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How did you get interested in ? SA: I come from a middle class family, and being brought up in small town in Rajasthan, did not have any exposure either to great works of design or . For about 12 years of my early life I studied in the cantonment area. This stretch of peaceful and better organized urban , built forms (mostly from the British era), discipline, THE ART OF vacant and good roads instilled in me a certain sense of good space vs. bad space, peaceful coexistence of built Design is what excites environments, and sense of architect Sanjay Agarwal, organization, which is SELLING Founder and Director of key to any good planning Bangalore-based FRDC. He tells and design. POOL about the importance of While studying architecture, creating relevant and inviting my interest in the more micro retail environments. aspects of design grew. I SPACES Addict : Emphasis on creating an experience had an opportunity to study 30 POOL #47 www.poolmagazine.in 31 cover story

etc. I went on to study Retail Design at Domus Academy, Milan.

Coming from a business background, I was probably the first in my family to venture into a job and that too in design! Design never came to my mind till I was actually admitted in the architecture stream. But once I : Spatial and furniture organization to create experience Color Plus was in academics, it grew within me. I could easily connect business and design and find synergies in both. Crusoe : Iconic approach to define what the stands for

I don’t consider myself a ‘creative I had spent more than a decade working What is it about creating environments person’ but I can with major corporates in India within that excites you? understand project the domain of Retail Design. In 2007, SA: I always start from the point of context, pain points, I decided to quit my corporate job. I view of what will make customers and can look into thought the time was just right for me visitors enter a store/environment. consumer and user to enter the real world on my own. With I like creating an environment which is insights, and the a vision to provide a multidisciplinary relevant, and invites and welcomes the business perspective design firm, I co-founded FRDC (Future customer. Design for business cannot of a brand, and Company) with a close be based on a 's own whims accordingly plan and friend and batch mate. and fancies. It needs to be based on Color Plus: Creating signature visualize what kind ‘customer’ and ‘brand’ requirements. of design will work. As my entire experience had been Creating an ‘experience’ within an at CEPT Ahmedabad and Thereafter I trust and empower my team in the Retail Design field, it was natural environment is the most crucial part I took it as a career, with the thought that to deliver it under my direction. for me to extend the same as services. of Retail. What excites me is to figure it would extend my architectural design FRDC’s core competencies are built out how customers will navigate the interest with more focus and micro When did you decide to start FRDC? around pure Retail Design with a retail space. Any retail space should design in interiors and furniture. As India SA: Starting my own venture was always focus on ‘Research’ driven design. have discoveries, inspirations and underwent liberalization in the early in my mind but I had never planned a FRDC’s vision was and is to keep engagements. Once these are in place, 1990s, my interest started moving more time line for the same. I wanted to learn providing ‘Relevant design and design people will buy. towards and consumer related all professional ways to handle the interventional services to Business spaces and hence during the final couple design business, whatever time it took. and Industries’. We also have plans The other important thing is to play with of years of study my projects tended to I was never interested in starting a one to expand our domain areas in other people’s senses. Environments devoid move towards shopping centers, shops, man show in design. industries at the relevant time. of these experiences tend to become like

32 POOL #47 www.poolmagazine.in 33 cover story warehouses and die quickly. The thing to I always strive and ask my team to remember is customers seek new ideas go with the highest specifications and inspirations. They are like tourists. and latest technology. If required we The more you show them and retain test products ourselves and ask for them in your space, the more likely they all relevant technical data and this will buy more. is what excites me. If the outcome is superb, one is always happy and if the Customers are like kids who are ready outcome has some shortfall, one always to splurge in a shopping environment works to improve and learn from these provided they are seduced and given implementations. such an opportunity. How many of us end up buying stuff we may not actually After all, we are like doctors for our need? Keeping this in mind, creating all clients and it’s our duty to prescribe and those touch points of ‘seduction’ is advise them the best we can! what excites me. Is innovation important in your kind Could you describe your most of work? treasured project and its workflow, SA: To me innovation is ‘always’ and not from conceptualization to only when required. It’s about final execution? finding new and cost effective ways SA: All projects have some treasures for us to design, alternative materials, and are close to us in one way or another. technology intervention and so on. It’s very difficult to point out one project. Innovation needn’t be tried, it should Projects like Crusoe, Arttdinox, Eka, Tashi, keep happening. By putting myself Biba, Ecko, Parx, Color Plus, among others in the place of a customer and user, I are closer to me. It’s not only about the understand pain points and then resolve final outcome, it’s also about the process them through design. we follow for each, irrespective of how big or small the project. It is always We strive to innovate, however small it challenging to understand the brand, may be. If I do not find any innovation products, and consumers and create in a project, I don’t mind re-designing for products display, and create it. I find innovation in material, usage, an Indian or international soul, and a energy efficient ways, lighting, display relevant environment. techniques, fixture design, sometimes even in AC ducts. The objective is "Customers are like In our country getting work done in a to challenge the ‘conventional’ way professional and technically correct of accepting design and create an tourists. The more you manner is quite a challenge. Even big experience through every element. I do brands and reputed suppliers in our not believe in ‘one strategy’ for all and industry are ready to take short cuts neither would I like to have my signature show them and retain and have no qualms about shoddy on each project. Each brand is different implementation of jobs assigned to and so should the design approach be. them in your space, the them. There is lack of competent technical knowhow amongst managers For example, most shoe stores in India more likely they will and implementing agencies. We are good have an unpleasant smell due to lack Parx : at writing names on ‘rice grains’ but very of fresh air, gases from PVC, resins, etc. buy more." Creating brand soul at poor on a technical job. When we designed a shoe store for a customer touch point

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reputed and big brand, we insisted on employees, associates, and clients to providing an ozonized fresh air system family and friends. As an employee, to cut down the foul smell and provide one is answerable only to his or her a neutral odor free environment which immediate boss, family and friends. would make customers and staff feel Starting one’s own business is always fresh throughout the day, thus increasing tough and the going gets tougher but this productivity. This is innovation for me. is when one learns to manage bad times and relish good times. We think not only about customers but also staff - they are the internal customers In my early days, I have seen days and they are like our dealers. If the staff without electricity and been part of is happy customers will be always happy. scenes when we would clap once the Features like better facilities, wash room, power came on. These and similar other resting space, lunch rooms, pantry, etc. experiences made me ready for such are key to any environment and how circumstances; I learnt to survive and innovatively one plans these is key for progress with what one has rather than good retail design. Start designing from what one wants! Ups and downs are part the back room....and the final outcome is and parcel of life and one just needs to always good. Start from the front and the enjoy both always. back room is pathetic. The most challenging aspects are to How do you choose your team? Eka : Store for ‘Home’ retain employees, good talent, and good SA: I choose people in order of clients; and most importantly, generate enthusiasm, passion and experience. cash flow. The biggest rewards are a Getting a multidisciplinary team ‘sense of achievement’ and ‘sense of is important for any project. My ownership’, which make one sleep better. expectation from the team is to understand context and come up with As an entrepreneur I feel good that I an out of the box idea and a new way of can take care of a large family, and that thinking. People need to demonstrate happiness is the best reward! Small personal enthusiasm and required skills rewards keep coming every now and and commitment for projects. Exposure then in terms of appreciation from is key, as are understanding the nuances clients, seeing the staff happy and of a project and handling a client. growing, and so on.

Another important aspect is to create What kind of design trends do you ‘design experts’ in different areas such as foresee in the Indian retail sector? electronics, IT, home, apparel, cosmetics, SA: India still believes in ‘More is Less’. packaging, toys, and so on. These experts Culturally we want more - options, then become our internal trainers. designs, choices - and it’s going to stay that way. Minimalist doesn’t sell here. What are the most rewarding We have been out of the influence of and challenging aspects of being imperialism for 60 odd years but still an entrepreneur? have a generation which loves to enjoy Eka : Creating meaningful displays SA: I learnt that as an entrepreneur – one that era. It may take another couple of adds on responsibilities and is decades before we become more answerable to everyone, from his plural and minimalist.

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Which Indian cities have the potential to emerge as design centers in the future? SA: Bangalore, Coimbatore, Ahmedabad, Chandigarh, and Pune have smart young people, better , set ups for furniture and technical manufacturing, international exposure, clients and industries ready to spend on design, emerging new business and start-ups, etc.

Of late the lines between digital and physical store experiences are becoming increasingly blurred. In your opinion, what effect will digital shopping have on the conventional retail experience? SA: Let’s go back into history and see how retail has evolved through time. If one acknowledges the barter system as a primary form of retail back in the early times, we see that not much has changed, except that today we either pay cash or credit card or use points to buy merchandise. 'Retail' was the last connect with the end consumer and still is. What has evolved is the 'environment' and 'channels' of retail - from standalone stores, specialty stores, and departmental stores to shop-in shops, kiosks, POP stores, and lately online.

Every time a new format or channel came up and threatened the existing ones, the existing channels/formats evolved themselves better. In the 1980s and early 1990s, malls and department stores in developed markets tried threatening Viveks Digital : Function follows form standalone stores, but soon they themselves were struggling for survival. We saw the same thing in India in the early 2000s and even now. Today we see that all channels are co-existing and have grown in their respective segments. Indian retail is going through flux and it’s difficult to see a particular trend. Everyone wants to look good and different and that is the trend currently. Small towns see Online retail is nothing but yet another channel brought about entirely due to more flashy design vs. big towns. The current phase of Indian retail is like the advancement in IT and mobile technology and the needs of people on the move. 1980/90s in USA. What happened in the Middle East, South East Asia and China in The seeds were sown in the 1990s and one can see the success of the same in the the 1990s is happening in India now. last few years. If one closely examines the pattern of online retail, one will see there are two distinct characters to it - digital cataloguing/showrooming, and Malls are being designed like boxes with entertainment. Our traditional markets and ordering. While the first one is about showcasing merchandise digitally in all its streets are disappearing and giving birth to ‘ugly urban boxes’. Internationally ‘mixed’ glory, the other is more interesting - where one can order remotely and receive development is the key. India already had mixed urban planning in the early 1900s. goods at home. Way back then Jaipur was an example of an ‘urban planned city’. Connaught Place was designed in the 1930s and is still one of the best shopping arcades of our country. Digital retail's success today largely depends upon how well one's logistics and delivery mechanism are built. Customers get drawn towards digital retail either Retail stores are an extension of the mall/arcade or place they belong. Currently due to discounts, convenience of ordering, ease of gifting, or unavailability of there is haphazard growth of shopping environments where retailers and brand merchandise in their towns. owners do not bother about the external environment and what that lends to the look of a street. It’s clear that digital retail has opened a parallel channel of and selling and how smartly one integrates it into physical retail will tell the success story of It is sad that most of our so called big towns have grown like slums and are the that brand or retail. So, in today's context, brands and retailers will have to embrace epitome of the most disastrous architecture and planning case studies in the world. this digital channel and acknowledge it as yet another channel for retail. Learning It is sad that Retail has imbibed the same philosophy of ‘mushrooming’. from the success parameters of digital retail, physical or brick mortar retail in Japan, Korea, USA, UK, and other European countries have already started adapting All this will need to get cleaned up for new generations. It’s time , retailers either digital formulas within their physical store, or using the digital platform to and brand owners demand a better organized retail environment. bring in customers to their physical stores and then fulfilling their needs.

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Tashi : Bringing lifestyle ‘alive’

How will this affect the design of What should young designers retail spaces? focus on? SA: Physical retailers have a dual SA: It’s sad but true that many designers advantage of getting into digital retail from colleges come with a ‘pseudo’ as they can make customers touch and view. They need to be realistic. Being feel merchandise while taking advantage a designer doesn’t mean one is above of digital ordering and delivery. Digital norms. Being non-conformist is not bad interfaces have started occupying but being out of context is a disaster. spaces and getting integrated within Understanding that it’s someone else’s stores. Tweet mirrors, touch screens, money on which one is designing NFC and RFID readers, voice and image and producing should bring in that recognizers, tap and touch payment ‘responsibility’ in oneself. devices, remote check outs, online feedback, online showrooming and Team work is very important for physical touch points are all in play successful design and implementation. within a modern store design. Smaller This is a key learning area for new stores, lesser inventory, zero back designers. Understand the customer and room, less number of staff and better client, understand problems and pain experience and environment are some of points, look at similar case studies, look the primary benefits for retailers and this into details, context, etc. will grow. [email protected]

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