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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Vol. 3, No. 99 Session 4

Meeting of the Parliament

Tuesday 22 April 2014

Note: (DT) signifies a decision taken at Decision Time.

The meeting opened at 2.00 pm.

1. Time for Reflection: Larry Blance, Kagyu Samye Dzong Glasgow, Tibetan Buddhist Meditation Centre for World Health and Peace led Time for Reflection.

2. Business Motion: Joe FitzPatrick, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S4M-09771—That the Parliament agrees to the following revisions to the programme of business—

(a) Tuesday 22 April 2014 delete

2.00 pm Time for Reflection followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions followed by Topical Questions (if selected) followed by Debate: ’s Voice in the EU followed by Business Motions followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.00 pm Decision Time

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followed by Members’ Business and insert

2.00 pm Time for Reflection followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions followed by Motion of Condolence: Margo MacDonald followed by Topical Questions (if selected) followed by Appointment of Scottish Ministers followed by Scottish Government Debate: Scotland’s Voice in the EU followed by Housing (Scotland) Bill: Standing Orders Rule 9.6.3A followed by Business Motions followed by Parliamentary Bureau Motions

5.30 pm Decision Time followed by Members’ Business

(b) Thursday 24 April 2014 after

2.30 pm Stage 1 Debate: Housing (Scotland) Bill insert followed by Financial Resolution: Housing (Scotland) Bill

The motion was agreed to.

3. Motion of Condolence, Margo MacDonald: The First Minister () moved S4M-09773—That the Parliament expresses its deep regret and sadness at the death of Margo MacDonald MSP; offers its sympathy and sincere condolences to her family and friends; recognises the high regard in which she was held by so many people from all parties and none; pays tribute to her significant contribution to public life as a teacher, a journalist, a campaigner and a parliamentarian, and acknowledges her distinguished record of dedicated service to her constituents in the Lothians and to the people of Scotland.

After debate, the motion was agreed to (DT)

4. Topical Questions: Questions were answered by the .

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5. Appointment of Scottish Ministers: The First Minister (Alex Salmond) moved S4M-09774—That the Parliament agrees that and be appointed as Scottish Ministers.

After debate, the motion was agreed to.

6. Scotland's Voice in the EU: The Cabinet Secretary for Culture and External Affairs () moved S4M-09748—That the Parliament recognises the importance of Scotland having a strong voice in the EU; believes that Scotland has built a positive foundation for engaging on EU matters and continues to play a progressive role internationally; recognises Scotland’s strong commitment to learning and sharing experience and expertise with other European countries, as highlighted in the Scotland in the European Union paper and the Nordic Baltic Policy Statement; further recognises that, as an independent member state in the EU, Scotland would be able to join the other 28 member states in participating directly in all EU legislation and policy negotiations, ensuring that it is well placed to foster coalitions of support across other member states that will further Scotland’s national interests; believes that Scotland will contribute constructively to the common European interest, drawing on the priorities for improvement and for reform set out in the paper, Scotland’s Priorities for EU Reform, and recognises that direct representation in the EU will protect Scotland’s economic and social interests against the uncertainties and adverse consequences of a UK in/out referendum raising the risk that the UK may exit the EU.

Patricia Ferguson moved amendment S4M-09748.1 to motion S4M-09748—

Leave out from first ―Scotland‖ to end and insert—

―a strong Scotland being part of a strong United Kingdom with continuing membership of the European Union; believes that the EU has demonstrated that nations must work together if they are to advance progressive policies in relation to workers’ rights and social policy that now apply in all member states as a result of decisions made by the EU; considers that the UK must continue to play its part in the decision making processes of the institution; believes that Scotland’s interests are best advanced through UK membership of the EU; notes concerns expressed by the European Commission President, José Manuel Barroso, who said that it would be "extremely difficult, if not impossible" for an independent Scotland to join the EU, and recognises that an independent Scotland would be unable to negotiate EU membership until March 2016 and that the subsequent transitional arrangements would not be in Scotland’s interests.‖

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 36, Against 66, Abstentions 13).

Annabel Goldie moved amendment S4M-09748.2 to motion S4M-09748—

Leave out from ―Scotland's strong commitment‖ to end and insert—

―that the most positive foundation for Scotland influencing the EU has been the role of the United Kingdom as a lead presence in the EU; notes that the UK Government has protected the UK's exemption from joining the euro, secured the UK rebate and exclusion from the Schengen border obligations, achieved a historic cut to the EU budget, protected thousands of UK jobs by opting out of a revised Lisbon Treaty, passed the European Union Act 2011 to ensure that there can be no further ceding of powers from the UK to Brussels without a referendum, and believes

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that Scotland has benefited significantly from these successes and achievements; further notes the universal acceptance of the need for reform of the EU to enable it to work more effectively and enhance the opportunities available to the UK and other EU member states; believes that this is an important and exciting opportunity for the EU; notes that the UK is leading the reform agenda and that the Prime Minister has pledged a UK referendum in 2017 on membership of the reformed EU if his party is returned to government; notes the desire of the Scottish Government for independence and, in such an event, believes that the uncertainty surrounding Scotland’s admission as a new member state of the EU, including timescale and as yet unknown conditions that other member states may attach to admission together with the removal of Scotland from the proven influence of the UK as an EU member, can only weaken Scotland’s position within the EU, both in general terms and at a critical time for securing necessary reform, and considers it paradoxical and unacceptable that, while the Scottish Government argues that it is right to give Scottish voters a referendum on independence from the UK, it will, in the event of independence, then deny Scottish voters a referendum on whatever terms and conditions are negotiated.‖

After debate, the amendment was disagreed to ((DT) by division: For 13, Against 102, Abstentions 0).

The motion was then agreed to ((DT) by division: For 65, Against 50, Abstentions 0).

7. Housing (Scotland) Bill – Standing Orders Rule 9.6.3A: The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) moved S4M-09750—That the Parliament agrees, for the purposes of its consideration of the Housing (Scotland) Bill, under Rule 9.6.3A of the Standing Orders, that the Parliament shall consider the general principles of the Bill on the fourth sitting day after publication of the lead committee report.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

8. Substitution on Committees: Joe FitzPatrick, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, moved S4M-09761—That the Parliament agrees that David Torrance be appointed to replace Christina McKelvie as the substitute on the Public Audit Committee.

The motion was agreed to (DT).

9. Decision Time: The Parliament took decisions on items 3, 6, 7 and 8 as noted above.

10. Fan Ownership of Football Clubs: The Parliament debated S4M-09518 in the name of Alison Johnstone—That the Parliament believes that football clubs are at the core of their communities across Scotland; supports ownership of football clubs by fans' trusts, which, it believes, can deliver more responsible and representative long-term stewardship for their clubs; welcomes the efforts of individual supporters' trusts, Scottish Fans and Supporters Direct Scotland to give fans a stronger say in how football clubs across Scotland are run; notes that four clubs playing in the SPFL are already owned by their fans and wishes the -based Foundation of Hearts well with its work to add its club to that list, and believes that widespread fan ownership of football clubs could be a sustainable and stable basis for the future of Scottish football.

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The meeting closed at 6.21 pm.

P E Grice Clerk of the Parliament 22 April 2014

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Appendix (Note: this Appendix does not form part of the Minutes)

Subordinate Legislation

Affirmative instruments

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 16 April 2014 and is subject to the affirmative procedure—

Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993 (Part-time Sheriff, Stipendiary Magistrate and Justice of the Peace) Order 2014 [draft] laid under paragraphs 2(2) and 2A(3)(a) of Schedule 2 to the European Communities Act 1972

Negative instruments

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 17 April 2014 and is subject to the negative procedure—

Additional Support for Learning (Sources of Information) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2014 (SSI 2014/103) laid under section 34(4) of the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004

Laid only instruments

The following instruments were laid before the Parliament on 4 April 2014 and are not subject to any parliamentary procedure—

Act of Sederunt (Fitness for Judicial Office Tribunal Rules) 2014 (SSI 2014/99) laid under section 30(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010.

National Health Service (Functions of the Common Services Agency) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2014 (SSI 2014/100) laid under section 30(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010.

Scottish Independence Referendum (Chief Counting Officer and Counting Officer Charges and Expenses) Order 2014 (SSI 2014/101) laid under section 30(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010.

The following instrument was laid before the Parliament on 11 April 2014 and is not subject to any parliamentary procedure—

Act of Sederunt (Fitness for Judicial Office Tribunal Rules) (No. 2) 2014 (SSI 2014/102)

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laid under section 30(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010

Other Documents

The following document was laid before the Parliament on 4 April 2014 and is not subject to Parliamentary procedure—

Scottish Court Service Corporate Plan 2014-2017 (SCS/2014/01) laid under section 66(4)(a) of the Judiciary and Courts (Scotland) Act 2008

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 8 April 2014 and are not subject to Parliamentary procedure—

2013 Annual Report of the Interception of Communications Commissioner: (SG/2014/25) laid under section 58(6A) of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000

Angus College Report and Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/36) –

Anniesland College Report and Financial Statements for the period 31st July 2013 (SG/2014/37) –

Banff and Buchan College of Further Education Accounts for the year ended 31st July 2013 (SG/2014/38) –

City of Glasgow College Annual Report and Financial Statements 2012-13: (SG/2014/39) –

Coatbridge College Annual Report of the Board of Management and Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/40) – laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 9 April 2014 and are not subject to Parliamentary procedure—

National Records of Scotland Statistical Bulletin 2011 Census: Key Results on Long-term Health Conditions, Central Heating and Deprivation - Release 2D (SG/2014/35) laid under section 4(1) of the Census Act 1920

Cumbernauld College Report and Financial Statements of the Board of Management year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/41) –

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Dumfries and Galloway College Financial Statements for the Year Ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/42) –

Dundee College Report and Financial Statements For the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/43) –

Forth Valley College of Further and Higher Education Report and Financial Statements For the Year Ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/44) –

John Wheatley College Annual Report & Financial Statements For the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/45) –

Kilmarnock College Board of Management Report and Financial Statements For the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/46) –

Moray College Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/47) –

Motherwell College Financial Statements year ending 31st July 2013 (SG/2014/48) –

The North Highland College Report & Financial Statements for the year ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/49) –

Perth College Financial Statements for the Year Ended 31 July 2013 (SG/2014/50) – laid under section 22(5) of the Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000

The following documents were laid before the Parliament on 15 April 2014 and are not subject to Parliamentary procedure—

Nuclear Decommissioning Authority Business Plan Financial year beginning April 2014 to financial year ending March 2017 (SG/2014/33) laid under Schedule 3 of the Energy Act 2004.

Ministerial Response – Reducing Emissions in Scotland – 2014 Progress Report (SG/2014/54) laid under section 9(3) of the (Scotland) Act 2009.

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