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Reds Vow Cuts If NAT1110 oes From New Dispatches \ PARIS, March 17 — Soviet gave what some reporters con- bassadorb Valerian Zorin strued as an Indication that today that any reduction would be willing to i the strength or "aggressive sign a French-Soviet nonag- aracter" of NATO would gression treaty. 1 obably be matched by a Asked what Soviet reaction ' ar reduction in the War- would be if President de w Pact alliance, NATO's Gaulle proposed such a treaty ommunist bloc counterpart. during his visit to Zorin, who spoke at a this Tune, Zorin replied: United ?rasa Intarnational luncheon of the Diplomatic "Our attitude toward Press Association here, also French-Soviet cooperation is VALERIAN ZORIN well known. We are in favor. .. hints of new moves of the broadest possible devel- opment of such cooperation. between all European states—. It goes without saying that we will support anything of this the same word the French are kind acceptable to ." using—should be sought as There have been many re- soon as possible. He said that ports recently that de Gaulle a coming together of the two is contemplating such a trea- Germanys was "necessary," ty, but official French sources but he did not indicate how are insisting that de Gaulle this should be accomplished. does not intend to sign any- Zorin described NATO as thing with the Russians. an "offensive alliance," and Zorin said de Gaulle's forth- said that the Warsaw Pact coming visit was of "great im- was a direct response to it, portance," but Washington defensive in character. Post Correspondent Waveriey Therefore, he said, it would Root reported that he was be "normal" for the Warsaw cautious about what specific Pact nations to react appropri- results the ately if NATO should reduce hopes or expects from the vis- Its "offensive capacity." But it. he pointed out that all the Zorin also said that to as- members of the Pact would sure the security of Europe, have to consult about any "normalization" of relations changes in its organization.

LBJ, Aides Take Long Look at NATO By Murrey Marder French_fouts in WWragaja- pressures created by de ranee; Deputy Defense Sec- WaahlnffLon peat Staff Writer clai11figgLaistrommawaaaggigtion President Johnson met with Gaulle's move was a sugges- tary Cyrus R. Vance and after pulling the lion dropped in Paris yester- hn M. Leddy, Assistant Sec- his foreign. policy advisers French units out of NATO. again last night to plan strate- day by Soviet Ambassador rotary Such an action could of State for European gy for short and long-range jar the Valerian Zorin. &fairs. postwar structure of Western Zorin Suggestion challenges to NATO that have Europe, whatever technicali- In the Senate, Sen. Henry been posed by French Pres- ties and legalities may be in- If de Gaulle could succeed M. Jackson (D-Wash.) said yes- sterday: "The Atlantic Al- ident de Gaulle. voked to justify it, these in getting his Allies to reduce Apart from de Gaulle's de- sources said. West the "offensive capaci " of liance will endure no matter mands to remove American al- what de Gaulle does," and ready has sounded its inten- NAT , r ges ed, it bases and NATO military sive opposition to any such would be "normal" for the "France will be welcomed headquarters from France, the step backward to occupation Warsaw Paot to follow suit. back as a full partner when over-all structure of the de- concepts. The Warsaw grouping is an the sober second thoughts of fense organization is under Germany Is the central un- Eastern European Communist- her people prevail." study. resolved issue in a European bloc version of NATO, estab- But a subcommittee headed by Jackson also said recently Although little has been settlement of World War II. lished to try to counteract the said about it publicly, within that "the conduct of Atlantic hough it is forgotten by military and psychological ef- affairs has gotten into a rut, the Administration Itself there ost Americans, one declared fect of NATO. with ritualistic" American has been a growing belief that jective of the Brussels President Johnson, whose reactions to longstanding NATO is overdue for moder- attention has been concentrat- problems and inadequate reat y, a predecessor of United States leadership. Sen- nization. TO before West Germany ed on the Vietnamese war, President Johnson, in addi- ate Majority Leader Mike tion to examining the problem fined the Alliance, was to usually gives only limited, Mansfield, on Monday, said vent any "renewal by Ger- pragmatic study to NATO's of de Gaulle's action, report- any of a policy of aggres- this may be the time "to reap- praise the NATO structure." edly Is being urged to consid- on." immediate problems. But he er structural reforms for tIt was for that reason that has given the subject unusual A broader call for "a clear NATO and, more importantly, German national army was sense of `strategic direction'" a redefinition of long-range a attention in the last two days. to revive the admittedly "stag- authorized only on condition He met at the White House American concepts for the At- that its control would be "in- nant" concept of Atlantic lantic Alliance. tegrated" into NATO. The again last night with advisers partnership, was sounded by J. Robert Schaetzel, Deputy Germany Is Key West Germans now, as well as with whom he conferred for all their allies, and perhaps an hour on Wednesday: Secre- Assistant Secretary of State The sharpest concern cen- France most of all, are anx- for European Affairs. In the rs on long-term effects on of State Dean Rusk; Un- current edition of Foreign Af- ious to keep West Germany's r Secretary of State George ermany. forces tied in that rela- fairs quarterly, Schaetzel cau- It should not be assumed, . Ball; former Secretary of oned that "The classical tionship, The concern is that tate Dean urces here said, that the may upset that delicate rela- , who is orld order of sovereign na- nite gy nal states leaves Germany in tionship. 4111J-A.T-0; Charles E. e_....412111444 tug.....4...... sep Another example of the hlen, Ambassador to