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HINDUSTAN TIMES, NEW DELHI TUESDAY, OCTOBER 01, 2019 hindustantimes 11

The YEARS ON question 1869 - 2019

GANDHI, AMBEDKAR PERSPECTIVE TRIDIP SUHRUD AND THE POONA PACT

n BR Ambedkar with EV Ramasamy (Periyar) in erstwhile Rangoon, 1954. WIKIMEDIA COMMONS

OP Jindal Global University. ’s reading of caste fundamentally differed from Ambedkar, explained Suparna Gooptu, director of the Gandhian Studies Centre, Kolkata. While Ambedkar preferred a rights-based approach, Gan- dhi’s approach was through faith and spiri- tuality. “Unlike Ambedkar, Gandhi felt that any exploitative relationship could be recti- fied only when the exploiter had a change of heart. So he worked with upper to change their mindset,” she added. Nishikant Kolge, a scholar at Delhi-based Centre for the Study of Developing Socie- ties, argued that Gandhi showed “remarka- ble irreverence” towards , and frequently ate with people from other castes. In his ashrams, the settlers came from all castes and religions. So, it is unclear why Gandhi took such a strong position against separate electorates, but a conver- n Gandhi with sation between him and , satyagrahis in recorded by and quoted by Kheda Gandhi and Gujarat: At home Eleanor Zelliot in Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar district, and The Untouchable Movement, offers a Gujarat, 1929 clue. Patel asked why Gandhi was going on ALAMY STOCK a fast, and the latter replied that separate PHOTO and in self-imposed exile electorates would leave Gandhi with no way to deal with “untouchables”. “They do not realise that the separate electorate will cre- HARD LOOK The state was his birthplace and the site of his experiments with ate division among Hindus so much that it will lead to bloodshed,” he told Patel. truth. But it must analyse its points of divergence from the Father of the Nation

THE IMPACT, TODAY For India’s 300 million scheduled caste peo- ple, many Ambedkarite scholars have argued, the Poona Pact fundamentally dis- torted the form of representation of . QUESTION The impact of MK Gandhi’s principled India reserves seats in Parliament and assemblies for SCs in proportion to their resistance to BR Ambedkar’s political demand for separate population. For example, in the Lok Sabha, 84 of the 543 seats are reserved for members electorates for the so-called depressed classes lives on of SC communities. But Dalits are not con- centrated in any specific area, so in a major- ity of these seats, they form a minority of the electorate. An HT analysis of numbers by the Trivedi Centre for Political Data showed that out of the 84, Dalits make up a third of the electorate in only 13. In just one constitu- n Gandhi with ency — Jalpaiguri in West Bengal — does Kasturba and this figure cross 50%. This means that while Sardar Dhrubo Jyoti The Poona Pact was signed at 5pm on Sep- the MP is SC, the majority of the electorate Vallabhbhai n [email protected] tember 24 by 23 people. Madan Mohan is not and their influence is decisive. Patel at a prayer Malaviya signed it on behalf of Hindus and “In a caste-ridden society, this means that meeting, t is September 19, 1932, and morning Gandhi; Ambedkar on behalf of depressed the Dalit MP has to compromise and keep Gujarat, 1940s. has just dawned on Bombay (now classes. Instead of the 80 seats given by the the upper castes happy, and cannot work DINODIA PHOTOS / known as Mumbai), but dignitaries British, the depressed classes got 148 seats. genuinely for the marginalised castes. Such ALAMY STOCK PHOTO are already crowding the front porch At the end of the talks, Gandhi’s trusted a system robs Dalits of genuine leadership of the Indian Merchants Chamber emissary, C Rajagopalachari, exchanged his and the community suffers because leaders At 6.30 am, on March 12, 1930 MK “untouchable” family of Dudabhai, Danibehn I Gandhi, accompanied by co-march- and their daughter Lakshmi, who joined the Hall. They have an urgent mission: to fountain pen with Ambedkar. are dependent on their party’s vote bank to save MK Gandhi’s life, and they have less get elected; they cannot be independent,” A ers, left the for ashram community. The internal rumblings than 24 hours to do so. For weeks, tensions A FUNDAMENTAL CLASH said Bhagyesha Kurane, a law student at Dandi, a coastal village in Gujarat. in the ashram did not stop, nor did the opposi- have been rising between Gandhi, lodged in The Poona Pact represented a clash of two University. He did not ever return to live in the ashram tion from the citizens from Ahmedabad. a prison in what was then Poona, on sedition ideas: of caste and citizenship. Ambedkar’s that he had created and nurtured since 1917. It In 1917, the ashram shifted further away charges, and Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar, reading of caste, according to historian Pra- AMBEDKAR’S POINT is evident that the self-imposed exile applied from the city to the banks of river Sabarmati. who would go on to steer India’s Constitu- bodhan Pol, pivoted on seeing the Dalit Ambedkar’s views on political representa- not only to the ashram but also increasingly to A plague in Kocharb was the immediate rea- tion, over the latter’s demand of separate question as a political issue, and not only a tion of the depressed classes began with his the city of Ahmedabad and Gujarat itself. son for the hasty move to a barren piece of electorates for India’s “depressed classes” social one, as Gandhi did. “The Gandhi -Am- submission before the Southborough Com- In the remaining 18 years of his life, Gandhi land. Gandhi spoke of the proximity of the site or “untouchables”, who are called Sched- bedkar conflict was over how to understand mittee in 1919, when he was just 28. His belief was to spend some 301 days in Gujarat. His last to the prison and ashram of the ancient sage uled Castes (SC) today. caste. Ambedkar insisted, for the first time in universal adult franchise was rooted in visit to Ahmedabad was on November 2, 1936. Dadhichi. What he chose not to disclose was Separate electorates meant that members in India’s modern history, that caste was a the depressed classes getting cheated of His exile from Ahmedabad is reminiscent of a that the site was situated in close proximity to from these communities would elect a repre- political question, and couldn’t be their voting rights by British India’s restric- tap (penance). a smashan, a crematorium. Gandhi could not sentative to legislative assemblies, and addressed by social reforms only,” he said. tions of land and wealth ownership on the If we understand this obvious turning away but have grasped what it meant for a Hindu to caste Hindus would not be eligible to vote in In his writing and speeches, Ambedkar electorate. Pol noted that the Gandhi-Am- from Gujarat on the part of Gandhi, we might live in the proximity of a smashan. that election. After protracted negotiations insisted that a political democracy was bedkar relationship was not premised on be able to capture something of the relation- It was not just a constant reminder of mor- at the second Round Table Conference, the meaningless if the so-called depressed antagonism and became so in the 1940s and ship that Gujarat has shared with him. The tality and the precariousness of human exis- British government had formalised sepa- classes were not equal participants in it. 50s. “If you devoted yourself entirely to the day he left the ashram, an unprecedented tence, but it was also a reminder of what it rate electorates on August 15, 1932. Almost “Most importantly for Ambedkar, the welfare of the depressed classes, then you crowd gathered to bid him and the marchers meant to live as an outcaste, outside the pale immediately, Gandhi publicly opposed this. ability of the depressed classes to elect their would become our hero,” Ambedkar told a farewell. Gandhi wrote; “Thousands of of city and civitas. It also signifies the liminal “I have to resist your decision with my own representatives was a way to achieve Gandhi during the Poona Pact negotiations. Ahmedabad citizens, both men and women, position that Gandhi and his followers had life,” he wrote to the then British Prime Min- full potential of democracy. For this, voting But this would not last. In a 1955 inter- kept vigil on the night of the 11th. Thousands come to occupy in the caste hierarchy of ister Ramsay Mcdonald, on August 18. in an electorate free from the influence of view to BBC, Ambedkar attacked Congress flocked to the Ashram… I can never forget the Ahmedabad. Gandhi and his companions, “What I am against is their statutory separa- caste Hindus was required, and Gandhi did and Gandhi on SC representation. “As a pol- scene. For me, this was the form in which even during the Dandi march, were often tion even in a limited form, from the Hindu not understand this,” said Sumeet Mhaskar, itician, he [Gandhi] was never a Mahatma. God’s blessings descended on me.” But, ever regarded as outcastes. fold…” he reiterated on September 9, but the an associate professor of political science at I refuse to call him Mahatma,”he said. suspicious of adoring crowds, Gandhi was Notwithstanding its liminality, the ashram British refused to renege on their decision. quick to realise that perhaps this was the soon became the centre of the city’s political On September 20, Gandhi began his fast n A photo by extent of self-sacrifice for many. “But I am not economy with Gandhi’s arbitration and sub- unto death. Raja Sekhar Vundru notes in his Margaret a man to be easily taken in by appearances... sequent fast in the dispute involving the mill book, Ambedkar, Gandhi and Patel: The Bourke-White Many had come out just because others had owners and mill hands of Ahmedabad. This Making of India’s Electoral System, Gan- of BR done so. For many others, this coming out for mode of arbitration was to become the bed- dhi’s emissaries had communicated that he Ambedkar on the festival was the beginning and the end of rock for industrialisation of Gujarat. It also was not only opposed to separate elector- his veranda, their self-sacrifice.” contributed to the deep unease with the left ates, but was also not convinced of reserved 1946. The capacity for self-sacrifice is what Gan- politics in the political culture of Gujarat. seats. “I shall not deter from my pious duty THE LIFE dhi wanted from us. This was not, in each The Hindu-Muslim unity was a striving and betray the just and legitimate trust of PICTURE COLLECTION instance, bodily sacrifice or enduring long that was to remain incomplete in Gandhi’s the people even if I am hanged,” Ambedkar VIA GETTY IMAGES periods of incarceration. In some ways it was life. The one aspect where contemporary Guj- told the Congress, reiterating that his prob- more fundamental. He wanted us — a society arat has moved furthest away from him is on lem with joint electorates was that dominated by merchant-capitalists — to be the communal question. The regularity with depressed classes would be robbed of inde- free from avarice. Not just pure greed but even which we have turned against ourselves in a pendent leadership in a constituency the need to be possessive. The ashramic ideals macabre orgy of violence and pragmatically numerically dominated by caste Hindus. of aparigraha (non-possession) and asteya and remorselessly moved ahead fundamen- With time running out, leaders proposed (non-stealing) stood in contrast to the ethos of tally violates all that Gandhi strove for. a two-tier system: a primary election where mercantile culture. The fact that Ahmedabad One aspect of Gujarat that perturbed Gan- only Dalits would vote and a secondary elec- bears testimony to the of a few dhi — despite or perhaps because of his prox- tion where both caste Hindus and Dalits wealthy who selflessly helped create some of imity to it — was the feudal culture. would vote. On the morning of September the finest institutions of higher learning was home for Gandhi. His only fast against a 22, Ambedkar travelled to Poona. “I want should not lead to a mistaken belief that Guja- princely state for its breach of trust was political power for my community. That is rati culture is any less suspicious of Gandhi’s against the State of Rajkot that his father had indispensible for our survival,” he told Gan- attitude to money and inheritance. served as a Diwan. Before leaving Rajkot in dhi, Mahadev Desai, Gandhi’s secretary, The second form of unease with Gandhi June 1939, Gandhi said: “Rajkot seemed to wrote in his notes. came from his conviction that untouchability have robbed me of my youth. I never knew The pressure on the Maharashtrian was was a sin. About 25 men and women became that I was old. Now I am weighed down by the mounting; he had received several death the first inhabitants of the ashram knowledge of decrepitude. I never knew what threats already. “Almost all major newspa- at Kochrab. Gandhi and his ashram were soon it was to lose hope. But it seems to have been pers were backing Gandhi and opposing “put on the anvil”, as he put it, with the first cremated in Rajkot. My has been put Ambedkar. His blood pressure, whether he to a test such as it has never been subjected had water, were front page news every day,” before.” What he said of Rajkot was said to us all, said scholar and cartoonist, Syamsundar He wanted us — a society dominated by merchant-capi- Gujaratis then and now. Vunnamati. Ambedkar finally relented talists — to be free from avarice. The ashramic ideals of after his friend and Tamil leader, MC Rajah, ‘aparigraha’ (non-possession) and ‘asteya’ (non-steal- Tridip Suhrud has recently published a critical edition of pointed out that Dalits would battle insur- ing) stood in contrast to the ethos of mercantile culture. mountable prejudice if they were seen as not M K Gandhi’s Autobiography having compromised for Gandhi’s life. and ‘The Diary of Manu Gandhi 1943-1944’