THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 09 MARCH 2021

MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. ( South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (-) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. () - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (-) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY ( Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) - Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. - Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 9TH MARCH, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 20-27

APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 0800 - Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development (Resumed Debate)...... 1-19, 28-33

Organisation 0500 - Ministry of Agricultural Development and Food Security...... 34-61

ATTACHMENT FOR ORGANISATION 0500 - MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY...... 62-63 Tuesday 9th March, 2021 ORGANISATION 0800 - MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (Resumed Debate) Committee of Supply

Tuesday 9th March, 2021 of providing food relief packages to affected families.

THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. A total of 429 255 households were provided with food baskets countrywide at a cost of Four Hundred and (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) Thirty-One Million and Ninety-Seven Thousand (P431 P R A Y E R S 097, 000.00). These were augmented by donations from the private sector, diplomatic missions, development * * * * partners and individuals. I wish to extend my sincere appreciation and thanks to all these donors as well as MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Honourable the frontline workers, district and village leadership, Members, good morning. Can we start our business of including Dikgosi, councillors, Village Development today with Committee of Supply? I hope Honourable Minister Molale is connected. I have not seen him on Committees (VDCs), Village Extension Committees the screen. (VETs), other village committees and stakeholders who were involved in this noble exercise. MR MOLALE: I am connected Mr Speaker. Mr Chairperson, some of the key lessons from this MR SPEAKER: Thank you. initiative include;

ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE (a) Lack of proper database for suppliers and their capacity to supply required food items timeously. (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, (b) Lack of proper management information system 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) that could assist in monitoring the initiative and identifying persons and households most likely to ORGANISATION 0800 - MINISTRY OF be affected. LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (c) Lack of district profiling is evident. It is necessary to guide future interventions in terms of where and (Resumed Debate) what resources can be mobilized within shortest MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): As time in various localities. it was indicated yesterday, this Head is allocated 2 (d) A phenomenon of overpricing of commodities hours 25 minutes, and I shall call upon the Honourable comprising the food baskets especially the Minister to reply to the debates at 1255hours today, and the question will be put at 1510hours today. When the agricultural produce, where we found that procedings were interrupted by power failure yesterday, middlemen were getting commodities from farmers I had called upon the Honourable Minsiter to present his at pittance prices and selling to Government at budget, and he is left with 20 minutes. exorbitant prices. To remedy this, councils have been advised to procure directly from producers MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND for value creation to farmers and reduce the cost RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Ke a to Government. leboga Mr Chairperson, and let me also apologise for yesterday’s mishap. Ke kopa gore o reye Honourable Mr Chairperson, to address these challenges, my Motsamai le Honourable Nkawana gore next time they ministry is putting together measures aimed at obviating try it, e tlaabo e nna thoromo ya lefatshe. them by: Mr Chairperson, ke ne ke setse ke le mo Paragraph 3 (a) Developing comprehensive profiles of each fa go kgaoga, where I was saying that vulnerable district/town, to guide future interventions, members of society were overly exposed to the negative particularly in terms of guiding where, how and impact of COVID-19 during lockdowns. My ministry responded swiftly and effectively to cushion these what resources can be mobilised with minimum citizens by spearheading a comprehensive assessment effort in any given locality in the event of any of households to determine those in need with the aim incident or disasters;

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(b) Developing a national response framework Mr Chairperson, my ministry pronounced last year that takes into account the unique aspects to an that Ipelegeng program had been transformed to make emergency feeding programme and develop it more productive and sustainable. The re-engineered practical guidance and materials for project program focuses on maintenance of public facilities implementation in a manner consistent with good especially schools, maintenance of cluster fences, governance and other best practices. debushing of international boundaries, construction of Kgotla shelters and many more development projects at Mr Chairperson, recent developments including the local level. COVID-19 and fast changes in Botswana’s demographics and level of economic development has necessitated that The programme also aims to empower beneficiaries Botswana should embark on a Social Protection Reform through capacity building, skills development Programme, as this is also in line with the Botswana for sustainable livelihoods and compliment other Democratic Party (BDP) Manifesto. This will usher in a programmes aimed at employment creation and poverty new paradigm that goes beyond poverty reduction; that alleviation. I must place emphasis on the Ipelegeng needs, instead to build resilience, to redistribute wealth, Programme being complimented by the Community and to invest in all Batswana so that they can contribute Constituency Programme on maintenance of public to and share in the benefits of growth, and to build a new infrastructure. social compact between the state and its citizens. Mr Chairperson, in pursuit of supporting sustainable My ministry with the assistance of the United Nations livelihoods, job creation and building resilient Development Programme (UNDP) thus developed a communities, the Rural Development Council through National Social Protection Recovery Plan (NSPRP) its Natural Resources Technical Committee (NRTC) is which emphasises on the need for Botswana to consolidate its social assistance system that reflects the currently working on the development of a blue print vulnerabilities of individuals throughout their lives- to guide utilisation of natural resources with notable course. economic value. The emphasis will mainly be on remote and rural communities, as these have remained poor This is also consistent with the aspirations of the new despite their natural resource endowments within their National Social Protection Framework (NSPF) which environment. was approved by Cabinet in August last year. The Framework seeks to position the social protection We are going to roll out research prototypes undertaken system so that it can effectively and efficiently respond by institutions such as Botswana Institute for Technology to the varied risks and vulnerabilities faced by Batswana Research and Innovation (BITRI) and National Food of different age groups. Technology Research Centre (NFTRC) on veld products and other natural resources, most of which are found in One of the most critical components of this framework is the development of a Single Social Registry. The these rural and remote areas. These prototypes will be development of this registry has started. We are currently rolled out into tangible high value goods and services, populating the system with data of Social Protection some with the possibility of being exported. Programmes under my ministry, following which data from other ministries will be captured. The exercise is The intention is to wean out rural and remote expected to be completed by March 2022. communities from poverty and improve their livelihoods. I have already met and we will continue to meet with Both the Social Protection Framework and the Recovery Honourable Gare and Honourable Letsholathebe to Plan propose the consolidation of the existing suite of chart the way forward on this very viable approach. 29 social welfare programmes across Government to Maybe Mr Chairperson, the re-introduction of the properly reflect the five individual life-course stages; Rural Industries Programme or its equivalent would which are; expectant mothers and infants, school age, youth, working age and old age. Further, it is critical further assist towards the refinement of this approach. to underpin these programmes with robust systems that I am however aware Mr Chairperson, that the Minister are common across all programmes, and all of them will of Investment, Trade and Industry is also working on be Omang based, so as to avoid duplication and double consolidating Government development/assistance dipping. programmes.

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Mr Chairperson, I am skipping some of the paragraphs (5) Provide effective and efficient local services tsa because I sent this speech last week to all members, so municipal infrastructure I believe they have read it, I am just reading a few for emphasis. (6) To provide inclusive, shock responsive and adaptive social protection services. Mr Chairperson, with regard to infrastructure, my BUDGET PROPOSALS FOR 2021/2022 ministry is concerned about the aging of infrastructure in major villages, towns and cities throughout the country, A total of Eight Billion, Five Hundred and Ninety particularly internal roads, storm water drainage, street Million, One Hundred and Sixty-Seven Thousand and lighting, as well as buildings. Most of this infrastructure Sixty-Eight Pula (P8 590 167, 068) is proposed for the was constructed more than 20 years ago and due to the Recurrent and Development Budgets for my ministry. economic downturn of 2008, we could not cope with The sum of Seven Billion, One Hundred and Thirty- the requisite cyclic maintenance. It should be noted that Seven Thousand, Seven Hundred and Seventy Pula (P7 the provision of infrastructure in itself has potential to 137 157, 770) is for the Recurrent Budget whilst One increase productivity in key sectors that drive economic Billion, Four Hundred and Fifty-Three Million, Nine recovery and transformation, thereby contributing to Thousand Two Hundred and Ninety-Eight Pula (P1 453 employment creation. 009, 298) is for the Development Budget.

It is therefore my intention Mr Chairperson, to engage RECURRENT BUDGET key stakeholders in both the public and private sector Under the recurrent Mr Chairperson, the Department of with proposals to embark on the renewal of this Local Government, Finance and Procurement Services infrastructure going forward. For this proposal however gets the largest share of Four Billion, Seven Hundred Mr Chairperson to be complete, the programme would and Fifty-Five Million, One Hundred and Twenty-Two have to include user fees for cost recovery measures to Thousand, Seven Hundred and Ninety Pula (P4 755 ensure its sustainability. 122, 790) or 66.63 per cent of the ministerial budget. Mr Chairperson, I have also embarked on revamping This amount includes Three Billion, Eight Hundred my ministry’s strategic plan. The strategy is inspired by and Thirteen Million, Four Hundred and Sixty Million, Vision 2036 that will ensure a free, fair and prosperous Eight Hundred and Seventy Pula (P3 813 460,870) for Botswana guided by the principle of “Leaving No One the Local Authorities’ Revenue Support Grant and Eight Hundred and Sixty-Four Million, Fifty-Five Thousand, Behind.” Mr Chairperson, the plan will put my ministry Two Hundred and Sixty Pula (P864 055,260) for food firmly on the track towards achieving the transformation supplies. The remainder of Seventy-Seven Million, Six plan and Vision 2036. It has six inter-related strategic Hundred and Six Thousand, Six Hundred and Sixty Pula objectives that constitute its fundamental pillars. (P77 606, 660) will be shared amongst other items.

(1) This ministry has to be re-organised to be fit for I must hasten to raise concern on the Local Authorities purpose to drive rural development, including Revenue Support Grant over its use. Ordinarily, this installing organisational performance and grant should be used for the welfare and development monitoring and evaluation. of citizens. The reality is that at the moment, 61 per (2) The ministry has to immediately start phase 1 of cent is used to pay salaries and other expenses which do the decentralisation process. not directly benefit citizens. That is the reason why the Minister of Finance and Economic Development was (3) The ministry intends to develop and implement talking about right sizing of the public service so that a Local Government Digital Transformation resources go directly to benefit citizens. Strategy and Plan for efficient service delivery at the local level. The next department that gets the second largest share of One Billion, Five Hundred and Twenty-One (4) The ministry will play a catalytic role in building Million, Eight Hundred and Seventy-Two Thousand, resilient and sustainable local economies, Six Hundred and Thirty Pula (P1 521 872, 630) or 21 especially through the local economic development per cent of the ministry’s budget is the Department of strategy. Social Protection. These funds will cater for Old Age

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Pension at Eight Hundred and Fifty-Seven Million, Two Local Government Infrastructure Services which covers Hundred and Fourteen Thousand, Five Hundred and Gabane and Tutume internal roads; donor funded Ten Pula (P857 214, 510), Orphan Care Programme at Legolo and Mmopane-Block 8 internal roads; and the Two Hundred and Thirty Million, Eight Hundred and Mogoditshane and Tlokweng internal roads proposed Ninety-Three Thousand, Six Hundred and Twenty Pula under the Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (P230 893, 620); Destitute Cash Allowance at One (ERTP). Hundred and Seventy-Four Million, Seven Hundred and Four Thousand, Four Hundred Pula (P174 704, 400). Five Hundred and Fifty-Four Million Pula (P554, The remainder of Two Hundred and Fifty-Nine Million, 000, 000.00) Mr Chairperson will be used on the Sixty Thousand and One Hundred Pula (P259 060, 100) Development of Primary Education Services that covers will be shared amongst other items. maintenance and provision of new facilities. As part of the Decentralisation Policy process, Local Authorities The third largest share of my ministry’s budget is must take full responsibility for construction of their proposed for the Department of Tribal Administration. projects whilst the ministry takes responsibility for Six Hundred and Sixty-Two Million, Six Hundred and policy development and quality control. Only then Ninety-Two Thousand, Seven Hundred and Forty Pula will we be able to effectively deal with incidents like (P662 692, 740) which translates to 9.28 per cent of the the Mogoditshane toilets construction. Incidentally, the ministry’s budget goes to Tribal Administration. investigation report has been handed over to me. I am studying it with a view to release it once the due process Out of this amount, the sum of Five Hundred and Eighty- has been followed internally. Six Million, Two Hundred and Thirty-Six Thousand, Nine Hundred and Ninety Pula (P586,236,990.00) will The second largest share of Five Hundred and Twenty- be used for personnel emoluments and the remainder Eight Million, Six Hundred and Nine Thousand, Two of Seventy-Six Million and Four Hundred and Fifty- Hundred and Ninety-Eight Pula (P528,609,298.00), Five Thousand, Seven Hundred and Fifty Pula goes to the Department of Local Governance and (P76,455,750.00) will be shared amongst others. Development Planning to implement the Ipelegeng Programme. The remaining balance of my ministry’s proposed Recurrent Budget of One Hundred and Ninety-Seven Sixty-Three Million, Two Hundred Thousand Pula Million, Four Hundred and Sixty-Nine Thousand, Six (P63, 200, 000.00) goes to the Department of Social Hundred and Ten Pula (P197, 469,610), will be shared Protection to continue implementation of Destitute amongst the five departments of Corporate Services, Housing project, and the Single Social Registry project. Community Development, Local Governance and Tribal Administration is allocated Twenty-Three Development Planning, Rural Development and Local Million Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P23, 500,000.00) Government Technical Services. for WIFI connection to 350 kgotla offices across the DEVELOPMENT BUDGET country as well as construction of 31 Customary Courts across the country. Mr Chairperson, under the Development Budget, I Community Development Mr Chairperson is allocated propose that a total of One Billion, Four Hundred and Thirty-Seven Million Pula (P37, 000, 000.00) to be Fifty-Three Million, Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and used on Remote Area Development (RADP) Destitute Ninety-Eight Pula (P1,453,009,298.00) be approved for Housing and Small Community Projects which take Development Programmes and projects an increase of Thirty Million Pula (P30, 000, 000.00) and Seven 9.91 per cent on the 2020/2021 year’s budget. Million Pula (P7, 000, 000.00) respectively.

The proposed Development Budget will be shared At headquarters the ministry is proposing Eleven as follows; (i) The largest share of Seven hundred Million, Seven Hundred Thousand Pula (P11, 700, and Eighty-Nine Million Pula (P789, 000,000.00) or 000.00) for construction of Gaborone Transfer Station. 54.3 per cent of the Development Budget goes to the Department of Local Government Technical Services. In conclusion Mr Chairperson, I move that the 2021/2022 Out of these amount, a total of Two Hundred and Thirty- Recurrent Budget in the sum of Seven Billion, One Five Million Pula (P235, 000,000.00) will be used on Hundred and Thirty-Seven Million, One Hundred and

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Fifty-Seven Thousand, Seven Hundred and Seventy wa Semotswane, pego e le e neele Kgosi Radipitse le Pula (P7,137,157,770.00) be approved and stand part ditlhogo tsa motse, ba tle ba bolelele motse ka tshwetso of the Schedule of the appropriation (2021/2022) Bill ya pego e. A tewa ke nna ka sebele. Go tla go tsena 2021 for Organisation 0800 and that the Development letsatsi leno Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Budget in the sum of One Billion, Four Hundred and Palamente dikgobe di letse ka metsi. Kana ka Setswana Fifty-Three Million, Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and ra re, “thota e e senang khudutlou bo lobeto ba ipha Ninety-Eight Pula (P1,453,009,298.00) be approved naga.” “Tiyatiya e letisa thojana,” go suwa go jewa. and stand part of those Estimates. I thank you Mr Makgoa ba re justice delayed is justice denied. Chairperson. Gompieno ke batla go kopa, e bile ke kopa Motlotlegi MR MOATLHODI (TONOTA): Ke a go leboga Leader of the House ke tsena ka setilo sa tlotla sa ga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Motlotlegi Rraetsho Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Good morning sir. Ke rata go simolola fela Motlotlegi Palamente gore, re letleletse batho ba le 50 gore ba tsene Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ke itebaganye kereke. A batho ba ba 50 jaanong ba letlelelwe ba tsene le ntlha e despite to the fact that Motlotlegi Rraetsho Kgotla. Batho ba ba 50 bao ba tle ba kgone go ya go Tona wa Local Government and Rural Development ga tsaya pego e kwa motseng wa Semotswane. Fa go diega a e bua, dikonteraka tsa bo Safety and Health Officer jaaka go diega jaana Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo (SHE) le maScorpion di a fela ka 31 tsa March. tsa Palamente ka kgang ya Semotswane, which I am Moselewapula o epiwa go sale gale. Ke batla go ikuela very bitter about, I shall have no other option but to mo go Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona ke feta ka setilo se appeal to His Honour the President go pega Rre Molale se tona sa ga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa serisephate. Ke a e feta ka nako e khutshwanyane. Palamente, ke ikuela mo go wena, please go and renew these contracts for another 12 months. Ke a itse gore o Ke tshwenngwa ke magosi a lefatshe le. Motlotlegi tla nthaya o re ga gona madi, nnyaa, mma ke go thuse Modulasetilo, go na le Magosi a re reng ke a go tsalwa ka tsela, tsamaya o ye go ikopanya le Motlotlegi Tona le a Tetlanyo a a leng mantsi thata mo lefatsheng le. Magosi a Tetlanyo ga a hirwa. Rre Molale, tsamaya wa Madi le Ditlhabololo. Maloba o ne a re raya a re o ye go hira Magosi a Tetlanyo, o ba neele botshelo, go na le posts tse a sa di batleng, wa go go kopa gore ba bereke until ba nna 80 years jaaka Dikgosi tse di a di busetse kwa morago. Tsamaya o ye go kopana tsetsweng. Magosi a rona a Tetlanyo a ntse thora ka nae, o sekaseke gore o ka nopola di le kae tse e tlaa gore o na le go emisa dikonteraka tsa bone willy-nilly. reng fa re bala madi a tsone a nna an equivalent ya go Selo se ke se utlwileng… seane sa Setswana sa re, ‘e se dira madi a bana ba for 12 months. This can be able to re go buela dikgageng, magakabe a le lebile.’ sustain dikonteraka tse for 12 months. After 12 months then I pray Mr Chairperson this item should be made Fa ke ntse ke baya tsebe mo phefong, gatwe dikonteraka budgetable as part of the ministry’s expenses. Ke a tsa Magosi go a ne go potologwa gotwe yo ke wa e feta. I have made my point on that issue, e bile ke opposition, terminate konteraka ya gagwe. Fa e le gore kopa bakaulengwe ba me Batlotlegi Mapalamente to golo mo e ka nna nnete, ke tlaa le goletsa molelo o le support me wholeheartedly on this issue ya boSHE le tlaa palelwang ke go o ora at the end of the day ka gore maScorpion. batho ba opposition ke batho ba lefatshe le. E bile fa ba ntshiwa jalo, le goletsa Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tautona Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke molelo ka gore e tlaa re kamoso a re o ya kwa motseng kile ka ikuela mo go Motlotlegi Tona Molale nna ka oo, Kgotla yotlhe e bo e emelela ba re motho yo o namana ka kgwedi ya December, ke bua nae ka motse ntshitse Kgosi ya rona mo tirong. Bangwe ba Dikgosi wa Semotswane kwa kgaolong ya me, gore for six years ba kile ba bereka Motlotlegi Modulasetilo, mme ba bona go sena Kgosi. Lephata la gagwe Motlotlegi Rraetsho pension e e kgethisiwang (taxed); gompieno ba bona Molale le kile la ntsha Magosi a le mabedi months ago allowance e e kgethisiwang. Bagaetsho, ke kopa gore ba ya go lebelela kgang e ba bo ba e fetsa, ba bo ba ba ba neng ba bereka ba se ka ba tlhola ba kgethisiwa, ntsha tshwetso. Ke boleletse Motlotlegi Tona Molale ka ba kgethisitswe ka nako ya fa ba bereka. sebele, nna! ke sa mo kwalele lekwalo, ke sa mo leletse, ka mo raya ka re, kana ke boleletswe gore pego e tlile ka Ke ya kwa motseng wa Mandunyane. E ne ya re ka 9th Magosi ka motse wa Semotswane. Ya kwa go rraetsho Parliament, ke ne ka kopela motse wa Mandunyane Kgosi Radipitse wa Tonota, a bitse ditlhogo tsa motse koloi kwa ministry wa gago e na le mapodise a le

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mararo. Fa ke bua le wena jaana, koloi eo e tsubutswe! La bofelo ka tsweetswee, tlhoafala Rraetsho Molale o Rraetsho Kgosi ya Mandunyane, bo monnawe le dire gore sub-councils di nne full councils. Motlotlegi setšhaba sa Mandunyane ga ba a rerisiwa. Tsamaya o Modulasetilo, may God bless you. ye go busa koloi eo . Golo mo ke go tlhokela tšhaba ya Mandunyane tlotlo gore e re Goromente a ba file koloi MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): e bo e tsubulwa fela. We need that koloi as early as Thank you Mr Chairperson. Le nna rraetsho mma ke yesterday. Ke a feta. leboge Tona Molale ka pego e a e beileng fa pele ga rona ya madi, mme ka nako ga e yo, ke tlaa leka go taboga. Headman of Record o dikile a tlhokafetse kwa Kgosing Rraetsho, ke bue ka service centre ya kwa gore kwa Kgotleng e tona ya Tonota, but never replaced. Re Goromente o sale a e re diretse. E tshwanetse ya thusa tsenye mo budget, Kgosi Radipitse a kgone go itlhophela metse ya bo Lephephe, Sojwe, , Shadishadi, motho yo o ka emisitsang maemo a ga Kgosi Hetanang Loologane, le Shonono. Rraetsho, ga gona tiro mo yo o tlhokafetseng. May his soul rest in peace. Le service centre e. Ga e bereke jaaka re ne re solofeditswe gone Kgosi Radipitse a letlelelwe gore a itlhophele yo gore re tlaa bona ditlamelo ka bontsi koo. Ga gona a batlang a tsena mo maemong ao. Ke a feta. Motse ditlamelo tse batsadi ba di bonang koo, mme ba a lela wa Shashe Mooke; leobo la Kgotla ya Shashe Mooke le gore Molepolole o kgakala. Go tswa Lephephe o ya go sale le tserwe ke phefo 16 months ago, mme ga ke utlwe šhafatsa (renew) Omang le go duelela licence go turu. gore babereki ba khansele le Tribal ba reng mme le Jaanong re ne re kopa gore a ministry o eme ka dinao agilwe ka madi a Puso. Rre Molale, roll up your sleeves o thuse khansele ya rona ya . Khansele ya and see to it gore leobo le le a agiwa. rona e tlaa dira jang e sena ditsompelo? Jaaka re file ministry madi jaana Mr Chairperson, ba eme ka dinao Ke tsena kwa Tonota West, yo o saleng a thibeletse ka gore ditlamelo tsotlhe tse re neng re di solofeditswe di 1998. Bagaetsho, we pray for village infrastructure nne teng gore batsadi kwa Sojwe le Lephephe ba tle ba kwa Tonota West. Pele ga ke tswa kwa Shashe Mooke thusiwe ka service centre. fale, ke ne ke kopile gore ke kopa gore motse wa Shashe Mooke o tlhoka primary school ya bobedi ka Mr Chairperson, ke kope ministry gape gore kana re na gore sekole se se teng se na le bana ba le 1,100. Rre le sekole gatwe Boatlaname. Sekole se sa Boatlaname Molale ka tsweetswee, re agele sekole sa bobedi ka gore ga se a dira sentle mo lekwalong la bosupa. Se dirile batsadi ba tsaya bana ba ba isa kwa Francistown mo maswe fela thata, mme mathata a bone e le gore ga ba na go se siamelang motse. Re agele sekole sa bobedi kwa motlakase. Jaanong ke ne ke gakolola Tona gore ka re Shashe Mooke. mo file madi, a sekole sa Boatlaname se ye go tsenngwa motlakase gore bana ba rona le bone ba tle ba tshube Ke rata Paragraph 26 ya molaetsa wa gago. Fa e le gore dikhomputara tsa bone gape ba tle ba rutege jaaka Goromente ga a na madi, tsamaya o ye go re kopela from bana ba bangwe mo dikoleng tse dingwe ba rutega. the Chinese jaaka ba tswa go aga sekole kwa Chobe. Le Barutabana koo le bone ba tle ba nne le moko wa go rona re batla sekole seo kwa motseng wa Shashe Mooke. ruta bana ba rona ka gore gompieno ba a sokola batho E bile re kopa le classrooms tse six, admin block, kitchen ba Modimo. Candle e tlaa dira eng Mr Chairperson le storeroom kwa Foley. All primary schools kwa mo malatsing a gompieno? Ke kopa Minister gore a Tonota as a constituency have at least five classes di Boatlaname Primary School e tsenngwe motlakase. rutelwa kwa ntle. Ke rutetswe ka fa tlase ga setlhare Mr Chairperson, a le bo ngwanaangwanake ba rutelwe ka Se sengwe rraetsho ke dingongora. Rraetsho, batho fa tlase ga setlhare e bile ba ntse fa fatshe? Nnyaa, ya go ba ke ba emetseng ga se batho ba ba nang le madi a a batla madi Rre Molale o tsosolose backlog eradication; kaekae. Itsholelo ya bone e kwa tlase. Ba beile dilo tsa dikole tsotlhe di agiwe. Motlotlegi Modulasetilo, I am bone tsa botshelo ka bontsinyana mo ministry wa ga Rre beginning to panic ka gore ke feletswe ke nako. Molale.

Revenue support grant; dikhansele tse di tshwanang le Ke ne na le mathata Mr Chairperson gore kana kwa bo Tonota, Hunhukwe; rural councils, ka tsweetswee, a dikgaolong tsa rona fa batho ba lwala ba tswa sepatela, di tswelele di akola (benefit) more revenue support grant ngaka e tswa go ba kwalela gore o bolawa ke sukiri kana as in Paragraph 49. Raya urban councils ba ipatlele high blood mme fa o bolawa ke sukiri, o tshwanetse madi tlhe rra. Ba fokolotse revenue support grant mme gore o je dijo tse le tse, mme fa ba tsena kwa ofising ya o e tsenyetse rona ba dikgaolo. ga Mmaboipelego, o gana go ba thusa. O bua gore ga a

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ka ke a tla go laelwa ke ngaka gore o ka a fa batho bao maemo? Batho ba le ba tlwaetse Kgosi ya bone, ke ene dijo tse ba di kwaletsweng ke ngaka. Mr Chairperson, a ba tlhaloganyang. Gatwe mathata ke eng? Ke a kopa selo se a tshwenya jaaka ke ne ke bua gore ke emetse rraetsho gore, go gakololwe Bogosi jwa Mokwena gore batho ba ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane. Motho fa a bolawa maemo a a nne teng, re nne le Kgosi kwa Loologane. ke sukiri, o ya go tsaya kae madi a go ya go reka dijo tsa Kgosi a kgone gore a tlhokomele batho ba gagwe. batho ba ba bolawang ke sukiri? Mr Chairperson, ke ne Affirmative action e kae Mr Chairperson? Metse ya rona ke kopa gore Tona a tle a re tlhalosetse gore a mme gone ya tennyanateng, e thusiwa thata ke affirmative action. ke tsamaiso ya gore Mmaboipelego a gane se ngaka a se Fa re e beile re sa e dirise, fa ke le mo Kgotleng, ke kwadileng? Re tsaya gore ngaka or a medical doctor fa botswa gore Mopalamente, affirmative action ya gago a kwadile selo, o a bo a tlhatlhobile a bone gore motho e kae, ke araba ke reng Mr Chairperson? Ke gakolole yo o tshwanetswe ke go thusiwa ka selo se. Tona gore nnyaa, a re se ka ra dira jalo rraetsho, a re Jaanong, fa mmaboipelego a gana a sena dikitso dipe emeng ka dinao Loologane e tle e thusiwe. tsa bongaka Mr Chairperson, ga go tsamaye sentle. Ke bue sa bofelo ke re, kana Letlhakeng jaaka ke ne ke Ke kopa gore Tona, a ntlhalosetse gore a mme go mo tsamaisong kana ke tshwetso ya ga mmaboipelego fela, bua maloba, ke... e o a bong a e tsaya kwa dikgaolong, ka gore re batho ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Boko is asking for re tswang kwa dikgaolong? elucidation.

Se sengwe Mr Chairperson, ke itumetse thata, ke MR KABLAY: Nako ga e yo mongwame. Ke sa le ke utlwile gore Village Development Committees (VDCs) bua rraetsho, ke ne ke bua le maloba ka Letlhakeng jaanong ke lehuka la khansele. Ke tsaya gore VDCs tsa gore ke eng e sa nne district? Letlhakeng e godile Mr rona le dituelo di tlaa nna botoka. Re ka leboga thata Chairperson, go metse e metona e e dikaganyeditseng Mr Chairperson gore dituelo tsa maVDC di nne botoka. Letlhakeng; e tshwana le , , Motokwe, Batho ba ba dira tiro e tona thata, fa baeng ba tla mo , , , , motseng ke VDC, fa Mopalamente a tla ke VDC ka dipaakanyo tsa bone. Fa gongwe ba ntshe ma P5 ba ye Mantshwabisi le , e na le batho ba bantsi. go reka two litres ya coke, ba e beye mo tafoleng gore Madi a ba a fiwang e le sub-district Mr Chairperson, Mopalamente e re a ntse a bua jaana, a bo a ntse a nwa ga a lekane kgaolo e e kanakana. Kgaolo ya rona Mr coke e. O kgona go bona gore batho ba Mr Chairperson, Chairperson, e tshwanetse ya nna a district. Ke lebogile ba ithaopetse metse ya bone go le kae. Jaanong, ke a thata gore e bo e ntse sub-district lebaka le le telele kopa Mr Chairperson gore nnyaa, batho ba go sa le thata. Rre Mokgothu o ne a eme ka dinao e santse e le go ntse gotwe go tlaa bonwa. Go tlaa bonwa leng Mr Mopalamente wa kgaolo e, bogologolo, 40 years back, Chairperson, ka mathata ga a fele? Mathata fa a fela, a bua gore Letlhakeng e tshwanetse ya nna a district. ngwaga o o tlang a mangwe a a simologa. A go tsewe Jaanong ke mo dinaong tsa ga Rre Mokgothu, ke a tshwetso fela go bonwe gore batho bale ba duelwa bokae, le bone ba tle ba kgone gore ba re thuse. gakolola gore kana se Rre Mokgothu a neng a se bua, se ntse se teng in the Hansard. Ga se gore ke gone re Mr Chairperson, ke na le mathata, re sale re bua ka buang fela maabane jaana gore Letlhakeng re batla gore koloi ya Kgotla ya Mantshwabisi. Ke sale ke solofediwa e nne district, go sa le go builwe 40 years back, ke Rre koloi bogologolo gotwe Kgotla ya Mantshwabisi e tlaa Mokgothu. Ke a kopa rraetsho gore, a e re o aba districts, rekelwa koloi, go fitlhela gompieno. Ke botse Tona a o se ka wa lebala Letlhakeng, o e tsenye mo teng, ke tle a mpolelele gore tota gatwe koloi ya Mantshwabisi kgaolo e tona e re tshwanetseng ra nna le district rra. Re e kae, e ke neng ke e solofeditswe? Mantshwabisi ke batla ba tlhabologa jaaka dikgaolo di tlhabologa. Ke a motse o o nang le metsana e mentsi. Jaanong Kgosi ya leboga Mr Chairperson. Modimo o tlaa dira eng? Ditsheko tse di kanakana tse, o tlaa di dira jang a sena koloi? Ke gakolola rraetsho gore, MR LUCAS (BOBONONG): Ke a leboga Mr a koloi ya Mantshwabisi e bonale, gore batho bagarona Chairperson. Ke akgele mo Ministry of Local ba tle ba thusege. Government and Rural Development. Tota lephata le ke lone le re ka le dirisang go tlhabolola dikgaolo, e bile Mr Chairperson, ke sale ke bua ka Kgosi wa kwa le bone ba etle e re ba ipoka ba re, “Bathopele.” Ka Loologane, ke ntse ke bua ka yone. Gatwe mathata ke jalo, ministry o o ka re thusa go neela batho dithata le eng fa Kgosi ya rona kwa Loologane, a sa tsholediwe ditlamelo.

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Ke batla go simolola ka kgang ya Decentralisation a tlogele go diega a tsena ka major centres. Ga ke tseye Policy. Rre Molale, ministry wa gago o sa le ka o gore e ka nna tiro e e thata, ga go tlhoke madi kwa go Rre solofeditse, fa ke gakologelwa sentle, dingwaga di setse Matsheka, e bile go boloka madi fa re go tlhwaafaletse. di feta lesome re ntse re bua ka Decentralisation Policy, Decentralisation e tlaa raya gore mo nakong, e goroge mme e sa diragadiwe e bile e sa tle mo Palamenteng. gape le kwa Tribal Administration mo dikgannyeng tsa Rre Molale, ke kopa gore fa o araba letsatsi leno, o tsamaiso ya semorafe. Re a tshwenyega rraetsho, ka gore re bolelele gore Decentralisation Policy e tla leng mo re utlwa gore nngwe ya tseo, ya Tribal Administration Palamenteng, tell us the exact dates, give us a very clear gore e kgone to be decentralized, go a supafala gore go timeline, e se ka ya nna gore nnyaa e etla, e etla, mme ka nna ga tlhoka gore go lebiwe melao e... e sa goroge. Mo godimo ga moo, ke go kaetse gore fa o ntse o diega ka Decentralisation Policy, go raya gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lucas, unmute o dia go gorosa ditlamelo kwa bathong. Iteke motho yourself. wetsho, o se ka wa nna o bua kgang e le nngwefela e HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, I have lost e sa diragadiweng. Re a itse gore kgang e nngwe e o contact with the Member on the floor. ratang go e bua thata ke ya review, e nngwe e o kareng ga e fele go buiwa, ke ya gore ke tlaa diragatsa, mme o MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lucas, unmute sa diragatse. Emisa talk, talk, ke nako ya action. yourself.

Ke dumalana le ba ba reng sub-districts bontsi jwa tsone MR LUCAS: Mr Speaker, can you hear? di tshwanetse tsa nna full districts, mme e bile kana ga go tlhoke gore go baakanngwe Molaomotheo. Ke wena MR CHAIRPERSON: We can hear you. o re bolelelang ka metlha Rre Molale gore sub-districts MR LUCAS: Ke ne ke re dikgaolo di tshwana le bo gore di nne full districts, ga di tlhoke paakanyo ya Bobirwa, di a tshwenya ka gore gompieno fa o tsena Molaomotheo. Ka le etle le ipate ka Molaomotheo gore kwa ofising ya ga Kgosi, go a kwala mo lebating gotwe o tshwanetse go sekasekiwa, e jaanong ya sub-districts ke Moemela Kgosi. Re re ao, le raya gore le gompieno gore di nne full districts, e diiwa ke eng? A ga se gore re ntse ga re ise re bone boipuso, go a tlhokafala gore re jaanong ke boitseme? Re kopa gore o tseye kgato mo bone boipuso, re ko re nne le Kgosi fela e e tletseng e e kgannyeng e Rre Molale, le gone o re tlele ka very clear go sa tweng e emetse ope. Ke tsaya gore thulaganyo e timelines, o re bolelele dinako tsa gore ke batla gore e re o e fitlhela kwa Boteti, Tutume le dikgaolo tse dingwe. ka nako e, sub-districts tse di latelang di bo di feletse e Thulaganyo e e tshwanetse go baakanngwa, re nne le le full districts. Ke kopa gore o re neele dinako rraetsho. Dikgosi fela tse di feletseng, e re fa go baakanngwa Sub-district ya rona ya Bobirwa, tumelo ke gore e lekane melao ya bo Tribal Territories Act le Constitution e go nna Bobirwa District Council. E re fa o kgaoganya baakanngwa, seo le sone se baakanngwe. jalo, re dumela gore e tlaa nna mo ngwageng one o, o Seo le sone gape re batla se diragala mo land boards; itse gore le rona re emetse gore re nne Bobirwa District sub-land boards di tsaya nako e telele go dira ditiro tsa Council. Ga go tlhoke paakanyo ya Molaomotheo, a re tsone le go aba lefatshe tota. Fa go na le dikgang tsa land tsweleleng pele, e se ka ya nna puo fela ya molomo e e board mo dikgaolong di tshwana le tsa rona, dingwe tsa sa diragadiweng. tsone di felela di isitswe kwa Serowe, go bo go nna le Rre Molale, ke tsere kgang e mo go wena e o reng, madi madiadia a maleele, dikgang tse go ise go itebaganngwe le tsone. Go a tlhokafala gore land boards di ikemele ka a a Revenue Support Grant, o santse o gakgamala gore nosi, tsa bo Tutume, Boteti gore di tle di kgone go dira fa a tshwanetse go goroga kwa Bobirwa, Goodhope tiro ya tsone ka bofefo. Mo bogompienong, go mogoga- kgotsa kwa Tutume, o ipotsa gore ke eng a tshwanetse moleele gore land boards di dire ditiro tsa tsone, e le gore a fete ka major centres like Kanye, Serowe, kgotsa gore jaanong di tshwanetse go feta ka mafelo a mangwe. mafelo a mangwe a madi ao a fetang ka one. Rre Molale, Batho betsho, re batla boipuso jwa land boards fela re bolelele nako e e tlhwaafetseng, e o itlamang ka yone jaaka jwa Bogosi le jwa dikhansele. gore mo ngwageng o, April 1, Revenue Support Grant fa e tswa kwa lephateng la gago, e tlhamalale straight Ke tswelela pele, kana ministry o o bua ka rural kwa the sub-districts. Madi a rona a Bobirwa, a ko a development, ga re ka ke ra bua ka rural development, go tlhamalale straight mo Bobirwa. Madi a kwa Goodhope sena ditiro kwa dikgaolong tsa selegae. Go a tshwanela a ye kwa Goodhope, a Tutume a ye kwa Tutume. Madi gore mo dikgaolong, kgaolo nngwe le nngwe, e nne le a

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major industry, jaaka Rre Motaosane a re kgaolo nngwe le yone e goroge kwa go P1, 500, re lebile boturu jwa le nngwe e tshwanetse go nna le a major development botshelo ka gore bo a tura. Ga o ka ke wa re nnyaa, mme project. Ka re kgaolo nngwe le nngwe e tshwanetse re ba neela lemmenyana, ka lemme ga le bolaye. Nnyaa, go nna le a major industry, manufacturing industry e dithuso tse ba di bonang ke tsa lenyatso, ke tsa lekgobo e hirang batho ba ka tshwara 1000 go ya kwa pele. Fa tse re dumelang gore di tshwanetse go tlhabololwa. go ntse jalo jaanong batho ba bereka, go raya gore le ditlhabololo mo kgaolong, di kgona go tla ka pela, le Batho ba ba tshelang le bogole; go tshela le bogole lehuma mo kgaolong le kgona go fokotsega. Fa o na le go turu thata, ka jalo batho ba ba tshwanetse gore le dikgaolo e le gore tiro e e leng teng ke ya go bereka kwa allowance ya bone e tsholediwe fela mo go bonalang, Kgotleng, sepatela, clinic, gone moo ka bogone, ga go mo go tsamaelanang le matshelo a motho yo o tshelang ka ke ga re thusa go tlhabolola dikgaolo. Dikgaolo di ka bogole. Mo bogompienong, batho ba ba tshelang ka tshwanetse go nna le ditiro, mme gore moo go kgonagale, bogole, matsana a ba a bonang a kwa tlase fela thata, re tshwanetse ka bonatla jotlhe jo re ka bo kgonang, re mo e leng gore ga ba kgone go dira ditiro tsa bone tsa tlhomamise gore yone Puso e tsenya letsogo mo go reng letsatsi le letsatsi. Ga ba kgone go itshetsa, ga ba kgone go nne le tsone industries tseo. Ga re ka ke ra baya fela go ijesa. mo private sector, private sector yone e batla go dira dikgwebo kwa ditoropong. Puso e tshwanetse go tsenya Ke felelele ka yone ya gore Rraetsho Molale, go a letsogo gore go nne le industries mo dikgaolong tsa supafala gore kwa lephateng la gago corruption e godile. selegae. Go nne le industry mo Bobonong, Gobojango, Fa o bua ka dikgang tsa lephata la gago, ga go utlwale Tsetsebjwe e e hirang bana ba motse oo ba le palo e e sentle gore wa re o dira eng ka corruption e e anameng bonalang, e e leng gore kwa morago bone bana bao, ke e bile e atile kwa lephateng la gago. Go supafala gore bone ba tlaa thusang go tsholetsa itsholelo ya motse one ka COVID, le fa o re o fepile batho sentle, mme madi oo. a mangwe a feletse mo motlhobodikeng, a jelwe ke corruption. Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke tabogele kwa go ya social welfare le ya go thusa batho ba ba tlhokileng lesego mo botshelong. Le ba MR THIITE: Mr Chairperson, re fapaane (swap) le gongwe ka mabaka a ba sa a itlhophelang, ba iphitlhela Mme Monnakgotla kwa Ministry of Local Government. ba sa kgone go itshetsa. Se re se lemogang ke gore thuso yone e, bogolo jang e e tsenyang (involve) madi, o MS MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): fitlhela e le gore batho ba rona gompieno ba thusiwa ka Thank you Mr Chairperson. Honourable Thiite jaaka madi a a kanang ka bo P500 kwa Ipelegeng, P500 e le a setse a buile, re fapaane. Ke go leboge gore o bo o bagodi, bo disability allowance ya banalebogole e nna mphile nako ya gore ke akgele, mme ke eme kopo e ya bo P400 fela jalo. Re re nnyaa, madi one a a neelwang madi nokeng Mr Chairperson. Local Government fela batho ba, ga a itepatepanye le boturu jwa botshelo. Go jaaka re itse gore ke yone e tlhabololang bodirelapuso a tlhokafala gore e re fa Goromente yo o ratang batho kwa magaeng le magae. Ke tlaa simolola fela ka yone a dira mananeo a a ntseng jaana, a lebelele boturu jwa Kgalagadi North e le sub-district, nako e setse e tšhaile botshelo, a bo a baya thuso eo go tsamaelana le boturu Tona gore e nne council e e ikemetseng. Go tswa kwa jwa botshelo. Hukuntsi go ya kwa Tsabong go kgakala, o tsamaya 540 kilometers (km). Kana we report kwa Tsabong nako le Se se diragalang gompieno ke gore, go raya gore go nako, ntlha e e lebelele gore Kgalagadi North e ikemele. dirisiwa thulaganyo ya bojanosi, e gotweng fa e le gore ga o kgone mo botshelong, go raya gore o duelwa madi Ke santse ke tlaa nna ke ntse ke bua fela ka yone. a a kwa tlasetlase. Gotwe gone moo ka bogone, o tlaabo Fa ke lebeletse Kgalagadi North, bo mmaboipelego ba a o rotloediwa gore o ipatlele tiro, go tewa o ipatlela tiro tlhaela, mme kana le le Local Government, le filwe gore e le kae, mme tiro e seyo ka gore re a itse gore ditiro le lebelele kgokgontsho, bogolo jang ya bana le bomme. ga di yo. Ka jalo, ke sone se re buang re re, batho ba tshwana le bagodi jalo, old age pension, ba tshwanetse Tiro e e tlhokana thata le bo mmaboipelego, mme go okelediwa madi go tshwara madi a a kanang ka P1, bogolo jang at the settlements, bo mmaboipelego ba a 500 ka gore boturu jwa botshelo bo a patika gore ba tlhaela. Tona, lebelela kgang e ya bo mmaboipelego ka amogele madi a a kalo. Ipelegeng le yone, e tshwanetse gore kgokgontsho e ntsi, e bile bo mmaboipelego, VDC go bona madi a a fetang a e a bonang gompieno, gongwe le Dikgosi, ke bone ba ba ka fokotsang kgokgontsho e.

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Ke tsena mo go ya Dikgosi, go na le gore e re fa Kgosi Classrooms; bana ga ba na classrooms. Re kgakala le a tlogetse lefatshe le le ka kwano, go tseye nako ya gore ditlamelo, ke jaaka o bona Kgalagadi North e le kwa Kgosi a emisediwe (replaced). Selo se a se lebelelwe ka tlase. Go tlhoka classrooms mo, ke dilo tse di dirang gore jaanong se felela se tlisa dikgotlhang mo motseng. gore bana ba se ka ba pasa. Fa ke tsweletse jalo Tona, ke ntse ke le kwa dikoleng, ke ne ke na le Mothusa Tona, Le gone, e bo e le gore motse fa o sena Kgosi kgotsa Motlotlegi Modukanele. O fitlhetse sekole sa Ngwatle Kgotla e sena Kgosana, ke selo se se sa siamang, kana se se na kitchen, e le foo, go se na tafole, stove le dipitsa. Kgosi ke motho yo o tlisang kagiso gone foo, lebelela O ipotsa gore tota gatwe tsamaiso ke eng Tona? A re kgang e Tona. Fa ke tsena mo go tsone Dikgosi, bogolo baakanyeng selo se. Re batla maduo mo barutabaneng, jang kwa Hukuntsi, ga gona bakwaledi ba Dikgosi. Fa mme sekole seo se dirile 12 per cent. Bana have failed, mokwaledi a tsena on leave jalo, kana go raya gore ke gore ga ba je sentle. A re lebelele botshelo jwa bana Kgosi ga a theogele, mme e bile jaanong go raya gore ba. ga a kgone go bereka. A bo e le gore tiro ya ga Kgosi e nna ntsi, a golo mo go lebelelwe Tona. Fa ke ntse ke tsweletse jalo, re a itse gore Kgalagadi North e na le settlements tse dintsi, e bile ga go na Ke bue ka Kgalagadi North, go na le Kgotla ya Tshane ditsela le dikoloi. Dikoloi tsa council di tsaya ngwaga e e saleng e digwa ke diphefo, le gompieno Tona re e bo e sule, mme go di emisetsa go tsaya nako, re ntse setse re na le ngwaga, Kgosi ga a theogele. A Kgotla e e re itse gore kwa Kgalagadi North, ga go na ditsela. A re baakanngwe, Kgosi a kgone go bereka. Ga gona le rona lebelele selo se ka gore fa ba setse ba tlisa Budget ba re kwa re tsenyetsang le tsone diphuthego tsa Kgotla teng. ba reka dikoloi, e nna bothata. A re lebelele selo se. Ga gona kwa VDC e kopanelang teng, ke gore jaanong le ene Kgosi le fa a amogela jalo, ga a itse gore ke a reng. Bana ba ba tsenang kwa sekoleng sa Hunhukwi, fa o ne O mpotsa nako le nako, a selo se se lebelelwe Tona. o ka bona maloba, ba tsewa ka diteraka fa ba isiwa kwa sekoleng. Fa ba phuthiwa mo metseng ya bone jaana Fa ke tla go tsena fa gore, lephata le le tlhabolola metse gore ba ye kwa sekoleng, ba tsewa ka truck. Ba le ka fa le bodirelapuso… morago ba nelwa ke pula. Dilwana tsa bone di kolobile HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, ke go se na sepe, e le matlhomola pelo, go tlhakatlhakane. kopa elucidation. I cannot type ka gore I note points tsa O sa itse gore ngwana o fa kae, dilwana tsa gagwe di ba ba buang sir. fa kae. E rile ke lebelela jaana, ka lela ka le nna ke na le ngwana. Ke kutlobotlhoko e tona. Jaanong a re MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Monnakgotla, baakanye selo se, bogolo re ba batlele truck bus. Minister Molale is asking for an elucidation. Ke ntse ke le kwa Kgalagadi North bogolo jang kwa MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a amogela. Hunhukwi, go na le hostel ya bana ba le 165. Ke ne ke MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND na le Tona Modukanele, ke mo tsere ke re, a reye go RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): bona dikgwetlho tse ke di bonang kwa Kgalagadi North. Elucidation. Ga ke a utlwa sentle, a wa re ofisi kana Bana bale gore ba tshameke, ba tshameka ka matlapa. leobo la Kgotla kwa Tshane? Ba ngatana ka matlapa. O bo o ipotsa gore ke eng ba MS MONNAKGOTLA: Leobo la Kgotla kwa Tshane sa direlwe diswinkinyana tsa go tshameka ka ba nna le le saleng le digiwa ke diphefo, fa Kgosi a theogelelang foo. Ga ba na the balls; go ngatanwa ka matlapa, le go teng. Ke a leboga Tona. Badirelapuso kwa Kgalagadi bolaana ba tlaa bolaana Tona. A re lebeleleng matshelo North ga ba na boroko, mme jaaka bo seyo, go raya gore a ka gore Tona o ne a botsa gore, “bana ba tshameka ba hirisa mo metseng, ga se selo se se ntle. jang?” Morutabana a bo a re, “fa ba setse ba tsewa kwa malwapeng a bone, ba a gana. Ba tshwanetse go gana ka Matlo a barutabana a ole, a digilwe ke diphefo tsa maloba gore ga ba nne sentle gone fa.” Ba tshameka jang ka re kwa Lokgwabe. Selo se se tsaya nako go baakanngwa. Fa o tsena kwa khanseleng, gatwe ga go na madi. Madi itse ngwana ga a tshwanela go tshameka, o tshwanetse a dule Tona, lebelela selo se. Re kgakala le ditlamelo, go tsena sekole. Dilo tse, ke di beye Tona pele. Ke mme re a itse gore fa gotwe, bodirelapuso, tsamayang ntse ke le kwa Hunhukwi, bogolo jang kapari ya bana kwa Kgalagadi, ba goga dinao. Ba bereka ka botswapelo ba, ga ba fiwe diaparo sentle Tona. Ga ba apare sentle jwa bone. Lebelela dilo tse Tona. A go lebelelwe fa gotlhelele. O bona ngwana a tsamaya ka lenao ka nako badirelapuso ba nnang teng. Matlo a barutabana jaaka a e, nnyaa, nnyaa. Ke mmangwana, nnyaa, a re baakanye tserwe ke diphefo jaana, lebelela selo seo Tona. selo se.

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Ke bo ke tsene mo go ya VDC; a e lebelelwe. VDC e a nna teng, projects tsa council di tlaa tlhokomelwa, e tshwere motse. Ke yone Palamente ya motse. Jaanong bile di elwe tlhoko le ka fa di diragadiwang ka teng. fa e le Palamente ya motse jalo, nako le nako fa go Jaanong se sengwe se ke se lebogeleng Tona ke gore, o tsena baeng, ditlhabololo tsotlhe tsa motse, phakela fa na le maikaelelo a to train extension officers. Golo mo ba tsoga ba ya kwa go Kgosi go bereka le ene. Ba bona fa o ka go dira, go ka emisa mathata a re a bonang kwa gore go diragala eng mo motseng, go tshwanetse go dikgaolong. Fa o ka lebelela dikgaolo tsa rona, officers diragala eng. Ba akanyetseng ka thebe. A ba okeletswe tse di koo, ba bereka in silos. Ga ba bereke ba kopane. O madi. Dinako tse dintsi ba a bo ba bereka tiro ya morafe, fitlhela yo mongwe a gogela kwa. Fa e le gore o tlaa ba a go lebelelwe selo se. Mr Chair, ke kopa nako foo. tsenya mo training ba le kwa dikgaolong koo, ba bereke MR CHAIRPERSON: It is about to finish, 20 seconds. mmogo, ba itse gore ba dira mmogo.

MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke ise le lebale, ke tsene mo Selo se ke se eletsang Honourable Molale, fa go ka go ya kgokgontsho; Tona, a re lebeleleng kgokgontsho kgonagala, go dirwe jaaka re ne re bona fa COVID ya bana, bogolo jang kwa dikoleng and settlements. A e simolola maloba, especially Minister of Basic re boneng gore bana bale ba ya dikoleng jang, bogolo Education. O ne a ntsha team ya experts tsa gagwe tsa jang ba ba nnang kgakala, ba ya dikoleng kgakala. A go education gore ba tswele kwa ntle ba ye go bona mathata lebelelwe … a a leng teng kwa dikgaolong. Ke tsaya gore Local MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you. Your time is up! Government le yone e tshwanetse gore jaaka e tlaabo e Honourable Pule, then Honourable Motsamai. dira strategic plan sa bone, ngwaga le ngwaga ba ntshe letsholo la badirelapuso ba maemo a a kwa godimo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, check ba tsamaye mo dikgaolong jaaka ya Kgatleng. Ba the list e ba go e neetseng sir, ke belaela o ntlodile. tsamaye ba ye go bona gore bothata ke eng, ba tshware MR PULE (MOCHUDI EAST): Ke leboga thata diphuthego tsa Dikgotla. E se ka ya nna o kare ke rona Modulasetilo gore o bo o mphile sebaka se. Ke lebogele Mapalamente re tsamayang re ya kwa Dikgotleng re ya Tona pego e a re e beileng pele. Re mo akgola thata ka go tshwara diphuthego, mme badirelapuso ba le teng, gore go na le dilo tse a supang gore o batla go di dira, ba maemo a a rileng kwa dikhanseleng, ba bapile le a tlhabolola lephata la gagwe jaaka a buile ka National mathata ba sa kgone to address it. Potso e ke e ipotsang Social Protection Recovery Plan e e nang le National ke gore ka gore fa o dira strategic plan, o dirisa golo Social Protection Framework. Fa o dirile National mo gotweng Strength, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Protection Framework, o supa gore o batla go ya golo Threats (SWOT). Re lebelela Strength, Weaknesses, gongwe. Opportunities and Threats tse di teng mo kgaolong. Jaanong strategic plan sa dikhansele se dirwa go lebilwe HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… eng fa e tlaare nako le nako fa re ile kwa diphuthegong MR PULE: Ke leboga Tona a bo a tlhalositse gore tsa Dikgotla, e bo e le gone re bolelelwang mathata a a Ipelegeng e ya go tlhabololwa. E dirwa ka mokgwa yo teng mo dikgaolong. Re tlaabo re tla mo Palameteng re e tlaabong e dira projects tsa sennelaruri. Go bua nnete, tla go bua ka one, mme beng ba mathata ba ntse mo go o fitlhela go dirwa ditiro tse di sa re tsweleng mosola. one kwa dikgaolong. Fa gongwe go ntshiwa ditlhare fa thoko ga mabala a Re leboga gore go bo go na le company ya maChina e e ditshupo jalojalo. Ke dilo tse kamoso o ka se ka wa di supa ka gore ditlhare tseo, di tswa ngwaga le ngwaga fa agileng sekole jaaka o ne o tlhalosa, e bile it is planning dipula di na. go aga se sengwe kwa Kazungula. Rraetsho, le kwa kgaolong ya me kwa motseng wa Oodi, ke tlhokana le Ke utlwa gape Tona a tlhalosa gore, he would dedicate a sekole sa primary. A e re gongwe le ntse le buisanya project officer yo o tlaabong a lebagane le projects tse di le bone jaana, le ba gogele kwa Oodi. Fa o ka lebelela farologanyeng tsa council for optimal service delivery. Ke ka leboga thata fa golo moo go ka diragala. Ke rata Oodi, tota dipalo tsa bana ba teng ba oketsegile ka go tshwana le dibui tse di buileng pele gore dilo tse gore go bapile le toropo. Sekole sa teng se tletse bana dingwe fa re di bua, re di bue di diragala. Re na le tumelo ba bantsi thata. Re ne re tlhokana le primary school ya e e tletseng ya gore project officer yole fa a ka bewa bobedi kwa Oodi.

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Tona Molale o buile ka infrastructure. Ke rata thata fa ka bua le Ramapodise ke mo raya ke re, rraetsho, ka o bua ka infrastructure because nako le nako fa ke le gore batho ba ba dira tiro ya lona ya sepodise, ga le nke mo Palamenteng, ke a tlhalosa gore ga go na ka fa re ka le leka go kgarametsa gore ba duelwe nako e santse e le nnang le ditlhabololo ka teng re sa improve infrastructure teng? Kana ga go monate gore o dire tiro e e rough e e ya rona kwa dikgaolong. Jaaka o ntse o bua gore o ya go tshwanang le e, e bo e re kgwedi e fela o tshwanetse go dirisa bo WiFi kwa Dikgotleng, a re dumalaneng gape re amogela, ga bo go sa bonale sepe. le councils gore dilo tse di tshwanang le internal roads tse o buileng ka tsone; ditsela tse di kopanyang metse, Rre Molale, Tribal Administration e a lela kwa kgaolong di tlhokomelwe. Di agiwe. Kana tota go bua nnete fa ya me ya Mochudi East gore e ikgatholositswe. Ke a leboga fa o re o isa WiFi teng. Kana fa o dira jalo, tota o ka lebelela seemo sa ditsela mo dikgaolong tsa rona, o reela gone gore le batho ba motse ba kgone to access ga se a nna sentle le e seng. Fa o ka ya kwa Kgatleng WiFi ba nne le access to information. Bogolo jang kana mo kgaolong e ke tswang mo go yone mo Mochudi banana ba ba tlaa bong ba batla go itse gore ditiro di kae. East, ga o ka ke wa rata ditsela ka fa di ntseng ka teng. Fela ke ne ke kopa gore a ko go tsholediwe dinao, Tribal Di senyegile, ga go iwe gope, go tlhomola pelo. Jaanong Administration e bone dikoloi le dithuso tse maphata a fa o re o tsaya batho ba ba kwa Palakampa for instance, mangwe a nang le tsone. Le gone Magosi a teng, se se ba ba rekang mo Mochudi, kana dimausu di tswetswe ntshwenyang thata ke gore, dikonteraka tsa bone, fa because of COVID-19. So mongwe le mongwe fa a gongwe o bona Kgosi a sendelwa konteraka e tsoga batla go reka mashi kana loaf, o patelesega go palama a e fela kamoso. Motho wa Modimo a feditse kgwedi tswa Palakampa a tle mo Mochudi go reka, mo ditseleng yotlhe a ipotsa gore go diragala eng, a tshogile gore a ke tse di ntseng jang! Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng re di tlaa bona tiro kana ga ke na go e bona. Jaanong ke ne ke lebelele bagaetsho ka leitlho fela le le ntšhotšho, and re dilo tse a di nne di lebelelwe bagaetsho, re bone gore make sure gore dilo tse di dirwa sentle, mme e bile di a re a di baakanya. tlhokomelwa. Poverty Eradication Programme; kwa dikgaolong ga Rre Molale o ne a bua ka a draft Decentralisation e dirisiwe sentle. Rre Molale fa re lebelela Poverty Policy. Fela jaaka ba bangwe ba ne ba bua bagaetsho, Eradication Programme, e ka tswa e le kwa Office ke ne ke re tota nako ya policy e e tšhaile. Fa re ka of the President, mme e ama beneficiaries tsa gago. se ka ra e diragatsa, ga re na go kgona sepe. Ke gore Batho ba ba ntshiwang mo lehumeng bale, ke ba ba re e diragatse, e tle mo Palamenteng and approve it, kwa dikgaolong tsa gago. Jaanong o tsenye leitho mo e bereke. E bile fa re sena go e dira, re e direle mo kgannyeng e, o bone gore tota naare se se padisang gotweng ke Implementation Framework, gore e ya to be lenaneo le ke eng? Fa ke go fa sekai; go na le motse implemented jang. Fa re dira jalo, kana re a bo re supa mongwe o ke itseng gore projects di 62, mme only three gore re tlhwaafetse tota, re batla go isa ditlhabololo kwa are functional, mme batho ba le 62 o ba file madi. Golo motseng. mo go na le sengwe se se jelweng, gongwe Lekoko la Experts le ye go bona gore tota gatwe wastage e e Ga ke batle go farologana le dibui tse di fetileng, jaaka kanakana ke ya mofuta mang. Mapalamente a a setseng a buile gore VDC bagaetsho, dituelo tsa yone; gongwe le gongwe fa ke tsenang teng ke Sa bofelo ke gore, ke etse tlhoko gore social workers tshwara phuthego ya Kgotla, maVDC tota ba a lela, gore tsa Mochudi East are limited, mme kana Rre Molale, tota jaanong o kare ba setse ba theogela ba le permanent ga o ka ke wa function under social protection go sena ka gore ba nna fela ba bidiwa kgapetsakgapetsa, mme o enough social workers. You must have enough social kare re itlhokomolositse dituelo tsa bone. Gongwe fa le workers, deployed kwa mafelong a a tlhamaletseng, sa kgona go duela kgwedi le kgwedi, mme allowance especially hard to reach places. Mafelo a a tshwanang ya bone e okediwe, ba tie moko, le bone ba kgone go le bo Palakampa le bo Ramotlabaki a a kgakala, A fiwe bereka, ba itse gore nnyaa mme le fa ba ithaopa, mme social workers because ke gone kwa mathata a leng sengwenyana se teng se e ka reng fa a tsena kwa lwapeng mantsi teng. Golo mo go emelwe ka dinao. a botswa gore o tlholetse eng nageng, a bo a ka supa. Clinics ga ke ise ke tsene mo go tsone, mme rraetsho Go na le kgang e nngwe Rre Molale, o e ele tlhoko, ke di batla attention ka gore tota fa o ka lebelela seemo ya police volunteers; ba duelwa late nako le nako, ga ke sa tsone mo kgaolong, especially ya me ya Mochudi itse gore bothata ke eng. Kwa kgaolong ya me, ke kile East, se kwa tlase, baoki ga ba yo. Ditsompelo tse di

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tlhokafalang jaaka tse dingwe, o fitlhela fa gongwe ba ka ba nnela ruri batho ba go itsiweng fela gore fa go tlhoka sanitizers fela gotwe ga di yo mo clinic. You can iwa kwa go bone, ke ba ba yang go phakisiwa dipodi imagine! Dilo tse di ntseng jalo that are health issues, le phalešhe, ba kgone gore le bone ba nne le se ba se mme gotwe ga di yo. supang. Ditlhabololo tsa bone le di upgrade, clinics tsa teng e nne tsa bo 24 hours le maternity jalojalo. Rraetsho, ke ema jalo ke go ema nokeng ke re o fiwe madi, mme ke eletsa gore o bereke le rona, re bone Kgang ya internal roads; ke supe gore e re ntswa go na dikgaolo tsa rona di tlhabologa, di tsamaela pele, le dikompone tse ditona tse di fiwang gongwe ditsela tse go bonale gore sengwe se a dirwa. Supervision mo ditona tse di ralalang metse, fa gongwe di felela di baya dikgaolong e tlokafadiwe rraetsho, ka gore ke lemogile batho ka fa mosing. Lebelela kgang ya dikompone tse gore o kare baeteledipele ba maphata a gago ba ditona tse di tswalang ditsela tse di isang services kwa ikgatlholosa dikgaolo. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. Thank bathong. you so much. Ga o ka ke wa tswala ditsela tse di tsewang ke dikoloi MR GREEFF: Procedure Mr Speaker. With due respect go ya dikerekeng. Go na le kereke o bo o tswala tsela Mr Speaker, ke ne ke kopa gore o lebe debate list ya e bathong ba e tsayang, e e segilweng ke khansele e rona, ke belaela o ntlodile bogologolo fa e le gore ba go lebagane le kereke. Wa tswala tsela e e leng gore e tsena e neetse e ntse jaaka e ntse Sir. mo Kgotleng e nngwe, o bo o ba direla gore ba dikologe MR CHAIRPERSON: I just told you that you are not go ya go tsena ka Kgotla ya bone. Wa tswala ditsela tse there, I have it, and it shows that you are not in that list. di yang kwa guest houses. Golo moo ke go supa go sa So lela le bagaeno. tlhabolola batho. Fa e le go ba tlhabolola, ke go tlisa tlhabololo ka lenyatso, o kare batho ga ba a tshwanelwa MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Ke a leboga ke seo jaanong o ba direla fela ka gore gongwe ke ba ba Mr Speaker. Mma ke tseye tshono e rraetsho gore ke nyaditsweng. leboge Rre Molale ka go re baya pego pele. Ga se Minister wa ntlha wa lephata le go baya batho dipego Tribal administration; rraetsho, o se ka wa bua ka di pele. Ba tsene Ministers ba bo ba tswa, ba bua ka Wi-Fi fela, baakanyang seemo. Maloba ke go boleletse mananeo a bo decentralisation, jalojalo, a mantle a a ka gore le ntshitse Dikgosi mo maemong kwa Ncojane sologelang batho molemo. Ke mo kope gore a ko ene a le Karakubis le re ba godile. Fa gompieno le bua gore tle a farologane le ba bangwe ka ditsholofetso, re tle re dikgang tsa koo gongwe di santse di eme, batho ba koo sale re mo ja boswa, ka gore e bile maloba o ne a bua le bone ba a sokola, ga gona ba ba ba sekelang dikgang gore ga a ikaelele go tla go emela ditlhopho gape. Ba re mme le bua gore kana golo koo ga go tlhophiwe ka gore yang go ema gape re bo re fenya, re tle re kgone go mo go COVID. Le ba ntshitse go ntse go le COVID. Le ne ja boswa jo bo ntseng jalo. le ikantse eng fa le ba ntsha go le COVID? A ke gone le Rraetsho, ke bo ke tsena mo kgannyeng ya gore, ke ne bonang gore go COVID le sena go ba ntsha? Fa e le gore ke kopa gore Rre Molale, o tsibogele kgang ya service le santse le bona go le COVID, busetsang Dikgosi tseo centres tse le di agileng mo dikgaolong gore ditirelo di mo maemong, le ba okeletse (extend), ba tswa kgakala atumele batho. Gompieno service centres di akolwa ke ba dira tiro ka bokgabane. merubisi le bo mmamanthwane; ga di na tiriso. Batlang Dikgotlana tse dingwe tsa bo Metsimantsho, Ncojane staff le tsenye batho mo teng ba neele batho ditirelo. le tse dingwe mo mafelong a a farologaneng, ba ba Mathata ke eng Rre Molale? Kgang e ke e bua le wena tshwanelwang ke go nna le Arbitrators kana Dikgosi tsa labobedi, ke kopa o tsholetse ditlhako, kana ka puo ya Tetlanyo, ba tlhopheleng Dikgosi tseo, ba kgone gore rona ya bokaulengwe ke re o tsoge, o kgone go bona ba letlanngwe rraetsho. A ko le baakanye le services gore go diragala eng. tsa Dikgosi tsa Tetlanyo. Ke a go tla ka mogopolo o o Rraetsho, ke go kope gore o tsenye leitlho gape mo batlang gore Act e lebelelwe, e sekasekiwe sesha gore settlements, o bone gore mo kgaolong ya Ghanzi South, a ga go a tlolwa ke dinako gore motho a nne fela foo a a ga go na settlements tse dikgologolo, tse di kgonang kokometse gotwe o tlile go kgalemela batho letsatsi le to be upgraded to the standards tsa villages, gore ba letsatsi. O tshwanetse go atlhola ba bangwe kana a supe neelwe ditirelo tse di botoka tse di tlhomameng. Ba se fa e le gore ke Kgosi e e tshabegang.

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Ke fete ka bonako rraetsho; le ka dikoloi, fa o tsena Nnyaa, a batho ba settlements go bonwe gore ditsela tse kwa metseng ya Karakubis ga gona le fa e le koloi mo di a baakanngwa, ba isetswa ditlamelo indeed. Go se ka Makgotleng le dikgaolwana tse dingwe tsa settlements. gatwe batho ga ba isetswe ditlamelo ka gore koloi e na le Dikoloi di a ne di tsewa di isiwa kwa Central Transport lebaka e robegile. Batho bao ba saletse kwa morago. A Organisation (CTO). Go tsaya lebaka le leleele gore ditsela di baakanngwe. Mo kgaolong ya Ghanzi ga gona dikoloi di baakanngwe. Makgotla ga a batle Wi-Fi fela, a epe tsela e e dirilweng ke Goromente ya sekonotere e batla le bone bakwaledi ba Makgotla, ba duelwe madi a gotweng e ke e e yang kwa kgaolong ya Basarwa. Golo a utlwalang. Batho bao kana ke bone ba ba supegetsang moo ke lenyatso le le fetang selekanyo. Mathata ke eng (guide) Dikgosi go atlhola ditsheko. Ke bone ba ba Rre Molale? Bofa boots o ralale kgaolo, o kgone gore kokomalang, ba tsaya minutes tsa ditsheko rraetsho, dilo tse o di diragatse. Madi a bo Old Age Pension, tsoga Kgosi a bo a atlhola ka bogakolodi jwa bakwaledi. o dire ka pele ka gore kana fa re bua jaana re a tsofala, Jaanong re ba duela e kete re a ba leboga mme e le batho le wena o a tsofala jaaka o re ga o eme jaana mme o ba ba tshwereng bothata. ya go a batla. Le nna ke a go a batlela e bile ke a go a ratela. Jaanong e se ka ya re kamoso wa ikotlhaya, o Ke feta ka bonako rraetsho. Rre Molale, go na le kgang e ya social benefits; bo Old Age Pension, ke e gokaganya sa baakanye dilo o santse o itekanetse. Ke a leboga Mr le kgang ya Ipelegeng. Jaaka gongwe Rre Lucas a ntse Chairperson. a bua, a bagodi ba duelwe madi a a kana ka P1, 500. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF YOUTH Ga gona le fa e le seipato sa COVID. Kgang e re ne re ntse re e bua COVID e seyo le e gana, jaanong COVID EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE fa e sena go tsena la re go COVID. Ka pele go ne go DEVELOPMENT (MR BILLY): Ke a leboga sena COVID, le ne le ganela eng? A ba duelwe P1, 500. Modulasetilo. Mma ke leboge Rraetsho Molale gore a A batho ba Ipelegeng bogolo ba tsamae kwa go bo P1, bo a re beile pego ya gagwe pele, a tlhalosa ka fa a neng 500 le bone. A Village Development Committee (VDC) a tlhalosa ka teng. Ke supe gape botlhokwa jwa ministry Chairpersons di duelwe madi a a utlwalang. Ga gona ope o gore kana ke one mother ministry wa ga Goromente. yo letsatsi le letsatsi a ka phakelelang kwa Makgotleng Jaanong re tshwanetse re ele tlhoko gore budget fa re a dira tiro go fitlhela letsatsi le ya go phirima, a duelwa tla mo dinakong tsone tseo, go tsenngwe madi a a kwa madi a bokgoba, a tlogetse bana le tlala. godimo gore ministry o o kgone go dira ditiro tsa one Go na le kgang e ya policies tsa batho ba ba nang le tse dintsintsi. bogole, sekaseka kgang e rraetsho. Fa motho a sa bone Rraetsho, mma ke lebogele gore Ipelegeng e tokafaditswe, jaaka go na le bangwe kwa kgaolong ya Karakubis, a jaanong bana le bagolo ba ba mo Ipelegeng, e ya go ba foufetse a na le 12 years a bo a supa gore ke na le bogole, go bo gotwe a mme o kgona go ikisa kwa ntlwaneng, a thusa ka capacity building. Go raya gore e tlaa re ba bo a re ee. Go bo gotwe nnyaa, mme kana go raya gore tswa mo Ipelegeng, ba bo ba ithutile sengwe se ba ka fa o ntse jalo o na le bokgoni, o monalebogole yo o nang itshetsang ka sone, segolo jang ka gore re tsweletse by le bokgoni. Bokgoni go tewa eng? A tau fa e ka tsena mo maintaining public infrastructure le cluster fencing le lelwapeng o tlaa bona kwa a sielang teng? Nnyaa, a go go baakanya maobo a Dikgotla. Ke sengwe se e leng sekasekiwe dikgang tse. gore yo o dirang, e tlaa re a tswa gone foo, a bo a na le kitso nngwe e a e setseng. Ke wela ka kgang ya dikgaolo Mr Chairperson. Decentralisation Policy ke mogopolo wa Fronta wa Rraetsho Molale, go sale ka go dirwa promises tsa bogologolo, o o mo dibukeng tsa bo Social Democratic decentralisation e ke tlhokanang le gore ke itse time Party (SDP) le Pamphlet Number 1. Fa e le gore le a frame ya gore dikhansele di ya go fiwa dithata leng, ka o amogela Rre Molale, le o amogetse e bile re tswa ba rotlhe re lemoga botlhokwa jwa gore di fiwe dithata. kgakala re re le o amogele, nnyaa, re a le leboga. A Fa di fiwa dithata, di tlaabo le tsone di dira ditiro, di le o tsenye le o berekise, o kgone go berekela batho. itse gore di na le time frame ka gore ke bone ba ba e Chairpersons tsa dikhansele re batla gore di tlhophiwe tsamaisang ba na le full independence. ke batho, ba se ka ba tlhophiwa ke Makhanselara. E nngwe ke gone go dira gore thulaganyo yotlhe ya Rraetsho, ke wela ka kgang ya ditsela tse di yang khansele e bewe ka maranyane kana mo re ka reng kwa settlements; settlements tsa kgaolo ya me, tsa digitalisation, e ka yone e yang go thusa gore ditiro di dikgaolo tse di farologaneng kwa Kweneng, Kgalagadi bo dirwa ka time frame le tsone. Fa o ka lemoga maloba le dikgaolo tse di tshwanang le Boteti le Ngamiland. ka lockdown go tshwanetse gore go thusiwe batho,

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khansele e ne e tshwere bothata jwa go batla dipalo tsa di boelele, di dire gape. Re se ka ra lebelela gore re batho le gore batlhoki ba kae. E ne ya nna yone tiro mme ntsha madi a a kae. Re tshwanetse re lebelele maduo nako yone eo batho ba tsweletse ba bolawa ke tlala. Fa a a dirwang ke tiro e. Ke dumalana le wena Rraetsho re ne re na le information mo diatleng tsa rona re dirisa Moatlhodi gore a bana ba ba Scorpion ba boele mo internet ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng, dipalo tseo di ka tirong, ka gore go botlhokwa gore ba dire jalo. Labofelo bo di le teng, services tsa tsena kwa bathong mo nakong madi a re tlaa reng re a baya re re hei! ga go na madi, e e tshwanetseng, e khutshwane. ga re ka ke ra dirisa madi a mantsi, kgantele re ya go a dirisa mo go eng batho ba tlhokafetse botlhe? Se sengwe go tlhokafala gore re tokafatse (improve) social protection services. Re ntse re di dira re ntsha Fa o ka lebelela gape Rraetsho Molale, o lebelele batho mo lehumeng. Kana fa o ka lebelela, COVID-19 e Minister yo ke go tlotlang thata gore, kwa dikhanseleng dira gore go dirwe ditshekatsheko tse dintšha, go bonwe go na le two authorities tse di lebaganeng le kgang ya gore ba ba ntseng re re ba na le informal businesses, re motlakase, so ga re ka ke ra nna le programme that is ba sekaseke sesha ka gore bontsi jwa bone have been run by two different authorities. Re na le Botswana affected, they are no longer in business. Ba e leng gore Power Corporation (BPC) le Khansele, fa o lebelela ba re re mo business, le gone maduo a teng a go nna mo dikgang tsa street lights, o fitlhela e le gore street lights business ga ba a bone. Sone seo se tshwanetse gore o tse dingwe di mo BPC, tse dingwe Khansele. Khansele oketse staff gore go tle go dirwe tshekatsheko lefatshe financesgore BPC should maintain. BPC tiro ya yone ga lotlhe. se to finance, it is to maintain streetlights tse di welang under BPC. Ke re gone mo go tlhokana le gore Khansele Fa o ka ya kwa Francistown go tlhomola pelo, ba ba e fiwe madi a a lekaneng, e tseye dipone tse di nne fa reng ba on businesses, the informal sector, o tlaa fitlhela tlase ga bone, ba kgone to finance and maintain them. motho a beile ditamati tse pedi, dipotata tse pedi le Fa o ka lebelela gompieno, go lefifi kwa Francistown. onion e nngwe fela, a re ke tlhola koo ke tlhola ke le on Go lefifi fela thata, mme go bakiwa ke gorewe have two business. authorities running the same programme. Go na le go Jaanong COVID-19 has affected thata the informal thulathulana gone foo. Jaanong sone seo se ka re thusa sector. Kana toropo ya Francistown e tshela ka informal fela thata go baakanya diphoso tseo. sectors, mme seo re tshwanetse re ele tlhoko gore re The road levy, e ile kae Honourable Molale? Ke batla go dire ditshekatsheko tse disha. Ba re ntseng re re re ba tlhaloganya gore road levy e ile kae ka gore road levy e file madi a go ba ntsha mo lehumeng, re bone gore ne e thusa thata go baakanya ditsela, segolo jang ditsela a dikgwebo tsa bone di a dira ka fa go tshwanetseng tsa Francistown, tse di feletsweng ke nako. Bontsi jwa ka teng. Ke seemo se se tlhomolang pelo. Toropo ya internal roads tsa Francistown di feletswe ke nako, Francistown e kwa tlase, go go setlha. Go go setlha mme go botlhokwa gore the road levy e bo e thusa go rraetsho, ministry wa gago ka gore ke one o o kwa nna e baakanya potholes. Ke potholes mo the second bathong, ra re batho pele, o tshwanetse gore o ye go dira city o kare o tsamaya mo legaeng. The second city e tshekatsheko e e tletseng ya go bona gore livelihood ya setse e gaisiwa ke metsana e e dirilweng dikonotere, batho ba Francistown e ntse jang, ka gore go botlhokwa kwa Francistown go potholes gongwe le gongwe. Itse gore re fetole ka fa ba tshelang ka teng. gore businesses are affected fa ditsela di le potholes. DiScorpion, bana ba ba neng ba hirilwe go thusa thata Go dira traffic e e itiretsweng, e ka nako eo motho a maScorpion le Safety and Health Officer(SHE ) officers, ka bong a le kwa tirong, jaanong you spend nako e ntsi dodging potholes, gape dikoloi di eme ka gore ditsela ke dumalana le Honourable Moatlhodi ka bongwe ga di tsamaege. Seo re tshwanetse gore re se lebelele fela jwa pelo gore ba direlwe extension. Why? bana thata ka gore it affects the life ya business ya toropo ya ba go supagala gore tiro ya bone ba ne ba e dira ka Francistown. It affects gape go oketsa unemployment, bonokopila. Sepodise se ne se fokoditse tiro ya to police because fa businesses di sa tswelele sentle, ga di hire masking. Gape ba dirile gore le kwa dikhansele go nne jaanong, di ntsha babereki mo tirong ka gore ga ba dire motlhofo, ba tsamaye mo dijarateng, mo diseterateng ba dipoelo. rotloetse batho go dirisa masks. So go botlhokwa fela thata fa re santse re lwantsha bolwetse jwa COVID- 19. E nngwe rraetsho e re neng re tshwanetse gore re e Re tshwanetse re itse gore… di system tse re di dirisang lebelele thata ke ya storm water drainage. Fa ke le let us evaluate them, fa re lemoga gore di bereka sentle Mayor wa Francistown ka bo 2007 go ne ga dirwa

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a storm water drainage master plan, ke toropo ya Modulasetilo, National Social and Protection Recovery Francistown. Le letsatsi leno the draft is lying there ga Plan, ke sengwe se re se amogelang fela thata. Se tlaa re e diragadiwe. Kana dipula kwa Francistown fa di na thusa gore re kgone go bona gore re ka bona Batswana ngwaga le ngwaga go nna le merwalela e ke dumelang jang, ra ba thusa ba ba tlhokang thuso mo go rona. E gore ke ya maitirelo ka gore, plan ya master storm water bile se se ka re thusa segolobogolo ...(Inaudible)… the drainage fa e ka bo e diragaditswe re ka bo re sena National Social Protection Clinic e go dirwang gore bothata jo re bo bonang. Ke batla go tlhaloganya gore re nne le single social registry. Go tlaa thusa gore go madi a tlaa tla leng to finance master plan storm water lwantshiwe dilo tse di tshwanang double dipping le tse drainage ya Francistown? dingwe. Ka go nna jalo go tlaa thusa gore Batswana ba thusege botoka, mme ke mo lebogele selo sa go nna jalo. Ke tlhalositse rraetsho gore go botlhokwa go itse gore go tlaa diragala tiro eo leng. Ministry o o botlhokwa go Modulasetilo, re lebogele Tona gore a bo a buile ka kgang itse gore… like I said, ministry o ke the mother ministry ya Ipelegeng, we are remaining hopeful kwa Tati East, wa ga Goromente, mme dilo dingwe fa di sa diriwe gore Ipelegeng o mosha o tlaa nna mo tirong sentle. All gone it delays progress in development tsa ministries tse those guidelines di tswele kwa ntle batho ba itse gore go dingwe. a go dirisiwa Ipelegeng jang gore Batswana ba kgone to benefit mo teng. We remain very hopeful gore Ipelegeng The Motions and resolutions tsa dikhansele o kare ga di o o tlaa re thusa mo mathateng a re nang le one, a e tsewe tsia. Mme ka gore ministry wa gago Rre Molale leng gore public facilities fa o ya kwa dikgaolong tsa ke one o dirang the oversight ya dikhansele, ke kopa Tati East bontsi jwa tsone di makgasa. Modulasetilo the gore go nne le thuso e le e dirang as a ministry, le dira review ya Ipelegeng e fa go ka selwa guidelines sentle, batho ba e leng gore are responsible gore ba e tsamaise, oversight le bona gore a resolutions and Motions tse di ba di tlhaloganya sentle, e tlaa re thusa fela thata gore re dirwang kwa khanseleng di a diragadiwa. Ministries kgone to solve mathata a a ntseng jalo. are not responding to Motions and resolutions tse di dirwang mo dikhanseleng. Jaanong o ka ipotsa gore We have trained youth mo brigades, vocational trainings tsa rona, ba ba ntseng kwa magaeng, ba re ka ba dirisang nako e e tsewang e ntsintsi e gotweng dikhansele di tsena fela thata gore ba kgone go dira ditiro tse ke sa tswang mo full councils, resolutions le Motions tsa teng fa di sa go di bua tse Mr Chairperson. diragadiwe why spend nako e ntsi e e kalokalo go na le sitting allowance mme go sa diragadiwe ditshwetso Sengwe se e leng gore ke se lebogela thata e bile tse di tsewang? Re dumela gore local governance e ka ke rotloetse gore se dirwe ka bonako, ke Project thusa thata mo go tlhabololeng… Coordinator ya Ipelegeng le the Constituency Community Programmes. Ke sengwe se go ntseng go MINISTER OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, na le ketsaetsego ka dikgang tsa go nna jaana. O fitlhela RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY go sa itsege sentle gore mang ke mang fa go tla kwa (DR LETSHOLATHEBE): Thank you very much dikgakololong. Modulasetilo. Ke go leboge Modulasetilo go mpha Fa ke bua ka Constituency Community Programmes; tshono eno go bua ka ministry o o botlhokwa, Constituency Fund, ke nngwe ya tse re tlhokanang segolobogolo rona ba re tswang kwa dikgaolong. Ke le gore re e lebalebe. Re lebogele dikhansele ka gore leboge Tona ka pego ya gagwe, e bile ke leboge le ba di re thusa go e tsamaisa, mme a e tsamaisiwe sentle; North East District Council, the staff sa koo ka tirisanyo information e ye kwa bathong gore ba kgone go e ntle re berekang mmogo, ka e le batho ba botlhokwa. tlhaloganya. Makhanselara ke baeteledipele ba ba Our National Development Plan (NDP) e tswa kwa tlase dirisanyang le batho koo, mme maloba e ne ya re ke e ya kwa godimo, ke bone ba ba kopanang le Batswana, rerisana le bone kwa kgaolong, bontsi jwa bone ba lela ka gore ga ba tlhaloganye gore madi a bone a di ba tsaya dikakanyo ba di tlisa kwa go rona. ke re ke ba chenchi… ba ne ba bua ka kgang ya di chenchi gore fa leboge. Ke lebogele Tona to talk about the food basket, madi a setse, ga ba itse gore go ka tswa go setse bokae gore o ne a lebelela, a bona gore mathata e ka tswa e ne e gore ba kgone go ka tsweledisa mo projects tse dingwe. le eng, mme se se tlaa re thusa gore go yeng pele re tlaa O ne o lemoga fela gore ke lack of communication. seke re nne le mathata a go nna jalo. Ke go leboge, ke Hopefully, the Coordinator o tlaa thusa dikgang tsa go sengwe se se tlaa re thusang fela thata, kana Batswana nna jaana because madi a Constituency Fund a thusa ba ne ba lela fela thata ka kgang e ya food basket. fela thata mo go tokafatseng dithuso kwa magaeng.

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Internal roads Modulasetilo; re leboge Tona gore ke le monana o mmeile foo, yo mongwe a lebagane le ba utlwile a ama kgang ya internal roads. Ke sengwe se e Ipelegeng o mmeile in a satellite office, fa a na le laptop, leng a big challenge. Sengwe se se neng sa ntira gore ke it is a moving office. Go ka thusa batho, e bo e le gore nne uncomfortable, ke gore ke ne ke utlwa o kare o bua dingwe tse a sa kgoneng go di dira, ke tsone tse a ka di gore in big villages. If I can just quote some part of that, fetisetsang kwa pele. Let us look at that and move away o ne a re “in major villages, towns and cities.” Rona kwa from kgang ya brick and mortar and see if we cannot bo Tati East ga re na bo major villages, towns and cities, utilise the space we have and distribute bana ba rona mme internal roads tsa rona ke mathata. Maloba ke ne ke gore ba re thuse. dikologa kwa kgaolong go sa tsamaege. Metse e tshwana le bo Matshelagabedi, Tati Siding le Themashanga, go Accommodation ya badirelapuso kwa kgaolong; we ne go sa tsamaega Modulasetilo ka gore internal roads have a challenge. I appreciate that councils try to help tsa teng ke mathata fela. Ke sengwe se a tshwanetseng mme fela mathata a rona a santse a le matona. Sengwe go se lebelela gore a se akaretse mo dikgannyeng tsa se re se itseng ke gore Batswana ga ba rate thata go rona gore o ka re thusa jang. Constituency Fund can berekela kwa dikgaolong. Fa ba tsena ba fitlhela go sena help mme fela lemme la teng le lennye. boroko, ke yone excuse; motho o a tshaba a re, ‘ga ke sa tlhole ke ka berekela kwa Butale kana Senyawe ka gore Go tsamaelana le kgang ya internal roads ke storm ga ke na boroko.’ Re tshwanetse go tsholetsa dinao go water drainage mo dikgaolong tsa rona. There is poor bona gore re ka thusa jang. Re lebelele le tsone LA2s storm water drainage mo dikgaolong tsa rona. Fa o re tse di agiwang tse tse di thusang, even costing on them. o a tsamaya fa dipula di nele ke mathata fela. Bo Tati Re lebelele gore bonnyennyane jo re nang le jone ka Siding nnyaa, e nna dinoka gongwe le gongwe fela. tota re itse go sena madi re bone gore mme they are Dinako tsa dipula o fitlhela e le gore tota ke mathata. properly costed gore re bone gore re dira jang ka boroko Le bo poor street lighting, ga re itse gore tota re ba ga jwa badirelapuso, Modulasetilo. mang ka gore o fitlhela go le lefifiand rona ba re tswang go bapa le borders o fitlhelacrime e kwa godimo. Tona, Dikgosi, Councillors and VDCs Modulasetilo; ke ke kopa gore re lebe seemo se mmogo re bone gore re bangwe that you have mentioned Tona fa o simolola ka thusana jang. gore ba botlhokwa in your ministry. Let us engage them even more Modulasetilo and empower them. I cannot Modulasetilo, Decentralisation Policy, ke sengwe se se be specific on each and every one. Bangwe ka nna ba sa long overdue. Ke go leboge ka gore maloba e rile re tswa go bua ka bone ka dikatso le mo gongwe. Sengwe ngunanguna ka utlwa e le gore o tsamaya le dikhansele se ke tsayang gore you can empower them with is o bua ka ga yone. A e tle re tle re bone gore re a e fetisa information. Those are the people ba ba berekisanang le mo Palamenteng. Ke sengwe se se ka re thusang fela batho kwa gae gantsi. So, fa re ka ba neela information thata, re sale re se emetse. Se tlaa re thusa go tokafatsa fela thata, ba ka thusa Batswana ka bonako. (improve) service e re ka e isang kwa bathong. Re tsamaelana le dikgang tsa dithuso kwa Tati East. Sengwe se se ka tswang se re utlwisa botlhoko thata kwa kgaolong ya rona kwa Tati East ke go tlhomiwa Kgang e e tshwanang le ya sub-district e tlaa re thusa ga Dikgosana. Go sale go nna le diphatlha tse ka go Modulasetilo. Batlhophi ba ne ba tswa kwa bo Matopi, tlhokang lesego ra tlogelwa ke ba ba neng ba le foo, Shashe Bridge le bo Patayamatebele, kgakala fela kwa, mme ga di thibiwe jaaka kwa metseng e tshwana le bo ba tlola Francistown ba ya kwa Masunga. O fitlhela e le Mowana, Matshelagabedi le ba bangwe kwa Matsiloje. gore batho ba Modimo dilo dingwe tse ba neng ba ka di O buile ka botlhokwa jwa Bogosi Tona. A ko o lebalebe kgona, ba felela ba ineela ka gore tota go kgakala. Fa o gore kgang e e dirwa ka bonako to improve our service ne o ka lebaleba gore gongwe go dirwe sub-district the delivery. Batho ba ba dira tiro e ntle. Ke sengwe se re other side of the railway line mo kgaolong ya Tati East. tshwanetseng go se tsibogela. Se se ka itumedisa Batswana ba Tati East fela thata. Unemployment; yes, it is a challenge Tona. Ke go Gongwe sengwe se ke batlang go se bua ke kgang ya leboge gore o ne wa re kopanya, wa re bitsa le Tona wa digitalisation. O buile ka yone, it can really help. In the Agriculture Honourable Rre Gare, mme ra tla re buisana meantime, re na le diholo tse o fitlhelang di le foo di ka sengwe se e leng gore it was really …(inaudible)… sa dirisiwe. Nowadays, ga go sa tlhole go tlhokana le my ears. Sengwe se ke tsayang gore fa re ka se nnela brick and mortar. Fa o tshotse laptop ya gago, go na fa fatshe re ka thusa Batswana gore ba ye kwa pele gore

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ba thuse unemployment e e tletseng e. Kgang e o neng ya tsa ntlha mo lefatsheng la Botswana, bogolo thata o bua ka yone ya the natural resources, ke sengwe se mo borwa mme gompieno jaana ga go supagale. Ke Batswana ba ka ithusang ka sone. It will go a long way ne ke ipotsa gore gatwe golo fa fela sentlentle batho ba to help the people in the rural areas to make ends meet Mabutsane Sub, ba leofile go le kae, ba dirile eng se Tona. Ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng go se lebaleba, re se sa bolelweng? Batho ba ba tsamae ba ye go kopa tswelele. Le nna ka kwano ke buisanya ba the ministry maitshwarelo kwa go yo ba mo foseditseng gore le bone le research centres gore ba tle ba thuse. I was so happy ba tle ba siamelwe mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Ba tle maloba fa ke le kwa Tsamaya ke fitlhela e le gore there ba itse gore fa ba kgetha, ba kgetha gore makgetho a a is a committee e e thamilweng e e yang go dira (deal) le ba berekele. natural resources. Batswana ba tswa Goo-lowe ba itse gore dilo tsa bone tsa tlholego ba ka di somarela jang. Ke sone fela se ke neng ke tsaya gore gompieno le rona Sumbe e ne e itsiwe gore fa phane e tsamaya fa fatshe mo ETRP, re ka bo re le bangwe ba re leng beneficiaries ga e tshwarwe ka gore ke yone peo. Ke sengwe se re ka tsa teng. Ke e fete e ntse jalo. se dirisang Tona gore re kgone go ba thusa. E ke ratang go go leboga mo go yone, ke e o neng o supa Digital transformation; re lebogele di nnetlane tse o gore projects di tlaabo di tlhokometswe ke the local yang go di tsenya kwa Dikgotleng. A di dirisiwe di authorities. Re na le mathata a gore batho ba ministry thuse banana gore ba kgone go dira dikgwebo tsa bone ba gotweng ke ba technical, ba na le go ipeela projects Tona. Ke a go leboga, Modulasetilo. Thank you very mo lephateng fa, sa bone e bo e le go di aba (award), go much. tsweng foo supervision e bo e sa nne yone, ba dikhansele ba bo ba sa batle to interfere, ka gore golo moo go na le MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable mowa wa di ...(Inaudible)… o o feteletseng fa projects Minister. Honourable Reatile, you have six minutes. di leng teng. Kgang e e tshwanetse gore e emelwe ka MR REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): dinao, e kgalwe go sa kgwe mathe, bogodu bo bontsi Tanki Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, mma ke go fa projects di leng teng. Dikgang tse fa re tshwanetse lebogele sebaka se o se mphileng se gore le nna ke go bua ka tsone re bo re oshaosha, lefatshe le le tsile akgele mo ya ga Tona Molale e a e re beileng go nyelela, mafatshe otlhe a tsile go re feta. Re tsile go pele. Ke simolole fela ka gore re utlwile Tona le ka fa nna nngwe ya histories tse go tlaa rutiwang ka tsone mo o ikaeletseng go tla go tsweledisa madi a a a kopang Africa gotwe, go kile ga nna le lefatshe gotwe Botswana, a mo ngwageng o wa madi ka teng. Ke simolole fela lefatshe le le ne le itekanetse mo itsholelong, le ne la ke re Honourable Molale, re go utlwile. Ke simolole nyelela re sa itse gore gatwe le nyeleditswe ke eng, mme ka go supa ditlhobaelo tsa me ka mabaka a gore madi le nyeleditswe ke batho ba ba tshwereng projects and a Economic Transformation Recovery Plan (ETRP) a procurement. P800 million a o supileng gore o tlaabo o a dirisa nako Mr Chairperson, kgang e nngwe ke batlang go fetela mo e re neng re dira Mid-Term Review ya NDP 11 mo go yone ke ya gore Honourable Molale re utlwile a bua ngwageng o wa madi, ngwaga o o tlang o supa gore o ka madi a P23 million, a a yang go leka go tlhabolola ne o na le kopo ya gore mo ETRP o tlaa dirisa madi a a diofisi tsa makgotla le gore go tlaa nna le maranyane kana ka P500 million ka ngwaga wa 2022/2023, mo go teng koo. Honourable Molale, ke tlaa tswelela ke yone e Honourable Molale, ka go ne go rulaganya (plan) ntse ke baya dikai, re na le bo 13 years re sa bolo go wena, ga go tshwane le the original plan e o e fitlhetseng solofediwa gore ofisi ya Mabutsane ya ga Kgosi, e ya e re neng re e sekaseka (reviewing), mo ETRP, ke ne ke go godisiwa, e beetswe P5 million fa thoko. Go tla le dumela gore e ka bo e rile o tsena ka talente le bokgoni gompieno, ga go ope yo o umakang, ga go ope yo o jo o bonang najo, o ka bo o ne o netefaditse gore dikgang tse neng di tshwana le jaaka o ne o tsaya madi batlang go gadima, e bile ga go ope yo le toro ya teng e e a o ya go dira ditsela kwa bo Tlokweng, Mogoditshane, etleng e kgabole mo go ene go tswa ka kwa lephateng la ke kgang e ntle thata, mme gone fa Morolong fa, o ne o gagwe. Ke ipotsa gore la re batho ba ba leofile go le kae, tshwanetse gore le rona re le ba Mabutsane Sub-District ba dirile eng, ba diretse mang eng se se bosula? Ba ye go re ka bo re kgonne go bonala re dumela gore ETRP re ikopa maitshwarelo. Ke batho ba ba ka se keng ba nna nna bangwe ba beneficiaries tsa teng ka mabaka a gore mongala, ba ka ya go ikopa maitshwarelo mo go yo ba o a itse, o mosupi gore sub-district ya rona ke nngwe mo foseditseng. Ga ke itse gore mathata a rona ke eng.

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Honourable Molale, o ne wa tsaya tshwetso e ntle Selo se sengwe Modulasetilo ke re, ka gore nako ya go ya gore o godise metse ya Mahotshwane, Kutuku fetola ga e kalokalo, se re tlaa se dirang, as part of the le Kanaku e nne le Dikgosi. Ke ne ke tsaya gore mo feedback, ke gore dintlha tse tsotlhe tse di ntshitsweng fa, budget ya gompieno, o tlaabo o bolela gore jaanong o re di arabe ka mokwalo re tle re di neele Mapalamente. ba batletse madi, a o yang go ba agela diofisi, ba tle Bontsi jwa tsone ke dumalana le tsone, sebe sa phiri fela ba nne le bakwaledi ba ba feletseng. Ke Dikgosi tse ba ke gore tse dingwe tse di builweng, jaaka bo Rre Lucas santseng ba tshela jaaka bo Ramakgotla, ba nna fela ba ne ba bua, ke tse re di kwadileng mo, go bo go nthaya fa tlase ga setlhare foo, ga gona ofisi e ba berekelang gore e re ntswa re lekile go ntsha mokwalo ka nako gore mo go yone. Ba Mahotshwane ba ne ba nna lesego, ka rotlhe re bale, go lebega bangwe ba sa bala. O fitlhela gore kompone ya Debswana e ba agetse ofisi. Se se o kare fa re boa re ya go araba dilo tse di setseng di tlhaelang fa Motlotlegi Molale ke gore, re netefatse gore arabilwe ke speech, e bo e kete jaanong re ja nako fa go ba Mahotshwane ba nne le koloi ka kwa Kgotleng e e sa tshwanelang. felelang e thusa, ka gore Mahotshwane o ka kwa thoko e bile o phatlaletse ka gore o tletse mo dipolaseng tse Le fa go ntse jalo, ke simolole ke sena go le leboga dintsi. batlotlegi ke re, re le utlwile. Fa go ne go tsamaya sentle, le nna madi a ke a filweng gompieno kgotsa a ke a kopang Se sengwe se ke neng ke batla gore o se nthuse Tona, a, a ka bo a okeditswe thata fela ka fa keletsong ya me. itse gore kgang e ya inclusiveness, e gompieno re e Jaaka Rre Moatlhodi a ne a bua, fa re e fa the Scorpions rerang mo Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) a e dikonteraka ka gore maloba go ne ga nna le kgang ya supafale, leave no one behind. Fa re bua ka bo Kanaku the Scorpions, ra bo re tsaya madi a a neng e le a go le Kutuku, ke yone metse e mebedi e e leng ya Basarwa okeletsa dikomiti ka Botswana jotlhe, re ba tsenyetsa mo Kgaolong ya ga Ngwaketse. Mme fa re ka nna le matsananyana gore lemme le nne le tokafale, re bo re a Dikgosi mo Kutuku le Kanaku, re bo re palelwa ke gore tsaya re a isa koo. Fa o tsaya ka fa o isa ka kwa, o bula mo metseng ya rona ya Basarwa, re ipetse sehuba re bo phatlha ka fa, mme re ntse re itse gore one madi ga a yo, re ipelafatse go bona re ba agetse diofisi, ba Tribal le bogolo jang mo sebakeng se sa gompieno se re nang le bone ba ba agetse maroko a bakwaledi ba Kgotla, ba COVID-19 e e re apesitseng kobo ka letshoba. Jaanong, tshela sentle, ke dilo tse di ngomolang pelo. the Scorpions di ka nna ultimately a budgetable item, but jaaka ke ne ka tlhalosa fa re le kwa Boipuso Hall, Mo Khakhea, re na le primary school, e tletse. Re kopa primary school ya bobedi mo motseng wa Khakhea ga di ise di nne a budgetable item. Ke sone se re neng Tona. Re e age ka kwa ga motse, ka gore e nngwe ele ra dira tsela e ya gore jaanong re tseye kwa, one project e setse senwelo sa yone se penologa. Go tlaabo go le had to be forgone, to make sure that the Scorpions di a maleba gore tota e re mo bogaufing, o bo o re batletse hirwa. Go ya pele, politically it will be a good thing, but primary school ya bobedi mo motseng wa Khakhea budget wise ke mathata. We have to make choices here, motlotlegi. and these choices must reflect the way we wish to do things, and to see things done. Jaanong, ke ne ke re... Nnyaa, Honourable Moatlhodi, ga se gore ga re itse, ka MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Reatile, thank fa ke bonang dilo ka teng, motse wa Semotswane re ne you very much. I will now call upon the Honourable ra bua, jaaka le wena o buile, mme go na le dilo dingwe Minister to reply to the debate. tse ke neng ka go tlhalosetsa ka tsone gore re tshwanetse ra di sala morago. Fa go dirwa State of Emergency MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND (SoE), ga go a ka ga seegiwa (waive) kana suspend RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Ke melao mengwe, mengwe wa yone ke wa Bogosi, ga o a a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke a itumela ka gore go seegiwa. Bogosi Act e a bua gore, fa go tlhomiwa Kgosi, bua ga me ka bokhutshwane, go letile gore go bue bo Honourable ba ka tshwara nine mo nakong e e neng morafe o tshwanetse wa tla mo Kgotleng wa tla go e ba saletse. Ke itumela gape ka gore, se ba se buang, tlhoma Kgosi ka tsela e e buiwang ke molao. Gompieno mo go nna ke se tsaya e le feedback ya gore fa dilo fa e kare COVID-19 e le on, ra bo re re go tle ba le 50, di sa diragaleng teng sentle, ke tle ke leke go tsiboga. re tlaabo re iphetlhela ditsheko, jaaka re setse re na le Ordinarily, Mapalamente ke one matlho a Puso a ditsheko tse dingwe tsa fa go neng go sena COVID-19 matona, ba ba lebang dilo gore ba tle ba di baakanye, teng. Jaanong fa re dira ka nako ya COVID-19, re a di bogolo jang ka e le bone ba ba rebolang madi. oketsa. Ke jone bothata jo re nang le jone joo.

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Re ka hira Magosi a Tetlanyo fa madi a ne a le teng. O a MR T. B. LUCAS (BOBONONG): asked the Minister gakologelwa Mopalamente yo o tlotlegang gore pele ba of Local Government and Rural Development to state: ne ba sa duelwe gotlhelele, mme gompieno ba a duelwa, mme e se salary, e le go ba tshuhisa gore tiro ya bone re (i) the total number of Remote Area Dwellers a e lemoga e bile re a e atla… (RADs) children who have benefitted from the special dispensation programme for admission into tertiary MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Molale, it is now institutions in each district since its inception; just past 1 o’clock, let us adjourn for lunch and try to be back at 2 o’clock. Thank you very much. (ii) the total number of who successfully graduated from their programme of study in each of the districts; PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1:00 P.M. FOR APPROXIMATELY 1 HOUR (iii) the number of RADS children who successfully graduated and were able to find jobs in each of the PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2:00 P.M. districts; and

MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Honourable (iv) the number of RADS children who graduated in Members, let us resume our business of today with Lepokole, Robelela, Tshokwe and Damochujena in the questions. Bobirwa Sub-District and the number who found job placement through the affirmative action programme in QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER the above mentioned villages.

ELECTRIFICATION OF MAJWANAADIPITSE ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL VILLAGE GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT MR B. MATHOOTHE (SEROWE NORTH): asked (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Speaker, thank the Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology you Honourable Lucas for the question. and Energy Security when Majwanaadipitse village in (i) Mr Speaker, the total number of Remote Area Serowe North Constituency will be electrified. Development Programme (RADP) beneficiaries, MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES, GREEN who benefit from the special dispensation TECHNOLOGY AND ENERGY SECURITY (MR programme for admission into tertiary institutions MOAGI): Thank you Mr Speaker and good afternoon. since its inception in 2010 stands at 2, 389. This Mr Speaker, the assessment for both network extensions consists of 156 from Ghanzi, Central District in electrified villages and new village electrification is 894, Southern 318, Kgatleng 21, Kgalagadi 163, carried out on an annual basis. Electrification of villages Kweneng 550 and North West District with 287. is an ongoing phased approach or programme under (ii) Mr Speaker, the total number of those who which un-electrified villages such as Majwanaadipitse successfully graduated from their programmes are considered for electrification alongside other of study in each of the districts is 1, 416, with 60 villages. at Ghanzi, Central District at 775, Southern 285, Mr Speaker, the pace of electrification is dependent on Kgatleng 17, Kgalagadi 102, Kweneng 38 and the availability of resources, and not all villages can be North West 139. electrified at the same time,ce hen the phasing of the (iii) The number of RADP beneficiaries who project. Majwanaadipitse village was budgeted for in successfully graduated and were able to find jobs the current financial year, but hasnot yet been successful in each of these districts is as follows; Ghanzi due to budgetary allocations, and shall be considered 34, Central District 734, Southern 285, Kgatleng along with others for electrification in subsequent 5, Kgalagadi 20, Kweneng 10, North West 39, financial periods. I have got a list of all those villages making a total of 1, 161. The overall employment here together le bo Mokgware jalojalo and those shall number of 1, 161 over the total number of 1, form the lineup for the next financial year. I thank you 461 who graduated successfully represent an Mr Speaker. employment rate of 82 per cent. The rest of the SPECIAL DISPENSATION PROGRAMME FOR graduates have either gone for further studies or RADS CHILDREN are unemployed.

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(iv) The number of RADP beneficiaries who MR HIKUAMA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr graduated from Lepokole, Robelela, Tshokwe Speaker. Tona, ke a leboga. Re lebogela karabo. Fa le and Damochujena in the Bobirwa Sub-District kgonne go neela bana ba le 2 389 diphatlha, go bo go and the number who found job placements aloga ba le 1 460, a lephata la lona le ne la sekaseka through the Affirmative Action Programme in mabaka a a dirang gore ba se ka ba atlega ka dipalo tse the above mentioned villages are as follows; di kwa godimo? Lepokole, number of those who graduated is 30, those who found placements is 12, Robelela, Sa bobedi, potso eo o e arabile, mme ga ke ise ke utlwe graduates 15, those who found placements is 4, sentle gore ba ba 139 ba ba kgonneng go aloga sentle, Tshokwe is 23 and 21, Damochujena graduates 14, ba ba boneng ditiro, a ga le bone gore go ya kwa pele, le with 8 placements, making a total of 82 and 45 tshwanetse gore le le lephata that deals le bone, le nne respectively Mr Speaker. I thank you. le diphatlha that are reserved gore ba tsene? Ba se ka ba aloga ba bo ba nna kwa ntle, e le part of the affirmative MR LUCAS: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mokgomong. action. Ke a leboga. A mme lona le le ba Ministry wa Local Government, le MR MODUKANELE: Potso ya ntlha o ne o re na le policy e le e dirisang go batlela bana ba settlements makgwere e nnile eng gore this 82 per cent could who graduated ditiro? Ke lemoga gore fa o lebile have been hired, wa ba ba alogileng; I think you are kwa Lepokole, those who graduated ba 30, mme ba saying that. Mabaka a farologanye Mopalamente yo o ba kgonneng go bona ditiro ba 12, gone moo it is less tlotlegang why go nna jaana. Ke sengwe se e leng gore than 50 per cent. A le na le thulaganyo epe fela e e we continuously review and evaluate go bona gore what faphegileng, e e kwadilweng ya affirmative action mo interventions can be made to make sure kwa bofelong go batleleng graduates ditiro? jwa letsatsi, bana ba kgona dithuto tsa bone ka dipalo tse di fa godingwana go na le tse re nang le tsone fa. Ya bobedi Tona ke gore, go a lemosega gore bana ba ba tswang from the settlements, bontsi jwa bone ba na Two; the question you are asking ke gore, as part of the le bothata jwa gore fa ba bone ditiro mo mafelong a a affirmative action, why do we not reserve spaces for rileng, fa gongwe ba kokonelwa ke go nna koo. A mme them; really, as much as one wishes, that is possible and go na le thulaganyo epe ya gore fa e le gore tiro e teng that is what we wish. Kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi, it is kwa tšhabeng e ba tswang mo go yone, ba ka batlelwa a function ya gore a mme gone diphatlha di teng mo ditiro mo mafelong one ao gore e nne bone gape ba nnetlaneng which we may not necessarily have all the ba tlhabololang batsadi ba bone ka bogaufi gape ba time Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. tlhaloganya culture ya bone? Ke a leboga Tona. MS MONNAKGOTLA: Supplementary. Good MR MODUKANELE: Thank you Mr Speaker. afternoon Mr Speaker and thank you. Ke botse Tona gore bana ba the settlements ba thusiwa jang ka applications? Tanki Rre Lucas. Mma ke re we probably may not Re ne re le mmogo at the settlements, ba bua gore ba have a written nnetane, but se re se dirang ke gore re na le bothata jwa go bona DailyNews gore ba kgone to leka bojotlhe to assist gore bana ba ba kgone go bona apply. Ke a leboga Tona. ditiro. Potso ya bobedi, yes, boammaaruri ke gore fa go kgonagalang teng, re leka gore ba berekele gone foo MR MODUKANELE: Ke a leboga Honourable ka gore go nna motlhofo mo go bone to relate easily le Monnakgotla. Yes, DailyNews is an issue but for your mafelo a ba tswang mo go one. information, ke phaketse ke bua le lephata le le maleba ka kgang e, for the settlements. Ba solofeditse gore ba Ke ne ke na le Honourable Monnakgotla re bua ka the tlaa e sala morago, just for feedback. same issue over the weekend fa re le kwa Kgalagadi Applications; Honourable Monnakgotla, jaaka o itse, North. A bolela jalo gore, it is always better gore fa ba bana ba work very closely le ba Lephata la Social bona tiro, ba bone mo mafelong a ba tswang mo go one Work. Ke nngwe ya dilo tse e leng gore are part of the ka ba kgona to relate botoka thata. Ba ba ba thusang, ba affirmative action. Re a ba thusa through ba rona ba kgona to relate le bone motlhofo gona le fa ba isitswe social work gore ba ka bona diphatlha kwa go maleba kgakalanyana. I do agree with that observation. Thank motlotlegi. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa you Mr Speaker. Palamente.

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SELLING BUSINESS PLOTS BY CITIZENS measures that discourage the transfer of land to non- citizens. A case in point being the recent amendments MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked the to the Transfer Duty Act Cap. 53:01, which imposes a Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation hefty 30 per cent transfer duty on non-citizen transfers. Services: Furthermore, Mr Speaker, transfers of all tribal land and (i) if there are any measures in place to safeguard the non-tribal agricultural land to non-citizens require the interests and welfare of citizens by disallowing consent of the Minister responsible for Land in terms citizens owning one business plot to sell it of the Tribal Land Act Cap. 32:02 and the Land Control and promoting of leasing rather than selling to Act Cap. 32:11 respectively. Mr Speaker, in considering foreigners; and these applications for consent, I do interrogate whether (ii) to state the ministry’s plan in reviewing laws that leasing rather than selling to a non-citizen is an option. I impede the implementation of intended strategies thank you Mr Speaker. to protect citizens from capital giants. MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Tanki Mr MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER Speaker. Honourable Minister, currently o bua ka AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): Constitution le High Court ruling, mme Constitution Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Government is coming for a review, e bile gape re le Palamente, ke through my ministry’s efforts to protect and promote rona re dirang melao. Potso ke gore, is your ministry the land rights of all land holders, paragraph 69 (iv) amenable gore go ka tsenngwa Ditshutiso tseo mo of the Botswana Land Policy of 2015, had provided Constitutional review fa e tlile fa pele ga Palamente? Re that, “a person will not be allowed to alienate their lebile gore o a dumela le ministry wa gago gore golo mo, last residential plot acquired directly from the Land ammaaruri go rontsha batho. Authority.” The intention was to maintain Government’s Potso ya bobedi ke gore, o bua kgatlhanong le non- effort to empower Batswana through access to land for citizens. Gone mono, re fitlhela benggae ba le diphatsa shelter and as a source of production, and to curb citizen go gaisa ba e seng benggae fa go tla mo go rekeng dispossession and to discourage speculation. lefatshe la batho. A mme ga o bone gore se re se dirang Mr Speaker, the same paragraph was removed from the mo the non-citizens, se ka dirwa le mo the citizens go policy in the Revised Botswana Land Policy of 2019. tokafatsa seemo le go sireletsa lefatshe la batho. Motho The removal of the prohibition followed a Lobatse High fa a ipaya ka ntata ya gore o tseetswe lefatshe, ke selo se Court ruling in case number MAHGB-000566-16 where se botlhoko jaaka o bua. Tanki Mr Speaker. Tlokweng Land Board was the first respondent. The High MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Court ruled that the policy pronouncement was unlawful as it contravened Section 38 of the Tribal Land Act and Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Mo nakong ya gompieno, re unconstitutional as it deprived the beneficiary of their dumalana le tshwetso e e tserweng ke kgotlatshekelo right to transfer property without due compensation. mabapi le kgang e. Re dumalana le bogakolodi jo ba re Based on this precedent, the banning of transfers of last bo neetseng mabapi le gore Molaomotheo wa re, “fa e plots in any land use category remains unlawful. As a le gore motho o na le ditsagagwe, o na le tshwanelo ya ministry, we fully comply with the judgements of the gore a tseye tshwetso gore a dire eng ka tsone.” Go raya Administration of Justice. gore re a dumalana. Mo sebakeng sa gompieno, ga re ka ke ra dumalana le kgang e motlotlegi a e buang. Mr Speaker, I further want to indicate that a large proportion of the transfers have been from Batswana Mo potsong ya bobedi gore a mme re emise transfer; to foreigners, and this has created a situation where o kare fa ke utlwa, motlotlegi a re ka gore mo go non- citizens are actively involved in dispossessing and citizens go na le melawana e e beilweng ya gore ga disempowering themselves. In addition to the above, ba kgone go dira transfer kana ba letlelelwa transfer I would like to add that the decision by the citizens fela ka tetla ya ga Tona, a mme re emise transfers mo to sell their business plots is a business decision, in Batswaneng; ga re dumalane. Re dumalana le kgang ya which Government should not interfere especially in gore Molao-motheo o rile ka gore dithoto ke tsa gago, o a free market economy such as ours. Having said that na le tshwanelo ya gore o dire se o se eletsang ka dithoto Mr Speaker, Government has put in place various legal tsa gago. Ke a leboga.

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RELOCATION OF CLINICS TO THE MINISTRY MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL botse Tona gore, jaaka potso e e neng e botswa ke DEVELOPMENT Honourable Mmolotsi, ke ne ke na le yone ka kwano ke re ke tlaa e mmotsa, mme jaaka o utlwa, o ithatha MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister ka mafoko. A ko re sireletse Batswana Honourable for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Speaker. Fa ke re o ithatha ka mafoko, ke raya ka gore Administration if Government will consider relocating fa a araba a re, ga go na lenaneo lepe la go busetsa clinic clinics back to the Ministry of Local Government and kwa morafeng, mme fa Rre Mmolotsi jaanong a dira Rural Development for improved health care systems at follow-up, o supa gore nnyaa, mme gone ba a sekaseka. districts as was the case before their placement at the O dumalana le Rre Mmolotsi gore gone go a sekasekwa, Ministry of Health and Wellness. mme ba emetse strategic policy. Jaanong golo moo Mr ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL Speaker, a ko o re sireletse mo go gone. AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC Potso ya me ya bobedi ke gore, a mme Tona o a itse ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Mr kana o a lemoga ka letlhoko le le tseneletseng le e leng Speaker, as of now, there are no plans to relocate clinics gore fa e sale clinics di tswa mo dikhanseleng di ya kwa back to the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Central Government, ga go na melemo gotlhelele mo Development. Our commitment as of now is to build dipateleng? Bodiredi le jone bo a tlhaela. E bile gape mo capacity of the health sector without disturbing what godimo ga ya bobedi Mr Speaker, go na le tsenelelo e currently obtains. This is primarily because any change ntšha ya gore baoki ba a betswa, ba a kgamiwa ka gore has to be carefully managed so that it does not have ga go na proper management mo Central Government. adverse impact on the beneficiaries, being our people, Kwa Palapye go setse go kgamilwe baoki, ba bangwe especially now when we are fighting an epidemic that ba tlhabiwa ka dithipa ba ka tshwara bo five Mr Speaker. requires our relentless efforts in our pursuit of winning. A Tona o itse dilo tse? Re mo lemotshe dilo tse gore a kgone go di baakanya. That notwithstanding Mr Speaker, Government is currently working on the Decentralisation Policy Ya bofelo ke gore, a mme Tona o itse ka mo re go bitsang which will provide strategic guidance on public service re re misplacement; kana go tlhoka go hirwa sentle ga baoki, ba ka nako e e rileng ba ithutela tiro ya bone, ba delivery, the health sector included. I thank you Mr bo ba dira Community Health Nurse, e e tsamaelanang le Speaker. community service ya kwa khanseleng. Jaanong e re fa a MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary. Thank you Mr ntse a bua, a supe gore a mme dilo tse o a di itse gore go Speaker. Tona, a mme o a itse gore Tona wa Lephata la na le misplacement gore go baakanngwe se se neng sa diragala? Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Local Government and Rural Development, Rre Molale, o setse a dirile ditsholofetso mo Palamenteng, kgotsa he MR MTHIMKHULU: Ke a go utlwa Honourable has assured Palamente go feta gangwe gore tiro e ya to Ramogapi, mme kana bontsi jwa dipotso tse o di decentralise go isiwa dikokelo kwa dikhanseleng e ya boditseng gompieno, di ne di sa botswa mo potsong go dirwa? ya gago. Ke tlaa tlhoka gore gongwe ke ye go batlisisa ke tle ke boele gape kwa go wena go go fa dikarabo MR MTHIMKHULU: Ee, tota ka boammaaruri e tse di tlhamaletseng. Se ke ka se buang gompieno ke tlile go dirwa, mme kana e ya go dirwa being informed gore, fa e le gore baoki ba betswa ke batho ba ba tswang ke yone Decentralisation Policy e re reng Goromente fela koo, ke molato o ke dumelang gore maphata a ga gompieno o santse a e bopa, gore ke yone e tle e re guide Goromente ba ba lebaneng, ba tlaa tsaya dikgato tse di gore re isa eng sa lephata la ga Goromente kae. Ga re lebaneng gore batho bao ba bewe fa pele ga molao. E batle go isa dilo haphazardly, re batla go di isa go le bile gape ga go na ope yo o ka eletsang gore e re fa batho orderly. Ga se yone fela e e tlaabong gongwe e amiwa ba theogetse, ba bo ba betswa. Go tlaa tsibogwa go bona ke yone Decentralisation Policy, e dirwa mo maphateng gore situations tse di ntseng jalo are addressed gore di a le mantsi. Jaanong Goromente o tshwanetse gore fa se ka tsa boelela gape. a tsaya ditshwetso tse di ntseng jaana, go bo go na le thulaganyo e e siameng, e e tlhapileng. Thank you Mr Tse dingwe Rre Ramogapi jaaka ke ne ke buile; tsa Speaker. go tlhaela ga melemo, ke karabo e ke senang yone

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gompieno fa, di tlaa tlhoka gore ke ye go batlisisa, e bile reka ditsompelo tsone tse di dirang gore ba kgone go gongwe di ka arabiwa botoka ke Minister wa Health ka lema ka ditselana. Potso e ke e boletsa segolobogolo ka ke tsa lephata le le ka fa tlase ga gagwe. Ke lebogile Mr gore ke itse gore ba lephata la ga Mme Manake, ba ne Speaker. ba sa itumelela thata tshwetso e e kileng ya tsewa ke Palamente ya gore balemi ba letlelelwe go lema ba gasa TECHNOLOGY TO MERCHANDISE fela. Ke utlwa e le gore ba dumalana thata le ya go lema BATSWANA SMALL-SCALE FARMERS ka ditselana. Jaanong ke batla go itse gore, tota se se ka MR T. LETSHOLO (KANYE NORTH): asked the ba emisang ke eng gore ba kgone go thusa belemi gore Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security ba leme ka ditselana, mme e bile ba ka leka go dira jalo why he cannot enable access of necessary technology leng? Ke a leboga. to merchandise small-scale farming by Batswana more MS MANAKE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Jaaka o setse particularly: o itse Honourable Letsholo, gompieno re mo tseleng ya (i) why Government cannot subsidise access to to review yone ISPAAD. Kana ke bue jalo gore re e dira handheld planters that can be used in small fields sesha. Dilo tse o di botsang gompieno ke dingwe tse re of less than five hectares; and di etseng thoko kana tse re di sekasekang go bona gore re ba thusa jang. Re na le balemi ba ba batona kana ba (ii) what would be the positive benefits and outcomes bagolwanenyana, re bo re nna le ba ba fa gare, re bo re of using handheld planters versus broadcasting. nna le bone ba subsistence ba ba lemelang go ja, le small holders ba ba simololang kgwebo jalo le ba e leng gore ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL ke di emerging all the way to commercial. Ka fa e leng DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS gore ISPAAD e ntšha e ya go nna ka teng, e ya go ba MANAKE): Mr Speaker, Goromente ga a na lenaneo farologanya sentle mme ke gone fa e leng gore we will la go fokoletsa ditlhwatlhwa kana to subsidise jaaka re define mo e leng dipoelo mo moleming jaaka re buile tlwaetse go go bua mechanisation kana didirisiwa tsa gore it is output-based. Fa e le gore broadcasting ka temo di tshwana le yone megoma, diege, kana tsone lenaneo le lesha le la ISPAAD la re molemi o ka kgona diterekere. Se Goromente a se dirang, o letlelela gore di go tshwara bokgola nako e le teng a bo a kgona gore dirisiwa tse di se ka tsa duelelwa lekgetho gore di se ka ene a intshetse dijo tsa gagwe, gongwe jaaka ke bua re tsa babalela balemi. ye to subsidise price ya kgetsi e a tlaabong a e ntshitse Se sengwe gape Mr Speaker, Goromente o rotloetsa thata re sa subsidise input. Ke dilo dingwe tse re di lebileng e gore balemi ba ka dirisa didirisiwa tse di tshwanang le bile re tswelela ka tsone. Jaanong ke go reye jalo ke re megoma le planters tse di tshwarwang ka seatla, kana gongwe le emele gore re tle re tle ka lone lenaneo le re tse di nyennyanenyana gore ba kgone ba leme sentle ba tle re le lekodise ka gore go ya go nna le consultation, le oketse thobo jalojalo. lona le tlaa nna le tshono ya gore le re gakolole ka se le bonang se ka bereka. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Fela jaaka ke ntse ke bua, re dumela re le ba Lephata la Temothuo gore didirisiwa tse Honourable Letsholo a MR SPEAKER: Honourable Reatile. buang ka tsone, di ka re thusa go oketsa thobo ka gore di MR REATILE: Thank you and good afternoon. tlaabo di lema ka ditselana jaaka re tlwaetse, mme selo Question number 7. se se ka dira gore dijwalo di tlhokomelesege ka go di tlhagolela le go di neela menontshane jalo le jalo. Ga re MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister of Health and ka ke ra e tshwantshanya le ya broadcasting kana ya go Wellness. gasa, ka gore crop management ya teng e kgona gore e HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… bo e nna thatanyana. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Ga a yo gape. O mo strike ne? MR LETSHOLO: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke tlhalosetse HONOURABLE MEMBER: O sietse kae kante? Tona gore, gore lenaneo leo ga le yo, gone re a tlhaloganya. Potso e ne e botsa fela gore a mme Puso MR SPEAKER: Ga ke itse. O ntse a itshupa fa a re ke e ne e sa bone go tshwanela go leka go thusa go ene Lelatisitswe. O tsholeditse letsogo, ga ke itse gore fokoletsa balemi manokonoko a ditlhwatlhwa tsa go ke la eng. Honourable Lelatisitswe!

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ile go tsaya mokento. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Hello Mr Speaker!

MR SPEAKER: Ke eng a tsholetsa letsogo mme? MS MANAKE: Honourable Lelatisitswe mma ke fetse Honourable Lelatisitswe! pele o tlaa tsena sir. A ke ka tswelela Mr Speaker?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Lelatisitswe o leka go MR SPEAKER: Ee mma. araba. MS MANAKE: Ee rra, thank you. Mr Speaker go MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lelatisitswe, unmute araba potso ya ga Honourable Gobotswang, o setse a yourself. Unmute yourself! kile a e botsa gabedi mme a e botsa ka go fetolafetola mafoko a Sekgoa a batla go re thema. Mma ke tlhalose HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ba boranyane ba santse jalo Mr Speaker gore ke buile gore ministry o setse o ba mo thusa. simolotse to draft Biosafety Bill e e leng gore e tsenya MR SPEAKER: Let us pass. yone Biotechnology mo teng. Mme stages tsotlhe tse e leng gore di a tlhokafala, go setse go tsamailwe mo MR KEORAPETSE: Tona o ne a re o kopa go e araba go tsone tsa melao; stakeholder consultation le gone ka Labone ke gone a tlaabong a le ready. go kwala one molao wa teng. Gompieno Bill ya teng e baakanyediwa gore e circulate kana e tsamae ka tsone MURDER CASES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS processes tse re di tlwaetseng go fitlhelela e tla go MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE tsena mo Palamenteng. Re solofela gore ka Palamente WEST): asked the Minister of Defence, Justice and ya Mariga, Bill e e tlaabo e le teng Mr Speaker. Ke a Security to update this Honourable House on the leboga. number of women murdered by men in the last five (5) DR GOBOTSWANG: I am covered Mr Speaker. years and to state: TRANSFERRING THE COVID-19 TASKFORCE (i) the number of cases where suspects were arrested, prosecuted and resulted in convictions or MR W. B. MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN acquittals; SOUTH): asked the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration why the (ii) the number of cases in which suspects were COVID-19 Taskforce was transferred from Ministry of sentenced to jail terms, death and non-custodial Health and Wellness to Ministry for Presidential Affairs, sentences; Governance and Public Administration. (iii) the extent of recidivism in respect of the said ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL accused persons or convicts; and AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC (iv) how this number compares to men killed by women ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank during the same period and what Government is you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, the very first appointment doing to address this scourge. of the COVID-19 Task Force Coordination Team placed them under the Office of the President with secondment Later Date. to the Ministry of Health and Wellness. The mandate DRAFTING OF BIOTECHNOLOGY BILL for the team as articulated in the appointment letters was clear that they are key advisers to the President. DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- As a result, the said advisers were later relocated to RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of the Office of the President but still expected to work Agricultural Development and Food Security to with the Ministry of Health and Wellness on COVID-19 update this Honourable House on the drafting of The issues. Biotechnology Bill and state when it will be presented to Parliament. The function that was initially directly under the Ministry of Health and Wellness is that of procurement. This was ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL transferred to OP early last year so that it could be closer DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS to and be harmonised with the day to day activities of MANAKE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker… the COVID-19 Coordination Team.

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Mr Speaker, as you may be aware, disaster preparedness (ii) Hunhukwe is a service centre for three (3) other is under OP and it is in order that COVID-19 which is settlements (Maake, Monong and Ncaang) but is an emergency be coordinated from the same office. This a very small unit; is simply because COVID-19 activities cut across all sectors of the economy. I thank you Mr Speaker. (iii) Lehututu village has a large population but is serviced by a small health post; and if so, (iv) MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr when he intends to upgrade the Hukuntsi Clinic, Speaker. Tona ke ne ke re a mme ga o bone o kare go Lehututu and Hunhukwe Health Posts. ntsha yone Task Force e kwa Ministry of Health and Wellness created gap ya kitso ya se se diragalang fa gare ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND ga Lephata la Botsogo le yone Task Team? WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so much Mr Speaker. Ke tsaya gore ke a utlwala jaanong. Gape o tlhalose gore a mme ga o belaele gore corruption Mr Speaker, a ke a utlwala? e e utlwalegang e le ntsi thata thatathata mo mading one a COVID e ka tswa e dirwa ke gone gore batho bao MR SPEAKER: Ee rra. o kare ba kgaogantswe ka maphata a mabedi; ba a ne MR LELATISITSWE: Rra! motsotsonyana ba nna kwa Health mme bontsi jwa nako ba le kwa OP, go bo go raya gore jaanong accountability MR SPEAKER: Ee rra. gongwe gone foo e ka tswa e tsenwa ke phefo? MR LELATISITSWE: MR MTHIMKHULU: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke simolole fela ke re tota ga gona gap between the COVID (i) Mr Speaker, question number 4 ya ga Mma Task Force Team le ba Ministry of Health and Wellness. Monnakgotla ke supe gore le rona re a lemoga We have officials tse di tswang kwa Ministry of Health gore clinic ya rona e e kwa Hukuntsi, part of it and Wellness who are part of the COVID Task Force e dirilwe ka asbestos. Re supe jalo gore re a itse Team. One of them ke ene Director of Health Services, bodiphatsa jwa yone e bile re bolelela Ntlo e gore ba mo teng ba bereka botlhe so ga go ka ke ga nna le re tlaa ntsha asbestos eo mo bogaufing, this next any gap e o buang ka yone. financial year.

As for procurement, as far as we are concerned, what Re supe jalo Mr Speaker gone mo Hukuntsi re na le we know ke gore everything is done ka fa tsamaisong ya sepatela. Population of Hukuntsi is only 4600 ka the last go reka. Le fa e le gore go a rekwa kana procurement ya census so go na le sepatela se setona se e leng gore batho COVID related medical equipment or stuff, e tlisitswe kwano gore e nne gaufi le yone COVID Team because ba Ghanzi ba ka se dirisa. that is where most of the decisions regarding COVID (ii) Mr Speaker, re supe jalo gore Hunhukwe is not a procurement le what to do with COVID are taken. service centre but a health post fela e e tshwanang So it is easier for them to deal with those issues tsa le Maake, Manong le Ncaang. The service centre procurement for COVID unlike fa ba tsaya decisions ya cluster ya Hunhukwe ke yone Hukuntsi clinic. ba bo ba simolola ba re nnyaa, a re tsamae jaanong re ye kwa procurement kwa lephateng le sele go bo go (iii) Part three of the question e supa gore ka ngwaga o diragala gore Task Force e bo e se teng. That is why go neng go balwa batho ka one ka 2011 Lehututu go tlisitswe kwano gore go nne seamless, ba dire under the same ministry kwa decisions di tsewang teng, yone Village o ne o supa gore o na le batho ba le 1,956. COVID Task Force Team. Ke lebogile Mr Speaker. Re a dumela gore o a gola, mme e tlaa re fa madi a ntse a ka bonwa re tlaa leka to upscale or go UPGRADING HUKUNTSI CLINIC, LEHUTUTU tsholetsa seemo sa kokelwana eo go e dira kokelo. AND HUNHUKWE HEALTH POSTS Ya bofelo Mr Speaker, Hukuntsi Clinic le Lehututu di MS T. MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): ne di tshwanetse gore gongwe di ka bo di tsholeditswe asked the Minister of Health and Wellness if he is aware maemo go ya kwa clinic without maternity mo NDP that: 11. Fa Hunhunkwe Health Post e ne e tshwanetse to be (i) Hukuntsi Clinic is made of asbestos which is upgraded go nna a clinic with maternity, gone ka NDP a known health hazard and it services a large 11. Ke supe Mr Speaker gore mo Mid-Term Review e community; e neng ya dirwa ya fetisiwa ke Palamente, projects tse

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tsotlhe ga di a ka tsa kgona go bona phatlha ya gore di (iv) what impact the levy has made on those the levy tsene mo Mid-Term Review. Jaanong se se supa jalo gore was intended to benefit. re tlaa nna re ntse re di sekaseka fa re ya kwa pele mo dipakeng tse tsa madi Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker, e bile so much Mr Speaker. Question seven is a very good ke a leboga Tona. Ke botsa Tona gore, tota clinics tse, question, I received the answer from the officials, mme ya Hukuntsi le Hunhukwe di a go dirwa leng fa o lebile? ga ke a e itumelela. Ke buile le Honourable Member Reatile gore ke santse ke ikgotsofatsa ka yone pele ga Tona kana gompieno ke nako ya COVID-19, Clinic ke e tlisa mo Ntlong e. Ke a leboga, ke kopa later date. ya Lehututu e setse e le nnye thata mo bathong, mo e leng gore ke nngwe ya clinics tse e neng e le gore MR SPEAKER: …(Inaudible)… Honourable Reatile. maloba go ne ga nna le infection thata batho ba bo ba …Silence… nna le mogare thata teng koo, ga ba ga nna le dintsho tse dintsi thata teng kwa. Jaanong ke botse gore, the fact MR SPEAKER: I think it is ...(Inaudible)… if the ya gore go COVID-19 a ga o lebelele gore Hukuntsi Minister is not satisfied. Clinic gompieno batho fa ba ya go tlala kwa sepatela le kwa kokelwaneng ele, a ga o bone gore ...(Inaudible)… Later Date. ditlamelo kwa bathong? Ke a leboga Tona. LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. SALESHANDO): On a point of procedure. You will Fa ke araba karabo ya ntlha ya ga Mopalamente ke supe recall that last week Minister Rakgare undertook to jalo ke re, ga ke na date e ke ka reng gongwe clinic e a substantiate his statement on allegations that some go dirwa leng. O a itse gore Corona e amile lefatshe le Members of Parliament (MPs) conduct businesses, that they operate through third parties, so that their identities go le kae. Ke dumela jalo gore, jaaka seemo se ntse se are not exposed. He was given until Thursday last week tokafala, ke gone re ka tlang ra itse morago, gore a ke and I am sure he should by now be more than ready dingwaga tse pedi kana tse tharo. Ga ke na karabo ya to provide those names of MPs in this House who gore gongwe re a go bona madi a a botoka leng. ke ka ema gone foo. undertake such activities.

Ke supe Mr Speaker gore, ke a dumela gore fa batho ba MR SPEAKER: Indeed I ruled that, the Minister was kgobokanang teng…(Inaudible)… Corona e ka anama. asking for a time and he is around. Honourable Minister Ke tsholofelo ya rona gore rotlhe re le baeteledipele Rakgare. re nne re rotloetsa batho gore ba se ka ba kgobokana MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, kwa dikokelwaneng ka seemo se, ka gore itsholelo e SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR kwa tlase, ga e letlelele gore gongwe re ka nna le madi RAKGARE): Thank you very much. Mr Speaker I am a go aga facilities mo nakong ya gompieno. Jaaka ke very sorry, ga ke ise ke kgone go kgobokanya tsotlhe buile gore Lehututu le Hukuntsi, re na le sepatela gone tse ke neng ke rile ke tlaa… kana ke eleditse go di foo se segolwane, se re dumelang gore se ka nama se kgobokanya gore ke di beye fa pele ga Palamente. Yo tshegeditse morafe wa rona o o leng ka koo Mr Speaker. a neng a nthusa ka go kgobokanya that information o Ke a leboga. kopile gore ke mo fe nakonyana. Ga ke itse gore kana go ka nna diphatsa gore that individual ke bue gore ke TOBACCO LEVY mang, ka gore ka Labotlhano Mr Speaker o ne wa supa MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): gore kana fa Honourable Yandani Boko a supa gore go asked the Minister of Health and Wellness: na le bangwe ba Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) ba a neng a bua nabo, ba ne ba supa gore go a go ganwa (i) when the levy on tobacco was introduced and Motion wa gagwe. why; HONOURABLE MEMBER: O itoma diteme man! (ii) how much money has been collected from inception to date; MR RAKGARE: Gongwe se ke ka se supang ke gore…

(iii) who the intended beneficiaries of the funds are; HONOURABLE MEMBER: O bua ka ga eng and jaanong?

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MR RAKGARE:…mafoko a Mr Speaker a ne a tswa MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members… mo mongwe wa bone ba kganetso, e le ...(Inaudible)…. (Inaudible)…two, the problem is Honourable Rakgare’s, if he trusts anybody under this sun, that is his problem. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O bua ka ga eng? ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Interruptions!)… (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) MR RAKGARE: A ke ka tswelela Mr Speaker ke sa kgopakgopediwe? APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) MR SPEAKER: You are the only one on the floor. I do not know what the other Members are speaking about. ORGANISATION 0800 - MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL MR RAKGARE: Ee rra, thank you very Mr Speaker. DEVELOPMENT Jaanong jaaka ke ne ke supa, ke ne ke re, kana go ne go na le mongwe ka fa go bone ba kganetso yo a neng (Resumed Debate) a supa gore ba na le bangwe ba a itseng ba dira jalo, ba dira kgwebo ka ditsela tseo, tsa gore ba bo ba iphitlhile MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): Order! ka dikgwebo tsa batho ba bangwe. Jaanong ga ke Order! When the House adjourned for lunch, Honourable dumele gore gongwe go ka nna sentle gore ke mo ntshe Minister Molale was on the floor replying to the debate ka lesolegolo. Jaanong o nkopile gore ke mo fe nako a and he is left with 24 minutes 45 seconds. name a ipaakanya, pele fa a sena go nna a ipaakanya MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND o tlaa mpolelela ke bo ke ka tla mo Palamenteng ka RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Ke supa gore mme gone gatwe batho bao ke bo mang. Ke a a leboga Mr Chairperson. Pele ga ke lebala, ke bue leboga Mr Speaker. jaana e le bontlha bongwe jwa go nonotsha tiriso ya madi a Ipelegeng le a Constituency Projects, ke kopile MR SPEAKER: Honourable Rakgare, I think you have Honourable Mmusi Kgafela le Honourable Dikoloti a problem. You are complicating it by trying to implicate gore ba re thuse ka dipolane tsa go atolosa health posts somebody from the leadership of the opposition, but le clinics tse dipotlana le diofisi tse dipotlana tsa Tribal you understood my ruling that time, that we cannot gore e re fa go ya go dirwa projects tse pedi tse ka madi allow ourselves to go that route. Today is Tuesday, a, Village Development Committees (VDCs) di bo di na let the records show that if by Thursday you have no le dipolane (plans) tseo ka gore go ya go hirwa artisans information, then I will make a ruling on this matter on ba ba itseng go bala dipolane tse di seng complicated. the basis of what is before Parliament. We cannot have a Ke bontlha bongwe jwa gore re fokotsa go nna re lere century on such matters ...(Inaudible)… ga ke sa reetsa dilo tse di ka bong di dirwa kwa dikgaolong di tla at the sepe. ministry. Ke buile gore re tlaabo re lebile monitoring MR KABLAY: On a point of procedure. Thank you and evaluation wa gore a madi a dirisiwa le gore a Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke re gape Mr Speaker, Honourable support e teng ya gore dikhansele di bo di na le dipolane Rakgare o tshwanetse a itse gore he is dealing with the tseo jalojalo. opposition, ga go na gope mo ditsong tsa sepolotiki mo Fa re kgaogana Modulasetilo, fa re ka ya kwa Paragraph e kileng opposition le the ruling party tsa tsamaelana 38 go ya kwa go 40, ke buile sentle fela gore timeliness mmogo. Honourable Rakgare, o tshwanetse a itse gore tse re di beileng ke dife fa e le gore COVID e ka letla ka mongwe yo o reng o tlaa mo fa information eo, a ko o tsamaiso ya rona ya go lere Decentralisation Policy mo mpolelele gore fa a tla go mo fa maDomkrag a le teng, a Palamenteng. Timeline e e clear fela ke gore fa o tsamaya bo a re ke bone ba ba neng ba mo fa that information… sentle ka gore ke santse ke tlhotlhoma le dikhansele, can you trust se rre yo a tlaabong a se go bolelela? You ke gore e re ka Palamente ya June re bo re buisana should be very careful when you deal with the opposition (debate) policy e. Ga re ka ke ra e e ja maoko kana Honourable Rakgare, because o tloga a dirisa party… ra tlola processes tse dingwe ka gore decentralisation ga se go dira sub-districts fela; e na le matlhatlola a (Inaudible)… mantsi a re tshwanetseng ra a bua otlhe. Selo sa bobedi HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Interruptions!)... ke gore le a bona mo speech se, ke buile gore Part 1 ke

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ya Decentralisation Policy. E tshwanetse go dirwa ka a neng a e bua ka gore programme eo e ne e leka go bofefo ka gore e na le maungo a a bofefo. Go na le Part tlhatlosa madirelo mo dikgaolong ka go farologana. Ga 2 e e leng gore yone e matswakabele ka gore it involves ke re e a go bewa, ka re ke keletso ya me ka gore e melao jalojalo jaaka Honourable Lucas a ne a bua ka bile Minister wa teng o teng elsewhere yo le ene a ka e decentralisation of Bogosi. Jaanong kana re tlaabo re sekasekang. Go tshwana le e ya clinics e e neng e buiwa ya kwa Bogosi Act le Tribal Territories Act. That is the ke Honourable Mmolotsi. Ga ke ise ke tlhomamisetse Part 2 e ke buang ka yone but tse di gautshwanyane Ntlo e gore clinics di boela kwa Local Government. Ke jaaka a ne a bua, re setse re buile ka tsone; di mo rile ka fa tsamaisong le ka fa re bonang dilo di dirwa ka tseleng. Selo sa boraro ke gore re tshwanetse ra itse teng mo mafatsheng a mangwe, ke keletso ya me gore gore this process evolved over time. Ke sone se e rileng clinics di boele kwa Local Government. I can still say kwa tshimologong fela, districts were declared sub- that, re bo re ya go batla le yone Hansard. Ga ke ise ke districts. Ya bo ya re pele ga go akanngwa gore jaanong tlhomamisetse Palamente. I am a Member of Parliament there could be declaration of full districts, there was (MP) and I am entitled to my views and wishes when provision for minimal infrastructure. That is why every debating mo Palamenteng. sub-district jaanong e na le Rural Administration Centre (RAC). It was a lengthy process e e neng e tlhoka madi. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Jaanong ene o a tsere Jaanong e tlaa re fa re ya go tsena mo go reng fa go kae? kgonagalang teng, districts tse dišha tse e bo e le gore MR MOLALE: Botsa ene. Selo se sengwe, Puso ya ga le fa go sa lekana mme go na le fa di berekelang teng. Domkrag Mr Chairperson, fa e ntsha dithuso, ga e ntshe This is a process. Ga se gore go ne go solofediwa fela dithuso tse gotweng go ka tweng ke tsa lenyatso. E a bo go sa dirwe sepe. e leka ka bojotlhe go lomaganya madi a ka dinako tsotlhe Selo sa bone mo decentralisation ke gore ga ke ise ke a tlhaelang go thusa batho. Jaanong gore dithuso ke tsa bue gope ka Constitution mo decentralisation. Ga ke lenyatso, I think ke go leka go senya maiteko a Puso e itse gore fa gotwe ke ipata ka Constitutional review go ya ga Domkrag le go nyefola batho ba ba amogelang tewa jang ka gore re a bua gore re batla to implement dithuso tseo. Se ke ka se tlhomamisang ke gore ba ba Part 1 le go baakanya melao e mengwe? di amogelang le fa go sa lekana, mme ba a dumela gore dithuso tse di ba isa golo gongwe. Ga go tshwane le fa MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, go sena sepe. Jaanong ke kgala mafoko ao a ke dithuso Honourable Tshere and Honourable Greeff are asking tsa lenyatso. for clarification. Ke batla go ya mo kgannyeng ya tshenyetso-setšhaba MR MOLALE: Ke tlaa ba akanyetsa, ke santse ke le or corruption. Ke a dumela, bogolo jang fa go tla kwa kgakala. Ke tlaa ba akanyetsa kgantele Modulasetilo. Ke procurement. Ke ne ke bua le Portfolio Committee tsone dilo tse re tshwanetseng ra di leba ra di baakanya. ya Palamente last week Wednesday ka kgang e. Ke Ga ke a ipata ka Constitutional review. I am on process kopa jaana batlotlegi gore rotlhe re emeng ka dinao and I am very confident gore re tlaa kgona ka bofefo jo ka gore dikgaolo tsa rona tsotlhe di a amega. Re bua bo kgonagalang. O buile ka Rural Industries Programme ka tenders tse e leng gore o a ne o bona as in the case (RIP). Ke boammaaruri ke buile le Honourable Lucas ya constituency ya me, where there is a state of the art gore go na le votes tse dingwe tse madi a yang straight kwa sub-districts. Ke ne ka mo tlhomamisetsa gore ke bakery kwa Goodhope, mme ba sa fiwe le fa tender e kopile my advisors gore ba mpolelele gore ke eng the e one to supply borotho. Tenders tsotlhe tsa secondary rest of the remaining votes di sa tsamae direct fela jaaka schools tse five mo kgaolong di tswa kwa Lobatse. There votes tse dingwe. Ga ke ka ke ka dira dilo fela ke sa is something not right mme e le gore Tender Committee tlhomamisa gore a di ka fa molaong. Ke sone se re mo ke ya ga Molaodi mo kgaolong mo Goodhope. Ke dilo go sone. Ke sone se ke neng ke se mo tlhomamisetsa tse rotlhe re tshwanetseng ra di emela ka dinao ra di maloba le Komiti ya Palamante ya portfolio ya ministry kgalemela. wa me. Ke tsone dilo tse ke di ba tlhomamiseditseng. Goromente o rile we will empower citizens locally, ra Fa o ya kwa go Paragraph 20, ke buile ka keletso ya ba ra dira gore go buiwe gore ba ba botlana thata, ba se me ya gore the Rural Industries Programme gongwe ka ba lopiwa licences, company’s registration le income e ka busediwa go araba kgang e Honourable Lucas tax returns, mme golo mo go ntse go tsweletse.

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Selo se sengwe ke gore, fa gongwe fa ba ka nna sego MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa, o ne a kopa elucidation. ba fiwa tenders bone bagwebi ba ba botlana, after supplying, go tsaya six, seven, eight, nine months ba sa MR MOLALE: Mma ke fe Honourable Greeff pele, ke duelwe, mme e se gore madi ga a yo, madi a le teng. Ke tlaabo ke e fa Honourable Thiite, there was another one sone se ke reng, a re emeleng dilo tse rotlhe ka dinao, from Honourable Tshere, ka bofefo please. it cannot just be blamed gore the ministry is corrupt. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go laola Mr Yes, gongwe by implication, mme dilo tse tsotlhe di Chairperson, e seng wena. diragala at the local level. Le utlwile ke boelela figure ya food purchase ya school feeding, that is P864 million MR MOLALE: The time is mine. e kgaolo nngwe le nngwe with the 750 primary schools MR GREEFF: Clarification. Honourable Molale, sa that we have around the country, and probably 38 senior ntlha ke go leboge sir gore le bo le re gopotse kwa Phase secondary schools, and 200 and something junior 4 ka go tla go re agela a primary school. secondary schools, there is a lot of money that can be spent in our constituencies, to boost small industries. Sa bobedi se ke batlang gore gongwe o se lemoge The ball is in our court, all of us, to make sure that we Honourable Molale ke gore, Gaborone City Council ensure this facilitation gore madi a tsene mo kgaolong. e le nosi e a palelwa, e rwele tiro e e bokete tota mo Balemi ba teng mo dikgaolong tse, they are being Gaborone, because constituencies le dikgaolwana tsa supported through Integrated Support Programme rona di dintsi. A ga o bone e le nako ya gore gongwe le for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD). The kgaoganye Gaborone into two administrative authorities Government has facilitated that their produce must be bought for schools. Somewhere the cycle gets broken, gore botoka morwalo o wa Gaborone o kgaogane? and we seem to look for somebody else to come up with Sa boraro ke gore, do you not think it is high time, the solution, and yet we are the solution ourselves. because we are the capital city of Botswana, o kope I am pleading with all of us gore, dilo tse re di lebe. Rre Matsheka a re fe a special budget for storm You will remember Honourable Thiite and Honourable water drainage system. Nako le nako fa pula e na mo Motsamai, gore kwa Ghanzi, Financial Assistance Gaborone, go nna merwalela. Ke kopa gore o kopane Policy (FAP) sponsored dairy had to close down, ka le Rre Matsheka, le re kopele a special budget for gore all the milk tenders were given to a briefcase Gaborone, because kgang e e bokete. vendor yo o neng a rekisa Ultra Mel. These things are unacceptable, but we all have to open our eyes, so that Sa bone ke gore, ditsela Honourable Molale, fa ke tsaya we ring the bell much earlier before it gets too late. So sekai mo Kgaolong ya me ya Gaborone Bonnington those are the issues. Ke dumalana le Honourable Lucas South, ditsela tsele tsotlhe di sale di dirwa ka 1986, di gore, we must plough back the money into our rural na le 35 years. Fa o lebile lifespan ya tsone, di setse di areas, and that is where the starting point is. There is tsofetse, ke mesimasima, gongwe le gone a ko o kopane money, P864 million plus a ga Rre Molao, ga ke itse le Honourable Segokgo o re kopele madi a road levy gore a e ka nna another P300 million, dipatela another gore ditsela di ye go diriwa. P200 million, that is more than a billion that we have access to, to start small industries. Sa bofelo ke corruption, street lights Honourable Fa ke tswelela Mr Chairperson, Honourable Molale... Monnakgotla le ene o buile. MR MOLALE: O dira gore ke time ba bangwe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation Mr elucidation. Chairperson. MR GREEFF: Ke a wela. Street lights tsotlhe tsa MR MOLALE: Ke ne ke tshega ka lunch ke lebeletse Gaborone sir ga di bereke, but khansele ya Gaborone dikgang, hostel ya Hukuntsi e a neng a e bua gore e since 2015 go tla go fitlha gompieno, e neela kompone maswe thata...(Interruptions)... nngwe tender gotwe e tsenya dipone mo Gaborone. Madi a a setseng a dirisitswe a P52 million, kgang eo MR CHAIRPERSON: ...(Inaudible)... le yone o tle o e tsibogele sir, re tshelela mo lefifing. I MR MOLALE: Gatweng? Ga ke utlwe. thank you.

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MR TSHERE: Clarification. Thank you very Honourable Greeff, the reason I am going around the much Honourable Chairperson. Mine is very short country consulting councils is to look for such ideas, Honourable Minister. You know kwa Mahalapye re gore kwa bofelong e re le fa re dira sub-districts tse ikaeletse go bereka le wena gore re kgone go tlhabolola dingwe the districts, there are others within those new motse wa Mahalapye, mme re a ngongorega ka gore supposed districts, mo go tlaa nnang go tlhokafala sub- ka 2020/2021, ga go a ka ga tla madi a Constituency district. Ke gore decentralise and decentralise further. Community Projects (CCP), le gompieno ka 2021/2022, Two administrative authorities within Gaborone, ga di ga re itse gore a a tlaa nna teng Tona. Selo se se a re molato, re tlaa utlwa fa ke tsile kwa khanseleng ya lona. ngongorisa, a ko o rurifatse. Ga ke a bona le mo budget fela a tswa a rurifadiwa gore madi a CCP ke a, e bile le Yes, capital city gongwe e ka tlhoka a special budget, a a setseng kwa morago a a tla. A ko o tlhomamisetse but I would not go there before the capital city starts Batswana gore golo moo go tlaa diragala. Ke a leboga. collecting revenue. Game City, Commerce Park, Riverwalk, Airport Junction and all these malls tse di MR THIITE: Clarification. Thank you Mr Chairperson, tletseng mo, rates are not being paid because we are thank you Honourable Minister. Honourable Minister, paying Revenue Support Grant (RSG). That is why in ke ntse ke utlwa o bua thata ka gore go na le madi, this budget, ke kopile madi, Rre Matsheka a a nneetse over a billion a a yang kwa dikgaolong. Selo se re se gore re ye go neela khansele e madi, e ye go dira lemogang se diragala kwa dikgaolong ke gore, the valuation, so that after that re kgaola RSG. If anything, procurement processes exclude batho ba re itseng kwa we will do a matching grant fa e le gore go a kgonagala, dikgaolong gore they are economically disadvantaged. because madi a le a batlang a ditsela tse di tshwanetseng Sa ntlha fela Honourable Minister, ke batla gore o to be resealed, a teng kwa Game City and all these other tsenelele thata, o tlhalose gore wena o le ministry, o malls. There is a lot of money. That is what we are going itshwaraganye le Ministry of Finance and Economic to do. Development ka ke bone ba tsamaisang procurement, gore le dira eng to reserve certain projects, especially Ke tswelela Mr Chairperson, ga ke bone gore ke gongwe …(Inaudible)… jaaka o ntse o bua ka project ya tsamaya fa kae ka nako. Honourable Monnakgotla, I dairy, gore a briefcase tenderer o kgonne go tla go tsaya think re buile mme as I was saying, bontsi jwa dilo tse le project, ele e bo e phutlhama. Golo moo ke selo se tota di buang, with Ipelegeng, constituency projects, Remote gotlhelele Honourable Minister, ga re le go emele ka Area Development Programme (RADP) projects tse re dinao, ka gore kwa dikgaolong, batho ba na le bothata di kopelang madi a, a lot can be done. The problem ya jwa gore o a ne o utlwalela gotwe a tender has been won, all these, ke implementation e e leng gore it is misguided go neelwa (supply) dikole di le 12 mo Ghanzi District, by procurements tse di sa nnang sentle. That is why I go fentse kompone e e tswang kwa Gaborone. Bana ba repeat, re baakanyang Public Procurement and Asset mo gae ra reng ka bone? O e tlhalose thata Honourable Disposal Board (PPADB) and Local Procurement and Minister. I thank you. Asset Disposal (LAPAD) Acts gore re leke go tsenya kgalemo mo tsamaisong eo, ka gore there is a lot of MR MOLALE: Thank you. Mr Chairperson, go raya leakage. Rre Matsheka ga ke itse gore o ne a tsaya kae gore the other Honourable Members ga ba na go tlhola 37 per cent, my belief is that it is more than 37 per cent, ba bona elucidation, ka gore when you try to be nice, these leakages. Legale ga go reye gore re ipoka ka gore people take all the time. madi a a senyega, the fact is we are acting on it to make sure that madi a ga a tlhole a senyega, and there must Yes, Honourable Thiite, nna le Rre Matsheka re a be accountability. Ke itse gore bangwe fa ke bua jalo ba dumalana e bile we are reviewing both Acts. Le fa re akanya dilo tse e leng gore, bo Rre Mmolotsi ba re go dumalana jalo, there are two tender committees kwa raya gore ga ke rate badirelapuso. Nnyaa, modirelapuso kgaolong, and they are presided over by very senior fa a hirwa, one of the key factors tsa gore a perform people who are the first recipients of every Government sentle, ke gore a nne accountable. Ga a ka ke a nna yo decision through Presidential Directives, gore go dirwe o batlang additional things a se accountable, that is a jaana le jaana, but still ga go nko e e tswang lemina. So fact of life. the thing that remains is accountability, gore why did you give a briefcase entrepreneur a bo a ya go tsaya Deputy Speaker, ke a itumela fa o bua ka training of imported products, re na le locally produced goods? extension officers. You may be aware gore re ne ra People must be held accountable for that. simolodisa an in-service course kwa University of

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Botswana, e bidiwa Botswana Extension Service Training Programme. Batho ba ba tshwanang le bo Honourable Lucas, ke bone ba ka bolelang gore bothata e ne ya nna eng gone fa. When our extension officers come back, they now become power brokers, they are no more extension officers. Ke sone se le bonang ke bua gore jaanong we are going to take that to the Botswana Public Service College.

The other thing ke gore social workers in the ministries, ba ba ntsi. I think one of the best fit for purpose efforts tse re di dirang ke gore, social workers ba boele kwa Local Government. At the local level, re ba tseye and increase their number, being supervised, go na le line of authority kwa metseng gore ba attend dikole, clinics, villagers and everybody ba ba tlhokang social work and counselling. E seng gore re tseye yo mongwe re mmeye kwa sepatela, yo mongwe kwa secondary school kana kwa kae, that is splitting hairs and it is costing us a lot.

Honourable Motsamai, ke batla go go gakolola gore fa ke leng teng fa, ga ke a robala. That is why le kwa Bere, e le wena o neng o bua gore o a bona gore ke theogetse golo mo Local Government. Jaanong ga ke itse gore o a bo o tsaya kae tseo tsa gore ke robetse. Mme fela your points ke di tshotse. Se ke batlang go se go gakolola ke gore, mogopolo wa decentralization, o tlholega le Puso e ya ga Domkrag. If you go back and read the Rural Development Policy Draft e e neng e dirwa ke Robert Chambers ya 1972, o tlaa fitlhela e le gore Puso e ne e bua kadecentralisation. The directive ya 69 which was setting structures tsa bo Village Development Committee (VDC) le tse dingwe, e ne e bua ka decentralisation. So Pamphlet No. 1 nna ga ke itse gore o bua ka ga eng rraetsho.

Mr Chairperson, jaaka re buile, re tlaa dira dikarabo re di tlisa ka gore nako e fedile. Honourable Reatile, bolelela batho ba Mabutsane gore gongwe e bile ke ba rata go go gaisa, le bone ba a itse. Ga go na sepe se ba se ntirileng mme e bile re tla ya Kgotleng koo, ke ya go ba bolelela nna le wena gore ga go na ope wa bone yo ke mo tlhoileng. Fa madi a seyo, a a bo a seyo Morolong, re tlaa nna re leka re bona gore re dira dilo jang.

Mr Chairperson, kwa bofelong mma ke re, I therefore, move that the 2021/22 Recurrent Budget in the sum of Seven Billion, One Hundred and Thirty-Seven Million, One Hundred and Fifty-Seven Thousand, Seven Hundred and Seventy Pula (P7,137,157,770.00) be approved and stand part of the Schedule of the Appropriation (2021/22) Bill 2021 for Head 0800 and that the Development Budget in the sum of One Billion, Four Hundred and Fifty-Three Million, Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Ninety-Eight Pula (P1,453,009,298.00) be approved and stand part of those Estimates. I so move Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, now we are going to a roll call for voting. May I remind you again to switch on your video, just in case you have trouble, we then can see you and try to help.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi Honourable Kgotla Kenneth Autlwetse Honourable Mpho Balopi √ Honourable Yandani Boko Honourable Justice Brooks √ Honourable Honest Buti Billy √ Honourable Dr Edwin Gorataone Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Unity Dow √ Honourable Karabo Socraat Gare √ Honourable Dr Kesitegile Gobotswang √ Honourable Christian Greeff √ Honourable Kainangura Caterpillar Hikuama √ Honourable Liakat Kablay

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Honourable Kenny Kapinga √ Honourable Goretetse Kekgonegile √ Honourable Dithapelo Lefoko Keorapetse Honourable Philda Kereng Honourable Mmusi Kgafela Honourable Tshekedi Stanford Khama Honourable Dr Lemogang Kwape √ Honourable Leepetswe Lesedi √ Honourable Sethomo Lelatisitswe √ Honourable Aubrey Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Douglas Letsholathebe √ Honourable Thapelo Letsholo √ Honourable Friction Tshoganetso Leuwe √ Honourable Taolo Boipuso Lucas √ Honourable Polson Majaga √ Honourable Nnaniki Wilhemina Tebogo Makwinja Honourable Beauty Manake √ Honourable Tumisang Mangwegape-Healy Honourable Baratiwa Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Thapelo Matsheka √ Honourable Wynter Boipuso Mmolotsi √ Honourable Kagiso Thomas Mmusi √ Honourable Simon Nkosana Moabi √ Honourable Lefoko Maxwell Moagi Honourable Pono Pearson Patson Moatlhodi √ Honourable Setlhabelo Nasser Modukanele √ Honourable Anna Maria Mokgethi Honourable Eric Mothibi Molale √ Honourable Fidelis Macdonald Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi Shimane Molebatsi Honourable Talita Monnakgotla √ Honourable Kabo Neale Sechele Morwaeng √ Honourable Mokwaledi Ignatius Moswaane Honourable Palelo Keitseope Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai Gabantema Jelson Motsamai √ Honourable Dumezweni Meshack Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Kefentse Mzwinila √ Honourable Kgoberego Nkawana √ Honourable Tumiso Macdonald Rakgare √ Honourable Onneetse Ramogapi √ Honourable Mephato Reatile √ Honourable Oabile Regoeng √ Honourable Dumelang Saleshando √

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Honourable Thulagano Merafe Segokgo √ Honourable Peggy Serame √ Honourable Machana Ronald Shamukuni √ Honourable Johane Thiite √ Honourable Dr Never Tshabang √ Honourable David Tshere √ Honourable Slumber Tsogwane √

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kablay, can you unmute yourself?

...Silence…

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Owai go padile.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kablay, can you raise your hand for “Aye”?

Thank you. Results for the voting;

Ayes - 48

Abstain - 1

Absent - 15

The Noes - Zero

So the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it.

Question put and agreed to. ORGANISATION 0500 - MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please note that 2 hours 45 minutes have been allocated to this Organisation. I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to respond to the debate at 1720 hours today, and the question will be put at 1750 hours today. I now call upon the Honourable Minister for Agricultural Development and Food Security to present please.

MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR GARE): Mr Chairperson, I have the honour to present to this Honourable House, the Ministry of Agricultural Development and Food Security’s Recurrent and Development Budget proposals for the financial year 2021/2022 under Organisation 0500.

My presentation starts by highlighting the budget performance for the financial year 2020/2021. The sectoral performance will follow with highlights on the Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan (ERTP).

2020/2021 BUDGET PERFORMANCE

The ministry’s approved Budget for the financial year 2020/2021 was Two Billion, Two Hundred and Forty-Six Million, One Hundred and Six Thousand, Two Hundred and Thirty Pula (P2 246 106 230). In September 2020, a Supplementary Budget was approved through Financial Paper Number 1 of 2020/2021, which resulted in an increase in the ministry’s total budget to Two Billion, Five Hundred and Seventy-Seven Million, Seven Hundred and Fifty- Nine Thousand, One Hundred and Seventy Pula (P2 577 759 170), comprising of One Billion, Four Hundred and Forty Million, Four Hundred and Fifty-Nine Thousand, One Hundred and Seventy Pula (P1,440,459,170) Recurrent Budget, and One Billion, One Hundred and Thirty-Seven Million, Three Hundred Thousand Pula (P1, 137, 300,

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000) Development Budget. The major components production stood at 57 168 tons (vegetables were 54 012 of the budget are Integrated Support Programme for tons and fruits were 3 156 tons). This was from a total Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD), Livestock area of 2 151 hectares (ha). This production accounts Management and Infrastructure Development (LIMID), for 66 per cent of the ministry’s annual target of 85 Livestock Drought Subsidy, personnel emoluments 860 tonnes. This production represents 51 per cent of for ministry staff, parastatals subvention, and other the annual national horticulture requirement of 112 000 operating expenses for the various departments in the metric tonnes (mt). ministry. The ministry’s actual recurrent expenditure To continue increasing production to meet the national as at 28 February 2021 was at One Billion, Three demand and to mitigate the effects of climate change, my Hundred and Sixty Million, Three Hundred and Sixteen ministry introduced the Horticulture Impact Accelerator Thousand, and Fifty-One Pula (P1,360,316, 051), which Subsidy (IAS). The aim of this facility is to intensify is 94 per cent of the warranted provision for the year, horticultural production under protected cultivation, and the Development Budget expenditure was at Eight the effect of which will be enhanced vegetable quality, Hundred and Sixty-Three Million, Seven Hundred and value addition and reduction of crop losses. Forty-One Thousand, Nine Hundred and Eighty-Five LIVESTOCK PRODUCTION Pula, Forty-Two Thebe (P863 741 985. 42) which is 78 per cent of the warranted provision. Table 1 and Table Mr Chairperson, livestock production is faced with 2 below should summarise levels of expenditure for the numerous challenges. These include but not limited Recurrent and Development Budgets, respectively. to drought, pests and diseases, predation, stock theft and of late effects of the COVID-19 pandemic. These SECTORAL REVIEW challenges contribute to low livestock productivity. However, some sub-sectors such as poultry (meat and CROP PRODUCTION eggs), piggery and apiculture have recorded some Mr Chairperson, the 2019/2020 cropping season was growth this year as compared to the previous year. generally characterised by good rains, especially in Mr Chairperson, poultry meat and egg production the southern and south-eastern parts of the country. increased from 35 443 tonnes to 38 407 tonnes, and 11 Crops performed fairly well with isolated cases of crop 204 928 dozen to 11 265 780 dozen in 2019/2020 and failure. The North East, Bobirwa and the northern parts 2020/2021, respectively. This increase is attributed to an increase in poultry projects as a result of subsidised feed of the Central District received marginal rainfall. The prices under the 35 per cent subsidy. The COVID-19 season also had outbreaks of pests such as locust and Food Basket programme also provided a market for fall army worm, which negatively affected crop yields. the produce during lockdowns which stimulated local The COVID-19 pandemic also affected arable farming production. activities in a number of ways. Mr Chairperson, my ministry continues to facilitate As of 31st January 2021, a total of 4365 hectares had small scale poultry producers to participate in the been planted by 658 farmers compared to 10 244 poultry industry which is mainly dominated by large hectares planted by 536 farmers in the previous season scale producers. The industry has grown into a vertically (2019/2020) during the same period. The low hectarage integrated mode resulting in large scale producers participating in various stages of the value chain, from planted is attributed to continuous rainfall in the central supply of day old chicks, feed supply, to processing and northern parts of the country, and some isolated plants. To grow a fair and equitable participation of cases of dry spell in the southern part of the country. all interested groups, small scale farmers are given a dispensation to import feeds. They are also facilitated For the 2019/2020 cropping season, the total crop through clusters to register at Public Procurement and production recorded was 275 619 tonnes, of which Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) and supply Government cereals amounted to 158 118 tonnes, representing 52.7 institutions, and thus gain market access. per cent of the national cereal demand of 300,000 tonnes. The other initiative is to build slaughter facilities during the 2021/2022 financial year to be accessed by small Horticultural Production has shown significant growth scale farmers so that they too can supply wholesome in 2020 reflecting an increase in the area planted and meat. This will enable them to access market which will farmer participation. From April 2020, horticultural normally be for large scale farmers only.

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In another development, a citizen-owned hatchery with In an effort to increase access to markets while the cattle 3 000 parent stock has been established in Letlhakane industry is being resuscitated or restructured, live cattle and started production in January 2021. The hatchery are exported for slaughter. To date, a total of 56 373 cattle has contracted seven out growers who will raise day-old have been exported under this dispensation, of which 55 chicks to point of lay. This means that the restriction 620 were sold to the Republic of South Africa and 753 on import of pullets will be effected in the near future to the Republic of Namibia. Government has re-visited because farmers will be required to buy locally produced the restructuring of the Botswana Meat Commission pullets, and only import when the local production (BMC) to entail building its business model afresh cannot meet the demand. These developments are a to accommodate the interests of all stakeholders. The demonstration that more opportunities are opening up process will specifically adopt the following key aspects: for other players in the poultry industry. putting in place the meat regulator, liberalising the beef Mr Chairperson, under the dairy sub-sector, 5 352 914 export market and turning BMC into an economically litres of milk was produced in the 2020/2021 financial viable business as a corporatised entity, ensuring that year, compared to 6 453 398 litres in the 2019/2020 all stakeholders benefit equitably across the value chain. financial year. The decrease was due to an outbreak The process although at consultative stage is scheduled of Brucellosis at some dairy farms which resulted in to take place during this financial year. culling of 441 cows. We expect the situation to improve Mr Chairperson, in an effort to improve the genetic since the culled cows have been replaced. In addition, production potential of the national herd, the ministry some private dairy companies have programmes to continues to provide Artificial Insemination (AI) import more cows in the 2021/2022 financial year. services to farmers through 13 active AI camps. In the This initiative coupled with the ministry’s funding financial year 2020/2021 breeding season, a total of 4 for expansion of some already established dairies and 044 cows have been entered into the AI camps. The milk parlours under the Industry Support Fund (ISF), current breeding season is continuing until March 31st and farmer accelerator programme will certainly take 2021. production of milk in the country to another level. Mr Chairperson, the ministry through the Foot and Current Government support programmes such as Livestock Management and Infrastructure Development Mouth Disease (FMD) project has managed to maintain (LIMID) and special Integrated Support Programme the FMD free status of the country. However, we for Arable Agriculture Development (ISPAAD) enable experienced an outbreak in Nxamasere extension area farmers to provide and care for their livestock with in the North West District, which was successfully water, adequate animal husbandry and fodder support. controlled in October 2020.

During the financial year 2019/2020, a total of 4 396 As a continuous precautionary measure, my ministry is projects were implemented at a cost of Seventy-Four always embarking on strengthening of cordon fences Million, Four Hundred and Twenty-One Thousand, in areas of high FMD risk and in FMD free-zones to Four Hundred and Sixty-Nine Pula (P74 421 469), minimise wildlife damage and human vandalism. compared to 3 394 projects implemented at a cost of Sixty-Seven Million, Six Hundred and Twenty-Nine The upgrading of the Botswana Animal Information and Thousand, Eight Hundred and Eighty-Eight Pula (P67 Traceability System (BAITS) for operational efficiency 629 888) in financial year 2020/2021. A larger share of has been completed. My ministry has managed to about 80 per cent of the LIMID budget is utilised by carry out traceability of animals in the country, with the resource poor component, while 20 per cent goes to approximately 70 per cent of the animals tagged. The infrastructure development component. statistics as captured on the system are as follows; 651 Mr Chairperson, I wish to indicate that LIMID and 336 keepers have been registered in the BAITS system, special ISPAAD programmes will be evaluated and 14 425 holdings have been registered across the country, ultimately reviewed in the financial year 2021/2022 501 holdings compliant for the European Union (EU) to determine their impact on livestock industry and market access, 2 790 949 animals have been registered align the objectives of the programme to the ministry’s by farmers with the assistance by agents in BAITS cafes transformation agenda. countrywide.

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My ministry will embark on a small stock traceability amongst them like Farmers Accelerator Subsidy and ISF system at the beginning of the financial year 2021/2022. are already being registered for access by farmers with The overall objective of this initiative is to facilitate the assistance of Citizen Entrepreneurial Development access to international markets for local chevon and Agency (CEDA) and National Development Bank mutton (small stock meat). (NDB) financial institutions. An amount of P100 million is set aside for the ISF, and further P20 million under Mr Chairperson, the ministry has kick-started a process Farmer Accelerator Programme in the offing. of developing a Botswana Agricultural Information Management System (BAIMS) in an effort to digitise The ERTP packages include the following: up-scaling and digitalise its systems. The objective of the BAIMS horticulture production, implementing the small-stock project is to develop a centralised national agricultural and beef value chain strategies, enhancing the poultry sector database and portal automating of all processes of sub-sector, accelerating apiculture, facilitating dairy Ministry of Agriculture and its stakeholders. development, developing the aquaculture sector, as well as increasing grain production. This is expected to lead RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT to a significant reduction in the import bill. The ERTP Mr Chairperson, the establishment of the National packages starts this financial year. Agricultural Research and Development Institute PROPOSED MINISTRY BUDGET FOR 2021/2022 (NARDI) by merging of the functions of the National Food Technology Research Centre (NFTRC), the Mr Chairperson, allow me now to present the Recurrent National Veterinary Laboratory (NVL) and the and Development Budget proposals for my ministry. Department of Agricultural Research (DAR) had progressed to almost its logical conclusion, until we A total of Two Billion, Three Hundred and Seventy experienced serious budget constraints. The original Million, Four Hundred and Ninety-Seven Thousand, st plan of establishing the merger by 1 April 2021 will Five Hundred and Ten Pula (P2 370 497 510) for both have to be revisited and the merger will be carried out Recurrent and Development Budget is proposed for my in phases. ministry for the financial year 2021/2022. Mr Chairperson, one big step to move towards This amount is made up of One Billion, Three Hundred food security in arable farming is to empower local and Ninety-One Million, Nine Hundred and Ninety- companies to continue to increase their participation in seed production. Four local companies have been Seven Thousand, Five Hundred and Ten Pula (P1 391 registered to multiply seed of varieties released by the 997 510) for the Recurrent Budget, and Nine Hundred ministry in 2020/2021. The total area planted of each and Seventy-Eight Million, Five Hundred Thousand crop is; maize; variety Bread Waste Meal (BWM) Pula (P978 500 000) for the Development Budget. 401 is 150 hectares, sorghum; variety Sephala is 60 hectares, while cowpeas; variety INIA 37 and Tswana RECURRENT BUDGET 2021/2022 is 40 and 80 hectares respectively. This will contribute The ministry’s Recurrent Budget proposal for the year to employment creation and reduction in the import is One Billion, Three Hundred and Ninety-One Million, bill. The ministry continues to engage local companies Nine Hundred and Ninety-Seven Thousand, Five and farmers to produce seeds and three citizen-owned Hundred and Ten Pula (P1 391 997 510). companies have been engaged to produce 150 tons’ cowpeas and 550 tons’ maize to the value of P3.85 The ministry’s five parastatal organisations namely; million. Botswana University of Agriculture and Natural Resources (BUAN), Botswana Agricultural Marketing ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND Board (BAMB), Botswana Meat Commission (BMC)- TRANSFORMATION PLAN (ERTP) Maun, National Research and Development Institute Mr Chairperson, in an effort to mitigate the impact of (NARDI) and National Food Technology Research COVID-19 on the agricultural sector, my ministry is Centre (NFTRC) have been allocated a total provision implementing the ERTP. The plan is to enhance and of Two Hundred and Ninety-Nine Million, Four hundred strengthen agricultural production by providing support and Thirty-Two Thousand, Eight Hundred and Ten Pula and assistance to farmers. Some finance packages (P299 432 810).

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The allocation per organisation as follows: Four Million, The 2021/2022 Development budget will be used Four Hundred and Forty Thousand, Nine Hundred and mainly for the projects as indicated below; Twenty Pula (P4,440,920) to Botswana Agricultural Marketing Board (BAMB); Two Hundred and Twenty- 0501 - MOA Headquarters – Three Hundred and Eight Seven Million and Fifty-Three Thousand, Four Hundred Million, Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P308,500,000) and Sixty Pula (P227,053,460) to Botswana University 0503 - Crop Production – Three Hundred and Thirteen of Agriculture and Natural Resources (BUAN); Twenty- Million Pula (P313 000 000) Three Million, Seven Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pula (P23,750,000) to Botswana Meat Commission (BMC)- 0504 - Agricultural Research –Fifty-Six Million Pula Maun, Twenty Million (P20 000 000) to National (P56 000 000) Agricultural Research and Development Institute (NARDI) and Twenty Four Million, One Hundred and 0506 - Botswana University of Agriculture and Natural Eighty-Eight Thousand, Four Hundred and Thirty Pula Resources (BUAN) – Ninety-Four Million Pula (P94 (P24, 188, 430) to National Food Technology Research 000 000) Centre (NFTRC). 0507 - Animal Production – One Hundred and Seventy Mr Chairperson, the proposed total allocation for Million Pula (P170 000 000) the ministry’s departments excluding parastatals is 0510 - Veterinary Services – Thirty-Seven Million Pula One Billion, and Ninety-Two Million, Five Hundred (P37 000 000) and Sixty-Four Thousand, Seven Hundred Pula (P1,092,564,700).The breakdown per department is CONCLUSION as follows: One Hundred and Thirteen Million, Seven Mr Chairperson, this concludes my presentation of the Hundred and Seventy-Four Thousand Five Hundred and Twenty Pula (P113,774,520) for ministry headquarters; 2021/2022 Recurrent and Development Budget for my Two Hundred and Twenty-Nine Million, One Hundred ministry. I therefore, move that the sum of One Billion, and Four Thousand, Seven Hundred and Fifty Pula Three Hundred and Ninety-One Million, Nine Hundred (P229,104,750) for the Department of Crop Production; and Ninety-Seven Thousand, Five Hundred and Ten Ninety-Seven Million, One Hundred and Seven Pula (P1,391,997,510) under Recurrent Estimates and Thousand, Two Hundred and Fifty Pula (P97,107,250) the sum of Nine Hundred And Seventy-Eight Million, for Department of Agricultural Research; One Hundred Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P978.500,000) under and Forty-Six Million, Four Hundred and Ninety- the Development Estimates be approved and stand as Seven Thousand, Three Hundred and Thirty Pula part of the Schedule and the estimates. I thank you Mr (P146,497,330) for Department of Animal Production; Chairperson. Thirty Six Million, Four Hundred and Eleven Thousand, Three Hundred Pula (P36,411,300) for Department of MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, Agricultural Business Promotions; Four Hundred and SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT Forty-Six Million, One Hundred and Seven Thousand, (MR RAKGARE): On a point of procedure. Mr Five Hundred and Forty Pula (P446,107,540) for Chairperson thank you very much. Ke re kana gongwe Department of Veterinary Services and Twenty-Three go botlhokwa for motho to retract what I said last week Million, Five Hundred and Sixty-Two Thousand and Ten Pula (P23,562,010) for Department of Agricultural mo Palamenteng, gore re kgone go tswelela, fa o letla. Research Statistics and Policy Development. Ke a leboga.

DEVELOPMENT BUDGET 2021/2022 MR CHAIRPERSON: I do not know what you said, you said so many things, I cannot remember. The Development Budget proposal for the Financial ...(Inaudible)... year 2021/2022 is Nine Hundred and Seventy-Eight Million, Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P978,500,000). MR RAKGARE: Ee rra, e ne ya re beke e e fetileng The budget reflects a decline of One Hundred and Fifty- ga bo go raya gore Mapalamente ka go farologana, ba Eight Million, Eight Hundred Thousand Pula (P158, kganetso, ba supa gore kana Tautona o na le dikgwebo 800,000) which is 14 per cent decrease of the current mo mme golo moo ga go beye lefatshe sentle, e bile ga financial year. go beye Ofisi ya ga Tautona sentle mo setšhabeng.

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Honourable Rakgare le certificate, ba land board tse dingwe ba tlaa bo ba re, Order! Honourable Rakgare, we are not dealing with nnyaa le ya kwa khanseleng le ya go kopa gore physical that right now, we are dealing with the budget… planners ba dire plans. E bo e ya kwa private planners, ba e leng gore madi a bone ke matsebetsebe. Kgang e HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee, o batla go dia Honourable Minister le tshwanetse gore le e kopanele nako, o dira sentle Mr Chairperson, ga re na nako ya le ba ba amegang ba Local Government, ka gore kgang matshamekwane. o ka re e tswa kwa khanseleng, ya gore ba tshwanetse MR CHAIRPERSON: Ga ke a re ke kopa gore le gore ba ye go kopa go direlwa physical planning, gore nthuseng. e baakanngwe, e tlhamalale. Re itse gore tota fela go tshwanetse go diragale ka tsela e e ntseng jang. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O tlaa bua fela… (Inaudible)… Se sengwe bagaetsho ke kgang ya Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agriculture Development MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Honourable Members, (ISPAAD). Go tshwanetse gore go tlhalosege gompieno the floor is open, I give the floor to Honourable Dr tota gore ra reng ka balemi ba e leng gore jaaka le itse Gobotswang. go ne ga nna le madiadia ngwaga ono mo temong e re leng mo go yone, go sa itlhalosege gore a ISPAAD e DR GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- teng, le gore e tsamaya ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Balemi RAMOKGONAMI): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke ne ba bangwe ba feletse ba lemile, ba dirisitse dipeo tsa ke re ke simolole ka gore ka maabane re ne re le mo bone. Jaanong fa ba lemile ba dirisitse dipeo tsa bone, letsatsing le le tona la bomme, ke batla go simolola ka go fa ba setse ba re ba ya go kopa dithuso tsa gore go bua ka seabe sa bomme mo dikgannye tsa temo le leruo duelwe boraditerekere, o kare gatwe go ntshitswe kana go ntsha dijo mo lefatsheng le. Bomaitsaanape molaetsa wa gore, fa o ne o sa ikwadisa dipeo go botlhe le batlhotlhomise, go a dumalanwa gore bomme raya gore ga o ka ke wa thusiwa ka tsa temo. Ke re ke bone ba ba di rweleng kwa tlhogong fa go tla mo go kgang eo Tona le tshwanetse gore le e tlhamalatse, go ntsheng dijo, bogolo jang thata mo baleming ba ba kwa utlwale gore gatweng ka yone, gore go thusiwe batho. tlase kana ba ba botlana, ba ba bidiwang subsistence Batho ba a sokola. Ke lebogela kgang ya maloba e o farmers. Le nna ke batla gore ke bue jalo, gore re lemoge kareng Honourable Manake o ne a e ganetsa ya gore kgang e ya bomme. go sekwasekwa ISPAAD, mme ISPAAD e e tlang Fa godimo ga moo re lemoge gore bomme ba ba itekang gatwe e tlaa nna output based. Letsatsi leno ke utlwile maiteko a a kanakana ba na le mathata ka gore ba na le a tsamaelana le ka fa nne Tautona le Rre Matsheka ba go tlhoka ditsompelo, di a ba tlhaela. Lefatshe le lone ke buile ka teng, gore go tlile go nna jalo. mathata, o fitlhele ba sena lefatshe, ka gore bontsi jwa Jaanong bagaetsho ke batla go tsena mo kgannyeng ya bone o fitlhele e le bomme ba gongwe ba eteletseng pele nama ya dipodi e e tlhabeletswang thatathata ke rraetsho malwapa a bone. Mo go rayang gore tota ba na le bothata. Tautona. Kgang e e neng e ntse e le teng ke gore, golo fa Jaanong re tshwanetse gore re lebelele dikgang tse di ba gatweng, a go na le mmaraka kana ga go na mmaraka, ka kgoreletsang fa go tla mo go reng ba tle ba inaakanye le gore Tautona o boleletse setšhaba gantsintsi a ipoeletsa temo. O bona dikgang tsa go abelana diekere, motho a fa gore, o bone mmaraka kwa mafatsheng a seArabea. yo mongwe ekere mo tshimong ya gagwe, re tshwanetse Jaanong maloba re utlwile Tona a batla go supa gore, re bone gore re di tlhofofatsa jang, gore bomme ba ke nnyaa o kare mmaraka ga o ise o bonwe. Ke re kgang e buang ka bone ba ba nne le gore ba thusiwe, go sena e tlhalosege sentle, gore sentlentle ra reng? dikgangkgang tse di thata. Ka gore mo gongwe mo e Gape ke ne ke batla gore Tona, e re pele ga re tswelela leng boswa, gongwe e le motsadi wa bone a leka go ka kgang e ya dipodi ya nama ya dipodi, a ko o tle o ba kgaoganyetsa lefatshe la gagwe…(Inaudible)… rolele setšhaba gore go diragetse jang ka thulaganyo e le tshimo ya gagwe a batla go e kgaoganyetsa bana ya mmantšhe? Ka gore fa o lebelela thulaganyo e ya ba gagwe, go nna dingalo mo go maswe, o kare ga nama ya dipodi ka fa e tsamayang ka teng, e tsamaya go itlhalose sentle gore ba tshwanetse go dira ka tsela fela jaaka thulaganyo ya bommantšhe e tsamaile ka e e ntseng jang. Ke raya bomme le Batswana fela ka teng. E tlhabelediwa ke Tautona, ga dirwa matlhabelo kakaretso. Ba tlaabo ba ya kwa land board ba re ba ya a bommantšhe. Ga iwa kwa Dibete go ya go dirwa go kopa gore ba kgaoganyetswe lefatshe, e bile ba nne thulaganyo ya gore go ka okediwa bommantšhe ka tsela

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e e ntseng gotwe go na le mmaraka. E kae thulaganyo gore ba ya kwa multi-species abattoirs. Ba ipotsa gore ya bommantšhe Honourable Minister? Re tshwanetse bone ke ba gamang ka gore ga go tlhalosege sentle gore go e bolelelwa ka gore ka fa le tsamayang ka teng, le tota mebaraka ya merogo le maungo, tota seemo sa yone tsamaya fela jaaka le ne le tsamaya ka bommantšhe. ke eng ka gore ga re ka ke ra tswelela fela ka tsela e e Go tlhabeletsa Tautona; ‘go ya go agiwa matlhabelo ntseng jaana. kwa Tsabong, Lobu le ene o ema ka dinao.’ We are investing madi a mantsi mo dithulaganyong tse gongwe Kgang ya bofelo e ke batlang go bua ka yone ke ya gore di ka se keng tsa re isa gope. Ga e ka ke ya re Domkrag kgang e tona ke ya gore e bo e le gore re le lefatshe, re e paletswe ke matlhabelo a a neng a le teng a setse a tsweledisa fela re sena policy ya agriculture. Ga re ka tsamaisiwa sentle a phutlhame, ke eng tota se se le ke ra tswelela ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Go botlhokwa rayang le re le ka kgona gompieno jaana gore le bo le re thata gore policy ya agriculture e dirwe e goroge mo le ka tla ka matlhabelo a a matswakabele jaaka a dipodi Palamenteng. le dinku? BMC e phutlhame kwa Lobatse, Francistown Selo se sengwe gape ke gore ga re kgone go ipeela dielo le Maun ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Re ya go kgona jang go tsa gore tota fa re re re batla ijesa gore re nne le dijo, diragatsa thulaganyo e? mašhi, merogo le mae a a lekaneng, tota ra re re ya go Fa e ne e le gore le bone market, a batho ba market, ijesa leng? Re tshwanetse go itse gore re berekela mo go maArabia ba ka dumela fela gore dipodi tsa rona di ye eng ka gore jaaka Makgoa a bua, ‘that which you cannot koo ba ise ba bone gore abattoir ya rona go ntse jang? measure, you cannot manage.’ Ke batho ba ba nang le ditumelo. Ba tshwanetse go bona Gape oversight ya rona re le Palamente, re ya go dira jang gore re tlhaba dipodi kana dinku tsa rona ka tsela e e gore re bone gore Matona tota ba dira se se tshwanetseng ntseng jang. Go na le bo Halal le dikgang tse di ntseng go sena dielo tse ba di ipeetseng? Dikgang tsa bo jalo tse ba dumelang mo go tsone. monitoring and evaluation di nna dingalo. Dikgang tsa bo oversight e nna mathata fela a a tlhatlaganeng. Ke Go na le kgang e ke batlang go tsena mo go yone ya dikgang tse ke sa tlhaloganyeng gore gatwe mathata ke lefatshe. Re tshwanetse go dumalana gore re lemogeng eng gore ga re ka ke ra ipeela dielo gore re bo re itse gore ka fa re tsamaisang lefatshe ka teng, o kare go tlaa gore ngwaga le ngwaga re tsamaya fa kae ka tsone. nna dingalo. Thulaganyo e re neng re ntse re e dirisa ya gore motho a bo a na le tshimo, motse kwa Mochudi, Kgang e nngwe e re e buileng gantsintsi e e kgoreletsang tshimo kwa Oliphant’s Drift le moraka kwa Sojwe, ke temo ya rona, e e itshupileng gantsi gore ke yone kgang e re tshwanetseng go e ela tlhoko bagaetsho. mangmang, ke ya ka fa go rekwang dijalo tsa balemi Ke akanya gore nako e gorogile ya gore re lebelele, re ka teng. Re solofela gore fa go ntse gotwe output-based sekaseke gore motho o tshwanetse gore a direle dilo jaana, go tewa gore gongwe dijalo tsa balemi di tlaa tsa gagwe, a di rulaganye golo go le gongwefela fa go rekwa ka tlhwatlhwa e e rileng. Gompieno jaana o tlaa kgonegang teng, bogolo jang thata tshimo le moraka, fitlhela gotwe go bewa price ya mabele a Botswana ka di bo di bapile kana di le golo go le gongwefela for price ya South Africa, mme kwa South Africa ba reka management purposes. Ga o ka ke wa tlhola o tsamaya dijalo le tse dingwe ka ditlhwatlhwa tse di siameng ka trips tse di kanakana… gore go a gaisanngwa mme kwano ke monopoly. Ke dilo tse di tshwenyang. “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” Kgang e nngwe e e tshwenyang mo temong ke ya MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Honourable Dr extension. Re na balemisi ba gompieno ke moka e leng Gobotswang, good afternoon Honourable Members. bo Clerks. Ga ba sa tlhole jaanong ba dira tiro ya bone Go kopiwa elucidation from Honourable Manake. e ba tshwanetseng gore ba tswe ba ye go ruta batho ka fa go tshwanetseng go lemiwa ka teng. Ka mafoko ao DR GOBOTSWANG: Nnyaa, nako e e khutshwanyane. Modulasetilo, ke a leboga. O tlaa tla a elucidate fa go ntse go tsweletswe. MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Modulasetilo, go na le kgang ya batho ba ba lemang Honourable Dr Gobotswang. Good afternoon merogo ba le bone ba ipelaetsang. Ba ipelaetsa ka gore Honourable Members. The floor is now for Honourable batho ba ba lemang dijalo, ba a itse gore fa di tswa fa Molale who will be followed by Honourable Lesaso di ya kwa Marketing Board. Ba dikgomo ba a itse gore and followed by Honourable Lesedi in that order. di ya BMC. Ba dinku ba setse e bile ba rulaganyetswa Honourable Molale, the floor is yours.

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MR BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): Thank you Ke batla go tlhamalala fela ke re re amogela multi- Mr Chairperson. Ke tlaa tsenelela Honourable Molale, species abattoir e e agiwang kwa Tsabong ka diatla o kopile gore ke mo tsenelele. Tanki Mr Chairperson. tsoopedi le fa ke utlwile mokaulengwe mongwe a batla go e šhašhola, a batla go e latlhela kgakala, a MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Brooks, are you batla go tlhakanya lefatshe maikutlo, segolo jang batho sure about Honourable Molale? ba kgaolo ya me ba ba sa leng ba emetse matlhabelo MR BROOKS: 100 per cent sure, o rile o tlaabo a seyo a dihutshane, a maemo a a tshwanang le one ao Mr sir. Chairperson. Ke maiteko. Re tshwanetse ra ruta batho gore setlogelwa tsatsing se ikisa moriting. Fa Puso e re MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND agela matlhabelo a a tshwanang le one ale, re le banni RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Mr ba kgaolo ya Kgalagadi segolobogolo, re tshwanetse go Chairperson, ke teng. Ke ne ke boleletse Chief Whip ema ka dinao re bone gore re ka tla ka tshetsana efe e e gore I am giving way for my slot. Jaanong ga ke itse tlaa tsayang mole ya isa pele. Ga re a tshwanela go bona gore go tsentswe mang, a ke Brooks kana mang. It is up matlhabelo a agilwe, o le Puso o tswa kwa o tswang to the Chief Whip sir. teng o tla go re tsamaisetsa matlhabelo, semangmang tswa kwa o tswang teng o tla go re thusa matlhabelo. Re GOVERNMENT WHIP (MR KABLAY): Ke tshwanetse ya re morago ga kago ya matlhabelo, re bo Honourable Brooks; re rometse molaetsa jalo sir. re setse re ipaakantse. MR CHAIRPERSON: Okay. Honourable Brooks, The Farmers Associations tsa kgaolo ya Kgalagadi then Honourable Lesaso and Honourable Lesedi in that le lefatshe la Botswana ka bophara, re tshwanetse order. go bula matlho gore fa go nnang le tshono teng, re e MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mma ke dirise gore re kgone go thusa le go tsamaisa itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana. Re ka e tsamaisa fela jalo fa tseye nako go leboga Tona, segolo jang ke mo eme re ka tshwaragana, ra kitlana mo go tshwanetseng Mr nokeng mo kgannyeng e ya gagwe. Chairperson. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Mr Chairperson, ke batla go tlhamalala fela ke kope Chairperson. Tona gore mo malobeng, go ne go na le thulaganyo e e MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai, do neng e thusa thata. Ke batla go go raya ke re rraetsho fa o you want to put your procedure through the chat box? dumela gore temo-thuo ke yone mokokotlo wa itsholelo Honourable Brooks. ya lefatshe la Botswana ka jaana Motswana a sa kope gope, a tshela ka temo-thuo fela, a sa tabogele gope, a MR BROOKS: Mr Chairperson, ke lebogela Tona itse gore o tshwanetse gore a tseye namane, podinyana gore a bo a tlisitse kopo ya ngwaga o wa madi ka fa a e le ditswa temong tsa gagwe a ye go di rekisa, a duele ba beileng ka teng mo Palamenteng e. Le fa re tshwanelwa ba tlhotseng ba mo thusa go tlhagola le ditiro tse dingwe ke gore re mo eme nokeng, ke supe dintlha di le pedi di tse di tsamaelanang le temothuo. le tharo ka fa kgaolo le ka fa ke ka akanyang gore re ka thusanya ka tsone go tlhabolola temo-thuo mo lefatsheng Re tshwanetse ra tla ka lenaneo lengwe le le ka ba la Botswana. Gongwe ke mo lebogele maiteko a gagwe thusang, la ba tlhofofaletsa go dira ditiro tseo. Re boele a ngogola le Rural Development Council (RDC) go bo kwa segologolong kwa re neng re bona Goromente a ba ile go gata kwa Lobu. Golo moo ka bogone, e ne epela batho didiba, a gogela batho metsi, gongwe se re ya re ba sena go tswa kwa Lobu Mr Chairperson, ga ka se fetolang mo seemong sa gompieno, ke go duela. Fa o epa, fa ditshekatsheko di supang gore go na le dira gore Matona ka bobone, bakaulengwe ba bangwe le metsi teng, re bo re a gogela kwa dipolaseng, merakeng batho ba lefatshe la Botswana ka kakaretso ba simolole le kwa dikgaolong tse di kwa ntle, kwa Batswana ba go tlhaloganya gore Lobu kana Kgalagadi o na le eng. tlaa kgonang go gokela metsi ao, ka madinyana a e seng Le fa ba ne ba sa ya go reka kwa Lobu, re bona dikoloi a sepe a ba tlaa duelang mo nakong e ntse e tsamaya, jaaka trailers di boaboa kwa Kgalagadi ba reka dipodi, go go thusa ditshenyegelo ka fa o tlaabong o dira ka ba leka go tsosolosa itsholelo ya kgaolo ya rona e e teng. Go ka dira gore temothuo e gole ka lebelo le le itshetletseng thata ka leruo le le sesame. tseneletseng, e re kamoso re le lefatshe le le nnyennyane

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jaana, la population e e kana, re kgone go jesa lefatshe thuse. Re atolose le network, re thuse gore network ya la rona le mafatshe a Southern African Development phones e re ke le kwa morakeng, ke kgone go tsena in Community (SADC). the system, ke tsenye dikgomo tsa me, morui a itumelele gore ga a tsamaye up and down a ya go tsamaya mokenti O na le bosupi gore ka maikaelelo a mantle a gago a go kwa Kokotsha, a ya go kwadisa kwa Makanyane, a boe letlelela barui go rekisa dikgomo ka kwa ntle di tshela, kwa Makanyane a ye go tsaya lepodise kwa Werda. re setse re jesa Aforika Borwa le Namibia, re ba thusa Batho ba Makanyane fa ba sa tseye mapodise a Werda, to support the outside market. Ke tswelela ke itse gore, ba tsaya mapodise a Lorolwane le Mabule fela jalo, o okeditse up to the end of July. BMC rra, o supa gore le kwa Boshoek, golo mo go ba imetsa morwalo. Ke o ikaelela gore o e baakanye, mme ka o santse o leka gore o na le costs tse di fetang tsa kgomo e o ka bong go tlhatswa diatla tsa BMC, letlelela barui gore ba nne o e rekisa. Dilo tse ga di tsamaelane gotlhelele Tona, re ka tsholofelo ya gore o ya go ba okeletsa go fitlhelela tshwanetse ra batla seemo se re tlaa se keng re iphitlhela BMC e le fully operational, ke gone o ka re busetsang re sokodisa barui ba kgaolo ya Kgalagadi. O tswa kwa mo teng rraetsho. Ke dilo dingwe tse re tshwanetseng re Kokotsha, Leherwane, Tshanetshane, o ya Khawa kana di lebalebe. Struizendam o ya go batla lepodise le mokenti gore o tle Le fa go ntse jalo Tona, fa o ketlolaketlola madi ka fa o go ntshediwa permit. Dilo tse ke dikgoreletsi tse di seng neng o a ketlola ka teng, ga ke a utlwa o tsenya Lobu mo kana ka sepe Tona, mo diemong tse go senang tsela. teng. Maloba o iponetse ka matlho gore terata le hostels Diofisi tsa gago mo lefatsheng lotlhe la Botswana, a tsa Lobu di mo seemong se se ntseng jang. Ga ke a utlwa ko o di lebelele gore dikoloi di nne teng, e nne dikoloi o na le maikaelelo ape a go oketsa kana paakanyo e e tse di tshelang. Motho fa a batla go go raya a re, ke na kalokalo Rraetsho Tona. Ga ke a utlwa o bua ka gore o le seemo kwa morakeng kana kwa tshimong, diji di a batla gore go ye go diriwa dipatlisiso (research) tsa dijo ntshwenya, mokenti a emelele gone foo. O fokoletse le tsa ditswammung tse di farologanyeng mo lefatsheng the extension officers tsa gago tsa ditshimo, ratio ya la Botswana. Fa re bua ka agriculture le ka Botswana batho. O fitlhela extension officer a le mongwefela kwa University of Agriculture and Natural Resources Tsabong, a bereka Tsabong ole otlhe Mr Minister, e nna (BUAN), e ke tshelang ke bua gore ke batla go e bona e mathata. Re tshwanetse re tlhofofaletse batho, re ba fe na le sekidinyana sa lefatshe kwa Lobu. Ga ke a utlwa palo e e rileng, re lebile botona jwa tshimo gore o ya o tsena mo teng, mme nako e gorogile ya gore o ketlole go nna nako e e kae, a dira eng, kana ga a tshwanela go nako e santse e le teng, re tle re kgone gore re go thuse shankodisa fa a dira tiro e e kanakana gore Motswana a go tsenya pressure ya dikgang tse di tshwanang le tse itshetse. Re tshwanetse ra itshetsa ka temothuo le dilo Tona. tse di tshwanang le tseo.

Tona, a ko o tsenye leitlho thata mo Ministry of Mr Minister, ke supe jalo rraetsho gore re go eme nokeng Investment and Trade. Thulaganyo e ya CEDA, e e leng mo kopong e ya gago ya letsatsi la gompieno. Tswelela nngwe ya dithulaganyo tse di neng di ka go thusa gore o kgabise le naga, o kgabise kgaolo ya Kgalagadi, maikaelelo a gago o a fitlhelele, ya go fa barui madi, o boeboe at your project e o e agang kwa Tsabong, o ka fa ba bo ba baya sesana se se ba kgoreletsang. Kwa boeboe kwa Lobu, e nne an area of excellence. Ka tsela ofising ya gago kwa Tsabong ya agriculture, the Range e e ntseng jalo, re ka go itumelela thata rraetsho. Mr Ecologist e e batliwang, applications are now 57 as we Chairperson, ke a leboga ka mafoko a a kalo, ke go eme speak, since January this year. O ka bona gore go tlhoka nokeng gore madi a tswe a ye kwa baruing. Range Ecologist kwa Tsabong, e nna sekgoreletsi, post MR LESASO (SHOSHONG): Thank you Mr e teng mme ga a yo. Mathata ke gore, gore a tle, o ya Chairperson. Ke go leboge go bo o mphile tshono go kgona leng mo nakong e e kae go sena dipalamo, go ya gore ke buise pego e ya ga Tona wa Agricultural na le dikgwetlho tse dingwe tsa tiro ya ofisi ya gagwe, Development and Food Security. Ke mo leboge, ka go ka kgona gore a ye go sekaseka (assess) batho ba maiteko a ba ntseng ba tsweletse ka one go leka go ba kanakana. Dilo tse e nna a drawback, Batswana ba tlisetsa Batswana dijo mo lefatsheng la Botswana le go simolola go re tlhoboga ka tsela e e ntseng jalo Tona. ba tlhabolola mo temothuong.

Dilo tse re tshwanetse re bule matlho, re tsene kwa re Ke na le dintlha dingwe, ke tlaa simolola ka Kgaolo ya itseng re ka thusa teng. A re tswe mo diofising tsa rona me ya botlhophi ya Shoshong. Balemi-barui ba tlhoka Tona, re ye go buisa Batswana kwa dikgaolong, re ba thuso, gore re nne productive, re tshwanetse gore fa

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re tsamayang teng, go nne le ditsela. We need access kgona go tswa mo lehumeng. Le gore bontsi jwa bone roads gore re kgone go goroga kwa temothuo e leng ba kgone go tswa mo namola-leuba jaaka e ntse gore ba teng. Ke bua jaana re na le farms fela tse dintsi tse di kgone go itirela madi, ba itshetse, ba tshetse ba malwapa bidiwang the Sandveld, tse ditsela tsa teng le di itseng a bone, ba kgone go nna le seriti le bone. lona barui ba ba leng teng ka kwa gore, ke metlhaba fela e e bokete, e e leng gore fa go ka nna le morui yo Mo gongwe mo ke buang ka gone ke mashi Mr gompieno a sa nonofang jaaka ba bantsi ba nonofile, go Chairperson. Re na le dipolase kwa kgaolong ya rona nna bokete gore a ye ka koo. tsa dikgomo tse e seng tsa mashi. Ke ne ke re Ministry wa Agriculture, o lebelele kgaolo ya rona gore ga gona Selo se sengwe sa bobedi ke motlakase o o tlhaelang mo fa ba ka tsayang nngwe ya dipolase, ba kgona go rua dipolaseng tsa sandveld. Ke leka go gakolola Ministry dikgomo tsa mashi. Fa e le gore re ka se ke re produce of Agricultural Development and Food Security gore mashi, mme ra rua dikgomo tseo, ra di tlhokomela, ra bogolo fa ba ka tsaya nngwe ya the farms ba e dira a kgona go rekisetsa dikgaolo tse dingwe tsa Botswana solar farm e e ka phatlalatsang motlakase mo kgaolong, dikgomo tsa mashi, re di rua re di ntsifatsa. Ke nngwe mo dipolaseng tsa Sandveld gore motlakase o nne gaufi ya dilo tse ke neng ke eletsa gore ba ka di lebelela Mr le batho. Kana technology e a tokafala malatsinyana Chairperson. a, go thusiwe batho ba dipolase. Information and Communications Technology (ICT) le Wi-Fi di nne Ke bua gape ka dikoko, kgaolo ya rona le yone re ka kgona go rua dikoko. A ko le re batlele bangwe ba teng, gore internet e kgone go nna easily available mo ba nonofetseng go ka re thusa mo kgaolong ya rona. dikgaolong tsa bone. Dikoko, dipodi le dikgomo di ka re direla ditiro, ra Re na le tsela Mr Chairperson, e e tswang kwa kgona go fokotsa mokgweleo jaaka Minister wa Local Government a neng a bua gore madi a mantsi a isiwa Mosolotshane e ya Moralane. E dirisiwa ke the farmers kwa bo Ipelegeng. Re kgone go itirela ditiro, re fokotse tsa dipolase ba ba tsamayang on a daily basis ba dirisa the burden ya madi a a isiwang kwa Ipelegeng, go bo go dikoloi tse dintsi, tsela e e nna e senyegile. Ke kopa oketsa batho ba ba kgonang go bereka koo. gore le e lebe tsela e, e nne tsela e le ka kgonang go e baakanya, ka gore ga e senngwe ke batho ba Moralane Ke batla go tsena mo kgannyeng e tota ke ntseng ke e le Mosolotshane, e senngwa ke batho ba temothuo, ba beile mo pelong e e ntshwenyang Mr Chairperson. Re dipolase tsa sandveld. na le disaster risk management e e leng gore gompieno tiro ya yone ga e bereke jaaka e tshwanetse go bereka. Go na le tsela e nngwe ke e Mr Chairperson, ya Dibete- Gompieno jaana e ka bo e thusa all sectors of economy, Poloka-Mokgenene. Tsela e ke buile ka yone thata Mr ba re fa real time data e e buang ka risks tse di teng, Chairperson, gore e kopanya boleng jwa temothuo data e e teng, mitigation responses tse di teng, tse di jwa dipolase tsa Sandveld le tsa Tuli Block, e kopanya tlhokafalang mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Jaaka go ne dikgaolo tse di ka kwa West le tse di kwa East. Ke go buiwa ka bo tsie e e tlang, gore ba kgone go bua ka prevention mitigation and all these things tse di ka nngwe ya ditsela tse di tshwanetseng gore di lebiwe, thusang gore batho ba agriculture ba ipaakanyetse dilo agriculture is involved, e ka kgona go thusa, bogolo ba tse di ntseng jaana. O kare ga e dire tiro ya yone sentle, e gope gore dikgomo tse di tswang kwa kgaolong ya maybe ke nako for it to be legislated e nne department Sandveld le tse di tlaabong di tswa ka fa East di ya gone fela e e tlaa nnang e eme, e se ka ya nna ad hoc e go kwa Sandveld, go nne le tsela e e siameng, ba ka kgona nnang go bitswa batho fale le fale ba tla mo go yone. gore ba tsamaye ka yone. Selo se sengwe Mr Chairperson, ke go bua ka Serowe Ke tshwenyegile Mr Chairperson, go na le batho ba Milk Parlor. Ke ne ke utlwa Minister wa Trade maabane mo dikgaolong tse di tshwanang le bo Dibete, Poloka, a bua gore ba batlile metlhale mengwe e e rileng ya go Mokgenene, Otse, Kodibeleng, Ikongwe le bo Moralane, bona gore before ba e simolola, gore e se ka ya tlhola ba gompieno go itseweng fela e le badisa, mme go e phutlhama… le Minister wa Agriculture a buisane sena ditiro tse di teng. Se ke se kopang ke gore Mr le bone ba ministry wa ga Pegzozo gore ba leke gore Chairperson, a ba direlwe mananeo a a ka ba thusang parlor ba e simolole fela jaaka ya Lobatse. Di tle di ka gore dingwe ditiro ba di ithutetse. Selo sa ntlha jaaka simolole go dira tiro, di na le bodiredi jo bo siameng, di lenaneo la ga Tautona la dipodi, a go ntshiwe dipolase di baakantswe. Ke raya Minister wa Trade gore ba e kope ka nna palo e e rileng tse batho ba ba ka ithuelang dipodi mo go wa Agriculture, ba e baakanye gore ba tle ba e tse ba na le dipolase tsa bone tse ba ka itshetsang, ba hand over e sena go siama.

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Mo gongwe mo go latelang Mr Chairperson, ke gore ke kgone to produce, e hire bana ba Shoshong, go nne le itumelela gore the poultry industry jaanong e ka re e na ditiro mo kgaolong ya Shoshong. Ka mafoko a a kalo, le tsela e e tsayang. It has been facilitated gore go nne ke a leboga, ke ne ke batla go latlhela go le kalo mo le bangwe ba ba kgonang go ntsha dikokwana, dikoko Agriculture. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. di se ka tsa nna di bonwa mo bangweng fela. Le bone ba kgone go ntsha dikokwana tseo, e se ka dikokwana tsa MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, followed tswa mo bathong ba le bangwefela, di kgone go tswa mo by His Honour the Vice President (VP). bathong ba re ba bitsang re re balemi ba ba nnyennyane. MR LESEDI (SEROWE SOUTH): Ke go leboge Mr Ba gole, ba kgone gore ba simolole go itirela, ba sa baya Chairperson. Re lebogele ka fa Tona a supang gore o mo go ba bangwe. Golo moo ke maiteko a mantle mo kopa go rebolelwa madi ka teng. Mr Chairperson, ke Lephateng la Agriculture. Ke a ba leboga gore ba bo ba supe gore a Tona a lebe ministry wa gagwe, e le one dira jalo. ministry fela o go itshupileng, bogolo jang jaaka fa re Se sengwe ke gore go ne go ntse go na le masimo a ne ra welwa ke segajaja sa COVID gore ke one o ka bidiwa a Arable Lands Development Programme ntshang dijo, wa jesa lefatshe, wa bo wa hira Batswana (ALDEP), a a neng a dirilwe mo merakeng. Ke kopa ba bangwe. Maloba re batlile go bolawa ke tlala, mme gore masimo ao le one a simolole go thusiwa ka temo, Minister fa a ka leba kgang e ka tlhoafalo, a leba gore o ka tsotlhe tse di thusiwang mo masimong a a teng mo ka tokafatsa temothuo e jang, ruri Batswana re ka tshela. lefatsheng la Botswana. Balemi ba ba kwa merakeng ba Ke supe gore e re ntswa le fa Tona a ne a ala pego ya kgone go itshetsa, ba lema ba le gaufi le meraka ya bone. gagwe, ga ke a utlwa thata gore a re BMC e kae. Kwa Ba se ka ba nna ba tsamaela kgakala le meraka gore ba ntleng ga gore ke utlwile a supa gore go na le mangwe kgone go lemela dikgomo le dipodi tsa bone go di jesa. madi a a tlaabong a ka thusa Maun BMC. Batswana ba ruile dikgomo tse e leng gore ga gona gope kwa ba di MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesaso, rekisang teng. A ko kgang e ya BMC Tona, o e bue fela Honourable Mathoothe is asking for clarification. o e papamatse, o supe gore tota gatwe seemo sa BMC ke MR LESASO: Nnyaa, nako ya me e khutshwane Mr eng? Gongwe le rona fa re le kwa dikgaolong, re tshwere Chairperson. Ke tshwenyegile gape Mr Chairperson, ka diphuthego, re bua le Batswana mo mabakeng afe fela a re kopanang le Batswana mo go one, re ba tlhalosetse Artificial Insemination (AI), jaaka ke bua, kgaolo ya me gore tota gatwe seemo sa BMC mo bogompienong ke ke nngwe ya dikgaolo tse di nang le dikgomo tse dintsi. eng. O tlaabo o utlwa gotwe dikgomo di tlaabo di rekwa Gompieno jaana ga go na AI e e gaufi le kgaolo ya me kwa Namibia, kaekae, golo mo Batswana ga ba ise ba ya Sandveld le Shoshong fela jalo. Ke ne ke kopa gore go itse. E bile tota kwa magaeng kwa, ga go ise go itsege le atumetse AIs, balemi-barui ba ba gaufi le dipolase tse, sentle, go tlhape gore gatwe go tlaabo go operate jang. ba kgone to benefit, ba tseye meroto ya dikgomo gone fa Ka tsweetswee, a ko Tona dikgang tse jaaka fa o kopa Sandveld. Ba kgone go ka tokafatsa dikgomo tsa bone madi rraetsho, e nne dingwe tse Batswana ba tlaa di gaufi le Shoshong. itseng ba bo ba di tlhaloganya. Go na le batho ba ba santseng ba nosa mo dinokeng Ke siane ke lebe kgang ya ditsela; rraetsho kwa masimo Mr Chairperson, gompieno jaana kana metlhaba e gone kwa go lemiwang teng, le kwa merakeng gone kgothegile mo dinokeng, ga go sa tlhole go na le kwa go ruetsweng teng, ga gona ditsela. A ko Tona metlhaba. Didiba tse ba neng ba di epile mo metlhabeng, mo lemmeng le o le kopileng le, ke a itse gore ga le ga di sa tlhole di na le metsi, a ko le ba thuseng le ba a lekana, mme a ko o bone gore o ka tsutlaganya jang epele didiba gaufi le dinoka tse gore ba dire clusters tse go bona gore go thusiwa balemi-barui. Balemi-barui ba ba ka kgonang go ga metsi. Metsi a fedile jaanong ba rona ba latlheletswe tota ka gore o tlaa fitlhela motho setse ba a nwa mo…(Inaudible)… kwa metlhabeng, ke a le koo, ga gona ka tsela epe e a yang koo ka yone. re ba thusiwe Mr Chairperson, ba kgone go nosa leruo Gompieno jaana ba lemile, mme go thata gore ba kgone la bone. go ya go goroga kwa masimo, bogolo jang ka dipaka tsa dipula. Ditsela tse di yang kwa masimo le kwa Mr Chairperson, ke bua gompieno ka cluster ya merakeng bagaetsho, ke ditsela fela tse e leng gore… Mmamabele e e teng kwa Shoshong, e thuseng. A ba le wena lephata la gago Tona, le ko le tseye boikarabelo e thuse e eme ka dinao, e tlhoka motlakase, ditsela le go thusa go bona gore balemi ba gorosa di tswa-temong didiba. A e simolole go emelwa ka dinao, le yone e jang mo magaeng. Jaanong ke supe gore…

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, Honourable Collection Centre o, ga go na ditsela le fa o kaya go o P.P.P. is asking for elucidation. baakanya Tona. Ke sone se ke neng ke re, fa o baakanya mo lefelong le ba le go fileng le, o dire ditsela. O ne o MR LESEDI: Ee mma ke mo fe, a kgabole ka pela, dirile ditsela ka Economic Stimulus Programme (ESP) nako e e khutshwanyane. mo lephateng la gago, o dira jaana gore ba ba ntshang MR MOATLHODI: Elucidation. Ke a leboga mashi, ba kgone go a gorosa at the plant a ise a senyege. Motlotlegi Modulasetilo. Good afternoon sir. Ke go Rraetsho, ke matsapa le maitapoloso ka gore o ne o di leboga thatathata Motlotlegi Lesedi mo kgannyeng e, dirile ka lenaneo la ESP le e leng gore gompieno jaana, ke dumalana le wena thata. Ke kopa ke khubame gore ga le sa tlhole le le teng. Ditsela di sule, ga di tsamaege, Tona, BMC ya Francistown, o e bolaile. Ema ka dinao e bile ke diselaga. Culverts tse di neng di dirilwe, jaaka o tsose BMC ya Francistown. Ke lebogile Motlotlegi maloba re tlhalositse, e ne e le tsa boleng jo bo kwa tlase. Lesedi. Go ne go se na supervision e e tseneletseng. Culverts di tsamaile, go worse go gaisa kwa tshimologong. Earth MR LESEDI: Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke road le fa e ka nna ya gravel, o a itse gore go nna boammaaruri go ntse jalo. Bagaetsho, a seemo sa BMC pharologanyo. Bogolo fa ba ne ba tlogetse earth roads, se tlhape, re utlwe gore gatweng. go ka bo go le botoka. Ba ka bo ba itse gore ba ka pota kae le kae. Mma ke siane ke supe kgang e ya diterata tsa matlhoko a leruo; Tona, jaaka o kopa madi jaana, o lebe diterata Rraetsho, fa ke ya kwa go e ya dikokwana; ke batla o tsa matlhoko a leruo (cordon fences). Diterata tse di e lebe ka leitlho le le tseneletseng. Barui ba Botswana, sule, fa re ka tlhagogelwa ke bolwetse jwa Tlhako le bogolo jang banana le bagwebi ba ba botlana ba ba Molomo, jaaka bo ntse bo re bokabokela jaana, go tlile eletsang go itshimololela dikgwebo tsa dikokwana, ba go nna turu go gaisa jaaka fa go ntse gompieno. Gone a sokola. Ga go na gope kwa go tlhomameng kwa ba jaana ga ba na bodiredi at the gates. Bodiredi jo bo at ka bonang dikokwana tse teng. O a itse gore the rights the gates, ke jo e leng gore fa letsatsi le phirima, ga go motho yo o nang le tsone mo Botswana o mongwefela, theogelwe. Mpolelela gore fa diterata di sule ka seemo ke Rre Dada. Ke ene a nang le the rights tsa go rekisa se di suleng ka sone, diphologolo, dikgomo le dikoloi dikokwana. Ga a eletse le fa e le ka tsela epe go rekisa tsa rona di tlola go rata le go kgona, o tlaabo o re fa go the rights tse. Banana le batho ba ba eletsang go itirela ntshiwa permits tsa dikgomo, di ntshetswa eng? Motho dikgwebo tsa dikokwana gore ba iphitlhele ba tsene mo fa a tla ka dikgomo a lemoga gore gate e fa pele, o ka dikgwebong tse, go bokete. O a itse gore maloba go ne pota kafa, a tloge a pote kafa, a boe a pote kafa. Go supa go le tshokolo e e kae go bona dikokwana. gore re itebetse ka diterata tsa matlhoko a leruo. Fa re ka tlhagogelwa ke seemo sa bolwetse rraetsho, re ya go MR MOTSAMAI: On a point of procedure. Mr turelwa go gaisa jaaka fa gompieno re ne re ka bo re Chairperson, procedure e ke tsholeditseng ka yone ke baakanya diterata tse. ya gore, fa di tloga, go santse go simololwa, ke ne ke le number three in the list ya go tsholetsa, go fitlhelela o Mma ke sianele kwa go e ya mashi; lefatshe leno le tlhaelelwa ke mashi, ke boammaaruri. Mma ke leke go bona ke kgaratlha, ke bo ke kgaratlha jaana. Re tsamaya fa sekai ka Milk Collection Centre e e kwa Serowe. Milk kwa sebuing gongwe sa bo six. Ke ne ke kopa tsamaiso Collection Centre e, e agilwe e kete go a latlhelelwa. ya Ntlo gore ke dire jang mongwame? Ke patelesega go Boleng jwa yone bo kwa tlase mo e leng gore gone bua ka agriculture. jaana, e swetse ruri. The machines tse di mo go yone, MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee mongwame, o tlaa bua. O those that package, di palelwa ke to package. Ga di ise di fotse line. bereke fa e sale di simologa. Seemo se, re se leba jaaka e kete barui ba palelwa ke go tlisa mashi. Gompieno jaana MR MOTSAMAI: Tanki. ga go na kwa ba a isang teng. Re solofela gore madi a, re go a rebolela gore go ye go baakanngwa plant e, MR CHAIRPERSON: Nna from diatla tse ke di mme lebang dilo tse. Le lebe boleng jwa the machines bonang, go setse Honourable Mmolotsi, go bo gore le ka fa e dirilweng ka teng gore a e mo seemong sa go wena on the opposition. Formula ya rona ke 2-1, 2-1. amogela mashi. A go dirwe dilo tse di tlaa nnang lebaka Re tsamaya ka yone, e bile ga ke ise ke e fose le fa e le gore di tswele Batswana mosola. Fa re bua ka Milk gope. Re tsamaya ka line Honourable Motsamai.

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MR LESEDI: Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke supe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Motsamai, ba go gore kgang e ya diphoko Tona, e ya lenaneo la ga berekile jang maBotswana Congress Party (BCP). Motlotlei Rraetsho Tautona, a ko o e ele tlhoko. E rile maloba fa diphoko tse di abiwa kwa kgaolong ya me, HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… ke ne ke na le wena. Re abela mongwe phoko a le kwa HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR motseng wa Goo-Mogorosi. Tona, a ko o patagane le TSOGWANE): Tlogelang Motsamai, le se ka la mo Tona wa land board, o bone gore barui ba ba itekang tsosetsa high blood. Mma ke tseye sebaka se Motlotlegi ba, ba thusiwa jang go bona naga kwa ntle. A ba land Modulasetilo, gore ke bo ke bone sebaka gompieno sa board ba ba beye gore leruo la bone le ate. Leruo fa le gore ke latlhele tlhware legonyana. Batho ba tlaa re le mo motseng, ga go na sepe se re se solofelang se se itshwarela kwa dikgaolong, re bantsi batho betsho. Ga kalo. Gone fa re neng re aba phoko teng Tona, golo foo re ka ke ra bua mo chapter nngwe le nngwe, e bile ga re rraetsho go selelo le khuranyo ya meno. O utlwile jaaka ka ke ra bua rotlhe. Jaanong ba se ka ba tloga ba tlhoa re ne re inanatha re eletsa gore re thuse. O a itse gore Mapalamente mangwe ba re ga ba bue. motho yole wa Modimo o ne a swelwa ke dipodi tse di bokete jo bo kana ka eng. Jaanong dilo tseo, ke tse di ka Ke tseye sebaka se Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa bong di lebilwe. Batho bale le fa le ya go ba fa jaana, Palamente, ke leboge Tona Gare wa Lephata la go ne go se na thuto epe. Motho wa Modimo o feletse a Temothuo. Ke lephata le le botlhokwa thata, le tlhatlhela dipodi, fa a setse a re o ya to feed, e bo e nna tshwaraganye le maphata a mangwe go itebaganya le bothata rraetsho, ke ne ke na le wena. moono-mogolo wa National Development Plan (NDP) 11, e re berekelang mo go yone. E rotlhe re itseng gore Rraetsho, go na le kgang ya service centre ya Serowe ke sone seporo se terena e tsamayang mo go sone. Re South e e saleng e tsene in the plan ya ba ya tswa ka lebile tshekatsheko e e leng teng le maikaelelo a NDP mabaka a gore ga go na madi. Kgang ya gore ga go na 11, jaaka a supafala mo Mid-Term Review e ka dinako madi, Tona o a itse gore ga go na gope fa ke tsenang tsotlhe re tshwanetse ra bo re ntse re e okomela, re bona teng. Ga ke e dumele ka gore dipe tse re tlholang re di gore re tsamaya fa kae. Go supafala fela sentle gore bua gone fa tsa madi, le a di panyeletsa le supa jaaka Tona Gare o tsamaya sentle. O tsamaya mo seporong sa e kete le tlaa di dira. Jaanong service centre e, ke ya Lenaneo le la Ditogamaano. Selo sa ntlha ke lebogele balemi. A go tsamaiwe go iwe China go ye go adimiwa gore a bo a sekasekile ka botlalo tse a di dirileng, tse madi. Service centre e, e ye go dirwa. E ne e le planned a di kgonneng. The performance ya tse e leng gore mo jaana, go lebilwe botlhokwa le bomosola jwa yone mo kabong ya madi e e fetileng, o ne a tshwanetse gore a tšhabeng e emo tikologong ele. E tswa fela fa Dibete e di dire. O supile sentle mo pages tsa bobedi le boraro, a ya go ema kwa Tonota. Rraetsho, service centre eo, re a supa performance kana kgatelopele mo tirisong ya madi e tlhoka. A go bonwe gore go ka bonwa madi ka tsela e a a neng a a neetswe. Go botlhokwa gore go nne jalo, e ntseng jang. Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. re tle re itse gore re tsamaya fa kae fa re mo gololela MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, let madi. Fa o lebile performance kana targets tsa teng, o me clear the mist mongwe ke o; I have a list here ya tsamaya ka bo 80, 67, ka go farologana fela ga lephata Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) e e leng gore la gagwe le ditirelo tsa lephata la gagwe, e le mo go re Honourable Motsamai ga a yo mo go yone. The next supegetsang gore nnyaa mme o dirisitse madi a a neng a person after Dr Gobotswang from the UDC’s side ke a neetswe ka botlalo. Honourable Tshabang. Selo se se tona mo NDP 11 ka fa e ntseng ka teng, ke go HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… itebaganya le poverty eradication, jaaka ba kwadile mo paragraph 330, e ke kopang gore ke e bale ka tetla ya gago MR CHAIRPERSON: Wait! Wait! Then ke na le list Modulasetilo. Paragraph 330 ya National Development ya Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) e e leng gore Plan, Mid-Term Review ya re, “the priorities for the last the next speaker yo ke tlileng go mmitsa gone jaanong half of the plan period include; poverty eradication, ke Honourable Leader of the House, His Honour the health, education and food security. NDP 11 strategies Vice President, who will be followed by Honourable that were adopted to improve outcomes are as follows; Motaosane. Then we have got another list ya yo o diversification of rural economies, development and seyong mo UDC, fa go tswa Honourable Motaosane go support of small businesses, provision of social safety tlaabo go tsena Honourable Mmolotsi in that order. nets, eradication of absolute poverty, provision of

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quality and equitable education, promotion of access to kwa mebereko e leng teng. Go hira babereki ba disa basic services, shelter, sanitation, education, health and ba le babedi, ba le bararo, ga go tlhame mebereko e e harmonisation of social protection programmes. These kalokalo, mme the agricultural value chain, ke gone kwa will be continued in the remaining half of the National ditiro di leng teng. Go bona gore ka re na le dikgomo, Development Plan.” jaaka re bua ka dikgomo tsa mashi tse di tlaabong di tla, batlotlegi ba ntse ba bua ka di dairy jaana, re tlaabo re Seo se re bontsha tota gore re tshwanetse re tsamaye ntsha dijo tsa dikgomo tseo, go nna le balemi ba tsone, mo seporong sefe. Fa o tla o lebagana le Lephata le la le ba ba dirang tshilo kana kwa madirelong a go dira dijo Agriculture, le fa ke sa bona sebaka sa go bua mo Local tseo. Re ntse re bua ka dikokwana, fa re bua ka go dira Government, ke yone nako ya gore re lomagane le go dijo tsa dikokwana tse, re bo re bua le ka balemi ba ba ka lwantsha lehuma. Ba Local Government ga ba ka ke ba le kgonang go lema dijo tsa go nna jalo, le ba ba tlaabong lwantsha ba sena Lephata le la Agriculture. Fa re bua ka ba bereka mo madirelong a go dira dijo tseo. Fa re bua Livestock Management and Infrastructure Development ka dikgomo tsa nama, re bua ka value chain ya go dira (LIMID), re bua ka lenaneo le le itebagantseng le go tsone dijo tseo le go di sila. Ke dilo tsotlhe tse re ka thusa ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane gore ba tswe mo tlhamang mebereko e e seng kana ka sepe. Ke batla gore lehumeng. Ke dingwe tsa dilo tse di botlhokwa tsa gore Tona Gare, o itebaganye thata le dikgang tse. re lomaganye dikgang tsone tse. E nngwe kgang e ke e ratileng thata mo pegong ya gago, Jaanong ka bofefo ka gore nako ke yone e e seyong, ke ya research; e e tsamaelang thatathata mo goreng, ke itebaganya le tse dingwe tse ke batlang go bua ka kana NDP 11 le yone, e itebagantse le ditogamaano, tsone. Ke buile ka performance jaaka ke boletse. Ke Information and Communications Technology (ICT) le lebogele Tona Gare gore a bo a tsweletse. Bakaulengwe go dira research. Botswana University of Agriculture ba buile ka diterata tsa leruo, di botlhokwa, jaaka Rre Lesedi a ne a bua ka teng. Ke dingwe tse e leng and Natural Resources (BUAN), leka gore o e thuse ka gore kana re tshwanetse gore re bo re remeletse mo madi a a lekanetseng gore ba kgone go dira research go tsone go laola matlhoko a leruo. Kwa kgaolong ya ya bone sentle ba atologile. Ba tswe fa ba leng teng, ba rona ya Boteti, re ralalwa ke diterata di le dintsi, tse di kgone go anama, ba tshwane le bo Okavango Research kgaogantseng kgaolo ya Boteti; go na le bo 4B, Kaka, Institute ya kwa University of Botswana. Ba aname le Area A, jalojalo. Diterata tse tsotlhe di botlhokwa gore lefatshe le le bone, ba kgone go dira research ya bone di bo di tlhokomelwa. ba thapologile. Ke tsaya gore Tona, ke sengwe sa dilo tse o di beileng kwa pele, jaaka o ntse o bua ka research Gape kgaolo ya rona e bapile thata le diphologolo, mo pegong ya gago. O tla fitlhelela dikgang tsa go nna kwa bo Central Kalahari Game Reserve (CKGR) le jalo, ga ke na le fa e le pelaelo. Ke ka rata thata fa e ka Makgadikgadi National Park. Ke bo ke leboge ba nna nngwe ya universities tse di e eteletseng, jaanong lephata la ga Mma Kereng, ka gongwe ga ke na go bona ke dingwe... nako ya go bua mo go bone, gore ba bo ba dirile kana ba tsweletse ka go dira terata ya Makgadikgadi. Terata MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Leader of the e ya diphologolo ya Makgadikgadi, e diretswe gore e House, Honourable Mathoothe is asking for clarification. tle go thusa barui ba Boteti gore ba se ka ba senyetswa ke diphologolo, selo sa ntlha. Sa bobedi, e a ba thusa MR TSOGWANE: O ko o tseye second fela ngwana gore malwetse a a tshwanang le a bo Foot and Mouth, wa ga mma, ke na le dikgang tse dintsi. dikgomo tsa bone di se ka tsa kopana le diphologolo, MR MATHOOTHE: Clarification.Nnyaa, tota potso e jaanong malwetse a a ntseng jalo, a se ka a tsena leruo ke neng ke batla go e botsa fela ke seemo sa dikokwana. la bone. Ke selo se se botlhokwa thata. Ke re go bo ba Mothusa Tautona a re tlhalosetse fela ka seemo se sa gore dirile jalo, ba re thusitse thatathata, barui ba rona ba tlaa batho ba ba thubang dikokwana, e bo e le ba bangwefela kgona gore leruo la bone le ate. Ke nngwe ya dikgang ba ba nang le the rights, mme go na le banana ba bantsi tse ke neng ke batla go feta ka tsone e bile ke e lebogela. kana Batswana ba ba batlang go tsena mo go thubeng Fa ke gatela pele Modulasetilo, re leba mo gotweng dikokwana. Seemo se, se ka baakanngwa ka tsela e e value chain in agriculture or agricultural value chain; ntseng jang, ka e bile bone batho ba go nna jalo, ga ba kgang e e botlhokwa e bile e batla gore Tona, o e atolose batle go rekisa those rights? A re le lefatshe, re ka se ke fela thata, e bile o e emele ka dinao, ka gore ke gone re akanye gore gongwe re reke those rights? Thank you.

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MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga motlotlegi ka kgang E nngwe e e botlhokwa jaaka ke badile mo kgannyeng ya eo, e botlhokwa. Mme kana kgang eo, Tona o e arabile gago ya Economic Recovery and Transformation Plan gale. Ke tsaya gore those rights fa e le gore di teng, go (ERTP), madi a a neelwang bo National Development na le tse dingwe tse di tla gololelwang ba ba batlang Bank (NDB) a, NDB e sotla balemi. Gore o bone madi go dira, go tlaa dirwa. Jaaka a ne a bua ka hatchery e kwa NDB ke kgang fela e e thata, mo ba kgonang go go a reng e ya go tlhomiwa kwa Letlhakane. Fa e le gore bolelela gore o ikopele (apply) for a loan ka dikgwedi Tona o bua jaana gore go na le hatchery e e yang go dife, go tsweng fa, ba dira tiro ba le on a rush. Dilo tse ntsha dikokwana tse 3000 kwa Letlhakane, ke tsaya e le fa re ka se ke e re re neela batho ba madi, re bo re ba Letlhakane la ga Rre Lelatisitswe, go raya gore gongwe a neela re batla go tswelela gore ba thuse Batswana, re ba na le dikompone tse di ba neetseng. Ga ke tseye tlile go felela re ntsha madi ngwaga le ngwaga o sa itse gore ke kompone e nngwefela e e tswang kwa bo South gore a tserwe ke bomang, ga a tsewa ke bomang mme Africa, e ka neelang batho bao ditshwanelo, go raya re batho ba e leng balemi tota ba palelwa ke go netla. O batle tse dingwe dikompone tse di tlaa neelang batho di fitlhela fela go sita. A typical example; NDB, ngwana franchise. Jaanong ke tsaya gore fa go ntse jalo, go tlaa o ikanne gore o batla go lema mabele. He gave them nna le competition. Ke sone se re se lebileng. a proposal fela e e nonofileng, e a sure ka market, ga gona mo gotweng ke magatwe. They reject gone moo Ka nako e tsamaile motlotlegi, ke kopa fela gore training fela ba re o tlaa tsaya kae market wa mabele. Who said centres di dirwe, jaaka bo... there is no market for mabele mo Botswana? Batho ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Leader of the ba apayang majalwa, ba ditshilo ba le kanakana, ba re House, your time is up! jang bopi letsatsi le letsatsi, go bo gotwe motho has been rejected ka one mabaka a a ntseng jaana. No, a dilo MR MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA-KUMAKWANE): tse Tona re di ele tlhoko. Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mma ke go leboge Tona ka kopo ya gago. Ka batlotlegi ba buile tse dintsinyana, ke E nngwe e ke eletsang gore ke e go kope, ke a itse gore batla go itebaganya le tse ke eletsang fela gore totatota ga e ame ministry wa gago o le nosi, e ya go ama le ba le le Lephata la Temothuo, re tlogele mo gotweng ke Investment, gongwe le ba Puso e tona e bong ba ministry business as usual, e re re bua dilo tse re bo re ya go o wa ga Rre Morwaeng. Bagaetsho, a ko re le Puso re diragatsa Tona. Ke santse ke ipoeletsa, kana gore re tle ka lenaneo fela le le tsepameng la gore graduates, go kgone go tswelela Minister through you Chairperson, ke gore batho ba ba nang le boitseanape ba ntshiwe nne le mo gotweng ke Graduates Fund, e e leng gore mo diofising tse di mo Gaborone. E ke a e kopa, ga ke ngwana fa a fetsa kwa sekoleng a batla go dira kgwebo, batle e diegelwa ka gore ga gona mosola wa gore batho a se ka gatwe a ye kwa CEDA le NDB. A tsene fela, ba tlhole ba tletse mo diofising tse di mo Gaborone le lenaneo le e bo e le gore le foo le tsamaisiwa ke ba didirisiwa. You must get it clear on this one. All the ba tlaabong ba le tsamaisa, ba neela bana ba madi go resources are packed mo head office. Fa o ya kwa head simolola ditiro ka gore ga re na ditiro re le Goromente. office ele ya Agriculture, it is fully parked. Parking ya Fa ngwana a tswa kwa BUAN a batla to venture mo teng ga gona where you park mme dikoloi tse motho agriculture, a batla go dira projects tsa mofuta oo, a re go na le ya gagwe, go bo go nna le tse o fitlhelang di le mo neele funding, o tlaa duela Puso. Ga gona jaaka re reserved; e le Director- official vehicle, ka fa Director- ka tlhola re kgona go hira batho ba botlhe. Ke kopa gore ke ya gagwe. that fund, ga ke itse gore a ke ministry wa gago that can Ke kopa gore a ko seemo se, re ise bathong ba ba establish it. Ga ke reye graduates tsa BUAN fela, every tlhokafalang kwa dikgaolong, ba ye go thusa gore graduate ba ba tlaabong ba batla go dira dikgwebo, go extension officers ba nne le resources tse di tshwanang nne le fund e e leng gore they can access loans tse di foo le bo dikoloi. Ke tsaya gore koloi fa e le gore ke e e go ka simolodisa dikgwebo tsa bone. Dilo tse fa re ka se dirisiwang ke Director, if there is need ya gore molemisi ke re di ele tlhoko, di tlaa re paledisa go tsamaisa Puso e. a tabogele golo gongwe mo kgaolong, o a tshwanelwa ke gore a e tseye, ke koloi ya Puso. Fa gotwe ke ya E nngwe e ke eletsang gore le le ba temothuo le tsene ga Director, ga go tewe gotwe e tsamaya ka ene fela mo go yone ke gore kopanang le Lephata la Investment, a le nosi. A ko dilo tse re di ele tlhoko, re dire mo go Trade and Industry kwa CEDA. Mabaka a mangwe a to tshwanetseng ka gore otherwise temothuo ya rona e tlile reject batho Tona ga se one. Ke gore a typical example; go wela kwa tlase go ya go ileng. Jaanong ke ne ke kopa golo mo ga go nna gotwe o ye go tlisa examples tsa gore a golo moo go diragadiwe. bojang, tests tsa bojang, mebu, tsa eng, lona ba Ministry

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wa Agriculture, gongwe le gongwe le bo le tlhatlhobile MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motaosane, mebu, le itse gore kwa mebung ya boketekete, ke e e Honourable Makwinja o batla elucidation. siametseng temothuo kana e ke e siametseng go lema, e e ka kwa go ka ruiwa teng. Ga gona bojang jo bo sa MR MOTAOSANE: Nako e tsamaile, go setse a jeweng ke kgomo, kwa ntle fa e le gore ke jo bo nang le minute fela Honourable Makwinja, ga ke go gane. botlhole fela jaaka mogau. Fa go ntse gotwe o tlise tests Ke re ke fete ka e nngwe ke e ke batlang go bua ka tsa dilo tse, tota go tewa gotwe o reng. Re le Batswana yone ka dikgomo. Mr Chairperson, go na le seemo re ruile, re tswa kgakala re na le dikgomo, re itse gore se re kileng ra bo re na le balemisi, re itse gore ba a go diragala eng, go bo gotwe you are rejected, ga o a re kentela. Le fa e ka nna privatised e ntshiwa mo go tlisa that thing. bone, kana jaanong le melemo e e neng Goromente a tla ka yone, e e tshwanang ya bo kwatsi jaana, ga go sa Ke kopa gore batho ba ba batlang loans tsa temothuo, tlhole go diragala. Mathata ke eng? A ko golo fa go ye lona ba Ministry of Agriculture, a golo kwa CEDA le go lejwalejwa, re bone gore a batho ba ntse ba neelwa nne le motho yo o le emelang teng, yo o tlaabong a itse melemo e ka fa e neng e neelwa ka teng. Ka e bile yone gore fa e le gore le bua ka dikgomo, o ka e lebaleba a itse ga e letlelelwe gore mongwe le mongwe o ka ikentela, gore go diragala eng. Fa a bua ka temo jaaka gompieno o tshwanetse o bo o itse gore melemo e e dirisiwa ka o fitlhela batho… sekai; molemi yo mongwe kwa sebopego se se ntseng jang. Ke nngwe ya tse ke neng ke Phuduhudu o ganelwa ka madi a terekere, o lema go feta re ke se ka ka tlhoka go feta ka tsone. 200 hectares. O adimile le masimo ka gore masimo a re Ga ke lebale ya certificate le Keeper Identity (Id). A ntseng re re a hirisiwe, o a hirisitse but CEDA e nnetse golo foo go bonagale gore le a baakanya, re lese go nna to reject him. Motho yo ke molemi wa tlhwatlhwa, o na gotwe Keeper Id, dingwaga tse pedi dingwe le dingwe le record fela e go sa paleng go tlhotlhomisa go bona e ya shafadiwa (renewed). A re nne le one document gore a o na le bokgoni jwa go duela. He is rejected. Dilo tse ga di na go re thusa .Goromente o ka tlhola a ntsha e e amanang le dilo tse ka gore fa re di kopanya di a madi a isa kwa, o ya go fitlhela madi a a neelwa batho etsaetsisa le kwa mapodiseng. Kamoso ba bangwe ba go ba e leng gore ga ba na mosola le one, ba a tsaya ba ya raya ba re no, ga re dirise mo, ke dirisa mo. Fa o sa tle ka go a dirisa dilo tse e seng tsone, tse ba batlang go di certificate o na le Keeper Id, o ka nna wa se ka wa kgona dira. Batho ba ba a tlhokang tota ba na le tiriso ka one, go kwadisa dikgomo. ga ba a neelwe. Jaanong a ko le ikopanye le lephata la Ya bofelo ke go kopa barua-dikgomo kana bo ga Madam Serame, le bone gore batho ba neelwa loans ramatlhabelo (butcheries) ba lese go ja Batswana tse di tshwanetseng ke CEDA le nneu. ntsoma. A ko fela ba reke dikgomo tsa Batswana ka fa go Go tshwana le yone CEDA gape, ke gore bosupi jwa tshwanetseng, ba lese go reka carcass, a ba reke kgomo gore re re Motswana mongwe le mongwe o ka nna le le mala le tlhogo, ba neele beng ba dilo tse tsotlhe. 150 hectares, golo moo go tshwanetse gotwe Motswana Fa e le gore ga ba di reke, ba di duele beng ba tsone, ba mongwe le mongwe yo o lemang selekanyo sa bo 20 tseye carcass e ba e pegang ba e go duelele, ka gore le hectares, o ka kgona go tsaya loan e e mo lekaneng, a wena o a bo o nnile le ditshenyegelo tse di seng kanaka kgona go e duela ka temothuo. Jaanong o tlaa fitlhela sepe mo seemong sa go tlisa kgomo kwa matlhabelong. gotwe o batliwa lefatshe la 150 hectares; le kwa kae? It Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. is not there. Ga gona 150 hectares kwa o ka mmonang teng, go nthaya gore o tsamae o adima masimo. That MR MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN SOUTH): Ke means o bo o ya go adima masimo kwa Phuduhudu, a leboga Chairperson. Ke supe fela kwa tshimologong Ramatlabama, a mangwe kwa boketekete to reach gore kana tota lephata le re buang ka ga lone le, ke that gore o tle o kgone go fiwa loan. It stretches your lone le le tshwereng keys tsa ditiro le tsa tiro ya dijo capacity fa o tsweletse o lema, o dira dilo tsotlhe tse di mo lefatsheng le la Botswana. E se fela foo, gape amanang le temo. Re tlhoka gore motho yo o nang le 20 mme lephata le ke lone le le tshwereng key ya gore le hectares, le ene a kgone go reka terereke fela e e jang bo vaccines tota mo lefatsheng le la Botswana di ka nna P300 000, a kgone go lema, a ntshe dijo, a tle a kgone teng, di ka dirwa. Go ka dirwa dipatlisiso tse di rileng go duela CEDA. Dilo tse fa re ka di bua ka molomo e bo mo ditlhatshaneng tse re nang natso mo lefatsheng le, re e ka re re konkometsa batho, ga re ka ke ra fitlhelela… kgone gore le rona re nne le vaccines. O tlaa gakologelwa

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gore gompieno jaana re le lefatshe la Botswana vaccine machine, gore ba go lebegang ba tlhoafaletse temo ba ya Food and Mouth Disease (FMD) e diriwa mono. Ka thusiwe ka go epelwa didiba kwa masimong a bone, tsela e e ntseng jalo ke sone se ke reng lephata le le ka gore e bile mo nakong ya gompieno ka integrated botlhokwa thata. farming motho o ka ntsha dijo mo tshimong a lemile, a boa a nosa leruo la gagwe. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo a Ke batla go tsena mo go reng, kana lefatshe la rona le na direla lefatshe dijo fela tse di lekaneng. le mathata tota a mantsi, mme bontsi jwa one e le gore ga re kgone go itirela dijo tse di lekaneng. Fa re sa kgone Fa e le gore ga re ka ke ra tswelela ka go dira jalo, re go itirela dijo tse di lekaneng jaana, nako e nngwe re ya go tswelela ka go baya fela mo puleng e e tlang ka ya go iphitlhele re le mo mathateng. Ke ne ke solofetse nako ya yone, nako e nngwe ga e tle. Nako e nngwe gore budget kana presentation ya ga Tona tota e ka bo e tla ka bokete jo bo gakgamatsang, jaaka gompieno e e tlile ka dikgang tse disha tsa gore tota jaanong re ya tlile ka bokete jo bo gakgamatsang, e sentse dijalo, e go dira jang to turn around agriculture mo Botswana. kopakopantse. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo ga re a tshwanelwa Re kgone go nna mo seemong se re ka iphitlhelang re ke gore re beye botshelo jwa temothuo mo lefatsheng le gorogile mo go ka Sekgoa go bidiwang food security mo puleng ya Modimo. Re tshwanetse gore re bo beye and food self-sufficiency. Ke raya gore go a tlhokagala mo metsing a re a epang. Ke sone se ke kopang gore a gore re iruele dijo as in farming, go a tlhokagala gore re re lekeng go thusa Batswana gore ba ikepele didiba mo fokotse bokete jwa dijo tse di tsenang mo lefatsheng la masimong a bone. Botswana di tswa kwa ntle, ka gore re setse re lemogile gore fa lefatshe le na le mathata, jaaka re ne re na le Gape gore re tle re kgone go tswelela sentle, Goromente mathata maloba a COVID-19 go le mo lockdowns, re o tshwanelwa ke go itse gore, mo malatsing a gompieno ne ra iphitlhela re le lefatshe re le mo seemong se e leng didirisiwa tsa temo di a tura, fa di tura, gore agriculture gore ga gona se re se ineelang se se kalokalo. Ke sone e kgone go felela, go a re Goromente should subsidise se tota ke neng ke solofetse gore re ya go bona Tona kana a thuse balemi go reka equipment; tractors, jaanong ...(Inaudible)… a ipaakanyetsa thulaganyo ya megoma le tse dingwe tse di dirang gore agriculture gore re le lefatshe re ya go dira jang gore re nne le dijo e nne motlhofo. …(Inaudible)…lefatshe la Brazil Mr tse di lekaneng, di lekane mongwe le mongwe. Fa e le Chairperson, go na le thulaganyo e e bidiwang gotwe sengwe e bile re iphitlhele re le lefatshe le le ka kgonang family agriculture, e e leng gore ka yone kwa Brazil to export dijo ka go farologana. balemi ba neelwa kana ba thusiwa go reka machines tse di dirang temo motlhofo, mme e bo ba duela Mr Chairperson, jaaka kile ka tlhalosa ...(Inaudible)… sekolotonyana se e seng sa sepe each time fa ba rekisa ngwaga ono, ke bua gore ga re ka ke ra kgona go dira dijalo tsa bone. So thulaganyo e re tshwanelwa ke gore dijo tse di lekaneng fa re sa dire mealo e e siameng, le re e akanyetse, go bona gore ka thusa balemi ba rona ka mananeo a a siameng a gore tlhabololo ya temothuo e ditsompelo tse di ntseng jalo, gore ba kgone go tswelela ka diriwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ke setse ke kile ka pele. Mme gore e kgonagale sentle re tshwanelwa ke go ntsha suggestions kana dikgakololo tsa gore, lefatshe la tsosa gape mo go bidiwang cooperatives. Cooperatives Botswana kana Goromente wa Botswana o tshwanelwa tse tsone di tlaabong di tsena mo thulaganyong ya gore ke go tsaya tshwetso gangwe fela. Re a itse gore ga go jaanong go senkiwa mmakete kae… kwa e leng gore na dijalo le diruiwa dipe tse di sa tlhokeng metsi, mme Batswana will be producing dijo, e le gore mongwe le mongwe produces bonnyennyane-bonnyennyane mme key ya gore lefatshe le nne le dijo tse di lekaneng, ke mmaraka o tlhoka bontsi. Dikoporase tse ke tsone tse gore go nne le metsi. Ke sone se re kopileng Goromente di tlaa pataganyang bonnyennyane-bonnyennyane jo gangwe le gape, le gompieno ke gakolola Tona gore re bo tswang mo masimong a farmers ka go farologana, tshwanelwa ke gore re lebe balemi ba ba tlhoafetseng mo go dira bontsi jo bo tlhokiwang ke mmakete, e bo e le lefatsheng le, mme re ba thuse ka go ba epela didiba. O gore they are supplied. Dilo tse di ne di ka kgonagala fa tlaa gakologelwa gore Goromente e ne ya re mo nakong re batla to turn around thulaganyo e ya agriculture mo e e fetileng a reka tractors tse di neng di dirisiwa kana lefatsheng la Botswana. tse di santseng di dirisiwa go lema masimo, go lemela Batswana masimo ka thulaganyo ya Integrated Support Ke a bona gore in the pastoral sector Goromente o bua Programme for Arable Agriculture Development thata ka gore ba batla go tlhabolola small stock. Small (ISPAAD). Mo nakong ya gompieno Goromente o stock mo lefatsheng la Botswana se ka dira sentle. E bile tlhoka gore fa e le sengwe a reke machines kana burrow Batswana o a bona gore ba na le determination ya gore

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dipodi le dinku ba di ruiwe ka dipalo tse di rileng. Selo Ke dumela gore fa re ka tswelela ka tsela e e ntseng jaana se se ntshwenyang fela ke gore, Batswana ba ruwa dilo maduo ga a ka ke a tshwana fa re ne re na le guidance tse, ba tlaa ruwa dilo tse, mme ba ya go tlhoka mmakete fela e e nonofileng ya extension services, Batswana ba o ba ka di rekisang teng. Ba a go tlhoka mmakete ka itse gore gatwe go iwa kae. gore, kgang e e tlholang e buiwa ke Tautona ya gore ba bone mmaraka, ke ya molomo fela. O foo ke fano, re ya Mme gape re tlhoka gore, jaaka re buile ka bo BMC go digela ngwaga wa botlhano kgang e ya gore re bone value chain kana .. mmaraka wa maArabea e ntse e buiwa fela. Ka tsela e e MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Mmolotsi there is ntseng jalo, ke ne ke re gongwe re senke tsela e nngwe a point of elucidation from Honourable Manake. ya gore Batswana ba ka thusiwa jang ka gore ke ba ba lebega ba tlhoafaletse small stock, either ka mmakete o MR MMOLOTSI: Ga ke nako Mr Chairperson, e o local or mongwe o o gautshwanyane, o ba ka kgonang ntšhaetse. Mma ke bue ka value chain ya nama. Re gore ba o dire, ka gore o wa maArabea, o ne o utlwa tshwanelwa ke go simolola ka dilo tse re di re itseng. Tona maloba a bua dikgang kafa a neng a di bua ka teng, Nama ke selo se re se itseng. Ga re a tshwanela gore Tautona le ene a bua dikgang kafa a di buang ka teng. gompieno re bo re nnetse to export nama fela mme re Tota fela dikarabo tse Batswana ba ne ba solofetse gore itse gore go na le dilo tse dingwe tse re ka di dirang gongwe mmakete o gatwe go setse go saennwe, go setse ka yone. Mr Chairperson, gape re tswa kgakala re dira go dirilwe dilo, kante nnyaa ke dikgang tsa molomo tse BMC. Mo nakong ya gompieno, re ka bo re setse re di tshwanang fela le dikgang tse re tlholang re kopana na le dikompone tsa megobagoba kana re dirile BMC le tsone. Mr Chairperson small stock production e ka multinational e le kwa mafatsheng ka go farologana, thusa thata mo Batswaneng. re isa nama ya rona le ditswanameng koo, go rekisiwa lefatshe la rona, le nna le maduo. We need multinationals Ke lebogela gore Tona a bo a re they are reviewing tse di tshwanang… ISPAAD. Letshwenyego la me ke gore, mananeo a ga Goromente gore a baakanngwe go tsaya lebaka le MR LEUWE (TAKATOKWANE): Thank you Mr le leele, ke gore ngwaga o tlaa wela, o mongwe wa Chairperson. Good afternoon mongwame. Mma ke simologa, o mongwe a wela, e le gore gatwe they go leboge rraetsho gore o bo o nnetse motsotsonyana are still reviewing mananeo. Golo mo ga go direle o gore le nna ke nne le la mmotlana mo Lephateng la Batswana sentle ka gore gantsinyana e bile fa gotwe Temothuo. Ke simolole fela ka go supa gore ke ema there is a review go emisiwa dilo dingwe. Batswana ba kopo ya ga Tona Gare nokeng. Ke e ema nokeng ka tshwanelwa ke gore malatsing a re ba thuse ka bofefo ditshetlana dingwe tse ke eletsang gore gongwe re di thatathata mo dikgannye tse tsa agriculture, gore ba tle ele tlhoko. Pele ga moo, ke simolole ka go leboga ofisi ba kgone go dira botshelo, ba dire dijo. ya gagwe, ene Rre Gare ka sebele, mothusi wa gagwe le Permanent Secretary wa gagwe ka mabaka a gore dinako Fa o tsaya Lephata la Agriculture Research Mr tse tsotlhe fa go le thata, go le bokete, fa o ba leletsa, ga Chairperson, lephata le le tlhoka gore le neelwe madi. ba lebelele nako. Ba tlaa go thusa fa ba kgonang teng ka Re tlhoka go dira dipatlisiso tse di tseneletseng. Ke a ditsela tsotlhe tse ba di kgonang. Ke eletsa gore boraro itse gore ba agricultural research have researched ka jo Modimo o ba okeletse o ba segofatse ka gore ke batho high yielding varieties tse e leng gore they are suitable ba ba tsibogang thata. O kare maphata a mangwe le one for mafatshe ka go farologana. They have researched a ka bo a tsiboga fela jaaka bao ba tsiboga. ka diphologolo tse di ka dirang sentle, dijalo tse di ka dirang sentle kwa le kwa. Communication fela ya Jaanong se se leng teng ke gore ke leboge gore ke gore, extension services, balemisi jalojalo, ba rute bo ke utlwa fa e bile go tlhalosega sentle ka botlalo Batswana kwa dikgaolong ka go farologana gore high gore go ya go sekasekwa ISPAAD. Ke santse ke yielding varieties ke tse, varieties tse di tsayang nako e dumela gore temothuo e santse e le yone e e ka nnang khutshwanyane to mature ke tse, nako e re ka lema se se mokwatla wa itsholelo ya lefatshe la Botswana ka gore ka tlang sa re busetsa ka bofefo. Re bona gongwe public mo Botswana, gongwe 90 per cent ya Batswana ba education kana extension service eo e sa diragale sentle. beile thata mo temong le thuo. Fa ke re 90 per cent, Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo Batswana ba tsweletse ka gore ke raya mo Botswana mme fa ke ya kwa kgaolong ya fa gongwe ba itemele sengwe le sengwe fela, without me ya Takatokwane, ke 100 per cent; re beile fela mo being guided by anything. temong le thuo. Jaanong se ke se belaelang ke gore re

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tshwanetse re bo re sa direle temo justice. Re tshwanetse tseo gape di isa ditsompelo tsotlhe tse di ka dirang re sa e dire ka fa re tshwanetseng go e dira ka teng gore gore o dire temo ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng ka e tle e kgone go re neela maduo a a tshwanetseng. Fa re nako ya segompieno. Re tlhoka motlakase, ditsela, le ka e dira fela ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng, ke dumela communication. Re di tlhoka thata fela jaaka tse dingwe e bile ke solofela gore e ka hira batho, e ka re tlisetsa o sa tswang go di umaka. Re eletsa go ipona fela e re o dijo le gore re ka tswala borders. Ra di tswala fela ga le kwa Tsetseng, Kaudwane, Senyetse o bo o ka kgona bo ga tswalega. Fa e le go di bula, re di bula re ntshetsa to communicate fela jaaka o batla. Motlakase ga e kwa ntle, e seng re tsenya mo teng fela jaaka mafatshe sa tlhole e le luxury jaaka re ne re akanya pele. Mo a mangwe a dira. Kopo ya me ke gore fa go ya go bogompienong it is a necessity. Re o tlhoka tota re o sekasekwa ISPAAD, go elwe tlhoko thata dilo tse dintsi, tlhokela dilo tse dintsi. Re tlhoka melemo e ya gore re bogolo jang re ye kwa dikgaolong, kwa Batswaneng ba kente dikgomo, re e beye gone koo. Jaanong fa e le gore ba rweleng setlhako sa agriculture, ba ba babalelwang re tlaa se ke re tsene mo dikgannyeng tsa go isa ditlamelo ke setlhako se sa agriculture. E nne bone ba ba yang go tseo, re tlaabo re santse re palelwa ke temothuo. re tlhatlhelelang gore go re temothuo e tsamae sentle, re kopa gore le ye go e tsamaisa jaana le jaana ka gore ke Re ne ra nna le dikgang tsa service centres tse di neng di bone ba ba leng hands-on. Ba tshwere ka matsogo tota na le mogopolo o o nonofileng, o o siameng o ke neng e bile ba bona gore golo mo gore go tswelele ke fa re ka ke dumela gore go ka ya go thusa mo temothuong. Mo dira jang. Ke eletsa go bona e re fa dira review e, re bo bogompienong, they are just white elephants; ga di dire re na le nako e e siameng thata e e lekaneng mme e bile le fa e le sepe. Ke leina fela, o utlwa gotwe service centre re bo re se ka ra e tsaya Sekgoa re ganelela mo toropong. e kwa boketekete mme le fa o ka ya teng le fa e le yone Re katoge thata re ye kwa metseng-selegae. plant; ga gona sepe se o ka se fitlhelang foo. Diterekere tsone ga ke bue ka gore at least ke dumela gore tsone Ke eletsa go bona go nna le thulaganyo ya go boela di dintsi. Ga o ka ke wa fitlhela didirisiwa tsotlhe tsa kwa marakanelong a ditsela mo agriculture; tota temo koo, mme go ntse gotwe ke service centre. Ga di mma ke re mo temothuong yotlhe. Fa re ka boela kwa sa tlhole di dira (serve) purpose. Fa re ka di tsosolosa marakanelong a ditsela, re ya go bona fa re fositseng fela ra boela kwa re neng re eletsa go di dirisetsa teng, step teng ka tsa temothuo. Mo bogologolong, re ne go ka re berekela. re itse gore temothuo e tshwere lefatshe, mme mo bogompienong e fetogile go fetoga. Ka re a re boeleng Kopo ya me e nngwe ke gore a re nne le banka fela kwa morago re ye go bona gore re fositse fa kae. (1) e e itebaganyang le batho ba temothuo, e ba thusa e Re fositse fela ka gore re bo re fokotsa balemisi. Ga go lebagane le bone fela ka gore NDB ga e thuse balemi- sa tlhole go na le balemisi gotlhelele mo dikgaolong. barui gotlhelele. E batla dilo tse dintsintsi and temo is (2) Re fositse ka gore ga go sa tlhole go na le bakenti. seasonal. Fa e le gore o tlaabo o ya kwa NDB o bo o ya Bakenti ba ba leng teng e bile o fitlhela e le batho ba go tsaya dikgwedi, pula kwa e a tsamaya. Re tshwanetsa Modimo fela, o mo itseela ka sekgoropa sa gago fela ra nna le banka fela e e lebaganeng le balemi-barui e ba ka lerato la gagwe, go sa tlhole go na le passion ele e re neng re e itse gore Puso e ne e eletsa gore e bone go ntse itseng gore fa e le ba dikgomo go tlhokafala one, two, jang. Kopo ya me ke gore a re boeleng fela koo, re bone three mme e bile gongwe e eteletswe pele ke batho ba gore balemisi le bakenti ba nna teng, e seng ba nna mo ba itseng ka temothuo, e seng go tsewa Leuwe fela yo diofising; ba ye go tsena mo masimong. Ba temothuo o itlelang mo ofising yo o tshwanang le bo Honourable ba tsena mo merakeng. Gompieno fela fa o re o bua le Greeff a sa itse sepe ka temothuo, go bo gotwe o ka mokenti, o tlaabo o utlwa gotwe ga gona claim mme re etelela dilo tse temothuo. Golo moo go ka re solegela a itse gore temothuo ga e na weekend; ga e na Saturday molemo thata fa re ka nna le banka e e lebaganeng le kana Sunday, e betsa bosigo le motshegare, 24/7. Fa e balemi barui. Go ka isa temothuo golo gongwe. le gore le tlaa dirisa bakenti jaaka e kete le dirisa officer Ke na le bothata le dipeo tse re di lemang gompieno tse yo o mo ofising ya ga Mapalamente yo o berekangfrom re sa itseng kwa di dirwang teng. 0700 - 1630, Monday to Friday, temothuo e ka re palela. Ke eletsa gore re boele kwa marakanelong a a ditsela. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Leuwe, there is a request for elucidation by Honourable Manake. Tona, le fa ke go ema nokeng, ke eletsa gore o lebelele dilo tse dintsi thata tse re di tlhokang kwa temong. Re MR LEUWE: Okay. Nako e tsamaya fa kae Honourable tlhoka ditsela tse di yang kwa masimong go tsaya dijo Minister?

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MR CHAIRPERSON: You are left with two minutes go fitlhela ba dirile exactly se se tlhokafalang, gona le 30 seconds. gore re bo re reka dipeo tse di turang thata go tswa kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, tse e bile di sa kgone go jalwa MR LEUWE: Ah! Ke eng a sa ntese fela; half a minute gabedi. Ba ba rona ba, ba ka dira dipeo tse e leng gore le honourable. fa o e baya, fa pula e na gape, o kgona go boa o e lema ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL gape, go supa gore ke peo fela e e nang le boleng as DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS opposed to e gotweng ga se open pollinated. MANAKE): Thank you very much Honourable Leuwe. E ya bo e tšhaile Modulasetilo, ke leboge rraetsho. Ke Kgang eo ya banka, I am sure o badile gore Honourable ema kopo ya ga Tona nokeng ka diatla tsoopedi. Ke a Matsheka o ne a re NDB is turning into an agricultural leboga. development bank mme e bile dilo tse o setseng o di bua tseo, re a di baakanya. Le yone ka the Industry Facility MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, time e e leng gone fa, re ntshitse dilo tsotlhe tse di thatathata is up. I now call upon the Honourable Minister of ka gore re batla gore Batswana ba fitlhelele (access) Agricultural Development and Food Security to reply madi a gore ba tlhabologe. Jaanong fa e le agricultural to the debates. development bank, o tlile go re tshwara ka letsogo. Ke a leboga. MR MOTSAMAI: Point of procedure. Mr Chairperson, o bona gore o tsamaisa jang, mme fa o bona, a o a MR LEUWE: Thank you Honourable Chair, thank lemoga? O lemoga se o se dirang Mr Chairperson, ka you Honourable Manake. Fa o bona ke tlhola ke go gore... boka jaana, ke go bokela le yone e, mme a e se ka ya diega fela jaaka ke ne ke sa tswa go bua gore temothuo HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… is seasonal. E batla motho yo o e tsibogelang a e itse, e MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Healy, se nthuse seng a e itse ka mokwalo; a e diragatsa (practising it) le kgang. Honourable Motsamai, you are out of order. kwa masimong. MR MOTSAMAI: Ga ke out of order, ke kopa gore... Ke ne ke santse ke re ke bua ka kgang ya clusters. Clusters le tsone gore di emelele, go dingalo mo go MR CHAIRPERSON: You are out of order. maswe. Re na le cluster kwa e e sa leng e …(inaudible)…ga gona le fa e le thuso epe e re e MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Chairperson, kana ke ne ke sala bonang ka gone gore officers are thin on the ground. Ga Mmolotsi morago, go bua wena. ba yo gotlhelele at the field mme batho ba malobanyana MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, go ahead. fa morago fale ba ne ba bidiwa Field Officers. Ba ne ba nna at the field, e seng ba nna kwano mo diofising mo MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL go tlaabong go pateletsa balemi-barui gore ba nne ba tla DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MR kwano ba tswa kwa. GARE): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Ke simolole fela ka go leboga Batlotlegi Mapalamente ka dikakgelo le Go botlhokwa, go motlhofo thata fa batho ba re ba bitsang dikgakololo tsa bone. Ke tlaa tsibogela tse dingwe tse ba field officers, ba le gone kwa field. E re le fa go buiwa setseng ba di mpeile pele, e le dipotso kana dikakgelo. ka cluster, go bo go bonala gore go buiwa ka ga eng, go le motlhofo thata. E re fa gotwe mo Khudumelapye re Mr Chairperson, ke simolola ka Honourable batla gore o tswe jaana, cluster ya rona e ye go feta kwa Gobotswang, ke dumalana le ene gore go botlhokwa le kwa, a bo a itse le ene, e seng a bolelelwa. gore re tlhaloganye e bile re lemoge gore mohama o wa temothuo, ke one o ka re batlelang ditiro, ke one o ka Ke eletsa gore o kare Modimo o ka segofatsa lephata le re... thata, ka gore ke lone le ke dumelang gore le ka tsaya lefatshe la Botswana, la le isa golo gongwe ka dijo le MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Gare, there is a ditiro. Gompieno le fa o ka dira statistics, batho ba procedure from Honourable Thiite. bantsi ba hirilwe mo merakeng le kwa masimo. If you go to Phuduhudu, fa o kare batho ba Phuduhudu gongwe MR THIITE: Point of procedure. Thank you Mr ba itebaganye le dipeo tsa rona ba di leme, wa dira sekai Chairperson. Kgang ya me ke tlaa e bua le bakaulengwe fela ka bone, o ya go bona ba hirile batho ba bantsi, o ya at my group le Honourable Kablay. Golo fa ke lemoga

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gore ke ne ke tshwanetse ke bue in this sector, it is very puo fela e re e buang go sena sepe se se tlaa tswang. important kwa dikgaolong tsa rona. Jaanong e rile ke Re dumela gore mo nakong e e sa fediseng pelo, re tshwanetse gore ke tsene… Mr Chairperson, ke re tlaabo jaanong re saena (sign) tumalano e semmuso, e gongwe... bo jaanong Batswana ba ka simolola go akola maduo a thuo ya bone. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Thiite, ga se ya me eo, ke ya Chief Whip ya lona, ke ene a mphileng list. It O buile ka BMC, go boammaaruri gore gongwe BMC is not a matter of procedure this side, maybe you can e mo seemong se se sa itumediseng, se kwa bofelong discuss it with your Whip. se amang barui. Jaaka ke ne ke supa mo pegong ya me ke re, re nnetse kgang e fa fatshe, re dumela gore the MR THIITE: …(Inaudible)… interventions kana strategies tse re batlang go tla ka MR GARE: Thank you very much Mr Chairperson. tsone, di tlaa kgona go re thusa go tsosolosa BMC. Se Ke tsibogele mafoko a ga Rre Gobotswang, ke simolola se tona thata ke gore, re tshwanetse re amogele gore ka kgang e a neng a e bua ya kadimo ya masimo. Ke the beef sector e na le structural problems generally, dumalana le ene gore gongwe go batla go dirwe ka tse di tshwanetseng go baakanngwa. Dingwe tsa dilo mokgwa o o pharologanyo, gore re tlhofofaletse ba ba tse di ka kgonang gore di re thuse ke gore, re nne le batlang go kgaoganya masimo kana ba adimana masimo. golo mo gotweng ke meat regulator which we are Ke kgang e gongwe e batlang re e tshwaraganelela le working on at the moment. Sa bobedi is to liberalise ba ba maleba ba Ministry of Land Management, Water the beef sector, gore e kgone e phadisane, e bo e kgone and Sanitation Services le Local Government and Rural go gweba e phuthologile, e bile e na le a regulator e Development jaaka a ne a supile. e tlaa netefatsang gore the playing field is level. Re dumela gore se re se dirang mo bogompienong, se tlaa Mo kgannyeng ya ISPAAD, ya batho ba ba neng ba rekile re fa maduo a re a solofelang gore BMC re e tsose, e dipeo, ba batla go thusiwa ka boleme. Ke tshwanetse ka nne mo seemong sa gore Batswana ba kgone go boela amogela gore ke kgang e ke lemogang gore is not only mo dikgomong tsa bone tse ba tlaabong ba di rekisa peculiar kwa Kgaolong ya Sefhare-Ramokgonami, e kwa BMC. Mo kgannyeng ya horticulture produce, ke lefatshe ka bophara. Go nthaya gore, go a re tlama re le tshwanetse ka supa gore jaaka a ne a supa... ministry re lebelele, re bone gore matsapa di a tsere kae, fa go na le thuso nngwe e e ka tswang, re rarabolole. Ke MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Hikuama is asking dumela gore ke kgang e re tlaa e lebelelang. for clarification.

Ke batla ke tsibogele e a neng a bua ka yone ya mmaraka MR GARE: Ao! Ke simolola fela Hikuama, mphe five wa dipodi, e a reng kgang e e tshwana le ya bommantšhe minutes ke tlaa go neela. fela, ga a na tsholofelo ya gore go tlaa tswa sengwe. MR HIKUAMA: O tloga o feta point e ke e batlang foo Ke supe gore kana kgang ya mmaraka wa rona kwa mokaulengwe. Saudi Arabia e teng, mme se se botlhokwa ke gore… kana go na le tse di batliwang kwa mmarakeng le tse MR GARE: Two seconds. bone ba tlaabong ba batla go di reka mo go rona, tse di farologanyeng tse di tlhokang gore di nnelwe fa MR HIKUAMA: Clarification. Ee rra. Ke a leboga fatshe di buisanngwe. Kgang e e tsile ka nako e reng Honourable Minister, ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. re setse re simolotse dipuisano, go bo go nna le seemo Tona, ke ne ke re o ise o fete o ye kgakala ka yone ya sa Corona se se neng sa dia dikgang ka bontsi. Re na meat regulator, kana meat regulator le mo budget le le tumelo le tsholofelo ya gore, go ya go nna jaaka re dipuo tse di fetileng, le ne le ntse le bua ka yone gore solofetse. Ke bua jaana batho ba Saudi Arabia ba setse you are working on it. A o ka re tlhomamisetsa gore ba kile ba tla mo Botswana ngwaga o o neng o feta o, meat regulator o solofetse gore e ka wela leng? Gongwe ba tsile go bona gore ba tlaabo ba tlhabela dipodi fa kae. e tlise tsholofelo le confidence mo baruing. Ke a leboga. Ba itumeletse matlhabelo a ba neng ba a bona, e bile MR CHAIRPERSON: There is another clarification ba na le a technical advisor yo e leng Motswana, ke from Honourable Taolo Lucas. ene yo o tabogileng le dikgang tse di ka kwano tsa go netefatsa gore kgang ya mmaraka re a e tswala. Ke batla MR GARE: Nnyaa, mma ke tswelele. Jaanong go tloga gore Batswana ba tshephe e bile ba dumele gore, ga se go bua bone fela, nna ke sa bue sepe.

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke ne ke le mo go ya ga le ntshitse ba le mo incubation kwa Lobu. O ne a buile Rre Hikuama Mr Chairperson, it is okay. gape ka kgang ya gore re tshwanetse go etela kgang ya abattoir e e agiwang kwa Tsabong. Ke supe jalo gape MR CHAIRPERSON: Okay. gore abattoir ele ga e a agiwa ka mabaka a gore re bo re MR GARE: Thank you very much Honourable Member bone market kwa Saudi Arabia fela. It has always been for that clarification. Gongwe ke ka se supe ke beye in the plan ya go agiwa, kgwetlho ya rona e ne e le kgang monwana ke re, ka nako ya gore, but as an indication ya madi fela. It is a multispecies abattoir e re dumelang fela ya gore gongwe re solofela gore re e fetse leng. Re gore ga e a itebaganya le dikgang tsa dihutshane fela. lebeletse mabaka a gore jaaka re ne re bua, re dirile golo E bile ke netefatsa le gore mo go rekiseng ga rona kwa mo gotweng go letlelela Batswana go rekisa dikgomo Saudi Arabia, e tlaabo e le compliant le requirements tsa kwa ntle di tshela. Tumelo ya rona ke gore, fa nako e gone koo. O ne a supa gape gore farmers associations re e filweng e tla go wela, re tshwanetse re bo re setse ba eme ka dinao ba bone gore ba nna le seabe mo go re kgarameditse enough gore baruakgomo ba nne le an yone, le yone ke dumalana le yone. alternative market fa re setse re tla go tswalela kgang Kgang ya live export gore re e oketse go fitlhelela BMC ya live export. There can only be an alternative viable e siama, ke tsaya gore ke kgang e ke ka se keng ke fe market fa e le gore dikgang tsa meat regulators le BMC karabo ya yone gone fa but re tlaa e lebelela gore re bone di mo seemong se se rileng. gore re tsweletse jang mo go lekeng go baakanya seemo Ke tlaabo ke sa bue boammaaruri fa ke ka go raya ke sa matlhabelo a BMC le yone impact ya live export mo re mo kgweding ya gore, mme ke ka go solofetsa fela leruong la rona. Re tshwanetse go amogela gore go gore ga re na gore ngwaga o o tlang, re bua ka budget, rekisa dikgomo di tshela kwa Aferika Borwa yes, go fa ke bo ke santse ke go raya ke re we are working on balemi ba rona letseno le le botoka mme go raya gore the meat regulator. Ke tlaa nna ke ntse ke baya Ntlo e kana we export ditiro ka gore kana fa go ne go tlhabiwa mo dinakong gore re tsamaya fa kae ka kgang ya meat mo ga rona, re ka bo re kgona go direla batho ba rona regulator. ditiro. O bua ka kgang ya fence ya Lobu le research le BUAN gore le yone e iponatse kwa dikgaolong. Ke Ke tswelela Mr Chairperson, mo kgannyeng ya tsaya gore moo ke kgakololo fela e ke dumelang gore horticulture jaaka a ne a botsa gore ba horticulture le rona re tlaabo re ntse re lebeletse go bona gore re dira re dira jang ka bone, ke supe gore kwa Francistown, ka mokgwa o o ntseng jang. O ne a bua gape ka kgang Bobonong, Gaborone le Lobatse, re leka to refurbish ya CEDA gore e tsenngwe leitlho. Ke supe fela gore re the market centres tse re dumelang gore e tlaabo e le bereka ka gale rona le Ministry of Trade… drop points tsa those who produce mo horticulture, MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Gare, there is a go bo go raya gore the retail stores tsone di tlaabo di request for clarification from P.P.P. ya go tsaya kwa market centres. Ke dumela gore golo mo le gone go tlaabo go lekile go thusa ka dikgang tsa MR GARE: Metsotsonyana fela sir. market. O buile gape ka kgang ya agricultural policy, it is already at draft stage e emetse fela gore e lebelelwe MR MOATLHODI: Clarification. Ke a go leboga ke Economic Cabinet Committee (ECC). Fa e sena go Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, good tswa koo, ke gone e tlaabong e tla mo Palamenteng. Ke afternoon sir. Ke go leboga thata Rraetsho Motlotlegi dumela gore fa Modimo o re thusitse mo Palamenteng e Tona go bo o ntetla gore ke go tsene mo ganong, ke e tlang ya mariga, re tlaabo re kgona gore re bo re lebile tlaa nna mokhutshwane thata. Motlotlegi Tona, ke kopa this policy. gore o re tlhalosetse jaaka o araba jaana gore maikaelelo a gago ka BMC Francistown le BMC Lobatse ke eng? Fa ke tswelela Mr Chairperson, kgang ya ga Honourable Good luck. Brooks, o ne a supa fa a lebogela gore re ne re mo etetse kwa Lobu. Ke supe gore mo godimo ga moo, re le MR GARE: Ke a leboga Honourable P.P.P. Ke ne ke Ministry of Agriculture, maikaelelo a rona ke gore re tsaya gore ke kile ka buabua ka BMC, mme fela jaaka setse re tshwaragane le ba Local Enterprise Authority ke ne ke supa kwa tshimologong, maikaelelo a rona (LEA) go dira incubation. Re dumela gore re tlaabo re ke go tsosolosa di BMC tsotlhe ka bobedi. BMC ya incubate ba small stock, fa ba tswa mo teng, re tlaabo Francistown e setse e le gore we have earmarked it re ba kgothatsa ka go ba neela leruo le ba tlaabong ba for slaughter ya dipodi tse tlaabong di ya kwa Saudi

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Arabia. The Saudi Arabians ba setse ba kile ba tla go go nne bofefo gore ranch ecology report e tswe. Yone e bona facility and ba e itumeletse jaaka ke ne ke supa. Ga botlhokwa, fa e le gore gongwe ga e dirwe sentle, o bo o re ba e rekisetse jaaka mongwe a kile a bua, ba tlaabo ba fiwa madi mo polaseng, go bo go raya gore phulo e e foo e lease go tlhaba dipodi gone koo. Ga se moo fela, jaaka ga e a siamela leruo la gago, go raya gore project e ya ke ne ke supa, re setse re ntse fa fatshe re le ministry, to collapse, and o ya go felela o sala mo sekolotong. In re tshwaragane le ba Ministry of Trade le Ministry of my view, golo mo go sireletsa wena yo o adimang madi Finance go bona gore re ka tla ka plan e e ntseng jang ya le wena yo o adimisang madi. Remember gore kana this go bona gore we resuscitate BMC. Jaaka ke ne ke supa, is a revolving fund, e tshwanetse gore madi a tsene, o a golo mo go botlhokwa ke gore tota ka tumelo ya me ke adimiwa, o a buse go kgone go thusiwa ba bangwe le gore bothata ke… go bona gore ba tswelele. Se ke tsayang gore ke ka se buisana ke gore re dira jang gore jaanong gongwe kgang MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, ya ranch ecology report, e nne bofefo kana e se ka ya Honourable Dr Tshabang is asking for clarification. tsaya nako e e telele gore response e neelwe batho ba ba MR GARE: Ke santse ke bua. Ao! o ka nkopa kopileng madi ka bonako. clarification ke santse ke bua, mma ke fetse pele. Kana O ne a bua gape ka kgang ya Keeper Identities le ditshipi, jaanong ke tswa mo timing le go araba P.P.P, ga ke a we are reviewing go leka go dira gore di tsamaisane. Ke kgona go mo araba. tshwanetse ka amogela gore kgang ya go rekisa kgomo HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… le podi mo Botswana e dingalo thata. Ga se gore fa o tla o tshwere kgomo ya gago o le a willing seller and o MR GARE: O tlaa tla o tsena Honourable Tshabang. na le a willing buying, o kgona go rekisa gone foo. Go Ke ne ke re ke dumela gore kgang ya BMC is a rekisa kgomo kana podi ke gone fela mo Botswana mo symptom, it is not the core problem kana the root cause go tlhokanang le mapodise, so go supa gore go batla of the problem in the beef sector. Ke dumela gore the gore re leke go baakanya dilo tse. Go nne motlhofo, re structural problems we identified from the beef sector, lebelele the whole process gore e ka nna motlhofo jang re tshwanetse to sort them out. Once those things are gore Motswana fa a tla a pitlagane, a batla go rekisa sorted out, go tlile go re thusa gore re bo re ka kgona kgomo ya gagwe, a na le motho yo o e rekang, o thusega gore BMC automatically e bo e nna viable. Gompieno jang ka bonako. Go na le gore o bo o tswa kwa Moshupa facilities tse tsotlhe ka bobedi di tlhokana le go tlhaba o ya kwa Kanye, e re o tsena kwa go bo gotwe system dikgomo di le 350 000 ka ngwaga. Re na le dikgomo e down kana go diragala eng. You should be able to sell di le about 1.5 million to 2 million, fa o lebelela gore kgomo ya gago as and when you want to sell it and get off take ya 10 per cent ngwaga le ngwaga go raya gore your money o ye go ithusa ditiro tsa gago. ke 150, 000 to 200, 000 mo go rayang gore le yone Honourable Lesaso o ne a bua ka ditsela, ke tsaya gore throughput ya di BMC tsotlhe ka bobedi, ga e ka ke ya ya infrastructure jaaka ke ne ke bua, ke e e amileng lekana. We need to sort out these things before re ka motlotlegi mongwe le mongwe yo o neng a akgela. O akanya gore BMC e tswelela ka mokgwa o o ntseng ne a supa gape gore dikgang tsa dairy, ba na le dipolase. jang. Ke dilo tse jaaka ke ne ke bua, re dumelang gore Re malala-a-laotswe e bile re phuthologile gore re ka interventions tse re di dirang gompieno, di tlaa re thusa. kgona go tshwaragana le lona Honourable Lesaso. Fa re Kgang ya infrastructure ke tsaya gore e builwe kgonang teng, re kgone go thusa lefatshe le ka kgang ya ke Honourable Member mongwe le mongwe gore go ntsha mashi. Mashi ke nngwe ya dilo tse e leng gore ditlamelo go ya kwa production areas di botlhokwa. we import ka bontsi le value chain ya teng bo cheese, Ke boela fa moragonyana, pele ga ke go tsenya fale le yoghurt ke dilo tse e leng gore tsotlhe re a di import. Fa P.P.P., ke ne ke santse ke bua ka kgang ya gore gatwe re e ne e le gore re kgona dilo tseo locally, di ka kgona go bereka jang le Ministry of Trade ka dikgang tsa ranch re thusa ka dikgang tsa mebereko le go fokotsa import ecology report. Kana go botlhokwa gore re lebelele bill. Le gore re tswe mo risk ya to depend mo go tseyeng dilo tse re di balance, yes, gongwe go ka tswa go diega kwa ntle, o tlaa fitlhela go re tsentse mo mathateng fa e kana go tsala bonya gore re bo re batla ranch ecology le gore ba re tsayang kwa go bone ba feletswe. O ne o report. Tumelo ya me ke gore, ke bona go sireletsa buile ka kgang ya Serowe Milking Parlour e ke tsayang yo o adimang madi le yo o tlaabong a adimiwa madi, gore gongwe go tlaa nna botoka le rona re e iponela ka gongwe re ka bua ka kgang ya gore re dira jang gore matlho. Re tle re bone gore bothata ke eng, go ka tweng

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gore re kgone go e tsosolosa gape e tsene mo tirisong. to discussions. Se ke ka go se tlhomamisetsang ke gore, Kgang ya Artificial Insemination (AI), ke supile gore re facility ke ya rona, bone ba tlhokana le tiriso ya gore ba baakanya AI centres tsa rona gore… bolaye, ba tseye carcass ba ye go rekisa kwa lefatsheng la bone. Ke raya gore in terms of lease, e tlaabo e ntse MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, there jalo. Ga re ise re tsene kwa kgannyeng ya issues tsa is a request from Honourable Tshabang and also from lease gore di ya go nna jang. E santse e supa the intent Honourable Brooks for clarification. to lease.

MR GARE: Ke kopa o ba fe second, second, fa ba Kgang ya ranch ecology; ke batla o ntlhaloganya fetelela, o bo o ba kgaola. motlotlegi. Ga ke tseele gore ke kgang ya gore go na MR CHAIRPERSON: Le utlwile borra. le research per se. CEDA e na le golo mo gotweng portfolio kana loan book, mma ke rialo. Loan book ya DR TSHABANG: Clarification. Thank you Mr teng le a e lebelela as an organisation, le bo le bona Chairperson. Honourable Gare, ke ne ke utlwa o re, you gore projects that fail di kana, mabaka a tsone ke eng. are going to lease Francistown BMC for dipodi tse di Ke bo ke supa gore fa gongwe dikgomo do not perform yang Saudi Arabia. So, does that mean opportunity ya because of challenges tsa phulo jalojalo. Ga o ka ke wa dikgomo for the North is dead? Lastly, lease ya teng e itlhokomolosa se o re, legonyana le gongwe le gongwe, tlaabo e ntse jang? Le e neela maArabia completely kana go raya gore ga re ka ke ra tlhokana le go tlhomamisa re na le control over it? A ke rona re bolayang dipodi, gore phulo e siame. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, ga se kgang re bo re ba rekisetsa nama, kana bone ba reka di tshela, ya go tsena mo sekgweng Honourable Motaosane. Ke ba bo ba ipolaela ba tsamaya ka tsone? Thank you very kgang ya gore ga ke dumalane le yone mo go diegeng. much. As a requirement, fa ke tla ka dikgomo di le 100, ke tshwanetse to establish gore a mme phulo e e foo, e ka MR BROOKS: Clarification. Thank you Mr tshegetsa dikgomo tse 100 kana 400. Fa gongwe o tlaa Chairperson. Ke batla go botsa ka ranch ecologist gore fitlhela polase e tona but phulo e sa lekana go tshegetsa a ba kile ba dira ditlhotlhomiso before they introduced dikgomo tse 400. Ke dumela gore fa re re Batswana, a it? Go palelwa ke go duela ga barui ba ba adimilweng re tlhokomologeng this requirement ba tseye madi fela, madi is because ga go na tlhotlhomiso e e tseneletseng re tlile go iphitlhela kamoso re re CEDA e gapela batho, ya tshekatsheko ya go ... Ke sone se ba feletseng ba mme maikaelelo e ne e se go ba gapela. tla ka gore go nne le ranch ecologist e e babalelang Batswana ka bokete jo bo kanakana. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, madi a, le one ga ba a adime Gare fela. Gare o tshwanetse a adime, a buse. Re tshwanetse MR MOTAOSANE: Clarification. Thank you Mr re lebelele risks tse di ka dirang gore Gare a palelwe Chairperson. Honourable Minister, kgang ya ecology ke go duela loan re di ntsha mo tseleng, gore go tle report fa e le gore o dumalana le yone, go raya gore go nne motlhofo for him to run a business. Ke tsaya o re tsenela ka sekgwa. A ko o tlhamalale fela. This gore ga re ka ke ra itlhokomolosa kgang ya go netefatsa morning when we were debating issue ya Ministry of gore a phulo e siametse leruo la foo. Ga se go tsena Trade, your junior Minister o ne a tlhalosa dilo tse. O mo sekgweng Honourable Member. Ke tseela gore ne a e gakgamalela, a batla gore ba CEDA ba tseye information kwa go lona. Jaanong fa o e baya jaana go botlhokwa gore re lebelele seemo sa go nna jalo. Honourable Minister, o kare le a ganetsana le monnao. Otherwise re tlile go iphitlhela le bone Batswana le ba I did not see se, go tswa bogologolong jaaka go tla go golegile ka madi, kamoso e bo le lelekane le bone mo ruiwa dikgomo honourable. A ko o tlhalose sentle. Golo seterateng kana madi a re a adimang ba bangwe, a seo. foo ga ke go utlwe sentle. Mr Chairperson, fa ke tswelela, ke lebile gore nako ya MR GARE: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Kgang ya me e a sia, ke dumela gore batlotlegi ka bontsi ba ne ba kwa BMC Francistown, ka fa e leng designed ka teng bua dikgang tse di tshwanang… Honourable Tshabang, e na le component ya go tlhaba MR CHAIRPERSON: Minister, there is another dipodi le dikgomo. Ga go reye gore fa re e dirisa to request from Honourable Healy for clarification. slaughter dipodi, go raya gore dikgomo go tlaabo go se na opportunity ya gore di ka tlhabiwa. Jaaka ke ne MR GARE: Can I please respond to at least two ke supa, it is an intent to lease e e leng gore it is subject Members of Parliament (MPs) before ke ka mo neela.

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Go ahead. Honourable Motaosane le ene o buile ka dikgang tsa gore e se ka ya nna business as usual. Ke dumalana le MR GARE: Honourable Lesedi o ne a bua ka BMC ene gore it cannot be business as usual but ga se gore le cordon fence tse ke tsayang gore re setse re buile ka batho ba mo Gaborone. In my view, I think ke kgang tsone. A bua ka collection centre le dikokwanyane and ya gore, it is high time we involve the private sector ke tlhalositse ka botlalo gore re re amogela gore there is because fa re batla go ntsha dijo, mme re na le batho challenge ya vertical integration. Jaaka ke ne ke supa, ga ba ba kgonang ditiro tsa go tipa masimo, go tlhatlhelela re bereke re le nosi, re bereka le Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry jalojalo. We have once engaged batho ka kgang ya temo, ke dumela gore ke dikgang tse batho ba Competition Authority go re lebalebisa gore re ka di lebelelang. Re na le bana ba ba gobeang mo go ka nna ka mokgwa o o ntseng jang. Re tsweletse ka mekgwatheng. Gongwe re bone gore re ka dira jang ka go akantshana gore re ka dira jang kgang e ya vertical bone gore ba nne on site go dira tiro ya extension go integration, re e bolaye. Kgang ya diphoko le yone jalo thusa balemi gore ba ntshe thobo e e rileng. o ne o bua boammaaruri rra. Re tlaa tswelela re ntse re O buile ka mabaka a CEDA le NDB di a ntshang to bona gore re dira jang gore e felele e tswela Batswana reject batho. Honourable Member, ke ka se ka ka akgela mosola. thata ka gore dilo tse, di batla re di leba case by case. O O ne o bua ka kgang ya service centre e e kwa Serowe ne o bua ka kgang ya gore 150 hectares, ke tsaya gore e maloba honourable a neng a re ga e a agiwa ka gore gongwe was guided by dipatlisiso. Go a tlamega gore batho ga ba a tlhopha sentle. Ke tlhalose gore nnyaa, se o gompieno Honourable Member, re lebelele gore a 20 neng o se bua, ga se boammaaruri. Ga e a agiwa ka nako hectares o viable, can it be funded kana jang. Ke dilo tse e Mopalamente wa kgaolo ya Serowe South e neng e le ke tsayang gore they can be subjected to research. Re moDomkrag. E ne e le Mma Moitoi. Ga e a ntshiwa mo netefatse go bona gore go ka nna jang. Kgang ya Keeper lenaneong ka mabaka a gore batho ba ne ba sa tlhopha ID e Honourable Leuwe a kileng a botsa ka yone; mo go sentle. E ntshitswe ka mabaka a gore lefelo le go neng yone re leka to synchronise gore dilo tse di tsamaisane. gotwe e agiwa kwa go lone, was not suitable gore go ka bewa service centre teng. E rile fa re santse re re re Honourable Mmolotsi o ne a supa gore mo kgannyeng ya tlaa bona lefelo le le rileng, re bo re nna le kgwetlho ya Saudi Arabia, ke dipuo fela tse di senang boammaaruri. madi. Re na maikaelelo a go batla lefelo le le siametseng Nnyaa, golo mo ke go timetsa Batswana. Ga go na kgang service centre, re bo re e aga kwa Serowe South. e e leng gore ga e na boammaaruri. Jaaka ke etle ke MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, there is supe, mosadi fa o mo nyala, ga o mmone mo seterateng yet another clarification by Honourable Thiite. kamoso o bo o tla o mo rwesitse lesire. Le tsena mo mererong gore mosadi yo, ke a mo nyala jangjang. Ga o MR GARE: Go setse five minutes, Budget ya me e tloga mo tseye fela o bo o feta ka ene o tabogile. So, le rona re e sa fetisiwe. Ke kopa ke tswelele mo gongwe re tlaa mo morerong wa gore re rekisa jang nama ya rona kwa tsenya questions without notice. Saudi Arabia. I respond to kgang ya ga His Honour the Vice President; Ga se gore go didimala ga rona, kana go tlhoka gore re bo o ne a supa jalo gore he appreciates kgang ya the targets re saenne tumalano, go raya gore ga go na boammaaruri tse re neng re di supile in our report. Agriculture e ka mo go se re se dirang. re thusa mo poverty eradication le go nyeletsa tlala mo lefatsheng la Botswana. O buile gape ka kgang ya O ne a bua ka kgang ya farm improvements, ke re, we cordon fences le value chains tse ke dumalanang le ene. are reviewing ISPAAD go bona gore re ka dira jang go Reports di supa gore we import about P7.745 billion thusa balemi. worth of processed food. Fa e ne e le gore imports tse, re di dira mo ga rona, go ne go ka re re direla ditiro, ga bo Ke utlule kakgelo ya gago Honourable Leuwe, ke ga fokotsa import bill e e kanakana. Kgang ya research tsaya gore yone e ne e bua ka dilo tsa bo infrastructure and development ga se e e tlhokang go buiwa ka lebaka, jalo, le gone gore service centres di se ka tsa nna white ke boammaaruri jo bo tlhamaletseng. O ne a bua gape elephants. Re leka ka bojotlhe Honourable Member ka kgang ya vertical integration gore gongwe le yone gore dilo tse re leke go di tsenya mo tirisong, di re fe re tshwanetse re e sekaseke, re bone gore re e dira ka maduo a re neng re eleditse gore di ka re fa one mo mokgwa o o ntseng jang. temong ya rona.

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Kgang ya ISPAAD e a diega ka mabaka a gore kana consultation e tsenya batho ba kwa dikgaolong. Go botlhokwa to engage them, re utlwe megopolo le dikakanyo tsa bone gore ISPAAD e ka ba berekela ka mokgwa o o ntseng jang.

Batlotlegi, ga ke a kgona to respond dikgang tsotlhe ka mabaka a nako. Mr Chairperson, I therefore move that the sum of One Billion, Three Hundred and Ninety-One Million, Nine Hundred and Ninety-Seven Thousand, Five Hundred and Ten Pula (P1 391 997 510.00) under Recurrent Estimates, and the sum of Nine Hundred and Seventy- Eight Million, Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P978 500 000.00) under Development Estimates be approved and stand as part of the Schedule and Estimates. I thank you Mr Chairman.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Order! Honourable Members, you are now going to vote.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse Honourable Balopi Honurable Boko Honourable Brooks √ Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff Honourable Hikuama √ Honourable Kablay √ Honourable Kapinga √ Honourable Kekgonegile √ Honourable Keorapetse Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela Honourable Khama √ Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo √ Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake √

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Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi Honourable Monnakgotla Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi Honourable Reatile √ Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo √ Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ Honourable Tsogwane √

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rakgare, o ka boela kgang ele morago.

DR DOW: Honourable Speaker, aye. Why was I not called?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ne o biditswe Mma Dow, ga o a araba.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe Skelemani fa a seyo jaana…

CLERK: Honourable Boko.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, can you listen now.

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MR BOKO: Aye!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mme ke ne ke reeditse from the start ke utlwile Rre Autlwetse, ke bo ke utlwa go tlolwa...

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go biditswe Balopi go bo gotwe…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Can you listen Honourable Members! Can you listen, she is starting again!

CLERK: Honourable Boko.

MR BOKO: Aye.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, a ko o kgaogane le Boko, ga nke a tlhopha gape.

CLERK: Honourable Kgafela.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, VP ga o mpuise sentle.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members can you listen! Can you listen Honourable Members!

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ntse o seyo ga re itse gore o tswa kae, o tswa from leave.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, can we listen.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Can you mute the VP.

CLERK: Honourable Kgafela.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kgafela, we can see you but we cannot hear you. Can you send a chat? Send your message through the chat.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Sign language e teng.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: A tsholetse letsogo la aye, la moja.

…Silence…

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, there are the results of your voting; Aye- 48, No- nil, Abstain- nil, Absent-15. That means the Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, it is now 6 o’clock I shall now call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mme o ka bo o gakolotse selo sa ntlha tsamaiso gore, Rre Motsamai a se ka a nna a tlhoka go ikwala leina a bo a tla a go omanya. Whips ke tsone tse di isang maina koo, ga ke itse gore yo o mo tseetseng tiro koo ke mang. Fa a itebala go tswa foo o tlile to complain kwa go wena. Ke kopa jaana Mr Speaker gore batlotlegi ba ye go ikhutsa.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Wednesday 10th March, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.

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Table 1: Recurrent budget performance as at 28th February 2021

Org code Approved Warranted Actual Unspent Expenditure (%) Budget Provision Balance Department Expenditure 0501 Headquarters 401,927,250 496,485,023 479,873,406 16,611,618 96.7,’m; ,’m; t4a1

S}”j Crop 236,537,680 226,787,512 207,341,926 19,445,586 91.0

Production

0504 Agriculture 96,438,380 93,299,264 91,469,260 1,830,004 98.0 Research

0507 Animal 140,791,860 131,792,501 122,076,860 9,715,640 92.6

Production 0509 Agricultural 36,089,500 34,887,017 31,916,805 2,970,212 91.5

Business

Promotions 0510 Veterinary 452,185,930 434,383,168 408,167,742 26,215,426 94.0 Services

0511 Agricultural 23,835,630 22,824,685 19,470,052 3,354,633 85.0

Research

Statistics and

Policy

Development Grand total 1,387,806,230 1,440,459,170 1,360,316,051 80,143,119 94.0

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Table 2: Development expenditure performance as at 28th February 2021

Revised Actual Expenditure Expenditure 2020/21 Budget (P) Levels TARGET (P) % % VARIANCE NO Description % 1. Social 1 024 900 000 782 583 140.63 76.36 100 -23.7 Protection (ISPAAD, LIMID, ASSP, Livestock Subsidy and Strategic Grain Reserves) 2. Infrastructure 67 100 000 45 136 339.37 67.27 100 -32.73

3 Research and 30 000 000 30 000 000 100 100 0 Development 4. ITC 15 300 000 6 022 505.42 39.36 100 -60.64

TOTAL 1 137 300 000 863,741,985.42 78 100 -22 MOA DEV BUDGET

Hansard No 201 63 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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