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Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security

Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAY 17TH MARCH, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 1-8

APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 2000 - Ministry of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism (Resumed Debate)...... 9-14 Organisation 1100 - Ministry of Health and Wellness...... 15-39

Organisation 2500 - Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security...... 40-41 Wednesday 17th March, 2021 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

Wednesday 17th March, 2021 DR GOBOTSWANG: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Honourable Minister, ke a go utlwa. Tsone THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. mme dituelo tse le lekang go thusa ba ba seng lesego (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) ka tsone, sentlentle le a bo le lebile eng? A ke dituelo tsa itshetso kgotsa ke gore fela ba ye go reka motlakase P R A Y E R S kana ba duele metsi? Sentlentle maikaelelo a tsone ke eng? * * * * Ya bobedi; ke tsaya gore Honourable Minister, o motho QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER yo o badileng, o tsene dikole ke a itse. Ke ne ke batla SOCIAL PROTECTION PROGRAMMES go itse gore mme ka kitso ya gago, a le teng lefatshe la itsholelo ya seemo sa Botswana, kwa e leng gore bagodi DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- ba teng ba duelwa madi a a kwa tlase ga P600.00? Ke RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Local a leboga. Government and Rural Development: MR MODUKANELE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa (i) to update this Honourable House on his previous Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Gongwe ke simolole kgang assurance that he will rationalise social protection ya ga Rre Gobotswang with his last intervention. Nte programmes into five streams; and ke riana ke supe gore, the P530.00 yo re mo duelang, (ii) whether the exercise entails improvement of fa o e leba fela e le P530.00 as a figure, e tlaa lebega allowances or cash in kind for Village Development e le nnyennyane Dr Gobotswang, mme if you look at Committees (VDCs), old age pension, disability it in totality, o lebelela gore bagodi ba gone mo gae, allowance, Ipelegeng and destitute allowance. fa a ya kwa sepateleng, a ya go batla dipilisi tsa Blood Pressure (BP), tsa sukiri, a ya go batla thuso epe fela ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL kwa sepateleng, he is given this almost for free. You are GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT the first person to agree with me gore tsotlhe dithuso tse (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Good ke di buileng tse, a ke molemo wa BP, dipilisi tsa sukiri afternoon, and good afternoon to Rre Gobotswang as a ke tsa eng, they go well over the P5.00 or P2.00 yo re well. ka bong re mo duela nna le wena fa re ya kwa sepateleng sa public. (i) Mr Speaker, my ministry has developed a National Social Protection Framework, which was approved Ga go felele fela foo, itse gore le bone bagodi ba re by Cabinet in August 2020. This is a blue print that buang ka bone gompieno, re mo fa madi one ao a a seeks to position the social protection system so ka rekang dijo tse o neng o bua ka tsone, go tsweng that it can effectively and efficiently respond to the foo, re mo fa madi a seshabo, go tswa foo, e ntse e le varied risks and vulnerabilities faced by Batswana ene gape, fa e le gore gongwe o kile a ya kwa ntweng of different age groups. An Inter-Ministerial kana ga nna jang, re mo fa le one ao gape Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. I would want to plead with Steering Committee is in place to spearhead the you Dr Honourable Gobotswang, gore look at this thing rationalisation beginning financial year 2021/22. in totality. Do not just isolate a single benefit o bo o re (ii) Mr Speaker, it is expected that as social protection e nnyennyane. Mafatshe one a o a buang, they probably programmes are rationalised, and the Single do not do what I have just said. Gongwe batho fa ba ya Social Registry is implemented, overlaps, kwa sepateleng, ba a duela jalojalo. Therefore, e re fa re duplications and double dipping will be identified dira comparison, let us make a meaningful comparison and eliminated. This Mr Speaker, hopefully, e e lebegang e ka dirwa ke motho wa seemo sa gago will free funds to other priorities, including Dr Gobotswang. That will be my plea for now. A re e consideration for increments of the allowances lebelele jalo motho wetsho. for Village Development Committees(VDCs), The first question o e ntebaditse ka go bua thata ka Old Age Pension, Disability Allowance, Destitute kgang ya nnetane. O ne o re tota ba felwa eng madi a? Allowance and Ipelegeng. Mr Speaker, I thank Dr Gobotswang, maloba fa re bua ka Motion wa ga… you.

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DR GOBOTSWANG: Le a bo le lebile eng fa le set nako epe fela. Including le bone bo VDC, ga re eme go madi a teng? sekaseka Mr Speaker. The only constraint e e teng e bile Honourable Member should acknowledge, ke yone ya MR MODUKANELE: Ee rra, ke go utlwile. Maloba fa gore seemo from time to time sa itsholelo se a bo se ntse re bua ka Motion wa ga Rraagwe Nkamo, Honourable jang. Ke e fete jalo. As for regards to the study sa gore a Member for Tonota, ke tsaya gore we went to town, ra mme… kana batho betsho, re na le bommaboipelego, le leka go tlhalosa ka botlalo gore fa re simolola it was ba ba rutilweng ke Rre Lucas who continuously assess, to appreciate. Gompieno yone e ya dijo, re leka go ba bo ba a fa dikgakololo tse di maleba gore fa motho a ntsha batho mo manokonokong a seemong se ba ka na le se, le se, botshelo bo ka tswelela. This is not rocket iphitlhelang ba le mo go sone sa poverty, if I were to say science Mr Speaker, boammaaruri ke gore re a itse le that. The ultimate goal ga se fela go felela re ba neela wena Honourable Member gore fa ke na le letogo la dijo, it is to make sure gore ultimately jaaka ba thusiwa phaleche le seshabo sa go reng, botshelo bo tshwanetse ka mananeo a a farologanyeng, we graduate them out bo tswelele. I thank you Mr Speaker. of the poverty cycle or trap. That is the ultimate goal motho wetsho. Re a bo re lebile go netefatsa gore ga ILLEGAL ABORTIONS go na Motswana ope jaaka Tona a a tle a bue, yo kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi, gotwe o bolailwe ke tlala kana o MR T. LETSHOLO (KANYE NORTH): asked the ka bolawa ke tlala, Goromente wa Domkrag a santse a Minister of Health and Wellness to state: le gone fa. That has not happened and that will never (i) the extent of illegal abortions in Botswana and happen. Ga go ise go ko go diragale, e bile ga ke dumele associated reasons; and gore go ka diragala Mr Speaker. I thank you. (ii) the negative outcomes of illegal abortions. MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke go leboge Tona ka karabo eo. Ke go utlwe ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND sentle gore a ka fa o buang ka teng, o a re tlhomamisetsa WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you Tona gore nnyaa, mme o tlaa sekaseka le yone ya very much Mr Speaker and good afternoon. I tried to Ipelegeng, ka gore ke utlwa o kare o feta ka bonako call you earlier, o ne o sa arabe. thata, jaanong ga ba a go utlwa sentle, ke dumela jalo le kwa lelwapeng, gore a le yone ya maVDC, o tlaa ya go Mr Speaker, I wish to hasten to explain that the e sekaseka o bona gore e welana sentle? international language or vocabulary is unsafe abortions, not illegal abortions. As such Botswana has adopted Jaanong go na le kgang fela e e leng gore tota ga o a e that international terminology. That notwithstanding, araba o tsenela kwa teng, o e tlhalosa sentle gore tota fa there is noticeable difficulty in obtaining data on unsafe le duela jaana Honourable Minister, a go na le sengwe abortions, because of the high level of under-reporting study, ke tlaa e baya jalo gore gongwe o tlhaloganye, sa of abortions experienced countywide. As a result, tshekatsheko se se reng nnyaa, mme study se re raya se Botswana does not have official data or records on re motho yo o ka duelwa jaana? E ka nna madi a bagodi, unsafe abortions, as it is difficult to determine whether kana e ka nna a social protection gore mme study sone the pregnancy was induced or spontaneous. In almost se supa gore motho yo o ka duelwa jaana. Re sa sie, all cases attended for abortion, clients usually report it re iphitlha ka gore mme kana motho yo o tlaa ja kwa as spontaneous. veteran, o tlaa ja fa kae gape. A mme madinyana one a a lekane? Ke tsaya gore o a ntlhaloganya. What really Mr Speaker, a recent study on Botswana’s Strategic informs you? Thank you so much. Assessment of Policies, Programmes and Research on Unintended Pregnancies, Conceptions and Unsafe MR MODUKANELE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Abortion on Abortions Services in Botswana, final report Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke fete ka bonako jo bokalo ya di 27 tsa ga August 2020 has outlined the following ke re Honourable Member for Palapye, ga re nke re findings regarding the reasons for unsafe abortions. An ema go sekaseka, ga re nke re ema go bona gore mo unsafe abortion may be initiated by a woman or girl, go lekanye kana jang. Se ke se buang fela ke gore, partner or parent and the reasons often vary as follows, ditshekatsheko are continuous, go bona gore se batho ba se neelwang, a ke se se ka tswelelang tota se ba (a) Lack of knowledge about safe abortion services that baya mo seemong sa gore ba se ka ba lala ka legaba ka are provided by the ministry,

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(b) Stigma of unplanned pregnancy, MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. Like I said in my answer, I said it is quite (c) Shameful feeling or guilt of bearing a child before difficult to differentiate the two, as clients come to marriage, hospital and all claim that the abortion was spontaneous. (d) Avoidance of parental or guardian disappointment There is no how now we can hold them to say that it is or resentment, illegal or not illegal. That is the difficulty that we have as the ministry. Like I am saying abortion in Botswana is (e) Desire to pursue education, allowed, like I said maloba in my answer. There are two medical officers who are allowed by law to terminate (f) Woman or girl feeling abandoned by their male pregnancy. Go tlhokafala dingaka di le pedi, ba reeditse partners and thus feeling inadequate to care for the molwetse ka fa a neng a tla a present kgang ya gagwe baby alone, ka teng fa a sa batle that pregnancy Mr Speaker. Ke a (g) Socio-economic conditions, poverty as a perceived leboga. influence for unsafe abortion practices. MR LETSHOLO: Ga a nkarabe Mr Speaker.

(ii) The negative outcome of unsafe abortions include; MR SPEAKER: I know. Honourable Minister? (a) Increased risk of mobility and mortality,… go MR LELATISITSWE: Ga ke arabe fa kae Mr Speaker? diragala eng jaanong? Mr Speaker, something is happening. MR SPEAKER: A re reetsane Honourable Minister. Mo lefatsheng le jaaka o itse, go na le molao, wena wa MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Tswelela o bale. re molao o o letla gore go ka fedisiwa boimana ka fa tlase ga molao. Jaanong, fa go emisiwa boimana e seng MR LELATISITSWE: Okay. ka fa tlase ga molao, o go bitsa o reng?

(a) Long term health consequences resulting from MR LELATISITSWE: Mr Speaker, ke sone se ke abortion complications such as perforations, other se buang ke re go thata, batho ba teng kana ba tla mo physical trauma and septic shock, sepateleng ka tebo ya rona ya matlho ba setse ba emisitse (b) Possible loss of productivity from abortion related boimana. Fa ba bodiwa gore go ntse jang, ba bua gore to mobility and mortality among women go diragetse fela, bone ga ba itse gore go diragetse eng. Kana jaanong dikgang tse di tshwanang le tse rona re le (c) Possible future infertility and abortion related ba botsogo, re a bo re batla go thusa molwetse, re boloka psycho-social problems. botshelo jo bo tsileng fa go rona.

I thank you Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: You are answering a question which has not been asked. MR LETSHOLO: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. May I ask the Honourable Minister to please MR LETSHOLO: Can I ask differently Mr Speaker confirm that, because I heard him making the distinction please? between unsafe and illegal. I was particularly interested in those abortions that are illegal. Illegal in the sense MR SPEAKER: Yes, Honourable Letsholo. of not permissible by law, considering the answer that MR LETSHOLO: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke botse he gave recently to a question by Honourable Dow, Tona gore, a go ya ka ene mme kana mosetsana yo o where he expressed that there are some pregnancy iphitlhelang mo seemong se a itsholofetseng, a tsogile terminations that are permissible by law, but then there sentle a sena mathata ape mo mmeleng, mathata a are some that are not. In this instance I am talking about those that are not permissible by law, and asking for the gagwe fela e le gore ga a mo seemong sa gore a bo a extent of those and in fact wanting to know from the ipaakanyeditse go tswelela le boimana joo, a jaanong Minister, if he does not think that it is time to legalise ene o ka itlhophela go emisa boimana joo? E se ka those pregnancy terminations. He said no numbers, but thotloetso ya dingaka, e le fela ka ene go itlhophela e even one life that is lost as a result of this, is one life too le mme gore ga a mo seemong se se siameng jaanong o many. Thank you. eletsa gore a emise boimana joo.

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MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. e ne e tshwanetse go dirwa e le tshwaragano magareng Jaaka ke buile, fa mme a na le mathata a a ntseng jalo, ga lephata la rona le kompone e e bidiwang Direction those are psychological issues around boimana jo a Global. E rile fa dipuisanyo di ntse di tsweletse le nang le jone. Ke dumela gore o tshwanetse go tla kwa kompone yone eo, lephata la rona la lemoga fa go na le bongakeng, bone dingaka tse pedi tse di leng teng mo dingwe tse di neng di sa jese diwelang ka tshwaragano sepatela, they will decide ba sena go reetsa kgang ya e. Go ne ga supafala gore motlhala wa kompone le gone gagwe gore a ba ka tswelela to terminate boimana jo a go ba itse jaaka e le tshwanelo ya gore re le lephata re tlang ka jone. Ke rile tshwetso e e tsewa ke dingaka tse ba itse gore ke bomang ba tswa kae, ga lebega seo e le pedi. selo se se dingalo. Mme ga re a ka ra dumalana le gore re tswelele, ka re ne re sa bona se re neng re se batla ka MR SPEAKER: Honourable Letsholo, I think we have kompone yone eo. Re lekile go ikgotsofatsa Mr Speaker, got a difficulty of confirmation. ra se ka ra kgona go bona tsotlhe tse re neng re di tlhoka ka kompone eo, ka jalo he, ra tsaya tshwetso ya gore ga HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Laughter!)… re ke re tswelele ka tomagano kana tshwaragano ya rona le kompone ya Direction Global. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O dira ka bomo Lelatisitswe. Jaaka ke kile ka supa Mr Speaker, mo nakong e e fetileng, fa re ka bona madi re le lephata, kana ra bona RE-EMPLOYMENT OF PUBLIC SERVICE bagwebi ba ba nang le maikaelelo, ba le mo seemong sa WORKERS go tshwaragana le rona gore re age lebala kwa motseng wa Mahalapye, re ka itumela thata mme e bile re tlaa MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked dira jalo. Mo nakong ya gompieno, lephata ga le mo the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and seemong sa go thusa ka kago ya lebala, mathata e le lone Public Administration to brief this Honourable House letlhoko la madi. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. on the progress made so far in the re-employment of workers dismissed during the 2011 Public Service YOUTH REPRESENTATION IN SENIOR Industrial Action; in particular to state: MANAGEMENT POSITIONS

(i) the total number dismissed in 2011 and the number MR S. N. MOABI (TATI WEST): asked the employed so far; and Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration to state the percentage of youth (ii) the reasons for non-employment of the rest and representation in senior management positions in plans put in place to employ them. Government and parastatals. Later Date. ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION OF SPORTS COMPLEX IN ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Mr MAHALAPYE SUB-DISTRICT Speaker, the Revised National Youth Policy of 2010, MR D. TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): asked the defines youth as persons of ages of between 15 to 35 Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture years. Section 2 of the Public Service Act 2008 provides Development to update this Honourable House on the that, senior management means those persons in the progress made since the last report on the construction public service who are appointed by the Permanent of a sports complex with facilities for all sporting codes Secretary to the President or the President. These in the Mahalapye Sub-District. are graded E2 and above. The total number of public officers holding senior management positions is 1039, MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, out of which 10 are youth. This translates to about 1 per SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR cent of the public service senior management positions. RAKGARE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, go mpha sebaka. Ke leboga le Honourable Tshere ka potso e. Regarding parastatals; senior management levels differ, depending on the parastatals. The total number of senior Maikaelelo a Lephata la Tlhabololo Banana, management employees in parastatals is 470, of which Metshameko le Ngwao, e ne e le go aga lebala la 32 are youth. This translates to 6.8 per cent of the senior metshameko le tsotlhe tse di tlhokegang mo lebaleng, management establishment in all parastatals. I thank kwa motseng wa Mahalapye ka ngwaga wa 2015. Tiro e you Mr Speaker.

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MR MOABI: Supplementary. Ke a go leboga Tona. Ke in future, di tlaa lebelelwa to address that problem e o a go utlwa ka fa o supang ka teng. Tona, dipalo tse o di buang ka yone ya go batla bana ba bannye mo senior supang tseo, ga o bone di le kwa tlase, re lebile lefatshe management positions. Mme dinako tse dingwe gape la rona ka fa dipalo tsa banana di leng kwa godimo ka gatwe kana fa motho a ntse a gola jaana, o nna le level teng? Le ya go dira eng go bona gore dipalo tse le a of maturity le wisdom e e fetang ya ngwananyana yo di oketsa? Fa o ka lebelela, go tlaabo gotwe go batlega monnyennyane. Gongwe ba pele fa ba dira dilo tse, ba motho yo o nang le 10 years experience, gongwe that is ne ba lebile gone moo. why dipalo di le kwa tlase. Re ya go bona golo mo Tona, Jaanong ya the boards Rre Moabi, tota o ne o sa bua ka go ema leng? yone, o ne o buile ka the employees tsa these parastatals Tona, o ka bo gongwe o supile gore jaaka o ne wa bala ka le Government, that is why we were dealing with it. Fa o batla, re ka ya go e senka, gongwe ra go e tlisetsa in the dipalo, ba mo maphateng afe? In the boards tse di teng future. Thank you Mr Speaker. tsa bo Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA), Power le kwa bo Water, o ka bo o supile gore CAPACITY BUILDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL mme banana ba kae in those boards? Ke a leboga Mr HEALTH PERSONNEL Speaker. MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): MR MTHIMKHULU: Thank you Mr Speaker. asked the Minister of Health and Wellness whether Honourable Moabi, ke dumalana le wena gore dipalo delegation of Environmental Health responsibilities tse tsa banana, di kwa tlase fela thata, le rona re ka to the Ministry of Local Government and Rural itumela thata fa di ka oketsega. Fa o lebelela sentle, o Development meant that he should not take interest in tlaa fitlhela gore an average person, a graduate from capacity building of Environmental Health personnel any tertiary institution mo Botswana, on average, at the Ministry of Local Government and Rural graduates a le around 23/25 years old. Jaanong in Development and by extension the local authorities; the past, e ne e le policy ya ga Goromente gore batho and if so: they progress with years, go fitlhelela ba tsena kwa go one maemo a a kwa godimo ao, senior management (i) did he ever facilitate such capacity building and positions. Fa o bala dingwaga tsa teng, o tlaa fitlhela when; if not gore go simologa fela from entry level, o ya go wela kwa (ii) has he not abdicated his responsibility and done a positions tsa bo E1, E2, motho a tsere more than 10 to disservice to the principles of delegation. 15 years. Fa o bala fela, o tla fitlhela gore dingwaga tsa teng di feta tsone dingwaga tse di beilweng tsa youth, ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND tsa 35 years. Batho ba teng ba simolola go nna eligible WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you through length of service, go tsena kana to be promoted so much Mr Speaker. My delegation of environmental into those positions, ka gore ba ne ba fitlhela ba bangwe health responsibilities to the Ministry of Local ba ntse ba tsamaya ba tlhatlosiwa (promoted) jalo, ba Government and Rural Development (MLGD) does not setse ba fetile ene 35, ba le mo go bo 40 years. So ke mean that I should not take an interest in the capacity problem e e leng teng. building of environmental health personnel in that ministry. Neither does it mean that my ministry does Jaanong tsa the adverts tse o buang ka tsone, kana go not, by extension have responsibility to local authorities. a bo go lebilwe progression ya batho mo maemong, The powers vested in my ministry through the Public mo Goromente a tsamayang ka teng. Go lebeletswe Health Act of 2014, and the Food Control Act of 1993 gore motho fa a tsena mo position e e batliwang, e e has responsibility to ensure that the relevant officials are bapaditsweng, a bo a tsere dingwaga tse kae gore properly qualified to do the work. a fitlhe gone koo kana ke batho ba dingwaga tsekae generally gore ba bo ba le foo. Tota go lebilwe gore go The ministry in its effort to support officers has batliwa experience e motho a ka tswang a na le yone. continuously provided capacity building to the districts Re a dumalana gore gongwe go lebelela dingwaga le through workshops, support visits and fora with the aim experience e ka tswa e se dilo tse di siameng ka gore of ultimately protecting health. It is worth noting that gongwe o tlaa fitlhela gore batho ba bannyennyane ba long term trainings, promotions and staff welfare issues ka tswa ba na le kitso e e fetang ya batho ba dingwaga are catered for by the Ministry of Local Government tse dintsi ba le mo tirong. Ke dilo tse e leng gore gongwe and Rural Development.

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(i) To date, the following capacity building initiatives and evidence-based decisions making for have been undertaken: health system interventions.

(a) 2020: Management of COVID-19 (Infection (ii) Mr Speaker, the information stated above is an Prevention and Control) training; indication that the ministry has not abdicated its responsibility, and has therefore, not done (b) 2020 and on-going: Management of Clinical any disservice to the principles of delegation. Waste training; Rather it has empowered more stakeholders, thus (c) April 2019 - March 2020: capacity building expanding its scope of operation and thereby on food handlers training facilitation, on food leveraging on the power of collaboration. I thank safety and hygiene in Government institutions you, Mr Speaker. and primary schools; MR REATILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. (d) 2018 - 2019: capacity building on Listeriosis Thank you Honourable Minister. Tona, o tshwanetse go outbreak, as well as drinking water and food gakologelwa gore golo mo it is a follow-up question, sampling guidelines; ke potso ya bobedi ke e botsa. Tona, a o ka dumalana le nna ke go raya ke re potso e o kileng wa e araba? O ne (e) June to July 2019: capacity building on new o supa gore ga o itse le gore a batho ba go nna jaana ba regulations regarding Food Safety Alerts ba leng mo dikhanseleng ba kile ba fiwa leidentity card and Recall Procedures; as well as training on e e ka supang gore fa a tsena mo ofising o supa gore ke the Tolerance of Poisonous Noxious Seeds Health Inspector e wena o mo neetseng setlankana sa Intended for Human Consumption Training go supa jalo? A gompieno jaana o ka re raya wa re batho of Trainers workshop; ba o setse o ba neetse identity cards tse di supang gore indeed ba dira tiro eo on your own behalf? Thank you (f) February 2019: capacity building on Good Mr Speaker. Manufacturing Practices Guidelines, manufacturing license, and labelling MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. requirements checklist tools; Ke tsaya gore eo Mr Speaker ka bokhutshwane, daily (g) May 2018: capacity building on Food Safety management of those officers le establishment register Emergency, Preparedness and Response; lies with the Ministry of Local Government where they are attached. Ke bone ba letsatsi le letsatsi ba itseng (h) 2018: Training of Trainers’ capacity building gore Inspectors tse ba tshwanetse gore ba itshware on Food Safety and Hygiene Training Manual ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Rona re ka thusa fela ka to for Food Handlers/ Street Vendors. empower ka gore there are two Acts tse re di tshwereng ka kwano; ya Public Health le bo Food Hygiene tse ke (i) May 2017: capacity building for inspectors on neng ke bua ka tsone. conducting risk based food safety inspections in the food distribution system; MR REATILE: Further supplementary.

(j) 2017: capacity building on Water Safety MR SPEAKER: Naare Minister o araba eng? Planning (WSP) aimed at consistently MR LELATISITSWE: A re ke rona ba re ba neelang ensuring the safety of drinking water supply; Identity Documents (IDs). (k) July 2016: capacity building on Training MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa. Minister, a re a o ba neetse? of Trainers (ToT) on food hygiene to street vendors; MR LELATISITSWE: Nnyaa rra, ga ke a ba neela. Ke raya ba ka fiwa IDs tseo ke ba Ministry of Local (l) 2016: Capacity building on District Health Government, gone kwa ba leng teng. Information System (DHIS2), a public health information toolkit, with the objective of HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. facilitating aggregate reporting by health institutions at different levels for transparent MR SPEAKER: The last one Honourable Reatile.

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MR REATILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mathata a re (iii) the total number of equipment not functioning nang le one ke gore Act ya Public Health e laolwa ke at the hospital and when it will be serviced or Ministry of Health and ke yone e e supang gore motho replaced. yo e leng Health Inspector o ka mmona ka identity card e ba dikhansele ba senang nayo. Ga ba ka ke ba ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND e ntsha (issue). Motho yo o ka e ntshang fela ke the WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so one who administers it kwa Ministry of Health. Tona, much Mr Speaker. a wa re batho ba ba bereka ba sena natso? Ga ke bue ka (i) Palapye Primary Hospital was initially prioritised employment card, ka re the Health Inspector card. for major maintenance in 2018/2019. The project MR LELATISITSWE: I thank you so much Mr was not executed due to budgetary constraints. Speaker. I can follow up on that and then revert to the During the following year, the procurement Honourable Member. Thank you. process was initiated and a tender was evaluated from the 23rd November to the 4th December GENDER AFFAIRS EMPOWERMENT 2020. However, during the process of evaluation, PROGRAMME the committee realised that a price validity has expired. Therefore, on the 26th November 2020, MR J. L. THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): asked the letters were written to the bidders to revalidate Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs if she is aware that the Gender Affairs Empowerment their prices. Most of them, 75 out of 87 had Programme was not rolled out to applicants in 2020 responded ...(Inaudible)… of these responses, a pending the review of the guidelines; if so: district committee sits at the end of this month, March 2021 to finalise the award. Project is (i) what is the exact status of this review exercise; and expected to commence in the coming financial (ii) when the programme will be open for applicants. year Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Minister of Nationality, Immigration (ii) Currently the total number of health professionals and Gender Affairs. in Palapye Hospital and clinics is 285; 13 doctors, four pharmacists, 13 pharmacy technicians, four …Silence… dentists, two x-ray operators, 235 nurses, eight laboratory technicians, five laboratory scientists MR SPEAKER: Minister of Nationality, Immigration and one physiotherapist. There are only five and Gender Affairs. vacant positions that will be filled this coming …Silence… financial year;

MR SPEAKER: Who is acting? (a) Principal Medical Officer - 1

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O kae Vice President (b) Pharmacist - 1 (VP)? (c) Pharmacy Technician - 2 MR SPEAKER: …(Inaudible)… (d) Senior Nursing Officer - 1 PALAPYE HOSPITAL The rest of the positions as held by nine Medical MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister Officers who are on study leave, we expect three of Health and Wellness to apprise this Honourable of these doctors to resume duty this financial House on the Palapye Hospital stating the following: year while the remaining doctors will complete (i) the hospital maintenance tender details as was their studies within the next two to three years. promised; There are only two pieces of medical equipment that (ii) the total number of health professionals in Palapye are not functional in that facility, Palapye Hospital. and the timelines of filling the vacant posts of These consists of the diesel boiler and the chiller plant those health professionals at Palapye Hospital and for the major theatre. We accept that these are key clinics; and pieces of equipment in the hospital setting. They are …

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(Inaudible)… for repair during the 2021/2022 financial bararo, ba bo ba boa ba fetsa kwa sekoleng, ba ya go year. I thank you Mr Speaker and I thank you Honourable thiba diphatlha tsa bone kwa Palapye. Member. I guess we visited the hospital with you… Fa re tsaya lifespan ya machine Mr Speaker; machines MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr tse are serviced nako le nako fa di senyega kana ka Speaker. Ke a leboga Rre Lelatisitswe ka gore gone o nako e di e beetsweng. Fa e le gore di digetse lebaka kgona go ya kwa Palapye o bona gore mathata ke eng. la tsone, re a di tsaya re a di ntsha. Go a tle go diragale Mr Speaker, gore machines tse fa di ntse di le gone foo, Mr Speaker, ke botse Rre Lelatisitswe gore, a o nthaya ka letlhoko la madi, re a bo re nna re reconfigure gore a re dingaka tse di minus/plus 10 tse di saleng di ya kwa re tswelele re di dirisa, re di lebeletse ka fa di ntseng ka sekoleng, di tlaa nna fela di sa emisitswe (replaced), go teng. sa adimiwe batho gope? A go normal fela gore Puso e dire jalo, ba nna fela ba sa emisetswe ka gore gatwe ba Fa re tsena mo kgannyeng ya Khurumela le Extension santse ba le kwa sekoleng? 3 gore di dirwe 24 hours, ke tsaya gore ke keletso ya rona gore re nne le di 24 hours tse dintsi, mme fela mo Ya bobedi, Tona, tota lifespan ya machines tse di kwa nakong ya gompieno, ga ke ka ke ka ema fa ke bo ke re Palapye, kana plants tsone tse, ke ya lebaka le le kae ka go ka kgonagala, ka gore ke golo mo go tlhokang gore gore di nna di senyega kgapetsakgapetsa? Tota sentlentle re ye go lebelela le yone kgang ya staffing se re nang le motlotlegi, di tshwanetse gore di ka bo di tshedile leng sone gone kwa gore a mme go ka kgonagala. le gore di ka bo di emisetswa leng? Ya price validity ke yone e ke e amogelang gore go ntse Ya boraro, Tona, ka gore go na le mathata a dingaka, le tiego thata mo the tenders kana mo thekong ya gore baoki le bodiredi, a ga a sekaseke gore clinic ya re felele re bona sepatela sa Palapye se dirwa. Jaaka ke Khurumela le ya Extension 3, bogolo a di dire 24 hours bua, in this next financial year, re tlaabo re se baakanya gore di kgone go thusa batho? Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. Ya bofelo Mr Speaker, Honourable Lelatisitswe, ao INTERNAL INFRASTRUCTURE AT SHOSHONG mongwame! a ko o lebelele sentle, sepatela sa Palapye se ka bo se sa bolo to be maintained ka 2018/2019 financial MR A. LESASO (SHOSHONG): asked the Minister year, mme go tla go tsena gompieno, 2021/2022 se ise of Local Government and Rural Development: se baakanngwe, a tota la re golo mo go siame? A e kare (i) if he is aware that Shoshong Village remains the price fela le e bona gore it is about to expire, a bo le biggest village in the Central District without tswelela fela le validate le dira, go tswa fa kwa morago, developed internal Infrastructure (roads, storm le bo le re nnyaa, jaanong tlang gape ka prices? Ke eng water drainage, street lighting); e ne e sa re nako e go neng go simololwa, go bo gotwe kana price e we cannot evaluate ka gore it is about to (ii) if he is aware that internal infrastructure gives a expire? Golo moo go bakilwe ke eng rraetsho? Ke a village a true facelift to attract investors and hence leboga Honourable Speaker. job opportunities for the rural communities;

MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr (iii) if he is aware of the failure to attract investors due Speaker. Santlha re amogele gore go ntse le tiego thata to poor infrastructure; mo paakanyong ya sepatela sa Palapye. E bile gape re (iv) why Shoshong was left out when Mahalapye, amogele gore go ntse le phoso e tona gore batho ba le Serowe, Palapye, Tonota, Bobonong, Tutume, nine mo sepateleng se le sengwefela, ba bo ba isitswe Letlhakane, Maunatlala, Mmadinare and Sefhare sekoleng botlhe. Golo moo ke phosego e tona, le fa ke were developed; le kwa Palapye ke buile jalo. (v) what criterion was used to qualify those villages Mr Speaker jaaka re itse, kana batho fa ba isitswe for internal infrastructure development which did sekoleng, ba ile go dira tsone courses tse di khutshwane, not qualify Shoshong Village; and ba a bo ba tshwere positions tsa ministry, tiro e a bo e sa fela. Jaanong ke gone mo o fitlhelang go le thata (vi) if he is aware that Shoshong remains prone gore gongwe ba ka emisediwa. Ke sone se re lebogang to natural disasters due to lack of stormwater gore mme mo ngwageng ono, re solofetse gore ba le drainage.

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ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL (vi) Mr Speaker, I am aware that Shoshong remains GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT prone to flood disasters during rainy seasons (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke because there is no properly engineered storm leboge Honourable Lesaso for the question. water infrastructure in the village. However, it is regrettable that there are no plans to develop (i) Mr Speaker, I am aware that Shoshong is one of infrastructure and storm water drainage due to the biggest villages in Central District without budgetary constraints. Be there as it may, I have developed village infrastructure. This is mainly sent a team to assess the extent of the problem attributed to the budgetary constraints that have caused by the recent rains with a view to attending, been prevailing countrywide over the years. in the interim, to areas which exacerbate the flooding. (ii/iii) Mr Speaker, the role of developed internal infrastructure together with other socio-economic In the meantime, my ministry through the Central and demographic factors in attracting investors District Council from time to time de-silts the existing cannot be over-emphasised. I therefore agree drains to facilitate water flow. I thank you Mr Speaker. that provision of internal infrastructure gives HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Supplementary. villages a facelift and position them as alternative investment locations for job creation and growing MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we have run of local economies. out of time. We have to go on to the Budget. Honourable Segokgo, you are quite safe. Honourable Majaga was (iv) The internal infrastructure was provided in the not available to ask the question. So, you are in no villages of Mahalapye, Serowe, Palapye, Tonota, breach. Bobonong, Tutume and Letlhakane because they MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND are sub-district headquarters. COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank The next villages to be provided with similar you Mr Speaker. In fact, I had to …(Inaudible)… that infrastructure in future as prioritised by Central meeting. Thank you sir. District Council will be the established service centres of Nata, Mmadinare, Rakops, Lerala, ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE Sefhare and Shoshong villages, resources (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) permitting. (v) Mr Speaker, infrastructure development in APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, Botswana is guided by the Revised National 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) Settlement Policy (RNSP 2004). The policy ORGANISATION 2000 - MINISTRY outlines the following criteria in hierarchical order OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL for ranking of settlements and ultimately provision RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND of infrastructure development: TOURISM • Economic potential and employment generation (Resumed Debate) • The availability of natural resources, especially MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): Order! water to sustain it Honourable Members. When the House adjourned yesterday, the Honourable Minister of Environment, • Population size Natural Resources Conservation and Tourism was still on the floor replying to the debate and she was left with • Availability of infrastructure and services or ease 20 minutes. with which they can be provided MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL • The role of a settlement as a service centre or its RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM potential as a service provider to its hinterland. (MS KERENG): I thank you Mr Chairperson. In the Mr Speaker, let me hasten to emphasise that our last 20 minutes that I have, I just wish to conclude my development planning process follows a bottom response to the debate from yesterday. Most of them up approach where communities determine their were just suggestions and appreciation of the efforts that priorities. were reported.

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In terms of tourism revival, diversification and growth, batho kana la abelwa ditlhabololo. Thulaganyo ya land I will just group them in terms of thematic areas, so restoration e re e tshwaraganetseng le ba Food and that I do not have to go to each one that contributed. Agriculture Organisation ke yone e e tsileng go re thusa There is need for required infrastructure to facilitate the go batlisisa gore lefatshe le senyegile fa kae, le sentswe growth of tourism, as we diversify and enable ease of ke eng le gore gore re le buseletse re ka dira jang. Re movement and access to tourism sites, transport, energy, lebile gore gone foo, go tlaa bulela bagaetsho Batswana immigration, land and so forth. kwa gae ditshono tsa gore ba itlhokomelele lefatshe la bone ba le busetse mo tirisong, e bile gape ba le dise, ba Local tourism drive; Rre Majaga o ne a bua gore, we kgone to report. Lenaneo le le tlaa re thusa ka tsela e e have to be able to make tourism sites accessible to ntseng jalo, le thusana le la Drought Management Plan. Batswana in terms of affordable packages. That will be considered under the Tourism Master Plan that is Digitisation; fa re bua ka tiriso ya maranyane e gompieno currently being developed. tota COVID-19 e patikang gore re e dirise, re ne re amogela policy jaaka ke ne ke bua ya Tourism Licensing Honourable Moagi; you talked about many potential Information Systems le digitisation of museums. Ke activities that can be done kwa Ramotswa and sites supe gore le jaaka re ntse re lwa le COVID-19, go tse di leng teng; bo Mogobane Dam le Lentswe la raya gore bokopano bo simolole go diragala ka virtual Baratani tse ke dumalanang le wena gore mongwame conferencing, jaaka re bona re setse re simolotse, le kwa a re kubakube o ye go di bona, mobilise communities lephateng re simolotse ka go nna re neelana reports ka o bone gore go ka tswa dikgwebo tse di ntseng jang, re tsela e e ntseng jalo. Ke akgole Palamente e re bonang tlaa di tshwaraganela re bona gore re di tsosa ka tsela e e le mo maranyaneng, ka tsela e e kgethegileng e bile e ntseng jang. e ka akgolwa. Go tlaa tlhokafala gore digitisation re e Ka campsites le gone re amogetse thotloetso ya gore a di dirise thata go ka tswelela re lomagana re le setšhaba, re nne di tswe, di tswele Batswana. Ke supe gore Batswana le balogaditogamaano tsa ditlhabololo go isa mananeo go botlhokwa go ipapana, fa gotwe le bulelwa ditshono kwa bathong le dikitso go dira dipatlisiso, le gone go mo bojanaleng. Re itse gore le tlhoka go itse eng, le phutha dikitso tse di farologaneng ka ditso tsa rona le tlhoka go dira eng se se ka re thusang gore re gaisane mafelo a a farologaneng a a ka re tlisetsang bojanala. le ba gompieno e leng bone ba ba tshotseng dikgwebo Waste management; ke supile gore Waste Management tseo. Policy le molao wa tlhokomelo kgotlelesego ya tikologo Honourable Kablay; o ne wa bua ka pans tse di kwa di tlaa re thusa go laola go latlhiwa ga matlakala Sojwe, Shadishadi le Lephephe. Le nna ke di bone gore gongwe le gongwe, go sa tlhokomeleng tikologo ka le na le tsone. Re tlaa boa re tlaa go kopana jaaka re tsela e e ntseng jalo. Rre Healy, o ne o bua gore nnyaa, setse re dumalane gore re tlaa tla re di dira. Cultural fa re re dilo tse di borai tsa transformers, tse di setseng villages le tsone di na le tshono e ntsi, tota fa go ne go di dirisitswe kana fa re di busetsa kwa mafatsheng a ya ka nna ke ka bo ke re culture nngwe le nngwe e e mangwe, go raya gore go tsile go nna le bothata jwa teng mo Botswana, e nne le cultural villages gore di go latlhegelwa ke tshono ya itsholelo gone foo. Ke re, kgone gore di phuthe ditso, re kgone go rekisa ka tsela kana go na le e nngwe gape ya mahura a a dirisitsweng, e e ntseng jalo. a le one a busediwa kwa South Africa, ka gore ga re ise re kgone gore re a tlhotlhe re tle re ntshe energy mo Rre Kapinga o supile gore tota fa re tsosolosa bojanala teng. Ke tlaa tshwaragana le Rre Moagi, re bone gore re gakologelwe gore ka kwa Okavango batho bale ba tota re ka dira jang gore waste energy e kgone go tswa rata tikologo, ba rata diphologolo tota, ke sone se ba mo matlakaleng, kana dithoto tse di ntseng jalo tse di se itseng, se ba ka tsenyang letseno ka sone. Ke supe latlhilweng. gore rra, e tlaa re fa re ntse re sekaseka re dira policy le master plans re bo re ntse re lebeletse gore go ya Ya air quality monitoring, o ne o supa gore a reports kwa pele ga COVID-19, ditshono tse di ntseng jalo di tsa teng di tswe, e nne tsone di supang gore fa gotwe bulegele batho ba Okavango. re ya go kgethisa dikoloi tse di dirisitsweng, mme gone Go na le tsa climate change Modulasetilo; go senyega reports tsone di supa gore kgotelesego mo loaping, ga lefatshe ka ntlha ya merwalela, go epiwa ga metlhaba dikoloi tse di senya go le kana ka eng. Ke lemogile ka le mebu, go felela lefatshe le sa lekane go ka abelwa bo ka amogela kgakololo eo.

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E nngwe e kgolo thata e batlotlegi botlhe ke tsayang MS KERENG: Granted. gore ba buile ka yone ka tshwenyego, ke ya go tshwenya ga diphologolo, ditlou bogolo jang. Ke tlaa e soboka DR TSHABANG: Thank you Chairperson, thank you fela ka bokhutshwane ke re, Elephant Management Honourable Minister. Ga ke a utlwa ka fa o wetseng ka Plan, le National Elephant Action Plan tse ke neng ke teng mo kgannyeng ya compensation guidelines, gore supa gore di setse di dirilwe, mme ga di ise di wele. re ya go di bona leng, di tlaa fela leng. Ke gone fa ke Ke amogele rra go tswa kwa go Honourable Tshabang batlang clarificationteng. gore, ke lemoga gore tiego e nnile teng. Ke ne ke rile ka MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Thiite also wants December go tlaabo go na le draft, draft e ne ya dirwa clarification. ka December e ke neng ka e lebelela, ka e busetsa kwa lephateng gore le ye go baakanya. Go raya gore go na le MR THIITE: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Honourable tiego gone foo rra, re tlaa e fefosa. Minister, o ntse o bua ka phane le gore gongwe batho fa ba kgotlhagana go ka anamisa bolwetse. Ke Honourable Leader of the House, o ne wa bua ka botse gore, ka re mo seemong re le Puso se re buang diterata tse re di agang go kganela metsamao ya ka transformation le go dirisa maranyane, a ga go diphologolo. O re maintenance wa tsone o tshwanetse o kgonagale gore mo nakong e e tlang le kgone go letlelela dirwe, di tlhokomelwe gore e se ka ya re kamoso re bo batho ba phane ba ye phaneng, le dirise drones to set up re agile terata, mme e bo e senyega jaaka go diragetse coordinates, and allocate coordinates individually, then kwa Mathathane le kwa Boteti. Re bone gore re dire monitor them through drones kwa godimo. Ba kgone go thulaganyo ya gore, diterata fa di agiwa go bo go na tswelela ba ya phaneng, ka gore re a itse gore it has a le thulaganyo ya maintenance e e tlhwaafetseng. Ya lot of economic benefits and contributes to food security. Mathathane e ke neng ke ile go e tlhoma semmuso Thank you Minister. tshimolodiso ya yone, e na le maintenance plan o o utlwalang. Ke solofetsa gore Elephant Management MS KERENG: Ke a leboga. Mma ke simolole ka ya Plan le Action Plan e tlaa re ngwaga o o tlang o simologa gago Rre Thiite. Go dirisiwa ga drones go leka go bona ka April, re bo re setse re e feditse gore e ka tswela kwa gore batho ba kgobokane ba le fa kae, go tsamaya jang, ntle. mosuke o ntse jang, ke tsaya gore ke kakanyo e e ka lebelelwang. Ga ke itse gore a drone e ka kgona go Le buile ka phane batlotlegi, mme tota ke ne ke bua supa phane mo letlhareng, mme ke dilo tse fa o bua ka gore phane ga re na bothata jo bo kalokalo. Molao o re technology re ka tlang ra di lebelela. Kana gompieno go setseng re simolotse go o dira o gotweng Forestry and setse go ntse go dirwa assessments, pele ga re dumalana Range Resources Bill, o tsile go re thusa gore re laole gore re tlaa ntsha permits di le kae mo lefelong la gore, go tsamaisiwa ga phane, dikgwebo tse di dirwang ka tsa batho ba ba yang go bapala phane, re a bo re lebile go bapala phane, go bapatsa phane le go dira dilo tse gore phane e kana ka eng ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Ke di farologaneng tse di ka rekiwang, tse go dirisiwang e tseye e le kgakololo rra, jaaka re bua ka go dirisa phane, value chains tse di ka dirwang. Le supile gore maranyane. re tshwanetse gore lephata la rona le tokafatse ka fa re Honourable Tshabang, e bile ke ne ke lebetse sengwe se laolang mesepele ka teng le kgobokano ya batho fa go se botlhokwa, kana le buile batlotlegi la bo la gatelela ilwe phaneng, bogolo jang ka dinako tsa COVID-19. kgang ya gore tota response rate e santse e le kwa Re ntse re etse tlhoko selo se, re lemogile gore go tlase fa batho ba tshwentswe ke diphologolo ba ikuela. botlhokwa gore re tle re tokafatse gore batho fa ba Ke supe gore re leka ka bojotlhe go tokafatsa ka fa re kgobokane ba ya phaneng ba ka itshireletsa jang, ba fefogang ka teng go tla go le thusa, re lebeletse gore fa sireletsana kgatlhanong le mogare wa COVID-19. go tlhaela kwa kgaolong e nngwe, re kgona go tsaya Mo tshomarelong tikologo ka bophara rra, ke setse ke badiredi kwa kgaolong e nngwe le dikoloi ba ya go buile ka Land Degradation and Restoration Project e re thusa. Re dirile lenaneo gape le re tlaabong re dirisa tlaa e tshwaraganelang le ba lephata la ga Honourable batho ba mo gae gore ba re direle assessments, go kgone Moagi, gore batho ba ba epang dikhuti, ba senya lefatshe gore yo o nang le koloi a le gaufi, o ka re tabogela a dira ba tle ba… assessment nako e ise e tšhae, re tle re kgone go duela batho compensation. Re ntse re na le helicopters tse di MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Dr Tshabang is ntseng di ile dipaakanyong, tse ke ka begang gore di asking for clarification. setse di le teng. Tse dingwe di santse di baakanngwa di

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tlaa nna teng, go tlaa fefosa le ka fa re tsibogang ka teng ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, go ntsha diphologolo mo gare ga lona. TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): Clarification. Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Honourable Compensation guidelines rra di santse di feleletswa, ke Minister, ke bona o kare o tlaa fetsa o sa feta ka kgang e tlaa solofetsa gore e tlaare ngwaga o o tlang o simologa e ntshwenyang e ke e boditseng maabane. Gore ra reng le tsone di bo di le ready. Tota le tsone ke dilo tse ke re le lefatshe la Botswana ka gore re ne re tshwenyegile neng ke setse ke kile ka di lebelela, di bo di boela kwa le mafatshe a Southern Africa ka Convention on lephateng to be finalised. Re ka tla ra di solofela ka nako International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) e e ntseng jalo. ka gore re tlaabo re tseelwa ditshwetso ke mafatshe a HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... a senang ditlou, fa re batla go fokotsa ditlou tsa rona. Rre Mokaila o ne a dule a supa gore re ka nna ra felela MS KERENG: Ke bua ngwaga o o tlang wa madi rra. re tsere tshwetso ya gore re tswe gone koo, ra reng MR CHAIRPERSON: Ngwaga o o tlang wa madi. gompieno?

MS KERENG: Ga o itse gore ke wa madi? Kwa MS KERENG: Kgang ya CITES rra, kana CITES ke bofelong ke batla go wela ka e ke tlaa e bitsang fela ke re yone e laolang thekiso ya dinaka, ya matlotlo a rona a re ke enabling environment, go leka go thusa gore ditirelo a tshwereng mo nakong ya gompieno including dinaka tsa rona tsa lephata tota di nne tsa manontlhotlho, tse di tsa ditshukudu le ditlou. Gompieno jaana CITES ga e bofefo, e le tsa boleng gape di kgona go kgotsofalelwa. letlelele gore go ka nna le international trade ka tsone. Honourable Kapinga, o kopile gore re lebelele Lephata Kana mme nako le nako jaaka CITES conventions la Wildlife and National Parks, bana bale fa ba sokola re tsa teng di tsena every two years, go nna go ntse go ba thuse. O rile re ba kgonise, mme ke supe gore golo buiwa. Mafatshe a leka go bua gore, rona kana re na le moo le rona go a re tshwenya e bile re a go tsibogela; stockpiles tsa dinaka tsa ditshukudu, re letleleleng go selo sa ntlha ke boroko le tsone dikoloi. Dikoloi re setse rekisa mme go ntse go pala. Tota rona se re bonang gore re simolotse lenaneo la gore re reke dikoloi re emisetse se tshwanetse go diragala ke gone gore, re le mafatshe tse dintsi tse di senyegileng tse re ntseng re sa thusege a a tshwanang ka Matshwenyego, re kopanele go nna le ka ntlha ya tsone. Dikoloi di a rekwa, e bile gape re lentswe le le lengwefela le le tiileng le nonofile, le e leng tsere tshwetso ya gore mo mading a dithuso a Kavango- gore ka lone re ka gona gore kwa CITES re ye go bua re Zambezi Transfrontier Conservation Area (KAZA) a ikemetse. Re bo re ka kgona go supegetsa CITES gore a neng a tswa kwa Germany re ye go baakanya bonno re ka tsaya tshwetso e e ntseng jang e e ka ba gatelelang. le diofisi tsa ba rona ba wildlife kwa Seronga. Ke CITES e e latelang ke ngwaga o o tlang rra, ke dumela thulaganyo e e leng gore e tlaa re thusa. gore go tlaa nna le gone go ka ikgobokanya. Se sengwe gape e ne e le gore re lebelele gore SADC le AU di ka E bile gape o ne a supa gore kgang e e utlwalang gore go re thusa ka tsela e e ntseng jang go ka re tlhatswetsa tlaa nna le mine mongwe kwa Okavango, re tlhomamise dilo tse. gore re sireletsa matlotlo a rona a tlholego; bo Tsodilo ka kwa le bo Okavango Delta. Ke re rra ke dikgang Mma ke wetse, ga ke na nako Honourable Kekgonegile. tse di tshwereng sentle, the Environmental Impact Ke supe gore Honourable Leader of the House o ne a bua Assessment (EIA) ya golo koo ga e ise e dirwe. Ke tsone ka gore tshwaraganang le le maphata. O tlaa paledisiwa dilo tse di tlaa tlang di supa gore a dilo di diragala sentle. ke gone gore gongwe policy nngwe ya lephata lengwe Modulasetilo, go na le kgang e Honourable Healy a e e saletse kwa morago…(Interruptions)… jaanong re ntshitseng ya gore mo board ya National Environmental tlaa… Fund re tlhomamise gore tota boards tse di tsamaisiwa ke batho ba ba nang le bokgoni. Kana re e tsere fela nako HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... e Rre Matsheka a neng a bua gore boards, State-Owned MS KERENG: Ga e bereke jalo. Re tlaa iteka re bona Enterprises (SOEs), governance across Government e gore re a tshwaragana. Tota se se tona ke ne ke bona tshwanetse gore e tokafale re tle re tsamaise. Ke dilo tse gore mo dikgannyeng tsa tikologo, nna le Rre Moagi re di lebeletseng rra… re tlaa bona gore re tshwaraganele le tsone dikgang tse MR CHAIRPERSON: You have two requests tsa...(Interruptions)… mebu, go senya tikologo ka tsela Honourable Minister, for clarification; Honourable e e ntseng jalo. Le tsone tsa bo renewable energy jaaka Molebatsi and Honourable Kekgonegile. o ne o bua Leader of the House.

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Leader of the House o supile gore trusts di tshwanetse bone ka teng. Ke tsaya gore le fa ba hira ba a bo ba go thusiwa gore di se ka tsa phutlhamisiwa ke gore go tlhaloganya le bone bahiriwa ba bone gore le ya go ne go omanwa kana go lwelwa maemo, kana go nna le nna ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ga ke gane rra, gongwe dikgotlhang tse di rileng, ga reng ga botsamaisi jwa trust maphata a a lebaneng re ka kopana le bone fa e le gore gongwe le Bogosi, le morafe, le investor ka tsela e e go na le mathata a bonno jo bo sa siamang re tle re bone ntseng jalo. Ke re rra re lebeletse lenaneo la Community- gore conditions tsa babereki di nna jang. Ke tsaya gore Based Natural Resources Management (CBNRM) gore ke dilo tse ke sa tlhokeng to commit myself mo go tsone, ye go le tokafatsa gore dilo tse di se ka tsa nna teng. di batla gore re ka di lebelela re di tshwaraganele le ba Mo nakong ya gompieno re setse re simolotse lenaneo bangwe. le re sekasekang bokgoni jwa these trusts; go simolola fela ka go tshwara madi, go dira mananeo, go tsamaisa Modulasetilo, ke kopa go wetsa, ke leboge boeteledipele, kgwebo, go peka batho in the boards le go tsamaisa Mapalamente otlhe, badiri ka nna mo maitekong a a partnerships. Go tlile go re thusa go bona gore jaaka re kanakana go leka go phunyeletsa mo ditlhabololong batla go dira capacity building, re ba age re ba nonotshe, mo COVID-19 e re dirileng jaana. Thotloetso ya lona re bo re itse gore mme gone tota gatwe go tlhaela fa kae. mo ditirelong tsa lephata la me, ke a e lebogela. Mo Le lona le re thuse baeteledipele ka nna gore batho ba letsatsing la gompieno le le botlhokwa la matsalo a re thuse go lomaganya kwa dikgaolong gore dilo di tle me, ke rata gore ke le eleletse masego le matlhogonolo di tsamae sentle. ba rotlhe le Batswana ka kakaretso. Ke gopole ba ba latlhegetsweng ka ntlha ya diphologolo, ke matshelo le A bua gape Honourable Leader of the House ka kgang baratiwa ba bone. Le ba ba sa tsogang ka ntlha ya COVID ya gore re dire gore go nne motlhofo gore madi a dithuso ba latlhegetswe, ke re Modimo ke yoo bagaetsho. a a leng teng bo Green Climate Fund, a se ka a nna dingalo gore batho ba a bone, ba ba dirang tsa tshomarelo Modulasetilo, I therefore move that the sum of Eight tikologo. Ke re one a re a tshwereng a a mo lephateng Hundred and Forty-Eight Million, and Twenty Thousand, a bone bo National Environmental Fund, bo Tourism Six Hundred and Ten Pula (P848,020,610) under the Industry Development Fund, re setse re dumalane e bile Recurrent Budget for Head 2000 be approved and stand re dirile plan ya gore re tlaa tla re a sekaseka gore a nne part of the Schedule of Appropriation (2021/2022) motlhofo. Go tlhofofalele Batswana kwa gae gore ba Bill, 2021 (No. 1 of 2021); and that the sum of Three kgone go ka a dirisa, ba kgone go bona dithuso ka one. Hundred and Thirty-Nine Million, One Hundred and Go se ka ga nna thata gore fa Rre Kablay a tla a re trust Fifty Thousand Pula (P339,150,000) for Head 2000 in ke e e ready e bo e le gore jaanong go ya go tswalelwa the Development Fund Estimates be approved and stand ke go leka go bona madi ka tsela e e rileng. Honourable part of those estimates. I thank you Mr Chairperson. Kekgonegile wants to clarify, ke ka mo fa chance. MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Honourable MR KEKGONEGILE: Clarification. Tanki Minister, Minister. Honourable Members, we are going to vote, tanki Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke re gongwe Honourable so go for your gadgets and get ready. Honourable Minister can clarify fela gore naare babereki ba ba Motsamai, if you can chat with the Clerks-at-the-Table tourism camps thatathata kwa go rona kwa delta, ka regarding your question. We are now going to vote. bonno jwa bone go lebega bo sa nna sentle, within MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Chairperson... tsamaiso ya bone le policy, a go na le maikaelelo ape a gore go tliwe ka tsamaiso e e tsepameng gore fa o re o MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai, I agetse mmereki boroko bo bo bo le mo seemong se se will let you…(Inaudible)… so that you answer... … ntseng jang. Re lebile seemo se se leng teng gompieno (Inaudible)… you are now …(Inaudible)… That is go leka go tokafatsa. Tanki Mr Speaker, tanki Tona. okay.

MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo. MR MOTSAMAI: Ee rra. Ke ne ke lebile bonno jwa babereki ba rona ba maphata a rona jaaka ba ba re tlhokomelelang diphologolo ka MR CHAIRPERSON: Ee rra, go siame. We are now kwa. Kana ba ba dirang kgwebo ba le kwa dikampeng voting Honourable Members. tsone tseo ba a bo ba tla ka ditsamaiso tsa bone le dithulaganyo tsa gore re ya go agela babereki dikago tse di ntseng jang, go ya ka fa ba agileng kgwebo ya

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CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko √ Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow √ Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama √ Honourable Kablay √ Honourable Kapinga Honourable Kekgonegile √ Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo √ Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu

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Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Pule √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando √ Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere His Honour The Vice President Tsogwane √

…Silence…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Honourable Members. The results of your voting, the Ayes - 43, no opposition, Absent - 21. The Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to. ORGANISATION 1100 - MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, 2 hours 35 minutes have been allocated to this organisation and I will call upon the Minister to reply to the debate at 1715 hours today and the question will be put at 1745 hours. I will then call upon the Minister of Health and Wellness to present his budget.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR DIKOLOTI): Ke go leboge Mr Chairperson. Ke simolole Mr Chairperson, dinomoro di kwalegile sentle ke P431,350,000. Ke bua ka paakanyo e e mo page 47, paragraph 123. Le paakanyo ya teng gape e mo page 50, paragraph 130. Thank you Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister. What are those paragraphs?

DR DIKOLOTI: Paragraph 123.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Ya speech sa gago?

DR DIKOLOTI: Yes, in my speech, paragraph 123 e kwadilwe ka dinomore sentle, P431,350,000, but ka mafoko go na le phosego, go boeleditswe 300, jaanong ke kopa paakanyo. The same thing goes for page 50. Thank you Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: …(Inaudible)…

DR DIKOLOTI: Mr Chairperson, it is my pleasure and honour to present my ministry’s budget estimates for the 2021/2022 financial year for consideration and approval by this Honourable Committee.

Mr Chairperson, my presentation, particularly regarding budget line items, is aligned to address national priorities. Specifically, it is aimed at ensuring more efficient Government spending and financing, building human capital, promoting the provision of appropriate infrastructure; as well as building resilience.

The successful execution of my ministry’s budget activities, in the midst of fighting the COVID-19 pandemic remains a primary Government objective in respect to the successful delivery of quality universal health care services. This

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is in order to ultimately attain “Health for All by 2036” based on decentralising many functions to a district as per the Revised National Health Policy (2011). level. As such, the restructuring exercise has focused on strengthening the leadership, coordination and service Mr Chairperson, in presenting my ministry’s budget delivery of healthcare services at district level. proposal, I am aware that as individuals, Members of Parliament, employees within the ministry and In the last nine months, a lot has been done, and will communities that expect service, we are all waiting to continue to be done to strengthen our service-delivery hear what would be of improvement or benefit to us. across all regions. In the above respect, and effective In this respect, I wish to assure all stakeholders that August 2019, 14 Regional Coordinators, at Director this budget seeks to assure optimised nationwide and level, were appointed out of the required 18. My public wide delivery while accounting for individual ministry has requested to have the complement of 18 community or personal level interests. filled up soonest. I have no reason to believe that we would be unsuccessful in that plea. So we are planning I am aware Mr Chairperson, that it might not be easy for for financial year 2021/2022 with that expectation. all to immediately appreciate that achieving what I have just outlined is a process, that may not seem by some Furthermore, Mr Chairperson, and in response to to move rapidly enough, but again let me assure all that COVID-19, a total of 11 Public Health Specialists have we will do our best to effect the necessary change and been attached to the districts; in order to guide and do it quickly without missing any important facts. The support response efforts to the fight against COVID-19, first of such steps is to accept that certain things for a and other public health considerations. We are going while have not gone as well as may have been planned. to optimise what we have but we are looking for an In this respect Mr Chairperson, we are going to reflect improved status as the calendar year progresses. on what requires improvement and then indicate how we propose to do it, as well as why. In this respect, I Moreover, as part of the restructuring exercise and implore all Honourable Members to appreciate the role health services strengthening, the establishment of of the Integrated Community Health Strategy which my the Botswana Public Health Institute (BPHI) has ministry has shared with all Parliamentarians and many been approved by Cabinet. Its operational structure is other stakeholders since November 2020. being put in place and expected to be functional by the beginning of 2021/2022 financial year. This budget proposal Mr Chairperson, is informed by the Ministry of Health and Wellness’ Strategy (2017-2023) This institute, will out of functional necessity, have an and is consistent with the commitment made towards arm that deals with national emergencies that have an achieving targets set under Sustainable Development impact on human health. The scope of the BPHI will Goal 3; which is to “ensure healthy lives and promote encompass the performance of the National Health well-being for all at all ages”. Laboratory (NHL), which works in partnership with all laboratories across the country… Mr Chairperson, the background which I have just given tells you that my ministry is in a transformational journey …Silence… and that the 2021/2022 financial budget presentation is DR DIKOLOTI:…(Inaudible)…we have infused the first step to that journey, which main objective is certain legislative reviews, I will touch on a few. There summarised by Sustainable Development Goal 3. Have is the National Health Policy review Mr Chairperson… that at the back of your minds as I discuss my ministry’s (Inaudible)… proposal. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, there is a ORGANISATIONAL TRANSFORMATION AND problem down there. POLICY REVIEWS DR DIKOLOTI: …(Inaudible)… Public Reforms and Organisational Transformation MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, it might Mr Chairperson, my ministry continues to operationalise be better if you switch off your video. Try to switch off the new functional structure that is aimed at ensuring a your video. more strategic and efficient response to the health needs of the nation. Our strategic outlook, or deployment is DR DIKOLOTI: Thank you Mr Chairperson.

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Continue please. In addition and most importantly, my ministry’s envisaged paradigm shift towards primary, preventative DR DIKOLOTI: …(Inaudible)… to be better prepared and in order to correct… (Inaudible)… and community oriented-health care provision, will be pursued with fervour. The review is being supported by …Silence… the World Health Organisation (WHO), and will entail extensive stakeholder consultation and participation. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ntse o a kgaoga Mr Chairperson. NATIONAL HEALTH RESEARCH BILL DR DIKOLOTI: …(Inaudible)… to embark on… The National Health Research Bill has undergone all MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister! the necessary steps and is expected to be presented to Parliament during the Winter Session. The Bill is DR DIKOLOTI: Ke a utlwala? Hello! intended to establish the Health Research Council, MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, come to which will provide regulatory oversight over all health the Committee Room. and health related research in Botswana. It will further enable the conducting of ethical, scientific and lawful DR DIKOLOTI: Ee, let me come over there Mr research for the protection of the welfare, wellbeing and Chairperson. safety of human participants as per the Revised National HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, dira Health Policy of 2011. lenaneo la gore all those presenting should come to the Committee Room. HEALTH QUALITY BILL

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee! Mr Chairperson, the Health Quality Bill of 2020 which, amongst others, seeks to establish a semi-autonomous HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… institution that will regulate all health facilities, is at its final stage and ready for discussion and approval by …Silence… this Parliament. Through this initiative, it is aimed that MR CHAIRPERSON: As soon as you are ready all health facilities (private and public) will be licensed Minister, you can start. Honourable Members, the and inspected against set standards by this institution. Minister is starting. Continue Honourable Minister. This is in order to allow a streamlined and traceable enforcement of quality health services in the country. DR DIKOLOTI: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, in order to enhance timely and enhanced III. DIGITALISATION AND E-HEALTH delivery, as will be supported by institutions such as STRATEGY Botswana Public Health Institute (BPHI), it will be Mr Chairperson, in this knowledge economy and necessary that we infuse certain legislative reviews. I in seeking to optimise access to care by being cost will touch on a few. effective, we cannot make meaningful progress without NATIONAL HEALTH POLICY REVIEW leveraging on digitalisation. The race to pursue the Fourth Industrial Revolution (4IR) drive has already Mr Chairperson, the planned review of the Revised started, and the health sector has successfully reviewed National Health Policy of 2011, which was scheduled and launched the e-Health Strategy (2020-2024) in to effect during the 2020/2021 financial year did not March 2020. This strategy has the potential to improve take place due to the advent of COVID-19. To be access to health care; better patient outcomes and better prepared and in order to correct, the intention therefore customer satisfaction. Additionally, access to is to embark on and complete the exercise during the health information as well as monitoring and evaluation, 2021/2022 financial year. This review process offers to mention but a few, should improve. us an opportunity to reflect on, and to integrate other important commitments such as Universal Health Mr Chairperson, related to the e-Health Strategy, I am Coverage (UHC), Sustainable Development Goals happy to report that the development of a home grown (SDGs), Emergency Preparedness, changes of disease centralised Electronic Medical Record (EMR) system patterns as well as the aspirations of the National Vision is in progress. The EMR system will provide real-time 2036. access to health services using a unique identifier for

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patients, such as the Omang number to interface with Still on diseases Mr Chairperson, the implementation of the entire health facilities countrywide. the national multi-sectoral strategy for the prevention and control of Non-Communicable Disease (NCDs) of IV. PROGRAMMES AND STRATEGIES 2018-2023 is ongoing. So far, there has been notable Mr Chairperson, Botswana has recognised Primary achievement including the development of staff training Health Care (PHC) as a cornerstone to attaining UHC on cancer care primary guidelines, and improved public as well as achieving targets set under the SDGs. awareness on NCDs. Consequently, my ministry has taken a decision and Sexual and Reproductive Health (SRH) made a commitment to strategically pursue a paradigm shift from curative to preventive care. In other words, my Mr Chairperson, maternal mortality remains high in ministry has opted to return to promoting and providing Botswana. It however, shows a downward trend, with prevention health care services as the most potent and fluctuations and picks noted after every other year. cost-effective way of delivering public health services The main challenges to achieving and maintaining a to Batswana in a sustainable manner. consistent reduction, are pyscho-social, cultural and Mr Chairperson, my ministry has therefore resolved religious factors. To this end, my ministry has developed to strengthen primary health care systems, by placing and launched an Integrated Community Based Strategy communities at the centre of health care. This will also to address these challenges. include encouraging participation by communities, Gender Based Violence (SGBV) in the design and delivery of interventions specific to the health needs of the population, including the most vulnerable. The Integrated Community-Based Health Mr Chaiperson, the advent of COVID-19 pandemic Services Guidelines, which we launched in November has seen a rise in the Sexual and Gender Based 2020, and have been promoting through various Violence (SGBV) cases. My ministry, in collaboration platforms is important in facilitating the attainment of with various stakeholders continues to implement the related strategic direction. interventions to curb the high incidence of SGBV in Botswana. My ministry is working to strengthen Male Other major interventions that will be pursued in the Involvement in Sexual and Reproductive Health (SRH) PHC re-vitalisation process include harmonising, in order to improve the health and welfare of children, resuscitating and strengthening of the existing women and men. community structures. This will entail strengthening the monitoring and evaluation, and quality improvement Emergency Medical Service (EMS) strategies at all levels of care, in order to aid the achievement of excellence in programmes and policy Mr Chairperson, fatalities related to motor vehicle implementation. Mr Chairperson, all these systems are accidents remain high due to the limited coverage of aimed at combating diseases and promoting health as emergency medical services across the country. This a key social good. Let me touch on a number of the is partly attributable to limited availability of EMS. diseases. The service is available at only nine health districts, TUBERCULOSIS which are mainly along the A1 Highway and selected major towns and villages. In line with the 72nd World Mr Chairperson, in the quest to improve diagnosis Health Assembly Resolution that calls for improvement and treatment of Tuberculosis (TB), my ministry has in emergency care services, my ministry will finalize introduced a new test that is able to quickly diagnose the national EMS policy and begin its implementation TB in very sick clients who are severely immune during the coming financial year. Amongst key projects compromised. In addition Mr Chairperson, we have will be the establishment of a national EMS call centre, introduced new child friendly formulations for the treatment of both drug susceptible and drug resistant additional EMS bases in strategic locations, and TB. increasing fleet.

MALARIA Supply Chain Management

Malaria elimination still remains a commitment of Mr Chairperson, as in the previous years, my ministry the Botswana Government, and a key activity of the experienced lower availability for some essential ministry. medicines. The main factors resulting in low commodity

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availability is the lack of direct access to manufacturers, laboratory commodities, personal protective equipment and the use of manual systems that do not aid end-to-end and contract tracing expenses. Expenditure from visibility (from production to end user). The COVID-19 these funds as at January 2021 was One Hundred and pandemic has further exacerbated the situation. Sixty-Four Million, Nine Hundred and Sixty-Seven Thousand, Three Hundred and Seventy-Seven Pula COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND THE RESPONSE (P164 ,967,377.00). The remaining balance is still in the MECHANISM COVID-19 Relief Fund Account.

Mr Chairperson, since the COVID-19 pandemic started Furthermore, Mr Chairperson, in September 2020, a at the beginning of 2020 and following the recording supplementary budget amounting to One Billion Pula st of the first case of COVID-19 in Botswana on the 31 (P1,000,000,000.00) was allocated to my ministry to March 2020, we have put measures in place to prevent continue the funding of COVID-19 activities. As at 28th the spread and transmission of the virus. February 2021, an amount of Five Hundred and Two The leading features of the control strategy for this Million, Five Hundred and Seventy-One Thousand, pandemic include reducing exposure by conducting Sixty Hundred and Fifty-Four Pula (P502,571,654.00) public education to influence behaviour change; the was already expended, leaving an unspent balance of implementation of sanitary measures; the enforcement Four Hundred and Ninety-Seven Million, Four Hundred of face coverings as well as contact tracing, the and Twenty-Eight Thousand, Three Hundred and Forty- quarantining and testing those who have been potentially Six Pula (P497,428,346.00). Part of which will be spent exposed, et cetera. in March 2021.

Laboratory Services On the oversight front, Mr Chairperson, my ministry has resolved to undertake frequent audits regarding the Mr Chairperson, at the onset of this pandemic, the procurement of COVID-19 commodities. So far, two whole value-chain comprising laboratory capacity audits have been undertaken in June and November was not adequate. The capacity of the National Health 2020. The results indicate that management controls Laboratory (NHL) services has improved from being could have been better-designed, for operational able to process 500 tests per day to 5,000. The overall efficiency. To this end, corrective measures have been national performance of approved laboratories now put in place to address the anomalies. Most importantly, have an estimated full capacity of 10,000 tests per day. administrative action, including monitoring is being This has been made possible by expanding and opening taken to ensure compliance with procurement; as well laboratory services at Botswana Harvard Partnership, as financial instructions and procedures. Kasane and Palapye Primary Hospitals; as well as at COVID-19 Vaccine Nyangabgwe HIV Reference Laboratory. We have further collaborated with the private sector and so far, Mr Chairperson, steps have been taken to ensure that seven private laboratories are involved in COVID-19 when vaccines become available, Botswana will testing services, including two at Jwaneng and Orapa have access to them. In this respect, the Botswana Mine Hospitals. Government through my ministry took the prudent step COVID-19 Employment Creation to join the COVID-19 Vaccine Global Access Facility to ensure that Botswana is not left behind when these In order to improve and facilitate better services, vaccines become available. my ministry has directly employed a wide cadre of professionals, approximately 1556. HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE

COVID-19 Funding and Procurement Mr Chairperson, we have noted concerns by Honourable Members of Parliament regarding the delayed or non- Mr Chairperson, an amount of One Hundred and implementation of planned health facilities, generally, Seventy-Eight Million, Four Hundred and Thirty- during the National Development Plan 11 (NDP One Thousand, Eight Hundred and Fifty-Three Pula 11) period. As per the Mid Term Review of NDP 11 (P178,431,853.00) was availed to my ministry as a presentations, delayed implementation was, in part, due disbursement from the COVID-19 Relief Fund to cover to budgetary and capacity constraints by the Government quarantine costs, wages for temporary employees, and implementing agencies.

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Mr Chairperson, with respect to the maintenance of that a Development Budget in the sum of Four Hundred health facilities, my ministry had; effective September and Thirty-One Million, Three Hundred and Fifty 2017, engaged 11 Facilities Management Consultants Thousand Pula (P431,350,000) be approved and stand for a series of three-years contracts. The performance part of those Estimates for the financial year 2021/2022. of these Facilities Management Consultants is being I thank you Mr Chairperson. reviewed with a view to determine the way forward. MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you very much Mr Chairperson, I am concerned that some contractors Honourable Minister. Remember Honourable Members, are performing below the expected levels, despite that I will be calling upon the Minister to reply to the accessing and benefiting from citizen empowerment debates at 1715 hours. The floor is open! schemes available. Over time, their contracts are either being terminated due to poor workmanship, or the ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL projects being completed after a long time and at very GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT high costs, than initially budgeted for. (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mma ke leboge Minister for the presentation of his In order to improve quicker turnaround times and to budget. ensure fit for purpose delivery; as well as to reduce costs of architectural plans, my ministry in collaboration with Mr Chairperson, I think the time is very short, so I the Ministry of Infrastructure and Housing Development am going to run through a lot of stuff here. I would (MIH) is developing guidelines to manage donations and request you Honourable Members that if they have any plans regarding the expansion of health posts and clinics procedures and other things to wait until probably I as an example. These guidelines will further inform come to the end of my deliberations. District Development Planning as coordinated by the Mr Chairperson, let me just from the onset indicate that Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development I support the Minister in his request, and I welcome the (MLGRD). This is in order to improve infrastructure of community centred strategy of primary healthcare as health facilities with local and international parties. enunciated at Paragraph 14 of the Minister’s presentation. OVERALL BUDGET ESTIMATES FOR 2021/2022 Having said that, I want to make few observations that FINANCIAL YEAR our health planning from the past and now, I would want to suggest that if we have not that done before, Mr Chairperson, the proposed budget estimates for really there are three principles that we should observe my ministry for the 2021/2022 financial year total when we do health planning. It is the principle of need, Eight Billion, Three Hundred and Twenty-Six Million, equity and cost effectiveness. Mr Chairperson, I think Eight Hundred and Fourteen Thousand, One Hundred these should be the guiding principles whenever we do and Forty Pula) (P8,326,814,140.00). Out of this any planning. These will avoid if I were to say, the gaps amount, Seven Billion, Eight Hundred and Ninety- that we are seeing now; equities, imbalances and the Five Million, Four Hundred and Sixty-Four Thousand, omissions which are bedeviling the health industry in One Hundred and Forty Pula (P7,895,464,140.00) or this country as we speak Mr Chairperson. 94.8 per cent is for the Recurrent Budget, while Four Hundred and Thirty-One Million, Three Hundred and Mr Chairperson, I would also want to say that because Fifty Thousand Pula (P431,350,000) or 5.2 per cent is of these and probably that we have not done or followed for the Development Budget. This budget proposal, is in a meaningful and credible planning hitherto, there are line with the national priority of ensuring more efficient gaps that are so blurry. Government spending and financing. As we speak Mr Chairperson if I were to go to the CONCLUSION constituency that I represent in this August House, the Lerala-Maunatlala Constituency, we do not have Mr Chairperson, I move that the sum of Seven Billion, a primary hospital. The clinics which are there do not Eight Hundred and Ninety-Five Million, Four Hundred stand to the test of time. and Sixty-Four Thousand, One Hundred and Forty Pula (P7,895,464,140.00) under the Recurrent Budget for My intention Mr Chairperson, ke gore ke ya go soboka Organisation 1100 be approved and stand part of the what I am saying ka Setswana at the end because I want Schedule of Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 and to run through a lot of things here.

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Mr Chairperson, I am saying that if we were doing the leng gore he has never seen before, where does he gets panning as I am suggesting now, we would not be seeing accommodation? If we have put a primary hospital Sekgoma being put on top of Sekgoma Memorial. This in Lerala Mr Chairperson… this was in National is wrong. If we were to say that if we have taken to Development Plan (NDP) 11. I acknowledge that I Sekgoma Memorial 1, renovated it and increased the am the first person and I spoke about it when we were capacity somehow, we would have taken the money debating the Budget as presented by Rre Matsheka gore that have built Sekgoma 2 and put a very meaningful I am the first person to admit that we are derailed by facility in Palapye or Lerala-Maunatlala. This has not the COVID-19. I am saying, going forward when things happened Mr Chairperson. What we are seeing now get better, let us see to it that the principles as I have is a whole problem because people in Lerala, some in outlined them here, we adhere to that kind of planning Sefhare-Ramokgonami and those coming from kwa ga Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, how much time do I Rre …(Interruptions)… would all converge in Palapye. have? By so… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation ke go thuse HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation. o lapile!

MR MODUKANELE: I requested at the beginning “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP’’ that can the elucidations wait until I come close to the end. I will give you Honourable Member. We now … MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Two minutes, (Inaudible)… problems happening gompieno that we three seconds. are going through them Mr Chairperson. Look what MR MODUKANELE: I want to leave my submission is happening, because of the omissions that have been by quoting Proverbs 3 Verse 27 which says, “do not done, we are seeing no facility kwa Tonota if I were to withhold good from those who deserve it, when it is give an example. I am saying Minister, today we cannot in your power to act.” Mr Chairperson, I wanted to walk away from these issues. Somebody has to correct make this submission, I hope …(Interruptions)… ones the omissions of the history. History cannot correct that needs to be said because if you look across the itself Mr Chairperson, and I want to submit that the time landscape of this country, Lerala-Maunatlala, there is no is now for us to take that corrective action. Nothing has justification that one can give if the planning was done been cast in stone. We have to make a deliberate move right that we should not be having at least a primary to make sure that our health planning is on cause and we hospital. I thank you Mr Chairperson. make sure that those who are in need like I said the … (Interruptions)… …nnetlane… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Domkrag ga e plan sentle. Mr Chairperson, if I were to quote from the National Spatial Plan on Page 78, it says, “there is need to MR RAMOGAPI: Elucidation. Ke ne ke re ke go improve health and wellbeing by improving access tlatse mokaulengwe ka gore kana kgang e o e buang, o to adequate health facilities and a better distribution bolelela ruri. Sepatela sa Lerala-Maunatlala se sale se of health professionals.” This Mr Chairperson, is the nna mo NDP 9, tse tsa bo Moshupa di tla maabane. Tse challenge that we are facing today. This is what I want dingwe tse di tla maabane mme ga se agiwe. Batho ba to submit that we should from now onwards occupy Lerala-Maunatlala botlhe ba tletse fela kwa Palapye. Fa ourselves to make sure that at the end of the say, we gona kwa batho ba Modimo ba ka yang teng mme… distribute the health facilities equitably so that we decongest areas where there is congestion today. If MR MODUKANELE: Nnyaa Mr Chairperson. May I we were to say that if somebody has to be admitted in correct Rre Ramogapi on one thing? Palapye Primary Hospital, it means his family has to MR CHAIRPERSON: Mma a wetse pele Honourable leave Lerala, Maunatlala and all other areas and go to Modukanele, you will correct him. Gakere you should Palapye. O a itse gore in Setswana if a member of the have…(Interruptions)… family is admitted in the hospital, we are also admitted in the hospital. We go there to make sure that he or MR RAMOGAPI: Ke ne ke re ka bokhutshwane fela she gets whatever; the psychological comfort that that mokaulengwe, ke dumalana le wena, but population ya person may need. Imagine somebody from Lerala, with Palapye, Lerala-Maunatlala, Serowe South le Serowe his last P20 having to travel to Palapye in a place e e North e ntsi, e imela Palapye, mme sepatela sa lona se

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tswa bogologolo se le mo NDP, tse di tlang maabane tsa Ke taboge Mr Chairperson, ke tle gongwe ke ba siele bo Moshupa, di setse di dirilwe. nako ba bangwe ka gore go lebega re batla go bua re le bantsi mo health. Ke supe fela gore Mr Chairperson, MR MODUKANELE: I was going to say that let us population ya Botswana e godile, mme fa e godile jaana, not mix issues, if you check the District Development go a supafala gore re na le tlhaelo kana re tlhokana le Plan (DDP) 6 ya Southern, Rre Mooka, the former gore re ka bo re agile dipatela kana clinics tse dintsi Government Statistician, the former Member of tse di tsamaelanang le population ya rona gompieno. Parliament for Moshupa a le mo Palamenteng, ke bereka Jaaka o ne o utlwa bo Rre Modukanele a lela ka Lerala- here, o ne a bua ka sepatela sa Moshupa, that hospital Maunatlala gore ga gona le fa e le sepatela, ga gona eng, was included mo DDP 6. What I am trying to say ke le Gaborone e ntse fela jalo, population ya teng e godile. gore, let us not mix issues, ke bua ka gore sepatela sa Fa o lebelela gore mo Gaborone, re na le sepatela se le Lerala-Maunatlala it is nnetane and indeed se ne se le sengwefela se se bidiwang Marina, se se rweleng bokete mo NDP 11 ...(Interruptions)… Minister a di buileng, jwa lefatshe. Gaborone ka population e e over bo 300 mme I am saying Mr Chairperson, going forward, tota 000, plus lefatshe lotlhe from all corners of Botswana, let us do what is right, re se ka ra tlhatlaganya Sekgoma clinics tsotlhe di tshololela balwetse kwa sepateleng sa on top of Sekgoma kwa Serowe. This could have given Marina. Sepatela se ga se sa tlhole se kgona. Jaanong us three hospitals if we were doing the right planning, mme Mr Chairperson, ga re a tshwanela go itlhoboga, things cannot just ...(Interruptions)... Mr Chairperson. re tshwanetse gore re leke. Ke kope Tona fela gore re na le clinics tse gongwe o ka di dirisang dilo tse dingwe tse HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Interruptions!)... di dirwang kwa Marina jaana, to decongest balwetse ba ba tlalang kwa, ba tswa dikhutlong tse nne tsa lefatshe. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Modukanele, your Jaanong fa o ka dira gore botoka o tokafatse clinics tse time is up. Batho bao ba tlaa go...(Interruptions)... dingwe o di godise, dilo tse di tshwanang le x-ray and HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Interruptions!)... ultrasound machines tsa isiwa kwa clinics tseo tse di tletseng mo Botswana, ga fokodiwa mosuke o o kwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ka sianela kwa Marina. Sekgoma, Moshupa a le teng? Ke batla go taboga Modulasetilo, ke tsene kwa kgaolong MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Order! Honourable ya me ya Bonningtong South, e re nang le selelo. Kwa Members, a re se ka ra dira jalo, se direng selo se ke Gaborone Bonnington South Modulasetilo, re na le sa se tlwaelang, re a bo re ntse re tsamaya sentle, ka clinics tse pedi, kwa Block 9 le kwa... borepe, le a bo le simolola... MR CHAIRPERSON: There is a request for HONOURABLE MEMBER: A re Serowe e rileng? elucidation from Honourable Makwinja.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, le ene o a itse MR GREEFF: Ee, ke tlaa mo fa sebaka, tlaa ke taboge gore Domkrag ga e plan sentle... Mr Chairperson. Re na le clinics tse pedi jaaka ke bua, ya Gaborone West e e fa gare ga matshebetshebe a MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Hikuama... batho. Jaanong yone clinic e Mr Chairperson, e bulwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Yo o tsenang o gogela ka half seven, e tswalwa ka half four maitseboa, mme kobo kwa ga bone. gone fa e leng teng, ke gone fa go tletseng batho ba ba ntsintsi, e na le wards di le four, ke Bophirima, Morula, MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, good Mosekangwetsi le e nngwe ya ka fa Bonnington afternoon. The next speaker is Honourable Greeff. North ya ga Mma Mokgethi, ya Diphetogo. Ke bua ka wards tse di rweleng batho. Mme gone mo kokelong MR GREEFF (GABORONE BONNINGTON e Mr Chairperson, go tlhomola pelo e bile go tlhabisa SOUTH): Ke go leboge Modulasetilo. Ke simolole fela ditlhong gore clinic e ke nngwe ya tse di kgologolo, ka go supa gore ke ema Tona nokeng ka kopo ya gagwe ga e na ngaka. Balwetse ba ba yang koo gore ba bone ya madi. Sa ntlha fela ke simolole gape le go leboga ngaka, ba a sokola, ba kgona go tsaya bo two days go Puso go bo e santse e itlamile gore e tlaa e tswelela e bona ngaka. Molwetse o tlaabo a tsena mo clinic eo, a thusa Batswana ka dipilisi tsa Antiretroviral (ARV), bo a thusiwa ke nurse, ka gore ga gona ngaka, fa nurse high blood, sukiri le malwetse fela otlhe ka go fapaana. a lemoga gore molwetse o tlhokana le go bonwa ke

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ngaka, o mo romela kwa clinic ya Block 9. Fa a tsena (GPH), Goromente ga a na one. Le one fa o o swa, the kwa Block 9, o ya go fitlhela go na le line gape e ntsi whole population ya Botswana ya two million, re lebile koo le yone e e thusiwang mo Block 9, ba emetse go machine o le mongwefela. bona ngaka. Motho wa Modimo o tlaabo a fola koo the whole day, fa a sena go bona ngaka kwa Block 9, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation. molwetse wa Modimo, ngaka gongwe e tlaabo e bona MR GREEFF: Tona, a ko o tlhwaafale, fa o ka gore molwetse o ka romelwa kwa Princess Marina tlhwaafala wa itse gore cancer ke nngwe ya malwetse Hospital. Mr Chairperson, fa a tsena kwa Marina kwa mo Botswana a a fetsang batho, ke gore fela ga re na emergency gore a bone ngaka, balwetse ba ba tsaya bo didirisiwa jaaka ke bua machines tse di tlhatlhobang, o two to three days gore ba bone ngaka. Jaanong dikgang ne o tlaa dumalana le se ke se buang gore cancer ke tse ke tse di tlhomolang pelo, tse ke kopang Tona gore a nngwe ya malwetse a a bolayang batho. ko a di tsibogele ka pela, a bone gore batho ba Gaborone West, ba lela ka ngaka, fa o ka re thusa ka ene Rraetsho Mo godimo ga moo, fa o tsena kwa Oncology Ward kwa Tona. Marina, ga gona dingaka tse di rutetsweng cancer, go na le only three Oncology nurses mo Botswana. A mme Sabobedi se ba se kopang mo go yone ke gore clinic e e o raya gore those three nurses, fa ba ka re tlogela mo dire 24 hours because bosigo morafe o o kanakana o ke Pusong, re tlaabo re le ba ga mang. Re na le mathata o buang, ga gona se se ba pegang, se ba isa kwa clinic Tona a a batlang gore o a tsibogele ka pele, train nurses ya Block 9. ba le bantsi ba Oncology. Let me yield for Honourable Mr Chairperson, mma ke taboge gape ka bonako ke Healy, ga ke itse gore nako e setse e le kae. tsena gone fa ke le kwa Marina, kwa emergency jaaka MR CHAIRPERSON: O setse ka one minute 13 ke ne ke bua gore molwetse kwa emergency ya Marina, seconds. o tsaya two to three days gore a bone thuso. Go na le mathata a Tona go tlaareng o a tsibogele mongwame MR GREEFF: Tlaa ke feleletse Healy. Ke raya gore gore balwetse, Batswana ba bone thuso ya bongaka ka Tona, dilo tse dingwe tse go tlhabisa ditlhong tota gore pela. re le lefatshe la Botswana, re bo re sena ditsompelo tse di ntseng jaana. Ema ka dinao jaaka re go ema nokeng mo Fa go ntse jalo Mr Chairperson, ke feta ka pela, nako budget e e ntseng jaana. Botoka decongest Marina. Tsaya e gorogile ya gore re le lefatshe la Botswana, re nne le dingaka o di gasegase le clinics, o bo o reka machines sepatela se se ikemetseng ka nosi sa cancer. Fa o tsena tsa Ultrasound le X-ray, a sengwe le sengwe se se ka sa kwa Marina, balwetse ba cancer ka fa o ka bonang ba dirwa kwa Marina. The whole of Gaborone balwetse ba sotlega ka teng, go tlhomola pelo. Ba ba robadiwang ela X-ray le ultrasound kwa Marina, mme e le machines kwa Marina, go na le ward e le nngwefela, e robatsa fela tse ke tsayang gore di motlhofo di ka dirisiwa le ke mme, rre, ngwana wa mosetsana, wa mosimane golo go just a medical doctor, le baoki bangwe ba ba rutetsweng le gongwefela, le gone e le ward fela mo go nnye, mo go go di dirisa. Tona, re a go kopa mongwame phatlalatsa felelang mo diatleng. dingaka le clinics tsa Gaborone, o fokotse mosuke o o Sabobedi, equipment tse di tlhatlhobang le malwetse a kwa Marina. Ka a le kalo Mr Chairperson, ka gore nako bo cancer tse di tshwanang le mammography machines, e tšhaile, ke a go leboga sir. o mongwefela mo Botswana, the whole country, o kwa MR LESEDI (SEROWE SOUTH): Mma ke go leboge Marina, le one o etla o sa bereke, mo e leng gore fa Modulasetilo, ke supe gore ke ema nokeng Tshutiso motho a tshwanetse gore a tlhatlhobelwe malwetse a e. Ke e ema nokeng ke lebile gore go rebolwe madi, mangwe a a tsamaisanang le bo cancer, o ema three to Batswana ba ye go thusiwa Modulasetilo. Modulasetilo, six months gore a bone thuso e e ntseng jalo. Fa o lebile fa o gakologelwa ministry o ke one o o tshwereng le madi a a dirisiwang a ke neng ke botsa Tona potso ka matshelo a batho. Batswana ba lebile gore ministry o o one, go supa gore mo ngwageng fela, go dirisiwa about ba boloke. bo P320 million for batho ba ba isiwang kwa ntle, mo go supang gore ga re ka ke ra palelwa ke gore re le lefatshe, Ke tseye nako e go leboga Tona, ke mo lebogele gore e re le Puso, go rekiwe machines tseo. Fa o lebelela gape ne ya re fa re ba kaela letlhoko le le teng kwa Serowe radiation machine mo Botswana, o mongwefela fela la sepatela se segologolo sa Sekgoma, Tona wa Dikago and that machine o kwa Gaborone Private Hospital Rraetsho Kgafela, a ya go se neela ba Lephata la Health

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and Wellness. Tona, re re a tsibogele se, go bona gore go siame, kwa Tonota re sena le fa e le sepe ngwana wa sepatela se tsenngwa bodiredi jo bo lekaneng gore bomma? A o bona go siame Rraagwe Nkamo? ditirelo tsa sone di tle di tsamaye jaaka fa Batswana ba HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke plan ya Domkrag. solofetse. MR LESEDI: Mma ke tswelele, gongwe go ka tswa O ka gakologelwa gore sepatela se, e ka nna se ba tikologo go sa siama. Ke ka dumalana le wena fa o e leba jalo. yotlhe ya motse wa Serowe le bone ba Serowe tota ba Nna ka re, a Tona a bone gore dipatela tse di tsenngwa ka thusiwang kwa go sone. Kana sepatela se sesha sa bodiredi jo bo ka lekanang. Sepatela sa Sekgoma se Sekgoma, bontsi jwa nako se ne se dirilwe as a referral, sesha, se agilwe go lebilwe gore e tlaa nna referral mme le sone mo seemong sa gompieno ke sepatela se se hospital, jaanong fa e le gore Goromente wa Puso ya iseng se tle mo seemong se se ka kgotsofatsang, ka gore letsatsi ga a bone go le maleba gore dikamore tseo di tota fa o leba mo nakong e ntsi, bodiredi jwa dipatela bo dirisiwe, di tlaa nna fela jaaka di ntse jaana. Ke matlotla a tlhaela. Sepatela sa Sekgoma yo mosha, ke sepatela fela, ga se gore di siame. Di onetse Rraagwe Nkamo, le leina fela bagarona, re gakologelwe gore fa o ka ya go fa o bona di santse di le disha jaana. tsena mo teng ga sone ke matlhabisaditlhong. Konteraka e e neng e se aga, ga se a ka sa agega ka fa motho a neng HONOURABLE MEMBER: That is a good response. a ka solofela ka teng... MR LESEDI: Ke ne ke re, a re lebeng gore dipatela HONOURABLE MEMBER: Dilo tsa ga the former? tse bagaetsho ga di na melemo le dipilisi. Batswana ba ba tshelang bokete ba a sokola, ka gore fa ba tsena MR LESEDI: O se ka wa nkitaya tsebe ka the former… kwa dipatela ba kwalelwa dipilisi le melemo e, ba ya go tlhotlhoma le chemists mo ba batla dipilisi ba sa di bone, HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Laughter!)… gongwe ba di bona ba sena madi batho ba Modimo. A MR LESEDI: …fa ke re ga se a agega, ke raya gore Goromente fela a eme ka dinao go bona gore go rekwa metsi a a kwa godimo a a molelo, fa o le kwa tlase, o dipilisi tse di lekaneng to supply balwetse ba ba tlaabong kgona go utlwa fela a go tshela, e bile fa gongwe e se mo nakong eo ba tlhoka go thusiwa. Mma ke kgabole, e metsi fela a o ka a akanyang, gongwe e le metsi a a ya dipilisi o e utlwile. dirisitsweng. Jaanong diemo tse, e kete go bokiwa Dipatela tsa rona ga di na bongaka. Re tlaa re dipatela Serowe gore o na le sepatela sa Sekgoma, ntswa tota se tsa rona di na le bongaka Tona, fa nna le wena re ya sa nna sentle. Ke tsone dilo tse ke e teng ke di bue tse go thusiwa kwa go tsone. Fa Goromente wa rona le Healy, le a bo le batla gore ke ye kwa go tsone, mme ke santse le ipona le le bagogi kana babusi, re palelwa ke ne ke sa eletse go ya koo. go ya go kopa thuso teng, go raya gore re dumela gore Mma ke siane ke supe gore, mo dipateleng tsa rona fela bongaka jwa dipatela tsa rona tsa Puso, ke jwa boleng jo lefatshe ka bophara, tota gone go na le letlhoko Tona, bo kwa tlase. A re ikiteyeng kana le ikiteye ka thupana bogolo jang la melemo le dipilisi... Tona, le bone gore dipatela tse di tla mo seemong sa gore Batswana le bone ba di tshephe, ka gore ga e ka MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, P.P.P. is ke ya nna tsa bahumanegi, rona go bo go nna le kwa re asking for clarification. tlaabong re ka lebiwa re ya teng. A le rona bagaetsho re ipone re ya teng, mme re ka ya teng fela di le mo MR LESEDI: P.P.P, nako ga e yo botate, kgabola ka seemong se se kgotsofatsang. pela. Ke supe gore kwa kgaolong ya me rraetsho ke fe sekai MR MOATLHODI: Clarification. Ke a go leboga fela ka yone, e bile ke tlise e le kopo. Re na le clinic Modulasetilo, ke go leboga thata Rraagwe Nkamo, e e kwa Mothamo e bidiwa Moiyabana Clinic, e kwa Mopalamente wa me yo ke mo ratang thatathata. motseng wa Moiyabana. Clinic e e rwele bokete, ke Honourable Lesedi, ke gore sepatela sa Sekgoma yone mo tikologong yotlhe ya Mothamo, Mothamo re se sesha, a o a lemoga Motlotlegi Mopalamente gore raya... dikamore tse dingwe di a ija, e bile di wa lerole, ga MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, Honourable di dirisiwe? Go na gape le Sekgoma ka kwa Teacher Mathoothe is asking for elucidation. Training College (TTC) ka kwa. Ke gore o na le dipatela tse pedi; fa o tshwantshanya le kwa Tonota, a tota o bona MR LESEDI: Mathoothe, elucidate ka bonako.

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MR MATHOOTHE: Elucidation. Thank you Mr ka gore jo e bile bo borai le go gaisa. Re dire dithuto re Chairperson. Mokaulengwe, o e tshwere sentle. Kgang bone gore dilo tse di ka felela fa kae le Batswana ba di e nngwe e o tshwanetseng gongwe wa feta ka yone, tlhaloganya go le kae. ke go lebelela gore mo sepateleng sa Sekgoma go na le service ya laundry, e facility ya teng e tsentsweng Mma ke eme go le go nnye for Motlotlegi Majaga to sengwe le sengwe. Keletso e tona ke gore, these elucidate mme ka pela ka gore ke batla go tla ke garela. services tse di leng teng koo, di tshwanetse go neelwa MR MAJAGA: On a point of elucidation. Thank you local companies. We do not want to see dikompone Mr Chairperson and thank you Honourable Member. tse di tswang kwa ntle di dirisa didirisiwa tsa laundry Tota ke ne ke re ke botse kana ke go tsibose gore a mme mo dipateleng tsa referral, mme go na le companies ka fa re bonang dipatela tsa rona, le rona tota kwa bo tsa Batswana tse di ka di dirisang. Ke yone e nne ke Mosetse le bo Nata ga gona dipatela ga gona clinics. Ke re ke fete ka yone mokaulengwe, le gore sepatela se re ka go lebega go le matota, go sena some medications segologolo sa Sekgoma, se se neng se agilwe ke Magosi and all those things, a ga o bone gore nako e tlile jaaka a pele, tota mo nakong ya gompieno ke clinic fela. mafatshe otlhe around the globe gore Batswana le bone Thank you. ba rutiwe gore ba nne ba latlhela ma P20, ma P50, ma MR LESEDI: Mma ke go leboge Modulasetilo. Nnyaa, P30 because the Government has been doing well gore ke boammaruri, fa o elucidate Mathoothe o tlhamalale o tsena fela mo sepateleng for free. Le mafatshe a a fela o bue tse o eletsang go di bua, mme ke lebogela humileng golo moo ga go direge, gore re simolole ka elucidation eo. gore diteemane ke tse le bo COVID ba re ruta sengwe. Ke a leboga mokaulengwe. Ke supe gore clinic e bagaetsho e rwele bokete, bogolo Tona akanya gore a clinic e e ka se ka ya bereka 24 MR LESEDI: Nnyaa mme nna ke ne ke sa e lebe jalo… hours. Re a kopa e bile re a khubama rraetsho gore a (Interruptions)… e sekasekelwe gore e bereke 24 hours. Kana fa o leba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, your time metse yotlhe ya Mothamo go simolola fela kwa Goo- is up. Mogorosi go ya go ema kwa Mosolotshane… MR LESEDI: Ke a leboga. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Lesedi, there is a request for elucidation from Honourable Majaga. MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, MR LESEDI: Mma ke kgabole pele. Jaanong clinic e SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR Tona re a kopa gore e lebelele gore a go ka se ka ga RAKGARE): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Thank you dirwa thulaganyo ya gore e bereke 24 hours. Metse e e very much for giving me this opportunity gore le nna ke e okametseng kana e e e thusang e mentsi thata. Ke re latlhele. Ke supe fela Mr Chair gore ke setse ke kile ka gongwe ke fetise e le yone kopo. supa matshwenyego mo go yone Palamente e ka seemo sa botsogo mo motseng wa rona wa Mogoditshane o o Mma ke ye kwa go e ya COVID-19 Modulasetilo. Tona lejwang e le motsesetoropo. Ke supa matshwenyego a bolwetse jo jwa COVID-19 go a lebega mo nakong ya fela jaaka ke ntse ke tla ke bua ka dikgang tsone tsa gompieno gore re a go tshela le jone. Jaanong ke ne bo kabo ya lefatshe gammogo le tse dingwe tse di ke akanya gore a ko le lebe gore thuto e nna teng mo farologanyeng. Batswaneng. Balwetse ba ka jaanong centres di padile, ba okelwa kwa malwapeng mo nakong e ntsi. Mme fa Kana tumelo ya rona ke gore fa re aba ditlhabololo, re di ba okelwa kwa malwapeng jaaka, baoki ba bone ga ba aba re lebile gore mme gone bokete jwa batho bo ntlha itse, e bile ga ba tlhomamise gore ba tshwanetse ba ba efe, e bo e le gone jaanong re ka simololang go bona tshwara jang bogolo jang fa go tla go nna le dintsho. O gore ditlhabololo re di aba ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Mr fitlhela e le gore ke thulathulano le ketsaetsego e le gore Chair mme o kare go botlhokonyana gore nako le nako ga go itsiwe gore motho o tshwanelwa ke gore a tsewe motho a bo a opela pina e le nngwefela ya gore mme jang a isiwe kwa go ba bongaka ba ye go rurifatsa gore tlhe bagaetsho a ko re lebe Kgaolo ya Mogoditshane, ammaaruri o tlhokafetse. Tsone dilo tsone tse ke ne ke re lebelele letlhoko le le leng teng, re lebelele seemo re a go nne le thuto mo Batswaneng ka ditsela tsotlhe sa botsogo ka fa se sa nnang sentle ka teng. O lebelela fela tse e leng gore gongwe re a tle re nne re bone mo gore Mogoditshane re na le clinics fela di le pedi tse ke makoeng a mangwe go dirwa dithuto tse bogolo jang supileng maloba gore di a imelwa, di imelwa fela thata

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fa o lebile ka fa e leng gore batho ba tshelegela ka bokete o di lebelele mokaulengwe; o di lebelele thata ka leitlho mo go tsone. E bile fa e le seemo se sa COVID-19 sone le le rileng. O lebelele gore mosuke o re tlholang re o jaanong ke selelo le khuranyo ya meno. Ke ntlang le bona kwa Princess Marina, kana fa re baakantse kwa boneng, fa o ka ya kwa clinic ya Nkoyaphiri wa ya go Mogoditshane, ke gone jaaka re tlaabo re lekile bojotlhe bona gone kwa go nang le fa go faphegileng fa e leng go leka go hema mosuke one wa go nna jalo. gore batho ba ka tlhatlhobiwa teng jalo le jalo, ke seemo se se ngomolang pelo Mr Chairperson. Tona a ko fela Re nne le specialists mo Mogoditshane Mr Chairperson a iphe nako a lebelele kgaolo e thata gore go maswe go ba ba ka kgonang go alafa batho. Batho ba rona ke batho le kae. ba malwetse a a farologanyeng. Mme tota jaaka ke ntse ke supa, go botlhoko gore e bo e le gore batho ba nna ba Honourable Greeff o ne a bua kgantele gore kana go ntse ba tsamaya ba latela ditlamelo kgakala gone kwa botlhokwa gore some of the services tse di kwa Princess Gaborone mme e le gore re na le sebaka fela se se rileng Marina Hospital di isiwe gone kwa clinics. Ke re mme sa gore clinics tsa rona di ka godisiwa ya nna dipatela kana batho ba ba tswang kwa bo Gamodubu, Kopong, tse di nnye, ra bona ditlamelo di nna teng. Mmopane le ba ba tswang gone mo Mogoditshane ba ya gone kwa Princess Marina ba ya go batla ditlamelo. Mr Chair, ke ne ke re ke tle ke feleletse go bua ka Ba ya go di batla ka gone gore clinic ya Nkoyaphiri ke seemo sa Mogoditshane ke supe gore kana fa o lebelela clinic e e ka bong go ka twe e kgona gore e neele batho kgang yone ya COVID-19, go na le gore batho ba services tse di tlhokafalang. Mme ga gona jaaka re ka tlhatlhobiwe, gongwe ba bangwe ba fitlhelwe e le bua seo, ga gona seo jaaka se ka kgonagala e le gore ga gore ba setse ba na le mogare one wa COVID-19. Mr gona le fa e le sepe se se leng teng Mr Chairperson. Ga Chairperson, mme se se botlhoko ke gore gongwe e le gona Accident and Emergency Unit mo Mogoditshane, ntata yone ya gore dipalo di dintsi thata mo kgaolong ya kgaolo yotlhe, mme it services over 60 000 population rona, mo gongwe batho ba ya go bewa kwa malwapeng ya batho. Ga gona le fa e le admission rooms, ga gona mme e le gore ga go nne le fa e le yone follow-up e e consultation rooms, ga gona fa go fapisiwang batho tlhokafalang e e tshwanetseng gore e dirwe gore mme teng fa ba bone dikgobalo mo Mogoditshane Mr gone go tsamayatsamaya fa kae. Batho ba bewa fela mo Chairperson. malwapeng, ga ba fiwe ditaelo tsa gore ba tshwanetse go itshwara ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Re solofela fela Tsa pelegi ga gona gope kwa o ka fitlhelang teng mo gore ba tlaa itshwara sentle, ba tlhaloganya melawana e Mogoditshane go na le tseo. Ga gona le fa e le tsone e beilweng. Mme kana ga re a tshwanela go dira jalo ka tsa bongaka jwa meno mo Mogoditshane. Ga gona gore motho ke motho, go tlaa re batho bagarona ba nne theatre, ga gona le fa e le sepe Mr Chairperson kwa ba ntse ba gakololwa kgapetsakgapetsa. Mogoditshane. Jaanong ke ne ke re ke kope fela Mr Chair, ke tshepha thata Honourable Minister Dr Ke batla go khutlisa Mr Chairperson ka go leboga Dikoloti e bile ke mongwe wa batho ba ke ba ratang Tona. Ke leboge gape le ba Lephata la gagwe la thata ba ke dumelang gore o na le bokgoni fela jo bo Health and Wellness. Ke leboge Coordinating Team tseneletseng. E bile o tlaa utlwa fa re bua ka dilo tse ya COVID-19; Dr Masupu, Professor Mosepele, Dr gore a ko e re mo nakong e e tlang fa go abiwa madi, Matshaba gammogo le ba e leng gore ba dira le bone kana fa yone budgeting process e simolola ba lephata ka tiro tona e ba e dirang ya gore ba lwantshe segajaja la gagwe ba lebelele. Kana ba ne ba setse ba kile kwa se sa COVID-19. Borre ba le bomme ba ba Modimo ba DDP 8 ya re fa ba e leba ba tsenya expansion ya clinic dirile tiro e tona, ba tswelela ka gore ba re thuse re le ya Mogoditshane mme nako kgolo ke eno. Ga re kgone Batswana gore bolwetse jo bo se ka jwa anama thata mo go bona le fa e le thulaganyo e e diragala. lefatsheng la Botswana le go fokotsa dipalo tsa batho ba ba ka tsenwang ke mogare o le dintsho tse re bonang di Mo nakong e e fetileng, mo ngwageng o o fetileng diragala kwa Sir Ketumile. go ne go kile ga supiwa gore Mogoditshane Clinic le yone is going to be expanded, go ya go ntshiwa madi They need our support Mr Chairperson. Ga ba tlhoke a a kana ka P7.2 million. Nako kgolo ke eno mme e gore batho ba bo ba tla mo Palamenteng ba re ke bile se ga re bone se le part of Committee of Supply kganetso ba bo ba ba goelela jaaka re kile ra bona mo ya ga Honourable Dikoloti.Mme ke re fela ke mo nakong e e fetileng. Ga ba tlhoke gore re bo re utlwa bo tsibose e le mokaulengwe gore dikgang tsa rona ke tse Honourable Keorapetse a ema mo Palamenteng a bo a Honourable Dikoloti kwa Mogoditshane. Re kopa gore re setlhopha se sa ga Rre Masupu se phatlaladiwe ka

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gore ga ba a dira le fa e le sepe. Fa e le gore bone ga ba Re ngomolwa pelo ke gore batho ba bo ba utlwile bone tiro e e dirwang ke… botlhoko, batho ba latlhegelwa ke matshelo. Batho ba setse ba latlhegetswe ke masika le ditsala ka ntata ya HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a simolola. COVID-19. Go a tlhokafala gore as Legislators re fe MR RAKGARE: …bo Rre Masupu, rona re bona tiro ba ba filweng boikarabelo jwa go lwantsha segajaja e e dirwang ke batho ba. support e e tlhokafalang. Ke re ke eme fela jalo Mr Chairperson. Next time o HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga a itse se a se tletseng ntshireletse. Ke rile golo fa bangwe ba rona o kare ba na mo Palamenteng. le bogankanyana jo bo tlaa reng o nne o bo kgalemela, MR RAKGARE: Mr Chair, o ntshireletse ba lese go re lese go… nkgoelela. MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up! His Honour HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… the Vice President (VP). …Silence… MR RAKGARE: Batho ba ba tshwanang le bo Honourable Keorapetse, Batswana ba ba ikgatholose MR CHAIRPERSON: His Honour the Vice ka gore tiro ya bone ke yone e fela ya go tlhola motho President. a tsositse modumo mo Palamenteng a ntse a supa gore a Masupu, Professor Mosepele le Dr Matshaba ba MR KABLAY: Procedure. O mo phuthegong sir. kobiwe, sengwe le sengwe se phutlhame. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go tsena nna Mr HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe go tshwerwe Chairperson. tape ya gago kwa o mo mathateng. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ile to tender. MR RAKGARE: Motho o ka ipotsa gore a batho ba HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ao! O tsenngwa jang o ba batla go bona batho ba rona ba tswelela ba tlhokafala seyo from the list? ka fa re bonang batho ba tlhokafala ka teng? A batho ba ba eletsa gore batho ba rona ba tsenwe ke mogare wa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Monnakgotla, o COVID-19? Ka gore fa go tlhophilwe batho ba thusa simolola go… ka fa ba thusang ka teng gore ba lwantshe mogare e bo e le gore jaanong ba bangwe ba tla mo Palamenteng HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go tsena nna Mr go bua dipuo tse di sokameng, tse di maswe, tse ba Chairperson. nnang ba ntse ba di bua. Re batla gore mo nakong ya MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kablay. gompieno re kgothatse batho ba, ba Ministry of Health le Tona gore a tswelele. Molemo wa AstraZeneca o HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tsenya Tshabang. setse o tsile mme re solofetse jaaka a solofeditse gore e MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): mengwe e tlaa goroga, re tlaa kgona go bona Batswana Thank you Mr Chairperson. being vaccinated e bo e le gore re ntse re tsweletse ka itshireletso ya segajaja sa COVID-19. Re rata lefatshe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tota gatwe golo fa go le, le ntswa go na le go supa gore bone o kare ba le diragala eng? rata go gaisa mongwe. Le rona re a le rata. Ba ne ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, let me supa ka gore ba eme badirelapuso nokeng, ba ba filweng tell you something. Re dumalane gore formula ya rona boikarabelo jwa gore ba re thuse, ba thuse setšhaba sa ke 2:1, 2:1. You will be next in the list that I have here. lefatshe la Botswana. Ba tlogele dipuo tse tsa bone tse I have a list here from the Chief Whips. It says Kablay di kwa thoko kana ba ye go buela dikgang tse tsa bone is the next after VP. tse di sokameng go sele kwa ditlhareng. Go tlaa nna le HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa Mr nako e re tlaa yang kwa ditlhareng, re tlaa ya go kopana Chairperson… gone koo. Fa ba le mo Palamenteng ba tlhoafale ba tle go bua dikgang tse di ka agang e bile di ka thusa lefatshe MR CHAIRPERSON: Ka re I have a list. Please do la Botswana. not point your fingers at me. I received the list from the

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Whips. Therefore, the next person in the list from the Letlhakeng Clinic, di a rekiwa. Re sale re lela ka tsone, Whips is Honourable Kablay. mme ga go na sepe se se diragalang Mr Chairperson.

MR KABLAY: Le nna bagaetsho ke lebogele mafoko a Ke bue ka boroko jwa baoki ba kgaolo ya Letlhakeng ga Tona otlhe jaaka a ne a baya kopo fa pele ga rona. Ke bo gore ga bo yo kwa Letlhakeng. Baoki le dingaka tsa ke re rraetsho bolwetse jo jwa Corona bo re tshwarisitse rona ba robala kwa Molepolole ba bo ba phakela gore bothata mo kgaolong ya rona ya Letlhakeng. Rraetsho, ba ye go theogela. Jaanong kana gore motho a tsamae maabane fela jaana re ne re latlhegelwa ke bagaka, sebaka se se kalo sa 50 kilometres (km) letsatsi le bagolo ba motse, ba kgaolo e ya Letlhakeng. Re ne ra letsatsi, fa gongwe fa a le mo tseleng go ka diragala latlhegelwa ke Mmaetsho Goleba Mokwena yo e neng sengwe, balwetse ba mo emetse. Ke a kopa Tona gore e le Modulasetilo wa Segotsamolelo mo kgaolong ya a flats tse o di agileng kwa Letlhakeng o di neele baoki rona; komiti e e neng e le tona mo kgaolong. Mokgatlho ba nne mo teng. Kana o agile flats tse di manobonobo. o o ne o thusa batho ba Modimo. O tsamaile, o re Jaanong ga ke itse gore mathata a teng ka gore le sale le latlhegetse. Ra latlhegelwa gape ke mogwebi mogolo di agile rraetsho mme ga di bereke? Re kopa gore a flats Rraetsho Tshabakgosi Baithati. A mewa ya bone e tse di kwa Letlhakeng tsele tsa baoki di bereke re tle re robale ka kagiso. Mogolo wa motse, Rre Kepaletswe, thuse baoki ba rona. le ene o tsamaile. Rraetsho, ke isa matshediso ke le Mr Chairperson, e yone ga ke kitla ke e tlogela, gore re Mopalamente wa bone mo kgaolong gore batho betsho ne re solofeditswe primary hospital kwa Letlhakeng, e re ga le a latlhegelwa le le nosi, le Goromente wa rona o neng ra ntsha lebala la ditshupo gore re age sepatela koo. latlhegetswe. Re rapedisa ba ba lwalang. Re ba beile Jaanong gompieno Mr Chairperson, ga ke tlhaloganye fa pele ga Modimo gore ba fole ba tle ba kopane le gore Tona a reng ka gore sengwe le sengwe se dirilwe. baratiwa ba bone. E ne e le gore sepatela se simolola go agiwa. Gompieno Mr Chairperson, bolwetse jo rra jaaka ke bua, ga ke itse Corona ke e e re tshwarisitse bothata. Sepatela se Mr gatwe go rileng mo kgaolong ya Letlhakeng, letsatsi Chairperson, se ne se tshwanetse go agiwa ka 2017/2018, le letsatsi re a fitlha e le bolwetse jo. Jaanong ke kopa Corona e ise e nne teng. Jaanong tota o fitlhela e le gore ba Botsogo go re fa didirisiwa tsotlhe tse di ka thusang ga re itse gore re reye batho re reng, sepatela se se ne se bolwetse jo gore segolo e re fa re tsaya motho kwa tlile go thusa. Sepatela se se dikaganyeditswe ke mafelo Letlhakeng re mo isa kwa Sir Ketumile, bogolo a ye go a le mantsi, bo Kaudwane, Salajwe, Takatokwane, goroga koo ka ditsompelo tse re tlaabong re na le tsone Maboane, Malwelwe, Mantshwabisi le Ditshegwane. kwa kokelwaneng ya Letlhakeng. Sepatela se e ne e le sone se se tlileng go thusa sepatela sa Molepolole. Rraetsho, ke bue gape re a leboga Tona gore le bo le thusitse ka bana ba ba tsamayang ba nna ba re tlhola Mr Chairperson, go botlhoko thata gore e re le gore re tsoga jang. Mr Chairperson, ke bue gore bana solofeditswe sengwe, a bo e re fela go tshwanetse gore ba ga ba na kapari e e siameng. Ba tlhaetswe ke kapari go simololwe, a bo e le gore jaanong ba lephata ba re… e e sireletsang kgatlhonong le bolwetse jo. Jaanong ke (Interruptions)…Ke ne ke gakolola Minister gore, fa e kopa Tona gore a ye kwa Letlhakeng go bona gore re le gore sepatela se ga se agiwe mo kabong ya madi, a fa bana ba kapari e e ka ba sireletsang mo bolwetseng e re kabo e e tlang ya madi, sepatela se se tsene. Le jo jwa Corona. Basins tse re neng re di beetswe kwa tswa go bolelela batho ba kgaolo gore le tlile go aga Letlhakeng Clinic gore e ra fa o tsena o le motsadi mo sepatela, Minister Makgato-Malesu a ile koo, go bolela sepatela o tlhape diatla, owai! go sule Mr Chairperson. gore sepatela se etla. Go botlhoko gore re reye batho re Re sale re kopile gore a dilo tse di ye go baakanngwa re sepatela ga se agiwe…(Inaudible)…ka gore le clinics gore e re fa balwetse ba tsena kwa clinic ya Letlhakeng tsa rona, re ne re solofeditse batho kwa Malwelwe le ba kgone gore ba tle ba tlhape diatla. Boatlaname gore health posts tsa bone e ya go nna clinics. Jaanong Mr Chairperson, a tota mme go siame Mr Chairperson, Letlhakeng Clinic e na le dikgwetlho gore dilo tsotlhe di bo di tsewa fela mo kgaolong ya tse dintsi. Ba a lela rraetsho ba ba mo maternity. Ga go me? Sepatela, clinics, go sena le fa e le sepe se e leng na dikobo. Fa batho ba tsile go reka bana ba ka thusiwa gore… segolo tlhe Minister, o age se le sengwefela. ka go apara dikobo. Sheets le tsone ga di yo, ke makgasa Dira se le sengwefela Minister, o se ka wa tsaya gotlhe, fela Tona. Jaanong ke a kopa rraetsho gore a go emiwe kana fa o dira jaana, o kare o lwa le nna jaanong… ka dinao go bonwe gore dilo tse di a tsenngwa kwa (Interruptions)…

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Kablay, re a itse gore e teng mme fela nako e go neng go sena Honourable Lesaso is asking for elucidation. bolwetse jo, re ne ra nna bonya re le Goromente gore dilo tse di dirwe. Re leke go di dira rraetsho, ke a go MR LESASO: Elucidation. Honourable, kana golo fa bona o monana, o santse o na le matlolo, o ka tlola o kgang e o e buang e jaaka re le mabapi nna le wena, ke bona gore dilo tse di a dirwa. Ke go kopa rraetsho ka ka bo ke boelwa fa go wena fa clinics tsa rona di ka bo boikokobetso, a sepatela sa Letlhakeng se dirwe. Ke a di baakantswe, di le mo seemong se di ka re thusang ka leboga Mr Chairperson. re bapile. Jaaka Sojwe jaana a le gaufi foo le Lephephe, fa e le gore clinics di ne di bereka, gakere re ne re ka MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you thusana? Mr Chairperson, can you hear me?

MR KABLAY: O bolelela ruri Mopalamente, nna MR CHAIRPERSON: Yes, I can hear you. le wena re mmogo, Lephephe le Otse ke selo se le sengwefela. Le gompieno jaana, re ne re kopile Sojwe MR TSHERE: Thank you, microphone wa me o ne o gore ka re santse re emetse… ntlhola letsatsi leno. Tla ke go leboge gore o bo o mphile nako e Modulasetilo, go bua ka e e amang botsogo. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION Fela kwa ntlheng ke re, ke emela go ema nokeng Tona (MS MAKWINJA): Elucidation. Thank you Mr wa Botsogo le Boitekanelo, mo budget ya gagwe e a Chairperson. Ke a leboga Honourable Kablay. Kana re e beileng Ntlo e pele. Sa ntlha ke re, kana re santse re mmogo mo kgaolong e le nngwefela, ke elucidate mo le mo kgannyeng ya ntwa kgatlhanong le mogare wa go se o se buang. Ba Botlhapatlou, Lephephe jalojalo, Corona. Fa re tsamayang teng, re tsamaya fa re setseng o a itse gore kwa Lentsweletau ga gona le fa e le gope re kgona go ntsha mokento. Ke ne ke batla go rotloetsa kwa ba ka yang teng. Le tsone tsa ditsela tota, ke gore fela ka bokhutshwane gore betsho, re tshwanetse e re ga gona le fa e le sepe. Ke go tlatse ke re, a e re bo fa re bua ka dikgang tse di amang botsogo le mokento, Minister ba ntse ba sekaseka, bogolo jang ditsela tse di re itse gore dilo tse re di tlogelela ba bongaka. Re bo re gokaganyang Molepolole, fa e le gore ga gona se ba ka tshepha ka tshepho e e rileng gore fa e le gore ba bongaka se re direlang sa health, batho ba tle ba kgone go tsena ba re selo se se siame, tota ga ba ka ke ba re bolelela koo, operations di sa bulege mo tseleng. Ke a leboga. selo ba re se siame mme se sa siama, ka fa ke rutilweng ka teng mo dikgannyeng tsone tse tsa bongaka. Ke a MR MAJAGA: Elucidation. Ke a leboga Honourable rotloetsa thata gore re dumalane le… Kablay. Ke ne ke re dikgang tse di lebega di le thata lefatshe lotlhe jaaka o ne o bua mafelo a a kwa kgaolong MR REATILE: Procedure. Thank you Mr Chairperson. ya gago. Jaaka ke ne ke sa tswa go supa mo go Lesedi, Procedure e ke emang ka yone Mr Chairperson, ke gore gore bo Nata le Mosetse. Jaanong ga se gore gongwe o fitlhela re le mo lefifing ka gore re a ne re tsaya gore re tle re leke ka supplementary budget ya mariga? Re we follow chat ka fa e ntseng ka teng. You exercise your leke go baakanya seemo seo ka gore re mo nakong ya powers ka fa di ntseng ka teng, ke solofela gore ke mo COVID Honourable Kablay? Thank you. chat ka gore maabane ke letse ke seyo ke tserwe ke tsa bongaka Mr Chairperson. Ke mo lefifing fela, ke yone MR KABLAY: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Rraetsho procedure e ke neng ke re ke tlhaloganye fela ka yone. dilo tse di ka baakanngwa, mathata ke gore maphata a rona a ga Goromente, ba kokotletsa dilo. Ga ba fete ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Tanki Honourable Member. Ka dira se le sengwefela ba …(Inaudible)… se le sengwefela. fa ke berekang ka teng, re dumalane ka formula ya 2:1, Ga ba di dire, ba tlogela di kokotlegela, kgantele di a 2:1, two from the ruling party, one from the opposition. pala gore di diragale. Dikgang tse tsa dipatela, ke ntse We have two lists here, re na le list ya Umbrella For ke reeditse, ke selelo sa lefatshe lotlhe. Ga re gane madi Democratic Change (UDC) le ya Botswana Democratic ga a yo, mme fa phatlhanyana e bulega, a tse dingwe Party (BDP), and then lona Botswana Patriotic Front di dirwe. Ngwaga o o tlang se le sengwefela se dirwe, (BPF) and Alliance for Progressives (AP) show by tse pedi di dirwe, go se ka ga nna tshootshoo fela. Fa raising hands. Fa o ne o etse tlhoko, fa ke simolola, go nna tshootshoo fela Mr Chairperson, fa o bona re ke biditse two from BDP, then got Honourable Lesedi lela, re a bo re letswa ke gore tota re sale re buile, ga from BPF. Then one from the BDP and then ke biditse re itse gore re bue jang. Ga re itse gore a re bue Sekgoa Honourable Tshere, mo go rayang gore from here I kana Segerika gore go tle go reediwe. Kgang e ya madi should go back to BDP. Ke ka fa re tsamayang ka teng.

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MR TSHERE: Tanki Modulasetilo. Ke ne ke santse ke Mopalamente mo Palamenteng e yo o akanyang gore wela ka gore re tshwanetse re tshwaragane le ba botsogo re tshwanetse re oketse SoE, ka gore se dirile tiro ya ka gore kgang e ke ya botsogo, e bone ba e tlhaloganyang sone, se re rutile bolwetse, ga se a bo alafa, ga se a bo botoka. E bile re file batho dithata le dinonofo ka melao fokotsa, ga se a bo re sepe, se re rutile. Re ne re tshogile ya rona gore re ba hire, e nne dingaka, ba re tseele lantlha, jaanong re itsere motlhala, re ya go dira se se ditshwetso mo dikgannyeng tse. Ke rotloetsa thata gore tshwanetseng go lwantsha bolwetse jo. Kgang e ya SoE fa ba setse ba rile sengwe le sengwe se apere tshiamo, ga e a siama mo botsogong, ka gore ke ne ke bua gore tsweetswee, a re roleng jaaka Minister a bua a re, we didirisiwa tsa botsogo re di tsaya kwa ntle, re gweba le should be ‘Arm Ready’ to receive the vaccination. batho ba ba tswang kwa ntle ka dikgang tsa botsogo. Fa o ka ela tlhoko Modulasetilo, ga gona ope, lefatshe Modulasetilo, ke fetele mo go reng, ke itumela thata lepe, a multi sectoral organisation kana lefatshe fela le fa Tona a bua jaana, a supa gore ba batla go sekegela le tsepameng, le tlhwaafetse le le ka dirang any business tsamaiso ya botsogo kwa primary health care. Re ntse with a country in a State of Emergency, ga gona re e bua, e bile ke kile ka tlhalosa gore this resolution e lefatshe lepe le ka dirang jalo. Ke sone se o bonang o tswa kwa Alma-Ata, over 40 years ago. Go dumalanwe kare African Union (AU) le World Health Organisation gore, gore o kgone botsogo, ke gore o tsamaye ka yone (WHO), dithuso tsa rona di tla ka bonya, ka gore rona re tsela e. Ke a itumela gore Tona ga a lebala mandate mo seemong se se sa kgatlheng gotlhelele for business. wa gagwe gore re tshwanetse re fokotse kanamo ya SoE ga e kgatlhe ope fela, ke selo se re tshwanetseng to bolwetse jwa HIV/AIDS… do away with completely, re tle re kgone go tsepama mo MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Tshere, Honourable go lwantsheng bolwetse re dirisa mechanism e e teng. Reatile is asking for clarification. Ga gona ope jaaka ke bua, yo o ka eletsang to trade le Botswana, Botswana le le under SoE. SoE fela ka bo MR TSHERE: Let me rush pele two minutes, I will sone, se raya batho le mafatshe a sele se re golo fa go remember him. Ke ne ke re re tshwanetse go fokotsa na le uncertainty, we do not even know what is going to dikgang tse di amanang le bolwetse jwa HIV/AIDS, fa happen, nothing. Ke gore ga gona ope yo o ka tsenyang re ntse re lwantsha Corona. Re tshwanetse re lebagane madi mo kgannyeng e go nang le SoE. le go fokotsa palo ya bomme le masea a a tlhokafalang ka nako ya pelegi. Re tshwanetse re itebaganye le go Ke leboga thata gore Tona, a bo a bua ka tlhabololo- fokotsa dikgang tsa malaria, bolwetse tsa kgotlholo e molao e ke tsayang gore nna le ene re tsile go simolola tona e e ganang kalafi. Re itebaganye le dilo tse re le re tsepa matlho mo dikgannyeng tsa National Health ba botsogo, re se ka ra itebala. Ke a itumela ka gore Policy le Public Health... dilo tse tsotlhe tse, re di tshwaraganetse le organisations HONOURABLE MEMBER: Re tsepega. tse dingwe tsa botsogo tsa mafatshefatshe, le suppliers tse di re fang dilo tse re di dirisang mo go lwantsheng MR TSHERE: Ee, ka Sengwato o a a tsepa. Re tsepa malwetse a. matlho mo kgannyeng ya gore re baakanye dithulaganyo tsotlhe tse di amang Public Health Act, re kgone go Ke a itumela Modulasetilo gore, gompieno State of bona gore re a e baakanya go emaemana le diemo tse re Public Emergency (SoE) se a fela within two weeks ka neng re eletsa gore di ka bo di le teng ka nako ya SoE. st di 31 tsa March. Ke itumelela gape gore, ga gona ope Ke yone e re tlaabong re e itebaganya le yone. E bile mo Ntlong e yo o buang gore se okediwe. Seo ke selo ke tlhalosa fela ke feta gore kana Constitution Section se sentle thata, rotlhe re a bona gore se dirile tiro. Se re 17 e fa Tautona dithata tsa go dira SoE of some sort rutile bolwetse, jaanong re a bo tlhaloganya, re le ba for 21 days. Re setse re itse gore bolwetse jo bo tsaya botsogo re ya go tsepama in rolling out our interventions malatsi a le 10-14, o setse a na le malatsi a a siameng to tse re di itseng re di ithutetse. Ke tlhalose gore o bona contain bolwetse jo, ka gore ga bo tseye kgwedi kana kgang ya SoE Modulasetilo, re tshwanetse... 21 days, bo tsaya only 10 to 14 days. So ke tsaya gore MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Tshere, there is re siame. Ke tlaabo ke bereka thata le Tona wa Botsogo a request for elucidation from His Honour the Vice le Boitekanelo gore re baakanye melao e, go se ka ga President. ba ga tlhokafala gotlhelele mo tsamaong ya tsamaiso ya lefatshe le gore re tsene mo SoE, jaaka ke bua gore ga se MR TSHERE: I will give them two minutes golo mo go desirable. It is totally out of this world, batho kwa bofelong. Ke leboga thata gore, ga gona ope ba bangwe fa ba re lebeletse ba bona re le mo dilong fela

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tsa matshamekwane tse ba seng sure ka business or any bathong ba Mahalapye. Ka mafoko a le kalo rra, ke a investment e ba ka e tlisang mo lefatsheng le. leboga Modulasetilo.

Before ke tsenya bagarona ke re, medicine and bongaka bo HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR ikaegile thata ka integrity accountability, clear message TSOGWANE): Mr Chairperson, ga ke itse gore o ne a and confidence. Ga ke a tshwanela to doubt ngaka ya re neela sebaka se go akgela kgotsa jang? me, fa o bona ke belaela ngaka ya me go raya gore ga se ene sentlentle. Ka fa tshwanelong ke tshwanetse ke MR CHAIRPERSON: It is your slot. bone, ke utlwe le mafoko a gagwe a le clear, mo ke a MR TSOGWANE: Thank you. Ke a leboga Mr tlhaloganyang. Gompieno ke a tshwenyega, go na le Chairperson, ke ka bo ke buile ka nako ya ga Kablay. COVAX, it is a global access facility e e under WHO. Kablay ke ene ke neng ke tshwanetse gore ke mo sutise COVAX is spelt COVAX. Maloba fa re gorosa molemo fale, ka bomadimabe ke ne ke le mo meeting o mongwe. o tswa kwa India e le mpho e ke sa e nyatseng, ga ke nyatse molemo wa COVIDshield kana Astrazeneca. Ke tseye sebaka se selo sa ntlha, ke lebogele Tona ka Bagarona ba Botswana Medicines Regulatory Authority pego ya gagwe e a mekamekaneng le mathata a go (BoMRA) ke bone ba ka buang jalo, ke tlaabo ke lwantsha bolwetse jwa Coronavirus. Ke simolole fela o nyatsa. Fa ba re o a nyatsega, le nna ke tlaabo ke ka go supa gore Tona re go eme nokeng mo maitekong dumalana le bone, gompieno ga ke o nyatse. Maloba re otlhe a o a dirang, le Batswana ba go eme nokeng mo bone Mothusa Tautona a emelela fa Palamente e le on, maitekong otlhe a o a dirang, ba a a bona, ga re nyatse a ya go amogela molemo kwa airport, fa a tsena kwa sepe. Re leboga gape le ba ba re thusang ka tse ba re molemo o o tla o kwadilwe “COVAX,” o ne a bona le thusang ka tsone, le maiteko a Puso a go batla melemo. ene o kwadilwe COVAX, he did not ask gore ke eng Tautona o ne a bua maloba a bolelela setšhaba ka molemo o o kwadilwe COVAX, re itse gore COVAX is tsholofelo ya melemo, mme tsholofelo eo e diragetse a WHO facility, molemo ole ga o tswe kwa WHO. Ke jaaka e simolotse. Re solofetse gore melemo e mengwe eng re kgona go amogela dilo tsa mofuta o? Go raya e tlaabo e goroga mo dibekeng tsone tse. gore gompieno mongwe le mongwe o ka itlela ka boxes kwa airport a bo a di kwala COVAX, re bo re amogela. Ke supe gore lenaneo le mo tseleng la tshimolodiso Selo se ga se a siama, e bile go tshwanetse go nne le ya go kentela Batswana bolwetse jwa COVID-19, explanation. Ke batla Minister a tlhalose kgang e. Tsala re tshwaraganye rotlhe; boeteledipele jwa sepolotiki ya me yo ke mo ratang thata Honourable Mmolotsi, o go simolola ka Mapalamente, Makhanselara le ne a felela a tsietsega, a kwala mo maranyaneng a re boeteledipele jwa dikgaolo e bong Dikgosi. Thulaganyo “COVAX e dirile molemo, jaanong ke ready gore ke ka e re ya go e simolola mo bekeng e e tlang, ke tlaabo ke tla ka amogela mokento.” O kgona go bona gore o ne kopile bone ba Presidential Taskforce le ba botsogo go a dirisiwa ke gore, o ne a tsaya gore molemo o tswa tla go lekodisa Mapalamente in a caucus gore ba tsamaya kwa COVAX, ka gore o dumalana le WHO le its own fa kae, the rollout plan e ntse jang. Mapalamente e re fa credibility, only to find that molemo o ga o tswe kwa ba tswa fa... COVAX. Selo se Modulasetilo, ke a se kgala e bile ga MR CHAIRPERSON: Your Honour, Honourable re batle gotlhelele gore go lebege gore mo botsogong Mmolotsi is asking for clarification. ga re a tsepama re dira dilo ka tsela e e tlhamaletseng. MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ga gona clarification, nte ke Ga ke itse gore what informed kgang ya gore re kwale bue kgang e ke e wetse sentle batho betsho, e botlhokwa. molemo COVAX, re ntse re itse gore ga o tswe koo, e ne Ba tlaabo ba tsile gore ba tle go lekodisa Mapalamente e le seemo sa mofuta mang mo botsogong mo lefatsheng ka botlalo, gore le bone ba tswelele. Ba Presidential la Botswana. Taskforce ba tsweletse ka go lekodisa dikhansele tse Sa bofelo, ke batla go bua ka mafoko a a tswang kwa dingwe, ba ntse ba mpolelela gore tse di tsweletseng ka Mahalapye, ba Mahalapye ba a lela Tona. Ke itse go kopana ba ntse ba di fa ditekodiso tsa gore e tlaa re gore ke ntse ke lela ka gore sepatela se segologolo sa phelelong ba bone plan sentle, ba kgone gore batho kwa Mahalapye se dirwe primary hospital, gompieno re a dikgaolong ba ipaakanye. se dirisa mo Coronavirus and everything. Ba a lela gore Pele ga ke tswelela, ke supe gore ke lebogela mafoko Airstrip clinic e boe e bulwe 24 hours, re kgone to cater a Mopalamente Tshere a simolotseng ka one, a supa for batho bosigo. Tsweetswee! Ke kopo e e tswang kwa gore tota ga re a tshwanela gore re reetse dikgang tse

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dintsintsi. Fa re tla mo nakong e, ga re a tshwanela gore & Johnson, fa e sa goroge re ka mpa ra swa ra felela. re bo re ka tsietsa setšhaba ka dikgang tsa dipampiri Ga re ka ke ra tsaya boikarabelo jo bo ntseng jalo batho tse dintsi. Re tshwanetse gore re tsepame mo go ba ba betsho. Re tshwanetse ra nna le boikarabelo, ra sireletsa nang le boikarabelo, jaaka in this team le ba botsogo, setšhaba sa rona. Melemo eo kwa e tswang teng, ka re go na le dingaka. Re na le scientists go tswa kwa go kentilwe batho ba ba fetang population ya lefatshe university. Sengwe le sengwe se se gorogang fa, ga se la rona. tsene mo diatleng tsa mongwe le mongwe fela, go bo gotwe tsaya o ye go kenta, se tsamaya ka thulaganyo MR MMOLOTSI: Elucidation. Thank you Mr le lekgotla le le beilweng foo gore le lone le kanoke Chairperson. Thank you very much Vice President (VP). melemo, la BoMRA. So ga se sepe se re tshwanetseng Ke se ka ka go diela nako fela ke botse gore, a mme ga ra tshoga. Re tshwanetse ra itse gore fa go na le sepe o bone gore go ka motivate Batswana and even assure se se sa tsamayeng sentle, ba tla re itsise. Dingaka di them, fa rona re le baeteledipele, re ka etelela pele mo go teng, ba re ba tshephang. Jaanong fa gongwe go nna supeng confidence mo vaccine e? dikgang tse dingwe. Re a itse gore dikgang di a tswa MR TSOGWANE: Go ntse jalo sir. Confidence re mo dipampiring, mme o tla lemoga gore gone koo, ka e supa. The roll-out plan, ga re batle gore kamoso kwa melemo e mengwe e simologileng teng, ba setse e bo e le gore gatwe nnyaa, ba ba filwe privilege ka ba kentile ditšhaba tse di fetang dipalo tsa Batswana ka gore ke baeteledipele. Jaanong ba tsene mo laeneng melemo yone e. Re a itse gore go tlhagogile malwetse (queue) e go neng go tshwanetse gore go thusiwe ba re a mangwe, a e leng gore mo bosheng a itshupile gore itseng gore they are the risk group. So go na le plan e e bokgoni jwa melemo bo wela kwa tlase. Mme gone moo supang gore who are at risk, batho ba ba mo group ya fela, ga se mo go ka re emisang. the frontliners. Imagine fa e le gore go tla atwe jaaka Ba bangwe ba ba nang le alternative kana ba na le e ba bangwe, ke a itse gore ba ntse ba post mo, le nna mengwe melemo e ba neng ba setse ba na le yone, bangwe Mapalamente ba kile ba mpitsa, ga ke batle go ba botoka ka gore bone ba tla tswelela ka e mengwe. ba bua ka maina, ba re, “nnyaa, bogolo a go kentiwe Jaanong fa o sena o mongwe molemo o ise o goroge, rona fela. A go kentiwe rona Mapalamente.” Are we a ga o ka ke wa ema o bo o re nnyaa, ka gore go tulwe risk group? Are we the frontliners? A re ba e leng gore re go tlhagogile mogare o mongwe, bokgoni jwa molemo mo diphatseng kgotsa jang? Ga re tseye mokento ka gore bo ile kwa tlase, e bo e le gore wa re nnyaa, re tlaabo yo ke Mopalamente, yo ke eng? Re tshwanetse re latele re sa ka ke ra tswelela. Re tsere boikarabelo. Re na le thulaganyo e e tlaabong e dirilwe ke ba bongaka. Ga boikarabelo jwa gore fela jaaka ba ba neng ba kgonne ke ka ke ka iphitlhela ke raya yo mongwe ke re nnyaa, gore ba kente batho ba bone mme e bile fa e le gore go sutelela koo ka gore nna ke Vice President go kentiwe na le matlhasedi, ke matlhasedi a a ka nnang teng mo nna pele. Ga re itse gore kgang eo e tswa fa kae ka gore molemong mongwe le mongwe. O a itse gore gompieno ra re molemo o rotlhe re tla o tsaya, phelelong molemo jaana re na le dipilisi tse re di fiwang kwa dipateleng, o otlhe o tla re kenta, mme ga re ka ke ra suteletsa batho mme go na le dipilisi le melemo e mengwe e gotweng ba re bonang gore ke bone ba e leng gore they are at risk fa e le gore o mo seemong se se ntseng jaana, ga o ka ka tiro e ba e dirang, re bo re ba suteletsa kwa morago. ke wa tsaya molemo wa gore, like batho ba bangwe ga HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe o a o tshaba. ba tseye penicillin just because ke ka fa mmele ya bone e agegileng ka teng jalojalo. So ga se sengwe se se ka MR TSOGWANE: Ke tswelele, ke ba ba itayang batho nnang o kare molemo o botlhabetsi kana o dirilwe gore tsebe, ba a ba itse, ba tlaa ba bona. Ba tlaa ba lemoga o se ka wa nna le bokgoni. Batswana ba sosologe, ba itse le ka mekgwa le ka metsamao ya bone, ba tlaa ba itse. gore molemo o teng, re tlaa tswelela, e mengwe melemo fa e ntse e goroga, go tlaabo go ntse go kabakanngwa Jaanong ke tswelele Mr Chairperson ke re, fa ke bua melemo e ka go goroga ga yone. ka kgaolo, tota go molemo Tona gore re tsosolose go thusa batho ka ditlamelo tsa botsogo fa ba leng teng. Melemo e mengwe re a itse gore as we ordered jaana, Re na le mobile services tse di ntseng di re tshwere le ba re boleletse gore e tlile go tla the second quarter mo nakong e e fetileng, tse di botlhokwa thata gore di ya ngwaga one o, e mengwe e ya go goroga ka bo tsosolosiwe. Batho ba rona ba ba nnang kwa masimo le December, brands tse dingwe tse di rileng. Jaanong ga kwa merakeng, ba tlhokana le gore ba kale bana le go re ka ke ra ikaega fela gore nnyaa, re batla fela Johnson etelwa. Ba bangwe ba mo mafelong a Makgadikgadi a

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e leng gore tota go ya go goroga teng, go bokete. Ke MR MOTSAMAI: Ee, sorry Mr Chairperson, ga ke a dingwe dilo tse o tshwanetseng gore o di lebelele. go utlwa.

Gape ke batla go kopa Tona gore a lebe seemo se sa DR TSHABANG: Procedure. Ke batla go tlhaloganya bogologolo, sa dingaka tse di neng di eta, di tsamaya. formula ya gago ya 2:1 because ka fa e ntseng ka teng, Re ne re na le dingaka tse di neng di itsiwe, rona fa o kare rona e re baya ka fa mosing. O tlaabo o tsaya o bona re bidiwa maina jaana, re biditswe ka dingaka Domkrag two, o tlodisa, then Domkrag two. Fa re ya tse di neng di etela dipatela bogologolo. Ba tla gabedi, go feleletsa, go buile maDomkrag ba le six kana five, gongwe gangwefela mo dipateleng, ba tla go thusa. rona two. So formula ya gago e o reng o a e dirisa, ga e Mogopolo oo ka gore gompieno re na le dipatela tse di bereke. Do you have to always start with BDP, o bo o ya tlhabologileng, a re rotloetseng the private doctors, ba go feleletsa ka BDP? E setse e le bo 3:1, ga e sa tlhole ba kgonang gore ba tsamaye, ba etele mafelo a rona a a e le 2:1. So I think go botlhokwa gore o ye go lebelela kgakala, ba ya go thusa ka bongaka. Selo seo se ka re formula e because motho ga a ka ke a nna number two thusa. Kwa Tonota kwa go ne go na le dingaka tse di mo list ya UDC, go bo go felela gotwe ga a kgona go neng di kgona go tsamaya di ya go kenta batho, le rona bua. Kana kwa BPF, go bua motho a le mongwefela, re ne re kgona go tswa fa go iwa teng, go ya go folelwa UDC go bua a le mongwefela, BDP e bo e nna five, six ngaka ya private. A tla fela ka sefofane a tla go kenta, or seven. Ke raya gore I have observed this over time fa gongwe a tswa kwa bo Johane. A re tsosoloseng le and it shows gore ga le e dirise sentle, le e beile ka fa e tsone dingaka tsa rona tse di mo gae gore ba itlwaetse tla favour BDP ka teng. So I feel gore ka tsela nngwe, le the mobile services, outreach; go goroga kwa bathong. a re gatelela. You do not have to start with BDP all the Ke selo sa botlhokwa thata. time. Thank you.

Ke bo ke supa gore sepatela sa Rakops le sone, se MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Member, ga ke itse tlhokana le gore se shafadiwe. Maintenance, ke tlhola gore o batla ke go araba jang, because you have agreed ke bua ka one thata, kana ke dikole kana ke dipatela, o ka formula e, and rona re e run fela ka fa e ntseng ka botlhokwa. Ka mafoko a a kalo Mr Chairperson, ke a teng. leboga, tota e ne e le go gatelela ntlha e ya gore batho ba amogele mokento. Ke a leboga. DR TSHABANG: Application Mr Chairperson.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kentiwa pele re tle re MR CHAIRPERSON: Iketle, gakere o mphile an bone. assignment? Let me answer. Right now session e re leng mo go yone, five people from BDP spoke and then MR CHAIRPERSON: Thank you Your Honour. two from the opposition. Normally it is six and three Order! Order! Honourable Members. It is now 1715. I because it is two-one, two-one fa go na le nako. now call upon the Honourable Minister of Health and Wellness to reply to the debates. The other thing that you forget ke gore these sessions HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke gore tota rona re tla are timed. So, it does not matter how long the list is. tsamaya re bua? Like for instance; kwa BDP e tlaabo e le nine but only five spoke. You see what I mean? And then I have two HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr lists tse di tswang kwa Whips tsa lona. Ke kopa gore fa Chairperson. le na le issue gore ke mang yo o tshwanetseng go bua HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, rona re and when, do not talk to the Speaker, talk to your Whips. tla bua tota? Whips ke bone who suggest line ya lona. We have four parties; AP, BPF, BDP le UDC. There are four parties. MR CHAIRPERSON: Le a bo le batla gore ke le Jaanong we try by all means as Speakership gore fa tlogele jaanong... fa le bua le le bantsintsi jaana… go na le nako, the four parties should be represented. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, ke sale The formula gives us six and three and from that three, ke kopile procedure Palamente e simologa. we try as much as possible to make gore all the three opposition parties are represented. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai, I have called Honourable Dr Tshabang. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, let me HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, o hasoga fela. do this, can we hold this matter. If you have an issue, go na le General Assembly, you can talk about it there. At HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, nako e least we are acting on your recommendation. Jaanong a tšhaya. go se ka gatwe go na le mongwe yo o gatelelang yo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, kana mongwe, mafoko ao ga a siama. Ga re nke re gatelela ope, we try as much as possible to represent you. But nako e a tšhaya! fa e le gore gongwe we are at fault, then you have to HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson! correct us mo forum e e siameng, not in the House. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Dr Dikoloti, go HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa procedure Mr ahead. Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Ramogapi, I MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR think I have answered your question because you were DIKOLOTI): Mma ke go leboge Mr Chairperson. Ke querying gore ga o bitswe. leboge Batlotlegi gore…

MR RAMOGAPI: Nnyaa, ke e sele Mr Chairperson. MR MOTSAMAI: Point of order Mr Chairperson. Fa o nkemisa Mr Chairperson… MR CHAIRPERSON: I have referred you to your Whip! MR CHAIRPERSON: Information Technology (IT), mo tswaleng. MR RAMOGAPI: Ke e sele Mr Chairperson, ke bua ka kgang e sele fela. MR MOTSAMAI: It is very unfair!

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… DR DIKOLOTI: Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mma ke simolole ka go leboga batlotlegi botlhe ba ba ntseng MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Mr le tshono ya gore ba nkgwe dikgaba. Ke re ke a itse Chairperson, I am being muted, ga ke itse gore go gore dikgang tse tsa botsogo ke tse di amang Motswana diragala eng. O a nkutlwa jaanong? mongwe le mongwe mo dikhutlong tse nne tsa lefatshe. MR CHAIRPERSON: Ke a go utlwa sir. Ke itse gore batlotlegi botlhe ba ne ba eletsa go bua sengwe gore batlhophi ba kgone go utlwa gore kemedi MR RAMOGAPI: Ka bokhutshwane o bua sentle ya bone e ntse jang. Honourable Chairperson fa o re kgang e re e bue kwa General Assembly. Mathata a mangwe a a teng ke gore Modulasetilo, mo puong e fa ke e simolola, ke ne ke fa re le di number 2 in our list, go raya gore all the time ka supa gore rotlhe re na le ditsholofelo tsa gore re di number 2 ga di ka ke tsa bua. Fa ke neng ke le number batla gore re bone go diragala eng, mme ga se ka lepe 1 teng, ga ke a ka ka bua go bo gotwe fiwa Leader of fela gore ditsholofelo tse re nang le tsone di bo di ka …(Interruptions)… e le number 2. …(Interruptions)… se ke di kgone go tla ka nako e le one. Ke ne ka boa Jaanong ke re se o se buang ke boammaaruri gore ee, a gape ka amogela Mr Chairperson, gore re le lephata, re sekasekeng go bona gore a mme tota ka fa re dirileng paakanyano ya go dira ditogamaano tsa ditlhabololo, list ya rona ka teng, kana go raya gore jaanong go tlaa re amogela selo sengwe. Selo se re neng re se amogela fiwa batho ba le bangwefela fela ba e leng gore mo list ke gore certain things, for a while, have not gone as ke bone bo number 1 fela …(Interruptions)… well as may have been planned. Golo moo e ne e le mafoko a ntlha a ke lekang gore… ke leke go tsibosa le MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Ramogapi, let me Palamente e gore re a itse gore jaaka re ntse re tsamaya stop you there. Honourable Minister, continue. mo dikgaolong, re ntse re supa gore dilo dingwe ga di a MR MOTSAMAI: Procedure Mr Chairperson. Ke welelana ka fa re neng re solofetse kana ka fa re neng re sale ke kopile le ka mokwalo Palamente e simologa, na le tumalano le la ba neng ba di dira. Golo mo ga sepe pele ga mongwe le mongwe. se se ka bokiwang.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai o kopile Ke buile le mo puisanyong e gore re ya go tsaya dikgato eng? Re lebeletse chat, there is nothing in the chat. O dife go baakanya dilo tse. Mme e bile re kile ra kopa le kopile eng? one Mapalamente nako e ke neng re tlile kwano gore

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a ko e se ka ya re nako e re baakanyang, bangwe ba re tshwanetseng go se tlhalosa thata ke gore kana Marina baakanyang ka bone bao, ba ya to report kwa tlhakoreng is a main referral hospital. Marina le Nyangabgwe, ke kwa go bone ya tloga ya re kamoso go bo gotwe o ne o tsone our two main referral hospitals, batho ba leke go ka se ke o tlhoke ka gore yole ke wa ga ra semangmang. farologanya dilo tseo. Ke itse gore se se diragalang ke Ke simolola… gore batho ba kgona go ya Marina fela ka gore ke lefelo lengwe la botsogo, mme thotloetso ya rona e e leng teng MR MOTAOSANE: On a point of clarification. Thank e le gore batho ba ye kwa dikokelwaneng pele fa ba ka you Mr Chairperson, thank you Minister. felela ba ya kwa Marina. Ke bona gore o tsena mo dikarabong mme kana mo Kgang e a neng a e bua gape ya gore re atolose ditlamelo pegong ya gago, ga gona gope fa o buang ka projects tse dingwe tse e leng gore are offered kwa Marina, sekai; go le neng le rile le a di dira tse di saletseng kwa morago. na le Block 6 Clinic e e tshwarang balwetse ba sukiri. Sekai, Accident and Emergency Department kwa Golo moo ke dingwe tsa dikakanyo tse re leng lephata, Thamaga. Ga ke itse gore e bokgakala bo kae ka gore re tlaa nna re ntse re di dira. Go ya ka gore a go na le le a itse gore le ne le tshwanetse le ka bo le e dirile le availability ya facilities tseo tsa gore re atolose ditiro matlo a a neng a le 13? You only managed four, ga ke tseo. Re a itse gore thulaganyo e, e re thusa thata, e itse gore go tsamaya fa kae? Ke re le yone o fete ka yone fokotsa mosuke wa gore batho ba ka sukagana gone o e tlhatswe mongwame. kwa Sepateleng sa Marina, ba tseye ditlamelo tseo kwa Block 6 Clinic. DR DIKOLOTI: Tanki Mr Chairperson. Ke ne ke santse ke re ke lebagane le ya ga Honourable Modukanele. Tota Kgang e nngwe e Honourable Member a neng a e e ne e le go leboga fela gore o rotloetsa thata strategy tsosa gape ke ya gore, o akanya gore ditlamelo tse di se a bonang gore re le lephata re se tsere, se a dumelang tshwanang le bo ultra sound kana diagnostics tse di gore fa re ka se sala morago, go ya ka fa aneng a se akaretsang bogolo jang Imaging Diagnostics, re bone atolosa ka teng, ruri re tlaa nna le maungo fela a rotlhe gore le tsone re di tsaya re di isa kwa dikokelwaneng re tlaa felelang re nyenya ka one. Ke batla gore ke mo dingwe fela tse di gautshwanyane gore batho ba kgone tshephise ka gore kgang e ya projects kana gore batho go bona ditlamelo. Ke mogopolo. Re le lephata, sengwe ba nne le dikago kana ditlamelo, ke kgang e e leng gore se re neng re se ipeetse pele ke gore Sepatela sa Sir kgaolo ya gagwe ke nngwe ya tse di amegileng. Go kile Ketumile, re ne re solofetse gore by June 2020, re tlaabo ga nna le Mid-Term review wa NDP 11 e mo go yone go re setse re se butse gore batho ba ka tsaya ditlamelo neng ga supafala gore go tlaa nna le thuso nngwe kwa mo go sone ka gore se na le didirisiwa tsa maemo Maunatlala e go tlaa nnang le sepatela se go nang le a tlhwatlhwa, tse di tlaa kgonang gore di imolole a donor o o thusang gore se kgone gore kwa bofelong mokgweleo sepatela sa Marina kana dipatela tsotlhe ka se tlise ditlamelo kwa bathong ba kgaolo eo ya Lerala- go farologana, ka gore ke sengwe sa dipatela tse tota Maunatlala. Sengwe se re eletsang gore re se bone rotlhe di fang care at a very high level, mme COVID e ne ya ke gore fa nne madi a le teng, mongwe le mongwe o ne diragala and disrupted a lot of what we had planned. Ga a ka bona se a se eletsang. Ke sone se o bonang re nna re a tlogela plan e, ke dumela gore e tlaa re fa go ntse re ntse re kopa mo go bone gore a re lekeng ka bojotlhe go tsweletse, re tlaa nna re ntse re ba lekodisa gore kwa gore projects tse re setseng re di neetse batho, a di dirwe bofelong, re kgone go felela batho ba bona ditlamelo ka di fetswe ka nako gore re se ka ra felela re dirisa madi nako e e tshwanetseng. a a feteletseng gona le a re neng re a ipeile pele gore re tlaa ya go a dirisa. Golo moo kwa bofelelong go felela Kgang e nngwe e a lekang go e bua, e a kileng a go dira gore re dirise madi a a fetang a re neng re a botsa dipotso thata kgapetsakgapetsa ka yone kwa ipeetse. Golo mo go bo go kgoreletsa gore dikgaolo tse Palamenteng, ke kgang ya Gaborone West Clinic. dingwe gore di kgone go bona ditlamelo tse di neng di Kgang e e teng, re dumalane le ene gore go tlaa isiwa ka di bona ka madi ao. ngaka kwa Gaborone West Clinic, mme kgwetlho e e leng teng ke gore ga go na bodiredi gompieno. COVID Go na le e nngwe ya ga Honourable Greeff. Tota e tsere bodiredi e bo kgaogantse thata tota mo re setseng Honourable Greeff o ne a bua fela a simolola thata re thibathiba fela ka fa re ka thibang ka teng. Re mo segolobogolo ka go tlisa dikakanyo gore o solofela solofeditse gape gore e tlaa re fa staff se nna teng, re gore dilo dingwe re ka di dira jang. Ke dumalana le ene tlaa leka gore re kgone go thiba diphatlha tseo and fulfil gore dipalo di godile, Gaborone o godile. Sengwe se ke ditsholofetso tsa rona mo go bone.

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Kgang ya gore, e bile ka gore it cuts across Mapalamente (NCDs), e mo go sone. Ke sone se o bonang re ntse re ka go farologana, go ya ka fa ba neng ba akgela ka teng, atolosa ditlamelo go ya ka go farologana gore re leke ke kgang ya go dira dikokelwana 24 hours. Kgang eo go tlhatlhoba batho go santse go le early ka gore dilo e mo maitlamong a rona re le Puso. Re itlamile gore tse dingwe go nna botoka fa o di tshwara go santse go re ya go oketsa ditlamelo tsa rona tsa botsogo tse di le early. Batlotlegi fa ba ka ela tlhoko, bogolo jang our leng teng gore di dire (operate) 24 hours. Se batho ba Integrated Community Based Health Strategy, se ya go tshwanetseng ba se tlhaloganye ke gore, kana gore o re thusa gore dilo tse dingwe re kgone go di tshwara go kgone go nna le 24 hour clinics, ke gore go bo go na le le early ka gore fa o di tshwara go le early, o bo o di bodiredi, jo re senang jone gompieno, jo re solofetseng alafa go le early, go ya go re bolokela a lot of costs, go gore e tlaa re fa go ntse go tsweletse, bana ba ntse ba na le gore re kopane le tsone di setse di keketse, ka gore aloga mo dikoleng, re kgone go ba tsaya, re ba tsenye. fa di keketse jaanong, ga e nne gone sentle. Jaaka ke ne ke bua mo pegong ya me Modulasetilo, gore go na le koketsego ya bana ba ka tshwara 1456 ba e Re amogetse jaaka o kile wa botsa gape mo Palamenteng ntseng e le temporary employees, ba ba neng ba re thusa ka yone kgang ya gore go na le shortage ya space kwa mo dikgannyeng tsa COVID, tse re dumelang gore we Marina, kwa o fitlhelang batho ba tlhakane e le ba bong are going to absorb them into the system gore re kgone jo bo farologanyeng. Golo moo is a shortfall e e leng go atolosa ditlamelo tsa botsogo kwa bathong. gore ga re e eletse le rona. Due to limited space, we have to work with what we have go bona gore batho Kgang e ya emergency kwa Marina, e botlhoko. I have kwa bofelong, ba tlaa felela ba tsaya botsogo jo bo been to emergency kwa Marina, fa ke tsena teng, ke lekanetseng. fitlhetse e le gore palo ya dingaka tse ba tshwanetseng gore ba dire ka tsone, they are operating at less than 50 Kgang ya go rutuntsha bongaka mo dikgannyeng tsa bo per cent of what they should have. Therefore, you can Oncology, re a e amogela, mme re tsweletse re na le imagine the burden those doctors have to go through. plans. Re nna re ntse re ntsha opportunities tsa go ya Ga se yone tota, go utlwisa botlhoko. Re lela selelo fela sekoleng, gape re e tla re rotloediwa ke ba mafatshe a rotlhe ka gore ga go na gore gone mo seemong se se mangwe gore Batswana ba tswelele ba ye go ikoketsa ntseng jalo, ke ka utswa ngaka kae kwa e leng gore ke dithuto, mme ba boele gae, ba tle go re thusa gore kwa ya to disadvantage batho… bofelong, re kgone go isa botsogo kwa bathong.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, Kgang ya ga Honourable Lesedi, ke tsaya gore le ene Honourable Mmolotsi is asking for clarification. e ne e le kgang fela ya go lebogela the service that is offered by this ministry, e re tsweletseng ka go nna re DR DIKOLOTI: Nnyaa, iketle pele ke nne ke push. O ntse re netefatsa gore batho botlhe ba bona botsogo ya go fitlhela e le gorethey operate ka dipalo tse di kwa jo bo lekanetseng. O ne a bua a supa gore kana kgang tlase. Ga go na gore tota re ka thusiwa ke eng gore re ya melemo e a tshwenya mo dipateleng kana mo kgone ka gore batho ga ba yo gompieno, bone ba e leng dikokelong ka gore Batswana ba a sokola, o fitlhela gore are qualified to fill in those positions. motho fela a fiwaprescription, a bo a taboga le chemists and pharmacies, a sa kgone go bona dipilisi tseo Sengwe se se ntseng se re thusa botoka Modulasetilo, sentle. Re a itse gore there is that shortfall, mme golo ke gore kana re ntse re na le ditumalano le mafatshe gongwe go dirilwe ke gore kana we had a disruption mangwe. Re na le ditumalano le mafatshe a Cuba le ya COVID-19 e e leng gore lockdowns were disrupting China ba ba nnang ba romela specialists gore di tle go delivery ya melemo mengwe. Ke dumela gore dilo tse re thusa lebaka le le rileng. Ngogola go dikile go sa tsotlhe e tlaa re fa go ntse go sinoga, go baakanyesega, nna sentle ka lebaka la COVID, go ne ga kgoreletsa re kgone go di tlhamalatsa ka gore go na le botsipa kana metsamao mengwe e go feleletseng go taolola gore botlhale bongwe jo re bo dirisang re kopane le makgotla batho bao ba tle go re thusa gore re kgone to offer this a a farologanyeng to procure gore re kgone go… service. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, Ke a itse Honourable Member gore kgang ya cancer, ke Honourable Molao is asking for clarification. nngwe ya malwetse a a gapang matshelo a rona thata. Ke kgang e nngwe e e leng gore jaaka ke ne ke bua HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Chairperson, ke sale ka strategy sa rona sa Non-Communicable Diseases ke kopile leng?

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DR DIKOLOTI: Ke eng ke sa kgorometsenyana, ke DR DIKOLOTI: Okay, ee rra. Ke tsaya gore ya ga Rre tlaa ba neela the last 10 minutes bogolo. Ke dumela gore Rakgare e arabesegile. dilo tse tsotlhe, strategies tse re reng re tla ka tsone, tse re dirisang experienced organisations such as United Kablay; ke tsaya gore Honourable Member kgang e re Nations International Children’s Emergency Fund kile ra e buisana, mme ke batla go go netefaletsa gore (UNICEF) will help us gore re kgone to avail melemo to mo kabong madi ya gompieno, sepatela sa Letlhakeng our people because this procurement e tlaa re thusa gape se mo teng. Se tlaa diragala, ke tsaya gore batho ba gore re kgone go bona melemo e at good and affordable Letlhakeng le bone ba tlaa itumela. Sepatela se se prices. Ke dumela gore dipotso tsotlhe tsa bone di tlaa diragala ka gore, se sale se nna teng mo ditogamaanong felela di arabesegile. tsa rona le mo Mid-Term Review se ne sa tswelela ka go nna teng. Go ne ga nna le makgwerenyana in terms of Kgang e nngwe e a neng a e bua ya public education, the scoping, ke dumela gore pego e ke neng ke e neelwa bogolo jang a itebagantse le COVID-19, ke kgang e ke gore jaanong go setse go feleleditswe. Go setse fela re leng Puso, re le setšhaba, re tsweletse re leka go e gore sepatela se se simolodisiwe. diragatsa. Ke batla gore batlotlegi ba e nyalanye thata le our Integrated Community Based Health Strategy Kgang ya Personal Protective Equipment (PPEs), kana e e akaretsang le bone gore ba nne le maikarabelo a we have strengthened the District Health Management boeteledipele, ba nne bontlha bongwe jwa go re thusa Teams (DHMTs) across the country. Ke nngwe ya go laola kanamo ya mogare o. A ope a se ka a nna, “nna maitlamo a Puso e e leng teng e, re buile gore we are ga di nkame wa COVID.” Mongwe le mongwe e nne going to decentralise our services, we will strengthen monaleseabe. Ke atle ke bue kgapetsakgapetsa ke re, the DHMTs. Ke buile gore Coordinators are at Director bogolo jang fa o le moeteledipele, fa letsatsi le phirima, level, golo moo ke maemo fela a a kwa godimo, and we o ipotse gore ke kgalemetse ba le kae kana ke rotloeditse have empowered them. Even the budgets di mo go bone, ba le kae gore ba thuse mo go kganeleng kanamo mogare ga gona ka tsela epe e o tsileng go fitlhela selo se tlhaela, wa COVID. Fa rotlhe re ka tsaya maikarabelo a, ra nna the COVID marshals kana flag bearers ba COVID, o ya motho a na le maikarabelo a go diragatsa gore batho go fitlhela e le gore kwa bofelong, thuto e e a atologa, ba kgone go bona ditlamelo. Ke kopa gore batlotlegi mongwe le mongwe o nna le yone, ba tlaa felela ba itse ba lomagane thata le Coordinators mo dikgaolong tsa se se re tshwanetseng. Mafatshe a a supileng taolo e e bone, batho ba kgone go bona dithuso. Ke buile gape botoka ya COVID, ke mafatshe a o fitlhelang e le gore gore, we have even deployed public health specialists, the communities are a lot more involved in the control of at least to 11 of these DHMTs. Golo ke gone go atolosa the spread of this disease. ditlamelo go ya kwa bathong.

Kgang ya 24 hours, ke tsaya gore ke e arabile. Kgang Honourable Tshere, Modulasetilo wa the oversight ya ga Rre Rakgare, e a utlwala. Ke kgang e re e buileng committee, ke lebogela support ya gago. O buile thata, mme re dumela gore e tlaa re fa gone madi a ntse dikgang di le dintsi tse di neng di le affirmative, mo go a nna teng, go siama, ke dingwe tsa dilo tse re tlaa di reng tota re tshwere ka natla. Kana tiro e ga se ya rona tsibogelang go bona gore batho ba Mogoditshane ba bona ditlamelo tsotlhe tse di tshwanetseng. Ga re felele re le nosi, as an oversight committee ke maikarabelo a fela foo ka gore re nna re ntse re bua le donors, re bone lona gore le re thuse dikgang tsa botsogo. Dikgang tse go nna le donors tse di thusang ka go aga dikokelo mo ke tsa rona rotlhe, setšhaba se tshwanetse go itse gore go mafelong a a farologanyeng, mo e reng fa ba re thusa ka na le komiti ya Palamente e e okametseng dikgang tsa go aga dikokelo, rona re tlisa didirisiwa le bodiredi gore botsogo, tse motlotlegi a tshwanetseng go ba kgone go isa ditlamelo kwa bathong. nna monaleseabe thata mo go tsone. Kgang ya gagwe ya specialists, ke tsaya gore e O ne a botsa kgang ya melemo e e gorogileng, e a reng arabesegile fa ke bua gore ga re na se re nang le sone, e ne e na le sticker sa COVAX. Ke potso e a kileng a e mme bonnyennyane jo bo leng teng, re ntse re bo mpotsa, mme ke tsaya gore nako ya teng ke ne ka leka oketsa… go mo fa karabo. Kana molemo o re o amogetseng wa MR CHAIRPERSON: Minister, according to my time Covishield, ke mengwe ya melemo which is listed in you have seven minutes left. O se ka wa lebelela e e kwa the COVAX facility. Go setse metsotso e e kae foo Mr ele, ba go jetse nako. Chairperson?

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MR CHAIRPERSON: …(Inaudible)...

DR DIKOLOTI: Five minutes, okay. Ke nngwe ya melemo which is listed in the COVAX facility, ga ke itse gore sticker sa gore go kwadilwe COVAX se ka tlisa ketsaetsego fa kae on the box e e tswang kwa lefelong where there is a facility for that. That should rather be a plus, to show that go raya gore lefelo leo supplies a facility e e ka fa tlase sa lephata le le okametseng …(Inaudible)… la WHO le e leng gore… Ke dumela gore e ya sticker tota ga se kgang e e kalokalo.

O buile dikgang tse dintsi Honourable Member, o ne o kopa batlotlegi gore re ko re lemoge ba bongaka. O a itse gore ba bongaka ga o tsene fela kwano o bo o tla o re o ngaka, go na le lephata le le ba okametseng le le netefatsang gore for you to practice you need to maintain certain ethics tse nna le wena re di dumalanang e bile re itse botoka gore se ba se re neelang ke sone e bile se maleba. Gape, we have a lot of structures in place tse di netefatsang gore gotlhe mo go tlaa tlang in regards to dikgang tsa botsogo, is very credible.

Kgang ya gago ya 24 hours clinic, ke e ke akareditseng gore go mo maitlamong a Puso. The BDP Government has pledged gore e tlaa oketsa 24 hours clinics, gore ba ise ditlamelo kwa bathong.

Vice President (VP) o ne a leka go gatisa gore gotlhe mo re go tshwereng ke gone. Ke lebogela kgakololo ya ga VP, e re ntseng re leka go e atolosa bogolo jang mo baneng ba Batswana ba ba rutegileng ba le kwa mafatsheng. Ba na le dithuto fela tse di rileng tsa bongaka, re bone gore re ka dira jang le bone gore motho fa a tsile gae, a se ka a tla gae fela, a tle gae gape a tle go neela setšhaba se se mo dirileng se a leng sone, like giving back to the community. Ba tlise bongaka joo VP, kwa mafelong ka go farologana. Ke ba neele metsotso pele ga ke sutisa.

MR CHAIRPERSON: It is time for you to move, you are left with three minutes.

DR DIKOLOTI: Fa go ntse jalo Modulasetilo, ke tsaya gore batlotlegi tse dintsi tse dingwe re tlaa di bua kwa ntle ga Palamente, re netefatse gore kwa bofelong batlhophi ba rona ba bone botsogo jo bo itekanetseng. Le Puso jaaka e itlamile gore e tlaa netefatsa gore Batswana botlhe ba bona botsogo jo bo itekanetseng, re kgone go boloka matshelo.

Mr Chairperson, I move that the sum of Seven Billion, Eight Hundred and Ninety-Five Million, Four Hundred and Sixty-Four Thousand, One Hundred and Forty Pula (P7,895,464,140) under the Recurrent Budget for Organisation 1100, be approved and stand part of the Schedule of Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021, and that a Development Budget in the sum of Four Hundred and Thirty-One Million, Three Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pula (P431,350,000) be approved and stand part of those estimates for the financial year 2021/2022. I so move.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, we are now doing the votes and make sure that everybody is open to vote.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow √ Honourable Gare Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama √ Honourable Kablay √ Honourable Kapinga √

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Honourable Kekgonegile √ Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela √ Honourable Khama √ Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo √ Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake √ Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Matsheka √ Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi √ Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile √ Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando Honourable Segokgo √ Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang Honourable Tshere √ His Honour The Vice President √ Honourable Tsogwane

Hansard No 201 39 Wednesday 17th March, 2021 ORGANISATION 2500 - MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY: Committee of Supply

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Honourable Brooks is online Mr Speaker.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Brooks.

MR BROOKS: Mongwame.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Brooks a re ke aye.

Honourable Brooks √

…Silence…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, here are the results of your voting, Aye 50, No 1, Abstain 1, Absent 11. The Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to. ORGANISATION 2500 - MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY

MR CHAIRPERSON: We move to the next item. Honourable Members, note this and underline, that 2 hours 25 minutes have been allocated to this organisation and I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to reply to the debate at 16:40 hours tomorrow and the question will be put at 17:10 hours. Honourable Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Honourable Kagiso Mmusi, the floor is yours. MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Good afternoon Mr Chairperson, ke ne ke botsa gore ke na le nako e kae to do my speech?

MR CHAIRPERSON: We are only left with 3 minutes to...

MR MMUSI: Ke raya the whole of it.

MR CHAIRPERSON: It is 20 minutes. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ntse o ja mo nakong ya gago.

MR MMUSI: Mr Chairperson, I have the honour to present to this Honourable House, my Ministry’s 2021/2022 Recurrent and Development Budget proposals. Before presenting my budget proposals, please allow me to give an overview of the major activities undertaken by my ministry during the 2020/2021 financial year as well as progress achieved.

MINISTRY HEADQUARTERS - 2501 Legislative and Policy Development and Reform

Mr Chairperson, the ministry legislative and policy development programme is intended to improve access to justice and regulate legal services through the review, amendment and enactment of necessary and relevant legislation and policy. With respect to this, in my last address I informed this Honourable House of the development of a Sex Offenders Registry Bill, the amendment of Legal Practitioners Act and the development of a Sentencing Policy (Alternatives to Imprisonment). The Sentencing Policy (Alternatives to Imprisonment) is expected to be completed by April 2021.

I am pleased to report that this Honourable House passed the Sex Offenders Registry Bill in December 2020. Advanced consultations are ongoing with the Law Society of Botswana and other key stakeholders on the Legal Practitioners Bill, 2020. This Bill will among others, address certain public concerns about non-professionalism by some members of the legal fraternity and enhance disciplinary structures and processes for the profession.

Mr Chairperson, I am pleased to inform the House that during the forthcoming financial year, the Criminal Procedure and Evidence Act will be holistically reviewed in order to enhance its effectiveness and relevance to current times.

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The Penal Code is also being amended to complement the Sexual Offenders Registry Bill by enhancing penalties for sexual and other gender based violence.

Mr Chairperson, during 2021/2022, I shall also be presenting a Bill to this Honourable House on Covert Operations and Intrusive Investigations in compliance with Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Recommendations on anti-money laundering and other counter-financing of terrorism. The FATF Recommendation in question requires…

MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Order! Order! Ke nako ya go tšhaisa. At this juncture, I will call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker. As we have come to the end of today’s Order Paper, I move that this House do now adjourn.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:05 p.m. until Thursday 18th March, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.

Hansard No 201 41 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr. T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. D. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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