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THE FIRST MEETING OF THE FIFTH SESSION OF THE ELEVENTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 26 NOVEMBER 2018

MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO. 192

DISCLAIMER Uno cial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an uno cial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Gladys K. T. Kokorwe PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Kagiso P. Molatlhegi, MP South

Clerk of the National Assembly -- Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly -- Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel -- Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) -- Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP --President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) --Vice President

Hon. Dr P. Venson-Moitoi, MP. (Serowe South) --Minister of Local and Rural Development

Hon. O. K. Mokaila, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Transport and Communications - Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. N. E. Molefhi, MP. (Selebi Phikwe East) - Administration

Hon. S. Kgathi, MP. (Bobonong) --Minister of Defence, Justice and Security -Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. (Serowe West) - Tourism Hon. B. Arone, MP. (Okavango) --Minister of Basic Education Hon. D. K. Makgato, MP. (Sefhare - Ramokgonami) --Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs

Hon. O. K. Matambo, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Finance and Economic Development

Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation

Hon. M. N. Ngaka, MP () --Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology Hon. V. T. Seretse, MP. ( - ) --Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development -Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. T. Mabeo, MP. ( - ) - Development Hon. Dr A. Madigele, MP. (Mmathethe - -Minister of Health and Wellness Molapowabojang) - -Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Energy Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP (Mmadinare) --Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Hon. T. Olopeng, MP. (Tonota) --Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development

Hon. P. P. Ralotsia, MP. (Kanye North) --Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security

Hon. B. J. Kenewendo, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Hon. B. M. Tshireletso, MP. (Mahalapye East) --Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development Hon. M. M. Goya, MP. (Palapye) --Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry -Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. D. P. Makgalemele, MP (Shoshong) - Development -Assistant Minister, Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP (Shashe West) - Technology

Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP (Serowe North) --Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Development

Hon. G. B. Butale, MP (Tati West) --Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. T. Kwerepe, MP (Ngami) --Assistant Minister, Basic Education

-Assistant Minister, Land Management, Water and Sanitation Hon. I. E. Moipisi, MP (Kgalagadi North) - Services -Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP (Chobe) - Administration

Hon. F. S. Van Der Westhuizen, MP. (Kgalagadi South) --Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Security MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

Names Constituency

RULING PARTY ( Democratic Party) Hon. S. M. Guma, MP Tati East Hon. C. De Graaff, MP Ghanzi South Hon. P. M. Maele, MP Lerala - Maunatlala Hon. L. Kablay, MP - Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP Boteti East Hon. J. Molefe, MP Mahalapye West Hon. K. Markus, MP Maun East Hon. P. Majaga, MP Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP Francistown West Hon. B. H. Billy, MP Francistown East Hon. E. J. Batshu, MP Nkange Hon. S. Kebonang, MP Hon. K. S. Gare, MP Moshupa-Manyana Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP Specially Elected OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. Adv. D. G. Boko, MP (Leader of Opposition) Gaborone Bonnington North Hon. G. S. M. Mangole, MP Mochudi West Hon. A. S. Kesupile, MP Kanye South Hon. N. S. L. M. Salakae, MP Ghanzi North Hon. Dr. T. O. M. Mmatli, MP South Hon. S. M. Ntlhaile, MP Jwaneng -Mabutsane Hon. M. I. Khan, MP Molepolole North Hon. Kgosi Lotlamoreng II Goodhope - Mabule Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP Selebi Phikwe West Hon. S. O. S. Rantuana, MP Ramotswa Hon. K. M. Segokgo Tlokweng Hon. B. M. Molebatsi Mochudi East (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP Francistown South Hon. Maj. Gen. P. Mokgware, MP - Hon. N. N. Gaolathe, MP Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. S. Kgoroba, MP Hon. Dr P. Butale, MP Gaborone Central Hon. H. G. Nkaigwa, MP Gaborone North (Independent Member of Parliament) Hon. T. Moremi, MP Maun West TABLE OF CONTENTS FIRST MEETING OF THE FIFTH SESSION OF THE ELEVENTH PARLIAMENT MONDAY 26 NOVEMBER, 2018

CONTENTS PAGE (S)

SPEAKER’S REMARKS...... 1

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 1 - 8

QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE...... 9 - 11

STATEMENT Statement by the Chairperson of the Parliamentary Caucus on Women...... 12 - 15

Response to the President’s Speech Motion (Resumed Debate)...... 16 - 36

ANNEXURE I...... 37 - 54

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Monday 26th November, 2018 (i) The number of youth companies that have benefited from the reservation on Micro Procurement (Local THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. Procurement Scheme Presidential Directive CAB (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) 19 (B) 2013), from October 2016 to October 2018 is 514, comprising of mainly goods and services P R A Y E R S like cultural performances and creative art.

* * * * (ii) One Youth Development Fund (YDF) beneficiary has benefited from the reservation on maintenance, SPEAKER’S REMARKS at a tender sum of P18 558.40 as most of the ministry facilities are occupied on lease rental MR SPEAKER (MR MOLATLHEGI): Order! basis. Honourable Members. Dumelang batlotlegi. (iii) 4 373 youth companies have benefited from the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Dumela Mr Speaker. price preference (Local Procurement Scheme MR SPEAKER: Dumelang batlotlegi. Presidential Directive Cab 19 (B) 2013) from October 2016 to October 2018. In an endeavour to HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Dumelang Mr Speaker. promote procurement from youth companies, 71 per cent of all tenders for Now TV Content have MR SPEAKER: Ke ne ke re ke le gakolole sengwe re ise been awarded to youth companies. re simolole tiro ya letsatsi. Fa procession ya ga Speaker e tsena mo Ntlong e, go a didimalwa. Ke tsamaiso; setho (iv) The lowest amount awarded to a youth supplier sa Ntlo e. Go dirwa jalo. Mo Dipalamenteng tsotlhe mo has been P868.56 for catering services, and the lefatsheng fa le ka ela tlhoko, ba tlotla setho sa bone. highest tender amount awarded was P1 159 746.30 for the period October 2016 to October Jaanong a re direng jalo batlotlegi, e se ka ya re re na le 2018. This was a works tender for the supply and baeng ba tloga ba re leba ka go sele. Ke a kopa. delivery of pre-fabricated offices for Ramotswa QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER and Molepolole Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Development (MYSC) district YOUTH COMPANIES THAT BENEFITED FROM offices. I thank you Mr Speaker and I thank you THE MINISTRY OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, Honourable Reatile. SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT MR REATILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr MR M. R. REATILE (SPECIALLY ELECTED): Speaker. Ke leboge Tona ka karabo ya gagwe. Tona o asked the Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and sena go re fa karabo e, ga o ise o ele tlhoko gore kwa Culture Development to state the names and number of ministry wa gago, go na le dikompone e ka tswa e le youth companies that have benefited from his ministry kwa district kana mo maphateng tse di felelang di ntse including parastatals and independent departments di bona sengwe, mme di boelela kgapetsakgapetsa? under Government Policy Reform of 2015: Affirmative A golo moo ga go bontshe gore go ka tswa go na le Action in favour of youth on the following: kgolagano nngwe mo officers tsa gago le dikompone tseo tsa banana? (i) Reservation on Micro Procurement (Local Procurement Scheme Presidential Directive CAB MR OLOPENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga 19(B) 2013); Honourable Member. Gone re a leka gore, re leke go rotloetsa bana ba rona being our officers gore ba (ii) Reservation on Maintenance (Permanent leke go thusa dikompone ka go farologana ba ntse ba Secretary, MIST Savingram - MIST 2/761/1 VI di godisa. Ke rona re di fileng madi gore di simolole (71) OF 7 May 2014); dikgwebo tse dipotlana. Ke e fa sekai, re ne re na le (iii) Price Preference (Local Procurement Scheme catering requirements fa re host ka July kwa President’s Presidential Directive CAB 19(B) 2013); and Day Competitions, go ne go batla company e tona, (iv) he should further state the lowest and highest mme ra rotloetsa bana ba rona gore ba di kgaoganye ka amount awarded for each tender. ditokitoki gore ba kgone go fa ba ba ntseng ba simolola ba, mme le bone re ntse re ba rotloetsa gore quality e MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, tshwanetse gore e tsewe tsia. So, re a leka gore ba se ka SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR ba boelela mo komponeng e le nngwefela nako le nako. OLOPENG): Thank you Mr Speaker. Gone go tlwaelesegile rraetsho gore, gantsi o tlaa fitlhela

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e le gore bana ba bangwe ba ipoleletse gore ngwaga le MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR ngwaga ba tla kwa ministry ba tlile go kopa dithuso, ba PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT le bangwe felafela. Ba fiwa ngwaga o, go ya go tsena (MR MABEO): Thank you very much Mr Speaker and dingwaga tse five. Jaanong fa re ba raya re re nnyaa, a good afternoon. ko le goleng re thuseng ba bangwe, ba bo ba tsaya gore My ministry has been implementing the Government go raya gore bone ga ba thusiwe. Ke tsaya gore o e tle o Policy Reforms pertaining to youth empowerment. bale mo maranyaneng o bona ka fa ba roganang ka teng. Since April 2017, the total amount awarded to youth Ke a leboga. companies is P8 845 617.66.

UPDATE ON THE AUDIT UNDERTAKEN ON (i) On tenders awarded to youth companies, 245 DDT COLLEGE OF MEDICINE tenders, worth P 4 170 172.35 were awarded to youth companies, benefiting from reservation of MR H. G. NKAIGWA (GABORONE NORTH): Micro Procurement (Local Procurement Scheme asked the Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Presidential Directive CAB 19 (B) 2013). Science and Technology: (ii) My ministry has awarded maintenance projects (i) to update this Honourable House on the findings worth P 4 674 765.62 to 27 youth companies in of the audit undertaken by the Tertiary Education line with MIST Savingram-MIST 2/761/1 VI of Council on DDT College of Medicine as promised May 2014 on reservation of maintenance. by the Honourable Minister in the last Meeting of Parliament; In addition, 277 young persons with vocational skills in construction are currently engaged by the (ii) to state what has been done to rectify the issue of ministry for maintenance services in 38 brigades. students’ handbook; and To date the total expenditure on their remuneration is P 5 150 528.00. (iii) if he is aware that students are being victimised academically and graded fail and discontinue for (iii) Mr Speaker, two youth companies out of the 27 raising issues that affect their studies. engaged in maintenance projects have benefited from the price preference (Local Procurement Later Date. Scheme Presidential Directive CAB 19 (B) 2013 YOUTH COMPANIES THAT BENEFITED FROM and, THE MINISTRY OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR (iv) The highest tender awarded to youth companies PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT was P3 498 745.02 and the lowest amount being P196.00. MR M. R. REATILE (SPECIALLY ELECTED): asked the Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity I have attached a list of the companies that have and Skills Development to state the names and number benefited from my ministry asAnnexure 1. I thank you of youth companies that have benefited from his ministry Mr Speaker. I thank you Member of Parliament. including parastatals and independent departments under Government Policy Reform of 2015: Affirmative WORKERS ENGAGED BY BCL LIQUIDATOR Action in favour of youth on the following: AT BCL PHIKWE AND TATI NICKEL MINES

(i) Reservation on Micro Procurement (Local MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE Procurement Scheme Presidential Directive CAB WEST): asked the Minister of Employment, Labour 19(B) 2013); Productivity and Skills Development to state the number of workers engaged by the BCL Liquidator at both BCL (ii) Reservation on Maintenance (Permanent Phikwe and Tati Nickel mines and to: Secretary, MIST Savingram - MIST 2/761/1 VI (71) of 7 May 2014); (i) clarify if the said workers are unionised with Botswana Mine Workers Union or any trade union; (iii) Price Preference (Local Procurement Scheme Presidential Directive CAB 19(B) 2013); and (ii) explain whether there is any collective labour agreement between the liquidator and any trade (iv) he should further state the lowest and highest unions and how labour issues are dealt with if amount awarded for each tender. there is no collective labour agreement; and

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(iii) explain the position of the law regarding (b) the employee’s claims for payment liquidations and industrial/labour relations. as a result of work performed during holidays within a period of twenty-four MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR (24) months prior to the insolvency or PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT termination of employment; (MR MABEO): Thank you once again Mr Speaker. (c) the employee’s claims for any amount Mr Speaker, information received from the office of the due to him in respect of other types of liquidator of BCL shows that a total of five hundred and paid absence for a period not less than forty-six (546) former employees have been engaged three months prior to the insolvency or by the liquidator, being five hundred and ten (510) to the termination of employment; and employees who were employed by BCL mine and thirty-six (36) employees who were employed by Tati (d) such severance benefits or other terminal Nickel Mine. benefits as the employee is entitled to.

(i) At BCL mine, seventy-four (74) out of the four The process of liquidation is being managed within the hundred and seventy-seven (477) employees perimeters of this section. I thank you Mr Speaker. are unionised, while at Tati Nickel mine, the employees are not unionised. MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a leboga Honourable Minister. Ke botse (ii) According to Section 2 of the Trade Disputes Act gore, are you aware of any meetings between Botswana 2016, a Collective Labour Agreement means: Mine Workers Union and the liquidator, whether there is any working relationship between the two? Are they (a) A written agreement relating to terms and meeting regarding employees who are unionized? Are conditions of employment concluded between they updated about their conditions of service and so one or more organisations; or forth?

(b) Where no organisation exists, the MR MABEO: Thank you Honourable Member. I am representatives of the employees concerned not aware of any meeting. Like I have said, we rely on duly elected and authorised by them and one information from the liquidator’s office and I am not or more employers or an organisation. aware of such information. I thank you Mr Speaker.

On the basis of this section, the liquidator is MR KEORAPETSE: Further supplementary. not an employer, as such there is no Collective Honourable Member, the reason why I put this question Labour Agreement between him and trade unions. He is executing his functions in ke gore, kana there are complaints from employees, terms of the Insolvency Act Chapter 42:02, because there is no Collective Labour Agreement and workers are engaged in their capacity between him and Botswana Mine Workers Union, there as creditors. The BCL liquidator relies on are challenges. For instance; I had brought up an issue existing labour laws to deal with issues of of non-compliance with Mine Quarries Machinery Act, employment. 6.1 appointment. The other thing is that, how reliable is information from the liquidator because last week, (iii) Issues pertaining to employees’ benefits arising the liquidator gave Honourable Molale inaccurate from the insolvency of workers are covered by information, which he has acknowledged this morning Section 91 (a) of Employment Act Cap 47:01. that he was given wrong information and that he was This section provides that: attending to the matter. How reliable is really that (1) In the event of an employer’s insolvency, liquidator and do you have anybody to rely on besides an employee’s claims arising out of his the liquidator? employment shall be payable out of the MR MABEO: Mr Speaker, with regard to the reliability assets of the insolvent employer before non- of the information coming from the liquidator’s office, privileged creditors are paid their shares; what I can say is, that is the only office that is dealing (2) The protection referred to in Subsection (i) with the liquidation. Whatever information that we get shall extend to the following claims; or any questions that we are being asked, we refer to him to give us the answers. (a) the employee’s claims for wages up to three months prior to the insolvency or Again turning to Honourable Member, ke tsaya gore to the termination of employment; Rre Keorapetse, we would really also like you to come

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on board. Whenever there is information that you (iii) Mr Speaker, I cannot state the names of the know, please avail it to us so that we do not feed this companies since it is confidential information. Honourable House with inaccurate information. However, in terms of the numbers, five companies did not meet the criteria. The other question e neng Mopalamente a e botsa ke gore, they are always getting complaints, whether (iv) The lowest figures and highest figures for tenders we have an office gone kwa Phikwe. Yes, we have a vary from one organisation to the other. However, regional office kwa Phikwe that time and again if there taking into consideration all the tenders awarded for all the parastatals, the lowest and highest figures are queries of any workers in Phikwe, they go to that were P1 640 and P3 108 355.68, respectively. I office and liaise with the headquarters here in Gaborone. thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker. MR REATILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. YOUTH COMPANIES THAT BENEFITED FROM Honourable Minister a re thuse gore lebaka le le itsang PARASTATALS UNDER THE MINISTRY OF gore she can avail maina a dikompone tse e leng gore INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY are dealing with parastatals ke eng, ka gore ga se sepe MR M. R. REATILE (SPECIALLY ELECTED): se se confidential? asked the Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry if MS KENEWENDO: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you the following parastatals applied the Government Policy Honourable Member. Unfortunately we cannot divulge Reform of 2015: Affirmative Action in Favour of Youth: the names of these companies. It is within our rights to protect the companies that we are dealing with in this (i) Botswana Development Corporation (BDC), Affirmative Action Policy. I thank you Mr Speaker. Local Enterprise Authority (LEA), Botswana Investment and Trade Centre (BITC), Citizen MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary. Exactly Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA), Honourable Minister, what are you protecting these Botswana Oil Company (BOL), Botswana Bureau companies against? A similar question was asked to of Standards (BOBS), Gambling Authority (GA), the Minister of Finance and another Minister, the list of SPEDU; and if so, to state; companies was provided by the same Government you are representing. What is special about parastatals in the (ii) the names and number of youth companies that Ministry of Trade that the names of companies cannot met the requirements set out in the Policy and be provided? What are you protecting them against? benefited; MS KENEWENDO: Thank you Mr Speaker, thank (iii) the names and number of youth companies that you Honourable Member. If you so wish, it is public failed to meet the requirements; and information, you may check it with the Registrar of Companies. I thank you Mr Speaker. (iv) she should further state the lowest and highest amount awarded for each tender. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr Speaker.

MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, Honourable Reatile, o se ka INDUSTRY (MS KENEWENDO): Thank you Mr wa dira jalo rraetsho. Speaker. MR REATILE: No, point of order Mr Speaker! (i) Mr Speaker, the parastatals under my ministry Nnyaa… are applying the Government Policy Reform of 2015: Affirmative Action in Favour of Youth. The MR SPEAKER: Order! Honourable Reatile! Botswana Oil Company does not fall under my Honourable Reatile, order! Order! Honourable Reatile! ministry, therefore, I cannot confirm if they are Order! Order! Hey! Honourable Reatile. applying the Policy. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… (ii) Mr Speaker, I am not in a position to divulge the names of youth companies that met the set MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, order! Order! requirements since the information is confidential. Honourable Mokgware, order! Honourable Mokgware, However, in terms of numbers, a total of 88 youth Order! Honourable Members, order! Fa ke tsena fa, ke companies met the set criteria and benefited from ne ke le gakolola ka tsamaiso ya Ntlo e. Ga ke itse gore the policy. ke le gakolole ka tsela e e ntseng jang gore le e sale

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morago. Fa ke ema ka dinao ke re order, ke solofela Basic Education curriculum across all levels. A multi- gore le ntheetse gore ka reng. Jaanong fa le tswelela disciplinary and multi-perspective approach to learning le dira jaaka le dira jaana, go na le tsela e nngwe ya is used that draws content from various subjects from Standing Order e gotweng ke le gakolole ka yone. Ga the Social Sciences and Humanities curricula to sensitise ke sa tlhole ke batla go e dirisa. A ko re tsweleleng le learners on civics. dipotso, di santse di le dintsi batlotlegi. Le filwe karabo, fa le sa dumalane le karabo ya teng, le a itse gore le dira In addition, our schools have introduced subject based jang. Ga le lwe. clubs from the Humanities including Social Sciences, Development Studies, Geography and History. These HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… have been established as part of the Co-curricular programme to fill identified gaps in the curriculum. MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ke go reeditse. Le ene o a Learners carry out a variety of activities involving itse gore Matona a mangwe a ntse a araba dipotso tse. political awareness through inter-school debate Jaanong fa le ne le sa lwe, ga ke itse gore le lwelang competitions, which look at a variety of issues affecting eng ka gore information yone e teng, le tlaa e bona fa Botswana society and the rest of the world. le e batla. The student administrative structure also promotes HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… Civic Education through the election of Student Representative Councils (SRC), Prefects and Class MR SPEAKER: Welang dibete batlotlegi. Honourable Monitors. Members, welang dibete. Tota ke ka bua eng le Tona le kua jaaka le kua jaana! Ke raya gore Honourable Reatile To augment school based efforts, all stakeholders in o gaketse jaaka o kare motho a jetswe podi. governance, such as us the political leadership, civic community, religious and cultural interest groups, Non- HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… Governmental Organisations (NGOs), human rights MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Nnyaa a ko o didimale. groups and worker’s unions must be encouraged to Honourable Minister, a wa re ga go na ka tsela e o ka provide adequate public education on issues relating thusang batlotlegi ka maina ao kana o tlaa ba a batlela to Civic Education, in particular our individual ga o na nao, kana jang? A ko o tlhalose kgang eo sentle. responsibility as members of society. I thank you.

MS KENEWENDO: Thank you Mr Speaker. It is very STATUS OF WATER DELIVERY BY WATER interesting to see how passionate everyone is in this UTILITIES CORPORATION House. We do appreciate that level of passion when MR S. M. NTLHAILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): it comes to the involvement of our youth companies. asked the Minister of Land Management, Water and With that said Mr Speaker, we can furnish the list Sanitation Services to apprise this Honourable House of companies in totality that have worked with the on the status of water delivery by Water Utilities Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry, and all their Corporation and to further state: parastatals. I submit Mr Speaker. (i) the type and capability of the leak detection system MR SPEAKER: Maina ao a tlaa tla batlotlegi. A re that has been installed if any; tsweleleng Honourable Members. (ii) the integrity and accuracy of the leak detection INTRODUCTION OF CIVIC EDUCATION IN system; SCHOOLS (iii) the integrity and accuracy of the billing system; MR S. O. S. RANTUANA (RAMOTSWA): asked the Minister of Basic Education whether he will consider (iv) what remedies are proposed to reduce the burden introducing Civic Education as an extra-curricular of paying for such water supply losses; and subject in schools considering the level of political awareness in our society. (v) what steps will be put in place to engage consumers in addressing future water leakage problems. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR KWEREPE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER my ministry has no plans at present to introduce civic AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): education as an extra-curricular subject. However, my Thank you Honourable Speaker. Mr Speaker, total water ministry does ensure that students are socially aware production for the second Quarter of 2018/19 stands at through Civic Education, which is an integral part of the 28,693,480m³ against total demand of 27,235,106m³

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nationwide. The figures indicate a surplus of 1,458,374 (iii) The billing system used by Water Utilities m³, as compared to a deficit of 308,675 m³ recorded in Corporation (Systems Application Products (SAP) Quarter One of the same fiscal year. However, despite is accurate and of integrity. It is a system employed the surplus realized, water supply situation for the locally and internationally by utility service country varies from district to district, and is mainly providers for customer billing and customer influenced by the type of water sources in the different accounts management. Before billing rates and geographical locations of the country. tariffs are applied on a productive environment, they are thoroughly tested on a quality assurance From the production figures stated above, Ngamiland, environment before being applied on a live North East, Kgatleng, , Boteti, Borolong and environment. However, the accuracy of bills Kgalagadi are some of the areas which experienced themselves, and not the system may be influenced supply deficit. The areas are supplied mainly from by factors such as accuracy of the meter readings groundwater sources, and most of the wellfields and due to human error or malfunctioning of meters. boreholes have been depleted due to lack of recharge as a result of drought spells the country has been continuously The systems track and keeps history of all experiencing. The situation is exacerbated by high water transactions undertaken in it in real time and the losses as a result of dilapidated infrastructure. transaction history is permanently kept, which is important to addressing queries. Only authorized (i) Water Utilities Corporation (WUC) has two online users have secure access to specific transactions web-based water leakage detection systems used related to their duties. in its primary transmission lines in some parts of Francistown and Gaborone cities. The systems are (iv) Two types of losses exist, these are System known as Zednet and Primayer. The systems use a Losses and Losses inside the premises beyond the Global System for Mobile Communication (GSM) meter. System Losses are managed by pressure functionality to monitor the extent of leakages. regulating valves using Zednet and Primayer in primary transmission and distribution lines. No system exists to detect leakages in the No technological systems are used for leakage distribution network including in household or detection in secondary transmission and network yards premises beyond the meter. Customers can lines. WUC encourages the public to report such detect leakages in their homes by closing all taps leakages whenever they are realized, and the and checking their respective meters. If there are WUC repair crews will be deployed accordingly. no leaks, the meter will stop moving when all taps To further reduce the problem of water losses; are closed. Government has undertaken a program of rehabilitating dilapidated distribution networks; (ii) The integrity of the systems is high since the recently completed ones being Palapye and leakage system servers are cloud hosted by Mahalapye. The next will be Kanye and Thamaga. external service providers who are experts in the field of data hosting and are International Service For losses beyond the meter, customers are Providers (ISP) not only hosting for WUC but for encouraged to be vigilant and to always check other Water Service providers worldwide. The if their meter is not moving even when all their Corporation has been using Zednet since 2015 taps are closed. and has been happy with the security of its data. Primayer system has recently been acquired this (v) Mr Speaker, the Corporation has stakeholder year and has good reputation from Ethikweni in management programs through which it engages Durban and City of Cape Town. Based on the water users/customers on various water issues above, WUC believes that these systems are of including those that relate to leakages and efficient high integrity. water use. The Utility has Education Programs for schools, customer days for the public as well as The detection systems are very accurate since the radio and TV programs. To make it easier for the results are consistent with evidence on the ground public/customers, Water Utilities Corporation has as they have been able to accurately record and introduced USSD (Unstructured Supplementary detect all leaks since their installation. The results Service Data) such as *186#, WUC Application obtained from Zednet during Somarela Thothi (WUC App) and online services, all with project were accurate. Primayer was installed in functions that enable the customer to interact with June 2018 and so far, the Corporation is satisfied WUC to report leaks, submit their water meter with its performance. readings, check their bills and make payments at

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the comfort of their mobile phones, homes and MR MZWINILA: I thank you. We do have a plan; offices. A toll-free number is also available where a privatization. The first thing is the supply of water, customers who prefer calling are assisted in all which is priority number one. Number two priority is respect. WUC has also gone all out in the various distribution. Number three is changing or refurbishing local media to educate customers on water and dilapidated pipes, then number four is installing the wastewater services and related challenges and leakage detecting system. We cannot install a leakage remedial measure expected from them. I thank detecting system until we have gone through all the you Mr Speaker. priorities. It is more important for us to change old and dilapidated pipes before we install the system. I thank MR NTLHAILE: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Tona ka you Mr Speaker. karabo ya gago e e tlhatswegileng. Tona, a o a lemoga gore kgang e ya go tlhoka didirisiwa tse di ka lebelelang MR SPEAKER: A re boeleng kwa question 1. metsi ka fa a tshologang le go senyega ka teng, e felela e baya Batswana ba le ba ntsi ka fa mosing ka gore CONSTRUCTION OF BOUNDARY WALLS Water Utilities e palelwa ke go laola metsi e bile e felela AT SOME PLOTS WITHOUT APPROVAL BY e dirisa dipalo go tsaya madi mo Batswaneng, tse ba GABORONE CITY COUNCIL imonang monwana ka gore there are no figures in their system tse di supang gore metsi a a senyegang ke bokae? MR H. G. NKAIGWA (GABORONE NORTH): Go pala eng gore Water Utilities e dirise systems tse di asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural dirisiwang ke dikompone tse dingwe, tse di dirisang Development to explain: metsi a a bokete fela jaaka a re bonang Water Utilities e a dira? Sekai; Debswana, ba na le… (i) how the boundary walls at plots 56018, 56147, 54409, 56273, 56128, 56086 and 55841 were MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa Honourable Ntlhaile, botsa constructed without approval by the Gaborone dipotso tse di khutshwane. City Council Physical Planning Committee; MR NTLHAILE: …system e e siameng? A o lemoga (ii) why the walls cannot be brought down as they gore Water Utilities e tona, e tsaya madi mo Batswaneng ka tsela e e sa siamang, bo ntsi jwa Batswana ba kolota have been illegally constructed; and bo P100 000 ka metsi a ba sa a nwang? Tota golo moo, (iii) who owns these plots and how did they acquire o dira eng o le Tona go tlhomamisa gore Water Utilities ownership of the 7 open spaces measuring 8 ga e duedise Batswana metsi a ba sa a nwang? hectares. MR MZWINILA: I thank you. In terms of the systems and transmission lines because we have two types of Later Date. lines; transmission and distribution; n all the transmission PEOPLE LIVING WITH DISABILITY IN lines, the system is installed. In the distribution; there is primary and the secondary depending on the size. BOTETI EAST CONSTITUENCY Anything above 250 millimeters (mm) in diameter, the system is installed because of financial resource MR S. LELATISITSWE (BOTETI EAST): asked constraints and the logistics of installing the system in the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and every single pipe, we are unable to do that. The example Public Administration to state: you are talking about is a company or private entity that is just servicing one or two towns. Nationally, we are (i) the number, gender and social status of people unable to do that on the scale that our pipes are laid out. living with disability in Makgaba Settlement; I thank you Mr Speaker. (ii) what Government assistance programmes are HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. extended to these individuals;

MR SPEAKER: Ya bofelo Honourable Ntlhaile. (iii) if it is true that a certain young man was given MR NTLHAILE: A mme o na le plan Tona, because crutches ten years ago and they have never been these things can be implemented ka stages? Do you have replaced; and a plan gore Water Utilities should be able to manage the water that it is distributing to people, rather than to (iv) whether the Letlhakane officer is sufficiently charge Batswana metsi a ba sa a dirisang? Why can serving people living with disability in the Boteti you not implement the leakage detection system using East Constituency; and if not, how he will address stages, rather than applying it nationally at one time? the situation.

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ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL MR SPEAKER: Supplementary ya bofelo. AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION (MR SHAMUKUNI): Thank MR MOLEBATSI: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa you Mr Speaker and good afternoon. Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a leboga Tona. Go bo le thusa, a ga se gore le thusa ka a quota Tona gore fa e (i) Mr Speaker, there are 15 people with disabilities in le gore digole di ka tswa di na le palo, lona le lebeletse Makgaba settlement. Out of the 15, nine are males gore… while six are females. 12 of these people have physical disabilities while three have psychiatric MR SPEAKER: Banalebogole… conditions. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Inaudible)…

(ii) Mr Speaker, of the 15 people with disabilities in MR SPEAKER: O a utlwa Honourable Molebatsi, go Makgaba settlement, eight receive food baskets dirisiwa lefoko la banalebogole. and seven are beneficiaries of the Disability Cash Transfer allowance. MR MOLEBATSI: …banalebogole, o tlaabo o lebeletse a quota ka percentage go ba thusa. Could you (iii) The young man in question was assisted with please come out clear gore a o dirisa a quota kana o ka crutches in June 2018 and has been recommended thusa mongwe le mongwe yo gotweng o mo thuse? for fitting with an artificial limb. He is currently booked for the Assistive Device Prosthesis MR SHAMUKUNI: Nnyaa, ga go na sepe sa a quota (Artificial lower limb) fitting at Mahalapye Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Re lebelela ba Hospital for May 2019 due to a long queue. re kgonang gore re ba thuse and then we just do it as we are supposed to do. Thank you. (iv) Mr Speaker, as indicated previously in this House on the 12th of November 2018, when question STATUS OF BOGOSI IN MAKGABA VILLAGE Number 44 by the Honourable Member was responded to, the Letlhakane officer responsible MR S. LELATISITSWE (BOTETI EAST): asked the for disability has been transferred, and currently Minister of Local Government and Rural Development: Boteti does not have a rehabilitation officer. (i) to apprise this Honourable House on the status of However, a Health Care Auxiliary (HCA) officer “Bogosi” in Makgaba village; has been assigned to provide medical rehabilitation services, while the social rehabilitation services (ii) when Makgaba was confirmed a village; are provided by the Social and Community Development (S & CD) office in the Boteti Sub- (iii) who was appointed Kgosi, date of appointment District Council for the entire district including and when the appointee will be paid; Boteti East Constituency. I thank you Mr Speaker. (iv) to state the names of individuals who were MR NKAIGWA: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr identified as “Dikgosana tsa Tetlanyo” and when Speaker. Tona, mme gone ka molao o teng, o o dirilweng they will be paid; and ke Puso ya gago, ke eng batho ba ba tshelang ka bogole ba sa thusiwe ka madi kana dithuso tse le solofeditseng (v) what procedure is followed when installing the gore le tlaa ba thusa ka tsone kgwedi le kgwedi, one Kgosana at Makgaba. maP300? Ke eng the other people who are disabled ba ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL sa bone madi ao gotlhelele? GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS TSHIRELETSO): Thank you Mr Speaker. MR SHAMUKUNI: Tanki Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. We have an assessing team like the social (i) Makgaba Settlement was recognised in 2017 and workers, they do this with the district village leadership Bogosi is at the level of Headman of Arbitration. jaaka Dikgosi and Makhanselara. They are able to determine gore mo go bao ba ba nang le bogole, ba ba (ii) Makgaba was declared a recognised Remote Area ka thusiwang ka madi ke bafe because bonalebogole ga Development Settlement Tertiary IV in 2017 go reye gore motho o a bo a sa kgone, bangwe ba na le through Presidential Directive CAB 11(A)/2017. bogole but are able to fend for themselves. Thank you Mr Speaker. (iii) Mr Kesekile Rebagago was appointed Headman of Arbitration for Makgaba on the 6th May 2018, MR MOLEBATSI: Supplementary. which is also the effective date for his payments.

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(iv) Mr Speaker, there are no other individuals who MR E. J. BATSHU (NKANGE): asked the Minister were identified as “Dikgosana tsa Tetlanyo” as of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services to Makgaba settlement does not have any other state: wards except for the main ward. (i) the number of pending applications for land (v) I am not aware of the procedure of installing allocation throughout the country per sub land Kgosana at Makgaba settlement as it is the board; prerogative of morafe at the ward level. Thank you Mr Speaker. (ii) the age analysis for such applications e.g. the number of those that have been pending for 1, 2, MR MAJAGA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker, 3 years, etc; thank you Minister. I want to ask you Minister; what is the problem with you as a ministry, taking so long to (iii) the causes of delays in land allocation in Botswana; appoint Dikgosi especially in Central District Council because if you can go to places like bo Tsokatshaa, it is (iv) to confirm if there is a crisis in Botswana with almost two years, even in bo Gweta, it is almost three respect to land allocations and if so; years, there is no Kgosi who has been appointed there. (v) what measures he shall introduce as a matter of What is the point in you taking a longer time without urgency to address the situation. appointing people to Dikgotlana? MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER MS TSHIRELETSO: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. E ya AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): kwa Makgaba tota ga re a diega, ke ka jaaka ke re o beilwe ka 2017 mme re setse re simolotse go mo duela. Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, the number of Tse dingwe tse ke dumalana le Honourable Member, go pending applications for land allocation and age analysis raya gore ke ye go batla information sentle, gore mme per sub land board is a lengthy document, but I will just gone go ka bo go diragetse eng. Gompieno tota ga ke summarise and give the Member all the information. a tshwara sepe Rraetsho Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Essentially, the number of applications at the present Palamente. Ke tlaa mmatlela information. Ke a leboga. moment is at 1,294,362 across 44 sub land boards. The age analysis is also shown and we will provide the INSTALLATION OF HEADMEN OF information. We have waiting lists in terms of more ARBITRATION IN SOME WARDS IN MOSU than one, two, three years and five years and we will VILLAGE also provide that information in a table format to the MR S. LELATISITSWE (BOTETI EAST): asked the Honourable Member. Minister of Local Government and Rural Development: (i) The age of analysis is also shown in the table; (i) to apprise this Honourable House on the progress of installation of Headmen of Arbitration in the (ii) The causes of delay are many and varied but the wards of Herero, Madanyika, Bungu, Kopo and predominant ones are; Ntalabgwe in Mosu village; and a) High cost incurred in land servicing. (ii) when they will be paid. b) Long processes in land acquisition for ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL expansion of settlements. GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MS TSHIRELETSO): Mr Speaker, the Headmen of c) It is a requirement that Strategic Environmental Arbitration for Bungu, Herero and Ntalabgwe wards Assessment (SEA) is undertaken prior to were appointed on 13th June, 2018, while those for demarcation of land. The land board usually Madanyika and Kopo Wards were done on 15th June does not have enough funds to pay for the 2018 and 4th July 2018 respectively. assessment.

All these Headmen of Arbitration were paid effective d) Reluctance by ploughing fields owners to from their dates of appointment. I thank you Mr Speaker. relinquish their fields to the land board for village expansion citing low compensation QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE rates. PENDING LAND ALLOCATIONS e) Shortage of physical planners and funds at THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY district councils to prepare and design layout.

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(iii) I cannot say we have a crisis in Botswana with respect to land allocation. This is because out of the 1,294,362 pending applications, only 505,600 applicants do not have plots or have not applied in other sub land boards. In other words, in the waiting list 60 per cent of the people should not be there. Only 40 per cent should actually be on the waiting list and we are going to remove that 60 per cent because the Land Policy clearly states that they should not be in the application list. Therefore, I can say my ministry has challenges to meet the demand for land by Batswana even though the supply does not always meet the demand.

(iv) Mr Speaker, my ministry came out with several measures as a matter of urgency to address the situation which include among others:

a) Development of the Public Private Partnership (PPP) Strategy in Land Servicing;

b) Commencement of the revised Tribal Land Act which will compensate tribal land at market value;

c) Out sourcing of preparation of detailed layouts.

d) Collaboration with other stakeholders such as the district council to expedite the preparation of layouts.

Also Mr Speaker, to develop an average plot, to provide access road, water and sewage, the average cost is P120,000 for a single plot. If you factor in supplying electricity, the average cost per plot is P140,000 per plot. Thus, the amount we have calculated in order to provide serviced plots to the uncleaned waiting list is P155,323,440,000 which is unattainable, given the financial situation of this country and the Government. I thank you Mr Speaker.

NUMBER OF PENDING APPLICATION ACROSS LAND BOARDS

Waiting Waiting Waiting List More List More List More Waiting List Sub Land than 5 than 3 than 2 More than 1 Total Land Board Boards years years years year Waiting List Motokwe 347 2390 3353 4559 5243 Mogoditshane 116696 116722 117262 117305 117356 Molepolole 37072 43641 47143 52065 52872 Kweneng Thamaga 34938 42193 43502 48839 49756 Lephepe 538 1743 1950 2364 2774 Letlhakeng 4381 9174 10055 15755 18551 Lentsweletau 54055 62052 64814 71120 71871 Hukuntsi 150 2508 3522 4386 5447 Kgalagadi Tsabong 736 4318 5485 6726 7583 Moshupa 19528 32527 47565 48444 51277 Kanye 13859 13887 25635 26471 27806 Mabutsane 40 4063 4241 4498 4825 Kanye Mmathethe 8816 23183 25030 25690 25922 Phitshane Molopo 352 1469 1670 1807 1870 Maokane 2093 3269 3579 3751 3812 Tati Tati 34478 40098 47493 50372 57286

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Waiting Waiting Waiting List More List More List More Waiting List Sub Land than 5 than 3 than 2 More than 1 Total Land Board Boards years years years year Waiting List Malete Malete 1184 10152 12919 20484 20496 Tlokweng Tlokweng 3 52898 53869 55326 55911 Rolong Rolong 6709 6903 14727 16276 17469 Chobe Chobe 6 15395 16240 17249 17250 Sehitlhwa 83 11133 11916 12420 12821 Maun 11470 29741 34065 40271 44635 Seronga 29 1227 1924 2317 2757 Tawana Gumare 1566 4702 5462 6008 6411 Shakawe 121 1907 3107 3795 4154 Nokaneng 10 119 345 504 657 Artesia 1349 10160 10881 11801 12684 Mathubudukwane 2262 5775 6197 6749 7669 Kgatleng Mochudi 1352 39980 40545 42241 42932 Oodi 2237 108499 108791 111559 112608 Ghanzi Charleshill 23 6005 6817 7783 8216 Serowe 8044 27756 29285 30502 31241 Palapye 30806 78431 79674 84355 87923 Mahalapye 13004 34936 36167 37135 38112 Sefhare 1902 8358 9772 11095 12117 Shoshong 1638 7565 8743 9510 9819 Bobonong 3019 16720 17799 18636 19163 Tonota 6119 103017 104325 105941 107283 Ngwato Letlhakane 5019 23104 24071 25327 27844 Mmadinare 1681 11202 11978 12695 13492 Rakops 251 2593 3178 3635 4007 Paje 281 13961 14186 14365 14550 Tutume 2462 12847 13880 14614 15578 Marapong 1 23742 24143 24721 25028 Nata 399 10094 10676 11284 11703 Maunatlala 476 3482 4084 5015 5581 Total 431,238 1,083,251 1,168,712 124,765 1,294,362

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MR GUMA: Supplementary. Have you done a land STATEMENT audit in the past sir, just to determine the extent of the problem? STATEMENT BY THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE PARLIAMENTARY CAUCUS MR MZWINILA: I thank you Honourable Member. ON WOMEN The component four of Land Administration Procedures, Capacity and Systems (LAPCAS) is actually land audit. CHAIRPERSON OF THE PARLIAMENTARY We are in the process of finalising the matter in terms of CAUCUS ON WOMEN (MS TSHIRELETSO): LAPCAS. It is actually a Motion that is on the floor of Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me start by first congratulating Parliament, but to answer you Honourable Member, part Honourable Dorcas Makgato for a successful event of LAPCAS is actually to do that land audit. One of the yesterday, concerning the same issue that I am going to things we have found in the land audit, as I said, is that talk about. Congratulations my dearest sister. 60 per cent of the people should not be on the waiting HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Applause!)… list. I thank you. MS TSHIRELETSO: Mr Speaker, the 25th of MR MOLEBATSI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga November marked the beginning of the 16 Days of Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a leboga Activism Against Gender Based Violence. For far too Tona. Tona, a wa re ga le mo crisis fa e re batho ba long, impunity, silence and stigma have allowed violence ikopetse ditsha ba bo ba tsaya bo 20 years o ise o ba fe against women to escalate to pandemic proportions plot? Ba bangwe e re fa ba tshotswe mo lelwapeng ba le which have left women, girls and even men across the l2, o bo o ba ntsha… globe devastated and stripped off their dignity as human MR SPEAKER: O nne mokhutshwane Kgabo. beings. This has led to an outcry for action which has seen even the Sustainable Development Goals coming MR MOLEBATSI: Ee, ke mokhutshwane. O bo o ba up with a specific target on ending violence against ntsha from that list ba tsena mo 60 per cent o re ba na women and girls. le plot, o sa re ba le 12 ba na le plot e le nngwe? A wa This year’s Global theme is; “Orange re ga le mo crisis go ntse jaana? E bile gape batho ba the World: #Hear Me Too-End Violence Against bangwe ba ba bewang, ba bewa fa ba neng ba sa batle Women and Girls”. teng, e le gore ba tlile go tsaya lebaka ba bo ba itlhoboga ba ikopela go sele, o bo o palelwa ke gore o ba busetse The theme calls for engagement and dialogue to kwa ba ka bong ba ikopetse teng kwa go maleba. Ke a unpack, understand and devise means of completely leboga. ending this monster. Every person, individually and collectively needs to raise their voice and be heard. MR MZWINILA: I thank you Honourable Speaker. As Women’s movements, survivor advocates, human rights I said, we do not consider it a crisis, because LAPCAS defenders, activists, policy makers and the general has assisted us to actually see that 60 per cent of the public need to create opportunities for dialogue and people who are applying for land already have plots. engage one another, if we are to win this battle. Therefore, only the 40 per cent of the 1,294,362 are actually the ones that require plots. As I have said, the As we pause to reflect on the plight of many women issue about whether we have a crisis or not, also you around the globe, I call on all of us to take a moment and need to bear in mind the financial costs of servicing one reflect on the part we individually play to end Gender plot, which I said is P130,000 for a single plot. Based Violence (GBV). Let us use these 16 days from 25th November to 10th The other issue why I say we do not have a crisis is that, December and even beyond to come together and make there are multiple land ownership tenures in this country. our voices heard like we have never done before. At the There is the residential, commercial, agricultural and end of the 16 days, we should have been able to ponder most Batswana want two or three types of land tenure. and exchange ideas of defeating GBV in all its forms. They want a house or residence where they stay. They want one where they come from, their home village GBV is one of the most prevalent human rights violations and an agricultural or pastoral land. With these multiple in the world. It knows no social, economic or national requirements for plot ownership, I do not think we have boundaries. It undermines the health, dignity, security a crisis, because Batswana in general want multiple plot and autonomy of its victims, yet it remains shrouded in ownerships. Thank you. a culture of silence and normalisation. It goes without

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saying that all efforts to this fight demand funding, lack show willingness and fund activities aimed at fighting of which, has been the greatest impediment to efforts GBV. As policy makers, it is our responsibility to pass made against the horror. budgets that are geared towards realising SDG Goal number five which seeks to adopt and strengthen sound Mr Speaker, although Botswana has made some policies and enforceable legislation for the promotion milestones concerning health, education and democracy, of gender equality and the empowerment of all women GBV remains a critical challenge. It is against this and girls at all levels. The private sector must also get on background that we join the world in commemorating board and fund initiatives geared towards fighting GBV the 16 Days of Activism against GBV, which is a as we can only succeed collectively. global campaign to raise awareness on violence against women and girls as well as its impact on the physical, In conclusion, I would like to remind all Members of psychological, social and spiritual well-being. Parliament that the United Nations (UN) Women in collaboration with the Parliamentary Caucus on Women Our boys and girls in schools need to be educated has invited all of you to a breakfast discussion on GBV on issues of violence because we have to start at the at the Cresta Lodge tomorrow Tuesday, 27th November roots. Indiscipline, vandalism and drug abuse which are 2018 starting at 7:30 a.m. to 9.30 a.m. I thank you Mr prevalent in secondary schools are a breeding ground Speaker. for GBV, and we need to act now. MR SPEAKER: Ke a leboga mme. Batlotlegi, le ka Statistics released by the Ministry of Nationality, mmotsa dipotso tse di khutshwane go tlhaloganya se a Immigration and Gender Affairs indicate that since neng a se bua. January 2018, there has been over 6,000 cases of GBV in Botswana, 497 cases being rape; 177 cases being MR KESUPILE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo threat to kill; 49 cases being indecent assault of female tsa Palamente. Ke re ke botse motlotlegi gore o a lemoga and two cases being incest. gore fa go sale go simololwa gore jaanong ga gotwe In July this year, we were all shocked by the discovery “kgokgontsho ya bomme”, jaanong gatwe “kgokgontsho of decapitated body of a young woman in Maratanang ya bong” kana ka bong, go tewa borre le bomme? Le ward, Tlokweng. In yet another gruesome incident, molodi wa mafoko a gagwe wa go kgala kgokgontsho at this year`s annual 1000 kilometre Desert Race ya bomme, jaanong e koafetse. E koafaditswe ke gore competition, popularly known as Mantshwabisi, in ga go sa tlhole go tsepame, go lebagane le ba tota e leng Jwaneng, a young woman was found dead, naked and bone ba manokonoko a dilo tse tsotlhe; kgokgontsho dumped in the bush. These incidents demonstrate that our people have lost the values that we stand for as yotlhe e welang mo godimo ga bone. Batswana. The Parliamentary Caucus on Women went Ya bobedi le yone e le khutshwane Motsamaisa on record to vehemently condemn in the strongest terms Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke gore a motlotlegi o these inhumane actions. We still stand tall and say it is bona gore go gogotlega ga gagwe mo lebakeng le le enough! kanakana a ntse a lelela batho ba ba kgokgontshiwang, Mr Speaker, I need to remind this Honourable House a ga re a goroga mo seemong sa gore a tlise molao o that the is a signatory to o itebagantseng le kgokgontsho ya bomme, ka fa re a number of international and regional instruments, bonang ba welwa ke dihawa mo kgokgontshong nngwe as well as global commitments, aimed at advancing le nngwe jaaka a ntse a bala dipalo jaana? equality, human rights and dignity. These international commitments and protocols include the following; MS TSHIRELETSO: Mr Speaker, ke dumalana le Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs); the Beijing Mopalamente. Motlotlegi Tshekedi Khama, tlhe rra Declaration and its Platform for Action; the Declaration mma Minister a utlwe ka gore ke batla ke mo arabela on the Elimination of Violence against Women (1993); potso e ka fa re buileng… the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women; the United Nations Secretary-General’s MR SPEAKER: Honourable Tshireletso, a ke bontlha Campaign to End Violence Against Women and the bongwe jwa karabo? Southern African Development Community (SADC) MS TSHIRELETSO: Nnyaa. Ke a leboga. Kana ke Addendum on the Prevention and Eradication of gore, hei! go thatanyana. Fa pele ga me fa... ke sale Violence Against Women and Children. ke bua o ntse a dira fela jalo. Kana ga a ke a nna mo Mr Speaker, being a signatory to all these protocols is Palamenteng gakere, jaanong fa re bua ga a utlwe sentle; only a starting point. I therefore call the Government to o batla gore a tseelwe dikgang.

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Jaanong tota ke ne ke re ke batla Tona a utlwa fa ke MS TSHIRELETSO: Ka bokhutshwane, boammaaruri araba ka gore re buile kgang ya gore kana kgang e, ke gore rona re buile mo puong ya rona gore re simolole le ene maabane o letse a ntse a bua, le Tautona a bua, go ruta bana ba rona ba basimane le ba basetsana kwa gore tota mo go itebagantseng le bomme le bana ba sekoleng, akere kwa tlase le kwa malwapeng. Kgang basetsana, a go nne clear Honourable Kesupile, go e nngwe e le tshwanetseng go e tlhotlhomisa le e ele itebaganye le bone because le fa re ka tlhola re ntse re re tlhoko, ke kgang e e buegang gore bana ba malwapa go re akaretsa rotlhe, morafe o o suleng, o o lepeletseng a single parents ga ba utlwe. Tota a ko go dirwe le o o thubetswang (rape), tota ke bomme. Ke gore rre ditlhotlhomiso, ke bona bana ba baruti, bana ba borre, ope, ba le ba ntsi, ga re utlwe reports tsa bone ba re ba ba dira dilo tse di gakgamatsang. Rona basadi ke yone thubeditswe. kgokgontsho. O bona kgang e e reng, bana ba ba senang borraabo, ga gona ngwana yo o senang rraagwe mo the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ba a thubediwa! Children’s Act. Ngwana mongwe le mongwe o na le MS TSHIRELETSO: Nnyaa, le a bo le batla gakere; fa rraagwe, e bile o na le tshwanelo ya go tlhokomelwa o sa batle o ka thubediwa ke mang? A ko o tswe mo go ke batsadi botlhe. Ke bona bomme ba ba ntsi ba tshotse yone Motlotlegi Rre Mokgware. Members of Parliament, Councillors and everybody ba sena borre, e le mme a le nosi. Kgang e ke kopa HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... Mma Makgato o ko o e tlhotlhomise ka gore, borre get MS TSHIRELETSO: Se ke batlang go se bua ke a divorce ngwana a le two years/three years, bomme gore Honourable Kesupile o e tshwere sentle, gore a ba sala le bana a kokometse le bone. Nna kgang e ke e re boeleng mo kgannyeng ya gore tota kgokgontsho batlang ke gore, a borre ba itshupe mo baneng ba bone e lebagane le bomme le bana ba basetsana; re lese go le fa ba sa nyala batsadi ba bone. Go na le gore le itatole iphatlha ka monwana e ntse e le borre. Kana the few bana le nne le re ngwana o tlhokomelwa ke mmaagwe a of them ba ba tshelwang ka metsi a a bolelo, bo ntsi le nosi, a mo tsere kae? Kgang e le tshwanetse gore le e jwa bone ke bone ba ba kgokgontshang. Ke a leboga ele tlhoko. Ke a leboga. Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Le emelela le le bantsi, ke tlaa le emisa ka 3:10 p.m.. MINISTER OF YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE DEVELOPMENT (MR DR MMATLI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga OLOPENG): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke utlwile Honourable Minister. Ke botsa gore, ka ditlhotlhomiso Honourable Minister e le modulasetilo wa bomme a di a supa gore bomme ke bone ba ba babalelwang ke bega. E bile gape ke kile ka lebelela tiro ya researchers kgokgontsho le bana ba basetsana, a ditlhotlhomiso ba leka go bona gore tota kgang e tswa kae, mme ba bua tse ga di ise di tsenelele thata mo kgokgontshong ya ka gore fa ba dira research ba bone gore mo gongwe go bomme ba ba nang le bogole, tsone tsa reng ka bomme dirwa ke gore bomme ba na le itsholelo e e kwa tlase, ba ba nang le bogole? Gore ba kgokgontshiwa go le kae, jalojalo. ke dilo tse di amanang le ngwao, gore monna o bona e le ngwao gore o ka betsa motho wa mme, gotwe ka gore Ya bobedi, ke ne ke utlwa o bua gore keletso ke o dirile molato jalojalo. Ke re a Tona ga a bone gore gore thuto ya gore batho ba tlogele go kgokgontsha gongwe, tota re leke go lebisisa from the upbringing, e tshwanetse gore e simolole kwa tlase. Fa o bona re boele fela kwa moragorago kwa baneng ba santse ba kakanyetso ya gago gongwe go ka simologa leng ka le kwa lwapeng, ba le ba nnyennyane e le bananyana, gore nna ke dumalana le wena gore go botlhokwa gore gore bana ba godisiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang, because kwa primary school go simolole go rutwa bana ka kgang nna ke bona o kare golo mo, go tswa mo goreng tota ya gore ba tlhokomelane, ba ratane go se ka ga nna le mme ngwana ene o godisitswe ka tsela e e ntseng jang, dikgokgontsho? ka gore e bile malatsi a re bona e le gore single parents MS TSHIRELETSO: Ee, ke tlaa araba ka bofefo. E ba nna ba ntsi go feta ba bogologolo, o bo o fitlhela e tlaare mo bokhutshwaneng re kope Tona yo o lebaganeng le gore bana ba basimane ba na le go tlhoka kgodiso ya le tsone dikgang tse tsa Gender Based Violence (GBV), borre fa tlase ga bone. Gore tota Tona ga a bone gore gore gongwe a tle ka dipalo tsotlhe tsa ba ba nang le gongwe re simolole kwa moding, kwa tlase, re thusane bogole ka gore jaaka a bua, ba kgokgontshiwa le ka gone rotlhe re le Goromente re bone gore re ka kganela kgang go tseelwa dikobo ka dikgoka, ba bangwe ga ba bue, ba e go tswa kwa tshimologong. bangwe ga ba utlwe, fa a sa mmone go ile fela jalo. Ke MR SPEAKER: Ke kopa dipotso tse di khutshwane dumalana le wena rra gore re dire ditlhotlhomiso gore batlotlegi. re ka thusa jang.

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Ya bobedi, fa re re sekole, tota go simolola kwa tlase. O MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND tshameketshameke le ngwana wa gago le fa o sa nyala INDUSTRY (MS KENEWENDO): Thank you Mr mmaagwe; le mmaagwe o sa tle kwa go ene o tla kwa Speaker. Ke ne ke re ka bonako fela fa Mma Tshireletso ngwaneng. A go simolole fela go tswa kwa lwapeng, a ne a ka re tlhalosetsa gore, mo dipalong tse 6000 cases kwa moding re bo re tswelela rra. Mma Makgato re tse, how many have actually been prosecuted. Ke ba le buile ka kgang e e bile re santse re tlaa e bua. O batla kae ba e leng gore ba bone toronko over kgokgontsho e gore re dire diphetogo tse di tseneletseng ka e le mme a ya bomme? Go tsweng foo Mma Tshireletso, ke ne ke re kile botlhoko a bo utlwa. Ke a leboga. ga se gore re rotloetse ba ba neng ba seyo maabane gore le bone ba tseye the pledge to fight against violence on MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION women and to protect women and children le bone ba AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MAKGATO): Sa re, “not in my name” and “#HearMeToo.” Thank you me sa ntlha ke go leboga the Chairperson wa rona, Mr Speaker. wa bomme ba Palamente ya Botswana (Parliamentary Caucus on Women), gore a bo a bone go le botlhokwa MS TSHIRELETSO: Nnyaa, ya gore ba ba gore a tle go baya Palamente mafoko a a sa tswang tlhatlhetsweng, e re e tsayang e re e tsere kwa go bua ka one, a kgokgontsho ya bomme le bana. Ka mapodiseng, bo ntsi jwa bone bo sekile botlhe, go bokhutshwane ke bue gore kgang e, e a re tshwenya ee, tlhatlhelwa ke tlaa tlisa information. Ya #No, o bona eo, nna ke batla gore fa re ne re kopile Speaker, re ka bo re kgokgontsho e jaaka o bua mma, e na le gore e tsenye ema re ikana ka gore 5000 wa maabane Mma Makgato, borre mo teng, mme bokete kana boremelelo jwa kgang, e le yone e ikana gore ra re, “No to GBV,” re ka bo bo mo go bomme le bana. Ke eletsa gore ke le Tona yo gompieno re e dira sengwe, jaanong ka gore botsadi ga o maleba, le nthuse le le Palamente ya Botswana, gore re a go kopa rra, re tlaare ba re “No” mo dipelong “to e re fa re bua, le ba ba re tlhophileng ba ba re tlisitseng GBV,” gone fa. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. kwano, ka bofefo… MR SPEAKER: Order! Honourable Members, e HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a botsa? tšhaile nako e ke neng ke e beetse statement. Re tswelela le lenaneo. Next item. MS MAKGATO: Ee, ke a botsa. MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makgato, mma ke go AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MAKGATO): Point gakolole motlotlegi, ke kopa dipotso tse di khutshwane, of order Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, ga ke itse gore a go e seng statement. na le any special privileges, mme ke ne ke tsaya gore ka gore malatsi a ke malatsi a a very, very important to MS MAKGATO: Ee, ke tlaa e dira khutshwane. Ke the calendar of women, a a simolodisitsweng semmuso ne ke batla go mmotsa go mo raya ke re a ene fa a ke Tautona wa lefatshe la Botswana a setse morago lebile kgang e ya gore fa gongwe borre ba tseye gore mafatshefatshe, a go ka nna thona gore re go kope o le empowerment ya bomme is their disempowerment; molaodi wa Palamente e gore bogolo fa o re go padile re kgang e ya gore mme o ne a apere jang; mme o ne a eme ka dinao re gopole bomme le bana ba e leng gore ba batla eng kwa a leng teng; ke gore where we have blame amilwe ke kgokgontsho e ya bong, bangwe ba bone re this violence, on the woman, e rile fa le ntse le tseretsere ba fitlhile,in remembrance, le borre ba le mo teng. So ke dikgang tsa teng, le e bona jang, kana le e kanoka jang, a go kopa, I know that you have the statutory powers tse kana le eletsa gore ke dire eng ka yone? re di go fileng gore re ka ema ka dinao re le Palamente MS TSHIRELETSO: Ke itse gore mmaetsho o felela ya Botswana in a moment of silence re gopola botlhe ba o boletsa jone botsadi fa. Moo ke dikgang di sele tsa e leng gore ba amilwe ke dikgokgontsho tse, and take a gore fa mme a apere mini, a ntshitse mohubu kana go pledge gore rona re le Palamente ya Botswana we say bonala mabele ke sepe. Fa re gola go ne go robalwa fela “No to Gender Based Violence.” Use your privileges mosetsana a bo a nne le mabele a ikaparela makgabe, ga Mr Speaker. go ise gotwe sepe, ke diphetogo fela tsa go itira batho MR SPEAKER: A ko le mpoleleng, ke gore lona ba e seng sepe. Ba apara ka fa ba aparang ka teng, re bomme ke eng le rata go dira dilo tse di farologaneng? tlhola re bona mebele ga re nke re raya ope sepe, motho E rile fa Palamente e e bulwa, phuthego e e bulwa ke a ipatisitse ka tracksuit… Motlotlegi Tautona ka State of the Nation Address HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… (SONA), re ne ra ema fa ra tsaya that moment of silence go gakologelwa Batswana botlhe ba ba re tlogetseng MS TSHIRELETSO: Fa gongwe a apere shorts, mme ka epe tsela. Jaanong, lona ke eng le a bo le rata go ga re nke re re sepe. So tota a ba tlogele ya go apara. Ke panyeletsa gore le e dire gape? A re emeleleng re dire a leboga. jaaka bomme ba bua.

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…MOMENT OF SILENCE MR SPEAKER: Rraetsho, dira ka bonako. OBSERVED… DR P. BUTALE: Ke mo bonakong joo. Fa mpona MR SPEAKER: Amen! ke le fa Mr Speaker, I am raising two beautiful girls ba ke batlang gore ke ba direle lefatshe le le siameng, MS TSHIRELETSO: Re ka tsaya pledge sir? le le sireletsegileng. Ke dumela gore le fa o bona re MR SPEAKER: …(Inaudible)… tabogile re sena nako jaana, rotlhe re a dumalana gore re fe mongwe le mongwe sebaka fa sa gore a buele mo MS TSHIRELETSO: Re ka tsaya pledge? microphone go nne mo record gore Mopalamente wa MR SPEAKER: Ga re na nako. Gaborone Central, Mopalamente wa kwa o buile a re o kgatlhanong le kgokgontsho e, a sa goe, re goa rotlhe. MS TSHIRELETSO: Ooh tanki! Jaanong ke kope Mr Speaker gore letsatsi leno jaaka ke MR SPEAKER: Ga re na nako, pledge ya gago e nne itse gore o kgona go tsaya ditshwetso, o tseye tshwetso one minute Honourable Tshireletso. fela ya gore mongwe le mongwe wa rona a emelele gore re kaetse setšhaba gore re le Palamente, re bua ka MS TSHIRELETSO: Go raya gore re emeng rotlhe. lentswe le lengwefela kgatlhanong le kgang e. Tshubang microphones. MR SPEAKER: Order! Nnyaa rra, ga ke dumalane MR SPEAKER: Emang. nao. Re na le tiro e le e tletseng fa gompieno. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga di na go tshuba HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Inaudible)… tsotlhe. MR SPEAKER: Ke e, Order Paper, re tshwanetse MR SPEAKER: Bona! Honourable Tshireletso! go e tsamaisa e fele ka fa e tshwanetseng go fela ka MS TSHIRELETSO: Rra! teng. Le laleditswe phuthego ya tiro yone e kamoso phakela, le kopane koo le bomme le ye go bua le supe MR SPEAKER: Le se ka la dia nako ya rona. Ke go matshwenyego a lona. file one minute. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MS TSHIRELETSO: Tima. Ee rra. Thank you. MR SPEAKER: Gone kwa Cresta Lodge. Le bue ADMINISTRATION OF PLEDGE matshwenyego a lona le bo le tswe ka megopolo gore re ka emisa kgokgontsho ya bong jang. Fano fa jaanong Members of Parliament took a pledge. batlotlegi, re tswelela ka lenaneo. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Members. A MR SPEAKER: Ee mma, ke rile Cresta Lodge. A re re tsweleleng. tswelele rraetsho. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S Speaker. SPEECH MR SPEAKER: Yes, Honourable Butale, what is the Motion point of order? (Resumed Debate) DR P. BUTALE: Point of order. Thank you Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Honourable Kesupile MR SPEAKER: The debate on this Motion is resuming today. When the House adjourned last week Thursday, DR P. BUTALE: Honourable Kesupile! Thank you Mr Honourable Salakae was on the floor and he is still left Speaker. Ke emelela fela go supa gore le fa tota o fitlhela with 36 minutes. Honourable Salakae, the floor is yours. re sena nako, kgang e e ntseng e buiwa ke bomme fa e botlhokwa mo go gakgamatsang. Ke dumela gore MR SALAKAE (GHANZI NORTH): Thank you ke nngwe ya dikgang tse re neng re ka dumalana ka Mr Speaker. Having said what I said in the last eight bongwefela jwa pelo gore re fiwe sebaka sa go supa gore minutes of my submission on Thursday, and having ga re kgatlhwe ke kgokgontsho e rotlhe. Fa o mpona ke thanked God for his abundance of grace, protection and le fa Mr Speaker… mercies, I want to continue with my submission today.

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I want to start in this way Mr Speaker that, as I have I believe that for our democracy to function well, we said last time, I was shocked by the number of reviews need a strong civil society, we need politically educated that the President talked about in the State of the Nation Batswana. We need politically cautious Batswana. We Address (SONA), more than 24 reviews. I am not sure need a clear distinction; a clear separation of powers whether even the President is telling the truth about those between the Judiciary, and Parliament. reviews. Take for example, Paragraph 249, the President A situation where Parliament exists to rubberstamp here says that, he is going to appoint a consultant to look Executive decisions belongs to the of old and among other things, review of the current Public Service we need to change, same applies to the Judiciary. The Remuneration Systems in terms of salaries, allowances Judiciary, Mr Speaker need not only to be independent, and benefits. One wonders, if my mind serves well, there it must also be seen to be independent. A situation where is a similar consultancy that was instituted by the former the Chief Justice is appointed against the set precedence President, sometime December 2017 and if I recall of considering seniority is not only untidy, but must also very well, I am reliably informed also if I do not recall be condemned with the contempt it deserves. We must that even the labour unions wrote to the Directorate not complain that batho ba ba batlela bomonnaabone of Public Service Management (DPSM) on the 4th bo Vice President, fa rona re batlela ditsala tsa rona and 29th of October enquiring about the same. Instead other things. of the President responding to them, he now wants to We also need Mr Speaker, an independent, Independent institute another consultancy because he does not want Electoral Commission (IEC) to guarantee a truly, to do anything with President Khama’s administration just, free and fair elections. We need an autonomous regardless of the cost implications. This is the kind of Directorate on Corruption and Economic Crime (DCEC) President that we are now under. A President who wants to arrest excessive greed and creep in corruption. to destroy another dynasty and start his own dynasty We need to create strong institutions as opposed to regardless of the cost implications. developing strong individuals as the United States of Mr Speaker, this notwithstanding, let me however take America President once advised. This country has got this opportunity to thank the President of the Republic a challenge to rise above this evil of building strong Dr Eric Mokgweetsi Keabetswe Masisi for at least personalities, as opposed to building strong institutions. honoring a precedent, honoring a democracy, a practice Against this background Mr Speaker, I am tempted in our democracy that every year, there shall be SONA presented by a sitting President, that he has done ably perhaps to start commenting ka paragraph 270 of the well though longer than usual. State of the Nation Address (SONA). Mr Speaker, we must pray for peace in this country. We must also My sincere gratitude Mr Speaker goes to the Leader of remind President Masisi that creating and maintaining the Opposition, Advocate Gideon and the peace is the fundamental function of any Government, Leader of the Minority Party, Mokaulengwe Nkosinathi because for the past 52 years, this function has eluded Ndaba Gaolathe for their respective high leveled the of Seretse Khama, Masire, Mogae SONA responses. A task I must admit Mr Speaker, and even the Government of General Khama and has that they executed with measured brilliance, humility become the preserve of the opposition. The peace and and desirable etiquette, not forgetting the painful news unity prevailing in this country is undoubtedly because Mr Speaker that, Madam Speaker Mma Kokorwe of the opposition. I am going to explain that going on. is unwell. I join the rest of Batswana in wishing her The peace in this country is because of the opposition. speedy recovery, good health and longer life. I also wish Mr Speaker to thank Honourable Members who have Sometimes back Mr Speaker, while I was working for the Tertiary Education Council (TEC), I once went for a trip already spoken from both sides of the aisle. to Johannesburg on a short course on Data Management. I understand the role of the Members of Parliament When I arrived at Oliver Tambo Airport, I was met and (MPs) with respect to SONA, is to untie the SONA and chauffeured around by a Professor of Political Science. link it to the micro elements of the problems, difficulties, This Professor seemed to own the taxis that were taking us from the airport to our hotels. Along the way, challenges as they emanate from our respective he started a conversation after exchanging personal constituencies, with a view to establish the extent information and contacts of course, he asked me and to which this SONA attempts to address questions of said, “Noah, what is your view on President Khama and inclusion and social cohesion among others. A task that the mood prevailing in the politics of your country?” also I admit Mr Speaker, that it is an important task to be This was a question directly from the Professor of the left to politicians alone, so it is politics. Political Science then, a nkgweeditse in a taxi. I said as

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a response, “well, President Khama is a closed book and Again I also agree with those who say, but President he remains as such, even to his perceived closest friends, Khama also must know that a secret promise, a secret so I do not know him either.” That was my response to deal gone sour, is as good as failed. O tshwanetse a him. The second question was, “what is your view on the dumele gore that was a secret deal, a secret promise, a mood prevailing in the politics of your country?” I said, secret agreement, if it has gone sour, a re se ka jaanong “well, I hear from the international media not Batswana, ra tlhakatlhakanya kagiso e e teng mo lefatsheng le, re that Botswana is an oasis of peace, ke utlwa magatwe.” dumele gore the deal has gone sour. In fact, I wish that After a long conversation, he would then summarise our the two leaders can demonstrate that they are above conversation by saying, “Noah, politics in your country self-interest, otherwise history will judge them harshly. has not been tested yet. Le santse le tlile go bona dikgolo, The two of them should demonstrate that they are above but as a Professor of Political Science, I wish Batswana self-interest because ke bona dikgang tsa bone e le tsa can thank the opposition for the peace prevailing in that gore ba itibile, otherwise history will judge them. In country.” In all other countries, opposition parties are fact, Mr Speaker, the truth be told, we have lived a lie in often seen as engineers of violence and social unrest, the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) for a long time. especially when they do not agree with elections. In We have been a country since independence that the Botswana we have managed to maintain peace at every agenda of the country has been set by the personal tastes of the President. Ke gore fa Tautona a tsena, fa a rata election, regardless of whether we lose or not. This is selo e nna agenda ya ditlhabololo tsa lefatshe with the the peace that I am talking about Rre Bagalatia Arone greatest beneficiaries of this agenda... gore rona le a re tsietsa, re ntse re dumalana le yone. MR KEORAPETSE: Elucidation. I should elucidate HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. mokaulengwe gore, kana the President setting the MR SALAKAE: I do not have time. Mr Speaker, I wish agenda of the country is also backed by a clearly flawed to continue and say, as much as I share the sentiments provision in the Constitution in terms of Section 47, of those who say we must pray to calm waters between (i) and (ii), where it provides that the Executive power President Masisi and the former President, I want to of Botswana shall vest in the President and shall be say three things to these two leaders. I want to caution exercised by him, either directly or indirectly. Also them in fact and say three things, one; they are not further on Subsection 2 of the same provision, that in his bigger than Botswana. Two; Batswana do not want exercise of Executive functions, the President shall act bloodshed. Three; they will never be bloodshed in in his own deliberate judgement, and he is not obliged Botswana because this country is a God’s creation. This to take any advice from any person or authority. It is an is the message that I want the messengers of President anomaly that has seen us being ruled in a system akin Khama and President Masisi to take to them. Regardless to dictatorship. In fact, Professor Bojosi Otlhogile says, of whatever their feud is all about, they must know that “the Constitution authorises dictatorship.” there would never be bloodshed in Botswana. We might MR SALAKAE: Thank you Honourable Dithapelo not know Mr Speaker what led to their standoff but let Keorapetse. It is indeed a misfortune… us not be fooled. It is clear, there was a promise. It is clear that the standoff results from a failed promise. In MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION fact, it will be helpful for President Masisi to give us AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MAKGATO): On the background, if at all he wants the nation to assist a point of procedure. Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of him. Why just come here and say wena le mongwe ga procedure go botsa fela gore, a mokaulengwe is at liberty to say as he wishes even if he is not telling the le utlwane, what? A o buela gore re go thuse kana o nation the truth, or he is misinterpreting what is written, buela go kgatlha lefatshe? If at all you want us to assist a bo a gana re tlhalosa, a bo a fa ba elucidation fela. you, why can you not provide us with the benefit of the Rona re batla gore a tlhalose mafoko a gagwe, a se ka background to your standoff so that we can assist? If a bua fela. really the President wanted us to assist, he could furnish us with the necessary information like Pastor Jackson MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makgato, gakere mme o refers to his prophecy, a promise is a promise Mr a itse gore fa o kopa clarification, fa a sa batle, ga go na Speaker. If Honourable Tshekedi Khama was promised gore ke ka mo pateletsa? Nna o mo leke fela o tlaa go a Vice Presidency position, give it to him go na le gore thusa. Tswelela Honourable Salakae. jaanong re kgotlele kagiso e e teng mo lefatsheng le. MR SALAKAE: Gape ga a ise a kope. Mr Speaker, let If there was a gentlemen’s agreement, that Isaac Kgosi me continue with my submission. Last time Honourable would stay put in his office, post Khama era, why Kebonang while debating, he indicated that the reason somersault without a word? why Batswana are not so successful is because…

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MR SPEAKER: Order! A ko o eme jalo pele The point that I wanted to underscore Mr Speaker, having Honourable Salakae. Ke kopa gore mongwe le mongwe thanked you gore o tshwanetse gore a wele dibete, fa e a boele kwa setilong sa gagwe. Le tsositse modumo le gore gongwe ke buile se e leng gore ga a dumalane le golo ka koo. Honourable Dow, Honourable Olopeng sone, ke ngwana fela jaaka bana ba bangwe. le Honourable Mabeo, boelang kwa ditilong tsa lona, le tsosa modumo ka go ngunanguna mo Palamenteng. Mr Speaker, Batswana want a united opposition. I agree Honourable Mabeo, Honourable Olopeng dirang jalo. with Advocate Duma Boko that we look forward to a Tswelela Honourable Salakae. point in our journey where we will reunite to end the imperialist BDP hegemony or agenda. Batswana want a MR SALAKAE: Thank you Mr Speaker. I wanted to new beginning that is serious and honest about creating underscore here Mr Speaker, that I tend to differ with a safe world for all of us to live in. A world that protects Honourable Kebonang, that the reason why Batswana a young girl and our beautiful women of this country are not so successful is because they are not supportive against gender based violence. to each other, or they lack the spirit of brotherhood. In fact, the truth in my view is, as it has been reported I hear that today marks the second day of 16 Days of elsewhere around the world, Batswana are naturally Activism Against Gender Based Violence. Statistics unhappy. They are hopeless. The Botswana Democratic regrettably reveal that women and girls everywhere are Party (BDP) fatigued and arrogant Government, has experiencing extensive abusive, and their stories need to turned them into a hopeless society, which is only be brought into light, Mr Speaker, and tackled once and good for donated blankets, tents and diphaphatha. Fa for all. I agree with those who say, let us be advocates for o batla go bona gore ba swele maDomkrag, jaaka re creation of opportunities for dialogue between activists, tsamaela kwa go bo December, ba bo batla ka t-shirts policy makers and the public because we all can make tse dikhibidu fa ba sena go neela batho tents le eng. Re a difference. a bo re ya go tenwa ke t-shirts ka December. This is the Batswana wants a new beginning that will give them hopelessness e e leng gore Batswana ba mo go yone. I land. Botswana is around the same size as France, agree with them that we need a new beginning. We need Honourable Kwerepe. We have two million people in a united opposition for a new beginning… this country, they have got more than 65 million people MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR residing in France, but their problems of land are not ARONE): On a point of order Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, the same as ours. Batswana need land for grazing, the Honourable Member is out of order. If indeed he is commercial purposes and residential purposes, but it hopeless, he should not think everybody else is hopeless. is not there. Fa o bua gore tota jaanong Batswana ba He does not have the right, because of his thinking, his tletswe ke boitlhobogo, bangwe ba e leng gore today ba frustration to refer to the nation… tshela botoka, ba dumela gore o ka ikaletsa. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… In my constituency for example, Mr Speaker, Self Help Housing Agency (SHHA) backlog leaves much to be MR ARONE: No! Monna didimala. Let me talk to this desired. You will wonder, the BDP will get excited and hopeless fellow, or else you are also hopeless. He is call people to apply for land, fa ba tshwanetse to respond imputing improper motives for him to say Batswana are to the applications, there is nobody to answer those hopeless. He is capable of using better words for him to applications. There are more than enough backlogs of describe his frustration. Mo gotweng, “batho ba ya go SHHA. Batho ba a bolelelwa gotwe, “apply for land.” re tena,” ee tenega o ye go ikaletsa ee. So what? In fact, to save face, in my constituency ke fa e le gore; gakere ba tlhoafetse, fa ba sena go ntsha diphaphatha, MR SPEAKER: Ee, ke a go utlwa o kgopisegile thata go senkwa sengwe fela se e leng gore Batswana ba ka Honourable Arone. Ke tsaya gore o ka tswa a dirisitse ithaya ba re go na le tharabololo. They then said the lefoko le a neng a le dirisa in the context e a neng a youth of Ghanzi should apply for the open spaces that batla go le dirisa mo yone. Gongwe o ka bo a tlhophile are available there. Guess what Mr Speaker! Your guess le le botokanyana jaaka o bua. Se omaneng. Ke tsaya is the same as mine. They are told that they are only gore o ne a le dirisa a batla go supa gore batho ga ba going to be given leases tsa bo four years and five years, na tsholofelo, e se lesotlo lepe le le ka le omanelang. rona re ipha tsa bo 99 years. Bone gatwe, “lefatshe ke Welang dibete. Mo reetseng gore a reng. le, tsamayang le ye go bona gore le ya go dira eng in MR SALAKAE: A re ke ye go ikaletsa Mr Speaker. four years.” The first two or three years, ba ya go leka O na le dikgwedi tse four fela but he thinks he is a go baakanya paper work and try go batla madi. The last president. Ke gore o tseela gore o ka kgalemakgalema year, se se ba salelang ke gore ba le rekise. This is the fela. A re re bue ka fa a batlang ka teng. dilemma facing the land question in Botswana today.

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Batswana are saying, “we want a new beginning. “ number of leaders sitting here in the House, who are beneficiaries of the same organisation e a buang ka ga Mr Speaker, with respect to the question of land again, I yone. Let me give you an example because I came earlier was shocked that the Government could confiscate fields in this House before you came in. The late Nshimwe… tsa kwa Ghanzi and give them to Botswana Housing Corporation (BHC), without compensation. I have said HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… this time and again, and I once pleaded with the Minister of Land then, Honourable Maele, gore, Maele, I heard MR ARONE: No, do not worry about time. The late the Government e bua le batho ba kwa Ramaphate gore, Nshimwe, a (BCP) member, ba e leng gore ba na le masimo a bogologolo before le nna ka nako eo ke le a BCP member, we were funded. we gazetted, ba tle kwano go supa, re se ka ra a neela Honourable Toto a le kwa Tsabong, was funded. We can ba bangwe. Kwa Ghanzi they did not do that, they just go back before CEDA was transformed, kana e ne e le confiscated the fields without compensation, and gave yone … e e neng e thusa the farmers.… them to BHC. BHC e agile mantlo, ga go na ope yo o HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ene Salakae ga a nnang teng. This is the dilemma we are facing under neelwa? the BDP. MR ARONE: …most of people had farms though. Fa Mr Speaker, Batswana wants a new beginning that can e le gore wena ga o a sala morago ditaelo tsa CEDA… give them jobs. Under the regime of President Masisi, the Government does not provide jobs. This is what HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… President Masisi reported to the nation. A re fa e le gore ba batla ditiro, they should go to the private sector. MR ARONE: It is a point of order. You are out of order If they want to create businesses and employ others, because you cannot make such kind of a blatant statement Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) to a parastatal which is not here to defend itself. The is there. They are talking about the private sector e e leng fact of the matter is that CEDA serves Batswana. That gore ga e ise e ko e review salaries especially tsa batho is why I am even saying, there are Members sitting on ba ba kwa tlase; the private sector that is anti-unionism that side right who have benefited from that. He is not because they share the values. Ba batla the allies tse ba telling the truth. ka itholelang ditiro kwa go bone, ba ba kopanetseng the MR SPEAKER: Ga ke batle go itsa ope go bua se a values. This is the regime that Batswana do not want, neng a tla a ipaakanyeditse go se bua. Jaaka ke kopile this is why Batswana want a new beginning. gore Leader of the House o teng, ke ene a yang go garela mafoko a a fetolang, sengwe le sengwe se se builweng, Mr Speaker, let me talk a bit about Citizen Entrepreneurial dilo tse di botlhokwa tse a bonang a tshwanetse gore a di Development Agency (CEDA); that the Botswana tlhamaletse, ke dumela gore o tlaa dira jalo, ke itse gore Democratic Party (BDP) is always referring to, to tell o tlaa dira. Jaanong Honourable Salakae, le wena o bue us that we should go and find madi re hire ba bangwe. mafoko a a ka se go pateletseng gore go tloge go batliwe They are saying this because they know that a gateway bosupi mo go wena, segolobogolo o bua ka maphata a to CEDA is political connections; where they would deal Puso a a mo lefatsheng. with anybody would dare challenge the BDP misrule. Why am I saying that? There are two companies that I MR SALAKAE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, le fa ke am aware of Mr Speaker, one has political connections belaela gore the two examples… and the other one does not have. This is a living story, MS MAKGATO: Point of order. Point of order Mr this one with political connections wanted a loan from Speaker, ka gore I can speak in my capacity as a former CEDA to make jerseys. You go to Bontleng, Ghanzi le Minister of Trade and Industry knowing our processes fa e le kwa bo Ramokgonami, I am sure you are going and the names of individuals that are on the other side to find someone making jerseys. The one with political of the aisle, ba e leng gore I do not necessarily have connections wanted to make jerseys. The other one ba e to say their names. Therefore, any statement in this leng gore ke bana ba Modimo, ba ne ba tsere gore they Parliament that says to Batswana out there gore CEDA had come with the solution to our fragile economy. Ba funds maDomkrag fela, it is totally untrue and it must ne ba re ba batla go dira dipente, mind you… be taken out of the record. So serious is this thing Mr MR ARONE: Point of order. Thank you Mr Speaker. I Speaker, I am currently in court with some gentleman, rise on a point of order because the Honourable Member that shall remain nameless because he is not here to is making an unfair blatant statement about a parastatal defend himself, who allegedly says that I refused him owned by this Government. A re e thusa only who a CEDA loan and therefore he is going to behead me, have political connections, a ntse a itse gore there are we are in court ka a threat to kill case. Dikgang tse tsa

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gore go nne gotwe go fiwa maDomkrag fela di sena LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): boammaaruri, they can lead to disastrous issues tse di Point of procedure. My point of procedure Mr Speaker, tshwanang le a threat to kill to the head of the Minister ke gore much as I sympathise with Members to speak of this Government. As I am speaking to you, I am in and freely air their views, they must maintain the court ka a threat to kill, go buiwa go tshamekiwa jaaka decorum of this Parliament and say the truth. They go tshamekiwa jaana. Unless… must say the truth and never try to mislead the people outside there. When you are a leader and say something, HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Inaudible)… everyone believes in it and we must try by all means to MS MAKGATO: Ga ke a tshoga sepe. Unless… say the truth.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… I am standing on procedure again Mr Speaker, because you are saying that I will respond to those. I cannot MS MAKGATO: Ga ke a tshoga sepe. I am respond to each and every comment made in this House, disappointed that wena Rantuana, ga ke itse gore o bua they are very much critical and important comments. ka ga eng. I am disappointed that a level of a Member of I would not find myself answering or responding to Parliament (MP) is alleging dilo tse bana ba di buang ba trivialities said in this House, you are supposed to deal tshameka kwa pateng. Golo fa ga se pata, ke Palamente with those as soon as they are said. I cannot just stand ya Botswana, anything that you speak here is going to here every time and respond by, “you were not telling Hansard. Therefore, it must be truth, nothing else but the the truth, you were not telling the truth.” I have a serious truth. Ga re ka ke ra tshameka jaaka e ka re we are at the business to respond to serious people, but for those who rally, we are not. Mr Speaker, I am saying this to you; are not serious, I will have no time to respond to their… any statement that says CEDA e fa maDomkrag loans you have to deal with them immediately. I thank you. fela e tima bangwe, it must be stripped off the record because it is not true. Otherwise, I will come with the MR SPEAKER: Order! Nnyaa, tsamaiso ga se evidence and a list of names ya batho ba kganetso, ba e yone eo Honourable Father of the House. Jaaka o leng gore e bile ba a kolota, they are in arrears right now. reeditse Mapalamente ba bua, you pick se o bonang CEDA is a revolving fund, part of the reason o bona e se le botlhokwa, se tlhamaletse ka gore fa ba bua go a palelwa ke to fund Batswana, batho ba ba tsereng some gatisiwa, le lona le reeditse. Fa ba tsamaya ba bua their loans bangwe ke ba kganetso, ga ba duele, ba bo ba tla views jaaka ba di bua, it is up to you to put the record ba ema fa ba re CEDA ga e fe nneu. He must retract that straight. Ke sone se ke neng ke se bua, ke se gakolola. Mr Speaker. Honourable Salakae o bua ka dikompone tse di nang MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, se lweng, se nameng le lole le political connections, jaanong a re mo reetseng, ke pele, le tsene Honourable Salakae ganong a santse a utlwe gore a re o wela a reng. Is that too much to ask? wetsa sekai se a se fang. A ko a wetse, re utlwe gore o Re mo reetse gore o bua ka the political connections wela a reng, ke gone le ka tlang la batla paakanyo a sena dife, le mo kope ditlhaloso, le mo tlhaloganye gore a go nna a fetsa se a se buang. reng. Tota ke sone fela se ke neng ke se kopa.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

MR SPEAKER: Mma a fetse, a ke utlwe gore a reng. MR TSOGWANE: Further point of procedure. Ke gore MR SALAKAE: Ke raya gore fa e le gore Honourable ga o nkutlwe Mr Speaker. I want to be fair to all these Dorcas Makgato o tlhoafaletse rally, a se ka a e tsisa Honourable Members because that is the only time mo Palamenteng a bo a re ke a e tsisa. This is rally that they can be engaged. When I stand here and say politicking mo o go buang. Ga ke ise ke bue ka BDP, I Rre Kesupile ga o bue nnete, I will not be fair to him said political connections and I was going to say those because I am going to give him a chance to explain or two names that you mentioned Honourable Bagalatia, I further elucidate. It can be done when the Member is can assure you di na le political connections. Those two debating. Fa ke setse ke mo akisa jaanong, it will be names that you… unfair, he is not going to clarify and elucidate what he is saying. That is what I am saying. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure. MR SPEAKER: Mme kana ga o nosi akere sir, Leader MR SALAKAE: …ga ke ise ke bue ka Domkrag of the House. Ga o nosi golo ka koo, o na le Matona a gotlhelele… Puso ba ba lebaganeng le one maphata one a, a ba go thuse… MR SPEAKER: Ema jalo pele, what is your point of procedure Honourable Tsogwane. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

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MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, mme ke a go utlwa. wa a wa sentle. He is saying it and trying to run away from saying the word BDP, a re, “e e filweng political MR TSOGWANE: Let me clarify further Mr Speaker. connection,” which is the BDP and the Government of Ka re when I respond by saying Honourable Salakae the BDP. So until and unless a re fa bosupi and also he is o ne a sa bue nnete, Honourable Salakae, ga a na go correlating things that do not correlate. He is correlating nna le that opportunity to engage me, because I will not a business e e leng gore e filwe bokana e nngwe e filwe allow him. I will be unfair to him, mme we can only bokana, therefore he alleges what. So a a tlhamalale engage him gompieno a tlhalosa. That is what I am fela fa e le gore a re BDP, a tswe mo go one, a boele saying. Ga ke a re Matona. morago ka mafoko ao. A se ka a leka go tshameka ka MR SPEAKER: Do not worry about them, wena put mafoko. the record straight. He will not get the chance to engage MR SPEAKER: Honourable Salakae, a ko o tlhamalatse you, o bolelela ruri. kgang ya gago e utlwale sentle, gore ba bangwe ba go MR SALAKAE: Mr Speaker, in the interest of time, I botse ba go tlhaloganye. O se ka wa iphitlha thata. want to conclude my story by saying this jersey company MR SALAKAE: Thank you Mr Speaker. E seng mo with political connections was given P5 million. This jaanong gotweng ke bue mafoko a mangwe a ke sa painting company… batleng go a bua. I am not going to mention the name DR MMATLI: On a point of procedure Mr Speaker. Ke BDP, but political connections. a leboga Mr Speaker. Gangwe le gape fa bakaulengwe ba MR KEORAPETSE: On a point of order Mr Speaker. bua ba supa gore bangwe le basha, rona re bagologolo, Ke ne ke re mokaulengwe o se ka wa tshoga, o palame jaanong Mr Speaker ke botsa gore is it procedural gore boammaaruri fa o bua ka political connections. I think wena le Leader of the House le bo le nganga mo go e bile if you order a forensic audit ya CEDA, you will kanakana? Ka go lebega o mo tsentse mo classroom, realise that former board members ba CEDA, some of o mo ruta gore o tshwanetse go dira eng, e ne e se gore them were given loans by CEDA, sitting on the board ya gongwe le ye kwa ofising ya gago o ye go mo ruta sentle CEDA. Those loans were written off. This also includes re seyo fa, a nne a go ganetse le wena o mo ganetse. Le senior people associated with the ruling party, given ganetsane kwa bothokong ka gore le batsadi mmogo. loans and loans later written off by CEDA. Fa o bua MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ga gona le fa e le sepe se se ka political connections, you are correct. Anybody who duleng mo tseleng, jaaka le wena o a bo o bona fela o re disputes se re se buang re ka kgaoganngwa ke selo se le emisa o batla go kgobera kagiso e e teng fa gare ga me le sengwe fela, a forensic audit by a reputable international Moeteledipele wa Ntlo. Ga gona le fa e le mathata ape. company e e dira kwa CEDA. Dikgang tse tsotlhe o Didimala. Tswelela Honourable Salakae. tlaa di fitlhela kwa CEDA, even more information that we will reveal fa nako e ntse e tsamaya. O palame MR SALAKAE: Mr Speaker, this jersey company e e boammaaruri, o se ka wa tshosiwa ke point of orders tse leng gore dijesi di dirwa gongwe le gongwe was given gotweng political connections go tewa eng. close to P5 million and this other painting company had MR SPEAKER: Honourable Salakae, take the floor. requested for P450,000 from Citizen Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) and they were given MR SALAKAE: Mr Speaker, thank you Honourable P46,000. Keorapetse millions of times. Thank you millions of HONOURABLE MEMBER: On a point of times. clarification Mr Speaker. MR ARONE: On a point of order Mr Speaker. MR SALAKAE: Nako ya me e tšhaile and I have so Motlotlegi Keorapetse, ga a re utlwe. Ga re gane many things to talk about. This is the story that I wanted gore whether maDomkrag ba filwe kana jang, mme re to share… ganana le the way he was saying it, he was imputing improper motives to suggest that CEDA only gives MS MAKGATO: On a point of order Mr Speaker. Mr loans to companies which are politically connected. Speaker, I rise on a point of order because he thinks he That is where the problem is. That is not true. is smart but he is not. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand gore fa a re company e e nang le political HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… connection e filwe loan o raya eng, because batho ba MR ARONE: He did say that… “with political ba fang loan allegedly ke the ruling party and it is the connections.” Botswana Democratic Party (BDP). So he is basically saying what he is running away from fa a ntse a re o tlaa HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

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MR SPEAKER: Ke kopile gore le se ka la lwa. Order! made public. E kile ya nna teng Motlotlegi Makgato e le Order! Tona wa Investment, Trade and Industry, yo o Minister, Honourable Seretse e le Minister, why are they okametseng lekalana le o teng mo Ntlong e and she will not making it public? help to put the record straight. MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Right, ka nako e MR SALAKAE: Thank you Mr Speaker. A majority of honourable… times, CEDA gives loans to politically connected elites. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Murmurs)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: On a point of order Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Keorapetse, ke ne ke santse ke le gakolola gone fa gore fa ke re order, ke raya MR SPEAKER: Order! Wena Minister jaanong o a re gore le didimale. Honourable Members, let us take a point of order, ke re o tlaa re correction. short break mme re bo re boile ka 4:30 p.m.

MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 4:00 P.M. FOR INDUSTRY (MS KENEWENDO): Ga ke a bolo go APPROXIMATELY 30 MINUTES kopa clarification, jaanong ke kopa order. Mr Speaker, PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 4:30 P.M. I think I am uncomfortable with the record going down stating that only those with political affiliations MR SALAKAE: Thank you Mr Speaker. I wanted or connections segolo jang tsa Domkrag are assisted, to conclude my remarks on Citizen Entrepreneurial especially given that several of our colleagues on the Development Agency (CEDA) by calling the responsible other side have loans. Their companies have loans kwa Minister to make the CEDA Forensic Audit Report CEDA and some of them are currently being mitigated public, if at all the stories of political connections to because they are not paying. Jaanong fa go ntse jalo them are a mirage. Mr Speaker ga go a siama gore go buiwe ka political connections. Let me get to the next point. I did indicate that Batswana are saying, loud and clear, we meet them Secondly, it is unfortunate that cases tse di dirisiwang ke on the corridors, buses and churches, they are saying the Honourable Member at this particular moment ke tse they want a united opposition for a new beginning. ke ntseng ke di buisanya le some of the members ba ba They want a new beginning that will end an irrational okametseng where some of those companies are. I was Botswana Meat Commission (BMC) monopoly. I was explaining the challenges of those young people gore ke shocked Mr Speaker, that after instituting a consultancy eng ba sa fiwa the full amounts that they requested for. to go and undertake a research with a view to advise It is unfortunate that you were using a very sad case of the Government with a way forward with respect to the someone who lacks business management, yo re lekang BMC monopoly; the President did not mention a single go mo thusa to use it for political mileage. Ga go a word in relation to the BMC, even the Minister was even siama Honourable Member. I thank you Mr Speaker. shy. O bo o ipotsa gore a Ministers ba a go bua fela ka dilo fa Presidents di sena go bua. I am so shocked that HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… everybody knows that the BMC issue, the beef sector, MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Bonang, se itlwaetseng kana the beef industry, is near a state of paralysis but the go lwela dikgang tse dingwe tse. Go na le tsela e di Minister nor the President said nothing. This is the end rarabololwang ka yone. Fa e le gore le batla forensic that Batswana want to ensure takes place, then have a audit kwa CEDA, le a itse gore le ka dira jang gore e new beginning. nne teng. Se lweleng dikgang tse mme go na le tsela e e Mr Speaker, let me get to the second question. Batswana dirisiwang. Honourable Salakae, o ntse o reeditse Tona want a new beginning that will be able to address the wa Papadi le Madirelo gore a reng, jaanong a ko o bue, question of class in the education system; a situation o baakanye mafoko a gago ka gore go lebega le kile la whereby kwa Ghanzi, jaaka go ntse, bana ba santse ba bua sengwe se o se itseng. rutelwa ka fa tlase ga ditlhare jaaka kwa Itekeng. When we come here and parade the billions that we have in MR SALAKAE: Thank you Mr Speaker. I have never our reserves, it is a sign that we need a new beginning; talked to the Minister at any time, but I wanted to say Domkrag is fatigued. In fact, because of the fatigue, it is thank you Honourable Keorapetse a million times. In growing arrogant by day. If you try to stand by the truth fact, if the BDP is genuine that there are no political more often than not, they show arrogance. connections, I challenge them to release the CEDA forensic audit e e kileng ya dirwa and make it public. For the first time I want to underscore this point that I challenge them today. That forensic audit ought to be for the past 20 years that I have associated myself

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actively with the politics of kwa (UK). Ba bangwe o ipotsa gore (BNF), I have never learnt the Botswana Democratic batho ba Modimo ke eng le sa ba thuse ka schemes tsa Party (BDP) language. I will never learn BDP language CEDA tsa Agriculture ba ye kwa dipolaseng, if we are and never join it regardless of the consequences. Even serious about issues of food security? Recycling the if it means starving, I will never join the BDP that is same people when we have got the problem of graduate already fatigued and arrogant. Se e se tlhokang fela ke unemployment shows that we need a new beginning. gore when they tell people like they did kwa Ghanzi, The BDP’s time, like the Bible says, e gorogile kwa they said... motlheng wa bofelo. These are evidences, ga re sa tlhole re iphitlha ka monwana. Batho ba nnetse go iphitlha ka HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of clarification. menwana mme issues di le very clear.

MR SALAKAE: Nnyaa, nako ya me e tsamaile. Mr Speaker, we want a new beginning that cares for the health of the people of this country. In fact, the Ministry HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… of Health and Wellness is the worst ministry comparable MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION to the Ministry of Lands. Ga ke ise ke ko ke bone batho AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MAKGATO): Nnyaa, ba ba iketlileng jaaka ba Ministry of Lands; even during jaanong ke mang yo o rileng o join? Ao! the time of Mma Makgato. The same problems are there even today... MR SALAKAE: Dira point of order go siame ee. They said for the past 10 years, they have been telling us gore HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... they are going to build a second secondary school, le MR SALAKAE: I once said during his time, even Dr gompieno nako kgolo ke eno. I was happy when the new Makgalemo gore sepatela sa kwa Gantsi sa bogologolo Minister was appointed, Motlotlegi Rre Arone because se se tona, in acre e tona, se na le buildings tse di ntsi, he seemed to talk the same language with us when they are dilapidated, ba se lebile fela jaana. Go nna bo we were this side. I remember one day when he was mmamanthwane, nurses ba Modimo ba bangwe ba ba crying saying that we need to introduce mother tongue sa boneng boroko ba ya go itsenya mo teng, ba nna le instruction, nako kgolo ke eno Motlotlegi Rre Arone, dinoga mo teng. In the periphery of that old hospital, we are still waiting for that. In fact, I want you when go na le matlo a gotweng go nna baoki mo go one. Ke you stand up and deliberate or make your submissions, gore room, kitchen le sitting room combined together, say something to this effect because this is a problem they are not bigger than my own bedroom at the in Grootlagte, mo le buang dilo fela e bo e re le neelwa parliamentary flats; those nurses. In fact, those houses dingwe, kamoso le bo le ikganetsa. One day, history will were built during the time of Honourable Henry Jackie judge you harshly because the people of Grootlagte are who died in February 1987. As we speak now, gatwe backward because of the language barrier. There are ba nne moo, ba phakele ba itumetse ba ye go fokotsa always poor results in those areas because bo ntsi jwa dintsho kwa dipateleng. This ministry is worse! batho ba ba koo, ba bua puo e e sa utlwiweng ke batho ba Grootlagte, D’kar, Kuke le Xabo. When are we going I once went to the Ministry of Health and made to wait to learn that? When are we going to stop deceiving for an hour to meet the Director, go fitlhelela ke bo Batswana like you once did, many of you? Kana ba kile ke leletsa Permanent Secretary (PS) ke re, “nthuseng ba tswa fa ba le eight ba ya kwa Xabo ba re ba ya go fokotsa lehuma. Ba tla ka materase a mantle, sengwe kwano, batho ba mo meeting.” Imagine, what about le sengwe, fa ba tswa kwa, lehuma la re nyololo kwa an ordinary person? A Member of Parliament has to Xabo. When they asked me gore kana batho ba ne ba wait there, ke tlile ka mathata a lefatshe la Batswana, tlile fa ba re ba tlile go feleletsa lehuma, ba kae, ka re, ngwana a lwala ke mo tlisa. Le re reetse la re your doors “nnyaa, ba tlogeleng ba ne ba le tlholela.” Ke dilo tse di are open, why shut them when we need? dirwang; ke gore ga go na se se tsewang serious. MS MAKGATO: Point of order. Mr Speaker, the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification! Director ga a yo fa gore o ka ipuelela, ene yo go buiwang gore o ne a eme. Se se gakgamatsang ke gore MR SALAKAE: The next question because I am how does a learned person like Member of Parliament running behind time, Batswana want a new beginning go to a hospital and expect to demand to see a Director that will address graduate unemployment. We have so a sa baya appointment a bo a gakgamala gore o ema for many kids with Master’s Degree roaming the streets. an hour? Gakere fa a ne a tlhoafetse a emetse batho, o ka Bo ntsi jwa bone ba na le colourful Degrees better bo a dirile appointment a bo a tla go mmona. than many of us in this House, mme go nna go tsewa fela batho ba le bangwe fela, kgantele o utlwa gotwe o MR SPEAKER: Ee, o tshwanetse go dira appointment.

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MR SALAKAE: Ee, mme se boleleleng batho le re MR SALAKAE: Ee, ba ba seng corrupt, sorry. Ke le na le open door policy; ba boleleleng gore go dirwa gore jaanong ke lebeletse nako, ka fa Mma Makgato o a appointments. I am not going to get there. Se ke le se ntlhodia. Ka re ba ba seng corrupt, ba re tshwanetseng kopang fela ke gore be serious about healthcare system gore re bone mo go bone gore o kgona go huma fela o in this country. Ga go na bandages le mesamo. Ke a itse se dinalanyana. O ne a bua dilo ka bo ntsi gore lefatshe gore fa e kare kamoso ke re ke kopa ka gore mesamo le gotweng le na le democracy ke le le kgonang go tlisa kwa ga e yo, ntetleng ke reke tse five fela ke ise kwa metsi, le neela batho lefatshe, le neela batho ditiro, bathong, ba ya go gana. Ba tlaabo ba siana ba reka le dira gore batho ba bue, e seng arrogant leaders ba mesamo ya teng, mme as we speak, ga go na mesamo. re ba bonang cropping up whenever they are given We need a new beginning Mr Speaker. maemonyana a mannye. On that note Mr Speaker, I also wholeheartedly welcome the law on declaration of MR SPEAKER: Honourable Salakae, mesamo o raya assets. Thank you. eng? O e tlhalose, kana malatsi a ke mesamosamo fela. O raya pillows kana pads? MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR ARONE): Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me take this MR SALAKAE: Mr Speaker, I want to plead, as a time, after listening to a hopeless presentation, to also conclusion, for the President of the Republic… echo a few observations on the State of the Nation Address (SONA). HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a e itlhokomolosa? MR SPEAKER: Ema jalo pele Honourable Arone. MR SALAKAE: Mesamo? Ke lebetse gore mesamo ke Honourable Goya, ke kopa gore fa o ntse mo setilong eng jaanong; pillow. I want to plead with the President seo, batho ba ba nnang foo ga ba tsose modumo. of country to please bring supplementary registration ka Jaanong, ke kopa gore o lese go tsosa modumo rraetsho. gore batho ga ba a ikwadisa. I know some other people Tswelela Honourable Arone. want to disfranchise other people, but keletso ya me ke gore Batswana must speak. Batswana must be allowed MR ARONE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Let me start to speak and decide the development path of this my remarks Mr Speaker, like Honourable Salakae by country. Ke kopa fela thata Mr Speaker, and applaud the thanking the Lord for the gift of life and for the continued peaceful existence of our people in our nation. Thank democracy symposium, that the President mentioned the Lord for our leaders in this country, politically, in His State of the Nation Address (SONA). Ke leboga traditionally as well as religious, because this is a very thata batho ba e leng gore ba ne ba le koo, in particular important resource that we have in this country, that Mr David Ntsimele Magang; one of the corrupt-free other countries have not been blessed with. I want to BDPs of this world, a bua gore for as long as... continue to pray that we continue to be a peaceful nation despite our differences. MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, wa reng?

MR SALAKAE: Mongwe wa batho ba ba seng corrupt Secondly Mr Speaker, I want to thank the people of mo lefatsheng le, I am sorry ke a e baakanya… my constituency, people from the delta, the people of Okavango Constituency for their trust in me Mr MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ga go baakanngwe fela jalo. Speaker, after re-electing me to be their representative O ne o reng? after the party primary elections, despite the fact that many thought that I would be history. MR SALAKAE: I withdraw Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I also wish to thank the founders of this HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, o rile corrupt- nation for the decisions that they took more especially free the inclusivity part of it, where they made it clear MR SALAKAE: I withdraw Mr Speaker. Mongwe wa that Botswana would become one united country and batho mo lefatsheng le, ba ba seng corrupt free, ba re nation despite the differences that we have. This Mr ka tsayang cue mo go bone gore o kgona go huma fela Speaker, was achieved through the education system. ba ba se… You remember the first policy Mr Speaker, talked about Education for Kagisano, in other words, the main idea HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr or objective of the policy was to unite the nation of this Speaker. country in having learnt from what was happening in MR SPEAKER: Kana fa o utlwa ke botsa gore wa reng other African countries, where people were fighting jaana, ke batla go utlwa. based on their tribal and language lines.

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Mr Speaker, I want to specifically again thank the MR ARONE: Thank you very much Mr Speaker. For former President Khama, for having done what many your own information Honourable Member, it is ongoing African leaders have failed to do; to quit and hand over and we remain thankful to the business community power peacefully. For that alone, we want to thank which continues to contribute towards the Presidential him Mr Speaker. I also want to continue thanking him Housing Appeal. because during his time, he introduced a number of programmes that favoured Batswana; that were citizen As I have mentioned Mr Speaker, the resuscitation of centred. We can give an example; one of my favourite cultural activities is very, very important. That alone has programmes that was introduced by Rre Khama was the also addressed the argument raised on the other side of Presidential Housing Appeal, which was the first of its the aisle, on the Opposition side that this Government kind Honourable Speaker, and he managed to achieve has contributed to cultures disappearing. We had a or to hand over over 700 houses to the needy Batswana. leader and we continue to have a Government in place Personally that alone greatly touched me; the spirit of that is going to ensure that all cultural activities in this helping the less privileged members of our society. country and practices are adhered to. You name all tribal He also came up with youth friendly policies. He groups in this country, my favourite group in the North introduced in his tenure Affirmative Actions to favour East Region which brings about Ntogwa, that is one of young people. We saw the Ministry of Youth, Sport and my favourite traditional dance groups. Culture growing in that period, introducing a number You talk about Seperu in Okavango and Chobe, Diware, of programmes, targeting women and other vulnerable …(Inaudible)… all those have been resuscitated and this members of society. has continued to the civic education that Honourable ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL Rantuana was asking about. These are some of the GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT programmes Mr Speaker, that we continue…, and I (MS TSHIRELETSO): Elucidation. Ke ne ke re ke want to thank the former President Rre Khama for such mo tlatsa ka gore Honourable Mangole, yo o neng a and wish him good rest in his retirement. re sekisa, a bua ka Honourable Boko le Honourable Gaolathe a ntse a re hee! wee! ka kwano go na le Mr Speaker, turning into the SONA, the question one mathata, ga a yo fa. Yo o neng a re ga a dira le fa e le should ask is; who is the official spokesperson of this sepe. Ke tsone tseo. Tanki rra. nation; who has been given the responsibility to be able to report on behalf of this nation. Mr Speaker, MR ARONE: Thank you Honourable Member. the answer is very obvious, it is none other than the Sometimes when people speak, you ask yourself what Chief Spokesperson of the ruling party itself, because has gone wrong. Honourable Mokgware, you know Batswana some years ago in 2014, gave the BDP the when you are opposing, you have to be very, very mandate to rule and as such the President of the party careful, lest you render yourself irrelevant, because then becomes the Chief Spokesperson of the nation. when you say nothing has been done, when even little children can attest to what has been achieved, then you Mr Speaker, let me move on. I am talking about the current risk rendering yourself irrelevant. Young people around President of the ruling party as the official spokesperson. the country are happy with a number of initiatives; Now I have to address the unofficial statement from take for example the programme e ya Constituency the unofficial Leader of the Opposition. I do not know Tournament, the Constituency Traditional Competitions, whether he is the Leader of the Opposition or leader of which has played a role. Some of us as young as we fragmented pressure groups that parade themselves as are, I never knew there was a dance that has become parties. I will have to wait to be told if indeed… I want so popular as Polka; because of his efforts, he made to proudly thank my President. A humble, charismatic sure that he revived and we continue even today as the President and transformational leader Rre Masisi for Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), as the Government having presented an all-encompassing State of the in power to make sure that our cultures in this country Nation Address, taking into consideration the past from are resuscitated and as a country, as we diversify our his predecessor, talking about the present and the future. tourism in this country, we can also introduce cultural I want to thank him for coming more clearly about our related tourism Mr Speaker. plans and our priorities Mr Speaker. This Government is ready to transform this economy. MR SEGOKGO: Clarification. Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you Minister. Ke ne ke re without any ounce of Before I do that, let me address part of what Honourable sarcasm or anything, e le just on a need to know basis, Boko raised. To start with, the Umbrella for Democratic this Presidential Housing Appeal; is it ongoing or it has Change (UDC), cannot come into this House and claim stopped with the former President? Thank you. that they are a Government in waiting. How can you

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be a Government in waiting, when you are fragmented? HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… How can you be a Government in waiting, when you are conflict-ridden? How can you be a Government MR ARONE: …(Laughter!)… Honourable Member, in waiting, when Honourable Boko cannot not even fa re le mo mantlwaneng one ao, gone gotwe ke tle mo just run a party? We have heard reports of Botswana Palamenteng, ke tle go nna ke ntse ke lebelela gore… National Front (BNF) failing even to address its leader HONOURABLE MEMBER: Shadow. attending to Central Committee meetings. How can there be a Government in waiting, when Honourable Dr MR ARONE: Gotwe ke shadow. An image of a Minister Mmatli is not aware whether he is part of the UDC or of Education. not? How can you be a Government in waiting… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… MR ARONE: Ke gore o itse dilo tsa kwa mantlwaneng MR ARONE: Indeed there is a difference between tota, tsa diketo. reality and dreaming. We are in Government, we are not dreaming to be in Government. We know what we are HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… talking about and the BDP Government is in power and MR ARONE: So, because I am a serious Member of has got the experience to do that. Parliament, I take myself serious in the responsibility MR KGOROBA: Elucidation. Thank you honourable. bestowed upon me by my people, I then took a decision Ke ne ke batla o tlhatswe e ya ga Dr Mmatli. Dr Mmatli gore no, I cannot go on Honourable Rantuana to be in ke yo o ntse mo ditilong tsa UDC. O raya jang? a…

MR ARONE: Mr Speaker, I do not want to dwell much HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. on this, it is very clear, we are all aware that there are MR ARONE: Honourable Members, I want to continue cases at the courts about the umbrella group, they are not and finish. Let me yield for the last time. at peace. I want to thank Honourable Kgoroba. I wish Rre Keorapetse was here. The Botswana Congress Party MR SEGOKGO: Clarification. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa (BCP) should be the last party Honourable Segokgo Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. A mme Honourable Arone, to talk about unity, these fellows are completely ga se gore jaanong o dumele mo Setswaneng se se reng, disindigenous, they cannot be trusted. “mmamotse o bonelwa mantlwaneng” ka o bonwe kwa mantlwaneng le wena? HONOURABLE MEMBER: Wa rialo? MR ARONE: Whatever that Setswana says or is trying MR ARONE: Yes, they cannot be trusted because I was to explain, the fact of the matter is fa e le gore motho in the party during that time. I was one of the people o bonelwa kwa mantlwaneng, o bonwa ke batho ba ba who was hated and singled out because during that time, tlhwaafetseng. You cannot spend the rest of your life o I advocated for the umbrella model. Rre Shaleshando tshameka mantlwane. When did Rre Koma start, may knowing him because he is a dangerous dreamer assisted his soul rest in peace, these opposition politics! He tried by people like Keorapetse who can dream o kare ke when he formed a front. E ne e re monnamogolo wa dilo tsa kwa mantlwaneng, wena o tlaa nna Tautona, Modimo a bodiwa gore is front a political party or what? yo mongwe o tlaa nna Minister. They saw themselves A bo a ntse a tshikinya tlhogo a re, “it is a front, it is not taking over power. How can you come up with a slogan a party.” saying that you are ready to lead, even mathematically, it is a completely dangerous ambition. When you only HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mang? have five Members in the House, how can you take over power? MR ARONE: Rre Koma, golo ga a go robetseng. You can see that confusion is still prevailing gompieno. Look HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… at bo Boko, if indeed they are defending the ideals of Botswana National Front and they talk about bahumi MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND on the side of the BDP, they are driving top-of-the- HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (MR SERETSE): range, Range Rovers. If Koma was here, he was going Clarification. Thank you very much Honourable to punish them because that is against the ideals of the Member for yielding. Ke bo ke leboge thata gore o BNF. Rre Kesupile, ga ke ka ke ka mo tsenya dingalo ka bo o le ka kwano, le wena kana o kile wa bona dilo. gore ene tota ke ne ke latela ene ka kwano ka gore mowa Naare golo fale ba ne ba go tlhomile fa kae fa ba dira wa gagwe tota o ka kwano, o goletse ka kwano, o agile mantlwane? ka kwano, mme a tsamaya fela ka mabaka a botshelo.

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: Fale ke serepa fela ka of the budget constraints, we then took a decision as kwa. responsible leadership in the constituency that we are going to use natural resources to build classrooms. Visit HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… that school my brother, you will be shocked because HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ene o kwano. they have achieved a lot.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… Now to correct you. Go to Maruapula Primary School, Standard 6D and look for a beautiful young girl called MR ARONE: Mr Speaker, Batswana should not make Vanani Arone. You will find my daughter there. That a mistake. I want to thank the Alliance for Progressives was just to correct you Honourable Member. I was (AP) under the leadership ya ga Rre Motlotlegi Gaolathe. just thanking Honourable Kgoroba and Honourable You know for the first time Dr Butale, you Members Mokgware to come out clear as opposition members gave a very good presentation in responding. I can see to tell the Botswana Congress Party (BCP) that they you are trying to make a distinction between yourselves should… and the other group of dreamers. I want to congratulate that because even when listening to your presentations, MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION one could pick certain things. When you are criticizing, AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MAKGATO): you are able to accept what other people have done, Elucidation. O tshwanetse o papamale ka boammaaruri you are able to acknowledge that you are in this House, o re, “Honourable Kgoroba ga a bue boammaaruri. capable of speaking the Queen’s language because of You are misleading Ntlo e gore o re, bongwanake ba this Government. When you say the education system is tsena kwa English Medium School.” Kana o utlwile useless, this education system is incapable of producing o re, Maruapula. O mo tlhalosetse gore o tsena kwa any, surely, is Boko okay? I do not think even our little sekoleng sa ga Goromente se se bidiwang Maruapula lovely daughters will agree with him. You and I are Primary School, gore Batswana ba itse gore ga a bue raising beautiful girls. They are capable of speaking boammaaruri. English, your kid is a Kalanga, mine is Mbukushu and MR ARONE: Proudly so, thank you Honourable Xhereku but they are capable of speaking the Queen’s Member. I am talking about Maruapula Primary School. language. If you throw Boba with due respect and Kemo A school in the education system that I am so thankful in the United Kingdom (UK), they will survive because for. I am currently the Minister, Honourable Kgoroba. of the good policies of this Government. I want to prove to Batswana that indeed, Batswana We have to admit Mr Speaker, there are challenges but should have confidence in our education system. There it is wrong for someone who call himself an Honourable are challenges but as Government, we are taking up Member to come and rubbish everything and say there measures to ensure that… I will talk about that later on; is nothing completely. time is not on my side Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order. Let me lastly thank Honourable Kgoroba and Rre Mokgware to have mentioned and made it clear that MR SPEAKER: Yes, what is the point of order BCP is the main problem in the Umbrella group. As long Honourable Kgoroba? as they are there, because they are dangerous dreamers, MR KGOROBA: Point of order. Mr Speaker, the they are dangerously ambitious, there will be no unity. Honourable Member is misleading this House by saying It is unfair and unfortunate for the hopeless Honourable his two beautiful girls speak good English because of the Salakae to come here and pray for peace. He cannot education system whereas the Honourable Member’s come here and pray for peace within the opposition beautiful daughters go to a private school, they do not group when there is no leadership. You have a leader go to a public school. Honourable Segokgo who despises everything. He is the most intelligent person that has ever happened in MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa, ga se point of order. O ka bo o this world. He talks about how uneducated teachers are mo reile wa re a tlhamalatse selo seo, le se ka la nkgogela and you guys are begging votes from teachers. That is mo dikgannyeng tse ke senang bosupi le tsone. the type of leader you want to make Batswana vote for.

MR ARONE: Mr Speaker, I will invite the Honourable Mr Speaker, let me continue, Honourable Segokgo, Member to come with me to a satellite school in my Honourable Boko said Botswana is a dangerous country constituency, at Kajaja Satellite Primary School. We and it is unsafe. That is not true. What are the statistics took a decision because of our policy of providing access saying? Why is everyone fighting to come to Botswana? to each and every child despite where they are, because This is because worldwide, people know Botswana as

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a very safe country. I do not mean zero crime but in that Botswana hosts as many international activities as terms of international statistics and standards, we are possible to ensure that this economy grows. We had rated as a very safe country. Some of us live in the made it clear that rona as the BDP, we need investors in delta where most of our customers are tourists from all this country. A BDP that advocates for empowerment. over the world. They choose Botswana because it is a That is why I am saying the opposition members should safe country. That is why Honourable Members do not familiarise themselves with the current policies because move around with bodyguards like in other countries whatever they are complaining about is being done. I because we remain a safe nation. We have got concerns would listen when an opposition member stands up and and challenges but to come here and say, we are a very complains about implementation pace. It is something dangerous country, it is void of the truth at all. that as Cabinet, and as Government, we are discussing. If you look at the goals and objectives of the National Mr Speaker, Boko continues to allege, you know in his Development Plan (NDP) 11, part of it, top priority presentation on the economy and foreign investment, it ya NDP 11 is monitoring and evaluation. Monitoring is tantamount to xenophobic statement. He is accusing and evaluation because it will be talking to issues of the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) that the President implementation of what has been agreed upon. For us as in his trips abroad, he is trying to favour the foreigners the BDP, it is not a case of foreigners versus Batswana. over the locals, void of truth, it is not true. Botswana It is a case of collaboration, seeking and clinching is not an island. Botswana has to create links globally. symbiotic relationship to unleash our potential as a It is very important and you know that very well. Your country. Significantly Mr Speaker, development strides leader stood here, presenting a statement on your behalf made over the last five decades have been achieved and your silence meant that you are in agreement that through partnership with the international community Botswana can exist without creating linkages with the and on that note, we want to thank our development global economies and other countries. partners. Mr Speaker, the other issue… Honourable Boko’s contribution was liaised with xenophobic sentiments, that our country is captured and MS MAKGATO: Elucidation. Ke ne ke sa batle o dominated by foreigners. Where can you find a country in feta kgang e ya ga Boko go supa hypocrisy ya gagwe. this world Honourable Kgoroba, where only the citizens He actually formed a company whose job is to attract exist there? Even the best countries like the Dubai of Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) into Botswana. Most this world, the Switzerland of this world, have been of the people that he attracted here ke ba ba tswang kwa built in partnership with foreign nationals. Therefore, bo Russia le Eastern Europe and he is the President of we should condemn Honourable Boko and even the that company. How dare he comes to this Parliament international community representing this country and says, fa Tautona wa rona a tsamaya openly a sa should condemn that statement as being xenophobic fitlha sepe, a ya kwa mafatsheng a ya go dira botsalano, and irresponsible coming from a leader who claims to that is wrong. That must be his domain a le nosi. be a leader of a country in waiting. Botswana is not an MR ARONE: Hypocrisy at its best Honourable island. We will continue to force strategic partnerships Member and the man cannot be trusted. Allow me to with development partners to speed up developments of quote Mr Speaker from the President’s speech. My our human potential. The President cannot be faulted for President had this to say, “we have since embarked embarking on establishing and networking of alliances on a transformational agenda to lure investors into our around the global village. Mr Speaker, these tours, these country through a revamped investment promotion visits and these efforts will continue because we believe drive which I am leading. We are building the goodwill in them. in the global village”. Mr Speaker, I want opposition On education; Boko and his team got it completely members to familiarise themselves with what the wrong. Our detractors Mr Speaker, should familiarise Government is doing because since His Excellency Dr themselves with our Education and Training Sector took over power, the country has Strategic Plan (ETSSP). If you look at pamphlet number hosted a good number of international events. These one and pamphlet number two; you look at philosophy events have supported the economy of this country on the brigade system, it is clearly outlined in the ETSSP either by transport, hotel in terms of accommodation strategy. and other related businesses. We are going to continue to do that. Who is Boko and the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) to come and tell us that we are ill-advised? The The President has made it publicly loud and clear that he European Union (EU) paid for this programme. Tell me is going to be part of this Government strategy to ensure which country in the world has never been advised by

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the European Union. We are talking about a team of Development Fund (YDF). We are a Government; we experts. Who is Boko and the UDC to come and tell us cannot come with wholesale changes as if we do not that we do not know what we are talking about? know what we are doing. What His Excellency Khama was doing, is what we are continuing with. Of course, Mr Speaker, several strategies are in place. The because of times, we would introduce changes where Education and Training Sector Strategic Plan (ETSSP) necessary in terms of improving our delivery. is the one that informs and advises this nation that we should start introducing early childhood education. The education reforms; I have spoken about ETSSP, and Out of the 557 primary schools that we have, already the introduction of specialisation of subject-teachers at we are at 90 per cent success in terms of enrolling the primary school. The education system will focus on programme. That alone shows that we are getting it schools. If you have watched three days back, Honourable correct. The same programme advocates for the review Dr Mmatli, I was launching Thuto Net. What we are of the structure of the curriculum itself so that at the end trying to achieve, and we are going to achieve with of the day, we then introduce what the programme terms Thuto Net is to try and make our schools completely as ‘pathways’. This alone will talk to the reduction of Information and Communication Technology (ICT) subjects that will be taught at primary. It will also talk integrated. Take Rre Boko to Morwa Junior Secondary to the introduction of specialisation of teacher-subjects School, fa Morwa fela fa, the laboratory is completely at primary school. What type of reforms is Boko talking equipped with gadgets. I was in that school two days about? back observing learners, learning without books, using a soft library. This is what we are going to ensure that we Mr Speaker, I want to move on and briefly talk about achieve, Mr Speaker. the economy. The Honourable Member, Leader of the Opposition, complains that small businesses in The Honourable Leader of the Opposition asked the this country are not supported. He complains that the question; whether Botswana is ready for the fourth informal sector is not looked after in this country. I wish industrial revolution? The answer is yes; we have all Honourable Boko was here; I think it was befitting to the ingredients that the revolution requires a country give him a new name, because he was very excited about to have. We have peace and stability, resources and we Rapitsenyane, he kept on asking how far we were? Boko have the educated members of this nation. The reason stays in Gaborone, and you will ask yourself, how far is why Mr Speaker, we are talking about unemployment, Boko from what is happening, what the BDP is doing first when people talk about unemployment in this around him? One would suspect that sometimes when country, they should start by acknowledging that indeed he speaks, you would confuse him for someone who we are talking about unemployment because the BDP stays far away from the city, and who is technologically has done so well in educating its human resource. It challenged. is very important to acknowledge that. Like any other country, now we have a challenge that because we have Mr Speaker, let me move on. Honourable Boko says done very well in terms of training and educating our the President’s speech lacked new strategies. The people, then the next priority is to ask the Government President spoke about the revamped strategy to bring where the jobs are. Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in this country. That is the strategy on its own. Honourable Boko chose to say, Let me give you an example Honourable Kesupile, there was no strategy. The first victim of the President’s where the jobs are coming from. There are a number instruction was Honourable Makgato. She was the first of ICT graduates roaming the streets, students who to be instructed to ensure that her ministry makes it have done Computer Sciences, ICT, whatever related easy for investors to enter this country. Those are new courses, are in the streets. As the Ministry of Basic reforms. For the first time, we are talking about the Visa Education, this Government has managed to introduce being issued on arrival. That is a new reform. I hope computers in each primary school you can talk of, you are taking notes Honourable Kesupile, to come and even in the periphery. The Honourable Member who educate Honourable Boko. was saying Batswana are hopeless under the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), his constituency was the The revamped Integrated Support Programme for first (the Ghanzi region) to benefit from the Microsoft Arable Agricultural Development (ISPAAD); the partnership with our ministry, with this Government, to President spoke about how we are going to review the ensure that computers are installed in each and every current ISPAAD programme to make it easier, and make primary school in that region. Now because we have subsistence farming easier for Batswana. We are going 570 or so primary schools, when we introduce lab to review the Livestock Management and Infrastructure technicians in every primary school, tell me how many Development (LIMID) programme and the Youth jobs we are going to create? Being in Government is

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different from a Government that you experience when and more especially that the bridge would have a rail- you are dreaming. You take steps. You learn from your line on Mr Speaker. That talks about the seriousness of management processes. As we are saying Mr Speaker, I this Government. do not know how far Rre Boko is from all these realities that can be seen even by the blind people. We want to thank the Government again Mr Speaker, for the primary hospital that is being built; it is a 62 Mr Speaker, the other strategy talks to the Special bed hospital in Shakawe that will provide services to my Economic Zones (SEZs) and talks to the resources people. We have got three big water treatment plants that found in those areas. The authority has been set up, and are being constructed in my area Mr Speaker. I want to there is a Chief Executive Officer (CEO) responsible for thank the Government, that alone shows commitment, the authority itself, and we are looking forward to the contrary to what has been said to people in believing implementation of this strategy. As the Ministry of Basic that this Government is anti-communities that live in Education, part of our strategy to ensure that there is peripheral areas. quality education system, is upgrading the qualification of teachers. Go and check the statistics of how many We want to thank the private sector also Mr Speaker, they teachers have been sent to school, because we want to are constructing a big mall in Shakawe, that would go a achieve quality in our schools. long way in contributing employment in the communities and also add esthetic look in our area. For the first time, We are expediting renovation for maintenance of we would have Nandos le Chicken Licken in Shakawe schools. We have the budget. We are talking to our so that Honourable Rantuana fa a ya rally kwa Shakawe, processes and systems to ensure that by the end of the a se ka a paka Nandos from Gaborone, e tlaabo e le teng financial year, a number of good schools have been kwa Shakawe Mr Speaker. There are many projects Mr renovated and books have been supplied to schools. Speaker, but I have started negotiations or talks with the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development; MR KGOROBA: On a point of clarification Mr Honourable Tshireletso, to consider building Tribal Speaker. Honourable Member, do you believe we can Administration offices in Skondomboro and Etsha. We reform our education system and make progress with want to thank you that in Etsha 1, Samochima, Kauxwi automatic progression still in place? and Tobera, they have started to construct such kind of buildings of Tribal Administration blocks. MR ARONE: Thank you very much for bringing up that point. Remember before you came in Honourable Mr Speaker, we do have challenges. I want to thank Member, there was a Motion that was discussed, and the President and the Government that the challenges it was passed in this House. We are discussing possible that we have in my constituency are related to human- steps that we need to take to try to correct that anomaly. wildlife conflict. I want to thank the President for It is undesirable. We need to talk to that. Even on our having initiated the consultation talks within the nation side, we do believe that is undesirable. about what we should do about human-wildlife conflict Mr Speaker. Personally Mr Speaker, I believe the Motor Mr Speaker, let me talk to my constituency. May be Vehicle Accident (MVA) Act should be amended to before talking about my constituency because of time, include people who have been attacked or properties that I will skip some of the points that I wanted to talk have been destroyed by wildlife. That would then speak about. Generally, we want to thank the Government about the concerns in my constituency Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, as the people of Okavango Honourable Rantuana, represented by myself in this Parliament, are I want to submit Mr Speaker, as we review hunting, I very happy that Government has responded in providing would support a strategy whereby hunting would only infrastructural development in their constituency, … be allowed and managed by community trusts instead (Laughter!)… leading to your candidates complaining of being open to the whole nation. By doing that Mr that the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) is buying Speaker, we would promote the Community Based votes with pumping a lot of developments in that area Natural Resources Management (CBRNM) Policy instead of celebrating. We talk about a bridge; a multi- because the communities would be able to then get billion bridge Mr Speaker, that has created a number some profits in terms of royalties from the hunters. of jobs. We are very happy and thankful for the bridge Mr Speaker. Not only that bridge in Okavango, we are Mr Speaker, I wish to submit again that as we review talking about connectivity and improving infrastructure the land ownership strategy, we should consider that in the country, the Kazungula Bridge that then concessions in prime areas should only be given to local coordinates this country with a number of Southern people so that they can go into joint venture partnerships African Development Community (SADC) countries with those who have capital Mr Speaker.

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We are also in talks as Government to ensure that where Mr Speaker, ke lebogela Moeteledipele wa Kganetso we have got gravel roads, they should be passable. ka fa le ene a neng a fiwa sebaka le Moeteledipele wa For example; we have a gravel road from Mohembo Minority wa “do or die” mo Ntlong e. to Seronga. I would appreciate as I am talking to the Ministry of Transport and Communications, if we can Mr Speaker, ke tlaa simolola kwa Page 270 ka mabaka have re-gravelling between Ngarange and Mogotlho, a gore kana mo lefatsheng le la Botswana fa o sa bue that is where we have more problems especially during Sekgoa, nako tse dingwe gatwe ga o bue sepe se se ka the rainy season. utlwiwang ke batho. Mo diPalamenteng tse dingwe le mafatshe a mangwe, batho ba bua teme ya bone. Ke Lastly Mr Speaker, I want to talk about some of the sone se e tlaareng mo Palamenteng e e tlang ya kabo ya initiatives that we are discussing as Government, to madi, ke tlaabo ke fetola gore ke bue Sekgoa fela gore try and introduce more especially with the Ministry of le nna ke tle ke bone maemo… Basic Education. We are looking into the possibility Honourable Dr Butale, more especially the schools HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… like Nanogang; the idea is to turn it into a stem centre; MR MAJAGA: … ka gore experience re na le yone go Science, Maths, Technology and Engineering centre feta ba le ba ntsi e bile re tswa kgakala re le mo Ntlong so that students around that area as the school is yone e. Jaanong ke thulaganyo e ke tlaa e dirang. Bangwe strategically positioned between the two arms of the ba ba itseng, re tlhola re le kwa Dipalamenteng tsa University of Botswana, can take advantage to utilise mafatshe a go buiwang Sepotokisi le Sekgoa. We present the laboratories (labs) that are there. As a matter of Motions ka Sekgoa, re eme sentle kwa mafatsheng a a urgency, we want to ensure that we have got model rileng, e seng lefatshe le le lengwe fela jaaka re le mo schools. This year alone Honourable Butale, you are Palamenteng ya Botswana; re le mafatshefatshe. very lucky wena le Honourable Nkaigwa because we are starting with the greater Gaborone schools to ensure that Jaanong ke batla go lebogela Tautona Masisi selo sa they are completely Information and Communication ntlha gore a bo a ntshitse… kana Puso e e bo e dirile gore Technology (ICT) integrated. I want to thank our this Directorate on Intelligence and Security (DIS) boss partners who are helping us to achieve that. a tswe mo setilong se, because lefatshe le was locked, go ntswe fela celebrating, gotwe, “go siame Morena, a Mr Speaker, poor results is the song on the other side kgotso e nne le lona.” Jaanong he did that, ka mabaka a of the aisle and we do admit that there are challenges. gore rona ba re nnang kwa dikgaolong, kwa re nnang le Lastly, I want to talk about what we are doing. If you borradikgwebo ba ba tshwanang le maChina, le dingaka look at this report that I am ready to share Mr Speaker, it jaaka re na le Doctor Kaseba kwa Nata, e ne e le gore is entitled “Happiness study for my ministry.” When you jaanong sengwe le sengwe fela gatwe security. Batho fa talk about teachers, we are addressing their issues and ba batla permits le boagedi, fa ba sa feta ka DIS batho concerns. They are concerned about accommodation ba Modimo ba phirimeletswe ke letsatsi, mme kwa re issues, progression issues and training issues. We are ba tlhoka. Ke leboga go bo rre yo wa DIS boss a bo a having a strategy in place to ensure that we answer that ntshitswe, ka gore ke na le batho ba babedi ba ba neng ba because I have given a very clear instruction that by nkutlwisa botlhoko thata ke le Mopalamente. Mongwe January, I want schools to be ready and start the process wa teng ke ngaka mme le gompieno ga a na dipampiri, of teaching and learning. o tshela fela ka gore ke ne ke ntse ke bua le Minister As I conclude Mr Speaker, because I was waiting for Dorcas Makgato. Ngaka yo o bidiwa Doctor Kaseba, o the always absent Honourable Member of Francistown thusa batho mo Nata. Ke ene ngaka fela wa private mo South as he enters, I conclude my submission. I thank Kgaolong ya Nata-Gweta. Le bo Mma Tshireletso e kile you. ya re ba buisa diphuthego ba na le bothata a ya go ba thusa. Jaanong motho wa Modimo e sa le ka a sokotse I withdraw Mr Speaker. fela ka nako ya ga Kgosi. Go bo gotwe go didimalwe fela, gotwe ke Mosamarea yo o molemo. Ke sengwe MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Ke a leboga Mr sa dilo tse ke di lebogelang Rraetsho Tautona, go bo a Speaker. Ke ne ke re le nna ke tsene mo polelong ya bonye gore dilo a di baakanye, mme a di fetole ka fa le ga Tautona wa lefatshe le la Botswana, wa botlhano ene a ka tsamaisang lefatshe la gagwe ka teng. Rraetsho Dr Mokgweetsi Masisi. Mr Speaker, ke re ke leboge go bo a dirile thulaganyo ya puso ya batho ka MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND batho, e le ya ntlha ya gore a buise (address) Palamente HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (MR SERETSE): On ya lefatshe la Botswana a sena go ikanisiwa go nna a point of order Mr Speaker. Mokaulengwe o ne a e Tautona wa botlhano wa lefatshe le. Ke bo ke tswelela tshwere sentle fa a ntse a bua ka DIS, mme ka a ne a le

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mo moweng, o ne a tlola ditsamaiso tsa Palamente ka ASSISTANT MINISTER OF YOUTH go bua leina. Ke ne ke re gongwe fa a ka le boela kwa EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE morago a bo a nna a tswelela fela, ga gona molato ope. DEVELOPMENT (MR MAKGALEMELE): On a point of clarification Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr MR MAJAGA: Ga ke a ikutlwa ka gore ke ela go tsena Speaker. Honourable Majaga, e rile fa o simolola o rile mo moweng. Mme ke ne ke bua fela ka boeteledipele o batla go itebaganya le page 270, mme ke tseela gore jwa DIS ka fa bo neng bo tswetse lefatshe la Botswana o ne o re wa re paragraph 270. Ke bo ke utlwa fela o ka teng. Sorry, ke e boela morago fa e le gore ke ne ka bua ka DIS ka gore ke ne ke santse ke go reeditse to bua jalo mokaulengwe. Ke re sone selo seo re batla gore check gore ke gone fela fa o feletseng teng. Sa bobedi, thulaganyo eo e tswelele, lefatshe le le bulwe. Lefatshe ke ne ke re fa o bua ka DIS, ke eng re batla to pick an le ga le na batho. Re a itse gore our population e nnye, individual within DIS? Re le Palamente gompieno we mme kana go tshwanetse gore ka boeteledipele jwa rona are supposed to be having a parliamentary committee re le lefatshe, re bulele batho go tla go re thusa go godisa that oversees DIS mme ga re na yone. Have we not itsholelo e. abdicated our responsibility?

Maloba fa ke bua, fa e le gore batho bangwe ba nkutlwile MR MAJAGA: Ke a go leboga motlotlegi. Rraetsho, sentle, fa ba sa nkutlwa ka tsa ga morakile, ke ne ka re nna ke bua ka matshwenyego a e leng gore a ne a ama bangwe ba ka re speech sa ga Tautona ke Baebele. Fa o batho ba kgaolo ya me, a bo a ama le lefatshe. Ya komiti, tsaya sa “Do or Die” ke se, o bo o tsaya sa ga Advocate, lona le le batlotlegi mo Ntlong e ke lona le ka dirang buka e ya Baebele ga e a tshwanela go kgobera ope thulaganyo e o e itseng ka o kile wa nna motho, ga maikutlo. Ke buka e e boitshepo. Baebele e tshwana le tswelelwa le komiti eo ya dirwa. Constitution. E bile mo Baebeleng ditemana di nna di le teng, jaanong ga ke itse gore e ne e ka kgobera ofe Ke bo ke leboga neelano ya Puso e e dirilweng. E ntse maikutlo e le buka ya Morena. Jaanong bangwe ba ne ke page yone eo Rraetsho, fa e le gore ga o a tshola ba e tsaya ba e lebisa kwa le kwa, ba lebala gore mo the State of the Nation Address (SONA). O a e bona? Baebeleng bo Mathaio le Moreri ga ba fetoge. Letlhoko Page kana paragraph, moo ke ga gago o ka nna wa leba, la ditiro President Mogae o ne a bua ka lone, President nna ke go bolelela gore ke fa kae, ka gore gatwe ga go Khama a bua ka lone, le President Sir Seretse Khama a ka ga dirwa a proper transition ya handing over ya wa ntlha o ne a bua ka lone. Le fa o ka ya kwa bo botautona. E dirilwe. Lotlhe le ne le le mo ba bangwe le President Museveni kwa ke neng ke tswa teng maloba ntshitswe le mo dipampiring le apere disutu tse di neng kwa Uganda, ba ntse ba bua ka ditiro. Ga se selo se se di tshosa. Jaanong se se leng teng fela re tshwanetse tlaa fetogang, ka gore le bo Trump tota bo president ba ra leboga gore thulaganyo e dirilwe. Ke bo ke leboge mafatshe a a rileng, go ntse go buiwa ka gone. Letlhoko gore go bo go tlhomilwe Rraetsho His Honour the Vice la ditiro ga se selo se gongwe se tlaa emang. Le yo o tlaa President, Rre Slumber Tsogwane yo o sa bolong go nna tlang a nna president wa bo six fa e le gore e tlaa nna nna a se na maemo batho ba mo lebile a tlhophiwa ke batho. kana Motlotlegi Wynter Mmolotsi, go bua ka letlhoko Ke ne ke na le Honourable Butale maloba kwa Uganda. la ditiro o tlaa nna a ntse a feta ka gone ka gore ga se Heela! o santse o le monnye your Honour, o santse o selo se se emang. Jaanong ke re ke bue gore, mangwe ka tswelela fela go fitlhela. Re bonye batho ba ba tona mafoko fa batho ba a utlwa, ba se ka ba a tsaya ka tsa ba e leng gore ba apara kapari e nngwe e e leng gore ga ga morakile. ke ka ke ka e kaya. So, o santse o le monnye thata, o ka nna wa dira 10 years yone eo o le Vice President, wa tla Ke tsene mo kgannyeng ya sengwe se ke se ratileng wa dira another 10 o le President. Go a go tshwanela. thata mo mafokong a… tota ke tlaa nna ke bua jalo go Ke bua se ke se bonyeng. Fa e le gore o ne o sa ya kwa fitlhela ke tswa mo Palamenteng e. Palamente e ke ya Palamenteng ya Uganda, nna ke bua se ke se bonyeng, go tswa fela le Tautona Rre Masisi ka 2023 a feditse se ke sa se bolelelwang. Jaanong rra, ke lebogela go bo term ya gagwe, ka gore ke simolotse ditlhopho le ene ka o dirilwe jalo ka gore maemo a batliwa ke mongwe le 2004. Le gone ke ya go tswa fela jalo le ene, ke fenya, mongwe, mme wena a ne a go tshwanetse ka gore ga o ke sa tsenngwe ka tsela nngwe. a bolo go nna o fenya since 1994 kana leng, o tla fela o sa bone maemo. Jaaka bo rona jaana re sa nke re a bona, HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… mme ke nako ya gore maemo re a bone…

MR MAJAGA: Ke batla go bua boammaaruri. Ke tlaa HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… ya go tswa ka nako eo le ene. Ke bua ke tlhamaletse gore o tle o mpotse nako nngwe o re o ne o bua jang, MR MAJAGA: Ka mabaka a gore fa re santse re batla gatwe go rileng? Jaanong se ke batlang go se bua fa ke go dira Puso e… kana ke mo page ya ga Motlotlegi gore… Makgalemele ya go neelana Puso. Fa o ya kwa Nata-

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Gweta; 20 years Mopalamente Mudongo Maswikiti ga Fa o ka ya kwa, heela! bo Kgosi ba itumetse e bile ga a ise a fiwe maemo. Ga latela Motlotlegi Ndwapi; 10 o ka ke wa bona ba itshunya dinko mo mererong ya years mme ga a ise a fiwe maemo. sepolotiki. Ba direlwa palaces gape ba na le kingdoms tsa bone koo. Se ke tlaa se dirang, ke tlaa kopa jalo Jaanong kwa dikgaolong tse di tshwanang le tsa rona, go gore gongwe Tautona a ko a dire Commission, re ye to dirisiwa maemo a gotwe, “le tlaa nna le tlhopha batho benchmark fa Uganda, e tlaa re le tswa kwa o tlaa bona ba ba sa diriweng boTona. Re batla go itse gore nnaare bogosi jwa rona bo nna le kgololesego ya jone, bo re maemo a a boTona, a tshwanetse ba ba ntseng jang?” tlogela sentle mo Ntlong e. Ka rialo, ka mabaka a ke a Ba rialo kwa kgaolong ya rona. Re tlaabo re lebile fa. boneng ka fa go diriwang ka teng. Mopalamente Mfa o tsene 15 years; o tsere 12 and a half years, a bo a tsena a le Assistant a bo a ntshiwa a Mr Speaker, maloba fa Tautona… ke dumalana le ise a fetse term. Mopalamente Makosha o feditse, nna Motlotlegi Rraetsho Salakae, a re lefatshe le le tlaa nna ke fetsa five. Kwa North East Region, batho ba nnile la kagiso. Lefatshe le tlaa nna la kagiso ka gore ga e Matona botlhe. Ke gore fa go na le diphuthego kwa, ka ke ya re Tautona… fa e ka bo e le kwa mafatsheng ga nke ke nna le Molaodi ka gore ga ke Tona. Jaanong a mangwe, ga e ka ke ya re o fiwa setilo o bo o nna o maemo a ka ke a a berekela mo nakong e, a ntshwanetse ntse o dira some bilateral relations, o nna o ntse o ya ka gore ke ntse ke na le President Dr Masisi, batho ba mafatsheng jaaka Tautona Dr Mokgweetsi Masisi. O ne sena le ene. a ya jalo ka gore o ne a itse gore mo Botswana, Batswana ke barata-kagiso, gape o tlogetse Mothusi wa gagwe. Fa HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… e ka bo e le kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, ga o ka ke wa re o ikana fela o bo o ntse o tsamaya le mafatshe o ntse HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ipuelele rra! o batla to introduce yourself gore you are now one of MR MAJAGA: Ee. Ke kgang e ke tleng ke e bue. Ke them. O dirile jalo a tshosologile ka gore o ne a itse gore kile ka e bua le mo Ntlong e ke re ga ke ka ke ka endorse Batswana ke barata-kagiso. O dirile jalo a itse gore o ope, a re ye go dira Puso. Fa o bua jalo, gatwe Motlotlegi tlogetse Mothusi wa gagwe, lefatshe le tlaa tsamaya. Go Majaga ga a bue sentle; no! na le batho ba ba batlang go tlhakatlhakanya. Maloba ke ne ke seyo, ke fitlhela gotwe ke mo “New Jerusalem.” HONOURABLE MEMBER: Your time! Heela! Dirang bo “New Jerusalem” koo. Lona ba le neng le le koo ka nako eo le e ja koo, re tlogeleng, le ye MR MAJAGA: Ga ke na mathata le nako, ke na le kwa bo “New Jerusalem!” Le batla to tint us. Maloba experience, e o ka e batlang, wa e bona. le ne le le kwa, lotlhe o fitlhela le le koo, re sa itsewe. Jaanong dilo tseo, a di eme mo lefatsheng le... Maloba ke ne ke bua ke raya Motlotlegi Rre Kablay ke re, ga se ka universities malatsinyana a; bo Motlotlegi HONOURABLE MEMBER: Bone mme ba Molao ke ba ba ntse ba dira Master’s Degree, le rona ...(Inaudible).... re ka nna ra ya mo go tse dingwe tse, e bile re ya go dira thulaganyo, wa dira Master’s Degree le Doctorate MR MAJAGA: Ee! E tlhamaletse. Gakere le ne le fa e le gore ke sengwe se se rileng. Go iwa bosigo; ke tlhola le le koo lotlhe? Ke rona fela ba re neng re le kwa, dikolekole fela. jaanong re batla go ntshiwa kwa. Ee, ba ne ba le kwa; letsatsi leno ba batla gore ba tle go re thibela diphatlha. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... MR MAJAGA: Ga se sepe se e leng gore fa e le gore go batliwa pampiri e gotweng Doctorate, se e leng gore MR MAJAGA: Aah! Waitse ke tshaba mapolotiki. se ka palela ope gore a nne le sone. Fa o ya kwa East HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... Africa, kwa ke neng ke le teng maloba kwa Uganda, ba bangwe e bile ba a di reka. Kana tse dingwe o fitlhela MR MAJAGA: We are tinted kwa gore yo le ene a re o sa itse gore di tserwe jang. Ke buisiwa se ke gore bone o kare re kwa. Nnyaa, a batho ba boele kwa ba maemo a a a re tshwanela; re dirile Puso gore re a fiwe neng ba le teng. ka experiences tsa rona. Ke fetile ka eo. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... Sengwe se ke tlaa kopang President Dr Masisi ke gore a dire Commission e e ka dirang gore bo Kgosi ba MR MAJAGA: Ga ke boke Tautona Dr Masisi ka gore dirwe jang. Ke bua se ka gore maloba ke ne ke le kwa ke fa kana ke lopela maemo jaaka bangwe ba dira. He is lefatsheng le go tlwaelesegileng gore go ka nna le to a good father of my kids jaaka Tautona Khama a ne a le overthrow the Government of the day. I think le a itse good father ya ga Rre Tawana, e bile ke ene motho wa gore Idi Amin o tswa kwa Uganda; re le tsamaile rotlhe. ntlha go nkutlwisa sefofane.

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: A godfather! Sengwe gape se e leng gore ke tlaa se kopa gore se dirwe for investments, ke tlaa kopa gore as a matter of urgency, MR MAJAGA: Ee, ke batla go bua boammaaruri. go ye go dirwa tsela e e tswang kwa Sir Seretse Khama Gompieno ka gore ke nako e e rileng, go batliwa gore go International Airport, e nne dual carriage. Go bonwe bo go dirwa dilo tseo, nnyaa. Ke tlhalositse gore batho gore jaanong fa o tswa kwa airport o tsena kwano, you ba ba batlang maemo le Puso, a ba ye kwa bathong ba ye are coming go tla go dira investment. Gompieno jaana go dira Puso, ba bo ba tla ba thusa President Dr Masisi it is locked ka gore ke tsela fela e e one-way. Gongwe ba tla ka dirwe tsa gagwe, ba tswe mo go tse dingwe tse ke yone e le tlaa dirang gore le bo le ka e fa leina la ga e leng gore di tlaa re. Kgang eo e tlhamaletse. Dr Mokgweetsi Masisi. Akere airport e beilwe gotwe Ke tsena mo go tsa lefatshe. Re nne re tlogela dilo ke ya ga Sir Seretse Khama, ee, le yone highway ele, tse di ntsi Mr Speaker; creation of employment. Re le go tswa from the airport go tsena fale re tlaa e neela lefatshe la Botswana re ka dira dilo tse tharo kana tse leina leo. Go bo go bulwa, so that ga go ka ke ga nna pedi. Dilo ka bo ntsi re di dirile batho betsho e bile re le a one-way ya go ya kwa airport, mme re re re batla tlaa tswelela re di dira. Go tsamaya ke go bona, e bile a conducive environment ya the business community, re fa e ka bo Palamente e, three arms of Government… I ngoka bagwebi go tla kwano. will urge gore Parliament e nne independent. Ke kgang Selo sengwe se re ka se dirang ke gore, universities e ke tlholang ke e bua, so that e nne fully-resourced; tsa rona di lekane. We have three major universities. bo Speaker, Matona, ba nne le escorts fela jaaka kwa Jaanong, ga go ka tsena bo Botho University, bo mafatsheng a mangwe. Gompieno re bona gore kwa Limkokwing, nna ga ke bone gore re nne re tlatsa Judiciary, o ya go fitlhela ba tlhokomelwa, ba rekelwa universities tse di ka tshwarang bo four, re di isa kae dikoloi, Mapalamente a a sala. The other arm is being tse dingwe? Let them affiliate mo universities tsone tse. left e sa fiwe tse di tshwanetseng but we are at par. Palo yone e ya bana ba ba ntsi ba, re ba tseye, re dire Our Government must consider go baakanya golo moo programme Mr Speaker, e re tlaa nnang re tsaya bana ka bonako jo bo sa fediseng pelo; these three arms of gongwe ba le 400 or 300, in the next two years, re ba ise Government. Kwa mafatsheng a mangwe, go setse go kwa Israel, ba ye go ithutela temo ya komelelo, e re ba diragala. Ke mono fela mo o bonang Speaker sa rona se tla kwano ba leme… sena escort, se sena eng, we should be going there. HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR Then ke bo ke re gore lefatshe le le tlhabologe le go TSOGWANE): Clarification. Ke sa go jele nako feta, le go fokotsa manokonoko a tlhoko ditiro, re motlotlegi, ke tsaya gore o e tshwere sentle. Kana se o tshwanetse ra ikamogela, re a itse gore our population se buang se ke bothata jwa mindset, ke gore you want mo business setup e nnyennyane; e batla strategies them to put on a new frame of mind, gore e se ka ya nna tse di tseneletseng. Gore re bo re tsaya madi otlhe motho a iteba a re ke ya go dira kgwebo ya me fale, ke fela re neela batho re re bo Citizen Entrepreneurial ya go dira semausunyana sa me ke le nosi fale. Development Agency (CEDA) ke bao, botlhe ba dira businesses tse di rekisang magwinya, no, re tlaabo re sa MR MAJAGA: Ke a leboga Your Honour. So fa re ka rarabolola sepe. A ba Ministry wa Investment, Trade and dira jalo ra tla le that programme, re tlaa tsaya bana ba Industry le Goromente, le nna ke le mo teng, re tlhame rona in the next three years re ba isa kwa Israel, kwa some corporative businesses, re bolaye bo National lefatsheng le e leng gore le na le komelelo e e fetang e. Development Bank (NDB). Go ba bolaya ke raya gore Ba ya go ithuta go lema mo go tseneletseng. Fa ba tla we should privatise them; 50 per cent Government, 50 kwano mo sekakeng, re bo re tla re ba neela masimo per cent private sector. Bo Roads, we have got a lot of a bo Panda, Dukwi, Barolong le a mangwe, a mangwe assets tsa Roads ya Botswana, re e dire kompone e e batho ba a filwe ga ba leme mo go one; ba bo baka tlaa tlang e direla Batswana ditiro; 50 per cent Botswana ntsha dijo. Mr Speaker, we are losing a lot of money Government and 50 per cent shareholding. Batho ba to import food. Mo population ya Botswana re nna re e leng gore ba a bo ba berekile Puso, ba bo ba ya to import food from South Africa, No! We are supposed to join dikompone tseo ba sutela bana mo ditirong. Those be self-sufficient when it comes to food. will be multi-national companies tse di tlaabong di dira Fa re ka dira programme eo, ba bangwe re bo re ba isa ditiro le kwa mafatsheng a mangwe. Fa go ka bo go na ba ya go ithuta dikoporase, gore ba tle ba dire dikgwebo le company e e ntseng jalo, e ka bo gompieno e ya go tse di rileng e le Batswana. Ministry of Trade le one tsaya ditiro kwa Uganda e dira, ga ba na ditsela; these o initiate ka fa o ka dirang ka teng, re tlaa bona re ya dual carriage, ga go na. Mo toropong from one office to golo gongwe. Madi a ma ntsi a e leng gore we spend another, go tsamaiwa bo four hours, so company ya rona mo lefatsheng le is to import food, but we have good e ka bo e ya go dira ditsela. soils, re na le sengwe le sengwe, nnyaa, kwa nameng

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ga ke bue ka gore re na le dikgomo le dihutshane. Se se leng teng fela ke go baakanya tsamaiso ya rona ya go tsamaisa Botswana Meat Commission (BMC), e e leng gore o kare e a nyelela, then re tlaabo re ya golo gongwe. Fa re ka nna fela gotwe re ruta batho, batho ba tlaa tlala mo, la bofelo mongwe le mongwe e tlaabo e le professor, yo mongwe a re I have done Doctorate, e a jewa?

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)…

MR SPEAKER: E tshware gone foo Honourable Majaga. Honourable Members, before I call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment, let me once again remind you of this very important event that would be held tomorrow morning, from 7:30a.m. to 9:30a.m. at the Cresta Lodge. It is the commemoration of the 16 Days of Activism Against Gender Based Violence. Jaanong, ke kopa gore kamoso phakela le bo le le koo batlotlegi; 7:30a.m. to 9:30a.m. kwa Cresta Lodge. It is a breakfast meeting, so there will be breakfast.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, a batlotlegi ba ye go itheetsa.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Tuesday 27th November, 2018 at 2:00 p.m.

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ANNEXURE I

NO NAME OF COMPANY GPO DESCRIPTION TENDER DATE AMOUNT (Pula) Botswana National Productivity Centre 1. Grandways Annual Report Design 70 000.00 and layout 2. Studio Mix BNPC TV Advert 88 800.00 3. Lingano Media BNPC Corporate Video 70 000.00 4. Ina Lebe (Pty) Ltd Souvenir 25 950.00 5. Ghetto urban design Road Show 16 000.00 6. Kwanda (Pty) Ltd Corporate photography 9 700.00 and Videography 7. Voss BW Limited Conference tickets 6000.00 8. Tersara Promotional Material 122 540.00 9. Matths Holding Image optimisation- 6 000.00 Website 10. Tebbie Mos Catering & Deco Conference Decoration 12 200.00 Sub total 426 990.00 INDUSTRIAL COURT 11. Royal Dish and Catering 06/04/2018 Catering for 10 officers 3,137.00 services 12. Noot Investments Catering 13/04/2018 Provision of afternoon tea 2,721.00 Services (Pty) Ltd for 81 people for the team building exercise which was held on the 25th of October 2017 13. Riversun Holdings (Pty) Ltd 16/04/2018 6% minimum wage 2,970.00 t/a Green Grass Green increase for grounds from 01/11/2018 to 31/03/2018 14. Business House Innovation 25/04/2018 Office Cleaning @ 18,656.98 (Pty) Ltd Industrial Court 15. Ben’s Enterprises (Pty) Ltd 11/04/2018 Newspapers (The Star) 35,620.00 Magazines Business Day Newspaper Sowetan Newspaper Citizen 16. Cape Cord Holding (Pty) Ltd 13/04/2018 Baracuda Pacer (Head 1,412.00 Only) Kreepy Krauly Pool Cleaner Zodiac MX8 Pool Cleaner

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24. Riversun Holdings (Pty) Ltd 24/04/2018 Provision of grounds, t/a Green Grass Green garden maintenance and supply of treated water for garden at the 10,494.00 Industrial Court Gaborone as from the 1st May 2018 to 31st May 2018 25. Riversun Holdings (Pty) Ltd 24/04/2018 Provision of grounds, t/a Green Grass Green garden maintenance and supply of treated water for garden at the 10,494.00 Industrial Court Gaborone as from the 1st June 2018 to 30th June 2018 26. Sonmarc Investments (Pty) 26/04/2018 Court Case File 500 in a 15,400.00 Ltd ream 27. Sign View Investments (Pty) 11/05/2018 Repair of electric and 6,850.00 Ltd manual binding machines at Machine Room x 1 28. Tsalona Construction & Civil 04/06/2018 Being provision of service 2,600.00 Engineering (Pty) Ltd to supply and fitting of a Sink Mixer Cobra including labour in the offices of Industrial Court Francistown 29. Alcum Investments (Pty) Ltd 07/05/2018 Fax Machine x 3 43,008.00 30. Whale Security Services (Pty) 25/04/2018 Provision of 24 hours 24,266.35 Ltd security services to Industrial Court Gaborone Offices from the 01/07/2018 to the 31/07/2018 31. Whale Security Services (Pty) 25/04/2018 Provision of 24 hours Ltd security services to Industrial Court Gaborone Offices from the 01/08/2018 to the 31/08/2018 32. Machola Technologies (Pty) 07/08/2018 Procurement of desktop 46,800.00 Ltd computer- Intel Core i3, 3.0 GHZ, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Windows 10, 15’’ LED Monitor to be used in the offices of IC F/Town and network printer 3 in 1 colour printer- Laser, Up to 21 PPM

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17. Whale Security Services (Pty) 25/04/2018 Provision of 24hrs Ltd security guarding at Industrial Court Gaborone 24,266.37 offices for a period of 12 months as from 1st April 2018 to 31st March 2019 18. 27/04/2018 Being procurement of 9,390.30 Domestic Furniture Mr Min Polish used in IC Offices, Toilet Paper 2ply 5 bales 48 rolls, Windoline 750ml, Liquid Bonhope Enterprises (Pty) Ltd Soap 25l green, Toilet Spray 275ml Airoma Lavender/Strawberry, Handy Andy 25l, Pine Gel 25l, Disposable Cups pack of 1000 19. 27/04/2018 Being furniture Chair 9,650.00 Typist for Executive Secretary and Court Iremo Holdings (Pty) Ltd Bailiff officers in IC Offices and Chair Middle Management 20. Lebo’s Catering (Pty) Ltd 15/05/2018 Provision of meals for 2,934.40 20 people conducting an Auction Sale on the 04/06/2018 Morning Tea (Chicken Gizzards, Ox Liver, Samosa, Scones, Diphaphatha, Sandwiches and 100% Juices, Buffet Lunch (assorted Drinks, Dessert and 500ml Bottled Water 21. Whale Security Services (Pty) 25/04/2018 Provision of 24 hours 48,532.74 Ltd security services at Industrial Court Gaborone Offices as from 1st May 2018 to 30th June 2018 22. Whale Security Services (Pty) 09/04/2018 Provision of 24 hours Ltd security services at Judges’ residences in 43,041.60 Gaborone 1st May 2018 to 31st May 2018 23. Whale Security Services (Pty) 14/06/2018 Provision of 24 hours Ltd security services at Judges’ residences in 43,041.60 Gaborone 1st May 2018 to 31st May 2018

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39 14/08/2018 Being procurement of Stationery: Toner CE 410A used in IC F/Town, Toner 505A, Samsung express M2020W Panox (Pty) Ltd (M202/207), CF 283A, 16,626.50 Crystal Black Pen medium BIC, Crystal Red Pen medium BIC, Glue Stick, Staples small 26/6 and Correction Pen 40 14/08/2018 Being procurement of Stationery: Toner Canon 725 used in the offices of IC F/Town, Toner CE Panox (Pty) Ltd 530A, Toner CE 531A, 20,831.90 Toner CE 532A, Toner CE310A, Toner CE 311A, Toner CE 313A and Toner 390A Sub-Total 545 198.44 MINISTRY DEPARTMENTS 41. Tshepo Ramadikwane 10/04/2018 Provison of Tent 7 000.00 42 Elite Stones 11/04/2018 Provision of various 880.00 newspapers for MELSD Executive 43. Elite Stones 11/04/2018 Provision of various 964.00 newspapers for MELSD Executive 44. Ketlhaetse Gloria Sheleng 26/03/2018 Provision of catering 1 500.00 services 45. Lilian Sedimo Provision of Tent & 4 215.00 Chairs at Chadibe 46. Innovative Awards 10/04/2018 Provision of Trophies 19 170.00 for Ministry excellence awards 47. Innovative Awards 10/04/2018 Provision of Gifts for 12 000.00 dignitaries at MELSD 48. Innovative Awards 10/04/2018 Provision of Trophies 30 830.00 for Ministry excellence awards 59. Amantle Brown 11/04/2018 Provision of 33 000.00 Entertainment for Ministry excellence awards 50. Israel Khutsahalo 11/04/2018 Provision of red carpet 400.00 51. Ramodie Galebotswe 4 830.00 52 Israel Khutsahalo 10/04/2018 Provision of Chairs 200.00

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33. Labco Group (Pty) Ltd 14/08/2018 Provision of service to 15,000.00 design and print Gen 32 per ream of 100x2 used in IC Offices F/Town and Maun 34. Labco Group (Pty) Ltd 14/08/2018 Being procurement of 5,945.00 Disposable Cups 250ml* 1000 domestic used in IC F/Town, Refuse Heavy Duty Bags per packet and Dashboard Spray assorted 300ml 35. 14/08/2018 Being procurement 1,199.00 of domestic Adaptor Labco Group (Pty) Ltd square to round used in IC Offices F/Town and Adaptor round to square 36. Excellent Printers & Graphics 28/08/2018 Hiring of (Pty) Ltd 6000mmx3000mm Customised Exhibition Stall with panels x12, furniture and décor, 48,992.15 3xOttoman, 2xBar Stools, 2xSingle Couch, 1x Counter Table, 1x49” TV LED, Flowers and Vases 37. Leaf Enviromental Solutions 24/04/2018 Provision of contract (Pty) Ltd for hiring a six (6) cubic meter skip and collection of refuse & disposal of refuse to be carried out 756.00 twice a month as from 1/04/18 to 31/12/18 at Industrial Court, Plot No. 62439, Gaborone (To be paid on monthly basis) 38. 14/08/2018 Being procurement of Stationery: Memory Sticks 8GB used in IC Offices of Industrial Court, Envelopes C5 Panox (Pty) Ltd written OBGS, Batteries 6,295.20 AAA 1.5, Binding Cover hard blue 2 and black 2v packet of 50, Binding Cover clear packet of 100 and Sellotape clear big

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53 Chivoli t/a Judited Enterprises Provision of catering 8 000.00 services 54 Sebaga Rabantheng 27/04/2018 Provision of 6 000.00 Entertainment 55 Tsina Tota 07/05/2018 Provision of Honey 1 655.00 56 Minyamor Provision of Self Inking 8 000.00 Stamps 57 Excel Stationers Provision stationery 4 899.90 58 Golekane t/a Security A-One 08/05/2018 Provision of PPE 1 058.00 69 Excel Stationery Provision of Toners 6 967.60 60 Khwaza Enterprises Provision of food stuff 1 688.30 61 Million park Provision of catering 1 284.00 services 62 Digital Experience Provision of air 48 050.00 conditioners 63 Digital Experience Provision of A/C 7 000.00 installation services 64 Diatox 04/06/2018 Provision of Catering 1 400.00 Services 65 Muabisc Enterprises Provision of Stationery 8 289.50 66 A Re Bolokeng 09/07/2018 Provision of Cleaning 7 000.00 material 67 Bodos Laundry Provision of food stuff 1 560.00 68 Couple twin 25 328.80 79 Dexter Removal 18/04/2018 Plant & Truck Hire 39 200.00 70 Mmali Holdings Provision of Hairdressing 4 284.00 material 71 Goitha Holdings 14/05/2018 Provision of Stationery 39 029.00 72 Letha Invetsment 14/05/2018 Provision of Toners 42 575.00 73 Datect Holdings 12/06/2018 Provision of stationery 33 876.00 74 Sakochas Investment 13/07/2018 Provision of cleaning 45 853.90 material 75 Sakochas 07/07/2018 Provision of cleaning 29 701.00 material 76 Till Tomorrow 11/06/2018 Provision of Stationery 23 868.70 77 Calvin Technology 10/07/2018 Provision of domestic gas 8 400.00 78 Lamp Catering Provision of catering 8 500.00 services 79 Bens Enterprise Provision of Tent 10 200.00 80 Martin Elizabeth Provision of catering 1 000.00 services 81 Bahuma Tshepang Tshokolo Provision of 2 500.00 Entertainment

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82 Bokamoso Kebasitile Provision of catering 3 000.00 services 83 Tsholohelo Creations Provision of Corsages 1 400.00 84 Toms Faith Investment Provision of Tent 7 448.00 85 Thero Kutlwano Kebakuile Provision of 1 000.00 Entertainment 86 Finch Security Provision of Security 1 254.40 Services 87 Cing Marketing Provision of VIP Tent 13 104.00 88 Dilotsotlhe Provision of Protective 5 264.00 Clothing 89 Motso Catering Services Provision of catering 13 664.00 90 Refa Creations Provision of Banners 2 009.30 91 Dilotsotlhe Provision of Protective 3 046.00 Clothing 92 Tajuse Investment Provision of Toners 32 000.00 93 Investo Provision of Stationery 16 030.0 94 Billmore Enterprises Provision of stationery 48 043.70 95 Billmore Enterprises Provision of catering 5 250.00 services 96 Bene Chemical Provision of Cleaning 33 008.10 material 97 Greenline Supplies Office Provision of Stationery 4 747.70 98 Dilotsotlhe Holdings Provision of Protective 8 640.80 Clothing 99 Dilotsotlhe Provision Protective 2 672.40 Clothing 100 Dilotsotlhe Provision of Protective 3 119.20 Clothing 101 Dilotsotlhe Provision of Protective 15 792.00 Clothing 102 Rabantheng Sebaga Provision of 10 000.00 Entertainment 103 Bens Enterprises Hire of Tent 20 200.00 104 Bens Enterprises Provision of newspaper 2 972.25 105 Bens Enterprises 31/10/2017 Provision of newspaper 2 972.25 106 Bens Enterprises 31/10/2017 Provision of Newspaper 2 920.00 for Corporate 107 Bens Enterprises 17/08/2018 Provision of Newspaper 2 972.25 108 Bens Enterprises 17/08/2018 Provision of Newspaper 2 881.50 109 Bens Enterprises 17/04/2018 Provision of Newspaper 2 972.25 110 Multipex Cycle maintenance of 3 498 745.02 Okavango Brigade- building construction

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111 Ndibi construction 22/02/2018 Cycle maintenance of 690 771.49 Okavango brigade- electrical works 112 MASS APPEAL DESIGN 23/08/2018 PROVISON OF 4 668.20 PAINTING MATERIAL 113 TRANK MILE 24/08/2018 PROVISION OF 23 500.00 AGGREGATES 114 FOBE PROJECTS 12/09/2018 PROVISION OF 4 884.30 DOMSTIC SUPPLIES 115 THIRTY FIVE 12/09/2018 PROVISION OF 1 800.00 INVESTMENT POLISH FURNITURE 116 DEE XEE CIVILS 04/07/2018 PROVISION OF 16 000.00 AGGREGATES 117 MACLIFF HOLDINGS 12/11/2018 PROVISION OF 19 880.00 AGGREGATES 118 TIKONET 13/11/2017 INSTALLATION OF 28 224.00 LIGHT BOX 119 ELINATYNA 06/08/2018 PROVISION OF 450.00 BOTTLED WATER 120 RHYTHM INNOVATION 23/08/2018 PROVISION OF 20 020.33 PAINTING MATERIAL 121 TILL TOMMORRO 07/08/2018 PROVISION OF 10 587.02 122 TIKONET 13/08/2018 PROVISION OF 42 367.00 BRICKLAYING MATERIAL 123 OFENTSE INVESTMENTS 13/08/2018 PROVISION OF 11 692.00 DOMESTIC GAS 124 VICKLINCK 23/08/2018 PROVISION OF 30 066.40 PAINTING MATERIAL 125 PARCIMOL INVESTMENT 18/09/2018 PROVISION OF 13 040.00 PAINTING & CARPENTRY MTERIAL 126 MAGERTMA 12/09/2018 PROVISION OF 1 176.00 INVESTMENT PINEGEL 127 LIFEWAY LOGISTIC 03/09/2018 PROVISION OF 17 271.86 STATIONERY 128 MMEREKI REFUSE COLLECTION 6 370.00 GOFHAMODIMO 129 Pack and Sanz Holdings Crushed stones for 6 300.00 maintenance 130 Tindrose investments A5 Table Botswana flag 1 750.00 131 OLM Enterpries Food rations 6 002.56 132 Fakuto Investments Supply transport for 20 000.00 trainees 133 Cee-Air Mule Investments Supply and delivery of 27 635.00 domestic supplies

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134 Fakuto Investments Supply and delivery of 18 672.00 Food rations 135 Jogma Holdings Supply and delivery of 9 200.00 Stationery 136 Fakuto Investments Supply and delivery of 3 239.00 Food rations 137 Hospi Clean Services Supply and delivery of 1 475.00 Food rations 138 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Supply and Replace Pan 22 819.00 connector-CS 139 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Supply and fit pillar taps, 44 443.55 geyser, wall tiles kitchen maintenance-CS 140 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Supply and Replace Pan 22 839.04 connector-CS Floor 6, ladies toilets 141 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Maintenance of floor 3 4 435.20 kitchen 142 Jamxa Construction 26/09/2017 Maintenance of Floor 3 63 669.76 male Toilets-CS 143 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Maintenance of ground 10 783.36 floor kitchen -CS 144 Jamxa Construction 18/10/2017 Maintenance of Ladies 10 236.80 toilets Floor 7 145 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Maintenance of Floor 15 218.56 kitchen geyser 146 Jamxa Construction 25/09/2017 Maintenance of Floor 3 9 811.20 ladies toilets 147 Matyn Contractors 13/10/2017 Alteration of office block 35 520.80 to create board room 148 Matyn Contractors 13/10/2017 Alteration of office block 14 168.00 to create board room 149 Leadfirm Holdings Supply and delivery of 214 732.00 toners 150 The Carbox (Pty) Ltd Supply and delivery of P15 984.60 stationary 151 The Carbox (Pty) Ltd Supply and delivery of P807.50 stationary 152 Erasmo Holdings (Pty) Ltd Supply and delivery of P3 442.60 library books 153 Romlex (pty) ltd Purchase of surge 6,880.00 protectors multi plugs 154 Romlex (pty) ltd Purchase of materials for 5,011.44 maintenance of buildings 155 Urban Minds 18/12/2017 Removal of carpets and 20 888.00 tiling of Lab 2

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156 Kenboth Holdings Collection of grass from 4,120.00 Lobatse Brigades to dumping side 157 Erasmo Holdings (Pty)Ltd 10/08/2017 Supply and delivery of 16, 075.65 library text books. 158 Caught-Out (Pty)Ltd 20/07/2017 Harvey tile roofing and 48, 473.60 fix of 2 staff houses (roundavel houses) 159 Naties Enterprises (Pty) Ltd 11/09/2017 Supply and delivery of 11 886.40 fruits and vegetables for students. 160 OL Management (Pty) Ltd 12/10/2017 Supply and delivery of 30 1 978.50 bags of 10kg samp. 161 Kenboth Holdings (Pty) Ltd 10/10/2017 Collection of rubbles 3 605.00 from Lobatse Brigades to Lobatse landfill 162 Naties Enterprises (Pty) Ltd 20/10/2017 Supply and delivery of 2 852.85 fruits and vegetables 163 MSG Catering Services (Pty) 24/10/2017 Supply and delivery of 3 685.00 Ltd 230 fizzy drinks (330ml and 250 bottled water (500ml) for price giving day. 164 Kushatha investment 17/08/2017 Airfreshner 180mlx60, 15 620.00 pot scourers pack of 50, Vim 10x500ml, Steel wool 10 pack of 20- Nkange Brigade 165 Vintage point 05/09/2017 Name tags- Nkange 240.00 Brigade 166 Etro light 19/09/2017 Portable hard drive ITB, 12 975.00 Envelopes A4 324x239 printed BGP services, Envelopes A3 458x324 printed BGP services, Envelopes A5 229x162 printed BGP services, Minutes book, White board marker assorted colours, Carbon paper pelican 500h, High lighter assorted colors10 pcs, Thumb pins- Nkange Brigade

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167 The Gideon air conditioning 12/09/2017 Services of air cons and 15 620.00 and engineering replacement of electrical components 12000, services of air cons and replacement of electrical components 18000 BTU- Nkange Brigade 168 Pat-Mojey 13/09/2017 Butternuts 10kg, banana 2 516.10 box, onion 10kg, tomato box Nkange brigade 169 King luther pro’o 30/10/2017 Green peppers for 196.00 students-Nkange Brigade 170 King luther pro’ o 06/08/2017 Carrots 10kg weekly 4 120.00 supply, apples, potatoes, green pepper, cabbage bag (weekly supply) 171 Etro Light 19/09/2017 Mail boxes and batteries 1 130.00 (AAA) 172 Romlex (pty) ltd Purchase of materials for 18,194.80 maintenance of buildings 173 Platinum Master (pty)ltd t/ Purchase of materials for 7,162.00 aplatinum builders enterprises maintenance of buildings 174 Junior Igwas Holdings PTY 16/08/2017 Supply and delivery of 26, 250.00 LTD domestic supplies 175 Zip Vission (PTY) LTD 04/09/2017 Supply and delivery of 22, 640.00 tomato suce all gold 4.5kg and fish lucky star 215g Ass 176 Clapback Holdings PTY LTD 20/08/2017 Supply and delivery of 16, 000.00 domestic and household (kitchen cutleries) 177 Genetitouch PTY LTD 23/08/2017 Supply and delivery of 28, 050.00 pavement in front of the Administration Block 178 Scan – Link PTY LTD 07/09/2017 Supply and delivery of 15, 180.00 interlocking bricks heavy duty and river sand for pavement in front of the Administration Block 179 03/10/2017 Supply and delivery of building lime 25 kg for Junior Igwas Holdings 5 904.00 Bricklaying Practicals- Tutume Brigade 179 10/10/2017 Supply and delivery of Kumakula(PTY)LTD various dry food ration – 23 582.00 Tutume Brigade

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180 25/10/2017 Supply and delivery of bottled water for wellness H2O Infinite(PTY)LTD 486.00 activity on the 27/10/17– Tutume Brigade 181 26/10/2017 Supply and delivery of Chibogana(PTY)LTD refreshments for Principal 1 828.00 –Tutume Brigade 182 26/10/2017 Supply and delivery of T J Donovans(PTY)LTD various stationery items– 4 364.80 Tutume Brigade 183 Fakuto Investments PTY 23/02/208 Supply and delivery of 23, 372.00 LTD food rations for trainees 184 Munhu – Wese Investments 09/01/2018 Supply and delivery of 11, 928.00 (PTY) LTD draughting stationery 185 Ndadzoka Travel Tour PTY 07/12/2017 Supply and delivery of 29, 650.00 LTD stationery 186 Antonio Bush Gardens PTY 17/01/2018 Supply and delivery of 46, 810.00 LTD food rations 187 Scotchfield Bakery 05/01/2018 Supply and delivery of bread loaves for trainees 3 880.80 feeding 188 05/01/2018 Cleaning and fumigating Matshwele Investments of school kitchen 15 850.00 189 J.Monks supplies 22/01/2018 Supply and delivery of 8 053.65 assorted stationery 190 Indaba Express 21/12/2017 Supply and delivery of P1 750.90 dessert cream 191 Desire Investment (Pty) Ltd 16/02/2017 Supply and delivery of P1 348.00 domestic supplies 192 Directing Mind Investment 21/12/2017 Supply and delivery of P11 765.80 (Pty) Ltd fruits and vegetables 193 Naties Enterprises (Pty) Ltd 16/02/2018 Supply and delivery of P15 736.00 cool room materials 194 Pack N Sanz Holdings 22/01/2018 River Sand *2 loads- 5,100.00 Boteti Brigade 195 Thetha Nathi Holdings 08/02/2018 Gravel * 2 load, Crushed 3,600.00 stone * 1load- Boteti Brigade 196 Gadza Freezing point 29/01/2018 Maintenance & service of 4 508.00 cold room 197 Kaysam Investment 06/02/2018 Procurement of food macaroni, sugar baked beans garden peas, 5 484.00 mayonnaise, russian and aromat

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198 Kaysam Investment 06/02/2018 Provision of Bread loaf, 5 900.00 sausage p/kg minced meat feeding for student 199 Moshupa toilet paper 13/02/2018 Provision of Toilet Paper 4 100.00 2ply 200 PeakLine Investment 16/02/2018 Provision of toners for 26 295.19 school use. 201 PeakLine Investment 16/02/2018 Provision of toners for 4 092.00 school use. 202 19/02/2018 Provision of Domestic 21 245.62 material liquid soap, Bow saw, leaf rake, pad lock, Zila Investment slasher, squeezez, mobile trolley, towel, floor polish. 203 19/02/2018 Provision of domestic 14 058.76 material Dyroach spray, Doom spray, Tarbard Zila Investment mosquito, air freshener, refuse bags black, batteries, mops, torch, deep freezer. 204 PHUTSHEX INVESTMENT PURCHASE OF 7,473.25 MATERIALS FOR PRACTICAL SUBJECTS (WELDING) 205 SEGOMOTSO OPELO PURCHASE OF 4,165.00 MPONYO T/A UJAMAH MATERIALS FOR SPARE PARTS SHOP PRACTICAL SUBJECTS (UOTO) 206 ROMLEX (PTY)LTD PURCHASE OF 7,728.00 MATERIAL FOR MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINS 207 Wave Knock Investments 17/01/2018 Supply and delivery of 7, 476.00 PTY LTD stationery 208 Insight Security Services 17/01/2018 Supply and delivery of 13, 470.00 (PTY) LTD stationery Diaries 209 Kenrepo Investments 08/02/2018 Supply and delivery of computer consumables 24 784.00 210 09/02/2018 Supply and delivery of Succesful Mind library books 6 069.40 211 Succesful Mind 09/02/2018 Supply and delivery of 2 525.50 library books and texts 212 Shara-la Solutions 09/02/2018 Supply and delivery of 13 890.80 food 213 Scotchfield(PTY)LTD 28/02/2018 Supply and delivery of 5 468.40 bread for students

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214 08/02/2018 Supply & delivery of Richie Dee’s Clinical Services 1, 114.23 Principal’s refreshments 215 22/02/2018 Supply & delivery of West Coat Investments(PTY) 260.00 office stationery-Tutume LTD Brigade 216 22/02/2018 Supply & delivery of Best Tronic Investments 2, 200.00 Protective Clothing 217 22/02/2018 Supply & delivery of Best Tronic Investments 458.15 Protective Clothing 218 West Coat Investments(PTY) 22/02/2018 Supply & delivery LTD of various cleaning 4, 230.00 materials-Tutume Brigade 219 Supply & delivery of Classic Light(PTY)LTD students food-Tutume 3, 498.75 Brigade 220 Supply & delivery of students food-Stewing Easy Navigation(PTY)LTD 3, 330.00 Beef for March 2018-Tutume Brigade 221 Supply & delivery of TT Ishmael Keoletile students food-Bread 1, 040.00 Investments Loaves for March 2018-Tutume Brigade 222 Supply of sound system PIC-ZANA FARMS (PTY) lights and DJ to MESLD 10, 000.00 LTD Christmas party. 223 Provision of white tent for 280 MELSD Brighton Ink Holdings (PTY) employees on Christmas 10, 169.60 LTD party, dining tables and fresh flowers on the 15th December 2017. 224 Provision of frosting Baemedi Kgalemang T/A for Ministers door, floor 1, 680.00 Abounds Investments 7-MELSD

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225 Remove existing leaking galvanized pipes and replace them with new galvanized pipes, with two (2) brass cocks 20mm (cobra), two (2) flexible connectors and due sink pillar mixer (cobra) and rubbers strap 38x38mm At floor 8 Remove and Replace cabinet sink with the same model and seal its top with silicone At floor 8 Remove and replace urinal flush Molvey (PTY) Ltd 12, 182.06 muster with the same model (cobra) At floor 8 Remove the existing Z stop cocks and replace them with Z brass stop cocks 15mm (cobra), Z flexible connectors and Z pillar tops 15mm (cobra) At floor 7 Remove the existing 1 stop clock and replace it with 1 brass stop clock 20mm (cobra) At floor 7Check the leakage At floor 7 226 Rampana Goldfields (PTY) Supply and delivery of 26, 203.69 Ltd various stationery to the Department of Corporate Services, MELSD 227 Speedy printers (PTY) LTD Provision of 10 point 3, 150.00 Agenda (quantity-500) and Anti- corruption posters (quantity-200) 228 Newflier (PTY) LTD 10/05/2018 HE Portrait for MELSD 18, 239.72 offices (quantity-33) and year planner (quantity-5) 229 Lobelo, Kefilwe Sweetie Supply and delivery of 45, 400.00 Corporate wear for Senior Officers 230 The Elisto Leirbag Group Supply and delivery of 34, 944.00 Step Door Mats for HQ 231 Mimobis Holdings (PTY) Supply and delivery of 49, 826.50 LTD various ICT equipment

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232 IFD Holdings 15/092017 Print and supply of rollup 49, 952.00 banner (0.85*2.2M). The banner to carry logs, graphics in full colour PVC material, information supported by metal frames for MELSD Public Relations. 233 Therapy of Love (PTY) LTD 19/09/2017 Branding Machine 20, 328.00 (Heavy duty machine) that can bind up to 450 pages and sheets for RMU-Corporate Services 234 Elinatyra (PTY) LTD 18/09/2017 Supply and Delivery of 20, 000.00 Bottled water 500ML to Corporate Services MELSD 235 Gradam Holdings (Pty) Ltd 01/09/2017 Provision of morning tea, 24, 920.00 t/a Mokala Lodge lunch and bottled water including conference facility for Smart Work Ethics Training held in Jwaneng on the 5-7 Sept 2017 for 36 participants for MELSD 236 Springdale pty ltd Provision to purchase 24, 883.00 cleaning material,hand sanitizer,furture polish,plastic bags,padlock,dust pan with stand,deo block,dish cloth,air freshner,sanitary plastic. 237 Bread Time (PTY) LTD Provision of bread brown 10, 080.00 sliced, bread white sliced 238 Linkhill Business Enterprise Provision of meals for 10 10,976.00 officers marking exams 239 Bokgeleke Provision of 48kg gas 18, 816.00 refill @ P 1,680.00*10 for MTTC Kitchen 240 Velt Entrepreneurs Motise lock union 23, 119.60 complete with handle, pad lock 50mm (5*), pad lock 38mm (30*), multi adapter round 5m (15*), multi adapter square 5m (15*), adapter square to round (20*), adapter round to square (20*), batteries Duracell 1.5 AAA (50*)

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241 Badooe Supplies Group Supply and delivery of 22, 336.72 (PTY) LTD cleaning materials 242 Wolf Cry Provision of cleaning 43, 571.92 materials 243 Kapitso Holdings (PTY) LTD Self-inking date 11, 354.00 stamps for Gaborone- Occupational Health and Safety-Maun, Lobatse, Selebi-Phikwe and F/ Town 244 Repmis ventures Pty Ltd Protective clothing for 7, 300.00 staff 245 IFD Holdings Pty Ltd Trolley for goods and 22, 288.00 tea Department of Skills Development 246 Two Digits (PTY) LTD Stationery (Dark tape, masking tape, archive 45, 020.00 boxes) 247 Last Dream (PTY) LTD T/A Accommodation and Going Africa meals for Boineelo 11, 480.00 Mabena temporary employee who will be participating at Gantsi show from 03/07/2017 to 10/07/2017 accommodation @ P1, 200.00/Night for 7 nights 248 Olebeletse Goitseone Provision of Institutional 2, 160.00 waste collection and disposal per weekly collection @ P540.00 for July-Tswapong Bokone Brigade 249 Unitax Holdings (PTY) LTD Stationery for Dept of 49, 172.13 Skills Development 250 Hope Courtesy 10/04/2018 Live Performance at 25 000.00 Ministry Excellence Awards 251 Ben Gothusang 09/01/2018 Entertainment-Roadshow 1500.00 Tsau 252 Grant Brook 14/06/2018 Morning tea during 1 500.00 Minister’s Press Conference 253 Phinelo 05/03/2018 Supply of Fax Machines 38 976.00 254 Boipelo Precious Galaletsang 03/07/2018 Supply of vegetables at 3 099.90 Kanye for Smart Work Ethics workshop

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255 Multipex 09/04/2018 Remove old wall paper , 271 196.80 supply and lay new one at Floor 7 MELSD SUB TOTAL 7 480 546.11 CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TRUST FUND 256 Baching Keeme(Moremaoto) 06/08/2018 breakfast 12 510.00 257 Baching Keeme(Moremaoto) 20/09/2018 breakfast 15 390.00 258 Baching Keeme(Moremaoto) 04/10/2018 breakfast 12 325.00 259 Baching Keeme(Moremaoto) 06/11/2018 breakfast 13 980.00 260 Godirwang Potlakiso 14/08/2018 lunch 29 295.00 (Moremaoto) 261 Godirwang Potlakiso 20/09/2018 lunch 35 840.00 (Moremaoto) 262 Godirwang Potlakiso 04/10/2018 lunch 28 560.00 (Moremaoto) 263 Godirwang Potlakiso 06/11/2018 lunch 32 690.00 (Moremaoto) 264 Raven blue 22/05/2018 marketing 25 889.25 265 Raven blue 13/08/2019 marketing 49 616.00 266 Raven blue 16/10/2018 marketing 21 168.00 267 Pear shaped 03/09/2018 marketing 17 334.86 268 Tersara Pty ltd 09/02/2018 marketing 5 340.00 269 Modelhub 25/10/2018 marketing 6 450.00 270 Compdia pty ltd 13/07/2018 IT 7 610.00 271 Compdia pty ltd 27/09/2018 IT 8 000.00 272 Compdia pty ltd 27/03/2018 IT 28 490.00 273 Almondrake pty ltd 06/09/2018 IT 42 850.00 Sub-Total 392 883.11

GRAND-TOTAL 8 845 617.66

54 Hansard No 192 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr. T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Ms T. Rantsebele, Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa

LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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