An Interview with LTG Frederick (Ben) Hodges, Commanding General, Allied Land Command, NATO Ensuring That Land Forces Remain Decisive for NATO

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ber 2012 in Izmir, , U.S. Navy ADM James G. Stavridis (left), Supreme W Allied Land Command Allied Commander Europe and combatant com - mander for European Command, passes the new became the single land command Allied Land Command colors to LTG Frederick headquarters for NATO. It replaced two (Ben) Hodges (right) during the command activa - tion ceremony in Izmir, Turkey, in November. Cana - force commands—in Madrid, , dian Cmd. Sgt. Maj. Mark Saulnier looks on. and Heidelberg, —as part of NATO’s transformation in the post- Cold War era. U.S. Army LTG Freder - ick (Ben) Hodges, a veteran of many joint assignments, was tapped to lead the new headquarters as its command - ing general. A combat veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, Hodges says land forces and land power are as relevant to - day as they have ever been for the 28- member alliance, which dates to 1949. LTG Hodges says the new com - mand will reach initial operational ca - pability (IOC) this August, with full operational capability of about 350 people by December 2014. LTG Hodges recently spoke with r i m

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May 2013 I ARMY 51 TG Frederick (Ben) Hodges currently serves as the commanding general of NATO’s Allied Land LCommand, based in Izmir, Turkey. The command was established in November 2012 and assumed the re - sponsibilities of two geographically separated, previous NATO land component commands under a reorganiza - tion. Allied Land Command is responsible for the readi - ness of NATO land forces, planning, and command and control synchronization. LTG Hodges took over the com - mand after heading its stand-up committee and serving as the chief, Land Command, under the forerunning command structure. Before that, he was the chief, Leg - islative Liaison, Office of the Secretary of the Army. r e t

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mand South, International Security Assistance Force, F S NATO. LTG Hodges speaks during the activation He commanded the 1st Brigade, 101st Airborne Divi - of Allied Land Command in Izmir, Turkey. sion (Air Assault), during the initial phase of Operation Iraqi Freedom and, in August 2004, returned to Iraq as emy, West Point, N.Y., and was commissioned in the In - Assistant Chief of Staff (G-3), XVIII Airborne Corps/ fantry. He also has three master’s degrees: from Columbus Multinational Corps-Iraq. (Ga.) State University, the U.S. Army Command and Gen - LTG Hodges is a 1980 graduate of the U.S. Military Acad - eral Staff College, and the National Defense Univer sity.

Question: Would you explain why we need land forces quired to hastily rebuild land forces to meet the threats the and land power? nation consistently fails to accurately anticipate. Answer: Our tradition after every war has been repeating This wishful thinking about relying solely on air and sea the mistake of reducing land forces to save money, believ - power coincides with public speculation that our strategic ing that we can avoid casualties in future wars by relying focus is going to shift to the Pacific. My good friends in the more on air and sea power ... and each time, we are re - [U.S.] Navy point to the map of the Pacific and highlight

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the vast amounts of blue, saying that the Pacific is clearly a tions and challenges that are inherent in any alliance or maritime domain. I then quickly point out that nobody coalition. Today, it’s even more important. Twenty-six lives where it’s blue on the map. The people live where it’s NATO nations, including the United States, are reducing brown and green. You’re always going to need land forces the size of their defense spending and capability. Only and land power. If you want to protect installations, protect and Turkey are either maintaining or increasing the populations, protect infrastructure, or control or dominate amount of their defense spending. That means involvement land mass, you must have land forces. in coalitions and the alliance becomes even more important for shared resources, shared capacity and cooperation. As Q: What do you see as the role of the United States in the size of the U.S. footprint in Europe continues to shrink, NATO? putting U.S. personnel in [essential] positions in the various A: I want to encourage leaders and those who think seri - headquarters of the NCS [NATO Command Structure] and ously about national security to understand why it matters NFS [NATO Force Structure] becomes an important means for the United States to continue to play a leadership role in to ensure U.S. relevance and influence within the alliance. I NATO—why it matters to be an active participant in the believe that land force development, training, employment most successful alliance in the history of the world. The and concepts are greatly enhanced by our contribution to NATO transformation, agreed to by the 28 NATO-member Allied Land Command. There will be 48 U.S. officers and nations at [] and Chicago [in 2010 and 2012, NCOs (44 of whom are Army) here by the time we reach respectively], realized that we still need effective, interoper - IOC this summer. Of the 23 nations contributing to this able land forces in the future, post-ISAF [International Se - command, the largest contributors after the United States curity Assistance Force] security environment. That’s why are Germany (40), (35), the U.K. (31), Turkey (29), they created Allied Land Command. It was the SACEUR Spain (26) and (23). [Supreme Allied Commander Europe], a Navy admiral, who told me that this was our primary task. He also told Q: In June 2011, then-Secretary of Defense Robert M. me it was our responsibility to ensure that NATO retains Gates cautioned NATO that current trends in defense the interoperability and experience that NATO soldiers spending cuts would endanger the alliance’s military ca - have achieved over the last 10 years in Afghanistan and pacity and capability to live up to its charter. Some foreign other places. So what I would hope to convey is the value policy analysts, as well as a growing number of Ameri - of land forces and how this headquarters is going to work cans, conclude that NATO has really been an alliance to ensure land forces remain decisive for NATO. without a clear purpose since the end of the Cold War and I’ve always been a believer in NATO, despite the frustra - complain that the United States is carrying a dispropor -

May 2013 I ARMY 53 Multinational troops stand in formation for the commencement ceremony of NATO-led multina - tional exercises Cooperative Long - bow and Lancer 2012 in Pepel - ishte, formerly the Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

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s r e t r a u q d a e H tionate share of the burden when it comes to keeping the [memorandum of understanding] to be prepared to do the world safe. Why should the United States continue to as - missions that NATO asks them to do. There’s a capability out sume so much responsibility for the collective defense? there that I think the United States can’t provide by itself. A: What’s most important is that, within their capability, [Vital] to my mission is to enable and certify these head - the member nations of NATO continue to provide modern quarters to conduct operations in accordance with the military capabilities that are able to be part of either coali - NATO level of ambition that all 28 nations agreed to: two tion or allied operations. This was evident in Kosovo, major joint operations, six small joint operations—all simul - Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. There are other ways in which taneously. ... That’s a significant contribution of money, in - nations contribute that matter besides percentage of GDP frastructure and expertise. … The United States couldn’t do [gross domestic product] that also ought to count. [NATO- that by itself. member countries have a defense spending target of 2 per - cent of their GDP.] Q: Are there U.S. troops in any of these headquarters? [For example,] the training centers that some countries A: Of course, which gives us the opportunity to have offi - host like the JFTC [Joint Force Training Center] in Byd - cers and NCOs gain invaluable international experience goszcz, Poland, and the JWC [Joint Warfighting Center] in with other NATO officers, which is getting more important Stavanger, , are excellent. The Swiss, who are not as fewer soldiers are assigned to Europe these days. There even in NATO, pay for and run courses for NATO officers are nearly 40 positions at the ARRC, including a brigadier and NCOs that are as good as any course I’ve seen. … The general, almost 20 positions in Istanbul, and similar num - point is that there are other things that do matter, and what bers in Milan [Italy], Valencia [Spain] and so on. So that’s a I have learned since I’ve been here is how much other presence of colonels, lieutenant colonels, majors and senior countries are doing. The volume of activities and opera - NCOs in all of these places, and that matters. tions by these countries to ongoing NATO, European Union, or other unilateral or multilateral operations is as - Q: What else do you hope to achieve before you leave tounding. command in early 2015? There are nine multinational corps headquarters based in A: I want to make Allied Land Command in Izmir the as - several different countries around Europe declared for signment of choice for soldiers all over the alliance, includ - NATO. That is a sizable force infrastructure that is un - ing the U.S. Army. We are in the center of developing land known to most Americans. These include the ARRC [Allied force capability across NATO, and the U.S. Army is the pre - Rapid Reaction Corps] in the U.K., EuroCorps in France, mier land force in the world. What soldier wouldn’t want NRDC [NATO Rapid Deployable Corps]-Spain, NRDC- to be a part of ensuring that land power for NATO remains Italy, NRDC-Turkey, and others … all agreeing by way of decisive and relevant? (

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