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PROCEDURE IN CUlftUG AUD .NEASURING YEA1 ANU CAi F CARCASSES

The proposed procedure is presented recognizing the fact that veal carcasses may be used for two purposes i.e., (1) a part of a study primarily on Veal and or (2) a part of a study of bovine development from birth to complete maturity. This procedure is presented primarily for those interested onlx in veal as the end product rather than as a part of a project designed to determine carcass development or composition in . Where the latter is of major importance the committee feels that the procedure for cutting beef carcasses as outlined in U. S, D. A. Technical Bulletin 926, Estimation of -the Composition of Beef Carcasses and Cuts, 1946, and as presented and csri- fied by G. E. Weni*n in the &EzeGs of the Sixth Annual Reciprocal Conference, 1953, pp. 73-79 should be used. Cutting:

The carcasses should be split with a hand meat saw through the center of the backbone and neck. The ribs are numbered 1 to 13, No. 1 being next to the neck (Diagram 1). The Foresaddle is removed between the twelfth and thirteenth ribs by a line that crowds the twelfth rib its full length, This cut severs the flank at a point level with the union of the sixth and seventh vertebra, counting down from the pelvic arch.

The shank is removed just above the bony rise (lateral condyle of the humerus) in the middle of the arm on a line parallel to the breast or . The breast or brisket is cut off on a line joining the shank cut with a point on the twelfth rib that is removed from the backbone a distance equal to two-thirds the length of the rib. The following is a uniform method of separating the plate from the rib. It is based on skeletal measurements and therefore, is more or less fixed (Magram 2). Two instruments are necessary, a yardstick and a carpenter's try square. Point A (in Diagram 2) is the paint of the body of the split vertebra. Point B is the cartilage or "button" of the thirteeuth rib, The distance AB is measured and the distance from point A to point C is 61.5 percent of AB, measured to the nearest eighth of an inch. At point C a perpendicular is erected by means of the square. Where this line intersects the external circumference (point I)) the separa- tion is made, the cut being perpendicular to the external surface.

A 7-rib or rack is removed from the shoulder or chuck between the fifth and sixth ribs by a line that crowds the posterior of the fifth rib the entire distance. The chine bone and spinal processes are left on the rack.

The kidney is removed and the fat completely trlrnmed out of the in- side of the loin. The flank is removed by a line that crowds the stifle joint 200. just close enough to cut slightly into the lean and crosses the thirteenth rib at a point coincident with the plate cut. Scrotum fat and udder fat are trimmed off the face of the leg and included with the flank cut.

The leg is separated from theloinby cutting squarely in a line at a right angle to the chine bone anterior to the posterior lumbar vertebra leaving one lumbar vertebra on the leg. Remove all except two caudal vertebrae with attached fat and lean.

VEAL OR CARCASS MEASUREMEKC'S Unribbed Carcass Side: (To be taken with side hanging on a rail)

1. Length of body - Measure from the anterior edge of the aitch bone to the anterior edge of the first thoracic vertebra.

2. Length of hind leg - Measure from the anterior edge of the aitch bone to the highest point on the tarsal bones in the hock joint.

3. Depth of body - Measure from the dorsal side of the spinal canal at the fifth thoracic vertebra to the ventral side of the sternum with the tape being held parallel to the floor.

4. Length of loin - Measure from the anterior edge of the aitch bone to the middle of the 12th thoracic vertebra.

5. Wdth of shoulder - Measure frcm inside the carcass at the first thoracic vertebra to the outside of the shoulder with 20-24 inch outside measuring cali&.ers. gold the axis of the calipers in a median plane to the carcass and parallel to the floor. The sum of the measurements of the right and left side is used.

6. Width of Leg - Measure with the calipers from inside the carcass at the highest point of the aitch bone to the outside of the leg. Bold the axis of the calipers in a median plane to the carcass and parallel to the floor. The sum of the measurements to the right and left sides is used.

Ribbed Carcass Side:

The measurements from the ribbed carcass side are designed to char- acterize the longissimus dorsi muscle and the adjacent external fat (if any) * The measurement is taken from a tracing of this portion of the carcass. The tracing should be made on a transparent non-absorbent paper which has a suit- able surface for writing. PIM-173 tracing paper or "AQUABEE" acetate sheet- ing meets these speciPications. A sharp pointed lead pencil should be used when making the tracing. The eye muscle and external fat (if any) are traced as indicated in diagram 3.

1. Area of eye muscle - Follow the outline of the eye muscle with a compensating polar planimeter. 201.

2. Length of eye muscle - Distance of long axis of eye muscle (AB) 3. Width of eye muscle - Three measurements are averaged for the width of eye muscle. The first (CD) is made perpendicular to the line used in determining the length of the eye muscle at a point one-half the length of the eye. The second (GH is par- allel to the first at a point one-fourth the length of the eye muscle from theventral edge of the eye muscle. The third (EF) is parallel to the first at a point one-fourth the length of the eye muscle from the dorsal edge of the muscle. Subjective Scoring:

All carcasses should be graded to the nearest one-third federal grade (SRA - - 114). The grade should be determined. by a committee of govern- ment graders.FMA

DR, BRAY: Thank you, Bob.

And now to lead the discussion we will turn it over to Dr. Jim K~s~D* DR, KEMP: Thank you, Bob.

Conference members, I think we have had two very interesting presentations here, and we want to thank Mr. Rinehart ?or that very ex- cellent presentation on lamb,

I want to throw out; a challenge to next year's comittee to do the same thing for calf because down in our part of the country we have some beef which we are not too proud of sone times, which fits neither into veal nor calf, kt we have it end it has to be merchandised, and I think that next year we should come up with some proposals. Do we have any questions to direct to Mr. Rinehart at this time? Evidently you covered the subject pretty well. This is unusual with this group.

DR, PALMER: Will you describe just a little more explicitly how you fix the veal and the together as a roast in merchandising it?

MR. RINEEZART: I was afraid somebody would ask me that because I am not a cook and I don't know exactly what the seasoning is, but we recammend that a boneless veal leg and a boneless pork shoulder roast are two very good exainples of two types of meat that can be roasted together. 202 DIAW 2

DIAGRAM 3 204.

However, I am sure that any veal or pork roast would make a good combina- tion* As to the seasoning, sir, I would not be able to tell you. DR. PAIMER: You answered what I was interested in. DR. KEMP: Any other questions or comments to be directed to Mr. Rinehart?

All right, we will proceed to the second paper on recommended cutting and measuring procedures for veal and calf carcasses. As you know, last year at the conference a proposal was submitted but it was given back to the committee to revise. A lot of you were asked for sug- gestions on revising these procedures and they were taken into consider- ation, and this cutting and measuring procedure has been proposed for adoption.

Ifyou will look at that you wPll notice that the forequarter is the same, I believe, as It is for beef and the hindquarter is differ- ent becauee of the place from which the leg of veal or calf is removed.

I will turn this over to Tam in a few minutes if we want to get a vote on adopting it. I think that we have had enough time to look it over. We have had a whole year. You were asked to send your proposals in but you still have the prerogative, if you want to, of turning it down.

Are there aqy cc;mments on this?

MR* DEANS: I guess I can be excused from criticism becauee I was not here last year; so I can ask this question. Bob, I was wondering on your diagram 3, in working with beef, how do you proceed in determining points M and L? DR. KE1LI;Y: I believe those are perpendicular to the outside of the eye from points D and N. MR. DEANS: That is a line that would go from D to N and would approach the outside covering of fat perpendicularly?

KELLY: Yes.

m. DEANS: That is a bit of a problem. DR. KELJX: I think it would be more of a problem in veal, since the covering in veal would be very much less. Actually I have placed very little value on that external cover in veal.

MR. DEANS: Well, say you have such a curved area as you par- ticularly have at point L. At one point actually it approximates a curve very closely. How do you choose what point to arrive at? You don't have a flat surface to approach at right angles?

KEMP: Bob, isn't that the same as was proposed for beef cutting? DR. 205.

DR. KEU: Yes. DR, KJMP: mybe George Wellington ought to answer why that is. MR, MELLIN#TOM: I am afraid I cannot answer that question. I do have another point I should like to ask about though. One of the dis- cussions that I remember most vividly frGm our conferences is the one on the adoption of standard meat cutting procedures, and I was always dis- turbed that we decided to separate this plate and brisket at the angle at which it is shown on diagram 1, I just raise the question now as to whether we really do want to follow that line. I think that in commer- cial practice it is much more comn to cut at a point near the lower part of the arm bone or the lateral tuberosity of the humerus and roughly parallel with the top of the chuck. However, this was discussed and it was agreed at that time that we would follow this angle that is shown in diagram 1. I don't think this is as much of a problem with veal, but we certainly would not cut beef that way even though it is listed as our procedure today.

Mi. KEMP: I think that picture is a little misleading. If you use that yardstick in there I don't think you will get quite as close to the chine bone as this picture would indicate. I agree with you on that. I am not particularly endorsing this angle.

MR. WILE ALLEN (University of Illinois): I am just wondering how you can tell when removing the kidney fat when you have gotten to the channel fat. In other words, the way it reads here you remove the kidney fat before separating the loin from the leg, whereas if the loin was re- moved first all the fat you would get out of there would be in the loin region. But since they are intact how do you know when you start to enter the channel fat?

DR. KBlP: The crotch fat, Bob. DR. KELIX: Well, you remove it as completely as you can. There is a natural fold there that does not offer much of an obstacle so far as I am concerned.

CrR. KEMP: Are there aw other questions? DR, ADAMS: I should like to answer Bob's question on the thickness of the fat. I think, Bob, if you will read that you will find that it is the shortest distance from this out to the outer edge of the fat and the same from D and the same from F in measuring the thickness of the fat and that, of course, will be relatively perpendicular to your outer edge. Of course, you will have a curve at L, and it is pretty hard to arrive at that; so you take the shortest distance. You put a measuring stick on that and you measure where it is coming out. MR. DEANS: One thing I should like to see is a clause in here some place. When efforts are made, particularly to trace rib carcasses, we get a lot of variations from the angle from which the knife is approach- ing and perhaps you can cut these at right angles before they are traced. 206.

DR, "N: I believe that is part of the procedure in beef, is it not'?

DR. KELLY: I think, Bob, that you will find, if you go through the proceaure for cutting beef as it is outlined, the angle of the knife and the fact that it should be on a plane parallel to the way the floor runs is pretty well describing how that eye will be cut down. There will still be a lot of variation, depending on who does it and the way the side is hanging but I think it describes it. It tries to describe it as com- pletely as you can put it into words. I think that we have to recognize the fact that there will be some differences there, although it is fairly standard, I think.

this I I(EMp: I am going to turn over to Tom and guess he will entertainDR. a motion from the floor.

I make the motion that this be adopted. DR, ADAMS: Second. CHAIRMAN BLUMER: It has been moved and seconded that this pro- cedure be adopted. Are you ready for the question? All those in favor of adopting this procedure into our proceedings signify by saying aye; opposed. The motion is carried. I think that most of us would be a little more comfortable if we would take our recess at this time rather than going on with the Per- sonnel Committee. I think it will take no longer, However, before taking it the Mew Executive Cmittee would like to have your suggestions for next year. I think when you return you will find paper to write your suggestions down and then turn them over to the new Conference Chairman.

Let's try to get back here in five minutes, if that is possible.

(Recess )

CHAIRMAN BLLMJB: We are ready to start the second part of our afternoon session, but before we do I see Dr. J, C, Mille;., Dean of the School of Agriculture, Texas A. and M. College, is back there. Glad to have you with us. (Applause) Now we will get over to the Personnel Committee immediately, and the year-round, hard-working Chairman of the Personnel Committee, L. E. Kunkle, will now assume the Chair. (Applause) DR. L. E. KUNKLE: Thank you, Chairman Tom. Most of you remember that the Personnel Committee was created for the purpose of looking after the membership of the Reciprocal Meat Conference and also for the placement of persons who presumably were qualified to do reaching or research or to join industry, This year we are trying to follow precedent by bringing in as part of the program some things that we think will be helpf'ul to all of 207 you who are advising and counseling these graduates, both for your pro- gram and advance study of animal science or animal husbandry who have a special interest in meat.

We have chosen a man who was trained as a chemical engineer, a graduate of Iowa State College. For a time he was an engineer for Seagram Distilleries. Then for personal reasons he chose to return to the land of corn and to live in Waterloo, Iowa, where I suppose you can say there is plenty of freedom, fresh air ad fresh meat.

Mr. R. E. Burrell comes to us after having served in the capac- ity of plant superintendent and as director of research and development for the Rath Packing Company. In this responsibility he has contact with many graduates from our respective institutions and his placement experi- ences should be mutually beneficial to all of US.

It is with great pride and pleasure that we present Mr, Burrell, Director of Research and Development of the Rath Packing Company, who will discuss the subject identified in the program, Mr. Burrell. (Applause)

MR. R. E. BURRELL: Thank you, Larry.

Friends in the meat packing business or the meat business. I should not say packing business, but I am used to talking a little with meat packers, I have a text here which was submitted to the group for publication. I have difficulty sticking with texts but I was particu- larly happy to prepare this one because it is not often that a man in the meat packing business, in research and development, gets an oppor- tunity to talk to a select group of this type.

I want to take this opportunity publicly and collectively to compliment the teaching staffs of the colleges who are supplying these graduate$ with medts training for industry, You have done a very real- istic job of organizing your curriculum; You have done avery realistic job of handling your men. It is really a pleausre to have the young fellows come into the department and to give them a piece of responsi- bility and see them pick up that responsibility and go ahead and crea- tively handle industry's problenis.

I have been asked to discuss the opportunities in the meat packing business for college graduates with training. I think that the meat packers should look at the opportunities afforded them through the graduates with meats training. These boys are helping US.

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