Professional Army, Military Service Or Social Service
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PLATON YOUTH FORUM 2009 TH ST JULY 26 – AUGUST 1 2009 Professional army, military service or social service Leader : Markus Präauer Emil Nefzger Sven Dietl Valentin Ripeanu Cristian Marcu Marie Schlaak Laura Antohe Ana-Maria Ciobanu Katharina Amelung Alexandra Tschäbunin Platon Youth Forum 2009 1/29 Index of contents Dilemma ...................................................................................................................... 3 Votes ........................................................................................................................... 3 Vote – Army Service ................................................................................................ 3 2. Vote – Army Service ............................................................................................ 3 Final vote on military service ................................................................................... 4 Professional army: yes or no? (1) ....................................................................... 5 Professional army (2) .............................................................................................. 5 1st Vote on Social Service ...................................................................................... 6 2nd vote on Social service ...................................................................................... 7 Social Service: 3. vote ............................................................................................. 7 Ablauf der Diskussion . .............................................................................................. 8 Der Sozialdienst der Bundeswehr ............................................................................... 9 Was leistet die Sozialarbeit in der Bundeswehr?..................................................... 9 Welche Hilfe gewährt die Sozialberatung in der Bundeswehr? ............................... 9 Wie erfüllt der Sozialdienst seine Aufgaben? ........................................................ 10 Wann wird der Sozialdienst tätig? ......................................................................... 10 Wie erreicht man den Sozialdienst der Bundeswehr? ........................................... 10 Der Sozialdienst der Bundeswehr bei der täglichen Arbeit .................................... 10 France ....................................................................................................................... 11 Italy ........................................................................................................................... 11 United Kingdom ........................................................................................................ 11 Wehrpflicht kostet Wirtschaftswachstum ................................................................... 13 Entwicklung braucht starke Frauen ........................................................................... 22 Kind und Karriere: Gibt es den richtigen Zeitpunkt? .............................................. 24 Von Gleichberechtigung weit entfernt .................................................................... 26 Berufstätige Frauen ............................................................................................... 26 Wie Frauen im Jahr 2020 arbeiten ........................................................................ 26 MÄNNER UND FRAUEN HEUTE ......................................................................... 26 Rüstungsindustrie ..................................................................................................... 27 Berlin, 04.05.2004 ..................................................................................................... 28 Platon Youth Forum 2009 2/29 Dilemma Auftrag und Zielsetzung der verschiedenen Experten aus Bereichen der Politik, Wirtschaft und Gesellschaft war die Vorbereitung eines EU-Vorschlages in Anbetracht einer Berufsarmee, des Wehr- und Sozialdienstes. Der Fachausschuss unter der Leitung von Ministerpräsidentin Möller bestand aus Sozialpolitikerberaterin Fischer. Frauenrechtlerinnen Hasser, Swift und Evans, Volkswirtschaftler Heinke, Militärexperte General Pauer, Anti-Feminist Iverson und dem liberalen Politikerberater Smith. Votes Vote – Army Service Yes - this way young men and women see, that the army isn’t just about killing - you can join the disaster control service and help people without learning to kill No - 18-year-olds shouldn’t be forced to learn how to kill, and if they want to, they can join the professional army - you should have a choice, if you want to go to the army, because otherwise it would be against your human rights - young persons could achieve more for their future life by going to schools a little longer - sending young people to the army encourages their rage and aggressive behavior No opinion - we would have a problem if there aren’t enough people who want to join the army Links: http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/30/30249/1.html http://hpd.de/node/5938 http://www.berufsberatung.ch/dyn/2726.aspx http://www.fhnw.ch/technik/bachelor-und-master/informationen/militaer/militaer-und- studium http://www.learnabout.de/v_danach/studium_bundeswehr.htm http://www.drgerber.ch/psyprobl.html http://www.20min.ch/news/schweiz/story/18024339 http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/schweiz/aktuell/piloten_kehren_luftwaffe_den_ruecken_1. 549680.html http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/theme87/article244488.html 2. Vote – Army Service Yes - the army shouldn’t be about saving money - the troops are saving saving lives in other countries Platon Youth Forum 2009 3/29 No - a democratic state shouldn’t force it’s inhabitants to do any service they don’t want to do - 18 year olds shouldn’t be forced to learn how to kill people - it costs the state a lot more than a professional army - with 18 your far to young to be confronted with such violent things as joining the army - you should only be obliged to do the military service in case of war - military service should be voluntarilly chosen - the young soldiers have no experience and would immediatly die in case of war. Links: Yes: http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8148&tirsan=11 http://www.ejercito.mil.co/index.php?idcategoria=216713 http://www.eucom.mil/english/fullstory.asp?art=%7B90E0A6DF-552F-4BFB-B9FF- 0EDBC6CA3147%7D No: http://www.uni-protokolle.de/foren/viewt/240025,0.html http://www.uni-kassel.de/fb5/frieden/regionen/Afghanistan/franzosen.html http://www.uni-muenster.de/PeaCon/wuf/wf-87/8731000m.html http://www.diw.de/deutsch/wb_4/04_berufsarmee_statt_wehrpflicht_eine_oekonomisch_sinn volle_loesung/31148.html Final vote on military service YES The military service is a very good opportunity to think about what you want to do and achieve in your life. It is also important because you help the society that always helped you (i.e. at school etc.) So you can pay back to the society. total votes on YES: 1 NO -it is too expensive, the money that is being spent on military service could be used better -the people that have to do military service sometimes don´t have a good attitude towards what they are doing in the army -18 years is too young to learn how to kill or how to fire a weapon -a professional army is enough to defend our country in a case of war -it keeps young people away from studies or work which is more important for them than the army -nobody should be forced to join the army -it contradicts righty like the right to free collective bargaining or even basic rights, e.g. the freedom of choosing where you want to live total votes on NO:8 NO OPINION Platon Youth Forum 2009 4/29 no votes on no opinion Links: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/deutschland/Wehrpflicht;art122,2590930 http://www.diw.de/deutsch/wb_4/04_berufsarmee_statt_wehrpflicht_eine_oekonomisch_sinn volle_loesung/31148.html http://www.bpb.de/wissen/Q01ETK,1,0,Das_Grundgesetz_f%FCr_die_Bundesrepublik_Deut schland.html#art1 http://www.wen-waehlen.de/kandidaten/begruendung_51.html Professional army: yes or no? (1) (27.7.09) Yes: 1. The professional army doesn’t cost the state as much as the people who have to do military service. And so people can decide what they want to do and aren’t forced to join the army 2. I think that professional army is good for EU because we must have some soldiers to protect us from terrorist attacks and war 3. I agree with the idea of a professional army because you have the right to choose what you want to do. 4. Yes, but just to help regions that have huge problems 5. This way people who really want to learn how to kill others and are not afraid to die can take their passion as a job and earn money with it. Still it doesn’t cost the state as much as the military service does. 6. It is good to build up a professional army, because maybe this is what you really want to do with your life 7. Having a professional army is good and useful for countries because in case of war or serious international military issues they can act very fast and proper, regarding the fact that they are well trained 8. The professional army is better equipped, trained and experienced for a modern war i.e. against terrorism No: 1.To a professional army people come for the wrong reason to often. Money or because the army is the only one that offers you a job shouldn’t be the motivation to join the army. Professional army (2) Should the state have only a professional army? YES 1)Yes but just if every citizen has to do social service 2)It`s a normal job,people can decide wheather they want to go or not. The need of professional soldiers