The Voice of Destruction
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H E R M A N N R A U S C H N I N G THE VOICE OF DESTRUCTION G. P. Putnam's Sons, New York COPYRIGHT, 1940, BY G. P. PUTNAM'S SONS CONTENTS FOREWORD vii PART I—1932 CONTEMPORARY EVENTS 1 I THE NEXT WAR 3 II A MORNING AND EVENING ON THE OBERSALZBERG 12 III EASTERN POLICY AND THE NEW GERMAN ARIS- TOCRACY 30 PART II— 1933 CONTEMPORARY EVENTS 45 IV ANTICHRIST 47 V AT THE DINNER TABLE 58 VI "YES! WE ARE BARBARIANS!" 77 VII COFFEE AND CAKES 85 VIII ENRICH YOURSELVES 91 IX AFTER LEAVING THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS 104 PART III—1934 CONTEMPORARY EVENTS 113 X HITLER'S FOREIGN POLICY 115 XI HITLER'S FOREIGN POLICY—Continued 135 XII A DANGEROUS GAME 150 XIII PAST THE CIVIL WAR 166 XIV A NEW SOCIAL ORDER, A NEW ECONOMY 177 v vi XV IS HITLER A DICTATOR? 194 XVI MAGIC, BLACK AND WHITE 215 XVII THE HUMAN SOLSTICE 243 XVIII HITLER HIMSELF 255 XIX THE EAGLE'S EYRIE 267 FOREWORD THESE CONVERSATIONS with Hitler took place in the last year before his seizure of power and the first two years (1933 and '34) of the National Socialist regime. The writer jotted them down under the immediate influence of what he had heard. Much may be regarded as practically a verbatim report. Here, in the circle of his intimates, Hitler speaks openly about his innermost ideas—ideas which have been kept secret from the masses. Only in exclusive circles is it known what Hitler really intends and what National Socialism is. Only among close friends has Hitler given free expression to his political and social aims. It is in such exclusive circles that I myself have heard them from his own lips. To have published these conversations only six months ago, would have earned me at that time an accusation of malicious invention and defamation. Even hints which left the essentials unspoken aroused surprise and suspicion. As the author of The Revolution of Nihilism, I was repeatedly criticized because my statements contradicted the clear statement of National Socialist aims in Mein Kampf, for example, with regard to an alliance between National Socialism and Soviet Russia. As long as National Socialism was seen as nothing more than a German nationalist movement aiming at the removal of some of the worst features of the Versailles Peace vii viii FOREWORD Treaty, no one took seriously my frank revelation of the real aims of Hitler. Not until today is the world prepared to accept the truth: that Hitler and his movement are the apocalyptic riders of world annihilation. Part 1—1932 CONTEMPORARY EVENTS Jan. 7. Chancellor (Dr. Brüning) discussed presidential election with Hitler and proposed extension of von Hindenburg's term. Jan. 11. Hitler rejected the proposed extension without an election. Mar. 13. Von Hindenburg obtained large majority with Hitler second on the poll. April 13. President ordered forcible dissolution of Hitler's army. April 24. In the Prussian State elections Hitlerites headed the poll, but not sufficiently to place them in power without allies. May 25. Fight in Prussian Diet between Hitlerites and Communists. May 30. Dr. Brüning and his Cabinet resigned. May 31. Von Papen nominated as Chancellor. June 3. President dissolved Reichstag. June 9. Hitler fined £50 for contempt of court and unseemly behavior as witness in a Munich Court. June 15. President raised ban on Hitler's private army. July 17. Hitler opened his electoral campaign. July 31. Hitler gained an increased representation in elections for Reichstag, but failed to secure majority. 1 2 THE VOICE OF DESTRUCTION Aug. 1. Raids by Nazi troops. Aug. 13. President rejected Hitler's claim to be Chancellor. Aug. 22. Riots in Beuthen, Silesia, after death sentence on five Hitlerites for murder of a Communist. Sept. 2. Death sentence on five Hitlerites commuted to imprisonment for life. Nov. 6. General Election in Germany. Nov. 17. Resignation of von Papen Cabinet. Nov. 21. President invited Hitler to explore possibilities of forming Cabinet under certain conditions. Nov. 22. Hitler declined to meet President's desires. Dec. 2. General von Schleicher became Chancellor and Baron von Neurath Foreign Minister. CHAPTER I THE NEXT WAR "THE NEXT WAR will be quite different from the last world war. Infantry attacks and mass formations are obsolete. Interlocked frontal struggles lasting for years on petrified fronts will not return. I guarantee that. They were a degenerate form of war." Hitler gazed fixedly across from the little glass veranda of his mountain eyrie to the precipitous wall opposite. "We shall regain the superiority of free operations." "Is it true, Herr Hitler, that Germany has prepared secret inventions which will break down every resistance, inventions against which even the French Maginot Line will be defenseless?" The Danzig Gauleiter (district leader) Albert Forster indicated by a sign to me that he had now led Hitler into his favorite subject. "All armies have secret inventions. I am skeptical as to their value," Hitler returned. "But the penetrative power of our new S-munitions. Isn't it true that electrical warfare yields entirely new possibilities of attack?" Forster persisted. "And the new poison gases and bacterial warfare? Will bacteria be used as a weapon in the next war?" "A nation denied its rights may use any weapon, even bacterial warfare." Hitler's voice rose. "I have no scruples, and 3 4 THE VOICE OF DESTRUCTION I will use whatever weapon I require. The new poison gases are horrible. But there is no difference between a slow death in barbed-wire entanglements and the agonized death of a gassed man or one poisoned by bacteria. In the future, whole nations will stand against each other, not merely hostile armies. We shall undermine the physical health of our enemies as we shall break down their moral resistance. I can well imagine that there is a future for bacterial warfare. We have not quite perfected it yet, but experiments are being made. I hear that they are very promising. But the use of this weapon is limited. Its significance lies in wearing down the enemy before the war. Our real wars will in fact all be fought before military operations begin. I can quite imagine that we might control Britain in this way. Or America." "Do you believe, my Führer, that America will again interfere in European affairs?" asked the third of the company, the young leader of the then Danzig S.A. "Certainly we shall prevent it from trying again," was the reply. "There are new weapons which are effective in such cases. America is permanently on the brink of revolution. It will be a simple matter for me to produce unrest and revolts in the United States, so that these gentry will have their hands full with their own affairs. We have no use for them in Europe." "You said that we should poison the enemy with bacteria even before the war starts. How can that be done in peace-time?" Forster asked. "Through agents, harmless commercial travelers. That is the surest method—at the moment the only effective one," Hitler replied. "The results would not be immediate. It would take several weeks, if not longer, for an epidemic to appear. Perhaps we shall introduce bacteria at the height of the war, THE NEXT WAR 5 at the moment when the powers of resistance of the enemy are beginning to fail." Our conversation then dealt with some details of a future gas and bacterial war. We sat in the rather narrow veranda of Wachenfeld House in the Obersalzberg. Hitler's magnificent Alsatian sheep dog lay at his feet. The mountains on the opposite side of the valley glowed above a pleasant meadow. It was a magical August morning of that austere, autumnal clarity which is so refreshing in the Bavarian highlands. Hitler hummed motifs from Wagnerian operas. He seemed to me preoccupied and moody. From having been communicative, he fell suddenly into a dry silence. The political moment was full of danger. National Socialism was approaching one of its crises. The Party was in a well-nigh desperate position. But Hitler's every word rang with the firm conviction that he would soon be in power, and able to lead the German people to a new destiny. We spoke of the result of the war, and the tragical turn of all German victories. "We shall not capitulate—no, never," Hitler exclaimed. "We may be destroyed, but if we are, we shall drag a world with us—a world in flames." He hummed a characteristic motif from the Götterdämmerung. Our young friend of the S.A. broke the silence by saying that it was the superior armament of our enemies that had brought about the unhappy conclusion of the last war. "It is not arms that decide, but the men behind them—always," Hitler rebuked him. "But surely new inventions and superior weapons do decide the fate of nations and social classes? Is not that what you meant, my Führer, when you said the next war would be quite different from the last one? The new weapons, the technical inventions will change the whole course of the war. 6 THE VOICE OF DESTRUCTION They make strategy completely superfluous. Today Germany is supreme in weapons and technical inventions." "No, strategy does not change, at least not through technical inventions. That is quite wrong." Hitler's manner became lively. "Has anything changed since the battle of Cannae? Did the invention of gunpowder in the Middle Ages change the laws of strategy? I am skeptical as to the value of technical inventions.