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Tuesday, April 29, 1969 Fourth Series1R.50 Vaisakha 9, 1891 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Fourth/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi CONTENTS No. SO-Tuestiay, April 29, 1969/Vaisakha 9, 1891 (Saka). CoLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions- ·Starred Questions Nos. 1381 to 1387 1-31 Short Notice Question No. 19 31-39 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Qu~ons Nos. 1388 to 1410 39-56 Unstarred Questions Nos. 7950 to 7967, 7969 to 8029, 8031 to 8037 and 8039 to 8104 56-173 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance- Reported arrest of an Indian Embassy Official at Djakarta Airport 173-77 Papers Laid on the Table 177-78 Estimates Committee Eighty-seventh Report 178-79 Public Accounts Committee-- ThirtY-sixth, fifty-third, sixty-first, sixty-seventh, seventy- fifth, seventy-sixth, seventy seventh, seventy-eighth, seventy- ninth, eightieth, eighty-first and eighty-second Reports 179-81 Committee on Public Undertakings-- ThirtY-second, thirty-fifth, forteith, forty-first, forty-fifth, forty-sixth and forty-ninth Reports 181-82 Finance Bill, 1969- Motion to consider 182-200, 206-18,220-31, 232-88,289-316 Shri Morarji Desai 184,21()'18 Shri C.C. Desai 22()'31 Shri Asoka Mehta 23243 Shri S.S. Kothari 243-51 Shri Mrityunjay Prasad 251-60 Shri Y ogendra Sharma 26().69 Shri Sheo Narain 269-77 Shri A. Sreedharan 277-82 Shri P.G. Sen 282·88 Shri Badrudduja 289-97 Shri Shivajirao S. Deshmukh 297·306 Shri Maharaj Singh Bharati 306-15 Shri Achal Singh 315-16 • Arrest and Conviction of Members- (Sarvashri lyotirmoy Basu, C.K. Charkfapani and P. Gopalan) 200-06, 219-20, 231-32, 288-289 ·The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. LOK SABHA DEBATES 2 LOK SABRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE Tuesday, April 29, 1969/Vaisakha 9, [DR. SHRIMATI PHULRENU GUHA] : 1891 (Saka) (a) No, Sir. (b) No, Sir. (c) Does not arise. ---- (d) The following steps have been taken The Lok Subha me t at Elev.en of the Clock by Delhi Administration : [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] (I) In order to enable addicts to get lawful liquor from near by places the number of country liquor shops has been increased ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS to 3. There has been no change in the allot- ment of quota. $ ~ ~ Q-f.mr;:ftfu' (2) Orders have been issued to keep m strict watch on localities which are notor- + ious for illicit distillation. *1381. "" mm ~ : (3) An Excise Police Squad under a ~ ~ Deputy Superintendent of Police has been organised to check distillation and im- ~ ro '"'" IJC" : port of illicit liquor in contravention of ~~~ Excise Rules. ~nQ~~~~ (4) In order to stop the smuggling of illicit liquor from border States of Delhi ~~~ Union Territory, the police and excise department staff keep strict vigil from time ~ w ~ ~ ~ etfi to time. ~ arrun: 'n. ~ If'II-f.mr ;ftfu fifmror ~~ "" mm iR : 3T&lieT ~ ~ 3IT'! <f; imT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~~ ~ 3IT'! 1f;TIZ'P ~~ ~~~~~ Ww.:r ~ on: 3Tf'l' ~ m t ~ am: ~ ~ ~ §'3l'T ~ ar>r<: ~ ('1') ~ ~ ffi :a;m 0lll<:T w ~ aTl<: ~ on: ~ ~ ~ ffi ~~~~ ~ ~ am: '3'<r on: ~n ;f 'fll'T ~~ l!'IiT<: <tT ~ ~ 3IT'! cl>m: rn ~ am: f1f; IZ'P ~ on: mr<l'iit ~ ;;m:r ; ('i.f ) ~ # ~ 1Pl' ;j'. mr<T ffi ~ ~ ~~ <f; ~ # m~ ~ ~ am: ~ ~ <f; ~ ffi ~ ~ ~ ~ ;;fill' ? 'ilfT;toft ~ imT .w ~~ <tT ;;rr <:@ ~ ~ <f; ~ ~ <iNr'fT cl>m: p ~ ~ ~ 3 Oral Answers APRIL 29. 1969 Oral Answers DR. (SHRIMATI) PHULRENU GUHA; aNT 'I'i<'\" <:TO 'liT ~ ~ fiI; 11' ~~ We know the 'difficulties of the Delhi Ad- ministration. They have reoently constituted ~ ~ ~ ~ !lOfT ··H I ;;;; '1ft ~ an administrative committee under the ~~~~ ~ presidentship of the Mayor to suggest arq;r ~ ~ <'IT W ~ "IFf l{ ~ measures to enforce different provisions. ~ ~ m>ft ~ ~ l1T7,1i g3fT fli' ~~~~~ -n ~ ~ ; 'fin m:<IiT<: 'I>[ ~ ~ fit; mR iI>"t ~ ffi <ii 3m: ~ ~~~~o ~ ~ I ffi, ~ ~ ~ l!i'4T ~ ~ ~ ~ imJ ~ m:r.r ;r;:rcrR 'I>[ ~ ;;mIT ~ ~ cit am ;mr ~ ~ 'IiT1f fiI;Irr ;;rr ~ ~ aiR' 3fln: .?ttr m:rif 3fr.T Q.m ~~~ ~ iI>"t;mr, ~ 'I>[ lim $ 'Ii<: ~ 'fiT{ 'IiT1f ¥ ~ ~~~~~~ imJ ...... ~ Wtm: ~ qmcr fiI;Irr ;;mIT ~ ? ~~ ~~ I ~ T<': 'fin ~ ~ ~ arm mil ~ ;f ~ fit; ~ -n ""'" fit; ~ <ii 'IiT1f l{ ~ qm ~ ~~~~~ ~ ~ ifR m m:rif <ft;f 'lif 3lmr ~ ~ ~ f<:f'ilihl'1 am ~ om;. m-m l{ o~ ~ ~ am 'fin m:<IiT<: ~ ~ ~~ f,t aT;;rr1i ~~~ 'fin ~ ~ ~ <f) -q ;;rr;r;rr ~ ~ fit; ~ 'ffi'IT ~ fit; ~ ~ m ~ orlG ~ ;f 'fiT{ ~ ill'( l{ m:<IiT<: ~ ~ ~~~~~ '!fiI;'IiT'!.'f fu1i tro 'lif ~ ~ fiI; if{i ~ ~ Q;m ~ ~ fit; ~ <fl<rr ofG" ~ '.f1;f '" aRfmf "ICifT "Ief ~ ? l{ Ilm <m'!1 ~ ~ cit am: 'fin im 'IiGIi ~ ~~ ~ ~~ mOl" 'iflif ~ fit; w 1i itiTIflIl<!T ~ ? Q;«l" ~ '-li1 ~ ~ ~ imJ 'fin ~ of; ill'( 'fiT{ ~ iI>"t ~ ~~~~~~~ ~ 'fiT{ ~ qm: 'I'ifl:ro;r liT 'fiT{ ~ ~~~ ' ~ ~ ~ 'Ii<: m:<IiT<: ~ ill'( ~ ;;rtq m-ift ~ ~ ~ DR. (SHRIMATI) PHULRENU GUHA : am: m We do not know the exact details about ~~ the incident but we hope that the Committee THE MINISTER OF LAW AND I referred to will suggest remedies in a SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI GOVINDA comprehensive way and Government wiJI MENON) : From repeated statements take care of them .. made by hon. Members who had experiences similas to those which Mr. Gupta experienc- ed yesterday, I think the time has come, -n ~ ""'" T<': ~~ ~ when some further enquiry !>"ouJd have ~ fifOO 22 ~ ~ m:rif oM- ~ ~ to be made, and I think ~ a good sug- gestion. '-li1imr 'Ii<: <: ~ ~ #tool ~ ~ ifR 'Ifi ~ ~ ~ ~ l{l ~ -n ~ l{;i<;rT ~ ~ am:: m:rif tft;n 'IiT!IiT ~ ~ ;;rr 'I>[ ~~ iI>"t am: ~ fit; • ~~ ~~~~~ ~ QJ,l(2f<li<*/ if ~ orgcr ~ ;rtq'f l{ m 'fin 3f1ih: am 'fin 'li\ir 00 ~ it<:! 3f'T'fT ~ m~ f'li Ef6.T ~ m-m 1i ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 'if'if ~ ~ ~~ fuiffi ~~ am ~ ~Q ~ ~ am: ~ <ii 5 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 9. 1891 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 ~ ~ am: ~ ~ ~ MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. When- ever the prohibition question comes up, ~ ij"Rff"l' if, ~ ~ amti ~ ~ it takes half an hour. ' ~ ;;IT ~ ~ ~ ~ SHRI MANUBHAI PATEL: When ~ ~ ~ arrfiIimf '¥ 31<r.!1 « ;m the question is about a fresh enquiry,- ~ foro: qm ~~ ~ t!1ft ~ <n: ml'f (/nterruptioh}-May I request you ...• ij"if ~ ~ 'lit$\" 'l<'ffir t 1 ;;m 'lit" Tfm<!" MR. SPEAKER : Every time this ~~~~~n~ question comes, the whole House is up ~ 'lit" SIlfl'f, ~ ..". f.roT;fr and everybody wants to put questions. In that case, only one question can be ~~~o~~ taken up for the whole hour. We have ~ ~ 1ft ;;n<r.1 ~ 3l'Iim: ~ had it the other day. Even Sbri Manubhai Patel put a supplementary on that day. ~~~~~ I remember it very well. Next question. anfif;mf ~ 'fif li ~ lITCf ~ t flI; SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: You ~~~u~ ~ don't enjoy it, Sir ? ~~~~~~ ~~~~~ MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. Next question. ~n~ fg;:Rf am: ~ ~ ~ ;f1{ ~~ ;;n<r ? SHRI GOVINDA MENON This is + a suggestion for action. *1382 . .n ~~ ~~~~ .n ~ ~ : 3f'IiT ~ ~ tTllT ~ ~ ~~~~~ .n ifrolfG1' : ~ t ;;m " 'IiJ1I'IfIiiT ~ ~ t m ~ <ft;f cm?i..". ffim ~ W ~ ?fi< ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ <rcrA' ..". '![IT m fif; : rn ~ ~ ~ ~~ ffill ;;rTiI'ifI ~ 'flIT ~ 'liT 'faT ~ fif; ~ ~~~~~ ~ if ~ sr>rr ~ ~ 'it JRft:rn Iflfum 'liT ~ iflif ~ <n: ~ ~ am ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ; ~ ~ ~ ~n 3f'IiT 'liT (liJ) 'flIT ~ ~ iT ~ Gil iT '!lI' ~ ..". 'll ffi ll;;rTiI'ifI ~ ~ sr>rr <it ~ ~ of; ~ ~ ~~~~ ~~~~~ am: ii ~ ;;rn: li ;pfr ~ fulfT ~ ? (Tf) ~ ~ aT ~ O1lTu 'flIT SHRI GOVINDA MENON : Prohibi- ~ CflIT ~ ~ iT ~ sr>rr 'liT ij"1fI"<\' tion is imposed not by the Central Govern- ment. It is a matter for the State Govern- ~~u~~ ? mt!nts to impose or not to impose. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND IN THE MR. SPEAKER.: Next question. DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE [DR. (SHRIMATil PHULRENU GUHA] : SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS-rose (a) The information is being collected from 7 Oral Answers APRIL 29, 1969 Oral Answers 8 the State Government of Mysore and will 1M <n: ~ .sffi <IT<'!T ~ 'I'i1¥ ~ "fT'I>T be laid on the Table of the House in due course. CSf'l> ~ 'fl<';.f ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ _ fuq;rfuT '1ft off I!jf I li ;;n-;fo'Il ~ (b) No, Sir. The Suppression of Im- moral Traffic in Women and Girls Act, ~ ~ -:nr riem <tt fuli # ~ n~ ) 956, is in foroe in the State. Wherever 'f.T If-{ ~ -:nr ~ ifR '1m ~ ~ 'Devadasi' system is assuming the form tmn-il'1 ~ f.t;l:rr ? of immoral traffic in women and girls, it can be dealt with under the act. THE MINISTER OF LAW AND SOCIAL (c) Does not arise. WELFARE (SHRI GOVINDA MENON) : Sir, you witnessed the excitement of two SHRl K. LAKKAPPA ~ I raise hon. Members on the very mention a point of order. of the word 'devad:si'. How are we to say whether it exists or not without collect- MR. SPEAKER There is no point ing information (Interruption) ? of Order during Question Hour. I will allow you a, supplementary. ~~~~~ SHRl K. LAKKAPPA : There is no fit; ~ # riem ~ ~ ifIG' ~ fuli such Devadasi system in Mysore. I protest against this. ~~~~~n~~ ~ \1ij' # ~ arfu<mr mm ~ <tt MR. SPEAKER : If there is no such ~ \1ij' ~ thing, you can ask a supplementary. am: jj: '1ft atfuomr mm (Interruption) Order, order. If you prooeed ~ ~ fiI'f # ~ ~ ~~ like this, what can I do ? ~ ;m: f;r.iT ~ 'Ii'lTU, ~ ~~~n~ ~ am:;(mrtq ~ I ~ ~ <R:<? <tit ~ ~ ~ fit; ~ 1961 am: ~ '1ft ~ ifiTI1 if If<< ~ ~ "fro!' ~ ~ ~ ami\lr;f ~ ~ I '1m ~ ~ ffi <tit ~ ~ ll'fu;r ~ ~~~ ~ reil' am: ~ ~~ m'!i1f ~ '!i1f ~ m ~ lfmlIT dt'R ~ ~ firI:rT1f ~ mr ~ <IT ~ ~ l!'f ;for lIlT ~ ~ fuli ;m: f;r.iT # ~ SI'iITl: ~ ifiTI1 ~ ~ am: -:nr fu1i if ~ gaIT ~ fit; fur ~ ~ ~ W'm ~ ~ ~ ? ~ ~ ~ ~ i ~ mrnr li· MR.