1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUS~ 903 - That completes "the· Executive Calen- .John' A. Twaddle · Edwin C. Welsh imperial soul shall breast the tides· of da~ · Wallace R. Van Den Clifford A. Wiethotf . · Bosch change and live on with freedom .as its RECESS immortal pursuit and life's richest at­ To be lieutenant Mr. CHAVEZ. I move that the. Senate tainment. In our Rede.emer's name. Frank L; Lawlor Amen. take a recess until 12 o'clock noon to­ To be assistcr,nt paymaster, with the rank of morrow. · ensign The Journal of the proceedings of The motion was agreed to; and (at 4 Ralph G. Leedy . yesterday was read and approved. o'clock and 34 minutes p.m.) the Senate • IN THE MARINE CORPS RESIGNATION FROM COMMITTEE took a recess until 'tomorrow, Wednes­ T" be Pa.ymaster General of the Marine Corps ' The SPEAKER laid before the House day, February 6, 1946, at 12 o'clock for a period ot 4 years from February 1, the following resignation from com- meridian. 1946 Raymond R. Wright mittee: · JANUARY 28, 1946. NOMINATION POSTMASTERS Hon. SAM RAYBURN, GEORGIA Spealcer of the House of Representatives, Executive nomination received by the Dora L. Raulerson, Hortense. Washington, D. C. Senate February· 5 (legislative day of DEAR MR. SPEAKER: I hereby tender my January 18), 1946: INDIANA resignation as a. member of the Committee John Leonard, Birdseye. WAR AssETS ADMINISTRATOR on Elections No. 3 of the House of Repre­ James Perona, Blanford. sentatives. Lt Gen. Edmund B. Gregory to be War. Dorothy Fohl, Cedar Grove. Respectfully, Assets Administrator, effective upon retire­ William 0. Burgess, Gas City. HUGH PETERSON. ment from the Army. James E. Cox, Newburgh. Elsie B. Johnson, Westpoint. The SPEAKER. Without objection, the·resignation is accepted. CONFffiMATIONS KANSAS Marjorie A. Cain, Delphos. There was no objection. Executive nominations confirmed by George M. Thomas, Morrowville. EXTENSION OF REMARKS the Senate February 5 (legislative day of MISSOURI January 18), 1946: Mr. DONDERO asked and was given Frank A. Johnson, Gainesville. permission to extend his remarks in the UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGES MONTANA RECORD and include an article fJ.·om the Roy M. Shelbourne to be United States Albert Leo Nix, Wibaux. -New York Journal-American. · district judge for the western district of Kentucky. NEBRASKA Mr. ROBERTSON of North Dakota EdwardS. Kampf to be United States dis­ Julius E. Arnold, Big Springs. asked and was given permission to extend trict judge for the northern district of New Edward Borzych, Farwell. his remarks in the RECORD in two in­ York. Martha E. Castor, Stockville. stances and include in one a quotation from James Madison and one from CHIEF JUDGE, MUNICIPAL COURT OF APPEALS FOR NORTH CAROLINA Bessie L. Adams, Blounts Creek. Abraham Lincoln and in the other two THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA letters written to him on the question of Nathan Cayton to be chief judge, Munici­ W1111e T. Smith, Dudley. pal Coui·t of Appeals for the District of Co­ Mildred C. Thompson, Hallsboro. the Offlce 'of Price Administration. lumbia. Helen J. Dellinger, Iron Station. Mr. DOLLIVER asked and was given William R. Miller, Laurel Springs. _ permission to extend his remarks in the . UNITED STATES ATTORNn:s OKLAHOMA RECORD and include a statement from Alexander M. Campbell to be United States Leroy K. Hawkins, Boynton. R. K. Bliss, Iowa director of the Exten­ attorney for the northern district of Indiana.. Evah Kirksey, Porter. sion Service. J. Vincent Keogh to be United States attor­ ney for the eastern district of New York. WEST VIRGINIA Mr. ELLIS asked and was given per­ mission to extend his remarks in the UNITED STATES MARSHALS Cordia H. Covert, Yawkey. WISCONSIN RECORD and include an editorial. Al W. Rosinski to be United States marshal Mr. COLE of Missouri as).{ed and was for the northern district of Indiana. (Now Helen A. Feye, Eastman. serving under an appointment which expired Rachel P. Porter, Fontana. given permission to extend his remarl{S in July 3, 1945.) Stella J. McCollow, River Falls. the RECORD and include a poem written John M. Comeford to be United States by F. J. Lyons, of Conception Junction, marshal for the we~ttern district of Wisconsin. Mo. (Now serving uriden an appointment which CALENDAR WEDNESDAY BUSINESS expired October 30, 1945.) · HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I .IN THE NAVY TuESDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1946 ask unanimous consent that the business APPOINTMENTS IN TH!: NAVY FOR TEMPORARY in order tomorrow, Calendar Wednesday, SERVICE The House met at 12 o'clock noon. be dispensed with. Patrick N. L. Bellinger to be vice admiral, The Chaplain, Rev. James Shera The SPEAKER. Is there objection to for temporary service, to .rank from October the request of the gentleman from 5, 1943. . Montgomery, D. D., offered the follow­ ing prayer: Massachusetts? APPOINTMENTS IN THE REGULAR SERVICE There was no objection. To be assistant s~rgeons with the rank of 0 Thou merciful and mighty Spirit, come and rule in our hearts and direct THE GREAT WAR WORK OF MR. PETER lieutenant (junior grade) HANSEN, OF BEATRICE, NEBR. Charles D. Adams Carl L. Johnson our minds and labors. Breathe through Alfred Agrin Edward A. Johnson t e heats of our desire that all our Mr. CURTIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask John H. Annegers, Jr. Andrew Johnston efforts may be for the solution and the unanimous consent to address the House l!lrnest M. Barker Lloyd H. Klefstad transfiguration of the hard paths of for 1 minute and to revise and extend Bernard A. L. Bellew John A. Learn toil. Let us proclaim to the· discouraged my remarks. Frank W. Bussard Gordon ·v. Lillie and all in ··need the evangel of · our The SPEAKER. Is there objection to Joseph P. Cannon Joseph T. Lucas, Jr. George C. Chaney Glenn L. Marshall, Jr,. Elder )lrother and meet courageously the request of the gentleman from Ne­ James F. Clearly, Jr. Theodore R. Marvin the test of -our stewardship. In word braska? Edwarci B. crohn Hugh B. McAdams · and deed, may we confess that the best There was no objection. Ber1;1ard F. Danton, Jr. Hoyt B. Miles, Jr. and the most enduring contribution we Mr. CURTIS. Mr. Speaker, I rise to Francis D. Donahue Albert D. Nelson, Jr. can make to our country is our faith in pay tribute to a great patriot. I refer to Frederick F. Ferguson Leonard R. Ortega God and our fellow men. Vouchsafe to Mr. Peter Hansen, of Beatrice, Nebr. Al­ Rodes C. Garby Ralph R. Preston · the Congress a very earnest sense of its though Mr. Hansen is past 77 years of William D. Grant Alan Raftery age, and has spent most of the last 2 Alfred E. Gras Wilfred N. Sanders responsibility by proving its fidelity to Jack M. Gruender David J. Sanderson all the fundamental Pl'inciples . of our years in a hospital, when VJ-day came Robert L. Henry, Jr. Clinton R. Strong Republic. Allow us not to walk in paths he was knitting his one hundred and Wt:liam L. HutchinsonLoy T. Swinehart of blind confusion or tarry in the chill thirty-eighth sweater for the members William J. J·enkins Frank M. Thornburg of doubt, but so serve our land that its of our armed forces. i>ince that time he 904 CONGR_ESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 has completed two more. Mr. Hansen. TENDERING THANKS OF CONGRESS TO Mr:: SPRINGER. . Mr. . Speaker, I ask was born ·in Denmark, the ninth.child in GENERAL. OF THE ARMY GEORGE C,' unanimous .consent that this bill. be a family of 10. When he was 6 years old_ MARSHALL AND MEMBERS OF ARMY OF passed over without prejudice. his mother taught him to knit. During UNITED STATES . The SPEAKER. Is there objection to World War I he used to knit in his idle The Clerk called the joint r-esolution the request of the gentleman from In­ moments while traveling· on the train as

l£46 ------. - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 913 Elizabeth M .• Simmons when she fell while _ ·sions of this act shall be deemed guilty of a to Philadelphia, Pa., incident to his change . descending t:Q.e steps, which we_re in a chipped misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof of station from San Diego, Calif.. to Carrier and broken condition, from the south en­ shall be fined in any sum not exceedin~ $1,000. Aircraft Service Unit 47: Provided, That no trance of the post office building. at Owens­ part of the amount appropriated in this act boro, ,Ky., on Apri126, 1944: Provided, That no With the 'following committee amend­ in excess of 10 percent thereof shall be paid part of the amount appropriated in. this act ment: or delivered to or received by any agent or , in excess of 10 percent t):lereof shall be paid Page 1, line 6, strike out "$5,000" and insert attorney on account of services rendered in or delivered to or received by any agent or "$1,500." connection with this claim, and the same attorney on account of services rendered in shall be unlawful, any contract to the con­ connection with this claim, and the -same The committee amendment was agreed trary notwithstanding. Any person violat­ shall be unlawful, any contract to the con­ to. ing the provisions of this act shall be deemed trary notwithstanding. Any person violating The bill was ordered to be engrossed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon convic­ Ghe provisions of this act shall be deemed and read a third time, was read the third tion thereof shall be fined in any -•um not guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction time, and passed, and a motion to recon­ exceeding $1,000." thereof shall be fined in any sum not exceed­ ing $1,000. sider was laid on the table. The committee amendment was agreed ERNEST PEDRO FERREIRA to. The bill was ordered to be engrossed - The· bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, was read the .third The Clerk called the bill

/ 1946 'CONGRESSIONAI.; RECORD-HOUSE 915 Woodfall, Jr.,__ from injuries sustained on May date of enactment of this act, because of entered into on June 25, 1942, with the 21, 1943, when the Government bus in which the loss throug1J. theft during the invasion United States Veterans' Administration to he was riding from Gamboa to Balboa, c: Z., of Sicily of $1,900 in United States invasion . deliver fresh milk, 'cream, buttermilk, and was involved in an accident with a trailer currency which had been entrusted to his cottage cheese to the Veterans' Administra­ truck owned and operated by the Municipal care. The Secretary of the Treasury is au­ tion facilities, Fargo, N. Dak., during the Engineering Division of the Panama Ca~al." thorized and directed to pay, out of any fiscal year that ended June 30, 1943. The money in the Treasury not otherwise ap­ facts are that the Morgan Creamery Co. dis­ Mr. SPRINGER. Mr. Speaker, I offer propriated, to the said Maj. Edward A. Zaj continued the delivery of said products in an amendment to the committee amend­ so much of such sum of $1,900. as has been accordance with a direction and agreement ment. refunded to the United States by him, on the part of the Veterans' Administration The Clerk read as follows: through deductions from his pay or other­ facilities at Fargo, N. Dak.: Provided, That Amendment offered by Mr. SPRINGER to the wise, prior to the date of enactment of this no part of the amount appropriated in this committee amendment: act. act in -excess of 10 percent thereof shall be Page 2, line 7, strike out "$5,000" and insert paid or delivered to or received by any The bill was ordered to be engrossed agent or attorney on account of services ren­ "$4,200." and r.ead a third time, was read the dered in connection with this claim, and The amendment to the committee third time, and passed, and a motion the same shall be unlawful, any contract to . ame.ndment was agreed to. to reconsider was laid on the table . ' ,the contrary notwithstanding. Any person violating the provisions of this act shall be The committee amendment as FATHER PETER B. DUFFEE amended was agreed to. deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon The Clerk c;:tll~d the bill n's Boat time and passed, and a motion to recon­ Works, Inc., Alexandria Bay, N. Y., the sum The committee amendment was agreed sidel; was laid on the table. to. of $6,842.06. Such sum represents the actual MORGAN CREAMERY CO. loss incurred by the said Hutchinson's :Aoat The bill was ordered to be engrossed Works, Inc., in the performance of a con­ and read a third time, was read the third , The Clerk called the bill from ·the United States Government to the Boat Basin, the sum of $13,855.58; to Brun­ for the relief of Maj. Edward A. Zaj. Morgan Creamery Co., Fargo, N. Dak., and Kimball & Co., of Patchogue, N. Y., the sum that the Veterans.' Administration's claim of of $17,297.85; to Mount Desert Boat Yard, There being no objection, the Clerk $920.64 against the Morgan Creamery Co. be Inc., of Mount Desert, Maine, the sum of read the bill, as follows: · canceled. The said claim arising out of $1,299.84; to Channel Boat Co., of Newport Be it enacted, etc., That Maj. Edward A. the excess cost alleged to have been incurred Beach, Calif., the sum of $9 ,822.94; to Fair Zaj, United States Army, is relieved of all by th~ Veterans' Administration by rea~on Haven Yacht Works, of Fair Haven, N. J., liability to refund to the United States any of the failure of the Morgan Creamery Co .• the sum of $14,448.95; to Harbor Boat Works, amount for which· he is accountable, orl the to perform under contract No. VA3'7r-935; of San Diego; Calif., the sum of $17,523.83; 916 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 to San Pedro Boat Works, of San Pedro, Calif., bursement to the Marine Cor~ of all pay and Page 2, line 2, after the word "truck:" the sum of $117,205.62; to Reed Bros., of allowances received by Major General Erskine insert "Provided, That no part of the amount Boothbay Harbor, Maine, the sum of $12,- from the Marine Corps or its agencies while appropriated in this act in excess of 10 per­ 686.71; to S. B. Norton & Son, of Dark Harbor, he is serving as Retraining and Reemployment cent thereof shall be paid or delivered to Maine, the sum of $5,120.78. Such sums shall Administrator. or received by any agent or attorney on be in full settlement of all claims against account of services rendered in connection the United States tor losses sustained as the The bill was ordered to be read a third with this claim, and the same shall be un­ result of certain contracts made between the time, was read the third tin1e, and lawful, any contract to the cont rary not­ said companies and the United St ates Navy passed, and a motion to reconsider was Withstanding. Any person Violating the pro­ for building small boats, referred to as 'buoy laid on the table. visions of this act shall be deemed guilty of boats'; Provided, That no part of the amount a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof appropriated in this act in excess of 10 per- MR. AND MRS. MARION M. HILL shall be fined in any sum not exceeding cent thereof shall be paid or deliver~d to or The Clerk called the bill (S. 991) for $1,000." received by any agent or attorney on account the relief of Mr. and Mrs. Marion M. of services rendered in connection with this Hill. ~ · The committee amendments were claim, and the same shall be uniawful, any agreed to. contract to the contrary notwithstanding. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to The bill was ordered to be engrossed Any person violating the provisions of this the present consideration of the bill? and read a third time, was read the third act shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor There being no objection the Clerk time, and passed, and a motlon to recon­ and upon conviction thereof shall be fined in read the bill, as follows: sider was laid on the table. any sum not exceeding $1,000." Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of GRANTING AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE The committee amendment was the Treasury is authorized and directed to TO WILLIAM ROSENBERG agreed to. pay, out of any money in the Treasury not The bill was ordered to be engrossed otherwise appropriated, to Mr. and Mrs. The Clerk called the bill ffi. R. 1616) and read a third time, was read the third Marion M. Hill, of Wheeler, Ala., the sum of to gr-ant an honorable discharge from $4,175 in full satisfaction of their claim time, and passed, and a motion to re-· against the United states for compensation the military service -of the United States consider was laid on the table. · for the death of their minor son, Arless to William Rosenberg. The title was amended so as to read: Atcbely Hill, as a result of personal injuries The SPEAKER. Is there objection to "A bill for the relief of Hutchinson's sustained by him when he was struck by a the present consideration of the bill? Boat Works, Inc., .and others." Government-owned vehicle driven by an .em­ There being no objection, the Clerk ployee of the Bureau of Internal Revenue read the bill, as follows: · GRAVES BLANCHARD ERSKINE in the performance of his otD.cial duties, Be 'it enacted, etc., That an honorable d~­ The Clerk called the bill (S. 1590) to near Wheeler, Ala., on December 2, 1944: Pro­ charge be granted to William Rosenberg, authorize the President to appoint vided, That no part -of the amount appro­ Army serial No. 6041837, for the period of an Graves Blanchard Erskine, major gen- · priated in this act in excess of 10 per­ enlistment in the United States Army ex­ eral, United States Marine Corps, to the · cent thereof shall be ·paid or delivered to tending from July -8, 1916, to December 26, or received by any agent or attorney on ac­ 1917, said discharge to supplement the par­ office of Retraining and Reemployment count of services rendered in connection don granted by the President of the United Administrator, without affecting his with this claim, and the same shall be un­ States under date of February .2, 1918. service status and per-quisites. laWful, any contract to the contrary not- SEC. 2. That, upon r.equest, the Secretary The SPEAKER. Is there objection to withstanding. Any person violating the pro- of War shall grant to William Rosenberg, the present consideration of the bill? visions of this act shall be deemed guilty Army &el"ial No. 6041837, a discba1·ge certifi­ There being no objection, the Clerk of a misdemeanor and upon conviction there- cate showing that he is held and considered read the bill, as follows: of shall be fined in any sum not exceeding to have been honorably discharged under the .1,000. provisions ol this act, Be it enacted, etc., That notwithstanding the provisions of the act of July 31, 1894, as The bill was ordered to be read a third With the following committee amend­ amended (5 u. s. c. Annotated 62), or any time, was read the third time, and ment: other provisions of law, the President, acting passed, and a motion to reconsider was by and with the advice and consent of the laid on the table. Strike out everything after the enacting . Senate, is authorized to appoint Maj. Gen. clause and insert in lieu thereof the follow~ Graves Blanchard Erskine, a general ofilcer WILLIAM C. REESE 1llg: "Tha:t in the administration of any laws in the United States Marine Corps, to the The Clerk called the bill (H. R. 3085) office of Retraining and Reemployment Ad- conferring rights, privileges, and benefits ministrator, and Major General Erskine's ap- for the relief of William C. Reese. upon honorably discharged soldiers or their pointment to, acceptance of, and service in The SPEAKER. Is there objection to dependents, William Ro~enberg . shall here­ that office shall in ·no way affect any status, the present consideration of the bill? after be held and considered to have been omce, rank, or grade he may occupy or hold Mr. SPRINGER and Mr. DOLLIVER honorably discharged from the military service of the United States is a private of in the United States Marine Corps or any objected; and, under the rule, the bill component thereof or any emolument, per_- h Company M, Forty-ninth Infantry, on the quisite, right, privilege, or benefit incident was recommitted to t e Committee -on 26th day ot December 1917: Provided, That to or arising out of any such status, ofilce, Claims. no bounty, back pay, pension, or allowance shall be held to have accrued prior to the rank, or grade: Provided, That so long as be MRS. MAY HOLLAND holds the otD.ce of Retraining and Reemploy­ passage at this a-ct." ment Administrator, Major Gene1·a1 Erskine The Clerk called the bi1l of God, is hereby renewed and extended for The bill was ordered to be read a third The Clerk called the bill adopted by the cannot put' teeth in it, let us not have and ample consideration before you take House which denied the authority of the any law at all. this first step to remove all the teeth courts to issue injunctions. Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the from this bill. The amendment which I propose to gentleman yield? Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Chairman, will the offer applies principally to those who Mr. ELLIOTT. I yield to the gentle­ gentleman yield? are engaged for hire in moving goods in man from Kentucky. Mr. SMITH of Virginfa. I yield. interstate commerce and prohibits via-· Mr. MAY. In answer to the question Mr. LANDIS. Section 11 takes care of lence, secondary and boycott strikes, asked by the gentleman from Michigan, violence and intimidation, and the Hobbs which is something most of us want. I I am curious to know if what he favored 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 921 in 1.939 was good legislation why it. is not Mr. LANDIS. The gentleman realizes be had to. go back to New York to get , now.? that these jurisdictional disputes are· a permission. Permission from whom? Mr. HOFFMAN. May I answer the . breach of contract. You have the same From Olds, chairman of the board. of gentleman? · ' · penalty under section 10 which takes care United States Steel. Now who was Mr. ELLIOTT. Yes. of all breaches of contract. Olds? · Olds was the man who said in · Mr. HOFFMAN. If the gentleman will . Mr. PHILLIPS. I do not so under­ 1940 when the President sent for him, look at the RECORD of last Friday, · in­ stand it. I also realize that there are . having been asked whether they had to stead ·of devoting all of his time to the many technicalities which provide loop­ expand in steel, said, "No, sir; we can Military Affairs Committee, and he is · h-oles through which conflicts can slip produce all the steel that the Allies and doing a good work there, he will see that · if they are not carefully covered in the this country need if we go to war." Not bill was offered. bill. only did Olds miss the boat, but he was Mr. MAY. If it was good then wl;ly is Mr. PACE. Mr. Chairman, will the the first man I ever heard of missing it not good now? gentleman yield? the ocean, because the United States Mr. HOFFMAN. It is good now, but · Mr. PHILLIPS. I yield to the gentle- Government expanded to the extent of I cannot get anyb'Jdy to listen to it. man from Georgia. . $919,000,000 in steel, besides private in­ Mr. ELIJOTT. . Mr. Chairman, I hope Mr. PACE. Is not a boycott usually dustry. Here was the same Olds who . we may proceed to give this matter care- · caused by an organization that does not said we did not have .to expand, but he ful consideration before we sabotage the have a contract but wants tp get a con­ came to Washington last week and bill. Let us be fair about this matter. tract? wanted to raise steel $13 a ton. Who The only way to legislate is to legislate Mr. ANDERSON of California. Mr. do you think is to blame, labor or those in the right direction. This is not in the . Chairman, will the gentleman yield? · fellows in the upper brackets? Labor . right direction and if we want to control Mr. PHILLIPS. I yield to my col­ came right down and accepted the Pres­ the evils which now exst, we are going . league from California who lives in a ident's proposal. But I again repeat, t• have to put teeth in the law and make · district that knows exactly what this Fairless had to go back to New York it work. If you do not want it to work means. to get his orders; the same man, the just add some of these milk-bottle babies Mr. ANDERSON - of California. I chairman of the board of directors .of to it and you will not have any bill at all. might add. that the _gentleman also lives United States Steel, who knew so little The CHAIRMAN. The time of the in a district where the results of certain about his own business as to say that no boycotts have been extremely disastrous expansion in steel was necessary. He is gentleman from California has expired. to consumers, particularly in the Los An­ the same man who is responsible for this Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Chairman, I geles area. I would like to call attention · strike today by telling them that they move to strike out the next to the last to . the effect of one secondary boycott need $13 a ton more on steel. That is word. down there, where hay, hauled to a farm­ the trouble. It is not with labor. It is Mr. Chairman, I doubt if some of the ers' market· by a trucker who was not with those fellows in New York. Not Members of-this House who come from employed by a union was declared hot. that I am defending Kaiser or his knowl­ city districts have ever had the rather . Then the unions went so far as to declare edge of steel, but he was correct when doubtful pleasure of spending .the better that the milk from the cow that ate that he said that Ben Fairless knew that a part of a year raising food crops as we hay, was hot, and refused to haul it. cent and a half difference in the wage raised them in the western part of the Section 13 of the pending bill would put was not enough. It was not low enough United States, and taking those crops, a stop to that sort of thing. to destroy America but he had to go back, which provide food for the people of the Mr. PHILLIPS. In the gentleman's I repeat, to New York and take orders United States to the extent of one-third own district a carload of food which was from a man who did not know that ex­ of all the perishable foods of the United being shipped to a processing plant was pansion in steel was necessary. ,States at certain seasons, and attempt­ stopped, although it left the farm before Suppose this Nation or the President ing to get them to market, or to a proc­ the jurisdictional dispute arose. had listened to what Olds said, that we essing plant, as thf' gentleman from Mr. KIRWAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise did not need to expand, would we be as­ California [Mr. ELLIOTT] mentioned the in opposition to the amendment. sembled today in his Hall? When they canneries, then having a jurisdictional Mr. Chairman, we are assembled here had priorities on bobby pins, that is how fight between two labor unions, in whicn today trying to pass legislation to· curb much we needed steel during the war. the farmer is not interested at all, re­ strikes. Just 9 years ago this summer And here is a man who said it was not sult in the complete destruction of the a steel strike took place in the United necessary to expand, the same man that food, the food that you have ·raised, and States. Let us look at the record of that is tying up the country today and is try­ the complete loss of what amounts to a strike. One week before it took place ing to ease that blame onto labor. So year's income. If you had had that there met in New York City the biggest there is the blame. pleasure, or had lived in an area where band of pirates of our time, knOWJl as You look at the last time, when they that had taken place, you would have no the Steel Institute. They agreed around went out on strike and lost. The Con­ doubt whatever what to do with an the table in that room not to recognize gress of the United States granted them amendment such as has been otiered. the CIO. · You will remember that the 10 times more than what they went out I would like to make a suggestion, if press of that day said that Charlie on strike for in 1937. They gave them I may. This is not a section of the bill Schwab sneaked out of the back door the right of collective bargaining, the that sho'lld be stricken out. It may be and agreed to put Bethlehem Steel and right to organize, the right to picket. a section of the bill in which, as one Lackawanna Steel on a 40-hours-a-week That was granted by this Congress. And Member of the House suggested to me, basis to get the Government contracts here we are again today, trying to do there might be some changes in the of four or five hundred million dollars, something to promote strikes, not to pre­ worrling to clarify it. It seems to me · to comply with the Walsh-Healey Act. vent them. this is a section of the bill that should Remember that on Tuesday Ben Fair­ Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, I be left in, taken to the Senate, and then less, president of United States Steel, move to strike out the last word. · in conference, leave in the intent of the said that as long as he was president he Mr. Chairman, . at every stage in the section but improve, if you will, the would . never recognize the CIO. Re­ discussion of every bill there is what you language. member on a Friday of that weel{ Myron might term "an atomic era." The Landis I hope this House, not for our sake in Taylor tossed Ben Fairless and the rest amendment to the Case amendment is the Vlest but fa,r the sake of the food of them out of the window and said he the atomic amendment to the Case bill. that you people in the East and in the would recognize the CIO. You remem­ It would blow up and destroy every right cities want from the West, will vote down ber that strike that took place. Big Steel that the public of. America is entitled to this amendment and leave this section in worked and Little Steel was on strike. from this bill. I cannot see why some of the bill. Now what have we got? There met in my colleagues are so fearful of offending Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Chairman, will the the White House here a couple of weeks organized labor. It has been my experi­ gentleman yield? ago, Ben Fairless and Phil Murray. ence that once you go against or for any Mr. PHILLIPS. I yield to the gentle:. They came within a cent and a half of act contrary to the wishes of organized man from Indiana. settling their dispute. 'But Fairless said labor, they smear you in their CIO, A. F. 922 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 of L., and other public~tions, as having Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will payer pays the bill for all strikes. It sinned against the Holy Ghost. As for the gentleman yield? takes a way our tax money from the rest me,' I accept the mark of Cain· that they Mr. STEWART. My time is limited. of us who are willing to go along and be have or may hereafter place on me. I If the gentleman can get me five more good American citizens, worthy of the want to be correctly identified where minutes, I will be happy to yield to him. blood that our fathers lost upon the fields there will be no doubt as to my identity, Mr. HOFFMAN. I know, but you felt of battle when America first began t.o because I know when I speak I represent so sorry for me. - grow as ·a nation. 100,000,000 people who pay the major ex­ Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. COX. Mr. Chairman, will the pense of government and who are not ask unanimous consent that the gentle.:. gentleman yield? recognized as yet, but will be soon. There man's time·be extended for 5 minutes. · Mr. STEvVART. I yield to the dis­ is some conjecture as· to -when the time The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection tinguished gentleman from Georgia. will come. In my own mind, the ·adop­ to the request of the gentleman from Mr. COX. I should simply like to say tion of the Landis amendment would de­ Massachusetts? that this bill either holds or goes to pieces stroy the very heart of this Case bill. The Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, re­ in the waters in which it is now traveling. labor groups stay up day and night work­ serving the right to object, and I will not The adoption of this amendment would ing out plans and strategy to confuse object, if the gentleman will let me cor­ destro·y the entire effort to getHfair and Members of Congress. Now is the time rect him. adequate legislation to deal with the to call a halt. We know the labor organi­ Mr. STEWART. I do not know problem that threatens the security and zations have shaken down the rank and whether I want to be corrected or not. the safety of the country. file of many thousands of workers who · Mr. McCORMACK. The gentleman Mr. STEWART. I thank the able gen­ were not in sympathy with such wrong­ ·said he would yield ·to the gentleman tleman, and I ·do think he is an able doings, but they had to pay tribute or from Michigan. · gentleman, for his valuable contribution, they did not work, a mode of strategy Mr. HOFFMAN. In the interest of because I think he hit the bull on the which to this good hour has worked most truth, you know, I think you ought to be nose when he made his statement. I perfectly. There is only one way to meet corrected. want to talk to all of you about taking the- issue, and that is with more votes Mr. STEWART. I yield to the gentle­ action. This matter of playing the role than they have. Let us not be taken on man if he will withdraw his objection .. of tweedledee and tweedledum, hop1.ng a snipe hunt and kill this bill with the Mr. HOFFMAN. I cannot do it before, that you will blindfold labor when th~y amendment offered by the gentleman but I will later, if you can rely that long are all around, even taking the remarks from Indiana. I do not know what his on my word. you strike out when you get permisshm background is on labor matters, but we Mr. STEWART. I will take it for that to revise and extend, is going to be a little know today that strikes are going on long. too much to attempt to straddle. throughout our Nation. Mr. HOFFMAN. Now, you seeme.d to ·As I said in the outset, once you sin The city of New York is just about feel very bad because you fan~ied I had you are always a sinner. Now is the ready to call the Army to take over the slipped from grace. I want to ~ assure the time to redeem yourself with the people tugboats, and the tugboat workers ac­ gentleman that if he had taken the trou­ of America. The people spe9,k. l mean, cording to the press, have refused to ble to read the RECORD of last Friday, they are riled up to the point where they agree. They called such acts civil war only last Friday, where I inserted pro­ are going to take action. Outside of a back in 1861, but we cannot rebel against posed amendments to the Wagner Labor few little industrial districts, represented our property being taken away from us. Act, he would have discovered just how by perhaps 50 Congressmen, I believe the That is ,just peaceful picketing and the wrong he is. You are another of those majority of the people of America want right to strike according to organized "Johnnie-come-lately's" who does not these strikes stopped. They want this labor. To deprive the babies and moth­ know and who would not advise himself group that tells you and me when we ers and other citizens of that great city as to how some of us stand. The amend- · shall go to bed and when we shall get up, of New York of food and fuel and the ment I proposed, the one that is on the what we shall pay for socks, rent, and very necessities of life, is that justice? Clerk's desk up there, will take care of what we shall pay for biscuit~. to give us We all know, and there ,is no argument this situation. a chance to live. The farmers of Amer­ against it, organized labor'is a privileged The CHAIRMAN. The time of the ica are fed up with their crops being de­ group in America, stronger than the law gentleman from Oklahoma has expired. stroyed after they have been placed in or any political organization that has. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Chairman, I transportation, through jurisdictional ever been in power in this country, a su­ renew my request that the gentleman's disputes or because they were harvested pergovernment within this great Gov­ time be extended for 5 minutes. by themselves or unorganized labor. It ernment that we love ~o well. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection is time for us tQ stand up l_ike men, men I have certainly been surprised at some to the request of the gentleman from like the small group of patriots that gave of my colleagues whom I have followed Mass!:ich usetts? U$ this grand form of Government in on most occasions, particularly my good There was no objection. 1776, and say to the people, "We are friend from Michigan. I thought that if Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairm·an, I will going to hand it back to you like George ever there was a man wl1ose heart had r~sume from the point at which I had Washington wrested it from England. been purified with the dripping blood of arrived before the gentleman from We are going tO have that' Government the sins of labor, he was one of them. I Michigan made his statement. I hardly we haveloved so long." This is no. time have come to the conclusion that. his know how to interpret a man who has for tweedledee and tweedledum. We do heart has mellowed and that he, too, taken the position he has taken hereto­ or we do not. Now, are you? It is up feels the quivering pulse of possibly the fore on labor matters. I cannot analyze . to you. I appeal to you. At this very o1;ganization that has taken place over his previous position with his position . minute the American people are appeaJ­ the week end . . upon this matter at hand. It is just a ing to you to take a positive position ·Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will little difficult for me to digest. Possibly, against unlawful strikes. the gentleman yield? when I have been here as long as he has My seat in this Congress is not worth Mr. STEV/ART. I want to stand as one and have seen as many labor bills con­ enough to me as an individual to make representative of and for thP. JOO,OOO,OOO sidered by this body, I will perhaps be in me violate the principles of my Govern­ people of America who are paying as good a position as he is to know where ment. It is a known fact that labor has the bill by taxes and furthermore pay­ . tl::le right and the wrong in the adminis­ more to do with the functions of this ing the fiddler while Rome burns, while tration of labor laws is. But I do want Government than the Democratic Party industry and labor squabble. Our taxes to say that America is at the crossroads. has or the Republican Party ever had to are mounting. Our privileges of citi­ America is threatened. Jurisdictional dq with it when it was in power. A per­ zenship are being taken away from strikes which this ainendmen.t, in my son who does not know that knows but us. Whenever they appoint somebody in opinion, would condone, is one of the little about the way our Government is lome of our Government organizations evils of the existence of the · common run today. to deal for one of my group, the majority American citizen. ·· Strikes· have become The CHAIRMAN. The time of the group, that somebody is some laborite a burden upon our· Goveniment. When gentleman f1~ om Oklapoma bas again or from some other special group. we vote an appropriation here, the tax- expired. -t946 · CONGREBSION AL. R·ECORD-HOUSE 923 Mr. RANDOLPH. · Mr. Chairman, I 4908 . as , it was . introduced,· embody- ·we would resolve ·the question by either ask ·for recognition. . ing within its · provisions the· request . the approval or the disapproval of the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman of the President of the United States. request of the President of the United from West Virginia is recognized for 5 He ·desired not to deal with the over­ ·States, and not try to embrace too many minutes. all subject of labor legislation, im­ subjects. Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, dur­ portant as that might be for the con­ I am just as vigorous in my opposition, - ing the reading of the bill for amend­ sideration of the Congress on a later date, as I stated last Thursday, against the ment yesterday, I did not take occasion but he was determined if this instru- top-heavy Case bill and its provisions as to make any formal remarks, but simply .mentality was placed within his jurisdic­ I am vigorous in the advocacy of the stated some observations on pending tion to bring through this period of re­ .request in H. R. 4908 of the President amendments and asked questions· which conversion the production of essential of the United States. I felt would develop the viewpoint which consumer goods which the public was I have felt, Mr. Chairman, the sting Members would want to have very clear. ready to purchase. of the very strong and effective opposi­ It is now an appropriate time for me to What did he do? He was courageous. tion of certain labor leaders. I may speak again. I am not speaking of our national leader have it again and again. I would, how­ The gentleman from Oklahoma £Mr. as a Democrat or a Republican. · In the ever, remind my colleagues. that approxi­ STEWART]. who has just finished speak­ message to Congress, December 3, 1945, mately one-half of the workers in private ing, said, "We either do or we do not," he challenged us with this language: industry in the United States have some He declared, "I~ is either tweedledee or All who think seriously about the problem _type of union agreement with manage:. tweedledum." The gentleman indicates of reconversion-of changing our economy ment. That means, as of 1944, about that there is a wavering within this from war to peace-realize that the transition 14,500,000 workers in this country were House as to just exactly where, individ­ is a difficult and dangerous task. I hope that the Congress will approve the working under union agreements. It ually and collectively, the Members stand steps which I am now taking. They are being means, certainly they were union as we go into the second day of the taken in the. interest of· accelerating our pro­ workers in the bargaining which they reading of the Case bill, which has been duction, promoting our reconversion pro­ collectively were making with manage­ made in order as a substitute to H. R. gram, and pushing forwai'd to a higher ment. About 65 percent of all the work­ 4908. standard of living. ers in the manufacturing industries of The gentleman from Oklahoma also This is an immediate program which is fair to both sides. I hope that the Congress, America have union agreements. We stated that in this country. in an earlier know that in a few industries, like coal period, we had a civil war. I often recall naturally disappointed at the failure of labor and management to agree upon a solution mining and in the operation of railroads, a story of a dweller in my section. We for the prevention of industrial disJ?utes, wUI the workers are almost 100 percent cov­ were so-called border territory. At the , not adopt repressive or coercive measures ered by agreements between manage- beginning of the War Between· the States against either side. A free American labor . ment and labor. I am . in favor of re­ he found himself torn between two h:i­ and a free. American private enterpr~se are sponsible unionism. terests. He did. not know on which side · essential to our free democratic system. Legislation which would stifle full freedom of · So, Mr. Chairman, in very factual and to place his fortunes. · good spirit, I reiterate that I think we Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, will collective 'bargaining on either side would be a backward step which the American peo­ make a mistake fn trying to legislate in the gentleman yield? . ple would n0t tolerate. connection with this over-all picture Mr. RANDOLPH. I yield. rather than to deal with it as the Presi­ Mr. STEW ART. I did not intend to What did he request? What was he against? dent requested on December 3. My col­ say I was torn between two parts. leagues, this is a period of reconversion, Mr. RANDOLPH. I have not accused He covered the reccnversion period, the gentleman of that. He has told us and that is the time element with which and we know this power .of fact fmding, where he stands. Courage is an admi­ I am concerned. We must not act in with helpful aids, would :Je used only in the most extreme cases where the public rable trait. haste and regret later what we have done, Mr. STEWART. My people wore the and he warned against repressive action interest is deeply involved. Labor and gray. They went clear down from '61 to in Congress. The President said he fa­ management should come together in the '65, while the State of West Virginia vored full freedom of collective bargain­ center of the so-called industrial ring to receive instructions from the referee·, seceded. ing. I do also. Fact finding would im- . plement-not destroy-that full free­ which is the American public. The pub­ Mr. RANDOLPH. Of course, West lic, with all this slugging to the finish Virginia is a political entity, as well as dom. · Virginia, and we paid our debt to Vir­ The CHAffiMAN. The time of the between management and labor, is not gentleman from West Virginia has ex­ only in the middle but being struck ginia. and we paid it with interest, I will below the belt. · say. But that does not mean there is not pired. the most friendly feeling· between West Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, I ·The CHAIRMAN. The time of the Virginia and Virginia. Our two States ask unanimous consent to proceed for gentleman from West Virginia has again include a beautiful and productive sec­ five additional minutes. expired. tion of America. At least two governors The CHAIRMAN: Is there objection Mr. ARENDS. Mr. Chairman, I move who have served as the Chief Executive to the request of the gentleman from to strike out the last four words. of the Commonwealth of Virginia were West Virginia? Mr. Chairman, I oppose the amend­ born in West Virginia after West Virginia There was no objection. ment offered by the gentleman from In­ became a State. Mr. RANDOLPH. The President was diana for the simple reason that section Now, to go back to the story: This man dealing essentially with the reconversion ·13 should remain in this bill if we hope was torn between his feelings for the problem. In my opinion, that is what to accomplish some of the objectives that North and the South. Finally he deter­ I believe the committee should be con­ various Members of this House have in mined that he would purchase' for him­ sidering today, these immediate prob.­ mind. All we will do is to weaken this self a blue coat and a gray pair of lems of reconversion from war to peace. bill through the adoption of such an trousers. The result was tha_t the sol- In the very nature of events we have a am~ndment. . , diers of the South shot him through the certain chaotic condition and economic In connection with this great question coat and the soldiers· of the North shot unrest in .. this country. It was so after of management-labor . disputes which him through the pants. If Members at­ World War I and it is so, only more acute, we are debating today, let me say I ani tempt, as the gentleman from Oklahoma after World Warn because of the heavy glad that at last it is here on the House indicates, to serve ·~wo ma~ters they will lines of the picture and the number of floor so we can stand up and be counted n0t" gain favor with either side and will ·industrial forces involved; yet we find as to what we are going to do. If this be literally riddled by the voters of their ourselves today trying to write 'legisla­ whole problem were not so serious, an in­ congressional districts. tion hurriedly off the cuff, and attempt­ dividual would have to stop and laugh Now, a further observation: When I ing to write a bill covertng the many at the statements made here regarding addressed my colleagu~l? at ·the very problems of labor which should be dealt who is prolabor and who is proindustry. outset of the general debate I stated ·with just as the many problems of man­ I think the rank and file .in this House that I was strongly in ·favor of H. R. agement should be studied. I had 'hoped are big enough to stand · bn their owri 924 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 feet and be fair about this matter, and The letter continues, and I repeat I Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous con-­ that is what I hope we are going to do to­ do not endorse all contents of the letter: sent that all debate on this amendment day. Politics is not the farmer's long suit. He close in 30 minutes. Those of us who happen to come froni ordinarily sits back and watches. But in Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. rural areas are often referred to by the self-defense, he must now prepare to take an Chairman, reserving the right to object, boys in the city as our country cousins; I active hand in th.! goings-on at Washington as far as I am concerned, I would not refer to them as city slickers. _ I some­ or take the distasteful consequences. want 5 minutes. I wonder if we. might Disputes should be settled while men work. not agree on taking less than 5 minutes times believe these city slickers are not All the consuming public knows this, but thinking through what is happening to union bosses have them bluffed. apiece? their country today. I make this state­ Mr. RANDOLPH. If any gentleman ment because of something that is now I want to say to the House today that would want ·less than 5 minutes, that moving on through the agricultural sec­ this whole matter goes much further would be agreeable to me. tions of this great country of ours. It was than what the average rank and file of Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Chair­ emphasized awhile ago when a Member farmers may say about either wages or man, reserving the right to object, I think referred to the many difficulties the prices. It goes. right down at the root this is about one of the most vital amend­ farmers are now up against in raising of the problem: production in the United ments that we are ~oing to have on this their crops, processing them, and bring­ States of America. I repeat, I hope the bill. I think every Member of the House ing them to market. I hope the time time will never come when there is a wants to understand what this is about n€ver comes when we will have an agri­ strike in the agricultural sections of the and have ample debate before he votes cultural strike in this country, but I do country. But they have been again and on it. When this amendment is voted on want you to know that some farm people again tested to the limit, and unless we we will have determined whether this of this Nation do have a cause, and some­ remedy the situation now confronting us, House is going to do somethinb or noth­ day they might well become a little more we will be faced with more trouble than ing. I hope the gentleman from West vociferous, talk louder, and do something we have ev.er been before. I hope that Virginia will withdraw his request for about it. we do not cut essential and. vital parts the present. I do not think it will run This morning, a letter came to my desk out of this bill. I hope, that we will pro­ very long, but give these gentlemen 5 which was not circulated in my district ceed the way we have been going, and minutes apiece. but in a district next to mine, and I want that we here and now make honest effort Mr. RANDOLPH. Of course, I have to read excerpts from it to emphasize to do something to bring about a solution no desire to hasten decisions on this what some of the agricultural people of of the problems of labor and manage­ amendment or any other. However, in this country are thinking about and why ment aQd get production in high gear. view of what the gentleman from Vir­ they want these difficulties between man- Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the ginia has said, I will withdraw my re­ - agement and labor straightened out and gentleman yie~d? quest and we · will let the matter run straightened otit right now. These farm­ Mr. ARENDS. I yield to the gentle­ along. ers are not prolabor or proindustry but man from Kentucky. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. they are pro-American. If we do not now Mr. MAY. Suppose all the farmers Chairman, reserving the right to object, accept our responsibility and try to do that produce wheat or all the farmers let us try to speed along on this amend­ something about labor-industry differ­ that produce corn got together and de­ ment and make our remarks directly to ences then we are not the right kind of cided they would not sell a bushel for the point. ' Members of Congress. This letter says: the next 12 -months to come, what would Mr. PACE. Mr. Chairman, there is happen? not too much I can contribute to the dis­ It's time for a show-down. There 1s cussion of this amendment except I have nothing that wi!l collapse as quickly as the Mr. ARENDS. Tbey would have to do human stomach. ' - that for not more than 30 days and we tried as best I could to keep in touch would have chaos, and some are thinking with the situation in agriculture across Remember the Secretary of Agricul­ about it now. I am sorry to make that the Nation. I do want you to realize ture just this week suggested that farm­ statement and I sincerely hope such a in your consideration of this amendment ers should start sending•hogs to market movement by the farmers is never that there is a growing restlessness at lighter weights, because there is not started. throughout this country in the farming enough corn on hand to feed them. Miss SUMNER of Illinois. Mr. Chair .. sections. That exists in Indiana, it ex­ Someone said over .the l'adio the other man, will the gentleman yield? ists in Ohio, and it exists in Missouri. night that there will be no white bread As the gentleman from Illinois has men­ baked within a few months. Mr. ARENDS. I yield. to the gentle­ tioned, there has for the first time in All right. Do not think for a minute woman from Illinois. thisNation been offered a proposal that that some of us cannot get just a little Miss SUMNER of Illinois. These those who till the soil, those who pro­ bit hungry in this country. What is strikes in implement factories have so duce the food and the fiber to feed and happening? The farmer who has slowed down work so that really what we to clothe the Nation, resort to their worked 12, 14, and 16 hours a day during have today is an involuntary slow-down inalienable right to stop work. this war to try to do his part toward on the farms. Some of the things that have brought food production, has depleted his land; Mr. ARENDS. That is correct. And it on have been referred to here. There he has worn out his machinery, and now I am sorry to say it is my belief that the is a great strike now in one of the farm he cannot get replacements or obtain people of the cities do not realize what is machinery manufacturers' plants. Do help. He tries to buy new machinery, taking place in this country. So I re­ you know what they are striking for? and he turns to the greatest implement­ peat, let us do everything possible now You probably have not noticed it because producing factory in the world, but what to pass constructive legislation that will it has been overshadowed by the steel does he find? They are on strike. It is help correct present-day conditions and General Motors strikes. They are almost impossible to buy a piece of ma­ where we have so many unnecessary striking for a 6-hour day, 30 hours a chinery in the United States. Go and stoppages of work and when what we week. try it. The other day a farmer in my truly need, is for everyone to be working Have you stopped to consider for a district, who was in great need of a four­ with all their productive effort. minute bow much food you would have row corn planter, which formerly sold in The CHAffiMAN. The time of the if the farmers of this Nation worked 6 the neighborhood of $200 or $250, when gentleman has expired. - hours a day, 30 hours a week? Have new, went ,to a sale and there he paid Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, as I you ever produced your crops, carried $600 to get a used corn planter which he stated yesterday, we do want the most them to town, and been unable to unload had to have to put his crop in the ground. helpful debate on each and every amend­ them because two unions were engaged Now, who is going to pay that unneeded ment. I am wondering now what gentle­ in a jurisdictional strike and nobody additional expenditure of $400 that it men want to speak directly to the Landis could enter the place? cost this farmer to buy that planter, be­ amendment, and if we could agree on I think at this hour, according to the cause the factory cannot produce while some time, and then vote on that propo­ newspaper accounts, the Cabinet is meet­ they are on strike? sition. ing at the White House with the Presi- 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 925 dent of the United States. They are try­ supports the reported bill. The substi­ while bargaining is given a chance. The ing to find ways to feed the starving tute has been the subject of debate and Norris-LaGuardia Act is amended so as people of Europe. You know who must consideration for more than 4 days. to make effective orders for maintaining produce the food; the same ones who It is being considered by the House in the status quo, and this is only a partial produced it for the four long years of the the Committee of the Whole. The .prin-· amendment of the Norris-LaGuardia war without adequate farm machinery, ciples have been repeatedly brought to Act. It should be said, once and for all, without adequate helP-the farmers of the attention of the House. There is no that the act is not repealed. The Case this Nation. occasion for extended consideration of bill provides that the Norris-LaGuardia The only reason I am talking to you the fundamental abuses at which the bill Act shall not prevent the maintenance of now is that already there is a movement is aimed. the status quo pending fact finding to among farmers out West, and it should In the nineties and again following the protect the public interest. not be necessary. Do not, as the repre­ twenties the Government intervened to Sixth. Violence in support of strikes is sentatives of the people of this Nation, restrain the selfish and irresponsible curbed. Mass picketing is prevented. and particularly of those who till the soil, exercise of vast power by capital and There is no rational ground for their de­ let the word go out this afternoon that management. The Utility Act and the fense. Injunctions may be used under the Congress has stricke11 from this bill a Securities and Exchange Act were passed. the section, and there is thus a sound provision that would help them in mar­ Capital rode to a fall. Today the exer­ modification of the LaGuardia Act as keting their commojities after they have cising of unprecedented power by labor well as a modification of the ·wagner or worked in the sun for months to produce organizations threatens to destroy a the National Labor Relations Act. I them. That is the danger we are facing helpless public. Labor now is riding to a may say that other amendments to the when we send out word to the farmers fall. Unless the Government intervenes Wagner Act should be made. I have of this Nation that there has been the welfare of many will be sacrificed to voted for, and supported, such amend­ stricken from the bill a paragraph which the interests of the fe\v. While I favor ments in legislation that passed the has only one single purpose, to stop the collective bargaining the public must be House in 1940, and .it died in the Senate. practices now going on in jurisdictional protected. The effect of strikes upon the It is one-sided. Employers are rfght in strikes. If you think the farmer's wagon great mass of the public is paramount. · demanding equality under the Wagner should be stopped and he not be per­ The strike is a weapon, but it can be a Act. But any existing act that protects mitted to market his produce until he dangerous weapon, and when dangerous violence and mass picketing without joins a union, then vote for this amend­ its use should be restricted. Strikes further debate or consideration should be ment. That is the issue. have now reached the point where there changed. There is a terrible feeling of restless­ is not only--serious injury to the public Seventh. Boycotts, jurisdictional, and ness going on among the farmers. I am economy, but the public is being de­ secondary strikes should be prohibited· afraid of it, to be frank with you. I do prived and sacrificed. It •is time for the and the Norris-LaGuardia or any other not want to see the farmers of this Na­ Congress to assume and to exercise our act should be modified so as to prevent tion go on strike. I have talked to them, · responsibilities as the representatives of boycotts. .There is thus a third modifi­ I have worked with them throughout the the many rather than as the spokesmen cation of the Norris-LaGuardia Act to years as they have watched the practices of the few. It is time for action. ban boycotts, jurisdictional, and second­ going on in other parts of this Nation, The country demands that economic ary strikes. and I am frightened by this amendment, chaos cease and that order and produc­ I have thus briefly · outlined the es­ which, if adopted, would leave those who tion, including the production of farm sential provisions of the Case bill. It feed the Nation utterly helpless. machinery, be restored. It is not a mat­ contains not only prohibitions, but affir­ Mr. WHITTINGTON. Mr. Chairman, ter of party, but it is a question of country mative provisions. Strikes would be pro­ I rise in opposition to the pro forma and a question .of whether the public hibited for 35 days for an opportunity amendment. interest will be promoted. for mediation and arbitration. .Both the Mr. Chairman, I oppose the amend­ As I have indicated, there is no occa­ affirmative and the prohibitory pro­ ment of the gentleman from Indiana_ sion for protracted debate or extended visions of the Case bill have been gener­ [Mr. LANDIS] to strike out section 13. The consideration. The public demands that ally considered not only by the public, best that can be said of the gentleman's both labor and management live up to but by Members of Congress . . There has argument is that it is exceedingly .weak. their contracts. There is nothing ex-. been ample time for debate and discus­ It cannot hurt to repeat and thus em­ treme or new in this provision of the sion in the Committee of the Whole, prob­ phasize the need for curbing jurisdic-. Case bill. Only extreme partisans ably the best of all committees, for 4 tiona! strikes and boycotts. It is con­ would contend that there is anything days. Perfecting amendments have been tended that the provisions of sections 10 unfair about that provision of the bill. adopted. While not a complete or per­ and 11, either or both of them, cover the · First. The declaration 0f the Case bill fect remedy, the Case bill is the only ve­ situation. The best argument against is sound. Collective bargaining is de­ hicle or the only bill under the rules of that contention is the reading of sec­ clared to be the cornerstone of enter­ the House that gives Members an op­ tion 13. It covers a state of facts not prise. Government decisions should not · portunity to vote to curb in the public contemplated and not mentioned, and be substituted for free agreement, but interest the wholly indefensible strikes provides a remedy that is not stipulated free agreement should be promoted and and strife, increasing day by day, that in the preceding sections 10 and 11. obtained. ContractS' should 'be binding are destructive to the public interest and Widespread and increasing strife and upon both management and labor. Con­ are fast destroying our economic order. strikes result in the loss of millions of ciliation, mediation, and arbitration will While I do not agree with -president dollars of production and of millions of be provided. Truman's recommendations for compul­ dollars of purchasing power every day. Second. The bill provides for a labor­ sory investigation of employers, although It has been correctly and repeatedly as­ management board with powers of con­ I agree with a cooling-off 30-day period, serted that labor organizations oppose ciliation and mediation. Arbitration is he was certainly right in urging that the pending bill or any legislation. It promoted. might, with equal force, be said that Third. Both labor and management Congress, if they did not approve his management opposes the pending bill. are required to live up to their contracts. · recommendations, adopt its own con­ But the long-suffering public, the inno­ No further consideration is necessary. structive program. Of all the bills sug­ cent bystander, demands constructive Fourth. Strikes and lock-outs in the gested and of all the measures intro­ legislation curbing labor and providing public interest are prohibited until there duced, I believe that the Case bill is not for the cooperation of management. In is a period of fact finding, and strikes only fair to both labor and management, the contest between wages and prices the in public utilities essential to the main­ but in the -general public lnterest. I public interest is suffering and demands tenance of health and safety are limited. only wish that -the Case bill, under the legislation, notwithstanding the opposi­ The bill is clear· on this point. No fur~ rules of the House, could · be further tion of both labor and management. ther consideration ori this score is re­ amended to amend the Wagner Act, and It has been said that the Case bill has quired. to provide other restraints on organized not received committee consideration. Fifth. Lock-outs and strikes are pro­ labor. An unprecedented condition confronts hibited for a reasonable fact-finding pe­ Mr. BUCK. Mr. Chairman, I move to _ the House. No member of the committee - riod. l'he status quo is maintained strike out the last three words. 926 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 Mr. Chairman, in the city of New be offered as soon as the vote is taken on And down in the State of Tennessee, at York the great Idlewild Airport has been this one. the home town of our colleague, the under construction for many months. Mr. BUCK. Mr. Chairman, I yield gentleman . from Tennessee [Mr. KE­ Two labor difficulties on that job de­ back the balance of my time. FAUVER], the CIO is on strike against the layed the construction and increased the By unanimous consent the pro forma Southern Ferro Alloys Co. In fact, the cost. In the first instance, there was amendments were withdrawn. CIO has called strikes against six Chatta­ a jurisdictional dispute between two Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. Chairman, I nooga plants-. The contract for the com­ unions which delayed the project, as I move to strike out the last word. pany named, which was entered into on recall, 2 or 4 months. In the second, th~ Mr. Chairman, the first thing I want October 24, 1945, was to continue until electricians' union refused to install cer..: to do is to correct an error that the alter October 1, 1946, and contained the fol­ tain electrical devices which had been ego of the CIO in this House keeps stat­ lowing clause: brought from some other State unless ing-for political purposes, as I see it, The contracting parties agree that for the union members were permitted to dis­ full period of this agreement, extension or for there could be no other reason for an renewal thereof, there shall be no strikes by assemble those devices and reassemble intelligent person to make such errone­ the union or lock-outs by the company. them on the job. ous statements-to the effect that we WhQ I wish to ask the gentleman from are trying to get something done for our Notwithstanding this provision, the Indiana how the bill covers those con­ country in this time of need are enemies contract entered into, which settled the tingerlCies in the event his amendment to labor. The fact is, we are trying to wages apparently to the satisfaction of is adopted. help labor by keeping them from doing the union. was breached that same after­ Mr. LANDIS. If a contract is made that which they seem determined to do, noon when a letter postmarked 3: 30 and either party breaks the cont:vact, whereby they are losing all the respect o'clock was mailed to the company de­ section 10 covers every contract that is and assistance -of the honest people of manding a reopening of wages and an made between management and labor. our land. When I say we are trying to increase of $2 per day. According to the Mr. BUCK. What about this matter help labor, I mean honest laboring men contract, this could not be discussed for of disassembling electrical equipment and not racketeers. 15 days, but in only 5 days after the con­ and reassembling it? Surely, surely honest people who belong tract was signed the union notified the Mr. LANDIS. Is it covered by a to labor organizations can see the hand­ National Labor Relations Board that a contract? writing on the wall, and know that Amer­ controversy existed with the company, Mr, BUCK. I think it is evident, Mr. ica is not going to put up with what is and demanded a strike vote. No confer­ Chairman, that if this amendment car­ now and has been going on for some time ence was held, no bargaining attempted. ries we will not have a solution to the in the way of strikes and stoppages of Later there was a conference, at which two conditions that have delayed that production, to the detriment of·the coun­ there was a demand of the union to airport and increased its construction try, the people, and themselves. Recon­ "take it or leave it", and no attempt was cost. version is being hampered-production so made 'to bargain in good faith. Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the badly needed is being stifled without any A like provision was contained in the gentleman yield? just cause or reason~ And when we try contract entered into with General Mo­ Mr. BUCK. I yield. to do something with the situation in tors, in which the CIO agreed not to Mr. MAY. Inasmuch as we have a bill behalf of the people of this country, this strike during the life of the contract, here reported by the Committee on bunch begins to cry "Wolf! Wolf!" until and yet they violated that provision and Labor that no member of the committee the people are sick and tired of it. This struck approximately 6 months before is for, have we not the right to assume happens every time a remedial measure the contract was to expire. This is true, that it is improper legislation? An<;! if in behalf of the public is brought before as I have stated, in 99 cases out of 100; that be true, what have we got to vote for this House. Let me tell you something: and it is up to the Congress to pass a except the Case substitute? The people are aroused as never before, law that will guarantee equal rights to Mr. BUCK. I agree with the gentle­ and if this Congress does not correct the both sides and special privilege to man. chaotic condition now existing, a number neither. That is the American way, and Mr. JENNINGS. Mr. Chairman, will of us might as well begin packing our any industry or labor organization that the gentleman yield? belongings, for we 'are not going to stay objects to it has something wrong with Mr. BUCK. I yield. here after this year. The people will see their Americanism. Mr. JENNINGS. I am in sympathy to that. As I see it, at this time the Case bill with the objective sought by section 13, Down our way the people believe in is the best piece of legislation before us. but it occurs to me as a lawyer that if being honest and carrying out the terms It does not satisfy me and it will not that provision were on the statute books satisfy the public, in that it does not go and I undertook to draft a bill seeking of their contracts. A gentleman will do far enough. But it is a step in the right relief under it with re.spect to a boycott so, and one that does not do so is not con­ direction, and unless we get something or a sympathetic strike I just could not sidered a gentleman. Yes; they believe better, it is my intention -to support it. conceive of how I would frame the prayer in keeping their word, whether it be writ­ Until we have laws that make each side of the bill, how I would formulate the ten or oral; they will carry out the terms responsible for their acts, that recognize fiat of a judge for an injunction that of their agreements. the interests of the public, and that are would afford any relief. Remember, we Let us see now what is being done in two-way streets instead of a dead-end, we cannot make people work. 99 out of every 100 strikes that are in will not get any relief from this crowd We can- declare sympathetic strikes progress at this time. Take the steel that holds their sacred and binding con­ and boycotts illegal and deprive partici­ strike and see what was included in that tracts only as scraps of paper. As has pants in such illegal acts of the rights contract, which has some time yet to run, been said on this floor, a war was caused under the Vvagner bill. And I believe if yet the CIO called a strike in the face once because a contract was considered this provision with respect to the use of of their solemn promise not to do so dur­ a scrap of paper. . the injunction were cut out and the pro­ ing the life of that contract which they Law-abiding citizens have always ad­ vision retained with respect to the loss secured, which gave them an increase in vocated the living up to ·contracts openly of their rights there would be a valid . wages, and which they qo now break. and freely made, and they should be enactment; but I just cannot conceive The no-strike clause reads as follows: carried out. Is it not peculiar to you how one would enforce that provision of During the term of this agreement, neither that practically all of the alter egos of an injunction. the union nor any employee, individually or the cro are afraid of the law and afraid Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will collectively, shall cause or take part in any of the courts. Down our way, the old the gentleman yield? _ strike, or other interruption, or any imped­ ing of production at any plant ot the com­ philosopher taught us that those who Mr. BUCK. I believe the gentleman pany covered by this agreement. Any em­ were afraid of the law and the courts from Tennessee has made an excellent ployee or employees who violate the provi­ were the criminals and the representa­ suggestion. sions of this section may be discharged from tives of the criminals. Down our way we Mr. HOFFMAN. I will take care of the employ of the company in accordance believe in law and order. We believe in the suggestion of the gentleman from With the procedure of section 8 of this agree­ that rule of action commanding what is Tennessee by an amendment which will ment. right_and prohibiting what is wrong. To 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 927 deny any American citizen or citizens, but bad for the group that commits it. tal can get together, because it will pay, whether it be individuals, associations, The problem that confronts Congress, if you will quit price ceilings. I say that or corporations, the right to go in a however, is to find an appropriate answer labor and capital will settle their strikes court of justice for a redress of a wrong, to these problems. over the board in collective bargaining and deny them the benefits of the law or I should like to point out that con­ under the laws we have now, without equity of the land, is placing ourselves in siderable reference has been made in the strikes, if you do not promise them that a position of agreeing with the an· debate that has just taken place to the .this Congress or the President or some· archists, and placing us on the side of State of California. May I say that Cali­ one Will · help them get better prices for anarchy. fornia has on its statute books today a their goods. Let us see what the Case bill does. law which prohibits secondary boycotts. I wonder how many men in this House First. It seeks to strengthen and con:· That was the so-called hot" cargo bill. know anything about labor difficulties tinue collective bargaining, by providing It is the law now in our State. With in the days before we had organized la­ a 30-day period without loss of position regard to the troubles taking place out bor. I have worked for 14 or 15 cents an to either side. How can anyone object there at the present time, it is due to hour in the freight houses. We worked to this provision? It is as much in be· a jurisdictional dispute. 10 hours~ day. If our job was not done, half of lab·or as it is in behalf of industry. What is the answer to the jurisdic~ they added another hour of two and It gives them time to cool off and work tional strikes? Are you going to pass they did not pay us anything. Unless a on a sane, sensible basis with reference a law saying there shall not be any person had a relative or stood in with to collective bargaining. As I have un· jurisdictional strikes? That will make the people who ran the organization, re· derstood the full import and meaning everybody feel just fine and virtuous, and gardless of the fact that he had chidren, of collective bargaining, I have always . perhaps some people will come back to he was pushed out of the picture, and been in favor of it. But as collective Congress. But I am not a bit sure you someone else, maybe a man who worked bargaining is operatiP g today, unless it can solve the problem by so oversimplified for $3 and $4 a day during the sum­ is supplanted with collective efficiency, a means. mer took his place; and this other man collective square dealing, collective hon· The thing that has to be done about who had worked all winter, the man with esty, and collective love of our fellow· a problem of this kind is that you have a family, was out of a job. There was man, it will not and cannot be a success. to find what a constructive remedy for favoritism of all kinds. Some of it was Second. The Case bill seeks to require it is. I have been trying very hard graft. I want to say that unless you had mutual responsibility for carrying out to find a constructive remedy. I think I know the line along. which a construc­ a pull you had no chance whatever. the sacred terms of a contract signed Another thing, we in Minneapolis never and matie. Can any American object to tive remedy for jurisdictional strikes has objected to a fellow having the same' that? to be found. I think it has to be found right to a job as we did but you could ,.. Third. It eliminates all force and vio­ in setting up some means of getting what lence from use by either or both sides, amounts to a judical decision of juris· start in the summer and get laid off be­ in industrial disputes. Those who be· dictional disputes. Legislation to accom­ cause you were the first one there. . lieve in this believe in organized com· plish that would have to be devised with When you came back, they would say, munities going under law and order, some care. I think you have to set up "We have nothing against you, but we do while those who are opposed to such a some kind of an impartial group that not need so many men now. But the provision place themselves on the side can make decisions with regard to first thing in the spring we will hire you." of anarchists and anarchy; and I feel these jurisdictional strikes, so that in· But when you got back there, you found that the intelligent membership of the stead of just forbidding tuberculosis, shall out that the salesman had promised jobs Congress should · support this provision. we say, which is about as reasonable as and they had 15 to 20 men in that organ­ To condemn the law is to condemn to say there shall not be jurisdictional ization working. When you spoke to the ourselves if the American Congress has disputes, you have an answer to the thing, . boss for a job, you had to say, "Mister'' made laws not in keeping with that ideal a machinery for preventing the difficulty, with your hat in your hand. Thank God and definition, then it is a pretty heavy and a means of avoiding it. we have a chance to organize now. I do charge that we are laying against the Therefore, in the instant case, where not believe any of these slave proposi­ lawmaking body of our land and against" Congress is attempting to legislate about tions is going to help the situation. ourselves. I am not willing to do that, these matters, it has seemed to me that There are many things that can be cor­ in order to please the whims of a class we have to recognize that our greatest rected, but that is a matter concerning of people who consider their contracts need is to get real consideration of the our tax laws. If you allow business and as scraps of paper. . problems involved here without reference labor to settle their own problems with­ Let us pass-the Case bill and not cripple either to a point of view which insists out congressional dictation, you will find it J:>y amendments; improve on it if we upon punitive measures or to a point of there will be no strikes. can, but not water it down because it is view which says, "we will not consider The CHAIRMAN. The Chair. recog. mild enough as it is. Let us work in the anything if there is opposition to it on nizes the gentleman from South Dakota interest of 130,000,000 citizens of our the part of the great labor organizations." [Mr. CAsE]. great country, and not discriminate Neither of those points of view will work, Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. against the bulk of them and work in and we have suffered from the absence Chairman, I want to talk directly to the interest of class legislation for a of enough people and enough earnest the amendment.- I shall make it ;...s small minority, who are in the main effort to get at these problems construe· short and as brief as I can. It is im­ dominated and ruled by a racketeering tively with both of those points of view possible for us to leave the solution of class whose ideals are as far from the eliminated. all problems to labor and management. American ideals as the moon is from the In the bill before us we had better stick We will find that the public is overlooked. earth. to· things where we know what we are A case directly in point is contained in Mr. GREEN. Mr. Chairman, I ask doing and what we can accomplish by the story that appeared in the Evening unanimous consent that all debate on .what we attempt. It is for that reason Star last night about a secondary boY· this amendment close in 12 minutes. that I think we should aim this legisla­ cott in New York City. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection tion we have before us today at improve­ The Associated Press · reported from to the request of the gentleman from ment of the collective-bargaining process, New York that a strike by 3,500 tugboat Pennsylvania? ' at machinery that has been tested by workers, supported by 35,000 longshore­ There was no objection. time and under other legislation, so that men, had tied up shipping in the har. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog. we will know what we are getting at and bor, and was cutting off a large portion nizes the gentleman from California [Mr. what we are going to accomplish as nearly of the city's food and fuel supplies·. It VOORHIS]. as possible under the circumstances. reported that Mayor O'Dwyer estimates Mr. VOORffiS of California. Mr. The CHAffiMAN. The Chair recog­ that the city would be without 80 per­ Chairman, there can be no disagreement nizes the gentleman from Minnesota cent of its normal flow of coal and other with the positioL that any lawless action [Mr. GALLAGHER]. fuel and nearly half of its food supply. or violence or abuse of power on the part Mr. GALLAGHER. Mr. Chairman, · Joseph P. Ryan, president of the ILA, of anybody is not only bad for the Nation Mr. Ford has stated that labor and capi· said that the 35,000 longshoremen of the 928 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 parent union would support the walkout by "(2) ln case such violation ls by a labor The other part of the amendment refusing to load or unload any ship which organization, such organization shall thereof makes the union-which the act as writ­ normally would be handled by the strikers. cease to have and cease to be entitled to a ten does not--liable for a violation of status of a representative or labor organiza­ I call your attention that this para­ tion under the National Labor Relations Act, section . [Mr. HOFFMAN]. - regulations as it deems necessary to govern· its Mr. MASON. Mr. Chairman, will th~ The amendment was agreed to. its procedures and the exercise of func­ tions. Each of the members of such board gentleman yield? Mr. BELL. Mr. Chairman, I offer an shall receive compensation at such rate, not Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle: amendment. exceeding $100 a day. as may be fixed by the man from Illinois. The Clerk read as follows: President, and shall receive his necessary Mr. MASON. It is the gentleman's Amendment offered by Mr. BELL: Page 3, travel and other expenses incurred in con­ purpose to make the loss of privileges line 19, of the Case amendment, strike out nection with the work of the board. Suoh under the National Labor Relations Act beginning in line 19, page 3, to and including compensation and expenses shall be paid by come into effect and the gentleman line 21, page 11, and insert in lieu thereof the Secretary of Labor. .the following: " (d) The Secretary of Labor shall provide thinks that is much more effective than for the board such stenographic, clerical, and any court injunction couJd possibLy be? "CERTIFICATION OF DISPUTES other assistants and such facilities, services, Mr. PACE. Mr. Chairman, will the "SEC. 2. Whenever the Secretary of Labor and supplies as may be necessary to enable gentleman yield? finds-- · ·the board to perform its functions. When Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle- " ( 1) that there is a labor dispute in which a board appointed under this section has man from, Georgia. . · ~he agencies of the Government charged with made its report, the board shall be dissolved Mr. PACE. Under the gentleman's the functions of mediation and conciliation and its records shall be transferred to the have been unable to bring the parties to Secretary o! Labor. amendment how does the farmer get his _agreement &nd have been unable to induce produce unloaded? the parties voluntarily to submit the contro­ "EXEMPTION Mr. HOFFMAN. Just the same as versy to arbitration; and ' "SEC. 4. Nothing in this act shall be appli­ under section 13 of the bill. It makes it . "(2) that a stoppage o! work seriously -cable with respect to any labor dispute sub­ unlawful for these men to interfere with affecting the national public interest and ject to the provisions of the Railway Labor affecting interstate or foreign commerce, or Act, as amended. those hauling produce or merchandise "APPROPRIATIONS If the national defense, or commerce within the to market. they interfere then they District of Columbia or any Territory or "SEC. 5. Such appropriations as may be lose their rights .under the NLRA. possession of the United States, has resulted necessary for carrying out the provisions of Mr. PACE. I again ask, How does .or threatens to result !rom such dispute; 'this act are hereby authorized." that allow the farmer to unload his "the Secretary shall certify such findin~s to produce? the President. Any such certification o! the Mr. BELL. Mr. Chairman, I ask unan­ Mr. HOFFMAN. It does not attempt Secretary shall be published in the Federal -imous consent to proceed for five addi­ to make the tl·uck driver unload the Register and shall designate the employer or tional minutes. employers involved in such dispute, the The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection _produce, but it does permit a farmer to groups or units of employees involved in send his hired man to market with his .to the request of the gentleman from such disputes, and the representative or rep,­ Missouri?· load of produce, or he may hire the . resentatives of such employees. The em- gentleman from Georgia to take the load ployers, employees, and representatives so There was no objection. down, and if there is interference by designated shall, for the purposes of this Mr. BELL. Mr. Chairman, this is force the union man and his union loses act, be regarded as the parties to the dispute. proposed as an amendment to the so­ the special rights given. by the National Whenever a question arises concerning the called Case bill. The purpose of my Labor Relations Act, and without which representation of such employees, the Sec­ ·amendment is to strike out that portion retary of Labor may request the National of the Case bill beginning at line 19 the union cannot exist. Labor Relations Board to certify to him. the on page · 3 of the Case bill, beginning Mr. WOODRUFF. Mr. Chairman, names of the representatives of such em.. with the heading "Labor-Management will the gentleman yield? ployees; and such Board shall determine the names of such representatives in the manner Mediation Board" and running over to Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle­ and including line 21 on page 11. I am man from Michigan. provided in section 9 of the National Labor Relations Act and shall certify such names seeking to substitute for that language Mr. WOODRUFF. As a matter of to the Secretary. the following language which appears in fact. anyone who knows anything about the so-called Norton bill, H. R. 4908. the C:alivery of farm produce to the mar­ "FACT-FINDING BOARDS "SEc. 3. (a) At any time within 5 days after You start on line 5 on the ·first page of ket by the farmer knows very well that the date of such certification by the Secre­ the Norton bill and go right on through the farmer unloads the produce or his tary of Labor, the President, in his discretion, that bill ·until you get to line 14 on hired man. may appoint a board to investigate such page 6. Mr. HOFFMAN. They do not in De­ labor dispute and to make a. report con­ . Mr. WHITTINGTON. If the gentle­ troit. The union decrees that you must 'taining its ftpdings of fact and recommen­ man will yield, is that the bill, H. R. 4908; hire a union man to drive the truck dations with respec't to such dispute. Such as introduced or as reported by the com­ through the city and to unload it. board shall be composed of three or more persons, none of whom has any pecuniary mittee? Mr. WOODRUFF. We do not have or -other private interests in the employers Mr. BELL. As reported by the com­ farmers up my way who can ·hire all this or employees who are parties to the dispute, mittee. to be done because the farmers in my .The board shall . proceed expeditiouslY to Mr. WHITTINGTON. With the com­ part of ~he country who deliver the~ make a thorough in~estig~tion o! all fact~ mfttee ame~dments? XCII-. -59 930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 Mr. BELL. ·That is right; at least, I Mr. JENKINS. In other words, the Mr.' BELL. I yield to the gentleman assume it is with all committee amend­ gentleman takes the old bill, except what from Michigan. · ments. It is H. R. 4908 as r find it the committee took out' of the bill in Mr. HOFFMAN. That there may be printed. · reporting it to the House? no misunderstanding, is the power of Here is my purpose in seeking the Mr. BELL. That is right. subpena and the cooling-off period in adoption of this amendment. The Case Mr. PLOESER. Does that mean you the provision which ·you offer as an bill sets up over a number of pages, down put back the same fact-finding provis­ amendment? to the bottom of page 11, a permanent ions of the old bill? · Mr. BELL. No; I think that was board, which I think will be a vast and Mr. BELL. I do not know what you stricken out in committee. growing addition to our bureaucracy. It call the old bill. This is the bill H. R. Mr. HOFFMAN. Is it in or out? provides that this board shall consist of 4908 as printed. Mr. BELL. That was stricken out, .six or more members. You can have as Mr. PLOESER. I should not call it as I understand, in committee. many as you want, but not less than six. the old bill, but at the same time that is Mr. HOFFMAN. Do you propose to It provides that at least two members what it appears to be right now. I put it back in? · are to represent labor, another two are mean, the Norton bill' as reported by the Mr. BELL. Not in this amendment. to represent business, and a third two committee. Mr. HOFFMAN. I thank the gentle­ are to represent the public. The two Mr. BELL. That is right. I follow man. representing the public will be a good exactly the language of the Norton bill Mr. HAILECK. Mr. Chairman, I rise deal like the man who interfered in the from line 5 on page 1 down to the last in opposit~on to the amendment. fight between the Irishman and his wife. paragraph providing for appropriations I think when we understand what the In about the next minute he found the which I assume the Case bill takes care of issue is here, the committee will not be Irishman on one side and his wife on in another form. very long in voting down this proposal. the other, each giving him some pretty Mr. PLOESER. That provides for In the first place, it seeks to write into good blows. I think that sort of a board fact-findings and a reported recom­ the bill provisions that apparently no one would not be effective. I do not think mendation to the President? on the Labor Committee favors, although it is the kind of board we want. -Mr:BELL. It is the printed form of they did r,eport it. The bill provides for the setting up the Norton bill providing for the setting · Secondly, it raises the specific question of a secretariat, for salaries, for clerk up of a board for ·the payment of a per hire, and all· of those things that go with between a strengthening of the processes diem-so-much a day-$100, and for the of mediation and conciliation, the offer­ the establishment of a permanent insti­ fact-finding. That is all there is in that tution. In order to live, that board is ing of the good services of Government provision. It merely provides for the to try to get management and men to­ going to have to have some strikes to fact-finding board and fixing the per settle. They have to have them or they gether when they are in disagreement, diem. Then, when they have done their as against setting up of so-called fact­ will go out of business. I do not like work, they go home again . that sort of set-up. finding boards, empowered and directed In the Norton bill a board of three or . Mr. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Chairman, to inquire into the facts involved and to more rr_embers is provided for, not as a will the gentleman yield? make public. recommendations thereon permanent board; it merely gives the Mr. BELL. I yield. as to settlement. President the right in the event a strike Mr. SLAUGHTER. The amendment I believe in collective bargaining. I arises which affects the public interest or which the gentleman offers, as I under-· think those processes should be strength­ which interferes with interstate com­ stand it, is taken verbatim from the ened. I do not believe we should have merce, a stoppage of work ·which affects Norton bill. substitution of governmental decision for the national interest, to appoint three or Mr. BELL. .That is right. free agreement, through the processes of more men for the })Urpose of helping to Mr. SLAUGHTER. The gentleman is collective bargaininJ. One of the things negotiate a settlement of that strike. aware of the fact that in the President's that has disturbed me about this whole When they have negotiated a settlement recommendation he asks for a 30-day fact-finding proposition is that the mak­ and their work is done, they are through. cooling-off period. ing of decisions by fact-finding boards You do hot have a continuing bureauc­ - Mr. BELL. That is right. may be carried to the point where, in racy to hamper the work of those who Mr. PLOESER. That will not be pro­ truth and in fact, we have a substitution want to go back to work. I do not under­ vided in the gentleman's amendment? of governmental decision for free agree­ stand the President in his message to ask Mr. BELL. No: that is true. ment. Neither management nor labor for any permanent board. All he wants Mr. SLAUGHTER. Nor does the wants that. are two very simple things. I think this amendment, as I understand it, which is The proposal of the gentleman from proposal of mine will not in anywise af­ offered by the gentleman, have any en­ , Missouri [Mr. BELL] sets up the power feet the thing that the gentleman from forcing provisions in it at all, does it? to intervene aft r conciliation and me­ South Dakota [Mr. CASE] is trying to. do. Mr. BELL. No; it does not have an diation have failed. The Case bill would I think it will even aid in what he is try­ enforcing provision. It is merely a pro­ start with mediation and conciliation, ing to do. On the other hand, I think vision to set up a temporary board for and finish up with voluntary arbitration; we will ·have a situation where we will the purpose of fact-finding, recom­ and beyond that it would not go. not saddle the country with another mendation, and helping the disputants to As bearing upon the question of bureaucracy by the adoption of the get together. whether we should have another agency amendment I have offered. Mr. SLAUGHTER. But with no ma­ or whether it should be in the Depart­ Mr. JENKINS. Mr. Chairman, will the chinery to maintain the status quo or to ment of Labor-and what I am about gentleman yield? provide, as the President said, for a cool­ to say applies with equal force against Mr. BELL. I yield. ing-off period. the Adams substitute that would set up Mr. JENKINS. Am I to understand . Mr. BELL. No; it does not provide for mediation and conciliation in the De­ that the gentleman starts with the Nor.­ anything of that kind. One of the rea­ partment of Labor-my view is that if ton bill on page 3 and includes all the sons why I think this provision is bet­ this agency is to accomplish any real language that is used in the Norton bill? ter than that in the Case bill is that you good, then it must not be the special Mr. BELL. It starts on page 1, line 5, have a lengthy provision setting up this .pleader of either side. It must, by its where it says, "Certification of disputes" .board providing for certain injunctive activities, by its conduct, and by its ac­ and takes all of the language of the Nor­ relief, which to my mind in its wording tion, unprejudiced and unbiased, always ton bill (lown to where it says, "Appro­ is rather indefinite in some respects. maintain itself in such position that it priations" two lines from the bottom. There has been no opportunity to work can go to the two sides of the controver­ All there is in those provisions is the that out irt committee. I am just not sy and say to either side, "Gentlemen, language providing for this board. certain what those provisions carry or how about this as a ma.tter of settle­ Mr. JENKINS. Do you take all of what they provide for in the Case bill ment?" pages 3 and 4 and follow the language which I am seeking to strike out. I think it is fair to say, and it is no right through as it was in the old bill? Mr. HOFFM:AN. Mr. Chairman, will challenge of the propriety of the arrange­ Mr. BELL. That is right. the gentleman yield? ment, that the Department o! Labor is 19.46 CON.GRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 931 set up as something of a champion of not be done by a mediation board or stitutional if you had left it in there. You labor. As I understand it, that is its members of a mediation board or the recognize you cannot force a mari to w'ork purpose. If that is true, then doe~ it committee. . against his will. · You also recogmze you not follow that the mediation and con­ The CHAIRMAN. The question is on cannot force a. man to stay in business ciliation service, if it is to be most ef­ the amendment offered by the gentle­ against his will. You recognize also that fective, must be free from any suspicion man from Indiana. free competition takes care of this situa­ of bias or prejudice. Should it not be The question was taken; and the Chair -tion. For instance, General Motors re­ set up to carry on this service that the being in doubt the Committee divided fused to settle with labor, and still is Government offers, to try to bring its and there were-yeas 64, noes 35. refusing to settle with labor over 1% people tog~ther through the processes of So the amendment was agreed to. cents or 2 cents or thereabouts, whi~h is collective bargaining, in which we all · The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman a ridiculous amount to hold out on when believe on the best possible basis. Why from California [Mr. PATTERSON] has an you say the country is in danger. You should we desert the mediation and con­ amendment at the desk which the Clerk say General Motors will not settle and ciliatior sections that are in the Case bill, you say labor will not settle with Gen­ with a well-set-up agency to do this job, will report. The Clerk read as follows: eral Motors. So what? Suppose man­ and go back to this proposition that ap­ agement and labor are stubborn in regard parently has few supporters, if any, any­ Amendment offered by Mr. PATTERSON: to the settlement of their disputes, pri­ where? Page 3, after the word "arbitration" in line 18, strike out all the balance of page 3 and vate competition will take care of that. Some suggestion is made about the fact all o! pages 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 1!, 12, 13, 14, · Kaiser, Chrysler, and all the other that this board would be permanent. and 15. automobile companies in America, and Yes; that is true as to the chairman, the ·every other company that is not so vice chairman, and the- secretary; but Mr. PA'ITERSON. Mr. Chairman, I stubborn will take care of the situation there is left in the provisions of the bill do not expect the Committee to adopt and General Motors will go out of busi­ provision for flexibility by which the this amendment; however, I have lis­ ness. Other companies, through com­ President can from time to time increase tened now for 4 days to the debate and I petition and free enterprise, will take or decrease the size of the over-all es­ have noticed particularly the Republican over. Why not? That is the American tablishment to meet .the necessities at Party in confusion and disagreeing ·way, and that is the way you say you any given time. among themselves, not knowing exactly are for; yet you come fn here and intro­ The CHAIRMAN. The time of the what they want to do and not knowing duce a bill, conceived in haste by some gentleman from Indiana has expired. where the bill was conceived or thought member of the Republican Party. I The question is on the amendment of­ of. I think the best thing to do is to take have listened to representatives of labor fered by the gentleman from Missouri. you at your word when you declared a and of industry testify before the Labor The amendment was rejected. very sensible policy. Committee, and I agree with them to this Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Chairman, I offer The declaration of policy is very good. extent that you cannot have involuntary an amendment. ' It says that you are for collective bar­ servitude in the United States of Amer­ The Clerk read as follows: gaining, which is· a good thing. You say ica and have democracy. That is true Amendment offered by }4r. LANDIS: that you are for mutuality of obligation in regard to involuntary. servitude, Page 6, line 10, after the word "appropriate" of contracts, which is already the law in whether you force this concept on labor insert the following·: "Provided, however, This every State in the Union. You say you or industry, and it will not work. There­ provisipn shall not apply to the Bureau of are against violence. We are all against fore, I say that the only thing good about Internal Revenue, f'ederal Social Security violence. Violence can be put down in this Case bill is the declaration of Policy; Agency, or any other department or agency any State of the Union. You have laws that it stands for the right to collective 1! the Government which holds as confiden­ to protect labor and industry in every bargaining. tial any and all information submitted to it." State of the Union in this regard, so The CHAIRMAN. The time of the Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Chairman, man­ there is no reason for duplication of legis• gentleman from California has expired. agement is dead set against the use of lation. Mr. PATTERSON. Mr. Chairman, I the power of subpena to obtain books You refused, wisely I think, to declare ask unanimous consent to proceed for and records. Labor is likewise opposed that a labor union should be a corpora­ one additional minute. to turning their books and records to a . tion any more than you would want in­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection group of fact finders. dustry or management to be forced into to the request of the gentleman from If you give several hundred Federal being a corporation. You were fair California? workers the power of subpena to obtain enough in that regard and I want to There was no objection. books and reeords, you will eliminate free compliment you on it because I recognize Mr. PATTERSON. I wish you were competition-business secrets would be you want to treat labor the same as you sincere in it, for this reason. Then you no longer secret. When you eliminate do management as far as forcing them go right ahead and do everything that is free competition in industry, private en­ to do something against their will, which humanly possible to cut labor's right terprise is gone. would probably be an unconstitutional and management's right to collective Labor objects to the power to sub­ gesture against both management and bargaining right out from under, after pena books and records of their organi­ labor. you say you are for it. I do not under­ zation because it would expose their. fi­ Then you begin to do what you say you stand your reasoning or your philosophy. nancial standing to their employers. do not want to do. You say that you do Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, will I have opposed the power of subpena not want to regiment labor, you say that the gentleman yield? in committee. I am opposed to the heavy you do not want to bring about govern­ . Mr. PATTERSON. I yield to the gen­ hand of the Federal Government, when mental control of labor or management: tleman from Indiana. it steps into the breach, requiring that you say you want less government in in­ Mr. HALLECK. That is typical of the collective-bargaining agreement shall oe dustry. You are doing, though, what ridiculous statements that are made con­ based upon the employer's ability to pay, they tried to do in Australia but it did cerning the position of several of us on Obviously some employers are better able not work. I have been down to Australia, this legislation. The gentleman just got t.o pay a high wage scale than others. I have talked to some of the governmen­ through saying that a n:umber of things Would you place a premiu~ upon lack of tal officials who have compulsory arbi­ were taken out that made this bill better 'thrift? Would you stifle initiative and tration. Even the court decisions against from his standpoint. Then he says that business ingenuity which in large part labor and management are not upheld in somebody has done everything humanly has made this Republic the wonder of the Australia because Australia is still a de­ possible to make it as bad as possible. world? mocracy. We are still a democracy here. Mr. PATTERSON. As a whole, I said In case of doubt that under the sec­ You say also, and very justly, that you that you have done very little in p.erfect­ tion here on page 6 they coUld go Into are against forced labor, which means ing this bill. I do not say that you have the Bureau of Internal Revenue and get involuntary servitude, and I am glad you made it as good as possible; no. I still confidential information out of it, I had the wisdom to strike that from the think it is a very, very bad and danger­ wanted to make clear that this could books because it would have been uncon- ous bill. Furthermore, you .know it will 932 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 not pass the Senate. You know it is a far as I was concerned,· I would see that effort, to one by one ·draw its teeth. · If ·political gesture here, and you know the ·the ·House, and consequently the public you do that to this bill, as the effort has President will not sign it. generally, would have a chance to debate been made · to do here today, you are Mr. BALDWIN of New York. Mr. this· question. It seems to me that was going to have a bill that will not accom· Chairman, I move to strike out the last reasonable and proper. It does not plish the purpose the ·House expects. .word. change one iota my own personal feel­ That is what happened to. the Connally­ · Mr. Chairman, nobody is more opposed ings and my own conviction that -we Smith bill. It was a good bill when it to the Case bill than I am. I made a are legislating here too hastily in going passed the House; and when it got back speech against it and against. this legis· about it in a few days, as we did with here from the Senate conference all the -lation the minute we opened general de· the Smith-Connally bill. And you can teeth had beeri drawn. I hope you will bate. But I believe in a fair fight, and I read the record of what I said when the not do that to this bill. believe that those who sincerely think Smith-Connally bill was passed. I said Mr. MUNDT. Mr. Chairman, I rise in that this bill is an answer to the question it was going to increase strikes, upset opposition to the pro forma amendment. have a right to express their points of management, and do all the thi:lgs we Mr. Chairman, I take this occasion view and not be criticized for doing it. did not want it to do. I say the same simply to call to the attention of the There are Members on that side of the thing now; ·that is exactly what is gotng ·House the fa:ct that we do' not have the .aisle, the majority side, in the Demo· to happen here now if we pass this legis· happy alternative suggested by my good cratic Party, Mr. Chairman, who control lation without prope~ committee con- friend the gentleman from New York this House and every committee in it, .side ·ration. · · [Mr. BALDWIN]. We !ust have not been· who have taken the attitude that they Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, will given the opportunity to consider strike want to see what the Republicans are go· the gentleman yield? legislation at a time when there is not a ing to do. Well, here is one Republican Mr. BALDWIN of New York. I yield period of stress or strain. These strikes that is going to protest this bill, vote to the gentleman from West Virginia. happen to be causing a most serious con­ against it, fight against it, but I am will· · Mr. RANDOLPH. The gentleman dition at the present time. There was .ing to do it in a fair fight and listen to speaking is courageous now as he always nothing done · before the strikes took the arguments on the other side. Do not is within the committee on which I ·am place to make it possible for the proper let us have any nonsense of lying down privileged to serve with him, regardless ·kind of settlement to be provided by on either side of the aisle when it comes of his viewpoint, which is not in issue. Government action. Certainly the third to a vote on this measure. ·noes the c;entleman feel that it would point of the dilemma proposed by the Mr. Chairman, I am thoroughly con­ ·be better for this House to deal with the gentleman from New York [Mr. BALD­ vinced that this legislation is going to be economfc unrest during a period of re­ WIN], we c,annot await, and that is until a repetition of the Smith-Connally Act. conversion rather than attempt to write .business and labor both reach such an I think that the Labor Committee should here on the floor over-all legislation deal­ unhappy state of bankruptcy that they have been allowed to study this bill. I ing with labor and management? ·both urge Congress to meet the problem think public hearings should have been Mr. BALDWIN of New 'York. I defi"­ now confronting us. Consequently, I held on it. You can say that we have nitely do, Mr. Chairman. I do not think urge the defeat of the Patterson amend­ delayed, delayed, and delayed. I made that ever in times of stress and excite­ ment and urge we continue here on the a pledge here the last time I spoke· for ment proper legislation is forthcoming. House floor to do our best to establish the Smith-Connally bill repeal when I I think the thing should be considered a working legislative formula for estab­ said I was convinced that the Labor Com· calmly after the event or sometime be­ lishing and maintaining industrial equity mittee would bring out something that fore ·the event, that the committee should and peace. .we could debate, and they did bring out have a chance and the public should have Mr . . BALDWIN of New York. Mr, something that we could debate. a chance to study the legislation that Chairman, will the gentleman yield? I now repeat that pledge. If we had we attempt to pass here, before it be­ Mr. MUNDT. I yield to the gentle­ had a chance to study this legislation comes permanent legislation. man from Ne\v York. and had a committee to go into the Mr. RANDOLPH. Would the gentle­ Mr. BALDWIN of New York. Were whole question of labor-management re· man announce his position on the Presi­ the steel strike and the General Motors lations, we would have semething in due dent's original request? strike announced just before the strikes time. My distinguished friend the gen· Mr. BALDWIN of New York. I am op­ ·happened, or were they forewarned sev­ tleman from Michigan at one point said posed to the President's original request. eral months before they happened? he thought the matter could be han· I stated that in the committee and I Mr. MUNDT. I think they were fore­ died by amend]. ng the Wagner Act. I state it here again. I support the pro­ warned. The fact remains that the think certain reasonable amendments to posal that was also presented in com· Committee on Labor did not bring out a the Wagner Act might solve this prob· mittee, that we should have our com· bill to meet the challenge of those im­ lem. However, nothing will solve the mittee get some funds and counsel to pending stri~es, consequently we are immediate strike problem except leader­ make a really fundamental study of forced to meet the situation here on the ship; leadership down at the other end labor-management relations and pass floor of the House with the bill suggested of Pennsylvania Avenue and elsewhere; fundamental law, taking time to do it. by my good colleague from South Da­ leadership on the part of labor and man­ This would have been the sensible ap­ kota, and constructed by Members on agement. You know that as well as I proach to the problem. I voted for that both sides of the aisle over the period do. The bills we pass here are not going in committee and it was beaten. of many months and by amendments to solve the current strike situation, and Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Chair­ here and now on the House floor. what we do in the future should be care­ man, I move to strike out the last two Mr. BALDWIN of New York. The fully studied and carefully analyzed, and '\Vords. Committee on Labor was holding hear­ after bringing in a bill we should hear Mr. Chairman, it is seldom that I find ings, the Committee on Labor was hoping arguments and make it as adaptable as myself in agreement with my good friend to do something on this matter without possible so that whenever it comes to a from New York fMr. BALDWIN]. He its hand being forced by public pressure. vote we will know what we are voting on. made the statement that if we did not I think if the committee had been given Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. . Chairman, will look out we were going to be in the same more time it might have brought out the gentleman yield? fix about this bill that we were about intelligent legislation. In order to have Mr. BALDWIN of New York. I yield the Smith-Connally bill. I am in thor· a debate in this House, we brought out to the gentleman from Michigan. ough accord with that statement. I just what in my opinion is a blank piece of Mr. HOFFMAN. I want to say to the want to remind the House of the history paper. I voted to bring it out, announc­ Members of this House that if it had not of that piece of legislation. - ing I would oppose it on the floor. been for the vote of the gentleman from · When that bill passed the Bouse it Mr. MUNDT. I think probably if the New York [Mr. BALDWIN] we would never had provisions in it that would have ac· Committee on Labor had been given suf· have brought anything out here. complished the purpose intended of ficient time, something might have ema­ Mr. BALDWIN of New York. Mr. minimizing strikes in defense industry. nated therefrom. But it is beyond ·me Chairman, I am perfectly willing to ac­ But the same thing happened there that to determine what that sufficient amount cept that statement. ·I made a proniise has been threatening here all day, the of time might· have to be because 1n here on the floor of this House that, as effort, and the repeated and consistent the nearly 8 years I have been here, the 1946 'CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 933 · Committee on Labor has been holding fair alike to labor and to capital but Mr. McCORMACK: Mr. Chairman, hearings almost every session and still which goes to the heart ·of the serious will the gentleman yield? no legislation has come forth to provide labor disturbances now strait-jacketing Mr. GREEN. I yield. a good industrial-relations program be­ recovery and reconversion in this coun­ Mr. McCORMACK. The thought en­ tween labor and capital in this country. try. We should stick with this problem tered my mind that the Adams substitute I am sure there is no disposition on the until by our collective good judgment we is pending, and that if the motion is car­ part of either side of this House to pass can develop and evolve an industrial re­ ried to close debate on the Case amend­ antilabor legislation, but there now. is lations act which finds some other way ment and all amendments thereto, that a very vigorous disposition ,to pass leg­ to settle industria! disputes other than would preclude any other Member from islation which will establish working ma­ the tidal wave of strikes now handicap­ debating another substitute for the Case chinery for creating and continuing ping every region of this country and en­ amendment. I believe that if any limi­ peaceful, just, and productive industrial couraging the onrush of inflation with tation that may be imposed on the de­ relations. all of its evil consequences. bate, it might be confined exclusively to Mr. COX. Mr. Chairman, will the Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I urge the the Adams amendment. Of course, that gentleman yield? · defeat of the Patterson amendment now would be a different matter. If it is not Mr. MUNDT. I am happy to yield to before us which would make a mockery confined exclusively to the Adams the gentleman. . of the present legislation. Let us amend amendment, then some other Member Mr. COX. I have the feeling there are and refine and correct the so-called Case might want to offer a substitute for the .many Members of the House who are bill as much as necessary to make it the Case amendment and thus would be cut indebted to the gentleman from New most effective and the most equitable in off from the opportunity to debate it. York [Mr. BALDWIN] for having declared the minds of the most Members of this Mr. HINSHAW. My understanding his position on this proposal, because it body and then let us enact it into legisla­ of the request was that it was for limi­ makes it easier for them to decide as to tion and send it along to the Senate for tation of time on the Case substitute. what would be the proper vote on the bill. further consideration. But let us not At the moment. the only amendments Mr. MUNDT. I agree with the gentle­ turn back from our tasks by adopting that are in order are amendments to man. We certainly are indebted to him such a complete repealer as the Patter­ the Case substitute. It would seem to for having cast the vote which makes it son proposal. me we could reach some agreement as to possible for us here in the Committee Some corrective amendments have al­ when we might conclude the perfection of the Whole House to discuss the entire ready been adopted tD the Case bill and of the Case substitute. strike problem. I agree with what one others are about to be presented in the Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr-. Chairman, I gentleman said earlier today. I think it course of the consideration of this legis­ withdraw my request, if it was a request. was the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. lation. Let us test and measure each Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. ·wHITTINGTON], that the Committee of suggested amendment by its workability, Chairman, a parliamentary inquiry. the Whole House is the best, the most its equity, and its efficacy but let us con­ The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will significant, and most important Com­ tinue to grapple with this problem until state it. . mittee of the Congress and that this is we have evolved the best industrial rela­ Mr. CASE of South Dakota. What not such a bad place to write legislation tions legislation of which we are collec­ amendment is now pending? after all. tively capable. The CHAIRMAN. The Case bill as an Mr. HOFii'MAN. Mr. Chairman, will With fairness toward all and malice original amendment is being considered the gentleman yield? toward none, we can thus succeed where for amendment. There is a substitute, Mr. MUNDT. I yield. the White House has failed. We can the Adams bill, which is subject to Mr. HOFFMAN. Having made that succeed in establishing a formula where­ amendment. If the Adams substitute is observation of the relative value of com­ by employers and ·employees can find a defeated, any other bill by way of amend­ mittees, are you willing to submit the way to adjust their differences through ment would be in order to the Case questions which come before the Com­ collective bargaining which in its at­ amendment. mittee on. Foreign Affairs to the Com­ tempt to provide justice for each side Mr. CASE of South Dakota. The in­ mittee of the Whole? also :will recognize that the general pub­ quiry I sought to submit was, What spe­ Mr. MUNDT. We always do because lic has an interest in such settlements cific amendment was pending at this we arrive at a committee conclusion and and th.:tt its interest, too, is entitled to time? bring out a bill, invariably with an open consideration. The CHAIRMAN. The amendment rule, so that the Committee of the Whole Mr. GREEN. Mr. Chairman, I move offered by the gentleman from California has precisely the same opportunity with to strike out the last word. [Mr. PATTERSON] is pending at this time. such legislation to amend and refine it Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, A vote has not been taken on the Patter­ as we are having today to amend and re­ before the gentleman proceeds, in an son amendment but will be taken follow­ fine the legislation now before.us for the effort to fil.ld the best policy for the ing the remarks by the gentleman from purpose of alleviating industrial disor­ House to pursue at this hour in the after­ Pennsylvania. ders. noon, I am wondering whether it would Mr. PATTERSON. We can have a vote Mr. Chairman, the great consuming be advisable to see if we can arrived at a on it now, if you want to. public of America, our returning veter­ definite period for debate on the. Case Mr. GREEN. I would rather you ans, our farmers, the honest, hard-work­ amendment and all amendments there­ waited until I spoke, because what I have ing people of our towns and cities have to. I wonder what the feeling of the to say may have a great bearing on the had enough and too much of the bicker­ membership would be as to my making outcome of the vote. ing and name-calling going on be­ a formal request in that respect. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman tween capital and labor. They have had Mr. HINSHAW. Do I understand from Pennsylvania is r~cognized for 5 enough and too much of strikes and work correctly that the Adams substitute minutes. stoppages which prolong existing scarci­ which has been offered to the Case bill Mr. GREEN. Mr. Chairman, being a ties and magnify the problems of inade­ can be followed by other substitutes for freshman Member of Congress, and being quate clothing, insufficient housing, and the Case bill? I wonder whether or not a member of the Labor Committee sitting a hundred and one other shortages which the gentleman's idea is to include all of .here for the last 4 days listening to the are crippling the reconversion efforts of the substitutes that may be offered for oratory on both sides of the House about this Republic. the Case bill or merely refers to the Case the lack of work which the Labor Com­ President Truman has done nothing bill exclusively. mittee does, I have been very much effective to remedy this serious situa­ Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will amused. As a member of that commit­ tion; the Labor Committee has failed the gentleman yield for a question? tee I think I have been quite active in the to bring out legislation fashioned to cor­ Mr. RANDOLPH. I should like to say House and the committee. rect conditi'Ons. Consequently, this that as a legislative son I am usually very The history of the legislation that is House is right in facing up to the respon­ happy to follow my legislative fathers, before us today, in a confusing way, \S sibilities which now confrdnt it. We because I have confidence in them. very comical. Shortly after the Presi­ should proceed calmly and dispassion~ Mr. HOFFMAN. That answers my dent delivered his message requesting ately to write labor legislation which is question . . that fact-finding boards be set up, there 934 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-I-IOUSE FEBRUARY _5 was a bill introduced by the distinguished BALDWIN], who is always vigorous in his then we have the monopoly prices of chairlady of the Labor Committee. the support, felt that that legislation should the various types of prices prevailing in gentlewoman from New Jer:;ey [Mrs. have an opportunity on the floor. I our economy today. The administered NoRTON]. Two or three days later we think that was very admirable of him. price is easily the most characteristic. held hearings. The previous speaker said it \\laS fil)e to This price is not based primarily on the First of all, before we held hearings, we have this discussion on the floor about law of supply and demand, operating had the Military Affairs Committee walk­ legislation. Why can we not have dis­ freely in the market place, but on the ing up and down outside our committee cussion about FEPC legislation like this judgment of corporation officials. These 1·oom with their rifles. on the floor. That was reported out of gentlemen f(Stimate the cost of the prod­ Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, a point of the Labor Committee. Is it not fuimy uct they make, the probable demand at order. that that does not get to the floor? Oh, various price levels, and then fix on the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will when you throw a piece of meat in to a one that is calculated to maximize profits. date the point of order. lot of wolves they certainly tear each If their estimate of sales turns out to Mr. MAY. I understand, of course, other apart in order to get a portion of it. be overoptimistic they reduce the volume that perhaps the gentleman is speal~ing That is what is happening here. Labor of production, not the price. Under this ironically about .the Military Affairs baiters are having a field day. system, despite the law of supply and Committee. The · CHAIRMAN. The time of the demand, prices tend to remain relatively Mr. GREEN. The gentleman will state gentleman from Pennsylvania has ex- inflexible. This system exists with the his point of order. pired. _ automobile industry, dominated by three Mr. MAY. I do not propose to stand Mr. GREEN. Mr. Chairman, I ask giant co:ncerns. here and permit that kind of a statement unanimous consent to proceed for 5 addi­ Thus such phrases as "free competi­ to go into the RECORD , . that the ·House tional minutes. . tion" and "the system of competitive en­ Military Affairs Committee was walking The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection terprise" cannot be applied in the same up and down outside the committee room to the request of the gentleman from sense to American business today as to with rifles. · Pennsylvania? business in the pre-Civil War period. Mr. GREEN. That statement is abso­ .. There was no objection. When GM refuses to cooperate. with lutely true, because· the chairman, as the Mr. GREEN. I do not ·want a piece the Government fact-finding board on newspapers stated, said they were goin· ~ of it; I do not want any part of it. I the ground that the American competi­ to see what the Labor Committee did. ·was against the fact-finding bill, I am tive system would be doomed, .it is not Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, I make a. against the Case bill. I do not know defending something hallowed by history point of order. I ask that the gentle­ · what this is going to look like when it and blessed by the founding fathers. It man's remarks be taken down and ex­ · is finished, but I will be against it be­ is fighting to preserve a system that is punged from the REcoRD. cause I do not think this is the proper competitive only in a very special and The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman way to write legislation that is so im­ very modern sense. from Pennsylvania will take his seat. portant and I do not believe its sup­ With the same· token there is some The gentleman from Kentucky will porters do either. How are they going truth in the idea that the responsibility state the words complained of. to vote on the proposition of letting of management has been the keystone Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, I withdraw certain liberal legislation reach this floor of American business. Yesterday, ye&-:- the 'point of order. that has been . pending in committee for today, no. . _ The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman months? In the early days of this country busi­ from Pennsylvania will proceed. ness management was closely associated· Mr. HOLIFIELD. Mr. Chairman, will THE OTHER POINTS IN PRESIDENT TRUMAN' S PROGRAM with ownership. Most businessses were the gentleman yield? small and the (!wners g~nerally managed Mr. GREEN. I yield to my distin­ Now we will talk about the serious them in person; in most cases worked guished colleague. things that are before Congress. I do side by side wjth employees: They exer­ Mr. HOLIFIELD. As a member of the not receive a great deal of mail about the cised a responsibility which everyone so-called terrible strikes that are going . Military Affairs Committee I want to say understood and approved~the resppnsi­ that I resent the remarks the gentleman on all over the ·country but I do get 'a bility associated with ownership, a re­ just made. That was a popgun that I lot of mail about demobilization. I do sponsibility that was severely restricted was carrying. not, however, see any bill coming out of and disciplined by a free and competitive Mr. GREEN. What I am trying to do the Committee on Military Affairs deal­ market place. They were in no position . is just to give you a history of the back­ ing ·with demobilization. What is being ·by reason of being managers of a busi­ ground of this legislation to show you done about that? Why do we not get ness to make decisions on wages, prices, what position the other Members of the the fathers ·with children at home out and profits that would have far-reaching House put the Labor Committee in every of the Army? You know it was the policy effects on the livelihood of their fellow time any piece of legislation is before of Hitler to take the young · men out of . citizens. the Labor Committee. I said in the Poland -and France to cut down the birth We have many thousa11ds of small committee that I felt like someone with rate in those countries. businessmen today that opfrate along a -pistol at his head but that I did not Excuse me for digressing. . the same lines but th'ey have ceased. to scare so easily. We hear much about free enterprise be a dominant factor in modern· eco­ The outcome was we had the May­ and much about the competitive system. nomic life. The dominant factor today Arends bill brought out on the floor by Responsibility of management. Free . is the huge corporation, the industrial the Rules Committee and it was defeated enterprise! Competitive systems! Bunk! . empire and the dominant persons in this on the rule. And justly so. Bunk! · Does anyone have even the set-up are not the owners, but hir~d V-Ie had before our committee John L. slightest idea that there is any compari­ managers. Lewis; Philip Murray, -william Green, all son between the competitive system as The average stoc!tholder has no con­ the leaders of organized labor. We had . known to the founding fathers of 'th~s trol over his property and little sense of Ira Moser, head of the National Associa­ country and the way it is done now? responsibility for it. It is not unfair to tion of Manufacturers; we had Eric There is as much similarity as there is describe American business today as a Johnston, former head· of the chamber · between a water pistol and the atomic system in which own,ership and respon­ of commerce. Not one of·those was in bomb. sibility have been effectively divorced. favor of this piece of legislation and Sure, we still have competition. Co~­ The result has been the enthronement of warned against legislating in haste. . petition so vastly -ch.anged that the old . hired managers and these 1.aen arE in We had voted in the committee to con­ boys would scarcely recognize it. . a position to affect the lives of millions tinue hearings on fact finding. · After V-Ie have a mar.ket. place today al) there . of people. They 1:...re not rigidly confined we returned from -our recess we held an­ · was in the first decacte of our Republic, by the law of supply a:nd demand, operat­ other committee meeting and . r.eported . but _the , prices that prevail there today . ing il) a fr~e mark,et place. _They can out, although I voted against .it, the are not by_an.d large .the automatic prices a~mi_nister prices and gear production piece of legislation that went to the Rules · our forefathe.rs knew . . Some of . :which . to support those prices. _Committee. _My ,disti!\B'uished.colleagU:e, -approximate the definition of Q.utom.ati-c, : . . ~ot}1ing is gu~~e. SQ us.el_es~ . ~s- ~g?t!ng the gentleman from New York [Mr. some of which are administered, and over slogans which have lost their orig- 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 935 inal meaning. We are being invited to 1ng nothirig else to vote for except the ting. They say they are not getting a defend "free enterprise.," "the American Case substitute, with whatever amend­ subsistence wage. For instance, in the competitive system," "right of manage­ ments may be adopted on it, I shall vote GM strike there are 40,000 women of ment to manage.'' Before setting our· for the Case bill. middle age with families who are among sights, let us make sure we know what Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will those on strike-not because they like it, this fight is all about. the gentleman yield? · but because they cannot live 'on what Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, I .rise in Mr. MAY. I yield to the gentleman they are getting. It is not a lot of big opposition to the pro forma amendment. from Michigan. bruiser men that just want to get out Mr. Ch&irman, in the 15 years I have Mr. HOFFMAN. Maybe the gentle­ and have fisticuffs with people just for been a Member of this great body I man's opinion of the Committee on La­ the joy of striking. And if you look over have tried to so conduct myself that I bor is not any better than my own opin­ the lists, as I have in the General Mo­ would not .subject any of my colleagues ion, but the Committee on Labor did tors . strike, you will find veteran after to criticism cr give them cause to criticize something that the Committee on Mili­ veteran being turned out of his home me. I have had some pride, and I have tary Affairs was never able to do, and with his family. The issue is not strikes, it now, in having been permitted by my that was to give the House a chance to but food, rent, clothing, doctors, orange constituents and by the pleasur.e of the vote on a bill. juice. Strikes are not pleasant things. Congress of the United States to serve Mr. MAY. We have never failed to They are the most heartbreaking expe­ as chairman of the House Military Affairs bring out any bill that we had jurisdic­ rience that people with no resources can Committee during the last 8 years, cover­ tion of, and we brought out the bill to go through. We will not settle the real ing several years before the beginning of repeal the War Labor Disputes Act, issue confronting us by passing the kind this desperate war in which we are now and the gentleman had the opportunity of legislation we are discussing here, and engaged. Having that pride -in the posi­ to vote on a rule on it. I think we all know it. tion that I :Q.old, I wa.nt to pay tribute, Mr. HOFFMAN. How about the May­ It is as though you had a boiling tea­ if I may, to the Committee on Labor as Arends bill? kettle .on the stove and you wanted to a whole. I am particularly. glad ' to pay Mr. MAY. The gentleman, I expect, stop the steam, so you stick your thumb tribute to my ~plendid colleague from the voted against it. I believe he voted in the spout. You do not stop the State of. West Virginia [Mr. RANDOLPH], against us consistently. steam, but you do blow the top o:ti the who has been specially courteous and Mr. BALDWIN of New York. Mr. teakettle and burn your finger. The way considerate of everyone. I know as act­ Chairman, will the gentleman yield? you stop the steam is to turn the stove ing chairman of the Labor Committee, Mr. MAY. I yield to the gentleman off. The way to stop strikes is to get at he has sought earnestly to have reported from New York. the root of the trouble. worth while labor legislation and I com- Mr. BALDWIN of New York. Mr. It reminds me of what Lincoln said, mend him. · Chairman, I regret as much as the gen­ and I think that is the issue involved I remember that my comm1ttee w·as tleman does any bickering as between here: subjected to the necessity of dealing committees. But is it not true that the It is the same principle in whatever sh ape with and l;>ringing to the House floor the Committee on Military Affairs, which it develops itself. It is the same spirit that Smith-Connally bill, and the only rea­ had under its jurisdiction the Smith­ says, "You toil and work and earn the bread son why we were here with it recently Connally bill and the May-Arends bill, and I will eat it." was because it had become necessary when the rule for that bill was defeated, No matter in what shape it comes, that it be repealed, and the biH known publicly stated, or if not publicly, cer­ whether from the mouth of the king who as the May-Arends bill would have re­ tainly to me privately, that if the Com­ seeks to bestride the people of his own pealed several provi.sions of that act; in mittee on Labor did not act, they would nation and live by the fruit of their labor fact, it repealed it outright except the reproduce that May-Arends bill for· con­ or from one race of men as an apology provision that still authorizes the Presi­ sideration by the House? I think per­ . for enslaving another race, it is the same .dent to maintain the War Labor Board haps my distinguished friend, the gen­ tyrannical principle. If Lincoln had until the end of the year. tleman from Pennsylvania, had that in lived today, he might have said, Now, the remarks of the gentleman mind when he talked about a military "Whether it be an economic king or a from Pennsylvania-and I can excuse parade in front of the Committee on corporation who se.eks to bestride the him because he says he is a freshman­ Military Affairs' door. people of his own nation and live on the that the House ·Committee on Military Mr. MAY. May I say to the gentle­ fruit of their labor, it is the same tyran­ Affairs was marching up and down the man that his question is rather compli­ nical principle." hall with guns and bayonets in order to cated, but I think I can answer it. We Nobody is against profits. I think we force the Committee on Labor to bring brought out that which was referred to ought to make all the profits we can something to the :floor, ought not to go us, by the Speaker of the House of Rep­ make, but not when it comes out of the ·in a public record for the people of the resentatives, with amendments. And stomachs of men and women. The country to read, and to think that com­ certainly considering the past perform­ question is, in this transition period­ mittees of Congress are up in arms ance of the Labor Committee, perhaps and I do not think the issue has been against each other, and that is the rea­ someone or some group should have done met squarely-in this twilight period be­ son why I objected to his words. I with­ something to get something reported, for tween war and peace, .if we are to keep drew them at the request of the leader­ surely everyone familiar with proceed­ down inflation, which is going to do no­ ship. Now I take it that he was merely ings in this House know..; that until the body any good, anyway, who is going to facetious in that remark. But I would gentleman from West Virginia [Mr. RAN­ pay the cost? Is it going to be paid out 'like to observe on the pending amend­ DOLPH] took charge that committee has of the excess war profits that have been ment which strikes out everything in the been on a sit-down strike. stored up or out of the stomachs of men Case bill except the declaration of policy Mrs. DOUGLAS of California. Mr. and women? I say it ought to come out in section 1 that it will probably make Chairman, I move to strike out the last of the profits. · the Case bill, even though it was all · two words. The CHAffiMAN. The question is on .stricken out except the policy section, a Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from the amendment offered by the gentleman better bill than the Committee oo Labor Pennsylvania may be a freshman, but I from California [Mr. PATTERSON]. bill, because· it does declare something think he has gone to the heart of the .of substance. matter. There has been confusion here . The amendment was rejected. Now I am going to vote for the Case today and yesterday because we are not Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, I offer bill. · I am going to do it because there talking to the issue. The issue is not an amendment. is no other alternative. The Committee strikes. The issue is a subsistence wage. The Clerk read as follows: ·on Labor has brought us a bill that none Strikes are the last desperate expression Amendment offered by Mr. HALLECK: On of its Members will 'sponsor, arid l take of men' and women in·· showing their page 8· of the Case. amendment, line 2, after "less than", strike out "fifty·~ and insert "two the position that that :being true, with needs. Strikes· are no picnic. You cim­ :tlundred and tlfty." that great committee having studied that not say it is just a few labor leaders. It bill, that it condemns 'it itself, and that ·r is 2,000,000 men and' women who say Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, I have ·am entitled to ~ote against it, and hav-. the·y cannot' work for what they are get- a little difficulty in understanding the 936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 position of some of the extreme oppo­ whom I have been talking about-they dent's proposal and against the Case bill, sition to these various. proposals before seem to know exactly what they are do­ he also said, "I don't know what is going us. Some of the Members violently in op­ ing. It rather amu.3es me although some to happen to the Case bill, but I am 'agin~ position will say before the Rules Com­ of its aspects are downright tragic. They it." If that is not saying you are "agin" mittee and they will say here that they apparently are refusing to join in an ef­ everything and anyt):ling, I cannot under.. think contracts should be binding. They fort to work out fair, equitable, and stand the . say that is just, decent. and fair. But proper legislation. Now, I do not yield further, Mr. Chair­ somehow or other they are just against The CHAIRMAN. The time of the man. anything that tries to make contracts gentleman from Indiana has expired. I referred to some of the strange binding. Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, I ask antics that have been going on. This They will say, "We are for law and or­ unanimou~ consent to proceed for 5 ad­ is what I mean: Some of these good der. We do not think that people should ditional minutes. friends of mine on the other side of the have their heads bashed in, their auto­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection aisle complain bitterly of the inclusion mobiles turned over, that assault and bat­ to the request of the gentleman from· of certain provisions for injunctive re­ tery should be committed, that malicious Indiana? lief, yet when the gentleman from Ohio trespass should be committed. We are There was no objection. [Mr. VoRYS], with support of many of us, against that." But when you try to do Mr. PATTERSON. Mr. Chairman, will offered an amendment to strike injunc­ something about it, they are just against the gentleman yield? tive action from the contract section of it. Mr. HALLECK. I yield. the bill, they voted against that amend Some of my radical friends on the other. Mr. PATTERSON. Do you suggest and ment. Some of them even voted for an side of the aisle who have been voicing go on record as in favor of repealing the amendment to require labor unions to such preposterous and absurd criticisms whole committee system and bringing incorporate. I know very well they do of all the proposals before us, including every single bill out here-perhaps I not believe in that. the proposal of President Truman, have would not be averse to it-and consider Now, to get down to this particular tried to create the impression that here legislation which you are holding up here amendment ·which I have offered, the in the House we do not know what we that President Truman also asked for? bill as drafted provided that these media­ are about. Now, if they want to plead He asked for 14 or 15 major pieces of guilty tion and conciliation oJ,Jerations should to not knowing what they- are legislation. A,re· you for 'bringing those go into effect as to the provisions therein about, that is all right with me, but for out here and discussing them and abol­ contained in respect to employers having myself I am not going to so plead. If ishing the committee system? they do not know what has been going 50 or more employees. Obviously, that Mr. HALLECK. Of course, I am not was put in there as some guide in respect on here, it is because they have not read for abolis!iing the committee system. the various proposals that have been be­ to a determination of the matter of pub­ - Mr. PATTERSON. Why do you make lic interest involved, because it is con­ fore us for days and days-yes, and be-: such a speech, then? cause they have not been paying any at­ templated that the procedures provided Mr. HALLECK. Now, you. have asked for in this section shall be invoked when tention to the debate. a question. Let me answer it. I never As a matter of fact, I would like the the public interest is involved. My view have been prone to indulge in any criti­ is that that figure of 50 is too low. I think country to know, I would like those who cism of committees. I recognize that scoff at Congress as an institution, to it should be 250. I recognize that many every member of a committee in the disputes between managerpent and men know that the last days here in th~ House of Representatives carries great House of Representatives have been in plants of a less number than 250 em­ responsibility. But let me say this to ployees could have serious consequences about the best exposition of representa­ the gentleman: Reference has been made tive government in action that I have for communities, for the men, and for to the action of the Labor Committee on management, but, on the other hand, seen in my time in Congress. I th~nk this legislation. Reference has been the address just made by the gentle-· having regard to the fact that what we made to the vote on the rule on the May­ are trying to do here is to invoke these woman from California was· listened to Arends bill. The gentleman should as intently as any I have heard here in procedures when great fundamental pub­ a long time. Why, look . around you. know, if he does not know, that that rule lic interest is involved, I think the figure was defeated in order to give the Labor should be raised. It should be under- . Yesterday and today as we have read this Committee a chance bill and considered various proposals, to consider this stood that this amendment applies only matter. to the mediation and conciliation sec­ we t.ave had on the floor a greater num~ Now, more specifically, the gentleman ber of our membership than I have seen tions of the bill. I believe, in addition here for the consideration of any pro­ from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREEN] who to that, it will be understood that the posal in a long, long time. Is that not spoke a moment ago, is, I understand, a processes of mediation and conciliation member of the Labor Committee. What as a voluntary matter as offered in con­ true? Who will deny it? assurance-yes, less than assurance­ troversies would still be available, but The President sent a message to Con~ gress asking us to do something. He what indication could any of us have this would make the limit apply to those outlined his program. But the gentle­ that anything would be forthcoming procedures that are outlined definitely man from Pennsylvania said he was from the Labor Committee when he, as in the bill and about which we have had against it. The President said, "If you a member of it, stands here and an­ so much discussion. do not like this, then do something." nounces that he is "just 'agin' anything The CHAIRMAN. The time of the Now, right or wrong, that is exactly what and everything?" gentleman from Indiana has expired. the House of Representatives is doing. Mr. GREEN. Mr. Chairman, will the The question is on the amendment That is what the overwhelming majority gentleman yield? offered by the gentleman from Indiana. of the people of the country want us to Mr. HALLECK. Yes. I wlll yield, I The amendment was agreed to. do. I am· not going to plead guilty to mentioned the gentleman's name. Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, I of­ such a lack of intelligence and charac­ Mr. GREEN. I did not say that I was fer an amendment. ter, understanding and integrity in the against anything. I said I was against The Clerk r_ead as follows: membership of the House of Representa­ the fact-finding bill. I was against the Amendment offered by Mr. HoFFMAN: On Case bill. The procedure you are using page 12" of the Case bill strike out all tives as would lead the people to believe of section 11 down to and including the word there is not enough collective good judg­ in the House to write a bill is not the "provisions" in line 2 of page 13 and insert ment here to approach this matter with proper procedure. You stand here and in lieu thereof the following: discretion, in fairness, and in equity, you are for everything that is good and "SEc. 11. Violence and intimidation: (a) in an effort to try and get something holy and you are against sin, but you Whenever any act mentioned in this or any done. come in with a closed rule on amend­ subsequent section shall obstruct or inter­ I have offered this amendment as a ments to the Smith-Connally bill. fere with interstate or foreign commerce- part of the process of trying to har­ Mr. HALLECK. Now, I refuse to "(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, monize judgment and viewpoints and get yield further, Mr. Chairman, because I alone or acting with another or others, di­ rectly or indirectly, by force, coercion, in­ some legislation that will be workable. want to call to the gentleman's attention timidation, or by show or threat of force, or I would like to say this further, in re­ the fact that when he said he was against attempt to use force, to force or attempt to spect to some of my aforesaid friends the committee bill and against the Presi- force any person to become, be, or remain a . 1946 CONGRESSIONAL- RECORD-HOUSE 937 member of any labor organization; or, by' anyone to, by force or threat, prevent an "These excesses connected with picketing force, coercion, intiinidatlon, or threat of individu!i-1 from quitt~ng his work, and are bound to have a disastrous effect in the force, or attempt to use force, to force or that is as it should be, but the section long run on the basic right to picket. It is• attempt to force any person to refrain from therefore, greatly in the interest of the engaging, or remaining in employment, or does not prevent the use directly or indi­ unions themselves so to control picketing by force, coercion, intimidation, or by show rectly of force, coercion, or intimidation that access to plants is not denied by force. or threat of force, or attempt to use force, or the show or threat of force, to force "Police efforts to keep access to plants open to interfere or attempt to interfere with any a man to join a union or to compel him should be supported by responsible leaders; employee or other person on his or her way to pay dues, nor does it protect a man not resisted as some reports indicate. It to or from employment, or while seeking em­ from similar tactics when h~ is seeking they are defied. the inevitable result will be ployment, which in any way contribute~ to employment. The ob~ectives of the sec­ resort to the courts by those aggrieved, with the production of anything which may · b~­ consequent injunctions. Even the statutes come an article of interstate or foreign com­ tion are good, but its provisions do not protecting labor's legitimate rights from merce. go far enough. injunctions may thus be endangered." "(c) It shall be unlawful for any labor I do not want to support legislation organization or the officers thereof, or for any which prevents or which destroys the Here is one other thing: Instead of other organization or the officers thereof, to right to strik~. As I have stated time providing a criminal penalty, the amend­ commit any of the acts herein made unlaw­ and again, if men .working want to strike ment follows the Case bill but also pro­ ful when committed by a person or a grouP' let them strike, but let them get out of vides that those who crack heads be­ of persons. yond the picket line in an effort to force "(d) Interference in the manner pre­ · the way of individuals who want to work. -.scribed in section 1 with each employee or This bill does prescribe that it shall men to join a union in order to work other person is hereby made a separate and be unlawful for anyone to use violence shall lose their special privileges under distinct offense." on the picket line, or for anyone to in­ the National Labor Relations Act. terfere with a man on his way to or Mr. SMITH of Virginis.. Mr. Chair-. Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, I ask from his work. Remember, it does not man, will the gentleman yield? unanimous consent· to strike out section destroy picketing. Men may picket to Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle­ (d) of the amendment which. makes each man from Virginia. interference a separate act. their heart's content just as long as they. . The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, do not go over the line and by force or. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. The gentle­ it is so ordered. threat of force prevent a man from man has made many speeches against. There was no objection. going to work. force and violence on the picket line. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Chair­ I may say to· the gentlemen on the Mr. HOFFMAN. That is right. man, I reserve a point of order and in the majority side and to those on this side Mr. SMITH of Virginia. The Case bill meantime I should like to make an in-· who are opposed to this legislation that provides for an injunction so that peo­ quiry. last week there was an article in the ple can get in and out of their places of Does this amendment carry any crim­ Washington Daily News of January 23 business. inal penalties? last by the American Civil Liberties Mr. HOFFMAN. Yes. Mr. HOFFMAN. It does not. Union condemning those who use force Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Why does the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman and -:iolence on the picket line. This gentleman withdraw that? from Michigan is recognized. amendment goes no further than did Mr. HOFFMAN. Because there are so Mr. HOF•FMAN: Mr. Ghairman-­ that comment by the American Civil many courts, so many judges, so many Mr. MASON. Mr. Chairman, will the Liberties Union and which reads as fol­ different opinions. Also because we can gentleman yield? lows: end force and violence, the practice of Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield for a question. THE RIGHT TO PICKET blocking factory entrances by taking Mr. MASON. We have ·heard in the The American Civil Liberties Union, an from unions the special pr;vileges gJven organization always active in defending the them by the National Labor Relations House for the last 2 days a great deal rights of workers and other citizens, has sent . about the fact that the material in the the following statement to heads of national Act, without which they cannot carry on' Case bill is new material. Is it not true and local labor unions now engaged in their intimidation and coercion. All that a large part of the material in the strikes: you need to do is to read the press. Case bill was introduced by the gentle­ "The American Civil Liberties Union has· Here one judge grants an injunction;· man from Michigan back in 1939? And always supported the right . to picket at any another judge denies an injunction. that practically everything in the Case time, at any. place, for any purpose. Picket­ You see every day in the paper ar those· bill has been introduced by the gentle­ ing, as the courts have held, is a form of free varying opinions. If there is one thing man and others and has gone to the La­ speech and assembly and is supported on that that organized labor depends upon for bor Committee in the last 6_years? principle. the preservation of its unions it is the "The only limitations by public authorities Mr. HOFFMAN. At one time or an­ on picketing supported by the union are fact that it has special privileges under other-and some of it before the Com­ those to keep traffic open for pedestrians and the National Labor Relations Act and if mittee on the Judiciary. vehicles, to insure access to places picketed, · they resort to force and violence, if they Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous con­ to prevent the use of fraudulent signs, and to destroy property, if they crack heads, and' sent to revise and extend my remarks. maintain order. The union has supported you take away that special privilege, I The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to mass p!cketing where these conditions are say that will stop, because they are de­ the request of the gentleman from Michi­ met. pendent upon the exercise of that privi­ "But no claims of the rights to plcKe~ gan? justify the use of force to prevent access to lege for their power an.d existence. The' There was no objection. plants on strike by those who are willing to section still makes it unlawful to use Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, this cross picket lines. Reports of current strikes force. amendment does not in any way affect show instances in which pickets have pre­ Mr. JUDD. Mr. Chairman, will the the purpose of section 11 insofar as pro­ vented access to plants by executive officers, gentleman yield? hibiting violence on the picket line, vio­ by maintenance crews keeping ·~p such serv­ Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle­ lence anywhere in connection with any ices as heat and lighting, and by clerical man from Minnesota. strike or any labor dispute. workers not members {)f the striking union. "These are plain abusel!l of the right of Mr. JUDD. Did I understand the Wh.\e the amendment does is to add picketing. In the view of the American Civil amendment included language referring a paragraph at the top which relates Liberties Union, the right of access, not only to the threat or an attempt to force solely to interstate and foreign com­ of these persons, but of any and all others, is somebody to join or not join a union? merce, an amendment to sections 5 and undebatable. The two rights-of picketing Mr. HOFFMAN. It does. 13 and of access to places picketed-are not which have been accepted by the Mr. JUDD. That is beyond the lan­ House. con.fiicting. The other provision in it strikes from "The present issue, however, goes further guage of section 11. This has only to do the committee bill that language which than the right of access to places across a. with quitting or entering into employ­ has to do with the issUing of injunctions, picket line. It affects profoundly the rights ment. of organized labor itself, for wherev.er the Mr. HOFFMAN. The language of this which the House has also accepted with use of force by pickets is successful, public reference to section 10 and section 13. sympathy with unions is alienated and en­ bill prevents anyone interfering through In the Case bill, in line 17 you have couragement is given to the opponents o~ force with a man going to his job or language which makes it an offense for labor's rights. · conilng away from his job. 938 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 5- Mr. JUDD. But the gentt'eman has ment has no right to interfere \lith or browbeat and dominate the ·President the joining or not joining a union here; invade a labor union, or to undertake to and Congress. · Mr. Reuther i:n his tele­ as I understand it. employ officials of labor unio~s in order gram to the President stated that prices Mr. HOFFMAN. That is right. If you to control the actions of such unions. and not wages had become the major want to permit an organizer to go around On the other hand, when management issue in the country's labor disputes and with a club and tell John Jones, "Now, employs a foreman to represent manage­ charged that industry, spearheaded by John, you join the union, or I will crack ment in the direction and operation of its Steel and -~he General Motors Corp.,. is your head or give you a black eye." You business, this foreman, as the respesenta­ determined to hijack the American can do it by rejecting this amendment. tive of management, should he true to his people and the American Government Mr. JUDD. I am only asking for in­ trust and represent management. into. accepting unjustified price increases formation because I think the House Section 11 of this act outlaws force, that would provide the most outrageous should understand it includes that pro­ violence, and compulsion on the part of prcfits in history, vision which is beyond section 11 of the either employer or employee. Reuther further stated, in effect, that Case bill. The district courts of the United States General Motors and other large corpo­ Mr. HOFFMAN. · Yes. And while are given the power to prevent such vio­ rations were resigned to granting . wage there are some to whom the Case bill lence and threats of violence by enjoin­ increases recommended by the President is the alpha and the omega of labor leg­ ing the person or persons who are about and then he said his organization is islation, some do not so regard it. The to commit or who ar~; committing such ready to accept those recommendations amendment prohibits an organizer or a acts. Congress, in carrying out the will as a down payment on what it is justly "goon squad" from doing, as has been of the great majority of the people of and equitably entitled to. done in some of the cities, going to a this country, is n1aking a decision for the Not content to speak for those he man's home, throwing a brickbat people through the law and through the claims to represent in fighting for higher through a window of his home, threaten­ enforcement of the law; that this Gov­ wages, he lays aside that issue as settled ing his wife or children, in order to force ernment of ours shall declare that it has in his own mind and steps over into the him to join the. union or pay his dues. supreme power over all groups of soc,iety. field of ma'ilagement and undertakes to The ChAIRMAN. The time of the Now the amendment offered by the gen­ preempt, occupy, control, and domipate gentleman from 'Viichigan has expired. tlemar. from Michigan falls short ·of at­ the field cf management and ownership taintng one of the main purposes of this in business, and undertakes to tell them Mr. JENNINGS. Mr. Chairman, I rise bill and that is to prevent the use of at what prices they shall sell their prod­ in opposition to the ·amendment offered violence or forcP. by either side in labor ucts. Having thus proclaimed himself by the gentleman from Michigan: The disputes. We are not concerned with the boss, not only of labor but of man­ gentleman offering this amendment loses· the question of whether an employee is agement· and business also, he swaggers sight of the real purpose of the bill we or is not a member of a labor union. The onto the floor of Congress and demands are now considering. This bill nas been question here presented is more impor-. that th~ Congress, at his behest, revise introduced and 'tt will be passed by · this tant than membership or nonmember­ the tax laws so as to punish industry and House to give expression to the desire and ship in a union. The question of whether to deprive it of the relief sought to be the will of the great majority of the peo­ or not a man becomes a member of a afforded industrie~ that have suffered ple of this country for industrial peace. union or remains a member of a union is, losses by undertaking to produce war It recognizes and undertakes to protect and properly should be, a matter for him supplies for this ::iovernment and its al­ the public interest in seeking to settle to decide. And we are not undertaking to lies, and tc enable industry to convert fairly and as quickly as possible all labor. investigate or police the question of its plants from war· plants into plants disputes affecting the public interest to whether or not a man is voluntarily or to produce the goods that the people of the end that there may be no interrup­ otherwise joining a union. We are un­ this country now so desperately need, tion in the production and distribution of dertaking here to provide methods by and to enable them to continue to give goods that are absolutely essential to the which such paralyzing strikes as are now to the milLons of workers of this country prosperity, happiness, and health of the beinc carried on in the automobile in­ profitable employm~nt. And he states people of this country. This measure dustry and in the steel industry, and as to the President of this Nation in omi­ recognizes the right of labor to organize are threatened in other great industries nous and threatening language: "The and bargain collectively with employers. may be avoided; first, through collective fight of the General Motors workers is It seeks to protect and strengthen col­ bargaining; and second, if that fails, your fight anc' the fight of every Ameri­ lective bargaining. It recognizes the through conciliation, mediation, or can. It demands your immediate and fact that in a complex industrial system through voluntary &.rbitration. · We are militant support." In other words, Wal­ such as ours warfare in one branch of engaged in an attempt to accomplish ter P. Reuthm demands of the President industry closes down plants and throws this great purpose, and the gentleman of the United States that he dance to out of employment thousands and some­ from Michigan is undertaking to lead us Reuther's music and that he abandon times, as now, millions of men and wom­ from the beateri path off into the woods. his position as Chief Executive of all the en in other branches of industry. I am afraid if he were on a bear hunt and people, a· position that should be one of The oill does not seek to substitute was on the trail of the bear and a mouse impartiality and fairness, and become a Government dictation for contracts free- · crossed his path, he would take off after partisan of the CIO in its effort to domi­ Iy entered into between management and the mouse. nate the industry of this country and to ownership on the one hand and their The high command of the CIO and seize control of all branches of the Gov­ employees on the other. It sets up gov­ the leaders of its Political Action Com­ ernment. ernmental machinery to promote the mittee are undertaking to take over our As a matter of fact, the President has peaceful settlement of labor disputes. system of free economy. They have the subjected himself to an enfilading fire in Why is it desirable ·that management run of the White House and are under­ this matter. and ownership on the one hand and their· taking to dictate to the elected repre­ On the one hand, many commenta­ employees on the other voluntary ne­ sentatives of the people of this ·Nation tors, columnists, and close observers of gotiate and bargain? In order that they what action Congress shall or shall not his course of action have said he is an may enter into a contract. Should this take with respect to passing laws and ally of the CIO in these movements that contract when made be equally binding setting UJ:. machinery to preserve our have paralyzed the production of· this and enforceable on both parties? ·All form of government and our system of country. On the other hand, Mr. fair-minded men will readily admit that free economy by free men and women in Reuther and other high-ranking labor a contract when it is entered into must a free country. leaders have charged that the President, not be nullified or destroyed by either · Mr. Walter P. Reuther, international as a result of his mild request for author­ employer or employees, whether by a vice' president of the Ur!ited Automobile ity to appoint fact-finding boards, and l<>ck-out or a shut-down by an employer, Workers, CIO, in his telegram to Presi­ in his request for a 30-day cooling-o1f or by willful and unlawful violence on the dent Truman on StU"lday, February 2, period, has deserted the causa of labor part of either employer or employees. clearly reveals the unprecedented and and become the enemy of the working Collective bargaining requires that· dhallenging attitude of this organiza­ people. labor be on one side of the table and tion in its attempt to seize the industry In Chicago the other day, Mr. Clark, management on the other side. Manage~ of this country by the throat and to the head of the CIO meat-cutters organ- 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 939 ization, denounced the President's action cerning President Truman's fact-finding section which seeks to prevent force and in seizing the meat-packing establish­ proposal? violence. It is my own thought, and I ments in Chicago as that of a strike­ Mr. DE LACY. I would say that Pres­ would offer the suggestion to the gen­ breaker, and charged that he had dou- ident Truman unfortunately thought ·he tleman from Washington, that the man ble-crossed the meat cutters. , could appease some of the enemies of or men who cut the throats of labor are Let us confine ours~lves to the purpose labor by putting a 30-day cooling-off pe­ the men who endorse, and who bring of this bill and not bEf led astray by the riod in his bill. I think that fact finding about practices which are calculated to amendment offered by the gentleman is desirable. bring labor into disrepute. I challenge from Michigan. Let us not be deterred Mr. HALLECK. The gentleman would any Member of this House who is on the by these people who are drunk with in effect and substance make about the floor today who prides himself on being power. The people of this country may same statements about the fact-finding a friend of labor to get up and condone well ask Mr. Reuther: "Upon what meat proposal sent up here by the President? the practice of force and violence. The doth this our Caesar feed that he is Mr. DE LACY. I would say that any proposition, of course, is so absurd that grown so great?" By this bill we, as the e:fiort which weakens labor's bargaining no one will do it. representatives of all the people, in the position when tt is across the table from Mr. GALLAGHER. Mr. Chairman, will discharge of our duty, are determined to the most powerful corporations in Amer­ the gentleman yield? establish justice, insure domestic tran­ ica weakens labor and destroys the whole Mr. SLAUGHTER. I yield. quillity, promote the general welfare, economic position of the American peo­ Mr. GALLAGHER. You are assuming and secure the blessings of liberty to, ple. that labor is the cause of all these strikes. every man, woman, and child in this Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, will I want to ask you, if the soldier who has Nation. the gentleman yield? been fighting in the Pacific comes and Mr. DE LACY. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. DE LACY. I yield with pleasure, gets the same job that one of the labor­ move to strike out the last two words. - Mr. RANDOLPH. I hope that the gen­ ers had at this time, would he get the Mr. Chairman, I always like to listen tleman will not insist that the President same wages or would he get lower wages? to the distinguished gentleman from of the United States desires to weaken Mr. SLAUGHTER. I have no idea how Indiana [Mr. HALLECK]. He goes on in or strengthen any group in this country to answer the gentleman's question, be­ his smooth, forceful, logical way, gen­ during the period of reconversion. He cause I do not understand it. erally addressing himself to the meat of said to this Congress and to the American Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, the problem, very adroitly twisting tails people that during this period of re­ will the gentleman yield? and telling the House many things that conversic t he wanted the production of Mr. SLAUGHTER. I yield to the gen­ lie behind the legislation that is before essential consumer goods to be made as tleman from New York. us today. But the fact of the matter is quickly as possible available to the Amer­ Mr. MARCANTONIO. I think the gen­ that it does · not make a great deal of ican people. That is the reason the Pres­ tleman should point out just what sec­ difference how you cut labor's throat. ident's proposal is here. He said for that tion 11 does. Is it not a fact that, under It does not make much difierence reason it would be used as an instrumen­ section 11, yoti give the courts the power whether you do it with one bill or an­ tality only in the extreme cases where , to enjoin labor from doing things which other _bill, with one amendment or an­ the public interest was involved. The have been considered sacred since 1932 other amendment. The plain fact of gentleman certainly does not want to under the Norris-LaGuardia Anti­ the matter is that here is labor today misconstrue the President's request for Injunction Act? representing the great body of the legislation. Mr. SLAUGHTER. Why certainly not. American people who are trying to keep Mr. DE LACY. I cannot misconstrue The gentleman, good lawyer that he is, their living standards up in the face of the plain provision which puts a curb does not think that. If he does, he has slashes that have come during this re­ on labor's power to bargain with the not read the Norris-LaGuardia Act in conversion period. It is not their fault most powerful monopolies in this coun­ some time. Does the gentleman. say for that their wages are lower. It is not try. Why do we not get down to busi­ one moment that the Norris-LaGuardia their fault that they are out of work. ness on the full employment bill? Why Act ever gave anybody the right, title, or Only half of those employed in 1944 in do not we get down to business on the patent to the right to resort to violence? my congressional district are working 65-.cent minimum wage bill? Why do Of course not. today. Now, are those men and women we not pass some housing legislation? Mr. MARCANTONIO. Of course not. with famiUes supposed to like that situa­ ·Why do we not put suits and shirts on But it gave labor certain guaranties. Has tion? They are out of work, and the the backs of these veterans who are the gentleman read section 114 of the ones that are working have had their coming back? Why do we not do some­ Norris-LaGuardia Act? pay cut up to 30 percent. These great Mr. SLAUGHTER. I do not know the strikes that have swept across the face thing to relieve these economic strains number, but I am familiar with the Nor­ of this Nation are the expressions of the instead of trying to fuel the fire which ris-LaGuardia Act. Let me ask the gen­ determination of the American people has grown so hot that it has scared some tleman a question. Does the gentleman not to yield to that wage cutting, not to of the distinguished Members ·on the say that force and violence should not be yield supinely, not to surrender their other side of the aisle. You came in restricted? Does the gentleman say that livelihood rmd their bread and their with a bill, a bill to carry us back to the force and violence should not be restrict­ family's welfare to unemployment, to days before the injunction was taken ed whether by injunction or by the po­ wage cuts. This legislation we have be­ away from the employer-minded courts, liceman on the beat or by public opinion, fore us today is meant to stab the valiant one of the most vicious bills I have ever or more important, by the labor leaders representatives of the great mass of the seen. What has happened? You have themselves, who should be responsive to American people in the back. become so frightened that you are run­ public opinion and to the welfare of their Labor is engaged today in a life-and­ ning-in 16 directions. It is laughable. members? death struggle with the most powerful The CHAIRMAN. The time of the Mr. MARCANTONIO. In answer to corporations this country has ever seen. gentleman from Washington has ex­ the question of the gentleman which he This legislation is a stab in the back of pired. put to me, we say that the issue here is those patriotic American men and women - Mr. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Chairman, I that you are attempting to use a ban who are fighting the battle of the farm­ move to strike out the last word. against force and violence realistically ers through their efiorts to have higher Mr. Chairman, I listened with great and in effect to deprive labor of its right wages, and who are fighting the battle interest to the gentleman from Wash­ to peaceful picketing, its right to adver­ of the consumeL·s against the effort of ington who has just spoken, and in par­ tise, and its right to do everything else. the great corporations to smash the ticular I paid close attention to one or Mr. SLAUGHTER. Apparently the price levels. two of -his statements. One statement gentleman has not read the section. Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, will was to the effect that it does not make Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? any difference how you cut labor's the gentleman yield? Mr. DE LACY. I yield to the gentle­ throat as ·long as you do it. I do not Mr. SLAUGHTER. I yield to the gen­ man from Indiana. quite know how to interpret that re­ tleman.· Mr. HALLECK. Would the gentleman mark. The amendment 'we are discuss­ Mr. HALLECK. The statement just make about the same statements con- Ing now goes to section 11 which is the made by the gentleman from New York, 940 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 of course, is one of those statements that Often the letters say it is not the work­ something should be done, that what he involves an opinion to which he has a ers, not the employees, but persons hired seeks to do is destroying the right of right, but it is so far-fetched that I am by radical strike leaders simply for the picketing. quite sure no one would be taken in by it. purpose of carrying on· the rough stuff. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Letters Now, I wonder if the gentleman from If you take out this injunction provi­ from all . over the country are telling New York would insist that in any action sion, you have no way of getting at tl:le about incidents , where force and vio­ that the Government .ever took it under­ hired racketeers on the pick£.t line. lence are used. Here is one from Ohio, took to .legalize assault and battery or There is no place for the hired thug by where r. small bakery man was set upon worse, or malicious trespass or destruc­ either side to an industrial dispute. by 12 men, his delivery truck upset and tion or seizure of property? · Now, as far as the suspension of the himself assaulted and beaten up, just Mr. SLAUGHTER. Of course, the Norris-LaGuardia Act is concerned, all because he was delivering the bread he answer to the situation is simple. I have we do is to suspend it to get a restraining had made, using ·his own truck. heard the question asked dozens of times, order on force and violence or threat I urge you to reject the pending in committee rooms and on the floor, of thereof. We believe their use is an un­ amendment; all we are asking is the numerous persons who purport to repre­ fair-labor practice. That same thing is authority to get restraining orders to sent labor, and I use the,word "purport" provided in the National Labor Relation~ protect innocent people from force and advisedly, as _to whether they condone Act. The National Labor Relations Act violence and threats of violence. force and violence, and they never give carries a section which suspends the Nor­ The CHAIRMAN. The· time of the you an otJJ;-and-out answer because the ris-LaGuardia Act .in exactly the same gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. only answer that decent people would ac­ language as we have here, if an employer CJ"-SE] has expired. cept is, "No." Instead, they beat around engages in unfair-labor practice. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Chair­ the bush and try to evade the issue. This I submit to you that when violence goes man, I rise in opposition to the amend­ section merely seeks to prevent these on as described in these letters coming ment. practices which no decent man or woman from. all over the country, then certainly Mr. Chairman, here is an amer!dment in this country can condone. innocent people who want to go back to with a great many words. It has just The CHAIRMAN. The time of the work are entitled to the protection of the been read once, and nobody knows what gentleman from Missouri has expired. law against fqrce and violence. , it does or what it purports to do, with Mr. . CASE of South Dakota. . Mr. Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, will . the exception of the gentleman from Chairman, I move to strike out the last the gentleman yield? . Michigan [Mr. HoFFMAN], who offered it. word. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. I yield. Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will Mr. Chairman; who is the true friend Mr. HALLECK. I want it understood the gentleman give me time to explain of labor-those who seek to eliminate that, in my opinion, this amendment it to him? force and violence, or those who take should be defeated. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. The gentle­ the position that labor can do no wrong? To my mind, the issue her~ is one of man had 5 minutes to explain it. This morning I received a letter from a whether or not we are going to do what Mr. HOFFMAN. Everybody seems to laboring man whose home is in Seattle, we can to maintain law and order. The be sa,tisfied but you. Wash. He Eays: amendment otherwise is objectionable Mr. SMITH of Virginia. I do not know I happen to be a veteran of World War!!­ because it seeks to get to the matter of of anybody who is satisfied. just returned-and a. member of the Elec­ people joining unions or not joining Now we have, as has been explained trical Engineers Union of Seattle, Wash. unions. I think that should not be in­ here, a provision against violence. There The head of our own union has written me jected ll.:!re. in answer to a letter I wrote him on this is not any person in this House who is subject, and he admits that the Wagner Act For the benefit of those who may not right thinking-- is all one-sided in labor's favor, and the have heard me the other day, the Civil Mr. BRADLEY of Pennsylvania. Mr. Smit h-Connally Act also. And that the Liberties Union came out with a state­ Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Norris-LaGuardia Act was a mistake, because ment that I would like to read to you, Ur. SMITH of Virginia. I do not yield. it prevents injunctions, and the leaders have becr.use I think it has an important bear­ There is no right-thinking person in no way of keeping the outlaws in line if em­ ing on this proposition.· The Civil Liber­ this House who will get up on this floor, ployers can't get injunctions against violent ties Union certainly has been in the fore­ pic:keting. I believe, and assert the right of labor front of those who have insisted upon unions or anybody else to hit sorilebcdy Something was said by the gentleman protection of the civil liberties of a citi­ over the head with a lead pipe because from Washington about hurting labor. zen. Yes, and some who get so vehement they want to approach and enter their Vvho is hurting labor today? Listen as in their opposition to some of these own premises. If there is I hope he will I read further from this letter: measures might well practice on these follow me and justify his opposition. My wife and I hear white-collar people occasions, their expressed devotion to I had expected assaults against cer­ everywhere, people who don't own businesses the protection of civil liberties. tain features o~ this bill from many or belong to labor unions, but are just work­ But no claims of the right to picket justify sources in the House, but I did not expect ers, and they are sick of strikes and sore as the use of force to prevent access to plants it to come from the gentleman from the devil at t he union leaders. I don't care on strike by those who are willing to cross where you go, you get it on all sides. They picket lines. Reports of current strikes show Michigan, who has been wailing in the know it's labor-union leadership that is tak­ instances in Which pickets have prevented wilderness for the correction of these ing the initiative in all these strikes, and access to plants by executive officers, by abuses. I can only say to him in the then trying to kid the public that they are maintem:nce crews keeping up such services words of Shakespeare: Thou, too, Brutus! being forced to strike. Yes, forced to hold as beat and lighting, and by clerical workers I hope the House will defeat his amend­ their big jobs. They ask me why I still be­ not members of the striking union. ment. long to any union, all my friends, and they · ust:d to be so sympathetic to labor. But they Then, there is this additional para- Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will hate all unions now. graph: · the gentleman yield? The gentleman These are plain abuses of the right of just thinks he is the only fellow who I have been getting a great deal of picketing. In the view of the American knows anything about it. correspondence, as you may imagine, but Civil Liberties Union, the right of access, Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, here is one from San Francisco, Calif: not only of these persons, but of any and I move to strike out the last word. I do hope your bill on labor situation will all others, is undebatable. The two righ"t~s- Mr. Chairman, an effort has been made come to a favorable vote as conditions are And I ask the gentleman from New here by the gentleman from Missouri very bad here on the Pacific c.oast. There [Mr. SLAUGHTER] the gentleman from is violence on the picltet line nearly ·every York [Mr. MARCANTONIO] to pay atten­ day. I enclose a set of pictures showing a tion to this- Virginia [Mr. SMITH], and the gentleman case. Also, st rikers follow home workers who The two rights-of picketing and of access from Indiana LMr. HALLECH:] to· make are only luke warm toward the strike, and to plares picketed-are not conflicting. the country beli~ve that the objective of throw creosot e stfuk bombs through their section 11 in the Case bill is to abolish home windows, and in several cases have I agree with that statement. I do not alleged violence in an industrial dispute. beat en up men who are not strong enough think it is a fair statement of the prob­ That is not the fact. The real objective for the strike. · lem to accuse anyone who thinks that of section 11 is to destroy the rights of 1946 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 941 labor, guaranteed by section 114 of the enumerate_d under section 114 of the Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, Norris-LaGuardia Act. . No amount of Norris-LaGuardia law. Here is the trick I ask unanimous consent _to proceed for smoke screen about violence can change in this bill, Mr. Chairman: Section 11 two additional minutes. these facts. You say that you seek to states that the court can enjoin against Mr. STEWART. Mr. Chairman, re­ prohibit violence, but in fact you .seek to violence in any manner in wnich it deems serving the right to object, will the gen~ enact strike-breaking laws. appropriate notwithstanding the Norris­ tleman yield to me? We are asked: Are we against violence? LaGuardia Anti-Injunction Act. This is Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, Of course, we are all against violence. It specifically stated on page ~2. line 20, of · I refuse to bargain. I have asked unani­ 1s just like asking somebody if he believes the Case bill. Do you get the trick in it? mous consent to proceed for 2 minutes. in beating his grandmother. Or do you not get it? You come here and I would not object to the gentleman if he What we are opposed to is the repeal­ tell us that you are against violence. asked for two additional minutes. ing of the guarantees set forth in section Well, the Norris-LaGuardia law provides The CHAIRMAN. Is there ob:iection 114 of the Norris-LaGuardia Anti-In­ for injunctions against violence. Then, to the request of the gentleman from New junction Act; guarantees of picketing, why section 11 ?- The answer. is clear. York? peacHul assembly, and so forth. The Your object is not to legislate against There was no objection. Norris-LaGuardia law specifically states violence, but to vitiate labor's rights to Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Chairman, that no cotirt of the United States shall conduct a strike, guaranteed under sec­ I say once again-and I cannot say it too have jurisdiction to issue any restraining tion 114 of the Norris-LaGuardia Act. often-get this straight-th~ Norris-La­ order or temporary or permanent in­ If not, why the following language in Guardia Anti-Injunction Act provides junction in any case involving or growing this section 11 of this bill, "Notwithstand­ that the courts can enjoin against out of any labor dispute, to prohibit any ing the act of March 23, 1932, entitled violence. It provides, though, the courts person or persons participatil}-g or inter­ ~An act to amend the Judicial Code and cannot enjoin against peaceful picket­ ested in such dispute from doing, whether to define and limit the jurisdiction of ing, against the right of assembly and singly or in concert, any of the following courts in equity, and for other pur­ against the right of advertising a strike. acts: poses.'., In section 11 of the Case bill, how­ The following are the acts which I This is the law commonly referred to ever, you say that the courts can en­ again shall put in the RECORD although I as the Norris-LaGuardia Act. join anything they want to as 1ong as the placed them in the RECORD last Friday: Yes; why thi~ language? If you do court deems it appropriate, notwith­ (a) Ceasing or refusing to perform. any not seek to repeal this Norris-LaGuardia standing the guaranties set forth in the work or to remain in any relation of em- law, if you are not trying to deprive labor Norris-LaGuardia Act. The Norris-La­ ployment; · of the rights established under this law, Guardia antiinjunction law gives the . (b) Becoming or remaining a member o1 if you are not attempting to pass a strike­ courts the power to enjoin against vio­ any labor organization or of ~ny employer breaking bill, why do you have the lan­ lence, limits the power. of the courts, so organizatio·n, regardless of any such under­ guage in section 11 of your bill, which that the courts cannot enjoin labor from taking or promise as 1s described in section specifically states that the courts can the exercise of certain rights. The Case 3 of this acti issue orders no-twithstanding the Norris­ (c) Paying or giving to, or withholding bill does not limit the courts and gives from, any person participating or interested LaGuardia Act? Why? Because in this them the power to enjoin labor from the in· such labor' dispute, any strike or unem­ period of industrial strife you seek to exercise of its legitimate rights. That is ployment benefits or insurance, or other take away every protection that labor has the difference between the Norris-La­ moneys or things of value; had and give every advantage to the cor­ Guardia law in section 11. One provides (d) By all lawful means aiding any person porations. You say you- are opposed to against violence and protects the legiti­ participating or interested in any labor dis­ violence. So are we. Violence is pro­ mate and lawful activities of labor: the pute who is being proceeded against in, or vided against in the existing Norris­ other provides against violence but leaves is prosecuting, any action or suit in any court LaGuardia law. We stand by that law. of the United States or of any State; labor without protection in carrying on (e) Giving publicity to the existence of, We are likewise against violence being its lawful and legitimate activities. or the facts involved in, any labor dispute, done to the sacred, fundamental, demo­ Therefore, do not tell us that you are whether by advertising, speaking, patrolling, cratic rights of the working people in here to enjoin vjolence. You have that ar by any other method not involving fraud these United States. Where do you stand in the existing 'a\\. What you are do­ or violence; on that? You stand by the language of ing with this bill is to enjoin against the (f) Assembling peaceably to act or to or­ your section 11 of your bill. right to strike and continuing that strike ganize to act in promotion of their interests Mr. SLAUGHTEF-. Mr. Chairman, in a peaceful manner. in a labor dispute; Mr. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Chairman, (g) Advising or "notifying any person of an will the gentleman yield? Intention to do any of the acts heretofore Mr. MARCANTONIO. Not at · this will the gentleman yield? specified; time. Mr. MARCANTONIO. I yield to the (h) Agreeing with other persons to do or Mr. . SLAUGHTER. I wanted to help gentleman from Missouri. not to do any of the acts heretofore specified; the gentleman. Mr. SLAUGHTEFt. I know the gentle­ and Mr. MARCANTONIO. The gentleman man wants to be fair. He has enumer­ (1) Advising, urging, or otherwise causing is supporting section 11. Maybe he has ated all of these things that the Norris­ or inducing witbout fraud or violence the changed his mind now, but I doubt it. LaGuardia Act does, but let me direct acts heretofore specified, regardless of any Mr. Chairman, again I repeat, section his attention to page 12 wherein the sec­ sUch undertaking or promise as is described in .section 3 of thi-s act. 11 states that the district courts of the tion provides, does it not, that it shall be I United States shall have jurisdiction not­ unlawful for any person (1) by use of Let me ask a question of the adroit withstanding the act of March 23, 1932, force and violence to prevent or attempt gentlemen who by this bill now attempt entitled "An act to amend the Judicial to prevent any individual from quitting to repeal these sacred provisions whether Code," and so forth. That is the Norris­ or continuing employment, and so forth. or not an injunction against violence can LaGuardia Anti-Injunction Act. Under Mr. MARCANTONIO. Yes. But why be obtained under the Norris-LaGuardia section 11 the court can enjoin violations do you specifically say in section 11, Act. Of course it can. The Norris­ and threatened violations of any of the notwithstanding the Norris-LaGuardia LaGuardia Anti-Injunction Act specifi­ provisions of the section by appropriate Anti-Injunction Act, and why do you give cally provides for injunction against order or decree. the court the power to issue any order violence. Under that law the court can Who decides what is appropriate? The which it deems appropriate? I will tell enjoin acts of violence and fraud, but it court. It is given the power, under the you why. Because you want to repeal the cannot enjoin certain specific legitimate pretext of enjoining against violence, to right to peaceful picketing. You want to activities which I have enumerated. enjoin .labor from doing any of the things repeal the right to ~ree press and peace­ Mr. GALLAGHER. Mr. Chairman, guaranteed under the Norris-LaGuardia ful assemblage. Do not talk of merely will the gentleman yield? Act, because section 11 states that the seeking to enjoin violence when you Mr. MARCANTONIO. Not at t.his court may issue any appropriate order speak of section 11. moment. notwithstanding the Norris-La.Guar.dia Mr. SLAUGHri'ER. Does the gentle­ Let us look at what section 11 does. law. man find all that in there? It gives the courts the power to enjoin The CHAmMAN. The time of the Mr. MARCANTONIO. Yes; a.nd the labor from exercising any of the rights .gentleman from New York has expired. language of section 11 tells the story• 942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 The difference between the gentleman Mr. HAYS. I yield to the gentleman ADAMS] and the . gentleman from Cali­ and me is that he favors section 11, which from South Dakota. fornia [Mr. VooRHIS], but conveys cer­ destroys labors rights, · and I favor the Mr. CASE of south Dakota. I wonder tain enforcement powers upon the Fed­ continuance of ·the Norris-LaGuardia if we might be advised by the Chair eral Board not found in the other meas­ Act, which provides for action against whether or not there are many amend­ ures. It m~y be possible to consider some violence and also protects labor in its ments at the desk pending on the Case of these provisions as amendments to lawful and legitimate endeavors . . You amendment. the pending substitute by the gentleman are trying to cripple organized labor, and The CHAIRMAN. There are 16 from New Hampshire. I do not submit I seek to protect it, when it is striking amendments pending. Two. of those are it necessarily as .a rival measure because for a living wage. to the Adams substitute. I am not sure I would be glad to see the Adams sub­ The CHAIRMAN. The time of the that all of them will be offered. stitute strengthened and adopted. gentleman from New Yorl{ has again Mr. CASE of South Dakota. I under­ Mr. cox. Mr. Chairman, will the expired. stand that there are several Members of gentleman yield? . Mr. GALLAGHER. Mr. Chairman, I the House who have an invitation to at­ Mr. HAYS·. I yield to the gentleman move to strike out the last two· words: tend the ·White House reception this af­ from Georgia. Mr. ·chairman, I . want to say as far as ternoon, in alphabetical series. That · Mr. COX. I am interested to knO\v if violence is concerned· that there are 48 applies to both sides of· the aisle. I think the gentleman is opposed to the Case States in this Union and every one of we ought to let those Members feel that bill? them has ·laws against violence. They they can go and attend the reception, - Mr. ·HAYS. ·I am in its present form, are enforced in most cases. Mr. Chair­ as much as I would like to proceed. yes. As indicated, the substitute which man, if strike legislation such as the Mr. COX. Mr. Chairman, will the gen­ I shall offer is H. R. 5367, and is avail-· Case bill proposes il> passed by-this House tleman yield? able in the Chamber. I hope tomorrow you will see an increase in the price of Mr. HAYS. I yield to the gentleman to have more to say in elaboration upon farm machinery of at least 50 percent; from Georgia. this proposal. .I -should like to point out Let some of these farmer supporters of Mr. COX. I am informed that .there however, that in-giving the Board power this legislation take note of tha.t. are several Members who have engage­ to invoke court action to prevent the · Mr. HALE. Mr. Chairman, I rise in ments for next Monday that will prob~ parties from violating duties imposed by: support of the amendment offered by the ably keep _them until Thursday. Would the act, lncfuding that of maintaining gentleman from Michigan. they be safe_in going ahead with those conditions pending exhaustion of settle.:: -Mr. Chairman, I think that if we con-. engagements? _ ment efforts, the bill makes the machin­ sider that amendment temperately and . . Mr. RANDOLPH. I think we can fin­ ery for peace as effective as possib,le: coolly we ..vill perceive that it essentially ish tomorrow. Violations of-·such duties, impose( by strengthens section 11. Let me point out . Mr. HAYS. Mr. Chairman, before I section 3 of th~ bill, by an employee; that it simply supersedes the first two ·yield further, may I say that my an­ · would deny such employee rights to re­ sentences of section 11. All the matter nouncement will be very brief, and I hope instatement under the-Wagner Act and in section 11 beginning on line 2 of page to . discourage a st!dden exodus if the should operate as a real . d-eterrent .to · 13 down to the end is preserved in the agreement to rise is reached. grievance strikes. The provisions relat­ Hoffman amendment. The Hoffman Mr. BENDER. Mr. Chairman, will the ing to the settlement of strikes over the amendment does strike from section 11 gentleman yield? application of existing contracts are the very dubious provision in the second .. Mr. HAYS. I yield to the gentleman particularly effective. sentence of that section in regard to the f:-om Ohio. • . Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. Chairman, I move Norris-LaGuardia Act. The gentleman Mr. BENDER. I understand the con­ that the Committee do now rise. from South Dakota has pointed out that ference report on the full employment The motion was agreed to. the Norris-LaGuardia Act is affected to bill will come up tomorrow. That will Accordingly the Committee rose; and some extent by the National _Labor Re­ take some time. Does the gentleman feel the Speaker having resumed the Chair, lations Act. I do . not think that any­ under those circumstances that we are ;Mr. O'NEAL, Chairman of the Committee body has made a sufiicient study of the going to be able to vote on this bill of the Whole House on the State of the Norris-LaGuardia Act 'to warrant re­ tomorrow? Union, reported that that Committee·; pealing it in any particular or limiting it Mr. RANDOLPH. Mr. Chairman, if having had under consideration the bill with respect to the s:ituation with which· the gentleman will yield, I have not been f 5.4 cents per pound profit, al­ marks in the Appendix. oi the REc.oBD. and THE OPA AND POULTJ!.Y S'l'ATIS'l'ICS· include a telegram. though his own statisticians a few The SPEAKER. Under previous order Mr. PHILLIPS. I thank the gentle­ months before had shown the profit to be of the House, the'gentleman from Cali­ man very much, because that is the in­ one-third of 1 cent. I put Mr. fornia [Mr. PHILLIPS] is recognized fo:r 1 formation am about to in the RE.c­ The s}Xlkesman for Bowles replied: hour. ORD. I .go back to a hearing held either The figure includes an casts. except the before the Committee on Agliculture or !a.rmet•s labor. lt includes any hired labor FURTHER EVIDENCE OF OPA INACCURACY before representatives of the poultry which he has a.nd any interest on his in­ Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Speaker, yester­ groups back in May· of this year. I took vestment. day afternoon on the floor of the ~ouse down the figures very carefully at that Please notice that last sentence par­ I gave certain information and certain time, and they indicated that the net ticularly. statistics in order to place before you and cost to the producer of poultry on the I then said to Mr. Bowles, jokingly, the Members of the House a. clear picture Pacific coast was approximately 1 cent "May I ask Mr. Bowles whether he now of the propaganda campaign whfch has per broiler. Now, a market broiler agrees or disagrees with me?" been carried on by the OPA in an effort weighs about 3. pounds; consequently, on Mr. P.A~CE then proceeded to say that to continue its own existence. I referred an average for the entire west coast, it · since there was a question revarding to the metllod, characterizing it as the meant that t:he profit for the poultry these poultry figures~ that we tak.e a. rep­ Hitler-Bowles method. MY. Speaker, in producer was one-third of 1 cent per resentative of the OPA, a. representative Ol!'der that I may place in the R!:CORI) the pound. of the Committee. on Agriculture, and a evidence that this propaganda campaign In order to arrive at that profit it i-epresentative of the Department of Ag­ is not confined exclusively to citrus, was necessary for the OPA to take. the riculture and that they analyze Mr. · which 1 used as an illustration yesterday, average of the cost of aU producers in - Bowles' statistics_ This was done. I wish to submit further data at this time the area. and, furthermore, to count in Before the committee adjourned,. how­ on poultry. the sales of various items which are ever. Mr. Bowles having already said, Mr. VOORHIS of California. Mr. produced incident to the production of through his spokesman. that they did Speaker, will the gentleman yiefd?' poultry,. including fertilizer. In other not include the labor oi the farmer but · Mr. P!ULLIPS. I yield to the genUe­ words, it was a very rare producer, on they did include hired labor~ MJ.·. Bowles ,man from California. the average, who could have made even was again asked by the. gentleman from Mr. VOORHIS of California. I listened one-tllird of one cent. Californ)a. [Ml'. VOORHIS], "Does it in­ to the gentleman yeste:rrday.. I am not · These were the OPA's own figures. clude hired labor?" The spokesman said sure I agree witb the gentleman about There was no question of them at the that it included .hired labor. There was motives.,. but. I do agree with the gentle­ time. So when the surplus eame in the immediately a little whispered consulta­ man tha· th~e selection of the time for the poultry industry. and recalJing Mr. tion·am.ong representatives of the OPA. removal of ceilings on citrus fruit and Bowles" own statement, which r placed The' spokesman then said: the' period during whi:eh those eellings in the RECORD yesterday, that he in­ No; it. does :not include hired labor; 1 am were removed could not have been better tended to take the ceiling otf just as wrong about that. · chosen, if it had been desired, to. try to soon as any item was in surplus. and indicate that the removal of ceilings that he intended to do it a little too soon Let me call to your attention, there­ would be an impractical pr~position. I rather than a little too, late-when that fore, Mr. Speaker, that these figures, pre­ sented as net profit to the farmer, by the feel as the gentleman does~ I believe, that surplus iii poultry came about and noth­ had the ceilings either been removed ing happened, and the ceilings were not OPA to the Committee on Agriculture much earlier or had they been kept off taken oft', the Committee on Agriculture, of the House of Representatives were for a longer period, we wourd have seen through a subcommittee, of which the inaccurate in that they did not inciude much different results from the removal gentleman from Georgia [Mr. PACE] was the farmer's labor, the labor of a_ny mem­ of ceilings on citrus fruit. . chairman, called representatives of the ber of the farmer's family~ any hil~ed labor that. he may have had to pay for; Mr. PHILLIPS. 1 thank the gentle­ OPA to the committee room and asked man very much. them, "Why not?" ' · nor did it include any interest on his I wish t(} read, therefore, one or two of investment. May I ask the gentleman if he does Mr. Speaker, that is so obviously a de­ not agree with me that when the ceil­ the comments made at that meetmg. Mr. Bowles was present. in person. A liberate misrepresentation that I know ings were removed in November that the no other word by which to designate it. OPA in a press :release at that time said statement was read for him, because of a slight throat condition that made it im- · Again. I classify it as the Bitler-Bowles they would be left of! for 6Q days? method of propaganda. to secure for the Mr. VOORHIS ot·califomia. I do not possible for him to read it himself. It was read by Mr. Timm. After the OPA a sort of good will-on the part of the quite agree with the gentleman on that. housewives o.f America, wbo do not un­ I think they said ' they would he sus­ statement was read, I quote from the transeFipt: derstand tbat by this method their prices pended for a period of not to exceed 60 have been .kept tlP on any commodity days. But I do not trunk they were pre­ Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Chairman, it. is a known fact that the. O.PA's :figures are inaccurate. in surplus, rather than kept down. cluded from putting them back on in the And, so, Mr. Speaker, finally 1 sho.uld , meantime if they could get an agreement Mr. Bowles said: like to submit and have printed m the fl'om Judge Collett's office to do so. Excuse me !of disagreeing, Mr. _PHILLIPS. R~:coRD a letter from the ehai:rman of Mr. PHILLIPS. I also would ask the that subcommittee, the gent}eman from Mr. PACE said: gentleman, who is very familiar with the Georgia. !:Mr. PAcE.]~ a distinguishe~ citrus subject. representing a · citrus­ I am sure the figures will be checked, and I am quite sure that Mr:Bowies has checked member of the Committee on. Agricul­ growing district~ and being a member of them. t'ure.. · wbich be wrote to Mr. Ch~ster the Committee on Agliiculture, when he Bowles: on De€emba 4 as a . .result. 0f the 1,inds t.his s~tuation to- exist with citrus, Now, let us see~ · The gentleman·from report made to him by this examiniJlg a:nd then finds. similar inaccuracies in California [Mr. VOORHIS'] r WDO just. con­ co-mmittee of three to which l have al­ the figures with reiation to poultry, and tributed to 'what r am now saying on the ready referred. I quote the letter in full: similar inaccuracies a& regards other tfoor, ·said: ·. · · D:mAa MR. BOWLES.: You will :recall. that on commodities, does he still think it is ~11 I would like· j;o· ask·one 'sj:Jecftlc)iuestron. 'November 14 you appeared before and made accidental? · · I :want to ask whether tlie· figures shown in a statement to the Hous~ Committee on 944 CONG~RESSIONAL RECORD-- HOUSE FEBRUARY 5 Agriculture with reference to the poultry sit­ personnel on the last day of each fiscal year, geographic scope; to the Committee on Mines uation and the advisability of suspending and for other purposes; and Mining. ceiling prices. S. 1545. An act to amend article 38 of the 1037. A letter from the Attorney General, You will also recall that several membe-rs Articles for the Government of the Navy; transmitting a report showing the special of the committee questioned the figures you and assistants employed during the per'iod from used as the basis for your argument and it S.1631. An act to provide for the payment ' July 1 to December 31, 1945, under the ap­ was agreed that the committee's attorney, a on a commuted basis of the costs of trans­ propriation "Compensation of special at­ reJ?resentative from your office, and a repre­ portation of dependents of certain persons torneys, etc., Department of Justice"; to the sentative from the Department of Agricul­ entitled to such transportation, and for other· Committee on Expenditures in the Execu­ ture would ma·ke an analysis and report on purposes. · tive Departments. your statement. ADJOURNMENT 1038. A letter from the Secretary of State, 1 enclose herewith a copy of the analysis transmitting a draft of a proposed bill to of your statement and I am WC)ndering if Mr. HAVENNER. Mr. Speaker, I amend section 540 of title 10 and section 441 you will not agree that your statement was move that the House do now adjourn. (a) of title 34 of the United States Code misleading, not authorized by the facts, and The motion was agreed to; thereppon providing for the detail of United States goes a long way in justifying a statement (at 5 o'clock and 8 minutes p. m.> the military and naval mfssions to foreign gov- made to you in the meeting by Congressman House adjourned until - tomorrow, - ernments; to the Committee on Military JoHN PHILLIPS to the ge:.~eral effect that Affairs. Members of Congress cannot rely upon the Wednesday, February 6, 1946, at 12 . 1039. A letter from the Administrator, figures issued by the Office of Price Admin­ o'clock noon. Federal Works Agency, transmitting the sixth istration. annual report of the Federal Works Agency Sincerely yours, COMl\UTTEE HEARINGS for the fiscal year ended June 30, 1945; to STEPHEN PACE, the · Committee on Public Buildings and Member ot Congress. COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY Grounds. BANKING AND CURRENCY COMMITTEE SHOULD Subcommittee No. 1 of the Committee EXAMINE (,PA FIGURES on the Judiciary has postponed until PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Thursday, February 7, 1946, the hearing Mr. Speaker, I bring this to the floor Under clause 3 of rule XXII, public today for two reasons: First, that it may originally scheduled for Wednesday, February 6, 1946, on the bill, H. R. 5089, bills and resolutions were introduced be apparent to the Members of Congress and severally referred as follows: · that this is not alone a problem of the to amend the First War Powers Act, 1941. citrus industry, but that it affects all the The hearing' will begin at 10 a. m., and B} Mr. BUNKER: will be held in the Judiciary Committee H. R. 5377. A b111 to provide for permanent figures, all the statistics, all the charts, preservation as historic relics of the silver and all the booklets put out by the OPA room, 346 House Office Building. service, ship's bell, and name plate from the for the benefit of the trusting housewives COMMITTEE ON INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN battleship U.S. S. Nevada,· to the Committee of America; and, second, because begin­ COMMERCE, on Naval Affairs. ning I thought today, but apparently be­ There will be a meeting of the Secu- - By Mr. DE LACY: ginning Thursday, the Committee on rities Subcommittee of the Committee on H. R. 5378. A bill to authorize the disposal Banking and Currency will begin to hear · agencies under the Surplus Property Act of Interstate. and Foreign Commerce at 2 1944 to lend or donate surplus camping the OPA, and its first witness will be p. m. on Thursday, February 7;1946, to equipment to the Boy Scouts of America and Mr. Bowles himself. He will without continue hearings in its study of op­ other organizations; to the Committee on question present some very beautiful erations pursuant to the Public Utility Ezpenditures in the Executive Departments. charts and some very beautiful figures. Holding Company Act of 1935, in room By Mr. GIBSON: My hope is that the Committee on Bank­ 1304, House Office Building. H. R. 5379. A bill to amend section 800 (b) ing and Currency will do what the Com­ COMMITTEE ON THE CENSUS of the Servicemen's Readjustment Act of mittee on Agriculture did, appoint 1944; to the Committee on World War Vet­ examiners to examine the figures pre- The Committee on the Census will hold erans' Legislation,. hearings on H. R. 4781 on Thursday By Mr. KEOGH: sented by the OPA. ' morning, February 7, at 10 o'clock, . in H. R. 5380. A blll to provide for the con­ I yield back the balance of my time. room 1012. ferring of the degree of bachelor of science PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE upon graduates of the United States Mer­ THE COMMITTEE ON THE MERCHANT MARINE AND FISHERIES chant Marine Academy; to the Committee Mr. PHILLIPS. Mr. Speaker, I yield on the Merchant Marine and Fisheries. back· the balance of my time, after mak­ The Committee on the Merchant Ma­ By Mr. MERROW: ing the request that I may have a reser­ rine and F~sheries will hold open. hear- H. R. 5381. A bill to provide Members of vation to address the House for 30 ·ings Thursday, February 7, and Friday, the House of Representatives, Delegates, and minutes on Monday next following the February 8, at 10:30 a. m. on the bills Resident Commissioners in Congress with special orders heretofore entered for R. 2346, 2180, 2449, additional copies of the daily edition of the H. H. R. H. R. and CONGRESSIONAL RECORD; to the Committee on that day. H. R. 3500. Printing. The SPEAKER. Is there objection By Mr. PETERSON of Florida: to the request of the gentleman from EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, ETC. H. R. 5382. A bill to establish and maintain California? in the General Land Office a record of title There was no objection. Under clause· 2 of rule XXIV, execu­ to all lands held by the Federal Government; tive communications were taken from to the Committee on the Public Lands. SENATE ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED the Speaker's table and referred as fol­ By Mr. BARRY: The SPEAKER announced his signa­ lows: H. R. 5383. A bill authorizing the construc­ tion of a new hospital and diagnostic center ture to enrolled bills of the Senate of the .. 1034. A communication from the President following titles_; in the county of Queens, city and State of of the United States, transmitting estimates New York; to the Committee on World War S.102. An act to amend section 2. (b) of of appropriation amounting to $1,144,000 and Veterans' Legislation. the act entitled "An act extending the classi­ an increase in a limitation for the Depart­ By Mr. CAMPBELL: fied executive civil service of the United ment of Agriculture for the fiscal year 1947, H. R. 5384. A bill granting the consent of States," approved November 26, 194u, so as in the form of amendments to the Budget Congress to the Commonwealth of Pennsyl­ to provide for counting military service of for said fiscal year (H. Doc. No. 452); to vania to construct, maintain, and operate a certain employees of the legislative branch the Committee on Appropriations and or­ free highway bridge across the M:monga­ in determining the eligibility of such em­ dered to be printed. hela River, at a point between the boroughs ployees for civil-service status under such 1035. A letter from the Administrator, Sur­ of Elizabeth, in Elizabeth Township, and act; plus Property Administration, transmitting West Elizabeth, in Jefferson Township, in , S. 765. An act concerning the establish- a report on shipyards and facilities; to the the county of Allegheny, and in the Com­ • ment of meteorological observation stations Committee on Expenditures in the Execu­ monwealth of Pennsylvania; to the Commit­ in the Arctic regions of the Western Hemi­ tive Departments. tee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. sphere, for the purpose of improving the 1036. A letter from the Secretary of the H. R. 5385. A bill granting the consent of '\\-.!ather forecasting service within the United Interior, transmitting a draft of a proposed Congress to the Commonwealth of Pennsyl­ States and on the civil inter"'lational air bill to reenact and amend the organic act vania to construct, maintain, and operate a transport routes from the United States; of the United States Geological Survey by free highway bridge across the Monongahela 17 S. 146 • An act to provide for adjustment incorporating therein substantive provisions River, at a point between the boroughs of between the proper appropriations of the confirming the exercise of long-continued Belle Vernon, in Washingtcn Town.:>llip, Fay­ unpaid balances in the pay accounts of naval duties and functions and by redefining their ette ??'.mty, and ~p~ers, in F~llowfield Town- 1946 .CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE 945 ship, Washington County, and in the Com­ By Mr. IZAC: scious that in the rough and rushing monwealth of Pennsylvania; to. the Commit­ H. R. 5394. A bill for the relief of San world there is upon us constantly the tee on I1 erstate anrt Foreign Commerce. Diego Gas & Electric Co.; to the Committee By Mr. CORBETT: on Claims. · hot breath of malice and envy, of evil H. R. 5386. A bill to _provide for the con­ H. R. 5395. A bill for the relief of Leonard tempers and thoughts, in this quiet struction of a bridge across the Monongahela C. Clark and Elizabeth Clark; to the Com­ mom:mt of devotion, breathe on us, River; to the Committee on Interstate and mittee on Claims. breath of God, fanning to flame our Foreign .Commerce. H. R. 53Q6. A bill for the relief of Carl L. smoldering faith· that the dross which H. R. 5387. A bill to provide for the con­ Rosso and Josephine A. Rosso; to the Com­ weights the wings of our spirits may be struction of a bridge across the Monongahela mittee on Claims. consumed. · River; to the Committee on Interstate and H. R . 5397. A bill for the relief of Nels L. Foreign Commerce Olson; to the Committee on Claims. As those into whose unworthy hands By Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma: By Mr. MALONEY: has been placed the crying needs of H. R. 5388. A bill authorizing the transpoli­ H. R. 5398. A bill for the relief of Walter stricken humanity, may the thoughts of tation of the wives and children of enlisted J. Barnes Electric Co. and Maritime Electric our minds and the sympathies of our men of the Army or the Army of the United Co., Inc.; to the Committee on Claims. hearts, the words of our lips, and the States of all grades to the stations· without By Mrs. ROGERS bf Massachusetts: decisions of our deliberations be accept­ the continental limits of the United States H. R. 5399. A bill for the relief of Sarkis able in Thy sight, 0 Lord, our strength of their husbands; to the Committee on Mili- Mugrdichian; to the Committee on Claims. tary Affairs. ' . • and our Redeemer. Amen. · By Mr. WOLCOTT: PETITIONS, ETC. MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT H. R. 5389. A bill .to amend the National Housing Act by adding thereto a new title Under clause 1 of rule XXII, petitions A message in writing from the Presi­ to provide for a housing expediter and to and papers were laid on the Clerk's desk dent of the United States was communi­ define his powers, providing for the alloca­ and referred as follows: cated to the Senate by Mr. Miller, one tion of building materials for the construc­ of his secretaries. tion of homes, providing for preference to 1522. By· Mr; CASE of South Dakota: Peti­ MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE veterans of World War II in the purchase or tion of Mrs. G. S. Gunderson, president, rental of housing accommodations, and for -Lutheran Ladies Aid, Baltic, S. Dak., and 41 A message from the House of Repre­ other purposes; to the Commit~ee on Bank­ other signers, urging enactment of "legisla­ tion to prohibit advertising of alcoholic bev­ sentatives, by Mr. Maurer, one of its ing and Currency reading clerks, announced that the House By Mr. MERROW: . erages by radio and interstate transmission H. Res. 507. Resolution to amend clause 4 . of periodicals con tairiirig .alcoholic-beverage had passed without amend.ment the fol­ of rule XXVII of the Rules of the House; to advertisements; to the Committee on the lowing bills of the Senate: the Committee on Rules. · Judiciary. S. 480. An act to authorize the sale of the By Mr. JARMAN! · 1521. Also, petition of Mrs. Olaf Brende, allotment of Henry Keiser on the Crow In­ H. Res. 508. Resolution authorizing the of Garretson, S. Oak., and 20 other signers, .dian Reservation, Mont.; printing as a public document of a revised urging enactment of legislation to prohibit S. 815. An act for the relief of Ogden & · edition of HGuse Document .No. 228, Seventy­ advertising of alcol;lOlic beverages by radio Dougherty, and for other purposes; ninth Congress, first session,, entitled "Our or .interstate transmission of periodicals con·­ 8. 831. An act for the relief of James Alves _AmeripaJ ,Government: What Is It? How taining alcoholic-beverage advertisements; Saucier; :, ;noes It Function?"; to the Committee on to ·the Committee on the Judiciary. S. 845. Ari act for the relief of Mabel •(; Printing. : ·1524. By Mr. SHORT: Petition at· Charlie Fowler; _ . Cllastain and other citizens of Stone County, -' 8. 905. An act for the ·relief of . Harold E. Mo .. urging the passage of the Poage bill or MEMORIALS Bullock; H. R. 1742; to the Committee on Interstate · S. 991. An act for the relief of Mr. and Under clause 3 of rule XXII, memorials and Foreign Commerce. Mrs. Marion M. Hill; . were presented and referred as follows: 1525. Also, petition of J. B. Manka and S. 11)77. An act for the relief of Oscar 8. other citizens of Lawrence County, Mo., urg­ By the SPEAKER: Memorial of the Legis­ Reed; ing the passage of the H. R. 1742 or the Poage S. 1081. An act for · the relief of Aftab lature.of the State of California, memorializ­ bill; to the Committee on Interstate and ing the President and the Congress of the Ali; Foreign Commerce. S .. 1142. An act for the relief of Florence United States and certain Federal govern­ 1526. By the SPEAKER: Petition of the mental departments to·take steps to alleviate .Barrows; M~nnes6ta District of the Evangelical Luth­ S. 1158. An act for the relief of Winter the shortage of buildings and office space in eran Synod, Pt!titioning consideration of California cities for veterans of World War II Bros. Co:-; engaged in business and professions; to the their resolution with reference to the Presi­ S.1231. An act- for the relief ·of Paul E. Committee on World War Veterans' Legisla­ dent and Congress of the United States to ·Tacy: take the necessary steps so that the services tion. S. 1294. An act for the relief of Mr. and .. Also, memorial of the Legislature of the · of ' UNRRA be ·extended to include' all the Mrs Allan F. Walker; State of South Carolina, memonalizing the needy people in the occupied terrifories; to S. 1296. An act for the relief of John A. President and the Congress of the United the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Hatcher; . States to dil'lc ...1tinue the practice of the Fair 1527. Also, petition' of the board of direc­ S. 1323. An act for the relief of the estate Employment Practice Commission; to the tors, tpe Texas Cotton Association, petition­ of William Carl Jones: . · Committee on Labor. ing consideration of their resolutiC?n with S. 1338. An act for the relief of the legal Also, memorial of the Legislature of the reference to the pending loan to Great guardian of Wayne Edward Wilson, a minor; State of Kentucky, memorializing the Presi­ Britain; to the Committee on Banking and · S. 1360 An act to compensate Benali El dent ilnd the Congress of the United States Currency. Oukill Boucheta, an inhabitant of French to establish a floor price for tobacco; to the 1528 Also, petition of the Fifty-fourth Morocco, for the wrongful death of his son Committee oil Banking and Currency. Assembly District Democratic Club, petition­ .Mohamed Ben Boucheta Ben Ali El Oukili, ing consideration of their resolution with nea;· Marnia, Algeria, on September 30, 1944; reference to Congress continuing price con- S. 1361. An act to compensate Clement PRIVA~ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS . trol tor a period not less than 2 years; to the Euziere, an inhabitant of French Morocco, Under c~ause i of rule XXII, private Committee on Banking and Currency. for personal injuries caused by a naval ve­ bills and resolutions were introduced and hicle near Oran, Algeria, on September 21, severally referred as follows: · 1943; . S. 1448. An act for the relief of William By Mr. BUCK: SENATE Wilson Wurster; and . H. R. 5390 . . A bill to suspend deportation S. 1590. An act to authorize the President · of Domenico Marrazzo and record his admis­ VVEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1946 to appoint Graves Blanchard· Erskine, major . sian for permanent residence; to the Com­ general, United States Marine Corps, to the mittee on Immigration and Naturalization. office of Retraining and Reemployment Ad­ By Mr. CASE of New Jersey: