E PL UR UM IB N U U S Congressional Record United States th of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 104 CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION

Vol. 142 WASHINGTON, TUESDAY, JANUARY 30, 1996 No. 12 Senate The Senate met at 11 a.m., and was Wednesday with the expectation that Mr. MURKOWSKI. Mr. President, I called to order by the President pro the session will be largely devoted to ask unanimous consent that the order tempore [Mr. THURMOND]. morning business, and rollcall votes for the quorum call be rescinded. would not be anticipated on Wednes- The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without PRAYER day. objection, it is so ordered. The Chaplain, Dr. Lloyd John Senators should be aware that on If the Senator from Alaska will with- Ogilvie, offered the following prayer: Thursday the Senate will be attending hold for a moment? Dear God, we say with the author of a joint meeting of Congress starting at Mr. MURKOWSKI. Certainly. Hebrews, ‘‘This hope we have as an an- 11:45 a.m. to hear an address by French chor of the soul.’’—Hebrews 6:19. President Jacques Chirac. Following f Thank You for the anchor of hope in that joint meeting, the Senate is ex- You we have for the storms of life. We pected to debate and vote on cloture on lower our anchor and it holds in the or in relation to the Lugar-Dole farm RESERVATION OF LEADER TIME bedrock of Your faithfulness in spite of bill. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the billows of adversity and the blasts Additional votes could occur during the previous order, the leadership time of conflict. We can ride out the storms the day on Thursday, and even possibly is reserved. of difficulties and discouragement be- on Friday. As we get additional agree- cause we know You will sustain us. We ments or information on that, we will f share the psalmist’s confidence, ‘‘I wait advise the Members. for the Lord, my soul waits, and in His f word I do hope. For in You, O Lord, I MORNING BUSINESS MEASURE READ THE SECOND hope; You will hear, O Lord my God.’’— The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under TIME—S. 1541 Psalms 130:5, 38:15. the previous order, there will now be a Our hope is not in the reliability of Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I under- period for the transaction of morning people, the predictability of cir- stand there is a bill on the calendar business until the hour of 1 p.m., with cumstances, or the security of human that is due for its second reading, the time equally divided between the power. Our hope is in Your grace and which is the farm bill. two leaders. truth. You will neither leave nor for- The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The The Senator from Alaska. sake us. Keep us anchored today so we Senator is correct. may not drift from our commitment to The clerk will read the bill for the serve You. We claim Your destiny for second time. f our Nation. Throughout this day may The assistant legislative clerk read we feel the tug of the anchor and know as follows: ’S DECISION TO CHANGE that we are secure. In the name of our A bill (S. 1541) to extend, reform, and im- NAMES Lord. Amen. prove agricultural commodity, trade, con- Mr. MURKOWSKI. Mr. President, I servation, and other programs, and for other f am a bit of a railroad buff, and there purposes. have been some recent changes relative RECOGNITION OF THE ACTING Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I object to to the operation of Amtrak that I MAJORITY LEADER further consideration of this matter at would like to bring to the attention of The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The this time. my colleagues this morning. able acting majority leader, Senator The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. I think it is fair to say that it is im- LOTT, is recognized. INHOFE). Objection having been heard, portant that we consider our tradi- f the bill will be placed on the calendar. Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, there will tions, and how our traditions have SCHEDULE probably be some action that will be really brought us together as a nation Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, today suggested or offered with regard to the and preserved the fabric of our culture. there will be a period for morning busi- farm bill in a few minutes. It has been 30 years ago that we ness until the hour of 1 p.m., with the At this time, I suggest the absence of switched our telephones from exchange time equally divided between the two a quorum. names to all-digit dialing. I think it is parties. No rollcall votes are expected The PRESIDING OFFICER. The fair to say that while it increased the during the day today. clerk will call the roll. efficiency, it lost some of its person- For the information of all Senators, The assistant legislative clerk pro- ality. I recall we had Black 789, White the Senate is expected to reconvene on ceeded to call the roll. 243, Green 910. We had an operator who

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But to suggest that sadness the decision of Amtrak to stop that Amtrak has decided to stop using the we are currently paying an effective using the historical and traditional traditional names for train service in the rate of somewhere between 5 or 6 or 6.5, names for train service in the North- . In conversations with or thereabout—the fact is that interest east corridor. Last week, the Wall Amtrak officials, my staff has confirmed rates could rise as they have in the Street Journal reported that Amtrak that Amtrak has decided that the ‘‘Yankee past, which would have a disastrous ef- Clipper,’’ ‘‘The Mohawk,’’ ‘‘Mayflower,’’ had decided that, for the Yankee Clip- fect on the economic vitality of this ‘‘Connecticut Yankee,’’ the overnight to Bos- Nation. per, along with the train called the Mo- ton, ‘‘The Night Owl,’’ and nearly all the hawk, the train called the Mayflower, So, if we look at the accumulated others, will no longer be used. debt that we are carrying, the $4.9 tril- the train called the Connecticut It appears that nearly all of Amtrak’s lion, recognizing that each year we Yankee, the overnight train to , Northeast corridor will be referred to spend more than we generate in reve- the Night Owl, and nearly all the other as ‘‘Northeast Direct’’ followed by a number nues, and add to that, we are faced traditional names will no longer be such as 142 or 147. Quite frankly, I cannot un- derstand this decision. with the reality that within a rel- used. In their place, nearly all of Am- A spokeswoman for Amtrak was quoted as atively short period of time we are trak’s Northeast corridor trains will be saying that these names were colorful, but going to have to increase that the debt referred to as the Northeast Direct, fol- not helpful. According to this spokeswoman, ceiling. We are going to have to in- lowed by a number such as 142, 147, 148. ‘‘if you hear ‘the Catskill,’ it doesn’t really crease that authorization somewhere, I really cannot understand this deci- tell you where you’re going.’’ That may be we are told, of up to $5.3, or $5.4, or $5.5, sion because I cannot see where it nec- true. But certainly, Northeast Direct 147 tells travelers even less. At least, the Con- or $5.6 trillion for a term of perhaps 18 essarily affects the efficiency or serv- months, and then we are going to have ice to the public. necticut Yankee suggests the train is headed to New England. Northeast Direct 147 tells to do it again. A spokeswoman for Amtrak was you nothing. So my point is we are continuing to quoted as saying these names are a Mr. Downs, I urge you immediately recon- increase the indebtedness of this Na- colorful part of the past but really not sider this decision. These names are part of tion. I am told that for a person being helpful today. According to the spokes- tradition. And it is a tradition that is par- born today, his or her share of the debt woman, ‘‘If you hear ‘the Catskill,’ it tially a public trust. It is nearly equivalent is somewhere in the area of $150,000, to doesn’t really tell you where you’re to having the Interior Department redesig- $175,000. That is going to increase un- going,’’ and that may be true, but cer- nate Yellowstone and Yosemite National less we do something drastic and turn Parks as Western Parks 1 and 2. tainly the Northeast Direct 147 tells As you know, since 1971, Amtrak has re- it around. travelers even less. At least the Con- ceived $13 billion in federal funding to help We have been talking for a long time necticut Yankee suggests the train is cover its operating capital and labor costs. about a balanced budget. Everybody, headed to New England; the Northeast Legislation that is currently on the Senate including the White House, supports a Direct 147 really tells you nothing. You calendar (S. 1395) would establish an Inter- balanced budget, a mandatory balanced do not know where it is headed. city Passenger Rail Trust Fund, the lion’s budget, a process that will get us there. Mr. President, yesterday I wrote to share of whose funds would go to Amtrak. And we have talked about a 7-year as- The proposal calls for Amtrak to receive the president of Amtrak, Mr. Tom cension. We have had, I think, five pro- more than $2 billion over the next four years. posals from the administration. The Downs, and urged Amtrak to recon- I believe Amtrak has made a mistake and sider this decision. Again, I appeal to I believe you ought to fix it immediately. first one did not get one vote in the Amtrak in the sense that these are Thank you for your immediate attention U.S. Senate. The last one really makes names that are part of the American to this matter. the lion’s share of the cuts in the sixth heritage. I think it is a heritage and Sincerely, and seventh years. That is pretty hard tradition that is partially a public FRANK MURKOWSKI, to accept because we know that Con- trust, if you will. Unilaterally deciding U.S. Senator. gress is not going to have the self-dis- to change these names, I guess, would f cipline in 6 or 7 years to make those be equivalent, perhaps, to having the INCREASE IN THE DEBT CEILING draconian cuts. We know that Presi- Interior Department redesignate Yel- dent Clinton, even if he were to be re- Mr. MURKOWSKI. Mr. President, I elected is not going to be in office in lowstone and Yosemite National Parks would like to talk briefly about an- as Western Park 1, Western Park 2, and 2001 and 2002 when reality will hit. other matter that this body is going to So we are going into this period of perhaps Acadia National Park as East- be asked to address in the very near fu- ern Park 4. debate on increasing the debt from $4.9 ture, and that is to increase the debt trillion at a time when we are adding Since 1971, Amtrak has received ceiling. $165 billion in deficits each year, and about $13 billion in Federal funding to As the President and my colleagues we do not have a way out. When I say help cover its operating and labor know, the authorization to issue debt ‘‘a way out,’’ we do not have a commit- costs. Legislation which is currently is limited with a cap. And that cap is ment to a real balanced budget in 7 on the Senate calendar, S. 1395, would $4.9 trillion. It is a debt so inconceiv- years because the last proposal by the establish an intercity passenger rail able that no one can comprehend how White House was not real. The press trust fund. The lion’s share of whose large $4.9 trillion is. and the public do not seem to accept funds would go to Amtrak. The pro- Currently, Mr. President, we are that it was not real in terms of all the posal calls for Amtrak to receive more looking in the fiscal year just ended at cuts in the sixth or seventh year as op- than $2 billion over the next 4 years. a deficit of about $165 billion. That is a posed to proportional reductions in In my opinion, Amtrak has made a significant figure. But we cannot stop each of the 7 years. mistake in changing the names of the there because there is a further appli- It is like taking medicine, Mr. Presi- historic trains of the Northeast cor- cation of interest, and the interest cost dent. You have to take it anyway. If ridor by replacing them with numbers. on the $4.9 trillion is about $235 billion. you take it up front and get it over I urge Amtrak to reverse this decision. And it should be noted that currently with through the process, why, hope- Mr. President, I ask unanimous con- interest rates are relatively low. The fully, you can reach a cure. If you have sent that a copy of the letter which I effective rate of interest is probably to take it when you get too sick, some- sent to Amtrak’s president be printed somewhere in the area of 5.5 to 6.5 per- times it might not cure you. in the RECORD. cent on this $4.9 trillion. Furthermore, I think it is fair to say There being no objection, the letter Back in December 1980, the prime that during the extended debate to try was ordered to be printed in the rate in the United States was 20.5 per- to reach a balanced budget, the Repub- RECORD, as follows: cent. One can only visualize what the licans were blamed for shutting down

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