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June 2019 a Journal of Transport Timetable History and Analysis The Times June 2019 A journal of transport timetable history and analysis RRP $4.95 Inside: Blue Poles on the NESG Incl. GST Australian PTTs Part 3 NOTE Q—too many stations George Bush Funeral Train timetable The Times A journal of the Australian Timetable Association Inc. (A0043673H) Print Publication No: 349069/00070, ISSN 0813-6327 June 2019 Vol 36 No. 06, Issue No. 425 The Times welcomes all contributions. Our Authors’ Guide is available on our web-site at https://www.timetable.org.au/ Reproduction Provided a Creative Commons acknowledgement is made, material appearing in The Times may be reproduced anywhere. Disclaimer Opinions expressed in our magazines are not necessarily those of the Association or its members. Editor Geoff Lambert 179 Sydney Rd FAIRLIGHT 2094 NSW email: [email protected] The Times is posted in full colour to our website https://www.timetable.org.au/times.html, two months after publication in paper and to the National Library website 6 months after publication. Colour PDF versions of previous issues of our magazines are at http://www.austta.org.au —Contents— Derek Scrafton CARDINGTON—LETTER TO THE EDITOR 2 Gnomes Group S.A.M.– SCIENCE, ART OR MUDDLE IN THE TIMETABLE WORLD? 3 Victor Isaacs PTTs– NSW PART 3 6 James T Wells NOTE Q—TOO MANY STATIONS 10 Katie Mettler GEORGE BUSH FUNERAL TRAIN 13 Dear Editor Geoff, I enjoyed your article on the airships and Cardington. The enclosed is to show the style in which the rich passengers might have arrived at the station: preserved Highland Railway No. 103 on a filming assignment at Cardington in 1964. The potential of airships will not go away: the University of Manitoba teams with industry to demonstrate the potential use of airships to serve remote locations in the Canadian arctic. - Derek Scrafton 2 The Times June 2019 Timetabling—Science, Art or Muddle? A debate between The Gnomes of Dulwich N OUR COMPANION MAGAZINE, from Seymour an on time result is Table Talk, last month, under the notionally possible), but the bugger I heading of “The Vagaries of factor in this is train running delays en 8620”, Max Michell and Victor Isaacs route (mainly crossing but wrote about some current timetabling occasionally work on track—rare as it issues on ARTC’s North East Standard seems—are the normal offenders). Gauge (NESG) line in Victoria. The Over the survey period the TSRs have Times has had access to ATA’s regularly changed with odd spots of version of the Watergate Tapes, in remediation being overcome by which these issues were discussed on a development of other problem areas. Railway Social Media Site—The Two recent events - the 7 km long 60 Gnomes of Dulwich. The Gnomes km/h TSR through Seymour and a 40 usually refer to one another as “Gs”. km/h over the Maribyrnong River The tapes seem to contain some 18 bridge are both contributing an impost minutes of silence, but are of around 7 - 8 minutes over and nevertheless a good indicator of what above the heritage TSRs on the line. goes on in groups like this. The In fact since Oct 2018 there has not Conversations were recorded at the been a result better than 7 minutes late. Bottom of a Garden, near a frog pond Heaven help us if the drought breaks ARTC have these and places such as so the transcription is oftentimes a bit with a vengeance - there is no doubt Albion Jct (?), Sunshine and Jacana croaky and very cryptic to those who that the current 'dry' has helped slow Loop in their timetables despite these are not Gnomes. down degradation of the track to a having no relevance at all for SG train large degree. … NOW READ ON running. V/Line, in their pedantic way, The interesting bit of all this is that the ignore the mass of central sidings and BIG: track manager and train operator have yards but add in the curious different times for this train (and Tullamarine BG junction (?), Jacana “Gs: 8620? … This is not a story others) in their MTPs (WTTs if you Flyover, Kilmore Grade Crossing, about a long gone NSW electric loco, are of retiring age), so while V/line is Tallarook Loop (between Tallarook but rather the every day V/Line running their train to one set of times Nth End and Sth End) as their midday Albury - Southern Cross (SX) the train controllers are managing it to contribution to fairy land. passenger train. a different set. Are we surprised that ARTC don't define where their single Since the start of May last year I have the N.E. line is not anything like a timing point is at their four passing travelled this train between Seymour precision operation. As well as having lanes (but you can work it out - and SX no less than 26 times. Times two lots of times, both ARTC and V/ Tullamarine at the exit end of the lane, into SX have been between 3 minutes Line have some fairly 'colourful' Donnybrook at that location, Kilmore early and 18.5 minutes late which, timings - of up to 210 km/h point to East at that location and Tallarook at given the propensity of ARTC to point averages in a couple of cases, the north end. Given these lanes are allow temporary speed restriction which rather suggests that the four minutes long at passenger speeds (TSRs) to get a heritage classification timetablers are somewhat less than it seems almost childish to time just before they show any interest in doing familiar with their territory and have one (undefined) end. One notable anything about them, is the sort of no idea exactly what they are issue is that both timetables allow 16 result you might expect. timetabling for. In both cases there are minutes from Sims St to SX - a section places of supreme irrelevance to train By my count there were 3 trains that that is around 8 minutes on a half running, while ARTC presumably were exactly on time or early, 6 more reasonable day (and more or less the must have had a problem Geek in their that were no more than 5 minutes late secret of why 8 minutes late from midst at one time, so have passenger (a reasonable measure of 'on time' for Seymour can be OT at SX). trains visiting North Dynon, Appleton a regional line), 7 more that were no Dock Jct, Canal Siding, Melbourne There is a lot of 'garbage' timing in more than 10 minutes late (the sloppy Operations Terminal and Moonee both timetables, the sort of thing that V/Line measure) and 10 that were late Ponds Jct (not Moonee Ponds Ck Jct would make a NSW man or Victorian by even V/Line's measure. as you might expect) between Sims St back in the half minute timing era On a good day 8620 will regain and SX. Curiously they don't go via throw up in their grave. It is little between around 8 minutes from its South Dynon which a place they really wonder that the words precision and time out of Seymour (i.e. if it is 8 late do more or less go to. NESG train running are mutually exclusive. The Times June 2019 3 Times according to: themselves as King, and VLP just has Who played Whom? ... Timing Point V/Line ARTC to fit in as the ‘poor cousin’. Seymour Platform 15.07/09 15.06/08. Terry Scott - BIG The one minute variation happens soon after Wodonga Of course, when you look at some of Hugh Lloyd - SMALL and remains constant through to Seymour. the schedules that ARTC churn out for John Clive - OLD Tallarook North End 1513 1514 NSW Heritage Trains, you do wonder Tallarook South End 1517 na Leon Thau - PLASTIC at the calibre of ARTC Schedulers. Kilmore North End 1529 na Anne de Vigier - Dolly Kilmore South End 1534 1530 Perhaps Old would have a view on Lynn Dalby - Rita that statement!” Wallan Loop 1542 1540 … and who won? Donnybrook North End 1548 na Can you match the 1969 Actors to Donnybrook South End 1550 1548 OLD: the 2019 Gnomes AND their pictures Somerton Loop 1558 1556 “Old is rolling around the office floor. Broadmeadows 1602/03 1601 on page 3? Who are the Railway Little, we should send Rita and Dolly Tullamarine ("somewhere") 1606 1606 Gnomes in real life?—a number are over to Adelaide to sit on someone’s McIntyre Loop 1609 1607 ATA members. Tottenham Jct 1613 1611 lap and show them how to do TTs. I West Footscray Jct 1618 1616 have this constant battle with them and I could type for hours with many a sad Sims St Jct 1624 1622 even their own staff have difficulty Moonee Ponds Ck Jct 1629 1629 getting it through to them. story and even some funny bits.” Southern Cross 1640 1638 One instance recently: Adelaide do BIG: The current times of both V/Line and some work on TAA, you can tell by ARTC are as above. I used to time to “Little, I had a feeling you would put the footer on TAA, and they publish ARTC times but since late March this some 'clothing' on the issue. Much as I times for varying locations, including year have now adopted V/Line times expected, which brings me to 8630 Burrawang Bus Stop, just to name one since that is what the train operator which (in the April 2019 MTP) location. Their own Planner over here thinks it is running to.
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