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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Third Session (Tentll Lot Sabba)
(Vol: XlI contains Nos. 4J to 49)
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CONTENTS
[Tenth Series, Vol. XII, Third Session, 199211914 (Saka)}
No. 46, Thursday, May 7, 1992Naisakha 17, 1914 (Saka)
Oral Answers to Questions: 1-30
·Starred Question Nos. 902 to 905
Written Answers to Questions: 31)-300
Starred Question Nos. 906 to 915 and 917 to 921 30-42
Unstarred Question Nos. 9339 to 9471 43-270 9473 to 9498, 9498-A and 9498-B
Re. Botors Issue 300-323
Papers laid on the Table 323-326 leave of Absence trom the sittings of the House 326
Statement by Minister 327-328 342-343
(i) Modifications to the National 327-328 policy on Education, 1986 Shri Arjun Singh 327·328 (ii) Derailment of 7022 Dakshin Express 342·343 on the Balharashah-Kazipet Broad gauge section ot South Central Railway on 6.5.1992 Shri Ma/likarjun 342·343
Matters under Rule 377 328-332 (i) Need to provide more funds to Kerala 328 Government for the development of Sports in the State Prof. K. V. Thomas (II) Need to classify 'Kuruvlkarans' of . 328-329 Tamil Nadu as Scheduled Tribe
Shri P.P. Kaliaperumal • The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii) Cow..1NS
(iii) Need to construct an over-bridge at 329-330 Shikohabad railway crossing, Uttar Pradesh
Shri Prabhu Dayal Katheria
(iv) Need to introduce direct superfast Railway trains 330-331 from Agra to Allahabad, Varanasi and Bombay
Shri Bhagwan Shankar Rawat
(v) Need to provide modem communication 331 facilities In Sambhal parliamentary constitituency, Uttar Pradesh Dr. S.P. Vadav
(vi) Need to hand over certain tea gardens of West Bengal 331-332 managed by TTCI to WTDC
Shri Jitendra Nath Das
(vii) Need for early setting up Cashew Board at 332 Quilon, Kerala
Shri Kodikkunil Suresh
Committee on Petitions 332-334
Action taken Statements - Laid
Constitution (Seventy-First Amendment) Bill (Amendment 334-342 of articles 81, 82, 170 and 327) 344-357 As passed by Rajya Sabha Motion to refer to Select Committee
Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy 334-336 353-357
Shri Lal K. Advani 336-341
Shri Mohan Singh 344-345
Shri Ram Vilas Paswan 345-348
Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vadde 348·349
Shri Somnath ｃｨ｡ｴｴ･ｾ･･＠ 349-350 Shri Ratial Varma 351
Dr. Kartikeswar Patra 351-352
Shri P.C. Thomas 352
Constitution (Seventy-Sixth Amendment) Bill 357-434 (Amendment of articles 54 and 239 AA)
As passed by Rajya Sabha
Motion to consider (iii)
ColUMNS
Shri K.ViJaya Bhaskara Reddy 357-360 366-368
Shri Madan Lal Khurana 360-363
Shri Manoranjan Bhakta 363-364
Shri Bhogendra Jha 364
Shri Surya Narayan Yadav 365
Shri Sudarsan Raychaudhuri 365-366
Shri Pius Tirkey 366
Clauses 2-3 and 1 381-421
Motion to Pass Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy 408 LOK SABHA DEBATES
lOKSABHA [English]
Soli Testing Laboratorie. Thursday, May 7, 19921 Vaisakha 17, 7974 (Saka) *902. SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: The Lok Sabha met at (a) the numberof soil testing laboratories Eleven of the Clock in the country, State-wise;
[MR. SPEAKER in the Chair} (b) whethertheGovernmentproposeto set up such a laboratory in each block of ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS State; (c) of so, the details thereof; and
[English] Cd) the average cost of setting up such a laboratory? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICUL TURAL(SHRIK.C. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE LENKA): Mr. Speaker Sir, before you call MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K. C. Q.No. 902, I haveto make a submission. For lENKA): (a) A statement is laid on the table your kind information, my colleague Shri of the Sabha. Mullapally Ramachandran's wife is seriously (b) No, Sir. ill and he could not come to the House. I got (c) In view of (b) above, the question the papers only now and I will try to answer does not arise. the questions to the best of my ability. (d) The average cost of setting up a Soil MR. SPEAKER: '"When did you receive Testing laboratory (e)(cluding cost of land the papers? Just an hour back, I suppose! and building) with a capacity for 10,000 soil safr1)Jes per annum., would be approximately O. No. 902, Shri Chandrakar please. As. 5.00 lakhs. .
STATEMENT
NurrtJer of Soil Testing Laboratories - State-wiS8
S.No State NurrtJer of soU testing Laboratories In thil country
1. Andhra Pradesh 31
2. Kamataka 23
3. Kerala 1i 3 Oral Answers MAY 7,1992 Oral Answers 4
S.No State Number 01 soil testing Laboratories in the country
4. Tamil Nadu 34
5. Pondicherry 02
6. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 03
7. Gujarat 25
8. Madhya Pradesh 29
9. Maharashtra 22
10. Rajasthan 12
1,. Goa 02
12. Haryana 30
13. Punjab 49
14. Uttar Pradesh 71
15. Himachal Pradesh 12
16. Jammu & Kashmir 08
17. Delhi 01
18. Bihar 41.
19. Orissa 11
20. West Bengal 13
21. Assam 13
22. Tripura 02
23. Manipur 02
24. Meghalaya 01
25. Nagaland 01
26. Arunachal Pradesh 01
27. Sikkim 01
28. Mizoram 01
Total 463 5 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6
[Translation] given Rs. 5 crore for strengthening the existing laboratories In the country and also SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR: to set up some more mobile laboratories. I Mr. Speaker, Sir, to augmentthe agricultural will consider the case of Madhya Pradesh, production, it is necessary to have a soil keeping their requirement In view. testing lab In every development block to test the fertility of the soil but these have not [Translation] been provided so far. It has been stated in the reply that in all the States in the country SHRI CHANDUlAL CHANDRAKAR: there are only 463 soil testing laboratories, Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. ｾｩｮｩｳｴ･ｲ＠ has just Madhya Pradesh, which is area wise the now stated Rs. 5 crores have been given to biggest State in the country is having 29 Madhya Pradesll ｴｾｩｳ＠ year under The Eighth laboratories only. I do not have any grudge Five Year Plan, I may point out through you against any state but even then I want to that there are 400 blod(s in the State. Will the submit that Kerala which is even smaller Central Government ask the Madhya than Bastar District of Madhya Pradesh is Pradesh Government to set up a soil testing having as many as 19 such laboratories. lab in each block? Similarly, will the Central There are 30 laboratories in Haryana, 49 in Government make efforts to set up a soil Punjab, But in Madhya Pradesh there are testing laboratory in each bklck of every only 29 labs. The land in Madhya Pradesh is State in the country. We want an assurance very fertile and the water resources are that the soil testing laboratory will be set up enough, even then why the number of labs in each block of the country. is less there? I would like to ask the Government as to whether it will try to make [English] provision in the Eighth Five Year Plan to provide one soil testing lab in each block SHAI K.C. LENKA: As I told you, at even if its cost is 51akh rupees. H Rs. Siakh present, there is no proposal under the is invested in a block then on the other hand consideration of the Government to create the expenditure of crores of rupees on one Soil Testing Laboratory in each block. fertilisers, will be saved. So, the hon. Minister . Sir, are you prepared to make such a Butso far as the State Governments are provision in the Eighth Year Plan? concerned, we will certainly ask the State Governments to increase their Soil Testing [English] Centres. In the Eighth Five Year Plan, due to constraint of funds, we do not have any SHRI K.C.LENKA: Sir, at present there proposal to have one such laboratory in are 463 testing laboratories in the country, each block. out of which 100 laboratories are mobile. The present capacity utilisation is about 75 per SHRISOBHANADREESWARA RAO cent. We have not been able to utilise the full VADDE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, one 01 the main capacity of the existing laboratories. The reasons for not utilising the full capacity is hon. Member's proposal is good and if we that some farmers who are progressive and can have one laboratory in each block, it will who are enlightens and who want to know certainly augment the production. But one about the soli conditions, they are able to get laboratory costs about Rs. 5 lakh. One the details and whereas, a very large number laboratory will be able to give 1 0,000 samples of farmers still cannot think of this faCility. a year. Due to the resource constraints Government has decided to first gear up the So, I would like to know irom the hon. existing laboratories for full capacity Minister, through you, whether the Union utilisation. Then the Government may think Government will suggest to the State of creating new laboratrories. So far as Governments steps regarding this. Of Madhya Pradesh is concerned, under the course, as you said, setting up of a Soil Eighth Five Year Plan, this year we have Testing Laboratory In each block will cost a 7 Oral Answers MAY7,1992 Oral Al'lswers 8 lot. But, already, there are staff of the must be a largeolabortory at least on the Agriculture depanment who are there. commissionery level. The Uttar Pradesh Govemment had discussed in 1986 in the Will the Union Government suggest to legislative assembly the need to increase the State Governments - because they are the number of laboratories. No proper the Implementing agencies at the State level publicity has been made in the most backward - to make it part and parcel of the duties of districts of Northem Uttar Pradesh like the staff who are working in the Agriculture Gazipur, Jaunpur, Azamgarh, BalJia and Department, to collect the samples from Sonbhadra, that the soil is tested in these every village, from all the four sides, and get laboratories. The farmers do not have any them tested and make available the knowledge of such facility. Are you planning, information at the Gram Panchayat Office? to set up a big laboratory there at the If it is done, the nature of soil - the fertilizers commissionery level and publicise its that are required -and the micro-nutrients existence among the farmers there? Do you that are deficient, can be improved. It will pose to make such arrangements in the improve the production also. Will you kindly eighth Five YearPlanforthebenefit ofsmaJl take necessary steps to see that, at least. farmers and set up big laboratory at a for increasing the production you double the commissionery level? number of these ｭｯ｢ｾｾ･＠ soil testing laboratories? If it is done, at least, two [English] districts may be covered with one mobile soil testing laboratory. It will be of great help. Will SHRI K.C. LENKA: So far as Uttar the han. Minister consider this and do the Pradesh is concerned, the capacity utilisation needful? of.the laboratories registered today in Uttar Pradesh is higherthan the national average. SHRI K.C. LENKA: Sir, this is true that Butthe proposal is very good forthe backward one of the reasons for not utilising it to full districts in eastern Uttar Pradesh. capacity is due to lack of inflow of soil to the laboratories. There is no infrastructure in our But in the Eighth Five Year Plan, we are country. At present, the interested farmers going to have a scheme to train the farmers themselves come to the laboratories for soil and to propagate this scheme among the testing. There is no agency to collect the soil farmers saying that soil testing is the primo from the farme rS for testing it in the laboratory. necessity for growing crops and increasing During the Eighth Five Year Plan and production. particularly this year, the Government of India isgoingto introduce, a Central scheme SHRISUDHIRSAWANT:lnmanyareas lor a balanced and integrated use offertilizers, of this country, agricultural operations are to see that the inflow of soil from the farmers still primitive; this is because the agriculture is increased; and also, the percentage of research has been directed to a particular capacity utilisation could be increased so area that is plains and the plateaus; whereas that we can cover more number of farmers the coastal areas have been totally neglected in the rural areas. like in konkan areas many irrigation projects have failed because of laterite soil. Lakhs of [ Translation) rupees have been spent but of no avail. That is why due attention must be given to the SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: coastal areas. Is there any plan, that priority Mr. Speaker. Sir, the Hon. Minitter in his will be given in the Eighth Five Year Plan to statement has stated 1hat there are 71 the coastal areas? central laboratories In Uttar Pradesh.1 know that out of those 71 laboratories in Uttar SHRI K.C. LENKA: This system helps Pradesh, only a few are big laboratories agriculture very much because this system working on a large scale and the people identifies the deficiency of plant nutrients In there are continuously feeling that there the soli. So, we are giving priority to know the 9 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 status of micro-nutrients in the soil; and [ Translation] accordingly, we advise the farmers about the use of fertilisers; and also we are looking SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. after to examine the ground water and Speaker, Sir, yesterday the Hon. Finance suggesting the farmers its use for irrigation Minister had confirmed that petroleum purpose. products worth 15 thousand crore rupee are being imported every year. The functioning In coastal .districts also laboratories of the Oil Natural Gas Commission has not which have been established, are primarily only attracted public criticism but the Hon. looking after this matter - saline water and Finance Minister himself has commented on other nutrients that is status of the nutrients the working of the Commission. inside the soil; and they giving he findings of ittothefarmers; and accordingly the farmers Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to know as to are utilising the fertilisers judiciously in the not how many wells are lying idle. H-the Hon. soil for the increase of the production. Minister does not have information in this regard he can evade reply by saying that he Drilling of 011 Wells requires notice but the Hon. Minister is an intelligent person and can well visulaise that + when we are asking the number of wells ·903 SHRI ATAL BIHARI working, then the questions as to how many VAJPAYEE: wells are lying idle and since when these SHRI SHANKERSINGH have been lying idle are likely to be asked. VAGHELA: Is it true that the wells are being neglected? Is it also a fact that the Commission Is not Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND. doing its duty properly? Why, the production NATRUAL GAS be pleased to state: of oil is not registering the stipulated increase? (a) the details of the oil wells where drilling is going on at present and the cost of [English] drilling per meter in each case; SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: In the (b) whether any study has been made to methodology of operations of the Corporation reduce !he drilling cost; and there will always be certain idle wells and certai'l wells which are under rectification. (c) if so, the outcome thereof? Altogether, there are about one thousand wells which are either idle or which are under rectification. It is the constant endeavour of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the ONGC to keep the number of idle wens MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND low, improve the production from the existing NATURAL GAS AND THE MINISTER OF wells in order to improve the production in STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE the short term. (SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR): (a) At present 136 wells are underdrilling. The costf drilling As regards part (a) of the question, It is per meter in each well varies depending on true that there is a gap between the demand location, depth, geology etc. and the indigenous production of crude and petroleum products, imposing on us a (b) and (c). Studies to improve drilling crushing burden of imports. It is the endeavor efficiency have been carried out. of this Ministry through short medium and Implementation of various recommendations long term measures to see !hat this gap is in this regards has resulted in improvement contained and reduced. We have launched of rig productivity. major development schemes in the Bombay 11 Oral Answers MAY 7, 1992 Oral Answers 12 High. About seven major projects are being We are also aware of the fact that In launched during the Eighth Plan: which view of the growing demand for oil in this when implemented wi!! result in increase in country efforts shall have to be made to production by about 14 million tonnes a produce more oil in the country. We cannot year. go on depending on imported oil and spending huge amounts of foreign exchange. We are Also, we have concluded what is known aware ofthese things. As a matter of fact, as as the fourth round of bidding for 13 blocks the House is aware, a Committee was offered to national and international appointed to find out why oil production is companies 24 bids have come, these bids cOming down and the Dasgupta Committee willbetumed into production sharing contracts went into the various aspects. They have in the next two months. suggested certain recommendations and we are taking action as per the Similarly, we have to find new wells due recommendations of the Committee. to the on-going exploration efforts in various parts of the country. If any ofthese wells can I Translation] be productionised during the Eighth Plan, additionally in production can be achieved. SHRI SHANKERSINH VAGHELA: Mr. So, this is a comprehensive programme for Speaker, Sir, through-you I would like to the improvement of production which the know from the Hon. Ministerthetotal quantity Government is concentrating on; the of our crude oil reserves, as also the Government has a perspective strategy as percentage of the crude oil which is being well as an action plan. exploited at present. Are irregularities being committedbyO.N.G.C. intheexploration of SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: I petroleum products? The Government had specifically referred to the widespread taken a decision in November 1990 to criticism of the functioning of the ONGC. I undertake exploration work in the joint also referred to the criticism made by the sector with the help of private companies, as Finance Minister himsell. I would like to such how many Indian and foreign companies know whether Ihe Ministry has taken any are involved in exploration work and how note of such criticism. Whal have they done many companies are working in the jOint to streamline the functioning of the sector? What is the quantity of crude oil Commission? available in oil our reserves and how much is being exploited? THE MINISTEROFPETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. [English] SHANKARANAND): I do share the anxiety andconcem of Ihe hon. Member with regard SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: There are to production of oil. It is also a fact -I do not different types 01 reserves, the want to deny the fact- that the production prognosticated reserves as they are called, has come down during the last couple of about 5 million barrels in the country in 26 years. It is not as though -let us keep in our sedimentary basins. Out of the established ｭｩｮｾ＠ once the development of any-oilfield reserves, we produce about four and a hall takes place, in the wells that are dug, oil will per cent, that is production to reseNes ratio not flow continuously for years to come. is 1:23. This production to reseNe ratio is low There is some sort of reseNoir and its when compared other countries. That recoverable reserves in the womb of the means, we are not exploiting'()ur reserves at weU. Oil can be extracted to a maximumlevel a rate which is possible. This Is due to givenreservoirconSlraints, the development several constraints of functioning, including constraints and other circumstances. It is the availability of foreign exchange from ourconcem to see that the oil is produced to time to time. It is true that as per the new the maximum possible extent. Economic Policy of our Government, several 13 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 parts of oil economy, have been thrown been spent on exploration in West Bengal. open for participation for private sector and We are continuing the exploration. But if you foreign companies especially exploration. It want a specific answer for a particular part is on this basis, Sir, the 72 blocks, .39 such as a district, we will require notice. I offshore and 33 onshore- have been put up shall make the information available to the forbidding. As I said 24 bids have comefor 13 hon, Member. blocks. These will be converted into contracts. Procurement of Pipelines by ONGC As far as the remaining blocks are + concerned, we will be throwing them open * 904. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: for further bidding as per a policy to be SHRt R. DHANUSKODI decided immediately. So, it is our endeavour ATHITHAN: to maximise the potential operating of ONGC, which is the emploring company, to explore Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND the possibility of joint venture in wells to be NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: specifically located for the purpose. Thus, full advantage will be laken of the new policy (a) whether an enquiry has been sought for promoting private sector partiCipation. into the alleged irregularities committed by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission in the DR. C. SIL VERA: Sir, it is presumed that procurement of pipelines for capping the there is fair amount of oil deposits in the flaring natural gas from Bombay High; North Eastern States. And some preliminary investigations had been done in the State of (b) if so, the details thereof; and Mizoram. May I know from the hon. Minister, how many drillings are being undertaken in (c) the action taken in this regard? the North Eastern Stales of India at present; how many in the State of Mizoram in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE particular; what IS the outcome of drilling that MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND was done in Bi!kaothlir; and what is the oil NATURAL GAS AND THE MINISTER OF prospect in the State of Mizoram? STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR): (a) and (b). A SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Sir, representation has been received from exploration activity has taken place in Members of Parliament regarding certain Mizoram. One well was dug in 1991, that is alleged irregularities in the procurement of called Rengte. line pipes for SHG Process Complex by ONGC. The allegations include, inter alia, For further details about exploration, all that the order was placed on a consortium possibilities and prospects in Mizoram we the leader of which had evaded customs will require notice. I shall send this information duty by misusing and selling imported to the hon. Member. material, that the firm has no suitable manufacturing or processing facilities, that SHRI SUDHIR GIRl: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the processing part was to be done by I want to know from the hon. Minister, another firm whose bids were rejected by through you, whether oil well drilling took ONGC on four counts 01 technical place in Ihe district 01 Maldah in West Bengal incompetence etc. and whether oil was found there or nOI. If so, what is the quantum of oil deposits in the (cJ No action wilh regard 10 Ihe contract distric\ of Maldah? is considered 10 be necessary.
SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Sir, in [ Translation) West Bengal, as a while 33 onland wells and 7 offshore wells have been dug. Altogether SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. about a sum of Rs. 600 crores has so far Speaker, sir, I was one of the sognaturies 15 Oral Answers MAY 7,1992 Oral Answers 16
of the communication submitted to the han. market without its perinisslon, and a case Prime Minister. I am surprised that the hon. has been filed against the Director. I am Minister replying on an issue on which a unable to understand these three things. letter was written tothe Prime Minist,er. says: The hon. Minister may please explain clarify the position in regard thereon. [English] [English] • No action with regard to the contract is considered to be SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Sir, the necessary". first part of the hon. Membe(s supplementary does not deserve an answer. He is • I do not [ Translation] have to answer to his opinion.
Since he is one of the best advoCates, SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, I he may be right as far as argument goes. take objection to the words that I am. I take When the contract has already been signed, exception to the use of the words. there is no question of taking any action. But, as regards bungling,the hon. Prime Minister MR. SPEAKER: That will not form part can take action, it can be interpreted that of the record. way also. I have three objections with regard to the whole matter on which I would like to [ Translation] seek clarification from the hon. Minister. Firslly, you have given the contract to a SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I admit company, viz. P.J. Pipes that did not apply thatthepointsraised by me create problems. when bids were invited on 31st October, That is why we rise here to speak. 1990 for the first time. The cO"llany did purchased the form but it did not participate {English] in the bid. Is it not a fact? Secondly, the company which is said to be a member of SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: As regards the consortium today, is the Som Pipes limited. second part of the question - which I take It's bid was rejected on the ground that it was congnizance of -I maysaythatthis particular not technically qualified. Your tender firm, P .J. Pipes or the consortium led by this committee whose three general managers particular firn:l was the lowest tendered. It have been the Members of N.G.C., has was technically qualified and the bid was written: valid under our security. Therefore, the contract was awarded to this firm. It is true [English] that the last date for this particular contract which relates to our Zero Gas Flaring "The bidder had no track record for Redudion Project which has high priority supply of line pipes for sour service was shifted by about eight months because application". of certain requirement of changing It from the World Bank portfolio on to another source of [ Translation] funding. Later on, on the basis of request by several firms, not by PJ Pipes alone, the date It means that the company is not was further extended. h is also true that this cofTl)E!tent at all. That is what you said. particular firm had commif1ed irregularities Thirdly, the company which has been by way of selling i"llOrted stainless steel in awarded the contract of Consortium by you, the black-market The Directorate of Revenue is being taken to task by the Ministry of Intelligence has taken action against this firm Finance. The cO"llany indulged in the act and the action is In progress. Buttlle pertinent of earning money by selling il1llOrted material points, as far as the question is concerned, of ONGC worth As. 7.5 crOfe in the open Is that at the point at which the contracy was '"Not recorded 17 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Oral Al1$wers 18 awarded, this firm had not been blacklisted. are opened and first the technical bids are As far as the contracting Ministry is evaluated. When we are sure of the technical concerned, it is legally impossible lor them aspect of any tenders, then the price bids are to exclude any firm for consideration for opened. In this case the firm that was not award of the contract so long as that firm has found to be technically valid was not PJ not been given a show-cause notice by the Pipes but some other pipes. Of course, it IS appropriate Ministry and the procedure is one of the members of the consortium. PJ observed and the firm is blacklisted. Show Pipes is nol disqualified on account of the cause notice for blacklisting of the firm had technical aspect of the bid. Ultimately the not been given atthetime olthe award of the companies which had qualified for bids were contract. Merely on the basis of information only two and they were the Indian Consortium that the firm has committed irregularities led by PJ Pipes and another foreign which have been taken congniance of by the consortium. In this, efforts were on byONGC DRI. it is not legally correct for us to deny to have a competing price, a better price. opportunity for award of the contract, Discussions did go on to get an offer for especially when it is the lowest tender. n better price. II was in the interests of this would have been illegal to do so. So, that it country to have a competitive price in favour is the position. of the country. In the end, when the extensions were demanded, we requested extension SHRIGEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, you forthe Validity 01 their offer. In the long run, have seen the reply of the Minister that it the Japa:](;se consortium refused to give would have been illegal to give contract to a extens.un te lhe valida!::·n. There was only company which has committed illega::'ies. one con,." ｾ＠ , 1"" that is the Indian consortium. In fact. he used the term 'which had sold which was leil In the field. This was also thing in the black-market.' He has said that evaluated. This consonium consisted of two action is being taken and the action is that Indian companies backed up by one German he is now giving another Rs. 180 crores of company and another consortium. This is contract. This is the action. not PJ Pipes alone. It was the consortium that was given the contract. There was no [ Translation) irregularity committed as far as the evaluation of the bids either technical bids or price bids. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will not discuss it now. Them was no irregularity committed. You should admit a discussion in the House on this issue. But the hon. Minister, while SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir. he replying, has said that it was the lowest is giving wrong information. (Interruptions) tender. is it a fact that the contract was awarded by you even after waiting for two SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I am years, in a hurry by hook or by crook, at a coming to that. After all, there are certain time when the inter- national rate of all these conditions lor Inviting tenders. The tenders things had come down when the tender was of those who have fulfilled these conditions awarded. H you had kept open the date of are accepted. We have no authority to bids upto 25th April. the contract would have refuse. For that matter, no cO"l>any. no been given at a lower rate. Government or no person- who invites tenders for a particular purpose or a function [English) of Ihe work- has any authority to refuse any lenders that are submitted and which fuHiII THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND the conditions. NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish The hon. Member referred to the to submit to the House as to how the bids economic offenses committed by a particular are evaluated and how tenders are called. company in this regard. I may say that no There Is a set procedure' for Inviting the economic offence was found to have been tenc;ters. After inviting the tender. the bids committed with reference to the fuHilment of 19 Oral Answers MAY7,1992 Oral Answers 20 any contract by this particular company with requirements are met by the firm as per the O.N.G.C. The question of disqualifying in contract. this case does not arise at all. With regard to the malpractices which are alleged to SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Sir, as far have been committed by this company. It as the track record of the firm in earlier comes under the area of a different Ministry contracts is corn MR. SPEAKER: What type of As regards the satisfaction of the clarification you seek from me? specifications of the technical parametres in the particular contract about which the SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I want D.R.!. offence is alleged to have been a clarification through you. In this regard the committed the ONGC version is that it has hon. Minister has said that the Scm Pipes not committed any irregularity with reference has been declared disqualified ontheground to this contract. All the technical parametres that it was not competent technicaally. But were met. There were no rejections. Their the P.J. PipeS company has no manufacturing supplies were fully technically approved by facility. It serves as a contractor to the the O.N.G.C. contractors. But the Som Pipes is the manufacturing company, who has the { Translation} manufacturing facility. The hon. Minister has misled the House just now. SHRI RABI RAY: Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Krishan Kumar, while replying to Shri George [English] Fernandes, has confirmed as to how illegalities were committed by the company SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I have not and how the Revenue Intelligence mislled the House. The O.N.G.C. Steeering Department, Government of India had found Committee has taken all the steps in varifying him guilty. later on, Shri Shankaranand is the facts which are required to sanctioning saying that no irregularity was committed in of any contract. respect of O.N.G.C. That is why they gave the contract to that company. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: But you said that.... Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to say that the hon. Minister has conceded that illegality MR. SPEAKER: This cannot continue has been committed by the company. It like this. Shri Dhanoskodi Athitham may put came to the notice of a Ministry of the this supplementary. Government 01 India. It is said that the. O.N.G.C. did not commit any illegality, that SHRJ A. DHANUSKODI ATHITHAN: is why the contract was given to that Sir, what is the track record of the firm in the company. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if this message supply of the pipes in earlier contracts? I goes out from this House, it would not be in would like 10 know from the hon. Minister the interest of the nation. It is not a question whether the technical parametres and other of prestige because it is an Illegality, and 21 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 something wrong has been committed. [English] Therefore, I would like to know fromthehon. Minister why did he honour it with the SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: The firm contact on behaH of O.N.G.C. when It's can still be blacklisted. But at that point of character was suspect. Would you like to time they were not blacklisted and therefore, honour it in future also? we could not exclude them from consideration. [English) SHRI ANNA JOSHI: At least you were SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Sir, when I knowing it. (Interruptions) answered Mr. George Fernandes, I did not say that these people were awarded the SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Knowing it contract, for no offence against the ONGC is not enough. was committed. The offence has been committed by this firm in relation to economic MR. SPEAKER: let the Minister offences which has been taken cognizance complete please, not like this. by the DRI and penalties imposed, the process is going on. What I said was, there SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: Knowing is a regular legal procedure for blacklisting that they have committed an economic of firms which has been laid down by the offence is not enough to exclude them from Department of Supply which is the nodal consideration. They have to be blacklisted. Department. Unless that procedure is gone (Interruptions). Sir, I understand their point. through and the firm is blacklisted, that I am not protecting or defending that firm. But particular firm cannot be excluded from the question is, it is for the DR!.... consideration of any contract. There are Supreme Court dicision on the issue [Trans/ation] (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: First listen. After [ Translation) hearing, you may raise question. It Is not proper of you don't allow him to speak. MR. SPEAKER: I have a specific [English) question. You are not allowing him to complete, [English] it is not correct please. SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: I am coming SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR: We are in that. I am coming to the to (Interruptions). correspondence with the DRI and there is specific issue. still a case for blacklisting of the firm H it Is necessary. But the evidence in relation to the Therefore, the question is whether the crime which has been committed, the ONGC should have taken congnizance of methodology of the crime, the evidence and the fact thatthis particular firm has committed everything is with the DR!. We cannot give an oHence proceded against by another even a show cause notice because the agency. We knew the thing, but that does offence does not inambiguously relate 10 the not legally permit us to excluded the firm until ONGC contracts. So, this Is the Situation, they are blacklisted. (Interruptions) this is the legal position. [ Translation] [Translation] SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Mr. Speaker, SHRI RABIRAY:Mr. Speaker, Sir, I did Sir, who will prepare the black list? of course not get reply to my question. I have raised the, the Department will prepare it. aspeclficquestion. The Revenue Intelligence (Interruptions). Department, Government of India says- 23 Oral Answers MAY 7,1992 Oral Answers 24 (Englishj aware of the financial irregularitiescommitted by that particular firm and even after "that firm has committed economic knowing iffullywell the Ministry of petroleum offence." did not wait till the Ministry 01 Law cleared this firm. This particular firm has committed [Translation] financial irregularities and that may be concerned wilh some other Department, EventhentheO.N.G.C., an undertaking but this is being investigated. So, I would like of Government of India has awardedconlract to knowfromthe hon. Ministerwhetherit was to that company. This question raised by me not proper on his part to wait till that firm is could not be replied 10. cleared by the Ministry of law. MR SPEI\KER He has explained it in SHRI S. KRlSHI\N KUMI\R Sir, my his reply. senior colleague has already stated that we have got the opinion of the Ministry of Law [Englishl saying that there is no case for negating the contract. Secondly, along with the award of SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I will explain the contract, we had intimated the it again. Department of Revenue Intelligence that we were awarding the contract. We are in Sir, the hon. Member has rightly raised correspondence and at no pOint of time, the the question and it is a very valid and DRI asked us to disqualify the firm or important question. I do not want to save or blagklist the firm either. Therefore, at the defend any company or any consortium or point of awarding the contract, legally there whatever it may be, which is gu my of economic is no way, but to award the contract. Some offence. let this be clear to the House. We knowledge of an offenced connected with will not allow anybody to escape who has some other Department is not enough legally, committed economic offence. That must be to deny the contract to the lowest bidder, clear. (Interruptions) If you listen to me, who is otherwise eligible and who does not perhaps, your doubts will be cleared. A stand blacklisted. c0l1l>any which has committed economic offence should not be given the contract. [ Translation] That is the contention of the hon. Members. (Interruptions) Abduction of Traders In Deihl MR. SPEAKER: Please do not interrupt • 905 SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: Will in between; hear him property. the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Sir, when we consider the bids for the contract, we (a) whether Incidents of abduction of look to the conditions ofthe contract; we look traders in Delhi have increased recently; to the conditions to be fulfilled by the person who bids, If those conditions are fulfilled, (b) the number of such cases reported with what authority can we say that he in Delhi during 1991 and 1992 so far; cannot be given the contract? This is one aspect. With reference to the contention (c) the nurroer of cases solved and the made by the hon. Member, we did refer this nurroer of cases still pending; case to the Law Ministry and. the Law Ministry has given its.opinion that we cannot (d) the nurrber of persons arrested in cancel the contract. connection whh those cases and the action taken against them; and SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Sir, both the Ministers have stated that they were (e) the specific meaSlolres taken to 25 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Oral AllIwers 26 ,,_.. cheCk the recurrence of such incidents? [English] [English] SHRI 5.B. CHA VAN: In the investigation, it has come to our nolice thallhe abductions THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS are for getting the amount of ransom. But (SHRI5.e.CHAVAN): (a)to(d). 7casesol unfortunately those who have been victims abduction of traders -were reported in Delhi of abduction neither in the beginning, ncr in In 1991 and 2 in 1992 (up too 15th April). Out tl1e middle cooperate. With great difficulty, of these, one case was cancelled. 3 have we can extract the information from them been instituted in the Courts and 5 are that they had to pay ransom money for pending investigation. The police have getting the victims released. That is why. if arrested 30 persons in these cases. anybody who has been abducted, if the victims cooperate with the police and try to (e) Among the measures taken are give the information, certainly the police can increased patrolling, proper investigation of make investigation on proper lines. reported cases and strengthening 01 intelligence. I fully agree with the hon. Member that there is a definite case for grater vigilance in [ Trans/ation] this matter. SHRISATYADEOSINGH:Mr.Speaker, i TranslatIOn] Sir, ,t is clear from the reply of the hon. Minister to my question that he is not SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: The hon. alarmed by the senOLJsness of such inCidents. Minister has conceded himself that such The capital of this country is Delhi where incidents are very serious and people hesttate various types of crime are committed. On to come forward to provide information. Has the last 9th Orctober 1991 the ambassador the Government ever considered why people of Romania was abducted. Before that, 5 hesitate to furnisli information? These days Bombay based diamond merchants were the creditability of the Government is less abducted on the 15th September, 1991. The than that 01 the criminals. They consider it Government has not been able to solve that safe to save their lives by giving the ransom mystery so far. It was mentioned by you in money than to seek the protection of the the other House that there was also a foreign socalled police force 01 the Government I hand behind thiS abduction and Karachi was would like to know whether the Government ai:;o involved While telephone was used. I is aware 01 the fact that the criminals, after would like to know through you whether the establishing their credit by extracting money han. Minister WQuid inform if he is in such a manner, have now started using contemplating to constitute a special telephone in Delhi and threat is now investigating team to check such incidents administered and ransom-money is also in Oelhi which will investigate only such demanded on telephone. Is it in his notice crimes concerned with abduction and will ihv that criminals Irom the neighboutrng States GOI/I. make arrangement for imparting come to Delhi for committing such crime and special training to the members of that alter cemmitting the crime they go back? I team? ThiS IS my first question. Secondly, I would like to know whether the Government would like to know if the Government is has made request regarding this to the aware of the fact that there has been a long Governments of Uttar Pradesh and Haryana bUSiness 01 abduction and the money and if it has prepared any joint action plan to extracted in that way is being used to have a watch on these crimina! activities, ｰｾｲｃｾｬ｡Ｕｦｊ＠ various types of weapons and to since, such matters are not only restrictedto fan national activities? If these reports are the abduction of merchants, such activities true. is the Government contempiating to are also being carried on in many states to take special actions on this serious matter? strike althe unity and integrity oftha country. 27 Oral Answers MAY 7,1992 Ora/ Answers 28 This is not confined to Delhi alone but this is that person is still registered and the ransom a national problem also. Will theGovemment money was given to the lifer and only then the chalk- out a programme by making some abducted person was released. I had a talk plan and by taking help from the State with that officer about this case. He admits Govemments to check such criminal activities that there was such a case which was also at least in Delhi? We have lost prestige published in newspapers; but I would like to before the international Community after the know as to what action wiU now be taken? case of abduction of Mr. Radu. (inteffuptions) I am referring to it because general public Is losing confidence in law and [Eng/ish] order as well as in the Government due to the cases of such abductions. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: About the first part olthe question, actually it is notthecreditability My humble submission to him is whether of the police but the threats which are being he is contemplating, as has been asked by administered to those who are abducted. my colleague, to prepare any Action Plan to People are being abducted for ransom prevent the recurrence of such incidonls. I money. There is one case in which since a do not say that such incidents are related persen who was abducted did no! pay the only with Delhi, they have alsogotconrtection money, he was actuaiiyki!led. So, the traders with terrorists and you know that they have always have the fear that if we do not pay set up their houses here as well; so is the ransom money, might be that we might be Govemment contemplating to prepare some killed. Action Plan regarding this? If you are contemplating, whether you are thinking to I quite agree with the hon. Memberthat do something to fulfill the assurance the hon. on the telephone also they are administrating Minister gave thaI M.Ps. of Delhi will also be threats and it should be possible for the taken into confidence in regard to police to keep track, provided everybody maintenance ot law and order situa:ion in were to cooperate. Delhi. About the Uttar Pradesh and Haryana [English) States, there have been co,:,stant meetings on monthly basis and quarterly basis. At SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: About the first part quarterly basis meeting, senior officers take of the question, we will be really very happy part and try to exchange information because if we can prepare a kind of Action Plan which it is the fact that some of the criminals come the hon. Member is suggesting. from the adjoining areas, commit the crime in DeIhl and go back In those areas. So, it [ Translation] becomes necessary that the information should be exchanged so that these criminals SHRI NITISH KUMAR: So long as the ｡ｲｾ＠ properly traced and they are bookoo. elections are not held such incidents will continue to take place in Deihl. The ｛ｔｾｮＵｉ｡ｴｩｯｮｬ＠ Government should inform us as to by what time It is going to hold elections in Delhi. SHRI MADAN LAl KHURANA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has said just now that he does not get full-eo-operation. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Ooes the hon. I narrate a case. Some days back, a shoe Member mean to claim that everything is all manufacturer of Mayapuri Indus rial area of right in Bihar after the elections? Delhi was abducted, his ransom money was handed over to a lifer facing sentence in one [English} of the jails of ....aryana. A relative of the abducted person was taken here. The entry SHRISOMNATHCHATIERJEE: Have inte Rotrtak Jail was open and the name of you no faith in elections? 29 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Written AJt$wers 30 SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: We would like to that it will be properforme but since the hon. discuss this issue which the hon. Member Member has asked this information, one of from Delhi has raised and I quite see the the traders had one With a girl friend of his point that promise which was made to the and retumedback! And, that is why, thecase hon. MelTi>ers from Delhi that the Lt. was considered canceled. I do not think that Govemor constantly call meetings of the there is anything wrong. Since the person hon. MelTi>ers and try to get some kind of has come back and he has disclosed this very reasonable and usefui suggestions. I kind of information, the case has to be am sure abduction can also be one of them. cancelld. MR. SPEAKER: This is a question Aboutthe other part, if the hon. Member relating to Delhi' I am warning you' has any other information where the Police Station refused to register a case, if he SHRI MRUTYUNJAYA NAYAK: Just brings it to my notice, certainly action will be like a missile launching station, Delhi has taken. become a terrorist-prone city. In the recent past also, Ambassador Mr. Radu Incident and whatever incidents happened two days back in the Kuwait Embassy shows that WRITTEN .ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Delhi has become the target ｯＡｾ･ｲｲｯｲｩｳｴｳＮ＠ So, I would like to know specifically whether the [ Translation] hon. Minister will consider to have some new Police Cell or Police protection to us in Services of Divers Delhi. ·906. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR: SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I agree that there SHRi TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: has to be some kind of an in nOllative thinking on this issue. Merely by setting up a Cell, this Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND question is not going to be solved. I will definitely take suggestions of the hon. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Members and try to work out if there is any possibility of having soma kind of an (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas innovative thinking for avoiding a sit\Jation of Commission has contacted some this nature. international companies with a view to get the services of divers for the inspection and [ Translation] repair of aquipments 8'ld materials used by the Commission in sea-waters; SHRI TARA CHAND KHANDELWAL: (b) so, the details thereof; Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has if informed that there have been only seven such cases in Delhi during 1991-92. As the (c) the terms and conditions on which Police Stations refuse to register F.I.A. of the jnternational companies have consented such cases just to avoid to bring on record to provide the services of divers; and the increasing number of crimes I would like to ask the hon. Ministerwhether he has also (d) the steps takenlproposedto betaken been guided.bythe same approach in giving by the Govemment to do away with the the figure of cases as merely seven. I would dependency on intemational companies in like to ask as to what was the reason behind such matters? r the cancellation of one such case by him. (English] THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Sir,l do not think SHANKARANAND): (a) No, Sir. 31 Written Answers MAY 7, 1992 ｗｬｩｲｲｾｮ＠ .lnswers 32 (b) to (d). Do not arise. Will the Minister 01 HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: [English] . (a) the success achieved in anti-militants Indian Veterinary Council Act· operations in Jammu and Kashmir during March and April, 1992, indicating the number ·907. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE:Willthe of militants' hide-outs busted, the number of .oister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to ext"emists killed and arrested, and the arms .lIe: seized from them; and (a) whether the Indian Veterinary Council (b) the estimated number of militants l.ct was enacted in 1984; still at large In the State? (b) if so, the States and Union Territories THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Nhere this Act has not yet been adopted; (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and (b). In operations against the terroriste in March (c) the reasons therefor; and and upto mid April 1992, 112 terrorists were killed and 242 persons were arrested. A (d) the measures the UnionGovemment large quantity of arms and ammunition was propose to take to ensure the adoption of the recoverd with included AK Rifles-619, Act in all the States uniformly? Revolvers/Pistols-109, Grenades-340, Machine Guns-25, Rockets/Rocket THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE launchers-39, Mines (AP, At and Claymore)- AINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. 28, and about 10 Kgs. of explosives. Selective ENKA): (a) 'Ves, Sir. searches and combing operations in different areas of the State have been undertaken by (b) The Indian Veterinary Council Act, security forces on the specific information t 984 has not yet been adopted by eleven and intelligence. States, namely; Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Jammu & Kashmir, Karnataka, Maharashtra, As per the available ｩｮｦｯｲｭｾｴｩｯｮＬ＠ the Meghalaya, Nagaland, Punjab, Tripura, Tamil strength of active militants in the State is Nadu and West Bengal. estimated at about 2,500. (c) These States have not yet passed [ Translation] the resolution in their respective legislatures for adopting the Indian Veterinary Council Pilgrimage to Kallash Act, 1984 as required underthe Constitution. *909. KUMAR I UMA BHARATI: Will the (d) The concerned States have been Ministerof EXTERNAl AFFAIRS be pleased requested to adopt the Act by passing the to state: required resolutions in their legislatures. (a) whetherthe Government propose to AntI-Militants Operations In Jammu hold any talks with China for taking Indian and Kashmir pilgrims to Kallash; *908. SHRI SHRAVANKUMAR PATEL: (b) If so, by when this facility Is Hkely to SHRlMATI BIBHUKUMARIDEVI: be Introduced; and 33 Written Answers VAtSAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (d) The National Agricultural Cooperative Marketing Federation of India (NAFED) and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been prpcuring onions trom production MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Centres and distributing the same, to various EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) and (b). terminal markets and through its branches Govetnrnent have, since September 1981, .through out Ihe country. been organising a Yatra to Mount Kailash and lake Mansarovar in the Tibet Development of Fisheries in Orissa Autonomous Region of China, for Indian pilgrims, every year. ｾｶ･ｲｮｲｮ･ｮｴ＠ remain in *911. SHRI K. PRADHANI: regular contact with the concerned Chinese SHRI BRAJA KISHORE authorities in regard to the smooth and safe TRIPATHY: conduct of the Yatra. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be (c) Does not arise. pleased to state: [English) (a) the amount sjlnctioned to the Government of Orissa by tbe National Co- Onion Production operative Development Corporation during 1991-92 and 1992-93 forthe development c *910. DR. RAJAGOPAlAN fisheries, project-wise; SRIDHARAN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) whether the Government of Orissa have fully utilised the funds allocated for the (a) whether there has been bumper purpose during 1991-92; onion production in Maharashtra during the current year; (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and (b) if so, the extent 01 increase in onion (d) the details of fisheries development production over the previous year; projects pending with the Union Government' (c) the details of other States where THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH onion production has been above normal; MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHF. and MUlLAPPAll Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) tL (d).1. No amount has been sanctioned to thE (d) the steps taken by the Govemment Government of Orissa by the Nationa, to distribute IRe onion through-out the Cooperative Development Corporation ｾｵｮｴｲｹ＿＠ (NCDC) for the development of fisherieS projects during the years 1991-92 and 1992- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 93. However, upto 31.3.1991, cummulatively, MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI financial assistance of the order of Rs. MUllAPPAllY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to 441.688 lakhs has be", sanctioned to the (c). The final estimates of onion production Government of Orissa against which an for the yeat 1991-92 have not yet become amount of Rs. 62.102 lakhs have been due from the States. However, according to released. During 1991-92, an amount of Rs. available information, the production of onion 29.498 lakhs has been released to the in Maharashtra is reported to be better than Government of Orissa against the sanctions last year (1990-91). issued prior to 1991-92, which has been fully 35 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written AJaswers 36 utilised by the State Government. (iii) The proposal for development of Brackish Water Prawn Culture by 2. Three fishery projects are pending the Mahabir Prawan Farmers consideration wHh NCDC. The details are as Cooperative Society ltd., Cuttack follows:- district at a block cost of Rs. 42.77 lakhs was received in February, (i) During March, 1992, NCDC 1992. the proposal is being received a proposal from processed. Government of Orissa towards purchase of 20 Improved Beach Bhutanese Nationals In India Landing Crafts (IBLCs) by 4 fishermen cooperative societies *912. SHRIMATI DIL KUMARI under Central Sector Scheme. BHANDARI: Will the Minister of HOME Since Govemment of India has AFFAIRS be pleased to state: discontinued the scheme. Since Government of India has (a) whether a large numberof Bhutanese discontinued the scheme for nationals have recently come overto different introduction of IBLCs from 1.4.91, parts of India; NCDC has requested the State Government to confirm whether (b) if so, their estimated number and the proposal could be considered areas of their settlement; and uhder the Centrally Sponsored Scheme for development of (c) the reaction of the Government cooperative marketing, processing, thereto? storage, etc., in under/least· developed States. The reply frtlm THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS the State Govemment has not yet (SHRJ S.B. CHAVAN): (a) T-here has been been received. an influx of persons from Bhutan to India. (ii) A project for fisheries development in (b) It is estimated that about 5000 such 3 irrigation reservoirs namely persons have taken shelter in Jalpaiguri and Salandi, Mandira and Upper Kolab Darjeeling districts of West Bengal. in the districts of Keonjhar, Sundergarh and Koraput (c) The Government are in touch with respectively, with a total water area the Royal Govemment of Bhutan on this of 8780 ha. involving an outlay of matter. Rs:81.84Iakhs was received inthe Corporation during February, 1992 Influx along North Eastern Border duly recommended by the Government of Orissa. The project *913. SHRIRAM NAIK:Wilithe Minister was appraised by NCDC and certain of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: clarifications were asked with regard to cooperative linkages, availability (a) whether some students from of adequate fish seed for stocking Myanmar have taken refuge In India; the . reservoirs, project management, cost etc. On receipt (b) if so, the number thereof; and of this ln1ormatlon, the proposal will be further porcessed. (c) the steps taken/proposed to be taken 37 Written Answers ｖａｉｓｾｋｈａ＠ 17,1914. (SAKA) Written Answers 38 by the Government to stop such influx along scientific cooperation. The Fifth session of north eastern border and to repatriate them? the Indo-Vietnam Joint Commission was held during the visit and identified several THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE areas for bilateral cooperation. The visit MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI gave a boost to Indo-Vietnamese relations EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, and will lead to enhancement of bilateral about 117 students from Myanmar are staying cooperation in many areas, especially in the In India as refugees. field of trade and commerce. (c) According to our information, no Regional and international issues of. further influx of student-refugees is taking mutual interest, Including NAM and potential place. As forthe refugees who are already in role of the United Nations, were also India, it is Government's policy, in view of our discussed. A close identity of views on these sympathy and support for the democratic issues emerged. The Vietnamese Foreign movement of Myanmar, to permit them to Minister reiterated his Government's continue staying in India till. such time as consistent support for India's stand on conditions in Myanmarbecomeconducive to Kashmir. their safe return, provided they do not indulge in political activities during the period of their (c) No, Sir. stay. (d) Does not arise. [ Translation] [English] Visit by Vietnamese MinIster of External Affairs Visit of U.S. Diplomat to Falzabad '914. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the '915. SHRIMATIGEETAMUKHERJEE: MinisterofEXTERNALAFFAIRSbepleased SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: to state: . WiUthe Ministerof EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (a) whether the Vietnamese Minister of be pleased to state: External Affairs had visited India during March, 1992; (a) whether a senior diplomat of the United States embassy in New Delhi recently (b) if so, the bilateral and multilateral visited F aizabad as reported in the Indian matters that figured in his talks with Indian Express dated April 11, 1992; leaders and the outcome thereof; (b) if so, the facts of the case reported (c) whether any agreements were signed in the news-item; and during the visit; and (d) if so, the broad details thereof? (c) the reaction of the Government thereto? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) Yes Sir. (b) Talks were held on the prospects for enhancing bilateral economic, cultural and '. (b) and (t). According to establishect.... 39 Written Answers MAY7, 1992 Written AptSwers 40 diplomatic practice, and consistent with the (a) whether a meeting of ihe Heads of· norms of our open democratic society, States was held in April 1992 to discuss the diplomats accredited to India can legitimately twin issues of environment and development; travel within the country and meet people (b) if so, the outcome thereof; from all walks of life in the discharge of their duties. (cl Whether India had participated in the meeting; Vaccine for Rinderpest (d) if so, the proposals put forward by *917. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR India; and GANGWAR: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (e) the reaction of other representatives thereto? (a) whether the Government have conducledthe trail of bio-technology, vaccine THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to eradicate the rinderpest disease; MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI (b) if so, the outcome thereof; EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) No, Sir. (b) to (e). Do not arise. (c) whetherthe Govemment have taken adequate safeguards before conducting the Import of Kerosene trial; (d) if so, the details thereof; and *919. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (e) when it is proposed to replace the GAS be pleased to state: present issue culture rinderpest vaccine with (a) the quantity 01 kerosene imported vaccinia virus recombenant rinderpest during the last year; vaccine? (b) the rate at which it was imported; and THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. (c) the names of the eoun:ries from LENKA): (a) No, Sir. where the imports were made? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI 8. (c) Does not arise. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (c). About 3.3. MMT kerosene was illllOrted during 1991- (d) Does not arise. 92 at the average rate of approximately US $215 per Ml Kerosene was imported from (e) There is not such proposal. USSR, UAE, Bahrain, Malaysia etc. [ Translation} Visit by President of Ukraine Meeting on Environment and °S20.SHRI PRABHU DAYAL Development KATHERIA: SHRIMATI BHAVNACHIKHALIA: °918. DR. LAL BAHADUR RAWAL: Will the Minister of EXTERNAl AFFAIRS be Wiarhe Ministerof EXTERNAL AFFAIRS pleased to state: be pleased to stat.: 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written AllSwers 42 (a) whether the President of Ukraine [English] visited India recently; Cash Crops (b) if so, the bilateral and multilateral matters that figured in his talks with Indian '921. SHRI VILASRAO NAGNATHRAO leaders and the outcome thereof; GUNDEWAR: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (c) whether any agreements have been signed during the visit; and (a) the total quantity of the cash crops produced in Maharashtra during 1991-92; . (d) if so, the broad details thereof? (b) the total amount of assistance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE provided to Maharashtra for increasing their MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI yield during 1991-92; and EDUARDOFALEIRO):(a) Yes, Sir. President Kravchuk of Ukraine visited India from 25th (c) the steps taken to increase the area to 29th March, 1992. of land under the CUltivation of cash crops in Maharashtra? (b) The two sides discussed ways to further develop and strengthen mutually beneficial cooperation in different fields, as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE also, matters concerning international peace MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI and security, non-alignment, disarmament, MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) etc. The production during 1991-92, of important cash crops is provisionally estimated at (c) Yes, Sir. Sugarcane 387.58 lakh lonnes, Oilseeds 9.25 lakh tonnes, Cotton 12.07 lakh bales, (d) The Indo-Ukrainian Treaty on Onion in 1990-91 - 8.04 lakh tonnes. Friendship and Cooperation, inter-alia, confirms adherence of both sides to the (b) Maharashtra has been provided an common ideals of peace, democracy, non- assistance of Rs. 705.50 lakhs under the violence, human rights and fundamental programme for the oilseeds production freedoms and provides for strengthening of programmes, Rs. 233.371akhs for intensive multifaceted bilateral cooperation. cotton development programme, and 4 Framewof1( agreements were also signed undertakings have been sanctioned loan of on trade and economic cooperation in the Rs. 361.85 lakhs under the Sugar spheres of culture, arts, education, tourism, Development Fund, for sugarcane sports and mass-media; and on scientific & development, by the Department of Food. technological cooperation. (c) The main thrust of Governmental President Kravchuk, during his press assistance has been towards increasing the conference in New Delhi, stated that military production and productivity of the land, under cooperation issues would form a part of the cash crops. The Government of India bilateral cooperation in science and has encouraged the utilisation of Khariffallow, technology adding that such cooperation and emphasis on inter-cropping, and crop was for the benefit of intentional peace and sequencing to encourage the farmers to security. undertake the cultivation of cash crops. 43 Written Answers MAY7,1992 Written Answers 44 Inquiry into Land Deal (b) if so, the facts thereof; 9339. SHRI JEEWAN SHARMA: Will (c) whether any inquiry has been the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased conducted in this regard; to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 3581 on August 30, 1990 (d) if so, the outcome thereof; and regarding inquiry into land deal of Sun Air Hotel and states: (e) the follow-up action takenJbeing taken in this regard? (a) the recommendation made by the Central Vigilance Commission in the matter THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE regarding alleged irregularities in making MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS payment of compensation; AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. (b) the follow-up action taken thereon; JACOB): (a) to (e). Information is awaited from the Government of Jammu and (c) if no recommendation has been Kashmir. made by the cve, the reasons forthe delay; and Alleged IrregularHies In Development works In Tribal areas (d) the steps taken to expedite the rT1?tter? 9341. SHRI BARE LAL JATAV: Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIS.B. CHAVAN): (a) As per information (a) whether the Union Government have received from the New Delhi Municipal received any complaint regarding Committee, the Central Vigilance irregularities being committed in the Commission had advised that the matter be developmentwor1 (b) to {d). In view of (a) above, the (b) if so, the details thereof; and question does not arise. (c) the action taken by the Government £Translation) in this regard? Alleged bungling In barrack THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI construction work In Jammu and SITARAM KESRI): (a) No, Sir. Kashmir (b) and (c). Do not arise. 9340. SHRI SHIV SHARAN VERMA: WiD the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Christian Missionaries pleased to state: 9342. SHRI LALIT ORAON: Will the (a) whether large-scale bungling has Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to taken place In barrack construction worX In state: Jammu and Kashmir as reported in Sunday Mall (Hindi) dated March 1-7-1992; (a) the nurmerof Christian MiSsIonaries . 45 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 registered in India at present, State-wise; (f) if so, the details thereof? (b) the number of such missionaries THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE receiving foreign contributions at present, MINISTRY OF PARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS State-wise; AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFHOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. (c) the details of foreign contributions JACOB): (a) Asperthe information available, received by those missionaries during each 1907 foreign christian missionaries were of the last three years, State-wise; registered in India as on 1.1.91. State-wise break-up is given in the enclosed statement. (d) the countries from which such contributions were received; (b) to (d). Individual Missionaries do not require prior permission for receipt/utilisation (e) whether 'any inquriy has been of foreign contribution under the Foreign conducted to find out the manner in which Contribution (Regulations) Act, 1976. such eontributions were utilised by those missionaries; and . (e) and (f). Does not arise. STATEMENT 1. Andhra Pradesh 113 2. Assam 3 3. Bihar 255 4. Chandigarh 3 5. Delhi 37 6. Goa 13 7. Gujarat 164 8. Haryana 3 9. Himachal Pradesh 18 10. Jammu & Kashmir 7 11. Kamataka 233 12. Madhya Pradesh 62 13, Maharashtra 142 14. Manipur 6 I 47 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 48 15. Meghalaya 64 16. Mizoram. 6 17. Nagaland 17 18. Orissa 36 19. Pondicherry 22 20. Punjab 2 21. Rajasthan 14 22. Sikkim 23. Tamil Nadu 336 24. Uttar Pradesh 144 25. West Bengal 206 Total 1907 [English] EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) to (d). At present there is no operational computer at passport Computers In Passport OffIces offices Cachin, Trivandrum and Kozhikode. A passport control system suitable to 486 9343. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the computers has been developed which is Minister of EXTERNAl AFFAIRS be pleased proposed to be installed 'at some passport to state: offices during 92-93. Feasibility of passport writing by computers is also being examined (a) the number of c0lTl>uters available to minimise time taken in Issuing passports. in passport offices of Cachin, Calicut and Trivandrum; Economising ONGC Style (b) the nuni>er out of these rendered 9344. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: ｾｬ･ｳｳ＠ in these passport offices; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) whether the Government have (a) whelherhis attention has been invited ｲ･｣･ｩｶｾ＠ co"l>laints regarding delay in the to the news Item captioned "Economising, issue of passports from these offices; and ONGC style" appearing in the 'Financial Express', New Deihl dated the 30th March, (d) if so, the steps taken to avoid delay? 1992; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the facts of the matrer reported MINtSTRYOFEXTERNAlAFFAJRS (SHRI therein; and 49 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 (c) the reaction of the Government Production of Foodgralns In North thereto? Eastern States 9346. SHRI RAMA KRISHNA THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND KONATHALA: Will the Minister of NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: SHANKARANAND): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) the demand and production of (b) and (c). Charter hiring of rigs by foodgrains in the North-Eastern States at ONGC has been done afterforelgn exchange present; ｲ･ｬ･ｾ･＠ was cleared by Government. Government takes all precautions to ensure (b) the measures proposed to be taken that no favour Is shown to anyone. to meet the deficit in each State during the Eighth Five Year Plan; 011 Refinery at Daltarlln Orissa (c) whether the Government have 9345. SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: evolved any strategy to boost up agricultural Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND production in these States; and NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether the GuH Oil and Trading THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Corporation has agreed to collaborate with MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI the Indian Oil Corporation in setting up of an MULLAPPAlLY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) oil refinery at Daitari in Orissa; The productiOn 01 Foodgrains in the North- Eastern States is 50.14 lakh tonnes (1990- (b) if so, the details thereof; 91). The Statewise demand has not been worked out by the Planning Commission. (c) the estimated cost and capacity of the refinery; and ': (b) to (d). To supplement the efforts of the State Governments, Central Sectorl (d) whether site has been selected at Centrally Sponsored Scheme such as, Daitari to set up the oil refinery? Integrated Programme lor Rice Development (IPRD); Special Foodgrains Production Programme (SFPP) of Wheat; Special THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Foodgrains Production Programme (SFPP) NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. of Maize and Millete and National Pulses SHANKARANAND): (a) to (d). 10C has Development Programme (NPDP) are being proposed to set up a 6 million tonnes per implemented in the states. These annum capacity grass root refinery in the programmes wiD also continue during the Eastern India during the 8thl9th Plan period, Eighth Five Year Plan. and a site selection committee has been constituted to identify a suitable location. Supply of Gas to Kawas Project The Gulf Oil Trading Compa!ly has shown interest in participating in the setting up 01 the 9347. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the refinery in Eastern India. No decision has Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAl been taken in this regard. GAS be pleased to state: 51 Written Answers MAY 7, 1992 Written AIlswers 52 (a) whether the Gas Authority of India (b) The low yield of wool by Indian Limited is supplying gas to NTPC Kawas Sheep is mainly due to poor genetic make proJect; up, insufficient grazing resources and poor management practices. (b) if not, the reasons therefor: (c) Yes, Sir. (ci whether gas is being supplied to the Reliance Petrochemical Ltd. Unit and the (d) New strains of sheep have been Essar GroupslSponge iron plant is preference developed by Indian Council of Agricultural to Kawas project; and Research and some of the State Governments for improving the quality and (d) if so, the reasons therefor? increasing the production 01 wool by cross breeding of indigenous sheep with superior THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND exoitic breeds. NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND):(a)to(d).Gasissupplied (e) There are 178 sheep breeding to various projects as per allocations, . centres in Rajasthan at prosent. contracts and availability. While some difficulty is envissaged for supply of gas to Agricultural Productivity In Rajasthan the NTPC power project at Kawas, for the present gas is being supplied fortesting and 9349. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE: commissioning purposes. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Cross Brading of Sheeps (a) whether the Government have 9348. SHRI RAM NARAIN BERWA: formulated any comprehensive plan for Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be plesed improving the agricultural productivity in to state: Rajasthan suiting to its geographical conditions; (a) whether the average yield of would per sheep in the country is lower than the (b) if so, the details thereof and yield obtained in other countries; (c) the steps taken to i"lliement the (b) if so, the reasons therefor; plan? (cl whether research efforts are made THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to cross-breed the local varieties of sheeps MINISTRY OF AGRICUL lURE (SHRI with imported rams to increase wool MUllAPPAlLY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) production; Yes, Sir. Government of Rajasthan have formulated comprehensive perspective plan (d) if so, the details thereof;'and for improving agricultural productivity in Rajasthan suiting to its geographical (e) the number of sheep breeding conditions. Centres in Rajasthan as at present? (b) The details are as under:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISffiV OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. (I) Efficient and judicious use of water LENKA): (a) Yes, Sir. mrough lining of field channels 53 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 54 pipelines, popularising ｳｰｲｩｮｫｬ･ｲＯ､ｾ＠ rate in reclamation of problem soils system of Irrigation, ground water and tree plantation on waste land. exploration and water budgeting and crop planning in medium and 5. Promotion of plantation of Bar, major irrigation projects alongwith Pomogranate, Custard-apple,. farmers training. Amala in arid zone of the state and expansion of area undercultivation (ii) Underwaterstressconditions, crop of vegetables, spices and diversifications i.e. popularlsing low condiments, flowers etc., water duty crops instead of high water duty crops. In semi-aid areas, 6. Foropenlng additional retail oU1lats introduction of non-traditional crops in remote areas, registrationsl like TUMBA (Oil Creeper) and licence fee are exempted in case of HENNA (Mehndi). seeds upto 10 quintals andfertllizer upto 10 tonnes of stock at a time. (iii) Populatisation of agro-forestry, Silvi pasture & ALLEY cropping. pperatlonal Research Centres :iv) Reclamation of problem soils and 9350. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA waste land development. GAV!T: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (v) Horticulture development with specific reference to arid-horticulture. (a) whethersome Operational Research Centres have been opened in the rural areas; (vi) Easy availability of inputs at door- step of farmers in remote areas. (b) if so, the number of such Centres estab!lshed so far in the country; State-wise; (c) Steps begin taken are:- • (c) the basis of selection of sites for 1. Incentives are being provided in these Centres; and laying irrigation pipeline/sprinkler/ drip system. Farmers are trained in (d) the places in the Maharashtra where water budgeting and crop planning. such Centres are proposed to be established during 1992-93? 2. Crop diversification is being promoted in water scarce areas and non-traditional remunerative THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . crops like TUMBA and HENNA are DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL being introduced. RESEARCH AND EDUCATION, ANiMAl HUSBANDRY AND DAIRYING IN THE 3. laying out demonstrations and MINISl RY OF AGR!CUL TUftE (SHRI K.C. distribution of seeds under LENKA): (a) Yes, Sir. agroforestry, Silvipasture and Alley crop planning. (b) The total No. of the projects in the country Is 143. The statewise breakup of 4. Gypsum application at subsidies these centres are as under: 55 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 56 1. Andhra Pradesh 11 2. Bihar 11 3. Madhya Pradesh 12 4. Maharashtra 13 5. Orissa 9 6. Uttar Pradesh 17 7. West Bengal 7 8. Gujarat ..11 9. Haryana 10 10. Meghlaya 2 11. Kerala 6 12. Punjab 8 13. Tamil Nadu 14. Rajasthan 11 15. Himachal Pradesh 2 16. Jammu and Kashmir 17. Kamataka 6 18. Assam Total 143 (c) tn case of problem oriented.ORPs. (d) No new operational researc-h centres the site Is selected on the basis of existence are proposed to be established in of location specHic problem like soil salinity, Maharashtra during 1992-93. incidence of crop pest. etc. Development of Inland Asheries For the resource management ORP, the site Is selected In typical rainfed areas 9351. SHRI ARJUN CHARAN SETHI: where harnessing natural resources will Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be iActease farm production. pleased to state: 57 Written Answers VAISAKrv\LJIo 17,1914 Ｈｾｋａｉ＠ I) Wrlltsn AI'I$WSfS 58' (a) the steps taken by tfle Govemment ------Years (in '000 tannes) to increase the production of fish in inland waters; and 1988-89 69.90 (b) the quantum of fish produced in the 1989-90 75.87 inland waters of Orissa during the last three years? 1990-91 83.29 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [ Translation} MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Completion of on-golng proJects under Some of the important steps taken by the ONGC Government to increase the production of fish in inland waters are:- 9352. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (i) extension of area unclerfrestiwater NATURAL GAS be pleased to, stjlte: and brackish water acquaculture mainly through 'centrally Sponsored (a) whetherthere has been a shortfall of Scheme such as Fish Farmers' 7.278 million tonne In the production of crude ｂｲ｡ｾｩｳｨ＠ Development Agency and 011 dueto non-completion of on-golng projects Water Farmers' Development underOil and Natural Gas Commission during Agency programmes; the last three years; (iI) increasing the productivity by (b), if so, the facts in this regard; upgrading the technology and use of improved Inputs; (c) the reasons for the non-completion of these projects in time; and (iii) increased Involvement and encouragement of private sector (d) the time by which each of these for aquaculture and project will be completed? (Iv) Implementation of a World Bank THE MINISTEROFPETROlEUM AND assisted Shrlllll and Fish Culture NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. Project for developing SHANKARANAND): (a) to (d). Information is brackishwater area of about 3800 being collected and will be laid on the Table ha. for shrimp farming In Andhra of the Sabha. Pradesh, Orissa and West Bengal andcleveloplng fish culture In about [English] 51,000 ha. of reservoir,ox-bow lakes in Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, Alleged Sale of Children In Deihl West Bengal, Bihar and Uttar Pradesh from 1992-93 onwards for 9353. DR. Y.S.RAJASEKHARAEDDY: a duration of 7 years at a cost of As. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be 283.00 crores. pleased to state: (b) Fish produced In the Inland waters of (a) whether some Instances of sale of Orissa during the last three years Is:- children at Hart Baba Malar near Jama 59 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written ａｾ＠ wers 60 Maszid in Delhi have come to the notice of (d) the reasons for which GAIL has the Union Government; stopped payment to the consortium since 1989? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (c) the number of persons arrested in NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. this connection during 1990, 1991 and 1992 SHANKARANAND): (a) to (d). There are sofarandthe action taken againstthem; and various disputes between Gas Authority of India Ltd., andtheircontractor, with regard to (d) the number of persons prosecuted the construction of the HBJ pipeline. The during the above period? matter is sub-judice. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Uniform Rates of Commission to (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) The Delhi Police Petroleum Dealers has reported that no such case has come to their notice. 9355. SHRI A. VENKATA REDDY: Will the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) to (d). Do not arise. GAS be pleased to state: Construction of HBJ Gas Pipeline (a) whether the rates of commission offered to the petroleum dealers are uniform; 9354. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (b) if not, the details thereof and the AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: reasons therefor; (a) whether the Gas Authority of India (c) whether the Government have limited has released the retention money received any representation including from after issuing completion certificate including Members of Parliament with regard to the the 90 days Test Run Certificate which increase of the commission to the small and confirms the total integration of the system marginal petrol dealers; and with regard to the construction of the HBJ gas pipeline; (d) if so, the action taken thereon? (b) if so, the reasons therefor; THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND (c) if so, the reasons for which GAIL is NATURAL GAS ,SHRI B. applying liquidated damages to the contractor SHANKARANAND): (a) and (b). Rates of if GAIL is able to sell the full quantity of gas commission available to dealers of MS/HSD that HBJ can transport; and are as follows: Commission (Rs.IKL) Slabs (Volume of sales) MS87 HSD (KhlPer annum) I. 0-350 308 145 II. 361-600 229 101 III. 601-.1080 204 77 IV. Above-l 080 172 70 61 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written AtlSwers 62 Cc) Yes, Sir. pleased to stdte: (d) The matter is underthe consideration of the Government. (a) the names, venues, dates and purpose of International Inter-governmental [ Translation) Conferences during 1991 and 1992 in which the Government was represented at the Exploration of Oil and Natural Gas in Ministers level and at the official level, Bihar separately; and 9356. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will (0) the names, venues, dates and the the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND NATURAL purpose of International non-governmental GAS be pleased to state: Conferences in which the Government (a) the places in Bihar selected for the sponsored delegates and non-official exploration of petroleum and natural gas and delegates participated, separately? also the places where exploration work has been started and the quantum of these THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE products likely to be drilled out therefrom; MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI and EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) and (bl. The information is being compiled and will be (b) the action being taken to start the placed on the table of the House. drilling work at 'Dullapatti' in Madhubani district. Rakhsol of Champaran district and Grant of Pension to Arya Sama] other places? Movement Freedom Fighters THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND 9358. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. HOODA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS SHANKARANAND): (a) Apart from geo- be pleased to state: scientific surveys 5 exploratory wells viz. Raxaul-1, Purnea-1, Madhubani-1, Gandak- (a) whether the Supreme Court in a Writ 1 and Ganauli-1 have been drilled. Drilling at Petition (Civil) No. 75 of 1991 has directed welf Kadmaha-1 in West Champaran District that freedom fighters who participated in the is in progress. Seismic surveys are also Arya Samaj Movement be granted pension being carried out near purnea. No with effect from August 1, 1980; hydrocarbons have been found so far. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) Wells Madhubani-l and Raxaul-1 have been drilled in Madhubani and (c) the action taken by the Government Champaran districts respectively and no thereon? encouraging results were otabinedto pursue further exploration in the area. THE MINISTRY OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS [English] AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIM.M. International Non-Governmental JACOB): (a) to (c). Writ Petition (Civil) was Conferences filed in the Supreme Court by Shri Suraja Singh and 54 others who participated in the 9357. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDOIN: Will Arya Samaj Movement of 1938-39 and the Minister of EXTiflNAL AFFAIRS be convicted for six months or more but released 63 Written Answers MAY 7, 1992 WItten AM...,. 64 by the authorities on their own on the birthday seasons and situations have been developed. 1 of Nizam of Hyderabad be!!>re completing their sentences seeking the directions of the Under the centrally sponsored 'Oilseed Hon'ble Court for grant of pension. Hon'ble Production Programme (OPP)', financial Supreme Court In )helr judgment dated support Is provided for basic Inputs, plant 13.9.1991 have gTv8h directions that these protection measures, Improved farm freedom fighters be granted pension with IlJl)Iements and demonstrations. effect form 1.8.1980. Criteria for allotment of LPG Agency On receipt of the copy of the judgment immediate action was Initiated to process 9360. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN: Will the . the cases of the persons involved. So far, Minister of PETROlEUM AND NATURAL pension has been sanctioned to 26 persons GAS be pleased to state the normslCtlleria who could furnish IdentHicatlon Documents prescrbKlforalotlng a LPG agency, selecting complete In all respects. Pension to remaining the site for allotment and identifying the persons Is to be sanctioned on receipt of areas of jurisdiction 01 the distributor? necessary Identification Documents complete in all respkis. THE MINISTEROFPETROlEUM AND National Ollseeds Research Centres NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): As per present policy 9359. SHRI DHARMABHIKSHAM: Will new LPG agencies are opened In a phased the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased manner at different locations including to state: rTUIicipaItownshaving apopulation of 20,000 and above depending upon the economic (a) whether the Govemment propose to viabUity and availability of products etc. set up National Oilseeds Research Centres Selection of all dealers are canied out as per in various parts of the country; Industry Guidelines under various categories through approved Selection Boards and also (b) if so, the location identified thereof; at the discretion of Government. and Th. marketing area of a dealer Is (c) the efforts made to Increase generally confined within the ｮＱｮｾ＠ IImIIs production of oilsgeds In the country? of the town; and the size of the mar1cet and number of dealers operating In the area etc. < THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Further LPG distrbutors In aU hilly markets MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. and those distrbltors operating In urban LENKA): (a) and (b). Sir, The Indian CouneU areas who do not reach economically Viable of Agricwhural Research (ICAR) Is to set up level of op8ralionduetoInadeqUate potential a National Research Centre on Rapeseed- after 2 completed years are permitted to Mustard at Bharatpur, Rajasthan. NatIonal provide connections within the radius of 15 Research Centres for Groundnut and Kms. Soybean ｡ｬｾｾｾ＠ exist at Jun.dh and Indore ｲ･ｳｰＸ｣ｴｩｶｾｬｹＮ＠ Crop ＱｮＸｵｾ＠ Scheme Cc) A nwnOfr of improved varieties wlh 9361. SHRIMATI BASAVA ｉＧＸｓｬｳｴ｡ｮ｣･ｴＹｾｲ｢ｩｯｴｩ｣｡ｮ､｡｢ｩｯｴｩ｣ｳｴｴ･＠ .... RAJE&WARI: Will the Minlst., of and sultablafOftradillonaland non-tradltional AGRICUL TUREbe pleased to state:. 65 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 (a) whether the Government propose to of the Governing Body of Indian COuncil of include more crops underthe comprehensive Cultural Relations; and crop Insurance scheme and also to increase the area under this scheme; (b) the salient featu res of the constitution of the Body and the mode of selection of its (b) if so, th'e details thereof; and Member? (c) the total outstanding claims payable THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under the scheme so f.ar? MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) 1\ Statement I Is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE attached. MINISTRY OF AGRICUL lURE (SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) (b) A Statement II is attach,ad. and (b). There is no propos.il to cover more crops under the exisitng Comprehensive STATEMENT-I Crop Insurance. Scheme (CCIS). The CCIS. is an area based voluntary scheme aild Dr. Shanker Dayal Sharma . implementing State GovernmentslUTs. are Vice President of India freee to ntaify any area for an insured crop President ICCR under the scheme provided they have past yield data as also the capability of conducting Shrl J.J. Dixit 16 Crop cutting experiments at the end of Foreign Secretary every season. Thus. it is forthe implementing Vice President. ICCr Sta1eIlJT Administration to take necessary action for increasing the area under the Sot. Pupul Jayakar CCIS. However, keeping in view the demands VICe President, ICCR of the implementing States/UTs. to include more crops. it has recently been decided that Shri H.Y. sharada Prasad while the exisitng scheme in the presentform . Vice President, ICCR may continue. a pilot scheme coveri"9 aU farmers and all crops against all risks. may Smt (Dr) Najma Hoptulla, Member of be implemented in one distrW;t or every the Rajya Sabha StatesllJ.T. charging actuarial rates of Deputy Chairman premia. Action has since been initiated to Rajya Sabha formulate the,proposed scheme. Shri Arvind Trivedi, Member of the Lok (c) The total outstanding claims so far Sabha which are yet to be paid und.er the Comprehensive Crop Insuranca sCheme Sot Blbhu Kumar! Devi, Member of the (CCIS) are to the tune of As. 291.75crore. LokSabha ｾｯｶＮｲｭｮｧ＠ Body of ICCR Dr. O.P.Chattopadhya Calcutta 9362. SHRI KRISHAN DUTT SUL T ANPURI: Will the Minister of ·Shri M.J. Akbar EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Shit AnD Bardla Shri Bhaskar Ghosh (iv) . Financial Advisor; Secretary (Culture), Gov!. of India (v) Three members nominated by the Dr (Smt) Kapila Vatsyayan Government of India from among Secretary their nominees on the General Indira Gandhi National Centre tor Arts. Assembly; Smt Meera Kumar (vi) Nine members to be elected by the General Assembly form amongst Shri K.A. Chandrasakhran its memebrs of whom at least one Additional Secretary (Financlcli Advisor) shall be a member of the Rajya ' Ministry of External Affairs Sabha and two of the Lok Sabha. Dr. Lokesh Chandra Thrift and Credit Societies In Deihl Director International Akademi of Indian Culture. 9363, SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Smt. Mallika Sara bhai Director (a) the number of Registered Darpana Akademi of Arts Cooperative Thrift and Credit Societies functioning in Delhi as on date; Dr. Man Mohan Singh Finance Minister (b) whether the number of Thrift and New Delhi Credit Societies have failed to call their Annual General Meetings for over five years Prof. C. Narayana Reddy of their existence; Vice Chanceller Telugu University (c) if so, the number of Societies which Hyderabad have not held A,G,M" and Smt. Veena Sikri (d) the action taken/proposed to be OO,ICCR taken against these Societies? Secretary of the Governing Body THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE STATEMENT-II MINISTRY OF AGRICUL lURE (SHRI ｍｕｌｬｾｐｐａｌｌ＠ Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) As on date there are 1179 registered Thrift & The Constitution of the ICCR, a copy of Credit Societies in Delhi. Out of which 800 which is placed in the Parliament Library, are functioning and the remaining are in Clause 7 provides for the Governing dormant or defunct. Body to consist of the following members: (b) to (d), Calling A,G,M. is the duty of (i) President the Secretary of the concerned Society according to the provision 'Contained in the (ii) Three Vice-Presidents; Act & Rules in this regard. In case any complaint is received about failure to call the (iii) Secretary; AGM by the Secretary, question of convening 69 Writtef\Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 requisition meeting is considered by the Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be Registrar of Cooperative Societies, Delhi. pleased to state: No such request has been received by the Registrar of Cooperative Societies. Delhi (a) the number of Islands in the country from the functioning Thrift and Credit whicr have no human population; Societies, Delhi from the functioning Thrift and Credit Societies for convening such (b) whether the Government propose to requisition meeting. rehabilitate ex-service-men and other progressive unemployed youths there with a LPG Agencies In Sub-Divisional view to develop these' islands; and Headquarters (c) if so, the details thereof? 9364. SHRI DATTATRAYA BANDARU: THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS SHRI ANNA JOSHI: (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) to (c). The information is being collected and will be laid Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND on the Table of the House. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Cultural Centres (a) the number of sub-divisional headquarters in the country where LPG 9366. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: agencies have not been opened so far, SHRI BALRAJ PASSI: State-wise; Will the Ministerof EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) whetherthe Government propose to be pleased to state: open LPG agencies in all the sub-divisional . headquarters in the country; and (a) the names of countries where India has set up cultural centres; (c) if so, the details alongwith the time- schedule thereof? (b) the salient features of the functions of these Centres and the results achieved by THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND Ihese Centres; NATURAL GAS (SHRI B, SHANKARANAND): (a) This information is (c) whetherthe Government propose to not maintained by the Government. setup more cultural centres in othercountries; (b) to (c). LPG Agencies are opened in (d) if so, the details thereof; and a phased manner at different places in the country including Sub-Divisional (e) the amount earmarked for this Headquarters having a population of 20,000 purpose during Eighth Five Year Plan? and above and depending upon the economic viability, availability of product etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Islands without human population EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) and (b). Indian Council for Cultural Relations has established 9365. SHRIMATI RITA VERMA: cultural Centres in Cairo (Egypt), Berlin SHRIMATI DIPIKA H. TOPI (Germany), Georgetown (Guyana), Jakarta WALA: (Indonesia), Port Louis (Mauritius), Moscow 71 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written A'f1$Wers' 72 (Russia), Paramaribo (Suriname) and Bilkhawtalir was drilled to a depth of 3001 m. London (U.K.) and was abandoned as it was dry. The Centres develop and maintain [ Translation) contacts with wide cross sections of local citizens including students, teachers, scholar, Bilateral friendship agreement with cultural personalities, universities and allied Germany institutions. They are equipped with books, audio-cassettes, video-tapes, musical 9368. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: instruments and staffed ｷｩｴｾ＠ professional Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be teachers and artists. The Centres have pleased to state: brought about a greater awareness and appreciation of India's Cultural heritage in (a) whetherthe Government propose to the countries of their operation. sing any bilateral frie11dship agreement with Germany; and (c) to (e). All proposals for setting up new cultural centres are examined on merits (b) if so, the details thereof and the time keeping in view availability of financial by which it is likely to Signed? resources. There is no amount earmarked ｦｯｾｳｵ｣ｨ＠ purpose during the Eighth Five Year THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Plan. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI EOUARDO FALEIRO): (a) No, Sir. 011 and Natural Gas In MlZoram (b) Does not arise. 9367. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM ANO NATURAL GAS be [EngliSh] pleased to state: Damage caused by loktak Hydro- (a) whether any possibility of availability Electric Project of oil and natural gas has been found in Mizoram; 9369. SHRI KABINDRA PURKAYASTHA: Will the Minister of (b) if so, the details alongwith names of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: such areas; (a) whether floods inundate agricultural (c) whether drilling has been Paddy fields and village of the Bishmpur and commenced at the Bilkhawtalir; and Jhonbal districts of Manipur annually after the completion of Loktak Hydro-electric (d) if so, the details thereof? . project; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, the area of agricultural Patta NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. lands and villages inundated so tar; SHANKARANAND): (a) So tar, no oil and natural gas has been discovered in Mizorarn. Cc) whether the Government has any Plan to compensate the owners of agricultural (b) Does not arise. Patta lands and villages thus inundated; and (c) and Cd). A well Rengte-1 near Cd) if so, the details thereof? 73 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written AlVwers 74 , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ichapur-1 where testing Iscontinuing. 2 blocks MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI on on land and 3 blocks in ｯｦｦｳｴＱｾ＠ had been MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) The offered to the Indian and loreign private Loktak Hydro -electric Project uses the waters companies under the 4th Round of Bidding. of the Loktak lake which is a natural lake and (c) No, Sir_ no artificial reservoir has been constructed lor the project As such, the project will not (d) Does not arise. submerge any additional land. Sale of Vlkas Patra for LPG (b) to (d). Do not arise. Connections [ Translation] 9371. SHRINAWALKISHORERAI: SHRI RAM SAGAR: Utilisation of Gas leaking from wells of borat In West Bengal Will the Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 9370. SHRI RAM BADAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (a) whether the attention of the GAS be pleased to state: Government has been drawn to the news- item captioned, ''Gas connection ke leaye (al whether attention of the Government vikas patra khareednen ki sharat se preshani" has been drawn to the news item captioned, appearing in daily Jansatta dated February "Pashchim Bengal Mei Saudi Arab Se Adhic 8,1992; Tail" appearing in daily 'Janvarta' published Irom Varanasi on January IS, 1992; (b) whether any action has been taken by the Government against the agents who (bl il so, the details of the action taken have been selling on the Vikas Patra valued by the Government in this regard; at 2001- for Rs. 250 in large-scale; and (c) whether the gas is still leaking Irom (c) if so, the details thereof? the excavated well of Borat in West Bengal posting a threat to the ｾｦ･＠ and property of the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND people; and NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (alto (c). Oil Companies (d) if so, the details of the programmes have reported that the District Authority.at chalked out by the Government to utilise the Jaipur had issued an order advising all the leaking gas? distributors in Alwa"rto make booking for new gas connections against Vikas Patra. On the THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND instance 01 the Oil Companies, the State NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. Government has with-drawn the orders. SHANKARANAND): (al Yes, Sir. [English] (b) Exploration in Bengal basin was started in 1949 and it still continuing. Besides Consumption ot Petroleum Products extensive geoscientilic surveys, 41 exploratory wells have already been drilled 9372. SHRI HARISINH CHAVDA: Will which proved to be dry. Indications 01 oil the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND NAruRAl have been observed in a well unde; drilling at GAS be pleased 10 state: 75 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Af1$wers 76 (a) the total production of petroleum (FigS. in MMT) products in the country during the last three years; 1989-90 50.078 (b) the petroleum products consumed 1990-91 50.086 by different petroleum consuming sectors during the last three years and Sector-wise; ·1991-92 50.425 (c) whether the production target had • Provisional been achieved during these years; and (b) Sectorwise consumption of some (d) if not, the reasons therefor? major petroleum products for 1989-90 and 1990-91 is given in the enclosed Statement. Sectorwise details of consumption during THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND 1991-92 are not yet available. NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. (c) Yes, Sir. SHANKARANAND): (a) Total production of petroleum products: (d) Does not arise. STATEMENT Estimated Sectorwise consumption of some Major Petroleum products during 1989-90 & 1990-91 (Figs. in TMT) SKO 1989-90 1990-91 Railways 11.22 10.30 Other Direct consumers 277.63 288.32 Consumption through Resellers 7949.74 8124.29 Total 8238.59 8423.00 LPG Domestic 1810 1894 Commercial/industry 422 487 Others 36 34 Total 2268 2415 77 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 78 (Figs. in TMT) SKO 1989-90 1990-91 -----__.. NAPTHTHA Fertilizers 1835 1842 Petro-chemicals 842 766 Others 673 838 Total: 3350 3446 HSD Transport (including agriculture retail trade) 18341 18813 Plantatationffood 270 318 Power generation 126 104 Industry 1512 1431 w Others 457 473 Total 20706 21139 [ Translation] 01 control between India and Pakistan; and Fencing along actual line of control (c) the time by which the necessary between India and Pakistan fenCing is likely to be erected? 9373. SHRI SIMON MARANOI: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRIMATI SHEELA GAUTAM: MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS SHRI RAJESH KUMAR: AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be JACOB): (a) Yes, Sir. pleased to state: (b) As the name suggests, the Line of (a) whether no lencing has been erected Control is based upon the territory actually on the line of actual control between India under the control of India and Pak'istan and Pakistan in Poonch area; recognised by the two governments as per the Simla Agreement. (b) if so, the basis on which the Government of India identify the actual line (c) There are no plans. for the present. 79 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 80 Subsidy on LPG for domestic purposes . (b) whether as per agreement with the owners whoseiand has been acquired, one 9374. DR. LAL BAHADUR: Will the person each 01 their families was to be given Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL job; GAS be pleased to state: (c) If so, the number of the persons . (a) whether subsidy is being provided by given jobs so far; the Government on LPG for domestic purpose; (d) the reasons for not providing jobs to the persons of the remaining families; and (b) if so, the cost price per cylinder; (e) the steps the Government propose (c) the separate details of the to take to provide jobs to the persons of the Government duties, transportation and remaining families? administrative expenditure included in this cost price: THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (d) whetherthe Government have taken NATURAL 'GAS (SHRI B. any steps to bring down the cost price; and SHANKARANAND): (a) Yes, Sir. (e) if so, the extent to which the cost (b) to (e). ICC has reported that tlfere price is likely to decline as a result thereof? was no such agreement to provide any job to the land owners. However, 18 such persons THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND have been provided with jobs .• NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) Yes, Sir. Thefts In Deihl (b) and (c). The cost of production and 9376. SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA its various elements vary from unit to unit. MUNDA: Will the Ministerof HOME AFFAIRS Retail price ineludesex-st.orage price, freight. be pleased to state: dealer's commission, local levies and taxes and varies from place to place. (a) whether cases of thefts in Deihl have been increasing for the last several years: (d) and (e). While the major eOfll)Onent of the cost of production is the cost 01 raw (b) If so, whether this is happening In material, constant efforts are made to if'1l)rove connivance with some personnel of Delhi the operations of the producing units in order Police and smack and drug addicts; :0 reducing the processing costs. (c) whether the Government propose to Jet) to persons whose land acquired by conduct an inquiry in this regard; and Indian 011 (d) if so, the details thereof? 9375. SHRI MADAN lAl KHURANA: lViR the Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND .JATURAl GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) The number of (a) wtpther land 0' village Ghewara, cases of theft reporIed in the last three years )efhi has been acqulr8d for the Indian Oil; is as follows: . 81 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAK19 Written Answers 82 (a) whi!therthe Government are aware Year No. or eases ot the participation by Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs) tromall overtheworld, 1989 12335 which are involved in spheres such as Eco- health, sustainable agriculture, development, 1990 12217 enVironment, etc, in the forthcoming earth summit at Rio De Jeneriro; 1991 13145 (b) If so, the details thereof; (b) The Delhi PoliCe have informed that the cases of thefts occurring in Delhi are not in connivance with police personnel. In so far (c) whether the Govemment propose to as the connivance of smack and drug addicts ensure strong·NGOs presence from India; 1$ concerned the Delhi Police has steted that no such record is available. (d) if not, the reasons thereof; (c) and (d). There is no such proposal (e) if so, whether the Government under consideration. propose to provide any financial or any other assistance; and Nexus amo9t Palclstan. Militants and Aksll. (t) if so, the details thereof? 93n. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: SHRI SUKHENDU KHAN: THE MINISTER OF ST,('rE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Will the Minister at HOME AFFAIRS be eDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) to (f). Non- pleased to state: Governmental Organisations from various parts of the world be participating in the UN (a) whether the Govemment have any Conference on Environment and Information regarding the O8ICUS amongst Developm9nt to be held in Rio de Janeiro Pakistan, militants andAkalis on the question from 3-14 June 1992, as al$o in a series 01 of boycott of elections in Punjab; and other parallal avents to be held simultaneously, including the 1992 Golobal (b) if so. the details thereof? Forum. While many Indian HaOs would bE participating In these events, the Govemmen' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE does not intend providing financial assistancE MINISTRVOFPARLIAUENTARV AFFAIRS for such participation. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRVOFHOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. [ Translation} JACOB): (a) and (b). Facts are being ascertained and will be laid on the Table of laying of pipeline for supply of natural the House. Gas In SQuth Indl. [English) 9379. . OR. MAHADEEPAK SING, SHAKVA: NOO'.1it Earth Summit SHRt NrrlSH KUMAR: 9378. DR. R, MALLU: WIll the Minister WiU the Minister of P.ETROlEUM ANI of EXTERNAL AFFAIRSbe pleased to 1t1ll8: NATURAl GAS be pleased to state: 83 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 84 (a) whether the Committee constituted both foreign and Indian companies at varying in May, 1990 to examine the feasibility of the rates raging from about US$ 7000 to US$ laying of pipeline forthe supply of natural gas 29000 per day. The total amount paid during in South India has submitted its report; the last 3 years for these rigs works out to about Rs. 899 crores. (b) if so, the details of the recommendations made by the said (d) A total of about Rs. 35 crores of dues Committees; and are still outstanding for various reasons. The dues are expeCted to be cleared very early. (c) the action taken to implement the recommendations? LPG Cylinders THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND 9381. SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA NATURAL GAS (SHRI B.' RAO VADDE: Will the Minister of SHANKARANAND}: (a) to (c). The report of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be the Committee has been received, and is pleased to state: being examined. (a) whether the attention of the Govemment has been drawn to the news [English] item captioned "Foraging for LPG cylinders" appearing in the Indian Express (Vijayawada Hiring of Rigs Edition) dated January 28, 1992; 9380. SHRI S.B. THORAT: Will the (b) if so, the facts thereof and whether Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA ruRAL an enquiry has been conducted into the GAS be pleased to state: matter; (a) the number of rigs hired by the Oil (c) if so, the action taken against the and Natural Gas Commission during each of persons found guilty; and the last three years; (d) the measures taken to protect the (b) the details of companies and contract interests of the consumers? 'rate on which these are hired; THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (c) the amount paid during the soid NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. period; and SHANKARANAND): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) the details of dues still pending and (b) and (e).-IOC and BPC have carried Che action proposed to be taken to clear the out investigations with reference to this news 'ejues? item. No specific case of malpractice by the dealers has been established. It has been THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND reported by these two companies that they -.JATURAL GAS (SHRI B. have taken various steps to ensure adequate :;HANKARANAND): (a) Different number of availability of LPG refills promptly in igs opeate under charter hire at different Vijaywada. Joints of time. As on 1.5.1992,30 rigs were fm charter hire. (d) Regular and surprise inspections are being constantly carried out to monitor (b) and (c). These rigs were hired from the working of the LPG Distributors. 85 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKAI Written AIlS wers 86 Inquiry report on Death of Former Chief (b) if so, the details IS thereof and Justice of India decisions arrived at the Conference? 9382. SHRIINDERJIT:WilltheMinister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI SITARAM KESRI): (a) A Conference of (a) whether the Government had Revenue Ministers of States on land reforms received the inquiry report on the cause of was held on 14th March, 1992. The death of the former Chief Justice of India in Conference was convened by the Ministry of london; Rural Development. (b) if sO,\the broad findings thereof; (b) Information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) if not, the reasons thereof; [ Trans/ation] (d) whether the lawyers Forum for Civil Liberties had sought any judicial enquriy into Artificial Limbs Manufacturing the matter; and Corporation of India (e) if so, the reaction of the Government 9384. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: thereto? SHRI VISHWANATH SHASTRI: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of WELFARE be MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI pleased to state: EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) No, sir. Not yet, as the enquiry is not complete. (a) whetherthe Union Government have received any complaint against the Artificial (b) Does not arise. Limbs Manufacturing Corporation of India; (c) The inquiry is still in progress. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (d) Yes, Sir. (c) the action taken thereon? (e) The inquiry by a retired Judge of the Supreme Court had already been isntituted THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI and is in progress. SfTARAM KESRf): (a) Yes, Sir. Conference on Distribution of Surplus (b) The Ministry of Welfare has received Land to SCs/STs and Backward a number of complaints alleging mis- Classes management of funds given under the Aids and Appliances Scheme of the Ministry, 9383. SHRI K.H. MUNIYAPPA: Will the improper purchase procedure, irregularities Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: in appointment of dealers and irregularities in general management of the Company. (a) whether any Conference of State Revenue Ministers on the subject of (c) The Ministry has instituted an Inquiry distribution of surplus land to SCs/STs and into the complaints. The Inquiry Report which backward classes was held recently in New has since been received is begin examined delhi; and ;jnd further investigation has been ordered. , 87 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 88 [Eng/ish) 12. MOhd. Hasan Commander. Advisory Council In Jammu and The Council is to inform and advise·the Kashmir Governor on Important political, social, economic and development matters, and 9385. gHRI MORESHWAR SAVE: Will policy measures regarding redressaJ of public the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased grievaneas and promotion of peace, security to state: and harmony In the State. (a) whether a State level Advisory Naxallte Infested Areas Council has been set up in Jammu & Kashmir; and 9386. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI SINGH: (b) if so, the composition and functions DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: thereof? Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRYOFPARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Government have MINISTRYOFHOMEAFFAIRS(SHRIM.M. identified the ｮ｡ＩＨｾｬｩｴ･＠ infested areas in JACOB): (a) Yes, Sir. different States; (b) The 12 non-official members of the (b) if so, the details of those areas, Council are:- State-wise; and 1 . Moulvi Htikhar Hussain Ansari (c) the steps taken to ensure safety and - security of the people in those areas? 2. Mian Bashir Ahmed . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 3. Shri Mohammad Shari Bhat MINISTRYOF PARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4. Shri thupstao Chhewang. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. JACOB): (a) to (c). Andhra Pradesh and 5. Prof. Chaman Lal Gupta. Bihar are the worst affected States by naxaJite activities. The nexalltes have pockets of 6. Shri G.R. Kar. influence in Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Kerala, Kamataka, Tamil Nadu and 7. Shri P. Narrgiyal. West Bengal. 'PublIc Order' being a State subject, It is for the State Governments to 8. Babu Parmanand. devise various methods and take concrete steps to Improve law and order sltuatlon as 9. Shri Mangat Ram Sharma. weI for providing security to the citlzens wherevernec:essary. AllpouIbIeaaaistance 10. 5M M.Y. Tarlgaml IabelngprovldedbytheCentralGoYernment - to the States concerned when requlreH In 11. shrt M.M. Wazlr. this reg8ld. 89 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Wrltt9n Answers 90 Food Aid under World Food Militant outfits In Assam In contact Programme with foreign Countrle. 9387. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: 9388. SHRI R.SURENDER Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be REDDY: pleased to slale: SHRICHITTA BASU: (a) whether the Government have Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be received food aid under the World Food pleased to state: Programme for workers involved,in forestry in Bihar, Orrisa and Madhya Pradesh; (a) whether ULFA and other militant outfits in Assam have been In close contact (b) if so, the criteria adopted for selection with foreign countries especially Pakistan, of States for allocation of such aid; Bangladesh and Myanmar; (c) whether the workers engaged in (b) whether these outfits are receiving forestry in other States are also likely te> arms and ammunition and other kind of receive food aid under this Programme; and assistance from these countries; (d) if so, the details thereof? (c) if so, whetherthe Union Government have taken upthe matterwiththosecountries; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (d) if so, the details and the outcome MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDARAN): (a) thereof? Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The State Governments desirous of MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS availing foOd aid under World Food AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Programme (WFP) for development and MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI nutritional and feeding programmes and for M.M. JACOB): (a) The ULFA have their socio-economic development of largetted camps bases In Bangaladesh and Myanmar. groups of people and backward areas, are There are reports of their contacts with required to identify and formulate project Pakistan. proposals and submit the same to WEP (b) There are reports to this e11ect. thorugh the Union Ministry of Agriculture for approval (c) and (d). The matter has been taken up with these countries at various levels, (c) and (d). Besides Bihar. Orissa and They have, however, denied that any such Madhya Pradesh, workers engaged in assistance is being provided. forestry activilies in the States of Gujarat. Kerala Maharashtra. Rajaslhan and Uttar Loans to all India Welfare Organisation Pradesh are also receiving food aid under World Food Programme. Aidforother States 9389. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR can be considered by WFP on the basis of SHANTRI: Will the Minister of WELFARE be project proposals. pleased to state: 91 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 92 (a) whetherihe Bye-laws of the National THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes SITARAM KESRI): (a) Yes. Sir. Finance and Development Corporation provide loans and lending facilities to (b)to(d).AManagerofNSFDCA visited Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes without Hyderbad, Guntur and I sundur Vilage from any security: and 27th to 30th August. 1991. He recommended acquisition of land for allotment to affected (b) if so. reasons for not releasing the families, set1ing up of small businesses/ loa ns already sanctioned during the last industries, assistance for taking up three years for want of Government horticulture animal husbandry and guarante\;. to All India Welfare Organ isation pisciculture activities providing 50% subsidy of Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes, from Government 25% margin money loan baclwards and minorities? and 25% regular ioan from NSFDC at concessional rate of interest. The report THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI containing the recommendations was sent SITARAM KESRI): (a) and (b). Clause 21 of to Andhra Pradesh Scheduled Castes Regulation III B of the Memorandum of Cooperative Finance Corporation Association permits NSFDC to lend money (APSCCFC) on 20-11-91 for formulating with or without security upon such terms as schemes forthe benefit of the victims of 6th may be thought proper. The board of NSFDC August. 1991 incidents. It is being pursued have decided that loans should be disbursed by NSFDS. , after receiving guarantees. World Food Programme No application for a loan has been received from the All India Welfare 9391. SHRI RAM KAPASE: Will the Organisation of Scheduled CasteslTribes, Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to beckwards and Minorities by NSFDC. state: Visit of NSFDC officers to Chundur (a) whether the Government have entered into an agreement with U.S.A under 9390. SHRI KHELAN RAM JANGDE: the "World Food programme". Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether some atHeNS of National (c) the details of the steps ｴ｡ｫｾｮ＠ to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ensure that sufficient stock of commodities Ftnance and Development Corporation proposed to be exported under this (NSFDC) had visited Chundur in the /Gantur Programme is reserved for the local District of Andhra Pradesh to conduct a consumption in the country at the prices study on rehabilitation of victims of August 6, prevailing prior to this agreement? 1991 incidents: (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (c) whether they have submit1ed any MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) No report in this regard; and Sir. (d) if so, the action tar-en thereun? (b) and (c). Question does not arise. 93 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKAI Written Answers 94 Extradition of Fonner Chairman of state: Union Carbide (a) whether the Government propose to 9392. SHRI CHinA BASU: Will the plant more fruit bearing trees in various parts Minister of EXTERNAL AFF AI RS be pleased of the country during 1992-93; to state: (b) if so, the States ideitified for the (a) whetherthe Government propose to purpose; and seek the extradition of the former Chairman of the Union Carbine (India) Ltd. inconnection (c) the area under mango plantation, with the triak on Bhopal Gas Tragedy; State-wise? (b) of so, the details thereof; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL, AFFAIRS (SHRI Yes, Sir. EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) to (c). The matter is under examination. (b) Under the ongoing Central Sector Schemes and Schemes of the National [ Translation} Horticulature Board, it is proposed to cover all major fruit growing in the country. Plantation of Fruit Bearing Trees (c) The estimated area under mango 9393. DR. PR. GANGWAR: Will the plantation in major mango growing States is Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to given in the attached statement. STATEMENT Sate-wise Area under mango Plantation (1988-89) Area in Heaetare Name of State Area 1. Andhra Pradesh 178946 2. Bihar 144204 3. Goa 3359 4. Gujarat 31000 5. Haryana 7204 6. Kamataka 63597 7 Kerala 67532 95 Wrillffl!_ Answers MAY 7,1992 . Written Answen 96 Name of State Area 8. Madhya Pradesh 21579 9. Maharashta 3S40Q. 10. Manipur 1380 11. Mizoram 78 12. Orissa 92198 13. Punjab 10537 14. Rajansthan 7689 15. Sikkim 50 16. Tamil Nadu 44748 17. Tripura 4892 18. Uttar P.radesh 255456 19. West Bengal 54400 [EngliSh) (b) The Amesty international Report on 'India-Torture. Rape and Deaths is Custody' Amnesty Report which resorts to sweeping and unsubstatialed generalisation, is grOssly exaggerated and 9394. OR. RAJAGOPAlAN presents a one-sided and biased picture of SRIDHRAN: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL the human rights situation prevailing in India. AFFAIRS be pleased to state: ( Translation) (a) whether attention ofthe Government has been drawn to the new-Item appeared in Harassment of Girts In Schools In Deihl the Indian Express dated March 25. 1992 regarding Amnesty Intemationars recent on 9395. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will India; and the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) if so. the reaction ofthe Government Year No of cases (c) the steps taken to bring down the price of tender coconuts in Delhi? 1989 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1990 MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI' MUllAPPALlY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to 1991 (c)_ According to the Information receIVed from the Agriculture Produce Marketing 1992 -(upto 16.4.92) Committee, Azadpur, Delhi Admintration there Is an upward trend in prices of tender cocont4. The increase in wholesle prices of (b) The Delhi Police ｨ｡ｾｰｯｲｴ･､＠ that te_coconut is mainly due to increase both the cases have been solVed and are /tallway-rrelghl and the lnease In the rates of pending trial in the Courts. . packing materials. Prices of tender coconuts In Deihl are not being controlled. (c) Four persons have been arrested. Rohlnga Refugees (d) The following steps have been taken to prevent such incidents: 939/. SHRI RAM CHANDRA GHANGARE:WUIthe Minister of EXTERNAL (l) The Crime Against Women Cell AFFAIRS be pleased to state: organises drives against eve- teasing andhlolestation of women. (a) whether Rohinga muslims of Myanmar have taken refuge In India; ｾｩｪＩ＠ 'PCRV'anslMotorCyclesandpicket staff take prompt and immediate (b) " so. the assistance being provided adion )Yhenever such an incident to these refugees; , cqrneS'to notice. (c) the measures being taken by the (Ill) Ｎｾ＠ patrolling at bus stands, Govemment to repatriate these refugees to M ..Ｌｾｊ･ｧ･ｓ＠ etc. Is done. Myanmar; (tv) . P.iitndothedstall Is also deployed Cd) whetllerthe Govemment propose to in ｵＭｾ＠ buses. ralIe .... Issues at th" UN; and 99 Written Answerc MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 1 00 (e) if so, the ､･ｴｾＱ＠ :s thereof? (c) I' IS proposed to raise the area under SOy"I,,-,an to 1 0, 000 ha. during 1992·93 THE MINIS I i H OF STATE IN THI :1 vlll it1e present negligible area. MINIS I HY 01 LA 1E.RNALAFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDOFALEIRO): (a) No, Sir, according Supervisory Mechanism for ICCR to our information, no Rohi'l'(Jya Muslims from Myanmar have taken refuge in India. 9399. SHRI DHANUSKODI ATHITHAN; Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be (b) and (c). In view of the above, does pleased to state: not arise. (a) whetherthe Government had devised (d) No, Sir. any supervisory and advisory mechanisms to monitor the activities of Indian Council of (e) In view 01 the above, does not arise. Cuttural Relations; Soyabean Cultivation (b) if so, the detailsof such mechanisms; and 9398. DR. SHRIMATI K.S. SOUNDARAM: Will the Minister of (e) if not, the reasons therefor? AGRICUL TURE be pleased to state: THE MINiSTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether there IS a vast scope f.)r MINISTRYOF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI increasing Soyabean cultivation in Tamil EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Nadu; The folbwing authorities of the Council advise, monitor and suspervise the activities of the (b) if so, the steps taken by the ICCR:· Government in that direction; and (i) General Assembly (c) the additional areas in Tamil Nadu proposed to be brought under Soyabean (ii) Governing Body cultivation in the Eighth Five Year Plan? (iii) Fiancee Committee THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (iv) Any other Committee set up for MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Yes, discnarging any of the functions of Sir. the ｾｯｵｮ｣ｩｬ＠ as directed by the President, the General Assembly (b) A Centrally Sponsored Scheme viz. or the Governing Body. "Oilseeds Production Programme" (OPP) is (c) Does not arise. in operation in different States il¥:luding Tamil Nadu to increase the production of Development of Dhamra• Fishing different oilseeds including soyabean. Harbour in Orissa Specific guidelines have been indicated to the State Governments for promoting 9400. DR. KARTIKESHWAR PATRA: expansion of area undersoyabean. Amanual Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be for training extension wor1 (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) the steps taken by the Govemment (c) the number of persons working on in this regard? daily wages in the Municipal Corporation of Delhi, zone-wise and grade-wise; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI (d) the steps to regularse the services of MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) No the eleigible persons? proposal for further development of Dharmra Fisher Harbour has been received from the State Government of Orissa. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and ( b). The (b) and (c). do not arise. corporation vide its Re solution No. 709 dated 20.11.1978 have resolved that the Regularlsation of Services of Dally reularisation of daily rated/ muster roll wages in Municipal Corporation of employees be done in a phased manner Delhi subject to the availability of funds and requirement of such employees on regular 9401. SHRI ROSHAN LAL: Will the basis for perman'1nt nature of work. Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) The appoximate number of muster- roll workers ·working in the various (a) whether any rules regulations have departments is as under:- Engineering Department 1800 Horticulture Department 673 C.S.E. Department nss Health Department 316 Education Department 374 Community Services Department 123 The Central Establishment Dept!. 17 A.C (Headquaters) Office 86 103 Written Answers MAV 7,1992 ｗｲｩｴｴＹｮａｾｗＹｲｳ＠ 104 (d) The regularisation of the muster-roll [English) workers wiD be done as stated in (a) and (b) above: educational and Resaard.Facllltles In Flsherle. [ Translation) 9403. PROF. UMMAREDDV Central T_m to AHe.. Drought VENKATESWARLU: Will the Minister of Situation In Madhya Pradesh AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (a) whether fish farming and prawn 9402. SHRI ANDAN AHIRWAR: farming have made tremendous strides In KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI recent years; SINGH: SHRI CHANDULAl (b) If so, the details of the progress CHANDRAKAR: made during the last three years; DR. LAXMINARVAN ｐａｎｄｅｖａｾ＠ (c) whether there is any proposal to ifTl)(ove educational and rese ....ch facilities Will the Minister of AGRlCULTURE be in fisheries in near future; and pleased to state: (d) If so. the details thel8of? IflstituteofFl8shwaterAqruaculluetoenabie researoh and educational ptOgratM18S In them to make better contribution to higher respective dIIc:IpIIne8. 107 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written ａＧ［ｾＧｷ･ｲｳ＠ 108 oto ,.._o M It) ex> O) ,.._ c;;- ex> C1> C1> Q) I() ex> 6 <0 It) 0 c: 0\ - c: 0) ,.._ III ,.._co to CJ) :::. en It) ,....: ｾ＠ ｾ＠ 0 00 " r if, ..c::...... ; ..c::. J) fJ) 'E fJ) 0 Cl) Cl) ro U ..c::. ...: C1I (/) u .... C1I C1I a. 0.. ｾ＠ C',j .... ｾ＠ 0.. ro (ij <1l .r::. <1l .., ｾ＠ ｾ＠ (_) c: ..c::. ::l <1l e: It E iO <1l 0 ｾ＠ !!! ..c::. c <1l .... <1l E U fJ) ::c <1l til ｾ＠ c: (/) ::l .s::: E .... c: CIl 0 '::;- C1I E C1I c( < c( oc. (!) (!) :I: I -, :x: ｾ＠ ｾ＠ N ...; oQ It) «i ,...: cO ai (I'j 0 109 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 110 '€ .S ｾｾ＠ It- .... c: ｾｾ＠ M ...... 0 M CO en ' en ' M M c.ci o o o o iii o C> o co r...: g r-- M .r tI) III II) ....: "0 ta '- .... '" (\I ｾ＠ C\j c.. C >. 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AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI 9407, SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF M,M, JACOB): (a) and (b), According to the FATMI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM news item, the population of Nadia district AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: has increased by 549, 75% between 1951 and 1991, The population of Nadia district (a) the numberof letters/representation. has grown by 236,77 per cent during 195\;: mamorandam received by him from the 1991. members of Parliament during the last six months; (c) The police force in West Bengal has (b) the number of cases in which the , been supplemented under the schemes of ". receipt was acknowledged within 15 days "Prevention of Inflitration of Foreginers' and' and the number of cases in which final reply 'Mobile Task Force", Instructions have ｢ｾ･ｮ＠ have not been sent so far; issued to the State Govt, to enforce the l provisions of the Feishers' Act, 1946 strictly (C) the reasons for not acknowledging in order to detect and deport the illegal the receipt within fifteen days and not sending immigrant. The Government of West Bengal the final reply within three months; and :-Jave been requested to prepare a scheme 'or issue of identity cards in the brorder (d) the steps taken to expedite the :lreas. disposal of these letters, memoranda etc.? 117 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SITARAM KESRI) (a) Yes, Sir. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (d). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) and (c). The Social Welfare Directorate of Delhi Administration noted [English] some discrepencies in the financial and organisational matters of four voluntary Alleged Drugs Scandal in Delhi organisation given below: 9408. SHRI R. SURIENDER REDDY: (1) Samaj Sewa Sangh, Delhi. Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: (2) Associatio for Social Health in India, (a) whether attention of the Government New Deihi. has been drawn to the new-item captioned 'Laklls in Deihi durgs Ｎｾｴ［Ｚ｡ｮ､｡ｬＢ＠ appearing in (3) Home Economics Education Society, the Hindu dated April 11", 1992; New Delhi. (b) 11 so, the details of the voluntary (4) All India Association for Social Welfare organisation involved in this scandal; of Down Trodden, new Deihi. (c) the amount of grants provided to The grant olthe 1st instalment sanctioned them dUring 1991-92; ann to two of them under the scheme of "Assistance to voluntary organisations for (d) the action taken against these prohibition and Drug Abuse Prevention" for voluntary organisation? the year 1991-92 is as follows:- S. No. Organisation Grant sanctioned for 1991-92 1. Home Economics Education 1,33,470 Society, New Delhi. 2. Association for Social Health in India, New Delhi 8,43,124 No grants were released to the following two organisations during 1991-92: 1. Samaj Sewa Sangh, Delhi Explosion in Oil Well Near Nilgarh Dikom Tea Estate 2. All India Association for Social Welfare at Down Trodden, New Delhi. 9409. SHRI DWARKA NATH DAS: Will the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (d) The second instalment of the grant GAS be pleased to state: was not released during 1992-93 after the Report of Delhi Administration was received. (a) whether the Government are aware 119 Written AnS"'1S MAY7,1992 Written AnSMJIS 120 of explosior:t in 1320 Nurrber Oil-Well near (d) if so, the details thereof; and Nilgarh Dikom Tea-Estate on April, 1992 (e) If not, the reasons therefor? damaging 800 homes hereby; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether the Govemment are aware MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI that a vast paddy-field has 11150 been MUlLAPALlY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and damaged due to eruption; and (b). Due to floods caused by breach of Nadehing river embankment in Tinsukia (c) the steps being taken to rehabilitate district of Assam on 29.3.1992, road the eruption-victims? communication to lohit and Diband Valley districts in Arunachal Pradesh was disrupted. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND The Govemment of Assam has reported the NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. following damage on the basis of preliminary SHANKARANANO): (a) There was a blow reports:- out in well No. Oikom-1 situated about 15 Kms. east ofDibrugarh on 7.4.92. There was 1. Area affected - 45,000 Hectares. no damage to any home due to the blowout. . 2. Population affected - 35,000 (b) An area of about 16.5 acres of nearby paddy-fields within 70 mtrs. from the 3. Villages affected -75 well plinth on three sides have been affected. 4. loss of human life - 1 (c) MIs. Oil India ltd. are assessing the possible damage to the seasonal standing The relief measure undertaken by the crops for c0rll>8nsating the affected land State Governments include distribution of owners. Also, the affected paddy -filed area gratuitous relief, essential commodities like is being permanently acquired by Oil India Rice, Oal, Salt, Mustard oil, Chira, Gur, Limited. Baby-food, Gunny bags and deployment of boats for transportation. Aoods In Assam (c) to (e). The details are being collected 9410. SHRILAETA UMBREY: Will the from the concerned State Governments. Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Workers of HPC Bottling Plant. at Mumbal (a) whether the recent devastating !lood in Tinsukia district of Assam has rendered 9411. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister thousands 0' people homeless and of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be completely disrupted the communication of pleased to state: Lohit and Diband Valley districts of Arunachal Pradesh; (a) whether mathadi workers at Hindustan Petroleum Corporation cooking (b) if so, the details of the damages and gas filling plants at Mumbai have resoprted relief measures taken in this regard; to go-slow; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (c) whether any steps have been taken to divert the spting river Noa-Diahing and (c) the steps takenlProposedto be taken Buri-Ching to its orginal course; in this regard? 121 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND pleased to state: NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (c). At present (a) whether there is any proposal forthe work is proceeding normally. construction of a fly-over for the movement of Indians thorough the Tin Sigha corridor; CBI Report on Aeductlon of Diamond and Merchants In Deihl (b) if so, the action taken by the 9412. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Government in this regard? SHRI TEJ NAY A YAN SINGH: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Ministerof HOME AFFAIRS be MIN ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI pleased to state: EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) There is no proposal under the consideration of (a) whether the Central Bureau of Government at present for the construction Investigation team inquiring into the abduction of a fly-over for the movement 01 Indians of the diamond merchants In Delhi has through the Tin Bigha corridor. submitted its report; (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) Does not arise. (c) the action takenlbeing taken thereon; Vacant Posts for SCsi STs In Delhi Police (d) whether the exit and entry cards of persons at the Indira Gandhi International 9414 SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Airport were checked after the abduction ｍｩｮｩｾｴ･ｲ＠ of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to case; state: (e) if not, the reasons therefor; and (a) the number 01 posts laying vacant in (f) the measure takenlbeing taken for Delhi Police at present category wise; thorough examination of these cards? (b) the number out of these posts reserved for Scheduled Castes and THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Scheduled Tribes; and ,SHRI S.S. CHAVAN): (a) No. Sir. (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) the time by which these posts are likely to be filled up? (d) Yes. Sir. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (e) Does not arise. (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and (b). The information is contained in the enclosed (f) The Central Bureau of Investigation statements. The category wise break-up of has stated that the cards have been posts laying vacant in direct recruitment scrutinised. quota and promotion quota are given in Statements I & II. Fly Over for Tin Blgha Corridor (c) All efforts are being made to fill the 9413. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: vacant posts reserved for SC/ST as soon as Will the Minister 01 EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be possible. 123 Written Answers MAY 7.1992 Written Answers 124 ... ｾ＠ 1 ell II) ｾ＠ ｾ＠ Q (.) ::> "l- I'- 0 (/) U') I- <: lu ｾ＠ S cc: (.) ｾ＠ 1: I- ｾ＠ j! (.) ｾ＠ z til W .S: ｾ＠ ｾ＠ :& CO) co N N III ｾ＠ ｾ＠ co t- .., COl '" t! ｾ＠ 8. U) .... ｾ＠ 0 .... ｾ＠ <: t§ ｾ＠ ｾ＠ <: 0 i::: Ci; ｾ＠ ｾ＠ 0.. is. ell CII §. §. is. ...; ... §.'" ｾ＠ uj 0 c:: c ... 'IV is "t: ri ｾ＠ ... ｾ＠ Q. ｾ＠ - '" I Ｎｾ＠ ... ｾ＠ !. CD '" C tf l! '0 CD !!t 0 e' c ｾ＠ :5 c: "0 (',j 8' til til !. ..- ｾ＠ .;:: c CD ｾ＠ ｾ＠ Q. CIS It '5 () ｾ＠ ｾ＠ >< E ｾ＠ €. ｾ＠ ｾ＠ g ... ｾ＠ .c Q) !!! ｾ＠ ....: a a ...; ...; 01 (ij 0 II) ｾ＠ II) a. c ... ! 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'l:I ｾ＠ «J ... ..: ｾ＠ «J ｾ＠ ｾ＠ a. .s:: !!! x 0 % 16 :l (.) ::::J ｾ＠ ｾ＠ 8: I- 0 g ｾ＠ ｾ＠ t-= t-= ..: ..: l- (/) (.) (/) o ｾ＠ -en 5.. ｾ＠ i! en (f) 0 :::: M N N N N M M M N ' 'C" ii; g """"7ij ｾ＠ c .1: co ｾ＠ u. .... w () ｾ＠ i" ....: (I) ｾ＠ 0 ｾ＠ t: ｾ＠ -g :B' ｾ＠ ｾ＠ ｾ＠ E c: e. I:!::: ｾ＠ :s 0 ci (.) 0 0 ci ci ｾ＠ ::i ::i ::i ::i .:x: ::i ｾ＠ vi cO cO Ol 0 ｾ＠ C') C') C') (") ..,. US M " 139 Written Answers MAY7,1992 Written Answers 140 Royalty to Andhra Pradesh on Natural (b) if so, the details thereof; and Gas (c) the amount allocated to the State for the purpose? 9415. RAMA KRISHANA KONATHALA: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND pleased to state: COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI MULLAPALL Y (a) whetherthe Govemment of Andhra RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to (c). Horticulture Pradesh has requested for royality on the Development in Sikkim will be taken up natural gas found in the West Godavari under the Central Sector Schemes for district; development of various Horticulture crops. State-wise financial allocations for 1992·93 (b) if so, the details thereof; under individual schemes are yet to be finalised. (c) the action taken/proposed to be taken by the Govemment in this regard; Per HeCf;lra Consumption of , Fertilizers (d) whetherONGC has conducted any survey in Visakhapatnam and Srikakulam 9417. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA districts for location for location of oil fields; RAJE: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE and be pleased to state: (e) if so, the details thereof? (a) the average per hectare consumption of fertilisers in the coultry at THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM precent; AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (c). Royalty on (b) whether the Govemment propose Natural Gas in paid to the Govememnt of to increase the per hectare average Andhra Pradesh by- ONGC in accordance consumption of fertilizers during the Eighth with the provisions of Petroleum and Natural five Year Plan period; Gas Rules, 1959. (c) If so, the target set therEifor; and (d) No, sir. (d) the steps taken in this regard? (e) Ooes not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Horticultural Development MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI Programmes In Slkklm MUlLAPALlYRAMACHANORAN): (a) The average per hectare consumption of fertilizer 9416. SHRIMATI Oil KUMAR I nutrients for 1991·92 is estimated to be BHANDARI: Will 1he Minister of 72.17 Kglha. AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: (b) and (c). During the Eighth Plan (a) whether the Government propose period, It is targetted to Increase fertilizer to launch schemes for horticultural nutrient consumption to the level 0 about development in Sikkim during 1992·93; 106.0 kglha. 141 ｾａｮｳｬｈｲＮ＠ VAISAKHA 17, 1914 l$AKA) Written Alt6wers 142 (d) The following steps have beCfl made.$O far In this regard? taken to Increase per hectare fertilizEl)' consumption:- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAl GAS (SHRI B. (i) The Govemment of India Implemented SHANKARANAND): (a) No, Sir. a scheme during the 7th Plan for opening retail outlets in remote and (b) Does not ariSe •. inaccessible areas. Export of Crude 0111" Absence of (ii) Fertiliser use in small packs is being Adequate RefinIng Facllltle. popularised to aid transportation to remote areas and to encourage 9419. SHRI JAGMIT SINGH BRAA; use of fertilizers among small Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND farmers. NATURAl GAS be pleased to state: (iii) The States have been advised to (a) whether crude 011 has to be exported exempt to dealers upto a limit of 10 In the absence of adquate refining facilities tonnes of fertilizers, from the in the country; requirement of obtalning dealership registration certWicate for enhancing (b). so, the quantity of crude oil exported easy availability of fertilizers. during the last three years and the names of the countries to whom it was exported (iv) The use of micronutrients is being and at what rate; popularised for improving the fertilizer use efficiency In intensively (c) whether the Government have cultivated areas. formulated anyscheme for its refining within the country future; (v) Demonstration of benefits offertiliZer use and balanced/efficient (d) if so, the details of the scheme and application of fertilizer Is being theamountproposedtobelncurredthereon; organised by State Agricultural and Extension agencies. . (e) the time by which the scheme (vi) Soil testing facilities are being would be completed? strengthened to assist fanners with appropriate advice on proper use THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM of fertilizers. AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARAND): (a) No, sir. 011 Drilling Operation In Bombay HIgh (b) to (e). Do not arise. 9418. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Import of Petroleum Product. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 9420. SHRI SYED S..w-w3UDDIN: (a) whether any drilling operations are Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND going on in the Bombay High; and NATURAl GAS be pleased to state: (b) if. so, the details of the progress (a) the quantity of petroleum and 143 WIftH'I Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 144 petroleum products imported during 1991- compallltlS and provide them at subsidised 92 with the names of major supppliers and rates to poor farmers in the country; and break-up of total import by countries of (c) if so, the details thereof? origin; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether there was any shift in the DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND import pattem; and COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI MULLAPALL Y (c) the break-up of total import by RAMACHANDRAN): (a) There are 21 seed mode of purchase i.e underGovememnt-to companies which have entered into -Govemment deal or through agreement financialltechnical collaboration with the with Companies or thorugh spot purchase foreign companies in the area of seedsl in auction, with the average CIF ｵｮｾ＠ price planting materials in the country. for each mode of purchase during the said year? (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (c) Question does not arise. AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (c). Crude oil LPG Agencies In Himachal Pradesh and petroleum products are imported both under term contracts and spot purchases. 9422. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: Spot puchases are not always relatable to Will the Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND specific countries. The term supplies of NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: crude oiVpetroleum products during 1991- 92 were from USSR, Iran, UAE, Saudi (a) the number of LPG agencies Arabia, Malaysia, Bahrain and China. About functioning at persent in Himachal Pradesh, 33.2 MMT crude oil and petroleum products district -wise; valued at about Rs. 12700 crores were imported during 1991-92, out of which (b) whether there is any area limit about 13.6 MMT was under term contracts. imposed to supply of LPG to consumers in The price is different for each term contract rural areas; and sport purchase. (c) the areas covered by the Gas Supply of Seeds to Fanners at Agencies in district Hamirpur; Subsidised Rates (d) whether the Govemment consider 9421. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH to extend the area limit for providing LPG to HOODA: Will the Minister of more people in rural area who reside near AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: about 12 - 15 kilometres from the nearest LPG agency; (a) the number of foreign companies (e) if so, the details thereof; and which either on their own or through joint ventures are marketing high yielding variety (f) if not, the reasons therefor? of seeds in cereals, pulses and horticulture in the country; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. (b) whether the Government propose SHANKARANAND): (a) Information is given lQ purchase such seeds from these in the attached statement. 145 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 146 (b) to (e). LPG distributors in all hilly radius of 15 Kms. markets including District harmirpul dre permitted to provide connections withlli Ultj (I) Does not arise. STATEMENT 51. No. District No. of Distributors 1. BILASPUR 2. CHAMBA 3 3. KANGRA 12 4. HAMIRPUR 2 5. MANDl' 4 6. KULU 7. LAHUL SPITI 8. SOLAN 5 9. SIRMAUR 3 10. KINNAUR 11. SIMLA 12 12. UNA TOTAL= 46 Pacts with Russian Firm for pacts recently; Exploration of Oil and Natural Gas (c) if so, the reasons therefor and; 9423. SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (d) the financial implications as a result NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 01 cancellation of the pacts? (a) the number of pacts signed with the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Russian firms for the exploration of oil and NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. natural gas in the country; SHANKARANAND): (a) Twelve contracts relating to various studies in connection with (b) whether the oil and natural gas exploration Dvelopment were signed with commission has cancelled some of those the erstwhile Soviet Union from1973 to 1987. 147 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 148 (b) No. Sir. defence personnel Involved in these spy rings? (c) and (d). Do not arise.' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Investigation of Case by Central MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Bureau of Investigation AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI ｾＴＮ＠ SHRI DATTATRAYA M.M. JACOB): (a) to (c). The information is BANDARU: being collected and will be laid on the Table SHRI BHAGAWAN of the House. SHANKAR RAWAT: SHRI MANGALRAM PREMI: Conference of Petroleum Sector SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: 9426. SHRIMATI BASAVA SHRI N.K. BAlIYAN: RAJESWARI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: pleased to refer to the reply given on September 12. 1991 to Unstarred Question (a) whether a recently held conference No. 6878 regarding investigation of case by of petroleum sector has suggested for Central Bureau of Investigation and State; deregulation of prices of petrQleum and petroleum products; (a) whether the information in regard to parts (a) to (c) of the question has since been (b) if so, the main points discussed in collected; that cOnference; (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the decisions arrived at the Conference; (c) if not, the reasons for delay in this regard? (d) whether the suggestion made in the conference have been examined by the THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Government, and (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) to Ccl. The information is being collected and will be laid (e) if so, by what time the final decision on the Table of the House. is likely to ,be taken? Spy Rings In Delhi THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. 9425. SHRI JEEWAN SHARMA: Will SHANKARANAND): (a) to (e). In a the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased Conference convened by the Institute of to state: ' Public Enterprise and ·UrJa" on February 28, 1992. steps like International parity price for (a) the details of spy rings busted in crude, freedom to refineries to purchase Delhi during each of the last three years; crude from any source, fixation of ex-refinery product prlces on the basis of international (b) the action taken in each case; and refinery margin with suitable adjustments and determination of product patterns In the (c) the details of government servants! refineries by mar1 (c) the total number of deaths took place (c) the number of Government quarters due to LPG gas cylinder explosion during in which tenants and antiSOCial elements each of the last three years; and have been found, separately; (d) the number of cases in which the (d) the action takenlbeing taken aganist insurance amount has been paid? the allottees of such quarters; and THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (e) the time by which the remaining NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. colonies would be checked? SHANKARANAND): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (b) The liability insurance is intended to (SHRIS.8. CHAVAN): (a) to (e). In the wake cover accidental death or bodily injury to any of abduction of the Romanian diplomat Mr. person (except to insured's employees) Liviu Radu, the Delhi Police carried out door- and/o damage to property caused by gas to-door survey 011 08 GovtJpolice colonies, cylinder, applicances, pressure regulators, 1985Govt. quarters were found occupied by etc. tenants and 253 occupants were lound (c) Deaths on accounts of various involved in various crimes. The Delhi Police reasons relating to LPG use:- have reported that almost all the colonies have been checked. Year Number [English] 1989-90 53 Suggestion from Amnesty International 1990-91 58 for Research on Human Rights 1391-92 46 9429. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE RAt; Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Total 157 pleased to state: -" .. ＭＭＮＭＭＭｾ＠ 151 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 152 (a) whether the Government had THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS received any suggeslionlproposar from Ille (,"HRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) The Delhi police Amnesty International tor carrying oW: W reported that they have no information research on human rights; and about any such racket operating in the D 9430. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR (b) if so, the estimated annual volume SHASTRI: Will the Minister of HOME thereof; AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) the estimated value 01 the ｰｩｾ･ｲ･､＠ oil in the country during each 01 the last three (a) whether any racket is operating in years and the current year; and the Delhi Regional Passport Office which gets the passports issued in the name of (d) the action taken/proposed to be others on fake authority letters and later taken by Government in this regard? misuse them for various purposes; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND {b) if so, the details thereof; NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) There have been (c) the steps being taken to apprehend cases of pilferage of crude oil from ONGC's the culprits; and oil pipelines. (d) the number of complaints received in (b) and (c). According to ONGC the this regard during the current year and the quantity and value 01 estimated pillered oil is action taken thereon? given below:- Year Quantity Estimated value of (KL) pilfered crude oil 1989-90 4.00 RS.8,00 1990-91 21.10 RS.55,000 1991-92 Nil Nil 1992-93 Nil Nil (upto Arpil, ' 92) ｾＮＺＮＮＺＺＮ｟ｾ｟｟Ｚ｟｟｟ＺＺ｟ＺＺＬＺ｟｟ＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭＭ｟ＮＭ - -- 153 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAK.Y Written Answers 154 (d) A review of existing security (t; I ;: so, the reaction of the Government arrangements to prepare a more foolproof! theruiO? security plan, especially, for the ｗ･［ＬｾｲＢ＠ Onshore region was made. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN ISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Awarding of Contract at Bombay High EDUARDO FAlEIRO): (a) Yes, Sir. 9432. DR. Y.S. RAJASEKHAR REDDY: (b) The allegations of human rights Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND violations contained in such memoranda are NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: grossly exagerated, politically motivated, and seek to distort out of context the situation (a) whether Hyundai, the South Korean prevailing in Punjab. industrial giant, has been awarded the massive contract (or the project aimed at gas [ Translation] flaring on platforms LA, LB, LC, LD and LE 01 Bombay High (North): Plantation of Mango Trees in U.P. (b) whether any tenders were called for 9434. DR. P.R. GANGWAR: Will the before awarding the contract to the said Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to company; and state: (a) whetherthe Government propose to (c) if so, the details thereof? increase the area under mango plantation in Uttar Pradesh during the current year; THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. (b) if so, the areas identilied for the SHANKAR ANAND) : (a) ONGC have placed purpose: and a conditional letter of intent subject to credit on MIs Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., (c) the funds proposed to be provided to Korea for LA, LB, LC, LD, and LE well the State for this purpose? platforms in Bombay High North. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). This Vias against an open MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI global tender originally YToated by ONGC in MUllAPPALlY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to November 1990. (e). There is no specific programme for area expansion under mango plantation in Uttar Memorandum by Sikh Organisations to Pradesh. However, under the ongoing Central UN Sector Scheme for Arid and Tropical Zones, programmes for improving the productivity 9433. SHRI CHinA BASU: Will the of existing mango orchards are being Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased undertake ... with the supply of critical inputs to state: such as quality planting material. Uttar Pradesh has been covered under the (a) whether some Sikh organisations Programme. A sum of As. 3.57 lakh was have submitted any memorandum to UN on provided to Uttar Pradesh under the alleged human rights violation in Punjab; and programme during 1991-92. 155 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written AIIswers 156 [English] (d) the steps taken by the Government to re-vilalise these Kendras? Krlshl Vigyan Kendras THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 9435. SHRI CHANDULAL . MtNISTRYOF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. CHANDRAKAR: Will the Minister of lENKA): (a) Sir, Presently 109 Krishi Vigyan AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Kendras are functioing in various districts of the country. (a) whether several Krishi Vigyan Kendras are notfunctioning in various districts (b) Does not arise. of the country; (c) Information about the number of (b) if so, the reasons therefor, KVKs State-wise is enclosed as statement. (c) the number of Krishi vigyan Kendras (d) Effective monitoring is being done to actually functioning at present, State-wise; keep the functioing of Krishi Vigyan Kendras and smooth and efficient. STATEMENT NurrtJer of KVKs-STA TEW/SE Sr. No. Name of the State Total No. of KVKs 1. Andhra Pradesh 8 2. Assam 2 3. Bihar 8 4. Gujarat 5 5. Haryana 4 6. I':amataka 5 7. Kerala 4 8. Madhya Pradesh 5 9. Mahrashtra 6 10. Orissa 5 11. Pondicherry 12. Tamil Nadu 6 157 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 158 Sr. No. Name of the State Total No. of KVKs 13. Uttar Pradesh 15 14. Rajasthan 11 15. Punjab 6 16. Himachal Pradesh 3 17. Jammu & Kashmir 18. West Bengal 5 19. Arunachal Pradesh 20. Goa 21. ｍ｡ｮｩｰｵｾ＠ 22. Nagaland 23. Sikkim 24. Meghalaya 25. Tripura 2 26. Mizoram Total 109 Fake LPG Cylinders and Regulators (d) the action taken against the persons found guilty? 9436. SHAI MOHAN AAWALE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA ruRAL GAS be pleased to slate: . THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (a) whetherthe sale offake lPG cylinders NATURAl GAS (SHAI BSHANKARANAND): and regulators in Bombay has come to the (a) to (d). As reported by HPC & BPC, a case notice of the Government; of sale of fake lPG cylinders and pressure regulators has been registered by the (b) H so, the whether any inquiry has Bombay Police in the month of August, 1991. been conducted into the matter; Acharge-sheet agalnstthe accused persons has been filed by the Police in the Court. The (c) if so, the outcome thereof; and case, at present, is pending in the Court. 159 Written 411swers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 160 [ Trans/ation] [Eng/is/I] Murders In Deihl States Reorganisation Act 9437. KUMARI UMA BHARTI: Will the 9438. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD in ster of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to SINGH: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS [ate: be pleased to state: (a) whether the number of cases of (a) whether the Government are murders by hitting on the head has increased contemplating to amend the States in Delhi recently; Reorganisation Act in view of the prevailing circumstances in the country; (b) the number of such cases reported (b) if so, the details thereof; and in Delhi during 1991 and 1992 so far; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) whether Delhi Police have been able to identify the gang committing those THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE murders; MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the details thereof; and MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M.JACOB): (a)to (c). There is no proposal (e)the specific measures taken to check to amend the States Reorganisation Act. the recurrence of such incidents? There have been demands from time to time for the formation of new States mainly on account of regional imbalances in economic THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS development. The Government have been (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and (b). Sixteen taking a consistent view that the removal of such cases were reported in Delhi in 1991 regional imbalances in economic and five in 1992 (upto 15.4. 1992). developmentinaparticularStateisessentially a matter to be tackled through the mechanism (c) and (d). The South District Police has of planning and setting up appropriate identified a notorious g3ng of killer dacoits infrastructure like Development Boards, allegedly involved in over a dozen cases of Special Area Authority etc. and that creation robbery and murder in the Capital. Following of a separate State is no answer to the the arrest of one of the gang members after problem. a chase by a police patrol party on the night of 16/17th march, 1992 and on the basis of [ Translation] information gathered from him, the police . arrested four of his associates. Damage of Rabl Crops Due to Drought (e) Among the measures taken are 9439. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: Will the- increased patrolling, posting of pickets at Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to strategic points strengthening of intelligence, state: frequent raids at the hide-outs of the criminals, increased surveillance and coordination with (a) whether the Rabi crops have been the neighbouring States. damaged in Kerala, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya 161 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 Pradesh, Rajasthan and Orissa due to severe AgJinst target 01 61.60 lakh tonnes of drought condition; foodgrains, estamated production is 53.85 lakl1 tannes which is 87 per ｣ｾｮｴ＠ of target. It (b) if so, the actual shorfall in current rabi may affect procurement of foodgrains. season and whether it is ｬｩｾ･ｬｹ＠ to affect me procurement of foodgrains; and Orissa: No damage is reported by the State Government (c) if so, the action taken by thl't Government to make. up shortage of (c) Th$ procurement of wheat foodgratins sa used by drought? commenced from 1.4.1992 has reached a level of 35. 36 lakh tonnes as on 4.5. 1992 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE compared to 35.50 lakh tannes during the MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI corresponding period last year. The. MULLAPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) and concerned state are taking suitable measures (b). Kerala: Damage reported by State to to procure requiSite supplies from the Central Rabi Rice crop in an area of 4016 hectares. Pool as well as from surplus states. Out of whi.;h 2556 hectares have been fully damaged 1460 hectares partially damaged. Pension to Widows of freedom Fighters About 6460 tonnes of rice is report to have been lost 9440. SHRI VILASRAO NAGNATHRAO GUNDEWAR: Will the Minister of HOME As regards pulses crop area of 913 AFFAiRS be pleased to state: hectares has been fully damaged, 145 hectares partially damaged. About 728 (a) the number 01 pension cases 01 tonnes of pulses mair (cowpea) are reported widows of freedom fighters lying pending at to have been damaged. Shortfall reported in present, State-wise; due to scanty north-west monsoon. (b) the reasons for delay in finalising Andhra Pradesh: No damage to rabi these cases; and crops is reported by the State Government. (c) the steps taken for their expeditious Madhya Pradesh State Government disposal? have reported a shortfall of t 7. 23 lakh tonnes of rabi fooodgrains. This has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE due to failure of wint rains and at'he sowing MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS time of whet. An area of 51akh hectares could AND THE MINISTER OF SlATE IN THE not be sown under wheat and the land MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI remained follow. M.M. JACOB): (a) A statement is enclosed. Rajasthan:Due to deficient rains, sowing (b) and (c). When widows ｡ｰｰｬｾＧ＠ for of rabi crops during t 991-92 reported as transfer of pension, they are required to 56.62 lakh hectares against the target of submit identification doucments and 59.70 lakh hectares. Shortfall in sowing of opensioner's half of Pension Payment Order. rabl cereals Is 2. 1 5 lakh hectares pulses 3.39 Non-receipt of these documents sometimes lakh hectares. In Oilseeds, there is increase cause delay. Also in certain cases, i.e. where . in area by 1 . 721akh hectares. Lower moisture name of the wife has not been indicated by availability has affected rabl production. the freedom fighter In his application, a 163 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 164 report it required to be called from the Distt. the wife or dependent daughter(s) Magistrate regarding the particulars of the has been Indicated in the application widow. Where an application is complete in of a freedom fighter, the disbursing all respects orders are issued on a priority officer Is authorised to make the basis. In other cases, documents or report of payment to the nomine (s) on the District Magistrate, as the case may be, . production of death certificate of is called forthwith. the freedom fighter and other identification documents. 2. Further, with effect from 1.5.1992 the procedure has been simplified for expeditious (ii) in respect of cases where the disposal of pension cases of widows of nomination does not exist, the freedom fighters as under:- disbursing officer is authorised to make the payment of pension on (i) in respect of caes where the gelting the claim verified and nomination exists i.e. the name of attested by the District Collector. STATEMENT S/. Name of the State . No. of cases pending No. 1. Andhra Pradesh 10 2. Assam 3 3. Bihar 50 4. Gujarat 11 5. Haryana 2 6. Himachal Pradesh 7. Jammu and Kashmir 8. Kamataka 21 9. Madhya Pradesh 19 10. Maharashtra 42 11. Meghalaya 12. Orissa 6 13. Punjab 3 14. Uttar Pradesh 54 15. West Bengal (incl. 107 Midnapur Dislt.). Total 331 165 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 [English) during 1990,1991· and 1992 so far; 011 Production (b) the number of cases out of these registered cases in respect of which challans 9441. SHRI BRAJA KISHORE have been submitted in courts; TRIPATHY:WilltheMinisterofPETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) the reasons for not disposing of these cases speedily; and (a) whether any task force has been constituted to make indepth studies of the (d) the steps being taken for speedy potential and economic viability of oil disposal of these cases? production in Orissa; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof; MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether. the preliminary survey MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI conducted for the purpose has indicated M.M. JACOB): (a) to (d). The information is good deposits of oil in Mahanadi Basin and being collected and the same will be laid on Coast of Bay of Bengal in Orissa; and the table of the House. (d) if so, the details thereof? [English] THE MINISTER OF PETROLUM AND Financial Assistance to Flood Affected NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKRANAND): States (a) No, Sir. 9443. PROF. UMMAREDDY (b) Does not arise. VENKATESWARLU: SHRI ANNA JOSHI: (c) and (d). Besides carrying out geoscientific surveys Oils India Limited have Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be drilled 4 exploratory wells in Mahanadi pleased to state: onshore and 11 exploratory wells in Mahnadi and North East Coast Basin off Orissa Coast (a) the State/Union Territories which but no commercially exploitable hydrocarbon were affected by floods during 1989-90 and deposits have been discovered so far. 1990-91 : [ Translation) (b) the amount provided to each Statel Union Territory as relief during the above Cases Registered Against Terrorists In period; Jammu and Kashmir (c) the amount untilised by each Statel ｾＴＴＲＮ＠ SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Union Territory during the above period from Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be the Calamity Relief Fund; and pleased to state: (d) the details of damages casused by (a) the number of cases registered floods in each StatelUnion Territory during against terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir this period? 167 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 168 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). 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(e) whether the Government propose to (e) No. open more of these research institutesduring , 992-93; and (I) Does not arise. 193 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 -o cO 010 .eN o- n; ri CIl ." ."CIl ._." a:J: ... -0 .S22l .9!a: ._2 ." c=: ｾ＠ « J: >- (/) c=: « ...J c=: sc=: ｾ＠ J: a: J: o w « UJ ::.:: :ii :ii 195 Written Answers MAY 7.1992 Written Answers 196 aI :; .""iii .E .s:::. ｾ＠ III aI en aI • a: (\I Ｑｉｬｾ＠ ＾ｾ＠ <(\I co':" Eg, allIl (..).5 ...J < (!) Z w CD l- (/) w 3: ｾ＠ ＼ｉｉｾ＠ (..)0 CO ｏｾ＠ aiM..... -c: ....aI ｾｦｩｪ＠ ＮｳＺＺＺＮｾ＠ olD m"aI . UlO alZ 0:. -ID ｾ｡ＮＮ＠ 0": ;:;aI ｾｾ＠ .0 (\1"':1 J: (/) w z o a:< a.. a: ｾ＠ ! ::l -o 197 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 o o o o o o 8 o o iii N ｾ＠ ｾ＠ C> M g o CI) ｾ＠ ｾ＠ i:: ｾ＠ 0; 0 0 0 0 0 l: 0 0 0 0 0 (.) CO) 0:: ｾ＠ ' ｾ＠ ｾ＠ - en c ｾ＠ s: 0 It Lu (.) ｾ＠ ｾ＠ !a ci.:::j ｾ＠ .Q ｾ＠ 0. . III Q) 0< >- c;: i-o.: c;: CIl '"ｾ＠ 3< 0 (!) 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Escape of Terrori:;ts from Police [Trans/,ilIon] Custody/Jail In Deihl Ulilisation of Crude Oil Refining 9445. SHRIARJUN CHARAN SETHI: Capacity SHRI BAPU HARI CHAURE: 9446. SHRI SUKDEO PASWAN: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be SHRI NITISH KUMAR: pleased to state: Will the Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND (a) the number of terrorists who escaped NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: from police custody jail in Delhi during 1989, (a) whether crude oil refining capacity in 1990, 1991 and 1992 as far; the country is less as compared to its consumption; (b) whether any inquiry has been conducted in this regard; and (b) the percentage of crude oil refining capacity utilised in the country during the last (c) if so. the details and the outcome three years; and thereto? (c) the projects under construction to create additional refining capacity in these THE MINISTER OF HOME ａｆｆｾｊｒｓ＠ years? (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) No terrorist escaped during the year 1989, 1990, 1991 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND and 1992 upto (30.4.92) from police custody/ NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. jail in Delhi. SHANKARANAND): (a) Refining capacity is less than the consumption of petroleum (b) and (c). Do not arise. products. (b) Year Percentage utilisation of installed capacity 1989-90 100.2 1990-91 99.8 19991-92 99.2 (c) During this period, the following refinery projects have been under implementation:- Project (inMMTPA) Refining capacity to be created Digboi Modernisation : 0.15 Madras Refinery Expansion : 0.90 207 Written Answers MAY 7 .. 1992 Written Answers 208 Project (in MMTPA) Refining capacity to be created Guwahatl Refinery Expansion 0.15 Bongaigaon Refinery Expansion 1.00 Narimanam Crude Distillation Unit 1.00 Mangalore Refinery 3.00 x Cochin Refinery Expansion 3.00 • Barauni Refinery Expansion .0.50 x Proposal approved by Government on 17.3.1992 . • Implementation kept In abeyance due to agitations in Assam. Purchase of Agricultural Inputs THE ,MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI 944 7. SHRI ANAND RATNA MAURYA: MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be Short-term loans to States are prOVided pleased to state separately for Kharrt and Rabl seasons, every year. A statement Indicating shOfl- term loans advancetodifferent States dUring (a) the snort·term loans advanced by 1991-92 is anached. the Union Government to each State for the purcnase of agricunural inputs during 1991- (b) Short-term loans are not given to 92; and farmers directly but are meant for State inslitutional agencies to enable them to (b) the number of farmers benefited purchase and distribute agncultural Inputs during the above penod, State,wlse? like fertilizers, certified seeds and pesticides. 209 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 210 ｾ＠ I{) I{) I{) 0 I{) I{) I{) 0 0 0 0 -0'> M N M N 0 M M <0 0'> r--: It') N'" Iri C"i ci '"..t --'"ｾ＠ e C\j (.) ｾ＠ 0 I{) I{) I{) 0 I{) 0 0 0 L() I{) ·s -0'> O! co N !'-. 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The experiments on ttle deveiupment of Hybrid rice are still III Production of Rice preliminary stage and all eHorts are being mao", to make avaliable the Hybrid rice for 9448. SHRI RAMA KRISHNA commercial cultivation in shortest possible KONATHALA. Will the Minister of tirlle. AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Bombay High Areas (a) whether Kharif rice yield are lower than Rabi rice yield; 9449. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the pleased to state: action proposed to be taken by the Government to step up Kharif yield; (a) whether the Sick oil wells in Bombay High areas have been closed; (c) whether experiments have been conducted to produce Hybrid varieties of (b) if so, when andlhe reasons therefor; rice: and (c) the loss of production due to closure (d) the results of these Hybrid varieties of the welis, and of rice and when it would be introduced for massive cultivation? (d) the steps taken/proposed to revive these wells? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPt,RTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND AGRICUL TURE (SHRI MULLAPPALL Y NATURAL GAS (SHRi B. RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Yes, Sir. SHANKARANAND): (al to (dl. According to ONGC, there were 70 idleinan-contrlbuting (b) Some of the reasons for low yield of oil wells as on 1.4.1992. It is a norma! oil field Khalil rice, as compared lothe Rabi rice, are occurrence that some producing wells turn ,I) dependence of a large Kharif rice crop idle/sick and some ｩ､ｬ･ｩｾｩ｣ｪＮ［＠ we;:s are brought Clrea on monsoon (ii) proneness of crop to back on production through ｷｯｲｫＭｯｶｾｲ＠ insect-pes! and disease attack during the operations. Kharif season owing to cloudy sky and high numidity (iii) Low use of inputs like fertilizers [ Trans/ation] by the tJrmers, particularly in rainted condition due to risk of drought and floods, Conference 01 International Institute of etc. Strategic Studies For increaSing the Khariff rice yield 9450. SHRI NAR.Ali\lBHAIJAMLABHAI adoption ot location specific production RATHVA: Will the Minister cf EXTERNAL t8chnology IS beir:g propagated and AFFAIRS be pleased;o state: Incen;ives are ba:ng provided to the farmers for the sarne through Centrally Sponsored ,. (a) whetrler Foreign Secretary had "Integrated Programme tor Rice participated in the Conference of Intr:rnatlonal Dcwelopment (IPRD)", in implementation in Institute of StrategiC Studies held In London major riGe growing states. on March 12, 1992: 215 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 216 (b) if SO, the ｯｵｴ｣ｯｭｾ＠ olthis ｃｯｮｬ･ｲ･ｮ｣ｾＺ＠ (C) rne number of wolters engaged on Ihp :\foJect site sacked by ONGC; and (c) the subjects brought into light tiy '",11 and other Indian representatives; and (d) how it is proposed to carry on lurther with this project? (d) the reaction of the participants from other countries thereto? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHANKARANAND): (a) According toONGC, MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI both sides have agreed to discontinue the EDUARDO FAlEIRO): (a) The Foreign seismic survey. Secretary participated in a roundtable discussion on "Indian Perspectives on (b) The exploration woltcarried out has developments after the Cold War" at the not established the presence of any Intemationallnstitute of Strategic Studies on worthwhile hydrocarbon reserves. 12th March, 1992, during his visillo London lor bilateral talks with his British counterpart. (c) No regular worker has been terminated. Only the service 01 contingent (b) to (d). The subjects covered by the labour engaged in the survey have been Foreign Secretary in his address inctuded discontinued. new orientations in India's foreign and economic policies, India's approach to (d) Based on interpretation and study 01 nuclear non-proliferation and India's relations available data, adecision regarding the luture with its neighbours. The round table programme of exploration would be taken. discussion enabled the British participants to get much betler understanding and Agricultural Cooperation with Israel appreciation of various aspects 01 India's foreign policy, and domestic economic 9452. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH I situation. HOODA: Will the Ministerof AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: [English) (a) whether the India has signed any Contract wHh Russian Finns for agreement with Israel for mutual cooperation Carrying out Survey tor Oil Reserves in the field of agriculture; and 9451. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH SRAR: (b) if so, the areas identified for the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND same in the field of agriculture? ｎａｔｕｾａｬ＠ GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Commission has terminated its contract with DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND a Russian firm regarding carrying out seismic COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF survey for possible oil reserves in the lower AGRICULTURE (SHRI MUllAPPAlLY reaches of the Ganges in West Bengal; RAMACHANDRAN): (a) No, Sir. (b) If so, the reasons' therefore; (b) Does not arise. 217 Vv'ritten Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAK4) Written Answers 218 Petrol Dealers in Deihl tried JQ Illternationalise certain domestic ＺｾＺ＠ ,Jt!S of India; and 9453. SHRI GURUDAS KAMA T 'II ... ", the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (d) if so, the reaction of the Government GAS be pleased to state: thereto? (a) whether petrol dealers in Delhi are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE involved in dealings of highly inflammable MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI petrol and petroleum products; EDUARDO FALEIRO): (a) Yes, Sir. The function was organised by the Indo-Arab (b) if so, the reasons therefor; Islamic. Youth Organisation, Hyderabad, a non-governmental organisation. (c) whether petroleum products are stored illegally by these dealers; and (b) The complete list of participants is not available with Government. (d) If so. the action taken against such dealers? (c) It is understood that an effort was made to draw a parallel between the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Palestinian cause and the Ramjanam Bhoomi NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. Babri Masjit Issue. SHANKARANAND): (a) and (b). Petrol dealers are dealing in petrol which is highly (d) The remarks were made in a public inflammable product. The product is required debates and in an individual capacity and to be stored by them in storage tanks as per were opposed by other participants. license obtained from Chief Controller of Government deplore the internationalisation Explosives. of domestic issues. (c) The information is not available with UlFA'S Struggle for Independent . the oil companies about illegal storage of Assam petroleum products by any dealer. 9455. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: (d) Does not arise. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: International Day of Solidarity with Palestinians (a) whether some ULFA harliners have announced that the outfit would resume its 9454. SHRI DA ITATRA YA BANDARU: armed struggle for an independent Assam Nillthe Ministerof EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be as reported in tlie 'Economic Times' dated )Ieased to state: 4,1992;and (b) if so, the reaction of the Government (a) whether the 'International Day of thereto? Solidarity with the Palestinians' was held in ;yderabad on December, 1,1991; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (b) If so, the names of the Indian and AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE foreign dignitaries who participated therein; MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS(SHRI M.M. JACOB): (a) The Government have been (c) whether some Indian participants the news paper report to this effect. 21 9 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 220 (b) Operations against those ULF A Cochin Oil Refinery activities who are opposed to negotiati(" , within the frame work ofthe constitutlofl f I Funds for Darjeellng Gor1 1989-90 1875.00 (a) whether the Indian Oil Corporation has preferred a claim on the Railways lor the 1990-91 2100.00 loss due to theft of petrol from railway petrol tankers at Igalpuri Railway Station Yard in 1991-92 1932,00 Central Railway; (b) to (d). Facts are being ascertained (b) if so, when and the amount for which and will be placed on the table of house. the claim has been sumitted; 221 Written ａｮｳｬｾｬＡｦｳ＠ VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 (c) whether it h..iS since b",en settled; Wdi me Minister of AGRICUL TURE be and pleased to state: (d) if so, the details ult:rtJof? (a) th" JClual production of pulses against THEMINISTEROFPE TFiOLEUM AND the target set during 1990-91 and 1991-92; NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) to (d). Indian Oil Corporation has filed a claim for Rs. (b) whether the Government have any 17,11,163/- against Indian Railways on proposal to increase pulses production during November 4, 1991. The claim has not been Eighth Five Year Plan; and 'settled. (c) if so, the details thereof? Production of Pulses 9459. SHRI SHANKERSINGH . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE VAGHELA: MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) RAJE: The information is as follows: In million tonnes Year Target Production 15.0 14.06 1991-92 15.5 13.80 (anticipated) (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Planning MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI Comfl1ission has indicated the production EDUARDO FALEIRO): Sir, the number of target 0117.00 MJllion tonnes of Pulses for Indian students in the Commonwealth of the terminal year of Eighth Plan Le. 1996-97. Indepenoent States who are resistered with our Missions in these countries are gi\Jen \ Trans/ation} below: Indian Students In CIS· State No. of students 9460. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: Will the Ministerof EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased Russia 1961 to staie the number of Indian students undergoing engineering and medical Ukraine 1041 education in various States of Commonwealth of Independent States afterthe disintegration Byelorus 141 of USSR, State-wise? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Armenia 160 223 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 224 [English] State No. of students Villages Selected under Integrated Azerbaijan 86 Tribal Development l'roject In Maharashtra ,_atvia 49 9461. SHRI VILASRAO NAGNA THRAO Maldova 6 GUNDEWAR:Wilithe Ministerof WELFARE be pleased to state the details of villages Uzbekistan 340 selected under the Integrated Tribal Development Project in Maharashtra? Tajikistan 48 THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI Kyrghystan 7 SITARAM): A statement indicating details of the5691 villagesselectedunder151ntegrated Kazakhstan 12 Tribal Development Projects in Maharashtra covering 20 Blocks (fully covered) and 27 Total 3851 Blocks (Partly covered) is attached. 225 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 ,.._ en o N ,.._ to :0 c Q) > :E CD I- Z w :E w I- ｾ＠ (/) N ...:::» ... c Q. IV i <1l t') s:: s:: 3:; g ｾ＠ IV C (ij ...,." 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Cl It! Z -0 ｾ＠ ｾ＠ > ｾ＠ ｾ＠ ｾ＠ c:: ro> .r= It! E It! « Z « >- ...: ai 231 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 232 N N N ｾ＠ .t:: -c: o Q) .s::. E.... « « II! "Ooll! (5 c: .s:::. III ｾ＠ a.s:::. ::.:::I N III· .... II! i6 0 "0 (oj c II! a: § ｾ＠ III > a W is ｾ＠ t: N 10 ｾ＠ Cl. 0 g II! .s: -0 ｵｾＭ ｾ＠ ｾ＠ c ﾷｾＳＺｩＡＺｯ＠ .!!! III -u.. 1: ｾ＠ ｾ＠ .s:::. .!a II! (!) () a::..a.. ｾ＠ ..: 0 ...; ....:. US 233 ｗｲｩｴｬＢｮ｟ａｮｳｷＬＬｾ＠ VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 234 Sunflower Cultivation (b) the achievement made under this project so lar; 9462.SHRIMATIVASUNDHARARAJE: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Qe Ｎｾ＠ '. (c) whether the vegetables and Iruits pleased to state: ＧｳｯＧｉｾＧＦｾｨ･ｳ･＠ outlets are 01 sub-standard quality; and (a) whether thl\' Government have a proposal to launch sunflower cultivation in (d) il so, the steps taken to sell better Rajasthan under a centrally sponsored quality IJuits and vegetables at reasonable Oilseed Production Programme during the rates? Eighth Five-Vear Plan; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the areas in the State identified MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI for sunflower cultivation; and MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) The Project aims at linking Iruits and vegetable (c) the assistance proposed to be given growers in rural areas with consumers in the to the State for this purpose? urban areas. THE MtNISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The project has established growers' MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI associations in rural areas, a central MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) To distribution facility and about t 76 retail outlets increase the area and production of oilseeds in Delhi to achieve the above objective. including sunflower, a centrally sponsored Oilseeds Production Programme (OPP) is (c) No, Sir. being implemented in several States including Rajasthan. (d) Does not arise. (b) While 27 Districts of Rajasthan have Sprinkler Irrigation System been identified under OPP, no specific area has been earmarked for sunflowercuitivation. 9464. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be {c) Under the OPP, assistance is pleased to state: provided to the States for production and (a) whether the ICAR units and distribution of seed, plant protection Agricultural UniverSities are conducting measures, seed minikits, distribution 01 experiments on Sprinkler Irrigation System gypsum and pyrites, sprinkler sets, improved which are v.idely in use in U.S.A.; farm implements, frontline and general demonstrations. Ｈ｢ｾ＠ if so, the details of research work undertaken by these units so far; Fruits and Vegetables Outlets In Deihl (c) the States where this irrigation system 9463. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: has been introduced during the last three Will the Minister 01 AGRICULTURE be years; and pleased to state: (d) whether ｴｨｾ＠ Government propose to (a) the aims and objectives of setting up cover the arid zones of Madhya Pradesh Mother Dairy fruits and vegetables outlets in during Eighth Five Year Plan under this Delhi; system? 235 Written Answers MAY7,1992 Written Answers 236 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Years Sales Tax collection DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL (Figures in crores) RESEARCH AND EDUCATION, ANIMAL HUSBANDRY AND DAIRYING IN THE 1988-89 RS.518.17 MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. LENKA): (a) Yes, Sir. 1989-90 Rs.597.96 (b) Research work has been undertaken 1990-91 Rs.690-02 on various eWcency parameters of the sprinkler system, namely, optimum capacity (b) No, Sir, Sales tax collection during of the pumping lInit, water discharge, 1991-92 is Rs. 787 crores viz-a-viz Rs. 690 unHormity of water application and water use crores during 1990-91. efficiency lor different crops. (c) Does not arise. (c) The sprinkler irrigation system is presently in operation in sizeable areas in Production of Sugarcane in Andhra the states of Gujarat, Haryana, Rajasthan Pradesh and in the tea estates of the north-eastern region. 9466. SHRI RAM A KRISHNA KONATHALA: Will the Minister of (d) No. AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Sales Tax Collection in Delhi (a) whether sugarcane yields are highest in Andhra Pradesh as compared to Uttar 9465. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR Pradesh; SHASTRI: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAiRS be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether Government propose introduce proper crop planning for stepping (a) the details of sales tax collection in up sugarcane production in Andhra Pradesh Delhi during 1988-89, 1989-90, and ＱＹＹｾＱＭ and alternative crops In Uttar Pradesh to 91, separately; , increase agricultural production; (b) whether there has been a shortfall in (c) whether astudy has been carried out the collection of sales tax in Delhi during to estimate the farmers' share in the rupee 1991-92; and paid by the consumer for sugar; and (c) if so, the details thereof and the (d) if not, whether such study would be reasons therefor? undertaken by the Government to improve the economic status of sugarcane growers? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFPARlIAMENTARYAFFAIRS MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MULLAPPALLY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI.M.M. The sugarcane yield per hectare in Andhra JACOB): (a) The sales tax collection in Delhi Pradesh is higher as compared to Uttar during three years is as flows:- Pradesh. 237 Writtell Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 fSAJ Alleged Printing of Pro-Pakistan (b) The Indian leaders briefed the Literature In Srlnagar Press Portuguese President on our perception of the situation in Punjab and Kashmir. The 9469. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will protuguese President showed understanding the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased of our concerns. to state: Welfare of Communal Riots Affected (a) whether the Union Government have Children any information regarding printing of pro- Pakistan literature by local press in Srinagar; 9471. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the and Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the action takenlbeing taken in this regard? Ca) whether first meeting 01 NationaJ Foundation For Communal Harmony was THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE held recently in New Delhi; MINISTRYOFPARlIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the salient features thereol? MINtSTRYOF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRIM.M. JACOB): (a) and (b). Available reports (c) whether the Union Government indicate that the local press in Kashmir, due have announced to provide Rs. one crore to lear 01 gun, threat correction, ortemptations during the current financial yeartorthe welfare do publish pro-militant literature in the local 01 the children affected ｢ｾ＠ communal riots; 241 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAI1.A) Written Answers 242 (d) if so, the State-wise allocation Production of Gram Oal thereof: <:1473. SHRI RAM KRISHNA (e) whether the Union Government KONA THALA: Will the Minister of propose to incft:Jse this amount; and AGHICUL TURE be pleased to state: (a) whether 'yields of gram dal are (f) if so, the details thereof? stagnant for the last three years; (b) il so, the steps taken/proposed to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE taken by the Government to step up the MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. production; JACOB): (a) and (b). The first meeting of tile National Foundation for Communal Harmony (c) whether the government have was held on 21 st March, 1992 under the identified the areas where gram production Chairmanship of the Union Home Minister. could be stepped up; and The Foundation has been established as an autonomous body, and eminent persons (d) if so, the State-wise; detailS and from various walks of life have been included areas suitable for gram dal cultivation in the in its Governing Council, so that the country? Foundation can benefit form their experience. The Chairman appealed to the members to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE take active interest in the affairs of the MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI Foundation and share their ideas and time MULLAPPALlY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) with it so that it can develop as an effective Yield of gram dal has been fluctuating during and highly reputed organisation, making a the last three years as indicated below:- unique contribution towards the noble objectives for which it has been set up. He Year Yield (Kg/ha.) also appealed to the members to actively assist in raising donations lor the Foundation 1988-89 753 and, in particular, to take up some specific responsibilities in this filed. The scheme is 1989-90 652 still being drawn. 1990-91 701 (c) Yes, Sir. (b) To step up the production of pulses (d) The assistance is required to be including gram, Centrally Sponsored Scheme given to the children affected in communal- 01 National Pulses Development Programme violence Ihroughoullhe country. and Central Sector Scheme of Special Foodgrains Production Programme (Pulses) are being implemented to provide support to (e) and (I). A provision 01 Rs. ninecrores the farmers. Under these schemes, financial has been made in the Budget of 1992-93. assistance is given to the States on various This amount after meeting initial expenditure inputs like seed production, plant protection in setting up the office will lorm corpus 01 the measures, distribution of seed miniklts, Foundation and it is expected that the sprinkler sets, rhizobium culture, farm Foundation will earn interesVreturn on this implements and organisation of front·line amount which will form part of its income. and general demonstrations etc. 243 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 244 (c) and (d). In an. t 11 distnctshavebeen (b) It so, Ule details thereof; identified for increasing the productivity dll\) production of gram in 9 States. These are (c) the reasons therefor; and M.P. (33),' Rajasthan (14), U.P. (26), Maharashtra (11), Kamataka (6), Gujarat (d) the steps taken by the Govemment (3), Haryana (3). Bihar (14) and Punjab (1). in this matter? HBJ Pipeline Project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 9474. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MULLAPPALl Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d). The Press Reports indicate that some quantity of foodgrains was burnt in Delhi (a) whether the payment of Rs. 120 recently to protest against import of wheat crores. which was awarded to the Gas and low minimum support price of wheat. Authority of India Limited (GAIL) by French Court nearly six months ago still cludes the The decision to import wheat has already Indian Company; been deferred till July. 1992. (b) whether the SPIE-Capag-Ied 3. The minimum support prices fixed by consortium is likely to make attempts to stall the Government cover not only the cost of the payment; and production but provide a reasonable margin of profitto the producer. The minimum support (c) the action proposed to be taken by price of wheat for the marketing season the Gas Authority of India Ltd. recover this 1992-93 has been fixed at Rs. 250 per amount from the consortium which had quintal recording an increase of Rs. 25 per exeputed the prestigious HBJ pipeline quintal overthatfixed for 1991-92 marketing project? season. Besides, the Government has also decided that a bonus of Rs. 25 per quintal will THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND be paid to those farmes who sell wheat to the NATURAL GAS (SHRI B. Food Corporation of India and its agencies SHANKARANAND): (a) to (c). A number of during the period from 1.4.1992t031.5.1992. legal and commercial formalities are to be completed in order to encash the Bank Guarantee. Passport Foodgralns Burnt In Deihl 9476. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: SHRI ANNA JOSHI: 9475. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL SHRI ANAND RATNA AFFAIRS be pleased to state: MAURYA: SHRIJAGMEET SINGHBRAR: (a) the number of passport applications received between January, 1,1992 and till Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be date, Passport Office-wise; and pleased to state: (a)whethertarrnershadbumlfoodgrains (b) the number of passports issued, in Delhi recently; Passport Office-wise? 245 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE passports issued during the period from 1st MINISTRYOF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (Sf II q J "'"dry to 16th April 992. passport office EDUARDO FAlEIRO): (a) and (b). Data Uri WI::'to, is enclosed as Statement. Data upto applications for passports received and 7th May 92 is being collected. STATMENT S.No. Station NO.ofPPT NO.ofPPTS Applng Received Issued 1. Ahmedabad 50214 38145 2. Bangalore 40507 20609 3. Bareilly 24445 18220 4. Bhopal 8264 7847 5. Bhubaneshwar 3774 3201 6. Bombay 87855 74285 7, Calcutta 20246 11175 8. Chandigarh 36796 23685 9. Cochin 69312 52323 10. Delhi 47266 32337 11. Goa 6460 6798 12 .• Guwahati 1998 1758 13. Hyderabad 90274 72670 14. Jaipur 47567 28712 15. Jalandhar 40167 20254 16. Kozhikode 82359 45800 17. Luknow 38357 43066 18. Madras 49243 20784 247 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 248 S.No. Station No.oti'i'T No. ofPPTS /'tj),JIIVJ ｾ･｣･ｩｶ･､＠ Issued 19. Nagpur 4196 3900 20. Patna 15351 7043 21. Trichy 59988 32210 22. Trivandrum •42099 4415 866740 569237 Fertilizer Pricing (b) if so, the details thereof; and 9477. SHRI SUDHIR GIRl: Will the (c) the date by which it is likely to be set Minister of AGRICUl TURE be pleased to up? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a)whetherl.M.F. have imposed certain DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND conditions on fertilizer pricing in the country; COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI MUllAPPAll Y (b) if so, the details thereof; and RAMACHANDRAN): (a) No,. Sir. (c) the reaction of the Government (b) and (e). Do not arise . thereto? . [ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI Compen:Jation to Owners of Land MUllAPPALlY RAMACHANDRAN): (a) to Between Pakistan Border and Barbed (c). The question of general conditionalities Fence imposed by I.M.F. was replied 10 by the Finance Minister in lok Sabha in 28th 9479. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: Willihe February, 1992 (Vide Lok Sabha Unstarred Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to Question No. 844). stale: Rural Agricultural Insurance (a) whether the farmers whose land lies Corporation between Pakistan border and barded fence have been compensated by the Govemment; 9478. SHRI SOBHANADRESWARA RAO: Will the Ministerof AGRICULTURE be (b) the arrangement made by the pleased to state: Government in regard to the crop cultivated beyond the fences which is destroyed by wild (a) whether there is any proposal to animals; establish a Rural Agricultural Insurance Corporation; (c) the reasons for which the gates 249 Written Answers ｾ＠ VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 meant to be opened for farmers on the cattle under Desert Development borcler are not opened regularly during the Programme; and day; and (d) if so, the steps taken thereon? (d) the reasons as to why the farmers working along the border are harassed to take slips, whereas only those farmers are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE justified in taking these slips who have to MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. cross the border to work beyond the barbed LENKA): (a) Yes, Sir. fence? (b) Considering the scarcity 01 water in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE desert areas the thrust of the Desert MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Development Programme is on conservation AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a maisture, harvesting 01 run off water and MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. retharging the ground water resources. As JACOB): (a) The land between barbed fence such, exploitation of ground water sources and border in certain stretches is being eitherfor irrigation or drinking waterpurposes cultivated by the owners of the land. is not an eligible activity under the programme. (b) There is no instance of destruction of (c) and (d). The proposal of the crops by wild animals. Government of Rajasthan forcommissioning of Ground Level Reservoirs constructed for (c) and (d). The slips are issued to only provision of drinking water to cattle by those farmers who go beyond the fence connecting them to water sources through through gates. The gates are opened in the pipelines has been approved as a speical morning and closed in the evening when case by utilising additional funds that have farmers have finished their work. No reports been released in 1991-92 and 15% of DDP have been received that the. farmers are allocation during 1992-93. being harassed unnecessarily. DMS Day Milk Stalls [English] 9481. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the Minister Drinking Water for Cattle of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: 9480. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARARAJE: . (a) whether the Delhi Milk Scheme has Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be set up its All Day Milk Stalls in complexes of pleased to state: Government offices; (a) whether the exploitation of ground (b) if so, the locations; water source for making drinking water available for cattle is not permitted under (c) whether Delhi Milk Scheme propose desert development programmed; to set up similar stalls in private market complexes of Delhi; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; (d) if so, the locations identified for this (c) whetherthe Government propose to purpose; and consider the proposal of the Government of Rajasthan for Inclusion of drinking water for (e) If not, the reasons therefor? 251 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 252 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Day MilK Stalls in the private market MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K C r.on ILJ1exes of Delhi due to difficulty in getting LENKA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, Deihl Mill<. SUIlaOle accommodation in private market at Scheme (OMS) has set up Its All Day Milk a nominal rent as is provided by the Stalls in the following Government Office Government offices. Complexes:- Krlshl Vigyan Kendra 1. Parliament House; 9482. DR. AS 1M BALA: Will the Minister 2. Parliament House Annex; of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: 3. Krishi Bhavan; (a) whether the Government are aware of unsatisfactory functioning of Oevyadhay 4. Rail Bhavan; Krishi Vigyan Kendra and Brill Mother Farm. run by Ramakrishna Sewa Kendra in 5. Udyog Bhavan Jalpaiguri district of West Bengal; 6. U.P.S.C. (b) If so, the steps. taken by the Government to revitalise this Kendra and 7. P& T; farm, and 8. Eastern Court; (c) the funds provided to them by the Indian Council of Agricultural Research during 9. Yojana Bhavan the last three years? 10. A.G.C.R. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. 11. C.G.O. Complex; LENKA): (a) and (b). Sir, The problems of this KVK has been discussed with the 12. E.I.L., Bhikji Kama Palace Government of West Bengal for finding out a solution. The Bull Mother Farm so the 13. Town Hall; scheme for Ramakrishna Sewa Kendra and not of ICAR. 14. Old secretariat; '" (c) Rs. 29.82 lakhs. 15. North Block; Small and Marginal Farmers 16. OMS Premises (Outer Gate ) for 9483. SHRI P.P. KALIAPERUMAL: Will General Public the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: 17. OMS Premises (Office Colll>lex) for (a) the IOta! number of farmers In the Staff on confessional sale. country; (c) No, Sir. (b) the number of marginal and small farmers among them; and (d) Does not arise. (c) the steps taken to IIll>8I1 the latest (e) OMS has no proposal to set up AU technlcallIciII to these fanne,,? 253 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 254 .d THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of an Autonomous District Hill Council for MINIS"TBY or AGRICULTURE (SHRI Leh, MULLAPPALLYRAMACHANDRAN):(a)As per latest available census the total number Other representatives have some of operational holdings in the country were reservations and some other view points 97.15 million. also. The representatives from Kargil and Leh have agreed to participate in the further (b) The number of marginal holdings discussions to be held in the third week of were 56.15 million and small holdings were May. 17.92 million. Compensation to States for Loss of (c) Reorganisation of extention services. Revenue due to Prohibition demonstrations. training. information communication support for dissemination of 9485. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: .. improved farm technology and Krishl Vigyan Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to Kendras provide a framewori( for transfer of state: technology to the farmers. (a) the States which have introduced prohibition; Meeting with Representatives of Ladakh and Kargll (b) the manner in which the Union Government propose to compensate such States for the loss of revenue due to 9484.SHRISHRAVANKUMARPATEL: prohibition; "Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) the policy of the Government with regard to prohibition? (a) whether he met some representatives of Ladakh and Kargil in New Delhi on April 9, 1992; THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI SITARAMKESRI): (a) According to available (b) It. so the precise demands made by information, Prohibition has been enforced those representatives in the meeting; and In Gujarat, Manipur" Mizoram, Nagaland. and Lakshadweep (except In Bangaram fe) the .-eaetion of the Government Islands). Parl'l8lproliibition has been enforced "thereto? in Tamil Nadu. (b) There is no Scheme of the Central THE MINISTEROF PARLIAMENTARY Government to give compensation to States AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN which introduce prohibition. THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. JACOB): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) The Govt. of India have. issued the Minimum Programme for Prohibition in 1975 (b) and (c), The Ladakh Buddhist and Guidelines for implementation of ｾ＠ ''Association has been demanding setting up Prohibition In 1978. 255 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 256 [Translation) (a) whetherthe proposal sent by ａｮ､ｨｲｾ＠ Prrloesh Meat Corporation to modernise Smuggling Across Indo-Bangladesh ｳｬ｡ｵｹｬｬｬｾｲ＠ house is under active consideration Border of the Union Government; 9486. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: (b) if so, the details thereof; and SHRI K.V. THANKABALU: (c) the time by which the clearance is Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be likely to be given? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whetherthe Union Government have MINISTRY OFAGRICULTURE (SHRI K.C. advised the Government of West Bengal to LENKA): (a) Yes, Sir. stop issuing trade licences within 15 km of the Indo-Bangladesh border and exercise (b) The Project seeks to provide safe strider control and vigilance on the existing and hygienic meat to the consumers, facilities traders in order to arrest the growth of for lairage, ante-mortem and post-moortem smuggling across the border as reported in examination of animals, humane slaughtering Sunday Mail dated February 9-15; 1992; and utilisation of animal by-products at an (b)if so, the details thereof; estimated cost of Rs. 1 100 lakhs. (c) whether the Government propose to (c) The Project can be sanctioned only provide a security belt in 5 to 10 km area of after the proposed scheme for this purpose the Indo-Bangladesh border to check in the Eighth Plan is approved by the infiltration and legal trade; and competent authority. (d) if so, the details thereof? Escape of Oreaded Criminals from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Police Lok-up In Deihl MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 9488. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be JACOB): (a) No, Sir. pleased to state: (b) Question does not arise. (a) whether some dreaded criminals escaped from police-lock-up in Delhi recently; (c) and (d). Keeping all aspect of the problem in view, the proposal does not seem (b) if so, the details thereof; to be feasible (c) whether and inquiry has been [English) conducted in this regard; Modernisation of Slaughter House (d) H so, the details and the outcome thereof; 9487. SHRI M.G. REDDY: KUMAR I KUDUMULA (e) the action takenlbeing taken against PADAMASREE: the erring officials; and ｾＺ＠ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be (f) the measures being taken to prevent pleased to state: the recurrence of such Incident In future? 257 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 258 THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) and (b). Two MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS criminals, who had been arrested in case AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FIR No. 32192 uts 380t4581PC registered at MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. Police Station, Vasant Vihar, Delhi escaped JACOB): (a)to (d). Details are awaited from fromR.K PuramPolicelock-upon21.4.1992 the Government of Jammu and Kashmir. at 2.20 AM by making a hole in the rear wall of Police Station lock up. A case FIR No. [ Translation! 231dt. 21.4.1992 uls 223/224 IPC Police Station R.K. Puram was ,jagistered and Refugees from Foreign Countries Investigation entrusted to Crime Branch. 9490. DR. PARSHURAM (c) to (e). Enquiries were conducted by GANGWAR: the Add!. C.P. (Southern Range), and five SHRI B. DEVARAJAN: police officials were placed under suspension SHRI PARASRAM and the SHO transferred. BHARDWAJ: (f) Among the measures taken to prevent Will the Ministerot HOME AFFAIRS be recurrence of such incidents are:- pleased to state: i. detailing of two sentries, one in (a) the estimated number of refugees front and one in the rea; of the from Pakistan. Pak-occupied Kashmir, Tibet, Police lock up; Burma and Bangladesh residing in India at ii. Ulumination of premises of the Police Present separately; Stations; and iii. Night checking oj lock ups by (b) the estimated number of such officers. refugees who came to India during each of the last three years; Security for Train Passengers In Jammu and Kashmir (e) the number of such refugees who have been rehabilitated in various Sates and 9489. SHRI BHUPIf-,iDER SINGH Union territories and the number of such HOODA: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS refugees who are yet to be rehabilitated; be pleased to state: (d) the expenditure incurred by the Union (a) the number of train passengers killed Government on them during each of the last and Injured separately, by terrorists and three years; other anti-social elements in Jarnmu and Kashmir during each of the l.:lst three years; (e) the estimated number of such refugees who are ｉｩｫ･ｾｹ＠ to be repatriated too (b) the details of compensation paid to their original country during the current year? the next of kitch and kin of the victims; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the steps being taken forthe security MiNISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS for train passengers in the State; and AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI M.M. (d) the expenditure incurred in this regard JACOB): (a) and (b). During the last there during each of the last three years? years 46 refugees came effort Tibet. Persons 259 Wriften Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 260 who had come to Indla from Pakistan, of Kamataka., Tamil Nadu, Orissa ana: Pakistan-occupied. Kashmir, Burma and Gujarat. The details of these schemes are as Bangladesh during these years are not follows:- treated as refugees but are treated as 'Foreigners' and are dealt with under the Women and Youth training 9ievant laws applicable to them. Extention Project (WYTEP) Kamataka:- The major e"l'hasts (c) and (d). 46 Tibetan refugees who of this programn:'8 ts to provide :ame to India during the last three years farm women with updated have been rehabilitated under Handicraft knowledge of appropriate and Agricultural Scheme In Himachal agricuhuraltechnologies and to help Pradesh. The expenditure Incurred by the them to adopt and practice them in Government of India on them during the last day-to-day life. It Is being three years is about Rs. 2.225 lacs. implemented In all the districts of Kamataka, except Bidder with a (e) All the Tibetan refugees who came to totalprojectcostofRs.12.04aores. Ind·ia during the last three years have since So far, 43866 farm women have been rehabilitated. As such the question 01 been trained under the project upto their repatriation to their original country Oecermer. 1991. does not arise. Tamil Nadu Women In Agrlcunure {English] (TANWA):- The Project is ｾｭ･ｮｴ･､＠ in six districts, namely, Education to Rural Women Chengalpet, South Arcot, Thanjavur. Dukkottal. TirunelveU 9491. PROF. UMMAREADDY and Parmakudl, with a total cost of· VENKATEESWARLU: Will the Minister 01 Rs. 3.21 erores with major AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: e""hasts on providing need based skin oriented training. 10892 ｦｾ＠ (a) whether women folk in rural areas women have been trained under form sizeable part of agricultural ｾｵｲ［＠ TANWA upto Oecermer, 1991. (b) If so, whether any specific schemes TtakJingandExtenstJonlorWomsn have been designed to educate rural women InAgricunuffl (rEWA) Orissa:-The as part of agricultural extension; and Project Is Implemented In four districts, namely Bolanglr, Ganjam. (c) if so, the details of such programmes? Puri and Ohenkanal, with a total cost of Rs. 2.13 crore. The tralning is to be provided to lady Village THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Agricultural Workers (VILAWs) who MIN'STRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI In tum would educate about 50,000 MUllAPPAUY RAMACHANDRAN): (a, rural women through group Yes,Sir. contacIa. 93 VlAWS have been trained uplo Mum, 1992. (b) and(c). Forthe purpose or educating ruralwomen as part of Agrtcultural Extention. The above thIM projects are being SpecIal schemes with external assls1anc:e Implemented with assistance .ＮＬＮｰｮｴｉＸｴｬｦｉｹ｢･ｬｮｧｾｩｮｨ･ｳｲ｡ｴ｡Ｎ＠ 1horough DANJDA. 261 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 262 iv) Training of Women in Agriculture in seeds, and other socio---economic factors Gujarat:- This Project is a DUTCH etc. assisted one, with a total cost of Rs. 24 crores. It is being implemented (b) and (c). There are various on-going in 5 districts of Gujarat, namely, programmes such as (i) Integrated Panch Mahal, Surat, banaskantha, Programme for Rice Development (IPRP). Bhav Nagar and Junagarh. 5389 (ii) Special Foodgrains Production farm women have so far been Programme (SEPP) of Wheat and (iii) trained in agriculture and other Assistance to small and Marginal farmers for 'vocational courses underthe project construction of shallow tubewells/dugwells till March, 1992. (STW/DW) under implementation for improving the productivity of lands in various In addition to the specific schemes being States including the States covered by the implemented in four States as mentiflned Gengetic plains and river delta. No time limit above efforts for providing training to farm can be fixed to bring the productivity of other women are being supplemented by providing States at par with Punjab as yield potentials training at Farmers Training Centres (FIC) are dynamic under changing technology. and Knshi Vigyan Kendras (KVKs). Market Intervention Operation Foodgrains Production In River Delta 9493. SHRI RAM NAIK: 9492, SHRI BHAGEY GOBARDHAN : SHRIMATI BASAVA Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be RAJESWAAI: pleased to state' Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be (a) whether the lands in the Gangetic pleased to state: plains and the deitalc regions of the important rivers in the country do not produce as much (a) whether the attention of the of Vir-eat and rice per hectare as compared Government has been drawn to the severe to the lands in Punjab. if so. the reasons criticism from the Commission for Agricultural therefor; Costs and Prices (CACP) on the Market Intervention Operation by the National Dairy (b) whether there is any proposal to Development Board (NDDS) in the edible oil implement time-bound programme for trade; improving the productivity of lands in the aforesaid regions to bring it on par with that (b) if so, the steps taken/proposed by of Punjab; and the Government to issue proper guidelines to the NDDB; and (cl if so, the details thereof? (c) the salient features of the other THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reCOMmendations of the CACP regarding MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI the edible oil seeds and edible oil trade? MUllAPPALL Y RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Yes, Sir, The reason forlhe lower productivity THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE per hectare in these States as compared to DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND Punjab are agro climatic conditions. soil COOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF ｦｅｈＱｩＱｾｹＬ＠ lower proportion of irrigated land. AGRICULTURE (SHRI MUlLAPPAll Y less use of fertiliZers per hectare & certified RAMACHANDRAN): (a) Yes. Sir. 263 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 264 (b) Comprehensive guidelines have AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE already been issued by Govemment for MINISTRYOFHOMEAFFAIRS(SHRIM.M. market intervention operations in edible oils JACOB): (a) to (e). The information is being by the NDDB. Government has also collected and the same will be laid on the constituted an Empowered Committee on Table of the House. Oilseeds Policy which reviews these market intervention operations periodically. [English] (cl The commission in its resort on price Increase In Prices of Pulses policy for kharif crops 191-92 recommended constitution of a high powered committee to 9495. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: review the scheme of market intervention in Win the Minister of AGRICULTURE be edible oils. pleased to state: [ Translat;on] (a) Whether imported pulses have become costlier with the partial convertibility Pollee Personnel In Jammu and of the rupee; Kashmir (b) whether the market pr ICes are likely 9494. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: to go up in the near future; and 'Nill the t... 1inister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps proposed 10 be taken by the Government to check the prices of (a) the number of pOlice personnel in pulses? Jammu and kashmir who have been disr1issed suspended and arrested. separately, curing each of the last three THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE iears; MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI MUlLAPPALLY RAMACHANDRANi: (a) to (b) the number of police personnel in the (c)_ WitI': the introduction of partial Stale arrested under TADA during three convertibility of rupee. import of pulses is years; allowed at the market rate of foreign exchange. (C) the nJmber of police personnel on the Stale against whom crimina! cases have 2. Prices of pulses are showing by and been registered during the above period; large. continuous rising trend which on reflect Ihe relative shortage of pulses. The (d) Ihe number of such cases referred to Government is seiZed with the problem and the courts; and has taken steps for augmenting supplies through increased production and imports. (e) the number of police personnel in the For increasing the production of pulses, the State who are in jails at present? schemes, viz, Centrally Sponsored National Pulses Development Project (NPDP) and Central Sector Special Foodgrains THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Production Programme-Pulses (SFPP- MINISTRYOFPARUAMANTERY AFFAIRS Pulses) are being irnplemented Inthe country. 265 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 266 Production of Pulses QuesllOfl No. 2246 regarding CBI inquiry into ｾｬｦｴｬｏｲｩｳ･､＠ constrJction in Delhi and state; 9496, SHRI CHANDUlAl CHANDRAKAR: Will the Minister of (a) whether the Central Bureau of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state: Investigation has since investigated into the complaint against the officials of NDMC; \a) whether the Government have conducted any study to identify the areas (b) If so, t!1e detailS thereof: and ｾｵｩｴ｡｢［･＠ for growing pulses in the country; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) if so the outcome of the study; (c) whetherthe Government propose to THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS S8t up research centres for developing the (SHRI S,8. CHAVI'.N): ((a) to (c). The CBI h:gh yielding varieties of seeds for pulses; verified the complai;-,ts. Their investigation and showed trial d:.;e ;0 the delay on the part of certain officers of NOMe, the builders could (0) If so, the locations identified for the construct tour addi,;onal floors constituting CUlT.)cs"? twentyfoiJ[ additicna'tlats. After examination, the CBI dE:!cidad not to register a case for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proble ar:d to refer the matter to the Chief DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND Vigilar.:e O:ticer, Ministry of urban COooERATION IN THE MINISTRY OF Development on 30.1.1992 for taking AGRICUL Tl;;lE (SHRI MULLAPPALL Y appropriate action. HAMACHANDRAN):(a)and(b). The National Comrr,;ssion on Agricultural had identified Law for P:eventing Depreservation cer12.in ｡ｦｾ｡ｳ＠ for expansion of pulses (L)itivalion, Under the Centrally Sponsored 9498 SHRI R. SUR ENDER REDDY: Naticnal Pul;es Development Programme, Will the Minister of \\,ELFARE be pleased to ·3': districts have been identified for intensive state: iJulse development (a) whether the Union Government are (c) and (d). Research on development considering to bring forward a legislation to of high yielding varieties of seeds of pulses prevent deresarvatlon of unfilled posts meant is being carried out at 31 centres located all tor Scheduled Castes and scheduled Tribes; over the country under the All India Coordinated Pulses Improvement Project (b) if so, the main features of the oesides Directorate of Pulses Research, legislation; and Kanpur under the ICAR. (c) whether the Government are CBllnqulry Into Unauthorised considenng to Introduce the legislation during Construction In Deihl the current session of the Parliament? 9497, SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: Will the Minister of HOME THE MINISTER OF WELFARE (SHRI AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the reply SITARAM KESRI): (a) to (c). The matter is given on August 8 .. 1991 to Unstarred under conSideration. 267 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 26B Lower Division Clerks In Deihl to Gr. III (DASS) without qualifying Administration the typewriting test as they have been exempted from typing-test as 94gB-A. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: perthe Govt. of India's instructions. Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Similarly, such category of employees, if they are in the age (a) whether any norms .for grant of group of 35-40 at the time of their annual increament Lower Division Clerks in promotion/appointment, are Delhi Administration have been laid down; exempted from passing the typing test on attaining the age of 45 years (b) if so, the details thereof; provided they have made one genuine attempts as per Govt. of (c) whether the LDCs are eligible for India's instructions refferred to promotion even without passing the typing above. Also those employees of test after certain years of service; if so, the these two categories who were details thereof; and below 35 years of age at the time of their promotion/appointment are (d) it not. the reasons theretor? exempted from passing the type- writing test atter making two genuine THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS attempts as per Govt. of India's (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): (a) Yes, Sir. instructions referred to above. Those who are above the age of 45 (b) All Grade-IV (DASS)/LDC appointed years at the time of the their through the Staff Selection Commission are promotion from Class IV to Grade- granted annual increments after completion IV (DASS)/LDC or appointed of 12 months service periodically. compassionate grounds are allowed annual increment without Grade IV (DASS)fLDC promoted from qualifying the typing test. Class IV and those appointed on compassionate grounds are granted annual [ Translation) increment after they qualify the typing test or are exampted from passing the typing test as Government Quarters for MCD per rules: Employees (c) and (d). Certain categories of LDC/ 9498-B. SHRI VILASRAO Grade IV (DASS) employees I.e. NAGNATHRAO GUNDEWAR: Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to I. those promoted from Class IV to state: Grade (Dass)/LDC and (a) the number of residential quarters for the employees of Delhi Muncipal ii. those appointed on compassionate Corporation and locations thereof, category- grounds who at the time of their wise; pro mot io nlappo i nt me",t respectively are above the age of (b) the number of regular employees 40 years, are eligible for annual working in the Delhi Municipal Corporation increments on attaining the age of and whetherthese quarters are sufficient for 45 years and eligible for promotion them; 269 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 270 (c) if not, whether the Corporation has (d) 12 Nos. of quarters were allotted out formulated any scheme to construct more of turn during the last two years (April 90 to residential quarters for Its employees, if suo M.rUl. 92). the time by which these are likely to be constructed and the nurmar and the locations (e) It is not possible to give any time thereof; schedule. (d) the number of quarters allotted out of 12.00 hrs. turn during the last two years; and [ Translation] (e) the time by which the quarters are likely to be allotted to those regular employees SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI (Begusarai): who have completed more than ten years Mr Speaker,' Sir, Bihar should be brought service? underPres!dent's Rule. Hon. Home Minister should make a statement. (Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS [English] (SHRt S.B. CHAVAN) (a) There are 1722 residential quarters for the employees of MR. SPEAKER: Sit down, please. Please Delhi Munial Corporation. The category·wise take your seats. 'am calling Shri P.C. break up of which are as under:· Chacko to speak on the drought condition in Kerala Shri P .C. Chacko, you have given me Category 1. 897 a notice on the drought condition in Kerala Category 2. 602 (Interruptions) [frans/ation] Category 3. 155 SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI: Mr. Category 4. 58 Speaker, Sir, hon. Home Minister is present in the House. He should make a statement Category 5. 10 (Interruptions) These quarters are mostly located near SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV: (Jhanjharpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Chief reservoir and pumping stations spread over Justice 01 Patna got married lor the second differeni parts Delhi. 01 time (Interruptions) (b) Category·wise Nos. 01 regular SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI: Mr. employees are as under Speaker, Sir, if the Chief Justice could not get any protection, how can an ordinary 'A' '8' 'C' ｣ｩｴｩｾ･ｮ＠ of Biharbe protected? (interruptions) 126 360 18232 [English] MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. The quarters available at present are not sulficient lor the stall. (Interruptions) Cc) The Deihl Municipal Corporation MR. SPEAKER: I can talk to you, I can propose to construct staff residential quarters speak to you only alter your en:husiasm is which are likely to be completed in 3 to 5 ol/ar and not balora that. Now that you hal/e years. sat down, you have taken your seat, I will 271 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 272 allow one after the other. let it be done. ( Interruptions) What canbedone. what cannot be done, we wili decide thai when the issue comes up. MR. SPEAKER: One'afterthe other. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) [Translation] [Translation] MR. SPEAKER: You don' understad SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES that I am helping everybody. (Muzaffarpur): Mr.Speaker,Sir,lamraising a point concerning the House. The Prime ( Interruptions) Minister gave an assurance to the House on 23rd April, 1992 ... (lnterruptions) [English] MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing him SHRI P.C. CHACKO (Trichur): A very to speak, so I won' allow you too. You serious situation is being developed in Patna. speak, when I call your name. Please speak Tne Chief Justice of the patna High Court... one by one. MR. SPEAKER: I am only allowing you (Interruptions) to speak on the notice which you have given. That is also important. You have given a MR. SPEAKER: First, take your seat. notice about the drought condition in Kerala. You can speak when there is a little peace. When you are seated there you only think SHRI P.C. CHACKO: Yes, Sir. You may about yourself, but while in the chair I have permit me ... to think of all the people. I am calling others only to bring peace and later on you will be MR. SPEAKER: I am not permitting able to speak. you. Then I am permitting someone else. ( Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI (Robertsganj): SHRI MUKUl BAlKRISHNA WASNIK Mr. Speaker, Sir, eastern part of U.P. is in (Buldana): Butthis issue demands immediate the grip of severe drought. Thegeographical attention of the House. condition of Sonebhadra -Mirzapur is different and the majority of the people living there are ( Interruptions) facing drinking water shortage, inadequate irrigation facilities ... (Interruptions) You might [Translation] be knowing that even after 44 years of independence, no arrangement has been You had said earlier that investigations made to supply drinking water to the people should be made and today the position has there. Drinking water is supplie there in become clear. (Interruptions) tankers in Summer, and the Government has not been able to make any permanent [English] arrangement so far. My district is the most backward district with an area of 7388.36 MR. SPEAKER: We will go one after the s.q.kms. and its population is more than 10 other . Other Members also have their lakh. Most of the people among them are points of view. poor Gorba, Adivasitribals. They are starving like anything. On the other hand human ( Interruptions) beings and animals both are dying because of the pollution caused by affluents MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing Mr. discharged by factories like HINDAl @, HI- Chacko. TECH CARBON AND KANDOIA 273 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 274 CHEMICALS. The U.P. Government is ｾ＠ MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. discriminating against Mizapur and I ;:}m calling Shrl Vishwanath Shastri. Sonbhadra. There are no facilities olfood lUI Advasis. There is a dam constructed during SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: the time of Britishers. If it is filled, people can Hundreds of wells have dried up there so get water. There are blocks like Myorpur, Central Government should immediately look Doodhi, Chopan. Chatra. Nagwa. Rajgarh. into this problem (Interruptions) Lalganj. Ghorawal and Madlhan. This is a hilly area. All these areas are In the grip of SHRI VISHWANATH SHASTRI severe drought. The State Govemment does (Ghazipur) : Mr. Speaker, Sir,l would like to not supply foodgrains to the public there for draw yourattentiontothe attitude of Vendetta foodgrains are available In plenty in the black and the revenge adopted by Government of worker. Therefore, I urge that arrangements Uttar Pradesh in some cases. for providing foodgralns and installing hand pumps for drinkng water should be made [English] there urgentily and the small dams there should also be filled with water. Sone Pump MR. SPEAKER: You have to put It In a Project may be completed immediately and proper form. arrangements for providing drinking water may also be made. There s a big dam in [ Translation] Robertsganj Municipal ｾｯｭｭｩｴｴ･･＠ area which is nearly 200 years old. It is in a SHRI VISHWANATH SHASTRI: In this dilapidated condition. It is just like a pond of connection I would like to cite an example. water and diseases are spreading because There is an Ansari family in Yusufpur of it. Mohammad bad in Gazipur district Shri Mukhtar Ahamad Ansari who was the MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude, you President of Indian National Congress have raised a very good issue. belonged to this family Dr. Shaukatullah Ansari also belonged this facility and Asif SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Mr. Speaker, Ansari. who has been a judge in Allahabad Sir, alongwith this, my next submission is High Court, also belonged to the same that there are stone quarries in Robertsganj family. Brigadir Usman Ansari who was and Mizapur where Adivasis are working but martyred also belonged to the same family. they are not paid full wages. TheGovemment Afzal Ansari who was a legislator for three has imposed sales tax there and it is realised terms also belongs to the same family. per force. My submission is that realisation Some days back, his security guards have of slaes tax and other taxes should be been withdrawn. His brother. Mukhtar was stopped there and drinking water facility implemented in a false case. The Chief should be provided immediately to Mizrapur Ministerof Uttar Pradesh ordered an enquiry -Sonabhadra. Government should set up by C.I.D. Later on, its was withdrawn. It was industry there in order to argument followed by attachment of his house by the employment opportunities and improve the pOlice. I don't have any objection to it. Police lot of the people living there. Foodgrains went to the family of his brother Afzal Ansari should also be supplied. The situation has who is a legislator of that area and attached deteriorated completely. and keeping in his house also. The ladies of the family were view its serious nature, I urge the· Central also ill-treated by the Police and all their Government to provide necessary funds omaments were taken away. You will be without further delay so that people are surprised to know that the photograph of saved from such calamities. ｓＮ｡ｾｵ＠ Pandey who was a Memberofthisvery Hciuse for twenty years was damaged and SHRI RA.JNATH SONKAR SHASTRI trampled under feet by the police, and Holy (Saidpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a very • Quran·was torn into pieces. Subhanallah serious problems. (Interruptions) Ansari, who has been the Chairman was also 215 Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Written Answers 276 iii-treated. The present Chairman of the [ Translation) Municipality, Shri Ayyaz-ul-Haq Ansari ｷ｡ｾ＠ ill trated and his scooter was seized. POII(;'" 3HRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera): took away as many belongings as they could Mr. Speaker..,sIr. this is not the only incident. but the list of tha articles was not handed In Uttar Pradesh. over to the family. All this was done by Varanasi and Ghazipur police together. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: It is not On the other hand, the leaders of our enough to write to seek the reply party Shri Surendra Prasad Rai, Kamla (Interruptions) Singh and Jhinguri Ram Gupta were killed during the las! elections. Their murderers . Mr. Speaker, Sir, this issue will linger on haYe not yet been arrested. All this is going for months, if reply is sought through on underthe patronage of Police. Thus Uttar correspondence .. the hon Minister of Home Pradesh Government is taking adlon with a Affairs says that reply will be received feeling 01 revenge and malice. Hon. HOllle through correspondencs .... (lnterruptions) Minister may please look into it. The • shadow· 01 Shri Alzal Ansari was withdrawn [English) ten days ago, which has endangerd his life. There is a risk to his life every moment. I urge SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: The reply the Government such an attitude of revenge is not sufficient. (Interruptions) and malice towards a family which has been adive at a national level is not good. They [ Translation] should provided with full security and justice (Interruptions) SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: This statement of the hon. Minister 01 Home SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA (Madhubaol): Affairs is not sufficient... (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, hon. Home Minister may speak about the behavior meted out to a MR. SPEAKER: You please speak in legislator and if the leader of the Opposition low tone as nothing is audible. also wants to speak, he may. Home Minister may be asked to reply ... (lnterruptions) ( Interruptions) (English] SHRI ｾｉｎ＠ PATHAK (Ahmedabad): Secretary of a Minister of Uttar Pradesh was SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura): assaulted and looted in Gujrat (Interruptions) Why is the hon. Home Minister not responding? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You please first take seat. Have you decided to continue in this [Translation) manner today? Hso, then go ahead. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI ( Interruptions) (Jhansi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister of Home Aft airs is replying to the submission MR. SPEAKER: When I am on my legs, of the hon Member ... (lnterruptions) youplease sit down. First you take your seat. [English) (Interruptions)" THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS [English) (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): Sir. the maximum that I can do is to get the fun information from MR. SPEAKER: Now nothing is going the hon. Member; write to the Chief Minister on record. of U P and request him to send the reply. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions)" ·Not recorded 277 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 278 (Translation] MR. SPEAKER: 'Shri Nitish Kumar, PleaSt; be silent and also ask your colleagues MR. SPEAKER: Listen, what all the I" r". Silent. Minister of Home Affairs has said ... Please take your seat. ( Interruptions) [English] [English] MR. SPEAKER: I have really decided to SHRI SUNIL DUn (Bof!lbay North allow many of the back-benches to speak West): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am very grateful today. But all of you are speaking together. that you gave me an opportunity to speak. So, nothing is being recorded. You can call me that I am one of the back benchers that you gave me this opportunity. ( Interruptions) In this august House, we have discussed so many problems prevailing in our country. MR. SPEAKER: Please say it one after We have discussed Bofors. We have other. discussed Baburi Masjid-RamJanambhoomi. We have discussed drought. We discussed ( Interruptions) so many other burning problems that are prevailing in our country. MR. SPEAKER: Let me help you. The first and foremost thing is that we [ Trans/ation) missed one of the finest days, that is Earth Day, that was on 22nd April. That was taken MR. SPEAKER: Enough is enough. Now over by Bofors. Nobody mentioned about please be silent for two minutes. Do not rise Earth Day on that particular day. to speak like this. You should also not speak (Interruptions) while sitting. If all of you rise one after the other then it will be difficult for me to conduct On this Good Earth what onslaught is the proceedings. happening, It Is before us. We call a human being a rational animal. We are talking about (English] . rational animals. But we have n'Wer talked about animals. We have never ever Now let me know how do I conclude, mentioned about animals. We have been how do I conduct. (Interruptions) talking about drought. We have been talking about people who are not getting water. We MR. SPEAKER: I have no objection to have neverever mentioned about the animals continue like this. For all the time to come, not getting water, animals not getting fodder you continue like this; I have no objection. and how the animals will survive because the drought Is everywhere. ( Translation) I would like to bring to the notice of this SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South august House that we are not talking about Deihl): The hon. Minister had promised to the wild life. We are talking about the wild life make a statement about Bihar. (Interruptions) in the zoos. We have 41 zoos that are run by the public sector. We have three zoos in the MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. What private sector. The condition of zoos is one are you doing? of the most rotten. In such conditions out animals are living In the zoos. Nobody Is Shri Sunil Dutt, y.ou please speak. talking about the zoos today. We have a national policy on this that all these animals . (Interruptions) should be In bigger cage so that they live In 279 Written Answers MAY7,1992 Written Answers 280 comfort. You must see the conditions in MR. SPEAKER: I will caU you later. which the animals are now living. I wish that some Members sitting in this august Houstl I am going to call Krishna Sahiji. But she must visit the zoo and see the COnditions of may not get up until and unless I sit down in the animals, how they are being treated and my seat. , know what she wants to raise on how they are dying. There are so many the floor of this House. deaths in zoos. The animals .in the zoos suffer from various diseaseS. They suffer SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: You have from tuberculosis, they get paralytic attacks, given a ruling also. they have sores and yet there is no treatment. There are no tranquilising drugs to make [Translation] them faint so that the doctors can go near them and treat them. We find our zoos In MR. SPEAKER: First let me conclude. such conditions. You speak later on. Please listen to me. If you do not listen to me and continue with I would also like to mention here that the your point, you will reach nowhere. Krishna zoo is not meant for entertainment of the Sahiji wants to raise one matter Ort the floor public alone. It has other serious aims of of this House. This is the hour when we conserving and propagating endangered transact the business that is not listed. Now, species, sensilising people through education there are provisions of the Constitution regarding the importance of wildlife and which stipulate that you cannot discuss conducting research on animal behaviour. certain issues even if you give two days' But just see the way how visitors behave notice. I am afraid what she is going to say, when they go over to zoos. They show will lead to something which is going to be chappals and sticks to the animals and they very very complicated. And it is going to lay throw stones at them. This sort of bad a very bad precedent in the country. It may behaviour should not be allowed. H the create more and more complications ... visitors misbehave with the animals, they must be punished and put behind the bars. ( Ints"uptions) (Interruptions) You are human beings. Please listen to me when I am talking about animals. MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. Unless We have committees of Members of I complete, please do not get up. Parliament visiting Babri Masjid, Ram Janambhoomi, etc. In the same way, That is why I am asking this House Members of Parliament should also visit whether this House would like to discuss zoos and see the conditions in which the such matters without giving the notice. E',en animals are living. This is my humble if the matters are complicated, even if .the submission Sir. Members are agitated over certain points, there are certain norms which have to be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE followed in the House. If you do nol follow MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT those norms and if you respond to the (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): Sir, you must incident without considering its implications comment on this issue. in the long run, they are going to create complications among various institutions. MR. SPEAKER: Well, this is a very good We have to decide whether it would be issue and we would like to thank Sunilji for necessary to discuss those issues or not. It raising it. It is our duty to see that what he has would be necessary for senior. Members in said is followed and implemented. I think the House and all those who have long term everybody joins him. interests of the country and its institutions in mind, to consider it and then do it. I am not SHRI .P.C. CHACKO (Trichur): Sir, I saying, "Don't do It.· , am also not saying, • want to raise the issue on drought. . You do it." I am just warning about the 281 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 282 implications involved in it. Hyou do notfollow matters, there should not be double that kind of a thing, it will create furth,,' ;1;,n'lClrds. Until now, what has been problems. There are enough problem!> ""\,; '" ,t't-'Uiling has convinced my party at least us. Whether we would like to create one that this party has double standards in these more problems, that Is the question that I matters and they try to use one party against want you to consider.• the other. This is not the right way. SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): Therefore, I entirely agree with you on Mr. Speaker, Sir, the point that you have just this. I would say that it is principally the made cannot be disputed by anyone in this responsibility of the treasury benches to see House. I am entirely in agreement with you that in this House, predominantly, matters that so far as this House is concemed, even relating to the Central Govemment are in its discussions, it should keep in mind discussed. This is what Is indicated in every proprieties relating to various institutions of rule and the conventions also. By and large the Govemment Therefore,yesterday, when the matters relating to the Central we had discussed with you in Your Chamber, Govemment or coming within the purview of this particular issue which perhaps the hon. the Central Government alone should be lady 'Member wants to discuss,l agreed that raised. This is what I want to say. this is a matter which should not be raised here without prcpernotice and without proper THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS information. (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I would like to strongly refute an allegation made by the It happened that in this particular case, hon. Leader of the Opposition that the the Government had assured the House Govemment is having double standards. that they would come back to the House with What I had stated was this. If some hon. information. They used the words 'come Members clearly say that some Members back to the House with information'. I am not have been threate ned is it not my responsibly insisting even upon that by all the time to write to them? It is not merely a question stressing it. I am stressing for the of writing it. (Interruptions) Government, for my colleagues on this side and of course for my own party colleague& [ Translation} also that we cannot have double standards in this matter. . SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonra): How will it work? Today, for instance ,an issue was raised which was related purely to the law and SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Why will it not order of certain States. Immediately, the work. h will work very well. Home Minister replied. He stood upto say that he has ascertained from the State [English1 Government. I would say that the issues of this kind should not be raised in this House Actually, it is my primary responsibility and the Government certainly cannot reply to find out from the State Government and to every particular matter relating to law and there is nothing wrong in it I do not attribute order. It depends upon certain issues. I can any insinuations against them. h is merely understand issues relating to atrocities on writing to the Chief Minister to please look harijans, atrocities on women, the issues of into the matter and Hhe would like to report this kind which the House has been raising to me, certainly he is at liberty to do it. and not law and order issues of this nature. Sir, now about the point which the hon. Sir, I am merely saying that I am entirely Leader of the Opposition has stated and I In agreement with your counsel to the House am in full agreement with him that there are and I want to emphasise that it is the certain issues where the conventions will Government's responsibility that in these have to be followed in this House, I am very 263 Written Answers MAY 7, 1992 Writton Answers 284 hapcy ｾｨ｡ｴ＠ the leader of the Opposition intorvone. Even thon the hon. Ministc)( of leE:;: So vory ｳＡｲ｣ｮｧｾｹ＠ that matters which are tho Home Affairs volunteered hlmsel1 to got the cOl,cern of the Slate Governments should details from the Chief Minister and pass on nol be raised in this House. But there are to the House. wider issues which the hon. leader of the My submission is thaI when the Central Opposition has referred to. There is a Government takes the responsibility on to conflict of interest between the different Ｑｴｾｬｦ＠ in any matter and the hon. Minister of institutions laid down in the Constitution. H Home gives a statement there on in the these institutions were to be wor1 SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. (interruptions) Speaker, sir, I do not know why they are feeling uneasy now (Interruptions) SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: That Is why I am aprlsing the House with the If he Is Criminal, then the charge must be convention that whenever a Govemment 'proved (Interruptions) I do not know the man gives such a statement, the Minister of Home personally but the members of his family Affairs should immediately clarify the things right from Dr. Ansari to Shri Faridul Ansari because giving rise to such confusion and 287 Wrifen AnsWfn MAY 7,1992 misconception would not be desirable. I do ara also running. lIB nelthergood ont.. ｰｾ＠ not know to wildt "Atulll nlS submis;; .. ,,, '" 01 IIII:j GUVtlllllll"lll IUJI tI,t. f'H.Osition to' based no facts, he mult be knowing better adopt double standards because the whether he has got any such report; however, Congress is in power at the centre, other the submission of a Governor cannot be political parties are also In power In the taken as a newspaper report. The submission States. However, the strategy of double of the Governor is neither the outcome of an standards is being adopted. allegation made by a Member not it is a dispute of the political parties; either the Mr. Speaker, Sir, the question Is that Governororthe Chief Minister is correct and what procedure should be adopted to raise the decision will have to be taken by Shri the issue. If the matter is serious then is it S.B. Chawan We cannot say that both are possible to sllspend the Question Hour?, correct; not is it possible that Mr. Speaker Can the matter not be raised at 12 ' 0' clock Suggests the way and we keep silent over in the noon and if it can be raised at noon, it. We may keep quite but the people of the the matter is quite significant and attradsthe country would not keep quite over it. attention of the House then it makes no difference if the Members whether of the Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would seriously congress or of the opposition interrupt. But request you that in order to continue the there be some difference. whenever a proceedings of the House peacefully, the member rise. you give him opportunity to House should not be made inactive and thus speak and this in tum gives to a discussion, creating the situation of dullness in the House. you have been adopting this method to start In regard to the matters related to the a discussion and I think that you have started Governor and Chief Justice the House has a good practice. However, uproars do take full right, rather it is the duty of the House to place in the beginning and I think that you discuss it. Now I leave the matter to the hon. thoughtfully allow this. MInIster of Home Affairs that he should give • statement. But I would submit to Mr. MR.SPEAKER: I cannot stop It . Speaker, that it is a serious matter and the people would react unfavourabiy; hence the SHR! ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: So matkif ahould be clarified; for which it is that they may give vent to their pent up necessary that the hon. Minister of Home feelings, after which they calm down and Affairs gives a statement. the proceedings of the House continue. " that far·sighledness in there. I have nothing MR. SPEAKER: The only doubt in my to say. mind now is whether such matters should be raised only during Zero Hour? 61.:t, Mr. Speaker, Sir, why we wishes scenes of other type. Can we not unite in (Interruptions) regard 10 the procedure of raising the matters? I do know that it is difficult even for SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. my own party to agree to it. As soon as the Speaker, Sif, the matters will be cntinue to be proceedings begin, if a Members says that raised in this House. the matte; is quite serious and Question House should be suspended, then the MR. SPEAKER: Yes, the matters will discussion becomes so long that the raised. questior.s to be raised that day are suspended and the Ministers who are supposed to give SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: ThiS replies to the concerned questions take a House will and should reflect the hopes, sigh of felief. Replying questions in ttl< expectations and also disappointments of fiouse is as tough as passing a test. The the people of the country. I do want to draw Members who want to raise questions should any line of demarcation, the centre has a do It ona by one at 1200 hrs, in the noon. Mr. particular jurisdiction, the State Governments Speaker. Sir, there should be a proper 289 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAI(A) tI\',ltten Amwers 290 ｾｯ｣･､ｵｲ･＠ .. and same standard for all. Just SHRI SOMNATH CHATERJEE: From ',low Shri Advani alleged thatthe Government whom he has to take permission, I do not adopted double standards but I sometimes know. Ii is nol his function. tie can make a feel that the Government have no standard, report to the President of India. And it is for the President to deecide what steps to be [English] ta:"6n. The Governor calls a newspaper and gives an ｩｮｾ･ｲｶｩ･ｷｴｯｴｨ･＠ Press witlJ orwithout SHRI SOMNATH Ci-lATTERJEE permissions from the Home Minister, I do (Bolpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a matter of not know. How can he do that? grave importance. I have aiso been in my ... (Interruptions) humble waytrying!o raise Ihis iS5u6v,menever such questions have come up before the House. We have been saying that matteres SHRI PRAFUL PATEL ( Bhandara): which are eminently to be decided in the The conduct of the Govemor cannot be State Assemblies or by the State discussed here ... (Interruptions) Governments in view of the Constitutional provisions that we have, wtlere It-jere is a clear demarcation of ttle powers and MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Patel is right. We functions as also the du!!es of different are not trying 10 discuss the judiciary here. Government in Centre and in the States, this But we are trying to discuss the Governor. House should not be corverted into an extended Assembly. And the Jl;r:sdiction of the StateGovernment shoulc not be usurped SHRi SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: What here. is happening here? Every han. Member is discussing that. On the basis oftheGovemor's So far as certain iSSues are ccncern, we Report, they are discussing the conduct of have felt disturbed 2nd Members have felt the Chief Justice and the conduct of the disturbed. Therefore, although (p':lY be they Chief Minister of a State. How can you are better decided or dls::'usSGd elsewhere, ignore this? Therefore, I am saying that it cannot be avoided that the; 3:S:: 'Nould be thsre should be no double standards. This is raised here. And wr,sn such issues a matter which may be avoided. Unless it is concerning minorities, SChedClied C:aste and such an important issue concerning a Scheduled Tribes, women. ｴｲＺ｢｡ｬｾ＠ etc, have wlnerable section of the community in this been raised, they cannot De just ignored country- this is a matter of which we should because they are vitaily c()r1cerr:ec with the not deal with in any event -naturally. I agree, wellbeing of the people of thiS COU:1try. Take that a proper procedure should be evolved. Ihecase of someconf!:c!between:hejudiciary But, if an attempt is made not to allow and and the executive, apparen!!y aliegedconflict, If it is even throttled at the threshold itself, we do not know. The Governor goes to the raising of such issues or even preliminary Press. It s something very unique. If there is discussions on those issues will only any conflict between the executive and the create complications. You may allow some judiciary, how does a Governor invite the distu r b21ces for a ｷｨｩｬｾ＠ to get the Members Press, even for that matter one particular exhausted, asShri Vajpayeeji has suggflsted. newspaper, and give an interview? Has he I do know, but the procedure has to be laid taken permission from the Home Minister or down" r. you are allowing some cases, you the Law Minister to go to the Press with should allow either in ail cases orda not allow regard to this? Here that is more in any case. Therefore, you have to follow disconcerting. Since we can:1otdec,de sitting that prinCiple, and I am saying this because here in the absence of .... (In!ernptions) of the importance of the issue. Kindly allow SHRI LAL K. ADVANL Wr;) did he lake it to be raised. But ordinarily such matters permission from the Heme Minister? should net be allowed to be raised. That is ... (Interruptions) our submission. (Interruptions) 291 Written Answers MAY 7. 1992 Wrfrten Answers . 292 [ Translation] This way the present situation could haY;, .' been averted. SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the question is about the (English) procedure. In this way It appears that this important question does not come under the MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mukul Wasnlk. purv:ew of the centre. You can consult us in that case. Shri. Chandra Shekharji and Shri SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: Somnathji also mentioned about this Mr. Speaker, Sir,' agree with your opinion question. I can understand your problem. In which you have Just now expressed ... tact,l know about the law and order situation. (Interruptions)" Situation of epidemic in the State has been discussed in the House. I understand that it MR. SPEAKER: This is not going on is a very important question for you record ... .. (Interruptions) ... It Is a very serious matter and we are not clarifying it and if Shrimati (Interruptions)' Sahiji want to raise it then it is really an important question. Shri Chavan is listening SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: to it. The questions has come in the Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with your opinion . newspapers. The problem for you is that a where you have just now stated that no few days back some Member issues should be raised in this ... (Interruptions) and there is a provision in House (Interruptions). the procedure that such question should be raised, and it is alright. Home Minister might MR. SPEAKER: I have not said no have receilJed information in the moming at issues should be raised. about 7.00 a.m. or 8 a.m. about the question etc. Some people were saying that Governor SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: said so while sitting in the Central Hall, but Which are going to create problems for tne I am not aware 01 it. No Governor shQuld important institutions in the country in the participate in partisan politics ... long run, and in this process we will try to (Interruptions) Governor of Nagaland .. Mr. cooperate with this House, with the Chair in Thomas functioned according to the all possible manner. But I recollect the views constitution and later on he was asked to expressed by Advaniji just two days back on qUite. Those who participate in partisan this issue where he had stated that the politics are more liked by the Centre. Was it matter in Bihar is a very serious matter and not duty of the Home Minister that it such a this House should take a very very serious question was coming forward, he would view of it and the Government should come have sought permission from you and given forward with a statement. This opinion has suo·moto statement? .... (Interruptions) changed a little . .. (Interruptions) [English] MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry, I must be fairto all the Members in the House. Without MR. SPEAKER: I am very respectfully information you do not do that. submitting that that is not the procedure. SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: ( Transl9tion] Secondly, this problem has come t;p today only because in the history ot:' ':ountry, SHRI RABI RAY: .. (InterruptionS) .. thisisforthefirst!imethat such' ':"nave Resentment is on both sides.ltcanbeastep appeared in the Press and, !hi ., IJre, we to remove the resentment. I would only say are not going to press. We will follow whatever that the Hon. Minister should have met you decision is taken by the Chair. But this before 11 • 0 • clock and you could have problem has arisenbecauseforthefirsttime allowed him under.Rules and Procedure. in the history of the country such type of 293 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Wlitte-n Answers 294 reper> ｾ｡ｳ＠ appeared in the press where the responsibility of the ｃｾｮｬｲ･＠ and I tr.;nk the Governcf has confirmed the report I would Centre ought to uphold an" discharge rts only like to urge upon you that when matters responsibility. This is my s"rJ''',SSion. olthis nal;;recome upyou fl ..... t: Iv ld!\1:1 Inem very seriously. When allegations are levelled [ Translation] against Governors, there also serious note should be taken. MR. SPEAKER: First of ail, I would like to thank all the senior Members forthe VI('WS MR. SPEAKER: That is exactly the point. they have expressed here and also to the junior Members, who have helped in SHRI INDERJIT (Darjeeling): Mr. conducting the business oy maintaining the Speaker, Sir, the i!'su(l before us is of grave order in the house. I would like to bring it your Importance in wgard to !ho functioning of our notice that you may have observed thJt House and, in fact, the functioning of our nobody has been prevented to discuss any Constitution. I agree with you that we should issue here but thare are some such issues try and avoid raising issues which could which could have been discussed in a better complicate national matters. Nevertheloss, I way if taken according to a d:ff.3rent dO, think there is need !cor;;:; te, sit down and procedure. For example If it has boen a draw up certain ground rules in regard to subject and if a proper notice would have issues which can be raised here and issues been given in this regard then we cou Id have which cannot be raised here. I agree entirely called all the leaders would sit together in with Alaili that there is need to ensure that Business AdvisOry Committee and their there are no double standards on any such opinion would have been taken and thiS matters. matter would have been taken under Rule 193 and Information collected from the I do recall having witnessed the Government and presented before you. functioning of this House from the Press Later on, if everybody would have been in Gallery for about thirty years. I remember favour a discussion, that matter would have the days when during Panditji's time no issue discussed.. But we would not do so. 11 we concerning law and order In the States was take up the serious matter connected with it ever allowed to be raised in the House and althe nick ofthe time it wou Id in no way prove whenever the issue was raised, they said helpful to any party or any person or to the this is an issue concerning the State country orto the Constitution. So the subject Government, this is a State subject and it was put before you. I believe, if it can be cannot be permitted here. Nevertheless, I discussed properly we should not desist, but am merely saying what used to happen. In the only thing is that the discussion should this particular case, I would venture to make be conducted in a proper manner. If you a submission. The issue in Bihar is a very extend some help in discussing the subject important and a very grave issue. It concerns properly, we can definitely arrange a the functioning of the Constitution and I do discussion in better way. think that the Centre is changed with the responsibility of ensuring that the Constitution I am allowing you to participate in the is upheld, that the Constitution functions in discussion today, but I would like to tell you all the States. That is why under articles 356, a few things, that is, you have not to speak the Central Govemment is empowered to against any judge or any Govemor. Keeping ensure this and dismiss governments. in view this thing, anybody can participate in the discussion. You might say how can we discuss In this way then you can discuss it in 13.00 hrs. the house ... We all should uphold the Constitution. SH.RI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: That When there is a controversy between two we can speak only against the Bihar institutions, I may merely say that, it is the Government? 295 Written Answers MAY?,1992 Written Answers 296 MR. SPEAKER: We. the politicians are Supreme Court and High Court and the always open to criticism ... (lnterruprions) Chief Minister. It .... ould also mean an imbalance and it would bedifficul! to answer MRSPEAKER: lama/soot Che opinion afterwiJII1:, Therefore, it you say that you that there may be any Pdrly ｰｏｾＬＬＧ＠ in Bihar would speak against each and every body but it is very important for us to listen to them and set the next Governor right etc., would and that is why if something is to be said, it not be in the fitness of things. It would also should be spoken in a manner that it should create so many complications. So , would not have the texture of opposing, it will not be like to tell the hon. Members who are In good, and it would be very differenlto maintain favour of raising the matter, that it would be balance. So it would be better if such very difficult for me to interrupt you every discussion is not held during this hour. I am now and then. saying that had you given a notice properly we could have hold a discussion. [English] SHR I LAL K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, You shall have to consider this fact. I would humbly urge you that the system suggested by you just now should be (Interruptions) discussed. Shri Mukul Wasnik has said something and if he may remember I had [Translation] said that what has been discussed in the Rajya Sabha yesterday and whatever we MR. SPEAKER: Nilish Kumarji, just aminute. have hear about if it is true then it is very Even after so much of discussion, I would like serious thing. Further, I also said that there ask you whether you are readyfordiscussion. is a provision in the constitution that if the Constitutional order is disturbed, I don' (Interruptions) consider it as disturbed. Idon't know whether it is a fact. If it is not a fact, the person who SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Bam): First, the has given publicity to it is a big culprit. I have Government should make a statement. said this thing here because there is a need (Interruptions) that it should be discussed here, but before that the Government should provide us the [English] authentic information and the discussion should not be held only on the basis of MR. SPEAKER: It IS no! a matter of newspaper reports. scoring points against each other, it is not a matter of just criticising MR. SPEAKER: I am also of that SHRt CHANDRA JEET Y4DAV opinion, as I said that nothing should be (Azamgam): Why don't you call a meeting spoken against the Govemor, Judges of the of_the SAC. as you have given suggestion 297 Written Answers VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Written Answers 298 1'0 do so? Now, we are getting extremely Keeping in view both of them you have confused. You want to elicit the opinion of presented one fact before all of us. Since the entire House. How wHI the entire House you have said yourself that this may have agree? many aspects and after discussion, some points may arise which might not be very [English] good, it would have been better if the Home Minister had orought some thing only after Please call a meeting of the Business obtaining all the facts then in that case the Advisory Committee as you have given one Chief Minister and the State Government suggestion and let the matter be placed would have got opportunity to have discussion there. of a very serious nature on that. Sir, there are three organs of the Government the Chief MR. SPEAKER: I had already done Minister, theGovemorandtheChief Justice. that, I had invited leaders of the parties. I am Two organs have already been paralysed, sorry that a few leaders could come and how would then the Government function? others could not come. I had already done So, instead oftaking it light!y, the Government that and I had discussed this matter in the should take it seriously. Leaders' Meeting. I wanted to discuss it with others also. This is already done. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. Speaker, Sir, what difficulty does the Home SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: Just Minister have in making statement on the implement the deciSion. situation as has been suggested by Advani Ji and Vishwanath Pratab Singhji. MR. SPEAKER: Their dacision also is something like this. There are some matters MR. SPEAKER: No, no. which cannot be shut out from discussion. But there are complication also. I can realise SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: There Doth lr1t3 vievJs. shouid not be any difficulty in making a statement on that. It is nct that he wil! unravel (Interruptions) the ultimate truth but whatever infonnation he has with him, he should place it in the MR. SPEAKER: Your matter is very House. (Interruptionsj ｓＸｲｩｾｊｓＮ＠ I am conscious of it, I am going to ailo'.\< you but don't get up every now and SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: then, The Government has already stated that it will ｭ｡ｾＮ･＠ a statement in the Huuse. SHRi SOBHANADREEWARA RAO VADDE (ViJayawada): I have given notice [Eng/ishj cn another matter, Sir. SHRI S,B. ｃｈａｖａｎＩｾ＠ Sir, I cannot l Translation) possibly disclose the information that is with the Government. It is not in public interest MR. SPEAKER: There will be a to do it. The information lhat I hava is from discussion, but it Will be according to rules. two or three sources, but I do no! have the version oi the State Government with me. I SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH will have to get it from State Govemment if (ratehpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have kept the Speaker is going to allow any discussion. in mind the right to have discussion in the ｔｨｾ＠ 'Zero Hour' cannot be used for any kind House in balanced way as also you have of discussion on such a serious issue. So, kepI in mind the delicate relations of our ultimately, it is for you, Sir, to take the various democratic institutions with one deciSion. another and I agree that in such a matter it is very difficult for you to take decision. MR. SPEAKER: I am Just in between ｾ＠ Written Answers MAY 7,1992 Re. Bofors Issue 300 .. the Scyl/aand Charybdis. H Idonotallowthe where he was declared dead. E;)fller, when discussion, people may say that I am not the auction of liquor was going on, there was allowing the discussion; If I allow the a thereat on his Itfe and he was given proper discussion, the objection would be that it is security. But. aftarthe auction was over, the for hitting the institution. That is why, since security was withdrawn. Anyway he was all the Members have spoken very very well-known to me. He was a man of responsibly, I think, we can waltforsometlme Orissa and he was the son of my very old and if the information Is with the hon. Home friend, Shrl Trilochan Misra. Minister , it can be ... Sir, he was also a very young and SHRIS.B.CHAVAN: I also request you energetic officer having clean sense of to call the meeting of the leaders once again. responsibility. He was very loyal to his duties and to the Government throughout. MR. SPEAKER: I will request that they should encourage us by accepting our Now, through you, I urge upon the invitation. Government that they should come forward with a proposal to give adequate SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Sit, the compensation to his family and to old parents. institutions are not badly hit simply by a This is my demand before you. (Interruptions) discussion. Even the reports that are appearing affect the institutions" their prestige MR. SPEAKER: You have not given and their creditability. Therefore, merely not anything In writing. having a discussion is no way protecting those institutions. But. I do not see why the [ Translation] Govemment, which allows its own Members to raise this issue, persist in it and leel happy do not know what you are going to when our side also raises the same issue, is raise. }. reluctant to come forth to the House with a statement, on the basis of which a proper discussion can take place. Now, a demand 13.16 hrs has been made by me, by Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singhji and by Shri Mukul Wasnik RE. BOFORS ISSUE that a statement must precede a discussion on this issue. I think, he is also willing to do [ Translation] it provided you advise him to do It. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES MR.SPEAKER: I am sitting in the Chair, (Muzaffarpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not but I am very junior Member. I would rather raising any controversial pOints. On the 23rd like to gave the advice of all the senIor April the Prime Minister made a statement in Members in my Chamber and then we will this House. That statement was made with decide. Until that time, may I request you, reference to a news item that had appeared Madam, not to raise it? in the newspaper on 22nd April in regard to the Bofors issue and the han. Prime Minister ( Interruptions) had not come to the House on that day and on the 23rd April an announcement to the DR. KARTHIKESWAR PATRA eHect was made on behalf ofthe ruling party (Batasore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, yesterday, the that the Prime Minister would come. Before Excise Commissioner of Punjab, when he he come to the House, I had written a long was on his way to his office, was gunned letter to him on the 22nd and during the down by two terrorists of Punjab . :is driver discussion which took place In the House on was injured and his gunman was also Il)jured. the 23rd April the Prime Minister referred to The spray of bullets were on the car. His my letter terming it as Georgian Christian. injured driver has taken him to the hospital His statement was not only confined to my 301 RB. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) RB. Bofors /sSoo 302 Ietterbut he spoke ower things also to which how many tirTldS the discussion, have taken I will reply. Mr. Speaker. Sir. I hao received place. You mily speak. the Prime Minister 's letter yesterday in the morning at 7.30 in which ... [English) • MR. SPEAKER: No, pleU8..... THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NAB I AZAD): SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Mr. Will you yield for a moment? Speaker, Sir, it is not my question .... (Interruptions) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I am not yielding at this moment. [English] SHRIGHULAM NABIAZAD: I am also THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE not yielding. This is the eighth time in this MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH Session, you have raised this issue. MOHAN DEV): How many times Bofors would be tiiscussed? We want to know it [ Translation] from the han. Speaker. It cannot go on like that. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: The Government ｷｾｮｴｳ＠ to suppress the truth. [ Translation] How can It suppress It? SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Th& [English) discussion shall continue as long as it is necessary. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura): We will have to discuss It. What you have Mr. Speaker, Sir, even on the 23rd the said last week? You have assured that within same thing had happened with me. It took seven days, the Prime Minister will give the one hour and 10 minute to allow me to make information. (interruptions) a 10 minute statement. Mr. Speaker, Sir.. it is my question. Please listen to me. SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): I am sorry that the Parliamentary Affairs [English) Minister should have intervened in this manner and saidln the blatant manner, "' am MR. SPEAKER:You should come under also not going to yield". After all, when my some rule. colleague, Shri George Fernandes stood up to make, It was with the permisSion of the [ Translation} Chair. It is an established convention that if he yields, anyone else can intervene. But if SHRI GEORGE FERNANDEES: Under he does not yield, then another Member which rule ｳｾｯｵｬ､＠ I come? cannot say, "I am also not going to yield." When this is said by the Minister of MR. SPEAKER: You tell us. Parliamentary Affairs ... SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I am MR. SPEAKER: I did not know what he telling you. I would like to say that this is not was going to raise. I was taken by surprise. my question. The statement the Prime Minister had made in the HOuse ... $HRI LAL K. ADVANI: But you permitted him to make a submission. I would like to MR. SPEAKER: Mr. George, lengthy plead with you and plead with the Government discussions have taken place on this Issue. also in this particular case that the Prime Discussions have taken place 5-6 times. Minister has told this House that as far as the The Minister of Parliamentary Affairs wiU leU detailed questions that have been posed in 303 Re. Bofors Issue MAY7,1992 Re. Bofors Issue 304 the course of the debate, whether by Shri Again breach of privilege notice was George Fernandes or otheres, he would given, Again it was tried to be discussed. reply to them. The letter is there. Again you are trying MR. SPEAKER: That is not COfrt:tcl. He to discuss, has replied to his questions. Can we do like this? That Is the question. SHRILAL K. ADVANI: The rapl)' has You should have waited. You can do it at one come to Mr. Jaswant Singh also. It is in the go. You can discuss it for any number of fitness of things to see what he has said. He hours. But every day you are raising this said, all the details are not available with me, matter. at the moment. What is available with me, I am giving it to the House. And supposing you give a letter, the Prime Minister replies to you. You say that Whatever else is not avallable,l will look this is not replied. You want a reply. Again a at the files and give the reply. reply is given. Then you interpret it in some other fashion. How can it go in like this? My point is that let the Government conSider, is It a matter only between the [ Translation] Prime Minister and Mr. George Fernandes, and the Prime Minister and Mr. Jaswant SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: First of Singh. all you please listen to me. The letter which I had given was not the subject of a personal I can appreciate that the properway can discussion. In that letter I had written. be found but the question that have been raised in that debate still remain unanswered [English] eve'n after these two letters and, therefore, an opportunity should be found and the • I am listing here below some of the Government Itself should be in search of an questions with a request that they may be opportunity to see that all the misgivings are answered by you In the statement you are removed and all the questions are properly due to make in the House tomorrow." answered. Please do not try to shut this House. Please do not do it. It is not in your [ Translation] interest and, therefore, I wish you permit Mr. George Fernandes and my colleagues also, The Prime Minister had finished the those who want to speak on this, to speak on discussion on that day. this and fix up time for that. (Interruptions) [English] MR. SPEAKER: This matter was discussed in the Business Advisory He was to put it to a discussion. Committee. It was decided that it would be discussed in the House. It was discussed [ Translation1 for seven hours or eight hours, I suppose. He had said that he would give reply to Again this was raised in the zero hour questions only after going through the files. time. The reply that has been given now does not give any answer to my questions about This was again discussed for two three which the Prime Minister tiad promised to hours. give a reply. H that promise is not fuHilled, then where should Igo? (Interruptions)Then This was raised again in zero hour. where should I leave the question Again it was discussed. (Interruptions) How should the matter be 305 Re. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) Re. Bofors Issue 306 raised, kindly enlighten me. (Interruptions) allow me to speak.(/nterruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I gave you 8 hours' SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: time for discussion. This is happening continuously. We have never been afford of any discussion. it was ( Interruptions) Shri Jasant Singh who pointed out that day that he was relieved that the prime Minister [English] is not involved.(/nterruptions) SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I will Justtake (Buldhana): We discussed this matterseveral only two minutes. (Interruptions) times. You have rightly pointed out that this was disclJssed several times. We are aware SHRI MRUTYUNJAYA NAYAK that no reply is going to be to their total (Phulbani): What they are saying is absolutely satisfaction. This cannot be raised again and incorrect. again. If we are concerned about institutions at the State level, are we not concerned SHRI PARITHVIRAJ D. CHAVAN about the institutions at the Centre? This (Karad): We have given a notice. issue is being raised only to malign the prime Minister. The prime Ministerwill reply. He will ( Interruptions) never be satisfied. it cannot to be the satisfaction 01 the Opposition. They will be SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: satisfied only when the Congress is out of Sir, that day when the Prime Minister made power and that satisfaction we are not the statement saying that he is not involved prepared to give to them. In it, Shri Jaswant Singh expressed his satisfaction. He said that he was relieved SHRI NIRMAL KANTI that the Prime Minister is not involved in that CHATTERJEE(Dumdum): We do not want affair. But every day they come out with to malign. Therefore, we want the Papers to something new. be laid on the Table. ( Interruptions) SHRI PRAFUL PATEL (Bhandra): What do they do during that time? SHRI KODIKKUNIL SURESH(Adoor): We will not allow him to raise the Befors issue. We want to raise some other issue. SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: It was their dream to expose. It was their ( Interruptions) dream to malign Shri Rajiv Gandhi. They could not malign Shri RajivGandhi. Nowthey [ Translation] are trying to malign Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao. This cannot be allowed. Continously SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): There is this is happening. (Interruptions) no import of his preadings on the ending party. MR. SPEAKER: Now, let us hear Shrl Jaswant Singh. . [EngNsh) ( Interruptions) SHRI MUKUL BAlKRISHNA WASNIK; On the earlier issue, we had shown some SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Chittorgarh): restraint because of the feelings expressed Sir,lthink there are two or three valid points. by the qhair.(/nterruptions) There is some validity in these points. Of course, we did discuss it earlier. But these MR. SPEAKER: Let ShriJaswant Singh points have to be answered. They should speak now. 307 Re. Bofors Issue MAY 7,1992 Re. Bofors Issue 308 SHRI PRAFUl PATEL: He should not like to bring to your notice that there are speak on the Befors subject. provisions ana provisions In the rule book. not at one place but in many places. , am MR. SPEAKER: leI uS hear Shn Jaswant reading from Rule 58 (v). 11 says; Singh at least for two minutes. ltll us hear him what he has 10 say. Plea:;t; take your • the motion stlall not revive seats. discussion on a matter which has been OISCUSStlO in the same (Interruptions) session;" MR. SPt;AKER: Let us hear ShriJaswant I am reading Rule 186 Which says: Singh for two minutes. • it shall not revive discussion of a ( Interruptions) matter which has been discussed in the same session;· MR. SPEAKER: You can bear with him for two more minutes. Again I read it. It says that a motion shall not be raised on a question substantially ( Interruptions) identical with one on which the House has given a deCision in the same session. Of MR. SPEAKER: Kumaramangalmaji: Let course, this is not applicable. us hear what points he has to make. Not like this. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA RAO VADDE(Vijayawada): We want only answer SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Mr. Speaker, and not the discussion.(/nterruptions) . Sir, I think, of the points that have been made, certainly two are very valid points. MR. SPEAKER: One otthe rules requires Indeed the han. Minister lor parliamentary that we have other subjects also which have Affairs pointed out and you were good enough 10 be discussed. to observe from the Chair that there has been discussion on this session, on the issue SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Absolutely, of Bofors and the hon. the Minister tor Sir. You are entirely right and you are very parliamentary affairs also said the same correct. Indeed, the Chair is always things and said something like that we have correct. ( Interruptions) had discussions eight times. But that really begs the question. Perforce, we have had to MR. SPEAKER: I would say, the Chair have a discussion eight times on the same is supposed to be correct. subject because if the Treasury Benchas were to finally settle the matter and provide SHRI JASWAtfT SINGH; No, Sir. The all the answers, then would not be any need Chair is always correct. Whatever the Chair for a discussion even the second time. That will rule, it is entirely acceptable to us. I am is the point. We are not having a discussion merely making a submission during Zero just now. We are making a submission to Hour. I am not moving a motion; I am not you. We are not holding a discussion just asking for a discussion, I am making a now and the submission that we are making submission. to you all is precisely on two points. On the discussion that was held here. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: That is exactly the point I made. When you give a regular notice, MR. SPEAKER: Jaswant Singhji,lthank when you give a notice lor a resolution, you you very much that you are putting it in a are not allowed to do It. But in Zero Hour you different tone, in a different fashion. I would are allowed to do It. 309 Re. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAKA) RB. Bofors Issue 310 SHRIJASWANT SINGH: I am making a KUMARAMANGALAM) : Sir. It is not ｾｵ｢ｭｩｳｳｪｯｮ＠ to the Chair. That is why, it is agreeable. Let us see whether they can give called the Zero Hour. I am m.Jking a a nOllCti and then only we will st::t:: according submission to the Chair wilh the permission to the fiJles. Sir. it is not going to oe allowed. of the Chair. (Interruptions) We cannot allow [his to go on record. All the time, we are han-splitting this MR. SPEAKER: Do not take me left and issue. We are creating a hislory. A lie told a right. million times would not make a truth out 01 it. There is no rationale. Even GOcbles would SHRI JASWANT SINGH: You have have been shy 01 it. I amextremely sorry, Mr. permitted me. ｓｰｾ｡ｫ･ｲＬ＠ that we cannot agree 10 this. (Interruptions) We are determined not to MR. SPEAKER: Ijust wanted you to say allow this. There isarule, there is Parliament something but not this way. and II nas got a method. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This House has not shut out tt,e diSCUSSion. SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am only making a submission. And the submission ( Interruptions) that I am making is that when the discussion took place on Bofors the han. the prime [ Translation] Minister was good enough to reply to some very direct queries that were raised. For MR. SPEAKER: Were you not given an example, i raised this query.(lnterruptions) opportunity to discuss and criticise this matter? it is not so. So much time has been SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR given yet you got no solution. How can it be (Mayiladuturai): Sir, he askedfortwo minutes allowed to have discussion on this issue and two minutes are over. (Interruptions) repeatedly? The question is about environment policy. (Interruptions) You want SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Sir. I will take to discuss Dunkel's proposal and you want to for instance( Interruptions) keep aside the other issue and you want to discuss the same matter again and again. Had time been not allotted 10J discussion, SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR: Sir, you could have complained. But even after people who cannot be enable about the discussing it lor five or six hours, there is no amount of time they take, how can we take scope lor any complaints. it as honourable what they have to say in this Housa?(lnterruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRIJASWANTSINGH:Thatwasvery SHRI JASWANT SINGH: An assurance simple. I was giving an illustration. For was- given in the House that the hon. Prime example, we have made a request and I Minister wiJl reply to the questions. If the remember very distinctly, asking the hon. assurance was given in the House. questions the Prime. Minister: did you or did you not cannot be answered thorough these papers. meet the director· General of C.B.L, on the My submission is that answer should be 23rd and the Prime Minister said given on the floor 01 the House. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS MR. SPEAKER: Please excuse me, I AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE am rising again and again. but I shall not rise MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND later on. Though there is no convention in the COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRIRANGARAJAN House to give reply to questions after a 311 Re. Bofors Issue MAY7,1992 Re. Bofors Issue 312 statement is made, yet I allowed to do that. [Translation] When it was raised during the Zero Hourthat too was allowed and it was allowed to do SHRI JASWANT SINGH; I make a under Rule 197 also. When you gave letter slr1l>le suomlsslon, I want to speak only two out side the House that too was replied. things. Whatever has been statbd in the Would you like to continue the debate even House, whatever assurance has ｢ｾ･ｮ＠ given after that. in the House, whatever questions have been ( Interruptions) raised in the House... SHRi GEORGE FERNNDES: Answer SHRI RANGARAJAN KUAMARA· has not been gillen at all. (Interruptions) MANGALAM: Complete assurance was given, complete answer was given, yet the [English] hon. Memoer could not satisfy himself. This Is only a pOlilical drama.(lnterruptions) SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- MANGALAM: We are not going to agree on SHRI JASWANT SINGH: The way the this issue. (/nterwprlons) Ttl'" yare using this hon. Minister and the congressmen are parliamentary system to disintorm, to lell the standing and waving their hands is not untruth and to adopt the Gabble's correct.(/nterruptions) Look at their faces, theory.( Interruptions) how are they looking? (Interruptions) What is it all like. (Interruptions) [ Translation] [English] SHRI GEORGE FERNNDES: If it could not be answered for three years. What should SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- I do? MANGALAM: This is not correct. This is not agreeable. MR. SPEAKER: Reply has been given to you. ( Interruptions) SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: I have SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA RAO not received that reply. Such statements VADDE (Vijayawada): Mr. Speaker, Sir, mislead the House. it was a simple question, thorugh you, I draw the attention of thIS but it was not replied. Where should I go? Government to a very important and a sad ( Interruptions) state of affairs of non-payment of sugar- cane prices. ( Interruptions) [English] [ Translation] SHRI RANGARJAN KUMARA- MANGALAM: There is a similarity between SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera): Shri Femandes and Goebbles. This is not I have given notice. The hon. Prime Minister agreeable. They are using the par1iamentary cannot protect himself. (Interruptions) Please system to spread a systematic dis information caD him in the Hosue. There should be a and to tell the untruth. What are they doing discussion on Bofors.(lnterruptions) Shri ? Even Gobbles would be ashamed. They ａｾｵｮ＠ Singh, call the hon. Prime Minister. are telling untruth a million times, to make the Where Is he? This will not do. We want to untruth, a truth. know as to who give the letter and at whose behest? (Interruptions) Bofors is not an ( Interruptions) ordinary issue. (Interruptions) It is surprising to see as to where from SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR: He has they raise the issue. wasted the time ofthe House .. ( Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: We want 313 Re. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAKA) Re. Bofors Issue 314 ... to know the truth. Wewanttoknowastowho MR. DEj=»UTY SPEAKER: Well, they Is the real culprit. (Interruptions) have the freedom to feel agitated .But let us make some progress with regard to our [English) business first. Let us take up papers laid on the Table. MR. SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 3.45 p.rn. ( Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you do not 13.45 hrs cooperate, how can we function? Under Rule 377, hon. Members want to raise many The Lok Sabha then adjourned lor Lunch in1X>rtant issues. They must be given a till forty-five minutes past Fourteen of th8 chance. Clock. SHAI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Sir, the Prime Minister should clarify the position. 14.48 hrs This Is a matter of shame for our country.( Inteffuptions) The Lok Sabha reassembled after LIJCh at forty eight minutes past Forteen of the SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA clock WASNIK(Buldhana): When the hon. Deputy Speaker Is p1i his legs, the Member should [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chait1 not get up like that.(Interruptions) { Translation] [ Translation] RE. BOFORS ISSUE-CONTD SHRI RAM VIlAS PASWAN: We are requesting you with all respects that the Hon. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera>: Prime Minister had made an assurance in Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when you were not the House and we would like to request Shri in the Chair, I had raised the ｂｯｦｯｾ＠ ..fssue Ghulam Nabl Azad to call the hon. Prime here and I had requested that the hen. Prime Minister and ask him to give clarification on Minister should be called.(lnterruptions) In Bofors issue.( Interruptions) this connection, he has written a letter to Mr. Femandes, but there Is nothing of this sort in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE that lener. The matter concerns the entire MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTAAY AFFAIRS nation as well as the House, so the AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government should made a statement in the MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND House. The clarification should be given In COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRIRANGARAJAN the House and the Govemment should Inform KUMAAAMANGALAM): Ithink the Zero Hour the House about it because till now the is over. Hthere is any motion let them bring Goverment has not given its it. H you do not want the House to go on. it Is reply. ( Interruptions) a different matter.(/nterruptions) (English) (TranslMion] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I know you SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South are all agitated. Delhi): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, efforts are being made to hide facts from the House. SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL This Is very simple. Why does the (Chandlgarh): Agitated for what? For no Government wnat to hide facts. Only two reason, they are agitated. questions arise here. Firstly, who is that 315 Re. Bofors /s,;ue MAY 7,1992 Re. Bofors Issue 316 anonymous person ..... ho handed over the SHRI SRIKANTAJENA: LtJlltle Prime letter. His name srluuld be o,;,closed . Minister come to the ｈｯｵｳ･ＮＨＯｉｉｉｴｾｲｲｵｰｴｩｯｮｳＩ＠ Secondly, what action rldS been ｬ｡ｾＢｮ＠ by the han. Prime Minister frOlI) 24th April ro 2nd Si1HI RABI RAY (KENDRAPADA): I May. The han. Minist"r nad toio {t1<.l1 he want to make some would make a statemem rltJre withul J week. suggestion (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: MI H<.lbi Ray (English] wants to make some suggestion [l get out of the deadlock. SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- MANGALAM: I am on a POllll of order. Is the ( Interruptions) Zero Hour over or not?(lnr"':rruptions) [ Translatlun] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We can make a little progress. SHRI RABI RAY (KENDRAPADA): Deputy Spe<.lker. Sir, I would like to help you ( Interruptions) in running the Hou;;e smoothly. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: On which subject there hould be discussion? SHRI MADAN lAL KHURANA: Mr. What do you want to discuss?( Interruptions) Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Government wants to hide the facts. Since the Han. Prime SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- Ministertcld that he would give a reply to the MANGALAM: Do you want to convert this letter and ciarify the entire possition before House into Parliament on Bofors? the House, why his reply is not coming? The ( Interruptions) hon. Prime Ministershouldclartifythe position here. (Interruptions) SHRI RABI RAY: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you have been observing the mood of [English] the House, I would like to submit only this much that on the day Prime Minister had MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us finish (Interruptions) The issue relating to letter papers to be laid on the Table of the House. was referred ... (Interruptions) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I may tell you that to continue ( Interruptions) with this type of barracking is not good, I do not believe in barracking and if you indulge in SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cuttack): it. I want to say something with a view to help Before lunch, we were raising an issue and the Deputy Speaker and I am on my legs with the Treasury Benches including the Minister his permission. It is not be good on your of Parliamentary affairs were not allowing part. (Interruptions) the Opposition to make their view point.( Interruptions) We are prepared to listen {English) to the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs (Interruptions) They are trying to stall the I want to make some suggestions. You proceedings of the House.(lnterruptions) cannot barrack me like this. I am not yielding. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Cooperation [ Translation) from both sides is absolutely essential. I am not used to such things. I am on my (Interruptions) legs with the permission of Deputy Speaker. 317 Re. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17. 1914 (SAKA) Re. BofufS Issue 318 [English] stano" dOJourned till 3.45 P.M. I am nOt yielding. 14.57 ｮｬｾＮ＠ [ Translation] The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Forty- five minutes past Fifteen of the Clock. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Han. Member should not be disturbed.( Interruptions) 15.46 hrs. The Lok Sabha re-assembled at forty-six [English] minutes past Fifteen of the Clok SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chaitj (Dumdum): This is the difference. We want to listen to the Prime Minister. They do not RE. BOFORS ISSUE- Contd. want to listen to anybody. ( interruptions) [ Translation] SHRI RABI RAY: Mr. DeputySepeaker. [ Translation] Sir. I am requesting my ruling partyfriendsto do some introspection and tell whether the SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South smooth running of the House is not the Delhi): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. we want responsibility of all of us.(/nterrup!ions) Mr. Prime Minister to be present in the House. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am again submining You shouid call him to the House. He had that it is not a good sing. I respect Shri promised the people of the country that he Kumaramangalam very much but he was would not hide anyfac.1, He had also promised indulging in barracking for fifteen mintes by to make a statement. So there is no other rising again and again during Zero Hour. It is question. He should come to the House and not good for Parliamentary Affairs Ministerto clarify the postion. barrack opposition members( Interruptions) Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. I would liKe to thank SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL Shri Ghulam Nabi Azad for making a (Chandigarh): Which facts have been statement when Shri Shivraj Palii was in the hide?( Interruptions) chair that Shri George Fernandes would receive reply to his questton from the Prime SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: We Minister within a week. Now as per his should at least be informed about the person assurance reply has been received . who handed overthat letter. I am at a loss to yesterday. All this has created a new understand as to why so many persons have situation( Interruptions) stood up in the support 01 Congress? Why Prime Minister himseH is not coming to the [English] Ho:;se? SHRI KODIKKUNIL SURESH (Adoorj: {English] Why have you allowed them? MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us have SHRI RANGARAJAN KUMARA- some patience in the evening at least. Now MANGALAM: Shri Rabi Ray. I have lot of the leaders of all political pal1ies are Sitting - respect for you. But please do not violate the with the hon. Speaker and they trying to ruling of the Speaker.(Interruptions) solve the issue. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House ( Interruptions) 319 Re. B%rs Issue MAY 7,1992 Re. Bofors /ssw 320 [ Translation) SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cuttack): Please adjourn the House for half-an- SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Is Prime hour.(lntetruplions) Minister also present then? [ Translation) (English) ·SHRI MADAN LAl You MR. DEPUTY SPEAkER: My dear KHlJRANk please adjournm the House for halan hour. friends, we should obseres nOnn5. When the Chair is Speaking, Members should of seve (English) certain norms. The Members as and when, they want, spring up an speak. The leaders SPEAKER: I sure, of all political parties and the hon. Speaker UR DEPUTY am within fifteen in mutes, all our leaders, who are discussing as to how to get out of this are the Speaker, will arrive at a just and fair hurdle. They are trying to solve the issue. decision. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) ! Translation) SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: You . [Translation) please adjoum the House till then. SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF SHRI MADAN LAl KHURANA: Ur. FArMl (Dalbhanga): We must be informed Deputy Speaker. Sir. Our request Is only this as to what was going on inside. (Interruptions) mJCh thal prime Minister should come to the House and ｧｩｶ･ＭｾｴｩｯｮＮ＠ [English) (Englsh) SHRI NIRMAL KANT I CHATTERJEE (Dumdudm): Sir, Please adjourn the House UR DEPUTY SPEAKER: W. have to till the solution is found.(/nterruptions) jobs toCOf!1'let•. One is Papers to be laid on the Table of the House and the other Is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We have Mattera under Rule 3n. already lost enough time. Let us do some justice to the business before us. The leaders ( IntelTUplions) of all political parties are discussing this Issue. In the meanwhile,let us complete two SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: Since the items, one is Papers to be laid on the Table various leaders are with the Speaker In the and the other is Matters under Rule 377. Speaker's CharnbC, we can surely discuss They are trying to solve the Issue which is that matter also here.(lntelTUptjons) agitating in your mind. In the meeting which Is taking place in Speaker's Chamber, the UR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Leaders aN reasur benches are represented; all parties discussing It. If you also want to discUss It ﾷｾｮｲ｡ｩｳｯ＠ represented. Within fifteen minutes, here. It may not help. . they will arrive at just, fair and a reasonable decision. Therefore, kindly permit me to (lnt.rruptions) transact two items - one is Papers to be laid on the Table and the other is Matters under ( Translation) Rule 3n. ( Interruptions) SHRI DAU DAUAl JOSHI (Kota): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the entIIe country Is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Your c0- concerned about •. Is PrimeUinlsterpreMfll operation is required. In the meeting going on In the chamber of hon. Speaker between· Governme"!_ and 321 Re. Bofors Issue VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA) R9. Bofors ISSU9 322 Minister should be called In the House and I Translation] . further proceeding should be started only then. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: If the Prime Minister does not fulfil the assurance [English] given by him, his credibility would be dangled SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHA TIERJEE : [English) The prime Minister should be present here. He has to fulfil his commitment.( Interruptions) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: What is the reason? Why this cannot be placed on the SHRI SRlKANTA JENA: The prime Table of the House? (Interruptions) Minister has to come to the House to clarify the of Bofors issue. otherwise, it will be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Whatever difficult for us to cooperate.(/nterruptions) relevant points various hon. Members have raised In the morning, on those points the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The leaders hon. Opposition parties' leaders are of the various political parties are with the discussing inside. Headed by the Speaker, Speaker. they are discussing this matter and they will come to the House with a proper solution. ( Int8ffuptions) Therefore, my request to you is to kindly cooperate for fifteen minutes so that we can [ Trans/ation1 corfl)lete two Items at least. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deorla): Mr. ( Interruptions) Deputy Speaker . SJr It is not on issue just between George Femandes and the prime SOME HON. MEMBERS: No adjoum Minister. the House till then .. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: let them ( Int8ffuptlons) sort it out. I do not know what is the problem here. The problem is that the prime Minister MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Rabi had made a commitment on the floor of this Ray ii, the former Speaker of this House, House Minister and made a commitment on wants to say something. the floor of this House that will give all the information (/nterrutpions) ( Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: hon. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: let us know Members. within fifteen minutes, they will be his views ••• arriving at a decision. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA: Why all the details cannotbe plzc:eQ on the Table of the SHRI MUKUL BALKRISHNA WASNIK: House. The question was raised on the floor Sir, we respect Mr. Rabl Ray but that Is an of the House? He has not anwered to all the entirely different .. (IntetnJptions). questions. What is the reason that the note which has been given by Shri Madhavsingh MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: In the best Solanki to the Extemal Affairs Minister of Interest of the entire House, I request all the Switzerland cannot be placed on the Table of Members to please carry on the proceedings the House?( InterruptioRS)Last week he also on smooth lines. Shri Rabi Ray Ji will give gave this assurance that the Prime Minister some suggestion how to solve this problem would give all the information to the House. He Is a senior Member. Let us hear him. But why the Prime Minister has not furnished this information so far? .. (lntenuptions) (Interruptions) 323 Papers Laid MAY 7. 1992 Papers LaId 324 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House the year 1990-91 togetherwlth stands adjourned to meet again at 4. 30 p.m. . Audit Report thereon. By that time we will have some solution: (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi 15.58 hrs. and English versions) by the Government on the wor4dng of The Lok Sabha then adjourned till t the Central Wakf Council for thirty minutes past Sixteen Clock. the year 1990-91. 16.31 hrs. (2) A statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for The Lok Sabha re-assembled at Thirty delay in laying the papers one minutes past sixteen of the Clock mentioned at (I) above. [Placed in Library. See No. l T -19451 [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] 92] [English] Memorandum ofUnderstanding for 191- 92 between metel serap Corporation Limited MR. SPEAKER: Well. in the Leaders' and Ministry of steel ete. meeting it is decided to meet again at 10. 00 AM tomorrow and proceed with the business THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY today. We have certain matters to be disposed AFFAIRS (SHR I GHULAM NABI AZAD): Sir. of. We will take up Papers to be laid and on behalf of Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev, I beg afterwards I will request hon. Minister Shri to lay on the Table- Arjun Singh to make a statement and then the legislative business can be taken up. (1) A copy of the Memorandum of Understanding forthe year 1991-92 between Now Papers to be laid on the Table. the Metal Scrap Trade Corporation Limited and the Ministry of Steel (Hindi and English versions ).[Placed in Library SeeNo LT -19461 16.32 hrs. 92] PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (2) A copy of the Memorandum of Understanding forthe year 1991-92 between Annual Report, Annual Accounts and the Ferro Scrap Nigam Limited and the Review on the working of cfmtral Wakf Ministry of Steel (Hindi and English versions). council for 1990-91 etc. [Placed in Library See No.lT-1947192] (English] Notification on Under Contral Reserve Police force Act 1949. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRIMATI K. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE KAMALA KUMARI ): Sir. on behalf of Shri MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Sitaram Kesri. I beg to lay on the Table- AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW. JUSTICE AND (1) (i) A copy of the annual Report COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRIRANGARAJAN (Hindi and English versions) of KUMARAMANGLAM): Sir, on behaH of Shri the Central Wakf Council for M.M. Jacob. I beg to lay on the table a copy the year 1990-91. of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police. Sub- Inspector (CompoundedlstoreslPharmacist) (ii) Acopy ofthe Annual Accounts Recruitment Rules, 1992 (Hindi and English (Hindi and English versions) 01 versions) published in NotificationNo. G.S.R. the Central Wakf Council for 104 in Gazette of India dated the 7th March 325 Papers Laid ｖｾｉｓａｋｬｩａ＠ 17. 1914 Ｈｓａｾａｉ＠ Leave of Allsence 326 liulI' rile sitting",)IIIIe House ..,. 1992 under sub-section (3) of section 18 of LIIIIIluO, M ..OI THE MINIST!R OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS 16.33 hrs. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW. JUSTICE AND LEAVE OF ABSENCE FROM THE COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RANGARAJAN SITTINGS OF THE HOUSE KUMARAMANGLAM): Sir, on behalf of Shri Mullepally Ramachandran, I beg to lay on [English] the Table- MR. SPEAKER: The committee on absence of members from the sittings of the (1) A copy each of the following papers House in their Second Report presented to (Hindi and English versions ) under the House on 6th May, 1992, have section 619 A of the Companies Act, recommended that leave of absence be 1956:- granted to the following Members for the period mentioned against each:- (a) (I) Review by the Government on the working of the Himachal 1. Shri Phoolchand Verma- 24.2-.92 to Pradesh Agro Industries 10.4.92 Corporation limited, Shimla, for the year 1990-91. 2. Shri G.L. Kanaujia - 11.3.92 to 30 4 .92 (ii) Annual Report of the Himachal Pradesh Agro Is it the pleasure of the House that leave Industries corporation Limited, as recommended by the Committee be Shimla, for the year 1990-91 granted? along with Audited Accounts and comments of the SEVERAl HON. MEMBERS: Yes. Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. (Placed in MR. SPEAKER The leave is Silranted. Library See No LT· 1949/12] The Members will be informed accordingly. MR. SPEAKER: Now next item - (b) (i) Reivew by the Government Statement of Committee on Petitions. on the working of the Tamil Nadu Agro Industries Shri P.G. Narayanan, not present. Corporation Limited. Madras, for the year 1989-90. Shri Ramesh Chand Tomar, not present (ii) Annual Report of the Tamil Now Statement by the hon. Minister Nadu Industries Corporation Shri Ar;iun Singh. ---- 327 Statement by Minister MAY7,1992 Matters under Rul6 377 328 ModifICations to the National Po/icy on Education, 1986 16.34 hrs 1986· Revised Policy Formulations· -laid on ' the Table of the House . I also lay on the Statement by Minister Modifications to Table of the House the report of the CABE the Natlona. Polley on Educatlon.1986 Committee on Policy. [English) THE MINISTER OF HUMAN MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHR' ARJUN SINGH): Sir, With your permission I 16.35 hrs would like to make a ｾ｡ｴ･ｭ･ｮｴ＠ about which I have an assurance In the House during the (I) Need to provide more funds to discussion on the Demands for Grants for the Government of Kerala forthe the Ministry of Human Resource development sports In the State. Development. . [English) The National Policy on Education (NPE) was adopted by Parliament on May 1986. A PROF. K.V. THOMES (Eranakulam): committee was set up un [ TransialionJ There are no sufficient direct Super Fast trains from Agra to the metropolitan cities Ike SHRI PRABHU DAVAl KATYHERIA Bombay, Madras, Calcutta, and to the (friozabad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the railway religions places like Allahabad, Varnasi and crossing on the National High Way in other important cities. At present the Toofan Shikohabad Legislative Assembly Express, which runs from Delhi to Allahabad constultencuy of Fiorozabad parliamentary via Agra is also not convenient. Due to this Constituency remains closed for several the tourists and other passengers traveling hours daily. Several trains pass over this on this route are facing great inconvenience. railway line. Oueto the closure or the gate the Same Is the case with the passenger train trfiifc Is jammed for several hours on this from Delhi to Bombay via Agra. way. Because of this much time ofthe people of this area and those who are shettling to So I demand from the Union 331 Matters under Rule 377 MAY 7, 1992 Committee on Petitions 332 Action taken Statements Government· that a new direct Super Fast administration of these gardens to WTDC. convenient Railway Train should ｢ｾ＠ introduced from Agra to Allahabad, Varnasi, I urge upon the Central Government to and Bombay and steps should be taken to take immediate action to hand over these stop all the passenger trains in Agra, which gardens to WTDC and thus save the gardens pass from here, so thatthe tourists and other and employees alike. passengers may get rid of the inconvenience. (vII) Need for Early Setting up of (v) Need to provide modern Cahew Board at OulJon • Kerata communication facilities in Sambhal Parliamentary SHRI KODIKKUNIL SURESH(Adoor): constituency, Uttar Pradesh. Sir. the Government of India has taken a decision to set up a Cashew Board in Kerala [ Translation) for the overall development and progress of cashew cultivation and thewelfare of cashew DR. S.P. YADAV (Sambhal): Sir, there labourers. This proposal has been pending is dearth of means of communication in the during the past several years. But the Sambhal parliamentary constituency. The proposed Cahsew Board has yet to start post and telegraph and telephone system is functioning. outdated and worn out in the entire area. A post office should be set up immediately in In Kerala cashew is one of the major each village with a population of 3 thousand, cultivation and production of cashew-nut is and each and every post office should be major industry there. There are a number of provided with a telephone. For example growers and thousands of laborers are vUlage Paraisa in Bissauli area, which has a engaged in this field. But their condition is population of 8 thousand and village Idinaura very bad. The cashew growers do not get in Gunnar area which has popoulation of 6 remunerative price for their raw cashew- thousand, should be provided with a post nuts. The laborers of cashew filed who work office immediately. in the cashew factories have not yet got permanent employment and other facilities. Besides, the renewal of the telephone The employees of cashew field get meagre system is also necessary. So the electronic salaries. The worriers and growers believe telephone system should be statged that if cashew board is established at the immediately with S.T.D facility Sariaisrin- earliest definitely it will solve their problems. liayatnagar municipality Bisauli. Bahjai I. therefore, request the Government of India muinicpality. Gunnaur Bavrala. Gawan. to take early steps for setting up the Cashew Rajpura. Islamnagar. Rudain Bahara- Board in Kerala at Quilon. Faizganij. Muriya. Sirais , Uhari. and Saidangali twon areas of this constituency. 16.45 hrs [English) COMMITTEE OF PETITIONS (vi) Need to land over certain ｾ･｡＠ gardens of West Bengal Action Taken Statements managed by TTCI to WTDC. [English] SHRI JITENDRA NATH DAS (Jalpaiguri): Sir, four tea gardens Loksan, SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN Pasfok. Putong and Vah-Tukvar in West (Gobichettipalayam): I beg to lay on the Bengal. managed by TICI are on the verge Table:- of closure. To save these gardens from closure West Bengal Government has already A copy 01 the following statements showing sent a proposal to hand over the final action taken by the Government on 333 Committee on Petitions VAISAKHA 17.1914 (SAKA) Constitution (Seventy- 334 Action taken Statements First Amendment) Bill (Amendment of ArtiGles 81, 82, 170 and 327 recommendations of the committee on LOK 'Sabha) and final replies in petitions. respect of Chapter IV of Eighth Report (Eighth Lok Sabha) on (1) Statement showing Action Taken representation regarding by Government on regularisation of services of recommendations contained in employees of national Seeds Chapter II of Second Report (Ninth Corporation. Lok Sabha) and final repfies in respect of Chapter II of Tenth Report (Eighth Lok Sabha) on the 16.46 hrs representation regarding grievances of Nurses of Delhi THE CONSTITUTION (SEVENTY-FIRST Hospitals. . AMENDMENT) BILL, (2) Statement showing Action Taken (Amendment of ArtIcles 81, 82, 170 by Government on and 327) recommendations contained in Chapter I of First Report (Ninth Lok As Passed by Rajya Sabha Sabha) and fianl replies in respect of Chapter IV of Second Report [English] (Eighth lok Sabha) on the representation regarding MR. SPEAKER: Now, we goto legislative introduction of old age pension business. Scheme. Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy. (3) Statement showing Action Taken by Government on THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE recommendations contained in AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI K. VUA YA Chapter III of Second Report Nith BHASKARA REDDY): I beg to move: lok Sabha) and final replies in respect of Chapter I of Eleventh "That the Bill further to amend the Report (Eighth Lok Sabha) on the Constitution of India viz., the Constitution petition regarding revocation of (Seventy-first Amendment) Bill, 1990,as Hindustan Tractor Limited passed by Rajua Sabha (Amendment of (AcquisiHon and Transfer of articles81,) 82. 170 and 327) be refereed to Undertakings) Act, 1978. a Select Committee consisting of 20 memberS namely:- (4) Statement showing Action Taken by Government on (1) Shri Raghunadan Lal Bhatia recommendation contained in Chaopter VI of First Report (Ninth (2)Shri Buta Singh lok Sabha ) and final replies in respect of Chapter VI of Seventh (3) Shri Chandubhai Deshmukh Report (Eighth lok Sabha) on representation regarding dleinking (4) Shri Jaswant Singh of the amount of national Talent Search Scholarshipfromthe income (5) Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam of parents. (6) Shri Ramkrishna Kusmaria (5) Statement showing Action Taken by Government on (7) Prof. (Shrimati) Savithiri Lakshmanan recommendations contained in Chapter V of Second Report (Ninth (6) Shrl Suraj Mandai 335 Constitution (Seventy-Fitst MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of AtticIes 81,12. 336 Amendment) Bill 170 and 327 [Sh. K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy). (8) Shri Suraj Mandai (9) Shrl Arvind Netarn (9) Shrl Arvlnd Netam (10) Shri Ram Vilas Paswan (10) Shri Ram Vilas Paswan (11) Shrl K. Pradhani (11) Shri K. Pradhani (12) Shri S.S.R. Rajendhra Kumar (12) Shri S.S.A. Rajendhra Kumar (13) Dr. Lal Bahadur Rawal (13) Dr. Lal Bahadur Rawal (14) Shrl Sudarsan, Ray Chaudhuri (14) Shrl Sudarsan, Ray chaudhurt (15) Shri M. Baga Reddy (15) Shri M. Baga Reddy (16) Shri Vishwa Nath Shastri (16) Shri Vishwa Nath Shastri (17) Shri Sukh Ram (17) Shri Sukh Ram (18) Shri Syed Shahabuddin (18) Shri S)'8d Shahabuddin (19) Shrirnati Chandra Prabha Urs; and (19) Shr1mati Chandra Prabha Urs; and (20) Shri Mukul Balkrishna Wasnik (20) Shri Mukul Bakrishan Wasnik with instructions to report by the last day with Instructions to report by the last Gay of the first week of the Monsoon Session, of the first week of the Monsoon Session, 1992.. 1992.- MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: [ Trans/ation) "That the Bin Further to amend the SHRI tAl K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): Constitution of India V"IZ. the Contitution Mr. Speaker, Sir, just now Bills have been put (Seventy-first Amendment)· Bm, 1990. as for consideration today. The hon. Minister of passed by Raajya Sabha (Amendment of law has proposed Just now to refer one of the articles 81, 82, 179 and 327) be referred to Bills to the Select Convnlttee of the House. a Select Committee consiptlng of 20 I rise to support both these bills. I am not too members, namely:- enmoursed by the proposal bough toward by the Government to ref.r It to the Select (1) Shri Raghunandan lal Bhatia CommIttee and at sensitive I do not either opose It. Rather I support the move. But I (2) Shri Buta Singh would certainly like to express my remorse on this occasion becau.. both the Bills are (3) Shri Chandubhai OeshmJkh connected with the election process of the country. As a Whole the attitude of the (4) Shri Jaswant Singh Govememnt regarding election process has been quite disappointing. I remermar the (5) Shrl P.R. Kumaramangalam Question Hour on the fnt altting of the Hou.. afterthe PresidentaAddl'8llof current (6) Shrl Ramkrishna Kushmalla Tenth lokSabha. We might have discussed nearly 900 questions during the Question (7) Prof. (ShrimatI) Savlthirilakshmanan Hour by now. The first question 'Starred 337 COINIIIutJon (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17. 1!a1" (SAKA)(Amendment 01 Artit:;/tM 338 FbI AmendmtInI) BII 81.82. 170 and 327 0uetI1on NO. ,· ...... lnthenelNofmy be ...r.rrwd to the Select CornmIttM. There senior colleague Shrl AlaI BIhart Vajpay.. 81'8 some doubts In the mind of some people and In my name. I was veryrnJCh pleased by and I have no objection if they get an the frank reply given to that question by the opportunity to remove their doubts In that Minister of law. Shrl Reddy and the State Select Committee. Though I will have a Minister of law. Shrl Kuamramangalam and colTplalnt that It will be a strange precedent. a ray of hope was seen that there would be I was going through the precedents. It never a different attitude of the Govemmenttowards happened after 1964 where the Rajya Sabha electoral reforms. has passed a BiU and the lok Sabha has referred It to a Select Committee. The More than ten months have elapsed Government should have made up its mind since then. I would just Ike to remind as to much before and the Motion that has been what happend to the assurances given by moved today could have been moved earlier the Govemment in reply to the first question. to refer the BiD to a Joint Select Committee. No assurance has been fulfilled. Acommittee But the Government could not mange its was constituted under the chairmanship of business properly. The Government should Shri Dlnesh Goswami which ｣ｯｾｬ･ｴ･､＠ its accept it. It is not desirable to ask the Raja work within three or four months and made Sabha after it has unanimously passed a Bill a number of suggestions regarding electoral that its decision is not justified and that we reforms, That committee had made several want to review the Bill and amendit. It is recommendations and the present Bill is the certainly our right to refer a Bill to a joint outcome of those I'8COmmendations which Select Committee. If it had to be done. there is being Il3lerred to a Joint Select Committee should have been some arrangement forthe today. But that is a minor suggestion. Other participation by the other House in the Select suggestions bear little value. oills are stUi Committee at least for the sake of pending In Rajya Sabha. Shrl Dinesh management by a majority party. It is not Goswami introduced the Bill in 1990. The good if we discuss this issue keeping away Government is not ready to move forward the other House. I have said that it has even and inch on this score. Today. this Bill happened three times earlier too. There is about the delimitation of Constituencies were minor Bills then. A Select Committee of "llld that too is imcomplete. It is incomelte in the House was constituted in 1954 and other I e sense that only an amendment is being Select Convnittee was constituted in 1964 in I,ade to the Constitution so that the which the other House could not participate. Ｍｾ｡ｲｬｩ｡ｭ･ｮｴ＠ may get the right to delimit the It Is one aspect. I would like to know about ｾ［ｯｲｬｳｴｩｴｵ･ｮ｣ｩ･ｳＮＱｮ＠ ＱＹＷｾ＠ an amendment was electoral reforms and submit that the me: je to the Coltitutlon. As a result of which remaining BUIs are pending in Rajya Sabha thl) number of parliamentary as weH as One of them Is the Constitution Seventieth assembly constituencies was established so Amendment Bill and the other is the that they could not be changed. H there are Representation of the People Amendment 543 Members this number can' be made 55 Bill. 1990. Out of these two Bill the first Bill of 545. On the other hand•• was decided is the Constitution Seventieth Amendment through that amendment that no change can Bill and that Bill is about making the Election be made In the existing parliamentary and Commission impartial and How the assembly constituencies. Through this Bill appointment of the Chief Election we are further stabilizing the number. Commissioner or Election commissioners Parliament is being given power again so could be made and what is the attitude of the that H may pass the same Delimitation Governmenttowards that. The second Is the Commission BlU today as it passed in 1952. Representation of the people Amendment 64 and 72. That BiU has not yet been Bill. 1990. which was Introduced by Shri introduced. Therefore. the Govemment has Dinesh Goswami and was referred to the given an Impre•• ion that Delimitation joint aelect Convnittee but due to dissolution COmmission Bill will be Introdueed during the of the lok ｾ｡＠ II was sent back to Rajya monsoon session and by that time It should Sabha. That Bill is introduced and Is pending. 339 Constitution (Seventy-First MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 81,82, 340 First Amendment) Bill 170 and 327 ISh. Lal K. Advanij recommendations on the basis of which the Bill was framed. I believe that If this Bill was Why did the Government not take any action put before all the Members properly there on that. If it was to be referred to the Select would have been no need of referring it to the Committee, that Bill should have been Select Committee. Since there are doubts, referred to it and that too immediately. But it we are working to remove them and as such seems that the Government is not thinking I am not opposing It. But the Government seriously about all these things. So far as the should show the prompterss and proceed current session is concerned, I remember further with authenticity regarding Electoral that a similar question was asked and the reforms, I myself and my party have been in Law Minister reapplied that the Government the favour of radical changes in the election will call a meeting of the laders of various procedure. OurCommiunistfrinds have also parties during this seassion and discuss the been in favour of it. First past the system. At entire gamut of electoral reforms and bring present the election procedure in India is not forward a comprehensive Bill in the House. to the mark and healthy therefore. we need Ido not see that comprehensive Bill anywhere to bring about proportional representation and there is no progress on the piece"1eal but ttlere was no consensus in the Dinesh Bills, which are pending. There was only one Goswami Committee. So, it was Bill which Rajya Sabha sent to us after recommended that an expert committee passing it and about which I hoped that the may look into it. But there is no progress on House will pass it today itself. But I am sorry the matters to which we agreed, though the to say that we are not in a pOSition to pass it Government has completed one year. I would and it so being referred to the Select certainly like to express my regret on this Committee. Though this Bill surely emerge matter. further modified form the Select Committee. I would like to say something about the The other Bill relates to giving right to dOubts the people are having in their mind. I vote to the M.L.A's Delhi and Pondicherry in think some Members have doubt that there the Presidential election. provision of rotation of the Scheduled castes _17.00 hrs. seats may do harm to some people. I would like to teli that a demand is being made in its Isupportthis legislation. Althe time when the backgroung that those constituencies should august House was discussing grant of be reserved for SC's where the population of statehood to Delhi and the passage of this scheduled castes has increased but that Bill was in progress, hon. Members from seat is general for years and on the other cross sections of the House had raised this hand a demand is being made that the point and the hon. Minister of Home Affairs Constituency should be deserved. But how had given an assurance that steps should be will it rotate It will be provided only in the taken in this direction. I welcome it. On this Deiimitation Commission Bill. This Bill has ocx:asion I would like to seek a clarification only an enabling provision. So the Dinesh from the Government that while replying to Goswami Committee which consisted,of the pOints in regard to grant of Assembly to former Chief Election Commissioner Shri Delhi. the hon. Minister should explain asto Shakdher, Law Minister Shri Dinesh what steps he is going to take to fullfil the Goshwami himself, my colleague in the promises he made in December that they House Shri Somnath Chaterjee. Shri Homji are not only passing the Delhi Statehood Bill Dorji of the Communist Party, Shri H.K. L. but also are going to hold the Assembly Bhagat of Congress Party. Shri Era she Zian elections in Delhi very soon so that the and L.P. Singh of Janta Dal and many senior citizens of Delhi could elect their persians, Shrimatoi Rama Devi, who was representatives to run the administration, secretary in the Ministry of·Law and Shri K. because for last four years it is running Ganeshan former secretary of the Election without people's representatives. Today the Commission. All of them considered each Members of Parliament are doing the duty of and every aspect and made Municipal Councilors. They have to take 341 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17. 1914 (SAKA) Statt. by Minister 342 First Amendment) Bill Derailment 01 7022 Dakshin (Amendment 01 Articles 81. 82. 170 and 327 Express on 6.5.1992 care of all local problems. As such the [Translation] Government should clarify as to what is the factual position in regardto holding Assembly SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): Mr. elections in Delhi. Speaker, Sir, before the hon. Minister makes Mr. Speaker, Sir. that is why, within 8 this statement, I would like to submit that I months ...... have been trying to say something for quite some time, but do not get an opportunity. It [English] is about the railway level crossing near Shaharanpur. Though there is a gate, the Within eight months, we shall see to it gateman is absent from duty for last five that there is an elected assembly in Delhi. days. This resulted in a bus colliding with a train while crossing the level crossing. 15 [ Translation) people died on the spot and 50 sustained injuries. Please let us know whether the hon. In this connection I would like to seek a Mini&ter knows about the incident or not. clarification from the Government as to how This is a major mishap. The people met the much progress has been made in delimitation railway authorities and made complaints that work of the constituencies. As long as an the gateman was not attending his duty for Assembly is constituted, the question of last five days. Members of Delhi Legislative Assembly joining the electoral College for the election SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR of next President does not arise at all. I feel (Bareilly): Mr. Speaker, Sir, my submission that the promptness with which this Bill was is that the people who die in rail mishaps brought forward has never been thown in should get compensation. any other case earlier. It was done hurriedly with a view to providing an opportunity to the Members of Pondichery Legislative Assembly 17.03 hrs. join the electoral College for the election of the next President of India. I have no objection STATEMENT BY MINISTER to it But promptness is not shown in deserving cases. In cases where no objection is raised. Oerlalment of 7022 Oaksten Express on they take quick action. There are political Balharshh Kazipet Broad Guage reasons for ihis.Though I have no objection Section of South Central Railway on to It, yet I would like to seek certain 6.5.1992 clarifications in this regard. [English] Wrth these words I once again support the Bill which seeks to include the Members THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of De Ih i and Pondichery Legislative MINiSTRY OF RAiLWAYS (SHRI Assemblies in the electoral college for the MALLIKARJUN): A!though it is not the election of the President. I also support the established practice for the Ministry to make Resolution which seeks to take up delimitation a statement in Parliament regarding train of constituencies without increasing the accidents where there have been no fatalities, nurriberof seats in State Assemblies and the in deferece to the wishes of some of the Parliament members, I wish to apprise the House about the derailment of 7022 Dakshin Express on [English] South Central Railway on 6.5.1992. MR. SPEAKER: As 5 o· clock is ｳ･ｴｴｾ､＠ At about 3.40 hours on 6.5.1992 while for the Minister of Railways to make a 7022 Nizamuddin-Hyderabad Dakshin statement, I call upon Shri Mallikarjun to Express with a load of 19 coaches wason run make a statement. between Uppal and Hasanparti Road stations on the Balharshah·Kazipet Broad Gauge ( Interruptions) Double line section on lhe Secunderabad 343 Statt. by Minister· MAV 7. 1992 Constitution (Seventy-First 344 Derailment of 7022 Dakshin Amendment) 8ill (Amendment Express on 6.5.1992 of Articles 81, 82, 170 and 327 ISh. Malikarjun) 17.05 hrs. Division of South Central Railway, 15coaches THE CONSTITUTION (SEVENTY-FIRST marshalled 4th to 18th from train engine AMENDMENT) derailed at km.348120, blocking the Down Main line only. As a consequence of the [Amendment of ArtIcles 81,82, 170 and derailment, 11 passengers sustained minor 327] injuries. As passed by RaJy. Sabha CONTD. Immediately on receipt of information [ Translation) about the accident, the medical relief van from Kazipet alongwith a team of doctors SHRI MOHAN SINGH (08oria): Mr. and officers rushed to the site and arrived Speaker, Sir, when I came to lok Sabha for there at 5.00 hours. The Additional General the first time as a member I had moveo a Manager, the Divisional Railway Manager Private Member's Constitutional Amendment and other Senior Officers also rushed to the Bill seeking amendment to Articles 81 ,82,1 70 and 327 of the Constitution. A great injustice site of the accident. The passengers who was done during emergency when had sustained injuries were treated by the Constitutional amendments were done In doctors at the site and then proceeded on bulk. Amendment to all the above Articles their onward journey. were done through 44th Constitutional Amendment. There was also an amendment The passengers of the ill-fated train that delimitation of constituencies being done were cleared by running out a duplicate train after every census should be frozen upto which left the site at 6.55 hours on 6.5.1992. 2001 A.D. and do delimiation work there after. I have complaint against Shri Advani also that when their Government was in power they nullified most of the above The accident is being inquired into by a amendments. But this point was not touched Comminee of Senior Railway Officers. at that time. This Constitutional Amendment Although the cause of the accident will be Bill was brought forward in the Rajay Sabha established only alter the detailed inquiry, I in 1990 and passed by them unanimously. would like to mention the fact that according But when It came to lok Sabha it Is being to officials who visited the Site, there is referred to a select committee. Unlike them, evidence which points to the possibility of the I am not going to raise any serious objection derailment having occurred due to sabotage. to it but I want to make a suggestion. The lok Sabha and the Rajya Sabha enjoy equal The State Police has also not ruled out this powers in the mattes of Constitutional possibility. A broken rail piece which was Amendemnt. Today the Congress Party is found displaced at the accident site has been not a position get an amendment passed in sentforchemical examination to the forensic the RajY3 Sabha on its own strength. As such laboratory in Secunderabad to verify if there when this Constitutional Amendment Bill has are any traces of explosive material on it. the been passed by the Rajya Sabha Report is awaited. unanimously, it is our responsibility to pass it in the same form in the lok Sabha also. I My colleague Shri Jaffer Shariefji. all cannot predict as to what will be the reaction 01 the Rajya Sabha now, nor would I like to railway workers and I express our sincere comment on that, but I want to suggest that sympathies to the passengers who were a pointy has been left untouched with regard injured in this accident. to delimitation of constituencies. Earlier the 345 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA)(Amendrnent of Articles 346 ... First Amendment) Bill 81,82,170and327 number of the seats in Lok Sabha and State Articles 81,82,170 and 327 ofthe Constitution Leglslatives Assemblies increased with the had been brought forward in the House. increase in population. The present Bill is Under the Rules, I had given two notices of incomplete, because a Bill to rotate seats amendment. You must clarify them. I had was brought forward to empower the august made a request that with the inclusion of neo House to exercise this power, I had myself Buddhists as Scheduled Castes, the once met the hon. Prime Minister in January. population of Scheduled Castes and He expressed his agony that the Constituency Scheduled Tribes has increased. The in which he was, borne is a reserved Scheduled Castes population has gone upto constituency since 1952. He cannot contest 17 per cent and the Scheduled Tribes the elections from. his home constituency. population has Increased from 71/2 per cent The question is that Schedule Castes and to 81/2 per cent. In this way their total Scheduled Tribes Constituencies which are percentage has gone up more than 25 reserved for last many years should be percent. Since their population has increased, retated. Secondly, we are passing through they must be given representation in Lok the Ambedkar Centenary Year, this year. Sabha in the same proportion as per the Besides the ratio of Scheduled Castes and Constitutional provisions. The House should Scheduled Tribes has increased by three to consider to increase their number. Secondly, four percent in these 20 years after 1971. As under Article 327 of the Constitution, there such the number of seats should be refixed are States having by-cameral legislature. in proportion to rise in their population. When There is no provision of reservation for the number of Schedule Castes and Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in Scheduled Tribes increase, they must get Raja Sabha and State Legislative Councils. the benefits of increase. The question of Of course, reservation provision exists in rotation of seats is being referred to a Select Lok Sabha and State Assemblies. With the Committee. At the same time the committee result, they get representation in Lok Sabha should also be asked to take up delimitation and not in Rajya Sabha. If we look at the of seats and increase their number in the strength of Rajya Sabha we will find that same proportion the population increases. there ｡ｲｾ＠ not more than 10 members With that, the incomplete work will be belonging to Scheduled Castes or Schedu led completed. If we make further delay on it and Tribes in a House of 250 Members. It is an keep it pending, our objectives can not be injustice to the basic spirit of the Constitution. fullfilled. That is why, I do not oppose it but I That is why I had moved an amendment to want that delimitation of Constituencies the Constitution. Members belonging to both ｳｾｯｵｬ､＠ be done on the basis of population. the sides have expressed their concern over After 1971, population of many Parliamentary it and they want the rights of people belonging and Assembly segments has gone up to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes phenomenally. In Delhi the number of voters should be protected at all levels. As such, in a Parliamentary Constituency has gone there should be a provision of reservation in upto 16-17 lakhs and there are many Lok the Rajya Sabha as well as in State Legislative Sabha seats where the number of voters is Councils. I understand that when it is done, 40 to 60 thousand only. The style of the Bill will be adopted with both the functioning of Members from both these amendment. types of constituencies is affectedduetothls difference. 11 this committee does nottake an I am not aware whether provisions in integrated stand and delimitation is not done this Bill have been made on the basis of 1981 accordingly, our objectives can notbefullilled. cens!Js. But the last census was done in 1991. Article 81 (3) of the Constitution With these words I conclude. stipulates that SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (Rosera): [English] Mr. Speaker, Sir, as has been said by my hon. friends, a Bill seeking Amendment 10 'Population althe last preceding census'. 347 Constitution (Seventy-First rAAY 7. 1992 (Amendment of Articles 81.82. 348 . Amendment) Bill 170 and 327 ISh. Ram Vilas Paswan] the number of seats of general candidates alongwith the seats of Scheduled Castes [ Translation] and Scheduled Tribes. The number of seats Should be increased proportionate to the Last time. it was done in 1961. There incrc3ase in population. was some reason due to which the above amendment was made. It would be better if the amendments given by me in this recard are incorporated [English] in the Bill. SHRI K. VIJAYA BHASKARA REDDY: Vlith these words, I share the views of It is already amended in Rajya Sabha as other hon. Members. 1991. [English] [ Translation] SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA RAO SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: So far as VADD::: (Vijayawada): Mr. Speaker. Sir. we reservation is concerned. there was doubl::l do not have any objection and we agree with member constituency till 1961. But the objectives with which this Amendment unfortunately. it was abolished from 1961. Its Bill has been brought forward. But we feel it main reason was that once an hon. Member will disappoint us in the sense that the hon. lost the elections to Lok Sabha. In his place. Minister 01'1 earlier occasions has assured a candidate belonging to Scheduled Castes this house that the Government is very much was elected due to double 'member interestsod to bring forward a comprehensive constituency system. In the doub'e IT'3,nber elector:,1 reforms BiL a:50. But now and then, constituency system one seat remains on piecemeal baSIS. ths Government is reserved. If the reserved cand'date nets procaec'ing - COing aheaj wit, th::l Punjab more votes It an the general candidate. he elections, ｴｨｾｹ＠ havo brought forward an will be declared elected against the general ;)mendment. Now only in respect of seat automatically and the other reserved delimitc:>tion. the preser.! amendment has seat remains reserved. When that particular been brought forward. It i;; a long overdue member lost the elections the law ',"as one. I, ｩｾ＠ a common kn')wledge that the amended through an f.ct and the two member voter:. rl the reserved constituenCies, which constituency system was abolished since have been reserved for more than two 1961. Then the system of reserved decades. sometimes even for three decades constituency came into force. The Scheduled -assemblysegments as well as parliamentary Castes and Scheduled Tribes Forum consists segments - are very much disappointed in of members from various political parties viz those constituencies because of reservation. the Congress Party. the B.J.P .• the C.P.I.. Apart from the SCheduled castes and the the C.P.M. and janata Dal. tfJe forum he!d a schedu:- j tribes. thJirfcJlincs are let down. meeting today. It unanimously held thevi:!w n,) s?· e o:-,:->ortunity i.; not given to other that alongwith LC'k Sabha tho p.ovision of ｣ｯｮｾｴｩｴＧＮ＠ ｾｮ｣Ｚ･ｳＮ＠ reservation should be made a'/aiiablo in Rajya Sabha also. Yeolerda", when we ｾﾷＮＧ･ｲ･＠ discussing - in your (Jom I"hen you callqd all the leaders Secondly. the question of inlroduci'lg 01 the parti')s - :/e thought that the the two membersys'emwhich was in ｾｲ｡｣ｴｩ｣･＠ Gov('rr -nent Ｇｾ＠ very keen to ｰ｡ｾｳ＠ this today earlier, should be reconSidered. Thirdly. ｩｾ＠ is and it III come forw:.rl' with the actual so nice of you that tr.e figures of 1991 ｣･ｮｾＧｊｓ＠ ､･ＡｩｾＺｴＬﾷ＠ on committee very soon so that it have been taken into consideration. Fourthly. will take not less than a year to complete that the number 01 seats should be increased in process and keep ready the constituencies proportion to increase in their population. It in case of assembly elections going to be would be better if the Government increases held in different States. 349 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKH.\ 17,1914 (SAK'I)(Amendmmt of Articles 350 First Amendment) Bill 81,82, 170 and 327 I urge upon the Government to come too. That is why. we have been seeing that forward with not only this select committee's the time is long over due when a recommendations in regard to this Bill but comprehensive legislation is brought forthe also with other electoral reforms in the purpose of bringing about necessary changes monsoon session so that the hard work that in the ejection law. has been rendered by late Shri Dinesh Goswami and various other learned people, Many committees have been set up for who have participated in those deliberations this purpose from 1971 onwards. I had the and have given constructive suggestions, is privilege to be in the committee set up by put into the statute. It will go a long way in the your predecessor for recommending electoral process of this country in fulfilling amendments to election law. But many the aspirations of the people belonging to unanimous recommendations have not been both scheduled castes, scheduled tribes and accepted in the sense that they have not other sections also. been implemented and they have not been conver.ed into law. SHRI SOfANATH CHATTERJEE ｾｯ｢ｯ､ｹ＠ can deny 1:'3,1 there are many (Bolpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, while taking pM infirmities in our electoral process and in the discussion on this Bill, I cannot avo;d eiector21law. Still, various methods are being remembering Shri Dinesh Goswami - whom adopted to' vitiate the electoral system itself. we have lost in tragic circumstances - forthe One has to be extremely careful in this very active and meaningful role that he had matter to ensure that the system is not played during the short period he was a vitiated still further. Therefore, this is what I Minister, in trying to bring about reforms in request the Government. Please do not our election laws. A committee was delay this any further. I am sure the han. constituted, as Mr. ADVANI has said, with Minister Shri Reddy wants to do it without the representatives of all the political parties any aelay. If necessary, he may probably and also experts in election law. In 1990, the have a meeting of ali party representatives Bill was introduced in Rajya Sabha and it has on one 01 these days. But this delimitation been passed. matter is at least one point an which we are ｣ｲｯｳｳｩｮｾ＠ the hurdles. I hope we have crossed One would have thought there was the burc"'e. The next SeSSion, we will pass it nothing to cp!)ose in this Bill. But it seeIT'S alona \"ith tre delimitation bill, which Sh0Uld that as the effective Bill, namely, the follow immed ately. constitution of the delimitation ｣ｯｭｭｩｳｳｩｾｮＬ＠ cannot be passed this time in this session ...... The actual work on delimitation has !o 1"3it ｾ［ＨＬ＠ there are very I nany pending issues. until that Bill is passed. It cannot tJ dO!1e The r"'::ommendation£ of the Dinesh even in this Session. Therefore, w') do :.01 G"S\':::- 'l1i CC'l1mitto arJ there. Tho other mind having a closer look at this ;natter, recom:-:lendations are also there. The because the question of readjustment of suggestions of the Election Commission have seats on the basis of the 1981 Census is also come. Therefore, please do nto delay there and there is also the question of rotation thi!: matter. As it is, theteare many difficulties, of seats so far as the Scheduled Castes' infirmities and deficiencies in our electoral seats are concerned. Since we are Going to law as well s electoral system. Therefore, we participate in the Select Committee, I have must exhibit our great concern. Not only nothing more to say in this respect. mere cC1cern, we must prove our intention to recti!: the mistakes ｾｾ､＠ to bring about the What I want to say here is that I'.'e hc:.\ e best por siblo electoral system in this country. been trying to bring about ｲ･Ａｯｲｭｾ＠ in the I do r.ot "'ish t('take mll,;h tim:>. I req'Jestthat electoral law in a very piecemeal manner C'.nd the Go':ernm:mt sho!:ld make the position on many occ3sions in the ad hoc manner clear. 351 Constitution (Seventy-First MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 81,82, 352 Amendment) BiH 170 and 327 [ Trans/ation] and Scheduled. Tribes population. The' population of Scheduled Castes and SHRI RATllAL VARMA (Dhanduka): Scheduled Tribes should be taken Into Mr. Speaker, Sir, the question of electoral consideration. The r&COlTYTlendatlons of the '",forms has time and again be.en raised in Ccmmitteo specifically say this. Before 8 Lok Sabha. A discussion to this offect is passing ｴｨｾｳ＠ Bill, we should thoroughly 50 being held today. It has been said that examine tn3 Census Report. There are lis time new seats may be earmarked on Con!tltuendes where only 40,000 voters are .!"Ie basis of 1991 census. It has been noticed thero and there are some constituencies .\at people are disinterested to caste their whero there more than a million voters. In lIotes in reserved constituencies during the this " .. ｡ｾＬ＠ it rroy nto be justifiable if we ｾｳ＠ elections. Underthe olectoral reforms voting this Bi:,·suCldenly. Though the Ralya Sabha should be made compulsory. As farasRajya had passed this Bill, yet this should be Sabha is concerned, I am of the view that If properly scrutinized. The Bill should also provision of reservation are extended to include constituencies which should be Rajyua Sabha like Lok Sabha the people reserved forSchedu led Casts and Scheduled belonging to Scheduled Castes and . Tribes. Otherwise, if we pass this Bill, the Scheduled Tribes could get proper executive will execute it and our own representation. They can express their views grievances could not get reflected. for the general public as well as for themselves. It Is also seen that people The,l is why, , earnestly request the belonging to Scheduled Castes and House'lo send this Bill to the Select Scheduled Tribes face a lot of difficulties to Committee. contest olections. These cancidatos experience difficulty In meeting election expenses. Therefore,' would like to request ｓｈｾｉ＠ P.C. THOMAS (Muvanupuzha): the Governm,1nt to provide special facilities Sir, I support the move to send the Bm to the to candidates contesting against roserved Seled Committee. It is good that the matter seats. \'ViII be discussed in detail. There is full ijnanimity regarding the fact that the With these words, , conclude. ｓ｣ｨ･､ｵｾ＠ Castes and Scheduled Tribes should be given proper representation and In [English] a proper manner. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA With regard to Electoral Reforms, I (Balasore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Committee AJmembar that on January 9, 1989, there headed by the then Law Minister, 1318 Shri was an ::JI-Party .Woeeting where so many Dinesh Goswami had made some suggesfoAS had come and on the basis of recommendations. The Committee those suggestions, a Committee was formed recommended delimitation of constituencies and so many suggestions came there, Shri and reservation for Scheduled Castes and Dinesh Goswami was also there. Aner that, Scheduled Tribes on the basis of. their the ma!'.er was discussod in detail. Then population in these constituencies. 50m3 B!U In rogard to ｾｨｯ＠ Reprosentation of the ｐ･ｾ＠ also'came hero in tho Lo;< Sabha. Before passing this Bill, It should go to The BIU has not only camo once but a number the Select Committee first. Because, If you of tirTl9t. But ｾｴｬｬｬ＠ we are far behind and we pass this Bill, then, it will become a law and hCJve not been able to briO{] out proper it will be coming Into. force. Before paSsing reformS as such. this Bill, all the Members of the House should be equipped with sufficient knowledge 01 So, I would suggest that this has to be Census Repott. Sir, 'have gone through the done at the earliest and 'would Census Report ot 1991 and' have found that wholeheartedly support the move to send 11 there is no such mention of Scheduled Cat! » to t.he ｾＧＩｉ･｣ｴ＠ Commltto3. 353 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA){Amendment o( AttJcIes 354 First Amendment) BiN 81, 82, 170 and 327 ｾＮ＠ THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE ·Select Committee consisting of all ANDCOMPANV AFFAIRS (SHRIK VIJAVA experlencedparliamentarians;there it will be BHASKARAREDDV):Slr, I am happy that all usefulto make It a perfect Bill which we can the hon. Members who spoke on this Bill for pass In the next session. Along with that also, referring it to the Select Committee have all we com3 forward with the Delimitation of the supported It unanimously, viz. the draft BiU Constituencies Bill; and perhaps after the as passed by the Rajay Sabha Bl't, In the next session, this Bill will be passed and also process, a nurroer of suggestions have tho ｄ･ｾｬｭｩｴ｡ｴｩｯｮ＠ Commission will be come and the Leader of the OP!lOsition ｣ｯｮｳｴｬｴｬｴＮｾＮ＠ 1h'l electi:n process will also started the discussion and he has mentioned tako plnce; after that the Bill will be passed. some things. I know that the first question which I answered, as the Minister of Law, We had gone through the election only was put by Shrl Advanl and Shrl Vajpayee eight to nine months back. This time, let as and In that I have stated that I am going in for do it in :1 perfect way Instead of going in a a ｾｯｭｰｲ･ｨ･ｮｳｩｶ･＠ legislation. hurry. We ""ill do it in a perfect way. I want that this' Bill should stand for a long time. We had gone through the election. We must also get a report of the CEC. We must As far as the number of constituencies also take into consideration the incidents is concerned. we are not concerned with it in that happened during the election. So, It will this Bill; that has not been covered in this Bill; take some time to come before the house we are only readjusting the constituencies with a consolidated Bill. I still stand by that. andatsothe Scheduled Caste constituencies. I have started the process; and I am also standing by what I had said earlier. Shr! Ram Vilas Pas wan has said that there W:-.S· a couble member constituency. In a few days, I am going to circulate the earlior. There were membars who were draft Bill to tha hon. Leaders of Opposition eleddd !n a double member constituency; .and also other hon. Members and call lor and I was also elected in 1955totheAssembly discussion. Alter that, we can como before from ｴｨｾ＠ dour'e member constituency. Mr. the House with a comprehensive Bill n:!xt Sanjoeva;ah was a candidate; I was also a time. I am not Interested In a piecemgal general candidate. I remember In Andhra legislation. So, I thought that I should come Pradesh and cat· other places In the country before the House with a consolidated Bill. I we had two Harijans who were elected. That stand by it; definitely, in the next session, we can also be considered in the Select will have a discussion. Committee. Then we are rotating them. That Idea can also come fdr discussion in the Very soon, I will give you Government's SeleCt Convnittee; andwhateyersuggestions views on the colTllrehensive electoral refonns the SeIectCommittee; gives, we can consider Bill. Then I will take your suggestions. After them in the Parliament and take decisions. that, we can come with a comprehensive Bill. Mr. S"mnath ｃｨ｡ｴｴ･ｾ･･＠ said that now As far as the Bill passed in Rajya Sabha the elections are over; suggestions of the is concemed, there seems to bo seme CEF ｨｾＮｶＸ＠ also come. We aro trying to see apprehension that the management of the that \'.'e must corne to a certain decision parties is not gooo; that Is why \,:8 have about this comprehensive legislation. changed the process; that is absolL1ely not correct. Some new ideas have COfTlO; ;>nd ｬｾｮｏＡＮ＠ the late Mr. GO!i\,'ami, in the short the hon. Members are now suggesting that limo, ｨｾＮ､＠ ｴ｡ｾＧ･ｮ＠ a lot of ｾｴ･［ｬｓＮ＠ A Committee it should go to tho Select Commit!" for .,.'as ccnstit"led consisting of all parties. It consideration. Since some new ideas have has given almost a unanimJus Report. Only come, nis bener· when we are goln!] for this In somccases, there and differences; and all type of legislation taking into consideration those things also we are taking into the various views • that it should go to the consideration. 355 Constitution (Seventy-First MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 81,82, 356 Amendment) Bill 170 and 327 There are certain Bills pending before of the electoral rolls will be over by 1.8.1992, the House. I am not interested in getting it After that at the earliest the Govemment will passed in a piecemeal. Now that we are take a decision to coru.luct the elections. The bringing forward a comprehensive BiII,let us Government is keen on conducting the go deep into this matter. elections In Deihl. We are also sincere In coming forward with a comprehensive Only recently, I have got a Report of the eleclora'law. My only interest is that I should CEC; in that Report also, he has Diven some not be in a hurry, I should not come in piece- suggestions. Along with those suggestions meal, but pass a legislation which will stand and the suggestions that are already there, the test of time. That is the reason. There Is we will have a comprehensive Bill very soon. no delay on our part. We are sincere about t wantthe Bilt which is passed in the Parliament it. I assure you that we will do it at the earliest. should stand. • [Translation] We are going to consult the Leader of the Opposition very soon; perhaps within a SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): Mr. week orten days. The draft Bill is ready. We Speaker, Sir, when would the Delimitation will go through some formalities; that is why Commission 3i11 be brought forward? we are waiting. Otherwise, I want to do it before the Parliament adjourns, but it may be [English] four-five days later. The comprehensive Bill will not be brought forward in this session; in SHRI K. VIJA YA BHASKARA REDDY: the next session, I assure the House, I will do After this Bill is adopted in Parliament, it will it. 1990-91 censusaregoingtobeconsidered, come, m: my friend, Shri Somnath ｃｨ｡ｴｴ･ｾ･･＠ not 1980-81. mentioned just now. We will come forward with it.; The Bill that was introduced by Shri Dinesh Goswami, as amended in the Rajya MR. SPEAKER: The question is: Sabha, is of 1991. (Interruptions) This is not the occasion to discuss those things. This Bill "That the Bill further to amend the concerns only delimitation. Constitution of India, viz. the Constitution (Seventy-first • SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Under Amendment) Bill, 1990, as passed Article 337 it can be considered. by Rajya ｾ｡｢ｬＧＩ｡＠ (Amendment of articles 81. 82, 170 and 327) be SHRI K. VIJAYA BHASKARA REDDY: referred to a Select Committee The Select Committee will consider all those consisting of 20 members, namely:- things. That is the reason why the Select Committee .is constituted. All those things (1) Shri Raghunandan Lal will be considered by them_ Bhatia As faras De:hi is concerned, the Leader (2) Shri Bula Singh of the Opposition wanted to know when the elections are going to be conducted. The (3) Shri Chandubhai Deshmukh delimitation commission is now busy with the delimitation of constituencies. The !:chedule (4) Shri Jaswant Singh has been annoonced by the Central Election Commission. The last date for receipt of (5) Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam objections and suggestions is 16.6.1992. This is the tentative programme, that has (6) Shri Ramkrishna Kusmaria been fixed for delimiting the constituencies of Delhi. The last date lor publication after the (7) Prof. Shrimati Savithrl completion is 10.7.1992, and the publication Lakshmanan 357 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) (Amendment ot Articles 358 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) (8) Shri Suraj Mandai Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration. (9) Shri Arvind Netam Honorable Members would recall that (10) Shri Ram Vilas Paswan as a follow up of Government's acceptance of certain recommendations of the Committee (11 ) Shri K. Pradhani on Reorganisation of Delhi set-up (known as Balakrishnan Committee), two Bills, namely, (12) Shri S.S.B. Rajendrakumar (i) the Cosntitution (Seventy-Fourth Amendment) Bill, 1991 and (ii) the (13) Dr. Lal Bahadru Rawal Govemment of National Capital Territory Bill, ＱＹＹｾ＠ were enacted by Parliament last (14) Shri Sudarsan year. Th3 new laws, intgr alia, provided for a Raychaudhuri Legislative Assembly and a Council of Ministers for the National Capital Territory of (15) Shri M. Baga Reddy Delhi. (16) Shri Vishwa Nath Shastri Ono of the recommendations of the (17) Shri Sukh Ram Committee relates to the inclusion of the members of the Legislative Assemblyforthe (18) Shir Syed Shahabuddin National Capital Territory of Delhi in the Electoral college for the eleciion of the (19) Shrimati Chandra Prabha President of India. It may be relevant to Urs; and mention that while the Government of Union Territories Act, 1963 provides for a Legislative (20) Shri Mukul Balkrishna Assembly and a Council of Ministers for Wasnik Pondicherry, the members of the Assembly do nto forn part of the electoral college for with instrucitons to report by the the election of the ,President of India. last day of the first week of the Monsoon Session, 1992". It may further be recalled that while considering the Bills relating to Delhi, views The motion was adopted were expressed in both the Houses of Parliament in favour of including also the elected members of the Legislative 17.38 hrs. Assemblies of Union territories in the electoral college for the election of tho President CONSTITUTION (SEVENTY-SIXTH under article 54 of the Constitution. and, it (AMENDMENT) BILL was dated on beh31f of the Government that AMENDMENT OF ARTICLES 54 AND the suggestions would be given due 239aa consideration on a priority basis. As passed by RaJya Sabha I am happy to say that we ha.... e now been able to formulate another amendment [English] to the Constitution, so as to include the elected members of the Legislative THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE Assemblies of Union territories in the electoral AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI K. VIJAYA college for the election of the President of BHASKARA REDDY): I beg to move: India. The present Bill is for the purpose of amending articles 54 of the Constitution to "'That the Bill further to amend the include those members in the electoral Constitution of India, as passed by college. 359 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 360 Amendment) Big 54 and 239M) [Sh. K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy] such appropriate laws in connection with the creation of a Legislativo Assembly for Delhi, • I would like to briefly refertothe provisions as stipulated in the said Constitution incorporated in the Bill. At present article 54 Amendment Act. The main purpose of the relating to the election of the President said sub-clause is to make it clear that any provides for an electoral college consisting law enacted pursuant to sub-clause (a) would of only the elected Members of both Houses not be an amendment to the Constitution, of Parliament as well as the Legislative but only an ordinary legislation passed by Assemblies of the States (not Union Par1iament in exercise of Its norrnalleglslatlve territories). Similarly, article 55 providing for functions. This is done by way of abundant the manner of such election also speaks of caution and is on the lines of similar provisions Legislative Assemblies of States. enacted by Parliament In the Constitution Accordingly, an Explanation is sought to be (Fourteenth Amendment) Act, 1962 for inserted in article 54 to provide that reference creation of local Legislatures or Council of to "State" In articles 54 and 55 would Include Ministers for certain Union territories. the Natlorlal Capital Territory of Deihl and the Union territory of Pondicherry for constituting The Bill, after It is passed by both the the electoral college for election onl"}.e Houses of Parliament, will require to be President. This would enable the elected ratified by the Legislatures of not less than members of those Legislative Assemblies to one-half of the States as required undersub- be included in the electoral college. clause (a) of proviso to article 368(2) of the Constitution. The Constitution (Seventy-Fourth Amendment) Bill , 1991 which was enacted The proposal included in the present Bill as the Constitution (Sixty-Ninth Amendment) covers an Important aspect of the election of Act, 1991 received assent of the President the President of India. It aims at providing on 21st December, 1991. The said Bill as representation to the legislators in Union originally introduced in the Lok Sabha sought Territory Legislatuures in the matter of to incorporate in article 239M'a sub-clause election of the President. It is my eamest (b) to clause (7) on the lines of clause (2) of hope that the Bill will recieve the unanimous article 239A which Pr9vides for a Legislative support of all sections of the House as it has Assembly and Council of Ministers for the received In the Council of States. Union territory of Pondicherry. The sub- clause was subsequently dropped since Sir, I now commend the Bill for the inclusion of the said sub-clause would have conside:·ation of the H:sue. necessitated rectification of the Bill by the Legislatures of not less than one-half of the MR. SPEAKER: tAotion moved: States and thereby delayed the early constitution of a Legislative Assemblyforthe "That the Bill further to amend the Union territory of Delhi. The said sub-clause Constitution Of India, as passed by is added in the present Constitution !=\ajaya Sabha, be taken Into Amendment Bill with retrospective effect I.e., consideration .• from 21st December, 1991. [Ttanslation] Article 239M, clause 7(b) is of a clarifiicatory nature. For removal of doubts it SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South has been stated in this sub-clause that any DeI"I): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I.support the 76th law made by Parliament by virtue of powers Constitution Amendment Bill that has been conferred by the Constitution (69th brought forward in the House today. Amendment) Act, 1991 shall not be deemed a Constitutional Amendment because the The h'ln. Mlnistgr made many promsles said Constitution Amendment'.d had already In r')Q8mb3r 1991 when a Bill for giving conferred powers on Par1lamenl b ｭｾ･＠ statEilood to D31hi '.vas brought forward in 361 Constitution (Seventy· VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA)(Amendment ot MicJes 362 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) the House; One of the many promises he position. I would, therefore, like to ask the made was that the Members of Delhi and hon. Minister, through you, that he should tell Pondicherry legislativbe Assemblies would the people of Deihl as to when the assembly be included in the electro I College for the elections would be held in Delhi and he election ofthe President. It was also promised should also say as to what will be done in that elections would be held in Delhi in seven respect of other matters. I would like to give to eight months. Notto speak of the elecitons 2-3 examples regarding the state of and other promises, since the Congress uncertainly in Deihl. Four lakh people are Party is likely to get votes from Pondicherry arriving in Delhi every year and there is a Assembly in the Presidential election, need of one lakh houses. Besides, the so ..... (Interruptions) population of Deihl is Increasing everyday but the Government is providing only 8,000 hosues. Secondly, three·years back, the Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am saying this number of private and D. T.C. buses in Delhi because as per the assurance 6-8 months was 5500 which has now been reduced to complete in July. If they had held the elections 4800. While the population of Deihl has before July I would have thought that they increased by ten lakh, the number of buses have fuHilled their promises. They had also has been reduced. Houses are not being assured that a Bill regarding the further built. The law and order situation is structure of Delhi would also be brought deteriorating from bad to worse, I would, forward. But what will to the fate of Delhi therefore, like that, at ths moment, there Municipal corporation? What will be its should be some announcement about the number? Will there be 2, 3 or 5 Corporations? future structure of Delhi. A Bill on the basis of the recommendations of Sarkaria Commission was also supposed to be introduced by the Government. What Mr. Speaker, Sir, thirdly: I would like to has happened to those enrecornmendations? say that it has just been stated that delimitation it was also promised that the Delhi MuniCipal of constituencies would be done; but one Corporation would be divided into many thing is lacking. It has been passed in a hurry. parts . Now the people of Delhi are asking There is a provision under Delimitation Act whether the elections to Delhi assembly that the members of State Assemblies and would be held or not? Will there be elections the Members of Parliament should be to Corporation or not? Will there be 5, 6 or 10 associated with Delimitation Commission Corporations? Nothing is being said about all upto a certain ratio. But the elected Members this. What will be the fate of Delhi Munici·pal of Delhi are not being given any cognisance Corporation and D.D.A.? There was a today. I, therefore, suggest that even though proposal to trifurcate it. Is It being done or this Act has been passed, the elected not? Will the requisite amendment be made members of Delhi should also be associated inthe Act ornot?Simllariy, wlllDESUcontlnue with It because delimitation Is now being to function and will a Water Board be done In Delhi by one person. Honouring the constituted? I am asking all these mainly sentiments of Delimitation Ad, M.Ps should because the Government had made some also be associated with this delimitation promises about the future structure of Delhi process. what happened to all those promises. Mr. Speaker, Sir, keeping In view the slow pace, it Is uncertain as to when the Mr. Speaker, Sir,l would like to say that elections would be held in Delhi. I would like even If assembly elections are held in Delhi, that the hon. Minister, even If he is not going the problems of Delhi will not be SOlved, as to hold elections before the Presidential long as a Bill on the basis of Sarkaria election, should announce the progranvnes. qomrnission recommendations is not brought if nolthe date, for holding assembly elections forward and passed by the House. It causes in Delhi. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to conem. Today you are not able to clarify the make a submission about by-elections. 363 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 364 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) • [English] so that the Members of the Legislative Assembly of Pondicherry and Delhi will be MR. SPEAKER: It is off the mark. able to take part in the Presidential elections. I would like to submit that the masses of other [ Translation] areas ｡ｬｾｯ＠ have the same democratic hopes and aspirations. The people of Lakshsweep, SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: I do not Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Dadra and want to discuss the reforms which have Nagar Haveli and the Union Territories like already been pOinted out by Shri Advani. Chandigarhetc. where there is no Legislative There was a proposal to use electronic Assembly, are being deprived of this right. machines in this by-election as a first step Therefore, I would like to submit since the towards electoral reforms, With that, people Hon. Prime Minister, aU the senior Members would have feltthatthe Govemment is sincere olthe Cabinet and the leader of the Opposition abouteiectoral reforms. What are the reasons are also present that there should be a that electronic-machines are not being used provision forthe people of Union Territories in the by-election? I have come to know that where there is no Legislature Assembly to elections in Gujarat have been postponed partit:ipate in the Presidential elections. due to drought. But it is not correct it was postponed because the Government was SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA(Madhubani): scared that allthe four seats of Gujarat would Mr. Speaker, Sir, on behalf 01 my party I be bagged by the B.J.P. The truth is that the support the Constitution Amendment Bill, Chief Minister of that State is going abroad which .is being discussed in the House. for personal reasons and that is why it was Besides, I \'Iant to say'something specially decided to postpone the by-elections. about Delhi. Lastly, onthe one hand, while I support Delhi is the capital olthe country and the this Bill, on the other hand I would like to population figures are changing very fast request the Hen. Prime Ministerthrough you and in the recent past it has changed very that he should soon make an ｡ｮｮｯｵｮ｣･ｭｾｮｴ＠ rapidly. Though, the elections are to be held about elections in Delhi. Perhaps, they will on the basis of 1991 Census but the not be able to hold elections before the delimitation of constituencies should also be Presidential election but he must say as to done ｾｯ＠ that all can have equal representation. when the elections would be held. I wanted I want to emphasize that all ｾｨｯｵｬ､＠ get equal to make this much submission onl}/. representation whether they are the labourers, masons, jhuggi dwellers or the [English] people living in palances. . Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not want that there SHRI MRUTYUNJAYA NAYAK should ue further delay in the elections of (Phulbani): Sir, I would request the hon. Delhi due to the other reforms in the electoral Minister that before reterring this Bill to the process. Wa should have thought over it Select Committee, adequate representation earlier. I do not want to say anything about should begiven to Scheduled Castes on that the ｩｮｴｾｮｴｩｯｮ＠ of the Government or that the Committee. matter is being delayed deliberately but there is scope of doubt since the issue has been MR. SPEAKER: No, that is anothar Bill. procrastinated. Now, when the political decision has been taken there should be no [ Translation] question of procrastination. The delimitation of Constituencies should be done on the SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA basis o! 1991 census so that the election can (Andaman & Nicobar Islands): Mr. S;>eak'3r, be held ｾｲｯｰ･ｲｬｹ＠ and no area and no section Sir, it is an occasion of happiness for the of the society is left neglected. With these people of Delhi and Pondicherry that the words,l support this Constitution Amendment House is passing a Constitution Amendment Bill. 365 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA) (Al118ndment of Articles 366 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV Governmentto take early action in this regard. (Saharasa): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support the Thank you. . Constitution Amendment Bill regarding Delhi and Pondicherry and my submission to you MR. SPEAKER: I think we shall have to is that there are many people in Delhi, who extend the time of the House till we complete were left due to one reason orthe other in the this item of business. last census and I understand that they are nearly 20-25Iakh. The names ofthese 20-25 SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. lakh of people are not included in the voters list of Delhi. My submission is that their MR. SPEAKER: The time of the House names should be included into the voters list 1S extended till the completion of this item. and only then the elections should be held so that the poor can elect their representatives [ Translation] and they too can participate in the elections. It is the need of the hour. SHRI PIUS TIRKEY (Alipurduars): Mr. Speaker, 'Sir, on behalf of my party I support With this submission I support the the Constitution Amendment Bill presented Constitution Amendment Bill presented in in the House regarding Delhi and Pondicherry. the House. Besides,lwantto make only ｯｮ･ｳｵｾｭｩｳｳｩｯｮＮ＠ [English] Delhi is a metropolitan city and we will be happy if it becomes the first composite SHRI SUDARSAN RAYCHAUDHURI State in the country where the population (Serampore): Sir, the Preamble of our would be of composite nature and multi Constitution stipulates that our country is linguistic. It will be the first state of the Democratic and at the same time a Republic. country which will be formed on multi-linguistic: It was not a tal'tology. Republic means that basis. It will be a first step in this direction. I the Head of th3 State, President, must be support it whole heartedly on my behalf and elected. But there was a flaw in Article 54 of on behalf of my party. the Constitution in the sense that it empowers only the elected M.Ps. and elected members 18.00 hrs. of the Legislative Assemblies of different States to be included in the electoral college [English) that will elect the President of India. Bl't now Delhi is going to have one elected Legislative SHRI K. VIJA YA BHASKARA REDDY: Assembly. the Union Territory of Pondicherry Sir, I am very happy that this Bill has got the already has one elected Le,gislative support of the entire House, Shri Madan Lal Assembly. It is goodthat this Amendment Bill Khurana initiated it. We have heard him so is with us which would enable the proposed many items. In his mind, Delhi is at the top, members of the proposed Legislative every time he talks about Delhi elections. Assembly of Delhi and members of This House has already passed the Bill and Pondicherry Legislative Assembly to Delhi ic; going to be a State and it is going to participate in the election of the Pres:dent of haV3 a ｾ･ｧｩｳｬ｡ｴｵｲ･＠ and also a Ministry and India. the St'.1e Legislators of Delhi also when electec, will be voter.: in the Presidential Lastly, I would like to make one appeal election. Along with Oclhi, Pondicherry also on behalf 01 the Union Territory 01 Andaman will havothe benefit,l mean, the Members of and Nicobar Islands. The people of this area legislature of Pondicherry will have the beneftt. have a long-standing demand that they As the hon. Members said that elected • should have one elected Legislative members of the Assembly should have it. Assembly so that the Members of that Assembly may also take part in the election As far as Delhi is concerned, the of the President of India, I urge upon the Delimitation Commission if functioning, he 367 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7. 1992 (Amendment of ArtIcIss 368 AmerJdtnsnt) Bill 54 and 239AA) [Sh. K. Vljaya Bhaskara Reddy) States. But how It Is done and all that, the Home Minister looks after that. I will convey knows It. and the schedule of delimitation it to the Horne Minister. The schedule of about which Shri Advani also wanted me to dates for notification. ｴｲ｡ｮｳ｡ｾｩｯｮｳ＠ and say, I have said it and it is a tentative date and everything has been published. So, the after delimitation of the constituencies Is Govemment is sincere to have the elections over, definitely the elections wiD be held at at the earliest. Perhaps after the delimitation the earliest. I do not know whether we can of the constituencies is clone, tile Govemment have it right now. but we will have It at the wiD have the elections and In the next earliest Presidential elections we will have the Legislators of Deihl also. [ Translation) So, I again thank aU the Members for SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South their cooperation. . Deihl): MPs should also be associated with this wor1<. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: What about the Andaman and Nicobar Islands? SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhinagar): Mr. Speaker. Sir. this is very valid and useful SHRI K. \lIJAYA BHASKARA REDDY: point. namely. that normally the Delimitation My friend, Mr. Manoranjan Bhakta has been Commission BiD provides that Members of asking for it for a very long time, and I always Parliament would be Associate members have been sympathetic to him. but It Is a and in the case of Assembly delimitation. different Issue, not concemed with this. But Members of the Assembly should be the we will take that up later. II friends from Delhi Associate Mermars. Here, in this case there and Pondicherry, who are legislators, get Is no Delimitation BIll at aD. Here It Is being the vote, naturally It may be supporting the a done by the Eloction Commission. So. In the case for you also In course of time. fitness of things, keeping to the spirit of the ( Intarruptions) proposal for delimitation, if you associate Mermars of Parliament from Deihl with the Thank you very mUCh, Sir. I thank delimitation of constituencies in Deihl. It Members of all parties once again and I would be a right thing and It can be done by request that.thls Bill be passed. the Govemment. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Before I put the motion ( Translation) for ｣ｯｮｾｲ｡ｴｬｯｮ＠ to the vote of the House, this belr.g a Constitution (Amendment) Bill, ｓｈｒｉｂｈｏｇｅｎｄｒａｊｈａＺｍｾＮ＠ Spoaker. voting '::18 to be cob division. SIr, f9Pr8sentation of all political parties should be there in it let the lobbies be cleared. (Englsh) Now the lobbies have been cleared. SHRllAL K. ADVANI: Eitherway it can Th9 question Is: be done. (Interruptions) "That the Bill further to SHRI K. VUAYA BHASKARA REDDY: amend the Constitution of Sir. the delimitatiOl. is being conducted by India. as passed by Rajya the C.E.C.I am not aware of it,l will look into 5abha, be taken Into that. I wUl have to 8Xanine t, I can assure consideration.· you as 10 What I can do. But I know the Delimitation Commission where they co-opt The LaIc Sabhl cIivided M.Ps. and also Legislators from various 369 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 370 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) 18.11 hr.. Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Division No. 19 Bhardwaj, Sflrl Paras Ram Ayes Bhargava, Shri Girdhari Lal Acharia, Shri Basu Deb Bhatia, Shrl Raghunandan Lal Adaikalaraj, Shri l. Bhattacharaya, Shlimati Malini Advani, Shri La! K. Bhol, Dr. Krupaslndhu Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra BhonsJe, Shri Prataprao B. Ahmed, Shrl Kamaluddin BhonsJe, Shri Tejsinghrao Alyar, Shrl Manl Shankar Bhurla, Shrl Dileep Singh Akbar Pasha, Shri B. • Birbai, Shri Anjalose, Shri Thayil John Buta Singh, Shri Ansari, Shri Mumtaz Chacko, Shri P.C. Antulay, Shrl A.R. Chaliha, Shrl Kirip ａｲｵｮ｡｣ｨ｡ｬ｡ｭｾ＠ Shri M. Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal Asokaraj, Shrl A. Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Athithan, Shri R. Dhanuskocli Charles, Shri A. Azam, Dr. F aiyazul Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti Baitha, Shrl Mahendra Chaudhary, Shrl Kamal Bala, Dr. Asim Chaudhary, Shri Ram Prakash Balayogi, Shrl G.M.C. Chaudhrl, Shri Narain Singh Ballyan, Shri NK Chaure, Shri Bapu Hari Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. Bansal, Shrl Pawan Kumar Chavda, Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai Barman. Shri Uddhab Chennithala, Shri Ramesh Basu, Shri Chitta Chidambaram, Shri P. Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Chinta Mohan, Dr. Bhagey Gobarclhan, Shrl Choudhary, Shrt Ram Tahal 371 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of Articles 372 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin, Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik Chowdhary, Dr. K.V.R. Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao Chowdhary, Shrimati Santosh Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh Damor, Shri Somjibhai Gamjt. Shri Chhitubhai Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath Ga\ it. Shri Manikrao Hodlya Das, Shri Jitendra Nath Gehlot. Shri Ashok Deka, Shri Probin Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh Delkar, Shri Mohan S. Giri, Shri Sudhir Dennis, Shri N. Girija Devi, Shrimati Deshmukh, Shri Anantrao Gogoi, Shri Tarun Deshmukh, Shri Ashok Anandrao Gomango, Shri Giridhar Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Gudadinni, Shri BK Devarajan, Shri B .. Gundewar, Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Devi, Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Gupta, Shri Indrajit Dhumal, Prof. Prem Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna Dighe, Shri Sharad Harchand Singh, Shri Digvijaya Singh, Shri (Rajgarh) Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Dome, Dr. Ram Chandra Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal Drona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh Ind9r Jit, Shri Dubey, Shrimati Saroj Isl-:m, Shri Nurul Dun, Shri Sunil Jaffer Sharief, Shri C.K. Faleiro, Shri Eduardo Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram Farook, Shri M.O.H. Jaswant Singh. Shri Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashraf Jatav, Shri Bare Lal Fernandes, Shri George Ja":ali, Dr. B.G. Fernandes. Shri Oscar Jayamohan, Shri A. 373 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 374 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Kon3thala, Shri Rama Krishna Jha, Shri Bhogendra Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Jhikram, Shri Mohanlal Krishan Kumar, Shri S. Joshi, Shri Anna Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Joshi Shri Dau Dayal Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharoai Sonaji Kahandole, Shri Z.M. Kudumula, Kumari Padamasree Kairon, Shri Surinder Singh Kuli, Shri Balin Kale, Shri Shankarrao D. Kumar, Shri Nitish Kamal, Shir Shyam Lal Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Kamal Nath, Shri Kuppuswamy, Shri CK Kamat, Shri Gurudas Kurien, Prof. P.J. Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Lakshmanan, Prof. Savithri Kamson, Prof. M. . LalJan Sasha, Shri S.M. Kanithi, Dr Viswanalham Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh Kap.se, Shri Ram Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari Mallikarjun, Shri Kasu, Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy Ma':ikarjunaiah, Shri S. Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal Mallu, Dr. R. Kaul, Shrimali Sheila Manjay Lal, Shri Kaur, Shrimati Sukhbuns Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. Kewal Singh, Shri Mathew, Shri Paia K.M. Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Maurya, Sllri Anand Raina Khan, Shri Sukhendu Meena, Shri Bheru Lal Khanduri, Shri Bhuwan Chandra Meghe, Shri Datta Khanoria, Shri 0.0, Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram Khurana, Shri Madan Lal Mishra. Shri Ram Nagina Khursheed, Shri Salman Mis:ra, Shri Shyam Bihari 375 Constitution (Ssventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 376 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Mollah, Sllri Hannan Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas Mukherjee, Shrimali Geeta P,Jal, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas Mukhopadyay, Shri Ajoy ｐ｡｢ｾＬ＠ Shri Brishin Murmu, Shri Rup Chand Pat'a, Shri Harilal Nanji Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashakara ?abl, Shri Praful Munamwar, Shr! Vilas Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar Naik, Shri A. Venkatash Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harjibhai Naik, Shri Ram Palil, Shri Prakash V. Narayanan, Shri K.R. Palil, Shrimati Pratibha Devisingh Narayanan, Shri P. G. Patil, Shrimati Surya Kania Nawala, Shri Vidura Vithoba PatH, Shri Uttarnrao Dcorao Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Patill, Shri Yashwantrao Netam, Shri Arvind Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Nikam, Shri Govindrao Patra, Dr. Kartikeswar Nyamagouda, Shri S.e. Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Chandra Odayar, Shri Channaiah Pawar, 'Shri Sharad Oraon, Shri Lalit Pawar, Dr. Vasant Niwrutti OWaisi, Shrl SuHan Salahuddin Paruman, Dr. P. Vallal Padma, Dr. (Shrimati) Pilot, Shri Rajesh Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad PotJukha, Shri Shantaram Pal, Shri Rupehand Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan Palacholla, Shri Vankata Rangayya PrC'dhanl. Shri K Naidu Prakash, Shri Shashi Pandeya. Dr. Laxminarayan Pramanik, Shri Radhika Ranjan Pandian, Shri D. Prr.tSaa, Shrl Hari Kawai Panigrahi, Shri Snballav Purkayastha. Shri Kabindra Paswan, Shri Chhedi Rahi, SM Ram lal 377 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 378 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Rai, Shri Kalp Nath Reddy, Shri G. Ganga Rai, Shri LaU Babu Reddy Shri M. G. Rai, Shri M. Ramanna Reddy; Shri Magunta Subbarama Rajaravivarma, Shri B. ｒ･ｾ､ｹＬ＠ Shri R. Surender Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Reddy, Shri K. Vi;aya Bhaskara Rajeswari, Shrimati Basava ｒｯｹｾｲ｡､ｨ｡ｮＬ＠ Shri Amar Raju, Shri Bh. Vijayakumar Sac'JI, Shri Dharm3nna Mondayya Rajulu, Dr. R.K.G. Sai, Sh!i A. Pratap Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. Salian Kumar, Shri Ram Sadan, Shri Sangma, Shri Purno A. Ram .Singh, Rao Sanipalli, Shri Gangadhara Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally Sarode, Dr. Gun'/ant Rambhau 'Ramasamy, Shri Rajagopal NajQu Sa\'Jant, Shri Sudhir Ramdew Ram, Shr! Sayeed, Shri P.M. Rana, Shri Kashiram ｓ｣ｩｾＮ､ｩ｡Ｌ＠ Shri Mad"'avrao Rao, Shri J. Chokka Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha Selj3, Kumar! Rao, Shri V. Krishna Shankaranand, Shri·B. Rawa!, Shri Bhagwan ShanKar Sharma, Shri Chiranji lal Rawat, Shri Prabhu lal Sharma. Shr! Satish Kumar Rawal, Prof. Rasa Singh Sha:;tri, Shri Vishwanath Ray, Shri Rabi Shivappa, Shri Kodakani Gowdana Ray, Dr. Sudhir Shukla, Shri Vidyacharah Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Silvera, Dr. C. Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. Singh, Shri Arjun Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran Singh. Dr. Chaltrapal Reddy. Shri Anantha Venkata Singh, Shri Dalbir 379 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of Articles 380 Amendment) Bill SII and 239AA) Singh, Shri Hari Kishore 1 homas, Shri P.C. Singh, Shri Khelsai ＧＡＧＢｨｾＨ｡ｴＬ＠ Shri Sandipan Bhagwan Singh, Shri Manphool Thungon, Shri P .K, Singh, Shri Motilal Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee Singh, Shri Pratap Ti.1(ey, Shri Pius Singh, Shri Rajveer Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand Singh, Shri Ram Tc:>dar, Shri Tarit Baran Singh, Shri Ram Prasad Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb Singh, Shri S.B. Topno, Kumari Frida Singh Deo, Shri K.P. Tytl 3r, Shri Jagdish Sodi, Shri Manku Ram Umbrey, Shri lacta Solanki, Shri Surajbhanu Upadhyay, Shri Swarup Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. Urr. Shrimti Chandra Prabha Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan Vandayar, Shri K. Thulasiah Sreenivaasan, C. \Jarma, Sh'ri Ratilal Sukh Ram, Shri Verma, Shri Bha\'Jani lal Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Dutt Verma, Kumari Vimla Sundararaj, Shri N. Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. Surash, Shri Kodikkunil Vyas, Dr. Girija . Swamy, Shrir G. Venkat Wasnik, Shri Mukul 8alkrishna Tandel, Shri D. J. Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet Tara Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad Tej Narayan Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh Yadav, Shri Ram Saran Thanghaba\u, Shri K.V. Yadav, Shri Surya Narayan Tharadevi Siddhartha, ｓｨｲｩｾｴｩ＠ D.K. Zc.!na\ Abedin, Shri 381 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Artic/es 382 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) NOES Adaikalaraj, Shri L. * Shrl Anbarasu Era Advani, Shri Lal K. • Shri Satyagopal Misra Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra • Or.OS.P. Yadav Ahmed. Shri Kamaluddin MR. SPEAKER: Subject to correction·· the result of the division is: Alyar. Shri Mani Shankar Ayes 318 Akber Pasha, Shri B. Noes 3 Anbarasu Era. Shri The motion is carried by a majority of the Anjalose. Shri Thayil John total membership of the House and by a majority of not less than two-thirds of the Ansari. Shri Mumti¥ Members present and voting. The motion was adopted Antulay. Shri A.A. MR. SPEAKER: Now Clause 2 Before I Arunachalam. Shri M. put clause 2 to the vote of the House, I would , like to say that this being a Constitution Asokaraj. Shri A. (Amendment) 8ill, voting has to be by division. Athithan, Shri A. Dhanuskodi let the lobbies be cleared - Now the Lobbies are cleared. Azam. Dr. Faiyazul The question is: Baitha. Shri Mahendra "That clause 2 stand part of the 8ala. Dr. Asim BiII.- Balayogi. Shri G.M.C. The Lok Sabha divided Balliyan. Shri' N.K. 18.17 hrs ｂ｡ｮ･ｾ･･Ｌ＠ Kumari Mamata Division No. 20 Ayes Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Acharia. Shri Basu Deb Barman. Shri Uddhab ·Worngly voled for Noes . • The following members also recorded Their votes. Ayes: Shri Anbarasu Era. Shri S.M. Mujahid, Prof. K. V. Thomas, Shri P.P. KaJiperumal, Sl7ri Sant Ram Sing/a, Shri K.H. Muniyappa, Shri Subhash Chandra Nayak, Shri Satyagopal Misra, Shrimati Oil Kumari Bhandari, Shri Srikant Jena, Dr S.P. Yadav, Shri Braja Kishore Tripathy. 383 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 384 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Basu. Shri Chitta Cheennithala. Shri R .. mesh Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Chidambaram, Shri P. Bhagey Gobardhan. Shri Chinta Mohan, Dr. Bhakta. Shri Manoranjan Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal_ Bhandari. Shrimati Oil Kumari Choudhury, Shri Salfuddin, Bhardwaj. Shri Paras Ram Chowdhary. Shrimati Santosh Bhargaya. Shri Girdhari Lal Dadahoor, Shrl Gurcharan Singh Bhatia. Shri ｒ｡ｧｨｾｮ｡ｮ､｡ｮ＠ Lal Damor•. Shrl Somjibhai Shattacharaya, Shrimati Malini Oas, Shri Owaraka Nath Bhoi. Dr. Krupasindhu Oas, Shri Jitendra Nath Shonsle, Shri Prataprao B. Delfa; Shri Probin Shonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao Der. Bhuria. Shri Oileep Singh Dennis, Shri N. Birbal. Shri Deshmukh, Shri Anantrao Buta Singh Dashmukh. Shri AshC'k Anandrao Chacko, Shri P. C. De:, Shri Sontosh Mohan Chaliha. Shri Kirip Devarajan. Shri B. Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Devi, Shrimati Bibhl.' Kumari Charles. Shri A. ｄｨ｜ｬｭ｡ｾ＠ Prof. Prem Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti Oighe, Shri Shard Chatterjee. Shri Somnath Digvi,iaya. Singh, Shrl Chaudhary. Shri Kamal Dome. Dr. Ram Chandra Chaudhary. Shri Ram Prakaksh Orona, Shri Jagat \'ir Singh Chaudhri. Shri Narain Singh . Dubey, Shrimati Saroi Chaure, Shri Bapu Hari Dutt. Shri Sunil Chavan, ShTi Prithviraj O. faleiro, Shrl Eduardo Chavda, Shri Ishwarbhai I Femandes, Shri George Jawali, Dr. B.G Femandes, Shri Oscar Jayamohan, Shri A. Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao Jena, Shri Srikanta Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath Jha, Shri Bhogendra Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh Joshi, Shri Anna Gamit, Shri Chhitubhal Joshi, Shri Dau Dayal Gavit. Shri Manikrao Hodlya Kahandole, Shri Z.M. Gehlot, Shri Ashok Kairon, Shri Surinder Singh Ghatowar, Shri Patlan Singh Kale, Shri Shankarrao D. Giri, Shri Sudhir Kaliaperumal, Shri P.P. Girija Devi Shrimati Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal Gogoi. Shri Tarun Kamal Nath, Shri Gomango, Shri Giridhar Kamat, Shri Gurudas Gudadinni, Shri B.K. Kamble. Shri Arvind Tl'.Ishiram Gundewar, Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Kamson,. Prof. M. Gupta, Shri Indrajit Kanithi, Dr. Viswanatham Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna Kapse, Shri Ram Harchand Singh, Shri Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Kasu,Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal Inder Jit, Shri K3UI. Shrimati Shllila Islam, Shri N'urul Kallr, Shrimati ｓｾＡ［ｨ｢｡ｮｳ＠ Jaffer Shanef, Shri C.K. Kewal Singh, Sh1 Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram Kasri Lal. Shri Jaswant Singh, Shrl KhC'n, Shri Aslam. Sher 3.87 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of Articles 388 Amendment) Bin 54 and 239M) Khan, Shri Sukhandu Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna Khanduri, Shri Bhuwan Chandra Meena, Shrl Bharu Lal Khanoria, Shri D.O. Meghe, Shri Datta Khurana, Shri Madan Lal Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram Khursheed, Shri Salman Mishra, Shri Ram Naglna Konathala, Shri Rama Krishan Misra, Shri Satyagopal Korl, Shri Gaya Prasad Mitra, Shri Shyam Biharl Krishan Kumar, Shri S. MJHah, Shri Hannan Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Mu' Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji Muniyappa, Shri K.H. Kudumula. Kumar! Padamasree Murmu, Shri Rup Chand ｋｵｾＬ＠ Shri Balin Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekara Kumar, Shri Nitish Naika, Shri A. Venkatesh Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Nai!<, Shri Ram Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K. Narayanan, Shri K.R. Kurian, Prof. P.J .. Narayanan, Shri P.G. Lakshmanan, Plot. Savithri Nawale, Shri Vidura Vithoba Laljan Basha, Shri S. M. Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Malik, oharampal Singh Netam, Sh.rt Arvind. Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Nikam, Shri ｇｾｶｩｮ､ｲ｡ｯ＠ ｍ｡ｬｬｬｫ｡ｾｵｮＬ＠ Shri Nyamagouda, Shrl S.B. Mallikarjunaiah, Shri S. Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Manu, Dr. R. Oraon, Shri Lalit Manjay Lal, Shri OWaisi, Shri Sultan Salahudcln Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. Padma, Dr. (Shrtmatl) Mathew, Shrt Pala K.M. Pal, Dr. Deb; Prosad 389 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17, 1914 (SA: Palacholla, Shri Venkata Rangayya Pradhanl, Shri K. Naidu Prakash, Shri Shashl Pandeya, Dr. laxminarayan Prainanik, Shrl Radhlka Ranjan Pandian, Shri D. ｐｲ｡ｾ｡､Ｌ＠ Shri Han ! Pilot. Shri Rajesh Rawat: Shri Bhagwan Shankar Potdukhe. Shri Shantaram Rawat. Shri Prabhu L.al 391 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth . MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 392 Amendment) eill 54 and 239M) Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh Sharrm, Shri ｃｨｩｾ｡ｮｪｩ＠ Lal Ray, Shri Rabi Sharma, Shri Satish Kumar Ray, Dr. Sudhir Shastri, Shri Vish\'!anath Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Shivappa, "Shri Kodakani Gowdana Reddaiah Yadav, K.P. Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran Silvera, Dr. C. Reddy, Shri Anantha Venkata SinOh, Shri Arjun Reddy. Shri G. Ganga Singh. Dr. Chattrapal Reddy, Shri M. Baga Singh, Shri Dalbir Reddy, Shri M.G. Singh, Shri Hari Kishore Reddy, Shri Magunta Subharama Singh, Shri Khelsai R_eddy, Shri R. Surender Singh, Shri Manphool Reddy, Shri A. Vijaya Bhaskara Singh, Shri MoUlal Roypradhan. Shri Amar Singh, Shri Pratap Sadul, Shri Dharmanna Mondayya Singh, Shri Rajveer Sai, Shri. A. Pratap Singh. Shri Ram Salian Kumar. Shri Singh. Shri S.B. Sangma. Shri Purno A. Singla. Shri Sant Ram Sanipalli, Shri Gangadhara Sodi, Shri Manku Ram Sarode. Dr. Gunvant Rambhau Solanki, Shri Surajbhanu Sawant, Shri Sudhir Soundaram. Dr. (Shrimti) K.S. Sayeed. Shri P.M. Sridharan. Dr. Rajagopalan Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Sreenivasan, Shri C. Scindia. Shrimati Vijayaraje Sukh Ram. Shri Selja, Kuman Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Outt Shah, Shri Manabendra Sunllararaj, Shri N. Shankaranand, Shri B. Surash, Shri Kodikkunil 393 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 394 Sixth Amendment) 8111 54 and 239M) Swamy, Shri G. Venkat Wasnik, Shri Mukul Balkrishna Tandel, Shri O.J. Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet Tara Singh. Shri Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Thangkabalu, Shri K V. Yadav, Shri Ram Saran Tharadevi Siddhartha, Shrimati D.K. Yadav, Dr. S.P. Thomas, Prof. KV. Zainal Abedin, Shri Thomas, Shri P.C. NOES Thorat, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan Shri K V.A. Chowdary Thungon, Shri P.K. MA. SPEAKER: Subject to correction-, Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee the resun 01 the division is: Tirkey, Shri Pius Ayes 323 Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand Noes Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran The motion is carried by a majority of the total membership of the House and by a Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb majority of not less than two-thirds of the Members present and voting. Topno, Kumari Frida The motion was adopted Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani Clause 2 was added to the Bill Tytler, Shri Jagdish MA. SPEAKER: Now Clause 3 the Umbrey, Shri Laeta Lobbies are already cleared. Upadhyay, Shri Swarup The question is: Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha "That Clause 3 stand part of the Bill.· Vadde, Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao The Lok Sabha divided Vandayar, Shri K Thulasiah 18.17 hrs. Varma, Shri Ratilal Division 20 Verma, Shri Bhawani Lal Ayes Verma, Kumari Vimla Acharia. Shri Basu Deb Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. Adaikalaraj, Shri L. Vyas, Dr. Girija ·The following members also recorded Their votes AyfYS: Shri Mohanlal Jhikeram, Shri B.M. Mujahid Shri Vilas Muttemwar. Shri Chandulal Chandrakar. Shri KP. Singh Deo, Shri Subash Chandra Nayak. Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee. Shri Rambadan, Shri Surya Narayan Yadav, 395 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of ArtiCles 396 Amendment) Bill .. 54 and 239M) Shri Ram Prasad Singh, Shri Shashi Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Prakash. . Bhagey Gobardhan, Shri Advani, Shri Lal K. Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra Bhandari, Shrimati Oil Kumari Ahmed, Shri Kamaluddin Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram Aiyar, Shri Mani Shankar Bhargava, Shri ｇｩｲ､ｨｾｲｩ＠ Lal Akber Pasha, Shri B. Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal Anbarasu Era, Shri Bhattacharaya, Shrimati Malini Anjalose, Shri Thayil John Bhol, Dr. Krupasindhu Ansari, Shri Mumtaz Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. Antulay, Shrl A.A. Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao Arunachalam, Shri M. Bhuria. Shri Dileep Singh Asokaraj, Shri A. Birbal. Shri Athithan, Shri A. Dhanuskodi Buta Singh, Shri Azam, Dr. Faiyazul Chacko. Shri P.C. Baitha, Shri Mahendra Chaliha. Shri Kirip Bala, Dr. Asim Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Balayogi, Shri G.M.C. Chartes, Shri A. Baliyan, Shri N.K. Chatterjee. Shri Nirmal Kanti Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Chatteqee. Shrt Somnath Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Chaucllary. Shri Kamal Barman, Shri Uddhab Basu, Shri Chitta Chaudhary. Shrl Ram Prakash 397 Constitution (Ssventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 398 Sixth Amendment) BiR 54 and 239AA) Chaudhri, Shri Narain Singh Oigvijaya Singh, Shrl Chaure, Shri 8apu Hart Dome, Dr. Ram Chandra Chavan, Shri Prithviraj O. Orona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh Chada, Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai Dubey, Shrlmati Saroj Chennithala, Shrt Ramesh Outt, Shr! Sunil Chidambaram, Shri P. Faleiro, Shri Eduardo Chinta Mohan, Dr. Farook, Shri M.O.H. Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal Fatmi, Shrt Mohammad Ali Ashraf Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin Femandes, Shri George Ctiowdhary, Shrimati Santosh Femandes, Shri Oscar Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan ｾｉｮｧｨ＠ Fundkar, Shrt Pandurang Pundlik oamor, Shri Somjibhai Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao oas, Shri owaraka Nath Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath Das, Shri Jitendra Nath Galib, Shr! Gurcharan Singh Oeka, Shri Probin Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai Delkar, Shri Mohan S. Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya Dennis, Shri N. Gehlot, Shri Asho!< Deshmukh, Shri Anantrao Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh Deshmukh, Shri Ashok Anandrao Giri. Shri Sudhir Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Girija Devi, Shrimati Devarajan, Shri B. Gogol, Shri TaTUn Devi, Shrirnati Bibhu Kumari Gomango, Shri Giridhar Ohumal, Prof. Prem Gudadinni. Shri B.K. Oighe, Shn Sharad Gundewar. Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao 399 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7. 1?92 (Amendment of Artic/es 400 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Gupta. Shri Indrajit Kanithl. Dr. Viswanatham Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna Kapsa, Shri Ram Harchand. Singh. Shri Karreddula. Shrlmatl Kamala Kuman Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Kasu. Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal «atheria. Shri Prabhu Dayal Inder Jit, Shri Kaul. Shnmati Sheila Islam. Shri Nurul Kaur. Shrimati Sukhbuns Jaffer Sharief, Shn C.K. Kawai Singh. Shrl Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram Kasri lal, Shri Jaswant Singh. Shri Khan. Shri Aslam Sher Ja:av. Shri Bare lal Khan. Shri Sukhendu Jawali, Or. B.G. Khanduri. Shri Bhuwan Chandra Jayamohan. Shri A. Khanoria, Shri D.O. Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Khurana. Shri Madal Lal Jena. Shri Srikanta Khursheed. Shri Salman Jha, Shri Bhogendra Konathala. Shri Rama Krishna Joshi, Shri Anna Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Joshi, Shri Oau Dayal ｋｲｩｾｨ｡ｮ＠ Kumar, Shri S. Kahandole, Shri Z.M. Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Kairon, Shri Surindar Singh Kshirsagar. Shrimati Kesharoai Sonaji Kale, Shri Shankarrao O. Kudumula. Kumari Padamasree ｋ｡ｬｩ｡ｰ･ｲｵｭ｡ｾ＠ Shri P.P. Kuli, Shrl Balin Kamal, Shri Shyam lal Kuman, Shri Nitish Kamal Nath. Shri Kumaramangalam. Shri. Rangarajan Kamat, Shri Gurudas Kuppuswamy. Shri C.K. Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Kurion, Prof. P.J. Kamson. Prof. M. Lakshmanan, Prof. SavIIhri 401 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 402 Sixth Amendment) BiN 54 and 239M) Laljan Basha, Shri S.M. Netam. Shri Arvind Malik, Dharal'Jl)al Singh Nikam, Shri Govindrao Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Nyamagouda, Shri S.B. Mallikarjun, Shri Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Mallikarjunaiah, Shri S. Oraon, Shri Lalit Mallu, Dr. R. Owaisi, Shri Sultan Salabuddin Manjay Lal, Shri Padma, Dr. (Shrimati) Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. Pal, Shri Rupchand Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna Palacholla, Shri Venkata Rangayy. Naidu Meena, Shri Bheru Lal Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan Moghe, Shri Datta Pandian, Shri D. Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Misra, Shri Ram Nagina Pawan, Shri Chhedi Mishra, Shri Satyagopal Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas Misra, Shri Shyam Bihali Patel, Dr. Arrvit Lal Kalidas Mollah, Shri Hannan Patel, Shri Brishin Mukhopadyay, Shri Ajoy 4 Patel, Shrf Harilal Nanji Muniyappa, Shri K.H. Patel, Shri Praful Murmu, Shri Rup Chand Patel. Shri Shravan Kumar Murthy, Shri M.V. ｃｨ｡ｮｇＱｲ｡ｳｾ＠ Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harjibhai Naik, Shri A. Venkatesh Patil, Shri Prakash V. Naik, Shri Ram Narayanan, Shrl K.R. Patll, shrlmati Pratibha Devisingh Narayanan, ShrI P.G. PaW, Shrimati Surya Kanta Nawale. Shri Vidura Vithoba Patll, Shri Ultamrao Dcorao Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Patil, Shri Vashwantrao 403 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 404 Amendment) Bill . 54 and 239M) Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Rarndew Ram, Shri Patra, Dr. Kartikeswar Rana, Shri Kashiram Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Chandra Rao, Shri J. Chokka Pawar, Shri Sharad Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha Pawar, Dr. Vasant Niwruttl Rao, Shrl V. Krishna Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar Pilot, Shri Rajesh Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan Ray, Shri Rabi Pradhani, Shri K. Ray, Dr. Sudhir Prakash, Shri Shashi Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Pramanik, Shri Radhika Ranjan Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. Prasad, Shri Hari Kawai Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran Purkayastha, Shri Kabindra Reddy, Shri Anantha Venkata Rahi, Shri Ram Lal Reddy, Shri G. Ganga Rai, Shri Kalp Nath Reddy, Shri M. Baga Rai, Shri Lall Babu Reddy, Shri M.G. Rai, Shri M. Ramanna Reddy, Shri Magunta Subbarama Rajaravivarma, Shri B. Reedy, Shri R. Surander Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Reddy, Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Rajeswari, Shrimati Basava Roypradhan, Shri Amar Raju, Shri Bh. Vijayakumar Sadul, Shri Dharmanna Mondayya Raiulu, Dr. RKG. Sai, Shri A. Pratap Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. Sallan Kumar, Shri Ram Singh, Rao Sangma Shri Pumo A. Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally ｓ｡ｮｩｰ｡ｬｬｾ＠ Shri Gangadhara Ramasamy, Shri Rajagopal Naidu Sarode, Dr. Gunvant Rambhau . 405 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Al7I8ndment o( Articles 406 Sixth Al7l9ndlTl9nt) Bill 54 and 239AA) Sawant, Shri Sudhir Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. Sayeed, Shri P.M. Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Sreenivasan, Shri C. Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje Sukh Ram, Shrl Selja, Kumari Sur.anpuri, Shri Krishan Out! Shah, Shri Manaberidra Sur.dararaj, Shri N. Shankaranand, Shri B. Sumsh, Shri Kodikkunil Sharma,·Shri Chiranji Lal Swamy, Shri G. Venkat Sharma, Shri Salish Kumar Tandel, Shri D.J. Shastri, Shri Vishwanath Tara Singh, Shri Shivappa, Shri Kodakani Gowdana Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan Thangkabalu, Shri K. V. Silvera, Dr. C. Thi'radevi Siddhartha, Shrimati D.K. Singh, Shri I,rjun ThC'mas, Prof. K. V. Singh, Dr. Chattrapal Thomas, Shri. P.C. Singh, Shri Dalbir Thorat, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan Singh, Shri Hari Kishore Thungon, Shri P.K. Singh, Shri Khelsai Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee Singh, Shri Manphool Tirkey, Shri Pius Singh, Shri Motilal Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand Singh, Shri Pratap Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran Singh, Shri Rajveer Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb Singh, Shri Ram' Topno, Kumari Frida Singh, Shri S.B. Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani Singla, Shri Sant Ram Tytler, Shfi Jagdisn Sodi, Shri Manku Ram Umbre'i, Shri Lac\a Solanki, Shri Surajbhanu Upadhyay, Shri Swarup 407 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment Qf Articles 408 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Upadhyay, Shri Swarup The motion is carried by a majority of the total membership of the House and by a Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha majority of not less than two-thirds of the Members present and voting. Vadde, Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao . The motion was adopted Vandayar, Shri K. Thulasiah Clause 3 was added to the Bill Varma, Shri Ratilal Clause 1-Short Tittle and Verma, Shri Bhawani Lal CotTlfT18ncement Amendment made: Verma, Kumari Vimla Page 1, line 3,- Vijayaraghavan. Shri V.S. for "Seventy-first" Vyas, Dr. Girija Substitute "Seventieth" Wasnik, Shri Mukul Balkrishna (Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy) Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet MR. SPEAKER: The question is: Yadav. Shri Chun Chun Prasad "That Clause 1, as amended. stand Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad part of the Bill". Yact:lv, Shri Ram Saran The Lok Sabha divided 18.20 hrs. Yadav, Dr. S.P. Division No. 21 Zainal Abedin. Shri Ayes Noes Shri K:V.R. Chowdary Acharia. Shri Basu Deb MR. SPEAKER: Subject to correction,· Adaikalaraj, Shri l. the result of the division is: Advani, Shri Lal K. Ayes 323 Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra Noes Ahmed. Shri Kamaluddin "The following members also recorded their votes. Ayes: ShriMohanlalJhkram,Shri B.M. Mujahid,ShriViiasMutlem.var.ShriChnd&.dalChandrakar. Shri K.P. Singh 080. Shri Subash, Chandra Nayak, Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee, Shri Ram Badan, Shri Surya Narayan Yadav. Shri Ram Prasad Singh, Shrl Shashl PrakaSh 409 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment o/Articles 410 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Aiyar, Shri Mani Shankar Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. Akbar Pasha, Shri B. Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao Anbarasu Era, Shri Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Anjalose, Shrl Thayil John Birbal. Shrl Ansari, Shri Mumtaz Buta Singh, Shrl Antulay, Shri A.A. Chacko. Shro P.C. Aruchalam, Shri M. Chaliha, Shri Kirip Asokaraj, Shri A. Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal Athithan, Shri A. Ohanuskodi Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Alam, Dr. Faiyazul Charles, Shri A. Baitha, Shri Mahendra ｃｨ｡ｴｴ･ｾ･･Ｌ＠ Shri Nirmal Kanti Bala, Dr. Asim ｃｨ･ｲｲ･ｾ･･Ｌ＠ Shrl Somnath Balayogi, Shri G.M.C. Chaudhary, Shrl Kamal Baliyan, Shri NK Chaudhary, Shrl Ram Prakash ｂ｡ｮ･ｾ･･Ｎ＠ Kumari Mamata Chaure, Shri Bapu Han Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Chavan. Shri Prithviraj D. Barman, Shri Uddhab Chavda, Shrllshwarbhai Khodabhai Basu, Shri Chitta Chennithala, Shri Ramesh Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Chidambaram. Shri P. Bhagey Gobardhan, Shri Chinta Mohan. Dr. Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal Bhandari, Shrimati Oil Kumari Choudhury. Shrl Saifuddin Bhardwaj. Shri Paras Ram Chowdhary, Shrimati Santosh Bhargava. Shri Girdhari Lal Oadahoor. Shrl Gurcharan Singh Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal Damor, Shri Somjibhai Bhattacharaya, Shrimati Malini Oas, Shrl Dwaraka Nath Bhol. Dr. Krupasindhu Dar, Shri Jitendra Nath 411 Constitution (Seventy-SiXth MAY 7.1992 (ArnendlT19nt of Articles 412 AmendlT19nt) BiR 54 and 239M) Deka, Shri Probin Giri, Shri Sudhir Delkar. 'Shrl Mohan S. GirlJa Devl. Shrlmatl Dennis. Shri N. Gogol. Shri Tarun Deshmukh. Shri Anantrao Gomango. Shri Giridhar Deshmukh. Shri Ashok Anandrao Gudadinnl. Shri B.K. Dey. Shri Sontosh Mohan Gundewar. Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Devarajan. Shri B. GU;')ta. Shri Indrajit DeYi. Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Handique. Shri Bijoy Krishna Dhumal, Prof. Prem Harchand Singh, Shri Dighe, Shri Sharad Hooda. Shri Bhupinder Singh DigYijaya Singh. Shri Hossain. Shri Syed Masudal Dome Dr. Ram Chandra Inder Jit, Shri Orona. Shri Jagat Vir Singh Islam. Shri Nurul Dubey, Shrimati Saroj Jaffer Sharief. Shri CK Dutt, Shri Sunil Jangde. Shri Khelan Ram Farook. Shri M.O.H. Jaswant Singh. Shri Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashraf Jawali, Dr. B.G. Femandes. Shri George Jayamohan. Shri A. Femandes, Shri Oscar Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Fundkar. Shri Pandurang Pundlik Jena, Shri Srikanta Gaikwar. Shri Udaysingrao Jh:l, Shri Bhogendra Gajapathi. Shri Gopi Nath Jhi: .ram, Shri Mohanlal Galib. Shri Gurcharan Singh Joshi. Shrl Anna Gamit. Shri Chhitubhai Joshi. Shri Dau Dayal GaYit. Shri Manikrao Hodlya Kahandole. Shri Z.M. Gehlot. Shri Ashok Kairon. Shri Surinder Singh Ghatowar. Shri Paban Singh Kale. Shri Shankarrao D. 413 Constitution (Ssventy- VAISAKHA 1 7, 1914 (SAKA) (Amendment of Articles 414 SIxth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) KaJiaperumal, Shri P.P. Kuli, Shri Balin Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal Kumar, Shri Nitish Kamal Nath, Shrl Kumaramangalam, Shrl Rangarajan Kamat, Shri Gurudas Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K. Kamble, Shrl Arvind'Tulshiram Kurian, Prof. P.J. Kamson, Prof. M. Lakshmanan, Prof. Savithri Kanithl, Dr. Viswanatham Laljan Sasha, Shri S.M. Kapsa, Shri Ram Malik, Oharampal Singh Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari Malik, Shri Puma Chandra Kasu, Shrl Venkata KrisMa Reddy ｍ｡ｬｬｩｫ｡ｾｵｮＬ＠ Shrl Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal MaJlikarjunaiah, Shri S. Kaul, Shrlmati Sheila Mallu, Dr. R. Kaur, Shrimati Sukbhuns Manjay Lal, Shri Kewal Singh, Shri Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. Kesri Lal, Shri Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna Khan,ShrlSukhendu Meena, Shri Sharu Lal Khanduri, Shri Shuwan Chandra Meghe, Shri Datta Khanoria, Shri D.O. Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram Khurana, Shri Madan Lal Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina Khursheed, Shri Salman Misra, Shri Satyagopal Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna Misra, Shri Shyam Bihari Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Mallah. Shri Hannan Krishan Kumar, Shrl S. Mujahid, Shrl S.M. Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Mul:herjee, Shrimati Gaeta Kshlrsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonajl Mukhopadyay, Shri Ajoy Kudumula, Kumar! Padamasree Munlyappa, Shri K.H. 415 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of Articles 416 Amendment) Bin 54 and 239M) Murmu, Shri Rup Chand Patel, Shri Harilal Nanji Murthy, Shri M. V. Chandrashekara Patel, Shrl Praful Muttemwar, Shri Vilas Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar Naik, Shri A. Venkatesh Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harjibhal Naik, Shri Ram ｐ｡ｴＨＩｾ＠ Shri Prakash V. Narayanan, Shri K.R. Patil, Shrimati Pratibha Devisingh Narayanan, Shri P.G. Patil, Shrimati Surya Kanta Nawale, Shri Vidura Vithoba PatH, Shri Uttamrao Deorao Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Nayak, Shri Subsh Chandra Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Netam, Shri Arvind Patra, Dr. ｾ＼｡ｲｴｩｫ･ｳｷ｡ｲ＠ Nikam, Shri Govindrao Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Chandra Nyamagouda, Shri S.B. PaNar, Shri Sharad Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Pawar, Dr. Vasant Niwrutti Oraon, Shri Lalit Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Owais, Shri Sublan Salah uddin Pilot. Shri Rajesh Padma, Dr. (Shrimati) Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Pal, Shri Rupchand Prabhu Zantye, Shrl Harlsh Narayan Palacholla, Shri Venkata Rangayya Pradhani, Shri K. Naidu Prakash, Shri Shash! Pandeya, Dr. ｌ｡ｾｭｩｮ｡ｲ｡ｹ｡ｮ＠ Pramanik, Shri Radhika Ranjan Pandian, Shri O. ｾＬｓｨｲｩｈ｡ｲｩｋ･ｷ｡ｩ＠ Panigrahi, Shrl Srlballav Pur1ulyastha, Shrl Kablndra Paswan, Shri Chhedi Rahi, Shri Ram Lal Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas Rat, Shrl Kalp Nath Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal KaJidas Rai. Shri LalI Babu Patel, Shri Brishin Rai. Shri ... Ramanna 417 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 418 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Rajaravivarma, Shri .B. Reddy, Shri R. Surender Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Reddy, Shri Vijaya Bhaskara Rajeswari, Shrimatl Basava Roypradhan, Shri Amar Raju, Shri Bh. Vijaykumar Sadul, £11ri Dharmanna Mondayya Rajulu, Dr. R.K.G. Sal, Shri A. Pratap Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. Salian Kumar, Shri Ram Singh, Rao Sangma, Shri Purno A. Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally Sanlpalli, Shri Gangadhara Ramasamy, Shri Rajagopal Naidu Sarode, Dr. Gunvant Rambhau Ramdew, Ram, Shrl Sawant, Shri Sudhir Rana, Shri Kashiram Sayeed, Shri P.M. Rao, Shri J. Chokka Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje Rao, Shri V. Krishna Selja, Kumari Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar Shah, Shri Manabendra Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Sh3.nkaranand, Shri B. Rawat, Prof. ｒ｡ｳｾ＠ Singh Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal Ray, Shri Rabi Sharma, Shri Satish Kumar Ray, Dr. Sudhir Shastri, Shri Vishwanath Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Shivappa, Shri Kodakani Gowdana Reddaiah Vadav, Shri K.P. Shukla. Shri Vidy;:.charan Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran Silvera, Dr. C. Reddy, Shri Anantha Venkata Singh, Shri Arjun Reddy, Shri G. Ganga Singh, Shri Dalbir Reddy, Shri M. Baga Singh, Shri Hari Kishore Reddy, Shri M.G. SIngh, Shri Khalsai Reddy, Shri Magunta Subbarama Singh Shri Manphool 419 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7,1992 (Amendment of Articles 420 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Singh, Shri Motilal Thungon, Shri PK Singh, Shri Pratap Tindivanam, Shn K. Ramamurthee Singh, Shri Rajveer ｔｩｲｫ･ｾＬ＠ Shri Pius Singh, Shri Ram Tomar, Dr, Ramesh Chand c Singh, Shri S.B. Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran Singh Deo, Shri K.P. Tope Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb Sing la, Shri San! Ram ｔｯｰｮｾＬ＠ Kumari Frida Sodi, Shri Manku Ram ｔｲｩｾ｡ｴｨｩＬ＠ Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani Solanki"Shri Surajbhanu Tytler, Shri Jagdish Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. Um':lrey, Shri Laeta Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan Upadhyay, Shri Swarup Sreenivasan, Shri C. Urs, Shrimati Chancra Prabha Sukh Ram, Shri '/a"'de, Shri Sobhanadre'eswara Rao Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Out! Varma. Shri RatilaJ Sundararaj, Shri N. Verma. Shri Bhawani Lal Suresh, Shri Kodikkunil Verma, Kumati Vimla Swamy, Shri G. Venkat Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. Tandel, Shri D. J. VY[lS, Dr. Girija Tara Singh. Shri W<:..snik. Shri MukuJ Balkrishna Tej Narayan Singh, Shri Yad2v, ｾＮ＠ ,-i Chandra jeef Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh \'c,dav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad 'fhangkabalu, Shri K.V. Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Tharadevi Siddhartha, Shrimati OK Yadav, Shri Ram Saran Thomas. Prof. K. V. Yadav, Dr. S.P. Thomas, Shri P.C. '\'2dav, Shn Surya J'I!arayan Thorat. Shri Sandipan Bhagwan Yumnam. Shri Yaima Singh 421 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 422 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) NOES The Lok Sabha divided: NIL 18.23 hrs. MR. SPEAKER: Subject 10 Division No. 22 correction:lhe result of Ih!'l division is: Ayes Ayes 326 Acharia. Shri Basu Deb Noes Nil Adaikalaraj. Shri L. The motion is carried by a majority of the total membership of the House and by a Advani, Shri La! K. majority of not less than two-thirds of the Members present and voting. Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra The motion was adopted. Ahmed. Shri Kamaluddin Clause 1. as amended. was added to the Aiyar. Shri Mani Shankar Bill. Akber Pasha. Shri B. MR. SPEAKER: The question is: Anbarasu Era. Shri "That the Enacting formula and the long title stand part of the Bill" Anialose. Shri Thayil John The motion was adopted Ansari. Shri Mumtaz The Enacting formula and the long Title Antulay. Shri A.A. were added to the Bill. Arunachalam. Shri M. MR. SPEAKER: The Minister may now .. move that the Bill be passed. AsoKara\. SM A. SHRI K. VIJAYA BHASKARA REDDY: Athilhan, Shri R. I beg to move: luam. Dr. F aiyazul "That the Bill. as amended, be passed". Bartha. Shri Mahendra MR. SPEAKER: Since this is required to Bala, Dr. Asim be passed by a special majority. voting will be by division. Balayogi, Shri G.M.C. Let the lobbies be clearned- Baliyan. Shri N.K. Now the lobbies have been cleared. Banerjee. Kumari Mamata The question IS: Bansal. Shri Pawan Kumar "That the Bill. as amended. be passed." Barman, Shri Uddhab "The follOWing members also recorded their votes: Ayes: Dr. D. P. Pal, Shri Narain Singh Chaudhri. Shri Barelal Jatav, Shri Thulasiah Vandyar, Shr, K.V. A. Chowdary. Shri Ram Badan. Shri Ram Prasad Singh. A 423 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7, 1992 (Amendment of Artlcfes 424 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Basu, Shri Chitta Chavda, Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Chennithala, Shri Ramesh Bhagey Gobardhan, Shri Chidambaram. Shri P. Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Chlnta Mohan, Dr. Bhand4tri, Shrimati Oil Kumari Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin Bhargava. Shri Girdhari Lal Chowdary. Dr. K.V.R. Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal Chowdhary. Shrimati Santosh Bhattacharaya, Shrlmati Malini Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu Damor, Shri Somjibhai Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath Bhonsle. Shri Tejsinghrao. Das. Shri Jitendra Nath Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Deka, Shri Probin Birbal, Shri Delkar, Shri Mohan S. Buta Singh, Shri Dennis, Shri N. Chacko, Shri P.C. Deshmukh. Shri Anantrao Chaliha. Shri Kirip Deshmukh. Shri Ashok Anandrao Chandraker, Shri C.handulal Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Chandrasekhar. Shrimati Maragatham Devarajan, Shri B. Charles, Shfi A. Devl, Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Chatterjee. Shri Nirmal Kanti Dhuma!, Prof. Prem Chatterjee, Shri Somnath Dighe, Shri Sharad Chaudhary, Shri Kamal Digvijaya Singh, ｾｨｲｬ＠ Chaudhary, Shri Ram Prakash Dome, Dr. Ram Chandra . q,tlaudhri, Shri Naraln Singh Drtna, Shri Jagal Vir Singh Chaure. Shri Bapu Hari Dubey, Shrimati Saroj Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. Dun, Shrl Sunil 425 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment o( Articles 426 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Farook, Shri M.O.K. Jatav, Shri Bare Lal Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashraf Jawali, Dr. B.G. Femandes, Shri George Jayamohan, Shri A. Femandes, Shri Oscar Jaevarathinam, Shri R. Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik Jena, Shri Srikanta Gaikwad. Shri Udaysingrao Jha, Shri Bhogendra Gajapathi Shri Gopi Nalh Jhikram, Shri Mohanlal Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh Joshi, Shri Anna Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai Joshi, Shri Dau Dayal Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya Kahandole, Shrl Z.M. Geholot, Shri Ashok Kai.cn. Shri Surinder Singh Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh Kale, Shri Shankarrao D. Giri, Shri Sudhir Kaliaperumal. Shri P.P. Girija Devi, Shrimati Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal Gogoi, Shri Tarun Kamal Nath, Shri Gomango. Shri Giridhar Kamat, Shri Gurudas Gudadinni. Shri BK Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshirrn Gundawar. Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Kamson. Prof. M. Gupta, Shri Indrajit Kanithi. Dr. Viswanatham Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna !(apse, Shri Ram Harchand Singh, Shri ｉｾ｡ｲｲ･､､ｵｬ｡Ｌ＠ Shrimati Kamala Kumari Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Kasu, Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal Indar JIt, Shri Kaul, Shrimati Sheila Jaffer Sharief, Shri CK Kaur, Shrimati Sukhbuns Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram Kewal Singh, Shrl . Jaswant Singh, Shri ｋ･ｾｲｩ＠ LaI, Shri 427 Constitution (Seventy-Sixth MAY 7. 1992 Ｈｾｭ･ｮ､ｭ･ｮｴ＠ of Mic/es 428 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239M) Khan:Shri Alam Sher Maurya, Shrl Anand Ratna Khan, Shri Sukhendu Meena, Shri Bheru Lal Khanduri, Shri Bhuwan Chandra Meghe, Shri Datta Khanoria, Shri D.O. Mirdha, Shrl Nathu Ram Khurana, Shri Madan lal Mishra, Shrl Ram Nagina Khursheed, Shrl Salman Misra. Shrl Satyagopal Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna Misra. Shri Shyam Bihari' Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Mollah. Shri Hannan Krishan Kumar, Shri S. Mujahid. Shri B.M. Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Mukherjee, Shrimati Gaeta Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji Mukhopadyay. Shri Ajoy Kudumula, Kumari Padamasree Muniyappa. Shri K.H. Kuli, Shri Balin Murmu, Shrl Rup Chand Kumari, Shri Nitish Murthy. Shri M.V. Chandrashekara Kurnaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Muttemwar, Shri Vilas Kuppuswamy. Shri C.K. Naik. Shri A. Venkatesh Kurien. Prof. P.J. Naik. Shri Ram lakshmanan. Prof. Savithri Narayanan, Shri K.R. laljan Basha. Shri S.M. Narayanan. Shri P.G. Malik. Dharampal Singh Nawale. Shri Vidura Vithoba Malik. Shri Puma Chandra Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Mallikarjun. Shri Nayak, Shri Subash Chandra Mallikarjunaiah. Shri S. Netam. Shri Arvind Mallu. Dr. R. Nikam, Shri Govindrao Manjay lal. Shrl Nyamagouda, Shrl S.B. Marbaniang. Shri Peter G. Odeyar. Shri Channaiah Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. Ora on, ShrilaJit 429 Constitution (Seventy· VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 430 SIxth Amendment) Bill . 54 and 239AA) Owaisi, Shrl Sultan Salahuddin Pilot, Shri ｒ｡ｪ･ｳｾ＠ Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram Pal, Shri Rupchand Prabhu Zantye, Shrl Harish Narayan Palacholla, Shri Venkata Rangayya Pradhanl, Shri K. Naidu Prakash, Shri Shashl Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan Prarnanlk, Shri Radhlka Ranjan Pandian, Shri D. Prasad, Shrl Harl Kewal Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Purkayastha, Shri Kabindra Paswan, Shri Chhedi Ral.i, Shri Flam Lal Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas Rat, Shri Kalp Nath Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas Rai, Shli Lall Babu Patel, Shri Brishin Rat, Shri M. Ramanna Patel, Shri Harilal Nanj; Rajaravivarma, Shri B. Patel, Shri Praful Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar Rajeswari.ShrimtiBasava Patel, Shri Uttambhai ｈ｡ｾｩ｢ｨ｡ｩ＠ Raju, Shri Bh. Vijayakumar Patil, Shri Prakash V. Rajulu, Dr. R.K.G. Patil, Shrimati Pratibha Devisingh Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. Patil, Shrimati Surya Kanta Ram Badan, Shri Patil, Shri Uttamrao Deorao Ram Singh, Rao Patil, Shri Yashwantrao Ramchandran Shri Mullappally Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Ramasamy, Shrl Rajagopal Naidu Patra, Dr. Kartikeswar Rarndew Ram, Shri Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Chandra Rana, Shri Kashiram Pawar, Shri Sharao.. Rao, Shrl J. Chokka Pawar, Dr. Vasant Niwrutti Rao, Shrl P. V. Narsimha Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Rao, Shri V. Krishna 431 Constitution (SBventy-SiJeth MAY 7,1992 (AmencJment of Articles 432 Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar Shah, Shri Manabendra Rawat, Shri Prabhu lal Shankaranand. Shri B. Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh Sharma. Shrl Chiranji lal Ray, Shri Rabi Sharma. Shri Satish Kumar Ray. Or. Sudhir Shastri, Shrl Vishwar'!ath Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Shivappa. Shri Kodakani Gowdana Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. Shukla. Shri Vidyacharan Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran Silvera, Dr. C. Reddy. Shri Anantha Venkata Singh, Dr. Chattrapal Reddy. Shri G. Ganga Singh. Shri Dalblr Reddy, Shri M. Baga Singh. Shri Hat;! Kishore Reedy, Shri M.G. Singh. Shri Khelsai Reedy. Shri Magunta Subbarama Singh, 'Shri Manphool Reddy, Shri R. Surender Singh, Shri Motila! Reddy. Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara Singh. Shri Pratap Roypradhan. Shri Amar Singh, Shri Rajveer Sadul, Shri Oharmanna Mondayya ｾｩｮｧｨＬ＠ Shri Ram . Sai. Shri A. Pratap Singh, Shri S.B. Sajjan Kumar, Shrl Singh, Deo, Shri K.P. Sangma, Shri Pumo A. Singla, Shri Sant Ram SanipaUi, Shri Gangadhara Sodi, Shri Manku Ram Sarode. Dr. Gunvant Rambhau Solanki. Shrl Surajbhanu Sawant, Shri Sudhir Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. S3yeed, Shri P.M. Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan Scindia, SIvl Uadhavrao Sraenlvasan, Shri C. Scindia. Shrimati Vi;ayara;e Sukh Ram, Shrl Selja. Kumari Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Dutt 433 Constitution (Seventy- VAISAKHA 17,1914 (SAKA)(Amendment of Articles 434 Sixth Amendment) Bill 54 and 239AA) Sundararaj, Shri N. Verma, Kumar! Vimla Suresh, Shri Kodikkunil Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. Swamy, Shri G. Venkat Vyas, Or. Girija Tandel, Shri O.J. Wasnik, Shri Mukul Balkrishna Tara Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet Tej Narayan Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh Yadav, Shri Oevendra Prasad Thangkabalu, Shri K.V. Yadav. Shri Ram Saran Tharadevi Siddhartha, Shrimati D.K. . Yadav, Dr. S.P. Thomas Prof. K. V. Yadav, Shri Surya Narayan Thomas, Shir P.C. Yumnam, Shri Yaima Singh Thon, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan NOES Thungon, Shri P.K. NIL Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee MR. SPEAKER: Subject to correction, "the result of the division is: Tiikey, Shri Pius Ayes 328 Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand Noes: Nil Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran The motion is carried by a majority of the Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb total membership of the House and by a majority of not less than two-tturds of the Topno, Kumari Frida members present and voting. Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani The Bin, as amended. is passed by the requisite majority, In accordance with the Tytler, Shri Jagdish provisions of Article 368 of the Constitution. Umbrey, Shri Laeta The motion was adopted Upadhyay, Shri Swarup MR. SPEAKER: The House stands adjoumed to meet again tomorrow, Friday, Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha the 8th May at 11 A.M. Vadda. Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao The Lok Sabha then adjoumed till Eleven of the Clock on Friday, May 8. 19921 Varma. Shri Ratilal Vaisakha 18. 1914 (Saka). 'The following members also recorded their votes:- Ayes: Shri ａｾｵｮ＠ Singh, Dr. (Shrimati) Padma. Shri Bhawani Lal Verma. Shri Thulasiah Vandyar, Shri Ram Prasad Singh. . Printed at: S. Narayan & Sons. 0e1hi-11 0006