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A Ayub Khan, Shri (Jhunjhunu)

Abdul Ghafoor, Shr; (Gopalganj) Azam, Dr. Faiyazul (Bettiah)

oedya Nath, Mahant (Gorakhpur) B

Ar"aria, Shri Basudeb (Bankura) Baitha, Shri Mahendra (Bagaha)

Adaikalaraj, Shri L. (TiruchirapaUi) Bala, Dr. Asim (Nabadwip)

Advani, Shri Lal K. (Gandhi Nagar) Balayogi, Shri G.M.C. (Amalapuram)

Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra (Jhansi) Ballyan, Shri N.K. (Muzaffarnagar)

Bandaru, Shri Dattatraya Ahamed, Shri E. (Manjeri) (Secunderabad) Ahirwar, Shri Anand (Sagar) Banerjee, Kumari Mamata (Calcutta South) Ahmed, Shri Kamaluddin (Hanamkonda) Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Alyar, Shn Man; Shankar (Mayiladuturai) (Chandigarh)

Ajit Singh, Shri (Baghpa!) Barman, Shri Palas (Balurghat)

Akber Pasha, Shri B. (Vellore) Barman, Shri Uddhab (Barpeta)

Amar Pal Singh, Shri (Meerut) Basu, Shri Ani! (Arambagh)

Anbarasu, Shri R. (Madras Central) Basu, Shri Chitta (Barasa!)

Anjalose, Shri Thayil John (Alleppey) Berwa, Shri Ram Narain (Tonk)

Ansari, Dr. Mumtaz (Kodarma) Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh (Faridabad)

Antulay, Shri A.R. (Kulaba) Bhagat, Shri Vishweshwar (Balaghat)

Arunachalam, Shri M. (Tenkasi) Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan (Andaman & Nicobar Islands) Asokaraj, Shri A. (Perambalur) Bhandari, Shrimati Oil Kumari (Sikkim) Athithan, Shri R. Dhlinuskodi (Tiruchendur) Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram (Sarangarh) (i) Bhargava, Shri Girdhari LaI (Jaipur) Chaudhary, Shri Rudrasen (Bahralch)

Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal (Amritsar) Chaudhri, .Shri Narain Singh (Hissar)

Bhattacharya, Shrimati Malini (Jadavpur) Chauhan, Shri Chetan P .S. (Amroha)

Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu (Sambalpur) Chauhan, Shri Shivraj Singh (Vldisha)

Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. (Satara) Chaure. Shri Bapu Hari (Ohule)

Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao (Ramtek) Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. (Karad)

Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh (Jhabua) Chavda, Shri Harisinh (Banaskantha)

Birbal, Shri (Ganganagar) Chavda, Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai (Anand) Brar, Shri Jagmeet Singh (Faridkot) Chennithala, Shri Ramesh (Kottayam) Brohmo Chaudhury, Shri Satyendra Nath (Kokrajhar) Chidambaram, Shri P. (Sivaganga)

Buta Singh, Shri (Jalore) Chhatwal, Shri Sartaj Singh (Hoshangabad) C

Chhotey Lal, Shri (Mohanlalganj) Chacko, Shri P .C. (Trichur)

Chikhlia, Shrimati Bhavna (Junagarh) Chakraborty, Prof. Susanta (Howrah)

Chaliha, Shri Kirip (Guwahati) Chinta Mohan, Dr. (Tirupathi)

Chandra Shekhar, Shri (Ballia) Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal (Ranchi)

Chandrakar, Shri ChandlJlai (Durg) Choudhury, Shri Lokanath (Jagatsinghpur)

Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin, (Katwa) (Sriperumbudur) Chowdary, Dr. K.V.R. (Rajahmundry) Charles, Shri A. (Trivandrum) Chowdhary, Shri Pankaj (Maharajganj) Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti (Dumdum) Chowdhary, Shrimati Santosh (Phillaur) Chatterjee, Shri Somnath (Bolpur) Chowdhury. Shri A.B.A. Ghani Khan Chaudhary, Sqn. Ldr. Kamal (Hoshiarpur) (Maida)

(ii) o Dighe, Shri Sharad (Bombay North Central) Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh (Sangrur) Dikshit, Shri Shreesh Chandra (Varanasi)

Dalbir Singh, Shri (Shadol) Diwan, Shri Pawan (Mahasamund)

Damor, Shri Somjibhai (Dohad) Dome, Dr. Ramchandra (Birbhum)

Das, Shri Anadi Charan (Jajpur) Orona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh (Kanpur)

Dubey, Shrimati Saroj (Allahabad) Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath (Karimganj) Dutt, Shri Sunil (Bombay North West) Das, Shri Jitendra Nath (Jalpaiguri) F Das, Shri Ram Sunder (Hajipur) Faleiro, Shri Eduardo (Mormugao) Datta, Shri Amal (Diamond Harbour) Farook, Shri M.O.H. (Pondicherry) Deka, Shri Probin (Mangaldoi) Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashraf Delkar, Shri Mohan S. (Darb hang a) (Dadra and Nagar Haveli) Femam.. es, Shri George (Muzaffarpur) Dennis, Shri N. (Nagercoil) Femandes, Shri Oscar (Udupi) Deora, Shri Murli (Bombay South) Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik (Akola) Deshmukh, Shri Anantrao (Washim) G Deshmukh, Shri Ashok Anandrao (Parbhani) Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao (Kolhapur)

Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath (Berhampur) Deshmukh, Shri Chandubhai (Bharuch) Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh (Ludhiana) Dev. Sl)ri Sontosh Mohan (Tripura West) Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai (Mandvi) Devarajan, Shri B. (Rasipuram) Gangwar, Dr. P.R. (Pilibhit) Devegowda, Shri H.D. (Hassan) Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar (Bareilly) Devi, Shrimati Bibhu Kumari (Tripura East) Gautam, Shrimati Sheela (Aligarh)

Dharmabhiksham, Shri (Nalgonda) Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya (Nandarbar)

DhUl;,al, Prof. Prem (Hamirpur) Gehlot, Shri Ashok (Jodhpur) (iii) Ghangare, Shri Ramchandra Marotrao J (Wardha) Jaffer Sharief, Shri C.K. (Bangalore North) Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh (Dibrugarh) Jai Prakash, Shri (Hardoi) Giri, Shri Sudhir (Contai) Jakhar, Shri Balram (Sikar) Girija Devi, Shrimati (Maharaj Ganj) Janarthanan, Shri M.R. Kadambur Giriyappa, Shri C.P. Mudala (Chitradurga) (Tirunnelveli)

Gogoi, Shri Tarun (Kaliabor) Jangbir Singh, Shri (Bhiwani)

Gohil, Dr. Mahavirsinh Harisinhji Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram (Vilaspur) (Bhavnagar) Jaswant Singh, Shri (Chittorgarh) Gomango, Shri Girdhar (Koraput) Jatav, Shri Bare Lal (Morena) Gopalan, Shrimati Suseela (Chirayinkil) Jatiya, Shri Satynarayan (Ujjain) Gowda, Prof. K. Venkatagiri (Bangalore South) Jawali, Dr. B.G. (Gulbarga)

Gudadinni, Shri B.K. (Bijaipur) Jayamohan, Shri A. (Tirupattur)

Gundewar, Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Jeevarathinam, Shri R. (Arakonam) (Hingoli) Jena, Shri Srikanta (Cuttack) Gupta, Shri Indrajit (Midnapore) Jeswani, Dr. K.D. (Kheda) H Jha, Shri Bhogendra (Madhubani) Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna (Jorhat) Jhikram, Shri Mohanlal (Mandla) Harchand Singh, Shri (Ropar) Joshi, Shri Anna (Pune) Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh (Rohtak) Joshi, Shri Dau Dayal (Kota) Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal (Murshidabad) K

Kahandole, Shri Z.M. (Malegam)

Imchalemba, Shri (Nagaland) Kairon, Shri Surinder Singh (Tarn Taran)

Inder Jit, Shri (Darjeeling) Kale, Shri Shankarrao D. (Kopergaon)

Islam, Shri Nurul (Dhubri) Kaliaperumal, Shri P.P. (cuddalore)

(iv) Kalka Das, Shri (Karolbagh) Khan, Shri Ghulam Mohammad (Moradabad) Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal (Basti) Khan, Shri Sukhendu (Vishnupur) Kamal Nath, Shri (Chhindwara) Khanduri, Maj. Gen. (Retd.) Bhuwan Chandra (Garhwal) Kamat, Shri Gurudas (Bombay North- East) Khanna, Shri Rajesh (New Delhi)

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Khanoria, Major D.D. (Kangra) (Osmanabad) Khursheed, Shri Salman (Farrukhabad) Kamson, Prof. M. (Outer Manipur) Koli, Shri Ganga Ram (Bayana) Kanaujia, Dr. G.L. (Kheri) Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna (Anakapalli) Kanithi, Dr. Viswanatham (Srikakulam) Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad (Jalaun)

Kanodia, Shri Mahesh (Paten) Kotla, Shri Jaya Surya Prakash (Kumool) Kanshi Ram, Shri (Etawah) Krishna Kumar, Shri S. (OuiJon) Kapse, Shri Ram (Thane) Krishnaswamy, Shri M. (Vandavasi) Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari (Bhadrachalam) Krishnendra Kaur (Deepa), Shrimati (Bharatpur) Kashwan, Shri Ram Si'lgh (Churu) Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji (Beed) Kasu, Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy (Narasaraopeta) Kudumula, Kumari Padamasree (Nellore)

Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal (Firozabad) Kuli, Shri Balin (Lakhimpur)

Katiyar, Shri Vinay (Faizabad) Kumar, Shri Nitish (Barh)

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila (Rae Bareli) Kumar, Shri V. Dhananjaya (Mangalore)

Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Kesri Lal, Shri (Ghatampur) (Salem)

Kewal Singh, Shri (Bhatinda) Kumarasamy, Shri P. (Paleni)

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher (Betul) Kunjee Lal, Shri (Sawai Madhopur)

(v) Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K. (Coimbatore) Mane, Shri Rajaram Shankarrao (Ichalkaranji) Kurein, Prof. P.J. (Mavelikara) Manjay Lal, Shri (Samastipur) Kusmaria, Dr. Ramkrishna (Damoh) Manphool Singh, Shri (Bikaner) L Marandi, Shri Krishna (Singhbhum) Lakshmanan, Prof. Savithri (Mukundapuram) Marandi, Shri Simon (Rajmahal) Laljan Basha, Shri S.M. (Guntur) Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. (Shillong) Lodha, Shri Guman Mal (Pali) Masood, Shri Rasheed (Saharanpur) Lovely Anand, Shrimati (Vaishali) Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. (ldukki) M Mathur, Shri Shiv Charan (Bhilwara) Made Gowda, Shri G. (Mandya) Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna (Chandauli) Madhukar, Shri Kamla Mishra (Motihari) Meena, Shri Bheru Lal (Salumbar) Mahajan, Shrimati Sumitra (Indore)

Meghe, Shri Datta (Nagpur) Mahato, Shri Bir Singh (Purulia)

Mahendra Kumari, Shrimati (Alwar) Mehta, Shri Bhubaneshwar Prasad (Hazaribagh) Mahto, Shri Rajkishore (Girdih) Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram (Nagaur) Mahto, Shri Shailendra (Jamshedpur) Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwc.s (Barmer) Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh (Sonepat) Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina (Padrauna) Malik, Shri Puma Chandra (Durgapur) Misra, Shri Janardan (Sitapur) Mallika~un, Shri (Mahbubnagar) Misra, Shri Satyagopal (Tamluk) Mallika~unaiah, Shri S. (Tumkur)

Misra, Shri Shyam Bihari (Bilhaur) Mallu, Dr. R. (Nagar Kumool)

Mandai, Shri Brahmanand (Monghyr) Mohan Singh, Shri (Ferozepur)

Mandai, Shri Sanat Kumar (Joynagar) Mollah, Shri Hannan (Uluberia)

Mandai, Shri Suraj (Godda) Mujahid, Shri B.M. (Dharwad South)

(vi) Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta (Panskura) Netam, Shri Arvind (Kanker)

Mukherjee, Shri Pramothes (Berhampore) Nikam, Shri Govindrao (Ratnagiri)

Mukherjee, Shri Subrata (Raiganj) Nyamagouda, Shri S.B. (Bagalkot)

Mukhopadyay, Shri Ajoy (Krishnagar) o

Munda, Shri Govinda Chandra (Keonjhar) Odeyar, Shri Channaiah (Davangere)

Munda, Shri Kariya (Khunti) Oraon, Shri Lalit (Lohardaga)

Muniyappa, Shri K.H. (Kolar) Owaisi, Shri Sultan Salah uddin () Muralee Dharan, Shri K. (Calicul) P Murmu, Shri Rup Chand (Jhargram) Padrna, Dr. (Shrimali) (Nagapattinam) Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekhara Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad (Calcutta North (Kanakapura) Wesl)

Murthy, Shri M.V.V.S. (Visakhapatnarn) Pal, Shri Rupchand (Hooghly)

Murugesan, Dr. N. (Karur) Palacholla, Shri V.R. Naidu (Khamrnam)

Mutternwar, Shri Vilas (Chirnur) Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan (Mandsaur)

N Pandian, Shri D. (Madras North)

Naik, Shri A. Venkatesh (Raichur) Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav (Deogarh)

Naik, Shri G. Devaraya (Kanara) Panja, Shri ! (Calcutta North-East)

Naik, Shri Ram (Bombay North) Panwar, Shri Harpal (Kairana)

Naikar, Shri D.K. (Dharwad North) Passi, Shri Balraj (Nainital)

Nandi, Shri Yellaiah (Siddipet) Paswan, Shri Chhedi (Sasaram)

Narayanan. Shri P.G. (Gobichettipalayam) Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas (Rosera)

Nawale, Shri Vidura Vilhoba (Khed) Paswan, Shri Sukdeo (Araria)

Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya (Phulbani) Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas (Mehsana)

Nayak, Shri Subash Chandra (Kalahandi) Patel, Shri Bheern Singh (Rewa) (vii) Patel, Shri Brishin (Siwan) Pawar, Dr. Vasan! Niwrutti (Nasik)

Patel, SI" i Chandresh (Jamnagar) Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal (Chidambaram)

Patel, Shri Haribhai (Porbandar) Pilot, Shri Rajesh (Dasua)

Patel, Shri Harilal Nanji (Kutch) Poosapati, Shri Anandgajapati Raju (Bobbili) Patel, Shri Praful (Bhandara) Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram (Chandrapur)

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan (Phulpur) Prabhu, Shri R. (Nilgiris)

Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar (Jabalpur) Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan (Panaji) Patel, Shri Somabhai (Surendranagar) Pradhani, Shri K. (Nowrangpur) Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harjibhai (Bulsar) Prakash, Shri Shashi (Chail) Pathak, Shri Harin () Pramanik, Prof. R.R. (Mathurapur) Pathak, Shri Surendra Pal (Shahabad) Prasad, Shri Hari Kewal (Salempur) Patidar, Shri Rameshwar (Khargone) Prasad, Shri V. Sreenivasa (Chamarajanagar) Patil, Shri Anwari Basavaraj (Koppal)

Prem, Shri B.L. Sharma (East Delhi) Patil, Shri Prakash V. (Sangli)

Premi, Shri Mangal Ram (Bijnor) Patil, Prof. (Shrimati) Pratibha Devisingh (Amravati) Purkayashta, Shri Kabindra (Silchar)

Patil, Shri Shivraj V. (Latur) R

Patil, Shrimali Surya Kania (Nanded) Rahi, Shri Ram Lal (Misrikh)

Patil, Shri Uttamrao Deorao (Yavatmal) Rai, Shri Kalp Nath (Ghosi)

Palil, Shri Vijay Naval (Erandol) Rai, Shri Lall Babu (Chhapra)

Patnaik, Shri Sivaji (Bhubaneswar) Rai, Shri M. Ramanna (Kasaragod)

Patra, Dr. Kartikeswar (Balasore) Rai, Shri Nawal Kishore· (Sitamarhi)

Pattanayak, Shri Sarat (Bolangir) Rai, Shri Ram Nihor (Robertsganj) (viii) Raj Narain, Shri (8asgaon) Rao, Shri D. Venkateswara (Bapatla)

Rajaravivanna, Shri B. (Pollachi) Rao, Shri J. Chokka (Karimnagar)

Raja, Shrimati Vasundhara (Jhalawar) Rao, Shri P.V. Narasimha (Nandyal)

Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Rao Ram Singh, Col. (Mahindergarh) (Chengalpattu) Rao, Shri V. Krishna (Chikballapur)

Rajesh Kumar, Shri (Gaya) Rath, Shri Rama Chandra (Aska)

Rajeshwaran, Dr. V. (Ramnathapuram) Rathva, Shri N.J. (Chhota Udaipur)

Rajeswari, Shrimati Basava (Bellary) Rawal, Dr. Lal Bahadur (Hathras)

Raju, Shri Bh. Vijayakumar (Narsapur) Rawale, Shri Mohan (Bombay-South Central) Rajulu, Dr. R.K.G. (Sivakasi) • Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar (Agra) Ram, Shri Prem Chand (Nawada) Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal (Banswara) Ram Awadh, Shri (Akbarpur) Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh (Ajmer) Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. (Madurai) Ray, Shri Rabi (Kendrapada) Ram Badan, Shri (Lalganj) Ray, Dr. Sudhir (Burdwan) Ram Singh, Shri (Haridwar) Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan (Serampore) Ramaiah, Shri Bolla Bulli (Eluru) Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. (Machilipatnam) Ramamurthy, ShTi K. (KTishnagiTi)

Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran (Adilabad) Ramasamy, Shri R. Naidu (Periyakulam) Reddy, Shri A. Venkata (Anantapur) Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally (Connanore) Reddy, Shri B.N. (Miryalguda)

Ramdew Ram, Shri (Palamau) Reddy, Shri G. Ganga (Nizamabad)

Ramsagar, Shri (Barabanki) Reddy, Shri M. Baga (Medak)

Rana, Shri Kashiram () Reddy, Shri M.G. (Chittoor) (ix) Reddy, Shri Magunta Subbarama Save, Shri Moreshwar (Arungabad) (Ongole) Sawant, Shri Sudhir (Rajapur) Reddy, Shri R. Surender (Warangal) Sayeed, Shri P.M. (Lakshadweep) Reddy, Shri Y.S. Rajasekhar (Cuddapah)

Scindia, Shri Madhavrao (Gwalior) Rongpi, Dr. Jayanta (Autonomous District)

Roshan Lal, Shri (Khurja) Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje (Guna)

Roy, Shri Haradhan (Asansol) Selja, Kumari (Sirsa)

Roypradhan, Shri Amar (Cooch Behar) Sethi, Shri Arjun Chatan (Bhadrak)

S Shah, Shri Manabendra (Tehri Garhwal)

Sadul, Shri Dharmanna Mondayya Shakya, Dr. Mahadeepak Singh (Etah) (Solapur)

Shankaranand, Shri B. (Chikkodi) Sahi, Shrimati Krishna (Begusarai)

Sai, Shri A. Prathap (Rajampet) Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal (Kamal)

Saikia, Shri Muhi Ram (Nowgong) Sharma, Shri Jeewan (Almora)

Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman (Ponnani) Sharma, Shri Rajendra Kumar (Rampur)

Sajjan Kumar, Shri (Outer Delhi) Sharma, Capt. Salish Kumar (Amelhi)

Sakshiji, Dr. (Mathura) Sharma, Shri V.N. (Hamirpur)

Saleem, Shri Mohammad Yunus (Katihar) Shastri, Acharya Vishwanalh Das (Sultanpur) Sanghani, Shri Dileep Bhai (Amreli)

Shastri, Shri Rajnath Sonkar (Saidpur) Sangma, Shri Pumo A. (Tura)

Sanipalli, Shri Gangadhara (Hindupur) Shastri, Shri Vishwanath (Gazipur)

Saraswati, Shri Yoganand (Bhind) Shelke, Shri Maruti Deoram (Ahmednagar) Sarode, Dr. Gunvant Rambhau (Jalgaon) Shingda, Shri D.B. (Dahanu) Satrucharla, Shri Vijayarama Raju (Parvathipuram) Shivappa, Shri K.G. (Shimoga) (x) Shukla, Shri Astbhuja Prasad (Khalidabad) Singh, Shri Rampa! (Domariaganj)

Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan (Raipur) Singh, Shri S.B. (Rajnandgaon)

Siddhartha, Shrimati O.K. Tharadevi Singh, Shri Satya Deo (Balrampur) (Chikmagalur) Singh, Shri Surya Narayan (Balia) Sidnal, Shri S.B. (Belgaum) Singh, Shri Uday Pratap (Mainpuri) Silvera, Dr. C. (Mizoram) Singh, Shri Vishwanath Pratap (Fatehpur)

Singh, Shri Abhay Pratap (Pratapgarh) Singh Deo, Shri K.P. (Dhenkanal)

Singh, Shri A~un (Satna) Singla, Shri Sant Ram (Patiala)

Singh, Shri Brijbhushan Sharan (Gonda) Siva raman, Shri S. (Ottapalam)

Singh, Dr. Chattrapal (Bulandshahr) Sodi, Shri Manku Ram (Bastar)

Singh, Shri Devi Bux (Unnao) Solanki, Shri Surajbhanu (Dhar)

Singh, Shri Hari Kishore (Sheohar) Soren, Shri Shibu (Dumka)

Singh, Shri Khelsai (Sarguja) Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. (Tiruchengode) Singh, Shri Lakshman (Rajgarh) Sreenivasan, Shri C. (Dindigul)

Singh, Shri Mohan (Deoria) Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan (Madras South) Singh, Shri Motilal (Sidhi) Subbarao, Shri Thota (Kakinada) Singh, Shri Pratap (Banka) Sukh Ram, Shri (Mandi) .Singh, Kumari Pushpa Devi (Raigarh) Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati (Gurdaspur) Singh, Shri Rajveer (Aonla) Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Dutt (Shimla) Singh, Shri Ram Prasad (Bikramganj) Sundararaj, Shri N. (Pudukkottai) Singh, Shri Ramashray Prasad (Jahanabad) Sur, Shri Monoranjan (Basirhat)

Singh, Shri Ramnaresh (Aurangabad) Suresh, Shri Kodikkunnil (Adoor) (xi) Swami, Shri Chinmayanand (Badaun) Topiwala, Shrimati Dipika H. (Baroda)

Swami, Shri Sureshanand (Jalesar) Topno, Kumari Frida (Sundargarh)

Swamy, Shri G. Venkat (Pedapalli) Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani (Kaiserganj) Syed Shahabuddin, Shri (Kishanganj) Tripathi, Shri Prakash Narain (Banda) T Tripathy, Shri Braja Kishore (Puri) Tandel, Shri D.J. (Daman & Diu) Trivedi, Shri Arvind (Sabrarkantha) Tara Singh, Shri (Kurukshetra) Tytler, Shri Jagdish (Delhi Satlar)

Tej Narayan Singh, Shri (Buxar) U

Thakore, Shri Gabhaji Mangaji Uma Bharti, Kumari (Khajuraho) (Kapadwanj) Umbrey, Shri Laeta (Arunachal East) Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh (Khandwa) Ummareddy Venkateswarlu, Prof. (Tenali)

Thangka Balu, Shri K.V. (Dhannapuri) Umrao Singh, Shri ()

Thite, Shri Bapusahib (Baramati) Unnikrishnan, Shri K.P. (Badagara)

Thomas, Prof. K.V. (Ernakulam) Upadhyay, Shri Swarup (Tejpur)

Thomas, Shri P .C. (Muvattupuzha) Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha (Mysore)

Thora!, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan V (Pandharpur) Vadde, Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao (Vijayawada) Thungon, Shri P.K. (Arunachal West) Vaghela, Shri Shankersinh (Godhra) Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee (Tindivanam) Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari (Lucknow)

Tiriya, Kumari Shushila (Mayurbhanj) Vandayar, Shri K. T. (Thanjavur)

Tirkey, Shri Pius (Alipurduars) Vanna, Shri Ratilal (Dhanduka)

Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand (Hapur) Vanna, Shri Sushil Chandra (Bhopal)

Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran (Barrackpore) Veerappa, Shri Ramchandra (Bidar)

Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb (Jain a) Vekaria, Shri Shivlal Nagjibhai (Rajkot) (xii) Verma, Shri Bhawani Lal (Janjgir) Yadav, Shri Chotey Singh (Kannauj)

Verma, Shri Phool Chand (Shajapur) Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad (Bhagalpur) Verma, Prof. Rita (Dhanbad) Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Verma, Shri Shiv Sharan (Machhlishahar) (Jhanjharpur)

Verma, Shri Upendra Nath (Chatra) Yadav, Shri Ram Kripal (Patna)

Verma, Kumari Vimla (Seoni) Yadav, Shri Ram Lakhan Singh (Arrah)

Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. (Palghat) Yadav, Shri Ram Saran (Khagaria)

Virendra Singh, Shri (Mirzapur) Yadav, Dr. S.P. (Sambhal)

Vyas, Dr. Girija (Udaipur) Yadav, Shri Satya Pal Singh (Shahjahanpur) W Yadav, Shri Sharad (Madhepura) Wasnik, Shri Mukul (Buldana) Yadav, Shri Surya Narayan (Saharasa) Williams, Maj. Gen. R.G. (Nominated Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar (Nalanda) Anglo-Indian) Yumnam, Shri Yaima Singh (Inner Y Manipur)

Yadav, Shri Arjun Singh (Jaunpur) Z

Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet (Azamgarh) Zainal Abedin, Shri (Jangipur) LOK SABHA

The Speaker

Shri Shivraj V. Patil The Deputy Speaker

Shri S. MaJlikarjunaiah

Panel of Chainnen

Shri Sharad Dighe

Shri Peter G. Marbaniang

Shri

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee

Shri Tara Singh

Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya

Shri Ram Naik

Shri P.C. Chacko

Shrimati Santosh Chowdhary

Prof. Rita Verma

Secretary-

Dr. R.C. Bhardwaj

(xv) GOVERNMENT OF

Members of the Cabinet

Prime Minister and also Incharge of the Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao MinisterieslOepartments of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions, Science and Technology, Ocean Development, Electronics, Atomic Energy, Space, Rural Development. Non-Conventional Energy Sources and Law, Justice & Company Affairs and the additional charge of the Ministry of Industry and other subjects not allocated to any other Cabinet Minister or Minister of State (Independent Charge)

Minister of Civil Supplies, Consumer Shri AK Antony Affairs & Public Distribution

Minister of Human Resource Development Shri A~un Singh

Minister of Health and Family WeHare Shri. B. Shankaranand

Minister of Agriculture Shii Balram Jakhar

Minister of Railways Shri C.K. Jaffer Sharief

Minister of Extemal Affairs Shri Dinesh Singh

Minister of Civil Aviation and Tourism Shri Ghulam Nabi Azad

Minister of Finance Shri

Minister of Power Shri N.K.P. Salve

Minister of Commerce Shri Pranab Mukhe~e

Minister of Home Affairs Shri S.B. Chavan

Minister of Urban Development Shrimati Sheila Kaul

Minister of WeHare Shri Sitaram Kesri

(xvii) Minister of Water Resources and Minister Shri Vidyacharan Shukla of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of Chemicals and Fertilizers Shri Ram Lakhan Singh Yadav

Ministers of State (Independent Charge)

Minister of State of the Ministry of Coal Shri Panja

Minister of State of the Ministry of Mines Shri Balram Singh Yadav

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri G. Venkat Swamy Textiles

Minister ot State of the Ministry of Shri Giridhar Gomango Plannmg and Programme Implementation

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Jagdish Tytler Surface Transport

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri K.P. Singh Deo Information and Broadcasting

Minister of State of the Ministry of Food Shri Kalp Nath Rai

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Kamal Nath Environment and Forests

Minister of State of the Ministry of Labour Shri P.A. Sangma

Minister of State of the Ministry of Capt. Satish Kumar Sharma Petroleum and Natural Gas

Minister of State of the Ministry of Steel Shri Santosh Mohan Dev

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Sukh Ram Communications

Minister of State of the Ministry of Food Shri Tarun Gogo; Processing Industries

Ministers of State

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri Arvind Netam Agriculture

(xviii) Minister of State in the Ministry of Human Shrimati Basva Rajeswari Resource Development (Department of Women and Child Development)

Minister of State in the Prime Minister's Shri Bhuvnesh Chaturvedi Office and Minister of State in the Department of Atomic Energy and Department of Space and Minister of State in the Ministry of Science and Technology

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri Eduardo Faleiro Chemicals and Fertilizers and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs and Minister of State in the Department of Electronics and Department of Ocean Development

Minister of State in the Ministry of Law, Shri H.R. Bhardwaj Justice and Company Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Welfare Shri K.V. Thangl

Minister of State in the Ministry of Civil Shri Kamaluddin Ahmed Supplies, Consumer Affairs and Public Distribution and Minister of State in the Ministry of Commerce

Minister of State in the Ministry of Industry Shrimati Krishna Sahi (Department of Industrial Development and Department of Heavy Industry)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Industry Shri M. Arunachalam (Department of Small Scale Industries and Agro and Rural Industries)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri M.V. Chandrashekhara Murthy Finance

Minister of State in the Ministry or Defence Shri Mallika~un and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shrimati Margaret Alva t'ersonnel, Public Grievances and Pensions and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs (xix) Minister of State in the Ministry of Human Shri Mukul Wasnik Resource Development (Department of Youth Affairs and Sports) and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Urban Shri P.K. Thungon Development and Minister of State in the Ministry of Water Resources

Minister of State in the Ministry of Home Shri P.M. Sayeed Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Power Shri P.V. Rangayya Naidu

Minister of State in the Ministry of Extemal Shri R.L. Bhatia Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Home Shri Rajesh Pilot Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Col. Rao Ram Singh Development (Department of Wasteland Development)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Shri Rameshwar Thakur Development (Department of Rural Development) and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Non- Shri S. Krishna Kumar Conventional Energy Sources and Minister of State in the Ministry of Agriculture

Ministry of State in the Ministry of Extemal Shri Salman Khursheed Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Civil Shrimati Sukhbuns Kaur Aviation and Tourism (Department of Tourism)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Shri Utlambhai Harjibhai Patel Development (Department of Rural Development)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Health Dr. C. Silvera and Family Welfare (xx) Deputy Ministers

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Health Shri Paban Singh Ghatowar and Family Welfare

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Home Shri Ram La) Rahi Affairs

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Human Kumari Selja Resource Development (Department of Education and Department of Culture)

(xxi) CONTENTS

[Tenth Series, Vol. XXXIi, Tenth Session 19941/916 (Saka)]

No.1, Monday, June, 13, 19941Jyaistha 23, 1916 (Saka)

COLUMNS

National Anthem - Played

Members Sworn

Obituary References 2-10

Hon. Speaker 2

Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao 4

Shri 5

Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vaddc 6

Shri Somnath Chatte~ee 7

Shri N.R. Kadambur ,Ianarthanan 8

Shri 8

Shri 9

Oral Answers to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 1 and 2 10-31

Written Answers to Questions:

Starred Questions Nos. 3 to 20 31-131

Unstarred Questions Nos. 1 to 94, 96 to 109, 111 to 129 and 131 to 138 131-369

Re: Adjournment Motions 369-375

Re: Exploitation/Killing of Harijans in 375-384 Phulbani, Orissa

• The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (i) (ii)

CoLUMNS

MemberSwom 3&4

Papers Laid on the Table 384-387

Standing Committee on Commerce 387-388

Seventh Report-Laid

Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill 388-392

As reported by the Joint Committee

Motion to withdraw

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 388

Shri Guman Mal Lodha 389

Shri Mohan Singh (Deoria) 390

Constitution (Seventy-First Amendment) Bill 392-423

As pssed by

Motion to withdraw

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 392

Shri Lal K. Advani 392

Shri Mohan Singh (Deoria) 396

Shri Somnath Chatte~ee 398

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 399

Shri 400

Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee 401

Shri Guman Mal Lodha 402

Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav 404

Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal 409

Shri Nitish Kum~r 410

Sh·n Ram Kapse 411 (iii)

CoLUMNS

Representation of the People (Second Amendment) Bill 423-425, 427-443

Motion to introduce

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 423

Shri Guman Mal Lodha 424

Shri ViQyacharan Shukla 425

Shri Lal K. Advani 428

Shri Mallika~un 431

Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal 433

Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vadde 437

Shri E. Ahmed 440

Announcement Re: Adjoumment Motion on Sugar Situation 426-427

Manipur Municipalities Bill 443-454

Motion to introduce

Shrimati Sheila Kaul 443

Shri Mohan Singh (Deona) 444

Shri Nitish Kumar 445

Shri Lal K. Advani 447

Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav 451

Shri S.B. Chavan 452

Explanatory Statement giving reasons for immediate Legislation by the Manipur Municipalities Ordinance

Punjab Municipal Corporation Law (Extension to Chandigarh) Bill 454---459

Motion to introduce

Shri S.B. Chavan 454

Shri Lal K. Advani 455 (iv)

COLUMNS

Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee 455

Dr. Laxminarayan Pandeya 455

Prof. Prem Dhumal 456

Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal 456

Shri Jagmeet Singh Brar 458

Explanatory Statement giving reasons for immediate Legislation by the Punjab Municipal Corporation Law (Extension to Chandigarh) Ordinance 459

New Delhi Municipal Council Bill 459-462

Motion to introduce

Shri S.B. Chavan 459

Shri B.L. Sharma 'Prem' 460

Shri Lal K. Advani 460

Shri Kalka Das 460

Explanatory Statement giving reasons for immediate Legislation by the New Delhi Municipal Council Ordinance 462

Matters Under Rule 377 462-465

(i) Need for central assistance to the State Government of Himachal Pradesh for providing relief to the farmers whose crops have been affected by hailstonns

Shri Krishan Dutt Sultanpuri 462

(ii) Need to fonnulate comprehensive scheme to provide better facilities to the patients suffering from mental disorders

Shri Bijoy Krishna Handique 463

(iii) Need for construction of an overbridge/sub-way on railway crossing at Ramghat Road in Aligarh, Uttar Pradesh

Shrimati Sheela Gautam 464 (v)

COLUMNS

(iv) Need to ensure early payment of dues to sugarcane growers particularly in Bareilly District, Uttar Pradesh

Shri Rajveer Singh 464

(v) Need to set up agriculture based small. scale industries and a heavy Industry at Chapra in Bihar

Shri Lall Babu Rai 465

Transplantation of Human Organs Bill

As passed by Rajya Sabha; and

As reported by the Select Committee

Motion to Consider

Dr. Laxminarayan Pandeya 468

Motion for Adjournment 478-579

Sugar Situation -Negatived

Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh 478

Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee 481

Shri Sharad Dighe 492

Shri 497

Shri Nirmal Kanti Chatterjee 506

Shri Prakash V. Patil 514

Shri P .G. Narayanan 517

Shri Surya Narayan Yadav 521

Shri Chandra Shekhar 524

Shri D. Venkateswara Rao 532

Shri Bhogendra Jha 534

Shri Shyam Bihari Misra 539

Shri Umrao Singh 546 (vi)

COLUMNS

Shri Mohan Singh (Dearia) 548

Dr. Vasant Niwrutti Pawar 552

Shri 5~5

Shri Kalp Nath Rai 557

Message from Rajya Sabha 579-582 LOK SABHA DEBATES

[Vol. XXXII, First day of the Tenth Session of the Tenth Lok Sabha No.1]

LOK SABHA {English]

11.10 hrs. Monday, June 13, 1994/ Jyaistha 23, 1916 (Saka) OBITUARY REFERENCES

MR. SPEAKER: Hon'ble Members, I have to inform the House with profound The Lok Sabha met at sorrow of the passing away of three of Eleven of the Clock. our former colleagues, namely, Shri K. Brahmananda Reddy, Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta and Shri S. Thangaraju. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chairj

Shri Brahmananda Reddy was a Member of Sixth and Seventh Lok Sabha NATIONAL ANTHEM during 1977-84 representing Nara- saraopet Parliamentary Constituency of The National Anthem was played . He was also a Member of Rajya Sabha during 1974-77.

An able administrator, Shri {English] Brahmananda Reddy served as Union Minister of Communications in 1974 and 11.02 hrs. also as Minister of Home Affairs during 1974-77. He also held the portfolios of MEMBERS SWORN Industry, Company Affairs, Agriculture and Irrigation in 1977. He was the Shri Kotla Jaya Surya Prakash Minister of Industry in 1979. Later, he Reddy (Kumool) also served as the Governor of . Shri Lakshman Singh (Rajgarh)

Shri Shelke Maruti Deoram Shri Reddy was a veteran freedqm (Ahmednagar) fighter. He served a jail term in 1941 and was also fined for his participation in the Shri 8apusaheb Thite (8aramati) freedom struggle. He was kept under detention during 1942-45 for his active Kumari Sushila Tiriya (Mayurbhanj) participation in the 'Quit India' Movement.

Shri Amar Pal Singh (Meerut) Shri Reddy was a Member of Madras and Andhra Pradesh Legislative Shri Pramothes Mukherjee Assemblies during 1946-71 except (8emampore) . between 1952-55. He served the State of Andhra Pradesh as a Minister from 3 Obituary References JUNE 13, 1994 Obituary References 4

1956 onwards holding various portfolios An agriculturist by profession, Shri and rose to become its Chief Minister in Thangaraju was a social and political 1964. From 1964 to 1971 , he ably served worker. He was also a Member of the as the Chief Minister of Andhra Prpdesh. Senate of Bharathidasan University of In 1972-73, he was the Chairman of Tamil Nadu. Sixth of the Government of India. Shri Thangaraju took keen interest in the proceedings of the House. A renowned parliamentarian, Shri RedJy made significant contributions Shri Thangaraju died in an accident to the proceedings of Lok Sabha. at Perambalur on 6 June, 1994 at the age of 45 years. Shri Brahmananda Reddy passed away on 20 May, 1994 at Hyderabad at We deeply mourn the loss of these the age of 85 years. friends and I am sure the House would join me in conveying our condolences to Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta was a the bereaved families Member of Fifth and Seventh Lok Sabha representing Kutch Parliamentary THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI P.V. Constituency of during 1971-77 NARASIMHA RAO): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it and 1980-84 respectively. He was also is with a deep feeling of grief and a Member of Rajya Sabha during bereavement that I rise today to pay 1960-66. homage to Shri . In his death the nation has lost Earfier he was a Member of Gujarat a great freedom fighter, eminent lawyer, Legislative Assembly from 1967 to 1971. veteran parliamentarian and an elder statesman. For me it is a personal loss. A physician by profession, Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta was a Member I had a long association with him, of Health Boards of the State of Bombay having been in his Cabinet for eight years in 1959 and of Gujarat in 1960. in Andhra Pradesh. I looked to him often for his sagacious advice. He was always An active social and political worker, there with his wise counsel, his steadfast he was involved in the youth movement. support and his warm affection.

As a Parliamentarian, Dr. Mehta Shri Kasu Brahmananda Reddy made valuable contributions to the held various public offices. He was a debates in the House. Minister in Andhra Pradesh and later Chief Minister. He became a Member of Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta passed the Rajya Sabha in 1974. He held away on 27 May, 1994 at Ahmedabad important portfolios at the centre - Home, at the age of 78 years. Agriculture, Irrigation, Communication, etc. In all these, he left the stamp of his Shri S. Thangaraju was a Member administrative acumen. He will always be of Eighth Lok Sabha. He represented remembered for the welfare schemes he Perambalur Parliamentary Constituency initiated as Chief Minister of Andhra ot Tamil Nadu during 1984-89. Pradesh. He was also an avid lover of 5 Obituary References JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Obituary References 6 books and took keen interest in sports to settle those problems with great and music. adeptness. He did full justice with every post he held and tried to eschew any Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta was an controvercy. It will be not an exaggeration, eminent parliamentarian, who took special if I say that he was a towering political interest and worked for the development personality from Andhra Pradesh. of his constituency, Kutch. He was a physician of repute and a respected Dr. Mahipatray Mehta was an social worker. extraordinary personality. He was not merely a politician. He was a doctor also, In the death of Shri S. Thangaraju, but in order to actively serve the people we have lost a young colleague who he contested elections and was elected represented Perambalur constituency in as a member. He had great concern for Tamil Nadu. He worked for the cause of the development of Kutch area. He was the downtrodden, especially for the welfare very much concerned about the problems of the Scheduled Castes. He will be of desert area of Kutch and used to remembered for his contribution to express his concern in a very effective education, as a senate Member of the manner in the House. Recently I had an Bharati Dasan University. opportunity to visit Kutch and it seems to me that Kutch has inmeasurable offer my condolences to the sufferings and there is no likelihood of families of these eminent Members, who their solution in near future. But whenever contributed so much to Parliament and Kutch is referred Shri Mahipatray Mehta to the country. May their souls rest in would ever be remembered. On behalf peace? of myself and my party also, I express my rich tributes to the third departed leader. [Translation]

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: [English] (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, with the deep feeling of grief and bereavment I SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA also associate myself with the fributes RAO VADDE (Vijayawada): Sir, I rise to paid by the leader of the House at the convey deep condolences on behalf of sad demise of Shri Brahmanand Reddy, our Telugu Desam Party on the death Dr. Mahipatray Mehta and Shri S. of Shri Kasu Brahmananda Reddy Garu, Thangaraju. I had the opportunity to who was a veteran politician, who held work with all the three departed leaders. different posts in the State Government Shri Brahmanand Reddy took part in as well as the Central Government. He freedom struggle, and after attaining was one of the few leaders from Andhra independence as an administrator he Pradesh who had left a deep mark on very efficiently and successfully accom- the minds of a very large number of plisned his administrative responsibilities people throughout the country. He was and proved his acumen for the same. I responsible for several development still remember that when he was the programmes that were implemented in Union Minister of Home Affairs many the State of Andhra Pradesh and the complex and difficult situations surfaced people will remember him for a long time before him but-·he· made all the efforts to come. I once again convey our deep 7 Obituary References JUNE 13, 1994 Obituary References 8 sympathies to the member of the SHRI M.R. KADAMBUR bereaved family. JANARTHANAN (Tirunnelveli): I join the hon. leaders in conveying the condolences of my Party on the sad demise of our SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE former colleagues. I must recall how our (Bolpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I associate old political mentor the late Shri Annadurai myself and my Party with the observations was closely associated with hon. Shri K. made by the hon. Leader of the House Brahmananda Reddy and I recall those and the Leader of the Opposition about days {Js a student in Tamil Nadu, of his the passing away of three of our activities in the Congress and his services distinguished previous colleagues. particularly in Shrimati 's period. HE" was very dominant and his Sir, I had the fortune of being role was commendable. known to them as a colleague in this House. Of course, I remember Shri Brahmananda Reddy very well, because I convey our condolences on the I was in the Consultative Committee of death of Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta. the Home Ministry when he was the Home Minister. A man of amiable disposition with an open mind, as a Our young party M.P., Shri S. Minister I have found him trying to Thangaraju was a devoted and dedicated respond to all the reasonable suggestions party worker and a Scheduled Caste made by Members and trying his best leader. He was very young. It is really to solve the people's problems and that a very big loss to the country and our is why he endeared himself to all in the Party. He was coming up very well and House and outside. set an example as a leader. I convey, on behalf of the AIADMK Party our condolences. Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta was also a distinguished Member of this House and his commitment towards alleviating SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA the sufferings of the common man was (Midnapore): On behalf of my Party I very obvious. We could understan,d, express our deep sorrow and grief at the appreciate and feel how he had been loss of these three cOlleagues. Shri K. trying to help the downtrodden people. Brahmananda Reddy, who was one of the outstanding personalities in the political Shri S. Thangaraju was also a life, firstly of his own State, where he was the Chief Minister for a long time, young Member. He was our colleague and the tragic circumstances in which he contributed much to the development of has passed away are extremely heart- Andhra Pradesh and later on here at Delhi actively as a Central Minister. I rending. remember him very well. He played a leading part in the deliberations of this We mourn the loss of all these House and in performing his Ministerial distinguished sons of India and I request duties. He was a very friendly and jovial you, Sir, kindly to convey our feelings of person here, very popular with all the deep sympathy and condolences to the other Members, irrespective of the Party members of the bereaved families. they belonged to. 9 Obituary References JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 I did not know Dr. Mahipatray M. [English] Mehta personally very well. But I remember that as a Member, he was MR. SPEAKER: The House may f'onstimtly expressing his concem for the now stand in silence for a short while as plight of poorer people in this country a mark of respect to' the deceased. who are not atie to avail themselves of sufficient medical ::are. 11.28 hrs.

The Members then stood in silence Mr. Thangaraju died under very for a short while. tragic circumstances which make his demise all the more poignant. I am very much aggrieved the way that he lost his life. 11.30 hrs.

I do hope that on behalf of our ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS party, our condolences will also be conveyed to all the m~mbers of the families of the deceased. [Translation]

Prime Minister's Visit to USA [Translation] + *1. SHRI PHOOL CHAND SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN VERMA: (Rosera): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I myself and SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR my party associate with the condolences RAWAT: expressed by the hon. Prime Minister, the leader of the Opposition and the Will the Minister of EXTERNAL leaders of other parties. On some AFFAIRS be pleased to state: occassions I had an opportunity to talk with Late Brahmanand Reddiji. He was (a) whether the Prime Minister and known as a man of moderate nature and his team visited USA recently; a clear headed statesman. Today, he is no more with us. However, we all have (b) if so, the aims and objectives to leave this world sooner or later. On behind the visit and the details of the behalf of this august House we all offer issues discussed with the President of our condolences to the bereaved family. USA and other US leaders/bodies; and

(c) the outcome of the discussions Dr. Mahipatray M. Mehta is no held there alongwith the details of the more today and on behalf of our party agreements/MOUs signed with the W3 offer our cOr'ldolences and express Govemment of USA during his visit? our deep feelings of sorrow on his sad demise. I had an opportunity Ie (alk with Shri S. Thangaraju. He had great respect [English] for the poor. On behalf of my party and myself I express deep condolences to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ThE the bareaved family. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 11 Oral Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Oral Answers 12

(SHRI R.l. BHATIA): (a) to (c). A 3. President Clinton and PM Statement is laid on the Table of the discussed a wide range of global issues House. of common concem, including those relating to national security, apart from STATEMENT bilateral relations. These discussions were extremely cordial, candid and useful. President Clinton's Administration and Prime Minister visited USA from the US corporate world demonstrated May 14-20, 1994. His itinerary included great support and optimism about India's New York, Houston, Boston and economic reforms and the new avenues Washington., At New York and Houston, this had opened up to intensify and PM met a wide cross-section of US broaden our bilateral cooperation, business leaders and the Indian-American particularly in the area of trade and community who were enthusiastic about investment. Concrete steps, including participating in India's economic growth. exchange of several Cabinet-level visits At Boston, he delivered the Jodidl were identified. Memorial Lecture where he explained India's developmental objectives. PM 4. Discussions also took place on addressed a Joint Meeting of the US the contentious issues of nuclear and Congress at Washington, met leading missile proliferation, on which the positions American business leaders and of the two countries are widely divergent. academics, and also interacted with The two leaders agreed that India and Congressional leaders. Vice-President AI the US would intensify their cooperation Gore hosted a lunch for PM and his to achieve a global and non-discriminatory delegation. This was followed by Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and a discussions with President Clinton. There verifiable ban on the production of fissile was a delegation level meeting with tne material for nuclear weapons. Support for principal advisers, followed by a private non-proliferation and progressive reduction talk. Subsequently, President Clinton of weapons of mass destruction, with the hosted a working lunch with broader goal of their elimination, was identified as participation. After the meeting, President a priority area. The US proposal to Clinton and PM addressed a Joint Press continue the bilateral dialogue on security Conference and a Joint Statement was issues was accepted. issued. The Acting Secretary of State, the US Defence Secretary and Commerce Secretary called on PM individually for 5. PM took the opportunity to brief discussions. President Clinton on Indian concorns regarding cross-border support to terrorism in India and particularly in 2. The aim of Prime Minister's visit Jammu & Kashmir. President Clinton to the US was to establish personal shared the concern on this issue and contact with President Clinton and to lay agreed that all outstanding issues between the basis for durable improvement in India and Pakistan must be resolved Indo-US relations by setting aside the through bilateral negotiations, as distortions in bilateral relations introduced envisaged in the Simla Agreement. by the Cold War and taking advantage of Ute new opportunities for expanded trade and investment created by India's 6. Two MOUs were signed during economic teforms. PM's visit, one on Cooperative Measures 1 3 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Ora/ Answers 14

10 Increase Awareness and Support for understanding for India's position on Efforts to Combat Production, Distribution issues of national interest. Trade and and Use of Illegal drugs; and MOU on economic cooperation between India and Planning, Conservation and Manqgement the US is expected to receive further fillip of Natural and Cultural Heritage Sites, as a result of the visit. Negotiations have also advanced on an umbrella Science and Technology [Translation] Agreement, an agreement on cooperation in renewable energy sources and an SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: extradition treaty. A bilateral investment Prior to the Prime Minister's visit to protection agreement is being explored. America, India and America had serious differences regarding human rights 7. The Joint Statement contains situation in Kashmir and Nuclear non- both the expression of the common proliferation. The President of America desire of India and the US to work Shri Bill Clinton has also admitted it in together in areas where our interests a Press Conference. I would like to ask coverge, as well as indication of the as to whether the differences have been extent of common ground on matters on removed after the Prime Minister's visit which the two countries have different to America and whether any change has perceptions. Both sides agreed to ensure been noticed in the attitude of U.S.A. that existing differences did not overshadow the potential for greater SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: This cooperaticln, especially in the trade and question is related to the han. Prime economic fields. The Joint Statement Minister and he has left the House. called for a new partnership between (Interruptions) India and the US. The two leaders promised to cooperate in the search for SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: solutions to global challenges posed by The Prime Minister has retumed from his weapons of mass destruction. AIDS, visit to America. He was present in the environmental degradation, population House just now. A question relating to growth, poverty, intemational terrorism him has been raised here. He should and narcotics trafficking. Agreement was have responded to the question. But the also reached to expand the pace and hon. State Minister is replying here. We scope of high level exchanges on the full can settle this issue to some extent with range of political, economic, commercial, his reply also provided that it is at all a scientific, technological and social issues. solution. But the hon. Prime Minister who The two leaders agreed to seek ways to is the leader of Home also, has left the expand their cooperation at the UN. House abruptly. It is not in consistent with the decorum of the House. 8. The objective of Prime Minister's visit to the US was to generate goodwill SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: It is and have a free and frank exchange of against the dignity of this august House. views with President Clinton and his Administration officials, Congressional {Eng/ish] leaders and leading American businessmen. PM's visit opened fresh SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA possibilities for achieving greater RAO VADDE: Sir, this shows scant 15 Oral Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Oral Answers 16 respect of the Prime Minister to this MR. SPEAKER: Please take your House and we take serious objection to seal. this.

[Translation] (Translation]

SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: If SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Mr. Speaker, the hon. Prime Minister does not attend Sir, during the Prime Ministar's visit to the House and does not respond to my America, Pakistan and Pakistan question. I would not like to ask this sponsored terrorism in Kashmir was question. He should have been present discussed. The American people were here. (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, it told in cle3.r words that Pakistan is is a very important question and the interfering in the internal matters of India Prime Minister has lett the House. I seek and giving full assistance to the terrorists. your protection. He has shown disrespect to the House by leaving the House [English] abruptly. Does the decorum of this august House has no importance at all? Through you, I would like to submit that the Prime They are sponsoring terrorism in Kashmir. Minister should be present here in person and express his regret. He should be [Translation] present here till the discussion on this issue continues. (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, the han. Prime Minister The President Clinton had replied that must be present here. I seek your India and Pakistan should settle their protection. Han. Prime Minister has lett bilateral issues under the Shimla this House which is against the decorum Agreement. of this august House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I, therefore, request you to give your SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: ruling. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank the han. Prime Minister for coming back SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Mr. Speaker, to the House and showing respect to the Sir, did he seek your permission before feelings of the members. leaving the House? Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Prime Minister [English] was on his visit to America from 14th May and he had the discussion there on MR. SPEAKER: I do not know several issues, but I would like to know where the Prime Minister is expected to from the hon. Minister of External Affai!s go, may be in the other House or may as to whether the Prime Minister also not be. But I think the Parliamentary held discussion regarding first Affairs Minister would see that, if it is consignment of Thirty eight F-16 fighter possible, he may come back to the planes to Pakistan by America and House. The Minister may reply now. succeeded in convincing American Presitlent that if these F-16 Fighter Planes SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Sir, till that are given to Pakistan then the peace time we can take up Question No.2. cannot be restored in this region? Further 17 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 the House wants to know whether America has been made for providing medical has cancelled the proposal of giving facilities there. F-16 fighter planes to Pakistan. Please clarify the position in this regard. {English]

SHRI R.L. BHATIA: During his MR. SPEAKER: The Minister may dialogue with Shri Clinton, hon. Prime reply to the question keeping in view that Minister emphasized on the point that the hon. Member comes from Agra. supply of F-16 aircraft to Pakistan will create tension, imbalance of power and accelerate the pace of the arms race in {Translation] the region. Therefore, he emphasized to cancell the supply of F-16 to Pakistan. SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have signed two MOU with them. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR The first agreement is aimed at RAWAT: Sir, I would like to ask a combatting production, distribution and question regarding Prime Minister's use of illegal drugs and second is on dialogue in USA. At press conference of conservation and management of beautiful Shri Clinton and the Prime Minister, when natural resorts and cultural heritage sites. journalists asked about human rights Apart from these, four agreements are violation in Kashmir, his simple answer in the process which have been discussed 'No' has disappointed the people of the earlier. It has been decided that foreign country. It was an opportunity when he office of both the countries will convene would have expounded as to how terrorists meetings regularly, secondly the meeting are slaying the innocent people in of Joint Commission should be convened. Kashmir. I would like to know about the Thirdly, the agreement signed in 1984 Memoranda of Understanding signed regarding Science and Technology should there. You have told about the subjects be extended and more agreements should discussed there but you have not told be signed in defence sector at services about the Memoranda of Understanding level. Apart from it, an agreement signed between the two countries to regarding the intellectual group of non- check the production, distribution and governmental level is also going to take use of illegal drugs and the secondly place in which discussion will be held to regarding the conservation maintenance, stregthen the bilateral relation. protection and management of natural and cultural heritage sites. I have read {English] in that the Prime Minister has signed some agreement making Taj Mahal the' nucleus of his agreement. I SHRI PRITHVIRAJ D. CHAVAN: would like to get details regarding those Mr. Speaker, I congratulate the han. Memoranda of Understanding and by Prime Minister on his highly successful when these will take place. Tourists visit Uni!ed States visit under very difficult Taj Mahal every year in a large number circumstances. and some of them die for want of medical treatment. Two persons died during the I would like to ask whether the last week. I would like to know as to what Government of United States have given arrangemenf has been made for financial up or not given up their insistance on resources and whether any arrangement five-nation regional non-proliferation 19 Oral Answers JUNE 13; 1994 Oral Answers 20 conference, consisting of India, China, problem and no other person or country Pakistan, U.S.A. and Russia. has a right to interfere. I would like to know whether the Prime Minister said SHRI R.L. BHATIA: The Prime something on it as has been published Minister during his discussion has in various newspapers. emphasised India's point of view that we believe in the comprehensive global [English] verifiable and non-discriminatory nature of treaty. With regard to this, although MR. SPEAKER: You have to come the American point of view is there, we to the question. You have taken so much have a divergent view with the U.S.A. time without asking the question.

They want to have bilateral, regional [ Translation] or multilateral tracks to reach the end, that is, the global treaty. But India's point SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: Sir, of view is very clear that we want a I would like to know why only our country global, comprehensive and non- is blamed for human rights violation? discriminatory nature of this treaty. Why efforts are being made to put our country in ignomity. I would like to know [ Translation] as to whether the Prime Minister emphasised on this point in his parleys SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: Mr. with Shri Clinton during his US visit. You Speaker, Sir, I thank and congratulate please tell me your opinion in this regard. the hon. Prime Minister on his successful U.S. visit. There would have been some [English] more achievements if like Geneva visit

leader of the opposition party would have SHRI R.L. BHATIA: J want to assure gone with him. I do not know as to why the hon. Member that this was a very he disappointed the leader of opposition high-level discussion between our Prime at this Juncture. Minister and Mr. Clinton. Our Prime Minister emphasised fully on this point would like to know from. my and explained to Mr. Clinton India's point learned friend Shri Bhatia that why our of view that India is a big democracy, Government becomes dumb on the it is a free society; we have an question regarding violation of human independent judiciary; we have an rights in Kashmir during the US visit. independent. Press and we have a Whether it is due to lack of coordination Consititution in which rights of all the or hurdles and confusion prevailing in the people are enshrined and so there is no Home Ministry or the Government of question of the human rights violation in India is being arm twisted by some India. India is second to none in this foreign powers. Whenever someone refers regard. The Prime Minister also to Kashmir it seems that we are guilty emphasised that this is a question, which, of violating human rights and they are if it is referred to Kashmir, then it is a meant to preach us on this issue. I would question related to the sponsoring of . like to know as to whether the Ministry terrorism by Pakistan. So, the question of External Affairs have adopted anytime of human rights violation in India does such an attitude as this is our own not arise. It was explained to the President 21 Oral Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

and the President offered that they will to know whether, during the Prime continue this discussion. Minister's visit when he had a talk with President Clinton, President Clinton raised SHRI MRUTYUNJA YA NAY.,II,K: Sir, the issue of capping of our missiles time and again in this House. I have research and development which was a raised a persistent demand for taking major issue during the talk. India as a permanent member of the Security Council of the United Nations. Secondly, I would like to know In this regard. I would like to say that whether President Clinton was able to the Prime Minister is not only the leader appreciate India's pOint of view on Human of our country but also one of the leaders Rights and also India's point of view on of NAM. India happens to be the chief Jammu and Kashmir and the issue of architect of NAM and the Third World, terrorism. But besides that, the Prime I would like to know whether the Prime Minister also had several other meetings Minister has interacted with the Clintion with intellectuals and Industrialists. I would Adminsitration and what is the outcome like to know whether the Prime Minister of that interaction. was convinced that he has been able to project India's point of view and whether MR. SPEAKER: It is on inclusion he is hopeful that there is a possibility of India in the Security Coucil. I complete of development of relationship with the that. United States of America.

SHRI R.L. BHATIA: There was a THE PRIME MINISTER SHRI P.V. general discussion with regard to NARASIMHA RAO: The answer to the restructuring of the United Nations first part of the question is 'No'. The because when the United Nations was question of capping was not raised by formulated, there were only 54 members. President Clinton. To the second part of Now there are more than 184 members. the question, I can only say that I have We have emphasised that the U.N. must done my best. be democratised, restructured so that aU the regions get the benefit and its mandate can only be carried to all the DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: Sir, I regions if it is more democratised. congratulate the hon. Prime Minister for his successful visit to the United States SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: of America. There were apprehensions in Sir, in view of the prevailing intemational the minds of the Leaders of different situation and also in view of our bilateral political parties that there will be capping relationship with the United States of of U.S.A. Government over the use and America, the Prime Minister's visit no experiment of Prithvi and Agni warhead doubt was a very important visit, as missiles in India. But after the return of reported in the Press. We have only hon. Prime Minister, the Prithvi was. Press as a source to know that many successfully launched and included in the important issues were discussed. Before Defence. I would like to know whether Prime Minister's visit to the United States there was any discussion regarding of America, there were also preparatory capping of warhead missiles of India or meetings so that some concrete results there was any pressure not to go ahead from that visit could be had. I would like with the experiment of such missiles. 23 Oral Answars JUNE 13, 1994 Oral Answers 24

MR. SPEAKER: think the facts (c) the estimated expenditure to be speak for themselves. incurred thereon?

SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTA- (English] CHARYA: Sir, in paragraph three of the answer it has been said that the talks THE MINISTER OF STATE OF included discussions on bileteral THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS cooperation in the area of trade and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c) A Statement development. Now. we know that a is placed on the Table of the House. couple of months back, the United States had brought down the threat of certain STATEMENT retaliatory measures against India like Special 301. I would like to know whether Following are the places in the this came up in the course of discussion country where electronic telephone and since we have been given temporary exchanges with ten thousand lines reprieve upto the month of June, whether are proposed to be set up during in the course of discussion under the 1994-95: present professions of multilateralism there were efforts on our part to persuade 1. Tamilnadu the United States to eliaminate these retaliatory meaures from their statue Madras 1,00,000 lines book. Maduari 10,000 lines

Trichy 10,000 lines SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: The questions are discussed at other levels. Salem 10,000 lines As a matter of fact, such questions did COlmbatore 20,000 lines not come between us. We were talking about something, a little more than 2. Kerala specifics. Specific questions are taken up Emakulam 20,000 lines at the official level. Calicut 10,000 line~ [ Translation] Trivandrum 10,000 lines 3. Karnataka Electronic Telephone Exchanges Bangalore 90,000 lines *2. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Mysore 10,000 lines Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 4. Andhra Pradesh pleased to state: Hyderabad 60,000 lines

(a) the places in the country where Vijayawada 10,000 lines electronic telephone exchanges with ten • thousand lines are proposed to be set Vishakhapatnam 10,000 lines up, State-wise; 5. Bihar

Patna 10,000 lines (b) the time by which these are likely to be commissioned; and Ranchi 10,000 lines 25 Oral Answel5 JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answel5 26 6. Gujarat 13. West Bengal

Ahmedabad 60,000 lines Calcutta 50,000 lines

Surat ~o,OOO lines 14. Delhi State

Vadodara 30,000 lines Delhi 4,02,000 lines Rajkot 10,000 lines

7. Haryana The estimated expenditure to commission above lines will be about Faridabad 10,000 lines Rs. 4532.50 crores. 8. Maharashtra [ Translation] Bombay 4.53.000 lines Nagpur 20,000 lines SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Mr. Speaker, Sir; the reply reveals that electronic Pune 30,000 lines telephone exchanges with ten thousand Nasik 10,000 lines lines are only a few in the country. Whether the hon. Minister would like to 9 Madhya Pradesh tell the objectives behind installation of indore 20,;;O(! lines s:e::tronic telephone exchanges in meiropolises of every State and how 10,000 Bhopal lines much amount will be allocated for this Indore 10,000 lines purpose? 10. Punjab SHRI SUKH RAM: Mr. Speaker, Amritsar 20,000 lines Sir, I would like to say that six new technological system for large scale digital Jallandhar 20,000 lines exchanges have been introduced in the Chandigarh 45,000 lines country. Now new telephone exchanges with this technology will be installed in Ludhiana 50,000 lines major cities, which have a population of Patiala . 10,000 line!l five lakh and more. For the paucity of funds we are not able to set up telephone 11 . Rajasthan exchanges according to the demand. But Jaipur 63,000 lines as mentioned in the list attached, we are going to provide 18.13 lakh telephone Jodhpur 10,000 lines lines in the metropolitan cities during the Kota 10,000 lines current year.

Udaipur 10,000 lines SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Mr. Speaker, 12. Uttar Pradesh Sir, the waiting list for installation of OYT and non-OYT telephones have increased Ghaziabad 10,000 lines enormously in big cities throughout the Allahabad 10,000 lines country. In the meeting of State level advisory committee it was told that only 10,000 lines Lucknow in four big cities of Gujarat, telephone Meerut 10,000 lines , exchanges with ten thousand lines have 27 Oral AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Oral AnswelS 28 been set up, but I would like to say that given 50000 lines from this exchange. number of people in the waiting list in Now just imagine, in Tamil Nadu, the other cities has increased. In view of this, number of lines given is one lakh, in I would like to know from the hon. Kamataka, it is 90000; in Hyderabad it Minister whether the Government is 60000, in Gujarat it is 60000 ... proposes to set up more telephone (Interruptions) . exchanges with ten thousand lines in other cities of Gujarat also. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE: I am reading it from the SHRI SUKH RAM: Mr. Speaker, reply. Sir, in my opinion Gujarat has been given more funds than any other State. But MR. SPEAKER: You do not have alongwith that I admit that we have to to. You ask the question. provide 25 lakh telephone lines more to exhaust the waiting list. A major portion SHRI NIRMAL KANTI of the demand will be fulfilled during the CHATIERJEE: Everywhere else it is current year, if required funds are made much more than 50000. I have available. According to our new national appreciated his conistancy in this. Now policy we have to liquidate the waiting my question is: Would you please explain list upto 1997, by the end of the Eighth why are you so consistent about Calcutta, Five Year Plan. West Bengal?

[English] SHRI SOMMATH CHATIERJEE: What are the guidelines? SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE: I appreciate the Minister SHRI NIRMAL KANTI for his very consistent approach with CHATIERJEE: What are your guidelines regard to West Bengal. As we have in allotting them? drawn his attention to, there has not been a directory for several years, for SHRI SUKH RAM: We have to four to five years. And because there is earn revenue also. Whether revenue we no directory, the additional telephone earn, we invest that in installing the lines. connections are meaningless, nobody The States which give us the highest can have them. Therefore, from the revenue are attracting our attention. information given, just to show how consist ant it is, I say that there are only It is just to increase our revenue two States where only at one place, this and to invest it elsewhere also. telephone exchange is provided, that is, at Calcutta in West Bengal and in Haryana. And in every other State like SHRI NIRMAL KANTI Gujarat, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, CHATIERJEE: Are you sure about your Kamataka, Kerala, Tamil Nadu etc., there argument? are so many places where these are being offered to. In West Bengal, let me SHRI SUKH RAM: Please listen to inform him. there are five municipal me. I assure the hon. Member that I corporations. This is one aspect of have taken certain initiatives to raise consistency. Secondly, Calcutta has been funds and if I succeed in raising the 29 Oral Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30 funds, I would be able to purchase the village or district but Bengal, Bihar and equipments on a lease basis. In Calcutta Orissa are deprived of this facility. I the waiting list is very small. And in case would like to know about your action plan I succeed to raising the funds for and the measures to be taken for purchasing the equipment on a lease improving the functioning and number of basis certainly your waiting list is likely telephone exchanges in the country. to be liquidated either during the current financial year or during the next year. I SHRI SUKH RAM: Mr. Speaker, feel we need not wait even upto 1997. Sir, in respect of electronic telephone But now my problem is that there are exchanges, I would like to say that ·we some financial constraints. have 70 per cent electronic exchanges and 30 per cent non-electronic. We are As regards the telephone directory. trying our best to replace these but we admit that there has been abnormal are unable to do that for lack of funds. delay and you know the circumstances We will replace the non-electronic under which it was delayed. But now I telephone exchanges within the next two have taken steps and sanctioned about years. In respect of Calcutta, I would like Rs. 5.05 crore simply to publish the to say that there may be some complaints. Calcutta telephone directory. I think We are receiving complaints from the tenders have been invited and as soon places where expansion work is going as it is finalised, out of our own revenue, on. People in Calcutta, who telephone to the directories are going to be supplied every part of the world from Calcutta will to the subscribers of Calcutta. not make any complaint. The sufferers will definitely make complaints and it is SHRI NIRMAL KANTI also correct on their part. In a network CHATTERJEE: But why should financial of 85 lakh telephone lines, complaints are constraints affect West Bengal in this found to be there and they will also be manner? You should explain that. raised in the House, and can be published by the Press as well. I appreciate it. SHRI SUKH RAM: There is no Telephone Exchange of Calcutta is quite discrimination. old and complaints are being received from there. We are trying to replace these. In respect of developmental work [ Trans/ation) I would like to say that politics does influence it. Whether it is Calcutta or any kUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: Mr. other place, facilities and funds will be Speaker, Sir, at present, telephone sector provided for each and every part of the is worse affected in the country. People, country. who havE: got the telephone connections as well as who have not yet got telephone connections are facing problems. I would [English] like to know as to whether the Minister is aware of the discrimination being done SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: against the MPs in this regard ... We do not grudge any State getting (Interruptions)... had facilities for modern telephone introduced electronic telephone exchanges connections. But the question is that the in the country. Today, we have electronic resource 0\ this country has to be utilised telephone exchanges somewhere in every in a balanced manner, so that there is 31 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 32 a balanced development of this country. (a) whether the Government have In Eastern India I find for Orissa there framed new guidelines about the private is zero; for Bihar only twenty thousand; sector investment in telecom sector; for a city like Calcutta only fifty th.ousand; when there is over four lakh fifty three (b) if so, the details threrof alongwith thousand for Bombay alone. They have names of the companies who have given five lakh thirteen thousand for entered so far in telecom sector; Maharashtra. I do not grudge your State. You may have ten lakhs, we do not mind. (c) the pattem of equity partiCipation But is this the way you are going to by foreign and multinational companies distribute the resources? The hon. in the new telecom policy; Member from South Calcutta was absolutely right. It explains under what (d) the steps taken 10 safeguard circumstances we are working. Let him the interest of the Indian lelecom industry answer this point. (Interruptions). in the new policy?

SHRI SUKH RAM: Let me clarify THE MINISTER OF STATE OF one thing. These are the large digital THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS switching systems. There are about seven (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Government of lakh fifty thousand E 10 B lines which India had announced a New Industrial we have to instal in addition to these Policy in July 1991 in which private 18.20 lakh lines. Then aprt from that, sector was permitted to invest in there are CDot technology small and production of all types of medium exchanges also. Those lines telecommunication equipment. Private also will be installed. E 10 B are also sector investment has also been allowed of ten thousand lines. Where there is a in the value added telecom services for shortfall, they will get compensated in which detailed guidelines have already this. been framed. Private sector investment of basic telecom services has also been permitted under the National Telecom Policy 1934 for which guidelines have not WRIDEN ANSWERS TO been finalised. QUESTIONS (b) A large number of Indian [Translation] companies have entered in telecom production sector under the new industrial policy. No Industrial License is issued by Private Sector Investment in the Govemment for manufacture of any Telecom type of Telecom equipment. Governmerit has received 278 information Memoranda *3 SHRIMATI SAROJ from August, 1991 to March 94 with total DUBEY: proposed investment of Rs. 1494 crores SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR for setting up or expansion of production GANGWAR: units in the Telecom sector as per Statement I. In the area of value added Will the Minister of services, 46 companies have been given COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: letters of intent as per Statement II. 33 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

(c) The question of equity (d) One of the objectives of the participation by foreign and multinational National Telecom Policy 1994 is to ensure companies will be decided and approved that India emerges as a major by the Government along with other manufacturing base and major exporter guidelines for implemenation of the of Telecom equipment. National Telecom Policy recently announced by the Government.

STATEMENT-I

List of IEM's Received from the industry during the period August 1991 to March 1994 for Investment in the Telecom Sector

(Rs. in lakhs)

SI. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

1. Indchem Communication Ltd. RAX 0

2. Teledata Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Subscriber Loop Carrier Systems 7100

3. Larsen & Tubro Ltd. Telephonic or Telegraphic Switch 198

4. Indian Reprographic System (P) Ltd. Electronic Digital Switching EQU 600

5. Siemens Ltd. Electrical Apparatus for Line TE 0

6. Siemens Ltd. Electrical Apparatus for Line TE 0

7. National Telecom. India Ltd. Digital Switching Systems 2180

8. Indchem Electronics Ltd. Electrical Apparatus for Line TEL 178

9. Ericsson India Ltd. Switching App. incl. Accessories 2450

10. United Telecoms Lid. Main AutomatiC Exchanges 512 Por 0

11. United Telecoms Ltd. Max upto 10,000 lines 0

12. Radiant Telesystems Ltd. Switching Systems 183 35 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written AnswelS 36

Sl. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

13. Amber Enterprises India Pvt. Ltd. Cabinetary Components for Elec. 154

14. Eider Telecom Ltd. Wireless Pub. Add System 369

15. Kanazia Digital Systems Pvt. Ltd. EPAX, EPABX & Other Digital HYB. 6964

16. Punjab Communications Ltd. Max Large 2K to 10k 465

17. Straw Products Ltd. Electronic Switching Equipment o

18. Straw Products Ltd. Electronic Switching Equipment o

19. J.K. Teletronix Ltd. Electronic Switching Equipment o

20. Uptron India Ltd. Transmission Apparatus 331

21. Crompton Greaves Ltd. Telephone Switching Apparatus 850

22. Sanchar Antenas & Communication SY Transmission Apparatus incorporating 80

23. Siemens Ltd. Transmission Apparatus for Line o

24. ELectronics Corporation of India Ltd. Main Automatic Exchange 89

25. A.1. Communications Ltd. Digital Switching Equipment o

26. A.1. Communications Ltd. Digital Electronic Exchanges 2590

27. Semiconductor Complex Ltd. Telephone Exchanges & Switching 165

28. Northern Digital Exchanges Ltd. Electronic Telephone Instruments 65

29. AT&T Digital Electronic Switching Equ. 4250

30. WS Telesystems Electronic Switching Equipment 282

31. Intercity Cable System (P) Ltd. Electronic PABX o

32. Straw Products Limited EPABX o 37 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

SI. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

33. J.K. Teletronix Ltd. EPABX 0

34. National Telecom India Ltd. EPABX 0

35. National Radio & Electronics Co. Ltd. EPABXlRAXl0128/512 P upto 2000 L 792

36. National Radio & Electronics Co. Ltd. EPSAXIRAX 0128, 0526, 0512 P, Max L 244

37. United Telecoms LId. RAX 128 port 256 ports 0

38. Rising Sun Engineers Ltd. 128 port RAX 132

39. Escorts Ltd. (Telecommunication) RAX 128 Port 103

40. Priraraj Electronics Pvt. Ltd 128/256 Port RAX Mini Integrated 0

41. Instrumentation Ltd., Rural Automatic Exchanges 128/25 220

42. Hartron Communications Ltd. 512 P SSM RAX 199

43. Kerala State Electronics 512 port SSM RAX 222 Dev. Corporation Ltd.

44. Siemens Ltd. EPABX-EPAX-INTERCOM and Key Tele 80

45. Deltel Systems Pv1. Ltd. EPABX and Key Telephones 160

46. Telesystems EPABXlEPAX 10

47. Novel Electronics & Communications EPASX-EPAX INTERCOM 814

48. Siemens Ltd. EPABX-EPAX-INTERCOM and Key Tele 0

49. Novel Electronics & Communications EPASXlEPAXlINTERCOM 0

50. Tele System EPABX and Key Telephones 0

51. Salora International EPASX Systems 0

52. United Telecomes Ltd. EPASX of 640 ports 128 ports & 256 199 39 Written Answers JUNE 13. 1994 Written Answers 40

SI. Name of the Company Item 01 Manufacture Proposed No. investment ----_ 53. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. EPABXlPABXlPBX

54. Tata Telecom. Ltd. EPABXlEPAX 0

55. Hind Condensor Ltd. Day Telephones Coin & or Card op 44

56. Porta India Pvt. Ltd. Main Distribution Frame 150

57. Xl Telecom Pvt. Ltd. Production Modules lor MDF 90

58. Unite,] Telecoms L:d. Main Distriubtion Frames lor 128 0

59. Ports Systems India Pvt. Ltd. Main Distribution Frame 89

60 National Telecom India Ltd. Digtl. Distribution Frame for Multipal 0

61. Tata Keltron Ltd. Key Telephones 154

62. Tata Keltron Ltd. Key Telephones 130

63. Tata Telecom Key Telephone Sys. Accessories 47

64. Salore Intemational Key Telephone System 0

65. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Key Telephone System 0

66. Jayanthi Business Machines Ltd. 2 Line Telephone 352

67. Straw Products Ltd. Key Telephone Systems 0

68. HCl Ltd. (Telecommunication On) EPABX System KTS 290

69. J.K. Tflietror,ix Ltd. Key Telephone Systems 0

70. National Telcom India Ltd. Line Card for E 10B Exchange 0

71. Teleprinters ltd. large Electronic Exchanges 500

72. Kanazia Digital SySfems Pvt. ltd. Software for microprocessor base 0

73. Andhra Electronic Pvt. ltd. Packet Switched public data network 0 41 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 tSAKA) Written Answers 42

SI. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

74. GVK Telecom Ltd. Telecom Paging Service 25

75. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Instant Acccess Voice Communication 0

76. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Interactive Voice Response System 0

77. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Video Conferencing equipmentslsystem 0

78. Tata Telecom. Ltd. Voice Processing Units & Allied 8

79. New Canon Marketing Pvt. Ltd. Photocopier 0

80. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Telephone (Feature Phone With/without) 0

81. Larsen & Tubro Ltd. Telephonic or Telegraphic Switch 50

82. Straw Products LId. Optical Line Tenninal Equipment 0

83. J.K. Teletronic Ltd. Optical Line Tenninal Equipment 0

84. National Telcom India Ltd. Subscriber Loop Carrier 535

85. National Telecom India Ltd. Optical Line Terminals Regener 635

86. Himachal Futiristic Communications Ltd. Optical Fibre Line Tenninal Equipment 710

87. United Telecoms. Ltd. MILT 64 348

88. Siemens Ltd. Electrical Apparatus for line TE 2600

89. Siemens Ltd. Optical Line Tennination Equip. 0

90. InterCity Cable Systems (P) Ltd. EPABXlEPBTffransmission Equip. 0

91. Salora Intemational Nonnal Push Bullon Telephone 0

92. United Telecoms Ltd. Electronic Push Button Telephone 0

93. Elder Electronics Industries Ltd. Telephone Sets Push Button Type 336 43 Written Answers JUNE 13,1994 Written Answers 44

St. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

94. Priyaraj Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Telephone Instruments .229

95. Intercity Cable Systems (P) Ltd. Push Button Telephone 0

96. Uptron India Limited Push Button Telephone Set 25

97. India Telecom Ltd. T~lephone Instruments 207

98. Punjab Wireless System Ltd. Telephone Instruments 15

99. J.K. Teletronic Ltd. Push Button Telephone 0

100. Ellora Time Private Ltd. Telephone set Push Button type 801

101. MEK Video Private Ltd. Line Jack Unit 0

102. Silkee Electronics Pv.I. Ltd. Silicone Rubber Key Pads SWitch 110

103. MEK Video Private Ltd. Headphones 0

104. Eider Telecom Ltd. Bubglar/Flre Alann Systems 0

105. National Telecom India Ltd. Multi Une ObservatJon Equipment 0

106. Keltron Electro Ceramics (P) Ltd. Piezo Ceramic Buzzers 5

107. Transmatic System Ltd. Telephones Call Monitor 114

108. BPL Systems & Products Ltd. Multiuser Telex 0

109. Oynavision Ltd. Telephone Answering Machines 0

110. Punjab Wireless System Ltd. Telephone Answering Machines 0

111. MEK Video Private Ltd. Panwala Payphones 50

112. San Electronics Ltd. Payphones 149

113. Lakshmi Machine Works Ltd. Electronic Payphones Models Coin 2385 45 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

SI. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

114. Lakshmi Machine Works Ltd: Electronic Payphones Models Coin 899

115. Mekaster Telematics Ltd. Payphones 275

116. Modi Telematics Ltd. Digital Facsimile Sys. & allied 330

117. Makan Investments and Trading Co. Pv. Facsimile Machine n

118. Network Ltd. Facsimile Machine 12

119. Global Telesystems Facsimile Machine 90

120. SV ElectroniCS Fax 100

121. Michelle Impex Pvt. Ltd. Fax 22

122. Bestavision Electronics Ltd. Fax 248

123. TVS Electronics Ltd. Fax 35

124. Hemang N Budhed Fax 154

125. Kalyani Sharp India Ltd. Fax 285

126. Electronics Trade & Technology Facsimile Machines 150

127. Salora Intemational Facsimile Machine 950

128. New Canon Marketing Pvt. Ltd. Fax Machine 2130

129. Semi Conductor Complex Ltd. Facsimiles Machine 115

130. New Video Ltd. Facsimile Machine Fax 170

131. HCL Ltd. (Telecommunication Division) Facsimile Equipment 200

132. HCL Ltd. (Telecommunication Division) Facsimile Equipment 2000

133. BPL Systems & Projects Ltd. Fax Modem 487 47 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 48

51. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

134. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Facsimile Machine 110

135. BPL Systems & Projects Ltd. Facsimile Transreceiver Equipment 467

136. Jayanti Business Machines Ltd. Disc Top Facsimile Machine 352

137. National Radio & Electronics Co. Ltd. X. 25/Multi Protocol Convertor/Co 276

138. NELCO Cordless Telephone 120

139. NELCO Cordless Telephone 120

140. Skytel Communication Ltd. Telephones Cordless, TAM, FEATU. 0

141. Bhara! Electronics Ltd. Cordless Phones 0

142. Salora Intemational Cordless Telephones 0

143. Hind Condensor Ltd. Cprdless Telephones 20

144. Dynavlsion Ltd. Cordless Telephones 188

145. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Cordless Telephones 0

146. Jayan!i Business Machines Ltd. Cordless Telephones 352

147. Straw Product Ltd. Cordless Telephones 0

148. Punjab Wireless Systems Ltd. Cordless Telephones 16

149. J.K. Telephonix Ltd. Cordless Telephones 0

150. Asean Brown Boari Ltd. Data Communication Equipment 0

151. Kanazta DigHaI Systems Pvt. Ltd. Telecom Equipment & Voice & Data Co. 1204

152. Siemens Ltd. Data Base Preparation and Software 129

153. Megatec Advance Tech. Pvt. Ltd. Optical Fibre cable joint Closer 5 49 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

81. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

154. VXL Engineers Ltd. Data Communication Equipment 1742

155. Crompton Greaves Ltd. Digital Multiplex System 75

156. Omnitel Industries LId. Multipart Multi Protocol Communication 50

157. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Packet ModemslData Controllers 0

158. Straw Products Ltd. Multiplexers 2265

159. J.K. Teletronix Ltd. Multiplexers 2265

160. National Telecom India Ltd. Digital Multiplexer System 0

161. Himachal Futiristic Communication Ltd. Digital Multiplexer Equipmimt 0

162. Himachal Futiristic Communication Ltd. Integrated Equipment (01 & Multi) 0

163. Punjab Communications Ltd. Pulse Code Modulation Multiplex-I 210

164. Bharati Telecom. Ltd. Cellular Telephone Terminals 10000

165. Shyam Antenna Electronic Pvt. Ltd. Cellular Phone System Duplexers 0

166. Kamataka Telecables Ltd. Cellular Telephones Conforming to 812

167. J.K. Teletronix Ltd. Cellular Phones 0

168. Philips India LId. Parts Suitable for use with Appa. 4

169. National Telecom. India Ltd. Radio Pagers 0

170. Global Wireless Technology LId. Radio Papers 0

171. Global Wireless Technology LId. Radio Paging System 0 .

172. Goa Telecommunications & Systems LI VHFIUHF and Microwave Communication 2

173. Creative Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Una Extender 4 51 WrittelfAnswers JUNE 13. 1994 Written Answers 52

51. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

174. Supreme Telecommunication Pvt. Ltd. Digital UHF Microwave Equipments 429

175. National Telecom India Ltd. Multi Acess Rural Radio Commu. 8n6

176. National Telecom Ir,dia Ltd. Digital Microwave Rado Equip. o

1n. Siemens Ltd. Transmission Apparatus for Radio 2600

178. Siemens Ltd. Transmission Apparatus for Radio o

179. Shyam Antenna Electronic Pvt. Ltd. 1+ 10+30 Channel Radio +MUX 2115+4 255

180. Siemens Ltd. Trasmission Apparatus for RadiO o

181. Siemens Ltd. 3CH. Open Wire System 5798

182. Priyaraj Electronics Pvt. Ltd. 7.2 Met Dia Normal Extended C-Ban 103

183. Priyaraj Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Coils and Transformers for Telecom. 4500

184. Advanced Radio Masts Pvt. ltd. 2115 Shared Radio Systems 109

185. Ericsson India Ltd. Transmission Apparatus for Radio o

186. Amber Enterprises India Pvt. Ltd. Cabinetary Components Electronic 159

187. Mekaster Telematics ltd. Printed Wire Boards for TelefTel. 2590

188. Straw Products Ltd. Central Transmission Management o

189. Vikas Hybride and Electronic ltd. Transmission Equipments 35

190. Oildata Tech. Ltd. Time Assisgnment Speech Interpola 192

191. Vindhya Telelinks Ltd. Insulated Cables Cords and Flexe. o

192. SM Electronics Pvt. ltd. Radio Communication Receiver 151

193. Vindhya Telelinks Ltd. Insulated Cables Cords and Flexe o 53 Written Answem JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answem 54

St. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

194. Biria Ericsson Optical Ltd. Insulated Cables Cords and Flexe 0

195. Vindhya Telelinks Ltd. Insulated Cable Cords and Flexe 0

196. Precission Electronic (P) Ltd. Transformers 384

197. Advanced Radio Masts Pvt. Ltd. Transmission Apparatus 220

198. SSB Industries UHF RRS upto 120 VoicalData Chis. 20

199. Hlndustan Paging Ltd. Analog & Digital Subscriber Carr. 10

200. UMS Radio Factory Pvt. Ltd. Wireless Paging System 10

201. Hindustan Paging Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 4828

202. SKY Telecommunication Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 4250

203. CityWide Communication & Computers Radio Paging Systems 4300

204. Star Paging Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 3727

205. City Wide Communication & Computers Radio Paging Systems 0

206. Star Paging Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 3727

207. Kamataka Telecables Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 610

208. Microwave Comminications Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 536

209. Wabel Communication Industries Ltd. Radio Paging Systems 84

210. Motorola PriVate Ltd. Pagers and Paging System 2700

211. Motorola PriVate Ltd. Pagers 1015

212. Punjab Wireless System Ltd. Paging Receivers 1200

213. Hlndustan Paging Ltd. Cellular Raclo Including Base Co. 0 55 Written AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Written AtJSWeJS 56

SI. Name of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

214. Arya Communications & Electronics Radio Communication Equlprnents 100

215. WS Telesystems Radio Relay Equipment-10 Channel o

216. J.K. Teletronix Ltd. Microwave Communication Eq. o

217. A.P.lntemational CordlesS/Business Telephones 65

218. National Information Technologies Microwave Radio Communication ED 680

219. Mek Video Private Ltd. Plan 104/103 (Digital) o

220. Rising Sun Engineers Ltd. 10 CHL Digital UHF BRU System o

221. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. UHFNHF Hand held Transreceiver 110

222. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. UHFNHF Base/Moblle Transreceiver o

223. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. UHFNHF Digital Selcal MobilelBA o

224. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. UHFNHF Repeaters AutolBack TO B o

225. Wean Broadcomm. Cables Pvt. Ltd. Coaxial Cables 149

226. Rajasthan Communications Ltd. Digital Microwave Radio 1100

227. Punjab State Electronics Devt. & Pro. Digital Electronics Switching System 1530

228. Siemens LId. Digital Electronics Switching System 1390

229. National Telecom India Ltd. Multi Channel per carrier Terminal 1220

230. Gujarat Communication & Electronics Time Division Multiple Access ED o

231. Ramaiya Electronics Ltd. Two way Radio Communication & AL 25

232. Eider Telecom Ltd. Two way Radio Communication EquL HF o

233. Adino Telecom Ltd. Two way Radio Commur,lca\\()1\ Eo,ui. 52

234. Pragati Computers Pvt. Ltd. PC Based Telecommunication EquL 92

235. National Telecom India Ltd. PCM Mux·Equipment o 57 Written Answer.s JYAISTHA 23. 1916 (SAKA) Written Answer.s 58

Sf. ~ame of the Company Item of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

236. Honeycomb Telecom Systems Pvt. Ltd. Radio Communication Equip. VHF UH 105

237. Shyam Antenna'Electronic Pvt. Ltd. Antenna including VHFIUHF Vagi + M 0

238. Siemens ltd. VHF UHF Micro Commn. 0

239. Intercity Cable Systems Pvt. Ltd. VHFIUHF Satellite Antenna 0

240. UMS Radio Factory Pvt. ltd. Aerials & Aerial Reflectors of A 74

241. Solidaire India Ltd. Satellite Communication Receiver 5

242. Solidalre India Ltd. Satellite Communication Systems 5

243. Kamataka Telecables Ltd. Satellite Communication System 715

244. Vintex RF Products Pvt. Ltd. Microwave Satellite Terminals 138

245. Parps Electronics Satellite Commn. Equipment 3585

246. Straw Products Ltd. Microwave Communication Eqpt. 0

247. Andhra Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Satellite Earth Station 610

248. Communication Electronic CB Wireless Transceivers VHF WIR 9

249. Gujarat Communication & Electronics High Power TV Transmitter 0

250. Satkar Electronics Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 318

251. Susee Spacetek Pvt. Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 56

252. Himachal Telematics Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 47

253. Instrumentation Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 645

254~ 8P~ System & Projects Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 35

255. Elder Electronics Industries Ltd. Satellite Communication Equipment 266

256. Nationallntormation Technologies Sattelllte Communication Equipment 215

257. Universal cables Ltd. Telecommunication cables 0 59 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 60

SI. Name of the Company lIem of Manufacture Proposed No. Investment

258. Universal Cables Ltd. Insulated Cables 0

259. Crompton Greaves Ltd. Analogue Carrier Systems 10

260. Vintek RF Products Pvt. Ltd. Microwave Up/Down Convf!rted RS 0

261. Videocon VCR Ltd. Reception Appar. for Radio Tele. B 117

262. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. Micro/Master Earth Station Equip. 195

263. Samarth Shipping and FAX 125 Marine Company

264. Escorts ltd. (Telecommunication D) Vast Networks Satellite Commns. E 0

265. Andhra Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Very Small Aperture Terminal (VSA) 0

266. National Radio & Electronics Co. Ltd. Smal! Aperture Terminals 75

267. Global Wireless Technology Ltd. HF-SSB Transreceivers 0

268. Intercity Cable System (P) Ltd. Mast for Communication Antennas 195

269. B.A. Cables Ltd. Jelly Filled Telecom Cables 1545

270. B.R. Cables Ltd. Jelly Filled Telecom Cables 1600

271. Gujarat Telephone Cables LId. Jelly Filled Telecom Gables 3594

272. M.P. Telelinks ltd. Polyethylene Insulated JFC 975

273. Kanazia Digital Systems Pvt. Ltd. Printed Circuit Board Assembly 0

274. Kanazia Digital Systems Pvt. Ltd. Software for.testing PCBS 0

275. Prasha Electronics LId. Precision Sheet Metal Components 160

276. Crystal Cable Industries LId. PVC Power Minining & Control Cable 60

277. Crystal Cable Industries ltd. XPLB Insulated Power Cables 0

278. Philips India Ltd. Metal Piece Parts for Elec. Indu. 450

Total Proposed investment for all items 149454.58 61 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answer.s 62

STATEMENT - II

Radio Paging Service (27 cities)

List of provisionally shortlisted bidders to whom leNers of intent have been issued. The matter is sub-judice in the High Court of Delhi but there is no Stay

81. Name of the Company Cities Foreign Remarks No. Collaborator

1. MIs. Arya Communications Bombay, Motorola Inti. and Electronics, Sangalore. Paging Int. USA. 105. Maker Chambers, VI, 220, Nariman Point, Bombay-400021.

2. MIs. Matrix Paging (India) Pune, Matrix Telecom, Ltd. Pvt. ltd., Vadodara, Australia. Anil Chambers (Near Crown Rajkot, Mills) Andheri-Kurla Road, Sural. Sakimaka, Bombay-400072.

3. Mis. Telesistem (India) Madras, Telesistem SDN BHD, Pvl. ltd., 2311, Xlth Main Sangalore, Malaysia. Road. Near Post Office, Emakulam, Vasanl Nagar, Coimbatore, Bangalore-560052. Trivandrum, Madurai.

4. MIs. Essjay Telecom Delhi, Telecom Inll. Services Pvt. Ltd., Bombay. Newzealand. 13, Masjit Moth, DDA, Commercial Complex, New Delhi-110048.

5. Mis. India Telecom, Bombay 1. Steamers Telecom Telecom, House, Ahmedabad Pvt. Ltd. Singapore L-12, South Extension-II, Bangalore, 2. Electcoms SON New Delhi-11 0049. Pune, SHD, Malaysia Hyderabad, Kanpur, Lucknow, Delhi, Calcutta, Madras. 63 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 64

SI. Name of the Company Cities Foreign Remar1

6. MIs. Mobile Communications Delhi, 1. NITII, Japan. Ltd., 505, New Delhi House, Calcutta, 2. C-ITOH, Japan. 27, Bara Khamba Road, Madras, New Delhi-ll000l. Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Pune.

7. Mis. Hutchison Max. Telecom, Ahmedabad, Huctchinson Telecom 12th Floor, Devika Tower, Bangalore, Hongkong. 6 Nehru Place, Pune, New Delhi-l10019. Vadodara, Chandigam, Hyderabad, Ludhiana,

8. Mis. Modi Telecommunications, Madras, Bhopal, Nynex Network Ltd., Kanpur, Jaipur, Systems, USA. 12, Friends Colony, Chandig3m, New Delhi-II 0065. Lucknow, Indore, Varanasi.

9. Mis. Easy Call Communications Calcutta, Easycall Comm, (India) Pv1. Ltd., Hyderabad, Philippines. LB/5, Ansal Bhawan, Nagpur, Indore, 16,Kasturba Gandhi Marg Bhopal, New Delhi-ll000l. Visakapatnam, Patna.

10. MIs. Microwave Communications. Bombay, Fades West, Ltd., 1202, Chiranjiv Tower, Calcutta, US. 43, Nehru Place, Vadodara, New Delhi-ll0019. Ahmedabad, Surat, Rajkot.

11. MIs. ABC Communications Delhi, Kanpur, ABC Communi- (India) Pvt. Ltd., Jaipur, cations Ltd. 44B, Nariman Bhawan, Chandigarh, Hongkong. Naoman Point, Varanasi. Bombay-400021. Ludhiana, Amritsar. 65 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

81. Name of the Company Cities Foreign Remarks No. Collaborator

12. M/s. Usha Martin Telecom Ltd., Nagpur, Rajkot, Telecom Ucence 16, Community Centre, Ernakulam, Malaysia agreement Sakel, New Delhi·11 0017. Indore, Berhad, signed Coimbatore, Malaysia 17.5.94 Bhopal, Varanasi, Palna, Madurai, Visakhapatn am ,

13. M/s. Weston Pagers Pvt. Ltd., Kanpur, ,. Champion Technology Weston House, Nagpur, Ltd. Hongkong, Okhla Industrial Estate, Surat, 2. Harilela Kanton New Delhi·, 10020. Jaipur, Telecom Ltd., Vadodara, Hongkong. Chandigarh, Rajkct, Lucknow, Vishalkapatnam, Trivandrum.

14. M/s. BPL System and Projects Ernalkulam, 1. France Telecom Ltd., 64 Chruch Street, Trivandrum. Mobiles International Bangalore·560001 . 2. LCC Inc. USA.

15. Mis. Beltran Telecommunications Sural, IMS, USA. Ltd., J·189, Peoples Co· Nagpur, operatives, Lohianagar, Palna, Patna-800020. Ludhiana, Amritsar. . 67 Written AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 68'

Cellular Mobile Telephone Service

Provisionally shortlisted biddelS. The matter is Sub-Judice in the Supreme Court. The hearings in the case are over and Judgement is awaited

51. Name of the Company Name of the Foreign Partner Cities No.

1. MIs. Hutchison Max Telecom., MIs. Hutchison, Whamppa Bombay Devika Tower, 6, Nehru Place, New Delhi-110019.

2. MIs. Bhartri Cellular Ltd., (i) Mis. General Mobile, U.K. Bombay 15th Floor, Devika Tower, (ii) S.F.R. France 6, Nehru Place, New Delhi-l10019.

3. Mis. BPL Systems & Projects Mis. France Telecom. Delhi Ltd., 1/1, Palace Road, Bangalore-560001.

4. MIs. Sterling Cellular Ltd., Mis. Cellular Communi- Delhi 19, Cathedral Garden Road, cation International Nungambakkam, Inc. U.S.A. Madras-600034

5. Mis. Usha Martin Telecom Ltd., Mis. Telecom., Malaysia. Calc una 503, Hemkunt Chambers, Nehru Place, New Delhi-110019.

6. MIs. Indian Telecom. Pvt. Ltd., Mis. OTC International, Calcutta 13th Floor, Hemkunt Tower, Australia. 98, Nehru Place, New Delhi-I 10019.

7. MIs. 5kycell Communication Mis. Bell South, Madras Pvt. Ltd., U.S.A. Sardar Mohan Singh Building, Connaught Lane, New Delhi-II 0001.

8. Mis. Mobile Telecom Service Ltd., Mis. Vod6fine, UK Madras MIs. Vodofine,U.K. N-83, Partap Building, 1st Floor, Connaught Circus, New Delhi-II 0001. 69 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 Electronic Mail Service

SI. Name of the Company Status No.

1. ICNET Pvt. Ltd. Ucence Agreement Sorrento 6 Lattice Bridge Road, signed on 7.1.94 Adyar, Madras-600020.

2. Datapro Information Technology Pvt. Ltd., Licence Agreement EL-21 , Elec. Zone signed on 3.6.94. MIDC Bhosari, Pune-411 026.

3. Dynamic Tele Services (I) Pvt. Ltd., Revised letter of 156A, Lenin Sarani, intent issued on Room 302 D, Calculta-700013. 15/3/94.

4. MIs. CMC Ltd., -do- 1 Ring Road, Kilokari, Opp. Maharani Bagh, New Delhi-110014.

5. MIs. RPG Telecom Ltd. -do- (i) Sprint Intemational ™Pratap Bhawan, First Floor, inc. U.S.A. N-83, Connought Circus, (ii) RPG Intemational New Oelhi-110001. Communications Corporation, U.S,A.

6. MIs. WIPRO Infotech Ltd., -do- 88, MG Road, Bangalore-560001.

7. MIs. Dataline Research Technology, Licence Agreement 31, Noble Chamber, 4th Floor, signed on 11.5.94 Janambhoomi Marg Fort, Bombay - 400001.

8. MIs. Business India Information Revised letter of 8-3/86 Safdarjung Enclave, intent issued on New Delhi-110029. 15.3.94

9. MIs Sterling Computers, Plot No. 16 & 1'7 Developed Plot Industrial Estate, Prungudi, Madras-600096. 71 Written Answers JUNE 13. 1994 Written Answe~ 72

SI. Name of the Company Status No.

10. Mis. VSNL, Revised letter of intent Videsh Sanchar Bhawan, issued on 15.3.94 MG Fort, Bombay-400001.

11. Mis. Archana Telecom Service Pvt. Ltd., -do- Grandlay Cinema Community Complex, New Delhi-11 0065.

12. MiS. Global Telecom, Service Ltd., -do- 412, Janambhoomi Chambers, 29 Walchand :-ieera Chand Marg, Bombay-400030.

13. Mis. Crompton Greaves, Letter of Intent issued Vandhana, II-Tolstoy Marg, on 6.5.94. New Oelhi-11 0001.

Voice Maii

SI. Name of the Company Status Cities No.

1. Indian Telecom, Pvt. Ltd., Revised Letter of Intent New Delhi, 13th Floor, Hemkunt Tower, issued on 22.4.94 Bombay, 98, Nehru Place, Madras, New Oelhi-110019. Calcutta

2. MiS. TCIL, -do- New Delhi, Devika Tower Bombay, 5th Floor, 6-Nehru Place, Calcutta New delhi-11 0019

3. Mis. Darcon Systems Pvt. Ltd., -do- Ahmedabad, 18, Shankuntala Park, Surat, Manjalpur, Vadodara Vadodara-390004. 7J WIfIMn AnI".,. JYAlSTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answent 74 64 KBPS Data SBf\Ifce Via SateUite

Sf. Nama of the Company 'status Foreign Collaborator No.

1. MIs. Hughes Escorts Letter of tr.... Hughes Network CommunIcatIOn Issued Oit 22.9.93: System, USA. 2nd Floor, InIarDaIIonal Ttade Tower, Nehru Place, New OeIhI-ll0019.

2. MIs. RPG Telecom Ltd., leiter of Intent Comstrearn First Floor, Pra1ap Building; Issued 0017.11.93. Corporation, USA. N-83, Comaught CIrcus, New DeIhI-l0019.

3. Mls.- MAX India Ltd. Cosmat Corporation, Devika Tower, Nehru Place, USA. New Delhl-110019.

4. M/s;tiCL-Hewlett Packard Ltd., Letter of Intent GTE Spacenet 508-504, Sldharalh, Issued on 21.2.94. Corporation, U.S.A. 96, Nehru Place, New Delhl-19

5. Mis. Wipro Infotech Letter of Intent 88, MG Road, Issued on 17.12.93; BangaJore-56001.

6. MIs. Amadeus Investments & Letter of Intent issued Telstra Holdings Finance Lentln Chambers, on 21.2.94. Proprietary Ltd., DaIaJ Street. Australia. Bombay-400023.

7. MIs. Vlntek RF Products Pvt. Ltd., Letter of Intent. No. 600167712, VIle KahaIII, issued on 3.5.94. VII. Opp.. 11M Bannerghatla Road, BIngaIont-56OO76. 75 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 76 New Telecom Policy (e) protection of defence and security interests of tne country. *4. DR. RAMESH CHAND TOMAR: Under the Policy, companies SHRIMATI GEETA registered in India-will be allowed to MUKHERJEE: participate in thEf expansion of the telecommunication. network in the area of Will the Minister of basic telephone services also with a view COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: to supplementing the effort of the Department of Telecommunications in providing telecommunication services to (a) Whether the Government have the people. The policy also envisages finalised the new telecom policy recently; making of suitable arrangements to protect and promote the interest of the (b) if so, the details thereof; consumers and ensure fair competition.

(c) whether any guidelines have (c) and (d). A Committee within the been formulated for its implementation; department has been constituted for the purpose and its report is awaited. (d) if so, the details thereof; and (e) It will be implemented (e) the time by which it is likely to immediately after the guidelines are finalised and approved by the be implemented? Government.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Food Processing Units THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. *5. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING (b) The objectives of the New INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: Telecom Policy are as follows: (a) the number of proposals re- (a) telecommunication for all and ceived by the Government from Non- telecommunication within the Resident Indians and other mwtiflalionals reach of all; for setting up of Food Processing Units in India during the last two years; (b) to achieve universal service covering all villages as early as (b) the number of these proposals possible; cleared by the Government;

(c) the quality of telecom services (c) the quantum of foreign ex- should be of world standard; change involved therein;

(d) to ensure that India emerges as (d) whether these units have started a major manufacturing base and production; major exporter of telecom equipment: (e) jf so, tM details thereof; 77 Written Answers JYAI$THA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers . 78

(f) if not, the time by which these (a) the number of Indian soldiers units are likely to start production; and civilians languishing in jails in foreign countries; . (g) whether the Government have received such proposals during the cur- (b) the efforts madelbeing made by rent financial year also, particularly for the Government for their ear1y release; Maharashtra, Rajasthan and other indus- trial, backward areas; and (c) the number of Indians released (h) if so, the details thereof? as a result of the efforts made by the Government during the last three years; and . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESS- ING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN (d) the number o,f Indian fugitives GOGOI): (a) to (c). Out of 148 proposals abroad and the steps being taken by the received during 1992-93 and 93-94, from Government for their extradition? Non-Resident Indians, foreigners and other multinationals and others, in respect of various sectors of food processing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE industries, 135 have been cleared MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS involving a foreign investment of (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) According to Rs. 1368.38 crores. data collated by Government, approx. 9000 Indian soldiers and civilians were in jails in foreign countries as on (d) to (f). While 10 units have December 1993. Information for the years already started production others are in 1992 and 1993 is as per the Statement. the various stages of implementation. Of this number, according to information Such units normally take a period of available. 54 Indian defence 'personnel about 2-3 years for implementation. are believed to be in Pakistani jails. Government of Pakistan, however (g) and (h). 12 proposals have maintains that there are no Indian de- been received during the current financial fence personnel in its custody. yearior Foreign Collaboration in the FruIt & Vegetable processing, Meat & Meat Products Sector and Consumer Industries (b) Indian Missions follow up all out of which, 3 are proposed to be set cases vigorously with the local authorities up in Maharashtra. for review and expeditious release. Apart from regUlar meetings with the jail autho- [Translation} rities, matters are taken up as and when necessary with the respective Foreign Offices. However, a number of Govern- Indians in Foreign Jails ments do not entertain requests for review of the term of imprisonment *6. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: decided by a court of law and release SHRI PREM CHAND RAM: prisoners on completion of their term of imprisonment. Indian Missions make all Will the Minister of EXTERNAL efforts to ensure that effective legal AFFAIRS be pleased to state: defence is available to the prisoners. 79 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 80 (c) The number of prisoners released (d) Government of India have during 1992 and 1993 is as per column 4 of sought the retum of 89 fugitives, including the Statement. These include persons persons whose national identity is being released due to efforts made by the Indian ascertained. Requests have been made Missions abroad and those released from through Interpol and bilaterally for the time to time on completion of their arrest of these fugitives and their sentences. return.

STATEMENT

81. Name of Country No. of Indians No. of Indians Released No. in Jail during 1992 & 93

1. Arab Republic of EGYPT 14 Nil

2. Australia 3 Nil

3. Austria 3 Nil

4. Bangladesh 310 157

5. Bhutan 52 Nil

6. Burma 12 Nil

7. Canada 10 Nil

8. Denmark 2 Nil

9. Federal Republic of Germany 27 6

10. Ghana Nil

11. Greece 9 185

12. Guyana Nil

13. Hongkong 16 Nil

14. Hungary 9 24

15. Indonesia 2 2

16.' Iran 26 14

17. Iraq 3 81 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

51. Name of Country No. of Indians No. of Indians Released No. in Jail during 1992 & 93

18. Ireland

19. Italy 122 6

20. Japan 4

21. Jordan 2 11

22. Kenya 3 Nil

23. Kuwait 52 Nil

24 Lebanon 4 5

25. Ma\aysia 99 361

26. Maldives 2 Nil

27. Mauritius 19 Nil

28. Mexico 23 95

29. Nepal 186 Nil

30. Netherlands 9 Nil

31. Newzealand Nil

32. Nigeria Nit

33. Sultanate of Oman 66 Nil

34. Pakistan 960 184 (Including 54 Soldiers)

35. Panama 18 Nil

36. Portugal Nil 83 Written Answers JUNE 13. 1994 Written Answers. 84

SI. Name of Country No. of Indians No. of Indians Released No. in Jail during 1992 & 93

37. Qatar 56 445

38. Russia 2

39. Saudi Arabia 5555 # 9558 #

40. Singapore 251 702

41. Spain 11 Nil

42. Sri Lanka 20 28

43. Syrian Arab Republic 6 21

44. Thailand 6 13

45. U.A.E. 500 # 4377 #

46. Uganda Nil 2

47. United Kingdom 354 1201

48. U.S.A. 34 Nil

49. Uzbekistan

50. Yemen 6 Nil

51. Yugoslavia 48 24

52. Zimbabwe 2 Nil

Grand Total 8.925 17,427

#The figures include those arrested for violation of immigration laws and subsequently deported. All figures are provisional. 85 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 Power plants in Private Sector proximately Rs. 1,04,151.00 crores. Out of these, 7 power projects have been *7. SHRI NARAIN SINGH accorded techno-economic clearance by CHAUDHARY: CEA. SHRI R. DHANUSKODI ATHITHAN: (c) As on date, proposals have been received for setting up of 16 power Will the Minister of POWER be projects in the private sector with a pleased to state: capacity addition of 6033.50 MW, costing approximately Rs. 17,242 crores in the (a) whether the Government have Northern Region and out of these one decided to entrust the work of setting up has been accorded techno-economic of power plants to private sector; clearance of CEA.

(b) if so, the number of such (d) and (e). The policy permits upto proposals approved so far; hundred per cent (100%) foreign equity participation for projects set up by foreign (e) the number of plants out of private investors: The details of the policy them to be set up in North India; are given in the enclosed Statement.

(d) whether the Government have STATEMENT invited the multinational companies for making investments in this field; and Details of the policy to encourage (e) if so, the details thereof? greater private investments in power generation and distribution to tap additionality of resources THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE): (a) Inter-alia, in the context of paucity of resources with The following are the details of the Central/State PSUs and SEBs and to scheme to encourage greater private bridge the gap between the rapidly sector participation in the electricity growing demand for electricity and supply, generation, supply and distribution: a policy to encourage greater investments by private enterprises in the power sector The Indian Electricity Act, 1910 with the objective of mobilising additional and the Electricity (Supply) Act, resources for capacity addition in power 1948 have been amended to bring generation and distribution, had been ?bout a new legal, administrative formulated in 1991. Necessary changes and financial environment for were made in the Legal frame work and private enterprises in the Electricity the policy is currently under implementa- Sector. tion.

(b) As on date, proposals have Private Sector can set up thermal been received for setting up of 75 power projects (coal/gas) and hydel projects in the private sector for a capa- projects and wind/solar energy city addition of 32661 MW costing ap- project of any size. 87 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 88 Electricity Projects where the total The rates for· depreciation in outlay does not exceed As. 25 respect of assets have been crores need not be submitted to liberalised. the Central. Electricity Authority for concurrence. With the approval of the Government, import of equipment • Private sector companies can set for power projects will also be up enterprises to operate either permitted in cases where foreign as licensees or as generating supplier(s) or agency(ies) extend companies. concessional; credit.

All private companies entering the The customs duty for import of Electricity Sector hereafter will be power equipment has been allowed a debt-equity ratio upto reduced to 30% and this rate has 4:1. also been extended to machinery required for modernisation and Minimum of 20% of the total renovation of power plants. outlay should .be the equity. A five year tax holiday has been Promoter's contribution should be allowed in respect of profits and at least 11 % of the total outlay. gains of new industrial undertakings set up anywhere in India for either generation or Not more than 40% of the total generation and distribution of outlay can come from Indian Public power. The five year tax holiday Financial Institutions. will begin from the year of generation of power. To ensure that private entrepreneurs bring in additionality The excise duty on a large number of resources to the sector, not of capital and instruments in the less than 60% of the total outlay power sector has been reduced for the project must come from to a lower rate. sources other than Public Financial Institutions. The 16% return on the foreign Upto hundred per cent (100%) equity included in the tariff can be foreign equity participaticm can be provided in the respective foreign currency. permitted for projects s~t up by foreign private investo~. . Fixed costs can be recovered at The condition of dividend bIaIancing 68.5% pLF. Attractive incentives by export earnings whiCh· is are prescribed for performance normally being applied to caees beyond this PLF. of foreign investment upto 51% equity will not be applicable to Flexibility has been allowed in foreign investments in the pOwer including insurance in the project sector. cost. 89 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23.1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 90 For generating companies the Foreign-aided power projects following incentives are offered:- *S. SHRI GUMAN MAL Normative parameters under LODHA: which generating companies wHi SHRI NITISH KUMAR: operate have been notified which inter alia provide for 16% rate of Will the Minister of POWER be return on the paid up and sub- pleased to state: scribed equity.

(a) whether some power projects Generating companies operating were under construction with foreign coal based, gas based and hydro financial assistance during 1992-93 and projects can sell power on the 1993-94; basis of a suitably structured two part tariff. (b) if so, the total number of such projects alongwith the total power gener- Government of India may consider ation capacity thereof; extending a counter guarantee for the payment obligations of State Electricity Boards to the private (c) the total construction cost of power companies on the specific these projects and the total amount to request of the concerned State be received from foreign financial compa- Government. nies;

The specific· incentives for Ucences (d) whether some of these power are:- projects could not be completed as per schedule; Licences of longer duration of 30 years in the first instance and (e) if so, the names of such pro- subsequent renewals of 20 years jects; and instead of 20 and 10 years respectively as it was before. (f) the reasons therefor?

Higher rate of return of 5% in THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI place of the previous 2% above N.K.P. SALVE): (a) to (c). Details of the RBI rate. power projects under construction with foreign financial assistance during 1992- Capitalisation of Interest During 93 and 1993-94 are given in the Construction (IDC) at actual cost Statement-I. (for expansion projects also) as against , % over RI;lI rate as it (d) to (f). Details of power projects was before. under construction with foreign financial assistance during 1992-93 and 1993-94 .. Special appr~riations to meet which could not be completed as per debt ~ obligation. schedule are given in the Statement-II. 91 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 o Written Answers 92

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Transportation Sector dence building measures to ensure peace and tranquility along the border and to *9. SHRI JANARDAN MISRA: Will bring about troop reduction; the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) whether a broad agreement to this effect was reached at the second (a) whether his Ministry have invited meeting of the India-China Expert Group the industrialists of Norway to invest held in Beijing in April, 1994; capital in our country recently; (c) if so, whether the delegation (b) if so, the number of industrialists had met and reviewed the progress who have submitted their proposals in made at its first meeting held in New this regard; Delhi in February, 1994;

(c) whether the Government have (d) if so, whether all the outstanding accepted those proposals; issues relating to the Sino-Indian border have been fully reviewed; and (d) if so, the details of the areas in which the capital is to be invested; and (e) if so, the latest p::Jsition in this regard? (e) if not, the reasons therefor and the time by which their requests are likely THE M!NISTER OF STATE IN THE to be accepted? MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (e). The THE MINISTER OF STATE OF second meeting of the India-China Expert THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANS- Group was held in Beijing on April 21- PORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) 22, 1994. The Group reviewed progress Yes, Sir, made at its first meeting and continued deliberations on the tasks assigned to it (b) No proposa! has been received under the Agreement on the Maintenance so far. of Peace and Tranquility along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areas. The mandate of the Expert (c) to (e). Do not arise. Group includes assisting the Joint Working Group in clarification of the Line of Actual Relations with China Control (LAC) between India and China, re-deployment of military forces along the *10. SHRIMATI MAHENDRA LAC, other confidence building measures KUMARI: and verification methods. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: At the second meeting, the two sides reached agreement on the work Will the Minister of EXTERNAL regulations of the Expert Group. This AFFAIRS be pleased to state: document spelling out the mandate, future tasks and modalities of the Expert Group, (a) whether India and China have was signed by the leaders of the two made headway in devising further confi- delegations on April 22, 1994. 115 Written Answers JUNE 13~ 1994 Written Answers 116

80th sides also noted with satis- (f) if so, the details thereof; faction that the situation along the India- China Line of Actual Control (LAC) was peaceful. They also expressed satisfac- (g) whether any guidelinesl conditionalities have been laid down by tion at the confidence building measures the GovernmentlPFC in this regard; and already in place between them and exchanged views on further such measures, as envisaged in the Agrtlement (h) if so, the details thereof? establishing the Expert Group.

THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI Both sides adopted a constructive N.K.P. SALVE): (a) The Power Finance and forward-looking approach in these Corporation (PFC) has so far extended discussions. which were held in a friendly assistance to the State Electricity Boards atmosphere. Discussions in the Expert (SEBs), State Generating Corporations Group will continue. (SGCs) and State Power Departments only. [English]

(b) The details of the loans ad- Power Finance Corporation Loans vanced by PFC to SEBs/SGCs/State Power Departments during the last three '11. SHRI R. SUR ENDER REDDY: years are given in the Statement en- Will the Minister of POWER be pleased closed. to state: (c) Power Finance Corporation will (a) whether hitherto the Power consider funding existing power sector Finance Corporation (PFC) had been companies in the Private Sector provided extending loans only to the State and the the necessary resources for same are Central Power agencies; made available by multilateral agencies.

(b) if so. the details of the loans (d) The decision was based on the advanced to these agencies during the need for diversification of PFC's portfolio last three years, agency-wise; structure, bringing in additionality of re- sources to the power sector, opportunity for co-financing and enhancing PFC's (c) whether PFC has recently de- exposure and expertise. cided to extend the loan facility to private sector power companies also; (e) and (f). To start with, the (d) if so, the reasons for deviation proposal was to restrict such lending to in the established policy; the existing private licencees operating in major cities.

(e) whether the loans will be pro- vided to all the private power companies (g) and (h). Details for such financ- or the facility will be extended on selective ing arrangements have not yet been basis; worked out. ~ 17 Written An.'> >IVers JYAISTHA23. 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 STATEMENT

Details of the loans advanced by PFC during 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94

(Rs. ir Crores)

SI. Borrower During During During No. 199Hl2 1992-93 1993-94

A. State Electricity Boards/State Governments

1. Andhra Pradesh State Electricity Board 138.27 167.84 174.22

2. GovernmE:,,:t r:~ ArUI1

3. Bihar State Eisctricity Board 4.39 2.74 0.48

4. Gujarat Electricity Board 89.78 19.22 13.29

5. Haryana State Electricity Board 17.82 9.71 2.45

6. Himachal Pradesh State Electricity Board 10.75 17.17 10.88

7. Jammu & Kashmir State Electricity Board

8. Karnataka Electricity Board 102.04 4.07 61.78

9. Kerala State Electricity Board '2.'d 3.31 0.78

10. Madhya Pradesh Electricity Board 116.83 79.53 92.73

11 . Maharashtra St"te ElectriCity Board 24.99 58.34 36.63

12. Govt. of Manipu r 2.75

4 .. ~ 13. G(;wt of Mizoram 8.13 .Lv 5.64

14 Govt. of Nagaland 7.43

15. Orissa Stale Electricity Board 13.96 13.96 15.35

16. Punjab State Electricity Board

17. Rajasthan State Electricity Board 3.36 19.43 81.97 119 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 120

SI. Borrower During During During No. 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

18. Govt. of Sikkim 4.73

19. Tamil Nadu Electricity Board 142.10 66.86 66.76

20. Uttar Pradesh State Electricity Board 47.19 77.76 26.75

21. West Bengal State Electricity Board 10.38 3.02 4.58

22. Govt. of Rajasthan 3.08 1.48

23. Govt. of Haryana 7.01 3.38

24. Govt. of Himachal Pradesh 0.42 0.21

B. State Generating Corporations

1 . Tenughat Vidyut Nigam Ltd. 68.52

2. Karnataka Power Corporation Ltd. 1.82 1.34

3. Orissa Power Generation Corpn. Ltd. 38.76 24.73 70.51

4. Uttar Pradesh Rajya Vidyut Utpadan Nigam Ltd.

5. West Bengal Power Development 55.00 28.65 25.80 Corporation Ltd.

6. Durgapur Projects Ltd. 1.57 0.89 0.31

7. Bihar State Hydroelectric Power 7.07 Corporation Ltd.

Total 920.05 612.97 707.50 121 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

Feasibility Studies for Power tisements of some products on electronic Projects media;

*12. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA (b) if so, the details of those RAO: products; SHRI : (c) whether the Government pro- pose to have tripartite discussion between Will the Minister of POWER be his Ministry, Ministry of Health and Family pleased to state: Welfare and concerned Industry Associa- tions; and (a) whether the delay in the finalisa- tion of feasibility studies on Power pro- (d) if so, the details thereof? jects to be set up by State Governments has held up the formalisation of interna- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF tional competitive bidding procedure in THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND the power sector; BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) and (b). Representations (b) if so, whether the Union Gov- concerning advertisements on electronic ernment have urged States to prepare media are received by Government from feasibility reports on power projects; time to time.

(c) the number of States which (c) and (d). Interaction with differ- have finalised the feasibility reports and ent Ministeries and/or Associations con- the reasons for delay in the case of other cerned with advertising on electronic States; and media, is a continuous process, resorted to, as and when required.

(d) the time by which reports by other State Governments are likely to be [Translation] received in this regard? Promotion of Indian Culture! Literature abroad THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE): (a) No, Sir. *14. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHAR- GAVA: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (b) to (d). Do not arise. AFFAIRS be pleased to state:

Advertisements on Doordarshan (a) whether the Government have formulated any scheme to expand the *13. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH library serviaes in its Embassies abroad BRAR: Will the Minister of INFORMA- in order to publicise the Indian literature TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased and to strengthen the literary and cultural to state: relations with intellectuals there; and

(a) whether the Government have (b) if so, the number of Indian received representations to ban adver- Embassies where such library facility is 123 Written AnsW8~ JUNE 13,1994 Written AnsW8~ 124 available at present and the status of THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI these libraries? N.K.P. SALVE): (a) to (d). Government have not organised any Conference of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Power Experts of SEBs, NTPC and MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS NHPC at New Delhi during April, 1994. (SHRI R.L. BHAnA): (a) The improve- Some Conferences may have been or- ment of library services in Indian Missions ganised related to power sector during and Posts abroad is a continuous pro- April, 1994. Government cannot and cess. Books on various facets of India does not have information of all the are regularly supplied to the Missions power conferences that may have been and Posts who maintain regular interaction held during 1994 April, by agencies with intellectual circles, as part of normal wholly unconnected with the Government. diplomatic work, to acquaint them with the latest developments on the Indian Conservation of Fuel literary and cultural scene. *16. DR. K.V.R. CHOWDARY: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT (b) The information is being colleted be pleased to state: and will be placed on the Table of the House. (a) the expenditure incurred on the advertisements for the conservation of [English] fuel during each of the last three years;

Power Conference (b) the funds allocated for thiS purpose during ~ 994-95; *15. DR. LAL BAHADUR RAWAL: (c) whether any evaluation has SHRI SULTAN SALA- been made to assess the impact of these HUDDIN OWAISI: advertisements;

Will the Minister of POWER be (d) if so. the details thereof; and pleased to state: (e) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) whether any conference of power experts of SEBs, NT PC and NHPC THE MINISTER OF STATE OF was held at New Delhi during April, 1994; THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANS- PORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No expenditure was incurred on advertise- (b) if so, the details of the discus- ments for conservation of fuel during the sions held and the outcome thereof; last three years by the Ministry of Surface Transport. (c) whether the aspect of bridging the gap in power availability and demand (b) A provision of Rs. 25.00 lakhs during the Eighth Plan period was also has been made for Energy Conservation discussed; and including publicity and awareness pro- grammes in the Transport Sector for the (d) if so, the details thereof? year 1994-95. 125 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 126

(c) to (e). Do not arise. the terms of BPSA and undertaking projects in one region World Bank Assistance to NTPC with substantial part of the output to be allocated In other region. *17. SHRI TARA SINGH: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: (c) and (d). The World Bank has approved a loan of US $ 400 million to Will the Minister of POWER be the NTPC for the NTPC Power Generation pleased to state: Project. The loan is repayable in 20 years including a five year grace period at the Bank's standard variable interest rate. (a) whether NTPC has recently The major conditions of the loan are:- chalked out a strategy to r"duce its outstandings from the SEBs; (a) The NTPC shall take all steps necessary LO maintain its accounts (b) if so, the details of the strategy receivable at a level not exceeding NTPC propose to adopt in this regard; an amount equivalent to the proceeds of its sales of power for (c) whether the World Bank has the two preceding months. extended any loan to NTPC; and (b) The NT PC shall take all such (d) if so, the terms of reference of measures (including, without the loan agreement? limitation, adjustments of the structure and levels of its tariffs) THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI as shall be required to produce N.K:P. SALVE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The in the financial year beginning new commercial and investment pOlicies April 1, 1993, funds from intemal of the National Thermal Power sources equivalent to not less Corporation (NTPC) require than fifteen per cent (15%) of the implementation of certain measures to annual average of the NTPC's address the issue of outstanding dues capital expenditures incurred or from the State Electricity Boards (SEBs) expected to be incurred during including the following:- the previous, current and following. financial year, and not less than (i) signing of Bulk Power Supply twenly per cent (20%) in each Agreements (BPSAs) with SEBs. financial year thereafter.

(ii) regulating power supplies by NT PC (c) The NTPC shall implement a from its power stations, wherever resettlement action plan as agreed physically and technically feasible, upon between the Bank and the in case of non-compliance with NTPC, in a timely manner. agreed financial and commercial terms including appropriate Letter (d) The NTPC shall: (i) carry out of Credit (LC). socio-economic surveys not later than December 31, 1994, to (iii) delaying new investment in a ascertain the present socio- State if it is not in compliance with economic status of persons 127 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 128

affected by the Ongoing Projects (d) whether this new 'RLL' of the NTPC; (ii) based upon such technology is also proposed to be surveys, draw up wherever introduced in Bombay and Delhi. necessary, remedial action programmes in consultation with (e) if so, the details thereof; and the Bank which have as their objective the phased restoration (f) if not, the reasons therefor? of the economic base of the persons so affecl8d; and (iii) thereafter, implement such THE MINISTER OF STATE OF remedial action programmes. THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir.

(e) The NT PC shall implement the Environmental Action Plan dated (b) This new technology proposes May 10, 1993 agreed upon to reduce or eliminate the necessity of between the Bank and the NTPC. laying underground copper cables.

(f) The NTPC shall enter into Bulk (c) It is proposed to undertake field Power Supply Agreements with trial of Radio in Local Loops. all the SEBs on regional basis, provided, however, that at least (d) and (e). It is proposed to two such Agreements shatl be undertake field trials of two different signed not later than December technologies of RLL at Calcutta, 31, 1993. Hyderabad (Andhra Pradesh), New Delhi, Bombay and Madurai (Tamil Nadu). The NTPC is in compliance of the covenants of the World Bank loan. (f) Does not arise in view of (d) and (e).

Radio Local Loop Indo-UK Relations

*18. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be *19. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Will pleased to state: the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Calcutta Telephones (a) whether India and Britain are has approached the Department of planning a new science and technology Telecommunications with a Rs. 510 crore partne~ship and bold cultural initiatives to project to introduce a new technology consolidate their relation!3; called 'Radio Local Loop (RLL),;

(b) if so, whether the relations with (b) if so, the salient features of this U.K. after the Prime Minister's visit have new technology; provided a durable foundation for cooperation in the fields of trade, (c) the reaction of the Government commerce, economy, technology and to the said proposal; culture; 129 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

(c) if so, the extent to which the characterised by mutual trust and relations between the two countries have confidence, reinforced by satisfactory improved; and cooperation in combating terrorism and by a generally positive and balanced (d) the details of the agreements British stance on J & K and Indo-Pak reached with UK during 1994-95? issues.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE A revisfld Double Taxation MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Avoidance Agreement between India and (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (d). While the UK was signed on 25 January, 1993. there is at present no specific proposal A Bilateral Investment Protection for a new Indo-UK Science and Agreement was concluded with the UK Technology Partnership, Government are on 14 March 1994. Together, the two desirous of establishing further linkages Agreements will further enhance prospects with the UK in areas of mutual interest for increased economic relations and in the field of Science and Technology, investments from the UK. through appropriate modalities of interaction including support to joint Hooghly Dock and Ports Engineers programmes at interested institutions in Ltd. the two countries. Government are also keen to impart more substance to Indo- UK relations in other fields, including *20. PROF. SUSANTA culture. The Nehru Centre, which is an CHAKRABORTY: Will the Minister of Indian cultural centre funded by ICCR, SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to has been functioning in London since state: July 1992 as a forum for Indo-British dialogue at the cultural and academic (a) whether any decision to close levels. down the Hooghly Dock and Ports Engineers Limited has been taken by the PM's visit to the UK in March 1994 Government; has ensured that the forward momentum generated over the last two years in (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Indo-UK relations will be further consolidated. The Indo-British Partnership (c) if not, the steps proposed to be Initiative (I BPI) launched by business and taken for the revival of Hooghly Dock and industry of the two countries in January Ports Engineers Ltd.? 1993, which has already achieved significant results in promoting trade and investment, was extended for another THE MINISTER OF STATE OF year during PM's visit. The UK recognises THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE that India's economic liberalisation TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): programme offers prospects for the further (a) No, Sir. enhancement of bilateral economic relations in the areas of trade, investment (b) Does not arise. and technology transfer. (c) The question whether Hooghly Indo-UK relations have developed Dock and Ports Engineers Ltd. could be significantly in a number of areas and are revived by infusing more funds or whether 131 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 132 it should be closed, is still under Society has been advised by the Advocate consideration of the Government. to first issue legal notices to them to recover the principal amount alongwith Seafarers' Welfare Fund Society interest.

1. SHRI RAM KAPSE: Will the Import of Coal Gas for Power Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Sector pleased to state: 2. SHRI RAMCHANDRA (a) whether his Ministry has sought VEERAPPA: Will the Minister of POWER the intervention of Reserve Bank of India be pleased to state: in recovering the Seafarers's Welfare Fund Society's amount deposited with (a) the names of the private sector several cooperative banks; and power project proposals which are based on import of coal/gas; (b) if so, the amount involved and the reaction of the Reserve Bank of India (b) the names of such power thereto? projects for which import of coal/gas is being considered by Government; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (c) the country from which the TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): same are proposed to be imported and (a) Yes, Sir. the likely foreign exchange outflow annually as a result thereof? (b) Rs. 9.78 crores has been invested by the Society in 10 Cooperative THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Banks. Three Cooperative Banks, wherein MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. a sum of Rs. 1.90 crores has been RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). Dabhol invested, are regularly paying interest on Power Project (2015 MW). being set up deposits. However, in the case of three in Maharashtra by Dabhol Power other Cooperative Banks wherein a sum Company (promoted by Enron of Rs. 2.14 crores has been invested, the Development Corporation, USA), is based Reserve Bank of India has precluded on import of liquified Natural Gas. Its first them from making payment in excess of phase of 695 MW is based on imported the amount specified in the directive distillate oil. The proposal has been issued by them, as these Banks are cleared from the foreign investment angle facing liquidity crunch. Further, Reserve and has also been cleared by CEA Bank of India has stated that in respect subject to certain conditions. The of the remaining four Cooperative Banks Mangalore Power Plant in Karn~taka, to wherein a sum of Rs. 5.74 crores has be put up by M/s Cogentrix. USA :s been invested, which are also facing proposed to be based on imported coal. liquidity crunch, the Society is tree to The countries from which the fuel is to take legal action against them. On be imported wiU be known only when fuel 17.5.94. the Society has already tiled a contract is signed. Fuel contract for the suit in the Bombay High Court against projects has not been finalised so far. two Cooperative Banks. For the remaining The likely foreign exchange outflow due five defaulting Cooperative Banks. the to import of the fuel would be known after 133 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 134 finalisation of the fuel contract by the Broadcasting for 1994-95 has, however, promoters of the projects. felt that the allocation being made to film Societies was inadequate. The seventh [Translation] report of the Committee, therefore, recommended that the work being done Functioning of Film Societies by the film Societies shouLd be evaluated afresh and budgetary allocations appropriately enhanced in future. Action 3. SHRI SURENDRA PAL PATHAK: is being initiated in this direction. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Condition of Culverts on National Highways in Madhya Pradesh (a) the details of the film societies functioning in the country; 4. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: Will the Minister of SURFACE (b) the reasons for not increasing TRANSPORT be pleased to state: the limit of financial assistance being provided to these societies for the last three years; (a) the routes on National Highways in Madhya Pradesh where culverts are (c) whether the financial assistance narrow and not in a good condition; given to them are inadequate as against the requirement and having adverse effect (b) the details in respect of the on the activities of the film societies; above including the measures being taken to make them traffic worthy as per the (d) if so, whether the Government prescribed norms; propose to increase grant-in-aid to these societies; and (c) the details of the roads which have been declared as National Highways (e) if so, the details thereof? in Madhya Pradesh during the last five years including 1994-95; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (d) the details of the National BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH Highways which are being repaired! DEO): (a) The information is being improved during the above period in the collected and will be laid on the Table State? of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) to (e). No request/proposal THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE either regarding inadequacy of the grant- TRANSPORT (SHAI JAGDISH TYTLER): in-aid (Rs. 3.00 lakhs annually) presently (a) and (b). The improvement activity being given or for the increase thereof including widening of narrow culverts on has been received from the Central Body National Highways is a continuous i.e. Federation of Film Societies of India. process. These improvement works are The Standing Committee on Communi- undertaken in a phased manner cations while examining the demand for depending upon availability of funds and grants of the Ministry of Information and inter-se priority etc. 135 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 136

(c) Nil. (b) the locations thereof and the expenditure incurred thereon; (d) All National Highways are kept in traffic worthy condition through repair! (c) the number of TV transmitters improvement within the 3vailable funds. and Akashvani stations likely to be set up in Rajasthan during 1994-95 along Copper Galvanising Plant with the capacity and locations thereof;

5. SHRI VISHWESHWAR BHAGAT: (d) the amount earmarked for the Will the Minister of MINES be pleased said purpose; to state: (e) whether Rajasthan is (a) whether the Government comparatively backward in comparison propose to set up new copper galavanising with other States in respect of information plants in the country; and broadcasting media point of view; and (b) whether the Government have sought Japanese assistance for setting (f) if so, the measures proposed to up a copper galvanising plant in be taken by the Government in this Malanjkhand in Balaghat district (MP); regard during the Eighth Plan period? and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) if so, the likely time of completion THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND of this project? BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) and (b). During 1993-94, a THE MINISTER OF STATE OF high power TV (10 KW) transmitter at THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI Bundi in the State of Rajasthan was set BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) up at a capital cost of Rs. 368.19 lakhs. Beside, an LPT at Jaipur, for relay of Government does not propose to set up a copper galvanising plant. metro services, LPTs at Gangapur, Sujangarh, Sridungargarh, Ratangarh, Bhadra and Basava and Very Low Power (b) and (c). Does not arise. Transmitters at Chamohala, Deogarh and Kumbhalgarh were commissioned. Interim TV Transmitters and AIR Stations HPT set up (1 KW) at Barmer and 10 in Rajasthan KW HPT at Jaisalmer were made technically ready. A total expenditure of Rs. 2005.54 lakhs was incurred. S. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: Will tne Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: During this period, one 2 x 5 KW FM Transmitter of AIR at Jaisalmer was (a) the number of TV transmitters commissioned at a cost of Rs. 389 lakhs. and Akashvani stations set up in Rajasthan during 1993-94 and the (c) and (d). As given in the attached capacity thereof; Statement. 137 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23.1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

(e) and (f). No, Sir. However, with (from 10 KW MW to 2 x 10 KW MW) a view to further improve the services in and replacement scheme at Jodhpur Rajasthan, Doordarshan has envisaged (from 1 KW MW to 2 x 3 KW FM to set up 5 HPTs, 15 LPTs and 7 VLPTs Transmitter) . in the State. Similarly, AIR has schemes to set up one New Radio Station at Further, Press Information Bureau Mt. Abu, one 50 KW SW Transmitter at has plan to set up its branch at Udaipur, Jaipur, upgradation scheme at Udaipur during 8th Plan period.

STATEMENT

Details showing location, capacity and expenditure in respect of TV and AIR Transmitters to be set up during the year 1994-95

Location Capacity Amount Earmarked for 1994-95 (in Lakhs)

Doordarshan

LPTs

Baran 100 W 28.20

Barisadri 100 W 28.20

Hindaun 100 W 28.20

Rawatsar 100 W 28.20

Makrane 100 W 33.95

Karauli 100 W 33.95

Phalodi 100 W 33.95

Rajgarh (Churu) 100 W 33.95

Mt. Abu 100 W 33.95

Pratapgarh 100 W 33.95

Nohar 300 W 33.70

Nokha 100 W 33.70

Shahpura 100 W 33,70 139 Written AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 140

Location Capacity Amount Earmarked for 1994-95. "(in Lakhs)

Chirawa 100 W NIL

VlPTS

Amet 10 W 17.30

Fatehpur 10 W 17.30

Gangapur 10 W 17.30

Laxmangarh 10 W 2.50

Bhim 10 W 17.30

Rajgarh (Alwar) 10 W 17.30

Lalsot 10 W 17.30

All India Radio

Mount Abu 2x3KWFM 17.93

{English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (d). The Steel Plant in Bastar Central Govemment do not propose to set up new iron and steel units. Under 7. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA the New Industrial Policy announced in VARMA: Will the Minister of STEEL be July, '91 "iron and steel" has been pleased to state: removed from the list of industries reserved for the public sector, and also (a) whether a proposal to set up exempted from the requirements of three steel plants in Bastar district of compulsory licensing except for certain Madhya' Pradesh had been scrapped; locational restrictions. No industrial licence is, therefore, required for .setting up iron and steel units, and it is upto individual (b) if so, the reasons therefor; entrepreneurs to pursue their projects. However, according to information (c) whether the Government available at present MIs. Mukand Limited propose to reconsider these proposals; and MIs. S.M. Iron and Steel Industries and Limited have indicated interest in setting up a steel plant each in Bastar district (d) if so, the details thereof? of Madhya Pradesh. 141 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 142

[Translation] tum telephone connections sanctioned by his Ministry to M.Ps. during last three Realignment of the Route of years? National Highway No. 27 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 8. SHRI BHEEM SINGH PATEL: (SHRI SUKH RAM): Sir, the required Will the Minister of SURFACE information is being collected and shall TRANSPORT be pleased to state: be placed on the Table of the House shortly. (a) whether Government have received a proposal/demand for {English] realignment of the route of National Highway No. 27 by diverting it from Shivmandir of Sohaga Pahari and for Price Rise in Aluminium Industry linking it to the Tayodhar in Riwa district of Madhya Pradesh; 10. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: (b) the reaction of the Govemment thereto; (a) whether the LME price of aluminium has increased considerably (c) whether any study/survey has since January, 1994; been conducted or proposed to be conducted to assess the feasibility and (b) whether increased exports by cost of this project; and domestic producers has created an acute shortage of aluminium in the country; and (d) if so, the details thereof? (c) the steps proposed to be taken THE MINISTER OF STATE OF by the Government to encourage THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE domestic aluminium producers to cater to TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): the needs of domestic industrial units? (a) to (d). Perhaps Hon'ble member has in view the demand of Nagar Vyopar THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Mandai, Tyonthar, District Riwa in this THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI regard. Comments of State Government SALAAM SINGH YADAV): (a) The thereon have been called, which have London Metal Exchange (LME) price of not yet been received. Further action can Aluminium has risen to an average of be initiated only after receipt of firm U.S. $ 1350 in May, 1994 from an proposal from the State Govemment. average of U.S. $1192 in January, 1994.

Out of Turn Telephone Connections (b) No, Sir.

9. SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA (c) Domestic Industrial Units are MUNDA: Will the Minister of free to obtain their requirel'l"ent of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state Aluminium from Indigenous Prodycers or the category-wise total number of out of by imports as Aluminium is on Open 143 Written Answe~ JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 144

General Licence (OGL) under the extant congestion in the network. However, Import a:1d Export Policy. steps are being taken to increase the number of junctions between the Telephones in South Delhi exchanges. Also strict instructions have been issued to monitor the performance on a continuous basis and action is being 11. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR taken to maintain the quality of telephone SHASTRI: Will the Minister of services. COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the telephones in South (d) Yes Sir. Delhi go dead imd become operational on its own every now and then; (e) Complaints received as well as performance of all telephone exchanges (b) whether numbers dialled from in Delhi is regularly being monitored and Barakhamba Road, Mayur Vihar etc. io corrective action wherever required is South Delhi like R.K. Puram, it is difficult being taken speedily. to get the number and always the message is coming that "the line of this Power Purchase Agreement route are busy";

12. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the (c) if so, the reasons therefor and Minister of POWER be pleased to state: the steps taken/proposed to be taken to check the deteriorating telephone services in Delhi; (a) the details of the main clauses of the power purchase agreement (d) whether the attention of the between the Maharashtra State Electricity Govemment has been drawn to the news Board and the US based ENRON item captioned "Telephones"; Development Corporation;

"No treatment for this headache" (b) Whether this agreement has the and "M.T.N.L. of Bills ...... and Bells approval of the Union Government; ...... " appearing in the '' dated May 27 and 9, 1994 (c) if so, the details thereof; and respectively; and

(d) if not, the reasons therefor? (e) if so, the facts thereof and the action taken thereon? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) The main THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS features of the agreement are as follows:- (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). Sir, due to large scale expansions carried out in Delhi on account of heavy traffic (i) Phase I comprises 695 MW of a generated during busy hours, difficulty two phase combined cycle power could be experienced by customers in station. Phase II will comprise putting through their calls due to 1320 MW. 145 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

(ii) Phase I will be fuelled by No. 2 (b) if so, the details in this regard; distillate fuel oil. After phase II, and both Phase I and II will be fuelled by LNG. (c) the steps taken by the Govemment to accord approval to this (iii) Capital cost of Phase I is US proposal? dollars 910 Million which includes a port and fuel facility, the costs THE MINISTER OF STATE OF of associated infrastructure being THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING constructed by Government of INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): Maharashtra and MSEB such as (a) The Indian Institute of Packaging has roads, water etc. and Interest informed that no formal request has been During Construction. received from the Government of Gujarat to open a branch. (iv) Construction of Phase I is estimated to start after financial (b) and (c). Does not arise. closure which is targetted for July/ August, 1994 and the plant is Voluntary Retirement Scheme in estimated to come on stream 33 DTC months later in March, 1997. Bechtel will be the main civil contractors and GE (USA) the 14. SHRI AMAL DAnA: Will the main equipment supplier. Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (v) Planned debt equity ratio for Phase I is 70:30. (a) whether the Delhi Transport Corporation has started a Volunatry (vi) PPA, provides sufficient flexibility Retirement Scheme; regarding the initiation of Phase- II, Phase-II is decoupled from (b) if so, when it was introduced; Phase-I without any legal binding on either party. (c) the number of persons in each category who have applied for the above (b) to (d). Power Purchase scheme and the number of persons Agreement (PPA) .is under examination. given voluntary retirement on their request, year-wise during the last three Indian Institute of Packaging years; and

13. DR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the (d) the number of persons in each Minister of FOOD PROCESSING category who have applied more than INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: once for voluntary retirement but were denied the same ~ar-wise; and the (a) whether the State Government reasons therefor? of Gujarat has made any request to the Union Government to set up a unit of THEMINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Indian Institute of Packaging in MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT GUjara!; (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). 147 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 148 The Voluntary Retirement Scheme was provIsions of the Voluntary Retirement introduced in DTC in March, 1993. Scheme, the D.T.C. management is empowered not to grant .Voluntary (c) Details are at Statement -I Retirement to any of its employees in the (d) Details of such persons are at interest of the functioning of the Statement-II. In accordance with the Corporation.

STATEMENT I

Category 1993 1994

No. of Requests No. of Requests workers Accepted workers accepted applied applied for for VRS VRS

Conductors 1341 1111 42 27

Drivers 1613 883

W/Shop 1146 923 163 110 Class-IV

Ministerial 709 596 23 14 Staff

Traffic Suprv. 1248 788

Officers 80 37 23 4

Total 6137 4338 251 155

STATEMENT-II

Number of persons who have applied more than once for Voluntary Retirement but were denied the same, year wise

Category 1993-94 1994-95 (upto May, 1994)

Conductors 26 Nil

Drivers 435 Nil

W/Shop & Class-IV 83 Nil 149 Written AnswElrs JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 150

Category 1993-94 1994-95 (upto May, 1994)

Ministerial Staff 43 Nil

Traffic Suprv. Staff 51 Nil

Officers 16 Nil

654 Nil

ISD/STDIPCOs in Andhra Pradesh (a) the places in Delhi and Uttar Pradesh where new automatic telephone 15. SHRI DATTATRAYA exchanges are proposed to be set up BANDARU: Will the Minister of during 1994-95 with capacity of each of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: the exchange;

(a) the number of applications (b) whether telephone, system in received for allotment of ISD/STD/PCO Yaranasi and Gorakhpur divisions is booths in Andhra Pradesh during 1992- functioning properly and if not, the steps 93 and ~993-94, district wise; taken in this regard; and

(b) the number of applications (c) the number of persons in the disposed of during the said period and waiting list for telephones in Paschim the number of booths allotted so far; and Yihar in Delhi during 1993 (till 30th December 1993) and the number of (c) the time by which the remaining persons likely to remain in the waiting list applications are likely to be disposed of? during 1994-95 (on 30th December 1994) and the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). the THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS information is being collected and will be (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Places in Delhi laid on the Table of the House. and Uttar Pradesh where new automatic telephone exchanges are proposed to be [Translation] set up during 94-95, are indicated in the attached Statement. Automatic Telephone Exchanges in Delhi and Uttar Pradesh (b) Yes Sir, telephone system in Yaranasi and Gorakhpur are working 16. SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Will satisfactorily except one old strowger the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be exchange at Yaranasi which is planned pleased to state: to be replaced. 151 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 152

(c\ Persons in the waiting list for and it is expected to wipe out the entire ·:18 teiephone were 11,310 on 31.12.1993 waiting list during 94-95.

STATEMENT

Uttar Pradesh

Meerut 10,000 lines

Ghaziabad 10,000 lines

Allahabad 10,000 lines

lucknow 10,000 lines

Ganga Nagar (Meerut) 1,000 lines

Shatabdi Nagar (do) 1,000 lines

Shardhapuri (do) 1,000 lines

ShuKlaganj (Unna) 1,000 lines

Ratan Lal Nagar (Kanpur) 2,000 lines

Cantt. (Varanasi) 2,000 lines

Manduadeeh (do) 1,000 lines

SanJay Nagar (do) 1,000 lines

Brij Enclave (do) 1,000 lines

Allahpur (Allahabad) 2,000 lines

Bareilly 4,000 lines

Transport Nagar (Gorakhpur) 1,000 lines

Raebareli 2,048 lines

Delhi -_

Bhikaji Cama Place 30,000 lines

Vasant Vihar 15,000 lines 153 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

Vasant Kunj 10,000 lines

Nehru Place 20,000 lines

Hauzkhas 10,000 lines

Okhla (Axe-1O) 10,000 lines

Sarita Vihar 20,000 lines

Tughlakabad 10,000 lines

Okhla (OCBE-283) 20,000 lines

Tekhand 8,000 lines

Idgah 27,000 lines

Tis Hazari 10,000 lines

Lothian Road 15,000 lines

Lakshmi Nagar 10,000 lines

Mayur Vihar Phase-II 20,000 lines

Shahadara 10,000 lines

Karkardooma 25,000 lines

Yamuna Vihar 22,000 lines

Jor Bagh 13,000 lines

Jawahar Lal Nehru Marg 8,000 lines

Rajpath 10,000 lines

Janpath 8,000 lines

Najatgarh 5,000 lines

Paschim Vihar 13,000 lines

Janakpuri 15,000 lines

Nangloi 13,000 lines 155 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 156 Rajouri Garden 35,000 lines

Hari Nagar 16,000 lines

Keshav Puram 10,000 lines

Shakti Nagar 10,000 lines

Saraswati Vihar 25,000 lines

Rohini Sector Vi 25,000 lines

Jaipur House (Agra) 2,000 lines

Sanjay Nagar (Agra) 5,000 lines

Transport Nagar (Agra) 2,000 lines

C.T.O. Compound (do) 2,000 lines

Modinagar (Gbd) 2,000 lines

Rajendra Nagar (Gbd) 2,000 lines

Pratap Nagar (Gbd) 1,000 lines

Faizabad 2,048 lines

Gom!i Nagar (Lkw) 2.000 lines

Jankipuram (Lkw) 1,000 lines

Indra Nagar (Lkw) 5.000 lines

• In addition to these new exchanges about 60 (sixty) more small capacity new telephone eXChanges are expected to be commissioned at different places in U.P. as per requirement.

[English] (a) the number of Song and Drama Division units set up in and their Song and Drama Division Units in locations; Assam. (b) the number of shows presented by each of these units during 1993-94; 17. SHRI PROBIN DEKA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (c) the annual expenditure being BROADCASTING be pleased to state: incurred on each of these units; 157 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 158 (d) whether any review has been always kept in view while preparing and made with regard to the response by the presenting the programmes. general public; (f) and (g). There is no such (e) if so, the details thereof; proposal at present.

(f) if not, whether the Govemment [Translation] propose to make a review of the functioning of Ihese units; and Power Stations

(g) if so, the details thereof? 18. SHRI LALL BABU RAI: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH (a) whether the performance of DEO): (a) There is one regional centre existing power stations is satisfactory; of Song and Drama Division in Assam which is located at Guwahati. Under this (b) if so, the deta";: thereof; and regional centre, there are two border centres at Guwahati and Imphal. (c) the State-wise details of the performance of these !"lower stations for (b) Song and Drama Division units the last three years? presented 322 shows during 1993-94 in Assam. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.v. (e) The total expenditure incurred RANGA YYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). A by the regional centre and its two border Statement showing Plant Load Factor units during the year 1993-94 was (PLF) of existing power stations, station- Rs. 84.40 lakhs. wise, state-wise during last three years is enclosed. In the last 3 years the All (d) and (e). While no formal review India PLF has risen from 55.3% to 61 %. has been made, the public response is This is considered satisfactory.

STATEMENT

Name of the Statel Plant Load Factor (%) System/Station. 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

DELHI

Indraprastha 60.8 57.1 47.2 Rajghat 49.5 47.8 52.5 DESU 57.11 54.0 49.0 Badarpur 64.2 74.1 71.9 Delhi 61.5 66.7 63.4 159 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 160

Name of the Statel Plant Load Factor (%) System/Station 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

HARYANA

Faridabad Extn. 56.6 61.9 51.1 Panipat 43.2 46.9 37.5 HSEB 45.9 49.9 40.3 Haryana 46.9 50.2 41.3

RAJASTHAN

Kota 66.3 76.9 81.1 RSEB 66.3 76.9 81.1

PUNJAB

Bhatinda 49.8 59.8 70.7 Ropar 54.5 57.9 60.6 Punjab 52.8 58.5 63.5

UTTAR PRADC:SH

Obra 50.6 55.6 51.0 Panki 15.6 26.8 34.6 Harduaganj 'A' Harduaganj 'B' and 'C' 21.3 26.9 29.7 Paricha 29.5 38.0 39.0 Anpara 72.0 74.5 75.8 Tanda 23.3 31.6 30.6 UPSEB 44.4 50.5 50.1 National Thermal Power 77.9 75.2 81.5 Station (Singrauli) Rihand 74.2 73.9 78.0 Dadri 73.1 NTPC Unchahar 55.0 68.8 Uttar Pradesh 59.1 61.9 65.4

GUJARAT

Dhuvaran 63.6 58.4 50.6 Ukai 57.4 58.2 56.0 Gandhi Nagar 63.5 69.5 68.1 Wanakbori 52.7 63.0 64.8 Sikka 53.5 61.5 54.6 Kutch Ugn. 47.5 45.5 54.5 161 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

Name of the State/ Plant Load Factor (%) System/Station 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

GEB 57.0 61.6 60.4 A.E. Company 49.7 35.0 38.4 Sabarmati 69.5 66.1 70.8 Gujarat Pvt. 67.2 62.5 67.0 Gujarat 58.0 61.7 61.0

MAHARASHTRA

Nasik 60.6 62.7 63.4 Koradi 63.7 64.2 66.1 Paras 61.9 50.9 51.4 Bhusawal 65.1 71.2 60.8 Pani 42.5 36.4 52.5 Chandrapur 68.9 62.4 67.3 K. Khada 68.0 63.1 n.3 MSEB 61.3 59.7 64.1 Trombay 53.8 54.3 48.8 Maharashtra 59.4 58.5 60.7

MADHYA PRADESH

Satpura 43.6 46.4 50.7 Korba 41.6 45.5 49.8 Amarkantak 40.6 48.7 53.6 Korba West 63.2 65.6 67.2 MPEB 49.4 52.5 56.0 NTPC Korba 70.8 70.3 n.B NTPC Vindhyachal 69.5 57.1 75.2 Madhya Pradesh 60.7 59.7 67.7

ANOHRA PRADESH

Kothagudam 50.5 53..4 55.6 Vijayawada 72.5 n.o 80.3 Ramagundam B 56.5 39.8 65.9 Neliore 45.2 39.6 42.6 APSES 62.1 65.0 68.7 NTPC Ramagundam 61.4 67.3 79.3 Andhra Pradesh 61.7 66.3 74.7 163 Written Answeni JUNE 13. 1994 Written Answers 164

Name of the Statel Plant Load Factor (%) System/Station 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

KARNATAKA

Raichur 59.1 49.4 66.9

TAMIL NADU

Ennore 47.6 52.0 47.1 Tuticorin 70.1 76.0 73.8 Mettur 48.5 64.2 76.4 TNEB 55.4 65.2 69.1 Neyveli 66.8 56.5 55.5 Tamil Nadu 60.1 61.2 62.6

BIHAR

Patratu 19.7 27.9 27.5 Barauni 19.6 21.3 18.4 Muzaffarpur 28.8 20.5 21.9 Bihar 21.3 25.2 24.4

ORISSA

Talchar 30.2 34.5 35.6 IB Valley

WEST BENGAL

Bandel 44.0 27.1 48.3 Santhaldih 15.9 35.5 31.8 WBSEB 30.7 31.1 40.5 Kolaghat (WBP. Dv.C) 61.1 58.1 68.2 Durgapur Project Umited 17.3 28.9 26.3 Calcutta Electric Supply Company 58.3 67.5 71.3 NTPC Farakka 60.6 67.0 64.6 West Bengal 46.0 49.0 55.0 165 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

Name of the State/ Plant Load Factor (%) System/Station 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

DAMODAR VALLEY CORPORATION

Chandrapur 29.7 29.5 34.4 Durgapur 34.1 27.7 53.6 Bokaro 40.5 38.5 46.0 Damodar Valley Corporation 33.6 42.3

ASSAM

Chandrapur 45.5 26.1 20.0 Namrup 28.6 30.5 23.8 Bongaigaon 18.9 21.8 14.8 Gas Turbine 20.4 21.3 28.3 Assam 24.7 24.3 19.9

ALL INDIA 55.3 57.1 61.0

[English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): Seminar on Traffic and (a) Yes, Sir. Transportation (b) The important recommendations 19. SHRI ASHOK ANANDRAO are given in the Statement enclosed. DESHMUKH: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to (c) Does not arise at this stage. state: STATEMENT

(a) whether a seminar was 1. Since the gestation period for organised on April 9, 1994 on Traffic and the MRTS is a lengthy on a simultaneous Transportation in Delhi; development of the surface railway network comprising the Ring Railway and its radials be reenergised. Alongwith DTC (b) if so, the main suggestions feeder bus services it would considerably made in the seminar; and reduce pressure on the roads.

(c) the time by which these 2. Master Plan for Delhi be updated suggestions are likely to be implemented? upto 2010 A.D. 167 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 168

3. Prioritisation of MRTS- 11. NGOs/private citizens underground and surface is essential. involvement in traffic discipline is necessary. 4. Physical and financial planning of MRTS be studied in details by 12. Land use pattern and policies comparing it with other system of MRTS be reconsidered. in different parts of the world.

13. Besides, MRTS and integrated 5. Till MRTS and large projects are freight complexes, new terminals etc. executed, short term measures like timely short term measures be studied, finalised repair of roads, proper singns/sign boards, and action taken so that existing proper lighting at intersections, removal infrastructure is optimally utilised. of small obstructions like light poles etc. should be applied. 14. Studies may be conducted so. 6. Appropriate synchronisation of that the road based existing infrastructure Delhi lights and lane discipline be enfon:ed. is optimally utilised by phasing out slow Traffic control especially at busy moving pollutant factor modes of transport. intersections be managed by installation of close T.V. circuit system. Pending Hydel Projects of U.P.

7. Removal of obstructions on the 20. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN footpaths within a given time frame. CHANDRA KHANDURI: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 8. Battery powered bus can be useful for congested areas like walled (a) whether a number of Hydel city of Delhi, Karol Bagh and Old Projects of Uttar Pradesh are pending for Shahdara etc. clearance;

9. Important prospects namely, (b) if so, the details thereof; IFDM at Gazipur, Narela, Dwarka, and Madanpur Khadar; Passenger railway terminals at Anand Vihar, Narela. Dwarka (c) whether Vishnu Prayag Hydel and Tughlakabad; ISBTs at Anand Vihar, Project has also been pending with the Narela, Dwarka, Tughlakabad and Sarai Union Govemment; Kale Khan; second entry to DeIhl main junction and New Delhi Railway Station (d) whether MOU and DPR have should be executed and for this, there been provided to the Union Govemment should be high level coordination with regarding this project; officers of DDA, Delhi Govt., Ministry of Surface Transport, NGOs and DTTG etc. (e)" whether the selection of executing agency (ICS) has been carried 10. Construction of outer to outer out as per specified norms; ring road/expressway should be started. The cost of the project being huge, involvement of private sector and (f) whether these have been providing them incentives be considered. scrutinised and found satisfactory; and 169 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 (g) the time by which the work is {Translation] likely to be started on this hydel project? India's Membership to UNSC THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. 21. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). The SINGH: Will the Minis~er of EXTERNAL following Hydro-electric schemes are being AFFAIRS be pleased to state: examined in Central Electricity Authority in consultation with the project authorities: (a) whether US have supported permanent membership to India in the Installed Capacity Security Council of United Nations (MW) Organisation;

1. Gori Ganga St. III 140 (b) if so, the details thereof; and 2. Bowala Nand Prayag 132 (c) the efforts being made by the 3. Tapovan Vishungad 360 Government to get the membership and the number of countries in favour of 4. Vishnu Prayag 400 India?

(d) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (e) and (f). Govemment of Uttar (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). India took Pradesh took a policy decision to entrust the initiative in 1992 in sponsoring the some new generating projects already resolution 47/62 entitled "Question of identified for private sector, Vishnu Prayag equitable representation on and increase Hydro-electric Project was under the in the membership of Security Council", starting stage of construction but the which was adopted by consensus. construction work was stopped due to Similarly, India played a key role in the paucity of funds. Therefore, proposals adoption of a follow-up resolution 48126 were invited from private entrepreneurs in 1993. In pursuance of this resolution for executing the project. The offers an open-ended Working Group of the received were scrutinised and placed UNGA has been established to conSider before a Committee formed under the all aspects of the question of an increase chairmanship of Chief Secretary, in the membership of the Security Council, Government of Uttar Pradesh. The and other matters related to the Council. Committee held discussions with the The question of membership of individual representatives of the entrepreneurs and countries is not being discussed at this selected the suitable firm for execution stage in the Working Group. of the project. Telephone Exchanges on (9) Work on Vishnu Prayag Hydro- Commission Basis electric Project will start after clearance from Central Electricity Authority and 22. SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: Will signing of power purchase agreement the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be with Mis. Jaiprakash Industries Limited. pleased to state: 171 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 172 (a) whether the Government have building or in the adjoining multi-storeyed introduced any scheme to allow setting buildings within a distance of 500 metres. up of Telephone Exchanges on EPABXs for non-multi-stoieyed buildings commission basis; and located within a private compound having well defined limits with a peripheral wall (b) if so, the details and objectives or fence will also be permitted. thereof? 4. Applicant can be any individual THE MINISTER OF STATE OF or a firm or company or cooperative THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS society or group housing society or owner (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. of the building itself. Government have decided to allow group EPABXs to be run by Private companies! 5. Outgoing junctions from the individuals in multi storeyed buildings EPABX will be provided on out-ot-turn under franchise scheme on commission priority basis under N-OYT -General cate- basis. gory security deposit of Rs. 5,0001- per junction line will be charged. (b) The details of the scheme are fumished in the enclosed Statement. 6. Rental charges for junction lines STATEMENT as per DOT rates will be levied with no free calls. Calls will be charged It has been decided now to permit @ Rs. 1.25 per call unit registered in the private operators to install, maintain exchanges meter. and operate indialling EPABXs under franchise to supplement the efforts of 7. Annual licence fee for privately the Department of Telecom in owned PABXs prescribed by DOT from providing felecom facilities to the time to time will be charged from the public. licencee.

The salient features of this scheme 8. On every outgoing junction, a are as under: commission of 20 paise per call unit upto 10,000 calis, 15 paise per call unit 1 . Application for licence under this between 10,000 to 20,000 calls and .10 scheme can be registered with local paise per call unit beyond 20,000 calls telecom authority on payment of made during the period of one month will Rs. 1,0001- (non-refundable) accompanied be paid to the licencee. with specifications of the service proposed to be provided to users. 9. Licencee will be authorised to 2. Only Electronic PABXs with charge from the extension users a minimum capacity of 128 ports and monthly rental upto a maximum of maximum of 1024 ports and interface Rs. 100/-. approved by DOT will be permitted under this scheme. 10. Extension users are not entitled for any free calls against the monthly 3. Extensions from such EPABXs rental and will be charged @ Rs. 1.25 will be allowed within a multistoreyed per call unit at flat rate without any slabs. 173 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 174

11. Licencee can collect as (b) the total investment proposed registration charges from the intending to be made by entrepreneurs in the users upto a maximum of Rs. 1,000 setting up of baby food processing plants (non-interest bearing) to be adjusted in in Uttar Pradesh in 1994-95? security deposit at the time of provision of telephone. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING 12. Licencee can collect a security INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): deposit upto a maximum of Rs. 2500/- (a) While there are four plants in UP initially subject to revision in the second which are capable of manufacturing Baby and third month depending upon the Food, only two are manufacturing Baby previous month's bill. After three months, Food. the security deposit will be twice the average monthly bill subject to a minimum (b) Since delicensing of milk of Rs. 25001- or any lesser amount that products industry, 36 IEMs have been the licencee may like to charge. received from UP which contain intention to produce Baby Food besides other milk 13. Licencee will be allowed to products. As per available information, charge additional facilities like plug and one project with an investment of socket, plan instruments etc. at DOT Rs. 9.95 crores has been implemented. rates. [English] 14. Extension users will be permitted to use attachments like Cordless Athreya Committee Telephones, FAX, Modem etc. on payment of prescribed licencee fee for 24. SHRI LOKANATH these attachments in the DOT network. CHOUDHURY: 10% of the revenue of licencee fee shall SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: be paid to the licencee of EPABX. Will the Minister of 15. Installation charges will be upto COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: a maximum of Rs. 800/- Extension user will be allowed a rebate in installation (a) whether the Government have charges at DOT rates if he opts to use considered the recommendations of his own instrument and arrange his own Athreya Committee; internal wiring. (b) if so, the details thereof; Baby Food Processing Plants (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and 23. DR. SAKSHIJI: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (d) the time by which it is likely to be pleased to state: be implemented?

(a) The details of the milk plants THE MINISTER OF STATE OF processing baby food in Uttar Pradesh; THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (d). The 175 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 176 recommendations of the Athreya TV Transmitters in Nainital and Committee were considered by the Garhwal Government and the same stand disposed in the light of the new Telecom Policy. 26. SHRI BAlRAJ PASSI: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: [Translation]

(a) the number of low power and Export of Prawn high power TV transmitters functioning at present in districts Nainital an Garhwal of Uttar Pradesh, separately; 25. SHRI RAJENDRA KUMAR SHARMA: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased (b) whether these transmitters are to state: sufficient for the population of these districts;

(a) the number of proposals (c) if not, whether the Government received annually by the Government tor propose to set up more TV transmitters setting up prawn processing units during in these districts; and the last three years; (d) if so, the locations and the time (b) the number of proposals pending by which these are likely to be set up? with the union Government; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (c) the steps being taken for their BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH early clearance? DEO): (a) Four low power TV transmitter (LPT)/very low power transmitters (VLPTs) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF in Nainital district and one lPT and THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING transposer in Garhwal district are presently INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): in operation. (a) Approvai of the Govemment is not needed for setting up of prawn processing (b) No, Sir. units. However the units are required to be registered with the Marine Products (c) Yes, Sir. Export Development Authority after establishment. During the year 1991-92, (d) An LPT at Kotdwar in Garhwal 1992-93 and 1993-94 16, 31 and 32 district has been made technically ready. units were registered in various States. Besides, two VlPTs one each at Lansdown and Kaljikhal in Garhwal district (b) No proposal for registration is and a low power transmitter (in replacement of the existing VLPT) at pending with the Marine Products Export Development Authority for according Haldwani in Nainital district,' are under registration. implementation. They are expected to be commissioned during 1994-95 subject to the availability of infrastructural facilities (c) Does not arise. required for the purpose. 1 n Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Writtp,n Answers 178

{English] (c) the time by which the said offices are likely to be commissioned? SUb-post Offices in Orissa

27. SHRI ARJUN CHARAN SETHI: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (SHRI SUKH RAM):' (a) to (c). DUring 1993-94, the Government have (a) whether the Government have sanctioned 42 extra-departmental branch finally sanctioned the ED Branch Post post offices and 4 departmental sub post Offices and Sub-Post offices in the State offices in the State of Orissa. Toe district- of Orissa during the 1993-94 by now; wise details with locations are given in (b) if so, the details with locations the Statement enclosed. All these post thereof, district-wise; and offices have been opened by 31.3.1994.

STATEMENT

Details of post offices sanctioned during 1993-94 in the State of Orissa, district-wise and category-wise

51. Name of Name of extra Name of No. District departmental departmental sub- branch post post office office

2 3 4

1. Angul Arikili Deepasikha (NTPC Kaniha) 2. Bhadrak Badanuagaon 3. Cultak Kalyanpur Nuagaon 4. Dhenkanal Baligorada 5. Ganjam Tahar Kumaripari 6. Jajpur Chitalo 7. Kendrapara Dera Lemalo 8. Kalahandi Birikote Badabafal Malkandel Sirmaska Kanderi Ranidumer Boden 9. Khurda Dumduma Housing Colony 179 Written Answers JUNE 13,1994 Written Answers 180

1 2 3 4

10. Koraput Chipakhar Sodabari Aunli

11 . Keonjhar Raighati Purujoda Jadichatar Silitia

12. Mayurbhanj Salgaon Raghbpur Barehipalli Begunia.

13. Nowarngpur Kumuli Dolabeda Chatiguda Parchipada

14. Nayagarh Similishahi

15. Phulbani Luising Pokari Tekangia Kajuri Martanga Majhipada

16. Puri Sirei

17. Sambalpur Talsara Nuadihi

18. Sundargarh Chikatmati Sankraposh

Demands ot Pay-Phone Operators. (b) if so, the details thereof and the action taken by the Government in this regard; 28. SHRI CHANDRESH PATEL: Will the Minister of COMMUNiCATIONS be pleased to state: (c) whether any Conference of Pay-Phone Operators was held on (a) whether the Government have 30-4-1994 and 1-5-1994 at Mavalankar received any Memorandums from 'All Hall Auditorium, Rafi Marg, New Delhi. India Pay-Phone Operators' Welfare Association (Regd.), Delhi recently as well as during 1-1-1993 to 3Q-4-1994; (d) if so, the details thereof; 181 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 182

(e) the details of the decision~ (a) whether Prime Minister, during taken and Resolutions passed, and his visit to USA, invited NRls and foreign companies to make investments in the (I) the acllon taken by the power sector in India; Government for their implementation and the outcome thereto? (b) whether any offers for investments in pov.oer sector have been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF. received from them in response to that THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS invitation; and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. During the month of Jan. 1994, a memorandum (c) the details thereof? was received from 'All India Pay-Phone Operators' Welfare Association (Regd.), Delhi. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P. V. (b) The issues raised in the RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) Yes, Sir. Memorandum are:- (b) and (c). As on date, proposals (i) The demand of the MTNL for have beeh received from US based additional security deposit from Private companies for setting up of 22 the STD PCO franchisees is Power projects for a total capacity addition unjust; of 11589 MW costing approx. Rs. 38122 crores. (ii) Interest should be paid on the security deposit held by MTNL; Steel Plant at Vijayanagar and 30. SHRI C.P. MUDALA (iii) Supply of computerised bills! GIRIYAPPA: Will the Minister of STEEL print-outs to franchisees. be pleased to stale:

These demands were considered. (a} whether the Government In so far as (i) and (ii) are concerned, propose to raise resources for the setting they are under consideration of Govt. up of a Steel Plant at Vijayanagar; and in respect of (iii), instructions have already been issued to supply (b) if so, the details thereof; and computerised bills/print-outs to franchisees on demand. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) Gov!. is not aware of any such conference of Pay-Phone Operator. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI (d) to (f). Do not arise. SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): (a) to (c). No, Sir. The Central Government has no Foreign Companies in Power Sector proposal to raise resources for the setting up of a Steel Plant at Vijayanagar. The 29. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Central Government share holding in Will the Minister of POWER be pleased Vijayanagar Steel Limited alongwith to state: assets, liabilities and land have been 183 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 184 transferred to the State Government of (b) These OBs are pending due 10 Karnataka to facilititate the efforts of the technical non-feasibililies of the areas for State Government to set up a Steel Plant which cables are being laid to make the at Vijayanagar. areas feasible. The connections are likely to be given by September, 1994. [Translation} [English] Telepho~e Connectio'ls in U.P. New Doordarshan/AIR Stations 31. SHRI PANKAJ CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 32. SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: be pleased to state: Wil1 the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (a) the number of cases in Gorakhpur of Uttar Pradesh where telephone connections have been sanctioned and (a) the details of the new O.B. numbers issued but connections have Doordarshan and AIR stations set up not been given so far: and during the last six months; and

(b) the reasons therefor and the (b) the capacity of each of the time by which such cases are likely to Doordarshan/AIR stations set up and tMe be finalised? amount spent thereon?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Sir, A total of BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH 168 cases for which OBs have been DEO): (a) and (b). As given in the issued are pending installation. Statement enclosed.

STATEMENT

List of Doordarshan and AIR stations set up during the last six months along With their capacity and amount spent thereon

Location Scheme Expenditure upto March, 1994. (Figures in Rs. lakhs)

2 3

DOORDARSHAN

1 . William Nagar LPT 100W 52.16 (Meghalaya)

2. Siddipet (A.P.) LPT 100W 52.33 185 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

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3. Kamakhya Nagar LPT 100W 7.08 (Orissa)

4. Deogarh (Orissa) LPT 100W 14.34

5. Navrangpur (Orissa) LPT 100W 9.77

6. Padampur (Orissa) LPT 100W 14.79

7. Padampuram (Orissa) LPT 100W

8. Atmakur (A.P.) LPT 300W 72.21

9. Bhuj (interim) 1 KW (Guj.) HPT 1 KW 24.49

10. Jabalpur (10 KW) (M.P.) HPT 10 KW 375.16

11. . Metro Hyderabad (A.P.) LPT WOW 2.62

12. Mandya (Kamataka) LPT 300W 66.32

13. Washim (Maharashtra) LPT 100W 51.86

14. Acot (Maharashtra) LPT 1DOW 52.01

15. 1 KW Metro Cuttack (Orissa) HPT 1 KW

16. Malkangiri (Orissa) LPT 100W 48.29

17. Bhuvan (Orissa) LPT 1DOW 18.41

18. Jaora (M.P.) LPT 100W 52.43

19. Khambat (Gujarat) LPT 300W 59.54

20. Metro, Ahmedabad (Gujarat) LPT 100W 7.22

21. Bhuvaneshwar (Metro) (Orissa) LPT 100W

22. Kavaratti (Lakshadeep) LPT 100W

23. Kavaratti (Metro Channel) VLPT 10W

ALL INDIA RADIO

1. Bolangir (Orissa) LRS with 3 KW FM Tr. 230.00

2. Bhavanipatna (0) NRS with 2x100 KW MW Tr. 557.85

3. Karavaratti (Lakshdeep) NRS with 1 KW MW Tr. 110.85

4. Panaji (Goa) 2x3. KW FM Tr. Stereo 14.24 transmission service (New Channel) 187 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 188

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5. Karwar (Kamataka) LRS with 3 KW FM Tr. 230.32

6. Hamirpur (H.P.) LRS with 2x3 KW FM Tr. 256.31

7. Nowgong (Assam) LRS with 3 KW FM Tr. 226.00

8. Dharamshala (H.P.) LRS with 2x5 KW FM Tr. 272.26

9. Iddukki (Kerala) LRS with 2x3 KW FM Tr. 293.52

10. Dhule (Maharashtra) LRS with 2x3 KW FM Tr. 237.27

11. Jaisalmer (Rajasthan) LRS with 2x5 KW FM Tr. 393.18

12. Ahwa (Gujarat) NRS with 1 KW MW Tr. 217.16

13. Ootacamund (T.N.) NRS with 1 KW MW Tr. 237.58

14. Tuticorin (T.N.) NRS with 2x100 KW MW Tr. 825.90 • No expenditure was reported till March, 1994. Legend: HPT High Power Transmitter LPT Low Power Transmitter Tr. Transmitter LRS Local Radio Station NRS New Radio Station VLPT - Very Low Power Transmitter

[Translation J (d) whether there is any provision for monitoring before and the Telephone Exchanges commissioning of the exchanges; and

33. DR. LAXMINARAYAN (e) if so, the details thereof? PANDEYA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) the number of telephone THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS exchanges to be commissioned during (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). As given 1993-94; in the StatemenH enclosed.

(b) the number of telephone (c) As per 1he policy of the exchanges actually commissioned out of Department of 6 capacity utilisation Is them; achieved at the time of missionlng of telephone exchanges of capacity 2000 (c) the time likely to be taken in lines and above. However, there is no utilisation of % capacity of these such restriction for small and medium exchanges; capacity exchanges. 189 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 (d) Yes, Sir. (e) Details are given in the Statement-II enclosed.

STATEMENT-I

1. Telephone Exchanges (2000 lines and above): Exchanges planned to be commissioned during 1993-94 = 246 Nos. Exchanges actually commissioned during 1993-94 = 565 Nos. 2. Small and Medium Capacity Telephone Exchanges Exchange units planned to be commissioned during 1993-94 = 2295 Nos. Exchange units actually commissioned during 1993-94 = 6085 Nos. The commissioned exchanges/exchange units indicated above also include exchanges/exchange units outside the planned programme.

STATEMENT-II (b) whether any agreement has been reached between Doordarshan and Details are given as under as per the World Tele-link in this regard; and policy of the Department:- (c) if so, the details of the terms of the agreement? 1. A new small size telephone exchange is planned to be set up when THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the number of paid registered applicants THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND reaches 10 or more at a place. BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) to (c). Yes Sir, Doordarshan 2. 60% of capacity utilisation is has entered into a Memorandum of achieved at the time of commissioning Understanding with World Tel Inc; USA and 92% within six months of for the coverage of 1996 Cricket World commissioning, in case of exchanges of Cup matches. While Doordarshan will be capacity 2000 lines and above. However, a co-producer for the coverage of the for small and medium capacity exchanges, matches to be played in India, there is no such restriction. Doordarshan will have the exclusive live broadcast rights within India with respect World Cup Cricket Tournament, to all forms of television, and radio, in 1996 respect to all World Cup matches. The fee payable to World Tel will be US $ 34. SHRI CHETAN P.S. CHAUHAN: 47,50,000/-. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND {English] BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Power Project in Gujarat . (a) whether Doordarshan has been authorised to telecast all the matches of 35. SHRI SHANKER SINH World Cup Cricket toumament to be held VAGHELA: Will the Minister of POWER in 1996; be pleased to state: 191 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 192 (a) whether Ahmedabad Electricity TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): Company Limited has submitted any (a) The tonnage handled at Tuticorin Port proposal for setting up a power project has been steadily increasing and traffic in Gujarat; handled in the last 3 years is as follows:

(b) the total amount involved in ('000 Tonnes) setting up of this project; 1990-91 : 5075 (c) whether the Union Government have agreed to the proposal; and 1991-92: 5868

1992-93: 6215 (d) to what extent electricity is likely to be generated on the completion of the project? (b) Yes, Sir. The techno-economic feasibility of further dredging is; under study by the port. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) No, Sir. (c) With further dredging the presently available draft of 8.24 M can be increased. (b) to (d). Do not arise. [Translation] [English] Relations with Bulgaria Dredging of Tuticorin Port 37. SHRI BRIJBHUSHAN SHARAN SINGH: 36. SHRI M.R. KADAMBUR SHRI R. SURENDER JANARTHANAN: Will the Minister of REDDY: SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) the improvement made in Transport Tonnage in Tuticorin Port during (a) whether India and Bulgaria have 1992-93; recently signed any agreement;

(b) whether there is any proposal (b) if so, the details of areas in for further dredging of the port; and which both the countries have signed such agreements;

(c) if so, the benefits likely to be (c) the terms and other details of derived as a result thereof? the agreement; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) the time by which the agreement THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE is likely to come into force? 193 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 194

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and other international fora, Embassies MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS and Consulates in third countries, on (SHRI R.L. BHATIA) (a) Yes, Sir. Six bilateral, regional and global issues. Agreements were signed with Bulgaria on May 26, 1994 during President's visit (iii) The Veterinary and Sanitary to Bulgaria (26-29 may, 1994), namely, Agreement is to be implemented by the Agreement on Combating Organised Agricultural Ministries of both countries. Crime, International Terrorism, Illegal This agreement provides for cooperation Trafficking in Narcotics and Psychotropic to preserve their territories from epizootics Substances; Agreement on Avoidance of in case of exports, imports and transit Double Taxation; Agreement on Tourism of live animals, materials for animal Cooperation; Agreement on Quarantine reproduction, infectious diseases. It and Plant Protection; Veterinary and envisages exchange of information, Sanitary Agreement; and, a Protocol for regulations, experts as well as jOint Consultations and Cooperation between efforts at research, development and the Ministry of External Affairs and the prevention. Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria. (iv) The Agreement on Plant (b) to (d) A Statement is enclosed. Protection and Quarantine is to be implemented by the Ministries of Agriculture of both countries. This STATEMENT Agreement provides for cooperation to prevent the penetration of diseases, pests The main features of the Agreements and weeds on plants and plant products. signed with Bulgaria are as follows:- It envisages joint action in issuing phylo sanitary certificates; exchange of (i) The Agreement for Cooperation information; monitoring import, export and in Combating Organized Crime, transit of live plants, seeds, plant products International Terrorism and Illicit with a view to control infectious diseases. Trafficking in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances is to be (v) The Agreement on Tourism implemented by the Ministry of Home Cooperation is to be implemented by the Affairs of India and the Ministry of Interior Departments of Tourism of both countries. of Bulgaria. It provides for exchange of It provides for joint tourism promotion information, regulations, fruits of research, and publicity; simplification of travel equipment and experts for the purpose formalities; encouraging investment in of combating international terrorism, tourism; exchange of information and narcotics, organized crime including personnel. This Agreement is to be economic offences, forgery, illegal arms monitored by a joint working group. deals etc. (vi) The Agreement on Avoidance (ii) The Protocol for Consultations of Double Taxation is to be implemented and Cooperation between the Ministry of by the Ministries of Finance of both External Affairs of India and the Ministry countries. This Agreement provides for of Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria provides for protection of citizens from double taxation consultations at the level of Ministers, on incomes earned in their country from senior officials, delegations to the UN business, employment, athletic or artistic 195 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 196 performances and prevention of tax (b) if so, the details thereof; and evasion. This is a basic agreement facilitating greater interaction, particularly between the business and entrepreneurial (c) the number of post offices communities of both countries. opened during the above period district- wise? Whereas the Protocol on Foreign Office Consultations and Cooperation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE entered into force on 26 May, 1994, the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS other Agreements will come into effect (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). The after requirements of domestic legislation targets for opening of post offices in have been met in both countries. This Bihar Circle for 1993-94 were: process is expected to be completed in the near future. Extra Departmental 90 Branch Offices Post Offices in Bihar and 38. SHRI RAM TAHAL CHOUDHARY: Will the Minister of Departmental Sub 8 COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Offices

(a) whether any targets were fixed by the Government for opening of new (c) The information is given in the post offices in Bihar during 1993-94; enclosed Statement.

STATEMENT

Details of Post Offices opened during 1993-94 in Bihar

SI. Name of District Extra Depart- Departmental No. mental Branch Sub-Office Office

1. Araria 2. Aurangabad 3. Banka 4. Begusarai 5. Bhabhua 6. Bhagalpur 7. Bhojpur 2 8. B.S. City 9. Buxar 2 197 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

51. Name of District Ex1ra Depart- Departmental No. mental Branch Sub-Office Office

10. Chatra

11. Darbhanga

12. Deoghar

13. Dhanbad

14. Dumka 3

15. East Champaran

16. Garhwa

17. Gaya 4 18. Giridih 19. Godda

20. Gopalganj

21. Gumla 7

22. Hazaribagh

23. Jahanabad

24. Jamui

25. Katihar 26. Khagaria 2

27. Kishanganj 28. Lohardaga 5

29. Madhepura 2 30. Madhubani

31. Moghyr 2

32. Muzaffarpur 5 33. Nalanda 34. Nawada 2

35. Patna 2 2 36. Plamu 2 37. Pumea 38. Ranchi 4 199 Written Answers JUNE 13; 1994 Written Answers 200

SI. Name of District Extra Depart- Departmental No. mental Branch Sub-Office Office

39. Rohtas

40. Saharsa 2 41. Saran 3 42. Samastipur 3 43. Singhbhum (East) 3 44. Singhbhum (West) 4 45. Sitamarhi 2 46. Siwan 2 47. Shahebganj 2 48. Supaul 49. Vaishali 2 50. West Champaran

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{English} and not State-wise. A Statement is attached. Funds for Telecom System STATEMENT 39. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (in crores of Rs.) pleased to state: SI. Name of Amount (a) whether funds for development No. the Circle Allotted of telecom system for the year 1994-95 have been allotted; and 1. Andhra Pradesh 412.00

(b) if so, the details thereof, 2. Assam 38.20 Statewise? 3: Bihar 137.48 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 4. Gujarat 2n.07 I THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 5. Haryana 74.68

(b) Funds for development of 6. Himachal Pradesh 45.96 Telecom system are alltted Circle-wise 201 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 202

Sickness in Food Processing SI. Name of Amount Industries No. the Circle Allotted

7. Jammu & Kashmir 14.68 40. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING 8. Karnataka 308.00 INDUSTRIES be pleased to state:

9. Kerala 227.84 (a) the State-wise details of the food processing industries that are not 10. Maharashtra 468.00 funct!oning profitably in the country; 11. Madhya Pradesh 278.74 (b) the reasons for the sickness; 12. North East 33.53 and

13. Orissa 50.00 (c) the steps being taken by the 14. Punjab 148.77 Union Government to revive the sick of food processing industries? 15. Rajasthan 210.80 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 16. Tamil Nadu 288.00 THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): 17. Uttar Pradesh 342.64 (a) to (c). Since the food processing 18. West Bengal 75.35 industries are both in the organised and unorganised sectors, information in regard 19. Calcutta Phones 118.99 to the number of all food processing industries not functioning profitably in the 20. Madras Phones 100.00 country, State-wise is not maintained centrally. However, the Ministry of Food 21. Eastern Project, 127.03 Processing Industries has formulated Calcutta several Plan Schemes for providing assistance for developing food processing 22. Western Project, 133.00 Industries during the 8th Plan which Bombay inter-alia include assistance to State Government Organisations! Co-operative! 23. Southem Project, 162.00 Voluntary agencies! Joint sectors etc. for Madras setting up or enlarging food processing facilities, developing backward linkages 24. Northem Project, 149.82 with farmers, marketing support, pork, New Delhi poultry and other meat processing facilities, tuna and other fish processing 25. Other ancillary 66.02 facilities, deep sea fishing .and processing, units setting up of cold chain, research and development in food processing and packaging and training of manpower in 4288.60 Total certain sectors. 203 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 204

Indian Maritime University (a) whether the NAM Foreign Minsters held a Conference in Cairo to 41. SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTA- discuss the role of NAM after the end CHARYA: Will the Minister of SURFACE of cold war; TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

(b) if so, the views expressed in (a) whether there is any proposal that Conference; and to establish an autonomous body designated as Indian Maritime University; (c) the reaction of the Govemment (b) if so, the role assigned in the thereto? Government in the management of this University; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (c) the status of the existing Marine (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). The Engineering Training Institute after the Foreign Ministers of NAM countries met establishment of the Indian Maritime at the 11 th Ministerial Conference held University? at Cairo from 31 May to 3 June 1994 to review the current intemational situation THE MINISTER OF STATE OF in all its political, economic and social THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE dimensions. A Statement containing a TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): copy of the Declaration issued after the (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. It is proposed to Conference is enclosed which synthesises establish Indian Maritime University with the views expressed at the Conference. status of "Deemed University" consisting Since India was represented at Ministerial of the three Govemment Maritime Training level in the Conference and the Institutes, viz., T.S. 'Chanakya', New Declaration was adopted by consensus, Bombay, Marine Engineering & Research India shares the views expressed in the Institute, Calcutta/Bombay and LBS Declaration. College of Advanced Maritime Studies and Research, Bombay. The University will be an autonomous body. However, STATEMENT it is proposed to have representatives of the Government on the various bodies The Cairo Declaration of the proposed University like Board of Governors, Executive Council, Academic Council and Examination Board. "Meeting the Challenge"

(c) The Marine Engineering Training The Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Institutes will form part of the proposed the Non-Aligned Countries, meeting at Indian Maritime University. their Eleventh Ministerial Conference in Cairo, Egypt, May 31-June 3, 1994, NAM Meet in Cairo having reviewed the current international situation in all its political, economic and 42. SHRI VIJAY NAVAL PATIL: social dimensions, agreed that responding Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS to the changes in international relations, .~ pleased to state: represents the most important challenge "'I 205 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 206 before the Movement in the years to The Ministers reaffirmed the come. importance they accord to intemational cooperation in the area of social The fundamental principles of the development. To this end, the Ministers Movement have stood the test of time. agreed to recommend that the Heads of Its commitment to its ideals remains firm. State/or Government attend the World The Movement is determined to build Summit for Social Development to be upon its achievements to seek the full held in Copenhagen in March, 1995. participation of all in shaping the common destiny of human kind. The Ministers also reaffirmed the importance they accord to the Intemational They were convinced that the Conference on Population and International Community at the threshold Development to be held in Cairo in of the Twenty First Century, must find September, 1994 and the Fourth World an appropriate balance between the need Conference on Women, to be held in for continuity and the imperative of Beijing in September 1995, and were change. It must address the contradiction resolved to coordinate their efforts with between the evolving momentum towards a view to ensuring their successful international cooperation and economic outcome. integration, on the one hand, and the crippling effects of domestic and regional The Ministers were determined to conflicts, on the other. It must also continue enhancing the Movement's ability promote national security in wider terms, to respond to the new realities in order encompassing economic and social to attain its objectives while abiding by dimensions, common interests and shared the fundamental prinCiples of the responsibilities. Movement whose validity has been fully vindicated by current intemational realities. The Ministers were determined to closely coordinate their countries' They reaffirmed their belief that the approaches towards the global issues of United Nations, as the embodiment of international peace and security, multilateralism, has a unique opportunity colonization and occupation, disarmament, to play a catalytic role in developing a development, trade, poverty, human rights more just, equitable, prosperous and and the environment. They were resolved secure world order. to ensure that the international response to these issues took into account the They reiterated their commitment interests of the members of the to the process of democratization of the Movement. United Nations and to enhancing the role and participation of the Non-Aligned The Ministers were also determined Countries in the world body. to further strengthen South-South cooperation and to pursue North-South The Ministers were resolved to dialogue for promoting international impart a new dynamism to the Movement economic cooperation for development to enable its members to enter the based on mutuality of interests and Twenty First Century as a vibrant and benefit, genuine interdependence, shared constructive force on the World Scene. responsibiUty and partnership. They decided to continue to aim at 207 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 208

stirllUlating fresh approaches to old (b) Yes, Sir. problems and devising collective creative responses to the new challenges in (c) Yes, Sir. Except where either plNSuance of their joint efforts to contribute the area is technically not feasible or due to the definition and realization of a new to subscriber reasons viz. Party not world order which must rest on the twin available or subscriber requesting for pillars of peace and development. keeping the matter pending.

Telephone Connections in Delhi (d) About" 1214 OBs are pending for execution due to areas being 43. SHRI KALKA DAS: Will the technically not feasible. These connections Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be are being provided progressively after pleased to state: the areas become feasible.

(a) whether it is imperative to install (e) Seniority of booking is adhered telephone connection within one month for providing the telephone connections of issue of OB numbers; except for technically non-feasible cases.

(b) whether the Government have (f) Does not arise in view of (e) issued large number of OBs in February- above. March 1994 for Chanakyapuri and Kidwai Bhavan Exchanges in Delhi; T.V. Studio At Vijayawada

(c) whether all the telephone 44. SHRISOBHANADREESWARA connections have been installed within RAO VADDE: Will the Minister of the stipulated period of one month; INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (d) if not, the reasons therefor; (a) whether there has been (e) whether telephones at the above abnormal delay in the construction of TV exchanges have not been provided Studio at Vijayawada; according to the seniority of date of booking; and (b) if so the reasons therefor and the steps taken to go ahead with the (f) if so, the details thereof and co~struction of TV Studio at Vijayawada; action taken proposed to be taken in the matter? (c) the likely date by which the work is likely to commence and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF completed; and THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Sir, generally the (d) the estimated expenditure to be telephones are provided within one month incurred thereon? of issue of OB except where area is not technically feasible. Nearly 75% THE MINISTER OF STATE OF telephones are provided within the DOT THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND norms after issue of OB. BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH 209 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 210 DEO): (a) to (d). The TV Studio at during 1996 is estimated at about Vijayawada was included in a scheme of As. 3.61 crores per megawatt (MIN) ·setting up of TV centres at cultural including escalation upto completion and centres" under the 7th Plan. However, excluding interest during construction due to c;:onstraint of resources, the scope (IDC). The IDC, based on a debt equity of the scheme was reviewed, thereby ratio of 2:1, is estimated at about Rs. delaying its implementation. The project 1.56 crores/MW for this project. has since been approved in principle by the competent authority, and the (b) Cost .of Power transmission concerned authorities have been asked depends on various factors such .as to contain the total cost of the project quantum of Power generated and rating around As. 10 crores. Work is likely to of transmission voltage, total transmission commence for construction of TV Studio length, type of terrain through which·the at Vijayawada during 1994-95 and the transmission line passes, number of project is likely to be completed by SUbstations involved etc. and therefore, 1996-97. no specific cost of Power transmission can- be estimated. New Atomic Power Plant The cost of transmission varies 45. SHAI AAJ NAAAIN: Will the from project to project depending on the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: factors stated above.

(a) the estimated per megawatt (c) and (d). Investment at the expenditure involved in the generation of consumption point also varies power at a fixed capacity in a new Atomic considerably depending on the Power Plant in comparison to a old plant; concentration and type of load and different distribution voltage supply (b) the per megawatt estimated systems. The cost of transmission of cost of power transmissions; power and the additional investment to the point of consumption from an atomic (c) the per megawatt investment of power plant are, however, no different the consumption point in comparison to from a thermal or hydel station. hydel power plant; and Rarnagundam, Kalpakkam and (d) if so, the details thereof? NeyveJi Power Units

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 46. SHRI R. DHANUSKODI MINISTRY. OF POWER (SHRI P.V. ATHITHAN: Will the Minister of POWER AANGAYVA NAIDU): (a) The capital cost be pleased to state: of a nuclear power plant depends on several factors such as the technology adopted, year of commissioning, financing (a) the quantum of power produced pattem, interest and inflation rates. Among by Ramagundam, Kalpakkam and Neyveli the atomic power projects under Power units during 1992-93 and 1993-94; construction, the capital cost of Kaiga Atomic POVler Project with a capacity of (b) the criteria for distribution of 2x200 MIN scheduled to be commissioned power from these units; 211 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 212

(c) the quantum of power supplied (f) the details of major incidents of to each State during this period from power breakdown in Southern region and these units; the steps taken to improve the power grids in that region?

(d) whether any complaint of over THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE drawing of power by any State has been MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. received by the Union Government; RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) The quantum of actual power produced by Ramagundam, Kalpakkam and Neyveli power stations (e) if so, the details thereof; during 1992-93 and 1993-94 are given and below:~

Name of TPS Quantum of Power Generation during 1992-93 1993-94 (MU)

Ramagundam S.T.P.S. 12384 14593

Kalpakkam (Nuclear) 1976 1389

Neyveli 8317 9397

Total 22677 25379

(b) The power generated at Central by Government of India. Full output of Sector stations in Southern Region viz. Neyveli-I TPS is allocated in Tamil Nadu. Ramagundam STPS, Kalpakkam APS The allocation for other statioiRs is as and NeyvelHI TPS is distributed among under:- beneficiaries as per the allocation made

State/U.T. Ramagundam Kalpakkam Neyveli Second Mine cut STPS (2100 MW) APS (470 MW) Share in MW Share in MW Stage-I Stage-II (%) (%) (630 MW) (840 MW) Share (%) Share (%)

Andhra Pradesh 580 MW 40 MW 97 MW 180 MW (27.6%) (8.5%) (15.4%) (21.4%)

Kamataka 345 MW 30 MW 84 MW 115 MW (16.4%) (6.4%) (13.3%) (13.7%)

Kerala 245 MW 25 MW 63 MW 90 MW (11.6%) (5.3%) (10.0%) (10.7%) Tamil Nadu 470 MW 350 MW 176 MW 265 MW (22.4%) (74.5%) (28.0%) (31.5%)

NLC 50 MW 50 MW (7.9%) (6.0%) 213 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

State/U.T. Ramagundam Kalpakkam Neyveli Second Mine cut STPS (2100 MW) APS (470 MW) Share in MW Share in MW Stage-I Stage-II (%) (%) (630 MW) (840 MW) Share (%) Share (%)

Pondicherry 50 MW 5 MW 65 MW 15 MW (2.4%) (1.1 %) (10.3%) (1.8%) Goa 100 MW (4.8%)

Unallocated 310 MW 20 MW 95 MW 125 MW (14.8%) (4.2%) (15.1%) (14.9%)

(c) to (e). Details of entitlement vis- Kalpakkam APS and Neyveli 2nd mine a-vis actual drawal of various States/UTs cut (sl. I & II) during the period 1992- from Central sector stations in Southern 93 and 1993-94 are as under:- Region, viz. Ramagundam STPS,

State/UT April '92-March '93 April '93--March '94 (MU) (MU)

Entitlement Drawal Entitlement Drawal

Andhra Pradesh 5017 6783 6065 7752

Kamataka 3538 3609 4226 3509

Kerala 2334 1039 2843 2007

Tamil Nadu 6579 5845 7255 7060 (including NLC and Pondicherry) Goa 217 217 358 339

During 1992-93, 1993-94 as well as were affected. During 1993-94, a partial during April '94 Andhra Pradesh availed breakdown occurred on 7.9.1993 resulting more than their entitlement from Central in failure of supply in Karnataka and sector power stations in the Southern parts in Tamil Nadu. During this year Region. Efforts have been made to there was operational breakdown on reduce overdrawal. 2.6.1994 resulting in black out in Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka. The grid (f) There were two partial break- disturbances of 1992-93 & 1993-94 were downs during 1992-93, they occurred on enquired into by Committees/SREB and 3/1/1993 and 1712/1993 in which Andhra special action were taken based on their Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Kamataka recommendations. 215 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 216 Dabhol Power Project [Translation]

T.V. Transmitters in Gujarat 47. SHRI RAM KAPSE: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 48. SHRI N.J. HATHVA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether ENRON Development (a) the number of T.V. Transmitters Corporation had submitted representation of various capacities sanctioned and for a counter gj.larantee sometime back; installed in Gujarat during the last three years; (b) if so, whether the same has not (b) the locations thereof and the been finalised so far; cost of each project;

(c) whether any new proposal is (c) if so, the reasons therefor, lying pending for approval;

(d) if so, the details thereof; (d) whether delay in giving counter guarantee for Dabhol Power Project in (e) whether metro channel facility Maharashtra has affected adversely the is to be provided to Gujarat; and EN RON financial plans; and (f) if so, the details thereof?

(e) if so, the steps taken to solve THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the issue? -THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) and (b). The requisite details THE MINISTER OF STATEJN THE are given in the enclosed Statement. MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. (c) and (d). The proposals for RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) Yes, Sir. setting up of the high power transmitters (HPTs) at Vadodara, S'Jrat and Palitana (b) and (c). The matter is under are pending the formal approval of the finalisation. competent authority and availability of adequate resources.

(d) No, Sir. (e) and (f). A low power transmitter (LPT) for relay of Metro channel programmes of Doordarshan is in (e) Does not arise. operation at Ahmedabad. 217 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 218 STATEMENT

I. TV Transmitters (LPTsNLPTs) sanctioned in Gujarat under Annual Plan 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94

SI. Location Transmitter Cost No. and Power (Rs. in lakhs)

1. Dharangadhara LPT 100W 89.65 2. Mahuva LPT 300W (UHF) 101.34 3. Nakhtharana LPT 300W (UHF) 101.34 4. Rapar LPT 300W (UHF) 101.34 5. Mongrol (Junagarh) LPT 300W (UHF) 111.27 6. Ider LPT 100W 89.65 7. Diesa LPT 100W 100.70 8. Palitana LPT 100W 100.70 9. Rajula LPT 100W 100.70 10. Sanjeli LPT 100W 100.70

11. Khambalia LPT 100W 100.70 12. Amod LPT 300W (UHF) 111.27 13. Mongrol (Surat) LPT 300W (UHF) 111.27 14. Jagadia LPT 300W (UHF) 111.27

15. Natrang VLPT lOW n.65 16. Devgarh Saria VLPT lOW n.65

17. Ahmedabad LPT 100W 33.74 (for Metro Service)

II. TV Transmitters Commissioned during the last three years in Gujarat

1. Shuj HPT 1 KW 331.60 (interim set-up)

2. Khambat LPT 300W (UHF) 101.34 3. Ahmedabad LPT 100 W 33.74 (for Metro Service)

LlIgSnd: HPT - High Power Transmitter LPT - Low Power Transmitter VLPT - Very Low Power Transmitter 219 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 220 [English] (b) the break-up, year-wise;

Inflated Bills of M.Ps. (c) whether the sanctioned allocation for 1993-94 has not been 49. SHRI SUSHll CHANDRA released so far; VARMA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) if so, the reasons therefor; and

(a) whether complaints have been (e) the reason for reduction in the received from M.Ps. regarding inflated non-plan support of HDPEl during 1994- telephone bills in Delhi during 1993-94 95? and 1994-95;

(b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTlER): (c) the action taken thereon; (al The total Plan outlay for Hooghly Dock and Ports Engineers (HDPE) Limited (d) whether there is any special cell during the Eighth Plan period is in the department to detect the mischief Rs. 15.00 crores. played by the telecommunication staff where the telephone calls made by some other persons are included in the bills of (b) The break-up for the years the genuine telephone owners; 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994-95 are as follows:~

(e) if so, the details thereof; and Rs. in Crores (f) the action taken or proposed 1992-93 1993-94 1994-95 against the persons found responsible Amount Amount Amount therefor? Approved Approved Approved

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 0.58 2.31 0.02 THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (f). The required information has been called for The break-up for 1995-96 and 1996- and will be laid on the Table of the 97 has not been decided. House. (cl and (d). Out of Rs. 2.31 crores Hooghly Dock and Ports Engineers approved for 1993-94 for Plan schemes Ltd. only a sum of Rs. 1.64 crores was released as the other schemes given by 50. PROF. SUSANTA CHAKRA- Ho09hly Dock and Ports Engineers Limited BORTY: Will the Minister of SURFACE werp not found technically acceptable. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (e) As a decision on the future of (a) the total plan outlay for Hooghly this chronically sick Unit is under the Dock and Ports Engineers Limited consideration of the Government, only a (HDPEl) during the Eighth Plan period; sum of Rs. 1.00 crore was allocated. 221 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 Relief for Film Industry (iv) Checking of video piracy; and

51. SHRI V. SREENIVASA (v) Removal of Section 285-B of PRASAD: the Income Tax Act. SHRI G. DEVARAYA NAIK: (c) Action taken/proposed to be Will the Minister of INFORMATION taken in respect of each of the AND BROADCASTING be pleased to aforementioned demands is given in the state: Statement enclosed.

(a) whether attention of the STATEMENT Government has been drawn to the news item captioned "Relief for film (i) Grant of Institutional Finance: industry" appearing in the 'Statesman' dated 13.5.94; The demand was earlier examined by the Ministry of Finance in consultation (b) if so, whether the film makers with the Industrial Development Bank of at a session on film censorship in the India (IDBI). It was observed that while capital have urged greater reliefs for the there was no restriction on the banks film industry to enable them to make granting loans to the film related sector, good and clean films; and this was not a priority sector for the banks. Moreover, due to uncertainity (c) if so, the details of the reliefs about the success of a film which depends Government propose to render to film on several factors, banks generally do industry? not risk in pooling their resources in this sector. The same is the case ",,"th financial institutions at national and State levels. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Besides, these institulions also do not THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND have the expertise to evaluate a film BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH project to assess its marketability and the DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. Government have returns. lOBI, however, provides financial seen the newsitem captioned "Relief for assistance to film processing laboratories film industry sought" which appeared in and for projects for cinema equipment. dated 13.5.1994. The units engaged in film related activities are also eligible for refinance and are, (b) Yes, Sir. The film makers asked therefore, eligible for modernisation for the following reliefs for the film assistance also. industry in the meeting held by the Minister of State for Information and (ii) Relief in Entertainment tax: Broadcasting on 11 .5.1994:

The subject matter falls within the (i) Grant of institutional finance; purview of the State Government and the Union Territory Administrations. However, (ii) Relief in Entertainment Tax; the issue of keeping the Entertainment Tax rates low had bee,n considered and (iii) Aem<;>val of countervailing duty accepted for adopticln by the State on raw film stock; Information Ministers' Conferenae held in 223 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 224 1990. The implementation of this (d) if so, the steps to be taken'to resolution will be discussed in the next avoid retrenchment of postal employees? conference of State Ministers, scheduled to be held towards the end of June, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 1994. THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (iii) Removal of countervailing duty Franchising of the booking and delivery on raw film stock: of telegrams has been ordered on experimental basis in Kamataka Telecom The issue had been earlier taken Circle. up with CBDT. However, this has not so far been acceded to by the Ministry of (b) In order to have wider Finance. penetration of service and provide easy accessibility to the (iv) Checking of Video Piracy: customers, the franchising of telegraph services are being experimented. The Copyright (Amendemnt) Bill, recently passed by the Parliament gives (c) No, Sir. more teeth to the existing provisions of the law. It is hoped that with the amended Act, the incidence of video piracy will (d) Does not arise. decline to a great extent. Energy Management Centre (v) Remol'al of Section 285-8 of the Income Tax Act: 53 . .oR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: The Ministry of Finance has been requested to do the needful to redress the grievance of the film industry. (a) who'lther any Energy Management Centre is working in Gujarat; Privatisation of Telegram Facility (b) if not, whether there is any plan 52. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the to provide financial assistance to Gujarat Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be for setting up of an Energy Management pleased to state: Centre; and

(a) whether the Government (c) if so, the details thereof? propose to handover booking and delivery of telegrams to private individuals on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE commission basis in Kamataka; MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). One (b) if so, the reasons therefor; organisation, viz., Gujarat Energy Development Agency (GEDA), set up by (c) whether many postal employees the Govemment of Gujarat, is functioning would be rendered surplus as a result in the State. There is no separate Energy thereof; and Management Centre in that State. 225 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 UN Mediation on Kashmir Issue THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI 54. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) and (c). Manganese Ore (India) Limited has asked for certain clarifications (a) whether the Government have regarding existing financial health, seen press reports to the effect that manpower etc. from Maharashtra State Government of India may not averse to Mining Corporation. the mediation by U.N. authorities on Kashmir issue; Inland Water Transport in A.P.

(b) if so, the facts thereof; and 56. SHR,.. DATTATAAYA BANDARU: Will the Minister of SURFACE (c) the Union Government's stand TRANSPORT be pleased to state: in this regard? (a) the total amount provided to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Andhra Pradesh by the Union Government MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS for the development of Inland Water (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). Transport during the Eighth Five Year Government's consistent position remains Plan, so far; and unchanged, i.e., that under the Simla Agreement all differences with Pakistan (b) the details of work carried out are to be resolved bilaterally and there so far in this regard? can be no scope for any outside or third party involvement of any sort. This has THe: MINISTER OF STATE OF been conveyed to the international THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE community on several occasions and at TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): various levels. (a) In the Eighth Five Year Plan, 00 separate outlay has been made in the Manganese Ore \ndia Limited Central Budget tor the development 0\ Inland Water Itans?()t\ in to..ndt.ra Pradesh. 55. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise.

(a) whether the Manganese Ore [Translation] India Limited (MOIL) has been requested by the Government of Maharashtra to Theft of Cables take over its loss making Maharashtra State Mining Corporation Limited (MSMC); 57. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (b) if so, the details thereof; and be pleased to state:

(c) tbe response of the Union (a) whether attention of the Government thereto? Govemment has been drawn to the news 227 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 228 item captioned "Cable Chori Ke Karan Electricity Boards do not exceed the Sai karon Telephone Bekar" appearing in equivalent of two months billing and to Rastriya Sahara dated May 12, 1994; this end NTPC would have to regulate and supplies to such States that persistently default in making full payments for (b) if so, the steps proposed to be electricity drawn. taken by the Government to check such incidents in future? (c) The Govemment of India has directed the Central Electricity Authority THE MINISTER OF STATE OF and the Regional Electricity Boards/Load THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Despatch Centres to devise a system for (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. regulating supply of power to State commensurate with the payments made (b) The steps taken are as follows:- by them.

(i) Patrolling of Cable routes has [English] been intensified. Telephone to Panchayats in U.P. (ii) FIR has been lodged and close co-ordination with police 59. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR authorities is maintained. RAWAT: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Distribution of Electricity (a) the criteria laid down for installing 58. SHRIMATI SAROJ DUBEY: telephone connections in the Panchayats; Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (b) the number of Panchayats where such telephones were installed in each (a) whether the National Thermal district of Agra Zone during the last two Power Corporation propose to curtail the years upto December 31, 1993; supply of electricity to some of the States on the suggestion of the World Bank; (c) the number of such connections proposed to be provided during 1994-95; (b) if so, the details in this regard; and (d) the number of complaints received by the Govemment regarding (c) the steps proposed to be taken defect/malfunctioning of the telephones by the Government to solve this problem? during the above period and the action taken on each complaint; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. (e) whether there is any provision RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). The for repairing the defective telephones covenants entered into by the National installed in the Panchayats; Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) with the World Bank provide that the receivables from the beneficiary State (f) if so, the details thereof; 229 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

(g) if not, the reasons therefor; and (d) The details are being collected and will be laid on the Table of the (h) the measures taken/proposed House. to be taken by the Government in this regard? (e) and (f). Yes, Sir The Panchayat telephones functioning on open wire lines THE MINISTER OF STATE OF are attended by the maintenance staff THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and the routine faults are rectified as and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The criterion laid when they come to notice. In case of down for installation of telephone heavy breakdown due to storms or theft connections in the Panchayats is to of line material the repairs are undertaken provide one Public Telephone in each after arranging the stores. Panchayat Village in the country by 31 st March 1995. The actual location is in In the case of Panchayat (i) Post Office, or (ii) Panchayat HQ, or telephones functioning on MARR, faults Grocer's shop or any other suitable are generally due to development of fault place, easily accessible to public. in base station equipment and in the equipment located at Panchayat Village. (b) The details are as under:- As the maintenance staff are not fully trained to attend to such faults, very often help of suppliers is taken to rectify Name of District 92-93 93-94 the defects.

Agra 246 333 (g) and (h). Question does not Aligarh 262 115 arise in view of (e) and (f) above. Etah 92 22 [Trans/ationJ Ferozabad 57 11

Mathura 92 10 Indian Missions/Embassies Mainpuri 130 60. SHRJ PREM CHAND RAM: Will Total 879 491 the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) The details are as under:- (a) the countries in which Indian Embassies/Missions are not existing at Name of District Target present;

Agra 157 (b) the countries in which Indian Aligarh 300 Embassies are proposed to be opened Etah 400 in near future; and Ferozabad 300 (c) the time by which these Mathura 200 Embassies are likely to be opened? Mainpuri 200 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Total 1557 MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 231 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 232 (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) A list containing 18. Malawi the names of the countries in which 19. Mali Indian Embassies/Missions are not existing is given in the Statfhnent. 20. Niger 21. Rwanda (b) and (c). The opening of a new Embassy/Mission in countries where 22. Sao Tome & Principe presently there is no Indian diplomatic 23. Sierra Leone presence, is decided in the context of existing political, economic, commercial 24. Swaziland and other requirements. These factors 25. Togo are constantly and regularly reviewed and as and when found favourable. a 26. Zaire decision is taken to open a new Mission. 27. The Bahamas Presently, roo formal decision has been taken to open a new Embassy in the 28. Cook Islands near future. 29. Marshall Islands 30. STATEMENT Nauru Names of the countries in which 31. New Caledonia resident Indian Missions do not exist: 32. Society Islands 1. Benin 33. Tonga 2. Burkina Faso 34. Tuvalu 3. Burundi 35. Fiji 4. Cameroon 36. Kiribati 5. Cape Verde Islands 37. Papua New Guinea

6. Central African Republic 38. Solomon Islands

7. Chad 39. Vanuatu 8. Comoros 40. Western Samoa 9. Congo 41 . Azerbaijan 10. Equatorial Guinea 42. Albania 11. Eritrea 43. Armenia 12. Gabon 44. Bosnia-Herzegovina 13. Gambia 45. Croatia 14. Guinea 46. Estonia 15. Guinea Bissau 47. Georgia 16. Lesotho 48. Latvia 17. Uberia 49. Uthuania 233 Written A'1swers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

50. Moldova 82. Djibouti 51. Slovak Republic 83. Mauritania 52. Slovenia 84. Somalia

53. The Holy See 85. Gibraltar 54. Iceland Obscenity in Films 55. Liechtenstein 61. SHRI NARAIN SINGH 56. Luxemberg CHAUDHARY: 57. Monaco SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: 58. San Marino SHRI JANARD ',N MISRA: 59. Antigua & Barbuda SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: 60. Barbados SHRI DATTATRAYA BANDARU: 61. Belize SHRI DHARMANNA MON- 62. Bolivia DA YY A SADUL: 63. Caynan Islands SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: SHRIMATI PRATIBHA 64. Colombia DEVISINGH PATIL: 65. Costa Rica SHRI GOVINDRAO NIKAM:

66. Commonwealth of Dominica Will the Minister of INFORMATION 67. Dominican Republic AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 68. Ecuador

69. Ef Salvador (a) whether a broad-based meeting 70. Grenada was held in New Delhi on May 11, 1994 to consider the problems of growing 71. Guatemala vulgarity and obscenity in films; 72. Haiti (b) if so, the details thereof and the 73. Honduras view-points expressed by the participants 74. Netherlands Antilles at the meeting; and

75. Paraguay (c) the effective measures taken or 76. St Christopher and Nevis proposed to be taken to implement the 77. St Lucia suggestions made at the meeting in this regard? 78. St Vincent and the Grenadines

79. Turks and Caicos Islands THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 80. Uruguay BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH 81. Taiwan DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. 235 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 236

(b) The meeting was attended by (c) Steps have been taken to ensure lady Members of Paniament, members of that uncertified songs are not shown on the consultative Committee of MPs the small screen. The Indian High attached to the Ministry of Information Commission in Hongkong has been and Broadcasting, members of the approached to impress on the Hongkong National Commission for Women, authorities to advise STAR TV to desist Chairman and Members of the Censor from telecasting towards India, songs Board, representatives of the film industry and clips from Hindi films that have not and cable TV operators' associations and been certified by the Censor Board. media critics. Instructions have also been issued to the Central Board of Film Certification to The meeting discussed matters ensure that guidelines especially relating relating to film censorship against the to sex and violance are strictly adhered background of the growing concem in to, so that certifie.d films do not attract Parliament about the adverse effects on charges of obscenity and excessive society of the display of sex and violence violence. Efforts will also be made to in films and on Television. The unanimous increase the representation of women opinion that emerged at the meeting was upto 50 per cent while reconstituting the that the rising trend of sex and vulgarity Board and its advisory panels. in films, especially in film songs shown on Doordarshan, and excessive violence As regards Television, Doordarshan in films should be arrested forthwith. programmes are exempted from Most participants including Hon. MPs censorship. However, Doordarshan has discussed the functioning and role played decided not to accept any film based by the Central Board of Film Certification material for telecast unless it bears a in this recent trend in Indian Cinema and certificate from the Central Board of Film called for stricter implementation of censor Certification. In addition, the preview laws, greater vigilence, revamping of the procedure for programmes to be telecast Censor Board and it!' advisory panels. on Doordarshan-" and Doordarshan-I Views were expressed for and against have been tightened. In non-film based having a man from the film industry as programmes, scenes which offend public Chairman of the Censor Board. The decency or those not produced in Chairman of the Censor Board pointed conformity with the boradcast code are out that in the past certain songs were deleted before telecast. shown on Doordarshan even before the concerned films were certified. This has Chamera Power Project now been stopped. The difficulties being faced by the film industry, namely, the 62. SHRI GUMAN MAL rising challenge of the small screen that LODHA: made theatres uneconomical, high SHRI NITISH KUMAR: incidence of entertainment tax and a lack of any institutional support for films that Will the Minister of POWER be fail at the box office, were also expressed. pleased to state: A view was also expressed that the industry be freed from censorship laws (a) whether the first phase in the and the producers/directors made directly construction of Chamera project under responsible for controlling vulgarity in the National Hydro-ElectriC Power Corp- films through self-censorship. oration is on Schedule; 237 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

(b) whether the construction cost of (f) The cost per MW of installed this project has ascalated several times capacity at Chamera works out to as compared to the original cost; Rs. 4.44 crore.

Cc) if so, the extent of escalation (g) The per MW cost of hydel in the cost; power plant depends on a number of factors including the location and type of (d) whether the Government have project, the magnitude of civil works inquired into the causes for such involved and the pattern/source of escalation; financing.

(e) if so, the details thereof; [English]

(f) the per megawatt cost of power Rajdhani Channel Service generation likely to be incurred under this project; and 63. SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: SHRI ANNA JOSHI: (g) the extent by which the said cost is more than the general hydel Will the Minister of power generation cost so far? COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Government have MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. introduced a new postal service 'Rajdhani RANGA YYA NAIDU): (a) Construction of Channel' between Delhi and various State the first stage of Chamera Hydro-electric capitals; Project, comprising of three units of 180 MW each has been completed in March, (b) if so, the names of the State 1994 as against the original capitals which are linked with Delhi under commissioning schedule of March, 1990. the said postal service;

(b) and (c). The construction cost (c) the main features of the new of the project, including its associated postal service; tranSmission system, has increased from Rs. 809.29 crores to Rs. 2400 crore. (d) whether any additional charge would be collected for the said postal (d) and (e). The escalation in the service; and cost of the project has been due mainly to the additional time taken for completion (e) if so, the amount thereof? of civil works on account of unforeseen !:jeological problems leading to price escalation as well as increased liability THE MINISTER OF STATE OF on borrowed capital. Besides, the project THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS having been executed with financial (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. assistance from Canada, exchange rate variations have also contributed to the (b) Lucknow, Ahmedabad, Shimla, escalation in cost. Jaipur, Bhopal and Chandigarh. 239 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 240

(c) The scheme envisages terrain conditions and intervening distance expeditious transmission and delivery from the TV transmitters. within 48 hours, of Pin-Coded first class letter mail posted in Delhi for abeve State (c) and (d). 41 TV transmitters of Capitals and vice-versa. Such mails will various power ratings, which inter alia be separated at the stage of initial includes high power transmitters at Banda, handling and then exclusively sorted and Mau, Lakhimpur, Balrampur and Sitapur; despatched. The Department is exploring are under implemeniationi envisaged to the feasibility of extending the scheme be set up in the State. to other State Capitals also in the next phase. Doordarshan Transmission in Madhya Pradesh (d) No, Sir.

65. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: (e) In view of (d) above, question Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND does not arise. BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

[Translation] (a) the names of district headquarters in Madhya Pradesh, which Doordarshan Programmes have not been covered under the Doordarshan transmission scheme so far 64. DR. SAKSHIJI: Will the Minister and also those where Doordarshan of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING programmes are il0t clearly visible; be pleased to state: (b) the details of the work-plan to (a) whether the Doordarshan make available Doordarshan trans- programmes in certain areas of Uttar missions in those areas and also to Pradesh are not clearly visible; ensure clear transmission in the areas where these are not clearly visible; (b) if so, the reasons therefor, (c) the time by which this work plan (c) whether the Government is likely to be implemented; and propose to install high power TV Transmitters in these areas; and (d) the time by which a T.V. transmitter is likely to be set up in Ujjain (d) if so, the details thereof? to provide clear transmission of Doordarshan programmes? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND DEO): (a) and (b). While the State of BROADCASTING {SHRI K.P. SINGH Uttar Pradesh is, at present, terrestrially DEO): (a) to (c). Terrestrial transmission covered to the extent of 79.0% by area is, at present, available wholly or partially and 92.4% by population, the TV reception to ali the· districts of Madhya Pradesh. at certain places of Uttar Pradesh__may With a view to strengthen TV coverage, not be satisfactory mainly due to the local 3 more High Power Transmitters (HPTs) 241 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKAl Written Answers 242

and 19 Low PowerNery Low Power BroadcastinglTelecasting Code Transmitters (LPTsNLPTs) are presently und,er implementation/envisaged to be 67. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: set up in the State. These LPTsNLPTs Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND are expected to be ready in phases BROADCASTING be pleased to state: during 1994-95 and 1995-96 subject to timely supply of equipment and other infrastructural facilities for the purpose. (a) whether the Government The lead time involved in commissioning propose to review the broadcasting/ of HPTs is 3-4 years after commencement telecasting code for All India Radio and of civil work. Doordarshar.; and

(b) if so, the details thereof? (d) Ujjain lies within the coverage of zone of the HPT at Indore. There is, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF therefore no scheme to set up a TV THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND transmitter there. BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) Not at present, Sir. Irregularities in M. T.N.L. (b) Does not arise.

66. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Power Projects be pleased to state: 68. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of POWER (a) whether attention of the be pleased to state: Government has been drawn to the newsitem captioned "Telephone Nigam (a) the number of power projects Ka 119 crore doobkhate Mein" (119 crore cleared during the Sixth, Seventh and rupees of Telephone Nigam in bad- Eighth Five Year Plan period so far, debts) appearing in the Rashtriya Sahara State-wise; dated May 11, 1994;

(b) the extent of power generated/ (b) if so, the details and facts proposed to be generated through the thereof; and power projects .cleared during the said period and the estimated and actual cost of these projects; and (c) the reaction of the Government thereto? (c) the total number of power projects pending for clearance with the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Union Government for the last one year? THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE information. is being collected and it will MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. be laid on the Table of the House shortly. RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). The 243 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 244

information is being collected and will be With the SEBs agreeing to limit laid on the Table of the House. drawal commensurate with the payment, power supply from NTPC Stations to the [English} Northern States will be adequately maintained. Power Crisis Quality Control on Export 69. SI1RI LAL BAHADUI1. RAWAL: 70. DR. K.v.R. CHOWDARY: Will SHRI MANORANJAN the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING BHAKTA: INDUSTRIES be pleased to state:

Will the Minister of POWER be (a) the details of the processed pleased to state: foods that are exported, particularly from Andhra Pradesh; and (a) whether attention of the Government has been drawn to the (b) the steps taken by Government newsitem captioned "Power Crisis in to monitor the quality of these processed northern States likely" appearing in the food items? Statesman dated May 18, 1994; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, whether the row between THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING NTPC and UPSEB is going to create INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): power crisis in the capital as well as in (a) and (b). The items of processed food other northern States; and that are normally exported comprised fruits and vegetable products. (canned (c) the steps proposed to be taken meat, frozen and chilled meat and by the Government to resolve the row cagings), poultry products, marine and to maintain power supply position in products etc. The State-wise data of the northern States? exports are not maintained in the Ministry. The quality control is r,onitored under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Export (Quality and Inspection Control MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. Act) 1963 (22 of 1963). The Act is RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) Yes, Sir. monitored by Export Inspection Agency. Directorate of Marketing and Inspection, (b) and (c). The power supply to State Governments etc. Self Certification Delhi and other Northern States from has also been introduced for big export NTPC Stations is expected to be affected houses who possess facilities for testing as long as UPSEB limit the drawal of and other requirements. power commensurate with the payment. UPSEB has been persuaded to do so. {Translation}

UPSEB has given a commitment to Policy to educate population increase the limit of Letter of Credit to growth on Electronic Media Rs. 84 crores from existing Rs. 72 crores and make cash payment for excess 71. SHRI RAJENDRA KUMAR drawal. SHARMA: Will the Minister of 245 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (b) Does not arise. be pleased to state: [English] (a) whether the Government have formulated any policy to educate people Modernisation of Major Ports through electronic media to put a check to the rising population; 73. SHRI TARA SINGH: Will the (b) whether steps have been taken Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be to educate the people through electronic pleased to state: media about agrotechnology and cottage industries; and (a) the details of the modernisation programme of major ports; (c) if so, the details in this regard? (b) the allocations earmarked for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the modernisation of ports during the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Eighth Plan period; BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. (c) whether the assistance of any foreign firm is likely to be sought in this (c) All the Stations and Kendras of regard; and AIR and Doordarshan regularly broadcast! telecast programmes on family we!fare, agro-technology and cottage industries, (d) if so, the details thereof? in different formats, including putting out spots at prime time, to ensure widest THE MINISTER OF STATE OF coverage of these programmes among THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE the people. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) The modernisation programme of Offer of Russian Mediation on Major Ports includes replacement of old Kashmir Issue and obsolete assets like cargo handling equipment, floating crafts, etc, 72. SHRI BALRAJ PASSI: Will the modernisation of existing facilities like Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Jetties/Berths etc., where feasible, and pleased to state: creation/provision of additional handling facilities for bulklbreak bulk cargos and containers. (a) whether Russian Government have offered to mediate to solve the Kashmir dispute under Shimla agreement; (b) An outlay of Rs. 2984 crores and has been provided for various development schemes included in the 8th (b) the reaction of the Union Plan 1992-97 for Major Ports. Government thereto? (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. In 8th Five THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Year Plan, it is envisaged to induct MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS private sector partiCipation, including by (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No, Sir. foreign firms, in Port Sector. 247 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 248

Ministers visit to Foreign They all accornpained President on countries his State visits to Bulgaria from May 26- 29, 1994 and Romania from May 30 to 74. SHRI CHANDRESH June 2, 1994. PATEL: SHRI HARIN PATHAK: In addition to partiCipating in the delegation level talks in the two countries, Will the Minister of EXTERNAL these Ministers also held talks on AFFAIRS be pleased to state: furthenng cooperation in their respective spheres of competence with their Bulgarian and Romanian counterparts. (a) whether some Union Ministers have visited some foreign countries during May, 1994: Six agreements were signed in Sofia with Bulgaria. These were as given below; (b) if so, the details thereof;

(i) Agreement on Combating (c) the details of the issue discussed Organised Crime, International with each country and the outcome Terrorism, Illegal Trafficking in thereof; and Narcotics and Psychotropic Substances. (d) the rjpt::lils of the protocols and agreements signed, country-wise? (ii) Agreement on Avoidance of Double Taxation. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (iii) Agreement on Tourism (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. Cooperation.

(b) to (d). The information is as per (iv) Agreement on Quarantine and Statement enclosed. Plant Protection.

STATEMENT (v) Veterinary and Sanitary Agreement. (1) Shri S.B. Chavan, Minister for Home Affairs (vi) Protocol on Foreign Office Consultations and Cooperation. (2) Shri Ghulam Nabi Azad, Minister for Civil Aviation and Three agreements were Signed with Tourism Romania. These were as given below:

(3) Shri Arvind Netam, Minister of (i) Agreement on Combating State for Agriculture and Organised Crime, International Cooperation Terrorism, Illicit Trafficking in Narcotics and Psychotropic (4) Shri Salman Khurshid, Minister Substances and other Illegal of State for External Affairs. Activities. 249 Written Answers JY AISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 (ii) Agreement on Cooperation on World Conference on Natural Disaster Tourism. Reduction held in Yokohama, Japan, from May 23 to 27, 1994. (iii) Declaration of Principles and Directions on Cooperation. No agreements/protocols were signed during the visit. The Cultural Exchange Programme for 1994-96 was also signed with (8) Shri R.L. Bhatia, Minister of Romania. State for External Affairs.

These visits contributed to better understanding and improvment of bilateral Minister of State for External Affairs, relations with Bulgaria and Romania. Shri R.L. Bhatia, visited Cairo (Egypt) twice in May, 1994. The firs: visit on (5) Shri Arjun Singh, Minister for May 4, 1994 was to participate in the Human Resource Develop- signing ceremony of the Israeli-Palestinian ment. Agreement and the second visit was to lead india's delegation to NAM Foriegn Minister's Meeting from May 30 to June (6) Ms. Selja, Deputy Minister for 3, 1994. Culture. Minister of State for External Affairs held a brief meeting with President Mubarak on May 4, 1994 and also met Shri A~un Singh, Minister for Human his counterpart, Amre Moussa. with whom Resource Development visited China from he raised the question of Pakistan based May 7 to 11, 1994 and Ms. Selja, Deputy terrorism which is threatening several Minister for Culture from May 14 to 21, countries and impressed upon him the 1994. Visit by these two Ministers was need to pressurise Pakistan to curtail in connection with the Festival of India these activities. in China which was inaugurated on May 9, 1994 in Beijing. Human Resource Development Minister, Shri Arjun Singh, (9) Shri E. Kamaluddin Ahmed, called on Chinese Premier Li Pengo The Minister of State for two sides discussed the improvement of Commerce. India-China relations and specifics with regard to the Festival of India. He accompained the Vice-President on his visit to South Africa during May, No agreements/protocols were 1994 for Presidential inauguration. signed during this visit.

(10) Shri Narasimha Rao, Prime The visit contributed to better Minister understanding and improvement of bilateral relations with China. (11 ) Shri Manmohan Singh. Minister of Finance (7) Dr. Balram Jakhar, Minister for Agriculture and Cooperation. (12) Shri Salman Khursheed, He paid a visit to Japan as leader Minister of State for External of the Indian delegation to attend tne Affairs 251 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 252

(13) Shri Bhuvnesh Chaturvedi, session Commerce Minister had detailed Minister of State in Prime discussions with his Italian counterpart, Minister's Office Dr. Giorgio Bemini. The topics covered included ways to improve bilateral trade, The Three Ministers accompanied flow of Italian investments to India and the Prime Minister on his official working Joint ventures. On 1st June, 1994 visit to the United States during the Commerce Minister delivered the key- month of May, 1994. note address at an Indo-Italian Trade and Economic co-operation seminar held in A wide range of issues of common Milan which was attended by more than concern, including those relating to 300 Italian industrialists. national security, bilateral relations and international issues of mutual interest During his visit, Commerce Minister were discussed. The US si.Qe also called on th_e President of Italy and demonstrated great support and optimism the President of the Italian Senate. for India's economic reforms and the new avenues this had opened up to broaden 15. Shri Sukh Ram, Minister of State bilateral cooperation particularly in the for Communications. area of trade and investment. Both sides agreed to ensure that existing differences Shri Sukh Ram visited Sweden did not overshadow the potential for from May 16 to 18, 1994 at the invitation greater cooperation. It was decided to of his Swedish counterpart. His visit was expand the pace and scope of high-level designed to impart momentum to Indo- exchanges, to seek ways to extend Swedish cooperation in the field of cooperation at the UN and to cooperate communications. in the search for solutions to global challenges. 16. Smt. Krishna Sahi, Minister of Siale for Industry Two MOUs were Signed during the visit, one on Cooperative Measures to Increase Awareness and Support for Smt. Sahi visited Sweden from Efforts to Combat Production, Distribution May 24 to 28, 1994. The Minister of and Use of Illegal drugs; and another on State for Industry led the Indian delegation Planning, Conservation and Management for 11 th meeting of the Indo-Swedish of Natural and Cultural Heritage Sites. A Joint Commission. During the session, Joint Statement was also issued calling detailed discussions were held on for a new partnership between India and expansion of economic and commercial the US. co-operation between India and Sweden. The Minister of State for Industry held talks with the Swedish Ministers for 14. Shri Pranab Mukherjee, Minister for Economic Affairs and Foreign Trade as Commerce well as Finance. Shri Mukherjee visited Italy in May 30 - June 1, 1994 for a meeting of the 17. Shri Sukh Ram, Minister of State Indo-Italian Joint Committee. Commerce for Communications. Minister led the Indian delegation to the Indo-Italian Joint Committee session held Shri Sukh Ram visited Denmark on on 30th and 31st May, 1994. During the May 19-20, 1994 at the invitation of his 253 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 254

Danish counterpart. Bilateral cooperation BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH in the field of communications was DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. discussed during the visit. (b) and (c). Swiss Francs 3,67,192 18. Shri Jagdish Tytler, Minister of (equivalent to Rs. 51,19,438/-) have been State for Surface Transport paid to the Asia Pacific Broadcasting Union, Kuala Lumpur towards Doordarshan's share of World Cup Shri Tytler visited Norway from Football 1994 Rights Fee. May 22 to 27, 1994 at the invitation of his Norwegian counterpart. He held talks with the Norwegian Ministers for Trade (Translation] and Shipping as well as Transport. Subjects covered during the talks included Power Shortage bilateral cooperation in the fields of shipping, ship-building and ship-repair 76. DR. LAXMINARAYAN and road construction. PANDEYA: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 19. Shri Satish Sharma, Minister of State for Petroleum (a) whether there is acute shortage of power in the country; Minister of State for Petroleum and Natural Gas, Shri Satish Sharma, visited (b) whether various measures are Norway from May 29 to June 1, 1994 being taken to overcome this shortage to attend the 14th Wor1d Petroleum which include generation of power by Congress. private sector;

(c) whether 'solar energy' is also World Cup Football Competition a large source of power; 1994

(d) whether any concrete scheme 75. SHRI C.P. MUDALA has been formulated for the exploitation GIRIYAPPA: Will the Minister of of this energy; and INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (e) if so, the details thereof?

(a) whether the Doordarshan has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE decided to telecast the World Cup Football MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. Competition 1994 to be held in USA; RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) During the year 1993-94, the overall shortage in availability (b) the amount paid by Doordarshan of energy in the country was 7.3% while to get the rights of live telecast; and peak shortfall was 18.3%.

(c) the details thereof? (b) Yes, Sir.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) to (e). Based on existing data THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND from metereological stations, solar energy 255 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 256 availability ranging from 4 to 7 KW hour (d) if so, the details thereof including per square meter per day has been their location, capital outlay, etc.; estimated. While solar energy potential is considered to be large, practical utilisation (e) the details of the private will depend on availability of cost-effective companies including the multinational technologies. Two basic routes for foreign companies and NRI companies harnessing solar energy are being which have shown their eagerness to adopted, namely, solar thermal and solar participate in the Government's incentive photovoltaic. Several solar photovoltaic package; devices such as for lighting, water pumping, telecommunications, small (f) the details of the incentives that power supply for villages etc. aggregating will be availabie to them; to about 3-4 MW have been deployed. In addition, installation of two nos. of grid interactive demonstration solar (g) whether any MOU has been signed in this regard with any firm; and photovoltaic power plant of 100 KW capacity each has been taken at villages Kalyanpur and Saraisadai in Uttar (h) if so, the details thereof? Pradesh. A project for a 35 MW solar thermal power plant in Rajasthan has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF been proposed. Government has also THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE invited private entreperneurs for taking TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): up installation of MW range solar (a) Yes, Sir. Photovoltaic & solar thermal power plants largely through their own resources. (b) The Government has been contemplating to involve the Private Sector [English} including NRls in construction, maintenance and operation of fee-based Private Sector participation in facilities on National Highways in various Multicrore Road Projects States.

77. SHRI MOHAN RAW ALE: Will (c) Yes, Sir. the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (d) A Statement is enclosed.

(a) whether the Government have (e) and (f). The domestic/overseas recently thrown open a multi-crore worth companies including entrepreneurs for road projects and bridges to the Indian Private Sector partiCipation has been private sector and global companies! evincing interest and making enquiries. foreign investors on Build, Operate and Notwithstanding this, the broad modalities Transfer (BOn basis; of the proposal have not yet been finalised. It is, therefore, too early to (b) if so, the details thereof; specify the position at this pOint of time.

(c) whether a number of projects (g) and (h). Yes, Sir. A in this regard across the country have Memorandum of Understanding has been been identified; signed amongst the Government of India, 257 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

Government of Maharashtra and bypass on National Highway No. 4 in infrastructure Leasing and Financial Maharashtra State on Build, Operate and Services Limited in February, 1993 for Transfer (BOT) basis. The project is taKing up the construction of Panvel likely to be commissioned by 1996.

STATEMENT

Private sector participation in multi crore road projects

Name of Project State Approximate Approximate Length Cost (in kms.) (in Rs. million)

A. Bypasses

1. Hapur Uttar Pradesh 11 400

2. Moradabad Uttar Pradesh 20 600

3. Coimbatore Tamil Nadu 27 400

4. Akola Maharashtra 14 300

5. Amravati Maharashtra 18 300

6. Hubli-Dharwad Karnataka 30 400

7. Udaipur Rajasthan 17 250

8. Nellore Ar:dhra Pradesh 18 250

9. Shillong Meghalaya 27 650

B. Bridges:

1. Bridges on Kullu bypass Himachal Pradesh 202

2. Bridges across Talpona & Galgibagh Goa 200

3. Varapuza bridge across Periyar Kerala 260

4. Sheonath bridge on Durg bypass Madhya Pradesh 240 (Including Durg bypass)

5. Second Vivekananda bridge West Bengal 2200

6. Jiabhareli bridge Assam 700

7. Nizamuddin bridge Delhi 430

8. Sharavathi bridge Krnataka 300

9. Second Narmada bridge at Zadeshwar Gujarat 450 259 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 260

Name of Project State Approximate Approximate Length Cost (in kms.) (in Rs. million)

C. Expressways:

1. Delhi-Kamal-Ambala Delhi and Haryana 200 10,000

2. Delhi-Ghaziabad-Kanpur Delhi & U P. 414 25,000

3. Kanpur-Varanasi Uttar Pradesh 310 20,000

4. Bombay-Surat-Vadodara Maharashtra & 375 45,000 Gujarat

5. Bombay-Pune Maharashtra 150 9,000

6. Faridabad-Noida-Ghaziabad Haryana & U.P. 45 3,000

7. Bombay-Nashik Maharashtra 145 B,700

B. Bangalore-Mysore Karnataka 140 9,000

9. Ghaziabad-Meerut Uttar Pradesh 49 3,000

ADB Assistance for Kakinada Port TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) The Asian Development Bank has 7B. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: granted a loan assistance of US $ 77.9 SHRI BOLLA BULLI million for the Kakinada Port Project. The RAMAIAH: Project envisages construction of three SHRI SULTAN deepwater berths, extension of SALAHUDDIN OWAISI: breakwater, dredging of the Port area and creation of related onshore and Will the Minister of SURFACE navigational facilities to facilitate handling TRANSPORT be pleased to state: of cargo. On completion of the Project, the Port is expected to handle about 3.00 million tonnes of additional cargo per (a) the extent to which the Asian year. Development Bank (ADB) has assisted Kakinada Port and the manner in which the Government will facilitate the handiing (b) The Project is expected to be at cargo and the quantum thereof; and completed by August. 1996.

(b) the time by which the port is Mining Leases in Gujarat likely to be completed and commissioned? 79. SHRI SHANKERSINH THE MINISTER OF STATE OF VAGHELA: Will the Minister of MINES be THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE pleased to slate: 261 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 262

(a) the number of proposals pending THE MINISTER OF STATE OF with the Union Government for grant of THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI mining leases in Gujarat as on March 31, SALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) to (cl. 1994; Prior approval of the Central Govemment is required for grant the renewal of prospecting licences and mining leases (b) the time since when these of minerals listed in Schedule-I of the proposals have been pending; and Mines and Minerals (Regulation and Development) Act, 1957. The position of such pending proposals pertaining to the (c) the reasons therefor? State of Gujarat is given below:-

1991 1992 1993 1994

Proposals for approval of Grant of Mining Lease 4

Proposals for approval of Renewal of Mining Lease 2

Proposal for approval of grant of Prospecting 8 13 3 Licence

Consultation with other concerned (b) the places where departmental Ministries and organisations, clarifications buildings for these offices are proposed from the State Government due to to be constructed during 1994-95; and incomplete and inadequate information sent with the proposals and unavoidable (e) the amount to be spent by the administrative delays are some of the Govemment for the purpose? reasons for the above pendency. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Post and Telegraph Offices in (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Allocation of Rajasthan targets for opening of post offices during 1994-95 has not been finalised as yet.

80. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWT: The number of telephone exchanges Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS proposed to be installed in Rajasthan be pleased to state: during 1994-95 is about 100 subject to availability of equipment, resources and minimum demand of 10 applicants. The (a) the number of villages and number of Telecom Centres having towns in Rajasthan where new post telegraph facility proposed to be set up offices, telegraph offices and telephone are 45. In addition, for combined posts exchanges are proposed to be set up and telegraph offices, it is proposed to during 1994-95; provide telegraph facility in 5 post offices. 263 WriNen Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 264

(b) and (c). Construction of new INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING departmental buildings for post offices be pleased to state: will depend on the availability of resources. The building plan for 1994-95 is yet to (a) whether the Doordarshan be finalised. propose to publish a magazine containing information about its programmes; For Telecom Centres/combined post and telegraph offices, no new buildings (b) if so, the objectives therefor; are proposed to be constructed. and

Construction of new departmental (c) the time by which the magazine buildings for telephone exchanges in is likely to be published and the details Rajasthan, which are in progress, in of price thereof? various places, is given in the Statement enclosed. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Only the b~ilding at Alwar is BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH expected to be fully constructed by 1994- DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. 95. However, these buildings are required for exchanges to be commissioned beyond 1994-95. (b) To keep the public informed of forthcoming programmes. The details regarding amount to be spent by the Government for these (c) The details are being worked buildings is being collected and will be out. laid on the Table of the House. {English] STATEMENT Rubberised Roads 1. Kota Vigyan Nagar 2. Balotra 82. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be 3. Ajmer pleased to state: 4. Alwar 5. Jaipur Bajaj Nagar (a) whether rubberised roads are proposed to be promoted in the country; 6. Palimarwar 7. Banswara (b) whether such a road had been made in Trivandrum district by the Rubber {TranslationJ Board;

Publication of Magazine for (c) if so, the details thereof; Doordarshan Programmes (d) whether rubberised roads ensure 81. SHRI BRIJBHUSHAN SHARAN savings in terms of maintenance and SINGH: Will the Minister of safety; and 265 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 266

(e) if so, the details thereof? Verification of Antecedents for Passport THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE 84. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): SINGH: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (a) The promotion of rubberised roads in AFFAIRS be pleased to state: the country can be considered only after findings of the Research Schemes already (a) whether a Deputy Secretary of taken up become available. the Govemment of India can verify the antecedents of a person applying for an (b) and (c). Resurfacing in one Indian passport; kilometre length on the State Highway in the Kerala State is understood to have (b) whether the Passport Office been done in 1973 by the State Public takes no cognisance of a verification Works Department in collaboration with certificate issued by an officer holding the Rubber Board. similar or even high position with a different nomenclature of post in the (d) and (e). It is too early to Government of India; comment on the over-all likely savings in terms of maintenance and safety in (c) if so, the reasons for respect of rubQerised roads. discrimination among officers of the same rank but with different nomenclatures; P.M.G. Offices (d) whether the Passport Office 83. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: takes no cognisance of a verification Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS certificate issued by an officer of the rank be pleased to state: of Deputy Secretary and other officers of similar rank with different nomenclatures (a) the number of P.M.G. Offices of their posts in the Lok Sabha and Rajya opened so far during the Eighth Five Sabha Secretariats; and Year Plan, State-wise; and (e) if so, the reasons for (b) the number of s'..lch offices to discrimination between an officer of similar be opened during the remaining period rank in the Govemment of India vis-a- the said plan, State-wise? vis Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha Secretariats? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No PMG office MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS has been opened so far during the Eighth (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (e). A Five Year Plan. Verification Certificate for the purpose of passport application may be got signed by any of the following: (b) There is no proposal at present for opening of PMG offices during the remaining period of the Eighth Five Year (i) A Deputy Secretary/Director/Joint Plan. Secretary/ Additional Secretaryl 267 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 268

Special Secretary/Secretary/ (f) the steps taken to speed up the Cabinet Secretary to the Govern- completion work of these plants within ment of India. the stipulated period?

(ii) A Joint Secretary/Additional THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Secretary/Special Secretaryl MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. Secretaryl Chief Secretary to a RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) The number of State Government. thermal power units commissioned during the last three years in the State of (iii) A sub-Divisional Magistratel Gujarat, is given below: Additional District Magistratel District Magistrate of the district of residence of applicant. Year No. of Capacity Units (MW) (iv) A district Superintendent of Police/Range Deputy Inspector 1991-92 6 448 General ot Policellnspector General of Police/Director 1992-93 7 691 General of Police of district of residence of applicant. 1993-94 3 307

Officers have been specified for (b) to (f). Only the Gas Turbine the purpose on the basis of their Unit-3 (131 MW) of Gandhar Combined jurisdictional responsibilities and functional Cycle Gas Station of N.T.P.C. was designations. The questions of programmed to be commissioned during discrimination, therefore, does not arise. 1994-95. This unit has since been synchronised in May, 1994. {Translation]

Power Projects of Gujarat [English}

85. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Iron are dust in Bastar Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 86. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA (a) the number of thermal power VERMA: Will the Minister of STEEL be plants set up in Gujarat during the last pleased to state: three years; (a) whether iron ore dust has (b) whether the Government accumulated in 8ailadila in 8astar district; propose to set up thermal power plants and in Gujarat during 1994-95 also;

(c) if so, the details in this regard; (b) the steps taken/proposed to be taken by the Government to utilise the (d) the details of stages in which iron ore dust? these plants are lying pending; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (e) the time by which the projects THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI likely to be completed; and SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. 269 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 270 (b) However, the demand for fines (b) As on date, the following power from Bailadila increased considerably with projects are proposed to be set up by the commissioning of Visakhapatnam the foreign investors (including NRI and Steel Plant, which is based on Bailadila joint venture proposals) in Gujarat: fines. Some quantity of fines is being exported also. There is likely demand of 1. Paguthan GBPP (654.70 MW) fines for new steel plants/pellet plants of Gujarat Torrent Energy expected to come up based on Bailadila Corporation Ltd/Siemens, fines. It is anticipated that the demand Germany (Prov. cost Rs. 2178.14 may for exceed the expected production crores). of fines which may necessitate reclamation from dumps which in turn will liquidate 2. Lignite based TPS (250 MW) of the dumps. Eisenberg Group of Companies, Israel (Prov. cost Rs. 875 crores). Foreign companies participation in Power Sector (c) and (d). The Paguthan GBPP located at village Paguthan, Dislt. 87. DR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the Bharuch, has been cleared by CEA and Minister of POWER be pleased to state: is likely to be commissioned by 7/96. The commissioning of second project would be known after the project has been (a) the criteria being adopted by accorded techno-economic clearance. the Union Government for acceptance of offer from foreign companies to set up STATEMENT power plants in Gujarat; Details of the policy to encourage (b) the total investment offered by greater private investments in power the foreign companies in this regard generation and distribution to tap additionality of resources during 1993-94 and the amount of investment out of it accepted by the The following are the details of the Union Government; scheme to encourage greater private sector participation in the electricity (c) the location and time frame for generation, supply and distribution: this power plant; and • The Indian Electricity Act, 1910 and the Electricity (Supply) Act, (d) the details thereof? 1948 have been amended to bring about a new legal, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE administrative and financial MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. environment for private RANGAYVA NAIDU): (a) The details of enterprises in the Electricity the pol~cy to encourage private sector Sector. investment in Indian power sector including Gujarat are given in the Private Sector can set up . Statement enclosed. Acceptance of offers thermal projects (coaVgas) and from foreign private companies is within hydel projects and wind/solar the competence of the State Govt. energy project of any size. 271 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 272

Electricity Projects where the applicable to foreign investment total outlay does not exceed in the power sector. Rs. 25 crores need not be submitted to the Central The rates for depreciation in Electricity Authority for respect of assets have been concurrence. liberalised.

Private sector companies can With the approval of the set up enterprises to operate Government, import of either as licensees or as equipment for power projects generating companies. will also be permitted in cases where foreign supplier(s) or All private companies entering agency(ies) extend concessional the Electricity Sector hereafter credit. will be allowed a debt-equity ratio upto 4:1. The customs duty for import of power equipment has been A premium of 20% of the total reduced to 20% and this rate outlay should be eqUity. has also been extended to machinery required for Promoter's contribution should modernisation and renovation be at least 11 % of the total of power plants. outlay. A five year tax holiday has Not more than 40% of the total been allowed in respect of outlay can come from Indian profits and gains of new Public Financial Institutions. industrial undertakings set up anywhere in India for either To ensure that private generation or generation and enterpreneurs bring in distribution of power. The five additionality of resources to the year tax holiday will begin from sector, not less than 60% of the year of generation of power. the total outlay for the project must come from sources other The excise duty on a large than Public Financial institutions. number of capital goods and instruments in the power sector Upto hundred per cent (100%) has been reduced to a lower foreign equity participation can rates. be permitted for projects set up by foreign private investors. The 16% return on the foreign equity included in the tariff can The condltion of dividend be provided in the respective balancing by export eamings foreign currency. which is normally being applied to cases of foreign investment Fixed costs can be recovered upto 51 % equity will not be at 68.5% PLF. Attractive 273 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 274

incentives are prescribed for cost (for expansion projects performance beyond this PLF. also) as against 1% over RBI rate as it was before. Flexibility has been allowed in including insurance in the Special appropriations to meet project cost. debt redemption obligations

For generating companies the following incentives are offered:" Agreement between NTPC and Oustees of NCPP Normative parameters under which generating companies will 88. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: operate have been notified Will the Minister of POWER be pleased which inter alia provide for 16% to state: rate of return on the paid up and subscribed equity. (a) whether the oustees of villages Generating companies operating in district Ghaziabad of Uttar Pradesh coal based, gas based and whose land was taken over by the hydro projects can sell power National Thermal Power Corporation or. the basis of a suitably (NTPC) for the construction of the National structured two part tariff. Capital Power Project (NCPP) have been agitating for the last several weeks for Government of India may fulfilment of their demands; consider extending a counter gurantee for the payment (b) if so, the details of the land obligations cf State Electricity taken over for the project by the NTPC, Boards to the private power the details of the project to be constructed companies on the specific and the main demands of the oustees; request of the concerned State Government. (c) whether any agreement has The specific incentives for Licensees are: recently been arrived at between the oustees and the NTPC; and Licences of longer duration of 30 years in the first instance (d) if so, the details thereof? and subsequent renewals of 20 years instead of 20 and 10 years respectively as it was THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE before. MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.v. RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) Yes, Sir.

Higher rate of return of 5% in place of the previous 2% above (b) The total land taken over by the the RBI rate. National Thermal Power Corporation Limited (NTPC) in district Ghaziabad is Capitalisation of Interest During 2463 acres, comprising 1514 acres of Construction (IDC) at actual private land and 949 acres of government 275 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 276 land. The details of the projects built on to approval of Uttar Pradesh State this land are as follows: Electricity Board (UPSEB), development activities in the villages, increase in 1. National Capital Thermal Power reservation for land oustees for shops in Project (4x210 MW) (Coal the township etc. In turn, the land oustees based). will allow uninterrupted work for completion of the balance work like ash handling etc. 2. Dadri Combined Cycle gas based power project (4x131 MW GT + Transport Projects of Andhra 2x146.5 MW ST). Pradesh

The main demands of the land 89. SHRI DATTATRAYA oustees with respect to NTPC are: BANDARU: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (i) Job for one member of each family or compensation of Rs. (a) whether several proposals are 1000/- per month in lieu thereof. pending for clearance with the Union Government regarding construction of (ii) Additional compensation for land. National Highways and bridges;

(iii) Vacating portion of the land (b) if so, the total number of such acquired used for graveyards, proposals received by the Union cremation grounds, fertilizer pits, Government from Andhra Pradesh; religious places. (c) since when these proposals are (iv) Development of affected villages pending for clearance; by providing various civic amenities and facilities. (d) whether a substantial amount has been sanctioned by the Union Government for this purpose; and (c) and (d). An understanding was reached with the representatives of the (e) if so, the details thereof? agitating villagers on 26.5.1994. The understanding covered the entire gamut of demands like reservations of jobs for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF land oustees in the skilled category, THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE assistance in education/training of land TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): oustees and their family members in (a) Yes, Sir. skilled trades, methodology for resolution of the demand concerning additional (b) Six estimates are pending. compensation, provision of infrastructural facilities for alternative land to be identified (c) Less than six months. by the village representatives for graveyards, cremation grounds etc., (d) and (e). No estimate for reduction in hospital charges for land development of National Highways in oustees, provision of a 11 KV or 33 KV Andhra Pradesh has been sanctioned so feeder sub-station for the villagers subject far during 1994-95. 277 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 278

Departmental canteen in [Translation] Broadcasting House Haj Pilgrims 90. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: Will the Minister of 91. SHRIMATI SAROJ INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING DUBEY: be pleased to state: DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: SHRI SULTAN (a) whether there is a Departmental SALAHUDDIN OWAISI: Canteen functioning in Broadcasting House, New Delhi under the Will the Minister of EXTERNAL Administrative Control of News Services AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Division, AIR, New Delhi;

(a) The number of the Indian Haj (b) if so, whether the Canteen has Piligrims died and injured in the stampede been allowed to make purchases of raw in 'Mina' (Saudi Arabia) recently; material from Private Contractor by ignoring the Governrnent Cooperative Stores, Super Bazar and Mother Dairy; (b) whether the Union Government and or the Government of Saudi Arabia propose to provide any financial assistance (c) if not, the action Government to the family members of the victims; and propose to take against the concerned officials for doing irregularities of making (c) if so, the details thereof? purchases from private contractors and ignoring Government Stores? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Identification of THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND the nationality of those killed in the BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH stampede in Mina is being done by Saudi DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. authorities with Consulate General of India-Jeddah making all efforts and (b) and (c). The raw materials viz. independent enquiries to ascertain the vegetable oil, Ghee, Sugar, Flour, Besan, facts in the case of Indian pilgrims. As Rice, Pulses, etc. are purchased from of now, it has been confirmed that 29 Government Cooperative Stores/Super Indian pilgrims died as a result of the Bazar/Kendriya Bhandar only. However, stampede in Mina, including 13 who had owing to acute shortage of staff, gone for Haj under the arrangement arrangements have been made with a made through Haj Committee, 6 who had Private Contractor for supplying certain gone from India on their own on daily consumables/perishable items like international passport and 10 Indians eggs, sliced bread, butter and vegetables residing in Saudi Arabia on work permit. on the same rates (even cheaper in In two other cases efforts are still certain cases) as are prevailing in Super continuing to establish the identity of the BazarlKendriya BhandarlMother Dairy etc. deceased. While a number of pilgrims As such there has been no case of any have been injured and discharged after financIal irregularity. treatment, Saudi authorities are not 279 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 200

maintaining nationality-wise records of (b) the extent to which these those injured. services have improved during 1993-94;

(C) whether all the villages are likely (b) and (c). Breaved families in to be provided with the said services; and India have been contacted through the Central Haj Committee in order to ascretain the need for assistance that (d) if so, the time which all villages may be required. Consulate General of wil be covered? India, Jeddah has also contacted rel"ltives of the deceased in Saudi Arabia to offer THE MINISTER OF STATE OF any help they may need. Such assistance THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS includes arrangements for their return (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. journey to India, transportation to Mandinah and facilities to contact their (b) There has been progressive families in India. Members of the Indian improvement in telephone, posts and Haj Medical Mission have been asked to telegraph services during 1993-94 as per pay special attention to those who Statement enclosed. sustained injuries in the stampede. (c) and (d). Telephone: Govt. have adopted a policy to provide telephone {English] facility to all the villages of the country progressively by March, 1997 subject to Post and Telegraph Services availability of resources.

Telegraph: Telegraph services are 92. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the provided wherever there is a demand Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be and traffic justification. pleased to state:

Postal: Post Offices are opened in (a) whether the Government have the villages which fulfil uepartmental norms decided to improve the telephone, post subject to availability of resources. In and telegraph services in Maharashtra; view of this, no time frame can be given.

STATEMENT Extent to which Telephone, Telegraph and Post Services have improved during 1993-94 in Maharashtra

(a) Telephone

Name of Service Parameters During the Year 92-93 93-94

1. Telephone Fault Rate % 14.8 14.9

2. Telex Fault Rate % 17.8 16.1

3. Local Call Success Rate % 96.8 97.9 281 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 282

Name of Service Parameters During the Year

92-93 93-94

4. Jucntion Call Success Rate % 95_3 96.8

5. STD Call Success Rate % 90.1 92.0

6. Trunk Call Efficiency % 82,4 82.2 (b) Telegraph SeNices (% of Telegrams delivered) 94.4 94_6

(c) Postal SeNices

During 1993-94, 80 extra departmental branch post offices and 19 departmental sub-post offices have been sanctioned for Maharashtra Circle.

[Translation] sian of mails between the metro cities in the country. This finds a brief mention in the news item referred to in the New Postal Services question.

93_ SHRI NARAIN SINGH CHAUDHARY: (b) The scheme called the Metro SHRI JAGMEET SINGH Channel Service envisages expeditious SRAR: transmission and delivery within 48 hours, SHRI RAM SINGH of pin-coded first class letter mails posted KASHWAN: in any of the six metro cities (listed in the Statement) which is meant for addressees in these six metro cities_ Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: A similar scheme called the Rajdhani Channel Service envisages (a) whether the Government have expeditious transmission of Pin-coded recently started new postal services in letter mails posted in Delhi and meant the country for the delivery of post at for six State Capitals (list given in a some places on the very next day as Statement and vice-versa)_ reported in the Hindustan Times dated April 16, 1994 captioned "Postal The Department is exploring the Department goes hi-tech"; and feasibility of extending the Rajdhani Channel Service to other State Capitals (b) if so, the details thereof? also in the next phase.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF No additional charge would be col- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS lected for the said services and these (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The Government systems have been designed by optimum has taken steps to expedite the transmis- utilisation of existing resources. 283 Written Answers JUNE 13,1994 Written Answers 284 STATEMENT

METRO CHANNEL SERVICE: Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Madras Hyderabad and Bangalore.

RAJDHANI CHANNEL SERVICE: Between Delhi and Chandigarh, Shimla, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Lucknow & Bhopal.

{English] Closure of Newspapers and Periodicals Godavari River 96. DR. BAHADUR RAWAL: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: 94. SHRI D. VENKATESHWARA RAO: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether there is any proposal to declare Godavari river as national waterway; (a) whether the Press Council of India has set up a committee to study the phenomenon of closure of newspapers (b) if so, the details thereof; and periodicals during the last few years;

(c) the extent to which It is likely (b) the details of the newspapers to help in the transportation of minerals and periodicals closed down during the and materials; and last three years; and

(d) the time by which a final deci- (c) the factors responsible for their sion is likely to be taken in this regard? closure?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANS- THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND PORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH and (b). Yes, Sir. A proposal for declaring DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. the river Godavari from Cherla to Rajah- mundry alongwith its delta canals. as (b) As per information available National Waterway is under consideration. with Registrar of Newspapers for India,. the details of the newspapers/periodicals (c) Development of the river Go- closed during 1990, 1991 and 1992 are davari as National Waterway is likely to given in the Statement-I. help in transportation of coal from Cherla! Manuguru coal mines to the users in and (c) Press Council of India's Com- around Rajahmundry area, to the extent mittee has in its· preliminary meeting of 2,00,000 tonnes p.a. by 2000 A.D. identified some basic factors prima-facie responsible for possible closure of (d) Most likely during the current newspapers and periodicals, which are year. given in the Statement-II. 285 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 286 STATEMENT-I

Number of newspapers/periodicals ceased (periodicity-wise)

Year Weeklies Fortnightlies Monthlies Quarterlies Total

1990 3 3 3 3 12

1991 2 3 7 13

1992 3 4

STATEMENT-II (j) Difficulty in getting competent joumalists.

(a) Competition from well established papers/new entrants. (k) Family disputes.

(b) Competition from electronic media Fish Processing Industries in leading to loss of advertisement Andhra Pradesh revenue.

97. DR. K.V.R. CHOWDARY: Will (c) Lack of advertisement support. the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: (d) Inadequate allocation of newsprint.

(a) whether the Government have (e) Unfavourable Govemment economic received any proposal from the Andhra pOlicies. Pradesh Government for setting up of fish processing industries in the State during 1992-93 and 1993-94; and (f) Intimidation by the police.

(b) if so, the details thereof? (9) Political Interference affecting the freedom of the Press. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCES- (h) Labour problems accentuated by SING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN Trade Unions. GOGOI): (a) and (b). No proposal to set up fish processing industries was. re- (i) Too many legal cases on the ceived from the Govemment of Andhra charges of defamation. Pradesh in this Ministry during the years 287 Written Answer.:: JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 288 1992-93, and 1993-94. However, during {English] the financial year 1992-93, this Ministry had received a proposal from the Andhra Demand by Federation of Indian Pradesh Fisheries Corporation Limited, Mineral Industries Hyderabad, seeking financial assistance for setting up of cold chain facilities in 99. SHRI TARA SINGH: the State. An amount of Rs. 39.50 lakhs SHRI G. DEVARAYA was released to them for this NAIK: purpose.

Will the Minister of MINES be {Translation] pleased to state:

Postal Services in Hilly Areas (a) whether the Federation of Indian Mineral Industries has demanded further liberalisation in the National Mineral 98. SHRI BALRAJ PASSI: Will the Policy; Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details of the demands made thereof; (a) whether the Postal services are quite unsatisfactory in hilly areas; (c) whether the Government pro- pose to examine these demands; and (b) if so, whether the Govemment have any proposal regarding launching a special scheme for speedy delivery and (d) if so, the details thereof? smooth functioning of postal services in hilly areas; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI BAL- RAM SINGH YADAV): (a) to (d). No, Sir. (c) if so, the details thereof? However, the Federation of Indian Mineral Industries has suggested some amend- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ments to the Mines and Minerals (Regula- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS tion and Development) Act, 1957. This (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). Consider- Act was reviewed recently by enactment ing the terrain and comparatively under of the Mines and Minerals (Regulation developed transportation network in hilly and Development) Amendment Act, 1994. areas of the country, the postal services No further amendments to it are are not as satisfactory as they are in contemplated for the time being. normal areas of the country. However, the services in these areas are constantly Sponsorship Money monitored and reviewed for improvements wherever necessary and feasible. There are, however, no proposals at present to 100. SHRI R. DHANUSKODI have a special scheme for speedy deli- ATHITHAN: Will the Minister of INFOR- very and smooth functioning of postal MATION AND BROADCASTING be services in hilly areas. pleased to state: 289 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 290

(a) the names of top ten firms that (a) whether the MTNL Bombay have paid maximum sponsorship money plans to extend the direct call facility to to Doordarshan during 1992-93 and important industrial and strategic town- 1993-94; ships beyond Kalyan (Maharashtra);

(b) whether there is any restriction (b) if so, the details thereof; and on the number of serials which can be sponsored at a time by any firm; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

(c) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH (b) Does not arise. DEO): (a) The details for the period 1992 to 1994 are as follows:- (c) Interdialling between non-adja- cent exchange systems falling under 1. Hindustan Level Limited, different-short-distance charging areas is not permissible under the existing rules. 2. Proctor and Gamble India Limited, [Translation] 3. Colgate Palmolive, Private Companies in Power Sector 4. Glaxo, 102. DR. LAXMINARAYAN 5. Tata Tea and Soaps, PANDEYA: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: 6. Brooke Bond India Limited, (a) whether certain private power 7. Nirma Chemical Works, companies have been invited by the Government for investment in power 8. Nestle India Limited, sector of Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan;

9. MRF, (b) if so, the names of such compa- nies and the extent to which the produc- 10. Dabur. tion of power likely to be increased in both the States as a result thereof; and (b) No, Sir. (c) the details in this regard? (c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Direct call from Bombay MiNISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) In the context 101. SHRI RAM KAPSE: Will the of paucity of resources with CentraVState Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be PSUs and SEBs and to bridge the gap pleased to state: between the rapidly growing demand for 291 Written AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Written AnswelS 292 electricity and supply, a policy to encour- been formulared in 1991 and is currently age greater investments by private enter- under implementation. prises in the power sector with the objective of mobilising additional resources (b) and (c). The details of proposals for capacity addition in power generation received from private sector companies and distribution in the country, including for setting up of power projects in MP Rajasthan and Madhya pradesh, had and Rajasthan are as follows:-

S. Name of Project Capacity Provisional Name of No. (MW) estimated cost Company (in Rs. Crs.)

I. Madhya Pradesh:

1. Pench TPS 420.00 1272.23 Century Power

2. Maheshwar HEP 400.00 1073.00 S. Kumars

3. Korba West Ext. 420.00 977.57 Mukand Ltd. Unit-5 & 6 TPS

4. Bhillai Captive TPS 500.00 1200.00 Steel Authority of India Ltd.

5. Tawa HEP 12.00 20.00 HEG Ltd.

fl. Rajasthan:

6. Chittorgarh TPS 500.00 1036.20 Century Textiles & Industries Ltd.

{English] (b) if so, the details thereof;

Fabrication losses at Rourkela (c) the reasons for giving an addi- tional 1.5 per cent allowance by the 103. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will Rou~la Steel Plant to certain companies the Minister of STEEL be pleased to on account of fabrication loss; state:

(d) losses suff~red by the Aourkela (a) whether his attention has been Steel Plant as a resuH thereof; and invited to a newsitem published in the "Economic Times' dated May 16, 1994 captioned 'Catalyst firms duping fert, (e) the action proposed to be taken firms, ASP'; in this regard? 293 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 294

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF in the contract for reworking of platinum THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SON- rhodium scrap gauzes. MIs. Engelhard TOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. Industries Limited have clarified that in European countries most of the major (b) The gist of the news item as precious metal companies started charg- appeared in dated ing 1% handling charge from 1980 on- 16.5.1994 is reproduced below:- wards on the weight of precious metal which was manufactured into new gauzes MIs. Arora Mathey Limited and to meet effectively the rapidly escalating Hindustan Platinum Limited which refined costs that these companies were bearing rhodium platinum alloy used in the in respect of insurance, security, trans- manufacture of nitric acid charged all portation and processing losses. Since companies certain fee in addition to this handling charge was not admitted in claiming 1% refining loss as per India fabrication loss is 1.4% which international practice. In November, 1981 includes 1% handling charge plus 0.4% an additional 1.5% allowance was also fabrication loss. This was first admit1ed given by RSP on account of fabrication by National Fertilizers Limited, Nangal. loss. At current prices this loss works out to Rs. 6.5 lakhs per kg. These two The contract at Rourkela Fertilizer companies cream off Rs. 50 lakh annually Plant of RSF was signed subsequently in foreign excha~ge in guise of fabrication by incorporating similar clause. Since loss from National Fertilizer Limited then the contract is continuing in almost Nangal, Rashtriya Chemicals and all the Fertilizer Plants producing nitric Fertilisers-Trombay and Rourkela Steel acid. Plant. As per Engelhard Industries Limited U.K. a maximum fabrication loss of 0.4% could be allowed but in well run plants Indians in Yemen the fabrication loss is only 0.2%. As per Dutch Consultancy Organisation no 104. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Will fabrication loss occurs. In either case the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be maximum limit of 0.4% could be taken pleased to state: as international standard. In April, 1981 certain excise duties were levied on the refined alloy but were withdrawn in June, (a) whether 700 Indians living in Yemen have been deported to India due 1981. In the annual negotiations for revision of rates in November, 1981, to the disturbances in Yemen; these companies represented to RSP that new excise duties meant higher (b) if so, the total number of costs and therefore compensation was Indians still living in Yemen; .required. They also indicated that similar allowance had already been given by (c) The total number of Indians National Fertilizers Limited, Nangal. In died in Yemen due to the conflict; and this background these companies have been duping fe~ilizer companies as also Rourkela Steel Plant. (d) The protection being provided by the Govemment of India and the (c) to (e). Prior to 1981 the term steps taken to help and assist them and "Fabrication and Loss' was not included also to obtain their properties there? 295 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 296

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) 1564 Indians RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) A Statement living in Yemen have so far been evacu- showing details of the deficit of power in ated to India due to disturbances. Gujarat at present and the power loss in transmission annually is enclosed.

(b) The total number of Indians still (b) and (c). The scheme for Reno- living in Yemen is estimated to be in the vation and Modernisation of transmission vicinity of 1000. lines and sub-stations in Gujarat which inter-alia covers reconducting of 1500 (c) The Government has not re- CKt km of 132 KV lines and 1100 CKt ceived any report of Indians having died kms of 66 KV lines was sanctioned by due to the conflict in Yemen. the Government in March, 1992 at an estimated cost of Rs. 73.58 crores. The scheme is aimed at improving the (d) The Government has taken all reliability of power supply besides possible steps in this regard. These improving voltage profile and reducing include regular contact by the Embassy transmission losses in Gujarat power in Yemen, arrangements for evacuation, grid. financial assistance on arrival in India. STATEMENT

Transmission Losses Details regarding deficit of power in Gujarat at present are as under: 105. SHRI SHANKERSINH VAGHELA: Will the Minister of POWER (All figures in MU net) be pleased to state: April '94

(a) the deficit of power in Gujarat Requirement 2900 at present and the power loss in transmis- sion annually; Availability 2775

(b) whether the Government pro- Deficit 125 pose to give any assistance to the State to mode"Tlise its transmission system to (%) 4.3 reduce the transmission losses; and Peak Deficit

(c) if so, the details of the assis- (%) 16.5 tance provided to the State so far? 297 Written Answer.s JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answer.s 298 Details of the power loss in transmission, transformation, and distribution sys,em in Gujarat State for the year 1990-91 to 1992-93 are as 'under

Years T&D Losses

Quantam (MKWH) Energy loss (%)

1990-91 5414.23 23.71

1992-92 5BBB.OB 23.56

1992-93 5B02.13 22.20

Relations with South Africa (c) The Govemment in the process of forging strong links with the new 106. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: Government in South Africa in political, Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS economic, culturaL and scientific spheres. be pleased to state' Bodhghat Hydel Project (a) the number of Indians living in South Africa; 107. SHRI SUSHIL CHANDRA VERMA: WiU the Minister of POWER be (b) whether any talk/agreement has pleased to state: been reached with the newly elected Government of South Africa regarding (a) the latest pOSition regarding the interests of the Indians living there; clearance of the Bodhghat hydel project and in Bastar district of Madhya Pradesh;

(c) if so, the details thereof and (b) the names of power projects of other steps being taken to strengthen the Madhya Pradesh cleared for execution relations with the Government of South by the private companies, and the number Africa? of proposals of private companies received so far during 1992-93 and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1993-94; and MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) The number of (c) the action being taken in this South African citizens of Indian origin regard? residing in South Africa is approximately 1 million. The number of Indian families THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE residing in South Africa which have so MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRi p,v. far registered themselves with the Indian RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) Bodhghat (4x125 mission is 625. MW) Hydro-electric Project was techno- economically cleared by Central Electricity (b) No, Sir. Authority in November, 1978 and received 299 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 300 investment approval from the Planning In addition, a letter of Intent for Commission on 24.2.1979. Environmental Tawa Hydro-electric Project (12 MW) has clearance was obtained on 20.2.1985. been signed by MIs. HEG Ltd. However, However, the State Government has not no project report has been submitted by obtained forest clearance for the project. the promoters to the Central Electricity Authority. (b) and (c). Maheshwar Hydro- electric Project (10x40 MW) was consi- Expansion of Telephone dered acceptable, subject to certain condi- Exchanges tions by Central Electricity Authority on 12.11.1993 for execution by the private company Shri Maheshwar Hydel Power 108. DR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the Corporation Limited. Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: The following schemeS for installing thermal power stations in private sector (a) whether the Government pro- have been received in Central Electricity pose to expand the capacity of the Authority:- existing telephone exchanges in the country; 1 . Pench Thermal Power Station (2x210 MW) was appraised by Central Electricity Authority on (b) if so, the details thereof; and 16.11.1993 and found acceptable from Technical aspects. Its exe- (c) the progress made so far with cuting agency was Mis. Century regard to expansion and conversion of Power who have since withdrawn various telephone exchanges' into elec- from the project. tronic ones in Gujarat, district-wise?

2. Korba West Thermal Power Sta- tion, units 5 & 6 (2x210 MW) has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF been given in principle clearance THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS by Central Electricity Authority on (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 4.1.1993 and can be considered for Central Electricity Authority's (b) There is a plan to expand the techno-economic appraisal after capacity by 23.11 lakh net lines during all the clearanceslinputs are tied- 1994-95. up by the project authorities. Its executing agency is MIs. India Thermal Power Ltd. (c) As per Statement I and II. 301 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 302(

STATEMENT-I

Status of Electronic Exchanges in Gujarat Circle (District-wise) as on 1.4.94.

SI. Name of District Total Electronic Capacity Total. No. Exchanges Exchanges of Electronic Eqp. Cap. exchanges

1 . Ahmedabad 92 74 1,28,200 230550

2. Baroda 59 50 47,124 73059

3. Surat 58 50 64,764 90274

4. Rajkot 88 80 35,098 62673

5. Nadiad 111 98 19.604 42454

6. Bhavnagar 66 55 10,212 25862

7. Bhuj 101 65 16,128 25373

8. Jamnagar 69 51 7,568 23078

9. Junagadh 77 55 21,614 30419

10. Bulsar 54 38 16,272 30832

11. Mehsana 102 87 30,688 41500

12. Amreli 52 41 6,220 8595

13. Himatnagar 90 77 13,880 21860

14. Palanpur 80 77 15,012 18312

15. Surendranagar 54 52 8,712 15737

16. Bharuch 49 47 8,224 22724

17. Godha 60 51 10,920 14380

Gujarat Circle 1262 1048 4,60,250 777685 (1.4.94) 303 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 304

STATEMENT-II

Progress from 1.4.94 to 31.5.94

51. Name of SSA Expansion Conversion Total No.

1. GMTO Ahmedabad 184 184

2. GMTO Baroda 384 384

3. GMTO Rajkot 32 56 88

4. GMTO Nadiad 272 56 328

5. TOM Bhavnagar 64 64

6. TOM Bhuj 88 88

7. TOM Junagadh 8 8

8. TOE Himatnagar 568 568

9. TOE Amreli 176 176

10. TOE Palanpur 320 320

11. TOE Bharuch 456 456

Total Gujarat CirGie 2464 200 2664

Doordarshan and Akashwani (b) if so, the location therefor? Kendras in Andhra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 109. SHRI OATIATRAYA BAN- THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND DARU: Will the Minister of INFORMA· BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased DEO): (a) Yes, Sir. Doordarshan has to state: envisaged schemes to set up 3 studio centres, 4 HPTs and 30 LPTsNLPTs in (a) whether the Government have various parts of Andhra Pradesh covering fixed any target to set up Akashwani and tribal areas under Eighth Plan. All India Doordarshan Kendras in Andhra Pradesh Radio has also a number of schemes to particularly in tribal areas during the strengthen the coverage in Andhra Eighth Plan period; and Pradesh including tribal districts, though 305 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 306 there is no scheme to set up a new radio (b) As given in the Statement station. • enclosed.

STATEMENT

No. Scheme Location

DOORDARSHAN

1. Studio Facility Vijayawada

2. Studio Facility Warangal

3. Studio Facility Vishakhapatnam

4. High Power Transmitter Warangal

5. High Power Transmitter Nandyal

6. High Power Transmitter Kumool

7. High Power Transmitter Rajahmundri

8. Low Power Transmitter Paderu

9. Low Power Transmitter Bheemavaram

10. Low Power Transmitter Hindupur

11. Low Power Transmitter Kuppam

12. Low Power Transmitter Allagadda

13. Low Power Transmitter Kavali

14. Low Power Transmitter Madanapalli

15. Low Power Transmitter Medak

16. Low Power Transmitter Kadiri

17. Low Power Transmitter Nirmal

18. Low Power Transmitter Nagarkumool 307 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 308

No. Scheme Location

19. Low Power Transmitter 8ellampally

20. Low Power Transmitter Marcapur

21. Low Power Transmitter Kamareddy

22. Low Power Transmitter Mandassa

23. Low Power Transmitter Emmiganuru

24. Low Power Transmitter Tamblapally

25. Low Power Transmitter LR pally

26. Low Power Transmitter Korangal

27. Low Power Transmitter Madhira

28. Low Power Transmitter PasraIWarangal

29. Low Power Transmitter Kosgi

30. Low Power Transmitter Wanaparthy

31. Low Power Transmitter Vishakhapatnam

32. Low Power Transmitter Pedanandipadu

33. Low Power Transmitter Chintapally

34. Very Low Power Transmitter Srisailam

35. Very Low Power Transmitter Paderu

36. Very low Power Transmitter Parvatipuram

37. Very Low Power Transmitter Ichchapuram

ALL INDIA RADIO

1. Upgradation of Transmitter Power Tirupati (from 3 KW FM to 2x5 KW FM) 309 Written Answets JYAISTHA 23, t91S (SAKA) Written AnSWBts 310

No. Scheme Location

2. Establishment of 2x5 KW FM Vishakhapatnam Transmitter for CBS

3. Increasing the Transmitter Hyderabad Power from 50 KW MW to 200 Kw MW

4. Replacement of 10 KW SW Tr. Hyderabad by 50 KW SW Transmitter

[Translation] {English]

Food Processing Units Eastern Region Electricity Board

111. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the 112. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA Minister of FOOD PROCESSING RAO: INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: SHRI SULTAN SALA- HUDDIN OWAISI: (a) the details of proposals cleared in 1993-94 for the setting up of food Will the Minister of POWER be processing units in Gujarat; pleased to state: .

(a) whether the Eastern Region (b) the number of such proposals Electricity Board (EREB) held a high level pending with the Union Govemment; and meeting with the officers of his Ministry and national bodies related with power (c) the steps being taken for their generation; speedy disposal? (b) if so, the points discussed in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the meeting; THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESS- ING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN (c) whether any concrete results GOGOI): (a) Nine proposals for setting have been achieved in this regard; and up of 100% Export Oriented Units for manufacture of fruit and vegetable (d) if so, the response of the products have been approved during Government to the points raised by the 93-94 for Gujarat. Out of nine, five are EREB? to be located in the District of Ahmedabad, two at Baroda, one at Mehsana and one THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at Sural. MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAYYA NAIDU): No, Sir. (b) Nil. (b) to (d). Do not arise in view of (c) Does not arise. answer to (a). 311 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Wriften Answers 312 [TranslationJ THE MINISTE'R OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No. of electronic Electronic Exchanges telephone exchanges set up/planned is as under:- 113. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of COM- MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Year No of exchanges set up

(a) the number of the Electronic 1992-93 386 Telephone Exchanges set up in Rajasthan during 1992-93 and 1993-94 1993-94 368 and proposed to be set up during the rest· of the period of the Eighth Five Year During the rest of the period of 8th Plan; Five Year Plan (1994-97) about 450 Nos. of electronic exchanges are planned (b) whether the Government are to be set up in Rajasthan, subject to formulating any scheme to provide tele- availability of resources, phone to all the applicants in the waiting list in Jaipur by the end of current year; (b) Yes, Sir. and (c) Details are given in the attached (c) if so, the details thereof? Statement. •

STATEMENT

It is planned to clear the waiting list of Jaipur city by the end of the current financial year (1994-95) by installing the exchanges as per details given below

SI. No. No. of Lines Type of exchange

1. 20,000 New technology Siemen's

2. 20,000 -do-

3. 20,000 -do-

4. 13,000 E-10-8 exchanges expansions

Total 73,000 lines 313 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKAl Written Answel's 314

[English] (c) the expenditure incurred thereon; and

Graphite in Andhra Pradesh (d) the steps proposed to be taken by the Government for its exploitation? 114. DR. K.V.R. CHOWDARY: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Geological Survey of India (GSI) has (a) whether the Geological Survey carried out detailed surveys for locating of India has conducted a survey for graphite deposits in the Eastern Ghats locating fresh deposits of graphite in coastal belts of Andhra Pradesh. coastal areas of Andhra Pradesh; The details of graphite resources estimated by GSI in these areas are as (b) if so, the details thereof; below:-

West Godavari district-

Reddi Bodair deposit 17,600 lonnes of graphite with 20% fixed carbon.

East Godavari district-

Burugubanda deposit 94,500 lonnes of graphite with 12% fixed carbon.

T apasikonda deposit 15,000 tonnes of graphite with 15% fixed carbon.

Marrikonda deposit 22,500 tonnes of graphite with 8% fixed carbon.

Visakhapatnam district:-

Kuppametta deposit 48,000 tonnes of graphite with 10 to 20% fixed carbon.

Kokkirapalli deposit 44,000 tonnes of graphite with 3 to 5% fixed carbon. · 315 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 316 (c) An expenditure of Rs. 44,36,819 Certification of Film Songs was incurred by GSI. 116. SHRI TARA SINGH: (d) Deposits are being exploited by SHRI MANORANJAN private lessees. BHAKTA: SHRI G. DEVARAYA Power stations by NTPC in Gulf NAIK: Countries Will the Minister of INFORMATION 115. SHRI V. SREENIVASA AND BROADCASTING be pleased to PRASAD: slate: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: (a) whether the Doordarshan has recently taken a decision to certify film Will the Minister of POWER be songs before telecast; pleased to state: (b) if so, the reasons for adopting (a) whether the NT PC has offered dual censorship policy of film songs to its expertise to run and manage power be shown on large and small screen; stations in Gulf countries; (c) whether such a step of the (b) if so, whether the officials of the Government is not encouraging film NTPC have recently conducted tours to producers; and Gulf countries in this regard; (d) if so, the further reaction of the (c) whether any MOU has been Government thereto? signed by any firm in Gulf countries; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) if so, the details thereof and the THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND conditions of the agreement? BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO): (a) No, Sir. Only those film songs, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which are duly cleared by Central Board MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. of Film Certification are telecast on Ooor- RANGAYYA NAIOU): (a) and (b). Officials darshan. of NTPC visited Saudi Arabia in April, 1994 and Oman and United Arab (b) to (d). Do not arise. Emirates in May, 1994. During these visits, discussions were held with Review of Advertising Policy concerned organisations to explore pos.sibilities for NTPC to provide services 117. SHRI A. OHANUSKOOI in the commissioning of power plants as ATHITHAN: Will the Minister of INFOR- well as their operation and maintenance. MATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (c) No, Sir. (a) whether the Government pro- (d) Does not arise. pose to review its policy on advertise- 317 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 318 ments in the electronic media to make (d) if so, the details of the recom- it competitive; mendations and the action taken by the Government thereon; and (b) if so, the details thereof? (e) if not, the time by which the (c) whether the viewership of Door- Committee is likely to submit its report? darshan programmes varies according to the time of the programme; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SON- TOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) if so, whether the Govemment propose to have a different set of adver- tising facilities for Doordarshan according (b) A one man Committee consist- to the time allotted for each programme; ing of Justice K.B.N. Singh (Retired Chief and Justice, Patna and Madras High Court) has been constituted by Chairman, Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) to en- (e) if so, the details thereof? quire into the gas leakage from a ruptured pipe line in Bokaro Steel Plant on 22.4.94. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND The terms of reference of the BROADCASTING (SHRt K.P. SINGH Committee are as follows: DEO): (a) and (b). Review of the policy covering advertisements on the electronic (i) Find out the causes leading to the media is an ongoing process. incide!1t, and assess the damage of equipment and assets; (c) Yes, Sir. (ii) Recommend remedial measures (d) and (e). Doordarshan already. to avoid recurrence of such inci- has a differential tariff structure for com- dent; and mercial advertising. (iii) Fix up the responsibility, if any. Gas leakage at Bokarc Steel Plant (e) and (d). The Committee is likely 118. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will to submit its report to Chairman, SAIL, the Minister of STEEL be pleased to by 30th June, 1994. state: sro system in Maharashtra (a) whether an el1quiry committee has been constituted by the Steel Authority 119. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the of India Limited to enquire into the gas Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be leakage at the Bokaro Steel Plant; pleased to state:

(b) if so, the details thereof; (a) whether STD system in Maharashtra is working properly; (c) whether the Committee has submitted its report; (b) if not, the reasons therefor; 319 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 320

(c) whether it is also a fact that Post offices functioning in Gujarat state calls from Delhi and other places of the as on 31/12/93. country do not materialise for months together; and (b) to (d). The posts reserved for SCs/STs are filled according to reserva- (d) if so, the reasons therefor and tion policy. The categorywise details the remedial steps proposed to be taken thereof are: to redress the grievances of the people in this regard? OIC 10833

THE MINIST:::R OF STATE OF SIC 3141 THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. SIT 2321

(b) Does nol arise. DAVP Advertisements to Newspapers (c) No, Sir. 121. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (d) Does not arise. BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

SC/ST Posts in post offices in (a) whether dailies, weeklies, fort- Gujarat nightlies and monthlies published from Gujarat have been given DAVP adver- 120. DR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the tisements during the last three years; Minister of COMMUNICATiONS be pleased to state: (b) if so, .the details thereof;

(a) the number of post offices (c) the newspaper-wise amount functioning in Gujarat; given during the same period; and

(b) whether the posts reserved for (d) the details of newspapers whose SCs/STs have been filled up in the above requests were not accepted for adver- offices according to the reservation policy; tisements?

(c) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH (d) if not, the reasons therefor? DEO): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The details are given in the Statement enclosed. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (d) During 93-94, requests from the (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) There are 8896 following publications from Gujarat could 321 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 322 not be accepted for issue of advertise- 3. Yuva Mello, Gujarati Weekly, ments:- Manavadar.

1 . Bharoach Times, Gujarati Daily, 4. Gandhi Nagar Samachar, Gujarati Bharoach. Daily, Ahmedabad.

2. Challenge, Gujarati.Daily, Ahmed- 5. Samajvad, Gujarati Daily, abad. Junagarh.

6. Gandhi Nagar, Gujarati Daily, Gandhi Nagar.

STATEMENT

Names and place of publications, periodicity and net amount of advertIsements paid to publications from Gujarat

51. Name and Place of Net amount (Rs) No. Publication 1993·94 1992·93 1991·92

2 3 4 5

Dailies

1. TImes of India. Ahmedabad 235827.00 254805.00 236314.00

2. Indian Express, Ahmedabad 341273.00 393474.00 482383.00

3. Westem Times, Ahmedabad 160107.00 234411.00 243339.00

4. The Economic Times, Ahmedabad 9302.00 15288.00 26039.00

5. Indian Express. Baroda 187303.00 98853.00 .00'

6. Young Leader, Ahmedabad 51772500 404251.00 178751.00

7. Times Press International, 56354.00 64047.00 4560.00 Ahmedabad

8. Prasarah, Dahod 30492.00 13054.00 9848.00

9. , Ahmedabad 130690.00 160771.00 64634.00

10. Alp Viram, Ahmedabad 22934.00 15563.00 .00' 323 WriHen Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 324

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11. Gujarat Vaibhav. Ahmedabad 131470.00 .00· .00 •

12. Herald Young Leader. Baroda 28090.00 .00· .00 •

13. Sandesh. Ahmedabad 2144868.00 1075448.00 1582201.00

14. Gujarat Samac-har. Ahmedabad 3019075.00 2968050.00 1689068.00

15. . Surat 237372.00 214473.00 140146.00

16. Phul·Chaab. Rajkot 441431.00 430673.00 365073.00

17. -Jansatta. Ahmedabad 38253.00 54197.00 61792.00

18. Loksatta-Jansatta. Rajkot 20713.00 4884.00 16829.00

19. Loksatta·Jansatta. Baroda 93067.00 147787.00 13947.00

20. GU). Mitra and Guj. Darpan, Surat 339603.00 363470.00 326092.00

21. , Rajkot 347750.00 408255.00 309143.00

22. Jal Hind. Ahmedabad 64822.00 61506.00 55216.00

23. Shri Nutan Saurashtra. Rajkot 90563.00 48622.00 21705.00

24. Saurashtra Samachar. Bhavnagar 143722.00 189226.00 93687.00

25. Prabhat. Ahmedabad 87920.00 101607.00 141123.00

26. Kutch Mitra. Bhuj 179135.00 196395.00 134757.00

27. Lok Raj. 8havnagar 18035.00 24718.00 8986.00

28. Pagdandi. 8havnagar 61129.00 55781.00 19495.00

29. Vadodara Samachar. Baroda 80638.00 85967.00 67627.00

30. Nayapadkar. Anand 81199.00 78988.00 77181.00

31. Sandesh. Baroda 644360.00 507095.00 449317.00

32. . Ahmedabad 165227.00 239266.00 193697.00 325 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 326

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33. Gujarat Samachar. Baroda 225335.00 222711.00 213934.00

34. Times of India. Ahmedabad 16026.00 119348.00 202039.00

35. Sandesh. Suraj 174407.00 202818.00 148715.00

36. Janma Bhoomi, Ahmedabad 429.00 7293.00 7106.00

37. Gujaral Samachar. Rajkol 100341.00 123948.00 10053.00

38. Sandesh. Rajkol 146178.00 81635.00 39773.00

39. . Ahmedabad 85704.00 29955.00 7934.00

40. Valsad Times. Valsad 23935.00 2340.00 .00'

41, Hamlog. Patna 16996.00 1300.00 .00'

42. New Sural Times. Sural 53680.00 1490.00 .00'

43. Karnavali ExprQss, Ahmedabad 8846.00 .00' .00'

44. Financial Express. Ahmedabad 28251.00 .00' .00'

45. Janyug. Surandranagar .00' 00' 10952.00

46. Hindu. Ahmedabad 224029.00 220210.00 183635.00

47. , Jarnnagar 95992.00 140844.00 114420.00

48. Bhoomi. Jamnagar 90402.00 98962.00 53743.00

49. Akita, Raikol 156322.00 122964.00 98811.00

50. Saurashtra Bhoomi. Junagadh 53780.00 50836.00 31161.00

51. Western Times, Ahmedabad 129755.00 158722.00 171166.00

52. Sanj Samachar. Rajkol 77710.00 46061.00 41645.00

53. Chanchal, Bhuj 28395.00 32609.00 22066.00

54. Yugprabhav. Baroda 20567.00 9035.00 4552.00 327' Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 328

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55. Navnirman, Sural 28147.00 12412.00 30508.00

56. Bindu, Ahmedabad 21944.00 22261.00 2882.00

57. Good Evening, Jamnagar 14645.00 16233.00 6682.00

Weeklies

58. Sadhana, Ahmedabad 7805.00 7706.00 3694.00

59. Phulwadl, Rajkol 6231.00 9743.00 10672.00

60. Siree, Ahmedabad 30169.00 21536.00 37139.00

61. Amrula, Rajkot 15322.00 10579.00 8720.00

62. Charotar Bhoomi, Anand 11728.00 10396.00 16078.00

63. Malru Bhoomi, Kambhal 8918.00 7326.00 16410.00

64. Maha Gujarat, Patan 9321.00 5887.00 7323.00

65. Ramban. Rajkol 5260.00 4680.00 4680.00

66. Vyapar Udyog, Ahmedabad 17514.00 35694.00 22858.00

67. Gujarat Times, Nadiad 22775.00 13409.00 14839.00

68. Panchmahal Vartman, Godhra 6485.00 5220.00 6786.00

69. Satyakam. Bharuch 5260.00 4680.00 4915.00

70. Kheda Vartman, Kheda 7718.00 5220.00 8526.00

71. Janyug, Rajkot 5260.00 4680.00 5564.00

72. Lok Bhooml, Borsad 8918.00 7326.00 15207.00

73. Taralam, Jamnagar 6365.00 4680.00 4680.00

74. Chanakya, Jamnagar 5260.00 4680.00 440.00

75. Janta Soar, Jamnagar 5260.00 4680.00 4680.00 329 ,Wrltlen AnsHIs JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answem 330

2 3 4 5

16. Gurjar Sandesh, Godhra 6609.00 5220.00 3596.(1()

n. s8rvodaya, Kapadwanj 5260.00 4680.00 4680.00

78. Deep Kamal, ~hambhat 6609,00 5220.00 5720.00

79. Mahasaurahstra, Aajkot 663.00 3380.00 2790.00

80. Agekadam. Petlad 8726.00 5220.00 4067.00

81. Mayur Bhumi, MOM 5730.00 1170.. 00 4212.00

82. Gujarat Prabha. Surat 7348.00 5220.00 11644.00

83. Gujarat Prabha, Bharuch 9563.00 7429.00 8646.00

84. Cheti Chand, Nadiad 6365.00 4680.00 4900.00

85. Kekarav, Visnagar 6365.00 3380.00 4212.00

86. Samaya, Surendra Nagar n18.00 5220.00 6902.00

87. Pinal TImes, Patna 5260.00 4680.00, 4680.00

88. Tamanna, Ahmeda,bad 8918.00 3380.00 1212.00

89. Outdoor-Indoor, Ahmedabad 6609.00 .00' .00'

90. ,Shuj Samachar, Bhuj 3050.00 .00' .00'

91. Gujarat Today, Ahmedabad 4759.00 29955.00 .00'

92. Kathiawar TImes, Aajkot .00' .00' 4212.00

93. Gram Sahyobi, Rajkol .00' .00' 3673.00

94. Hamsafar, Patan .00' .00' 3132.00

95. Swarajya, Palanpur .00' 5220.00 6496.00

96. Uttar Ganga, Mehsana .00' 4880.00 4800.00

4284.00 97. Dlvadandi, DIsa .00' .00'

96. Sewa Sandesh, Dahoo .00' .00' 4212.00 331 Written Answets JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answe~ 332

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99. 'Yuvadrashan, Bombay '.00· 8436.00 16519.00

100. Prerana Patrika, Baroda .00· .00· 4212.00

101. Chetak Chakra, Ahmedabad .00· .00· 4212.00

102. Rashtriya Prem, Ahmedabad 6365.00 5148.00 2007.00

103. Sachai, Ahmedabad 7294.00 5148.00 5712.00

104. Jhuleial, Ahmedabad .00· .00· 3042.00

Fortnlghtlies

105. Dharma Sandesh, Ahmedabad 4080.00 800.00 .00'

106. Niranjan, Rajkot 4250.00 4800.00 m1.00

107. Rang Tarang. Ahmedabad 5783.00 .00· 897.00

108. Adarsh Pariwar, Rajkot .00' .00' 3884.00

109. Yojana, Ahmedabad .00' .00· 2574.00

Monthlies

110. Jyotishdeep, Ahmedabad 2975.00 2091.00 270B.00

111. Sakhi, Ahmedabad 6384.00 6113.00 9220.00

112. Strae Jiwan, Ahmedabad 768.00 450.00 580.00

113. Arthsankalan, Ahmedabad 1275.00 900.00 1184.00

114. Arthik Vikas, Ahmedabad 2955.00 2085.00 3432.00

115. Yojana, Ahmedabad 3077.00 .00· .00·

116. Krushi Vigyan, Rajkot .00' 4392.00 6052.00

TOTAL 12302592.00 11442130.00 8936338.00

"Publication not bome on, 1Ile panel during the year. 333 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKAl Written Answ8fS 334 [Translation} businessmen, namely that India offers innumerable opportunities for trade and Projection of India's Image investment.

122. SHRt D. VENKATESWARA [English] RAO: SHRI BOLLA BULLI New Sponge Iron Plants RAMAIAH: 123. DR. K.V.R. CHOWDARY: Will Will the Minister of EXTERNAL the Minister of STEEL be pleased to AFFAIRS be pleased to state: state:

(a) whether the Government have (a) whether the Government received any offers from various propose to set up sponge iron plants in advertising agencies in response to the the country, particularly in Andhra call given by the Ministry for presentation Pradesh; and of Indian view in the World Fora; (b) if so, the details thereof, State- (b) if so, whether the Government wise? have selected any agency for the purpose; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The Central (d) the extent to which these Govemment has no proposal to set up advertising agencies are likely to be new sponge iron plants in the country. helpful in projecting the image of India in various foreign countries? (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Development of Inland Water (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. The Transport System Government has received submissions from various advertising agencies for 124. SHRI V. SREENIVASA preparation of advertisements promoting PRASAD: India as an attractive destination for SHRI R.lUNATH SONKAR business and investment. SHASTRI: SHRI G. DEVARAYA NAlK: (b) . No, Sir. Will the Minister of SURFACE (c) Does not arise, Sir. TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

(d) It is felt that these advertising (a) the details of the progress agencies wm be able to put across in an made so far with regard to the first attractive form the message that the national waterway and the proposals Government seeks to communicate to regarding the development of new ones; potential investors and foreign and 335 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 336 (b) the steps proposed to be taken purpose of acquiring new IWT to boost the inland water transport system Vessels. in order to make full utilisation of inland waterways of the country? (ii) Under the scheme of experimental-cum-promotional THE MINISTER OF STATE OF IWT operations by private THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE operators on the Ganga, it is TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): proposed to hire 2 nos. of 600 (a) In National Waterway No.1 (The tonnes capacity vessels by IWAI Ganga). a fairway of minimum 45 m from CIWTC Ltd .• and give them width is being maintained. Instructions to the private IWT operators free have been issued to the Inland Waterways of hire charges for a period of one Authority of India to maintain 2m depth. year. The facilities such as Channel marking for day navigation and terminals are (iii) Compensation of 10 paise per available. river KM tonne of cargo moved non-availability of infrastructural In National Waterway No. 2 (The facilities in the Ganga and the Brahmaputra). a fairway of minimum Brahmaputra. 45m width is being maintained. Instructions have been issued to the Inland Waterways (iv) No fees/charges for utilization of Authority of India to maintain 2 m depth. the waterways. The facilities such as Channel marking for day navigation and terminals at Dhubri and Pandu are available. (v) Loans to the extent of 50% to the State Govts. for development of IWT under the Centrally In National Waterway NO.3 (The Sponsored Schemes. West Coast Canal), a fairway of minimum 32m width and 2m depth is being maintained in Udyogmandal Canal and Chawandia Lime Stone Project Champakara Canal. In Kochi-Kollam stretch of West Coast Canal dredging is 125. SHRI TARA SINGH: Will the in progress in critical shoals so as to Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: facilitate vessel movement.

(a) whether the NMDC Limited has There is a proposal for declaring been in the process of changing the river Godavari from Cherla to terlns of contract for the Chawandia Lime Rajahmundry alongwith its Delta Canals Stone Project; as National Waterway.

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) In order to boost up Inland Water Transport, the IWAI are providing the following incentive schemes:- (c) whether certain ~rations have been taken out of the contract; and (i) Interest subsidy on most of the loan taken from banks for the (d) if so, the details thereof? ~7 Written Answers JYAIStHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written Answ8fS 338

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) In response to a question during THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRl the course of his confirmation hearings SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (c). The before the Near East and South Asia National Mineral Development Corporation Sub-Committee of the Senate Foreign Umited (NMDC) has examined the validity Relations Committee, US Ambassador- of the contract in respect o.f Chawandia deSignate to India Mr. Frank Wisner Ume Stone Project (Rajasthan) so as to ;;tated that Prithvi was an indigenously ensure that there is no violation of the produced missile of short range which provisions of the Contract Labour was not, so far as he knew, configured (Regulation & Abolition) Act, 1970. for a nuclear warhead. Wisner added that the US pOSition was that India should (d) The following items of work are consider the consequences of missile proposed to be removed from the scope deployments when tensions were already of the contract: high. He said that the Prithvi had not yet been deployed and hoped that {i) Loading into truck or tipper. Government of India would not undertake deployment. Regarding Agni, he said (ii) Transport of sized limestone to that, if deployed or built, it would be with Nagpur railway siding and concern about China in mind. He added unloading at loading yard for 46 that Agni, howe~r, was an experimental Kms. lead, and rocket and he was not aware whether any new round of 9'lCperiment was being contemplated by Government of India. (iii) By more categorically clarifying that the overburden removal, drilling and blasting will be done The US State DePartment issued by NMDC departmentally. a clarification on 31 May, 1994 that Ambassador Wisner was reiterating the US Views over AGNI long-standing position of the Uilited States which had been addressed in bilateral consultations with both India and Pa'kistan. . 126. SHRI CHANDERJEET YADAV: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) Government remain committed to a policy of determinir.g the course oi. India's missile programme on the basis (a) Whether the Government are of India's national security requirements. aware of the recent remarks of the US Ambassador designate to India Mr. Frank G. Wisner before the US Senate on the [Translation1 country's missile programme; Trafficking of Narcotic Drugs (b) if so, the facts 'thereof; and 127. SHRI PREM CHAND RAM: lc) the reaction of the Government Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAiRS thereto? be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether India had made any MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS proposal to set up a permanent cell in (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. Commonwealth to assist the member 339 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1rJ9,4 Written Answers 340 countries to deal with the problem of (f) if so, the value thereof and the illegal trafficking of narcotic drugs; details of minerals listed therein?

(b) if so, reaction of the other THE MINISTER OF STATE OF member countries thereto; and THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) The (c) the present position of the Sf lid recommendations of the International plOposal? Round Table Conference organised by the Ministry of Mines are listed in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Statement enclosed. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AF:FAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No, Sir. (b) Aerial reconnaissance can be done after due clearance from the (b) and (c). Does no'( ari~.e. concerned aviation authorities, Central. Government is empowered to relax the {English] ceiling on area of prospecting licences and mining leases. Geological Survey of Mining f;ector India has been asked to make the data available with them more accessible. The State Governments have also been asked 123. SHRI, D. VENKATESWARA to streamline the process of grant of P,AO: mining rights and other clearances, joint S'nRI SULTAN ventures in this sector are being SALAHUDDIN OWAISI: encouraged.

Wi',1 the Minister of MINES be pleasP;d to state: (c) No separate package of incentives has been envisaged for investment in the mining sector. (a) the main recommendations made at the 31 st 'International Round Table. Conference on foreign investment, (d) Does not arise. exploration and mining in India;

(b) the steps being taken to (e) and (f). It is understood that ~mplement these recommendations; CRA 'Exploration India Pvt. Ltd. has submitted application to the State Government of Andhra Pradesh for (c) whether a package of incentives prospecting license over an area of has been envisaged to accelerate foreign 24,000 Sq. Km. for diamond. Ashton investment in mining sector; Mining India Pvt. Ltd. has also submitted to the Govt. of Madhya Pradesh (d) if so, the details thereof; application for prospecting license over an area of 15,000 Sq. Km. for diamond. (e) whether some foreign The question of investment would arise investment has already been agreed after the grant of Prospecting license by upon by investors; and the State Governments concerned. 341 Written AnswelS JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 342

STATEMENT covered by prospective licences could also be considered. Recommendations of the Intemational . Round Table Conference on Foreign (ii) A price list of GSI reports and . Investment in Exploration and Mining reports of other Central and State in India held in New Delhi 25-27 Government agencies may be April, 1994. published. A tenement map of prospecting licences and mining Prospecting LicenceJMining Lease leases needs to be compiled.

(i) The system of reconnaissance (iii) A revolving fund may be created permits may be provided for in the with staggered mode of payment mineral legislation. for supply of information and data from GSI and other organisations.

(ii) Increasing the limits of areas for Single Window Clearance prospecting licences and mining leases may be considered favourably. In the case of In view of the large number of prospecting licences progressive agencies involved with clearance of reduction of areas may be provided application of prospecting licence/mining for. lease, evolving of a single window clearance system merits consideration. Arrangements for speedy issue of (iii) The question of easy access to environmental clearances may also be land for prospecting activities made. needs to be urgently addressed.

Royalty (iv) Time limit for processing of applications for prospecting (i) Since high rates of royalty licences and mining leases needs pose to be reduced. a major disincentive to attract foreign ·investors any where. rationalisation of existing rates of GeologicaUExploration Data royalty may be looked into.

(i) Geological/exploration data are (ii) Long term stability in rates of available with the various royalty merits consideration. organ;sations such as Geological Survey of Jndia, Mineral Fiscal Exploration Corporation, State Directorates of Mining and Geology and Indian Bureau of Mines. To (i) Setting up of a Mining Finance facilitate selection of areasltargets Corporation tor provision of funds for exploration by investors, all the for exploration and mine data in respect of particular areas development merits consideration. may be compiled and made available at a reasonable price. (ii) Exploration expenditure may be Increasing the levies for land treated as R&D expendi_ In 343 Written AnswelS JUNE 13', 1994 Written AnSwelS 344

view of the high risk involved and (a) whether Pakistan President uncertainity of results. Mr. Farooq Ahmad Leghari has sought America's active engagement in resolving (iii) Fiscal policy may be so structured the Kashmir dispute; as to provide adequate incentives for developing marginal prospects. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (iv) A comparative study may be made of mining and fiscal costs of (c) the reaction of the Government projects to be developed in India of India thereto? as well as in selected foreign countries to help assess the economic viability of investments THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for exploration/mining and design MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS for taxation cum policy packages (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). l:. Irv"lia. Government have seen reports to the effect that the President of Pakistan Joint Ventures during his visit to the US on May 20-31, 1994 sought that the US must remain Considering the expertise and highly actively engaged in addressing Kashmir skilled manpower available in India in issue. exploration/mining, the foreign investors may consider setting up joint ventures with both public and private sector enterprises. (c) Govemment are of the view that all differences between India and Project Agreements Pakistan, including aspects relating to J & K issue, should be resolved peacefully In the Indian context, the mechanism and through bilateral negotiations in of Project Agreements/Contract of Work accordance with the Simla Agreement used by certain countfies to attract foreign and there can be no role of any sort for investments in exploration and mining would any third party. merits consideration.

General Telephone Calls

Both in mineral legislation and 131. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH mining policy, provisions should be explicit SRAR: Will the Minister of and should not leave room for discretion. COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Kashmir Issue (a) whether attention of the 129. SHRIMATI GEETA Government has been drawn to the MUKHERJEE: news-item captioned·Jagraon flocked by SHRI VIJOY KUMAR ISO callers" appearing in the Indian YADAV: Express dated April 9, 1994;

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof; 345 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answ81S 346 (c) the action taken against the [Translation I persons found guilty; and Training Abroad (d) the further steps taken by the Government to prevent this type of 132. SHRI GIRDHARI tAL bungling taking place in other parts of the BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of country? COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) the criteria adopted for sending THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the officers abroad to get training; (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes Sir. (b) the number of officers of his Ministry went abroad to receive training (b) Departmental investigation was during the last three years; and conducted. However, the allegations contained in the news-item could not be (c) the total amount spent on the substantiated. officers for importing training to them abroad during the said period? (c) Does not arise in view of (b) above. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (d) Surprise inspections have been SUKH RAM): (a) A Screening Committee stepped up and CBI help is being taken of the Department of Telecom. selects the wherever necessary. Special investigation officers fortraining courses abroad keeping cells of CBI are being set up for in view the specialisation of the officer, his! metropolitan cities to deal with her experience, age, length of service and malpractices. A Bill is introduced in Lok . previous trainings etc. Sabha to further amend Indian Telegraph Act, 1685 providing for deterrent (b) and (c). A Statement indicating penalties against abetters as well as the number of officers who were deputed beneficiaries of malpractices like diversion abroad for training during the last 3 years of lines etc. and amount spent each year is. enclosed.

STATEMENT

SI. Year No. of Officers deputed Amount spent on foreign No. abroad for training training by the Department of Telecom.

1. 1991-92 64 Rs. 20 lakhs

2. 1992-93 42 Rs. 7.20 lakhs

3. 1993-94 289 Rs. 760 lakhs 347 Written Answerc JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 348

[Translation] (c) if so, the details thereof; and

Passport Racket (d) the penalty to be awarded to those who violate the model code· of 133. SHRI RAM KAPSE: conduct for obscenity? SHRI RAM NAIK: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Will the Minister of EXTERNAL BROADCASTING (SHRI K.P. SINGH AFFAIRS be pleased to state: DEO): (a) No, Sir. At present there is no proposal to set up a separate Censor (a) whether a major Passport racket Board tor Doordarshan programmes. has been busted by the Central Bureau of Investigation involving people having (b) to (d). Do not arise. connection with Bombay explosions; Indians Settled Abroad (b) if so, the facts thereof and the modus operandi of the racket as revealed 135. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: by the CBI; and Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) the steps taken to ensure that (a) the country-wise number of such rackets do not recur in future? persons of Indian origin settled in various countries; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) the efforts being made by the (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). The Govemment to provide protection to them; information is being collected, and will be placed on the Table of the House. (c) whether people of Indian Origin are often harassed and treated as second Censor Board for Doordarshan class citizens in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Programme Kuwait and Bangladesh; and

134. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: (d) if so, the facts thereof and the SHRI BOLLA BULLI steps being taken by the Government in RAMAIAH: this regard with the concemed foreign Govemments?

Will the Minister of INFORMATION THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE & BROADCASTING be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) A Statement (a) whether the Govemment have showing estimated number of persons of decided to set up a Censor Board to curb Indian origin country-wise is encfosed. depiction of obscenity on Doordarshan; Ib) Government keeps Itself (b) if so, whether any code of informed· on an on-going basis about the conduct has been formulated in this welfare of the overseas Indian community regard; in foreign countries. Persons of ~ 349 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 350 origin with foreign nationality are, however, (c) No, Sir. primarily the responsibility of the foreign Govemment concemed. (d) Does not arise.

STATEMENT

Statement of estimated number of persons of Indian origin world wide as on 31.12.93

SI. Name of the country Total No. Foreign Indian No. of Overseas Nationals Citizens Indians

2 3 4 5

1. Afghanistan N.A. N.A. Nil

2. Algeria 88 Nil 88

3. Angola 30 8 22

4. Auguilla 3 Nil Nil

5. Antigua 4 Nil Nil

6. Argentina 1,700 900 300

7. Armenia 179 Nil 179

8. Aruba 50 10 40

9. Albania 5 Nil 5

10. Australia 1,00,000 75,000 25,000

11. Austria 7,250 1,212 6,035

12. Azerbeizan 50 Nil 50

13. Bahamas 200 N.A. N.A.

14. Behrain 1,15,000 N.A. 1,15,000

15. Bangladesh 329 6 323

16. Belarus 106 Nil 106 351 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 352

2 3 4 5

17. Barbados.~ N.A. N.A. 69

18. Belgium 7,096 2,n9 4,317

19. Belize 680 120 560

20. Republic of Benin 250 Nil 250 (Gostonov)

21. Bhutan a 20,000 Nil 20,000

22. Bolivia 80 Nil 80

23. Bosnia & Nersegovina Nil

24. Botswana 2,700 20 2,680

25. Brazil 1,400 1,300 100

26. Brunei 9,208 Nil 9.208

27. Bulgaria 50 Nil 50

28. Burkina Faso 5 4

29. Burundi 250 75 175

30. Combodia 55 Nil 55

31. Cameroun 250 Nil 250

32. Canada 4,20,295 N.A. N.A

33. Cape Verde 2 Nil 2

34. Caynan Island 50 Nil 50

35. Central African Republic 8 7

36. Chad Nil Nil Nil

37. Chile 500 50 450

38. China 49 Nil 49 353 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 354

2 3 4 5

39. Columbia 58 Nil 58

40. Comoros 360 180 180

41. Congo 15 Nil 15

42. Costa Rica 109 78 31

43. Croatia 5 4

44. Cuba 37 9 28

45. Cyprus 312 12 300

46. Czech Republic 60 4 56

47. Denmark 1800 1200 600

48. Dominica 11 Nil. 11

49. Djibouti 365 15 350

50. Ecuador 5 Nil 5

51. Egypt 1,300 40 1,260

52. Eritrea 20 Nil 20

53. EI. Salvador 8 Nil 8

54. Estonia 11 2 9

55. Equitorial Guinea 30 Nil 30

56. Ethiopia 1,335 390 945

57. Fiji (as of December N.A. 3,52,000 N.A. 1989)

58. Finland 610 285 325

59. France 6,500 800 5,700

60. Gabon ~1 Nil 11 355 Written AnswelS JUNE 13, 1994 Written AnswelS 356

2 3 4 5

61. Gambia 98 6 92

62. Guatemala 12 3 9

63. Gennany 37,404 6,000 31,404

64. Georgia 30 N.A. 30

65. Ghana 1,200 160 1,040

66. Greece 3,355 Nil 3,355

67. Grenada 31 Nil Nil

68. Guinea 60 Nil 60

69. Guinea Hissau 11 Nil 11

70. Guyana 141 12 129

71. Hong Kong 20,400 7000 13,400

72. Hungary 94 93

73. Iceland 17 6 11

74. Indonesia 61,000 52,Q48 8,952

75. Iran 3,000 200 2,800

76. Iraq 854 2 852

n. Ireland 1,500 700 800

78. Israel 60,200 60,000 200

79. Italy 12,243 109 12,134

80. Ivory Coast 120 15 105

81. Jamaica 51,000 50,000 1,000

82. Japan 5,713 75 5,638

83. Jordan 2,500 6 2,494 357 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKAI Written Answers 358

2 3 4 5

,84. Kazakhastan 260 Nil 260

85. Kenya 69,400 62,750 6,650

86. Korea (Rep. of) 450 50 400

87. Korea (Oem. Rep. of) 16 Nil 16

88. Kuwait N.A. N.A. 1,50,000

89. Kyrghyastan 200 Nil 200

90. Latvia Nil Nil Nil

91. Laos PDf 128 Nil 128

92. Lebanon 10,000 Nil 10,000

93. Lesotho 200 5 195

94. Liberia 297 4 293

95. Libya 12,000 100 , 1,900

96. Luxembourge 162 N.A. N.A.

97. Madagascor 15,000 8,000 7,000

98. Malavi 5,000 4,700 300

99. Malaysia 17,20,000 17,00,000 20,000

100. Maldives 1,433 1,432

101. Malta 200 50 150

102. Mali 9 4 5

103. Mauritius 7,00,885 7,00,085 800

104. Mauritania 3 2

105. Mexico 129 5 124

106. Moldova Nil Nil Nil 359 Written Answer.s JUNE 13, 1994 Written AnsW8IS 360

2 3 4 5

107. Mongolia 14 Nil 14

108. Moutserrat 11 Nil Nil

109. Morocco 300 299

110. Macedonia Nil Nil Nil

111. Mozambique 23,000 22,600 400

112. Myanmar 5,00,000 4,92,034 7,966

113. Namibia 63 12 51

114. Nauru 50 Nil 50

115. Nepal 35,36,891 32,66,298 2,70,593

116. Netherlands 6,000 1,200 4,800

117. Netherlands Antilles 2,000 60 1,940 (Curacaost. Nearten)

118. New Zealand 26,980 23,980 3,000

119. Nicaragud 5 N.A. N.A.

120. Niger 13 12

121. Nigeria 15,000 1,000 14,000

122. Norway 5,300 2,500 2,800

123. Oman 3,00,000 380 2,99,620

124. Pakistan Nil Nil Nil

125. Panama 3,956 128 3,828

126. Paraguay 30 N.A. N.A.

127. Papua New Guinea N.A. N.A. N.A.

128. Peru 82 NO 82. 361 Written Answers JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKAl Written Answers 362

2 3 4 5

129. Philippines 10,000 1,500 8,500

130. Poland 80 2 78

131. Portugal 1,00,000 98,000 "2,000

132. Qatar 80,500 500 80,000

133. Reunion Island 1,80,150 1,80,000 150

134. Romania 46 4 42

135. Rwanda 360 120 240

136. Saharawi Arab Democratic Rep. N.A. NA N.A.

137. Sao-Tome Nil Nil Nil

138. Saudi Arabia 10,40,000 1,000 10,39,000

139 Senegal 52 27 25

140. Seychelles 5.400 5,000 400

141. Sierra Loone 500 35 495

142. Singapore 2,06,000 1,85,000 21,000

143. Somalia N.A. N.A. N.A.

144. South Africa 10,30,000 10,00,000 30,000

145. Spain 11,000 1,800 9,200

146. Sri Lanka 6,43,847 5,12,965 1,30,882

147. SI. Kittalevis 8 Nil Nil

148. St. Vincent and the 60 Nil 60 Grenadines

149. SI. lucia 35 34

150. Sudan 1,900 145 1,755 363 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 364

2 3 4 5

151. Suriname N.A. N.A. 120

152. Swaziland 150 Nil 150

153. Sweden 11,051 9,339 1,712

154. Switzerland 4,716 879 3,837

155. Syrian Arab 409 408 Republic

156. Siovenin 30 Nil 30

157. Slovak Republic 19 Nil 19

158. T aajikistan 60 Nil 60

159. Tanzania 49,500 46,500 3,000

160. Thailand 85,000 75,000 10,000

161. Togo 235 15 220

162. Tonga 12 Nil 12

163. Trinidad Tobago 289 13 276

164. Tunisia 42 Nil 42

165. Turkey 151 Nil 151

166. Turks & Caicus Island 20 Nil 20

167. Turkmenistan 50 Nil 50

168. Uganda 1,500 1,000 500

169. Ukraine 838 Nil 838

170. U.A.E. 4,50,000 N.A. 4,50,000

171. U.K. 3,40,255 N.A. N.A.

172. U.S.A. 10,00,000 N.A. N.A. 365 Written Answers JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 366

2 3 4 5

173. Russia 1,800 3 1,707

174. Uruguay 10 N.A. N.A.

175. Uzbekistan 700 Nil 700

176. Vanuatu N.A. NA N.A.

177. Venezuela 280 30 250

178. Vietnam N.A. N.A. 135

179. Western Samon 30 Nil 30

180. Yewn, Rep. of 1,07,780 1,00,080 7700

181. Yugoslavia 21 20

182. Zaire 1200 550 650

183. Zambia 10,390 9,880 6,510

184. Zimbabwe 15,200 14,000 1,200

14,133,687 9,369,676 3,005,316

Notes:- Figures marked • as on 1.7.91 Figures marked e as on 1.12.92 NA means Not Available The totals of Column 3, Column 4 & Column 5 do not tally because figures for each of these columns lor several countries are not available.

Indian Council for Cultural (b) if so, the funds provided during Relations each of the last three years;

136. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will (c) whether periodical review and the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be assessment of these institutions are being pleased to state: done effectively;

(a) whether the Govemment provide (d) if so, the details thereof; and funds in the form of grants to the Indian Council for Cultural Retations; (e) if not, the reasons therefor? 367 Written Answers JUNE 13, 1994 Written Answers 368

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Union Government MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS have set up a Committee to examine the (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. The scope for further liberalisation in the Indian Council for Cultural Relations shipping industry; receives grants-in-aid fram the ministry of External Affairs. (b) if so, the terms of reference of the Committee and whether State (b) The details of the grant received Govemments' representatives have also during the last three years are as follows:- been included in the Committee; and

(Rs. in Crares) (c) if so, the time by which the Year Amount Committee is likely to submit its recommendations? 1991-92 13.50

1992-93 14.55 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE 1993-94 15.00 TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) and (d). The activities and the " programmes of the Indian Council for (b) A Group has been constituted Cultural Relations are regularly monitored to examine and make recommendations and viz., the General Assembly, the on the Indian national Ship-owners Governing Body and the Finance Association's request for further liberalising Committee. As per the Constitution of the the controls. This includes:-- C'Ouncil, the Governing Body has been entrusted with the responsibility for the supervision and control of the work of the (i) Review of guidelines on trade Council. Additionally, the ForeIgn Secretary licence policy for ships; is ex-officio Vice-President of the ICCR. The Financial Advisor in the Ministry of (ii) Proposal to issue safe Manning External Affairs is the Financial Advisor to Certificate Scales for all categories the Council and is a Member of the Finance of ships; Committee. This ensures that the activities and the programme of the Council are carried out within the framework of the (iii) Removal of Pre-conditions and other broad mandate given to the Council. restrictions attached with approval letter for acquisition of ships; (e) Does not arise. (iv) Setting up of time-bound norms for Shipping Industry clearance and approval of various types of ships; and 137. SHRI MV.v.S. MURTHY: SHRI BOLLA BULLI (v) Relaxation of age norms. RAMAIAH:

Wiu the Minister of SURFACE State Governments' representatives TRANSPORT be pleased to state: are not included in the Committee. 369 Re: Adjournment Motions JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA)Re: AdjournmenfMotions 370

(c) The group is expected to submit control the sugar price. therefore, I beg its report in the near future. to move Adjournment Motion.

Loans from Asian Development Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have already Bank given a notice to this effect, and it is under your consideration. It is a matter 138. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will of public interest which is related with the the Minister of STEEL be pleased to day to day life of common man. Sugar state: is being sold at the rate of Rs. 16.50 per kg. in the open market ... (/nterruptions) ... I wish to amend what I have stated, (a) whether the Steel Authority of actually the sugar price has gone up 10 India Limited has recently proposed a set Rs. 20.00 per kg. Why has il hapoened? of projects to the Steel Ministry which Was Ihe Government not aware o~ the involves taking of loans from the Asian probability of inadequate production of Development Bank; sugarcane and consequently having lesser production of sugar? Was it not (b) if so, the details thereof; and the duty of the Government to make prior arrangement for importing sugar? This (c) the reaction of the Governrnent Government has even not decided who thereto? would import the sugar. One Ministry blames the other while the concerned THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Minister rebukes his secretary in public. THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI What does the Prime Minister's SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. Secretariat do-only God knows?

(b) and (c). Do not arise. The way in which sugar prices have soared in open market-has caused a loss of crores of rupees. Not only the sugar industrialists, but the traders have also earned huge profit. This is summer 12.00 hrs. season, and the consumption of sugar is much more nowadays because of RE: ADJOURNMENT MOTIONS the season of marriages and festival time. Moreover, the aspect of importing [Trans/ationJ sugar from foreign countries should also be investigated. But the matter should be SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE discussed extensively before doing so. (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a This is our demand. It is nollhe first lime copy of Lok Sabha : Practice and that sugar scandal has taken place. In Procedure in my hands and I would like 1989 I was the Chainnan of Public to take advantage of one of the rules of Accounts Committee and Shri Sukh Ram it. who hails from Himachal Pradesh, was the concerned Minister, perhaps he has This particular rule gives right to still not forgotten the consequences he the hon. Mernbers to more Adjournment had to meet. Sugar is not always sweet, Motion to discuss a particular matter. sometimes sugar tastes sour, and this Since the Government have failed to the situation that prevails in the country 371 Re: Adjournment Motion JUNE 13, 1994 Re : Adjournment Motion. :372 at present. It is a very serious matter. important matter that the Parliament has Since it rs related with the life of common become the focus of attention throughout people, therefore, it requires immediate the country today. I do know that you attention. My adjournment Motion should would say that special session has been not be disallowed on the pretext that called to consider the Representation of price rise is a continuous process, and People (Amendment) Bill. that I should have raised it earlier? {English] Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wculd request you to allow discussion on the matter of MR. SPEAKER: I think, you need public interest. .. (Interruptions). The not predict what I am going to say. Government should also be given opportunity to clarity their stand on the [Translation] subject. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: (English] No please, the Government is likely to give such argument, I did not mean it SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA to you. Such arguments would be given (Midnapore): We have also given an to postpone the matter and delay the adjournment motion about discussion on it. The matters can be kept sugar ... (Interruptions) ... I hope you are undecided and discussion can be going to admit it... (Interruptions) .. disallowed but it is very essential to convey the dissatisfaction arising in public due to incessant increase in sugar prices. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI For this, we would condemn the CHATTERJEE (Dumdum): We have also Government, mere discussion on the given notices 10r adjournment motion. subject won't do.

[Translation] {English]

SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): We MR. SPEAKER: What is the have also moved an adjournment Government's stand? motion ... (lnterruptions) .. THE MINISTER OF WATER SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: RESOURCES AND MINISTER OF Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are other han. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI Members too who support my VIDY ACHARAN SHUKLA): According to motion ... (lnterruptions) ... the Rules of Procedure, it will be proper for the hon. Speaker to make a decision MR. SPEAKER: Notices of twelve in the matter. This can be discussed Members have been received. under a motion other than the adjournment motion. (Interruptions) SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, please do not make SOME HON. MEMBERS: No, no. undue delay in taking the decision. Such very important matters, at least, should SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: be disposed of quickly. It is such an The Rule Book here provides various 373 Re : Adjournment Motion JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Re : Adjournment Motion 374

contingencies. The hon. Minister has [Translation] already given a notice for making a suo motu statement on this subject. After THE MINISTER OF STATE OF hearing the statement of the Minister, the THE MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI House can decide whether a motion can KALPNATH RAI): Sir, I would like to be accepted for discussion. A discussion submit to all the hon. Members that they can be held in the House under various may please consult and discuss the rules which you may be pleased to matter.. (Interruptions}... I would give decide. Therefore, I would request you reply to all their questions. to let the Minister make a statement on this matter. (Interruptions) [English]

After that, you can take a view MR. SPEAKER: All right. I give my whether an adjournment motion is consent to the Adjournment Motion. I necessary or a discussion on an urgent have received notices from twelve matter of public importance can be held Members. It has to be balloted. So, we under other rules of the Rules of will ballot the names and than we will fix Procedure. the time. We may now go to the next item. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES (Muzaffarpur): We want to censure the SHRI NIRMAL KANTI Government. CHA ITERJEE: Who are those twelve Members?

MR. SPEAKER: That is very clear SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: when you have given the notice. When will it be fixed?

Well, before I decide on this point, MR SPEAKER: There are one or I would like to hear from the concerned two procedures to be followed. First of Minister. all, we will ballot the names. After balloting the names, the person whose name (Interruptions) comes in the ballot will be asked to raise the issue. Then, a particular number of Members will have te stand up and SHRI NIRMAL KANTI support the Motion. Then we will fix the CHAITERJEE: This is not a matter time. concemed with or confined to one Minister alone. Thousands of crores of rupees [Translation] have changed hands.... (Interruptions)

SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: The MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Minister, I matter should be discussed today itseH. don't want your statement now. I would like to know what you have to say on [English] what Shri Vajpayeo has said. MR. SPEAKER: Okay, we will try (Interruptions) to fix it today. 375 He : Exploitation/Killing of JUNE 13, 1994 Harijans in Phulbani, 376 Orrisa SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA your protection. I have also demanded (Midnapore): May I know those twelve that the Chief Justice of India should be names from whom you have received appointed as the head of the Inquiry notices? Committee to probe the situation. I also demand that adequate protection be MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry. The list given to the Harijans. There 'should be has gone for ballot. sincere attempts to create communal amity, mutual trust and brotherhood. I need your specific ruPng on this. The Central Govemment should react because 12.12 hrs. the State Government has expressed its inability. They have also confessed frankly RE: EXPLOITATION/KILLING OF that the situation in the Phulbani District HARIJANS IN PHULBANI, cannot be tackled even with the deployment of the entire forces in the ORISSA State. So, it is high time that the Centre should intervene. I have discussed the SHRI MRUTYUNJAYA NAYAK matter with the Home Minister also. (Phulbani): Sir, In the State of Orissa, in Every Member is agitated over this matter Phulbani District, there has been a large and I urge that the Home Minister should scale killing of Harijans. This planned and make a statement on the floor of the organised conspiracy by some political House. leaders is taking place in order to completely liquidate the Harijans in my SRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY constituency. This issue has been (Jagatsinghpur): Sir, I have also given a highlighted in the news media and also notice of the same issue. discussed all over the country in various forums. For the last three months, there MR. SPEAKER: No, please. has been a turmoil in my constituency and Harijans are being killed like anything. More than 15,000 Harijans have migrated THE MINiSTE9 OF HOME from my district. The neighbouring districts AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): This is are also being affected gradually. As a a very serious matter and ... result, there will be retaliation by both the communities, viz. the Harijans and the SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: Adivasis. This is a planned conspiracy Sir, before the Home Minister react, you because two rival leaders of the Janata should please hear me. Dal are engaged in the task of finishing each other. This will create communal SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Would you violence in the district. Even the Chief like to speak on the same issue? Minister and the Home Minister have openly confessed about it in the Assembly SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: in a statement. Harijans are being Yes, Sir, I have also given a notice on exploited. Irresponsible and provocative this issue. statements have led to communal clashes. I hold the Chief Minister Phulbani district was the most responsible for having created such peaceful district in our State where communal violence in my district. I seek Adivasis and Harijans, that is the 377 Re: Exploitation/Killing ofJYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Harijans in Phulbani, 378 Orrisa Scheduled Castes were living in harmony. MR. SPEAKER: The name will not For the last three months there was a form part of the record. killing spree, burning of houses and the State Government has comple(ely failed SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: to control the situation. It appears that They have taken a cue from the Chief the State Government wants to keep this Minister's statement made on the floor situation alive keeping in view the coming of the Assembly saying that the Harijans elections. Many manifestations are there. too exploit the Adivasis. This has Whatever they may do for elections, but intensified the trouble and 13 persons to create a disastrous condition in the have lost their lives. It is gradually . most peaceful and harmonious state spreading over to other parts of the where Adivasis and harijans live in State. This is a very serious situation and harmony is not a thing to be appreciated. it is time for the Government of India to It is a matter of concern for the whole intervene in the matter. I request the nation. Therefore, I urge upon the Home Government that in order to bring the Minister to comment on this and to communal harmony back between the inquire whether there is any instigation poor Scheduled Castes and Scheduled behind this and whether there is a plan Tribes who are made to fight among to keep it alive to make life miserable. themselves the Scheduled Castes and (Interruptions) Scheduled Tribes Commission should also rush to that place and try its best DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA to bring amity. An inquiry should also be (Balasore): I request that a Parljamentary conducted in this regard. Committee headed by the Home Minister should probe into the matter and that the SHRI CHANDRA SHEKAR (Ballia): entire Report should be laid on the Table Recently I was in Phulbani. The situation of the House. A sincere attempt should is quite serious there. I am surpnsed why be made to resolve the crisis which is the Government of India has not come agitating the whole country. It seems that out with any statement so far because all this is done due to the instigation of it is almost a month when this whole Janata Dal Party and the State thing had started. The situation is getting Government has completely failed to run worsened every day. I do not know about the administration of the State. the facts but I found during my two days' (Interruptions) visit to the place that most of the members of the public share the concern SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI expressed by various Members here. I (Deogarh): Sir, as stated earlier, it is a do not want to say anything about the very very serious situation which is Orissa Government or the Chief Minister prevailing in the most peaceful district of or the various statements that hav.e Orissa, that is Phulbani. Many reputed come out in the local Papers. But, if Press Reporters have made an on-the- people have this type of apprehension, spot study of the situation prevailing in it is a fit case where the Home Minister Phulbani and they have come out with should use his machinery to know the the observation that it is an outcome of facts and tell the people in clear and internal differences and group conflicts of unambiguous terms as to who is the Janata Dal Party in Orissa. They responsible for this type of crime. Phulbani have named one leader... (Not recorded) was the most peaceful tribal area and if who is inciting the people. in that tribal area this type of situation 379 Re : Exploitation/Killing of JUNE 13,1994 Harijans in Phulbani, 380 Orissa arises and it continues for more than a SHRI SIVAJI PATNAIK month, it should be the concern of (Bhubaneswar): Sir, some vested interests everyb.ody. I join the concern of every for their narrow ends had provoked these Member of the House and I hope the two exploited sections viz., the tribals and Home Minister must have investigated the Scheduled Castes. Further, the the matter and if he has not, then he statemen!..: should use his intelligence agencies and other agencies to find out the fact. MR SPEAKER: If you are making allegations against some persons who [Translation] are not able to defend themselves, it can be made against any other persons also. SHRI RABI RAY (Kendrapada): Mr. Speaker, Sir, we feel hurt in this regard. (Interruptions) The hon. Member Shri Mrutunjaya Nayak who belongs to that constituency has given SHRI SIVAJI PATNAIK: No. All a statement. I do agree with Shri those things have come in the Chandrashekhar that the entire country is newspapers. A separate statement was concerned about this particular matter made in the State Legislative Assembly regarding Orissa. The age old cordiality in also. After that, the main political parties the relations of Harijan-Adivasis has in that district viz., the Janata Dal and declined and it has been three months the Congress, none of them tried to since when the incidents to this effect have pacify the people there. I do not know been taking place. i would like to submit whether they wanted to take advantage that this should not be allowed to happen in of the situation. It is not a law and order Harijan-Adivasis. The Parliament holds affair of a State but it is a serious problem responsibility in this matter because the between the tribals and the Scheduled entire nation is concerned about it. Through Caste. It concerns the Central Government you, I would urge upon the hon. Minister of also. So, it is their duty also to take steps Home Affairs to take measures and but they had also failed in their duty. immediately restore peace there. The rift between harijan and Adivasis should not This is what I wanted to say. be allowed to widen. The Parliamentshould (Interruptions) appeal to stop such happenings in Orissa which encourage tension. The Central Government should direct the State MR. SPEAKER: You are very late. Government to take immediate measures to restore peace in the state. The hon. [Translation] Minister of Home Affairs should coliect the facts if he does not have, furnish them to SHRI KALKA DAS (Karol Bagh): the House and take measures to restore Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is your direction and peace there ... (lnterruptions) also the convention of·the House that the state matters are not raised in the House, [English] but the matters relating to scheduled castes and scheduled tribes have been MR. SPEAKER: Every Member raised in the past and the same has been need not speak. Be brief. repeated today with your permission. The

'Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 381 Re: Exploitation/Killing ofJYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAlOl) Harijans in Phulbani, 382 Orissa news regarding the incidents that took SHRI S.B. CHAVAN; Mr. Speaker, place as a result of tension between the Sir, I am in full agreement with what the Adivasis and Harijans in Phulbani have hon. Members are saying. It is a serious been appearing in the newspapers matter and we were under the impression everyday; it is a matter of concern. that the State Government will be able Thirteen people have been liquidated and to restore peace in that area. But the way the State Government is still not taking the entire thing has been handled and any action in this regard. Tension is the kind of allegations which some of the mounting there. I would like to know hon. Members have made, I will have to whether the Central Government intend get the report from the State Government to remain a mere mute spectator or first because that will be the authoritative would intervene. The hon. Minister of version. Home Affairs may please give a statement to aprise the House of the steps proposed I will have to ask the intelligence to be taken. Had the State Government agencies also. Though th~y gave me a tackled the situation on its own, it would very brief report, a detailed report will have been better. But the fact is that the have to be got from that area as to how State Government is watching while the the whole thing started and who, in fact, chasm between Harijans and Adivasis is is responsible. I cannot possibly disclose widening and killings are taking place. in the House as to what exactly the The hon. Minister of Home Affairs may intelligence agencies have reported to please give a statement in this regard. me.

{English] Thirdly, I will specially request the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes SHRI SARAT PATTANAYAK Commission to kindly go over there and (Bolangir): Please allow me to speak, Sir. also submit a report to the Government, as a special report, especially about this MR. SPEAKER: But this is area and thereafter we will consider as unending: to what needs to be done. (Interruptions)

SHRI SARAT PATTANAYAK: I will SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjeri): I may take only one minute, Sir. bring to the notice of this House through you, Sir, and also to be immediate MR. SPEAKER: What new thing attention of the Government the pathetic you are going to say? and miserable situation and sufferings of the 35 lakhs of coconut cultivators in SHRI SA RAT PATTANAYAK: Sir, Kerala due to the deep fall in prices of the State Government has dealt with this coconut in Kerala. issue in a political manner. Therefore, my request to the hon. Home Minister through The -Government has not taken any you is that at least the Central effective measures even when the Government should deal with this situation Government have the knowledge that the in a humanitarian way. He should solve benefit of oilseeds will also be made this problem because the State available to coconut cultivators. But Government has totally failed to solve nothing has been done so far. Even the this problem. support price fixed by the Government 383 Re : Exploitation/killing of JUNE 13, 1994 Papers Laid 384 Harijans in Phulbani, Orissa was quite inadequate. As a result of MR. SPEAKER: The han. Minister which 35 lakhs of cultivators and their may discuss this matter with the Members families are suffering like .anything. I do from Kerala. not know why the Govemment is just giving a deaf ear to such a serious Now, half-an-hour is over. situation faced by the people of Kerala. MR. SPEAKER: The lady member who is recently elected, it appears, is in Again, Sir, on the one hand there the House and she has asked whether is a fall in the prices of coconut, on the she can take the oath. I think she should other hand, the prices of all these be allowed to take the oath. If she is industrial products for which the coconut there, she may be called and she may oil has been used as a by-product, have take the oath. been going up. For example, soap and hair oil. Its estimated loss is Rs. 1,500 crores. But I just would like to avail of this occasion to urge the Minister of Agriculture to pay some attention to this 12.30 hrs. humanitarian problem. Therefore, he must also give due consideration to this burning MEMBER SWORN issue in Kerala. I think the Minister would just do something in this matter and Shrimati Lovely Anand Singh (Vaishali) some effective measures will be taken to save the situation in Kerala, which the hon. Minister knows much better than me. (Interruptions) 12.32 hrs.

SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA {English] (Kottayam): It is a very serious issue in the State of Kerala and for the last ten PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE years there is no Coconut Board there ... (Interruptions)... It is a very serious Notification under Governors problem. (Interruptions) (Emoluments Allowances and Privileges) Act, 1982

MR. SPEAKER: I have not called THE MINISTER OF HOME you. Your statement is not going on AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I beg to recor'd. lay on the Table a copy of the Governors (Allowances and Privileges) Amendment You should help to maintain some Rules, 1994 (Hindi and English versions) discipline in the House. I have called his published in Notification No. G.S.R. 475(E) name. You should sit down. in Gazette of India dated the 23rd May, 1994 under sub-section (3) of section 13 of the Governors (Emoluments, SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA: I Allowances and Privileges) Act, 1982. request the han. Minister to respond to it. It is a very serious matter. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-5986/94) 385 Papers Laid JYAISTHA23, 1916 (SAKA) Papers Laid 386

Ministry of Surface Transport, 18th February, 1994 Roads Wing (Chief Draftsmen) approving the Calcutta Port Recruitment Rules, 1994 and Major Trust Employees' (Leave Port Trusts Act, 1963, etc. Travel Concession) Third Amendment Regulations, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 1994. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (iv) G.S.A. 104(E) published in I beg to lay on the Table:- Gazette of India dated the 21st February, 1994 (1) A copy of the Ministry of Suriace approving the New Mangalore Transport, Roads Wing, (Chief Port Trust Employees Draftsmen) Recruitment Rules, (Festival Advances) 1994 (Hindi and English versions) Regulations, 1994. published in Notification No. G.S.A. 350(E) in Gazette of India dated (v) G.S.R. 103(E) published in the 31 st March, 1994 issued under Gazette of India dated the proviso to Article 309 of the 21st February, 1994 Constitution. approving the Port Trust Employees (Classification, Control and [Placed in Library. See No. LT 5987/94J Appeal) (Second Amendment) Regulations, 1994. (2) A copy each of the following Notifications (Hindi and English [Placed in Library. See No. LT 5988/94] versions) under sub-section (4) of section 124 of the Major Port (3) A copy of the Sailing Vessels Trusts Act, 1963:- (Assignment of Free Board) Amendment Rules, 1994 (Hindi and (i) G.S.R. 34(E) published in English versions) published in Gazette of India dated the Notificaiion No. G.S.R. 159 in 27th January, 1994 approving Gazette of India dated the 2nd the New Mangalore Port Trust April, 1994 under sub-section (3) {Rec.ruitment, Seniority and of section 458 of the Merchant Promotion) Eighth Shipping Act, 1958. Amendment Regulations, 1994. [Placed in Library. See No. LT 5989/94)

(ii) G.S.A. 58(E) published in Manipur Municipalities Ordinance, Gazette of India dated the 1994 (No.6 of 1994) Punjab 3rd February, 1994 approving Municipal Corporation Law the Cochin Port Employees (Extension to Chandigarh) (Recruitment, Seniority and Ordinance, 1994 (No.7 of 1994) Promotion) (Amendment) and New Delhi Municipal Council Regulations, 1994. Ordinance, 1994 (No 8 of 1994)

(iii) G.S.R. 101 (E) published in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Gazette of India dated the MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE 387 Standing Committee Report JUNE 13, 1994 Representation of the 388 People (Amendment) Bill DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENT OF a copy of the Seventh Report (Hindi and YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS) AND English versions) of the Department- MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Related Parliamentary Standing Committee OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI on Commerce on Spices. MUKUL WASNIK): I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the following Ordinances (Hindi and English versions) under article 123(2)(a) of the 12.34% hrs. Constitution:- REPRESENTATION OF THE (1) The Manipur Municipalities PEOPLE (AMENDMENT) BILL Ordinance, 1994 (No.6 of 1994) promulgated by the President on As reported by the Joint Committee the 24th May, 1994.

[English] [Placed in Library. See No. LT 5990/94] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (2) The Punjab Municipal Corporation MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND Law (Extension to Chandigarh) COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.R. Ordinance, 1994 (No.7 of 1994) BHARDWAJ): I beg to move for leave to promulgated by the President on withdraw a Bill further to amend the the 24th May, 1994. Representation of the People Act, 1951, as reported by the Joint Committee. [Placed in Library. See No. LT 5991/94] MR. SPEAKER: Do you want to say (3) The New Delhi Municipal Council something, Mr. Minister? Ordinance, 1994 (No.8 of 1994) promulgated by the President on SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Is there the 25th May, 1994. any objection for withdrawal?

[Placed in Library. See No. LT 5992/94] The House will recall that this Bill was introduced by me and now that the same provisions are being incorporated in another Bill which I am likely to 12.34 hrs. introduce after the withdrawal of this Bill and it is covered by the Rules of this House. Rule 110 provides for it, I am STANDING COMMITTEE ON competent and fully justified in withdrawing COMMERCE this Bill and there should be no objection to withdraw this Bill. Seventh Report MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: [English] "That leave be granted to withdraw SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR a Bill further to amend the RAWAT (Agra): I beg to lay on the Table Representation of the People Act, 389 Representation of the JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) People (Amendment) Bill 390

1951, as reported by the Joint [Eng/ish] Committee."

MR. SPEAKER: You have to say [Trans/ation] as to why the leave should be given and why the leave should not be given. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have not yet read out my objection and the hon. Minister has given [Trans/ation] his explanation. My objection was that under Rule 110 any Bill could be withdrawn SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: My under specific circumstances. The hon. submission is that introducing Bill and Minister did not clarify whether the withdrawing it time and again is a mockery provision in the Bill was to be scrapped of electoral reforms. We have no objection or a new Bill was proposed to be to introducing a comprehensive Bill introduced to replace the old one. Since containing the provision for state funding the start of the session we have been and other important provisions. The Bill demanding for the delimitation of seats introduced earlier provided provisions for for scheduled castes and scheduled tribes diesel and petrol supply, state funding but that has not been done. They are etc. Similarly, a Bill regarding the withdrawing the motion moved in Rajya recommendations of Goswami report has Sabha. still been lying pending with Rajya Sabha. The new Bill repeats only the provisions MR. SPEAKER: It is a Bill on made in the previous Bill, thus it is not People's Representation Act. at all a comprehensive Bill. It has been brought just with an intention to disqualify SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): the need to issue identity cards. It is The hon. Minister's proposal to withdraw being introduced to provide special the Bill is important from the point of view benefits for contesting elections to a that two Bills regarding electoral reforms particular political party. Therefore, I would are already under the consideration of urge upon the Government to bring a the House. In the meantime this Bill was comprehensive Bill providing for concrete referred to the Joint Select Committee. electoral reforms, otherwise the entire They discussed the pros and cons of the exercise of the Joint Select Committee Bill and submitted their report. Thereafter, and the decisions taken regarding electoral this Bill was introduced here. The reforms are likely to prove nothing more Government mentioned the reasons for than a mockery. Therefore, I would like withdrawing the Bill and introducing a the Government to bring a comprehensive comprehensive Bill to amend RPA, 1951. Bill in the real sense. However, my submission is that this Bill too contains no concrete provisions for SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr . electoral reforms. The members of BJP Speaker, Sir, I would like to repeat all have been demanding for a Bill regarding these points. electoral reforms for a long time inside and outside the House. The Government somehow managed to introduce the Bill MR. SPEAKER: No need to repeat. making the provision for all the electoral You may speak only if you have something expenses. new. 391 Representation of the People JUNE 13, 1994 Constitution (Seventy-First 392 (Amendment) Bill Amendment) Bill SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: I withdraw There is a need for it because the the Bill. Government has been repeating the process of introducing and then withdrawing the Bill in the House. Rajya Sabha had passed the Bill unanimously 12.42 hrs. whereas in Lok Sabha the Government is seeking permission to withdraw it, and CONSTITUTION (SEVENTY-FIRST also wants the other House to do the AMENDMENT) BILL same. I would like the Government to bring a comprehensive Bill in this session As passed By Rajya Sabha only or constitute a committee and introduce the Bill regarding electoral reforms in the next monsoon session, so [English] that their committment is realised and an effective electoral procedure is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE established. MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): Sir, I beg to move: SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: I would humbly request that the hon. Members "That this House recommends to may see that the' RPA enlisted at item Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do No. 8 in today's list of Business is the agree to leave being granted by same which I had introduced in the this House to withdraw the Bill House in 1993. I would like to introduce further to amend the Constitution it just now. Members of neither state of India, which was passed by have raised objection on the Bill. The Rajya Sabha on the 29th April, whole Bill has been consolidated into one 1992 and laid on the Table of this and all the provisions have been squarely House on the 4th May, 1992." covered under clause 10.

MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: {English] "That this House recommends to There can be no objection when all Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do the provisions of that Bill are incorporated agree to leave being granted to this there. House to withdraw the Bill further to amend the Constitution of India, which was passed by Rajya Sabha MR. SPEAKER: The question is: on the 29th April, 1992 and laid on the Table of th.e House on the 4th "That leave be granted to withdraw May, 1992." a Bill further to amend the Representation of the People Act, [Translation] 1951, as reported by the Joint Committee." SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose The motion was adopted. the Bill presented in the House by the 393 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 394

Hon. Minister of Law and I urge upon Dinesh Goswami Committee had also the members of all the parties to recommended that there should be an understand its implications. The leave arrangement for rotation because as had been sought to withdraw the eartier there are some seats reserved for people Bill. My colleague Shri Guman Mal Lodhaji belonging to Scheduled castes and and Mohan Singhji has opposed it. They Scheduled tribes, these have been opposed it with a view to make the reserved for them for years together Government introduce an comprehensive irrespective of the fact that the Bill in regard to electoral reforms. neighbouring constituencies have an Government should not adopt a policy of increased population belonging to fix-and-start, or in other words, first Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes introducing the Bill on an ad-hoc basis though their number of reserved seats and then withdrawing it. I feel that the has decreased. Keeping this in view the Bill presented last year in 1993 by the Committee made a recommendation for then han. Minister of law was a wrong an arrangement of rotation. The step and that is why it has been withdrawn Govemment should keep in view that this and this is a welcome step. But the Bill was not passed during the times of resolution which has just now been put Dinesh Goswami Committee but in fact up in the House to withdraw the Bill was it was passed unanimously in Rajya introduced by Shri Dinesh Goswamy. Sabha during the times of the present This resolution is in connection with the Government when Shri Kumaramangalam important recommendations made by who is present here, was the then law Dinesh Goswami Committee. This Minister and Bhardwajji had some other committee has considered certain points portfoliO and incidentally the leave is as to what is the total number of Members being sought today to withdraw the same since de-limitation has not taken place in Bill. But when it had been sent by Rajya the country for a long time and whether Sabha after being passed, some of our the existing number of members is enough Members developed a doubt that the etc. provision for rotation would affect delimitation and wondered as to what They were reminded of that also would be the results and it was decided that at the time of de-limitation of by Shri Kumaramanglam on behalf of the constituencies in 1951 , the average Government and in consultation with all number of voters for one General seat the parties that though normally, when of Lok Sabha was 7 lakh, it was more it is passed by Rajya Sabha, then we or less than that at different places. In also pass it in Lok Sabha but this time today's lok Sabha also there are some we can constitute a Select Committee to seats where the average number of have a consensus, and we had agreed. voters is one lakh to one and a half lakh. The Select Committee was constituted But as in 1991 the average number of and when this matter was put before it, voters has gone upto 14 lakh ranging the unanimous opinion l(I'as that there from 18 lakh in some place to 3-4 lakh should be delimitation. There was no in other places. That is why it was difference of opinion on that. The considered that de-limitation is very difference of opinion was only regarding important. The Dinesh Goswami rotation. The Government was in favour Committee had recommended that it of rotation but the Committee was not, should not be delayed. That is why, he yet the Government got it mentioned in had himself presented a Bill in 1990 but the report that they were in its favour. 395 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) Bill 396

[Shri Lal K. Advanij everYbody is unanimous but you are withdrawing it and adding it to some Our friend Shri Shahabuddin had some other Bill. objections which he had brought out in the Dissent Note but there was no I feel the reasons of withdrawal dispute as regards delimitation and an cited by you are completely unjustified. almost unanimous proposal had been It is a deliberate attempt to hamper the presented before the Government in the process of delimitation because the other form of a report. Bill may not get passed. This Bill is very likely to be passed with unanimity. But Now, what is this Government they are trying to withdraw a Bill which dOing? If the Government is really is going to be passed with unanimity. I interested in electoral reforms, then they urge upon the House to refuse to grant should get the delimitation proposal them the leave of the House to withdraw passed as it is c: very important aspect. the Bill. After getting it passed, they should then consider Constitution (Amendment) Bill It is my submission that the report or Representation of the People (Amend- submitted by the Select Committee ment) Bill. But since the provision for chaired by Shri Kumaramangalam, should rotation has been withdrawn from the be adopted as it is without any further unanimous report submitted by the Select dispute. Committee, now, it will have to be submitted to them. The Government will SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria}. Mr. present and very likely it will be passed Speaker, Sir, a Delimitation Commission there also because most of the parties used to be constituted for delimitation of agree with it. The delimitation process seats after the census as per the should not be suspended due to dispute provisions under the Constitution of India. on rotation. No matter what kind of As per the amendments to constitution opinion you have about rotation you passed during emergency the delimitation should start the process of delimitation process is to be undertaken after this because even this process takes one to century comes to an end. But according one and a half years. First of all, a Delimitation Commission is constituted to the census which took place in 1991, and only then the matters progress. That there has been a 3 per cent increase.in is why it should have been passed. They the number of Scheduled Castes and were going to make a provision for Tribes etc. and consequently the delimitation in the proposed Constitution questions have been raised in this (Amendment) Bill but it is yet to be Committee that the number of candidates presented and a new Article 324 (A) is in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha belonging being added regarding Election to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Commission which is disputed and Tribes should be increased in proportion different opinions have been expressed to the increase in their population. even publicly in the Chamber of Mr. Speaker also. When they are not It is their right and the Constitution unanimous, then, why do you want to ensures that But the Central Government jeopardise this also by adding it to the has stopped the delimitation process and Bill? If we are really interested in electoral the files are gathering dust. In the reforms, then, we should be interested beginning of this Session itself, Rajya in initiating delimitation on which Sabha had taken up this question and . 397 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 398

passed a unanimous Bill and then that moved by the Minister now, it would have Bill was presented here. The House to go to the Rajya Sabha and after the should have passed it there and then but Rajya Sabha has approved of that Motion, due to some apprehensions it had been then he will have to come once again referred to a Select Committee. It was to this House for withdrawal. So. the referred to the Select Committee in May, process has to be prolonged. It is not 1992 with a view that this Bill would be a question of process. I am talking of the passed in the forthcoming monsoon substance and the content of it. Session after quelling all the misconceptions and apprehensions. But SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: I the Central Govemment is withdrawing it am coming to· that. Therefore. today even after the lapse of two years and passing that earlier Constitution in fact it has been linked with some other (Amendment) Bill by this hon. House disputed Bill and which does not enjoy does not end the process. It has to go unanimous following in the House. I am to the Rajya Sabha for a proper of the opinion that this Bill should be consideration by the Rajya Sabha and passed in its original form and the other approval of the changes. Then. it can go disputed Bill should be separately to the Respected Rashtrapatiji. presented. Sir. I am on a different point. This I, therefore, urge upon the Session has been called for a purpose Government that the leave to withdraw which has been known to all the hon. this Bill, which is in the interest of the Members and the dates were also decided advasis, scheduled castes and scheduled by the hon. leaders of different parties tribes of this country, should not be including my learned friend. I believe given. Vajpayeeji was there at that meeting in this very campus and it was known that [English] a new Constitution (Amendment) Bill which has been circulated would be SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE taken up for consideration-passing or (Bolpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, so far as not passing, that is a different thing-along delimitation is concerned, there is no with the Amendment to the Representation dispute and everybody is in favour of it. of the People Act. Now, certain further But the question is. although the Rajya changes have been made. That Bill also Sabha had adopted the Bill along with has not been introduced. Therefore. one the recommendation of the late Dinesh Constitution (Amendment) Bill will be Goswami Committee report, this House introduced wherein provisions for felt it necessary to refer it again to a delimitation will be contained along with Select Committee which has given its other provisions plus a Representation of recommendation which. if adopted. will the People (Amendment) Bill will be mean another consideration by the Rajya taken up for consideration. These two Sabha. It will not become the law with Bills. at least, were in our hands although the President's consent. if we make they were not formally introduced in the changes in the Bill as adopted by the . House. What we have solemnly decided Rajya Sabha. that day. at least we should discuss that. That discussion is possible only if this SHRI LAl K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Motion is adopted. Otherwise, we cannot Sir, even the Motion that has been discuss that. Therefore, what was the 399 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) Bill 400

[Stiri Somnath Chatte~eeJ SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (Ballia): I did not want to say a word. solemn agreement that we arrived on But I was surprised by the speech made that day? by my hon. friend, Shri Somnathji that because the hon. leaders decided Sir, this unusual Session has been something to have this Special Session called in between the regular Budget in their wisdom, so we are duty bound Session and the Monsoon Session. to discuss something. Therefore, I submit that whatever may be our views about the merits of the Bill as I have not been able to understand and when they come, certainly we shall the wisdom to call this Special Session. make our submission. There is no What was the urgency? I have every question of compulsion that anybody respect for the leaders. But the should agree or disagree. Therefore, at Constitution should not be so lightly least let us take it up. Otherwise, the amended. The Constitution (Amendment) whole basis of calling this Session Bill should not be taken so non-seriously. becomes useless and we would have, I may be excused to use this word. The then, been indulging in futility, calling a Government of India shows its own mind Session of this House to discuss two Bills by proposing an amendment, withdrawing and then we do not do it on technicalities. the amendment and all that. I do not I submit that this is not correct. want to go into it. That has been the nature of things in today's parliamentary SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN practice which is alien to anybody who (Kishanganj): I am on a very specific knows something about the parliamentary point. procedure and dignity of parliamentary functioning. But that apart, that has been The han. Minister has said that the the standard to which we have stood to. Bill that he proposes to introduce contains I have nothing to say but it only shows the same provisions as the Bill which he fickle m indedness of the is seeking to withdraw. Government-they can pass the Bill, withdraw the same Bill and introduce I would like to bring to the notice another Bill. of the House that the Bill that he is seeking '.0 withdraw now contains an About the other thing that is going enabling provision in respect of article to be discussed in this House, about 327 of ~he Constitution, with regard to which Mr. Somnath Chatterjee is so possibiijty of rotating the constituency for particular, I think, this is an affront in the the purPose of reservation. The Bill which name of amendment of the Constitution. the Minister has now circulated does not The Constitution should not be amended contain this provision. Therefore, this is to favour an individual; the Constitution a different Bill altogether. This is one should not be amended to punish an thing that has to be taken into individual. The Constitution should be consideration that the new Bill which he amended in order to bring about social is seeking to introduce is new amendment transformation, certain basic changes in Bill and its provisions are not exactly the the functioning of the whole system. I am same as the provisions contained in the sorry to say this, Mr Speaker. There are previous Bill which is sought to be other provisions by which the Government withdrawn. could have taken a stand on those 401 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23.1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 402

· llatters and have punished a person. if are not bound by any assurance. This they think that the person is doing Bill should immediately be withdrawn and something wrong. But instead of facing should at least be post-poned till the July · the facts in all fairness and boldness, the Session. Government is trying to bring about such a thing which is not ideological. which is SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: The not a principled stand. But it is being Leader of the Opposition is sitting on the done because of the indecision of the other side. It is not without any reason Government of India, because they are that I consider him my ideal. He suffering from chronic indecision and sometimes strikes a point. · they want to use Parliament to bring them out from that catastrophe. 13.00 hrs. Parliament should not be used for this purpose. I see no reason why this House SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: should discuss a Bill which they are Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am his follower. If I proposing. Because it is not before the do not always strike a pOint then it means House. I do not want to make comments that there is something wrong with the about it, but that was unnecessary. ideal.

Mr. Speaker, I shall tell you very SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. humbly that you were advised by the Speaker, Sir, I would still like to make Government and by the leaders of the a submission to the Government that Opposition for a matter ... they should not introduce the proposed Bill to amend the Constitution. This way SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: I it would be in keeping with their dignity, said. a solemn decision has been taken. the dignity of the Constitution and the Even dates were fixed to accommodate dignity of the House. the political parties. It is my submission that you should MR. SPEAKER: In all fairness to consider what can be done with a Shri Vajpayee. I should say, he was unanimous decision and leave everything reluctant. else. It would preserve the dignity and honour of the House. [Translation] [English] SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker. Sir. I had SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): requested that the Session should not be Sir, I rise to oppose the withdrawal of the called so early and if we hac waited till Constitution (Seventy-first Amendment) the July Session it would not have made Bill. The Constitution (Seventy-first much difference but it was said that it Amendment) Bill, 1990 was introduced on had been decided. We were asked to 30th of May 1990 along with another give the dates which suited us. The Constitution Amendment Bill. Another dates, 7th and 8th June, were suggested. Constitution Amendment Bill, on the same Any decision could. have been taken day, was introduced in the Rajya Sabha. when we were in Vadodora. Though we So, the Seventieth and the Seventy-first took part in giving suggestions but we Amendment Bills were introduced on the 403 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) BiU 404

[Shri Guman Mallodhaj SHAI GUMA MAL lODHA: , am saying that it should not be withdrawn same day by the then law Minister Shri for the reasons which have already been Dinesh Goswami. The dual purpose was given by the hon. Member Shri La! K. that in the amendment which was moved Advani Saheb. The reason is that the as the Seventieth Constitution Amendment, withdrawal of the Constitution Amendment all the powers regarding the processing or Bill should not be allowed like the changes modalities of the Election Commissioner's in the nature of weather. It is not to be appointment were mentioned; that the Chief done like that. Today, in the morning they Election Commissioner would be appointed start doing ,one thing and in the evening by the President in consultation with the they withdraw it and again they introduce hon. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition something else. It is very unfortunate that of this House and also the Chairman of the Constitutional Amendments are taken so other House. That amendment was moved lightly. Even now it is not going to be in the Lok Sabhci on the same day. The a comprehensive amendment. The Seventieth Constitution Amendment Bill amendment which is sought to be made was having far-reaching consequences by the introduction of Article 324A, as relating to electoral reforms. The Seventy- has been said, is going to be most first Constitution Amendment was for controversial. It is not going to be allowed delimitation. As has been explained, it was because the entire country is against it. long awaited. This delimitation process Nobody wants that the free and fair started for consideration on 30th May 1990 election which is the basic structure of by the introduction of a Bill. Then, on 29th the Constitution, which is the basic feature of April, 1992, it was passed in the Rajya of the Constitution on which the entire Sabha. But it was reflmed to the Select democracy is based should be Committee in the Lok Sabha on 7th May, jeopardised. 1992. The Report of the Select Committee also came on the 18th December, 1992. Today, the position is that we are MR. SPEAKER: At this stage, no considering the Constitutional Amendment dissertation is required. and the Eighty-second Constitutional Amendment Bill was sought to be brought SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA:. I forward on 13th but it could not be done on submit that the Delimitation Commission's account of a very bold Ruling given by your provisions sections 81, 82, 170 and honour and that contains the provisions of 327---which are contained in this Bill Article 324A which is most controversial. should be passed. They moved that As the hon. Member has said, this meant these sections should be passed. Then, to just reduce in size, cut the powers and where is the question of withdrawal? It make the Election Commission, virtually would be a great injustice to the people the Chief Election Commissioner, defunct of India to allow them to withdraw it. and the Election Commission would become a sort of a tool in the hands of the [Translation] Government. Therefore, that process is going to be made. I am objecting to the withdrawal on this ground. SHAI CHANDAA JEET YADAV: (Azamgarh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, some big MR. SPEAKER: Why withdrawal questions have been added to this small should not be allowed? That is the moot question. I would like to say that Janata point. Dal is in favour of electoral reforms. Our 405 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 406

experiences so far tell us that it is the Bill which I have Circulated, the B3rd / need of the hour to go in for electoral amendment of the Constitution. That reforms and we should have a proper provision for re-adjustment of seats has discussion on that and try to have a been provided and delimitation is a unanimous decision on that. The only commitment which this Government gives question left is that the Government to the House. We are going ahead with wants to present a compcehensive Bill the delimitation as proposed by the Joint after withdrawing this Bill. It is correct Committee. So there is no going back that today the House is going to have on this issue. Only thing that the a special silling, no matter whether Committee recommended was that the anybody has an objection to that. But Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes eventually everybody would agree to seats will not be rotated. That aspect is that. This Session has been specifically neither presented nor was it called to discuss the electoral reforms. recommended.

That is why, we are of the opinion With regard to the Section of the that the Bill introducing electoral reforms Bill which was on the conditions of should be discussed. Several problems service in regard to multi-member have cropped up and many a basic Commission, you kindly recall that it is question has been raised such as election bome out of the proceedings of this process has become a costly affair, and House and press statements on that by it is not fair, anybody can hold it up or all leaders suggests that it is unanimously hold elections as per their whims and adopted by this hon. House and the other fancies. The Bill regarding electoral House to have a multi-member reforms should be presented in the Commission. With regard to conditions of House and property discussed and if the service, it was examined and Government wants to introduce some recommended that certain consultation other Bill after withdrawing this Bill, then, process has to be given in the Bill. We they should be given permission to do have considered time and again and you so and it should be discussed. will kindly bear me out that we have talked to all major political parties to {English] satisty as far as possible their viewpoints because this is not a partisan question SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, may where you want to make somebody a I, with your permission, remind the hon. target. This is totally false. I deny it with Member Shri Advani that there are two all the vehemence at my command. I constitutional Bills pending--Constitution request most humbly that we are trying (Seventieth Amendment) Bill and Consti- to consolidate these two measures in tution (Seventy-first Amendment) Bill. One one Bill, that is, B3rd Amendment and relates to the delimitation and the other you will find the desire of the Government relates to the Chief Election Commis- to accommodate that viewpoint. We are sioner (Conditions of Service) "Bill. They still of the opinion that if you can give were based on the report of the Dinesh better formulation, we can still consider Goswami Committee and they were it with regard to the process of consuhation pending. After that the Joint Committee because it affects all the political parties recommended that the rotation should be in the country and not our party alone. deleted and that was not pursued. You Everybody is interested in fair and free will find that ;>rovision incorporated in the elections. So we should not be 407 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) Bill 408

[ShH H.R. Bhardwaj) sought permission to recommend to the Rajya Sabha that this Bill be withdrawn. misunderstood on this issue. And to The Bill is being withdrawn at the mo- I Impute motives like this, I would like to men!. You are only recommending resent because we have absolutely no through a Motion to the Rajya Sabha that motive. There is genuine difference of they permit you to withdraw so that this opinion between your thinking and our also will have to go through these pro- thinking. We are trying to narrow it down. cesses. But I would plead one thing with We have done so. We hClve been able you. We can pass it today itself. This Bill 10 do something. Our proposed would be passed if you move today that amendment bears me out of this. Even the Report of the Select Committee be you can go and talk to the Parfiamentary taken into consideration. It can be passed Affairs Minister and others to see whether today. And at least one thing in the there is better formulation possible. direction of Electoral Reforms you would have achieved unanimously. Why are My commitment to introduce this you denying yourself that opportunity. I Bill, withdraw it then and bring in a would like to understand. Why are you comprehensive Bill is not at all motivated jeopardising this? by any other considerations. And rule 110 (c) says that it covers all or either SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: I can sub- of the provisions: mit with all humility at my command that SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, you have totally misunderstood me, that Sir, the hon. Minister of State in the is, absolutely there is no desire not to discuss any point with you. We are keen Ministry of Law has spoken in the nature to discuss with you. Kindly appreCiate of a dialogue practically and I respond that. The whole Opposition-the major to it accordingly. I would like to know political party-should note our desire to from him as to why is he not allowing discuss with you. We are requesting you this Bill to be passed separately. What to give your viewpoints on what type of he does about the Election Commission consultation you want, what type of matter can be separately considered. But allocation or what type of transaction of regarding this particular Bill on which business you want. After all, these there is no difference··we are all issues ... unanimous-why is he jeopardising this by combining it with the Election Commission issue? On the Election SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: That is not Commission issue, we can agree to my point. disagree or I can persuade him or he can persuade me. But on this particular SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Shri matter on which there is unanimity, he Advani made a positive suggestion. Why is trying tei withdraw that Bill. That is what do you not move that the Report of the I am objecting to. Select Committee be taken into consider- ation? This Bill will be passed today SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: It is not within a hour by both the Houses. It can withdrawing, it is incorporated in a be one minute more or whatever it is, separate Bill. it depends on the decision of the Speaker. What is the objection? Then you can SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: The question move another Constitution Amendment of incorporating will come later. You have Bill. Is there any constitutional bar on it? 409 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 410

SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: It is never therefore, the right course, in fact, is done-one Constitution Amendment to- what has been followed, that is, the day and another Constitution Amendment provision relating to delimitation as tomorrow-in that manner. reported by the Select Committee is incorporated in this Bill. When we are arguing that that Bill should be passed, SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. I suppose there is some misplaced opinion Speaker, Sir, this cannot be a correct as far as that is concerned. The right logic. One House passed the Bill and you course is what we are following now. had a Select Committee and you also got the Report of that Select Committee. The House is unanimous but because the [TranslationJ Law Minister does not want, so the House should agree that he had the right SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): to override the decision of the Rajya Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to draw the Sabha, the Law Minister has got the attention of the House to something said wisdom to bypass the decision of the by the Law Minister. He said that it can Rajya Sabha, to bypass the decision of not be done that today one constitution the Select Committee and to bypass all (Amendment) Bill is introduced and to- that time that was spent by both the morrow it is some other constitution Houses. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it cannot be (Amendment) Bill whereas in this very acceptable that the Law Minister should House such a situation had arisen before have the last word. The House is ready also. In the tenth Lok Sabha 72nd and to cooperate with him on 30 per cent or 73rd amendments were presented. Both 50 per cent of the matter, but he does the amendment were of the same nature not want to take the cooperation of the one was regarding Panchayati Raj while House. And he wants that everybody the other pertained to urban bodies. In should accept every comma and full stop this House both the amendments were of what he says. This is not going to laken up one after Ihe other. How can happen. you say that we can not introduce one amendment today and the other tomor- row? Which Ip.w forbids us from doing SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL that? I feel thai Law Minister has deve- (Chandigarh): Sir, the Constitution loped a habit of saying anything without (Seventy-First Amendment) Bill contains conviction. two aspects. One is relating 10 the rotation of seats and the other is relating to the delimitation. The Bill was referred SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. to the Select Committee of this House Speaker, Sir, I merely want one clarifica- alone and the Select Committee of this tion. This Bill has been passed by Rajya House had recommended only one of the Sabha almost unanimously. We are urg- two things, that is, the delimita\ion, and ing upon Rajya Sabha to withdraw it. I had given an opinion that the rotation would like 10 have a clarification as to part should be deleted. Since that matter whether the Government would be was pending here, I suppose the right capable enough to retain the Bill course is what has been adopted by the concerning amendment to the Constitu- Government now, particularly when tion which has been moved in case the another provision was sought to be Rajya Sabha does not accept our request incorporated in the Constitution. And, and does not withdraw the Bill? 411 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) Bill 412

MR. SPEAKER : This is a legal constituencies which are having voters point. You also can understand it. numbering 20 lakhs or more. Please do something. [English] MR. SPEAKER: I think we can put SHRI H.R. BHARADWAJ: These the motion moved by Shri Bharadwaj to two provisions are now contained in one the vote of the House. Bill. I cannot bifurcate them now. I seek the withdrawal of this Bill. As Somnathji SOME HON. MEMBERS: We want has said, both the 71 st amendment to a division. the Constitution and the other one are incorporated here. That is why I am MR. SPEAKER: Let the Lobbies be seeking the withdrawal. (Interruptions) cleared.

SHRI RAM KAPSE (Thane): Wher- Now the Lobbies have been cleared. ever we have had discussions and are of the same opinion, it should be taken The question is: into account immediately. I belong to a constituency which is probably number- "That this House recommends to one in India. Next time when we will go Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do in for elections, probably twenty lakh agree to leave being granted by voters will be voting from that this House to withdraw the Bill constituency. Should we not expect justice further to amend the Constitution from the House when we have unanimity of India, which was passed by on this subject? Why withdraw the Bill, Rajya Sabha on the 29th April, come again and have some problems 1992 and laid on the Table of this afterwards? Instead of that, you just House on the 4th May, 1992." accept Advaniji's suggestion, move the Bill and get it passed. About the other Bill we can have a discussion. Please do The Lok Sabha divided: it urgently in the interest of the

Division No.1] [13.21 hrs.

AYES

Acharia, Shri Basudeb Asokaraj. Shri A.

Ahamed, Shri E. Ayub Khan, Shri

Ahirwar, Shri Anand Bala, Dr. Asim

Aiyar, Shri Mani Shankar Banee~ee. Kumari Mamata

Ajit Singh, Shri Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar

Akber Pasha. Shri B. Barman, Shri Palas

Antulay, Shri A.R. Barman, Shri Uddhab 413 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 414

Basu, Shri Anil Damor, Shri Somjibhai

Basu, Shri Chitta Das, Shri Jitendra Nath

Bhagat, Shri Vishweshwar Datta, Shri Amal

Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Deka, Shri Probin

Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram Delkar, Shri Mohan S.

Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal Dennis, Shri N.

Bhattacharya, Shrimati Malini Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan

Bhoi, Dr, Krupasindhu Devarajan, Shri B.

Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. Devi, Shrimati Bibhu Kumari

Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao Dighe, Shri Sharad

Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Diwan, Shri Pawan

Birbal, Shri Farook, Shri M.O.H.

Brar, Shri Jagmeet Singh Fernandes, Shri Oscar

Chakraborty, Prof. Susanta Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao

Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath

Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh

Charles, Shri A. Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai

Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya

Chatterjee, Shri Somnath Gehlot, Shri Ashok

ChaL.dhary, Sqn. Ldr. Kamal Ghangare, Shri Ramchandra Marotrao

Chaudhri, Shri Narain Singh Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh

Chaure, Shri Bapu Hari Giri, Shri Sudhir

Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. Giriyappa, Shri C.P. Mudala

Chennithala, Shri Ramesh Gogoi, Shri Tarun

Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin, Gomango, Shri Giridhar

Choudhary, Shrimati Santash Gopalan, Shrimati Suseela

Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh Gundewar, Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao

DAlbir Singh, Shri Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna 415 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) Bill 416 Harchand Singh, Shri Kurien, Prof. P.J.

Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Lakshmanan, Prof. Savithri

Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal Made Gowda, Shri G.

Imchalemba, Shri Mahato, Shri Sir Singh

Inder Jit, Shri Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh

Islam, Shri Nurul Malik, Shri Puma Chandra

Jaffer Sharief, Shri C.K. Mallu, Dr. R.

Janarthanan, Shri M.R. Kadambur Mandai, Shri Sanat Kumar

Jangde, Shri Kheian Ram Manphool Singh, Shri

Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Marbaniang, Shri Peter G.

Kahandole, Shri Z.M. Mathew, Shri Pala K.M.

Kaliaperumal, Shri P .P. Mathur, Shri Shiv Charan

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Meena, Shri Sheru Lal

Kamson, Prof. M. Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram

Kanithi, Dr. Viswanatham Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas

Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari Misra, Shri Satyagopal

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila Mollah, Shri Hannan

Kewal Singh, Shri Mujahid, Shri S.M.

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Muralee Dharan, Shri K.

Khan, Shri Ghulam Mohammad Murmu, Shri Rup Chand

Khan, Shri Sukhendu Nandi, Shri Yellaiah

Khursheed, Shri Salman Narayanan, Shri P.G.

Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna Nawale, Shri Vidura Vithoba

Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya

Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji Nikam, Shri Govindrao

Kudumula, Kumari Padamasree Nyamagouda, Shri S.S.

Kuli, Shri Salin Odeyar, Shri Channaiah

Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad

Kumarasamy, Shri P. Pal, Shri Rupchand

Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K. Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav 417 Constitution (Seventy- JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 418

Patel, Shri Harilal Nanji Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P.

Patel, Shri Praful Reddy, Shri G. Ganga

Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar Reddy, Shri Magunta Subbarama

Patel, Shri Ul1ambhai Harjibhai Reddy, Shri R. Surender

Pati!, Shri Prakash V. Rongpi, Dr. Jayanta

Patil, Shrimati Surya Kanta Roy, Shri Haradhan

Patil, Shri Ul1amrao Deorao Sadul, Shri Dharmanna Mondayya

Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Sahi, Shrimati Krishna

Pal1anayak, Shri Sarat Sai, Shri A. Prathap

Pawar, Dr. Vas ant Niwrul1i Sanipalli, Shri Gangadhara

Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Sawant, Shri Sudhir

Pilot, Shri Rajesh Sayeed, Shri P.M.

Prabhu, Shri R. Scindia, Shri Madhavrao

Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan Selja, Kumari

Pradhani, Shri K. Shankaranand, Shri B.

Pramanik, Shri A.R. Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal

Prasad, Shri V. Sreenivasa Shingada, Shri D.B.

Rahi, Shri Ram Lal Shivappa, Shri K.G.

Rai, Shri Kalp Nath Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan

Rai, Shri M. Ramanna Siddhartha, Shrimati OK Tharadevi

Rajaravivarma, Shri B, Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Silvera, Dr. C.

Rajeshwaran, Dr. V. Singh, Shri Arjun

Ram Awadh, Shri Singh, Shri Motilal

Ramasamy, Shri R. Naidu Singh, Kumar; Pushpa Devi

Rao, Shri J. Chokka Singla, Shri San! Ram

Rao, Shri V. Krishna Sivaraman, Shri S.

Rathva, Shri N.J. Sodi, Shri Manku Ram

Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Sridharan, Dr. R.

Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Sukh Ram, Shri 419 Constitution (Seventy- JUNE 13, 1994 First Amendment) BiD 420 Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Umrao Singh, Shr'i

Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Dutt Unnikrishnan, Shri K.P.

Sundararaj, Shri N. Upadhyay, Shri Swarup Tara Singh, Shri Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha Thangka Balu, Shri K.V. Verma, Shri Bhawani Lal Thomas, Shri P.C. Verma, Shri Shiv Sharan Thora!, Shri Sandi pan Bhagwan Verma, Kumari Vimla Thungon, Shri PK Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee Wasnik, Shri Mukul Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran Williams, Maj. Genl. Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb

Topno, Kumari Frida Yadav, Shri Surya Narayan

Tytler, Shri Jagdish Yumnam, Shri Yaima Singh

Umbrey, Shri Laeta Zainal Abedin, Shri

NOES

Advani, Shri Lal K. Chowdhary, Shri Pankaj

Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath

Baliyan, Shri NK Dharmabhiksham, Shri

Bandaru, Shri Dattatraya Dhumal, Prof. Prem

Berwa, Shri Ram Narain Dikshit, Shri Shreesh Chandra

Bhargava, Shri Girdhari Lal Drona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh

Chandra Shekhar, Shri Fernandes, Shri George

Chaudhary, Shri Rudarsen Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar

Chauhan, Shri Chetan P.S. Gautam, Shrimati Sheela

Chauhan, Shri Shivraj Singh Gowda, Prof. K. Venkatagiri

Chhatwal, Shri Sartaj Singh Gupta, Shri Indrajit

Chhotey Lal, Shri Jai Prakash, Shri

Chikhlia, Shrimati Bhavna Jatiya, Shri Satynarayan

Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal Jeswani, Dr. K.D.

Choudhury, Shri Lokanath Joshi, Shri Dau Dayal 421 Constitution (Seventy" JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) First Amendment) Bill 422

Kalka Das, Shri Purkayastha, Shri Kabindra

Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal Raj Narain, Shri

Kanaujia, Dr. G.L Raje, Shrimati Vasundhra

Kanodia, Shri Mahesh Ram Singh, Shri

Kashwan, Shri Ram Singh Ramdew Ram, Shri

Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal Rana, Shri Kashiram

Katiyar, Shri Vinay Rao, Shri D. Venkateswara

Khanduri, Maj. Gen. (Reid.) Bhuwan Rawal, Dr. Lal Bahadur Chandra Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh Koli, Shri Ganga Ram Reddy, Shri G. Ganga Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Saiki a, Shri Muhi Ram Krishendra Kaur (Deepa), Shrimali Sakshiji, Dr. Kusmaria, Shri Ramkrishna Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje Laljan Basha, Shri S.M. Shakya, Dr. Mahadeepak Singh Lodha, Shri Guman Mal Sharma, Shri Jeewan Mahajan, Shrimali Sumilra Sharma, Shri Rajendra Kumar Mallikarjunaiah, Shri S. Shastri, Shri Vishwanath Mandai, Shri Brahmanand Shukla, Shri Astbhuja Prasad Mehta, Shri Bhubaneshwar Prasad Singh, Shri Brijbhushan Sharan Misra, Shri Shyam Bihari Singh, Shri Rajveer Mukhe~ee, Shrimali Geeta Singh, Shri Ramashray Prasad Munda, Shri Kariya Singh, Shri Rampal Murthy, Shri M.V.V.S. Singh, Shri Satya Deo Oraon, Shri Lalit Singh, Shn Surya Narayan Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan

Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas Sur, Shri Monoranjan Swami, Shri Sureshanand Patel, Shri Chandresh

Patel, Shri Somabhai Tej Narayan Singh, Shri

Pathak, Shri Hann Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand

Pathak, Shn Surendra Pal Topiwala, Shrimati Dipika H.

Patidar, Shri Rameshwar Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani 423 Re : Representation of the JUNE 13, 1994 People (Second 424 Amendment) Bill Ummareddy Venkateswarlu, Prof. Varma, Shri Sushi I Chandra

Verma, Shri Phool Chand Vadde, Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Verma, Prof. Rita Vaghela, Shri Shankersinh Verma, Kumari Vimla

Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar

MR. SPEAKE=R: Subject to MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: correction, the result" of the division is:

Ayes: 218 "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Noes: 99 Aepresentation of the People Act, The motion is carried by a majority 1950 and the Representation of the of the total membership of the House People Act, 1951." and by a majority of not less than two- thirds of the Members present and voting. [TraflslationJ

The motion was adopted. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): I rise to oppose the introduction of this Bin. This Bill seeks to amend People 13.28 hrs. Plepresentation Act, 1950 .....

REPRESENTATION OF THE . [English] PEOPLE (SECOND AMENDMENT) BILL·· MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Lodha, just a [English] minute please. If there are many Membets who want to oppose the introduction of th$ Bill, should we continue now or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN'THE 'should we take it up after lunch? MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ): I beg to move for leave THE MINISTER OF WATER to introduce a Bill further to amend the ~j;OURCES AND MINISTER OF Representation of the People Act, 1950 PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI and the Representation of the People VIDYACHARAN SHDKLA): Please see Act, 1951. ttlat it is over in ten minutes' time. ... 'The following Members also recorded their votes: AYES: SJShri Jangbir Singh, Jaya Surya Prakash Reddy KoDa, Kartikeshwar Patra,.lakshman SIngh, Ram Sharan Yaav, Roshan Lal, Maruti Oeoram SheIks, Bapusahlb Thlte, Pramolhes Mukherl88. NOES: Shri BaJraj PassI, Dr. P.R. Gangwar, Sarvashri Anna Joshi, Ram Nagina Mlshra, Amar Pal Singh, V. DhIInaJay Kumar, Y~ Saraswatl, Kunj8e Lal, AIVIncI Trtved and Prakash Narain Trtpathl. -Published in the Gazette ·of Inch ExInIordNry. Pill II, SectIon 2, dated 13.6.94. 425 Re:' Representation of JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Re: Adjournment Motion 426 the People (Second Amendment) Bill on Sugar Situation MR. SPEAKER: If there are many 13.31 hrs. Members who want to speak, what should we do? ANNOUNCEMENT RE: ADJOURNMENT MOTION SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: It ON SUGAR SITUATION all depends on how many you allow to speak. {English]

MR. SPEAKER: As far as the MR. SPEAKER: I will not restrain Adjournment Motion is concerned, I have Members who want to speak. This is to inform the House that I have received introduction of the new Bill. Withdrawal twelve notices of Adjournment Motion of the other Bill is already over and it regarding failure of the Government to can now go to the other House. meet the sugar situation resulting in forcible import thereof in large scale at SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Sir, higher price, from the following Members: the Law Minister has to go to the Rajya L Shri D. Venkateswara Rao Sabha after Lunch. So, he will not be here in the House after Lunch. He is 2. Shri Nirmal Kanti Chatterjee required to be present in the Rajya 3. Shri Guman Mal lodha Sabha for the withdrawal of this Bill. 4. Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee MR. SPEAKER: If many Members 5. Shri George Fernandes want to speak on this Bill I am inclined 6. Shri Mohan Singh (Deoria) to allow them. I would not restrict Members either on the Constitution i. Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vadde (Seventy-first Amendment) Bill or the 8. Shri Srikanta Jena Representation of the People (Second Amendment) Bill. 9. Shri Nitish Kumar 10. Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: No 11. Shri Indrajit Gupta Member from our side will speak. 12. Shri Hari Kishore Singh MR. SPEAKER: That is a different thing. Since it will take time, I thought I give my consent to Shri we will take it up afterwards. Ramashray Prasad Singh, who has secured first place in the ballot, to move the motion in the 'ollowing torm: SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: But, Sir, after Lunch the Minister has to Failure of the Government to meet. go to the Rajya Sabha. the sugar sit~ation resulting in forcible imporUhereof in large scale MR. SPEAKER: Let some other at higher price. arrangement be made for that purpose. Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh may ask for leave of the House. 427 Re ." Representation of JUNE 13, 1994 the People (Second 428 Amendment) Bill SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD in mind the peculiar circumstances in SINGH (Jahanabad): I seek leave of the which it is being brought in respect of House'to move the Adjournment Motion electoral reforms .... regarding failure of the Government to meet the sugar situation resulting in (Interruptions) forcible import thereof in large scale at higher price. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. MR. SPEAKER: I think it is not Speaker, Sir, the Minster of Justice and opposed. So, the leave is granted. Under Company Affairs is not present in the Rule 61, the Adjournment Motion is to House. (Interruptions) be taken up at 16.00 hours or at an earlier hour. Under Rule 62, nolless than [English] two-and-a-half hours are allotted for its discussion. The Motion will be taken up MR. SPEAKER: He is required to at 16.00 hours. be in the other House. I have allowed him to go to the other House. The The House stands adjourned to re- Parliamentary Affairs Minister is deputising assemble at 14.30 hours. him.

13.34 hrs. (Translation] The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch till Thirty Minutes past SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Mr. Fourteen of the Clock. Speaker, Sir, it is unfortunate tha~ since 1967 we have been constantly demanding for electoral reforms .... (lnterruptions)

[English] [English] 14.35 hrs. MR. SPEAKER: At the stage of The Lok Sabha reassembled after introduction, legislative competence will Lunch at Thirty-Five Minutes past be discussed and nothing more than that. Fourteen of the clock. (Translation) [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair]

REPRESENTATION OF THE SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: PEOPLE (SECOND AMENDMENT) Whatever time you allocate me, within BILL -Contd. that; I will speak in brief.

[Translation) SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Nagar): Then, the Government will have SHRI GUMI\N MI\L LODHI\ (Pali): to hold full discussion on the subject. In Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the addition to raising paints regarding Bill presented in the House. While legislative competence, other objections presenting the Bill we will have to keep can also be raised. 429 Re: Representation of JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) the People (Second 430 Amendment) Bill [English] list, free identity slips alongwith free petrol diesel will be made available to them. They will also be provided facility • The rule says that if it is questioned to speak on stage. or if it is proposed on the ground of legislative competence then you have to But Goswamiji has introduced some permit everyone. amendments to the Representation of People's Act, 1990 in his Bill. Today we {Translation] are passing through 1994. But after introducing it in the House, it was referred to the Select Committee. At that time it SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I will was hoped that one much more effective not take much time. But I would at least Bill will be brought forward so that the like to say that this House should also people of India may not tolerate any type get full information as this Special Session of corrupt practices like muscle power or has now been convened exclusively for money power while exercising their the purpose of electoral reforms whereas franchise. we have been constantly raising this issue since 1967. Several committees I would like to submit that this Bill were constituted in this regard. And, at was circulated on 13th. There was a last the report of the Goswami Committee provision in the Bill that the Government was submitted. Shri Dinesh Goswami will provide at least free voters' list, had presented a comprehens.ive Bill on identity slips, etc. as well as diesel and the basis of recommendations of the petrol to all political parties. Such type Committee. It may be termed solely as of provision was made in that Amendment Electoral Reforms Bill... (Interruptions) Bill of 1990 which was circulated by Shri Bhardwajji and discussed till last 13th at the fake end of the session. But I am [English] surprised to know that these provisions are missing in the Bill which is being MR. SPEAKER: This is really brought forward for introduction. It means becoming a regular debate on this. that we are heading towards opposite direction instead of bringing improvements. We have reversed the {Translation] gear. After a long time we have endeavoured a bit. But these provisions SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: This have been left out of the Bill for which Bill had taken care 'hat no Member is leave is being sought to move. Why is constraint to submit a false affidavit in it so? The Government is revoking such respect of electoral expenses before existing provisions whereas it should taking an oath in the House and also to have introduced more stringent legislation save our Members of Parliament from for the purpose of bringing improvements. this unfortunate situation in which they Therefore, I would like to draw your may find themselves in an embarrassing attention towards' section 324 of the position and they may not start their work People's Representation Bill in which the with a false affidavit the Government has Commission has been empowered to run made a provision of State funding. Under its administration. The Government is the scheme of State Funding, free voters' going to exercise control over it. 431 Re: Representation of JUNE 13, 1994 the People (Second 432 Amendment) Bill [English] [Translation]

SHRI lAL K. ADVANI: Sir, on a SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. pOint of order, I would like to know Speaker, Sir, I would like to draw your whether the substantial Bill, which has attention to the rule 66 of the Rules of many provisions in common with this Bill, Procedure and Conduct of Business in which was introduced in 1990, in the Lok Sabha which reads as follows: Rajya Sbaha has been withdrawn from there, because, this Bill should have "66. A Bill, which is dependent been introduced only after the withdrawal wholly or partly upon another Bill of that Bill. pending before the House, may be introduced in the House in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE anticipation of the passing of the MINISTRY OF DEFENCE AND Bill on which it is dependent" MINISTRY OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI I was also raiSing this question MALLIKARJUN): After 2.30 p.m. it is earlier about the Bill. Such type of Bill going to be withdrawn. is being considered in the Rajya Sabha and it has not been withdrawn. It is lying SHRI LAL .K. ADVANI: It has not pending there. yet been withdrawn and before that they have sought leave to introduce this Bill! {English] Is it not against the Rules? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Rule 66 is not MR. SPEAKER: It is a very valid applicable. That is completely different. point. Let me find out what is the pOSition? I would like to know whether {Translation] the same kind of Bill is there or not.

SHRI MOHAN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Yes. I have Sir, I would like to draw your attention it here with me. to Rule 67 which reads as under:

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: It "When a Bill is pending before the is not of the same kind. This is a new House, notice of an identical Bill, Bill which is being brought here. It may whether received before or after have some provision of the Bill which is the introduction of the pending Bill, being introduced here. shall be removed from, or not entered in, the list of pending SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Have you notices, as the case may be, unless withdrawn that Bill? the Speaker otherwise directs."

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: It Mr. Speaker, Sir, if we examine is not the same kind of Bill. There are Rules 66 and 67 it will be clear that the some common features. But that does Bill which is lying pending in the Rajya not make it the same. Sabha cannot be discussed. 433 Re: Representation of JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) the People (Second 434 Amendment) Bill (English] MR. SPEAKER: There is a little difference. If the Rajya Sabha has passed MR. SPEAKER: Rule 66 is not the Bill and if that Bill has been received applicable. Rule 66 is applicable to a Bill by the Lok Sabha, only then we would which is dependent on 'any other Bill'. not withdraw that Bill without procuring Unless that 'any other Bill' is passed, no the agreement of the Rajya Sabha for Bill can be introduced. That is different. withdrawal. But supposing that is pending with them, can a new Bill be introduced here in this House before it is passed SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL in the other House? (Chandigarh): These two rules refer to the Bills pending in this House. That SHRI LAL K. AOVANI: It has been objection cannot be substantiated. introduced already. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. MR. SPEAKER: I think somebody I will not just respond to it immediately. may collect the information and clarify this point later on. The hon. Minister of SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Mr. Parliamentary Affairs may not have all Speaker, Sir, Rule 67 says: the information. The information may be collected from the Law Minister. "When a Bill is pending before the House, notice of an identical Bill, SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: whether received before or after You want to know about the pendency the introduction of the pending Bill, of the Bill or the nature of the Bill, Sir? shall be removed from, or not entered in, the list of pending notices, as the case may be, unless SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: I the Speaker otherwise directs." will submitting that even if that is pending still another Bill can be introduced. SHRI VfDYACHARAN SHUKLA: I Technical objection about a Bill can be would like the hon. Member to enlighten tackled technically. There are rules for this House and the hon. Speaker whether tackling it. The rules postulate that only this Rule refers to the Bills pending in if the Bill is pending in this House a this House or in the other House. My second Bill incorporating almost the same understanding is that this Rule refers to provisions of the first Bill or an identical the Bills pending in this very House and Bill cannot be introduced here. not in the other House. (Interruptions) (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: The stand of the MR. SPEAKER: I wiIJ give my ruling Parliamentary Affairs Minister and Shri later on. Bansal appears to be correct. This Rule is applicable to the Bills pending in this SHRI LAL K. AOVANI: I have that House and not in the other House. Bill with me. Several clauses are common. (Interruptions) Therefore, on the same analogy on which they were naturally keen to withdraw MAJ. GEN. \RETO.) BHUWAN that Bill, ... (Interruptions) CHANDRA KHANOURI (Garhwal): If some 435 Re : Representation of JUNE 13, 1994 the People (Second 436 Amendment) Bill . [Maj. Gen. (Retd.) Bhuwan Chandra intro@uce Identity Cards in a State which Khandurij suits them and will not introduce these in another State which does not suit Bill is already pending in the other them. I would like to submit that such House, can you introduce a similar Bill an interference of executive is being here? (Interruptions) encouraged which is not required to maintain healthy democracy and for MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. holding fair elections. Therefore, Sir, it Now this kind of discussion cannot be should be considered whether a provision allowed. (Interruptions) for an ordinary legislation can be brought just to curtail powers provided in the MR. SPEAKER: I got a ruling here, Article 324 of the Constitution. To amend which says that there is no bar to a Bill the article 324 of the Constitution .... being introduced in the Lok Sabha when (Interruptions) an identical Bill is pending in the Rajya Sabha. It is very clear. MR. SPEAKER: Even if it is brought forward. [Translation} [English] SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I was It will be over-ruled. submitting that the Government had made several provisions in the Bill which was [Translation] circulated on the 13th May, 1994 in respect of electoral reforms. The SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I would provisions of the Bill of 1994 which is like to see that it is over-ruled by you. being introduced in the Rajya Sabha are almost simifar to the recommendations MR. SPEAKER: You know very made by Goswamiji regarding containing well that I cannot do it, the Court will do electoral expenses, state funding of it. elections and checking of corrupt practices in the elections. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: The Court has already given its verdict. In Indira Gandhi versus Raj Narain case, I would like to submit that all these the court had given the verdict that free provisions have been removed from the and fair elections and democracy are the Bill circulated today and there is nothing basic features of our Constitution. So, my worth the name of electoral reforms in submission is that wherever there is the Bifl. It seeks to secure powers for interference in fair and free elections the Government to exercise control over such a Bill should not be brought in the the Election Commission. Because the House. It is not the question of Sheshan, Election Commission has declared that Sheshan comes and goes in the country the elections will be held only after but a session is called to bring a Bill to issuing Identity Cards to the voters put the pressure that identity cards will throughout the country. This provision be made wherever the Govemment may has been made. Until and unless the want to do so. It is against the Articles Election Commission receives clearance 14 and 324 of the Constitution. As per from the Central Govemment, it cannot the law of the land, no amendment can hold elections. The Central Govemment be made in it against Article 324. This will act at its convenience. They will House has got limited powers und.er 437 Re: Representation of JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) the People (Second 438 Amendment) Bill Article 368 and a constitution Amendment MR. SPEAKER: We do not discuss can be brought through a special those things here. Please come to the procedure. Such a decision was given in merits. Keshwanand Bharti versus Raj Narain case and you all are aware of it. All the SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA laws should be enacted to provide free RAO VADDE: Sir, you are aware of the and fair elections. While giving permission, move by the Government to introduce you must ponder over it. The wave for both Constitution Amendment Bill and the a free poll in the country is being Representation of the People Amendment suppressed. A particular and flourishing Bill on 10th of last month which could party, towards which the majority of the not be introduced for some valid reasons. countrymen are attracted, is being The Govemment had circulated the Bills liquidated. It is not legal. Therefore, the on 11th morning. The House adjourned permission should not be granted to on 13th of last month. The Government bring this Bill. If a electoral reforms Bill had not included in the Ust of Business is to be brought then a comprehensive its intention to introduce those two Bills Bill should be brought. The list system on the floor of the House. So, the should be introduced under proportionate Opposition Parties had raised the representation and there should also be objection and the Govemment could not the provision for bringing an end to introduce those Bills. Today, the muscle power. Even after making such Government has come forward with proposals during 1990-94, the necessity, Representation of the People (Second to pass these was not felt. Now it is being Amendment) Bill even before it could withdrawn. If some sort of new Bill is to introduce the previous Representation of be brought, there should be more the People (Amendment) Bill, 1994 (Bill provisions for electoral reforms in it. No. 52 of 1994). Here, why I am objecting These should be in accordance with the is, Sir, actually when a later Bill is law. My submission is that the Bill should brought forward it must be an improve- not be brought with the intention to ment over the previous proposal. In fact, maintain the dominance of Government the present (Second Amendment) Bill is on the Election Commission and to cut a retrograde step because it has the rights of Mr. Sheshan. altogether withdrawn the provisions relating to State funding of elections {English] which were there in the previous Amendment Bill and it is one of the crucial recommendations made by Dinesh MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rao, you have Goswami Committee. Unlike the Ruling to be very brief, relevant and only on the Party which has got an enormous money point as to why it should not be allowed power with them because of being In to be introduced. power, the plight of the other political parties is not so to meet ·the election SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA expenses.. The Committee has RAO VADDE (Vijayawada): Mr. Speaker, recommended that the Government Sir, I thank you for giving me the should help the candidates of recognised opportunity. You will recollect when you political parties in meeting some had convened the meeting of Party requirements such as microphones or Leaders in your Chamber on 10th of last diesel for the vehicles to move and month ... identity Slips. 439 Re : Representation of JUNE 13, 1994 the People (Second 440 Amendment) Bill [Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vaddej election to Lok Sabha can be an elector from any constituency in the country but Some more items were yet to be later, for some reasons, they have added to that, but the Govemment has withdrawn that clause from this Bill. It withdrawn that Bill. appears that the Government is not at all serious or sincere in its intentions to In the previous Amendment Bill, bring forward the electoral reforms. That which was earlier circulated, the is why we oppose this Bill and demand, Committee had also recommended through you, from this Government to removal of non-serious candidates and to come forward with a comprehensive prevent some candidates contesting from electoral reforms Bill. Thank you, Sir. more than one constituency when bye- elections are necessitated. In your SHRI E. AHMED (Manjeri): Mr. previous Amendment Bill, you had Speaker, Sir, I feel it will be a dereliction proposed that a candidate should not of my duty if I were not to oppose or contest from more than one constituency, not point out certain infirmities in the Bill whether for the House of the People or which, according to me, are not for the Legislative Assembly elections. Constitutional. I am not mentioning only But in this second Amendment Bill, you the unconstitutional provisions but also have given scope for the candidates to ... some other provisions which have been (Interruptions) incorporated in this Bill.

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rao, these are We are all committed for the matters which you can discuss when we electoral reforms and we all want this consider the Bill or at the stage of clause- reforms Bill to be passed by the House. by-clause consideration. Moreover, you But there is a certain provision which has can give the amendment if you want. the Constitutional infirmity and I am duty bound to bring that to the notice of this (Interruptions) House as well as of the Government. In the Statement of Objects and Reasons, SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA it is mentioned in para 4 ... (Interruptions) RAO VADDE: Sir, I am telling why I am objecting to it. Anyway, I am completing. MR. SPEAKER: Please, Mr. Ahmed. I shall not take more than one minute. SHRI E. AHMED: I am not going What I mean to say is that you into it. Sir, I am just mentioning about have not improved upon your previous one of the provisions which the proposal. So, our suggestion is that you Government has incorporated in the Bill, come forward with a comprehensive which I could see is very much against Amendment Bill to amend the the essence and the letter and spirit of Representation of People's Act, fully the Constitution. Article 19(1)(c) of the incorporating the recommendations made Constitution has given freedom of by the D!nesh Goswami Committee, and association, subject to three reasonable not in a piecemeal manner like this. It restrictions - security of the country, appears that the Government has no public order, and morality or decency. clear thinking and clear stand on the Any party which can stand the test of amendments. In the previous Bill they these reasonable restrictions provided in had provided that a candidate contesting the ConstItution, has every right to func:tfc)n 441 Re: Representation of JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) the People (Second 442 Amendment) Bill and to stay in the country. But here, one Muslim League which has not got a of the provisions which has been made religious name. I am mentioning it as a is... (Interruptions) matter of general principle. But it is the right of every party and every citizen to MR. SPEAKER: Please, Mr. contest the election. If there is any Ahamed, it is not necessary at this stage. opposition, we have 10 fight on the political track. Therefore, this provision is 15.00 hrs. unconstitutional and it will be ultra vires of the Constitution. So, on this point I say there is a legal and constitutional SHRI E. AHMED: I shall take only infirmity. The Govemment may reconsider two minutes, Sir. A party which bears a this provision. religious name even if it can function under the Constitution, will be banned or de-recognised but a party which is based SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Mr. on caste can contest. I cannot understand Speaker, Sir, we have actually heard the what is wrong in the religion. Is the name views of the hon. Members and when the of caste more holier than religion? A Bill is taken up for consideration we will party with any other name can contest deal with those points. but a party which bears a religious name will be de-recognised. I cannot understand With your permission, on behalf of why. If a party with religious name cannot my colleague Shri H.R. Bhardwaj, I beg contest or will be de-recognised, then to move for leave to introduce a Bill would a candidate who has a religious further to amend the Representation of name, also be banned? the People Act, 1950 and the Representation of the People Act, 1951. We have an hon. friend of mine here, Mr. Nurul Islam. If he contests in MR. SPEAKER: He is seeking the the election and says, "vote for Islam' leave of the House. would you ban him also? It is a ridiculous proposition, according to me and so, it SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Is there no is not fair. I want the Govemment only reply to the debate? to correct this. I am supporting the other provisions of the Bill. But this prOVision SHRf VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: I is really unconstitutional, arbitrary and have given the reply. I said that I have misuse of the democratic and taken note of the points that the hon. parliamentary process. You have to see Members have made and we will deal not just the name, but the activities of with them at the time of the consideration the party. But unfortunately, anywhere in of the· Bill, mainly because they have the Bill you have not put a provision for gone into the merits and various clauses the scrutiny of the activities of the party. of the Bill. So, I do not think that we You have kept a provision only to see should deal with them at the stage ot the rules and regulations, memoranda introduction. and the nomenclature, the name. Therefore, that will be hit by the article SHRI LAl K. ADVANI: H is not 19(1) (c) of the Constitution. So, it shall merely merit. There are other things aJso. not have a place in this piece of legislation. You should have replied to what Mr. I am not worried because my party the Ahamed said Just now. 443 Manipur Municipalities Bill JUNE 13, 1994 Manipur Municipalities Bill 444

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: for leave to introduce a Bill to provide The reply need not be given at this time. for constitution and organisation of municipalities in the Urban areas of SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: The whole Manipur and for matters connected thing seems to be a farce. He is not therewith and incidental thereto. ready even to reply to the debate. MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: It is not a farce. If we do not aet according "That leave be granted to introduce to your wishes, it become a farce. a Bill to provide for constitution and organisation of municipalities in the [Translation} Urban areas of Manipur and for matters connected therewith and SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi incidental thereto. Nagar): Please give the reply. If the intention is to pass it, then pass it. Please [Translation} ask for voting on it. Let the hon. Ivlembers play the game of Answer the pOints, which the hon. Members have raised. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. Speaker, Sir, this Govemment is showing [English) utter disregard for the House at every step. There can be no such big glaring MR. SPEAKER: The question is: example of blatant disregard. The House was prorogued only for a few hours. The "That leave be granted to introduce House was prorogued for a few hours a Bill further to amend the to issue the ordinance. Three ordinances Representation of the People Act, were issued during this short period of 1950 and the Representation of the prorogation. We had received the People Act, 1951. information and we had given notices of questions also. There can be no other The motion was adopted. big misuse of the provision of the Constitution than that the House was first SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Sir, prorogued and then summoned in such introduce the Bill. a way. Article 123 says that if at any time, except when both the Houses of the Parliament are in session, hon. President is satisfied that circumstances 15.05 hrs. exist which render it necessary for him to take immediate action he may MANIPUR MUNICIPALITIES BILL' promulgate the ordinance. If these three ordinances were not promulgated {English] Government would not have stopped functioning at ali... (Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI SHEILA MR. SPEAKER: It was a KAUL): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move Constitutional requirement.

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SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): It While the Government might be aware is all right that it was a constitutional of this practice that the House should not requirement and the House was have been prorogued, rather it should prorogued for a few hours, saying that have been continued while a discussion ordinances are to be brought. What was was going on; but the Government did the hurry to bring these ordinances? Sir, not take any care. The budget session the by elections in the country for the lasted for such a long period and the Lok Sabha were to be held on 26th, the Government was aware of the essential Government was to convey a message formalities to be completed as per the that an amendment has been brought Constitution. Under those circumstances, regarding the municipal committees and when the session was going on. the Bill it will be implemented throughout the could have been brought and in the country ... (Interruptions) meantime the Constitutional requirements could have been completed, but the way MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to the Government functions, none had me. As per the provisions of the such an idea in mind and secretariat also Constitution all these ordinances have to fixed the date of putting up the questions be passed before a particular date and and the date of ballots and the hon. if it is not done then it will be a breach Members also submitted their questions. of Constitution... (Interruptions) The Members had to submit notices of question again. Thus, we had to undergo a lot of difficulties. All of a sudden. it SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Sir, occurred to their mind that to fulfil the these could be presented in the House requirements of the Constitution. in the shape of a Bill. Therefore, it is a prorogation of this House is necessary. disgrace of the House. I think that Therefore, in the end, the House was running the Government in such a way prorogued for some time. Again the through the chain of such ordinances is house was summoned. In this way, there just like playing with the Constitution and were many complexities. Even, your office the Government has dragged your and the whole Secretariat had agreed to Ministry and your office also in it. You this view that the hon. Members had to should give them the directives that the put double efforts and submit notices of permission will not be granted to run the questions again. The Government should Government in such a blind and be admonished for creating such a unnecessary manner through the situation. You have a right to admonish ordinances. When an hon. Member of us but we fear if the Govemment would opposition speaks in such a manner you work in a responsible manner or not. In become more sensitive but in this case a way, this House is being run by a Hon. this Government is playing with the Minister ot the Government Nobody Constitution. therefore. my submission to knows how the Department 0\ you is that you should give them the Parliamentary Affairs is functioning? instructions not to do it again ... Today, such a strange things are (Interruptions) ... They should learn to happening that even the hon. Minister of honour the House... (Interruptions) ... Parliamentary Affairs is making a statement on behalf of the other party. SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Bam): Mr. He talks to the Members of other parties Speaker, Sir. you have rightly asserted and gives a statement on their behalf. that it was a Constitutional requirement. He is enjoying the right to speak on 447 Manipur Municipalities Bill JUNE 13, 1994 Manipur Municipalities Bill 448

[Shri Nitish Kumar] Sh. Mavlankar was not pleased and he wrote a leiter to Pandit Nehru. I would behalf of the whole country and the like to quote a few lines of this letter. Government. This is the way the Once on 25th November, 1950 Shri Government is functioning. Therefore, I Mavlankar wrote to Pandit Nehru:- would request you that the Government should be admonished for this act and [English] such kind of a practice should be criticised

SHRI LAL. K. ADVANI "The procedure of the promulgation (Gandhinagar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, this of Ordinances is inherently issue was also raised today morning. The undemocratic. Whether an hon. Home Minister had then told that Ordinance is justifiable or not, the he would apprise the House about his issue of a large number of compulsion under which the ordinance Ordinances has psychologically a had to be issued. He further said that bad effect. The people carry an he did not know if such a situation would impreSSion that Government is arise. It has been said that had the carried on by Ordinances. The House not been prorogued, there would House carries a sense of being have been a Constitutional crisis. The ignored and the Central Secretriat hon. Home Minister is not present here perhaps gets into the habit of at the moment. However, nobody has slackness etc." replied on behalf of the Government as to why it became necessary to issue an [Trans/ation] ordinance. It purports that-Parliament is made Mr. Speaker, Sir, I remember that to feel like a rubber stamp. on this subject, an historical correspondence took place between Shri Shri Mavlankar stressed this point. Mavlankar and Pandit Nehru. Perhaps no On one occasion, he even refused to other Constitution of any country of the prorogue the House to make Pt. Nehru world has such a provision wherein the agree to his point. He made it clear that powers of the Par-liament under certain he would not prorogue the House because circumstances have been vested in the after prorogation, the Government Executive. immediately issues an ordinance. Sir, this time the Government, through you, have [English] prorogued the House by openly violating the convention. The convention is that "Ordinance-making is a kind of an the prorogation follows aller the exceptional provision in the Indian adjournment of the House sine-die. Constitution, a parallel of which does not obtain, not to my knowledge, in other Constitutions, [English] generally democratic." When the House is adjourned only [Translation] for a specific date, as it was adjourned on the 13th May to meet again on 13th Therefore, initially when this chain of June, there was no adjournment sine of introduction of ordinances started, die and, therefore, there could have been 449 Manipur Municipalities BillJYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Manipur Municipalities Bill 450

no' prorogation. At least, that was the he· admonished the Government. convention. They persuaded you. They However, the word 'admonition' has not came to you. It will be a constitutional been used here. Once he knew that the 'crisis if you do not prorogue it and, Government is going on its own way, he therefore, you recommended to the refused to prorogued the House. It President that it be prorogued. We have happened before my eyes. It was after met the President in this. connection, then that the practice of issuing protested to him, pointed out that it is ordinances halted to some extent. without precedent, it is against precedent. Therefore, we urge that you should take due notice of it. Though the Government [Translation] has not been able to convince us but at least, it should convince you that why But when tOday it is being could not it bring these ordinances before intrq_duced here, I think that- 13 May? What were the circumstances under which they had to resort to such step? I would like to say thai what was [Eng{;shj the Government doing on 13th May when there were six Ministers of State for Minimum that is required is that Parliamentary Affairs? Earlier, there was this Govemment must be admonished. a tradition that there will be three Ministers in-charge of Parliamentary Affairs. They [TIans/arion] used to be two from this House and one from the other House. But, today there Though, no ordinance can be a are six Ministers. Despite this, the solution of any negligence on the part of Parliamentary Affairs are being run in this the Government, yet there are many way. They introduced this Ordinance in ordinances about which the Government the same manner which Shri Mavlankar had full knowledge that these ordinances had termed as inherently undemocratic should become a law before 31st May. procedure. I think it should not be pushed In this regard, a Bill should ha~e been through on the basis of majority. Hence, introduced in the House and it should it is very essential to censure the have been discussed thereadbare. They Government on this occasion. should have said that if such and such Bills were not passed betore 31st May, [English] a constitutional crisis would crop up. The House was even ready to sit on 14-15, MR. SPEAKER: I want, perhaps, after Saturday and Sunday but at that one explanation from you on this. If there time it did not occur to the Government. is a question of breach of Constitution It was because T.N. Seshan was reigning and adjustment of the procedure, which their mind. It resulted in issuance of one should we accept? ordinances which would be ratified on the basis of majority. However, being a SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: I accept custo.dian of this House, you have a that. Therefore, I do not protest against respJ>nsibility also. Shri Mavlankar had your allowing them. I am saying about created such a pr~cedent during the the failure. There was nothing between Prime Ministership of Pandit Nehru that 13th May which made them to do this. 1I0body dare to speak before him. While It is their indifference. It is their laxity. protecting the rights of the Parliament, It is their lack of awareness. 451 Manipur Municipalities Bill JUNE 13, 1994 Man/pur Municipalities 8il/452

[Translation] SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: We give you advice. How do we know that this Government is functioning in a SHRI CHARNDRAJEET YADAV responsible manner? (Azamgarh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a very serious matter. You have raised another question that if there is a breach of MR. SPEAKER: Not one but two Constitution or the provisions of the Members have said this. Constitution are violated then who will go by its provisions? It is true that there is SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: a breach of the Constitution but it The people in the Government have a becomes our primary duty to safeguard basic responsibility to run the Government the Constitution as well as its provisions. according to the Rule of the Law and the There are now two opinions that why did Constitution. If they go in a different way, this situation arise? As Shri Advani has they should accept their responsibility. It said, the serious question is that the had been better, if the hon. Home Government was not woken up to this Minister would have made a statement. issue. Sir, my objection is that if the He could have at least sought on apology Government was not woken up to the that it is a mistake on their part. In such issue and continued to show laxity and a situation, we would not have become lower the dignity of this House or the an obstacle. But the dignity demands that Constitution due to its negligence, it is the Government should seek an apology not a good sign. I think, we must go into and assure that such mistake will not be these two aspects. It is surprising that repeated in the future. Sir, Keeping in when a meeting was called, which was view the dignity of this House, you should attended by the Ministers also, and the get it done. dates of the session were decided, the Government did not know then that such {English a situation would arise and it will have to fulfil its constitutional obligation. In THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- addition to Parliamentary Department, FAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): May I there are two or three other departments. intervene in this matter? I can understand However, the concerned departments the feelings of the hon. Members that were supposed to fulfil their there are certain very sacred traditions responsibilities, but they did not do so. of this House. But conditions were such Rather, the House was put into a difficult that we had hardly any option because situation and it was forced to be prorogued of the information which we got from against the established convention. In Punjab. Actually, when Ihe Punjab Acl this episode, besides yourself, the hon. was amended, il was not applicable to President was also involved and Chandigarh. It was to be made applicable parliamentary conventions were thereafter in consonance with the provi- broken. It is a very serious matter and sions of Ihe Constitution. In case of Delhi you should give your ruling on this ... also, we never had elections in the (Interruptions) NDMC. For the first time, it was discussed at considerable length whether some MR. SPEAKER: If I ask you another kind of a democratic set up was possible question, you people will advice me from or not. And ultimately, it was decided that there itself. it would not be possible as it would 453 Manipur Municipalities BillJYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Punjab Municipal Corpn. 454 Law (Extension to Chandigarh) Bill create lots of problems. That is why, it The suggestion is: came at such a time when both the Houses were adjourned. There was no "That leave be granted to introduce other option left to Govemment. That is a Bill to provide for constitution and why, in order to be in consonance with organisation of municipalities in the the provisions of the Constitution, we Urban areas of Ma!lipur and for wanted to have this before 31st May, matters connected therewith and 1994. That was the last limit which was incidental thereto." laid down and that is why, this prayer had to be made. I cannot possibly say The Motion was adopted. that hereafter such an occasion will not SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: , intro- arise. If I say that then you may say. duce the Bill. "you had given the assurance that you will not come before the House." So if any such situation, which is beyond the control of the Government, were to come 15.24 hrs. all of a sudden, then we have to some- times concede to such things. So far as EXPLANATORY STATEMENT this incident is concerned, at least I have GIVING REASONS FOR no doubt in saying that we should have IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION BY taken more than enough care to see that THE MANIPUR MUNICIPALITIES we were within the time limit. But we ORDINANCE could not do that. In fact, I really feel that we should have avoided this. {English]

SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: THE MINISTER OF URBAN DE- Union Territories come under you. You VELOPMENT (SHRIMATI SHEILA should have known it. KAUL): I beg to lay on the Table an Explanatory statement (Hindi and English MR. SPEAKER: I think, the Gov- versions) giving reasons for immediate ernment appears to have taken note of legislation by the Manipur Municipalities the feelings of the Members. It is always Ordinance. 1994. better to avoid such an awkward situation. We expect and hope that thet would be done in future. 15.24 V2 hrs.

[Translation] PUNJAB MUNICIPAL CORPORATION LAW SHRI NITISH KUMAR: You have (EXTENSION TO CHANDIGARH) spoken in a soft language. BILL'

[English] [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Even with harsh THE MINISTER OF HOME words, you are not· controllable. AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I beg to

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[Shri S.B. Chavan) PROF. PREM DHUMAL (Hamirpur): Sir, I would like to say one more thing. move for leave to introduce a Bill to This Bill provides for the extension of this provide for the extem"ion of the Punjab Act to Chandigarh. There are several Municipal Corporation Act, 1976 to the Municipal Corporations in Punjab and Union Territory ot Chandigarh. each has a population of about five lakh. But there, 30 Councillors are elected to MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: each corporation. However, the population "That leave be granted to introduce of Chandigarh is much more than these a Bill to provide for the extension Corporations. Here, you have provided of the Punjab Municipal Corporation ten elected and nine nominated members. Act, 1976 to the Union Territory Suppose, one or two members of a ruling of Chandigarh." party are elected, that party will nominate other nine members and in this way it Do we have to discuss this? can grab the posts of Mayor and Deputy Mayor. As Atalji has said what type of [Translation] a model is being evolved for Chandigarh? Jhuggi-Jhonpari clusters have also come SHRI LAL K. ADVANI up there. Therefore, do not opt for this (Gandhinagar): Mr. Speaker, Sir, it should type of model. It should be changed or be made clear whether in addition to 10 modified. members, other 9 members shall be officials or nominated? Basically, it should SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: This is all be changed. being done in the name of local adminis· tration. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, 10 members [English] shall be elected and 9 members shall be nominated. What is this model of demo- And particularly in the case of cracy which is being set up in Chandigarh? Chandigarh this is all being done in the It is good that an initiative is being taken name of self-governance. You should in this direction. But it should not be that also note that Chandigarh does not have we are confronted with obstacles at the an Assembly. very first step. Sir, it is not acceptable to this House. The han. Home Minister should reconsider it. [Translation]

DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA Chandigarh has been striving on (Mandsaur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the this point that it should have one repre- original Act there was a provision of 40 sentative in the administration. Though and 50 members but the Government you are doing it for the first time yet it has cut it down to ten elected and nine is bureaucracy dominated in that way nominated members. It is not proper. also. Further, they have also been given the right to vote which is absolutely against {English] par1iamentary convention. It is not proper because it is not consistent with its SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL origiAal spirit. (Chandigarh): Sir, after the introduction 457 Punajb Municipal Corporation JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Law (Extension to 458 Chandigarh) Bill of the Bill, I do intend to move an Punjab, there are 30 elected members amendment and I am confident that the for a population of 5-6 lakh. In this way, hon. Minister would take that into he is creating an anomaly. Further, he consideration and all those pOints which has said one surprising thing that arise subsequently after the introduction Chandigarh is a disputed territory. The when we discuss that. The opportunity Hon. Member Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal has to be given to us. has been elected from this Constituency. Is the population of this parliamentary [Translation] constituency, on the basis of the number of voters, is less in comparison with the population of a constituency in Punjab or SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Basically, this notion is wrong. It should not have Haryana? When a M.P. can represent Chandigarh, why cannot a Municipal been introduced this way. Councillor?

[English] [English] SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Sir, may I explain the position? Sir, with great SHRI JAG MEET SINGH BRAR difficulty we have been able to persuade (Faridkot): Many times we have said that both the Government of Punjab as well we are going to hand over Chandigarh as the Government of Haryana. This is to Punjab. On several occasions the hon. a disputed territory and both the State Home Minister has stated during his visit Governments are having some kind of a to Punjab and even in the House ... claim on this city. Both were, in fact, totally opposed to any kind of a local MR. SPEAKER: How is this rel- body status being given for Chandigarh. evant? But I quite see the pOint that the strength of the local representatives need to be increased. If I have to justify, I can SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: I definitely say that in the MCD, for every just want to ask him .... 60,000 population, we are giving representation to one member. And if the MR. SPEAKER: Should we be same proportion is to be made applica~le allowed to ask questions which are not in the case of Chandigarh, it fits in on this point? completely. But I will not exactly go on this logic. I concede that some kind of SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: an amendment will be necessary at an The other question which is relevant to appropriate stage. At this stage, I would this is, at that time it was decided that not like to commit myself. if it is handed over to Punjab or Haryana, the Assembly will be extended and these {Translation] seats will be again included in the State to which it is given. What is the spirit PROF. PREM DHUMAL: Sir, the of the Rajiv-Longowal Accord? I am sorry hon. Minister has quoted only MCD but to say this. Most humbly I would remind we are going to extend Punjab Act to , the hon. Home Minister that he himseH Chandigarh. As I have said earlier, in has assured this several times. 459 New Delhi Municipal JUNE 13, 1994 Council Bill 460

MR. SPEAKER: The question is: move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the establishment of the New "That leave be granted to introduce Delhi MuniCipal Council and for matters a Bill to provide for the extension connected therewith or incidental thereto. of the Punjab Municipal Corporation Act, 1976 to the Union Territory of MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: Chandigarh." "That leave be granted to introduce The Motion was adopted. a Bill to provide for the establlsh- ment of .the New Delhi MuniCipal SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I introduce Council and for matters connected the Bill. therewith or incidental thereto."

(Translation] 15.33 hrs. SHRI B.L. SHARMA 'PREM' (East EXPLANATORY STATEMENT Delhi): I would like to submit that Delhi GIVING REASONS FOR is a metropolitan city. There is MCD on IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION BY the one hand and NDMC, on the other. THE PUNJAB MUNICIPAL When eiections to MCD can be held and CORPORATION LAW the elected representatives can perform (EXTENSION TO CHANDIGARH) their duties, then I strongly oppose the ORDINANCE stand of the Government not to hold election to NDMC. This is an {English] undemocratic step.

THE MINISTER OF HOME SHRI LAL K. ADVANI AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I beg to (Gandhinagar): I would like to add that lay on the Table an explanatory statement holding elections would have been a (Hindi and English versions) giving better step. But it is provided that there reasons for immediate legislation by the would be six nominated representatives-5 Punjab Municipal Corporation Law nominated and one presiding officer. (Extension to Chandigarh) Ordinance. Further, there will be five public 1994. representatives. Among them will also be elected MLAs of NDMC. But, it should be just opposite. 15.33"2 hr•. {English] NEW DELHI MUNICIPAL COUNCIL BILL· . At least the Chairman of the NDMC should be a representative of the people. {English] Even before elections can be introduced, that would be an ideal situation. But this THE MINISTER OF HOME kind of lopsided arrangement in the Bill AFFAIRS (5HAI 5.S. CHAVAN): I beg to . today is not right.

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[Translation] ment of the New Delhi Municipal Council and for matters connected I would like that the existing system therewith or incidental thereto." of NDMC should be changed on the lines of the assurances given in the case of The motion was adopted. Chandigarh ..If elections could be con- ducted, it would be a good step and if SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I introduce not, then this proportion of representatives the Bill. is not proper.

[English] 15.36 hrs. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I have already stated that we cannot think of having EXPLANATORY STATEMENT elections in these areas. If a public repre- GIVING REASONS FOR sentative were to be made the Chairman, IMMEDIATE LEGISLATION BY he will have the powers without responsi- THE NEW DELHI MUNICIPAL bility. The administrator has the full res- COUNCIL ORDINANCE ponsibility of carrying out what the Council [English] decides. That is why, even this Chairman is also going to be from the public, but he THE MINISTER OF HOME is an eminent person who has sufficient AFFAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): Sir, I knowledge and experience of municipal beg to lay on the Table an explanatory administration. In this capacity as an statement (Hindi and English versions) eminent person, he is going to be the giving reasons for immediate legislation Chairman of that Committee. He will be a by the New Delhi Municipal Council full-time Chairman who will be taking the Ordinance, 1994. responsibility as well as the power. I do not think this needs any chant1e.

[Translation] 15.36112 hrs.

SHRI KALKA DAS (Karol Bagh): MATIERS UNDER RULE 377 Sir, it is against the democratic system if the nominated or elected representatives (i) Need for central assistance to become the Members and a bureaucrat the State Government of becomes the Chairman. It would be Himachal Pradesh for providing proper and democratic if an elected relief to the farmers whose representative is appointed the Chairman, crops have been affected by till the election process starts. hailstorms

[English] [Translation]

MR. SPEAKER: The question is: SHRI KRISHAN DUn SULTAN- PURl (Shimla): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the "That leave be granted to introduce recent hailstorm in Himachal Pradesh a Bill to provide for the establish- has damaged the crops of apple and 463 Matters Under JUNE 13,1994 Rule 377 464

[Shri Krishan Dutt SultanpuriJ Mental illness is curable if detected at an early stage. But if it is allowed to other fruits. Apart from it, at several become chronic, complete curq is not places the standing crops of foodgrains possible. have also been damaged. People are unable to maintain economic balance to Mental health forms an integral their worsened economic condition. Prices part of the total health and social service of foodgrains and other essential scenario. commodies have gone up enormously and thus common people are facing a I urge upon the Central Government great difficulty. I have already brought to formulate comprehensive scheme to the position in the knowledge of the provide more funds to State Governments Minister of Agriculture. State Govemment so. as to enable them to provide better does not have enough funds to facilities to mental patients in the country. compensate the loss.

(iii) Need for construction of an So, I urge upon the Central Gov- overbridge sub-way on railway ernment to send a study group for taking crossing at Ramghat road in stock of the situation. If this could not Aligarh, Uttar Pradesh be done early then the State Govemment should be asked to send the report and economic relief should be provided on [Translation] the basis of that report so that the affected persons could be given SHRIMATI SHEELA GAUTAM compensation (Aligam): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to draw the attention of the Government (ii) Need to formulate Comprehen- towards accidents occurring at railway sive scheme to provide better crossing of Ramghat road in Aligam. It facilities to the patients suffer- is a very busy line, which links Delhi and ing from mental disorders Calcutta, this railway crossing often re- mains closed and number of accidents [English] are increasing day by day. An overbridge or sub-way for pedestrians is urgently needed on this railway crossing. SHRI BIJOY KRISHNA HANDIQUE (Jomat): Sir, there are nearly a million mental patients in India and due to Therefore, I request the Central absence of adequate facilities, many Govemment that an overbridge/subway State Governments are forced to send should be constructed immediately on these helpless patients to jails where Ramghat road railway crossing in A1igam. many of them die prematurely. (iv) Need to ensure early payment The total number of beds for mental of dues to sugarcane growers patients 'is 25,000 in 45 mental hospiials particularly in aareilly district, where at least 8,00,000 are required. The Uttar Pradesh majority of mental hospitals are quite out of date and are designed for detention SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): without regard to curative treatment. Mr. Speaker, Sir, sugarcane growers are 465 Matters Under Rule 377 JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) 466 in a deplorable condition in the country [English) mainly due to delayed payments by sugar mills who are their major buyers. MR. SPEAKER: We may now take Uttar Pradesh has always been prominent up item No. 18, viz. Transplantation of in the production of sugarcane but farmers Human Organs Bill. Are there any Mem- are not paid its prices in time. During the bers who want to speak on the Bill? last session. the Government gave an assurance that payment to sugarcane SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi growers would be made immediately but Nagar): Mr. Speaker Sir, before we take the payment has not been made as yet, up the discussion on Transplantation of especially by the Government run sugar Human Organs Bill, I would like to make mill of Bareilly in Uttar Pradesh. Whereas a submiSSion. Now that the recovery of loans and Government expen- Representation of the People (Second diture continues and thus farmers face Amendment) Biil is introduced, I would great problems. draw your attention to the fact that it has to be referred to the Standing Committee So, I urge upon the Government concerned. When the Standing to issue orders to State Government and Committees were formed, it was agreed officials of the sugar mill situated in that all Bills excepting those which are Bareilly district for immediate payment to technical in nature, would be referred to sugarcane growers. the Standing Committee concerned. This, in a way, is the duty cast on the Speaker. (v) Need to set up agriculture based I would like to draw your attention to it. Small Scale Industries and a I can cite from rules that have been Heavy Industries at Chhapra in framed which have now become a part Bihar of the procedure.

SHRI LALL BABU RAI (Chhapra): MR. SPEAKER: I will come to that. Mr. Speaker, Sir, my Parliamentary constituency Chhapra is an industrially THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE backward area. Consequently educated MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE youth of the State migrate to other DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENT OF States. This area has a great potential YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS) AND for small scale and agriculture based MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY \ industries. Since no heavy industry has OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI been set up in this area, there is no MUKUL WASNIK): I would like to submit scope for progress of small scale that towards the end of the last Session, industries. Earlier there was Saran it was decided to call a Session or rather Engineering Industry which has now been extend the Session for about three or closed down. four days to discuss the Bill.s relating to Electoral Reforms including the So I urge upon the Central Constitution Amendment Bill and the Government to set up a heavy industry Representation of the People Bill. The along with the small and agriculture point that Advaniji has raised is that all based industries at Chhapra at the eartiest. Bills have to be necessarily referred to the respective Standing Committees. If that procedure is adopted here, I am 467 JUNE 13, 1994 Transplantation of Human 468 Organs Bill

[Shri Mukul Wasnik] to the Standing Committee if it is not technical in nature. afraid, it may not be possible to discuss the Bills which have beeIJ introduced. It was generally known during our previous meetings also that these Bills would be taken up for consideration in this Sitting. [English]

MA. SPEAKER: We will now take MA. SPEAKEA: I am sure the up further discussion on the Transplanta- Ministers must have been aware of the tion of Human Organs Bill. actual provision of the Law and they must have anticipated what would happen! 15.46 hrs.

SHAI LAL K. ADVANI: We have TRANSPLANTATION OF HUMAN not pressed this point earlier because the ORGANS BILL Bills can be referred to Standing Com- mittees only after they are introduced. As passed by Rajya Sabha; and Earlier, they have not been introduced and hence we did not press the point. But I may mention here that this was the As reported by the Select basis on which the Standing Committees Committee-Contd. were constituted. Now, you are trying to deny the Standing Committee its right to [Translation] discuss such a very important Bill. DR. LAXMINAAAYAN PANDEYA (Mandsaur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, earlier this SHAI MUKUL WASNIK: It has been Bill was referred to Select Committee specifically mentioned in the rules that which has given its unanimous report on the hen. Speaker of Lok Sabha and the it. You· have brought this amendment hon. Chairman of Aajya Sabha will decide after that. I could not understand that as to which Bills need to be referred to what is the use of constituting a Select the Standing Committee. It has not been Committee. Select Committee has categorically mentioned therein that all Members from aU the political parties, Bills introduced in the House will have representatives from the concerned to be referred to the Standing Committees. Ministry. It is a unanimous report passed earlier by Rajya Sabha and it has been MR. SPEAKER: When we framed brought here later on. The Select the rules, that was the intention. All the Committee was set up and they seriously Bills were expected to be referred to the discussed for 4-6 days. All the concerned Standing Committees. Only the Bills of parties were heard and evidences were technical nature were not to be referred taken and thereafter the report was by the. Speaker and that is why the prepared. Now after a short interval the discretion was given to the Speaker to Government has brought an amendment decide whether a particular Bill is of a and therefore, there is no time for making -technical nature and it should not be amendment in the amendment. I am referred to the Standing Committee. But, ready to give my verbal amendment, if the Speaker is duty bound to refer a Bill you accept that. I request you to include 469 Transplantation of JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Human Organs Bill 470 some words in it... (Interruptions) .. What [Translation] will be our position in that case. We will move an amendment on MR. SPEAKER: Your position will the motion and say whatever we have be in accordance with the Rules. This Bili to say only if it is in the unlisted business was brought during the last session. You and has been circulated. can give amendments. [English] DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: I have pointed it out because this was How can you move a motion in this circulated today and we got it today itself. manner?

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: For MR. SPEAKER: Time will be given suspension of rules, motions are moved for it, if you have received it today. in this manner. (Interruptions)

DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: I SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Let him have said this because the time for bring a motion tomorrow. discussion on it has been allocated after 3 p.m. We have not been given time to [Translation] give amendments on the Amendment moved by the Government. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (Lucknow): What is the Bill on which he MR. SPEAKER: It will not be com- wants to suspend the rule? pleted today because only 10 or 15 minutes have been left. SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: will tell you what is it about. I am telling [English] you the rule

THE MINISTER OF WATER [English} RESOURCES AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Sir, let him VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA): Normally, the give a formal notice. We will consider it Bills that are introduced in the House and move our amendments. He cannot have to be referred to the Committee and stand up in this manner. that is the practice we have adopted so far. All the Bills are referred to the SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: If. respective departmentally related Standing you permit me, I will move a formal Committees. But, looking at the urgency motion. of this matter, with your permission, Sir, I would like to move a motion verbally. [Translation] (Interruptions) SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): Now SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi Transplantation Bill is coming up for Nagar): What is urgency? It has not even discussion; why are you interrupting In been circulated. that? 471 Transplantation of JUNE 13, 1994 Human Organs Bill 472

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: is as I said it before and as I said it in Why are you getling panicky? Be the House also - you were not present patient ..... (Interruptions) in the House - that the Speaker is duty bound to refer it to the Standing SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): Committee. But supposing the House Two things have been assigned to the decides otherwise, then what will happen? hon. Minister: ...... and the other is that of Parliamentary Affairs. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE (Lucknow): By 'House', you mean [English] majority?

MR. SPEAKER: That will not form MR. SPEAKER: Yes. part of the record. SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Let them [Translation] give due notice on this. (Interruptions)

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: [Translation] When meetings were called at the respective party offices today moming, the question that whether the proposed SHRI ATAL BIHARI VA":PAYEE: Bill should be s~nt to the Standing They will be whimsical. Committee was raised. You had clearty indicated that both the Bills should go to [English] the Standing Committee. Now, the hon. Minister has brought in a motion of SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: suspension of rules. Would he like to What is meant by manmaani? decide it by a majority vote? Will you (Interruptions) permit him?

[Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Why?

SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: SHRI ATAL BIHAR I VAJPAYEE: If Because he wants to bypass the Standing such a situation arises, we might be in Committee. All the Bills go to the Standing minority but if our opinion is not sought Committee. What for have Standing and they resort to manmani, we will not Committees been constituted? We do not let the House run. (Interruptions) agree with the proposition that the Government may not send a Bill it SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: A person intends to pass immediately, to the like Shri Vajpayee, who through all these Standing Committee. years. admonished his partymen for violating the dignity of the House, has [English] been compelled to utter these words.

MR. SPEAKER: Let us understand SHRI VIDHACHARAN SHUKLA: I the correct position. The correct position did not compel him.

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SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: You have [English] compelled him. He has always upheld the dignity of the House. ·The Speaker is duty bound to refer the matter to the Standing (Interruptions) Committee" .

MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. [Translation]

(Interruptions) On this han. Vajpayeeji asked who MR. SPEAKER: You do not keep has the right to refer the Bill? You replied quiet unless I admonish you. that the House can refer it. On asking whether it is a right by majority you replied in affirmative. On this he said that SHRI NITISH KUMAR: majority will not be allowed to go Transplantation Bill was being debated. whimsical. When I intervened to say that What new Bill is being brought up in majority does not mean whim, he become between? (Interruptions) annoyed.

[English] MR. SPEAKER: Vajpayeeji never gets annoyed. MR. SPEAKER: This is not correct. Now, I think that there had been discussions between the Leaders and my SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: I impression is that the things are moving would like to say very respectfully that in a proper direction. Let not the temper majority does not mean manmani and flare up. Let the Leaders talk to each one should not get annoyed on it. I can other. Everything would be done in a not understand why Vajpayeeji and proper manner. Nobody is trying to violate Advaniji are getting annoyed on it when the rules or bypass the rules. Let there I have not said anything wrong. If we are be a discussion between the Leaders. in majority, respect to House, We will do it. Because this happens to Parliamentary procedures. (Interruptions) be the Electoral Reforms Bill, it is in the fitness of things that everybody is taken into confidence and with consensus and Majority does never mean whim. agreement everything should be done. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I reiterate that everybody Let us not go with an impression that known what majority means and it is somebody is out to violate the rules. Let wrong to construe it as us talk to each other and then decide. manmani... (lnterruptions)

[Translation] {English]

SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is too much. See for MR SPEAKER: We will look into it yourself. You clarified it. in a proper manner. 475 Transplantation of JUNE 13, 1994 Human Organs Bill 476

[Translation] DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: No, the amendment will be moved by the SHRI NITISH KUMAR: We are Government, then alone I can move my purturbed to see that YOlj have initiated amendment on that because I have given a discussion on a particular Bill. Shri the notice of my amendment over that Laxminarayan Pandeya was expressing amendment. Therefore, that should be some resentment and suddenly it took a given priority and moved first. new tum. MR. SPEAKER: All right, that will MR. SPEAKER: You are interrupting come up at the proper stage-the clause time and again. Everybody does not say by clause stage. Do you have to say so. anything on that?

SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): But DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: its solution is not coming forth. As I have already submitted, it is an important Bill and we all are interested {English] in its passage but the manner in which the Government is bringing it and trying MR. SPEAKER: Please let us do to pass the Bill in a hurry by immediately understand that all the Members sitting moving new amendments to it, is not here are conscious of the fact tilat benefitting to it. The doctors and different electoral reforms are something very specialists have been consulted in this very important and everybody is in a connection who have opined that the mood to hear the other side, consider it Government wants to pass it in a hurry. and take a proper decision. So let us not I hope, there is no need to get it passed jump to the conclusion that something in such a hurry. As I have said that the which should not be done would be Estimates Committee had accepted it done ...... unanimously and the clause on which the Estimates Committee had given its (Interruptionsj unanimous decision, was considered thread-bare and it was decided that this [Translation] clause should be incorporated in the Bill but the Government is again bringing an amendment over that clause. MR. SPEAKER: Then Transplantation Bill was taken up. We have to take up adjournment motion at It is not benefitting. The 4 p.m. Government may tomorrow move another amendment to it according to its sweet DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: convenience. Therefore, I would like to Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to move an make a submission .... amendment to the resolution moved by the Government. I may be permitted for SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: the same if that is available today itself. The Government is nl)t in a hurry. We given the time of months and years MR. SPEAKER; You may speak on together and have also discussed It that. Then only seek time for moving an mutually. We have discussed It In the amendment. speaker's chamber separately and tried 477 Transplantation of JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 478 Human Organs Bill

to bring in a Bill on unanimous decision 16.00 hrs. but despite our efforts ... (lnterruptions) You don't listen to me but speak whatever MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Shri Nitish you like. It has been our endeavour to Kumar also should be invited for a cup reach a consensus and it always takes of coffee. time. Consensus can't be reached at in a hurry. SHRI NITISH KUMAR: But it should be without sugar. SHRI NITISH KUMAR: It is again Transplant. What is happening here?

[English} 16.0 '/2 hrs. SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: Are we discussing the procedural matter MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT on Human Transplantation Bill? I do not know. Which Bill are we discussing, Sir? Sugar Situation

MR. SPEAKER: Human Trans- plantation Bill. [Translation}

(Interruptions) SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH (Jahanabad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: beg to move that: That is your outlook, what you want to 'Ido that. What is the hurry about it? "The House may be adjourned," \(Interruptions)

Such an adjournment motion is MR. SPEAKER: After we have only moved when there is an emergency gone to that Bill! or a crisis in the country. The sugar situation in the country is responsible for [Translation} this crisis. There is a great rise in the price of sugar and most of the people DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: cannot afford to buy it at such a The Government wants to pass it in a exhorbitant price. This is a marriage hurry without having listened to my point season which is called the 'Lagan' period he has prepared himself for the reply. in the rural areas. Sugar is most required This proves that the Government is in in this season by the poor and the rich a hurry. They want to do everything in alike. Besides, it is an important a whirnsical manner. commodity for every household. Today, sugar is being sold at Rs. 18 to 20 per [English) kilo and the Government is watching it as a silent spectator. The Government SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Sir, he is in will have to answer for this, for the tension, ask him to relax with a cup of reasons behind it? The Government did coffee. nothing in this regard and t1)e poor had 479 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 480

[Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh] a millionaire over night but after going through this experience, now I have to to suffer on this account. You must make come to know that it is quite possible. clarifications in this regard. Through you, But I am quite sure about one thing in I also want to raise some points. this regard that some bungling has taken place otherwise thIS issue would not have The new economic policy was been raised in the House. After the presented in this House. The Government meeting of the Prime Minister the Ministry had given some clarifications and it was of Commerce did not pay any attention also opposed at that time. While to it for the next 2 months and four days presenting the policy, the Government i.e. from 9th April to 13 May the Ministry had submitted that this policy, besides kept quiet. It ruined the country. The strengthening the economic condition Cabinet Secretary intervened and asked would also check the price rise. Now you FCI to go for import of sugar but Ministry can judge yourself, who was right the of Commerce later on stopped it. It Government or the persons who were proves that the Government was well opposing it. Today prices of all aware about the soaring prices of sugar commodities are soaring to new heights. and it is the Government, which is The Government measures have been responsible for this CriSIS. The Government should at least feel ashamed totally inaffective in checking the price that they themselves are responsible for rise. I would like to ask the Food Minister, the suffering of the people. Thirdly, the was he not aware of it earlier? It was Government are aware about the clear in 1993 that in the coming month statewise production of sugar and that there would be acute shortage of sugar. now it has been declining. Had the In the beginning of 1994, the prices of Government imported sugar in time then sugar started soaring, the Government the businessmen could not have looted remained inactive. The businessmen the people by increasing the price of availed the opportunity and as a result sugar. You have data with you, the sugar thereof the price of sugar have risen to Mills in Bihar were on the top but today Rs. 20 per kIlogram. they are lying sick. A number of other Mills are also facing closure and the Thereafter, the Prime Minister called sugar production is declining. There is a a meeting on 18th April in which ·STC reason behind such a situation that the and MMTC were ordered to immediately farmers, who sell their sugarcane to the import sugar. Had an action in this regard Mills do not get payment on time. They been taken immediately after the Prime were facing problems and they reduced Minister's meeting then the Government the production of sugarcane. The would have controlled it and the people Government also knows about this fact could have saved from such an that due to the production of jaggery and embarassment. When there was a steep khandsari the sugar production was also rise in the prices of sugar, the STC affected. In such a situation, the officers also took incentive, but somehow Government should have accepted in the Shri Kalpnathji dissuded them. It is in the House that they have committeed a air in rural areas that elections are round mistake. Instead the Government started the corner, that is why there is a rise giving vague arguments and some of in the price of sugar and the Government them are sufficient to confuse you. I want has earned crores of rupees. Earlier, I to ask, what are the duties of the used to wonder, how one can become Government? The Govemment is meant 481 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 482

to provide facilities and safety to the alone as allegations have been levelled people not to loot them. This Government against the han. Minister of Food. is not paying any attention towards providing facilities to the comma!) people. Sir, when the role of the Cabinet I therefore, want to submit that this Secretary is discussed, who will reply? Government has no right to remain in I would like to know who will reply on power. This is not a small issue, it is an the points relating to directions issued or important issue. Either you or the decisions taken by the Prime Minister'S Government can solve this issue but the Secretariat from time to time? Replies Government has not thought about its cannot be given by S!1ri Kalp Nath Rai. result. I want to submit that we have Therefore, I think that the Hon. Prime moved this motion for Adjournment to Minister should be present in the House bring the drawbacks of the Government if justice is to be done to the Adjoumment to the light. How this Government is Motion, as I stated earlier that the issue working in a shameless manner. The does not pertain to one Ministry alone. Government on the other hand claims Though it had been estimated that due that it is the most efficient Government to antiCipated decline in the production and only they can run this nation. Now of sugarcane the production of sugar will you can decide yourself whether or not also be less, yet no proper estimation this Government is able to run this was done to increase availability of sugar nation. With this I conclude. in the open market or through the Public [English] Distribution System? From the beginning, it was known ttlat sugarcane crop will not MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved: be good, yet no timely steps were taken. Facts and figures are not only quite "That the House do now adjoum." astonishing but are also likely to create apprehensions in the mind. Unfortunately, [Translation] the atmosphere prevailing in the country is such that oversees fishy in everything. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE Therefore, there is the need for making (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the everything transparent. There is need to discussion initiated by my hon. friend on present all the facts before the House. the Adjoumment Motion does not pertain However, this is not being done. to one Ministry only. Delay in import aT sugar has resulted in skyrocketing of sugar prices. This issue does not pertain Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to to the Ministry of Food alone, but is know when was the action taken on the related to the Ministry of Commerce too. note sent on 24th January by the hon. Though the Prime Minister's Secretariat Minister of Food to the Cabinet, wherein and the Cabinet Secretary were also it was mentioned that there was likelihood actively involved in the matter, yet I am of shortage of 10 lakh tonnes of sugar. seeing that the hon. Minister of Food is For 6 to 7 weeks, no decision was taken. the only Minister, present in the House. I would like to know the reasons for the This issue is very important and has same? Secondly, was it not clear that wider ramifications on the life of there will be sugar shortage in the commonman. Therefore, the Government country? Upward trend in sugar prices should come out with clarifications. Which was the warning signal, especially when can be given by the hon. Prime Minister there was no downward trend in sugar 483 Motion for Adjoumment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjoumment 484

IShri Atal Bihari Vajpayee) country. The prices have skyrocketed. There is the need to look into all these prices after the festival season was over, things, because marriage season is on was clearcut the waming shot. During and in the surnmer season people drink festival. season, sugar prices tend to go more 'Sharbat'. Apprehensions cannot be littie high but afterwards come down to allayed by giving clarifications. the old level. However, nothing of this sort was witnessed this year. I can quote Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to figures in this regard. These were the reiterate that delay of 6-7 weeks was warning shots. In view of these warning witnessed. I WOUld, therefore, like to signals, sugar irnports should have been know who is responsible for the same? immediately undertaken. I would like to The han. Minister of Food will state that reiterate that for 6 to 7 weeks no decision a note was sent to the Cabinet and the was taken. In the meeting held on 8th latter did not take any decision. A march in connection with the note of 24th clarification in this regard should be given January a decision was taken to import by the Cabinet. Indian consumers incurred sugar under O.G.L., but the decisior got losses while the foreign sugar traders leaked. I am levelling these allegations cornered all the benefits. with all seriousness. This news that India is going to import sugar under OGL reached the intemational market. Actually, Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is anticipated international market of sugar is confined that in addition to the shortages in the to in London and is controlled by a open market, it is antiCipated that PDS handful of companies there. These will also be witnessing shortage of one companies come to know that India is million tonne of sugar. I would like to facing sugar shortage and imports will be submit that when the question of sugar undertaken under O.G.L. I would like to imports was being discussed, nothing know why did not the Government decide was being done regarding the Public on its own to irnport sugar? As a result Distribution System. Drought is the rna in of the leaking of the decision, sugar reason for decline in the production of prices in the international market went up sugarcane. Sugarcane instead of reaching by $50 to 60 per tonne. I can quote the sugar mills was diverted for the production statistics of earlier international prices of of 'Gur'. This resulted in fall in the sugar which were less. At that time, production of sugar and consequently, sugar could had been imported without decline in levy sugar for PDS. The poor much ado. By making proper forecast of purchase sugar from ration shops as demand for sugar at low international sugar is also an essential commodity. prices, sugar could have been imported. However, delay was witnessed and even I remember one prices of onion the news of delayed steps taken reached had skyrocketed and hue and cry was abroad which resulted in spurt in prices. witnessed everywhere. People sitting on that side were making an issue of it and It is my belief that this scandal is were also shedding crocodile tears. Onion of the magnitude of Rs. 1,000 crore. In is pungent, but sugar too has also turned international market, Rs. 300 crore extra bitter during the sugar crisis. Sufferings was paid and if an· evaluation of Indian of the housewives purchasing sugar at market is made, then the consumers Rs. 20 per kg. could be imagined. have paid Rs. 700 crore extra within the However, if this is due to mismanagement 485 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 486 then who is responsible for this getting distorted. When it had been mismanagement or is it a scandal? decided to import sugar and distribute Whatever was touched by Gandhiji got the same through the PDS to the public, converted into Gold but Government is then the question of payment of subsidy concerned in whichever treads, scandal should also have been decided. The han. is witnessed. The Government is Minister of Finance time and again had converting everything into scandals. This indicated that subsidy will not be given. is not the mischievous propaganda of the Had STC and MMTC imported sugar and Opposition. The Opposition is just incurred losses, then they would have apprising the House and the Government been pulled up for the same as those of the sentiments of the people. selling sugar at cheap rates, are likely to be grilled. l would like to know whether Mr. Speaker, Sir, should it not have Ihe twin issues of import of sugar and been discussed as to whether imports the payment of subsidies should not will be undenaken for PDS? Whose have been decided together? These responsibility was it to think about this? should have been sorted aut eariier. Why nothing was done in this regard? Since these were not sorted out earlier. Statistics of the Ministry of Food are with Since these were not sorted out early, me. Release order for sugar is given by delay occurred in importing sugar. This the Ministry of Food and it teils the sugar was also the reason for the increase in mills as to how much quantity is to be international prices and domestic prices. relased in a particular month. In the Only by April end, it was decided to month less quantity of sugar was released. import sugar for PDS. However, the I would like to know the reasons for the decision was not implemented. Twin same? In May, more quantity of sugar issues 01 extent of subsidy and payment should have been released as alongwith of subsidy were not sorted out. Sugar it being summer month, there was shortage issue was being tackled by marriage season also. The result was PMO and at this juncture, the Cabinet that people could not get adequate Secretary come into the picture. Before quantity 01 sugar from PDS. Even the boarding the aircraft on i 4th May for poor could not offer 'Gur sharbat' to th3 foreign tour, the han. Prime Minister took bridegrooms family and will have to offer the Cabinet Secretary to a side and 'Sharbat' made of sugar. Even the poor taking his had into his own--this 1 have purchased sugar at high prices from the read in the newspapers. I was not market. What was the reason for the present there-told him that short supply of sugar at PDS shops? If imports had to be resorted to, then why [English] the estimation was not made? Whose responsibility was all this? Sugar is being Something will have to be done in sold through PDS at Rs. 9 per kg. and regard to sugar. on it, Rs. 3 per kg. is being given as subsidy, [Translation] Mr. Speaker, Sir, since the day our relations with the Wor1d Bank and the The hoo. Prime Minister was going IMF have taken new tum provision or on such an important tour, but instead subsides is acting as a big stumbling of worrying about the issues to be taken block and our decisions are increasingly up there and how those were going to 487 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 488

[Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayeej was submitted by the Public Accounts Committee. If I read out same portions be settled, was worrying about the of that report then it will be construed accentuation of the sugar crisis during that it is the report of 1994 and not of his absence from the country. That is 1989. why the han. Prime Minister took the cabinet secretary to a side and gave him [English] some instructions. On being questioned, it was stated that it was the job of the Initial delay of about three months cabinet secretary to discuss the sugar in according approval to the import of crisis with the Ministries of Food and sugar. Commerce. The han. Minister of Food was on the tour of Gazipur. It was being said that he was not available. Had the [Translation] han. Minister of Food been a thin and weak fellow, this alibi could have been Earlier there was no need to import understood. The hon. Minister of Food this much quantity of sugar. Earlier it cannot hide himself easily behind used to be a matter of importing only one somebody, Therefore, the question of or two lakh tonnes of sugar and even locating him does not arise. The then crisis developed. Even then Shri Government states that the hon. Minister Sukh Ramji was involved in the of Food could not be contacted. Through controversy. Therefore, he could not the District Magistrates anybody anywhere make it to the Lok Sabha. However, the in India can be easily contacted. If the scandal at that time was also similar. Government is not able to contact a Delay was seen in the matter of import Minister, when needed, then it all the of sugar. Issue of who is to be entrusted more reflects the incompetency of the with the task of importing sugar was the Government. Then in case of any bone of contention. Authority entrusted emergency, it would also be difficult to with the task of importing sugar gave the contact the han. Minister of State in the following reason for delay. Ministry of Defence. In the absence of the advice of the hon. Minister of Food, [English] a decision was taken, but the same·was turned down by him after returning from First tender enquiry floated on 23rd tour. Reasons for revoking the decision August, 1989 proved infructuous due to are cited from the report of the Public the failure of telex machine. Accounts Committee, headed by me.

[Translation] SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Just to please you. Later on, the officer informed that the machine was operational, but there SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: was no paper in it. Since there was no Only to save his own skin. I have that paper in the machine that's why figures report with me. How does the history of prices were not available. Machine repeat can be know from this. Situation was not giving information regarding the of 1989 got developed again in 1994. names of persons/companies giving Only after extensive enquiry, the report quotations and purchasers, yet the 489 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 490

Government was functioning. Preparations allow unregistered companies. Therefore, were on to import sugar. Time changes, the question is as to how did these come but the functioning of the Government into picture and what were the reasons never changes. Magnitude of scandal therefor? Further, I would like to know this time is bigger. More sugar needs to who will reply to all these questions? I be imported. People this time have faced submitted earlier that the hon. Minister more problems. Action Taken Report on of Food cannot reply to these questions the PAC report of 1989 is yet to be and only the hon. Prime Minister can give submitted. Howerver, from the feed back, reply as decisions were taken by the it is known that FCI refused to get Cabinet Secretary. What was the need involved in it and PAC also recommended to allow unregistered companies? Though that this is not the job of FCI. FCI only registered companies can trade in sugar, distributes sugar and if any deal is to be decision was taken to allow import of settled in London or at anyother place. sugar under OGL from open market. on equal footing, then there is a need Prices increased not only in India, but to be cautious. For these things experts abroad too. Therefore, crisis developed are required and the experts are available in India. Prices also increased as sugar only with STC and MMTC. Services of was not properly released by the Ministry the officers of the Ministry of Commerce of Food in the open market. could also be utilised. One thing is to be certain and that is whenever deal is Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is very made it should be very transparent but unfortunate that regarding sugar no nothing of this sort was witnessed. coordinated policy is being adopted. Sometime, sugarcane production Now, it is being informed that sugar increases and sometimes it comes down. is coming. Figures in this regard are I remember that Acharya Vinoba Shave available with me. Sugar has reached had said that a copetition continues ports in less quantity. However, the between sugarcane and foodgrains. quantity that has reached market is Foodgrains or sugarcane, either of the further less and the quantity which has two can be grown. India needs foodgrains reached shops is further more less. more than sugar. However, now demand Cannot the availability in the market be for sugar is increasing because 'Gur' augmented? I would like to know whether does not serve all the purposes. Now- in this regard a Task Force could not be a-days even 'Gur' is seeling at Rs, 20 constituted to successfully handle sugar per kg., but 'Gur Tea' is difficult to drink, crisis? I am of the opinion that the What will be the requirement of sugarcane Govemment did not do anything to handle for producing Gur, Khandsari and sugar? the sugar crisis effectively. Was the Govemment not capable Sir, in the last report of the PAC, of fomnulating a consolidated policy after a recommendation had been made that anticipating the things rightly? The State in future permission should not be granted Governments would have to assist in this to unregistered companies to trade in regard. Now, sugar prices have risen and such items, Credibility of the unregistered the Government should review the companies is in doubt and these also did prevailing situation with regard to profit not have any previous track record, earned by sugar mill owners and traders However, at the instance of the Cabinet respectively, There is misappropriation Secretary, many decisions were taken to and plundering everywhere and hapless 491 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 492

IShri Atal Bihari Vajpayee] mean that Govemment supporters, voters or consumers do not suffer due to price common man is forced to purchase rise. One person or the other will have sugar- at high price. It is true that people to raise the voice on behalf of people and do not condemn the Government overtly, the accused will have to be exposed and but there has been a scandal which is punished. It won't be possible to hide the glaring example to the Government's things for long and favour the wrong incapabilities. actions of the Government. No matter even if the culprit is a cabinet Minister There is another question whether or a big bureaucrat, he will have to be licences should be given for sugar mills accountable for wrong deeds. If this or not, and if these are to be given then Adjournment Motion proves positive in in what number? Uttar Pradesh, has influencing the Govemment, it would be been demanding for a license and Punjab a great success. has already got it. II has to be decided as to how many licences will have to be [English] given and how much sugar mill be required? There is one Govemment but MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mani Shankar it lacks coordination and different decisions are taken by different factions. Aiyar to speak. Ministers blame the bureaucrats while the bureaucrats condemn the Ministers SHRI MANI SHANKAR AIYAR at their back; and the purchasers are (Mayiladuturai): I have not given my only the sufferers. Mr. Speaker, Sir, that name. is why we are forced to bring the Adjournment Motion. This sugar scam SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay should be investigated by a high level North Central): Mr. Speaker, Sir, in a way committee. However, in the first place it is very encouraging that a very serious the Govemment should give a satisfactory issue of public importance has been clarification to the House and the facts raised on the first day of this Session. be placed there. Everything should be made clear. It is the second sugar scam SHRI ANNA JOSHI (Pune): It since 1989. My submission is that the happens every day. Government should take measures to prevent such scam in the future. But I SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Of course, am not. confident that the Govemment I would have liked if the Opposition had would take some measures in this regard. agreed to a discussion and if it had not Two sugar scams have already taken insisted upon an Adjournment Motion place during the reign of the present because it has some connotation of Government and if the Government censuring the Government. A free continues to remain in power, a third will inevitably take place. This Govemment discussion by the whole House would would certainly lose power if scams have been advisable as far as this issue continue to take place, but that is a is concemed. separate matter. I would like the Congress members also to think over the matters Sir, it cannot be gainsaid that sugar which are under the consideration of the is a daily necessity for every family. Government. We have moved an Therefore, the rise in the prices of sugar Adjournment Motion, but that does not is a very sensitive issue. If I am right, 493 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 494

I think, in the past, one of the the STC was directed, as I learn, to buy Governments had fallen because they eight lakh tonnes. And the total quantity could not control the sugar prices. It is of sugar contracted by State Trading' very serious issue and the Government Corporation and the Metals and Minerals should take this issue very seriously. Trade Corporation had gone up to 4.81 There is no doubt about it. I share partly lakhs. The schedule which is announced the concern expressed by the OppOSition is that 40000 tonnes are expected to regarding the hardship that is being reach Kandla Port in June; 84000 tonnes caused to the common man because of are expected to reach in July; 275000 this spurt in the sugar prices. tonnes in August and so on and so forth. One of the reasons which is given is that Now the main question is, what are import of sugar was required because of the failings of the Government in this the shortage of production in sugar. For matter and what should have been done? that purpose, if we analyse it, one of the Therefore, I had said earlier, it would reasons appears to be the policy regarding have been better if the Minister was molassis which diverted the sugar allowed to make a statement first on this production from sugarcane growers to clarifying the Government position so gur and khandasari and, therefore, the that there would have been a fair debate production fell as far as this season was in this House. In any case, now this concerned. matter having been raised in this fashion, we are bound to participate in it from that If we see all the reports regarding point of view only. Now the main.grievance the difference of opinion between the or the main attack of the opposition is Prime Minister's office and the Food that there has been delay in taking steps. Minister which appeared in a section of The conditions were known far in advance. the press. But these have be~n denied And if the Government had taken steps by the Food Minister himself and from at the right time regarding importing the the Prime Minister's office also. sugar, then perhaps, this situation would not have arisen. Now the figures show that the sugar production in the first Therefore, there is no substance in seven months of 1993-94 fell to 9.39 saying that there had been a muddle million tonnes compared to 10.27 million because of the differences of opinion tonnes in the same period for the previous between the different departments of this year. Government. The Food Minister had taken prompt steps for importing the sugar which was the only remedy for 16.43 hrs. controlling the sugar prices and accordingly he had also taken the cue [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] from the last Report of the Public Accounts Committee which had discouraged the And the National Federation of involvement of the Food Corporation of Sugar Factories had announced that India for importing the sugar. And, 5.77 million tonnes of sugar stocks was therefore, the Food Minister also took there on the 1st of May this year. The prompt action in correcting certain orders import of sugar which was the only which were issued relying upon the remedy for coritrolling the sugar prices recommendations of the Public Accounts was resorted to by this Government. And Committee. Therefore, it appears th" 495 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 496

[Shri Sharad Dighe] and the hardships of the common man will come to an end and the festival even though better and more prompt season which would be approaching action could have been taken by the thereafter would be celebrated by the Government, at least, at certain time the common man in a better condition. correct actions were taken for importing the sugar through STC and MMTC so It is because of the present policies that this can be controlled. I hope that of the Government. No doubt it is true when this importing of the sugar is that if the steps had been taken as early completed and by that time the new as February itself, this situation would not sugar season also will begin the whole have arisen. In any case the steps 'of crisis would come to an end and there importing the sugar and also announcing would be relief as far as the common the subsidy for the public distribution consumer is concemed. system, these two steps, will bring down the prices in the near future and we shall Now, unfortunately, as far as the have no occasion further to censure this demand for sugar from India increased Government as far as the sugar prices the prices in the international market also are concerned. As I said, it would have went up and that had also its own effect. been better if there had been a free It is said by the Food Minister-but I do debate in this House without censuring not want to justify the sugar prices on the Government. that account-and'l do not know on what basis that the sugar at present is the SHAI HARI KISHORE SINGH cheapest in India and that in the (Sheohar): The han. Member has said neghbouring countries the price is As. 20 that it would have been better if there per Kg. I do not for a moment want to had been a free debate without censuring justify this rise in the sugar prices on this the Govemment. Is there any restriction count at all because the sugar prices in on the debate now? Is he under pressure this country should be suited to the to speak? pocket of a common man and, therefore, we have got a public distribution system. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: You are a The Finance Minister has announced that seasoned parliamentarian. You know the due to constraints of the finances he will difference between these two devices not allow any subsidy as far as sugar when they are used and the restraint on is concerned. But he has gone further the Members of different political parties and said that just as 38 per cent average and I need not explain it to you. levy is there, here also for public distribution system full concession will be What I was saying is that there is given in the subsidy as far as the public no point in censuring the Government on distribution system is concerned. this issue. They have taken proper steps. The only thing is they should have taken 16.49 hrs. promptly these steps, so that these hardships would not have arisen as far [SHRI NlTISH KUMAR in the Chair) as the public is concerned.

If that is also done, I hope that in With these words, I oppose this the near future, the conditions will improve motion. 497 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 498

{Translation} had passed thereafter that the area under cultivation decreased from 38 lakh SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES hectares to 36 lakh hectares and the (Muzaffarpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, my production from 66 thousand kg. per opinion is that this discussion should not hectare to 63,800 kg. per hectare. The be confined only to the import of sugar reason was that the prices of fertilizers and the undue advantage taken by certain increased and farmers could not afford individuals. If the august House does not to use fertilizers of high quality. On the review the factors behind the present whole the total produce of sugarcane situation we would not be able to improve during 1991-92 was 25 crore 40 lakh the situation. Rather we would have to tonnes. The target set by the Agriculture bow to the conditions laid down by others Minister for the next year was 24 crores to get sugar from them. If we go through 38 lakh tonnes and the actual production the record of previous four years, we find confined to 23 crore tonnes. Now comes that there has been a gradual decline in the year 1993-94. These are Government the production of sugarcane. The land figures and not mine. The cultivated area under sugarcane cultivation is decreasing now reduced from 36 lakh hectares to gradually and the sugarcane yield per 34 lakh hectares making a reduction of hectare is also reducing resultantly. 3 per cent in total land under sugarcane cultivation. The target for production was I would like to refer to the figures 25 crore tonnes which has now been of the economic review presented by the reduced to 23 crores tonnes. The figures Government before introducing the regarding yield have not been furnished Budget. the total sugarcane cultivation so far. I would like to warn not only the area during 1989-90 was 34 lakh House but everybody, that it hardly hectares, having a yield of 65,000 kg. per matters as to which party forms the hectare, totaling 22 crore 50 lakh tonnes. Government and who becomes the In 1990-91 the cultivated area increased Minister. The most important thing is that to 37 lakh hectares having an yield of as long as the present Government is 65 thousand kg. per hectare, totaling 24 in power, it should not be forced to take crore 10 lakh tonnes. Similarly, in 1991- measures in this regard because the new 92 the entire area under cultivation was economic policy implemented by it has 38 lakh hectares having an output of already put the country in dire straits and 66,000 kg. per hectare, totaling 24 crore is likely to deteriorate the situation further. 50 lakh tonnes. This is where the economic policy affects. These people Propaganda is being made through are not ready to realise the things in this radio and television that prospects for regard. Despite our repeated requests, farmers in the world market have been we were told that the Government was brightened, and that they would be able reviewing the prospects of export to to export their commodities. Sugarcane ascertain whether to adopt Karagil prices in our country have gone up. Continental Grain or some other Channel Besides, irrigation water and electricity for export. Majority of these people would have also become costlier to them. If be ignorant of the fact that there are only taken as a whole, the sugar prices have six American companies which have increased more than the prices of maintained a monopoly in the world food sugarcane in the open market. This is grains market. In 1991-92 a new economic something separate. But it is surprising policy was introduced. Not even a year that some bureaucrats have been giving 499. Motion for Adjoumment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjoumment 500

[Shri George Fernandes) as on 6th June i.e. today, World sugar market at present is depressed. But I statements through newspapers for the would not like to go into those details. last 10-15 days that sugar could be I am referring to all these points to make imported at such and such rate or that it clear that they hold discussions only some companies had offered to reduce to mislead the country. Therefore, people the rate by 100 dollars from their actual should be cautioned against fishy rate of 400 or four hundred and fifty activities. dollars. All this is being done to create a misconception in the country, sugar I would not go into the details of prices in other countries have gone down why and how the incidents took place, during the last 5-6 years. But the due to which the situation deteriorated to individuals or the private companies which such an extent. But since the hon. are involved in the import and who have Minister is present here, I would like to personal benefits, get the prices increased put some questions to him. I would like one way or the other. to know from him whether his Ministry had furnished a document to the Cabinet 17.00 hrs. on 24th January, indicating that sugar scarcity was likely and therefore, As per the Far East Economic measures for import of sugar should be Review the sugar price, a year ago, was taken immediately. I would also like to 241 dollars per tonne, which increased know whether it is a fact that nobody to 267 dollars per tonne by 6th June this bothered to think in this regard till 9th year. There is a total increase of 26 March. It should also be please clarified dollars per tonne. If we are to import 15 whether any Cabinet Committee has lakh tonnes of sugar, it involves a been constituted and that whether the misappropriation of As. 150 crore, that meeting of that Committee has already too in dollars. This is what has been taken place? Was the matter regarding happening. Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee increase in sugar prices taken up and talked of it just now. The report to this measures suggested in the meeting? We effect was presented in April last year. would like to know as to when the But, the same thing has reoccured this committee took decision to import sugar year also. It should be investigated by and whether the Public Accounts JPC, PAC or any other committee. Committee Aeport of April 1993 was taken into consideration while taking decision in this regard. It is a matter of sugar price. PAC's 45th report was presented on 19th April last year. As per the figures furnished in [English] it, the sugar prices during August 1989, September, 1989 and October, 1989 "The Committee would also varied from 505 dollars per tonne to 396 amphasise that the matter should dollars per tonne. After a gap of six years be thoroughly examined by the we have taken up the matter again in Ministry of Food with a view to the House today when the sugar price devise detailed remedial steps in the world market is 400 dollars, and required to be taken in the matter if OCIF purchases sugar at its own, then of any future imports to be the rate. comes to 267 dollars per tonne undertaken by the Ministry so as 501 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 502

to ensure that such imports are {English] made in the most cost effective and timely manner." "Since, time is the essence of the matter, the Government feels .... [Translation]

When was the policy framed, when [Translation] the document of the policy was published and finally when was it decided that We would like to know-which sugar would be imported not through FCI Govemment is being referred to? Because or any other such agency but only it includes the entire machinery. Even if through State Trading Corporation. When the decision is taken by the concemed such a policy had been framed, why the Ministry the entire Cabinet gets involved other decision was taken by the concemed into it. Ministry. It hardly matters whether the hon. Prime Minister or the Minister of [English] Food is there in Mayor not, the Government as a whole is always there. Many hon. Members are of the opinion Which Govemment and what level that after the first scam JPC was of the Govemment? constituted, but there was nothing appreciable in the report they submitted. [Translation] We would like to know that when neither the hon. Prime Minister nor the hon. Minister of Food had approved the They should not have been floated proposal, on whose orders sugar was and now the Govemment claim that a imported? I would also like to know why special empowered committee ,is being the Government broke the promise they constituted. had made in the Parliament to import sugar only through STC. After all a report [English] of PAC is a parliamentary report and an invariably action taken report thereon should be furnished to the committee. "Since time is the essence of the Why this promise was broken? matter, the Govemment feels that a special Committee of the FCI Board should be empowered to We are surprised on the decision take all final decisions regarding taken regarding invitations of tenders. sugar imports on the tenders, Notice for tender was published on 17th enquiries floated by FC!. This May and the global tenders were expected Committee should consist of to be submitted by 9.30 A.M. on 19th Chairman, FCI, as Chairman, M.D., May, I do agree that everything has been FCI as Financial Advisor to the globalised and fax facilities are available Ministry of Food and Additional . to convey the messages in time and that Secretary, Mi~istry of Food, as is what was done. We do agree to all member." this for a minute. Fax messages were sent, quotations were invited and the order was issued on 18th May by the Thus special Committee is to take concemed Ministry stating: all final decisions. 503 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 504

[Shri George Fernandes] of .higher level, it could be from Prime Minister's office. Nowadays there is a [Translation] new trend - it can well be called an institute or something else - that every There were four officers~ Chairman, work is done in the same PMO. Managing Director, Financial Advisor and •Additional Secretary of STC. [Eng/ish]

[English] PMO wants, PMO desires, PMO commands. ".... To take all final decisions of the Government which will later on be [Translation] reported in due course for ex-post Was any instruction given from the facto approval of the FCI Board." Prime Ministers' office or did the Prime Minister himself order the Commerce So, four people will decide. Secretary? He did not refer to anybody by name, but he did give the indication. "For any of the conditions of tender We also do not want him to refer to any inquiry wherever found necessary of his colleagues or anybody in the and desirable for consideration of Govemment by name. However, it has unsolicited offers outside the tender become clear from the statements of enquiries' etc ... " Commerce Secretary made in public that there was a pressure to transact the deal [Trans/ation] with some private companies. The names of two such companies have been In other words tenders were invited revealed by the newspapers. I need not but at the same time it was also decided make the publicity of their names. You not to bother about them. In case if a might be knowing their names. It is company offers to adjust the sugar prices known to everybody as to who are as required, four persons are there in the associated with those companies. But it Govemment who have been authorised must be revealed in the House today as to take the final decision. We would like to who was the person to exert the to know from the hon. Minister whether pressure. all these decisions were taken by the concerned Ministry, if so, the basis on Our colleague Shri Digheji has which agreements to this effect were rightly stated that it is not a free debate. made with sugar suppliers all over the We have not made it known in the wond. State Trading Corporation comes moming itself that we to criticize the under the'Ministry of Commerce, and we Govemments today and we seek the have read not one but a number of reply of the hon. Minister during discussion statements given by the Commerce today because not only his Ministry but Secretary who alleged publicly that he also the entire Govemment have been was pressurised from higher circles? put in the dock. Who was there at higher level to pressurise the Commerce Secretary? He Sir, I would like to point out one could have been either the Commerce thing more. We were worried about the Minister or the Cabinet Secretary. Did amount of money involved. Sugar is ·they really do so? Since it is a matter consumed one crore tons a year. But the 505 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 506 consumption increased this year. It is of the new economic policy selling of land likely to reach one crare and twenty lakh by the farmers in Maharashtra has been tons. If the price of sugar is raised by allowed by the Legislative Assembly. Ae. one per kilogram arbitraril~ at any One can purchase any area of land and level the people of India will have to pay use it for horticulture. What is this? It is As. one thousand crore on one crore a step towards giving up cultivation of tons of sugar. The wholesale price of foodgrains, sugarcane and taking up to sugar in the market was Rs. 933 per horticulture? The foreigners are qUintal during the month of January, misleading us. The people in the 1993 and now it has reached As. 20 per Government are bent upon leading this kilogram or Rs. 2000 per quintal. This country to ruinition. increase in price took place during the period of 17 months from January, 1993 Mr. Chairman, Sir, I, therefore, to December, 1993 and May, 1994. The request that we should discuss not only consumption of sugar at the rate of 10 the issues as to who made how much lakh tons per month comes to 1 crore money but also the issue as to how can and 50 lakh tons in 15 or 16 months and we deal with the present crisis into which even if the average price rise has been the new economic policy has thrown us. As. 5 per kilogram the people had been Our country has been the largest producer robbed of Rs. 7 or 8 thousands crores. of sugarcane. We will have to discuss The Government now must reveal the as to how can we restore this status of names of middlemen in the deal. the country and what can be its permanent solution. Mr. Chairman, Sir, we are raising this issue today because the situation is With these words, I conclude and worsening too much. Sugar is being urge that the Government should be imported at the rate of $ 400 per tons censured. I urge upon the House to which is made available to people at the admit the Adjournment Motion and the rate of Rs. 12 or Rs. 12.50 per kilogram. Government should be shown its place. If the price is raised by Rs. 2 or As. 2.50 per kilogram, the people will be robbed [English} of Rs. 500 crore to 1000 crore. The new economic policy of the Government has SHAr NrRMAL KANTI brought it to such a past that the tlon. CHATTEAJEE (Dumdum): Mr. Chairman, Minister is now compelled to ask the Sir, let us get the perspective right. We traders to sell sugar at the rate of are discussing the problem, not of the As. 14.50 per kilogram and not at Rs. whole of our popUlation; at least 50 per 15.50 per kilogram. But who will listen cent of our countrymen do not take to him? The Hon. Minister should raise sugar. Those who are below the poverty this question before the hon. Prime line and those who are around the Minister or the han. Minister of Finance poverty line, are not affected by any rise who have introduced this new economic in the price ot sugar. policy in the country and are bent upon selling it out. It dire consequences will Now I mention this also to highlight have to be faced and the present crisis this fact that potentially whatever amount is just a beginning. Tomorrow the same of sugar we are producing in the course thing will be repeated with regard to of the last few years is being short foodgrains and other items. In the light supplied. Whatever we may be producing, 507 Motion tor AdJOumment

lShri Nirma/ Kant; Chatte~ee} Min/stl}' appear&d to be an obItacle according to some version 01 some even this year, we say that we have a Ministers? Because, the Finance Minister surplus of sugar production. We forget had promised somewhere else that he that 50 per cent at" our population do not was trying to reduce subsidies as a part have that amount of purchasing power of the new economic policy. This whole which will permit them to buy sugar. If question of subsidy is a part of the new you try to improve their condition, then economic policy. Therefore, some whatever we consider to be our surplus Ministers utilised this or may be, they are will no longer remain so. afraid of this; that without subsidy whether or not or will it be possible to have import Add to this, that in the course of intervention of sugar? this year, or this year's sugar season, as my han. friend Shri George Fernandes The new economic policy, combined has indicated, the acreage of sugarcane with that our agreement on GATT is anti- was coming down over the last two or agriculture and pro-industry. Let us three years. The stock of sugar also was analyse, let us see this. coming down in the course of the last three years. And the production of sugar In the statement of the Food also was coming down in the course of Minister his reaction to this whole problem the last three years. Yet, no decision is given. could be taken unless or until very late about intervention through imports in the He forgets the cane growers. He sugar market in our country. This needs says that he is giving more licences to some explanation. I think he has very sugar factories and his emphasis is on correctly pointed out the major sources the industrial sector. That is exactly what of our problem. As if in a flash, the whole follows from the New Economic POlicy- episode conncected with sugar indicates neglect of our farmers, neglect of our two things: One is that the entire new agriculture and trying to get things done economic policy in all its aspects will lead via the route of industry. The to this kind of problem and ruination of consequences ... (Interruptions) the people of our country. He has made an estimate of about Rs. 6000 to 7000 SHRI A. CHARLES (Trivandrum): crore about the loot. Loot has two Can I put one question? directions. Somebody has benefited. Somebody else has paid. SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE; You can put your question I was privately estimating that it later on. Let me carry on with my may be around Rs. 5000 to 6000 crore. speech. Anyway, this Rs. 5000 crore has been sacrificed by 50 per cent of our population This approach is also a part of that in favour of a few. Some persons are approach, which is associated with benefited. Fifty per cent of our population encouraging the industrial sector and have lost this Rs. 5000 crore. discouraging the agricultural sector.

Is this the new economic policy? Then, let us look at the hesitation This is the new economic policy! Let us for imports. Look at the problem of analyse. Why is it that the Finance intervention within the economy. We 509 Mot;on for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjoummenf 51(J

have been told by the GA TT the perpetrators of the policy are of the understanding, we have been told by the same mode and are equally guilty International Monetary Fund and others, and none is fit to rule the country any that in terms of our Budget stabilisation, more. our fiscal deficit, etc., we cannot do certain things in the economy. And exactly Sir, it is said that the approach was as the Finance Minister did with his New Economic Policy. Very bravely our Budget figures, our Food Minister does Minister comes here and says, "We are with his food figures, with his sugar not going to import anything in the public figures. As we have discovered in the sector. Under New Economic Policy, we course of our Budget discussion, the cannot emphasise the public sector. figures of the Finance Ministry were all Therefore, OGL is being granted to fudged, they suppressed the figures of private sector." expenditure, and in glowing terms they presented the ligures of revenue We asked him this question. He collection. Exactly in the same mode, the said, 'No'. There is no public sector Food Minister says that we are producing import. We are granting open general very nearly what we have produced last licence and allowing the private sector. year. Despite the fact that all indications- This unlimited faith in the private sector the acreage was less, the content of has been generated in us by the World isugarcane was less than in the past so bank and IMF. He is not directly that extraction of sugar will be less than concerned with them. He has been tutored in the past-were there, he was continuing by perhaps Shri Manmohan Singh and to bluff the economy by also saying, by others. Therefore, he says that even adding that, as has been mentioned, we when we have to import, hand it over have unnecessarily low prices of sugar. to the private sector, the private sector Remember that 50 per cent of our in the meantime was behaving in a population cannot buy sugar at that price. particular manner within the economy. To He comes out in a bravado saying that the extent imports are delayed the prices our prices of sugar are too low compared are rising. To the extent there is no to our globalised international markets. assurance that there will be import Whatever he has learf!t or picked up intervention in abundance, the private from his elder, the Cabinet Minister of sector failed in the market. If the supply the Finance Ministry, he is trying to is less because of existing level of disgorge before the people of this country. demand, the prices have to rise. The When all indications were there that touching belief in the market economy there would be a shortage of about two and the Ecomomic Policy is reflected in million tonnes, he was bravely saying the package. Let the private sector bring that there is no need to Import because whatever they can at whatever price they the Finance Ministry does not like it. can. There will be no subsidy. Whatever Despite all his claims about accumulation the price level, on the basis of that of reserves, all his claims about supply, the people have to pay .. The're accumulation of foreign exchange, his is nothing to complain because our prices private advice is not to spend them on are v'ery low. This is the kind of argument, import. And then what happens? this is the kind 01 psychological mindset that they have. That is what has led to Let us try to understand and let us this debacle. Look at the movements of try to find out how both the policy and different sectors within the Government. 511 Motion for Adjoumment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjoumment 512

IShri Nirmal Kanti Chatte~eel They were raising the prices because despite this shortage within our country, The Food Corporation of India should not we are perhaps the biggest or the largest import. Why? It is because the Public producer of sugar in the world. Any shortfall Accounts Committee had. said so. I was in our country generates a pressure in the the Member of the Public Acounts intemational market and since the believers Committee when Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee in the market forces refuse to see this, was the Chairman. He also remembers those who control those who have it. Therefore, he uses that as a tool. Why monopoly in the market, are free to often some of the Action Taken Reports manipulate the prices according to their of the Government say that we are not sweet will. That is the law of economics agreeable? In order to justify non- that monopoly prices prosper on the basis intervention and non-import, we are told of shortage of supply. And; Sir, they have that an Action Taken Report has been shared in the loot. I am sure, one of the sent in February "s year whereby they most wonderful things as reported in the say that they accept that the Food Press-I want the Minister to deny-is that Corporation of India should not import. global tenders this time were called in terms Now, if this Action Taken Report says of rupee. And the story is-he does not that we should not import, then another know or may be because he is a part of wing of the Government, the Commerce the Govemment, he also knows-thatthere Ministry, says that we should import. is over-involving on the high seas. Already That was the recommendation. Have we which are contracted on the high seas, they drawn the attention of the Cabinet to the changed hands. When the public sector are fact import is a must in order to save forced, because of the cry among the public the population of our country from a loot and the people, to enter into the purchase of Rs. 5000 or 6000 crores? And if we of sugar, they are purchasing it at the high are prevented by the Public Accounts seas. No foreign exchange is involved. And Committee then let the Cabinet order the whatever the international prices, we do STC and the MMTC to import as quickly not know. We know the story of over- as possible. Now, this is what has not involving. In this process itself, foreign been done. I agree with the earlier exchange will be accumulated outside. But statement of Shri George Fernandes that Rs. 5,000 to Rs. 6,000 crore of loot is the it is not a matter of one Ministry, it is inside our country. That is the inside story. the entire Government, its entire That also is going to be shared with the Policy-the liberalised Economic foreign muHinationals. The Indian segment Policy-which depends on the market, of the traders and producers in collusion which allows the law of supply and with the political part of the Government, demand to have its full play, which have shared the loot. This is a bigger promises to others and prevents giving scandal than the scandal of the Bofors. It subsidy to any necessary item of intake is a bigger scandal qualitatively then the of the population. Therefore, what has scandal that the JPC was trying to unfold, happened? I do not know who have which was called a scam, because one shared. There is a statement that leakage single commodity generated a profit of of this. information has led to enhancement Rs. 5,000 crore. Qualitatively, the of prices in the international sugar significance of1his sugar episode is exactly cartel-lSMA or RSA (Refined Sugar as in the case of that scam, we know. That AsSOCiation of London) or International was related to the 1991 July declaration of Sugar Marketing Association. the New Economic Policy. Similarly, today 513 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 514

we are seeing the working out of this New political arm of the Minister, what was the Economic Policy on a commodity, despite directive from the PMO. This pinpointing the fact that fifty per cent of the population has to be done. I am sure that whatever cannot consume. Nevertheless, the rest of the reply is, it will not be satisfactory the fifty per cent of the population is because many more details have to be suffering from the impact of the same uneartherd. Many a link has to be policy. Therefore, the first question that has discovered and to discover all such links, to be answered is: where has this Rs. 5,000 that, perhaps, requires another probe by crore gone? We have to find out whether a Committee of the House. This is it has gone to the industrialists, the traders inescapable and therefore, I did not or their political masters. The question is desire that the new economic policy . not merely that you have connived. I am should be changed thoroughly saying on the basis of my experience in immediately, at least on the basis of this the Joint Parliamentary Committee that experience including the approximation there is a share in the loot also. I do not of the Patents Act. Including that all the know how may suit cases are involved. But things have to be changed, failing which it is nOllTlal to anticiapte that Rs. 5,000 crore the Government should resign. They is not a small sum. It is normal to expect have to own the responsibility for this that when such things happen, that also scandal and if the Government wants to happens. And they have to answer where wait till the findings of the new Committee, this 5,000 crores at rupees have gone. let the Committee be established here Secondly, we have to pin down and now. responsibilities about what is being criticised as pure and simple bungling-from the [Translation] Cabinet Secretary, the Food Secretary, the FCI and the PM's Office. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL (Sangali): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the In the JPC report also which we have Adjoumment Motion brought in the august brought out, there was a note of dissent House. But I would also like to point out and many questions remained that merely the Opposition of the motion unanswered. We do not want to have these will not absolve us of our duties. Every questions unanswered in this case. I have aspect of the problem that has cropped a letter with me. I do not want to read it up should be discussed here and we out. He says that he has offered sugar at should have a deep study into the a particular price which would have saved problem. all this amount of money and the prices could have come down. He says that he has written such a letter to the Food Ministry First of all we have to see that the also. If they deny, I will produce that letter. production of sugar in 1991 was 1341akh tons which was the largest in the world. Thereafter, the production was reduced 17.41 hrs. to 106 lakh tons in 1992-93. We should investigate the reasons behind this steep [MR. SPEAKER in the Chairj fall. We must discuss the factors responsible therefore deeply. Could we Sir, therefore one has to find out, not provide remunerative price to the under the verbiage of PAC, under the sugarcane growers which prompted them verbiage of' some bureaucrat or the to switch over to oil seed production and 515 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 516

[Shri Prakash V. Patil] have suffered the loss of As. 400 crore due to the export. In such a situation we which resulted in the decline of sugar want to sell some quantity of sugar out production. of the remaining stock with us. It will fetch us higher price. But even this would not compensate the loss completely. When the new Government came into power, it announced a new policy to decontrol molasses under the leadership This year our production of sugar of Shri Kalp Nath Aai. This has created has been 32 lakh tonnes more than such a situation today that it has become previous year. We are going to store it. doubtful whether we will be able to give When the Government does not have the stipulated remunarative prices to the sugar for re-sale and levy then how can sugarcane growers or not. Thereafter, in it release more quantity of sugar in the order to raise the production of sugar, release mechanism. Moreover, there is the Government started giving some no likelihood of getting higher prices for concessions to the sugarcane growers the outstanding sugar meant for re-sale. which brought about prospects for the But we have imported 4 lakh tonnes of increase in the production of sugarcane. re-sale sugar through national sugar But the production of sugar fell steeply factories federation. Out of which 2 lakh in the year 1992-93 to 98 lakh tons only. tonnes of sugar has arrived and we are going to give it to the Government at the Now we are endeavouring to raise rate of As. 13 per kilogram for the Public the production of sugar to the tune of Distribution System. Moreover we are 110 !akh tons and we are proceeding in ready to supply 2.5 lakh tonnes of sugar this direction, but the sugarcane producers to compensate the shortfall in levy sugar. This has already been approved by the in Uttar Pradesh and other States opted Government. If the import takes place, to go for the production of jaggery (gur) every kind of shortfall will be made up and khandsari which resulted in the fall because the import is being made in in the sugar production. large quantity.

Keeping in view the production in 1991-92 and 1992-93 nobody bothe~ed The present prices of the sugar are to fix the prices of sugarcane. What is fluctuating between 235 and 400 dollars. If the . present rate? 50 per cent of sugar the sugar is supplied at 235 dollars then it is stocked throughout the year. Due to is not devaluation. Shri George Fernandes the stock we have suffered the loss of has rightly stated that the price of sugar is the As. 300 crore on account of interest upto 400 dollars. The production of sugar alone. Whenever there is bumper in our country starts in the months of production sugar is supplied in large November and December. But its quantity for the Public Distribution System. production starts in the month of July in Previously this quota was 50 per cent, Brazil. Sugar purchased in the month of but now. it has been made 40 per cent. July will be cheaper. At present the Previously the loss was four rupees per shortage of sugar in the market is to the kilogram but now this has become five tune of., 0 lakh tonnes. Therefore, release rupees per kilogram. We should think mechanism should be changed over the price of the sugar sold in the accordingly. We have pointed out through market·aIso. Sugar is exported also. We the sugar federation that we win sell the 517 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 518 imported sugar at not more than As. 14.50 in a spectacular debacle with sugar per kilogram. Even atter the imposition of prices showing signs of spinning out of Govemment taxes we will sell sugar at not control. The current sugar crisis almost higher than As. 15.50 per Kg. We are ready perfectly mirrors the sugar controversy to make such promise now. If the sugar is which rocked the nation way back in imported in the month of July then it will be 1989. The drama today reads identical cheaper. The sugar imported from Brazil to the one enacted half a decade ago. is not sweet up to the mark because hybrid granules are not formed in it and it is mostly In 1989, the prices of sugar had used for manufacturing sugar products. sky-rocked from As. 6.50 to As. 9/- per kg. in a mailer of mere two months and Today there is shortage of 1.7 million then zoomed to As. 12 by September of tonnes of sugar in the international market. the same year. The buck was passed on Therefore, the price of the sugar will be from one Ministry.to the other and from higher if we import sugar. Sugar should be one bureaucrat to the other. Ironically, imported in large quantity only after the new the situation is no differenHoday when crop. The Government should not misuse imports were first mooted in November its funds. last year, the price was 280 US dollars per tonne but due to inordinate delays, the country is paying 360 US dollars per Since we are facing sugar crisis, tonne. The losses this time are expected people belonging to the backward classes to be almost double the 1989 figures. should be made sugar available through the Public Distribution System. Even in such a situation sugar may be made available The 1989 scandal contributed in at the rate of As. 12 per kg. The sugar the debacle of the Aajiv Gandhi industry has suffered a loss of Government at the hustings. This year's As. 700 crore. It has suffered a loss of controversy between the Cabinet As. 400 crore through the export. We must Secretariat and the Food Ministry, on the evolve a system that may enable us to one side and, the Commerce Ministry, on the other, has centred around the floating produce maximum quantity of sugar and farmers should be given remunerative of FCI tender. The Public Accounts prices. Once it happened that the sugar Committee after a thorough investigation industry decided to export 12 lakh tons of had indicated the Government for the scandal. The PAC plans to initiate an sugar. Something can certainly be done if enquiry this time as well. it is thought comprehensively. The policy formulated by the Government will raise the production of sugar in the coming years. The most significant aspect of the It takes one or one and a half years to grow sugar crisis is the deliberate stalling of sugarcane. Thereafter, we hope, this imports even after it became evident that problem will be solved. the shortfall of eight lakh tonnes in domestic production could not be met otherwise. I do not know why the (English] Government has not taken any steps to import when officials in the Ministry SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN under1ined the need for it as early as (Gobichettipalayam): Mr. Speaker, Sir, November, 1993. The role played by the the Centre's new sugar policy has ended Commerce Minister, Mr. Pranab 519 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion.for Adjournment 520

[Shri P.G. Narayanan) slated to go up further, especially in the States where elections are being held Mukhe~ee who never bothered to arrange this year. It is common konwledge that the imports through the STC and MMTC whenever elections are held, prices of despiie the directives of the Cabinet essential goods, including sugar, go up Committee on prices given on March 9 steeply as the contributions made for the and April 12 and the Prime Minister's election funds have to be recouped by intervention on April 18, is also surprising. the industry and trade. So, while this may be partly true, it is exactly because of Had the Government cared to listen this factor and the consequent spiral in to the impassioned plea of the Food sugar prices that the Government had Secretary or even the Civil Supplies announced on March 15 its decision to Minister that there was no escape from allow imports of sugar on Open General imports, the exchequer could have saved Licensing but took more than a month Rs. 225 crore as the price obtaining in to notify the decision. The Government November, 1993. not only delayed the implementation of the import decision but also apparently helped the price rise. In the bargain, the consumer is forced to shell out rupees eight per kg. more than the price prevailing last However, the situation can still be December. The.price of sugar has been retrieved to some extent if the rising for the past several months. It is Government is really concerned about clear that the Government has proved the difficulties experienced by the common itself incapable of managing the sugar man because of the runaway rise in crisis. In a word, I think, the reason is sugar prices. At the same time, the inefficiency. The decision to arrest sugar Government should get out of announcing prices has been taken at the higher level free-sale quota every month. It is this of the Government. The Prime Minister mechanism which has proved to be the has given a direction and there are all culprit for the present unwarranted sorts of mechanisms like the STC and increase in sugar prices. When the the MMTC, the two institutions with Government has permitted Open General considerable experience, but all the repute Licence imports of sugar and adopted an is misplaced and the experience largely aggressive liberalisation programme, it useless. There is just no explanation tor has no business to meddle with free-sale the illogical step of the Government. quotas once it has taken care of the However, the situation can still be weaker sections' needs through the levy retrieved to some extent if the sugar for the Public Distribution System. Government is really concerned about Will any inquiry fix the responsibility for the difficulties experienced by the common all these omissions? man. So, the Government has failed to safeguard the interest of the common Needless to say, if the sugar market man in the country. is allowed to function freely and so long as the buffer stock machinery is operated Sir, if anybody thinks that sugar efficiently to discipline the market, one prices have reached their zenith and can expect that sugar prices will come would not Ase further, he must be living down to a realistic level in due course. in a fool's paradise because prices are The sugar industry is the only industry 521 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 522 which is making huge profit which is the common people very adversely ... unaccounted thereby creating a lot of (Interruptions) Now, now let me speak blackmoney. Because of this ~develop· here and do not interrupt me. So much ment, there is underhand dealing by the propaganda has been made about this Government officials. First, this has to be scandal that the Government employees rectified. Otherwise, we cannot check the or the common people or unemployed rising price of sugar. youth all have started believing that there has been a great scandal. Sir, this issue is a serious one which affects the common man. There SHRI DILEEP BHAI JANGHANI is definitely a 101 of bungling on the part (Amreli); Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is 6 p.m. of the Government in this ragard. So, I and the time of the sitting of the House demand a Ihorough enquiry by a has not been extended as yet how can Parliamentary Committee to go into the its proceedings continue? whole episode. [English} MR. SPEAKER: Next, I call Shri Surya Narayan Yadav to speak. If you MR. SPEAKER: I think we should want to speak, you can. If you do not dispose of this matter today. want to speak, we are not going to compel you. [Translation]

[Translation] SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV It is a very important issue. Please admit it for tomorrow. (Saharsa): Mr. Speaker, Sir, just now I was hearing the speech of the leader of the OppOSition Shri Alai Bihari Vajpayee. MR. SPEAKER: We therefore, Why this Adjournment Motion has been should sil longer. introduced here? SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV: 18.00 hrs. Lok Sabha is country's supreme body which is responsible for enacting and This discussion is on the topic of implementation of laws. This 'Scam' has sugar and it is being alleged that there been discussed here so much that it has is a sugar scandal. .. (Interruptions) Please affected the Government employees and try to understand you: own version. the common people of this country very Whenever I refer to Shri George adversely. By tarnishing the image of the Fernandes or Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee, country, where do they want to lead the why do you make an uproar? I am not country? hurling abuses on Shri Vajpayeeji, I am rather appreciating him. Sir. Whenever I I would like to ask you one question. lend my ears to Shri Vajpayee and Shri Shri Vajpayee was speaking just now. Fernandes, I start believing that there is When your Government came in power a scandal. The people of the country there was shortage of onion. The understand that certain scandal is taking Opposition was making scathing comment place there and it affect the psyche of at that time. Was there no price hike at 523 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 524

[Shri Surya Narayan Yadavl have spoken. The law making body must know the accurate facts of laws. Shri that time? Was that time not the scam George Fernandes is a leamed person. of mustard oil? Was there not onion He does not lack in knowledge. But I scam that time? Does scandal means a would like to claim that Shri George wholesale mess? I am not cutting any Fernandes is not a farmer at all. Had he joke. When Shri George Femandes starts been a farmer he would not have criticised speaking, he immediately switches over the policy of economic liberalisation and to the policy of liberalisation. While deprived the farmers of their benefits. speaking on sugar he talks of the policy The example of Maharashtra was given of economic liberalisation. Shri Chatterjee just now ... (lnterruptions) ... Please listen was speaking just now that sugar has to me. Please give me a chance. He become costly because farmers have referred to Maharashtra and suggested been issued excess licences. to grow fruits, vegetables, paddy and wheat which will not be of any advantage You are not a farmer. But I am. to farmers. He implies to prevent the know how much licences should be cultivation of mustard, tobacco, sugarcane etc. I want to submit that today farmers given to farmers ... (lnterruptions) Please listen to me ... You are not a farmer. Had will have to be made self-dependent and you been a farmer, your speech must not successful. I think there have been some have been anti-farmers. I was hearing his lapses on the part of the Government. speech with rapt attention. He did say Had the Government remained vigilent that the shortage of sugar was due to during February-March there would not issuing licence to sugar growing farmers. have been the shortage of sugar. The But he did not ask to provide licences Government are responsible for it. It to farmers for growing sugarcane. He did would not be justified to call everybody not ask to increase the cultivation of a black marketeer, criminal or dacoit. sugarcane and make the farmers self- Please tell me who is human being. It relient. It is suggested to import sugar. cannot be called humanity if one acts in But I would like to state that had the a different way. Thus a human being may farmers grown sugarcane in more quantity remain so and we should try to highlight in the country, there would have been the truth. We Will, too cooperate with you in this matter. no sugar crisis. Shri Vajpayee was stating that... Without taking much time, as the bell is ringing I would like to submit that [English] all of us irrespective of the Opposition or ruling party should unitedly make MR SPEAKER: You have made a arrangements to provide relief to the very good new point in regard to people of the country. protecting the agriculturalists. Now, please give chances to others also to suggest SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR other points. (Ballia): Mr. Speaker, Sir, though I did not want to speak on the subject but the [Translation] members who spoke earlier have Inspired me to speak something on this subject. SHAI SUAYA NARAYAN YADAV: That is why the level at which we are I am talking different from what other holding discussion on such a serious 525 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 526 matter cannot be termed as injustice to the Ministry of Law, Justice and Company the subject. Shri George Femandes had Affairs. Had he tried to speak the truth raised some fundamental issues and he would have been sitting with us. Shri ' sought reply from the Minister of Food. Kumaramangalamji, this apprehension I do not know whether the Minister of troubles the people. Perhaps, Shri Food would be able to reply. I know him Kalpnathji is also terrified with the same for a long time. But known faces seem fear. It has been said that the Minister to be unknown today. Because they are of Commerce has not done anything. If not principled persons as their the Minister of Commerce asks the predecessors. The pople do not hesitate Minister of Finance, he is ready to in avoiding truth. I do not agree with Shri sanction it. This news has been regularly George that it is not possible to believe appearing in the Press, that nobody talks all the officials in bureaucracy. After all about Government files. Who will reply we have to run the Government and the to it? Will it be replied by Shri Kalpnathji, country too is run by them. These people Pranab Mukherjee or the Minister of belong to our country. I do not possess Finance or my friend Shri Aaoji, who is much experience. With a little experience sitting at the helm of affairs. Of these, whatever I have, I can say that if most one will have to answ'er. Every of the people who think about the welfare Department has become inactive as of the country are given proper directives restructions in any way are imposed on they would have taken proper steps. In them. These restrictions are no~ imposed the matter of sugar I would like to raise due to our intemal compulsions. As Shri one question and want to know from the George has rightly said that we have Government whether directives are issued imposed restrictions because the in time. If so, whether their proper Government have made some promises impelementation has been carried out? and given assurances to some people I know it. It is a fact that the Govemment and it cannot go beyond that limit. Our was aware about the less production of people are facing starvation and sugar sugarcane. It was not a secret matter. is being sold at higher rate, but we The entire world was aware of it. The cannot make import because we cannot Ministry of Food knew it. My friend, Shri spend foreign exchange. We cannot Mukherjee knew it. It was mentioned in enhance our Budget. These type of the Public Accounts Committee report things are developing in our country. that the Food Corporation of India must import sugar at any cost. But the condition Just now, the Minister of Agriculture was that it should be imported through has left the House. As my friend Shri Surya STC or MMTC. Tt:e Ministry of Food had Narayan was saying rightly that the given an assurance to the Public Accounts agriculture policy has been a success. Shri Committee to implement this George has said that nowadays sugar- recommendation in toto. Afterwards, it cane is being sown comparatively on lesser was not possible for them to import area in Maharashtra. Grapes are being sugar. exported .. We should congratulate the people of Maharashtra. I feel happy to see Sir, today it is very easy to level that grapes, 'Kinnu' and guava will be allegations against Shri Kalpnath. Just exported in the world market. In this way, now one of my hon. friends was sitting we will eam foreign exchange. But it will here. At present he is not availabe. result in non-availability of sugar to the Earlier he was the Minister 0' State in people. These two things are inter-linked. 527 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 528

[Shri Chandra Shekharj Commerce cannot import sugar. P.A.C. has issued directives that the Minister of While discussing GATT agreement had Food cannot import sugar and it is said pointed out to the Mini$ter of Food about that the sugar should be imported through his wrong policies. Scheme of agricultural O.G.L. When an industrialist imports production for the purpose of export is being sugar, he imports it to earn profit and formulated for the first time in our country. not to reduce the price of sugar and This scheme was first introduced in African facilitate its supply to poor and thus does countries 20-25 years ago in which food not help the Government. production was neglected and production of coffee and cocoa was encouraged. They Just now, my colleague was making earned a lot of money for 12 years. The deliberations. Perhaps he is associated people who were owing these industries with the sugar industry. were happy. But one day they ruined this industry. All industries were closed. Big farms now do not exist. Today African AN HON. MEMBER: He is countries are facing starvation. Small Chairman. countries cannot depend on other countries in the matter of food, sugar, wheat, rice SHRI HARI KISHOAE SINGH: He and grams. Our country is a big country. is the son of late Shri Vasant Dada Patil. It cannot depend on other countries. Not only I am saying these words but the people SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: who believe in 'Swedeshi' and self-reliance Pardon me. He is son of a person for had advocated this concept since whom Lhave a great respect. Today, Shri independence days. I feel happy to listen Vas ant Dada Patil would have thought it the speech of the Prime Minister delivered ten times as to why the sugar is being in the session of All India Congrpss sold in the market at the rate of Rs. 1B- Committee in which he declares that our 20 per kilo instead of As. 10-12 per kilo. country favours Swadeshi, self-reliance Would the Government conduct an inquiry conscious and believes in Gandhism. into it? Would somebody be held Gandhiji had taken a dream to see the responsible for it? Are sugarmill owners village self-reliant. We feel ashamed in ready to take the responsibility? The making the country self-reliant and declares Minister of Food should ponder over it. this Government as Gandhian Government. We pronounce the policies of Gandhiji. This is the basic concept of Suddenly what happens? Prime our country. Minister goes an a foreign trip. The Minister of Food visits his constituency. Three Government officials whose names, Why should the farmers of I would not like to mention take a Maharashtra sow sugarcane, when they unanimous decision to import sugar worth get less remunerative price? They should As. 400 crore. Why? Who has authorised sow grapes, to have more benefit, them to do so? Nobody knows it. Just although the Government may spend now Shri George was saying that global more to import sugar. tenders are invited on a day's notiCe. On the second day, they had tried to cancel The Minister of Finance creates the tender on 8 hours' notice. When the hurdles and says that the Minister of Minister of Food arrives in Delhi he is 529 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 530 infonned that directive had been issued these officers will sell out the country and by the Prime Minister's Office. When the we will not be able to know about it. It Minister of Food desired to record it on is not a simple matter. T1ii:ifis why I am the file, it was not carried out. The same compelled to speak. Do not take the very officer had given an assurance that debate as merely a loss of Rs. 4000 or directive issued by PAC headed by Atal 5000 crores. I do not want to go into who Bihari Vajpayee would be implemented. the culprit was or what was the amount When he was asked why he had done of bribe. The question is whether we are so despite the fact that he had given the running a civilized adrninisfiiii6n' or _ assurance in writing, then the file was democracy? In a parliamentary removed from the Ministry of Food and democracy the Cabinet members may subsequently found in PAC. have difference of opinion. The Government will have to decide and assign the responsibility who had Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to ask authorised the officials for inviting global whether it is the way to run the country? tender without informing any Minister. Only by abusing Ministers or some other How does the P.M.D. come in between people will not yield any result. Until the the two? The Prime Minister, the Minister file is recovered from the PAC, the of Commerce and the Minister of Finance P.M.O. cannot contradict in the matter were not aware of the tact. The Minister and declare that the Ministry of Food has of Food too was not aware of this committed a mistake. Constantly for seven decision. I know it as he has already days there had been press reports in the given his statement. Later on they backed national and international media that the out from their statements, Secondly, the Minister of Food had violated the orders Secretary had issued a statement against of the Prime Minister. But the P.M.O. had the Minister. A senior officer of 'the not acted. When it is known that the Ministry of Commerce had said' that a Ministry of Food had given an assurance high official had pressurised him many in writing to the P .A.C. through the same times on phones, to import from such official, then the statement is issued that companies which are not even registered. there is no difference of opinion, between At! these. things are happening. Through the Ministry of Food and the P.M.O. I you I would like to urge upon my do not know the view point of the Minister Congress friends not to make it a party of Food. I also do not know whether the issue. Do not give political colour to every Prime Minister is aware of the matter or issue. I know it that you will defeat this not. But the P.M.O. is functioning in a motion. I know that you will get the very different way. Press reported that majority. You have seen that the people the officials take decision themselves. In of the country had rejected you and us a Cabinet form of Government, it is the also twice even after having majority. first time that the decision is taken by What will happen if all the people are an official without the knowledge of the rejected in politics. The politicians will be concerned Minister on the plea of disheartened. What will happen to the directives received from the P.M.O. When country? You will have to ponder over the officers were asked to record it in this problem. the file, they refused. I am not concerned about whether the sugar is sold at Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have to pay Rs. 5/· or Rs. 5000/· per kg. But these a little attention as the P.A.C. functions tendencies are dangerous and one day as per your directive. Is it an ordinary 531 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 532

IShri Chandra Shekharj for the entire nation. Therefore, I would like to request to take up the matter thing that the assurances given to the seriously. If you are able to issue PAC. have been disappeared from the directives to these officials in the right files of. Ministry of Food? It should be perspective, it would benefit a lot. observed from this angle that the economic policies will playa pivotal role. [English] In the world, nobody will help us in making us prosperous and wealthy. Shri Pranabji has been with us since 1962. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO He is one of myoid friends. We have (Bapatla); Speaker, Sir, we all know that intensively worked together to revive the sugar tastes sweet, but it is very unfortunate that in our country it tastes economic policies of that time for years. One day I had said that he has become sweet for only a few traders, industrilists, the citizen of the world whereas I remained politicians and a few bureaucrats. For a an Indian. I surprise to see Shri Pranabji. common man it tastes bitter. Sir, you I know Shri Kalpnathji since his student may please see the price of sugar in the life. He was happy with the socialist last three-four months. There is a great movement and even today he is in high variation. In December 1993, the price spirits while talking. But I don't know why of sugar was Rs. 1260 per quintal. In the he is keeping mum? Why did not he month of February, it was Rs. 1305 per speak today? If! the portfolio of the qunital. It was Rs. 1400 per quintal in Minister is too important, to obscene self the month of April and in May it was Rs. 1650 per quintal. This variation in the restraint. The man who has no idea of decorum, the dignity of the country cannot price of sugar has in tum affected the be safe in his hands. I am not demanding common man heavily and we are very much concemed over this price hike. I his resignation. There is no need to tender resignation. Fortunately hon. Shri do not know whether it was due to the Arjun Singh has come. I would request fault of the Commerce Ministry, Food Ministry, Cabinet Secretary, Deputy him. ·A~unasya Pratigya Dwai, Na-Cha Dainyam Na Playanam." Do not be Secretary or the Government as a whole. humble and renounce the world. I am not All these people are trying to blame each asking to protest it in the House but you other for this kind of mismanagement can resist it at least in the Cabinet. This and for the Government's inability to matter should be examined. How will the control the sugar price. We really wonder inquiry be conducted? Personally, I am whether this Government is interested in not against any person, I have nothing protecting the common man's interest or to do in the matter. But it pains me when they are just interested in quarrelling I see that the entire dignity of the country among themselves! and the parliamentary democracy is being tarnished and high officials are fighting According to me this hike in price is each other and disgracing bureaucracy. due to the utmost delay in taking decisions These people are running our on the part of the Government as a result administration. It may not be so as we of which the prices in the international are compelled to form our opinion about mari

[Shri Bhogendra Jha] has been delay in the import of sugar. We should find out who is responsible not even a producer or consumer, for not issuing the order for import. becomes rich by looting the farmers. Does the Government has any such Sir, I would like to draw the attention device as can ensure recovery from of the House towards this point that at these plunderers? The hon. Finance present, there is no scarcity of sugar in Minister has a number of ways to adjust the country and if there is shortage of unearned income or money but does not sugar in the market or the prices of sugar he have any justification how the amount have increased, the Ministry of Food is of Rs. 5 crore or Rs. 6 crore was solely responsible for that. In the plundered just in two months? However, beginning of this year, the pending balance it was a serious bungling. The news has of sugar in the country was 31 .13 lakh appeared in the newspapers that recently tonnes. The production so far is to the a meeting of the ruling party was held tune of 93 lakh tonnes. Now, the total in which they had claimed that they comes out to 124.13 lakh tonnes. would adopt the new food policy in a However, till September, another 4 lakh balanced manner i.e. they would let the tonnes will be added. In this way, the cat drink the milk but simultaneously, total stock of sugar will reach upto they will keep a watch over it. I would 128.13 lakh tonnes. Whereas, the like to say that in this case, they should consumption of sugar during the last year come out with 3 proof that what type of was 120 lakh tonnes, this year the checks they are exercising and what is consumption in the open market is likely the way out to recover the above amount to be 115 lakh tonnes. Thus, we will still of Rs. 5 or Rs. 6 crores? Further, they be . left with 13 lakh tonnes sugar. They should also let us know about the would again say that despite this much assurance which they propose to give to of stock, why are the prices rising? the farmers and consumers of this country so that there is no recurrence of such a lapse. I would like to inform you that a sugar lobby is operating in the country Sir, not speaking much on this in which big sugar mill owners and a few subject, I support the Adjournment Motion big traders of the Government are also moved by our friend, Shri Ramshray involved in it. The common traders are Prasad Singh. As this motion has been not involved in it and hence, they are not introduced unanimously, I think this time getting any benefits out of it. It is on the they have shown their weakness also. wishes of these close traders of the Now, they should not oppose its during Government that the prices have been the voting. Whosoever is responsible tor raised. it, he should punished and brought before the people or the House. I would like to speak on one more point that as per the 1991 census, the SHRI SHYAM BIHARI MISRA total requirement of sugar in the open (Bilhaur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, at present the market was about 6 to 6.50 lakh tonnes prices of sugar have reached at their per month. But the Ministry cif Food zenith. We have been debating over this supplies sugar in less quantity every issue for a ·'ong time and everytime it month because the Ministry has become centred around only one point that there a tool in the hands of the sugar lobby. 541 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 542

Now, they are not able to come out of practice that if the prices of sugar rise, it. the prices of molasses will also rise. Fifty per cent of this price-rise will either go In the meeting of the. Consultative to the farmers or the consumers. When committee, I had cautioned the Food molasses was decontrolled and it was Secretary as well as the Hon. Minister sold at the rates varying from Rs. 20 per of Food, but no attention was paid to it. quintal to Rs. 100 per quintal, had its 50 Recently, on my request, a meeting was per cent share gone to the farmers or called on 10th May in which I had stated the consumers? I had raised this point that the prices of sugar are rising and in the meeting but no attention was paid they have not been able to control it. In to it. Why did the prices rise? The the other meeting called by the hon. demand of sugar in the open market was Minister, the traders as well as the mill 6.25 lakh tonnes but in January only 5.75 owners were also invited. lakh tonnes was released. In February, 5.651akh tonnes, in March, 61akh lonnes and in April, 5.45 lakh tonnes sugar was I would like to request the hon. released. At that time, the price of sugar Food Minister to reply to this point that was As. 12 per Kg. When Ihe supply was whether due to release of less quota curtailed, the prices rose upto Rs. 13 per during the month of May, has the prices Kg. In May, sugar lobby made a strategic not increased? The prices have increased move as a result thereof only 4.90 lakh due to the policy adopted by the lonnes sugar was released, and the Government to release sugar in the open prices shot by As. 2.50 per Kg. It is market. This policy could not be controlled evident from the figures given by them. by the hon. Minister or the Ministry but According to these figures, the wholesale it has been controlled by the sugar lobby. market price of sugar was Rs. 1260 per quintal in December, it was As. 1302 in In this connection, I, time and February and As. 1400 in April and when again, warned the authorities concemed. less quota was released in May, the The people belonging to sugar lobby prices rose upto As. 16.50 per Kg. In the were also sitting there. At that time I had meeting of the committee, I was told that also said that the prices of sugar are 92 thousand tonnes sugar had been likely to rise. As mill delivery rate of sugar imported whereas not a single piece is Rs. 1421 per quintal and if Rs. 85 as came to India. Again, in the meeting held excise duty and Rs. 30 as other on 10th May, I had said ... (lnterruptions) expenditure are added to it, the prices of sugar per Kg. comes to Rs. 15. MR. SPEAKEA: Don't refer to the Therefore, its retail price should not be meetings again and again. less than Rs. 16 per Kg. SHAI SHYAM BIHAAI MISAA: I What are the reasons for giving the had warned them that sugar has not same price for sugarcane to the fanners? reached the market so far. Therefore, When the prices of sugarcane were they should release 6.25 lakh tonnes. If fixed, the rate of sugar was Rs. 900 per 6 lakh tonnes sugar had been released quintal. Thereafter, molasses was in May, the prices would not have decontrolled. It has its own story. I would increased. But despite our repeated not like to go into its details. The sugar wamings, they did not budge. The result lobby also had a hand in it. There is a was that when 4.90 lakh tonnes sugar 543 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment s44 [Shri Shyam Bihari Misra] have been vested with'sugar mill owners ~ For a wholesale trader the limit of sugar was released, the prices rose by As. 2.50 stock has been fixed at 250 quintals and per Kg. there is a restriction that he would have to sell it off within 7 days after receiving I would like to know from the hon. the stock. It shows that sugar mills are Food Minister that under what having regulatory hold over its stock. The circumstances less quota of sugar was traders have no stock with them at the released in May. However, he has a moment. If some Government traders simple answer that on 15th March, they are having sugar stock, it is because they had permitted import of sugar under have recently imported sugar under open general licence. The Govemment has open general licence. But, did they calculate that what quantum of sugar given exemption to those sugar traders reached India? What is the position today who import sugar and keep its stock as in. regard to import of sugar? Are you still they wish. All others are not getting the going to cut down the quota? In June, benefit of such relaxation. The release 5.60 lakh tonnes sugar was released. I policy of the Government is the main had cautioned them that it was the reason for hike in the prices of sugar. season of festivals and wedding If the Govenrment releases 6 lakh tonnes ceremonies. Therefore, they should of sugar for next month the sl,lgar prices release at least 6.5 lakh tonnes sugar. will fall. The Government had issued When sugar is already available in the orders for import of sugar under the open General licence on March 15th. At that stock, why is it not being released? I do not understand this logic. Every time it time big traders made deal at the rate is said that sugar is being imported. Even of As. 275 to 297 but now why it is being we have less stock of sugar, which is sold at the rate of As. 380. Does the Government have any control over it? released under P.D.S. However, we can Has it imposed any restriction? Today expect less stock of sugar meant for sugar is being procured at the rate of open market in October or November 294, 275 and 280. But the Government because by that time a new year would has not imposed any ban over the profit start and imported sugar would reach eamed. Aecently the Govenment has India. But as per the past experiences, thanked the sugar mill owners. The less quota is released every time. Govemment is releasing 12 thousand tonnes sugar for PDS on no profit no loss So far, we have entered into an basis but I do not know whether that agreement for import of 6.81 lakh tonnes quantity of sugar was released or not. sugar, out of which only 2,90,345.tonnes I had tried to know whether that quantity sugar have reached the port. Out of this, of sugar was sold on no profit no loss 2,30,448 tonnes sugar has been unloaded basis or not. Now this sugar is lying at and 1.27 thousand tonnes has reached airport which costs As. 10 or As. 10.50 the market so far. The remaining sugar per kg. but it is being sold at the rate has not reached the market but you of As. 14-15. Besides this it is being said would calculate that it has come in the that import of sugar has been delayed. market. I, had apprised you in December-January that sugar must be imported. At that time I would like to say one more thing. it was told that there was no scarcity of The powers of stocking the sugar in India sugar but later on the scarcity was felt. 545 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 546

I wish to make it clear that the Ministry producers so that wine could be produced of Food and the Minister of Food are and sold. responsible for the hike in prices of sugar which has gone upto Rs. 16.50.per kg. SHRI UMRAO SINGH (Jallandhar): It is a different matter who are the people Mr. Speaker, Sir, the debate on sugar involved in or responsible for import should have been sweet but it has policy. It is the policy of the Government become sour. It should be taken seriously which is responsible for hike in prices of and a solution must come out. sugar. I, therefore, demand that it should be investigated and the facts should be All the people know and it is correct kept before the House. also that due to the less production of sugarcane the production of sugar has The Governemnt has just now come down. implemented the Jaggery control order and the production of Gur is stopped at present because it is a seasonal business. 19.00 hrs. The gur already produced would be consumed by next October. Fresh gur It is stated in the argument which will come in December. I had requested is given here that sugar should be the Govemment not to issue this order. imported, but it is not the solution. Here The Government had issued an order in the debate is going on but the issue is which the traders were told to sell out whether sugar should be imported or not a" the stock of gur which they possess but actually we also look into this fact within the fifteen days. If the' present whether import of sugar is in the interest stock of Gur will be sold within 15 days of the country or not. under the Jaggery control order issued by the Government from where the gur The leader of the opposition Party will be available in the market and who has mentioned the name of Gandhiji in will buy it. Though I requested the this context. If Gandhiji would have been Govemment several times for ensuring alive he would have not said that sugar availability of Gur yet the Government should be not imported but its use should imposed control over it in Haryana and be minimised. I would like to say that less Western Uttar Pradesh. People are facing consumption of sugar is in the interest great difficulty due to this Jaggery control of the country. During the time of famine order. Many people have filed cases in former Prime Minister Shri Lal Bhadur High Court and Supreme Court dnd the Shastri had given a slogan for north Supreme Court has given stay over it. Indians to stop consumption of rice for Big traders are earning profit from it but giving it to South . We the small general traders are suffering accepted his advice and stopped eating. badly. I would like to state that the rice. Atal Bihari Vajpayeeji should have Minister of Food should give its clarification told his friends and this House to make and the Jaggery control orders should be an appeal to the public that in view of withdrawn only then jaggery will be the sugar crisis the c~nsumption of sugar available for common man. With these should be minimised. I do not say that words, I support this resolution. the prices of sugar will come down if it will be imported or and whether wasting SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): of foreign exchange on the import of The Gur has been provided to' wine sugar is correct or not? My friends are 547 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 548

IShri Umrao Singh] announcement in this respect that he has given up sugar from today itself. It will saying that there had been a scam in improve his health. I can claim that sugar' import and actually sugar was not consumption of sugar should be reduced imported at all, in view of it I would like to meet the demand of sugar in the to say whether sugar is imported through country. It has been said that sugar is FCI, MMTC or State Trading Corporation, sweet and hot but I would say that it is in next session also, Shri George will poisonous also. The Minister of Agriculture level charges against the Government is also sitting here who is also a big that there had been some scam in sugar farmer. I request him to raise the import. The Govemment will be blamed production and quality of sugarcane so for the decreased production of sugar or that sugarmills will get sufficient import of sugar because the prices of sugarcanes to meet the demand for sugar will be not reduced. This issue can sugar in the country. Import of sugar is be solved only by providing subsidy on not in the interest of the country. In my sugar. opinion, we should appeal to the public of the country for reducing the This problem cannot be solved consumption of sugar as it was done by without raising the production of Shri for non- sugarcane. Today sugarcane growers consumption of rice by north-Indians. are facing great hardships. The crop of sugarcane is reaped once in a year but With this I oppose this Resolution. its prices are low and thus the farmers It is not in the interest of the country and sow less sugarcane. Farmer can reap more foreign exchange is spent on this three crops and eam more profit. If he item. Mr. Nirmal Kanti has mentioned does not sow sugarcane. So, in my view that 50 per cent among poor people do the scarcity of sugar in the country can not use sugar and if 50% people can live be removed by giving renunerative prices without sugar why others cannot do so. for sugarcane so that the farmer will sow Mahatma Gandhiji has taught us this the sugarcane crop in the next season. thing and we cannot follow his principles, if we eat more sugar. Perhaps you do not know that at the doors of sug~_rmills farmers have to SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. wait for two or more days for supplying Speaker, Sir, today we are discussing a sugarcanes in the chilled days of serious issue. The role of Cabinet December and January. It is very difficult Secretary of the Government of India thing especially in winter. We do not try and the Ministry of Food and the Minister to go deep in such things. We should of Food and Ministry of Commerce is reduce the consumption of sugar, if we doubtful in this sugar scandal. Judicial want to solve this problem permanently. commission should be set up to People of other countries do not take investigate their roles. I demand in this sugar in coffee or tea and here Atalji is august House to ensure the punishment saying that time has come for taking to the guilty persons for the cleanliness 'Sharbat'. Where are we going by advising of the polity of the country. our people to consume more sugar, rather we should have advised them to consume less sugar. Sir through you I As my colleagues have mentioned request the Minister of Food to make an that policies are responsible for this 549 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 550 sugar scam, but I would like to say that from supplying of levy sugar, and thus along with policies. persons and their I would like to say that the Government efforts are also responsible. The debate of India has handed over the open is not on the issue that prices of sugar market in the hands of sugarmills owners. have gone up due to the declined sugar production and untimely its import. I Sir, during the current year, when refuse to accept this fact and argument, production of sugar declined, it was the because for the past three years the responsibility of the Government of India country has produced more sugar than that percentage of levy sugar would have the requirement. Now during the fourth been raised and would have collected year sugar production has declined I more sugar in its buffer stock but it was would like to read out the datas in this not done. ihe second thing is when we regard. Sugar production was 1 crore 9 were discussing. the open Licence Policy lakh lonnes in 1989-90, during 1990-91 in the House, the hon. Minister said in it was 1 crore 20 lakh tonnes and during reply to one question that the concerned 1991-92 it was 1 crore 34 lakh lonnes. Member should go to. market and At that time while addressing this House, purchase sugar as much as he desires. the President said that India had become How the Government will sell sugar at one of the biggest sugar producing country reduced rates during Monsoon season and we can export sugar. Last year also replying to the question about the hon. 160 lakh tonnes of sugar was produced, Minister told that Sugar Mills will start which was just equal to our requirement. production by July onwards. The hon. Now af:er producing surplus sugar Minister made an impression that he is continuously for three years if the taking sugar scarcity very seriously, but production of sugar is declined only it was only an eyewash. I would like to 7-8 lakh lonnes why the prices of sugar read out the names of sugarmill owners have risen. The Government is who kept with them surplus stock of responsible for it. It has to give its reply sugar and imported sugar under general to this House. I would like to say that open policy. They are all the big sugarmill the Government's policies, the owners--Asia Sugars, Balrampur, implementing Minister and officials, all Ohampur, Bhopal Sugar, Aruna Sugar are equally responsible for it. etc. I will not read out all the names. Those were the big and farnous sugarmill The next thing I would like to say owners who imported sugar under this that the Government should not have policy and sold it in open market. I would gone to international market for the like to say that sugar is imported from import of sugar. Whenever the production Thailand and Pakistan. This sugar has of sugar declines in the country, the been bought· at higher rates. The Government altercates the ratio of free Government has paid an additional 50- sale and sale of sugar at controlled price 60 dollars at every tonne of sugar and once at a time of sugar scarcity, thus wasted the previous foreign Govenrment of India imposed a levy and exchange af the country. These sugarmiH collected 55 per cent sugar from mills for owners controlled the market by buying selling it at controlled price through POS. this sugar and looted the common public Now Govenrment has changed the ratio of the country and this was done under and 35 per cent sugar is sold through the patronage of the Government. , PDS and 65 per cent is in open market. would like to say that Rs. 700 crore of New sugar mills are given exemption farmers were outstanding with sugarmill 551 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 552

[Shri Mohan Singh] sugarcane. This will reveal your intention towards welfare of farmers. But you will owners in the year when 134 lakh tonnes not do that. Today, harders, smugglers of sugar was produced. What measures and blackmarketeers are looting the public you have taken for its' payment. The but the Government of India is not taking payment of last year was made during any action in this regard. this year when sugarmills started production. Hon. Minister has given Does the Government have the assurance that payments of arrears will figures of the people against whom be made by June this year but payment action was taken. was made by selling sugar this year. Due to this fact farmers sold their sugarcane to Khandsari and sugarcane crushers, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to say where they got Rs. 60 per quintal. But that the bureaucracy of India in you say that sugar production has declined connivance with the Khaddar-clad due to diversion of sugarcane. The jaggery politicians are plundering the people of and khandsari also contain sugar contents India. This is the second great scandal where has that gone? I would like to say after the securities scam. A judicial that this jaggery and khandsari have commission should be constituted in order been smuggled from Uttar Pradesh to to purge the public life and an inquiry Nepal and Bangladesh but the should also the conducted into the matter. Government has not taken any action With this demand, I conclude. against those smugglers. I would like to know whether this was not the [English] responsibility of the Government of India and Ministry of Food. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Pranab Mukhe~ee to speak now.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI KALP NATH (Interruptions) RAI): It is the responsibility of the State Government. DR. VASANT NIWRUTII PAWAR (Nasik): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thought you announced my name. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): At that time a rally was held in Uttar MR. SPEAKER: I think, all the Pradesh and Minister of Food was its names with me are exhausted now. Do incharge. For the benefit of sugarmill you want to speak? owners the prices of molasses were raised and it was decontrolled. I do not DR. VASANT NIWRUTII PAWAR: have figures as to what extent the palms I will just speak for five minute. were greased but it was said that 50 per cent cif profit earned by sugarmill owners on molasses will be given to farmers. But MR. SPEAKER: All right, you can farmers got nothing. If the Government speak for five minutes. has any courage then announcement should be made that in proportionate to DB. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR: the profit earned by sugarmill owners, Mr. Speaker, Sir, at the outset, I thank farmers will be given bonus on prices of you for giving me this opportunity to 553 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 554

speak on this Adjournment Motion. I herped this nation. You will not understand stand here to oppose this Motion because it because you know only the sweetness. this Motion is based totally on political Because of the drought condition in motive. The Government is quite -aware Maharashtra, diversion of cane to gur about the sweetness as well as the and khandsari, the sugarcane price bitterness of sugar. As it has been said reached a low level and. the cuHivation that one Govemment had fallen because of sugar was less. That is why, the of the sugar policy, we are quite aware Government has done proper thing by of the bitterness of sugar. increasing the sugarcane price and it has been increased up to Rs. 36.5 per In the past, there was an import quintal. This Government has paid back of foodgrains. At that time also, same the arrears of the previous Government. type of speeches were made by the As it has been mentioned, about Rs. 475 opposition Members. 'I am a doctor and crores has been paid by this Government I have a friend who is a gynaecologist. to the farmers. The Government has That friend gynaecologist once told me ... taken proper steps. The decision of import of sugar was declared in this MR. SPEAKER: No gynaecologist Parliament on 15th March, 1994. The and those things now. OGL import was allowed and raw sugar was also left duty free. The Surface Transport Minister has agreed for berthing (Interruptions) vessels and the Minister of Railways has also helped us. For monitoring of this DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR: import of sugar, a committee is there and Their motive is totally political. Everything . the committee is having weekly stipulation. they are seeing with a black glass. They Alternative sweetness like gur, khandsari are making allegations of scam, this and has been allowed to enter the market as that. (Interruptions) also restriction on the stock holding limits and restrictions on the tum-over today MR. SPEAKER: There is no time have been imposed on the gur dealers, for a" that now. that is, by the Gur Control Order. That is perfectly in order. 6.13 lakh tonnes of DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR: sugar was contracted by ·imports through It is a fact that the production of sugar STC and MMTC. As per my knowledge, has gone down. In 1991-92, 134.11 lakh the first vessel has arrived in Madras. tonnes of sugar was produced; in 1992- Further about 1.36 lakh tonnes of sugar R.93, 106 lakh tonnes of sugar was is arriving in the Indian ports this month Biti~oduced and in 1993-94, it came down and not later than the end of July. About this f,? lakh tonnes. The cost of production 6.81 lakh lomies has been imported by March, 'qaT has gone up. The production the private parties. Out ot this, 2.30 lakh these t~/hich is incurred by the sugar tonnes has arrived till today. Arrangement Rajya Sa~ has gone up. I must say here by the PDS has been maintained and we on this queerative sector in Maharashtra, have to wait till the next season starts. now you s'lrative farmers have contributed The PDS cost is As. '9.50 per kilograr.n. to our country. They have And this is still available in the PDS Mr. :.t loss of Rs. 5 per kilogram on shOps. The Government is committed to matter of d:Jr. For that they have incurred this. We have to just wait for increasing the Fel " Rs. 2000 crore and they have availability and it will show a definite 555 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 55,6

(Dr. Vasant Niwrutti PawarJ been pointed out and some figures have also been quoted that private parties declin~ in the future. The production has have bought sugar at $ 350 per tonne. to be improved and more price to the One Member quoted the figure as $ 350 sugarcane growers must be given. More per quintal. It is not per quintal, but. it sugar factories have to be sat up. All is per tonne. They said that they bought these efforts are done by the Government sugar at $ 350 per tonne on FoB. If you and that is in proper order. Hence, I add $ 50 towards freight, it comes to $ oppose this Adjournment Motion. 400 per tonne. And exactly the average price at which MMTC bought sugar THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE comes $ 382 per tonne including the (SHRI PRANAB MUKHERJEE): Mr. freight. Similarly, STC had bought sugar Speaker, Sir, I would just like to make at an average price of $ 392 per tonne a very brief reference to a couple of and when they wanted the advancement issues which have been raised in of the cargo, they have paid more for connection with the import of sugar. As some cargo. For example, in the June the hon. Members are well aware the shipment we had advanced the cargo decision to import sugar was taken on and they bought it at a higher price. But 9.3.94 and on the same day the Ministry the average price, according to the issued the notificationfor importing sugar contract which they have made comes under OGL and it was also exempted to $ 392 per tonne. As far as MMTC is from the duty. Naturally, Sir, when the concerned, the average price comes to decision was taken to import under OGL $382 per tonne and in the case of STC there cannot be any question of giving it comes to $ 392 per tonne. any directives to the State agencies. State agencies were also advised that if And how the prices have fluctuated they, according to their commercial in the London market? People are saying judgement, found it necessary to import, that cheap sugar was available. If cheap they can do so. But there was no sugar was available then why the private question of giving any directives or parties could not buy it? We are told that instructions to import sugar. MMTC started the price was less by $ 100 or $ 40 or importing sugar in a limited quantum in $60. But how it is that the private parties April itself and they contracted for import did not take advantage of that cheap of about 78,000 tonnes. STC intervened sugar? How is it that all these offers are in the market when it was found after coming to STC and MMTC? What special one month that private sector agencies advantage STC and MMTC have got? were not importing sugar under OGL Duty free claus~ is applicable tr upto that quantum which was expected. everybody. So, these issues are to . Then when we asked STC and MMTC found out. At what price, just at that • to step up their purchasing, uptill now, Bangaladesh bought sugar iJlAR: they have contracted-STC and MMTC international market; at what price taken together-around 6.26 lakh tonnes bought sugar at international which will be made available from now what was the price level? A you can to October-November. The first shipment figures are available on the has already arrived. everyday. The moment India ( buy sugar on a large scale, 'PAWAR: The second question which I would prices shot up like anything, I thank like to clarify is about the prices. It has 324.50 per tonne on the spot. ''Unity to 557 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 558

011 the 15th of April. On 18th of April, sugar without the knowledge of the hon. we decided that STC and MMTC would Minster. I am a Minister today and you intervene in the market in a massive way. too have been a Minister once. The The prices went up to $343.50; then it bureaucracy executes the decisions taken went uplo $ 358 and on 27th May, it went by the Minister. I cancelled the decision upto $ 359 per tonne. This House will taken by them on this, because hon. have to address itself to this problem. On Vajpayeeji was the chairman of PAC and earlier occasions also I told that if we just that Committee had submitted its report intend to purchase anything, be it sugar, on sugar scandal of 1989 and the then be it edible oils, be it any other commodity, Prime Minister had asked to CBI to probe the moment we take the decision that we the matter. If the Parliament is supreme, are going to import, people think that then PAC is the mini-Parliament. PAC is India is going to import in a big way and composed of the most leamed MPs of immediately a cartel is being formed and all the parties. They submitted their we have to face the situation. report in which following three things were enumerated. Therefore what mechanism could be thought of, that we should think of. [English] In respect of other matters, I am not going to discuss them in detail in this "No unregistered company should intervention because those are the issues be allowed to import sugar. Responsibility which my colleague, the Minister of should be fixed for the sugar bungling. Food, can competently deal with. I can The Committee would also emphasize assure the hon. Members that if there that the matter should be thoroughly is a lapse on the part of anybody, the examined by the Ministry of Food with Government will surely look into it and a view to devise the detailed remedial will take appropriate action at appropriate steps required to be taken in the matter time. What will be that appropriate action of any future imports undertaken by the will be decided by the Prime Minister. Ministry so as to ensure that such imports are made in the most cost- [Translation] effective and timely manner. The Committee would like to know the detailed strategy proposed to be implemented by SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Mr. the Ministry in future in this regard." Speaker, Sir, with regard to the adjournment motion brought by Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh and Shri Atal "The Committee feel that if the Bihari Vajpayee, I would like to. say that import had been made through OGL, it this House was in session for February, would definitely have been both cheaper March, April upto 13th May and during and quicker. The Committee feel that the· these three months no discussion, in better course at that time would have Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha took place been to permit import through OGL.· on this question. I have listened 10 you; now you should also listen to me. [Translation]

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it became a. Our Ministry has taken action on matter of discussion only when on 19.5.94, the actiQn plan formulated in this regard. the FCI floated tenders for importing The Committee s,ubmitted its Report on 559 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 560

[Shri Kalp Nath Aail here is about sugar. Hon. Vajpayeeji knows that a debt of As. 475 crore was 19.4.93 and on 18.2.94 they said on the outstanding on the farmers of India when action taken programme given here by I took charge of the Ministry of Food. Of our Ministry: that an outstanding sum of As. 460 crores has been paid. There were reports [English] that the farmers of India were sowing Soyabeen and Sunflower in place of "Now, in future, only STC will import sugarcane. Thus, there was need to do sugar because it is an expert party-has something by· which the farmers would a knowledge of import and export." cultivate more and more sugarcane. Mohan Singhji, tell me, has the Central The second thing written by our Govemment increased the prices of Ministry was: sugarcane as much after 1947 as have been increased after I took the charge of this Ministry ... (Interruptions) "Now no unregistered company will be allowed free import of sugar in future." [English] The third thing written was: SHAI SOBHANADAEESWAAA "The Food Corporation of India's AAO VADDE (Vijayawada): You have not work will be only to transport and handle helped the farmers. (Interruptions) You the sugar which has come on the ports." have helped the sugar factories. (Interruptions) You have not passed on the benefit to the farmers. (Interruptions) [Translation]

The fourth thing written was that it [Translation] was the action plan. PAC, the apex Parliamentary Committee conducted an SHAI KALP NATH AAI: We are all inquiry into this scandal of 1989 and the the representatives of the people. You CBI is probing the matter and this report have been in power, not once but many has been given unanimously by our times. You know the number of times the today's leader of the Opposition and' the Central Govemment increased the prices erstwhile Chairman, PAC and we of sugarcane... (Interruptions) formulated an action strategy after that report was received. Hon. colleague, SHAI MOHW SINGH (Deoria): Mohan Singhji may te11 me what shall I How mu~l:1-benefit was passed on to the do when such thing happens without the .farmers?.. (Interruptions) ... knowfedge of the Minister and tenders are floated for an order worth As. 400- SHAI KALP NATH AAI: I listened 500 crores... (Interruptions) to him as one would to one's younger Wether~ tie. spoke- even whet he should SHAI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): not have spoken. After 1947 such Either sack that officer or resign. exorbitant prices have never been paid to the farmers ....({nterruptions). Mr. SHAI KALP NATH AAI: Mr. Speaker, ~r, withfthe well wfshes of the Speaker, Sir, the second question raised han. Prirrie Minister, we decided to 561 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 562 increase the prices of sugarcane. Because on the basis of competition. In order to of this price increase, crores of Indian maintain the price stability of the free- farmers have grown sugarcane in such sale sugar, we made an announcement abundance that the next time.when we in this very Parliament on 15th March meet, India will produce so much sugar about the import of six or six and a half that we will be exporting the surplus lakh tonnes of sugar and just now stock. Mishraji has said that of that 2 lakh tonnes of sugar has reached Indian Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like you ports. As a result of that the prices of to impress upon my friends here to listen sugar have registered a full in the market to me carefully. I wish Atalji listened to of Delhi. You may confirm it if you wish me for 2-4 minutes. I don't have to speak so. (Interruptions) You confirm it for your much but as is being said here why did own satisfaction. not we import sugar in November? According to the sugarcane production Mr. Speaker, Sir, today, one can data sent to us by the Ministry of buy as much sugar at the rate of Rs. Agriculture in November and December, 14.50 per kg. as one likes because it is the production of sugarcane this year has available in Delhi's Consumer goods been only, a little more than that of the godowns and 500 outlets. (Interruptions) last year. This years estimated sugar production is 1 crore 7 lakh tonnes as Mr. Speaker, Sir, we decided to compared to last years' production of 1 import sugar under OGL on the crore 6 lakh tonnes, according to those recommendations of the han. Vajpayeeji figures. You know that there was an because the committee had suggested increased production of sugar during that we can get relatively cheaper sugar November and December but since the if it is imported through OGL. Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh, hon. Mulayam Singhji removed the ban on We have fixed Rs. 9 per kg; as the producing Gur, sugarcane, that could rate of sugar for the poor people who produce 10 lakh tonnes of sugar was used to buy it at the same rate. diverted to making gur. It was at that (Interruptions) time that we sent a note to the Cabinet Secretariat saying that there will be less [English] sugar production, now, and the country will face a shortage of sugar. Therefore one million tonnes of sugar should be Mr. Speaker. Mr. Joshi, this is very imported. My Ministry sent the note on wrong. You are getting up every time. 24th January. Subsequently, a decision in this regard was taken in the first [Translation] Cabinet meeting on 9th March. Two types of sugar are sold in the country-one SHRI KALP NATH RAt: Mr. type is sold at Rs. 9 per kg. through Speaker, Sir, through PDS, sugar is public distribution system right from being sold @ Rs. 9.05 per kg. throughout Kanyakumari to Kashmir and this is the country and such quotas have been managed by the Chief Ministers of sent to all the State Governments. Now respective states and the second type of the responsibility of making available this sugar released under the free-sale quota sugar at the same rate in their respectiVe by our Ministf)' is sold in the free· market states ties on Shri Shekhawaiji, Shri 563 Motion for Adjoumment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjoumment 564

[Shri Kalp Nath Rai) [Translation]

Mulayam Singh Yadavji and Shri Laloo SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Mr. Yadavji. (Interruptions) Just now our friend Speaker, Sir, lastly, I will conclude by Shri Mohan Singhji asked what has the saying that the question is whether this Government of India done? Against how country will be run by democracy or many black marketeers, hoarders and bureaucracy. We have already taken a smugglers has action been taken? Hon. decision on it. (interruptions) Mohan Singhji. this is tile responsibility of Shri Laloo Yadav and Shri Mulayam Hon. Chandra Shekha~i, you' said Singh Yadav. (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker. that Atalji is your Guru (teacher) and you Sir, it was because, sugarcane was are my Guru... (Interruptions) you said dive red to prepare gur. Today, I would that today, I must speak the truth. r have like to say that under OGL, sugar has to say only one thing: come into the market and the Ministry of Commerce has procured 6.5 lakh Ham karein kya dariya agar labrez maikhane main tonnes of sugar for the poor people and hai we assure them that the price of Rs. 9 will be maintained until the Ham 10 ilni janIe hain jilani paimane mein hai. commencement of seed time on 1st November and price of free sale sugar. .. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in case Chandra (Interruptions) Shekharji were the Prime Minister and I were in his Cabinet, then my duty was that SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): Tell us how did it happen in FCI. (Interruptions) {English]

SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Mr. will obey him one-hundred per Speaker, Sir, our friend, Mohan Singhji cent. asked why was molasses decontrolled. We have increased the prices of [Translation] sugarcane for farmers by decontrolling molasses, a cause for which leaders like With these words, conclude. Shri Chandra Shekhar, Chowdhary , Basant Dada Patil and {English] Shri Gonda Singh had to go to jail. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Now I shall put the motion to the vote of the House. Let the Lobbies be cleared- {English]

Now, the Lobies have been cleared. SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA RAO VADDE: But, who are benefiting out The question is: of this decontrol of molasses? Have you passed on 50 per cent of the profit to "That the House do now adjoum.· the farmers which you promised to them? (Interruptions) The Lok Sabha divided: 565 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 566 Division No.2] [19.52 hrs. AYES

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal

Acharia, Shri Basudeb Choudhury, Shri Lokanath

Advani, Shri Lal K. Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin,

Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra Chowdhary, Shri Pankaj

Anjalose, Shri Thayil John Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath

Asokaraj, Shri A. Das, Shri Jitendra Nath Baliyan, Shri NK Datta, Shri Amal 8andaru, Shri Dattatraya Deshmukh, Shri Chandubhai Barman, Shri Palas Dharmabhiksham, Shri Barman, Shri Uddhab Dhumal, Prof. Prem Basu, Shri Anil Dikshit, Shri Shreesh Chandra Berwa, Shri Ram Narain Drona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh Bhargava, Shri Girdhari Lal Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashraf Bhattacharya, Shrimati Malini Fernandes, Stui George Chakraborty, Prof. Susanta Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik Chandra Shekhar, Shri Gangwar, Dr. P.R. Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar Chaudhary, Shri Rudrasen Gautam, Shrimati Sheela cmauhan, Shri Chelan P.S.

Cha~han, Shri Shivraj Singh Ghangare, Shri Ramchandra Marotrao

Chavda, Shri Harisinh Gohil, Dr. Mahavirsinh Harisinhji

Chhatwal, Shri Sartaj Singh Gopalan, Shrimati Suseela

Chhotey Lat, Shri Gowda, Prof. K. Venkatagiri

Chikhlia, Shrimati Bhavna Hossain, Shri Syed Masuda! 567 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 568

Jai Prakash, Shri Malik, Shri Puma Chandra

Janarthanan, Shri M.R. Kadambur Mallika~unaiah, Shri S.

Jatiya, Shri Satyanaran Mandai, Shri Sanat Kumar

Jeswani, Dr. K.D. Mandai, Shri Suraj

Jha, Shri Bhogendra Manjay Lal, Shri

Joshi, Shri Anna Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna

Joshi, Shri Dau Dayal Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Kalka Das, Shri Misra, Shri Janardan

Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal Misra, Sh(i Satyagopal

Kanaujia, Dr. G.L. Misra, Shri Shyam Bihari

Kanodia, Shri Mahesh Mollah, Shri Hannan Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta Kashwan, Sh~ Ram Singh

Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal Mukherjee, Shri Pramothes

Mukhe~ee, Shri Subrata Katiyar, Shri Vinay Munda, Shri Kariya Khan, Shri Sukhendu Murmu, Shri Rup _Chand Khanduri, Maj. Gen. (Reid.) Bhuwan Chandra Narayanan, Shri P.G.

Khanoria, Major D.o. Oraon, Shri Lalit

Koli, Shri Ganga Ram Pal, Shri Rupchand

Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan

Krishnendra Kaur (Deepa), Shrimali Passi, Shri Salraj

Kumar, Shri Nitish Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas

Kunjee Lal, Shri Paswan, Shri Sukdeo

Lodha, Shri Guman Mal Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas

Mahajan, Shrimati Sumitra Patel, Shri Brishin

Mahato, Shri Sir Singh Patel, Shri Chandresh

Mahendra Kumari, Shrimati Patel, Shri Haribhai 569 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 570

Patel, Shri Somabhai Sanghani, Shri Dileep Bhai

Pathak, Shri Harin Sarode, Dr. Gunvant Rambhau

Pathak, Shri Surendra Pal Scindia, Shrimati Vijayaraje

Patidar, Shri Rameshwar Shah, Shri Manabendra

Patnaik, Shri Sivaji Shakya, Dr. Mahadeepak Singh

Prakash, Shri Shashi Sharma, Shri Jeewan

Pramanik, Shri R.R. Sharma, Shri Rajendra Kumar

Prasad, Shri Hari Kewal Shastri, Acharya Vishwanath Das Prem, Shri B.L. Sharma Shukla, Shri Astbhuja Prasad Premi, Shri Mangal Ram Singh, Shri Brijbhushan Sharan Purkayastha, Shri Kabindra Singh, Dr. Chattarpal Rai, Shri M. Ramanna Singh, Shri Hari Kishore Rai, Shri Nawal Kishore Singh, Shri Mohan (Deoria) Raj Narain, Shri Singh, Shri Rajveer Raje, Shrimati Vasundhara Singh, Shri Ram Prasad Ram, Shri Prem Chand Singh, Ramashray Prasad Ram Singh, Shri Singh, Shri Rampal Ramdew Ram, Shri Singhl, Shri Satya Deo Rana, Shri Kashiram Sivaraman, Shri S. Rao, Shri D.Venkateswara Soren, Shri Shibu Rawal, Dr. Lal Bahadur Sur, Shri Monoranjan Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar Swami, Shri Sureshanand F\'.awat, Prof. Rasa Singh Tandel, Shri D.J. Ray. Shri Rabi

Ray, Dr. Sudhir Tej Narayan Singh, Shri

Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan Thakore, Shri Gabhaji Mangaji

Reddy, Shri B.N. Tirkey, Shri Pius

RoY. Shri Haradhan Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand

ROypradhan. Shri Amar Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran 571 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 572

Topiwala, Shrimati Dipika H. Varma, Shri Satish Chandra

Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani Veerappa, Shri Ramchandra

Tripathi, Shri Prakash Narain Vekaria, Shri Shivlal Nagjibhai Verma, Shri Phool Chand Trivedi, Shri Arvind Verma, Prof. Rita 'Umrao Singh, Shri Verma, Kumari Vimla Vadde, Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad Vaghela, Shri Shankersinh Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari Yadav, Shri Ram Kripal Varma, Shri RatilaJ Zainal Abedin, Shri

NOES

Adaikalaraj, Shri L. Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu

Ahirwar, Shri Anand Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Ahmed, Shri Kamaluddin Birbal, Shri Aiyar, Shri Mani Shankar Brohmo Chaudhury, Shri Satyendra Nath Ajil Singh, Shri Bula Singh, Shri Anbarasu, Shri R. Chacko, Shri P.C.

Antulay, Shri A.R. Chaliha, Shri Kirip

Arunachalam, Shri M. Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal

Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Margatham Charles, Shri A. Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Chaudhary, Shri Kamal Bhadana, Shri Avtar Singh Chaudhri, Shri Narain Singh Bhagal, Shri Vishweshwar Chaure, Shri Bapu Hari

Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan Chavan, Shri Pritiwiraj D.

Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram Chennithala, Shri Ramesh

• Wrongly voted for Ayes. 573 Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment p74 Chidambaram, Shri P. Gogoi, Shri Tarun

Chinla Mohan, Dr. Gomango, Shri Giridhar

Chowdary, Dr. K.V.R. Gudadinni, Shri BK

Chowdhary, Shrimali Sanlosh Gundewar, Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao

Chowdhury, Shri A.BA Ghani Khan Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh Harchand Singh, Shri Dalbir Singh, Shri Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh Damor, Shri Somjibhai Imchalemba, Shri Deka, Shri Probin Inder Jit, Shri Delkar, Shri Mohan S. Islam, Shri Nurul Dennis, Shri N. Jaffer Sharief, Shri C.K. Deora, Shri Murli Jakhar, Shri Balram Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Jangbir Singh, Shri Devarajan, Shri B. Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram Devi, Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Jawali, Dr. B.G. Dighe, Shri Sharad Jayamohan, Shri A. Faleiro, Shri Eduardo Jeevarathinam, Shri R. Farook, Shri M.O.H. Jhikram, Shri Mohanlal Fernandes, Shri Oscar Kahandole, Shri Z.M. Gaikwad, Shri Udaysinghrao Kairon, Shri Surinder Singh Gajapa!hi, Shri Gopi Nath Kaliaperumal, Shri P.P. Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh

Gami!, Shri Chhitubhai Kamal Nath, Shri

Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram

Gehlot, Shri Ashok Karnson, Prof. M.

Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh Kanithi, Dr. Viswanatham

Giriyappa, Shri C.P. Mudala Karredula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari 575 Motion for Adjournment JUNE 13, 1994 Motion for Adjournment 576

Kasu, Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekara

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila Naik, Shri A. Venkatesh

Kewal Singh, Shri Naik, Shri G. Devaraya

Khanna, Shri Rajesh Naikar, Shri D.K.

Khursheed, Shri Salman Nandi, Shri Yellaiah

Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna Nawale, Shri Vidura Vithoba Krishan Kumar, Shri S. Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya Krishnaswamy, Shri M. Nayak, Shri Subash ·Chandra Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji Netam, Shri Arvind Kuli, Shri Billin Nikam, Shri Govindrao Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Nyamagouda, Shri S.B. Kuppuswamy, Shri C.K. Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Kurien, Prof. P.J. Padma, Dr. (Shrimati) La' lmanan, Prof. Savilhri Palacholla, Shri V.R. Naidu Made Gowda, Shri G. Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh Pandian, Shri D. Mallikarjun, Shri Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Mallu, Dr. R. Pania, Shri Aiit Marbaniang, Shri Peter G. Panwar, Shri Harpal Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. Patel, Shri Harilal Nanji Mathur, Shri Shiv Charan Patel, Shri Praful Meena, Shri Bheru Lal

Meghe, Shri Datta Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar

Mirdha, Shr, Nathu Ram Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harijibhai

Mujahid, Shri B.M. Patil, Shri Prakash V.

Muniyappa, Shri K.H. Patil, Shrimati Pratibha Davie

Muralee Dharan, Shri K. Patil, Shrimati Surya Kant? 5n Motion for Adjournment JYAISTHA 23, 1916 (SAKA) Motion for Adjournment 578

Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Roshan Lal, Shri

Pawar, Dr. Vasant Niwrutti Sadul, Shri Oharmanna Mondayya

Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal Sahi, Shrimati Krishna

Pilot, Shri Rajesh Sai, Shri A Prathap

Prabhu, Shri R. Sanipalli, Shri Gangadhara

Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan Sawant, Shri Sudhir

Pradhani, Shri K. Sayeed, Shri P.M.

Prasad, Shri V. Sreenivasa Selja, Kumari

Rahi, Shri Ram Lal Shankaranand, Shri B.

Rai, Shri Kalp Nath Sharma. Shri Chiranji Lal

Rajeshwaran, Dr. V. Sharma, Capt. Satish Kumar

Ram Awadh, Shri Shingda, Shri O.B.

Ram Babu, Sbri A.G.S. Shivappa, Shri K.G.

Ramamurthy, Shri K. Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan

Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally Siddhartha, Shrimati O.K. Tharadert;oL

Rao, Shri J. Chockka Sidnal, Shri S.B.

Rao, Shri p.v_ Narasimha Silvera, Dr. C.

Rao, Ram Singh Col. Singh, Shri Abhay Pratab

Rao, Shri V. Krishna Sirigh, Shri A~un

Rath, Shri Rama Chandra Singh, Shri Motilal

Rattwa, Shri N.J. Singh, Shri S.B.

Rawat, Shri Prabhu Lal Singh, Oeo, Shri K.P.

,Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. Sing la, Shri Sant Ram \ leidy, Shri A. Indrakaran Sodi, Shri Manku Ram

rlt;._ .V, Shri A. Venkata Solanld, Shri Surajbhanu

't Shri G. Ganga Sukh Ram, Shri FI'" .aVI, Rt. ., hri M. Baga Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati

Reck; 1 M.G. Sultanpuri, Shri Krishan Outt "" Re&Iy, ' ~. Surender Sundararaj, Shri N. 579 Message from R.S. JUNE 13, 1994 Message from R.S. 580

Suresh, Shri Kodikkunil Unnikrishnan, Shri K.P.

Swamy, Shri G. Venkat Upadhyay, Shri Swarup Tara Singh, Shri Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh Verma, Shri Shiv Sharan Thangka Balu, Shri K.V.

Thomas, Shri P.C. Verma, Kumari Vimla

Thorat, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S.

Thungon, Shri P.K. Vyas, Dr. Girija Tindivanam. Shri K. Ramamurthee Wasnik. Shri Mukul Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb Yadav. Shri Ram Lakhan Singh Topno. Kumari Frida

Tytler. Shri Jagdish Yadav. Shri Ram Saran

Umbrey, Shri Laeta Yadav. Shri Surya Narayan

MR. SPEAKER: Su~e~ to from the Secretary-General of Rajya correction, the result" of the Division is: Sabha:-

Ayes - 1n I am directed to inform the Lok Noes - 217 Sabha that the Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held Oil the 13th June, 1994, has passed Ti': motion was negatived. the following motion:-

Motion 19.57 hrs. "That this house concurs in the MESSAGE FRQM RAJYA SABHA recommendation of the Lok Sabha that the Rajya Sabha do agree tf [English] leave being granted t:'~, the .i Sabha to withdraw the Bill fu~ .er- SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I have to amend the Constitution of ~,Idia, to report the following message received which was passed by the 'lajya

*The following members also recorded their votes: AYES: Shrimati Saroj Dubey, Shri V. Dhanajay Kumar, Shri Yogananda' Sar: ''8U, Dr. Ramkrislma Kusmaria. NOES: SlShri Umrao Singh, Vilas Muttemwar, Satya Pal Singh Yadav.·' .'{:mt. I.aksivunan Singh, S. Jaya Surya Prakash Reddy KotIa, Kumar! SushII Maruti Deoram Shelke, Shrl Bapu SahIb ThIte. .18 " 581 Message from R.S. JYAISTHA 23,1916 (SAKA) Message from R.S. 582

Sabha on the 29th April, 1992 and 19.59 hrs. laid on the Table of the Lok Sabha on the 4th May, 1992. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock on Tuesday, Junt! 14, 1994/ Jyaistha 24, 1916 MR. SPEAKER: The House now (Saka). stands adjourned to meet again tomorrow, the 14th June 1994 at 11.00 A.M.