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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Ninth Series, Vol. VI; No. 45 Monday, May 21, 1990 Vaisakha 31, 1912 (Saka} LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Second Session (Ninth Lok Sabha) ( Yol. VI eontain.r NoJ. 41 IO 50) LO.K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Prlr� · R.6, 6.00 CONTENTS [Ninth Series. Vol. VI. ~ Session. 1990/1912 (Saka)] No. 45, Monday, May 21, 199ONaisakha31. 1912(Saka) CoLUMNS FIe. Demand for Presidenfs Rule in Haryana 1-19 22 474-4n Oral Answers to Questions: 19-22 *Starred Question Nos. 901 Written Answers to Questions: 23--474 Starred Question Nos. 902 to 917. 919, 23-76 920 and 922 Unstarred Ouestion Nos. 9549 to 9686. n--474 9688 to 9694 and 9696 to 9743 Re. Law and Order situation in Jammu and Kashmir *The SVn + tnaJ1csd above the name 01. UINnbII indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor ~ the House bfthal Mamber. LOK SABHA DEBATES LOKSABHA cannot hear. Let us proceed with the Ques- tion Hour. ( Interruptions) Monday, May 21, 1990, Vaisakha 31, MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. 1912 (Saka) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kumaramangaiamji and Dineshji, please take your seats. I would The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock like to tell you that let us go on with the Question Hour. And we can take up the [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) matter ... [English] ( Interruptions) RE: DEMAND FOR PRESIDENT'S RULE MR. SPEAKER: I am on my legs. The IN HARYANA Speaker is on his legs. MR. SPEAKER: What happened? ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) [ Translation] t..4R. SPEAKER: This is QuestIon Hour. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rao, please sit down. All of you take your seats. SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: No. (/nter- TUptions) [English] MR. SPEAKER: Let us go on with My point is, you can raise it after Ques- Question Hour. You 'can raise it at 12 0' tion Hour is over. Clock. (Interruptions) ( Intenvptions) SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM (Sivaganga): lem): We want President's Rule in Haryana. Please allow us. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Dinesh Singh. I PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): We 3 Oem. for President's MAY 21.1990 Rule in Haryana 4 want President's rule in Haryana. (Interrup- Why we are asking for the President's tions) ~Ie. Sir, has a meaning. It is not in abstract that we are asking. The Prime Minister waS [ Translation] pleased to concede that there should be a judicial enquiry. This is being disputed by the MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Joshi, please sit Government of Haryana. Even so, with the down. kind of rule that exist in Haryana, can • Judicial enquiry be meaningful today? Even the CBI enquiry is not meaningful. If the Government can scheme to kill a person [English) only to enable a person to win an election from some other constituency. how can there SHRI DINESH SINGH (Pratapgarh): Mr. be an impartial judicial enquiry successful Speaker, Sir, you will appreciate that in view under these circumstances? I would there- of the barbaric happenings in Haryana, it fore request the Prime Minister through you would be impossible for us to continue with that he declares here that President's rule the Question Hour. The matter is far too will be imposed in Haryana and the Assem- serious for us to deal in a normal manner. It bly will be dissQlved and fresh elections will is, therefore, our requests that the Prime be held. (Interruptions) Minister who is present here ... MR. SPEAKER: Are you for suspension MR. SPEAKER: You can raise it after 12 of the Question Hour? Let me know the o'clock. Government's view. THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): I am respond- SHRI OINESH SINGH: It is not a matter ing to the point made by Shri Dinesh Singh. which can wait even till 120'clock. Our Prime ( Inteffuptions) Minsiter is here, Sir. He has already given some expression to his views in his private MR. SPEAKER: If the House agrees aeroplane. When the House is sitting, it that we should not have the Question Hour, would have been appropriate if the Prime I nave no objection. I would like to know the Minister had given his views to this House. Government's view on the suspension ofthe This is a serious matter. It is not a usual Question Hour. I want to hear the Law Min- matter in which you can give your views ister about the suspension of the Question separately. And it wOuld have been appro- Hour. priate. One can say that he has only ex- ( Interruptions) pressed his view. not a Government's policy. But even so, view of the Prime Minister MR. SPEAKER: If you are all standing becomes the Government policy. And. there- like this, I cannot pear anything. fore, we are sorry that the Prime Minister has chosen to give it quietly in his cabin in the air THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION rather than to have shared his views with us AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF in this House. Our request is, Sir, that the PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. President's rule should be imposed immedi- UPENDRA): "the same thing happens in atety. The Chauta\a Government should be Andhra win you demand the same thing? dismissed ... (/ntem,I/Jlions) ( Interruptions) 5 Dem. for President's VAISAKHA31, 1912 (SAKA) RuJe in Haryana 6 MR. SPEAKER: let us hear the Prime You are senior Members of the House. Minister. SHRI B. SHANKARANAND (Chikkodi): We want dissolution of the Assembly, not SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE just the President's rule. (Bolpur): Shri Vasant Sathe ... (Interruptions) The Prime Minister has yielded. (lntsmlp- PROF. P.J. KURtEN: We want three tions) Sir, taking part in the Adjournment things; dismissal of the Chautala Govern- Motion, Shri Vas ant Sathe ... (Interruptions) ment, dissolution of the House and the PresI- Sir, why are they allergic to the name mShri dent's rule in Haryana. (Interruptions) Vasant Sathe? (Interruptions) Where is Shri Vasant Sathe? Don't you want him any THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI VISH- more? WANATH PRATAP SINGH): May I be al- lowed to say something? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri PooJ~ry, let us SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY hear the Prime Minister. He is on his Jegs. (Jagatsinhpur): Sir, I am on a point of order. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: What is yaw point of order? SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: I think, Sir, there is still some steam; let them ( Interruptions) let it out and then, I will respond. (Interrup- tions) MR. SPEAKER: Under what RUle? One thing more. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) Shri Poojary, we were together. (Inter- MR. SPEAKER: I am calling the Prime ruptions) Minister. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (Mangalore): That is why, I know you. Please show your value based politics. (Interrup- MR. SPEAKER: What is the point of tions) order? ( Intenvptions) SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Sir, last time in the House, there was a demand for an enquirY by the s;ttirig Judge of MR. SPEAKER: , can I hear. the Supreme Court. Han. Shri Vasant Sathe has I'JIisedthis point. The Government agreed ( IntelTlfJlions) to it and the Chief Minister of Haryana has also expressed hlmseH-that he win concede SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: The to the request. Regarding the CBI enquiry ... issue is about suspension of the question ( Interruptions) hour. Without giving your ruling about sus- pension of the question hour, the Prime MR.. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. Minister cannot speak. 7 Oem. for President's MAY 21,1990 Rule in Haryana 8 MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of also is there. I believe and I have said so and order. Please take your seat, Mr. Choudhary. abide by it-in public life, we have to look in Mr. Prime Minister. a much broader context and the sense of the House I will put before the Cabinet. We can SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: take a collective view only then. Otherwise I I just mentioned that the Government had am unable at this stage immediately to say given assurance in this House for inquiry by anything on this. (/ntenvptions) a sitting Supreme Court Judge and we stand by it. I believe, the Home Minister today will But certainly we will take a view in the be moving ... (Inte"uptions) Cabinet in whole context. You cannot upset me by these tactics. You know it. You can go on trying. I will try to SHRIMATI UMA GAJAPATHI RAJU cooperate with you and I will tell you. (Inter- (Visakhapatnam): When? ruptions) SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Today itself, the Government will be Today. moving the Chief Justice of India for the appointment of aJudge so that commitment, MR. SPEAKER: I have called upon Mr. that we have made, is implemented. (Inter- Rajiv Gandhi. ruptions) ( Interruptions) This was a request from that side, from yourseH. Han. Vasant Sathe had made this SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I would like request. Specifically he had mentioned it. him to speak. But. after that I hope that you We agreed to it. We are implementing it. will permit me to make a legal submission on (In'9rruptions) the submissions made by the Opposition. The services of the CBI will be available SHRI RAJIV GANDHI (Amethi): Mr. to the investigating Judge apart from other Speaker Sir, the Prime Minister is right that agencies which he may wish. The Home Mr. Sathe had asked for an inquiry-Let me Minister is also trying to get in touch with the talk, , also know what has happened-by a Chief Minister; he is away, not in the capital Supreme Court judge. From what I read in there. (Interruptions) the newspapers, I find that the inquiry that has been contemplated by the government is an inquiry into the murder of an individual I am informing the House exactly what Sir, that is only part of the issue.
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