MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24Th Oct 1996 to 3Rd Feb 1997
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MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 Subj: * New Folder Date: 10/24/96 7:35:37 AM From: TSRO Tank Please resume the Mystara discsussion here. --TSRO Tank Message Board Host TSR Online Subj: Re:* New Fo/96 11:18:35 PM From: TSR Bruce <<You create cannon? So, you're into forgery? A man of you calibre? Was that spelling intentional, or were you just culverin your tracks? Sorry to bombard you with these puns, hope you didn't recoil in horror.>> LOL TYGHOK! Good thing you're aiming to entertain, else we'd all loose sight of what's fun and really get bored. Let's not go ballistic with this barrage of puns though. :P Bruce Heard Subj: * New Folder Date: 10/24/96 7:35:37 AM From: TSRO Tank Please resume the Mystara discsussion here. --TSRO Tank Message Board Host TSR Online Subj: Re:* New Folder Date: 10/24/96 7:56:36 AM From: NHLT Rick Page 1 of 313 MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 Mystara Folder #5! Well done everybody! Lets keep on rolling. Rick Subj: Re:* New Folder Date: 10/24/96 9:37:59 AM From: Bargle1066 Yes! I am the third entry on this folder. I have beaten Amaldis, Bruce, Mystaros, and all. On a better note, we have only taken three months. #5 Woo Hoo! Subj: New Subject Date: 10/24/96 9:58:45 AM From: Mystaros OK. New folder, new topic. I assume everyone is tired of hearing about Darokin, as no one seemed to post any responses to my posts, except for Amaldis, who always seemed to find *something* wrong with whatever I posted (though I've noted that I seem to do the same to him, as well). I'll try a new thread here. What has everyone done with the Isle of Dawn? As I have noted in the past, I have developed numerous "homegrown" cultures for this region (including the Helska, Dunael, Daumancer, Danoia (AKA UiNeala), Caerda, Amancer, Asieri, Trikelians and Alatians, as well as the previously mentioned Thothians). Has anyone else developed cultures and civilizations to fill in the spaces? TSR products always put the Isle of Dawn in a cultural "vacuum", in which there were apparently *no* natives former to the settlement by the Nithians, Alphatians and Thyatians; everyone from the Isle was from one of these cultures (or the more recent Norse colonies, but I digress). This never sat too well by me; thus, I developed new cultures and expanded on the written history of these lands. Has anyone else done so, and if so, what have you done? I am interested in hearing what others have developed... Mystaros Page 2 of 313 MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 Subj: Re:New Subject Date: 10/24/96 10:12:34 AM From: Bargle1066 I have the Dunael conquer a portion of the Isle of Dawn. More on this, later. Subj: Re:New Subject Date: 10/24/96 2:32:28 PM From: TYGHOCK In Heretic World, as far as the IOD goes, well, "Ya wouldn't recognize da place!" First, we have no Alphatia. It's a myth, just open sea to the East of IOD. So no colonists came from there. Thyatian population overspill, including forced resettlement, covered most of the South. The South has some Minrothad Guild settlements as well, although these were largely for trade, and most were captured in the South Trade War. Rockhome was too populous for its rocky home, so close to 1 million migrated, over time, to north-central IOD. Some settlements came from the Northern Reaches lands as well. Norworld has cultural ties with the original cities in the north, although the Rockhomid migrations really gave the cities their bastardized Western flavor. People with Western roots are outnumbered by natives, but their is a mixed culture as well. Most interesting are the Ylari settlements in the Sunderlands. They are short on transplanted people, but long on converting natives into Kalimite fanatics! Ah, yes, we have idigeonous (?) folk on IOD. Cultures range from Ethiopian, Adal and Western Sudanese in the open areas to Incan and Kongo types in the denser areas. The Western and Northern cities are long-migrated Rockhomids, so the cities have a Scots Common Army type mitilia, and deal with a slight intermix or grumbly acceptance with the natives. Wars rage constantly on the East Coast, away from Known World influence. Politically, IOD is a powderkeg. Thyatian expansion in the South is colonial and causing conflict. The Cities in the West formed the Quorum, six Dukes (WestRoarke, Redstone, Sunderland, West Portage, Newkirke and Septem.) who select one of them to be Archduke over the west. The Sept. Duchy just fell by marriage to Thyatian control. The duke in Sund. died, and Ylari factions are itching for conquest. Ostland has tightened its relationship with cities in the NorthWest. And Ostland's conflict with the Heldann Freholds will probably pull Dunadale and its confederacy into the mess. Sounds like fun........ Page 3 of 313 MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 Subj: Davania/ TG Archepelago Date: 10/24/96 3:50:15 PM From: TYGHOCK Has anyone ever done any expansion on the Southern lands called Davania? I have maps from the Champions of Mystara, one which includes the cities of Castelios and Garganin. Currently, I just note them as mysterious cities with trading outposts controlled by Ierendi and M. Guild merchants. Thyatian fleets never got there during the South Trade War (glub, glub...). Forgive me if this is an ignorant or obvious question ... I obviously haven't read my quota of Dragons or Dungeons mags (though with all these tidbits I keep getting told about, perhaps I should start). Also, which map has the Thanegoth Archipilago on it? Again, I just used it as the secret base for Guild shipping to the SouthEast. Subj: Re:Davania/ TG Archepelago Date: 10/24/96 4:31:33 PM From: AMALDIS Kastelios is a rich merchant city of Milenian origin. Garganin is a lost colony of Hule. The Thanegioth Archipelago is mapped in X1 Isle of Dread. -Amaldis Subj: Re:New Subject Date: 10/24/96 4:51:06 PM From: AMALDIS <<Amaldis, who always seemed to find *something* wrong with whatever I posted>> Heh, Heh. Read on. <<TSR products always put the Isle of Dawn in a cultural "vacuum", in which there were apparently *no* natives former to the settlement by the Nithians, Alphatians and Thyatians>> Actually, the Ylari are native to the Isle of Dawn. It says that somewhere in Gaz 2. Page 4 of 313 MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 -Amaldis P.S.Please remember(Mystaros and others) that these are not intended to put anyone down(Such as:"That was shameful Mystaros. You did not completely read pg. 2 of the mini adventure 'The Spindle' found within the Dungeon Master's screen. If you had you would have known that it could not be positioned....."), but instead to correct mistakes for those of you who are concerned by "canon" Mystara(which doesn't seem to be anyone who has posted in this folder besides me). Subj: Canon Mystara Date: 10/24/96 5:05:33 PM From: Bargle1066 I prefer to be a purist. In fact, I prefer to know everything in advance, so my adventures never interfere with Mystaran cannon. Now, I create the cannon. This is better than voting. Subj: Re:Canon Mystara Date: 10/24/96 6:14:40 PM From: TYGHOCK Hey, we're not purists. We wear our Heretic World badge with pride. BUT....and I mean this with all sincerety..I like the thought and detail that has gone in to the design of this world. Yeah, it has some weird anomolies, but it also has Structural Integrity. Transplanting our Pikemen and arquebusiers to Mystara didn't make the world untenable. Remember, I'm trying, as much as possible, to continue the heritage of Mystaran places when we set up the campaign scenarios. Thyatis may have an Austrian Hapsburg military and court, but it's culture and outlook are strictly Thyatian. That's what makes this so enjoyable for us wargamers. Subj: Re:Davania/ TG Archepelago Date: 10/24/96 6:16:52 PM From: TYGHOCK >Kastelios is a rich merchant city of Milenian origin. Garganin is a lost colony of Hule. The Thanegioth Archipelago is mapped in X1 Isle of Dread.< Page 5 of 313 MYSTARA MESSAGE BOARD (AOL) Folder 5 - 24th Oct 1996 to 3rd Feb 1997 Thanks Amaldis. Is there another map of Davania floating around somewhere I don't know about? Subj: Immortals Date: 10/24/96 8:00:06 PM From: Telrathin In response to Chandog21's question if a complete listing of Immortals and their priests similar to the format found in Faiths & Avatars would be appriciated, my response is I would love to see such a document produced and would be forever in that person's debt. I was also wondering how Mystara might fit into the Plancescape setting. I was flipping through Hallowed Ground at my local Hobby Store (it looks like an excellent project, I would suggest buying it to anyone who uses Gods in their campaign), and though it mentioned the deities from FR (of course) and Greyhawk, it didn't even touch on Immortals. Now I know this topic is a well traveled road, but I was wondering how the Immortals and Mystara fit into the planes.