Czech-Slovak (and cross-language cooperation in general)

-- [[User:Blahma|Marek BLAHUŠ]] WM CEE 2013, Modra (SK), 2013-11-15

Affiliations

● ELiSo = Esperanto kaj Libera Scio (Esperanto and Free Knowledge) – WM User Group since 2013-04-04 – unites Esperanto-speaking WM contributors ● Wikimedia – member since 2012 ● Masaryk University, Brno (CZ) – NLP programmer in Language Centre ● E@I

Czech-

● not a new language edition of Wikipedia! – unlike Serbo- etc. ● a wikiproject born within the – soon to be active also in the Slovak Wikipedia – a cross-wiki wikiproject (but not on Meta…) ● "Czech-Slovak" („česko-slovenská“), not "Czechoslovak" or "Czecho-Slovak" – forget about the "hyphen war"! (1990)

The Czechoslovak affair

● (1918–1992) – common country of the Czechs, the Slovaks, ... – multilingual country, later federation of two states – strong passive understanding of Czech/Slovak ● "Velvet divorce" (1 January 1993) – Czech Republic, Slovak Republic – independent countries met again in the EU (2004) – extraordinary relationships but still "abroad"

Czech &

● both are West Slavic languages – along with Polish, Upper/Lower Sorbian, Kashubian ● close linguistic similiarty – own subgroup within West Slavic languages? – language continuum, two standards – "Czecho-Slovak" nation/language in WW1 politics ● close linguistic similiarty (mutually intelligible) – common practice: speak yours & understand theirs

Current situation (1993+20)

● Slovaks still in touch with – books, movies, songs, food, work & study, L10n ● young Czechs do not understand Slovak – some even prefer speaking English – Slovak students at Czech universities help ● joint Czech-Slovak initiatives – inter-governmental agreement on language use – "CzechSlovak idol", www.slovake.eu

Czech-Slovak Wikipedia's goals

● to foster and formalize mutually profitable cooperation between the Czech & Slovak WP – contribute to their growth (cs: 279K, sk: 189K) – help revive cultural and linguistic exchange ● common Wikipedia is not a good idea – distinct languages, not just an issue of alphabets – divergent tendencies in language development – not following the ex. of Serbian or Chinese WP

Scope of the wikiproject

● technical aids for readers and writers – prominent display of article in the other language – translation gadget based on machine translation ● keeping pace with each other by sharing – systemizing the current practice of cs<->sk translations – bringing communities closer to each other ● supporting the creation of new articles – on common past and current development – Czech articles on Slovak municipalities and v. v.

The translation gadget

● button in the toolbar, activated in Preferences

● currently in beta non-public testing

● uses wikitext in DOM by Visual Editor's Parsoid

● translates plain text through Google Translate – cs<->sk is an exception – not mediated through en ● performs many bot-like edits on the result – to compensate for pitfalls of the translation engine – localize NS, links through Wikidata, infoboxes…

sk: Územie obce bolo osídlené už na prelome 11. a 12. storoč ia. Vtedy tu vznikla [[Benediktíni|benediktínska]] pustovň a (spomínaná ako Gothal, božie dom č eky), okolo ktorej postupne vyrástla osada. Prvá písomná zmienka o nej sa datuje roku 1288. Ďalšia písomná zmienka týkajúca sa územia dnešnej Liptovskej Osady je z roku 1340, v listine [[Karol Róbert|Karola Róberta I.]], v ktorej urč oval chotár [[Ružomberok| Ružomberka]] až po pustovň u nachádzajúcu sa na sútoku rieky Lúž ňanky a Revúcej.Šípka, E.: Kto je kto v Liptovskej Osade cs: Území obce bylo osídleno již na př elomu 11. a 12. století. Tehdy zde vznikla [[Řád svatého Benedikta|benediktinského]] poustevna (zmi ň ovaná jako goth, boží domky), kolem které postupně vyrostla osada. První písemná zmínka o ní se datuje roku 1288. Další písemná zmínka týkající se území dnešní Liptovské Osady je z roku 1340, v listině [[Karel I. Robert|Karla Roberta I.]], v níž ur č oval chotár [[Ružomberok| Ružomberka]] až po poustevnu nacházející se na soutoku ř eky Lúž ňanky a Revúci.Šípka, E.: Kto je kto v Liptovskej Osade

Acknowledgments

● This presentation is licensed under CC BY-SA.

● Following works by other persons were used: – "Vražda Ľudmily Cervanovej" http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vra%C5%BEda_ %C4%BDudmily_Cervanovej (Wikipedia contributors, CC BY-SA) – "Liptovská Osada" http://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liptovsk%C3%A1_Osada (Wikipedia contributors, CC BY-SA)