Inside: • How to Bleed an MG Clutch • 2014 AGM Niagra Falls • Watkins Glen Vintage Races • When Oil Pressure is Too High • Spare Parts

Vol. 24, No. 6 November / December 2014

Mid Summer Dreams In Winter THE NORTH AMERICAN MGB REGISTER MG Driver is the official publication of the North American MGB Register, a non-profit organization dedicated to maintaining and expanding interest in Britain’s most popular sports car—the MG. The opinions expressed within are those of the individual authors and readers are warned that they attempt any mechanical or other modifi- cations described herein, entirely at their own risk. Membership in the North American MGB Register is open to all, with no restrictions. Ownership of an MG is not a condition of membership. NAMGBR Regional Chapters will be pleased to welcome you to their events. Membership dues are $30 per year. For membership details or further information write to: NORTH AMERICAN MGB REGISTER P. O. Box 876 Downers Grove, Illinois 60515-0876 Toll-free hotline: 800-NAMGBR-1 • www.namgbr.org OFFICERS OF THE NAMGBR 6 2 6-4 2 7 1

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SERVICE Bruce Wyckoff EDITORS EMERITUS: Ken Smith RECOMMENDATION 10975 Aspen Trl. Kim Tonry COORDINATOR: Zeeland, Mi 49464 (616) 748-0580 [email protected] FOR REGISTRAR INFORMATION, PLEASE SEE PAGE 65. The North American MGB Register is affiliated with the MG Car Club of England. The MG Car Club was founded in 1930 and is the original, factory supported, and approved organization for all MGs, with the club headquarters situated in Abingdon-on-Thames close by the birthplace of all MGs. The North American MGB Register is a 501(c)7 Not-For- Profit Corporation. MG Driver Magazine ©2014 All rights reserved. Any part of this publication may be reproduced by members and member clubs only, with the expressed credit given to “The MG Driver Magazine” — Editor Robert Rushing. All images in this MG Driver ©2014-BGA Studios.com/Charles de Bourbon, unless otherwise noted. Robert Rushing Bruce Wyckoff Page 5 • From the Editor Page 9 • Secretary Report Alan Magnuson John Twist Page 7 • Chairman’s Chat Page 60 • Tech Talk Jeff Taylor Classifieds & Where to B Page8 • Vice Chairman Page 66, 67 Editor’s View Reports ou’d think things would slow 2015 AGM-Niagra Falls down after the convention, but Peter Mittler Y they never do. The 2014 Moss Page 25 Challenge continues and the compe- Robert Rushing On the Inside tition is fierce this year. The AGM is Editor coming up and so are a lot of deferred The MG Driver MGB Registrar car repair projects (at least in my Jack Long Basic MG: Electrical System It’s time for another Cover Girl Barry Rosenburg garage…). Plus there is always the need contest. This time it will be for the Page 10 Page 28 to put together the Nov/Dec edition of March/April issue. The deadline will The MG Driver. be December 31, 2014. Photos need to We have a lot of Registrars’ reports be as large as possible (2MB or larger) MGC Registrar in this issue and Jack Long’s rundown and let’s go with a travel theme. Try to John Roger ‘Twas the Night Before . . . of this year’s Watkins Glen races where Larry Brough find a great shot of your car with some Page 11 MG was the featured marque. We also Page 32 interesting background or maybe have some good tech bits. Speaking packed to the gills for a trip. E-mail the of good tech bits, I really need some Early Midget entries to me and I’ll get the top ten in articles on MGC-specific technical front of the Executive Committee for & Sprite Register Watkins Glen Vintage G.P. pieces – front suspension, engine, etc. Bruce Hamper Jack Long the winning selection. I can’t wait to I also need some tech pieces on Post see them! Page 12 Page 34 Abingdon cars. Robert

100 / 200k Register Jai Deegan Records Set in “Collier Cup” Greg Prehodka Page 13 Page 39

Post-Abingdon Register Fuel Pump Problems Mark Jones Dave Braun Page 15 Page 41

Ken’s Korner Oil Pressure Too High Ken Smith Rober Rushing Page 17 Page 47

Readers Ride Spare Parts Rober Rushing Dave Braun Page 19 Page 49 On the Covers Readers Ride Big Brothers Big Sisters William Doyle Southern Indiana MG Club Front: Remembering the cool early summer in Pennsylvania. Page 21 Page 56 Back: Forelorn view of the Hellertown, PA entrance this past June. In 2015 it starts all over again. We’re all heading to Canada to see the falls! Bleed an MG Clutch System Letters to the Editor Steve Chivington Page 23 Page 57 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 5 Chairman’s Chat

n previous 2014 issues I have writ- ten about MG models from the 1920s to the 1960s in celebration Alan Magnuson I Chairman of the 90th Anniversary of MG, the Marque of Friendship. This month NAMGBR I’ll continue with the MGB, Midget, ride height were introduced in 1974 1100/1300, MGB/GT, MGC, MGC 1/2. The 6-cylinder MGC and GT were GT, MG RV8, Metro, the Z cars, MG produced from 1967-69. MGB GT V8s F/TF, to the Chinese MG production were sold from 1973-76. models. MG introduced the four passen- The MGB was introduced in 1962 ger, front wheel drive, 1100 model in as a modern (roll up windows) and 1962 which carried on, as the 1300, comfortable sports car. I am sharing until 1973. The Midget was also a portion of an article Peter Thornley modified to modernize and to meet wrote in remembrance of his father changing standards, changing to rub- for MGB Driver in 2009 to mark his ber bumpers and the Triumph 1500 father’s 100th birthday. “When the engine. British Leyland closed the MGB is considered, Syd Enever was Abingdon factory October 24, 1980. deeply involved in the monocoque de- During the 1980s to the early sign for the next generation MG. And 1990s, Austin Rover continued MG to perhaps give you a new perspective badge engineering tradition by selling on the MGB and John’s respect for MG versions of the Metro, Maestro, Syd Enever let me quote again from and Montego. In 1992, the MG RV8 his own writing: “I think if you want began a low production run. The MG an indication of how remarkable it is, as F was introduced in 1995. BMW sold a design: take an MGB roadster with the MG to the MG Rover Group in May ‘shed’ down: open both doors fully; and 2000. MG badges were placed on Rover then look at it from the side with your eyes designs the ZR, ZS, ZT, and the ZT-T about a foot off the ground; and you will station wagon. The new TF was in see two large chunks of motor car joined production from 2002-05 when Rover together by ‘not very much’; into that ‘not entered bankruptcy. very much’ he had to build, not just the As you are aware, MG is now beam strength to hold the thing up off the owned by the Chinese company SAIC, road, but the torsional rigidity. You see and cars are sold under a UK subsid- if you are designing a saloon motor car, iary, MG Motor. They are producing you’ve got tin over the top, and you can the four passenger MG6, MG3, and stress that, you can make the thing as MG5. The MG 5 European Prototype torsionally tight as you like. He got it built has been photographed doing high into the sills. He deserves a Putty Medal altitude testing in Colorado and a for that lot.” John Thornley, MG Gen- disguised 2015 MG GT version of the eral Manager from 1952 to 1969, wrote MG5 has recently been photographed this about the MGB and Syd Enever, on the roads around Lansing, Michi- MG Chief Engineer, 1954-71. gan. The MGB/GT followed in 1965. Who knows when the MG Marque MGB production continued until will again be sold in North America? 1980 with annual updates for the US/ We can only hope in anticipation! European safety and emission stan- Happy Thanksgiving! dards. Rubber bumpers and increased Alan 6 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 7 Vice Chairman Secretary’s Report

Jeff Taylor reetings All, Bruce Wyckoff Vice Chairman We have had a busy two months NAMGBR Secretary G since the last issue of The MG NAMGBR ello fellow MG fanatics… club is eligible for one of the most im- Driver. Please join me in welcoming the As we enter the fall/winter portant benefits of NAMGBR member- following new members to the NAMGBR Family. We would also like to welcome H season, I hope that everyone ship, INSURANCE. If you don’t know back a number of members who had taken off for a period of time, but have made has had an enjoyable summer driving already, having the minimum number the commitment to renew their membership. their MG. While I had some elec- of eight NAMGBR members, your club Welcome back all! tronic/fuel issues with my 65 B, I did will be covered under the NAMGBR Bruce Benson Forest Lake, MN get in some good driving. But as winter Liability policy for all club events in Mitchell Christiansen Hughson, CA approaches, like many of us, I will be 2015 (with minor exceptions). Kenneth Cary Fort Worth, TX putting Molly away with hopes of do- And speaking of club insurance, if Trevor Calarco Eureka, MO ing some much needed work on to get you go to the Resources tab, under the Doug Colby Sacramento, CA her ready for her 50th birthday next affiliate column you will find the link Alex Ertis San Ramon, CA summer. Good luck in your “renewal” to information about the insurance Dennis Norris Henning, TN efforts. and an online insurance request form. T. V. Weaver Leeds, AL While we enter our quiet time, Complete the forma and after we Bill Bradley Gatineau, QC there are many things happen in check it out making sure all the boxes Ken Lewis Wilsonville, OR NAMGBR. MG 2015 is up and run- are complete (It actually won’t let you Jon Clark Winston Salem, NC ning with hotels already filling up, submit it without being complete) James Morris Jr. Belleville, IL and registration ready to begin. The your insurance certificate will be on Dennis Kelley Kirkwood, MO other exciting NAMGBR project is the its way to you in no time at all. But re- Rita Bratley Niagara Falls, ON newly redesigned and functional web member, as an affiliated club with the Keith Ware White Bear Lake, MN page. If you have not seen it yet, take minimum eight NAMGBR members David Sell Sammamish, WA time to go to NAMGBR.org. The new your club and officers will automati- Richard Campbell Summerville, SC layout is fantastic and what Simon Dix cally be covered with or without a cer- Damian Marrese Bridgehampton, NY designed in a short time is amazing. tificate – you only need the certificate Michael Munley Charlotte, NC I am confident you will find it full if the location your event is being held John Shook Colorado Springs, CO of information and easy to navigate. requires proof. Randy Weaver Johnstown, PA As Vice Chairman I am particularly Here’s to a great and enjoyable Robert Davidson Hoschton, GA excited about two tabs at the top, fall and winter MG season and I hope James Knaup Hillsboro Beach, FL “Join Us” and “Resources”. Under the to see all of you next June in Niagara Ian Kempf Imlay City, MI Join Us tab not only can you renew or Falls. Jeff Dean Hickenlooper Darien, IL extend your mem- Tim Scheerhorn Belmont, MI bership, you can Tom Allsberry Rockford, MI update your Chapter Hugh Burks Stafford, VA Affiliation informa- Richard Ehrlich South Padre Island, TX tion. With many Dee Johnson San Diego, CA clubs holding elec- Allen Harding Newburgh, IN tions in the next few James Ohnstad Fargo, ND months you can now Allan Watson Bobcaygeon, ON update the correct Wayne Jorgensen Aledo, TX information on club Nicholas Lewis Edmond, OK officers, newsletters, Ralph Cozart Myrtle Beach, SC and other pertinent Johnny Tillman Gainesville, GA information. This Donald Marr San Luis Obispo, CA will ensure that your Quentin Sager Homosassa, FL Bruce 8 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 9 MGB Registrar MGC Registrar et me start by apologizing for missing my column in the last John Rogers L edition of The MG Driver. My MGC Registrar summer was very hectic with work Jack Long NAMGBR projects, which also prevented my at- MGB Registrar tendance at French Lick for MG 2014. NAMGBR Everyone I know who attended has ronto has an innovative and entertain- said what a great time they had – kudos ing event planned around a MaGic he time has come to say good-bye For example replacing brake compo- to the Southern Indiana Regional Brit- theme. I will also be at the Annual to summer and all the fun that nents can be much less expensive than ish Car Club and the Illinois Flat Land General Meeting in Niagara Falls in T goes with it. It has been a busy having the original ones re-sleeved British Car Club for their outstanding October and look forward to checking year with all the scheduled events and and rebuilt. organization and delivery. I also want out the great facilities, and hope to driving activities in our MGCs. For a While maintaining, repairing, to thank my friend Richard Liddick for meet many of you there. lot of you, it will be time to winterize or updating your MGC, one needs to filling in for me in my absence, and While my summer was hectic, your cars and make needed repairs evaluate their individual needs. Origi- commend him on his selection for the I did manage to sneak away long and updates. As one of our long time nality is one of many important con- John Thornley Spirit of MG award. It enough to attend the 2014 Vintage members said, “The list of repairs and siderations. Function, performance, was Richard who recruited me into Grand Prix and Tour de Marque updates seems to never end.” convenience, reliability and cost are NAMGBR, and his leadership of both in Watkins Glen, New York, right Many members like to post on the a few others to use in your evalua- our local MGs of Baltimore club and after Labor Day. MG was the featured internet their activities which range tion. Everyone’s evaluation will differ NAMGBR has been an outstanding ex- marque this year and the town did us from rebuilding engines to replacing which is what personalizes our cars. ample of service and dedication. Well proud with thousands of folks lining burned out light bulbs, which at times Performance minded owners seem to earned, Richard! the main street to see us lap the old can be a real challenge. An observation like converting to the triple carbura- While it seems like MG 2014 road course. Watkins Glen is my old is that most owners strive to keep their tion over the originality of the twin has just ended, planning is already stomping grounds; I grew up in north cars as original as possible when select- set up. Some like the convenience of well under way for MG 2015 in central Pennsylvania and spent many ing replacement parts or doing small hood struts, mini-lite wheels, or spin Niagara Falls, Canada and I will not happy days at the Glen in my misspent modifications. This is where things on oil filters. Still others will take the miss this one. Based on what I have youth. It was wonderful to return after start getting hard with the market function of a four core radiator, poly heard, the MG Car Club of To- a 33 year absence. choices available. Recently, there was suspension bushings or relays for their a discussion regarding oil filters. Some electrical circuits. All of these should Bruce Benson, Forest Lake MN, 1974 MGB say to use the original canister with a be reviewed for reliability and cost. Kenneth Cary, Fort Worth, TX, 1970 MGB/GT felt element, while others like to use The important factor is to make your Ken Collins, Malvern PA, 1973 MGB GT the paper element. You will find others car so you feel comfortable with it and Cindy Criteser, Westland MI, 1977 MGB recommending replacing the canister enjoy the results. Roger Deacon, Granger IN, 1971 MGB/GT with an adapter and use a spin-on Don’t forget to order MGC regalia Jeffery Dieleman, Washington IA, 1969 MGB filter. This then leads to which brand for that special Christmas present. The Tom Doyle, Tahoe Vista CA, 1976 MGB of spin-on filter to use; confusing to Thermo Coffee containers are perfect. Lynn Jones, Jonesborough TN, 1977 MGB say the least! The point here is that all Connie has Shirts, Hats, and Sweat- Jerry Keller, Green Lane, PA, 1976 MGB perform the same function with some shirts and will be happy to take your James Morris, Belleville, IL, 1972 MGB keeping the original look while others orders. You can do it online or contact Robert Orr, Ridgeville, IN, 1967 MGB make things a bit more convenient. Connie at [email protected]. George Phariss, Ivanhoe IL, 1978 MGB Another concern is the reliability Contact me with your ideas sug- Anthony Santek, Pittsburgh PA, 1973 MGB of the original replacement part verses gestions and what you expect or want Michael Sigler, Sioux Falls SD, 1975 MGB today’s technology of making updated from your North American MGC Bill & Karen Staines, Rollinsford NH, 1980 MGB type parts. Electronic ignitions and Register. Contributing articles and Stephen Swarin, West Bloomfield MI, 1967 MGB/GT fuel pumps are made to uphold the pictures for The MG Driver are always H. Robert Vann, Virginia Beach VA, 1972 MGB original look with today’s internal welcome about you and your MGC at Kenneth Waeber, Milford OH, 1964 MGB components. Cost is also part of the [email protected]. Miles Warren, San Diego CA, 1967 MGB equation in keeping with originality. James Webb, Huntington IN, 1972 MGB Andy York, Whitestown IN, 1973 MGB/GT Jack John 10 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 11 Early Midget/Sprite Registrar 100K / 200K Register his year has truly been the Year nfortunately, it has been quite of the MG Midgets! I’m excited some time since I have writ- T to report that more and more U ten an article for the Driver; I Midgets and Sprites are appearing Bruce Hamper will try to do better in the future. The Jai Deegan at shows, driving events, and on the Midget Registrar 100,000 / 200,000 Mile Registry with- 100K / 200K Registrar open road. For many years, it seems NAMGBR in the North American MGB Register NAMGBR that Spridgets represented a small frac- Gary Perrault 1970 MG Mk III Midget. is a way to recognize members who are and their car are welcome as well. tion of any British Car show compared A green MG equipped with a V8 en- the owners and operators of cars that Members of the Registry will with other marks. This is somewhat of gine and air conditioning! Way to go have completed 100,000 or 200,000 receive a certificate acknowledging a surprise considering the numbers of for the long drive! Richard Eisele 1969 miles. The current owner need not their ownership of a vehicle that these vehicles sold during the years of AH Mk IV Sprite. This Sprite is under- have accumulated the entire mileage. has traveled 100 or 200 thousand production. According to Wikipedia, going a complete restoration. While The Registry continues to wel- miles and a dash plaque for their car. a total of 226,000 Midgets (1961-1980) currently yellow, the finished Sprite come NAMGBR members whose cars Several NAMGBR members joined the and 129,000 Sprites (1958-1971) were will be blue with blue interior. Restora- have traveled over 100 or 200 thou- 100/200 Thousand Mile Registry at produced giving a grand total of over tion project includes a modified 1275, sand miles. Members who request to MG 2014 in French Lick Indiana. I will 355,000 Spridgets. This production Datsun 5-speed, flared fenders, wire become members are asked to send catch up on them in my next article. number compares favorably with the wheels and tube shocks. Hope to see it along year, model, VIN, body or com- The Registry currently lists 183 MGB roadster (1962-1980), of which in 2015! David Girton 1973 MG Mk III mission number, engine number, over 520,000 were produced. In the 100k and 17 200k members. This rep- Midget. It’s a driver and its white with and mileage to me for our records. In past, the car shows would have a smat- resents over 20l million miles in MGs! a black interior. Peter Cosmides 1962 addition, I request the owner’s name, Members include MG Midgets, MGBs, tering of Spridgets compared to well- MG Mk I Midget. A long time MGB as they would like it to appear on the MGB/GTs, MGCs, MGC/GTs, Specials, represented MGB models. owner, Peter recently added this very certificate and their North American and Limited Editions. Spridgets were considered low original Mk 1 Midget to his collection. cost, entry sports cars. In the late MGB Register membership number. Remember, if you drive it, you’ll It’s totally original (46k miles!) with Photos and a short history about them 1970s, MG Midgets were advertised as Ice Blue exterior, original rubber floor have fun! “Heavy on the Fun, Light on the Budget”. mats and the very cool Ace Mercury In the ‘60s, the AH Sprite’s tag line optional wheel covers. Notice the pad- Members who have submitted their was, “The only True Sports Car for under ded rear seat cushions; it really a four cars for membership in the 100k $2000”. At that price point, Spridgets seater! Registry over the last several years could be had for about the same cost Stephen Swarin 1974 MG MkIII include: as a VW Beatle. As a result, there were Midget. Equipped with a Bugeye Bon- John Morris, 1974 MGB plenty of Spridgets on US roads in net, 5-speed and Miata seats. Engine Jim McDowell, 1977 MGB the ‘60s. However, many of these cars modified APT cam and Weber OGV. Rob Edwards, 1969 MGB were driven hard, raced, modified and The exterior color is a Black Tulip with Art Bedrosian, 1965 MGB returned to dust! Fortunately, more a gray/silver interior. Must be a com- Larry & Marsha Eils, 1977 MGB restorers and “keepers of the faith” are fortable and fun ride! Bill Gillson, 1972 MGB/GT bringing out Spridgets as fully restored Thanks for all the responses to the Jim Baustian, 1974 MGB/GT examples, roadworthy survivors and Spridget Register. I always look forward Taco Champigny, 1976 MGB everything in between. to receiving emails, letters, and web Jack Long, 1973 MGB Let me congratulate Dennis Ces- responses. Why not send a picture Joe Brent 1969 MGB/GT tra, this year’s Concours winner at MG or two of your winter project? Stories Byron Hapner, 1978 MGB 2014 with a very excellent and original about your Spridget projects are always Pam & Tom Koch, 1973 MGB/GT 1964 Mark II Midget. Based on the welcome. I’ll try to include as many NAMGBR tally, there were also 16 pictures of member’s cars as possible in The following members had cars that Midgets in the popular vote car show. The MG Driver. If you have not already have travelled 100k and 200k: As the driving season winds down, I registered your Spridget, be sure to hope you are planning a few winter visit the online registration on the Allen Bachelder, 1973 MGB/GT projects for your Spridget. Let’s get NAMGBR website namgbr.org or send William Lane, 1979 MGB them ready and roadworthy for 2015. your information directly to me at Lann Mauck, 1963 MGB And now for the new registrations the new register email: midget-sprite@ Bob & Donna Green, 1971 MGB John Morris’ 1974 MGB speedometer just for the Early Midget/Sprite register: namgbr.net Bruce Wayne Veatch, 1967 MGB. before 100K. 12 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 13 Post-Abingdon Register

Mark Jones Post-Abingdon Restrar NAMGBR

Art Bedrosian’s very smart looking 1965 MGB. Larry Eils in his 1977 MGB. t’s been a fairly near Fort Wayne. busy year for the I was travelling I Post Abingdon/ with some friends Modern MG Register. and fortunately we At last count there stopped for lunch Bob & Donna are 13 NAMGBR at a Cracker Barrel Green’s 1971 members that own just moments before MGB with an Post-Abingdon/Mod- the storm hit. I sure interesting hard ern MGs. There was was glad that we top version. a really good turnout stopped when we of Post-Abingdon did because it was a cars to MG 2014, in torrential rain and French Lick, Indiana: Post Abingdon line up at MG 2014 thunderstorm; there three MGFs and two was even a tornado MG RV8s. This was warning issued for the first year that the area. We fin- there was a class for ished lunch just as Post-Abingdon/Mod- the rain ended and I ern MGs. Thanks found the interior of must go to the the car to be dry. NAMGBR Executive Another event for doing their very worth noting was best to make Post- John Twist’s Sum- Abingdon cars feel mer Party Reunion, part of the NAMGBR where John picked community. All day the Post-Abingdon long people were MGs as the featured coming to see the Post Abingdon Cars were the featured car. Post-Abingdon cars and ask ques- marque at the UM Summer Party. MG owners showed tions. It was great to their apprecia- see so much interest tion by bringing in the Post Abing- together the largest don cars. Hopefully gathering yet of we’ll have even more Post-Abingdon/ cars at MG 2015 in Modern MGs, a to- Niagara Falls. tal of 10 cars, six of The 700 mile which were NAMG- round trip to French GR members, with Lick was an un- five models present: eventful drive, aside MG RV8, MGF, MG from a rain and TF, MG ZS, and thunderstorm that MG SV-S. A large we encountered Modern MGTF and a MG ZS crowd of people

14 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 15 Ken’s Korner

but a combination of ill health, old age, and lack of mobility led me to realize that I could no longer drive the car or look after it the way that I felt an Article and images MGB should be looked after. Getting provided by Ken Smith in an out of the car after my surgery proved to be a real pain (pun intend- ed!) and I could no longer work on the never thought I’d see the day when car as I used to, by undertaking all my I looked outside my window and own maintenance. I did not see a MG of one kind or an- No sooner had we taken the other parked outside. For over 50 years, decision to sell the MGB than we had I have owned MG cars driven them in two people saying “We’ll have it!” We 40 different countries and enjoyed ev- never even had the chance to adver- ery mile of my time behind the wheel. tise the MGB before it was sold, and a But the day finally came and after check for the asking price was already At the host hotel for the University Motors Summer Party. much agonizing and in consultation on its way! with my Nagavator we decided to sell This car was rather special as it gathered under the Portico to listen to updated, sharing the old leaf spring our beloved Limited Edition MGB. was previously owned by my great a short presentation on each of the five rear of the MGB. The boot lid and It’s not that we needed the money, friend Ron Tugwell, former Limited models. doors were shared with the original Last time, I introduced you to car, as were the rear drum brakes. The the MG Metro, one of the first Post- interior was built to luxury standards, Abingdon/Modern MGs that could be featuring veneered burr elm wood- imported. This time I thought I’d talk work and Connolly Leather. The RV8 about a car that might be a bit better has a number of hand pressed panels known to most readers: the MG RV8. made by Abbey Panels, whose other The MG RV8 came about in the customers include Rolls Royce and closing months of 1989, with the suc- Jaguar. These panels are produced to cessful re-introduction of the MGB a very high quality being near perfect bodyshell by British Motor Heritage. and ready for painting. Rover decided to build a limited edi- The MG RV8 was launched at the tion MG sports car using this shell as British International Motor Show in a starting point, called Project Ad- October 1992 to celebrate the 30th der. This was a stop gap model until anniversary of the MGB. The demand the PR3 project (MGF) was ready for in the United Kingdom was never as production. strong as it had been hoped, how- The MG RV8 was designed from ever in October 1993 “Rover Japan” the outset to take advantage of as displayed the RV8 at the Tokyo Motor much existing MGB hardware as pos- Show and the reception was that of sible, yet the finished product con- “Star Status” with some 1300 orders tained only 5% original components. having been secured soon after the The vast majority of parts, including show. Of the 2000 RV8s produced over engine, drive train, electrical system, 75% went to Japan. A small num- body and trim are all either totally ber were also exported to mainland new or adapted from other Rover prod- Europe. The final car was produced on ucts. The suspension was only slightly November 22, 1995.

Mark Ken and his faithful “Nagivator” Barbie and their beautiful MGB LE.

16 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 17 Readers Ride By Robert Rushing HAPPY ANNIVERSARY MGB!

Bonneville Salt Flats International Speedway. Final ride.

Edition Registrar of the NAMGBR and for the car, to go to the new owners. we had traveled many miles behind The carrier turned up with the biggest this LE as we went to various MG car transporter I have ever seen – the meets across the country. Speaking of length of two semis! But away she went which, that was yet another reason we and we know the new owners will take sold the car. I could no longer attend good care of our long time baby! the meetings and conventions like I So we are “MG-Less” for the time used to, looking at the cars on display, being-whether we’ll ever have another and speaking with the owners. Also, is doubtful considering my health I can no longer stand around without problems, but I will still endeavor to MG 2013 trip, here entering Montana. Auto crossing. support for any length of time. act for the Limited Edition owners in ormally, I would save the space choices – junk it and look for another So the decision was taken, and the Register. in the magazine for your cars, B or restore it. The smart thing would very reluctantly arrangements were There’ll be more to come on this but this time it is different. have been to do the former since this made to ship the car in an enclosed subject, but meanwhile here’s a photo N November marks the 30th anniversary one needed so much rust repair, not trailer some 2300 miles to the East taken at French Lick of LEs at the 2014 of my ownership of my 1971 MGB. I to mention the newly bashed in front Coast. We re-installed the hard top Convention. May I wish all of you a got the car when I was just 17 and a se- wing. On the other hand, a new MGB (which we never used in California!) safe and happy holiday time and we’ll nior in high school. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t come with the memories. and packed all the spare bits we had be back in the New Year! Ken experienced years of me not knowing That, of course, gave me the answer I a wrench from a screwdriver and abus- needed. ing the car through my college years as Over the next year and a half, I well as numerous wacky adventures. worked on the car under the expert In the mid-1990’s, I started to hand of John “The MG Doc” Mangles learn more about how to fix things and fully restored my baby back to and managed to rebuild the engine health, switching the color from Tar- and suspension along the way, despite tan Red to Silver Blue along the way. the fact that it was rusting faster than I Since then, I’ve driven the car from could contain it. I continued to drive it coast to coast, participated in numer- in its wretched state until I had an ac- ous endurance rallies, nine NAMGBR cident in the car in 1999. As I sat next conventions, autocrosses, a track day, to the car waiting on the tow truck, and just a lot of driving for fun. LEs at MG 2014 French Lick, Indianna feeling gutted, I realized that I had two 18 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 19 Readers Ride By William Doyle

San Francisco Bay

he story begins in the summer a good foundation for restoration, so of 2009. I was driving down the we agreed on a price with the stipula- T west shore of Lake Tahoe when I tion that I would not part it out. I had eyed a maroon1978 MGB roadster by planned on giving the ‘78 to my son the roadside with a “for sale” sign on as a wedding present, but he politely it. After a call to the owner, followed declined due to his 6’5” frame and his by a test drive, I just couldn’t resist inability to drive a stick shift. I wound buying it. I spent a year or so restoring up selling it to a gentleman in Florida it, and then I would drive it around and reinvesting the proceeds from the the lake on weekends. Unfortunately, sale into the restoration of the ’76. MGB Stromberg Carburetors are quite When I bought the 1976 MGB, fussy little devils, especially at high the odometer showed less than 22,000 altitudes like Lake Tahoe (6,200 feet). miles, which I was very suspicious of. Eventually I brought it down to the I had the car towed to my mechanic, Bay Area where it performed much at Collins Classics in Burlingame, and better at sea level. he assured me that the piston com- In 2012, I noticed one of the pression of 130 psi per cylinder was members from the MG Owners Club consistent with a car of this mileage. of Northern California had advertised With the help of Collins Classics, a 1976 MGB for sale in their monthly the mechanicals were sorted out and newsletter. The previous owner had restored to working order. After that, posted, “had no time to properly care I shipped the car off to the paint shop for the car and needed room in my for a re-spray. Since the exterior color garage for the Jaguar.” It had a few was orange with a black interior, and dents and dings, a faded orange paint the San Francisco Giants had just won job and it just barely drove. But it had a world championship in 2012, I de- 20 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 21 cided to keep the original color scheme to club meetings, road tours, and local to honor our hometown champions. car shows whenever I can. We recently The black interior was next, receiving won first place at the Dixon All British all new carpets, dashboard, steering Car and in the Danville All MG show Letters to the Editor wheel and door cards. I added 15” in the late MGB class. Robert, contrast to the Bronco unit, functions the Panasport wheels and new tires to Of course I get plenty of “high The Mazda MX5 celebrated twenty same as the MG valve. The bronco valve is improve the looks and smooth out the fives” from my fellow SF Giants fans five years of production in 2014 longer actually opens and closes opposite to the ride. For the finishing touch, I in- when driving around town. I even get than the MGB… “So what I can hear the MG valve. —Larry Brough stalled a four-speaker stereo system to an occasional nod from our East Bay members say”. However there is a connec- make the car sound as good as it looks. Oakland A’s fans. Someday I would tion with these two cars The Mazda was In January of this year I reconnected love to drive around the infield at designed to replace the MGB market when with the previous owner and sent him AT&T Park with “Lou Seal,” the Giants the Abingdon production ended. One of a few photos of my finished work. The mascot in tow. However, driving it in the main designers of the Mazda was also response I got from him was, “SIMPLY the next San Francisco Giants World a keen supporter of MG the late John Shute AWESOME!” Series Championship Parade down who had one of the largest collections of Recently I added black decal rac- Market Street would be even better! MGs in the world. MG Heater Control Valve ing strips along the Like the MGB in the early 1960s, the sideboards, and I can Mazda was a success the first time the Dear Editor, now declare the resto- car hit the dealers’ showrooms on both I have been around the MG car for a very ration to be complete. sides of the water. Without doubt this long time. So I’m very familiar with the My orange and black was the type of car that MG should have shortcomings of the MGB Heater Control British 1976 MGB built in the 1970s. Instead the controlling Valve. As pointed out in the latest edition roadster has been management put their faith and resources of The MG Driver publication. However, given a new lease into the Triumph TR7, a gamble that the MG Midget on the other hand has no on life. It’s been a never paid off. It is interesting to note that such problem. In the 36 years that I have fantastic way to enjoy at the British Goodwood Festival of Speed owned my Midget, I have replaced the all the scenic back- this year a MG Midget was included on the single rubber O-ring inside of my valve but roads that the San Mazda display stand in company with the on time. Francisco Bay Area MX 5. —Geoff Wheatley There was a downside too this very simple has to offer. I drive it and reliable design. When I was selling I’m not a huge Miata fan because it new MG cars at British Motors of Sacra- just doesn’t seem to have a personal- mento, before handing the new car over ity like a MG, but I have to tip my hat to the owner, I would go over the complete to Mazda because they did produce operation of the new vehicle. You can an amazing product. imagine the scene in the new car delivery area, where yours truly had just sold a Robert, new Midget to a young lady (Emphasiz- Thanks much for the recent article about ing the sex appeal of a new MG sports the heater control valves. I’ve never liked car). Now I had to show the operation these as used on both the MGAs and Bs. of the heater control system to someone That said, I have found another valve that wearing a tight dress and 4-inch heels. Yes may, in fact, work better than the Ford Bronco unit referenced in the article. This valve was used in AMC Gremlins/Hornets 1970- 72 and is available through local auto parts stores. I purchased this one at Auto Zone. This metal valve is manufactured by Everco and is their PN 74682. It cost a bit over $40.00. It has two advantages over the Bronco valve, it has the right hand threaded nipple and, in Ron Koreniewski

22 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 23 you have to open the hood, lean into the I was excited to get this issue of The MG engine bay, and physically turn the valve Driver because I knew that there would on or off. be a picture of me and my son from MG MG 2015 Niagra Falls Canada I did not get any complaints at all about 2014. I was a bit bummed to see that our By Peter Mittler, MG Car Club Toronto this set up. The owners were always awe picture on page 49 has us listed as Troy struck by their new MG Sports Car. Spang and “Graham Cooper”. They made of neat things to just drive around and Respectfully Submitted, —Paul Lewis the same mistake at the awards banquet see. Many of these will be viewable on and I corrected them, but I guess they one of our three self-directed drive. There are a lot of DIY fixes that install never corrected the info before passing it that kind of manual switch on a MGB on to you. The poor kid’s first MG award Casinos: Casino Niagara and Fallsview: and it makes a lot of sense because and his name was missed twice! It should Does this need any explanation? Lynn I’ve never had any luck with my con- have said “Troy Spang and Jacoby Spang”. B says not. trol knobs. The only plus has been that we have nicknamed him “Coop” around the house The Welland Canal: Discover the Hello, now! amazing feat of engineering that Attached are some pics of me and my Thanks for listening. —Troy Spang opened up the St Lawrence Seaway to 1973 MGB at the entrance to Onaway the upper Great Lakes. State Park, located in the northern lower peninsula of Michigan. Our start point Bird Kingdom: Discover the world’s was Hendersonville, Tennessee. The largest indoor, free flying aviary with round-trip was 1530 miles, with the “B” over 400 exotic birds from around the delivering 27.3 mpg, and used less than a world, as well as incredible reptiles quart of oil. ou’re sitting down at the table and more. There are nine specialty It’s not a daily driver, but it is an errand discussing next year’s vacation areas to explore in this ‘awe’ inspiring runner and gets driven most weekends. Al- Y plans. One of you wants to do kingdom. most always, when I come out of a store, the ‘MG’ thing and the other says…. someone is standing by the car, usually c’mon, we’ve done enough of those Butterfly Conservatory: With more someone who owned one way back when. events; let’s do something “different”. than 2,000 colorful tropical butterflies Sometimes, it’s someone who would like to Why don’t you both have your cake floating freely among lush, exotic blos- buy one; sometimes a current MG owner and eat it too? soms and greenery, chances are good or owner of some other marque – instant The Niagara Falls region of Can- that your kids will leave a little more common ground, always an extended ada is so packed full of things to do appreciative of these winged wonders. conversation. and see that both of you will be hard Trip advisor reviewers put this attrac- Chores aren’t chores when I take the “B”, pressed to see it all in a week. Natural tion at 4.5 out of 5! and I don’t care if they take longer than wonders like The Falls, The Rapids, The they should because it has started a con- Gorge, all parts of the Niagara Parks Clifton Hill: More than 30, super- versation. Happy motoring! Commission, plus man-made wonders exciting, spellbinding attractions Regards, —Ron Korzeniewski like The Welland Canal and The But- and restaurants are worthy of a day’s Troy Spang • Jacoby Spang terfly Conservatory, entertainment adventure in itself. Wax figures of Northern Michigan is great. I would 1st Place Funkana Champions! such as wax museums, magic shows, movie stars, Guinness World Records love to have a NAMGBR convention Marineland and Game Park, Water- and favorite places to eat make this trip up there one of these days! Sorry about that Troy and Coop (just parks, SPAS, shopping, and wineries a no-brainer. kidding Jacoby!) Hopefully we’ll see – and, of course, TWO Casinos. All Hello Robert, you both again many times in the Fort George National Historic Site: years ahead. of this in in addition to the program we are putting together for you and (Niagara-on-the-Lake) See re-enact- will be available in October at www. ments of historic War of 1812 battles mg2015.com. Check out the website and meet costumed interpreters who for many more suggestions, but here will tell you all about what life was like are just a few: 200 years ago. Who won? You decide!

Hornblower Niagara Cruises: Journey Journey Behind the Falls: Hear the right to the base of the falls. Enough raw, rumbling power of thousands of said. DO IT! tons of fresh water crashing down 13 storeys as you follow tunnels behind Paula & Steven Ward from Dallas, Texas with their 1980 MGB V8 in French Lick, IN ~ MG 2014 Niagara Parks Attractions: Hundreds the Horseshoe Falls. Stand within just 24 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 25 a few meters of this great force - you Ripley’s Believe It or Not Museum: Be- will never forget it! lieve the unbelievable! Explore exhib- its featuring wax sculptures, historic Marineland Canada: Creatures of the feats and creepy artefacts! You’re sure sea are the main attractions here, but to see something incredible here. don’t forget about the thrilling Sky Screamer™, the world’s highest triple- Skylon Tower: Reach new heights by tower ride, taking you more than 137 having a family buffet dinner atop Ni- meters (450 feet) skyward! agara’s most famous landmark…right next to the Falls. Niagara Falls Illumination: See the Falls like never before - as a rushing Passports: Unless you have an En- rainbow of colors. This awesome at- hanced Driver’s License, you will need traction has been delighting audiences one. Check out the information here: for over 80 years! cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/whti-pro- gram-background Niagara’s Fury: The sensory experi- ence of a lifetime is what this thunder- So there you have it. Niagara Falls ous Niagara attraction is. After you sur- is a tourist destination. With our MaG- vive the Fury, you will appreciate the ic in Niagara Falls program added your majesty and wonder of the Horseshoe vacation destination for June 2015 is Falls and nature’s impact on Earth a no-brainer. Visit www.mg2015.com through new eyes. again, call the Americana or the Ra- mada Hotels to book your Hotel room Niagara SkyWheel: It’s the ultimate now (do not try to do it online as we Ferris wheel! The family-sized gondola have blocked all the rooms and they will swing you up, high above the trees appear sold-out – but they are not) and for a panoramic view of the thunder- register in October 2014. ing falls, any time of year. Follow us: On our website mg2015.com Nightmares Fear Factory: You can be On the MG2015 forum on the MG totally freaked out anytime of the year Experience — at this Niagara Falls landmark. Don’t mgexp.com/phorum/list.php?77 believe how spooky it really is? Check On the NAMGBR Facebook page out the Survivor Gallery! facebook.com/groups/93904199065/ Safety Fast! The MG 2015 Committee of the MGCCT

26 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 27 These are the main color wires. a light? Or does the light socket have There are some others but they have current and if not, does the fuse and Basic MG: Electrical System very specific uses which I will not then the switch? By Barry Rosenburg, Peachtree MG Register • [email protected] cover now. But, let’s look at a simple It does not matter which way you circuit in your car. Following the check as long as you check at all the current from your battery, it first goes connections. If you found current at to a junction that is usually a connec- every place with your test light, then tion on the starter solenoid and from use a short piece of wire with two clips there it becomes the brown wire. One on it to supplement the ground at the branch goes to your light switch. You item being tested, a lot of times the turn the switch on and the current only problem is a bad ground. Once comes out of the switch first as a red/ you look at your wiring, it becomes green wire. This goes to your dash intuitive about how it works. Wiring lights without going thru a fuse. An- diagrams for almost all of our cars are other red/green wire goes to the fuse on the internet in color. Look yours up panel where it goes thru the fuse and and see if you can follow it. to the parking lights as solid red. The problem is very seldom in A second click on your the wire itself but it can happen. light switch sends This is why you check every current out a blue wire where it goes to the dimmer switch. From there, it splits into N/R and N/U which becomes your headlamp wiring, one high and the other am sure that this is something I fuse panel, coil, and fuel pump (when low beams. After the have discussed before but there still electric pump is fitted). current goes thru seems to be some problems with I The main solid colors are: the lights, it goes to LBC electrical systems. Let me try to ground and back to simplify it for yall. Think of it like this: Brown, hot from the battery, works the battery. power goes from the hot side of the everything that comes on with the key Now, when one battery (ignore the difference between off such as lights. Designated as N circuit fails, how do + and -- ground for now) thru a wire to Purple, hot from the battery but thru a you know what the a switch, electrical component or fuse fuse it works everything that comes on problem is? Unless and then to ground; where it goes back with key off but is fused, such as horn you are familiar with to the battery. and interior lights. Designated as P the electrical system, All old British cars are the same White, hot from the battery but thru start with either the electrically. The British used the same the ignition switch and goes to items first place the item color wires for the same purpose on all like fuel pump, coil, and fuse panel. gets current, the bat- their cars so let me remind you of this. Designated as W tery or the last place Wires are either solid colors or have a Green, hot from the battery, thru the current goes before different color tracer on them. When ignition switch and thru a fuse and going to ground. Us- designating the color of the wire, the works everything that needs the key ing a simple 12 volt main color always comes first, exam- on to work such as wipers, brake lights, test light (cheaply ple N/W is brown with white tracer. heater. Designated as G purchased at Harbor Solid colors are generally the cur- Red, thru the light switch, goes to the Freight) start look- rent supply wire. They take the current fuse panel as R/G where it goes to the ing for current at from the source, be it the battery or parking lights. Designated as R each junction. Does fuse panel or ignition switch, and send Blue, hot thru the light switch also, the battery have 12 it to some component. An example is goes to the headlamps thru a dimmer volts, does it go to the ignition switch; it takes current switch where it works high and low the switch and then from a solid brown wire and sends it beams. Designated as U to a fuse and then to out as current thru a white wire to the Black, always ground. Designated as B 28 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 29 junction to make sure some little crit- but it is not permanent. And you never it drips off. Did I mention you should blow them out. No harm is done. ter has not dined on your harness. Of see wire nuts twisted on wires from do this over a baking tray? If not, you Once the corn becomes husk has course it gets a little more complicated the manufacture. should. Now pull the husk back over become quite crisp all the way around, than this but all you do is think logi- Now, for those not the ear and smooth it out to cover as remove the corn from the grill. Care- cally and follow the flow of current. interested in some of much of the kernels as you can. Taking fully, it is hot, peel back the husk and Like your water at home: it comes into the best corn on the long pieces of husk that came off, tie trim it off to about three inches. You the house thru a meter; then a pres- cob you can eat, stop these around the small end of the ear can tie this off to act as a handle using sure valve; then a faucet; then your reading now and to hold the husk together. On a medi- string or other unburnt pieces of husk hose and finally out the nozzle to the I hope to see yall um hot grill, lay the covered ears down left over. Baste the corn again with the ground. If the water stops, you follow somewhere soon. in a row and cook for about 20 to 25 butter mixture and bite in. Juicy, moist each junction to see what is wrong. If you like corn minutes, turn them frequently as they and flavorful are the words that will Other than the hose kinking, it is the on the cob, read brown. Some small fires may erupt come to mind. same as electrical flow, electrical cables on. Take some from the husk getting dried out so just do not kink. butter; add salt, The best tools to diagnose prob- pepper, garlic, lems is a good 12 volt test light and a oregano, dill, continuity tester. I have a great one and any other from Radio Shack that buzzes when spice or herb you have continuity. The other tool you like and I use is nothing more than a simple melt together buzzer with a 9 volt battery. I can jump in microwave between the two ends of a wire and and let sit to see if the circuit is working. When all cool and blend is good, I hear the buzzer. Always test flavors. Just be- your test light on a known good source fore using, add of current before beginning testing, lime zest and they do go bad occasionally. the juice and Wiring can be simple but it still mix well. takes a lot of time to test each junction Take the and circuit. You need patience when corn and care- doing it. You never should need to fully peel back splice in a piece of wire unless the orig- the husk but inal has shorted and fried. If you do, not off and re- DO NOT use phone cord, speaker wire move the silk. or household extension cords. Get the Now, baste the correct wire and terminals. Twisting corn with the four wires together and covering with butter mixture electrical tape may work for a while very well, until

30 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 31 But my guess would be wrong ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas (sort of. . .) For he rose with a smile By Larry Brough And as he brushed himself off Asked to come in for a while. was the night before Christmas And the weather was poor. It was snowing so hard He stood by the fire It blew under the door. To warm himself up And some egg nog I offered, A visit from Santa He took a full cup. Was surely in doubt As I couldn’t really see As he finished his drink How he’d ever get out. I heard him explain, “Those darn SU carbs I dropped into my bed Were really to blame. But could not find any sleep. “How will Santa ever manage They froze up solid With the snow so deep?” Because of the cold. To go out this bad night I rolled in my bed I should not have been so bold. For some sleep to find, But just couldn’t relax But it’s Christmas you know My poor restless mind. And I have a duty To deliver these gifts Then all of a sudden Cause they are not my booty. I heard a big crash And I saw on the lawn Can I borrow some transport A sleigh that was smashed. To continue my trip? There are no homes this night And instead of reindeer That I really can skip.” Pulling the sleigh There were eight British cars So I handed to Santa Smashed like papier-mâché. The keys to my car. “Be sure to buy gas There was Sunbeam, and Triumph Or you won’t get very far.” And MG and Mini And Morgan and Singer And Austin and Healey

The cars were all crumpled And piled up in a heap But were almost buried I was sure he would make it Since the snow was quite deep. Cause my car was brand new. My Range Rover was tough Poor Santa was stirring And I knew he’d get through. To get out of the mess To say he was unhappy The smile on his face Would have been my guess. As he drove out of sight, Told me for sure It would be a good night.

32 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 33 centerfold

Watkins Glen Vintage Grand Prix and Tour de Marque By Jack Long

BGT is reportedly the factory MG entry for the 1967 Sebring 12 hour endurance race . All photos on this centerfold provided by Jack Long. Jack by provided All photos on this centerfold

atkins Glen is a small village MG TC, organized what became the spectators to the area. More recently, every year as the featured Marque for a at the foot of Seneca Lake in first Watkins Glen Grand Prix over a NASCAR has made Watkins Glen a series of events that include a reenact- W upstate New York. It was fa- course laid out on public roads and popular stopping point on their an- ment of the original races on the old, mous in the early 20th century for its through the village’s main street. The nual stock car circuit. public road course. For 2014, MG was scenic gorge with a series of waterfalls, event caught on immediately and by In the early 1990s, an effort began the featured marque. which is now Watkins Glen State Park, the mid-1950s a purpose-built race to host a vintage racing event at the As evidence of the enthusiasm of and was a popular tourist destination. track was constructed outside of town. track and involve the town in reliv- MG owners, the 2014 event was sold After World War II, tourism declined From 1960 to 1980, the US Grand Prix ing some of its history. This led to the out by mid-January – the earliest one until a young attorney from the area, was held at the Watkins Glen track, annual Tour de Marque, in which a of these events have ever sold out. who was looking for a place to race his drawing hundreds of thousands of different manufacturer is selected For the 130 lucky MG drivers who Hank Rippert and Brian Woodhams, MGCC of England N.A. Manager, next to Hank’s TD. Burt Levy and Alan Magnuson, Burt shared racing stories at the MMM dinner Thursday night. All photos on these two pages provided by Alan Magnuson. by provided pages All photos on these two got tickets, we were treated to a great many days at the Glen back in my anger by the likes of Sir Jackie Stewart, straight up, some tight esses into weekend full of events celebrating youth, crewing for friends who were James Hunt, Niki Lauda, and Gilles the famous Stone Bridge, and then the history of this town and its races. club racers and working as a flagman, Villeneuve. three miles straight down including a We all reported early on Friday to an but I had never had the chance to drive After our track laps, we then drove railroad grade crossing. Going down aviation museum near Corning for the track. One thing that I never really into town and lined up on the main “Big Bend” back into town, using third coffee and refreshments, followed by noticed until driving it is the major street. We were amazed to see thou- gear and gingerly pumping my brakes, a spirited scenic drive (with a police elevation changes. Entering the esses, sands of people lining the street, with I could not help but think of the rac- escort and closed intersections!) to it looks like you are starting up a roller their lawn chairs and barbeque grills, ers back in the day that came down the race track for a buffet lunch. After coaster – the same with the “toe” of waiting to watch the show. After a that same hill in fast cars with skinny lunch, we were treated to two laps on the boot section added in the 1960s. It few speeches, we were flagged off for tires and drum brakes, with their foot the full Formula One circuit in our was really exhilarating to drive my MG two laps of the original road course, mashed hard down on the gas pedal. MGs. I grew up in the area and spent on the same track that was driven in which to me seemed to be three miles The thought gives me chills.

1934 MG K3 Magnette,1934 24 Hours of Le Mans 4th place, Charlie MartinRoy Eccles team, Collier Collection 1968 MGB GT Sebring and Targa Florio, Ralph Zbarsky (owner), son, and Brian Woodhams.

36 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 37 MG Vintage Racers Set Records in SVRA’s “Collier Cup” By Greg Prehodka, MGVR lmost 100 racing MGs from all Select race cars – including most of the over North America, showed up MGs – were given a police escort over A at the Sportscar Vintage Rac- the original 6.6 mile street race course, ing Association’s (SVRA) US Vintage (from 1948 to 1952) and parked on Grand Prix, the weekend of September main street in Watkins Glen (which 4-7, for racing competition, camara- was shut down to traffic). Thousands derie, and parties, plus street events of spectators roamed the streets in- in the town of Watkins Glen, New specting the race cars, chatting with York. Overall there were over 400 race their drivers, and just having a good cars competing! MG was the featured old time (and maybe a few brewskies), marque in racing, car shows, and ral- then escorted back to the track. This lies this weekend. NAMGAR, BARC, town LOVES MGs, and race cars! 1962 MGA Sebring Coupe - Joe Gunderson, Andy Steinbock, Brian Woodhams, and the MMM register also made this Saturday more racing in classes as Piers and Linda Hubbard. a gathering for their groups. This was rain threatened, but it held off most the 30th running of SVRA’s “Collier of the day. A group photos was also After our laps of the old circuit, we SVRA races at the track, and parking Cup” race for MGs and the 60th anni- taken of the MG race drivers, with parked our cars in the town park for in a special MG Car Corral. Overall it versary of the Collier Brothers Memo- #53 MGTD centered. It is the only MG spectators to inspect, and headed back was a great weekend, a chance to share rial Trophy race (an SCCA award) was from the inaugural Collier Cup race to the main drag to wet our whistles. a rare opportunity with fellow MG also celebrated. of 1985, still racing in the Collier Cub It was a very warm day for September, drivers from all over, and a chance to The Collier brothers - Sam and today (by Rachel Prehodka-Spindel but the local pubs were quite happy to watch some excellent vintage racing Miles - were MG racing pioneers in now). That evening the MG Vintage relieve our thirst. Late in the after- (and these guys do race!). It may be a the US from the 1930s to the 1950s. Racers held their own dinner at the noon, the vintage race cars came down while until MG gets their turn again, Sam died in a Ferrari crash in 1950 track’s Media Center, where a sellout from the track and lined up on the but when that year comes I highly and Miles from polio in 1954. Both of audience of 220 MG enthusiasts en- main street for inspection and photog- recommend this event. Just remem- these awards are in their memory and joyed an awards dinner together. Spe- raphy, and then were flagged off for ber to apply early, like the day after for their contribution to MG racing. cial guest Brian Woodhams, the MG their own very spirited laps of the old the previous year’s event. Next year’s There is a special stone marker on the Car Club UK Overseas Manager, joined course, much to the crowd’s delight. featured marque is Austin-Healey, so original street course for them, where them for the weekend and spoke at the Tour de Marque tickets also all you Sprite drivers need to jump on a memorial ceremony was held on dinner. included a free weekend pass to the this now. Friday. Sunday was featured race day. Practice began on Thursday fol- Due to the number of MGs entered, lowed by a MG Vintage Racers social the Collier Cup race for MGs was split gathering in the paddock that evening up into two races: the “Kimber Cup” for MG races and crews, at the MGVR for MG T-Series cars and older MGs Hospitality Center (which was open (1955 and older) and the “Thornley all weekend to everyone) as old racing Cup” for 1956 and newer MGs. These friends lifted elbows and shared mem- MG races drew the largest crowds of ories, while “Chef Lou” BBQ’ed steaks the weekend! It was amazing to re-live and chicken for everyone! Friday was the days of when MGs ruled the race more practice and qualifying, as rac- tracks! What an impressive sight to ers learned their racing lines and got see and hear the roar of all these MGs their lap times down. A select group in competition! And in MG tradition, of racers were also escorted to historic their racing all weekend long was acci- “Smalley’s Garage” in downtown Wat- dent free – in the spirit of “Safety Fast”. kins Glen for a re-enactment of the old They know and respect each other! way race car technical inspection use MGVR does not promote race win- to be conducted. ning, but rather racing fun and cama- Friday afternoon was special. raderie. These MGs vary significantly

38 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 39 in their potential, so winning is not the goal. A good “dice” is always cherished! Here are some of the significant awards given out by SVRA and MGVR: Collier Cup, Best All-Around MG Racer voted by racing peers at the event to Alan Costich Fuel Pump Problems By Dave Braun, Minnesota MG Group MGVR Spirit Award (Selected as the “Spirit of MG Vintage Racing) Bob Watkins (retired MGA racer). John Target 612 Trophy (For first 4-cylinder MGB) – Alan Tosler Bill Parish Award: (MG racer having the most FUN!) – Ralph Zbarsky, MGB Kimber Cup (Collier-1) Race Winner: Manley Ford, MGTD Thornley Cup (Collier-2) Race Winner: Alan Tosler, MGB Jack Archibald T Cup: first MG ‘T’, Manley Ford, MGTD Bucher Decker Trophy: for first MGA: Dawn Myers Glanville Trophy: for first Midget: Peter Uzdavinis Denver Cornett Trophy: (SVRA First Overall) Alan Tosler MG-V8 Trophy: (MGVR first overall) Alan Tosler On a personal note, I raced the inaugural Collier Cup race in 1985, and now I was proudly passing the torch to my daughter Rachel as she raced my MGTD in this year’s race, and loving it! This is becoming a wonderful growing tradition in MG vintage racing, with more parent/child racers now participating!

On the hard surface of the parking garage, the borrowed scissor jack worked pretty well. But the two tires stacked under the chassis made me feel much more secure.

ecently, I casually mentioned electrical was going on, and I decided that Diane had reported that it was ignition related. R Maggie, her 1970 MGB Wire A week or so before we were to Wheel Conversion that Turned Into leave, I scheduled some quality time a Restoration, had quit in full stride with my second best girl, and soon coming home from one of her MG Maggie’s distributor was on the bench lunches. Maggie has done this three where I reset the dwell by adjusting the times in the past since her restoration, points to a 0.015 inch gap making sure twice while I was present, and each a 0.014 feeler gauge would slip in and time she has restarted within minutes, a 0.016 would not. You have to be a bit literally. Since we were preparing to careful doing this because it is easy to attend MG 2014 the NAMGBR conven- push the rubbing block off the points tion in French Lick, Indiana, I spent cam during this test, so I find it easier some time making sure that the igni- to do the setting on the bench rather tion system was up to snuff because than in the position the distributor I was pretty certain that the problem is in while on the engine. Reinstall- would be in this system given the ing the distributor and setting up Previous Owners’ Pertronix conver- my Dwell Tach showed the points sion in the distributor had shorted out were dwelling closed for a total of 60 and burned the white wire from the degrees which is pretty much what the ignition switch to the coil. Of course MG factory suggested when they built all of this was fixed the best I could the car. during the restoration, including Next I opened the valve cover and replacing the wire in the harness and reset the valves. I had to remove the adapting some new connectors to the spark plugs first, so I slipped my home- All the way up from North Carolina, the back of the tachometer for the sensing made spark plug stop into the hole greatest MG fans arrive at Watkins Glen, NY.. loop, but in the back of my mind I was for number one and determined the George deWalter (right), and John Rachow. thinking something intermittently exact Top Dead Center for the engine

40 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 41 by turning the engine against the stop neither of us is fond of traveling in the boot with the break aligned on the re- for intervention (tapping on the side) in one direction, and then turning closed cockpit in the rain. We made it mains of the spark plug. I asked Diane when in the past it would restart on its it against the stop in the other direc- as far as Waterloo, Iowa, and stopped to pull out the choke and start the car, own accord. But then I remembered tion, and marking both points on my for the evening. We actually had to which it did, but it would not continue that fuel pumps will do that when the front pulley. The exact center between wear sweat shirts and jackets because without choke, so I knew the fuel level surface of the points start degrading the two marks is the TDC position, of the chill in the air, and at some was very low in the float bowls, and and the throw of the armature to the something that is hard to measure point I even flipped on my heated seat! the venturi effect over the bridge of diaphragm is not matched to the state at TDC because of the geometry of It was a similar story leaving Waterloo, the carburetor was not strong enough of the points, but this will be a gradual converting translational piston mo- which we did about 10am. Our plan to pick up the fuel until the opening effect. Eventually, the points and the tion to rotational crankshaft motion. was to get to Champaign, Illinois, by was increased during the choke, or throw are so out of whack that the As I recalled, when I did this last time, evening, and we were adamant about more properly, enrichment action. throw over becomes problematic and the indicator mark under the engine staying on two lane roads as much as Diane has a clear billet fuel filter on normal bumps in the road no longer shows TDC at about 2-degrees before possible. Our motto for the trip was Maggie, which was full of fuel. That momentarily solve the problem; at TDC, and this was still the case. I was “You can’t see this from the Interstate” can be deceptive as a lack of fuel pres- least that was my working hypoth- doing all this because my Top Sided which of course proved to be true more sure may leave fuel in the filter, but it esis. The fuel pump is the one piece Timing scale from Jeff Schlemmer had than once. no longer sends of equipment I departed the pulley early on after the The engine quit for the first time it on its way into didn’t go through restoration and I wanted to put on a eleven miles out of Waterloo. Based on the float bowls. when we rebuilt new one. I carefully placed the self my certainty that the problem was go- With the igni- Maggie from dark adhesive timing scale on the pulley, ing to be in the ignition system, with tion still in the British racing pressing it down well. Next, with the me I had extra points; my test lamp ‘run’ position I green over black, aid of the Top Sided Timing scale and and my volt-ohm meter; jumper and crawled under to old English its 32-degrees BTDC mark, I timed alligator clamp equipped wires; and the car, gave white over red, the engine for an all-in mechanical black electricians’ tape. I also brought the fuel pump because it was a advance of that value. I don’t have a my inexpensive ratchet drive and a a sharp whack new pump. New dial back timing light, so I could have spark plug wrench. I managed to pull with the side as in 2005, when put a mark on the pulley 12-degrees over on a safe spot (we were on one of of my pocket the last one gave before the original scribe mark and the few interstate like roads we would knife and was up and Diane timed that mark to the 20-degrees be on for the trip as we transitioned greeted with the and her son Jay BTDC mark on the front cover, but from Waterloo to our next two lane familiar ‘tick replaced it. Time that entails crawling under the car adventure) and tore into the system. tick tick’. Soon had flown faster This time the top sided timing We cranked the car, it wouldn’t start, we were retrac- than I thought. scale lasted just long enough to time but good spark and voltage was ev- ing our route I talked things the engine, and then I saw it depart, erywhere we expected it to be. I even into Waterloo to over quickly on flying away towards the driver’s side. pulled the spark plugs and managed replace the bro- the phone with It landed on the driveway because I’m only for the second time in my life to ken spark plug. both Dave DuBois doing this outside as the garage is too break a spark plug insulator, the first I bought four of SU Fuel Pump full of a partially completed Sammy, time being when I set the valves on of the NGKs, rebuilding fame, the Spitfire that Followed Me Home. Maggie after the recent engine rebuild, gapped them and Rick Ingram I discovered that the adhesive had so I was running three of the Cham- in the store of Champaign, pulled the paint clear off the pulley. pion N9Y and one NGK BP6ES. Maggie to 0.030 and The top half of the contact points can be removed Illinois, fame; and The trouble is that the pulley is fairly never seemed to care, but none the managed to not from this position. To clean the bottom set of points, made plans to rough, so rough that the adhesive only less, I had no spares. break any put- remove the two screws shown and pivot the pedestal get one of Dave’s made contact in about 30% of the Realizing that I had made my ting them in! at the hinge pin. It goes without saying to keep track optically trig- surface area the label covered. What I situation a bit more desperate, I was at Here is of the connections and not to put strain on them gered fuel pump need to do is smooth the pulley surface the same time pretty happy to know where I have when reassembling things. conversions with body filler, repaint, and get 100% it had to be carburetion or fuel pump. to eat some this winter, and surface adhesion. So now I have an- Carburetors don’t generally self-heal humble pie. In my last article, I made turned down Rick’s kind suggestion other future project! between problem events, so first I a very strong case for the intermit- to swing by and travel with his group Diane and I left late on Friday attended the broken insulator on the tent problem to not be fuel related. I because I wasn’t sure how many times afternoon for French Lick, because spark plug. I didn’t even bother to based it upon the assumption that a I would be stopping while traveling to weather reports showed that the tape it together; I simply jammed the balky fuel pump is not going to start French Lick, both because of the fuel Twin Cities would be inundated with broken end into the rubber boot of the working without intervention. In fact, pump and because “You can’t see this rainfall early Saturday morning, and spark plug lead and jammed the rubber it puzzled me that it was now asking from the Interstate” itinerary. But a

42 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 43 hazy plan was formulating in my brain the fuse block and it will be hot every opens the clamp impossible to get at, and then a full turn further counter- regardless. I did contact Moss Motors time you turn the key to the run posi- so I removed the clamp and the pump, clockwise. If you were careful not to and had a new fuel pump shipped to tion. The pumps are about $50 at most set up my jumper wires at the fuse rip any paper gaskets while taking our house because, as it was Saturday, auto parts stores, but make sure you block and the pump fired right up. I things apart, and if you preserved the and a pump would not be going out get one that is rated at about 2.5-3 psi clamped off the inlet and outlet with vinyl tape that seals the top cover and until Monday, I had no hope of a fuel or so, any more and you will blow fuel my thumb, and noted the strength of the coil, you can reassemble the pump pump catching up with us in Indiana. past the float needles and flood your the pump which wasn’t impressive. and test it again with the jumper The Moss pump would be my fall back carburetors. However, I wasn’t inter- Good, I had to tear it apart! A piece of wires at the fuse block. The 30 minute if I got irritated enough at the existing ested in this option, it felt too much OSB on the top of a crate would serve process yielded a significantly stronger pump to want to ship it to Dave right like a defeat, and the little square Facet as a work bench and a towel would pump action, and I was pretty pleased away, and I had forgotten that the pumps ‘click’ continuously which I help keep parts from scattering. You with myself, figuring I had solved our previous pump was still in the attic at figured would drive me nutty. The sec- can remove the front cover from an SU problem! home. ond option was to lower the fuel level Pump, and by noting carefully where The only fly in the ointment was We ended up getting out to tap the in the fuel tank (already accomplished the wires and ring terminals go, it is that after installing the pump, the wir- fuel pump about four more times, or with the drive to Spring Mill Park); easy to remove the top set of contact ing, the vent lines and the fuel lines every 100 miles or so on the rest of the safely jack up and support the passen- points and clean them. For this I had the pump was not interested in pump- trip. When we arrived in West Baden ger side of the car; pull the fuel pump the automotive points cleaning emery ing. Out came the electrical testing Springs adjacent and part of the French without spilling any gasoline which board normally located in Diane’s nail gear. I indeed had voltage at the white Lick Resort, I was feeling like the pump was possible with the car at an angle polish bag which I had taken with me wire at the pump when the ignition could always go again any minute and and a diminished fuel supply; clean when I quietly left the hotel room. For was on, but there was no discernable I knew a repair was in my immediate the points; reset the point throw; and some reason she declined to take it continuity at the black ground wire to future. And if you read anything into put everything back together. back when I the chas- my attitude towards such things, you I ran into Ron Acker in the garage, was finished sis. Luck- probably realize I was looking forward he had a wider assortment of tools with the ily, I had to the challenge. We still had about a than I had in Maggie’s boot and a scis- board. Real a small half tank of fuel on board, and to make sor jack which was the most important emery paper trouble my hazy plan work, I needed signifi- tool I was looking for. I could have would have light and cantly less than a quarter of a tank. On used the jack which came with the car been better, my new the twisty-turny roads to Spring Mill as Maggie’s jack points are as sturdy as but the board ‘mid- Park for dinner on Monday evening, the day she rolled off the Pressed Steel from the range’ the pump quit again which is sort of body assembly plant, but I don’t like nail polish bifocals embarrassing when you are the fourth the way the jack is exposed in use, and bag worked on. They car in line for the caravan. But with I was grateful for the scissor unit. Ken in a pinch. are a pair about 75 cars behind me, we were able DeLeeuw also strolled over to watch, as By undoing Using the piston stop I made from an old spark plug is a much of glasses to get the pump to join in again before he had never seen a ‘pumpectomy’ be- the screws better way to find TDC of the engine than guessing by looking at that work the last car went by so it was a small fore; and a plastic replacement pump at each side the timing marks. from close triumph, of sorts. was also offered to Maggie, but I was of the points up to The next morning was Diane’s pretty determined to set her existing pedestal the pedestal can be tipped about an arm’s reach, perfect for com- spa day and so I tiptoed out of the pump to rights. There was construc- aside, and the toggle end of the contact puter work or lying under a car looking room early in the morning intending tion going on in the area adjacent to points can be likewise serviced. Soon at wiring harnesses. The black ground to go over to the parking garage at the the ramp, and the crew had sand bags we had nice shiny points, but the wire joined the harness just by the French Lick Resort, and snag a few and sturdy boxes of equipment piled throw was anemic, so off came the six pump and appeared to head back to tools needed to safely do this job. My up with some oriented strand board screws at the base of the pump, not- the boot. Opening up the boot again options originally were to pull fuel lying nearby. I placed a sand bag in ing the orientation of the base to the and looking along the right hand side with a small Facet pump temporarily front of Maggie’s left front tire for a openings, and the coil end. To set the of the space revealed a double bullet mounted just before the carburetors. block, took Maggie’s spare out of her throw, you simply twist the rubber dia- connector with four black wires. One If you go this route, you need to match boot, jacked up her right side, took off phragm and armature clockwise into of them was the ground wire that was port sizes on the rubber hoses you her right rear wheel, and stacked both the toggle end of the point assembly attached to the sheet metal of the aft have, get a small extra rubber hose wheels as a support incase the jack until the points will no longer throw, boot panel, and the other three went to bridge the opening where you are failed, and placed them closer to the and then turn them counterclockwise to lights and other assemblies. The inserting the pump (without cut- rear of the car than the front. until depressing the diaphragm will only trouble was that one of the three ting any lines or hoses) and pick up a It took a few extra minutes to just rock over the points to full throw. wires was lying by itself next to the couple of small hose clamps, then, just remove the pump because the bracket Turn counterclockwise to the next bullet connector, and it happened to pick up a white power connection at was upside down, making the bolt that open hole alignment with the base, be the ground wire that went to the

44 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 45 When Oil Pressre is Too High By Robert Rushing he week gauge (ruin- before ing it perma- T MG 2014, nently) and I went over to caused one of Kansas City the oil cooler from St Louis for lines to start the Heartland blowing oil. MG Show. On Luckily, I was the way back, only a couple I noticed that of miles from my oil pressure home so was was a bit higher able to get it than normal. home with- It would get up out drama between 75 and (well, I had On the way to French Lick. Despite the minor difficulty on the road, Diane always seems to have a 100 pounds of to stop and great time. pressure, but get a photo of fuel pump. the trick though, and I replaced the would drop back my car under It had probably been this way blade the next morning. Luckily I had down at idle like the full moon since I installed the wiring harness. three spares with me because neither normal so I just for the Moss The grounds aren’t shown real well on of us could remember just how old the figured that it Challenge…). the wiring diagrams, and even if they blades on the car were, but we now was the oil filter Oil pressure is way too high. After were it is dark in that area and I prob- know how old the fuel pump is! Mag- or maybe just a thinking ably figured I had them all taken care gie did just over 1,700 miles and aver- bit of dirt occasionally clogging things about it for a bit, I realized the only of. After all, everything worked, right? aged 27 mpg which included speeding up. possible cause had to be the oil pres- The fuel pump was getting an inter- up and slowing down for a lot of little That week, I changed the oil and sure relief valve was jammed shut. I did mittent ground where it was mounted towns along the way, something the filter in preparation for the trip over a quick Google search and found one even though the body of the pump is overdrive in third gear helps nicely to French Lick. of John Twist’s held by a large rubber sleeve, and as with. We have already sent back the Two days before videos on oil time went on, the intermittent ground ‘extra’ SU Fuel Pump to Moss Motors, I left, Alan and pressure. He got a bit more dirt and corrosion, and and before the summer is out, I’ll crawl Laura Magnuson explained a bit less ability to return the current up into the attic and fetch down the were coming in the video to the battery. Eventually, going over other fuel pump. I’ll either order new through St Louis how oil travels a bump no longer reset the ground, points and a diaphragm for it and on their way to through the and we had to get out and tap the fuel rebuild it; or send it to Dave DuBois for the convention engine and pump to get the ground again. Clean- his optical trigger. I haven’t decided so I met up with how the oil ing the points of the excessive carbon yet, but I am the kind of guy who likes them for drinks pressure relief that had built up, and adjusting the to be able to fix something by the and took the B. valve works. If throw made the pump work much side of the road, and with the original On the way to the valve can’t better, but fixing the ground actually points system, I know I can. Diane also the restaurant, move back fixed the problem. has a nice limestone facsimile of the the oil pressure to let oil past Diane and I were rewarded with state of Indiana for her office, because again started ris- it and drain a trouble free drive home; unless you despite momentarily dropping out ing to the 75-100 back into the count the sudden rainstorm we were on an organized drive, and being pounds of pres- engine, the oil caught in by Rock Falls, Illinois, where ‘propped up’ for a time in the parking sure area and as pressure will we wisely decided to spend the night garage, enough people liked the stun- I got closer, the go up signifi- after the sudden departure of the cen- ning color combination Diane picked pressure began cantly and can ter wiper blade when I asked for help in out for Maggie that she was awarded to climb even blow oil seals. clearing the windscreen. The Rain-X third in her class of MGBs, and that’s a higher. So high This oil gauge is toast. This had to applied before leaving Minnesota did pretty cool reward in itself. it pegged the be it.

46 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 47 I got up bright when I pushed it in and early Saturday and out manually. So morning to get it fixed things looked ok and so I could actually it was time to put the Spare Parts By Dave Braun, Minnesota MG Group drive my car to the cap back on. Those of convention. I started you who have done by by-passing the oil this while the engine cooler with a spare is in place are starting oil cooler hose I had, to laugh right now. just running it from Two hours later, I the engine directly was about to give up. to oil filter bracket. I I called Robert Milner then put on a spare (who had driven in oil pressure gauge from California for that I borrowed from the convention) and John Mangles at All Simon Dix to see if British Car Repair and they could help. After tie-wrapped it to the a few tries, it was center panel. Next, The stuck plunger. obvious that the only it was time to try to way it was going on remove the pressure relief valve. was to get the exhaust out of the way. I I got the car up in the air and unbolted the exhaust from the header managed to get the valve cap off and and the brackets towards the front of the spring out, but the valve plunger the exhaust so it would drop down would not come out. I tried for several some and was able to pull it out of the hours with no luck. I finally went way. I reached up and was easily able searching through my grandfather’s to compress the spring and screw the old tools and found an odd-sized pressure relief valve cap back on. All tap that seemed about same size as those hours of trying were for nothing the plunger. I put it in and carefully – I could have done it in 15 minutes if I screwed it in, letting the tap bite into wouldn’t have been so lazy about pull- the plunger, clamped the back of the ing the exhaust! tap with a pair of vice grips, and start- Long story short, I got the car ed pulling. It took several minutes, but running and was able to drive it to it finally broke free and French Lick without ILLUSTRATION: BGASTUDIOS.COM TECHNICAL INC MOTORS, DRAWING: MOSS came out. Looking at any more drama. I was the plunger I could see able to source a good pare parts are both easy and dif- When I started in the hobby, the a large gouge along the used oil pressure gauge ficult to find for our cars. Easy, be- MG Company was selling cars and side where obviously a from Paul Dierschow at S cause as one of the most popular spares under the guise of British Ley- bit of metal got wedged Sports Car Craftsmen makes of sport cars in the world, there land. Leyland Motors had purchased between it and the port (the king of good used are many vendors supplying replace- Standard-Triumph and then merged wall, jamming it in parts!) in Arvada, Colo- ment parts, and many distributors are with the British Motor Corporation place and preventing rado. The issue doesn’t warehousing, cataloging, and shipping (the owners of Austin, Morris, MG and the over-pressurized appear to have caused those parts. Difficult, because some other makes). You could go to Hansord oil to push past it. any permanent damage. parts are of low demand, or the tooling Pontiac in Minneapolis or Young Mo- I cleaned out the I’ve driven several hun- for the parts are non-existent, and so tors in Saint Paul and look at Jaguar, passage, but never dred miles since and these parts are almost unobtainable. Triumph, and yes, MGs in one show found the tiny hunk of have even autocrossed Restoration and repair requires parts to room. In the back of those showrooms metal that did all this the car. All I know is repair parts, replacement parts, and ac- were service departments where you damage. I didn’t have that now in addition to ceptable alternatives. Paying the ‘right’ could get original equipment manu- a new valve so I had to being paranoid about price and installing ‘almost correct’ facturer (OEM) parts, in boxes with pull one from an old low oil pressure, I will parts can be a challenge. Finally, spares the Girling, Lucas, BL, or left over BMC engine. I put it in and it The gouge in the plunger shows what also be paranoid about can be of dubious quality, so knowing logos on them. Today, such parts are seemed to move freely caused the problem. high oil pressure! what you are getting is important. called New Old Stock (NOS) meaning

48 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 49 that they are new (never used) parts, Most of our club members can but of old stock and in theory were ev- remember when there wasn’t an Inter- ery bit as good as what was on the car net, and an 800 number was the way new. Not that every spare part was as one communicated long distance to good, or even perfectly fitting, during buy parts. We would also scour Hem- this period as suppliers changed and mings, Old Car Weekly, and Road & Track OEMs looked for universal replace- for vehicles, supplies, and parts and ac- ments. cessories. Letters Certainly, were the method finding parts at used when the dealer for my you wanted to MG TD was not make sure your possible, unless order was crystal it was a universal clear. Later, I joint (the same can remember Hardy Spicer teaching people units used on the how to create last MGB would facsimile lead fit a T-Series) sheets in order to or some other transmit copies common part. of papers across MG TD parts the country. Fac- After Maggie’s ignition circuit short, the tachometer needed parts for cleaning out the smoke A used clutch master cylinder and a New Old Stock were available by simile eventually released inside. Picking through a local used parts recycler like Quality Coaches is a great way to (NOS) repair kit ready for assembly. mail or phone got shortened to find the replacement parts. order from a ‘FAX’ and then company in Goleta, California, named gave way to on-line ordering. The in- able technicians and an impressive they in turn have provided to someone Moss Motors. Their catalog was a thing ternet has served a few other purposes array of used, hard to find parts, a to keep a car intact, from suspension of beauty, and many a TC, TD, and too, it has made it much easier to share phone call to Quality is usually a good parts to half an interior or two. TF were assembled using their parts information with other enthusiasts; place to start when looking for a spare. Another place to get ideas for breakdown as a guide. They provided reduce your personal stockpile of Their used prices are usually calculated sources and parts are our club activi- reprinted Workshop Manuals, and parts by offering them to people who as half of the Moss Motors retail price, ties. A well placed question will usual- also clever accessories for our cars seemed to need them more; and has and since they are a pretty large dealer ly direct you to someone who has been from the MG Mitten car cover to nifty given rise to photo-sites (with an assist for Moss, you can make a deal or two there before and is more than happy to helmets and goggles. Abingdon Spares from digital cameras) that chronicles for your project if you are ordering share their sources. The unobtainable in Walpole, New Hampshire, was the many car restoration projects. Some of several expensive items at once. Qual- recessed grille finisher strip for Maggie, go-to source on the east coast for the these blogs are better than others, and ity is also familiar with many of the the 1970 MGB Wire Wheel Conversion same range of cars; while Victoria Brit- all are based on opinions. Sharing in- specialty vendors in the cities, and will That Turned Into a Restoration came ish Ltd., a division of the Long Motor formation on the internet is one of the send you to Paul Williams Tire to get from just such a conversation. Another Corporation out of Shawnee Mission, best ways to find a potential supplier. your wire wheels properly mounted time, being completely flummoxed Kansas, was supplying the later MGB We usually decide for ourselves who and balanced, or Brake & Equipment regarding the needle bearings hold- and MG Midget models. These two to trust and where to get our informa- Warehouse to have brake parts custom ing a layshaft in position led me to a companies had catalogs too, and one tion, after a few mistakes and do-overs made and repaired, including re-sleev- friend who had a complete kit of spare thing all three catalogs had in com- from listening to the wrong people or ing cylinders and arcing brake linings gearbox parts, and was willing to share mon was their separate price lists. Dis- sometimes interpreting things incor- to match the machined drums. They some of the parts he had collected over tributors for these companies had their rectly. also offer bench services on parts that the years. And I first used APT Instru- own price lists which was somewhat require special tooling or processes ments in Bloomington (Minnesota) lower and allowed them a margin on Finding Trusted Local Suppliers and are eager to help you get your MG based on a recommendation from a the parts. You had to have pretty good back on the road. I’ve sourced used sus- friend. eyes, a sharp pencil, and a piece of Sometimes you just want to pension and engine parts, bought full paper, to create your ‘needs’ list, get handle the part or pre-fit it in an as- interiors, and had them help me with Purchasing from the ‘Big Boys’ the pricing, and place your order with sembly to make sure you have the right special process such as king pin ream- your personal check. In any case, a component. In the Twin Cities, we are ing among other tasks and parts. In Getting back to those major retail- steel ruler helped align the prices with fortunate to have a very large resource return, I have sometimes given them ers, Moss; Abingdon Spares and ‘Vicky the part numbers. in Quality Coaches. With knowledge- parts I no longer had a use for which Brit’… after perusing their catalogs on-

50 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 51 harnesses, taps and dies, and other site, but if you fool around a bit with items. In addition, From the Frame Up the sorting and searching methods, in Mesa, Arizona, is a fantastic MG TC you can find what you are looking for specialist which is expanding their pretty readily. Results can be mixed. offerings into other MGs, especially Any car you buy on eBay is like visiting when they overlap with the TC. Their a car lot and looking at the car through parts are often custom sourced, and of a dirty window from 30 feet, and trust- very high quality. I list them among ing the salesman that yes, indeed, the the small specialty vendors because car runs. Sammy, the 1974 Triumph Spit- the owner is very hands on and is the fire that Followed Me Home is one such person you will likely be dealing with. car. I didn’t inspect the car in advance Other vendors most of us are familiar and I was pretty sure I was in for some with in the niche areas of our hobby work when I bought him so I wasn’t include Advanced Distributors in Sha- too disappointed. And frankly, a lot kopee, Minnesota, the go-to repairer of the things that were wrong with of all things Distributors for our cars; him would have been very difficult to Joe Curto in College Point, New York, pinpoint without taking him apart, I for SU Carburetor parts; Martin Mac- fully believe that the seller was terribly Gregor of Dundas, Ontario for door clueless regarding the car’s minuses. So edge seals and that hard to find vinyl caveat emptor, or let the buyer beware. for the top of the dash panel behind On the plus side, it has been an inter- This master cylinder is not horribly expensive from the big retailers, but I enjoy building them, and it the dashboard of an MGB, among esting journey (although much more can be done for a fraction of the cost. other things; Dayton Wire Wheels and involved than originally planned) and Cocker Tires would perhaps round out well worth it. line, it is relatively easy to place an or- parts and a different philosophy in this listing of specialists. Simple parts are a different mat- der. A credit card is the only thing that some respects from their American ter. Not all cars get restored, some is really needed, plus a mailing address cousins. As mentioned earlier, several When the Usual Suspects Fail to get parted out so we can restore and that UPS can find. But did you know shops like Quality Coaches are Moss Provide maintain our prized examples. There that most of the orders come into Moss distributors and pass savings to the are vendors who specialize in strip- by phone? This brings up a nice side end user. Little British Car Company There are times when the vari- ping cars and selling their parts on feature of phoning in your order. A lot has raised this level of service to a new ous large and small suppliers don’t eBay, they tend to be organized, and of times, the trained order taker at the height, dealing exclusively with both have that part you need. Maybe it is sometimes a bit overpriced. Private other end of the line is an enthusiast Moss and other hard to find parts, at an Adsorption Canister for the fuel owners are more realistic. I think it is themselves. They are armed with the discounted prices. You do have to be venting system on your car, or a no because they just want to give the part same computer information you have, careful because you are one step re- longer available (NLA) trim piece or a new home. The parts are sold as an plus some extra sites and informa- moved from the source, and mistakes light. In any case, your only hope is auction; a best offer; or a buy it now. tion Moss makes available to them. can happen. LBC once shipped me two often an on-line auction such as eBay. For an auction, I like to set a number in Phoning makes it easy to ask specific kingpin kits, where one will do the job The easiest way in most cases to buy my mind as to what I believe the part is questions regarding the suitability of on an entire car. It was a simple matter from eBay is to set up a PayPal account, worth, and then add just a bit and put the parts. I once ordered a muffler for of the stock picker not being aware of which will deduct from your normal that in as my bid. The initial number another make of British car, unaware this, and of course I shipped the extra bank account or a back up credit card shown is just enough to open the that with the advent of the large rear parts back. the money you pay to a vendor. Since auction, or beat the previous bidders bumper over riders, the alignment of eBay owns PayPal, the transaction best bid by the required amount. Then the muffler with the rear of the car had Small, Specialty Vendors and mailing information is seamlessly I just put down my mouse, and back changed. The customer service repre- handled. You need to set up your Pay- away from the computer. If I receive an sentative asked a couple of pertinent If you are willing to ship from Pal accounts carefully, and be aware of email that says my maximum amount questions, certainly saving me the cost overseas, it has never been easier to PayPal scams perpetrated by thieves; as was out bid, usually I will just ignore it of returning a bulky part that I had check availability with vendors in the well as use something more complex and look for the next item. Sometimes selected, and would not have fit! UK. They are experienced in handling than your dog’s name for a password. it may wake me up to the fact that the It is also worthwhile to check the customs forms and often have US So please, be careful out there! part is harder to find than I thought, another source if one of the sources Dollar and British Pound exchange EBay includes an eBay Motors sec- and I may consider other avenues, or doesn’t have the part you are look- information built into their sites. tion, which lists both cars and parts. At bid up slightly to test the waters. For ing for. I’ve worked with Moss UK I have gone overseas for interiors, any given time there will be hundreds a best offer or a buy it now, I usually as they have a different selection of electrical bits, and full custom wiring of thousands of parts and cars on the place a reasonable price about 20%

52 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 53 rate in my current build; books (yeah hard to believe based on the way I horde some of my reading collection); and other items. When I sell some- thing on eBay, a lot of the time I will just keep the money in PayPal to fund future purchases, which sometimes include items for that portion of the house not involved in automotive restorations. There are other places to consider when buying or selling; Craigslist comes to mind, and I have had a lot of This is a gearbox I sold to a virtual friend in North success with that site. But I always use Carolina. For $28 in materials and $90 in UPS a blind Hotmail style of account and I charges, the gearbox was safely packed and never go look at something I’m consid- shipped. Notice that the gearbox is bolted to the ering without bringing someone with box sides through reinforcing 2x4s. I learned this me, just to make sure it isn’t a scam or packing trick from John Twist. worse. The only time I violated this rule was when I found my Audi A6 on The gearbox sale was interesting Craigslist. It was at a dealer about six because it was a now redundant piece blocks away, and I figured it would be due to the purchase of an overdrive fine. box from a shop in California. The OD gearbox came to me a bit banged up Buying and Selling to Friends, Both because the shipper did a poor job of Real and Virtual securing it in the box. I really didn’t need a second gearbox, and I mostly Here is the after picture as mounted on Sammy’s bulkhead. And yes, it worked beautifully. This final area is a bit more wanted to get it out of my garage. A personal, as you are selling or buying virtual friend in North Carolina said below what the part is worth, and see if I have found original brake master from someone you’ve gained a friend- that when we moved out there, he it is accepted. I always look carefully at cylinders that needed re-sleeving and ship with over time. I said both Real would take my low mileage gearbox off the shipping prices because some sell- rebuilding, lighting items; interior and Virtual because while I personally my hands as he had just had one fail. ers escalate the shipping and handling parts; even a specific camshaft and know a number of British car enthusi- Of course, Diane and I decided against prices to a level where it is no longer a head for building a European spec en- asts locally and around the country, I the move, but I offered to ship the box good purchase. gine. Whether you are looking for that also have friends from message boards to him at his cost, and if it worked, What happens if you buy a part on original part to complete the restora- and forums on-line that I’ve never he could pay me for the gearbox. He eBay and find that it just doesn’t work tion, or just keeping the cost down on met. Locally, I’ve purchased wire wisely said “let’s set a price now, so out? Well, I’ve done that more than a rebuild, eBay can be a big help. wheels; gently used pistons; a parts there are no hard feelings later”, so once, usually due to a lack of under- I’ve also sold parts on eBay. The washer; even a set of welding tanks. I suggested a price that I knew we standing on my part when a change PayPal fees come out of the sales price; From Virtual friends, I’ve purchased could both live with. I’m glad I was occurred in the part, but sometimes and there are listing fees. These costs 1975 and later interior parts for Sammy able to help him out and pleased that because the seller misrepresented have to be considered when listing because they are nicer than what was I didn’t just toss out a completely us- or didn’t understand the part. I will an item. I like to use a lot of pictures offered in 1974. A used air intake box able gearbox… and more than a little usually contact the seller and ask for a and set a fair starting price. Since I’m was also purchased the same way, and pleased that the gearbox is continuing refund; shipping the part back at my usually selling a part because I don’t from another source, bonnet latches to provide great service in another own expense, if I feel like it was my want to keep it around, I try to keep in and a single lug nut! In each case, the car. Of course, I made sure that this error. If I feel like it was their error, I mind that whatever I sell it for is more purchase was negotiated off the forum, gearbox would more than survive ask for return shipping as well. Most than I will realize if it is up in my attic, using the private messaging service the trip halfway across the country. I of the time, by keeping a positive at- gathering dust. I usually include ship- a lot of these forums provide, and I even received an email from the buyer titude, I get positive results. On the few ping, or if it is a small item, I use the was quite happy with the results. I’ve thanking me for those ‘handles’ I built I haven’t I simply chalked it up to the USPS flat rate shipping so I can include sold an extra but refurbished PDWA into the shipping crate. Next time I’m cost of doing my restorations, realiz- a predictable price in my calculations. via this method, and a multitude of in North Carolina on business, I think ing that the vast majority of items I’ve I’ve sold interior parts; carburetors and carburetor rebuilds, but most recently I’ll look up my virtual friend and make purchased have worked out just fine. manifolds I didn’t intend to incorpo- an entire gearbox. him a real one.

54 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 55 Proceeds from MG 2014 Basic MG: By Steve Chivington, Emerald Necklace MG Register Support Big Brothers Big Sisters How to Bleed an MG Clutch Hydraulic System f you are a Do-It-Yourself- WHAT TO DO: er, you’re going to like this. First, fill the ‘clean’ I Bleeding the air from a pump style oil can British Car clutch hydraulic with fresh Dot 4 fluid. system can be quite time Next, extract the bleed consuming and frustrating. screw from the slave I’ve had a half dozen calls cylinder and lightly in the last few months from coat the treads with guys wanting to know how to wheel bearing grease. bleed the air from their MG This helps to seal the clutch systems after spend- threads while the bleed enderson, KY Big Brothers Big Sisters ing an extraneous amount screw is loose (open) August 25, 2014 provides children of time and pushing several during the bleeding H -- Big Broth- facing adversity, often cans of fluid through the process. Attach one end ers Big Sisters (BBBS) those of single or low- system, but to no avail. Rather of the clear plastic tub- received a check from income households or than getting into the nitty- ing to the oil can and the Southern Indiana families where a parent gritty as to why it is so dif- push the Dot 4 fluid Region British Car Club is incarcerated or serv- ficult and following up with all the way through to (SIR BRIT) MG2014 ing in the military, with discussion on the various expel (displace) the air Co-Chairman on strong and enduring, tricks I have learned over the in the line. Now push Tuesday, August 26. The professionally support- the other end of the decades, I’m just going to tell DOT brake fluid. proceeds were raised ed one-to-one mentor- you “how to do it” with ease, tubing onto the bleed at MG 2014, the an- ing relationships that speed and with less screw. Follow nual convention of the change their lives for than a half of pint up by cracking North American MGB the better, forever. Part- of Dot 4 Brake fluid, the bleed screw Register, a car show that nering with parents/ and, all by yourself. open 1/2 to 1 brought together over guardians, schools, OK, you’ve just full turn. Begin 380 MG owners from corporations and oth- to pump the Dave Mullins (center) presents check finished servicing around the world. The ers in the community, oil can slowly from MG 2014 proceeds to Big Broth- your MG clutch annual convention BBBS carefully pairs and watch the ers Big Sisters. hydraulic system was jointly hosted by children (“Littles”) either by replacing flow of fluid the Southern Indiana with screened volun- or rebuilding the through the Region British Car Club (SIR BRIT) and teer mentors (“Bigs”) and supports master and/or slave clear tubing. the Illinois Flat Land British Car Club these one-to-one mentoring matches cylinder and you are It doesn’t take (Flatlanders) in French Lick June 14-18. throughout their course. Local office ready to bleed the many pumps The funds will support the one- space is generously donated by the system. Clear plastic tubing. to fill the to-one mentoring programs of BBBS Henderson Housing Authority. Learn system so after in Henderson County. Since opening more at gobighenderson.org. WHAT YOU NEED: a half-dozen pumps, an office in Henderson in 2011, 88 A can of Dot 4 brake fluid, a go topside and check children have been served in one-to- two foot length of clear plas- your clutch reservoir. one mentoring programs. Right now, tic tubing with a 3/16” inner If you over fill it, 50 children have a caring adult in their Contact: Anna Hargis diameter (Home Depot has there’s going to be life because of BBBS, and the support Executive Director it), a dab of wheel bearing a mess to clean up. of groups like SIRBrit. [email protected] grease, a 7/16” wrench, and Once the reservoir is About Big Brothers Big Sisters 812-425-6076 one clean (contaminate 1/2 to 3/4 full you can Serving Henderson County (BBBS) free) pump style oil can. merely top it off with Dab of wheel bearing grease. fresh fluid.

56 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 57 Now, go back down- brake systems as well. This stairs and tighten the technique is referred to bleed screw and remove as ‘reverse bleeding’ and the hose. The last step works on any vehicle’s hy- entails the use of both draulic systems. (Pre-anti- hands. Hold the 7/16 lock and/or computer- wrench in your right ized.) Once you’ve tried it hand and while push- you’ll never ‘push pedals’ ing the slave cylinder to bleed, ever again. actuating rod towards So, the next time your the front of the car with Clutch Slave Cylinder Buddy needs your help your left hand, crack the to push his pedals while bleed screw open to expel a little fluid he bleeds his hydraulics, just show up and any remaining air trapped in the with your oil can and clear tubing and cylinder. proceed to shine like the star that you Voila! You’re done. A typically are. You’ll be his hero for sure. long story made very short. This pro- cedure works great on the bleeding of

1. RH front indicator lamp 29. Ignition warning light 2. Stop lamp switch 30. Oil pressure warning light 3. Reverse lamp switch 31. Flasher unit 4. Interior lamp door switches 32. Luggage compartment lamp 5. RH rear indicator lamp 33. Number plate illumination lamp Hellertown, PA ~ June, 2014 6. RH tail lamp 34. Battery 7. Stop lamps 35. Heater motor 8. RH sidelamp 36. Windscreen wiper switch 9. Headlight main beam 37. Tachometer 10. Headlamp dip beam 38. Ignition/starter switch 11. Horn 39. Hazard warning flasher unit 12. Distributor 40. Hazard warning switch 13. Ignition coil 41. LH sidelamp 14. Fuse unit (4-way) 42. LH front direction indicator 15. Oil pressure switch 43. Starter motor 16. Line fuse for hazard warning 44. Starter solenoid 17. Headlamp flasher switch 45. Heater motor switch 18. Direction indicator switch 46. Instrument voltage stabilizer 19. Horn push 47. Windscreen wiper motor 20. Headlamp dipswitch 48. Coolant temperature gauge 21. Fuel gauge tank unit 49. Fuel gauge 22. Luggage compartment lamp switch 50. Lighting switch 23. Reverse switch 51. Panel lamp switch 24. Alternator 52. Interior courtesy lamp 25. Coolant temperature transmitter 53. Radio 26. Direction indicator warning lamps 54. Line fuse for radio 55. LH rear indicator lamp 27. Main beam warning light 56. LH tail lamp 28. Panel lamp

58 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 yours. Contact the North American synchros appear to be doing what they are MGB Register. They have VIN data- supposed to, that is the taper inside the bases and may have the car regis- synchro contacts the cone shape on the Tech Talk tered. It used to be possible to write gear and causes friction to synchronize Hi John, the the DMV in each state to see if the gears for a smooth shift. The issue they had the VIN on file, but now I’m looking for some advice on a carbure- John Twist with everyone hypersensitive about is the third gear synchro. The synchro is tor problem. I’m working on my 1971 Technical Coordinator “privacy” the states usually do not a slightly “sloppy” fit on the cone of the MGB/GT that I’ve had since new, but it The MGB Driver reveal that information. There are a gear. The other synchros that work right has sat for 20+ years. I’m trying to get it number of clubs around the Mid- on the other gears fit the same way on back to decent running condition and then A few days later, I turned the ignition west – you could contact them with third gear, the inner taper of the synchro decide how much additional work I want on and same problem – the pump kept the specifics. It may be on the road; never makes contact with the cone on the it may be in the back of someone’s to put into it. I’ve replaced the fuel tank, running. So I shut off, cleaned up, and gear. So I know it isn’t synchro wear. I tore the fuel pump, and all fuel hoses. I’ve dis- garage, or worse. down another gearbox, and the synchros restarted. This time no fuel spillage, assembled and rebuilt the carburetors us- and the engine ran OK, but with varying were worn a bit on 2nd and 4th, but 3rd ing rebuild kits from Joe Curto and I sent John, was the same, a sloppy fit. Is this just a engine speed. So I think I’ve still got a fuel First a thank you for all the YouTube the throttle bodies to Joe for rebuilding. problem of some sort in the fuel bowls. For common wear issue on the gear itself, or When trying to adjust the mixture set- videos. I have a question about MG gear- does the 3rd gear synchro not work quite some reason the needle valves are not boxes, if you would be so kind as to share tings I’ve had very inconsistent results. I’d closing consistently which could cause the like the others? I’ve attached a few photos. get the mixtures set to what I thought was your knowledge. The transmission(s) in Two shots show the same thing, different key-on fuel spillage, and maybe also the question are ribcase MG midget items. I correct, then it would seem too lean. I’d inconsistent idle and fast idle speed. transmissions, with the synchro bottom- adjust again to richen, then later it would tore an old spare down that came from a ing out on the gear, the other shows the What are your thoughts? And thanks for wrecked parts car I had bought, and aside seem too rich and sometimes in this pro- your help… —Barry Erickson synchro in what I recall as the proper posi- cess the engine would just shut off, as if I’d from some surface rust, wear appeared tion with a gap. I’m trying to get a working to be minimal. Since it is apart, I will be turned off the switch. Sometimes when Barry, gearbox in a car restored by my son and I. the engine would shut off, I’d see fuel pool- A picture is worth a thousand words replacing the normal wear items. One How many 17 year old Sprite owners do ing in the carburetor throats. and I wish I had a picture of your thing has me perplexed. The 2nd and 4th you know of? We thought it may have something to carb setup. Offhand, it sounds to me Thanks, —Jeff do with the fuel float chambers. Maybe as though you have your float bowl Lemon fuel level too high? We remembered that vents connected to each other and when we had set the floats to about 3/16” not vented to the atmosphere. This Jeff, would explain the problem, but, it it didn’t look quite right to us, as the Quite frankly I don’t may be that you do not have a good know ANY 17 year float (all plastic, no metal tang to bend) fuel filter in the system or the hose appeared like it would be very close to old Sprite owners, from the filter to the carb (or carb to save yourself. Con- contacting the float chamber wall. If so, carb) is sloughing off tiny particles grats! There should that might prevent the needle valve from and jamming up the needle and be a fitted gap properly shutting off. So we removed the seats. So, if the float bowl vents are between the baulk lids and added a thin shim to each valve NOT connected to each other, please ring (synchro ring) seat. So we’re sitting right now with one send me an under bonnet picture and the face of thick and one thin shim on each valve and I’ll help you get this sorted out. the gear of about seat. This yields a float level of about 1/4 1/8”. If the synchro to 5/16” on both floats. Not exactly the John, ring hits the face same, but pretty close. Stupid question for you John, but maybe of the gear, then there is no hope Then we put it back together and restart- you have heard for something. I use to have a 1972 B GHN5UC264983G and I of it working. Both ed. With the key on the first time, the fuel the rings wear and pump kept pumping, spitting fuel out the did not know if there is a way to find out if the car is still out there someplace. I last the sintered conical carb throats. My friend said he has expe- face of the gear. The rienced that before with motorcycles he’s had it in 1990 -1991 when I sold it to a pictures you sent are worked on, but it generally doesn’t recur used car dealer in Washington, Illinois. I slightly out of focus after initial startup. So we cleaned up the have tired some internet searches but no – combine that fuel and tried again. This time it pumped luck. Know of anything, I am just curious with my 65 year old, up – click, click, etc – then stopped and if it is still out there. —Doug slightly out of focus eyes – and I cannot the engine ran OK. We adjusted mixtures Doug, tell too much. But and seemed to get better results, and more I searched our database and found consistent. 264988 in Harvest Gold, but not

60 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 61 it must be that you need new gears, springs. Where can I purchase the springs air toward the radiator. or simply (temporarily) tape it. I can new synchro rings, or both. Hit eBay and adjuster screws? Thanks in advance, —Joe Stout provide more detail if you send me to find gears – there must be a great Thanks, —Ron some pictures of your underbonnet. many out there. But! Do not pur- Joe, chase a “rebuilt gearbox” for that is The slot in the yellow fan should Hello John, merely a pig in a poke and you have Ron, point towards the radiator. Make I have a 58, 1500 MGA. Lately I have NO idea what is really going on. Be Purchase those 4BA screws from Jo- certain you remove those screws (if really careful when you fit the 1-2 been running as low as 40 pounds of oil eCurto.com AUC 2451 and AUC 8487 you can) and use anti-seize on the pressure at highway speeds,( i.e. – at 3500 sliding hub to make certain the lock- threads so you can change them or I think. Get all four! Moss also has rpm or higher), this has me concerned that out pin is correctly positioned or you them in their catalogue – they’re the the motors later without having to I should rebuild my lower end. I was out won’t have second gear! same for all the MGB SU carburetors. remove the radiator. Double-check with my Metrolina Car Club yesterday the fans to ensure they are blowing and one of our lady members is a former John, Hi John, TOWARDS the radiator. Some motors have been disassembled and reas- MG mechanic who indicated that 40# I own a 1973 MGB. We live between I have seen a few different answers for my sembled backwards, and because was not all that bad. I often read articles 4,000/5,000 feet MSL. Should I be setting question - so I thought that I would run the field is a permanent magnet the by Barney Gaylord who indicates that 40 my timing 32-degrees or something else? it by you… I am putting a 79 B back to- motor will spin backwards. Easiest pounds at highway speeds is too low. Dur- I’m having a heck of a time finding my gether, and it did not have the pair of elec- solution is to reverse the wire con- ing our tour yesterday another member overheating problem! tric cooling fans in front of the radiator. I nection. The little bi-metal switch indicated you may have an opinion on Thank you, Steve Jaouen purchased a uses pair of fans, however I that fits into the radiator must carry what would be considered low oil pressure noticed that the blades on one fan all the current – and those fans use Steve, at highway speed. Here are some facts if are mounted one way, and the other fan more electricity than anything else in We use 32 BTDC at full mechanical you care to consider my question. Car will blade is mounted the other way! Just the car except the starter motor. It is advance, vacuum disconnected, ex- best to fit a relay to the fan circuit! start at 65 pounds of pressure. At surface checking to confirm that both fan blades cept on supercharged MGBs. Those street traveling pressure will almost should be mounted using the same orien- we set about 28 BTDC. There are no John, always be above 50 pounds above 2500 published needle changes for high tation, and that when these are in front of I have a 1980 MGB LE American model rpm. When leaving the highway pressure altitude – but a richer needle would the radiator that they are designed to blow run cooler, I believe, single carb. All of a sudden the other day will recover to slightly below 50 pounds not leaner. I have lit- it now runs on after turning off the car I over time. I am running 20/50 Havoline tle experience about have to pop the clutch to stop. Can you tell oil. I believe the car is timed correctly and high altitude. Paul me what’s wrong engine temp rarely goes above 190. Your Dierschow does Thanks, —Kevin Bryden thoughts would be most welcomed and ap- have experience as preciated. Regards, —John Kennally his shop is in Denver Kevin, at 5,000+ feet. Per- If the car continues to run despite John, haps Paul could give having the key in your hand – well, Barney is correct. Forty pounds is you some advice that’s a wiring issue endemic to WAAAY too low. You should expect about the timing. the 1977 models but solved early something closer to 70 psi. But, you Overheating can be in 1978. If the car diesels (bumpa may be able to salvage this condition caused by a poor bumpa bumpa) after you turn it off without rebuilding the engine. This tune – more heat – that’s a fault of the evaporative loss is what I would do. entering the cool- system and the anti run-on valve. If ing system than it’s it’s the dieseling, designed to handle. check the wiring at Or, it may be that the anti run-on valve the cooling system (located in front is flawed (plugged of the windscreen radiator, faulty washer reservoir) impeller, hose block- to make sure both age). Or, it may be wires are attached that the temp gauge (Slate and Slate/ is not correct. Yellow). If that’s OK, then it’s probably John, a split in one of a I enjoyed the video on dozen underbonnet setting HIF twin crabs. hoses. Feel all the You mentioned chang- hoses for cracks – if ing the lock nuts to you find one you can change the hose

62 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 63 • Remove the sump. noticed however, that my runners seem • Replace the four rod bearings to be a Heath Robinson affair. I’m not en- • Replace the center main bearing tirely sure, but I understood that the front (the end bearings cannot be re- Registrars of NAMGBR bolts fitted into the frame beneath. Mine MGB Registrar 100,000 Mile Registrar moved in place). however, have separate bolts added in new • Rebuild the oil pump (vane and Jack Long Jai Deagan rotor available from Engel Imports in holes which have been drilled through the 343 Spencela Parkway 11825 Columbia Highway Kalamazoo MI) floor with nuts on the underside of the car. Forest Hill, MD 21050 Eaton Rapids, MI 48827 • Replace the oil pressure relief valve One of them is drilled straight through (410) 450-1385 (517) 295-3599 and spring part of the floor crossmember. Have you [email protected] [email protected] come across this situation before and is MGB LE Registrar Original Owner Registrar This is as much as you can do, it likely someone did this as the original Ken Smith Bill Hawkins in place. As long as the crankshaft is threads were damaged and not easily ac- not grooved, the oil pressure is often PO Box 8645 2301 Kendricks Court cessible being inside the frame? I can send Goleta, CA 93111 Raleigh, NC 27613 restored to a proper pressure. Once a photo if it helps, but I would appreciate you wear the crank (from low pres- [email protected] (919) 676-8888 your advice on how to get the setup right [email protected] sure) the game is up and you have Early Midget/Sprite Registrar to regrind the crank. So, do this job for when I buy some new runners. Bruce Hamper Hammer & Tongs Registrar TODAY!! Being in New Zealand there is perhaps 132 Wildwood Lane Phil Smith not opportunity for me to make use of Kirkwood, MO 63122 MC3955, UCHC, 263 Farmington Ave, John, your services. I am, however; very grateful (314) 822-4831 Farmington, CT 06030 Do you rebuild Lucas starters and would for all the help you have given me just by [email protected] [email protected] posting your videos. I run a few websites you have a ballpark price? 1500 Midget Registrar Post Abingdon Registrar Thanks! — Tim Nawrocki for some local companies and if you every Steve Olson Mark Jones need someone to put a couple of pages to- 3540 North Kenwood P.O. Box 1203, 510 Albert Blvd. Tim, gether for your site, please feel free to drop Kansas City, MO 64116-2792 Corunna, Ontario, NON 1GO Canada For the older units we use Star me a line in case I can help you out on a (816) 452-3540 Phone: (519) 862-3763 Automotive in Monrovia, California, thank you basis (no charge) [email protected] [email protected] (866) 969-7827. For the late model Kind Regards, —Trevor Holman 1974½ MGB Registrar MGB starters, 1968 through 1980, we usually charge around $150. You can Dennis Taylor Trevor! 5941 Rounder Lane purchase replacement units through Thanks for your kind comments! It’s the major suppliers. The late model Holly Springs, NC 27540 not uncommon for those front seat [email protected] MGB starters are nearly all rebuilt track welded nuts to strip out. Proper units and my experience is that one replacement is so difficult that many MGB V8 Registrar out of four doesn’t work out of the simply run a much longer bolt down Modified Registrar box or fails quickly. Better to have through the crossmember. It’s not Mike Grieco someone rebuild yours. The earlier “right” but it gets the job done – 519 Grand Avenue small starters, the M35G starters (TD and quickly. The proper bolts are Ravenna, Nebraska 68869 through 79 Midget) are not worth 1/4x28. The rear weld nuts are usually (308) 452-3090 rebuilding unless you want to keep in good condition. The seat rails [email protected] the original unit with your vehicle. are parallel. Watch my video about fitting the seats. It’s one of those Pull-Handle MGB Registrar Hi John, jobs that done incorrectly can take Lloyd Faust Firstly, I’d like to thank you for all the half a day – but done in the proper 704 Timber Lake Circle sequence takes about 15 minutes. Al- Southlake, TX 76092-7248 videos you have posted on YouTube. They [email protected] are most helpful. I have owned my 1970 ways fit the bolts with a lot of grease MGB for nearly two years now and had on the threads so they don’t rust! My MG 1100/1300 Registrar wanted to own one for many years. I am favorite video was produced by “MG Bill Fox going to replace my seat runners this win- Amy” about the Auckland MG Car 998 Northwestern Ave Club! ter as mine are worn & damaged. (I am in Fairview Heights, IL 62208 [email protected] New Zealand and winter is on us). I have MGC Registrar John Rogers 18251 Starduster Dr. Reminder: John Twist will be pleased to answer your technical query; you can e-mail Nevada City Ca. 95959 him at [email protected] or call during his technical hour of 1-2pm (530) 432-9595 Eastern, Monday-Friday. [email protected]

64 The MG Driver • November / December 2014 Sell • Seek • Swap! Where 2 ‘B Ads here are FREE to NAMGBR members in good standing — please, no business or commercial ads. Send ad copy with name, address, phone number and membership number to [email protected] Please check for up-to-date information before departing to the meet. The Register encourages local or 5444 Sutherland Ave., St. Louis, MO 63109. Ads only accepted in writing and may be edited for content. •Business or other ads by arrangement with Charles de Bourbon, Advertising Coordinator (see inside front cover.) groups and clubs to submit their MG events to MG Driver. Information must include date, location, Ads run for two issues, space allowing. The Register retains the right to refuse any ad it deems unacceptable. and contact phone number. Please submit events at least 3 months in advance to the MG Driver The originating state is shown at the end of each ad. Editor, 5444 Sutherland Ave., St. Louis, MO 63109 or e-mail [email protected] CARS FOR SALE 1973 MGB – Blaze orange ,72385 original miles, engine rebuilt 4 years ago but presently not running 1949 MGTC – Almond Green; home market model, well, many spare parts, interior needs to be finished. MAJOR NORTH AMERICAN MG EVENTS FOR 2014 very nice condition with original drive train. Comes Asking $2500. E-mail [email protected] or call with weather equipment and tool kit; $28,000 obo.111214 269-342-2081 111214 • Nov 14-16...... MG Jamboree, Homosassa, FL • [email protected] 1953 MGTD – Red; runs and drives well. Straight 1977 MGB - Original owner car with only 11K miles. • Dec 6...... Brits by the Bay Picnic, Safety Harbor, FL • tampabaybritishcarclub.org body and no rust. Doesn’t need work to enjoy, but Brooklands Green on tan with over-drive. Original could use some TLC to make it a show car. throughout. Garage stored for extended period. Body 2015 Currently in Florida. $18,000 obo. 111214 and hood are in predictable exceptional condition. Many accessories. A unique opportunity Car located • Feb 15...... British Car Show, Boca Raton, FL • goldcoastbricar.com in Ottawa, Canada. Asking $9,000.Contact Ron 1977 MGB - Red (a non-MG shade); this car is in Wieleba for details (613)824-8725 091014 • Mar 26-29...... BMTA Conference, Kansas City, MO; www.britcar.org very good and clean shape. The original engine has been bored out and has an alloy crossflow head, • Apr 17-19...... GOF 49, Hills, FL; [email protected] Weber side-draft carbs, a free-flow exhaust, and a WANTED hot street cam. It runs very well and is a great road • Apr 20-24...... British Car Bash, Key West, FL; www.keywestbritishcarclub.com car. $12,000 obo. Bob Mendelsohn, Wanted 1967 or older MGB roadster (or Canadian [email protected] or (216) 469-2136 OH 111214 1968 MGB with metal dash). Looking for a preserved • June 8-12...... MG 2015, Niagara Falls, ON; www.mg2015.com or restored example or a blend of the two. Would 1953 MGTD consider a stalled restoration. I would prefer a car that – Red, runs and drives well. Straight has been kept or redone as original-spec or close to it. body and no rust. Doesn’t need any work to enjoy, Don Scott - [email protected] or call (707) but could use some TLC to make it a show car. Cur- 942-0546 CA 050613 rently in Florida. $18,000 OBO. 091014 1949 MGTC – Home market model in almond green. PARTS FOR SALE Very nice condition with original drive train. Comes with weather equipment and tool kit. Car is in Ohio. Mountney 15” Steering Wheel – Leather wrapped. Byron Hapner $28,000 OBO. 091014 Aluminum with six holes. Comes with boss. Needs 1977 MGB Roadster –Red (a non-MG shade). This horn button. Good Condition. $25.00 plus shipping. car is in very good and clean shape. The original Special Tuning Air Dam – Needs minor fiberglass engine has been bored out and has an alloy crossflow repair. Fiberglass repair kit included. Fits Chrome head, Weber side draft carbs, a free flow exhaust, bumper MGB. $25.00 plus shipping. Both for $40.00 and a hot street cam. It runs very well and is a great plus shipping Frank Bulkley (775) 747-4378 1150 road car. The car is in Ohio. $12,000 OBO. Freddie Ct Reno, NV 89503 Member # 21-8007 or Bob Mendelsohn - [email protected] [email protected] 010214 (216) 469-2136 (cell) 091014 A/C Unit – Dealer installed that fits contour under dash of 1977-80 MGB. Semi-complete with some 1974 MGB/GT – Trophy Winner - in its time, this missing parts that are available from Moss. Offers? car won “Best Unrestored MG” three years running, Bill Holmes, (970) 485-9734 or ahfanatic@gmail. and one Third in Class (MGB/GT) at the All Brit- com CO 010214 ish Field Meet in Seattle, plus “Best British Car” at Flashback ‘99. Trophies are not included. Since its MGB/GT driver side quarter panel – NOS. (A 457- trophy days, it has been repainted in its original color 450 in some catalogs or references); $395 + shipping. (Bracken), the front seats have been recovered, the

Todd Wyatt (320) 980-2010; toddski1000@yahoo. MG! Its Macho’s carpets replaced, and the door seals replaced. This com MN 010214 is a driver. She is showing her age, a few dents and dings, but would not embarrass you at a local car show. She comes with two boxes of spare parts, spare Performance Parts – like-new Hooker Header bumpers, two spare Rostyle wheels, spare grille, and bought new in 1977 for a 1972 MGB (3-into-1) for anything else I find in the garage that should go with $300 obo; a 45mm dual-throat SK side draft carb. the car. Also included are the owner handbook, repair Perfect condition, includes the rare SK tuning manual manuals, sales literature, period advertisements, origi- for $500 obo. David Bloyed (972) 223-6497 TX 030414 nal bill of sale, and window sticker. My father bought this car new in 1974 in Portland, OR. Please email MGB parts - (to “71) 6-blade metal fan $50, Origi- me for pictures. $5500 —Sam Walt (208) 854-9527, nal 1970 MGB AM radio and antenna $75, MGB [email protected] ID 091014 rubber floor mats and starter cover$100, New MGB/ GT “C” post panels (lt. grey) $50, used MGB/GT up- per rear trim panel $10, Front MGB/GT license plate Selling or Buying an MG? mount $10, 1970 MGB/GT door pull and mounts $5, Take advantage of NAMGBR’s Buy/Sell/Trade Classifieds original MGB/GT fender mirror $20, original ash on our website: www.NAMGBR.org/classified A great way tray $15, assorted switches. to find or sell that hard-to-find part or that next project. James Vier, (512) 266-1769, Austin. TX 070814 NORTH AMERICAN MGB REGISTER P. O. Box 876 Downers Grove, Illinois 60515-0876 Address Service Requested