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La Chaine Guitare Interview Bjorn Berge Bjorn Berge Interview The Guitar Channel www.theguitarchannel.biz Twitter : @TheGuitarChnnl Facebook : facebook.com/TheGuitarChannel Questions By Pierre Journel ([email protected]) ‐ 21/10/10 Transcribed by Jenn at Random Chatter Music (metalichicka.wordpress.com) Note: the full audio recording of this interview is available on www.theguitarchannel.biz http://theguitarchnnl.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/lcg‐078‐bjorn‐berge‐interview‐ english/ Bjorn Berge Interview www.theguitarchannel.biz PJ: So, I am very happy to have with me on The Guitar Channel, Mr. Bjorn Berge. So, first, did I pronounce correctly,your last name? BB: Yes, it was perfect. PJ: Okay. So it's not Bjorn Borg, it's not the tennis man. We are talking about a guitar player here. BB: Yes, a guitar player. I don't play that much tennis. [laughs] Okay. Traditional first question for me: What was your first guitar? BB: My first guitar was an, it was a cheap, cheap model of Ibanez, even. It's called a Cimar, with like [spells it out]. It was a Les Paul copy. Electric, and it was... Terrible guitar, it was. I still have it. It's impossible to get in tune, and it's impossible to play, but it looks very nice. PJ: Okay. But you still survived this first guitar, it seems. BB: Yeah. I survived. But the thing is, when I got it, after 6 months, I traded it for a banjo. So I got me a banjo, I started to play banjo. But when I was 15 years old, I bought the guitar back. PJ: Okay. BB: So I still have it. It's not a good guitar, but it looks really cool. PJ: Okay. So can you tell us, what were the main milestones between the first guitar and now ‐ your latest album? BB: The biggest thing is, when I started to play like I play now, I started to play like this when I was around 20­21. So, but the thing is... I was very young when I discovered acoustic music, like Leo Kottke and Robert Johnson, or these. But uh, as a milestone, I think there is... I think the thing is, when I discovered Leo Kottke's album, that was kind­of... I got this *wow*! PJ: So, very early on, it was a 12‐string love affair for you, with Leo Kottke's (work)? BB: Yes, it was. But, I didn't buy one. Because it was, if you want to have a decent 12­ string guitar, it costs a lot of money. So I just bought when I was around 20 or something. I first heard Leo Kottke on record when I was like 16. PJ: And it's a very unusual choice for a guitar. Usually, especially when you're young, you want to play electric guitar, 6‐string guitar [unclear]. But no, you went to the 12‐string, very early on. 2/10 04/08/11 Bjorn Berge Interview www.theguitarchannel.biz BB: Yeah, I went, and I ... PJ: Is it because it was more more strings? (laughter) BB: I'm not sure but the thing is, I discovered it when I was younger, playing electric guitar. There was no more chicks then there used to be... The girls in my area were more into football players. (laughter) So uh... But the 12 string guitar was fascinating because it had a lot of things going on. I started to play more electric guitar, now that I'm getting older, so. Normally I should just play electric guitar in the beginning, and then acoustic guitar, but I'm the opposite. PJ: Okay. (laughter) So can you tell us a little bit more... what's the story behind the latest album? BB: The latest album is... what can I say? I've done a lot of CD's and albums, like in Norway and in Scandinavia. Recently I have just released an album called "I am the [unclear]" ­ a bunch of cover songs. And I released a live album. So this time, I decided I wanted to play my own songs. And I started to write these songs last year, when I was on tour in Europe. And also, I wan to show my fans that I can do something else ­ not just play fast and hard. And when I started to write the songs, instead of being really bluesy, some of the songs went the other way ­ more like folky songs. Stuff like that. So it was like... I didn't have any pressure on me. I was relaxed when I wrote the album. I was really relaxed when I recorded it, so it's... I think that's the reason the album have this good atmosphere. 'Feel good', I call it. PJ: And there's some really interesting Ry Cooder sound, accent in that album. I mean, was that a definitive idea, or just came up like that, or...? BB: It's not an idea... the thing is, um, my favorite slide guitar player is Ry Cooder. So, I guess, again I'm getting 'colored' by him. Because every time I play a slow song with slide guitar, I think of him, because he has, for me, the most perfect slide tone. So, I guess I'm *trying to* express that. To get close to him. But I think for every slide guitar player, Ry Cooder is *somewhere*, watching you. So I even lost purpose, and that's fine. In 'Paris', it has nothing to do with Ry Cooder ­ I was not thinking about him. And that song is (an) instrumental song, and I was just thinking of Paris when I wrote it. And got fascinated by the... if you look at Paris, like 2 ways. I look at it when I'm here with 3/10 04/08/11 Bjorn Berge Interview www.theguitarchannel.biz my girlfriend. I feel that Paris is a romantic city with good food and good wine. But when I'm working here, I have to move fast between clubs and radio stations and whatever. It's very hectic. Lots of traffic. So that song, 'Paris', is like... 2 ways. A slow part, and a hectic part, and that is describing what I feel about Paris. But really, I love Paris, and I thought it was nice to give it a song. PJ: It's a nice homage to Paris. I'm born in Paris, so you see, I love the song. BB: Yes, and you know, also my feelings, when you know the traffic jams, so. (laughter) PJ: And... was it difficult to learn to play slide on the 12‐string? Because to play slide... seems easy, but in fact it's not, because it's very difficult to play in tune. So is it even a worse nightmare, to play correctly on the 12‐string, or, with a slide? BB: It can be. And I feel that guitars are like people. You know ­ sometimes they're in a good mood, and sometimes they are not in a good mood. (laughter) BB: And that is typical with 12­string guitars. Sometimes, when you play slide on it, you have like 'well this sounds beautiful.' Sometimes you play slide on it and it sounds awful. But the thing is, I started to play slide on a normal guitar. But when I started to play 12­string guitar, also inspired by Leo Kottke, who is playing slide on a 12­string... I said, 'if he can do it, I can *try* it.' So, I don't play ­that much­ slide on 12­string guitar, I just used a slide on a 12­string, more as a pick, then small notes, because there are lots of things going on in a 12­string, you know. 12­string starts out like [makes some noise]. Then you put the bottleneck on it and it goes [makes noise again, sounds like whirring wings]. So, you have to focus when you play slide on 12­ string guitar. PJ: Are you playing it in an open tuning, or just standard tuning? BB: Uh... when I'm on tour, I have both my guitars in open tunings. Different tunings though. Um, it's more convenient for me, because I can play in both, so I play lots of songs in open tuning without the bottleneck. People think I'm playing like standard tuning, but I'm not. I'm just... pretending. I'm making the guitar sound like a standard tuning. But when it was cheaper to bring guitars on airplanes, I used to have with me, a standard­tuned guitar, also. But now it's so expensive, so I just have with me, 2. And the 12­string is tuned down to C. Very low, and really heavy strings, and the 6­string is sometimes down­tuned in 4/10 04/08/11 Bjorn Berge Interview www.theguitarchannel.biz tuning, and sometimes D. And I use a capo to have this modulation. PJ: You're well‐known for your 12‐string, but you still actually do play the 6‐string, or do you go back and forth for different songs, different moods...? BB: Yeah. It's like... now, on these shows, it's like, 60% 12­string and 40% normal 6­ string. It also depends on which kind of songs I'm choosing for the evening, and sometimes I like it better to play the 6­string, and then I'll play more songs on that. And sometimes I'll just want to play 12­string, because I'm really happy with the sound that evening and stuff.
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