Oversight Hearings on the National Apprenticeship Training Act
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DOCUMENT RESUME ED 246 279 CE 039 334 TITLE Oversight Hearings on the National Apprenticeship Training Act. Hearings before the Subcommittee on Employment Opportunities of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Ninety-Eighth Congress, First Session (November 15, 17, 1983). INSTITUTION Congress of the U.S., Washington, D.C. House Committee on Education and Labor. PUB DATE Nov 83 NOTE 417p.; Not available in paper copy due to small type. PUB TYPE Legal/Legislative/Regulatory Materials (090)-- Viewpoints (120) EDRS PRICE MF01 Plus Postage. PC Not Available from EDRS. DESCRIPTORS *Apprenticeships; *Federal Legislation; *Federal Programs; Hearings; Postsecondary Education; *Program Effectiveness; *Program Improvement; Secondary Education; *Trade and Industrial Education; Vocational Education IDENTIFIERS *National Apprenticeship Act 1937 ABSTRACT This document contains two congressional hearings on the present apprenticeship programs to determine whether they are effective in producing the needed skilled craftspersons. The hearings also focus on how the apprenticeship training systems may be improved to meet the ever-changing needs of industry. Testimony includes statements, prepared statements, letters, and supplemental materials from United States representatives and individuals representing the National Tooling and Machining Association; National Association of Government Labor Officials; Metal Trades Department, AFL-CIO; Center for the Study of Human Resources, University of Texas at Austin; National Association of State and Territorial Apprenticeship Directors; Outreach Program, International.Association of Bridge, Structural, and Ornamental Iron Workers; Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co.; Norfolk Shipbuilding and Drydock Corp.; National Joint Apprenticeship and Training Committee of the Electrical Contractors Association; Joint Apprenticeship Committee, AFL-CIO; National Education Committee, Associated Builders and Contractors; National Women's Law Center; American Vocational Association; departments of labor of various states; public school systems; the United States Department of Labor; and union locals. (YLB) *********************************************************************** Reproductions supplied by EDRS are the best that can be made from the original document. *********************************************************************** OVERSIGHT HEARINGS ON THE NATIONAL APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING ACT HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION HEARINGS HELD IN WASHINGTON, D.C., ON NOVEMBER15, 17, 1983 Printed for the use of the Committee on Education and Labor U II DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF EOUCATION -,Airl-t11'44 E UCATIONAI /IF SOURCES INFORMATION (INfER ,041(,) ilh, drx Ls ,,,,, nIth,tx,,,Ireproduced ay rffe,eal from the pemon Or nrq4ntznon orqpnling it Minor chanq., h.. he.n /n,,de to ,rnprove IPICot PO, .1d...!, Points 01 ..,..0, , salted in this dotu memdo nor ro r. ra, npresont official NIE position 0, Dot., V U S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 28-769 0 WASHINGTON : 1984 2 COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR CARL D PERKINS, Kentucky, Chairman AUGUSTUS F HAWKINS. California JOHN N ERLENBORN. Illinois WILLIAM D FORD. Michigan JAMES M JEFFORDS. Vermont JOSEPH M GAYDOS, Pennsylvania WILLIAM F GOODI.ING, Pennsylvania WILLIAM (BILL) CLAY. Missouri E THOMAS COLEMA',^ Missouri MARIO BIAGGI. New York THOMAS E. PETRI, Wisconsin IKE: ANDREWS, North Carolina MARGE ROUKEMA, New Jersey PAUL SEMON, Illinois STEVE GUNDERSON, Wisconsin GEORGE MILLER. California STEVEBARTLETT,Texas AUSTIN J MURPHY, Pennsylvania RON PACKARD. California BALTASAR C'ORRADA, Puerto Rico HOWARD C NIELSON, Utah DALE E. KILDEE, Michigan ROD CHANDLER, Washington PAT WILLIAMS, Montana (Vacancy) RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado movrrttEw0 MARTINEZ, California MAJOR R OWENS, New York FRANK HARRISON, Pennsylvania FREDERICK C BOUCHER, Virginia GARY L ACKERMAN, New York SAI.A BURTON, California DENNIS E ECK ART, Ohio TIMOTHY J PENNY. Minnesota SUBCOMMITTEE ON EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AUGUSTUS F HAWKINS, California, Chairman WILLIAM (BILL) CLAY, Missouri JAMES M JEFFORDS, Vermont BALTASAR CORRADA, Puerto Rico JOHN N ERLENBORN. Illinois PAUL. SIMON, Illinois lEx Officio) :MATTHEW G MARTINEZ. California STEVE GUNDERSON, Wisconsin PAT WILLIAMS, Montana WILLIAM F GOODLING. Pennsylvania RAY KOGOVSEK, Colorado E THOMAS COLEMAN, Missouri MAJOR R OWENS. New York THOMAS E PETRI, Wisconsin FRANK HARRISON, Pennsylvania STEVE BARTLETI', Texas GARY I. ACKERMAN. New York HOWARD C NIE:LSON, Utah CARL, D PERKINS, Kentucky EX (664140, 1%1C111, 'Y' 3 CONTENTS Hearings held in Washington, D.C. on Page November 15, 1983 . 1 November 17, 1983.. .. .............. ..... ........ 193 Statement of: Bell, John A., manager of training for the National Tooling and Machin- ing Association (NTMA) ................................................................. 235 Brooks, John C., president, National Apprenticeship Program, on behalf of the National Association of Government Labor Officials............... 35 Burnsky, Paul, Metal Trades Department, AFL-CIO 290 Glover, Robert W., director, Center for the Study of Human Resources, University of Texas at Austin... .. ...... ................... ............... 3 Grabowski, Donald J., director, employability development, State of New York Department of Labor, on behalf of the National Association of State and Territorial Apprenticeship Directors. 67 Herzog, Frederick, member of the International Association of Bridge, Structural and Ornamental Iron Workers, former staff member of the national iron workers and employers training program, representing the Outreach program. ....... ....... ........... ..... ......... 195 Lyons, J Daniel, director of training, the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co 28 Payne, Wesley D., senior vice president, Norfolk Shipbuilding and Dry- dock Corp. 304 Phillips, A. J., director, National Joint Apprenticeship and Training Com- mittee of the Electrical Contractors Association... .... ............... 254 Robertson, Raymond Joint Apprenticeship Committee, AFL-CIO, accom- panied by Kenneth Edwards, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers; Tom Castine, Paints and Allied Trades; Merlin Taylor, Brick- layers and Allied Craftsmen; and Reece Hammond, Operating Engi- . neers...... .. ....... .............. ... ......... ....... ...... ........ 271 Smith, John B, president of Lake Plumbing, Inc., Eustis, Fla, and chair- man, National Education Committee, Associated Builders and Contrac- . ... 243 tors(ABC).. .............. ...... .... ....... ..... .. ... Rust-Tierney, Diann, staff attorney, National Women's Law Center 197 Walter, Julie E., managing Director of training, Crouse-Hinds . 25 Warner, Gary B, director of administration for Pizzagalli Construction Co, South Burlington, Vt, and chairman, Open Shop Subcommittee of Manpower and Training Committee of the Associated General Contrac- tors of America . .... ........ ............ 250 Wells, John, consultant, American Vocational Association, accompanied by Dean Griffin, director, government relations..... 20 Prepared statements, letters, supplemental materials, etc.: Agsalud, Joshua C , director of labor and industrial relations, department of labor and industrial relations, State of Hawaii: Letter to Thomas F Royals dated September 15, 1983.. 83 Letter from Thomas F Royals, dated Aug. 29, 1983.. .. 84 Allyn, H P., State supervisor, apprenticeship related studies, Department of Education, Commonwealth of Virginia, letter to Thomas F Royals dated September 19, 1983 with enclosures ......... ..... 342 American Society for Training & Development, statement of the 80 Baldino, Anthony J ,assistant to chancellor, career and occupational education, New York City Public Schools, letter to Thomas F Royals dated October 4, 1983 . ..... .... .. ... .. 377 Barker, Lawrence, commissioner, Department of Labor, State of West Virginia, letter to Thomas F Royals dated September 19, 1983 . 357 4 Page Prepared statements letters, supplemental materials, eh. Continued Bell. John A. manager of training for the National Tooling and Machin. ing Association, Fort Washington. Md Prepared statement of . ..... 232 Litter to Chairman Hawkins. dated September 30, 198:1, with enclo- . sures .... 334 Billings. David L, coordinator, school/ work linkageprogram, Des Moines Public Schools. Des Moines. Iowa, letter to Thomas F Royals dated October 28, 1983 enclosing a position paper ... 361 Brooks, R C. Labor Commissioner, State of New Mexico, Santa Fe, N M Letter to Thomas F'Royals. dated August :30, 1983 . :352 Letter to Thomas F Royals, dated September 15, 1983 . ... 352 Brooks. John C ,elected commissioner of labor. State of North Carolina, chairman. North Carolina Apprenticeship Council, president, national apprenticeship program, prepared statement of. enclosing appendixA. B. C. D. E . .... .. ...... 38 Burnsky. Paul J , president. Metal Trades Department, AFL-CIO. Letter to Chairman Hawkins dated October 12, 1983 . 91 Prepared statement of .... 284 Caldwell, Sam, commissioner of labor, Georgia Department of Labor. Atlanta, letter to Thomas F Royals dated September 12, 1983 356 Campbell, Patrick J, general president, United Brotherhood of Carpen- ters and Joiners of America, letter to Chairman Hawkins, dated De- cember 5, 1983 . .. 96 Carey.. Dennis C. secretary of labor. State of Delaware, letter to Thomas F' Royals dated November 8, 1983........ 337 Cipriano,