Lok Sabha Debates
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Seventh Series9ROI1R. 2 Tuesday, January 22, 1980 Magha 02, 1901 6DND /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 First Session Seventh/RN6DEKD 9ROI CRQWDLQV1R1WR10 /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 1(:'(/+, 3ULFH5V CONTENTS (". 2 , Tuesday·, January 22, 198o i Mag~a 2, I g OI (8 OLUMNS Memb r s\\'orn. • 1-3 Election of th p aker 3-4 Felicitation~ to the Speaker . 4 I hrima ti Indira Gandhi • • 4-5 hri haran. ingh . 5-6 Shri Samar Mukherjee 6-7 Shri Ravindra Varma • 7-9 hri C.T. Dhandapani 9-10 Shrj Yeshwantrao Chavan . I'J-II hri Indrajit Gupta 11-13 hri Tridib Chaudhuri 13 Shri ~br ahim Sulaiman Sait 13-1 4- hri Chitta Basu 14-1 5 Dr. Farooq Abdullah 15-16 hri N. Soundararajan 16-17 Shri Frank Anthony . 17-20 M r. peaker 21-2 LO ABBA DEBATE I 2 LOK SABHA 'and diesel oil all over the country, I would like to have your ruling in r gard as to whether the motion c n Tuesday, January 22, 1980/Magha 2, be taken up for discussion by th 1901 (Saka) House. (InterruptiQns) I have started drawing daily allowance of Rs. 51/" from yesterday. The Lok Sabha rnet at Elev .n of the , Clock. , AN HON. MEMBER: That win not THE SPEAKER pro tem, (SHRI JAGJIVAN ~lve the problem! (Interruptions> RAM) in the Chair] SHRI JY'OTIRMOY BOSU: Accord- 'ing to Direction 2, these things have MEMBERS SWORN precedence over the motion. If you read Rule 56 also, it gives a clear in.. Shri S. M. Krishna (Mandya) dication that these mo.tions should be Shri P. J. Kurien (Ma~elikara) taken up adjourning the other busine s of the House. I woUld request you to Shri A. A. Rahim (Cbirayinkil) be good enough to give your ruling 0 Shri Balasaheb Vikhe . PatH (Kopar- that we can proceed with the busin gaon) MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Member Shri More Ramkrishna Sadashiv is an old member and an experienced {Khed) member of th l!o.use. He is awar of Shri PatH Vasantrao Banduji (San- the rules. I presume,he is awa of th gli) conventions as well .... Shri Narayan Sahu (Deogarh) SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Ther Shri Kamakhya Prasad Singhdeo should be either a rule or a direction Mahindra Bahadur (Dhenkanal) to say that conventions will have pre- ced nce over the rules and the diI ec· Dr. R. Rothuama (Mizoram) tions. That also should be put in black Shri Fateh Bhanu Singh (Dhar) and white and I shall b bouna by that. MR. SPEAKER: That will be put in SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond black and white in due course. But Harbour): Sir. I have a point of order the fact remains that the House ob- under Rule 376 tOI be read with Direc- serves certain conventions. On th' tion 2. occasion also, the convention is to be observed. Ther is a motion before the House tor the election of the Speaker. Accord- SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Th e ing to Direction 2, adjournment are very serious things. My party motion and calling attention notices has given a alling it ntion notk~ on h Ve a pr cedence over this motion. happenings in Assam and adjournment Ther is a Calling Attention given by motions on serious rise in pric and my party on what is happening in non-availa illty of kerosen and di 1 • . am and Meghalaya and also there oil II over the country. These are v r e adojurnment motions on serious important matters. I want your rulli rise' i~. Pric s and scarcity of kerso ene on that. ,'f ! Election of JANUARY 22, 1980 the Speaker MR. SPEAKER: The convention does I think the Ayes have it; the Ayes not detract from the merit 1)f the mo- h ve it. The motion is unanimously tions which the hon. Member proposes adopted. to move. If he will have the patience, he will observe the conventicn and, The motion was adopted. after the President's Address he will move all these motions. MR. SPE.A1{E'R: 'I declare Shri :sal Ram duly elected as the Speaker of the House. Now, I. haVe great plea- 11.15 h . sure in inviting Shri Bal Ram to. occupy the Chair. ELECTION OF SPEAKER MR. SPEAKER: Shrimati Indira (Shri Bal Ram was conducted to the Gandhi may now move the motion. Chair by the Pri1ne Minister and S1iri Charan Singh.) THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI): Sir, I beg to lnove: [MR. SPEAKER (Smu BAL RAM) in 'Th t Shri Bal Ram, a Member of the Chttir] this House, be chosen as the Sp~aker of this House." 15.18 hn. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Bali Ram Bhagat may second the motion. FELICITATIONS, TO THE HRI BALI RAM BHAGAT (Sita'" SPEAKER m arhi): I seccnd the motion. TIIE PRIME MINISTER (Shrimati MR. SPEAKER: Shri Narayan Indira Gandhi): Mr, Speaker, Sir, I Datt Tiwary may now move the congratulate. ~ou on your assumption m'Otion standing in his name. of the high oflice of Speaker. May I fC'icu<i ('1';;:hll{"l) :1 also take thb opportunity of extend- ing ,my congratu1ations to all H.on'ble ~{+r~~~ : Members of the House on their elec- tt~ ~ 'Ul1 ~, \jff ~ ~ tions? ~~~, ~ mnlGfif Sir, traditionally today is the first af'CXf&i ~ ~ I" ,:) day of spring, a day of new begin- THE MINISTER OF LAW, nings, a day devoted to learning and JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS to culture. It is a coincidence that (Shri P. Shiv Shankar): I 3econd the YOur election, Mr. Speak&, has taken motion. place today. But that does ntJt de- tract from the day or the event; MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put rather it gives it 'added significance. the first motion that is, the motion moved by Shrim'ati Indira Gandhi and .India is kno,wn 'for it,3 adherence. to seconded by Shri Bali Ram Bhagat the ancient. Yet, it is ever ready to to the vote of the HQuse. meet new situations and new chal- The question is: lenges. In a fast-changing world, the need is for a fresh outlook, not "That Shri Bal Ram, a Member just peri'Jdioal or occasional but con- of this House, be chosen as the stant and continuing. Speaker of this House." You, Sir, are a son of the soil with ,Tho e in favour may say "Aye". 'personal experienCe of the difficulties RON. MEMB S: Aye. of the largest section of our people.. one On which we are all dependent MR. SPEAKER: Tho3e against for our survival. The Indian farmer lllay say "No'. is known not only for his sound Felicitations to MAGHA 2, 1901 (SAKA) the Speaker 6 .common sense and practi al approach will be able to conduct our proceed- but al 0 for his devotion to our land. ings with benefit to publi gOOd nd You have also wide knowledge of public interest. If, as during r cent men and matters and are known for time , an impression g ts round the your culture and your courtesy. The country that the proceedings of the present task is new to you just as Hou e are, not always conducted with membership of thls august House is dignity and decorum, then it will new to many of us. tend to denegrate th dignity f the House. We hope you will carry out I am sure you will soon find your your duties with strictness and im- way amongst the maze of rules and partiality and maintain order so that regulations and conventions and give everybody has his opportunity to say fair and impartial treatment to all whatever he, likes to say. sections of the, House. But let us not lose sight of two facts: One , that the Perhaps I n ed not add that the rules are there not for themselves first condition of a debate in any but to facilitate the functioning of institution, in any Convention or lh House; and secondly, that the Conference, is that nobody is allowed purpOse of this HOU3e is not merely to attribute motiv s to another man. to have discussions and debates, or Onc motiv s ar attributed, then the 'indulge in verbal battles but to serv '8tmosphere gets degener t d. heat is the people by attempting sincerely to developed aIld threats are a]s·.) some- find solutions f'Jr their multifarious times n1ade, .tc. I hope you will and pressing problem... forget, while in the Chair, that you are a Member of any particular Party The Speaker is the custodian of the and regard yourself as a custodian of noble traditions of the House. It is the rights and privileges of th House his task to uphold the dignity of this as a whole. Particularly, I hay august House. Although my Party every hope that you will tak .. p cial has the great privilege of enjoJying a ca e to prot ct th rights of the. ]arge majority, we expect no favours. Opposi tion. The ruling Party is in a We realise the importance of the majority and I hOPe that the ruling OpPo"'i tion. The ~position must Party itself will take care to se nave its due. But I do hope that that the rights of the Opposition are this does not mean obstructing the not turned down by the majority. O.)vernment from discharging its But if this happens, we can look up onerous duties. We are here, to do to y\)u alone to safeguard our rights. a job which has no parallel in size or In the interpretation o'f Rules and complexity anywhere in the wide also in other matters, som right3 lie world.