Fifth Series, Vol . LXIII No. 6 Tuesday, August 17, 1976 Sravana 26, 1898 (Saka)

Lok Sabha Debates

(Seventeenth Session)

(Vol . LXIII, contains Nos. 1-10)

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT New Delhi Price- Rs 2.00 CONTENTS

(Fifth Series, Volume LXI1I, Seventeenth Session, 1976)

No. 6, Tuesday, August 77, rgj&fSravaha 26, r8g8(Saka)

Columns Ortfl Answers to Questions:

^Starred Questions Nos. 102, 106, 108, n o , 111, 117, and 118 1— 21

TOittefr Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 101, 103, 105, 107, 109, 112 to 116, 119 and 1 2 0 ...... 21— 28

Unstarred Questions Nos. 842 to 862, 864 to 876, 878 to 883, 885 to 903, 905 to 921,9*3 to 933 and 935 to 953. . 28— 1x3

Papers laid on the T a b l e ...... 113— 21

Committee on Private Members* Bills and Resolutions— 121 Sixty-sixth R e p o r t ......

Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes—

Fifty-fourth, Fifty-fifth and Fifty-sixth Reports • 121— 22

Delhi Sales Tax (Amendment and Validation) Bill— Introduced • 122— 23

Territorial Waters, Continental Shelf, Exclusive Economic Zone and Other Maritime Zones Bill—

Motion to consider, as passed by —

Shri Jagannath Rao 123— 29

Shri Samar Mukherjee 129— 32

Shri K. Narayana Rao . 132—37

Shri 137— 47

Shri B. V. Naik 147—52

Dr. Henry Austin 152— 56

Shri Hari Singh 156— 58

Shri H. R. Gokhale 158-75

•The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the quqUjon was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member, 00 COLUMNS Clauses a to 16 and i ...... 176— 77

Motion to pass— Shri H. R. G o k h a l e ...... 177

Contingency Fund o f (Amendment) Bill—

Motion to co n sid er ...... 177—^9 Shrimati Sushila R o h a t g i ...... 177— 79, 186—89 Shri Dinesh J o a r d e r ...... 179—81

Shri M. C. D a g a ...... 181— 82

Shri H. N. M u k e r je c ...... 183— 84

Shri Y. S. M a h a j a n ...... 185—46

Clauses 2 and 1 ...... 189 Motion to pass— Shrimati Sushila R o h a t g i ...... 189

Conservation of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of Smuggling Activities (Second Amendment) Bill— Motion to consider— Shri Pranab Kumar Mukherjee 190—91

Shri Dinesh Joarder 191— 94

Shri B.R. Shukla • 194—96

Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi 19 6 — 200

Shri C. K. Chandrappan 200— 206

Shri Vayalar Ravi 206— 12

Shri M.C. Daga 2 12 — 15

Shri S. M. Banerjee 2 15 — 21

Shri Hari Singh 221— 26

Shri K. Mayathevar 226— 30

Shri B. V. Naik 230— 34 Shri K. Lakkappa 234— 36 Business Advisory Committee—

Sixty-third Report 237-38 LOK SABHA DEBATES i . LO K SABHA WO tf, f sft %nf * r o ROFrrf ftnj Tuetday, Augutt ss, 1976 /Sravana 26, 1896 (Safca) I I 5?r ^ W »TTr «fr The Lok Sabha mtt at Eleven of fawr iftmftT wr «ft w i t the Clock. yft w ft fan | ott aft «nft [Ms. Stukzii in the Chair] arcra tsr* vr srfeft, ** w I arppft I ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

Automatic Warning System Murder of Statio& Master K Sabarmati Station ♦102. SHRI M. S. PURTY: WiU the Minister of RAILWAYS be *106. SHRI HARI SINGH: Witt pleased to state: the Minister of RAILW AYS be pleased to state: (a) whether the State-owned Elec­ tronics Corporation of India Limited (a) whether a station master o f (E.C.I.L.) has developed -in Auto­ Sabarmati station near Ahmedabad in matic Warning System (A.W.S.) lor Gujarat was found murdered in the use by the Railways; and Railway yard on 7th July, 1978;

(b) if so, how far it has been ins­ (b ) if so, who were the alleged talled in various Railway Zones? murderers: and (c) what steps Government have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN taken to check such crimes on that THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS station and railway yard? (SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI): (a) Yes, Sir. tw itvfot * wnrt (wfc fw (b) An ‘engineered model’ supplied by M/s. E .C .I.L . is undergoing field : ( * ) ^ trial on the Eastern Railway. («) a* t o ^ v * ? J& T t f '■' ■ ®*** W — « i ' ■ 4 {

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MR. SPEAKER; He wanted to (b) if so, the facts thereof? know how many belong to Class HI, how many to Class IV, etc. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (SHRI K D. MALAVIYA): (a) and (b) India has not offered assistance «TST : * * ?ft 1976 * to Vietnam for offshore oil explora­ tit ft **ft?rfairT »nrr «rr i tion and development of oil fields in that country. However India has H he wants general informaion, I offered facilities to train Vietnamese personnel in different branches of oil can give him the figure. industry in Institutes located in India SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: or by sending Indian experts to Viet­ I f he does not have the information nam. "V A«* 0«wi SRAVANA 26, 1)98 <&AKA) Oral Answers

8B&1 C. K . CHANDRAPPAN: May be of assistance to friendly countries; S know 'whether there had been any like Vietnam. In that parameter cer­ ■discussions between €be Governments tain considerations are going on, and of India and Vietnam* on the question we are awaiting for response from •of assistance from India for the deve­ the Vietnamese Government. lopment of the oil industry in Viet­ nam? I f so, wbat was the kind of {assistance which the Vietnamese Tioketless Travelling Government requested from our gov- •ernment? •111. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL BHATIA: Will the Minister of SHRI K. D MALAVIYA: Some RAILWAYS be pleased to state. enquiries were made by the Vietna­ mese Government. In this connec­ (a) whether despite the vigilance of the Railways, ticketless travel conti­ tion. I also met their Ambassador nues; 'here. We pursued the points where we could help them purposefully and (b) if so, the total number of ticket- they appreciated it very much. We less travellers caught this year upto assured them that in view of the good July, 1976; and prospects of oil, both on shore and off shore in Vietnam, all the assist­ (c) whether any special steps are ance that India is capable of giving being contemplated in this regard? will be at their disposal. For the time being we have made certain THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proposals and they are under the con­ MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI sideration of the Vietnamese Gov­ MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI): (a) Yes, ernment. Sir. But, there is an appreciable de­ cline in ticketless travel. SHRI C K CHANDRAPPAN: Considering the fact that India has (b) 13 89 lakh persons approxi­ gained a lot of experience in off mately. shore exploration for oil in Bombay High and also the fact that for Viet­ fc) A statement is laid on the nam also, off shore exploration is Table of the Sabha very important, may I know whether that is the field in which India is Statement going to train their personnel or send Indian experts to train the people (c) Steps taken to prevent ticket- there? less travel are indicated below:—

SHRI K. D. MALAVIYA: It is (1) Special massive checks against not exactly like that. So far as off ticketless travel are being con­ shore drilling and engineering part ducted by mobilising a large is concerned, there is no specific force of ticket checking staff, proposal from India to help the Vie­ Railway Protection Force, Gov­ tnamese. Perhaps they may Kave ernment Railway Police’ per­ to give a second thought to it. The sonnel and Local Police per­ primary question is to start from the sonnel under supervision of beginning with regard to organisa­ Senior Railway Officers. tional structures, the technical points ( 2) Joint drives against ticketless that go into preliminary surveys seis­ travel in co-ordination with the mic surveys, maintaining an organisa­ State Governments. tion and pursuing this matter further. "So, there is a good part of the job (3) Frequent concentrated surmise in oil exploration In which we can checks, especial^ "by «fee*ing ' O fol A&wers A B & m i i m Oral A n tw m a

the checking patties accom­ whether the Sftaijtfe&lftuelf pferaopal- panied by Railway Protection iy supervised «xne of these operation* Force/Polk* end Railway Ma­ of surprise ticket checking and. If so, gistrates by road transport what is his experience.

(4) Incognito checks by Travelling SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QtHOBSHX: Ticket Examiners in plain In; fact, myself, the Deputy-Mlnister cloths. and my senior collegue, Panditji, we (5) Replacement checks by the have always been involved in ticket­ Headquarters and Divisional less travel checking. From the date ticket checking squads by in­ of the emergency up till now nearly tercepting the trains in mid- 94,000 surprise checks have been sections. conducted by the railways, which i» a very big number. Most of us have <6) Development of ticket checkin* been personally conducting these sur­ staff of one railway system for prise checks in various parts of the ticket checking on another sys­ country. tem. (7) Educative propaganda against Tranff srara v m : fzrr *?rt ticketless travel is carried out vt to arnvnft $ among the travelling public t o particularly among the student f r fbff fsRTfeapS *rrfirff wt community arar strtt I , « nqigrv Sf #r ( 8) The non-official Standing Volun­ s w wta-srfar fajrr wraT | ? f ?r tary Help Committee, func­ sprto if fatfi srr^frr^ tioning in the Ministry of Rail­ ^ ^ tTRfr ways, is also associated m the drive against ticketless travel fTcTTt, ^STTT fasrr SHRI RAGHUJTANDAN LAL BHA- ^rrcrr tftr ^ r t 'fsrr sprfaT TIA : What is the total amount re­ w fa^rr armr, tot 5*rreT facrr covered from ticketless travellers s r m i— t o wrar ^ last year? t * SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI* We have recovered from ticketless : «rr«r J im travellers near about Rs. 5 crores plus m * to ^ f w *rc »hr about Rs 35 lakhs as fines, which ^rvfr^Ycfr, f a r tft has gone to the State Governments Besides this, th9 sale of window tickets has gone up from Rs 34 crores qsptofcsrraT j sflf to Rs 50 crores per month.

gfr fz v z m * f i art ift SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL BHA- T IA : While going through the state­ aprfaT i M j z $, ment one finds that In order to meet qft VG* WZ Vt * |^ this permanent problem of ticketless tftr farv? t w $ i travel, Which is facing the railways, they are doing many things. But one thing which the Minister has not SHRI CHINTAMAKI PA30GAHHI: mentioned in hit statement, and which In our country we say that one can­ % would like to know from him, is not succeed in anything Tfnle— on* M l Jt»Mten SRAVANA M, I W X8AKA) Oral A im o tn - n M

Ii involved In it .So, unless one i* w«r ^ »tt % t o t arajir in>jrolved. la Jt, one cannot cheek thM m travel We are very happy <-%T WT ^ $ I to find that this problem has been solved to a great extent in the main •ft sfrgpifwr s *RT«rn7^ * routes, and l would like to congiatu- v t f w ftb nfiw wz w r r | ? late the Hallway Minister and the Railway Ministry tor that. But re*

eently when I travelled through some *ft *nj*n jw w STR «*JTT fatf *PTT ticketless travelling in those lines. May be, in some particular branch 3ft ^mr ^ 3 ^ * lines this might have reappeared. But ?rt «ft i the Government are very vigilant and cTT^T^T 1T^ Wft «faTOT *TT, they are going to take very serious steps against this menace. 1974-75 % 3ft f ^ t ^ T 34 3ifiinpr ®rr, ^ Tc«rcJN t % m t^r %r, 50 TThF ■^'Tq' srfil*TR7 51^» n f i *ft • $ JTctY 5 i m r ’*rrrr srfcff 3 «ft : ^rr»fafV w ff f, 5? far fg*rnr storr ^ stvt— iwt tfartrr % jfyrf *rt fa»7 ^sr? Ir fSrr f e u T O sr^?rmf *r> ^nrr srt^r- f 5? fa*r *rfhrfVT sfrr ??r m I ? apff I T ft SJT eft ^ w n r w b V winff *f*rr <7T jr\^»pV ^renrsrf^ wfnrr^t, fcrw *r$- $ fa *ft «r^3rr artf ^ rstqg' fer W | J S C W tftT »ft $ ? «flr ^ *r»rr fan *prr ^ «ft W** si^t^sp*fV «fi, m fv r «ft^|t

sfto w w m wTWt: frl art people, particularly young innova­ tors, who are tarlrio^ not only new techniques, but i*ew instruments and ftrarfeirs W W which can bring about a saving ^ « r r *?ft * 3 vt fa^rs * *m«rr, in the use of kerosene and also gas, and make it aiso cheaply available for frftsr$*f«ftraT g fa wr *?3 fofftt «r? domestic purposes. 1 would like to gHwT *n?ir 3r *ff i f |, know what is the initiative taken by * * 5 fcsrrftnftvt the Ministry to Ihelp these innovators, these young men in devising these $ i «rfarrc§ffTftoT $fairr5fts?i!H things, because, we know that these

yp** *rfi yjkto : ^ sfamf SHRI K. D. MALAVIYA: Unfortu­ nately, the 40 entries that offered a tuft srrft $— h1 fagf q? fa ijjtt- design to us did not comply with the fvzz ^ t* *£«r *rr«r anft tst?it ^ them, but they did not do. Ultimate­ *r> *ft frsps fstfr ^rnw i *ni ut ly, I am glad to announce this to the ^*n: t o ^ r * t fe*r House, after this inability of tbe con­ testants, the Indian Institute of Petro­ * *R i leum and other research and develop­ ment institutes of the Ministry under­ A v t n for dni|ttiB( Economy Stove took the job and they have succeeded in producing a kerosene chulha whose •117. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will efficiency is almost as good as, and m the Minister of PETROLEUM be certain cases better than, the LPG gas pleased to tate efficiency It is on trial. The pro­ totypes have been manufactured I have (a) whether Government had an­ personally seen, at least half a nounced a suitable reward for design­ dozen times, its efficiency Very ing of a safer and less kerosene con­ soon, next week or so, it will be suming economy stove; and finally cleared. The Prime Minister is extremely interested in this Ferhaps (b) if so, the response received she would like to see it before it is thereto? cleared. In the next three or four weeks, we will put this chulha in the THE MINISTER OP PETROLEUM market and advertise properly so that (SHRI K. D. M ALAVIYA): (a) Yes, people might go in for it. If this is Sir. okayed, then we are likely to have a saving of kerosene worth crores and (b ) The total of 40 entries from 28 crores of rupees per annum contestants were received from all over India. However, no prise was awarded SHRI VASANT SATHE; I am thank­ because none of them met the norms ful to the hon. Minister for giving this set for the contest. very encouraging information. Would he also kindly arrange to give a de­ SHRI VASANT BATHE; There is no monstration Of this cfctUho fo ttie Mem­ dearth of talent in our country. There bers of Parliament? II yeu like. 1 can o n * AfiMDtc* SRAYAKA J», SIM

«rnttg* far it in file Vlthalbhai Patel P tw ^ 4« w?rr f % ^ arr^ijT, Hon*. gHfiJ K. D. MALAVIYA: Before this ?ft *1^6^ 15 % 18 •Is finalised, the Ministry will give a v m ^ ^ demonstration of this in the Central Hall or In any other place. w t $ m spfr srT gtfjf i ,inncjp?5 ?re?r ^ TW 91 # : tof TRft 3ff ^TW*ff 5rt ^ w w f ft; ^ ^

genr e srsrft % *cr?s it wppfaar fRyrftarwnT i f^TTTfrt. ^ imT^T W ^TT?n tffaT Gas Commission has entered into a contract with th« Government of Tan. f^r'*s?r % i

(b) if so, the terms and conditions v o wraratar: s to r sprr of the contract? tft W5T * & $ . spnft 5T>»T ^*TT? r qr$i % *rft srfsv tpx s*?sr srr^ * THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (SHRI K. D. MALAVIYA): (a) and WPfT 'Tiff | I (b). The ONGC signed rn agreement on the 20th December, 1975 with the «ft f«rwf?r f»?«r : **5fi aft % wift Tanzaian Petroleum Development Cor­ ar?rrm tfh: gfar spot ftsrr ft: poration (TPDC) for a drilling contract which provides for drilling of one ex­ ploratory well on the Songo Scngo Is- ^it^tt wrsar £ ft? w t t ^ % v * lan<] in Tanzania. It is not an explo­ f«F?prr artf ? iw *jYt ir *ft aw ration contract. TPDC would make payments to ONGC for the work in ^ star £ sraraft §TJ f t ^ fR accordance with the contract. The tV st^rt stfT w *rrafr * contract also stipulates that TPDC ftsrrc «ft sg ^r% ?p> ?nc^ «R xxrr would provide the consumable mate­ rials required for the drilling opera­ WTU'Hr 5R ?Wif ? tion and also meet the local costs such as cost of civil construction works, the W**W» W gtaT: JT? ar’Tcfr ^ 5 fl ^t*r cost of housing accommodation and transport for the crew and the other staff, the cost of unskilled labour, PCL «ft **<> wnMrtar: farcr ^ qnr etc. arrarjT * «ft t w w jrw q fi : anrr *p*arr *r *r f«np Tfr sa*?t ^ i r f W y 28 fa*rr, *rr*t i 3 f «r w&r awm ^ f t 60 62 jfrft i ^ SHRI B. V. NAIK: Whenever in the * 3 * «mrr v^dfsrr *%nr, iffc past the technologically advanced eonntries of file world went in for the ^ r r f v « purpose of drilling operation, they Oral Am tM tt s x m m » * t m Om'dnuiMt*

impeded, though we ate sot ad* jSHBX X . J>. MALAVIYA: I am tarty vocating a neo-colonialism, that a parti­ the tetter P4*t ot tbe question is wholly cular share of the raw crude oqt what­ wrong. I t is « fact that there vas a ever the petroleum product that was blow out and a blow out Is « part ot available, would be available tor the the .fame. We did not succeed. There parent country the technologically was some mistake and an inquiry is advance^ country. In the contracts ot going on as to how it tailed, how the the ONGC with countries less develop­ blow-out occurred and who was res. ed than ours, do we insist upon such a ponsible for the damage. But we have clause or a condition? Is it accept* already dtspaiched a second and able? Has it been tried and it so, what new rig to ihe place at our own cost so are the reactions ot the host country? that we may complete the agreement

SHRI K D M ALAVIYA This is a When a well is drilled and a mistake specific agreement made with the Tan­ occurs, then it occurs and nobody can zanian Government and it is based on help it We hope to finish the second co-operation and friendship We do well successfully and then we %ill not intend to have any arrangement, pursue the future operations business like or commercial with Tan­ zania We have agreed to drill a well SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD I there Unfortunately, there was an want to know whether this contract explosion and we are now dnling an­ with the Tanzanian Government is a other well there AU that we have part of our effort to build up a consul­ asked for is the actual cost of drilling tancy system m this country either for and there is no commercial agreement commercial purpose or for a one like between us and Tanzania this Or is it a just a simple single contract7 If it is a part of the whole SHRI VASANT SATHE I would like complex, how far will it develop our to know whether this contract is only consultancy system and our technical for drilling or also for tbe establish­ know-how? ment of the other plant that goes with oil exploration SHRI K D M ALAVIYA It is only SHRI K. D MALAVIYA The gas a beginning of the process and I hope field seems to have been c'i

© P U K . LAKKAPPA: Some Mem­ fW ft ber* ate absent There are in portent question*. ♦103. Ifc* : «WT MB. SPEAKBR; If the Members are not present, I cannot help it.

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: The Speaker (v ) w r can put important questions. You tfrfasfy tm x have got enormous powers. f t infos ssroerr uf j; rtr MR. SPEAKER: I am Mepired to ac­ cept the advice provided tie JIember ( ’ar) *rf* irra£ «nrr is present. I?

Let me see whether any other hon. Member is present No. The Qiestion fiffa, «iw iftt vwpft fmt List is over. («ft xf*o m *o ntatfr): (* ) sftqff i

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WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Production of Nitrogenous and Phos- phatic Fertilisers Consultancy Agreements with Foreign Countries for Development of Offshore •105. SHRI K. MALL ANN A: Will Areas the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: *101. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: Win (a) what is the present installed the Minister of PETROLEUM be production capacity of nitrogenous pleased to state: and phosphatic fertilisers in the coun­ try; , (a) whether the Central Govern­ ment are considering to explore possi­ (b) whether the production la bilities of long term consultancy agree­ enough to meet the present fertilizer ments with advanced countries for demand in the country; and the development of offshore areas in (c) if not, the steps Government India; propose to take in this regard? (b) whether U.S.A., Trance and THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Britain have not agreed to such pro­ AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. posals; and SETHI): (a) The present installed capacity for the production of ferti­ (c) whether any country has agreed lizers is 29 73 lakh tonnes of nitrogen to help India in this regard? and 6.92 lakh tonnes of P209.

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (b) and (c). The indigenous pro­ (SHRI K. D. M A L A V IY A ): (a) Yes, duction of fertilizers during 1978-77 Sir. is expected to be 19.5 lakh tonnes of nitrogen and 4.8 lakh tonnes of (b) and (c). Some foreign compa­ P205. The requirement of fertilizers nies have ihown interest in the mat­ for the year 1976-77 as estimated by ter- It ia not in the public interest the Ministry of Agriculture is 88> to disclose any detefl* in this regard TaVh tonnes of nitrogen, 6 lakh towm ** tU> tftefR. of P205 and 8.8 lakh tonne* o f potash. •*3 W ritten Awoms AWWJSS& |¥, aAitrtftfa?

Ag th* total quantity ot tertiliaei* M M K r Lift Of fuftfm tif mgb available Wth by way of indigenous Cbart* production and the stocks with the manufacturers and the Central Bfcrti- *109. SHRI A. K. KOTRASHETTI: Ji*er pool at -the beginning of the year Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE: fall short of the estimated require­ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleas­ ment of fertilizers, arrangements for ed to state: adequate imports have been made to meet the gap. There is no indigenous (a) whether there is any proposal production of potassic fertilisers and before Government to Maintain a the requirements thereof are met en­ seniority list of Judges of all the tirely through imports. High Courts in India; and

(b) whether there is also a pro­ posal to transfer the Chief Justices Kirpal Singh Committee Report on from one High Court to the other? Railway Security THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI •107. SHRI P. GANGA REDDY: H. R. GOKHALE): (a) There is no Will the Minister of RAILW AYS be such proposal. pleased to state: (b) Under article 222 of the Consti­ (a) whether Kirpal Singh Com­ tution, the President may after con­ mittee on railway security and pro­ sultation with the Chief Justice of tection has submitted its report to India transfer a Judge, including th? Government; and Chief Justice of a High Court, from one High Court to another Hiqh (b ) if so, the salient features of the Court. Recently, two Chief Justices report? were transferred.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Means to check Contents of I P 6 THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Cylinders (SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI): *112. SHRI N. K. SANGHI: Will

of fiStag and sealed before being sent out to tile retailers. Checks are Work m i Qaftmtt* Tube ftattw*? «l*o> «* d e ' at f t * showrooms and godowns of the dealers. Farther, the *tl4. SHRl R. N. BARMAN: weight of empty cylinder is indicated on it* body. The weight of LPG in SHRI K. M. ‘MADHUKAR’: the cylinder can be ebeeked by weighing it, and deducting the tare W ill the Minister of RAILW AYS weight therefrom. The weighing of be pleased to state: cylinders can be got done at the showroom/godown of the dealer in (a) whether the work on the Cal­ the customer’s presence, if so desired. cutta Tube Railway is proceeding as per schedule; and Prices of State Trading Corporation Drags (b) if not, reasons therefor?

*113. SHRI K. S. CHAVDA: Will the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of CHEMICALS AND FER­ MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI TILIZERS be pleased to state: BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). The ori­ ginal schedule to complete the pro-, fa) whether the prices of drug items ject by 1979 has had to be re­ imported through the State Trading vised due to the constraint in resour­ Corporation were increased by Gov­ ces. The Planning Commission have ernment in April, 1978; indicated that only limited funds will fb) whether with effect from April, be available for this Project in the 1976 State Trading Corporation has remaining years of the Fifth Plan. started charging revised prices but no It is not possible to make any forecast price increases have been allowed to for completion of the Project until any units for formulations manufac­ a clear picture is available regarding tured out of raw materials purchased the resources position in the Sixth from State Trading Corporation; and Ban. Cc) if so, reasons for the same? Indane Gas Dealerships to Unemploy­ THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS ed Graduates AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. SETHI): (a) Yes, Sir. Prices of *115 SHRI SHYAM SUNDER drug items imported through the MOHAPATRA: Will the Minister of State Chemicals and Pharmaceutical PETROLEUM be pleased to state: Corporation of India were revised 0X1 an interim basis in April 1976 and on (a) whether any priority is being a final basis on 1st August 1976. The given by his Ministry to unemployed revision took Into account changes in graduates of sound financial position customs duty as well as changes in in granting licence of Indane gee c.i.f. prices. In some cases prices dealerships; and were enhanced and in other cases prices were reduced. (b) if so, the facts thereof?

(b) and (e). Consequent to the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM revision of imported drug pi ices, for- (SHRI K. D. M A LA V IYA ): (a) and mulators have submitted applications (b ). Under its Social Objective* to Bureau o f Industrial Cost and Scheme, preference is being given by Prices for revision of price of formu­ IOC, amongst other eligible categories, lations based on such imported drug. to unemployed engineers/graduates That is being looked into by the also in selecting dealers for Indane Bureau of Industrial Cost and Prices as per fixed formula. gas. 3 7 AUGUST 17, ‘HMMm J k m * * ' aft

rw po iBi m M v » t w i M i M t * f o » which a*» producing ttrttawts to «K Coastal Marine W aiew a f % « ( their fuUcapwiity and these which a»e g n |g E eo M sk not? Z n « THE MINISTER OB4 CHEMICALS *116. SHRI P. GANGADEB: Will and fertilizers (shri p. g. "tbe Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AMD SETHI): Production and capacity COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to utilisation of nitrogen and phos£hatic 'state: units during the year 1975-76 and during the period April—July 1976 of (a) whether Government propose to the current yjear are given In state­ declare 200 nautical miles of the ment I and statement n laid on the coastal marine waters of Bay of Table of the House. [Placed in Lib­ 'Bengal and Arabian Sea as economic rary. See No. L T -11128/76]. zone laying claim to all fishing and mineral rights within it; and Savings doe to cut in import of (b) if so, steps taken in this re­ Components and Spue Farts gard? *120. SHRI JAGANNATH MIS- HRA* W ill the Minister of R AIL­ THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE WAYS be pleased to state: AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI H. R GOKHALE): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Railways have effected substantial cut in the import of (b) On May 27, 1970, Parliament components and spqre parts; and amended article 297 of the Constitu­ tion vesting lands, minerals and other (b) if so, the total saving on this things of value underlying the terri­ account during 1975-76’ torial waters, the continental shelf and the exclusive economic zone m the Union by the 40th amendment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI): Powers have been taken under this amendment to specify the limits of (a) and (b) Yes, Sir A large num­ territorial waters, continental shelf ber of items which bad hitherto been and the exclusive zone by a parka* imported have been taken out from mentary law The Bill for this pur­ the import list thus effecting a saving pose was introduced in Rajya Sabha of foreign exchange to the time of on 28-5-1976 and passed by it on Rs 5 crores (approximately) during 10-8-1976. Lok Sabha has yet to pass 1975-76. The net effect of this mea­ it. By clause 7 of this the limit of sure will, however, be known in two the exclusive economic zone is 200 year’s time. nautical miles measured from the ap­ propriate base line and is beyond and Suburban Railway facilities between adjacent to the territorial waters of Burdwan and Asaartl and between India. PurgapurJBanlgnn) and Aaansol

Fertiliser Units producing at full 842 SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: Capacity Will the Minister of RAILW AYS be pleased to state: •119. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: ^Wa^the Minister of CHEMICALS (a) whether the long standing AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to demand of the local passenjfew* mer­ atate the names of the fertilizer units chants and public to introduce » AMW rr. SSAVANA 28, im

-suburban railway facilities between derably ta compared to the prodiss Burdwaa an* Asansol and between Du^WMtf-HanlfsaiJ^igansol sections tion during the same period of 1975. i* . tunning of more local and Shuttle The working results during the quar­ trains ia tMs section, is proposed to ter January-March, 1976 have resul­ be fulfilled by his Ministry; and ted in a surplus for the first (b) if #o, how and when? during the past three years,

(b ) The Japanese strain and tech­ THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE nology have been introduced since MINISTRY OP RAILWAYS (SHRI April, 1976 and this has improved the BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). A fast morning/evening express between productivity considerably. Howrah and Asansol for daily pas* sengers has been introduced from (c) The company have submitted 14-8-78. At present there is no other * to the Government a number of proposal to provide shuttle trains. schemes for expansion/diversification during the Fifth Plan period. The Production by Pimprl Drag Unit Company will start implementing these schemes as soon as they have 848. SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL: received the approval of Government, W ill the Minister of CHEMICALS ANT} FERTTT/JO il k S be pleased to (d) The Planning Commission have state: made a revised allocation of Rs. 948.60 lakhs for the expansion/diver­ (a) -whether Pimpri, a sick plant sification of projects of Hindustan oi Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd. has recovered in the first half of 1976 Antibiotics Ltd. during the Fifth Plan and made profit during the quarter period. The company anticipate that of January-March, 1976; these schemes, when implemented, would provide additional employment (b) whether the Japanese strain opportunities to the extent of 3280 and technology have been introduced since April, 1976 and that have resul­ persons. ted in increase in production;

(c) has the expansion programme wmrar w r wfeit fWtarcf S wnftisft/ *oade its start and when is it likely to be completed; and wofanft vAstf *T *nwr fwn ®rnn

(d) what is the amount sanctioned r the new project and what is the 844. irn w i tffarar: ®cope of additional employment?

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(v) w*rr jffrprs «rn?r rr^-^r % (*! ) ?T^f^T Sfrfff m *rfwft T 7 srirp; $*,- g r* frroff?r «Pt ^rnr ^fr 7 ffpr f^* «tv 1 1 fa:*n 3T w %, uft*- Proposal to upgrade Kalka a»d Simla Stations ( j ) qrfe ?r, ;ft ? v q-v fzpr jjtt f5T0T'7 '-f fffffRf facrnr ^7 | ’ 848. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR; Will the Minister of RAILW AYS be pleased to state: ^ % 3 i-vrii

(b) if so, whether sanction has been given to any firm? , % ffc? n f

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 832. *r> : f?rr 1 * MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI f t yTr fa • ZIAUR' RAHMAN ANSARI)- (a) and (b). The Government received an appli­ (*?) w r ot* cation from Messrs E.I.D. Parry for manufacture of 50,000 tonnes per an­ num of high density polyethylene It ^rffqp based on natural £rs. The applica­ % fa * jftar-n srrcffr j ^ r f a tion lacked necessary details regard­ ing financing and viability of the project and was not considered for approval. («r) *rf? ?rf

Oil exploration In Uttar Pradesh 5 * * j f 1 {4 t i n F tt) 850. SHRI R. K. SINHA: Will the (* ) 3ft i Minister of PITTROLEUM be pleased to state whether there is any propo­ (sr) star fr % %t4t frir sal for off exploration in Uttar Pradesh? f t 1 1 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): Yes, Foreign contract bagged by RITES Sir. The ONGC proposes to undertak* drilling at Parewa in Bareilly district 853. SHRI DHAMANKAR* and at Puranpur in Pilibhit dictrict. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHAPATRA-

Proposal to connect Patna with Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Madra* via Ta tan agar be pleased to state:

851 SARDAR SWARAN SINGH (a) how many foreign Railway SOKHI: Will the Ministar of R AIL­ contracts have so far been bagged by W AYS be pleased to state: our Rail India Technical and Econo­ mic Services; (a) whether there is any proposal (b) which are the countries which to connect Patna. Capital of Bihar have awarded these contracts; and State, with Madras via Tatanagar (Jamshedpur) by another fast ex­ (c) what is the value of each con* press Train in the near future; and tract and what are the projects for which these contracts have been (b) if so, by when? secured?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILW AYS (SHRI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) to (c). A state­ BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). No, ment giving the required information not so far. is enclosed. Written Antu>erg SRAVANA 26, 1898 ( SAKA ) Written Answer* 38

Statement

Name of Value of the Nature of assignment Current Status the contract award'd country to the R.I.T.E.S. (Rs.in lakh)

Syria 24-75 Preliminary feasibility-cnm-cogt survey Project completed and togpthvwith economic study of three report submitted to new railway lines— the Syrian Railway au­ thorities. fa) Deir-Ez-Zor-Palmyra (b) Deir-Ez-Zor-Abu Kamal (c) Latakia and Tartus. Iran 21-45 Preliminary feasibility-ciim-cost study Project completed a nd re­ of a new railway line between port submitted to Im­ Kerman and Shurgar. perial Govt, of Iran. Iran Cost plus Upgradttion of existing line between RITES’ team of experts overheads Mirjaveh and Zahedan. has gone there to study the line and prepare their report. Ziite 8 7 Secondment of Railway experts and 9 ncpfrts arc already provide nec-ssary back-up services functioning in Zaire and on consultancy basis 3 more are due to leave shortly.

Ghana . 6-0 Study of the existing railway system 6 experts are scheduled for formulation of recommendations to leave for Ghana as withaviewto improve the operating «oor asiritial advance efficiency of maintenance

Phosphatic Fertilizer Plant near and Development Corporation for set­ Mangalore Port ting up phosphatic capacity at Manga­ lore; the letter of intent has since 854. SHRI P R. SHENOY: Will lapsed. Applications have been re­ the Minister of CHEMICALS AND ceived from a private party support­ FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: ed by the Karnataka Government and from Mangalore Chemicals and Ferti­ (a) whether a licence has been lizers Ltd. for setting up phosphatic issued for commissioning a phospha- fertilizer capacity near Mangalore tic fertilizer plant near New Manga­ and are under consideration. lore Port;

(b) if so, the names of parties uti­ (c) No, Sir. lizing the licence; and Titanium Dioxide Pigments Project (c) whether permission for com­ missioning the plant had been refus­ 855. SHRI A K. GOPALAN; Will ed earlier to a party on the ground the Minister of CHEMICALS AND that the plant would cause water FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: pollution? (a) whether Union Government has approved the proposal made by the THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Kerala Government for Titanium AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. Dioxide pigments project; and SETHI): (a) and (b). A letter of intent was issued in 1974 to the Kar­ (b) if so, the salient features of the nataka State Industrial Investment project? 39 W ritten Answer* AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Ansxtert

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the satisfaction of the Government. MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND Such equipments would be impor­ FERTILIZERS (SHRI C. P. MAJHI): ted strictly in keeping with the (a) Yes Sir, Two proposals have capacity proposed to be licenced. been approved. 3. The firm would contact the (b) 1 M/S. The Kerala Minerals Department of Atomic Energy to and Metals Ltd., Quilon a Govern­ secure technical know-how neces­ ment of Kerala undertaking were sary for the production of Tita­ granted a Letter of Intent on 15-8-74 nium Dioxide etc. for the manufacture of 48,000 tonnes of Titanium Dioxide per annum on Foreign Collaboration to produce the basis of maximum utilisation of Synthetic Rutile using effluents from *>lant ana machinery subject to the their existing plant in the first phase following conditions:__ of implementation of project has also been approved on 1-12-75. The 1. The need for and the terms of manufacture of Titanium Dioxide pig­ foreign collaboration, if any. shall ments from Synthetic Rutile via be settled to the satisfaction of the Chloride route will be in the second Government. phase. 2- Th« arrangements for the Im­ port of plant and machinery shall Advisory Counci] for Institute of be settled to the satisfaction of the Petroleum Exploration Government of India. 836. DR RANEN SEN; Will the 3. The manufacture of Titanium Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased Dioxide will be by the Chloride pro­ to state: ' cess. (a) whether an Advisory Council for the Institute of Petroleum Explo­ M/S Kerala Minerals and Metals ration Ihns been constituted; have submitted a foreign collabora­ tion proposal also to implement the (b) if so, the names of the mem­ project to the annual capacity of bers and subjects to be discussed by 22,000 tonnes in tne first phase, which the Advisory Council; and is under consideration of the Govern­ ment. (c) whether the Advisory Council will also keep track of qualified en­ gineers who could be employed gain­ 2. Besides the above, M/S. Travan- fully? core Titanium Products Ltd., Triven- drum a public sector undertaking under the Kerala Government who THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE already hold a licence for manufac­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ture ° f 24,500 tonnes of Titanium ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI); (a) Dioxide per annum were also granted Yes, Sir. a letter of intent on 29-7-72 to estab­ (b) The Advisory Council has lish a Titanium Complex comprising been constituted to (i) render advice twelve items, including Titanium on research and development pro­ Dioxide to the extent of 15,000 tonnes grammes of Institute of Petroleum per annum via Chloride route, sub­ Exploration ONGC, (ii) make sugges­ ject to the following conditions: — tions for application of results of re­ 1. The term of foreigp collabora­ search leading to development of new tion would be settled to the satis­ concepte in the natural sciences, and faction of the Government. (iii) consider any other matter that may be referred to it mainly connec­ 2. Import of Capital Goods would ted with the Research and Develop­ he allowed in accordance with the ment programmes of the Institute of procedure in vogue and subject to Petroleum Exploration. 41 Written Answers SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) W ritten Answers

Names of the members ol this Survey for New Railway Line* Council are:— 1. Shri C. Karunakaran, Officer 858. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: on Special Duty, ONGC. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 2. Dr. Hari Narain, Director, HGR1, . (a) whether a large number of sur* 3. Shri M. V. A Sastry, Director, veys are under way for new railway Palaeontology and Stratigraphy lines in various parts of the country; Division, GSI, Calcutta. and

4. Dr. K. Naha, Prof. of Geology, (b) if so, the progress of such sur­ Indian Institute of Technology, veys in various States? Kharagpur.

5. Dr. B. K. Sahu. Prof. of Geo­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE logy, Indian Institute of Techno­ MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI logy, Powai, Bombay. BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. 6. Dr. S. Z. Qasim, Director, Na­ (b) A statement is laid on the Table tional Institute of Oceanography, of the House. [Placed in Library. See NIO, Post Office, Doona Paula No. LT-11127/76.] (Goa). 7. Dr. B. G. Deshpande, Head of Department of Geology, University New Railway Lines between Jagadhr) of Poona. and Ponta and from Jagadhri to Chandigarh 8. Dr. Jagdish Shankar, Director, University Grants Commission. New 859. SHRI RAM PRAKASH: Will Delhi. the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased 9. Shri S. N. Talukdar, Director, to state- Institute of Petroleum Exploration, ONGC, Dehradun. (a) whether any survey has been conducted for laying railway lines bet­ 10. Shri V. V. Sastri. Director ween Jagadhri and Ponta and from (R & D), IPE ONGC. Dehradun. Jagadhri to Chandigarh; and (c) No, Sir. (b) if so, amount spent on this sur­ New Drug Policy vey and the tentative date for the commencement of the work? 857. SHRI RAJA KULKARNI: Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE whether Government have finalised MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and approved new drug policy and the BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. role of the foreign drug companies? THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (b) The cost of the survey between AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. Jagadhri-Ponta Sahib Rajban was SETHI): The Hathi Committee in Rs. 4.96 lakhs and the cost of their report has made recommend a- survey between Jagadhri-Chandigarh- tions on the various facets cf the Ludhiana was Rs. 5.82 lakhs. Both drugs industry. Keeping in mind these these projects were not found to be recommendations and other factors, viable on financial considerations. Government is in the process of fram­ (Due to unremunerative nature of the ing a new drug policy which will also project and the very limited availa­ cover the role of the foreign drug bility of resources, it is not proposed 'Companies. to take up the projects at present. 43 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Answers

Proposal for Setting up Fertiliser (b) which are the countries that Plants during next ten years will collaborate in the setting up of these fertilizer plants? 860. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FER­ TILIZERS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (a) what are the locations of the AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. fertilizers plants proposed to be set up SETHI) 1 (a) The following projects In India during the coming one decade; are under implementation at the loca­ and tions shown against them:—

N-m v of the Project Locition/State

Fertilizer Corporation of India Limited (1) T a l c h e r...... Orissa ( 2) Ramagundam...... Andhra Pradesh (3) H a l d i a ...... ^4) K o r b a ...... Madhya Pradesh (5) Sind»-i Rationalisation ...... Bihar (6) Sindri Modernisation...... Bihar (7) Nan gal Expansion ...... Punjab (8) Trombay IV E x p a n s io n ...... Maharashtra (9) Trombay V Expansion...... Maharashtra

Fertilizers and Chemical*, Travaticore Limited. ( 10) Cochin Phase—I I ...... Kerala ( 11) Madras Fertilizers Ltd.. (Expansion)...... Tamil Nadu

National Fertilizers Ltd. ( 12) P a n ip a t...... Haryana ( 13) Bhatinda...... Punjab ( 14) IFFCO—P h u lp u r ...... Uttar Pradesh (15) Maharashtra Co-operative Chemicals & Fertilizers, Tarapur . Maharashtra ( 16) G.S.F.C. (E x p a n s io n )...... Gujarat

In addition, the following projects have been approvedfor implementation in principle:—. 1. Kota (Expansion)...... Rajasthan 2. Kakinada project...... Andhra Pradesh 3. M a th u r a ...... U.P. 4. P a ra d e e p...... Orissa 45 W ritten Answers SRAVANA 20, 1899 (SAKA) W ritten Answers 46

(b) No foreign collaboration is en­ sitar makers of Miraj is being re­ visaged In the implementation of these peatedly raised for the last few years: project*. However, import of equip­ ment and services would be made from (b) whether during his recent visit the best possible source using appro­ to Miraj, South Central Railway, the priate credits. Minister of State for Railways was apprised of the injustice that was being done in the matter; and

(c) if so, what concrete steps are to sr# *nf being taken to solve the problem and relieve the Sitar makers of the undue 861 . f t *rf : «WT freight burden? f t ^TTT SF^ mraV MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes ^ TcWT* 3Tfr»nT ?TRpl V faV fffsrr ^ (41 W*Tfar*): On a further representation, the (*) f t ?rff i Govt have again decided, as a special case, that in cases where four sitars are bundled together, the weight («)&(*) *$t -STSTr I should be reckoned on the total volume (and not separately on each sitar) or on actual weight, whichever is higher, and charges recovered after allowing Freight Concession to Sitar Makers ot the normal free allowance In such Mlraj (South Central Railway) cases, however, the bundled sitars are required to be properly crated and 862. SHRI ANNASAHEB GOT- carried in the brake-van with a view KHINDE: Will the Minister of RAIL- to avoiding inconvenience to other WAYS be pleased to state: passengers in the compartment. It would thus be observed that certain (a) whether the question of grant­ concessions have already been allowed ing concessions in freight on altars for te the trade. 47 Written Antmere AUGUST 17, 1076 Written Anttoer* 48

Running of New Delhi -Mangalore under enquiry with the MRTP Com­ Cochin Jsyutl Janata from mission on an application filed by the Trivaadrum Registrar of Restrictive Trade Agree, ments.

864. SHRI C. H. MOHAMMED KOYA: Consultancy deal with a French SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR: Company

Will the Minister of RAILW AYS 886. SHRI D. B. CHANDRA be pleased to state: GOWDA: (a) whether Government propose to SHRI D. K. PANDA: run the New Delhi-Mangalore-Cochin Jayanti Janata Express from Trivan­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM drum after commissioning of the Tri- be pleased to state: vandrum-Quilon broad gauge line; and (a) whether a team of French (b) if so, the salient features there­ Company, CFP., visited India and of? held discussions with the concerned authorities recently; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Ob) whether the French Company BUTA SINGll): (a) and (b). Immedi­ has offered package consultancy on ately after opening of Quilon-Ema- production and development of Bom­ kulam Broad Gauge line, the speed bay High region? on the newly laid track will be low. Extension of 131/132 Nizamuddin- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Mangalore/Cochin Jayanti Janata MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI Express to and from Trivandrum ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) Central can only be considered when Yes, Sir. the speed is increased and additional maintenance facilities are developed (b) Yes, Sir. at Trivandrum. Oil Exploration in Rajasthan Manufacture of Drugs by Mjs. Ciba Geigy, Ciba Atul and AtuI 867. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD MANDAL: Will the Minister of 865. SHRI NANUBHAI N. PATEL: PETROLEUM be pleased to state: Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to (a) whether any progress has been state: made to explore oil in Rajasthan; and (a) whether M/,s. Ciba Geigy Ciba Atul and Atul manufacture drug in­ (b) if so, the broad feature thereof? termediates in such a way that none of them is producing upto the final THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE stage; and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (b) if so, particulars of their inter­ ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) and related activities, names of items pro­ (bV ONGC has so far drilled 15 wells duced and supplied to others, quan­ on five structures in Rajasthan. Ex­ tities supplied during the past three cept for a small gas find at Manhera years and prices charged? Tibba which was not of commercial significance, no Hydro carbons have THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS so far been found in Rajasthan. AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. Presently drilling is going on at SETHI):

Ote of Saloons/Iiua>ectton Carriages Ob) if so, particulars of items, their sales during last three years for these 868. SHRI R. P. YADAV: Will the items and the authority responsible Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to for allowing the import of raw mate­ state: rials; and (a) what is the criteria for attach­ (c) the action Government propose ing saloons or inspection carriages to to take against- these companies? different trains; (b) how many saloons have been THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS attached to trains at Delhi Junction AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. and New Delhi Junction during the SETHI): (a) to (c). No instance of last six months together with the manufacturing any formulation with­ particulars of trains; and out an industrial licence or approval by M/s. Glaxo, Pfizer, May and (c) the officers using these saloons Baker, Sandoz and Abbot has come to with dates and the type of saloons? the notice of the Government during the last three years. Any such in­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE stance which will come to the notice MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI or which may be brought to the notice BTITA SINGH): (a) While saloons of Government will be suitably in­ are attached to various trains for Min- vestigated and dealt with in accor­ isters of Central Government, Gover­ dance with the law. nors of States, other Indian and Foreign Dignitaries and High Govern­ ment Officials for their official tours, Projects for New Railway Lines Ex­ the Inspection Carriages are attached tension of Rail lines and Conversion for all Gazetted Officers of the Rail­ of MG to BG Lines in Kerala ways for their inspection of the work­ (Southern Railway) ing of the Railways. The use of these 870. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI TH- carriages for Railway Officials is for ANKAPPAN: Will the Minister of functional purposes only, such as when they are required to go out on duty RAILWAYS be pleased to state: for inspection; these serve as ‘office on (a) particulars of the main projects wheels' and provide facility for the which are in hand and under consi­ officer’s stay. These saloons/inspec­ deration of Government for the cons­ tion carriages are not, however, allow­ truction of new railway lines, exten­ ed to be attached <0 Janata trains and sion of railway lines and for convert­ certain nominated important trains. ing metre gauge into broad gauge lines in the State of Kerala on South­ (b) and (c). A statement is laid ern Railway; on the Table of the House. fPlnced in Library. See No. LT-11128/761. (b) the progress of these projects; and Production of Drug Form illations by Foreign Drug Companies without (c) when will they be completed? Industrial Licences 869. SHRI S. M. SOLANKI- Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) to (c). Work is fa) whether a number of foreign in progress in respect of the following companies like Glaxo, Pfizer, May & Railway projects, falling partly or Raker, Sandoz and Abbot are pro­ wholly In the State'of Kerala. Tbe ducing number of drug formulations present position in respect of theSe without Industrial licence; projects is indicated below. 5i W ritten Anwxrs AUOUST 17. 1976 Written Answer*

1. BG railway line from Tirunelveli stead of Niza-muddin in view of the to Trivandrum vie Nagercoil with a difficulties experienced by the public; branch line ■ to Kanyakumari—180 and kms. (b) if so, what action has been Construction work is already in taken in the matter? progress. The overall physical pro-' gress is 35.5 per cent. In view of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE very limited availability of funds for MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI the construction of new rail links, the BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. project is now likely to be completed by 1980. (b) Running of 131/132 Nizamuddin- Mangalore/Cochin Jrvanti Janta to 2. Conversion of MG line into BG and from New D eio is not opera­ from Emakulam to Trivandrum— tionally feasible at present for want 221 kms. of requisite terminal facilities at New Conversion work on the project is Delhi. already in progress and the overall progress is 92 per cent. The section Cases against Newspaper Industry from Emakulam to Quilon has already with MRTP Commission been opened to traffic. The Quilon- Trivandrum section is expected to be 872. SHRI H. N. MUKHERJEE: opened for traffic shortly. The latest Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE cost of the whole project may be AND COMPANY AFFAIRS’be pleased about Rs. 16 crores (approx.) to state:

In addition to the above projects, (a) how many cases are pending the following proposals for new lines before Monopolies and Restrictive are under examination, falling in the Trade Practices Commission against States of Kerala. the Newspaper industry for violating (i) Kuttipuram to Trichur via the Company Affairs regulations; Guruvayor Length 61 kms Cost (b) whether any new notice was Rs. 12 crores—'Engineering and traffic served on a newspaper recently; and surveys have been completed and the survey reports are under examination. (c) if so, the facts thereof? (ii) Emakulam—Alleppey—Length 50.77 kms—Cost Rs. 483 lakhs. En­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE gineering and Traffic Surveys have MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND been completed at the cost of the State COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI BEDA- Government. The survey reports have BRATA BARUA): (a) The MRTP just been received. A final decision Commission does not and is not em­ regarding this project will be taken powered to take action for violating after reports are examined in all the Company Affairs regulations. aspects. However, in terms of the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Act, Operation of New Delhi-Mangalore- 1969, the Commission can institute in­ Codiin Jayanti Janta Express quiries only for violating the provi­ sions relating to Restrictive and Mono­ 871. SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR- polistic Trade practices under the Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be MRTP Act, 1969. At present 18 cases pleased to state: involving a number of Companies are pending before the Monopolies and (a) whether Government have re. Restrictive Trade Practices Commis­ ceived any representations to the sion against the newspaper industry, effect that the New Delhi-Mangalore- Coehin Jayanti Janta Express should (b) No, Sir. operate from New DeSii Station in* '(c) Does not arise. 53 Written Answers SRAVANA. 28. 1898 (SAKA) W ritten Answers

Fvogre* of Metropolitan Transport cauaes of railway accidents that Project (Hallways) Calcotto occurred between January and July 1976; and 873. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas, ed to state: (b) if so, the precautionary measures taken in this regard? (a) whether the progress of Metro­ politan Transport Project (Railways), Calcutta has been very slow; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRl (b) if so, the stePs being contem­ BUTA SINGH): (a) No. plated to expedite the project?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) Does not arise. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes, due to cons­ traint on resources. Pilferage and Thefts at Mughal Sarai (b) Close contact is being maintain­ Yard ed with the Planning Commission to obtain as much funds as is possible 876. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will keeping in view the overall require­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased ments of the economy. to :>tate:

Search for Oil Deposits in Tamil Nadu (a) the position with regard to 874. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- pilferage and theft of coal, kerosene, THAM: fans and other railway property at Mughal Sarai Yard and compensation SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU; claimed thereon since the beginning Will the Minister of PETROLEUM of the emergency; and be pleased to state: (a) whether any attempt has been (b) how does it compare with the made to find oil deposits in Tamil figures of the corresponding period Nadu; and prior to that? (b) if so, the facts thereof and with what results? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). No casa MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI of theft/pilferage of coal and kerosene ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI)': (a) oil was registered during the period Yes, Sir. from July, 74 to June, 75 and July, 75 (b) A number of wells have been to June, 76 at Mughalsarai. drilled in different parts of Tamil Nadu. No oil or gas of commercial However, one case of theft of elec­ significance has been found. tric fan and 95 cases of other Railway property and fittings were registered Railway Accidents due to Sabotage during one year preceding the emer­ gency and one case of theft of electric 875. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHY AM: fan and 72 cases of other Railway pro­ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be perty and fittings were registered dur­ pleased to state: ing one year after emergency. Ques­ (a) whether Government are aware tion of compensation claim paid due that sabotage by some interested to pilferage/theft of Railway property persons or groups was ope of the does not arise. 55 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Answers

Essential Commodities Depots for employees is primarily the responai- Railways Employees bility of the State Governments. However, Railwaymen's Consumer 878. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- Co-operative Societies organised by SHNAN: Will the Minister of RAIL­ Railwaymen as well as State-autho- WAYS be pleased to state how many rised dealers have set up a number essential commodities depots have of fair price shops in Railway colo­ been opened by Government for the nies. In all 1318 fair price shops— Railways employees zone-wise since 419 run by Railwaymen’s Consumer the proclamation of emergency? Co-operative Societies and 899 by State-authorised dealers—are at pm- sent functioning. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): Supply of foodgrains 2. The zone-wise number of fair and other essential commodities to the price shops opened since the procla­ general public including the Railway mation of the emergency is as under:

No of Fair Price Shops opened Name of Zonal Railway from July 1975 to June 1976 by Total Railwayman’s Rtate-authori- Con<>umcr Co- s'dd'nkrs. operative Socie­ ties.

1. C ntral R ailw ay...... 1 1 2. Eastern R ailw ay...... - -7 3. Northern Railway .... 2 2 4. North Eastern Railway .... 5. Northeast Frontier Railway . 2 2 6. Southern Railway ....

7 . South Central Railway .... 1 1 2 8. South Eastern Railway .... 1 1 9. Western Railway . . 2 2

T o t a l ...... 9 8 17

proposal to engage Foreign Contract (b) if so, the broad outlines of its Drillers terms and conditions and tbe progress thereof? 879. SHRI N. E. HORO: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to state: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (a) whether Government propose to ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) Ye», engage foreign contract drillers for Sir. carrying out exploratory dri^ 8 for (b) Offers have been invited by the oil on land with the help of hdi-rigs; ONGC, which are yet to be received. .and - - • 5 7 ' W “m X"*“ *r' SRAVANA. M, 1801

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Tbroqfffa Train between Kalka and Relaying of dismantled Railway wm Bombay 896. SHRI R.K. SINHA: W ill the 894. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of Minister of RAILW AYS be pleased to state: RAILW AYS be pleased to state: (a) the extent to which the disman­ (a) whether a request has been re­ tled railway lines have so far been re» ceived by Goverment for the running laid in various parts of the country; of a through train between Kalka and Bombay to cater the needs of tourists (b) the names of railway lines which for as also to con­ were dismantled earlier and have not nect Chandigarh with Bombay; and so far been laid; and (b) if so, the decision taken by Gov­ (c) the proposal under consideration ernment thereon? for relaying those railway lines? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH); (a) anrf (b). A (b) This will be considered along- statement is attached. with requests for other trains. (c) As a result of development of Railway line between Ernakulam and alternate mean*; of transport awfl Kayamkulam in Kerala State because of stringent financial position it has not been possible to take up 895. SHRI V AYALAR RAVI: Will the restoration work on the remaining the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased lines. to state: STATEMENT (a) whether Government have tak­ en a final decision regarding the cons­ (a) Dismentled Railway 1 ines so far truction ox a Railway line tonnccling Restored are as under- Ernakulam with Kayamkulam via Alleppey in Kerala State; and 1. Modura-Bodinayakanui. 2. Shoranur-Nilambur. (b) if so, the salient features there­ 3. Vasad-Kathana. of and what progress has been made so far in this matter? 4. Bobbli-Salur. 5. Nagrota-Jogindemagar. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 6. Bijnore-Chandpur Siau. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 7 Unnao-Madhoganj-Balamau BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). B. Utraitia-Sultanpur-Zafarabad Survev for a railway line from 9 Khairada-Bhimsen. Ernakulam to Alleppey has been com­ pleted and the survey report is under 10. Bhagalpur-Mand arhill. examination. A decision regarding 11. Tinpahar-Rajmahal. construction of the line will be taken 12. Rohtak-Gohana. as soon as the examination is com­ pleted, and would depend upon the 13. Cambay Bunder Siding. availability of resources. 14. Dalmau-Daryapur. 15. Akbarpur-Tanda. No proposal is at present under consideration for extending the line 16. Saraigarh-Raghopur Partapganj. upto Kayamkulam. 17. Partapganj .Forbeaganj. 69 Written Answer, SRAVANA 28, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

Restoration Work in Progress Associations and the people in general I. Gohana-Panipat. for electrification of Bandel Katwa line? (b) Dismantled Railway Lines not yet Restored are as under: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 1. Madhoganj-Auhadpur. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 2. Tirupattur-Krishnagiri. BUTA SINGH); A Preliminary exami­ .3. Morappur-Hosur. nation of the electrification of the 4. Gosaigaon-Kakilamukh Ghat. Bandel-Katwa section of the Eastern Railway has revealed that sufficient 5. Cocanada-Kotipalli. capacity is available with the existing 6. Moranhat-Khowang. form of traction to cope up with the 7. Cinnamara-Titabar. anticipated increase in traffic in the foreseeable future. It has been found 8. Raipur Forest Tramway. that electrification of the section, 9. Burhwal-Barabanki. which is capital intensive, is not 10. Bahram Ghat-Burhwal. financially justified. Hence there is, at present, no proposal to electrify II. Darwha-Pusad. Bandel-Katwa section. 12. Nirmali-Saraigarh. 13. Pratapganj-Bhimnagar. Utilization of capacity In polyethylene Industry Damage to Railway bridges and lines due to rains and floods 89.9. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the 897. SHRI R. K. SINHA: WillMinister the of PETROLEUM be pleased to state: the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state (a) whether Government are aware (a) the loss suffered by Govern­ that manufacturers of high density and ment on account of damage to rail­ low density polyethylene were not way bridges and railway lines caused fully utilising their capacity despite an by rams and floods in the current unsatisfied demand for these products; year; and and (b) the loss of revenue to Govern­ (b) if so, the steps taken to ensure ment on account of cancellation of full utilisation of capacity in this field? trams due to rains and floods in the samp period? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b). Thp present licensed capacity of BUTA SINGH): (a) The loss is esti­ both Low Density and High Density mated to be Rs. 280 lakhs approximate­ Polyethylene of the existing manufac­ ly turers is being fully utilised.

(b) The estimated amount of loss is Production of Fertilisers Rs. 98 lakhs approximately. 900 SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL Electrificatoin of Bandel Katwa line BHATIA; Will the Minister of 898. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: pleased to state the steps taken or pro­ (a) whether India has tremendous posed to be taken to meet the persis­ potential to increase its fertilizer Pro­ tent demand of the various Passengers duction: 7 i Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Answer* 7*

(b) if so, whether production of (b) whether any memorandum on “NPK” fertilizer in the country wculd the problems of the Bombay Commut­ be increased four fold. ers was submitted to him; and

(c) whether India’s i equirement of (c) what are the main problems of fertilizer would be met by such an the Commuters and how do Govern­ increase; and ment propose to solve them?

(d) if so, salient features thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. SETHI); (a) to (d). There has been (b) Yes a substantial growth in the installed capacity for the manufacture of ferti­ (c) In the Memorandum the Bom­ lizers in India. The present installed bay Suburban Passengers’ Associations capacity for the manufacture of ferti­ have requested for increase in the lizers is 29.72 lakh tonnes of nitrogen number of suburban services, their and 6.92 lakh tonnes of P *0 6 as com. speeding upi provision of passenger paired to 0.85 lakh tonnes of nitrogen amenties at suburban stations etc. and 0.63 lakhs tonnes of P 20 & at the Efforts are being made to meet these beginning of the First Five Year Plan. requirements so far as they are opera­ A large scale programme is under im­ tionally feasible and justified, subject plementation in the public, private and to availalulitj of funds. co-operative sectors for augmenting the indigenous capacity for production of nitrogenous and phosphatic fertilizers. Application of Third Pay Commission With the implementation of the above recommendations to Class II Officers of programme, the capacity is expected O. & N. G. C. to increase to 46.90 lakh tonnes of unitrogen and 13.11 lakh tonne? of 902. SHRI RAJA KULKARNI; Will P,O r, by 1978-79. The increased pro­ the Minister of PETROLEUM be duction arising from substantial addi­ pleased to state: tion to capacity as envisaged above, should help narrow appreciably gap (al whether the recommendations between demand and indigenous avail­ of Third Pa> Commission have not ability of nitrogenous and phosphatic been applied by Oil and Natural Gas fertilizers. Commission to its more than 1500 Clas; II Officers, while applying the A« there is no production of potassic same to Class I Officers; and fertilizers in thp country, the entire demand would have to be met bv im­ (b) if so, the reasons therefor? ports.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Meeting of Federation fo Bombay sub­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI urban Hailway Passengers’ Associations ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI); (a) The 901. SHRI RAJA KULKARNI: Will recommendations of the Third Pay the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Commission are not as such applicable to state: to the ONGC employees. However, keeping in view, inter-alia, the said (a) whether a meeting of the Feder­ recommendations, the pay-scales of ation of the Bombay Suburban Rail­ both the categories of employees have- way Passengers’ Associations was in­ been revised on a uniform pattern augurated by him in Bombay on ISth June last; (b) Does not arise. Written Answers SRAVANA 26, 1898 ( SAKA) W ritten Answers 74

Trans-Ariaa Railway* (»ar) ^9T *r ir 90S. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: Will the t o f t *rr?rr *f *r*ftfacr f a Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to s f m g ; ffh: state: (a) whether India also attended ihe (»r) meeting of the Economic and Social 1 Commission for Asia and the Pacific; «n irtf tit wfcr w vrf*r?f g

(b) if so, whether one of the sub­ ifrm w if jects discussed was urgency of giving concrete shape to the concept of a (4 t fimrafairotfirrit): (v ) ?r»r«r»r trans-Asian Railways in view of the 14,000 | serious congestion or ships in the West and South Asian ports; and (* ) 1976-77 % ^VTTST 9.45 (c) if so, what was the outcome of fafiTTC ift® Z* the discussion? 3 m * mt sFfrrc' | 1 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (»r) ^ fa iffiff sfr* BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. (»T7Trn) (0) Yes. F«rprT (tttfl) snTRf ( ", ^f^TT^r ) % T^Trff ir?f ffK ***? (c) While the need for Trans-A^ian Railway link, trom Turkey to Far East zr$ n*4T arrsrr ffT^Rfsri % w?crrt was accepted by the member Railways, r?r kto a nun,i>cr of technical problems con­ ?. I f^r?*r *r^. srb?, nected with through movement of traffic on the multi-gague system re­ "•spT, ni~r% 'rfVaR main to be resolved in addition to the 9T’TT3 , wsrrr^, «r.~w sr?-*, problems of compatibility of the route, ■3?tt 7i?i, frftrvrr?t rolling stock and fixed equipment. ESCAP continues to make Studies of zjrx iwct *r fa sf^tw these aspects. Movement of traffic on '; fa* W*l4fy ?rtT Trans-Asian Railway network will, however, become possible only after gt %*.- t ; the work on ‘missing links’ on the route is programmed and completed by Iran, Bangladesh, Burma and Thailand in ^arrfhim iflr *r?rn v l uni % their respective countries. *trr airct

906. wwr R i f : w w r ifcrimfor* mNnft T^?rs 5Rrr^^t r r r ^ f ^ : 905. s i** TOTH : WT (*,) w rrarr firjrc if ft qft $7T

% faq wrr wrt # 1 g : ( * ) for rr«rr fa fcrfarr- (sr) aprr r ? s r s Sf w s w f^saiT w | ; irft *fr, at ssfft g ? SlrT «PTT g ; 75 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1970 Written Annoeta

(*r) w r tfssr *r «pt^ Asian Rail link prajeet fer Indian vrem w fsurr «rr ? Railway 908. SHRI D. D. DESAI: irnwr 5f («ft fa*r): SHRI DHAMANKAR: (*) v'x (n). vnf SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MO- HAPATRA; ®(TT VXri f;«TT f-c’»T V R f VT fa*rfar sr.-nq v ffcm. ft Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state; fV*CT 3fT ^ 5»?T $, o**f Hff V Zffcr ^rPSETffr «fft ^JFf |TT (a) whether Railways are planning to take up more consultancy jobs ab­ ■W-T T> K’ -TC.WHf % t r-i s m 3fr®SRT road; S :* w * * ,-,«r P n rr o if lw 11 wM (b) whether the proposed Asian rail link will be entrusted to the Indian Railways for completion; and

(c) if so, the broad features thereof?

Crash plan for crude production in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Eastern Sector MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. Consultancy 907. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the service is being undertaken by Rail Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to India Technical and Economic Services state; Ltd., a Public Sector Undertaking under the aegis of the Ministry of Railways. (a) whether his Ministry has drawn up a crash plan for boosting crude oil (b) and (c). The concept of Ttans- production in the Eastern Sector; Asian Railway link includes utilisation of the existing network and construc­ (b) if so, the broad features thereof; tion of missing links in different coun­ (c) whether refining capacity in the tries wherever they exist. The con­ Eastern Sector will be adequate to struction of the missing links will meet the increased output; and have to be undertaken by the respec­ tive countries and through the agen­ (d) whether there are any plans to cies of their choice. It is not possible at increase the refining capacity there? this stage to say whether construction of any of the missing links would be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE entrusted to India. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) and Introduction of super-fast or de-Luxe (b). While Oil India Ltd., and Assam Train on Ahmedabad-Delhi route Oil Co., will maintain their present level of production, the ONGC has 909. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the planned to increase production from Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to the present level of l .12 million tonnes state; per year to 2.25 million lonnes per year by 1878-79, the increase being (a) whether there is any proposal to essentially on account of the develop­ introduce a super-fast or de-luxe ment of Galeki oil field. train on the Ahmedabad-Delhi route; and (c) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the salient features there" (d) Does not arise. of? 77 Written Answers SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 7*

Tfffi DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB ^ in rtto rif MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3UTA SINGH): (a) No. ( * ) i (b) Does not arise. (nr) v : stNt «rr

p ofdpi exchange earning due to ex­ t 1 port «*f Coaches, Bofieg and Spares

910. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the *rf> 1974 % w w t Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to frt^nfnff % «n% gypwf farfai itate:

(a) whether Indian Railways are 912- T w w m r fiw ft : w r aow in a better position to export T5T 3RTR f*T t o fv : :oaches, bogies and spares to foreign :ountries; and (Tj W ^ spJT^rfv^f $ (b) if so, the salient features re­ -5fjfq aft ^T, ?Tf 1974 garding the earning of foreign ex­ change during the current year along- ^ »mr f^rzrr «tt, with the names of the countries to snrrsT" btm % ??n*r *?pnT ir which exports have been made? ffl^rfviT *rn; »rrd | ; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (w ) w*r s w tt qtofV «tt^ *r*rf BUTA SINGH); (a) Yes. tfr ^-arr* foenft- (b) During the current year the fapo-^ft t ; Indian Railways are executing an ex­ port order for supply of 17 coaches to (»r) iNft crr^ arrat if" Tanzania. Approximately Rs. 1.8S erores in foreign exchange is likely to srrfen#. ^fvspfi , ^rr^Thi^ff araT be earned as a result of this export % «Tfat VTcJspSfrffr ?SR TT t ’ tTCFT STTT if 1TSRT

9 ii. fanjfn f*«r : sprrfiT## in n w if : JT? STrrr^r apV : ( t ) % (iT);?r«*rT s*tt vzv r T ipt f?RT>rifsr?rmt »r# f i [* « n - (^) ^T^sffrTt inr ^ T v r ’nn i l»T 3T *T n*T HflSn 11129/76’] 5S 1 -1 - «rft vTi^r w 3R?rr *nrr | ; 1976 ^nr*; »t*it $ i 3 1 -1 2 -1 9 7 5 oV sn^r (^ ) iff, w t s w t t to wra^ri % *r**ni if tftonrfcr?rn? ^ v v i iftx ftqfqtnff % wr^r ’jw s r y c % v ft % ^rsrjiT^ *Pt30-^- *r% vr $ i 1976 wv VTK»r«r f?«rr «wr $ i 79 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1075 W ritten Answers

Drive to provide basic amenities to unauthorised agents and other Passengers In Trains elements by charging extra have come to notice from time to tlrw^ 913. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL BHATIA: Will tbe Minister of BAIL- WAYS be pleased to state: (b) Besides intensifying checks at Officers' level with the help of anti­ ta) whether Railways have launch- fraud squads and Vigilance Organisa­

I O.C. eMtndt| vitt National Compa­ THE DETUTY MINISTER IN THE nies of Iran and otte coantrie* for MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI oivAb BUTA SINGH): The Indiam Railway Construction Company (Private) 916. SHRI RAM PRAKASH: Will Limited, a Fubhc Sector Undertaking, the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleas­ set up recently under the aegis of the ed to state whether the Indian Oil Cor­ Ministry of Railways, has not, so far, poration had entered into contracts secured any railway construction pro­ during 1075 with National Companies ject. o f Iran, Saudi Arabia and U.A.E. for supply of crude? Sale of obsolete drags by multina­ THE DEUTY MINISTER IN THE tional drug companies MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): Yes, Sir. 919. SHRI N. K. SANGHI: Will the Minister 0f CHEMICALS AND FER­ TILIZERS be pleased to state: Construction of new Railway lines, conversion to broad-gauge lines and (a) whether according to a ieport doubling of Railway tracks prepared by Haslemere group, a Lon­ don based voluntary organisation, the 917. SHRI RAM PRAKASH; Will multinational drug companies are en­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased gaged in profiteering, price fixing and to state: promotion of ineffective drugs and this is more widely pronounced in the third world: (a) the broad outlines regarding the works in hand for construction of (b) whether the report has pointed Railway Lines conversion to broad-ga­ out that while in Americfc, 35 per cent uge lines and doubling of railway trarjes of tin drug's produced by these multi • 'ii present; and nationals weie found ineffective, obso­ lete or having irrational combinations (b) the names o? the States which and were withdrawn from the market have demanded construction of u=w but the same medicines were being railway lines? sold n the third world; n.) if .so, whether Government tried THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to find out whether such obsolete and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SIIRI ineffective medicines have found their BUTA SINGH): (a) A statement is way to India: and laid on the Table of the House. [Placed m Library. See No. LT-11130/76]. (d) if so, steps being taken against the above menace? (b) There have been demands for construction of new Railway lines from various State Governments which THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS have been considered on merit de­ AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. pending on the availability of funds. SETHI): (a’> Government have seen the news items appearing in the “Times” of London dated the 14th Works undertaken by Railway Cons­ May, 1976 and the “STATESMAN" Cal­ truction Corporation of India cutta of 17th May, 1976 regarding a ieport prepare^ by Haslemere group, 918. SHRI B V. NAIK: Will the a London based voluntary organisa­ Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to tion. The news item in "TIMES” state what are the works undertaken states J-h&i the authors of the report by the newly started Railway Cons­ do not claim to have conducted any truction Corporation of India? original research but have drawn on 83 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1,976 Written Aim ogrt 84.

a large number of diverse sources in permitted to be marketed in the the preparation of their report. country. No new drug which is pro­ According to {he “TIMES” the author hibited in the cougixy of origin have concluded that there is clear permitted to be marketed in India. evidence of profiteering, price fixing, One of the conditions imposed in the promotion of ineffective drugs which permission for introduction of a new is more widely pronounced in third drug is that in case any toxic or un­ world. toward effects are noticed subse­ quent to the permission then the per­ In India prices of drugs are statu­ mission grafted will be withdrawn. torily controlled under Drugs (Prices Government have also appointed an Control) Order, 1970 which also pro­ Essential Drugs Committee for vides for a mechanism for revision in advising Government on matters re­ prices. Under the said order the lating to the essentiality and safetR price once fixed cannot be altered of drugs. This Committee is con­ without the approval of the Govern­ sulted on matters relating to the ment. Drug manufacturing units safety, cfficary and essentiality of having turn over of less than Rs. 50 drugs. lakhs are exempt from the purview of the said order. A11 importers of formulations intended for sale in the Issue of licences to Public Sector drug country are required to get their units during Fifth Five Year Plan prices fixed before such sales could be period effected. The said order applies um- formally to all drug manufacturing 920. SHRI K. S. CHAVDA: Will companies including the multina­ the Minister of CHEMICALS AND tionals operating in the country. FERTILIZERS be pleased to state:

The alternative scheme of pricing (a) how many letters of intent and mentioned in the said order ^lso pro­ industrial licences have been granted vides that gross profit before tax, if it to Public Sector Drug units during the exceeds 15 per cent of the sales turn Fifth Five Year Plan period giving over as shown in the audited accounts names of items with capacities cover­ of the manufacturer or importer has ed m these approvals; to be funded separately and could only be utilised for the purposes (b) when were these approvals specified in thp order with the granted and whether these public approval of the Government. sector unlts have gone into production of any of the items covered; and (b) to (d). Quality control on drugs in India is exerciscd under the (c) if not, by when they are likely provisions of Drugs and Cosmetics to go into production? Act, 1940. According to the said Art no new drug can be imported or manu­ THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS factured in the country unless it is AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. approved by the Drug Controller. SETHI): (c) to (c). During the Fifth Firms applying for permission to Five Year Plan, 11 Industrial Licences market new drug? are required to and 8 I«etters of Intent have been furnish detailed pharmacological, granted to the Public Sector Drug toxicological, biochemical and other Units. The detail of these Industrial studies to prove the safety and effi­ Licences/Letters of Intent are given cacy of the drug to the satisfaction of in the Statement laid on the Table of Government. Only such drugs as the House. [Placed in Library• See are considered safe and effective are No. LT—11131/76]. The production 85 Written Antwert SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Written Afttwerg 8$ of the following drugs in the LD.P.L. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS' iflttitt has already commenced:— AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. SETHI): (a) and (b). The names of foreign drug manufacturing companies Bulk: with foreign equity more than 26 1. Chloropropamide per cent who were granted letters of 2. Metronidazole intent/industrial licences during the period from 1-4-74 to 31-3-76 are as- S. Nitrofurantoin follows:— 4. Sulphaphenazole (A) Letters of Intent 5. Thiacetazone 1. M/s. Hoechst Pharmaceuticals Formulations ; Ltd.

1. Indomeihacin Capsules 2. M/s. Duphas Interfran Ltd. 2. Frusemide tabs. 3. M/s. Ciba-Geigy of India Ltd. 3. Methyl Dopa tabs. 4. Fhthalyl Sulphathiazole tabs. 4. M/s. Suhrid Geigy Ltd. 5. B. Complex tabs. 5. M/s. Burroughs Wellcome 01) 6. Ch«wable Vitamin ‘C’ tabs. Pvt. Ltd. 7 Primaquine Phosphate tabs. 6. M/s. Sterling Drugs (I) Pvt. T,td. It is expected that the production 7. M/s. Bayer (I) Ltd. of all the drug items including ex­ pansion scheme will commence or 8 M/s. Mc-Gaw-Ravindra will be implemented by the end of 9. M/s. German Remedies. the Fifth Plan 10. M/s. Organon (I) Ltd.

Grant of letters of intent and indus­ 11. M/s. Boehringer Knoll. trial licences to Foreign Drug Com­ 12. M/s. Glaxo Laboratories. panies 13. M/s Parke Davis. 921. SHRI K. S CHAVDA: Will the Muus'er of CHEMICALS AND 14. M/s. Anglo-French FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: 15. M/s. Smith Kline and French. (a) the names, of foreign companies 16 M/s Synbiotics Ltd. with more than 26 per cent foreign 17. M/s. Sandoz (I) Ltd. equity wh0 were granted letters of intent and industrial licences during (B) industrial Licences the last two years; 1. M/s Burroughs Wellcome (b) how many companies have es­ 2. M/s. German Remedies. tablished the projects approved duiing fhe last two years and gone into oro- 3. M/s. Merck Sharp & Dohme. duction; and 4. M/s. Roche Products. (c) whether foreign companies 5. M/s. Hoechst Pharmaceuticals undertake the manufacture of formu­ Ltd. lations by securing imported raw materials, which are not permitted to 6. M/s. Pfizer Ltd. m as per policy, through other 7. M/s. Alkali & Chemical Corpn. means? of India Ltd. U? Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Answers 88

8. M/s. Bayer (I) Ltd. ment the projects only after the letters 9. M/s. Sandoz (I) Ltd. of intent granted to them are con­ verted into industrial licences. The 10. M/s. Organen d ) Ltd. position regarding implementation of '11. M/s. Glaxo Labs. (I) Ltd. industrial licences granted to these 12. M/s. Searle (India) Ltd. companies is indicated in attached Statement. 13. M/s. Roussel (I) Ltd. 14. M/s. Uni-UCB Pvt. Ltd. (c) Two instances of manufacture of formulations by such companies 15. M/s Uni-Sankyo Ltd. without valid industrial licence have 16. M/s. Synbiotics Ltd. came to the notice of Government. 17. M/s. Miles ('India) Ltd. Position in {his regard has already been indicated in reply to Lok Sabha The companies who have been Unstarred Question No. 41 answered ■-granted letters of intent can imple­ on 10-8-76.

Statement

SI. Name of Company No. of No. of No. of No. Industrial implemen-unixnple- licences ted li- mented granted cence licences during last two years

i 2 3 4 5 i Ml s. BurroupK Wellcome i I 2 M '1'. German Remedies 2 2

3 M/s. Roche Products I r 4 M '1' Merck Sharp & Dohmc • 3 3 .. 5 M/''. Hocc'’st .... 6 4 *2 6 M/s» P fiz e r...... I

7 M/s. Alkali Chemicals Corpn. of India Ltd. I *1 8 M/s. Bayer (I) Ltd...... I I .. 9 I X .. 1* M/s. Organon (I) Ltd...... *1 II I .. 12 M/S| Searle (I) Ltd. • . . • . I .. *1 12 M/s. Roussel (I) Ltd. (COB Licence) J I .. 14 M/s. Uni-UCB (COB Licence). . I I .. 15 M/s. UnS-Sankyo...... I 1 .. 16 .. *1

37 M/s. Miles India Ltd...... I •• *1 ' * The validity period for implementation of t'le l;cnc:i is tWi years which has not yet expired. 89 Written Answers SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 90>

Production vis-a-vi8 consumption of both through their National Oil Com­ Ott panies and private oil companies.

Cost Estimates of Koyall Refinery and 923. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will Other Projects the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to state: 924. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: (a) what is the estimated produc­ SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- tion of indigenous oil in the current THAM: year; SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY:

(b) what is the consumption trend Will the Minister of PETROLEUM in view of the expected higher pro­ be pleased to state; duction activity in agriculture industry; and (a) the original project cost esti­ mates respectively of Koyali Refinery (c) the broad features of contracts expansion. Mathura Refinery and entered into with other countries for construction of offshore terminal at import of oil during this year and aUlo Salaya with pipe links with Koyall of any other long term contracts? and Mathura; (b) what are the latest estimates and how is the escalation of costs ac­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE counted for; and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) (c) the broad outlines of time sche­ The target of production of crude oil dules for the completion of these in 1976 is 8.9f» million tonnes. projects?

(b^ The consumption of petroleum THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE products during the first six months MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI of 197G has been higher by about 5 ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) per cent as compared to the corres­ The original costs of Koyali expan­ ponding period last year. sion, Mathura Refinery and the con­ necting pipc'iiur including oil termi­ (c) Arrangement.' have been made nals at Salava. based on feasibility for import of required crude oil from reports prepared in 1973, were esti­ Iran Iraq. Saudi Arabia and UAE mated as under:

(Rs. 'crores )

(i) Jvi\d|i Expansion 28*08

00 Mai'1 ura Refinery 97'oo

(mi Pipeline H9*90

(b) The pte.-.eni cost estimates of these projects are as under:— (Rs. /crores) ''0 Kiyah Expansion (based on DPR recendy submitted\b> IOC'. 56*49

Cm) Mathura Refinery** (**As assessed in 1974- The DPR is 149-42 (iin Pipline** under ’reparation of IOC. The revised 188 • 16 cost estimates will be known as soon as the DPR has been finalised) *91 W ritten Answers AUGUST 17, 1978 Written Answers 92

The increase in costs is mainly due completed in the last quarter of 1979 to unprecedented escalation in the to coincide with the mechanical com* cost of equipment, materials and pletion of the Mathura Refinery. labour that has occurred on account of oil crisis subsequent to the pre­ Cases of crimes on Railways In West paration of feasibility reports. The Bengal other factors are provision of finan­ cial cost to cover interest charges on 925. SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will the capital taken on loan during the Minister of RAILWAYS be construction period, addition and pleased to state: alteration made during engineering design, provision of extra facilities, (a) the number of cases of crime* etc. in West Bengal in Eastern, North Hast Frontier and South Eastern, (c) As per the present assessment, Railways during the last three years, the Koyali Expansion project is ex­ year-wise; pected to be mechanically completed (b) loss suffered by Railways and by the last quarter of 1977 and com­ the travelling public as a result of missioned in early 1978. The Off­ these crimes; and shore and Or.-shore terminals and the Pipeline from Salaya to Viramgam (c) in how many cases the culprit* and Koyali are expected to be com­ were caught and what steps have been pleted in the last quarter of 1977 to taken to improve the situation? coincide with thp mechanical comple­ tion of the expanded Koyali Re­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE finery. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI V BUTA SINGH), (a) Total number of The Mathura Refinery is scheduled cases of crime reported in West to be mechanically completed by Bengal on Eastern, Northeast Fron­ December, 1979 and commissioned tier and South Eastern Railways by April, 1980 The pipeline from during 1973, 1974 and 1975 is given 'Salaya to Mathura is expected to be below:

Railways Kumber of eases

197^ iy74 Tc>75

Eastern 1 6 , S i 1 1 S . 6 9 6 I T , 2 2 4 Northeast Frontier • • 627 758 697 1 .2 9 6 South-Eastern . 1 , 3 3 *! 1 ,437

(b) Railways Loss suffered by Railways and travelling public (Rs.N

1973 19 74 *975

Eastern 62.72,993 1,34.11.440 96.11.659 Northeast Frontier 4.57.786 5.98.376 9,66,83/! South-Eastern 2,74,281 7,^6,691 5,24,845 «>3 Written Anaweu SRAVANA 28, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers

(c) (i) 8,812 persons were arrest­ Aid by World Bank, far Production of ed during 1973, 1974 and 1975. Fertilizers

(ii) The following steps have been 927. SHRI YAMNA PRASAD taken lor prevention of crimes on MANDAL: Will the Minister ot Railways:— CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleaded to state: (1) Important trains are being escorted by Armed Police (a) whether World Bank provided and Railway Protection Force aid to the tune of $212 million for staff. ■( production of fertilizers in the country during 1975; and (2) A vigorous drive has been launched against the crimi­ (b) if so. the terms and conditions nals an.i receivers of stolen of this aid? property in cooperation with State Governments. In addition to action for speci­ THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS fic offences, action has also AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. been taken under the pre­ SETHI i: (a) and (b). In 1975, an ventive laws. agreement was signed with the World Bank for a loan of US $109 million for the Phulpur project of Indian 'Oil Drilling in Laxmikantapur and Farmers Fertilizer Cooperative Sundarbans Limited and another agreement with the International Development As­ 926. SHRI E. N. BARMAN: Will sociation (IDA), a soft lending affi­ the Minister of PETROLEUM be liate of the World Bank, for a deve­ pleased to state: lopment credit of US S105 million. The two loans together amount to (a) whether the work on drilling oil *214 million. has been started at Laxmikantapur in West Bengal. The Morld Rank loan of M09 mil­ lion is to be utilised for meeting the fb) if not, when this will be taken up; and foreign exchange component of the Phulpur fertilizer project and is for a term of si-:1een years including (c) what has been the findings of five years of grace, with interest at the drillings made in Sundarbans area the rate of 8 p»>r cent per annum. for oil potentialities? The l.D.A. development credit of '•105 million is to be utilised mainly THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE for improving the operations of the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI existing fertilizer units, both in the ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI)- (a) No, Sir. public a? well as private sector. Apart from the balancing equip­ (b) Drilling at Laxmikantapur ments required for improved opera­ would depend on the results of dril­ tions of fertilizer plants, the credit would be available for:— ling at Diamond Harbour, which °u be taken up in the near future. (i) development of associated facilities to ensure reliability J rCLN° has so far been •carried out m Sundarbans area. of captive power generation equipment, and 95 W ritten Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 W ritten Answers 96

(ii) schemes designed for better turers and dealers, including manu­ production control like re­ facturers and dealers of drugs and covery of fluorine in phos- medicines to reduce prices of articles phatic fertilizer plants and of mass consumption. production of items like soda ash and argon associated with Pending Applications for Grant of fertilizer plants. C.OJJ. Licences This credit does not cair^ any in­ terest but only a service charge of 929. SHRI S. M. SOLANKI: Will 3/4 per cent per annum; the period the Minister of CHEMICALS AND of repavment is fifty years including FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: ten years of grace period. (a) how many applications for the Prices of Drugs under 20-Point Eco­ grant of C.O.B. licences for drug items nomic Programme are pending with Government and particulars regarding names of the 928. SHRI S. M. SOLANKI- Will companies and items applied for; and the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state- (b) particulars of C.O.B. licences granted during the last two years with (a) whether the drug unUs are names of the companies and items being forced to reduce their prices and capacities approved in such under the 20-Point Economic Prog­ licences? ramme of the Prime Minister in spite of the fact that there is statutory price control in this commodity; and THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P. C. (b) is there any lacunae in the Price SETHI): (a) and (b). At present 12 Control Order and if so, the action applications for the grant of COB proposed to be taken by Government licences for dtug items are pending to remove the anomalies? with Government. Statement I showing partxulars regarding names THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS of the companies and items applied AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI P C. for in COB licences which are pending SETHI)• (a) and (b) The prices with Government and Statement II of drugs are statutorily contro’led showing the particulars of COB under the Diugs (Prieto Control) licences granted to the drug manu- Order, 1970 which pro\ide.> a mw han- factu'ing companies during the ism for itvis-ion in prices. The pi'ces period 31-7-74 to 1-8-76 with the of drugs and medicines are ic vised names of the companies and items by the Government from time to with annual capacities approved in time m accordance with nonn« and such licences ar« laid on the Table of procedures pi escribed in tiii- Order. the House. [Placed on the Table of The pnoes fixed under the Older are the House. See LT-No. 11132/76]. ceiling prices and dealers are not precluded from sol'ing them below Drilling in West Bengal and Orissa the ceiling price. There is no lacuna Coast in the Drugs (Price Control) Order 1970 and this Order has been operat­ 930. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER ing satisfactorily since May, 1970 MOHAPATRA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to state: The Programme Implementation Committee, Delhi Administration (a) whether work on offshore drill*' have initiated action to seek volun­ ing in West Bengal and Orissa Coast tary cooperation of the manufac­ has been abandoned; and 97 W ritten A **otr» SRAVANA 2fi, 180B (SAKA) Written Answers 98

(b) if not, when it is likely to re­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE start? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH): (a) No. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (b) Does not arise. ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) No, Sir. (c) Ker«la Government have re­ (b) The data/information obtain­ mitted Rs 50,000 to the Railways for ed from two exploratory wells drilled carrying out a rost-cum-feasibility in Bengal-Orissa offshore is cur­ study for electrification of Olavak- rently under review, and further kotiCochm ahd Ernakulam-Trivan- programme of work would depend drum Central Sections. on the outcome of the review.

Saving of Furnace Oil due to its Fresh Survey for Railway Line from Jaipur to Chaudball Substitution by Coal

931 SHRI SHYAM SUNDER 933. SHRI P GANGADEB: Will MOHAPATRA- Will the Minister of the Minister of PETROLEUM be RAILMAYS be pleased to state: pleased to stale* la) whether there will be a fresh (a) whether there has been any survey of Railway line from Jaipur saving of furnace oil as a result of its to Chandbah connecting them with substitution by coal during 1975-76; Cuttack and main line in Orissa; and

(b) if so, when will this project (b) if so, whether there has been sta't7 some foreign exchange saving also; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH)', (a) No. (c) if so, the broad features there­ of? (b) Doss not arise.

Electrification of Railway Lines in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Kerala MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI 932 SHRIRIATI BHARGAVI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) to THANKAPPAN: (c) Yos, Sir. As a result of substi­ SHRI C JANARDHANAN- tution of furnace oil by coal and the various fuel efficiency measures in­ Wil] the Minister of RAILWAYS troduced in industrial units and tb» be pleased to state- power sector, furnace oil consump­ tion decreased from 4.502 million fa) whether Government have tonnes m 1973-74 to 4 300 million tnken any final decision to electrify tonnes in 1974-75 and ^ 253 million railway lines in the State of Kerala; tonnes in 1975-76 Taking into fl» if so, the provisions made there­ account the earlier growth rate in for in the annual plan for 1976-77; furnace oi\ consumption, it is esti­ and mated by Directorate General of Technical Development that a saving (c) whether the Kerala Government of nearly 4 5 lakh tonnes pf furnace have agreed t© help Ijbe Railways in oil was effected in 1975-76, as a this regard? resuK of these measures, valued at 1392 LS—4 approximately Rs. 27.5 crores. 99 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 19?#> Written /i twicers r$0

Use of Electronic devices (or Safety number of halls en route, the average of Trains speeds of 83 DN and 84 UP Maharash­ tra Expresses between Kolhapur and 935. SHRI P GANGADEB: Will Pune are 35 and 37.5 KMPH and the Minister of RAILW AYS be between Pune and Nagpur 39 and 40 pleased to state: KMPH respectively. (b) No. (a) whether Indian Railways are considering any steps to ensure the (c) Does not arise. safety of trains;

(b) whether Government have any Doable Docker Coaches for proposal to use electronic devices for the purpose; and 937. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will the Minister of RAILW AYS be (c) if so, salient features thereof? pleased to state:

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether there is a proposal to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI introduce double decker coaches on Taj Express shortly on a pilot basis; BUTA SINGH), (a) Yes. and (b) and (c). Electionic deviccs. (b) how soon is the proposal ia be like Automatic Warning System and implemented? axle counters are being provided pro­ gressively for improved safety in train operation. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BUTA SINGH)- (a) and (b). One Maharashtra Express prototype double decker coach haB been manufactured and the train to 936 SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will which it wi’ l be attached is under the Minister of RAILW AYS be consideration. pleased to state:

(a) whether the speed of Maha­ Overseas Operations by O&NGC rashtra Express between Kolhapur and 938. SHRI R S. PANDEY: Will Pune is 35 Km. per hour and between the Minister of PETROLEUM be Pune, Manmad, Bhusawal and Nag­ pleased to state: pur 30 Km per hour; (a) whether Rs. 6.15 crores have (b) whether Government propose to been earmarked for overseas opera­ dieselise this train for speeding it up tions of the Oil and Natural Gas and provide dining car to make the Commisrion during 1976-77; and journey more comfortable; and (b) if so, the broad features of the (c) if so, the salient features there­ overseas operations? of? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) BUTA SINGH): (a) 83/84 Maha­ and (b). ONGC has entered into a rashtra Express is already booked to Service Contract with Iraq National run at 90 KMPH on its entire run Oil Company for exploration, deve­ except on Drund-Manmad section lopment and production of Petroleum where it is booked at 80 KMPH due in an irea of 4175 sq. kms. in South to steep gradients. Due to a large Iraq. In addition, ONGC has uteund 101 W ritten Answer* SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAK.A) Written Answers 102

a contract for conducting seismic (b) whether any loose wire hang­ survey, of an adjoining area. A pro­ ing from the nests along the track vision of Rs. 6.IS erores has been could cause an accident if the wire made for both these contracts in the r.appened to touch the pentograph ol Annual P ’an ol 1976-77. the railway line; and

Utilisation of Allocated Fund for (c) if so, what steps have been taken Metropolitan Transport Project (Rail­ to guard against this new danger? ways) Calcutta THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 939. SHRl K. LAKAPPA. Will the BUTA SINGH): (a) No. Crows pick Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to up Btray wire pieces alongwith other state: materials to build nest on overhead structures. (a) whether a large amount of allo­ cated funds with the Metropolitan

(c) t:ie steps proposed to be taken (i) Special gangs of statT are em­ in tile matter? ployed to remove crow-nests from overhead structures dur­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ing nesting season. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS to (i) Hna- overhead wires close to the lisation of designs taking mc.re time structures. (ii) shortfall in imports un) u-ss com­ pensation paid for land acquired In Manufacture of Coaches, Diesel and 1974-75 and 1975-76, the surrender of Electric Locomotives funds was due to the necessity of a detailed review of the project by the 941. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will Government in the light of the cons­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ ed to state. traint on resources und the increased cost of the project. (a) whether the three production units cf the Railways manufactured ws have started . aling Steel for making nests along MINISTER IN THE Lm? w itoay track In Bombay; K F 2 S L °,r ^A^wAYS (SHRl BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes. 103 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Written Answer*

(b) The percentage of imported parts used was as under:—

(i) Electric locomotive ...... B.G. *3*7%.

( h ) Dissel S'luiter WOS-4 an! Di • .el LocomotiveZDM-3/ZDM-4 19*0%

(iii) DieSel-Electric Locomotive B.G. 9*5%.

(iv) Diesel-Electric Loc motive . M.G. 9‘4%

(v) Fully Furnished Conventional Coach— (al inclusive of steel and wheels St axles: 23*85%

(b) excluding steel .• 3*59%

(c) Yes. Recommendations of the various Committees on Commission rate* of Petroleum and high speed dieeel Muslim law of Polygamy 943. SARDAR SWARAN SINGH 942. SARDAR SWARAN SINGH SOKHI: Will the Minister of LAW. SOKHI; Will the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM be pleased to state JUSTICE; AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Oil Prices Commit­ tee had sent any recommendation to (a) whether Pakistan, Bangladesh, Government of India in January this Tunisia and other countries having a year, regarding fixation of new Com­ majority of Muslim population have mission rates of petrol and high speed amended the Muslim Law of Poly­ difsel oil which remained unchanged gamy; and since 1955;

(b) whether Shantilal Shah Commit­ (b) whether Government propose to tee on oil prices had also made certa r: enact such a legislation in India to recommendation; bar Muslims from keeping more than one wife at a time so as to bring it (c) whether the NCAERin its report in line with majority Community of to Government of India in 1972, had the country and make family plan­ also made recommendation for upward ning a success under the 20-Point Eco­ revision of commission on both the nomic Programme of our Prime Min­ above mentioned products; ister? (d) whether the petroleum dealers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in the country are facing many prob­ MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND lems due to non-revision of the Com­ COMPANY AFFAIRS (DR. V A. mission; and SEYID MUHAMMAD): (a) Certain restrictions on polygamy have been (e) if so. what steps Government imposed in Pakistan. Polygamy has propose to take to implement the re­ been banned in Tunisia. Algiers and commendations of the Committees? Turkey. Regarding Bangladesh, this Ministry has no authentic Informa­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tion in the matter. MINISTRY OF PETROIJEUM (SHRI 2IAT7R RAHMAN ANSAR!): («> to (b) There i* no such proposal. (t). Yes, Sir. XO$ WfrttUm. Answers SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers jq6 (d ) and <«)• A * recommended by the trolleys and supplied to the pantry Oil Prices Committee la it* Interim cars on trains where it is stored in hot Report submitted In January 1976, cases and supplied hot to passengers Government introduced »ojs.f. 1-7*76, on run. It is now our policy to extend the sliding scale of commissi on to the system progressively to other make outlets of low and medium trains. throughput economically viable. «t the same time containing the high profits Fall la growth rate of IOC of the high throughput outlets. On an average, the commission works out to 945. SHRI JAGANNATH V.JSHRA: Rs. 65/KL for motor spirit and Rs. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be 40/KL for high speed diesel oil. in. pleased to state-. stead of the previous commission of Rs. 41.-80/KL and Rs. 17 60/KL res­ (a) whether the growth rate of pectively. Indian Oil Corporation has lately re- gistered a fall; and Dealers have made further represen­ tations to the Committee whose final (b) if so, the remedial measures report is awaited. proposed in this regard?

Catering system in trains THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI 944. SARDAR SWARAN SINGH ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI;: (a) and SOKHI: Will the Minister of RAIL­ (b). Yes, Sir. The growth in total WAYS be pleased to state: sales of IOC during the last three years has been as under: (a) whether the catering system is deteriorating day by day in Mail 1973-74 . .2% Tratag like and other fast 19 74-75 • 4-c% Ex£re*a trains whereas the food serv­ ed in Rajdhani Express is of superior 1975-76 . . .1-9% quality; This decline in growth has teen the (b ) whether Government propose to result of fall m overall consumption of change the present catering system in POL products in the country and the fast trains; and greater availability of products wifh Hindustan Petroleum Corporation and (c) if so, when? Bharat Refineries Limited, crude sup­ plies to whose refineries were earlier THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE restricted. This decline in growth has MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI thus been inevitable. BUTA SINGH): (a) No. on the con­ trary, the standard of catering services Compilation of financial statements bJ provided on Mail and fast Express Companies trains has progressively improved 946. SHRI B S. BHAURA: The Food served on Rajdhani Express Train is of different quality as special SHRI D. K. PANDA: higher tariff is charged from the pas­ Will the Minister of LAW. JUSTICE sengers travelling by this train AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (b) and (c). With a view to supply­ ing better quality of food on the Mail (a) whether most of the companies and Express Trains, base.kitchens were take abnormal time for compilation set up on important routes to serve on their financial statements: ready.to-serve meals. Under this sys­ tem, food prepared under hygienic (b ) whether Government have any condition is picked up in insulated proposal to make it compulsory for 107 Written Answers AUGUST 17, 1976 Wrftttw Answers ioS companies to prepare their financial , (a) whether any atudiet bava bee* statements before expiry of the next undertaken to gauge the npttfs. t of consecutive financial year; and demands and supply o? sophisticated dyes and intermediates, both domestic (c) if so, the salient features there­ as well as for exports; of?

(b) if so, whether we are technolo­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW. JUSTICE AND gically advanced and well equipped to COMPANY AFFAIRS (S1IR1 BEDA- produce the required type of dye- BRATA BARUA); (a) No, Sir. Ac­ stufT and whether foreign collabora cording to the information «i wiilable in tion on a selective basis is contemplat­ the Nineteenth Annual Report on the ed to fill any technological gap 5 in Working & Administration of the Com this regard; and panies Act. 1956 already laid before the Lok Sabha on 30-3-1976. the total (c) what is the present capacity in number of companies at work in the the country for dye-stuffs and inter­ country as on 31-3-1975 was 43644 mediates whether any additional capa­ 87.362 copies of halance sheet and pjo city is being created and what types fit and loss account we-e filed by the of dyes and intermediates are served companies with the respective Regis­ for the small-scale sector? trars of Companies.

(b) and (c i. Under Section 21() of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Companies Act, it is obligatory for MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND the companies to lay before the Sin- FERTILIZERS (SHRI C. P. MAJHI): nual general meeting, a balance >hi*et (a) Yes. Sir, studies have been under, and profit and loss account within a taken to gauge the targets to be fixed period of six months from the date >»f for various dye-stuffs and the same closing of its financial year. Section continue to be revised from time to lime 220 requires that three copies of these to meet the changing pattern i f domes­ accounts should be filed with the Re­ tic consumption as well as in the export gistrars of Companies within :<0 rii>ys market. from the date of adoption in the nnnual general meeting to be held in accord ance with the provision of Sectior 166 (b; We are sufficiently advanced to read with Section 210 of the Ac(. De­ produce dye-stuffs using our own lay in holding of Annual t'eneral Meet­ technology, but for sophisticat'd types ing by the companies consequently foreign collaboration may be considered causes delay in filing of lalance sheet provided an economic capacity is possi­ and profit and loss account with the ble for the production. Registrars of Companies. In order to obviate this delay, a oroposal is under (c) The present production capacity consideration to make it obligatory for for dye-stuffs In the country is estimat­ a company to file its balnnc* sheet and ed at 16.700 tonnes per annum and profit and loss account with the additional capacity is being created to trars of Companies irrespective of the cover the gaps. The dye-stuffs and fact whether an annual general meet­ intermediates reserved for s-mall-scalp ing is held or not. sector are:—*

Production of Dye-stuffs and Interme­ (i) Azo Dyes (Dircet and Acids). diates (ii) Basic Dyes. 947. SHRJ DHAMANKAR; Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI­ LIZERS be pleased to state; (iii) Pyrazolone (intermediate). IrodwtMi of A—whtM Gm art (b ) if so, the likely dale by which Crvde tram efl-Asre area* of Maka- the line would be opened >o goods raahtr» tad OaJm t and passenger traffic?

948. SHRI DHAMANKAR; Will the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN T.HE Minister ot PETROLEUM be pleased MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI to state: BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). Work on the re-alignment of the section between (a) the anticipated production of Jawanwala Shahr and Guler stations associated gas along with the poten­ of the Railway line is tial crude production from the Bombay still in progress. M/s. Braithwaite, High off-shore area and other promis­ Burn & Jessop Construction Co. ing off-shore structures of Maharash­ Calcutta, who have be?n entrusted with tra and Gujarat; the work of fabrication and erection of girders for three major bridges (Dehsr (b) whether any active advance Sukhad and Gai> or* ♦hr project, have planning has been done on the profit­ been spenfinally reqiiv.wd to expedite able utilisation for industrial and the wnrk these bridges and to try other purposes of associated gas which on to complete the work by end of Septem­ will be available from off-shore pio- ber. 1976. It would be possible to jects; and open this line soon after completion of the bridges—say by 31-10-1976. (c) if so, what are the projects which could be harnessed and based on associated ga$ and other phased Running of train between Mangalore programmes so as to avoid pointless and Subramanya Road flaring of the gas for want of outlets to use it? 950. SHRI P. R SHENOY; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE state: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI (a) whether it has been decided to ZIAUR RAHMAN AN SARI): (a) to (c). run passenger trains between Mangalore At the optimal level, the production of and Subramanya Road on the newly oil from Bombay High ofl-shore field laid railway line in South Kanara expected to be around ten million District: and tonnes per annum and the production of associated gas around three million ibi if so. the date by which the line cubic metres per day. The production will be opened for the traffic? potential of Basseln and other off-shore structures where oil has been discover­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ed is yet to be estimated. The issues MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI relating to the transportation and uti­ BUTA SINGH): (a; Yes. lisation of the associated gas from Bombay High field are under study. (b) Tentatively by the end of Decem­ ber. 1976. Completion of alternate a lig n m e n t on Kangra Valley Railway Restoration of Roads near Mangalore

949. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- 951 SHRI P. R. SHENOY: Will the SHAR: Will the Minister of RAILWAY Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to be pleased to state- state:

(a) whether the alternate alignment (a) whether the two roads from on Kangra Valley Railway has been Neerutiarga to Valachhil and Neeru- completed; and marga lo Arkula near Mangalore have Written M i AUGUST 17, WW WrtttWt Annotrs lit not been restored by the Railways after (itf LPO map bo'supplied'* statfafet laying Mangalore-Hassan railway Un* hottest in ares* wfw*e coke across these roads; and Is not readily available, on the basis of an assessment of the resident student (b) if so, the manner by which these population; and roads will be restored? (lii) A phased programme may be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE drawn up for withdrawal of LPG MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI supply to hotels, restaurants, canteens BUTA SINGH): (a) and (b). For the etc. No withdrawal of LPG from those road from Neerumarga to Valachhil, ax* using it in the past has, however, been unmanned level-crossing has been P™* started yet and it has been decided to vided and is now in use by road users. pend such action for the time being.

For the road from Neerumarga tc However, LPG connections have been Arkula which crosses the railway Una allowed in a few cases of hotels/hostels about 2550 ft. distance from the above which cater to the needs ol foreign level-crossing, a pedestrian crossing tourists. has been provided.

Vehicular traffic will utilise the level- Setting up of Kerosene Depots at crossing referred to earlier. Taluka Level

Withdrawal of L.F.G. supplies to Hos­ 953. SHRJ MOHAN SWARUP; Will tels and Restaurants by IOC the Minister of PETROL/EUM be pleas­ ed to state; 952. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS- WAN: W ill the Minister of PETRO­ (a) whether oil companies in public LEUM be pleased to state: sector propose to implement a schcme of setting up kerosene depots at Taluka (a) Whether Government have level all over the country; directed Indian Oil Corporation to withdraw* L.P.G. supplies to hostels, (b) if so, the broad outlines of the canteens and restaurants in the coun­ scheme; and try; and (c) the time by which it would be implemented? (b) if so, the reasons therefor? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI): (a) to ZIAUR RAHMAN ANSARI); (a) and (c). A field survey for the development (b). Jn view of the limited availability of Taluka Kerosene Depots (TKD) was of Liquified Petroleum Gas (cooking conducted by the Hindustan Petroleum gas) and keeping in view the objective Corporation Limited in coord'nation of giving priority to domestic users so with other oil industry members. A as to help the housewives, oil companies pilot project has also been started in were advised as under;__ Ratnagirl district. The concept of Taluka Kerosene Depots envisages (1) The demand for LPG from orga­ setting up of Kerosene storage points, nised establishments, where cooking is as far as practicable, in each Tehsil/ done by employees, like canteens, Taluka, so that kerosene distribution hotels, shops, etc., should not be upto Taluka level will take place under entertained except to a limited exlent oil companies’ directions as per State- as specified. wise allocations made by the Ministry Pctfkrt Laid SRAVAHA », 1898 (SAKA) Paptrt Laid of irttrotonm. The subsequent distri- G.S.R. 344(E) in Gazette of butictt of kerosene beyond TKD will India dated the 18th May, 1976, be done through Dealers/Retailers and under sub.section (3) of section it will be the responsibility of the res­ 24 of the High Court Judges pective State Governments, as is the (Conditions of Service} Act. position at present. The Damle Com­ 1954. [Placed in Library. Set mittee on Distribution System of Pet­ No. LT-11118/76.] roleum Product has also commended the scheme and recommended its ac­ T a m il N adu Co o per ative so c ie tie s ceptance in principle by the Govern (A p p o in t m e n t o r S p e c ia l O fficers ) ment. Recommendations of the Com­ A ct mittee are, however, at present under consideraion. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRl K. RAGHU RAMA- 11.42 hts. TAH)- On behalf of Shri A.C. George, I beg to lay on the Table a copv of the PAPERS LAID ON THE 1ABLE Tamil Nadu Cooperative Societies (Appointment of Special Officers) Act MR SPEAKER; In view of the un­ 1976 (President’s Act No. 25 of 1976) precedented situation, I And. borne hon. (Hin4i and English versions) published Members on this side are not present. n Gazette of India dated the 1st June. I will allow today as a special case, 1976, under sub-section (3) of section 3 without any precedent, the hon. Minis­ of the Tamil Nadu State Legislature ter for Parliamentary Affairs to lay the (Delegation of Powers) Act, 1976 papers behalf of his colleagues who (PlflCfd in Library. See No. LT-11119/ are not present. 76.] Shn H. R. Gokhale. N otification u n d e r E ss e n t ia l N otification u n d er Su p h s m S C oukt C o m m o d it ie s A ct J u dges (C o n d itio n s o r S e r v ic e ) A ct THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI B. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRl H. P. MAURYA); I beg to lay on the R. GOKHAE)' I beg to lay on the Table under sub-section ( 6) of section Table: 3 of the Essential Commodities Act, 1955. a copy of Notification No. S.O. (1) A copy of the Supreme Court 440(E) (Hindi and English versions) Judges (Travelling Allowance) published in Gazette of India dated the Amendment Rules. 1976 (Hindi 30th June, 1976 extending the Cement and English versions) publish­ (Quality Control) Order. 1962 to the ed in Notification No G S .R . State of Sikkim [Placed in Library. 343(E) in Gazette of India See No. LT-11120/76.] dated the 18th M ay. 1976 im der sub-section (3) of section N otifications u n d er A l l -I n d ia S er ­ 24 of the Supreme Ourt vices A ct Judges (Conditions of Service) Act, 1958 [Placed in Library. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN See No. LT-11117/76.] THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL (2) A copy of the High Court AND ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS Judges Travelling Allowance AND DEPARTMENT OF PARLIA­ (Amendment) Rules. 1976 MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI OM (Hindi and English versions) MEHTA); I beg to lay on the Table published in Notification No. a copy each of the following Noti ft- Pape rs Laid AUGUST 17, Itft P o p * * M l l t «

[Shfj Qm Mehta] Rules. 1976. published to N$U Acaiion No OAR. Bt& it* cations (Hindi and English version*:) Gti. el to of India dated fbft under sub section ( 2) of section 3 oi 12th June 1976 the All India Services Act 1951 — (9) G S R 400(E) published in ( 1) The Indian Pihce Service Gazette of India dated the 16th (Fixation of Cadre Strength) June 1976 Seventh Amendment Regula tions, 197b published in Noti­ (10) The Indian Pobce Service fication No C S R ^51 (E) in (Pa>) Nmth Amendment Gazette of India dated the 25th Rules 197b published in NoU May 1976 HidUon No G S R 827 in (2) The Indian Police Service Ga/etle of India dated the (Pa>) Eighth Amendment 12th June 1976 Rules 1*»76 published m Noti ( 11) I he Indian Police Service fication No G S R 352(E) in Ga7ttte of India dated the (Fixation of Cadre Strength i 2-jth M iv I*>76 Eight Amendment Regula tions 1976 published in Noti (3) The All India Services (De.ith fication No G S R 401(E) m cum-Retiremenl Benefits) Fif’ h Ga/ette of India dated the 16th Amendment Rules l ‘)7G pub June 1076 lished in Notification No G S R 758 m Gazette of India (12) The Indi Ifith June 1076 published in Notification Nc G S R 1*S8 in Ga/ette of In 'ia (13> G S R 403(E) published m dated the 5th June 197»» Gazette of India dated the 16th June 197b (3) The Indian Polite Service (Fixation of Cadre Strength (14) The Indian Admmistrat ve Fifth Amendment Regulations Service (Fixation of Cadre 1976 published in Notification Strength! Thirteenth Amend No G.SR 812 in Gazette of ment Regulations 1976 pu'> Ind a dated the 12th lune lished in Notification No 1976 G S R 404(E) in Gazette of India dated the lBth Jun*» (6) T'le Indian Poice Service 1976 (Payl Fourth Amendment Rules, 1976 published in Noti­ (15) The Indian Admimstrat ve fication No G S R 81) in Service (Pav) Thirteenth Gazette of India dated the 12th Amendment Rules 1970 pub June 1976 lished in Notification No G S R 405(E) in Gazette of (7) The Indian Police Service li did dated the 16th June (Pay) Sixth Amendment 1976 Rule* 1976 published m Noti- Rules 1978 published in (16) The Indian Administrative Gazette of India dated the Service (Fixation of Cadr*» 12th June 1976 Strength) Twelfth Amend ment Regulations 1976 p u '• (8) The Indian Police Service lished In Notification No (Pay) Seventh Amendment G S R 416(E) In Gazette of Ztf ‘ SRAVANA 26, 1896 (SAKA) Papert Laid r < „ f j , India dated ' the 22nd June, Rules. 1976, publ chei :n Noti­ 1970. fication No. G S R . 439(E) in Gazette of India dated th e' (17) The Indian Administrative 3rd July. 1976 Service (Pay) Twelfth Amend ment Rules, 1970, published in <25) The Indian Administrative Notification No. GJ5.R 417(E) Service (Fixation of Cadre in Gazette of India dated the Strength) Fifteenth Amend­ 22nd June, 1976. ment Regulations 1976, pub lished in Notification No (18) The Indian Administrative G S R 990 in Gazette of India- Service (Fixation of Cadre dated the 10th July, 1976 strength) Fourteenth Amend ment Regulations, 1076, pub (2b) The Indian Administrative lished m Notification No Sen. ice (Payi Fifteenth G.SR 424(E) in Gayette of Amendment Rules 1976. pub India dated the 25th June lished in Notification No 1978 G S R 991 in Gazette of India dated the 10th July, 1976 (19) The Ind.an Admimstrativt (27) The Indian Administrative Service (Pay) Fourteenth Sen ice (F \ation of Cadre Amendment Rules, 1976 pub Strength) Ninth Amendment lished in Notification No Regulations 1976, published in G S R 425(E) m Gazette of Notification No G S R 465(E) India dated the 25th June m Gazette of India dated the- 1976 23rd Julv 1970 (20) The Indian Administrative (28) The Indian Administrative Sorvice fPaj ) Eleventh Service (Pay) Tenth Amend­ Amendment Rules 1^76 pu»> ment Rules, 1976 published m ]i«hed in Notification No Notification No G S R 466(E) G S R 900 in Gazette of in Gazette of India dated the India dated the 26th June 23rd July 1976 1976

(21) The Indian Police Service [Placed in Library See No LT (Pay) Tenth Amendment 11121 "78 3 Rules, 1976. published m Noti­ fication No G S R 901 in Rfport os the General Elfctions to- Gazette of India dated the the Legislative Assemblifs *nd 26th June 1976 Presidential avu Vic* -Prfmdential (22) The Indian Police Service Elfctions, Xotihcatktvs under Tamil (Pay) Eleventh Amendment Nadi* IIihou Rlligious and Charitable Rules 1976, published in Endowments act and a Statement re Notification No G S R 902 in I'FLAY IN LAYlNfj NOTIFICATIONre TaMIL Gazette of Ind'a dated the 26th Nadu Indian Marriagf (Registration) June, 1076. Rules. (21) The Indian Police Service (Fixation of Cadre Strength) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ninth Admendment Regula MINISTRY OF LAW JUSTICE AND tions 1976, published in Noti­ COMPANY AFFAIRS (DR V A fication No. G S R 438(E) m SEYID MUHAMMAD) I be? to lav on Garette of India dated the 3~d the Table July, 1978. (1) (i) A copy of the Report orr (24) The Indian Police Service the General Elections to the Legis­ (Pay) Tenth Amendment lative Assemblies of Manipur, Naga- 119 fa * * * * Laid AUGUST 17, 1970 Paper# Laid ia o

[Dr. V A. Seyid Muhammad] ment to the Installation, safe­ land, Orissa, Pondicherry and Uttar guarding and Accounting of JPradesh in 1074, Gujarat in 1975 and Hundials Rules, 1975. the Presidential and Vice-Presiden­ tial Elections, 1974—Narrative. (v ) Three statements (Hindi and English versions) showing (ii) A statement (Hindi and reasons for delay in laying English versions) explaining the the notifications mentioned at reasons (or not laying simultane­ (i), (ii) and (iii) above. ously the Hindi version of the above report. (v i) Four statements (Hindi and [Placed in Library. See No. LT- English versions) explaining 11122/78.] the reasons for not laying ■Hindi versions of Notifications (2) A copy each of the following mentioned at (i), (ii), (iii) Notifications under sub-section (3) and

(ii) G.O.Ms 1409 published in N otifications u n d e r C o m p a n ie s A ct Tamil Nadu Government Gazette dated the 17th Decem­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ber, 1975 making certain MINISTRY OF LAW. JUSTICE AND amendment to the Adminis­ COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI BEDA- tration of the Hindu Religious BRATA BA Rtf A): I beg to lav on and Charitable Endowments the Table a copy each of the follow­ Common Good Fund Rules, ing Notifications (Hindi and English 1962. versions) under sub-section (3) of section 642 of the Companies Act. (iii) G.O.Ms. 1541 published in Tamil Nadu Government 1956: — Gazette dated the 21st Jan­ (i) The Cost Accounting Records uary, 1976 making certain (Soda Ash) Rules. 1976, pub­ amendment to the Advisory lished in Notification No. S.O. Committee Rules, published in 1720 in Gazette of India dated Notification No. S.R.O. A- the 29th May, 1976. 1034 dated the 17th February, (ii) The Companies (Particulars 1960. of Employees) Amendment (iv ) G.O.Ms 780 published in Rules. 1976, published in Tamil Nadu Government Notification No. G.S.R. 942 in Gazette dated the 30th June, Gazette of India dated the 1976 making certain amend­ 26th June, 1976.

•The notification was laid on the Table on 18-5-1976. 121 Comm, on Welfare SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Delhi Salet Tax T?y of SC k ST Itawrtt (Arndt, etc.) Bijl (iii) Tb« Companies (Transfer of (2) Fifty-fifth Report on Action Profits to Reserves) Amend­ Taken by Government on the ment Rules. 1876, published In recommendations contained Notification No. G.S.R. 472(E) in the Forty-second Report oir in Gazette of India dated the the Ministry of Education, So­ 24th July. 1976. [Placed in cial Welfare and Culture (De­ Library . See No. LT-11125/ partment of Education)— Re­ 76.] servation for, and employ­ ment oft Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in the Uni­ 11.45 h*s versity Grants Commission and admission and other faci­ COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM­ lities provided to Scheduled BERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Castes and Scheduled Tribes Sixty-sixth Report by the Universities. SHRI G. G SWELL (Autonomous (3) Fifty-sixth Report on Action Districts): I beg to present the Sixty - Taken by Government on the sixth Report of the Committee on recommendations contained Privae Members* Bills and Resolu­ tions. in the Forty-eighth Report on the erstwhile Ministry of Finance (Department of Banking)—Recruitment o f Probationary Officers in the COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE OF Bank of India. SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHE­ DULED TRIBES 11.48 hrs. F»TV-FOURTH, FIFTY-FIFTH \N[) FlFTY- DELHI SALES TAX (AMENDMENT r ix t h R epo r ts AND VALIDATION) BILL* SHRI NIHAR LASKAR (Kanm- MR SPEAKER: Shri Raghu ganj). I beg to present the following Ramaiah has been authorised. Shri Reports of the Committee on the Wel­ Raghu Ramaiah fare of Scheduled Castes and Schedul­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ed Tribes- — HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY (1) Fifty-fourth Report on Action AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RA­ Taken by Government on the MAIAH) Sir. on behalf of Shri recommendations contained Pranab Kumar Mukherjee, I beg to in the Thirty-Fifth Report on move for leave to introduce a Bill to the Ministry of Agriculture amend retrospectively the law relat­ an<} Irrigation (Department ing to S8le$ tax as m force in the of Agriculture)—Reservations Union Territory of Delhi during a past for Scheduled Castes and period and to validate taxes on the Scheduled Tribes in the Indian sale or purchase of certain goods dur­ Council of Agricultural Re­ ing such period. search (Headquarters), the MR SPEAKER; The question is: Indian Agricultural Research Institute and the Directorate "That leave be granted to intro­ of Extension. duce a Bill to amend retrospectively

* Published in Gwette at India Extraordinary Part U, section 2, dated 17-8-76. ------t Introduced with the reecmmeada tion of the President. j* 3 Territorial Waters, AUGUST 17, 1976 Continental S h elf etc. B ill 124

S TMr. Speaker] admitted areas, that is, the territorial the law relating to sales tax as in waters, the continental shelf and mari­ force in the Union territory of Delhi time zones as admitted by a number ■during a past period and to validate ot States. So, we need not wait for taxes on the sale or purchase of that. certain goods during such period.” We have got a long sea coast—the The motion was adopted. Bay of Bengal in the east, the Arabian Sea in the west and the Indian Ocean SHRI K RAGHU RAMAIAH: Sir, in the south. We have got vast re­ 1 introduce! the Bill. sources. We found oil in the f-ffshore and also other mineral resources with­ in this area and we will have to ex­ ploit them at the earliest and we need 11.50 hra. not wait till a broad consensus or an agreement is arrived at at that TERRITORIAL WATERS, CONTI­ Conference regarding the other matters NENTAL SHELF, EXCLUSIVE ECO­ which are still unresolved. NOMIC ZONE AND OTHER MARI­ TIME ZONES BILL—co*ud. Sir, the international conferences go MR. SPEAKER: The House will on unending; they do not arrive at now take up further consideration of decisions. That does not mean that we the following motion moved by Snri should sit idle as spectators and should H. R Gokhale on the 16th August, wail Mil a final agreement is arrived 1976, namely: — at or ii is signed. On such of those points a« there are agreements—un “That the Bill to provide for cer­ nmmous ."ereements—we should take tain matters relating to the terri­ them as derisions arrived at at the torial waters, continental shelf, ex­ Conference and we shall have to take clusive economic zon* and other iirivantasp of that and start exploiting maritime zones of India, as passed the resources. We are exploring oil by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consi­ and we hnve exploited it and got good deration.” reserves and we shall have to intensify our efforts to flrd oils in the Bay of The time taken was 25 minutes. Shri Bengal and also in other places in our Jagannath Rao may now continue his countrv in the sea bed speech, Apart from that, as I said, we have SHRI JAGANNATH RAO (Chatra- go* mineral resources such as man­ pur): Mr. Speaker. Sir, I was submit­ ganese ore in the deep sea beds as also ting yesterday how, at the United copper, nirkel and other valuable Nations Conference on the Law of the metals. We have to take advantage of Sea a broad consensus was arrived at it. The sea contains valuable metals— regarding the territorial waters, its precious stones and all that. I do not extent, continental shelf and maritime understand why we should wait till the zones which are synonymous with the treaty is signed or a Anal conclusion exclusive economic zone and. to this is arrived at on the points which are extent, the sovereign rights of the sMll unresolved. These are my respect­ coastal States over these areas. What ful submissions firstly. would remain to be decided by that International body was about the ex­ Secondly, as I said, we have no ploration and exploitation of the deep marine technology and we have not sea bed resources and how that body been able to apnlv our mind in that should be constituted, its powers and direction. That we will have to do functions and so on. But. that does Immediately by taking the1 assistance not deter us from proceeding with the of our friendly countries. The Soviet 335 Territorial Waters, SRAVANA 26, 1888 (SAKA) Continental Shell i «6 etc. Bill Union has been helping us in several are using Norwegian trawlers for fields of our economic activilies with catching fish. It is said Japan ^ets 50 whom we have to enter into an agree per cent of its protein food value from ment for a period of ten, flfteen or fish We can as well do that. The twenty years and see that we get

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Alipore): and 7. d. S relates to the euntlwuoue Goa is in the mainland. cone of India which is up to a distatoee of 24 nautical miles from fibe hWfltan. SHRI JAGANNATH RAO; It ia alio The continental shelf is 200 miles tra m an island. It is connected by Karna­ the baseline. These classes come into taka. force on such dates or sueh different date* as the Central Government may SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara): Goa notify. I do not see the reason why Ik a part of Indian territory. different dates should be notified. Contiguous area ia only 24 miles from SHRI JAGANNATH RAO- In all the baseline or 12 miles from the outer these cases, you have to measure the edge of the territorial waters limit; territorial waters and the continental continental shelf is 200 miles from the shelf. Leave Goa alone. I would like baseline or 188 miles tro m the edge a t to know about the Lakslutdweep and the territorial waters. These are uni­ Amindiv islands and the Andaman versally admitted by all tbe world and Nlcobar Islands. Axe they treated States as coming within the sovereign­ as part of India or are they given a ty of the concerned State. Should we separate status in which case the not say that our sovereignty exists as calculation of maritime zone would be soon as the Bill is passed and assent­ different? This has to be made clear. ed to by the President when the Act comes into force? I do not see the Then what about the maritime boun­ reason why different dates should be daries with neighbouring countries? appointed This is my suflfciission. We have neighbouring countries, per. haps not that friendly, which are less My second submission is this. We friendly, like Pakistan on the one side have got power to extend any enact­ and Bangladesh on the other. Have ment to these areas That means our any talks been carried on or started sovereignty extenda over these areas. with these countries about the man That being so. where is the need for us time boundaries between these count, to say ‘as if they are part of India* ries and India’ Have we got any dis­ When we have the right to impose re­ pute or tussle between Burma and strictions or control or make rules and India about maritime boundaries’ I regulations to control the various act! understand there was a maritime vities of other nations in these areas, boundary settlement between Sri why should we say ‘as if it is a part of Lanka and India. AH these matters the territory of India'? I do not see have to be gone into and vettled early the difference. and the necessary maps and charts have to be published. Tbe maps are Another thing In these clauses, right is given to the Government to prepared and printed at Dehra Dun alter any of these areas. By ‘alter* where we have got the Hydrological Survey of India manned by naval offi­ is meant "lhat we may increase the limit or decrease it depending on interna­ cers of the Government of India and tional agreements. Therefore, that is the Se'-urity Press. In 1986 I happened to go there along with some MPg. They one reason why I say that our soverei­ gnty straightway extends and applies are doing a good job. Charts have to to these areas specified in clauses 5 and be prepared soon so that we Jknow our boundries. 7 immediately from the date of tbe coming info force of this Act r Then I com« to some clauses of ihe Bill. As I n U yesterday. ttHs Bfll Is While replying to tbe debate in only an enabling Bill. It defines the other House, the Minister tald: geographical areas of tbe sfce which “As I have said to my opening belo»gto us. As regard* elauae '# epeech, there jfliieifcljy 129 Territorial Waters, SRAVANA 26~ 1898 (SAKA) Continent.al Shelf ·,. etc. ·Bill acceptance and everyone has agreed with those demands. It is a that 200 miles should )Je the limit 0:! fact that the areas under sea and the economic zone. It was also said the natural resources have become that there our sovereignty prevails issues' of big conflicts of interests. As ·in respect of the exploitation ano days pass by; these conflicts are b:eing exploration of the living and non- intensified. The history of the efforts living resources and in certain made on an international plane to other matters Jike carrying out ·of arrive at some solution gives the pic- research, control of pollution and ture that up till now since 1958 the things of that nature." main issues have not yet been clinch- ed, though some general consensus has So, when it is an accepted principle, emerged from the conferences. We why should we be afraid of the inter- knuw that the mair'i. conflict is between national community? I am sure our the big imperialist powers and the friend, the , will stand newly-developing or under-developed by us in the international .conferences. countries, whi.ch were deprived of the Let us not lose further time. Let us rights to utilize the sea reso_urces for take advantage of what has been the development of their economies agreed to in the conference. and start and for the benefit of their people. exploitation and scientific and techno_ logical research in the field of exploi- The Minister in his statement in the tation of deep sea-bed resources. other House said that there has been some general consensus and on the 12 hrs. basis of this consensus this Bill has been drafted. On tlie other hand, he You say that our sovereignty ex- has also stated that the issues have tends and is "deemed to have exten- not yet been clinched and he cannot ded." As I said while speaking on say categorically when all these will the Constitution (Fortieth Amend- be clinched. Here we have some ap- ment) Bill, the Presidential Proclama- prehensions and reservations that if tion of 1956 fixed the territorial limits we go on unilaterally demarcating our at 6 nautical miles. In 1965, after own areas. specifying our own rights, article 297 was amended by the Con- whether it will solve the conflicts or stitution (Fifteenth Amendment) Act. will further intensify the conflicts. the limit was increased to 100 nautical While the conflicts with the imperialist miles. So, how can you say "sovere- countries is of one category, that of ignty is deemed to have existed"? If the ne~ghbouring or ]and locked coun- it is said like that because of interna· tries is of a different nature. tional understanding, that is a diffe , rent matter. That is one more reasn11 The Minister has made it specifically why I say that the_ Rill should' come clear that there is flexibility in the into force immediately and the deci- scope of the Bill and in the interpreta- sions arrived at the international tion of the areas and if in the Con- conference on the Law of the Seas ference some general consensus is should be put into action immediately. arrived at. or some issue is clinched. we will adjust our law according to SHRl SAMAR MUKHERJEE that decision. Still, there is some (Howrah): Sir, we generally support f€ar or apprehension because the.>e this Bill. The non-aligned conference areas are becoming centres of conflict. is going on now at Colombo. The Already there is some conflict center..: non-aligned countries have raised ing some of the islands like Parcels these · issues of control over the and S:pritly with Philippines and some seas as well as the question of other countries. Since in these areas sovereignty for the exploitation of petroleum and some other rich mineral the sea-bed resources. Generally I resources are available, there is every think this Bill is in conformity likelihood of conflict. These conflicts i392 LS-5. I 9i T rrttori*|

•' » ' fShri 8imr Mukhetjs*] ?r th*m* Jmt *tu •hoqJd be resolved through peaceful ttie a flfy tad laaf-Jocko^ eountriaa methods, by dialogue «nd negotiations. and our neighbours we mui&he owwh more flexible. Any wropg. handlfag may giv« scope for reactiomary forces Qnt doubt is whether Our unilateral action in the passing of this Bill wifi to isolate India. I want to draw attention to the recent example of bar the possibility of adjustment with Bangla Desh propaganda regarding those neighbouring countries which the Farakka waters. This has been are friendly with us In fsct, there k already arrangement with land­ raised unfortunately at Colombo also. locked countries like Nepal and So, the fear may gain ground among Bhutan for the exploitation of the the small neighbouring countries that India is now developing herself as a territorial waters and they can set up boss and taking full advantage of this some structures for maritime exploita­ concensus at the international con­ tion. The reaction of those countries ference for exploiting the resources in to this Bill is not before us. the narrow interests of the people of India alone If that happens, we will The Minister m his speech in the lose politically though there may be other House said that New Zealand some economic gains That is why has threatened that if anv unilateral particular care must be taken in the action is taken without clinching the framing of this Bill and it» execution, issue in the international conference, because the other countries are also then it will unilaterally pass a law, searching for new resources As sea declaring 300 miles as its economic resources have tremendous potentiali­ zone. ties conflicts mav up (-entering The Minister has mentioned that these resources unless sufficient ave­ nues are kept open for them T V t U America and some other States hs»ve already passed laws, but what are whv. while supporting thi Bin we want Government to b pa^ eularly those laws, are they in conflict with the interests of our country? There careful about dealing * ith the de­ is no report before us about that We mands and interests of these* countries. do not know whether by passing this law unilaterally, we are rrentinsf SHm K NARAYANA RAO fBoMI. obstacles for a settlement at an inter­ li>' Sir, I r’s* t0 supDort this Bill ’O national conference or not but thp*^ tVn larger interests of t*v countrv not is a report that the develooed coun­ onlv of todav. but in tl*> hcht of the tries *re nonosin«? ->o»ne of the pro­ future orospects which it holds for the posals of the non-aligned countries economic growth of the country. Hitherto till very recent times, the These are some of the questions high seas have been seen mostly hv which require clarification Otnerwise, the European navi national cowers in we think we must stand firmly by the the form of freedom of the high seas. proposals of the non-aligned countries But the recent technological develop­ about the 200 miles economic zone and ments have shown that there is much the 24 miles cont'suous zone We “potential underneath the ocean and must have proper control and utilisa­ also n great future for the economic tion of these areas and that is why growth. we support this B'll. but these are the misapprehensions that I have men­ Even now. except in respect of two tioned. aspects, still the picture has not really come up clearly from all the discus­ 1 think that the imperialists will not sions that have taken place In the easily go down if they think that this international plane. The two , thing* will generally throw them out of their which have dearly emerged, the old controls. So, must take a firm hoa Atynt*t*r has * a & . I f * , - 'ai~3 ·~: ~er#tbiuz l~i~~, ; ~RXvi~A ~6, .:i89s ' · cs~KA) '26ht~~t~~fal§liezf · ::r34 etc. B.ill ;.~;'3out . ~h~ J,erl'ito.riltl wa~'Fs ;ana :.a-'rso SHRI K. NARAYANA RAO: I am '~.'3out 'tJie ~ c9'.ntinen.tn 1·sh. :~ttter~ iare 'qualitative ·:aiffer~rices. the form Of royalties or Wlfilfa\fE\r it ?,A,i;,oµt the 'econ.comic zone :a1s0, •the 'in- may be, . I do not ~now. I am on}y "it~~~tiopal ,consensus .;iii vety .vould come urlditr the State !List. 'like 1b cor:ifine myself, from ;the Con- ·s.titu"'tioirnl pdint of vie-W, ·to "its impli- SHRI K. .·l')ARAYANA RAO: I'hey {:ations anii aiso to '{ts friternational draw a distfocti.on between ·infand '?Fa'mi"ficaions. From the Constitutional . fisheries ana marine fisheries. ··So far t.poirit of view. the recerit amendment as ihlana fisheries are concerne:.d, ·it !is "Is very clear that the territorial waters a State subject, but about marine cannot be . claimed for whatever pur- fisheries, ·it . was not clear 'before, but 'pbses bv "the 'respective States in the now the r ecent A'inendrrient :Has ri:iade ·'Indian Union. This 'has 'to be made it cleav-·all ~ the Jiving and nim-'1iving 'clear 'beea'use even todav -in several resources within the re'rifire f.dJHorHic ·'Federal Constitutions, th'e debcite ;is zone belong to the Cefi:tr,e :and trHlst 'going on whether the .territorial he utHised for Union 'J)u'rpOi:fes. 'PRis ~ate-rs beldng to 'the fecfehit'ing un'its is only by way Of cori:ven't,lkin, ' if :you "o" 'to the Union Government. Ju~'icfal can evol·ve 'in the future, tl:fat 'I \i/as ,·decisions are also confusirig. They suggest-in~ a 'special ·.concern 'to the · dtTw a distindtion ·between t h~ tci:ri- coastal 'States . . t~rial wdters for the p'Urpose of inter - · natlo'nal law aha territorial waters '.for Now I 1come ·to Elau.s'e 2·. The'r~ was ""the ournose of exploitation Of tne ·eco- some discussion ·about this fo !f.lii:e J.n- nomic ;<:sources underlying therefn. ternattonal forum; whether the '.isHmds Our nMition is very dear 'tnat, ior all can •be includ'2n for the ·pmtpose of ,- practical nurnoses, from in'te'r!1at!o'nal calculatl:o'n. of the 'limit , of 'the reiri- · ana Co,,~titutional boints of vrew, the torial waters, ··continental · sh'e

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Now, certain other things About Mow, the last point I wish to make the details the Bill has provided ex­ is that in our Constitution, as recently haustively One thing, I have a doubt amended, power has been given to about the two provisions. One is Parliament to specify from time to about the designated areas In the time the limits of the territorial designated areas, so far as the conti­ waters, the continental shelf, etc. Here, guous zone is concerned, it is con­ I concede that in the above concept ceived in the context of physical re­ of ‘under the authority of law’ pro­ servation so that both in the economic bably the power is delegated as such zone concept as well as m the conti­ In this context, the Bill has provided guous zone concept the government that where there is a change in the has reserved the right to designate a international law and if the limit is to particular area for the purpose, inter be altered in the case of territorial alia, of physical reservation Wli ether waters or the economic zone, the this can be conceded in the future power is given to the Central Govern­ discussions is open to doubt because ment to issue notifications, but care this concept is conceived in a different has been take„ to ?ee that no noti­ context for the length and sometimes fication shall take effect without the the coincidence, for instance, of the approval of the Parliament But this economic zone and the continental i8 not the position that has been taken* shelf though they run parallel to each with reference to agreements conclu - other. But these concepts have dis­ td with other countries with tinct hallmarks of their own. So far to the maritime boumJTte as our extension of physical reserva­ the two countries. Here, what they tion and designation of certain areas have stated is*. are concerned, whether they will be “Every agreement referred to in protected or not and whether the in- ternational community will also come sub-section (1) shall a8 soon as may Tound to this concept is still doubtful. be after it is e n t e r e d into^be pub- lished in the Official Gazette. The next point I would submit is about the delineation of the coastline ■mat means that It wffl of -altering the Uinit providedin the between two countries about these zones. Act itself. I do not know whefe«rw« have abdicated this powcr Clause 8 provides how to draw the tionally and totsHy to the «ov«m line in this regard. I just do not ment.... know what happens because in the earlier convention and the Sea Law SHRI J A G A ira A ^ Conferences they have used two dflfe- •ny other afr*w*n* wWNW gte. 801 H i Qar mmmmit,. that w B ib o eeeae place. But it sasms, as Mr. Jagannath io the House and only > with the ap­ Bao has pointed out that the matters proval at the Parliament it will be ate not so easy to reach agreement «n altered. and cohferehce after conference is taking place on an issue whidh was * O m i KL tfAKAYANA KAO: Not become at the ^particular moment im­ only that, clabse 0(3) is very sTgnifi- portant, not only from the point of view •cant. it say# of security. Considerations of security “The provisions of sub-section must be there and those considera­ (1) shall have effect notwithstand­ tions hold good always. But security ing anything contained in any considerations have now undoubt­ other provision of this Act." edly been overshadowed by the ques­ tion of sovereignty. Science and tech­ "That means that it abrogates the very nology has brought home to every­ provisions of this law itself. This, 1 body the fact that beneth the waters submit, is a typ* of vicious delega­ of the ocean and on the" sea-bed it­ tion which is not warranted. There­ self there are tremendous riches av­ fore, I wish that every agreement ailable in the form of raw materials, altering the position taken here must minerals arid so on, not to mention be brought before the House and oil. So, I agree with some speakers must be approved by the House. Then who have said that while we defini­ alone it will be m tune with the tely should take this preemptive constitutional amendment that we action in order to assert our sover­ have passed earlier stating that it eignty as we consider it very legiti­ will be lor the Parliament to fix the mate. so we should voluntary place a limits of the continental shelf, the limitation on it to that extent only contiguous zone and the economic that it should not in future, involve zone. I think this blanket power is us in any kind of conflicts or disputes not necessary. With these remarks I with thaft family of nations of which welcome this Bill. India is also a member. SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA (Ali- I do not want to say that there are pore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I welcome this Bill But it gives rise to some no disputes between non-aligned nations or between developing nations. very Interesting implication® and qu There are some disputes as we know -estions, which I hope the hon Mini­ very well relating to the Law of the ster will clarify and reply to when Sea. Such disputes may arise from he replies to the Debate. time to time. To some extent the Bill is of co­ But more important than those urse in conformity with the cons­ disputes are the common interests of ensus which has been arrived at al­ all the developing countries, the ready, though not formal agreement, non-aligned countries, the coun­ but consensus of agreement, on the tries which over the last 25 or SO question of territorial waters and years have won their national inde­ particularly exclusive economic zones. pendence from colonial powers. That But to some extent I see in this BUI— should be the paramount conside­ 1 'don't' disagree for that reasons, but ration. 1 see fhie—that this is a sort of preem­ ptive measure. Because, as far xSS I I think, the concept of sofr mOe hav« "imdeMtoed it, the conventions territorial limit has been more or whhSfc ‘# e » adopted at the previous lesB accepted. But it has not beep flue, con&ren£e* 'tintbe Law' of the Sea in lised in terms f it some specifla lffajnffeMMO Have w* yet 'x e n eaty. Naturally^ if such a6$fo«*llsed. that is the ieesan territorial limit*. „ territorial * # **1 nowtaHng coftdguous zones and exclusive eco- I3j>;. 'f. e!T~i,OfiQ,J. "\.1',C{!~_T$~ . ·' ·~ ·~ ,. ~,·;· ~ ..

[~ l'lgraj~t GuI'.ta] wl;icl:l, we. hope, to. continue our fri- end~ J'. r_eljl.tiuns; : . · .. ··- · nomJc. zpn~ are, acc_epte.d, evEl:nti.i!'\,:l~, Si!' ~ in: thi~- B_i,11, . i~ has very corre- to, tha e.x.tent1 that- the¥ ar.e._ accepted": it. a& implies a sort of..· shrinkage. ctly been stated. thiat the. right oJ, i~,_ .. of,·. the open, seas, To that extent the, nocent passag_e is the only thing which,, open. seas- will' shrfok_ and 'that. we can concede through. these. te.r~i­ shrinkage of. the. open. seas . has-. itorial · \\'val : strength, it. be- got landlocked countries as our nei- comes all the more/important ·, for us' ghbours with whom we have got. to emphasise thfs question of, inno~ very good /.friendly relationSI. There. · cent passage as against a free pass-- is Afgh,mis1an; there is Nepal; there age right. is Bhutan and so on. We also know. I would like to k·now from the- that by virtue of these being land- Minister; becc.use I was not able.. tG;• locked ccuntr-ies certain problems ascertain quite· conclusively, wheth~r ~ regarding transit of traffic and ~o or not, it is a fact· that -. the. United1 on already exi_st between us . and Nations General . Assembly, in Nepal, for example, with which . we 1968, have continuously b,een tryi~g · to has declared some ·sort ··Of moratorium,· on fhe exploiting - of sea ':Jed , reso-. have . friend~y negotia·tions and .talks urce·s., es~iaUY, mine~al9, . ~heth-er~ . for sd"me mutual arntcable settlem~nt :. that mor-atoriuth is st.fl•} in.. fcmce be.-· So, we ha.Ve to bear -in mind this on~ cause the dispute., over.: sea. bed. r re.-- poif1t there,,must be.. some scope,.som:e ,' sources. betwe".!n · techn.ologicaHy. , deve~­ latitu_de rn:i,i~t b.e,, tn~re 1 in- ~ru'.ite~~l' .· ··· laws, ~ Jr~Jne. to,_ .pro,yiqe.;for,

1 ma'deo at v th~; United Naticrif§!; tlia:t: th~ I hope thl! · davecmlfi~; rias mineral.· w~lthF p:ar.ttcula:illY\ .of · th~ ft.tlly: corisWi!red. · H'efi~ 1~ourt coant~ S'e'a be'd•: s'htitfilion ' of1 mechanism fb'r' ·coasta1 : v~gilance ' in" 0 these' mitieral~ ' untn1: a ·final agfeemen't' order to g.UarCi the: iri:vid.labiHty off our) wiis' art1 vcdi a'ti. economic• zone rffeatis ' somyethiiig A p:roposal ·was mad~ ali,out . setting . whi!!l:l is r~;:illy quik a stupendq)is up a Sea Bed . A'.utnority. NOw, wliqt . ta's'k· ca1B1i-g· ~or tremendous· rel>ouri!''!$ is ' the PPiiltion rega:rding that? Av:d· ' which I do nGt k.'ho'w' wli:etlier " ~ what: is the. view . of our Government have yet b~n a:J:1le'" tb acquire. Th'.is regarding thatT It seems that ce:rfaip prc>blem of maintaining vigilance powers are anxiOus that even if such afopg the :· co~st also implies· acquisii:... a sea bed authority comes into force, tion of· soppisticated· unaer.:water•'. it should have minimal powers anQ. technoio~y · for· ptirpifses' oi' e~lb'Ta.J.­ not be invested with very many tion · aI1d exploitation. Would riot' powers whereas other countries like these <1SpeetS--the questibn Of f vfgi.;;• ours or the developing. countries lance and the qtiestibn ' of' te'C'hnologfl:- would like P,Erhaps such a sea lieCi cal. resources "to exploit1this · e-c:onofflic ' zone-present· problems whicfi1 we· , authority t0 have adequate powers to .ensure ihat no country unilaterally have, already had to encounter? V{e by virtue of its sup,e:rior technology had some' experience in regard·to the question of'. ch'eckiiig the striuggnn·g" and r_esources is able to try to appro- 0 operations, pa'rticula'tly on our .. west- priate some- of these sea bed resourc- eh1 coast: We ali know the voliime es for itself What is now the of smuggling which was taking plil'ce position regarding the sea bed autho.:. ftoiri Atiu Dhabi.' I : have no ' doubt rity propooml? I would like to have that it is still continuing but on a some clarification from the Minister. reduced scale'. In between we ' were Then there is the question of right . faced with the-probletn of acquiring a of.other countries to ·carry on scienti- few' · hover~craffs. · :Even that ~ liad fic research in the exdusive- economic presented enormous problems of zone·. of another· country-of· course, ffn.'dirig funds and ' foreign exchange . with the permission of that country; for · acquiiing th'ese hover-cra:(fs anct There can be no question · or doing · SO OB. o:n ·h~r wil~i'fr we "'1t:aYe''t() relf. fo a •grea! .ex ,-, certai~ p,owersdn th,e pame··of' scienti• - tent, on ~ foreig1f · techni~a1 . 'asslstalice ·fie -reseal'ch.. . ' ' purft6s~ ' ~lrl~h: ' wi~ ~· ; __ ,,' ' ' ft!lr: thi!! · Ji.'<>l>JY wm1 be! abfe' 'gri¥chHiff ~o ~9y~r~~}t" .Tfi'is .2()() rl rime"' ' eMnoink zone ' wi'li -~ ., ·';' .. ' .., ' ' ·. ,, .. - : ·· impose f~ ' nl:l.~taiily'i' · on • • ah~'' a~\7€!:: lopmgJJ cOUnti\Y!t int?lbdin~ .. lnditi';· You wi!l • re~"' '~th.~t · t~&~"tye8'~'Wi'1i~ E!ftomo.~ w p.ras11t~fn§."'' '' ·a!'S~ ~niefr-· · there· was a question or- clemoctating 143 TerritoriaL Waters, AUGUST 17, 1976 ContinentaL Shelf etc. Bill 144

. [Shri Indrajit Gupta] India, whether it ·is an Indian com- · ~ones in the Bay of Bengal within pany or a foreign company or what- which we would carry on our explo- ever it is. There is no distinction. So . ration or 'drilling work 'and Bangla- I take it this covers everybody. But in th~ ca~e of foreign govern- desh wanted to carry on theirs also ments which may violate any of these some difficulties and problems arose as to how to appropriate one part clauses or provisions of our statute, what will the position be? It is not in- of the Bay of Bengal to them and ternational law yet-that is my point. ~ne part to us for this purpose. This is not yet accepted universally as SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: Mari- international law. Any breach of in- time boundaries. ternati-:mal law by any country is normally dealt with in a particular SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It is a way. But when we are introducing question of maritime boundaries. All our own statute and law and some these questions are involved. So, I other country chooses, for what- hope that when we are going in for ever reason, to violate our all •this, the implications will be pro- exclusive economic zoµe or territorial perly considered and the-'obligations ·waters or anything like that, what that follow from this in the interests sort of situation will we be confon- of our own national security and ted with and how do we propose development will not be avoided but to deal with it? From what I have will be boldly undertaken. understood also, there is this possi- As far as pcllutioµ hazards go, Shri bility even between the best of friends jagannath Rao has spoken about it. of disputes arising over the question of Nowadays anti-pollution technology fishing rights. We know there are so at ~ea has developed considerably and many big disputse over fishing rights is developing very fast and we should taking place in so many parts of the have to insist that these anti-pollution world. t echnology standards and so on should SHRI JAGANNATH RAO: Tuna in be applied rigorously to all vessels. Mexico. which pass through our territorial waters, t;h.at means not. only foreign SHRI nmRAJIT GUPTA: Mexico ships but our Indian ships also: I do and Alaska, Newfoundland and so on. not know to what extent the Indian We know what has been h appning. ~erchant marine :fleet h as reached a There are sume countries w hich go in stage of development where it is for largescale maritime fishing very able to utilise this latest anti-pollu- near their own coasts. They are so tion technology. It is all very well situated with the geographic and cli- for us to insist that foreign ships mati~ conditions that the bulk of the should take necessary precautions, fish catch they make is very near to but. we must see to it that our own their own coc:.stal waters. But there vessels also are n ot found lacking are other countries which are also in this respect. leading mari'time countries in the world which do not catch their fish One clause in this Bill has provided very near their coasts but far out in for offences by companies which I th- the open seas, which rely mainly on ink obviously r efers to the question ' lbng-distance fishing fleets equipped of pollution from land-based comp- with what - are called mother ships, nies which very often discharge all factory ships and all that. They st~y , sorts of effluents into the. water ca- out in the open sea for months to- using ~ollution hazards. Penalties are gether and . do their fishing. The prescrib2d for such offences and so on. catch is transferred to the mother ship, . 'Companies' means; I presume, any processed . in ·· the factory ship which company whic:h 'is doing business in staY,s out and then after a long period -- 1:45 Te·rritorial Waters, S.RAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Contine'lttal Shelf etc. Bill these catches are brought back. This doubt that as time goes on, we will question, I think, has oalso give?- rise have to face nE:w problems and adjust to· certain variati9ns in the attitudes ourselves and perhaps . even adjust nsibility' of the. Uni0n .. ccroperatien amonii- themselves' for· Government. Besidl;!S the administra- settling maritime boundaries· and tiv:e absurdity? in such a concept that:. mutual co-operation; which of course: after twe:ve· miles the Central Ge>v- will · not · fructify · overnight, for- tl1'e ernrnent officials- talte care of· fislierii:s:·. beneficial' transfer of technor:ogy and- the, fishing professi0n · and that·. among themselves, which· is· most:• im- within twelve- miles· the State Gov-· portant bE:cause technologically most ermnent officia1s will. do. th'e · same,- I i of these countries are still far, far want· to lmow from ·the - hon. Ministel"' behi-r:rd the ad:\,anced countries, and of Law- whether: it is- possible• to, thati is where · we- are at 1 a disaclvan- Identify- one, single agency for th-e:· tage,- but we cannot a1waY,s · safeguard purp:ose of administering and manag- our• interests simply- by -putting ·down ing. the fishing trade as .such. laws on paper. Laws on paper have to be backed by resources and techno- The . point which I am ma-king is. logy whkh will permit us to really very ·;ralid, with due apologies to.· assert our national sove·reignty and Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan because<· our 'rights against the more- powerful the right of fishing of ·Indian' seamen Powers. So, there should be some within 200 nautical miles from the arra'ngement alsc, -for beneficial mu- coast has ne¥er been protected and 'ktal transfer of technology among preserv:~d as such. In difining the these non-aligned countries who, 'exclusive economic zone we-have said, after all have got such great identity "exclusive' jurisdiction to preserve and· among themselves which is bringing protect the marine enviornment and · them together in this great confer- to prevent and con'trol marine pol1u- ence which is taking place now. tion." I looked into the definiticm; of the "designate_d areas", and there With these words I support the Bill the same thing continues because it and hope tl:at I will get replies to says: "In regard to the' continental some · of the questions which I have shelf, sovereign rights for the purpose· raised. of exploration, exploitation, censer- ~ vatfon· and management of all re- MR. SPE:AKER: I think we have sources". May I know from the hon. exceeded~ the time far too much, and Minister whether, since the· continen- still there are three speakers left. tal shelf has been defined' as includ- ing all resources this includes the· SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara): marine bi.ologicai resources aISo. While welcoming· this Bill, I would like to draw the attention of the mrrr ;;r) Gf~ if f;.; ·~ ••ft~"~ar hon.• Mini$,'l;er - to fishing w.hich is - of · '3'~ '. ;i:;r · ~~~' fwm~ ~~ gre:;it impqrtance to us. and • to our ... fishe;rmen_.. ~ - 1

En.t(rY; _No .. - $7 . o_f., the· Unfo:tt-. List ~ ~~ : ~ : ~-r.\ ~ ~ -;r.w~ ~~'/ti . mentions' fi;~hing and.· fisheJ:ies!> ~ifcmd • ~~ifr terri~9~1~1 - :w;a~rs , ast _a •.~ubje,c~ 1 to...--,be-: ce;.it! .. ~~~ :., ,bir :t~e ,. cen_tral _ G~e-m~ ~) l\(To qfo. ~ : ----~J ~, -~ ~ me,n~.,., ,bu~ ~ ~tr~t ;N~ :r.- 21 . pu~ r! ft'.sherles"' - ~:'f.ii~ I f~~-,~~- -~ -~~1• •1: · ·as.... ~{1 - ~i$b:i~-.it~ ~i$.l· ' J: . ~ ' 149 G~ tt~itJ< e11;!.q.! . ~~-~1'· etc. Bm · _, This is_- of su,ch v~tcil . imR9+tancEt. _ to been added to thE1-. ar}~OUfie s,-. of tAe our fis;termeri alpng our coastline of worlcl, no area of tlie earth iS pro- ... 3,5-00· miles. In ' view, of the encroch- tected a-gainst1 tlie« missile~~ . -,__ ment of'-these areas· -by aliens wi~H superior technology ·as well as traw- Th~~;gr~ ; th~ . m~w,ii!lg of- an _ lers I- think a categorical assurance ecpno-zWc z9ne,-, tQda,y. ha;~ a; sigpifi---- wo~ld-' go.· a long' ~ay:. cap. r;:e,; it h;11;-s: an eeq~ oµiic sigpifip- ance-. Wf?- cong:rPe,ct. of pop.stal fish-, I hope;_ tllai ~ ... - · ing, even ' today our_ fishermen with mechanisgd boats go _ beyond· hye:lve M~ . iff'~AY.ER : The, hon. Membe-r - wi,ll ~ntinu ei_ 'after- Lunc):i. ~ ~ I naoutieal~ miles. The poillt· tl:l-at hasi been raised by Mr. Rao is very valid. We_ aqjpurn to meet <>.gain at Already, fi~P.er _r.rien fr.Pro . m.y area.. an~ 2.00 p .:rµ. qul'ln-elling with fisl:'ier_men from. Goa . .._ Fishermen frmn , Sou:th . K;mara in 13.00 .- ~ . Karnataka are. h;aving a . battle royal_, ?'- a rupning battle, _ with fisher;men. The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch coming from Tamil Nadu. A~ready there is thc,1t fierce. war. We ha:ve. o.ur till Fou-rteen. _of the Cio.ck own sort of_cod -or ;mackeral or sar- dine war. They are not able to see eye to eye. Therefore, wh.en you have The. LQ}c Sablla re-assembled after · defined fishing within the territorial Lup.<;h_. at four mib,.µtes paiit Fourti;ien waters as th<;? _ bu_siness of the_ State of _the . Clock ~ Governments do we give the State Governmen_t ' the exdusiv~ rigl:).t to [MR. DEPUTY'-SPEAKE~ in the Chair} prevent oth~r people from cpmi_pg I. in the des:gnated area? I hope I TERRITORIAL WATERS CONTI- have registered this point and that NENTAL SHELF, EXCLUSIVE ECO- the h0n .. MinisteF will -kindly give a. NOMIC ZONE- AND OTHER MARI- reply. This is a plain ' 'question, al- TIME" ZONES- BILL-Contd. most a fisherman's 'q\lestion asking_ you wh>ether I as an . Indian fisher- MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Mr. B . man have the full right upto 200 V. Naik to continue his speech. miles- tell me yes or no-and nobody, Russian Japanese Chinese or Tai- SHRI·B ; V. NAIK: Leaving aside ·1, wanese,' will ccm~ into our -waters. the question· of;the fisheries in reg(lrd !>---. / If that is protected, it will have a to the exclusive' rights of-our fisher- tremendous impact on· our fisheries men, the: rn:.xt - issue. is wJth regm:d trade .'J.nd on the grow-th of our traw- to the -territorial waters. _ Clause 3 of lers, and-- there will not be this dog the BfU says' cleadY ~ fight bet-ween the big and small "Tbe ~ soYeX.e~gn.ty of , Irn;Iia. _ex- _- fishermen. tell,qs _,anq has alwws ext.ended to Within the area of the exclusive-· the territorial waters of India ecornoraic zone you -want to -put • the, ( ~ete.i~~i~.r _referJ;ed to as the_te:r - rito:rial.. wa~e:r;~), , ,an_c;L to the .seabed desigaa-ted. area and _the ~ contiguous•, anp :..w.J:i.~ o.!l u.n~~r1rJ.I.l$,_ and. the a_ir ~ zone; b'uf.'.if :I thave.-umcleJ:stoocil-Jarig:Pt,1 - • the . a-rea·- of te:rritorial> wateil!S·' was" spp.1>,e _. OY!i!,t;, , _suc.h w~t~,rs.. " .__,,,.- purely-. ' ~n the basis of 1the in:t;etin-a .. All along O\Jr coast there · are those<- tionab power sliMation. 'It'- was -anz, -- coastal strips lying virtually at·:zer0> - area.,whiah··-ceu1ct ~'bl:; said to:~awi 0 :1'1iai>n.~nd-~canom;i ;>. :of. . par~ iP.}1:1 ~ ~:n.e~ 1 , :l,l~u.;ajjlv,_,.) -P \J.~~ it; .be?-.,• . ___ ~~t :~; - -wi~;i- tbi! 1 .miss~l~s~t~t Lha-Ye _- -- Territorial Waters, AUGUST 17, J976 '.Continental Shelf etc. Bill

[Shri B. V. Naik] .SHRI 'B. V. NAIK. This Bill in its assessment, and in its ultidiate the high water-tide mark and low analysis, will have_ to prove. its ere'.. -- above the , low watet-tide mark. In dibility on the basis of international c. some parts ot our country in an area acceptance. There are controversies .as long as lOU k.m. there will be 20 in the forums of United Nations re- to 30 thousand acres of land. There garding the problems of the develop- . are no .clear-cut · land records .. exist- ed countries with· coasts and develop- ing in the States regarding these ed countries without coasts. lands. These are known as ·5a]t lands, khar lands or salt water lands. As MR. DEPUTY-Si='EAKER: I think ·to whose clear jurisdiction it is, you are going of the limit of this ·whether of the Centre or of the Bill. .States, has not d efined. I wish that the jurisdiction of this thing should SHRI. B. V. NAIK: Sir, I will try ·b e defined and it should be comple- to confine myself within the 200 . tely taken over by. the Centre. nautical mile limits. I welcome the Bil_l to the extent certain areas are There is already a controversy in . defined. There is provision in this · respect of the Backbay Reclamation Bill that you can alter even the ter- : in Bombay. In regard to coastal ritorial limits of 12 k.m. Alter for · waters of India, in r ~gra d to those what? Alter for further extension or lands which are below the zero alti- for reduct.ion or alter your adjacent' ·tude, there is dispute as to whose areas? Therefore, if it is a question jurisdiction it is. There is dfspute of . an admillistrative order subse- ·whether it belongs to the Corpora- quently to be t aken by the Govern- . tion of Bombay the Stat€ of Maha- ment, without the sanction here. I rashtra or the 'union of India as think the word 'alter' should be cur- a national asset. In regard to' our tailed. It m ay mean reduction or ex- , tension. · - big me';ropolit

of the sea resources, the conce11led covered a largest fishbreeding centre marine wealth can be exploited for known as · the Wadger Bank fo the the use of mankind. It was in this seas of T'rivandrum. Naturally, our context that great articulation had' country should become concerned, been initiated in various countries therefore, about the Seas and it is particularly developing countries for .this concern that is reflected in this the study of marine science and for Bill · that has been bru~g!lt forward the · exploration of the resources of before us by the i>steemed Law the sea. Thanks to the consistent Ministers. movement or agitation that was· car- The most significant achievement of ried on m the developing countries, the conference on the law of seas is .. r- particularly, by the non-aligned the establishment of what is called an countries, the U , N. was moved to · exclusive economic zone. The tradi- hold the Conference on the law of the tional view, about the jurisdiction seas. · As everyone knows four and rights of countries in regard fo. sessions of this conference were al- the adjacent seas was limited to what ready held and the fifth one is now was called territorial waters extend- currently being ~eld in New York. ing only a few nautical miles from . their Coast lines. But today because · . of these discoveries of the existence · Fortunately, the Conference has of vast resources in the seas, the con. been able to arrive at broad consen- cept of an economic zone' was deve- sus at least on some of the major loped. This Bill seeks to establish an issues. And this Bill seeks to incor- exclusive economic zone extending · porate achievements so far of the from the appropriate base line deep· Conference on the law of the seas. into the sea upto 200 nautical miles : I happened to be in New York when where we will have exclusive rights. our esteemed Law Minister was at- over ~iving and non-living resources tending that Conference, I knew how and jurisdiction for certain other mat- lively it was and how effective the ters such as scientific experiments. advocacy our own Law Minister had Perhaps, we a~e late in this field. been to achieve some of our national Already the U.S.. Canada, Mexico and · aspirations in this regard at that France and in our neighbou;hood ' Conference. Banglades!l, and Sri Lanka have taken legislative steps to ·establish this eco- nomic zone. Perhaps, our Law Min- As everyone knows, India has a ister has taken time to introduce this long coast line of 4,000 miles; our Bill because he was expecting further '-- country includes about 1,280 islands favourable outcomes from the current and islets including the ar~hipelagos session now being held in New York. of Andaman and Nicobar Islands and It is also perhaps the reason why we· the Lakshadweep. This naturally are saying in this Bill that Govern- makes us very much concerned about ment will at appropriate time notify w'.rnt is happening in the seas-in the t!le time when - these . provisions will Bay of Bengal, AI'.abian Sea and in the come into J:?ffect. Indian Ocean-where we had enorm- ous mineral resources cancelled under With respect to this 200 nautical the seas. On the western coast, in the miles exclusive economic zone we will ~, Arabian sea-in the Bombay High and have absolute sovereign rights for ex- Bassein, regions we have been ab1~ to ploitation of living and non-living re- prospect and exploit oil, consequent sources. Further, we will have juris- ""( upon the studies made about the exis- diction over other matters including tence of hydro-carbon in that area. putting artificial islands or other in-· As early as the later half of the. 18th stallations for purposes of drilling and' century, great marine biologists dis- prospecting of oil. *53 iWrttortoi Wafrrt, *WU*S *7, XM* Owfemtol *fff gg

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\ H.R. GOKHALE): Sir, ·r am very grate_ be 12 miles. Even here it is not as if ful to the House because there has been di,fferent distances were not claimed. a very ·satisfying arid good debate. Some countries claimed upto 30 miles,. ln fact, the standard of the discussion some up to even 1-00 miles. But today on this Bill has been fairly high. Al- the position has emerged that_ 12 miles though every one supported the Bill, has been regarded as a general con- so many point~ were referred to to sensus with regard to the extent of highl'ight the importance of some as- territorial waters. pects affecting th!! faw of the se-dS. The same thing applies to contiguous· That is as it should have been. -zones. It begins, of course, from t'J.e- same base line from 'which the terri- In my opening remarkes, I had very torial zone begins,' but extends up to briefly attempted to point out the 24 miles, which means about 12 miles· broad consensus which has emerged further ahead of the limit at which the On some of the po.lnts which have been territorial' waters come to an end. The- under negotiation and discussion in the jurisdiction in respect of this conti- Law of the Sea Conferences which nuous zone is in certain n;iatters like have been taking place for the last so customs fiscal matters, iimmigration, many years. Unfortunately, the im- sanitary' and such other matters, where pression generally held seems to be ordinarily outside our territorial that the only major po'int in the law v. aters the jurisdic~ion of our country of the seas is ·the economic zone. It is would not have extended and our laws· no doubt ~ major point but not the only would not have been applicable. So. marjor point. In fact, 'there are many this idea of a contiguous zone is other issues of equally great impor- another matter in which I think I can tance which are being negotiated and say safely there has been a general' discussed in the· law of the seas con- consensus at the Conference. ference and had been discussed in the previous conferences. The Bill does The third is wit'i. regard to the eco·- not take care of all these issues. We nomic zone: which is most spoken of. are here concerned with the provision not only in this country but all over· of our maritime zones. With regard the world, because it is a new id~a­ to other matters wJ;lich are outside the which has emerged in the recent past. scope of defining our maritime zones, In article 297 of our Constitution, the Bill does not say anything. It before its. amendment by the Fortieth- was not expected that a Bill of this Amendment. there was a reference to type would say anything about other the continental shelf, althqugh the matters which do not pertain to our. extent of the continental shelf and its maritime zones. definition was not given. But, for the· first time. after the Fortieth Amend- There has · !Jeen a consensus on the ment when article 297 was amendPd, extent of territorial sea. We started there' is a reference to other zon"'s. with' three miles under a Presidential like the economic zone. the territori ;il Notification and then extended it to 6 waters the conting1w.rn areos and 1he miles. In the Carcas Conference which contin~ntal shelf. and power is tak:n - I attended"as a . representative of this under f::ie Constitution so that Parlia- country. I first said, it should be 12 ment can nass appropriate laws in miles. That was said on the basis of order not oniy to lay down the limits what was noticed as a general con- of the maritime zone· but also to oro- sensus in the countries participating vide for certain other matters, which in that conference. Today we are in are closely connected with the use to" a position to say that a very large which these zones would be put by- majority of the courtries partlcipat- our country. ing in the conference, including the .developed countries, have agreed that The economic zol'le, as I said is a the extent of territorial waters should recent concept, comparatively speak-- l4 i Territorial Waters, SRAVANA 16, 1898 (SAKA) Continental Shelf 162 etc. Bill 'tag, and X think our country should exploit is there, the right of navigation take credit lor it that for the first time of the international community is not it waa raised by us, along with certain hampered. Now, if areas are allowed other countries, when w * insifted that to be designated, ultimately when it is it was to the utmost advantage, parti­ brought into force, we would have to cularly of the developing countries, protect our rights in respect o£ our that an exclusive economic 2one of installations. For example take the 200 miles should be available for the Bombay High, where we hav* got oil full exploitation and exploration of the wellg which are dug in many places. living as well as non-living resources They are well within the economic in the economic zone. When we say zone and certainly within tbe conti­ that India has complete sovereignty, nental shelf. If the areas are desig­ or will have complete sovereignty nated and some places were called over the economic zone___ reserved areas, by designating the SHRI N. K. P. SALVE iBetul) : same as designated areas, the naviga­ Will tt be complete? tion of certain ships through those areas will be regulated, or sometimes SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: No. I am prohibited, so that our security ins­ coming to that. When we say that we tallations are safe or what we sre have sovereignty, it is not to say that doing or what we are not doing there the economic zone will become a part is not known to outside forces. of the territory of India. Someone said earlier that when you are saying SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: In this area, for an economic zone you have com­ are you entitled to have defence instal­ plete sovereignty, certalin laws can be lations? Because, you have limited extended and made applicable to that jurisdiction. I will make myself clear. area, as if it is a part of the territory In the exclusive economic zone the of India. It is not so. So far as sovereign rights are for exploration territorial waters are concerned, of and exploitation and for conserving course, they are part of the territory ocean wealth. Section 6(b) speaks of India, but not the economic zone. only of safety and protection of arti- ,ficial islands, off-shore installations In the economic zone one will have etc. Does it give you the power to put exclusive right to explore and exploit defence installations? I am asking the living and non-living resources, this question because we have seen which will of course take in the right the invaluable work done at the of fisheries, which will also take in Bombay High. You know how open the right of deep sea mining such as and how vulnerable it is. So, this exploitation of mineral resources, and question has some significance. Could all available evidence indicates that you have defence installations to pro­ there are plentv of it not only in the tect your interest in the exclusive economic zone which will come to us. economic zone? but all over the world, in manv coun­ tries which will come under the SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: Firstly, the economic zone, such minerals as. for provisions relating to designated areas example, copper, cobalt or mineral here do not anywhere talk of any nodules of different types, which are defence installations. The 'Second available at the bottom of the sea. thing is. they talk of designated area for certain purposes, where certain MR. DKPUTY-SPEAKER; What is installations are there. In the econo­ the meaning of “the designated area”? mic zone navigation is free. But if SHRI H- R GOKHALE: I am certain areas are designated in respect coming to that. For example, in the of those designated areas certain exclusive economic zone, even though regulations or restrictions can be put the sovereignty to explore and on navigation, so that our installations, 1382 L8—8. or whatever we have there In respect -- 163 Territorial Waters; AUGUST 17, ·l976 Continental Shelf etc. Bill

[Shri ,H- R. GokhaleJ nautical miles · which is the exclusive econoimc zone, will we have any · of exploration or exploitation can be security right in respct of that area protected from outside view· or from beyond the 200 miles, if it is· within · destruction or such other' things. So t'Je continental shelf? ' far as this Bilr goes, that is the limited purpose of providing for areas to be SHRI H.R. GOKHALE: In respect designated under this Act. What I was of the economic zone, there is no doubt saying was that here we have got t'1is that we have got the exclusive right idea of the exclusive economic zone. for exploration and exploitation, both in respect of the resources in the water The additional thing which has column and at the bottom of the sea, emerged with regard to the various on the sea floor. zones is this concept of the continental shelf. · As bas' been evident from the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Not even provisions of this Bill, while the idea fishing, only sedentary fish. ·of the economic zone depends on a 'distance of 200 miles, the idea of a SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: That is

continental shelf is not dependent on beyond the ·economic zone where we '\ distance. It has got a geographical or are outside the 'economi~' . zone, but · geo-physical con.notation. It may be still within the continental shelf area, that in given circumstances it may be where we have got the right of ex- beyond the 200 mile limit, which is ploitation of the sea bed or the ocean part of t"ie economic zone. I do not floor. Sedentary fish is regarded as want to say here that our continental part of the ocean floor resources, shelf goes or does not go beyond the which can be exploited by us. within 200-mile limit, but theoretically it is the continental shelf areas. possible that the area which is covered by the continenfal shelf can The definition of the continental be beyond the 200 mile limit of the shelf was first evolved in the Conven- economic zone. In any case,' the right tion which was signed in 1958, which in respect of exploration and exploita- is called the Geneva Convedion. tion will continue up to the 200-mile Subsequently, no Convention a,~ such limit; it would not be less than 200 has yet been signed. There, of Clt.,.:Jrse, miles. But if the continental shelf is there was a very general definition beyond the 200-mile limit then it is given, which would mean that 'co n- subject to this restriction' that while tinental shelf' would include the shelf in the econoimc zone we· have got all plus the natural prolongation of the the rights of exploration and exploita- coastal territory which was t.aken, the tion, we 'Jave even got the right to slope and the rise upto t'Je end of the i control pollution, we have got the right ·margin; it will all be covered within for marine research and so on and so the continental shelf concept; the sub- forth, if the area extends outside the soil area, and tae bed area will be economic zone but it is still within the there. That is wh at is generally ac- continental shelf, then we have got the cepted now as the concept of the con- right, so far as exploitation ·of t'Je t inental shelf and which is now taken resources on the ocean floor, that is, in t'Je Bill as defining the continental the bed of the ocean is concerned. We shelf because it is thought-and I will be entitled to fisheries, which is think rightly-that on this aspect of limited to wh at is known as sedentary the matter, there is no difference. fish, which we will be able to take. but There · is substantially no difference the ·water column whic'J is above the even between the developed countries floor up to the surface is free, that is and the developing countries with re- available for everyone. gard to these four concepts--· if I m ay repeat very briefly. t'Je concept of DR. HENRY AUSTIN: Suppose the territorial waters, the concept of eco- continental shelf extends beyond 200 nomic zone, the concept of contiguous tx$5 Territorial Watert, SRAVANA 7898 (SA&A) Continental Shelf i f t . etc. BiU zone and the concept oi continental dragged on from year to year la* stafli. years to come and nothing concrete was coming out, and unless something One question lias been raised—I ex­ like a push was made applicable, po pected that it would be raised—and Final conclusion would be reached. I that is, why is it that the two clauses do not want to comment on what Dr. *01 the Bill, namely, Clause 5 and Kissinger said and to what extent be Clause 7, one dealing with contiguous was right or not. But the fact is that -zone and the other dealing with ex­ he had said this in the meeting in clusive economic zone, these provi­ New York, to some businessmen sions, are not being made eflective whom he was addressing; in that immediately after the Bill receives the meeting, he spoke extensively ab6ut •assent of the President. I had said the American point of view re&rding 'earlier—and it was rightly pointed out the Law of the Sea question. We do by hon. Member. Shri Indrajil Gupta, not wish to give any impression that 'in the course of his speech and I fully we are taking any unilateral action... agree with him—that there should be no attempt to five an impression that SHRI N. K. P. SALVE: Irrespective we want to take any unilateral action. of what they say. The whole thing is being discussed at the international level. While it is SHRI H. R. GOKJiALE: Yes, irres­ ' true that there is a consensus in res­ pective of what they say. We have pect of some of the matters, it is not said March 1977. All that we have equally true (hat that consensus is said is that it will be when the Go- still a consensus, it has not matured \emment will, by issuing a notifica­ into a treatv which can be regarded tion. bring them into effect. There­ as part of the existing internallonal fore. our option is open, to decide 00 law. I hope there will not be any the appropriate time when these pto- difficulty so far as these concepts are vi&’ons should be brought into force. concerned. When they come, nobody In lact. we really cive effect to the will be jn a position to s;iv that, by idea that there will be no unilateral taking unilateral action, depending action It is not perhaps that clear in only on the consensus, we have, bv respect of the American legislation legislation, in exercise of our sovereign because there is a sort of ultimatum powers, done this or done 1h;»i. in that, that is. upto March 1977; th«» their law will be passed and they will A reference was made by hon. go ahead with the exploitation of the Member, Shri Samar Muk'ienee. to resources of 200 miles, whatever the the legislation passed in the United International Conference on the Law States. The Congress has passed a o f the Sea mav or may not decide. It legislaion and there, of course, as far is true that these are not the tour as I have been able to Rather, it is things which really are important to limited to the right to exploit fi^herv the Conference There are many resources uplo 200 miles. There a’so. more things or ver> great importance the legislation is not made effective on which there has been no under, immediately; it is to come into effect standing, where we are far away from from March 1977. The whole idea consensus yet. One such thing was relerred to and, very apprOpBatdy, w h s made clear bv Dr. Kissinger when he spoke in the meeting, to which he by Mr. Indrajil Gupta in his speech. referred, in New York: he said tht.t, Of course, as he said, as you go cm first of all, there should be no unila­ fixing the zones,—he used a very ap­ teral action; the second thing was that propriate word,—the area of the open this would lend a certain degree of high seas gets contracted. I think be urgency to the deliberations ol the said there is a shrinkage of the open Conference; every one was greatly sea. That is what he said. It does disappointed and had, in fact, become happen. To the extent you give ex­ pessimistic that this Conference had clusive rights to the coastal States 167 Territorial Waters, AUGUST 17, 1976 Contfecfttat *ka# ate. AM Ifi*

[Shri H. XL Gokhale] India, But now the conflict there, the that part of it goea out of what will be discussion there and the difference the open sea for exploitation. There­ these which has emerged out of this is fore, the people who want to have that the International Sea-bed Autho­ everything lor themselves do look rity may do it ia the high tea area* upon these things with a certain which are the common heritage o f degree of resistance. mankind; but as for countries and au­ thorities which are developed, which Now, in the last Conference in New have got the technology, which have York, not this one which is going on got the resources and which have got now, an attempt was made by the the wherewithal for exploring these United States of America to introduce areas, why should they be prevented this principle that even though these from exploring these areas even though economic zones are acceptable, for the an International Sea-bed Authority ia purposes of other reasons they can established? Now, this is resisted still be regarded as part of the high very much by us and by other deve­ seas. Now it was a contradiction in loping countries. One reason is that terms and we have resisted it and if such a thing is allowed, there is a ultimately, it has not gone through. great danger of the International Sea­ But this supports the idea that the bed Authority itself becoming, what shrinkage of the high seas does not you call, a non-starter. Therefore, if ■become very palatable to some of the it is to be a matter fully under the countries. If you go to the high seas, control of an International authority that is where really a substantial area such exploitation or exploration of of disagreement particularly between these areas, in addition to the exploita­ the developing countries and the deve­ tion by the International Sea-bed Au­ loped countries has arisen. thority, becomes extremely dangerous Now. who will exploit the areas for other countries which do not have which are on the high seas and which the resources. All the resources will, have been regarded as the common be pooled. In fact the resources of heritage of mankind? My friend. the International Sea-bc,j Authority Mr. Gupta, was right that the United also, to a certain extent, will come Nations had passed a resolution in from the countries which have got the- 1971, if I am right, laying down a resources and the money, and when certain moratorium with regard to the they do not have the incentive to build exploitation of those areas until a finsl up the International Sea-bed authority treaty was signed or an agreement and they have got a right to go cn. on reached. The United Nations resolu­ their own. exploring these areas, the tion in this respect, as in other res- International Sea-bed Authority will pects, is, of course, of great moral be a mere dream. An international re­ value, but nothing more than that. gulation of exploitation of these resour­ While. I know, for the purpose of ces of the high seas will »ct sufficient­ commercial exploitation, this morato­ ly to the detriment of the interests of rium has so far been adhered to. at­ the developed countries... tempts are being made in the Law of the Seas Conference where there is an MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I? there a encroachment, there is an attempt at convergence of interests of big powers an encroachment for themselves alone in this regard? to explore these areas of the high seas to the detriment of an international SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: There is. authority which is called the Inter­ to a certain extent. The big powers national Sea-bed Authoritv which is have converged on this. The point is sought to be established. Most deve­ really the question of the haves and' loping countries have supported the the have-nots. Those who have the concept of the constitution of an Inter, technology, those who have the money, national Sea-bed Authority. So also those who have everything else «hich< .An Territorial Water*, SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) Continental Shelf 170 etc. Bill State will have the jurisdiction. Re- is needed to carry on this on their own here they were saying thBt in respect want t* do it irrespective of whether cently when the Americans came or not... of foundamental research they should have the power t° carry on research MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Cutting not only in economic zone but in across ideological lines? territorial waters. These are ’natters which are pending discussion and SHRl H. R. GOKHALE: Yes, cutting solution at the international level, in across even ideological lines. This has the international sea conference. happened. We have been discussing this, and a delegation of the Ameri­ As to pollution, particularly, with cans—with their leader who was also reference to pollution by oil by neviga- the leader in the conference in New tion, a convention was signed sometime York—a8 well as the Soviet Delegation back. India had signed that conven­ came here and we have had long dis­ tion with rergard to uollul'oi of the cussions with regard to th

[Shri H. R. Gokhale] action. Other Questions were raised which were very valid. They were that in clause 5, there is an injunction with regard to the historical waters. that “no person including a Foreign It was said this Act does not define Government, shall except under and in the historical waters. It does not de­ accordance with the terms of any fine the historical rights. It is well agreement of the Central Government, understood that so far as historical or by a licence or a letter of autho­ waters are concerned, they are those- rity granted by the Central Govern­ over which the coastal states effective­ ment. explore or exploit any resources ly, continuously and. over a substan­ of the exclusive economic zone.*' tial period of time, exercise the sove­ There is a proviso that: reign rights with the acquiescence “Provided that nothing in the of the community of States meaning sub-section applies in relation to a thereby that irrespective of the zones citizen ol India. which are the result of an international law or any other legislation, by force This does, not apply to a citizen of of historical circumstances, certain India So, my hon. friend. Mr. Naik. waters have been recognised as such, need have any anxiety any longer. by a community of States which were affected by them. In the historical With regard to the mantime boun­ waters, we have the right to exploit dary, ia some cases, that has been or explore the resources. They are settled by negotiations. For example, recognised as historical waters. with Sri Lanka they have been settl­ ed. They have also been stttled with So far as Sn Lanka is concerned, regard to Indonesia Discussions are with regard to the Palk Strait*, by low in progress with the other coun­ an agreement, they have been accept­ tries and they are still in the process ed as our historical water* on our of negotiations and vre hope that even side With regard 1o the ether part, with regard to the other neighbour­ discussions are going on and may be* ing countries, solutions advantageous some solution will be found with to both the countnes will be found. regard to that also In fact, an attempt has been made in this regard. I think I have already said about SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE (Calcutta the pollution I said that any discus­ North-East)- What about Burma and sion with regard to the federating Bangladesh’’ Unions of India may n°t be necessary and may not even be proper to be SHRI H R. GOKHALE; 1 am min­ entered into. At this stage, when we ing to that As I said already with are discussing this Bill, I have tned regard to Sree Lanka and Indonesia to clarify the position with regard to boundaries have been demarcated al­ the international sea-bed authority ready. Negotiations are going on and the exploitation of the resources with Borm

Coming to Andaman and Nicobar 15 hn. islands, that has been a point ok which there has been a difference ot SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE. Since it ig the idea that developing nation* opinion between the position which we took at the last Conference and ihr should move as closely together ms other countries. Of course. Andaman possible, may I know how in relation and Nicobar islands are Dart of th» to tbe idea not only of historic waters territory of India. They are not which seems tu me somewhat intangi­ archipelago States in thenwlves as ble but also with regard to the more some other archipelago States are concretely defined economic /one but still they have all thf» character­ whether we have had discussions with istics of an archipelago. They are a such countries as Burma and Bangla­ duster of islands. They have got desh because this idea of the economic their own internal waters and for all zone extending to 200 miles or so on practical purpose they may not be the part of both Burma and Bangla­ distinguished from the other archipel­ desh might lead to certain purely ago States. But in suite of the !*ne- geographical problems which would flts which these islands and their have economic and other repeicus- clusters should receive on the basis of sions and those problems would have the various zones which an* sought repercussions on us also? Sinc-i this to lie established we had been saving is a legislation which is going to that these should be regarded as strengthen our hands in the task of archipelagos and thev should hav» having an international understand­ status which other archipelagos have. ing, may i know if in regard to our There are about thirtv such archipel­ own neighbours—who are all aev elop­ agos all over the world. The other . ing countries—we have had discus­ countries where similar question* sions which gave us tangible idea of have arisen have taken this attitude concretisation of the economic /one that though part of the mainland, they , and similar other devices which are are archipelagos geographically and mentioned in this Bill so that we can for alll other practical purposes should proceed in a more optimistic manner? given the same status as full-fledg­ ed archipelagos. This has been resist­ SHRI H R. GOKHALE. In fact, ed by other countries particularly there are two important matters about the powerful countries and I would which J forget to mention. One was not say that the whole auestion is the land .locked countries and the closed because we have raised it over other if. regarding the islands like again in this Conference being held Andaman and Nicobar. But ljefore 1 at New York and will continue to do that I would refer to what Shri raise it in future. Even Ihough they Mukerjee said. First of all, I said are not recognised as archipelagos, that so far as demarcation of the the 200-mile limit is going to apply maritime boundaries between India even on the basis of their being meoe and Sri Lanka and India and islands. But the Doinl is that there Indonesia are concerned, an .tgreemeni are various other issues which arise has been reached. So far as other when they are regarded as archipel­ countries like Burma, Bangladesh. agos. the question of intern* waters «te. wre concerned, discussions are in and so on and so forth. Therefor*, Progress. We have tried to open we are not satisfied with a status f 75 Territorial Water*, AUQtJST JOT* Continental Shelf etc. SRI 176

[Shri H. R. Gokhale] by Bajya Sabha, be taken into which is less than an archipelagic consideration” status for these island*, which are part of the territory of India. The motion was adopted.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We take Then with regard to landlocked up clause by clause consideration. states, we had taken, according to my submission, a very reasonable at­ The question is: titude at the conference because we ourselves are concerned very closely “That clause 2 stand part of the with some landlocked uta'.es like Bill.” Nepal and Bhutan. We wanted to take a reasonable attitude. We decid­ The motion was adopted. ed that we recognise that even though these landlocked states are disadvan­ Clause 2 was added to the Bill. taged because they are not on the coast, they should not be completely denied all the benefits of the resources Clause 3— (Sovereignty over, and of the sea. This is the position taken limits 0} territorial uwiters). by some other countries also in res­ SHRl B. V. NAIK- I move: pect of landlocked states, but there is certainly no unanimity, consensus or Page 2. line tf.— understanding yet. We have been saying that while they should have for “alter" substitute "extend” the benefit of exploiting the living re­ (5) sources of tht sea, they will not have the right to exploit the non-living I only want to ask the hon. resources of the sea, but all this, we Minister whether ‘alter by noti­ said, will depend on mutual under­ fication.. .’ means rejection or does standing and negotiations, because it mean only extension. even if Nepal has to come to the seashore for exploiting the living re­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: May mean sources, they will have to pass anything. through the territory of India and such SHRI H R. GOKHALE: It is very matters as the right to have a route easy. Alteration is a much wider term or, for example, to lay down pipes than extension. or whatever is necessary can only be I determined toy mutual negotiations MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques­ between the landlocked state and our country. But generally our attitude tion is: has been of sympathy and under­ ‘Page 2. line 6,— standing so far as the londlocked states are concerned. No solution has for “alter”, substitute “extend” yet been reached, but I hope as days (5) go by in this conference or, may be. in the next, some way out will he The motion u>as negatived. found. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Th* ques­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The tion is: question is; “That clause 3 stand part of the “That the Bill to provide for Bill” . certain matters relating to the territorial waters, continental shelf, The motion was adopted. exclusive economic zone and other maritime zones of India, as passed Clause 3 was added to the BUI. 177 Contingency Fund of SRAVANA 26, 1698 (SAKA) India (Amdt) Bill 17H

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Clause 4. The Bill seeks t0 further amend the Amendment No. 1 by Shri K. Narayana Contingency Fund of India Act. 1950, rRao. He is absent. The question is: for the purpose of raising the corpus of the Contingency Fund of India Rs. 30 "That clause 4 stand part of the crores to Rs. f>0 crores. The Contin­ Bin*’. gency Fund ol India was established under arMcle 267(1) of the Constitution The motion was adopted. in 1950 with a corpus of Rs. 15 crores Clouse 4 was added to the Bill. to enable advances to be made out of it for purposes of meeting unforeseen Clauses 5 to 8 1 cere added to the Bill. expenditure ponding authorisation of such expenditure by Parliament by law under article 115 cr article 116 of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Clause 9. the Constitution. The corpus of the Amendments by Shrri K. Naray;tna Fund wap raised 10 Rs. 30 crores in Rho—he is absent. The question is: 1970. “Clauses 9 to 16 stand part of the Bill”. Of the total corpus of Rs. 30 :rores, Rs 2 rmres have currently been placed The motion tra* adopted. at the disposal of the Minu-try of Railways and the balancc of Rs. 28 Clauses 9 to 16 were added to the Bill. crores is at the disposal of the Ministry of Finance to meet the requirements of Clause 1, the Enacting Formula und the unforeseen expenditure of Civil. Title were added to the Bill. Defence and P &T Departmenls

SHRI H. R. GOKHALE: I beg to The augmentation of the corpus of move: Ihe Contingency Fund in 1970 followed the recommendation of the Adminis­ “That the Bill be passed'’. trative Reforms Commission that the corpus of the Fund should be enhanced MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; The ques­ tion is: to enable funds being found for urgent schemes and projects which could not “That the Bill be passed'’. be postponed till supply by Parliament. Another contributory factor was the The motion was adopted. convention then established in pursu­ ance of the recommendations of the Public Accounts Committee thai addi- tional requirements for investments in or loans to public sector undertakings 15.16 bn. and private concerns, grants to private institutions and certain types of subsi­ CONTINGENCY FUND OF INDIA dies. in excess of certain limits, even (AMENDMENT) BILL where these could be met by reappro- priation of savings should be treated THE DEPUTY-MINISTER IN THE as expenditure requiring specific parlia­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI mentary approval. This necessitates SUSHILa ROHATGI): Mr. Deputy- recourse in urgent cases, to the Contin­ Spenker, I beg to move*: gency Fund, if adequate time to seek supplementary provisions from Parlia­ “That the Bill further to amend ment is not available. The corpus of the Contingency Fund of India Art. the Fund was temporarily raised to Rs. 19S6, be taken into consideration.” 100 crores from 9th February to 30th

•Moved with the recommendation of the President. 179 Contingency Fund of , AUGUST 17, ‘ 1976 India tAmdt.) MU * «0

ISmt. Sushila Jftohatgi] situations in the pest when the amount April, 1972. to meet the additional in the fund was found to be insufficient^ demands following the emergence of We have not been given such specific Bangladesh. instances necessitating the increasing of the corpus of this fund from Rs. 30 The position was reviewed recently. to 50 erores. i Dti« total size of the Budget has more than doubled since the corpus of the Contingency Fund was raised in 197c deferred gross v iolation of the provisions of the until Parliamentary approval is avail­ Contingency Fund Act as well as the able. This will obviously be not in the rules made thereunder. There is an public interest. Utmost caution and in-,lance of such violation of the restraint will continue to be exercised provisions where money had been in drawing upon the Contingency drawn from the contingency fund but in ’he appropriation accounts it had Fund. been shown to have been drawn from Tht Contingency Fund of India the consolidated fund. There is an (Amendment) Bill involves a with­ instance mentioned by 'Ik* Public drawal of Rs. 20 erores from the Con Ac< oun*.s Committee in their 223nd sulidatfd Fund of India for transfer to report where an amount had been I hr Cortineency Fund of India. At drawn from the contingency fund* by this Mage, however, this transfer does the Home Ministry and at the time not involve any real outgo of cash. Sir. of showing; this in the appropriation I mo\e. accounts, it has been shown that it MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER ■ Motion has been drawn from the consolidated moved: fund This is a gross violation of the rules and shows the negligence of the •‘That the Bill further to amend government in handling this conting­ the Contingency Fund of India Act. ency fund The PAC report savs; 1950, be taken into consideration." SHRI DINESH JOARDER (Malda) “The committee are unable to This ts a small Bill and this fund understand how an advance drawn enables them to meet unforeseen from the Contingency Fund came ‘o expenditure that mav arise in *he be booked wrongly by the depart following year, expenditure which ment in the accounts for the year could not be foreseen at the time of 1973-74 as an expenditure from the preparation of the budget as also *o Consolidated Fund. What is worse, meet expenses on projects which are though expenditure incurred in taken up after a budget is passed and satisfaction of court decrees, awards before the next budget is framed and of arbitral tribunals, etc. is correctly presented to Parliament But I «m debitable as a ‘changed’ item of expenditure, the department com­ constrained to say that we have not been given any specific instances over mitted further mistake in booking Ihe Iasi 28 years since the introduction the expenditure at a voted item •f fttir Contingency Fund in 1950, This clearly indicates a gross of knowledge of the basic principles where the Government found that of accounting and classification the money at their disposal had been totallv exhausted and some unforeseen The committee would like expenditure let a prcject or some Ministry to examine this lap*e other item could not he met. This ensure that the aupenririon ****- fwir1 which stands at fls. crone* Is rlsed over the accounting of expen­ being Increased to Rs. 50 erores, Were diture Is adequate and ^ there any contingencies or emergent penvibiUty tor the lapse la letfM*- i f * Contingency Fund of SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SARA) India (Arndt) igjs Bill We do not know whether the recom­ shr «tw *frrr vim m «n i mendations ot tbe PAC have been taken due care of, whether this lapse TS if gTffrre gT ftfa has been located, who are the persons «ift Trffr v f 30 w r % responsible for this lapse, etc. Though wru 50 f*PTT an I I ^ 1he Report of the PAC has been placed before the House, the Ministry have wk *rr ecome very 5T5r wt. «f?fr 11 fcewr negligent because they have got the tjr *T *HTT ^ two-thirds majority in the House. So, ihey are takine everything vcrv " . . . .*TRT 2 % tTSffa fnfff ^ lightly. Whether It is according 1o T O TTflT fcjl the law of the land or not. whether it is in consonance with the provisions irfiRr srrc * tfs % sfvm? of the Constitution or not. everything fnftr vV TrfVi if *ft can be done because they have got the majority. rjrvrt % zrx * They are spending money and | *TC?KTcTT vi'i passing Bills in -whatever way they like in even' sphere, and they are nf t I * ’P * t f* brought before Parliament in a very JTjfcJT TTTnff «rc STTT TRT I casual waj*. We act merely as a rubber stamp for all the actions of the SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE ^Calcutta— executive. North-East); Like Mr. Daga I also They say that they want to increase feel that Government has not been the corpus of the Contingency Fund good enough to vouchsafe to us the from Rs. 30 crores to Rs. SO <*rores real reasons why this particular Bil But they have not given any reasons has been put before us. We have only for that They have not explained Vieen told 1hat the increase in the size whether they have faced any difficulty of the annual Budget requires in merging any emergent expenditure, augmentation of the corpus of the after the passing of the budget. Thev Contingency Fund of India. I am have not given anv specific instance afraid that Government has been to show that this demand is justified. remiss in so far as strict adherence to They have not given any valid reasons the normal processes of accounting for enhancing the corpus of this fund. are concerned, and very probably use At the same time, there are many of the Contingency Fund has been instances of lapses in spending money, made almost in the nature of using a as pointed out by the PAC in many of Savings Bank account in addition lo~ their reports. Therefore. I oppose this your Current Account. You dip into move of the Government. the Savings Bank account only to supplement what you happen to need, tjrnr* • iw i hut the Contingency Fund of India “ “ ^ to be treated more seriously, and one ■ should take moneys out of the Con- ffrC 283 % *83 ConHngenev Fund of AUGUST If, tM India (Amdt,) m f t * * [Shri H N. Mukerje*3 calamities which call for reUedt and tingency Fund only when there are other measures wfcich require the very special circumstances Where utilisation ol the Consolidated Fund of -those circumstances can be anticipated India, but the Contingency Fund, m ire easily, they could be put in a through experience, should be capable different way in so lar as the Budget of definition in objective terms on the figures are concerned they could come basis of the annual requirements, on tho •cut of the Consolidated Fund of India basis of the average recurrence of not out of the special devipe of the Contingencies of the sort which have Contingency Fund taken place m the last decade or so If we had before us facts in regard That is why as mv hon friend to the requirements for having to Shri Joarder pointed out a little while dip into the Contingency Fund of earlier, the Public Accounts Committee India, we can understand it but we had to take note of a matter which find that it is only said that because had originally been raised m Parlia­ the Budget size has increased, the ment My hon friend Shri Sezhiyan Contingency Fund si7e should also had raided the Question of the mis- increase That does not exactly stand utilisation of certain moneys and the to reason and that is why it is neces­ approach to the Contingency Fund of sary to have a better idea of what has India which was of a very lackadaiM happened before cal character and the Speaker had to give a ruling which required an I need not repeat what Shri Joarder investigation of the position to *he has quoted from the 222nd Report of extent that it could be made the Public Accounts Committee, but the Committee requires that Govern­ My hon friend Shri Joarder has ment should take adequate steps in already quoted from the 222nd Report regard to the Speaker’s ruling that 1he of the Public Accounts Committee lapses pointed out should be examined, whicfh has pointed out the kird of that the supervision over the

The Contingency Fund of India was SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Then you established in 1950 under articles 267(1) could have asked for an account as to- and 283(1) of our Constitution. It is bow it was used in the last five years. in the nature of an imprest. It en­ You said that it was being used in a ables the Government to meet unfore­ negligent manner, but you have not seen expediture, that is. the expendi­ cited any illustrations to prove that the ture of an emergency type, including money was so misused. that on a new service till supplementary demands are granted by Parliament. The other hon. Member said that the Such occasions arise quite often, and Fund was being used in a lackadaisical provision has to be made immediately; manner, that these contingencies could it is not possible to wait till supple­ be anticipated and provided for. Con­ mentary demands are placed before the tingency or emergency, by its very House and are passed by it. nature, cannot be anticipated; it :* something which cannot be anticipated, and such emergencies are bound to* In 1970 the corpus of the fund was increase in number as the economic increased from Rs. 15 erores to Rs. 30 transactions of Government increase in erores. In 1972, temporarily, lor two extent and depth. In 1970 our budget, months and one week, it was raised to ed transactions amounted to Rs. .100 Rs 100 erores; because of the emer­ erores and during this year our budget­ gency expenditure which we had to ed transactions amounted to Rs. 5,500 meet immediately after the Bangladesh erores. The State is taking upon itself war. I remember having participated larger and larger functions and that is in the debate when hon. Members on because We are developing into a wel­ the other side made all sorts of baseless fare and socialist State. Under these allegations that the fund was being conditions, when some difficult position utilised for party purposes. I would arises and money has to be expended, like to say that the Fund is used care­ the Government should be able to fully very cautiously and with great come forward with money for it. Sup­ restraint For instance, even if a ’>ew pose there is *n earthquake as jt hap­ service is provided for in the Budget, pened in China, do you mean to say no expenditure is incurred on it till the that the Government should wait till demands are granted by Parliament or the Supplementary Demand is passect even during the period when 'On by Parliament7... Account' grants are passed. So much care is taken to see that it is used only SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA- for emargency purposes or lo meet un­ (Serampore). Nobody has said it. foreseen expenditure. SHRl Y. S. MAHAJAN: In a welfare* Hor.. Member, Shri Duiesh Joarder, State when the Government takes care* has saiti that the money is used m a of citizen8 even from before birth till very njg’.igent manner but gave no after death, many more of such things specific instances when money wag so are bound to occur. Therefore, the used. The hon. Member did not him­ demand for increase of the corpus of self cite a single illustration to point the fund from Rs. SO erores to Rs. 50' out that the money was misused? erores is justified and I support it.

SHRI DINESH JOARDER*. That was THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE not my contention. { wanted the Gov­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- ernment to let us know m which year M ATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): I thank t*7 CaftttywUtf f m * a# A V O W 19, I M ttuiiu %**

[Smt Suahlla Bohatgi] that not orffy it hair done weU1>u£ as a aU the hon. Members who have parti, matter at fact, there is a demand from cipated in this short but interesting almost the States that there should debate be more Regional Rural Banks in every State A t the very outset I would like to allay the fears of the hon. Members Now, another need arose for deve that it U not the intention and it a^s loping co-operatives for proper distri­ never been the intention of the Gcv- bution of the essential commodi­ emment that this Contingency Fund ties to the public and for that it was should in any way be utilised in a necessary to strengthen and streamline reckless manner or in a light manner the development of co opertiveg and or should be taken, as a routine affair so a substantial amount of mone\ was Not so by any means But the required for that purpose Therefore, very nature of the Contingent *Ynd there also we found the need was itself, as the previous speaker has there stated, is something on which demands Then we found that with the levy of cannot be foreseen beforehand So, in an excise surcharge on alumuuum, case situation arises, if it is not han­ some subsidy needed to 1 * provided dled immediately in an urgent man­ to the State Electricity Boards. So ner, the very purpose of the Fund this action was taken in tim*. and we itself is lost Therefore to lay down have gone to the assistance of the all the circumstances is not very ea«y Electricity Boards This cou’ d not be But I do agree that what has been foreseen and it could not also wait lor the need for raising it needs to be ex­ the Parliament passing it at that par­ plained For that I will just enume­ ticular time So that was rret and it rate some of the cases that we had lie was authorised and done fore us. So all these are some of ttu ri aron From Oetolxr 1^7“> onwards we find There are many moie reason*' Thtrc that there a greater demand lor are some court decrees against the agricultural short-term loans from the Goveinment and these commitments various Stdles In fact, some of the have to be met immediate}' Then States wanted money for the agricul­ there were natural calamities The tural operation^ for pesticides, ferti­ calamities do not come «t oi i invita­ lisers and other things As a matter tion So some of these thu *.*• happen of fact taking all together it and we have to be prepare*! to go to may tven tome to Rs 20 crores Ag- the succour of the needv ind help ricultuial operations aie not some­ them at the right time Fo tr at also thing you will agree with me, which such a Contingency Fund should b<- we can postpone for a long time So there At the same time it is our in two instalments about Rs 10 crorev intention and it will be our constant weie taken out for this And I hope endeavour to see that there is n hon Members vull agree that, t Mas constraint on this and it should not not onl\ borne fruit hut it has ’n i l ' be misutilised As a matter of fact done something which has notified we wish to see that it receives the the purpose for which t was taken approval of the Parbamen* At the same time we also 11 nthed At the um e time I would also lik* a Regional Rural Bank Scheme oi i to sav that I was rather sorry why our Mmtster is sitting here—and for that pleasant colleague, Mr Joarder from also some money was required and CPM—I do not know wbv—should the only w'aj this contingency roul'l have chosen this occasion to inject po­ be met as expeditiously as possil le litics into the matter I do not think was through the Contingency Fund that bj passing this Bill the Lok Sabha Therefore, we And that money was will become a rubber-stamp I do not also required for the Regional Rural think that is the intention. As a matter Banks I am sure that you will agree of fact, by providing more into ' )|9 Qtm&tpeRm ■$$ * SRAVANA aft Ittt (s a k a j itmaereonon o j ^ 9 0 J^e*0iM2*cJMMjgpt Foreign Exchange (| ,«*c. (Second Arndt.) BUI etc. (Second Amtft.) B*« tta'dbrpus we witt only be helping OF REVENUE AND BANKING md' poo pi# carry out those things (SHRl PBANAB KUMAR MUKHE8 w&cq are really neceasary lor them JE&). Sir, as the hon Members ittid''tbe counlrv at large. Apart 110m aware, m December, Ii)74, Parliament tfcaV,' tfiere is hardly any other ooini enacted the Conservation of Foreign extept the violation that is brought to Exchange and Prevention of SmuggJiUi! *o(ir notice. We fln]*r instance which he has mentioned engaged in smuggling, foreign ex­ that it did not reflect any violation of change racketeering and related activi­ jthe Contingency Fund of India Act ties When the Proclamation of Emer­ itfhat happened wa« that certain items, gency necessitate^ by internal dis­ ‘ tfdre wrongly classified in the accounts turbances was issued on the 25th June I tills matter was deah with bv tf'e 1975. it became necessary to iurtber F*ablic Accounts Committee and re strengthen the provisions of law to polarisation of excess expenditure is effectively deal with the aforesaid per­ being tfeken up 7 think this should sons dunng the emergency. The blDty the fears or doubts m the minds Conservation of Foreign Exchange and of hon. Members and I request t Preventation of Smuggling Activities tile Bill may be passed Act, 1974 was therefore, amended on ' SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA 1st July, 1975, by the insertion of ? Star, there is no quorum in the H'him' special provision in the form of section MR CHAIRMAN The Bell is heirp 12A of the Act This section enable' rtiftg. the Government to issue a declara­ Now, there is quorum. tion in respect of a person detained The question is under the principal Act to the effect “ That the Bill further to <*menri that the detention of such a person is the Contingent Fund of India Art necessary to deal effectively with the 1950 be taken .nto consideration ” emergency Wherever «-uch a decla­ The motion was adopted ration Is issued the statutory require­ MR CHAIRMAN We lake up ments of communication of ground* o' clause-by-clsuse con« 'deration The detention to the detenu within fh* question ts* days of his detention and referent n nf **Th I9r O o M ra rijw p f ffetm g* ju x # u «x it, urr» iwcfHmpr w f c 'w t v w vgt 4 M # t) BiU " (9tai Pratxab Kumar Mukherjee} Of course, I support this proviata* hot dal provisiona contained in section 1 want t » know why the Ooventttobt 12A oi the Act, by another twelve is coming forward before up with ,a months. For the removal of doubts, piecemeal legislation. Those wbohad it is proposed to clarify that every been detained under this Act should declaration made under the aforesaid not be allowed to go to the court* for provision before the 16th June, 1976 seeking any relief—that provisfem would also continue to remain in force should be there. Normal laws of the during the extended period. country like the Indian Penal Code In view of the urgency of the matter and also the amendment to that code the President promulgated the Conser­ and the Criminal Procedure Code vation of Foreign Exchange and Pre­ which we have passed are also there. vention of Smuggling Activities (Am­ There should be a provision under that endment) Ordinance 1976—No. 6 of Act that whan a particular person has 1976—on the 16th June, 1976. The been found guilty of that particular Bill seeks to replace the provisions of offence, there should be a pubUc the Ordinance. censure by publication of their names I beg to move- in the newspapers and there should “T^at the Bill further to amend also be a radio announcement about the Conservation of Foreign Exch­ that, we want to know as wt*> are ange and Prevention of Smuggling these smugglers who are giving these Activities Act, 1974, be taken into sorts of difficulties to the Govern­ consideration ” . ment in conservation of foreign exch­ MR. CHAIRMAN ; Motion moved : ange and allied matters. We want to “That the Bill further to amend the know the names of the guilty persons Conservation of Foreign Exchange responsible for foreign exchange ra­ and Prevention of Smuggling Acti­ cketeering. The names of such persons vities Act. 1974 be taken into consi­ should be publicly censured. If this deration.’' is not done the people at large will SHRI OINESH JOAflDER (Malda) not know about these persons guilty Sir. we have heard the hon. Minister of smuggling and foreign exchange and al>o it has been stated in the Sta­ racketeering Further, they will have tement of objects and reasons that if the scope of maintaining the same the provisions had been allowed to la­ social status even after they come out pse, that would have created a serious- of the prison. They will be getting the set-back to the anti-smuggling opera­ same social status and free entry into tions If this is the purpose under the society. Government must take which the provision under section 12A some definite steps and the people at of the Act has been extended for an large should know as to the steps be­ other period of 12 months totalling to ing taken by the Government against 24 months what would happen after the smugglers and the foreign exch­ that? You may agair. come forward ange racketeers. here for a further extension of this A few days back we learnt that period on the same plea of a serious about 65 residences belonging to peo­ set-back in the anti-smuggling opera­ ple having connections with big busi­ tions. ness houses have been searched and certain amount of money has been Is the Government thinking cf ex­ seized from their lockers. In this mar­ tending the emergency for an indefinite ch certain big business houses are in­ period so that this draconian lnw may volved. A comprehensive list baa not continue for an Indefinite period* as yet been published as to the names (Interruptions) Here 1 am talking ab­ of the persons detained under this Act out this particular amendment to sec­ and particularly under seition ISA oi tion 12A dealing with the anti-social this A c t What are the property* that elements, smugglers who are behind have been attached and what to the bars and not those who had been amount of money that haa fcee* given any scope for going to the court. 193 . W O H MHan <8 SRAVANA 26, lfltt iSAKA) ForHgn Rxdungc 19 f f " ' ' «tc. (Second Afndt.) But MaoMMd from them. Z would also rieoosited this money in foreign banks. W knew from the hon. Minister What are you going to do about it? a* "to b o* they propose to have a •Have you been able to seize any of dwek ao that these persons when they these amounts in those foreign banks? are released after some period—you Actually, we are not in the know of cStafiot extend these sorts of provisions how Government are -ible to check for an Indefinite period—will not in. this kind of foreign exchange racke­ dulge into similar activities in future. teering and smuggling activity. It is Government must take certain mea­ not clear. Even this detention is a sures to stop them from taking up very temporary provision We want darflar activities m future. What are Government to take definite steps on the views of the Government in this these lines. rasped? How will these persons and their properties be dealt with? It is SHRI B. R. SHUKLA (Bahraich): not dear. Smugglers of and racketeers in foreign Also the persons who are not yet exchange acquired fabulous wealth by detained and who have been indulging their anti-social, anti-national and U smuggling activity on the northern clandestine activities and when such aad eastern borders are finding new activities assumed alarming propor­ ways of carrying on these activities. tions, Government was compelled to Tfcere are some organisations and some bring forward a Bill m 1974, the Con­ agencies which are lying low at the servation of Foreign Exchange and moment. As soon as the emergency Prevention of Smuggling Activities ia over, they might again come to the Bill which was passed. Smugglers and surface and carry on their activities racketeers are only a species of the What steps are being taken to rheck wider class of smugglers of goods from H I stop these activities once tor all? foreign countries and also smugglers What steps are being taken to see that of Indian goods to foreign countries. these activities are stopped in other Their activities ha occasion how these people connected ground. Their relations are still be­ with the film industry managed to get hind the bar. It appears somehow or foreign exchange when they were -other, due to the inefficiency of the abroad and how they kept it in their administration long ago, this business foreign bank accounts. First they will was accepted a? a social deal by these send their middle men to make all the groups of people. The main contacts arrangements. Yes, the very that they have built up in this country people were awarded Padnw Shri is, first, with the Middle East and, and they used to be invited for all the secondly, by the border States in the film festivals I have to express my western side of Punjab with Pakistan disappointment that not even one big and, on the north-eastern side, with shot has been touched yet. I would Nepal and, of late, with Bangladesh. E’jpeai to the Ministry to make further investigations in the matter and see I came to know during my investiga- thst proper justice is done to all people tion that smugpling was conducted not without any discrimination. only in goods of this country but also there was some inhuman trade in blue Secondly, I want to say how the films They used to engage poor monopoly houses operate through Indian girls for this inhuman pro­ smugglers. For example, Birla, Jalan, fession and the blue films used to be Bajoria or Modi will never deal direct­ •exported to the Middle East countries ly with a smuggler. They do it by the smugglers. Since these cases through their middle men. When there are under investigation. I do not want was a shortage of nylon yarn, for ins­ to disclose their names in the in­ tance, these big monopoly houses used terests of the country. This is how to have dealings with the smugglers the people of the under-world used to through midd!emen. If at all he is •operate for the last so many years. caught, it is the middle men who will gst the punishment. The officials have I am sorry to say that the officials never tried to find out who are behind o f the Finance Ministry, specially of these middlemen If an enquiry is the Department of Revenue and Ex­ made to find out the real people be­ penditure, are not doing proper justicei hind them, I can say with confidence according to the policy evolved by the that a large number of people belong­ 'Government. I am not suggesting that ing to these big business houses would they are meJcinc discrimination be­ have to be detained. Some of the tween A and B. At the same time, young people are employed by the big there should be a broad outlook. A business houses as Accounts Assistant few days back I heard over the AIR on a salary of Rs. 500 or Rs. 700. When that Shri Biswajeet Chstterjee was put there i* any shortage of any raw behind the bais and kept in the Delhi material, they are asked to deal with Prison for violation of the income-tax the smugglers, and if they are suc­ roles and that he was released the cessful in their deals, they are pro­ J f*t day. It is good that you did that, moted and given some perquisites. Of tftough he wag a noble man by heart course, in some cases they are i<& CWtoi rtlK f c r f r fr tty * ' Casnsnrt Arndt.) Bpl 1 [Shri Prfya Jtanjan Das Muasi) him to dd it avityday because 'tu rn ♦ his face is known to aU, but ha can . by the Government and put behind still do it through soma of his ofltmu the bars or even shot dead. Yet, those He also got the siqjport of a large who patronise them are not touched. number of young people who gave him This is not proper. They should find information for the sake of th* coun­ out the real people behind them and try. punish them. I found in the newspapers the other It is good that Government have day a report that a retired police devised a machinery to deal with officer of Calcutta, Dev Vallab Dhar„ people within the country. They are ex-D.I.G., who was charge-sheeted detained without being sent even to a and removed, has been appointed by court, and I am glad about it. But the Globe Detective Agency which is what is the rtep which they are going giving information to big business to take to deol with those Indian houses about the plans of the Gov­ citizens who often go abroad and keep ernment. I hope that in consultation their accounts in Swiss banks, or with the Home Ministry, he will speculate international market, or take proper steps. purchase some flats binami in West Germany, London or Paris, and come I will be extremely glad if the back again. There are a number of Minister can tell us apart from the these people in this country in the big citizens who ere detained, how many business houses and also in other officials of the income-tax and cus­ circles. I know some of them, but I toms department as also the Minis* cannot give out their names because try have be*n detained, because life would not be safe if they are not there is an opinion that some of detained I know an industrialist them have links with smugglers and whose total capital investment is under hence the anti-smuggling operations Rs. 1 crore, whose three units in West could not be carried through very Bengal have been taken over by Gov­ successfully. ernment and made into six. They go abroad ten tim€s a year. I cannot With these words, I pay my com­ understand why they go abroad so pliments to the Minister and the offi­ often and what they do there, but cers m his department who took they are moving nicely and safely. great risks during the emergency. The Minister belongs to my State and The lives of some of them were at he understands what I say. He is stake, hut with the encouragement aware of the matter. of Parliament I hope they will march ahead, I know him, he does not spare any­ body. I have every faith in hi* cour­ SHRI C. K CHANDRAPPAJT age, because a year and a half ago (Tellicherry): I rise to support this while he was very young in this Minis­ Amendment Bill, and I have no try—I am not talking of his age, he hesitation in saying that the Govern­ is now mature*—he was in Bombay ment has taken some good steps in City and I took him without police in its operation against the smugglers. a taxi. I asked him to introduce him­ I feel that the action of the Govern­ self as a young man who was going to ment against the smugglers has to Set married who would like to pur­ continue. That can be understood chase some very good perfumes etc. only if you understand the magnitude He did so and easily purchased a few of the problem as we are facing things which were found to be foreign today. According to the Govern­ goods. He dealt with them through ment’s statement, they Have already bit officers. But it is not possible for ordered detention in respect of &$1SI * 91 > *RAVAKA i2V 18*8 ($j4Jki) :Epr*^Ia»h

Now, what is happening in the SHRI DXNEN BHATTACHARYYA -world of smugglers? The newspapers (Serampcre): Y », you give it. are lull of reports. I think, the Ministry might have knowledge about SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: It it. In the western coast of this coun­ is in reply to unstarred question No. try, Government has taken very 494 dated 23-8-76. The Government oerious steps to prevent the inflow of say: smugg’ed goods, but the smugglers are not accepting their defeat. They “No property has been confis­ cated ;o far under the Smugglers are now looking for new points of entry, and it has been reported that and Foreign Exchange Manipula­ tor* Forfeiture of Property Act, the smugglers have shifted one of 1976.” their centres, from Dubai to Rangoon. It was reported in the Economic Last time, I th-nk it was 6-7 months Times, in the Indian press. They are ago, when this Minister came with all now sending the smuggled goods to enthusiasm tc introduce this Bill, I Manipur. I ht*ve seen a lot of think all sides of the House welcomed smuggled itwns being sold in the that Bill. Wc all extended our open market; I raised it, and the support to the Minister, we aU MtaUftcr said that it might he some­ wiahed him well to let him *fH f thing fold through government dis- against these smuggler^ let Jtim for* jtfpt/foM. T&m is not so. The M t their properties and l«t Mm a m Cementation of For^gtt A X X H M E 1% « W JOtefmgo MC tfeeoftd <4*1 A m d t.) Bitt [Shri C. 1L Cbandrappan] know? Ax&d only after hi* identifica­ tion was searched by put Govern­ bring th« smugglers' ill-gotten wealth ment, it was found that he was, a to the national exchequer. W iut West German citizen. Tbe Interpol happened in thus case is only this said that he was holding a passport, According to the Government’s own which was foiged and the person in reply to the sunie question, they said whose name be came to India, is «tUl that w 235 cates they have issued aiive in Germany and the Interpol notices for forfeiting the properties told the Government that this smug­ and I do not know if it has been done gler is the leader of an international by the concerned authorities Then smugglers’ gang for whom they were The Competent Authority of Bombay searching But this fellow could land, issued notices m 100 cases. The Com­ in India and could go to a hospital petent Authority of Madras issued and fortunately for us and for the notices ui 98 cases. The Competent world he died. Your Police, your Authority of Delhi issued notices Customs and your Security could do (oniyj in 37 cases’ These are (he nothing I his has happened under notices issued under the Smugglers emergency I hope you will not and Foreign Exchange Manipulators deny this, because, if you have & Forfeiture of Property Act for con­ mind to deny, I can give the nam* of fiscating tiieir property and the list the smuggler. This has happened m of these top smugglers is also given our country in the answer But, why, after issu­ ing the notices the Government failed This is against foreign smugglers. to act even in a single case to forfeit If they come in the guise of tourists^ their property and make a break­ If they come m the guise of intellec­ through in £ghting the smugglers tuals and academicians, what is the who are absconding? step the Government is going to take7 I do not think you have done When we extended our support to anything in that regard You have tills legislation, we expected that the arrested rome people It is good Government w i’l act in that fashion Many more persons are roaming- Otherw se this will be just an eye about and this point should be taken Wash Not that I am accusing the care of The machinery created is in­ Government of inaction Not that I adequate to deal with the situation,. am accusing that the Government is to meet the requirements of the situ­ an connivance with the smugglers ation Mr Jonrdar asked about this Nothing of that kind The Govern­ This Bill seeks to extend this provi­ ment bas in fact failed to act m a sion for another 12 months It i* manner th«s Parliament wanted the natural to ask what will happen after Government to act, this nation wanted these 12 months Are you doing any­ the Government to act, to bring thing in the direction of setting up down the edifice and the threat s e ­ machinery permanently to deal with ated by the smugglers to our country smuggling? We do not know why Government u only thinking of When we extend our support again, dealing wiln this issue on an ad hoc certain questions remain unanswered. and temporary basis. The hon For example, 71 foreign smugglers Minister made a promise in this are arrested, smugglers who are House 'hat the Government is think­ foreigners But again a smuggler ing on the lines of setting up special who is wanted by the Interpol, who courts 1o deal with smugglers and eould come to India, got admitted in to try them. I do not say thajt they ft hospital in Goa died there and his should be given all kinds of Justice body was kepi in the morgue for which is required under normal !**• A n te months. For whom 1 do not X am not demanding titmt. You can 105 Conwrtwtioft o/ SRAVANA 28, IBM iSA K A ) Foreign Exchange 206 etc. (Second AnufC.) BtU try them under the provision of buy goods which are not Indian special courts. You can hang them goods. These very non-Indian goods I f yibu want I do not oppose it. We are being soid there under that big w ill lend you all otir support. But banner which you are putting up. 'what #4 are seying is this. Why do you want 12 months, in an ad hoc It is a shame. This happens in all manner? Again the Minister will the big cities in this country. You tome and ask for another 12 months can find this cut if you just go there extension. That is not the way to as a buyer. If you want to creav* deal with the problem. At what that atmosphere that the people of stage is this proposal now, of setting this country wil] not buy these up special court 3 with special powers, things, well, you should make such to try and punfoh smugglers4 This an arrangement that you should en­ Jf my question. The Director of sure that the smuggled goods are not Revenue Intelligence, Mr. Sriniva- coming in the cpen market. The sam, said in Calicut which is in my smugglers will not have that audacity State, on 1st of July, that the con- to se'l these things in pubic in aideration of setting up a special definance of all laws of the l»nd court was in an advanced stage. Advanced rtagc may be like ad­ I think the Government has to im­ vanced stage of pregnancy or some* plement this legislation with a sense thing like that, I do not know. I of urgency and with more serious­ would like to know from the Minister ness. Then only the desired results as to when this child is going to be will be there. These are some of delivered. These ad hoc measures the points whic>» I want to bring to w ill not help the situation. Of course, the notice cf this House and the h'-n. we arc supporting now because you Minister. I hope m all fairness the will say that you are helpless. But Min.stcr while replying to tnw this is not a foolproof way in which dcba»e will enbghten us on these you can deal with such a serious problems which we have raised. I problem. support this amendment.

Now, regarding smuggled goods SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- available m the country, Mr. Das kil): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I fully sup­ Mnnsj said Pbout this I think that port this Bill of the hon. Minister and they are taking a light view of the I take this opportunity to congratulate matter If you really want to put him and all those dedicated officer* of down smuggling you should get the his Ministry who, by and large, have cooperation c? the people. The DA VP done a good part of their job to check the smuggling and foreign exchange is putting up an advertisement: Be racket. •n Indian; buy Indian goods. 1 think the money for that Department is Shri Bhattacharyya and his friends being spent by the Ministry of Reve­ axe always critical about the emer­ nue and Finanre. Under that very gency and they were asking about the board or hoarding smuggled goods gains made out of it I hope that are being rold, not through the co­ they will agree with me that the operative societies. In Calcutta enconomic condition of this country streets various smuggled goods are had improved. I do not want to go available, things like cigarettes into the details of the internal situa­ which you i.nd I would like to smoke, tion or what is happening in other a good blade that we may like to parts of the country. It is very dear buy, and so on. We are being temp­ that after this Bill came into opera­ ted* And you , are putting up an tion, Government could d u d not •dNrtfjwawK there saying; don't only thf smuggling activities but also 2017 •QtafartK'tio* of Fereign, AUGUST 17, 1876 Xxehaitfft ate. (Second 90S A m d t) B ill (Shri Vayalax Ravi] made a queiy who asked you to pur* chase the Mud? What a pity! the circulation of the black money and came on a two-week leave and spent thereby they could contain the infla­ moat of his tuna in going to tks Re­ tion This is the only country which serve Bank and meeting the oAeass could control the inflation to a minus over there I want to know, is it a point Many Members have spoken crime for person who had w itri about the different aspects and so 1 abroad and put his foreign exchange do not want to go into them in earnings in India in dollars to purchase detail Mr Banerjee will agree with a p’ot of land’ Later on, he waa me here that Shri Mukherjee has done asked submit a pre-dated application a good job of it Take the foreign re and granted permission on paper and mittances from the people who are allowed to sail the land Of course, abroad Three years ago the foreign he could sell the land He asked in® remittances* were only Rs 330 crores a question, *130 you want me to In­ Now, if I am right m February this vest more money m India " This is a year it has gone upto Rs 1200 crores classic example of harassment It is because of the incentives offered to people working abroad They have Now, Sir, people come to India on been able to remit here their foieign leave after two to three years of stay exchange earnings. The money from abroad They come with ten to twen­ abroad is more than double because of ty saris for their relations You know this concession This is the contnbu as to how much they are harassed by tion of this BiUL The remittances the customs authorities Sir, a direct from abroad have now gone up I Air India flight was Introduced from would like to draw the attention of thr Abu Dhabi to Madras for the conveni Minister to other points I want to ence of Keralites and others working know whether he has studied the prob abroad As soon as this flight touched lems of the people staying abroad or the Madras airport the customs he has made any evaluation or ana­ authorities pounced upon the9e pas* lysis of it To whom have you given sengers like tigers I say that you be those concessions m the matter of re­ strict but why can’t >ou have confi mittances from abroad’ Is it for the dence in the people who come after benefit of the employee working two to three years with twenty saris* abroad or to the nurses and others’ Why can’t you have a reasonable atti Can they bring such a huge amount of tude in the matter That flight has money from abroad’ It is onlv some since been cancelled ' rich people who live abroad who can do this But when you are giving Sir I suggest that you may Ax some Incentives and concessions have vou slab system for the salaried people taken into account the condition of the working abroad namely, if they send salaried people living abroad and so much of amount thev will be given sending part of the*r salary of this so much of concession If a man country I think you have not made works abroad and sends a good amount a study of the problems of the fixed of his salary to India In foreign ex salary people working abroad No In change why don’t you fix a s’ab system centive has been given to such people and allow him to bnng something for his relations I appeal to you to sider the problems of the fixed income | Sir I happened to meet a gentle­ group working abroad If you have man from Kuwait recently He told a talk with them you will know their : me that he had purchased a plot of problems land measuring about 10 cents in Bangalore and wanted to dispose it off He could not do so aa the Reserve The next point I would like to make Bank objected to it He wrote to the is about Hie Impounding of partpon* Reserve Bank and the Reserved Bank I fully support this provision. In j &q comwrvaWm d SRAVANA 28, 1898 ( SAKA) Foreign Exchange 210 etc. (Second Amdt.) Bill BUI the detention power has been or who the authority was which took ■ jgiven to certain important people, that decision against him in this «yen upto the level of Joint Secretary. matter.

Then Shri Das Munsi was speaking Again I would make an appeal to about films and smuggled goods. Sim the Minister. Do not treat all people Chandrappan also made a mention of staying abroad as smugglers. Do not something in that regard. There is an .go on that presumption. Yes, check instance in Kerala where one man them and And out. But unfortunately, escaped prosecution—I do not want to in some cases injustice has been done. mention his name. Shri Bhattacharya I know of some cases. I can say this may be interested because he is a big before the Minister. I do not want to financier of bis party. The party is go into details. When impounding tbe called Popular Automobiles. By passport of a person living abroad, how making a declaration ol Rs. 80 lakhs do you re-examine the case? who is of black money, they escaped prosecu­ the appellate authority? Here if you tion. I am only sorry to say that detain somebody, there is an Advisory your department could not make any Board to examine that case and exa­ check. mine the whole issue. But when you ■are impounding the passport ot a per­ SHRI DiNEN BHATTACHARYA son, what is the machinery you have (Serampore). Your Government also to re-examine the whole issue? did it. I can cite an example. The man produced all evidence. He had made SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: I was going remittances through the Canara Bank, to say that. The Kerala Government through the Indian Overseas Bank. All did it. I do not know whether they tbe accounts of the different amounts smuggled him in or not. This party have been produced. His patriotism had been advertising the availability was reported °n by the ambassador of foreign automobile parts. I had himself. I do not want to go into appeared in The Hindu in all the the details. But because of some English newspapers: ‘Popular Automo­ personal reasons, because some-body biles— available foreign car spa«* had written ‘this man is a smuggler', parts’. How is it coming? Have you his passport was impounded. Tnis given them an import licence? Or Is is not the way to do it. The it smuggled in? Of course, earlier evidence has been produced before there was smuggling. Recently the you. But without reason, some incri­ Kerala Government’s Economic affairs minating statement was made by a department made a search and they Deputy Secretary sitting in an embas­ found on big packets “Made in Ger­ sy abroad, who was prejudiced against many’. ‘Made in England’, ‘Made in him, and the passport was impounded- America' everywhere. Later they This, I think, is not justified. I maice found that all this was made in their an appeal to the Minister to consider factory itself. Of course, they were tie establishment of some kind of smuggling these earlier. But you appellate authority to examine such allowed them to cheat the people and cases on appeal in regard to impound­ you allowed these crooks to escape pro­ ing of passport, whether it is genuine secution by giving them a chance to or whether it has been done out of declare an amount of black money to personal prejudice. In this case I the tune of Rs. 80 lakhs Shri Bhatta­ know it was done on merely personal charya and his party may be very 'prejudice. A$ I said, the patriotism angry for this. He is the sole financier of tbM man has been exported by the of Ms party in Kerala ail the time. ambassador himself. Unfortunately, you could not take a decision. I do SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA : not know whether you had the power who? a n Conservation of Foreign A UG UST 17, 1976 Exchange tie, (Second yt2t A tim * a m -' ■ v, ■■■ SHRI VAYALAR RAVI; Please ask today. The hon. Minister must look, atiri Namboodiripad. into this matter also. Ttt citel ant* example, he can take up one or two* SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: cases and try to put them behind the I am interested so that I may get bars along with Haji Mastan and wome money. others. They are equally criminals. Millions of people working outside are SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: I am asking sending money to the country out when these advertisements have been of their meagre salaries. Remittance* appearing that they have spare parts from abroad had gone up to Rs. 1500 o f foreign cars and so on, how has it erores. The grievances of such people- come about? who send their meagre salaries to our country should be considered. The- Then Shri Das Munsi spoke about exploiiers and foreign exchange racke­ films. I have seen a photograph of a teers should be put behind bars. famous film producer touching the feet When passports are impounded there- of Haji Mastan. He was a film pro­ should be an appellate authority to ducer and actor once upon a time. He examine the whole case. With these is still claiming to be partriotic (Inter­ words, I fully support the Bill ...... ruption). i want to know how when one fine morning Haji Mas tan went w .f II«IT ( T'T ) into jail all this chain has been broken, how all this chain of black money has been broken. What is the expla­ «rr fr> 5: wwfe *rsi «nv*reT nation given about this photograph Ul'fT TfaFK * q * s? OTSftVTvtst : showing his touching the feet of Haji Mastan? What action has been taken? “ There would be serious set back Have you made a search on that? to the anti-smuggling operations if Have you found out what are the links the provisions had been allowed to that these people have? Have you made lapse and hence the President pro­ any kind of examination of this mulgated on he 16th June, 1976, the matter? You are arresting smugglers Conservation of Foreign Exchange and foreign exchange racketeers. We and Prevention of Smuggling Acti- are saving money through the black ties Ordinance" door but delivering it through the front door. Have you taken action against persons who indulge in under­ rf*S> %'J 15 H’.*.. invoicing and over-invoicing and are 19/6 ».t* P-% A srarp : ’T* increasing their Swiss bank account? irr-rr *jnT | nW’T faffr Have you ever arrested any exporter or businessmen on this account? The srnrr f u ssfrc srnr ■aflW businessmen are now happy; they have | fa f ^ r started praising the 20-point pro­ m w n s t arriTTi fa gramme; it is just hypocrisy. They want to exploit the name of the pro­ 11

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[«fr * * vnr ] slakened. She said: '«^«r lir .* * oriinr i” —*rr fffiR tfsr w ftw r *raT If this Bill waa not there, if this power r^ rr i «r*rtr was not there with the Government, 1 «n3ft *ftr wrfifr far wift am sure the bigger smugglers would w x f t «?*r $ f t, W f a * * * w « p have dectated their own terms and it would not have been possible to put *> tfk it* *rc % far* ¥fnrr v f t i them behind the bars. At that time w wnrrr $ f a if aft «nr?ft wrx it was necessary, and the life of the i * vt mfcr *> wfr^ * tor Bill which is being extended should be supported by all of us, SOT % SPT^ Sflff «t^T I Ft IPPC fe p \$t wn^sr % fr?r tffcfr A question which has been raised is whether any permanent statute js t?r> w 8w5p % f^ r necessary It may not be necessary Tsr i $ *r* * f f 1 believe that human nature cnanget v> tw j* i- f?r^ S * $ v n ^ t But the nature of a person, who has been earning fabulous amounts out of t | i Vi-ftn w r *prx«r smuggling, might change but it chan­ | i t t % fax ges after he or she was hammered fu %*rtor*qr*V * v s * * \ projperly

v r &cm ^ | i Ih this case, it was asked, for in stance, why not burn the smuggled goods I am one of those who believes 17 his. in burning cigarettes Give me any amount of cigarettes, even foreign cigarettes I will burn them before [Shri Vasant Sathe in the Chatr.\ the next day But the point is that the ordinary shop-keepers who deal m smuggled goods like blades and scentc SHRI S M. BANERJEE ()- are not harming the country at all Mr Chairman, Sir, I rise to support They are not going to harm our con­ the Bill and pay my warm compliment ception of swadeshi, the swadesht to my hen. friend, Shri P K Mukher andolan or the swadesht way of life jee ahd wme of the officers who have What is harming us is the amount of really worked hard and established gold which is going out of this coun that theie are people m this country try Who are doing this7 It is not whose integrity cannot be challenged. the shopkeepers who are selling the Recently, when I went to Bombay I goods, but the big smugglers, v ho have had a talk with some of my friends a team of experts at their command and I was surprised to see that tne who do it m connivance with some face of Shri Mukherjee, which is high officials Even though some of apparently a lovable face, has become them have been put behind the bar> a terror to the smuggler* He has their partners are still outside The really established that smuggling can hon Minister should try his bes* t > be checkiKl by taking strong action. see that those partners are also put in jail I know the smugglers die very My hon. friend, Shn M C Daga. hard because they have an interna quoted the speech of the Prime Minis­ tional wing. ter at Red Fort I do not know what its connection with this Bill is The The other day some people- wer Prime Minister was speaking about caught from Vikram HoteL The hon emergency and saying that it may be Minister said that they we*e anttigglers . Tomtrpfltfdm of 8BAVAHA 26, MW iBAKAj Foreion I x d a w 2 1&' «tc. (Second Amdt.) Bill All of than « m foreigners and they naturally they cannot possibly deny have murdered some people. Shri Om that obligation. How to arrest this Mehta in hie reply said that they were tendency? It is a very difficult job.’ from France and that they belong to One of the officers, Shri Srivastava, some international ring of smugglers, Director of Revenue Intelligence, put who are operating in this country. It his hand on the Bajorias and otner is difficult to catch them unless such houses, but ultimately he got the powers are given to the officers. Of setback of his life- So, if you cannot course, they have to use them judici­ completely eliminate this under-in­ ously. voicing and over-invoicing, at least try to minimise it in the matter of My hon. friend, Shri Chandrappan. jute and other goods. So, these said that the smugglers have shifted people are there who are doing it their operation from Dubai to Ran­ regularly, and that amounts to the goon. Previously, Dubai was smug­ worst type of smuggling. A smuggler glers’ paradise. Mow they have shift­ smuggles a particle article, but these ed to Rangoon and they are sending people are actually taking away the some goods through our borders. So, money of this country and conserving our border areas should be protected. it in foreign banks for their own interest and for supporting some of But the question in which w e are more interested in the things which these people who are a menace to are being taken out of this country. our society. Has the value of the goods smuggled out of this country minimised? The Then, the question is whether we figures show that the amount of goods have been able to put our hand on smuggled out of this country m the various accounts in the Swiss 1973-74 was much more than what it banks or not. We want to know is today. That means it has been whether this is possible or not, and checked, and for that I wish to congra­ if possible, what we have done. tulate the hon. Minister once again. I had a discussion with the hon. Minister and I do not wish to men­ Then there is under-invoicing and tion the name, but I was surprised over-invoicing. I fully agree with to know that a warrant has now been Shri Vayalar Ravi and Shri Chandra­ issued against a person who got one ppan when they say that this should of the worst type of smugglers arrest­ be checked. I do not impute any ed risking his life and got a reward motives, but all the big business houses of Rs. 95,000 for that. This, will dis­ which are flourishing in '.he various courage persons. If that man has done industries especially in the jute something wrong, he should be hang­ industry, are actually invloved in ed, but persons who get smugjlers this under-invoicing and over-invoic­ arrested risking their lives, property ing. and they ate conserving and business should be properly help­ foreign exchange in the Swiss ed and encouraged. and other banks, and we cannot put our hands on their accounts. I have Then I come to smuggling of jewel­ information with me, I do not want lery from this country. The tendency to divulge it, that they are helping now is to smuggle the costliest jewel­ some of the sons of the hig officers lery belonging to the old Rajas and who are being educated abroad They Maharajas, Rajmatas and Maharanis are paying them money regularly, and of course the Rajkuma-is, be­ and that is the attraction for which cause in India nobody can possibly they are gaining favours from the purchase them. 1 am told, 1 do not officers. I know that the officers are know whether it is correct, that toe- generally very good and honest, but official valuation of a particular you know we have our soft corner necklace was Rs. 185 lakhs. I am ye*- for our sons and daughters, and to see it and if I see it, my eyes mar 219 ConwrtMrtton of AUGUST XSAKA) ‘^refr* «««***#?' «tc. (Second Arndt.) SfU [Shri S. M. Banarjee] let them be purchased by the 'people who went them. What is the karm be dazzled and I may die, but the in that? But they should be sold in ouisticn is that such things can be open market In a proper manner. In purchased by whom? Only by the Bombay, I have *een, all these things Arab countries. So all efforts are are available. But people cannot now being directed to smuggle possibly distinguish whether a thing jewellery to the Arab countries be­ is fake or real. Three-in-one is sold cause they are able to purchase them. there, and people purchase thinking There is no market for thern in the that it must be a Sony Set or an USA now, and they will also ultimate­ Akai Set; they cannot show these to ly sell them only to the Arab coun­ others, and when they come back, tries, because they are the persons they find that it is only a case and who are enarmoured of these things there is nothing inside. That is why like big diamonds etc. That should also I suggest that the smuggled or con­ be checked 1 would also suggest to the fiscated goods should be sold in open hon. Minister that whatever jewellery market. has been seized from the big Mahara­ jas etc. should go to the National My hon. friend has said something Museum and if these Maharajs etc. are about customs. I fully agree that prepared to donate them to the Natio­ people should be allowed to bring nal Museum, thev should be accepted. something for their own family mem­ They should not be arrested for this. bers I was present the other day, Suppose a particular Maharani or anrf I can sav with confidence and Rajmata says, ‘Do not put me in jail; with all conviction lhat the customs take awa> all the jewelleiy anu keep officers in Delh1 and other places are them in the museum or treasure', we not so bad; if you bring a bottle of should agree. I know, in Moscow, wine or whisky or some cigarettes or there is a National Treasure where nylon sarees for your wife, thev do all i.uch things belonging to the Crar not bother about these things I have period are kept and they are still also seen the amount of things that shown to people. Instead of the some people bring—the entire excess- thing going through smuggling to weight consists of foreign goods. The Arab countries, let them remain in customs officers do not mind if rom®- the national treasure That is my bodv brings a bottle of ‘Intimate* for suggestion, and I hope that the Minis­ his wife or beloved If instruction** ter will consider this. are issued to the customs not to be harsh to the people, then every per­ son who goes out will bring only Then, I want to say something foreign goods Whv do we lose About selling of the smuggled goods. hockey and other matches’ When our If the smuggled goods are here, then players po. thev onlv go round to sep they should be sold in a proper man­ what possibly thev can take from ner I am tcld that there is a shop there they are not interested ip the in Nehru Market or somewhere which game, be it football or hockey I am is far off from this place, where not imputing motives to anv one. But these goods are sold. They should it is a fact that they bring so many be sold in the Central Government things Last time when thev won. Employees* Cooperative Stores or in they were let off by the nustoms the Super Market. One Wilkinson Btif when th*»v lose prt'irallv thev blade will easily come for a month. are caught. 1 must admire the n-orV* The cigarettes are also cheaper I being done by the customs officers do not encourage these things, but I It is a verv difficult Job. But one do not mind these smuggled goods thing, I woftld like to point out being purchased by our people The When the suit-case* belonging to « smuggled goods should not be burnt; l?dv are wrched, it should rot h*» Shat will only be a herioic action; done openly. It looks bad. People SifatV <&n*erp«iiQn o f t SRAVANA 18Sd tSAKA) Tortiffti txchangt- 2 3 * " etc. (Second Amdt.) Bill

from the gstllery are also watching rr iifirrrfttff fort the whole thing. Somebody takes out a brassier and a«k* whether it is ift favr w t | 1 ttrrt English or Indian. Somebody js show­ ? f a aft Jfffr v t m i i t o m ing a blouse and you ask Is it Indian a fi **?*&?. mx $ -or foreign?1 This way ladies are put "to shame. After all they have come # s t-r r ft * t 0 f a * ^ fj to India. They are not foreign ladies. *rrT*ftfoF7, a^ry, ^nr^T sTfc They are all Indians. Treat them well. I f you want to search somewhere, let tfr srr% f 3 T*t r

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~ ~ ...~ nadu he was the rightfiand man· of •l1;T P;;(1 Ji~1 f'~~ l·. :.· "!'' z;fr<:f,,. . ~1Cfi"i'l' Cf' " ·the · th~n Chief Minister " of.1' Mddras ~~ 'it ~ ~1<: ~r<: ~ ·~ ·T* rr ~r<1 · and the supf.iorter of then Law Mini'i- ter, Shri Madhavan. At the. time .f"l';rl!ir ~;r:.fi· q-rcr. ~"t~ q-.sf'l'ra-. aCfi q'~'l' ~~· 1 . they w~~e ruJ]ng it is they 7 CfrnsenwHoit of Foreign AUGUST 17, g*cka*0**te. as* Amdt,) m tShri K- Mayathevar] lifted? They wiU-~once released— once again income »«tti-miUtajaenu smuggler in Tamilnadu. He was like Those JeHowi intpite of Jureiqg oom« « mfflkmnaim, • powerful man like mitted national offence and anti­ Mastaa and Eakhia. It is shameful social offenses are treated as very that our Government has not 'Mea Mg people in the society even new* able to arrest this person and put him We muse amend the entire law behind the bars. Why? permanently. It is tio use extending it merely by 12 months. We must We are having the Extradition have a special law, special courts a^xi Law. That is applicable to all coun­ provide special punishment to thesa tries uniformly, be St USSR, USA, offenders. I would like to suggest, if Britain or France. Why were we not necessary introduce a new aub* able to extradite Shri Yalta under section to Section 90S 1PC to provide the Extradition Law? death sentence for the offence of smuggling. Shri Yawn could have been extra­ dited under the Extradition Law Mr. Chairman, Sir, these smugglers applicable to all the countries. lie who are at present behind the bars was in Singapore sometime back, he are being jtiven the son-in-law's was in Bangk >k later on ana in tlw treatment in the jail. I am told th?y east-arfiatic countries I am sorry to are provided with all the facili'ies say that he caine into India as well except giving them ladies, as left India without the knowledge of the Government Sir, we will AN HON. MEMBER: They are have to arrest many such people so allowed to go to their wives. as to annihilate the entire smuggling activity. Unfortunately, the Govern­ SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR* Sir, the ment of India is still treating tbis people exoect more stern action smuggling offence as an economic against these people. Why are you offence. I have pleaded three to four allowing them access to all the*? times on the Floor at the House for privileges. I plead that these people treating tbij offence as a ‘pucca’ cri­ should be treated as part of the minal offence. ordinary criminals inside the jail. Then only tney will feel sorry for Sir, these smugglers are responsi­ their offences and when they corns ble for inflation and rise in prices. out, will rectify themselves and They are not only stabbing the econo­ completely change their mode of my of the country but also they are life. They are not political offon- stabbing at the back of the poor ders, they are not political leader a, masses of Indio. We must introduce to be given fperial privileges inside a special law to give punishment to jail. They are pucca offenders under such people There should be a certain provisions a t law, not cnJy provision for a minimum of ten of customs but of foreign ’ exchange years* sentence for this offence. As Hereafter at least they should be present under Customs Act and treated as onfiiuuy criminals under lYxreign Exchange Act we are only 2FC an.1 some f tier trtKpwffg under giving them two years imprison­ the law of the land. ment plus a fine of Rs. 2,000/-. This is not sufficient. I plead for a change 2 am from Tamil Nadu. The hon. in the law. Minister knows it

Further, Sir, I would like to know AN HOW. MEMBER: A»d AS3MK. what are you going to do with these SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR tttank smugglers after the Emergency is * * the complin***. Las* yeai C(m m w tio n o t SRAVANAxm (.8AKA) Foreign E*cfc**fle *30 etc. (Second Amdt.) Bitt M m m o d N M of our party brought to We are happy with watever action tbo notice of Government in Rajya has been taken by Government against Sabha that th« ex-Chkf Minister, Shri smuggling activities. We are happy Xarunanldhi, a&d the then Law Min­ to support it and welcome it and we ister, flbri Madhavan, were reliably will support you in future also if you aa*d to have deposited large amounta take much more serious, much mom of money in foreign banka. Now alter effective, action against these people the appointment of the Inquiry Com- and try to confiscate the properties of minion, the Government of India have these smugglers without consideration dug out to many erores on account of of any sympathy for them because black money, unaccounted money, re* they are not ordinary offenders, they ceived by them by war o t corruption are offenders at the national level, they or misuse of power on the pretext of are not only economic offenders, they executing to many plan* for the public. are offenders whose offences are kil­ Stitt larger amounts remain in their ling the entire Indian economy. With names or in their ben ami name#—es­ this plea, I conclude my speech and pecially these two Minister*. This may thank the hon. Chairman for giving also be checked by the Government of me this opportunity. India. SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara): So What are the provisions we are much has been said on this Conserva­ having? What are the laws we are tion of Foreign Exchange and Preven­ having flow to bring back all the olack tion of Smuggling Activities (Second money or earned money or unearned Amendment) Bill under consideration money deposited by our smugglers in that it is very difficult to add more. I foreign banks? Our laws are even think the root cause of smuggling not sow sttent on this. Some friends were only in our country, but in the world tiappy to note that the inflow of money at large is—in spite of my own secular s larger now as a result of the emer­ outlook, I have to say this that Islam gency and steps taken thereafter. does not forbid snuggling. Islam is a But that inflow is not sufficient. Still 10 many erores are allowed to be de­ religion which does not forbid smugg­ posited in foreign banks. Under these ling just as they forbid eating pork. circumstances, the Government of India must at least take effective steps MB- CHAIRMAN: Which religion o bring back all the money deposited forbids smuggling? >y our smugglers in foreign banks in heir names or in fraudulent benaxni tames. SHRI B. V. NAIK: I hope the Chair will tolerate a compliment being paid. Then what are the measures taken Before economic nation-states came, to confiscate their property? Notices there was religion and there were few have been issued against some. Issu­ inhibitions. In the history of England ing notices is not enough. You must there was a time when, particularly immediately take action to forfeit all in the 15th and 16th centuries, smug­ the properties of these people. It is gling was there very much. Later on high time you implemented that kind when nation-states came in, they put of law. The actions taken at present tariff barriers and thereafter it become are not sufficient and adequate. We antinational. But in regard to Ulam are not happy. We are ready to sup­ as a whole they believe in economic port you to the fullest extent You go internationalism, believing in interest forward with still more speed. That which is preceding even Marxist inter­ is what wo expect, the people of pretation of religion or economica, Tamil Nadu expect, the whole Indian they are cutting down all the interest; people, 40 erores of them, except of there is permission; it is not a forbid­ Gk>v«trn»eut—go forward RtfPe gpetfi' den act because Islam la both a Stale religion as well as religion. I am not 23* CoiwtHxtHon tf Foreign htJCKfct V, 1M*- 8 teli»e try of External Affairs and ,11 I,«osiM Muslim countries in tbe Arab world, say so, on a bilateral basis initia­ In Dubhai, etc. I hope I have been tives particularly with our tiftes able to carry conviction. In Kuwait countries in the middieast by our fooa- and middle-eastern countries exporting wiU, which we enjoy might pay divi­ of1 smuggled goods is carried on as an dends. I am not saying that snug*: open trade. Collection of fundB is glers who continue to be allegedly, really big business in those countries, fairly influential in many parts of the collection of funds, not against re­ world and elsewhese are not influen­ ceipts, but parking of their vehicles, tial in those countries, tf the their ships, their trawlers, their suggestion is credible to tbs hon., mechanised boats and all those things Minister—this expression does nq4 are done under the jurisdiction of tbe reveal it—we can ask the other non- sheikh and is legal, there is nothing aligned countries through diplomatic illegal. channel so that those countries impose, immediately law in their respective SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA jurisdiction against the operation ot What are you saying? What is your those smugglers in respect of those proposition? friendly countries, wherever tiiere to objection. So, from Dubai, if Pakistan does not object to the smuggling, they SHRI B. V NAIK- The collection is can carry on the smuggling opera­ an open collection Small people tions But if there is a smuggler in invest in it. In other words, the root Dubai and India objects to the of our smuggling is not m this coun­ smuggling, the State law must come try but it is m some of those countries m This is my suggestion and it may where it is permitted be examined

MR. CHAIRMAN- Mr. Naik is My colleague Shri Maya Thevar always original. said, something must be done about foreign banks considering the SHRi B. V. NAIK In the circum­ sovereignty of these countries, parti­ stances, if you can bear with that, the cularly Switzerland and others, it solution for a permanent cure to Ihis would be a difficult proposition. But malady should lie, as suggested by like the voluntary disclosure scheme Mr. Chandrappan, m changing the con­ for tax dodgers, does the ministry sumer habits in the Calcutta streets, have any plan—Stage II—for these Bombay streets, port areas and towrs. smugglers also7 Once tfye person If you want to put a stop to opium who has been locked up behind the trade, stop opium consumption; if you bars comes to know that there is no want to put a stop to some other con­ escape from it, if you keep the door sumption of luxury goods, stop that open to the smuggler who has been consumption. But more important, if detained under COFEPOSA that in you want to tackle it realistically and ease he declares in writing, *1 am at a political level, you should do this. holding accounts in such and such But tilings suggested by Chandrappan foreign banks; these sire the deposit we*e suggested centuries ago by re­ numbers and these ere the specific formers. But it has not been possible. branches, etc”, if he dicloses all such We tried prohibition, it had not suc­ information which he alone can dis­ ceeded. Therefore, the solution would close, will it be worth-while to have be to tackle it at the root, that is. m a scheme whereunder a person who the Arab world, particulaxy those admits the guilt, as in the ease of countries known for smuggling will non-payment of taxes, might be in a have to be tseklefl at a diplomatic position to be in the good books ot $2$ CcNPfWrifcift 5RAVANA 94 1868 (SAKA) Foreign txchang* 234 < ' etc. (Sceond Amdt.) Bill the gftvernJgtest* aadyou will b* also SHRI B. V. NAIK: What I have able teca&edk the foneign exchange stated now is for the purpose of he ha* aeeusnutatad through netanous record. The confiscation of property meaagT Otherwise, vhat sovereignty that has been done so far is do we have over Swiss Banks? It is inadequate. Since I come from a prevailing ■ becaAee we cannot do any­ constituency, which is in the West thing. Shu*- w e limitations of Coast, there are some inhabitants national sovereignty. You can impose there who nr* smugglers. According heavy penalty, confiscation of goods, to my information, which is based etc., but does the ministry have such on the reply given by the hon. a plan lor these people also? Minister in reply to a question, in Karnataka some properties belongs MR. CHAIRMAN: The same pro­ ing to the smugglers have been cedure which you suggested for Dubai attached by the District Magistrates I do not know under which Act. can be adopted here also. Why have different standards? There are some such instances. I want the hon. Minister to enlighten us on this point iSHHI B. V. NAIK: If I am carry­ ing on smuggling from Dubai, a port, my actions are plainly known. But Yesterday when I was talking if I** go and deposit 100 dollars in about the MISA I expressed the hope a Swiss Bank, there is no way of that we would like to see the day knowing whether we are MPs,** or when it is outside the statute book smugglers. Since there is difficulty of this country. I am sure many of identification, I would suggest that hon. Members will join me in that the voluntary disclosure scheme sentiment. But when it comes to which has been adopted in regard COFEPOSA, since it deals with anti­ to tax dodgers may be tried here social elements, the Minister has also. received full-throated and almost unanimous support from all sections MR. CKAQltyAN: Your remark of the House and I would say that is not called for and it wil be it should And a permanent place in deleted from the records, in respect the Statute Book of this country. 1 of the Cfeair. You can include your­ am making this suggestion after self. due deliberation and continuous observation. I join the sentiments of the rest of the Members and I SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur) repeat that it should find a perma­ To preserve the dignity of the House, nent place in the statute book. his name also should not be included. SHRI K LAKKAPPA (Tumkur): SHRI B. V. NAIK: Having Mr. Chairman, while supporting the understood the gravity of the situa­ Bill, I would like to say that the tion, I would not labour that point. Statement of Objects and Reasons If you go through the entire con­ for this Bin says: struction, you will see that there was absolutely no intention to offend the dignity of th$ Chair. “The special provisions for dealing with emergency contained in section 12A of the Conservation MR. CHAQjAEAN: I know you of Foreign Exchange and Preven­ did not do it deliberately, but that tion of Smuggling Acuities Apt; should not find a place' even in 1 1974 have proved helpful in dealing lighter vlen. effectively with persons engaged

•’ Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 235 Conservation of SRAVANA 26, 1898 (SAKA) FQreign Exchange etc. (Second Amdt.) Bill [Shri K. Lakappa] the morn~ng. Whether they have been going out on their traditional in smuggling and foreign exchange business or pleasure or a judicious racketeering who, owing to their combination of both has not been large resources and influence, have fully established.. But it is beyond been posing a serious threat to the doubt that they could not have economy, and thereby to the embarked on their nocturnal prowl security of the nation." had they been what they claim to be: heart patients." Therefore, we have to extend our support to this measure. On the pretext of heart ailment, the detenus have been having virtually Enougih has been said regarding the all freedom to move about the city smuggling activities and the leakage and meet people who are engaged in of foreign exchange. It is the need sm·uggiing activities, those who are of the hour to consolidate the >;ains defending and backing them. of emergency and act more vigilantly to conserve our foreign exchange to "It is against this background prevent the smuggling activities in that the Chief Minister of Maha- the country. rashtra, Mr. S. B. Chavan, has or- dered that all COFEPOSA detenus " under treatment at St. George's So far as the detenus under-- Hospital be transferred to J. J. COFEPOSA are concerned, the people Hospital." specially in Bombay are wondering whether they are really in prison or in paradise. Even though Parlia- I am not criticising the Chief Minister ment has passed all sorts of laws to of Maharashtra, but why should such deal with them effectively, I wonder lenient treatment be meted out to why they are being given such_good them? The people of this country be- treatment be it the Central Govern- gin to feel that the smugglers are ment or the State Government. There respected b:y such treatment. I know was a report in the Times of India that you aie doing very good work, recently which reads: but please give good treatment to the poor people, give them food, "The incidence of coronary shelter and clothing, but not to these aiVnents seems to be exceptional people who should be treated reerci- high among the COFEPOSA detenus, lessly. judging by the relatively large numbers in which they have been Recently the hon. Minister stated at admittect to the prison ward of the the Calcutta airport that smuggling St. George's Hospital in Bombay to our neighbouring countries is on the since the crackdown on the alleged increase. Though special arrangements smugglers and racketeers in foreign have been ·made and .a c.ollectorate has exchange. By itself, this would been established, still the smuggling ac- have interested only those involved tivities are rampant in these areas. in advanced medical_ research, but There are certain people in deten- public interest, indeed concern, has tion who are operating with the con- of late been aroused, and for good nivance of big people who are defend- reason, because many of the detenus ing them. It may be that some of supposed to have been laid up with them are lawyers or belong to oig serious heart trouble have been seen business houses. merrily moving around the city; some have, in fact, been caught sneaking back into their hospital- MR. CHAIRMAN: He may con- cum~prjson in the wee hours of tinue day after tomorrow. *3 7 B AX!. lUtport AVG UST 17, 1076 238

BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE Sixty-third Report of the Business Advisory Committee. Sw t y -thihd Repost IS hr*.

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND The Lofc Sabha then adjourned till HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY Eleven o f the Clock on Thursday AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU August 19, 1976/Sravona 28, 1898 RAMAIAH): I beg to present the (Saha).

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