Ei ~hf 'b Series, Vol. XVI No. 36 Thursday, April 17, 1986 _-- Cbaitra 27; 19(iS (Salta)
LOK SABRA DEBATES (English Version)
Fifth Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
(Vol. XVI contains Nos. 31 to 40)
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No. 36, Thursd.1Y, April 17, 1986jChaitra 27, 1908 (Saka)
COLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions: *Starred Question~ Nos. 720 to 723, 729, 730 1-34 and 732
"" ritten An' wers to Questions: Starred Questions Nos. 724 to 728 and 733 34-41 to 739
Unstarred Questions Nos. 6892 to 6946, 6948 to 41-208 7078 and 7080 to 709-;
Re-Question of Privilege Against 211-225 Syed ShahabuddlD, M.P ... for his derogatory remarks against Shri Anf Mohd. Khan, M.P. as reported In the Hindustan Times of 4.3.1986 ......
Papers Laid on the Table 226-229 349-350
F~tjmate, Committee 229-230
Thirty-First Report and Minutes-Presented
COIllJ11ittee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled 230 Tubes
Ninth Report-Presented
Ejection to Committee 230-231
Central Advisory Board of Education
Ma~ters Under Rule 377 231-238
(i) Demand for adequate Central assistance to provide relief to the drought affected people In Kerala Shri V.S. Vijayaraghavan 231
~ *The Sign t marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question \vas act~lally asked on the floor of the House by that Member. f i (ii)
COLUMNS (ii) Demand for upgrading Junior Navyug Schools to Senior Navyug Schools to ensure automatic admission of students of the Junior Wing to the Senior Wing Shri Jagannath Prasad 232
(iii) Need to streamline the marketing facilities for forest products of tribal area~ of Madhya Pradesh Shri A rvind Netam 232-233
(iv) Need to fill up the reservation quota for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes candidates in government service in group 'D~ posts Shrimati Sundera\\ati r~awal Prabhakar 233-234
(v) Demand for settling claims of refugee" from PakIstan occupied area, of J & K and also conferring citJzen,hip rights on refugee" who migrated to J & K from 'Vest Pakistan at tbe time of partition Shri Janak Raj Gupta 234- 235
(vi) Need to withdraw the Muslim \\~omen (Protection of Rights on Divorce) BilJ, 1986 Shri Hannan Mollah 235
(vii) Need for measures to solve the difficulties faced by I.D.P.L. Dr. A. Kalanidhi 235-236
(viii) Demand for anothel thermaJ power sL tlon at Delhi to meet the power shortage In the capltal Shri Bbarat Slogh 236-237
(ix) Demand for opening branches of Agricultural Develop- ment Bank 10 Aliganj, PatIali and Bhargain in Etah district of Uttar Pradesh Shri Mohd. Mahfoo7 Ali Khan 237-238
Demands for Grants (General) 19X6-R7 - Contd. :!38 - 295
Ministry of Food and Clvtl Supphes-Contd.
Dr. G.S. Rajhans 238-242 Shri R. Annanambl 242-246 Shrimati Basava RaJe~wafJ 246-250 (iiI)
COLUMNS Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta 250-254 Shri .Tai Prakash Agarwal 254-258 Dr. Datta Samant 258-262 Kumari Pusbpa Devi 262-265 Shri BaJa<;aheb Vikhe Pati) 205-272 Shri ~fohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan 272-2"'6 Shri A.K. Panja 277-295
Bills Introduced-
1. Construction (Amendment) Bill ( Amendment of articles 310 and 311) by
Shri Satvag()pal Misra 29~-296
2. Con~titutfon (Amendment) BiJ1 (Insertion of new Part XXL.<\, etc.) by Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Pati1 296
3. Agro-based Indu<;tries Reserved for the Producers and Workers Cooperatives Bill by Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil 296-297
4. Small and Marginal Farmers' !\id Bill by Shri Hannan Mollah
5. Special Medical Facilities to Government Emplovees Bill by
Shri Hannan Monah ~97
6. Agricultural Workers· Compen~ation Bill by Shri Zainul Abedin 298
7. Con~titution C<\'mendment) Bill (Amendment of Article 101) by Sh ri Anoopchand Shah 298
8. Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of article 31 I) by Shri Suresh K urup 198-::99
9.. Constitution (Amendment) BiJl (Insertion of ne~' article 333A) by Shri P. Valldl Peruman 299 COLUMNS 10. Constitution (Ameudment) Bill (Amendmeat of Article 324) by Shri G.M. Banatwalla 299
11. Constitution (AmendmcDt) Bill (Amendment of Article 315) by Shri Shantaram Naik 300
Beedi and Cigar Workers (Conditions of Employment) Amend- 300-349 ment Bill (Amendment of section 2, etc.)-Contd.
Motion to consider Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 300-301 Shri C. Janga Reddy 301-303 Dr. G.S. Rajhans 303-305 Shri Amal Datta 305-307 Shri Vijay Kumar Yadav 307-313 Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil 313-318 Kumari Mamata Banerjee 318-322 Shri V.8. Krishna Jyer 322-326 Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas 327-333 Shri Moo) ChaIJd Daga 333-338 Dr. Datta Samant 338-346 Shri KammodilaJ Jatav 346 Shri Dal Chancier lain 347-349
Half-an-Hour Discussion Maaagement of Foodgrains by the 350-310 Food Corporation of India
Kumari Mamata Banerjee 350-355 Shri A.K. Panja 3SS-36..l Dr. G.8. Rajbans 363-36~ Shri Mool Chand Dap 364-369 LOK SABHA DEBATES
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LOK SABRA 1.1.1986 to 31.3.1986 are shown in the state· ment below. Thursday, April 17, 1986/Chaitra 27, 1908 (c) In one case of MIs. Venketeswara (SAKAl Fisheries (P) Ltd.. certain aUegations of financial irregularities against Board of Directors of the said company have been The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock brought to the notice of Government.
[MR. SPEAKER in 1M Chair] (d) Director of Fisheries, Government of Tamil Nadu bas been asked by Depart- ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ment of Agriculture to make confidential enquiries on the standing and antecedents of [English] Manaaing Director and other Directors and Loans to Ffshlag Companies by Shipping financial standing of M/s. Veoketeswara Development Fuod Committee Fisheries (Pvt.) Ltd., against whom allega- • 720. SHRI D.P. YADAVAt : tions of financial irregularities were made. The matter is also sub-judice before Madras SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Hiab Court. Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be p]eased to state : (e) No, Sir. (a) whether certain fishing companies STATEMENT obtained hasty clearance of loans from DETAILS OF FISHING COMPANIES Shipping Development Fund Committee WHICH WERE SA~crIONED LOANS before 31st March, 1986 ; BETWEEN 1·1-1986 TO 31-3-1986 (b) the particulars of all such fishing com- (A) Indigenous Trawlers panies which have been sanctioned loans by Shipping Development Fund Committee 51. .J.Vame 0/ the Amount of between 1 January, 1986 and 31 Mar~h, 1986 No. Company loan and the amount of loans sanctioned to each (1) (2) (3) such com,any ; 1. MIs. Premier Trawling (P) 72,51,900 (c) whether any charge of financial irre- Ltd. Madras. gularities by the Board of Directors of 2. M /•. Mahalakshmi Marine 72,51,900 fishing companies bas come to the notice of Products (P) Ltd., Madras. Government in this regard; 3. M Is. Crown Fisheries (P) 72,51,900 (d) if so, the action taken thereon; and Ltd., Tuticorin. (e) whether Government propose to 4. MIs. Swagath Marine 72,51,900 review all sucb cases? Products, Madras.
THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE S. MIs. Gees Marine Products, 72,51,900 DEPARTMENT OF SURFACB TRANS. (P) Ltd., Tuticorin. PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT : 6, Mis. Leo Searoods (P) RI. 169,78,500 1 2 3 Ltd.• (29-7-85). 8. MIs. Seabay Venture (P) 74,12,000 7. MISe Lclsun Seafoods &I Rs. 8~.24.494 Ltd., Cochin. Marine Products (P) Ltd. (3-12-85). 9. MIs. Bhavani Marine Traders 74,12,000 (P) Ltd., Madras. 8. MIs. Anchor Fisheries Rs. 2,03,94,000 &: Seafoods (P) Ltd.. 10. MIs. Embassy Fisheries (P) 148.24,000 (11-10-8S). Ltd., New Deihi. 9. S.A.V. Fisberies (I) 11. MIs. Mayura Marines (P) 148,24,000 MIs. Rs. 85,24,494 Ltd., Viaakhapatoam. Ltd., (25-9-85). 10. MIs. Pcatuna Trawling Rs. 1,77,12,000 12. 145,67,188 MIs. Four Season Fisheries (P) Ltd., (~1-8~. Ltd., Visakhapatnam. 11. Mis. MGR Seafoods 145.67,188 Rs. l,77,12.00G 13. MIs Sarva Shaktbi Fisheries (P) Ltd., (7 .. 1-86). (P) Ltd., Bangalore. 12. MIs. G.P. Marinc Rs. 1,69,78,500 14. Mis. Marine Fisheries (P) 72,83,594 Products India (P) Ltd., Ltd., Visakhapatnam. Guntur. 15. MIs. Shabari Fisheries (P) 72,83,594 13. Mis. High Seafoods Ltd., Rs. 84,89,250 Ltd., Bangalore. New Delhi. 16. MIs. Shreyas Seafoods (P) 72,83.594 14. MIS, Ocean Products Rs. 2,03,94,000 Ltd .• Bangalore. and Shipping (P) Ltd. 17. MIs Capricorn Fisheries (P) 72,83,594 SHRI D.P. YADAVA: WiIJ the hone Ltd., Visakhatnam. Minister assure the House that pending 18. MIs. Maruti Marines (P) 146,46,600 clearance by the competent inquiring autho- Ltd., Kak inada. rities and clearance by the hone High Court, DO further loan instalment will be granted 19. MIs. Sharmila Fisheries (P) 73,23,300 to MIs. Veoketnwara Fisheries (P) Ltd. ? Ltd., Visakhapatnam. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: It is basically 20. Mis. Geetha Marines Products 73,16,700 the Agriculture Ministry which is sanctioning (P) Ltd., Pondicherry. these loans through us. Thcre is a Screening Committee in Agriculture Ministry which (8) Imported Trawlers recommends the caae to us and tbe SDFC the disbuning agency. As regards this SI. Name of Company 900/0 Joan is No. & recommended particular case where irregularitiCi bave been (Dale of appl.) at the preyail- brought to our notice, we are inquiring ing rate of through tbe Director. Fisheries. and the Foreign Ex. suggestion which bas been made by the hone Member wjll be kept in mind. 1. MIs. Sagarika Seafoods Rs. 85,24,494 (p) Ltd., (9 .. 10-84). SHRI D.P. YADAVA : I want to know whether a large number of underhand deal. 2. Mis .. Continental Fisheries Rs. 85,24.494 ings have come to light in regard to giving (P) Ltd., (11-10-8~). this kind of loans and jf so, what action has 3. MIs. Regbu Seafoods (P) Rs. 85,24,494 been taken in that regard. Ltd., (26-12-85). SHR} RAJESH PILOT: Some roports 4. M/'_ Mudnur Marines Rs. J,69,7B,500 have been brouaht to tbe notice of tbe Ltd•• (7.11-8S). Government tbat lome people and some companies bave certainly misuaed the facili- S. Mis. Victoria Fisbeties Rs. 169, 78, ~OO ties. On the one band, .hipping itself is in (P) Ltd., (14-1-86). rccossiOD ; aDd there is also the questioD of ; Oral AIIIW" CHAITRA 27, 198B (SAKA) O,a/ ,,4""61'3 6 national exchequer money. the hard.earned Reno,atioD of Lord JagJUloath Tempi. money of the citizens. We will make sure ·721. SHR) BRAJAMOHAN MOHAN. that nO miluse is made by individuals or by TY : Will the Minister of HUMAN companies. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: SHRI D.P. JADElA : The hon. Minister bas just admitted tbat these loaDS are dis· (a) whether the renovation measures bursed by tbe Ministry but on the recom- taken in Puri Jagannath Temple are being mendation of tho Ministry of A8['iculture. completed according to prescribed time Another Ministry is also involved and schedule; it not, the reasons therefor; that is the Ministry of Shipping and Trans- port. The Ministry of Finance also come (b) whether the progress of renovatiC}n in it. Will the Government reconsider the and removing the plaster has brought some answer given to part (a) of the Question valuable archaeological and artistic work to where it is said. "No Sir"? Would not you notice and if so, the details thereof; and try to review the entire procedure of the (c) whether any other ancient temples funding from the SDPC in respect of these and tanks associated with the hi~tory of fishing trawlers which are purchased from this temple are under consideration for abroad and mainly to have a global tender renovation -to protect them from deteriora- when luch fishina vessels are taken and not tion and if so, the details thereor ? to go according to the individuals who make negotiations abroad? THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DBPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Sir J as far as CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHI LA the functioning of the present system is coo- ROHTAGI) : (a) Tbe conservation mea!ure cerned, it is a good system because there is taken in Jagannath temple are being imple- a Screening Committee which checks all mented in a phased manner on the advice of these observations before sanctioning the the Expert Committee constituted for the loan. After the observations are put up to preservation of the temple. The work of the Screening Committee, they recommend deplasterina and preservation bas to be to the Agriculture Ministry and tbey in turn undertaken with meticulous care and it is a recommend to us. The Shipping and Trans- slow process which ensures that tbe con .. port Min istry only gives subsidy. Loan part cealed part of masonry containing sculptured is entirely with the Agriculture Ministry. surface is not damaged. Whichever Agriculture Ministry recommends, we subsidise the shipping yards and that is (b) Yes~ Sir. The original exterior to encourage the shipping industry. surface exposed as a result of dcpJastering contains fine figures of Krishna, Agni, As far the suggestion made by the hon. Buddha, Ganesb, Nayikas, etc., within Member to have a global tcnder is concerned decorative niches, panels showing Ganas and we will consider that. Vyalu besides processions, floral and orna- mental reliefs and architectural details. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Mr. (c) Other ancient temples and tanks Speaker Sir, so far as the shipping develop- outside the Jagannath Temple complex are ment fund is concerned, it was originaJly Dot Contrally protected and, therefore, their meant lor the increase of the tonnage of renovation has not yet been considered. Indian shipping. So, I would like to know from the Hon. Minister how manyapplica.. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MORANTY: tions are pending with the Ministry for loan My questien was specific-whether tho from the SDPC for tbe cargo.. cum.. passenger renovation measures are being completed ships and to what extent tbe Government according to the prescribed time scheduJe. h as taken actioD. Absolutely no answer is given for it~ I do not know how it escaped the anention of SHRI RAJBSH PILOT : This is slightly the Hoo. Minister. However, I want to far away from this quest jon.. The information know whether the pollution and environ- that the Hon. Member hu asked for will be mental fadors which contribute to causina .applled to him iD a corroet form. damaaes aDd deterioration of the temple have 7 Oral AlISWen APRIL 17, 1986 Oral AlllWlrl a been guarded against and, if so, what steps temple complex which mainly include six ha ve been taken in that regard, with details. holy shrines. the five sacred tanks which he referred to and the four ashrams. These are SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAOI: not Centrally peotected but they have a Ireat Mr. Speaker Sir, I think the Hon. Member historic value. Therefore, the Archaeological will know from the reply itself that as far Survey of India has been directed 10 examine as possible, \\'e have kept to the time tbese monuments also. Further a phased schedule. But in between there was a court programme has been mapped out and case put by the Panda there and for two according to that there will be de-plasteriD. years there was some sort of a halt. Once which has been completed upto a certain that was cleared, the work is completely level. Apart from the de-plastermg and going on. I may, through you, point out preservation they shall also try and Jook that this is a very sensitive matter. It is a after the encroachments in and around the matter of great beauty and art. (Interrup- protected monuments and the gardens. itons) We cannot rush through and spoil the sculpture and the faces which are SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Sir, I coming out now. But I may assure him that have been to this temple and I ha~e seen things are going as fast as possible under the that the condition of maintenance is very direct supen ision of the Technical Com- poor. Sir, apart from the condition of mitte, apart from the Expert Committee maintenance of the temple, it is also a fact which has been set up. All these things are that antiques from this temple as well as there. I think. the temple, the last temple other temples are being stolen and smuggled of Narasimha, will also be completed within out of the country. I would like to know this year. what is the Government doing to see that ~ these precious antiques are not smuggled out SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MQHANTY: of the country. Sjr. my real supplementary about pollution and environmental factor has not been SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : Sir, answered. I \\Iould like to know whether I seek your indulgence to see how far this this has been care of or not. question is related to the present one. It is a different question but we will lOok into SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: I that also. About the earlier supplementary, suppose the Experts Committee and the I would like to say that chemical treatment Tech dcal Committee which have been set- up and preservation is a continuous process and and are supervising these things must have it is being ensured against also. taken care of this aspect. [Tans/a/ion] SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY; Second Phase or Indira Gandhi Cans' I would like to know what is the demarcat- Ing line between the monuments which come *721.. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER under the preservation of Government of JAIN : \ViJI the Minister of WA 1 ER India and the Archaeological Department of RESOURCES be pleased to state: '_ the State Government? As a matter of fact , 1 have written a number of Jetters (a) whether the Rajasthan Government about Bbo.vankuneswar temple of Arukhuda has sought the advice of the Central Water which is part of Jagannath culture and other Commission and Planning Commission tanks in »uri but nobody takes care of it. in regard to certain decisions for drastic Government of India pushes me to .the State changes made in tbe second pbase of Indira Government and the State Government says, Gandhi Canal after 1983 ; and it is for tbe Government of India. I am in a (b) if so, details thereof and the pro- helpless posl1ton. Please make it clear that gress made in the matter? not only the Jagannath temple but the whole complex will be taken care of. [English} SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : Sir, THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- his query is very pertinent and clear and I will SOURCES (SHR! B. SHANKARANAND) : myself try to give a pertinent repJy. There (a) and (b). The Government of R.ajasthan are several monuments outside Jagannath have indicated that tbey are further reviaiol 9 Oral AIIIWer. CHAITRA 27. 1908 (8.4£4) Oral Answer! 10 the ICOpe of S~age-II of the Indira GUldhi wide strip along the Sagarmat- Canal Project, envisagin& pasture develop- gopa, Gadra Road extension ment in tail areas or the Canal and and other direct distributaries additional irrigation area under the lift below RD 961:~ schemes. The matter is under discussion with the State Government. Now, Sir, about tbe Second modifica- tion, the State Government has suggested [Translation] certain things. lhere is an interesting story. The State Government proposed Lift SHRI VIRDHI CHANOER JAIN: Mr. Irrigation Sehemes. Speaker, Sir. I would like to kno'Y from the hOD. NJlaister what are the suggestions given MR. SPEAKER Ihis is Question by the Rajasthan Government in respect of Hour. revision of the scope of Stage II of the Indira Gandhi Canal Project and whether SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: That is what the hon. Member is interested to know. tbe Central Water Commisc;ion has examin- In February 1977. in the second stage of ed these suggestions and if so, what is their the project five lift schemes were suggested report? by the State Governrnent and I am surprised in May 1918, these proposed lift schemes [English] were dropped by the State Government. SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : This is a Now, the State Government has again very gigantic project. The State Government come up before the Central Government has revised it three times. Again it bas suggesting these modifications. sought modifications and the modifications SHRI RAM SINGH YADA V: are under consideration. The State Govern- It was the JanatJ. Government at that time. ment have suggested certain modifications. MR. SPEAKER: Government is a It is given in deta it here. I can quote Government. this: PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, "The modifications proposed are as you allow me to reply to the question. indicated below: AN HO~. ~lE~1BER: '\"ith retrospec- (I) Areas up to RD 961 of the main tive effect. canal will receive irrigation by gravity. There is no change in SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAI~: the scope of the project up to RD This is a very important question. That is 961 from that finalised in 1985." why I am very much interested in it. This is what tbe bon. ~1ember perhaps SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Now. I seems to be concerned. come to the se~cnd modification which bas been proposed by the State Government. I (2) Below RD 961 of the main canal, quote :- the following works haye been proposed : (in Six lift scbelnes have been proposed out of \\ hich 5 are the (i) Out of a total OCA of 5.40 modified proposals of ear lier lub hectares under gravity flow finalised hft canals and the sixth irrigation, 3.66 Jakh hectares of one is a new additi(ln. Under land is proposed to be deve- these lift schemej, a 3-kilometre loped as a pasture land at wide strip of lanj on either an intensity of 100% for bank is proposed to be brought dairy development and animal under inigation. Also, one husbandry. In the remaining It i \ometre v.ide shelter belt 1.74 lath hectares conventio- plantation on either side of three nal irria&tioD of 800;0 inten- kilometre strip bas been propos- sity has been proposed by ed. These areas are propcsed to brinaiq under irri,ation 3 Km. be irrigated at 80% intensity. APRIL 17t J986 OrII/ ~"..",.. t 2 (iii) Quantity of water proposed to areal of work OD Staao. II of tbe Indira be provided for drinking and Oandhi Canal Project. This beiq is a yety other uses has been kept as 0.65 important project, I would like to know the MAF for the time being. The time by ~hich the Central Water Commis- ultimate requirements bave been lion, the' PIannina Commission and your indicated to be 1800 cusecs, own Department would be tatina a decision that is. 1 MAF and tho balance and the time by which the Government of quantity is proposed to be met Rajasthan would bast.D the pace of work with my better water manqe. follOwing tbat decision ? Also, what special mont practices". assistance the Central Government are going to give in this regard ? So, Sir, these are the modifications • sugeested by the State Government. or SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: So rar course, there is a purpose (or suggesting as the question of taking a decision is con- these things. They are justified in suaestine cerned, what decision can be taken if the these modifications for tbe object of making State Government fails to give proper reply better use of tbe water. The observations to tbe points raised or comments sought. made by the Central Water Power Com- If they are able to give clarifications early, mission are for the entire country. There was a decision on the scheme can be taken in a discussioD. I know, Sir, you are interes- the meeting which is loing to be held in a ted in Rajasthan. day or two. MR. SPBAKER : I am interested in SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV : Mr. whole of the conntry. Speaker, Sir, I would like to submit to the hOD. Minister that Stage of tbe Indira ( InterruptiolU) n Gandhi Canal Project extends upto Gadra MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Minister, whether Road from Mohangarh and the distance of the penoo in charge was a practical farmer Pakistan border from the Main Canal near or Dot. Mohangarh is 40 to 4S kilometres whereas tbis distance at Gadra Road is ooly S to 6 SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Sir. I kilometre!. You have stated tbat some am a farmer myself. pasture-land development in tail-end areas will be allowed, but will it not be necessary MR. SPEAKER: I am askin. wbether from tbe strategic point or view Dot to allow the penon in charge who changed and ro· pasture-land development in that Western changed these things had practical knowledge part of Rajasthan Canal borderiOI Pakistan of agriculture~ iP'igation or not. and instead allow cultivation of land so as to eOlore population in that area which in SHru B. SHANKARANAND ~ turn would ensure security of the border persons involved in the scrutiny of these area? Will tbe hOD. Minister consider this modifications are expertl, water scientists, point? topmost engineers, and experts in water management. They are put incbarae of [ English] this. SHRJ B. SHANKARANAND; May I MR. SPEAKER.: You are right; but lay that jt is a lugestion for action. Itin the bead counts. (TrlUUl4lio,,_7 [Translation) SHR) MOHO. AYUB KHAN: t.1r. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, tbo areal of JhunjbuDU. Sitar Speaker, SIr, the hon. Minisltr has stated and Cburu tbrouJb which tbis canal paIIeI tbat the Central Water Commission is OD very close to Pakistan border are wacer the job. What J wanted to say was tbat scarce areas for centuries. I would like to decision in this reprd m\Ut be taken .. know"bother a part of thil prcciOUI water carly as possible because the delay in latina wo1lld aIIo be lupplied to the people of tbea. a dedJion relults in alOwUt. down of pro- ...... , If 10, by "hen ? 13 0,,,/ A"""'8 CIIAITRA 27, 1908 (8~U) Oral ~IU"'''' 14 [Enlilah] respectively. our of a total length of 2942 ICM of distributoey syste~ 2907 KM of SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : The length has been completed by December history of thi' project since 1955 till now 1985.) do not see if there is any delay in goes to show that the entire water tbat is this. Work on construction of Stage II of meant for this area is (or those areal wbere the project is in full swiDa and it is hoped water is 10 scarce. to be completed very soon. If those modi- fications were not sUllested. perhaps the MR.. SPEAKER ; And the area mention- delay would have been cut short. ed by tbe hone Member is also very scarce in water. I can vouchsafe for that. MR. SPEAKER: Yea Dr. Bhoi. But if you put irrelevant qtJeltiOD, I wil not allow , SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : I can it. say that tbis is meant for the R.ajalthan people. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Sir. if I am irrelevant, you can send me out of tbis [Translation] House. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to submit to the Sir, recently you must have been on tbe TV ailan~ic constructiOD work of the bOD. Minister tbat we had requellted a num- the Indira Gandhi Canal In this connectio~ I ber of times to declare it a national project would ike to know whether the Planning and to complete it as soon as possible, but J Commission and people are getting the Central Government have paid DO beed the/eWe to our request so Car. We have kept you the expert advice from geologiats. Are you adopting the Vishweswarayya tbeory of posted about the changes made and bung- construction reprding the irrigation projects lings committed since then with the requests ~d are yoa involving the expert geologilts to set it right. The eOlineers have indulged ID the country to delineate the different in bungling to the tune of Rs. 200 crores. Today, again I would like to avail of tbia formations so tbat they can properly advise as to what type of materials like gravel, opportunity to request you that as long as stones, etc. can be used in the construction tbe Central Government do Dot take this to expedite it 7 In Karnataka, Mohammad project in their bands, it is DOt aoing to be completed early and may take year. to be Ismael and Vishweawarayy& bad made a master plan of tbe whole State about the completed. At the same time, u Stated by the hone Member from Jbunjhunu. besides irription projects taking the advice of the senior geoloaista. You can also involve Jhunj~unu. Jodhpur, Pala and other neip- houring areas are also facing acute scarcity NSRA in this process. I would lite to of drinking water. With regard to the third know whether you would request tho au_ion received from the Rajasthan Planning Commission and the ewe to Government. I would like to know what involve all the expert individuals aDd olp- decision has been taken in that regard and nisations in future. The hon. Minister ma, even reply later. how much time Government would take to it complete this project on priority basis. SBRI B. SHANICARANAND -: Sir, it bas no relation to tbe main question. [English] SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : Sir, May NoJ'IDI for Issue of Railway Free Passes I. say ~ ,,:ord? Let tbere not be an imprea· to IDdnlduais and IasdtutloDS. sion within this House or outside the House . *723. PROF.. MADHU DANDAVATE: tbat there bas been a delay in implementa- Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be tation of tbe project. Absolutely, there is DO pleased to state : delay. ( Int~r,upt;o"s) (a> whether is • fact tbat with a view to proventiq indiscriminate issue of railway . ~lease listeD to me. Staae-I of tho pro- tree passes, aU railway paaea to indiviclua1a Je~t IS almost complete. 204 KM lenatb of and institutiOlll were caoc:cJIod • f~dor caDal and 119 lona maiD canal were J completed by June 1964' aad JUDo 1975 (b> if so, wbctber this step bas resUlted \5 Oral AIISWeT,J APR.IL 17, 1986 Oral Annm8 16 in genuine social institutions engaged in PR.OF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That useful social activities and relief w.ork having is the result. I have lot my rep]y also bero. also been robbed of the facility of railway Therefore my specific question fl, when the passes; and new Government came in 1980, is ft not a fact that the successive Railway Ministers (c) if so, whether Government propose indiscriminately increased the Dumber of to reframe well defined norms for the issue Railway passes? It attracted Severe criticism of railway passes and then re-issue tbe f com various newspapers and the Prime passes on the basis of the revised norms ? Minister Mrs. Indira Gandhi advised the Railway Minister to take cognizance of this THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT complaint and as a result of that, to stop (C;HRI BANSI LAL): (a) It is presumed this indiscriminate issue of railway passed. that the question refers to the issue of Com- That is the reason why the passes were com- plimentry Card Passes. \V ith a view to pletely cancelled in 1981. I want a specific effecting strict economy in expenditure all reply to this question before I come to the the ComPlimentary Card Passes were cancel- second one. led in 1981 . SHRI BANSI LAL: There was a criti- (b) No, Sir, Keeping in view the needs cism OD issue of such passes in botb the of the organisations and the financial cons- Houses of Parliament and outside a]so and traints of tbe Railways, a limited number ot that is why the passes were cancelled and it such paSSes, which are Complimentary, are was for the economy as weI). issued in deserving caseS. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, he (c) Guidelines for issue of passes have agrees. Sir I am glad; he is a very honest been in existence for more than a decade. person. Complimentary Card Passes are issued only with the approval of the Minister for Trans- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : But tbe port, based on justification and merits of question is whether he is an honest Minister. each case. Reframing of guidelines is not considered necessary_ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir. I hope, with the same clarity and honesty he P:lOF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sic, will also give the reply to the second ques- there are a lot of inaccuracies in the answers tion. I am expecting that. In the second part, that are given. there are two inaccuracies and I hope they (Interruptions) will be corrected and a correct answer will be given. Prof. Ranga, I think agrees with me. Now in part 'c'-it is stated that guide- MR. SPEAKER: Then, it is quite lines for the issue of passes have been in a formidable task for me to resist. existence for more tban a decade. Tbe same is continuing, and tbe passes to individuals PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: and institutions will be issued on the basil Firstly, you calefully look at the wording of of that. He has said, ·'more than a decade". the fir~t question, i.e. (a) whether these Now. I have got here with me the Lok passes were cancelled with a view to pre- Sabha proceedings of 1978. There was a venting indiscriminate issue of railway free Started Question No. 471 on 28 March, passes. Now, you have altogether scurred 1978. Sir fortunately or unfortunately, I bed over that prospect and you have not given a replied that. Sir, I will only read out that repJy whether all the passes in 1981 were because he has to reply. cancelled to prevent the earlier indiscrimi- nate is~ue of railway passes. He bas said, He has said for mocc than a decade the just to ensure economy that bas been done. same arc continuing. I replied it on So, fir5tly is it a not a fact that in 1981. .. 28.3.1918. (InlerruptionJ) [Trans/ation} MR. SPEAKER : Does it not come to It reada-"but we had fixed new Dor•• tbe same tbina ? with relard to illue of pallO! to tbe peopl. 17 Oral Answer, CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Oral An.nver.r 18 after the Janata Government bad come to whatever cases fit in, will those social institu- power. These have been our three norms : tions be granted passes? That is a11. [English] SHRI BANSI LAL : The guidelines which Prof. Dandavate has read out.. and (1) Institutions and organisat ions devo- which he has given in his reply;n 1978 were ted to social, cultural, scientific, already in existence ; and he has mentioned literary, sports and educational one particular organizatioD, viz Raja Dinkar activities and whose work is of all- Kelkar Museum, Pune. Prof. Dangavate India character ; hJmself had sponsored this case, and the pass was granted to this organization. (2) Organisations developed to the wel- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Like fare of Scheduled CastesJ Scheduled Tribes, Backward aDd neglected that there are various organizations. I am sections, women, blind and handi- not pleading on]y for the cases which I had capped persons; recommended (3) Eminent persons engaged in the [Translation] work of national importance, for MR. SPEAKER: Professor Sabeb, this which they are required to undertake does happen in general guillotine; some- frequent journeys." times somebody is left out and sometimes somebody is included. Here also, sometimes Sir, this was announced in this very Agriculture is left out and sometimes House on 28.3.78. Not more than a decade Commerce. has passed. And therefore, I would like to know whether these Dorms are being follow- PROF. MADHU DANDVATE : No, ed, and if they are followed now my Mr. Speaker, Sir, Agriculture cannot be left specific query is this. He has said that out. there is no complaint. The genuine socia) organisations are refused passes. Sir, [English] I will quote Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. There are certain social institutions in diffe- With you in the Chair, can any Minister rent parts of the country. There is a museum dare plead for guillotining Agriculture? -Raja Kelkar Museum-known aU over [Translation] the country where number of things in different parts are collected and kept and SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA: Prime Minister Mrs. Gandhi and Rajiv Mr. Speaker, Sir, just now We heard about Gandhi have given a certificate. The matter guillotine of passes. ~ I would like to know came to her and she also directed them. from the hone Minister what steps have been Then, he said that Yes, it was unjurt Dot to taken for issuing passes; whether it is a give them the passes. Recently passes have fact that a decision to issue passes to been given. freedom figbters was taken in the Freedom Fighters Conference held in Allahabad to There i~ another case of the Antar which, perhaps, the Prime Minister had also Bhartiya Organization working for National given his approval; if so, the steps taken in Integration. on behalf of whom Baba Amte thb regard so far? Second Iy t will Govern- has been undertaking a tour Regarding that ment re-consider iss uing of passes to such Antar Bhartiya Organization, the position is ora3nisations which actually have social that, whether it was Congress Government responsibility and are in fact engaged in or Janta Government, in the past they were social work? always having a pass, but due to his general guillotine. just as ou r Derr ands, these passes SHRI BANSI LAL: Sir. so feu as have al~o been guillotined. Therefore, will he issuing of passes is concerned. we do issue really go through all the lists on the basis of passes fronl time to time to those who these three norms which I have read out, acluaIJy do good \\ork, but the passes are and try to review the list? I do not want issued on the ba~i, of the import&fl("e of the any Injustice, or any undeserving case to be individual. Sharnlajl has referred to the considered. But 00 the basis of this norm, case of freedom fighters. The Prime Ministor 19 Oral AMWen APRIL 17 .. 1986 01al Answer, 20 had announced it in Allahabad and this Indoor patients treated at AIIMS scheme has come into effect from 1st D.ecem- *729. SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will ber. Every Freedom Fighters who draws the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY pension from the Central Government will WELFARE be pleased to state : be issued cheque pass for six months and his spouse or attendant is also a110wed in (a) the number of indoor patients treat- the saD'le class. ed at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi during 1985 ; SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA: I want to know whether the passes have (b) break up of the total number State/ actually b~eo issued or it is still a scheme ? Union Territory-wise; SHRI BANS! LAL: Orders bave been (c) the break-up income-groupwise issued to passes. As and when the Freedom and Fighters start approaching the railway authorities, they would start getting passes. (d) the number of VIPs treated during 1985 and the number of beds/rooms reserved [English] for them, if any? SARI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA: THE DEPUTy lvIINISTER IN THE It should be issued automatically. Where MINISTRY OF FAMILY WELFARE is the question of paying 'as and when' ? (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) 46,068. MR. SPEAKER: Order what is this? (b) Delhi 30,(j62 This is not a free for aU. Now Prof. Haryana 4,095 Ranga. U.P. 6,854 PROF. N.G. RANGA: It is not a fact Punjab 378 that the railway passes for the President and Rajasthan 651 the Secretary of the All India Freedom Other States 2,844 Fighters Organization were cancelled by my hOD. friend, ~fr. Dandavate. inspite of the Foreign Nationals 284 representation I myself aho had made to him? That cancellation still continues ( c) The Institute does not maintain even today, under the present Railway income-wise data of patien.s. Minister, inspite of repeated requescs on our (d) No specific data is maintained as to behalf. the uumber of VIPs treated in AIIMS. No It is also not a fact that even over the bed:'! or rooms have been specifically reserved decisions, suggestions or concessions offered for VIPs. by the Prime Minister, we have made a SYED SHAHABUDDIN : The All India further representation for a better utilization Institute of MedIcal SCiences, as we aU know, of that concession? The hOD" Minister has is an institution of national importance been good enough to say that he would which should theoretically have equal access reconsider his earlier decision. for all citizens of the country wbo make the particular grade or fulfil the criterion for SHRI BANSI LAL: I do Dot know admission. We \\ ere advised that the whether Prof Dandavate had cancelled the criterion for admission is not rank or origin passes or not. But Mr. Sheel Bhadra Yajee or domicile. But ] want to know whether a is President of the Freedom Fighters Asso- particular sickness that is ~ought to be treat- ciation, and we have given him a Card Pass. ed cannot be treated even by a specialist He holds it. eVen at a State Capital and then these MR. SPEAKER.: Now next question: patients have to be referred to this institu- Mr. Du MUDSi. tion of national iInportance. We however find that three States, Delhi, Haryana and PROF. N.G. RANOA: What about the U .P., I dare say not the whole of Haryana, General 8ecR'tary? The General Secretary not the whole of U.P. but only a few hal lot to 10 round the whole of India. districtS of Haryana and a rew districts of (1111~). U.P. close to Delhi, account roughly lor 95 21 Oral Answer" CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) Oral A1I6Werl 22 per cent of the patients treated by AU India IHies are infrastructure in Delhi are being Institute of Medical Sciences. To my mind, progressively implemented as per the time therefore, this is a detraction from the schedule which ends by the end of the national importance of the institution. Has Seventh Plan. As regards admis.ion, severity the criterion been changed or whether some of the disease is tbe criterion and everybody method is to be introduced by the Govern- wbo comes to tbis hospital is admitted ment or by the author ities of the All India subject to availability of space and facilities. Institute of Medical Sciences that all serious and research-oriented cases referred by local SYED SHAHABUDDIN : I doubt specialists from anywhere in India can have whether the Minister has got tbe figures. equal access to the All India Institute of Even jf his contention is that only 30 per Medical Sciences or alternatively should cent is earmarked for referral cases, perhaps there be similar institution of high quality in in that 30 per cent, perponderance would be other regions of the ~ouDtry ? only for local and nearby patients. MR. SPEAKER: How can you expect My second question relates to part (d) people from Madras to come to Delhi for of my main question. The Minister said treatmeDt ? that there was no specific data about the VIPs. Now, I am absolutely amazed it. I SYED SHAHABUDDIN : The cannot think, the general impression among the COme from Madras, but I can tell you, there people is that even if a VIP suffers a minor are many cases coming from my State, Bihar t ailment he can get admission to the All which are of the highest urgency ; and they India Institute of Medical Sciences. At least, are refused admission. this is what the people believe. In the state- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Some ment the Miniiter has said that DO rooms or patients come from my State and they are beds are reserved for VIPs. I know that this asked to come again in 1989. is completely wrona. I can give you even the numb:r of rooms that are reserved for MR. SPEAKER : There should be a di- VIPs there. I would, tMrefore, like to versification regional1y. know: why is it that the authorities are not even maintaining some data about the VIPs, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Even some of whom I am sure, even ring up the . to die, people go from different places to boo. ~1inister and the Deputy Minister for Varanasi. access or admission to this hospital ? MR. SPEAKER: It should be region .. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: We did wise so that it can be approachable. Dot say in tbe main answer that the VIPs aro SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR I As per not treated there. We merely said that the the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, details of the numbers of VIPs treated are it is not strictly specified that this Institution not kept. has to be a referral hospital. However, tbe Review Committee a ppointed by us has SYBD SHAHABUDDIN : If the names recommended that it should preferably be are kept, the numbers can be founcL run al a referral hospital. Later OD, the MR. SPEAKER: Next time, we will Estimates Committee of this Lok Sabha. in send them somewhere else. (/nterruptiolU) the 54th Report and 70th Report, said that VIPs are hereby informed that they arc not if it is made a strictly referral hospital with .. to fall sick any more. out building up peripheral infrastructure in Delhi and tbe surrounding areas, it will SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: With cause a grave hardsbip to the people and regard to Members of Parliament, as SooD therefore, the time is not now opportune to as a Member of Parliament is admitted to strictly implement the concept of a referral the AIIMS, as per the rules of the Sabha. hospital. As far as AIIMS is concerned , at the intimation is given to the Speaker. the moment, 30 per cent of the patients of the Institution arc referral and the other 70 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: That per cent are nOI referral; they are just like is not the casco It is only when we arc in a normal hospital. The peripberal faci- arrested. 23 Ora/ A.nsw~r3 APRIL If, 1986 Oral A.nswers 24 SHRI S. KRISI:INA KUMAR : Of the from all parts of the country visit this total of 1100 beds in the hospital, 65 beds Institute. While agreeing with my colleague are private beds. There is no separate on his reply to Shri Shahabuddin's question. reservation for VIPs. We stand by that I would like to say that there is no separate statement. reservation for the V.I.Ps., but at the same time I would like to request the hOD. [Translation] Members of this august House kindlY Dot to telephone us with the request for a room. SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Sir, It is our endeavour to provide them treat. there should be separate arrangement for ment but as of now there is no reservation V.I.Ps. for V.I.Ps. If a V.J.P. is in trouble, he also SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS : Hon. being a human being, efforts are made for Speaker, Sir, you may tell them to make him also. separate arrangements for us at everY place. Second thing that I want to say is that (Interruptions) we have only 65 private rooms of which 5 rooms have been kept for the Faculty [English] Members and the Staff. It levaes us with SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: How can 55 rooms which have so much rush that we anybody plead for reservation for VIPs ? become helpless. The number of other beds is about 800. The patients are admitted (Interruptions) accordingly. But I want to mention one thing in this House that we have recently SHRI,SANTOSH MOHAN DEV : Now increased some beds in Cardio Thoracic VIPs do not go there because we get good and Neuro Science Centre and Cancer treatment in the Annexe by virtue of you, Department. we hop~ that with this the We think you for that. There is a Sir. number of beds will increase by 350. Eight good arrangement. I now put my question. more operation Theatres would start func- From my experience of the last several tioning by 1987. I hope, by that time we years I can say that those patients who come would be able to provide some relief As from North.eastern region to the All India of DOW, we send back our hon. Me~bers Institute of Medical Sciences, are given time V.I.Ps. and other patients who come fro~ to come after seven or eight months. Many outside by saying that we have no rooms , of them die in this period and they do not operation theatres; we do not have Post get a chance to come back again. In view Operative Care Units and I.U.C. Units. It of that, I ask why is it that medical facili- is our endeavour to increase their numbers ties are not available in such remote areas? and we hope to add another 350 beds for Is it possible to introduce some norms so this purpose. Going by the prec;ent rush, we that when patients come from remote areas, hope that we shaH be able to provide some they are admitted at the earliest possibJe help by then. date and tfte treatment is given to thenl in MR. SPEAKER: Why don't you take time? this Akbar Hotel and construct private ward. there because this Hotel has already [ Translation] closed down. THB MINISTER OF HEALTH AND [ EIf61uh] FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI MOHSINA KIOWAI) : With regard to the Why don't YOD change this into private point raised by tbe bon, Member, I would ward sort of thing? like to say that sometimes a situation comes when we have to tell the patient that we ReplaceaeDt of the Old Mattaocbery Bridae at Cocbln Part ca.onot provide him a bed because the treat- 1DCIDt can be given according to the facilities .730. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will availabJo. We are making efforts for the the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Jut two years to build more Operation state ; 'lbeaters. SecondlyJ the people consider the (a) whether the Mattanchery bridle at AD India Institute of Medical Sciences a Cochin Port has completed its safety rt"nte of exceUence and fhat j. why people period ; 2S Oral ..4nswera CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Oral AnnvuJ 26 As far as the importance is CGtlcerne (a) whether it is a fact that two day ment of health, physical fitness and work convention of All India Physical Education capacity to participate in physical education and Allied Teachers' Federation was beld and sports programme irrespective of rate, in Delhi in March, 1986; colour sex, religion and poJitical opinion. (b) if so, the recommendations that the CONVINCED that one of essential Convention has made to Government; conditions of life in a democratic country and like ours, is that every youth should have scope to develop his physical, intellectual (c) the reaction of Government thereto? and moral powers and therefore access to physical education should be assured and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE guaranteed during his period of education. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA BELIEVING that physical education ROHT AGI): (a) to (c). A statement is should make controbution to al1 sided given below. development of the student·youth and sbould STATEMENT further provide scope for the development of skills in the movement and quality in the (a) Tow day convention of All India various programmes under it. Pbysical Education and Allied Teachers' Federation was held in Delhi in March, BELIEVING that physical education 1986. should offer scope to tbe adventurous spirit of the youth so that they may imbibe quali- (b) The Convention adopted the follow- ties of initiative, self-reliance, touchness ing Resolutions : and team spirit. RESOLUTION'l BELIEVING that physica J education in NATIONAL CHARTER ON PHYSICAL addition to the development of health and EDUCATION total fitness, provides scope for leadership requirement, cooperative work, adjustment In this Charter, tbe internationaHy to life, capacity to face, challenge in life accepted definition of Physical Education and better national and international under- which includes health, physical education, standing. sports and recreation has been accepted. TAKING INTO ACCOUNT the diver- PRBAMBLE: sity of programmes of physical education and its contribution to the fuJI and well- The National Convention of AU India balanced personality, the student youth Ph;y!ical Education and Allied Teachers needs to be prepared for any kind of service Federation was held in New Delhi on 220d to the country. and 23rd March. 1986. PROCLAIMS that tbis Nationa1 Con- RECALLING that in the National Con- vention for the purpose of development of vention, the participants proclaimed that Physical Education at the service of the physical education is the component of the humanity, urges Government, non-Govt. overall .ystem of education and is nece- Organisat ions t Educational institutions and ssary for the development of physical allied organ! sation! of the youth be guided abilities of a person, his fitness and the thereby to make all efforts to put physical development of this personality and affirmed education on par with other academic dis- its faith to integrate physical education ciplines, provided for them. into the pattern of education so that the ,outh or the country may be better equipped ARTICLE 1-PhYSical Education ia a for sociaI)y useful productive work and the fundamental right of student youth. defouce of tbe country. 1.1. Every student bas a fundamental RECALLING that the International right or access to physical education for Clarter of Pbysical Education and Sports the full development of his personality. by UNESCO (1978) proclaimed that every Scope to develop hi' phYliCMl, mental and 10utb . bas a risht aDd acceu for devclop- moral powers through physical educatioD 29 Oral AlUWen CHAITRA 27, 1905 (SAKA) must be guaranteed both within and with- be framed at the National level with a out the educational systems. compulsory core programme to be introdu- ced all over the country providing ample 1.2. Every student must have oppor- scope to elective areas in the field. Health tunity for participation in physical education practices should have a proper place in programmes for development of his physical these syllabi. Such syllabi should take into fitness and attaining standards in the account the traditional Indian activities various programmes of physical education. which are simple in nature, Ie!s expensive, suitable to the climate conditions and at the 1.3. Graded curricula in physical same time helpful} in achieving the objectives education should be carefully worked out at of physical education. In this context, the different stages of education viz. pre-primary, Yogic system ~hould find a proper place elementarY. secondary, higher secondary, at the different stages of education. collegiate and university. • 5.2. The syllabi should cover knowledge ARTICLE 2 of various items relating to physical educa-. 2.1. Leadership in physical edu~ation tion and health education for whicb suitable should be developed to meet the requue- text books should be prescribed classwise ments of youth~ at aU stages of education which will greatly he1p them to understand as the effectiveness of the programme the purpose and significance of this largely depends upon leadership. programme. 2.2. So far as inservice teachers in 5.3. Scientifically based evaluation pro- schools and colleges are concerned, orienta- gramme is a must which will enable the tion courses, correspondence courses and students to understand theIr level of achieve- open university continuation courses shoUld ment and which will motivate them to take be organIsed for them to update their interest and show improvement in tbe work. knowledge in the recent develo;Jmcnts in tbe In public examinations also, this subject field and the technique and de\- ices essen- deserves a place at par with other subjects. tial for ensuring maximum partiCIpation of ARTICLE 6 the students and their quality inlprovement. Organisation-Since a pby~ educa- ARTICLE 3 tIon has to be accepteu as a discipline at Status of PhysIcal Education Teachers-- par with other subjects, its requirements Physical education and sports personnel such a~ provision in the time table. adequate under all stages of educatlon~ ~hould enjoy equipment, play areas, adequacy of staff the same status at par with other subject and maintenance of registers and records teachers in respect of payscalcs, promotion are matters \\hich should be standaridized and other bene its available to subject and spelled out for rigorous UDplementation teachers. without wbich this subject will not prove effecttve as well as beneficial to tbe students. ARTICLE 4 6.:2. A fulfiedged Department of Physi- Load work-Physical education teachers cal Education has to be established in oacil should have the same load of work as is school, college and university witb adequate prescribed for other teachers in heu of the staff and proper infra-structure,. so that the existing general practice of one (e.lcher pcr various duties pertaining to the organisation institution irrespccti ve of its strength. \\"bile and adminiluatioD in the respective schools, calculating the load of work. the time collc:ges and universities can be carried out devoted by them out of school, honrs In effectively. conductiDg games, periods, special guidance classes, iotramurals and the simihtr activities ARTICLE 7 should be given due weigbtage. • Funds. The Central Gove~t :. .lould ARTICLE 5 immediately undenake physical education census to find out the requirements of Syllabi in Physical Edu~at ion-Wen playfields, equipments, personnel and infra- graded sylJabi in physical education should suuClure-fat:ilities. With this basic data, 31 Oral AMw.,." APRIL 17.'''' Ora MIWI'6 32 tbe Central and State Govt. should prepare have to be manned by weU qualified penona resource pJans and funds be provided in physical educatfou and with 1001 accordinSJy. In additioD to Govern moot experience in the Icld. financing at the State and Central levels, voluutary financing is also essential. RESOLUTION 5. UNIFIED AGBNCY ARTICLE 8 For better coordination and effective implementation, physical education and Monitorinl agency - A well devised sports should be under the same controlling supervisory agency consisting of qualifiec:f Authority and Department. personnel in physical education to evaluate the progTammes from time to time and take RESOLUTION 6. STATUS TO PHYSICAL effective measures for their improvement is EDUCATION and SPORTS PERSONNEL essential. Government should take immediate steps ThiS Charter is intended for setting up for giving proper statUI, service conditions a firm pattern of physicaJ education in tbe and designation to physical edueation and country to prepare the youth to meet the sports personnel who are devoting them- challenges of 21st Century. selves fully to this National task of buildin. the youth for the service of the country. RESOLUTION 2. BOARD OF PHYSI. CAL EDUCATION PART (C) The Government of India sbares the emphasis placed by the Con- A Central Advisory Board of Physical vention on. improvi ng the programmes of Education should immediately be instituted physical education and sports and for to advise the Central Government in matters improving the facilities for the same. The of physical education. which wilJ consist Government bas adopted the National of State Representatives incbarge of physical Policy of Sports and Physical Education, education and ex pens in the country. t 984 which states the broad policy para- Further, similar Advisory Committees/ meters in this field. The Government bas councils should be established in the various accorded thi' sector a Ireater emphasis in States and Union territories of the country. VIltb Plan indicatore of whicb ; allocation for sports durin, VIIth Plan is Ra. 200 RESOLUTION 3. NEW EDUCATION crores and for Physical Bducation RI. 8 POUCY crorea, as apinst correspondlnl aUocation . While welcoming the Government deci- in Vlth Plan of RI. 10.75 crores for Sports sion to announce new Education policy by and Rs. J.25 erore, for physical Education. May 1986~ this National Convention regrets The Government haw taken Dote of the that tbe draft Education Policy does Dot recommendations made by the Federation meation physical education as a part of ~ in this Convention in the context of tbe Education Policy. As proclaimed by tbe New Education Policy. International Charter (UNSECO 1978) where- SHRI N. TOMBI SINOH: The atate- in physical education has been considered ment is • very loog one aDd a comprehen. as an integral part of education, this Natio- sive statement allO. It contains Ibe entire nal Cooftlltion, therefore, rccommends to proceediu.. the convention containiDI the Central Government that pbysical or ill resolutions aDd ita recommendatioDl. education sbouid be considered as aD inte&ral May I know from the Government Minister pan of education in the final Education whether iD view the Government'. Policy Paper. Implementation of this or reaction at the cod of the statemeDt, more Charter will go on 1001 way in deveJopina alJocatioa b .. been made in the 7th Piau human resources. tor sports and pbysical education? May RESOLUTION 4. CELLS FOR PHYSI. I know from tbe MiDister whether a com- CAL EDUCATION prebeDliye eIDIUS wid be UDder takoa aU ov. the co_try 10 tbat rcaional disparltiea Separate celJs for physical educati4a prevailiDa in tbe difrer'ODt ,eaioos .. the sbouId be created in U.G.C•• N.C.. E.R .. T. matter of diatributioa of facUities for aports aDd A.I.. U. fuU), devoted to physical educa- aDd pbJlical eclucadoo WiD be taken care doG aad itt requircmeDtI. These uajtJ will 01 7 Jf 10. wbeD saeb. f;ellIUS wiD .Wt ~ 33 O,al "4"..,.,, CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written AIUW~'" 34 I .Ik for tbis, because. this il one of the keen not of all their recommendations that recommendations of the convention. have been made. Regarding the particular census part, that will be lOoked into and as SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: far as possible we will see what can be done I am afraid I don't follow tbe latter part - about it. of tbe question. Doe, the hon-Member meaD that a separate centre sbould be established. which will look after all tbe WRITTEN A7~SWERS TO QUESTIONS basic facilities ? I would like bim to clarify [English] on this particular point. Punctuality of Sealdah Howrab Bound SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Mr. Eastern and South Eastern Speaker, Sir. I would like to clarify further as the Minilter wants, regarding may second Suburban Trains part of tbe question. The suggestion given *j~4. SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS by the convention is that a comprebemive MUNSr: \Vl11 the Minister of TRANS- census should be conducted for tbe whole PORT be plea~ed to ~tate : COUDtry to remove tbe disparities. Now in view of that may I know whetber tbe (a) whether his !\11nishy is aware that allocation of tbe 7th Plan win be distributed punctuality of alfi10st all the Eastern and on the basis of the census so proposed '! South Ea~tcrn Sutlurban trains of West We sbould aim at removing the disparities Bengal toy. ards Sealdah and Howrah hat tbat arc now prevalling. I would hke to gone down and frequent demonsttations by draw tbe special attention of tbe Minister passengers are being held ; to the North Eastern area, particularly my (b) jf so, tbe reasons therefor; State Manipur which, without any facility, bu produced best sportsmen in various (c) whether the KG~1Ch(Djunga Express disciplines. Various natural potentiatities and Gour Expre'ls remoin unpanctual on are there in such areas. I am gavina you only 25 days on an avef(~ge In a mODth ; and ono example. There are similar arers in the country WhOlC sucb facilities are to be (d) if ~OJ the remedial measures propo- prOVided. The p~eDI situation is that sed to be taken In this regard? such facilities are verI limited. I would like THE ~fINISTER OF TRANSPORT tho Minister to tell ul whecher thc Cenuc (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b). Punctua- will conduce CCDlUS at tbe earliest possible lity has not gone down in the last few date. SecondlY may I know wbether, OD the months but as a matt er of fact has shown basil of tbe cenaus, tbe allocation will be some improvement ~ hen compared to last made according to the potentialities of these year. Some demon~trarions have however resions? May I know ... bat is the reaction been reportt:d. of the Government? (c) No, SIr. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: The point is well taken lhat the census (d) Docs not arIse. However, the should be undertAken. We will take that punctuality of trains In being monitored and ioto coDSideration. I caDDot mue any swtable action is ta ken in cases of avoidable detentions. asaurance 00 that. ReprdJng the empha- lis placed by tho coDventioD reaardiog [Translation 1 PI'OIfAmmoa of pbysical education and apotU. Government bas taken all tbose Coastructioo of sbeds at PlatfOl'DlS OD tbiDp into consideratioD. In 1984 Railway Stations in Rajastllaa Ooveramem bas also adopted National *725. SHRI BANWARI LAL Policy 00 Sports &04 Physical Education. BAIRWA: Win the Minister of TRANS- Al tho same time. as can be ICeD, areater PORT be pleased to state: .UocatioD baa boeo made in tbe 7th Plan. .... 200 croros ..ve been g'\lcD for tile (b) whether Government propose to Vamsadbara Project THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (e) the reasons ror enuU8'iul rthe work drawinl the powers of the Chairman of the to private contractor. instead of tatlDl up Port Trust to aive loans to other ports; t~ work directly by the Hindultao Shipyard and Limited ; (b) if 10. the reaction of the Government (d) the number of private contractors thereto 1 who are 'in tbe regular rolls of the Hindustan Sbipyard Ltd. ; and THE MINISTeR OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL): Yes, Sir. (e) whether the Oil and Natural.Gas (C) (i) In the absence of assurance of Special Sports Schools for Cbildren drug laws and requested the State Health Ministers to take necessary steps in tbls ·736. SHRl V.S. KRISHNA IYER: regard. WiJl the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to atate : Cracks Noticed in Hlrakud DAM <8> the number of sports schools for *738. SHRIMATI JAVANTI PAT. children between 8 and 10 years of age in NAIK: Will the Minister of WATER tbe country; and RESOURCES be pleased to state: (b) if there is no such schoo). whether (a> whether Government are aware of Government propose to start such sports the cracks developed in Hirakud Dam; schools in each State to encourage sports amongst the children ? (b) whether Government of Orissa have sent a project report to Central Water THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Commission for repairs and filling up of DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS the cracks of Hirakud Dam ; AND SPORTS AND \VOMENS WELFARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) and (c) whether Government have examined (b). The Central Government has not set the report and taken steps to sanction funds up any sports schools nor is there a propo- for that purpose ; and sal to set up such schools. However, the required information about sports-schools (d) if so, tbe amount sanctioned for the set up by tbe State Governments and Union purpose ? Territory Administrations is being collected THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- and will be laid on tbe Table of the Sabha SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR.ANAND); in due course. (a) and (b). Yea, Sir. Appointment of Drua IDspecton (c) and (d). Tbe Central Water Com- .737. SHRI D.D. PATIL: Will tbe mission hal since examined the project Millister of HEALTH AND FAMILY proposals and have found them technically WELFARE be pleased to 5tate : acceptable. An outlay of Rs. 2.22 erores bas been provided by the State Government (a) whether it is a fact that as recom- for these works in the VII Plan. mended by tbe Centre the drug inspectors have not been appointed by the States and Separate Rail",., Zooe for Suburban Union Territories ; Section of Bombay (b) if so, \\-hat is the shortfall in ·739. SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH J appointments of drug inspectprs ; and SHRI S.O. GHOLAP : (c) what steps Government of India Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be have taken in this regard ? pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND (a) whether in order to givo more FAMILY WELEARE (SHRIMATI facilities to commuters of Bombay Suburban MOHSINA KIDWAI) : (a) Yes, Sir. SectioD, Government propose to have a separate Railway for Suburban SectioD (b) There is an over all shortfall of zooe of Bombay; J752 Dena Inspectors in the country. (b) if 10, tbe steps Governmeot propose (c) Letters have been addressed to tb. to take in tbis reprd : aDd State Health Ministers urging them to make aoocI dais shortfaU. In a recent ConfereDCe (c) if Dot, the reason. thereof? of S .... Health Minilters OD Food and Drugs _Jet oa 22nd February,. 1986, tbe Union THE MINISTER OP TRANSPORT Hoaltb YiDistet emphasised the neod to (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sit. appoint acleqaate number of field ltarr in order to eatare proper implementation of (b) Does Dot arise. 41 Writta AlUWr' CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (b) In Bombay area, the suburban Vessels Purchased froaa Central IDiand and DOD-suburban raIl way services to a Water Transport Corporatioa for great extent share the net work of track and ADdaman It "Nicobar other inrras,ructure. It is, therefore, 6893. SHRI MANORANJAN desirable to have them under an integrated BHAKTA: Will the Minister of TRANS- contro1. Thi, is achieved in tbe existing PORT be pleased to state : organisational set up in which suburban and non-suburban services of Western (a) whether in the Andaman and Railway are under the Bombay Division of Nicobar Islands a few water veuela which Western Railway and those of Central ha ve been purcbased from tbe Central Railway under the Bombay V.T. Division Inland Water Transport Corporation are not of Central Railway. This purpose would not in accordance with specifications and be achieved by baving a separate zone only guarantee period repairs are also not under .. for suburban service. in Bombay area. taken; (b) if so, What are the particulara of Assistance for Setting up of Training Centres those vessell, their defects and tbe reasens for Rehabilitation of Women in Distress for the builders not undertakina the auarantee period repairs : 6892. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI; (c) whether the Andaman and Nicobar Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Administration bas decided to band over the DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : newly constructed dry deck to Central Inland Water Transport CorPOration ; and (a) whether Government are providing assistance for setting up Trainina Centres (d) if so, the conditions thereof and for rehabilitation of women in distress and whether any objection bas been registered setting up of employment and income in this matter ? ,coerating Traininl-cum.Pcoduction Ceo tres THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE with the assistance from Norwegian Agency DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- for International Deveiopment ; PORT (SHRI RAJESB PILOT): (a> and (b). CIWTC have supplied one twin (b) if so, wbether Sikkim is receivinl screw Motor Tug to Andaman and Nicabar any assistance UDder the scheme ; and Administration at per contract specifications. Guarantee period repair centre around (c) if not, wbether Government have defects in one of the main engines which any plan to extend such assistance to this were supplied by GRS~ Calcutta~ The backward State ? matter for necessary repairs bas been taken up by ClWTC with GRSE for cxpeditiOUI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE disposal. As regards other guarantee period DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS defecu, CIWTC have requested barbear AND SPORTS AND WOMENS WELFARE master of the Andaman and Nicobar Admi- (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : (a) nistration to examine the possibilities of Yea, Sir. undertaking the repair work dopartmeDtaIly throuah local contractor at Port Blair and (b) No, Sir. send an estimate to CIWTC.. (c) Thore is no application from Sikkim (c) Yes. assistance can be provided on receipt of (d) The detailed terms and conditions completed applications ror assistance. of the transfer are being worked out. No AppUcations caD be sub mitted througb tbe objection so far have been received on dais Stato Government, by any Voluntary transfer in this Ministry. Orpoisatioo/Public UndenakioglCorpora- NOlI-Formal ad Fonaal C ...... tion/Autonomous Aaency under tbe Scheme ExcJasinly for Girls of auiltanco for aettina up Women's train- iDl oentresJ Institutes for rehabilitation of 6894, SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Womoo .. iD-Distres. and aettinl up of Em- SHRI CHINTAMANf lENA: ployment and Incomo GeacratiDa Training- Will the Minister of HUMAN 1RESOUilCE cum .. ProductioD Units. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: APRIL 17, 1986 WrltlM.,4.",.,.. 44 (a) tbe number of mixed Don-formal (8) jf so, steps beinl taken by Govern- cenues and tbe number of formal centres ment in this regard ? exclusively for girls which have been estab- lisbed in each State durio. the Sixth Five THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Year Plan uDder the centrally sponsored DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND schemes ; CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). In the context (b) the details of assistance beine given of Universalisation of Elementary Education by Government for the running of these for children of 9-14 age-sroup a Centrally centres ; Sponsored Scheme of alsistance to 0 educa .. (c) whether Government win consider tionally backward States namely, Andbra to continue this scheme during the Seventh Pradesh, Assam. Bihar. Jammu & Kashmir, Five Year Plan also ; Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal for setting up of (d) if so, the Dumber of centres likely non-formal centres on 50 : SO sbariDI basis to be opened in each State during the period has been in operation during tbe Sixth Five and particularly in the State of Gujarat ; Year Pla~. From 83-84 another component (e) wbetber Government will give of the scheme proyidiq 90 % assiatance to pref.coce to open such centres in the these States for setting up Don-formal centres adiYui areas ; exclusively for lirls has been added. (1) whether Government have received Financial assistance given to each State aD1 com plaiD t that tbe Central assistance under these schemes in the VI Plan is given i. DOt bciDS paid In time ; and asunder: Name of the State The number of Non-formal the The assistance givCD to States centres during Sixth durinl the Sixth Five Year Plan Fave Year Plan Mixed DOD- Non-formal educa- Mixed non·formal Non-formal formal educa- tioD centres exclu- education centres educatioD tion centres sively for girls 50 : 50 pattern) centres exclu- (SO : sa (90 : 10 pattern) sively for pattern) airls (90 : 10 pattern) 1 2 3 4 5 1. Andhra Pradesh 16,440 1,012 3,22,99,212 16,98,64 2. A-.m 16,146 1,000 1,62,97,902 21,83,25 3. Bihar 22,520 7,500 3,97,43,917 64,08,33 4. Jammu & Kashmir 1,835 60 26,21,134 1,64,56 S. Madhya Pradab 11,512 3,768 2.32,17,8'2 87,53.53 6. Oriaa 7,560 560 1,81,74,7(.0 13,00,95 7. Rajaltban 14,685 3,000 2,54,88,941 65,49,73 •• Uttar PndeIh 32.000 3,200 6,03,06,251 43,72,83 9.\\'...... 1 11,719 600 3,59,35,199 13,75,SO 1,41,417 20,700 25,40,85,108 3,28,07.62 45 Written AIUWIr' CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) Written AnnNr, 46 (c) and (d): The scheme bas been NatiouaUsatloa or Railway u.. continued in 85-86. Its contination in Owned by Private Manapmeot remaining period or the VII Plan is under consideration, The State of Oujarat is, 6895. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- however, not covered because it is not CHANDRAN: win the Minister of educationally backward and under tbe TRANSPORT be pleased to state: present scheme assistance can be given to only educationally backward State!. (a) whether any Railway 1ines are still owned by private manalement; ir so. (e) Yes. Sir. It is expected that States details thereof; wilt give preference to uncovered areas, which would ,eneraHy include adrvasi areas, (b) whether Goyernment have contracts in locating new non-formal education with each of the owner concerns for the centres. working of the said lines ; (f) and (g). While Central Government (c) whether all the private lines are makes all efforts to sanction funds under tbe running a t a profit; if so, the details of scheme to concerned State Government soon profit floss ; and after tbe proposals are received by it from the State Government, considerable deJay (d) whether there is any proposal to occured in 85.86 in release of funds ~cadse nationalise all such railway lines 1 continuation of scheme in VII Plan penod could not be provided upon in con!ultation 4 THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT with concerned government agencies. Steps (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. The are being taken to get approval for the foHo~ing 3 RaHway Lines, owned by scheme in time thi' year so tbat sirni'ar deJa)" Private Co;npanies, are worked by conti. does not occur this year. guous Indian Gcnemment Railway: Name of the Company Owned by Managing asents Worked by 1. Central Provinces Central Provices MIs. Killick Nixon Central Railway Railway Company Ltd. Industries Ltd. 2. Bankur·Damodar Bankura Damodar MIs. Me Leod and South Eastern River Railway River Railway Company Ltd. Railway Company Ltd. 3. Ahmedpur .. Katwa Ahmedpur Katwa MJs. Mc Leod and Eastern Railway Railway Railway Company Ltd. Company Ltd. (b) Yes, Sir. These privately owned (c) The details of worting losses incurred Railway Lines are worked by the Indian by the Indian Railways in operating these Railway as per the a.teement entered jnto railway lines for tbe last 5 years are tabu- between tbe owning companies and the Central Government. lated below : Name of tho Railway (Figures in lakbs of Its.) Working Losses 1980.81 81-82 82-83 83.84 14-8S 1. Central Provinces Railway 94.01 10) .01 115.80 114.83 163.43 2. BaDkura Darnodar River Railways 38.24 46.61 48.00 67,23 6$.49 3. Abmedpur-lCatwa Railway 17.00 23,.8 23.37 27.92 ~S.SS (d) No. Sir. 47 Writtell .4n.rw~r.s APRIL 17, 1986 Development of Veli Railway Station (b) if not, tbe reasons thereof? in Trfvand.... m District tHE DBPUTY MINISTER IN THE 6896. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Mblilter of TRANSPORT be pleased to (SHRI S. KRISHAN KUMAR): (8) aod state: (L: . On tbe basis of the recommendations made by the Drugs Technical Advisory Construction of Community Halls by (a) whether Government provjdes assis- RailV\ays tance to States/Union Territories to appoint Hindi Teacher~ in Secondary Schools to 6897. SHRI MANIK SANYAL -: Will teach HindI on 50:50 sharing basis; tbe Minister of TRANSPOR T be pleased to state : (b) jf S0, the names of the States/Union TerCitories which sought assistance for (a) the number of Community Halls appOintment of such teachers in the years whicb ba\'c been constructed by the Indian 1984-85 and 1985-86 and the number of such Railways-division-wise and tbe names of tcachers appointed during the said period ; places where such Halls have been cons- tructed : (c) the number of Hindi Teachers appointed in Orissa Sta te under the scheme (b) whether Government have any pro- durina tbe years 19~4--85 and 1985.. 86 ; posal to construct such Halls at other places also. (d) whether tbe Central share of salary of Hindi Teachers is released in time; and (c) if so, the action taken to implement the propoeal ; and (e) if not, the reasons thereof and tbe action taken by Union Government for (d) if Dot, t he reasons thereof 1 timely relea6e of the funds to State Govern- ments for payment to the Hindi Teachers 1 THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SBRI BANSI LAL): (a) to (d) The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE information is beiDl collected and wjll be DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND laid on the Table of the Sabha. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- T AGI): <8> to (e). The Department of EducaliOD in the Ministry or Human Re- ~.dmeat fa Drugs and Cosmetics Rules source Development continues to provide .. RecomtBeDded bJ Estimates alalltaDCC to Don-Hindi speakina Statesj COIIlIDittee Union Tee-calories for the appointment 01 6898. SHRI YASHWANTRAO Hindi teachers. The expenditure on the GADAKH PATIL: Wall the Mininer or salary of tbose teaebers is shared between HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be tbe Central OovernmCBt and tho State pIeaIed to state : Governmonta on a SO.SO basis: (a) WbeIhcr action has been taken to 2. The Sta.cajUaioo Territories wbJch amend Druaa and Cosmctica R uJea to iocor· lOuabt assistance for the appoiDtmoat or poraae"Good m&nufacturina practices" as Hindi teachers for 1984-8~ aDd 1985-86 aDd promiacd in reply to the rCCOlDOJcodation tbc Dumber of teacbers appoiolOd/proposod made by tbe Eatunales Committee in their to be appointed in these Unioa Territoriea. Si&tieCh report ; and i~ liven below: 49 W,lttna Answer, CHA}TRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written A1I8We17 SO planned to be provjded at the (ollowfng SI. Name o(non- No. of teachers station~ in Nortbern Railway during tbe year Hindi States I appointed/ No. J986-87 in view of the hardship to tbe Union Territories proposed to be peop!e and the demand for such amenities at which sought appointed duriog Kiratpur... Sirhind.Nangal Dam Section, financial assis- Hoshiarpur, lawa1amukhi Road, Ower. during tance Nandpur Bhatoli, Tripal, Lunsu, Barial on 1984-85 and the Kangra Valley Railway; 1985·86 1984-85 1985-86 (b) if so, the detans thereof including 392 392 1. Assam estimated expenditure ; and 2. Andbra Pradesh (c) if not, the reasons therefor and 3. Gujarat 26 detail.. of the passenger amenities to be provided in the year- 1986-87 in Delhi and 4. Orissa 75 7S Ferozepur Divisions of N ortbem Railway ? S. MeghaJaya 3S 30 THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT 6. Manipur ~o 50 (SHRI BANSI LAl) : (a) fo (c) The infor- 7. Mizoram 50 175 mation is beiDI collected aDO will be laid OD the Table of the Sabha. 8. Sikkim 110 Ban on Marketing of Comtinatioo of 9. NagaJand 30 EtofyJiae and Tbeopbyliae 10. Dadar and Nagar 6901. SHRI HARI KRISHNA Haveli 10 10 SHASTRI: Wi]j the Minister or HEALTH 11. Andc1man and AND FAMILY WELFARE be p1eaaed to N icobar Island 40 so state: (a) whether it is a fact that combination The teachers appointed/proposed to be of Etoryline and Theop) line is harmful ; appointed by the States/Union Territories shown above, include teachers for primary, (b) whether it is also a (liet that such a middle, secondary and senior secondary combination is being marketed in the country; classes/schools. 3. As regards parts (d) and (e), this (c) names of the products having such Ministry takes every care to release grant· combination of drugs beiDg mark'-ted in the country; and in-aid immediately On receipt of the demand from the concerned non-Hindi States/Union (d) whlt steps have been taken by TerritorIes alongwitb a statement or expen- Government to ban the marketing of such diture incurred/to be incurred and the num- combination of drugs h!ving adverse ber of teachers apPOinted/proposed to be effects ? appointed. If for some reasons payment to any State/Union Territory is not made THE DEPUTy MINISTER IN THB during a p.uticular financial Ye:lf the grant DBPARTME~T OF FAMILY WEFARE due to it is made available during the next (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): No, financial year after relevant documents! Sir. .. details are received in the Ministry. (b) Yes, Sir. Passenger Amenities of Kiratpur Sirhind- (C) As far information available tbis Nangal Dam Section and other ~{inisttY MIs. German Remedies market Ra iI"ay Stations on Kangra combination of Hydroxyethyl tbeophyUine Valley Railway. and TheopbyJine as ·'DeriphYllin". MIs. Pairdeat Corporation (Pvt.) Ltd, market 69tlO. PROF. NARAIN CHAND h~1inapbyllin'· and M's. Pablet! (India) Ltd. PARASHAR : Will tbe Minbter of TRANS ... market •• ReJasmin" containing EtophylJiDe PORT be plea!~ to state: and Theophylline in the country. (a) whether any passenger amenities aro (d) Docs Dot arJse. 51 Written h.rwen APRll. 17, 1986 Wrltt,n AlUWer" 52 DIIIeoJtIeI es)MII'ieDeM by Long Distance up on different National Highway. in the p ...... ia Mail and Express Trains country durin, tbe Seventh Plan are yet to 6902. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the be finalised. Miniater of TRANSPORT be pleased to Lo,s due to idle and Damaged Wagons state : Lying with various Companies wbether Government are aware that 6904. SHRI SRIBALLA V PANT- short distance passengers get into Express GRAHl: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT trains in reserved bogies from intermediate be pleased to state : ltations, causing inconvenience to long distallQ: passengers ; and (a) wbether Government have conducted any survey regarding the number of idle and (b) if so. steps taken to remedy the damaged wagons lying with various com- situation? panies together with the names thereof and THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT since when these wagons are lying with them; (SHRJ BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) To prevent entry of unauthorised (b) if so, the details thereof; passensers in reserved coaches, tbe steps taken include manning of reserved coaches (c) whether it has been ascertained that by Conductors/ITes and Coach Attendants there is some loss by Railways On acoount "ho have instructions to ensure that the of these wagons and, if so, the details there- of ; and doors of the coacbes are kept locked when die train is on tbe move and open the sa me (d) the steps Government have taken or lor tile passengers having reservation in these propose to take to remove these wa.ODS ? coaches "as and when required. They have alIo to CIlSute that the end doors of vesti- THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT buled uains are kept lotked between 22.00 (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No detailed hrs. and 06.00 hrs. survey is carried out but a watch is kept. Sbort distance passengers holdina (b) Does not arise. Monthly Season Tickets are debarred from travelling in reserved coaches and in they (c) While action to liquidate accumula. are detected travelling in such coaches, they tion of stock is initiated immediately, loss are liable to be fined. on its account is not worked out. Sdaeme for Repair and Improvement of (d) There is a regular system whereby NatioDal Hiabway. In Maharashtra surplus and/or damaged stock is removed from industrial sidings. 6903. SHRI R.M. BROVE: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Review of Existing MBBS CQrriculuDl state: 6905. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT- (a) whether Government of Mabaraatra NAIK: Will tbe Minister of HEALTH hal approached Union Ooyernment with a AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to scheme costiDg RI. 406 crores for repair and state: improvement of the existing National Hllb- waYI iD the State ; and (a) whether Union Government have reviewed the cxistiol MBDS curriculum in (b) if 10. the reaction of the Union consultation with the Indian Council of Ocwcmmeot thereto ? Medica) Re.earcb to give preference to the family welfare programme ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. (b) if so, the names of the medical PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) Yes, colJeaes in the country, Slate- wise wbere Sir. rhis coune has been introduced ? (b) Plan proposalJ received from diffe- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE rent Sta&es In rCII*C of wort. to be taken DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WBLFARE S3 Writtell Answerl CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAK..4) Wrltt.. A"",If' 54 (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and [EnglJsh] (b). The Medical Council of India which Is tho statutory body to maintain proper Clinics with It miooeeotelll Fad1it1e8 standards of medical education in the 6907. DR. G. VIJAY RAMA RAO : country bas already included the es~ential Will the Minister 'Of HEALTH AND elements of Family Welfare jn the MBBS FAMILY WELBARE be pleased to awe Course both in tbe traininl a~ well as during the eltimtlted number of c1ioica "here the compulsory rotating internship after Aminocentesis facility is available io rile passing the final MB BS Course. The Council country, State-wise ? reviews and revises its recommendations on undergraduate and Postgraduate Medical THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Education at regular intervals so as to meet DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WBLFARE tbe needs of the country. The curriculum (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): Informa. on Family Planning as incorporated in the tion regarding availability of Aminocenteais MBBS has been circulated to the Universities facility in Govt. institutions is beiDa collec- and the Medical Colleges inter-alia for ted and will be "laid on tbe Table of the compliance. Sa bha. Information regarding private clinics is not available. The Directorate Gencral of Health ClearaJlCe of Jurala Project Services and the Department of Family Welrare have been asked to review the 6908. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU : existing MBDS curriculum to see whether Will tbe Minister of WATER RESOURCES all aspects of Family Planning/Welfare are be pleased to state : included in the curriculum and if considered necessary, to request the Medical Council of (a) whether thero is any proposal pen_ India to effect changes in the M BBS ding with Government, sent by AndJlra Course. Pradesh GOftmment reprdiDI cIearaacc or the Jurala Project in Andhra Pradesh ; [Translation] and KamJa Canal ProjE'Ct (b) if so, the action lakeD by Govern- ment and the reasons for the delay for 6906. SHRI ABDUL KHANNA clearance '1 ANSARI : WIll the ~fjni5ter of WATER RESOURCES be pleased to refcr to the THE MINISTER OF WA TEIt RE- reply given to Un starred Question No. 3543 SOURCES (SHRI B SHANK A RAN AND) : dated 18 April, 1985 regarding eff~cts of (a) and (b). The updated project estimate Kamla River Dam in Nepal and Slate: of Jurala Project amounting to Rs. 191.80 crores has been received in tbe C.W.C.. OD (a)~whether Government of India have 31-3-1986 from the Govemmeot of Aadhra held any talks with Nepal Government in Pradesh and jl under examination. The regard to water problem created as a result Andhra Pradesh Government has yet to of construction of a barrage in the main Obf ain clearance to tbe projt.ct from environ. steam of Kamla Canal ; and mental ans1c and for reJeaae of fOl'Clt )aDds under tbe Forest Conservation Aa, 1980. (b) if so, the outcome of the talks held so far ., Saney of Natritioa Preanuate ...... THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- 6909. SHRI MURLIDHAR. MANE' SOURCES lSHRI B. SHAN KARAN AN D) : Will tbe Minister of HUMAN RBSOURcS (a) and (b). Nepal hat been requested to DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: supply the details of their barrage project Ca> whether it is a fact that a survey on Meanwhlle India has outlined the salient tNuuition Proaramme in Iodia' baa beeD features of a possiblo storage dam on the conducted bJ tbo World Bank ; river Kamla at Tataria Dear Chisapani in (b) 1(10. tbe outcome of ...uney ; Nepal to serve the interest. of both and countries. The matter is beiD, pursued furlhar. (c) the amoUJIt poposed to be 'PIII' by ~ 5S W"llm A,uK'~rJ APRlb 17, 1986 Wriltln AIUW~'" 56 the World Bank and Union Goveroment for out the effective medicine and vaccine for Nutrition Programme in tho Maharashtra this disease. State during tbe Seventh Plan? Doubling of Railway Tracks in Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE During Sixth Plan DEPARTMENTS OF yOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- 69J1. SHRI OURUDAS KAMAT I FARE (SHRIMATI MARGAREf ALVA): Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be (a) The World Bank has Dot done any pleased to state: , countrywide survey on Nutrition Program- mes in India. Ho\\,cvcr, a nli\1tcl m ~valua (a) the details of rail vtCiy tracks f hat tion of the World BaLIk-assisted Tamil Nadu were proposed to have been doubled in Integrated Nutritron Project was carried out Maharashtra during the Sixth Plan; and by the Department of Evaluation and (b) \\hether the works on those tracks Applied Research of the State Government. have been completed and if not, the reasons therefore? (b) The eva~uation showed that the nutrition status of chHdren improved in the THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT pilot block of tbe project !o con1pari~on with (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (d) and (b). Al- the control block. though no specific targets were fixed for the (e) The Seventh Plan includes an outlay Sixth Plan, the details of doublings raken of Rs. 50 crore. (RupeCi fifty eroles) for up and commissioned during Sixth Plan and Nutrition in the State Sector in Mabarashtra thereafter in Maharasbtra are as under: State. No amount is proposed to be spent by World Bank for nutrition programme in s. Section Kms. Kms. COm- Maharashtra. The Government of Maha- No. in missioned in rashtra has not submitted any proposal for Maha- VI VII Union Government's assistance under the rashtra Plan Plan CentralJy Sponsored Wheat-based supple- mentary nutrition programme. Under Bal. 1. Kasara·Igat- wadi Nutrition Programme (Non-Plan), 698 pUli (3rd line) 14 14 balwadis in Mabaroshtra get assistance from 2. Karjat-Lonavla Union Government through some national (3rd line) 29 20 9 level organisations. 3. Cbembur.. Man- Drugs to Control/Cure Aids khurd 3 3 6910. SHRI D.N. REDDY· Will the 4. Wirur-Sirpur Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Town 14 J3 I WELFARE be pleased to state: 5 ~1anikgarh- Wirur 18 18 (a) whether drugs to controljl..ure AIDS arc on their way and if so, detaiL> thereof; 6. Itarsi-Amla-- and Nagpur (Ph. I) 13 13 ltani-Amla- (b) whether Central Drug Research 7. Nagpur (Ph. 11) 4 Institpte, Lucknow or any other Institute proposes to undertake research 00 finding curatives for Al DS 'I S .. No. 1 to 6 have been fulJy commis- sioned and residual works only are in pro- THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ,rClS. S. No. 7 was approved only in DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE 1983.84 and work is in progress according (SHRf S. KRISHNA KUMAR); (a) and to avaiJabiJjty of lunds. (b). Acquired immuno deficiency syndrome RecogDHion of Unrecognised MedJcaJ (AIDS) ia a viral disease and as sUlh no Colleges curative treatment is yet available to treat this inspection However, research is in pro- 6912. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO. area in different parts of the ... orld to find THAMAN ; Will the Minister 01 HEALTH " " Written Answers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (S.4KA) Wrltlll1 Answers ~8 AND FAMILY WELFARB be pleased to (a) whether fruit juice troUies Bre aUow- state the action proposed to recognise un- ed at Delhi ju nction and othel" railway recognised Medical Colleges in the country ? stations; THE DEPUTY MIN1STER IN THE (b) tbe reasons for not alJowing this DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE facility at New Delhi Railway Station; and (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : According to the provisions of the Indian Medical (c) \\-hen this _facility \'till be made Council Act" 1956, the question of recogni- available at New Delhi RatlWay Station? tion of a medical quaiJfication granted by a university/medical institution is considered THS MTl\.;ISTER OF THANSPORT ooly on receipt of a request from the (SHRI BA~~I LAL) : (a) to \~). The Zonal concerned Institution. The grant of recogni- Rail\\ays allot trolleys or stalls for sale of tion would depend on the adequacy of the fruit juice at stations where there is adequate teaching and other facllitifs provided by dema nd. At Delhi, there are tv.-o such the medical college in accordance with the trolleys and 5 such stalJ~. At New Delhi btandards presc( ibed by the;: ",l~JlcAI station, 1}-'ere ale i fruit ju:ce 5t&.iis but no Council of - India. Action on these Hnes can trollc) s. 1'he existing factltty at New Delhi be taken if suc.h a reque"t is received from station 1S considered to be adequate. any medical college seeking recognition of {Translation) its medical qualifications. Posting of Orthopaedic Surgeons after Supply of Ms(hiue b) Ul'.[CEF for Government Training From Commonwealth Medical Store Depot. Madras l\ledical Fellowship 69J3. SHRI M. MAHALINOAM : 6915. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD Will the Minister of HEALTH AND RAWAT: \\'ilJ the Minister of HEALTH FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: AND FAMJLY \VELFARE be pleased to state : (a) whether 'United Nations Internatio- nal Children Emergency Fund' once agreed (a) whether ~ome Orthopaedic sergeon, to donate one automatic pouch fillIng of Deendayal Upadhyaya Hospital, New n1achine for augmenting the manufacture Delhi \\-'ere sent abroad for a few days for of Oral Rehydeation Salts in Government training uLder Commonwealth Medical Medical Store inpot, Madras; Fellowship; (b) if so, when this machine is expected (b) if so, whether they have come back to reach tbis depot ; and to thi!l country after completing their training; anJ (c) how many such machines have similarly been obtained from United Nath~ns (c) the names of hospital! \\here they International Children Emergency Fund? are to be p0'5t~d ? THE DEPUTY rvUNISfER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FA~IILY WELFARE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KU~1AR): (a) to (c). (SHRI S. KRISHNA K U~1A R): (a) Yes, One Orthopaedic SUrgeon from Deen Dayal Sir. Upadhyaya Hospital. New Delhi was nomi- (b) The proposal to procure tbe machine nated for one ye..lc·s Commonwealth Medical from the UNICEF" howo\er, did not Fellowship in U.K. He returned to India on materialise. 13 6 85 after training in the U aired Kingdom and was posted in Deen baY~1 L' padhyaya (c) No such machine has been obtained Hospjtal. from UNICEF for any of the Depots. (English1 PermIssion for fruit Juice Trollies at Refrigerated \YagoDs to Transport l\farine New Delhi Railway Station Fisb from COlIS tal Areas of KeraJa 6914. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI 6916. SHRI SURESH KURUP" \Vill KHAN : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT the Minister of TRANSPORT be pl~ed to be pleastd to state : state: S9 Wrlttell Answers APRIL 1" J986 W,ltt", AlUWlrl 60 (a) whetber JnOlan Railways arc opet'l'- nature and details of assiltance liven to ting refrigerated wagons to transport marine Oriss 1 under tho Centrally Sponsored fish from coastal areas to places in the Scheme for appointment of Women Tea- interior ; chen in Primary Schools duriDg tbe last two yearl? (b) ir so, the Dumber or wagons opera... ted daily; (c) whether such wagons are THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB operating to transport mar ine fish from the DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND coasts of Kerala ; and CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATOI): As Per approved scheme in (d) if not, the re::!copc; th~reof ? operation for nine educationally backward THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT States tbe Central Government have pro.. (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. vided 800/0 assistance to the State Govern. ment of Onssa for appointment of wom~n (b) to (d). Do not arise. teachers in primary schools during the last 2 years, i e.. 1984·85 and 1985-86. The Adult EduMltion CMtrt'1i FUn<'tioning balance ;O (b) \\'hat is the performance of the~e Chartering Syatems of Container Vessels centres ? 6919. SHRI H.N. NANDS GOWDA I THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND to state : CULTURE (SHRlMATI SUSHILA ROH- (8) whether the charterinl system of TAGI): (a) 110346 adult education centres container vessels char. ered by Snipping were functioning under the RuraJ:Functional Corp.nation of lndi~ envisages l;me-cbarter- Literacy Programme in quarter ending cum-~ale basis or othuwise ; and December, 1985. (b) whett efforts are being made to (b) The Scheme of Rural Functional obtain rceder vessels ",itb contaIners 10 Literacy Programme since its inceJ)tion has improve 'he coastal trade "I played a key roJe in the implementation and strengthening of Adult Education Pro. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gramme. The Scbenle has enabled subs- DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- tantiany to create a n..:twork of Adult PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (8) The Education Centres in the cural areas. It cont1iner vessels are t1ken by SCI only on bas attracted a brge number of women, time-charttr basifi. Scheduled Castes and Scheduled TrIbes as (b) SCI has set up a network of feeder its beneficiaries. The Dumber of women, services on tbe Indian coasl and it is SC and ST beneficiaries enrolled respective1y, po~slb'e to mo\e containers be'ween any 18,4S.591, 8,05,622. 4.6 .909 representing two IndJan Port! tbrouab this nctwork. A S6.4t;~" 14.1~,~ 24.6% and of tbe total feeder service 00 a fifteen days frequency cnrol1ed. with cellular c~tajccr sbips is beioa oPera- rrgularly Centrally Spoosord Scheme ~or Appointment ted by the SCI. of WOIMD Tcadaeci in Primary Scbooh PermluJoo for la)log water pipeline Ibroap orOffs a Railway laad ID AaaDlOI 6918. SItRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: 69lO. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will tho WiD tho '4inister of HUMAN RESOURCE Minister of TRANSPORT be pJoued to DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state tbe atate: CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) <8> whether tbe Railway administration (b) if so, tbe names of tbe places where at Asansol refused to give permission to tbese are to be located ? the Municipal authorities for laying out water pipline through their land for water THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE supply to the people cesidlDg in northern DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS, SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFARE part of the tOWD, j .c. on the other side of (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) No, the Railway line; and Sir. (b) jf so, the rca~ons therefor? (b) Does Dot arise. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Illegal trade in Antiques 6921. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : (c) the action Government propose to Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be take against such companies/persons; pleased to state: and (8) the number of casC5 ovel the value (d) whether t here have been any instances of Rs. 500 loss found during inspection of where such personc; were arrested and Stores Depots in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and antiques recovered 1 Rajasthan; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (b) number of persons against wbom DEPART~fENTS OF EDUCATION AND action was taken ; CULTURE (SHRJMATI SUSHILA ROR. TAGH: (a) 28 such ca!es have come to (c) time taken to enquire ioto tbe cases tbe notice of Government. against the guilty persons; and (b) 91 indiViduals and 10 firms/com- (d) the number cf persons found guilty panies were found involved in this illegal and details of action taken alainst them '? trade. THE MI~ISTER OF TRANSPORT (c) Cases have ~een invest:gated and (SHRI BANS} LAL): (a) to (d). The those aga inst whom evidence was available information is heina collected and will be have been cbarge sheeted. laid on tbe Table of the Sabba. (d) Yes, Sir. [English) Up~eep and !\fainteaaDCe of MOIIIIIIIeDta Proposal for EstabUsbment of Youth Hostels in Delhi on Sea Shore in \Vest Bengal 6924. SHRI lAI PRAKASH 6922. DR. PHULRENU GljHA ; \\iH AGARWAL: \Vill tbe ~linister of HUM!\N the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: to state: (a) whether there is an) proposal with (a) the amount spent by Government the Union Government to establish Youth for the upkeep and maintenance of monu- Hostels on tbe lea sbore of West Bengal ; nlents in Delhi protected by the Ccutral aDd Government; 63 Wrill~n Answers APRIL 17, 1986 (b) the average number of visitors and (c) No, S;r. Lfowever, under Nationa) the revenue earned from : Service Scheme educational institutioDs have been taking part in the worle of general (i) Entry tickets, clearance of .he surroundinls of monuments. (ii) renting of shops for eating, guide maps and books, and Steps to Reduce Illiteracy Amongest Scheduled Castes of l\fadhya Pradesh (iii) cycle, car parking and otber mis- cellaneous sources; and 6925. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI: WiJI the Mini~ter of HUMAN RESOURCE (c) whether public men!non.offi~ials . are DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: associated with management, beaut1ficatton, removal of encroachments, raj~ing s~urces (a) whether the rate of literacy amoog etc. of these historical mODu;nents and If so. Scheduled Castes in Madhya Pradesh is the details thereof? much below the national avcrase ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the rea~ons therefor: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (c) the steps taken to spread education CULTURE (SARIMATI SUSHILA ROH- among Scheduled Castes people and reduce TAGI): (a) The amount spent during the the rate of illiteracy among them; and last three years on the structural ma~nten. ancc, chemical preservation and malOten- (d) the details thereef? '\Dee of gardens of the Centrally protected -onumenfs in Delhi is given below: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 1983-84 Rs. 20.24.865 CULTURE (SHRIMATJ SUSHILA ROH- 1984·85 Rs. 23,90,322 TAGl): (a) Yes, Sir. According to 1981 Cenliiu" the rate of literacy among Sebeduled 1985.86 Rs. 47t~2.9 .. 9 Castec; in Madhya Pradesh is 18.97 per cent (approximately ) which though ahead of four other States, (b) On the basis of sale of admission is lower than the national average of 21,83 tickets during the last three year~, the pee cent. average an Quat number of vi~itors above (b) Rcac;ons for low rates literacy the age of 15 years at the following monu- or inclUde, inter·alia prevailing socio.economic ment~, where entry fel! is charged, wa'> as conditions, Inwer rates of enrolment in indicated below : school~ in compari~on with other Sta.es and Red Fort 13, JO,OI6 bigh dron-out rates at the Primary and middle states. Sardarjung Tomb 5(1,323 Humayuo·s Tomb 1,50,570 (c) and (d): Government have made ~pecial efforts to spread education amoDg (.) The revenue collected feom the sale Scheduled Ca~tes and reduce the rate of of admission tickets during the la!t illiteracy "hich include the fonowina three years was as foUows : measures: Red Fort RI\. 27,90,024 (i) Coverage on priority basis of Safdarjung Tomb R'i. 65,483 di~lrich havin, literacy ratc.t below Humayun's Tomb Rs. 4,25,856 national averaae ; (ii) The Arcbaeo!Jg·cal Survey of India (ii) enrolment of weaker sections of the has not renled out sbops for eating society. State Government ba~c at monument') in Delhi. The depart .. beeD advised to ensure that at mental "uhltca(jnn~ arf! ~ryld by the least SO~~ of the learoers enrolled ~ Irvey itseJr. 8re women. 30')(, Scheduled Castel and 16% Scheduled Tribe. (ijj) No revenue is e'lrned fcom cycle/ (Iii) priority to openiu, of aduJt educa. car parking etc. tion centres in twal, backwud and CHAITRA 27, 1908 (StiKA) Written ~.# 66 tribal areas and location of sucb (a) Whether Betbampur University, centres in bast is of Scheduled Orissa, has submitted a proposal for establish- Castes/Scheduled Tribes as far as ing a Women'a Development Centre; and possible. (b) if so, Government's reaction thereto 7 (iv) emphasis on post-literacy and fo)low·up to ensure that neolite- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rates retain and use the literacy DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AEFAIR skilJs and do not lapse into AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- iUeteracy ; FARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) (a) : No, Sir. (v) provision of Central assistance by Government of India to States (b) The question does not arise. under tbe Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Rural Functional Lite- [Translation] racy Project. assistance to voluntary Non-detention of Students Upto 8th Class organisations, post-literacy and continuing education programmes, 6927. SHRl VILAS MUTTEMWAR: and establishment of Shramik Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCB Vidyapeeths ; DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (vi) the Central Government also pro- (a) whether it is a fact that Union vides assistance on 50 : 50 sharing Government have advised the State Govern- basis to the 9 educationally back- ments not to declare any student unsuccessful ward states for organising 000- upto 8th class ; formal education programmes in the age-group 9-14 and on 90: to (b) the reaction or each of the State sharing basis for non-formal educa- Governments thereto ; tion programmes exclusively for girls. (c) whether the standard of education is hkely of fall further as a result thereof; aDd (vii) The University Grants Commission also provides financial assistance to (d) if so, the steps being taken by universities/colleges to ;nvolve G.:>'yernment to ensure that the standard of students in programmes for removal education d.Jes Dot fall? of il1iteracy. THE ~nNISTER OF STATE IN THB Programmes of functional literacy will DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND be pursued in the Seventh Pian with objec- CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA tive of covering aU illiterates by 1990. Tne ROHG ATl) : (a) and (b). In tho context of major thrust areas include development of universa1isation of elementary education continuing adult education~ post.literacy States uri have been advised to foUow a and folJow-up programme, effective linkages no-detention policy upto class VUI, subject to with related development programmes parti. regular evaluation and remedial measures. cularly poverty alleviation, rural development Tbis is being followed by different States and fam\\y welfare programmes; larger upto different levels. A statement, based involvement of voluntary agencies, Nehru on the cbe;klist received from StateS for the Yuvak Kendras, National Service Scheme Annual Ptlln discussions 1986-87, iDdicatina and launching of a mass programme for the stage upto which no detentioD policy is functional literacy. A programme to involve beiog followed in the various States is aivon approximately 3 l:lkh college students and below. NSS volunteers in functional literacy is being launched during the forthcoming (c) and (d). Being apprehensive of such sammer vocation. a consequence, NCBKT. in its curriculum frameworks (1915 and 1986), has stroql, Proposal to set up 'Vomen's Delelopment recommended to make CODtiDuiq evaluation Centre fa Derllampur Vnh'ersity an integral part of educarioD_ It has further 6926. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : WiJl recommended tbat evaluation should DOt be the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE confined to ooly scbool subjects, i.e. CGpi- DBVELOPMENT be ploaacd to state : tivo areas but also CDCOIDPISI dcvcloplDCDt 01 APRIL 17, 1986 Writt." .41UW." 68 the child in DOD-coanitive areas. Tho maiD 24. Arunachal objective or lOCh an evaluation is to diag- Pradesh class VIII noeethe difBculties of children and use re- 2S. Cbandigarb c1asa IV· medial measures to help the child improve bis pro&ress day-by-day. Therefore, varieties 26. Dadra 4 Nagar of techniques such aa observatiolll. paper- Haveli) clasa II pencil tests and anecdotal records, check- 27. DeIhl No lists, ratio, scales, etc. have been recommen- ded along vith keepinl uptodate cumulative 28. Goa, Daman and records to show growth chart of tbe child. Diu standard I Thil, it is believed, will help to ensure that 29. Lakshadweep Not available the standard of education does not fall. 39. Mizoram Not yet considered. STATEMENT 31. pondicherry standard II Source :-Check lilts for 1986.. 87 No detention policy 81. Stat.JUTS *Cbeck list for 1985-86 No. followed upto EspaDSioo aDd repairs of Railway 1. Andhra Pradesh class VII Stations in U.P. 2. Assam class I. The State 6928. SHRI RAJ KARAN SINGH: Govt. is consider- Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be illl to extend it pleased to state : upto class IV (a) whether Central Government have 3. Bihar class V under consideration a scheme to expand and repair some Railway Stations In Uttar 4. Gujarat cJus II Pradesh; S. Haryana class II (b) jf so, whether Musafirkhanas at 6. Himachal Pradesh No Sultanpur, Haldwani and Kotdwar stations have also been included in tbis scheme; 7. Jammu &: Kashmir No Cc) the time by which this scheme is 8. Karnataka class II likely to be implemented ; and 9. Kuala standard I (d) if not, tbe rcasoDl therefor? 10. Madhya pradesh class II THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT 11. Mabarashtra class 11 (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) to (d). There is no combined scheme for expansion of railway 12. Manipur Not available stations in Uttar Pradesh as such. Expansion of individual station is taken up on program- 13. Meabala,a No med basil depending upon traflic require- 14. Napland considered upto class ments, comparative Deeds of various stations IV level and avaiJability of fUDds. Repairs is a 15. Orissa clus II continuous process. Musotlrkbanas (waiting halls) and waitiog rooms are already 16. Punjab No available at Sultan pur. HaJdwani and 17. Rajuthan class III Kotdwar stations. There is no prOpOSal (or expansion of tbese stations at prescnt 18. Sitkim upto class V is under as the available facilities are considered consider ation adequate ror the present level of passeDlcr traffic. 19. Tamil Nadu cIa .. III 20. Tripura clus III [English] Suney or Khurda Road.Bolaallr RaJI Line 21. Uttar Pradesh class III 6929. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL : 22. Weat BeaaaI classy· Will the Minister or TRANSPORT be 23. A and N I"." c1usU ploued to state , 69 Written AlIIWe" CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SA.E'A) Wrl~1II ~.." 70 (a) whether the taraet dato for the (c) it Dot, fOUODl tlaereof? completion or the survey work of Khurda Road-Bolangir rail line is 31 December, THB MINISTER OP STATB iN THB 1986 ; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURB (SHRIMTI SUSHlLA (b) if so, the progress made in the ROHTAGI): (a)A ltatement is aiveo below. completion of the survey work so far ; (b) Ya, Sir. (c) whether the survey can be completed within the target date jf the work continues (c) Does not arise. a t the present rate ; and STATE MBNT (d) if not the steps taken to expedite the survey work ? Name 01 State/UT Number gf Shramik Vidyapeetbs THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT fanctiODiDc (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) The survey is Assam expected to be completed in 1986-87. 1. 1 2. Andhra Pradesh 4 (b) The progress upto March, 1986 is 71%. 3. Bihar 2 (c) Ycs, Sir. 4. Chandiprb (UT) 1 S. Delhi (UT) 1 (c) Does Dot arisc. 6. Gujarat 3 Doubling of Panskara-Haldla Railway 7. Haryaoa 1 Line in S.E. Railway 8. Jammu cI Kashmir 1 6930. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: 9. Kerala Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 10. Karnataka 2 II. Maharastra 3 (a) whether there is any proposal under the consideration of Government for the 12. ~fadhy. Pradesh 1 dOubling of Panskura-Haldia Railway line 13. Orissa 2 the South Eastern Railway ; 14. Uttar Pradesb 2 (b) if so, the details thereof; and 15. Rajasthan 4 (c) if Dot, the reaSODa therefor? 16. Tamil Nadu 3 THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT 17. West Bengal 2 (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No, Sir. Presemttion of DeBar. Heritale (b) Does not arise. (c) For augmentation of section capacity 6932. SHRI KAMAL NATH: WiD on tbi. section, Jine capacity works ha ve been the Minister of HUMAN RBSOUIlCE undertaken. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : Shramik Vldyapeetbs (a) whether it is • fact that a lune), has shown that there is lack of care in the 6931. DR. K.O. ADIYODI : Will the preservation of Delhi·s beritaae of UDi«:OI- Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE nised lapd-marks ; and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (b) if 80, tbe steps take to briDI ill (a) tilt Dumber of Shramik Vidyapeeths some improvement in thi. reprd 'I rUDctionins in the COUD~ State-wise; THB MINISTER OP STATE IN THB (b) whether thors i. any proposal to DBPAKTMSNTS OF BDUCAnoN AND open Shramik Vidyapceths at Calicut aDd CULTURB (SHlUMATI SUSBILA other cities iD Kerala • aDd ROHTAOI): (al No systematic suney or APRIL 17, 1986 Wrltfm AIISWI'I 72 unprotected monuments in Delhi has been (8) the names and number of places of undertaken either by the Archaeological archaeological importance which are pro- Survey of India or by the Department of tected in Patna ; and Archaeology, Delhi Ad~inistration. (b) the expenses incurred for their (b) Does not arise. upkeep? Scbedoled Tribe Employees in IDdian Railways THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6933. SHRl SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be CULTURE (SHR}MATI SUSHILA ROH- pleased to state : TAGI): (a) The places of archaeological (a) the total number and percentage of importance in Patna which are centrally non-gazetted Itaff belonging to Scheduled protected are ; Tribes compared to tbe total number on 1. The grove known as "Balandi Indian Railways ; Bagh" at Bulandipur. (b) what action in being taken to bring 2. The mound or stupa known as up to the d~red percentage for Scheduled "Ch:toti Pabati" at Chhoti Tribes; and Pahari. (c) whether it is a fact that relaxation in reservation for non-gazetted staff' which 3. Supposed site Palace of the Asoka was obtaining earlier even for safety catego- at Kumrabar. ries has been removed ; if so, when and the 4. Mir Ashraf's Juma Mosque includ- reasons therefor ? ing Ablution tank and Pucca weH THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT at Patna. (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) the total number (b) The expendi ture incurred towards of non-gazetted staff and percentage of their upkeep during the last five years is Scheduled Tribes among them as on 31.3.85 Rs. 3,94,184. on the Indian Railways are as under :- Total Number 15.91 lakhs Compulsory use of Helmet by Pillion Riders Number of Scheduled 0.73 lakh Tribes 6935. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the Percentage of 4.6 Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Scheduled Tribe! state: (b) Railway Recruitment Board's have (a) whether the proposal to introduce been up in tribal areas like Rancbi, Gauhati compulsory use of helmet by the pillion and Ajmer to attract Scheduled Tribe candi- rider on two wheelers in the Capital is pend- dates in Railway Services. ing since long; (c) Certain categories ot Group C and (b) whether Government are aware that D posts have been categorised as S~fety a large number of pillion riders are kjJJed Catelories. For prom()tion to these posts, every year due to accidents; and . no relaxation in qualifying marks was allowed either earlier or now to Scheduled (c) the time by which the compulsory Caste/Scheduled Tribe candidates in the use of helmets by the pillion riders is interest of sate running of trains. Relaxation proposed to be enforced ? allowed (in 1968) to Scheduled Caste! THE MINISTER OF STArE IN THE Scheduled Tribe candidates in other than DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. safety catesories has DOt been withdrawn. PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) Delhi Upkeep or Places 01 Archaeological Administration have intimated that no such ImportaDee in Patna proposal is under their consideratioD. 6934. SHRI CP. THAKUR: WilJ tbe (b) A. per records of Delbi TraJlic Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- Police, in the year 1985, 871 two.wheelers LOPMENT be pleased to state: were involved in accidents [oaullin, in 81 73 Wrltt." AnIw", CBAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Wrlttell Answm 14 deaths aDd injuries to 808 persons and in (c) whether n passenger traiD is proposed 1986 upto 31.3.1986, 256 accidents took to be introduced between India and Bangla- place in Delhi in which 15 persons were desh in the near future ; and killed and 238 were injured. No separate data as available to indicate deaths of pillion (d) if so, the details thereof? riders. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (c) In view of answer (a) above the (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No, Sir. question does not arise. (b) Does not arise. Rail Overbridge at Sabarmatf (Gujarat) (c) No, Sir. 6936. SURI 0.1. PATEL: Will th~ (d) Does not arise. Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Road over-bridge on Railway Track neal Kalpaaa Jaodion Raj Dba"an (a) whether Government are aware of Road (8bobneswar) aCL tc difficulties felt by the public and iodustr:es at Sabarmati and Ranip for want 6938. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- of a rail overbridge at Sabarmati near GRAHl: Will the Minister of TRANS. Ahmedabad in Gujarat States; POR T be pleased to state : (b) if so, whether Government propose (a) whether Union Government are to prov ide such an overbridge ; and aware that due to beavy traffic the road (c) the time by which the difficulties of from Ka)pana Junction to Raj Dbawan at the people of this area will be solved by Bhubaneswar is beina converted into double providing an over bridge ? laning ; THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (b) whether the State Government of (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) to (c). There Orissa have requested for another road have been representations for provibion of ovelbridge over the railway track near tbis of a foot-over brIdge at Sabarmati/Ranip road; for use by the genera) public to cross the Railway tracks. As per extant rules, pro- (c) if so, what will be its cost; and posals in this regard are required to be sponsored by the concerned States Govern- (d) whether the railway department has ment/Local Authority with an undertaking sanctioned the same? to bear the entire initial cost. Railways on THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT their part waive the supervision and bear (SHRI BANS! LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. the maintenance cbarges. Construction of this footover bridge would depend upon (b) Yes, Sir. spOnsoring of proposal by tbe States Government or Local Authority on tbis (c) Rs. 27.96 lakhs (approximately) basis. (d) Railway is undertaking this work at the request of Orissa State Government Passenger Train between Iodia aDd Bana1adesh and they have deposited the cost with tho 6937. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : Railways. Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be [ Trans/alioll] pleased to state: Linking of Kbajurao with Bombay by air (a) whether Government of Bangla- desb have made a proposal to open aod old 6939. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHUIlIA: and pre-Independence B.D. Railway by Win tho Minister of TRNSPORT be pIeaaed connecting SiUguri and Sea1dah via Haldibari, to state: Chiliahati and Darshan Gade ; <8> whother Government have lIDCfe&- (b) if so, the details thereof aDd whether COnSideration any proposal to link Khajurao Government of India have approved it ; with Bombay by air service ; 75 Wrt.,." A.uwen APRIL IV. IN6 (b) if 10, the time by which it will be (a) whether a uait ot Rail•• y CooItruc- implomentod ; liOD Oraanisation il at present functiODiD, at (c) whether Madhya Pradesh GoverD- Trivandrum; meat bas made aDYSUggestioD in this regard; (b) if so, lince wheo it is fUDctiODin, and there; aod (d) if 50, action beI III taken by the (c) wbether there i. a proposal to wind Union Government thercon ? up tbat unit 1 THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION THB MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (a) (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) I (8) No, (SHRI BANSJ LAL): Yes, Sir. Sir. (b) Since, 1972. (b) Does nOi arise. (c) There is no proposal to wind up this (c) No, Sir, No sucb request hu beco unit at present. received in the recent past. [Translation] (d) Does Dot arise. Deaths Dee to Sterilisation Operation [Ellglbh] TbroogIa LeproIeopic Metbod Delay III CIearaDce or Irrlptioa Projects 6942. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDBY: 6940. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Will the Minister of HEALTH AND PATIL: Will the Minister of WATER FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: RESO URCES be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware of (a) whether it is a f~ct tbat a Study the reportl rrom various parts of the country Group appointed by the Central GOVCllllDrnt regardinl deaths o( women due to sterilisa- to examine the question of timely clearances tion operation dODe through Jeproscoplc of irription projects of the various States method or its ill.:effect ; aDd bas lubmitted its report to the Goveroment~ reduciDl tbe time for clearances of tbe (b) if so. what .teps Union Govern- projoccs by Central Government; aDd ment have taken and are contemptatin, to take includiol effective improvement in the (b) if so, salient features tbercof? method so as to ensure no setback to the THB MINISTER. OF WATER RE- family planniDI proaramme ? SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANK.ARANAND): THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) and (b). Tbe Sub-Group constituted to DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE coosider the time required for examination (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and of projects baa. intor-alia, suuctted, annual (b). After sterilization operation iocludini review meetings between the of6:ers of tbe laparoscopy, compJicalioos somccimes arise. Centra' Water Commissioo and the States In rare cues. deaths also occur. The to fix uP inter Ie prioridea; coordioatina Statesl Union Territories are constand, arranJelDCDtI between the CeDtral Water advised to improve tbe quality of teclmJcaI CommiuioD and other orpajsatiOD! COD- services and follow up care of the operated cemed at the Centre; tbe return to the cues. Datailed auidellnes for cooductiDi States of projects, wbich do Dol conform laparoscopic lterUizatioD ba ye also bcea 10 tbe pracribed luideliDCS after a pre- circulated to tbe States. limioary aamioatloa in Ccotral Water COmaaksiOil ; and setlln. up Suitable machi- PrOl8OtJoa 01 Sporta la Uttar P ...... necy in t.be SUlCI for tecbno·ecooomic examiuatiOD before refcrtiDl the projectl to 6943. SHill HAlUSH RAWAT: Will tho Caatre, etc. Ihe Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Val, of ....., CoutnrdJoa ()rpaiIadoa DEVELOPMENT be pleased to ••ato: at TriYIIIIdna (a) tbe lotal amoDDt .hal to Uttar 6941. SHIU A. CHARLPS: Will the Pradesh durio, the Jut three yean. ,.,- MiDiItcr of TRANSPORT be pltUed to wile to pr()JDOle lporta aod th. .mouet ..... : proposed to be .pat duJ'iaa 1916.. &7; 77 "rill." AIIIWII" CHAITR.A 27, 1908 (S~) Wrlnn .4nIwn 78 (b) whether it is • fact that there is ( E",lilll] lI'eat dUfereace in tile per capita perceDtap of amouat beiDg SpeDt 10 "rious States (or TtaD8pOI1atioa of Foodgraias from Haryaas.ad PlIDjab promotion of sports; 6944. SHRI CHARANJIT SINGH (c) if so, whether percentage of amount WALIA: Will the Minister of TRANS- beiDg lpent 00 sports iD Uttar Pradesh is PORT be pleased to state : less as compared to other States ; and Ca) whether tbe Railways at present have (d) if 10, tbe steps 'proposed to be taken adequate capacity to transport foodgraina by GoverDm~t to bridge tbis gap during from Punjab and Haryana in view of the Seventh Five Year Plan? enhanced production of foodgrains there; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether it is a tact that tbe quantity DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS of foodgrains DOW to be transported is AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFAR.E about lOS lakh tonnes per annum ; and (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA}: (a) to (d). Sports is a State subject under tbe (c) if so, the measures proposed to Constitution of India. It is, therefore, augment the railway capacity for transporta- essentially for the State Governments to tion of roodarains from this region? allocate adequate funda for tbe promotion of sports. However, with THE MINISTER OP TRANSpORT a view to supplementing the efforts (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. of the State Governments, Granta- in-aid are made available to State (b) Yes, Sir. Sports Councils etc. through the State Governments under the SCheme of Grants (c) No difficulty is anticipated ill clearing to State Sports Councils, for development this traffic. of Sports and Games. The amount of grants released depends on valid proposals CIOlbig Dowo of Sllippilag Dneloplaeat made by the different State Governments Fond CoIDmIttee and no quotas are fixed on the basis of 6945. Will the Minister of TRANS- population of States foc otherwise. The PORT be pleased to state : question of per capita percentage therefore, does not arise. (a) whether Government are considering a proposal to close down the Sbippina The following arants were made avai- Development Fund Committee ; lable under the scbeme for projects in Uttar Pradesb on proposals received froUl tbe (b) if so, the reasons therefore; State Government : 1983-84 Rs.5,48,725/- (c) whether Go.ermnent have also received proposals for its continuaoce; 1984-85 Rs. 5,07,800/- (d) if so. the details thereof; 1985.86 Rs. 20,45,5001- (e) whether Government are aware that Additionally. in 1985-86 under the closing down of SDFC will effect the private Department·s new scheme of layinl of syn- shipping industry and its virtual closur and thetic trac.b and ani8cial turf., a araot of SlOP further development ; and Rs. 44 laths was separately sanctioned for laying of a syntbetic turf for a hockey field (J) if 10, remedial steps contemplated by in Lucknow. Government. It is upto the State Government tf.) take THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB the initiative and make proposals admissible DSPARTMBNT OF SURFACE TRANS- under the schemes. 10 as to take tull adYaD- PORT (SHill RAJBSH PILOT) : (a) to (f). tale or them durina the Seventh Five Year Matter is under conskhration of Gocrn. PJan. 1DODt. APRIL 17, 1986 Wrltt. AIUW.,., 80 [Tralls/aliD"] THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE D1!PARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- Construction of Food over-bridge on POR T (SHRI RAJI!SH PILOT) : cases of sophisticated ships even ForeigD Collaboration witll CoclliD import of material package. il Shipyards (or Building of Ships fa vourabJy considered. 6951. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA Ci v) Developmental assi.tance to certain SINHA: Will tbe Minister of TRA1\SPORT categories of ancillary industry is be pleased to state : also considered for certain selccted (a) whether any collaboration has been items. made between the Cochin Shipyards Limited, (v) Provision has been made in the 7th Cochin and some foreign collaborator to Five Year Plan for creation of a build certain kinds or shipS in that lIlip- National Ship Desip &I Relearch yard; and Centre for development of illdiaeno- (b) if so, the details thereof? us design and other related funda- mental research in tb. related field. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- Advene effects of Combination of PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : (a) Yes. Drugi with Ergot (b) Cochin Shioyard Limited, Cochin 6950. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR.: WiJl has entered into an agreement with I.H.I., the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Japan for supply of Design/Drawings of WELFARE be pleased to state : 86,000 DWT LR II Type Crude Oil Tankers. Sanction has been accorded for conclusion (b) The Study Team held consultations manner in all States during the Seventh with tbe officials of tbe Ministry of Health Plan period to cover 100% of prepaDt and Family Welfare, Department or Econo- women with Tetanus Toxoid VaCCination and mic Affairs, New Delhi and the Heal tb 85% of all eliaibJe infants witb DPT, POlio, Department of the Government of Uttar BCG and Measles vaccination. Measles Pradesh and the Institiute. The Study Team vaccination has been included in tho pro.. was apprised of the financial requirements gramme during 1985-8". The Universal regarding supply of medical and other Immunization Programme was started in 30 equipment for the Institute through a selected districts and catchment areas of 50 Japanese GraDt Aid. Besides equipment, Medical Colleges during 1985-86. In Oujarat Technical Assistance for the Project was also State Kheda and Bharuch districts were sought. Another team, as a sequal to the taken under Universal Immunization Pro- first Mission, is currently visiting India to gramme during 1985-86. conduct Basic Design Study (Phase II) of the Project. According to present indications Rule. for Compulsory Donation of available, the final report of the Japan Inter- Eyes after Deatb national Cooperation Agency would be made available to Government of India 6954. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will around August, 1986. Commitment from the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Japanese side would be known after the WELFARE be pleased to state : Final Repon. (a) outlay proposed in the Seventh Plan 6955. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTER- for immunjsation programme in the country ; JEE : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (b) whether the immunisation programme in Gujarat is being leared up with a view to (a) whether there are ad.. hoc employees push up Family Welfare Programme ; and in the various office. of Shippiag Corpora- tion of India ; (c) if so, the details of immunisation programme to be taken up ? (b) if so, whether the terms and condi- tions of their service are different from thoae THB DEPUTy MINISTER IN THE of tbe regular employees. although they DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE discharge similar duties ; (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Maoufacturlag of quality Drop altaid DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. down by W.H.O. . PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) and (b). There are DO ad-boc employees in the various 6957. SHRI ~ISHNU MODI: Win the offices of Shipping Corporation. of India. Minister ofcfEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- aoweverll there are some employees in the FARE be pleased to state : various offices of SCI who are pa ld ad hoc emoluments which are different than the (a) whether it is a fact that World emoluments paid to tho reauJar employees. Health Organisation bas laid down good practices in the manufacture and quality (c) and (d). The Industrial Tribunal 'of control of drugs ; Maharasbtra bas given an award in favour (b) if so, the details thereof; of tbe employees who are appointed on ad hoc emoluments basis by the SCI. The (c) whether these practices are being actioD to implement the award cao be taken adopted by drug manufacturing companies by tbe SCI only after the legal view with in our country; and regard to filing of an appeal in the High Court against the award is taken. The Labour (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Court, Port Blair has also liven an award in favour of 7 employees of SCI appointed in THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Port Blair office on different terms and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE conditions from those of tbe regular emp- (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) to (d). loyees. 10 this case, the Shipping Corpora- The World Health Organis&tion had recom- tion or India bas field an appeal in the High mended that Member States sbould comply Court of Calcutta against tbe award and the with the requirements of "Good Practices in matter is, therefore, subjudice. the Manufacture and Quality Control of Drugs·'. Proposal for a Bye-Pass from MaJoleh to Based on W. H.O. guidelines, Govern. Rampar Road 00 National ment bas framed guidelines on 800d . Highway No. 24 practices on manufacture and Quality Contro) of Drugs·'. 6956. SHRI HAFIZ l\t{OHD. SIDDIQ : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased Based on W.B.O. guidelines. Govern... to state : ment has framed luidelines on good practices an manufacture and quality control of drugs (a) whether OD the National highway No. and bas advised State Drug Controllers to 24 between Moradabad and Rampur great ensure adoption of these guidelines while inconvenience is being caused to the resi- granting licences and renewal of licences to dents of Moradabad due to congestion, manufacturing units in their respeaives pollution and traffic bottlenecks ; States. (b) if so, whether there is anY proposal Shortage of Vision Sci_fists for a bye-pass from Majoleh to Rampur Road to ease the position in Moradabad ; 6958. SHRI NARENDRA BUDANIA : and Will the Minister or HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE.be pleased to state: (c) if not, the reasons therefor '? (a) whether there is acute shortaao of vision scientists who are distinct from eye THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE doctors in the country ; DEPARTMBNT OF SURFACB TRANS- PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): <8> Yes, (b) if so, what is the estimated Dumber Sir. of eye specialist. required iD the COUntry ; aDd (b) Yes. Sir. It is proposed to construct a bye-pass outside Moradabad toWD. (c) whether uy steps are beiDa takeD by GOYe.l1llJlCrJI to meet the sbOltqe of e,.. (c) Docs Dot arise. . specialists in the COUDtry? . 87 Wnt." ....", APRIL J " J98& TBB DSPUTY MINISTBR IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof ; DEPARTMENT OF' FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) There (c) total amount spoot for dosianinl ; is DO category recosniscd as vision scientists. and There is, however, a shortage of eye doctors (d) total cost of uniform for each' (Ophthalmologists), optometrists and person? ophthalmic assistants in the country. (b) As apinst our need of approxiama- THE MINISTER OF ST ATB IN THE tely 16000 eye specialists at the rate of one DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION eye specialist for 50000 populatioD, tbe (SHRI JAGDISB TYTLER): Steps to make Teacb.lng Profession "bether any research bes been Attractive undertakeD to establish the medicinal value 6959. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: of 'Honey'; and Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (b) if not, whether Government propoae DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: to inldate sucb a study at the Indian Cnuncil (c) the amount proposed to be spent years to the State Government or to an y during each phase ? other social organisation of Rajasthan to set up cultural centres for development c f THB MINISTER OF TRANSPORt' Rajasthani culture? (SHRI BANSI LAL): 6964. SURI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA : PlDucI.1 usistaace to Daace, ...... Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Tllealre etc. DBVBLOPMENT be pleased to state the 1983.14 details of the assistance provided by the 1. Marudhar Lot Kala as. 5.000/- Central Government duriD8 the last three Kcadra, BanDer. APRIL I', 1986 W,III •• ..4nnv.,,, ~ 2. Gramya Lot Kala Its. 5,000/- The alignmOllt for roach-J (tram Kazhak. Mancb, Chittorgarh. kuttam to Vazhamuttom) bas been approved and an estimate for tbe acquisition of land 1914.. 85 bas also been sanctioned. Land Acquisition 1985-86 procecdinlS are in advanced stage of pro. 1. Meera Kala Mandir, Rs. 10,000/- gress. A part of reach-I from Ch. 11900 to Udaipur 13079 bas allo been taken up for construc- tion to provide access to the Air Port and FiaaD~lal assistance (or the reorganisation work is in progress. The estimates for ancl develop&lental of Other Museums another two stretches from Ch. 10250 to 11900 and 13079 to 16500 in reach-I for road 1983-84 Nil formation and C.D. works are under 1984-85 ' examination. Survey and investigation by 1. Ram Charan Pracbya Rs. 5,925/- the State PWD for the reach-II (Vazbamut- Vidyapitb, Jaipur Publication tom to ParsaJa) is in progress. . 2. Mehrangarh Museum Rs.8,000/- Progress in Construction of Koraput-Rayagada nust, Umaid Bhavan Publication Railway Line Jodhpur. Rajasthan, 6966. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the 1985·86 Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to 1. Ramcharan Prachya Rs.2,965/- state I Vidyapith, Jaipur eGuipments Rs. 25,000/- (a) whether the progress in the construc- eqaipments tion of the Koraput-Rayagada Railway line bad been some what tardy; if 10, the 2. Sir Chhotu Ram Rs, 9,000/- reasons therefore. Sangrahlaya, equipments Gramothan Vidyapith (b) the total kilometres of the Railway Sangrahla)a Rajasthan. line 10 far constructed and how 10Dg will it take to complete the remaining portion; 3. Mehrangarh Museum Rs. 24,000/- Trust, Umaid Bhavan, Publication (c) wbether tbe entire section of this line Jodbpur. would be ready by the time the NALCO plant goes on stream; if Dot the reasons {EnglWt] thereror ; and Kazhakkottam-Kovalam Byepass ia Kerala (d) whether there is any proposal to electrify this line during the Seventh Plan to 6965. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the ensure its smooth and speedier workiol '1 Minist"!' of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINJSTSR 'OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Thc construction (a) whether Government are aware that of the line is being proareslcd according to due to Don-sanctioning of funds and non- availability of resources which are under issue of administrative approval, the work severe atrain at present. on National Highway byepass at Kazbat- (b) and (c). 20 Kms. approximately. kuttam-Kovalam in Ketala is at a stand- The completion of the remaining portion still; and will depend on the availability of resoucccs (b) if so, the action propoted to be in the comina years. takeu to '.GO tile work without delay '1 \6) 'No, CS\t. THE MINISTER. OF STATB IN THE Stept to avoid threat to DEPARTMENT OF SURFACB TRANS- Ran"., SaIetJ PORT (SHR.l RAJESH PILOT): (a) and 6967. PROF. MADHU DANDAVAT2 : (b). The CODltluctiOll of tbe byepass i. Will the Minister or TR.ANSPOaT be beiDa done ill a pbued manaer depcndioa pleased to atate the atepa takeD to avoid upon tbe availability 01 funds and later-Ie threat to railway safety .. a resalt of lD&de- priority or alleuch works OD all melia basil. quate Kllomctrap of track-reDCWal ? CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKAl Written AIIIWn '4 THB MINJSTER OF TRANSPORT Bogu. J,.,titutloos claiming affiliation witb (SHRI BANS} LAL): The pace of track noa-exi.fent univ~rsitjes renewals has been stepped up from 1096 kml. in 1980-81 to over 3500 kms. in 6970. SYED SHAHABUDDIN: WiD 1985-86. The target for 1986·87 has been the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE fixed as 3800 kms. and an allocation of DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : RI. S9S crores (net) bas been made for the purpose. Increased maintenance inputs are (a) whether existence of bogus institu- also being made wherever required to ensure tions which claim affiliation with non-exis- safety. tent universities or educational bodies abroad and sell degrees of diplomas has loeonvenieat timings of Passenger Trains come to the notice of Union Government? I"IIDDiDg between Pen and Bombay (b) if so, tbe particulars of such insti· 6968. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : tutions ; and Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state ; (c) the steps Government have taken or propose to take to deal with such educatio- (a) whether daily passenger service bas nal rackets ? been started from Pen to Bombay on the West Coast Koakan Railway Section ; THE MINISTER OF STATEMENT IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION (b) if so, whether the timings of the AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA train are inconvenient to the passengers who ROHTAGI) : (a) The Ministry of Human reside in Pen and go to Bombay for jobs ; Resource Development bas no infOImation and with regard to the existence of bogus insti- tutions in the country which claim affiliation (c) if so, whether the timings are pro- with nOD-existent universities or educatio- posed to be revised to suit the passengers nal bodies outside India and sell degrees or going to Bombay city for work every day? diplomas. THE MINISTER OF TRANSpORT (b) and lc). Do not arise. (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. Payment for Repair of Watercrarts UDder (b) and (c). Do not arise. AndaDlaD aDd Nkobar AdministratiOD Shops, Stalls and Vendors Licensed at Howrah and Sealdah RaOway Statloos 6971. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be 6969. SYED SHAHABUODIN : Will pleased to state the total amount paid to the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Central Inland Water Transport Corporation state : and other organisations for repair of water- crafts under the Andaman and Nicobar (a) the total number of shops, stalls and Administration.. department-wise separately vendOR licensed at Howarh and Sealdah and the number of vessels repaired during railway stations ; last three years ? (b) the names of the lessees, concessio- THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE naires and licensees ; and DEPARTMBNT OF SURFACB TRANS- PORT (SHRI RAIBSH PILOT): The (c) the total reven\le collected from such information is being collected will be lessees, concessi.Daires, licensees, duriog and 1985-86 ? laid on the Table of the House. 'P~ SQare iRE Ml'N\Sll3.~ Or 1R~'N~~O~~ at 'Parts tor Vessels an6 (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Bipty. Workshop _clef MariDe DepartmeM ADdalDae and Nkobar Islauds (b) The information is being collected and trill be laid OD the Table of the Sabba. 6972. SHRJ MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Will the Minister or TRANSPORT be (c) R.I. 88,546.68 p. pleased to state ; 95 Wrlttetl dllSMWs APRIL 17, 1986 (a) the total purchase of spare wts for (b) when such units were obtained and the vessels and workshop under tbe Marine installed and when these started functioning ; Department, Andaman and Nicobar Islands, during the last three years, year-wise ; Cc) bow many X-ray technicians are presently working in tbese hospitals and (b) the amount olloca1 purchases made whether Government propose to train more during the above period ; and technicians for the job ; and (c) whether proper quotations were (d) if so, action taken in this regard? invited before such purchases and if not, the THB DEPUTy MINISTER IN THE reasons therefor? DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b). As per statement given below: DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOn: (a> to (c>. (c) For radiographers are working in the The information is being collected and will various hospitals i.e. two in G.B Pant be laid on the Table of the House. Hospital and one each in Civil Hospitals Mayabunder and Nancowry. Radiograpber X-Ray units installed in Hospitals in of Mayabunder Hospital provides services Andaman and Nieobar Islands for Civil Hospitals R angat and Diglipur. The Government ,roposes to train more 6973. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: radiographic technicians. Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (d) Generally a panel of selected para- medical candidates is prepared from which (a) the number of X-Itay units installed on-service candidates are trained in radiO- in the hospitals in Andaman and Nicobar graphy by special arrangements with Islands, with names of such hospitals; JIPMER, Pondicberry. T STATEMENT DETAILS OF X-RAY UNITS INSTALLED IN TliB VARIOUS HOSPITALS OF A AND N S. Name of the Make of Machine Obtained Installed Started No. Hospital in tho in the FUDctioning year year in the year 1 2 3 4 5 6 1. G.B. Pant Hospital i) X-Ray field unit Weston 6O-cycle 1959 1969 1969 ii) X-Ray field 1946 Uuit- 70 cycle 1946 1959 1950 iii) Portable X-Ray 20 m.a. 1955 1959 1959 iv) Portable X-Ray WC$ton Mx-2 1963 . 1963 1963 y) Partici&l)-200 m.a. (DOW converted into 3QO m.a.) 1962 1963 1963 vi) Philips DentaJ X-Ray 196' 1965 1965 vii) Siemens. Kitenacopor 240 m.a. 1978 1978 1978 viii) UDiclo-2. Portable 1978 1979 1979 91 "'nll_ AlISWeTl CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SdU) WritIM AfIIWI'8 98 1 2 4 5 6 ix) Portable 30 m.a. X-Ray machine 1983 1983 1983 x) M.M. 20 Unit Odelca Camera 1980 1982 1985 2. Civil Hospital, i) Portable Profexray 1960 1962 l%Z Car Nicobac ii) Simens 60 m.a .• plander 1978 1979 1979 iii) Stemens Portable 1974 1974 1974 3. Civil Hospital i) Portable X-Ray Unider 1970 1970 1970 Diglipur 4. Civil Hospital i) Portab1e X·Ray Unider 1970 1970 1970 Ranaat 5. Civil Hospital i) G.F. 100 m.a. X-Ray 1982 1982 1982 Mayabunder 6. Civil Hospital i) 30 m.a. Portable X-Ray 1983 1983 1983 Nancowry Time bound programme to 101ft water Ca) whether there is any proposal to problems of Gujarat aad curtail the running time of New Delhi- Mabarasbtra Bombay Rajdhani Express by two hours; 6974. SHRI R.S. MANE : WiJI the and Minister of WATER. RESOURCES be (b) if so, the details thereof ? pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (a) whether Government propose to Speeding lip of New DeIIaI-Bomba, (c) it so, the amount earmarked for this. Raldlaaal Eqresa purpoae for the year 1986-87 ? 6975. SHlU R.S. MANS : Will the THE MINlSTBR OF TRANSPORT Minister of TR.ANSPOIlT be pleasod to (SHill BANSI LAL): (a> to (e).. ~... state ; ilDd pIa$fOl1Q sholtorl are ...... y 81dab1e 99 Written Answers APRIL 17, 1986 Written Answ6r8 1 00 as per standards on the stations 00 Kolbapur jii) The Sunderbans Miraj Section. Only at Nimsirgaon Tamdalge iv) The Godavari halt station, there is DO platform shelter, but a waiting ball has been provided. Tea v) The West Coast Canal stalls aco available at Kolbapur. Jayasingh- vi) The Mandovi and Zuari rivers and pur and Hatkanagale wbile Miraj bns a Tea Cumberjua Canal in Goa stall and a refreshment room. There is DO proPosal to augment tbese facilities at vii) rho Narmada present. viii) The Mahanandi Proposal to Curtail Journey time to Kolbapur- ix) The Krishna Bombay Mahalasmi Express x) The Tapi 6977. SHRI R.S. MANE: Will the (b) The Working Group c;et up for Mjnister of TRANSPORT be pleased to ficalisation of Seventh Five ... Year Plan state : proposals for development of inland water transport and recommended the considera- (a) whether there is my proposal under tion of following waterwa} s for declaration consideration to curtail the journey period as N,;ltional Waterways in the Seventh Five of Kolhapur-Bombay Mahalaxmi Express by Year Plan; one hour : and i) The Brahmaputra (b) if so, the details thereof? ii) Tbe Godavari iii) West Coast Canal (Qullon-Cochin THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Section) (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. iv) The Krishna (b) Does not arj~e. v) Tbe Sunderbans Waterways included for Declaration as National In the Seventh Five-Year Plan. a provi- Waterways daring Seventh Plan sion of Rs. S crore, on'y bas been made for 6978. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : declaration of tbe above waterways as National Waterways. For consideration of SHRIMOHANBHAlPATEL: aoy waterway for being declared as National Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be Waterway carrying out of hydrograpbic pleased to state : surveys and tecbno-economic feasibility studies is a pre-requisite. These studies (c) if so, the reaction of Government so (c) The Balwadi Nutrition Programme far as tbe conditions prevalent in India are which provides nutritional supple- concerned particularly in tbe fields of im- ments to children in the ale group proving the nutritIon of vulnerable popula- 3-5 years through balwadis. tion groups like tribals, nutrition education, preventive health and family planning ser- (d) The Mid·Day Meals Programme vices; and which provides supplementary nutrition to school-going children in (d) the broad outlines of the program- the age group 6-11 years. mes, if any, covering these aspects drawn up for implementation during the Seventh (e) The Scheme of Creches for the Plan? Children of poor working and Ailing Mothers which provides a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE package of health and nutritional DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS services to chtldren (O-Syears) of AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- poor working/ailing mothers. FARE (SHRIMATI MARGRET ALVA): (a) to (d). According to the World Bank (iii) Some programmes have been taken Policy Study "Poverty and Hunger" (Feb- up to tackle specific nutritional deficiencies ruary 1986) more than 700 mdlJoD peopJe and prevent their serious consequences- in the developing world Jack acceSS to (a) Prophylaxis against blindless due to enough food for active and healthy life. vitamin A deficiency; Government is aware of the problem of (b) Prophylaxis against nutritional malnutrition among vulnerable population anaemia in mothers and children; group and have initiated several programmes and to improve their nutrition. Boaed outlines of (c) Goitre Control Programme. important programmes are given below :- (iv) Family Planning services are pro- (i) Integrated Rural Development Pro- vided through a large net-work of medical gramme, National Rural Employmer..t Pro- and health institutions. These are integrated gramme and Rural Land-less Emph.} ment with maternal and child health services like Guarantee Scheme are the major program- immunization, health check-up 7 nutrition mes for alleviation of poverty by providing and preventive measures against anaemia employment and subsidiary occupations to and Vitamin A deficiency ; tbe poor. (v) Nutrition education is an integral (ii) A few programmes have the impor- component or varIous bea'th and nutrition tant component of nutrttaonal supplements programmes mentioned above. The Food to young children, pregnant women and and Nutrition Board (in tbe Union Depart- nursing mothers-they are. ment of Food) also conducts nulI'ition education through Mob:Ie Units. (a) Tile Scheme or integrated Child Development SeIvices (ICDS) which The above programmes are under im- provides a package of health, nutri- plementation during tbe Seventh Plan. Thcso tional and educational services to programmes are also implemented ID tribal childl en below 6 years, preguant areas. women and nursjng mothers. (b) The Special Nutrition Programme Payment of Tax on Increased Rates to (SN P) in the State sector wbich AsaDsoI MllDicipality prOvides supplementary nutrition to 6980. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the children beJow 6 years, pregnane Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to women and nursing mothers. From state: JaDuary 1986, a CentralJy Sponsored wheat-based lupPlementar) nutritioD whether the Railway AdministratiOil programme has also been started to pays only Ra. 1,47,000/- to the Asansol increase the numbe!' of beneficiaries Municipality althouab the latt. spotds of supplementary nutrition in nearl, Its. 9.00,000/- annuaDy for the ICDS/SNP. Ilailway colonies, which includes CODIerIUlC1 103 Written Answer.t APRIL 11, 1986 rVritten ,-i".rwers 104 service, construction of roads and primary (c) the employmont potentiaJities, eduatioD for the children living In the additional employment potentialities under locality; this new project; and (b) whether it is a fact tbat tbe rate of (d) the decision taken by ONGC with taxation is 7l per cent upon annnal valua- regard to placing the orders with HiDdustan tion in Railway colonies, whereas the Civil Shipyard Limited ? population is paying taxes ar the rate of 30 per cent on an average; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- (e) whetber the Railway Administration PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) The is considering to pay to the Municipality at Project for creating infra'itructuraI facilities an increased rate? at an exclusive Yard at a site adjacent to THE MINISTER Of TRANSPORT the Shipyard at Lova Garden for taking up (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No Sir. From construction of offshore well-bead platforms 1.4.1983 the Eastern Railway is paying to was approved by Government at an estima- Asaosol Municipality a sum of RI. 2,55,602/- ted cost of Rs. 10.25 crores which includes per annum towards municipa] tax and Rs. 74 lakhs as capitalised interest. At service charges. This works out to a rate present, the Shipyard bas orders for cons- 0 truction of two offshore platforms for Oil of 19.5% (Holding 7.5% Conaervancy 6 / 0 and Water 6%) OD the annual valuation of and Natural Gas Commission. railway properties accepted by the Review (b) The Offshore Platforms Yard at Committee of the Asansol Municipality. No Hindustan Shipyard Limited. Visakhapatnam road bas been constructed by the Asansol was conceived for an initial capacity of two Municipality within tbe Railway Colony. platforms and to be increased to four plat- The provision of educational facilities forms per year, based on the project ed needs is excluded from the paymen t of service of ONGC for these platforms durin8 the 7th cbarp per tbe directives of the Ministry of Plan period. Finance. (b) The Railways pay to the Municipa- (C) The new Yard at Visakbapalnam lity 'i% of the annual valuation of post today provides employment to nearly~l.000 1937 Propenies as service charges. Informa. personnel and will ultimately provide em- ployment personnel. tion about payment by civil population is to about 1,500 not available. (d) The ONGC has not yet taken any (c) The question of the rate for payment decis jon with relard to the placjng of rurther is under consideration in consultation with orders on Hindustan Shipyard Limited. MinistrY of Finance. New Airpert in Kaayakumari DiattJcts COIIItructioa of ofl'-sbore Platforms in 6982. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Hind_tan ShIpyard Ltd., Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to VisakbapabuuD state: 6981. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA (a) whether there is a propoaal under MURTV: Will the Minister of TRANS- the consideration of Government to set up PORT be pleased to state : an Airport in Kanyakumari District ; and (b) if 10, the details thereof? (a) tbe number of off-thore platforms which are proposed to be collltrueted and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are uDder constrUCtion in Hindustan Ship- DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION yard Limited, Visathapatoam and the capitaJ (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER): (a) There cost of the project approved by the Union is DO proposal to act up an airport in GOYeI'DIDCDt ; Kanyakumari since the airport at Trivandrum i. located at a djatance of (b) the number of order. wbicb wore 60 kOl.. from. and connected by road and HPCCted to be received durina a four-year rail wjth, Kanyakumari. Farther, Indian period from tbe date or matiDi the proposal Airlines and Vayudoot have Dot iodicated to tile Union GOYerDmeJIt and the Dumber aDY requirement for an airport in Kany•• of order. so far receiyed ; kumari. 105 Written Answer. CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 106 (b) Does Dot arise. (c) Yes. However, to ensure tbat SCI ST children secure admission in accordance Vayudoot's New Services from with the reservations laid down for them, Saldarju... Airport the minimum threshold of marks required 6983. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: for admiuion is Proposed to be separately Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be laid down for tbem and it will be lower pleased Co state : than that for general candidates. whether it is a fact that there are Setting up of National Commission to serious misgivings about viabIlity of starting Purchase aDd Preserve Aatiques of Vayudoot's new services from Safdarjung 6985. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Airport ; and Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (b) whether any project studies or other DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: details have been worked out and ; if so, details thereof ? (a) whether Government would consider setting up a National Commission to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE purchase and preserve priceless antique or DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION historical importance and art objects ; and (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). Vayudoot had proposed starting scheduled (b) if so, the details thereof? operations from Safdarjung Airport. In the absence of adequate infrastructural facilities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at tbis airport services could not be started DEPARTNENTS OF EOUCAnON AND so far. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI); (a) and (b). There is DO Reserrations for Schedaled Cutes! proposal to let up a National ColDllliasion Scheduled Tribes In Model to purchue and preserve antiques and art Schools objecta. In consultation with experts, all major museunu purchase from time to time 6984. SHRI D.B. PATIL: WiJl the antiquities and art objects and preserve Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE .. tbem. LOPMENT be pJeased to state : !\laster Plan IeOt b, Karnataka fOJ' Taddiag (a) whether Government propose to ProblemJ of Sea El"osioo etc. make reservations for Scheduled Castes and Scbeduled Tribes in Model Schools being set 6986. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- up in each district in Seventh Plan ; WARI: Will tbe Minister of WATER (b) the proposed percentaaes or reserva- RESOURCES be pleased to state: tion for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled (a) whether Government of Kamataka Tribes in districts where average percentage have ~ent one master plan for tackling new of Scheduled CastcsJScheduled Tribes is complicated problems like sea erosion, more to total population in the districts shifting of river mouths, floods and erosion where the population is Jess; and aloDg the beaches ; (c) whether the Schodulod Castes and Scheduled Tribes students will bave to (b) whether a similar proposal has heeD compete with others for admission in submitted by the Kerala GovCI1lJllCDt to t~se &chools ? the Union Government for assistance; and THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, how much assistance bas been DEPARTMENTS OF BDUCATION AND liven to Kft'ala ? CULTURB (SHR-INAn SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Yes. Sir. THS MINISTER OF WATER RE- SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (b) The reservation for SC/ST would (a) A proposal entitled as 'Coastal erorion Dot be Jess tllaD that prescribed by the in KarnataJca Master Plan-October 1985- Government for entry into Government has been received from the ~t of semces. Kamataka. ~Oi Written Answers APRIL 17 .. 1986 Writt~n Answers 108 (b) and (c). No Similar proposal has CODversion of Guotur-MacberJa Rail Line been received from the Kearala Government into Broad Gauge (South Cen'raJ Railway) recently. However, Central loan assistance is being provided to Kerala smce 1972-73 6988. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA to help completion of the programme for MURTY: Will the Minister of TRANS- protecting tbe identified vulnerable reaches PORT be pleased to state: of the Kerala coast. An amount of Rs. (a) the progress in the conversion of 37.12 crOres has been given to Kerala upto Metre gauge rail line into Broad gauge from the Match \9~6. Guntut to Macber\a in South Ccn.tta\ 'Vorld Bank Aid for Orissa's Flood Railway; Control Schemes (b) the total estimated cost of tbe pro- 6987. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN ject ; aud M )HANTY : Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be pleased to state: (e) the aJJocation made (or the year 1986-87 ? (a) the number of flood protection drainage and other such projects which are THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT under negotiation for financial assistance (SHRI BANSI LAL): (8) Work on 2 with the World Bank; bridges completed. Tenders for taking up construction of 3 sections are under (b) the number of projects for irri&ation finalisation. and strengthening of embankments, drainage and 1Iood control in Orissa which are being (b) Rs. 32.20 crore. proposed to be implemented with World Bank Assistance durin& the Seventh Plan ; (c) Rs. 5 crore. (c) whether tbe Rengali Irrigation Pro- Doubling of Kazipet. -;ecunderabad Rail Line ject has not yet been implemented ~Jtbough the power ge..leration part of the project has 6989. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA been partially completed ; MURTY: Will the Mlnistt:r of TRANS- PORT be pleased to state; (d) "'betber any proposal is under consi. deration for implementation of Rengal i (a) whether the work of doubling of Irription Project during the Seventh Plan Kazipet-Secunderab~d rail line has been with World Bank assistance; completed ; and (e) whother any other International (b) if not, the reaSOns therefor? financial agency is being approached for financial assistance for Implementation of THE MJNISTER OF TRANSPORT the drainage, irrigation and flood control (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) aDd (b). Doubl- ing of remaining sinale line sections between measures in the State of Orissa ; and Kazipet and ~underabad is in proarcsa and (f) if so, the details thereof '1 hu not yet been completed due to consuaint of resources. THE MINISTER OF WAIER RESOURCES (SHRl B. SHANKAilA- Construcliun of Bibioapr. Nadik.udi NAND): (a) No, Sll. New Broad Gau&e Uoe (b) TWo major and 18 medium irrigation 6990. SHlU BHAITAM SRlRAMA projects are bemg implemented with World MURTY: Will lbc Minister of TRANS.. Baok asSIStance ducUli the 7th Plan. PORT be pleuCd to state : (C) The implementatIon of irription (a) the proaress ill the conatructioo of projects i. due to maaequate allocatlon slow the new broad aaulC rad hue bolWOCD of funds by the Slate Government. Blbioagar-Nadtkudi ; (d) No sueD proposal is under co.oside- (b) wbclbcr adequate lundJ becu liOD of the Govcram.ent of India. JbaYO allocated w complete this project "quickly; (c) and (f). No. S.r. aDd 109 Written Aruwerl CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written An~tr' 110 (c) when is this project likely to be Reforms Committee before considering the completed and fully operational '1 matter further. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Role of Vitam in 'A' in Prevention of Cancel' (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) New Line between Bibinagar and M iryalguda hal been 6993. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI: Will opened for trafliic and further work is in the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELF ARE be pleased to state: \,)to&tess. (b) An allotment of Rs. 5.5 crores has (a~ whether Vitamin "A't ~ bas got any been made for 1986.87. significant ro1e in cancer prevention; (c) Its completion win depend on avai- (b) if ~o, the detaiis thereof; and lability of re~ources in the coming years. (c) whether any other vitamin helps in preventing cancer and if so. the details Overhauling of Helicopters at Engineering ~ Base at Begumpet Airport thereof? 6991. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN WARA RAO : W,ll the Minister of TRANS- THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY PORT be pleased to state whether Govern- \VELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): ment propClse to entrust the overhaul and (a) and (b)' Yes, Sir. Studies have been maintenance of the helicopters owned by conducted outside India on the associations the HelicoPter Corporation to the engineer- between dietary intakes of Vito A and its ing base at Begumpet Airport which IS precursors such a._4i; beta carotene. and malig- centra\\y located in the country,? nades such as lung cancer, precancer and cancer of uterine cerv'i~ etc. Several reports THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE suggest lower risk of lUl"g cancer in those DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION who have high or intermediate frequency (SHClI JAGDISH TYTLER): No, Sir. of consumption of foods high in Vito A. There is no proposal to entrust the overhaul Studies in Japan indIcate a risk-reducing and maintenance of tbe bel icopters owned effect of green yel10w vagetables (whict, are by the Helicopter Corporation to the rich in beta carotene, Vit. A, Vito C, and t Engineering base at Bcgumpet Airport. dietary fibres) in reducing the risk of lung cancer and other se1ected sites of cancer. Proposal for All India Port Service 6992. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: WiJl the (c) Other Vitamins which are of interest Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to to researchers investigating their role in state : cancer prevention are Vito C, Vito E and Folic ·Acid (one of the B Complex group of (a) whether there is any proposal to vitamins). have an All India Port Service; and Overbridge on Railwa, le.el crossing (b) so, the details of its structure if '? in Palgbat Town THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE 6994. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- Wilt the Minister of TRANSPORT be PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) and plea"ed to state : (b). The National Shipping Board has recommended that the Government may (a) whether there is any proposaJ to consider establishing/introducing an All India construct an over-bridge OV.!f the railway Port Service. Since various aspects connected level crossing in Palgbat town; and with major ports, including their admioi§.. trative and operational structure, inter-pan (b) if so, the details thereof and tbe transfer of manpower, cte. form part or the time by Which it is going to be constructed ? terms of reference of the Major Ports THE MINISTER OF TjlANSPORT Reforms Committee appointed by Govern- (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No, Sir. ment in January, 1984, Government are awaiting the report of tIM Major Ports (b) Does Dot arise. 111 Writtell Answers APRIL 17, 1986 Writt. AIIIWI''' lJ2 Additional Funds for Construction of 3. Vamsadhara St. 1* New Lines during Seventb Plan 4. Vamsadhara St. II 6995. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: will the 5. Godavari Barrage. Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : 6. Somasila St. I & II (a) whether the Ministry have taken up 7. Improvements to Nizamsagar St. 1* the question of additional fuods for CODS- 8. Siolur tructiDl new lioes with the Planning Com- 9. mission ; and Yeleru Res. to. Srisailam R.B. C. (b) if so, the result thereof? 11. Srisailam L.B.C. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) y~s, Sir. 12. Telugu Ganga. 13. Polavaram Barrage (b) The Planning Commission have indicated that the matter would be conside- 14 Jurala red at the time of mid-tenn review of tbe ASSAM 7th Plan. 15. Dhansiri (Completion of Irrigation Projects 16. Champamati 6990. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. NAIK.: Will the Minister of WA TER BIHAR RESOURCES be pleased to state : 17. \Veslern Kosi Canal (a) the names and number of unfinished 18. Dagmati irrigation projects in different States; )9. Subarnarekba (I.S.) (b) whether some of tbo~e projects are 20. North Koel Reservoir. in an advance stage of completion and are capable of yielding ful) or partial benefit on 21. Durgawati Reservoir completion; t 22. Barnar Reservoir (c) if so, State.. wise Dames of such 23. Upper Kiul Reservoir projects ; and 24. Konar Diversion (d) whether Government are funding those projeCts adequat~ly ? 25. Tilaiya Diversion THE MINISTER OF WATER 26. Bateswarsthan Pump RESOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARA .. Bansagar (I.S.) NAND) : (a) to (d). Irrigation projects are funded and implemented by State Govern- 27. Ajoy Barrage Siklia ments aDd Central assistance is given in the GUJARAT form of block loan. and &rants. Information reprdiOI lhe projects under implementation 28. Damangaola (l.S.)· is as follows : 29. Panam.* A. Major Projcc:ts 30. Sabarmati. • Sl. Name of Projects Mahi Bajaj Sagar (I.S. ,. No. 31. Karjao ANDHIlA PRADE.C\H 32. Sukbi.· J. Nagarj :.Inasa.sr- 33. Heran. 2. Sriramsapr St. I (Pocbampad) 34. Sipu - Tunpbbadra HLC St. II (I.. S.) 35. Watrak 113 W,ltten Answers CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKAl 36. Narmada (Sardar Sarovar) (I.S.) 64. ChitturPuzha.• 37. Zankhari 65. Kuttiadi .• 38. Sidhumber 66. Kanhirapuzba. * 67. Pazbassi. HARYANA * 68. KaJIada. 39. W.J.C. Remodelling •• 69. MUvattupuzha. 40. Gurgaon Canal (I.S.)* 70. Chimoni. 41. Loharu Lift. * 7 J • Idamalayar. 42. J.L.N. Lift.. MADHYA PRADESH 43. New Tajewala Barrage (I.S.) 72. Mahanadi Reservoir. New Okhla Barrage (J.S.) "\ 44. SYL Canal (I.S) 73. KoJor. 45, Storages on Kotla Bhindwas, Ottu 74. Pairy.* 8Dd Massa n i Barrage * 75. Sindh Ph. 1.* 46. Providing irrigation to Mewat Area 76. Rangwan HLC. and Pataud i area and water supply to Gurgaon, Faridabad and New Indus- 77. Jonk.* trial Complex. Rajghat (I S.) 47. Conservadon measures by installing 78 Bansagar (l.S ) 1500 new sprinkle!' irrigation seta 00 canal systems, lirt and Fe systems. 79. Bargi 80. Upper Weinganga .• JAMMU &: KASHMIR 81. Kodar.* 48. Ravi Tawi Lift Irrigation Complex." 82. Bariarpur LBC. KARNATAKA Urmil (I.S ) 49. Tungabhadra LLC (RBC and LBC). Kalisarar (l.S.) 50. Bhadra. 83. Hasdeo Bango. 51. MaJaprabha* 84. Halali.* 52. Hemavathi 85. Than war. * 53. Tungabhadra HLC St. II (I.S.).• 86. Arpa 54. Upper Krishna St. I. 87. Mabi 55. Kabini 88. Man 56. Harinai 89. Jobat 57. Ghataprabha St. HI. 90. Narmada Sagar 58. Karanja 91. Sindb Ph. II. 59. Benoithora Bawanthadi (I.S.) 60' Hippargi Barraae MAHARASHTRA 61. Varuna 92. Kbadakwasla Dudhganga (I.S). 93. Krishna KBRALA 94. Bbima 62. Periyar Vaney .• 95. Kukadi 63. Pamba .• 96. Upper Godavari St. i. APRIL 17, 1988 97. Warna 135. Sift8da. - 98. Upper Tapi St. I and II. 136. Thoubal. 99. Pencb (I.S.)* 137. Kbuga. 100. Upper Penganga ORISSA 101. Upper Wardha. J 38. Upper Indravati 102. Manjra. • 139. Rengali. t03. Dudhganga (I.S.) 140. Anandpur Barrage. * 104. Waghur 141. Mahanadi Birupa Barrage. 105. Jayakwadi St. I.. 142. Upper Kolab. 106. Jayakwadi St. II. Subarnarekha (l.S.) 107. Upper Pravara. PUNJAB 108. Kalisarar (I.S.)* 143. Exten~ion non-perennial irrigation to 109. Chaskaman. area in UBDe tract .• 110.. Nandur Madhme5hwar. 144. Thein Dam. 111. Lower Dudhna. 145. Utilisation of ~urplus Ravi-Beas 112. Bhatsa. waters. J 13. Sucya SYL Canal (I.S.) 114. Bawanthadi (I.S.) RAJASTHAN liS. Istbapuri 146. Rajasthan Canal St. I •• 116. TiUari (I.S.) 147. Rajasthan Canal St. n. 117. Nira Deogbar. 148. Jalcham. * 118. Lendi (I.S.) GurgaoD Canal (l.S.). 119. Lower Penganga (I.S.) 149. Mahf Bajaj Sagar (I.S.) 120. Lower Thirna New OkhJa Barrage (I.S.) 121. Ghost K.hurd (Swargaon). ISO. Raising Kola Barrage. 1S1. Chambal Lift. 122. Lower Wardba. Narmada (Sardar Sarovar) (l.S.) 123. Lower WunDa. 124. Wao TAMIL NADU 125. Arunavati 152 Parambikulam AHyar.· 126. Tultuli 153. Modernisation of Periyar Vai.ai 127. Karwa System St. II. 128. Gated Weir at Khodubi UTTAR PRADESH 129. Saogola Branch Canal. 155. Oandak Canal Ph. I (l.S.)· J30. Talomba. 1'6. Sarda Sahayak.* 131. Puoad. IS7. Kosi Irrigation. * 132. HumaD. J 58. Tehri Dam 152. Lakhwar Vyasi Dam. 133. lC.oyaa Kriabaa Lift Scheme. J 60. Madbya Gana. CanaJ St. I .• MANIPUR J61. Sarju Nabar (Lert Balik Ob.".. 134. Loktak Lift .• CaDs'). 117 Written AtUWeTS CHAITIlA 27. 1901 (S..4KA, W,ltt~n tf".wer.r 11 S 162. New Okbla Barrage (I.S.)· 2. Assam 11 6 163. Eastern Ganga Canal. 3. Bihar 27 11 164. Suheli.* 4. Gujarat 82 43 165. Remodellinl of Bbimgoda Head 5. Haryana 2 1 Works.· 6. Himachal 166. Rajghat (l.S.) Pradesh 1 167. Shahzad Dam. * 7. Jammu and 168. Jamrani Oem. Kaahmir 15 8 16'9. Urmil Dam (I.S.> 8. Karnataka 19 5 170. Increasing capacity of Narainpur 9. Kerala 5 Pump Canal.· 10. Madhya Pradesh 40 11 171. Sane Pump Canal.* 11. Maharaahtra 86 22 172. Kanbar Irrigation. 12. Manipur 3 3 New Tajewala Barrage (1.8.) 13. Mcghalaya 173. Dewar Feeder.· 14. Nagaland 174. Madho Taoda. * 15. Orissa 2S 15 175. Maudala Dam. 16. Punjab 1 176. Increasing capacity of Samania Pump. 17. Rajasthan 14 6 Canal. 18. Sikkim 177. Raising Meja Dam.- 19. Tamil Nadu 14 7 Baoaalar (I.S.)J 20. Tripura 3 1 WEST BENGAL 21. Uttar Pradesh 21 12 178. Barrage and Irrigation sy~tem of 22. West Bengal 15 13 DVC (Extn. and Improvement).- UNION TERRITORIES 179. Kanaasabati.· 1. Delhi 1 180. Tcesta Barrage Phase-I Stage-I. 2. Ooa. Daman DADRA AND NAGAR HAVELI and Diu 2 (UT) 3. pondicherry 1 Damanganga (I.S.)* Total : 433 187 GOA. DAMAN AND DIU (UT) Damanganga (I.S.)- 1.. Projects on which expenditure of 181. SaJauli.- more tban 60% of estimated costS aro iocu- Tillari (I.S.) nd to end of Sixth Plan are considered in advanced staao. B. MEDIC M PROJECTS 2. I.S.-Inter-State Projects. 3. OngoiOS projects yield partial bcDefita 81. Name of No. of on- No. of pro. during .ecution and full beoeiIs on com- No. StateJU.T. goinl pro- jects in pletion. jects advanced stalU of Coa-.etSioa of Narrow Ga-.e LIoes construc- ia Orissa tion.- 6991. SHRlMATI JAYANTI PAT- 1 2 3 4 NAIIC: WiU tho Minister of TRANSPORT be plouecl to state : SrAT.E8 (a) wlaetber G (b) if so, which are the narrow puse (b) the numbor of children covered lines in Orissa pending clearaDCC for COD- under this scheme throughout tbe country version ; and and in Orissa ? (c) the steps taken to implement tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE above proposals ? DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT ROHTAGI): (a) An amount of Rs. 3.32 (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. crores bas been released to the various States/Union Territories for tbe implementa- (b) and (C). Do not arise. tion of the Scheme since 1974-75. The Scbeme has been implemented so far by Allotment of Tea Stalls. Book Stalls etc. only 10 States and 3 Union Terntories. on Platforms of Western Railway Suburban Section of Bombay (b) As per tbe Jatest Reports received 6998. SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH: from tbe State~/Union Territories which are Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- implementing the Scheme about 7000 dis.. sed to state : abled children have been admitted in schools under the said Scheme. The number of STATEMENT UPPER CLASS LOWER CLASS S. Train &: Name S. Train &I: Name No. No. 1. 8 UP Toolan Express 1. 8 UP Toofan Express 2. 16 UP G.T. Express ""~. 16 UP G.T. Express 3. 20 UP Dehradun Express 3. 20 UP Dehradun Express 4. 22 UP Dakshin Express 4. 2S UP AC Express S. 2S UP AC Express S. 26 UP Deluxe Exprcas 6. 26 UP A.C. Express 6. 30 ON Lucknow Mail 7. 30 DN Lucknow Mail 7. 47 UP Flying Mail 8. 47 UP Flyina Mail 8. S3 UP Himachal Express 'Q. 53 UP Himachal Express 9. S8 UP Amritsar-Dadar Express 10. S8 UP ASR-Dadar Express 10. 59 UP Udyao-Abha Express IJ. S9 UP Udyan Abha Express 11. 80 UP/79 DN Taj Expfttas 12. 80 UP/79 DN Taj Exprns 12. 81 UP A.C. Express 13. 81 UP A.C. Express 13. 13 DN A.C. Express 14. 82 DN A.C. &prea 14. 92 DN prayaa Raj Express IS. 92 DN Prayaa llaj Express IS. 103 UP A.C. Exproas 16. 102 DN Rajdhaoi Exprc&s 16. 104 ON A.C. &press 17. 103 UP A.C. Expres. 17. 120 ON Gomatl Express 18. 104 DN A.C. Bs.prou 18. 122 UP Tamil Nadu BQnIt 19. 120 DN Oomti Express 19. 124 UP A.P. Express 20. 122 UP Tam.iI Nadu &prcss 20. 126 UP ~la BxpIeIa 21. 124 UP A.P. Esp'_ 21. 12.8 UP Karaataaa ~ CHAITRA 27. J90I (SAKA) ; Written Atuwer8 126 n 126 uP Kerala Expresl 22. 14S UP Shalimar Express 23. 128 UP Karnataka Express 23. 158 DN Kashi Vjshwanath Exp. 24. 132 UP Mangala Bxpress 24. 161 UP Tata-Amritsar Expse5s 25. 145 UP Shalimar Express 25. 162 ON Amritsar-Tata Express 26. 152 UP Rajdhani Express 26. 168 DN MaJwa Express 27 . J54 DN Vaishali Express 27. 171 UP Superfast Express (JAT) 28. 158 ON Kashi Vishwanatb Exp. 28. 172 DN Superfast Express (BCI) 29. 161 VP Tata-Amritsar Express 29. 176 DN Neelacbal Express 30. 162 ON Amritsar.. Tata Express 30. 177 DN Jbelum Express 31. 168 UP Malwa Express 31. 178 UP Jhelum Express 32. 171 UP Superfast Express (JAT) 32. 182 UP Sarvodaya Expres~ 33. 172 UP Superfast Express (BeT) 33. 183 UP Ranchi-Kalka Express 34. 176 DN Neelachal Express 34. 184 DN Kalka-Ranchi Express 35. 177 UP Jhelum Express 35. 195 UP Himalayan Queen 36. 178 UP Jbelum Express 36. 197 UP Sban-e-Puujab 37. 182 DN Sarvodaya Expre~s 37. 418 UP Unc.babar Express 38. 184 DN Kalka-Ranchi Express 38. 907 UP Himsagar Express 39. 185 UP Bhiwani Exprees 39. 908 UP Himsagar Express 40. 195 UP Himalayan Queen 40. 192 DN Magadh Express 41. 197 UP Sbao-e-Puojab 41. 906 UP Bangalore Express 42. 418 UP Uochahar Express 42. 150 UP Kutub Express 43. 907 DN Himsagar Express 44. 908 UP Himsalar Express 45. 192 ON Magadb Express 46. 906 UP Baogalore EXPress 47. 150 UP Kutub Express 48. 916 DN Pori Express Goitre atrected areas in KeraJa Central Goitre Control Team, 44~~ iDcl~eDce was found amonl scbool children in this 7005. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the district. Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY The State Government has been advised WELFARE be pleased to state: to issue notification bann Ing tbe sale of salt (a) which are the areas in Kerala declared other than iodised salt under the PFA Act in by Government as Goitre affecced ; and the \.odemic area and obtain their require- ment of iodised salt from Madras Zone. (b) averaae percentage of affected people However, a quantity of 232 tonnes of aDd tbe remedial steps taken therefor ? iodised salt was suppli~d to the affected tHB DBPUTY MINISTER IN THE district durina January and FebruatY9 1986. DEPARTMBNT OF FAMILY WBLFARE (SHill S. KR.ISHNA KUMAR): (a) the number of train accidents which facilities varying from 10% to 20% of the. took place in Kerala during the last three price being payable up to delivery and the years. year.wise ; remaining 90% to 80% price being payable either as deferred credit or Joan over a (b) whether it is a fact that the railway period of 8 to 15 years. This ships proposed tracks in Kerala are over- burdened thereby would. have no board computer facility to causing accidents; and cover functions such as container monitoring, loading, maintenance etc. (c) if not. causes of such accidents ? THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT DTC Boses Working for Schools (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) There were 11. 6 and U Diversity and 13 train accidents during 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86 respectively in Kerala. 7008. SHRI MQOL CHAND DAGA: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be (b) No, Sir. pleased to state : (c) Out of 30 train accidents during three (a) the number of Delhi Transport Cor- years during 1985.86, only 5 occurred due to poration buses working for schools and as track defects. The remaining occurred due University Specials; to various causes, viz., mechanical defects, failure of drivers, combination of factors, (b) the income derived therefrom and etc. Track defects were not due to over- expenditure incurred on such buses during burdening. the months of September, 1985, December, 1985, and February, 1986 separately; Supply of Contaioef ~essels to Shippiog (c) the average per kilometer eXPenditure Corporation of India on plying of these buses ; 7007. SHRl H.N. NANJE GOWDA: (d) tbe average per kilometer income Will the MIDIster of TRANSPORT be from these buses; and pleased to state: (e) the loss suffered by DTC for provid- (8) wbether any decision has since been ing buses at concessional retes and tbe taken by the Shipping Corporation IndIa. of number of buses damaged and burnt by Bombay on the offers made to it by various students during the last three years, year- Shipyards for supply of container vessels of wise separately ? different kinds ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof; and DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- (c) the details of offers received by PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) The Shipping Corporation of India during last DTC deploys 623 buses for school dut ies to year along with sources of origin, financial operate 1246 trips daily. SirniJarly 615 buses suppon assured by the shidyard, if any, and have been deployed to operate 1035 Univer· typel of communication facilities available sity special trips daily. with each luch sbip and cost ? (b) to (d). Buses· are provided for THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE school duties daily @ Rs. 2.50 per K.M. DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. including one Double Decker bus @ Rs. 3/- PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) No, per K.M. on working days. The University Sir. special. trips are operated on normal fdre. The details of income derived and expendi. (b) Does not ari~e. ture incurred in respect of School buses for the month of September, 1985, December, (c) While no offer (or supply of container 1985 and February, 1986 separately arc given vessels has been received the SbippiDI by in the statement below. Corporation of India duriDg the last one year. shipyards which responded to Shipping (e) The working loss by DTC during the Corporation of India's enquiry for container months of Sept. '85, December. 1985 aDd ships durin, 1983-84 offered long term credit February, 1986 was Rs. 9.40 lakbs, Ra~ 6.05 129 Written AnSW6r8 CHAITRA 27. 1908 (S~KA) Writ/~n Answers 130 lakhs and Rs. 10.93 lakh. respectively. The are as under:- income from such school services at Rs. 2.50 per K.M. was, however, hiaher than the Year No. of buses Cost or income from normal services at Rs. 1.95 per damaged by damaged K.M. prior to fare revision. The rates students (Rs. in lakhs) charged for school services have yet to be 1983 173 3.(9 revised upwards to bring them in line with higber fares for norma) servic~ introduced 1984 58 1.14 from 8th February, 1986. A proposal in this regard is under examination. 1985 91 0.35 The number of buses damaged by the 322 4.58 students during the year 1983, 1984 and 1985 STATEMENT (Provisional Figures) Sept. '85 Dec.'86 Feb.'86 J. Income per K M. 250(P) 250(P) 250(P) 2. Cost per K M. (a) Working Cost (Exc1ud- 421(P) 396(P) 450(P) ing interest and dcprecia tion) (b) Total Cost (Including 793(P) 758(P) 827(P) interest & depreciation) 3 No. of Kms. operated 5.501akhs 4.15 lakhs 5.27 lakhs 4. Total Income Rs. 13.7S Rs. 10.38 Rs. 13 68 ,t •• " Working Cost Rs. 23.15 Rs. 10.43 , , Rs. 61 s. " 24 , .. 6. Total Cost Rs.43.89 Rs. 31.46 Rs. 45.24 " " " Rs. 9.40 , 6.05 Rs. 10.93 7. Working Loss , Rs. " 8. Net Loss Rs. 3C.14 , Rs. 21,08 Rs. 31.56 , , . " [ Translation] State No, of Eogg Colleges Capitation Fees Charged by Engineering Blhar 8 Colleges KaIoataka 27 7009. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mabatashtra 52 Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Tamil Nadu 22 DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state tbe State-wise number of Engineering colleges {English] at present where admission is given to students by charging capitation fee in com- Research on Prevention of Leprosy plete disregard of merit ? 7010 SHRl MOOL CHAND DAGA : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of HE.!\LTH AND DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUS HILA ROHTAGI): The State·wise number of (a) wbether any research into the causes engineering colleges. at present, where capj, a. of leprosy hac; heen done and what steps tion fee/higb foe is cbarged for admission f)C have been taken to avoid the recurrences students are as under: of the disease ; and 131 Written Answerl APRIL 17. 1986 (b) whether any research in treatina the (a) what is the system of postin. Railwa, dhease has been done in Allopathy and Officers OD Deputation/Secondment abroad; Ayurvcda in the country and if so, details and thereof? (b) what is the number of total officers THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and percentage of fribal Officers deputedl DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Secondment abroad separately during 1982, (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (8) Yes, 1983 and 1984 from Indian Railways and Sir. Indepth assessment of research priori- details Railway-Wise, department-wise aDd ties for the country was undertaken by a category-wise? high pov.er Scient ific Committee in 1982. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Additional thrust and support to impart a (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) RaIlway Officers .ense of committed goal, purpose and urgency are generally considered (or deputation/ in leprosy research was provided. Recent secondment abroad if they are available as studies in the country and outside have volunteers in response to circular~ or ale identified nose as an additional portal of enrolled in the computerised Data Bank entry and exit of tbe germs Earlier skin maintained by Rail India Technical and Eco- contact was considered to be the only nomic Services Ltd. Nomination is made out method of entry or exist of germs. However. of these officers, taking into account eilgi- the role of different factors that are involved bihty conditions like job requirements, quali- in the causation of disease are yet to be fications, experience etc. The deputataonl elucidated. secondment abroad of nominated Railway (b) Yes, Sir. The details of the Research Officers to non-railway/foreign organisations in Allopathy are : depends on their acceptability by tbe borrow..- ing organisations. (i) Identification of newer and effective Anti-leprosy drugs lIke Rifa'llpicin, (b) Information is being collected and Clofazimine and Prothionamide, will be laid on the tab1e of the Sabha. which curtail appreciably and the Financial Assistance to Sanskrit Institutions period of treatmeilt required or the run by Voluntary ~ssociations patient to attain cure Continua- tion of the drugs witb Dapsone is 7,)12. PROF. NARAIN CHAND the most effective Regj men and is PARASHAR: Win the Minister of HUMAN being introduced in a phased RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pJeased manner. to atate : (ii) Acti ve research work is in proJfCSs (a) what are the conditions and the to develop Anti Leprosy Vaccines, patrern of the ~anction of financial assistance which is in clinical trial for proving for the Sanskrit Institutions run by the their effcacy and suitability for mass Voluntary Associations in the various use. States ; The School of Tropical Medicines- (b) the names of the Institution; from Leprosy Research Department, Calcutta tried which the application for assistance have Manduk a Parni (CoDtinel1a Asiatica) a local been received from each State during the barb in Leprosy which showed some results. last three years; But it bas been found that it can not be (c) the names of Institutions which have substituted for Rifampicin, Crothionamide, been sanctioned the assistance in each Clofazimine and Dapsone which used in State, year-wise, alongwith tbe amouDt in combination as best bactdcidal effect and each case ; and prevent relaps. (d) the reasOns for rejecting the applica- POItmg of Railway 0ftIcen OIl DepotatJoal tions in the case of other Instifutions and SecondlDeDt Abroad whether any consideration has also been given to the provi4iiion of financial assistance 1011. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOa. . to IJlItitutions in such States jUnion Terri- Wilt the Mini.ter of TRANSPORT ~ tor_ in which Institutions have not be liven pleaseti to st&.te : apy aasiStaooe duriD, the Sixth Plan? 133 W,ltlen Jnswer, CHAITRA 2"1, 1908 (SAKA) Writtell AIUWUI 134 THE MIl"'lSTER OF STATE IN THE on the basis of the usefulness of the activity. DEPARTME~TS OF BDUCATION AND budgetary provisions available, recommenda- CULTURE SHRIMATI SUSHILA tions of the State Government etc. In order ROHTAGI): ( .• ) and (d). A statement ill to be eligiblo for refeipt of grant, a voluntary given below. organisation/institution bas to be registered under the Society's Registration Act In (b) and (C). Information is being com- some cases the grant-In-aid committee bas piled and will be placed on the Table of the suggested that before becoming eJigible for Reuse later. receiving grants from the Department, an organisation/institution should have been STATEMENT registered for a minimum period of the three ~·ears. Grants are given only for those The Department of Education of the items which have been approved onder the Ministry of Human Resource Development scheme. Consequently activities proposed provides financial assistance to voluntary by the organisations which do not fall within organisations/institutions ror various activi- the purview of the scheme's objective of ties which are undertaken by them for the promoting aDd propagating Sanskrit, are not promotion and propagation of Sanskrit. considered for financial assIstance. The This assistance is given under the Ministry's voluntary organisation/institution should have scheme of Financial Assistance to Voluntary adequate financial standing and should be in Organisations~ The requests received from a position to meet 25% or 5%, as- the case voluntary organisations for financial assis- may be as its matching share of the expendi- tance in respect of specific activities have to tore in order to be eligible to receive grant be routed through the State Governments I from tbe Ministry. Union Territory Administrations, which are expected to make specific recommendation 4. Durio8 the Sixth Five Year Plan on the status and proposal of the organisa- applications from voluntary organisationsl tionlinstitution. In the case of organisationsj institutions from the States/UTs of Tripura.· institutions of' all-India character, applica- Meshalaya, Nagaland, Goa Daman and Diu, tions for financial support are entertained by A. & N. Islands, Dadea, Nagar Havcli, the Department of Education directly. All Mizoram and Lakshdweep were not received the applications received are considered by a for financial support. grant-in-aid committee which the Depart- ment bas constituted and grants are sanction- Impro'femeut aod Maintenance of Natiooal ed on the basis of the recommendation of Higbway No. 47 in Tamil Nadu the committee. 7013. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to 2. The Department provides grant to state : the extebt of 75% of tbe approved recurring expenditure incurred on such item! as salaries Ca) whether Government are aware of of teachers, scholarships for students, the bad condition of the Tamil Nadu part purcbase of books, repair of building etc. of tbe Trivaodlum-Kaoyakumari National As regards non-recurring items, the grants Highway No. 47 ; and committee takes a view on the proposal sub- mitted by tbe or~.lnisation/institution. In tbe (b) if 10, tbe steps proposed for proper case or Adarsb PathshalJs/Sbodh Sansthans maintenance and improvement of the and Vedic Pathsbalas, grant coverinl 95010 National Highway 1 of the approved expenditure is provided by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Department. DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- 3. Each year applications of about 700 PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): <8> voJuntaty organi sations, working for the and (b). Deve)opment and maintenance of development and promotion of Sanskrit, are National Highways including Trivandrum- received and considered in tbe Ministry. Kanyakumari section of N H 47 in Tam iI Applications received from various voluntary Nadu is a continuous process and is depen- organisations/institutions are placed before dent upon the availability of funds.. Do riug tho Iraot-in-aid committee of tho Ministry. the 7th Five Year Plan, in addition to the The committee takes a view OD the proposals normal maintenance, some selecteCl ntaches 135 Written Answer8 APRIL 17, 1986 Written AlISlto r. 136 of this section of NH 47 are proposed to be Earnjogs from Trivandrum-t"~mbay strengthened and schemes of reconstruction Airlines route of bridges with impro\ed geometrics of alignment invertigated. 7015. SHRI VAKKOM '·URUHOTHA- MAN: Will the Minister 0) TRANSPORT loeidents of Engine Failure of Airbus be pleased to Itate the surplus earned by Indian-Airlines from the Trivandrum-Bombay 7('14. SHRI~ TI D.K. BHANDARI: AirJines route in the Years 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86 ? SHRI BALASAHEB- -VIKHE PATIL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION pleased to state: (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER): The surplus earned by Indian Airlines from the Trivan- weather there bas been serious drum-Bombay route in the years 1983-84. concern over three Airbus Ensines failure in 1984-85 and 1985-86 arc liven oelow : one month; Year Surplus (Rs. in crores) (b) details of the accidents/incidents in 1983-84 1986 88 reported in Hindustan Times dated 6.27 13 March, 1986 ; and 1984-85 5.59 1985.86 5.69 (c) whether the matter is being throughJy (provisional) investigated in consultation with Pilots and Ground Engineers? AlliliatioD of G Ol'ernment College, Port THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Blair with Delhi University DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION 7016. SHRI MANORANJAN (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLBR): (a) and (b). BHAKTA: Win the Minister 'of HUMAN No, Sir. The kind of failure in each case has RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased been different. The details of the incidents to state: are given below : (a) whether the Government College, (i) On 10.2.86, No. 2 engine of Airbus Port Blair, is affiliate with Punjab University Aircraft VT-EDX was shut down in and time and again representations have been flight due to vibratIon. The aircraft received to affilate it with Delhi University was operating flight IC-403 (Delhi- by amending the Delhi University Act ; Bangalore). The aircraft landed safely at Hyderabad where the engine was (b) whether the Andaman and Nicobar replaced. Council has unanimously resolved for the said affiliation ; and (ii) On 19.2.86, No. 2 engine of Airbus aircraft VT-EHC was shut down in (c) if so, the action taken in the matter? ftight due to fan vibrations. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE aircraft was operating flight IC-406 DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (Delhi-Bombay). It landed back safely CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA at Bombay where the engine was ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes, Sir. replaced. (b) In a letter dated 12.3.86, the Lt. (iii) On 11.3.86. No. 1 engine of Airbus G ovemor of Andaman and Nicobar Islands VT -BDY was shut down in fligbt as a has stated tbat the members of the Pradesh thud sound was heard during take off Council felt that tbe Government of India fonowed by turbine vibrations. The should be approached onco alain to enable airc,·aft was operating flight IC-404 the Delhi University to extend its jurisdiction (Banaalore--Delhi). The aircraft landed to tho Aodaman and Nicobar Island•• back safely at Banaalore. (c) The matter was examined earlier, (c) Yes, Sir. and it "as folt that affiliation of tbe Govern- 131 Wrlttt!" Answt!r., CItAITRA 27.1908 (SAKA) Written Answ6'~ 138 ment College, Port Blair to the Delhi {Englbh} University may not be feasible. In case the Andaman and Nicobar Administration is not ODT/ 8HC Residues over Safety Staodard in favour of affiliating rthe College to the , in Man aDd Animal Pondicherry University, it would be necessary / to consider other alternatives in consultation /' 7019. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: with that Administration. Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: [Translation] (a) whether a study of fat samples from Construction of New Rail Lines in urban cectres from different geographical Madbya Pradesh areas of the country conducted at the National Institute of Occupational Health, Ahmedabad in man and animal shows high 7017. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: DDT/BHC residues well over _ safety Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be standards : and pleased to state : (b) if 80, details of trials conducted so (a) whether any new rail lines has been far and corrective steps taken/proposed? laId during the last 20 years for the develop- ment of Madhya Pradesh ; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DBPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (b) if not, the reasons therefor? (SHRI S. K.RISHNA KUMAR): (a) Although no safety standards have been laid THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT down for DDT and BHC in the world. the (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. levels of DDT and BHC in India were observed to be higher than tbose in other (b) Does not arise. developed countries, e g. Germany, Belgium and Japan. Survey and Construction of Satna-Rewa and Goviadgarb-Bagwar Rail"ay Line (b) Th. Government of India is advocat- ing more judicious and controlled use of 7018. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: DDT thougb the Central Insecticide Board. Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : The details of trials are given below: CoThe National Institute of Occupational (a) the progress made in relard to Health has conducted a study under the engineering-cum-traffic survey conducted DST and GEMS programme on DDT from Satna to Rewa, Govindgarh and and BHC residues in human fat and Bagwar via Beehari ; and mothers· milk samples. CountryWide monitoring of insecticide levels iD 313 (b) whether Government propose to medicolegal autopsy fat samples from include the construction work of this railway 7 urban centres of the country Ihowed line in the Seventh Five Year Plan ? mean levels of 11.04 ppm of DDT and 3.49 ppm of BHe. Maximum levels of THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT DDT were found in samples collected (SHRI BANSI LAL) : Lack of Information Facility at Sahaw rEnglish] Interoatlonal Airport, Bombay \ Widening of National Highway No. I-A 7020. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will between Jalandhar and Patbankot the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to 7022. SHRI CHARANJIT SINGH state : WALIA: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT rye pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that there is no arrangement in tbe Sabar International (a) whether Government propose to Airport, Bombay, for providing inrormatioQ convert National Highway No. I-A between to the public, about the international flight Jalandhar and Pathankot into a double lane arriving at the Airport ; and highwa? ; and (b) if so, action proposed to be taken (b) if so, the details thereof? in this regard ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS.. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOf): (a) DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION National Highway No. J-A between Jalan- (SH1U JAGDISH TYTLBR): (a) No, Sir. dhar and Pathankot is already a double lane Flight information at Sabar International road. Airport, Bombay is provided through Closed Circuit T.V. and public address (b) Does not arise. systems by the International Airports Authority of India. [Translation 1 Air India and Indian Airlines also have Shifting of GOdOWDS of Jabalpur 80d separate arrangements for providins flight Madao lVlabal RaUllay Stations information to the public. 7023. SHRI AlA Y MUSHRAN: Will (b) Does not arise. the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : [TrtlllSlation J (a) whether Government are consider- Proposal for Green Centra' Strips 00 ing a proposal to shift the godown of Jabal- All National Highways pur and Madan Mahal railway stations from t.heir present location; 7021. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will (b) if so, the time by \Vb ich it is lJkeJy the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea!ed to (0 be done; state : (c) whether Government are considering (a) the annual 105s suffered in terms of a proposal to construct platforms with aU rupees as a result of accIdents on all the the facilities and entrances etc. in place of National Highways; and the godowns ; and (d) if so, the details in this regard? (b) whether Government propose to construct green central strips On aU the THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT National Highway by dividing them from (SHR,1 BANSl LAL) : (a) There was a pro- tile middle with a view to check thiS Joss ? posal but it has been kept in abeyance lor "ant of adequate funds. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) (0 (d). Do not arise. DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRAN~ PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) Statis- Ghosunda IrriaatloD Project tics relating to accidents on National Hip"ays are not maintained separately. 7024. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of (b) No, Sir. WATBR RESOURCES be pleased to state: 141 Written Answer8 CHAlrRA 27, 1908 (SAKJI) Written AnsweTJ 142 (a) whether it is a fact that the Gho- and Udaipur, Via Jaipur, Ajmer and sunda medium irrigation project or Chittor- Chittorg.. rh ; and garh in Rajasthan has been entrusted to the Central Governmeut ~o that the water of the (b) if not, the reasons therefor? Ghosunda 'rrigation project can be made available for use in the supper zmc smelter THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT plant proposed to be ~ set up in the publi~ (SHRJ' BANSl LAL) : (a) No, Sir. sector; ('b) One",uperfast train namely SOl/502 (b) if SOt whether the Rajasthan Govern- Pink City!Garib Nawaz Express is already ment bas stopped work on this project rUlt ling between Delhi and Udaipur via completely ; Jai~ur, Ajmer THE MINISTER OF WATER (a) whether his 1\1 inistry has undertaken RESOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARA- the work of conversion of railway line NAND): (a) The Ghosunda irrigation between Londa and Mormugao (Goa) iato project has not been entrusted to the Central broad gauge; and Government. (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) to (d). Do not aIlse. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Proposal to Run Meenakshi Express Daily (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. 7025. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHAKTAWAT: \Viil the MlOister of (b) Does not arise. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: FormatioD of New Paoel on Railway (a) whether Meenakshi Express which Tecbaology connects Rajasthan with South IndIa, runs only three days in a week thereby causing 7028. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will the great incovenience to passengers; and Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to (b) whether Government propoae to run state: this train daily and attach a first class com- (a) whether a new Panel on Railway partment to It ? technology is being set up and if so, details THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT thereof; (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Tbe train runs (b) bow this panel will perform functions 5 days a week at present. which are already being handled by the (b) There is no ~ucb proposal. R DSO or other units of the Railway Board and public sector units; and Introduction of a Superfast Train between Delbi and Udaipur (e) whether this Panel will also review the import of new te~hnology for railway 7026. PROF. NIRMAL>\ KUMARI wagons? SHAKTAWAT: Will the ~inlster of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. (a) whether Government propose to introduce a super fast train between Delhi (b) and (C.I. Does not arise. t43 Written Answen APRIL 17, 198' "'rlttM Answer, 144 Marketing on Anti Histamines Drags (SHRI JAODISH TYTLER): (a): No, with Steriocls Sir. 7029. SHRI TARIQ ANWER : (b) Does not arise. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. On June 15. 1:785, SHRI HARI KRISHNA A ir India bad concluded Aircraft Lease SHASTRI: Agreement with Evergreen International Will the ~inister of HEAL}'H AND Airlines for the wet lease of freighter aircraft FAMILY \VELPARE be pleased to stat" : with effect from July I, J 985 as follows: (a) whether anti histaminics drugs wi~h (l) One DC-S-73F aircraft for a period steriods are harmful and hangerous ; of 2! years. (b) if so, names of all sucb products (2) One DC-S-63F aircraft for a period beiDg marketed in the country ; and of two years with the option to extend the con tract for a furtber (c) wbat is the justification in tbe period of one year on the same allowing permission for marketing such terms and conditions. The agree- products ? ment for the DC-8-73F had a THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE provision for tbe possible substitu- DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE tion of the same with Boeing (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Com- 747 Freighter. Accordingly, the bination of Anti-histaminic drug1 witb Boeing 747 Freighter aircraft has steroids for systemic use were con.idered been substituted iD the place of the harmful by expert,. DC-8-73F aircraft with effect from April 6, 1986. (b) ud (c). Government have issued a notitication prohibiting manufacture and Air India has also been leasing IL-76 sale of all fixed dose combjoatioQS of ster- capacity from AerofJot for its freighter oids for intemal use except combinations operations since April 1982. of stcrioda witb Oller _drup for tbe treat- ment of Asthma. Introduction of inter-city fast train between Indore ancl Bhopal Combinations of Bronchodialators (anti- asthmatiCl) with CorcicostcroieiJ for systemic 703J. KUMAR.I PUSHPA DEVI : Wdl Ole in the treatment of Althma ha ve been the Minister or TRANSPORT be pleased to an.wed to be marketed. state ; Replacement of Jumbo Jet Kaoishka (a) whether Government have received 7030. DR. 8.L. SHAILESH: Will the any requett from the State Government of Minister of TRANSPOH T be pleased to Madhya Pradeab for introduction of an Inter-city fast train service between Indore state : and Bhopal; wbetber the Aic-IDdia baa since purcbased a Boeina 747 jwnbo jet to replaco (b) wbelber demand has also been made the ill-fated Kanisbka ; from some orpnisatioDa in Madbya Pradesh in this reaard ; and (b) the amount apent on the purchase of the new Jumbo and from wbere it bad (c) if so, the atops proposed to be taken been purchased ; to implemcot the above proposal 1 (c) whether the Air-India bas also taken THE MINISTBR OF TRANSPORT on lease 3 cargo aircraft; and (SHRI BANSI LAL) : aDd (b). Yea, Sir. (d) if so, the details thereof? (c) The proposal has beea examined but THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not fouod feasible due to paucIty of DEPAR.TMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION RIOUflCl. 14S Writ"" AlUlNn C8AITAA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written AlUWe,., 146 Ceatrall, Sponsored Scheme for Welfare of . Both the schemel are being implemented Children and Mothers In Madhya Pradesh. 94ICDS projects have 7032. KUMARI PUSPA DEVI : been sanctioned in Madhya Pradesh upto 1985-86 and 34 projects have been allocated SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: to the State for 1986-87. Under the scheme Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE or wheat-based supplementary nutrition DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state the aSSistance for 3.50 lakh beneficiaries ha~ details of the Centrally sponsored scbeme been approved for Madhya Pradesh. under implementation in Madbya Pradesh and Maharashtra for the welfare of motbers In Maharashtra, 94 Centrally sponsored and children ? ICDS projects have been sanctioned upto 1985·86 and 11 projects ha ve been allocated THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to the State for 1986.87. No proposal for DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS Central assistance under wheat-based supple... AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- mentary nutrition programme bas been FARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : received in this Department (rom the Govern- The Department of Women &: Child Develop- ment of Maharashtra. ment in the Ministry of Human Resource Development is administering two Central1y sponsored schemes for the welfare of Target/Achievement for Family Planniag 'mothers are children :- during 1985-86 (i) the scheme of Integrated Child 7033. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI: Will Development Services (lDDS). the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY started in 1975-76, wbich provides a WELFARE be pleased to state: package of nutrition, bealt and education a, services to children (a) the target set for family plannina in below 6 years of age, pregnant different States for 1985-86 ; and women and nursing mothers ; and (h) the achievemen t made by different (ji) the scheme of wheat-based Supple- State Governments during the above period ? mentary Dutrition for pre-school children and nursing! expectant THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE mothers, started from January 1986, DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE which provides wheat-based nutri- (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and tional supplement to children below (b). The State-wise and method·wise targets 6 years of age. pregnant women and of famiJy planning fixed for 1985-86 and the nursing mothers in tribal areas, achievements made so far baSed on the urban slums and backward rural latest reports received from the States are areas. given in tbe statement below. STATEMENT TARGET AND ACHIEVEMENT OF FAMILY PLANNING METHODS DURING 1985·86 S1. State/Union Sterilisation I.U.D. Insertions No. Territories/ ------Agency Annual Achievement £ Annual Achievement £ target (April 85 to target (April 85 to February, 86) Pebruary, 86) 1 2 3 4 S 6 I. Major States (Population 1 crore or more) 1. Andbra Pradeah 530,000 383,472 140,000 117,233 2. Assam 180,000 101,488 24,000 18,722 3. Bihar 571,000 283.073 174,000 119,631 147 Writte1l A~,J APRIL 17, 1986 Written AMWr8 148 j 2 3 4 S 6 4. Gujarat 300,000 269,270 250,000 23S,84S S. Haryana 100 .. 000 92,638 145,000 138,744 6. Karnataka 336,000 304,987 160,000 142,750 7. Kerala 215,000 153,458 55,000 50,473 8. Madhya Pradesh 42S,000 310.614 200,000 161,364 9. Maharashtra 565,00') 434,803 600,000 343,264 10. Orissa 210,000 152,037 100,000 75,041 11. Punjab 120,000 97,755 207,000 200,635 12. Rajasthan 285,000 229,299 85,000 78,5J2 13. Tamil Nadu 475,000 419,391 168,000 115,579 14. Uttar Pradesh 600,000 465,786 605,300 7J5,735 15. West Benaal 450,000 229,353 108,000 50,776 II. Smaner States/Union Territories 1. Himacbal Pra4esh 38,000 27,055 21,000 21,411 2. Jammu & Kashmir 40,000 93,967* 17,000 12,784* 3. Manipur 6,400 6,799 6,200 3,864 4. Megbalaya 600 427* 500 1,072 5. Nagaland 400 533 200 1.045 6. Sikkim 700 771 1,000 958 7. Tripura 10,000 5,664* 4,000 503* 8. A &: N Islands 1,400 1,238 800 765 9. Arunachal Pradesh 400 714* 1,400 975 10. Chandilarb 3,300 2,427 to,OOO 5,073 11. D & N Have1i 1,000 1,175 150 J83 12. Delhi 30.000 24,744 64,000 45,890 13. Goa, Daman &: Diu 5,000 4,118 1,SOO 1,342 14. Lakshadweep 100 38* 200 45* 15. Mizoram 3,000 2,536 2.000 1,237 16. Pondicberry 7,000 5,324 3,600 3,064 DI. Other Agencies 1. Ministry of Defence 23,000 16,934 12,000 9,686 2. Deptt. of 'Railways '28,000 20,863 16,800 8.654 3. Commercial Distribution AllIodia S,580,300 4,072,71 t 3,243,650 2,~2,85' 149 Written Answer.J CHAITRA 27, 1908 (S..4KA) Written AlIIWer.J ISO SI. State/Union C.O. Users O.p. Users No. Territories' ------_- Aleney Annual Achievement £ ------Anoual Achiev.ement £ Target (April to Target (April to February, 86) February, 86) I. Major States (Population 1 crore or more) I. Andhra Pradesh 300,000 35,412 80,000 58,803 2. Assam 40,000 32,971 10,000 4,284* 3. Bihar 150,000 87,473 50,000 11.219 4. Gujarat 472,000 457,212 74,000 70,248 S. Haryana 350,000 451,674 25.000 23,632 6. Kamataka 200,000 IS3,122 63,000 43,279 7. Kerala 75,000 95,803 35,000 20,699 8. MadhYa Pradesh 500,000 540,022 100,000 76,769 9. Maharashtra 600,000 537,108 148,000 167,661 10. OriSla 157,000 124,146 36,000 20,703 11. PuDjab 260,000 303,633 28,000 20,871 12. Rajasthan lro.OOO 140,690* 31,000 8,922 13. Tamil Nadu 200,000 128,176 76,000 31,036 14. Uttar Pradesh 690,000 762,422 90,000 98,197 1 S. West Bengal 260,000 110,923 82,000 13,390 II. Smaller States/Union Territories 1. Himachal Pradesh 23,000 32,410 9,000 5,109 2. Jammu cl Kashmir 15.000 7,940 4,000 1,644 3. Manipur 6,600 2,291 900 128 4. Mepa)aya 2,200 3,376 500 656 S. Naaaland 1,000 79 600 369 6. Sikkim 400 194 1,400 1,352 7. Tripura 3,000 1,206 2,000 851 8. A &: N Islands 500 400 200 59 9. Arunachal Pradesh 500 527 600 679 10. Chandigarh 10,000 6.444 soe 246 11. D &: N Haveli 550 S83 100 37 12. Delhi 174,000 141,317 2,200 996 13. Goa, Daman &: Diu 8,300 ',804 1,600 1,214 14. Labhadweep 200 585 SO 49 15. Miz.oram 3,500 1,095 700 616* 16. PoDdicharry 4,900 6,210 1,600 1,154 III. Other Agencies 1. Ministry of Defeuce 59,000 46,975* 3,600 2873*, 2. Departm~Dt of Railways 288,000 261,130 2,400 3,394 3. Commercial D\stIibution 4,500,000 2,902,879 All India 9.514,650 7.702,932 960.250 691,139 £pJprcs provilional -Flames up to January, 1989: 151 Wrltt_" ,.411,.." APRIL 17,1986 ",rill." ..1"..,8 t 52 Inddence of Rabbies (a) wbether flash floods are feared in Jammu & Kashmir speciaJJy in Jammu, 7034. SHRf P.R. KUMARAMANGA- Udhampur aDd Doda Districts as reported in LAM : Will tbe Minister of HEALTH the 'Hindustan Times' dated 18 March, AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to 1986 ; state: (b) if so, corrective steps taken in tbis (a) whether it is 8 fact that rabbies has regard; and been on the increase to stray dogs and other animals such as rabbits and foxes and if so, (c) whether it is a fact that flash floods, details reported and estimated cases in or cyclones, rains etc. are a regular pheno- 1983, 1984 aDd 1985 indicating fatal cases ; menon in Jammu &: Kashmir ? (b) whether there are a Jarge number of stray dogs in the country and if so, estimated THB MINISTER OF WATER RE· number thereof ; SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND) : (a) and (b). The Government of Jammu and (c) whether a large Dumber of registered Kashmir have not reported either an appre- domestic dogs also are not protected with hension or tbe occurrence of floods aa rabbies vacciae ; and reported in the Preas. (d) whether it is a fact that a person can (c) No. Sir. die aoy time from 14 days to 3 years due to dog bite' Names of comblDatioo of drugs with codIae marketed 10 india THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE 7036. SHR} VISHNU MODI : Will the (SHRI 8. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) The Minister of HEALTA AND FAMILY WEL- Dumber of dog bite cases and consequent FARE be pleased to state: deaths in the country u reported during 1983. 1984 and 1985 are .. foUows - (a) whether it is a fact that codine fa Dot heiDI allowed for marketing in any combina- Year No. of dog cases No. of deaths tion in most of the countries of the World 1983 59702 663 due to the reason that it causes addiction ; 1984 84929 722 (b) names of the combination of drul 1915 92177 638 with codine ; ThCSe figures do represent an increase iD (c) whether there is any proposal to ban incidence of rabics. the marketing of such combination of drugs (b) There are no accurate estimations with cod inc ; and about the number of stray dogs in the COWltry. The Ministry of Agr iculture had (d) if so. by when ? estimated in 1982 that this number could be about 20 million. Estimates in other studies THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE vary from SO million to 80 million. DBPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (8) No, (c) Yes, Sir. Sir. (d) Incubation period of rabies usually (b) Two statements I and II liviD, from 2 to 8 weeks. names of some of the formulations contain- iDa codine markoted in India and in other Flu.. FIoodI io J." K. countries arc given below. 7035. 8HBI P.R. KUMARMANG- (c) No, Sir. LAM : Will the Minister of WA TER &!!SOURCES be pleased to state, (d) Does not arise. CHArtRA 27~ 1901 (SA.KA) STATEMENT-I INFORMATION IN CONNEC110N WITH THE PREPARATION CONTAINING CODEINE, MANUFACTURED IN INDIA (SOME EXAMPLES) f" Name of the Company and Product - Composition 1 2 1. Tussacron with Codeine Syrup : Each 5 mI. contains Diphenhydra- mine HCL. 10 mg., Codeine Phose 8 IDI., Phenylepherine BCL. 4 mg., Pot. Gauiacol Sulphonate 100 mg.. Sod. Citrate 50 mg., Tolu Balsam 5 ms', Menthol 2 mg., Chlorororm Spt. 0.05 mI., (Acrom Pharmaceuticals, Ahmedabad). 2.. GlycodiDe Terp Vasaka Syrup: Each S mI. contains Antimony Pot. Tartrate 0.56 mg., Terpeae Hydrate 11.12 mg., Codeine Phose 11.12 mg .• Menthol 3.7S mg" Tolu Syrup 1.2! mi., Syrup Vasaka 0.47 ml., Alcobol 950/0) 0.07 mi., (Alerabic Cbemical WOI'ks, Co. Ltd,. Gujarat). 3. Kafal Liquid : Bach S mI. Contains Chlorpbenira- mine Maleate 4 mi., Codine Phose 10 mg., Ephedrine HeL, 10 mi., Chloroform 0.01 mI., Menthol 0.1 mi.• Sod. Citrate SO mg., Alcohol 0.1 mi. (Ashoke Bio.Pharma, Calcutta) 4. Kafat Forte Liquid : Each 5 mI. contains Mepyramine Maleate 6.67 mg., Codine Phosphate 10.7 mg., Bphedrine HCL. 8.8 mI., Aminopbyl- line 21.4 mg., Terpene Hydrate 5.4 mg., Syrup Vasak 0.81 mi.• Tolu Syrup 0.08 mI., Cal. Hypopbespbite 1.36 mg.. Alcohol 4% vivo (A$boke Bio·Pharma, Calcutta.) S. Kafbine Syrup (Mis. E IPL) Ammonium Chloride SO mg. Totu Sol. 0.25 mg., Pot. Guaicaco)suIpbonsale 90 mg., Cal Hypopbos 90 mg., Liq. Ext. Vasta 0.7 ml Codeine phose 10 1IlI., Ethyl alcohol 9.5% in each 5 ml. , 6. Power iD Tabs. Acetyl Salicylic Acid 0.35 gm. Caffeine MIs. Oeotfery MaDDers Anbydroug 65 mg, Paracetamol 65 m& Salicylamide 6S ml, Codeine ph os. 8.125 mao 7. G lucorex couah mixture Chlorpboniramine Maleate 3 mg. Sod Mis. Oluconale Ctr. 150 mg., Ephedrine He!. 7 ma., MeDthol 0.1 mg., codeine phos 5 mi. .8. CocIomoliDdoao Tabl. Paracetamol S02 mg, Codeine Sulf. 10 Iq., Mil. IDdon Pbarma. J 55 Writtell An.rw,." APRIL 17, 1986 W,ltle1l AlUWer" 156 1 2 9. Expilonsyrup Epbedrine Bel. 5 mg, Codeine Pbos 12 Mjs. Khandelwal Labs ml, Sod. + Citr. SO ma, Cblorpbenira- mine Maleate 2.S rng Mentbol 0.5 mg. 10. Spasmocidin Syrup Ephedrine Bel. 11.4 mg, Codeine Pbos 5.7 M Is. Pasteur Labs. mg, Terpene hydrate 5.7 mg, Pot. Cuaiacol suphonate 171 mg. Tolubalsum 9J.4 mg, Glycerin 10~~ v/v in each 5 mi. }t. Cosaka Syrup Vas aka syrup 8.5 mI. Ipecacuahba Tic. 0.1 Mis. Ralies India (TCF) mI, Pot. Guajacol sulpbonate 0.1 gIn. Codeine pbos 9 mg, terpene bydrate 10 mg, Menthol 2 mg, Chlorpbeniramine Maleate 2 ml, Alcohol 0.150 mI, in each 5 mI. 12. Cofcur A Syrup with codine. Diphenhydramine Hel. 13.3 DlI, Menthol MIs. Unichem Labs. 0.9 mg, Sod. Cit. 56.6 mg AS. Ext. Vasale. U : 1) 0.625 ml, Chloroform 0.022 mi. Coedine Phos 4.16 mg. 13. Campbo Codi Vasaka (Cough) Tcrpiae Hydrate 6.65 mg, Campbor 0.8375 mg" Menthol 0.8375 mg, Codeine phos. 0.8375 mg, Ephedrine Bcl, 4.675 mg, Syrup Tolu 0.8375 mI. Ext. Adhatoda Vuaka 0.412.5 mL Alcohol ConteDt 2% v Iv in cacb , ml. STATEMENT-II LIST OF FORMULATIONS CONTAINING CODEINE MARKETED IN OTHER COUNTRIES (SOME EXAMPLES) Compositions 1. Antidiarrhoeals: 1. Diarrest Codeine Phose S mit dicyclomine Hel. 2.5 mg, Pot. Cblor. 48 mg, Sod. Chlor. SO mg, Sod. Citrate SO mg, per 5 m1. liquid. 2. Kodene Boots CoeIoine Phos, 10 mg, Ljpt Kaoline 3 g, per 10 mI suspension. 2. Migraine: 3. Miaraleve lntcrnational Pink tabs. Buclininc Hydrochloride 6.25 ma. Paracotamol SOO mg, codeino Phose 8 IDI, docusate sodium 10 IDI. Yellow tabs: Paracetamol SOO ma. codciDc Phos. 8 IDa, docusate sodium 20 mi. 3. Analgesic and antipyretics : With ..pain and other aalycylates : 4. AntoiD Cox Aspirin 400 ma. Codciao phose S mi. CaffciDC citrate 15 mit wbite ICOfCd tabs. s. Cadis Aspirin 500 ml, codciDc phoa 8 ma., tabl., 157 Wrltfln AMWlr8 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAJU) 1 2 6. HypoD Calmic Aspirin 325 mg, caffeine 10 ma. Codeine pbos 5 ma, tabs. 7. Medocodene Me 8. MyoJgin Cox Paracetamol 200 mg, asplrtn 200 mg, Codeine phos .. 5 mg, caffeine cittate 15 mg, white scored tabs. 9. Neurodyne Rorer Paraeetamol 501 mg, codeine phose 8 JIll, Caps. 10. Panadeine Winthrop Paracetamol 500 mg, codeine phose 8 rna. tabs. 11. Paracodol Eisons Paracetamol SOO mg, Codeine pbos, 8 mg, eft'tab. 12. Parahypon Calmic Paraeeta mol 500 mg, Caffeine 10 mg, Codeine phose 5 mg, acored tabs. 13. Parake Galene Paracetamol 500 mg, Codeine phose 8 ml, tabs. 14. Paralgin Nrotan Paracetamil 450 mg. Caffeine 20 mg,. Codeine Phose ~ mg, tabs. 15. Paradale Martindale Paracetamol 400 mg. codeine phose 9 mg, caffeine hydrate 10 mg, tabs 16. Pharmidone Garmitalie Codeine pbos 10 mg, diphenhydramine Hel. 5 mg. Paracetamol 400 mg. caffeine 50 rna, tabs. 17. Propaine Luitpold Codeine phose 10 mg. dipenhydramine Bel. S mg. Paracetamol 400 mg, caffeine 500 mg. tabs. 18. Safapryn Co. Pfizer Asperin 300 mg, (ine.c core), Paracetamol 250 ml, codeine phos. 8 ma, tabs. 19. Solpadeine Paracetamil 500 mg. codeine ph os. 8 ~ caffeine 30 mgt effervescent tabs. 20. Syndol Paracetamol 450 mg, codeine phos. 10 ml, doxylamine succinate 5 rna, cafTeine S ml, tabs. 4. Expectorants, couab suppressants mucolytics and decongesants : 21. Benylin B'¥pectoren t Dipbenhydramine Hel 14 mg, ammonium • CbJo. 135 DlI, Sodium citrate ~7 ml, mentbol 1.1 malS ml. syrup. 22. Dimotane Bxp. Robins Brompbeniramine maleate 2 ma, luaihesin 100 mi. Phenylphrine Hel. 5 IDI, pbeDyl- propanol.mine Hcl 5 mg/S mi. 159 Written A1ISWel'3 APRl~ 17, 1986 Wrltt6n AIflWl'I 160 Provision of Post-Mortem Facilities in (a) whether it is a fact that installation AlIMS of mini computer at 16 terminals has not helped make available latest data on 7037. SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. SIDDIQ : to railways and if Will the Minister of HEALTH AND so, corrective steps proposed to remedy the situation ; and FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : (a) whetber the All India Institute of (b) whether the data for any month is Medical Sciences, New Delhi which had available by 20th of the following month earlier volunteered in 1978 to conduct post- with the help of the computers ? mortem examination has since decided to THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT conduct autopsy only on selective cases and (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No, Sir. A mini has asked Delhi Administration to take care computer with 16 terminals has been installed of post-mortem cases from South Delhi; in the Department of Railways in October. (b) whether Delhi Administration has 1985 for storage and easy retrieval of basic approached her Ministry for an alternative statistical data on the working of railways. so that the South Delhi cases do not go aU The computer serves the purpose of a the way to the Subzi Mandi mortuary '1 management information tool tor on-line retireval of information as and when requir- (c) if so, whether there is any proposal ed. Basic Compilation of statistics is not to ask the All India Institute of Medical done by this computer and is bandIed in the Sciences to continue performing the respon- field units. sibility by fully augmenting its resources by provid ing a separate building, more staff (b) Monthly statistical reports for etc. ; and management information are first collected and compiled by tbe respective Zonal (d) if not. how Government propose to Railways and field unlcs. These compiled ensure the convenience of the people of statistics are sent to the Railway Board by South Delhi ? 20th of the followinl montb and thereafter THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE these statistics are entered in the computer. DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Operational Joases of DeJbi Transport (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) to (d). Corporation Keeping in view the fact tbat the total Dumber of post-mortem cases coming to All 7039. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI India Institute of Medical Sciencefrin a year KHAN: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT has gone up from the originally envisaged be pleased to state the average annual loss 500 to more than 1700. the AU India Insti- suffered by Delbi Transport Corporation OD tute of Medical Sciences has requested the account of running empty buses from the Delhi Administration to provide post-mor- sbeds to the pJaces from where tbe service tem facilities in Safdarjung Hospital or in starts, leakage of revenue due to non-pur- any other hospital in South Delhi to reduce chase of tickets by the commuters and on the workload on A.I.I.M.S. The Ministry of concessional passes ? Health and Family Welfare is exploring the THE MINISTER OF STATE possibility of starting post-mortem work at IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. the Safdarjung Hospital in order to reduce PORT (SHRI RAJBSH PILOT): No esti- tbe load on A.I.I.M.S. mate of loss suffered on account of buses A.I.I.M.S. bas heed asked to continue running empty from depot to starting points, to conduct post-mortems an all cases refer- and back to the depot, is maintained u such red to them till the facilities are established movements arc considered part or the inevi. at Safdarjung Hospital and a rational table operational r~uirements of DTC. division of cases between the two institutions Instructions haye, however. been issued to is worked out. pick up passengers on these runs alad'. WorkiDa of Mini Computer The extent of leakage of revenue throuah non-issue of tickets has oot been determioed. 7038. DR. G. VIJAYA kAMA RAO : Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleas- It is eatimated that on various types of ed to state: passes i.sued durin. tbe year 1985-86, tbo 161 Written An.twers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answe'8 162 extent of concession given by the DTC was [Engli4h] about Rs. 10.12 crores. Free AJI Route Travel Passes to Freedom [Translation1 Figbters in DTC Buses Bridge over River Poon POOD on National SHRIMATI GEETA Highway No. 30 in Bihar 7041. MUKHER· JEE: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT 7040. SHRI KALJ PRASAD PANDEY: be pleased to state : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether Freedom Fighttrs in Delhi have been issued free aU-route travel passes (a) whether his Ministry had directed by the Delhi Transport Corporation; tbe Works Commissioner of Bihar State Public Works Department in November. (b) if so, whether these passes are valid 1980 that the bridge over Poon Poon river in the ordinary D.T.C. operated buses only; and on National Highway No. 30 be got cons- tructed without any alternation in the origi- (c) if so, whether Government propose nal layout approved in 1966 ; to make these passes valid for Deluxe, Point (b) whether after the above direction, to Point, Railway specials and night buses the initially accepted tender of Rs. 20 Iakhs also? was later on rejected and a new tender of Rs. S4 lakhs was accepted and only two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE columns or the proposed bridge across the DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- Poon POOn river were constructed as a PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : (a) Yes, Sir. result of which the people of this area are facing difficulties as before; and (b) Yes, Sir. (c) whether Government have taken or (c) No such proposal is under conside- propose to take any concrete steps to com- ration of the Delhi Transport Corporation. plete the construction work of this bridge soon, after cO..lducting an enquiry, if any, Amalgamation of Air-India, Indian into this matter '? Airlines and Vayudoot THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- 7042. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) Yes, JEE : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be Sir. The alignment for approaches to the pleased to state : bridge was to follow that approved in 1966. (a) whether any proposal to amalgamate (b) The offers received during the initial Air India, Indian Airlines and Vayudoot is tender caJl were kept in abeyance till the under considerations ; finalization of the alignment of road between Patna and Mokameb. Subsequently after (b) if so, the details of the proposal; finalization of the said alignment of tbe road, fresh tenders were invited and a (c) the benefits expected on the basis of revised estimate based on the tender was new proposals ; and sanctioned for Rs. 53.50 lakhs. The work was taken up thereafter. When part work on (d) tbe manDer in whiCh service condi- the bridge i.e. construction of two pier tions of tbe personnel in these airlines will foundations and one abutment were nearly be affected ? completed, the contractor abandoned the work and the work is at stand still. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB existing bridge bas been repaired to maintain DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION the traffic. (SHRI JAGD)SH TYTLER) : (a) to (d). A suggestion for amalgamation of Air India (c) Steps to complete the balance work with Indian Airlines is under preliminary bave been initiated. There is DO question of examination. No concrete view has been conducting an enquiry into this matter. taken. 163 Wriltell Answers APRIL 17, 1986 Written A.nswers 164 AdmiDistering of Fungus Cootaiminated (b) whether his Ministry is aware that Glucose to a Child the daily traffic in that section has increased and the poor condition of the road results 7043. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI in a numb~r of accidents; KHAN: (c) whether i( is a fact that the National SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Highway No.7 is being strengthened with a SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : loan from World Bank ; SHRI KAMLAPRASAD SINGH; (d) the time by which that Section of Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMI- highway is proposed to be improved by not LY WELFARE be pleased to &tate : mix process ; and (a) whether the attention of Union (e) whettter there are any proposal of Government has been drawn to the news Andhra Pradesh Government in this regard? item captioned 'Fungus found in glucose bottle' appearing in the Hindustan Times of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7 February, 1986 wherein condition of a DEPARTMENT OF SURFAC"'E TRANS- child became deteriorating due to a fungus PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) and contaiminated glucose being administered; (b). No, Sir. Kamareddy Adilabad Section of National High\\-ay No, 7 is traffic-worthy. (b) if so, the details thereof; The traffic on thi" Section ha~ increased as In the cal)e of other National Higbways in (c) whether similar case~ have also been the country No specific report about in- reported from other hospitals J n Delhi; crease in accidents due to poor condition of and the road has been received. (d) whether any equiry ba<; been conduc- (c) to (e). No, Sir. A 'Jtretch of 50 kn1s. ted by the Union Government and jf so. length from km. 390 to 440 of Nagpur- findings tbereof ? Hyderabad Section and 9~ kms. from km. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 2'2./0 to 120/0 o( Hyderabad Bangalore Sec- DEP-'\RTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE tion were earlier contemplated for strengthe- (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) The ning under the WorJd Bank Loan Assistance Government is aware of the Press report. Scheme. But it is now proposed to take up these only under the normal Plan. Estimates (b) It has been reported by Delhi Ad- in this regard hlve been received from the ministration that investigations carried out State PWO. This work, when sanctioned, is by Drug In!pectors of Delhi Admiqistration expected (0 be completed in about four years indicated that the child wa\ not administer- time denending upon availability of funds. ed any fungus contaiminated g'ucose in Dr. B.L. Kapoor Hospital. Irrigation Projecb of Karnataka Awaiting Clearance (c) No Sir. 7045. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: (d) Does not arise. Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be pleased to state: Improvement of Nagpur-Hyderabad Section of National Highway No.7 (a) the oan1es of tbe major and medium irrigation projects of Karnataka State pen .. 7044. SHRI T. BALA GOUD : WiJJ the ding clearance with the Government of Minister of TRANSPO R T be pleased to India; state: (b) since when these irrigation prOjects Ca) whether Kamareddy to AdiIabad are pending ror clearance; and Section (distance 200 kms.) of the National Bipway No.7 from NafPur to lfYdcrabad (c) the reason~ for delay in clearing the ;, in a bad CODdition ; laid project. ? 165 W,.,tten An~we"S' CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Wrille" A"swers 16(; THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- (b) if so, what steps have been taken to SOURCES (SHRI B. SHAKARANAND): remove such shortfall ; (a) to (c). The GGvernment of K'lmataka (c) what is the Dumber of institutions in have sent the following irrigation project the country imparting training in water reports to Central Water Commission. They management. with locations thereof ; and are pending clearance for want of certain clarifications from the State Government (d) what is the yearly intake capacity Estimated Date of of each such institution ? co<;t receipt of (Rs. project THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- crores) report SOlJRCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): in C.W.C. (a) to (d) In view or the shortage or train- ed personnel in Water Management, Water Major Seheme~ and Land Management Io'titutes have so t. Bhima Lift 45.75 19.12.1985 far been eCjtablished in ten States viz. Andbra 2. Bhima flow 43.49 1.10.1981 Pradesh. Bihar ~ Gujarat, Kamataka, Maha- 3. Hipparagi 124.16 1,12. t 985 rashtra, Madbya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu and Uttar Pradesh. While the 4. Karanja 60.00 16.08.1983 Institute in Maharashtra is functioning since s. Upper Krishna 1980, the ethers are in various stages or Stage-II 783.44 5.02.1982 development. The intake capacity varies from Medium Schemes Institute to Institute. the maximum being of the 625 not in W AL MI, Maharashtra. 1. Yagachi 35.30 15.03.1985 2. Arkavathy 22.25 16.05.1985 Sharing of Krishna Waters by Maharasbtra Kamataka and Aodbra Pradesh Lack of facilities at Kalaikunda Railway Station 7048. SHRI B.D. PATIL : Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be 7046. SHRI NARAYAN CHAUBEY pleased to state : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleas- ed to state: (a) wbether it is a fact that under Krishna Tribunal Award quotas of Krishna (a) whether it is a fact that the ra.ilway river have been allocated to Mabarashtra, siding at Kalaikunda RJ.ilway station in Karnataka and Andbra Pradesh States ; Kharagpur division of the South Eastern Railway has no proper facilitie'§ like ade- (b) whether it is a fact that review IS to quate shed. lighting. dnnking water etc. and be taken after 31~t March. 2000, as regards that repeated repre ... entat;ons have been made water utilisation and availability of water for in this regard : ~nd reallocation ; (b) what j, the income of the Railwa)s (c) if so, whether Maharashtra, Kama- from the siding for the years 1983. 1984 and taka and Andhra Pradesh States have sub- 1985 ? mltted any proposals (or utilisation of THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Krishoa Water; (SHRI BANSI LAL) ; {t} and (bl. The in- (d) if so, out of these proposals bow formation is being colkcted and will be laid many have been sanctioned and bow many on the Table of the Sabha. are pending State-wise ; and Sbortage of Trained Persoonel ;0 Water Management (e) since when the aforesaid proposab are pending and reasons theret'or '1 7047 .. SHRI B.D. PATIL : Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be THE MINISTER OF WATER RE- pleased to state : SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND) : (8) Yes Sir. (a) whether it is a fact tbat tbere is shortfall or trained personnel in water (b) The Tribunal Order may be review- management in the country ; ed after the 31st Ma" '2000" 167 Writtm .dllSWers APRIL 17. 1'86 Written Answers 168 (c) Yes Sir. Spray witb Dieldrin etc. to coutal n FUarialis under W.H.O. Supervision (d) and (e). 26 schemes of Maharashtra. 7050. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : 12 schemes of Kamataka and one scheme of WiU the Minister of HEALTH AND Andhra Pradesh have been approved. 6 FAMILY WELFARE be pleasod to state: projects sent by Maharasbtra and 4 projects sent by Karnataka from 1981 onwards are the reference js to the case In which an Cadmacb Double Rotary Madafae aad accident victim with bead injuries was Colloid MiD for Government brought to Central Hospital of Northern Medical Store Depot. Railway in a three-wheeler scooter. The Madras injured person was attended to immediately both by the Casualty Doctors on duty and 70S3. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM : Will the Surgeon to cal], As it was diagnosed as the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY a case of head injury needing urgent Neuro- WELFARE be pleased to state: Suraical assessment by 'Cat.. Scan' investiaa- tion and possible Intracranial operative (a) whether one Cadmach Double Ro- treatment, tbe patient was advised that it was tary Tablet machine and Cadmach colloid in his Own interest to immediately go to Dr. mill proposed to be acquired for Govern- Ram Manohar Lobia Hospital for necessary ment Medical Store Depot, Madras have 'Cat-Scan' investigation as 'Cat-Scan' inves- since been acquired "y this dopot ; tigation facili ties do not exist at the Central (b) if not, what are the impediments in Hospital of the Northern Railway. As a part procuring these items for this depot factorY ; of.th. obligation on the Medical Profession and and the Medical Practitioners, all such emergency cases whether or not they belong (c) what other machinery items are pro- to the Railways are admitted to the Railway posed to be procured to step up Hospitals without any discrimination. Even production ? Railway"employees needing such specialised investigative procedures or treatment, as are THE DEPUTY MlNISTBR IN THE not available in Railway Hospitals, are DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE referred to other Hospitals like All India (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) No, Institute of Medical Sciences/Dr. Ram Sir. Manohar Lobia Hospital which are equip- ped with such facilities. (b) Due to paucity of funds, it has not been possible to procure these two machines. (b) Does not arise. (c) No other macbinery items are pro- Proposal for Modernising Factory of posed to be procured for the Government Government Medical Store Medical Store Depot, Madras. Depot, Madras 70S2. SHRI M. MAHA\LINGAM : Win Representation to Merge Biological Lab. the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY and Animal Hoose witb Government WELFARE be pleased to state: Medical Store Depot, Madras (a) whether there is any proposal pend- 7054. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM: Will ing approval with Goyernment to modernise the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY the depot factory of Government Medical WELFARE b: pleased to ::,tate : Store Depot, Madras; (a) whether any representation bas been (b) whether any proposal i. pending for received either by the Directorate General manufacturing of injcctablea/!'ransfusion of Health Services, New Delhi or the Minis- nuids and if so, wben win it be cleared; try of Health and Famil, Welfare in. the and recent past, from the recognised trade (c) details of new machineries proposed Unions of Govoramcnt Medical Depot, to be acquired for the first stage of its Madras to merge.. the BiolOilical Lab. and expansion programme? Animal House witb Government Medical Store Depot, Madras from economic point THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of view; DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) (c) if so, tbe acti on Government have Posting of HOlDe Guards at DTC Bus taken in the matter ? Stops THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 7056. SHRI BANWARI LAL DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE BAIRWA : Will the Minister of TRANS- (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR>: (a) No, PORT be pleased to state: Sir, The proposal only relate~ to closure of whether a decision has been taken the Biological wing and the transfer of the to post Home Guards at DTC bus stops Chemical Wing to tbe Government Medical from 1 April, 1986 for the convenience of Stores Depot, Madras. passengers; and (b) No Sir. (b) if so, the duties and powers being given to Home Guards posted at bus stops? (c) Does not arIse. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Translation] DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) Yes~ New addition to DTC Beet Sir. The DTC has engaged 500 Home Guards from 1st April, 1986 on an experi- 7055. SHRI BANWART LAL menta) basis for a period of ODe month. BAIRWA: Will the Minister of TRANS- They have been posted at important bus PORT be pleased to state : stops in the City operational area. (a) whether Government propose to (b) The Home Guards will be responsi- add 300 more buses to the existing fleet of ble to inculcate a regular queue formation Delhi Transport Corporation ; habit among commuters and to ensure pro- per parking of buses at the stops. They are (b) if so, whether only 300 additional also required to ensure safe alighting/board- buses will be able to cater to the needs of ing of buses by the commuters. These Home increasing population of Delhi ; and Guards personnel are not vested with any specific powers, dirferent from those availa- (c) if not, the remedial measures pro- ble to other DTe employees. posed to be taken ? [EnglWa] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Memoranda Submitted by All India Motor DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- Transport Congress, New Delhi POR.T (SHRI RA]ESH PILOT): (a) During 70S7. PROF. NARAIN CHAND the year 1986-87 DTC proposes to pur- PARASHAR : WiU the Minister of TRANS- chase 643 buses {36 on replacement account POR T be pleased to state : and 607 additions account) subject to availa- bility of adequate resources. Funds already (a) whether the All India Motor Trans- allocated will be sufficient to purcha~e 460 port Congress. New Delhi has submitted buses. memoranda demandmg inter-alia reduction of diesel price, abolition of check-posts at (b) and (C). 202 chassis purchased in State borders, reduction of excise duty on 1985-86 are currently under body-building truck/bus, withdrawal of excise duty OD and will join the fleet by the end of May, bodies of trucks and buses. implementation 1986. Further, 100 privately operated buses of the recommendations of the Satyapal are proposed to be added to tbe neet very Committee Report and recommepdations of aeon. Combined with the existing fleet this the Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices to sbould be better able to order to the imme- tbe Government in the month of March, diate travelling needs of Delhi's population. 1986 ; (b) if so, the details of the demands In the long run, to meet the growing made and the action taken thereon; and demand for travelling facilities to Govern- ment has set up a Workina Group to sugpst (c) tbe likely date by whicb tho action is alternate modes of transport for Metropo- proposed to be taken and the reaaGDS for litan cities including Delhi. the delay? 173 Writt~n Answers CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 174 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Whereas no separate body as such. was DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS. constituted, a High Level Committee was PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : (a) to (c). set up in January, 1 )85 to go into the ques- The demands put forward in the memoranda tion of reducing congestion at Bombay submitted by All India Motor Transport Airport. 011 the basis of the recommenda- Congress included abolition of octlOj in all tions made by that Committee, and subse- the States within two months: reduction of quent traffic surveys conducted by Inter- diesel price by 30% ; uniform price of diesel national Airports Authority of India, it has throughout the country; improvement of been observed that declaration of some more the road surface of all the existing highways airports as international airport would help to be completed with the first half of the in relieving congestion at Bombay Airport. Seventh Plan; reduction of excise duty on truck/bus to 10 % ; withdrawal of excise (c) The Government have no such pro- duty on bodies of truck and buses; rationa- Dosal under consideration. at present. lisation of vehicle price on cost basis; Construction of Under Railway Tracks immediate implementation of recommenda- Towards North of Mebsana Railway tions of Satyapal Committee Report and of Station (Western Railway) the Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices relating to tyres ; the uniformity in rules 7059. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the and regulations, taxation Jaws on road Minister of TRANSPORT be pJeased to transport; reduction in the com;1o~ite fee on state: national permits; stopping the system of (a) when the ur,der-railway-track towards charging undischarged transit pa!ses in UP north of Mehsana Railway Station (Western to road transporters not connected with the Railway) was constructed ; road transport; land on lease basis in Transport Nalars ; easy finances from Com- (b) whether the road traffic on this mercial Banks for vehicle purchase and under-track narrow passage at Bhamariya wider coverage of insurance policy. These Naka nt=ar Gopj Cinema. increased manifold numeruus demands fall within the purview si.lJce ~hen, resulting in accidents these of different Departments at the Centre and days; State Governments, who have been addres- (c) whether any request from ~f.Ps. and sed for an urgent action in the matter. r..1.L.As. from Gujarat to widen this under. Upgrading Airports into International track passage su as to allow smooth and Airports ~afe traffic was recehed ; and (d) if so, the details thereof: 7058. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will the Minister (Jf TRANSPORT be THE MI~ISTER OF TRANSPORT pleased to state ; (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) f:1 the year 1944. permission to pass light vehicular (a) whether Government have constitu- traffic under railway track throu5h an ted a separate body to go into tbe details to existing bridge on north of Mehsana Station recommend some of the existing Airports was granted. for upgrading to the level of International Airports ; (b) Road traffic has increased since it was permitted through railway bridge. (b) if so, the number of airports propo- Regirding road accidents matter concerns s~d to be cO'lverted/ldentified ; and State Government/Local Road Authority. (c) whether convers:on of Bhubaneswar (c) and (d). Request was received for Airport into an International Airport is wldening of existing bridge. The proposal being considered keeping in view the fact was examined but has not been found tech- that Orissa attracts a large number of inter. nically feasible. national tourists ~ General Sales Agents of I.A. and A. I. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7060. SHRI SIMON TIGGA : Will DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION the Minister or TRANSPORT be pJea4ied to (SHRI JAODISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). f)tate : 175 Wrlt/~1I AIlSW~rs APRIL 17. 1986 Written An.rw~rs 116 (a) the n'lmber of Goneral Sales Agents Assam.; MeghaJaya, Mani- 01 Indian Airlines and Air India in the pur. Mizoram, Arunachal country state-wise ; Pradesh, Nagaland and Tripura. (b) details of the business done through these General Sales Agents with the amount (ii) lanta : Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, of commission paid to them in the tast three Travels Chandigarh, Haryana, years year-wise ; Pvt. Ltd .. Union Territory of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Jammu (c) whether there is a proposal to ap- and Kashmir and Rajas- point more General Sales Agents in the near than. future; (iii) Arya Bihar, Orissa, Welt (d) if so, the details thereof; and Travels Bengal, (Excluding tbe Metropolitan City of if (e) not, the reasons therefor? Calcutta), Assam~ Aruna- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE chal Pradesh, Meghalaya, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION Manipur, Mizoram, Naga- (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) While land and Tripura. Indian Airlines have no General Sales Agents in India, Air India have three General Sales Management of AurovilJe Agents viz. Indian Airlines, Janta Travels 7061. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA Pvt. Ltd. and Arya Travels. Tbe territories Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE represented by them are given in the state- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : ment below. (a) whether Sri Aurobindo Society has (b) The information is being collected made a proposal of managing the Auroville and will be laid on the table of the House. as an alternative to Government Manage- (c) No, Sir. ment; (d) Does not arise. (b) whether an assurance in Parliament was given that Government would consider (e) Indian Airlines is wen represented at a viable proposal for the management of the all passenger and carg" generating points by Auroville as tbe intention of Government either its own offices or by PassengerICargo was to remain in management only for a Sales Agents. The existing General Sales temporary perjod ; and Aaents adequately represent Air India within (c) if so, action Government have taken tbe cou&try. on this proposal SO far ? STATEMENT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND TERRITORIES REPRESENTED BY CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- THE THREE GENERAL T AOI) : (a) A general suggestion bas been SALES AGENTS received. (i) Indian India, excluding the (b) Yes, Sir. Airlines cities of Bombay. Cal.. cutta. Madras, Punjab, (c) SUlgestions and proposals received Haryan8, Himachal Pra- from different quarters will be given due to deah, Chandigarh, consideration while formu)atilll a permanent Kerala, Union Territory solution. of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, A&Utional FlIDds to M/O Human Jammu and Kasbmir, Rajasthan and Bibar, ReIOaree Development Orissa, BaogaJore , 7062. SHRt SODe RAMAIHA: Will Ahmedabad, PODC, By- the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE derabad, West DeDp), DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : 177 Written Answers CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) (a) whether it Is a fact that Rs. 108 T AGI): (a) The Department of Education crores have been sanctioned to the Ministry had obtained a SupJ)lemeotary Grant of of Human Resource Development in addition Rs. 110.07 crores during 1985-86. This to the normal budgetary allocation; and amount included an anocation of Rs. 108 crores which was obtained for augmenting (b) if 80, the break up of the expeQdi- the provision made for certain Plan schemes ture of the additional allocation? in the budget for 1985-86. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) A Statement showing the break-up DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND of the expenditure of additional allocation CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- Rs. 108.00 crores is given below. STATEMENT PROGRAMME/SCHEME-WISE BREAK UP OF THE ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF RS. 108 CRORES ALONG WITH EXPENDITURE INCURRED THERE AGAINST DURING 1985-86 (Figures in crores of Rupees) S. No. Programme/Scheme Additional Expenditure incurred budget dwing 85-86 allocation against additional alJocatioD School Education 1. Non-formal Education 21.~3 2.65 2. Model Schools 25.58 1.23 3. Teachers Training 3.41 1.90 Adult Education 4. Rural Functional Literacy Projects 11.00 0.84 S. Assistance to Voluntary Organisations 4.00 323 6. Mass Movement for Literacy 9.00 University lHigber Education 7. University Grants Commission Schemes 6.00 3.86 Technical Education 8. Community Polytechnics 9.00 8.75 9. Removal of Obsolescence 12.00 12.00 10. For Indian Institutes of Technology, Regional Engineering Colleges and Indian Institute of Managements 3.40 3.40 11. Language Development 2.17 12. Scholarships 0.91 Total 108.00 37.83 NB: The expenditure figures indicated above are provisional. Thtre may be slight variation when final accounts for tbe yeat 1985-86 are received, 179 W,.itlm Answers APRIL 17, 1986 Writt." A.aswen 180 Proposal to Implement ICDS Projects in [Translation] Guntnr and Prakasam Districts of A.P. Cultural Agreement with U.S.S.R. 7063. SHRI C. SAMBU: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- 7064. SHRI TARLOCHAN SINGH LOPMENT be pleased to state: TUR: SHRI BALWANT SINGH (a) whether there is a proposal to start RA'dOOWALIA: Integrated Children Development Services Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Programme at Cburtda in Prakasam District, 9 DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: through Scheduled Tribe s Welfare Organi- sation ; and (a) whether a cultural agreement has recently been signed between India and (b) the total number and details of U.S.S.R. ; Integrated Children Development Service programmes functioning in the Guntur and (b) if so, whether under this agreement Prakasarn Districts of Andhra Pradesh and cultural and hterary programmes will be number of those projects Implemented organised in different parts of the country through Scheduled Tribe's and Scheduled for one year ; and Caoste's Welfare Org.lnisations in Guntur and Prakasam Distri cts ? (C) if so, whether India delegated parti- cipating in Indian programmes organised in THE MINISTER OF SfATE IN THE U S.S. R. will be enjoying the same facilities DEPART~IENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS which U.S.S.R. delegates WIll enjoy in India? AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- FARE (SHRIMATI MARGRET ALVA) : THE MINISTER OF ST ~TE IN THE (a) No such proposal has been received in DEPl'RTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND this Ministry from the Governm'!nt of CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) An agreefllent has recently Andhra Pradesh. been signed between India and U.S.S.R. to hold Festival of India In U S.S.R. and (b) Guntur and Prakasam Di~tricts of Festival of U.S S R. in India. Andbra Pradesh presently have the foHowing ICDS projects; (b) Yes, Sir. (i) Guntur Districts : (c) Yes, Sir. (\) Gunlm Town (Urban) [English] (2) Macherla (Rural) Allotment of ",'agons for Transportarion (3) Pallapatla (Rural) of Salt, Coal, and Fertilisers to (ii) Prakasam Districts : Gujarat during 1985.86 (1) Yerrangondaplam (Rural) 7065. SHRI C.D. PATEL: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to (2) Ongolc Town (Urban) state ; (3) Vetapalam (Rural) (a) whether the Government of Gujarat (4) Ulavapadu (Rural) has reque~ted the Department of Railways (5) Kanigiri (Rural) to load as per linkage and also increase the linkage by 30,000 tODnes for two power ICDS projects are implemented by the houses of Ahmedabad and Ukai in order to State Government. Implementation can meet the urgent reqUirement of agriculture also be entrusted to voluntary organisations. and industry; I t is being ascertained from Government ~f Andhra Pradesh whether implementation (b) whether Government of Gujarat has or any of the above-mentioned ICDS also requested to load coal from linked proj8CtS has been entrusted to any organi- fields preferably from underground mines, sarion(s) lor the welfare of Scheduled Tribes to power houses in Gujarat to ensure better and Schedulod CUtes. quality. 181 Written Answers CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 (c) whether it is a fact that large pro- which was not only met but exceeded in duction capacity remained unutilised in 1985 .. 86. various industries in the State due to marked decrease in the allotment of coal wagons; The salt loading stations on Western Railway are located mostly in Gujrat. (d) what was the approved aJlotment of There has been progressive improveme~lt wagons for different types of coal in 1985 in loading of salt from Western Railway 9 and 1986 against the State 3 I(:quirement ; from 1.66 million tonnes in 1983-84 to 1.95 minion tonnes in 1984-85 and further 2.12. (e) how many registrations for salt and million tonnes in 1985-86. Still there were fertiliser despatches are pending with the pending indents for 37800 wagons on railways ; and Western Railway on 31.3.1986, but 17600 of these demands are for only one state (f) what immediate action union i.e. Uttar Praoe~h. A balanced distribution Government propose to take to avert the of demand for different states would help in crises? overall movement. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (f) Railways have lifted 257.65 million (SHRI BANSI LAL): (~) Yes, Sir. The tonnes of revenue earning traffic in 1985-86 loading is being done as per the linkage and against a target of 250.00 million tonnes. offer of coal by the coal companies. The The actual movement is thus better than the linkages of Ahmedabad and Ukai thelmal target fixed by the Government for power stations have already been increased Railways. by the Standing Linkage Committee from January 1986 onwards by 20,000 tonnes and Air Stations Linked with Vayudoot Service 40,000 tonnes per month respectively. 7066. SHRI HUSSAlN DALWAI: .Will (b) The loading of coal for power houses the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased is done from the linked source, as per offer to state which are the air stations that are given by the coal companies. brought under the map of Civil Aviation by Vayudoot at present, with State-wise break- (c) Railways ;oaded 100.68 Jnil1ion up? tonoes of revenue earning coal in 1985-86. (prov), compared to 91. 58 million tonnei ~n THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1984-85, constituting an almost 10 per cent DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION increase. Railways were directed to move (SHRI JAGDISH. TYTLER): A statement more coal for the power bouses, within this listing the stations airlinked by VayuJ jot in overalJ increase in allotment (If coal wagons. various States is given below: However, availability of steam coal is Jes'i: than the demand. STATEMENT (d) The ceiling limit~ of differeot types States Stations for coal for Gujarat in 1985 and 1986 are given below : 1. Assam Guwahati. Silchar, Lila bari, Dibrugarh. (in terms of wagons per month) ....'"' Andbra Hyderabad, Rajamundry, Types of coal 1985 198v Pradesh Cuddapab, Tirupatbi, Stearn 3175 2875 Warrangal, Slack 260 285 Vishakbapatnam. 225 Soft Coke 150 3. Bihar Jamsbedpur, Ranchi, Hard coke 275 275 Patna. Coke fractions 400 510 4. Gujarat Kandla, Surat,. Bbavanaar. (c) Railways loaded 13.54 miUion tonnes of fertilisers in 1985-86 against a target of 5. Haryana Hissar. 10.50 million tonnes. Movement of fertiliser 6. Himachal Kulu by rail is arran&ed OD a progtammed basis Pradesh 183 Writle" Answers APRIL 17, '986 Written Amwers 184 7. Karnataka Mysore, Bangalore, each school winning first position in each Dellary discipline in the distnct 1evel tournament held in Athletics, Hockey, Football. Basket- 8. Madbya Ouna, Gwalior, Indore. ball and Volleyball separataly for both boys Pradesh and girls, exc.ept for football where the 9. Maharasbtra Bombay, pune, tournamt:nt will be only for boys. Ratnagiri, Aurangabad, (c) and (d). Tbe scheme seeks to give Nanded. a fair chance to rural schools by excluding 10. Megbalaya Shillong, (rom its purview certain category of schools which have inherent advantages over such 11. Orissa Rourkela, Bhubnesbwar. rural schools. 12. Punjab Ludhiana 13. Rajastban Kota, Jaipur, Bikaner, Air-Iadi.'I Income from Gulf Passengers Jai~almer, Jodhpur 7068 SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- 14. Uttar Pradesh Dehradud, Paotnagar, CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of Kanpur, Rae Bareli, TRANSPOR T be pleased to state : Agra, Allahabad. (a> whether it is a fact rthat a major 15. West Bengal Calcutta. Cooch Behar. portion of the re~enue and profit earned by Union Territories Air India is from Gulf p8SleDgers ; I 1. Arunachal Zero, Passighat (b) what is the estimated income to Air i Pradesh India durina 1985-86 Crom Gulf passengers 2. Chandigarh Cbaudigarh and from pas~ngers from other countries respectively ; and 3. Delhi Delhi 4. Mizoram Aizawl (c) whether complaints have been recei- ved by Government £rom Indian Passengers Ioceatfre Sdteme for Promotion of from/to Gulf countries to the effect that tbey Sports Bad Games in Schools are not receiving adequate services OD board in Air India flights ? 7067. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Win the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER) : (a) Yes, SIr. (a) whether Government have intro- duced an incentive scheme for promotion (b) The estimated revenue from Gulf of sports and games in schools all over the routes on scheduled services for the year country ; :985-86 is Rs. 317.77 crores and from otber routes Rs. 464.8 crores. (b) if so, the board detaIls of the scheme and when this is going to be implemented; (c) Whenever any complaint is received in regard to the services provided OD board (c) whether the scheme has any rural Air India's aircraft, remedial action is taken. bias where tbe development of spOrts is iD a neaIectod state ; and Allotment of Wagons for TransportatiOD of Salt frolh Gajarat (d) if so, the details thereof? 7069. SHRI AMARSINB RATHAWA; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Wilt the Minister of TRANSPOR.T be DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS pleased to state : AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFARE (SHRIM ATI MARGARET whether it is a fact that the waaoas ALVA) : (a) Yes, Sir. allotted for liftinS salt from Gujarat are much less tban tbe requirement ; and (b) The scheme, which is already befDg processed for implementation, envisages (b) if so. the details of the wa&DDI awardiJ1l cuh prizes of Rs. 10,000/- to supplied doriD. the Jast three months aDd J 8S W"itt~" Answ~r8 CHAITRA 27.. 1908 (SAKA) Writte" Answer8 186 what are the reasons for not meeting the of tho recommendations made by tbe demand? National Commission. on teacbers recently? THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (b) 14562 Broad Gauge wagons and ROBTAGI): The recommendations of 10356 Metre Gauge wagons were loaded National Commissions OD Teachers-I and II with salt during three months from January are under examination 0f the lovernment. to March 1986 which is 12% more than the correspondinl period of last year. The Procedure for marketiDg pennissioa of demand of various Stat~ is generally being New Drugs met as per programme. 7072. SURI VISHNU MODI : Will tbe Resenation of Posts fo .. Women Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Teachers in PrImary Schools WELFARE be pleased to state : 7070. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Will (a) whetber new chemical entity, a drug the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE which has been approved for certam indica... DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : tions proposed to be used for another indica- tion and a combination of two or more (a) whether it is a fact that female drugs although approved individually are teachers are better suited for imparting proposed to be combined in a fixed dose education to children upto primary level ; formutation are all defined as New Drugs as per rule 30A of Drul &: Cosmetic Rule (b) if so, whether Government would 1945 ; consider making suitable reservation of posts for female teachers for Primary education (b) what are the details of set procedure all over country; and for New Drugs as defined in part (a) for marketing permission in the country ; (c) whether this question was taken up by Union Government with the States at any (e) whetber centain permissions were time and, if so, their reaction in this sranted ignoring tbe set procedure; and regard 7 (d) if 10. details of such cases and under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE what circumstances ? DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA THE DEPUTY MIN iSTBR IN THE ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). It has been felt DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE that employing female teachers at the (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and (b). Explanation under Rule 30A tbe Drugs primary stage may help jncrea~e enrolment, decrease dropout rates and sta8natioD amODg '" Cosmetics Rules. although covers the female students. However. reservation of various possibilities which would constitute posts for female teachers for primary classes a 'new drUg\ the "Guidelines for Intcoduc- cannot be recommended outright. Apart tion of New DrulS~·. very clearly mentions from other reasons such as legal and admi- what would constitute a New drugs, namely ; nistrative female teachers in sufficient (i) a new chemical entity (NCB) ; (ii) a drug which has been appro~ for certain indica. Dumbers are Dot readily available~ particu- tion by a certain route, in a certain dosage larlY for the rural areas. reaimeD, but which is now proposed to be (c) No, Sir. used for another indication. by aaotber route, or in another dOS88e relimen; (iii) a ReeommeadatioDS OD NatJooaJ Puel combination of two or more drugs wbich, ofT_eben althouah approved individually, are proposed to be combined for the first time in a fixed 7071. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Will dose formulation. The guidolines give the the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE detailod procedure and data required reprd- DBVELPOMENT be pleased to state the iDa the safety aDd elBcacy of a new dnlg reactions of Union Government to each ODe molecule iDCludin& other requirements such 187 Writte" !n.~Wt'''S APRIL 17, 1986 W,ilten Answers 188 as the statu'S of the drug in other countries (b) Licences of concerned pilots have etc. before permission is granted to conduct been suspended. clinical trials in India as well as marketing permission in the country. Reyiew of Working of P.H.Cs. (c) and (d). Licences for the manufacture 7075. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD and sale of the formulations are granted by SETHI: Will the Minister of HEALTH the State Drugs Control Authorities. This AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to Ministry is Dot aware whether .cena_in per- state: missions were granted by them Ignoring the (a) whether Government are sal isfied set procedure outlIned in tbe guidelines. with the pr.gress made so far by the Primary Health Centres in the country Proposal to issue (Boarding Passes' particularly in the tnbal and rural areas; to air passengers and 7073. SHRI )\.fOHD. MA -JFOOZ ALI (b) whether Government have reviewed KHAN: W,ll the MlOic;ter of TRANSPORT the working of these Primary Health Centres be pleased to sta te : and have issued some fresh directions to (a) wnether Government propose to issue make them more effective ? 'Boarding passes' to the air passengers at the THE DEPUTy MINISTER IN THE time of issuing air tickets to tbe passengers DEPARTMBNT OF FAMILY WELFARE making day trips; and (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (8) and (b) if so, h~w do Government propose (b). The Working of the Primary Health to ensure that the 'boarding passes' issued in Centres is constantly reviewed through advance of the air journey are not misused periodical reports, field visits and studies. by any undesirable person for ulterior Primary Health Centres have emerged as motives ? strong focal point for the provision of health and family welfare services to the people in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the rural areas. The inflastructure aet up has DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION significantly contributed to tbe success of the (SHRI JAGDISH TYT~ER): (a) and (b). Health and Family Welfare programmes. The modalities to implement this proposal are being worked out. The major factors tbat have inhibited utilisation of health facilities at primary Fiodings of Inquiry ioto Calcutta-Kathmandu health centres are ; full complement of stafr Flight Incident not in position; medicines not available in an adeGuate measure; lack of transporta- 7074. SHRf MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI tion ; unsympathetic behaviour of health KHAN : Will tbe Minister of TRANS- staff; low motivation ; in several cases sheer PORT be pleased to state: distance etc. (a) whether tbe Court of Inquiry heJd by Step~ taken by the Government to make the Director General, Civil Aviation into the Primary Health Centres effective institu- the Boeing 737 incident in February, 1985 tions include reducing the populatioD cover- during Calcutta-Kathmandu flipt bas given age by the PHC, increased allocation of this findings ; and funds for rural health in the 7th Plan, special dispensation for hou.in" house rent allow- (b) if so, tbe detatil of the action tabol ance and rural allowance by the Eighth propose4 to be taken by the Government in Finance CommissioD to the States for doctors the matter 1 &erVin, in the rural areas, uainiDl of medical and para-medical workers, etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION Poor Quality Food Supplied Ie GaJf (8) whether Government have received Abu-Dhabi, Bahrain. These stations are any complaints from Indian passengers beiDg supervised by India-based Air India flying from and to Gulf Countries regarding Officers who are given specific guidelines and the quality of food supplied to them on Air who monitor and supervise flights regularly. )nd ia flights ; and Air India's Senior Catering Officers are deputed to these stations for periodical (b) if so, the steps taken to ensure better checks_ Jeddah is not a major meal upli~ catering on the flights '1 station any longer. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Supply of food at the airports con- DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION cerned is from local caterers who are not (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). Indian citizens. No, Sir. No complaints on quality of food (rom Indian passengers flying from and to Opening of P .H.es and C.H.es and llUIr by countries have been received Sob-Centres Government. However, the Quality of food is supervised by India based officers of Air- 7078. SHRJ A!-dARSINH RATHAWA: India posted at the Gulf Stations. Periodical SHRf CHINTAMANI lENA: checks are also carried out by deputing senior catering officers from Air India's SHRI ANANTA PRASAD Headquarters. SETHI: Will the MiniHer of HEALTH AND NOD-availability of catering personnel in FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to 5tate : Air India flights to Gulf (a) tbe number of Primary Health 7077. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RA~1A Centres, Community Health Centres and !)ub- CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of centres have so far been opened in each state TR.A~SPO R T be pleased to state : and pa.rticularly in the State of Orissa upto December, 1~85 ; STATEMNET NUMBER OF PRIMARY HEALTH CENTRES, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTRES AND SUB-CENTRES OPENED AS ON 31-12-1985" PROPOSED TO BE ESTABLISHED DURING 1986-87 State/UT Primary Community Sub- Target proposed for 1986-87 Health Health Coolies _------Contr. Centres PHC CHC SC 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1. Andhra Pradesh 963 26 6516 100 20 .soo 2. Assam 234 12 1711 35 7 ~OO 191 Wr;tt~n Answers APRIL 17, 1986 'Vritten Answer8 192 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 3. Bihar 774 50 7699 200 15 1000 4. Gujarat 310 21 5406 100 15 300 5. Haryana 158 4 1814 40 19 150 6 Himachal Pradesh 137 28 952 16 1 78 7. Jammu &: Kashmir 121 12 403 50 3 l~O 8. Karnataka 402 57 4914 50 300 9. Kerala 192 4 2245 144 2) 600 10. Madhya Pradesh 810 75 661:> lOO 10 700 11. Maharashtra 1343 146 6391 S(l 50 1200 12. Manipur 40 5 317 8 3 20 13. Megbalaya 41 2 274 9 2 50 14. Nagaland 49 1 153 2 25 15. Orissa 512 42 4127 100 10 200 16. Punjab 1706 10 2&>3 40 10 SO 17. Rajasthan 438 76 3790 40 10 500 18. Sikkim 18 82 1 20 19. Tamil N adu 698 30 6096 100 2 500 20. Tripura 74 3 239 2 3 25 21. Uttar Pradesh 1161 67 14545 SOO 56 ISO 22. West BeDgal 1155 22 6533 100 20 1500 23. A d: N Islands 6 32 2 1 8 24. Arunachal Pradesh 61 66 6 20 25. Chandigarh 5 1 10 26. D de N Haveh 3 16 1 4 27. Delhi 8 42 28. Goa, Daman de Diu 15 3 171 2 2 29. Laksbadweep 7 14 4 30. Mizoram 46 1 164 4 1 12 31 . Pondicbery 41 1 73 2 Total: It @As finalished by the P1anning Commission in tbe Aunual Plan discussions. Purchale 01 Dornier pJanes by Vayudoot Domier planes bas proved a poor decision as the planes are unable to meet the demand of 'i080. SHRI MANIK REDDY : passen,erl ; SHRI JAGANNA1H PATT- NAIK: (b) wbether it is also a fact that auembliD& of the planes is twice as expen- SHRI SIMON TIGGA : sive as importinl these; SHRI R.M. BHOYE : (c) whether the terms of purchase have Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be been unfavourable to tbe counte)' ; and pleased to state : (d) whether rising value of German (8) whether it is a fact that purchase Currency by about 30 per cent bas added to and introduction of very smaD 16 capacity the problem ? CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Orissa with details of proposed expansioDl, DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION if any 1 (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) No, Sir. THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSBILA (c) and (d). Do not arige. ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). The assistaoce given to the VoluDtary Agencies in tbe nine Early Childhood Education Programme educationally backward States under the 7081. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : scheme of assistance to Voluntary Agencies Will the Mloister of tiUMAN RESOURCE for Early Childhood Education during DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 1984-85 and 1985.86 and tbe number of ECB Centres !ct up is given in the statement (a) the details of assistance given State. below. wise in the last two years under tbe project "Early Childhood Education" Programme; In Orissa Early Childhood Education and Centres have been set up in the districts of Puri, Cuttack, Ganjam, Bala5ore, Sambalpur, (b) State-wise break-up of Ear1y Child- Keonjbar, Bolangir, Mayurbhanj, Koraput, bood Education Centres and their locations Phu)bani and DhenkanaI. STATEMENT STATEMENT REFERRED TO IN PARTS (a) & (b) OF THE UNSTARRED QUESTION NO. 7081 FOR 17.4.1986 BY SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS REGARDING EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION PROGRAMME S. State 1984-85 1985.86 No. Assistance Number of ------Assistance Number of Rs. Early Rs. Barly Childhood Clu1dbood Education Education Centres Centres 1. Andhra Pradesh 8,11,050 170 20,59,020 402 2. Bihar 83,350 10 1,52,530 20 3. Madhya Pradesh 1,85,175 35 4,01,645 72 4. OrisJa 4,36,305 96 ~,57,730 100 Rajasthan 3,30,650 74 10,53,781 190 6. Uttar Pradesh 3,18,630 71 5,22,735 91 7. West Bengal 6,27,382 148 9,17,392 146 Total 27,92,524 604 56,64,833 1021 CI_ioR Down ofGoadal Railway Workshop Railway Workshop of Saurashtra RqioD OD in Saurashtra Reaton (W.tem Western Railway : RaIlway) (h) if so, the reasons thereof; 7032. SHlUMATI PATBL RAMABEN (c) whether there are areat raeotmeats/ RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: Will the Minister protests from R.ailway staff. public press aDd 01 TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Chambers of Commerce ~IPs otc. ro:- this (a> wbother there is any proposal or any move ; 4ecisiOIl hu beea taken to 01_ Gon4a\ Qo,elDIIleDt will APRIL 17, 1986 reconsider the proposal/decision; and Books for Counteriog the Effect of TelevisioD (e) if so, when and if not, the reasons 7084. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the therefor? Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT LOPMENT be pleased to state: (SHRI BANSI L \L) : (a) and (b). Repair (a) whether eminent educationists and activities of the RoJling Stock on the Rail- writers in an International Seminar orga- ways are beiIlg J;'h~nf"l d on a rationalised ni~ed by National Book Trust on 10th basis with a view to have operational/cost F~bruarY9 }986 in New Delhi have recom- effective viable units. A proposal is undc:r mended that suitable books for children are consideration to ciose down Gondol Work- necessary for countering the effect of televi- s'·.op, keeping in view the preseot level of sion on them ; and olltturn of 14 four wheeler coaching units per month and the available staff strt'n~th of (b) if so, Governments reaction there- 228 men and the rUn down state C'f the to ? workshop. THE MINISTER OF STATE l~ THE (c) A few representations have been DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATIO~ AND received. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) An International Semi- (d) and (e). No firm decision has been nar on "Children and Books in an Informa- arrived at as yet and as such the question of tion Age" for countering the effect of tele- reconsideration does not arise. vi'\ion was organised by the National Book Trust from 8-10 February, 1986. A Com- Firm Censorship mittee was constituted to draft the recom- mendations of tbe seminar which have not 7083. SHRI SUNIL DUTT: Will the been finalised so far. Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- LOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise. (a) whether it is a fact that while Films Teachers. Training Institutes are under the juri~diction of the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting film censor- 7085. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : ship is uDder tbe juri5di;tion of the Ministry Wi)) the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE of Human Resource Development ; DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (a) the locations of the Teachers (b) whether it is proposed to transfer Training Institutes in the country under film cencorship to the Ministry of Informa- Early Childhood Education Programme and tion aod Broadcasting; and whether one such Institute is being set up In Orissa in consultation with the State (c) if Dot, the advantages accruing from Government ; and the present arrangement? (h) the number of teachers from Orissa THE ~nNlSTER OF STATE fN THE traided by the Teachers Training Institutes J)EPARTMENIS OF EDUCATlON AND and criteria for tht ir selection with details CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA as to whether Government aided schoo's ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes Sir F!11D censorship teacherl are trained or not? work was tran5ferrcd from tbe M;ni"try of JQform~tlon and Broadcasting only in SePf. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 1985. DEPARTNENTS OF BDUCA.TION AND CULTURB (SHllIMATI SUSHILA (b) No. SIr. ROHT AGI): (a) and (b). Teachers Training Institutes for Early Childhood ( ) It w ~s 'elt I hat it wIll be more Er1UCdtion are located in Andhra Pradesb, approprIate If th'! ~ uhject mdUe:- i, dC.Jit wuh G ujarat, Karnataka, Kerala. M jdhya Pra- by t"h~ M1ui .. try lit" Human Rcsou[~ Deve- dc:sh, Mabarashtra, Tamil Nadu. Uttar !Opm.eDt, Llcpartmcnt of Cullure. Pradesh and Delhi. CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Wrlttm Answerl 198 The department or education bas no dal Workshop in Saurashtra Region on proposal ror setting up such a teacher Western Railway without and addttiooal trainiDI institute in Orissa. scheme ; Since admh.sions to teacher training (b) what is the quantity and amount of institutes arc made by each institution Out-Turn work done in Gondal Workshop locally, the number of teachers trained from during the Ja~t three years; Orissa is not available with tbis department. (c) whether Junagadh and Bhavnagar Tr~nsportation of coal througb BOX 'N~ Workshop in Saurashtra Region on Western \Vagons Rai1way is having an initia, he scheme ft'r 7086 SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEK- rna k i'lg additional pa: ment to the staff; WAD SHRI AHMED M. PATEL (d) jf so, the details thereof and how much additional payment has been paid WIll the Minister of TRANSPORT be during 1980 to 85 (year-wise to Bhavnag Ir pleased to state: and Junagadh Railway worksnoi> e 1lp!oj'ees ; and (a) wh.!ther Government are av.are that power stJtions in Gujarat use about 60 Jakh (e) whether work of Gond ..il Work~ h.op met· ic tonnes of coal in tbe Thermal Power is economical as we') a, of better quality- Stat ions p~'r annun1 ; wile? (b) whether about 60% of this coal is being transported through BOX' N' wagons THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT wbich ha; the capacity of about 56 metric (SHRI BA "lSI LAL): (a) Pe:nodicaJ over- h:lul {fOH)/nominatej repJirs (~POH) to tonnts as minimum ; c03chio~ stock o1hc:r than coaches bUllt by (c) if so. the actual weighmc!Dt on recei- Integral Coach Fa~tory i~ being carried out vlOg the cOlI wagons, the capacity f\lund IS sathfactonly in Gondal Workshop. No around 50 to 52 metric tonnes and; Incentive Scheme of payment by results is in vogue at this workshop. (d) if so, whether tbe loss on account of under loading is borne by the Gujarat (b) The average monthly outtura of suc~ Electricity Board .) coachlDg stock at Gonda} Workshop for the THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT last three years in terms of four wheeler (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. units is as follows: (b) Yes, Sir. The minimum cbarge for Year POH NPOH Total weight presently is 5S metric tonnes. 1983-84 18.5 1.1 19.6 (c) BOX'N' wagons can conveniently 1984·85 18.1 0.58 18.63 accommodate 57 to 58 metric tonnes if they 198~-86 14.1 0.16 14.26 are correctly loaded. Any sbortaae is mainly due to improper loading. (c) An incentiv'! scheme of payment by (d) This concerns tbe coal companies re~u'ts has been in vogue in Bhavnagar supplying and loading tbe coal in wagons Workshop for Sl'me time but fur JunaSadh and tbe Gujarat Electricity Board. Workshop the scheme has been introduced only w.c.f. 1.4.1984. Outtum work done at GODdal worksbop (d) A statement gIving salient features io S .. urasbtra region of Incentive scheme of payment by results is 7087. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN given below. RAMJIBHAI MAVANI : Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: P.lyrl1ent'i made to the staff of Bha'·ll4g.tI and Junaladb Workshops against the incen- (a) whether it is a fact th..1t "Out Turn tive s:beme of payment by results duri1l8 tile Work" is catried OUt satisfactoriJy by 000- last five years is as follow. : Wrltt.. J4111tNt1 200 Year Bhavnapr Juoagadh sons while calculating the iOCCDtive perfor- Workshop Workshop mance. However, for idle time booked due (figs. in lubs of Rs.) to lack of work and lack of tools tbe Shop Chargemen/Mistry are dobited a fixed 1980-81 3.89 Nil percentage and necessary deductions are 1981-82 4.21 Nil made from the profits earned by tbe Charge- 1982-83 4.65 Nil mao/Mistry . 1983.84 4.27 Nil (8) While calculating allowed time 1984-85 4.19 1.10 various allowances like preparatory time, (e) GoDdal Workshop is a small Work- fatigue allowance, contingency allL wance shop witb a staff stren"th of 228 men. It is etc. are given and capability of earning 33 DOt a cost effective and economically viable 1/3% of inccntive bonus is in built in the unit. allowed time. STATEMENT "Leprosy among tribal. of Kerala" SALIENT FEATURE OF INCENTIVE 7088. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA- SCHEME IN RAILWAY WORKSHOPS CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of The Incentive Scheme presently in vogue HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE in the Railway Workshops is based on the be pleased to state : system of payment by result. The Incentive (a) wbether Government have received Scheme covers not only the direct Production any report regardina the spread of leprosy staff but also the staff of service shops such among tbe tri bals of Kerala ; as Millwright shop, Tool Room etc. The staff of Production Control organiaation is (b) if so, wbat steps are being taken to paid 15% special pay in lieu of incentive rebabilitate tbose wbo have affected by the bonus. disease ; (2) The amount of incentive bonus (c) whether Government have received earned is calculated witb reference to tbe any comprehensive report from the Harijans standard hourly rate. Welfare Department of Kerala in tbis regard; and (3) The ceiling limit on profit earned is fixed at 50% of time taken in respect of (d) if 10, the details thereof? eacb job/operation. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (4) The basic wages of all workers are DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE paraoteed irrespective of their result of (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): No, incentive bonus, but losses during any Sir. particular month arc adjustable against tbe profits of the same month. (b) Based on the assessment made by Pilot Survey Unit, tbe Government of Ketala (5) Results of incentive working are have established LeprolY Control Uoit and determined on tbe bali. of total quantity S.E. T. Centres covering the major tribal puaed on the job carda by the IlUpector population exclusively. conceroed. (c) No, Sir. (6) Incentive performance for each job performed by workers i. calculated on the (d) Question does Dot arise. basis 01 the time saved (allowed time minus time taken) multiplied by standard hourly AdcUdoaal Jl'uHI for Educlltloa rate. The allowed timiogs are fixed based on 7089. SHRI NARAYAN CHAUBEY: a propel' study by rate ben for each opera- Will tbe Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE tiaafjob. DEVELOPMENT be p1cucd to stato : (7) ADo_alICe is made for idle time whether it ia fact that 30 perceDt of wIIicb may be boobcl due to varioUi' rca- tbe badpt 01 Human Reaourco DovoloPIDCDt CflArtRA 2'7, 1908 (SAKA) Ministry is being surrendered while more AUocatioa of Diesel Eoginea frOID Ratlam funds are beiDllought for education; and SectiOD to Rajkot aDd Bllamagar Diyilloa (b) if so, the details and the reasons therefor? 7G91. SHR)MATI PATEL RAMABEN RAMJIBHAI MAVANI : Will tile Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to .tate : THE MrNISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (a) whether it is a fact that some diesel CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- engines wiU be spread on Ratlam Section TAGI : (a) and (b). About 11.81 % of the on Western Railway after tbe completion of total budget provision of the Department of electrification on the Railway route; Education for 1985-86 has been surrendered. This was primarily on account of obser- (b) if so, bow many diesel enainca are vance of economic instructions issued by the likely to be 10 spared ; Government of Ind ;a, restrictions on crea- tion of new posts and on filling up of vacant (c) whether some of tbe above diesel posts, besides the time being taken In getting engines will be provided to Saurashtra the new plan ~cbemes scrutinised and ap· Region in Rajkot and Bbavnagar Division proved by tbe competent authorities. of Western Railway for long distance trains as welt as for Hapa-Rajkot-Abmcdabad inter city trains etc; Plan to Develop Spor ts Education in the Country (d) if so, what are the plans and outlay of the same ; and 7090. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (e) if not, the reasons thereof? DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (a) whether Government propose to (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. initiate any steps to develop !lpots education (b) In the initial stages fifteen. in the country ; and (c) to (e). Diesel locomotives are pooled (b) ir so, measures to be taken in on all India basis. They arc deployed in Orissa. various areas depending upon requirements and priorilies - freight traffic enjoying THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE priority over passenger traffic. DEPARTMENTS OF YOU fH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN·S WEL- Recommeadatioos of Stmposiam on FARE (SHRlM~TI MARGARET ALVA. : Pharmaceuticals. Quality aad (a) With a view to promoting sports educa- Safety tion in the country Government have already introduced a scheme of ll'avel grant 7092. SHRIMATI O.K. BHANDARI: to sports scho!ars/ccsearcb woiters fOr under- Will the Minister of HEALTH AND taking specialised trainingJ research in mat- FAl\1JLY WELFARE be pleased to state: ters relating to sports. Netaji Subhas National Institute of Sports already runs (a) whether a number of recommenda- diploma and certificate courses in different tions were made at a Symposium on .ports disciplines and also a masters diploma Pbarmaceuticals, Quality and Safety jointly counc. organised by Indian Pharmaceuticals Ass0- ciation and organisation of Pharmaceuticals Producers of India in Calcutta on 4 October, (b) While it is nOI fcasible for the 1985 ; Central Government 10 create special raci- lities in eacb state. sports-persons from all (b) if so, the highlights thereof aad over tbo country, ioclu ding Orissa, can take action taken tbcteon; advaDtqe of the above mentioncd schemes aDd propaamlDOl. (c) whether tho failure ratc of drup ad APIUL 17, 1986 pharmaceuticals bad decreased since the harmful effects after consumption by human above symposium was held; and beings? (d) if so, the details tbereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTBR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARB TJ.lE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (b). The information is being collected from (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) This the State Drug Control Authorities and will Minisuy has not received any recommenda- be laid on the Table of the Sabha. tion made at tbe S)mposium on Pharmaceu- ticals, Quality and Safety held at Calcutta on 4th October, 1985. Comparative Study of Passes aad PTO Admissible to Railway Emplo)eeI (b) to (d). Do not arise. 7094. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Harmful Effects of Combination of Drugs Will the Mimster of TRANSPORT be pleased to ref~r to the Te ply given to Un- 7093. SHRI HARI KRISHAN starred Question No. 7978 on 15 April, 1982 SHASTRI: Will the Minister of HEALTH regarding Tbil d Pay Conlm Ission recom- AND FA~nLY WELFARE be pleased to mendations for passes and P. T . Os. and state state : how does the facility of P.T.Os. and passes the names of the combination of available to emplo},ees of lndian Railways drugs which have been introduced in the compare with such facUity availa.b\e in country during last 3 )'ears alongwith com- foreign countries? position of each ; and THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (b) the names of such preparations (SHRI BANS! LAL): A st~tement is given about which Government received reports of below: STATEMENT Specific information in tbe cases of the following foreign countries which are obtained sometimes in the past is given below :- U,K. Pass/No. PTO/No. 1 2 3 OfIicen and Management Staff (j) 10 years service or more 9 sets in 1st Class Unlimited No. of PTOs at 1/4th rate eii) Less that 10 years service 6 sets in 1st Class -do- Staft' (i) 10 years service or more 7 sets in II Cla;s -do- (ii) Less than 10 year s service 4 sets in II Class -do- (Note : This includes children and wife) France All Railway Employees Unlimited for Self Unlimited No. at 10% Families of Employee~ 8 sets Unhmited No. at half ratc Federal Republic of GeI'lDany ()fIicers and Staff at all level. I sets for self aDd 4 seta of Family CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) 1 2 3 Paid. tan Oass I Ofricers- Direct Recruit and 6 sets in A .. C.C. 6 setl in A.C.C. Officers promoted from ranks with Pay over Rs. 926. Officers promoted from ranks with pay 6 sets in 1st Class 6 sets in 1st Class less than Rs. 926. Staff Upto One ye.lf With 1 to 10 years service 1 set 2 sets With 10 to 25 years service 2 sets 4 sets With above 25 year.;, 5~rvice 3 sets 6 sets (Note: On Pakistan Railways, non-gazetted staff with pay above Rs. 480/- are entitled to 1st Class Passes and rest in II Class) Indian Railways Group 'A' and 'B' Officers 6 sets in 15t Class 6 sets in 1st Class Group 'C' and 'D~ Staff (i) U('to 5th year 6 sets in appropriate of service-I· set Class in appropriate Class (il) 6th year of s!rvice 6 sets in appropriate and over- 3 sets Class in appropriate Class Uniform Wage Structure for Doctors Death of a Patient in L.N,J.P. Hospital Delbi "'109'. DR. V. VENKATESR: Win 7096. PROF. R.4.\tKRISHNA MORE: the Minister of HEALTH ANI) FAMILY Will the ~fjnister of HBALTR AND WELF ARE be pJeased to state : F-\~t1LY 'VELFARE be pleased to state~: (8) whetber it is a (det tb.jt Government (a) "bet her Government are aware of a have a proposal to introduce uniform wage number of Instances of patien ts having died structure for all doctors and iotegrated due to negligence in major hospitals of medical services ; an d Delhi aod if so, the particulars of such cases occuted during the last six months; (b) if so, wbon these proposals are likely to be implemented 1 (b) whether any enquirY was held in those cases by Union Ministry of Health THE DBPUTY MINISTER IN and Family Welfare and if so. the results THB DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY thereof with follow up action taken; WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) No, Sir. (c) whether it is a fact that one of ~llch patient died at the Lok Nayak Jai PIakash (b) Doea Dot arilt. Narain Hospital, Delhl sometimes in 207 Wrltt~" AIUWr"6 APRIL 17, 1986 Writte" Answr, 208 December. 1985 due to the alleged neglig.nce No. of containers bandIed in and indifferent behaviour of a doctor; and terms of TEU. <20 feet Year equivalent units) (d) if S09 what are the details thereof ------stating the result of the inquiry, if any Exports Imports made, by Government in the matter. the 1984.. 85 1238 1054 level a t which the i nqu iry was conducted 1985-86 2853 t and the action taken in the regard? 4961 (c) hol..tted cases of export containers THE DEPUTy MINISTER IN THE missing ships have come to notice. Joint DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE meetings between Port authoritif"s, Shipping (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Govern- Corporation (,f Indi~, Customs and Railways ment are not aware of any estabHshed case have heen held to ... trcamline the procedure of death of patients due to negligence in and cut out delays No complaint has been major hospitals of Delhi. rcceivt'd regard'ng cancellation of export orders on account of delays to I.S. O. con.. (b) Does not arise. tainers between Delhi Inland Conta mer Depot Port. (c) and (d). The complaint of alleged and Bombay neglinence was investigated by the Hospital Authorities. Negligence was aot established. 12.00 brs. However, since the MedIcal Superintendent [English] of Lok Nayak Jai Prakash Narain Hospital was not satisfied with the enquiry report. a PROF MADHU DANDAVATE (Rnja- senior officer of the Delhi Administration pur): Sir, I am on a point of order. has been entrusted to hold a fresh enquiry by Delhi Administration. (/nten uptions) MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of order, SIr? MIsmanagement in Delhi aDd Bombay Inland Container Depot PROF. rvrADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, Rule 376 says that a point of order shall 7097. SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM: relate to the interpretation or enforcement Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea .. of the rules or the Constitution and a11 sed to state : that. I am rising on a point of order regard· ing wrong interpretation and implementation whether there IS large scale mis- of Rule 380 regarding the expunction of management in Delhi's Inland Container remarks of the hon. Members in tbe course Depot, an extension of Bombay Port, started of discussion. two years back ; Sir, when you were not here yesterday, (b) the number of exPOrt and import when one by one Members were asked to containers of Delhi handled by Bombay make their submissions, we made certain Port annually for the last two years; submissions about certain references made aDd by the Prime Minister in BaoaaJore. In tbat case, a number of thin,s were on (c) whether there is lot of delay in record. Today we find that there is a handling tbe containers both at Delhi and summary of gUIllotining of aU tbe remarks. Bombay resulting in missing of ships aDd MR. SPEAKER: Professor Sahib. tbe cancellation of expon orders etc. ? qucs.ioD is, the point of order relates to a matter which is in hand and tbi. is DO matter THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT wb 'ch is at hand at tbe preseat time. (SHRI BANSl LAL): (a) No, Sir. (Interruptions) (b) The number of export and import containers of Delbi Inland Container Depot PROP. MADHU DANDAVATB: Let handled by Bomba, Port durio. tho last me interpret. I will accept your RuliDi Sir. two ,... hu 10M up a, UDder : You have a riab!. even in the iDtorrepum 209 JVrltt~n .AnlW~r8 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) between any two items, you have the right MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Mohanty, on 8 to anow us and thereforo, I 10Ught your matter of privilege. permission. Sir, just DOW the records of yesterday's proceedings are before the (Interruptions) Houle. MR. SPEAKER: You should have raised it yesterday, Dot today. MR. SPEAKER: Look here, under Rule 376 a point of order shall be in relation PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: At to the business before the House. least can I see you in your Chamber ? PROF. MADHU DANDA'lATE: It is (Interruptions). In your Chamber we can decide. re]ated to the business. MR. SPEAKER: ...at the moment. MR. SPEAKER: We can decide, you are always welcome, Sir. If I am convinced PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Listen or anything, that I don't say 'No' to you. to me. Sir. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I will meet you in the Chamber. MR. SPEAKER: It should have been raised yesterday. MR. SPEAKER: Any time. When have I said 'No'? But not :-egarding this. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It is You can guide me. regarding the business just now because you are likelY to use expunction powers. You PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Tbj, are putting the Member in difficulty, you are will create a bad precedent for all times to putting the press in difficulty. In spite of come. your instructions, you will find tbat the (Interruptions) entire press has carried that because you gave instructions which can never be MR. SPEAKER: Look here. I have implemented. always said on the floor ef the House that I am bound by the rules, and I am to be MR. SPEAKER: No, no. guided by my hone Members who are even PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You much more experienced than myself. I have say, walk-out is allowed, but why walk-out to learn. a man also has to Jearn aud the bas taken place cannot be mentioned. more you learn, the more you realise how less you know. That I accept, I know that. (Int~rruptions) So I am always aeceptable, my mind is MR. SPEAKER: This is a very clear always open and I will accept any good tbing. Every time. every hon. Member of advice which is given to me, or if there are this House has 10 seek the permission of any rules which can be interpreted in a the Chair as per the rules. And whenever different manner, there is no problem. But I aHow a person, it is done; wben I say I have to go according to what the rules "Not al1owed', it is not allowed, when I say. don't allow permission, Sir, il is not allowed. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Sir, So simple it is. we have given an adjournment motion. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We (Interruptions) were allowed. MR. SPEAKER: Look here, certain ( Interruptions) times you give me adjownment motions which are without any foundation SHitI BASUDEB ACH ~RIA: We were allowed to make submissioDS. SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA: Why is it irrelevant ? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE' The (Interruptions) Parliamentary Affairs Minister was aliowe MR. SPEAKER: Why not? Who bars U.05 bn. you? It is your right. I never bar you, RE QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE AGAINST (Interruptions) SYBD SHAHABUDDIN, M.P.. FOR H)S DEROGATORY REMARKS AGAINST MR. SPEAKER: No. DO. It is not a SHRI ARIF MOHD. KHAN, M.P. AS RE- question for adjournment at all. PORTED IN "THE HINDUSTAN TIMES" OF 4.3.1986 (Interruptions) (Ettg/UIt] MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rao, just under- Mit. SPEAKER: Now, I have caUed stand one thing. You can discuss it under Mr. Brajamohan Mohanty who is on a drought; you can discuss it under agricul- privi1eac motion. ture. but not like this. There is no question of adjournment. ( [IIre"Uplions) ( Int~rruptID1tS) Mil. SPEAK.ER : Sit down. Over.ruled. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Sir. I MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed , abao· want to make a submissioD. Jutely. MR. SPEAKER: No question of sub- Yes, Mr. Mohanty ... missioD. No, Sir. The rules do not permit it. The rules do not permit it and I would I bave got the rfgbt and I cay what I not allow it. think is right. SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA: Why ., SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : I Mil. SPEAKER: There is no question have liven a notice 01 priviJese and con- qf "Wb1H, because I say it. tempt of the House. 213 Re. QlIes/ion 0/ Privilege CHAITRA 17, 1$08 (SAKA) against Syed 214 Shahabuddin M.P. (In! erruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: My constituency also So. my submission would be it is an suffers from the same thing But J cannot Intimidation and this constitutes a breach of do it. privilege and contempt of the House. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We do not agree with the remark. It is not a MR. SPEAKER: No. No questiOD. breach of privilege, Sir 4 I do not agree Not aUowed. Absolutely irrelevant. Please with his remarks about the hOD. Member. sit dowD. Please sit down. Not allowed. But where is the breach of privilege. Against us, everything bas been said outside. (Interruptions)* * It is said, we are anti-nationals. Even then, it does not become a breach of privilege. MR. SPEAKER: Not a single word No less a person than the Prime Minister will form part of the record. Yes, Mr. says that ~e are anti-nationals. But we have Mohanty. not considered it as a breach of privilege. I may not agree with the opinion about the SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : I ex· Minister. But where is the breach of have given a notice for breach of privilege privilege, where is the contempt of the and contempt of the House against the hone House? Member, Shri Syed Shahabuddin for his statement in the Hindustan Times dated 4th (Interruptioll$) March, 1986 alloging serious imputation THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE and intimidating the former Minister. (S. BUTA SINGH): Mr. Speaker, Sir. I Mr. Arif Mohammad Khan. Sir. I may be rake strong objection to Dandavateji's a))owed to place my allegations. \Vhat bas remarks that that the Prime Minister has happened is, in the press ... said that they are anti-nationals. He has never said it and it should not be MR. SPEAKER: I told you, it is a allowed to remain on record. question of privilege. He has given a pri- vilege motion against Mr. Shahbuddin for PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He saying certain thIngs against :he hon. said it the other day. Not about all, but he Member. said so about certain sections. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Have SHRI BASUDEB ACHARlA: He said you examined whether there is p,ima facie it in this very House. You were not present. case of privilege and then allowed ? ( Inte"uptions) l\.1R. SPEAKER: Yes, I have examined. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Speaker, SIr, on the eve of the last Lot Order. order. I want order in the House. Sabha elections9 in a public meeting at Ramagiri. he said that certain sections are SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: playing in the h~nds of forcian countries. Meanwhile tbe statement issued by Mr. But we did Dot raiee it as a privilege Shahbuddin against the former Minister, issue. Mr. Arif Mohammad Khan describing him as an OpportUD iltie bas shocked many MR. SPEAKER: Some pwplc arc Janata MLAs. And then. in the next para- doing it even now. arapb, he says, Mr. Khan has been totally rejected and disowned by tbe Muslim com- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 1 do munity aad that for his political survival, not agree with this remark about the ex- he must court the Hindu chauvinist lobby. Minister. There is DO question of privileel. ·*Not recorded. 21S k.e. Question of Privilege against At RIL 1', 1986 Syed Shaliabuddin M.p. 216 MR. SPEAKER : Professor Saheb, even somebody against somebody who may now some people are indulging in thaI. beloDg to the House, outside the House ..• There are some people. MR. SPEAKER: This is something PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That regarding the procedure of the House. is all riaht. But where is the privilege ? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Do MR. SPEAKER: The privileae is you remember what the Prime Minister against a Member for saying something said about us in connection with the Anand- against another Member, pur Saheb Resolution? Do YOU remember that? Shall I give you the newspaper PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I clippings? would like to warn you everything that is said about us outside the House. wiU you MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister accept that as a prima facie case for privi- did not say anything about you. (Inter- lege? ruptions). MR. SPEAKER: I will have to see. If you impair the working of .an hone Member of the House by intimidatioD. what PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What am I to do ? is the prima facie case of privilege? There is no privilege. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There ( Int erruptions) is no impairing of the working of any hone Member. MR. SPEAKER: Let us see if the MR. SPEAKER: It is for the House House decides. to decide. I will put it to the House.. SHRJ S. JAIPAL REDDY: Tell us. (Inturuptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We MR. SPEAKER: I shall put it to the are entitled to know from you what is the House. basis of prima facie case of privilege. On flimsy grounds we have been told that there PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: By is DO privilege. But here for some naming personalities, it has been said that comment outside, you have said it is a we ace opportunistic. Sometimes it is said breach of privilege. I do not agree with his that we are communa1. All sorts of things remark. There is no breach of privilege. have been said. But we never came to the House. MR. SPEAKER: It is not for me. I will not decide it. I leave it to the House. MR. SPEAKER: I will have to see if I Dever decide it. there are enough number of Members of the House who would support this. PROF. MADHU DANOA V ATE: But, there must be a prima facie case. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: One can disagree. . MR. SPEAKER: I never do it on my own. I am not the sole authority. It is the (Interrllptions) House or the PrivHegcs Committee which decidea it. So simple it is. MR. SPEAKER: I am putting it to the House. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Please hear me. Any number of privilege motions SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA (Ponnaru): tabled by us. were dismissed out of band DOD't set up wrong precedents. from your Chamber. We were not even aOawed to make statements. Now the question THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE ariIeI as to whether you found a prima facie OSPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- case in this priviJeae motion. The queation POR.T (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): It is Dot also arises as to whether a remark made by a remark. It is a speacb by the hOD. 217 Re. Qwstion 0/ Privlkge CHAtTtlA 27, 1908 (SAKA) against Syed 21S Sllllhabuddin M.P. Member. CertainlY I want to know whether (Interruptions) the hone Member is approving that or is against it. That is the basic question. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You are not allowing a discussion. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Jaipal Reddy, MR. SPEAKER: Those hOD. Members why do you let angry ? who are in favour of leave being granted may rise in their places. (Interruptio.s) (InterruptiolU) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Before you put it to the vote of the House, SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: No, Sir. please allow us to mak.e our submissions. No, Sir. (Interruptions) SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: You must listen to us, listen to our submissioD. Allow MR. SPEAKER: I find that more than us to make our submission to the House. 25 member are in favour. Leave is granted. But I can reserve it for the time being. ( Interruptions) (lnt.ruptiom) MR. SPEAKER : What can I do ? MR. SPEAKER: You move your (Inte"uptions) Motion, Mr. Mohanty. MR, SPEAKER: I have to do some- SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : I thing. am quoting Mr. Brown's case in the House PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: of Commons ..• Unless there is a prima jack case, you can- not do it. Have you applied your mind '! SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: On a point of order. MR. SPEAKER: Yes; I have applied my mind. I am satisfied. MR. SPEAKER: There is no question of point of order at this time. (Interruptions) (InternqJtioru) SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: You must listen to our submissions. [TrQlUlation] (Interruptitlns ) MR. SPEAKER: Please allow the hOD. Member to speak. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Banatwalla. go back and stand in your place. Why are you [&wIUh) standing here? Stand in your place. You are an hon. Member of this House. You SHRI BRAJMOHAN MOHANTY: I am klow where to stand and when to talk. Go quoting Mr. Brown's case. The Committee to your place and stand there. Tomorrow of Privileges of the House of Commons if you are going to be gagged. what can I (U.K.) stated in the Brown's case : do for you? I am going to do the same flIt is a breach of privilege to take or thing for you as for anybody else. I do Dot threaten action which is not merely cal- discriminate. culated to affect the Member"s course of ( IlttBrllptiOlU) action in Parliament. but is of a kind against which it is absolutely necessary SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You have that Members should be protected if Dot done it in the past and you are not they are to discharge thcit duties as such loinl to do in the future. independently and witbGut fear of puaisbmeDt or hope of reward." MR. SPEAKER: The futUR ... to be looked after by this HOUIO. (1Bt.,.".1Iou) .219 Re. Qllestion 0/ Privilege agllinst APIUL 17. 1986 S~d Sllahabuddin, M.P. 220 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : How can the House express itself on the Allow us to express our views before you motion without applyin. its mind ? take the decision to refer it to the Privileges Committee. MR. SPEAKER: He has sought the permission of the House. If it is passed, (Interruptions ) then we shall have a discussion. So simple it is. MR. SPEAKER: I will give you a chance later. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: It is amazing. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: Mr. Arif Mohammad Khan is being threa- MR. SPEAKER: It is the House which tened that for his political survival he must decides. I do not do anything. ~ court the Hindu chauvinist ]obby. ( InterruptiolLf) Another thing is this. am grateful to I PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE In Mr. Syed Shahabuddin. In his reply he has t advance I am giving you a privilege notice. accepted the statement which has been pub- Tomorrow I will produce the speeches of the lished in tbe press and he has accepted that Prime Minister by naming the members of so far as 'opportunistic' is concerned, this the opposition. is a very serious reflection OD the political . conduct of Mr. Arif Mohammad Khan. I MR. SPEAKER: I will see. (lnl.rruptions) am placing his reply before you ...... ( l"tMruptiom) MR. SPEAKAR: Jaipalji don't break this. Your hands will be broken. I am I am now quoting May's Parliamentary worried about that. Practice, pale 1'9 : SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: When the "Written imputations, as affecting a conventions of the House are being broken, I Member of Parliament ... " don't care for my hands. ( lnte"uptions) MR. SPEAKAR: Why are you lOSing your temper unnecessarily ? PROF. MAHU DANDAVATE: Every SHRI S. JAIPAL RED!)Y: Why not day I will produce the speecbes made by the Sir" when the whole House is 10SlDg its Congress leaders against us. I do not agree balance? (/1Iterruptions) , with Mr. Syed Shahabuddin's assessment of the ex-Minister. But I do not feel that it is MR. SPEAKER: Do not give it. a privileae. The Prime Minister has been publicly condemning us by name. Our SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: Chairman, Sbri Cbandrashekhar, has been The May'. Parliamentary Practice pagc-159, condemned. We have been condemned. But says: we have never raised any privilege issue "Written imputations as affecting a Member of Parliament may amount to • breach of privilege without, perhaps beiDa MR SPEAKER: I will gjve you also libel at common law, but to constitute a an opportunity. breach of privilege libel upon a member must concern the character or conduct SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Kindly hear of the member in that capacity". us. My submission is that be has admitted MR. SPEAKER: I am not loing to that it is a serious reflection aud it is a bar any sentleman. serious imputation. That part be bas ad- mittted. Now the question ii, when be SHRI S. lAlPAL &SDDY: You are takes tho plea of lair COllUDeDt, the plea puttiq the motion to the vote of the House. of fair comment may be available in a court CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) against Sy~d 222 Shohabuddtn M.P. of law; whether he has exceeded the limits of [Trmrs]ation] fair comment or not that may be checked up by a court of Jaw. But so far as this y ou ~hould not lose your nerve. House i~ concerned, it is a serious imputa- tion, and it is a serious intimidation, so that [English] it is a fit case of breach of privilege and The on1y thing is I go by the consensu! contempt of the House. of this House. (Interruptions) SHRI S. JI\IPAL REDDY: You must also go by the rules of this House. MR. SPEAKER: Sbri Shababuddio. MR. SPEAKER: That is what I do. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Before cannot allow the consensus to be built up on the Motion is put to vote, we shall have to a wrong procedure. Tomorrow you can say be heard. It is our fundamental right to be that Madhu Dandavate should be hanged , heard. Nobody on the earth can deny our Jet us take the vote. Can you do it ? fundamental rights. MR. SPEAKER: No, no, I would not do it. Professor, don't take th ings too far. {Translation] I know what I am doing. pJease listen. The only tbing is that when we become im- MR. SPEAKER: You read the patient and passion takes the place of reason, Motion. then it 9#ill be a problem. I am open to reason and I am always open to reason. I [English] can discuss, I can listen to arguments even in my chamber jf you like from both the SHRf BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: ~jdes. 1 have got no problem against that. I beg to move : I can defer ... "That the matter be referred to the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You allow Committee of Privileges for examination it inside the House? and report". MR. SPEAKER: Where do I take it ? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: By Will I take it to IIU' house? It bas to be calling Sbahabuddinji to speak here you are done on the floor of the House. taking it for granted that the privilege notice is already admitted and you are asking bim SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You Dever to clarify the position. Afterwards if it is allowed it in the House earlier. In one last decided to aUow the matter to go before the one year no pri vilege motion was ever Committee. in that case Shri Shahabuddin sought to be discussed in the Hoose before may be asked to appear before the Com- it was admitted. mittee. There is no need of asking him to speak now. MR. SPEAKER: It was not brought. What could I do? If there was no problem (Intt!,rupliollS ) what could I do 7 PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE: Very THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- humbly I would like to bring to your notice. MENTARY AFFAIRS AND TOURISM (SHRI H. K. L. BHAOAT): I would sub- (11ttl'rruptioltS ) mit that tbis matter, this question may be taken up sometime later and not today. MR. SPEAKER: What are you doing? Unnecessarily you are gettiag agitated and MR. SPEAKAR: Look here, what I getting heart attack. What will I do for can do is...••• .•• (lnterrllptlons) ••••.• you? 223 Re. Qwstion of Privilege against APRIL 17., 1989 ~ Shahabuddln, M.P. 224 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY : I may point out to you that even in those take a very serious view of that. cases my privilege notices where you ulti- (Interrupt iolU) mately gave a ruling in IllY favour, even in those cases you did not allow submissioDS in MR. SPEAKER: Please sit doWD. Why the House the before you studied the Primtl don't you listen now? Please sit down. facie case. Don't record anything. (Interruptions) (Inte"llptions) ** MR. SPEAKER: I did it very care- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kurup I have fully. not allowed you. Please sit doWD. I am not allowing. Please take your seat. I have PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Let Dot allowed you. Mr. K urup I am not me make it very clear that I completely allowina you also. Mr. Kurup please sit down. agree with him as far as the views about the What I want to say ... Please sit down. Again ex-Minister are concerned. That is different. Jaipaljl will say that you are shouting. But as far as the privdege is concerned, the I want to say a simple thing that 1 can take questioD is different. advice. We can defer this matter if you are (Interrupt ions) so much agitated about this. I am not bound by any hard and fast. There is MR. SPEAKER: J~ ipalji you always nothing about this. It is a simple question get so much agitated that you also make me pertaining to the Member and this august agitated. I try to be fair. I want to listen. House and if we can take it and Don't lose your temper. talk it over we can talk i t. There is no problem in that also. We can SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I do not do it. My simple formula is to put the want to be shoutee at, I am an hOD. Mem· thing before the House and go according to ber and as honourable al any other MelLber. what the House says. If you want it this side also wants and that side also wants. MR. SPEA.KER: That is what I am You can come to me and we ran talk it over saying. Do not make me agitated. When as you like. you do it I also get agitated. That is what I am appealing to you. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; I want to point out that you have to be the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I may in- greatest non... aligned force in this House. form you thaI I suffer from a malady. I am MR. SPEAKER : That is what I am. very allergic to shouting. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: You MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. I are a non-aligned person here. Therefore, only want to say do not get agitated. That try to Jisten to both sides and try to find the is what I am saying. Why do you make me way. Once you allow individual comments agitated? PJease sit down. then it will land us into all sorts of compli- cations. SHRI SRIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY (Katwa); Sir, the point in this is about MR. SPEAKER : I will call all or you intimidation of Shri Arif Mohammad Khan and listen to you. and I believe this privilege should be direc- ted against the Prime Minister because be PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That prevented his going there. (Inte"UPtions) is all right I accept your suggestion. (Inter. rlllJtiolU ) MR. SPBAKER ; Please sit down. Why MR. SPEAK.BR : Sir, I do not wish to are you trying to involve everything? Please anooy Pror. Dandavate. He is a very sea- .it doWD. soood and senior Member of tbe HoUle but ·*Not recorded. 225 Re. Question of Privilege against CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Pa~rs Laid 226 S,ed Shahabuddin, M.P. the difficulty is that all Members are equal. He 12.30 brl. does not have an unlimited power of speak. iog. I bave suggested that the matter need [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chair] not be taken up today. ( Interruptiot7,J) [English] MR. SPEAKER: That is what it is. PAPERS LAID O~ THE TABLE Now you also want and they a Iso want I have got nothing to do on my OWD. Y(\u Detailed demands for grants of Ministry of can conle and talk to me-both sides-and Agriculture for 1986 87. then we will see No problem. That is what I always say. Do not get agitated. If you :rHE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE- are very calm I am always calm. I will (S. BUTA SINGH) : I beg to lay on the listen to you, talk to )' ou a nd then form Table a copy of the Detailed Demands for my opinion. TheJe is nothing hard and Grants (Hindi and English versions) of the fast. Ministry of AgrIculture for 1986-87. [Placed in library. See No. LT-2S03/86] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, to get a sober note from tbe Minister we Notification under Prel'ention of Food AduJ- have to lo<;e our temper. That is all teration Act, ADoual Report etc. of and Review on Post graduate Institute of Medical Education MR. SPEAKER: You could have done and Researcb, Chandigarb 1984-85. otherwise also. This was unnecessary. THE ~1INISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, MOHSINA KIDWAI) : 1 beg to lay on the I am on a separate matter. Table- MR. SPEAKER: What is that? (1) A copy of the prevention of Food Adulteration (Fifth Amendment) SHRI SOMNATH CHATfERJEE: I Rules, 1985 (Hindi and English have given a notice of breach of pri\ ilege versions) published in Notification against the Prime Minister and Mr. Ajlt No. G. S. R. 550 (E) in Gazette Panja, Minister of State for Planning. of India dated tte 4th July, 1985 under sub-section (2) of section 23 MR. SPEAKER: I will see to it. of the Prevention of Food Adul- teration Act, 1954. [Placed in SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: I library See No. LT-2504f86] have given all the documents. I have given the notice. (2) (i) A COPY' of the Annual Report (HIndi and English versions) of the MR. SPEAKER: I will have to look Postgraduate Institute of Medical into it. Education and Research, Chandi- garh, for the year 1984-85 under SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: On section 19 of the Postgraduate 11th April I had given it. Institute of Medical Education and Research, Chandigarh, Act, 1966. MR. SPEAKER: Does not matter. (ii) A copy of the Annual Accounts SHRI SOMNATH CH A. TTERJEE: Is it (Hindi and English versions) of under your consideration? (Interruptions) I the Postgraduate Institute of Medi- have given all the facts. cal Education and Research .. Chandigarh, for the year 19~4-8S MR. SPEAKER: You have done but together with Audit Report there- I have to find the ra~ts. pn, under su","section (4) of Section APRIL 17. 1986 Papers Laid 228 18 or the Postgraduate Institute of sub-section (4) of section 15 of the Medical Education' and Research, Air Corporations Act, 1953. Chandigarh, Act, 1966. (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English versions) by the Govern- English versions) by the Govern- ment on the work ing of the Indian ment on the working of the Post- Airlines for the year 1984.85. graduate Institute of Medical Ejucation and Research, Chandi- (3) A statement (Hindi and English garh, for the year 1984-8~. [Placed versions) showing reasons for delay in library. See No. L T -~505/86] in laying the papers mentioned at (2) above. [Placed in library. See Detailed Demands for Grants of Ministry of No. LT-2508/86] Law and Justice for 1986-87 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Detailed Demands for Grant. of Department MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE of Youth Affairs aod Sports for 1986-&7 (SHRl H. R. BHARDWAJ): I beg to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lay on the Table a copy of the Detailed DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS Demands for Grants (Hindi and English AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFARE versions) of the Ministry of law and Justice (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): I beg for 1986-87. to Jay on the Table a copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi and English [Placed in library. See No. L T -2506 /86] versions) of the Department of Youth and 1986~87. Notification under Aircraft Act, Annual IAffairs Sports for [Placed in ibrary. See No. LT 2509/861 Report etc. of aDd Review on IndiaD Air- lilies for 1914-85 and a sta tement re Notifications under Mayor Port Trusts Act delay in laying Papen re Indian Air- and National Highways Act lines THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF SURFACE TRANS- DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION PORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : I beg to (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): I beg to lay Jay on the T abJe. on the Table : (I) A copy of Notific~tion No. G. S. R. 497 (I) A copy of tbe Aircraft (First (E) (Hindi and English versions) Amendment) Rules, 1986 (Hindi published in Gazette of India dated and English versions) published in the 14th March. 1~86 approving the Notification No. G. S. R. 551 (E) Visakbapatnam Port Employees (Welfare in Gazette of India dated the 31 st Fund) Amendment Regulation, 1985 March, 1986 together with an under sub-section (4) of section 124 of explanatory note, under section 14A the \iajor Port Trusts Act, 1963. of tho Aircraft Act, 1934. [Place in [Placed in Library. See No. LT-~Sto/861 library See No. LT-2s07/86]. (2) A copy of Notification No. S. O. 92 (2) (i) A COpy of the Annual Report (E) (Hindi and English versions) (Hindi and English versions) of the published in Gazette of India dated tbe Indian Airlines for the year 1984.85 13th March, 1986 declaring the under sub-section (2) of section 37 Highway starting from Ahmeda 8.8 of the Air Corporations Act, 1953. passing close to the towns of Nadiad, Anand and terminatilll as Vododara as (ii) A ~opy of the Annual ACCOUDts a National Highway UDder section 10 (Hindi and Eo,li.b Versions) of the of tbe National Highways Act, 1956. Indian Airlines for the year 1984-85 [Placed in Library. Se. No. LT. and the Audit R~ thereon. under 2511/86J 229 E.C. CliAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Comma on Welfare SC and ST 230 Election to Committee AnDual Accounts of and Audjt Report 00 Visva of cas~ in Supreme Court and High Courts Bharati Santfolktan for 1984-85 and Detailed and Minutes of the Sittings of the Committee Demands for Grants of tbe Ministry of Human relating thereon. Resource Development, Department of Educa- tion aDd Departments of Arts and Culture for 1986-87. 12.321 hrs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE COMMITTEE ON THE WELFARE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA SCHEDULED TRIBES ROHTAGI) : I beg to lay on the Table- [English] (1) A copy of the Annual Accounts Ninth Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Visva-Bbarati, Santiniketan, for the SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI (Simla): year J984-85 together with Audit I beg to present the Ninth Report (Hindi Report thereon. . and English versions) of the Committee OD the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and (2) A statement (Hindi and English Schedu1ed Tribes on the MinistrY' of Agri- versions) showing reasons for delay culture (Department of Rural Development) in laying the papers ment loned at Problem of drinking. water supply for (1) above. [Placed in Library. See Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in No. LT 2511 /86. States and Union Territories. (3) A copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants (Hind i and English 12.33 brs. versions) of the Ministry of Human Resource Development for 1986-87. ELECTION TO COMMfITEB [Placed in Library. See No. L T- [English] 2513/86]. Centra) Advisory Board of Education (4) A copy of the Detailed Demands for Grants Hindi and English versions) THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB of the Department of Education for DEP-\RTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 1986-87. (Placed in Library, Set No. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHlLA LT -2514/86]. ROHTAGI) : I beg to move: (5) A copy of the Detailed Demands for "That in pursuance of paragraph 5 of Grants (Hindi and English versions) the Ministry of Human Resource of the Departments of Arts and Development (Department of Education) Culture for '986-87. [Placed in Resolution No. F. 1-/2 8S .. PN. 2, dated Library. See LT-2515/86). the 10th April, 1986 read ~ith Item No.5 (i) of the Annexure thereto, tll. members of this House do proceed te elect, in such manner as the Speaker 12.31 hrs. may direct .. four members from amoogst themselves to serve as memben the ESTIMATES COMMnTEE or Central Advisory Board of Education. [Engiisla] subject to other pronsions of the said Re.~o)utioD'" . ThIrty-First Report and MiDutea MR. DEPUTY.SPE~R n. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI quest ion is : (Bhubneswar) : I beg to present the Thirty-Pirst Report (Hindi and Bnglish "That in pursuance of pataSfapb S oftbe versions) of the Estimates Committee on Ministry of Human Resource Development he Ministry of Law and Justicc-Pendency (Department of Education) RCIOlutio. 231 Matters Under Rule 377 APRIL t7, 1986 Malters Under Rule 371 232 [Mr. Deputy Speaker] (in Demand for upgrading Junior Navyug No. F. t-2/85-PN. 2, dated the 10th Schools to Senior Navyug Schools to ensure April 1986 read with Item No.5 (i) of automatic admission of Students of the the Annexure thereto, the members of Juuior Wing to the Senior Wing. this House do proceed to e1c:ct, in such SHRI JRGANNATH PRASAD manner as the Speaker nlay direct, four (Mohanlalganj): The Government had members from amongst themselves to opened Navyug Schools in Delhi to provide serve as members of the Central better quality education to the children of Advisory Board of Education, subject to economicaJly weaker section of the society. other provisions of the said Resolu- At present there are four junior Navyug tion:" Schools but only one Senior Navyug School The lnotion was adopted. in Delhi. The children of Junior wings of Navyug schools are categorically denied automatic right of admission to the senior 12.35 brs. wing Time and again, voice has been raised by the parents and other quarters to [English] give admission to the students of Junior Navyug Schools to Senior School but their MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 requests have not been acceded to. The (i) Demand for adeqliflte Central assistance reasons given by the authorities are Dot very to provide rehef to the drought affected much convincing. people in Kerala. Sir, after passing fifth standard from junior SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN wing the students who unfortunately do not (palghat); Many parts of the district of secure 70% marks, their future becomes Palghat are in the grip of a severe very uncertain and dark. At this drought. As many as ] 3 villages in the young age, they had to rush Chittur taluq, 3 villages in the Alathur from pillar to post for getting admission taluq. 7 villages in the Mannarkad laluq. 5 in some good school and, other schools also villages in Palghat ta]uq and 5 villages in hesitate to accommodate them on the plea the Ottappalan taluq have been declared as that Senior Wing of Navyug School should drought affected. In fact, more areas in the admit their junior wing students. It is also distnct are coming under the impact of Jearnt that due to paucity of funds with the drought. These areas are a pact of the authorities it is not possible for them to Western Ghat. These are lying in the rain upgrade the junior Navyug Schools. shadow area and are, therefore prone to recurrent drought. This has re!)ulted in the I, therefo~e earnestly urge upon the Gover.- total destruction of crops. According to an ment to look into the matter and give estimate in 18,791 acre'i, the Io~c; of crops is admission to the students of Junior Navyug around Rs. 10 crorec; and 8 lakhs Palghat Schools to its senior wing by upgrading the is the rice bowl of Kera la Needless to say Junior Navyug Schools to senior level Or by that the loss of crops there will have its lowering the percentage for admission in adverse impact on the economy of the State. class VI so that the purpose for which The fact is that even drinking water is not Navyug Schools were started may not be available in most of these areas. Cattle defeated and :bildren of economically have died in large number resultIng in loss weaker sections of the society may get of the only means of livelihood for many. better education. Altbouah 'he State Government has under- taken relief measures, due to lack of funds [Translation] it cannot solve the problem funy. (iO) Need to Itreamlioe tbe marketlOl Therefore, I would request the Central f.dUtia for foreat products of tribal Government to release adequate financial areal of Madhya Pratt_ aid to meet the problems of drought and to lend a studY team to Palghat to study all SHaI ARVIND NBTAM (Kauer) aspects of the problem and sugest short Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Under Rule 377. ~ as well al toni term measures. I would like to draw the attention of tho 233 Matters Under Rule 377 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Matter, Under Rule 377 234 House towards the foHowing matter of There is a special Provision in our puW,lic importance. Constitution for the preservance of old traditions of our country. The economic LAMPS purchases the produce of the and social deveJopment of the people of na.tionalised fore~t in the tribal areas of back ward classeCl ~ Sched uled Castes and Madhya Pradesh. This practice has been Scheduled Tribes 1S a special feature of our in vogue for the last ten years with the ConstitutioD. Under the proviSions of the main objective of saving the tribal people Constit utioD, Government is committtd to from the exploitation by middlemen. The provide reservation in Government jobs economic condition of LAMPS in the whole to persons belonging to tbe Scheduled Castes of the State is pitiable. The mismanagement and the Scheduled Tribes. This is the only has cropped there due to lack of co-ordina- way to ensure the SOCid) and economic tion between the Forest Department and development of these people. I hough Co-operative Department. This year the these constitutional provisions in tbis regard purchase of 'Harara' and • Mahua' was not are well-known. yet these arc not imple- conducted in a proper way and due to it mented completeJy in some Ministries and the tr.bals had to face many difficulties. In Departments. For example, according to the coming season this year, a good pIoduce my information in manv Ministries and of Tendu leaves and Sal seeds is expected. Departments of the Government. the number But jf some reforms are Dot made in the of the Scheduled Caste employe es of cate- system. the tribals would face great incon- gory 'D9 is very Jess than the prescribed venience. quota. The Ministry of Home Affairs should take immediate stee s in this connec- Often it IS observed that due to short- tion. I request the Minister to present a age of money, LAMPS is not able to make paper to the House giving details of the the payment for many days together and number of actual Scheduled Caste employees even they refuse to purchase the commodi- in 'D' Category and of the prescribed ties at sonle places. As the entire produce quota for tbese persons. If this quota is not is from the natlonaHsed forests, ther~ DO completed, then the reasons must be marketing alternative and as such the solu- staLd. tion of the problem is imminent. I would like to request tbe Cenual [English] Government to make improvements in the marketmg system in the tribal areas. A (,.) Demand for settling claim') of refugee. single agency should be set up by establi- from Pakistan occupied areas of J aad shing co-ordination between the Forest K and Confr-rring citizenship rights 00 Department and the Co-operative Depart- refugees who migrated to J and K at tile ment. There should be an iDcre~e in tbe time 0.: partition. number of purchase-centres and enough nloney should be made available. Vigilance SHRI JA~AK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu) committees consistinl of Government and There are a large number of refugees from nOD-government representatives should be the J & Ie State whose areas have been consututed at Block~ District and State occupied by the Pal(lstan Government levels so as to bring about necessary im- durin. 1947 as they are settl~ in other parts provements after examining the working of of the State of J & K. But their cla ims for the system from time to time. resettlement have not been finalised by the Ministry of Rehabilitation, Government (iv) Need to fiD up the reservatioa quota of India so far. There are other refugees, for Scheduled castes aDd Scbedulecl who migrated from West Pakistan at the Tribes candidates io Govenuneat time of partition of the country and settled service in group fD' poIlI. in J & K State. But they have not been given the citizenship rights there in the SHRIMATI SUNDERWATI NAWAL State so far. PRABHAKAR (Karol Bash): Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, under Rule 371. I want to draw It is requested that the claims of the your attention to the followin. matter of rcfuaees from Pakistan occupied areas of pubUc importance; J &. K State be settled at the earliest abd 235 Malters Undf!r Ruff! 377 APRIL 17, J986 Matters Under Rule 236 [Shri Janak Raj Gupta] of the Asian Development Bank to advance the State Government be persuaded to give loans directly to the private parties even with.. refugees in J & K their citizenship rights. out Government guarantees add fuel to the fire. IDPL management must be made (vi) Need to witbdra,,,, tbe Muslim Womeo autonomous and at the same time accoun- (Protection of Rj~ts on Divorced) table. Workers' involvement and full Bill, 1986. and unfettered participation at all levels SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia): must be introduced and made effective. Sir. hundreds of Muslinl women have come State and Central Governments should pur" to voice their protest against the retro .. chase their requirements from IDPL and grade Muslim Women (Pcoteciton of Rights make pronlpt payments as arrears at present on Divorce) BilJ, 1986 which the Govern .. amount to Rs. 24 crores. IDPL was hand- ment is adamantly trying to enact. They ling foreign drug trade some time back are indignant as also the progressive people which had certain benefits for its finance. in the country that the rights which they Hyderabad plant is suffering from shortage won after a long struggle, they are going to of alcohol. water and power. Madras Plant lose 38 years after Independence. The main is doing weJl in case of formula formulations, question is exoneration of the husband fronl general engineering and scalpels, but it is providing compensation for his divorcee. Also lagging behind in surgical instruments. in question is the threat that Muslim women Muzaffarupur Plant is short of alcohol. would be deprived from the secular law of The Qurgaon Plant is working under capa- the land, in this case Section 125 of the city. But there is no question of closing Criminal Procedure Code. Muslim women these units. If it is done, it will be a blow are against this Bill and have therefore to the policies of the Central Government. come to tell us how strongly they feel about Surgical Plants are unviable as the produc- it. This Bill also seeks to increase the tion is not based on the actual requirements divorce rate in the country. It amounts to and not purchased by the Central and State mortgaging the rights of Muslim women Governments. In essence, the problems with some political aims. AU this is in the faced by the IDPL are no different from facade of protecting their rights. The gates that of the Public Sector as a whole. They are now being opened wide for the obscur.. are basical1y those of adequate planning antist elements in other communities to and management. The Government is not make a grand entry as if we have not allocating sufficient working capital funds enough trouble with such elements. in order to enable this company to cut down on cash losses. In the long run as well, I, therefore, urge upon the Government Government will have to allocate much more to reconsider the issue and withdraw the than what it has earmarked for this com .. Bill in question and restore confidence in pany, in order to enable it to bring in new the minds of Muslim women and do jU.itice technology and belp it move towards more to them .. lucrative product profiles to attain 'Health for All by 2000 AD'. (vii) Need for measures to solve the dUB .. culdes faced by I.D.P.L. [Translation] DR. A. KALANIDHI (Madras Central): Sir, Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals (.. iii) Demand for another thermal power Limited, one of the Asia's largest bulk statioD at Delhi to meet the power drugs manufacturers, bas accumulated a total lbortage in the Capital. loss of Rs. 143 crores for. SO per cent of its capacity is lying idle. The Company is SHRI BHARAT SINGH (Outer Delhi): saddled with obsolete machinery, high inven- Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I want to raise tories and efficient labour force. IDPL is the fonowina point under Rule 377. facing a serious crisi s and the powerful private sector including mighty transoationais Delhi gets 150 MW electricity from I.P. are whipping up an offensive against Estate ThermaJ Power Station and 300 MW it. They are utilisilll the crisis for CODver- from Badarpur Thermal Power Station tiDI this into a joint sector witb manale- while we set 150 MW electricity from ment fully in private hands. The decision Sinarauli. In spite or this, Delbi ,till re- 237 Matters Under Rule 377 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 238 quires 2S0 MW of power which is supplied as a step towards their development and for by Haryana. Delhr's power requirements the betterment of the people. are Increasing in view of its population. Now.. a-days thrashers are working in the farms. If electricity is not available, the grains will be destroyed by rains in the 12.47 hrs. fields. So electricity should be uninteruptedly supplied to farms. Keeping in view the DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL) shortage of Power in Delhi, a thermal power 1986-87-CONTD. station with the capacity of 500 MW should be set up so as to solve the power problem MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL- of Delhi. Further it can supply electricity SUPPLIES-CONTD. to every home. Thus women will also be able to get some employment by running [English] some small cottage indu~trics. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: 'Ne will now [English] take up Item No. 12-Further Discussion and Voting on the Demands for Grants (ix) Demand for opening of Brancbes of Agri- under the control of the Ministry of Food cultural Development Bank in Alfgaoj, and Civil Supplies. Dr. Rajhans. Patlali and Bhargain in Etah district of U.P. [Translation] SHRI MOHD MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN DR. G. S. RAJHA~S (Jhanjharpur) : (Etah): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at present Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I was saying that Kanara Bank is tbe only Bank ",hich is although the v.holesalt: price might have functioning as a Lead Bank in District Etah. come down yet there bas been no decrease Aliganj which is a Tehsil and Block Head- in the retail prke. In Civil Supplies Report, Quarter with a population of over 20.000 is at page no. 6. following is mentioned. baving only one commercial bank branch of the State Bank of India and the advances and deposits at this Branch during 1985-86 fEnglish] were to the tune of Rs. one crore respecti- veJy. "The Consumer Price Index for Indus- trial Workers moved up by 7 5 per cent A need for opening a Branch of during April-November,) 985, compared the AgricuUural Development Bank in to 6.6 pe.r cent in the corresponding Aliganj has been felt since lona. SimIlarly period in 1984. In November, 1985, tbe in Patiali Tebsil Headquarter and Block Consumer Price Index was 5.9 per cent Headquarter, there is DO Bank Branch and higher than tbat of the same month even for the Government transactions one in 1984. has to go to A\iganj, Bhargain Town having a population of more than ::!O,OOO is having lTran.slation 1 no Bank Branch whereas other areas with lesser population are baving commercial We all know how Price Index is prepared. Bank Branches. The Gramin Banks opened What I mean to say is that 1 he way the within a radious of 3 KM practically do not price has increased in the market bas scared advance any agricultural loans and the the people. If the hon. ~Iinister accom- purpose of opening Gramin Banks in the panies me to the market, then I can show villages is therefore defeated. him now the prices are rising. Whatever we say in our reports and speech, we canoot With a view, therefore.. to provide ade- overlook the fdctS. Food management plays quate commercial hankina service to these a vital role in bringing down the prices of areas I would request tbe Government commoditi~. Pood management plays tbrouah you and this Auau.t House to open greater part than the production of food items. branches of the Agricultural Development I would like to draw your attention to page BuJc each in Aliaanj, Patiali and BharpiD No. 11 of the Report. It reads : 239 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 240 [Dr. G. S. Raj/aans ] three or four years. you will be in deficit. [English] The production of foodgrain is deClining in the country but the Government is not "Page It, Item 4.2 : The availability of paying any heed towards this ser ious most of the manufactured commodities problem. and items of mlSS consumption was also satisfactory. However~ there have been The Government did not pay the rea- reports of sho:-tages of kerosene despite n sonable price of sugarcane to the farmers higher allocation. owing to its wrong poliCies as a result of [Translation J which they had stopped its production. Con- sequently the Government had to import Sir, I would like to state with utmost sugar from other countries. It caused great humility that this is not true. People do not loss of precious foreign exchange. We get the cOlnmodities of m~s~ consump- burnt it as it were and we all arc responsible tion easily. No doubt, you have hinted that for this. Now the same thing is happening there are complaints regardIng kerosene oil. with jute-growers Jute-growers are victims But your kerosene oil is being smuggled to of injustice. Thousands of tonnes of jute neighbouring countries I du not know ha~ been burnt because the jute growers whether you are seized of this or not but have not even got one fourth of their cost you should make enquiries about it. price. So, what had h~tppened in case of Sugarcane, the same th ing is happen i.., g with When we pay a visit to Our constituen- jute and other food products. I reque'it the cies, we find that electricity iii available for Gov""mment to pay proper attention toward~ two to three hours a month and kero~ene this problem otherwjse we may face the is not available. Only we know with how acute problem of foodgrain in the coming mush dtfficulty we pass our time. The years and may require to import foodgrains. Government S3.y that kero5ene is avaitablt If it happened we would be in critical condi- verY easily. It is not true. Supply of kero- tion because at present our pOSition of sene has been inadequate in Bihar. balance of payment is not good. Regarding After this you have written about the essential commodities, on page 14 it is trend in the production of foodgrains. stated that management has been improved I agree that you can say that production of and training has been imparted to the foodgrains is under the Ministry of Food people. In this regard. I would ]ike to say and Civil Supplies, but despite that what tbat the officers in F.e.I. and in other you have written is an eye-opener. The corporations are so corrupt that it beggars production of foodgrains of which you are description. The issue has been discussed boasting before the whole world has threadbase yesterday, and in case it is dis- decreased and not increased. It is true cussed further it will reveal so many other that the procurement by Food Corporation things. has been much higher than in the previous year but the production of foodgrains I am concluding after ~ubmitting one has decreased. This matter causes great or two points move. On p:tge 15, a ~ry concern. Have you ever tried to find out interesting thing has been m~ntjoned. I the reasons of decreased in the production would like to draw your particular attention of foodorains1 When we visit the villages, towards that. the farmers ask us why they should produce foodgrains if they did not get the price even [English] equal to tb at of their inputs. They say that they would better take some job and "Prevention of Blackmarketing and lead their I ife that way rather than be en- Maintenance of Supplies of Essential gaged in agriculture. The Government is Commodities Act 198\1 which empowers oblivious of this situation. The fall ID the Central and State Government to production has been marginal upto now. I. detain persons whose activities are found percentage, it looks less, but quantitywise to be prejudicial to tbe nlaintenance of it is m.lch more and if the attitude of the supplies of commodities essential to '!overnment remains tbe same, then wit~iq comm\lJlity J is beiDI inlplcmented by 241 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 242 th~ States and Union Territories. From happening all over the cGuntcy. Such mal- the inception of the Act till 31st practices should be checked otherwise it will October 1985, 849 persons were ordered create resentment among the people. to be detained under this Act." [Translation] *SHRI R. ANNANAMBI (Pollachi) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on behalf of my In such a large country, only 8~9 party the All India Anna D.M.K. I rise persons were detained whereas the extent of to make a few suggestions in support of tbe bungling and dishonesty is known to aU. Demands for Grants of the Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies for the year DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South 1986.87. Central) : And no one has been punished! 13 hrs. DR. G .S. RAJHANS : Along with this I would like to say that some corpora- I would like to recal1 here the oft-re- tions of the Food and Civil Su pplies peated assertions ·of Pandit Jawaharla1 Ministry such as Modern Food Industries Nehru that economic revolution should and Warehousing Corporation are working follow the political revolution and then excellently. alone the common people would derive benefits from the political revolution. Imme- In the end 9 I would bke to say that diately after independence, Pandit 1awaharlal there is a large scope of setting up of Food Nehru laid great stress on agricultural processing industries in our countrY. The development. He ushered the era of Five Government have set up Mango Processing in Year Plans. The first Five Year Plan was Factory in Bhagalpur and Pineapple Juice entirely an agricultural plan. He ensured Factory in Silchar. In the Mithila region that gigantic irrigation projects were imple- of north Bihar, a large quantity of raw mented on schedule so that the water, the material is available. The Inangoes are ~rimary. input for agricultural growth, available at a very cheap rate. If food IS supphed to the cultivable fields in tbe processing industry is established there it country. He also encouraged agricultural would provide great relief to the p~r research. The spade work done by his farmers and the t!rinks would be available Government has today made the country to the people at a very cheap rate. You self-sufficient in foodgrains. In fact, we are have started the drink 7i, but if you prepare exporting foodgrains today. Our Prime mango or any otber fruit drink. that would Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, ensured tbat be much better. The 77-drink i~ similar to foodgrains were rushed from India to tbe that of 77-Government. I would say that . . ".-_ time has come when we have to do re-think- star~ln& mllilon~ i~ .. ~ African countries. Indian revolutl~. in a~ltural production ing about the Food and Civil Supplies has been acclaimed by !be ood and Agri. Department beCause it is a very important 4-'f cultural Organi~tion of the U.N. Today department. The economy of the country we have in stool more dian 240 lakh tonnes depends upon the Food Inanagement. If of foodgrains so that 'we can meet any people do not get foodgrains at the reason. natural calami ty like drought i.n future. able ratcs, there will be great hue and cry all over the country. I cite an example that everyday it is announced that the carton I am glad to say that the Government should not be weighed with sweets but not is not complaisant with seU-sufficiency in even a sinlle shopkeeper follows it. foodgrains producrton. All efforts are beiDI made to sustain the self-sufficiency by I had to touch many other points but implementing agriculture-oriented schemes. due to lack of time I cannot. On television In 1986..81 Central Budget a sum of it was shown in "Rajanf' Programme Rs. 1600 crores has b.!eD allocated exclu- ~erials how fair price shops were indulging si vely for agricultural development so that In mal-practices. Today, the same thinl is our foodgrains production is augmented. ·The speecb was originally delivered in Tamil. 243 D. G. (Gell.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-81 244 [SJui R. Annanambi] bounds, the pitiable plight of the people of Pandit Jawahailal Nehru was very fond Tamil Nadu and only after that .. under the of children jn the country. He paid special express direction of our Prime Minister, attention to their problems. He was keen that adequate quantities of rice were supplied the children are supplied with nutritional to Tamil Nadu. The people of Tamil Nadu food all over the country. OUf Chief (\1inister, did not ask for a separate State. They Purachi Tbalaivar Dr. M.G .R, is equally wanted (oodgrains to appease their gnawing concerned with the children in the State. hunger. Our Chief Minister had to COlne He is also keen to ensure that children are to Delhi j n person and appri se the hon. the future assets of India. That is why be Prime Minister about the magnitude of the formulated the Nutritions Noon Meals people's misery in the State. Our hOD. scheme for tbe benefit of the children. This Prime Minister responded (0 the pleas of nutritions noon meals scheme has attracted our Chief Minister magnanimously. the attention of several international dIgni- taries. It is relevant to mention here that Here it is worth mentioning that when on.;e the State Government wanted to supply the State Government has not asked for rice to the central PO,)}. t he State Govern- additional allotment of foodgrains for tbis scheme. The State Government is imple- m :nt was (old that the Central pool did menting this scheme within its quota of not require the ric~ ~Dd the State Govern- foodgrains. In appreciation of this laudable ment cO:JIJ ex')ort it aho. I ,1m uOdble to effort, in the Seventh Five Year Plan, the appreciate .;;uch inconsistt.:DCICS In the nutritious noon m~als scheme has been implementation of food policy by the taken up as a Plan scheme. I am cons Central Government trained to refer to this because of the faulty implementation of the food policy of When our leJder Dr. M.G.R assumed the Government. I would also like to the Office of the Chief Mini'iter of Tamil 7 highlight the contradictions in the matter of Nadu jn 19 7, the State was producing only release of foodgrains from the Central 62 lakh tonne3 of foodgrains. By imple· menting vigorously several schemes for Pool. augmenting agricultural production. in 1986 In 1983-8t Tamil Nadu was ravaged by the production of foodgrains in Ta'llilnadu severe cyclone and thousands of acres of is of the order of ~o lakh tonnes. Today in land with standing crops in the di~trict of Tamllnadu the rice is being supplied to the Tbanjavur, which is known as the Granary people at RI). 2.25 rer Kg. In no other State of Tamil Nadu, were inundated. Even at you will find this. The f.umers were being that time the Government of Tdmil Nadu given electric supplY at J") paise per unit. led by our enlighteDe~ >~teader Dr. M. G . R But today the farmers ar~ getting electricity did not ask for aldition8l allocation of at t 2 paise per unit. The commercial crops foodgtains. But l_~. _ was severe and several other crops h:lve been exempted drought in Tamil· Nadu and the delay in from taxes and duue4J. The agricultural the supply of foodarains (c0'9-'c the Central cooperative credit loans bavt! been repealed. Poot accentuated ,he misery of the m85ses. The men and women agricultural workers rc!~pectively. This compelled the Chief Minister (0 hIgh- have been given dhoti and san light the problems of tbe people of Tamil By giving such incentives and inducements Nadu to the Central Government. He Jed the Government of Tamil Nadu led by the the one-day hunger strike throuahout the inimitabJe leader Dr. M.G.R has produced state of Tamil Nadu. This hunger strike last year ~) lakh tonnc;s of foodgcaios. was just to focus tbe attention of the When such a State wants foodgrains from Central Government about irregular tbe Central Pool. there should be no hesi- supplies of foodgrains. The response from tation to supply tbe rf'qu;red quantum of the Ministry was very poor. The Ministry foodgrains to that State. of Food and Civil Supplies did not come to the rescue of the peopJe or Tanli I Nadu In 1985. through fair priCe:' shops only itlsucb a several erisb. Our Chief Minister. , ,54,50,000 tonnes of {oodgc.,ins had been Dr. M.G.R. brou,bt to the notice of our suppl ieJ. That means, 4"2 crores of People bon. Prime Minilter. Sbri Rajiv Gandhi, who according to the admission oC the whose compassion for tbe poor knows DO Central Planoing Commission who live 245 D. G. (Gt!n.) 1986-87 CIJAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 246 below poverty line have been giveD this after year. I demand that stringent action much of foodgrains. I am sure that the must be taken against the erring officers. hon. Minister will not .contradict thIs. 67 commodities are covered by the Essential In other words, the people be ow poverty Commodities Act. In 1985 some action was 1ine are slowly and steadily marching taken against the hoarders, profiteers. and t\)wards the line of death due to pau~ity of black-marketeers for violating the provisions essential commodities. The public distribu- of this Act. But daterrent punishment is tion systeIll hac; not been strengthened to not awarded to them. The hoarders, Pro- meet the growing needs of tbe poor people. fiteers and black marketeers are responsible The hone Minister will say that the State for price rise, artificial scarcity and shortage, Governments will have to do this job How as they indulge in anti-social activities. can the State Governments strengthen the They must be brought to book under this public distribution system in rural areas Jaw. In rural areas. kerosene is the main without assurej supply of foodgrains from fuel for cooking and for lighting. Unless the the Central Pool? As on 30.6.1985 there kerosene is supplied in adequate quantity to were 3.20 lakh fair price shops in the the rural areas. the people will revert back country. Out of this~ I am sure that about to deforestation. This trend must be averted 2 lakh fair price shops would be in urban at any cost. Dr. M.G.R, endowed with areas, leaving 1.20 lakb fair price shops in everlasting compassion for the poor, is 5.5 lakh viJlages. You can well imagine the implementing the policy of one electric .plight of rural peopJe. If the viJlages are light to one hut in the rural areas. All the exterininated, can the towns continue to villages in Tamil Nadu have been electrified. exist? For developing rural economy and The electricity to the one light in a hut is rural development in the establishment of supplied free by the State Government. I industr:es, we have the Central Rural Deve- demand that the expenditure being incurred lopment Deplrttnent. Yet the vilJage~ do nor by the State Government on this scheme have fair price shops assuring the supply of should be compensated by the Central essential commodities. The Central Govern- Government by treating this scheme as a ment should ensure the supply of substantill Plan scheme. In Udumalpettai, which is a quantities of foodgrains to the State part of my parliamentary constituency, Governments SO that more fair price shops there is a cooperative sugar mill. I suggest can be established by the State Govern- that a similar sugar mill in cooperative ments. sector shOUld be allowed to be set up in Thondamuthur adjacent to Coimbatore. The Central Government gave Rs. 1650 If this is not feasible. a sugar mill should crOles as subsidy to the Food Corporation be allowc!d to be set up in ~rivate sector. of India. Recently there was 3 news item With these words I conclude. that in the raids conducted by CSI all over the country several senior officers of Fel were found guilty of amassing unaccountable [English] wealth. The hon. Minister in his reply to the debate s:10uld indicate how many SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI officer" f)ave been really punished. The FCI (Bellary): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to gives lakhs and lakhs of rupees as hire support the Demands for Grants of the charaes for private warehouses for the pur- Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies. pose of stocking foodgraIQ'i. Why should not the FCI hdve its own godowns ? I want to know when the pel will complete the At the outset I would like to congratu- late our Go\·ernment whose major of constru~tion of its own godowns. About thrust 3 t.12 Jakh tonnes of foodgr4ios are stored policy has continued to be on increased in open with the consequence that about 5 production and improvement in the manaae- ment of supplies of various essential commo- lakh tOQnes a year are destroyed by insects and rodents. Can we afford thi~ national dities. The availability of essential commodities Joss when our pcople are starving for good- and items of mass consumption remained grains? I do not know the silence and aenerally satisfactory duriol the year. I inaction of the Central Government when thank the bon. Minister and the Govern- tbe losses of Fel are mounting up year ment for this. 247 D. G. (G~II.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 248 [SlIrlntflti BtUava RaJeswari] ago in Punjab, hundreds of tonnes of wheat 13.16 brs. waS lost due to rain water. Similar cases and fire accidents in the gOdOWDS have been re- [SHRI ZAINUL BASHER in the Chair] ported from various parts of the country. Hence, our Government should ensure pro- In the recent years we have reached new per storage facilities to foodgrains. records in the production of foodgrains except pulses. Sugar production is also satis- In the fair price shops all the items are factory. The public distribution system has not available at all the times. Sometimes, been reco8llised as a permanent feature of there will be shortage of borne items. There the economy, for supply and distribution of are also cases where the distributors put 'No essential commodities at reasonable prices stock' boards, even though the commodities to the people, particularly to the weaker sec- are available in their shops. Such cases and tions of the society after the introduction of also cases of corruption in the offices should the 20-point programme. be dealt with seriously. To achieve this goal, more and more Adulteration, Hoarding and Black-marle- fair price shops should be opened throughout ting should be curbed. Adulteration has the country paniculary in the rural areas. spread in tbe country like a malady. Adulter- ation is there in edible oil, rice, wheat etc. Sir, each village, with a population of and adulteration in kerosene is also being 500, should have one fair price shop. All witnessed ID various parts of the country. items like pulses, soap, cloth etc. should be Adulteration and shortcomings shOUld be included in this. It would be more accurate firmly dealt with by the Government. Black- and appropriate if essential commod ities like marketeers and hoarders shOUld be given maida, sugar, rice, etc. are distributed stringent punishment. Special subsidies should through weighed packets, in the rural areas be given to the States which have been so al to avoid shortcomings. affected by severe drough t. You are a ware Secondly, I suggest that there should be most of the States Karoataka, Andhra better coordination between procurement, Pradesh, Gujarat and parts of Maharashtra- supply, and distribution of these commodi- have been very much affected by severe ties. For example, there is an inordinate drought this year. The Government should delay in procuring sugar from the sugar altogether think in a different way so as to factorices. I have been told that there is lot give more foodgrains for the affected people of delay in procurement of the levy sugar at a subsid ised rate. and the factories are incurring beavy losses. Ultimately it will be switched on to the far- Sir. the green card holders are getting mer, who is the ultimate sufferer. grains at subsidised price. But the farmers who belong to the middle-class, they are very Therefore, (suggest tbat at the time of much denied of this opportunity. I suuest procurement ot levy sugar, there shoud be that even farmers who belong to the middle- a time bound programme. For example, there class, they should be provided one or tWO are instances where the State Governments bap of wheat and rice per month OD a loan are delaying in the matter of procurement basis so tbat the money can be recovered of supr, rice. wheat etc. which has been after the harvest is over. This suggestion I allotted to the respective States. Thil is also would like to make on this occasion becauae causing lot of inconvenience at the time of 1 have been seeing mostly rarmera who distribution in the lower levels. Therefore, be I0" to middle-class families are Ve.rA much here also, I sugest that there should be a donied of this opportunity. Because they time bound Pl'op-amme at the time of Iiftiua have Dot lOt their arecn card., they are the foodlrains or supr by the State Oovern- denied of the grains at subsidiaed rato. meats and by the Food Corporation or India in their respectift States. I have been told th. t Government of Sit, the stora.p facility of foodarains is India baa aDotted lome arains to vario.. very much inadequate throuahout tbe country. States at free of cost. I do not know whether Proper pdOWDs are not there. A few month. the States arcd distributin. tbe Ifains at free of 249 D. G. (Gen.) 1986...87 CHArtRA 21. 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 250 cost. But I am told that the States have been Funher, to protect the interests of the selling them at a subsidised rate. I would consumers, more and more national work- like to ask a clarification from the hOD. shops and seminars should be organised. Minister whetber the States are distributing Sucb programmes should be given wide the grains at free of cost or they are selling publicity through the media-pa pers radio at a subsidised rate; if so what i. the aDot- television and apprise the consu~s as t~ ment to various states in this respect. I how their interests can be protected. In the would like to know about this from the drought-hit areas. cards have not been hone Minister. distributed properly. There is a lot of discrimination. The needy persons have Sir, the consumer cooperative movemeal not received the green cards. plays a vital role in the success of distribution trade. The large network of consumer But a thorough survey has to be under- cooperatives strive to ensure equitable taken by the various State Governments so distribution or scarce goods and exert healthy as to see that the deserving people get this influence on price structure quality and green with the help of which they can service to the consumers. Super Bazars, card Apna Bazares and Kamadhenu. etc. are doing set foodgrains at subsidised price in the affected areas. good service in this regard. However, the rural areas have been neglected very much. I would also request the hone Minister The cooperatives ha~e 32000 retail outlets in to set up Advisory Committees at the the urban areas. ID the rural areas. district level with the local representatiyes where more than 70 per cent of our ~or proper check and avoid shortcomings, population live, only 40000 rural cooper- lotroduce consumer protection training ative societies have been pro-vided with Pl'OII'8mmes. quality control. etc. These financial assistance under the Central Sector duties should be entrusted with this Com- Scheme to open retail out lets for distribut- mittee, fn each district. There are instances ion of consumer goods in the rural areas whore shortages in stocks, adulteration. etc. including tribal areas. This is not at all sufficient. Therefore, I urge upon the Minister have come to notice. More and more (air to increase such retail outlets in the rural price shops should be opened and they areas atleast by five times. I appreciate the should be entrusted to this Advisory Com.. idea of having introduced mobile super mittee at the district level. bazars in cities like Delhi. This movement has enabled the essential commodities to Finally, I must thank our late Drime move towards the people instead of the Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi for people going to far off places where such contributing foodgrains and other things to bazars are located. Such mobile shops or the people of African country. So also I bazars sbould be increased in number, congratulate the farmers on the floor of according to the needs of the population. I tbis House for having achieved self-sufli- plead with the hone Minister to introduce ciency in food grains by using scientific such mobile shops in all the cities. methods and modern technology. In the public distribution scheme and in Lastly. I thank the hone Prime Minister, the cooperative societies, more opportlmities Shri Ilajiv Gandhi for his announcement to must be giveD to ladies, as the nature of the supply foodlrains to tbe areas where Adivasis job is suitable to them. The entire network live at subsidised rate. I thank you, Mr. of this system should be expanded. The Chairman, for giving me this opJ)Ortunity FCI should improve its efficiency. Govern- to speak on the Demands for Granta for lDent should ensure that all the essential the Ministry Food and Civil Supplies. commodities wiD reach the far-fIuDa areaa of our country. Tbore is a lot or bunalina in this [7rClft.SlatIo. ] scheme in the rural and backward areas. This SHRlMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA (Mali.. must be checked immediately. Then only, I bart) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support am lure. tbat the twID objectives of controlliDa tho demaads for arants of the Food aad the pr1cca and helpina the poor masses wilh eml Supplies Ministry. It is a very important essential commodities could be achieved. 251 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 APRIL I?, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 19&6-87 252 [Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta] and ensure proper supply of essential com- Ministry beca use it directly relates to the modities to the people at fair price. poor. Schedule Tribe and the general public as it supplies aU essential commodities to Secondly, you have pointed out the them. Whenever the demands for grants of shortage of pulses except gram. You have any Minis try are presented in the House, mentioned especially the shortage of Arhar they attract the attention of all the citizens and Moong. The Government should who want to know the new policies of the encourage the production of these pulses. It Government benefiting them. has aJso been mentioned in 20-Point Prog- ramme that production of pulses wi 11 be The success of Supply Department encouraged. The production of oil-seeds and depends upon its supply management, pulses in our country is not sufficient to production policy and price control. So I meet our requirements. You know the want to draw the attention of the Govern- pulses contain protein and for the poor they ment towards these points. are the sole source of protein. Therefore, the production of pulses should be incre- I tried to go through the Annual Report ased. of the Ministry presented by tbe Govern- ment and noted that the Ministry has done Sir, a National Consumer Association remarkable job in some cases. But it disap- was established in 1965. And its units have pointed me that the arrangement of mobile been opened in the cities and villages to shops made by the Government to provide supply the essential commodities to the foodgrains. pulses, sugar and oil at cheap consumer. But no attention has been paid rates in the tribal area, is not working towards pulses. Their prices rise upto Rs. ten satIsfactorily. As far as I know, the items to twelve per kilogram. I would, there- are drawn in their name but actually do not fore, request the Government to fix the price reach them in full. Therefore, it is neces- of pulses maximum at rupees six to seven sary to make proper arrangement for its per kg. so that the poor and the common effective supervision and to ensure the Bupply man may be in a poSition to purchase of essential commodities to tri bal areas as them. also to ensure that the Government pro- grammes are successfully implemented. Mr. Chairman, Sir, you are supplying sugar, wheat and rice under Public Distri- Secondly, I want to say something regarding bution System but are not supplying pulses. the price control. It is an acid test for any I, therefore, request you to also supply department how far it has succeeded in pulses to rural and urban areas under thiS controlling the price and made essential sJstem. In villages, pulses are grown and commodities avaiJabJo to the common man people use them but in cities medium and at reasonable prices. In the statistics, while lower class people do not get them as these showing the wbolesale price index for the are also not grown there. Therefore, under year 1985-86, you have shown a considera- Public Distribution System. pulses should ble fall in the prices of all articles. I could also be lold in cities. The price of pulses not understand from where these figures should not be more than Rs. 6 per kg. have been collected and how you have ca1culated the wbole-sale price index. Beside Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to say being a member of the Lolc Sabha, I am something about supr.. You should also also a hoasewifc and have to manage tbe enquire about tbe quality of suaar being household. I, theroCore, know that the imported. I want to tell you OD tbe basis price control claimed by the Government is of my own experjcoce in this regard that the not cvrrect. You can enquire about the imported sugar is less sweet than our foodgrain prices in the market. The rice has indiacnous SUlar. Where one spoonful of come in the market in December only and our indiacnous aranular supr ia lufticient, DOW it is April, so you can, enquire the rates even J to 4 spoonfuls of imported suau do of different varieties of rice. The prices not luflice. So you mould pay special of all articles are ~ky-rockettinl. The things attention towards it as lUlU' is an essential have gone beyond one's reacb. You should commodity. Moreover imported supr heiDI p:ly special attention towards these thinp las sweet proves to be coatlier. 2S3 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 .254 The price of the sugar has increased a tonnes of wheat and storage capacity availa- lot in the open market and this is only due ble is for 4 million tonnes only and 9 to your double price policy regarding sugar. million tonnes of wheat is lying in lhe open On one band. it is sold through Public as you do not have that much storage Distribution System and on the other it is capacity. There is every po~slbility of this also sold in the open market. Sir quantity huge quantity of wheat being spoiled in the of sugar given per unit, tbrough fair price open in the absence of requisite storage shops is not sufficient. Therefore, to meet capacity. In order to prevent it from rot- the requirements of a family, one has to ting, it is necessary to abolish dual price purchase it from the open market also. polIcy and supply wheat to the Flour Mills Arbitrary prices are charged in the open at the rate of Rs. 190/- per quintaJ as in the market. In Bihar, sugar is even being sold case of Public? Distribution System at Rs. 10 per kg. In other places, people are because Government has permitted even buying it at Rs. 11 per kg. Therefore, these flour mill owners to purcbase I request you to take measures to control the wheat from the open market also. When price-rise in sugar in Bihar. Until you make Wheat is available in the market at the rate the supply of sugar sufficient and regular, of Rs. 190,'- per quintal easily, then why the people will have to face the problem. should they purchase it at the rate of Supply should be sufficient and regular Rs. 220 per quintal from the Government? otherwise your Pub] ic Distribution System Therefore, Y0U should incre3.se ) our storage j..; not going to slay longer. Therefore, it is capacity. Today, the food production is my special request to you that you shou Id increasing day-by-day but if we do not have immediately pay attention towards it. tbe proper facilities to store it then we cannot make use of it. The Food Cor- Mr. Chairman through you I want to poration of India has Dot been abJe to draw the hone Minister's attention towards cope with the situation and as a result of a special matter Public Distribution System that the grains worth billions of rupees get is an important part of our 20-Point Pro- spoiled. If Food Corporation of India and gramme. In 1979, there were 2.19 lakh Ministry of Supply o1ake arrangements for shops u~der Public Distribution System proper storage then only can they be abJe which increased to 3.20 lakhs in 1985. It is to do justice to the job they have been really a matter of joy that you h~ve iocreased allotted. the number of shops immensely. I request you that these shops under Public Distri- You should also take note of it that the bution Systerp should also start distributing price of wheat is Rs. 190 per quintal in kerosene oil in rura} areas as at present Public Distcibution System whereas the same these are on!y distributing wheat, rice and wheat is being sold at the rate of Re. 1 per sugar, though sugar is also not available in kilo in international markets. Government every village. The villages which are sihlated propose to go in for international trade in on the river banks in far flung areas and other wheat which seems to be impractical. backward villages do not let sugar at aU. Government should look into it. Wnen They are the people who have not seen train ] nternational price is Re. ] per kilo then or bus even after 38 years of independence. why should they purchase wheat from us at It bas to be ensured by our Government tbe rate of Rs. 190,'- per quintal. as well as the Minister for Supply at; to how sugar can be made available to these people. With these words, I conclude but I once again want to say that you must control the Mr. Chairman, one more thing which I prices and make proper slorage faci lities. want to say is tbat you have fixed price of wheat at Rs. 220 per quintal for flour mill SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL owners whcrea. it is Rs. 190 per quintal for (Chandni Cbowk) : Mr. Chairnlan, Sir, Public Distribution System. ]t is quite I support the Demands for Grants of the correct as poor people should set it at a Ministry of Food and Civil Sqppli-:s. I cheaper rate. But I wa at to raise another want to tell you somethiQI about the COm.. point. You have a stock of 13 lakh million mon man, directly linked with it. 255 D. G. (G~n.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986.87 256 [Slui Jai Prakash Agarwal] you even carry out raids on such Fair Price Government can only fulfil its aim if Shops, file a case against the allottees for there is a perfecr distribution system. short quantity, and even jail them. There The essenti a) commodities, which should be is a defect in your system that on the one available to the people at cheaper rates, do hand you do not give the fun quantity and not reach the people due to the fautty dis- OD the other prosecute them. tribution system. As a result of that, the Similarly. it is also vety ridiculous that people have to face prol)lems and Govern- tbe shopKeeper i~ given a commission of ment also cannot fulfil its aim. RI. 2.1S per bag but Delhi State Civil I shall speak about the Fair Price Shops. Supplies charges Rs. 3.85 as labour charges The commodities, which PDe buys from a per bag. AI such, how can you say that Fair Price Shop are of bad quality One the shopkeeper will not indulge in dishon- cannot eat the wheat available at these nesty. shops as it is rotten and bas foul smell. But poor people ~~ re bound to eat it as they When you make him to bear so much do not have any other alternative. txpenses and allow a commission of only Rs. 2.15~ he is bound to take recourse to Once cancelled, a Fair Price Shop unfair means. You go and see that the does Dot start functioning again even upto people do not let sugar supply for a month. a period of 2 months and also is not allotted When one takes round of fa ir price shops to some other person which creates a lot of for a wee~ to get supplies of wheat and problems for the local people. sugar, be is told that the sugar stock has not arrived and that he should come afler To get a ration-card also has its diffi- ten days. Thereafter. the shop remains culties. When a local man wants to let a ration-card issued to him. he does not get closed for a (ornight. When be visits them after a week again, is again told that it unless he pays Rs. 200 for it. If we do he the sugar is out of stock. Thus, t his system not improve thi! system, tben we can't achieve our aim. itself is defective. You get it rectified. If it is not corrected, we can never succeed in There are certain places where controlled achieving the objective of Shri Rajiv cloth is not sold. I do not know the reason Gandhi of providing quality food items to behind it. Do poor people not live in tbe poor a t a cheaper ra tee Delhi? There are also some other places where controlled cloth is not distributed as Similarly, the goods that are sold in Kamatak, Kerala etc. Do the rich people Super Bazar are purchased from the open onl} live there? If you bappen to see Delhi market. Tbe goods wbich are available to and its colonies, you will find that these the consumer from tbe market at wholesale are full of poor people. The people who prices are sold in Super Bazar at a compara- live in slums, katras, jhuggis and resettle- tivelY higber price. You claim'that you are ment colonies do not get this controlled selling goods in Super Bazar a t cheaper cloth. Is thi~ cloth only meant for the rural prices. But when you purchase clot b from people? Should the poor people who live in the market, your commission agents come cities, not let this controlled cloth? I could ioto the picture and since tbe cloth is pur- not understand as to why you can't make chased through these agents, it costs you the controlled cloth available to the people more. SOt how can claim that yo Ilr Public of Delhi througb Fair Price Shops tbrou,b Distribulion system is better? I think there co.operative societies or other means. Why is much scope for improvement in it and ia it Dot available? if you do not pay attention towards it, the Besides, I want to apprise you of the people would raise their voice &pinst it and problems faced by tbe atlot~ or Pair say that tbis system is defective. I hope, you Price Shops wbca they 80 to lOt their sup. would pay morc attention to it aDd brio, plies. It is very stranp that Cull price per further improvement in this aYltem. bag of wheat etc. is cbarpd from &hem. but th~ baga ~re .bott-woilbed to the ex- Now. I would like to say a few thiDP teDt of ten to twenty kilos. Now you leO, about the cloth beiDg produced by the 257 D. G. (GM.) 1986-87 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 258. N.T.C. mills. This cloth is meant for the opportunity to give clarification in his poor and is supposed to reach them. The defence instead of treating him as a thief. big trader opens bogus cooperative societ ies and managos to purcbase subsidised cloth Likewise, your licencing system is as 'then sells it at a premium in the market. old as of 1955, the time when the country Tbe people rarely know about your system of was facing a great shortage of foodgrains manufacturing subsidised cloth for the poor. and under the provisions of that law, the You have no systematic advert'sing to tell shopkeeper was required to dis\')\ay in front the people where and from which shop cloth of his shop the balance stock. at a cheaper price is available. They go to the big shops . (Interruptions) That is why I have I think that law is no more needed said that they go to the big shops. Tbere now. Our country is self-sufficient in tbe are Dlany places where such cloth is not matter of food grains and we are having available and Delhi is no exception either. abundant production of foodgrains in the SecondlY. the surplus production is sold country. It is not proper now to take the to the private shopkeepers. trader for a thief and tie a noose around his neck. I would like to request the When there is so much demand tor Government' to improve its distribution cloth and the poor man experiences difficulty system which has a Jot of stope for improve· in getting cloth, I fail to understand how ment. The people are suffering" lot on this surplus production cao be possible in such account. Besides, tbe GoverDfficnt are not a situation. What happens is that it is shown able to achieve their objective of as surplus and is sold to the private shop- reaching the poor people through the keepers at cbeap rate. You should stock public distribution system, because it has that cloth as it is badly needed in the re- a number of shortcomings. These short- mote corner~ of the country. Each and comings should be removed. every poor man needs this doth. He wears rags and wants to purcbase cloth at a cheap With these words, I support the price; he is so anxious to buy it, but Demands for Grants of this Ministry. your distribution system itself is Dot proper. There is a lot of scope for improvement in [ English] this system. The poor people are not getting the facilities which you intend to DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South provide Therefore. I suggest them. would Central): For this Department, the govern- Dot know that your Advisory Councils-I do ment has come out with a clear proposal exactly if there are any-should have public that tbey are going to give Rs.· 650 crores representatives on them constituency-wise so as subsidy for wheat and rice. W~ther that they could give their suggestions to this subsidy is really going to the poor or bring the difficulties of the pubJic to tbe not is to be studied. From the various fore. figures given by the government I find that One thing I would like to say about the the farmers of Punjab and Haryana are Essential commodities Act also. Uader the contributing more than 60 per cent. You Act you have provided that if the stock of are paying Rs. 152 or Rs. IS7 per kg. to the a shopkeeper is formed in excess or short farmers. This year you have acquired more by five, ten or twenty bag! of foodgrains. than about 20 million tonnes of wheat and a case can be registered against him and he rice (198S-86) which is more than doub1e can even be jailed. But if a trader has a stock during tbe last two or three years. It is a of 5,000 bags and if be has already issued good thing that the government has acqui- a slip to lift five bags and suppose those red this much quantity of wheat and rice. the bags are Dot lifted on that day or are lifted But after taking wheat and rice from farmels, what we to see is this. The the Dext day or supposing there is an error have in addition or subtraction, why such a severe distribution system of tbe Food Corpora- puniabmont of jail or prosecution be meted. tion of India is very important, as far as out to him for such a petty tbing. He has national interest is concerned. The coat Qot committed a murder. If he has any price for the Food Corporation of India is genuine di8iculty. ho must be given, aD comiD8 to be Rs. 262. 00. ,So about R.c. 1:05 2B D. G. (G.... ) ]916-17 APR.IL 17, 1986 D. G. (G.".) 1916-11 260 (Dr. DGlltl Sal.,] But really the pOor are Dot benefitted by per q. is the expense of the pel-so paise these subsidies. It is high time that Govern- for handling and storage and ~S paise for ment consider a fair distribution of these procmement charges. The farmers who are items to the poor. cultivatina wheat and ri~ you are paying them Rs. 152 per quintal. 67% Fcr has procured this year 20 million more are the total expenses of the FCI. tonnes of wheat and rice and they WIlt be You are selling it in the public distribution procuring another 10 million tonnes in the system at Rs. 2/- per kg. And you say that coming year because of good crop. Because you are giving 62 paise as subsidy per kg. of the faulty system of distribution, there is It ia reaUy too much. A similar thing is SO per cent capacity with the Fel for happening in the case of rice also. It is very storage of these items. For 50 per cent important to note that you are procuring further capacity, FCI is taking godowns from the farmers at Rs. 1. 57 per kg. and from the public at random on hire. That is you are selling in tbe pubhc distribution why, for the first time in the history, FeI system at Rs. 21 -per kg. And on that you has decided to sell wheat in public auction are spending Rs. 1600 crores as subsidy for between Rs. 192 and 197 per quintal. Upto wheat and rice. Are all these subsidies March about 17 lakh tonnes of wheat was loing to the poor? They are not. auctioned. I strongly object to this system of pubHc auctioning. These black-market- en kerosene you are giving ~2 paise eers get wheat from FeI at Rs. 192 per per litre as subsidy, which is not correct. quintal aDd then they store it in their The total excise duty collected on kerosene godowns. Just before the barvest they is Rs. 309 ecores. You are co1lecting 55 sell it at Rs. 4, Rs. 4. 50 and Rs. 5 per kg. paise per litre as excise duty on kerosene and you are giving 52 paise per litre as subsidy. So, Government is Dot losing This should be stopped because neither aaything. Sllri Jan3rdbana Poojary has said the farmer is benefited nor the consumer is in this House on 17th of March that a total benefited by that. Only the black-marketeer subsidy of Rs. 5349 crores is given to the is benefited. He is selling the wheat in the poor. open market three times more than what you have procured from the farmer. The Take the case of Janata cloth You say FCI officials are working hand in glove with that you are giving Rs. 2 J -per metre as the private trade. Therefore, it is high time lubsidJ on janata cloth. But the poor for that Government curtail all these activities. whom this cloth is meant. is not getting this cloth. I do Dot blame the Government. Last year, t ~ lakh tonnes of sugar waS But the system itself is faulty. I am running imported. Here again the distribution one shop. In that I am getting the cheap system is not proper You are releasing cloth and I am distributing that. But in sugar in small quantities. That does Dot other places licences are purchased by the have any effect 'On the prices. Therefore, it big cloth shop owners and not a sinlie is bi,h time that Government consider this metre of cheap cloth aoes to the poor people. aspect also. I want to know at what price This is happeoina in Bombay. What is you are imporllOg sugar and at what price happeoinl in other places I do Dot know. you arc seHing. J think the difference in purchasina and sellina aUlar is three or rour met~ AD amount or Rs. 3. 50 per is times more. aiven as subsidy on polyoster blended cloth. You are liviD, a total of Rs. 100 crores 85 subsidy on polyester cloth which is not The capacity for fruit and veaetabJe justifiable. Such type of subsidy should not processinl is tremendous in the country. be Ii..,. Ours is a backward country, an aariculrural country and, of course, it caD be still A sum of Ils. 1600 crores is &ivea as increased. S7 million tonnes i. tbe capacity lubIWy 011 fertilisers. A total sum or lDore of the countrY w Itb reaard to fruits aDd than Ita. ~ crores is livOD as subsidy. OD veptablos. But bow much i. tbo installed 4ifrercDt i_.'or tbe beDelt ot tlac poor. capacity ror proecssinl? It is hardly four 261 D. G. (Oe".) 1986-87 CHAlTRA 27, 1908 (SAXA) D. o. (Gen.) 1986-87 262 1akh tonnes. Out of 1,000 kilograms of The Consumer Price Index should be fruits and vegetables prod uced in this revised. It was done about 30 years bact country, hardly seven to eight kilograms and only three items are taken into account. are processed. It is not even one per cent. During the last five years, committee haft' But what is the government of such an been appointed but the Government is Dot agricultural country doing? Mangoes and so able to implement their recommendations OWly other things are available in our because they have to show the price index country. Even with that one per cent very falsely. Therefore, the Government is processing we are getting a foreign exchange deliberately delaying the same. I thank you of Rs. S5 crores. The Government should very much for giving me sufficient time and have paid a little more attention to the I conclude my speech. processing. If they do a little more proces- sing of pulps, chatneys, prickles, jams and KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI (Raigarh): a1l sDch sort of things and if they export Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the them, they will earn about Rs. 2,000 crores demand for Grants under the Ministry of to Rs. 3,000 crores. This they can eam Food and Civil Supplies for the year even by processing 10 per cent of these 1986-87. products. We have launched several plans and I do not know about the nutritional projects to ameliorate the chronic aDd piti- roports. I am a doctor but I do not know able condition of the Scheduled Castes, the number of surveys that have been con- Scheduled Tribes and backward people. ducted. What is the extent of malnutrition But I am sorry to say that all these plans in our country? Because of poverty, 92 have mostly remained on the paper and not out of I ,000 chtldren die within one year of pereo lated to the ground with the result that their birth because of malnutrition. 1 have these people continue to suffer untold got a number of figures with me but I do miseries even after 37 year. of indcpendeoce. not want to take the time of the House. Because of their social and geographical Therefore, it is high time that the Govern- backwardness, they have not come up to auy ment should consider these things. Of course, appreciable level viz-a-viz that of their other ultimately everything is linked with poverty brothren. It is Dot only in the economic but at least supply them some proteinous or educational field alone that these people cbeap food. supply them such type of suffer, they are even staned of timely and vitamins. Iron is the basic need. Defi- regular supplies of essential requirements of ciency of iron causes anaemia and weakness day-to-day use and that is where the Depart- in backward countries. Hardly one or two ment of Civil Supplies comes into the rupees -will cost for 1,000 tablets. So, the picture. Government can easily give these in poor places. But I do not think the Government However. I see a bright silyer liDiDa in is seriously considering any advice from the the very dark clouds in the sense that oar medical doctors. Of course, ultimately it young and dynamic Prime Minister is takiq is a question of poverty but whatever is extraordinarily keen interest in tbe upliftment possible, Government should do that to of these people He visits them in the supply these thinas. remote and unaccessible areas, ucertains personally their problems and solves muy Considering all these, I think.. the of them on the spot. farmers and the consumers are not benefited in the matter of distribution of wbeat, rice" At prescnt I would confine myself to the kerosene and sugar, which is the major lituation prevailing in my coDStitueDCy. tbat responsibility of tbe Government. Tbey is, Raigarh in Madbya Pradesh, but it is I will not be benefited unless you curtail this tllink applicable t8 all tribal areas. 54 paise per kilolram al procurement char... I think it is Yecy surprising. There- 14l1l'i. fore. I am stronaly of tbe opinion that Whatever IOod discussion i. done here and This ia a tribal .,. with over SO per -' whatever we do, the poblic and the farmers population of scbedu1ecl tribes,_ aro win Dot be benefited. industry area-witb no rail or road aetwork 263 D. G. l Gen.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 264 [XlUMri PlUhpa D~vi] The supply of an essential input in agriculture like Super Phosphate is far from worth the name. Many areas there remain sati.sfactory. This is purchased by the Madhya completely cut oft' during the rains. Pradesh Cooperative Sangb and distributed througb Sabha Mukhyalayas. However, For tbe public d istributioD system of such bardly 4 purchase centres exist-one each in aD area, there are only 7S societies, 38 of Raigarh, Kbarisa, Kunkuri and Sarangarh, them being service cooperative societies and in the entire district, with tbe result that 37 tribal service cooperatives for distribution the societies have to incur heavy expenditure of essential items like rice, salt, kerosene, on transportation of movement of goods to oil, cloth, supr etc. through 152 distribution the remote areas. points. However, even this small number of societies is starved of adequate staff. The net r~ult of all that I have said is Generally, the present staff cannot cover that the entire public distribution system is even one-fifth of the area. 1I~ very weak and they incur losses, running into huge amounts, and thereby they are not So far as funds are concerned, the in a position to achieve the sacred objective societies are starved of funds; and whatever serving the exploited people. The reason little is available is being embezzled or mis- of behind all this is that tbe authorities con- appropriated in connivance with the un- cerned are indifferent to the problems and scrupulous busi~men. aspirations of the tribal people. The basic So, what can be said about the func- lacuna is that in planniog and allocation tioning of these societies? The less said, of funds for development and other activities the better. They are supposed to purchase like public distribution system, the Govern- from the tribals their produce at remooera- ment is keeping Raigarh, a uibal district, tive prices. But due to paucity of funds, with practicallY no rail or road facilities , and staff, they cannot purchase even one- at pas with developed and industrial districts tenth of the produce, thus exposing the like Bhopal. Gwalior, Indore, etc. tribals to the clutches of businessmen and money-lenders. The only remedy, therefore, is that all tribal districts including Raigarh, should be These societies are also required to given special treatment in aU ocation of funds disuibute essential consumer goods like and other connected facilities-not because manure, seeds, medicines etc. at reasonable j t is my constituency but beea use it is prices. store such articles well in advance for a backward area ifthabited by tribals, distribution during rains in tile areas un- it has 00 industry, no rail and rbad net- acceasable. Unfortunately they cannot do work. If the Government is reany serious it due to paucity of funds and staff. about ameliorating the miserable condition of the tribals, then, the tribal districts should Th~e are not the only problems. They be provided with more funds aDd there do n"t have adequate storage facilities. They should be more s~aff for public distribution do not have godowns of their own. Where- system. It should have adequate number of ever the godown, a re there, they are cooperative societies, with adequate staff', damaged and uncared for. The lodowD and adequate godowns. The maintenance constructed in Dongripali under BEC plan and upkeep of existing godoWDs should be collapsed in a year's time. Why? No one improved. Warehousing facilities should be knows. I took up the matter with the I'rovided at Tehsil head-quarters of eoocerned authorities, but without any Ohargbora, Dbaramjaiprh, Pathalpon. reault. I{unkuri and Baramkela. The Societies abould be permitted to realise loans throuab The construction of J 0 godowns wh sale of produce. started in the district by the State Coopera- tive Department about 5 years back, but 1be linki. facility should be such that ., are still ioc:omplete. The result is the tribal. are able to let fresh loans on clear- ..,DeJ already apent ;. blocked aDd un- illl the earlier~ones. The State GcwerDtDOot utiliaed and the cost 01 COIIItructJon it also Minor Forest Cooperative Sanah .laouJd PI up every day. purchase the produc:o from the lOCietie. or . 265 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 CHAlTilA 21, 1'908 (SAKA) D. G. (G,n.) 1986-87 266 otherwise they sboald be .Uowed to seU it SecondlY, I am of the view that it is elsewhere. For reducina the hiab traftSport . aecessary to bring a bout improvement in the expenses and ensuring timely 'su"ply of F. C. I. I do Dot agree that everything chemical manurc, more centres should be F. C. I. is doinS is wrong or all their officers opened in the District as in Jashpur Nagar, . are indulging in malpractices. Improvements PathaJgaon, Garghora and Dtlaramjaigarb. , must be brought about in F. C. I., the Tbe stocking centres of IFFCO should be Jesser they keep the margin from purchases opened at Pathalgaon, Bagicha, Dharamjai- of consumer loods, the cheaper would be garh and Kunkuri. the foodgrain supplied to the consumers. At the same time, we can 91so offer a re- I am sure the Government will kiadly munerative price to the farmer, but wben look into the problems posed by me and -we try to live a hilbel' price to tbe farmer, tackle them without further loss of time. a part of the increased price would have to be passed on to the consumer because our [TraM/ation J total subsidy which stood at Rs. 1100 crotes SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL earlier has touched Rs. 1600 crores figure (Kopargaon): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am ~and is likely to reach Rs. 3000 crores in highly araterul to you ror giving me an tbe &ear future. I would say that earlier opportunity to speak. [rise to support the when F. C. I. did not exist, the trader used Demands for Grants of the Ministry of to loot both the fanner and the con~umer, Food and Civil Supplies. I shall not take bot witb the F. C. I. coming to the scene, much of your time as I am not loinS to this loot bas stopped. In the earlier days toach all points. I would say a few words when there u~ed to be a bumper crop, the about F. C. I. Therc is a need to extend trader would purchase wheu.t from the the Public Distribution System further and rarmor at a lower price and the same wheat to strengthen it. Oar experience is that used to be .old to the consumer at fourtime F. C. I. purchases wheat from the open higher price during the lean crop. There- market and makes it available to the con- rore, I think it is a very important or- sumer at fair price; as such there is no ganisation and there is DO haem if aood question of doing away with tho Public sugestions are made and constructive Distribution System. Instead. there is a critici,m of its working is done. But it is need to further strengthen it. The F. C. I. not proper to always criticise the Public must give are-thinking to the question of UndertakiOg3 or Govemmeot Undertakings. stopping saJe of wheat through auctioD in Had all its officers been corrupt, it would the open market. Tbe businessmen earn . Dot have been possible to run an infrastruc- more in this manner. Instead of sel1ing it ture of such a big size. through auctioD, tbe wheat should be given under the National R.ural Bmp]O)'Dlent The Fair Price Shops being ruo UDder Guarantee Scheme of the Employment the Cooperative Societies are doing a very Guarantee Scheme of the Govern- aood job. But from my experience in ment of Mahacashtra or eJae it sbould Maharashtra and Gujarat, I can say that be distributed to the laboarers workins some people ace eating into the cooperative under the land reforms, because our societies, but thon it is a question of moral; stocks of foodgrains are rotting. Similarly, you will find a few of such people every- there are a number of schools where there where. There is a need for improvement in is DO provision of food for tbe children. it. This is the last point of the distribution In tribal areas, thero are Ashram-Scbools system. The Government do Dot supply where children study and work as wcll. cloth to the cooperative societies as a result poodgrains should be supplied to their of which they are forced to buy cloth from bostela. Thus we can help them. I do Dot the private traders. Attention needs to be consider it advisable to band over tile ItOCks ai'IeD to it. Me. Chairman Sir, you must of foodgrains to the traden instead of have alao- experienced such things in your selling the same to stores. It musf be owaarea. 1 do not want to elaborate this 'stopped forthwith. I was told • bout a point. But it should be ensured that the month back tbat this 'lad been .stopped. ' but faactioD properly. I do not agree to our it was not so. frieDel's suaestion that it is Dot essential to 267 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-81 APRIL 17. 1986 D. G. (O_n.) 1986-87 268 [Shri BalasaINb Yikhe Pal;l] some work In this relard. I would suggest display a stock-list as we ha ve now a large that there should be a sinlle authority stock of foodgrains. The consumer which should do export work in co-ordinated should know at what price the com- manner, modities are being sold and the list- showing the rates sbould be displayed. He Thirdly, I would like to say something should also have the knowledge of the stock about Flour-mills. Earlier certain Bour-mills that is available with the shopkeeper. This were Closed dowD. Now you are granting is a matter of economlc policy and so it is permission to some more Bour ntills to not possible to shift from it as otherwise the reopen. I suggest that if you could set up consumer will have to incur great Joss. The mOre and more .flour-mills, it would provide case is similar in respect of cloth aDd ot her relief to the consumers. Therefore , a new items. It is right to sa v that the licences of policy should be made so that flour mills those shopkeepers who indulge in wrong are established in various areas to ensure methods should be cancelled and work the release of some of the foodgrains stock should be carried Ollt by the membera of and there will be relief for the masses. the Gram Panchayats and Co-opcratives which would function in a proper way. This I would like to say a few words about would provide relief to the consumers. cheap cloth. The co-operative societies run Again, as excess funds have been invested from pillar to post and write letters for the in the Food Corporation of India, it has allotment of cheap cloth quota but do not led to a financial crisis. The Reserve Bank get it whereas a private trader manages to has mentioned in its report that our finan- get the quota just on the basis of a letter. cial condition is not improving because more Therefore, this area needs improvement. In than ne;essary funds have been bloclced in order to help co-operative societies, some this organisation due to the easy availability sort of letter of credit system should be credit facilities. It is not that our Food introduced in the banks. Banks should give Corporation itself stores tbe foodgrains or guarantee and Government should supply that it does not want to market them. Yet more cloth to the co-operati ve societies we can see that in Maharashtra, there is no from the National Textile Corporation and difference in the level of prices prevailing in give benefit to maximum number of societies., open and the controlled market. Naturally, ...... (Interruptlons).. I have spoken instead of purchasing their foodgrain require- for three minutes only and I would like ments from the fair Price shops the people to take another three minutes. I would like boy them from the open market and, there- to urge the Minister that it is essential to fore, the foodgrains of Fair Price Shops formulate sugar licensing policy as early as remain unsold. The F.C.I. should formulate possible. Once, we were foremOst amoDgst a long-term policy with regard to Export. the sugar-producing countries in the world.. Profit and loss is a part of the business But recently we have imported two lakh game. In case there is no long term policy tonnes of sugar. So instead of euning with regard to export, then it will be subject foreign exchange, we are spending our to criticism as it is being done in respect of valuable foreign exchange on it. Therefore, storage. However, I do Dot wish to go into some early steps should be taken in this the details. regard. The consumption of sugar bas greatly increased during the last five or six I have DO hesitation to say that the Jears. In future, the annual consumption Food Corporation proved beneficial to has of lugar might increase to 90 lakh tonD~. the country and, therefore, a long term The.refore, some concrete steps must be taken export policy should formulated. The be in this regard. This is because the Price country will earn foreign exchange tbereby. given to the flU'DlCtS has not been i~creaaed I would like to say something reaardiDa for the last three or four yean. ApiD, 80 the export of agricultural products. Many per cent of sugarcane yield is supplied to type of agricultural products can be ~ed the mpr.. mills for tbe production of lUlU' and a new authority has been estabb.hed in Mabarasbtra, whereas in N(\rtbern India for the purpose and the F.e.l. is also doma . this percentile merely varies from 25 to 45. 269 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAXA) D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 270 This disparity should be removed. We [English] must assure the farmers that they would get their due price in time. In this connection , It is an instrument for rural develop- my suggestion is that you should seek ment- information througb co-operatives. jf you think it to be proper regarding the Govern- [Translation J ment owned and privately managed mills and examine the reasons underlying tbe in- -and because the farmers themselves equalities between them. You have to become tbe owners of the sugar mills. The decide how to ensure remunerative price to farme... is not contented with this much only tbe farmers regardless of the minimum and considering himself a sort of indus- sugarcane price. You have to con'\ider a trialist has set up several by-product units on system that would provide greater benefit to co-operative basis. the farmers. They should get remunerative prices for their yield. Although, sugar mills I, therefore, would reiterate that a better h~ve been set up in the entire country, yet policy should be formulated in this respect it is only in Maharasbtra and Gujarat, that and more funds should be invested for the the mills are totally in the co-operative expansion of the co-operatives so that Sector. My suggestion would be, that by ultimately all Government owned mills are following the ex ample of thes~ two states, taken over by the co-operative societies. You all sugar-mills in the p~blic sector through- should examine the functioning of these out the country, should be brought under sugar mills and foHow tbe example set by them the management of the co-operatives and the farmers residing in those areas should also I would like to point out something regarding the Sugar Development Fund. be the shareholders so that they are able to make more profit which in turn, will en- Altbough I have little information regarding courage them to increase their produce. the amount in this Fund and I do not under- stand why the Government should conceal We receive complaints regarding the thh information, yet I would like that a millowners almost daily and a Jot of things s)stem should be evolved as early as possi- are said against them on which I am not ble, for the proper distribution of Govern- inclined to elaborate, but I want to em- ment funds and arrangements should be phasize that we would be successful in our made for the nlodernization and impon purpose only when we treat our farmers and application of Jatest technology, which properly and offer them remunerative prices alone would ensure greater productivity and only then we can expect some increase in better level of performance, efficiency etc. sugar output. Mabarashtra contributes 42 Again, I think there should be opportunities per ccnt of the nation's total production of for diversification of the sick sugar mills so sugar. This is beca use we takc suaarcane that they could improve their capacities and from the fields itself and we do not tell the get some relief. farmers to deposit their produce at the mill- gales. Wc give them a good price as well, So far as the agro-based industries are even to the extent of 25 to 30 rupees per concerned, I think all sugar mills should quin tal. That is why the rarmcrs in Gujarat have a unifonn system. 'Single-window" or and Maharashtra earn greater profit in 'one-wi ndow' concept could be adopted. At comparison to other areas and we arc proud present the expon of sugar is bandled by to assert that the cooperative movement has the State Trading Corporation~ impon is changed into a movement (or rural develop- bandIed by some other ag' Dey. sugarcane ment. Several Medical ColJegcs. Enlin~ring price is fixed by some Ministry and PtJce of Colleges, Polytechnics and 1.I.Ts and other sUlar is fixed by the other. In this manner, one ~ educational institutions havo been set up in has to run to five or six places to get one" s these areas. The people of Mabarashtra work done. Therefore, I would demand, as and Gujarat are keenly intcroated in co- our Prime Minister also wants that tbe 'one- Operative movemcmt and want to have more window" concept should be enforced in sugar and more mill. in Maharashtra re,ioa be- factories so that everyone ,ets some relief cause : and tbe pace of work accelerates. Oney then 271 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 '" D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 212 [Shri Balasaheb Vickhe Pat/I] IEngUsh] would we be able to ensure development at a faster pace. "The growth rate in sUlar production durill8 19SC-!971 at 3.1 per cent was I had mentioned the co-operatives lower compared with 3.3 per cent during because more tban 57 or 60 per cent of sup.r 1930-51 because during the same span is produced in the co-operative sector. I the growth rate of yield declined from would like to reiterate and request the 1.2 per cent to C.9 per cent. During the Minister that he should kindly set up a l3-year period 1970·84, again, the study group in order to find out the reason production growth rate declined further behind the huge disparity between the mills to 2.6 per cent from j.l per cent during in Gujarat and Maharashtra on one side and 19~O-71, because of the drop in the area other regions of the country on the other. growth rate from 2.2 per cent to 1.5 Why should the sugar mills in Maharashtra per cent, although the grovdh rate of aDd Gujarat attract the farmers so much yield improved marginally from and wby should there be diversification 0.9 per cent to 1. t per cent" towards producing by-products here whereas there is no dlversifL::atioD in otber areas? ITratUlat Ion] Why should the people be so keenly interested in co-operative movement and why should Therefore, when we say that our Income rural development proceed at a rapid pace has increased and everything is going on here than elsewhere, and finally, why should smoothly, this is entirely owing to sugar we believe ~o much in social commitment? industry. I would, therefore, respect the hon. The answer to all the queries is that we have Minister that he should review the licensing to elist in society and in order to live in policy at the earliest and should formulate society we must create certain bonds, and for a Ions-term policy so that we do not suffer creating such human relationships we must losses. The farmer also becomes helpless and pay attention to the needs of society, cOUDtry, the consumer too bas to pay more which consumers, farmers, industrtes as a whole, results in severe criticism~ of the Govern- and these are the feelings with which the mente Therefore, you should go in for a farmers produci Dg sugarcane and eOPled JODI term policy which may be beneficial to in prod uction or sugar through co-operative the country, the farmer aDd the cODsumer sugar mills are imbued. In tbe co-operative as well. system, it is not necessary that the SOD or an industrialist may become an industrialist With these words, I support the De. and then his son may also become an indus- mands Cor Grants or the Ministry. triaJist. A totaUy il)jterate farmer is runDiq sugar mill and its by·product industries. Sir, SHRl MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN I will conclude within a minute. Recently (Etah): Mr. Chairman, Sir (Interruptions) Maharashtra sugar industry has set up Deccan Sugar Institute at Pune. That is only SHItI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali): for new technolo,y, research and develop- Please say a word 10 praise. ment. The Government has not giVCD a single paisa to it. Therefore, I would urae the SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: bon. Minister that as it is a voluntary Sbri Daga, 1 will not be able to do that. I organization and bas been set up by the am little bel pless because of the side I am contributions made by tbe farmor., the Government should give assistance to it sittinS. keepin, in mind the character of the institu- SHR' BALASAHEB VUC.HE PATIL: tion. The National Engineering Instituto has Kindly tell the reason why you will not be liven rise to healthy competition which has able to say a word of praise. resulted in briogin, dOtvD the prices and the industrY 8S well as have beca larmen SHill MOHO. MAHFOOZ AU KHAN: benefited. The reason il the very tbiDp you have stated, Lastly I would submit that after doin, the tbiDp f dOW propoee to aay and some some research, somebody baa writteo- other boo. Members have said. 273 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-87 CHAIT.IA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D_ G. (GeR.) 1986.. 87 274 Mr. Chairman, Sir, several hone Mem- I have seen in my own constituency that bers have spoken much on the Demands of jf the S. D . M. is given Rs.2,OOO, you can the Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies. I easIly get licence: to open fair price shop. wilJ speak about some complaints. What is They do not bother that minorities or the particular reason for selling the food- Scheduled Ca ,te people are also there to be grains in the open market by the farmer. I taken care of. One who be ibes them Jets would like to give an example which can be the licence for the shop. seen present ly. Rabi crop has been harves- ted and the threshers are working. The The co-operative socities have also failed living of the farmer depends upon his pro- today. 1 here is so much cocruption in them duce. With it he buys cloth, provides for that the Jea st said the better education of his children and arranges for their marriages etc. But so far The fair price shop people are dishonest Fe} has not opened centres. What in the matter of weighing also. They resort to should the poor fellow then do? Where this ma;practice because according to them should he take his produce? He has no the bags of sugar and wheat they get are alternalive than to sell his produce in the underweighed. Ration shop owners express market. In the market, touts and banl..1s their helplessness; they say that the Govern- are silting and they will buy the foodgrains ment does not supply them wheat and sugar at the rates they want. As he has to make ID correct weight. both ends meet somehow, he sells his stock of foodgrains. You go and see in the villages. You \viIl find that the kerosene oil depots are at SecontiJy. the mode of payment by tht,; a distar.ce cf 4 to 5 miles with the result rei for the foodgrains it purchases is nOt tbat no ope likes to go that far. The corr~(. t. It is confusing bccluse the payment poor people say t~lat they cannot go so far is made through banks. The bank people just to have 2 or 3 litres of kerosene oil. I, say that they have not received aBotment so therefore, request that in villages kerosene far; the other time they will say that they oil shops should be opened near the homes have not received the order. Even if they get of t he people. the cheque, they bave to get it attested that they are the persons concerned. Tbe biggest We have also seen tbat if someone goes problem th>! farmer has to face is this one. to fetch ration on 30th or 31st of the month, Therefl)f\!. the pro.::edure should be simpli- he does not get it. The shopkeeper says fied. Th is mode of payment should be th.lt it is already 30th of the month and the changed at the earliest. Another big problem \vheat. rice etc, have been sold. is tha t people think that FeI is a business concern. It has also been obs;!rved that at many Has Fel no capacity to construct its places bogus ration cards are issued. If at own godowns. The Private Sector is always a certain place, the population is 2000, tbe on the look out for somehow gettmg the number of c~Hds issued reaches 2,300 or permission to construct godowns.. These 1,400 which means that 300 to 400 cards people have constructed small godowns in are totally bogus. This aspect too should every district. They iust put a black tarpaulin be looked ioto by you. I am saying this on there which . .is suffi:ieot jJst for covering the basis of my experience. It is very the half of the stock, tbe remaining half necessary to bring about improvement in remains rotting in the rains. Later on. the the system. same foodgrain is sold at ration shops. You Although co-operative societies are must improve the situation. allotted shops but experience shows that There are no two opinions about it that these socictie" hlve tot ally failed. The pri- the Government tries to give all the facilities vate shopkeepers at le3st make some but it also provides means to benefit the commodiue5 available but co-operative official. The officials prepare sucb schemes societies disappoint us in this respect. Tb~ u result in lot of financial beDefit to them. aobblo up everything. 275 D. G. (G~".) 1986..87 APRIL 17, 1986 D. G. (Ga.) 1986-87 276 [Slui Molul. MtJh/ooz Ali Khtm] .considered while making allotment of shops. If Inembers of some particular caste are in Regarding adulteration, I has read in majority in some town and city, their caae the newspaper that in the Kutch district, should be considered whi Ie making allot- palm olin oil was purchased from a Fair ment of shops in that place. Price Shop. The oil was adulterated wltich resulted in the death of some children. Corruption and bribe should be put an This has not been looked into. Nobody end to. The officers, D.S.O., inspectors etc. checks it; who is going to check it ? The indulge in corruption. It is due to that that Inspector and the D.S.O. are paid a fixed this evil is loing on. It is correct that tbe monthly amount. They need not undertake Government make provision to curb this any inspection. No such question arises. menace but these provisions are not being Not only this .•• implemented properly. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: I would like to submit that the allotment You complain of adulteration and high of shops should be made properly and the price. But even then you have a \ ery good Government should pay attention towards health. Your health and your voice show eradicating corruption which is going on. that there is no adulteration in any item. They should go into the matter to find out the reason why the pubJic is not getting SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI items of their need and why they are Dot KHAN: I am afraid, lest I should be getting kerosene oil easily? You can go to affected by an evil eye, Daga ji, I am the villages to see the thiDg~ yourself The thankful to you for your affection towards urban people can utilize electricity but the me. You are elder to me. I have no objec- village people have no alternative but to tion to it. burn kerosene 0i19 and even th.tt is not available to them. Also, they do not Similarly.. take cemen t. When you get sugar. The Minister in the Department bring anything under control, It vanishes of Civil Supplies should give his recom .. from the market. Remove coo trol and that mendation in which sugarcane-growing area commodity is availabJe in the market. a co-operative sugar-mill should be set UP. When cement is brought under control, it It all depends on your recommendation. In is not available in the market. Regarding this way, sugar can be made easi Iy levy and non.levy ..• available. AN HON. MEMBER Your party bas also disappeared. In the end .. I would like to request that the hOD. Minister may consider my sunes.. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI tions. KHAN: At that time, I was in the Conp-ess. I joined Lok Dal later OD. {English] IS 31 tan. MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER The [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in 1M Chair] Minister will intervene. [E",um] At that time I wa' in the Congress. Later on 1 jOined this Party. At that tIme MR. DEPUTY-SPBAKER : He is only ] was in the Congress and throughout that intervening. You can all speak later on. time I was in the Conlras. SHRl MOOL CHAND DAGA : Is {Tranl/atioll] this intervenin& ? 11ae .procedure of aUotmcDt of shops is not proper Shops arc Dot aJJott~ to tho MR. DBPUTY·SPEAKER : Without members belon,in. to tbe Scbedu led Castel Dagaji how can we complete tbe d.sc .... 'toa? ~ the minorities. They 'bo\11d also be Don't worry. 211 D. G. (Gen.) 1980.$7 CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SArA.) D. G. (Om.) 1986-81 278 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE but also it has to be made available through MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND the fair price shops at the rationale price MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and also at the market at reasonable price. MINISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL AJong with that, we have to consider the SUPPLIES (SHRI A.K. PANJA): Dagaji people who need the special attention, that will be answered by my senior colleague. is, the tribals. The people who are below the poverty level and working under various schemes like Food for Work Programme, Sir, I am thankful to you for allowing need special attention. There are other me to intervene at this stage. I am also category of .people who need special atten- t ilJnkful t.) the hone Members for up till tiOD, tl:at is, the pregnant mothers, the now 22 hon. Members spoke on various children and the nursing moth~. Alool subjects. I am thankful to tbem for high- with that, we have other special thrust lighting various functionings of the Food from the height of ,,9,000 ft. 0( mount Ketu and Civil Supplies Department, particularly upto the: zero level over long ranges of moun- of the Food Corporation of India. While tain slopes with hilly areas of different types. anS'J.Cllng que~llons on tbe Door of this with a long desert area, panicularly Rajasthan Hous.e, I also stated that there are various and GUjarat, tben down to the 7000 kilo- aspects which need special attention of the metre sea-shore-that is our Mother India. G o vern rrlent and the Members were quite Now, there we have special duty to perform. right in certain points of criticism. I will Our beloved Indira Ji. with her visioD. rightly refer to tbose and the steps that while presiding over the National Develop. have been taken by t~e Government for the ment Council in April, 1984 described the purpose of enabling Food and Civil Supplies entire 7th Plan-at that time only an Departn.ent do at the desired level. Approach Paper - in three words, rood, work and productivity. That was the first Before I deal with the various points emphasis of the entire 7th Plan. Therefore. raised, let us see the problem from a differ- we are fully aware of the special duty cut ent angle. So far as our country is upon the Government so far as food for tho concerned, there are a little over 5,70,000 people is concerned. Food, work and pro- ductivity have to be given. The hone populated viHages. Tbose are located in Members have rightly criticised and ques- 5056 administrative blocks situated in 356 tioned sometimes whether tbo people arc districts. There are about 69 crores of people in our country, as per the Census of getting tbat. Our Prime Minister has. 198J. Now, for these people of our country, therefore, emphasised on two more words; the Food and Civil Supplies Department after food. work and productivity two more words speed and efficiency are also tbere have specific duties to perform. The first tbing is, as you know, aftC!" production is now. made, the grains have to be procured. After procurement is done at the desired level, With this general background.. let us both from the point of view of nutritional examine one by one what are the functioDS value and other quality as to what is the being performed by the Food and Civil percentage contont of moisture and all other SuppJies Department; whether we are things, they get tbe first movement upto the making the evaluation takin. into consi- storage. Then, from storage, it is to cater deration the entire duties and responsi- for all over India. We have at present in bilities, whether we are taking into con- our country, about 3,25,000 Fair Price sideration the infrastructure available, Sbops for tho purpose of distribution or at whether attempts are being made for better least for makin. it available either thtoUgh food for the people, better dlstributiOD of the fair price shops or making it available the food for the people, or whether we arc in such a quanticy that even though they going back. Is it improvinl only accordioa go to the open maket, they don~t fall prey to the statistics or there is aD actual in the hands of tbe middle men, as far as improvement by which people are fcelina POssible. Therefore, there is need for not that they are going to act some DOUli.. only alvina food ewry day hom momiol ment. there is a project for this. schewt for tlU &.be eVCDiJw meal aDCI W__ VIr rcquJred, this and a perspectiw pJamriD,. 279 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-81 APRIL 11, 1986 D. G. (Gen.) 1986-81 280 [Shri A .K. PanJa] much of procurement. There are a few Certain data are required to be stated complaints of distress sale received but those for the purpose of explaining the entire were also found to be Dot correct. The matter. The total production of foodgrains procurement machinery started functioninl reached a record level of 152.37 minion on first of Vaisakbi in the riaht manner and tonnes in 1983-84. The total production in it will go on for about eight weeks continuo- tho year 1984-8S is estimated around 146 usly. I will request the hon. members million tonnes. The total production of through you to consider the onerous burden foodgrains in 1985-86 is expected to be at and the amount of foodgrains to be moved last year's level. In spite of the slight fall from one place to another. And certainly I in the production, tbe ayailability of food- will request the hone Senior and able arains has increased from lY83-8~ becau~e members and in particular, my respected of consistently good crop and because of friend Shri Reddy to see the manner in improvement in the management pattern of which they are moving, whi Ie comparing the distributing infrastructlJre, the precure- with other States and with tre nlechanism ment infrastructure, the storage infrastruc- available to tbem. ture and the distribution. From the problems of scarcity India I am not standing here to supPort the IS. now tackling the problems of ' plenty. Rs. 125 crore loss each year by FCI. My Problems of scarcity bad been dealt with by senior colleague and mysel f almost every a trial and error method. We had famines day are baving one meeting or the other and we had starvation deaths. But today, firstly to isolate the areas by which these stand 109 here I can say that in the whole of thinp are happening. What are the areas, India, starvation death due to famiDe is what are the signals and factors causing absolutely ruled out. these losses? After isolation of the causes of losses, we are taking steps one Of course, we have people liviDg below by one to plug the loopholes in such a the poverty )ine and there are problems manner that the losses could be reduced as concerning calorific intake and the nutri- far as possib1e and it is giving results. I will tional quality of food to be given and to be also refer to the data to show bow the distributed. There also I do not want to losses have been brought down. shirk our responsibility by laying that it is So far as giving price support is concer- the primary duty of the States. Of course, ned, it bas been critjcised sometimes rightly it is the primary duty of the States. but the and sometimes by giving wrong figures, that moral duty remains with us. And almost although we are giving Rs. 5 increase to e\lery second day we are issuing instr 'Jctions the farmers, the issue price is being incre- to States wherever we find any lacunae. My ased more. I will certainly give some figures senior co1Jeague and myself are drawing which win show that it is not so in aU the even the personal attention of the Chief years. taking the history of tbe farmers who Ministers as also tbe Heads of Union arc given price support and the increase in Territories by writing specific letters to them issue price. Here, certain data are required. to augment the rair price shoPi. to know The procurement of the foodgrains has set how much deficiency exists in respect of a a new record so far as 1981-85 is concerned. particular State, to know their difficulties, It is 20.23 m,Uion tonnes. This is signifi- to find out why certain sugar' factories are caat)J hi,ber than tbe previous record of not cunning properly, to give suggestions as 17.70 million tonness in 1983-84. to bow to improve the s ugar-cane prod ucina areas, to find out about the outstanding Rice procurement has set in a new record of amounts to be paid to the suaac-cane 9.12 million tODllCS. Wheat procurement was growers and so on. These are all primarily 10.14 mBlioD tOODei. This bas become possible the responsibilities of the State Govern- bccaase \)( the effective price support. We ments. arc tllinkiDa about two (actors. One;s that there should DOt be aDY distress sale and Here are certain laure. which I would teCOod thin. is tbat we mUit procure. If certainly live. It WOUld be clear from the our IUPPOrt price is Dot .ood, then we figures that the criticism that thou.b R.s S c;oald DOt have .DCCCeded in maJcfn. 10 are beiDl liVCD to the lannen, much ~ 28t D. G. (G~n.) 1986-87 CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAXA) D. G. (G~n.) 1986-87 282 is taken by PCI, is not correct. Having the the poor and the weak, because in the urban marketing year of wheat as April-Marcb, area 9 there are peopJe who will shout, I would give you the procurement prices people who read the newspapers and who (per quintal figure) from 1970-80. In 1979.80 can communicate. In respect of villages the procurement price was Rs. lIS/-where as which number more than 5,72.000, who is in the Public Distribution System (PDS) it there to take up their cause? It is for the was RI. 130/-. In 1980·81 the procurement hon. Members here, who have been elected price was increased to Rs. 117/- i. e. 5 orne- by the people. viz. all of us, to think of the tbing more was given to the villagers. They have nobody to shout for farmers. But the issue price remained the them. Therefore, it has to be balanced, same at Rs. 130/-. In 1981-82 the procure- and a balance, j e. a g('lden mean h~s to be ment price was increased to Rs. 130 and the struck. And that is what bas been done. issue price was Rs. 1451. Tn 1982.83, procurement price was increased (to Rs. 142 Therefore, I am sure the hon. Members and the issue pri ce was increased from would appreciate tbe reasons for increasing Rs. 145/-to Rs. J 60/-. In 1983-84, the the procurement price by Rs. 5/-. The procurement price was Rs. J S I; the issue overall development pattern and the entire price remained at Rs. 172. In 1984.85, the tbrust of the 7th Plan is to make India procurement price was Rs. J 52, and the great in all respects. This has to be ensured issue price was Rs. 172. A constant figure by the efforts of all of us. bas been maintained. J n 1985.86 the procurement price was Rs. 157. StiIl, the The next point which I want to empha- issue price then remained at Rs. 172/-. Of size is about stocks ... coune, from 1st April 1986 the ~rOCUTement price increased to Rs. 162, and the issue SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam.. price became Rs. 190/.. from I. 2. IS'86. konda) : KindJy tell us about paddy. You have given figures only about wheat. If we make calculations for the last three years in respect of ,he procurement SHRI A. K. PANJA: I win; I told price and tbe issue price, the issue pr ice wheat as an example. Certainly, paddy and would come to Rs. 193/-; but we did not other things will come. increase it to Rs. 193/-, but maybe to Rs. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE 190/.. because the shortfaHs had to be AND FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES covered. (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER): I will Secondly I the farmer should not only be take care ~f it. given a good procurement price but also SHRI A. K. PANJA: Rice is grown other inputs for his agriculture. It is from in West .BengaJ also. I am also a rice eater. t.ut of the total amoun twit h the States. and with Government of India that we have to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Even get the money which is necessary for though he uses rice; he leaves it to Mr. increasing the aiCicultural produce and Shiv Shanker. providing the inputs desired, namely fertilizers, water supply and irrigation. SHRI A. K. PANJA : Both of us. have These are an to be taken into consideratioD. a bias for rice. Therefore. this has been done for the SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER (Banga- purpose of escalating tbe development pro- grammes, and the overall benefit which is alore South) : An of a sudden there is an (lnt~rruptiD1fS) given under the Plan programmes. Other- increase of Rs. 18/-••. wise, the alternative is not to increase the SHRI A. K. PANJA: For two reasons: price, or some issue but to stop some plan (a) we wanted to give Rs. "I-more to the project or the other. 1 am sure farmer, and (b) if you calculate for aU the the hone Members would Dot approve three vears, the increase wh icb took place in of that, the procurement price, and the issue price, It bas beeo seen that whenever there it the issue price would come to Rs. 193/-; but CODStraint or mODey, the projects which we have made it Rs. 190/-. Unless we mop up ave bean stopped arc aU those meaDt for the losses sustained, we may have to take ~83 D.G. (Gsft.) 1986-81 APRIL 17, 19" b.G. «(J.".) J986.n 2*4 [Slvi ..4. K. PQlfja] [Translatlo,,] this money from somewhere else. Do you SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : Tho want me to take this from tbe desert Government lives an increase of Rs. , per development programmes or tho island quiDtal to tbe farmer but it earns Rs. 18 areas development programmes? against the lame. The hOD. Minister may kind1y enlinpten us a bout it. Do you want me to take j t from the Hill Area Development Programme? No. [Eng/ish] Do you want me to take it from tbe Tribal SHRI A.K. PANJA: I have Mlready Area Development PrC'gramme? No. Do you explained the manner in \\'hich it bas becD want me to take It fi on} the SC/ST Develop- done. ment Programme? No. Do you want me to take it from the Poverty. AlJeviation SHRI C. Jr\NGA REDDY: You may Programme? No. From wl:Fre to take it? ba\'c explained but we are not satisfied. Wo have to increase tax and take it from the rich reop'~. wh;c"'~ u~der th~ law C'f MR. DFPUTY-SPPAKER: Now. you the land, bas to come according to the have li:;tened to (he bOD. Mmhtcr. You can procedure estcblished. Suddenly, it cannot arise a1l the points \\ben you speak. be changed. So, it is bemg taken from t( e rich peop)~ by taxation, direct, sometimes SHRI A.K. PANJA: When you come straghtway. As \\e have heard the Finnace over to this side, you wdl certaJnJy appre- Minister, the development process canDot ciate it. So far as public di~tf1butlon stocks be stopped. 1 will request and appeal to the are concerned, we are fortunate. The stocks hOD. members to think of this that money have r~acbed a big figUle of 28.65 nllJlion has to be found out. It has to be otherwise tonnes as OD Jst JuJy J985 compared to printed in the Nasik Press. We can produce 22.45 miJJioD tonnes as on ht July 1984. We monoy like this. But, I ask, what will are grateful to the fdemers, the people work- bappen? We can hoodwink the people by ing in the fiekJs, and tbe workers. These arc sayin. that tax bas been increased ; we have figuref-l in eXCe5S of tbe desired Jevel, that is, not inereased the price. But when a poor after keeping J 0 million tonnes of buffer man in a village goes 9titb RI. 10 and finds stOCk. We should have a buffer stock of its value as Rs. 5, be will fee1 the punch. 10 million lODnes and 11.4 mdlioa tonnes operational stock as OD 1~t July. So, alter There w:1I be turbulent inflation. Do you 11.4 million tonnes of operational atock abat waut us 10 do that ? is required day-lo-day for mainlenance ot public distribution 'Y51ent, and 10 million SHRI P. SH1V SHANKER = A basket tonnes buffer stock We have lot excess and of currency with packets full of chocolates. this excess we are utilizing for the people who need it most. The required wheat stock SHRI A K. PANJA ; My senior coUea- is J3.4 milhon (onnes as on Jlt July. Com- aue point cuts. a basket full of currency paratively I am giviDa the stock laurel. As with Pockets futl of chocolates. Therefore, on 1st' July 1984 Jt was 17.8 million tonnes ; kindly con~jder (his either We go for Nasik as on 1st Ju\_y, 1985. it was 20.7 million printin& press or we ded uct it from some- tonnes; tbe CC'Quirrd stock of rice is 8 where. DOc you mean to say tha.t w\! have million tonnes ; as on 1st July 1984, it was a very Ireat pJeasure in iOCrC1Jing the prices 4.6 million 'onnes and OD 1st Jllly, 1985, it whCD tbe poor people have to pay? was 7.7 million lonnes; the required stoct includes tbe buffer stock of J million toaDa Mil. DEPUTY SPEAKBR : Their goio. required for the purpose, accordinl to abe to tao Nasfk means you are takinl it away scaodard pattern laid down by the Hip from aU projec.~. Po~ered Committee so tbat India may not SHill V.S. KRISHNA IYER : Does this faCe diflicuJcy which sbe bad to face in ioctease cbrrespond to ,be purchhiDI earHer years. The increase in tbe distrIbution capacio* or the people ? bas kd ua to take certain measures. ..ca .... a. I said, tbe probletD of pleDt, 001II. AD- SilRI A.K. PANJA : TIle hoo. member Whe. lb•• ;. a 1006 prOCUMlDlDt. we __ trill be asoluColy riIbt. to have proper ItOCk ; aDd DOt Oldy proper 285 D.G. (Gm.) 1986-87 CRAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) D.G. (G~II.) 1986.81 28& stock but also storaBe in such a manner that As a reFutt of these measures, the offtake we can have distribution on a just pattern. of foodgrains from the public distribution That is wby" we have liberalised allocation system bas increased from 13,,33 million of roodgraiDs to tbe State Governments and toDDeSS in lQ84 to IS.5 million tannes in I'the card holders are allowad to draw their 1985" rations in respect of wheat without any These were the main points which I limit. Although we bave started through wanted to highlight.. But there are certain central governmental measures, to communi- other points which were raised by bOD. cate to the people as far as possible about Members. it. The State Governments also have to do their part of the duty. The bon. Members ODe of the senior hoo. Members, 8hri C. can certainly heJp us to take the message to Madhav Reddi, raised the point tbat the tbe people, at least in their own constituen- losses of PCI in the last five years were to cies, that the card holders can go to the the tune of Rs. 600 crores. and that there ration shops and demand. as much wheat as bas been increase in tbe loss in ~torage of they require. If there is any complaint, f oodgrains I do not want to repeat. but we please do communicate to us. General are taking reduction of losses as the highest complaints creat diffic\Jlties. But jf we get priority. It is painful to find that in a specific complaints. we are here to assure country like Qurs food grains are wasted or you that these complaints will be quickly lost when 27 crores of the people out of 69 redressed, wherever they may be. crores are below the poverty line. Therefore, this has been given the bighest priority and 15.00 m. certain steps have already been taken in this r~gard. You win see that becau~e of steps as flour mills So far roller are concerned, taken the percentage of Joss has come down they were permitted to grind upto 125 per fro'll 2 37 (~ in 1982-83 to 2.11 per cent in ceot of their capacity wbich was later 1983-84 and to 1.94% iD 1984-8S. The tota) per to increased to t SO cent in order value of the loss is: 1982-83, Ra. 143.66 increase availability of wheat products in the crores; 1983-84, Rs. 140.70 crores and country. 1984-85, Rs. 122.76 crores. or course for tbat if we blame all, we win Dot do justice. On November 1'. 1985, the birthday of Ont of So many workers. so many employees our dear Prime Minister. late Sbrimati Indira and so many officers, there must be some Gandhi, three new welfare schemes for very good people working there with eff'i- distribution of foodgrains for tbe weaker cicncv Bnd because of 10DlC bad people sections of aociety were announced by our SO~bere, certainly we are suffering losses. Prime Minister so that tbe toodgraina reach We 8re taking advantage of the lepl system the people who need it most. First is tbe prevailing as well as possible and we are for distribution of at ICheme 'oodarains taking steps as best as possible, but along specially subsidised rate in tribal areas. with that I will request Mr. Reddy to U this wbeat is being supplied odei' scheme, consider this also. In 1982.83, the quantity to CODSUmeta in tribal areas at Rs. 1.50 per bandIed by purchase and sales (rom one end kl. and common rice at Rs. 1.85 per kg. to another end is 31.28 million toma. cbeme 57 million people. TM covers valued at Rs. S,968 crores. K.itldly compare the loss. I am not tryiog to support it. We The secoDd ICheme is expansion of are finding out what should be the minimum ooverqe of ·NREP &Del RLEGP programmes loss, tbc~as()nable loss in carrying. Suppose by .MDI acldftJoaal foodaraiDs free to State we "ant to carry a handful of ,raiDs, then O...,.menta for creat'. addltion.llainful bow much reasonably it will faU down-OM employment in rural areas and creation of or two or five. So, we are tryinl to ftnd out durable ..... ror Itrealtbeoina of rural what ~hould actually be tbe natural lOIS ia'..... ructure. caused from the action point of". Prom Puujab, where it is ,fOwn. it is te keD b7 The third it. additional sUJ_\port has been trucks to tbe nearest depot. then by the provided to the IUpptemeDtary nutrition pro- railway, sometimes in open waaons. and 1'Un" for JOana cblldren, Ptepant WOrDeD sometimes co~, loiaa and crossma Oftr. .ad ...... mothers, leedina otber parts of die co.." ... 287 D.G. (G~".) 1986-87 APRIL 17, 1986 D.G. (G~n.) 1986-87 288 [Shri A.K. Panja] SRRI A.K. PANJA; Sir, ~hat I am tbere is shortage. where so much of rice or saying is this, We cannot sbut our eyes to wheat is not grown. Therefore, we have to realities. We bave to be pragmatic. Certain find out what should be the extent of loss things are inherent in l}le system itself. Can any housewife in the whole of India stand which is reasonable. In 1983-84 ... (lnt~rrup up and say not single grain bas been tiollS). that a lost in the hou'IchoJd ? But a lood housewife SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADAV : The loss can come and say tbat she has reduced the is Rs 120 crores per year, meaning thereby loss in such a manner that the intake bas Rs. 10 crore~ per month. meaning thereby increased and food has been preserved. That Rs. 33 lakhs per day. What account havo is bow we ~re working on it But immediate JOu given of this? ... (Interruptions). steps will ~avl! to be taken so far as storage loss is concerned We have taken certain SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: If you steps. The fir.,t one is purchase within calculate it further J it will be mOre than speclfkations. Certain representations are Rs. one lakh per hour. received from certain States for accepting SHRI RAM SINGH YA,DAV: Now~ wheat and grains with more than 18 per cent Rs. 33 lakbs per day are the losses that you moisture content. We cannot take that are accounting for What 5te-pS hlve you because the wheat doe§ Dot remain good taken to check it? It should be the account ~hen it is kept in storage. from your side. SHRI RAJ MANGAL PANDE SHRI A.K. PANJA: I am sorry, pro- (DEORIA) : I want a clarification. He said, bably I could not explain myself to the ho'l. OUt of 100, 2 rupees h JO!)t. Out of every Member. Wha t I was tell i ng was the 100 rupees, If a servant steals 2 rupees per responsibility that has been cast and in dayIt would you like to keep such a servant ? carrying out this responsiblhty-I am not I don't think anybody would keep him. suggesting tbat this Joss is ju~tified what should be the reaion~ble lo's. W~ are work- SHRI A K. PANJA: I am "ery sorry ; ing on it. I am not saying that we have I never said so; I do not know from where dono so but I am gi ving a comparative tbe hon. Member got it. (Interrupt/oM). figure. There are so many people workiDl. If I jUmp up and say that everybody work- MR. dEPUTY·SPEAKER The ing in the Food Department. from the poor Minister said, housewife. Not h~usebold worker and the clerk up to the top offIcer, servant. is corrupt, that will be an injustice to them SHRI A.K PANJA: To reduce this JOS5 because tbey are all people who are working. certain step) ~ave been raken although not That is why I say tbat this is tho volume aJl very ~atlsfactory. Purchase within the which ba1 been carried. In 1983-84. 31.98 specification is one of the conditions which milUon tonne! were carried by purchase and we are emphasising. Second thing in this. sales, valued at Rs. 6,469 The loss croces. reduction in the quantity filled. It transpires suffered in that year was Rs. 140 crore9. I tbat a bag contains 9S k g and if mucb am Dot suggesti g that it is justified but I more is being put inside the bal it leads to am sbowing it complratively. In 198'-85. bulging of the baas and tearing of tbe 29.51 million tonnes bas been carried by baas and the consequential loss. So, this purcba.se and sales and tbe total value step has improved the pos !tiOD and .topped involved is Rs. 6.128 croces. Thc lo~ sufrer- tbe lOIS to a considerable extent. We are ed in that year is Rs. 12279 crores. Our keepiOlIt at 9S k.g.-it should not contain senior ofricers and experts are trying to fiod more than 95 k.S. Also we insist on 100 out wbat 5bould be the reasonable loss by pet cent wei,hment of tbe content of the the transit aystem. and the storage system bags aDd iostalation of weiah bridaes at the aDd after tbat we will certain1y try to come depot, baving capaCity of 5,000 tODDel or to this House and lay ... (lnltrruptloru). more. We are also reaortiDl to min.misiD. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Instead of ute of open waaoos. Tbia i. also one of tho ftnctinJ out what is the reasonable lou. wo factors. We are requestiDI tho Railways sbould see how to rectify that lou. I think to i live UI as much 01 ccw.ed ",00. AI dIat .. more iaIPorfaat. pouJ" but IOmedmoI dudq daiI porJod or 289 D.G. (0,,,.) 1986-81 CHAITRA 27, t908 (SAKA) D.G. (Om.) 1986-87 290 8 week! or 2 months the demand is 10 much notice and we have taken up with the State that tbe Railways themselves could not cope Government concerned. For every 2000 with it. But we are minimising the use or popul'ltion there must be ODe fair price open wagons. It was minimised from 13.7 shop. per cent in 1982-83 to 1.3 per cent in 1984.85. Then certain administrative measures MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Probably if were taken like tightening security, intensify. you calculate on the basis of cardbolders it iog surprise checks and quality control. The is better. For example. 500 card-holders or hon Member commented: ·'Why don't you households, like that~ instead of numbers you jump on those people 1" Under the law of take the number of card-holders. the land available in a democratic country whatever p05sible bas been done at the first SHRI A.K. PANJA : Sir. at present the instance. Not that entire thing bas been policy is, for 000 population one fair price done. Through the Central Bureau of shop should be there. Tbat is tbe present Investigation througbout the country, certain policy we follow. As it fell from you, Sir, searches bave been made. I will give you certainly I will look into it as to whether it details of the steps taken against the should be done like that also. But the diffi- defaulters, officers and also some of the cu lty is coming like this. Setting up of fair employees. B"sides these steps, certain other price shops is the duty of the State. What steps have also been taken which I will point we are finding i! that even certain States are out later on. But now I will 10 to the next saying that they have crossed the norm, like point. X State has crossed the norm, but we find tbat th~ norm is crO'iSed by mathematical Shri Anoopchand Shah asked why one calculation taking 2000 and dividing it with uniform policy is not followed throughout the entire population. But the distributive the country and why different policy is there, justice pattern is not followed 10 together so far a5 Keral.! and Bengal is concerned. in an urban area, but out of those 10, 8 would have been sufficient, two should have Sir, so far as Kerala and Bengal are gone to a different place. That has not been concerned, tho distribution has not been done. We are trying to ... taken u!' by tbe States concerned. Even to tbe retailers it bas to be done through FCI MR. DEPUTY-SPBAKER : In rural from their own godowns. We have taken it areas they are affected more because in to 4'OS up with the State Governments concerned population is in clusterS. When we 10 to and they have aareed. So long as we are tbe villages, we find thal~ are S or 6 operating under an agreement, they were not villages, small bamleCI~" ~ at different agreeing. tbe State Governments were not places at 3 10 5 kilometers di_e. There. agreeing. Now, tbey have agreed, I am told, fore. if you adopt t~ , • '.rae IIOrm there, and the modalities of how it is to be handed people -are affe",ted. ,~. stero that bas to over to tbem are beiDI worked out. There- be relaxed. Here th .~ card-holders fore, all over India we are tryina to bave one one shop means there aT!£.AU or 500 card- single poliCY for aU States includina KeraJa holders for ODe shop thero. If you do like and West Bengal. tbat, it will affect thc:m. Mr. Shah bas also raised another point SHRI A K. PAN)A : Certainly. As it about tbe establishment of the State Food come from you, Sir, it is absolutely correct. Corporation. We have at present regional But it is a matter for the State to find out offices through which we are covering all the State~ aod the Union Territories and the MR. OBPUIY-SPBAKER: You caD need now i, to make those regional offices give directions to tbom. strong so that SUpervitiOD goes more aDd it could be worked out properly. SH~I A.K. PANJA : Repeated diJec.. tions. as I say. In fact, I personally wrote So far as tbe retail distribution i. con- a lettct the other day to all the Chief cerned~ I have already stated that it is the f\.iinisters concerned. statiDI t,bat it bas to be primary responsibility of the States concero- done, not only auaining the JI6mericaJ.- fiBure , ed. Here at tbis staae I caD point out but distributive justice shall 'llave to be done certaio lacunae whicb hive come to our how much j, required in t.be urban ..... 291 D.O. (Gen.) 1976-87 A'PRffi 17, 1986 D.G. (Gsn.) 1986-81 292 [Shrl A.K. Panja] justice. and 15 States and Union Territories where ,here are concentrations of population. have not attained the norms, so far as retail We have also written to States having large shops are concerned. tribal population to have mobile vehicles of The other point raised by Mr. Shah was which 25 per cent will be straightway Central regarding the ex-officio directors, noo- sub~idy and 75 per cent on easy terms, officials directors OD the Board of Food long-term loans, to be given as a one time Corporation of India. We have now 6 ex· measure. Total amount is Rs two lakhs for officio directors and 6 other directors, the purchase of one veh;cle. and we sanc- total1ing 12. Out of that, Dr. K. Krishna- tioned as many as 71 vehicles as they are murthy is the Director, Institute of requiring But it is painful that some of the who States straightway statej that they don't Economic Growth is one of the non-official directors the Board. 4 vacancies of other require them, even though. you know tbat on directors are still there. I am told that we the vehicle is made available to them and if are taking to fill up these vaca ncics. they operate this infrastructure. they will be steps easily able to go to the distant places where SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: You said. I tribals live. to the distant places where the am told, we are taking steps. Who are people below poverty level live or to the taking steps? "We" means what? distant places where the rural people live. Some of the States have refused it and I am MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER The very sorry, ... Government is taking steps. The Ministry is taking. SHRT RAM PY ARE PANIKA (Roberts- ganj) : How many States are getting the KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: The opportunity ? Minister bas taken bold steps. You should criticise wherever necessary and you should appreciate wben the Minister takes action KUMARI MAMATA BANBRJEE also. I would say this also during tbe half- (Jadavpur) : How many States are getting 1 an-hour discussion. (Inte"uptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, you SHRI A.K.. PAN)" : This is a new pro- spare half-an-hour for her. gramme. AIf" ~ -States and Union Terri- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: O.K. tories bave ~. except unfortunately, the State or_;.. - gal.. Why I am bring- SHRI A.K. PANJA: Mr. Sayed Ma~udal ing to your _'~otiCo :.~. Hossain, Shri Vyas and Shri Suman raised SHR) AN( )PCHAND SHAH (Bombay the point about the unnecessary movement Nortb) : Let-, -~ misunderstand. of stock in favour of contractors, and tbat the staff sbould be transferred. He also men- For eve!") ».A)()- units, there should be tioned about foodgrains sold in open througb one shop and not 2~"population, as far as contractors and reflected as lost, and about my knwoe knowl . ' is concerned- Over tribe to FCI staff. and above this. no mer should run for more than 1.5 kms'. That is the formula, Some steps ha ve been taken by at present. - But this 2,000 unit formula can me and by my senior colleague directlY. be applied to rural and not to the urban. First, is strict vigil is maintained to improve the efficiency of the staff and a~tion is also SHRI A.IC. PANJA ; I was on a differ- taken against the corrupt element. Responsi- ent point. I was saying about the mobile bility is al80 fixed 8sainst the contractors for fair price shop which cO:Jld go into the shortages and recoveries are made from di it ant areas and cater to the needs of the them. WheDever specific complain ts come people. to the notice of the Government or the management, these are looked into and So far ....rtfall is concerned, I need remedial action is taken. During J985, action Dot 10 wit - gures. But from the figures, was Initiated against 609 employees of FCI I find tblt States bave attained norms and direct penalties were imported OD 778 .ltbou. not according to distributive employees. During 198'. 76 omployccs 293 D.G. (Gth.) 1986.87 CHAITRA 21. 1908 (SAKA) D.G. (Gen.) 1986.87 294 including 2 Category-I officers were dismis- Sbri Raj Kumar Rai has raiaN a point sed or retired from the service. Recently, about FCI raid on Mr. T.L. Bassi aDd tbe Centra) Bureau of Investigation has asked what steps have been taken. As a conducted raids on tbe houses of 26 officers result of PCI raids, 18 regular cases wero of FCI in respect of 18 cases registered. ins tituted ... Mr. Vyas also raised the point about MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: There are certain specific allegations. While hearing his three minutes moro. If you want to continue speech, my senior collegaue already stood up your intervention, you can continue 00 .•• and assured the House that if details are Monday. Otherwise, if you want, you can· gi ven by any of the hone Members, giving finish it. specific case and name, action would be SHRI A.K. PANJA : I wiU take UP. up taken. You will appreciate, under the law to 3.30. There are certain very valuable of land, we require some particulars to at points. least frame a prima facie case Please do help us, we are asking and appealins to you for MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you want. giving specific case and not making at you can continue on Monday. There is 410 random allegations. Of course, I know, you objection. ~ would not. But by giving specific case, specific names and at least some specifiC Up to 3.30 you can take and then after- instances, certainly the arm of law would be wards, ir you want ..• large enougb to get hold of earning emp- loyees, however the big officer be may be. SHRI A.K. PANJA : So far as Shri Bassi is concerned, he b..ls been suspended. It is not that. no step has been taken. He has So far as weighment facilities and physi- been put under suspension. He was the cal verification is concerned, Shri Girdhari Assistant Manager, Fel, Delhi. Lal Vyas has raised certain very re1Cv8Dt point and I would like to reply to~&at. There are certain other main points. I will certainly give the complete reply OD FeI has decided to provide lorry weigh Monday. bridges, at all the depots having the capacity of 5,000 tonnes or moro. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You can continue for another two to three minutes. Secondly, weigh bridges in 256 depots ha ve already been installed and action in the SHRI A.K. PANJA: There it another case of other depots is in prOSl'ess. point raised today by an bon. Member that, why in certain Fair Price Shops, control Standardisation of the bags, of which I cloth is not given. As I impressed on the have already said, and lOO,},o weighment, Members, these are the duties of the State have to be done. Bags have been standardi- Government. sed at 95 Kg. So far as Himachal Pradesh is concerned, Special squads have been formed to huge items they supply starting with wheat, conduct physical verification of FCI depots atta, kerosene, sugar, rape seed oil, soyabean with notice and with surprise visit. With oil. palm oil, palmoJin oil and pulses. There notice, for the particular purpose of giving is a 10Dg list or items. But some of the them sufficient 'notice to correct if there be States. I do not want to name therein any errpr and surprise checks for the purpose because probabiy thoy may think that of going there and finding out. I am ha vinl bias alainst them are supply- ing only 4 or 5 items. We are asking them Alona with that, there arc Bodies with to tell us whatever difficulties they are statutory auditors who will go without notice facinl_ to any of tbe big godoWQs and they will 80 But take essential commodities, even there and make the entire accoUDting of match boxes. whatever stocks thoro are, check up the endro bass and givo a direct report to the Some lady Member emphasised on Government throuah tho Cbairman. PCI. pulses. We want pulses to be also aNen 295 APRIL 17, 1986 Const. (Amdt.) Bill 296 SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Tractor MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : The ques- and cycle tyres must be sold in the Fair tion is. Price Shops. UThat leave be sranted to introduce a SHRI A.K. PANJA: Yes. Cycle tyres Bill further to amend the Constitution are being given. Some Fair Price Shops are of India." doing. But the difficulty is this. If the State Government does not perform its The motion was adopted. own duties to look after, it is for us to make them and to persuade them as far as SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: I possible. Therefore, so far as. introduce the Bill. SHRI R.P. DAS (Krisbnaganj): Why are these easential commodities not supplied to the ration shops througb the P CI 1 CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL. SHRI A.K. PANJA: While we are (Insertion of new Part XX/A, etc.) doing some work, we have been criticised so [English] much. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Pulses and (Kopargaon): I beg to move for leave to food, not tyres, they are supplying you food. introduce a Bill further to amend the (Interruptions) Constitution of India. SHRI A.K. PANJA : I am thankful to to the hone Member for having .•• MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER: The ques- ( Inte"",t;ons). tion is : But I am sure that with the leadership "That leave be granted to introduce a aiven by tbe bon. Prime Minister and the Bill further to amend the Constitution energy I am letting in doing the work in of India." Food and Civil Supplies Department and with The motion was adopted. the direction given by the Minister in charge, Shri p. Shiv Shanker, the problenH nlen.. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: tioned by the hone Members will not only I introduce the Bill. be solved very soon, but very soon they win find improvement in many things. You may go on shaking your head but you will AGRO.BASED INDUSTRIES RESER. have to say 'Yes', after six months p~riod. VED FOR THE PRODUCERS AND I will deal with the other points on WORKERS CO-OPERATIVES BILL.* Monday. [English] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now we take Private Members' business. Bills for SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB PAT}L introduction. (Kopargaon) : I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for reservation of agro-based industries for producers and 15.30 hrs. workers' co-operatives and to provide financial assistance to such co-operatives in CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL. setting up agro-based industries. (Amendment articles 310 and 311) 0/ MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: The ques. [English] tion is : SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA "That leave be granted to introduce a (Tamluk): I be, to move for leave lO Bill to provide for reservation of agee- introduce a Bill further to amend the based industries for producers and Constitution of India. worker.' co-operatives aDd to provide .PubUshod in Gazette of India Extra-ordinary Part 11 section 2, dated 17.4.1986. 297 CHAITRA 27, 1988 (SAKA) Agr. Work'" Compen- 298 sation Bill financial assistance to such co-operatives AGRICULTURAL WORKBRS' COM- in setting up of agro-based industries." PENSATION BILL.* The motion WiU adopted. [English] SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN (Jangipur): I SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to I introduce the B)ll. provide for payment by the Government to the agricultural workers of compensation for injury by accident. SMALL AND MARGINAL FARMERS' AID BILL. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Tho question is r [English] "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill provide for payment by the SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia): to Government to the agricultural workers I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill or compensation ror injury by accident." to provjde for the grant of loans and other subsidies to small and marginal farmers. The motion was adopted. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques- SHRI ZAINAL ABBDIN: I introduce tion is : the Bil1. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for the grant of loans CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL. and other subsidies to smaH and margi- nal farmers". (A.mendment 0/ article 101) The motion was adopted. [Eng/ish] SHRI ANOQPCHAND SHAH: SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: I (Bombay North): I beg to move for leave introduce the Bill to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India. SPECIAL MEDICAL FACILITIES TO MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Tbe GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES BILL· question is : [English] hThat leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution SHRI HANNAN MQLLAH (Uluberia) : of India.u I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill The motion was adopted, to provide for the medical facilities 10 Government employees who need special SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH: I medical attention. introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques- tion is : CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL. "That leave be granted to introduce a (Amendment of Article 311) Bill to provide for the medical facilities to Government employees who need [English] special medical attention." SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill The motion was adopUd. funher to amend the Constitution of India. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques.. introduce the BiU . tion is : • Published in Gazette of India Extra-ordinary Part II. Section 2. dated 17.4.1986. 299 Const. (AmJt.) lJiil APR.lL 17, 1986 Const. (Amdt.) Bill 300 [Mr_ D.pllty Speaker] CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL tCThat leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution (Amendment of Article 315) of India." [English] The motion was adopted. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji) : SHRI SURESH KUa.UP : I introduce I beg to move ror leave to introduce a Bill the Bill, further to amend the Constitution or India. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) question is : BILL· "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill rurther to amend the Constitution of (Insertion of new article 333A) India." [English] The motion WQS adopted. DR. p. VALLAL PBRUMAN (Chin- SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: I intro- dambaram): I bel to move for leave for duce the Bill. introduce a Bill furtber to amend tbe Constitution of India. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The quos- IS.35 hrs. tion is : BBEDI AND CIGAR WORKERS "That leave be granted to introduce a (CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT) Bill further to amend the Constitution AMENDMENT BILL Contd.L of India.-' (Amendment of Section 2, etc.) TIle motion was adopted. [English] DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: I introduce to Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we take up the BiI1s for consideration and passing. CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) Further consideration of the fo1low;og BILL motion moved by Shri Ajit Kumar Saba on (AtMndment 0/ Article 324) the 4th.. April, 1986, namely: - [Engli.rh] "That the BiU further to amend the Beedi - and Cigar Workers (Conditions SHal G.M. BANATWALLA (Ponnani). of Employment) Act 1966, be taken into J bel to move for leave to introduce a Bill consideratioD. " furtbcr to amend tbe Constitution of India. Now, Shri Thampan Thomas-not bere, MJl. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Sbri Virdhi Chander Jain. question is : [Translalion 1 "That leave be &ranted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution ~ SHRI VIRDHI CHANDBR JAIN 01 India.~' (Barmer): I would like to express my The motion Wa.f adopted. opinion io relard to the motion moved by Sbri Ajit Kumar Saba for further amend- SHIU G.M. BANATWALLA : I intro- ment to the Bee(li aod Cigar workers (Con- duce tbe Bill. ditioDs of Employment) Amendment Bill • • Published in Oazette of Ind" Bxtra-ordinary Part II, Section 2, dated 17.4.1986. 301 B~ed i & Sigar WarktJrs CHAITRA 27. 1908 't6AKA) (Conditio", 0/ EmpIDY" 302 menl) Amdt. Bill At prescnt, there are 40 lakh beedi the bidi and cigar industry for their liveli- workers in the country whose condition is hood. In this industry, boys and girl. rang- very pitiable. They are being exploited by ing from 5 to 12 years of age work aloo. the employers. The employers de. not follow with their parents whether it is tying the any Jaws. Tbe labourers are also not in a bidis with thread or cutting the leaves. position to drive any benefit feom any laws They help their parents in a]) tbese works. like industrial law and Minimum Wages This work is alao got done by the cODtrac- Act. They do not have organisational tors. They give commission to their alents. power to do so. In a number of States, When the Labour Commissioner makes a Minimum Wages Act does not apply to visit to ensure implementation of labour these labourers as a result of which their Act, he is told by the employer tbat he is condition bas become very pitiable. I would Dot concerned with them. The same plea is like to suggest that a comprehensive central given by the contractor allo. He says that legislation should be enacted in which all he buys tobacco, leaves, thread ane then those provisions should be condified ulti- makes bidis. So he has nothing to do with m~tely culminating in tbe amelioration of them. The result is that the workers are the condition of the bidi workers. At denied bonus, provident fund and otber present the situation is such that the women facilities. I have written two to three letters workers put up work equal to that of the to you. You should look into it. The male workers but they get less salary as provision of provident fund sbould be compared to that of their male counterparts. included in the Bin. A comprebensive Bill Similarly the condition of child labour in should be brought to save the bidl workers. this job is no less pitiable. They get Rs. 3 the Industrial Even Dispute Act is not to Rs. 4 per day. Their duty hours are applicable to them. fixed but they have -to work ten to twelve hours at a stretch. Even after putting such I would like to say more thing. In the a hard labour they get Rs. 6, Rs. 8 and at cities twelve rupees are paid for making one some pJaces they get only Rs. 4 as wages. thousand bidis whereas the contractors pay So the need of the hour is that the Central at the rate of five to six rupees per thousand Government should bring a comprehensive in villages, Therefore, contract system central Legislation to improve their condi .. s1}ould be abolished. The licence should tion. The provisions included in this Bill be compulsory for the bidi Manufacturers. are not sufficient. These provisions will not Manufacture of bidi without license should b~ helpful in ameliorating the condition of not be allowed. At prescnt, licence is the bidi workers. At present the condition required to purchase tobacco and these of the unorganised labour in any field in the people get it from the Tobacco Excise country b not satisfactory. The bidi workers inspector and start manufacturing bidi are not organised. There i~ no Act to without registration and without follo.ina incur them any benefit. There ~ ,no the Labour Act. Though the worker do guarantee of employment for the~~. not get sufficient wages, yet they bave to employers sack them at will. There i,~~ work in these bidi industries. The con- provision in regard to their pension. provi- tractor getl it manufactured at a very cheap dent fund, gratuity etc Vnder this condi- rate and sells it at a very hiab rate and tion, I would like to suggest that a compre· earns huge profit. I want the profit to be hensive legislation be brought to benefit the distributed amon, the workers. The workers bidi workers so as the ameliorate their are being exploited. In Andhra Pradesh, pit fable condition. Karam Nagar, Warrangal etc. are drouaht- prone areas where Lidis are manufactured. With lhe"e words, I would like to extend Same is tbe condition of Indore and mv support to the spirit which is behind Bhopal in Madbya Pradesh. In Andhra this Bill that has becn moved in the House. Pradesb the bidi and cilar manufacturiDa is the biggest cottage industry. Tba'efore. SHRl C. JANGA REnDY (Hanam- I want that hOD. Minister should accept the konda) :.Mr. Deputy Sl}\!..lkcr, Sit, I rise to BiU or the Government mould briDa a support thi~ Btll. Tbe number of bidi comprehensive Bill for this purpose so that workers In my constituency itself is very the worker eneaaed in bidi aDd. cl.. r high. At least one lakb porSODS depend on industry may be saved from expJoitatioD. !O3 Bftdl & SI,ar Workers i' ~PR.IL 17, 1986 (Contlitions 0/ Employment) 304 Amdt. Bill [Shrl C. Janga Reddy] insignificant industry. Therefore, it is a With these words, I conclude. very serious matter. What I mean to say is that nowhere it happens that a worker DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): works for 18 hours a day and works 365 Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. in this CouDtry, days in a year without any break. A worker lakhs of people are ergaged in bidi and cannot main fain himseif with such meagre cigar industry particularly in Bibar and wage so what to say of his family. Uttar Pradesh. Mo~t of them are women Therefore, It is a very serious matter. In and children. If you want to see the the reai sense the bonded labourers are exploitation of the workers, you can see it working in this industry. It is necessary in bidi industry. In the lover nment records to bring a comprehensive legisJation in this the owner of bidi industry does not exist regard so that the people of this industry but every year be makes Jakhs of rupee may come under the purview of the law. • comfortably without paying any tax. There is hardly any other bu~jness in which so In most of the States, tendu leaves are much profit is earned wIth such a small auctioned by the State Government to the investment and wit hout any labour problem. wholesaIt r. Ther e should be a provision There is "wheel within wheel" in this to maintain the account or tendu leaves industry. The w3ges are different for men sales as to how many lea ves have been used and the women workers. At many places for bidi making, and by whow and where wOmen worked raised this issue that when they have been sold because it is the only tbere is no difference in the quality of bidi source from where we can know about the manufactured by the male labourer and real owner who is exploiting the workers. the feamale labourer and all bidis are There is no other way to obtain the infor. supplied to one dealer at the same mation. rate then why there is dirference in Qne more tbing I would like to say is wages. Why does a male worker get Rs. that a statutory warning is written on the 8 per thousand and a female worker Rs. 4 cigarette packets that cigarette smoking is per thousand. For this industry. there is injurious to health. I t is another mattcr no need to purchase any space to set up a that people smoke cigareUes in spite of factory. The Tendu leaves and tobacco are this. Likewise, we should also write this supplied and the scissor, nail and thread warning on the bidi packets either in Urdu are used as instruments. The poor engage or in Hindi. And in spite of the warning. their 5 to 6 years old children and women if anyone wants to smoke bide, he may. in this industry with the hope to improve their financial position. But they do not Bidi.smoking is a separate issue but the know how tbey are spoiting the lives of their workers engaged in bidi-making are being children. 25 to 30 per Cent people working exploited very badly There are eertain in the bidi industry, are T.D patients. They instances when a worker died after ICrving 10 50 years in the bidi industry but after can neither 80 anywhere nor compel anyone 40 for their treatment as a result of which ~ death even coffin was not avallabJe to most of the people die premature death. cover his dead body. Wben his wife Besides T.D., the workers become victim of approached tbe owner for some money, cancer which is incurable. As said earlier he told ber to send her child to work in the industry and only then would he lend by an hOD. Member tbd.t in this industry there is no owner, no m:1nager and no money ~ Tbe helpless woman, sent her chiJd contractor and as such upon whom who, then, beCame the slave for his whOle you will fix the responsibility. The life. owner would say tbat be does Dot We talk about the child labour and the know anybody and ask you to 10 and bonded labour. We aJso say that they are contact tbe contractor and tbe contractor being exploited and something shOUld be would say that he is also a WOT ker like done for them. It aUractt the attontion other. and aet a smaD amount of commts- of the whole world ,bat injustice is being sion only, and in turn ask you to 80 and done to them. But we do not talk about meet tbe owner. Whenever aoyone tried to the cbild labour and the bonded labour form a union, he could not obtain tbe working in bidi industry because we cannot recognition OD the groud that it was an see tbem as they do Dot work at one place. 30$ Be~d/ &. Cigar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions 01 Employ. 3()-) ment) Arndt. Bill It is a serious matter. I, therefore, safeguard their interests. It i'J time that request the Government to bring a com- we started thinking and doing something prehensive legislation so that exploitation of about these people in the unorganrsed these people may be stopped. These people sectors nryt only for the bidi worker1;. whose are victims in the hands of the exploiters Bill is before us, but for the enhre gamut of and are soon led to death. unorgani~ed workers. [English] In my con~tituency, just to give you an example, there are t:.tilors. It is a con~ti SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond toency having two lakhs of people, who Harbour): Mr • Deputy-Speaker. Sir, work as taIlors in houses just like bidi I rise to support the Bin and I thank the workers They work: for some P'!ople who mover or the bill for bringing forw3rd this are the ma~ter tallors. They live nearby; Bill in order to introduce some salutary they their houses ear1y in the morning. changes in the miserable life of the 'bidi' '0 They work from six in the morning to ten workers. Not only they work long hours, in the evening with little gap for their meah. work hard to e ~m their low wages which and In exchange they earn a pittance of a they ge~. but quite often the employers are wage That also they earn on some days taking advantage of their condition as well of the month. not on all the working days. as the loopholes of the Jaw, tbat they lhis is the condition of all unorganised deprive them of their just hard earned workers everywhere. Laws should be enacted. wages. This is a case representative of one The cond,tions should be examined. There type of workers. But in fact it is a .tale of has been no examination of their conditions woe, which is applicable to all sections of by the Labour Ministry at all. The Labour unorganised workers and they exceed t~e Mi!}lster who is present here should kindly orgaOised workors in our country by definl- note that these workers are not beyond the tely a ratio of 10 : 1. Sir, the organised pale of Labour Ministry's jUrIsdlction; they sector of the industry naturally got are v~ry much so. He should See that first primacy bec3use of their organisation of all, a proper survey is made of the con- because of their being usually in big and ditions of work, hygiene, healrh, monetary medJ!Jm-sized factories which are quite and other benefits given to these workers. often of national importance for various What is the number, undel.· what conditions reasons Workers working in those factories they work and how to safeguard their not only get relatively high wages compared intere~ts by a comprehensive BIn to their brethern working in uDorganlsed which my hon friend Dr. Rajhans has sug- sectors or working in agricultural sector, gested I support that there must be a but they also get fairly reasonable hours of comprehensive enactment regard'ng the work, they get sanitary cO'lditions in which unorgaOised section of workers of all types. to work. they get bealtb benefits, tbey get There must be a minimum wagec; fixed for other terminal benefits like provident fund" them, there must be conditIons of work pensioD. gratuity etc. Tbese are there ~or laid down anJ the premise~ in which they the orglnised sector. When. a country . hke work must be licenseJ. A person should be India sends its representative to an Inter- responsible for the payment of wages; a nltionaI organization like ILO, we can chart person, who Clnnot escape by saying: out statlsttcs of what kind of benefits we are i'! am Dot .} our employer, somebody else giving to our workmen, but we do D~t is your employer". That kind of condition mention what is happening to our unorg~l cannot b! allowed to continue. sed workers. We say that we are followJOg ILO guidelines, ILO charter, we have 16.00 brs. arranged for the workers such and ~uc.h benefits. medical and others.. But thIS IS How is it that after 40 years or indepen- only a tip of the iceberg which gets the dence , we are in such a primitive condition recognition, which gets tbe benefits, and that we a\1,:;w nine-tenth of our industrial nine-tenth of the work forces are submerged workers to be in such a position. Tb;s is in miserable poverty and they are also intolerable and the Parliament should take exploited because we are the people. res~ note of this. The Government should sible for not enactinl the laws Which WIU realise tbat this is one of their Primary 307 Beedi & Cigar Workers APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ EmploY1114nt) 308 Amdt. Bill [Shri Amal Datta] bidi units. From that area aloo.e, crores of rupees have been misappropriated on the responsibility, which they have not di~charge; protext of excise duty. The profits that Dot only that. they have not yet recognised they have earned by not paying the mini- it as their duty. They should recognise and mum wages as fixed by the Government also do whatever is possible within the life of this run into several crores of rupees. If the Parliament. I am giving them a long rope entire country is taken into consideration, because it will hopefully last for another tben perbaps their earnings would be in three and a half years or so. There is thousands of crores of rupees. Each State enough time to have a survey, to have has a separate wage pattern. Dearness an enactment and have it implemented. I am allowances vary from place to place, depend. sure., Mr. Sangma, who is present in the ing whether it is a village, Municipal House who is very sympathetic to the cause area or Town area or the area under Corpo- of labour, will take up the cudgels on ration or a municipality. The peopJe living their behalf, on behalf of this unorganised in the rural areas are not entatled to this sector of Jabour. allowance. The bidi worker are not gelting [Translation] their minimum wages as fixed by the Government throughout the country and in SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV this way the factory-owners are becoming (Nalanda) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while millIonaires by pocketing the rightful earn- supporting the Bin, I would like state. that t? ings of these people. I do not think that the Bill which has been introduced IS a PrIvate the Central Government is not concerned Members Bill and similar Bills dealing with about the matter. On the cOnfrary, it is the queslion of bidi-workers have been seriously concerned about it. I have been introduced in the House in the past also acd a Member of the Parliament since 1980. this issue has been a subject matter of I must have put at least 50 to 60 questions discussion earlier also. DuriDI2 the course on the subject of bidi workers alone. of the discussion. all the Members. by and The question that always arises is regard- large have demanded that a comprehensive ing the implementation of various Jaws. The Bill ;houJd be introduced in this regard ~o Central Government does not yet possess a that the conditions of tbe bid i-workers machinery capable of implementing them. improve. and they are able to enjoy legal As a result, the factory owners have been rights and live like normal human beings. provided with a loog rope and they have 16.02 brs. been violating the rules and regulations and [SHRI SHARAD DIGBE in the Chair]. deriving benefits. The industrialists do not follow the Minimum wages rule as fixed You are well aware that there are about by the Government. Although tripartite con- forty lakh bidi-workers in our country. If ferences are held, in which the representative the number of their family members and of the Government, the indUstry and tho~e dependents is also added, then the of the bidi workers union participate and total would be nearly two ~ror.es. take decisions regarding minimum wages, If the people engaged in the cultlVJ!IOn yet when the Government notification is of tobacco or in allied fields of work are issued, these people do not adhere to it. also included, then the total number :"ould increase even further. It is saddenlD~ to I ba ve rahed this issue in Pal]iament note that our Government is not yet seized eitner in question hour or through some of the suffering of such a large part of other course. I would like to request the populace. In an independent ~oun~ry like Labour Ministry to kindly make such ours, the kind of treatment that JS given to arrangements. So that a comprehensive Bill the workers of thi. industry is re:.!lly a matter could be introduced in accordance \\ ith of grave concern and a sOUrce of regret. which a Tripartite conference may be caUed, Again it would seem to an o~tsjder t~~t in order to take a decision regarding the tbe~ are small scale factories but 10 realtty. fix:tlion of Minimum wages. It should also these factory-owners are earning crores of be ensured that the fdctory-o\\ ners are not rupees through them. At Nalanda, which granted permission to approach the H igll is my COIIItituency, ten thousand men and Court or the Supreme Court in this matter. five thousand women arc employed in the Agajo, aJthough apparently the wales are 309 Beedi & Cigar fVorkers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions 0/ Employ- 310 ment) Arndt. Bill fixed OD the basis of mutual consultation yet paid. The factories are shIfted to rural areas in reality, the suggestions of the bidi-workers and even from one state to another. The are not taken into consideration. The wages labourers cannot do much because they are are not fixed according to the demands of not rally organised. StiU if some unions of their representatives. In fact, the intere5ts such industrie5 exist, they struggle for rightful of the iBdustrialists are kept in mind djspite wages, and the industrialists evade the issue Government participation in it. And what- by closing down the bnits. Consequently ever wages are fixed during the course of Government has no way out to stop such ex- tbe conference, it is not given to them. So ploJtation. Therefore, it is essential to grant due arrangements must be made to take a unifonn wages throughout tbe country. Tbe decision regarding minimum wages, so that disparities in respect of wages between cities, they are not able to approach the court to rurul areas and corporation towns must be stall the process Or take a stay-order. For put an end to and arrangements should be this reason some new sections should be made to ensure equal wages to the male as incorporated in the relevant laws and pro- well as to the female worker. visions sbou1d be made for the seVere&t punishment to the offenders. Mr. Chairman Sir. we have to Jook into the difficulties of the bidi workers today. As several hon. members have also said, and we have to find out the cause of their it is a fact that the present Government has misery. There is no dearth of laws for the declared its policy of 'equal pay for equal protection of workers. There are proviSions work't But the female workers in this i~ our legal system to enable a worker to industry are not treated equally in respect of be recognised by the Government. The wages, and are paid less in comparison to procedure IS that within 72 hours of appoint- their male counterparts in every corner of ment, a labourer must be i.ssued a service the country and this is a very sad situation. card. However, as I had tabled a question When we are talking of giving as many in the Parliament and had asked the GO\lem- benefits as possible to women and when ment some tlme ago, the number of workers steps are being taken to bring about an in Bidi industry in alJ the States of the equality of social status, then is it not country and the number thereof who have possible to en~ure equality of wages? Do the been is ... u~d service cards and the statistics manufacturers sell the bidis rolled by a furnished by the Government indicated tbat female worker at a lesser pri;:e or does ~be only 60 to 70 thousand workers ha~e been not make bidis of good quality? issued service cards, whereas almost 40 lakh.! workers are employed in the bidi ur:its all Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say over the country. These service cards were that the quality of a bidi depends upon the Dot is"ued by the factory owners but were softness of hand~ which roll it. Therefore, issued by your Labour SupcI'Intendents. younger people make bidis of a very g~od Government departments have issued these quality. When they get older, they are able service cards. You ha ve obtained tIleso to roU lesser number of bidis und the qu·.llit)' statistics from them which are Dot valid of bidi also d~terio( ates. Although exper i- before the law. Similar]y, although they enced workers would be prcf~rred in other hJ.ve been issued identity cards and they industries for their experiC'Dce yet in the bidi might get some facility from the Welfare unit the case would be different as older Fund. but they are not going to get any help people are Dot capable of rolling bidis of from any quarter legally or in accordance superior quality. Hence I want to say. that with the Acts governing trade unions which the women working in this industry make grant certain rights like Providen, Fund and equally good bid is and their product is not bonus Therefore, I would like to request sold at a cheaper rate in the market. In the hon. Minister to bring a comprehensive spite of this. tbey arc exploited economically. Bill in this regard. We should think about This issue encompasses both the rural and law enforcing macbmery, and working the urban areas and has become a serious hours should be fixed. If a worker works problem. It so happens that when there is upto certain period of time, then he should a movement demanding Miniulum Wages in be given service card because the workers the towns. tb~ faccory .. owners transfer their have been working in this industty for the units to areas where losser wages could be last fifty years. Some of tbem have died but 311 BMdi & Cigar Worlcers APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ EmploYIM1It) 312 Amdt. Bill [SlIT; Vajay Kumar Yadav] problems of two or three crores of prople. tbey could not get recolnition as workers I want to tell you that there was a plan to service cards have not be issued to tbem. I open a T.B. Centre, a hospital in Bihar find that the workers of bidi industry work Sharief which is the headquarter of my in worst conditions than tbose of other constituency. Nalanda. 80 per cent of the Industries. So far as the question of service workers in bidi industry suffer from T.B. of card is concerned, tbe factory owners all over primary stage or even seriously. 1 hey are the country have not issued servicc-cards to bound to work in unhealthy conditions. all the workers. You should make arrange.. Therefore, a large number of them be~ome ments for it. Whenever this question comes T.D. patients. Therefore, there is a need to before the Central Government, it says that open T.B. centres at the places having con- it cannot do anything as that question relates centration of these workers. I do not ask to the State Government. It may be right you to open a T.B. Centre/hospital for 500 but the overall adniraistration of the country workers but where there are 15000 workers is in the hlDds of -the Central Government in an area, there you should open a T.B. and as laws are also made by the Govern- Centre/hospital and. moreover you have ment then it becomes the duty of the Central sufficient fund for this purpose. Therefore, Government to implement them through the bidi factory owners and the Government State Governments. In your Labour Confer- should jointly construct these centres. ences you discuss the topic of givina uniform Regarding T.B. Centre/Hospital in Bihar wages to the workers on the All India basis. Sherief, it is being heard th'it now it is being But tbis is a vital issue as workers are not set up somewhere else. You should examine getting service cards and justice. Tbeir all the justifications and take necessary steps employers sometimes even refuse to consider to set up the aforesaid Centre in Bihar them as their employees. The workers also Sharief (Nalanda). face a constant danger of being retrenched at any time. This issue should also be dis. Hon. Chairman, Sir, regarding D. A. and cU5sed in the Labour Minister's C0nference. bonus and about the practice of giving contracts about which several Hon. Members There is a labour welfdre fund but what have rightly said tbe emplOyers ea~ily find is the condition of this fund; it is only a way to evade the laws. Therefore, the means or income to the Gevernment, Recent- owners dsitribute dry leaves at the honl~s ly I asked a question in this regard that and get the bidi manufactured there! as it what were tbe data for the last 3 to 4 years; does not come under the Factory Act and how much Labour Welfare Fund wa, Industrial Dispute Act. I want that tbis received and how much had been distributed type of practice should be stopped. The therefrom. The Government claims tbat people who get the bidis manufaLlured at crores of rupees are Iy;ng with them whereas bomes and who say that it is their funda- on the ocher hand bidi w.ockc:rs and their mental right to manufacture bidis in the children are dYing for want of medicines and market place or at homes should be made education; there is no arrangement to liable to punishment under all relevant laws provide these facilities to tbem -specially, S0 that they cannot explOit the workers the workers living in the urban areas; they Whether there is only one bidi worker or have no houses to live in but a lot of money fifteen workers in a bidi manufacturing unit, is lying with tbe Government a.nd it is Dot all should get the same faCilities which a making these facilities available to them. factory worker gets. You should make I reque.t you to usc this fund fot the welfare arrangement ror this. of tbe workers and also to raise the welfare contribution from 15 paise to Re. 1 per Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to thousand. WhiCb tbe Government charge request that before a comprehensive Bill is from the enlployers and Governm~nt should brought, at least a meeting of the represen- also add Re. 1 per thousand to the \Velfare tatives of Cenfral Trade Union sbould be Fund from itl side so that the workers could called. You shOUld also accept their be provided Wilh boullng, proper education suggestions to the possible extent. Only tben for tbeir children and medical racilitics. This a comprehensive Bill should be brought. way the Government will contribute a DOmina! amollDt but this will solve tile Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support tbis Bill 313 Beedi & Ciger Workers CHAITRA 21, 1908 (SAKA) (Condilioru 0/ Employ- 314 ment) Arndt. Bill and as you are a young and eneraetic industry is widely estabsIished in villages, Minister you can do a great job for the cities, hilly and tribal areas. welfare of the bidi workers. whose plight is misearable. I personally request you to do In the previous session, one thing was something for tbe welfare of the bidi tbing was said that wages can't be increased . workers. because jt can lead to increased unemploy- ment. If sophisticated machinery installed Sir, as our colleague Mr. Rajhans has in the industry, it will become mchanised rightly said that it wzs Supreme Courts and the workers will become unemployed. decision that the workers who do not get In this way 1t will be difficuit to solve thi. minimum wages, should be considered bond- problem. Along with this we have to see ed labourers. This situation may not be how the exploIted workers can be meted out considered bad. So, from that point of view justice aGd saved exploitation. as well as from the point of view of the law these bidi workers' condition is similar to At present thele is only one hospital for the conditions of bonded labourers. I hoac forty lakh workers. Two hospitals with fifty that you will certainly bring a comprehensive beds each are proposed to be constructed. Bill in the House, in their regard. But what is Dumber of T.B. sanatoria? Not a single one! People have to take recourse SHRI B·\L-\SAHEB VIKHE PATIL to private sanatoria or the Government (Kopargaon) : Mr. Ctlirman, Sir, the Bidi hospitals. They do Dot receive proper treat- and Cigar \Vorkers (Amendment) Bill shows ment there because they are not special that quite a large number of workers are hospitals. Some women workers contaCt engaged in bidi and cigar industry. In this ClDcer. At preset sixty to eighty per cent connection, I would also like to say that a people are suffer ing from T.B. and many large number of workers are engaged in the women are becoming victims of cancer. We Units manufacturing che"-ing-tobacco but should open maximum number of cancer they have nOt found a reference in tbe B:II. treatment centres. It is true that factory Government of Mabara~htra bad forn1ed a owners ~hould allccate sOme funds towards comp. ittee in this regard and also made a this but how much are \\e going to spend. low but as some hon. l'vlembers have observed. the :,ituation nm~ins the same as Rtcently scholarships have been given to that I.iW has not so far b(en translated into 17,0(0 children. You will note that even prac!ke. half of tbe total grant f£'r the purpose bas not been spent. The Governmer.t wants to It is a fact thlt about 40 lakb workers spend sonle money but not even half of the are engaged in bidi industry, but it is the total grant is spent on the workers. I would workers engaged in thIs indu~try who are like to know re!ponsibdity we are discharg- being exploited most \Ve want a social ing as Governmer.t. \Ye should strive to meet sy:-,tem free of exploitati,)n. Wb ile our aim out justice to these workers. is to bring about this sYMem, there is exploi- tation of both type, i.c., on one band due to Labour Commissioners in many States money and on the other due to bad health. say and we also say that it is a State-subject. The health of the workers engaged in tbis There is labour COlnmissioner, Asstt. industry is not good. LaboJr Commissioner and the bidi industry has formed many trusts. 'There i~ a Charity There are twenly two per cent female Ccmmissioner also. The bidi industrialists and one per cent child workas in this have de\eloped this industry so much that industry. If We talk in terms of age, sixty they have constructed palaces for them. On eight per cent workt"rs are below tbe age the other hand~ in nly view, DO benefit is of forty yean and thirty three ~'cr cent are accruing to the bidi workers- Funds are of a bove forty years. The per~oDs who ure being created afler coHecting contributions below twenty five years con~titute thirty-three from the workers and the trusts are beiDg per cent of the total. Just now some hone creJted for them. But who are the trustees? Member rightly pointed out that more young Dadas among the workers or their munshis persons are engaged in this industry. The arc included in the trusts. I would like to 915 Beedi & Cigar Workers APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ Employment) 315 A.rndt. Bill (Shri Balasaheb Vikhe PatilJ Nowadays, there are co-operative societies of these workers in Maharashtra ask who derives benefit from them? It is a and Karnataka but they are Dot getting matter to think over and the workers have proper facilities. Maharashtra Government to be informed about it. has even enacted a law tbat the Scheduled Sometimes the wOlkers go on strike Caste and the Scheduled Tribe members of which runs for two to three months. The these societies will get full facilitiet; from the Go.ernment is unable to help tbem and as a Government. It is my request tbat tb is result of it they face stJrvatioD. should be applicable to aU places and these co-operative societies be Cornled everywhere. You supply 1,000 leaves to tbe workers all of which cannot be used for making The Government must give serious bidis. Out of 5,000 leaves only 2,000 bidis thought to this problem as bidi workers are can be made because the rest are rotten. All exploited most. Tbe plight of the contract the children and parents do this work of labour is still more miserable. When they are bidi making but tbere is no provision for given work, they are asked to sign a plain their education. Is there any scholarship paper and those who are nominated as scheme? The worker is covered under four trustees, they a Iso get the resignation laws. You should make a comprehensive letters signed in advance. When their law in place of four to six laws which should condition is so miserable then for how long take care of the interests of the industry as will you be able to delay the matter on the well as the workers. plea of the State subject. For how long will you continue to teU the workers that Some unions are working on this issue you have full sympathy for them. Today our but they are not so effective because due to labourer can't express their feelings due to unemployment a substitute for a sacked some hardships and even if they say some- worker is available. thing by gathering a bit of courage. they Recently you have enacted Industrial are threatened with dismissal. In such a Disputes Act but the bidi workers don't get situdtion, you have to do something to that much benefit which they should be improve their lot. given. Today you are paying fifteen rupees as maximum \\age but e\ery worker is not You talk of modern technology these getting that much. Most of the workers days. You should provide these co-opera- get only five rupees as wages. Leavo! aside tive societies with good machinery and also the issue of female workers because -hey are give some grants. Only such steps can getting very less wage In my view, you generate courage, confidence and power should think over the e1(tent of Vr ages to be in them. paid to mate and female workers. You should pay more attention to the At the same time, at some places the labour welfare schemes of which you talk wages are paid accordmg to the number of about these days. Health services also bidis rolled. Some seven or eight y =c.1r~ ago, should be paid attention to. Tbese workers our Prime Mimister Smt. Indira Gandhi had should be covc:red by Employees Health made great efi'0rt to improve the si tuation Insurance Scheme. Your POlIll regarding and the Government bad also nationalised bonus and provident fund is correct, but the tendu level trade but despit~ alJ that, when you conSider it a5 an industry, then tbe these workerc; get only two to three rupees employees and workers of this industry a day due to which they are st ,II buffering. should bo! covered by the same in~urance The industry has Dot extended any h'!lp. schemes You should enquire from all the About one lakh worker, are engaged in tbis Slate Governments as to what tbey are industry in ChJnderpur in Maharashtra. The doing in regard. industrialists are not observing any law. Wherever you have clJacted minimnm wages In case of female workers. some Slares acts, it is aho not adhered to. I would have made provisions for maternity leave request the Government to look into this but despite that, the industry-owners don", matter. sanction them maternity leave. If tbe 317 Beedl & Cizar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions of Employ.. 318 ment )Amdt. Bill women workers do not get maternity leave With these words, I would like to say then what type of justice are we meting out that this private Mem1;)er's Bill has posed a to them. challenge, and hope th~t now the Govern- ment will take some steps to provide relief What is social security '1 What type of to the workers. The Government should social security is there for these workers '? also pay attection to the seven lakh workers There are no facilities for medicines, engaged in the production of chewing tobac· education, health and reading and writing. co. 1 hope the Government will give some There is no employment security. It is no p03itive a!suraoce and the hoo. Member use to talk of their future. Do we propose who has brought the Bill, will Withdraw it. to provide tbem with social security? You should discuss the entire problem with the With these words I conclude. State Governments. *KU!vtARI rvIAf\1ATA BANERJEE In my view the Central Bidi Workers (Jadbavpur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir. I want to Board is the Board of the factory-owners. speak in Bengali becaus! through my own It is not workers' board. The Board does language I want 10 express my concern and include the representatives of the union my heart felr fee) ings based on my own but they are not themselves workers. Only experience of toe lot of millions of poor people like Datta Samant, who are leaders. bidi and cigar workers. Also, I have to give some Bengali quotltions as this is a are its members. very sentimental issue. (Interruptions) Although I do not agree with aU the I am talking about bidi workers, provbions of this Amendment BilJ, Yet I support the spirit of the Bill and the objec- DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South tives behind it. It this august Hcuse many Central) : Give me eight days to work and issues are discussed Some are important, I will bring about an all round improvement. some are sen3ational. But we will have to speak about those negle~ted multitudes of SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VAYAS (Bhil~ bidi workers and focus attention on their wara) : He is talking of appointing persons conditions since they have no body also to like you as members. speak for them. People rarely think about DR. DATTA SAMANT : Not that type them or even hear about them. I want to of member who only sip tea. speak about them and I wiU speak from my own experience. In Bengali there is a SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : sa}ing. I was saying that unless more workers are "Aapan bedona seijon bojbe iDcluded in it, it will not be in the interest je jon bhukto bhugi, of workers .... (Interruptions) ..... It is essen- Rog jantrona Kobhil Dd bojhe tial to have discussion for solution of this hoi ni je kcbhu roogi." problem 1 We are not dictators. It is not that a legislation is enacted once and the One who has no persona) experience of issue forgotten. This is a democracy. If th~ misfortunes, one \\bo has no idea about we have democracy, there will also be dis- it, he can never speak effectively in this cUision ...... manner. Sir. here I will like to quote a few lines (rom my self written poem, DR. DATTA SAMANT: The entire unorganised labour should be brought under U Al prithibir bipode aapode it. ghurm" jhanjhai jmit:r srhan, jaader taja Raute koreche SHRI BALASAHEB VIKH[ PATIL: Sukhi samajere Gorte praan Yes, this is right, we want it for the entire Tara'o aojke samaJer niche unorganised labour. I was saying that Sukher bk gi onya hoi social security is very c5sential for the Dukhya lara sahibe ketol labourers. Sukh~r i01lya lara ki no; ? -The speech was origioaUy delivered in Bengali. )19 &eli" Cigar Workers APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ EmplDy1M1lt) 320 Amdt. Bill [X"marl Mamat" Banerjee] implemented that fully. I know the condition in my Stato West Bengal. I have myself I want to speak about all these people in visited several areas. I have organised the this Bidi \Vorkers Amendment Bill. At the bidi workers through the INTUC etc. I have outset I will request the hon. mover of this h:ard their grievances, wants and complaints Bill to withdraw it and let a comprehensive myself. They narrated their experiences to Bin for the bidi workers be brought forth me. I was surprised Sir, when they told me by the Government. This comprehensive that they do not get payment. They go to legislation shoLlld contain provisions of the B.D.O., they go to thl3 S. DO., they go minimum wage, welfare activities and all to the State Government but nobody listens other facilities and benefits for the bidi to them! Who will implement the law? workers. Sir. in my Lok Sabha constitu- Today although I appreciate the spirit of the ency there are about 50,000 bidi workers. hon. Member who has broughtforth tbis With a heavy heart I say that while touring Bill. yet I say that I will speak about the from village to village, I have seen with my condition of bidi workers in other States own eyes that the}' don't have aoy fixed like, Kerala, Tamilnadu, Maharashtra, hours of work. There is no limit on Gujarat etc. only when I find that my own working bours. They have to work not for house is in order. About my own State 8 hour& but from morning till mid night. I regret to say that there was a time when But in return, they do not get even the all the workers had firm faith in the CITU minimum wages. I know this is the res- union. The CITU 'used to speak about the ponsibility of the State Government. The workers who did not believe in any other State Govt. should implement the provisions un;on except this 'Red Flag' union. I regret of the minimum wages a~t. I also know to say that this CITU h:u only played that the responsibility of enforcing the wel- politics with the bidi workers so long. I am fare measures rests with the State Govern- told that the CPM is going to construct a ment. But even today we see in village party coordination committee's office at a after village that these poor people after cost of Rs. 90 lakhs. A CPM party office working hard from morning t;1I mid night has already been c:Jnstru:ted in Alimuddin the bidi workers do not get even the nlini. Str .:et costing several crares of rupee;;. The mum wage of Rs. 16/-. This is tbe condition pOGC millions of Bengali are begging for after 38 years of independence! Somebody food The people of rural W. Bengal say acts only Rs. 8/- for preparing IO)() bidis, a that the -Golden Bengal of Tagore, the women worker gets only Rs. 4 or 5 for 'Beautiful' Bengal of J ivananda has today preparing the same number of bidis. Sir, been turned into the Bengal of 'death, Smt. Indira Gandhi is no more with Ui. But murder and destitution' in the bands of the while ratifying the fLO connection No. 100 left front GOVl. Tbe people clamour for if 1975 she bad said "Right to equal wages justice in vain. The comrades' are not only nor women". If anybody established that wasting crore! of rupees on their party on the face of the world, tha twas Smt. affairs. Sir, you will be surprised to hear Gandhi. But Smt. Gandhi is no morc. \Vho that they are keeping pet birds in silver will implement it Sir 1 Implementation is cages in their party office. What does that DOt being effected today, and because ot that pet bind in the silver cage say? Rabindra the women are being deprived of tbeir right~. Natll T Jgore sang '\V1LHoever m:lY say Then there is the cbild labour Act and the whatever he likes. but I mU'it have a golden right to equal wages etc. But who will imple- deer.' This CPM's bird in the 'silver' cage ment them? This is a m:1tfer or regret that is singing ·'wbosoever may say whatever he the women who do hard work day and likes, bLlt after tbe next elections I want a night, when they fall ill and are unable to go 'golden' cage." In place of silver there will for work they have to mortgage their gold. After gold it will be diamond it will children to tbe employees because tbe princi .. be more costly jewels. But tbe problems of ple of 'no work no pay' is followed tbere. the people or West Bengal win not be solved. I know the Govt. has passed many a legis- I know that State Govt. of We~ Bengat is lation. In 1975 the Govt. made a provision not going to implement any of the legisla- in the law tha.t all the bidi workers have to tions in favour of the bidi work.ers. But the be provided with 'identity cards' for their Central Oovt. cannot be a more onlooker recosoition. I do not know which State bas because the State Govt. is not implementing 321 Seedl & Cigar Work.rs CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions 0/ Employ- 322 ment) Amdt. Bill them. The Central Govt. has also some tbe bidi industry. But tbe expenditure on responsibility in this regard. Whose respon- the welfare activities of the bidi workers is sibility is it to organise these unorganise very mearge. The Govt. should spend more sectors? In every district TB hospitals (or the welfare activities of the bidi workers. should be set up. 10 my area there 50.000 Sir, the bidi workers are exploited in the bidi workers. I say that a TB hospital is hands of the employers. I think that workinl very neceseary there. Now if this TB hos- on tbe cooperative system may improve pital is not set up, who will look after their matters. If some bidi workers are formed treatment? Even if the Central Govt. sets up into cooperatives and the Govt. appoints this TB hospital and hands it over to the one adviser or chaJrman thereof, and in this State Govt. I know for certain that the way if these cooperatives can be run OD tbe State Govt. will do party politics there. The line of small scale industries then tbe bim poor bidi workers who go there for treat- workers win have job security and adequate ment will not get any treatment. Therefore, protection. At the same time they will get I request the Central Govt. to set up TB other benefits and facilities like, bo~us, hospitals in every districts as there was a gratuity, ESI scheme etc. The Govt. also be Govt. proposa] earl ier . The bidi workers able to keep a watch tbat tbey are not need immediate treatment. Secondly there deprived and exploited. With that Sir, I is need of issuing identity cards for the reco- again appeal to you that please do not gnition of the bidi workers. Thirdly I want deprive the poor bidi workers. You know to say that there must not be any di5crimi- that Tribunals were set up at Madras, nation between man and woman regarding Bombay and Nagpur. They were of the payment. There is poverty in our country. unanimous opinion that the bidi workers are But what is more important, there is illite- neglected and deprived even today. These racy in our country. Illiteracy is a big poor hard working millions want to Jive problem. Workers cannot read or write. like human beings. Come let us all join in Even the small children of the bidi workers our efforts to improve their lot. The time have to be mortgaged for rolling bidis. The bas come wben we should all join hands children do not get any opportunity to study. and strive together and renew our thinking The Govl. will have to take the responsi- in this regard. I would request that a com- bility for their education. I know that our prehensive Bill may be brought forth to Govt. is tryiog for the upliftment of all the enable the bidi workers and their women poor people from primary level to the deci- fold to live in respect and dignity and to sion making leveL But implementatic-n is provide education for their children. There- the most important thing For implementa- by tbe Govt. will be able to kindle a ray of tion you conduct surveys. For surveys work hope in tbe hearts of tht"se down trodden you send a high power team. This team ma~es before moving into the 21st century. should find out what are the difficulties Sir, I thank you for lliving me time to speak faced by tbe people. \Vho is not working OD this Bin and with that I conclude. properly etc. The GOVl. rules provide for the issuing of identity cards ... (ln/~rruptjons) {English] Sir, I know that if you want to speak the SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore truth, maoy untruths will be hurled at you. Soulh): I rise to support tbe non --official The CPM thinks that they will shut my Bill sponsored by Mr. Saha. mouth aDd tbat J will keep quiet out of fear. I may tell you that if I have to sneak the T wish the Government of Illdia had truth for the interest of the people, if 1 have come forward with a comprehensive Bill to speak out tbe truth to safeguard the because it is known to everyone tbat the rilbts of tbe people, I am Dot afraid of tbe bidi industry is the most exploited industry CPM. however low they may descend to in our country. Next to agriculture and shut my mouth. I have to speak the truth ba~dloom it is the bidi industry that gives for the people who have scot me here to employment particularly in the rural. areas. speak for them. Nearly 40 lakbs are employed in our country-it is reported. In my own State Next I want to say Sir, that the GOVl. of Kam,taka there are more than 3 lakh~ has collected a tax or ]ts. 1100 crares from bidi workers. I find from a >rcport-"I was 323 ... ond Ci,. Work." APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 01 Employment) 324 Amdt. Bill [Slari V. S. Krishna lyer] The present law, I think, is very ineffective. just goiog through that -that in our country It cannot be enforced. It has no teeth. No nearly 130 croros of beedis are rolled every- . action has been taken against the manu- day and this consumes about 80,000 tonnes facturer or whoever it is. of tobacco and 3.5 lakhs tonnes of kendu leaves and the cost of the tobacco is nearly Coming to the next one: RI. 100 crores. "Rule 40 (2) (a) of the Beedi Workers' This is an industry which does Dot We1fare Fund Rules, 1978, provides that involve foreign exchange. On the other hand each executive authority of any local we are exporting beedis now and we are body such as Municipality, District getting-I could not get the figure-foreign Board, Panchayat Boards, Block Deve- excbange also. We are exporting to anum" lopment units, in any State or Union ber of Gulf countries. Territory where pers~ns are engaged in the manufacture of beedis shall prepare This is the poor man's smoke. Of a register of beedi workers residing with- course, this industry causes harm not only in the jurisdiction of that authority. to the smoker but you know the dangers of Instructions have been issued that certi- smoking all0 , but it is a health-hazardous ficates given by local bodies on the industry. Just now many of the numbers basis of the registers maintained by them bave spoken. I find from the statistics should be accepted by the Welfare Fund given to me that nearly 25% of the organisation for providing welfare Labourers are suffering from one disease or facilities .. , the otber, particularly, tbe TB disease among the workers engaged in this industry. This This is one of the answers given by the is tbe position of the industry. Government. Have you checked up this with Municipalities or local bodies or Corpora- The main object of this BiU is to elimi- tions? Do you think that they are maintain. nate exploitation. It is unfortunate that even ing registers of beedi workers? I myself was after 38 years of independence ,he Gavern- connected With one of the Corporations, the ment has Dot been able to eliminate this Bangalore Corporation for more than a exploitation. There are laws, even DOW there decade; I was also Mayor there. To my are laws an j of course, this responsibility knowledge nowhere are they maintaining for implementation of the laws is on State such registers. I do not know; it is perhaps Government. practised more in breach than in observance. I would like to draw the attention of the To my knowledge they are not maintaining. hOD. Minister to one or two rules framed That is why, it is all the more necessary that under one of the relevanl Acts. Rule 48 of you accept this Amendment which has been brought forward. the Boedi Workers' Welfare Fund Rules 1978 provides that the owner of any establish- ment, factory or contractor engaged in the I understand that by way of income-tax manufacture of beedis shan issue to every the beedi industry people are giving more employee an identity card. I would like to than Rs. 100 crores. But you would have know from the bon. Minister whether he get more than Rs. 1000 crores if there was no tax evasion. bas checked up aDY where and whether he bas fouad in bow many places this identity card hal been issued. Do you know what happens in the beedi indu~try? Mr. Amal Datta explained in the In my own constituency there are more morning. The manufacturer gets the tobacco than sao slums and in most of the slums leaves, the material required, and gives them the alum-dweUers are engaged in manufacture to the workers in the morning; the workers of bcedil. ADd you do not find even a work on that from 6.00 a.m. to 9.00 p.m.; siqle card with any of those slumdweUers; the entire family works there; the manu- partiCUlarlY, most of tho women who are facturer comes in the night and takes away CID,...t iD tllia work are l'wtld WOIMD. an tho manufactured 10ods. He pays to 32S B~edl aItd el,a,. Workers CHAITRA 21, 1908 (S.4K.4) (Condit/OM of Btnp'-7me",) 326 Amdl. Bill the workers very Dominal wages, not even They do not have security. Many of the the minimum wages, but he makes a lot of Bee(ii workers in their life time have remai- profit.' ned as Beedi workers without any security. Wha tever the contractor or the manufacturer Many of these beedi manufacturers are gives, they should accept. Otherwise tbey t~e manufacturers; they are not registered; may be thrown out of their jobs. That is they do not have the licence. At times they how they are being exploited. sell their products in the name of well known brands. If there is any tax evasion in our country, to a great extent, it is in this indus- I agree with what Hon. Member Shri try, the beedi industry and Government has PatH said that the Hon. Minister Mr. not been able to do anything in this matter. Sangrna should give encouragement for the Hundreds of crores of rupees are being establishment of Beedi workers Cooperative evaded by this industry. Societies. In 1982 there was a Committee headed by Mr. Panikar and he has given a Exploitation of labour is the maximum report wherein he has suggested that nearly in this industry. The minimum wages are five lakh workers can be brought under c0- not paid. Many hone Members have made operatives. They have done in some states like this point; I do not want to repeat. There Karnataka and Kerala on an experimental is lot of exploitation. Even regular licenced basis. The Government should take the initia- people and organisations do not pay the tive and see that Beedi workers cooperatives minimum wages. Another thing is contract are established. Sir, you should not stand labour. That also has been mentioned. on prestige. You accept thi. amendment; otherwise this will be an anti.labour and an More dangerous than this, or even in- anti-b oman attitude. Even though it is human, is engagement of child labour in this brought by an opposition member and as a industry. The children are not sent to school non-official amendment, don't stand on pre- but are made to work. If there i& child stige and please accept this. Very soon, labour exploitation, it is in two industries- during the current session itself, please bring one is the match ind ustry and the other is a comprehensive bill and we will all give the beedi industry. Children are exploited in support. this industry. Child labour must be abolished. Coming to welfare measures, many hon. You are a young man, even the COm- Members have already spoken. Even the cess munist members have paid complimcnts to money you are colJecting, you are not spen· you, you should desrve that. I also compli- ding fully on labourers or workers. There is ment you, provided you are bringing a COm- a specific cess on beedi. Whatever figures are prehensive Bill. It is high time that tho being quoted by me have been given by the labour in all the sectors should be protected. ' Government; I am quoting froal your own Thc security of the labourers is very impor- answers. In 1982-83 the excise duty collected tant and the welfare of the workers is equally was Rs. 120.94 crore, and the cess collected important. was Rs. 3.20 crores. In 1983-84, the excise collected was Rs. 129.36 crores and the cess With these words, I support the amend- collected was Rs. 3.46 crores; in 1984-85 the ment. excise collected was Rs. 128.29 crores and the cess collected was Rs. 3.45 croccs. MR. CHAIRMAN : Wore I caD Sbri Out of this cess co11ceted, you have given Girdhari Lal Vyas to speak, I must tell the the break-up as administration, health, House that the time allotted for this Bill is education, recreation etc. But I have given expiring at 5 0' clock. There are four to five only tbe total figures. Even out of Rs. 3.45 more members to speak and then the erores which you have collected in 1984-85, Minister will intenene. After that the mover you have spent only Rs. 2.12 crores on the has to reply. So, for the present we wDI welfare of tho workers. extend the timo by 45 minutes. 327 Be«ii and Cigar Workers APRIL 17. 198:J (Co!lditioru of EmploytMnt) 328 Amdt. Bill SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): so that their health is looked after pro- 4S minutes will not do. perly.. Welfare activities like providing dispensary and hospitals have not been MR. CHAIRMAN: We want to finish it started for bidi workers as has been done today. Initially we shall extend it by 45 for workers engaged in mica mines. So, minutes and later we win see. Is it the such activities should be taken up effec- pleasure of the House tbat the time be tively. extended by 4S minutes? No arrangement has been made to ensure SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes whether the workers, who manufacture bidis are actually working in the factory premises. MR. CHAIRMAN: The time is extended at home or under contract labour. and by 4S minutes. I request the Members to be whether they get minimum wages or not. brief. There are a number of such employers who [Translation] gobble up the entire wages. What measures are you going to take in this regard? Proper SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS arrangement should be made in regard to (Bhilwara) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support the payment of wages and the minimum and welcome the Bidi and Cigar Workers wages so that the problem of bidi workers (Conditions of Employment) Amendment BiJl is solved. There is need to make this introduced by Shri Ajit Kumar Saha. But the arrangement in a proper way. The workers provisions of the Bill are Dot sufficient who work in the factorYI get the wages enough so as to solve the problems of all without any difficulty but it is not so in the bidi workers. I WOUld. therefore, request case of those workers whd work a t home or the hOD. Labour Minister to bring a com- work under contract labour. We will have prehensive Bill in this House for solving to make some provision so as to brina all the problems of the bidi workers. these workers under tbis act. In this way they win be able to enjoy facilities like others. Unless this is done, they cannot be I would like to convey my thanks to tbe freed from the clutches of contractors and hon. Labour Minister and the Central given the wages which they sbould have Government that in recent years some Bills got. have been brought forward for the welfare of bidi workers a01 some welfare activities are Dot sufficient to the eXtent they should It bas been mentioned in the Statement have been. The bidi workers afe still of Objects and Reasons of the Bill that unorganised. The entire amount accrued about SO lakh people are engaged in this from cess on bidis is meant for being spent work in the country. At least five members on them but you are saving some amount of each family are working. Actually the from that. I do not understand the purpose number of persons who are engaged in this behind it. Actually what should have been work is more when put together with the done is to increase the welfare activities to family members of the bidi workers. The the extent possible and the main complaints number which has beell men tioned pertains in regard to tile health, I ivinS standard, hous- to male and female workers. The number ing facilities etc. for the workers should be of their family members who are engaged in looked into propecly. Just now the hOD. this work is higher. It is not fair t bat no Members have stated that more than 25 per proper prOvision has been made byi your cent of the bidi workers get aftljcted with department for this industry in wh cb a T. B. You have not made any provision large number of persons are engaged. The for hospital or dispensary at any place for hone Mjnister should take urgent measures them. Although in a number of States to solve the problems of these workers at like Rajasthan, welfare activities in this tbe carliest. The hOD. Member belonling regard are going on, yet for the main prob- to the Communist Party, while speak ing on lem like T.B., no provision has been made. the child labour. had stated that the tiDlers Facilities like dispensary should be provided of chi Idren being soft are luhablc for in those areas where workers live in majority makios sood quality bidia. The child labour 329 Seed; and Cigar Workers CHAITRA 21, 1908 (SAKA) (CondiU01U of Employment) 330 Amdt. Bill is engaged in large Dumber in tbis job when produce a given resUlt for the employer on the other hand there is provision to pro- by executing the work through contract vide them educati on and not to engage them labour or who supplies contract labour on such work. You very well know the for any work in connection with a economic condition through which the manufactur ing process or who engages people are passing and in what way the labour for any manufacturing process in poor people are doing the job. If their a private dwelling hOllle and includes a children are not allowed to do this job, the sub-contractor, sattedar, agent, munshi, whole family will starve to death. So thekedar or the like." they work under compulsion. Actually their is no harm in doing this work but proper [Translation J arrangement for facilities like punctuality of work, education. wages etc. should be made This definition should form an indispensable so that the children, who are engaged in this part of the proposed Act so that tbe actual work, may be able to enjoy such facilitics. employer can be held responsible for the These provisions are very essential and they work taken by the contractor on his behalf should be implemented also. and consequently entire facilities are made available to the bidi or cigar workers Besides, there is no provision for social through the contractor. It is essential to security. The employer can get offended any make such provision. time and sack the workers. There is no provision to help the worker in retaining his Therefore, various terms incorporated in job by taking up the matter with some the Bill should be defined in such a way as authority. Because the Industrial Disputes may aJtord relief to the entire community Act is applicable only to factorics. The of bim workers. It has been stated in the other workers cannot take advantage of it. Act: So there is need to adopt measures to imple- [EtwlUh] ment these provisions in their case also. I would also like to make a submission "(ii) for clause (f), the following clause that welfare activities should be launched shall be substituted, namely :- for the bidi workers also. Efforts should be "(f) 'employee' means any person who made to organise them. At present these is employed for wages of any kind to do workers are uDorganised. Of course some any kind of work, manual or otherwise workers have formed trade unions but the in or in connection with the manufactur.. trade unions of those employees. who are ing process of beedi or cigar or both of working at different places, do not have an establishment and who gets bis wages such force as the organised unions have. directly or indirectly from the employer There should be provision of trade union for and includes any person employed by these workers, cooperative societies should be or through a contractor in or in con- formed for undertaking welfare activities for nection with any manufacturing process them. If the workers become their members, of beedi, Cigar or both and also the work of manufacturing bidis can be includes :- speeded up. Provision should be made to make all the benefits of labour Acts avail- (a) any person who is given raw able to them. The spirit behind this Bill, materials by an employer or a contractor tbat has been brought, ;s commendable. The for being made into beedi or cigar or defin ition of the contractor made therein is both at home (hereinafter referred to in also welcome. Section 2 (d) says: this Act as 'home worker') and [english] (b) any person not employed by ID employer or contractor but working with "(d) 'contractor means a person, who in the permission of or under agreement relation to a manufacturing process of with. the employer or contractor or beedi or cigar or both undertakes to both." 331 Beedi and Cigar Workers APR.-IL 17, 1986 (Conditlo1l3 of Employment) 332 A.rndt. Bill [Shri Girdhari Lal VyarJ Therefore, all the bidi manufacturers should [Translation] be brought within tho purview of the defini- tion so that they do not indulge in malprac- Therefore., the definition of 'employee' tices. should be further modified so that everybody can be included in it, whether one is a Clause 2 (vi) states : worker at a factory or working under a contractor or is manufacturing bid is at [English] home. Besides, there is need to make such a provision in the definition so as to enable For clause (n), the following shall be sub- them to get equal benefits. The Government stituted namely :- sbold take early steps in this directioD. "~en) 'private dwelling house' means a I would like to make a submission regar- house in which contract labour engaged ding clause 2 (v) wherein it is stated: by a contractor on behalf of the princi- [English] pal employer or by the principal employer himself for manufacturing For clause (m) I the following clause shall of bidi or cigar or both reside. t, be substituted namely :- U(m) 'principal employer' means a [Translation] person for whom or on whose behalf contractor engages or employs any con- Besides -this, the persons who manufacture tract labour in an establishment for bidi at home should also be brought within which licence under sections 3 and 4 of the purview of this definition in order to this Act has been issued for manufac. enable them to avail of the benefits and turing of beedi or cigar or both". facilities that are at present only available to the licenced manufacturers. A provision [Translation] to this effect should be immediately made. The definition of 'princiral employer' should be specific because many a times it has Unless we make adequate provisions or been observed that they refuse to own an try to improve the things, we cannot safe- employee on the plea that they do not have guard the interests of workers. Mr. Chair- Sir, I would like to submit to the hone any direct dealing with hi ffi. Therefore, man, provision should be made to make the Minister through you., to impress upon all principal employer responsible for every- the Inspectors of the labour department to thing, even if the work ha~ been carried out find out the places where bidi is manufac- through a contractor or any other agency. tured and how many people are engaged It is only then, that the workers can get all therein. They should also enquire whether the facilities. the workers are getting minimum wages and whether there are any cases of non-payment There is also need to issue licences to of wages or delay in this regard. If such bidi manufacturers. Otherwise anybody can a system can be ensured with the help of start manufacturing bidis and the labour Inspectors, then we can provide them justice department will not know about it. There- and would have done OUI duty to them. fore. it should be made obligatory for the Where the Central Inspectors are not avail- bidi manufacturers or their agents or Con- able, efforts should be made to implement tractors to get the licence. If they are not the system through the State Government. forced to get licence how will your depart- There are hundreds of Inspectors in the ment keep a record of the number of bidi labour department of each State. Anyone manufacturers. The Government wi 11 also of them can be posted in the arca where find it difficult )a ter on to realise cess or bid i making is undertaken in order to excise duty because there are number of implement the provisions properly. It is manufacturers who wish to evade it. The only then that we can do justice to the Govcmment is thus deprived of its revenuc. unorpnised bidi workers. 333 B~«li and Cigar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions oj Employment) 334 Amdt. Bill It is sad that most of the officials in the evidence. What is this? I have rea]]y not labour department only look after the foUowed it. interests of the capitalists. I would urge [Trans/ati on] them that they should not only safeguard the interests of the capitalic;ts but also those This is the type of legislation. It is true of the workers. Therefore, they should that you are new but the laws was framed change their attitude in this regard. in 1966. Kindly see how it can be enforced. I would like to know how many employers There are many Jrregularities in respect have been put behind the bar during the of Provident Fund and ESIS. It clearly past three years for violating these laws? indicates the extent of ineffectiveness and ..... (Interruptions) Shri Manoranjan ji height of irresponsibility on the part of the has worked for the welfare of bidi workers .. labollr department. I. therefore, request you, and has long experience in that field but I Sir, to provide ample powers to the labour have never seen a bidi in his pocket. Hon. department so that the workers get maximum Minister, Sir, eminent lawyers, former benefit, their problems are resolved and Ministers and Speakers are sitting next to they get justice. you and you may ask them the justification of this law. It needs to be amended imme- I appreciate the sentiments behind this diately. Why does the law provide for Bill, but as I said earlier that as its objec- exemption under section 4 j wherein it is tive is very limited, the hone Labour stated that : Minister should bring forth a more compre- [English] hensive Bill in this regard for the welfare of workers engaged in bidi industrY. 'CThe State Government may by notifica- tion in the Official Gazette exempt sub- With these words, I thank you and ject to such conditions and restrictions as conclude. it may impose, any class of industrial premises or c1ass of employers or em- SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (PalO: ployees from all or any of the provisions Hon. Chairman, Sir, We should never expect of this Act ...... · the Labour department to implement the labour laws. It is a false hope because it [Translation] only believes in farming laws. Had the hone Member, who introduced this Bill, ventured What is the use of this s~ction 41 after to go in greater detail. he would have found all 1 Could you kindly mak~ me under- that such provisions are already there. The stand. Another section of the Act States labour department knows how to frame that the Inspector will not receive any laws but knows not how to enforce them. evidence \\ hich may tend to incriminate Everywhere there is Inspector Raj. The him. inspector pockets the entire money. He can never enforce the laws. One shouJd [Eng/uh] try to know the reasons behind this. What It is mentioned in the Act that no per- does he get after all? A paltry sum as son shall be compelled to answer any salary. For that matter, take any Inspector questions. Section 7 (I) (a) of the Act says whether he is Holiday Inspector or Weights that the Inspector .. and Measures Inspector,. they JUSt pocket the regular payments made to them by the 'Cmay make such examination and hold factory-owners and turn a blind eye to the such inquiry as may be necessary for whole affair. You have to see the extent of ascertaining whether the provisions of power vested in thsse Inspectors. This needs this Act have been or are being complied to be looked into. with in any place or premises : Provided that no person shall be [English] compelled under this section to answer Inspector will use assistants! He will any question or to give any evidence use power. He cannot compel them to live which may tend to incriminate himself:' 335 Beedi a1Ul el,tIl' Work.s APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions of EmploYrMnt) 336 Amdt. Bill They use the words, "which may tend to [81v' MODI Chand Daga] incriminate himself. " Is the Inspector like a Station House Officer at the police station? should be made for mate and female Why can't he ask the person or compel him workers. This law has become obsolete to produce the register, saying that he wants now. to see it? You say that the person cannot [English] be compelled t9 produce any register, etc. "The competent authority shall not grant Section 7 (I) (c) says that the Inspector or renew a licence unless it is satisfied may: that the provisions of this Act and the rules made thereunder have been sub- "enter with such assistants as he stan tially compl ied with." thinks fit, at all times any pJace or prer;nises .. ' , [TrallSlalion] [Trans/at iOll ] Now I would ]ike to know the number of licences cancelled by you. No senior Such are the provisions in this law. The officer goes to that place. Neither does the Inspector is interested in pocketing regular Chief.. Inspector go. In my view, all these payments made to him in lieu of reporting to labour laws are meant only for being pre- authorities that everything is going on served in the books. You have placed smoothly. In my area ...... your laws in the almirha in the same manner as the Ramayna is kept for an AN BON. MEMBER: Tbis is just to ornamental tell me how meet their sundry expenses. purp.se. You many persons were booked for the infring- SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: This ment of laws. practic~ has started there as well. I dare say, that Sangma Sahib did not have a Nowadays, even the bidi manufacturers give donations for the elections. You chance so far of meeting a bidi worker. coHect donations which consist of the money He is a new Minister. His predecessors also accumulated after exploitation of the poor. never bothered to meet and talk to bidi It is a terrible blow to our social set up. workers. This type of thing does not behave a wel- AN HON. MEMBER: Anjiah Sahib fare State. There is no such law as to has talked to them. punish a person who does not pay even mlnunum wages. Do the workers of bidi SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: We industry get minimum wages. Have you know of Anjiah Sahib. Kindly tell me who ever tried to find out that this Act of yours has gone and talked to bidi workers. The was enacted in 1966. In my view, it was people there mortgage their children. The the time when Sbri Sangama was born. I father says: HI hereJy mortaae my child. would )ike to inform Sbri Sangama that this Pay me Rs. 2JO per annum:' issue involves fifty lakh workers engaged in the bidi industry. This is the question of tbe Today, we are discussing a matter of exploitation of tbose womeD, of those grave concern. I would like to know how mothers who live in a welfare State. maDY people have been coDvicted? It is stated that: Our Planning Minister, who talks very nice thinp, it sitting here. He tells that [Elrglish] very good very plans are being made but be does know that these plans are confined to He sball produce a plan. paper onlY. You will hate seeing the bidi workerl. They don't have clothes on their [TrtllUllltloII 1 body and remain bare.footed. Their wives There is DO proper ventilatiOD at the work have no banJles OD the wrists and they work places. Bven the sanitary conditions are like labourers. They can't talk with their DOt 1000. Sometimes SO workers bave to beads hiah. Kumari Mamata has dabtly use the same toilet. Separate arranpaaoots said only the wearer knows where the sboe 337 Beedl and Cigar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions of Employment) 338 Amdt. Bill pinches. You teU me how many their advice. There is a welfare board. inspectors have you ~uspended. How many bidi workers are the members of this board? How many of them are called [English] to check the bidi welfare cess amount and the activities undertaken with that amount? Whether you have suspended one Ins- How many houses have been built and pector or a Chief Inspector or a Labour allotted? Where do the workers live '1 Officer or a competent authority who has In this law you have mentioned tbat a bidi given a wrong licence. worker can work f0r nine hours. You make [TranJ/ation] a provision that a bidi worker shall work for nine hours a day. You live in beautiful bungalows, but the labourers are allotted very shabby houses to Mr. Speaker, Sir, I feel obliged to you for live in. And then you allot them houses in giving me time to speak. But this law is very that street of Delhi which Mr. Bhardwaj old and gives powers only to Inspectors and chief would never have visited. That is why there Inspector. \\'hat are the emolument of an is a glow on his face. Inspector under law? Only Rs. 1000 and then he requires scooter and T.V. set; be, therefore, In the relevant existing law, there are the earns Rs. 4,000 to 5,000 per month. These requirements of a plan, ventilation, latrines, Ministers earn less but the Inspector makes urinals and cold water; and you have to more money. His wife wears a saree worth provide the money. Now you say that you Rs. 1,0;:'0 and your wife wears a saree worth don't have the authority but you must have Rs. 225. You are no match to bim. You though about it earlier when you made this have given these Inspectors all the power. All Jaw because only that law is good which this money which is spent on these Ins- can be applied and without application, a pectors, Boards and Committees goes waste. law is useless. Look at the exemption Therefore, change this Act and if you cannot, clause and I shall repeat it as the Labour then you can refer it to the Law Minister, Minister has now come. What is this law sitting besides you, suggestions. He has that says that you can't compel him for just made up his mind to change this act giving evidence. From where it has been I express my thanks for the same and also appended to the law. Have you ever seen thank you, Mr. Speaker, Cor when you this law where the Government can exempt come .... some person. I ask the Labour Minister how long this Inspector-rule will continue. ~1R. CHA..IRMAN : You get more time to speak. [English] SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: It is This is what the section is : not about time, Sir. You listen with great patience and always wear a smile. Other- "No person shalJ be compelled under \\-ise. others ring the ben too soon and con- tbis section to answer any question or to sequently we have to finish our speech. give any evidence which may tcnd to incriminate himself... ,t [ English] [TraM/a/ion] DR. DATTA S~MANT (Bombay South Let us say for a while tha t be can say Central): In the the last one-aod-a-half that there is no compulsiOti for you to give years I have been hearing in this House any statement. Then what remains there such speeches rarely. But I totally agree for an inspector to do? J request you to witb Mr. Daga. I want to ask whether this repeat this Act. You should positive1y Government is really interested to do any- change this Bidi Workers Act and kindJy thing or something somewhere at least for do it before the Budget Session is over. It t he poor classes and un organised labour in contains a few clauses. The high ranking this country. I have said in this House officers of the Labonr Department call the many a time that farm labour is four to big capitalists and, talk to them and take five crores and sugarcane, tea, coffee labour, 339 Beedi and Cigar Workers APRIL 17, 1986 (ConditiolU of EmploY1Mnt) 340 Amdl. Bill [D,. Dattll Sawum/] you talk: about this in your party" Mr. Daga. tbey are all profit earning labour. For It is DO use talking about or blaming the them, 8re you doing something? But nobody individual. is interested in doing anything for them. There are 1.1 crore power loom and hand- Sir, I now come to the point. Are loom workers, ~o lakhs bidi workers, 70 there any Minimum Wage Inspectors? to 80 lakhs stone breaking and building Nobody is there. Why are you talking construction workers. three to four lakhs about that? Who is going to check? The buffalo looking after labour and then there Factory Inspector is assigned this work but are hospital and small dispensary workers. for ten thousand factories there is one All such sections of the workers are given Factory Inspector. What are you talking? a paltry wage and' they are all living below There is nobody to look after such type of the poverty Ii nee workers. It is really a serious calamity that nobody is interested to look after such You are talking of modernisation, new workers' cause. Regarding beedi workers. technology and 21st century, but poverty please don't leave the things to the unions. will never improve with the same propor- Do you mean that the unions can Jook tion as your modernisation and new afte r these 50, lakh workers? What for is technology. For that it is higb time ..... the Government there? I am asking a direct (Illterruptions) . question. It is not the unions' work Don't leave it to unions. They are giving w~rk ior THE MINISTER OF STA TE OF home to five workers, ten workers, THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI P.A. six workers on contract. Who is SANGMA): Have you ever tried to going to look after this'? It is the duty of organise this unorganised sector? the Government which has taken the vow of DR. DATTA SAMANT: Yes, I am removing the poverty. It is there duty. coming to that. I have got stone-breaking They have miserably failed, and I am going workers for your information. In Bombay to accuse this Government that they arc and Thana, 50,000 stone-breaking workers not interested in this. I tell you in Nagpur are getting Rs. 2.000 as salary, and the we organised-not my union but the left lady worker is getting Rs. 1.000 as salary. parties the beedi workers; strike. I just I think you should visit Bombay. went to give a lecture in Nagpur. In Nagpur I have no union. What happened? SHRI P. A. SANGMA : I am happy. For three months the strike went OD. Can a DR. DATTA SAMANT: Then the man drawing Rs. 4 or Rs. S go on strike? tabela workers are looking after the buffa- Are we happy about this? Nobody is happy loes. Those who are in my union, are about the strike. No trade union leader. getting Rs. 800 as salary-all the 40.000 But that is the ultimate weapon. Helplessly from U. P.-when the minimum wage of the we have to take it. What happened? About Maharashtra Government is Rs. 225. one lakh workers were there. They were Because they are in my union, they are starving. Then we approached the Chief getting bonus, they are getting provident Minister, late Vasant Rao Naik. He said. fund. But in Bombay. where your Labour "Dr. what to do? All these employers are Commissioner" s office is only two miles getting workers from Madhya Pradesh from there, tbey are not looking after them. border at Rs. 3 per day. So, I cannot do I have lot lakhs of workers in small sections anything. You just go the employers. call who are looking after the petrol pumps. on them, worship them and say come here laundries and all those things, aod because and start working bere," I am asking the of the pressure. the employers are prepared Labour Minister what is this. You are to give these things to them But if you getting the labour at Rs. 3 there. Even for just go beyond Bombay, all your stone-break- Re. one you wi)) get the labour because this ing workers are not getting more than is the child labour. this is the widow Il.s. 4 or Rs. S and they are working for labour, this the lady labour. Five crores are 12 hours a day. Nobody is taking interest. unemployed. In every house in every And 1 am lure, Mr. Daga is blaming you village the poverty is so much that you will but ultimately he is with the party. Wby don't get the labour even for Rs. t .50. What is 341 Beedi and Cigar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (ConditiolLf 0/ Employment) 342 Amdl. Bill this Government doing') Are they really pIe, that so much should be liVeD to the interested to check it? They can do a simple workmen? There is no sucb Jaw. Premier thing. Don't leave it to union, whether it is and Firestone are playing in crores. Nobody INTUC or others. It is the dUlY of the is showing you the correct accounts. There Government to look after these crores of is Rs. 40,000 of black money because of workers. I will suggest you something. No these people's black deeds. You are ~ Act is applicable to them# The Factory Act ing them upto 90 per cent from the publiC is not applicable because 20 workers are not financial in~titutions. The banks have issued there, the Bonus Act is not applic'lble Rs. 4,000 erOles making the units sick. It is because 20 workers are not there. Not a not because of wage. The wage is 10 or IS single permanent worker is there. Nobody per cent. Who is giving? I am categorically is issuing the card, at least in Maharastttra. taking the Minister to Bombay. They are What is the Government doing? Not a prepared to give wage. Sir. 3.. 000 or 4.000 single card they are giving to the beedi rupees the sweeper can draw and the workers. What are their offi:ers doing? company can afford to pay. Is there any Cant't the Government do one thing? They law? You don't pay. Let us go to the should just issue a six-page booklet certified Delhi Industrial Court. You teU me what by the Government's Labour Department are the wage records of the workers as in the vernacular and let it be with the approved by this court. You will not find labour. Can·t they do such a simple thing? even 2 or 3 per cent. You say, all laws are He has to mark his attendance and get the there. Organised labour is there. You go payment every week. Let it be piece-rate. I 10 times. For beedi workers you go. You k now whatever I talk, they are not going to will get a decision after 10 years or IS give them anything. But I have to talk with years. By that time the labour will go to limitation because I have seen the Govern- heaven and you will die. This is the type of ment's pulse as far as the labour and the the fate of labour in \h~s country. 50% of working class is concerned. Let them issue labour of this country are in casual, badli, the card and then the Government should training, apprentice, etc. I will take the check it. And while implementing this thing, Minister. Let us see the position all over tbe register should be maintained in the the country. What is your Contract Labour Labour Commissioner's office. After work- (Abolition) Act? Sweet name you are talk- ing for ten years, what will the unions do'? ing ! Is there any provision to make the We cannot do strike because they are poor contract labour permanent in that Act? Is workers. If I go to the Labour Commis- there any provision that in a particular sioner or to the Industrial Court, the factory, if 10,000 workers are there or 1,000 employer says he is not my labour. He says workers are there, how many should be in so because tbere is no record. Either there contract, badli, trainee. etc? He can go on is no proof or he is keeping the proof with with 1,000 workers as contract labour. You him. This is such a serious thing and the go to F..lridabad. 60% of labour is working Government is not prepared to do such a on contract. Forget about the smaIJ, .Petty, simple thing. Are they getting bonus? There mofussil places. Is there any such law? You is no bonus (or thenl. Are they getting talk of Contract Labour (Abolition) Act. gratuity? There is no gratuity for them. 25 20 people should be there for registration. per cent of these people arc suffering from They employ 1 S people for 20 contracts like chest disease or cancer. Is anybody going Mukund Iron. I am not talking about to look after tbem? Nobody is bothered. individuals. In Bombay such things arc (Interruption) And if such small things are happening. If the contract labour is implemented in respect of beedi labour, the removed, is there any provision that you Government will be able to do lot of things. can go to the court for reinstatement and In this House I have mentioned thiS and I all that'? In this country now fO to 25 per will have to mention this again. You reply. cent labour is contract labour. The popula- I am asking the han. Minister and all the tion is increasing. There is lot of unemploy. ... Treasury Benches. Is there any single law? ment. With modernisation the peop. are The employer has made some particular thrown out. All these employers are IOina profit. Is there any law, any salient princi.. to exploit all these tbousands and crores of 343 Budi and Ci,ar Workerl APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ Employment) 344 Arndt. Bill [Dr. Datta Samant] ment directive was there to break the strike. For 6 miles there was 144 section. Is tbis masses. What is the Government planning your attitude? for the future? You are talking of moder- nisation. In Bombay, the employers are Though the mill owners have exploited closing the mills. They are not paying the the workers for 100 years, the Government electric bills. Take Srinivas Cotton Mill and the union acted hand in hand with the and WG Mill. I have got 20 or 3:.; 'factories. mill owners to break the strike. The workers We are not on strike. The employers are were on strike for two years and two-and- elosing the factories. We are agitating. a-half lakh workers have been suffering for The Government is sleeping over it. Take bundred years. The INTUC unions are Sarabhai's calico chemicals. I have got totally working band in glove with the 50,000 workers. There is no workers agita- Government. There are a Dumber of miIls tian. But the employer is taking the subsidy which were closed prior to the strike also. of the Government and going to backward The industry is not sick, but the employers places and again they will start with 5 or have made it sick. Rs. I SOO crores of 10 rupees there. Is there any policy of this Government money is lost in the textile Government to look after the interest of industry in the country. The business the workmen? You are talking of technology magnates have made the industry sick. and modernisation and improvement. Is your economy considering any further step The Government has given a concession regarding workers? You will have to do in the import of terrycot yarn and Rs. 130 something. It is your obligation. I am in crores are lost in the excise reven ue on the Delhi. Number of people are coming to pretext that cheap cloth will be given to the me. In your hotels, what are the salaries people. The Textiles Minister went to paid? What are the working hours? Various Bombay to garland the Century Mill owner shops and other things are there. Even and the price of the cloth bas gone by 10 graduates are not getting Rs. 70J or Rs. per cent in spite of getting concessions. 800. What is your provision? Can they go This way they are exploiting the Govern- to the court? You are giv ing how much ment and the people. You are adopting the subsidy? You are giving how much American economy·modernisation and assistance to these employers? Regarding technology. But will the poverty go out the working class, what is the population? proportionately? Unless you make some Sir, 30% to 35% population all over the proper distribution of this wealth, poverty country is now the working class and there· cannot be eliminated. For 2.1/2 years this fore no Government can keep silent. It is Government has been silently sleeping your fortune that workers don't understand over the economic problems of labour. the economic issues. They have been I t is your duty and it is not misled by the pOlitical parties on the the union's job to solve the economic provincial or religious or all these issues problems of labour. The previous Minister aDd thougb they are dying, they think was telling that all laws should be amended. that because of union, we will be able to Very sweet words; Me. Anjiah saId that get this. Regarding Bombay textile people, many of the things which Dr. Samant said what you have done for them? Beedi are correct and he also said that he would factory owners are there. If you have not bring a comprehensive legislation. But implemented Central Acts, at least you one-aad.a-haJf years have passed and prosecute some. I am not interested in nothing has been done. I think the other $ending anybody to the jail. But nobody is day the Minister said in Calcutta that there there to ask you because you have no should be a comprehensive legislation in desire to implement any law. There was respect of all Jabour matters. But nothing has tb e biggest textile strike in Bombay. How been done. Because of the present labour much law was implemented? 40 of rry laws the workers are made helpless and they activists went under the National Security are forced to go to the court and just pass the Act. There were 5,000 of my people. time. The court cases are generally delayed for Section 151 was amended for that. Govern- S years. They have to pay to the advocate 345 Beedi and Cigar Workers CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) (Conditions 0/ Employment) 345 Arndt. Bill also and the workers are put to great dlffi.. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, there will culties. Do you think that a worker can pay be no further extension after this. That also so much of fees to the advocate after going you have to say now. to the court? You cannot blame the unions for this. Therefore, I say that such types [;'R. DATT A SAMANT: They never of laws are not going to help. There should say 'extension'. be a basic change in the policy of the Government. It is the fundamental duty of PROF. p.J. KURIEN: My Bill also the Government to look after the share of the should come. workmen and if they do not do that, I AN HON. MEMBER: I am support- don't think the working class is going to ing you. remain quiet. The workmen feel that their economic problems are not the business of ( Interruptions). the party, and the parties are also busy with provincial and religious affairs. Even the (Translation] State Governments are also equally responsible for this state of affairs. I am SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV asking the hon. Member from West Bengal (Morena) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Bidi and that if they can look after the affairs pro- Cigar workers (Conditions of Service) perly, they can solve SO per cent of the Amendment Bill deserves to be welcomed. problems of labour. I have seen that in Mah'lrashtra al~o the same thing is happen- Crores of people are engaged in Bidi ing, the State Government is not interested and Cigar industry but they do not get more in those affairs. Similar is the case with than Rs. S or 6 per day_ When the raw Karnataka and others, nobody is interested material for bidi, i.e., tobacco is not availa- in the labour legislation. ble with the fJ.ctory-owners, the workers are without work for five to ten days. As a With these words, I thank you for result of this, their average wage is reduced giving me the opportu nity to spe k. to Rs. 3 per day. Because of such low 17.50 hrs. wages the bidi workers are forced to Jive in [SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM in the jhuggis or mud houses. I would like to suggest that residential accommodation may Chair] be provided to these workers in order to MR. CHAIRMAN: I put it to the enable them to earn their livelihood House: properly. Shall we extend the time for discussion Besidl!s ;, I wO!.lId like to submit that on this? If so, by how much time? Shall mlOY snull .:hildren are also engaged in bidi we extend it by two hours? making and they remain sick because of the foul smell of tobacco. These children SOME HON. MEMBERS; By one hour. are also deprived of education. I would suggest that Government should provide PROF. P.J, KURIEN (Idukki): My scholar ships to the~e children in order to Bill is there. Don ~t extend the time for it. carr)' on their studies and it should also impose a ban on the employment of sm~l MR. CHAIRMAN : For the time being children in bidi indu,try. If the Government let us extend it by one hour. agrees to it, this problem can be resolved. PROF. P.J. KURIBN : Already exten- I also want to subrnit that the wages of ded. Don't extend it further now. bidi workers may be raisl'd so that they can make their both ends m ~et. Ma. CHAIRMAN: Today this is up to 6o"Clock. At 6 o"C)ol.:k we win be taking With these words, I would like to urge up Half-an-Hour discussion. I wOlild now the bon. Member who has introduced this call Mr. Kammodilal Jatav to speak. Bill to withdraw it. 347 Be~di and Cila1' Work,rs APRIL 17, 1986 (Conditions 0/ Employment) 348 .4.mdt. Bill SHRI DAL CHANDER JAIN (Damoh): cuI ate. I would like to cit. the example of Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to oppose the Madhya Pradesh in this regard. The Bidi Bill which seeks to amend Bidi and Cigar manufacturers of Madhya Pradesh gave a workers Act, because I feel that this Act, suggestion to the State Government that which was enacted in 1966 is adequate in they are ready to pay 1/20th part of weekly itself. The Act envisages that a bidi worker, wages to the workers in lieu of annual would be treated as an employee of a bidi payment for leave with wages and the State factory-owner producing bidis under a Government agreed to it, thereby enabling particular trade mark, irrespective of the tbe workers to benefit in this respect every place where he works, and would be entitled week instead of after one year. Simtlarly, to all those facilities that are available to a Provident Fund scheme was also forced on factory worker. bidi industry but there is still much diffi- culty in enforcing it. In this connection, J The most point is that even now for- would urge the bon. Minister to enforce the mulating laws is a matter of routine while Provident Fund Scheme because the existing nobody is bothered whether these are being Provident Fund schemt! is Dot able to enforced or not. It is unfortunate that we provide much benefit to bldi workers as they merely blame Government officials and are employed sometimes directly and some- Inspectors for this. Criticism is good, but times through contractors. At one time the we should also bear in mind that these worker works with one contractor and at Government officials and Inspectors are also the other, he works elsewhere. Similarly, citizens of. our country and are not aliens. sometime, the contractor works for one The Government cannot do much in this employer and at the other, he works for regard because it is for the enforcement another employer. As bidi is an unor- machinery to enforce the laws framed by ganised industry we should make such laws the Gov~nment and that our own people so that we can safeguard their interests by constitute that machinery; our society is providing them adequate employment. mainly responsible for non-compliance of laws. It is the responsibility of the leaders So far as cess on bidi is concerned, it is to ensure that laws are properly observed sad, that the entire amount that is collected and they benefit those for whom they have from it is not utilised for the welfare of bidi been framed. workers. I would like to suggest that more and more amount should be spent on the I would like to cite an example. The welfare of bidi workers and their children Bidi and Cigar workers Act provides for even if it means levying more cess. Efforts minimum wages to workers, but bidi should be made to ensure that the children industry is uDorganised. It is worth of bidi workers do not take up this work mentioning here, that many bidi workers and are instead encouraged to go to school carry raw m3terial to their homes and bring and pursue their studies. back the finished product. They are helped by their children, wives and other members In the end, I would like to suggest that of tbe family in bidi making. As a result of co-operative societies should be formed in this, a day's work is completed in a matter this industry as well. We generally believe of hours. The consumption of bidi is far in criticizing whatever good is donc. I less than its production. Because of this, would like to urge upon on all those critics aU the workers do not get adequate work. to give constructive suggestions to the If we want to safeguard the interest of Government regarding the way laws in this workers in the real sense, we should pro- respect should be framed and the extent of duce them only that much work which tbey their own contribution in enforcing them. can themselves do. The lot of bidi workers can improve only when Government comes With these words, I conclude and would to their help by way of purchasing whatever like to say that there should be a separate they produce. There is also provision for law to safeguard tbe interests of bidi leave with wages under the Bidi and Cigar workers. It is not only the responsibility of workers Act but it is very difficult to cal- Government machinery alone to enforce 349 H. A. B. DII. CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) H. A. H. Dis. 350 Amdt. Bill these laws, but also of the society which April, 1986 from auxiliary duty of should play an effective role and give its customs in excess of 25 per cent co-operation in this regard. It is only then ad valorem. that society can make progress and bidi workers are benefited. We not only want (4) Notification No. 25~J86-Customs bidi workers but also other workers as well published in Gazette of India dated t~ make progress-whether they are Govern- the 17th April, 1986 together with an ment employees or are employed elesewhere- explanatory memorandum regarding and it should be the responsibility of exemption to soda ash from basic everbody to safeguard everybody else's customs duty in excess of 25 per cent interests. ad valorem. [Placed in Library See No. LT-25/6J86] PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE-CONTD. HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION [English] 10.81 m. Notifica tion under Customs Act Management of Foodgrains by the food THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Corporation of India MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- [English} DHANA POOJARY) : I beg to lay on the Table copy each of the folJowing Notifica- MR. CHAIRMAN: Now we take up tions (Hindi and English versions) under the half-an-hour discussion. section 159 of the Custom's Act, 1962 ;- Kumari Mamata Banerjee. (1) Notification No. 254/86-Customs pubsiJhed in Gazette of India dated KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE (Ja- the 17th April, 1986 together with an davpur): I am really grateful to our hon Spea- explanatory memorandum regarding ker, Dr. Bal Ram Jakhar because be has exemption to sponge iron and hot given me this opportunity to initiate this briquetted iron when imported for discussion. The Food Corporation of India use in intergrated steel plates from basic has lost Rs. 620 crores in five years from customs duty in exess of 5 per cent 198 1-81 to 1984.85 in transit and storage. advolarem and from the whole of the Not only myself from this side but members additional duty of customs leviable from that side also are very much concerned thereon. about the functioning of the Fel. (2) Notification No. 255/86 Customs The Food Corporation of India was set published in Gazette of India up in 1965 with some specific responsibility. dated the 17th April, 1986 together But now what is the condition of this - cor- with an explanatory memoran- poration ? We are all very much concerned dum regarding exemption to because of the mismanagement, loss in tran- hot brjquetted iron (HBl) when im- sit, wastage, corruption and inefficiency of ported by or on behalf of an electric the Food Corporation of India. Millions of are furnace unit from basic custom, people are now suffering due to the negli- duty in excess of 5 per cent advalorem gence of the Fel. and from the whole of the addilional duty of customs leviable thereon. I am really pained to find that when (3) Notification No. 256/86-Customs 35% of our population is now living below published in Gazette of India dated the poverty line, we see thii FCI is wasting the 17th April, 1986 together with an foodgrains. Our Prime Minister emphati- explanatory memorandum regarding cally stated that all public department exemption to goods covered by agencies and the Government undertakings Notification Nos. 2S4/86-Customs should revitalise themselves and they sbould and 2SS/86-Customs dated the 17th take proper action to evolve poverty allcvi- 951 H. A. H. Dis. APRIL 17, 1986 H. A. H. Dis. 352 [Kumari Mamata Banerjee] Food is a bas ic necessity and in view of the new thrust on providing speedy re- ation programmes. Bilt really we are sorry lief to the weaker sections, the Corporation to say that this pel has totally failed to has a special responsibility towards the look after the interests of the commgo society. Members of Parliament are very people. It is the duty of the FCI. It bas much concerned about the procurement emerged over the years as the agency of stage because procurement is a crucial factor procurement, storage, export and distribu- and if appropriate care is not taken, it is tion and handling foodgrains also and it is bound to have an adverse effect. It is the the duty of the Food Corporation to ensure Minister's duty to see that procurement is that the poor people get foodgrains at fair done properly. We are also very much con- price (rom the fair price shops. But we are cerned about the storage and the distribu- sorry to say that not only in my Sta te but tion system. The distribution system is not all ov~r the country people are suffering working well. It is the duty of the Govern- becau'ie it is the PCI's duty to ensure that ment to distribute foodgrains to the poor people get good quality foodgrains. But in people, the tribal people and people belong- every State you can find which type of ing to the weaker sections, but they are foodgrains people are getting. It is bad not getting foodgrains properly. It is the quality foodgrains. Even in my own State duty of the Government to attend to pro- broken rice mixed with stones is sold. Then curement, storage and distribution of food- with regard to kerosene, you do not get grains. There should be surprise-checks and it and if you are prepared to pay a higher proper supervision and speedy action to pri~, it is easily available. Then what is the remove the bottlenecks. need, what is t he necessity to set up this FeI? I have already stated that Government has evolved programmes to help tne needy. Any failure of the Corporati~n set up Food is the most important factor in the by the Central Government must be a matter fight against poverty. If the public distribu- o( concern because people in villages are tion agencies are found wanting, mlny a very mu;h associated with this. So I would welfare project will go away. This has its like to know from the hon Minister. I am own lesson to eonvey. really hopeful and I do hope that this new Minister will take proper steps .... I would like to ask some important questions. We are aware that the Food SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA Corporation of India has the responsibility Also the new Mg. Director of Fer. to supply foodgrains to the Fair Price Shops through the State Governments. But there KUMARI MAMATA BA~ERJEE must be some fixed responsibility as people (Andaman and Nicobar Islands) Yes, the are not concerned whether tbe supply is new Mg. Director. I hope they will take made by the FCI or by the State Govern- proper steps to improve the working of the ment. I know the position in my State, FCL We have to see an efficient FCI, not a I have also discussed with some Delhi corrupt FCI. It is said that ten lakh tonnes people. They are also complaining that for of food grains have been eaten away by rates. about four years they have been fighting I do not know by what type of rats. Is it against supply of bad quality of foodgrains; Fel management rat or anti-social rat or the Food Corporation is supplying this type 'inefficiency rat''l It is people who u\tima.. of foodgrains. In my State you will be tely suffer. It is the duty of the FCI to pro- surprised to know what type of foodgrains tect the interests of the people and not to people are getting; as I have already stated protect themselves. If the management is the people tbere are getting broken rice, rice irresponsible. then the field workers also mixed with stone-pieces. If you go to tbe will be irresponsible. Our Minister should Fair Price Shop on Monday, they will say find out why the Fer is running in losses. that rice is available but wheat is not avai- We are very much concerned about this: lable; and if you go on Wednesday, they not only myselt but every Member or this will say that rice is available but sugar is House is concerned about this. not available; if you on go Friday, they 353 H. A. H. Du. CHAlTR.A 27. 1908 (SAKA) H. A .. H. Du. 354 wiD say tbat wheat is available but rice is are not interested for the CO:ll1DlOll people. DOt available. If rice, wheat and supr are They are trying to malaigo our Government. not available. then where is me need to So. it is the duty of the Minister to look have these Fair Price Shops ? In my State after all these things and to ta1ce proper we have given so many complaints to our action. State Government also, but we do get any reactioD. there is no effect. Our The Minister has already stated in his Minister should find out and make it clear reply that 646S FeI workers will be retren- to the State Government as to what is its ched. The Government has approved the responsibility on this. retrenchment of the entire force of 6465 departmental labourers of the Food Corpo- I have a few suggestions to make to ration of India working at major pons due our Minister. to drastic reduction in the handling costs. This is what the Food and Civil Supplies 1. There must be proper procurement Minister Shri P. Shiv Shanker told the of foodgrains of good quality. and no one Rajya Sabha on 18th March. The imports should pressurise FCI officials for accepting and exports operations of FCI had shrunk any inferior quality grain. in size considerably and the corporation had been incurring an expenditure of about 2. There must be proper arrangement Rs. 23 crore every year towards payment of storage and all storage godowns must be of idle wages to this almost surplus labour, inspected by the senior officials and stem the Minister said in a written reply. action should be taken against anybody responsible for loss of foodgrains. Unemployment problem is a great problem in our country with the youtb force increas- 3. Transit losses must be stopped by ing day by day. Unemployment is not only constitu ting a high power committee a problem of onr country, but it is a pre- comprising offiCials of the Food blem over the world also. When a Jot of- Corporation, State Governments concerned, an industries are going to be closed wben the Department of Railways and the Surface , central government recruitment is banned Transport as well as the Truck Owners' for a long time and recruitment Association to stop wastage and losses in when new is not going to take place, then \Vh, th,s transit. Government is going to retrench 6400 4. The State Government machinery workers. It is the duty of this Government should be strengthened immediately to rehabilitate them in any way. and the State Governments should be made How are they going to retrench these directly responsible to Central Government for failure to supply good quality food- workers? If the Government retrencbes these grains to the Pair Price Shops for distribu- workers, then where win they IO? They wilt die. They are now starving. Then, the tion to consumers. Minister will bother and the Department WiD S. There must be at least one Fair bother. So, it is the duty of Gove.rnment Price Shop for every 2000 oopulation and to save the families of these workets aDd I want to know which arc tbe States which the workers themselves. Otherwise we win have defaulted in makinl arranaements for be in a dangerous po~ition and the country such Fair Price Shops. will be passiI1l through a crucial time. fi. There must be proper supervISIon It is also my request to the Hon. ror supply of roodgrains to the tribal areas Minister, I think the Minister will under- and for tho people in tbe rural areas. stand the problem of the people aod their sentimeats. to look after all these things, and I would lite to say that our Govern- to properly rehabilitate these worken also. ment is not doing well regardiDJ these acti- vities. Our Government has set up these 1 would like to request the Miniater to Fel Dot to revive themselves; but to revive make the Food Corporation of lDdia an activities and maJc:e achievements. Now, efficient orpnisation. I thi. it is biBh time. some odiciala of FCI arc totally corrupt and to '-ke immediate action and \told action 355 H • ..4. H. DU. APRIL 17, 1986 H. A. H. Dis. 356 [KiImGri MfIIIIIIIG BGMrj"1 While taking into consideration about agaiDst the corruption or the FCI,. I am the expenditure involved it is very much optimistic and hopeful that our new Minister necessary to find out as the hone Members apci the new Management will look after will appreciate that there are certain items all these things and will take bold action. of expenditure which are within the control of the Government and there are certain Sir, one thing is there. The Opposition other items which are beyond our control. must oppose but it mus t be constructive For DO moment I am standing here to opposition. I have already said in the support the deeds which are not expected moming tbat Opposition may oppose if from FCI but certainly some of the facts necessary but they should also appreciate must be known to all. certain things. I have seen in the news- papers that our Minister i. taking some So far as procurement incidental is con- bold steps against Food Corporation of cerned we have broken up the figures, India. Our Minister is committed to take namely, the items which could be controlled by effective steps against Food Corporation of the Government after identifying the India but my point is that some time-limit factors of losses and items which are not should be there. If you are not going to do within our control. something early and take two-three years then people win suffer and become helpless. Here, I may give some figures for the It is also your duty to take proper steps information of the hone Members. I have within some time-limit otherwise people given in the morning the whole figures in regard to the loss in carrying the entire will be hopeless. volume. If we analyse the procurement Sir, I thank you and the hone Speaker incidentals, the element of loss so far as for giving me the chance to raise this wheat is concerned, the 'mandi' charges are question. Rs. 3.92. This is 1984-85 rate. The cost of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gunny bag is Rs. 8.25, purchase/sales-tax MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND is Rs. 5.09, interest charges are Rs. 2.71. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE These are beyond our control. We can con- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL trol them by amending the 'mandi' Act and other things. But those exercises which we SUPPLIBS (SHRI A. K. PANJA): Sir. I can well understand the feelings and are now treating as items are not within sentiments expressed by the young lady our control. Member regarding functioning of the Food Corporation of India. In fact, it is just a Now, Sir.. what are the items that are co-incideoce that the Budget discuss ion within our control? Now, 'mandi' labour started yesterday and today I also intervened charge in Rs. 1.17, forwarding charges are and tried to answer some of tbe points afid SO paise, interna' movement charge is &s. 2.76, establishment charges Rs. 1.33, arguments made with some very cogent reasons by some of the Members. In fact, storage charges are 52 paise and others some of tbe facts stated by them were also work out to six paise. So , Sir, the cost of correct. I have already stated so in my procurement comes to a total of Rs. 26.31. If any hone Member applies his mind he reply. which has not yet finished, but today Half-an-Rour discussion also came. will find that 76% of this is non-cont;oll- able, that is, beyond the control of the Sir, the first point emphasised by the Government. hoD. Member is reprdinl the transit losses. Several questions on this point have already Let us now take the other average, that heeD answered by me where the fisures have is, distribution cost-average pool for both beeD given. The first objective under the wheat and rice. The handlin. charges are leadership of the Prime Minister and also Rs. 3.S1, storage charges are 2.97, freight my senior colleague was to identify and cbaraes are Rs. 17.17, interest charges are isolate the causes of the tOIles and wastaps. RI. 18.20, administration overbeads come While doiu so the Members!DiPt be to Ra. 3.16, transit and storage charps iIlterated in some of the ticurOi which I works out to lls. 6.88. The total comes to could pve to the hon. Members. Ra. 51.98. Sir, out of these, two are beyond 357 H. A. H. Di8. CHAITRA 27. 1908 (SAKA) H. A. H. Dil. 358 our control, that is. freight rate aDd iater- and the research workers, if the moisture is est rate. Freight charges shall have to be m~e than 18 per cent, in storage the Cood- paid to the Railways and the interest charges grams would go bad quickly. If the mois- ~ball have to be paid to the bank. Therefore, ture content is more than thit. the If you calcu)ate, out of this amount of ~oodgrains wiU become bad. We have Rs. Sl.98, 70% is non",control1able and out ISsued specific instructions that whatever of the amount of Rs. 26.31, 76% is nOD. might be the loca) pressure from whatever controllable. If you and Rs. 51.98 to qoa~er, the specifications as scientifically Rs. 26.37, the total come to Rs. 78.20. adVIsed have to be maintained. For that The procurement price is Rs. 162. reason, we are getting letters from several The total comes to Rs. 2~O.20. The quarters and everybody is taking up tho issue price is Rs. 190. Therefore, from cause of the farmer. If the cause of the where will the balance money come? Sir. farmers has. to be kept in mind on the band this amount of Rs. 50.20 had to be the we cannot Ignore the cause of one end users. subsidy figure. So, the total for the central on the other. The foodgrains have to be issue price per quintal including procure- stored and these are going to the poor ment price comes to Rs. 240.20 and tbe people, the end users. We have to strike a issue price is Rs. 190. Therefore, hone golden means and the golden means is that Members will appreciate that Rs. 50.20 is 18 per cent specifications for moisture for the subsidy figure and that is how the sub- paddy have to be maintained. sidy amount comes. Whatever the amount, we are trying to find ways and means to save whichever item is controllable. But we Even if these specifications are complied have to see how much they could be mini- with, we have found that bag which can mised keeping in view the better distribution contain 9S kgs only is being packed with system. We are not sittinl quiet over this 100 kg~. forciably. This is done by pressure. by saying that we are trying to find ways ~ere IS a resultant bleeding of the bags, the and means. I have already stated in the slltches come out and while in transit there Budget discussion earlier when this point is a loss of foodgrains. H we compare tbat was emphasised. I wanted to give some with big countries. where everything is done by will specific figures. Now, what are the actions automation_, that not be a proper comparison. The reason is that lakhs of that we can immediately take '1 We can divide it into three categories. First, what people are earning their bread and butter by workiag lawfully FCI. It not only could be done immediately to reduce these in is the employees who are engaged, it is also losses. whether in transit or in storage; two we have given priority for isolating and loca- the departmental workers, the daily paid workers who earn by their absolute sweat ting the controllable factors so that tbe cost carrying could be minimised to the cuent possible, and blood. by the foodaraiDs on the back, taking it out from the storage and three. long draw-process which involves capital cost of having mote storage facilities. putting in inside tho lorry. taking it do~ having more covered wagons, having distri.. to the railway station, again PuttiDa it in the wagons etc. We have to see what bution in a scientific manner etc. These are in the three categories under which action has perspective these aU are beiDa doDO. to be taken. Some hon. Members IIBve been men- We have started taking action on what tioning about storqe of foodgraiu ill silos could be done immediately and the results Its cost is so much. Betides, tho questio~ are encouragina. The purchase bas to be of unemployment is also involved. We within specifications. Everybody knows have to strike a &Olden means. and hon. Members coming from various States would realise that sometimes for As I said. we have issued instructioas giving the farmers the best of the benefits, that lunny bags should Dot be filled with we are exposed to various types of pressures. 100 tIS; it has to be 93-95 tas. so that Some arguments are made that 18 per cont the fallin, down of foodaraiDs is .,.., Jow. moisture for paddy procurement slaould not We ba.e aIao said that there IDUIt be be specified. It must be allowed to be machine stitchiq so that bleediq is u hiabor. As presently advised by the scientists 1ittlo as possible. All the steps are beiaa ~Sg H. A.. 8. Dis. APlUL 17. 1916 H. A. H. Dis. 360 [Slui A. L P_ja] Bu~k storage and transportation, re,war verIfication of stocks, etc. are some the taken aradualJy and we ha ve noticed that or steps that bave been taken for the purpose the losses are coming down. of carrying these huge foodgrain stocks that To the extent possible. we have allotted are available. money for providing weigbilll machines. We have said that there should be a weigh- The young member has talked about ing machine at all depots with Bve thousand corruPtion. It is not as though we are tonnes capacity or more capacity. We have not aware of it. But we have to move Dot covered all the depots, but we arc accordina to the law of the land. We have taking expeditious steps and we have an established democracy here. But it is allotted money for establishing of weighing not correct to say that our Law is not capa- machines. ble of dealing with this problem. We have to be more alert. We are taking action and Railways are the main source of trans- portation of foodgrains. As you know, major~ minor and total action is initiated Punjab, Haryana and UP are the three main against 16 Category I officers and the cases growina areas. KincUy imagine that from pending upto the end of January 1986 (major and minor) against CategOry officers Cbandigarh or a remote area in Punjab, the I railways are carrying foodgrains to Kanya are 24. In category II, total number of cases in which action has been initia ted is Kumari on the one side and upto Assam, 123; and cases pending upto January 1986 Meahalaya, Tripura and Arunachal Pradesh. If open wasons are given for carrying are 251. In Category III, action initiated 357 and cases pending 556. In Category IV, the foodgrains, we suffer heavy losses. The number of cases initiated is 113 and cases figures are as follows. In 1982-83, 13.7 per pending 123. The total round up is like this. cent were carried by open wasons. After Number of cases where action has been arping with the Railw&Ys~ in 1983-84 it came down to 2.6 per cent. The position initiated is li09 and the number of cases pending is 954. Along with this, in 1985 76 further improved in 1984-85 and with the , cooperation of the Railway Ministry, it officials including 2 Category I officers have been dismissed and removed or compulso- came down to ).3 per cent. The reason is rily retired from service. Another 42 simply this. It is not as if three is an acute officers are dismissed and removed, including shortage of waIODS. The entire movement 2 Category I officers. Under the FCl's takes place within 8 weeks because of the Staff Regulation Act, the services of 20 COUDtry'S producing areas and climatic con- ditions. The entire operation starts on the employees are terminated and 24 persons VaiMkbi Day and it continues for about 8 retired. weeIn and the entire movement shall ha ve to take place within that time. So, naturally, As I said earlier, the difficulty is, we the problem of shortage arises and some- have to proceed according to the law times we have to yield to tbe real want or established. We cannot act at random. covered wagons and use open wagons. After all, the guilty may escape but the innocent must not suffer. That is the Besides, administrative steps and security established law of our country. We are measures are beiDg taken to ensure quality not saying that all the auilty must escape. control and to check malpractices as far as If we aet hold of one innocent person and possible. A DCW system of management put him behind the bars or dismiss him, called the Management of Information in my very respectful submission before you System in short MIS has been established it would not be a lood step at all and i' for identifyinl heavY loss areas under the win not help us. I have also asked out supervision of the new Chairman of the FCI oJ6ccrs concerned to live due rccopitionr &JODI with the Department of Food and to lood officers and other employees by CiYiI Supplies. itb this. we can miaimise hooouriq them with certificate of merit and Joues. We are baviq mechanised devices also awardiDl them prizes. We are loiDa in certain places wbere hap amoUDts of to hoY an annual confercuce wherein lUeb foodJl'&ins have to be stocbd. These aood ofIicers aDd other employees are re- mochanisecJ devices save. lot of foodarain. wuded for their better functioniq. 3(;1 H. A. H. Dis. CHArntA 27. 1908 (SAKA) H. A. H. Dis. 362 So far as West Benpl is concerned, tho UnJess each one in the whole family of this hOD. member has raised the question of entire supply set-up performs the duty cast kerosene. I am very sorry to say one thiDg. upon bila, it will not be possible for onc I may clarify that I do not mean any offence new Director or new Chairman coming in, to the members from West Bengal present to do things overlooking the entire FCI. here, I am not saying this because of any After all, we bave to deal with people who political bias. This is an unfortunate thing arc workmg. and I would like to bring it to their notice so that they can take it up immediately. So. these are tbe items to be looked We came to know from a very leading into by the State Government. Joint inspec- Benlali newspaper that kerosene is being tion takes. place. One: we have offered sold in black market in various parts of joint inspections. Two: lot there be surp- Calcutta and also a in some districts. rise cbecks. Three : Please do take action. The West Bengal Government bas stated Two high-ranking officers were sent im- that it wUJ not take action under Perventive mediately. On the first day, they alone moved Detention Act. Very good; if you don't around, and identified areas where black- want to do so for any other reasons, there marketing was taking place. On the second are other laws. Do take action against the day, they went with the State7 s officers. One otfendiDI people. month has passed. I have personally written a letter pointing this out to the hone Chief Regarding the person who was named Minister, and to tbe Food Minister. and banded over to the State GoveIllJDCBt, Unfortunately, not even a reply is there. It up till now not a single step has been take~. pains me that only the Private Secretary One montb has passed. Actually he was acknowledges my letter, to my Private caught ; his licence was taken.. Because the Secretary. From Punjab, we let the replY macahinery is with the State Government, immediately, within 48 hours of receipt. In be was banded over. No reply to me, and Tripura, the Chief Minister himscif writes no action intimated to me. within 48 hours of receipt. From Andhra Pradesh, the Chief Minister rings me up and This is just an example-not to hurt tells me that he is taking steps, and that anyone's sentiments. I am giving just an because of urgent work, it will take seven example. Therefore, it can be done. It is days for him to reply. not an impossible task. I am by nature an optimist. I have a good leadership, which These are the points. It was found by I am getting from my Minister-in-charge the officer that openly in the streets of Shri Shiv Shanker; and there is a specific Calcutta. without fcar for anybody, the direction from the Prime Minister that all officer from tbe Food Department went public distribution has to be streamlined, there. He was offered 30 litres of kerosene and has to be streamlined with the speed straightway at the black market price. while and efficieDCY that is required. We arc on buge numbers were standing in the Queue. tbat path. I am not blaming anybody. The While answering the question, it was difficulty is that the implc.mcnting machinery my fault that the records of the losses were is not with us ; it is with the State. If the Dot with me. They came later on; and the State can do things according to at least bOD. Member felt that there should be a what we have identified, it wiD be good. half-an.bour discussion, and rishtly so. At Firstly, they are complaining that the the right timo, this discussion is taking Central Government and the Food Corpora- place. The procuremont bas started. Storage tion are not ,ivin, 100d food. I say: do wDJ take place. Distribution "Ill tbon come reject it. We have said that joint inspection in. After the Session is over by 7th May must be made, in the Pood Corporation possibly, let the bon. Memben 80 to their ,odOWDS. Have joint inspections. Give coastituencles. Let them please specify any your certificates, and then live them to offendiq oftIoer or anything that is wroagly your distribution CODtres. If there is a happenina. Let them ..i'Ve particulars., dlcir failure tbore, then it wiD be very 4imcult. names. addnsses and detaila to us. ADd I Woll over 3 lath fair price shops are thero. assure you that with the hottest despatch at 363 H. A. H. Dis. APltlL 17. 1986 H. A. H. Dis. 364 [Shrl A. K. Panja] I would also like to know why the hou ses of the top officers of F. C. I. at Bombay our command, and with the strictest laws were Dot raided. available to us, we shall take disciplinary action, 0{ course according to law. The second tbiDJ I would like to point out is that some officers are continuing at a Sir, to take steps according to law, we particular place for long time. I would like have to act in accordance with the law. So, to know the rules under which some officers these have to be combined, because that is are staying at some special places, i.e., in the law of the land in India. regional offices for long. I want to say that With these words, I hope I have ans- these officers and bureaucrats terrorise people. wered the points raised by the young hOD. Tbey are bunaling the public money and I say Member in thIS House. it with confidence and am ready to accept challenge. I am ready to aceept this challenge MR. CHAIRMAN; Und~r Rule S5 (2) because I have worked on the posts of Senior I draw your attentIon to the fact that the Executives and Deputy General ManaaeIs in permitted Members are permitted to put one tbe top companies or this country. I tell the question each. So, let them frame their honourable Minister aod claim that I will questions properly, and put them. Now Mr prove these figures as incorreCt. These Somnath Rath. He IS not present. officers of F.C.I. are misleading the country. I demand that a committee consisting of [Translation] M .Ps. from both the houses should be con- stituted and that committee should look DR. G. S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): into the matters of F .C.I. and to find out Mr. Chairman, Sir, whenever, there is a whether corruption is prevalent there or reference of Food Corporation of India, we not. Hon' ble M.nister should reply to this hang our head with shame. It is said that issue. ·'Food Corporation hai Jahan, Bhrashtachar hal walum" (whenever there is Food Corpora- SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (pali): tion, these is corruptIon) Ihe 14th March, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to say that 1986 will be written in golden letters in the the hon. Minister, is a very good minister history of the country. and talk good things. He at least admits that there working is not upto the mark. [English] The former minister Shri K.P. Singh Dca had told that after enquiry a report would MR. CHAIRMAN: Please put ques- be presented in January, 1986. Would you tions to the hon. MinISter. please now teU about the whereabouts of DR. G. S. RAlliANS: I shall speak that report? This was your promise. for one or two minutes. Then I shall put questions. Please bear with me. [Englis"] rrrtUJ.f/atio,,] He bas assured the House tbat he will When we put pressure to know some- submit a Report. He has given a statement thing about the Food Corporation of India, on the Floor of the House; and he said that we were given the scnsational information this will be done. about the loss to the tune of six. hundred crores of rupees in the course of transit and The financial Express Bureau dated 10.1.86 storage d ocing five years. This news was rcada as follows : published in the newspapers of the 15th March and on the next day editorials OD "The sharpest increase has been in the this issue appeared in the leadina news- case of bandliDI coat of rise, which has papers of this country. Raids were coodoc- moved up by about 76 per cent-from ted on the houses of top officers of F. C. L Ra. 9.54 per quintal in 1981.82 to on the 19th. It seems that the hOD. Minister RI. 17.57 per quintal in 198~-8S (as per does not know about it. The bon. Miniltcr reviled estimates)" should teU whether raida were conducted OJ' not. If yes then the namea of the oIicers. It farthCl reads as follows: 36~ H. A. H. Dis. CHAITRA 27, 1908 (SAKA) H. A. H. Dis. 366 "'The handling charges in the case of or tbe peopJe whom you have punished and wheat moved up from Rs. 22.32 per the action you are taking against the cul- quintal to 28.09 per quintal during the prits. same period. [English] The distribution of foodgrains has also moved up steeply by about 28 per cent- SHRI A.K PANJA: So far as the hone from Rs. 37.87 per quintal in 1981-82 to Member's first question is concerned, he RI. 48.34 per quintal in 1984-85". wanted to know the names. I have brought the list here. If permitted I can read out Then it furtber reads as follows : only names. (Interruptions). We must realise that there are more than a lakh of persons "The salary bi) 1 (including contribution working there. Therefore, I will give the of provident fund and overtime) bas names and the sections under whieh the case moved up by 63 per cent (from Rs. 92.58 is filed. crores in 1981-82 to Rs. 450.75 crores in 1984-85." MR. CHAIRMAN: Please lay it on the Table so that other Members may also read The other administrative expenses of the it. Corporation have also jumped up by about 36 per cent, from Rs. 11.33 Crores in 1911-82 SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: What to Rs. 15.31 erores. about our question? We do not want list. I say . (Int~rruptions) Now I want to quote from the reply , MR. CHAIRMAN: You give the answer given by Shri A.K. Panja to Unstarred on the broad lines. Question No. 1920 on 7.3.1986: SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: What "On 31.1.1986, Weights and Measures about the report as on January 19861 That Department of Delhi Administration is a statement of the Minister. What hap- weighed at random 10 bags out of 30 pened to that report? bags of wheat issued by Food Corpora- tion of India at its Ghavera Depot to MR. CHAIRMAN: That he will reply. Delhi State Civil Supolies Corporation for distribution through fair price shops SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: He has not given the answer. Why demurrage ..... and f ouod shortages of 24.5 kgs. (InJe"uptions) This is the reply given by the Minister. SHRI A.K. PANJA: I was answering And he said that he would institute an the first Member. If Mr. Daga wants ans- enquiry. wers to his questions first~ then I have to decide which one I should answer first. I am [Translatit»l J first answering the first Member who raised the points. I have got the list with me. I want to know if you have instituted an enquiry against them and if so, what are the results of the enquiry. FUrther, how would DR. G.S. RAJHANS: I want to know whether the raid was conducted on 19th of you decrease the expenses of the Food March. Corporation ot India wbich bas turned into a very biB establishment. I would also like to know the amount you have paid as SHRI A.K .. PANJA: The actual date is not with me, demurrage. The most important point is that the rate of interest. OD the loan taken from the Government, is very low. It is MR. CHAlRMAN: That can be sup- p\ ied later_ three per tent to five per ceDt. This depart- ment of yours is of no uc;e; it canoot supply aood-quaUty foodgrains and is incurring SHRI A.K. PANJA: But certainly we losses. I would also like to know the names have found out and I have got the tota] list 367 H. A.. H. Dis. APRIl:. 17. 1986 H. A. H. Dis. 368 [Shri A.r. Panja] caD give me the details which can be ..... with me and I will certainly lay it on the ( I11t."uptio1l). Table of the House. saRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: Mr. Minister, SHRI A.K. PANJA: Mr. Daaa raised you are inviting him, you are calling him not one question but several. So far as the in your Chamber. ... (Interruptions). MR. CHAIRMAN: Is Mr. Rajbans's SHRI A.K. PANJA: Yes, certainly. Sir, qtJ~tion over? so far as Mr. Daga'a various questions are concerned, tbey have gone into several DR. G.S. RAJHANS: No, Sir. I wanted factors. About the losses I have already said. to know whether tbe hone Minister is pte- I need not reply again. The break up figures pared to form a Joint Committee of both the also I have given. Mr. Daga has pointed Houses to look into the working of Food out why it has increased for two years. Corporation of India. This is more impor- The quantum has also increased along with tant than anything else. it. I am not saying tbat I am justifying the cause but I am saying that we are looking SHRI A.K. PANJA; The first thing is into the details. The point is that the that the Public Accounts Committee is there. quantum has also increased and along with So far as the hone Members. team is concerned the volume of movement. the transhipment Don-official group and otbers in tbe Board of and the traDSit also has increased. Every Directors-four vacancies are there. So, one incidental increase has been there. Along of the Members may come in as a non- with that, the payment to the farmers official. But forming another committee win also has increased so that they come again delay tbe matter. The Public Accounta and we procure at a reasonable price. Then Committee examines in detail. The Members we are storing the entire thing. The Com- go round all over India wherever they choose mittcc·s Report also we have to comply with. at random. There is DO question of any hide Buffer stock has to be kept. The on-going and seek. Therefore. jf any committee is stock has to be kept. To tbe end-user also required, we shall certainly look into it. we have to give at a reasonable price. But it is not required. My feelilll is when Therefore, there the subsidy is involved, I we have started doing it. tben our entire have already stated all those figures. action has to be stalled until the committee Considering all these, Mr. Daga being gives its Report. That meaD definitely another a senior Member here, would realise two years. It will not be possi hIe to complete that it increase with the volume. the report in such a vast country, with 10 But we are certainly looking into much infrastructure available. )f the bon. what are the controllable expenditure which Member knows any particular details. he could be controlled, what arc the losses should give them to me. which could immediately be stopped And that is why I have stated ten points- DR. C.S. RAJHANS: Ir you give me the performance and duties of tbe States two hours. I can unmas k many thinp. I and the performance and the duties of FeI know many things and that is why I officials. With these words, I think, the hOD. request that ... (Interruptions) Members except those who wanted to point out ... __ (Interruptions). THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND TOURISM (SHRI H.K..L. BHAGAT): I will sugaest that SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: The the hone Member can meet the Minister and report should be given as on 1st January. give him aU the details. SHRJ A.K. PANJA: Yes, certainly. A SHRI A.K. PANJA: That is what I am note be liven by Me. Dap and a Dote be saying. H~ need not talk for two houn, be liven by the bon. Member ... (Interruptio"s). 369 H. A. H. Dis. CHAITRA 27, 1908 (S..4K.4) H. A. H. Dis. 370 SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Mr. I have no knowledge myself. I will certainly K.P. Singh Deo had laid that a report look into it and inform them. These are my regarding the Pood Corporation of India by January, 1986 •••••• (/nt.,.,.uptiolU) submissions, SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: May I suggest lS·56 bra. to the bon. Member. Mr. Daga that if he wants some more satisfaction or information. he can also meet the Minister. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till EIe,en SHRI A.K. PANJA: Yes, certainly. So 0/ the Clock 011 Monday, April 21, 1986/ far as Mr. Singh Deo's report is concerned, VaiJakha I, 1908 (Saka).