Fifth Series VoL LYUI-No. 5. Friday, Match t2 ,1976 Pbalguna 22, 1897(Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES

(Sixteenth Session)

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(Fb/. LV1I I contains Nos. 1 — j o )

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No. 5, Friday, March 12, i

Oral Answers to Questions: COLOMKS ♦Starred Questions Nos. 81, 82,98 and 83 to 88 , 1—32

Written Answers to Questions : Starred Questions Nos. 89 to 97, 99 and 100 , 32—41

Unstarred Questions Nos. 444 to 489,491 to 549,551,552 and 554 to 566 ...... 41—142

Papers laid on the Table ...... M3 *44

Messages from ...... 145

Bills as passed by Rajya S a b h a ...... 145

Business of the House . . . . ' ...... 146

Joint Committee on Offices of Profit—

Recommendation to Rajya Sabha to elect a Member . . . 146-47

Supplementary Demands for Grants (General), 1975-76 . . . 147—60

Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi ...... 147—52

Appropriation (No. 3) Bill, 1976—Introduced—

Motion to consider—

Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi 161

Clauses 2, 3 and 1 161 Motion to pass— Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi . . 162

Railway Budget, 1976-77 —General Discussion— Shri Samar Mukherjee ...... 162—78 Prof. Narain Chand Parashar . . . 178 86 Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan . . . 186—98 Shri S. A. Kader 198—206 Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad . . . 206 14

•The sign + marked above the name of a member indicates that the Question was actually asked on the floor of House by that Member. oo

C o l u m n s

Constitution (Amendment) Bill . . * , , _ 214—270 {Amendment o/JPart III) by Shri Bhogexira Jha *

Motion to consider—

Shri Bhogendra Jha 214—25

Shri Dasaratha Deb ...... 226—31

Shri B. R. Shukla ...... 231—34 Shri H. N. Mukerjee .... , 234—38

ShriM. C. Daga ...... 238-^50 Shri Biren Dutta . 2^0 ^

Shri Nimbalkar . . . 251—59

Shri Sat Pal Kapur .... 259—69

Shri P. M. Mehta . . . 269—70 LOK SABHA DEBATES

x 2 LOK SABHA given by the STC and fn m their own STC lice ices get items at a cheaper rate How rould it happei7 There- Friday, March 12, 1976/Phalguna 22, fore with your permission I would 1807 (SaJra) like to put this specific question by giving one or two examples

I would like to know whether it is The Lok Sabha met at E t en of the not a fact that the STC has imported Clock a canalised item namely L Aminodiol at as high a price as Rs 293 per Kg while M /s Suneeta Laboratories im- [Mr Spfaker ir he "'hatr] ported it at a price of Ps 232 50 p*r Kg vide LC No 75 *>06/61 dated ORAL ANSWARS TO QLFSTIONS 20 11 75 and Mac la b ra*ones at Rs 260 per Kg almost dunng the same Import of Articles by S T C period Similarly I can give second example *81 SHRI P M MFHTA Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased MR SPEAKER Please don t give to stdte more examples One is erxtgh (a) whether State Trading Corpo- SHRI P M FJEHTA I will give the ration has been importing various name only canalised articles at higher rates than those paid by the business concerns MR SPEAKER On a question like importing directly and this you should not bring m individual items The hon Minister may not (b) if so, what action Government ha\e information propose to take to remove this lacuna7

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI P M MEHTA I ser»k your protection MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ) (a) In the beginning I said that the and (b) Purchases of t. nunodittes are answer given by the Minister is not generally made m bulk bv the State only evasive but misVadmg There- Trading Corporation asutirst global fore kindly allow me to name ose enquiries and therefoie the prices pa)d item more I won’t go into the details by them are competitive It is regarding the purpose of Ampicil- lrn Anhydrous which has caused a l>ss SHRI P M MEHTA Sir, the of precious foreign exchange of the answer given by the hen Minister is order of Rs 1 crore Therefore, I not only evasive but also misleading to want to know what action Government the House The whole purpose of will take regarding the purchase of having the system of canalisation 1s these two items and others at the to get the imported items compara- higher rate vis-a-vis the rate at which tively at a cheaper rate But what has the same item was put chased during ^appended 2s that some private parties the same period by a ppivate party on on the strength of the authority letter the strength of an authonty letter 2753 LS—2 3 Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Oral Answers

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: I wil put forward the precau- SINGH: Sir, we have no information tions that we take to see that the pur- of any bungling. chases made by the STC are at correct prices. The bulk purchases made by DR. RANEN SEN; There has beer; STC are made against global enqui- a constant complaint agains; the STC ries and tenders... that they are chirgi'ig more f.-r im- porting certain drugs, brth inter medi- MR. SPEAKER; There are so many ates and final formulations. This has repetitions, and 1 don't want that. He been the charge against the STC and asked a specific question and you can the charge was substantiated seme say whether it is a fact or not. He time later because the drug Indo- asked about two items that the STC methacyne which is availably outside purchased at a higher price while a at Rs. 400 per ki'o is sold by the STC private sector party purchased the at Rs. 800 per kr*o. So n:v quesiion is, same item at a lesser price. If you in view of the fact that ce^.ain multi- have no information you can say sc. national companies in the drug sector want to import basic raw materials SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP and intermediates and final formula- SINGH: I will find out about thin. tions from iheir parent bnu5.es at a higher price and are quoting the figures SHRI P. M. MEHTA : I would like of the STC in order to denigrat* the to know whether the Hon. Minister is STC and the Government of W ’a’s aware that the STC has been spending policy of canalisation, what steps is the excess foreign exchange to the tune of Government going to take in regard to Rs. 5 crores Per annum on the D&P these things? Division on Rs. 30 crore worth imports of 32 canalised drugs which are SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP purchased by STC at far higher prices SINGH: I want to dispel the impression than the prevailing international rates that the STC imports are ut a higher and this is being done with the con- price. I shall explain this a little. nivance of high officials of the D&P After the STC imports an item, sales- Division of the STC who are responsi- tax and godown charges are added to ble to have created... the cost of the imported item. Certain firms which can import directly or MR. SPEAKER; Are you reading? make purchases on high seas do not Please don't r^ad the ciupslior. If vou have to pay sales-tax or godown char- read long questions, the Minister gets ges and are able to take advantage of confused and the answers are not this differential and compared to pur- forthcoming. So please ask specific chases made by these parties it can be and brief questions and I will ensure projected that the charges which are the answers. If you read qustions, I added by the STC are charges which will not be able conduct this Ques- unnecessarily raise the price. Last tion Hour properly. year in drugs and chemicals, there was price fluctuation in the international ■ SHRI P. M. MEHTA • Mr. Speaker, market; purchases by STC hud been the Question is of .< technical n*uare made at a certain time and after that, and therefore, I am referring to techni- the prices slumped down and people cal terms and ofher relevant matters. I don't read except when it is absolu- purchased at lower prices later: this tely necessary for me to do so for put- also gave rise to the impression that ting the question properly. the prices paid by the STC were high- er. In fact, the precautions that we Now, I want Ao.know what action the take are very wide: The STC has Government proposes to take against Specific Commodity Advisory Com- the officials who have bungled In the mittee in which the end-users are there matter. and the STC representatives are also Oral Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1887 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6

there, and they advise on prices of country and difficulties to the public various items. Against specific order and the industry^ made by the end-users, the STC takes the advice ol the end-i^sers .or the SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP price before making the order SINGH The STC is under no such pressure DR RANEN SEN I have put a spe Cifie question whether complaints have Come and if so, what steps are being HUE. QUESTIONS 82 AND 98 taken, MR SPEAKER Mr Madhukar. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SHRI DINEIN BHATTACHARYYA: SINGH I have mentioned tt*e steps Sir, Question 98 also relates to the ]ute that we have taken. industry It can also be taken up DR RANEN SEN Have complaints with Q 82 come that the STC are charging more’ MR SPEAKER Yes We can take SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP up both the Questions together SINGH I do not agree to such a sweep- ing complaint i have explained the Problems Facing Jute industry details *82 SHRI K M t ‘MADHUKAR’: SHRI K, S CHAVDA May I know SHRI : whether the indenting agencies operat- ing in our country foi foreign suj.pliers> Will the Minister of COMMERCE bfc are influencing the STC to procure the pleased to state materials from them as for example L (a) whether a thirteen-Member Aminodiol which was pointed out by Committee had been set up to look my hon friend, Mr P M Mehta, and into the problems facing the jute in- if so, why these indenting agencies dustry, and have not been blacklisted till t ow and why the officers of the STC have not (b) if so the composition and find- been penalised for the loss of foreign ings thereof’ exchange Why did Government not set right the mismanagement in the STC before adding the canalised items THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE to the list7 Why not de-canahse the (PROF D P CHATTOPADHYAYA): items where the STC have failed to (a) and (b) A statement is laid on procure adequately causmg loss to the the Table of the House

Statement

(a) Yes Sir (b) The comoo*«itior of the C mmt'ec is as M l iws i. Shri S G B ■>?

6. Shri Baldev Singhs Chief Technology Utilisation, C.S.I.R.,New D e lh i ...... Member 7. Shri S. Dutt Mszvmt’j’r, Industrial Adviser, Govern- ment of • * • * • Member 8. Shri P K. Ahuja, Joint Dirtctor3 Bureau of Indusiral Costs & Prices, N*. w D e l h i ...... Member 9. Shri M. Satyapal, Adviser, Planning Ccmxnissirnj New Delhi Me mb* 1 10- Shri T. K. Banerjee, Director, D.G.S & D-, Calcutta . Mtmbcr n Shri K. Ramanujam, Joint Secretary Ministry of Commerce Nl w D elh i...... * Member 12. Shri G. Ukil, Managing Director, Jute Corpcr^tic n < f Indie, Calcutta ...... Member 13- ShriS. N. Chakravarty, Jute Cf mm’ssicner, Calcutta . Member— Secretary The Committee has submitted an Inte- (c) The Committee would take into rim Report on 9-3-1976 on certain account the suggestions in finalising aspects relating to the terms of refer- its report ence. The report is under the consi- deration of Government. ‘WT*T : gft, irft aiffTTft Tt TZ w r Memorandum regarding Jute tptet 5cnrar f Industry fsprrFn m m f t fc, *98. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- sfV t, ^ ^ ^ CHARYYA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: T ift sft7 ^ m i srnr * % ” (a) whether Government have re- ceived any memorandum from C.I.T.U., West Bengal Committee, re- f^rr p n t, «ftr garding the Jute industry;

PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA ft flT*T ^ Sit, as regards difficulties of the indus- try, i had on previous occasions said, and I do say even now, that the origin ^ gnfr i t wfftt ^t^tt ^ fo n of the difficulties is not mainly inter- sffaT ?r fc jfSf jg-pft nal; it is due to the sluggish demand in the foreign markets If there is no demand m the foreign market, or a demand at a price where our goods are not competitive, we can appreciate ^ " ’T SHn— Wn *T TT ?rq-iy tfcat we can take some appropriate ? 1* it *T? *; measures and we have already taken, but we cannot solve all these difficul- stfaf'ffiPTt ? r «fr ^ ^rr t it r ^sr^rt ties overnight As you know, we have TT ft m , given some relief on account of export duty we have also seen to it that the m r mi w r^ ^ r twJ farr difficulties of the jute growers are also t w *r rfr fran T'rr ^ taken care of in terms of purchase f¥ im n xnrsjt ? srfTftfr fa* made by JCI Money has bpen put at ? I # jfFMT ^Tpfr =? the disposal of JCI for this nurpose IfW r ^ **** 'sp sott m ^ We have assured the Jute Corpora- f ^ ■» srfafaftm' cRr r*r# *r tion that if the price of raw jute goes ^ fspTT inn * down below the statutory minimum price, we will intervene, but I would like to bring to your kind notice that PROP, D P CHATTOPADHYAYA. the raw jute price this year has been Workers’ view& have been taken care higher than what it was last year and of This committee has heard them year before, well above the statutory on more than one occasion and tvy»iy minimum price Somehow, the situa- views have been taken due care of tion is slightly better on that account As you know, there was a demand Taking over of jute mills is no solu- lrom the industry side that production tion of the problem We have token should be cut mainly on the ground over some textile nulls more than, that there is no adequate raw material hundred but even some other mills, or they apprehended that there would are m difficulty So far as jute mills bo shortage of raw material at the end are concerned, only three were m diffi of the ]ute year culty and were closed One has al- ready been opened the other two have The Committee, among other things, been closed not because of these diffi- looked into the problem and they have culties but internal difficulties finan- found that there is no valid ground lor cial mismanagement etc It is not due this apprehension and there is no valid to the industry being in crisis ground for production cut So, not that the workers view has not been far* ^ taken car? of It has been taken care nften % *ft wwnj feqnr I I'T’T of and it is perhaps one of the main demands of the workers that produc- strt Tt ^ t fir irf®BPr tion cuts should not be resortea to and % rraft 5nf?r ?£ r sftt^snr on that ground retrenchment sot f spstjt iqapqr Tift I WSPT allowed On this matter, the Com- mittee’s findings are substantial a* ft T& JRT 3ft ^ W accord with the expressed desires and ITT W W t ^ fwfcl HW views of the workers* representatives. II Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Oral Answers 12

its plea that because of fall m expects overseas they must be given all ^ ^nrr fa few manner of financial assistance sub- •nrt ’ sidies reduction m export duties and be allowed to modernise m the sense ME SPEAKER He said that their that they should be allowed to ration- views have been heard alise their labour complement and In view of all this I would like to know SHRI INDRAJIT GUPJA This what is the thinking of the govern- Bose Mulhck Committee as it is ment on thc&e matters Already ac- called was appointed to mqu r<* into cording to the reply he gave to the the health of the industry and to sug- question I calculated and I find we gest remedial measures The hon have lost in terms of rexenue to the Minister m his reply ha** treated us to country ibout Rs 47 70 crores bccause the if I may say so now lalhti fata’e of the recent reductions or abolition and hackneyed argument advanced by of export duties which the Minister the mill owners alw *ys that due to has allowed to them or the Govern- the fall m the demand overseas the ment has allowed to them I would industry is facing a crisis like to know how many more conces- sions and how man\ more facilities Now my question is is he aware anrl benefits are to be given to these of the fact tint Mr Bose Mullirk him- lute mill m ignates instead of finding self is quoted in yesterday’s States- out whit is the rcil trouble with the man as having told reprters that the mdustrv ho^ speculative practices are issue of over production has been taken ruining this industry how my amount up with the Indian Jute Mills Asso- of undir-in\oicmg is going on how ciation but that thf I IMA has not black money is being at cumulated and been able to prove it So the ITMAg all kinds of malpractices ar« being plea that there is more production resorted to and no proper inauiry has than what they can sell according to ever been made into these I would Mr Bose Mullick has not been like to know whether the go\ ernment proved la he aware that Mr Bo«*e propose to have any kind of a real Mull ic k has also said probe into all thiese malpractices and * As to the fear that jute supplies corrupt practices m this industry will fall short of reouirements which have practically brought it to reports indicate that in the end of the verge of rum or whether they will the season we will have a comfort- be content simply with giving further able carryover forward ” concessions to the jute millowners So the gecond plea also according to PROF D P CHATTOPADHYAYA Mr Bose Mullick, is unfounded The hon Member has referred to what he has called ‘hackneyed answer*’ My Thirdly Dr T Radhaknshnan, Direc- answers may be of the same nature tor, Jute Industries Research Associa- because the problems are more or lass tion, Calcutta is also quoted m tike similar, if not the same, over the Press as saying years I do maintain what I had said before on the floor of the House The '‘Prospects of exports of lute goods problems faced by the industry are are not aa bleak as they are fre- serious and their origin is not quently painted provided steps ars domestic Bose Mulhck Committee taken to hold the price* within eam« to two conclusions In fact, in reasonable limits" my answer to the original question I referred to them So far as question Therefore, what I want to know of help to carpet backing and sacking from him is this since uptill now Industry is concerned, this industry JJMA not been able to substantiate does not dtmetnt further relief aft an. Oral Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Oral Answer* *4

But in respect of hessian, still there report it has been saui that lhe plea ol is difficulty We do not give any sort the 1JMA was to cut down the cost of of relief or heilp to the industry un- production May I know whether less we are satisfied both m our necessary probe has been got made7 Ministry and also the Audit Depart- May 1 know what is the meaning ol ment of the Ministry of Finance is the statement made by the hon satisfied ffi terms of costing that they Minister himself who comes from been provided, has been done because West Bengal and who is well aware been provided, has ben done because of the situation 111 the jute mills’ of the cost factor and also the com What does he mean by reducing the oetitive prices abroad So we are cost of production, taking the plea quite satisfied what has heen given by which the employers are increas- has been given in the larger interest ing the workload not only of the industry but also of the growers and the woikers, other- PROF D P CHATTOPADHYAYA wise some mills would have closed Reduction in the cost of pioduction down creating much more serious may be effected—and as a veteran difficulties trade union leader he knows—m more than one Way not necessarily Even now as T was saving hessian by retrenching the workers but by is in a difficult situation and its price othei means, by better management, is very much uncompetitive better financial management, better inventory management and better SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA With market facilities and not lesortmg referei re to the highly speculative activities earned on m jute business unnecessarily to speculative pressure itself So( it would not be rather which is pi eventing the prices from correct to think that cost efficiency being stabilised did they probe into necessarily means reduction in laboui it? Even after the reduction in ex- contingent So fai as we are con- cise dut\, the prices have gone up cerned, we have made it abundantly instead of coming down due to spe clear that we are not for retrench- culation Are you holding any probe ment of labour m some form or the into that’ other PROF D P CHATTOPADHYAYA Among olher things this aspect is SHRI B K DASCHOWDHURY being looked into I can also say that Regarding the pricing and costing of we have taken certain steps as a jute goods, the hon Minister has ad- result of which speculative pressure m vanced hi* arguments The reasons jute market has gone down in the are not domestic but international or lost one year those are operating i*n the foreign market*. 1 would like to know from SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA the hon Minister very specifically Just before the setting up of this whether it is a fact that jute goods Committee by a notification on Janu- manufacture in our country, in its ary 24th, the Minuter himself, 1 do total volume, is to the extent of not know, warned or advised the Jute nearly Be 1000 to 1200 crores, of Mill owners to reduce the coat of which hardly 25 per cent varying production. We had an apprehen- from Rs. 250 to 290 crores worth of sion and it is coming true that al- jute goods are exported. Secondly, ready the Jute Mill Owners in their of this volume of jute goods which old machines are increasing the is being exported and the foreign workload, as a result of which even exchange that is being earned to the at this moment more than S millions extent of Hs. 900 crores dr a little less are in trouble. Some have been than that, 60 per cent is of carpet locked out and some are on the verge packing and other items. Those are of being locked out In the interim latching a high price. Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Oral Answers 16

The convenient plea or argument on of onions is so high, leading to Rs 4 behalf of the Government as well as per kilogram or this is due to some the UMA is that due to costing or due other factors which are going on’ to price factor there is a slump in this Secondly, how much is the quantity country but this is not correct There- of export and this export to which fore I request the hon Minister to countries I would like to know How enlighten us on this, point much quantities were exported7 What is the amount of production PROF D P CHATTOPADHYAYA inside the country’ Due to export I don’t know whethei I can enlighten has there been any scarcity and cotl" the already very enlightened hon sequently rise of price or can it be Member I can bring to his notice said that this has been due to the the facts The quantum of the ex- machinations of the hoarders here’ port is nearly 50 per cent That is I want to be enlightened on these to say, in terms of the quantity ex- points ported, out of the total production, nearly 50 per cent or something more, SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP depending upon the effective demand SINGH There was failure of onion abroad is exported Even m domes- crop and the abnormal price use is tic market the demand for sackings due to that reason There was the put forward by Cement corpoiation failure of crop m the major onion and Cement units is going down be- growing States iike Maharashtra, cause they also find that if they do Karnataka and Tamilnadu The crop not take natural fibre sacking they position hat recorded improvement will not be able to rcduce the rrice and the price has gone down now of their end product abroad So, Rise in price then is not due to ex- even there, there is some reluctance ports The total quantum exported on the part of some There is also is only 4 7 per cent of total pioduc- sluggishness in the home market All tion We took the necessary precau- these factors taken into account have tion to ban export during this period created some problems The total production is of the oider of 10 to 12 lakh tonnes per annum Lifting of Ban on Export of Onions And the quantity in term4* of tonnes exported was 197J-74 64 440 1974-75, *83. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE 68 98S and 1975-76 April—Jub ^5 749 Will the Minister of COMMERCE As I said oui total production is of be pleased to state the order of 10 to 12 lakh tonnes and exports are around 55 to 68 thou- (a) whether the ban on export of sands tonnes onions has been lifted recently, and (b) if so the reasons therefor’ So, it is not a high percentage The countries to which the onions go THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE are Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Kuwait, Iran and Bahrein I sup- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) pose I have answered the points (a) Yes, Sir raised by the Hon’ble Member

(b) The ban was lifted In view qf SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE I the improved production and the want to know whether it is a fact need to earn foreign exchange that the traders were given bank loans to .corner the onions for creat- SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE Will ing the price rise artificially; whether the Minister enlighten us whether it the Minister ha* any knowledge ia due to the export that the price about thpi. Oral Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Oral Answers

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP Development of Handloom Industry SINGH: No, Sir. No loans have been In Kerala given for cornering the market + SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL The *84 SHRI A. K GOPALAN Minister said rightly that onion prices had gone up in December 1974. SHRI C H MOHAMED He referred to Maharashtra where KOYA 80 per cent of the onions are grown as compared to the whole country. Will the Minister of COMMERCE Now the prices have gone up to be pleased to state Rs 300 per ton To-dav m Maha- rashtra, the price of onion is only (a) whether Kerala Government Rs. 40 per quintal which comes to have suggested a time bound pro- four annas a kilo The onions are gramme for the development Of now exported to gulf countries as Handloom Industry in Keiala; they are the main exporters The Government have fixed the price for (b) if so, the main features of the the onions to be expoi ted at Rs 300 programme, and a ton. But, there is no market in the Gulf countries for Rs 300 a ton and they are asking for the reduc- (c) whether Government have ap- tion in pnees of onion by 50 per cent proved the programme? This year, m Maharashtra, there is a record crop or onions of 8 lakhs THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tonnes which arc now lying idle m MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI the market So, may I know from VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH)' the hon. Minister whether he is pre- (a). Yes, Sir pared to reduce the price of onions according to the demand m the Gulf (b) A statement indicating the countries’ <-chemes included m the programme is laid on the Table of the House SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH May I correct the hon Mem- (c) The schemes included in the ber’ Maharashtra’s production is programme have to be undertaken by 28 per cent of the all- produc- th0 State Government, with assis- tion, The prices have gone down tance from the Centre and from fin- It was ruling at Rs 250 which was ancing institutions as well as the abnormal in December, and it has State Government’s own resources. now come to about Rs 55/- That Some of the programmes are already is why we have allowed its export under implementation As a part of the Central Plan, an Intensive Deve- About the minimum price, I know lopment Project imolvmg an outlay of a case of a canalised item -when a of 185 crores and export-orientedi similar request was made about a project with an outlay of Rs 40 lakhs few days ago to reduce the minimum have been approved. price. Later on it was found that that particular parly could contract on the minimum price of which we Statement insisted. So, we should not get panicky and lose our foreign ex- Statement showing the details of change However, we take a prac- schemes included in the time bound tical view on this and after proper programme for development of assessments, we make the necessary loom industry proposed by the Cfo’*^ changes. eramani oi Kvrala. 19 Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976

P~·op03ec' cuth.y S. Ne. Scheme (in Rs. lakhs) --______:.______..::.. ______.. ____ ;:.. ______.,._,,_.,_

(1) HancUocm Projects

(2) Strengthening cf Aptx Society 54· 19

(3) Orgwisaticn cf Lctory-type frdustrial Ccc po·:::tivc ~ ocit - ties.

(4) Strengthrning of existing Inc' us trial Cooper2tiw ~ oc t 1 its 5o·co

(5) Collective Weav·ng Centres 122. 36

(6) S_ubsidy to Cooperative B mks against loss of interest r2·00 (7) Rev:talisation and strengthening of exist;ng pr,m:::ry h:::n(- bom Weavers C)Op~rative societies rr5·00

(8) Mmag~rial expenses to primary societies 12'00

(9) Tr;de deleg1tion to fo~eign countries . 5·00

(ro) Housing schem~ 180·00

(1 r) Weavers Se :vice Centre 26·74

TOTAL 1,074·24

SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: May I SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP know whether it was a fact that the SINGH: We do try to accommodate State Government sent a program:. to the maximum extent because it is me for Rs. 17 crores and then they in the Twenty-point Programme. were asked to revise it? They revis- But it will not be possible for me to ed it and brought it down to Rs. 10 giv~ a specific assurance for the in- crores. Why was it that even tnen creue. this amount was not given? SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NAIR: SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP Even this was approved by the Gov- SINGH: It has been done on· t!re ~rnment of India. That cornea to. total availability of resources aiid about Rs. 10.74 crores. As a part of what we can distribute ~tweeo. vari- the Central Plan, an Intensive Deve- ous States. lQpment Project invOllving an outlay of Rs. 1.85 crores and export-oriented project with an outlay of Rs. 40 lakhs SHRI A. GOPALAN: K. Since have been accepted. But, they do there are no 6ther basic or mafor not conform to any of the patterns industries in ;that part. of Ker'ala, given by the Kerala State in their namely, Malabar, especially in Can- project. So, how do these projects nan.ore and Kozhikode Districts and fit into the pattern? Has the Gov- the handloom indust.rie1 are a foreign ernment made it known to the Kerala exchange-earner, will the Govern- Government that they will continue ment consider to increase the amoun'f !o help them in regard to their pro- of assistance riven to the State Gov- 8illmetat? J ecta or have they told them that no further help could be given ao that Oral Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

the Kerala Government is aware of bodies at the State level and also the their responsibility m regaid to th* All India Handloom Fabrics Coopera- implementation of their original tive Marketing Society and also programme? bring more actively the services of Handicrafts and Handloom Export SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP Corporation of India Further, the SINGH These are centrally spon- State Govprnments will be assisted sored schemes Apart from these m increasing the share capital of the there are other proposals from the various cooperative bodies These Kerala Government regarding subsi- are the important measures which dy for payment of rebate and promo- have been taken tion of exports, etc for which Rs 60 lakhs have been provided Bonus on L IC with Profit Policies

SHRI THA KIRUTTINAN The *85 SHKI VASAM jaAl HE Will handloom industry in South mostly the Minister of FINANCE 1 e pleased depends on two things—one m get- to state ting sufficient quantity of Yarn and secondly m dealing the finished (a) whether bonus declared by the pioduct In South the handloom in- L IC on with-profito policies haa dustries suffer from these two handi- been stagnant for the past four years, caps I would like to know what (b) whether growth in L I C ’s ex- are the specific measures taken to penditure is outstripping the rise in see that these two sufferings are its income the management expenses removed account for over 30 p c and expenses incurred on servicing existing policies SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP have crossed the statutory ceiling of SINGH Regarding Yarn it will t>e 15 per cent, and obligatory on the new mills coming up during the Fifth Five Year Pilan (c) if so, what steps are taken to protect the interest of policy holders to produce 65 per cent yarn in the and make life insurance an attractive hank form which could be used in proposition for the common man’ the handloom industry As regards those mills which are already spin- ning yarn, the obligation has been THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THK. increased to 110 per cent as compar- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI ed to their production in 1972 Apart 8USHI1 A ROFATG1) (a> Yes Sir from thus licensing in the spanning sector has now been liberalised and (b) The o/e”all expense ratio si'd the renewal expense ratio for the year except for those cases which come 1974-75 were 30 48 per cent and lB.flT* under MRTP or mills located certain per cent respectively metropolitan areas no licence upto 50,000 spindles is needed Further (c) To counter at t the adve*1**- to have spinning mills in the wea- effect of inflation the LIC has ta^aa. vers' cooperative sector the NCDC vigorous steps to increase its near lias been given Rs 50 lakhs Fur- business, hmit its expenses and im- ther in the intensive development prove the return on Its investments projects and export oriented projects we have a scheme for having “Yarn SHJtl VACANT BATHS In View of banks** and this will go a Jong way the fact that admittedly the expense to Improve the Yarn availability ratio has gone very high, t^at 40 p#r cent of *h« policies an taken Ly people As regards marketing, Government who tak« policies txelow ~ intends to strengthen the various ape* tfeig gives 46 per cent of the fSfunppH 23 Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Oral Answers 24

amount, this is the backbone—and the am happy to take the House intc con- interest or return o i with profit poli- fidence and say that since the last 6—1 cies which is the main source of de- 8 months since the emergency v/ith posits to attract people, both for better discipline, which was absolutel- savings as wsU as for covering li&ks, ly necessary for better management, is low, what steps does Government and with tfce attempt »r>ade to curtail propose to take7 Ii you take a po’ iry avoidable expanses, we do find there for Rs. 10.000 for 15 years, it comes to has been .ioout 2 per een*, decrease in hardly 2.1 per copt whereas today the overall exnense ratij. I th:nk if even i f you deposit it in the banks this tempo is maintained and sustained, under the recurring deposit scheme the LIC may after Sumetime be able for 7 years, it douV'les you- amount to turn the corner. That being so, bow will the middle class man or the small man T^T There is no intention to debat? it, has put a very specific question- I aft 3RTT srfaiTT SJTHTT Oral Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897

arrmr $ srtrvfoarf?mfa and leather goods to the European Economic Community (E E C ) alone ’ TFT 1Sr?TfT ^ tf STRrST ^TcTT % will be sufficient m very near future ?n ?rft, *f tt nr fsnrp- f%zrr to pay-off for the additional oil bill that this country has to bear now, and (b) if so the turnover of our export trade in the above items for the last *fMV gston fftraift t fw two years? spft t t ^ t s ftr* ^rr =*rpfr 1 ifcft sffTETFt *T *R tr^ ifhpT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TIIE MINISTRY 0 s’ COMWRCE (SHRI «frqr f^PT TT ’*Tf^T Tt fkvff- VISHWANATH P R V ’AP SIT\GH) («t> fr ft t qr^vET ^ tnp 5fk *T1W sft A substantial in< rc<*se m leather ex £1 %rv& Pr ^ srfa-^iww ports is envisaged m the near future SFTJTjft T^T t ^ 3?RTTT^J (h) Overall exnortj of finished f r 35rn% 3ft fn5% strap" f^r I, "srt leather and leather go vis m h’dmg sr«r 7" wrnfar snr footwear for the last two years are* fsrr st f t fFT ir gt *ft snrf?r (Figures in Rs /Crores) g f f , 3*r*r 20 22 sfasRT 1974-75 1975-76 (Apnl-Jan.) (Estimated) f^TIT TT ^ 3TT ^ » ?rm 3ft *pHTT fio 85 45 09 f ^TT *ft *ftr ^TTR T’STT 3TTW I I* r SHRIMATI MAY\ RAY Would the •ft Trat* fap stwt hon Minister kmtll/ inform is with q?Sr w r *t w t t * reference to p^rt (b) o* the ouestion WT f fT fa r ? tcrf^cq- ir n^JTMVl W as to whether she is entirely satisfied with the cfflrien'v in the working of wt t STRUTT = ^ n j? the LIC’ 1 d i not war t to give speci- fT n?Tt T*frsr T^T t WT WT THTTI fic instances it will run into rages t ’ 3T*T ft *m nwrrr With respect to part (b;, is she entirel-y satisfied7 cr>*ro rr w ifix stt ’f 'snrt ^rr fr?RT srTprr-T P ? SHRI SUSHILA ROHA'lGl I am certainly not entirely satisfied with the efficiency and certainly these is scope SHRI VlS 4WAN A TH PRATA^ for improvement It is cur constant SINGII Ii wiTl rot 1 e p issible to endeavour to see that ther« is improve- give the proportion of tiger skins, ment m those matters crocodile -kins, etc But information can be collected and supplied Our expectancy to increase our leather ex- Export ot Finished Leather aid Leather Goods ports is based on our increased capa- city for finishing leather, it is picking *86 SHRI RAJDEO SINGH Will up very well, *t can be seen from the the Minister of COITMFRCR be pleased export figures of leather footwear and to state* leather goods manufactures, export* of finished leather from Rs 16 79 (a) whether according to a com- crores m 1973-74 has gone up to bined delegation of the European Rs 30 56 crores m 1974-75 Exports of confederation of footwear and tanners leather goods anj manufactures from which visited India recently the ex* 6 17 crores in 1J/3-74, has gone up to port earnings from finished leather Rs, 12 83 crones in 1974-75 Leather 27 Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Oral Answers 2 $

footwear exports has increased from THE MINISTER' OP COMMERCE Rs. 11.30 crores n l'*73-74 tc Rs. 17.46 (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPAOHYAYA): crores. (a). One -jute and two textile nulls ore lying closed in at present. (b) Taking over ot the mills by Government is dependent on a number w 4; T3W*- *r of factors li*e availability of finance, 3TR|5r *PT% fs 85?rr^ wn ffwrtsfiwr seized of the matter and efforts are under way to re start the m»lls at the TOT I 197 5—76 *T 10 WffHt *T earliest. srcnrft ?rf>, 45 9 ^ *T«r (c) Number of persons to be provid- ed employment in these nulls would fTWftf f^Fq-T W ’ \ ^TTT depend on the requirements at the time of re-opening. % «it irgfasftr stt^t 3i st t t r t ^ srPT rqe:?TT fasff *tt 1% S>?TT ^ W 5 ’ T iTTITTT ffT ^rr-f ? «rr?r |f *87. «ft

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wV ?r«F, f^rr% ?t Vt ^ ft'; ^ ^ wirPnr (* ) fa*ft%<|rr xTFjr Tt ^TT t *TT SVT* yr^rr I ? q^r 1toi% tfrfanfr ^ fftpm: frSwT ? ^ fRr fw?r arra’irr ? *9 0 " » Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Oral Answer» 3 o

PftOF. D. p. CHATTOPADHYAYA: National Textile Corporation of India. In these two mills the workers on rolls As I have alreajy said, this is one of are: the distinct possibility y~e jie consi- dering. As regards the second query, I Laxmi Ratan Cotton » would submit that v.o have no inten- Mills Ltd .. 2576 Atherton West tion to hand over the miils to those people who are responsible for ruining Mills .. .. 2666 them and dosing them down. The total njmber of workers involv- ed is 5242. Secondly, we ere in touch Amount advanced by Nationalised with the Government of U.P and we Banks to Marginal and Small had several rounds of discussions. It Farmers la a fact that the Hon. Finance Minis- ter, Hon. Industrial Minister and my- *88. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: self had some discussions fin the Will the Minister of FINANCE be matter. There are some alternative pleased to refer to the reply given to avenues which we are exploring and I Starred Question No. 253 on the 23rd can assure vru and through you the January, 1976 regarding Deposits in Hon. Member that a decision at the and credits advanced by nationalised earliest will be 1akcn Here the and other banks and state: managerial problem is the main problem because the State Government (a) the amounts avanced to the mar. is not in a position to manage these ginal and small farmers and rural arti- mills. Financial difficulties are also sans by the nationalised and other there. But we are in touch with the banks during the last three years, Finance Ministry. We hope an early State wise; solution could be found and when these (b) the number of persons belonging mills are reopened the dues of the to the weaker sections, who have heen labourers and other related problems Riven advances on the basis of Pre- will be certainly locked into. ferential Rates of Interest Scheme SHRI S. M. BANERTEE- I would during the above period; and like to know f^ TO the Hon. Minister (c) whether it is proposed to bring whether it is a fact that the Chief the whole country under this scheme? Minister of UP recently met the Hon. Minister and the Finance Minister and THE MINISTER OF FINANCE pleaded with them that these mills (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) to Should be faken over bv the National (c). A Statement is laid on the Table Textile Corporation of India fcecuusc of the House. >'t is merely not a question of 5000 workers but if you take inlo account the temporary workers it will come to Statement about 10,000 wno are really facing starvation fince last one year. I would Statewise data relating to outstand- ing advances of public sector banks like to know from the Hon Minister and other scheduled commercial banks whether a firm decision has now been to farmers with land holding up to 2.5 taken that these •‘wo mills will not be acres and between 2.5 acres and 5 acres handed over tj those persons like Mr. as at the end of March 1973, March Ram Ratan O.ipta who have ruined 1974 and September 1974 are set out these mills, bat it will be taken over in the Statement laid on the Table of by the National Textile Corporation erf India. the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT_ 10423/76], PJUQV. D.‘ P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: Present statistical reporting system Yes, it ls a fact that the Horn. Chief does not provide for compilation of Minister of IT.P. has requester! that data separately regarding bank credit these mills b© handed over to the to rural artisans’ as a specific group. 3* Oral Answers MARCH 12, 1076 Written Answer* 32

Data relating to outstanding advan- has been evolved and whether it will ces of public sector banks under the be done in future? This depends upon Differential Rates of Interest Scheme the coverage of the nationalised banks, are set out below:— particularly in rural areas and that is1 very Iimffed That is why for provid- ing better credit to the vulnerable sec- tions in rural areas, we are starting No of Amount Accounts Outstanding the rural banks Already 10 have been (In crores started and 5 more will be started of rupn.s) before 31st March The next year’s programme is to have at least 30 to 35 more Therefore, it is a question of D ectm ber 1973 2 3 0 6 6 1 TO 0 coverage Naturally commercial banks as they are constituted are not interest- December 1974 3 1 4 6 6 5 13 4 ed m this sort of thing That is why September 1975 391917 17 5 we are thinking m terms of alterna- tive credit institutions

While suggestions have been receiv- MR SPEAKER Question Hour is ed for modifying/extending the over Differential Interest Rates Scheme, as of date, no view has been taken in this regard. WHITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA The statement says that the present statis- tical reporting system does not provide Indian Cloth in Danger of losing for compilaion of data separately le- World Markets garding bank credit to ‘rural artisans’ *89 SHRI D D DESAI Will the as a specific group It also states that data relating to outstanding advances Minister of COMMERCE, be pleased to of public sector banks under the Dif- state ferential Rates of Interest Scheme had been received but no decision has been (a) whether the World Bank Mis- sion has sounded a warning that taken so far in this regard I would like to know whether we are at pre- Indian cotton textiles will be gradual- sent launching a drive against usury ly pushed out of the sophisticated in lhe rural side for reducing the n- wo*ld markets, debtedness of the rural poor, under the (o) if so, the reasons advanced by 20-point economic programme In this the Mission for this conclusion; and context, it is very important that ins- titutional credit to the marginal and (c^ the steps being taken to counter poor fanners should be expedited I thia trend? want to know why the extension of the scheme of preferential rates of interest throughout the country in all the dis- THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE tricts has not yet been considered and (PROF D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): whether it will be implemented Rural (a) to (c). No formal report on the artisans as a group are also under the subject has been received from the gnp of moneylenders and there are no World Bank. However, certain re- two opinions that they need assistance ports about some observations made for self-reliance and augmenting na- by the World Bank appearing in the tional production May I know why press have come to the notice of till now no separate scheme for them Government. 33 Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 :SAKA) Written Answers 34

Trade Agreement bctwNi India and Agencies for Rural Development) and W O e r a M a j other organisations affiliated to it were dealing in the export business *90. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- of silver, ivory and books; and NAN: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the particulars thereof? (a) whether an agreement was signed between India and West Ger- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE many at New Delhi recently in order MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (.SHRI to achieve self-sufficiency in synthe- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH)' (a) tic fibres; and and (b). There is no information at (b) if so, the main features there- present with us to show if any office- of? ] bearers of the Association mentioned or other organisations affiliated to it THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE have been exporting anything. Infor- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI mation on the subject is however being VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): collected. (a) An agreement between the Gov- ernment 'of India, the Government of Federal Republic of Germany and the Calicut Airport United Nations Development Pro- gramme for establishment of a demons *92. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: tration plant for the production of Will the Minister of TOURISM AND synthetic fibres was signed on 12th CIVIL AVIATION be pleasel to state: February. 1976 (b) The Federal Republic of Ger- (a) at what stage is now the cons- trof Calicut airport; and many and UNDP will provide equip- ment, expertise and training facilities valued at DM 5.0 million and US (b ) when it is likely to be complet- • 7,35,000 plus or minus 15 per cent ed? respectively for the project. The Gov- THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND ernment of India will provide at its CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- expense (presently estimated to be DUR): (a) and (b). The project for R<3 l.98.5f>.600) all other contributions construction of an Aerodrome at Cali- necessary for the establishment opera- tion and maintenance of th»a project, cut was included in the Draft Fifth Five Year Plan. Land was acquired including premises, installations, locally available equipment, raw materials, and fenced at Calicut However, due to increase in the cost of operation utilities and stafT The profcc* will be consequent on hike in prices of avia- executed by Silk and Art Silk Mills Research Association (SASMIRA), one tion fuel and also to their tight float of the Co-operative Research Associa- position, Indian Airlines had to review tion* nf tv>p Council of Scientific and their plana and found themselves un- able to operate to Calicut in the Fifth Industrial Research. Plan. Bombay— Calicut—Cochin is Export ^ ofRop-bearers of Associa- one of the nine routes offered to non- tion of Voluntary AjenHfs for Rural scheduled operator-, by Director Development General of Civil Aviation. One or two non-scheduled on^retors have ♦91. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: shown interest to operate air services Will the Minister of COMMERCE be on this route and their application is pleased fc> state* under consideration. A private own- (n't whpther gome office-bearers of ed airstrip near Calient is proposed AVARD (Association of Voluntary to be improved for these operations. 2759 LS—3 35 Written Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Written Answers 36

Valve of Kopee Civ il Aviation has submitted its re- •98 SHRI N K SANGHI Will the port, pnd Minuter ol FINANCE be pleased to (b) it so, its recommendations and state the fcteps taken to implement them? (a) whether with the fall m prices THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND of essential commodities and arrest CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- ol run-away inflation, the value of DUR) (a) Yes, Sir rupee has increased since the imposi- tion of emergency in the country, (b) A statement containing the (b) jf so the facts thereof, and main recommendations of the Com- (c) whether theie has been a J»uni mittee is placed on the Table of the lar strengthening of the value of Sabha The recommend atiors of the rupee in the interna tional market as Committee are under Governments compared to the position obtaining consideration two years ago’ Statement THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (1) Organisation (SHRI C SUBRAM AN IAM) (a) and (b) The internal purcha* 1 g pewtr The Civil Aviation Department of the rupee, as measuied by move- should be redesignated ' C ^il Aviation ment') m the All India Working Class Authority retiming all ts prewnt Consumer Price I^dex (196U=100) constitutional and f unct on ll c haracte- rose from ^0 49 paise in terms of I960 nstics as a Government c*cp irfment prices m June 1975 towards the end of which the Emergency w’sis promul- (2) Personnel. gated, to 33 56 paise in Tm lary 1976 A new service be ere \te0 to be call (c) The value of the ruoee m the ed the Civil Awation S“r\ict for all internation'll m irket need not neces- gazetted officers, oi the Ci 11 Aviation sarily show -variations similar to the Department engaged m t^chi ic 1] tasks, changes in its internal purchasing preceded by discussions \ ith the re- power since the exchange rate ^f the prescntatives of the vanous gazetted rupee is also affected by developments cadres concerned m the exchange markets ibrend ns well (3) Training and Licensing as m the exchange system The new exchange rate system adonted from A (.entrei Flung School bt set up S'Sth September 1975 is d«sutned to and operated by the Ciul Aviation adjust the rupees exchange rite in Department ior the niti d training of response to both internal and external commercial pilots While this school developments Accordingly the R*1 is progressively built up more imme- serve Bmk hn« on 11th 'Marrh 1976 diate measures are required to improve refixed thP middle rite fnt its sales the standard of Flying Club* which and purchases of pound sterling at should continue to tram p ots upto Rs 17 25 which compares w th the the level of Private Pilot s Litcnce relative!v lower rate of Rs 18 80 n (PPL). March 1074 (4) The Civil Aviation Training Tata Committee Report Centre at Allahabad be strengthened and modernised for the training of Air *S4 SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA Traffic Control (ATC) and Electronics HALDER personnel SHRI TAGANNATH MISHRA (5) Flight Inspection Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state A system of independent checking by (a) whether the Tata Committee on the Director General of Ci /)1 Aviation Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written Answers

the proficiency of flving crews ol (8) Civil Aviation Advisory Board: Airlines be introduced, and that for this purpose a Flight Inspection Direc- A Civil Aviation Advisory Board, be torate be created as P « t of the Air set up under the chairmanship of the Safety Wing of the .’’lvil Aviation De- Secretary, Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation, to advise Govprnmenl partment on all matters of ci *"1 aviation policy and administration. <6) Accident Investigation and Air safety: Expansion Programme of Air India The investigation of senous accidents *95 SHRI Y ESWARA REDDY*' be transferred to an Accident Investi- gation Commission in the Ministry of Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION Le pleased to states Tourism and Civil Aviation reporting direct to the Minister (a) whether Air India is reconsider- ing it<3 expansion programme m re- A small hjgh power committee be gard to acquiring more Boeing Jumbo appointed to prescribe or approve pro- jets, „nd * cedures to be followed by the Commis- lb) if so, the facts and reasons sion and the Director General of Civil th »rpfcr? Aviation m the investigate 1 of air accidents, to analyse and evaluate re- THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND ports °n serious accidents to assess CTV1L AVIATION (SHKI RAT BAHA- the working of the accident investiga- DUR) (a) and (b) The draft Fifth tion commission and the Directorate Plan of Air India mov'des for the puis* of Air Safety and to advise Govern- chase of three wide-bodied sub sonic ment on air safety generally jet aircraft. Against this one Boeing- 747 has already been obtained in (7) An ports December 19?1} The purchase ol mother such aircraft is presertly un- The Civil AviaiKn Department df*r the consideration of the Corpora- should undertake a comprehensive re- tion view of all civil aerodromes in India and prepare a detailed phased pro- gramme of construction an^i develop- Aft Fervices between India and Inu( ment for which the lepartment should *96 SHRT HART SINGH Will the establish a well organised A '’•part'? Minister of TOURISM AND CIVH* Planning Cell AVIATION be pleasfc* to state The Government should attach a (a) wliethei Government are aware high degree of priority to ensuring trut Irtq wants better and more fre- that fiie fighting services at all air- quent aii service^ between Baghdad ports m India and particularly the and Indian cities like Delhi and Bom- international and majnr airports are bav, ctnd adequately equipped, staffed a.id train- Ib^ if so, Government’s reaction ed Fire Fighting Services thereon? Design and construction work by the Central Public Works Department be THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND undertaken in future by a special CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- Mechanical and Electrical Engineering DUR) : (a) Ye&, Sir The Iraq Air>- Wing set up within the Civil Aviation ways who are operating a weekly ter- Department, headed by a senior Direc- minating service to Delhi initially tor of the rank of Superintending requested for a second frequency tn Engineer. India Subsequently, they requested fat extension of the existing service, when Preventive Detention of Smug- Baghdad—Delhi, to Bangkok and glers was started, to 31st January Kuala Lampur with Boeing-* 7?7 air- 1976. The rewaid is not admissible to craft with effect from 1st April 1976 staff who were under suspension or the aircraft to be replaced by BOeing- who were given notices of retirement. 7f7 with effect from 5th July, 1976. Payment of Deamesg Allowance t» (b) Government are considering Central Government Employees sending a Civil Aviation Delegation tr> Iraq for discussions on these matters *99. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Payment of Extra Salary to the Staff to state: in Income Tax and other (a) whether sixth instalment of Departments Dearness Allowance has been paid to •97. SHRI 3LHASMO DE SEQUEIRA' the Central Government employees; Will the Minister of FINANCE be and pleased to state: (b) if not, when this is likely to be (a ) whether sanction has been paid? i3sued for payment of one month’s basic Day for the meritorious work THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ®one fcy the staff of income tax and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI other departments under the Ministry SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) and (b): ct France; The Consumer Price Index figures (b) the categoricg of such staff in have come down sharply in recent each department which will be bene- months; and, according to latest avail- fited; and able indications, not only the monthly indices for November, 1975, December, (c) whether any minimum provi- 1975 and January 1976, but also the sions of qualification has been speci- 12-monthly average has gone down fied? below the 320 mark. The matter will have to be considered in this context. THE MINISTER OP STATE 1N- The Government will consult the re- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF presentatives of the employees before REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI taking a final decision. PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) and (b). Orders have been passed Credit from World Bank Sanct;omng one month’s bawc Day for meritorious work to all the stair of *100 SHRI P. GANGADEB- Will Income tax and olhcr Revenue Depart- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased ments, including the staff working in to state* the Revenue Wins nf the Ministiy of Finance. (a) whether any negotiations have recently been held with World Bank (c) In the , for credit to India; the reward will be admissible to the (b) if so, the broad features there- staff who were on duty during the of; and period from 1.10.75 to 31.12.75, con- forming broadly to the period of Volun- (c) total number of credits, World tary Disclosure Schorr*. ln the Cus Bank has extended to India so far toms. Central Excise and Narcotic? during the current financial year? Departments, the reward will be ad- ih&Sible to persons who wer'* or. actual THE MINISTER OF FINANCE chjty for a period of at least ten months (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) and ^UHhg the period 17th September 1974, (b). An agreement has been signed on Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written Answers 42,

56th February, 1976 with the Interna- Recruitment Body for Appoifttnftente tional Development Association tor a In Public Sector Undertakings credit of $ 200 million for import of 445 SHRI R R SINGH DEO Witt raw materials, components and spares the Mimser of FINANCE be pleased for selected priority mdustnes, both in to state the private and public sectors, regis ttered with the Directorate General of (a) whether Government propose Technical Development to set up a centralised recruitment agency for Public Sector Undertak- The credit carries no interest but ings, only a service charge of 3/4 of I per cent per annum and is repayable in 50 (b) if so, main featuics of the pro- years with a grace period ol 10 yeais posal , and (c) So far 11 IDA Credits totalling (c) when is it likely to be finalis- to US $ 817 million and one World ed? Bank loan for $100 million have been extended by the World Bank Group THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to India during the current financial MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI year SUSHILA ROHATGI) (a) to (c): Under the new managerial personnel Appointment of a separate Develop- policy for Public Sector the Govern- ment Commissioner for Handloom ment have constituted a Public Enter* Industry prises Selection Board (PESB) with 444 SARDAR SWARAN SINGH the responsibility tor selecting persons SOKHI Will the Minister of COM- foi appointment as Chairman- both MERCE be pleased to state part time and full time- and Manag- ing Directors for .ill Public Sector (a) whether a separate Doveljp- Enterprises owned or managed by the xnent Commissioner for Handlocm C entral Government othei than those Industry lhas been appointed, in the field of insurance and banking. In the ta«-e of all full time Fxecutive/ (b) if so, the function^ of the Com- Function d Directors the administra- •snissioner, and tive Ministry will constitute Selection Committees which will have a repre- (c) protections given by him to sentative trom the PESB The powers 'weavers’ to make appointments to all posts below Board 'evel have been delegated HIE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to the Boards of the Enterprises How- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ever, m the selection of third level VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) posts 7 e General Managers the Secre- Yes Sir tary of the PESB would also be involv- ed m the selection orotedures For (b) and (c) The Development Com- till posts below the Board level, the «njsooner for Handlooms will pay ex- enterprises mav wherever necessary, clusive attention to the handloom sec obtain suitable names from the Data tor particularly for its revitalisaticm Bank maintained b\ the Secretariat of and development with a view to bene PESB in the Bureau of Public Enter- fiting the handloom weaver and enab prises and consider them alongwith ling him to comnete more effectively other applicants and internal candi- m the market dates Schemes of development have to be implemented by the State Govrnments Thus a cetitra’ised recruitment sys- and the Centre along with financial tem operates m resoect of selection of institutions The Development Com- incumbents of Top Posts at the Board missioner will serve as a focal point level m the various public enterprises. tor ensuring the required coordination, With regard to the posts below the 43 W ritten Aiwtoer* MARCH 1^ 1076, Written Answers

Board level, there is no such centralis- (b) if so, amount of such assistance t s feetfttttmttftt ggttteM ' "n^r 'te lt kw* given during the last three year&. posed to net up su<5h a system, having year-wise; l«gard to the powers delegated to the enterprises. However, with regard to (c) whether the training given is the selection for posts below the Board not employment-linked and as a re- level, the Boards of the enterprises are sult, after heavy expenditure, the required to make the necessary screen, trained pilots remain unemployed; ing and selection arrangements, keep, and ing in mind the broad guidelines that (d) if so, whether Government n a y be prescribed by the Public Enter, propose to review its approach to- prises Selection Board. wards these clubs and make them more purposeful than at present? Opening of Branches by Punjab National Bank In Tanni Devi and Jahu, Hamirpur District (Himachal THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND Pradesfa) CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ < 445. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PA- BAHADUR): (a): Yes, Sir. RASHAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) Period Subsrdy/subvcnticn paid (a) whether the Punjab National Ltkhs. flank, the lead bank for Hamirpur 1-3-72 10 28-2-73 22-05 District of Himachal Pradesh has planned to open its branches at (1) 1-3-73 to 28-2-74 16-93 Tauni Devi and (2) Jahu in the 1-3-74 to 28-2-75 14-1 £ Hamirpur District; and (b) if so, the likely date by which (c) Training given at the flying necessary licences would be issued by clubs is primarily intended to promote Reserve Bank of India for the airmindedness amongst the youth of purpose and the date by which the the country. However, such of those branches would be set up? who desire to make aviation their career, get trained for a Commercial THE MINISTER OP STATE IN- Pilot’s Licence. There are about 200 CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT CPL holders unemployed at present. OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Government have taken the following FRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): steps to assist them for securing em- |(a) Yes, Sir. ployment: (b): The Reserve Bank of India have seported that Punjab National Bank (1) Rules for direct recruitment to are being permitted to open their the post of Assistant Aerodro- offices at Tauni Devi and Jahu in me Officer in the Civil Avia- Hamivpur District, Himachal Pradesh. tion Department were amend- These offices are expected to be open- ed to include Commercial Pi- ted during the current, year. lot’s Licence as one of the ac- ceptable qualifications. Assistance to Flying Clubs (2) Indian Airlines and Air India 447. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- have been advised to utilize 3HUNWALA: Will the Minister of unemployed commercial pilots TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION wherever possible. be pleased to state: (3) State Governments have been (a) whether Government give any requested to give considera- mgdhetimce to flying dubs in tfae coun- tion to CPL holders for em- try to subsidise the cost of training ployment under them where* lor the |$udent»; ever possible. 45 Written Answers FHAL^UNA 22, W87 :$AKA) W ritten Answers 4$

(d) Government have reviewed its *r it t arrsfV « n - w «pt approach. At present, flyin* at the jp tr^Rnr «ftr wrrqrr «Tf?T, aft "^,’^ffsy CPTT ?TT f TT ^3T ^rp, 5?mTT v n fww *?rt ^ « 1 srrfr «nrr 1 1 fa •

(*T) ffT 3R«rcv, 1976 % International Flight from Calcutta TTffi Sffift *PI 5TWT 132 5 6 449. SHRI PRIYA RAN JAN DAS WTrte * 3 5 ^ 6402 68 ^?J3r£T MUNSI: Will the Minister of TOURI- SM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased »m f to state:

(*sr) w ^*fr 5UT»‘ jt>st (a) whether any effortg have been made by his Ministry to sufficiently ?T1?TT 96 24 "FT^T ^ BRf increase the international flights, zrar 64 n8.94

(»r) TfrfT, ’ft t*rr st t rrT (b) if so, the facts thereof; and 5Tfo^ ’ (c) reasons for which Government are unable to operate the flights of Air India Jumbo Jet from Calcutta fimifsft g « p * w ) : airport? ( v ) ( * ) 30 1976 «T> W CT %\ Tft ifrefr THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ ir 47 24 tfr ^*fV BAHADUR): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, TSf f o h Tinrtt, 19 76 ^ Every possible effort is being made to *p-?=rr?r ir ^nr 6402 58 wft* v* v increase flights through Calcutta. Cal- cutta is invariably offered as a point of srte •r^.T *T *T, 132. 5(y call of foreign airlines whenever route *|fV *fa[ f o f l f eft «f> I SfTTT Schedules to Bilateral Air Services TrfV fspIT ITT ^ TTST Cr q W Agreements are negotiated. Presently, we have Bangladesh Biman, British sr^fV, m7<> *r 49 05 Airways, Royal Nepal Airlines Corpo- gjV wrifr s f «t>, 3»rir •ct* % ration, Scandinavian Airlines System, Thai Airways and Burma Airways ST 96 21 T»'nr vV ^ 3 ft *r$ operating through Calcutta, in addition ?r'fr « ty.T^r, 1976 Tt to Air India and Indian Airlines. With «n?r ¥TWT 6108 94 iFrte effect from April 1976, Aeroflot have been authorised to operate through 1 Calcutta in both directions.

(*t) ifte aprar % Tra 37- The East-bound flights concerned are. from Calcutta to Dacca, Rangoon, f w ^srr ffT q;* *pt f i Singapore, Bangkok, Hongkong, Mani- T # r q w * *$ sfhrt *ncTT la, Tokyo and Osaka. Aeroflot have 4t ****** Antttar. tfAKCH 12, Iff# ttritfe* 46 been permitted to operate from Mos- cow to Calcutta and thence to Kuala Lumpur/Singapore. 4Si. iHnr : m (c) Air India propose operating a W ftm ft m «RTT% fftT i W terminating/originating service from far : Calcutta to the West with Boeing-707 effective 1st November, 1976. In re- ( v ) v r wnr gard to Boeing 747 services through Calcutta, as the filth Boeing 747 air- fa * W t fa*rr | iftx craft is proposed to be operated on w ^ f^ »ft wz t «rfa?r the India Australia rout, there is at present no Boeing 747 spare capacity with. Air India to operate to Calcutta. Nevertheless, the question of extending (*¥) Cflmr % saiRTT one of the present Boeing-747 services ftr ^rr *fi% terminating at Bombay to Calcutta is being given high priority by Air India W?T$ SPTTf *1$ t, ?T> - 3 ^ and this is likely to materialise effec- l$©r ®T^ f?TT t ? tive 1st April, 1977. unfunwr («ft SRTP* ) : (*r) 1974— Construction of Hotel* In Public 75 ^Vrr?r fa * twt v t r^rr^r Sector wt ftnr&T f^rr w r «ri, k t — 450. SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH: f-w rjr, %%£, w , jtw , Will the Minister of TOURISM AND stftW sW wt*, ?PTr CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to TnfTgpr «rfr m % state: 5.34.33 TO I (a) number and location of hotels, likely to be constructed during the { * ) sqTspp* j m ^TT current financial y-ar in public *ec- ^TT "3 3T£T% % f'TTT *>£ sft^RT tcr; and (b) what would be the estimated cost of each hotel? *r«r s&wSjrtew qpr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND 452. *ft n*roiT*r : w r CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SUREN- w * Jim f w H areft ^ DRA PAL SINGH;; (a) and (b). During the current financial year, $1'T v H f a : 1975-76 the India Tourism Develop- ment Corporation, a public sector (8fT) T O % ’TTTcT undertaking, has commissioned two w ?t {sr t o frppr % new hotels at Calcutta and Kovalam at an estimated cost of Rs. 3Q0 lakhs =FTi ir ^ ST? rp^ fepSTfil and Rs. 160 lakhs respectively. The fWT iftT Hotel Corporation of India, a subsi- diary of Air India, have also comple- (fw ted a hotel at Bombay at an estimat- ed cost of Rs. 6$0 lakhs. I ? 4 $ W ritten Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written Answers &

ffen ifrc *n*nt ftwwf unww txpa^ PetferiMtitf 9 t m «hft («ft g t a fiw f & i ): ' 454. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will file (v) far). *rm q’h^r flm* Minister of COMMERCE be pleased f* m % *f rrwr jftesr 3nn% % to state: f^tr p*r irrffeff (a) details of major items earported % f*rt£ itaar sr^i vnrrT If vrdy in the current year upfto 31st DeceiA-, ber, 1975 quantity and value-wise and f*rar f( i TT3JT t o >t t how do these figures compare with «wi£tT *ra t!(T i Hprgr4?TT past two years’ performance for the *fS*WfaT #TTT VT ^T*T STTTV same period; and 1r*TT »WT & I (b) if there is a decline, the reasons thereof?

farm THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 453. «ft j**r *?* w pw r: tot VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): «rfc *n»rt 8 w r * ^nr ^ (a). India's overall exports during the first nine months of the current fr.7 sift f¥ : ftnnancial year ending December, 1975 amounted to Rs. 2689.5 crores ( ^ ) TO7TT gri^r 5PS 1 9 7 2 -7 3 , showing an increase of 14.6 per cent over the exports of Rs 2346 4 crores 197J-74 ?r>T 1974-7-5 *T t o - m the corresponding period of the f^T f%^r% JTP3T T’’ nJf previous year. Commodity wise de- fVqr^r f ^ i t f s*wr *r«nr tails of exports for the period April- December, 1975 are not yet available. *TT, TSftr TTT»T isrfte Jf-JT «TT; (b) Does not arise.

( jst) wr fwnfr % Purchase of Aircraft by Indian Airlines s t o t sirk fa^ r *> grar trer«r «ftr % oTR % fair *TT t» 455. SHRI : Will the £ *rfc oT, ?ft rt^T ^ ff % fqT Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: I ? (a) whetiher Indian Airlines pur- chased aircraft from the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation of United States *Sw x/tx *m firam »?W at any time and if so, the facts («ft tw n^iyc) : (v ) sr*%fr thereof; faansr *t *rf I, aft *rtrr t* (b) whether the attention of Gov- v a *r£ £ 1 [**twra *f twt »W— ernment has been drawn to the re- $ fe q n^trr trsfo j Yo 10424/70] port that the above Corporation made secret pay-off to purchasing officiate of foreign countries; (If) g-^fTT % *R*TT «!% f«s faRTfff^ ?w > r ffT5r> qrfetff (c) whether Government have in- vestigated if any Indian official was 51TT STS rrjf ^TT ?TR{fV involved in such under-hand deal; % % W f (W3T 5#) and % f^mr fw ^TT^r 11 (d) if so, the facts thereof? gi Wfji&en Awwerg MARCH 12, 1976 W ritten Anawtt* 52

THE WNISXER ..O f TOURISM in the market a new variety of doth AND c r m AVIATION (SHRI RAJ “Jafcata ftfbfto*; BAHADUR):

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TT W I IH MINISTRY OP CO&MERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): 456. *ft in n : (a) Yes, Sir. wt spiT w w fa r: (b) At present Dhoti, Saree, Pop- line, Grey Long doth, Bleached Long cloth, Prints, blankets and bed sheets t H- srrant s 'm t ; for poor and middle class consumers will be sold at a margin of not more (^r) *®rr qm"r m w c (Tr^^rH) than 20 per cent over ex-mill price. The goods will be better than con- if w tf wrerr ^>=fr aT*r*fr ^ trolled cloth in appearance, finish and irfa ?r, *r> ^ *rrar crfr construction, and conform to the 9 consumer requirement and taste. The price will be stamped in blue colour on every metre of the cloth. TTSR* fw i % wrrft (c). The “Janata Fabrics*' will be TOtfifsft («ft sm fwmpnff ): sold at uniform price throughout w srH ( g ) . ?r irrfV India from the out-lets of National suffer ffT*far srtorr n*rr I Textile Corporation or outlets linked with the distribution system of gft ^rarjT *rnfrr f ^ 'i % m % National Textile Corporation. m ^r t t tarTT 1 m & w *trt ( ^ t ) , srprrsfV (w f\ x), 9TfdW7 (3RT5T) STtT =RT? (^npJT) Powerloom Complex in Kerala 4 1 ^ srran? sr>fr % *rq% ®pto- 458. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: asr *r sitt xfrr f t srr^Trr Will the Minister of COMMERCE be f^rrt sqr^Tir farm pleased to state: snr r^r | \ (a) whether he laid the foundation stone of a powerloom complex in Softer *r*ffor Kerala recently; % «TT> if TOT7 fsRH' «pr % I (b) if so, the main features of the project and by what time it is ex- Janata Fabrics pected to be completed;

457. SHRI B. S. BHAURA; Will (c) whether the Centre has extend- the Minister of COMMERCE be ed any kind of assistance for this pleased to state: project; and

(a) -whether the National Textile (d) it so, the broad features there- Corporation hag decided to introduce of? Written Answers PHALGUNA 22,1897 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE a ftw r f (l?oS o) MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAp SINGH): (a) , No, Sir. ffTTT fa * *1* *E«r

(h ) Does not arise. 46 0. (c) No, Sir. ftm ^ ^TrTT% fa : (d) Does not arise. [tfo STo) fsr^TT Jr fpnr TTe’favt-iT CUMmre of Cauvery Spinning and srrr 1 sre^fy, 1975 % 15 Weaving Mills Limited at Pudukkottai 197^ ^ fm r District In Tamil Nadu fft T ^^ftrTT % f^tT ^ «r f^ T 459. SHRI S A. MURUGANAN- THAM- WiU the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: {3 ) flN f *ft % (a) whether Government’s atten- ftsFiT w forr % fawj tion has been drawn to the reported 3?r *rrar ^ f^rr »pt t tffa: closure of the Cauvery Spinning and ^TT TRW % ? Weaving Mills Limited at Pudukkot- tai District in Tamil Nadu due to mismanagement; m n w sftr ftnrrn % snrnft

(b) whether the State Unit of the tt^dtsrw$*rrt ): A&l India Trade Union Congress has demanded the take-over of this mill spft ^f?rr?T 5PTRV % v n jir by NTC; »,t sqr^t tTTsr ^ (c) whether the State Government aft srfpr 3r*T fer^rr * T qfT^njr thereto’ £>rr t, w r , ^ % xrfai THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TTfT 3T> Prsnrfire % > r MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI if Trrn^ sNftfrf £ 1 m , VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): fV^iTefTT % ?rr=r 3q*r**j st^IT (a) to (d). Cauvery Spinning and Weaving Mills has been lying closed 1 iit 4 % % 5T7 Jr ? 1 since 1-12-75. Earlier eJso its work- m rrn"^ ing had been interrupted. Commu- * m , w t t t'V % twt *>t m v r nications have been received from the Tamil Nadu Government and 9f T, f'^r g also from Alii India Trade Union ^rcfr % vrrn 1 02

HTTtVif f W frf? % TtTR * ^ tfr*#r countries in manufactures and arrcft manufactures requiring not freer access for them to the marlf&ti * 1 of developed countries but also mea- sures to improve their export capa- city; reiterate adoption of differential

The Conference considered all the (a) whether Rajasthan Government issues hi great detail and agreed had urged the Centra] Government inter alia to: support the integrated to set up a dry port at Bharatpur; programme; for commodities press for and comprehensive strategy to expend a (b) if so, Government’s reaction *w! diversify trade of developing thereto? j|7 W fittm PH AW 30N A 22. 1897 (& 4& A ) Written Answers yS

j m DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER O f TOURISM JTO1STRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI fjlpHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): BAHADUR): (a), No, Sir. (ft). Yes, Sir. (b) and (c). A proposal to develop ld but not lifted. The of credit, which had been accepted above figure forms about five weeks by Indian Banks before that date. production, which is not considered abnormal to cause concern. (c) Does not arise. Agartala Airport

464. SHRI DASARATHA DEB: Travel Agents Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: 466. SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Will the- Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL (a) whether the runway of Agar- AVIATION be pleased to state: tala Airport has been made suitable for landing of Boeing aircraft; (a) whether Government are aware- (b) if not, when is it likely to be of the reported cheating by travel done and regular Boeing service ope- agents in Delhi and Bombay; and rated there; and (b) if so, the names of the person* (c) the expenditure likely to be In- apprehended in this connection so* curred thereon? far? <59 W ritten Answer* M ARCS 12, 1170 W ritten Atwirxr* 4k>

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATK.ttf- I B B MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CHARGE OF TIPS DgPARTM&fr CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SUKEN- OF REVENUE AND BAftKXtfO DRA PAL SINGH): (a) and a result of search and sei- 469. SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY: zure operations conducted by the Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Income-tax authorities throughout pleased to state: the country from January, 1975 to January, 1976 (both months inclu- (a) whether as many as 100 out of sive) cash of over Rs. 400 lakhs, and 223 joint venture projectg abroad other assets of the value of over approved by the Government of 1803 lakhs were seized. India, have been abandoned by the Indian industrialists;

Daeoits and Wagon breakers within (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and th« purview of Income-tax (c) whether Government propose to check this tendency? 468, SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: Win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TH* MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether attention of Govern- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): ment has been drawn to the state- (a). Yes, Sir. ment made by Shri K. Srinivasan, Income-tax Commissioner in Calcutta (b). Main reasons for non-imple- on 6th February, 14)76 that dacoits mentation or abandoning of projects, and wagon breakers too are within as reported by concerned Indian In- ibe purview of income-tax; dustrialists, are the difficulties in finding suitable local collaborators/ (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- backing out of local collaborators, ■men^ thereto; and and changes in the economic and other conditions in the host countries, (c) the total amount collected from affecting the production and market them 00 far? prospects. * Wrfttfcft Aiw oer* PHALGUNA 22, 1887 (SAK A> W ritten Antftoer* 6».

AT the p**t. there had also botn, Lifting of export ban m i man-made on the part of Indian Industrialists, fibre jftp a^er~estimation and inadequate comprehension of problems relating 471. SHRI M. KALYANA- to raising of finances, managemAit SUNDRAM: and marketing of goods. The pro- SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHALI: jects were tried to be implemented without proper investment surveys. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state:

(c). Procedure of approvals has (a) whether recently export in- been rationalised and the approvals quiries for about 2000 tonnes of fibre are now granted only after detailed yarn have been made; scrutiny of technical and financial (b) whether in view of this, Gov- viability of the proposed projects, ernment propose to lift the export Which has borne fruitful results. ban on man-made fibre; and (c) if so, facts thereof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE- Low cost packaging materials for MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Tea VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a). Yes, Sir. 470 SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHALI: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be (b) and (c) No, Sir The Gov- pleased to state: ernment’s policy is to allow export of finished products like fabrics, made-ups and garments and not fibre (a) whether tea traders are in or yarn. The demand for disclose search of low cost packaging mate- staple fibre has picked up in the do- rials; mestic market and there are no spe- * cial circumstances to consider the (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and export of viscose staple fibre even on an ad hoc basic. (c) how far would use of these packages tieJp the tea industry? if wfir

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 472. : WT _r*___ __ 1 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) ft (a). Yes, Sir. ifw> X ® (b). Apart from the consideration am % ij?qr *r 60 srfasrr tfV of the continuing trend of price in- i f , crease of good quality plywood tea wfa* f <4tests, many of the overseas buyers would prefer to receive their tea in ( « ) *rf^ st , eft *prr •awitainers which are easily disposable. I ; (c). Availability of a low cost (n) *TT substitute would enable the tea in- sfafa” ^ v ft % <$?*? dustry to reduce the cost of bulk packaging of tea. srr»*r m %Hx W itte* Anfr)*rt MAWE& llntft WH$tm An**m H

( * ) *Tfe n t 'TtUTT * 3 «T IPWHta w wittr fey) : (fr) m ^ s State Governments; 3 ^SFT SW qft *T ^35 (b) whether there has been 8.1 per cent increase over the outstand- 4fJr s f > eo'srfwr ^ i ing debts at the end of March, 197ft; and

(»a) i t t t t *rr*r ^rr fT»T *f ars (c) if so, the reasons ttierefor?

WTTT *tq*TT f%f5T*rf?mfr SRT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE *Y Tfft m 5PT W C T fiWT 3T*fT MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) According 5r s** ^r-^r ^ 1 1 to the State Budgets for 1975-76, the total debt of the States is estimated at Rs. 13746 crores as on 31-3-1976. (*r) aft *r£r i (b) The figure given in (a) above is (*) JT?fT «T^t 35TT I an estimate based on State Budget*. The actuals will be available only after the current financial year is over.

(c) The increase in the States’ debt Demand for Handloom ready-mad* garments is on account of the higher develop- mental outlays being implemented by them as compared to the previous yeaT. 473 SHRI P. R. SHENOY: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: Joint ventures between India and Socialist countries (a) whether demand for handloom 475. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL readymade garments has been in- BHATIA: Will the Minister of COM- creasing in foreign countries; and MERCE be pleased to state:

(b) if so, the incentives given by (a) whether India is trading on Government to the exporters ol favourable terms with Socialist coun- these garments? tries o f Eastern Europe; (b) if so, whether a study prepared THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE for the United Nations Conference MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI on Trade and Development has VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): underlined the scope for export by (a) Yes, Sir. India of consumer goods; (c) whether the study has (b) Apart from import replenish- underlined the scope of collaboration ment as provided for in the IT.C. between India and Socialist countries Policy (Vol II) and duty draw back, in setting up joint venture* in third exports of handloom garments are countries; and eligible for assistance at specified rates tinder the Indian Cotton Mills? Federa- (d) if so, Government’* tion's Incentive Scheme. thereon? $5 Written Answers PH A lG U N A 22, 1897 {SAKA) Written Answers 66

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Cxyort vt C«C«» MINISTRY OF COMMEBCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): 477. SHRI DHAMANKAR; Will the* (a) Yes, Sir. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) The study suggests, among other areas, the need to examine the scope (a) the number of coffee estates for exports of ‘'consumer products in the country and the plans for irom the engineering sector”. expansion of coffee cultivation; (c) Yes, Sir. (b) India’s coffee exports in terms of quantity and value as against its. (d) The ideas and observations production during the last three brought out in the study have already years; and been receiving the attention of the Government. (c) who are the main buyerg of coffee abroad and whether afiy con- tracts have been entered info ’with any foreign countries recently for the U.N. Conference on Trade and supply of coffee to them? Development THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE. 476. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Will the Minister of COMMERCE be VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): pleased to state: (a) The number of coffee holdings in the country is 80,987. Based on the (a) whether Government’s atten- schemes received from State Govern* tion has been drawn to the news- ments of Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and item published in Indian Express Assam, which are non-traditional dated 10th Februf^y, 1976 regarding areas, the Coffee Board has drawn up study prepared by Shri Yoginder K. a tentative project for extension of Alagh of Sardar Patel Institute of coffee cultivation in these States cover* Economics and Social Research at ing an additional area of 18,550 acres. Ahmedaibad for the United Nations Besides, another additional area o f Conference on Trade and Develop- about 8,000 acres suitable for coffee- ment; and cultivation may also be available in the traditional coffee producing States. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern- The operational aspects of the project ment thereto? are yet to be finalised in consultation with Planning Commission, Coffee THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Board and the concerned State Govern- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ments. VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) (» (a) and (b) Government has seen the study prepared bv Shr Yogmde’- K Export Pi odueuoa Alnah 'ormerly of S'irdar Patel Insti- Y «i Qty/ Valui Tonnes tute oi Economics and Social Research. Tonr.es Rs./Crores Ahmedabad, lor the UNCTAD Secre- tariat. and have noted with interest its findings and observations. Many of 1972-73 50,856 32 93 62,554 the observations made in the study, 1973-74 52>688 46 01 90,630 like suggestion for examining the scope for export of engineering goods to 1974-75 49*467 Ji-36 85*954 East European countries and joint ven- tures in third countries have already (c) U.S.A., Canada, West & East been receiving the attention of the European countries, Australia etc. Con- Government tracts for export of 1£,500 tonnes of 2758 LS—4. a;;;;.■ v : ■■' ■: - ■■■ r. .■ . f7 Written Answers

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Airport* i « W * the salaries of the employees to reco- ver tibte e**Ms -frayajent *t bofcus ac- 479. SHRI BISHWANARAYAN cording to new Act; and SHASTRI: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be (b) whether this order violates the pleased to state: assurance given cm the floor of the Lok Sobha by him that the new A ct (a) whether any steps have been will not affect the L.I.C. employees, taken to provide amenities to the who will receive the bonus according travelling public at the airports in to their previous agreement with the Assam; authorities?

(b) whether civil airports are pro- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE posed to be constructed in Jorhat and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Teapur; and SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) No Sir. (c) whether Mohanbari airport (b) Does not arise. which has been abandoned is propos- ed to be repaired for use by Indian Traftanw ffTTT Airlines? _ -- ft _____ nvwm f f l t f WWW THE MINISTER OP TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- 481. envtw DUR): (a) Essential amenities for *RT filW lT?ft ^ ¥*TT *F^T passengers are available at civil aero- f% dromes at Gauhati, Silchar, Mohanbari North Lakhimpur and Rupsi. («r ) *prr k t w t j f w r w (b) The Civil Aviation Department srrcr t far wwt n m m propose to develop civil enclaves at Jorhat and Tezpur to provide adequate passenger handling facilities. ^ f ;

(c) Mohanbari aerodrome has not (jf) WT ?TWTT fofr vfr been abandoned. Due to inadequate fw m n §f£f*F3Fr Strength of the runway. Indian Airlines *fr srn f^r t o ^ r are presently operating Boeing 737 and other services to the Defence airfield t o t, w n 3tt rp %, at Chabua. The development of Mohan- srV bari aerodrome to make it suitable for Boeing 737 operations will be con- (*r) qfe ? t , m ^ sidered as soon as resources position improves. As a phase I programme it is proposed to resurface the runway in 1976-77 to facilitate services with Tiapp* tffa snrrft F-27 and HS-748 aircraft. 5*nr ): («f ) ^ (»r). w^rSsrr % fMta Recovery of Bonus from Salaries of L.I.C. Employees irfa m r ?rrrft«r eM n sftt- ?wt Wt«T $r Bht’w n rtv t 480. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: Will the Minister ol FINANCE be o t pleased to state: ^ sinfPTrvw f r w t *f t *pt t wwrCI' $sr (a) whether the L.I.C. authorities have already ordered for cuts from % H vmfl^Rr | i ^3 Written Answers PHALGUNA 22,1987 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

IB# V Vl«f % the bulk of managerial posts In the public enterprises should be delegated if, to the undertakings themselves. h ^ t «ffefW?r ^ ^ firo ra t o jh : However, Government retained the ^rtT/sww f r ^ f?t sn^r f prerogative of appointment of the Chairman, both part-time and full- w fw R !ff % time, and the Members of tbs % g y K i^ + fcrc; fl^^srar Board of Directors. Government also 4Nff «Ft«P?rTOr|i constituted a Public Enterprises Selec- tion Board (PESB) with the responsi- bility for selecting persons for appoint- Premature retirement of officials in ment as Chairmen.—both part-time and Nationalised Banks full-time and Managing Directors for all Public Enterprises, owned or 482. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: Will managed by the Central Government, the Minister of FINANCE be pleased other than those in the field of insur- to state the number of officials in the ance and banking In the case of all- nationalised banks who have been pre- full-time Executive/Functional Direc- maturely retired since the promulga- tors, the administrative Ministry will tion of Emergency? constitute Selection Committees, which will have a representative from the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN PESB. The powers to make appoint- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ments to all posts below Board level REVENUE & BANKING (SHRI PRA- have been delegated to the Boards of NAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): Accord- the Enterprises. However, in the ing to the information collected from selection of third level posts, i.e. the public sector banks, 9 officers have General Managers, the Secretary of so far been prematurely retired on the PESB would also be involved in grounds! of impairment of efficiency the selection procedures. For all posts since the promulgation of Emergency. below the Board level, the enterprises may, wherever necessary, obtain suit, •ecruUment of Zucittm la Public able names from the Data Bank main, Sector DateM dini tained by the Secretariat of PESB, in the Bureau of Public Enterprises, and 483. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: Will consider them along-with other appli- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased cants and internal candidates. to state: Thus, there is uniformity in recruit* (a) whether there is no uniformity ment procedure in respect of selection in the matter of recruitment of execu- of incumbents of Top Posts: at the tives in various public sector under- Board level and also the thirrd level takings; and posts viz. General Managers in the various Public Enterprises. With re- (b) if so, the steps proposed to be gard to the other posts below taken in the matter? the Board level, there is no such uniform recruitment procedure THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE nor is it proposed to introduce MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI rigid uniformity in such a matter SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) end (b). having regard to the powers delegated "The arrangements for recruitment of to the enterprises. However, with Personnel in Public Enterprises were regard to the selection for such posts reviewed by the Government some- also, the Boards of the enterprises are time back. In August, 1974 Govern- required to make the necessary screen- jrruutt announced a new managerial ing and selection arrangements, keep- policy for PufcHe teeter, in tt ing in mind 1fae bread guidelines that wa* accept**! ttutf the recruitment, may be prescribed bjr tine Public Sntar- training and jpttQ&otlons In nespectpf jjrtut i ^election Sowd. Written Answers MARCH 12, 197U Written Answer* 76

Candidates sponsored by B m u of In the case -of all other posts, th* Public Eaterprtoes power to make appointments vests with the Managements concerned, who, in- 484. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: Will variably consider the candidates spon- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased sored from the Data Bank before to state: finalising the selections—which is the requirements under the existing: in- (a) whether in certain cases the structions in this regard. management of public sector under- takings refuse to accept the candi- dates sponsored by the Bureau of m y Scales of P&T Stenographers Public Enterprises; and 485. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA* (b) if so, reaction of Government SHAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE thereto? be pleased to state: (a) whether Government had THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE accepted the recommendations made MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI by the Third Pay Commission (con- SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) and (b). tained in pages 48 to 58 of Chapter 10 Under the new managerial personnel Vol. 1). for the pay scales of the P&T policy for public sector, the Govern- Stenographers, which were proposed ment have constituted a Public Enter- as (i) Rs. 330—560 (ii) Rs. 425—700 prises Selection Board (PESB) with the and (iii) Rs. 550—750; responsibility for selecting persons for (b) whether the P&T Stenographers appointment as Chairmen—both part- have not so far been given these time and full-time—and Managing Directors for all Public Sector Enter- scales; and prises, owned or managed by the (c) if so, the date when the pay Central Government, other than those scales accepted by Government are in the held of insurance and banking. likely to be implemented? In the case of all full-time Executive/ Functional Directors, the administra- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tive Ministry will constitute Selection MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Committees, which will have a repre- SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) to (c). The sentative from the PESB. The powers Commissionrs recommendations regard- to make appointments to all posts ing the pay scales ot Stenographers in below Board level have been delegated offices outside the Secretariat (includ- to the Boards of the Enterprises. How- ing P&T Stenographers) were accept- ever, in the selection of third level e d by the Government. The Commis- posts, i.e. General Managers, the Secre- sion recommended the revised scales tary of the PESB would also be involv- of Rs. 330—560 and Rs. 425—700 for ed in the selection procedures. For the functional grades of Stenographers all posts below the Board level, the on the pre-revised scales of Rs 130 enterprises may, wherever necessary, 300 and Rs. 210—425 respectively and obtain suitable names from the Data a selection grade of Rs. 550—750 sub- Bank maintained by the Secretariat of ject to fulfilment of certain general PESB. in the Bureau of Public Enter- criteria. The Commission was also of prises, and consider them alongwith the view that no selection grade need other applicants and internal candi- be allowed for Stenographers above dates the level of Rs. 330—560 and had ac- cordingly recommended the abolition In the case of Top Posts, viz. those of some .posts at the level of Rs. 425— at the Board level, since the Govern- 700 in the P&T Department. While ment is the appointing authority, the the existing Stenographers in the P&T question of acceptance or otherwise, by who were in the pre-revised scales of the public sector undertaking* manage- ISO—-300 and Rs. ?T0-A2S. haw m ents of any candidate does not arise been allowed the revised scales of f f Written Answers PHALGUNA *2, 1897 (SAKAj Written Answers 78

Rs, 330—360 and as. 425—700 respec- (b) Orders have been issued, further tively as recommended by the Com. simplifying pension procedures with, mission, the questions of reviewing the effect from 1-3-76. These are expected strength ol the posts in the revised to result in a further reduction in the scale of R$. 425—700 and creation ol delays in the sanctioning of pensions. a selection grade of Rs. 550—750 are still under consideration These issues H.R.A. to Central Government are linked with the general questions as to whether the selection grade which Employees at Simla had earlier been allowed for Steno- 487. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- graphers in non-Secretariat offices SHAR: Will the Minister of FIN- should be retained above the level of ANCE be pleased to state: Rs. 330—560 or whether a selection grade should be allowed only above the (a) whether the house rent allow- level of Rs. 425—700, as also the ance recommended by the Illrd Pay criteria to be adopted for this purpose. Commission for cities, which are These issues which may involve some State capitals, was 15 per cent of the modification of the Pay Commission’s salary; recommendations are being examined, in consultation with the representatives (b) if so, whether the Central of the Staff Side in the National Coun- Government employees at Simla atre cil of the JCM. given house rent allowance only at the rate of 7 5 per cent of the salary; and Pending Pension Oases (c) the reasons for this anomaly? 486. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- SHAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) No, Sir. (a) the number of pension cases of The Third Pay Commission recom- Central Government employees pend- mended the continuance, for the pre- ing for disposal for over (i) five years sent, of the practice of payment o f (ii) four years (iii) three years (iv) house rent allowance with reference two years and (v) one year in the to the classification of cities on popu- various stages; and lation basis. Accordingly, house1 tent allowance at 15 per cent of pay Iff (b) whether any steps are proposed admissible in cities which are classi- to be taken by Government to ensure fied as *A\ ‘B-l* and ‘B-2’ on the basi» quick disposal of these cases? of their population.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) Simla qualifies for being classi- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI fied as a *C’ Class town on the basis SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) The pen- of its population and accordingly the sion cases of Central Government em- house rent allowance admissible 1* ployees are processed by various 7-1 '2 per cent of pay. authorities Jn different Departments (c) Docs not arise. and accordingly the information asked for is not available centrally. Accord- ing to the information collected in Export of Jute Goods November 1974 from the Accountant 488. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- General, Central Revenues, who deals JIIUNWALA: Will the Minister of with-a large concentration of Central COMMERCE ,»ieased to state: Government employees, however, there were only two cases pending in that (a) whether recent concessions office pertaining to the year 1073 and given for export of iute goods have 186 cases pertaining to the year 1974. been welcomed by the industry; 79 W ritten Aim oers MAACH 12, Written A juuw

(b) whether there Rftve been signs vjrft, i»7« % *rr6- w fgf o f increased export of Jute goods and booking of orders since the conces- j^wnft $<* m*r *ft§r Hr? $ sions were given; and f ^ r «pftw^V«rtV m u «rf?r (c) if so, the salient features there- i f fci Of? (w ) t o ra*sr % f .. ■». 2k. ■ . -. V v TV. «v * THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE T9F^PT W it H WWT H TO *FT "MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH)* ##!■ *Pt srf^Fr *fonr v ^ r w srfar (a) The recent abolition of export § f I I *TS «Tf5T fa?|sft £$ t W ^ duty on jute ■Nam, twine webbing and snrft sacking has been welcomed by the in- dustry. (* ) r-r^r< ^ i m % ww4»rfl (b) and (c) Export duty was abol- ished only on 12th February 1976 and ^rft Tfi->cT % fNtT frF?rf^f%Rr 9’TPT therefore it is too early to assess the ftwr | — impact thereof

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**P« t •* Sugar and Basmati Rice THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SURENDRA PAL 491. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS SINGH), (a) With a view to popularis- MUNSI: Will the Minister of COM- ing the public sector hotels in the vari- MERCE be pleased to state: ous countries, the India Tourism (a) total percentage of sugar and Development Corporation (ITDC) ad- \ ertis.es m foreign travel trade journals Basmati rice exported as compared to their actual production during the and other news media. Audio-visual last year; presentations on ITDC services are made among ioreign travel agents (b) whether it is possible to export \ isitmg India and also those located atleast 50 per cent Basmati nee and abroad in certain centres. The Gov- 25 per cent sugar out of their actual emment of India Tounst Offices abroad .production; and and Air-India Offices are regularly sup- plied with publicity material pertaining (c) countries who are the promi- to ITDC hotels for dissemination nent buyers of Basmati rice and amongst potential travellers and travel .sugar? agents. Arrangement also exist for direct reservation service through Ste- THE DEPUTY MINISTER Ift THE lgenberger Reservation Service, Utell MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI International and John Miller, Austra- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH), lasia. (a) During 1974-75, 22.3 per cent of the production of sugar was exported. (b) The special facilities provided As regards basmati nee, data on area to tourists in public sector hotels in- •and production are not available. It clude (i) speciality restaurants provid- is, however, estimated that about 30 ing Moughlai. Kashmiri, Rajasthani, per cent of the production of basmati French, Chinese and Continental cui- rice was exported in 1974-75. sine (ii) Art Ga&mes, (iii) Bowling Alley, Swimming Pools, Health Clubs, (b) While efforts would continue to (iv) Yoga, (v) Ayurvedic oil bath and be made to export as much sugar and massage, (vi) Shopping Centres, (vtt) basmati rice as possible, actual exports Sight-seeing and excursion services, would depend on various factors such etc. as production, internal consumption, Internal and international prices, de- mand in foreign markets, etc. Appointment «f s.C. and S.T. persons In the Board of Directors of Nationa- (c) The prominent buyers of basmati lised Banks rice are Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrein, Dubai and Oman, and those 493. SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH: -of Sugar axe Iran, USA, Egypt and Will the Minister of FINANCE be Sudan. pleased to state:

Public Sector S e ttfi (a) whether Government have con- sidered the question of appointing 0 2 . SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH: some persons from Scheduled Castes Will the Minister of TOURISM AND and Scheduled Tribes as Directors in CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state; the Board of Directors of all the nationalised banks, State Bank of (a) what steps are being taken t o popularise the public sector hotels India and Reserve Bank of India; and * * w >i the various countries; and (b) if so, the number of such Direc- 0 # jpedal facilities being provided tors and when are ttngr likely to be to tourists to p m fc ffBetor hotels* appointed? 83 W ritten Answers MARCH 12, 1m Written Answers

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ( v ) wtft *r fW tor w REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI tftr far tit w Tffsr PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) (a) f f «?, «rk and (b) At present, there are nineteen persons belonging to Scheduled Castes ( 5nr) w r f n ^%frfV THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI («r) *r srrrrereH art' m w VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) i mz w, vrvr + i)r m The Indo-Bntish Economic Committee has been set up to cons der and lecom- s m V* ?WT Tf^TfrTqT sfw? niend wavs and means of promoting ?# t economic/industrial co operation bet ween the two countries The Committee ( Jsr) z * ottt r sft^r^r fo=r% could discuss bilateral ot other issues of interest including the securing of *rw ^ vtwtt tot t ?t«tt U K 's support for furthering the pro rp- fr^-f^TT ^TPT-fr T JT^fT y R qijiV cess of globalising the initiatives taken by the EEC in respect of certain de- veloping countries under the (*T) «fUT TsR sffaT % *TCTR srrf? Rome Convention r r ®TT m * TO, ^PT f 1® ^ f t £ fTrorfasm ** *tm *r«sw % *rV^ «rf« ?T ~3* *9fr % *TT*T TOT t 7

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% f M w w ff t 20 fasfer- *w?wrfaifr*tft T*r«rM *) ^r farpr 502. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will tke Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to %*r % w rm ffrzrr arr^TT *ftr state: nffcff,?r>wr «flgts*Tf *r«£vrfSr*rf«r (a) the reasons for the big spun *Fmr m ^N - wtttvt fft w r t ? r * r r ^ in Imports in the financial year uptt * w 5 P f^ t it srf^ rr; 31st December, 1975; (b) the major items imoprteA,' (

(c) The trade gap at the close of Utilization of capacity In Public Aprllr-December 1979 amounted to UnievtaktaKi Rs. I l l 3,8 crores (provisional). On these indications, the gap at the close 504. SHRI C K. CHANDRAPPAN:

503 S1IRI RAJDEO SINGH Will the (b) what was the percentage of the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL same last year, AVIATION be pleased to state , (c) what ate the latest available (a) whether we are at the end of the beginning m the field of cloud figures relating to profit and loss seeding according to the scientists position of each of these undertak- assembled in Delhi m a two day ings, and seminar under the auspices of the (d) what was the relative position Indian Meteoi ological Society, of their profit or lo&s during the last (b) if so, wliethe* it was stressed three years? that national policy on weather management '•hould be foimulated so THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE that the cloud ceding done m one MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI State does not lead to drought condi- SUSHILA ROHATGI) Figures tions m any adjoining State and of percentage of capacity utilisation in (c) whethei the erratic behaviour the case oi 70 Central public sector manutat luring Units for which the of clouds is a constant source at worrv to the weatherman agricul- information is at ailable in the Bureau foi the period Jul>—Decern’ or, 1975 turists and Goa eminent alike in taking up the ‘ Cold cloud eeding” are pxe&ented n Statement I laid on and “warm cloud seeding” on the the Table of the Touse | Placed in assumption t^at cloud stimulation Library See No LT-10426/76] was possible by extei nil factors’ (1 ) Figuies of percentages of capa- city utilization in the various Central THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND Public Sector m inufacturing Units CIVIL AVIATION (SIIRI RAJ BAHA- during 1074-7*5 ate given in Statement DUR) (a) and (b) The consensus of II laid on the Table of the House. the scientists who participated in the [Placed Library See No LT- Seminar was that cloud seeding for 10426/76] increasing rainfall was still m an experimental stage Carefully design- (c) The final figures of profit/loss of ed experiments have to be continued the enterprises for the jear 1975-76 and statistically evaluated to arrive at will become available only after the conclusive results A national policy accounts for the year are closed on can be formulated on ly after sufficient- 31-3-1976. However, a statement show- ly conclusive results have been ob- ing the estimated figures of net pre- tained from the experiments tax profit/loss of major enterprises fo r the first three quarters of 1975-76, '(C) No Sir, suitability of clouds for which are available, are given In "cotyl cloud seeding* or ‘warm cloud Statement III laid on the Table of the ■eeding’ can be decided from atmos- House. [Placed in Library. S ee N a pheric and Cloud measurements. LT-10426/76]. ■93 Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written Answers 9 4

(d) Figures of net pre-tax profit/ Reappearance of smuggled goods in loss of the enterprises for the years shops in Bombay 1972-73, 1973-74 and 1974-75. are given in Statement IV laid on the Table of 506. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: the House. [Placed in Library. See Will the Minister of FINANCE be No. LT-10426/76], pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware Meeting of Indo-U.S. Business Council of the reappearance of smuggled in New Delhi goods in various shops in Bombay; and 505. SHRI K. M. “MADHUKAR”: (b) if so, the facts thereof and SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: action taken to check this? SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT Will the Minister of FINANCE be OF REVENUE AND BANKING pleased to state: (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- (a) whether a meeting of the Indo- JEE): (a) and (b)- As a result of U.S. Business Council was recently the crack-down on smugglers, the held in New Delhi and if so, the facts smuggled goods have become scarce thereof; and open display of such goods has been effectively curbed in Bombay. (b) whether the leader of the There may be some clandestine sale American drfegation wanted India to of these commodities but their prices clarify her stand on foreign invest- are now much higher. Some Press ments in the country; and reports had come to notice some time ago that smuggled goods had (c) if so, the facts thereof and reappeared in Bombay. Greater Government’s reaction thereto? efforts have been made to collect intelligence not only regarding the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE clandestine transactions but also re. (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM); (a) Yes, garding the storage of contraband. In Sir. The first meeting of the Indo-U.S. addition, a number of surprise raids Jiont Business Council was held in have been carried out at various shops New Delhi from February 2 to 4, 1976. and on hawkers in the marketing areas The meeting provided a forum to the and the persons concerned with trans- two sides to exchange information and port. storage or sale are severely dealt explore areas of mutually advanta- with. geous co-operation in the areas of trade and investment. Norms for selection/promotion of officers in Insurance Companies (b) Yes, Sir. The leader of the 507. SHRI P.M. MEHTA: Will the U.S. delegation expressed his view that Minister of FINANCE be pleased to a statement by the Prime Minister of state: the India welcoming foreign invest- ment would help in creating the right (a) whether General Insurance climate abroad about investment in Corporation has formulated guidelines India. and laid down norms for the selection/ promotion of officers belonging to (c) Government’s policies in the various insurance companies formed matter of foreign investment are quite into four groups after nationalisation; weU-known in India and abroad. and However, the view expressed in the meeting of the Joint Business Council (b) whether these guidelines are have been noted, ~p- being adhered to strictly? fn H (K Answers MARCH 11, 1879 Written Answers &

THE MW * MINISTBR Of THE Recommendation* ugardiflg o ff* MINISTRY ftNANCtt (SHRIMAT1 gorisation oI efllcecs vresm treated as SUSHILA EOHATGI): (a) and (b). provisional pending review by Ike Re- Some broad Indicative norma and viewing Committees, appointed byr the- guidelines were evolved by the G.I.C. 6 .I.C. suo moto or on receipt o f after discussion with its subsdianes. representations from affected officers. These have been followed by the Com- Certain changes m these lists recom- mittees entrusted with the work of mended by the Reviewing Committees categorisation and promotions. were approved by the G.I.C. Board.

Take-wer ef Jote MQU* Recommendation* made by Mathranl Committee 509. SHRI K. M. “MADHUKAR Will the Minister of COMMERCE be 508. SHRI P. M. MEHTA* Will pleased to state the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) whether the jute growers and to state: the trade unions have demanded the (a) whether all the recommenda- take-over of the jute *nEU* in the tions of the General Insurance Inte- country; and gration Committee (Mathrani Com- (b) Government's reaction thereto? mittee) have since been accepted by the General Insurance Corporation; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (b) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) Take-over of jute mills in the country has been advocated by certain THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE trade unions and others. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RQHATGI) (a) and (b). (b) Government does not consider Of the seven reports submitted b'v the i^ necessary to nationalise the jute General Insurance Services Integration industry for the present Committee, three pertained to pay scales and other terms and conditions of service, another three pertained to Trade Gap seniority list of different levels of officers, while the remaining one report 510 SHRI K M “MADHUKAR” : pertained to criteria ror absorption Will the Minister of COMMERCE be and guidelines for semoritv pleased to stale (a) whether oui foreign trade defi- The Central Government has already cit has touched a record figure during notified two schemes under section the current financial year; lG(l)(g) of the General Insuiance Business (Nationalisation) Act 1972, (b) whether there is an impressive regarding* pay scales r.nd terms and gain from our exports during the conditions of service oi the officers and same period; and of supervisory, clerical and subordi- (c) if so, the facts thereof? nate staff of G.I.C. While framing these schemes the recommendations of THJ5 DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Committee were kept in view but MINISTRY OF COMMmra (SHRI after negotiations with the staff, it VISHWANATH PRATAP fHNGH). became necessary to modify the Com- (a) to (c) - 'The latest foreign trade mittee’s recommendations on certain 10 matters. The scheme regarding the data rdhftes *to the months April, 1875—Janaury, ItW . fetfrtng H eld Staff is still under consideration. 97 Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) W ritten Answers 98

period the trade deficit amounted to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Be. 1236 crores as against Ra. 982 MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI crores during the corresponding period SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) Orders at last year Exports during this period have been issued on 28-2-76 for simple- at Ha 302S crores were larger by 15 6 ft cation of procedure with a view to per cent than Rs 2616 crores of ex- eliminating delays in the payment of ports in the same period of last year superannuation pension and death* cum-retirement gratuity and for drawal and disbursement of pay and allowances of gazetted Government Purchase of foods from India by servants by Heads of offices USA (b) A statement is laid on the Table 511 SHRI K M “MADHUKAR” of the House Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Statement pleased to state Salient features of revised procedures for (a) whether the purchase of $ 100 million worth of goods and services (A) determining and payment of from India by the Government of pensions U S A envisaged under the 1974 Indo- US agreement on basis of rupee (B) drawal and disbursement of funds has not materialised and salanes and allowances of the Gazet- ted Go\eminent servants (b) if so the reasons therefor7 (A) Pension Procedme THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (1) Pension will be calculated on MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI the average emoluments of 10 com- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) plete months instead of 36 months (a) and (b ) The U S Government (2) The payment of superannuation under the Indo-U S Rupee Agreement pensions will commence in all cases on 1974 is expected to purchase goods and the first of the month m which they services totalling up to $100 million are due In order to ensure this, a over a period of 5 years Their pur strict time-table for the work at chaser till now have not been signi various stages has been laid down for ficant and the matter is being pursued the H eads of Offices and those res with U S A authorities separately ponsible for issumg pension payment orders and firm out-oft dates have Modifications in the existing procedure of pension and other emoluments of been pi escribed foi each stage such that when a cut-off date is reached the Central Government Employees work will then necessarily proceed to 512 SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE the next stage SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARY (3) In the absence of specific indi YA cation to the contrary interruption in service between the spells of Will the Minister of FINANCE be service rendered under the Central pleased to state Government will be treated as con- doned and pre interruption service (a) whether Government are hav- counted for pension Similarly periods ing any proposal to modify the e x it- of extnoidmary leave not covered by ing procedures for the payment of specific entries treating them as non- pension and other emoluments to the quahf’v ing will also count for pension Central Government employees, and (4) The requirement of an adminis (lb) if so, the salient features there- tralive sanction to pension is dispensed of’ with 2753 LS—5 99 W ritten Answer* ^ A B C H 12, tfl76 W ritten Answer# 100

(5) X< for any reasons it is sot poor (b) amount sanctioned by Central sible to issue the Pension Payment Government? Order before one month of the retire* ment of the Government servant, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE provisional pension and death-cum- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI retirement gratuity will be (sanctioned VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): and disbursed by the Head of Office. (a) and (b). The outlays proposed by The provisional pension will become the Gvoovemment of Kerala for deve- final after a period of six months. lopment of handloom industry and approved by the Central Government (6) In the matter of determining the for 1975-76 (Current year) and 1976-77 dues outstanding from the Government are indicated below:— '""rant (other than those pertaining to Government accommodation), the Outlay (Rs. lakhs) probe of past records will be confined to a period of two years before retire- Proposed Approved ment, at the stage of preparation of pension papers. 1975-76 44*67 42-00 (B) Drawal and disbursement of 1976-77 293 18 6000 salaries and allowances of Gazetted Government Sert'ants. The allocation of funds for the fin- (1) With effect from 1st April, 1976, ancial year 1975-76 is only for State the determination of entitlements of Plan schemes. The amount of Rs, 2.93 Gazetted Government Servants will be crores proposed by the Kerala Govern- done by the Heads of Departments/ ment for 1976-77 is for the continua- Offices in which they are working and tion State Plan schemes and also for not by the Accountants General/Pay the Central schemes under 20-Point and Accounts Offices Economic Programme. Out of the amount of Rs. 60 Jakhs approved by (2) The salary of Gazetted Govern- ment servants will, as in the case of the Government, Rs. 46 lakhs is for continuing State Plan schemes and non-gnzelted staff, be drawn on the establishment bills by the Drawing and Rs. 14 lakhs is a lumpsum provision Disbursing Officers concerned. for State’s matching contribution for central schemes. In addition to the (3) The service records including above, an intensive development pm- leave accounts of the Gazetted Officers ject with an outlay of Rs 1.85 crores will be transferred by the Accountants over a five year period and an export General/Pav and Accounts Officers to production project with an outlay of the departmental authorities, the Rs. 40 lakhs over a period of five arrangement in this regard synchro- years, have been already approved in nising with the general scheme of principle for the State. separation of accounts from the audit for each Ministry. National Policy on Sales Tax

514. SHRI VASANT SATHE* Development of Handloom Industry in Kerala DR. LAXMINARAIN PAN- DEYA: 513. SHRI A. K. GOPOLAN: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased Will the Minister of FINANCE be to state: pleased to state: (a) amount asked for during the (a) whether in the absence of natio- current year by Kerala Government nal policy on sales tax, one and the tor the development of Handloom same commodity is being taxed vary- Industry; and ingly even in neighbouring States and 101 Written Answer* PHALGUNA 22, 1807 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 consequently there is diversion of average monthly expenditure on ac- trade, inter-state smuggling and black count of overtime allowance paid to marketing; the Secretariat staff in the various (b) whether Government are consi- Ministries/Departments is about dering to evolve a national policy on Rs, 3.46 lakhs, after the recent instruc- sales tax; and tions on curbing oveitime allowance. This compares with an average month- (c) if so, action proposed to be taken ly expenditure of about Rs. 8.73 lakhs m this regard? before the issue of these instructions.

THE MINISTER OF STArE lN- (b)’ It is difficult to stop overtime CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF allowance altogether, because of admi- REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI nistrative compulsions. However, the PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): expenditure on this account has been (a) to (c). As the levy of tax on sales substantially brought down and efforts or purchases of goods is a State sub- are being made to bring it down fur-* ject of taxation, rates of sales tax or ther. commodities do differ from Stale to State. While uniformity m the rates of sales tax is desirable, as any wide Mills under National Textile differential in rates leads to diversion Corporation of trade and avoidance of tax, the 516. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will State Governments have also to take the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased into account the peculiar geographical and economic conditions, trade pattern to state: and other relevant factors obtaining (a) whether the mills under the within their respective territories be- management of the National Textile fore deciding the rates of tax on parti- Corporation have recently achieve suc- cular commodities. Efforts are made cess in reducing losses due to improv- through discussions in the forum of ed off-take of accumulated stocks: Regional Councils to achieve us much uniformity in re/jar-l to levy of spies (b) if so, the r< a sons lor poor off- tax by States, as possible. take previously; (c) whether them wece other contri- Overtime Allowance in Departments of butory causes for the losses; and Government of India (d) if so, the bioad outlines thereof? 515. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH: Will the Minister of FINANCE hr pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) the latest position an

Cfoms* of Cooperative Spinaing MUb (b) Does not arise. 517. SHRI D, D. DESAI: Will the (c) The wholesale price index (1961- Mi»f«ter of COMMERCE be pleased to 62=100) recorded an increase of 1.7 state; per cent in 1975 as compared to as increase of 27.0 per cent in 1974. The C») whether several co-operative price level, however, depends on a spinning mills are facing closure; number of factors like overall avail- (b) if so, the reasons therefore; and ability of goods and speculative ten- dencies apart from the increase in (c) steps Government have taken to money supply. . avert the closure?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Export of Electrical Goods to West MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Asia VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): 519. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the (a) to (c). Some co-operative spinning Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to mills are experiencing difficulties on state; account of uneconomic working. Na- tional Co-operative Development Cor- (a) whether India has made a break- poration is organising arrangements through in the export of electrical for rendering financial assistance to goods to West Asia; and these mills *n coordination with the (b) if so, the facts thereof? State Governments. Three coopera- tive spinning mills are actually closed Bo at the end of February 1976, two on THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE account of financial difficulties and the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 3rd due to labour management trouble. VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): It is now understood that the State (a) Yes, Sir. Governments are taking action to re- (b) Exports of electrical goods to open these mills. West Asian Countries have increased from Rs. 8.46 crores in 1.073-74 to Rs. 18.28 crores in 1974-75. Impact of Money Supply on Price Level Major items of export are: Insulated 518. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the Cables and Wires, electric fans and •Minister of FINANCE be pleased to parts, aluminium conductors, electric state: control and switch gears fluorescent tubes and fixtures, electrical accesso- (a) whether money supply with the ries, public in 1975 recorded a larger expan- sion as compared to the previous year; Major West Asian countries taking Indian electrical goods are: Kuwait, (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia. UAR (c) its impact on the price level? Oman and Qatar.

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Cash Assistance for Exports (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM); (a) The increase in money supply with the pub- 520. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the lic of Rs. 1011 crores (9-0 per cent) Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to between the last Friday of December state: 1974 and last Friday of December, (a) whether Government propose to 1975 was smaller than the increase of expand the scheme of cash assistance Rs. 1042 crores <'10.2 per cent) in the for exports; and corresponding period cf the previous year. (b) If so, the main features thereof? jo s Written Answers PHALGUNA 22,1887 ISAKA) Written Answers 106

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (*r) 1975 ¥ f w ftr MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): *r f3RT *rs % fa*rfcT OTffsRT wfc, (a> and (b). Government propose to «fy f«r*r t o t * m m , re-structure the scheme for cash com- sflr aftf ?r 5 ^ ^ % sr*T3 wrtrt^ % i pensatory support primarily as a mea- sure of export promotion. It is pro* *r*fsr % ^Vttt fa*rfer vV *nr^ ^ posed to determine the levels of cash *n? ^nr 1 1 ^ % snr* ^rnmr^ compensatory support for different ex- ftrsr *ttst w ®r, jsrrf s r w t sre ^arrf 1 1 fcff Common Market of Tea Producing Countries of Asia 521* * rf«r«r ^ 522. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased f a * to state-

{*p) w fV war ^ff % (a) the extent to which the efforts '*TTT?T % SETT^ made have been successiul in respect of forming Asia Cooperation of tea f t t ; producing countries of Asia on the lines of common market to avoid com- (*sr) *rfir irt, *ft 5*r Tft w petition among *h»se countries, and gra’ ^rr $ ; tftr (b) further steps taken of proposed (*r) W f *fV Pp t *tt fo 'v» taken in th'j, legard? f^rfrr s r f t r ^ ft srfsrw^r srprra*r?r? If? THE DEPUTY M1NISTFR IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): *f w rll («ft (a) No efToil ha^ been made so far fr o n t* ) (v ) ^ ^ 1 f<>r forming a common market of Tea Producing Countries of Asia ( * ) 1974-75 3 W?* ^Tfff (h) Does not ^riso FqT^ r^srfcr 423 02 Uo i % fpri^ep 1973-74^ 1 74 13T>Tt® Crisis in Handloom Industry in Kerala mprjpfqufcT^* I fffcP? 1973-74 523 SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: 143 % srten srfHw # Wdl the Minister of COMMERCE fce f f 1 s w ? pleased to stale: 197 5 -7 6 ^ ff 3T> «TTT?T % (a) whether the Handloom Industry 230 45 ^rq % fa*rfar f r in Kerala had faced a crisis last year 1 9 7 4 -7 5 # *rafar t due to the cri$is m the export market 171.11 ^FCT^ ^T(* ^ fsfirffT §*! lor the crepe materials produced by the handlooms; 8r f ^ r 34 STffTWrT % 5>ft t i (b) if so, the facts thereof; 107' '■ Written Answerg M A R C H 1 2 JOT*. v u w -n 12, im Written Answers m

(c) steps taken to overcome this crisis; and TOE MINISTER OF STATE IN- S E T S ° * THE DEPARTMENT OF (d) whether ’Government propose to *ND BANKING (SHRI impose a ban on the production of PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): crepe by mills to protect Handloom (a) Total value 0f various goods seiz- Industry? CU8t0mS Act’ 1MB, during the last three years is furnished below- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Approximate value of VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): Year seizure under Customs (a) and (b). A sharp increase in de- Act, 1962 mand for handloom crepe cloth lor (Rs. in lakhs) garment production for export, led to a situation in which powerlooms also *973-74 4145 took to the production of crepe cloth. *974-75 5872 This had created difficulties for the i975-7<5(upto Jan. handloom sector in Kerala. 1976) 349i (Provisional)

1973-74 7'5 T2 2

Seizure of Smuggled Goods 1974-75 9 3 33-7 524. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: 1975-76 154 5-98 Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) As on 28th February, 1976 (as per list attached) 23 smugglers were (a) what is the total value of various under detention on the orders issued kinds of articles and cash seized from by Central Government under the pro- the smugglers in the years 1973-74, visions of Conservation of Foreign Ex- 1-75 and 1975-70 till now; change and Prevention of Smuggling Activities Act, 1974 (COFEPOSA). (b) names of the smugglers who are One smuggler Shri Rawatmal Golyan under custody, whose properties have against whom Central Government had been attached and who are absconding; issued orders of detention is still abs- and conding. No property belonging to Shri Rawatmal Golyan has been at- (c) whether Government have any tached. In addition to fhe above as on proposal to put these smugglers on 28th February, 1976, 1867 orders of trial? detention had been issued against 109 W ritten Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKAWritten Answers ilo smugglers and their associates by 21. Sham Behari various State Governments and Gov- 22. Dali Chand ernments of Union Territories. Of these 272 persons have not yet been 23. Srikishan detained or are absconding. Informa- tion regarding names and other details Arrears of Income-tax of smugglers ordered to be detained by State Governments would be very large. The time and labour involved 525. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: in collecting this information for each SHRI JAGADISH BHATTA- individual case may not be commensu- CHARYYA: rate with the results that may be SHRI BIREN DUTTA. achieved. However, if the Hon'ble Member wishes to have specific infor- Will the Minister of FINANCE be mation about any particular personas) pleased to state: the same will be collected and furnish- (a) the latest figures of arrears of ed. income-tax and what were the figures thereof at the end of each of the last (c) Under COFEPCSA Act, 1974 three financial years; there is no provision for trial In the Court of Law. Where, however, there (b) what are the amounts of income- is adequate evidence for launching tax written off in the previous financial prosecution under Customs Act, 1902, year; and appropriate action thereunder i<5 taken. (c) what are the additional steps LIST OF SMUGGLERS UNDER taken by 'Government to realise ar- DETENTION rears? S/Shri THE MINISTER OF STATF IN 1. Haji Mastan Mirza CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF 2. Sukar Narun Bakhia REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): 3. Lalloo Jogi (a) The figures of arrears of tax are 4. Bhana Khilpa Patel compiled at the end of each quarter. 5. Ratilai Devnbhai Navik The latest figures of arrears of Income- 6. K. S. Abdulla tax (including’ Corporation Tax) are available as on Dl-12-1975. The 7. Kantilal Nanchand Shah amountq of gross demand and net ar- 8. Nathalal Rupsi Shah rears of income-tax (inrludmg Corpo- 9. Rajabally H'rji Meghani ration Tax) outstanding as on that date 10. Srvind Liladhar Dholakia and ai the end of each of the financial years 1972-73. onQ 3974-76 11. Lalit Liladhar Dholakia were as under:— 12. Vardaraj Munuswam* Mudaliar (Tn crores o f rupees) 13. Usuf Abdulla Patel 14. S. M. A. Siddique As on G 088 15. V. M. G. Mariappa Vandayar c’ mtind Net arrears 16. Ramlal Narang 90-02 17. Ghamandiram K. Gowar.i - 483*to Rt^*6o 471 *3 18. Syed Ishtiaq Ahmed 3l-3-i9'74 3I-3-I97S o->5'96 53T 4* 19. Nand Kishore Verma 3M 2-I975 946*50 654*5* 20, Daya Shankar Kapoor X iz Written Answer* MARCH 12, 3074 W ritten Answers

(b) The total amount at income-tax control, goods foe supply against (including Corporation Tax) written Defence or other Government orders, off during the financial year 1974-75 etc. was Rs. 4-81 crores. (2) State Governments have been (c) Apart from write-off of irreco- directed to ensure that the regular out- verable demand, such of the steps pro- flow of manufactured commodities is vided m the income-tax Act, 1961 as transmitted expediously through the are appropriate to the circumstances distribution pipe-lines, so that the of each case are taken for effecting availability at the consumers’ end recovery of outstanding demand. continues to be maintained;

Steps to Check Pre-Budget Hoarding (3) The Packaged Commodities (Re- gulation) Order, 1975, which provides 526. SHRI N. K. SANGHI- Will the for mandatory marking of rates, name Minister of FINANCE be pleased to of the manufacturer and price, is state: being strictly enforced to ensure inter alia the elimination of pre-budget (a) whether Government have taken hoarding, some measures to check pre-budget hoarding in the country; (4) State Governments have been requested to ensure that the orders (b) if so, thg particulars thereof relating to display of prices and stocks continue to be implemented vigorously (c) to what extent these measures as an essential measure of consumer have been found to be adequate to protection; and meet their objectives7 (5) State Governments have teen THE MINISTLR OF STATE IN directed to make arrangements at field CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF level to provide for the following — REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI (i) Wherever there is a complaint PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) from the consumer that there (a) Yes, Sir i<5 shortage or that no stock is ^ (b) The main measures taken by available at the retail points Government to check pre budget the field authorities will make hoarding in the country are indicated arrangements immediately to below ensure supplies from the whole-saler or semi-whole- <1) Under Rule 224(3) of the Cent- saler; and ral Excise Rules, 1944, the Central (ii) where the shoitage cannot be Government have lestticte^ during the made %a->i by this arrange- 4 weeks ending on the 15th March. ment, an Immediate telepho- 1976 clearances of excisable goods for nic/telegraphic intimation will home consumption During this penod. be sent to the Department of the perm ssible weekly clearance ot Civil Supplies and Co-opera- e\cwible goods for home consumption tion which will m»ke arranere from a factory or a warehouse is ments through the manufac- limited to 120 per cent of the quantity turers for rushing *tocks to or the value as the case mav be of the lb* affected area weekly average cf clearances of the last one year. Provision has. how- (c) The various measures can be ever. been made for rel^xin? the res- said to have been adequate, as pre- trictions in respect of essential goods, Budget hoarding this year does not tfoods under statutory distribution appear to be noticeable. I I j W ritten Answers PHALGUNA 22,1687 (SAKA) Written Answers 114

Brodnctton auu Heauiremeats of Infracted Liquor stock* with Claim in Controlled Cloth Delhi

527. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY: 528. SHRI HARI SINGH; Will the Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Minister of FINANCE be pleased to pleased to state the present ratio of state: production of the controlled cloth to the requirements thereof? (a) whether the anti-smuggling branch of the Customs Department THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sealed the stocks of imported liquor MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI with all clubs in Delhi on the 2Srd VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): January, 1976; and Production of controlled cloth is meant to meet, by and large, the cloth (b) if so, the names of those clubs requirements of weaker sections of the and what action Government have population. At the same time their taken against them? requirements are not confined only to controlled varieties as consumption THE MINISTER OF STATE IN pattern covers art silk fabrics, blend- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT ed fabrics and hosiery goods. The OP REVENUE AND BANKING current levels of production of control- (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- led cloth appear adequate to meet the JEE): (a) and (b). On 23rd January, requirements of weaker section of the 1976 the Anti-Smuggling Unit of the population for "ontrollpd varieties of Delhi Collectorate visited Press Club cloth. of India and Delhi Plying Club, New Delhi, and sealed their stock of im- ported liquor. Other clubs in Delhi S.T.C’s Contract with Saudi Arabia which had been visited on other dates in January, 3976 were dealt with simi- 528. SHRI HARI SINGH: Will the larly. The clubs had not filed decla- Minister of COMMERCE be nleased to rations with the Department in respect state* of the imported liquor and had not maintained prescribed records as re- (a) whether a contract has been quired under Section 11-C and ll-E signed recently bv the Slate Trading respectively, of the Customs Act, 1962 Corporation of India with Sfudi Arabia rend ring the liquor liable to confisca- for the supply of sheep; find tion and the clubs to penalties under the Customs Act The liquior was con- (b) if so, through which agency and fiscated and fines in lieu of confisca- from where these sheen will be pur- tion were imposed, as provided by the chased for exnort to Saudi Arabia’ Act

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) ■ Payment of Dearness Allowance to fa) Yes, Sir Pensioners (b) Purchases for export will be 53ft. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: made by Associate Suppliers of S.T.C. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Major part of the purchases will be made from Rajasthan through the good Will the Minister of FINANCE be Wool, Government of Rajasthan. The pleased to state: offices of the Directorate of Sheen and remaining purchases will be effected (a) whether some more instal- bv the Associate Suppliers from ments of dearness allowance have Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat. been sanctioned to the pensioners; Written Answers MARCH 12, 1976 Written Anst&et* I i 6

(b) if not, the reasons for this ab- giving earnest attention how best to normal delay; and organise the requirements for the re- opening of the mills at the earliest (c) when a final decision is likely to be taken in this regard7 Willingness of Eurepean tanner* and leather manufacturer* to collaborate THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI with India SUSHILA ROHATGI); (a) to (c) 532 SHRI S M BANERJEE Three instalments of relief have al- ready been sanctioned to pensioners SHRI M KALYANASUN- DARAM on account of increase in cost of liv- ing The question of giving them fur- Will the Minister of COMMERCE ther relief is under the consideration be pleased to state of Government (a) whether the tanners and lea- ther manufacturers from European countries are willing to collaborate with India for a new leather export Decision to take over Laxmi Rattan programme, and Cotton Mills and Atherton West Mills in Kanpur tb) if b o , the facts thereof?

531 SHRI S M BANERJEE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI MOHAMMAD ISMAIL MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) and (b) The EEC Delegations Will the Minister of COMMERCE which visited India recently explored be pleased to state such possibilities of collaboration with Indian Leather interests The dele- (a) what further action has been gates on their return would present taken to take over Laxmi Rattan their assessment report to their con- Cotton Mills and Atherton West federations Developments will be Mills in Kanpur known only thereaftei (b) whether a final decision ha*! been taken, and Export levy on Jute Goods (c) if not, the reason^ for the de- 533 SHRI S M BANERJEE Will lay? the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether Government have de- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) cided to abolish export lew on Jute (a) to (c) Central Government have goods, detailed consultations with the State (b) if so, the facts thereof and Government and the Bankers of Laxmi Rattan Cotton Mills and Atherton (cl how far would this help the West Cotton Mills at Kanpur with 3Ute industry? a view to organising arrangements for their reopening Considerable amount of finances and effective arrangements THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE lor administrative and managerial re- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI quirements are needed, finalisatlon of VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH)- which is taklag time. Government is (a) and (b). Government have abo- 117 Written Answers PH ALGUNA 22, * 397 ( .SM K A > Written Answers n g

lished export duty oq the following items of jute products:

Rs. per tonne

Item Date From To

Carpet Backing .... 3-5-75 200 Nil (Pnmary and Secondary)

Hessian .... 5-6-75 600 Nd

12-2-76 150 Nil

Jute Yarn .... Do. 150 Nil

Jute Twine .... Do. 150 Nil

Jute Webbing .... Do. 200 Nil

Export duty at the rate of Rs. 200 Economic Relational between incite Per tonne on Jute Canvas and Tarpau- and West Germany lin and at the rate of Rs. 150 per tonne 535. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; Will on Twist and rope is however being the Minister of FINANCE be pleased levied. to state;

(c) The abolition of export duty is (a) whether during his stay in India, the West German Economic expected to make our jute goods com- petitive in markets abroad. Corporation Minister said that his country’s attitude was towards strengthening economic relations with India; Tourist Traffic (b) if so, the facts thereof; and (c) whether further aid is expected 534. SHRI P. GANGADEB; Will from that country on IDA terms? the Minister of TOURISM AND CI- VIL AVIATION be pleased to state THE MINISTER OF FINANCE whethei there had been any increase {SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) and in the four 1st traffic in 1975 as com- (b). During the recent visit to India pared to previous year? of H.E. Mr. Egon Bahr, Minister for Economic Cooperation, Federal Re- public of Germany in January, 1976, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN various modalities of strengthening THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND economic cooperation between the CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SUREN- two countries were discussed and it DRA PAL SINGH): Yes, Sir. Tour- was agreed that: ist arrivals in 1975 aggregated 465,275 which showed an increase of 42,114 (i) amongst the various sectors of tourists or 10 per cent over the tour- Indian economy, irrigation, ist arrivals in 1974. feneration and transmisnoQ 119 Written Answers MABCH 12, m * Written Answtrs

of power and production of (b) if so. the salient features there- fertilizers would b& the pri- of? ority sectors for futurg eoo* nomic cooperation; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (ii) Co-operation between the two MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI countries in the field o f sci- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): ence and technology, parti- (a) Yes, Sir. cularly in developing new sources of energy and me- (b) The main features of the agree- thods for more efficient uses ment are as follows:— of traditional sources of energy, should be strength- (i) Both countries would accord ened; to the commerce of each other, the most favoured

Trade agreement between India and Algeria Cash assistance for exports through 536. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA Banks SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL BHATIA; 537 SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA * Will the Minister of COMMERCE be SHRI M RAM GOPAL pleased to state* REDDY: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be (a) whether Government propose to pleased to state. give cash assistance for exports (a) whether a trade agreement has through banks; and recently been concluded with Algeria; and (b) if so. the advantages thereof? m Written Answer, PHAMHBfA 12,1MI iSAKA, Wmen An***, m

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE _ The share of our imports from the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI East European Socialist countries aa VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): compared to our global trade h a X n (n) and (b). A proposal to disburse cash compensatory support to ex- 21 per U« cent. + *>er c6n*’ an<* °* Exports porters through Banks is urider con- sideration. Controlled Cloth Trade with Eut European Socialist Countries 539. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the Mi- nister of COMMERCE be pleased to 538. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will state; the Minister Of COMMERCE be pleas- ed to state; (a) whether 6000 sq. metres of un- sold controlled cloth is lying with the (a) whether our trade with East mills in West Bengal; European Socialist countries has been growing considerably; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (c) the total controlled cloth pro- (b) whether our trade with Socialist duced by textile mills in the country countries is on favourable terms; and at present; and (c) the broad outlines thereof and (d) what is West Bengal’s Textile the share of our present foreign trade Miirs obligation in this regard? with the Socialist countries as com- pared to our total foreign trade? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) and (b). As on 31st January, 1976, VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): the stock of controlled cloth unsold (a) and (b) Yes, Sir or sold but remaining unlifted with (c) India's trade with the East Eu- mills in West Bengal is estimated to ropean Socialist countries (except have been about 8,369 bales. The ac- Yugoslavia) is conducted through ba- cumulation was due to sluggish mar- lanced clearing accounts in non-con- ket for cloth. To facilitate the quick- vertible Indian rupees. Funds gene- er off-take of controlled cloth from rated through imports into India are mills procedures of allocation and credited to the accounts of these lifting have recently been stream- countries in Rupees which can be lined. liquidated only through exports from (c) and (d). The total production; India. of controlled cloth during the last The total trade turnover between three quarters, alongwith the obliga- India and East European Socialist tion fixed for mills in West Bengal countries (including Yugoslavia) dur- are as under:— ing the last three years has been as follows; (Figures m m illion sq. metres) (Rs. in Crores) Obligation Total Penod fixed fo r production Year Imports Exports Total mills in m the West country Bengal *973-73 231 470 701 19 73-74 400 488 888 April.—June 197* 1058 177*87 1974-75 653 681 1334 July—September 197 5 8-83 145*65 1975-76 *65 335 600 April— Sept. Oct.—December 1975 9*96 168-57 *23 W ri*te» Answer* MAECH la, 1974 Written Answer*' %z4

Trade agreement with Sri Lanka a decline of 15 per cent in kmg-haul tourism. 540. SHRI BAM SAHAI PANDEY: SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- 2. The Department of Tourism THAM; have 14 Tourist Offices overseas in the major tourist markets for pro- SHRI M. RAM GOPAL moting tourism to India. Their func- REDDY; tion include publicity of India’s tour- Will the Minister of COMMERCE ist attractions, dissemination of tour- be pleased to state: ist information, organisation of exhi- bitions and special India Nights, re- (a) whether a trade agreement has lease of advertisements and articles recently been concluded with Sri in newspapers, issue of monthly Lanka; and newsletters about the latest facilities (b) if so, the salient features of the available in India; exhibition of tour- agreement? ist film documentaries on India through Television net-work, travel clubs, universities and colleges, etc. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 3 The Tourist Offices overseas VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): maintain libraries of tourist films and (a) and (b). No Trade Agreement reference books on India; issue pe- has been concluded with Sri Lanka riodic newsletters to travel trade recently. However, a meeting of the giving latest information about the Indo-Sri Lanka Joint Commission for facilities in India and the new deve- Economic, Trade and Technical Co- lopments taking place in tourism in- operation, was held on 9th and 10th frastructure Tourist Offices also pro- February, 1976, wherein, inter aha, mote vi&it to India of important tra- flow of trade between the two coun- vel writers, journalists and film mak- tries was reviewed. ers a® guests of the Department of Tourism a1* a result of which India Tourist Offices gets free publicity in travel maga- zines and on T.V. Circuits etc. Over- 541. SARDAR SWARAN SINGH SOKHI; Will the Minister of TOUR- seas Tourist Offices distribute on an average 4 million copies of tourist ISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: literature to potential visitors to India (a) the reasons, why the perform- ance of our tourifat offices in foreign countries is poor; and Chairman, I.TD.C. (b) steps Government propose to take to improve their performance 542 SARDAR SWARAN SINGH and for theli effective functioning? SOKHI- Will the Minister of TOUR- ISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN pleased to state; THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SUREN- (a) whether the C.B I. inquiry insti- DRA PAL SINGH): (a) and (b) The tuted against the Chairman of India performance of Government of India Tourism Development Corporation has Tourist Offices overseas has been good- been completed; The effectiveness of these Offices can be judged from the fact that We have (b) if so, the findings thereof; and achieved 10 per cent growth in tour- ist arrivals in 1975 against the world- (c) action taken by Government in wide increase of only 2 per cent and the matter? S»5 Written Answer* PHAIX3UNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written An»toera 12$

THE MINISTER OP TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR); Oa) to (c). A probe by the Central Bureau of Investigation 544. Tim : into certain furniture contracts en- *ftr j t pt t farm * ^ tered into by the India Tourism De- ffrr fSSr for: velopment Corporation is under way. (*p) aRTT WF7T m JTT *F5fV Institutional Credit to landless labourers ^ »rf ; 543 SARDAR SWARAN SINGH (J3T) W faO T % SOKHI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: fprir qsror fsrr «r zrfe gT, fTt w r shhc srrsnT fwrcr % f?r^ (a) whether new Schemes have been drawn up to devise alternative * i i Jrfrrcr awrf f ; agencies to provide institutional cre- dits to landless labourers; and (*r) &r w f^rr znwn (b) if so, the salient features there- sfir ur q-l^rr 5TPT sr^iflr? of? 5THTT taflHW THE MINISTER OF STATE IN If 773* * ^ (%ft «rrcri*F$) -• CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING ( v ) 3fl,etl 8 (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- JEE): (a) and (b). Regional Rural ipfT '41-1 Banks sponsored by the commercial banks are being set up under the Regional Rural Bonks Act, 1976. One (*r) (»r) • w m *r ?V t r ^ r r of the main objects of these banks is jpV TPT «fV fa TSfr if % to attempt effective coverage of small *mfr snrfar % *** and marginal farmers, landless la- bourers and rural artisans. Ten’ such $ 1 fafp; ^ fsrq; banks have been established by the rrzp 5T5PU fft grSTTtft- end of February, 1976. Rural Banks «rr | qreft f% r? % s m r % wijl be providing credit direcily as ■o ** well as through the Farmers, Service f^rrr ^qrpff % ?rr«r^rr«r P m Societies whose main object is to pro- *nr tfy ?3tr f^n *prr 1 1 srw?sr vide integrated assistance to farmers | \ particularly to small/marginal farm- ers and agricultural labourers

The public sector banks have for- fafaS *f,*T *T sprit anwr mulated schemes to provide financial assistance to landless agricultural la- 545. *T»rr : SRTflW bourers who have been allotted sur- 3T?«ft ^rr {% • plus land for their working capital as also for term-loan requirements. These banks are also encouraging and (*r) ^rr ^ r s j^ r ^rfsTTrrfrarf ^ financing landless labourers parti- cularly those released from bonded §r 2.25 i& ft % w q ft labour to take up activities allied to agriculture. vV?rf?r^f,?r>^r fa ta X27 w ritten A i«to «rs MABCH 12, 1970 W ritte* A r u m s

*rra *pr*t «rr# w rfW f % * t wrt* star wr, wwd i«76 fur f ; sftr %«r^w fvfffinr nmfiuft i ^ k ^ ^ I w ?TV 2 7 * n w f ^ (tf& rtfflFfa (fe?T irnft %cr irfT ^ *rt ftrr'T?rrr f^rr *ptt V Kfhn-finTtfr % f w *m jg v t m r ?w s*r ^r t ?t t ing the current financial year; *r*mrr ^rr ^ f^r irf fiftr? «trt I w f ^ «rr i srfrsr tnj o ^ o fp ^ r (b) whether any attempt is being made by the Central and the State ^ 'iwnr *iif *rnr % *T*w?sr *r arVfjErr^ Governmiant arfawr ^ % rr^ *r ^f^rr ductive expenditure, and *WT | I ^KSf irffo ^ o Sf (c) steps taken in this regard’ w ^ tft rr ^rr qfy fW »rcr THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 5 i w r srnr q-i^R srrti 11 MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI; (a) A statement showing the break up of the *?*?% 5fi?r %*rr sit r t development and non.development ex- penditure of each State Government 546. «ft *?W * ¥PTT : ifqT fa * for the last three years is laid on the W?TT% ^ fTTT ^ r fT ffF=pr Table of the House [Pleaced in Li- brary See No LT-10428/76] ’*ftr f ^ f y jtst Bi^arnsnF (w fvt (b) and (c) It has been the endea- ^ ^ r ) *rfsrfosr*r ^ % ?rtr vour of both thq Central and State f*fi*i-f*ra cr^^TT sfft fe=r^ srqfrT Governments to accelerate the tempo t o *pV ?Tf | !r«r^r fr»T f*Fr **rt %crft of development by investment m core sectors without undermining the price fwfr ^rffr «w wrtit £ ffrfb? stability achieved over the last year The Central and State Plans of the cur rent year accord a high priority to in- Tnmr *ftr arftpnr from % raft vestments in key areas of the economy like Agriculture, Irrigation, Power, TfWT («T> STopr y q ir WWSff ) : Fertilizers, Coal, Petroleum and essen- ^^Tcmf^ftiTsrr ®9R»rer3F (*n»rftr tial industries like Cement, Paper, Ship Building and Transport. The ap- w ^ r ) ^arf^nr % srtfto f ^ w r proved Plan outlay of the Centre and STrffeRnf^Tf «pt 5EH*r%qf «Ft the States for 1975-76 involves a step S*9 Written Aniwtr* PHALGUNA 2*, 1887 (SAKA) Written An$w§n 130

up o f 28.6 pe? 75. At the same time, atten- torates office; and tion i« alse being given to curtail non- essential aim unproductive expendi- (d) if so, the action taken by Gov- tures. ernment in this regard?

literal Trm sfer of Mosey Tbroofii THE MINISTER OF STATE IN S m u iitta r CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT 548. SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY; o f REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Will the Minister of FINANCE be PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE):1 pleased to state: (a) to (d). The information is being collected and will be laid oa the Table fa) whether substantial amounts of the House. are still being illegally transferred out of the country through smuggling; and u W W W WVgWRT HTTPWT !PfT (b) if so, what steps Government v ^ _ are taking to check this? WWW

THE MINISTER OF STATE TN 551. tmmmt : w CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING fa t jnsft JX% jr tr ftrr f a : (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- JEE): (a) and (b). Intelligence re- («p ) *rr ports from various sources indicated anfaif anWrfmrf that as a consequence of the concerted drive by the Government against ^ r r f^ ft ^ smuggling and black-money. the tr *rat wnft ^ hoarders of such wealth were attempt- ing to transfer theSr assets abroad f («■) ?rt ****$ 3 *rr«r through phvsical movements of Indian currency. The fiold formations were s r m iirr | ; 1f t r accordingly alerted. The reports now (*r) irfs ft, ?ft nr *r«Fsr ^ •received indicate that due to greater vigilance at exit points this flow has ffTOTT WT SfftrftaT I ? almost stopped. TTwn^T Ifan fw*m%w*rft Complaints retarding harassment to Innocent people during Raida ;rwnnft (aft * 9iw y m r ) 549 SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (w) % (»T) trTT?f^ fT ^r % VT- MUNSI: Will the Minister of FIN- anf?r w m ftr % ANCE be pleased to state: wafonfrgf ?wt v t «ns>wT % faff w (a) whether during the time of raids wtpt tst* wrSr *r«r faftrer W % and searches conducted bv ^ various Departments of Finance Ministry it ^ t was found that a f*w officials of Cus- fappr s ra ^ «n£r toms, Excise and Income-Tax Depart- * «TTTw«r *r$ 1 1 ment are also involved; (b) if so, the facts thereof; fr* * t v if | fa (c) whether any complaint was re- ceived by Government about the ftao- dulant methods adopted by some offi- fo ri cers at Kanpur to harass the innocent Z31 Written Answers MARQH J.2, 197(5. ^ Written Answers 1 3 2 *

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|?7T^f? 7t ?nr^=^cr '(b ) if so, the facts thereof? % 50 w%rfwf ^ ^rWi-, 1976 t THE MINISTER OF TOURISM ^ rrm ■; AND-CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR): (a) anri (b1. Indian (^ ) JTr? ?t, Airlines is operatine two direct ser- ^^tT f ; 5ftT ■•'.•■ vices between;, Bamljgiy and CocKin, with HS-748 aircraft.- TWese services (^) ^TTfTTT ^ qr ^trr srf^- provide same day connection at Bom- bay to passengers from Cochin bound I ? ■ ■ — for Delhi. Similar same day connec- tions are available at Bombay for passengers from Delhi travelling to ' ?I>T 4%»T f^HTiT% SIHiTt , Cochin. Indian Airlines ha* no pro- 7T5JT (isft _ 5iaR jflTT H^jff:) posal to link Cochin with Mangalore. (^ ) % (^t) . ^n#i? fef# |?w? Air-Service from Mangalore Jtq Cochin % ^ffer ?ftT ^nr^fsr^ 5r?r5nf^ via Calicut % fFtNrT^'f ^ 2 3 -1 -1 9 7 6 555. SHRI C. H. MOHAMED r r ^ am f?^T ftrfw §:pt KOYA: Will the Minister of- TOU- RISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be ^ ^ ??r ?m?Fn % pleased to state: ?rrT5T'rr ^ r ^ = ^ r fw (a) .whether any .final decision has 5TTT ?rf?r^fe f^nrr been taken on starting an air service % jrftraTir ^ q^r?'^ - from Mangalore to Cochin via Calicut; - arra * I ... f^ !J^ ‘ (b) if sorfee-'-lyrOad outlin'ap there- ?TT^EfV ^ ^ JRt I of? • .133 Written Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Written Answers . . . '34 ' '“'fHE MIl^^STER OF TOURISM fourteen nationalised banks, the other AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ schedukd^^^ and the BHADUR): (a) and (tr)- 1 Indian commercial banks at Airlines have no proposal to provide the end of 1975; . , an air service from Mangalore to C^hi^,-via Calicut in the foreseable " _ (b^.vthe total deposits lii the non- fultire. However, Safari Airways have banking cpmpanies at the end of i975- submitted an application to operate snd * •on the Bombay-Calicut-Cochin route. The application is" under considera- deliin •tion. ■ • -. . deposits has gone down in nationalised banks dunng the years 1974 and 1975?

TJew Plans to Boost Exports THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHARGE OP THE DEPARTMENT '356. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: - OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI ■Will the Minister of XJOMMERCE be . PRANAB KUMAR MUBaffiRjEE): pleased te state: ' " - ' .• -• (a) Relevant data are set out be- low e— • 2 is) whether Government have •chalked . out" new plans to bOost ex- ports; and V-. (excluding inter-bank deposits) ■ ■ ‘ (b)' if so, the main features of the rplaijs .and ,measures being taken in AS ' a t t h e ' END ^OF DECEMBER ;.t^:^l>egara? ' 1975 . , ’

DEPUTY MINISTER IN'THE Ban ks""^rb^p Rs. ■MfPflfSTR? •C05VIMERCE ^ 'r ^ R I Crores VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) and (b). Export promotion is a State B,?nk o f & ’ itS' contintious process. While the cur- snbsidiaries ■ . ; 3822 rent export promoti'on‘’ineasiires are' 14—Nationalised Banks ' '*7533 continuously kept under review new " Other scheduled conomercial measures ar% taken to suit the chang- banks . . ^ 2127 ing* circumstances. Among the fteps Non-scheduled ecmmercfel 'recently talcen mention m ay-bS made batiks* 20 of the abolition of the export duty on jute manufactures, waiver of customs Data are prevision?, duty on advarice^Iteentes,’ new proce- ♦Relate to M 'irch, 1975 dure for payment Of draw back of customs and» excise duties_ and cash (b) Reserve Bank have rep-^ted compensatory- upport^-^ more -vigorous % that available data relating to deposits participation in exhibitions, fairs ab- of non-banking companies based on road' and hew liberal procedure for the returns,submitted' by ttiem, the release of foreign exchange for busi- survey of which has been cojjapleted, ness travel etc. -- relate to end- March, 1973. As on that date the deposits of non-banking com- DeifOSits in SJB.I; and %ther National- panies amounted to Rs. 727.8 xrores. - isea Banks - 557.'SHRI P. R. SHENOY: Will'the (c) The rate of growth of deposits Minister of FINANCE be pleased to of nationalised banks .. had : declined state; - - s, . , from 22.1 per cent during 1973 to 11.84 per cent tjurihg 1974. However, dur- (a) the total deposits in-the State •' ing 1975, tbe rate-of growth has in-, Bank of India and its subsidiaries; the tr^ased’ tb IT.OS 'pei? cent. " iys '* * "» » » 1MW 2H n , i m Wrtttn JbwMf, *3* ^ % w o . ait wiitgwii’ taiHi Scale inftMtry and Etatnff tbeae^fickemes in the financial m et «f SttCe 5M. SHRI P. a , SHENOT: 'Win the nauetei Mstanoe ffrsn by m m f» Minitier o f FINANCE be pleased to state: U huM ei

(a) the role played by the Life In- WP SHRIP. R.SHINOY: WlOtt* surance Corporation of India in assiat- Minister o f FINANCE be pleased to tag the small scale industry and hous- state: ing scheme* of the various State Gov- ernments; and (a) total financial assistance ren- dered by Industrial Development TtanV- ■(b) whether the l.I.C< has any of India in J97S to public sector Indus- scheme t* expand its activities in tries, major and medium industries t* these fields In 1976? private sector and the small scale In- dustry; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- (b) whether the assistance to small MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) scale industry by the I.D.B.I. is cot*~ LfC'g assistance tp small scale indus- paratively low; and try is given by way of subscriptions to (c) if so, the reasons therefor? the «hare« and bonds issued by the State Financial Corporations and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- grant of loans to cooperative societies CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT and public limited companies for set- OF REVENUE AND BANKING ting up Industrial Estates. (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHSR- The LIC gives housing loans to the JEE): (a) to (c). The details of the various State Governments in accord- financial assistance sanctioned by the ance with the allocation fixed by the Industrial Development Bank of India Ministry of Works and Housing. (I.D.B.L) during its last accounting year 1974-75 (July-June) to the in- (b) Subject to the availability of dustrial concerns in the public sector* resources, LIC envisages an increase joint and cooperative sector and pri- in the budgetary allocations under vate sector are as under:— (Rs. in crores)

F nanc*al assistance ?fncr rrrc Ti tar Scheme durmg 1974-75 (Jvly-Jme) Public Joint & Private sector cooperative sector sector t. Direct Loans (other than for .export) sad under-writing of shares of industrial concerns • 27 10 26*20 aS’ io 78' 40 (4* 60) a. Refinance of industrial loans . • • 0 *70® TOJ-OO 105*70 3. Rediscounting . 23*20 X*8o© 89*40 114*40 4- Direct loans for export . 8 70 • • 7*20 is- 90 5* Refinance o f export credits • 0*30 •• t r 50 17* 8b To t al . S9 30 28*70 244310 332*20

No t B(0 Figure* in bracket* jhow astistrnce to co-operative sector included in the mafa figure. (#0 ©Figures refer to Co-operative sector cnly. 137 V rttfcn Answer* PHALGUNA 23, W7 (SAKA) Written Answers l3 5

Classification of aflsistaace sanction- Vfcflt tat New T « d ed to small scale, medium-aeale and large-scale industrial concern* in the private sector is available only in res- W0. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- p ect o f THAM: SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAI*

Classification o f Direct Refinsn- (b) if so, broad outlines thereof; private sector industries assistance ce (c) what was the total number of participants from India; and 1 SmaR-scaJe . . . 73-io (d) whether it has been tbe first 2 Medium scale . 7 20 31*90 major Indian trade shaw in the United States? 3 Large-scale *7*90

25-10 l O J ’ OO THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): The State Financial Corporations (a) Yes, Sir. grant direct assistance In the shape of (rupee loans ’upto a maximum of (b) The Buyer Seller Meet in New Rs. 30 lakhs to concerns in the Cor- York was organised by the Trade porate ana Cooperative sectors whose Development Authority in order to -share capital and reserves do not ex- promote the sale of both, consumer and ceed Rs. 1.00 cxore. The all-India fin- light engineering goods in the U.S. ancial institutions including the TDBI market. normally consider requests from in- dustrial concerns for grant of direct The Meet resulted in spot orders assistance in the shape ot rupee Tears valued at approximately Rs. 9 crores. only if they exceed Rs. 30 lakhs. As Among the consumer goods ordered such the small-scale units do not, nor- were readymade garments, handi- mally come under the purview of the crafts, wooden furniture, leather goods ■operations of the IDBI for direct and car antennas and speakers. The -assistance. engineering goods for which orders were booked were electronics compo- IDBrs assistance to small scale sec- nents, bicycle parts, hand tools, forg- tor flows through its scheme for re- ings and castings. In addition to the financing of industrial loans which is spot orders a vigorous tempo of -de- mainly intended for the small and mand was generated for these -pro- medium sector industries. The TDBI's ducts in the U.S. market which i* ex- refinance assistance to the Small-scale pected to lead to long-term marketing sector has increased from Rs. 27.80 tie-ups. •crores (66 per cent) on 2310 applica- tion* in 1973-74 (July-June) to Rs. (c ) 97. '73*00 crores (69 per cent) on 0007 ap- plications In 1974-78 (July-June). (d) Yes, Sit. *39 ’wnmin Aiurui«rt "Written Answers vu tirt *«#»*«* Development of Konarfc (Orissa) . * * wt * (b) The problem of ■conservation of (c) The bank group* wise total of the monument is being lpoketf after the number of offices opened*"by com- by the Archaeological Survey 0f India mercial banks during the ye^r 1975 and in order further to ensure that are se* out below:— the natural ^ tiin g of thf> mohument is Aol Affirtwrib&j 'through ha^azard State Bank of Int’ ia Grcup 5ia growth ‘attrtinjj “the monufneirt jresiflt- ing in environmental "distortions, the 14 Nattontftsed Bents . * 1103 Department of Tourism has commis- Rcgonal Rural Banks 14 Itfoned the Town and Country Plan- fdng Organisation of the Ministry of Other Endian Scheduled Bahfs ‘ 684 Works and Housing to prepare a mas- Non-Schcdiiled Banks , 21 ter (land hse plan) "as & pre- requisite to undertaking7 ~afiowing T o t a l 2334 developmental activities around the Suj d Temple at Konark The Master plan is nearing flndlisation Thereafter (d) During' the- year 1975 public responsibilities for implementing sector hanks ‘opened 14 new offices arf* * «nhits office outside India. schemes would fye assigned m consul- tation with the Archaeological Survey o f ftnSia and the State Government Shortage of Trained Pilots in A i/m d ia Branch Expansion by Commercial *s Banks 563. SHRI DHAMANKAR: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL. 902. SHftf RAGHUNANDAN- LAL AVIATION Tbe pleased to state: BftATIA: -Will the Minister of FIN- ANCE® bepleasfed to state: id) whether’ Air India J6f ftsfGxng a prtblem of'acute shortage of trained1 whether the programme of pilots for Boeing 707 and new Boeing branch expansion by commercial 747- banks in the country touched a new » height last year; (b) if *0, the reasons therefore and1 (b) if so, the total number of banks * immediate Bteps being* tulStt tor opened in the centres having no command «* d simulator train£ns of batiks earlier; pilots for these aircraft? 141 Writthi-Answers PHALGUNA 22, 1897~(SAKA) Written Answers 142

THE MINISI^H—OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHM HAJ BAHADUR): (a) and (b ). At the present moment there is ‘ a' slight shortage of-pilots in Alr-'India due to ^ the fact that some of the pilots have tn?r : resigned and^opie others, have been (^) 1975 ^ 465,275 7313^ declared temporarily medically unfit. ’ I . , t'. W- K. .(c) Intensive training of gilots both as commanders and as first officers on ,{g) 19 75 ^ Boeing "^7; and T47 aircraft is in (6 8 ,8 4 8 progress. • % ITTTT I ' '

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U hr* Shri Pranab Kumar Mukerjee, % beg to lay on the Table:— PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (1) A copy of Notification No. G.S.R. 260 (Hindi and l&glish o» National Commission on versions) published In Gazette Acwcm.Ttna, 1976—Par t s I t o XV, BTC, of India dated the 28th Feb- ruary, 1976, under section 159 of the Customs Act, 1962 to- THE MINISTER o f STATE IN THE gether with an explanatory MINISTRY OP AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRj sh a h n a w a z memorandum. [Placed w Lib- «H A N ): | Jo lay m the Table:— rary. See No. LT-10419/78.] (2) A copy ol the Amendments 0 ) A statement (Hmdl and Eng. (Hindi and English versions) fcsh versions) retarding sub- to the Reserve Bank of India mission of Pinal Report ol the Scheduled Banks' Regulations, National Commission on Agri- 1951, under sub-section (4) of culture. section 98 of the Reserve Bank of India Act, 1934. (2) A copy of the Report of the [Placed in Library. See No. National Commission on Agri- LT-10420/70] culture 1978—Parts | to XV.

(3) A Note (Hindi and English L it e Insurance corporation (amend- ment Rules) versions) containing the im- portant recommendations made SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI • I in the Pinal Report of the Na- beg to lay on the Table a copy of the tional Commission on Agricul- Life Insurance Corporation (Amend- tune ment) Rules, 1976 (Hindi and English versions) published m Notification No (4) (Hmdl «>

MESSAGES FROM RAJYA SABBA BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY have to report the following messages AFFAIRS (SHRI K. RAGHU RA- received from the Secretary-General of MAIAH): With your permission, Sir. Rajya Sabha:— I rise to announce that the Govern- ment Business in this House during the (i) "In accordance with the provi- week commencing 15th March, 1979. sions of rule 127 of the Rules of Pro- will consist o f:— cedure and Conduct of Business in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed to inform the Lok Sabha that the Rajya (1) Further discussion cm the Sabha, at its sitting held on the 10th way Budget for 1976-77. March, 1076 agreed without any amendment to the Indian Lighthouse T2) Discussion on the Resolution (Amendment) Bill, 1976, which was seeking approval of the Noti- fication regarding export duty passed by the Lok Sabha at its sit- on groundnut shell, groundnut ting held on the 8th March, 1976* kernel an

12.95 hrs. BILLS AS PASSED BY RAJYA SABHA JOINT COMMITTEE ON OFFICES OF PROFIT SECRETARY-GENERAL* Sir. I lay on the Table of the House the fal- Recommendation t o R a j y a Sa b h a ro lowing Bills, as passed by Rajya el ect a Me mb e r Sabha:— SHRI PATTABHI RAMA RAO (Ra- (1) The Tamil Nadu State Legis- jamundry)- Sir, I beg to move: lature (Delegation of Powers) Bill, 1976. "That this House do recommend to Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha to (2) The Indian Standards Institu- elect one member of Rajya Sabha tion (Certification Marks) according to the principle of piopor- Amendment 3111, 1976. flonal representation by meant of 4 ? W*-W MAHCH lS.-tSTO’ - 'D ^ C (Oont.) 1 0 U N Hf* CShri Pattabhi Rama EaojJ, institutions, making them a ruhter the '«in$* jvufo were those according to the principle of function* All I would like to say . p^ppprl^onal representation by aft^r listening to those charges and m^ans; pf th^ sirtgle transferable affex listening to the sermon that he vote, to. the Joint Comtfiittee on offi. expected ug to gulp down and to un- ces of Proflt in. the vacancy caused derstand the proper functioning of the by the resignation of Shn V N Gad partv m dower is this I would only gij from the Jomt Committee and do like to remind him that the picture is communicate to this House the name slightly different from what it was of the .member so -elected by R'tjya earlier And if be is not nrcoared to Sabha to the Jomt Committee see -read «*nd be better informed I think there is no other way of convi- The motion was adopted ncing him But all I can say is that probably he j& one of the most learned Members of -the House here -because n n Jo b . some time «rgo, I remember, he had even gonp to the extent of presenimg SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR an alternative budget-some years ago GRANTS t GENERAL), 1975-76— Whether it was or was not accented, Contd is a different matter But m these financial matters in these Budgetary MR SPEAKER The House will matters I think he does have a lot of now take up further discussion on. the information So probably he refused Supplementary Demands-for Grants in to ste the other side of the picture and respect of the Budget general) - for hence these things were missed bv him 1975-78 Shrimati Rohatgi may conti All I would like to say la this What nue her reply 1

•‘« « »^'--;%e *»ve from tiu> ,(Qther sides;yand we share all ' VlftW Of those coppferjis , wlj(ch. 'the tifem-. ^.^ xpO rti-etf BUS' |#oducti»tt5r, fit bers liad pointed ojj[t'; I would' li)ce *focit>Mni »«IMf- to- the to say that the Government 'h’&ff al- c0fn»Son‘ mttB^sdm^very'.Ti pottot of ready expressed that the demand for vietChHfce economy is in sbetternoittH- a further instalmfet of D A .isu ild e r tien to-day- than -it m ‘And if* Mr. corislderatiofi; and. that the qiiestiwft-^ Sequerttf, .to s&ite of ajl ’fhifcrlaite to whenever it is decided^ will be decid- realize it ®r,. having’ refuses ed in consultation with the -staff re- to acknowledge it.’i am afrafcT that^o presentatives, before any final decision words ^an.T.convince him?th$re. -Ap^rt is taken. In this the' present exigency from thi$, certain7 questions were t « s - Of the situation'will .also haVfe to ; be ed here. It is npt-oiriy •-.-4be jgeiyiral taken into consideration. 1 as to how improvement on the economy as » the position has already changed. whole, but the timely actions taken nOW-fafciCh wifl; ‘.b« able to;' 'trldSsfcirm AboGt DA to pensioners, we do not’ the'Indian socifity into a dififfeTent need any reminders about the plight society where -■ we can ■ see, we can of the . pensioners. We have been piri- introspect and .take corrective steps Jn form e"d o f' that by various- quarters. time. It is-a .fipcial_ aty?,- -economic We are aware that' pensioners are transformation which we are really facing a’ .lot o f' difficulties. ‘It Is a seeing for ourselves. Many of ~ Ute huVnan pj^blem, . But^ "this human steps which we— haye thought of problem has to be seen along with'tfefr earlier, -probably- we could, not take budgetary gpsiitibn. Thfe budget is tl6t . them;.4>at to-day- in -this: period of far.awSy. All these things are under emergency, with a better sense of. dis- consideration. cipline, with a greater cooperation of labour, management and every one, SHRI .S. Mv BANERJEE /Kanpur)*: we find to-day that the people are We know that the Government have poised to expect a, better future- .for all sympathy fdr them. But concrete themselves; and -in this spirit jOf co- measures have tt> be taken some time. operation and rapport- and dialogue, You say that we have to wait for the-- I say that much more can be achiev- budget before some decision can be ed and our programmes xan. be taken. But Government did. notWait accelerated and the speed can also for the budget when tt w.as a question really be maintained- And in..this, res- of increase pt allowances of Mertibefs pect, what Mr. Sequeita and some 'of qf Parliament. Jt -was passed in ode the colleagues have said will certainly minute. But vrhen it is ■* a question not be conducive lo ‘ the* ‘atmosphere affecting the "pensioners. Government which has been generated recently. ;Tt is thinking of the overall budgetary would only go towards demoralizing—1 position , of "the country. There shbtkld mean saying .things which are far from be some time-limit for takirtg a deci- the truth. I think itis_ the biggest sion on this. ^ disservice which any^Meriiber ean tkj at present, because the nation is really SlfRTMATI SUSHILA RQHATGT: I poised for a better future, for-produc- have nothing more to add. It is under tivity and growth—growth with social active consideration • of the Govern* jugtice-=-which has been,our aim and ment. object all theseyears. Soma of the > ShriSequeira raised the- question of • Members chose to rai?e a few .Questions house building advances to Al]> Jodia here. I , wmember JVIr. Banetfee who Service Officers. It has been decided hails , from Kanpur, also raising the by the Government of India in the .<3MStkjn of -D.A. and the . JX/L .to the Ministry to pay the amount in full, in- pensioners. I- «ah-assure turn thjtt he cluding ttyt part arrears t o . tha State only:Member, thaughhehas Government, when the claim ii e^balh Sways 'raised ft. There are Members lished. In view of the above decision*- * 5 1 O^S.O. (Grenl) 1975-7$ MARCH 12, 1976 DJS.G. (0*0.) mfeTB i y t

[Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi] various questions and made a general i t has been decided to pay the amount appeal, But the main point that arises in full, including the past arrears, to in dealing with the supplementary Tthe State Governments. demands i» whether budgeting; could not be done better so that such large Regarding the fishing trawlers, if sums of money do not have to be de- ..has been decided to make all the pay- manded in the supplementary demands. ments due to the ship-yards in advance Several points that were referred to by the Government and also to arrange by Shrl Sequeira related to that. I for the issue of guarantee for deferred think the Minister and the Government payments, with arrangement to re- should give some thought to this and cover the amount from the buyers. see why in so many ol these cases This is to avoid any delay which may things could not have been anticipated arise. at the time of the budget

Coming to Shrl Mavalankar, yester- -day he raised certain very basic points. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: He referred to the issue of comme- There is always scope for improve- ■r lucrative stamps and said that some ment. All those points he has men- decision should be taken early about tioned would certainly be taken into the issue of such stamps to comme- consideration. At the same time, I morate certain persons. We have no find that most of the things which Shri quarrel on that issue. If any person Sequeira mentioned were vague; noth- .has come to lhe top in any sphere, his ing concrete. They should be and will name should be considered. Here it be looked into. 1 have already con- is not a question of personality but ceded that there is scope for improve- whether the people deserve to be re- ment. membered by posterity, because they -are already well-known in lhe country. -I think that auestion can be considered MR. SPEAKER: The point raised by •on merits. We have no quarrel on the hon. Member is very pertinent. In .that particular question. the past, Supplementary Demands came up only when there were un- The other questions I have already avoidable reasons, or reasons which ^touched upon. But 1 would like to say could not be foreseen in the beginning. that this is not the time when we Otherwise, the Minister should provide should go in for small and minor con- for them in the normal budget. troversies. I would say that the Par- liament would be falling in its duty if it did not project the correct image of SHRI S. M- BANERJEE: Quarterly the country before the public and if it budget. '-only highlights some irregularities here -and there. If any specific charges are MR. SPEAKER: Yes, it becomes in made or if any specific irregularities the nature of a quarterly budget. -are brought to the notice of the Gov- •eminent. whether it is against the ’bureaucracy or anybody, we are pre- The question is: pared to take action. “That the respective Supplement- With these words, I would like to ary sums not exceeding the amounts say that the supplementary demands on Revenue Account and Capital Ac- ‘ Should receive the unanimous support count shown in the third column of • of the House. the Order Pafcer be granted to the President to defray the charges that SHRl H. M. PATEL (Dhandhuka): liament would be failing in its duty if 'The bon. Minister has answered the ing the year ending the 31st day of 153 M G . (Q *nl) PHAL0UNA.22, 1697 (SAKA) D.S.Q. (Genl.) r«* 1978*79 1975-79

March, 1979 in respect of the follow- 33 to 41, 43 to 54, 56 to 90, 62, ing demandg entered in the second 64, 69, 69 to 71, 75 to 77, 79k column thereof— 81, 93, 84, 86 to 90, 92, 93, 95, 96, 101, 105 to 107.’* Demands Nos. 2 to 4, 6, 12, 13, 15, 17 to 19, 21, 25, 27 to 31, The motion was adopted.

Supplementary Demands /or Grants (General) for 1975-76 voted by LA Sabha

No. o f Amount o f Demand for Grantor Demand Name o f Demand voted by the House

Revenue Capital Rs. Rs.

MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGA- TION 2 Agriculture f ...... 16.54.11.000

3 Fisheries ...... 35,43,000 1,16,00,000*

4 Animal Husbandry and Dairy Development 3.94.90.000

6 Department ol Food 72.72.80.000 139,61,81,000-

MINISTRY OF COMMERCE 12 Foreign Trade and Export Production 1,000 2,000ft'

m i n i s t r y o f communications

13 Ministry o f Communications 25,25,000

z$ Posts and Telegraphs Working Expenses 46,30.35,000

17 Capital Outlay on Posts and Telegraph* 20,00,00,000'-

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE 18 Ministry o f Defence ...... 6,57,000 7,70*000* 19 Defence Services—A r m y ...... 26,47,28,000 21 Defence Services—AirFoice...... 23,32,929000

MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL WELFARE 25 Education 9,41,00,000 *$5< M jG M O feftlt) 1879v9B* W tOXM a«R |r »lM . (MU) MUTt 3#'

MINISTRY OP ENERGY 27 Ministry of Energy 5,93.000 28 Power D;ve!opn&*nt 6,16^0,000 39 Coal and Lignite 77»h ,oog 31,1^ 1,000

MtNrSTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

3 0 Mi lutry of External Affurs 4,95.25,000

MINISTRY OF FINANCE' 3 1 Ministry o f Finance 90369,000 33 Union Excise D ities 7,87,97,000 34 Taxes on Inom e Estate Dxry, W;alth Tax and*Gift Tax 6,66,74,000 35 Stamps 7,27,94,000 36 Audit 1,98,06,000 •%* 37 Cj-rsncy, C>mage and Mint 8,80,68,0003>32,i7/*oo 38 Pensions ] 3,00,00,000 5$* O^ium and Alfcilnd Factories 3,10,60,000 40 T ansfrrs to State and Union TerritoryGovern*1* m nts 34,20,57,000 Other Exp nature of the Ministry of F nance 52,14,44,000 293,75,58,000

MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY PLANNING 43 M m stryof Health and Fam’Iy Planning 11 3,62,000 44 Medical and Public Health 15,10,24,000 7,33,69,000 49 Family Plarnmg 15,13.27,000

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS «9 46 Ministry of Home Affairs 15,96,000 -47 Cabinet 23,36,000 48 Department o f Personnel and Administrative Reforms 96,47,000 49 Police 20,09,91,000 35,00,000 j o 'Census 105,00,000 KJ7 QJ! G (O en l) PHALQUNA. ?2t . ,1$)7 (SA K A ) Z).$.CL (Qgni.£ 158

5* Other Expenditure o f the Ministry o f ’IHEo^rc Affairs ...... 25>65»65,ooo 3,31,21,000

r 5 2 Delhi- - ...... 12.25.70.000 6,80,63,000

53 Chandigarh . . 1.88.52.000 27,50,000

54 Andaman and Nicobar Islands 3.3J»34.000 37,20,000

56 Dadra and Nagar Haveli I9,i7,boo

57 Lakshadweep ...... 4 2 .9 4 .0 0 0 * 1 " * *

MINISTRY OP INDUSTRY AND CIVIL SUPPLIES

58 Ministry of Industry and Civil S upplies 38.13.000

59 Industries • • ...... 3.88.07.000 . 4*,38,84*000

<>o Village and Small Industries i,3*J2,ooo

MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BP OADCASTING

Ministry of Information and Broad casting? 7,54,000

x>4 Broadcasting ...... 7.41.79.000

MINISTRY OF LABOUR

<56 Labour and Employment 2.21.10.00

MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS

■69 Ministry ox Petroleum and Chemicals 9,85,000 70 Petroleum \nd Petro-Chemicals Industries 2,46,89,000 I *,50,01,000 71 Fertilizer and Chemicals Industries 11,37,000 18,00,01,000

MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND-TRANSPORT

75 Ministry of Shipping and Transport . 15,60,000 76 Roads .... 8.65.44.000 77 Ports, Lighthouses and Shipping 3.04.89.000 20,07,11,000 159 MARCH & 1990 «S M ) WJflM* 1*6

t z 3

MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MIMES 79 Department of Steel ...... 29,69*000 79.04.00.000 8x Mine* and M i n e r a l s ...... 5,i 2,74,ooo 25.48.00.000

MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AfcD REHABILITATION S3 Supplies and Disposals...... 40,00,000 84 Department o f Rehabilitation , .. 2,30,52,000 88,34,000

MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION 8$ M eteorology ...... 1,40,63,000

87 Aviation ...... 4,04,37,000

88 Tourism ...... 11,00,000

MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING |

89 Ministry o f Works and Housing 7,46,000

90 Public Works .... . 1,45,62,000 1 ,00,00,000

92 Housing and Urban Development 2,82,86,000 3,31,67,000

93 Stationery and P rin tin g ...... 4,43,02,000

DEPARTMENT OF ATOMIC ENERGY r..

95 Atomic Energy Research Development and Industrial Projects . . . 1,38,00,000

96 Nuclear Power Schemes . . . 5,97,00,000 1,26,00,000

DEPARTMENT OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY iox Survey of India • z,50,00,000

PARLIAMENT, DEPARTMENT OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS, SECRETARIATS OF THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT AND UNION PUBLIC SERVICE COMMIS- SION 105 Rajya Sabha ...... 7,80,000

X Secretariat o f the Vice-President 30*000 id l Appropriation (Wo. 3) PHALGXWA■**.■ tm {SAKA) SUtHvav Budget, W # ■' 1078-t?—-Gteftl, Dig,

12.1S km. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: APPROPRIATION (NO. 3) BILL*, 1976 1 beg to move; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE "That the Bill be passed.” MINISTRY OF FNANCE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): I beg to move MR. SPEAKER,- The question is; for leave to introduce a BiU to autho- Thai the Bill be passed/' rise payment and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of The motion was adopted. the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial year 1975- 76. 12.18 krs. MR. SPEAKER: The question is: “That leave be granied to intro- RAILWAY BUDGET. M76-77—GJBN*. duce a Bill to authorise payment and HAL DISCUSSION appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the Consoli- MR. SPEAKER: tVe take up ftfr dated Fund of India for the services Railway Budget. Twelve hours are of lhe financial year 1975-76.” allotted for this. The motion was adopted, SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: T SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE (How*- introduce! the Bill. Hah); The Railway Minister, while presenting this Budget, has claimed I beg to movet: manifold achievements and spectacular "That the Bill to authorise pay- improvement in the railways’ transport ment and appropriation of certain capacity. However, the reports that he further sums from and out of 1he has submitted along with the Budget Consolidated Fund of India for the papers do not prove his claim. The services of the financial year 1073- railway economy has been one of stag- 76. be taken into consideration.’' nation and even the Railway Conven- tion Committee, which has submitted MR. SPEAKER; The question is-. its report very recently, has categori- cally stated that it is very precarious. “That the Bill to authorise pay- I pointed this out in my speech last ment and appropriation of certain further sums from and out of the January when there was a debate on Consolidated Fund of India for the the Resolution on the Railway Conven- services of the financial vear 1975- tion Committee's recommendations. 76, be taken into consideration." But the picture that the Minister hasr tried to portray here :s that the health- The motion was adopted. of the railway economy has improved and that it is now t,ut of crisis. This MR. SPEAKER: Thft question is: is not a reality. A close analysis will “That Clauses 2 and 3, the Sche- expose the real position. dule. Clause the Enacting Formula and the Title stand part of the Bill.” The total route kilometres increased during 1974-75 wcrk out to be only 67- The. motion was adopted. So, you are arranging your railway Clause 2 and 3. the Schedule. Clause 1. finances without new lines, and many the Enacting Formula and the Title areas still remain undeveloped and were added to the Bill. regions are kept backward. Actually»

•Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary Part II. Section 2. dated.. 12-3-76. tlntroduced/Moved with the recommendation of the President. 2758 LS—0. l6 3 ^Railway Budget, M ARCH 12, 1976 Railway Budget, 164 1976-77— Genl. Dis. 1976-77—Gen!. Dis.

[Shri Samar Mukherjee] have been better if the Railway Minis- ter would have made some introspec- additions to the total route kilometres since 1950-51 till today aniount to less tion and analysed the situation objec- tively rather than adopti the usual than 7.000 kilometres. The main rise is seen only by way of doubling the method of making tr.ll claims. Here track. Thereiore, your entire .Hailway I want to mention that I have got a economy is based essentially on the Report on the Wheels which have been track lines laid during the British manufactured in Durgapjr Steel Plant. days. There has been hardly any new They are having stock accumulated development worth the name. How- and the railway is not taking delivery ever. the supplies are already outstip- of those wheels and the Steel Plants ping the demand. Ci.ace the economy have been faced with a serious pro- in the country itself is stagnating and blem of storage. They are thinking the Indian Railways Year Book 1974- whether any further production is re- "75 has accepted the state of “semi- quired or not, because of non-delivery stagnation” and '•growth rate of about of the railway wheel.^. 2.5 per cent in the iadustrial sector” If you see the .speeches of the Rail- which the Ministry Las characterised way Ministers every year, you will ■as “By no means spectacular”, so, the find the same optimism, but now the railway economy is dire^rtly related with the general economy of the coun- Railway Minister has expressed con- fidence in “a nW image of the Rail- -try. You must keep in inind the state ways emerging from the mists of the ■of affairs of the general economy. However, though the progress in the past.” There were iio leferences of ■general economy was not spectacular this mist in the earlier speeches of the «ccording to the 'Railway Ministry— Railway Ministers. Then from where has this mist come now? "What I want •this is your admission—they want to ■claim that in the Railway economy to say is you are still in the inist and there has heen spectacular improve- there is no possibility of Railways ments. This shows complacency on coming out of it in the near future, be- the part of the Railway administra- cause the condition of Indian economy is such that it is now 'u the mist of tion. recession. An economic crisis is there. Though new figures are being men- tioned frequently by different Minis- Another example of this complacen- tries claiming that production has step- cy is seen in the tall claims about the ped up by so much, this is because of so-called significant increase in the emergency and the main slogan has traffic. The .speech of the Railway concentrated on mo’^e production. But Minister claims substantial rise in it is also a fact that demand is going traffic of coal, steel and cement. It is down and various factories are being •exactly these items whose stocks have closed and there are lay-offs and lock- accumulated to an unpreceflented level outs, It has become a common feature. in the recent past arc the manage- Now , thousand’s and thousands of ments of these concerns have no place workers have been thrown out of job •even to store the stocks of the.se items. very recently. The State Labour Their anxiety to liquidate the stocks Minister has stated on the floor of the led to the temporary rise in the rail West Bengal Assembly that during traffic because these items were in this period of emergency more than a ■short supply some time back. lakh of workers have bper. laid-off. Several thousands of workers have However, the supplies are already hepr, +hro'>m '•'iit of io'f's and a laree outstripping the demand and after number ''f factories havp be»n do'^ed ■some days, offtake if these items is T'ho nroduction is beins accu- "bound to be less. Therefore, it would mulated because demand is going 19$ ti&twav Budget, „ FHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Hoilwaj Budget, 166 1076-77—(Jrenl. Dia. 1976-77—GenZ. Dis.

[Start S anm r Mukherjee] take refuge in complacency and t*.

&8»re& H« said that they had an there Otherwise, the wnole bench is 4$pen imnd. Repeatedly, assurances empty. have been given on the floor of this House that, if there is 110 case ot viol SHRI SAMAR MUKHLRJEE. You *nce or sabotage agaias>t arybod>, it are there I am here I want to re- wall be favourably considered and present the cases of workers on whom those people will be taken back But, great injustice has been done Please even though we have given several listen to this instances, they have not been taken back I have, with me, a copy of the The Railway Board issued one cic- .Memorandum submitted by the AH culai letter, as I have mentioned a India Railway Employees’ Federation little while ago Their letter No. on 22-6-1975 to the Convention Com- E(LR)75NFI/1 dated 29-5-1975, reier- mittee where the\ have given names of red to therein, was not circulated victimised persons who arc sflTl await What is m that circular* Under this ing Government’s consideration In letter, the minutes of the PNM meet- Dhanbad Division, 41 names have been ing held between the Railway Board given against whom theie are no chan- and the All India Railway mens Fede- ges of sabotage or violence but they ration were appendeJ This is from have not been taken back til] now the minute^ of the PNH meeting THE, MINISTER OF RAIT WAYS (SHRI KAMLAPATI TRIPATHI) In the case of temporaly emplo- They must be very t.ndesiraole yees ii their services have been tet- rainated under rule 149 RI for mere SHERI SAMAR MUKHERJFE Ac- participation m strike their cases cording to the Railway bureaucrats, would bi levicwed foi being t*iken they are undesirable back to service on rxeipt of indivi- dual representation * SHRI KAMLAPATI 1RTJ-ATHI Ac- cording to us 7 his was the circular it>sucd by the SlIRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE Ac Pdilway Board on 29-5 1975 just be- cording to Railway bure-iuciats, they fore Lme^ency are undesirable Then yt u should not g*ve a°y a^uranc^ on the ^ o r of The cases of other temporary em- the House After Riving an absurd nee ploy tes who have n^rn taken back that all will be taken back except those as fresh entrants also will be simi- against whom there ire larh rt\iewed for rninstatement ’ SHRI KAMLAPATI TRIPA7HI But this circular was not circulated. They instigated the strike This is the admission of the Divisional Office of the South Eastern Railway. SltRI SAMAR MUKHERJFE r shall They have admitted that th*^ has not give examples how the buieaucrary been circulated Temporary wotkers treating the employees The Railway have been thrown out of 30b and m Board issued one circular lettei No Januan last Shn Qureshi hlmsel1 P fLR>/ll75STI-400 dated 12-1-1976 made a statement that they would not The Railway Board’s letter No E(LR) t i>e taken back because they had volun- ^SNFI/l dated 2P ’v-107'i referred to tarily given up the lob What pttitude therein was not circuited I was re- js expressed bv this7 Nearly seven garding casual labourer*! thousand temporary workers have been thrown out of job since the strike in SWBI KAMLAPATI TRIPATHI* 1074 and they have not been taken Only the Leader of the Opposition is bask 171 Railway Budget, MARCH 12, 197$ Railway Budget. 1876-77~-Genl Dis 1076-77—Genl Dis

[Shri Samar Mukherjee] payment simultaneously so that the Now, I am citing arother example termination is not challenged on pro* cedural grounds” where when these workers were served with termination notices, some work- The court gave judgement m favour ers went to the court and the court of the casual labourers Instead of passed orders I am quoting from a taking them back, the Railway Admi- secret circular issued by the South nistration issued secoud termination Eastern Railway after the orders of the court orders with payment of the back days till the issue of the second termination orders What does it show’ It shows, “The above-mentioned cases came that the Railway Admini34fation vin ud for consideration in the court of dictively have taken the decision not hon Justice A K Mukheriee on to take back those casual labourers 26th and 27th Septombei 1974 The This is because of the anti-working Railwav Advocate has since advised class and anti-people attitude of the that the lodgement lias oeen deliver- bureaucrats This would not help you ed on 7-10 1974 to improve industrial ann labour rela- The court has quashed the order tions m the Railways The court gave of termination m respect of the these workers protection hut jou did above cases on the ground that Dav- not take them back Because of the ment of amount m lieu of statutory order of the court the casual labour notice was not made simultaneously er<3 got some monev otherwise they with the notice of termination The were comple1el\ thrown out of jobs effect of High Court’s judgement ac without payment of evpn a single pie Cording to legal opinion is as under This m totality shows the attitude- (a> Fresh notice of termination in of the Government towuuls the down- cancellation of earlier one according trodden section of the people but if to Rule 149 RI should be issued ” we hear their speech's or read their speeches so much sympathy is expres- According to rules standard of living increases put, svsttm it is the fate that when produc h the Con Is no unemployment m China no un- stitution Nobody will be unemploy- emplovment m Soviet Russia China ed because it is enshrined in the fun- ha* the largest population Mv friend damental rights Everybody is en- Mr Kirtei is raiding this question titled to have a job He visited Chim I have heard from him personally He had been to Cluna SHRI S A KADER They are short in lP'if He tried to see a beggar m to man-power the «treet but unfortunately he could not see even a single beggar SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE There is no shortage of man-power in socia SHRI S A KADER It has no rele- list countries Automation results vance to what I have asked SBRI SAMAR MUKHERJSE Our no selection of Fireman "A**. This country is lull of beggars and the bon. was violated m Northern and North Member’s State has now taken steps Eastern Railways and there had been to dave away all the beggars from spontaneous protest against the Bonbay city because they are an eye- same.” sore to foreigners coming to Bombay

That does not mean that beggar ‘We were assured more tnan once problem has been solved that a channel of negotiation and communication would be provided to MR SPEAKER Let us come back us In August, 1975, when the lo Railways LRSGC was wound up, Shri Qureshi, Chairman of the Committee had an. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE I am nounced setting up a machinery to coming to that deal with our problem It has re- mained on paper and we have not Up till now there are 25 Railway been given any opportunity to present Trade Union employees m detention our problems and seek settlement under MISA through discussion ’

I have made representations to the It was announced m the meeting, Hallway Minister several times’ about that 1 es de<* Mail, Express -*nd Pas the repression m Chittenanjan sender trams 10 houis dutv would be implemented in goods tiain. also MR SPEAKER You should condu In S E Rly it was announced that de You have exhausted a our time 10 hours duty will bt implemented You have already1 taken *2 minutes in one section of each division This whereas time allowed is -iO minutes was a^din unilaterally withdrawn and the Loco Running Staff were SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJFE I forced to work for more than 14 want five minutes more hours at i stretch nnd letimes tven upto 60/70 hours ns in J mapore MR SPEAKFP ^ take others’ Division of Eastern Rai’v-ay Staff time in this wa\ who asked lor relief even after 2 } SHRI SAMAR MUKIIERJEE The hours ol dutv (Shri Pann*ilai Fire- mam purpose to keep tnem in deten- man C Fastern Railway Dim pore) arc hemp removed from se \ re ” tion under MXSA is to smash the trade union A Memorandum has been sub- mitted to the Prime Minister by the This is how improvement in indus- All India Loco Running Staff Associa- trial labour xelations is beeffected* tion They have mule certain serious I am citing ceitam examples allegations against the Railway Mmis try In 1973 there wn a Loco strike There have been mr merable There was some agreement which was cases where the provision of GR arrived at m 197 -t and according to and SR are being violated One such that agreement a Grievance Committee is running trains without Brake- was formed Government gave certum Van/Guard and/or sufficient t»rake assurances Their complaint is that power This has already caused those assurances ha\e not been kept many accidents and loss of many It was decided that there should be no precious lives There is provision direct recruitment of “Learning Road” without which trains should not run But the staff I am reading from the Memorandum are being forced to work without “For example it was decided tbat “Learning Road" Any one refusing there should be no direct recruit- to do so is being punished (Shri D D ment in the Loco Running Cadre and Mishra, Driver, Dongapostii) etc" I7 ? Eatkcay Budget, PHALGUNA 22, 1397 iSAKA) Railway Budget, 178 J076-77—(Jenl. D «. 1976-77—GtaU Di».

I* the name of «conomy measures, being spent. I have no time. I can pMOishmmts are being imposed lor show to you how in the name of break- oqnsumptian of extra ootl. ing trade unions and to disrupt the workmen huge sums are being spent. 41 As such there was a procedure These realities should be taken into of fixing up rations. All excess con- consideration and with new approach sumptions were to be explained. But the problems to be solved. Then only now there in no ryhme or reason :n relations of the management and the tfee punishments. About 11,000 railway workers would improve. Thank rupees have been recovered from the _ you. PF dues of Shri Praban Ram, Driver. Dinapur, E. R]y and he was retired PROF. NARAIN CHAND PRASHAR with Rs. 154/- as his PF deposits.” (Hamirpur): I rise to welcome the Another staff Shri Hari Routh has been Budget Estimates presented by hon. fined Rs. 11,000 and a sum of Rs. 450 Minister for Railways for the year is being deducted from his salary every 1976-77. month. There are many such cases in MR. SPEAKER: You may please NF Railway as a result of which many continue after lunch We adjourn for workers are facing starvation. But lunch to meet at 2 P.M. what pains me is that while such eco- nomy measures have been adopted 13 hrs. even by giving advertisements and writeups in the newspapers there is a Lok Sabha adfovrnrd for Lunch till perpetual dunnage of the national Fourteen of the Clock. e*cchequer hv way of grant of special duly and officiating eharpras The {situation m almost all loco sheds will The Lok Sabha rp~assemhlrd after show tome unnecessary expenditure on Lunch at three Minutes vast Fourteen this account which will amount to of the Clock. several lakhs of runees every month. This unnecessan* expenditure should (M r. Deputy-Spfaker in t h e Chair) be reduced to save the economy of the Railway! Concrete instances of Anara RAILWAY BUDGET, 1976-77 (S E. RIv) and Burdwan (E Rly) GENERAL DISCUSSION—conid. were furnished b} me to Shri Quroshi and these have not been given atten- PROF. NARAIN CHAND PRASHAR: tion to. All these things show that the Sir, I welcome the Budget presented health of 1he economy of the Railways to this House by the hon. Minister, Shri is not good as well as the industrial Kamlapati Tripathi for the year relations of which so much has been 1P76-77. told to us. Here, because of emer- gency the employees and workers are There are various reasons for this. deprived of their right to protest. All This is, for the first time, that the these things give a wrong impies.sion budget has been presented with a sur- of the averall situation. My point is plus in the last so many years. This that discontent is growing. Unless is in sharp contrast to the position you give attention to the grievances of that was prevailing earlier and hence, railwaymen and the employees who we agree with Shri Tripathi that the have to ii^-baige heavy duties, but Railways are emerging out of the simply in the name of emergency tunnel of deficits. pnforce discipline on these people, it will burst one day. Although if may In the vear 1974-75, the Railway not burst now because of emergency, Budget ended with a deficit of some <4ay it it bound to burst. Side by Rs. 113.82 crores, in the previous year, aide in the n«th* of scheme tor loyal that is. 1973-74, the deficit it was employees huge amount of money is Rs. 115.51 'Crorea. So, this year the ly g Railway Budget, Bkiktmj/f Budget,' ig o 18W-77^~t?enl Dis. 1978-77—O enl Dis. (Prof. .Narain Chand Prashar] allocations. Rs, 200 crores have been Railway Minister has done this com- sanctioned for underground railways in addition to Rs. 60 crores sanctioned mendable job o£ providing a surplus for the betterment of the railway com- budget with minimum increase in plexes in these cities. As compared to freights and that too in what are called this it is disappointing to note that ;the inessential commodities and that too total plan outlay this year lor the new beyond 5OQ kms. The budget thus pro- lines was Rs. 17.50 crores out of whipb vides new avenues for the railways to Rs, 13.55 crores for project oriehted progress and this is also the reason Jines and Rs. 3.95 crores for fourteen why the Opposition could not find developmental lines. Therefore, I want much to attack in the budget. to bring this point to the notice of tiie Planning Commission and the Sir, the railway budget to my mind Ministry of Finance that in the dyna- is an indicator to overall progress of mic decade we have not done muca the country so far as communication whereas we want to do better. We network of the country is concerned. want to have additional investment in As such, a proper appreciation of ttie new lines to create the infra structure railway budget cannot be made unless to fulfill the new hopes of the people. we take the whole country in view. It is in this sphere that the railway In this connection I would like to budget is rather not upto the mark and invite the attention of hon. Deputy we are a little bit disappointed because Minister for Railways to a very inte- whereas in the previous budgets there resting report compiled by the Public used to be always reference to the sanc- Accounts Committee of Parliament on tion and construction of new lines, the new lines which has come to the con- present budget simply gives a distant clusion—it is 171st report—that the hope that the Railway Minister will spreading of the railway network has approach the Planning Commission and not been uniform during the past 25 the "Finance Minister for more funds. years and it is important that this should be rectified now and the areas, Sir, we have been celebrating the regions and States of the country which dynamic decade and in the dynamic have so far been neglected should be decade on the basis of the publication given their due. in the Indian Railways by the Railway In this connectioin, I would refer to Board. I find that 1902 kms of route kilometrage was added to the Indian the speech made by Shri L. N. Mishra while presenting the Budget for railway system during the last 10 1973-74 in which he said: years. It comes to an average con- struction of 190 kms per y^ar. If we “ The calculus of gains and losses take the overall picture over a longer would be sent aside and priority for period then we find hat 6,800 kms. had the construction of new lines would been added in 24 years since. 1951 be fixed according to the require- which comes to an average of 283 kms ments of the regions concerned". counts of the Railway Board for the year 1974-75 suggests that during this I would like to know whether the year only 56 kms, of roote kilimetrage policy in regard to a new approach has been aded to the railway system of which was enunciated by Shri Mishra thg counthy. This is where we would has gone with him or it still continues like to be re-asseured by the Railway to dominate the thinking of the Rail- Minister when he replies to the debate. way Ministry. If it does continue +0 ■ Hie country is far flung. It is not only dominate the thinking of the Bailway the metropolitan cities that are to be Ministry, it must figure in its projec- looked alter. We could welcome any tions for the year 1976-77 and as SUGjb* . betterment of the system in the metro- we must see new railway Hues, a t; politan cities but let us compare the least one or two, in the Budget. I Ifci Railway Budget, PHALGtJKA 22, 1897 (SAHA*) Railway Budget, 182 1076-77—Genl. Dis. 1976-77 -Genl. Dis.

sure that this lacuna which has been various Funds with the Railways. haunting us in the last two decades There is a Railway Safety Fund. What will be rectified by the hon. Railway is it used for? II a flew line is cons- Minister in consultation with he Plan- tructed, it relieves congestion in that ning Commission, the Finance Ministry area. Therefore, some money can be and, if need be, with the Prime Minis- found from those areas. Similarly a ter also. The country requires a rail- total amount of Rs. 200 in the Fifth way network in the far-flung areas Plan lor all the metropolitan projects is also, especially in those area where not likely to be spent. la order to there is a commitment on behalf of the have a balanced development of the Government in the Parliament to the entire country, is it aot essential that people. some of the money that may be Saved on this should be utilised on lines in I wish to refer to one commitment backward areas? We do not want made by Shri L. N. Mishra on 13th these to be shelved or slowed down, August, 1974 when be assured this, but if the amount is unlikely to be House that a token amount of Rs. 5 spent in the whole period of five years* to 10 lakhs would be provided for an important railway line from Nangal to that money can be utilised for giving Talwara in Himachal Pradesh. A con- at least some start to lines in other dition was imposed upon the State Gov- areas. ernment, though it was not in a posi- I am very sure that the hon. Minis- tion to do much, that it must contri- ter always takes this into considera- bute the cost of the land. The Chief tion that when a railway line is in- Minister was pleased to give this un- augurated. it is either by a Central - dertaking I efore the line was inaugu- Cabinet Minister or the State Chief rated. Shri Mishra repealed this Minister. So invariably the prestige assurance in this very House on 9 of the Central Government, the pers- September 1974 when replying to the tige of the State Government, the com- debate on the Supplementary Demands mitment made to Parliament, all these, for Grants. On the strength of these things are involved atyd there cannot two statements and the assurance of be any going back on this. On top of the State Government, he went and this, such a responsible body as the inaugurated that line on 22nd Decem- Public Accounts Committee has sug- ber, 1974. The survey was not then gested that those lines which have complete. I may here point out that been inaugurated during the last five the Public Accounts Committee has years should not be given up o d noticed some cases where the urgency any score and should be taken up certificates were given and the railway as and when the funds are available lines were constructed before even the and they should be given priority, final location survey was completed. and they should not he given up— Why? Because urgent considerations that is the most imporant thing. were there, because matching offers The State Government is meeting were there, because State Governments the cost of land. Today the concerned wanted these lines to be con- rrtst of land for a certain section, structed. So in certain cases you can Nangal Dam—Asole section, is Rs. 52. waive the condition of completion of lakhs. If this is taken up after five final location survey and then start years, the cost may be much more and construction. I think this wap also a may be beyond the capacity of the case in which this could have been State Government to bear. That is done. Anyhow, now that the final why we have the spectacle of the West location survey has been completed, I Bengal Government backing out of its request the Railway Minister to include commitment to meet half the cost. As this in the Budget. years go by this is what will happen If there is no money, I can suggest and projects are. not taken up. Pro- wherefrora it can be found. There axe jects which are inaugurated, pro- -183 Railway Budget, MAMfiHf 12, 2$1# , . Rtttitpaiy. Study#, \ im~77—Gent Dus, 187fi*77-«(Jfl»?,. J}is,''.

[Prof. Narain Chand Parashar] e

Ufled to say that the railways were the city of funds, we have to take up the lifeline of the country, persons who railway lines that have been inaugu- sabotage that line should toe dealt with rated by the Prime Minister or the ex. severely. There may be one or two Railway Minister, Shri L. N. Misra cases which may be pending but on and see that they are completed. With the whole the industrial relations have these words I support the Railway impioved. What has happened Uler Budget. I would also request Shri the Emergency? Persons who tried to Tripathi to see to it that Justice paralyse the Indian railways and the is done not only to the existing Central Government, to paralyse the and approved projects but also* working of Indian Parliament and did those which are likely to come up and not want to allow Members of Parlia- which have already been inaugurated ment to attend the sessions of Parlia- because there zs a verv strong recom- ment, were deJeated in their efforts mendation from the Public Accounts severely. I congratulate Mr. Kamal.i- Committee in this regard and there is pathi Tripathi for toning up the rail- also a commitment made to this House way administration and for bringing for completing these projects. It is them out of the tunnel. also the desire of the Chief Ministers There are a few things to be done. of North-Western States, that is, Hima- For Himachal Pradesh I support a chal Pradesh and Punjab that the new small link from Kalka to Pramanu, an lines like NangaJ-Talwara railway line extension of one or two km; Jaffadhri- that, have already been inaugurate# Banta line which will ultimately feed should be completed first. T congratu- the industrial complex of paonta. X late the hon. Railway Minister, Shri also support the case of Mr. Buta Kamalapati Tripathi, once again tor Singh's State, a new survey which is having toned up the railways during being made for Punjab, Chandigarh- the period of Emergency and I hone he Rajpura as a link up. It is vital for will show better improvement in the the growth of Punja!». Punjab. Hima- yean? to come. The progress made*' chal Pradesh, Har>ana, Jammu and during the dynamic decade has been Kashmir are not economically separate quite satisfactory but we hope that States, they are economically interde- the present decade will be more dy- pend ent States. I suggest that all these namic than th© previous one. With case*, must be taken up and the com- these words, I support the Railway mitment made to Parliament must be Budget. honoured. The Kangra valley railway, SHRIMATI FARVATHI KRISHNAN the alternate alignment must be com- (Coimbatore): Mr. Deputv-Speaker, Sir, pleted early As regards Nangal- there is certainly nobud> who will not AMB-Talwara railway line, there welcome the absence of raise in rail not only a commitment to Parliament lares in the budget this ye^r, and te* but to the country as a whole Giani put it succinctly, last year, il was ex" Zail Singh and Dr. Parmar have also pectedtobe an election year and there- supported this line. Not only this The fore there was no increase m the pas- Congress President Shri Boronoh wrote senger taro. I think the passengers in « letter to the Railway Min-ster Pbri- this country should he vepy greatful mati Purabi Mukherjee who is the that Parliament had decided to put oflE General secretary, A.I C.C. and who the increase n the passenger fares by- was present on first day in that dis- another year. Sir, at the same time, trict m connection with the inaugura- I do not understand the complacency tion of the State Congress Camp also or the smugness of the Minister and1 supported it. Fifty members of Parlia- Mr Parashar, because while on the? ment from all over the country have face of it, it might be a surplus budget, supported the case of Nangal Talwara what does the speech of the Minister line. Hien we must decide that even if show? It shows that the financial the Railway Ministry is facing pau- position continue* to be pretty gloomy iS ; Railway Budget, M ARCH 12, 1976 Railway Budget, i88 1976-77— Ge»il. Dis. 1976-77—Ge,il. Dis.

[Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan] When we ask what has happened to ■and this brings me to the point that, this, they say “ Oh, we will have to go in spite of the varioug other eliorts V O finance, we will have to go to the that have been claimed to be made Planning Commission”. But they ao since the Emergency, the Railways are not go there themselves, they send their still going to be in the red. In spite of people in the Railway Board. God the recommendations of the Railway alone knows what they do and get Coiiiiention Committee of 1971 and there, because we in the South continue though the Tasls Force has leported to to remain jogging along in the metre- the Government what is Leing done gauge and having these bottlenecks about reviewing and reorganising the with the result that road transport is railway finances, we are still in the gradually pinching from the railways tunnel. May be the Minister sees the whatever is possible in terms of light through the tunnel. But certain- foreign. ly by going through his speech, there Therefore, what i want to say and is very little that one can discover as what the PAC has said is that the Rail- to what reorganisation has been done way Board, which is supposed to con- about the finances of the railways, sist of experts, had not till now been what is proposed to be done, v/hat is able to put the financial management the perspective that we have before of the railways on a scientific basis us. Because we have seen, time and nor is there any scientific and rational again, reports have been placed before procedure which they follow. The Parliament and the reports of Parlia- PAC has particularly drawn attention mentary Committees such a.= the Rail- to the fact that the railways nave been 'Way Convention Committee and the in a great hurry to introduce various Public Accounts Committee, are just prestigious trains like the Rajdhani So much of waste paper as far as the and they have not yet come forward moribund Railway Board is •jcncerned with a long-range perspective plan, that because, as I said last year itself, a tremendous amount of ad hocism is something more drastic has to be done continuing, etc. for changing the old face cf the rail- The budget, in spite of a few silver ways and bring about a new look. Just linings, continues to reflect the same new Ministers are not enough. ad hocism. TiU 1965-66 we have had surplus What has been done about the sub- budge Its anjj we are now steadil.y p.o- urban railways? You are losing heavi- ing down. Now we have got this so- ly on season tickets. We are not say- called surplus bud^at. But what is ing “Raise the fares’ . The Railway the net financial position’ It is the Board is never tired of telling us in same and at the same time we are how many countries the government is ■‘told about shortage of funds and reimbursing the railways for the social therefore the new lines that are! neces- burdens they bear. I want to ask, why sary for th'S) development of our lail is it that the Central and State Gov- ^network, the new lines that are neces- ernments cannot provide quarters -sary for the developmeint of our na- to the employees near their places "tional economy, have to be cut down of work or reimburse the railways 'till there are mini-lines and we are for the losses on account of these having a sort of mini-railway system social burdens? Why is it that developing in this country. big monopolistic concerns and For instance, one of the things that multinational corporations such as ■is holding up the development in the the Lockheed cannot provide quar- •Southern Railway— that is leading to ters to their employees near their lose in earnings—is that you have got places of work or reimburse the rail- a tremendous delay in transhipment ways for the tremendous loss incurred from metre-guage ferpai-gauge. year after year? ■ ' 189 Railway Budget, PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Railway Budget, 190 1976-77—Genl. Dis. 1976-77--Genl. Dis.

ME. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Lockheed that programme is that workers should to reimburse 'uie railways? be-4aken into participation in manage- ment. The railway authorities will SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN: again and again tell us, “Yes; we have I am saying that companies like that our usual railway unions whom we re- whose employees have to travel by cognise and love. We have periodical suburban railways On season tickets consultations with them.” One of the should make good the loss the railways examples once given to me in regard are incurring on those season tickets. to workers' participation in manage- THE d e p u t y m i n i s t e r IN THE ment is, the workers are associated MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI with the organising of boy scouts! BUTA SINGH): Do you want the rail- Even in the International Women’s ways to take money from Lockheeds? Decade, they have forgotten girl guidesl These are the footling little things we SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISHNAN; are told. Where was the participation, I am not at all saying you as m in- for instance in Bringing down the rate dividual should take money from of accidents; where is it in bringing Lockheeds. I have explained my sug- down ticketless travel? Have you done gestion and if that is accepted, in that any job analysis; have you taken the case, the railway’s losses could be workers into confidence in working out brought down by about Rs. 40 crores as to where and how economy mea- There are companies like Sharp Dohme, sures are possible? To-day, bonded Sandoz and other companies whose labour is there in the Railways; be- employees travel for work by subur- cause in many places, the railway offi- ban trains. So also Central Govern- cers use the employees “as their cooks, ment and State Government employe- malis, butlers or valets. Ask thr- rail- I suggest that such comnanie.q a n d way employees. They will teU you. the Central and State Governments Have you done anything to remove it? should reimburse the railways for this But the economy measure means re- loss. In their 195th report the PAG has moving one worker here and one said: worker there, while the top continues “ A long range perspective plan as it is. Retirfl-nent is being used as should be drawm up in place of what a stick to get rid of unwanted people appears to be an ad boc approach in the Railways, people w'ho havvement anv criticism. tbarefofe, you .•should also be laid down. The find this. In one place for instance(, ’ committee trust that our railways, a worker was retired compulsorily on realising that Rajdhani and similar the charge of absenteeism; a n d he has trains, while by no means unwel- been a b s e n t for only 3. days m that come, cater to a limited and privi- year. I can give you any number of leged section of the travelling pub- examples: but I think you would not lic, will leave no stone untuned rr ( to give all the exam- till a truly people-oriented service ples. So I have to do it with the, is made available to all.” Minister privately. In this year’s budget papers, there is -very little picture of any people- Such ridiculous things are happen- oriented service coming into being! ing. Uniforms are issued to railway The hon. Minister said that the 20- employees. Obviously, when you ■point programme is being vigorously make uniforms by the rule of thumb, impleHiented in the railways. I do "Mot they are all different thumbs: they are know, where that vigour is being bigger, smaller, longer or shorter. cKrected, because one of the points in And now suddenly, a notice is put j t e iteftoto# t, fttASttS IHt, (Shri**»ut how the ticketles> ti i\el the Rnlwav Board Thev were mis lers can be checked’ Now we ha\e bing So the\ immediately sent people been given sky-rocketing figure*, about to Cnlcutta to hu> the bearings When the amount that is collected fiom thev bought the bearings m Calcutta ticketless travellers How much of they found that the number* on the this is due to the resumption ot t a ins bearings were identical with those ol that had been stopped how nuch of it the bearings that were imported by is basic and what is the percentage the IC F So I bring it to the notice of improvement m checking ticketJess of the Ministry on the 6th September travel’ Ihese are the figu*c vhich I got a reply from h m on the 22nd we would like to have be-ause the November W 5 m the emersencv Railway Board is tremendously clever period mind you when everybody is at Higgling figures T am very ven, ter-iblv dynamic an 3 ven very quick diffident about taking the figmes whuh and so on What happens’ I am told thev hava given that the police is *eiA?d of +he matter and some workers h^/e been arresfetf For instance when I was looking pt and "we are awaiting the results” But the figure, on the review of accidents Wh*t the manarc/mpnt doing w h ^ on Government railways I found that under thoir verv r^se these imported in 1972-73, we were given the figure, ball bearing di«aon*wd* Is nfc offi- relating to the failure of engines as cial to be brought to bork lust because 8309 So We teU: that it wa, rot 1 ad the police has ooked its *o-e Wfo tf* It had not gone up very much But From the debate on Tam'l Nadu you In 1973*74 We were promptly given know what the police in Tamil Nadu It. 103 BaiiuHty Budget, FHALGUNA 22, MW i&AKA) Rattway Budget, 39* 1978-77—Genl. Dis. 107*-7f~^G«wL Df*. tfeed 1 say anything n w e? What Hailway Board does another thing? were your security officers doing? Stan the right-hand man of Shri Don’t you think it fit to take any action George Fernandez, who was arrested Against those security officers? Are under the MISA, was taken back to the officers in the Railway Board, in duty a& soon as the strike was called the railway administration, absolutely ofl, but here is another man who ha* sacred and above all oction, whereas, not been reinstated. Why this diff«'~ if it was an ordinary worker, he would rentiation, even though all court cases have been thrown out 011 the streets have alleged to have been withdrawn? without a chance to speak for himself or to fight for himself? May I tell the Minister that my court case continues? Every month I have In the ICF it is the AITUC Union to run up to Tis Hazari, and I am very which is the majority union. There- seriously thinking of writing another fore, they say that there is no recog- love letter to Panditji, Shri Qureshi nised union and they try to break and Shri Buta Singh to say “between down the union. Therefore, today the three of you, could you at least implead of having shop councils, list pay me my taxi fare to Tis Hazari and after list is being asked for, periodi- back? I do not mind going to Tis cally- In spite of the fact that there Hazari, but at least reimburse me.” is majority union, there is no shop Really, joking apart, this is a very council, because the railway adminis- serious matter. We are told that ex- tration want to pick and choose whom cept against those against whom they want. And they are picking and serious charges are there, all the rest choosing exactly those people who have will be reinstated, but it has not bee» already been proved as being enemies done. of the emergency and enemies of 1he 20-point programme. On the other hand, there is the case of a member of a Shakha of the RSS, Time and again we bring it to the a banned organisation, who was taken notice of the Minister, and time and back into service. I am not mention- again the Minister says '‘Oh! this is ing his name, because I stand for all very serious; I will look into it, Mrs. employees. If we have a proper sys- Krishnan” and then 1 get one of those tem of workers’ nanagement, a proper letters. Some flunkey writes the let- system of recognition within the rail- ter the Minister signs it and it comes ways. then we and the railways will to me. be able to guarantee the discipline and the loyalty of the railway workers. But This is what is happening about if a member associated with a Shakha victimisation also Ministers give assur- of the RSS is taken back and promot- ances on the floor of the House that ed, but not another worker who was those against whom there are no court associated with another trade union, cases, those who have not been con- is not that differentiation? Why is it victed by court w ll be taken back. that this kind of double standards are Yet. there is the cose of one of the adopted in the railways? Why is it members of the Action Committee, that the Railway Board is in a position the only member who belongs to the to flout every assurance that the Minis- AITUC Union who, according to the ter gives to us? Last year I pointed Minister, was to be reinstated—in fact, out to you many instances. 1 do not the Minister gave me the assurance have the time to repeat all those points. himself—and yet his petition has been rejected. Is this manner in which Then, take the manne** in which you deal with us, m this very churlish Parliament is treated. There is a manner that you say one thing and the Contract Labour Abolition Committee* 2753 LS—7 195 Railway Budget, MARCH 12, 1976 m e - n —Genl. Dis. Railway Budget, 196 1976-77— Genl. Dis. [Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan] Where are your railway workers fl statutory committee, set up by a re- being given accommodation? In solution of ParUament. That Com- Bokaro, in Bhilai, where there is no mittee, goes to Lucknow and visits the private building, wheire th ey hav^a to goods shed. A Senior Deputy Mecha- pay fantastic amounts as rent, where- nical Engineer there prevents them ever there are small places, are the railways not going to give quarters to from working and threatens to assault - t a member of the Committee. I com- their employees? Is this not a thing that is necessary for the development plained to the Minister. What hap- of your economy, for the more efficient pened? Not even a one-line acknow- working of the railways The Minis- ledgement. Is this a serious matter or not? ter has not told us anything about this in his speech. ^ You talk about the emergency. What His speech is beautiful, in very nice is there in the 20-point programme? It English, perfect language, Very pic- is meant for removing the inequalities turesque, it can even put one to sleep and economic imbalances that exist because it is a sort of lullaby, biit at today. And one of the things that we the same time, the reality is not there, have been demanding from the begin- and it is the reality that we have to ning is doing away with the contract face if we want to progress in this system. Parliament in its wisdom country. The railways need a com- thought of setting up this committee plete ovelrhaul. To begin with, these and passed a resolution for that pur- Railway Board people, the so-called pose. And a footling little DME has experts, are now trying to become the cheek to assault a member of that more and more experts, and are wait- Committee! Is he not showing thereby ing for these consultancy Projects contempt for Parliament itself? And abroad. What a lovely opportunity he continues in service. Not only does for them! I think they must be all he continue, but to the workers' who planning to go abroad as soon as the stand up to him, he says: “off with Budget is over. I am not talking you, the emergency is there, yoi.; are about the Ministers. The whole point retired.” And it is significant that is that the Ministers are helpless. This among those to whom he has g-iven is what we have been saying again and these retirement notices there is a suffi- again: reorganise the Railway Board cient number of Muslims also. It is which is misleading Parliament, mis- very significant that people who are leading the Ministers and leading the whole people of our country up the responsible today for promoting Sakhas garden path. of the RSS are also responsible for taking action under the emergency SHRI G. VISWANATHAN (Wandi- against those who belong to a minori- w ash): You have been saying this ty comm.unity. Is it iustice, I ask for decades. What has happened? you? Is this the kind of thing that should be allowed to continue? Hnw SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRISH- can the rafways ever improve, how NAN: When I say it again and again, can you t^et the real co-operation something sometimes impinges. Once of the workers? Or twice, something has happened. I am glad that the Minister has So, we hope that we have struggled thanked the railway workers for their for it. But I would plead that co-operation, but that co-cperation unless and until you take the has been in spite of the administra- workers into confidence, unless tion, in spite of all these pinpricks, all you have really a serious system these attacks, and not because th=y of workers’ participation in the are being given a fair deal. By no- m.anagement, which is there in all means. All the heart-burnings that other public sector concerns, includ- led tsJhe strike of 1974 are still there. ing all the registered unions in the 197 Railway Budget, PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Railway Budget, 198 1976-77—Genl. Dis. 1976-77—Genl. Dis. industry, unless you do that, you are But then they forget the other Rs. 500 not going to get any change in the or Rs. 2000 that they have earned railways, because all the workers have somewhere else and then bring up to got a right through their representa- Rs. 5000 or whati^,;er it is. The point tives to convey what they think is is this. Ad .hocism to v/hich the Pub- wrong and to convey their ideas for lic Accounts Comjnittee has drawn setting them right. attention they suddenly startea a new train here and a new train there—is not going to help. That is, the recom- Without a proper scientific job mendations of the Railway Conven- analysis you cannot achieve lasting tion Committee and the Public Ac- results and such a scientific job ana- counts Committee have to be taken lysis cannot take place unless and very seriously and have to be gone until you see that the co-operation into with a sense of urgency and of the workers is gathered in toto. emergency. We are talking in a period of emergency. But the railways have Lastly, on the question of new lines, to juggle up. They say that the sta- Mr. Parashar, as usual, wants all to tions are cleared; reservations are now go to the hill station every summer. more easily available. Passengers do So, he wants that hill stations should appreciate that the railways have im- bg brought into the general stream of proved in their services. Nobody can railway lines. I have no quarrel with deny that and the workers have also that. But, I think, it is time that we got a role in that. But is that enough? have before us a real perspective Is that part of your national economy. when, within the shortest possible That is something that should have time, New lines will be opened up, taken place a decade ago and the Rail- old lines may be overhauled, metre- way Board needed an emergency to do gauge will be converted into broad- it. Are they not ashamefl of them- gauge. The largest sufferer in all this selveis? Could thev not do it before has consistently been the Southern the emergency? Only after the emer- Railway, and in the Southern Railway gency that they able to do it. Why today we find more and more that the Was it not going on previously? Could they not bring it before? It is not various goods that have been moved only in emergency that I speak, I am are the goods that are being moved talking in terms of national progress, constantly by road. in telrms of national economy. If our industry is to loog up, if our industrial For instance, recently, a ne^v Tea progress is to be stepped up, it cannot Express has started from Mettuplayam be done unless and until the railway to Cochin. This is a fast passenger also change their whole outlook, train This train originally w^s the change their method of functioning train which used to serve the students and put up before the Parliament in and the workers who w’ere going to the shortest possible time! a really the Government Press. This is a^o on comprehensive scheme reorganising that line. But what happened when their finances on the side, reorga- it was turned into the Tea Express nising themselves on the other sidct, was that those small stop;; had been and at tho same time, giving us a cut out. The students and the Gov- perspective of what we can foresee ernment employees and others who for the railways in the coming j^ears. used it every day, who bad their sea- son tickets, are unable to use it. But the Tea Express keeps going empty up SHRI S. A. KADER (Bombay-Cen- and down. I think they have earned tral-South) : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, something like Rs. 3000. I do not Sir, I would like to begin my remarks know. I am not sure of the Railway by quoting the hon. Minister of Rail- Board’s figures, because they ways, Shri Kamlapati Tripathi, from say that they have earned Rs. 3000. his Budget Speech, on p. 13; $59.. :'MMLjeamtk-'■’ ' 200 ./:■■■■■■■ lm w-xtoa. m»: ■ ■ ■■ -

[Shri S. A, Kader] income has gone up. It is not because" “Declaration of the Emergency, of the increased activity of the rail- followed by the clarion call of the way lines but because of the increased Prime Minister’s 20-Point Economic fares and freights that have taken Programme, has generated a new place during all these years whieL wave of enthusiasm and sense of have been off-set by the increased cost dicipline amongst the railwaymen of running of the trains. What I feel in every sphere of their activity.” is that economy is to be effected from every point of view. Emergency can be taken more advantage of if all To a great extent, it is ti-ua. Also, economy measures are dealt with if any Department of the Government under a crash programme. has really taken Emergency seriously, I think, it is the Railways who has What are the losses to the Railways. done it add who has given a better There is the loss of Railways on the performance than any other Depart- running of uneconomic lines. It is ment of the Government of India. I quite a big loss. Even today, with call it a Department of the Govern- all the Emergency that exists, I do not ment of India because Emergency has know why the Ministry or the Minis- effected overhaul in all the Depart- ters concernqd do not take a definite ments concerned. But, at the same and firm decision that all uneconomic time, w>3 should not be led away to lines will be stopped. Of course, think as if everything has been those lines which oan be tried should achieved. be tried. For example, the Darjeel- ing line. That line, I think, can never bs macPa economically viable. The There are so many things that have Mid is running side by side. There yet to be done. If we have to exa- are so many lines like that. These c.an mine the Railway Budget, we should be conveniently done a wav with with- examine it from a certain point of out effecting the amrinities that are view. The Railways is an organisa- given to the public. The roads can tion which is a complete integrated be extended; more buses can be put national organisation and a life-line of by the Railways itself on the roads to the nation. You have to look at the see that all the facilities that are giver) Railways not from regional or provin- to the travelling public are not with- cial: or ftfom any other aspect but cnly drawn and that an alternative is pro- from the national aspect as to how the vided to the public. Every year, there Railways can serve the country as a i-. a loss of Rs- 15 crores on this line whole in which all the regions are aloney included. If you see the railways, they cross all the barriers of provinces and even the service Or the personnel SHRI K. GOPAL (Karur.V. Don’t in the service is an integrated nation vou think that some lines have got to in itself. Therefore, don’t look at the be maintained because it is a public Railways from the point of view of utility? You cannot run the railway regionalism. lines only on a commercial basis.

Now, if we see the budget perform- SHRI S. A. KADER: I entirely ance that has been given, the estima- agree. Where it is a public utility, ted income, since 1951-52, has risen where there is an economic feasibility from Rs. 200 crores to Rs. 1800 crores. and viability, those lines are to be It is really the expansion not of the maintained. If they come under this railway lines but of the fares and category, that must be looked into. freights from time to time. The ex- pansion of railway lines have been So, if a line is not economic, very few. But, at the same time, the should be done away with. a o i Railway Bridget, PHALOUNA 22, 1897 (SA K A ) Railway Budget, z 02 im -T l—Q^nt. Dts. 1876-77—G ent Dig. 'SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: I ferred «»ven before his due date of 'agree, provided it is not in a backward transfer. I raised this question bfjfore area. the Railway Board and they found that what I had said was correct; SHRI S. A. KADER; I would like and that officer was brought back. backward area to be developed, but I don’t know what action has while some say that if a railway line been taken against those who comes up, a backward area can be were responsible for his transfer, but developed, the. Railways say ‘let the a* least the officer was brought back. backward area be developed first so 1 am mentioning this to show that if that a line can come up’. tn stores purchase also tight security iff? *tt qir# v r r i measures and proper care are taken, we can save quite a number of crores f cror«es. T so thnt they are able to utilise the remember a case where an officer capacilv and they can diversify their came and said that so much soan was ororlucts and can also lock into the not necessary because th«* area to bo vnuous export markets which aro so covered was only this much, and l»e near to us. I am quite sure that, as cut down the purchase by 50 per cent. far as railway machinery is concerned, After some time, he was simply trans- both bogies and engines. South-Ei 303 Railway Budget, MABCH 12* 1976 HuilMajt Budfftt, a04. 1976-77—Genl. Dig. 1976-77—Genl. Dis. Asia, the Middle East and African fuel, coat of labour, inconvenience to countries are our customers because thc| public and so on? The time factor we can compete with any one in this is also involved. If the hon. Minister field. Now the whole thing is managed and the Railway Board look into this by the Railways who have to take matter, they will be able to effect a permission from the Planning Comrais lot of savings. ■ion—and there are so many other things alrr\ If there was an indepen- Now, I come to this great organi- dent, Corporation, they can have then sation, RDSO I had raised the ques- Own department for export. Certaml} tion thit the bogies of our trams, both I would agree that the Railways should F irt Class and Second Class, get heat- have the first priority on production ed in summer, more than the actual because their requirements must be heat outside—because of the steel met trom the production in these frame, there is no doubt about it-—and units. get colder than what it is outside in winter, l o that 1 was replied as usual that they were looking into the matter. I would, now, say a few words about Then one day I was told that the running of trains. Every year X say RDSO had suggested that the roofing something about running of trams. The of the bogie should be done with glass time giveo is more than what is fibre I was really happy that at last expected to ' e given to a running something was being done to mitigate tiam from one place to another, foi this hardship When I went to Peram- covering a particular distance. There our, 1 saw that the roofing was done is> a letter received from hon. Shri with fibre*’ln s So, I casually asked, Qureshi 111 ieptj to mi letter where he what thev thought would be the differ t»ays that only a cushion time of ten once in temperature They saul hardly ta fifteen m.nutes is given, to each train it would be one or two ccntigrade I I am greatful to the hon. Minister foi said, in that case whv we were spend- having circulated this ‘Improvement m ing lakhs of rupees on this. I wrote Passenger Train Services' On page 3, a letter to the Minister saving that it is said that “ 182 trams were speed- while at RDSO. I was told that the ed up by 15 minutes or more m their temperature would be reduced sub- time-table from 1-11-1975, out of these stantially, at Perambur they said that the following 21 trams have been it would make a difference of one or speeded up by an hour and more'’ two centigrades, which was the correct Here, they have said that one mail position. My hon friend, Shri train, Madras-M ang alore, has been Qureshi wrote me a letter on 24th speeded up by 220 minutes, another February and he says- train has been speeded up by 210 minutes; the Utkal Express has been "Please refer to your letter speeded up by 265 minutes. From In consonance with the discussions which cushion, from which pillow, during the RCC meeting wherein you these minutes have come’ My hon had made some observations in this friend from Bombay says about Front- matter ier Mail also Formerly, the train was taking only 2.1 hours. Now, aft«r As a matter of fact, I had raised this dieselisation and with better traction on the floor of the House long bade the tram becomes slower1 Now it takes in 1971. He further says: 24 hours to come and 25 hours to go Whst is the net result of all this? We .. We conducted a practical arc mnning about 2,500 passenger static test of two M. G. shells at th© traim *very day throughout the coun- Integeral Coach Factory, Perambur.” try, If each train loses one hour, the That means that RDSO had not con- total loss is 2V500 hoars per day. And ducted any experiment. They had what is the cos»t involved—cost of just suggested that flbreglass should be 30$ Railway Budget, PHALGITNA 22, 1897 (S A X A ) Railway Budget, 206 1970-77—Gent Dta. 1970-77—Genl Dts

used X want to know from the Mini- he has presented, but we should not ster, whether they had conducted any rest on our laurels, we should try test before recommending that fiber- hard and weed out the corruption and glass should be used If not why other things that are existing and Perambur factory was asked to do above all we should change the Rail this and Perambwr has now come out way Act so that the work of railways* that a difference of only one or two is ran led on smoothly and in a belte* degrees will be made wav

If vou go to the RDSO so manj SHRI BHAGWAT IHA AZAD claim* ire made l fail lo understand (Bhag^lpur) It is my rare privilege what they think of the people who to open my speech on the railway visits them Out claim was tl dt they budget with my heartiest congratula- had evolved the welding s%stem of tions to the Railway Minister for the railv, en s» and experimented that I sincere efforts that he has made in know and the Minister can look to bringing the biggest public undertak- the records of old GTP line of Bombay ing of this country out of the red that as back as 1940 the welding was Before adding any more praise I want done between Bombay and Poona to put the question how it has been dm mg that time I have travelled on done that line and seen the difference between the welded line and non- MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER Now the welded line And they claim that they brick-bats h ive done I therefore say that as f ir as RDSO is concerned there should SIIRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD No, he 1 complete enquiry as to whelhei Sir I am only trying to analyse how the imo mt of three or four crores of it has been done The Department is rupees 1hat we are spending is giving the same The Railway Board is the some benefit to the railways as a same Possibly the Members are also whole This s an applied reasearoh the same since the last year The Rail ways going about here and there for It is a slightly discordant note that promotions and doing things in their the anticipated surplus of Rs 23 crores. own way! You must keep strict control was landed into probable deficit of over these autonomous corporations Rs 63 crores. I put the Minister’s and companies. Please be kind enough speech in the other way where he has fo take note of that. This is my claimed the surplus With the increase request. of Rs. 7 crores on the receipt side. Rs. 23 crores anticipated surplus has Then, Panditji has hoped that the landed into deficit of Rs. 63 crores item of passenger traffic will go up by Railway Plan is not very big It is four per rent The "item of Coaching just a modest one. Over the Plan Traffic will go up bv 5 per cent. The estimate outlay of the current year*— originating freight traffic will go up Rs. 361 crores—we just find a marginal by as much as 12 per cent. They are increase of Rs. 32 crores which can .ill really commendable hopes. 1 must just help Railway Ministry for going sa\ I hope if these are implemented in for rolling stock, additional line properly we can get out of the trou- capacity, and nothing more and our bles. All possible efforts will have to demand for new lines, as Panditji has said, cannot be met. I would not call be made in this direction. This is the largest public sector undertaking in the budget growth-oriented or line- India and this must justify its exist- oriented more kilometry budget, be- ence bv giving better return on the cause the Plan is very modest with inva'stmebt^ which havp been put into just Rs .12 crores which will not give •t The revenue earned must com- anvthing which the peoole are demand- mensurate with the investment that ing—new lines, new trains and all has already been nut into it upto this that. very day, I mean, the Fourth Five-year Indebtedness will also go up to Plan. So. this return given_by the Rs. 492 crores by 1976-77. Therefore, Railways is not commensurating now 2r i Railway Budget, MARCH 12, 1976 RalUoay Budget, 21Z 1976-77—GenI Dig 1976-77—Gen? Dfs

£Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad] About the labour relations, what had been said is only one-sided Let but it should be made to commensurate us also keep in mind that the railway with the investment of public money is not only for the Railway Board, the which ha# gone into it For the money employers or the railway employees of the public put into it, there must numbering 14,40 000 but for the people, be a fair return This is what 1 would we have got the claim because we pay like to say here foi it and therefore lQt not the eternal fight perpetual strike lock out increase I really do not go by Mr Kader s m D A bo allowed as part of the public announcement on uneconomic lines In good Mmd that 68 lakhs passengers a backward area m a hilly aiea you m the country are travelling by the cannot expect much traffic It is not railway*? and let them sing Abu Ben having any big traffic like Bomb iy or Adhem maj his tribe increase’ we any other metropol tan citj where you alwi\s thmk of them Therefore I take all the money where you have would saj that the financial outlook all the banking where my deposits go, and the operational outlook for this from Santhal Parganas this monej goes year is quite good but it always de to Madras or Bombay or Calcutta And pends upon how much you want to you just cannot say that the line from implement Bhagalpur to Berari is uneconomic What is uneconomic Sir7 Let the sub- urban lines be stopped if it is un- With this I now come to the smaller economic Let that be done I don t but second part of my speech—the mind But here you must taice into most important comments—and tint is account the public utility point of view this To implement all these you There must be pioper administrative must ha\c a tood administration and functioning all round good administrative reforms m the Railways right from the Railway This Budget can (laim many mam Board When we asked for example fold achievements* The credibilities new railway line new trains small halt are more in regard to the Minister s stations—small vending contract al- manner of presenting them than the ways comes this dogged repl\ no no intrinsic soundness of the railway and no The small halt station we finance We are happy at the manner could get after a great fight We have m which the hon Minister ha*- pre- many halts according to the demand sented his Budget We are passing of the situation We always get the through a difficult stage no doubt reply ‘no no and no’ That too we got after four or five years Then why But there is no mention about should the Railway Board Members ticketless travel There had been a specialise only m ‘No’’ For God’s successful drive on this But I find sake sometimes you also say ‘yes’ like now that the heroes have come again the Railway Minister who says that it on the trams on the Eastern Railway should not be like that the train should for instance Your drive should not not be running late though sometimes slacken, these heroes who have disr the train goes like that appeared sometime ago have reap peared again Why don’t you say ‘Yes’ There- fore when we asked for a line from I hope with the emergency powers the Railway Minister—a double lme that you have they would not travel between Qiul and Baharwa on the back again' Take for example the eastern railways, this was long over- loading of wagons beyond the capacity due and this remained unfulfilled, That does not give you any revenue nothing has been done Thank you That would give you only unscrupul very much for the Gauhati Mail which ous officers and merchants! So, some now connects Delhi and Gauhati on the thing has got to be done eastern railways and covers it In the Jfaitoay Budget, PHALGUNA 2% 1897 {SAKA) Constta. (Arrntt.) 214 1970-77—Genl. Dis. Bill shortest possible time. Still much re- railways for the longest period will be mains to be done. Why cannot the given the chances, whereas the persons double line come out? I would say who have worked for three years in that we asked the late Shn L. N. the railways and many others have Mishra, for that railway line, lie been given a chance. You have not mentioned about Mandar-Kosi hill line given a chance for those who have to be extended to Baidyanath and worked for four years in the railways. Deoghar on the eastern part of the Many others have been given the country. Similarly we asked for a line chance but not this. I would like a from Pirpanti to Hansdiha. What hap- committee to be ‘iol up to enquire pened to that? I was told in the last into your policy for loyal workers’ meeting of the informal Consultative wards to And out as to who are the Committee for the Railways that sur- wards of the loyal workers who have vey was complete Please let us know been given the jobs. I think most of when you propose to do that. When we them are the relatives of the big offi- ask for « bie ihmtj v/e are told ‘No, cers who were not loyal. Let there no, it would cost Rs 60 cfftres for this be a committee of the House and I will project’. Now I will give you a typical prove this I have got dozens and example for a small station Ghogha— dozens of examples with me which I my constituency. Nobody cares to go followed with the Minister and they there and have a vending contract. Thc have not been given the job. passenger would like to have a cup of tea at that station 1 wrote to them Therefore, I would say your efforts Let the hon Member note this. I to keep the total personality can suc- wrote to Shri Quroshi on 2-8-73. I ceed only when you have proper ad- wan! to draw your kind attention to ministrative reforms. Your I lakh that I wrote to him again on 18-9-73 track kilometrage, your thousands and and then on 16-11 7.'! TTe replied to me thousands of locomotives and your bv saving tint because of the unsatis 68 lakhs passengers in the country can factory working of the existing vend- all succeed only when there is proper ing contra cl at Ghogha that contract administration in this big Rail Bhavan. had been terminated. Instructions had The officers in the Rail Bhavan should been issued in March 1974—abouf this not imprison in the big files the aspira-. I am sure tions of the people. Panditji, you have But, when you wrote the letter it heard us in the consultative committee. We appreciate that and uptil now we was m March 1976. Imagine, the in- feel it has been one way traffic only for structions were issued in March 1974; the officers to say ‘no1 and for us to for what’ For a small vending con- write. tract at Ghogha—not a bi# one. And. after two years, the Minister’s letter Before I conclude I thank Panditji under his signature came about this for the budget and the hope that it vending contract in the small Ghogha has inspired and assure you of our station. Where are the orders of the cooperation in future and for what you Minister regarding this’ I want to have done in the past. understand that. I cannot say beyond that. 1 have never seen such a person who has not implemented the Minister’s order for a small vending contract for 1550 hrs. two years. If this is not implemented CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT BILL God save the officer and the Minister. (Amendment of Part III)' 1 can give many other examples like that. I keep a file, an uptodate file, bv Shri Bhogendra Jha about the Railway Board about their MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we efficiency. I have also another case take up Private Members* business. about the casual labour. Your policy Bill to be introduced, Shri Yamuna is that those who have worked in the Prasad Mandal—absent. 315 C onm . (Arndt.) B ill MAKCH 12, Constw. {AmOt.y Bill 2 16

[Mr. Deputy-Speakerl FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the unity of the Now, we take up Shri Bhogendra Nation; Jha’s Bill further to amend the Con- stitution of India. IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twenty-sixth day of November SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA (Jainagar): 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT Sir I beg to move- AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION”. “That the Bill further to amend the Constitution of India be taken into consideration." So while we gave ourselves this Con- stitution, nowhere was it even by im- This is a Bill the contents of which plication mentioned that man, his have been expressed in the country ex- dignity and his rights will be put down tensively for the last six years. Dur- and property, particularly owned by ing the discussions in the Constituent those who do not earn it, who do not Assembly itself the contents were produce wealth, will dominate every thoroughly discussed, pros and cons aspect of our life So I mean to say considered while framing, enacting and lhat whichever article or clause of this amending the draft concerning Part Constitution goes against this Pre- III of the Constitution of India which amble, against the basic aspect of the deals with the Fundamental Rights Constitution, ought to have been de- which constitute the main democratic clajed ultra vires. But unfortunately, contents of our Republic. our learned judges of the High Courts and the Supreme Court on most oc' cabions thought otherwise and m con- We all know during our freedom sequence, we got interpretations in struggle the nation took a pledge for several judgments with regard to art complete independence from British 19. which has been very aptly describee! rule. Since our childhood we used the as the fundamental right article. Items pledge demanding equality—’ and (g) ‘to practise any to ensure that there was the demand profession, or to carry on an\ occupa- to overthrow the British colonial rule tion, trade or business’, have been While the Constitution was enacted the enlarged to never-ending limits mean- very life-blood of the Constitution was ing an \ thing and everything which an put in its Preamble and this has al- exploitative system and the class o£ ways to be remembered by all of us exploiters like to mean, to an extent while we discuss any part, chapter. whereby, for instance, when the price- Article or clause of this Constitution. page schedule was introduced and the The Preamble reads: advertisement space was slightlv limit- “WE, THE PEOPI.E OF INDIA, hav- ed, the Supreme Court gave the verdict ing solemnly resolved to constitute that it is an attack on fundamental India into a SOVEREIGN DEMOCRA- rights What is the result0 In view of TIC REPUBLIC and to secure to all its the interpretations and rulings given citizens- by the Supreme Court on these aspects ol fundamental rights, the result today JUSTICE, social, economic find j s that in our country money domi- political; nates, wealth dominates, everything else has been made subordinate to it. LIBERTY of thought. e\prpstion, We have got everv right of free ex- belief, faith and worship. pression, but one important media or the most important media, newspapers, EQUALITY o£ status and ot oppor- are owned by a few who have seldom tunity; and tfl promote mong them written an editorial who have seldom all; even gone through news-editing on a 2*7 Conttn. {Am#.) PSALGUNA # , j m iSAKA) Comtn. (Amdt.) 21& B ill B ill single occasion. So newspaper empires at all. A few may benefit from chari- have emerged which the late Pandit t> or grants but is it enough? Thus used to describe as educational opportunities are curtail- ‘chain newspapers'. Freedom of ex- ed and limited. It is to our shame that pression is almost gone and despite after so many years of independence the exercise of a slight restraint dur- we are unable to ensure this right to ing this emergency, we find that the all our citizens. right of these newspapers to indulge in snppressio veri, suggestion falsi, though limited during the emergency, Similarly, with regard to judiciary, has not yet been eliminated. So this Ju&l now 1 am not talking ot corrup- fundamental right of all of us, the tion. Suppose for a moment that there right of free expression, which has is aLsolutely no corruption in the coun- been enshrined m the Constitution, has try. it is impossible under the capita- been curbed and curtailed which we list system. Yet, suppose that eveley single judicial officer from the Sunreme have experienced throughout lile, in Court downwards is honest and that all that whenever thr> opinions of anyone the other staft working in the courts of us here in this House have clashed axe honest, even then justice in our with the interests of the newspaper country is on sale, openely. If my owners, they have not found any place house is burgled or if I am assaulted in those newspapers in our country. and if 1 have to go to a court, I have Similarly, it has been otir aim that fjr.st to puy stamp fee and then the everyone in the country should be edu- lawyers’ fee. Then every day certified cated and there is no discrimination in copics have to be obtained, from the education. But the biggest discrimi- lower court to the district court and nation has been committed and is still then to the High Court and then prevalent in that sphere also, I mean ftnully to the Supreme Court. I am economic discrimination. What is the not now talking of winning or losing condition here? Everyone can go to the case. Even if a client is on starva- school or rollege but there is a big tion diet, if ho has to approach the ‘but’. One day in the year, what is Courts, he will have to spend money. called Saraswati Day or Basant Pan- To our shame, under our Constitution chami Dpv . Saraswati is free. On justice is on open sale: Hor mal milega that day. every child can, if he so chhe anna. It is to our shame that it likes, worship her or enjoy her. is> like this in our democratic set-up On other days, if his parents are not But if I have property, through what- in a position to pay the requisite fees ever criminal methods I might have which are steadily increasing as years acquired it, I can get big jurists who go by, he will be expelled from the can tell the biggest lies and the presid- institution to which he or she belongs ing officers of lower courts would be In practice our schools and colleges, over>awed and terrified and they will the temples of learning, have become giv<» me any judgement. In some places, there are some individuals who prisoners where Saraswati Mata is im*. say: I have committed 12 murders and poisoned behind the four walls of secured acquittals m all those cases. wealth that one might have acquired They mean to convey that they have through illegal means such as smug- to be respected because a person has gling or bribery or blackmarket or usury. If a person has money, earned committed murders and got acquittal on the basis of wealth and money. through whatever means, his child, though it may not have been average That is a tragic situation in which we live. intellect, can get admission and educa- tion and then come to High Courts or administrative apparatus and dominate Similarly we guarantee freedom of our judiciary and administration. An conscience and religion. The biggest honest toiler in our country cannot smugglers and blackmarketeer sbuil

[Shri Bhogendra Jha] a discussion was raised by several persons like the learned person Mr. pandit to do puja on his behalf. B. N. Rao and Shri Jawaharlal Nehru Because he is a smuggler or blackmar. himself and others. But when this geteer, he has not himself got the time lone Communist Member, Mr. Somnath for worship and so some pandits must Lahiri had put this ciuestion, the reply worship on his behalf for which they was that when the rights of the indivi- will be paid. Big smugglers have be- dual and the rights of the society clash come Hajis, multiplied by dozens and what should be our stand. Some peo- hundreds. We know Ha.ii Mastan. I ple took the stand that individuals was talking to some persons, some should dominate over the society for doctors and they told me; whatever social good. The social rights should may be the case, he has helped hund- be subordinated to the right of the in- reds of people to become Hajis. Even dividuals. Some others said: No, the faith is on sale, on the basis of money society should have supremacy, society acquired through dubious and immoral should have domination over indivi- and illegal means. These are aspects duals. I think that was the discussion due to which what we preach and what on a wrong basis, on a wrong footing we practise have become almost con- and that was a futile discussion. If tradictory. There is a ocean of gap all the individuals are right, where is between our profession and practice, the society and if the society is right not because they do not mean it but where does the question of individuals ive may mean it. But this contradi- rights arise. So there is no question , ction is hindering our efforts towards of clash between the individual and the achieving whatever limited objectives society. Here the problem i^ that of the democratic socialist structure every individual of the society and the we have set before ourselves. So in society as a whole together have been such a situation even with regard to subordinated to wealth and money. the elections we find when we hear So, here is a clash between the indivi- that a particular candidate spent some duals and society on one side and crores of rupees, then we fear that wealth and property, mostly earned in democracy is not safe. Everyone can- undeserved manner, on the other. This not afford to spend unless he earns basic contradiction of our Constitu- money through illegal or immoral tion, this basic contradiction of our means. No farmer, no worker, no per- social order, this basic contradiction son belonging to the intelligentsia of our State system, administrative group, if he earns throughout his life, system, academic system, judicial can deam 'of becoming millionaire un- system, has to be resolved one way or less he or she resorts to usury, black- the other. marketing or bribery or something Sir, now, a stage has come when we else. And when he earns money with cannot dare avoid or neglect it any dubious methods he becomes respect- longer. Now, those who have got able in the society. A person knovm wealth and money have started realis- for his charity and other things can ing that this democracy, that this right own news-paper organisation, can of all to vote according to the choice manage temples, trusts and can pur- must be done away with. And that is chase some elected representatives, why during the last few years, we have can get them elected or get those in been making furious attack, furious as- opposition defeated, and some of them sault on the rights to get elected and do claim that they have got in their after getting elected demand comes for pockets some elected representatives the dissolution of the Assemblies, de- also. This is the society in which we mand comes for the dissolution of San- are living and because the interpreta- sads, etc. A demand came for the tions, the ruUngs given in favour of partyless system. Such demands were wealth against an individual, in favour raised in our own country. That was 'of money against human dignity, are not the demand of a few individuals or in their favour. On our Constitution, aafl Constn. (Amdt.) PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Constn. (Arndt.) 22a BfU Bill

persofiSTurned into lok nayaka by the resignation of legislators, for dissolu- monopoly press. That is because the tion of democratically elected legisla- monopoly class, the ex-prinees, the tures ... landlords, have come to realise that if everyone has got the right to vote, AN HON. MEMBER: What about de- any party or person seeking their votes fections in Gujarat today? will have to promise something, will have to say ‘Ganbi Uatno* and once S11RI BHOGENDRA JIIA: That will something is promised, it will have to continue as long as the power ol money be implemented at least partly if not is there. fully For the part which remains unimplemented, people will march and say “Fulfil your promise”. The sifa : 1 people’s march will Legin and a day f c o p w t t o k srnr will come when, as the learned Golwal- karji said, they will bo massacred with 1 1 t ^r^rr | f*P a kanta churi They are apprehensive 3RT «TT S3TT I I ^ «T^RT of this. That is why they have begun assaulting the democratic framework I i *3 sirr sprr prr | i of our structure. The masses, the real talent working in the fields, factories SHRI P M ME1HA (Bhavnagar.): and office?., have begun to realise that The process of deieclions was started unless the power of wealth is curbed, long ago. Today it has resulted in democracy cannot stand. So, this con- dei.pi tions in Gujarat and the govern- tradiction has to be resolved by us in in' I there has fallen. favour of the people, in favour of de- mocracy, m favour of rule by the peo- 11 IE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ple, against domination by a few peo- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS ple against domination by wealth over- (SIIR1 F. H MOHSIN). As, you all conscience and education. know, the Government oi Gujarat was deieated by two votes when the budget 15.54 hrs. was bein,t discussed, and the Speaker had adjourned the Assembly sine die. [SHRr TSHAQVE Sa mb h a l t in thp Chair] I uo not know the later developments— The treasury benches are saying that whether the Government has resigned they are yet discussing this aspect and and whether the Chief Minister has re- they are not in a position to introduces i-mnocl I am not awaio of it. This is such a Bill during this session. That the information I have. I am told by is whai is reported >n the papers But othcrb that he hat> also xesigned. But here is a Bill which I do not think thev thfA '.hould be the logical consequence. would like to oppose. Evon if n few of (Intcrrupi :otii > them do not like it, I do not thmk thev wi1! dare to oppose it in todav’s MR CHAIRMAN No discussion. climate. In sufh a situation this PHI should l>e accepted I request the hon. SHRI BJIOGENDRA JHA: My members to discuss this Bill along with friends wurl that the issues were irre- the amendments I have tabled, because levant now. Though for this debate it this Bill has had a chequered history is not veiv relevant, I wish to say that I first introduced it in 1967. In 1971 T simply because some Independents revised it. At that time when the Bill have crossed over, they have not be- was introduced, there was a certain come angles. But I think that the situation. Now we have a different Government which has fallen was not situation. So. I have given some a government in the interests of the amendments. I request the members people. That was an anti-people gov- to discuss the Bill and the amend- ernment, but the defectors must not ments. We have found that there be rewarded. (Interruptions). Any- "have been demands for the forcible 4 2$ Constn. (Arndt.) B ill MARCH 12, 1979 Conjrtn. (A m df) Bflt 224

[Shri Bhogendra Jha] high time that we amend our Constitu- tion and delete that part which is a w«y, I am not going to garland those curb on the fundamental rights of our defectors; and I wish the ruling party people and on a country like India will take a lessixm and not garland the with a population o f 608 million. defectors. (Interruption). There is an In this aspect, this draft Bill provides apprehension. You are a member of that even the political and economic the Committee on anti-defection; and rights should be inserted, along with I am also there; and I do not know other rights. They are not mentioned when it will be allowed to deliver the in articles 14 and 16. I will come to goods (Interruptions) Anyway, what this when the various clauses are dis- I had meant here was that even the cussed. But there is one clause which democratically-given verdicts of the should he excluded. They should not people are altered and changed in diffe- be jumbled together. As my amend- rent directions. Here the power of ment No. 3 narrates, when we talk of money had an important role to play. civil liberties there is one class which Things were changed not only through is against all the liberties we value, dicussions and argument. It may against all the rights we value, against sometimes help some people, and on all the freedoms we value. That class other occasions, some others. The rul- must be out in a different category, ing party always hopes that it will help and that category is: it. When they thought that the tide was against them, they took interests in bringing m this; otherwise they “any person who is arrested °r slept over it That is the tragedy detained under any law providing for (Interruptions). detention in connection with smug- gling, foreign exchange racketeering, usury and other economic offences, SHRI F. H MOHSIN- That is not or for attempting violent overthrow relevant. If you say this, I may have of the democratically elected govern- to give a reply. ment.”

SHRT BHOOFNDRA ,THA' It is not I am suggesting that the Constitution very relevant, but it is not irrelevant should provide tor it. We, the peop e either. (Interruptions) In such a situation, the time h;>s now come when of India, who have given the Constitu- the confrontation between the power of tion unto ourselves, we have to put the money and the power of the ballot, these people in a different category. between the power of the people and That class of people* the blood-suck- the power of the purse—which is there ers, should not be allowed tD mingle for the last few years—has to be tac- with the national stream of political kled. Many of our friends on that side, opinion in our country. did not realize it very early. Now, on 16th March. 1974, some people had a meeting with Frabhat Ranjan Sarkar, 16 hrs. alias Ananda Mui ti; and on 18th March, 1974, the carnage m Patna began. The I think sub-clause (£), as interpreted loot, arson and other things began; by the different courts, including the and it developed into a thing for which Supreme Court and High Courts, is a the U.S. imperialists and the West great hindrance to our democratic German imperialists are now found system. At the time when we gave responsible. They were gloating over ourselves this Constitution, we put it then; and they are now groaning and these lofty ideals. At that time the- complainting that our democracy has country was partitioned by the British been saved. In such a situation and the feudal rulers wanted to take when this confrontation is there, it is the country backwards. Some elements- 2*5 OAnwft.) P8ALC&WA22, 1 (SAKA) Ctmstn. (Amdt.) 2 2 6 ' mu Ifl* RSS, who became the stooges MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: In their hand*, perpetrated massacres. In that background, hundreds Qf na- “That the Bin further to aroenfl tives princes, who were British pup- the Constitution o f India be tftfeffn pets, who were declared free by the into consideration.” British, many of whom were dreaming of becoming sovereign rulers, in that SHRI M. C. DAGA (Pali); Sir, I background we gave ourselves this beg to move: Constitution. Now the tune has come “That the Bill be circulated for when we should do away with these the purpose of eliciting opinion nights. thereon by the last day o f the last In this situation in sub-clause (f) week of May, 1976.” "to acquire, hold and dispose of pro- perty” must be deleted. The words SHRI DASARATHA DEB (Tripura "to practise any profession or to carry East): I support this Bill, but with on any occupation" should remain. some reservations. But the words “trade or business” should go. This Bill seeks, among other things, to amend article 15(4) of the Constitu- tion. That clause reads: I am iully conscious of the fact that as long as the present social order, “Nothing in this article or in which is a capitalist order, we cannot clause (2) of article 29 shall prevent bi mg about any change, I have no the State from making any special illusions. Many ol us want to bring provision for the advancement of any in socialism. But the present stark socially and educationally backward reality is that we are living in a full- classes of citizens or for the Sche- fledgtfct capitalist order, with a capita- duled Castes and the Scheduled list judicial system. We are under no Tribes.” illusions about that, that their business or personal property will go away. And if we see article 29(2), it says: That is not what I am demanding. I am saying this should not be the iun- “No citizen shall be denied admis- damental right. These things can be sion into any educational institution > governed and regulated through other maintained by the State or receiving enactments. My submission is only aid out of State funds on grounds this, that they should not be included only of religion, race, caste, language in the fundamental rights. It should Or any of them.” not be misunderstood that I am de- manding the end of individual property The amendment wants to add the word “economically” in article 15(4), i.e., it for the present because 1 know that wants the article to cover economically our country has not progressed enough backward classes also. I do not know to go to that extent, but the fundamen- how it would fit in, when the clause is tal rights must be the fundamental specifically meant tor the protection rights of our people, not of those with of the scheduled castes and scheduled purses who dominate the people, not tribes and religious minorities. of the purses of those who have not earned them, who have not produced them but only cornered them through We have been fighting against tm- illegal, immoral and dubious means touchability and provided against it in and methods. the Constitution also. Certain rights are denied to the minorities by the high caste or majority communities. We With these words, I commend the want to protect those minorities. But, Bill to the House. if you put in the words “economically 2753 LS—8 327 Constn. (Am dfc) BUI MARCH 12, 1878 Constn, (A m dt.) BlU 228

[S h u Daaoratha Deb] M. C. DAGA: Be naay even backward classes", it will cover all belong to RSS. (Interruptions). sections of people belonging to all SHRI DASARATHA DEB; Whatever castes, creeds and communities. Unless it may be, Fbr holding political opini. the social order or set-up is changed, ons, nobody should be debarred, so far merely changing the Constitution will as employment in this country is con- not, 1 think, bring justice to the eco- cerned. nomically backward sections. Because this requires something else, not the AN HON. MEMBER: RSS does not particular provision of the Constitu- claim to be a political party. (Inter- tion. However, if you want to put it ruptions) . in the Constitution, I have no objec- tion at all. You may put it. But I SHRI DASARATHA DEB: By merely have no illusion about this that by put. holding political views Or expression, ting this word, the basic conditions of nobody should be debarred getting the economically backward people can employment in any department. If he be changed. And what the Mover of has committed an act which has crea- this Bill spoke—quite a lot on certain ted problems for our country or destor- philosophy^—ie correct, but it is not yed our sovereign entity, then it is a reflected in this amendment. different point. But now what is hap- pening? 1 know in my part of Tripura, He referred to certain people who after the first interview is ever, there made this—Anand Murthy. But by is police verification. They secretly making this, how can he be prevented, take all the informations. They first because we want more freedom, more ask whether the parents of a particular rights to be given to the people. boy belongs to any political party or the Communist Party or whether his AN HON. MEMBER: And curb the generation subscribes to the views of right to the wealth, property. the Ruling Party, If they found some- thing, then they...... (Interruptions). SHRI DASARATHA DEB: Yes, curb- ing the right towealth. That is why. I am not sure about it. However, I SHRI M. C. DAGA It is not in the am not against it also. Let it be very form. clear. SHRI DASARATHA DEB: It is not Then coming to Article 16, clause 2, m the form. This is the practice v. hich is taking place. In fact, it is not cor- after the word “religion”, the words '^political views” may be inserted I rect that a person who is holding poli- am fully in agreement with the Mover tical views should not be appointed. of this Bill, because we know that this Yes, he is appointed, he is also promot- Article 16 only provides safeguards ed. If a particular individual or an against the discrimination on the employee subscribes to the political ground of religion, race, caste, decent views of the Ruling Party, then he will place of birth, resident, etc. etc, but be welcome. So, here also, I support it does not give protection to the per- this amendment. son who holds different political views, so far as employment is concerned. But Mr. Bhagwat Jha Azad should Equally of opportunity in the m&tter also know that constitutionally or leg- o f public employment must be there, ally there is no bar on holding political irrespective of caste, creed and politi- opinions. But the actual practice is cs! opinions. like this. Suppose, you say that there * • » < *««> PHALGUKA 13, |WT U r n * .) 330

i s some practice in the institutions, ed to hold a meeting in a hall just to particularly in the Primary Schools express condolence on the death of and the Senior Basic Schools. These Premier Chou En-iLai. Suddenly, a children, generally, are not permitted notice was served by the Governor of by the heads of institutions to partici- West Bengal because there were appre- pate in any public meeting held by hensions that that may create some any 6ther Opposition party. But if disturbances, etc., and it said that some Minister visits the place and a public meeting should not be held. It public meeting is organised by the was prevented by the Governor's order. ruling party, these children are bro- Is it not an abuse or misuse of the ught by trucks, lorries and by so many powers given to the executive? On cars with garlands. They do not have the other hand, the Congress Ministers any objection to these children parti- are roaming about throughout the cipating in the public meetings held country and bolding meetings and ad- by their party leaders. dressing the people. But other politi- I know, when I was a Member re- cal parties are not even allowed to just presenting a particular constituency, stand in silence for a mi mite to ex- in 1956 I hflld a public meeting there. press condolence. That is also not One of my tribal relatives came and permitted. That is why this amend- attended my meeting. He actually ment has been brought up very rightly, came with me. He was discharged so that the executive cannot misuse from the school; he had to leave the that power. school. He was told, "You attended the Communist party meeting. So, 1 want to give you another example. you are unwanted here.” I was one of the founders of the Jana* That is why in a democratic system, siksha movement in Tripura State. It if we want to develop democracy, along was formed as early as 1955 and our with this, free expression of political aim was to improve the literacy of the views should also be protected. Here, tribal people. We organised it and, in it says, no citizen .shall on the ground one year, we established 484 primary only of religion, race, caste, sex, place schools, flouting the decision of the of birth or any of them be discriminat- Maharaja at that time—we were not ed against in respect of any employ in his good books. This is the 31st ment or office under the State My year of that tribal literacy movement hon. friend, Shri Bhogendra Jha, has and I applied to the Tripura Govern- correctly proposed to insert alter the ment for leave to hold a meeting be- word “religion’’, the words “political cause it was being held every year view”. I support it. on that particular day, but that meet- ing was not allowed. Then, where is Coming to article 19, in clause 2. he the right to hold a peaceful meeting proposes the deletion of clauses (2), without arms that is guaranteed under (3) and (4) and I support it. The Art 19 of the Constitution? That freedom of speech, the freedom of asso- right was taken away. Is that not ciation, the freedom ot forming unions misuse of power by the Executive? or associations, all these rights, are Mr. Jha rightly said that in Art. 22 a guaranteed under article 19 of the provision should he the?e that no per- Constitution. But by these clauses, son should be detained without any these rights can be taken away at any tribal and that is why T supported his time at the sweet will of the executive. amendment. Many times, the powers which have been given to the executive are abused or misused. Another thing is that the Executive, in many cases, is given protection. A very recent incident is that eight Even if a case is filed in respect of any ^political parties in West Bengal want- person who has been detained, they wwwii. i m m 2NR m a m %% ifcfo owt*.. {Amdt.y m i& t

[Shri Dasarath* DiafcfJ are quite clear, but they have been confused by him tyhefo he was expound- don't disclose the merits of the case ing the idea* behind this BiH, and don’t submit"reasons. That should not be there. They must submit all the charge-sheets and it should be Article 14 of the Constitution provid- open to the courts to go into the merits es for equality before law, and any of the case. When I was detained in law which is inconsistent with the 1968 under the Preventive Detention Fundamental Rights guaranteed under Act, I went to the Supreme Court. the Constitution or any law which What was the charge against me?- The denies equality before law or, in other charge was that I had incited people words, which discriminates between to burn houses; that was one of the one citizen and another, shall be void. charges. But the fact was that I had To that there is an exception, and that been ailing in the Agartala G. B. Hos- is, if any law is discriminatory in pital, having been admitted some 20 nature but seeks to make provisions days before the occurrence and I was for the advancement of socially and released from the hospital some 30 educationally backward classes, that days after the occurrence. I had been law shall not fall within the clutches In the G. B. Hospital undergoing an of article 14 or 15 and such a law operation; so where was the opportuni- shall be valid. Mr. Bhogendra Jha, ty for me to go to a place one hundred by his amendment to article 15, seeks miles away and in the people to burn Insertion of the words ‘economically houses? I wanted to produce my case backward”. I think, this is a very before the Supreme Court but the Hon. salutary and welcome provision, be- Judge said ‘Mr. Deb, we are not entitl- cause, if the Constitution provides for ed to go into the merits of the case a discriminatory law in the interest of and so it is irrelevant’. Then, 1 had socially and educationally backward tb suffer; I had to be inside the iail people, why should there not be a pro- for twelve months because the Execu- vision for makint* n similar type of tive had assumed extraordinary pow- law in favour of those who are econo- ers. They did not disclose the merits mically backward’ There* are persons of the case and the Courts are pre- in the Muslim community who belong vented from going into the merits of to the lowest strata of er jnomic group; case. That is why I suppoited this their position is sometimes worse than amendment. that of backward classes or even lhat of the members of Scheduled Castes SHRI B. R. SHUKLA (BahraiA): In and Tribes, but they have not been this country, there is a widespread given any benefit. Therefore my sub- feeling that the Constitution should be mission is that so far as this Amend- amended in many respects. The Con- ment is concerned, it is very welcome gress Party itself has constituted a and Government should dvr proper Committee consisting of a number of consideration to this part of the Bill. persons who are Members of this House. A discussion is going on in the The second is that he wants that no Supreme Court as to which of the pro- person should be held ineligible for visions of the Maintenance of Internal any employment on grounds of race, Security Act are constitutionally valid. religion, caste, creed and also on A number of times, hon. Members of grounds of ‘political views’ I am this House belonging to different Par- afraid, hf| will land himself and the ties have brought Bills seeking amcrd- persons of his thinking more in trouble ment to the Constitution. Mr. Bhot?e- by this. Perhaps, he has not ponder- ndra Jha has also introduced such a ed over the wide implication* of this Bill, which is really thought-provok- amendment What ’s the meaning of ing. The ideas contained in this Bill ‘political views’? You have the Com- m 3 Constn. (Arndt,) PHALG1XNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Constn. (Amdt.) n * m u m n * munist ideology, a person has the fas- and todispose of property should be a cist ideology, another person has the sacred right and it is the duty of the philosophy of guarded democracy. All Government to protect such right. The these are political views. My submis- property acquired illegally 0r by smug- sion is that, in this country, Mr. Bho gling or. by resorting to criminal acti- gendra Jha and his Party, by and vities can be confiscated and the right large, is committed to the philosophy to hold, acquire and dispose of pro- to which we are committed, namely, perty itself is subject to the reasonable that we want to establish an order restrictions which the Parliament can based on democratic socialism. There- place by enacting suitable law, and fore, the reactionary parties will take the Parliament has already passed a advantage of the situation. We do law to forfeit smugglers’ property. not want that persons having outmoded Therefore, he should not be afraid on ideology, having reactionary thinking, that account. should be entrenched In government offices. We know how .aany persons There is a political and economic overtone in the speech of Shri Bhogen- sharing this outmoded ideology are polluting and corruuiJng the Govern- dra Jha. He thinks that all root caus- es of evil in the society are in the ment and are putting hurdles in the property only. way of our march towards socialism. Therefore, this part of the Amendment should be withdrawn by him. Al- SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Mainly. though he will, uHimitely, withdraw SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: But those who the whole Bill. I appeal to him that do not have any property are greater this part of the Amendment is not menace in the country, because if they proper. do not have anything to fall back up- So far as the question of the seven on, they will go from door to door like political beggars. Only those people freedoms enshrined in article 10 is concerned, I have my own views on can have independent views in poli- them. Certainly, it was not proper to tics who have something of their own. include the right to property in the I, therefore, radically differ from Shri chapter of Fundamental Rights. That Bhogendra Jha that all evils in the has been the view of the Supreme society are to be traced only to pro- Court also In Keshvananda Bharati perty. Property must be earned, pro case and they said that the right to perty must be defended, property must property Is not a Fundamental Right, be properly utilised, though there though it has been included in that should be suitable restriction on the chapter and it is not the basic feature use of property. Therefore, my sub- of the Constitution. Nevertheless, in mission is that this Bill though in a the capitalist society or in the society scattered and isolated manrer is which is governed by mixed economy, thought-provoking it is mis-concaved I would say that it is rot only the big and it should he withdrawn by him. sharks that are going to acquire bene- fit of Article 19, but even the smaller SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE (Calcutta- persons having limited income are also North-East): Mr. Chairman, Sir, my hit. If two bighas of land of a person only intention in intervening in this is taken away by an executive fiction, debate is to request Government at he also needs protection Property is least to accept in principle the Bill hot something which should be looked which has been put forward by my up<5n with contempt. Property acquir- friend, Shri Bhogendra Jha. Person- ed honestly is notbH» but the fruit ally, I would not wen object, though of labour which an honest individual that would be unnecessarily time-con- has put forth. Therefore protection suming, if Government prefers to ao hold property, to acquire propertv cept my friend, Shri Daga’s amendbtnen' =35 C o M A B C H 12, W 9 Cont*. (Amm Bm ,3«

[Shri H. N. Mukerjee] make sure that nobody enters the ad- and send this lor circulation to elicit ministration who harbours what he Public opinion. I say so because, on considered to be subversive pnHffcal the highest authority in the country, deas. The task, however, cannot be we are assured that there ought to be accomplished in that kind ol routine a national debate on how the Constitu- technical manner. You cannot deal tion is going to be restructured, and with the political views of your people from that angle, the principles which by punitive, exclusive measures. After Shri Jha has adumberated should be a person enters Government adminis- extremely helpful. tration, there are ways and means of disciplining him and his conduct. Sir, I would not take much time, but There are rules and regulations in re- 1 would merely like to counter some of gard to how a government servant the arguments made by my Iriend, Shri should behave and they could be laid Shukla who just spoke. down and implemented properly. But you cannot put a blanket ban on peo- I feel that Shri Jha is entirely justi- ple with political views v/hich happen fied in introducing into Article 15, the for the time being to be disagreeable word ‘economically’. And I recall that to those who are in authority. If Gov- my Iriend, Mr. Dasaratha Deb did not ernment is at all efficient, then, alter, oppose the introduction ol this expres- selecting the right kind of people, irres- sion. Only he was doubtful about the pective of their doctrinnaire, political result of it, Actually, whatever the views, discipline their conduct 5n con- Constitution we have, merely the for- formity with what should be done mulation of the most unimpeachable when a person is a member of ,..lnciples by itsell never produces the the government administration it- results that we aim at. The results self. Therefore, this is very wrong have to be achieved by a collective, and Mr. Deb gave some instances national endeavour and not merely by to show how under the name of the formulation of certain ideas. So, political views people are being dis- il on Mr. Deb’s argument, we hesitate criminated againsti Constitutionally to make a formulation because the re- we should not have these discriminat- sults would not immediately lollow, ing provisions. If it becomes neces- tftgn our job would be gone and the sary in times of emergency to have 'an legislature would have nothing to do. emergency legislation, go ahead with it On the contrary, I think the introduc- and do whatever you like but do not tion of the word ‘economically’ stresses nut in~ the Constitution something the idea tKat sections ol our popula- which vou want to preserve as a mat- tion like the Scheduled Castes and ter of ideal. Scheduled Tribes or the religious mino- rities or whoever who is under a Then, take the question of right to handicapped, are handicapped basical- property, Mr. Shukla again confused ly on account of economic reasons fhe wole matter. There is no need to and .therefore, we want to redress the go into any detail with it. A very well- economic disadvantage of the over- known French oolitical nhilosopher re- whelming majority of our people. lated a slogan in the 19th century Prom that angle, the introduction even which was very popular that prooerty there of the word ‘economically’ is theft and we know how money is should give a certain colourisation to so tainted and the power of rtonev Is our entire Constitution. so terribly disastrous to the advance- ment of the economic interests of the Mr. Shukla objected to the introduc- overwhelming majority of our copula- tion of th<* expression *political views* tion because money talks and prevents Into Article 10 on the ground that Gov- other people falk. Only recently, in ♦fc® "pwsoapers we see from da* to dav 2 3 7 Cotutn. (Arndt.) PHALGUNA 22, 1897 (SAKA) Constn. (Arndt.) 23* Bill B ill how the Lockheed corporation buys up presented the whole matter in a cogeni political support in all countries, even manner. in your so-called democratic countries particularly and the power of big There may be other things whew money, the multi-national corporations, differences may arise. But there i their adjuncts in different countries no difficulty on the part of the Govern- their native allies—this sort of concen- ment to accept in principle the basi tration of power in the hands of pefcrple idea behind this Bill and I am east of property is the basic question, which Mr. Jha would act according to hi Is why ihere cannot be « fundamental own conscience and I think if Govern right to property. You can have your ment accepts the priniple, we can ge laws in regard to regulation of pro. back with the assurance that thi perty. Mr. Jha never said that he matter would contribute to the nation want« elimination of private property. wide debate on the re-structuring c our Constitution which I am sure Nobody wants it. No Communist, in the interest of Government als< no Marxist ever wants it. Marx him- That is why I say, I support this R* self said that the knell of capitalist solution and I wish Government ca private property is sounded. He said accept it. ‘capitalist private property’. Private property which is really and truly private is not a thing to whi?h Commu- w * wnn (trr^fV) : w ftR i nist or Socialist of any serioos descrip- Wtor fasHrcf 3 tion would object. It is only that tor JTUHfar HcRsr vr srpcr power to exploit the labour power of other people which comes because of sTnw ^ *frr i g^rlir ^ the possession of the property that has far fsrsr tor ^ w to be attacked and, therefore, our old friend who is now unfortunately no «rr, *srr fft r more—late Mohan Kumaramanglam— t o t i had argued cogently not only in court but also through certain publication* how lhe right to property should have no place and Mr. Shukla himself has Tift ^ f*F fsRft admitted that the Supreme Court had if w n t o fam arrSr i S rta tffcrarw opined that the right to property if w m % ftsr *rar f t *rfn should not be there in the Fundamental Rights and, therefore, Mr. Jha is com- 16 f t WT3 pletely right in saying that it should % i irrf%w let^fw ftvw «£• get out of the picture.

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smwdT gf i wt Rr t feT|*TTSf«rT ? 17 hrs. «rrTo^roTT?ro «Ft ^crtgrm- % i He will take some time. Then the Minister will take some time. Then SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: They Shri Bhogendra Jha has to reply, do not daim to be political parties. taking some more time. Calculating They are simply violent gangs. all this according to human estimates, it would look as if we need another «ft * j w * ¥ t^ t *

^rff^ «ft %t?t % sr% snurcrc jf i MR. CHAIRMAN: The time is ex- tended by li hours. Shri Daga. W^TCr If ^TT ^5TT g f c ^ *R! ^rt wtsnr tar fwr w f ^ SHRI M. C, DAGA: It says here: fp3**0, *pt % tar f*P*rr*nrr ‘'What the Constitution of India attempts to do in declaring the f k m t t w & i tarftsrrqmrt «ftr h rights of the people is to strike 8 balance between Individual liberty * 4 7 Conatn. {Arndt) Bill MARCH 12, 107$ Conatn. (Arndt.) BiU 34S

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SHRI DASARATHA DEB 1 will tell ■fsw ctteT anr snrTFT ^ 1 1 «rr^r «r him how the right has been cuitailed. ?mr v t ^ r r ^ ? rr I am running one social oi'gan lor the tribal people in my mother tongue, the ^rr^- lrf*FT w N Tripuri language. Because there is no

person in the Tripura Government who apr w 7! fe rr «rr, tor * r f ’T ?r> can censor the Tripuri language, my srr?nT fREPfft paper has been stopped. T want to 'develop my tribal language. But I 5r s ift s?rt*r ^ ^praer cannot do it because the Government ^ffft f t f^?T^T ¥ t **t*t T>TT frsrr, could not provide a censor to scruti- nise my writings. So it has been stop- fsr^ rr ^ srt »npr^ ’feft, ^r% fr # ped since the declaration of emergency. Is it not curtailment of freedom of tfr zr^V ^ft*T ?rFsr p rrn r •expression? TrTT ^— ft tor % f® TWt 'w *jsr v * ¥ pt t : ^nrnrfa- sft, |... t ir fa>sfr 5?r *rr% *3^ %sr 7$ *r % tor : *racT ^Rf ^ ’fifa r ift srrrr. ^ranrgrr ^ ^jnf ?prcRr ^ ^ t ^nrrr tor arwr? f?t son;, ?3*r * m ?n ?F R «PT m - ^ t t - Iff ^ T T ^ n f ...... ^rf^r 1 a jfr (AiHdt) P ttk L G tm A 22, 189? (SAKj4) Constn. (.4mdt.) 250 ^ Bill Biu

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sfa #’ 5(^rre?T wr w r 1 s w t SHRI BIREN DUTTA (Tripura West): Mr. Chairman, I was expecting apH^ft V fsmT f^Rfr Tfa ^ irom the Congress side t,ood support fusnr ?pt ^rsr ft, fawro for this Bill. They so loudly proclaim that they are f°r the down-trodden and TfTT ^ I 'Tffeft ^7T ^ WUfT that is why they formulated the 20- point programme for the uplift of poor *ft srre 3 fcw f®p ’Wt «r

[Shri Biren Dutta] ries near them perhaps in turmoil. ■ftod there is a world ol capitalism. You What I would like to say Is that the have yourself dedared that you are in Indian sub-continent, particularly the favour of socialism. What do you Indian, people and the stability which mean by socialism? In your party they should as a country and as a there were people who declared that democratic country portray and stand they were for capitalism and you have for and work for indeed, should work thrown them out of your party and m a buffer for preventing any kind of cleared the way towards socia- turmoiL As I have been expressing lism. But in all your speeches you very often, in South America, in the are opposing this Bill. Middle East small things flare-up in I am completely in agreement with small countries and they catch on in the Bill moved by the hon. Member, adjoining countries with the resjjjjft Shri Bhogendra Jha and I hope and that those very economically backward tfnst that there will be some people people suffer most. Sir, you cannot atleast in the Congress benches who at any moment look into the things will come forward and try to do the that are happening in tkis country iso- right thing which has not been done lated from all the countries around us. 80 long even alter declaring socialism If you do that, then what will happen in Avadi, But I do not know whether is that you will be living in a paradise the Speakers will be coming forward of your own and you will have no to speak and support this Bill. You necessity of External Affairs Mlrister. aT® speaking so much in the public You can then think that Indin is the meeting, but when a question of a Bill world. But I would say that we have like this comes before this House, you a place in this world and particularly become wary and you are thundering in Asia, whether some of our neigh- outside that you really like to bring bours like it or not We might say socialism, I remind those who are that we will not interfere in the inter- now defending the rights of the mono- nal affairs of other countries, but when polists and the, property owners that other countries interfere in o u t internal history will not forgive them for this affairs, it is our duty willy Ully to pro- sort of dual character declaring socia- tect ourselves against such interfe- lism and opposing capitalism but re- rence. Each country has the right to maining in the party which supports live its own way of lifp as it likes, monopolists and the propetty owners. but when we find that fur way of life So, I hope that there will be some is in danger, there is nothing wrong voice raised on the other side of this if We go a little bit into our shell io House in favour of this BUI. protect ourselves. SHRI NIMBALKAr (Kolhapur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, everyone has referred The present situation in the country to the Objects and Reasons of this and this Bill have definitely very close Bill. I think too much stress is placed connection. But we always think of on the fact that in India, internally we things as if we are the only people are doing things which have no conse- who are concerned. We do certain quence externally. If what is ?oitig on things as if no other country is allowed in the country today has become neces- to interfere in our affairs. That can- sary or it has been felt that it has be- not happen. We have to take into come necessary, then you cannot take consideration what is happening It out of the context of the fact that around us. Even Vinobha Bbave can w® have certain countries & artounding live as he lives because we allow him us and that the stability of the Govern- to live like that. So, we can live only ment of this country depends on help- as well or as badly as oUr neighbours ing those countries around us a™* allow us to live. I do not think even you do not let them as they were,— the members of the opposition will things get out of hand when the count- 3 5 a Constn. (Amdt.) PHALGUNA 22, 1807 (SAKA) Constn. (Arndt.) Bill Bill

[Shri Nimbalkar] m m vftiaMSJum: n a v * * m *» earning money frsm a job in a Western country, in a Europeaa country, auto* is that situation? That situation will magically the income-tax is deducted be there when any person who is an from his pay* So, there is no question Indian citizen, born in India, will We of one being a dodger. In those count- given certain things. Firstly, he should ries, if you provide the citizeog all get as good an education as anyone else their requirements, they say th*1 in the country. Just because one fami- having property is an onus on them. ly is rich, if children of that family They do not want to own property* will get a rich education and the child- So, you have to create a situation ren of another, but poor family would where people do not feel like owning get only a poor education, I don’t property, rather than bringing a ceiling agree). Commensurate with the edu- on property. After all, why should a cation of a person and his acumen, he person want to own property if his re- must be given a job. That should be quirements are satisfied. his birthright. In that job, he should get a remuneration. And taking it for What is the ceiling’ Thete are two granted that the prices are also kept ways of looking at it What is the stable by the government, 10 per cent extent of land which can be tilled by of his income should be enough for him one tractor? If it can till 150 acres to find a living place; 30 per cent to of land, then that should be the ceil- feed himself and his family, a further ing. Otherwise, what is the idea of 10 per cent for clothing; and from the producing tractors’ If you do not 50 per cent that is left over, he should want to go from the tractor point of contribute toward* the social ameni- view, then the ceiling on land should ties. What are those social amenities’ be zero Then you may say “what are Social amenity means that he should you talking’ There will be no produc- have an unemployment benefit Se- tion” I say that if we share every- condly, he must have free medical thin? including the land at our dis- treatment Thirdly he must have old posal. it will not come to even half age pension. Fourth he must be given an acre Therefore, we must create a provident fund If vou give all this— situation where a person dors not care not a promise I don’t want promises— for property does not need property to the pedple and if you give them If you create that situation, then 7ero really a right kind of education no- can be the ceiling body would want property I have lived in such a society. That is why The real way of looking at it is this. I sav this For 14 vears T have lived Suppose you say that 20 acres of land in West Germanv I don’t want any I* enough and that is the celling. I*t propTtv (Interntn1 ions') Before vou that be the ceiling But if somebody say that, vou have to cure yourself wants to own 40 acres of land, let him What is the point In saying, "I am own it but let him buy the other 20 sick; therefore, kill the doctor or the acres from the Government every 20 nurse?” I have enjoyed all those years Let him pay 5 per cent ad benefit*! If I can °njoy all of tbem. I valorem tax on whatever is the cost of don’t care to create a property Des- the land In this wav if a person pite the fact that I was earning much wants to produce, he will have to pro- —I did not want to say how mu<-h I duce much more than 5 per cent be- wa

With that money you can industrialise SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: With a the country. You are talking of giving full-fledged capitalist system In Ja^an, more jobs. Jobs can be created only they have got a very low land ceiling* by industrialisation. Now the situa- Does he mean to say that In Javan tiorT in our country is that 70 Der cent agriculture is poor? of our people are living in land and producing 100 million tonnes, whereas SHRI NIMBALKAR: I am consider- in America 4} per cent of the people ing India and certain economic theo- are living in land and producing 250 ries. i have not got the statistics as million tonnes. This imbalance of 70 to how much percentage is on agricul- per cent on land and 30 per cent in ture and how much on industry in cities must change. There must be a Japan, but an overwhelming majority situation where an overwhelming num- of the people in Japan must be work- ber will live in cities and thus indust- ing in industry whatever the celling. rialise the country, rather' than 70 per But our situation cannot he compared eent of the people live in land. In our with that of Japan. country an industrial worker produces H times more than an agricultural For instance, the population Of oar worker. This is not realised, because country per hectare Is less than that even If we are to produce 250 million of Sweden. There is no doubt need tonnes, by the time we reach it, the for controlling population, but the ease population of the agricultural commu- for it is placed before us by others It nity will be twice or thrice what it is a very distorted fashion. For Instance, today, and the production per head I tell you that every State of ours is will remain the same. not more populated, I mean per bee- tars, than Europe. The question is Today is the three-hundredth anni- that we have to organise our labour. versay of Adam Smith who wrote a We are planning not for in individual; book on the management of wealth. 1 we are planning too much for the so- do not remember its name. He said called society (Interruptions)' Actual- that from agriculture surplus must ly, we have to make an individual accrue and that must be used for strong. The more you make an industrialisation, so that the people individual strong, the more stron- ger vour country becomes, If who cannot get jobs in agriculture can you see the strength of a chain, get 1ob«? in industry. Right up to it is in its weekest link. It Is a 1900, the countries of the West deve- chain affair. The strength of our loped on this theory. society is in its weekest member. Therefore you must plan for an Indi- SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA- Bv ex- vidual That is what X said, what an ploiting three-fourth of the world. individual expect* from you11 What should be your goal for an individual? SHRI NIMBALKAR- That started I

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MR. CHAIRMAN; Now, it is 6 p.m. **t nami ffgr : tqrfo *n$*. You may continue on the next private ^ srTs^r I sfr *5*rr ^i^tt g 1 members’ day. We now adjourn and W ^ ^ ^ 1 reassemble on Monday, the 15th at sft JT$t $t xgj | to srts «*r$£ ?rr^ l l a.m. ^ 1 fST, 18 hrs. *swt 3*rn?r ^r

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