THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 16 APRIL 2021

MIXED VERSION HANSARD NO: 201 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms K. Kokoro Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP. Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT FRIDAY 16TH APRIL, 2021

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MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME...... 1-7

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 8-17

QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE...... 18-21

STATEMENT Appreciation of Teachers’ Contribution Amidst COVID-19 Challenges...... 22

MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT-DEFINITE MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Provision of COVID-19 Vaccine by Private Health Providers, Medical Aid Providers and Other Companies Motion...... 23-30

Promotion of Listing in the Botswana Stock Exchange by Foreign and Big Companies Based in Botswana Motion (Resumed Debate)...... 31-34

TABLING OF A PAPER Report of the 57th Meeting of the Public Accounts Committee for the 2017/2018 Accounts...... 22 Friday 16th April, 2021 MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME

Friday 16th April, 2021 Kgang e e tshwenyang, e ke batlang Minister a tsena tota mo go yone, ke gore, ke ka goreng go lebega in the park, THE ASSEMBLY met at 9:00 a.m. ditsela di tlhabologile thata on the South African side (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) gona le ka fa Botswana? Botswana re santse bona in the park go tsamaiwa mo ditseleng tse di motlhabatlhaba P R A Y E R S but kwa South Africa sengwe le sengwe se a tsamaya. A tlhalose gape gore park e tona ka fa kae, a ke ka fa * * * * ntlheng ya South Africa kana Botswana? MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Fela jaaka ke letse ke botsa maabane ka batho ba ba Honourable Members, can we switch on our videos, I ntshitsweng from the park, gongwe o ka feta fela ka eo want to check the quorum. Thank you very much. Good gore, kana go ntshitswe batho ba Botswana le ba South morning Honourable Members, let us start our business Africa ka nako eo. Ba South Africa ba ne ba neelwa today with Ministers’ Questions. lefelo le gompieno ba butseng the lodges tse di tonatona, MINISTERS’ QUESTION TIME e le maKhoi kana ke dirise lefoko le re le tlwaetseng ka kwano re re ke Basarwa, ba gone ka koo, I am sorry to use MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL this word, ke ne ke re ke batla le le siameng. Mme ka kwa RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM Botswana, ba garona maColoured ba le mo mathateng a a kanakana. Ke dilo dingwe tse ke batlang Minister a THEME: UPDATE ON THE BILATERAL tsena thata mo go tsone Mr Speaker. A tlhalosetse Ntlo e AGREEMENT BETWEEN BOTSWANA AND gore they benefit Batswana go le kae? Fa go ne go siame REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA (RSA) ON THE sentle, dikompone tsa Batswana, di ka bo di sa benefit KGALAGADI TRANSFRONTIER PARK (KTP) mo teng ga park eo? Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke tlaa dira Asked the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources follow-up fa go tlhokafala mongwame. Conservation and Tourism to update this Honourable HONOURABLE MEMBER: A wa re maColoured House on the bilateral agreement between Botswana and kana mabutshwana? Republic of South Africa on the Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park (KTP): HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

(i) when it was signed; HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)...

(ii) the size of the park in hectares in each country; MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM (iii) turnover since the date of agreement; (MS KERENG): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo (iv) how much Botswana has received to date; and tsa Palamente. A re reetsaneng tlhe bakaulengwe, kana re a itse gore go a tswalwa, jaanong o kare le tlaa re (v) how maintenance is done in the park (for example, disturb. roads and boreholes). (i) Mr Speaker, the bilateral agreement between MR S. J. BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): The Botswana and the Republic of South Africa on the question here Mr Speaker, e ne e le gore Minister a Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park (KTP) was signed by re tlhalosetse ka boripana ka kgang ya ditumalano tsa the two countries in April 1999. This agreement Afrika Borwa le Botswana tse di di kileng tsa diragala was for the establishment of the now Kgalagadi tshimologong ya ngwaga wa 2000, if I am not wrong is Transfrontier Park through an amalgamation or 2002 around May, tse di neng tsa saenwa ke boTautona the adjoining of the former Kgalagadi Gemsbok ba nako eo, Rraetsho Mogae le Rraetsho Mbeki. Kgang National Park ya kwa South Africa and the e e leng teng fela ke gore Minister a tlhalosetse Ntlo e Gemsbok National Park ka kwa Botswana. The gore ditumalano tseo sentlentle, di ne di tshwere eng? two countries’ former Presidents; former President Di busetsa Botswana go le kae? Ke Batswana ba le kae Festus Mogae and former President Thabo Mbeki, ba ba kgonneng to benefit kana Botswana benefited go le formally launched the KTP in May 2000. The kae mo ditumalanong tseo? bilateral agreement Mr Speaker was amended

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further in October 2010, to amend the institutional (v) The Member of Parliament has asked about frameworks for managing and controlling the the maintenance of roads; why the status of the operations of the park. roads is in this manner. Mr Speaker, each partner country is responsible for the maintenance of its (ii) In terms of the size Mr Speaker; the park currently own infrastructure within their side of the park, exists as two components, the Botswana and including roads and boreholes. South Africa the South African component respectively. The currently maintains the main road that runs Botswana side consists of an area of 28 400 between Two Rivers to Union’s End. The Botswana hectares, that is 75 per cent of the total area. Government has paid for connection of electricity The South African component is 9591 hectares. to the Botswana side, so that we can power the Therefore, as the Member of Parliament is camp by Two Rivers. The Department of Wildlife requesting to know, the larger size or portion of and National Parks is maintaining the boreholes on this park is on the Botswana side. the Botswana side and has installed solar systems (iii) In terms of benefit from the park Mr Speaker, to ensure adequate water provision to wildlife in since the inception of this park; 1999 to 2019, we the park. The Department of Wildlife and National have realised a turnover of P27,161,302. Parks is maintaining the boreholes and all of them are being installed to solar by end of the financial (iv) Mr Speaker, after the establishment of the park, year, according to the plan that has been approved. the park entry and vehicle fees were to be shared The department has also maintained 40 kilometres according to the agreement between the two of the predator fence. Let me stop here Mr Speaker, countries on a 50/50 basis. To date, this has not so that we can engage. I thank you Mr Speaker. transpired since Botswana was yet to complete MR BROOKS: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke go lebogele some internal processes that are required for dikarabo tseo Minister. Gape re iteboge nna le wena the enforcement of this agreement in terms of gore re tswa go upolola dilo tse di ntseng di saletse facilitating for the apportionment of the 50/50 kwa morago thata by coming up with this question, ka benefits in terms of the agreement. I wish to ditumalano tse di saleng di dirilwe. Ke go botse fela inform this Honourable House that we have Madam Minister gore besides the review e o e dirileng since ensured that all the requirements have been ka 2010 ya ditumalano, mme gone go ntse go diilwe met and communicated since February 2021 ke eng gore re se ka ra phutha (collect) madi ao? A ga through the Ministry of International Affairs and o lemoge gore gone moo go dirile gore gompieno go Cooperation to our counterparts in South Africa. bo go na le jaaka e kete Honourable Matsheka o wela This will trigger the implementation of obligations pursuant to Article 10 of the bilateral agreement. mo lefaufaung ka itsholelo ya lefatshe, ke sone se a Therefore, my ministry will be engaging with our akanyetsang gore re oketse lekgetho ka bokete jo bo counterparts in South Africa on the modalities kanakana? and logistical arrangements for sharing of the Why should we take so long Madam Minister to connect funds. Some of the internal processes that were motlakase kwa badirelapusong ba rona? A ditumalano to be addressed include; legal aspects gore a tseo di ne di sa ame gore gongwe go gokelwe dintlha melao ya rona e siame, e tsamaisiwa sentle, some tsotlhe at the same time? Kana it is just a matter of terata structures and the audits that were supposed to be e e fetang fa gare ga matlo a Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke re undertaken. The Ministry of International Affairs ke e wetse jalo gore Minister a tle a re tlhalosetse. Dilo is working with us in this regard. Re dumela gore tse dingwe tsotlhe o di tlhalositse tse ke neng ke di botsa we will start to get the 50 per cent shares from the le tse ke neng ke re ke a di mmotsa, o setse a tlhalositse side that is collected by South Africa. Mr Speaker, thata. Maikaelelo ke gore o ikaelela go ya go tsiboga it is important to note that the bulk of the tourists jang; bofefo jo bo kae, o solofetsa Ntlo e gore e tlaa re coming into the park, come from the South African mo nakong e e kae dilo tsotlhe tse a tshwanetseng to side and therefore, Botswana will benefit from submit, tse di tlaa dirang gore we should get our shares, increased revenue by getting this 50 per cent share o re solofetsa leng? Time frame is very important, I of the total revenue. believe in it.

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MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a leboga Ke tlaa supa gore re kgonne go bona madi a go reka Honourable Brooks. Ke boammaaruri rra, loeto le ke graders. Park nngwe le nngwe le yone KTP, e tlaabo neng ka le tsaya le wena kwa Kgalagadi, le nna ke go e na le graders di le five to maintain ditsela. Selo se se akgole gore o ne o bona go tshwanela gore o tle go tlile go tokafatsa seemo sa tsela se nna ke se iponetseng ntsaya o ye go mpontsha, o pateletsa tota gore ke bo ke go ralala KTP. So re tlaabo re sa tlhole re sokodisiwa ke ye go bona mme ke tswa go bona mme go supa gore re ditsela tseo. tsweletse e bile go tlaa diragala dilo tse di ntseng di eme ka lebaka. Mma ke simolole ka ya go re wa re re tlaa Re ne ra bua gape ka kgang ya boreholes, re supa gore simolola leng go bona share ya rona ya 50 per cent. Ke le fa re kile ra ntsha campsites re neela Batswana re re ka February fela jaana when we completed kana re fetsa tsayang le ye go dira dikgwebo tsa bojanala in this park, re bo re romela mekwalo e e supang gore dilo tsa rona di bangwe ba ne ba ikatlhola gore re ka se ke re kgone go siame di mo maemong a South Africa ba ka simololang dira dikgwebo tse ka ntlha ya gore metsi ke bothata. Go epa metsi kwa Kgaolong ya Kgalagadi jaaka gongwe re go lebelela gore bone fa ba dirile audits ka kwa side ka itse bagaetsho, go a tura, le one metsi a ga se gore ke ya bone, go bo go ka kgonagala gore dithulaganyo tsa metsi a a motlhofo go bonwa. Re bo re dira thulaganyo madi di diragale. Ke ka go solofetsa fela ka bophara gore mo lephateng la gore rona re le lephata re tlaa batla metsi mo ngwageng one o o simolotseng o, ke dumela gore ao, re a dupe, re bo re epa didiba, go bo go raya gore dituelo tseo di tlaa nna teng. Jaaka ke tlhalosa go ya ka yo o tlang go dira kgwebo ene, he or she will reticulate tumalano e, mafatshe ka bobedi lengwe le lengwe la one kana a goge metsi a a ise kwa a tlaabong a direla teng. le tshwanetse gore le tsamaise their internal processes, Re tsaya gore jaaka re le mo maikaelelong le maitlamo including yone e ya audits. Go tlaabo go raya gore South re itomile molomo wa tlase gore bojanala bo tlaa goroga Africa le yone e bo e feditse ka tsa yone ka koo, go bo kwa Kgalagadi, re thuse re le Puso fa re kgonang teng. go raya gore bommogo jaanong go a dumalanwa gore Ke tsaya gore ke dilo tse di tlaa re thusang. dithulaganyo di siame, madi a ka simolola go nna teng. Ga ke batle go tlhoka go rurifatsa gore ka lebelo le re Selo se sengwe se se botlhokwa tota se ke batlang go leng mo go lone le go ineela gore re tlhomamise gore wela ka sone ke gore fa o supa gore go nnile le ditiego, dilo tse di a diragala, re ka tlhoka gore ngwaga o e re fa o bo o supa gore o ne wa fefosa le lephata ka go supa o ya go fela re bo re supa gore re setse re phuthile mo e botswapelo, bonokopila, kgatlhegela le go kgathalela leng ga rona. matshelo a batho ba kgaolo ya gago rra. Ke supe gore ditirelo tsa Puso di tokafala fa re eme jaaka o eme O boditse gore tota go ntse go diiwa ke eng? Ke setse jalo motlotlegi. Ke supa gore tota go tlaa simolola go ke tlhalositse gore go raya gore audits di ntse di di diega diragala dilo tse dintsi. Fa o bua ka matshelo a batho mme gape se ke ntseng ke se begelwa ke bodiredi ke mo kgaolong a o neng o supa gore gongwe park e e ka gore tota dilo dingwe di ne di le bonya. Tse dingwe o tswa e sa ba solegele molemo mo go kalo, ke a amogela kare go idibetse fela fa o ka dirisa lefoko leo motlotlegi. gore ga go ise go wele kwa re batlang teng. A re lebeng Dikomiti tse di teng tse di tsamaisang tumalano e di se se Puso kana lephata le setseng le se dira. Fa ke ne ke matlhagatlhaga, di sena mafolofolo a a kalo; dilo di nna bua kwa Committee of Supply, re ne re supa projects tse di diega. Fa gongwe mo go reng jaanong tota ditsela le di setseng di simolotse kwa Kgalagadi, tsa bo Bokspits, bo metlakase le eng, le tsone budgets le gore gongwe Rappelspan, Vaalhoek and Struizendam (BORAVAST); le ditsompelo di sa lekane. Seo se botlhokwa thata fa charcoal. Re ne re simolodisa the Kgalagadi Heritage ke ka supa gore jaanong mme rona re dirile eng. O tlaa Trail, e re reng ka yone ditso, mafelo a matlotlo a tlholego a a ka dirisiwang bojanala go ka bo atolosa di gakologelwa gore mo leetong la rona le dipuisano tsa teng, di emetse fela gore batho ba kgone ba di neelwe ka rona le wena, re ne re bua thata ka bo metsi le ditsela. E thulaganyo e e maleba. Le yone khansele, plans tsa yone ne ya re go boa gone koo fa e sa le ngwaga o o simologa ka fa di emeng ka teng, ke gone mo go tlaa thusang. rra, ra bo re tlhoma lebelo la go bona gore ditsela di baakanngwa jang at the parks. E se park eo fela ya Go na le project e nngwe gape e e thusiwang ke ba Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park (KTP), le parks tsa rona United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ya tsa Central Kgalagadi Game Reserve (CKGR), Chobe the Dryland Project e e tlaabong e rulaganya tiriso ya National Park jalo mme re letleletswe tiriso ya madi, ra lefatshe gore temothuo and other economic activities bo ra nna le budget which was approved by you batlotlegi di ka direlwa kwa kae, jang mme thulaganyo e le yone go kgona gore re dire ditirelo ka go farologana. e, le tsa bojanala kana di tlaabo di akareditswe mo

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teng. Kgang ya me ke gore lephata la me le lomaganye yo ke yo mogologolo. Le ntse le tlhalosa le lebogana, mananeo a rona le a mangwe a Puso a a thusiwang ke Honourable Brooks a itebogela go bo a ne a tsosolosa bone bo UNDP gore batho ba kwa Kgalagadi ba kgone kgang e, le wena o itebogela go taboga. Jaanong ke re go tshela. O gakologelwa gore fa re le kwa Khuis, re a ga le bone gore gone mo fela ke go supa weakness bua ka gore re tlile go thusana jang le morafe wa Khuis on the part of the ruling party, gore fa dilo di dirilwe di go dira ditirelo; matlotlo a a kanakana a a ntseng a sa dumalanwe, go tswa fela mo go reng ke mang yo o foo, dirisiwa. Re mo lebelong mme ke go lebogele gore o fa a tsamaya motho yoo go raya gore o tsamaya ka file bo o tsere ketelelopele le kgatlhego e e kalokalo mo go ga go na se se diragalang? Ke a leboga. diragatseng dilo tse di ntseng di robetse. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo. MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Honourable Mmolotsi a ko re tlhomame mmogo, re lebelele kwa re MR MATHOOTHE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke ne tswang teng le kwa re yang teng re le Puso. O batla gore ke re gongwe ke botse gone gore mo dingwageng tse ke re dilo di ne di tsamaya botoka kana dilo di tsamaya 20 this agreement e ntse e le teng but without being botoka fa e le Tona mang, nnyaa rra ga go a nna jalo. enforced, shares tsa Botswana re ntse re di bona ka tsela Ditsamaiso tsa mananeo a Puso di na le gore ka nako e e ntseng jang? Ke ne ke re gone foo o tlhalose gore in nngwe e bo e le gore gongwe they are focused mo the past 20 years, re ne re phutha (collect) ka tsela e e dikgaolong dingwe, kana go sena budget, bokgoni kana ntseng jang. Thank you. bodiredi. The focus of development programmes rra will MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo. vary mo dinakong tse di farologaneng. Honourable Mathoothe, se ke neng ke se tlhalosa ke Mo nakong ya gompieno ke leng fano rra, ke supa gore kana shares tse re di kgaoganang 50/50 le South fela gore fa re bua ka transformation re a bo re bua ka Africa, ke tsa gate collections tse e leng gore after audits jaaka ke ne ke supa process ya teng, go tlaabo go bonwa kgang e, ya gore se se ntseng se diragala se diragetse, se gore South Africa e phuthile bokae, Botswana e phuthile kgonne fa kae. Ga re a re go ntse go sa diragale rra, ra re bokae; 50 per cent wa teng ke bo kae. A ke neng ke a re tokafatsa ditirelo gore maduo a nne a a botoka. This is bega ao ke a e leng gore rona we have collected ka kwa the transformation, ra re re atolosetsa ditlhabololo kwa di side ya Botswana. Go ya ka tumalano e, ya re re tlaabo ntseng di sa diragale sentle teng mo go lekaneng. Jaanong re kgaogana madi a go tsena kwa gates fa bajanala ba ga ke batle re remelela mo go reng mang o ne a dira jang, tsena in the park. Ditirelo tse dingwe tsa bojanala tse mang a se ka a reng. Kana go raya gore e tlaa re le nna ke South Africa e di dirang ka koo jaaka go na le dihotele, gatoga fa le bo le totometsa matlho mo go o o tlaabong re na le campsites ka kwano, go na le activities tse dintsi, a tla le sa tsene mo go reng mananeo a ditlhabologo one tsone ga re kgaogane. Tseo lefatshe lengwe le lengwe a ne a dirwa jang, a tsamaisiwa jang, a tokafadiwa jang. le tsaya revenue ya teng, ga se tse di tsenang kwa go Rra ke bua ka transformation, ke yone e re e emetseng kgaoganwang teng. That is how we have been benefiting fa gompieno, re se re bonang go na le diphatlha, re a ka gone go kgaogana ga madi. A 50/50 ke a gates mme a mangwe a ditirelo tse dingwe, lefatshe le a a itseela. Ke tsena, re thiba diphatlha, fa go leng bonya teng, re oketsa a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo. lebelo, fa go tlhokang bokgoni teng, re oketsa bokgoni. Fa go sa lomaganang teng, re a lomaganya. This is how MR MMOLOTSI: Thank you Mr Speaker. Tona, fa o we drive development. So o tsamaela kwa go reng o re lebelela gore kgang e e dumalanwe ka 2002 mme e bo e Puso ga e… kana wa rialo tota, wa re Puso go raya gore le gore lona mo ngwageng o wa 2021, that is when you ga e a tlhoafala, kana dingwaga tse di kanakana go ntse will be complying with the part ya rona mo Botswana, a go sa dirwe. Nnyaa rra, go siame go amogela gore dilo o bona Tona e le gore Goromente yo o productive mo re dingwe di ntse di le bonya bogolo jang mo lenaneong le. ka tshephang gore o ka ntsha Batswana mo mathateng a Re ntse gape re dumalana le gore bojanala totatota fela ba leng mo go one? Ke bua se ka lebaka la gore fa e le gore dilo tse di neng di tshwanetse to benefit Batswana ka kwa Kgalagadi bo ntse bo sa anama thata e bile bo for 20 years, ga di a ba solegela molemo mo digwageng sa tiya, ka ntlha ya gore re ne re santse re lebeletse mo tsone tseo mme e bo e le gore mo nakong ya gompieno re neng re go anya ka kwa Chobe, bo Okavango Delta. ke gone re tabogang ka gore kana gongwe Tona ke yo Gompieno fa re bua ka go atolosa bojanala re itebaganye mosha, a mme o bona gore system ya ga Goromente le policy e, ya rialo, atolosang, re a atolosa. Re dira jalo e tshwanetse e bereke ka gore yo ke Tona yo mosha, transformation Mr Speaker. Thank you.

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MR NKAWANA: Supplementary Mr Speaker. Tona ke gore re tsene mo go tsone. Jaanong bogakolodi jwa me utlwile a re lefatshe lengwe le lengwe le responsible for fela ke gore, ka temogo ya me, ga re a tla kwa workshop, maintenance of their infrastructure, that is on their side. re mo Palamenteng, ga re ka ke ra bolelelwa selo se le Jaanong ke re tsela e, e e leng gore gape ke molelwane, sengwe fela letsatsi lotlhe ke Minister a le mongwe fela. e e mo nokeng, e tsamaya e ralala park, e tsamaya fa Ga re mo workshop ya tourism. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. gare ga noka, fa gongwe e tsena on the Botswana side, fa gongwe e tsamaya on the South African side jalojalo. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O e tshwere sentle Motho o ka botsa gore in this case ke mang yo e leng comrade Motsamai, o e tshwere sentle! gore is responsible for the maintenance of this road? MR SPEAKER: Honourable Motsamai, bangwe Ya bobedi e bo e nna gore go kile ga nna le gore…ke ba tlaa dumalana le wena, ba bangwe ba tlaa gana, sa itse gore a go santse go ntse jalo, go kile ga nna le depending on how you look at it. Some things are being gore park entrance fees tsa Kgalagadi Transfrontier given really enough information, so they are happy. Of Park (KTP) di nne kwa tlase to compare le tsa the South course I agree with you that we cannot spend all the time African side, gore a go ntse go ntse jalo, di sa tshwane on one item. That will not be profitable. le parks tse dingwe tse di mo Botswana? Ke a go leboga HONOURABLE MEMBER: Last supplementary Minister. please Mr Speaker?

MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke tlhalositse MR SPEAKER: E tšhaile. kgantele gore tsela e e ralalang park ele mo molelwaneng e e tlang e tsena ka kwa, e pota ka kwa, ke yone e ke neng MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION ke supa gore it is maintenance by South Africa. Mme fa re lebeletse ditumalano, ke tlaa senka sentle gore a e tlaa THEME: EXPANSION OF PRE-PRIMARY nna selo sa sennelaruri kana e supa gore le rona nako SCHOOLS nngwe re bo re tsena mo go reng e nne maintained, but MR D. SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): Ke a go mo nakong ya gompieno it is maintained by lefatshe la leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Potso Afrika Borwa. Re sokola ka tsa rona tse dingwe tse di e ke e lebisitse Tona wa Thuto go tswa kwa moding, tsenang mo teng ga park. mme ke e e itebagantseng le dikole tsa bana ba ba Entry fees rra, ke setse ke kile ka bua le mogolwane yo nnyennyane tse re di bitsang re re preschool. Ke tsaya o neng a ntekodisa gore tsa rona di kwa tlase, sale di gore Tona o tlaa dumalana le nna gore kana thuto re e ntse di le kwa tlase dingwaga tse di kanakana go na le tsaya e le kgato e tona mo go feng Motswana dithata, ka kwa South Africa. Fees tsa bone di sa le di ntse di le empowerment. Jaanong fa o lebelela public schools kana kwa godimonyana, kana go raya gore ba hula maungo a dikole tsa Puso re saletse kwa morago mo go anamiseng a botokanyana ka gore ba lebeletse ditirelo tsa bone, le thuto ya bana ba ba nnyennyane. Le mo go leng teng, ke gore di tshwanetse go duelelwa madi a a botoka, e bo ba amogela gore jaanong Puso e a dumela gore preschool kgona gore ba tsenye madi a a botoka. Ke dumela gore e botlhokwa, mme mo go leng teng kwa dikoleng tsa jaaka re itse Rre Matsheka a kile a sekaseka tsone bo Puso mo Batswana ka bontsi ba beileng mo go gone fa park fees a lebeletse ditirelo tsa Puso jaana, re tlaabo re o go tshwantshanya le ga private ke mo o ka nnang wa ntse re lebeletse gore koketsegonyana e e dirilweng a re ke reception classes. Ka gore le private schools di na mme e ntse e lekana le ditirelo kana go ka nna le gore go le reception classes fa bana ba ba tlileng go bala one ka tlhodumelwa gape ga reng. Re ntse re lebeletse gore ngwaga o o tlang ba tsenelang teng. Preschools proper, tumalano yone e re tlama e reng. Mme fela go ntse jalo, jaaka re di itse tse di ikemetseng ka nosi, ga re di bone ditlhwatlhwa tsa rona di ntse di le kwa tlase. mo baneng ba batsadi ba bone ba sa kgoneng go ba duelela kwa go tse private. MR MOTSAMAI: On a point of procedure. Speaker ke a leboga, after a long struggle. Mr Speaker, ke ne ke Ke tsaya gore Tona gape o tlaa dumalana le wena gore re kana fa gongwe Minister o tsaya bo 50 minutes go le ene ka o santse a na le bana ba ba nnyennyane a ka araba potso e le nngwe fela, fa ke re ke lebelela dipotso se ka a ba isa kwa preschools tsa ga Goromente ka gore tse dintsintsi tse ke bona e le gore gongwe re a go felela ga se e e feletseng. Ba ikaelela go dira eng go anamisa re arabile dipotso tse pedi fela. Dipotso tsa bakaulengwe preschools? A nako ga e a goroga re lebeletse gore ba bangwe le tse dingwe tse di botlhokwa re sa kgona Goromente o tlhaelelwa ke madi, go letlelela Batswana

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ba ba ka itekang gore ba age preschools ka ditshenyegelo le fa bana ba itshidilang teng kana jungle gym equipment tsa bone, Puso then sponsors bana ba Batswana ka gore ga mmogo le matlo a borutelo le matlwana a boiteketso e tlaabo e sa senyegelwa go dira preschools, gore ba a a mo seemong sa go ka amogela bana ba dingwaga tse kgone go tsena preschools tse Batswana ba bangwe ba re buang ka ga tsone. ba nang le dithata tsa itsholelo ba di bonang kwa private schools? Ke yone potso ya me mo go Tona wa Thuto go Re na le dikole tse di iseng di simolodise lenaneo le tswa kwa Moding. Ke a leboga. jaaka ke sa tswa go bua. Fa dikole di iseng di simolodise lenaneo le, re na le thulaganyo le ba bangwe ba ba MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR ikemetseng ka nosi e ka Sekgoa re e bitsang re re play MOLAO): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke lebogele potso, groups tse di teng mo mafelong a selegae. Thulaganyo ke bo ke tlhalosa jaana gore, kana thuto e potlana re e e thusa go rutuntsha bana ba santse ba le bannye go e tshwaraganetse le ba ga rona ba lephata la ga Rre ba baakanyetsa go simolola dithuto tsa bone. Re ba Molale kana ba Dikgaolo le Tlhabololo ya tsa Magae. okisa ka madinyana. Ke madinyana a a seng kae mme Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, Puso e rile fa e ba thusa gore ba bo ba dira jalo day care centres le play tla ka lenaneo le le itsegeng ka Sekgoa gotwe Education groups mo mafelong a a farologaneng go balelwa le kwa and Training Sector Strategic Plan (ETSSP), ga nna Bokone Bophirima kana kwa North West. le tshwetso mo lenaneong leo gore Puso e simolodise thulaganyo e ya pre-primary mo dikoleng tse dipotlana Mo nakong ya gompieno ka ngwaga re dirisa madi a tsa Puso. Go boammaaruri gore ba ba ikemetseng ka a kanang ka P3, 500,000.00 go neela play groups kana nosi ba tswa kgakala ba ntse ba le mo mohameng o day care centres tse ke buang ka tsone go ba thusa go jaaka Mopalamente a sa tswa go tlhalosa. Re ntse re tlhokomela bana ba. Palo ya play groups tse e tsamaya tshwaragane jalo le ba garona ba Tsa Tlhabololo Selegae, fa go 24 mo nakong ya gompieno. Re ba neela madi a a re simolodisitse classes tsa pre-school mo mafelong fa gare ga P28, 000.00 le P51, 000.00 ka ngwaga. a a farologaneng mo dikoleng tse di farologaneng tsa Go oketsa foo Mr Speaker, re na le thulaganyo ya lefatshe la Botswana tse ka palo gompieno di tsamayang orientation mo dikoleng tse dingwe e e dirwang mo kwa go 613. Palogotlhe ya primary schools tse re nang le dikoleng tse di farologaneng fa bana ba Lekwalo la tsone lefatshe la Botswana ka kakaretso e tsamaya kwa Bosupa ba sena go nna ba tswa mo matlwaneng a go 725, mme mo nakong ya gompieno di le 613 di setse borutelo ba kwala ditlhatlhobo ba bo ba tswala, re lebile di simolodisitse pre-primary kwa mafelong ao. Di tsere bana ba dingwaga tse di fa gare ga ngwaga wa dingwaga bana ba ba palo e e ka nnang 25 640 ba ba mo dikoleng tse nne le tse tlhano go ba baakanyetsa ngwaga o o tse 630. Ka ngwaga o wa 2021, re ya go oketsa palo e ka latelang wa go simolola dithuto tsa bone tsa Standard 1. dikole tse dingwe di le 29 fa godimo ga 613 yo o leng Re a bo re dirisa classrooms tse di neng di dirisiwa ke bo teng gompieno. Maikaelelo ke gore ngwaga o o latelang mogoloabone, bogolo jang ba ba mo Standard 7; di a bo wa 2022 fa dithulaganyo tsotlhe tsa madi di ka re letla, di setse jaanong di sena ope yo o di dirisang ka nako eo. re tlaabo re feletsa lenaneo le mo dikoleng tsotlhe tse re E a bo e le go leka go rutuntsha bana go ba baakanyetsa nang natso tsa Puso mo lefatsheng la Botswana le gore go simolola sekole. Ke sengwe se re se dirang e le sa tsotlhe di simolodise dithuto tse. nakwana jaaka re ntse re atolosa lenaneo le.

Re ntse re dira thulaganyo ya moalo wa thuto Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, re tshwaragane le (curriculum) wa pre-primary o o saleng o dirilwe bagarona ba United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) ka 2014 o simolola ka barutabana ba ka nna 40 ba ba re dumalane le bone, ra ba fa kopo ya gore ba re thuse ka neng ba rutetswe tiro e. Mo nakong ya gompieno re fa re ka tshwaraganelang le ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi ka tlhatlositse dipalo tse, re ya kwa go 870 e le barutabana teng go atolosa thulaganyo ya pre-primary education mo ba ba ithutetseng dithuto tsa Early Childhood Care and lefatsheng la rona. E tlaa re mo ngwageng o wa madi wa Education e bile re ba thapile mo Lephateng la Thuto 2021/2022, ba UNICEF ba bo ba thapa mokanoki kana go tswa Moding. Tsotlhe tse di tlhokafalang go thusa consultant yo o tlaa tlang ka maano a a farologaneng gore bana ba ba bone thuto e e tsepameng kana learning a gore tsela go ka latelwa efe e e ka kgonang go materials le tsone di setse di gorositswe mo dikoleng tsa kgontsha Puso go atolosa lenaneo le, e tshwaragane le rona ka go farologana gore bana ba ba bo ba ka amogela ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi jaaka Mopalamente a ne a bua, thuto e go netame. Fa re tlaleletsa jaana, go na le gore kgotsa e le nngwe ya dikakanyo tsa gagwe. Re solofela godimo ga learning materials jaaka ke ne ke bua, go na gore e tlaa re ba UNICEF ba wetsa tshekatsheko e ya

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bone ba tlaa re neela moalo o o tlang o na le melangwana di teng, o ka raya motsadi yo o kwa dikgaolong kwa e e farologaneng ya gore tsela pedi go ka tsewa efe ka Mathangwane, Sebina kana Borolong a re ngwana wa seemo se e leng gore se ka nna ka Sekgoa mo go ka gago yo o two kana three years a beile mo Pusong go tweng sustainable gore Goromente a se sale morago a ya kwa sekoleng sa bana ba ba nnyennyane, o bona the tshwaragane le ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi. same quality or opportunities jaaka ngwana yo o mo toropong, kwa nna le ene re isang bana teng mo dikoleng Ke wetsa Mr Speaker gongwe ke tlhalose ka boripana tse di ikemetseng ka nosi? A mo go kwa magaeng o ka gore mo nakong ya gompieno re dirisa madi a a kanang go bitsa pre-school e e lekanyeng, kana go boammaaruri ka P240, 658,313.00 e le madi a a duelang barutabana gore bana ba ba tsenang dikole kwa magaeng ba sena le ba re ba bitsang re re teacher aids ba re ba thapileng. private pre-schools, ba simolola go salela kwa morago, E bile gape ke a a re thusang ka learning materials tse ba siiwa ke bana ba batsadi ba ba itsholetseng mo re di dirisang go ruta bana ba, ba palo ya bone jaaka ke dikgaolong tse di nang le pre-schools? A o a kgotsofala boletse ke simolola e leng 25 640. Bana ba le barutabana gore kwa kgaolong ya gago ya Shashe West, go lekane ba bone le tsotlhe tse ba di tlhokang di re lopa P240, mo go leng teng mo nakong ya gompieno? 658, 313.00 ka ngwaga. Motho fa a kgaoganya o ka re ngwana a le mongwefela ka ngwaga go raya gore o MR MOLAO: Mr Speaker, ke tlhalositse gore go na dirisa selekanyo sa P9, 386.00 gore re mo neele thuto e. le pharologanyo fa gare ga pre-school le pre-primary. Rona bana ba re ba tsayang in public schools, ke ba ba Mr Speaker, bagarona ba Local Government jaaka ke setseng dingwaga tsa bone di le four kana four and a bua gore ke bone ba ba re thusang ka infrastructure ya half go ya kwa godimo. Ga re tseye ba ba kwa tlase ba bana ba, go a supafala gore fa o balela dijo tse bana ba two years to three years, ba private schools mo nakong ba di fiwang le tsotlhe tse ba di tlhokang, le boneba ya gompieno ba a ba amogela. Ke yone pharologanyo dirisa madi a a kanang ka P111, 282, 594.00 e le madi e re nang le yone. Re tsaya bana ba dingwaga tse, ka a palo gotlhe a ba a dirisang go tlhokomela lenaneo le. gore ditshekatsheko tsa Education and Training Sector Jaanong fa gongwe re ka se ke gongwe ra fefoga ra re Strategic Plan (ETSSP) di ne di supa gore, ba fa re ka e tlaa re kamoso re bo re ka sponsor bana kwa bathong ba neela at least two years ya pre-primary, e tlaabo e ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi fela ka ponyo ya leitlho ka ba lekantshitse gore ba ka simolola dithuto tsa bone tsa gore fa o tsaya madi a ke sa tswang go a bua a o ka Standard 1 go ya kwa pele. bona gore ke madi a a leng mantsi fela thata go tlhoka gore re dire lenaneo le le tsepameng le re ka se keng Ke amogetse gore ditlhaelo di teng. Gone jaana ga re ra le simolodisa re bo re tloga gongwe re le emisa mo kgone go tsaya palo e re e tlhokang, bana ba bangwe ba tseleng ka go tlhaelelwa ke madi. Gone re lebogela gore salela kwa ntle, seo ke boammaaruri. Bana ba salela kwa ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi, ba tswa kgakala ba thusa ntle, ka gore dikole tse di teng di amogela palo e e rileng e mo mhameng o. Re a tlhaloganya gore ga se batsadi e tsamaelanang le classrooms tse ba nang le tsone. Gape botlhe ba ba kgonang go isa bana ba bone kwa go tse mo nakong ya gompieno, re santse re dira e le selekanyo di ikemetseng ka nosi. Maikaelelo a rona re le Puso ke sa ngwaga fela. Maikaelelo ke gore mo ngwageng o o gore, dikole tsa rona tsa public schools tsotlhe di kgone tlang fa re sena go nna re wetsa, e bo jaanong re atoloa go atolosa lenaneo le, go wela ka ngwaga wa 2022, e bo re dira dingwaga tse pedi. Ke a amogela gore go ka tswa dikole tsotlhe di kgona go tsaya bana ba. Ditlhaelo di go na le ditlhaelo, mme ditshekatsheko tsa boitseanape tlaa tsamaya di nna teng, mme ke dumela gore moalo o di supa gore fa ba filwe two years ya pre-primary, go a ke neng ke o bua o re thusanang le ba UNICEF, o tlaa bo go ba lekantse gore ba ka simolola dithuto tsa bone tla o re thusa go bona gore tsela e re ka e latelang go ya tsa Standard 1, ba setse ba na le kutlwisiso ya dithuto tse kwa pele e e bobebe, e e ka re berekelang botoka ke e e ba tlaabong ba di amogela. ntseng jang. Mma ke eme foo Mr Speaker, ke a leboga. Ke sone se ke reng, re kopile bagarona ba UNICEF ka re HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, I hope you dirisana le bone re sekaseke re tle ka maano le moalo wa will allow for a short follow-up. gore, ba private sector fa re ka kgona gore Goromente a ise bana ba selekanyetso se, go ka lopa bokae, ka gore MR SPEAKER: Yes, I have given you the floor. private entities fa gongwe go ya go nna bokete gore re MR SALESHANDO: Ke a leboga mongwame. Ke ba reye re re rona re ka le duela bokana fela, ka gore botse Tona gore, fa a bua mananeo otlhe a a teng a pre- bone they are private players, ba ka kgona go ipeela schools a go tsenya bana kwa classes tsa Standard 7 tse ditlhwatlhwa tsa bone. Go tlaa dirwa ditshekatsheko tse e

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tlaa reng fa di tla re tlaa tshwaragana le ba private sector go di tlhaloganya. Rona lenaneo la rona, le go dirilweng ka thulaganyo e re nang le yone ya sectorial meetings tse ditshekatsheko tse di tseneletseng ke baitseanape la re nang le tsone le ba Business Botswana mo mohameng ETSSP, le tsile le supa gore bana ba dingwaga tse ke di wa tsa thuto, go bona gore tsela e e bobebe e re ka e buang tsa four and a half go ya kwa godimo, fa ba filwe latelang ke e e ntseng jang. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. thuto ya dingwaga tse pedi ya pre-primary e tlaabo e lekane go ba kgontsha gore ba simolole dithuto tsa bone DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Le tsa Standard 1, ba sugegile ba itse kwa go iwang teng. wena Tona, o a ikutlwa fela le o bua gore o bua selo se o sa dumeleng mo go sone. Tona, o bona go siame gore Ke tlhalositse le mo go yone paragraph e motlotlegi a e jaaka re ntse jaana rotlhe, e bo bana ba rona ba simolola nopolang a bo a ema mo tseleng gore, mo dikoleng di le sekole ba le two and a half years or three years, jaaka re 613 bana ba pre-primary ba tsaya ngwaga, ga ba tseye tletse mo Palamenteng jaana mme bontsintsi jwa bana o six months, ba tsaya ngwaga. ya go ba simolodisa sekole ba le bo four even five years, o bo o tsamaya o dirisa mafoko a o itseng le wena gore Kwa e leng gore ga re ise re simolodise teng, go na le ga se boammaaruri? O a itse gore kgang eo buang ka gone go dira orientation jaaka a bua. E ke kamogelo ya yone ke orientation, ke reception class ya six weeks. gore koo, ga re ise re goroge teng, therefore orientation, Ntle ke go nopolele paragraph ya gago ya Committee of ga se sengwe se ke se buang ke sa se tlhaloganye kana Supply, Paragraph 17 ke a dumela. I quote Mr Speaker. ke sa se itse. Maikaelelo a rona ke gore e re ngwaga o o tlang wa 2022 go ya pele, e bo e le gore dikole tsotlhe MR SPEAKER: Yes. tsa rona tsa public schools, di simolotse lenaneo le le tletseng la pre-primary, le gompieno e leng ngwaga. DR GOBOTSWANG: “The six weeks programme’s Maikaelelo ke go e atolosa gore e nne dingwaga tse pedi. objective is to familiarise children with the learning Ke tlhalositse ka bo ka amogela gore gompieno re dira environment, before starting Standard 1 the following ngwaga fela kwa go setseng go simolotswe teng, mme year…” “To familiarise.” Minister ke tsaya gore o a itse, kana ga o itse gore thulaganyo eo e dirang e ga maikaelelo ke gore re tlhatlogele kwa dingwageng tse se pre-school? A o a itse? Fa e le gore o a itse, wa re pedi. Ga se sepe se re se lobileng e bile ga se sepe se re o simolodisa leng pre-school e bana ba simololang ka ka se lobang. bo two and a half years to three years? Fa e le gore o palelwa ke go simolodisa pre-school, ke eng ka gore Re thapile barutabana Mr Speaker, jaaka ke bua, ba ka pre-schools di teng tse di private, o sa tseye about P400 nna 870, ba re ba duelang P158,761,080 ka dikamogelo million yo o mo senyang kwa education re mo kopanya tsa bone. Re thapile bo Teacher A ba ka nna 623 ba re ba le wa ga Honourable Molale, close to half a billion wa duelang P56,658,480. Ke dumela gore bana ba fa re ne ya to sponsor bana kwa dikoleng tsa private rraetsho? re sa dira thulaganyo e, ba ka bo ba le mo seterateng go Ke eng go pala gore o dire jalo, ka gore you spend P500 sena kwa ba dirang teng. Ga ke dumele gore ke go senya million or half a billion mo tsamaisong e kwa bofelong madi fa re ba thapile ba dira tiro e re dumelang gore ba e sa go neeleng maduo. Ga gona bana ba pre-school e dira ka botswerere, ba oba lebogo mo thulaganyong ba ba alogang. Mr Minister, what happened to Early yone e. Kana Goromente ene o dira equity go dira gore, Childhood Education Policy? E kae? Ke a leboga Mr ga se mafelo otlhe a private schools di tlaa nna teng, Speaker. jaanong Goromente ene provides equity for mongwe le mongwe. Ke gone go leng mo maikarabelong a rona MR MOLAO: Mr Speaker, ke bua ke ikutlwa e bile ke gore re atolose lenaneo le la primary schools tsotlhe. Re itlhaloganya Honourable Gobotswang. Ka re, re setse tlaa tswelela re ntse re le oketsa jaaka ke sa tswa go bua re simolodisitse pre-primary e bana ba simololang ba Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga. le four and a half to five years. Ke farologantse gore, ga re mo thulaganyong ya go tsaya bana ba ba ngwaga QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER kgotsa dingwaga tse pedi kgotsa tharo, nnyaa eo ga se thulaganyo e re nang le yone re le Puso. Dilo tse di ELEPHANT QUOTAS FOR COMMUNITY pedi di bapile, mme di a farologana, ga se selo se le TRUSTS sengwefela. MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked Ke a itse gore batho re na le go tsaya fela gore fa gotwe the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources pre-primary it is synonymous with pre-school, nnyaa, ke Conservation and Tourism to brief this Honourable dilo tse pedi tse di farologanyeng tse re tshwanetseng House on progress regarding the awarding of elephant

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quotas to Community Trusts, in particular, Mababe, (iii) Mr Speaker, the quota for NG 41, Mababe Khwai, Sankoyo and Phuduhudu Community Trusts; Community Zokotsama Development Trust had and to state: 20 elephants and was sold for P5.3 million, while the quota for NG 49 Phuduhudu Community Trust (i) if all the trusts have identified hunting partners; if so, who are they; had 15 elephants at the value of P3.2 million. I thank you Mr. Speaker. (ii) when they are expected to have exhausted the quota; and MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Tanki Mr Speaker. Re lebogele karabo Honourable Minister. (iii) the number of elephants per quota and price of Honourable Minister, re lemoga gore ka ntata ya each quota per Trust. COVID, hunting season e ne ya kgaoga, mo go rayang MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL gore e e neng e tshwanelwa ke go dirwa last year, ke RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM gone e dirwang this year. Golo moo ka bogone fela go (MS KERENG): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mma ke re raya gore dipalo le tsone di ntse di a fokotsega. Fa o ne tlaatlaa ka bonako. o tshwanelwa ke go dira 20 last year le this year o bo (i) Mr Speaker, my ministry had allocated hunting o dira 20, dipalo di fokotsegile. A go na le maikaelelo quotas for the 2020 hunting season to community a gore gongwe ngwaga o o tlang, le tlaa oketsa quota trusts across the country. The quotas were allocated le lebile gore letseno le ne la se ka la nna jaaka le ne le in concession areas that had not been completely eletsa gore le ka nna, ka ntata ya gore season e nngwe e converted to photographic tourism. As you might ne ya kgaoga? Tanki Mr Speaker. be aware, the 2020 hunting quota could not be utilised due to the COVID-19 travel restrictions, MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ka go as most of the hunters are from abroad. Therefore, lemoga gore fa re ne re sutisetsa mo ngwageng o, go the 2020 hunting quota has been rolled over to be raya gore tota go ka nna le ditatlhegelo, communities utilised during the 2021 hunting season. Mababe tse di filweng quotas, di okeleditswe ka ditlou tse pedi Zokotsama Community Development Trust (of nngwe le nngwe ya tsone, go leka go thiba phatlha ya Mababe village) was allocated a hunting quota for tatlhegelo e e ka tswang e ka diragala ka gore ga ba a Concession Area NG 41. The Community Trust kgona go tsoma ka nako ya teng. Jaaka o supa le nna has identified African Field Sports as their partner ke supa, ke tsaya gore ke dilo tse di sekasekwang gore for utilisation of the quota. go ka kgonega eng gore fa go nnile le ditatlhegelo ba ka thusiwa ka tsela e e ntseng jang, go leka go fokotsa The Community of Phuduhudu was allocated a hunting bokete jwa go latlhegelwa. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. quota for Concession Area NG 49 and had identified a partner Nkwe Safaris, who was the preferred bidder. UPGRADING OF ROADS IN TATI WEST However, Nkwe Safaris has since indicated that they were withdrawing their offer and a new partner was MR S. N. MOABI (TATI WEST): asked the Minister being sought after. They just got another investor, who of Transport and Communications if Government has has offered to work with them and they have sealed a any plans to upgrade; the Sekakangwe to Zwenshambe, new agreement. Gambule and Gulubane to Sechele Road to bitumen standard. Mr Speaker, Khwai Community Trust was not allocated a hunting quota as their Concession Area MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND (NG 18) is entirely photographic and there are no areas COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank you where hunting can take place. Sankuyo Tshwaragano Mr Speaker. I thought this question had already been Community Trust was not allocated a hunting quota answered but let me proceed. Mr Speaker, my ministry as their concession areas NG 33 and NG 34 have has no plans to upgrade Sekakangwe to Zwenshambe, completely photographic operations and do not have Gambule and Gulubane to Sechele Road to bitumen opportunities for hunting. standard because these roads have not been included in the current National Development Plan (NDP) 11. I (ii) Mr Speaker, the hunting season for community thank you. quotas commenced on 6th April 2021 and ends in September 2021. Therefore, by the end of the MR MOABI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. hunting season, communities are expected to have Ke a go utlwa Tona ka fa o supang ka teng gore ga e utilised their entire quota. mo lenaneong. Fa o ka lebelela tsela ya Kalakamati,

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Sekakangwe, Mbalambi, Gungwe, Zwenshambe, ka di lebelele. Ka o kopa bone, ke na le tumelo ya gore 2000 e diretswe moalo. E rile e tsena fa Vukwi fale, o lebile gore ga go a atlhama thata. Ke go kopa jaana go ne go na le circle ya Gambule e tsena mo Gungwe, motlotlegi gore go ne go batla nna le wena re ntse fa moalo o le teng o dirilwe gore tsela e a dirwa. Ke a fatshe, re kopane, re lebeletse ka botlalo gore ke go fe makala e le gore fa e sale ka 2000 moalo o dirilwe, go dikarabo tse di tletseng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. dirisitswe madi a a kanakana, go bo go sena sepe se se buiwang. Ga ke itse gore mme o ka raya Batswana bale OUT-OF-COURT SETTLEMENT CASES ba ba dirisang tsela wa reng ka madi a a dirisitsweng go DR N. TSHABANG (NKANGE): asked the Minister dira moalo? Ga o bone go le botoka gongwe go tle go of Health and Wellness to update this Honourable House dirwe ya pavement ka gore ga gona madi a sekontere? on the number of cases settled by the ministry as out-of- Go bo go nna le tsela ya Gulubane Mr Speaker, re na le court settlement on medical negligence in the past five bo Tona ba le mmalwa ba ba ileng go lekodisa Batswana years and to state: ba ba nnang ka kwa, ba supa gore tsela e ya Gulubane/ (i) the amount spent so far; Mambo, Masingwaneng/Sechele e etla. 2013 go kile ga diragala Tona a ba lekodisa, 2014 fela jalojalo, mme (ii) which field of medicine attracted more of these gompieno go ntse go buiwa dikgang tsa gore ga di mo out-of-court settlements. lenaneong, mme batho ba kile ba solofetswa ditsela tse thata. Ga o bone go le botoka gore gongwe fa gare ga ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND Letsholathebe le Sechele, re tle re tsenye daily bridge? WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so Kana ga o bone go le botoka gongwe re santse re emetse much Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, out-of-court settlement jaaka o supa …(Interruptions)… Ke ne ke re gongwe cases have been a challenge in my ministry for quite o tlhalosetse Batswana ba ba dirisang tsela e ka gore some time and undeniably the Government has lost a ditsholofetso di nna di le teng, mme ga go nke go nna significant amount of money to this effect. le sepe se se itshupang gore go na le kwa re yang teng (i) However, since 2018, they have significantly gone Tona. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. down at the rate of slightly under 50 per cent, MR SEGOKGO: Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, as it shall be demonstrated in the next response ya ntlha e ne e le kgang e e buang ka moalo o o dirilweng below. The decrease in the number is as a result of mo tseleng ya Sekakangwe/Zwenshambe ka 2000. Mo implementation of Medico-legal Risk Management nakong e tota ke tshwanetse go bua gore ga ke itse Plan which has made provision for Medico-legal ka moalo o, mme legale ke tlaa ya go o latedisa. Mr Unit in the ministry to address the rising medico- Speaker, kana le fa o ne o dirilwe jalo, se se botlhokwa ke legal cases. In addition, the ministry is currently gore tsamaiso ya ditlhabololo yone e ntse e tsamaisiwa implementing the Incident Reporting Policy ke lenaneo. Jaanong gore e sa le 2000 e sa tsenngwe which allows all incidences to be investigated mo lenaneong, ke kgang e ke ka e latisisang. Ke batla hence identifying the root causes. Through these go bona gore a e kile ya rulaganyetswa kana ka tsela investigations, there are lessons learnt which then nngwe ya tlosiwa. Mr Speaker, ga ke na ape a ke ka a are used to avoid similar situation from recurring. tlatsang gore go ka bo go ne go diragetse eng. O ne a kopa gore it can paved, mo go rayang gore e ka dirwa (ii) My ministry has made out-of-court settlement for maintenance. Seo re tlaa se sekaseka gore a ke nngwe ya medico-legal negligence payment of a total of 32 tse maintenance wa teng o tlaa dirwang paving. Ga ke ka cases in the last five years. 2016 there were two ke ka mo fa karabo jaanong ka gore paving ga se selo se cases, the amount was P145, 000. 2017; five cases ke ka ke se arabang go se na tshekatsheko ya gore tsela e P1, 500, 207. 2018; 12 cases P5, 274, 610. 2019; mo seemong se se ntseng, e tlhoka gore e agiwe ka tsela eight cases P3, 219, 526.28. 2020; four cases P4, e ntseng jang. 480 000.00.

E nngwe o ne o bua ka tsela ya Gulubane-Sechele, mme (iii) This ...(inaudible)… of medicine in medico- o ne o kaya gore o kopa daily bridge. Ga ke tlhomamise legal settlements are commonly of obstetrics and daily bridge re raya bo tlola fa kae. Ke go solofetsa neonatal which accounted for 11 of the 32 cases gore ke ka bo tsenya ke itse sentle gore re dira the span presented above. Thank you Mr Speaker and thank of the bridge le dilo tse dintsi tse di tlhokang gore re you Honourable Member for the question.

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DR TSHABANG: Supplementary. Thank Minister. e e neng e bidiwa Botswana Ostrich Company, e e neng Issue ke gore operations ka bontsi o fitlhela go salela ya tsweledisa kgang ya teng. Matlhabelo a ka 2004, a dilo mo teng; scissors and all these things tse di felelang ile a bona European Status sa gore ba ka romela teng. di bolaya batho. O fitlhela go na le dikgang tsa the Ka 2009, matlhabelo a latlhegelwa ke status seo, a bo wrong prescriptions tse di dirwang ke batho ba letso la a tswalwa. Matlhabelo a, ke one a a bapileng le airport seChina mo dipateleng. Ke sa reye gore ... but in terms fa Mr Speaker. For the two years go bo go raya gore of language communication. Dilo tse di diragalang ka ga go nne ope teng a bo a senngwa (vandalise). Ka the wrong subscriptions le negligence e kanakana, wa re 2011, kompone e e ikemetseng ka nosi e bo e a hirisa go na le improvement mme ga o re supetse gore e bokete e e bidiwang gotwe Multi Species Abattoir Botswana jo bo kae? Go ntse go a tswelela gompieno jaana as we to provide the services tsa gore ba tlhabe bommantšhe speak kwa dikgaolong tsa rona. Batho ba ngongorega ka le dikgomo jalojalo. Gompieno go lebega gore a tlhaba the wrong prescriptions le operations tse di felelang di dikgomo mme fa bommantšhe ba nna teng, ba a ba tlhaba. ba bolaya. Thank you. Mathata a mmaraka wa bommantšhe a simologile fa e leng gore… Gakere ke tlhalositse gore ba ne ba rekisiwa MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Honourable ba tshela, go bo go tlisiwa a new pricing structure e leng Member. Ke supile jalo gore re amogela gore diphoso di gore the grading system e lebelela gore diphuka le letlalo dintsi thata, tse dingwe batho ba felela ba latlhegetswe la teng le ntse jang, jalojalo. Ga supafala gore ka gore ke botshelo. Re supile gore ke gone mo go neng ga bommantšhe ka bontsi ba ne ba tswa mo sekgweng, ba re pateletsa gore re tle ka this Incident Reporting ne ba sa tshele sentle. Jaanong o fitlhela letlalo la teng le Policy. O ne o boditse in the last five years, a re bona ngapegile, go bo go raya gore this grading system e isa go na le improvement; at least around 50 per cent mo madi kwa tlase. dikgannyeng tse di ntseng jaana. Implementation ya this Incident Reporting Policy e nna e thusa gore batho ba Ke gone fa e leng gore farmers di ne di simolola go nne very careful ka dikgang tse e leng gore are reported itemogela gore jaanong ditlhwatlhwa tsa bo mantšhe mo dipateleng tsa rona in general. Re amogela rraetsho di ile kwa tlase. Mathata a mangwe gape a e leng gore gore diphoso di teng jaaka re bua gore di diragala mo a teng mme re solofela gore re a baakanye ka policy operations ka bontsi thata. ya rona e re tlaa tlogang re e tlisa kwano Mr Speaker, ke kgang ya gore o tshwanetse go dira eng pele, se OSTRICH FARMING sengwe ke eng. Ka dikgang tse, bo mantšhe ba ne ba DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- tsewa mo sekgweng go bo go agiwa abattoir go sena RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Agricultural yone vision ya gore breeding ya teng e ntse jang; go Development and Food Security to update this tlaabo go direlwa breeding kwa kae and go thubelwa Honourable House on ostrich farming in general and in mae (hatching) kwa kae. Jaanong bona gore re dirile particular the multi-purpose abattoir (former Gaborone abattoir kana matlhabelo a 20,000 per annum re sa itse Ostrich Abattoir) and Sebele Ostrich Multiplication gore re na le bo mantšhe ba le kae e bile re sa itse gore re Unit. tlile go ba oketsa jang gore ba kgone gore mo ngwageng ba bo ba tlhabiwa ba le ene 20,000. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS E rile ka ngwaga wa…, Goromente a dira a breeding site MANAKE): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Good morning. kwa Dibete Ostrich Multiplication Unit (DOMU) e e Mr Speaker, karabo e ya ga Dr Gobotswang e telelenyana based kwa kgaolong ya ga Honourable Lesaso fa Dibete mme ke tlaa leka go e kgaola, gore e se ka ya nna telele fale. DOMU is an ostrich breeding farm mme le fa e ne jaaka ke bona e kwadilwe jaana. Mr Speaker, kgang e e ntse e le breeding farm jaana, go ne go sena a hatcher. ya bommantšhe e simolotse ka 1990, e le gore batho ba Go raya gore hatching was done from the private sector ne ba tsamaya mo sekgweng ba ba tshwara, ba bo ba kana bo Talana jalo le jalo mme go supafala gore the ba rekisa ba tshela ba ya kwa Europe koo. Go lebega industry e ile ya swa ka gore abattoir e ne e sa tlhole e e ne e le business e e nang le dipoelo tse di botoka. E nna le bo mantšhe ba ba lekaneng. Where breeding was rile ka ngwaga wa 2002, Goromente a tsaya tshwetso done go ne go sena gone kwa mae a teng a thubelwang ya gore a age matlhabelo a bommantšhe a a nang le teng, so dilo tse di tlile ka tlhatlologanyo e e leng gore capacity ya go tlhaba bommantšhe ba le 20 000 ka go ne go ka bo go simolotse yone hatchery and then go ngwaga. Matlhabelo a, a ne a tsamaisiwa ke kompone bo go tsena to the breeding ke gone jaanong go bo go

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tsena the abattoir. Di ile tsa tla go le bogole, e le selo le jalo gore ba simolole go tsena mo DOMU ba rue bo sengwe se re batlang gore se baakanya gore sentlesentle mantšhe ba kgone go tsaya botsipa jo e leng gore re le Goromente o tsena fa kae, Batswana bone ba tsena fa lephata re setse re na le jone. Ke gore jaaka ke setse kae, mmaraka o kwa kae jaaka le bona ka dikgomo ke buile, most of our research land kana properties jaana re batla matlhabelo a a rileng le ka dipodi jalo le kana infrastructure re batla gore batho ba simolole go jalo. Jaanong ke re selo sengwe se se neng se sa dirwa tsena mo teng ba nne active mo teng ba dire madi ka sentle, go ne go diragetse bogole, ke yone kgang e ya one mafatshe le ka tsone dikitso tse e leng gore re setse bo mantšhe mme go a supafala gore mo Botswana ba na re di simolotse kana re setse re di itemogetse ka tsone le potential e ntsi ka gore ba kgona go tshela dingwaga dilo tse di ntseng jaana. DOMU e teng, re a e baakanya tse 70; mo 40 years wa teng ba le productive kana ba gompieno fa go nang le mathata so that we can enable banana gore ba tle ba tsene mo teng. ntse ba beela jalo le jalo. E bile go supafala Botswana e le the best environment ya go rua bo mantšhe lefatshe Selo se sengwe se se teng Honourable Dr Gobotswang ke le lotlhe le. Se sengwe gape ke gore Botswana is free yone kgang ya gore re tshwanetse gore re le Goromente from diseases tse di tshwanang le Newcastle le Avian gompieno re simolole go bereka mmogo mo dilong Influenza e e leng gore gompieno e tsentse tsebetsebe tse di ntseng jaana jaaka ke ntse ke bua ka kgang ya kwa South Africa mme golo mo go fa Botswana yone banana. Re tshwanetse go supa the value chain kana the comparative advantage ya gore we can produce bo potential opportunities tse e leng gore di teng mme re ba mantšhe ba le bantsi re bo re ba isa kwa dimmarakeng. gakolole gore go na le eng le bone ba tle kwa go rona ka Ke solofela gore ke arabile Mr Speaker. I thank you. gore totatota mo agriculture gompieno, opportunities di dintsintsi. Ga re ka ke ra palelwa ke bo leather park le bo DR GOBOTSWANG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke a Milk Afric Honourable Gobotswang. Se re tshwanetseng go leboga Tona to have been very, very honest, moo go go se dira ke gore re arogane information re bone gore botlhokwa thata gore le dire jalo. Gone mo go supa go re ka thusa fa kae gore dilo di kgone go tswelela kwa palelwa, ke tsaya gore o a bona le wena honourable. Go re neng re batla gore di ye teng. Gape re baakanye le palelwa mo go tswang kgakala le palelwa ke projects tsa policies gore sentlesentle projects tse di ntseng jaana di mofuta o e bile o tshwanetse gore ga ke dumele… tshwanetse gore di bo di le fa kae e bile di lebilwe ke MR SPEAKER: That cannot be a supplementary. bo mang gore di ye kwa di tshwanetseng go ya teng. Honourable Gobotswang, that is not a supplementary. Jaanong I think the Agricultural Policy e e leng gore re tlaa tloga re e tlisa Honourable Gobotswang, e tlile go DR GOBOTSWANG: Ee, tla ke wele ke ne ke santse baakanya go palelwa mo o ntseng o bua ka gone mo ka ke e e alela Mr Speaker... gore mongwe le mongwe o tlaabo a le accountable e MR SPEAKER: Nnyaa rra, ga re na nako; I have been bile a le responsible for their activities tse e leng gore saying so. ba tlaabo ba di neetswe. Le Goromente a itse gore ene o tshamekela fa kae, ka Setswana jaaka re bua kana ene DR GOBOTSWANG: Honourable Minister, mme where does she focus, business e dirwa ke private sector jaanong fa go padile jaaka go padile jaana, re ka tshepha jalo le jalo. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. jang gore mme gone bo leather park, Milk Afric le tse dingwe a mme le tlaa di kgona? Then o mpolelele SCHOOL DROPOUTS gore wa re go diragetse eng ka Dibete? Ke a bona gore mo karabong go ne go diragetse phoso go buiwa ka MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): Sebele. Ke ne ke batla go itse gore ka Dibete Ostrich asked the Minister of Basic Education: Multiplication Initiative gone go feletse kae honourable? (i) how many students drop out of school every year MS MANAKE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Gongwe ke on average due to alcohol, tobacco and drug abuse simolole ka yone Dibete Ostrich Multiplication Unit, e problems; supega e le gore e santse e le teng mme it is not breeding (ii) how many of these students enrol for rehabilitation; jaaka re ne re eleditse gore e ka bo e dira. Ke sone se jaanong re tsereng tshwetso ya gore DOMU e ya go (iii) if there are any students who have been rehabilitated nna mangwe mafelo a e leng gore jaaka re sa le re buile and returned to school, if so, how many and how before, we are going to enable banana le bomme jalo far have they gone with their education; and

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(iv) if there is a specific policy intervention for these MR REATILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr students and if not, why not. Speaker. Tla ke go leboge Tona wa Thuto go tswa Moding, ka fa Batswana ba buang ka teng. Honourable MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR Minister, mme o ka re bolelela gore a wena o bona go MOLAO): Mr Speaker, according to our records, an siame fela gore mo dikgannyeng tse di tshwanang le tse annual average of 29 learners dropped from school tsa rehabilitation, go bo go sena fa ministry wa gago o due to alcohol and substance abuse in recent years. tsenyang letsogo teng go netefatsa gore o lwa ka sengwe However, it should be noted that alcohol and substance le sengwe, o nna pelo botlhoko le lefufa fa o bona gore abuse manifests in various ways. Often learners botshelo jwa ngwana wa Motswana bo latlhega mo produce poor quality work, truancy and abscond from ponong ya batsadi? Lenaneo le o yang go tla ka lone e school, whilst others show social behaviour disorders le strategy go netefatsa gore jaanong go tsweng fa go which manifest as disrespect for authority and violence ya pele o sireletsa sone seo, re sa lebe fela ka dikgang at times. Such cases are often classified as basic tsa Botswana Substance Abuse Support Network indiscipline and are treated as such. Mr Speaker, my (BOSASNet), o ya go tla ka lenaneo le le ntseng jang ministry provides counselling for learners engaged in alcohol and substance abuse but does not provide to rehabilitate bana ba mo go tiileng motlotlegi? Ke a rehabilitation services. Over the years, boot camps were go leboga. conducted for learners to address general indiscipline MR MOLAO: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Jaaka ke sa and some to assist targeted learners with addiction. tswa go bua, kana fa bana ba dirile boitsholo bongwe However, BOSASNET reports that a total of 278 jo bo rileng, jo bo supang bo ka tswa gongwe bo na le children of school going age, of which 248 were male tlhotlheletso ya ditagi kgotsa e le botlhokatsebe fela jwa and 30 were female from 2016-2020 underwent their bana, gangwe le gape go nna le thulaganyo e re e dirang drug and alcohol addiction rehabilitation programme. ya go tlhotlhomisa go bona gore boitsholo jo bo ka In addition, the Ministry of Local Government and tswa bo bakilwe ke eng. Go bo go tsewa dikgato tse di Rural Development has a facility called Ikago Centre lebanyeng, tse ngwana a ka somarelwang ka tsone kante in Molepolole which is a school of industry for children under the age of 18 who are being rehabilitated from seemo se ka baakanngwa ka gone. Fa go diragala gore involvement in criminal activity. Currently, the facility ngwana a felele a kobiwa mo sekoleng, ke le fano ke has nine children who are taught skills such as building ne ka tsaya tshwetso ya gore bana fa ba dirile boitsholo amongst others. jo ba felelang ba kojwa, re se ka ra ba kobela ruri, ra feleletsa botshelo jwa bone. Ke sone se e leng gore mo Of the 87 reported cases of learners dropping from sebakeng se ke ntseng ke le fa, e ntse e le gore ngwana yo school between 2016 and 2018, only 18 children o kobiwang, mo gongwe re dira maximum of 12 months. returned to formal school following rehabilitation and Re bo re nna le thulaganyo ya go kwalela ba boipelego went on to complete their studies. The ministry will mo metseng e e farologaneng gore ba atamelane le strengthen links with Social Protection Services to ngwana, boeteledipele jwa sekole, gammogo le batsadi ensure rehabilitation and return of learners to school. ba ngwana go bona gore ngwana yo o thusiwa go ipopa sesha. E re morago ga ngwaga, e bo e le gore motsadi Mr Speaker, my ministry has an inclusive Education o ka boela kwa sekoleng jaanong ka report e e supang Policy designed to include all learners no matter what their circumstances are. Unfortunately, I have had to gore nnyaa mme ngwana re ntse re tshwaragane le ba expel a few learners who could not remain in school boipelego, le bone ba dira a supporting document ya go due to their antisocial behaviour. In such cases, I have supa gore ngwana yo jaanong o ipopile sesha. Re bo re always indicated that the school should ensure that ka boa ra mo amogela mo sekoleng gore a tsweledise such children undergo counselling and rehabilitation dithuto tsa gagwe kgotsa re mo isa le kwa sekoleng se with a view to readmit them after 12 months following se farologaneng le kwa a neng a le kwa go sone gore a successful rehabilitation. tle a itshimololele botshelo sesha teng koo.

This is done with the concurrence of their parents as and Ke tiro e re ka sekeng ra e dira re le nosi, re na le Lenaneo when they are expelled, their parents are written to and la Guidance and Counselling la Pastoral Policy, le re the children handed over to them for facilitation with le dirang mo dikoleng. Re tshwaragane le ba garona the Social Services Department in the Ministry of Local ba Local Government, BOSASNet le ba bangwe go re Government. I thank you Mr Speaker. thusa mokgweleo o ka gore ga re ka ke ra o kgona re

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le nosi. Maikaelelo ke gore Pastoral Policy ya rona le tsa sepatela are fully exclusively under the management Guidance and Counselling, re e nonotshe go gaisa fa re kana se tsamaisiwa jalo ke bone ba kereke ya Evangelical leng teng gompieno go leka go bopa bana jaaka ba le mo Lutheran Church of Botswana, Evangelical Lutheran dikoleng jaana. Ke yone thulaganyo e re e dirisang ya Church in Southern Africa and Evangelical Lutheran Pastoral Policy go leka go bopa boitsholo jwa bana fa Mission of Germany. Ke bone ba ba tsamaisang sepatela ba le mo dikoleng. Maikaelelo ke gore re e nonotshe, re seo Mr Speaker le botsamaisi jwa bone jwa Board. This oketse barutabana le bone ba ba ithutetseng tsa tshidilo arrangement Mr Speaker, e tlogela jalo gore ditsamaiso maikutlo mo dikoleng tsa rona go re thusa. Ke a leboga tsa letsatsi le letsatsi tsa go tsamaisa sepatela di mo go Mr Speaker. beng ba sone, le tsone tse di amang badiredi, tsotlhe di mo go beng ba sepatela se. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. Mr Speaker, BLH jaaka ke buile gore ke sepatela se se MR SPEAKER: I am afraid you cannot do that. ikemetseng, rona re le Goromente re a thusa, re dira mo GEMVAS AND BPOMAS BENEFITS FOR gotweng partial funding le badirelapuso ba bangwe ba NURSES e leng gore we have seconded koo. We have seconded staff sa Ministry of Health, ba ba emang nokeng day-to- MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister day operation ya sepatela. of Health and Wellness: (i) Mr Speaker, GEMVAS le BPOMAS are exclusively (i) why nurses at Bamalete Lutheran hospital are reserved for badirelapuso fela. E bile ke supe gore unable to benefit from Government Employees badirelapuso ba e leng gore are seconded by the Motor Vehicle and Residential Property Advance ministry to sepatela seo, bone ba a di bona ka gore Scheme (GEMVAS) and Botswana Public Officers ke badirelapuso ba ga Goromente. Medical Aid Scheme (BPOMAS); (ii) Botsamaisi kana Board of Directors, ba na le (ii) if nurses at Bamalete Lutheran hospital are not boikarabelo jwa go hira, jaanong ke bone ba ba supposed to have the same conditions of service hirang baoki. Jaanong kana fa e le bone ba ba as their Government counterparts; hirang baoki, tse di amang tsa itsholelo ya baoki ba ba leng koo, tsotlhe ke tsa bone e le beng ba (iii) why Government cannot take over all salaries and sepatela. Jaanong gore Goromente a tsenelele benefits of all nurses and staff for the purpose of mo mananeong a tsa welfare kana conditions of equality of benefits to their counterparts; service, gongwe jaanong e tlaabo e le contempt (iv) to list all disparity of benefits between Government or breach of the mutual agreement ya mohiri le employees, in particular nurses employed by mohiriwa, ya mooki yo o hirilweng koo le bone Bamalete Lutheran Church and nurses employed ba sepatela. by Government (paid directly by Government); (iii) Mr Speaker, Board ya BLH le ministry wa rona, and go kile ga nna le proposal e e tshwanang le ya gore gongwe baoki ba fiwe nako gore e tle e nne (v) what he is doing to address the problem. badirelapuso, mme go na le ba ba neng ba dira ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND mme ba bangwe ba felela e le gore ba sala ba le ka WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Ke a leboga kwa khirong ya sepatela. Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, potso e e tshwana le e e neng e (iv) Employment terms and benefits of employees boditswe ke Mopalamente wa Kanye North Rre Letsholo, tsa Bamalete Hospital, jaaka ke buile gore ke ka di 28 tsa ga July 2020. They are almost similar Mr agreement ya mohiri le mohiriwa, so ministry wa Speaker, e e neng e botsa ka botsamaisi jwa Bamalete rona ga o tsenelele merero ya gore tsa bone ba di Lutheran Hospital (BLH). Mr Speaker, Mopalamente tshwara jang, tse e leng gore ke tsa ditumalano tsa o ka gakologelwa jalo gore sepatela se sa BLH is a dikonteraka tsa bone. mission hospital, ke sepatela se se tsamaisiwang ke kereke, fully registered with the Registrar of Societies Mr Speaker, Botswana Government jaaka re supile as a private business entity. Jaanong fa se tsamaisiwa mo ntlheng ya ntlha, overtime allowance, both basic jalo e le sepatela se se ikemetseng, ditsamaiso tsotlhe allowances, housing and upkeep allowance and leave

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travel concession, tse di amang badirelapuso ba ba leng MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. koo, bone ba a di bona Mr Speaker, ba e leng gore we Ke supe fela gore that window e e neng e butswe e ne have seconded them that side. e le tumalano ya ga Goromente le jone botsamaise jwa sepatela. Go go bolelela fela jaanong gompieno gore Kwa bofelong Mr Speaker, jaaka ke supile kwa godimo mme tumalano ga e sa tlhola e le teng. That window has Bamalete Lutheran Hospital jaaka e le sepatela se se been closed. ikemetseng le ka tumalano ya rona, le the constitution of the hospital, the welfare ya babereki including Jaanong o bua ka grant gore ke eng re sa neele baoki ba promotion, progression and benefits are dealt with by ba leng koo directly, ka gore nako nngwe ba duelwa late. the hospital authority as part of their Human Resource Kana ke sone se ke se buileng gore, jaanong tsamaiso ya (HR) management. Ke tsamaiso ya bone ka koo Mr madi fa a setse a le kwa le tumalano tsa bone ka kwa ya Speaker. Ke a leboga. mohiri le mohiriwa, re le Goromente ka kwano, kana re le ba ministry, re buile gore ga re tsenelele mo go tseo. MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Ke ka fa tumalano ya rona e ntseng ka teng. Jaanong Speaker. Ke a leboga Honourable Sethomo Lelatisitswe, ke sone se go leng thata gore re ka tsaya madi re ye mongwe wa Matona a a tsipatsipang go gaisa bo later go duela batho re sa ba hira. Re buile gore re na le ba date. Tona, ka gore ka fa o arabang ka teng rraetsho go rona ba ba leng koo, ba ba seconded, ba ba duelwang kile ga nna le provision ya gore bangwe ba tlole, kana fela jaaka ba ba leng teng mo ministry ka kwano. Ke a mo re ka go bitsang re re window period, e bangwe ba leboga Mr Speaker. ka tlolang ba bo ba boela ka fa go Goromente go nna permanent and pensionable, a e ntse e teng, kana e ne e EMPLOYEES AT MAMUNO COVID-19 le ya nako eo fela e bo e tswalwa? TESTING LABORATORY

Ya bobedi ke gore, ee rra, re dumalana le wena, e bile MR M. G. J. MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): re a itse gore sepatela se is a private entity, let me use asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to state: that word. Le fa e le sa batho ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi kana kgang e tona e e fa pele ga rona ke gore bodiredi (i) how many of the employees seconded or stationed jwa baoki ke ba ba bitswang gotwe essential service. at the Mamuno COVID-19 testing laboratory are Jaanong ka gore ke essential service, a Puso ga e bone on permanent and pensionable employment and/ go le botlhokwa gore go na le go ka tsewa madi a or on short or long term contracts; isiwa e le grant kwa sepateleng, e nne mo ba duelwang (ii) when the contracts will end for those on contracts; directly on their accounts tsa bone? Ke gore e tsaya ba and essential service fela ka go thusana le bone, ka gore go thusana mo ga grants fa ke tsena mo potsong ya boraro (iii) whether these contracts are renewable gore go gogela kae, kana ka mangwe mabaka go le kgapetsakgapetsa ba kgona go duelwa late. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Ke wele ka yone eo gore, a mme o a itse le gore ba kgona go duelwa late mme e le ba essential service? (i) Thank you so much Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, kwa Kana kgang e ya gore Goromente o kgona go thusa a Mamuno COVID-19 laboratory re na le babereki private entity ga e simologe rraetsho. Ke ka go fa sekai ba le 13 employees stationed there at the facility. ka brigades, gore mo lefatsheng la Botswana… Nine ya Laboratory Technicians and two cleaners le two night watchmen. One Laboratory Technician MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi… is the only one who is employed on permanent (inaudible)…you are taking the whole time. Why are and pensionable basis. The other employees ba ba you giving examples, ask the question. leng teng koo they are on temporary contracts ya six months. MR RAMOGAPI: Ke re ke tlhalose fela ka brigades, ka bokhutshwane fela ke gore Goromente tota ke eng a (ii) The contract ya ba le eight Laboratory Technicians; sa tseye boikarabelo jwa go bua le this essential service lebaka le ba neng ba le beetswe ba ba eight ba fela jaaka e ne e le gore re ile ra felela re dira ka tsone ke six months, e e felang ka September 2021, brigades? Ga se selo santlha se re se kopang rraetsho. ngwaga one o. The renewal ya another six months Ke a leboga. period e e ya go fela ka March 2021. However,

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the contracts of the two cleaners and two Night Involvement of private sector re e tseela kwa godimo watchmen e santse e le ntsha Mr Speaker e rraetsho, gore lot of our services tse re bonang gore di ya go fela ka June 2021. Jaaka re itse gore the ka dirwa ke private sector re di dire. Jaaka o bona dilo Government Employment Policy ya re temporary tse dingwe di dirwa mo bo Gaborone Private Hospital contracts ga di ka ke tsa ntšhafadiwa beyond 12 (GPH), Diagnofirm, kae le kae, e le tse Goromente a months, ke gone fa re emeng teng. Re le ministry di dirang. Re kopile pele mongwame. Ke a leboga Mr Mr Speaker, re kopile kwa Directorate of Public Speaker. Service Management (DPSM) gore batho botlhe ba re ntseng re ba hirile ka ntata e ya Corona CONNECTION OF CLEAN WATER AT TEWANE gongwe re leke to absorb them. Re na le tsholofelo ya gore gongwe re tlaa nna le a better response, MR D. TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): asked the gore re kgone go nna le posts tse permanent. So Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation that batho ba re kgone go ba hira permanently. Services to apprise this Honourable House on progress Thank you Honourable Member. towards:

MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Speaker, ke botsa Tona gore (i) the connection of clean water at Tewane village; rraetsho o raya gore le kopile leng, ke sena go botsa and kana pele fa ke botsa? Le kopile leng mo e leng gore (ii) the extension of water reticulation in the village le gompieno jaana re ka bo re santse re emetse karabo? so that people of Mogotha kgotla can also have Two; A le a bona gore kgang e ya go dira matoditodi a access to water. dikonteraka le laletsa dikompone tse di ikemetseng ka MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER nosi gore go jewe Batswana ntsoma ka go nna le seke AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): le phuthulola mosepele wa go hira batho? Mathata ke Mr Speaker Tewane village is planned to be connected eng le sa hire batho tiro e le teng, mme e bile e supa e from the North-South Carrier scheme. The project tlaa tsaya lebaka le le leele? Mathata ke eng le sa hire to carry out this connection is at planning stage. rraetsho? Preparation of Terms of Reference (ToR) for a Design Kwa bofelong a le a itse gore fa o hirilwe o sa phuthologa, and Build Contractor is at draft stage. o sa hirelwa ruri, ga go na sepe se o se itirelang mo Once tender management processes are complete, botshelong? O nna o tshogile fela gore nako nngwe le implementation of the project is estimated to take 12 nngwe o ka nna wa tlogela, ga o ka ke wa tsaya loans, ga months. The project entails construction of a package o ka ke wareng, Mr Speaker. Araba rraetsho. plant and rehabilitation of the transfer network and MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Honourable storage reservoirs. The transfer network and storage Member. Sa ntlha Mr Speaker ke supe jaana gore, tota go reservoirs implementation will cover the cluster of a supafala gore batho ba ba hirilweng mo ga Goromente Mogome, Radisele, Mokgware and Tewane. The cluster ba bantsi. Se e bile se babalela le tsamaiso ya rona. Ke is supplied by one scheme, including Tewane village. sone se go buiwang gore re leke go fokotsa bodiredi. Ke Mr Speaker, when answering the same question on the tsaya gore ke se Honourable Member a se itseng. E bile 21st November 2019, I had indicated that the project Goromente o leka go godisa private sector. Se ke sengwe to connect Tewane and other villages in the cluster se e leng gore re le ministry to empower private sector would have commenced by this time. However, ke golo mo re go tseelang kwa godimo. E bile gore dilo commencement has not started. The commencement tse dintsi, ditirelo re di busetse gone kwa private sector. will be dependent on the implementation of the second Fa re tsena mo karabong ya gago Honourable Member, phase of North South Carrier Scheme (NSC 2) from re sale re kopile pele, pele ga dikonteraka tse di fela. Palapye to Mahalapye. The delay on the implementation Fela fa re tsena mo Coroneng re lemoga jalo gore re ya of the NSC 2 link from Palapye to Mahalapye has go tlhoka batho ba bantsi, jaaka Tona Matsheka a ne a resulted with the resultant delay for Tewane connection. supa gore go ya go kgaolwa vacant posts ka 50 per cent, re le ministry re bo re ntsha mokwalo wa go kopa gore, The delay for the NSC 2 link from Palapye to Mahalapye rra golo mo go se ka ga re ama. Jaanong ke gone mo go project was mainly at tender management stage. Tender supang gore re sale re kopile pele gore re tle re tsholetse evaluation and adjudication processes for the project mosepele go ya kwa pele. took longer than expected. At one point, the tender

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had to be cancelled in a bid to try to deal with technical MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL issues, which were raised by the Adjudication Authority, RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM which is Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (MS KERENG): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. (PPADB). Mr Speaker, I have not interacted with Makomoto Mr Speaker, the tender for the NSC 2 link (from Palapye Development Trust as the Honourable Member is saying. to Mahalapye) is currently at PPADB for adjudication However, my ministry continues to work with the in order for them to give us a No Objection so that we community trusts across the country to empower them can proceed to financial evaluation of the contractor with skills and knowledge to develop viable projects submissions. and where possible provide funding for implementation of those projects. (ii) The upgrading of a reticulation network for Tewane village, including extension to Mogotha Kgotla is Mr Speaker, my ministry has intended to support the not planned during National Development Plan development of a game farm for Makomoto Community (NDP) 11 due to budgetary constraints. I thank Trust to facilitate job creation and to diversify the you Mr Speaker. tourism product offering in the area.

MR TSHERE: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa As we all may be aware, COVID-19 pandemic has Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke a leboga Tona gore impacted on our financial ability as a country and letsatsi leno o bo o amogetse gore kgang e ya Tewane e it has not been possible to support all the proposed diegile ka gore re ne re tshwanetse gore ka June 2021 re projects as most of the resources have been diverted bo re e nwa metsi kwa Tewane. Ke a utlwa gore o dira towards fighting the pandemic. However Mr Speaker, maiteko. my ministry will continue to look for possible funding opportunities in the future to support the development Mo go ya bobedi wa re the reticulation ya go isa metsi of the game farm. Ke a leboga Mr speaker. kwa Mogotha Kgotla ga e yo in the plan. Kana rotlhe re a itse gore Mogotla Kgotla go kgakalanyana. Batho ba MR MOATLHODI: Supplementary. Dipotso tse pedi balawa ke dikiriba go ya go tsaya metsi kwa pompong Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke that you provided kwa Kgotleng e nngwe. A ga go na gore fa Mmaetsho Tona a re ga a ise a kopane le ba thulaganyo epe ya gore bogolo o ise standpipe se ye Mokomoto mme e bile a bua gore ba buisantse ka go re go ema kwa Mogotha Kgotla gore batho ba kgone go gelela metsi gautshwane le bone ka gore o a itse gore go direla game park, can she reconcile the two statements? motlhaba golo kwa, batho ga ba kgone go kgarametsa La bobedi, future ya gagwe o raya leng, fa a re go tlaa dikiriba sentle? Ke a leboga. lebiwa in the future? How long is this future and when MR MZWINILA: Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa is this future? Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Jaaka ke buile, go phatlalatsa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. metsi re a isa kwa Mogotha ga go mo ditogamaanong MS KERENG: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke tlhaloganya tsa rona. Jaaka Motlotlegi Mopalamente a bua a ntsha potso ya ga Honourable Member fa a re I have interacted bogakolodi, re ka tla ra lebaleba kana ra sekaseka gore a le community. Ka fa ke utlwang ka teng, o raya gore mme re ka isa pompo teng. Ke kgang e ke e amogelang ke ne ke kwa ke kopane le bone gongwe ra tshwara gore re ka tla raya go e sekaseka gore tota re ka dira diphuthego kana ra nna le dipuisanyo. Ga go molato, ga standpipe. Ke a leboga. ke ise ke ye koo. Ga ke ise ke kopane le bone mme ke MAKOMOTO DEVELOPMENT TRUST ne ke supa gore le fa e ke ise ke kopane le bone ka tsela e nna ke tlhaloganyang ka yone, lephata la me le ntse le MR P. P. P. MOATLHODI (TONOTA): asked tshwaragane le trust go leka go bona gore ba ka thusiwa the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ke sone se ke ka se tlhalosang. Conservation and Tourism to confirm or deny that during her interaction with the Makomoto Development Jaanong gore when is that future, the future is now ka Trust in April 2021 she assured them that Makomoto gore mo nakong ya gompieno jaaka ke bua gore re Development Trust shall be up and running by April tsweletse re batla kwa re ka bonang madi teng gore 2021 and if so, can the Minister state what developments e tsweledise re thibe diphatlha jaana. Madi a kile a have taken place so far. sutisiwa ke go ya go lwantsha mogare wa COVID-19.

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Rre Moatlhodi, re santse re tshwere trust e mo lebogong Mr Speaker, it is indeed true that my ministry issued re e batlela madi. Mo nakong ya gompieno re sekaseka a Purchase Order to Moffat Group (Pty) Ltd for the the National Environmental Funds gore re kgone go procurement of surgical disposable facemasks. bona sengwenyana mo teng re tle re ba simolodise project. (i) This tender was subjected to a competitive bidding process. A total of 38 companies identified from the Se sengwe gape se re se lebileng ke go nonotsha database compiled by our COVID-19 Procurement bokgoni jwa trust eo, re bone gore e tlaa agiwa ka tsela Unit were invited to bid for the supply and delivery e e ka kgonang go tsamaisa ditirelo tse re tlaabong re ba of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) which is thusa ka tsone. So future ke gompieno jaaka re simolotse inclusive of disposable three ply face masks. The motlotlegi. Ke a leboga. list of which is attached. Out of the 38 companies invited, 32 responded and these included Moffat MR MOATLHODI: Further supplementary. Ke Group. a leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. A Motlotlegi Mmaetsho Tona o a lemoga The masks in question were procured in the following gore fa ke re o kopane nabo, ga ke reye wena in person? quantities: Ke raya lephata la gago. • 20, 000 packages of 100 each of tie strips disposable MS KERENG: O ikarabile motlotlegi. Lephata la me le masks thus making two million; and lomagane le trust. Go raya gore ke kopane le bone le fa re sa bonana ka matlho. Thank you Mr Speaker. • 20, 000 packets of 100 each of elastic ear loops disposable masks thus making two million. QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE The total quantity to be delivered was therefore four PURCHASE ORDER FOR DISPOSABLE FACE million disposable facemasks. MASKS Let me further point that in addition to this tender award, MR D. SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): asked there were other six awarded to citizen companies. the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Administration to confirm if his Ministry issued (ii) Mr Speaker, our commitment has always a purchase order to Moffat Group (Pty) Ltd for the been, where possible, to procure COVID-19 purchase of disposable facemasks; if the answer is in commodities from the local citizen owned the affirmative, he should disclose the following: companies. These companies would in turn procure from local or external manufacturers. (i) if the tender award was subjected to a competitive However, there are instances where Government bidding process; procures items like testing reagents and equipment directly from the manufacturers. The arrangement (ii) why the Government did not procure the masks where we procure through citizen companies was from the manufacturers; made in such a way that it would empower and grow our citizen owned companies. Having said (iii) the total quantities ordered; the price charged as that Mr Speaker, it is important to note that as of well as the delivery time for the order; now, there are no disposable masks manufacturers (iv) how they established that the price charged is in Botswana. reflective of the market value; and (iii) Mr Speaker, as I have already indicated, the total (v) if they are willing to state the full details of quantities ordered was 4 million disposable face COVID-19 related purchases through private masks at a rate of P4.95 each. The items were th businesses for public scrutiny on a monthly basis ordered on 5 February 2021, and delivered on the th to avoid possible corruption. 26 February 2021. The bidder was issued with Government Purchase Order (GPO) and expected ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL to deliver within 21 days. The company started AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC delivering from 22nd February 2021 until the final ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank delivery which was done on the 26th February you Mr Speaker. 2021.

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(iv) Mr Speaker, analysis of the prices as quoted by ga a mantsi thata, ke maina fela a a ka tshwarang 14 different bidders gave us an idea of what the ever since procurement ya teng e simologa. O ka a tsaya, market charges on the surgical disposable mask. ga gona sephiri sepe se se dirwang, we are trying to be As at that time, the ongoing market price for as transparent as possible. I have other names here le disposable masks ranged between P6.00 and maina a Directors tsa teng, le gore companies tsa teng di P10.00 due to the then high demand. simolotswe leng. If he wants me to give him the names I will. Mo COVID-19 procurement ba re tlhalosetsa gore Mr Speaker, there are several parameters that assist in ba dirile database ya bone. They invited companies to establishing the market value of commodities. These submit their names, they have a database of over 200 include: names. Every time fa go nna le sengwe se ba batlang go (a) the competitive bidding prices at any particular se reka, they take a batch of 20 names, so the next batch point in time; and gape ba tsaya 20, go fitlhelela ba kgoma 200, ba bo ba boela kwa morago. Dilo tse di dirwa fela, everything is (b) the market survey that we conduct from time to above board Mr Saleshando, and if you want any further time. That notwithstanding, I must make it clear additional information, you can obviously get it in the that it is not easy to dictate terms and rates to future as you will need it. It is there, it is available and the market forces, because other factors such we are ready to give it to you if you so require, ga gona as transportation, clearing or handling charges, sepe se se dirwang ka bokukuntshwane. custom duties, etc. will also contribute in determining the commodity prices as the market Gore facemasks ke P4.95 kwa chemist ke P3.00, re a forces may deem fit. utlwa. Kana o tshwanetse go itse gore procurement team, rona we understand and we believe gore fa e reka dilo, (v) Mr Speaker, on monthly basis, Public Procurement e di reka prices tsa teng di le reasonable. We depend on and Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) is provided their best judgement as experts ba ba re rekelang, ga go with all COVID-19 procurement reports of reke rona Ministers kana mapolotiki. Go reka bone ba purchases. I thank you Mr Speaker. ba itseng gore ditlhwatlhwa di tsamaya jang, jaaka ba re file price ya P6 to P10, mme bona gore ba tsere price MR SALESHANDO: Supplementary. Ke a go leboga ya P4.50. At the time fa ba reka, we do not know gore Mr Speaker. Tona selo sa ntlha ga a araba (v). Potso because mafatshe jaanong dikgwebo di buletswe, prices e ke neng ke e botsa ga se gore a le bolelela PPADB, di ya kwa tlase gongwe o ka bua ka P3.00. That one we ke ne ke re if they are willing to state the full details of will have to maybe confirm and find out in the future, COVID-19 related purchases through private businesses gore fa price e le P3.00 ke eng bone ba reka ka P4.95. for public scrutiny on a monthly basis to avoid possible They will have an explanation for that I believe, and a corruption. Ga a e araba, fa a nthaya a re bone ba reasonable one. Thank you Mr Speaker. bolelela PPADB, ga se potso e ke e boditseng. MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Supplementary. Number 2, a Tona o a itse gore as we speak today, kana Thank you very much Mr Speaker and good morning. GPO e ke ya February, gone jaana re mo go April. Go Thank you Honourable Minister for dikarabo tseo. motlhofo gompieno jaana go reka mask o le mongwefela at a unit cost ya P3.00. Bone ke eng ba ya go reka masks Sa ntlha Minister, ke utlwa o re go na le database di le 4 million, ba palelwa ke go batla price e e kwa tlase ya dikompone gongwe di le bo 200. Gongwe o ka ga e e reng when you walk into a pharmacy o kgona go sedimosetsa batho kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, ka gore bona masks di le 50 at P150, which means it is P3.00? ba nna ba re botsa gore kante go dirwa jang. We have Go tsamaya jang gore ba ye go ntsha madi a a kanakana, never been put up to speed go itse gore fa o batla go nna ba duelela masks which they could have even purchased mo database yone ya to supply dilo tsa tshoganetso go directly in the pharmacies at a much cheaper rate, mme dirwa jang. Gongwe o ka simolola wa tlhalosa eo. bone ba reka di le 4 million, go tsamaile jang? It has been more than a year re na le mathata a MR MTHIMKHULU: Mr Speaker, kana fa e le gore COVID-19 Minister, by now should we not have Honourable Saleshando o batla maina a dikompone developed a mechanism e e leng gore thulaganyo e ya go tse di ka tswang di filwe kgwebo ke ba COVID-19 reka e boetse kwa PPADB, ka gore we cannot go for the procurement team, o ka a kopa re ka mo a neela. A teng next however long re dirisa this method of procurement,

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ka gore e na le challenges tsa yone. Should we not by bonako jo bo rileng. Jaanong fa e le gore we are going now be back at PPADB, this procurement e dirwa fela to tender ka the normal process ya kwa PPADB e e leng jaaka e nngwe ya ga Goromente? Gakere go ka rekwa gore tenders are floated, o a itse gore go tsaya lebaka. in bulk and then monitor the stock as and when e ntse e Jaanong ga re batle go dirwa jalo, mme even as we do tsamaya. O bo o bona gore o ka reka go sa tlhoke go nna procuring under this emergency, we try by all means to e le emergency procurement. ensure that every process is as transparent as possible and most companies are given the chance to participate Sa bofelo Minister, ke utlwa o re only 14 companies in the tendering process. E nngwe ya boraro, e ne e le have been awarded these tenders, ke bona e le a very eng Rre Healy? small number for what I consider to be the amounts that have been spent to buy dilo tsa COVID-19. Ke bona go MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: O ne o re companies gakgamatsa, so I wanted to know how we had arrived at di 14 fela tse di filweng ditiro, ke ne ke re madi a a situation e e leng gore hundreds of millions have been mantsintsi a, a re ka bo re sa a kgaoganya Batswana ba spent, but it looks like it is only on 14 companies. Ke a palo e e fa godimonyana? leboga mongwame. MR MTHIMKHULU: Mr Healy, le nna e rile fa ke MR MTHIMKHULU: Mr Healy, o bona fa o mpotsa bona list e ke e neelwa, ka gore list e ke e bone fa potso dipotso tse di botlhokwa jalo go ne go batla o nkwaletse e re e araba ya companies tse gotweng di filwe tenders, pele gore ke di gakologelwe. Fa o mpotsa di le dintsi ga se gore ke ntse ke e itse. Le nna fela e ne ya dira o bo o bua lebaka, ke felela fa gongwe ke sa ye go go gore o kare ke a gakgamalanyana ka gore madi a go direla justice ke lebetse. ntseng gotwe a a dirisiwa, go rekiwa ka one a mantsi. Ke ne ke solofetse gore companies di ya go nna dintsi. Ke simolole ka ya ntlha, ke dumela gore o ne o botsa Karabo e ke neng ka e fiwa ke gore nnyaa, dilo ka bontsi gore, gore batho ba tsene mo list ya database ya bone ke tse di neng di rekiwa, ga di a rekiwa mo Botswana, di gore go dirwe jang. Fa go simololwa la ntlha, dikompone ne di rekiwa directly ke bone ba COVID Team kwa ka bontsi di ne tsa tla kwa go bone tsa ba approach, mafatsheng a sele. They procured from producers or ke dumela gore le bone ba ne ba ntsha mokwalo gore suppliers outside Botswana. Go ne go reka lefatshe, not dikompone di ka ba approach. Also, ba re from time to the middleman, not our agents here, ba ba rekang ba time fa company e batla to supply them, ba re almost bo ba re rekisetsa, it was procured gone koo. Ba ne ba on a daily basis company di a tla kwa go bone. Fa ba nkaraba jalo. Fa e le gore go na le information e nngwe tla kwa go bone, ba tsaya dipampiri ba ya go tsenya e e tlaa tswang kwa morago, ka gore it is being audited mo database o bo o tsena mo moleng. Ga se gore fa as a report, re tlaa e tlisa. o tsene gone foo o ya go bona tender document gone foo, ba tsamaya ka line fela jaana. Fa e le gore o tsena Ba ne ba tlhalosa gape gore COVID Tender Committee kwa number 250, ba tsamaya mo go 100, o itse gore o e e dirilweng gompieno, team ya teng, reports tse ba di ya go emela gore ba tsamaye ba ntsha ma 20 a bone go re fileng tse, ke tse di simologileng nako ya fa komiti e e fitlhelela ba tla kwa go 250 o bo o tsena mo that batch simologa. O tshwanetse o gakologelwe gore fa bolwetse ya 20 companies e ba ba neelang Request For Quotation jo bo simologa, procurement was done kwa Health, (RFQs). Ba tsamaya ka batches, ka fa ba neng ba bua procedure e e neng e salwa morago, ke e e neng e ntse e ka teng, so whether ke batch ya 20 kana ya 30, fa ba le teng of procuring, e e neng e ntse e dirwa kwa Health. tlhophile, fa o tsena mo teng ba tlaa go neela. Fa go na Dilo tsa ntlha fa go simologa, di rekilwe ke ba Health le mongwe yo o mo itseng a na le company a batla go before go dirwa komiti e e fudusetswa kwa Ministry wa dira, mo reye a ye kwa COVID-19 tender committee, Office of the President. Ke dumela gore o a tlhaloganya ba tlaa tsaya dipampiri tsa gagwe ba bo ba mo tsenya gore ke bua ka golo mo go ntseng jang. So go raya gore mo procurement list ya bone. E tlaa re nako ya gagwe e information e nngwe e tlileng pele, ga e yo fa, e e fa e, ke goroga o tlaa neelwa. e e leng gore it was generated jaanong COVID Tender Committee e le yone e rekang e le under our ministry. Ya bobedi, wa re go na le lebaka gongwe over a year COVID e le teng, procuring for COVID, ee, ke a HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Supplementary. dumalana le wena go ntse jalo. Mme kana COVID will MR SPEAKER: I am afraid we cannot do that. always be an emergency because we are dealing ka dilo tse di tlhokang gore e re fa di tsoga, di tsibogelwe ka HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke tsholeditse tlhe Mr two, back in 2015 and upon completion of these Speaker, potso e e botlhokwa gore… studies; they were absorbed by the public and private health sector. MR SPEAKER: I know, but we do not have time. Mr Speaker, sufficiency level of radiographers or QUALIFIED CITIZEN RADIOGRAPHERS work force to available radiography equipment varies MR O. REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): from health facility to health facility as outlined in the asked the Minister of Health and Wellness: examples below. Referral hospitals in Botswana, that is; Marina and Nyangabgwe have five radiography (i) the number of qualified citizen radiographers; modalities with 12 types of equipment and then they have nine radiographers. District hospitals that include; (ii) how many have been deployed at Molepolole Scottish Livingstone, two radiography modalities and Government health facilities; six types of equipment, then we have six radiographers. (iii) which institutions in Botswana offer Radiography Mahalapye Hospital, four radiography modalities Programme and how many new graduates are and seven types of equipment, and we have seven absorbed in the market each year; and radiographers. Letsholathebe Memorial, we have three radiography modalities, six equipment types, and four (iv) can the Minister indicate in percentage terms radiographers. Primary hospitals; two radiography the current national sufficiency level of supply modalities with two or three equipment types, one or or availability of both radiography equipment two radiographers. Nationally Mr Speaker, the number and qualified personnel and whether that isa of radiographers does not match the available equipment satisfactory level; if it is not satisfactory, what is as there are more equipment than personnel, resulting in the ministry doing about it. long waiting periods for diagnostic procedures, added to shortage of manpower and increasing demand for ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND specialised radiography. Therefore, there is a need for WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you the expansion of these services. My ministry is engaging so much Mr Speaker and good morning Honourable the University of Botswana (UB) to localise radiography Member. training, in order to address scarcity of radiographers in (i) There are 20 Batswana Radiographers out of this country Mr Speaker. I thank you. 85 employed by Ministry of Health, that is 65 MR REGOENG: Supplementary. Tona ke a go are non-citizens. Mr Speaker, radiography is a utlwa, jaanong a ko o mpolelele, ka wa re there are medical emerging technology that uses ionizing 85 radiographers mo Botswana and a larger part ba and non-ionizing radiation to aid in diagnosis and ba 65 ke batswakwa, thulaganyo e o e dirang ke eng le treatment of diseases. There are three branches of Lephata la Tertiary Education gore mo go tlhaelang mo, radiography, which are; diagnostics, radiotherapy o bone gore o ka go baya ka tsela e e ntseng jang, kana and nuclear medicine. Only three citizens have maikaelelo ke go tsamaya fela o dirisa batswakwa gore specialised in ultrasound scanning and there ke bone a bo le ka ba hira? Ke yone potso ya ntlha. are no Magnetic Resonance Image (MRI) and Computerised Tomography (CT) Scan specialists Ya bobedi rraetsho, a o a itse gore go na le thulaganyo who are citizens. e e neng e dirwa ke ba meepo ya Botswana le ba South Africa gore Batswana ba ba kileng ba bereka kwa (ii) There are six radiographers deployed at Scottish meepong, ba bo ba ka kopana kwa Molepolole gore ba Livingstone Hospital, that is two citizens and ye go tsewa x-rays go tlholwa gore ba ka thusiwa ka four non-citizens. However, two radiographers tsela e e ntseng jang. Ke sone fela station se se kwa are on end of contract leave, that is, only four are Molepolole se se dirang Botswana otlhe, batho ba kgona currently at that hospital. go tswa kwa Shakawe, Chobe, Kgalagadi ba kgobokana kwa Molepolole, mme go sena radiographer yo o ka (iii) Mr Speaker, currently there is no institution that dirang. Jaanong potso ke gore tota re ikaelela go thusa offers radiography programme in Botswana and Batswana ka tsela e e ntseng jang? Fa godimo ga moo, trainings are done outside the country. The last bone ba South Africa ba setse ba simolotse lenaneo la citizens to graduate in radiography were only Tshiamiso, le le yang go atologa for the next 10 years,

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mme thulaganyo e ya gore go bo go na le radiography TABLING OF A PAPER exercise, e bo e tlhokafala. Maikaelelo a gago ke gore o bo o ka dira eng tota go bona gore Batswana ba a The following paper was tabled: thusiwa kwano ka gore ba a sokola e le boammaaruri? REPORT OF THE 57TH MEETING OF THE Ke a leboga. PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE FOR THE MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr 2017/2018 ACCOUNTS Speaker. Ke dumela gore Honourable Member o a (Chairperson of the Public Accounts Committee) gakologelwa gore go na le lephata le le ka fa tlase ga ga Tona Letsholathebe, la Human Resource Development MR SPEAKER: Thank you Chairman. Council (HRDC), ba ba lebeletseng dithutego tse Batswana ba nang le tsone, ba bo ba leka go gakolola STATEMENT in terms gore go iwe training, mme le radiography e APPRECIATION OF TEACHERS’ teng gone kwa HRDC, go nna go supiwa jalo. Ke tsaya CONTRIBUTION AMIDST COVID-19 gore tsa training tota kwa tshimologong ya tsone, di CHALLENGES simologa gone koo, ke gone kwa bofelong, bana ba ba isiwang kwa university under Tertiary Education. MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR Re tlaa tswelela fela jaaka re supile mo puong gore re MOLAO): Ke a leboga Mr Speaker for this opportunity. nne re bue le university to localise this programme gore Mr Speaker, may I take this time to appreciate the re nne le more radiographers or radiologists in this opportunity accorded to me to address this House on this country, mme fela tota gone thulaganyo e e ka dirwa ke last day of its sitting on the outstanding contribution of ba HRDC. teachers and other staff members to this year’s academic life in our schools thus far. Fa re tsaya potso ya gago ya bobedi Honourable Member, ya babereki ba bantsi ba ba tlang kwa Scottish, ke supe Mr Speaker, we had thought that the year 2021 jalo gore ke gone mo re neng ra baya dipalonyana tse di will be better compared to the previous one which fa godimo tsa batho ba le eight gone ka koo, e le gone was punctuated by lockdowns, a number of travel go thusa mo thulaganyong eo. Re leboge gore le yone restrictions, quarantines and isolation at school level potso e, e re supegeditse jalo gore ba le babedi jaanong due to COVID-19 cases which disturbed the normal ba mo end of contract. Ke tlaa leka gore fa ke tswa fa, flow of school life. However, it is regrettable that it has ke tshwaragane le bone ba management wa sepatela go turned out that in the year 2021, COVID-19 has become bona gore kgang e re ka e thusanya jang go ya kwa pele even more aggressive. We continue to experience large rraetsho. numbers of infections in some of our schools forcing us to suspend teaching and learning for days and using MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much. some of our facilities as both quarantine and isolation centres for those who are infected in our school HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. community. This is bound to have adverse effects on our MR SPEAKER: We move on. Honourable Members, learning outcomes Mr Speaker. I understand the Chairman of the Public Accounts Mr Speaker, in this first quarter of this academic year, Committee, Honourable Keorapetse has a paper to table. like other sectors, we have experienced loss of lives due HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker. to COVID-19. Both teachers and support staff have not been spared. To date, we have lost 25 teachers across MR SPEAKER: O tlaa e dira ka koo. the entire country and 12 support staff members due to COVID related deaths. This is psychologically draining MR KEORAPETSE: Mma ke go leboge Motsamaisa not only on relatives but on other teachers, learners, Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke go eleletse botsogo jo and colleagues who live like families in the school bontle jaaka Palamente e tlaabo e khutla. Ke eleletse environment across the country. Mapalamente a gago mesepele e e babalesegileng go ya kwa dikgaolong jaaka Palamente e tlaabo e khutla mo Despite these traumatic challenges Mr Speaker, letsatsing la gompieno, gammogo le badiri ba Palamente teachers have remained focused and continue to do ka tiro e e kanakana e ba e dirileng ka bokgabane. their best to guide our learners. Learners have hope

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that despite COVID-19, there is still tomorrow due our day to day pursuits. To the school community, to partly parental role played by teachers. I take this as you will be travelling back home to meet your moment to commend them for their enduring strength families across the country, please ensure you are safe and courage and urge them to continue with this good and observe all the protocols. During this Parliament work. The 2020 examinations results were not different recess Honourable Members, I urge and request you from those of the previous year of 2019, though the year to check out COVID-19 compliance in schools in your had many challenges arising from COVID-19. This was constituencies as you are back home to assist us to plug possible because of teachers’ outstanding hard work and the gaps that maybe there in our schools. Mr Speaker, I contribution. thank you.

Mr Speaker, in appreciating the outstanding job done MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Minister. by teachers, my ministry has in consultation and Honourable Members, I am not going to take up concurrence with His Excellency the President, decided questions. I will be liberal. I understand Standing Order to give teachers and other members of staff across our 41.3, which gives the Speaker the discretion to allow schools, free eight working days to rest during the short questions. I do not intend to use that discretion and upcoming school vacation. This means they will not therefore, there will be no short questions. We move on. need to apply for leave. The first term school vacation starts on Friday 23rd April, 2021 and schools will reopen Honourable Members, there is a matter of urgent on the 11th May, 2021 for second term. Therefore, we importance which Honourable Motsamai wants to raise expect staff to report back to duty station on Thursday 6th to get your permission to debate a Motion which he will May to prepare for term two. Our COVID-19 Inspection explain to you so that you can decide whether or not you Teams will inspect schools for compliance starting want to allow him permission to bring the Motion. Friday the 7th of May, 2021, hence school leadership should return to schools on Monday 3rd May, 2021 to MOTION FOR THE ADJOURNMENT- prepare for this. Where there are learners who are still DEFINITE MATTER OF URGENT on quarantine in schools during this time of vacation, PUBLIC IMPORTANCE school leadership will continue to make plans to ensure Provision of COVID-19 Vaccine by Private they remain on quarantine until they recover. Health Providers, Medical Aid Providers As I conclude my presentation Mr Speaker, I appeal to and Other Companies the entire nation, especially Members of this August Motion House to continue to support our teachers and learners during this difficult time. Learning should continue MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Ke a go despite the challenges and dangers posed by the leboga Mr Speaker, ke go leboge mongwame. Ka COVID-19 pandemic as education is a fundamental bokhutshwane ke boammaaruri ke kopa go baya human right for our children. I wish to emphasise the Palamente e pele mogopolo wa gore ke nne le karolo, important role played by teachers in education and le seabe, jaaka e rile ke simolola fela ke bua ka dilo tsa the economy as a whole. Schools are a safe haven for COVID, ka supa fa bolwetse jwa Corona e se jwa babusi children which allows parents to pursue other economic ba le esi mme e le jwa rona rotlhe, ka ba ka wela ka activities without a hindrance while their children are at kgang ya gore ke tlaa dira sengwe le sengwe se ke ka se school. Our teachers on a daily basis face a large number kgonang go thusa go lwantsha bolwetse jo. of learners which expose them to the risk of COVID-19 Mr Speaker, ke tsile ka mogopolo o ke o bayang infections. It is therefore my ardent hope that once the Palamente pele, ke tlaa ntsha mabaka a le mararo fela supply of COVID-19 vaccines improves in the country, ke bo ke boela morago gore Palamente e tle e ntetle ke o Honourable Members will support the prioritisation of buise. Mogopolo o o bua gore ke bone jaaka Goromente teachers for early vaccination so that they may continue a le mo boimeng kana a imelwa go sena madi, makgetho their work without much fear and anxiety. a ile magoletsa, Goromente a supa gore ga go na madi Mr Speaker, may I take this time to underscore the fact jalojalo, le batho go supega kgaolo ya bone mo ditirong. that all our efforts to contain this virus and save lives Se sa nkgwetlha gore ke tswe ka mogopolo wa gore will be in vain if we do not continue to take the necessary Goromente a bue le makalana kana a letlelele makalana precautions to comply with COVID-19 protocols in a a tshwanang le medical aids ba rekele clients tsa bone

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kana batho ba ba butseng boloko kwa go bone melemo Kgang ya gore re bo re ka letlelela the private health le ditsompelo tse dingwe tse di amanang le bolwetse facilities to vaccinate on behalf of the Government jone jo jwa COVID Mr Speaker. Ditsompelo ke raya go teng go a diragala, re tsweletse ka go dira le bone. jaaka gompieno clients tsa bone ba kgona go tlhokafala Maloba jaana fa go kentiwa le kwa Boteti ba mmaene ba tlhokafalela mo dipateleng ntata ya gore dipatela fa wa Debswana ba ne ba na le seabe mo go kenteng. Fa go gongwe le tsone ga ba na ditsompelo tse di rileng jaaka tla go tsena mo go ba ba private, we always engage with di oxygen le ventilators tse di enough gore ba emele tiro them kgapetsakgapetsa. Re setse re buisane le Business e ka dinao. Botswana, ba eteletswe pele ke Dr Ntwaagae, go bona gore fa melemo e nna teng re ya go dirisana jang le bone Ke wela jaana ke sa bue ka medical aid fela, ke bua le gore re kgone go atolosa go kentiwa mo ga batho. ka dikompone tse di tona tse di nang le itsholelo gore ba letlelelwe go reka melemo ba e rekele le babereki Fa go tla go tsena mo kgannyeng ya procurement, kgang ba bone, ke ka baya sekai fela ka bo Debeers. Ke raya e e tlhamaletse Mr Speaker, go rekiwa ga melemo, badiri jalo gore mme ba tlaabo ba sa tsenye order ya melemo ba melemo deal with mebuso fela. Kgang e e leng teng directly, ba tlaabo ba tsenya dikopo tsa bone through ke…(Inaudible)… team committee, e na le lekalana le the channel ya ga Goromente, Goromente e nna the one e leng gore mo the private ...(Inaudible)… le eteletswe screening a bo a reka ba bo ba tla go tsaya dilo tseo pele ke Mme ...(Inaudible)… le bone ba nne le seabe mo mo go ene, go bona gore tota they are supplying dilo thulaganyong e. Ga ke bone go le maleba gore Motion tse di matshwanedi mo Batswaneng. Ka mabaka ao Mr wa ga Rre Motsamai o ka tla wa emisa ditsamaiso tsa Speaker, mogopolo o ke tlhomoga pelo, Honourable Palamente ya gompieno gore o ka buisanwa ka gore ke Moatlhodi o a tle a re o phatloga pelo, ya me e a silega. dilo tse di teng di a diragadiwa. Ke a leboga. Ke silega pelo ka fa ke bonang bagaetsho, ka fa ke bonang Batswana ba bangwe ba tlhokafala mme ba na MR SPEAKER: Let me say this straight away that at le lehagane kana ba na le se ba nang le sone mme e le the end Honourable Motsamai I think it will only be fair gore medical aids ba santse ba buseditse matsogo ka fa that I give you the floor after about two speakers. morago Mr Speaker. MR MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA-KUMAKWANE): Tlaa ke eme fela go le kalo, ke tlaa tswelela ka go o Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke tsaya gore Tona wa buisa fa ke letlelelwa ke Palamente e ke itseng gore le Botsogo o e tlhatswitse. Ke ne ke re ke kope Motlotlegi bone ba o ratile ba a rumaruma gore ba o eme nokeng o Motsamai gore re tsene mo go tse dingwe ka gore kgang fete o thuse Batswana. Ke a leboga. e e arabilwe gantsi go supa gore melemo e e rekisediwa mafatshe fela. Mme e bile gape re boletse, Puso ba ntse MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Motsamai. ba araba gantsi gore anybody yo o eletsang go thusa I hope Honourable Members we are together as go tsenya letsenonyana mo COVID are allowed to Honourable Motsamai eloquently put his case for donate gore Goromente a kgone go reka melemo e ka permission that he should bring a Motion basically to ask dipalo tse dintsinyana. Jaanong ke ne ke belaela gore Government to allow the private sector, especially the gongwe mogolole Rre Motsamai o lebetse dikarabo tse medical health institutions, to help in securing COVID re ntseng re di fiwa fela go tswa fa moragonyana fale vaccines on behalf of their clients. If anybody wanted to say anything, it would be the Ministry of Health before mabapi le tsamaiso ya theko ya melemo e. Mme se a I put the final question. se buang ke se ke se lebogelang gore a re fa melemo e tla, ba ka letlelelwa gore ba kgone go thusa ka go kenta MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR batho ba bone gone foo, which is already in place jaaka DIKOLOTI): Thank you Mr Speaker. Ke re Motsamaisa Honourable Minister a sa tswa go tlhalosa. So tota ga Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente ga re dumalane le gore Rre ke bone re tshwanetse go dia nako e ntsi in debating Motsamai a tle ka Tshutiso e re emise ditsamaiso tsa this Motion as it is ka gore o bua ka selo se se setseng Palamente mo letsatsing la gompieno gore re bue ka se ntse se diragala. Ke tsaya gore Honourable Speaker gone ka gore kgang e ke e e leng gore the Government fa o akanya ditlamelo tse dingwe tsa botsogo fela jaaka already has a policy in position which exists and it is ventilators and whatsoever they can purchase kwa ba already being applied. We have the Public Private batlang teng nako e nngwe le e nngwe. The only thing Partnership (PPP) Policy e e leng gore re le ba Health se e leng gore it is allowed gore se rekwe ke mebuso re tswa kgakala re ntse re tshela le yone kana re e dirisa. ke melemo, but any other medical equipment e ba e

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tlhokang as private companies, as whoever they can re re re kopa waiver gore re le lefatshe la Botswana, simply go out and buy on their own without Goromente batho ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi ba ba re thuse. gore a bo a ba kgoreletsa ka tsela nngwe fela. E bile le bone ba lephata le la botsogo la World Health Re ka dira jang Mr Speaker? Re ka dira gore go bo gotwe Organisation (WHO) ba dirile jaana deliberately gore mme le le Goromente wa Botswana, supervise, le bone go se ka ga nna gore bangwe le bangwe jaanong ba gore melemo eo ga e tsene mo diatleng di sele kana ga kgoreletsa mebuso gore e bone. Kana fa e tswa fela fa e e rekisiwe ka tlhwatlhwa e sele. E bile gongwe le lona le gore private sector ba a dira, bone ba ya go go duedisa le ka dira jang? Rona re le Goromente wa Botswana we madi a wena o senang one, but fa e le kwa mebusong can monitor, ra bona gore batho ba ba kenta batho ba ke gone mo o bonang batho ba kentiwa mahala. Puso bone. Fa e le Debswana e tsile e re imolola mokgweleo, e na le thulaganyo ya gore le bone bao e a ba tsenya e kenta batho ba kompone ya Debswana, le Lucara, fela gore ba ka thusa gore go kentiwe batho ba ba kentela jalo. Kgantele go bo gotwe nnyaa, e bile gape le bone fa ba tlaabong ba ba kentela teng jaaka Tona a sa tswa ba kana rona ga re ka ke ra ikenta re le nosi ka gore go tlhalosa. So ka mabaka a a ntseng jalo ke ne ke kopa dikompone tse di na le bopelotlhomogi. Ba ka boa gape motlotlegi gore nnyaa o Motion was for a goodwill but ba re mme e bile gape re le Puso re le neela mekento e ka mabaka ao a re se ka ra senya nako ya Palamente ka gore le kente batho ba ka gore batho ba ba kopang go one, re tswelele le tse dingwe tse di setseng di le on the thusa lefatshe la Botswana ga se bo Mafia.These are the table. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. parastatals tse di batlang go thusa lefatshe la Botswana. A re tsweng mo segologolong sa go nna go ntse gotwe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, ke foo ga kana gatwe mebuso ga e letlelelwe. ke itse gore a ke a bonala, ke Moswaane. Dikompone tse di ikemetseng ka nosi tse Mr Speaker, ga MR RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): Ke a leboga Mr ba sa tlhole ba batla go neela Goromente madi ka gore Speaker. Mr Speaker, tota ka bokhutshwanyane fela re ba bone se se diragetseng gore madimadi a ntshitswe tshwanelwa ke gore ka mabaka a mangwe re nne re ntsha ba mo neetse, fa ba botsa gore a kae gatwe nnyaa madi mebala e ya dipolotiki re lebelela motho; mosadimogolo e bile a fedile. Dilo tse ga se gore batho ba ga ba bone. le monana yo o kwa lelwapeng ba ba re tlisitseng mo They want to be accountable gore we want to buy Palamenteng. Mogopolo wa ga Motsamai o tlhamaletse directly kwa go rekwang teng, re bo re thusa batho, go fela e bile go tswa kwa goo-Lowe, this is something na le gore re neele motho yo mongwe madi. that is not in place. We are requesting gore mme ka jalo Jaanong ka re Mr Speaker, golo mo go ka kgonagala, ga a batho ba private sector ba tswele kwa ntle, ba thuse se mo gotweng go thata. Ga go batle ngaka ya Setswana, mebuso e ya rona. Ba re thusa jang? Ka gore le bone sangoma kana gore yo mongwe a re ke moDomkrag ba letlelelwe. Jaanong ke selo fela se se motlhofo, ga kana moUDC. Bagaetsho, a re tshwaraganeleng mathata se thata. Fa e le gore Puso ya ga Domkrag ya re nnyaa a bolwetse jo. Re Batswana, re emetse Batswana. A re go santse go sa letlelelwe gore go dirwe jalo, there is tsweng mo mogopolong wa gore gatwe go a twe. nothing wrong gore re ka amogela mogopolo o, re bo re A re fetiseng mogopolo o, re bo re ya go kopa. Kopo e ya to negotiate gore bagaetsho, re na le dikompone tsa beilwe, go na le mabaka a le mantsi. Mma ke le bolelele parastatals tse ba reng ba batla go le thusa. Ka jalo ka ka le sa tlhaloganye; e rile fa dipilisi tsa HIV di tla, gore ke parastatals jaaka sekai; bo Lucara, Debswana, private sector e ne e sa letlelelwe gore e di reke kana e ba re we are available, re batla go sireletsa motho gore di dirise. Ka puisanyo e e leng teng e lolame, ra felela a tshele. gotwe nnyaa mme jaanong bagaetsho, re na le ba, le bone Jaanong re le Palamente ke gore re tsenye letsogo a ba tseye karolo. Ga se moo fela Mr Speaker, go na le re re bagaetsho, batho ke ba ba re ba batla go thusa golo mo go bitswang gotwe ke medical aids. Medical mebuso, le le WHO, re a kopa. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo aids le bone ba re le rona re batla go tsaya karolo. Fa re kgona go fiwa mo gotweng keprovision kana waiver. re tswa fa se se tlhokafalang ke gore re bo re rurifaletsa MaDomkrag a ko le reetseng. Fa re dira jalo re kgona (assure) WHO le ba COVAX gone kwa molemo o o go sireletsa mosadimogolo yo o kwa lelwapeng, yo o go tswang teng gore ga re ye go o turisa, re ya to monitor tlisitseng mo Palamenteng. Re kgona gore fa re dira jalo re bona gore molemo o tlaabo o tsamaya sentle le go re bo re sireletsa monana le Batswana ba ba bolawang phatlalatswa sentle. Se ba WHO le ba COVAX ba leng ke mogare wa COVID-19. Ga go pale Mr Speaker, gore concerned ka sone ke gore kana ba bangwe ba ba nang

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le madi, ba ka tloga ba ithekela, ba bo ba ya go turisa tsotlhe. Le ne le tlhola le bona jaaka ba ne ba ema Puso melemo e. Mogopolo o fa re o fetisa re kopa special nokeng mo sengweng le sengwe se re neng re se dira dispensation le karolo e e tseneletseng gore re thusiwe, go lwantsha COVID-19. Le gompieno ba na le boemedi ba tlaa re reetsa. Go ye go nna le dispensation e e leng jwa popota ka lekgotla la bone la Business Botswana mo gore re le ba Botswana, re a thusiwa ka mogopolo o o Task Force e e dirang ditogamaano tsotlhe. Ke batho ba ntseng jalo. ba tlhaloganyang se se diragalang ka theko ya molemo le go lwantsha bolwetse. MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi! Kgang e ya meepo ya Orapa le bo Jwaneng gore ba bo MR RAMOGAPI: Ke a go leboga Mr Speaker. ba tshwaraganetse botsogo le Goromente, ga e a bolo MR SPEAKER: I think I have got your argument. go simologa pele ga COVID. Sepatela sa Debswana se se kwa Orapa, se thusa batho ba Boteti, ba ya teng MR RAMOGAPI: Therefore, I support the Motion Mr go alafelwa malwetse a a farologanyeng. Jaanong ke Speaker, gore o buiwe. dingwe dilo tse re tshwanetseng ra di tlhalosetsa batho, ba se ka ba tsaya gore dilo tse ke tse di fitlhegileng. Re MR SPEAKER: The Vice President (VP) and then Dr Tshabang who I suspect might not agree with tshwanetse ra tlhaloganya gape gore e rile fa the private Honourable Member of Palapye. sector e simolola to test, re letlelela private laboratories to test batho go thusa go lwantsha COVID-19, le a itse HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR gore di ne di ntse di lopa (charge) madi a a kwa godimo, TSOGWANE): Mr Speaker, mma ke go dumedise, go na le a a neng a lopiwa ke Puso. They are in business ke leboge le mosutisi wa Motion o Rre Motsamai. Ga mo ditseleng tse dingwe. a molato gore a bo a tsile ka mogopolo o, o ne a batla gore a thusiwe mme re tlaa mo thusa gore a tlhaloganye Gape re tshwanetse go itse gore the pharmaceuticals le se se setseng se diragala gompieno. E bile ga ke bone ba ba ntshang melemo e, they guard against anything gore go bokete kana go thata gore Rre Ramogapi a bo a se se ka senyang maina a kompone ya bone. Mo ka tlhaloganya se Tona a neng a se bua. Ga ke batle go ditogamaanong tse bagaetsho, re tshwanetse ra itse gore bua thata ka Rre Motsamai ka gore Tona o buile morago in the corporate entities environment, go na le selo se ga Rre Motsamai a sena go nna a bua. Ke tsaya gore mo go fetoleng ga gagwe, Rre Motsamai o tlaa tsaya gotweng integrity, competence le effectiveness. Le ntse dikgakololo tse Tona a di buileng. le bona melemo e mengwe go etla go buiwa gotwe o o dira se le se, ka gore e laolwa ke mebuso, go nna le Jaanong ke gakgamatswa ke Rre Ramogapi gore ke thulaganyo e e tlhamaletseng. Le ntse le bona maabane eng fela se a sa se tlhaloganyeng mo tlhalosong e. Fa a fapaana le tlhaloso e Tona a e bayang motshegare mme go begwa kwa Malawi e busa melemo e mengwe gotwe go iponatsa, mongwe le mongwe, le ngwana yo monnye e expired. Fa a small private company e rekile melemo a ka bona gore rre yo ga a itebaganya le se se neng se eo go bo go sa nne le thulaganyo e e siameng, e bo e tlhalosiwa. Rre Ramogapi, ga go a twe go kganelwa felela e le expired, they can incur costs tseo. dikompone go reka melemo, gatwe thulaganyo e teng Thulaganyo e teng, e tlhalositswe, the private sector ga ya gore dikompone tse e bile di ne di setse di tsile, they ba a tswalelelwa gope, they are free, they can put their approached Goromente ka botsone gore ba ka tsenya money. E bile ga re a re ba tsenye mo letloleng la Puso, letsogo. Bangwe ba bone ba bua gore ba ka reka 50 re rile ba ipulele letlolo la bone. When there is an order, per cent ya melemo e ba tlaabong ba e rekile go thusa madi a bone a tlaa duelela bontlha bongwe jwa these setšhaba, 50 per cent e ye go thusa babereki ba bone. orders, ba itse gore ba dueletse bokae mo melemong e Ke thulaganyo e e teng e ba e buileng, e bile ba a e tlang. Re rile ba gololesege, be monitored, ba dira le tlhaloganya batho ba dikompone tseo. These corporate entities di a tlhaloganya. Kgang eo ya gore melemo ga Puso gore ba bo ba thusa mo mekentong. Ga ke itse gore e rekwe by an individual ga se gore dikompone tseo ga gatwe go thata eng se se tlhokanang le go tlhaloganngwa. di e tlhaloganye. Mr Speaker se motlotlegi a se kopang se a diragala, se tlhalositswe, the private sector ba a tlhaloganya, ba itse Bagaetsho, a ko re nne re bua mafoko fela jaaka batlotlegi gore tse tsotlhe ga ba idiwe ke sepe to participate and ba ba tlhaloganyang fa go buiwa dilo. Kgang ya gore the they are going to participate. Ba ya go baya madi a bone private sector e tsentse letsogo Mr Speaker, ga e bolo go mo teng moo. simologa fela re simolola go lwantsha COVID ka ditsela

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: … (Inaudible) … DR TSHABANG: Ke a itse gore ke Lelatisitwe. Kgang ke gore, ba ba kgonang gompieno ka gore go setse go MR TSOGWANE: Fa o paletswe ke go tlhaloganya na le a pattern ya gore some of the vaccines can be Tona, ga gona ope motho mo lefatsheng le yo le tla mo used consistently, some of the vaccines are now readily tlhaloganyang, le fa Jeso a ka goroga. So re go tlogele o available ka bontsi mo mmaketeng, private market ya ntse fela jalo. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Botswana must be allowed to purchase. Gompieno DR TSHABANG (NKANGE): Thank you Mr jaana re ntse re bolelelwa gore vaccine e a tlhaela mo Botswana, gore nnyaa go tlhaetse. Ba ba kgonang Speaker. Ke tsaya gore Rre Motsamai o beile Motion go reka a ba letlelelwe gore ba reke. Fa e le gore… wa gagwe fela sentle, e bile o tshwanetse gore o (inaudible)… ba kgona go ikgobokanya … dumalanwe gore it can be debated. Tota ga ke dumalane le Tona Dikoloti gore private market is disallowed HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… from purchasing vaccines directly from the suppliers, DR TSHABANG: Please behave yourself Lelatisitswe. that is not true. What is obtaining now ke gore, WHO Ba ba kgonang go ikgobokanya a ba reke, so that they ke yone e rotloetsang Governments to purchase, so that can help the Government to relief the Government the go nne le equitable global access to health technologies burden ya go reka. That is the essence of the Motion as tse di lebaganang le COVID-19 vaccines. Ga se gore we speak Mr Speaker. Thank you. go na le gore fa go na le that arrangement ya WHO, e ba e bitsang Solidarity Call to Action that encourages MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Tanki Mr equitable distribution ya the vaccines, gore mafatshe a Speaker. Ke utlwile mabaka a Mapalamente, mme ba ne a sa humang not to be disadvantaged ke a a humileng. ba bua ka mogopolo o sele ba sa bue ka wa me. In other words, ba ba ganang gore ke se ka ka neelwa tshono That does not stop private market to buy vaccines ya go buisana ba ne ba timetse, ka gore kana kgang directly from the suppliers. Governments are only e ke ganeletseng mo go yone Mr Speaker ke gore, a discouraging private market because ba ne ba re in dikompone, ba ba nang le bokgoni, ba medical aids, their own countries they do not want citizen tse dingwe ba ba kgonang gore ba dire ditiro tsotlhe go balelwa to jump the queue ba reka vaccines, ba bo ba tla ba le gone go reka molemo, ba letlelelwe go ntsha madi ikenta ahead of the larger population that depends on and order melemo. Ba tsena ka Goromente, melemo e Government rollout. goroge, Goromente should screen it a bone gore melemo The disadvantages tsa gompieno gape ke gore, the eo ke yone, it has not expired and when is the expiring vaccine is manufactured ka speed sa noga. Go fast mo date. Melemo e e bo e ka tswelediswa jang ga bonwa e leng gore some of the things di salela kwa morago. gore batho ba ba berekang mo dikomponeng tseo ba ba Verification le tsone ethicises they are always tested nang le tshwanelo ya gore ba bo ba ka akola tsa pereko and developed with time. Jaanong go na le chance le bongaka mo dikomponeng tseo, ba kgone gore ba ya gore private market when they can access these thusiwe. Ke balela medical aid le dikompone tse ditona vaccines ahead of the general population, ba ka nna mo teng. ba tsaya one dose, e bo e tla e re fa ba setse ba batla Mr Speaker, kana kgang e e ne e ka thusa gore at least go reka the second dose, the version or the vaccine e fa re re ga re a kenta kana ga go a thusiwa batho, re bo e sa tlhole e le the same. So these are some of the bo re bua ka palo e e around 400 000 ya population ya reasons that Governments are trying to safeguard, gore lefatshe la Botswana. Mo e leng gore golo mo gone go private market e se ka ya iphitlhela e setse e le ahead ka bo go digile palo go e isa kwa tlasetlase thata, gore of everybody, because go na le some gaps that are still batho ba bo ba thusegile Mr Speaker. there. The fundamental point is that, no one is denied to pay for these vaccines from the private market. So Go na le kgang e e reng ke rile dikompone di letlelelwe fa re batla go gana Motion, re se ka ra re, nnyaa ga go e nne tsone tse di tsamayang fela di ya go reka, ke letlelelwe…. tlaabo ke tlhakatlhaknya dilo. E builwe jalo ke bo Rre HONOURABLE MEMBER: O a re latlha monna. Motaosane le ditsala tsa gagwe. Nnyaa, ke sone se ke reng ba ne ba bua kgang e sele. Ke bua ka Goromente HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, mme o mo yo letsatsi le letsatsi a re bolelelang gore ga a na madi. tseleng. O e tshwere sentle Jaanong ka re a thusiwe ke dikompone tse Batswana

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bangwe ba ba nang le tshwanelo ya go dirisa medical Ke a fetsa Mr Speaker. Ke fetsa ka gore Palamente e aids mo go tsa bongaka le dikompone tse dingwe ba di ne e tshwanetse gore e se ka ya lebelela gore mogopolo dirise, jaaka ke buile ka bo De Beers Mr Speaker. o o tswa mo go Motsamai. E bile e se ka ya lebelela gore se ke se buang ba bo ba leka go sia ka kitso ya me HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso foo. ba re ke se se diragalang. Megopolo e mentsi e tsene, dikgang di le teng di le mo diatleng tsa Palamente, e di MR MOTSAMAI: Ga ke go letlelele. Mr Speaker, ke tshwere. Mengwe ya megopolo, o o neng o tsena o se letse ke ile kwa Charles Hill go ya to launch melemo ya molato mme e bile o thusitse batho ke wa ga comrade COVID-19. Fa re tsena kwa re kentiwa re boleletswe John Thiite go tswa kwa Ghanzi. O ne a tlisa mogopolo fela go tlhamaletse gore melemo kana e a tlhaela, mme wa Botswana Meat Commission (BMC). E rile re ntse go tlaa nama go kentilwe ba ba mo Charles Hill fela, re tsweletse re tshwere dikgang tsa BMC, Palamente ya ka gore madi ga a yo. Re santse re letletse palonyana mo letla gore a e re le fa re tsweletse re tshwere dikgang nngwe ya melemo that we ordered. Sone se se supa gore tse, o tsenye fela re leke ka fa le ka fa. Re mo mathateng. fa ba bangwe ba kentilwe, ba bangwe ba tsweletse ba Le gompieno re ntse re mo mathateng mme ke selo se a swa, mme Mapalamente a Domkrag ba supa gore ba ke neng ka se lebogela gore mmotlana o letleletswe go tlogelwe ba swe, Goromente o tsweletse ka lenaneo le tsenya mogopolo oo, mme e bile o thusitse batho ka e leng la gagwe le le tsamayang ka bonya jwa kgopa. e bile ke tswelela ke mo leboga Mr Speaker. Ke sone Mr Speaker, Mothusa Tautona o bua ka kgang ya gore se le nna ke neng ke supa gore ga go thona gore ke ne kompone ya meepo e e kwa Orapa, sepatela sa yone se ke ka letlelelwa. Kana seemo se ke buang ka sone ke tsweletse fale le fale, se thusa batho ba ba leng mo teng sa tshoganetso, sa potlako, sa matshelo a batho, batho ga kgaolo ya Orapa ka ditsompelo tsotlhe tse motho o ba a swa, ba a nyelela. Legale ka gore totatota Puso e ka di akanyang tsa booki. Ke mmotse gore a kompone e e romilweng gompieno le bone ga ba sure gore a ba ya Orapa e kwa Shadishadi, Mmadinare, Ncojane, Ukwi romilwe ke batho. Ba ka nna ba gana megopolo e e kana kwa Francistown? A mine wa teng o butswe? bolokang matshelo a batho gore e ka buisiwa ka gore ga ba sure gore a ba romilwe ke batho. Ba bangwe e Ba ba senang meepo ke ba ga mang? Ke yone potso e bile ba boletse mo dipampiring gore kana ga ke ise gore Motsamai a e ipotsang Mr Speaker, gore mogopolo o o gatwe ke fentse jang. Dilo tse ke tsone tse di ka dirang ne o tshwanetse go letlelelwa gore o tswelele o diragale. gore batho ba bo ba ka gana mogopolo mongwe le Mothusa Tautona o boa gape a bua kgang ya gore se ke mongwe Mr Speaker. Re bofeletse dikompone matsogo se buang se tsweletse se a diragala. Ba ba go boleletseng ka fa morago. Kgang e gotweng dikompone di kopilwe rraetsho gore seo se tsweletse se a diragala, ba kgaogane gore ba koleke, ga ba koleke mme ba utlwile gore ba mo tseleng. Ba bangwe ba ne ba tla kwa go nna ba re re tshwanetse go koleka. Mr Speaker, dikompone ke batho thuse. Ba bangwe fa ba ya kwa ba go bolelela gore go ba ba ntshang dithuso ba lebile gore a di tsena mo siame. Ba bangwe bone ba re, ‘re a swa re a nyelela mme diatleng tse di siameng. Ke sone se ke neng ke sa bue re tshotse dikarata tsa medical aid, re batla gore medical ka koleke. Ke ne ke bua ka gore jaanong e nne bone ba aid o re duelele.’ O a itse Mothusa Tautona, maabane ba ithekelang through Goromente gore batho ba bone ba jaana batsadi ba rona ba maemo a a kwa godimo ba letse heme seemo sa go bolalwa ke mogare. Moo gore letsatsi le letsatsi ba latlhela ma P10, ma P20, Goromente o ba tlhokafalela kwa Sir Ketumile mathata e le dikgang buile le bone, nnyaa ga go a lekana. tsa COVID; bo go hupela, bo go reng le gore ga ba a bona thuso ka nako ka lebaka la gore ditsompelo ga di Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ga ke na go buela ruri mme e yo. O tsweletse fela mme wa re seemo se siame mme ga bile kgang e ga se kgang e e tswang mo go nna, e ne e ke go gakgamalele ka gore dinako tsotlhe o tla fa o re tswa mo Batswaneng. Ke tlaa boela kwa go bone. Le bolelela gore batho ba Boteti ba a thusiwa ba itumetse bone ba itheeleditse gore charge sheet e nngwe ke eo ka mananeo a ga Goromente. Fa o re o ya kwa Boteti o ya gore Value Added Tax (VAT) e tsentswe, sengwe le fitlhela kgaolo ya teng e lebega jaaka Somalia, e lebega sengwe lekgetho. Jaanong go tsene charge sheet ya gore jaaka Mogadishu, e le kgaolo e o kareng e iteilwe ke ba boe gape ba tswalelwe le ditsela tsa go bona gore ba legadima kana tladi. Ke go tlwaetse jalo Mothusa ka ipoloka jang mo dintshong tse di ba farafarileng mo Tautona, ga o molato, ke tlaa go tlwaela ka tsela e e baneng ba bone ba ba nang le bokgoni jwa medical aids. ntseng jalo. I rest my case Mr Speaker.

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MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Motsamai. Order! Order! Honourable Members, now I am afraid we will have to take a roll call. Can we get ready with our videos, so we can help each other if there is a problem in voting. Let us get our videos and our thumbs next to the microphone. Those who agree with the Motion will say ‘Aye’, those who do not agree with the suspension of the proceedings will say “Nay” or “No”.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT

His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama √ Honourable Kablay Honourable Kapinga Honourable Kekgonegile Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela

Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo √ Honourable Leuwe Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga √ Honourable Makwinja Honourable Manake √ Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi √

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Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi √ Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane √ Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Pule √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi Honourable Reatile Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando √ Honourable Segokgo Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ His Honour Tsogwane √

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le ntlodile jang Honourable Clerk?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ba go biditse comrade.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga go robalwe mo Palamenteng, fa o robala o fitlhela...

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa, ke ntse ke reeditse fela go raya gore le dira maranyane ga...

MR SPEAKER: You were not there.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Rra?

HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ne o bua ka phone.

MR SPEAKER: O ne wa bidiwa o ne o seyo?

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: …ka le boetse kwa go Ke utlwile mongwe motlotlegi a re diabe ke dilo tsa Motaosane, “Aye” le ka re ja dipalo la re ja le tse di mo bahumi. Ga se dilo tsa bahumi, ke dilo tsa Motswana ...(Inaudible)… mongwe le mongwe. Ke dilo tse di ka thusang Motswana gore e re kamoso a le mo mathateng a ya MR SPEAKER: Fa gotwe ipaakanye o se ka wa robala, go kopa loan kwa bankeng, a bo a re mme ke na le o ka robala ka tlhopho. security ke se. Security ga se sa ntlo fela. Diabe ke dilo ...Silence... tse di botlhokwa. Ke dilo tse re tshwanetseng gore re di bontshe Batswana. Dilo tse Mr Speaker, re a di bona mo MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, mafatsheng a mangwe gore ba a di dira, fela jaaka re results of your voting, the “Ayes,” 12, the “Noes,” 31, bona jalo bo Uganda e le gore MTN ba ba tswang South Abstain 1, Absent 20. The Noes have it. Africa who are listed mo stock exchange sa Joburg, e bo e le gore le bone they list kwa Uganda. Fela jaaka Question put and negated. ke ne ke bua gore gantsintsi, dikompone tse di tona, ke MR SPEAKER: Let us proceed to the next Motion. tsa telecommunication le mining. Re a bona fela jalo fa di tsena, le kwa bo Tanzania bo Vodacom fa di tswa PROMOTION OF LISTING IN THE kwa bo Joburg kwa South Africa, they list gone kwa BOTSWANA STOCK EXCHANGE Tanzania. Le tsone tsa bo Airtel tse di tswang bo India e BY FOREIGN AND BIG COMPANIES le gore they have listed mo bo Bombay Stock Exchange, BASED IN BOTSWANA they list kwa mafatsheng ao, di e fa benggae tshono ya gore ba nne le sengwe. Ke selo se se botlhokwa gore Motion benggae ba sale ka sengwe, e re fa kompone eo e tswa (Resumed Debate) mo lefatsheng leo, mme bone ba bo ba sala ka sengwe. A o mohumanegi, a o fa kae, ke P500 fela, mme dilo MR SPEAKER: Order! Honourable Members. When tseo re a di bona. Le kwa Nigeria fela jaaka ke ne ke the House adjourned on the 19th March, Honourable bua gore bo MTN. Le kwa bo Malawi bo Airtel ba ba Monnakgotla was on the floor responding and was left tswang India. Re ne ra bona le yone Choppies fela jaaka with 15 minutes 20 seconds. batlotlegi ba ne ba bua, e rile fa e ya kwa South Africa, le yone listed diabe tsa yone. Mo Botswana, re a bona MS MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): gore dikompone tse di tshwanang le bo Orange e le Good afternoon Mr Speaker and thank you go mpha gore tsone have listed kwa bo Paris, America mme mo nakwana e gore ke feleletse Motion o o botlhokwa o e Botswana they have not listed. Go raya gore ga di fe leng gore Batswana ba tshwanetse gore ba o reetse, e Batswana tshono. Re a bona bone bo Mascom gore have bile re le lefatshe re bo re bone gore o nna teng. E bile listed kwa bo Joburg, Nigeria le Uganda, mme mafatshe fa ke bua gape ka Tshutiso e e a re, “promoting listing ao benggae ba bona sengwe. of foreign and big companies in the Botswana Stock Exchange (BSE) to enable Batswana to acquire shares HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker, I am asking in these companies thus promoting Citizen Economic for clarification. Empowerment.” Tshutiso e e tlhamaletse e bile ke tle ke MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke mang wa clarification? e tswale ka gore, tota e supa one maikaelelo a go godisa itsholelo. Mme itsholelo e e tsene mo Batswaneng jaana HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR gore dikompone tse di tona tse di tswang kwa ntle tse di TSOGWANE): Clarification. Thank you Mr Speaker. tlileng go dira kgwebo mo Botswana, tse di tlang having Ntlha ya botlhokwa e o sa tswang go tswa mo go yone, registered diabe tsa tsone kwa mebarakeng e e kwa ntle, ka gore go tsaya lebaka to post, e ya gore diabe ga e re fa di tsena kwano, le gone di kgone to list kwa BSE se tsa bahumi fela, ke ntlha e e tshwanetseng gore e gore Batswana ba kgone go bona tshono eo ya go reka. gatelelwe. E bile batho ba rona, a o tlaa dumalana le Se re se bone Mr Speaker; re bone Batswana gore ba itse nna gore ba tlhoka thuto ka gore ke kgwebo e ba sa e diabe ka gore e rile fa go rekisiwa diabe tsa Botswana tlwaelang, mme fela le ba ba nang le bokgoni jwa go Telecommunications Corporation (BTC), Batswana ba reka diabe tseo, ba felela ba sa reke, bangwe ba sa le more than 45,000, ba ne ba reka diabe tseo. Diabe itse gore mosola wa diabe ke eng. Le gore bahumi ba tseo di ne di simologa ka bo P500 le P1,000 fela jalo ka rona ba dikgomo kwa magaeng le kwa settlements, le madi a a kwa tlase. bone bangwe ba ne ba ka kgona gore motho a ithekele

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seabenyana a itse gore fa a rekile seabe jaana, se nna se Re tshwanetse gore re rute Batswana ka diabe because mo tsenyetsa morokotso o e leng gore le fa gongwe go ga re batle gore e re kamoso re bo re re itsholelo ya nna mauba, a ne a ka tsaya dinamane tsa gagwe tsotlhe, rona e mo batswakweng. Re tshwanetse gore re tseye mme a bo a beeleditse. Ke peeletso e e tshwanetseng itsholelo ya rona e re e dirileng, e botsadi jwa rona bo gore e rutwe Batswana gore ba nne le kgatlhego le go e dirileng. Jaanong dilo tse ke tse di sa siamang. Jaaka tsaya karolo mo dimmarakeng tse tsa madi. Ke ntlha e o bona gompieno jaana dishopo di le dintsi, bo Pick n ke dumalanang le wena thata gore e tlhokana le kitso. Pay, Spar, Shoprite; they are not listing kwano, diabe tsa Ga se jaaka bangwe ba akanya gore ke dilo tsa bahumi. tsone di kwa Johannesburg. Golo moo ke go kganelela batho le go ba tswalela kwa ntle, batho bone ba tsweletse ba ntse ba ikhumisa, mme Ba re Batswana ga ba ka ke ba reka diabe. Fa ke tsena ba sa batle go bolelela batho boammaaruri, ba ntse mo Spar le Shoprite ke reke. Bone ba re ba rekisa diabe ba re nnyaa, dilo tse ke tsa bahumi. Ke dikgang tsa tsa bone kwa South Africa. A le rona re reke diabe. Re bogologolo tse batho ba neng ba tewa gotwe ba se ka batla go reka diabe ka madi a rona a re rekang ka one. ba tsaya loans, ba se ka ba tsaya mananeo a phathi e Puso e ba fa business ka dilo tsa rona re le Batswana. e busang ba tlaa ya ditoronkong, mme batho bone ba Jaanong dilo tse fa re ka ruta Batswana, di tlaa re boela. tsweletse ba ikhumisa ba tsaya madi kwa bo Citizen Businesses tsa dijo; Debonairs, Steers le ... Entrepreneurial Development Agency (CEDA) le kae MR SPEAKER: Honourable Monnakgotla, you are le kae. Ke tsaya gore ntlha eo e botlhokwa thata Mme supposed to be responding to the debate and not starting Mma Monnakgotla. Mme o baakanye senepe sa gago se a new debate. You have got only a couple of minutes to sentle seo, se go kgaotse tlhogo. Try to adjust camera move your Motion, so that we can put it to vote. ya gago. MS MONNAKGOTLA: Thank you Mr Speaker. I MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke a leboga Vice President move. (VP) ka kakgelo e e ntseng jalo. Dilo tse batlotlegi jaaka ba ne ba bua gore ke dilo tsa bahumi, ga se dilo tsa MR SPEAKER: Get your Motion and move it. It is bahumi jaaka ke ne ke bua. Ke ne ke utlwa botlhoko there in the Order Paper of today. fa Motlotlegi Mmolotsi a re dilo tseo ke tsa bahumi. Golo mo go supa gore bone bomme bale ba ba rekisang MS MONNAKGOTLA: Ke baya Tshutiso e fa pele, airtime le ba dimausu, ba re letseng re bua ka bone “that this Honourable House requests Government to mo Palamenteng, ga ba a reka diabe tse tsa BTC tse promote listing by foreign and big companies in the di neng di rekwa bo P500. Nna yo ke ne ke gakolola Botswana Stock Exchange (BSE) to enable Batswana bomme mo renkeng (rank) kwa gae kwa Kgalagadi to acquire shares in these companies, thus promoting Citizen Empowerment.” I move Mr Speaker. Thank North. Go raya gore Motlotlegi Mmolotsi ga a dira tiro you. eo ka gore seabe sa Telecoms, kamoso re tsoga re re Telecoms ke ya batswakwa, mme e tshwanetse go nna Question put and agreed to. ya rona; e le kompone ya rona benggae. Ke ne ka utlwa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go tswa foo le a go Motlotlegi Kapinga a re dilo tse ke tsa bahumi. E rile dira eng? fa re santse re le mapodise le Motlotlegi Kapinga e le Senior Superintendent, nna ke le Sub-Inspector, go ne HONOURABLE MEMBER: How are they going to go rekisiwa diabe tsa Game City. Di ne di simologa ka do it? P5,000, ke ne ka reka diabe tseo mme tsa nkisa golo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke go kgabisa fela gongwe. Ke ne ke utlwa botlhoko ka gore o ne a re ke Motion wa teng. ...(laughter!)... dilo tsa bahumi. Mme ke dilo tsa bo P500 le bo P1,000. HONOURABLE MEMBER: What is to promote? Ke ne ka utlwa Motlotlegi Motsamai a bua gore dilo tseo ga se tse Batswana ba ka di itseng; ga di a tshwanela. Ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker. ne ka utlwa botlhoko thata ka gore le bone ba BSE ba ile MR SPEAKER: I thought you are a teacher Honourable kwa kgaolong ya ga Motlotlegi Motsamai. Ba mo thusa Hikuama. mo dikoleng dingwe tsa gagwe, mme e rile ba tsena koo, ba feta ba tlhalosetsa le one morafe gore diabe ke dilo HONOURABLE MEMBER: Is it an action verb Mr tse di ntseng jaana le jaana. Speaker?

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker. of your proceedings but for you to go virtual. At first, we thought that you may be in your original Chamber MR SPEAKER: ... (Inaudible)... I do not know such a debating from there with the cameras taking your question. pictures and voices to the rest of the country and the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke gone o tsogang. world. We had never thought COVID will force us to hold Parliament from your offices, where you have to HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... operate these gargets which now and then, as you would have expected, will cut because internet ga e bereke MR SPEAKER: Why are you asking me such a fale le fale. I am satisfied that le rona ba bangwe ba re redundant question? neng re sa itse sepe ka dilo tse, we caught up so fast. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker. People will not believe it. That is why I thought it is proper to say thank you. It was not easy but you rose to HONOURABLE MEMBER: O ntse a rulela ga a mo the occasion. Le ka ikopela legofi ka gore ke lona who Palamenteng motho yo. were determined and you managed, all of you, it is very pleasing! MR SPEAKER: Who is saying procedure to me? HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Applause!)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: Palamente e a nyadiwa wa itse. MR SPEAKER: I said one day, mongwe wa lona o ne a re, I am clowning gore I would love where I can speak HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke Healy sir. to Honourable Saleshando a le kwa Maun nna ke le fa, MR SPEAKER: O ntse o palelwa ke to vote, now wa go tsena sentle without having to travel to Gaborone. re procedure. It is still a long way but I think we are getting there. Honourable Segokgo o tlaa nna a re tataisa le bana HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ... (Laughter!)... ba gagwe. I am sure we will get there. We know that HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ka re, a go tlhopha go other countries which are ahead of us have been holding fedile Mr Speaker? their Parliament on one day; half and half, where not everybody was coming to Parliament like we are doing HONOURABLE MEMBER: Monna Healy, gatwe o ka maranyane at the same time. Ba ne ba sa kgone. palelwa ke go tlhopha, o bo o tla o re procedure. Mongwe o tlaare ke ne ke seba. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... Honourable Members, I genuinely want to thank you HONOURABLE MEMBER: Hikuama o kae? O kwa for the positive attitude you exhibited. Usually I do not polaseng ya gago? want to show people that I am too happy, ba tloga ba repisa. I turn to keep quiet but I am happy throughout MR HIKUAMA: Ke kwa morakeng. ka mo le dirileng ka teng. Tse dingwe re tlaa di bua re HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke motho wa stock na le nako. exchange. Ke ene motho wa stock exchange yoo. The last thing segajaja ke seo bagaetsho, we have HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… problems. We still have four areas tse bo Dr Dikoloti, bana ba gagwe and the COVID Team ba reng they are MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members ...(inaudible)… almost red zones, which means that the country is not Motion... safe at all. So, as Honourable Keorapetse said, please try HONOURABLE MEMBER: Speaker o a bua, ga re to be safe and observe all the protocols tsa COVID-19. mo utlwe. Modimo a nne le lona le ba malwapa. Modimo a sireletse Batswana. Ba bongaka ba fiwe lesedi ke Modimo. Ka MR SPEAKER: …will not be debated today with tumelo ya me, ke ene a ka dirang gore fa go ka bonwa the two remaining minutes. I just wanted to take this kalafi kana mokento o o berekang, e tlaabo e le ka thata opportunity Honourable Members, to say thank you ya gagwe e seng ka botlhale jwa ga ope. Ga ke itse very much for two things that you have shown in the motho yo a ipopileng yo a ka nnang botlhale go feta deep end ya maranyane; not just for the broadcasting mmopi wa gagwe.

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On that note Honourable Members, I call upon the Leader of the House to move a Motion of adjournment.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Speaker. O a buile Mr Speaker, o re lebogile. Le rona re a go leboga. Batlotlegi ke tsaya gore ba tlaa tsamaya ba babalesegile kwa magaeng a bone. Protocols tse di re thusitse jaaka o boletse gore re bo gompieno re sa gasagasa mogare re kopane jaaka re ne re batla go kopana.

Ka mafoko a a kalo, o lebogile Mr Speaker. Re a go leboga. Go monate go lebogiwa ke Speaker kana. Jaanong mme le rona re a itumela. Re a itse gore fa gongwe re ne re go kgopisa, go makgetho a mabedi o tswa o re ngadile mme re bona gore tota re a bo re sa go tsaya sentle. O tlaa re itshwarela. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Ke kopa gore Ntlo e e ka phatlalala, batlotlegi ba ya go ikhutsa.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 12:37 p.m. sine die.

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HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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