Eighth Series, Vol. IX No. 23 Friday, August 23, 1985 Dbadra 1, 1907 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Third Session (Eighth Lok Sabba)

(Yol. IX contalM NOl. 21 to 26)

LOK SABRA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Prlcs : b. 4.00

CONTENTS

No. 23. Friday, August 23, 1985/Bhadro 1. 1907 (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions:

*Starred Questions Nos. 450 to 452, 454 to 459 and 461 to 463

Starred Questions Nos. 453, 460, 464 to 471 36-48

Unstarred Questions Nos. 4748 to 4986 48-304

Statement correcting reply to'Unstarred .Question No. 693 dated 26-7-1985 304-306

Papers Laid on the Table 309-314

Messages from 314-316

Appropriation (No.5) Bill, 1985 316

Leave of Absence from the Sittings of the House 316-317 Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions ... 317 Minutes of first to Fifth Sittings. Committee on Absence of Members from the sittings of the House 317 Minutes of Sitting

Estimates Committee ••• 317-318 Seventh Report

Committee on Public Undertakings ... 318 Minutes and First, Second, Third, Fourth and Fifth Reports Committee on Subordinate Legislation .... 319 Second Report

.., The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by,hi't Member.

(i) (ii)

CoLUMNS Committee OD Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes 31~

Second Report

Committee J)D Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Minutes of Sittiggs 319 Business Advisory Committee ... 3~O-322 Twelfth Report Business or the House 322-330 Lighthouse (Amendment) Bill ... ~31 Motion to introduce

Sh'ri Z. R. Ansari ... 331

Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Bm 331-332

Motion to Introd ucc

Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh ... 331 DiscUSSion Re: Report of National Institute of Public Fmance and Policy on "Aspects of Black Economy in India". .... 332-343

Shri Vishwanath Pratap Sinab 332

Judges (Protection) Bill 343-370

Motion to consider

Shri H.R. Bharadwaj 343

Sbri H.A. Dora 345 Shri Shantaram N aik 348 Shri Ama) Datta 350

Prof. K. V. Thomas 351 Shri Tha01pan Thomas 353 Sbri MooI Chand Daga 355 Shri G.M. BanatwaHa 356 Dr. G.S. Rajhans 358

Clauses 2 to .. and 1

Motion to Pass

Shri H.R. Bharadwaj 370 (iii) CoLUMNS Estate Duty (Amendment) Bill ... 371-380 Motion to consider Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 371 Shri p. AppalanarasimhaOl 372 Shri Ajay Mushran ... 37. Shri Syed Masudal Ho_ain .9. 37S Shri Rarnashray ,Prasad Singh ... 376 Shri George Joseph Mundackal 371

Clauses 2 and 1 Motion to Pass Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 380

Statement .Re. Elections in Punjab 380-382

Shri 380

Railway Protection Force (Armndment) Bill 382-388

Motion to consider Shri Bansi lal 382

Prof. K.V. Thomas, ~83 Shri Narayan Choubey 384 Shri R. Jecvarathinam 387

Comm~ttee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions 388-389 Fifth Report

:bills Intro~ced- 1. Freedom of lnformation Bill 389 By Shri Tahmpan .Thomas 389

.2. Constitution (Ar/ndmenO Bill 389-390 (Amendment of article 19, etc.)

By Shri G .M. B~natwalla 389 3. Prasar Bbarati (Broadcasting Corporation of India) Bill 390 By Prof. Madhu Dandavato 390

4. Constitution (Amendment) Bill 391 (Amendment of article 311) By Prof. Madhu Dandavate 391 (iv> •

COLUMNS S. Constitution (Amendment) Bill 391 (Insertion ofnew article. 15A) By Sbri Thampan 'thomas 391

6. Agricultural Workers (Payment of Pension, Fixation of Mmirnum Wages, Com~ulsory Insurance and Other Amenities) BiJJ 392 By Shri B. V• Desai ... 392 7. Indian Nationals Living Abroad (Representation in Parliament and State Legisla. t\lres) ..Bill 392-393 By Shri B. V. Desai .. , 392 8. Ceiling on Marriage Expenses Bill 393

By Shri B.V. Desai 393

9. Compulsory Population Control• (Small Family Promotion and Motivation) Bill 393-394. By Snri B. V. Desai 393

10. Ref 1qtiOD and Control of Technical Servicing Units BiU 394 By Shrimatl Jayanti Patnaik 394

11. Family Restriction Incentives Bill 395 By ShrimatJ Jayanti Patnaik 395

Code of Crimmal Procedure (Amendment) Bill 395-4S6 (Amendment of Sections 125 and 127) By Shri G.M. Banatwalla 395

Motion to Consider Shn Owalsi ... 396 Sbri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sait ... 400 Shri Arif MohaD1mad Khan ... 419 LOK SABRA DEBATES

1 2 SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Mr. Speaker" Sir, this is "Oeeta's Teaching/.1

Friday, August 23, 1985/Bhadra 1, MR. SPBAKBR : Whf"D her 1907 (Saka) name is Geeta, the knowledge would also be from Gita-Yatha nama-tathtl The Lok Sabha met at Eleven ()f ,una. the Clock I thank all of you very much. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [EnglijhJ Now, Question No. 45{\-Shri [Translation 1 HarJhar Soren. THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES AND COAL (SHRI VASANT THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN SATHE): JEEVE\1A SHARADAH THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL SHATAM. (~1ay you lJv~ for a hundred (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): SIr, years.) before I say that a statement is laid on the table of the House, may I wish [Englishl you many happy returns of the day? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE Slr , IS It a f~ct that today happens. to Non·llDplementatioQ of Incentive be your blJ thday? If so, what 15 your Scheme by Bolanl Ores Ii nlted, age? Can we congratulJte you, SJr '1 Keonjhar (Orissa)

MR. SPEAKER: Is it Starred or *450. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN : Unstarred qUtst)Otl, Sir? What 1S it, Will the Mlnitscr of STEEL, MINES Sir? The rulmg IS that no que~tion AND COAL be pleased to stat: : can be asked from the Speaker. (a) whether it is a fact that the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE incentive schemes introduced in mines When the ruling concerns the Speaker, in the country have not been imple­ the Speaker should not give the rUling. mented in Bolani Ores Limited, Keonj­ har district, Orissa; MR. SPEAKER: That is w)ly I asked It" Sccretaty-General so that I (b) if so, the reasons therefore; might not be cought in a trap. and

SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHER­ (c) the steps taken to implement JEE: But in any case, we can offer incentive schemes in the above mine our con~ratulations and you allow us to which is a captive mine of Dursapur do so. Steel Plant '1

[ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATB IN MR. SPEAKER: This is all your THB DEPARTMENT OF STEEL kindness, sister, these are YO\1r soad (SHRl K. NATWAR SINGH) wishel. (a) to (9). At. StatoQlcnt ia liveD b~Jow. AUGUST 23, 1985 Oral A1I8w,,, 4

Statesaeat to part (b) of my question that a (a) It is correct that tbere is no large-scale revamping of the plant and incentive scheme operating at tile Do lui equil'mtnt had been carried out a1001 Iron Ore MlDes of Dur Kapur Steel with extensive streamlining of the Plant. ehtire oraanilation. I would like to know from the Hon. Minister the (b) After the merger of Bolani amount spent in the revamping of the Or. Ltd. (who OWDtd tbe mines) with plant and equipment and whether it IS a Steel Authority of India Ltd. from 1st fact that eqUipment worth lakhs of January, 1979.. large scale revamping of rupees purchased for use in the mines the plant and ecauipment had to be site and the plant has remained idle. oarried oat aloqwith extensive stream­ If it is so, I would like to know the lieiDc of tbe eDtir-e organisation. The reasons therefor and the steps taken to industrial relations situtation at the make use of those equipments. minea also remained seriously disrupted on account of inter union rivalry, For SHRI K. NATWAR SINOH these reasons it was not possible to I do not have the figures of the eqUip­ draw up and negotiate on incentive ment in the revamping beeause this is scheme with labour leaders. not the hard core of the question that the Hon. Member asked. But I will (c) An incentive scheme has been certainly provide the information. prepared by Steel Authority of India Ltd. and recently received by Govern­ DR. DATTA SAMANT : The Hon. ment for approval. Minister has mentioned in his statement that the labour relations aJso remained SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: seriously disturbed and strained and that Ill" .. the Han. Minister has stated in his is one of the reasont for delaying the reply to part (c) of my question that scheme. an incentive scheme has been prepared by Steel Authority of India Limited. How are the relations disturbed 1 I would like to know from the Hon. Secondly, if the scheme is now to be Minister what the details of that implemented~ will it be given retros­ incentive theme are and by which time pective effect? That is more important, "hat scheme is expected to be appro­ because they have given more produc­ ved. tion during the past. What I expect is that the money should be given to the SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH : workers for the last one or two years. The proposed jncentlve scheme for and they should not be blamed. Is the Bolani was sent to the SAIL Office by Government prepared to do that? the Durgapur Steel Plant in December... 1984 and it was lent to the Department SHRI K. NATWAR SINOH 1 of Steel in the month of May, 1985. hesitate to speak about labour matten Now, we examined the report of the to the distinguished Member, who has Pla'ftt and we found some lacunae in the contributed so much to them one way scheme... particularly, no information or the other. was liven about productivity and pro­ fitability. So. we sent it bnck to SAIL. There are in BolaDi two Unions. The Clarification have DOW been given The melancho]y fact is that both unions to GOYecnmen t and we w ill now refer owe allegiance to the INTUC and the th~ matter to the B.P.B. and we hope situation got so bad that on one or two that the B.P.E. will let us have their occasions, pol ice had to intervene. 1 clearance very ,bort) y. have got the Jist of unfortunat~ incidents that have taken place. If you permit SHill HAAIHAIl SOREN Sir, me, I can read them out, but that it the HOD. 'Niallter .. ltattd in bis repl)' rather lensthy. ~ Oral Answers BMADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA)

MR. SPEAKER: You can live has been purchased hal not been ut ilised it to the Hon. Member. properly) but is has no reI evance to this question. SHRI K. NATWAR SINOH The latest incident \\as on the 29th I want to know from the Ministor May, 1985. what is the OMS per worker per da, in mining and what is the percent_ae DR. DATTA SAMANT : What of mechanisation by which tbe iron oro about the rstrospective effect of the is transmitted to tbe railway wagons by scheme? ropeways or conveyor belt system? SHRIK. NATW AR SINGH: -I saRI K. NA TW AR SINGH : do not have this particular informatioa. When the scheme is approved by the I and it to tbe BPE, we will look at time particular can collect it give Hon. aspect. Membor.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Proposal to Appoint Wale Boards (ut'" The Hon. Minister said about the relte of Bipartite Wale AarHlBent. this draft incentive scheme that It was + found to be defective in some respects *451 SARIMATI OBSTA and it had to be sent back and 80 on .. MUKHBRJBS: I would like to know how this proposed SHRIIND.RAJlT GUPTA: echeme differs from the incentive sche­ mes whi;h are in force in other public Will the Minister of FINANCB sector captive iron ore mioes such as be pleased to state: in Bhilai and Bokaro. Why could it not be made on tbe same pattern and on (a) whether Government are GO.. the same lines ? sidering a proposal to do away witb the pr.:sent system of bipartitc wale a,rcc­ SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH : menL based on the principle of colJectivo There is no uniform policy with regdrJ bargaining and appoiDt Wale Board to incentiv:s in various plants. As you instead; and know, there are two categories, mecha­ nised and unmt!chaniscd mines and each (b) if so .. the details and reasOlll plant has its own special problems and therefor? situation. The reCore, there is no uni­ form seheme. THB MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SHRI DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a} No .. The incentive scheme has already been Sir. introduced in the Bailadila, Kiriburu and other captive mines tbrouah out tbe (b) Does Dot ari ... country. SHR.lMATl 086'fA MY4-HBR­ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA JEB:hl view of the m-yPlk r.cply, I Bailadila is 110t a captive mine. would like to ask tbe YiDiatAr wa.,~ hc knows . that this que.tion baa arilen DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI out of the Ar )UIl Senpp~ CODilmitto'. Fifty percent is captiv~ and tift.)' percent recolXlme1.ulatioQ for appoiDtiDI W.,. is not captive. The Bolani iron orc Board and Wale COJQIDl.siOD in.tead of Illille was a private undertaking pre­ tbe bipartite DClotiatioD machinery ia viously. Now~ it has been taken over the public sector, ,ueh as JDCCI, N.1cC. by the Government of India. You have BHBL Joi~t Co~~tt~e etc.? Sioee b. ,nawcr~d to my coHeag e that the says: uNo Sir", which m~ tbat they modern equipment and ma.ch iner), which arc not con.ideria.,1DI1! bow whetber , Oral Answer" AUGUst 23, 1985 Ora I Answers 8

the Government bas positively rejected [Trans/at/ on] that? MR. SPEAKER ; One bal to surrender before a lady. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: (Interruptions) Tho Government bas not positively rejected it. The Government has b~en [ EngU"hJ making exercise to find out as to what SHRl INDRAlIT GUPTA would be the best method. The recom­ Recently the Chairman or the Director mendation of Arjun Sengupta is being General of the Bureau of Public Enter.. examined. Not only that, we have not prises had a series of discussions with done away with bilateral negotiations. representatives of the Centlal Trade Bilateral negJtiations are sLill in Union Organisations. I also have bad operation. the good fortune to meet him for dis­ cussions. According to him, the Bureau SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHBR.­ of Public Enterprises is in favour of JEE: I surrender my second supple­ replacing this system of bipartite a ego .. mentary to Shri Indrajit Gupta. After tiations and eollective bargaining in tbe all, he is the loint Secretary of the public sector by either Wage Boards or, AITUC. as he said. by some sort of Wage Commission or some such body. So, MR. SPEAKER: He has got his although the Mmister has said that no name on It. Even if I were to try, I final dec'sion has been taken yet, I would not have been abl~ to do it. would like to know from him whether it is under active consideration that the ~ PROF.MADHU DANDAVATE: system of collective bJ.rgaining and She has surrendered her question to bipartite negotiations should be given him. He will get one question due to up because Government feels that through that system the workers arc him and the other surrendered to him by her. able to get certain concessions which the Government does not like or which are not palatable to them. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: May I ask (lHe or two questions 1 SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: It is true that the Director General of the BPE has held a meeting with Shri [ TranslaMon] Indrajit Gupta and also with Shri MR. SPEAKER: I know that you Ramanujam of INTUC and Shri Pande. . will C0ver everything in one question. There was some consultation and our HOD. Member also Placed his views be­ before him. Here as I stated earlier, [English] exercise is going on to find out the Just ns they have three-jn-one, best method and no decision bas been we can have tWO-l11-one questioQs. taken. Before taking final decision, Government wants to consult various interests including the views of the PROF. K.K. TBWARY : Sir, Union leaders. So far as bilateral you expunge the word 'Iurrender'. It negotiations are concerned, as 1 have bristles with meanings. atated earlier, it is still in operation and no final decision has been taken to do SHRIMATI GBETA MUKHER­ away with bilateral negotiations. JBB: Why are you objectinl to it Proddction and Export of Basmati Rice when you have surrendered every + thinl? *452. DR. O. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: ,PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: SHRI SOMNATH : . ,You lot it back. Will the Minister of COMMBRCB BHADIlA 1, 1901 (SAgA) be pleased to state : country.. and in other countries where we have got trade links. So, because of (a) whether there bas been a Jack of foresight, carelessness and noticeable decline in export of basmati inefficiency of STe, recently Abu and other varieties of rice resulting in Dhabi cancelled the rice deal with fall in value of exports; STC .•••••

(b) if so, the reasons ther~of; MR SPEAKBR : Put the question.

(c) the latC'st statistics of produc­ DR. O. VIIAYA RAMA RAO : I tion and export of basmati. rice; am coming to the question. It has caused considerable embarrassment to (d) whether there has been a steep both the commerce Ministry and the and phenomentaI rise in price of Ministry of External Affairs. So, I basmati rice in the dCJmestic market and would like to a.k tho Ministry how if so, the reasons thereof; and much business we suffered du e to the inefficiency of the STe, and (e) whether Government propose to what are the remedial steps taken to stop of export of basmati rice pending corr~ct the defects. improvement in the position oflupply for public distribution system? SHRI P .A. SANG MA : The export of basmati rice is under O.G.L., and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN both private partie3 and the state Trading Corporation can export it. STC THE ~...1:INISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. SANGMA) : (a) to (e). has been doing some exports. The A statement is given below Han. Member referred to a particular deal with Abu Dhabi.. which matter has Statement been raised a number of Urnes OD the floor of this House. The matter is (a) to (c). Export of noo-basmati closed now, Before any shipment could rice is not permitcd. Export of basmati take plJce, ih e contract was cancelled rice during 1984·85 is estimated to by thl! buyer. So, the question of have been of the order of 2.42 lakh suffering any loss does not arise. tonnes valued at Rs. 1 b 3.03 crores compared to 1.42 lakh toones valued at DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO~ The Rs. 96.12 crores during 1983.84 price of ba~mali rice in the internatio­ . Production data for basmati rice is not nal market is more, compared to that in separately mint ained. the Indian market. The Mtnister has rev:!aled in his reply that we do not (d) and (e). There has been some have the production data for basmati increase in the domestic price of rice. Basmati Ric~. Basmati. Rice is not covered by tbo Public Distribution MR. SPEAKER : Did be ? System. There is no proposal to stop DR. O. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: its exports. How will the Minister control tho price DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: of basmati rice in India, without having According to me, the export of basmati the data of its production in tho rice in 1982-83 was 4. J lakh tODnes. country? In 1983-84 it is 2.46 lakh tonnes, but SHRI P.A. SANOMA: It is precisely the Minister has said in his reply that it because the international price is higher is 1.42 lakh tonnes. I would say that than the domestic price, that we export .. the State 'trading Corporation of India is not conscientious in its efforts, and is SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Which not keeping itself in step with the are the foreign Countries basmati rice is cban,inl pattern of production and exported to and the han. Minister has OODsumptioD of basmati rice in our laid in bis reply that basmati ric~ is not t 1 Oral Answ~rs covered by the publio distribution (.) whether it is a lact that due system. wIn the Minist.!T take steps to to mining operation of Paochpatimali see that the export Illarket is expanded, bauxite deposit in Koraput Djstrict; nnd that the growers of this rice are Orissa by National Aluminium Com­ benefited? pany. the water in river Jhanjabati flowing towards. Narayan-Patna is SHRI P. A. SANG MA : We export being pOlluted; basmati rice to various countries-in fact, practically to the whole world; (b) if so, the total population but our main market for basmati rice aft'ected therebY; is USSR and middle-east ~ountTies. Besides these, there are many countries (c) whether the villages through where we export it -like Latin Ameri­ which the river is ftowinl are also can countries and Western Europe as affected; (I well. (d) whether any survey has be. As far as expanding the market is conducted by the National A1uminium concerned, it is our constant endea­ Company to make alternative arranac­ ment to save th., people from polluted vour. water; and ( Translation] (e) if so, the measures taken by SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Government in this regard? I want to know from the HOD. Mirdstcr the reasons for not honouring THE MINISTER OF STBEL, the ~xport agreement entered into by MINES AND COAL (SHRI V ASANT the State Trading Corporation? What SATHE) : (a) No, Sir. action ha.i been taken against the State Trading Corportion due to which the (b) to (e). Do not arise. country's trade has suffered? SHRI OIRIDHAR OOMANGO : {EnglishJ Sir, like my question No. '4S4 P this is 'PFP'-that is to say, Pollution Free SHRI P. A SANGMA: S.T.C. is Plant. Anyway, Sir, I 8grree wIth the exporting basmati rice. reply. But I would like to know from the Minister whether be has seen the MR. SPEAKER: He says there is report in the newspapers regard:ina the some hanky-panky. pollution due to the mining operation in Pancbpatmali. He has stated that SHRI P.A. SANGMA: That is according to the presumption, there about Abu Dhabi, whjch was raised as will be DO ,ollutioB in the future bec­ the first supplementary-and which I ause of the minisl operatioD at Paa­ have answered. cmpatmali.

MR. SPEAKER: Next questioB. SHR I VASANT SATHB : This is Shri Saifuddin Chowdhary is 110t here. oa-e place where we have taken care to Now question 454. ensure that total envir08meltal protec­ tion is liven. We kaye aot Gnly COB."I­ Water Pollution as a Result of Mialol ted foreilO ekpert.a with whom we have of Panchpatimali Bauxite Oepos it in collftbC!Kation, especially, of France, for Koraput District, Orllsa preparina an environmental plan, but we have consulted BRlineers India Ltd. *454. SHRI OIRIDHAR and more specifically, NBLCO asked GOtvtANOO : Will the Minister of 'he Centre for BDVirOllJlleot and STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleated BcolOlY (INCOR) of the AnAm Uiri. to state: "fortity, Visa4d'.pa1flam te tet. tIP *e Ortll .4",w" 14

"tailed hydtoteeto.ica1 atudy of the (a) whether it i. a fact that ,rta ror ass_ina the impact 6f tninia. Z*4ia i. famous for its gold ornaments on the water resim of the area. This and IOId-studded 01 naments; study has brouaht out that the mining scheme proposed by NALCO will have (b) whether Government have no impact on the water system in the id _Dtified the countries which are good area. We are taking aU possible paying markets ror export of JndiaD measures to see that tbere will be no jewellery; pollution. Incldontally I may inform the House through you, Sit', that this (c) if so, the details of countries is not toxic material, Therefore, 'here to which Indian jewellery ib exported; is DO likelihood of causinl pollution in an~ the water. Cd) the foreign exchang~ earned SHRI GIRIOHAR OOMANOO: therefrom durin. the last two years? My second supplementary is this: My Question arises out of the repl, liven THE MINISTER OF STATE IN by the Minister. SIr, what is the THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE definition of 'Pollution'? Numbt!r onc. (SHRI P.A. SANGMA) : (a) and (b). And, Number two is this: If the Hon. Yes, Sir. Minister lhinks that the clean water ia being polluted due to the ""DIBI (c) Largely to VAB, Kuwait, operation and it is not pollution and it Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, UK and USA. is not health hazard, then, the question does not arise aad my supplementary (d) Year Value (R8. in also does not arise. The answer also crOl es) does not arise, Sir. 1983 .. 84 83.38 AN HON. MBMBER : There is n\) 1984·85 85.75 question.

SHRI A.J.V.B. MAHESWARA SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, RAO : Mr. Spcd'ker, SIr, 1 would like anything that cause toxicity in the air to know from the Hon. Mmister whether or in the water will be deemed as it is a fact that India is facing stiff pollution. Pollution has this concept. competition from other countnes in we are takio. care But to see that we the: field of exporting of gold ornaments. do not chok.c our riven or the Nala! if so, what are the steps taken to meet with the debris or the mud or the this chaJIenge? tailiol that we take out from tbe mining bc:cause that choking also will harm SHRI PIA. SANGMA : Sir, we the water that the people of the area bavo recently taken a number of steps use. So; that care also we will take. to increase our export of gold jewcH ery. We are giving entire environmental In the begtnn ing we dJd have some protection. We are taking special care problem because, as the Hon. Members to plant trees. Sir, it is a barreo hill, know, it IS contloHed by the Gold more or less. But we have already Control Act. Now we have come out planted two lakha of trees and we will with various types of sch:mes. Under be planting more trees and see that the new scheme, in respc. ct of gold the entire area is properly protected. jewellery where the gold content manufactured IS only 10 per cent value, Export 01 la'''' Jeweller, we allow the export of gold jewellery without any restnction~ and then sale • • .15. SHal A..l.V.B. MARES­ of loid jewellery is permitted in WAaA. RAO: Will the Min.ter 01 exibitlons oraams(.d 8 broad by HSEC. COMMERCE bo pleased tit state : For tbose who are participatinS III the 15 Ora/ Aruwer, AUGUST 23, 198' exhibitions . organis~d by tbe HSBC diamond was Ra. 1",188.89 crores and which is a public sector undertaking, in 1984-85.. it was Rs. 1,172.10 the 8al~ of gold jewellery is also allowi!d. crores. And then we have also organised a scheme where" the lold jewellery against gold supplied by the foreian SHRIO.G. SWELL: He has not buyer is aJso allowed. LIke that there answered my question-whether the are a few other schemes Rnd of late, we raids have affected the trade, whether have also decided to set up jewellery the export of diamond has fallen. That complexes in Jaipur, Bombay, Madras, my question. Str. Calcutta and New Delhi. SHRI P.A. SANGMA: Sir, there SHRI A.J.V.B. MAHBSWARA has been a slight fall, of course, RAO : The Indian artisans are known compared to 1983-1984 and 1985. the world over for their craftsmansh:p, Bu"t it is quite a marginal one. but they are very poor. Is Government taking steps to improve their Jot so SHRI C. MADHAV REDD! that they can improve their skill ? Has it come to the notice of the Government that large scale smuggling SHRI P.A. SANGMA: I think of these ornaments IS going on from our gold jewellery is certainly in the small country and if so, what steps have been scale sector and a lot of people are taken to check it? employed in this industry and the efforts that we are making and the steps SHRI P.A. SANGMA: I think it we have taken to promot e go ld is the duty of the Finance MInIstry to jewellery export will certainly help answer this question. those artisans. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: He SHRI G.O. SWELL: I would like only deals with exports, Sir, not In to know, Sir, ",h~ther Indian·cut diam­ smugglmg. onds constitute a most important export of jewellery abroad and IS a good Dfclaration of Ag'lrdanda In Maharashlra marke~. 8' a Customs Port for Ship-Breaking PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : *456. SHRI S.O. oHOLAP : Will Mostly to Burma, I think. the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleased to stat~ : SHRI G.O. SWELL: No, no, Burope-U.S.A. (a) whether Government of Maharat$htra have requested for declara­ I would like to know whether the tion of Agard,lnda as the customs port Minister has includ(d in his answer the for ship-breaking; expor4- of diamonds, and if so how much of diamonds was exported last year, (b) whether Government are whether the raid has affected this trade aware that ship-breaking work is held and what is the earning from diamonds up for declaration of the port as a last year and t his year. customs port;

SHRI P.A. SANOMA: Sir, the (c;) if so, the reasons why the figure which I have furnished does not matter is being delayed; and include the export filure of diamonds, In fact diamond is our largest single (d) when Agardanda is likely to jeweU:ry item v.here we carned foreign be declared as the eustoms 'Port for c"change. In 1983-84 O\lr export of ship-breakin,? BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) OrfJ/ Answ~rs 18

THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN AN HON. MEMBER: It should THB DEPARTMENT OF STEBL be transferred to Finance.

MR. SPEAKER: It was a voluntary (c) and (d). It haa not been pos... effort on his part. The question is : sible to declare Port of Agardenda as a Who will take it up? I have no objec­ CUltoms Port for ship.. breakinl due to tion, if you wan t to take up tbi. Don-availability of adequale customs­ Question. facilitios. SHRI K. NAT\VAR SINGH: We SHRI S.O. OHOLAP : I would are in touch with the Ministry or like to know what are the requirements Finance and we have made a suggestion of the customs facilities required and to them ... (Interruptions) who ,has to create the facilities. MR. SPEAKER : You are already touching him. SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH: The Department of Revenue under the SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH: The Ministry of Finance is the appropriate relationship here is fraternal. What I authority for declaring a port as customs am suggesting is this. We have asked port. The Ministry of Steel has recom­ the Ministry of Finance to look at the mended to the Department of Revenue proposals as to wheth:r the customs that Alardenda should be declared a officials from Bombay can be deputed to pod for the purpose of ship-breaking Agardanda and clear ships. They arc and the Maharashtra Government had doing so in the case of Mangalor.: and made a similar request to the Depart­ other places in Karnata ka. So, I hope. ment of Revenue. I hope my distin­ this will be resolved between the two guished colleagues on my right will Ministries. agree to this proposal. Post of Chairman of Central Silk Board SHRI S.O. OHOLAP: This ques­ tion was put to the Finance Department. *457 SHRI H.N. NANJB Now, the reply is given by the Steel OOWDA WIll th.! Minister of and Mines Department. This Depart­ SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased ment bas given two ships for ship­ to state: bre,king purpose to the Development Corporation of Kokan and they had to (a) whether it is a fact that the pay heavy jnterest on these investments. Chairman's post in the Central Silk At present there ia no ahip.. breaking Board is lying vacant since long; allowed in Maharashtra in any port. Now, a8 this new port is not coming up, I would like to know whether the (b) whether it is also a fact that Government would allow ship-breaking the performance of the Board wal in Bombay port. comparatively better when it wu headed by a non-official who bad know] edge about the silk industry; SHRI K. NATWAR SINOH : I am aware of tbe difficulty that tbe Hon. Member has mentioned. That is why (c) when the said post will be we on our part made a proposal. But filled up; and the Ministry of Finance in their wisdom ••• ( Interruptioll) If you want the Minister (d) whether "Government propolC of Finance to take up this question at to consider appointing a non-official as this stale, I will bo very happy to sit Chairman of the SIlk Board in tbe dOWD •• , interest of the sUk, industry? 19 Oral AlUw", AUGUst 23, 1985 Oral AIIIWer.s 20

THE MINISTBR. OF STATE OF SHRI CHANOkASBBKHAR -nm MINISTRY Of SUPPLY AND SINGH: The interests of Karnafa1ca TEXTILES (SHIll CHANDRA­ are uppermost in our mind, but it il SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) The post of also true that the selection IIhoul'd be Chairman, Central Silk Board is vacant made keeping ill view the interest of siDce 8th April" 1985. the entire country. Even those who are not involved as the present moment (b) No such comparative asses­ should also aet involved in this activity. lDeot has been made. So this is the view point which is taken into consideration in ftnalisial the (c) and (d). Action is bcina taken selection for such posts. fo have the appointment order issued 1000 keepinl in view the requirements Cottoh Ret.irement (or SpinaiDI Mill. of the post. In Maharalbtra SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: Sir, *458. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : when the answer is inconvenient they Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND will lay no such comparative assess­ TEXTILES be pleased to state: ment is made. If you make an ~ssess­ (a) the number of spinning mills ment, it would be inconvenient because given licence in Maharashtra so far. you will have to rely on ncn-officials "ecause non-officials have performed (b) the number of these mills better in the Silk Board. So kindly which are the cc-operati~e sector; make an assessment even now and take (c) whether the production of immediate action. The Government cottOR is sufficient to mect the require­ Ihould not treat this port as Iratis or ment of all these spinning/ mills; as a favour to an individual. The govern­ and ment should understand the problmes of the farmers involved in this. They (d) if not, where from the cotton must also know the background of an will be brought to meet their require­ individual who has to understand the ment? problems of the farmers and others en­ THE MINISTER OF THE STATE gaged in the silk industry. May I know OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY whether the Government is considering AND TEXTILES (SHRI CHANDRA­ the appointment of such a person SHEKHAR SINOH): (a) to (d). A bailing from a State where the largest .tat cment is Biven below numbrf of farmen are involved in this industry? Statement SHRI CHANDRASHEKHAR (a) There are '10 spinning mills at present in Maharasl1ra which have SINGH: The Government ~ woul" not confine itself to an advice from one either been licensed or prrmission particu1ar State or two particular iss ued by the, Textile Commissioner States. un der the rules in force at various times. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: The (b) 51 spinning mms are in the problem is that mere than 8S per cent co·operative sector in Maharashtra. of the silk manuractund in . More than 75 per cent of farmers of (c) and (d). The demand and Karnataka are involved in this. supply position of cotton in the country The problems of these farmers are as a revised by Government anti appro­ better understood by the people ",ho priate steps are taken from time to arc rrsiding in Kvrnataka and who are tjmc to ensure adequate availability of involved with the farmen ,hue. Do cotton to t be domestic textile indus. the Government considc.r aPPolDtir g a try. However, no ccmplaint has been person from tbe louth, particularly, received about shortage of cotton from from Karnataka in the Int erest of the any ()f these &pinniDS mills in state of farmers and the ,ilk ind\Jstr)'~ Jdeharamtra. aaADltA f.a 1907 (SAKA)

SHRI HUSSA1N DALWAI : I the cotton growers to form cooperativos would like to ask the Hon. Mt.list=r spinning mills 10 th!\t the cost of whether thore is any tendency going on production can be reduced consider­ among the cotton growers in Mliha­ able? rashtra to.o in for lang staplo cotton because there is an expert m'lrket. That is why these mills will be g~tting less SH~[ CH~NDRASHBKHAR supply of short staple cotton. What SINGH: This is a good proposjlion, arrangement has been made in this but the overall capacity bas to be tak!B regard? in view before taking any decisioll in this matter. SHRI CHANDRASRBKHAR SINOH: AbsolutelY, there is no such PROF. MADHU DAND~VATE al'prehension at the present mom~nt. It i9 a very gooa proposal but a very The production in Mahlr8shtra itself is bad response. 17.50 lakb bales and its requirement for mills consumption is very low as compared to lhe production. The MR. SPE-\I{BR: Let us have l\Iaharashtra mills can get cotton from a positive response. Shri Balasahcb all over the country. It is not that they Vikhe Patil. hlwe to mlko purchases only from Maharashtra. [Translation] saRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Wbat is the reason for not allowing SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB long staple cotton whlch is produced In PATIL: In view of the increa,e in Maharashtra to be exported by the production in Maharasbtra, the farm~rs Government? in the State have pooled together and have started selling up more coopera­ tive Spinning Mills. But, due to paucity MR. SPEAKBR They want funds, these Spinning Mtlls are Qot more export for l'oog staple cotton. working to their capacity and a lot of dlfficl1.ties are being experienced in this saRI CHANDRASHBKH~R reg.ltd. As a result of it, the farmers SINGH: BXJ)ort IS decided up)n tak­ are also suffering 10s1 and those who ioa jnto consideration the dem'lnd and had pooled their resourceg in this supl)ly position and the price trend of endeavour are also facing difficulty. cotton. Toe Hon. Member and perhaps Thi. w.Jutd also have a bearing on the House are aware that we have cotton production. Will the Hon. already allowed export of nearly 3 lakh Minister try to mitigate. Tais difficulty bales of cotton. We had received aD of funds in Coordinati03 with tho other assessment of the Cotton Advisory Ministry? Soard only a day back and we are considering whether export can be step­ ped up. SRRI CHANDRASHBKHAR. SINOH: Tbis supplementary does not PROF. MA.'DHU DANDAVATB arise from the mlin question. But, wa Is it not a fact that if the cotton gro­ constantly revi ew the working "f tbo wers th:mi1'!lves form coop~ratives and mills to whom we have issued licencos start spiQl)in~ mills ill the vicinity of in the c~operative soctor and try to the cofton growing areas, in that even­ m ~et their financial requirements. A tuality the tran,port expendture i. few dtlys blCk, we had reviewed tho considerably roduc:d. The cost of w\)rking of the Mills in Mabarashtra production is also reduced. Taerefore, also, an1i in case thoy are faciQJ aay Ju,epilll this aspCDt in viow, will thl such diftllJulty and if the HOD. MQmber HOll. I(taitter live an assurance that draw. Oovornm 'nt's aUentlon to that. m)40 ellC~tilt'alo.Blollt will bo livOD to we aba.U try to look iot.o that. , ( , I ~3 Oral Answer .. AUGUST 23, 1985 Oral A.",,,,,, 2 4

[English] ions during April-June, 1985 have beea .. follows i Sales Policy of Steel Authority of a. India Limited Northern 49.3

*459. SHRI LALITESHWAR Eastern 15.9 SHAHI: Will the Minister of STEEL, Southern 14.8 MINES AND COAL be pleased to atate : Western 20.0 (a) the sales policy of Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL) ; SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAH! It is Dot a matter of statem ent ; it i. a (b) the reasons wh)' SAIL pr-efcTs matter of policy. The Minister should merchants and traders instead of giving come out with facts. Part (b) of my steel to ancillary and small scale indus­ question reads as follows : tries directly tbrough its stock-yards; "The reasons why SAIL preters (c) whether it is a fact that there merchants and traders instead of is DO steel available at Patna, Kanpur, giving steel to ancillary and small Bokaro and Rourkela stockyards and scale industries directly through whatever little production of thinner its stock-yards.'~ aauge steel takes place is routed to Bombay side ; MR. SPEAKER: Let us be very careful because he had been the (d) if so, the reasons therefor; Speaker. and

(e) if not, what are the despatch SHRI It. NATWAR SINGH : Bgures? The policy for distribution of iron and steel in the country is laid down by a number of government agencies takina THE MINISTER OF STATi IN into account the various areas into rHE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL which steel is allocated. He has speci­ (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): fically asked in parts (a), (d) aod (0) (a) (e). A Statement is given to certain information which is beiDI made below: available in the statement laid before Statement the House.

(a) & (b). The sales policy of The Hon. Member asked, CCWhat ia the Steel Authority of India Limitt,;d the steel policy". He wants to kit oW • lives preference in supply of steel to with regard to the items that he hal actual users including small scale in­ mentioned, why thinner gaule steel il dustry units. Priority is given to not available. Defence, Railways and other important Government and public sector consu­ There are hundreds of item. with mer.~ regard to the sales policy. I can .lv. the broad break UP. but here I can live (c) No, Sir in summary form. There are four cate­ gories under which the Steel Authority (d) Does not ar ise. of India Limited supplies steel.

(e) The reference regarding Categtry 'A' includes Iteel plantl, thinnor gauge steel is presumable to Defence, Railways, irrigation schemel, coils and sheets. The percentale of public sector units, heavy enlincerin, Iupplies of theso materials to four rer units, CPWD, P " T. ONGC. ct~. Category 'B' supplies to State and Corporations did not get steel from our Central Government power projects! stock-yards. He has made a general undertakings, Muaicipal Corporations, statement. At some places, the supplies Municipalities, Zilla Parishads, Power are less whereas at some places the Projects, etc. 8uppliJi are more. (Int~rruptlonJ) Please listen. 1 have been to 4 to S Category 'c' includes other lara" stocks-yards including Jaipur and some and medium sectors, eligible small scale others. One of tbe reasons for tbis is industries, public utility services liko that we have a great shortage of pieco­ charitable and non-profit making organi­ meal rail wagons. We need 30 per sations, hospitals religious institutions, cent, al 70 per cent is sent in rake. social welfare organisations, etc. and the rest 30 p~r cent in rall walona. If wc get only 20 per cent wagons, tho stock are not lifted. In a certain month, Cetegory 'D' includes all othor at a certain place, the demand for a eligibl e conc;umers not included in tbo particular item is more whereas the above list. demand for the same item at other places is low. We have always made SHRI LALtTESHWAR SHAHI : efforts to supply a particular item when­ Tbe small scale and ancillary industries ever we are told that item is in short come under, in this categorisation, supply in a particular place. You may category 'e'. May question is whether bring to our notice jf a p~rticular place

SAIL prefers-or passes on to mer" 0.' 0 •• 0 •• (InterruptionJ) they get supplies chants and traders instead of giving tbe from two sources-one from the stock­ steel to small scale industries on the yards and the other directly from u •• basis of theIr requirement. That has not Action on our part is limited so far as been answered. the States are concerned. Our staff work in our own stock·yards. At lome SHRI K NATWAR SINGH places. we have got our own stock· Small scale umts are expected to get yards, whereas at some other place their requirements through their respec­ TISeO has Its own stock=yards, on tive State Sm.111 Industries Corporations whicb we do not have any control. which enjoy Priority 'A'. However, small scale units having a quarterly SHRI HAFIZ MOHO. SIDDIQ: off-take of more than 100 tonnes cnn Hon. Speaker, Sir, brass·wares are take the supplies either from the main manufactured in Muradabad, but raw producers or from the small scaJe material is not available there, as a industries. result of which its export is continuosly suffering. I want to know from the [ Trans/ation] lion. Minister whether he has any scheme to solve this problem. SHRIOIRDHARI LAL VYAS I want to teU the hon Minister that SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH people are not able to let steel as it is Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not in a position not available with the Small Scale to make a reply in regard to brass. Industries Corporations in the States. Here, you have refdrred to catclory SHRI BANW ARI LAL 'B' but the fact is that most of the steel PUROHIT Mr. Speaker J Sir, the of your Steel Plants and the eatire steel Hon. Minist er has fixed A, B, C and D for the Small Scale Industries Corpora­ prioritIes for the Small Scale Indu~tries. tions and is supphed to private traden As Shn Vyas has also said, steel is ~not whereby which they earn a buge profit. available in Na,pur. A small scale industry whose monthly requirement b SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH: In SO tOllnes is supplIed with Ii tonnes of his question, the Hon. Member ba4 steel. They say that they do not have alked whether Small Scale Industries steel. We want to briDI to )'our Dotice ,AUGUst .a~, 1985 Oral ~ru.we,.s ~a

this fact due to which tbe small scale catcaories referred to in part (b) soctor is suffering. You should pay above? attention to it. Due to non.. availability of .teel, thoy take rounds of Delhi, still [ElIg l,'sll] we cannot help them. The deterioration iQ Quality ~hould also be cheeked. How THE MINISTER OF STATB IN do the traders get steel when th'ir pri­ THB MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SHRI ority is low 1 You kUldly reply to this JANAROHANA POOJARY) point, we afe not satlsfi~d with it. (a) to (d). A statement is giveD below. SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH The Hon. Member bas asked a question StatemeDt about Nagpur. (a) The detdils of the Schemes for SHRI BANW ARl LAL PUROHIT: participation of the employees by pur. I have myself forwarded many cases to chasing shares of their companies were the Hon. Minister. announced in the Lok Sabha on 1.8.85 and copies of these schemes were laid SHR[ K. NATWAR SINGH : on tbe Table of the Hoose on the same You arc right; complaLDtlt hav~ been day. received from Nagpur and other places. We are looking into all these com­

plaints. The shortage I wherever it is, (b), (c) and (d). Government will be removed. have not fixed any limit of deposit to be made non-resident Indians/general Participation of Employees of Cem­ publIc and the company itself at the paaiel in Purebasing Shares in time of purchasing shares. While their Compaaies preposma a further issue of capital to + the Controller of Capital Issues, the *461. SHRI SHANT! DRARI companici should make a reservation WAL: of 5% of the further issue to thelr SHRI V. SOBHANADREE· employees/workers on an equitable SWARA RAO: baSIS.

Wlll the Minister of FINANCE be lTra'131atlons] pJeased to state: SHRI SHANTI DHAR.IWAL : Mr. (a) whether Government ha'le Speaker Srr, government have announ­ taken a decislOn to allow par­ ced a scheme for the employees to be" ticipahon of the employees of the come share-holders in their respective companies in purchasmg shares of their companies after buying their shares. I companies at the time of the issue of want to know from "he Hon. Minister the shares; the names of the companies which have sent proposals of the scheme to encour. (b) if so, wh"ther Government ago their employes to purchase their have also fix:d any limit of deposit to ahares for approval to the government? be made by non-resident Indians/general pubhc and the company Itself at the t.ime of purchasing the shares and the [Ell, Ii,II] ,ercentage of the shares to be allotted by the company to its employees; saRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : This is a Dew prQgrammc which has first (c) If so, the details thereof ; been introduc ed Weare at the beginn­ and ing stage. The second port of the ques­ tion I did not have because tbe Hon. Cd) if not, the reasons tor not Member from tho other aide iDter. 6xina the percentage in respect of the fered. BRAD.. A r, ttn (SAKA) Oral Answe1'$ 30

[1'rdnsldttMl1 m... naaements are replacin~ the capital management. In our country also it SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : 1 is bigh time that the representatives oi so may rtpeat that you may be able to the labour are involved in the Board bear. of Manasement so that they can better understand the good or bad of the MR. SPEAKER.: We Ihlln see it company and can work well. then; we shall cross the bridle, when we come to it. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: There is no proposal to enhance the SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : I limit at present for allowing the part i- want to know the names of the com­ ~ cipation of workers in the capital panies which have submitted proposals shares. So far as the second point for approval to lovernmcmt since the regarding the participation of workers ann our.ce ment of tbls scheme by tbe in the management, in public sector lovernment. undertakings already therc is the workers participation at the floor level [English] and also at the plant level. Regarding participation at the Board level, we SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: have already issued instructions in 1983 It was announced on 1.8.85. It is a new and we are getting the information scheme which is jUlt introduced So, we rcgarding that. do not have the information \\thich the Hon. Member has asked. So far as the private sector is concerned, it is for the private sector [ Translation] also to fall in line with the public sector undertakings. SHRI SHANT! DHARIWAL : Mr. Speaker, Sir /I government have not SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS fixed any limIt for investment by the MUNSI : Sir, the entire House is aware non-rtsidents, general pubbc and of the recent episode of the Shaw companies. May 1 know the rt8Sons for Wallace and Ccmpany and the noo­ this? Is there any scheme with the resident Manu Chhabaria's fraudulent government, whefl by tbe pt rccntege of dealing of purchasing the ahares, who investment for all categories in every is now facing CBI trial and lot of field could be fixed so that inv(st ment in investigation by the Finance Ministry eyery field could be fDcouraled'? also. In thIS background, may I know from the Hon. Mini&tcr that if after tbe [English] observation of the Company Law Board and the way Manu Chhnbaria purchased SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA the shares, he is f()und to be guil ty" and IlAO : HoplDg that tile labour part.lci­ since the Government has a \so got pation in the equity will live the equity in the Shaw Wallace company, workcrs a scnse of Involvement in the will (hc Government consider to convert 10s8 or profit of the company Md also those 38 per cent shares in the name indue them for better# cordial relations of employee. who want to purchase between the labour and the manage­ them to make the company fully ment, will the Government increase independent and in the command of this percentage from S to 10, in the the employees. If not, whether the cap ital issues, and appoint one labour Government themselves will go and representative on the Board of Manage­ tuke those 38 per cent shares from ment? Will the Government bring sucb the hold of Manu Chha baria and Shaw a leglslatlon or make an amendment to Wallace? the existing law. so that tbe industries and tbe companies are better adminis" SHRI JANARDHANA P()OJARY: tel'.d? In other toulltt1el professional 1 do not think, Sir, that tbis question 31 Oro' Auwer, AUGUST 23, 1985 Oral An,s,.,." S2

,riles out of the question. About the and the action taken asainst thom. lualestion of the hOD: Member, 1 have and noted it ••.••••• .I1nt'Trupttond. (c) whether their names have now PROF. K.K. TEWARY : That been removed from the blacklist? is a vcry important question. Sir ••• [English] (Inte,ruptlons) THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MR. SPEAKER: You can put a MINES AND COAL (SHRI VASANT new question ...... SATHE): (a) to (c). A statement is aiveD ( Interruptions) belows.

SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS Sfatement MUNSI : Sir, be says that he does not (a) to (c). No contractor was blak­ know of it. It is Dot eVen in know­ listed by Khetri Copper Project. ledge ••••.. (lnt,rruptions). However. business dealings with 8 contractors were suspended for the MR. SPEAKER Yes, Mr. following reasons :- Thampan Thomas. (i) In one case, for using less SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Sir, proportion of cement than that speci­ my questJon relates to the investment fied in the contract, causing 108S to to be made by the nOD~residcnt Indians the Company. working abroad. They are prepared to invest money in the equity shares of a (ii) In the case of two firms for company provided the Government unlawful possession of some copper lives them the incentive to get jobs for belonging to Hindustan Copper Limi­ their dependents or their nominees in ted. respective companies. SOJ I would like to know whether the Government will (ijj) In one case, civil contractor consider a proposition wher~ the non· \'tas in the habit of delaying work and resident IndIans my purchase shares of was unable to execute the work properly a company to a particular limit and and smoothly. get employment for their nominees or dependents. I received a memorandum (iv) 10 case of 4 firms, certain al80 in this regard. alleaations about mal-praclIces in contracts awarded were invesllgated by SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : tb: Company. In view of the suspected Sir, this is a suggestion for action ano dubious roles played by the partie•• 1 have Doted it. dealings with them "ere suspt:nded. Subsequently, in the case of two of [ Translation] these firms, foHowing a revIew, the Contractors Blach) fated In Khetri authorities of Khetri Copper) Complex Copper Project decided to give a fresh trial to them. *462. SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN : Will the Minister of STEEL, [ Translatioll] MINES AND COAL be pleased to state: SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, distrlcts Jhunjhunu

area in wlalGb lome people are iadu11inl tion. What do you propose to do to ID CorrupriOD. Will the bon. Minister help them? .,. ,leasH to .tatc tho circumltances wbich led to blackli6tin I of leven SHR I V ASANT SATHB: If wo GO_tractor.? What were the ~harles pump out tb" water, the water table .Pinst tbem. • bound to 10 down and it is a fact that the water table bas lone down. MR. SPEAKER. And what was The water which we had to pump out tb~ action taken? was suppJied to the l()cal farmers and was Dot diverted somewhere else. SHltI VASANT STABB: Yes, MR. SPBAKER: Whatever the Sir. Some of the contractor of thil requirement of water is" tbat Is for Khetri Pro ject have been found to be 'Khetri Project'. indullinl corruption, lome in theft, lome in lub-atandard construction and some SHRr VASANT SATHE: No, no to adulteration of cement. Some easel we do not require water for the project. 01 thia type bave come to lilbt ... , ••.••• It is necessary to pump out water in (I"terrl.pt lens) ... •• order to get to the copper and the water thus pumped out is supplied to MR. SPEAKER: The easel 'are the fields in the surrounding area. few; but the bUDgllng i, enormous, MR. SPEAKER: What will the SHRI VASAN,. SATHE: Strict local peop1e do If the entire water is action has been taken against such pumped out at a stretch? people. Their contracts have been luspended and an inquiry.. has been SHRI VASANT SATHB: We are ordered into it. They arc Dot being prepared to pour that water into the liven any further work. This is the wells if there J8 some me1hod for action which we have taken against doing so. thom. SHRI DAL CHANDER JAIN: SHRI MOHO. A YUB KHAN: Some arrangement should be made to Due to the setting up of this "Khetri see that the water table does not fall Project', the water level of the wells and that the farmers get water. ift the area has considerably lone down. MR. SPEAKER: Some arrange. Will the hone MlDister consider ment should be made to ensure supply liviDS assistance to the farmen of that of water to the farmers. If they pump ...rea? out water, they should supply water from an alternative source. SURI VASANT SATHE: ID this entire area, copper i. at a very low SHRI VASANT SATHE We level wherea. the water is at a biaher . shall take all posslble steps. level. In order to, set to the copper, water i, required to be pumped out MR. SPEAKER: Question No. and the water thus pumped out is 463. sUpplied to the farmers for irriaatioD ill the neighbouring area. We cannot [Engli8h] aet to the copper uDless we pump out Mushroom Growth of Private FI... ac:la. "tbe \Yater •. But, what happens during Institution. tbi. proces. in that the water level falls cODsiderably. *463 SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : Will the Minister 01 I MIL SPEAKE1\ : Investment u FINANCE be pleased to atate : :tie water table baa lone down, the :fir.... do qot ,ot "ater fQf iJ'tip· AUGUST 2'" l,a.

aware of the problem of mu~hroom R*rve Bank of I ... Act. 1934.10 arowth of privately-run financiaJ institu· far, the State Govet'ftmcotl 01 AttAb.JI tiOhS in the country; Pradesh, Madhya Pta'cab .... W_

o Benlal arc reported to have creat.. "'­ (b) jf so, th e number of such enforcement machiner,. ne .... as. It Institutions which have come up during being pursued by the ao.vo ... the last three years; of India with other Stat', Govorn" menta. (c) whether Government propoa~ to initiate an enactment to reaulate SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: the non-bankins financial companies to Mr. Speaker, Sir, I leek your protee.. pfeauard the interelts of the investors; tion. The statement wmch h.. been I'Dd made to the House do. oot Ilvo any categorical reply to my questioa, (d) il not, the reaSODS therfor? If you see the statement yourself, a04 if you are satisfied, I bave no questioa THB MINISTER OF FINANCE to ask. But the hone Mini.ter bas no\ AND COMMERCE (SHRI VlSH. given any reply to my question, The WANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to hon. Minister has completely evrded (4). A statement ]5 given below: the reply and he has replied sometbiDI else. " Statement . AN HON. MEMBER: You allow Reserve Bank have issued direc­ a Half-An-Hour discu8lioD. tions to regulate acceptunce of public deposits by the financial compamcs incor­ SHR! VISHWANATH PilATAI' porated under the Companies Act, 1956 SINOH ; I have already liven lb. These directions are, however, not reply. appltcable to othc!r unmcorporated bodies 1'ke sote proprtetorship concerns Dr partnership firms, whlch are not WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS required to file any specJfi~ returns and lnformation about ,heir number or the [English] .ize of public deP9sits accLpted by them is Dot collected. How~ver, with 8 E~P~Ddltore Incurred OD Carpet Wea'.... view to curb the magnitude of deposit TraiDIDI Scheme b,. Devele,... , acceptance activities of tbese bodies" a Comm~.JoDer (Hudler.'''') Dew Ch'lpter III C has already been incorporated in the Reserve Bank of *453 SHRI SAIPUDDIN CHOW" India Act, 1934 through the ~nactment DHAR Y : Will tbo Mini.ter of of Bankmg Laws (Amendment) Act, SUPpLY AND TEXTILES be p1~~ 1983. In terms of the provisions of to stare: the said chapt er" which have come mto force with effect from 15.12.1984" (a) the expe9diture incurred frQJD unincorporated bodies, individuals etc. July, 1983 to June. 198$ on the ",pot are prohibited f. om accePting deposits weaving training scheme by tho OBice from more than the number of dcposi .. of the Development ComQliaaioDOI' tors specified thettin. • . (Handicrafts) :

2. The Reserve Bank of India had, (b) whether any porio4iQ ...... in February, 1984, advised all the State rnent thereof baa boen auado i Government/Umon Terrjtories to create necesRary enforcemC'nt ma~hinery m the (c) tho number of trainees who respective States/Union Territories with have received trainiDl durin, tilt period a view to investiaatiol into violations of from July.. 1983 to Juno. 1985 aa4 , •• 'he provision, of $cctiOD 45-S or the Il\lmber Or CODtf" IIIlQtiOOM ..... BHApRA 1, i'07 (SAKd) W,Jtt~n Anlwerl jj

au ..... of eentrea actually fUllctioned taken to step up export qf such items: 4utkat tbe .lIie period ; and

(d) tbe extent of authenticity (d) if so, the detaiJs thereof '!

attributed to such 8I1cssment(s) ; and ~ 'PRE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND (e) whether the expenditure on the TEXTILES (SHRI CHANDRA­ .Cherne has been found to be useful and SHBKHARrSINOH) : (a) The impor­ ., lOt tbe ektent thereof 1 tant countrios to which Indian art metal­ wares. including brass and bell metal tHE MINISTER OF STATE OP artwares, are exported are U.S.A., TftB MINISTR.Y OF SUPPLY AND USSR, Saudi Arabia. West Germany, ttX11LBS (SHRt CHANDRA­ U.K., France, Italy, Canada, Australia, SHBttRAR SINGH) : (a) Rs. 1031.92 Netherlands, Sweden, Kuwait.. Don­ tlkbs. mark, Singapore and Belgium. (b) Yea, Sir. (b) Th" value of exports of art­ (c) (1) No. of trainees who metalware. includiflg bras. aDd bell have received train­ m;tal artwares during the last three Inl dudDg the years are as under : period July 83 to June 85 21,493. Years Value in Rs. crores (Prov.) (2) No. of centres sanctioned 489. 1982-83 57.92 (3) Averale No. or 1983-84 67.23 centres actually fuuctioncd 459. 1984-8S 83.11

(d) Scheme Is reviewed every year Bxport data in terms of quantity i. oot duriDI annual plan discussions. and next available • . )'carta allocations are decided. (0) Yes, Sir. (e) The training programme was lntrocSuccd to train additional hands in (d) Some of the impctttant meau­ carpet weavina for boosting exports. res taken to step up exports of artmet­ :the eJq)or~ of hand knotted carpets alwares inaluding brass and belr metal­ have looe up from Rs. 6&.4 orQres 10 artwares arc al follows: 1976-17 to Rs. 157.6 crores (Provn) - (1) .. In 1984-85. A Metal HandIcrafts Ser\'ice Centre is being set up with UNDP assistance at II:spor. of Brall and Bell-·Metal Wa~. Moradabad to improve the quality and finish o( art­ "'&0. SHRI a.p .. DAS: Will mctalwares for export. the Minister of SUPPLY AND TEX­ rlLaS b. plealed 19 atate : (2) An export Promotion Council for Haadicrafts is b"inl let (a) tb., countries to which brass up. aftd bell·metal wares are exported; .... , (3) Duty Drawback @ RI. 15.80 (tt) tho ll\lantftie~ and tbe value of paise per Kg. is allowed tao _orted wates darin, each of tho against exports of artntctal­ t.,t tlr.. , ..,. • wares.

~(t) .....da ....."' .. ha•• b ••o (4) Under tho achome of Dat, 3. WrItten t4nlwer, AUGUst ".S, 198.

Free Imports of raw material. THB MINISTBR. OP $'l'BBL;

alainst REP licences, duty q MINES AND OOAL (SHILl VASANT free import of brass scrap is SATHB): (a) Yes, Sir. allowed against eXl)orts of brass artwarcs. (b) It is wrona to sa, thal 500 kiS. of cruele Uranium hu been smoliled to Canada. The U.P. Stato (5) A Salcs-cum-study Team ~s sent to BEC Countries during Mineral Development Corporatio. November-December, 1983 to entered into an aarecment with MI •• explore lllarket potential, for MBTCHBM, Canada for carry ina out handicrafts including brass of a project under CIDA usiltanoe for and beU metal wares. ItudyinS the feasibility of beoeiciatioa of low Ifade phosph.te cl'pp'it' ." LaJitpur Distt. Under the t~r_ or (6) Mr. Robert well Welch, a agreement 400 kiS. sample of roc~ known designer visted India phosphate was collected by the repre­ in the recent past to provide sentative of METOHB~. Ca~ ,in tbo design assistance for artmetal­ pre.ence of officers of UPMDC aDd wares. the Directorate of OeololY ••d Minin" Government of U.P. The Uranium (7) Cash Compensatory Support content in the bore hole samples in tho @ 10% of the FOB value. is Lalitpur area established by the Atomio allowed against exports of Mineral Division is around .0005%. artmetalwares. • (c) No formal enquiry bas been (8) A special exhibition of handi­ conduct~d or ordered to be oonducted crafts, including artmetal­ by the Oovr.tnment. . \ war~s, was held at Doha during 1984. Amoant Sanctioned by Bauk lor lustalUn I Tube"ell. Smuggling of Uranium from India to Canada *465. SHRI S.M. BRATTAM Will the Minister of fINANCE be *464. SHRI M. RAOHUMA pleased to state: REDDY: SHRI DHARAM SINOH (a) total amouat sanctioned by MALIK: varioul banks for instalJinl tube wells durin. the yeafs 1983·84 and Will the. Minister of STI$BL, 1984·85; MINBS lIND COAL be vleased to state: (b) the number of tube \\'t!ll. installed durin. 1983-84 and 1984-81, (a) wh:ther Government's attell* . " ~ tion has been drawn to the news item (c) the details of placod wh •• appearinl in the 'Times of India' dated tbe same have boon inatatled , Blu1 17th July, 1985 wherein it has been • • ~ t' inter alia stated that 500 kg. of crude (d) the provisions macle tor .tti. ~ uranium has been smuisled to Canada; tube wells ip the Seventh Five Yoar • Plan? 1 I 1 (b) if so, what are the details; J '.1 THE MINISTBR . OF STArs 1M " THB MINISTRY OF FINAN08 (SHRI (0) . whether any inquiry I\a! since JANARDHANA . ,POOIAltY) t been conducted and if so, what action (a) to (d). The prese"t d;tta ,eporti,. has been taken by Government in the system docs DO~ yield information ,ID mattot? tho maaaor aetccl for. lIbw.vtr. the 8HADRA '), .,._, 45AKIt)

.tate-wise amOUllt of 10&11 of publ" I. Reftaance Com­ .=ctor banks outltandiDI.lainst tbe item mitted (Rs. in "Sinkin. aad Deepeninl of Well. and orores) 357 42' TUbe-wells'" as at the encl of March '82 (lateat available) i•• iYOD ill the It&te­ ,. R.efinance disbursed meDt below. (Rs. in crores) 242 312 NABAR.D provides refinanoe tor NABAR.D has reported that exact various mioor ~irriJation schemes, in­ cluding installadon of tube-wells. Tbe provision made tor jnstalfatioD of tu... Dumber of schemes sanctioned.. refinance wolls during Seventh Plan II DOt cOQlmitted, r~flnance disbur.ed by available. However, NABARD will NABARD durin. the 181' two yoan i. contipue to live hip priority for pro­ aa f.allows :- vidiol refinance to banks for develop. 1982-13 191'-84 ment of minor jrription, iDcJudiq 1. Number of sche- tube-weill durio, tbe Seventh Piv. y.­ mes sanctioned 184J 192' PlaD.

Stat__ •

(RI. in laklu)

State/U.T. Out.tandin, as at tbe end of Marcil. 1'82

I. NOR.THBRN R.BGION 2098.71 Haryana . 236.20 Himachal Pradesh 9.70 Jammu & Kashmir 0.10 Punjab 136.59 Rajasthan 1694.9~ Cbandilarh 1.0S Delhi 20.14 II. NORTH BASTBRN REGION 31.89 Assam 24.05 Maniput 0.40 Melbalaya Nagaland 1.5. Tripura It.20 Arunachal Pradesh. Mizoraltl 0.68 Sikkim . tIL BASTBIlN R.BGION 1197.94 Bibar 122.82 Orlssa 418.74 W.t Benpl 556.38 ~ Andaman " Nicobar ltlaa4s, . - AUGUST a3, I'.'

, . State/U.T. OutstandiDi a. at the end of Marcb, 1982 ------.------IV. CENTRAL REGION 3493.19 Madhya Pradesh 2784.23 Uttar Pradesh 708.96

V. WESTERN REGION 4'141.39 Oujatat 1043.90 Mabaralhtra 3067.43 Dadra &. Nasar Haveli Ooa, Daman & Diu 36.06

VI. SO~THERN REQION 2472.51 Andhra Pradesh 893.48 Kamataka 1229.40 Kerala 171.91 T~f1lil Nadu 171. 78 Lakahadwecp , Pondicb erry 6.00 .1\,11 India 14047.75

Glut In Internatklnal Coffee Market ( Tralts/atloll] *466. SHRI V.S. VIJA YARA­ Settlement of Inlorance Cla)lD. 0' OHAVAN : Will the Minister or BUlintss.eo. Factory O"nen, Ele. COMMBRCE be pleased to state: by Inlurance Compaliee

(a) whether there is a glut in the *461. SHRI lITBNDRA international ~offee market ; SINOH : Will the Minister or PINANCB be pleased to state : (b) if iO, whcth~r this is working to the disadvantage of small coffee (a) l whether some businessmen. Irowes in the country; and factory owners and captalistl in con­ nivance with officers and employees of (c) if so, the steps beiDI taken nationalised insurance c:ompani es are to remedy the situation? ine.ally receiving croteS of rupees in the form of claims; and THB MINISTBR'OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMERCB (SHRI P .A. SANG MA): (a) to (~). (b) if so~ the effotts be.in, mad. The recent trend in international by Government to stop it '1 marltet pricea is an indication that the world supply position of Coffee is THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN surplus as compared to demand. How­ THB MINlstk Y OF FINANCB ever 1 export auction prices are still (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): sbniftcant ly higher than domestic (a) No, Sir. auction prices ari4 will continue to remam remunerative because of regula- tion under the International Coffeo (b) ~ull. yjailance beiDI Aatoomcot. _, .. ~~ ~iDta~ed~ . _ [.INtI/." ] prodded for all viable activities suitlMe AI_t to tbe 'aym.at of BRA t~ I ...... for the area" ineludina luidance for the trial WorkUlla Mahar.latta Act, formulation of bankable schemes. The -main objective is to promote inl~.rate",. *468. SHRl SHARAD DIOHB : development of the villaae economy by Will the Minilter of SUPPLY AND meeting the credit needs of aariQDI. }fSXTILES be pleased to slato t turist.· and other small borrower&, 'do

j CIIouralc scbematjc lending iAstead of (a) whether iO'SDito of repeated .catter~ I eradina and to eft8Ure a better requests the Union Government have ,upcrvisioD of the credit. .119t aiven assent to "The PaymeDt of I ' p:ouse R.ent Allowance to Industrial laee•• Taz and Excise Dllt)' Fr418 Workers in Mahar.shua Ace' pasaed,.by Coea Cola Corporation 01 Indla

I the Mabarashtra LCIi41ature in itl budlct session of 1984 • and *470. SHRI MOHANBHM PATEL; Will the Manlster of (b) if 80, tbe reasons therefor ? FINANCE be pleased to state :

THB MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) whether I Income-tax and THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND EXCise duty are due from Coca Co1a TEXTILES (gHRI CHANDRA. Corporation of India which was closed SHBKHAR SINGH) : (a) and (b). doWD ill the year 1977; The Maharashtra Workmen's Minimum House Rent Allowance Bill. as palled (b) if so" the details of amount by the House of the State Legislature of Excise duty and Income Tax due: and reserved by the Governor for thq consideration of the President was (c) the reason for not recoverhVR received in Ministry of Home Affair. on the ducs t ill dale : and 11-,..84. This is under examination in consbltation with the concerned (d) the measur1;!S being taken to Ministries/Departments_ recover aJl the dues from Coca Cola Corporation- of India? Adoption 01 Villagel lor Raral De,e­ lopment by Nationalised Banks THE MINISTER OF STArE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINAN(JH *469: PROF. NARAIN CHAND (SHRI JANARDHANA POQJARY) P ARASHAR: Will tho Mlnister of (a) Yes, Sir. flNANCB be pleased to atate : (b) As on 30th June, 1985 a sum of R,_ 21.66 lakhs for the A$sess,-ent (a) whether the nationa.lised· • year 1970-71 was outstanding al In­ banks"adopt" certain villaps so a. to come Tax dues, ag,inst M/8 Co~ Cola promote rural development i and Bxport Corporation, New Delhi which wa. c;losed down in 1977. As reaal'4. (b) if 10, the main r_tures or Contr~l B'tcise duel a sum of Rs. 68.39 aSiistance provided by the banks to the lakhs on48ccount of Exci$e duty (1.Dd vilJag:s after a40ption ? Rs. 2' lakhs on account of panalty • . pODding recovery (com th IS Company. , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OP FINANCE (0) and (d). Income Tax duos (SH·RI JANAR.DHANA POOJARY) : could not be recovered because the (a) and (b). The nationahsed banks ~_ttor i. pendinl in appeals. How~vADr,I' adopt villages with the intention of aJ I etrortc are beiDg made and appro• ..4oina inteDlive lendiol in tbe area ~ pri~ts action the law 18 bein& takeQ .to to take special interest in the devolqp­ recover the; outatandioa dues. Con tr~1 .eD, of tbo vJlla... Tb, ,....,,* J. ~ilo 4u. oould ~Qt be r~or~ . AUGUII.. II; 1ft,

MeaUie the part, ftled an appeal­ the price fetched in domeatic aUcti9ll1• ...~ the orders of the Colle.aor of €otral Excise, Delhi before tb.e .[ 7,..,l1liI0Il] . CUlto ... Excite " Gold Control Appel­ 1•• Made b, N f\ ••R,.ktnt lat. Tribunal in J 982 and aimultaneou. _C.eat 11), fUed a writ Potition in tbe Doth'i lad la •• In Varloal Co.plrale. Hip Court. The Hon'bte Court h.s 4741. SHRI KRISHNA arallte4 Ita)'. The Compan, has depoe PRATAP SINGH: Will the Minister of ailed an amount of R.t. 6,OZ,132 with FINANCE bo plealed to stale: the aeli.ttar. Delhi hilb Court and taroi.beel a bank luarantee for th e (a) the) investment made by non. of rem.inial amount a •. 17,",901. resident Indians in sharca of various EtI'ort. arc beina made 'to set tbe stay companies durin, t be past one year V Katod and to aet the cascs decided at indicatina the total number of such aa earl,. date. companies; and 1a for Fixation 0; Prl.e of Co•• v... (b) the reaction of Goveromeot to this purchase of shares ? '*471. SHRI X.G. ADIYODI : Will tho Mmist-er of COMMERCE be ,lcued to state : THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE MINISTRY OF' FINANCB ISHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) whether Government are (a) and (b). The position (or the ••are that the present formula of fixinl period aince April, 1982 re)at;n. to minimum releale price by tbe Coffee inve.tmenJ facilities for non·r !sidents of Boarcl il disadvantaleoul to the Brower. Indian nationality/orilin 8S well as be"e the increase in cost of produc­ overseas cerporate bodies owned at tloD in the recent years as well a. hUle least to the extent of 60% by them for dilGOunt liven for lellin. coffee has which data is available witb RBI, il Dot been fuUy taken into account; as follows • and

(b) if so, the steps taken to No. of Amount ameliorato the coffee growers as majority Proposals (Ra. in crores) 01 them are mc~ium and marlinal Direct 1,..",,- .owera '1 m,II' THB MINISTER. OF STATB IN (proposal appro­ THB MINISTRY OF COMMERCE ved) as on . (SHaI P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). 30.'.8' TIle Minimum Releale Price only serves. On repatriation .. a pideline to fix reserve price for basis 520 .,265.40 domestic auction.. ot coffee and does­ 00 DOD-repatria- Dot reJ>resent the actural returns to the Uob basil ,rowerl which arC almost alway. hiaher Port/olio both for domestic ad exPort 'tales and /",,"m,.,,' (actual purcba.es) call be conlidered quite remunerative. as 00 31.3.85 OaIya VC'l1 small perceDtalo of cofree OD ropatriation II lold at discount. varying from 2i% balia 699 to '% for promotional purpose. in the 46.57 cIOmestic market and in recent year. 00 DCJo-repatria- .ucb dllCouot. have been reduced. lion balie 19' 0.30 Althoulh larler discounts ha¥tI bad to be liven OD export salel to oon..quota Tbeso iO\leltmeot. are within the para­ countries, thele are baled on export .etCH 01 Ooveromen* poll" on.. ttR'1 ...,.~~, . ..otioa ,riC", "lti~b .,0 IIt\rI, 4_1, ·... ".. U..P. Go,.... t 'or extended a loan of several oror. Qf C.. ,eNloB of O,.... ft lat. rupees to thd entrepreneurs apont«" LOllI Term LotIDI by SIRDO/SIRTDO operated by ~ Institute or Te~hno)ol~ Meara, a~ *'749. SHIll ZAINUL (Bihar); and BASlfE& : (c) if so, whether about Rs. Z.' SHRI O.M. BANAT· crores of the above Joan has become WALLA : bad debt due to non-functioning of the several umts of the SIRpO/SIR.TDG WiJl the Ministor of fINANCE operated by Birla Institute of Tea., "e pleased to state ; Dology" Mesra ? (a) whether Government have THE MINISTER OF STATS IlIJ received a request from Uttar Pradesh THB MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHlU -Government that the overdraft drawD JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yea, by them be converted into l' years' ]ong SIr. term loan and recovered in instalments; and (b) United Commercial Bank, Mesra Branch has extended 10an$ aa4 (b) if 10, Government's reactioQ advances totallmg Rs. 3.00 crore. to thereto? the cntf~prt neurs sponsored by Small Scale Industrie$ Research Training and MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Dev.:lopment Orgalllsatton which is, MINISTRY OF PINANCe (SHRI Registered Aljsoc,atton. JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) According to United Commer, (b) The Government have already cia1 Bank, In all 31 small Scale unit. were financed under the scheme. Tho decided to provIde to the State a Bank ~ expected to take all steps to medium term loan equivalent to 90 % recover the amJllnts as an oogoin. of the State's overdraft as on 28 1.198.s exercise. recoverable 10 4 years commencing from 1986-87. As the recovery of this I amount was already taken into account [Translation J while estimating the State's resources for Employment of Scheduled Tribes I.. the 7th Plan, the State's approved Plan Public Sedor outltlY would not be affected. OQvern .. ment, therefore, doel not cousider it necessary to extend the period of re­ 47 S 1. SHRI MOHAN J.,~L payment to 15 years. JHIK'RAM : WIll the Minister 0' • FINANCE be pleased to state : [Englllh} (a) the rea~ons for which positi", Loan Extended by • !\f.sra Draaela of in regard to employment of the person.. Ualted Commercial Bank belonging to the Scheduled Tribes iD the public sector undertakings is very 4750. ~HRI PRAKASH unsa I ifactory ; CHANDR.A: Will the' MlDister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (b) the total number of emPlo­ yees workina in these undertakiBp an. (a) "bother nationalised banks the number of the employees beJonliol aive loan to the entrepreneurs for start· to SchedUled Tribes out of them; ia. amall aoale industri es ; (c) the Dumber of Scheduled (b) whether tho Unitod Commer­ Tribe. employees working partlcularly ~lal Ban", Me.r" Brancb, '1\aQchi bM • io (i) Bharat Brakes and Valv~s Ltd. AUGUST .." .. 198$ . (U) ~,eJtbwelaht (iii) Bharat Pum})s and ever, shortfall. in some catelorie. of C"MQPl'easol'l Ltd. (iv) Rharat Procels employee. basically due to Don.availa­ 11'4 Nechanicnl Engineering (v) bility of candidate, with requisite II.D"P.B. (vi) Ligan lute (vii) Maruti qualifications Hnd experience. (viii) ScooteR India Ltd." (ix) Tun8a~ bhadra Steel Products Ltd; I c) to (e). A st)ltelllent indicating tbe number of Scb"duled Cast ea and '" (d) whether reservation quota Scheduled Tribes employees in the niles have been complied with in the concerned undertakings and their per­ tuukrtakinas referred to in part (c) centage to the total number of emp­ aboVe ; an.d loyees in these' undertakings is given below. Forma] directives have been issued (e) whether the Vdcant posts to the public enterprises, throuah the will be filled up by obsetving Govern­ concerned admin 'strative Ministries! ment rules while making recruitment Departm~nts, to ensure reservations in~ 6f such employees in future? '1 regared to employment (or SC/ST. more or Jess on the same Hnes as applic­ THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN able to filling up of the posts in the Tim MINISTRY OF FINANCE Central Government. The public sector (SHill JANARDHANA POOJARY): enterprises have to ensure that Govern- . (a) and (b). ~s per i'nformation aval1- ment directives in this regard are able in respect of 195 public sector carried out. However, wherever undertakings, the total number of instances of these instructions not being emPloyees and the Dumber .1of Scheduled properly implemented by the undertak­ Tribes employees out of them, as on ings come to the notice of the Govern-. 1.1.1984, were 20,62,,664 and 1,80,784 ment, the concerned administrative respectively. The percentage of Ministries, which are responsible for Scheduled Tribes employees to the tolal implementing the reservation dtrectives, 'lumber of employees was, therefore, are requested to look into the m'ltter 8.76 compared to the quota of 7.S per for such remedial actton as may be cent reserved for them. There are, how- necessary.

Statement

The Reprsentation 01 Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes as on 1.1.84

of. SI. Name of the under- Total No. of _ No. of % No. of % No. taking employees S.C. S.T.

t 2 3 4 5 6 ,

t. Dbarat Brakes and Valves Ltd. 998 52 $.21 S 0.'01 2. Braithwaite & Co. Ltd. 6065 480 7.91 6 0.098 3. Bharat Pumps and Com- preasors Ltd. 2104 304 14.44 3 0.142 4. Dharat Prooess and Mecba- uical Bnlineerinl 1330 148 11.12 V 0.52& 4- 5. H.D.P.B. Presumeable, the reference is to Hoolly Dock- yard Port Enlineerinl Works. If 80, information in respect of that undertakina i. not readil¥ aVailable. .. 'f~ Wr1l14~ A",":6'" BHAr,aJA 1J 1 ~07 (SArA) ;;'lll~" ;'",w6,i l4 " " ~1 ,2 3 4 5 6 1~

6. Laia,Q Jute 578 70 12.1 ~. 1. Maruti 66S 62 9.32 1 2."150 8..- Scooters lndfa Ltd. 3288 406 12.34 4 0.121 ~ 9. Tungabhadra SUlcI Products Ltd. 1321 303 22.93 34 2.31

[E",II,h] by tbe company in accordance with the guidelines issued by the Department of tuue of Convertible Debenturts on Heavy Industry which do not permit Lohia MachlDel ule of these advances as capita I aJthoulh a portion thereof can be used as wort­ *4752. SHR.I1SANAT K.UMAR. iog capital. MANDAL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) The company has a depolir of Rs. 109.04 crores as on 31.3.1985. (a) whether Governme It have cleared the proposals of Lohia Machi­ (d) The issue of 13.S%- nes Ltd. Kanpur (U.P.) to. raise 9,09,090 secured cOQvertible d~b:n" additional Rs. 10 crONS fro:n the public tures of Rs. 110/· each aggregating by way of to fUlld its on-goi~g tW?­ Rs. 10 crores IS to b~ made for clsb wheeler ve'ipJ. scooters project 10 at par to th" existing equity shue­ collaboration with Piaggio of Italy; holders as rIghts on pro-rata ba'Jis. Rupees ten out of the fnverted weighed with Government in granting into one equity share of Rs. 10/. eaQb this when this Comp1ny had approvdl, on e)tpiry of SIX mJ,ltbs from the date earher been permitted to f .. use large of allotmont. Tbe balance face valuo of amounts from the public by way of Rs. 100/ rem\ining after aforesaid advance agaInst booking of its scooteroi conversion shall be redeemed in three estimated at Rs. 11 S crore, ; instalments of Rs. 3S/-, Rs. 3S, and RI. 3o/-"'on expiry of 7th, 8th and 9th (c) the amo~nt of existing depo­ year of allotment resp".;tivcly. sits against scooter booking already in the custody of this Company after Problem. of Exporter. Chemica), deliveries of scooters and cancellations; 1 and 4 7 5 3. SHRI CHIN r AMANI lENA: (d) the mode of issue of this new aeries of convertible debentures and K.U~AR.I PUSHPA their period of repayment? DBVI:

THB MINISTER OF STATB IN Will the Minister of COMMBR.Ce THB MINlSTR Y OF FINA.NCB (SHRI . be pl.:aaed to atate : JANARDHANA POOIARY) : (a) Yes,- Sit. (a) the value of tho chemicala being exported every ,~r durin. the (b) Th'e Cqmpa!ly was givon yca~s 198Z·83, 1983·84 and 1984-'$; oonsent a8 the .uidelines roladn,· to debeature iS8ucs were latidod. The (b) tho maio problo';' beiDI booklni ad ••nclS woro to bo doployed faoed by tbo exportors Qf chehllcal8 • (c) the details of chemical. beiol Acid, Metanille ACicJ, Antra­ e"ported ; quincne Plourelcent Bd_b_.­ ins Alent. (d) the names of the countries to \\fllich exported; (III) Basic Inorganic au Orga"le Chemicals 1/lCluding A_g,.ch, 1ft I I (e) whether Government are looking cals: Rare Barth Chloride" Iron into the problems b~ing fac~d by the Chloride Ferrie, Sodium Sul­ chemicals exporters so as to remove the phate, Bleachinl Powder,1\lumi· conltraints the way of Increased .~IPort nium Sulphate, Calcium Carbon­ effort of chemicals; and ate Sodium Tripol, Phosphate, Red Phosphorous, Sodiom (f) if so, the steps taken in this Cyanide, Catalyst Chemicals, Meta Amino Phanol, Melnosium re~ect ? .. Dioxide, Nicotine Sulphate, THB MINISTER OF STATE IN Insecticides and Pestioides, tIm MINISTRY OF COMMERCB Aluminium Phosphide" Bndoaul­ (SHRI P.A. SANOMA): (a) The pban Technical. e.timated value of exports of chemicals are liven below ...... (Iv) Cosmetics and Toiletries: Hair oil, Hair shampoo" Toilet Soap. (Value in Rs!crores) Tooth Paste, Synthetic Deter, Year FOB Value of exports gents, Hydrogenated Caster oil, Henna Leaves and powder, De­ 1982-83 333.89 hydrated Castor oil

1981.84 5S3.20 (v) AgarbattltM 1984-85 619.16 (vi) Essential oils and Medicinal Herbs : Sandalwood oil, (b) The main problems being Lemongrass oil, Palma Rosa 'experienced by exporters relJ.te to short­ oil, Davana oit, Psyllium sced, ale of power, high cost of rciW mater­ and husk, Senna Leaves and ials, outmoded techllo}ogy, Inadequate Pods, Opium 1evel of expenditure on R&D by cbeml­ ~ industry. (d) USSR, USA, UK, UAB. Japan, W. Germany, Aden, France" (c) Chemicals are being exported Singapore, Nileria, Saudi Arabia, under six broad groups. The maj:>r Kuwait, Muscat, Australia, Sritanka add Items of export under each group ale Oman. li\'en below : (e) and (f). Yes, Sir. SpecifiC ,,, Drugs and Pharmaceuticals : preblems taken up through the Export Medicamants, Ayurvedic Medi­ Promotion Council afe attended to by cines, Medicinal Caster oil. the Ministry. An inter-minister.. 1 Surgical dressings, Papain, Standing Committee bas been set up to Suopba Drugs, SodIum 'Iodide, look into the problems beina faced by Selanesol, Beta lonon, Undecy­ exporten of chemicals and to' removo lenic Acid, Berberine Hydro­ the constraiots aifectitfl exports. chloride, Emetine satts, Strych. nine Salts. ID'ultrlal Disputel ID Courts Bet... Pablle Sedor .... It. nll,atea (II) Dyes and D,e Int6rmedlateJ : Organic PiBments, Djrect Dye. 4754. SHRIMATI PATEL Basic Dyes, Sulphur Dyes, Vat R.AMADBN RAMJmHAI MAYANI : Dyes, Azoic Dyes, Hydrochloric Will the MiDi~ter of PINANOB be pleased to atatc : . javol\lled in collectian of the information w~d not be commc.naurate with the (a) wbethee it ia' a fact that a results s01lfht to be achioved. number of industrial disputi's arc going 00 in variou. courts between public Loanl Advanced by Bombay Drallell of· lector undertakinas and its emPloyeeS; Bauk of Mahar.shara to Nalpar Based SYDthetfc Fibre Manafee- turing Company \D] if so, the details thereof pend­ inl in each indu~trial Lllbour Courts, 4755. RAMKRISHNA MORB High Courts and Supreme Court at Will the Minister of FINANCB he 'Present; pleased to atate :

(e) for how many years it is (a) whether it is a fact that Bank pending in each court; or Maharashtra has advanced a few crores of rupees to a Nagpur based syn­ (d) the reasons for not finalisa· thetic fibre manufacturing company tiOD thereof; from their Bombay branch, in whieh advance differences have cropped up (e) how much amount has been between the bank aDd the borrower; paid to such employees in each public sector undertaking in each of the last (b) if so, the details thereof; three years; aDd (c) the method adopted by the (f) what action Government Bank authorities to verify the .eouine­ proposes to settle the disputes at the nesc; or otherwise of the company earliest either in the court or otttside concerned, it '8 fi.1anncial viability to to overcome litigations and delays? repay the ]oan and allo to' have a guara­ ntee before entering into the contract with the sa id company ; THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (d) if answer to part (c) be iD the JANARDHANA POOJAR Y) : (a) to (f). nelative, the reasons which weighed Managements of the public sector with th c bank authorities to, torelo enterprises try to settle all disputes such formalities; and including the disputes arising out of the various wage settlements etc. by discus­ (e) the action taken by Govern.. sions across the table. There ar~ situa­ ment 10 the matter? tions where such settlements cannot be arrived at for various reasons. Even in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN respect of the terms and conditions of THB MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SHRI employment, disputes are being settled JANARDHANA POOJARY) amicablY as far as po~sjble. It is not, (a) and (b). 10 terms of Section 13(1) however, always possible to settle the of tbe Banking Companies (AcquisI­ disputes across the table. Since Labour tion and Transfer of Undertakings) Act, Courts/Indu,trial Taibunals!High Courts! 1910, information relating to individual Supreme Court can admit petitions constituents of the public lector banks from the individual employees! unions on cannot be disClosed. an)' aspects of the. emPloyment. or disciplinary matters, It i. not possible (c;) TJJe bank has reported that it to collect tho information relatina t.o bas observed the usual formalities fot the number of industrial d;sputcs pend .. appraisin, the project and determining ial in tbese courts.. their age and its viability b ~rore advancing funds to cOmPensation, if any, paid to their the COInlpny. employees by each Public Balter­ prises. Government fedls that the .ffort. (d) Does nOt arise. (e) The batlk bas initiated lela} FINANCB be pleased to state: .action to safeguard itl interests. 10 'tb, eircum.stancls, action into the matter by (a) whether it is a fact that the Government is not considered neces· Union Government have recently intro­ sary. duced a social security scheme to cover the of death by acci

Introduction of Social Sec:arlty The Schemo is desi,ned to provide Scbeme for Poor a survivor benefit cushion for the reba­ ~ilitation of the poor families. affected 4757. SHRI SRIBALLAV by the accidental deaths of its carDinl PANIG&AHI: Will the Minister of members who are Dot covered fOt DBA.nltA t; '''' (SAKA) Wrltte" Answ'" 52

compensation under an! iosurance (e) if so, the details thereof? schemes or any law/public statute. THE MINISTBR OF STEEL, Dual Prlee Seheaie tor Cotton Pareh.· MINBS AND COAL , (SHRI VASANT sers by Cottob Corporation of faella SATHB): (a) The equipment acqui­ red by Geological S.urvey of India, which 4758. SHaI JAGANNATH is a scientific organisation, is not capi­ pATNAIK : Will the Minister of talised and hence the expenditure on SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased acquirinl such equipment is no ttreated to state: as It investment";

(a) whether Government propose (b) to (e). Do not arise. a 'dual' priCle soheme for ootton pur­ chasers by the Cotton Corporation of India to provide relief to both crow~rl Disbursment 01 Loans to Weaker and milts; a.nd Sections In GuJRrat

(b) jf so, the' details regarding the 4760. SHRI AMARSINH. scheme of Government in this regard? RATHAW A : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND (a) the names of the bank. which TEXTILES (SHRI CHANDRASHE· have been entrusted with the disburse­ KHER SINGH): (a) and (b). It has been ment of loan to the poor section of the stipulated in the new textile policy Society in the Country particulary in announced by Government on the 6th Gujarat State; June, 1985 that the cotton grower shall always be assured off-take of their pro­ duce at remunerative prices and cotton (b) the amount disbursed through needed by the textile industry would be these banks during the last three years made available in adequate quantity in Oujarat, District-wise: and at reason-sble prices,. The role and functions of the Cotton Corporation of (c) whether Government have India would be reformulated to includ·o received auy complaints in regard to the price stabilisat ion operations. disbursement of loan to the needy per­ sons; Capital EqulplDents Held by GSI (d) if so, the details thereof; 4l59. SHRI SODS RAMAIAH and Will the Minister or STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleased to state: (e) the methods adopted for tbo disbursement or these loans and how (a) the capital equipments held by it will be recovered ? . Geological Survey of ll\dia and what is the total investment made in them; THB MINISTBR. OF STATB IN THB MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SHRI (b) how many of them were acquired JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) during the last ten years; An Commerical, Co-operative and R.egional Rural Banks provide credit to the poor (c) the percentage of utilisation sections of the Society ia all the States of such machinery or equipment; iucludil1l Gujarat. (d) whether tbere is any proposal to dispose of thole equipmeota/machi· (b) Total term credit di.bursed Dery whose capacity utilisation i. less duriog the last three years under the' than 50 per ceD~; and Intel1'atO\! Rutal I)cveloPlllcnt Prq. AUOUIT 13 J 19.5 Wrl' ",. Ali,"''' C4

II'8mme in Gujarat State bas been as THB MINISTER OF "STATE IN under :- THB MINISTRY Of FINANCe (SHRl JANARDHANA POOJARY) : r (Rs. in lakhs) (a) The sanctioned Bltdget Estimate for Union -Excise Duties for the year 1985. 1982-83 3355.89 86 is Rs. 12,226 69 crores. On -the basis of the collections from April to 1983-84 37.53.64 June in the pre-ceding two 'financial years 1984-85 3187.94 it was expected that the colJ ection from April to Juoe, 1985 would be about Total 10297.47 22.8% of the sanctioned Budaet Estimate which comes to Rs. 2787.69 The persent data reporting system crotes. As against this actu.).l realisa­ does not yield district-wise information. tion from April to June 1985 is Rs. 2896 54 crores. (c) to (e). Government have been receiving various types of complaints (b) A Technical Study Group is such as delay in the disposal of applica­ reviewing the excis-e tariff. The Group is tions, asking for security rejection of expected" inter alia, to go into the appiications, erc. The State Govern­ question of the excise duty concessions ments have been asked to take correc­ available to the products of units in the tive measures whenever such complaints small scale sector. come to their notice. (c) Following the liberalisation

effected in the Budget of 1985-86 in the I Loans under Inttgrated Rural sehemes of exemption ft om excise duty Development Programme arc disbursed in respect of specified groups of COm­ as per the recommendations of the modities as well as of goods falling District Rural Development Asencies under Item 68 of the Excise Tariff, Loans are given only for productive num{'rous representat ions were received. viable ventures. The State Governments It is however not possible 10 indicate have been ap.ked to watch the recovery the number of such representations. pOlititon of bank. und~r IRDP and Having regard to reI evan' considerations rtnder all possible assistance to them the small scale exemption scheme for in recovering their dues. goods falling under Item 68 was further Exclsf Duty expeefed and realised liberalised so as to provide for a rate of duty or 25% of the dut~ otherwise pay­ able for clearances exceeding Rs. 20 4761. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS lakhs and upto Rs. 30 lakhs in valu~. MUNSI; Will the. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Constitution of Boards for (a) the approximate expectation of Nationalised Banks excise duty resource mobilisation in the first three months of the Budget after it 4762. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will came into effect and the realisation the Minister of FINANCE be Pleased tbereof; .. to state:

(b) whether a review on excise (a) whether the constitution of tariff has become necessary for small regular boards Oil nationalised banks. scale items of mass consumption product has been delayed.; to realile more excise duty ; and (b) the reasons thereor ; and (c) the number of units which have complained that these units are closed (c) the steps taken to flnd 4ew because of increased excise taritf 1 . tal~nt8 for tllese boards 1 BHAD.A I, 1907 rS~K,4) WrltltllJ An,,",, 6' .

THB MINISTER. OF STATB IN Maharasbtra against their Jendinl to THE MINISTRY OF PINANC~ (SHRI small marsinai farmers under .anctiono4 JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to schemes amounted to RI. 221·60 crorOI (c). Boards of Directors of nationalised.. constituting more· than 70% of the banks have not been dissolved and hence total tefinance disbursed by NABARD in tho question of Qonstitution of relular Maharashtra under schemes relevant to Boards does not arise. However, in amaH and margInal farmers. terms of provisions· of NationaBled Banks (Management &, MisceUaneous Criteria Fixed for Reserved Candldat_, Provisions) Schemes, 1970 and 1980, Employees in Foreign POltiDgl In such of those non-official Directors as Punjab National Bank had completed tore e y:ars as Directors had been notified as having ceased to 47(i4. SHRI NARSING RAO h~ld office from the date they completed SURYAWANSHI: Will the Minister three years as Directors. Resu~ tant of ,FINANCE be pleased to state: vacancies have not yet been filled. The proce3S of selecting suitable persons for (a) whether there is any reserved luch vacanci es has already been initia­ quota fixed for candidatec;/emPloyee. ted bi the Government. belonging to Scheduled Castes and , Scbeduled Tribes in different grades, in Target rlxed by NABARD ror Loan to promotion, selection grtldes and foreiaD Small and Margina I Farmers and such postings in Punjab National Bank; LOins ad\'8Dced in Mabarashtra (b) if so, the details thereof 4763. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: Will grade-wise, promotion·wise, selection the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to srade-wise in foreign postings; and state: . (a) whether there had been fixed (c) if not., the reasons therefor? lome targets regarding the amount to be advanced as loan assistance to the small THE MINISTER OF STATB IN and marginal farmers in each State by THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI the National Bank for Agriculture and JANARDHANA POOJARY) : Rural Development during the Sixth (a) to (c). In Punjab National Bank Five Year Plan period ; and the staff is divided into three cate­ gories : (b) the dctail9 regarding the amount liven as loan to the smali and marginal 1. Officers, farmers in Maharashtra, particularly in rural areas 'It ~: Clerks, and 3.· Subordinate Staff. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJAR Y) : (a) No, Direct recruitment to officers cadre Sir. NABARD had not fixed any State­ is done on an All-India basis and 15" wile targeta of amounts\'I. for small and and 71% reservation is av~ilable to mar,inal farmrrs. However, NABARD Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribe. insists that at least 60% Of its refinance respectively in such recruitments. Direct under schemes relevant to the small rnd re9ruitment to clerical cadres and marlina! farmed should be utilised for subordinate staff is Dormally done financing them. region-wilD and the percentago of reser­ vations for SCheduled Castes' and (b) Present data reporting .ystem Scheduled Tribes applicable for lucb does not yi~ld information in tbe recruitments are according to tbe desired form. However during the percentages prescribed for rospecUve Sixth Plan Period tbe refinance dis­ reaions for this purpose. ReservatioQS ~urlcd by NAB~D to varipus banta i~ !n vromotioqs aro ,l8Q avajl"bl~ (t' the rate 01 lS~: and 71% for Sheduled for posting abrolld, as aJ)pJicable to Castes Bod Scheduled Tribe, respectively , Icneral category officers is applicable to in which the eltments of direct r<.cruit .. the Scheduled Caate and Scheduled meat, if any, does Dot exceed 6'6-2/30/0. Tr.ibe officers also. Bl.iaib1e Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe officers arc considered aloD.witb others for such In the case of officen, according postings. to the existing instructions, if the pro.. mofioDs ate made on senierhy balis, Lieences to Bank for Openln8 Their reservations will be applicabl c upto Branches 18 Orissa MMO Scale -111. Where the promotions are made on the basil' of selection, 4765. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD rnervation is ll'9ailable .only for promo· SETm: Will the Minister of tion from clerical cadre to the Junior FINANCB be pleased to atate : Management Scale-I. In Punjab (a) the details regarding the names National • Bank, • promotions to the of the private sector and public sector various scales in the officer's cadre is banks \\ hlcb have been issued licences not based exclusively on seOioritY4 to open theu branch~s in Onssa durlOg These are made on selection bac;is. The the last one year and the number of reservations in promotions are, there­ branches opened by these banks; and fore, not applIcable to any promotion (b) the number out of them to within the bank. However, there are b! opened in rural areal and the specifio senior management and top executJve directIves issued to tbem to deal with .tad:_, but reservations in promotions the f.lrmers ? from MMO to these grades are not applicable. THE MINI STBR OF ST A TB IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI In the matter of foreign postings JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) on reservation is available for Schedukd RequIred mformation relating to the Castes and Scheduled Tribes accordmg pub) ic and prIvate sector banks is given to the existing instructions. The criteria~ below:

Name of Bank Number of authorisations/licences Number of branches issued during 1984-85 for open­ opening in Orissa mg new branches in Orissa during 1984-85

Public Sector Banks State Bank of India 27 21 State Bank of Hyderabad 1 Addhra Bank 7 s Allahabad Bank S ·s Bank of India 6 z Canara Bank 3 Cel'ltral Bank of India 5 Iudian Bank 6 3 Indian Oversea. Bank 7 6 Syndicate Bank 3 3 Union Bank of India 2 2 United Bank of India 11 4 United Commercial Bank 15 13 Regional RUl al Banks 48 27 Private Sector Banks (b) Accordinl to the iDformati01l~ (a~ \ftether M.M.T,C. proo8f"6. avai labl e from Re&eflVe Bank of ladia. iron-ore from Orilaa M ininl Corpora­ the schtduled commerciai banks were tion and private min~.ownerl; holding SO authoris~tions as at the en4 of March 1985 for openina branches '(b) if so, the purpose thereof; in ttn Tural areaa of Orissa. The Rel­ erfe Bank of India have iuued luideli· (c) ~ the total quantity or iron oro ne' to all publiC sector bank. for procured by MMTC ftom Or isla increaling the flow of credjt in agrlCUl. Minin. Corporation and mine.owners of tural sector, particularly to small aDd Ori.. darn,. the Sixth Plan period, marginal farmers. year-wile;

SettiDg up of Separate Court. for Satta Filed By Banks For Reeo,ery of Dues (d) whether Government ha ve decided to increase the procurement of 4766. SHRI M. RAMACHAND· iron-ore for export purposes; and RAN: win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state whether in view of'the (e) jf so, the total tonnage of fact that innumberable suits ,fiied by iron ore proposed to be procured from h~ nks for recovery of dues are pending Otissa doring 1915.. 86? before courts, Government propose to set up separate courts to dispose of the THE MINI~R OF STATE IN same? THB MINISTR. Y OF COMMER.CE SHRI J».A. SANGMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN· THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) MMTC procures Iron ore JANARDHANA POOJARY) : While for export and to meet part require­ sunl!stlOns/recommendations in this ments of the domestic steel plants. regard have be en received by Govern­ ment/Res~rve Bank of IndIa. no con­ (c) A statement showing total crete proposals as stich are und~r quantity of iron ore procured by conside~ation of the Government at MMTC for OMC and Mine Owners of present. Ori.la during the Sixth Plan period, year-wise, is liven b~low. Procurement of tron-Ore Prom Orr.... Mining Corporation and Print. Mlae Ownlrs (d) Yea, ,Sir •

4767. SHaI LAKSHMAN MAL­ (e) MMTC proposes to procure LICK : Will the Minister of COM· for txport about 1 S lath tonnes of MERCE be pleased to state : iron ore fronfOrissa dur'nl 1985.. 86. St.'tmeat

Year For Export For St_l Plante Total Orand Total

O.M.C. Other. Total O.M.C. Others

1980 .. 81 4.84 '.81 12.-M 0.60 10.62 11.22 23.89 1981- 82 3.86 6.75 10.'1 0.6.1 10.23 10.84 21.45

1982-83 1.31 5.79 1.16 0.47 9.83 1 O.30~ 17.46

1983-84 1.13 $'.$0 6.61 8~31' 2.93 3-.24 9.81 1984·85 3.35 6.'9 10,34 o.S' 8.0& 8.64 18.98 s , k ..... 'I Wr It,.,. A1II,",' ' AuoUST 'U, 1985 Wrl",,, ..4 ",we,., '72

R_oval of Exp~rt Irrltaats by Jap•• paid OD electrical stampinls and lami­ na'tions used ia the manufacture of 4768. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Win motors and certain other electrical tho Minister of CO'.,fMBRCB be equipments is available, the same haa pleased to state : so far not been provided tor in cascs (8) whether it is a fact that the of their use in the manufacture o( Japan bas taken a number of step. transformers. This is for reasons of revenue sacTlfice involved and because under the I Action Progrtlmme' to cut down procedural stumbling blocks the excise duty in respect of electric constant irritants to exporters to Japan; moton and oth~r equipment. Presently" no proposal is under consideration of (b) if 80. to what ex~ent these the Government for extending the bene­ removal of export irritants has helped fit of set off to transformers. India; and Mfsuse of Development Loans A Jlotted (c) to what extent the trade Under lO-Point Programme In Tribal between t!te two countries win further Areal improve? 4770. SHRI. K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be THB MINISTER OF STATE IN pI eased to state : THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (a) whether it has come to his (SHRI P.A. SANOMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Ministry"s notice that a regular racket (b) and (c). The reduction/removal specilising in pilfering the development loar.s allotted under the 20·Point ot tariff and non-tariff barriers on !tems of export interest to India are likely Programme is flourishing in the tribal to rnult in increased exports from belts; India. .(b) whether in certain tribal areas, the so-called loans by the nationaHsed Set Oft in Resped of Duty Paid not banks and co-operative banks have Allowed In Mandfadare of brought havoc on individual tribals and .. Transformer. their families; and '# 4769. SHRIMATI USHA (c) if so" the steps which he VERMA : Will the Minister of proposes to prevent the banks operating FINANCE be pleased to state : in these areas violating all ruld and resortina \0 such malpractices liko Ca) whether it is a fact that &et-off' fake loans as an excuse to auction the I. liven in respect of duty paid on tribals' land and subjecting them to electrical stamping and lamination used an sorts of harassment and ignominy? in tb~ manufacture of motors and Qtber electrical equipments; ~ THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCB (b) if 80" the reasons that set-oft' (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): of the duty paid is not aUowed in the (a) to (c). The Government have manufacture of transformers which been receiving complaints about the are vital for power development and misuse of development loans and it haa proarammc; advised the State Governments. to set (c) whether Government propose up District le..-el Sub-Groups to oversee to take any action in this regard; the arievances of the borrowers and provide redressal to the e"tent and possible. (d) if not, the reaSODS therefor? The branch expansion policy is THB MINISTER OF STATE IN aimed at ploviding bankinl facilitiea ill TaB MINISTR. Y OF FINANCE unbanked and underbanked areas. (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : The bank employees have to observe (a} tQ (4). WhUo ,et-o, of excisc_ dut~ t~e rules aDd luidelinC8 laid down by 13 Wrt",,. A"sw,!, 8HADRA 1, 1907 (SA~) Written An8wer" 74 . RBI and their own organisation. Any banks beve further increased by Rs. employ.e wbo violates the guidelines 4021 crore, upto 5th July, 1 ~85. The or indulaes in malpra~tice. renders advances of th~ scheduled commercial himSelf lia"bJe for disc;iplinary action. banks bave incuased by Rs. 7145 crores in the financial year 1984-85 as Inducement of Money for ..,inl throulli. compared to an incr~ase of Rs 6562 Provident F.-nd and LIC etc. crores is in 1983-84. There is thus no adverse effect on the economy and the 4771. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD functioning of banks. As regards SINGH: Will the Minister ot FINANCE acceptance; of deposits from the public be pleased to state : this is subject to various type of (a) whether it jq a fact tbat IJlrge regulations. Dumber of public servants invest their Capacity Utilisation of Ship-Breaking money in shares and debentures; Yards of Alsog and Sacbana 10 Gujltat (b) ~hother there' is any prop,-,sal to induce them for savings through 4772. SHRI DIOVIJA Y SINH: provident fund, L1fe Insurance Cor­ Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES poration, Postal Life Insurance etc. by AND COAL be- pleased to state: giving more rate of interest say 12 per (a) the total capacity of breaking cent on General Provident Fund; ships in the ship- breaking yards of Alang and Sachana in Oujarat ; (c) whether a tendency has also (b) whether the actual operation developed amongst bustn.;!ssmen to in relation to capacity is around 3·' per eliminate banks and get money directly cent; from investors; aud (c) how this avera&e compares (d) if so, the effect it is likely to with other yards . in the country; have on the national economy and on and the functioning of banks ftnd the steps proposed to be lak en to check (d) the steps being taken to see Oloney-1ending by investors? that optimum capacity ttilisation is eff.!cted in A'ar~g aDO Saohana? THE lfIINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FlNANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL Investments in sha' es and debentures (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : are made by various catcgorjes of (a). According to an asssessment rna"de persons, inSl itutions, trusts etc. There by MSTC the capacity of ship-bre(lkir,g ar.! no estImates regarding the number at Alang and Sachana at 7,76 000 of publ ic SCI vahts who invest the ir LDT per annum. money in shar'es and debentures. ..(b) On the basis of anlQicipated (b) There is no proposal at present imports and availability of Indian to increa~e tht rate of interest on Flag Vebsels. during the current year, Central Provident Fund. the av:rag~fl utilisation of cap..lcity as dsseased by MSTC is exp<.~ctec1 to 'be (0) and (d). Companies raise around 50 percent, funds directly from the investors to meet a part of the cost of new/expansion (c) Thi. is e"p~cted to be about projects. Banks mainly cater to the the same as in other Ya.ds. working capital "et(uirements of (d) The quantity of imported business, industry, etc •. The aggregate ships is d~termined by the gap in th e deposils of scheduled tommercial banks demaDd for and availability of reroll­ have increaled from Rs. 60Vfi crores abIes from various sources for prc,duc­ as on the last Friday of March, 1984 tion of bars and rods. in the Coun' ry. to Rs. 7211' crores as on th~ last The quantity plann(d for import during Friday of March, 1985. In 1985~86 tile current year is double the tonoHle this trend has beeo maintained and the actually imported during the year depoists or schodu·led commercia J 1984.. 85. 75 I Writlt'n Answers AUOUST 2.3. 1985 Written Answers 76

Low val tie additMu in public 0( special study teams, provision of . sector enterprlMs additiodai inv.estments for balatlcfna facilities, .technology upgradation, moder­ nisation and rehabilitat ion of plants and 47]3 1 SHRI BHOLA NATa S~N: WIll the Minister of FINANCE be equipment, regular monitoring by the pleased to state : concerned admibistrative ministries, im­ proving tbe selectioB and appraisal of top managerial personnel, etc. (a). whether in some puhlic enterpris~s the vcllue added per man month was less than the average monthly emoluments Check to find out benefit on account 'per employees during the last two of reduction given In excIse duty years; to large companies

(b) if so, the details thereof and the 4774. SHRI RADHAKANTA DI. main factors respoHslble for such low GAL: Wilt the Minister of FJNANCE value additions in these enterprises; be pleased to state :

(c) the position in 1980 ·81 ; and (a) whether any check is kept to find out the benefit on account of reduction'i giwn in excise duty on essential com­ (d) the steps taken/proposed to put modities manufactured by larl2,e co m­ these enterprist:s on sound footing? panies tS passed On to the consumers and if so, the details of the same; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) whether it has come to the nol ice JANAROaANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes. of Qovernment that the large companies Sir. have increased the prices of daily need commodities immed lately after reduction (b) and (G). The enterprisewise details in excise dutJei in 1985·86 and If SO, of average tmoQthfy emoluments pcr the action proposed to be take. to enStlre employee and value a.dded per man that the benefit is passed on to the con­ month for ! 983-84 and 1982 .. 83 are sumer? given in Volume.3 P.Art I of the Pyblic Enlerprises Survey 1983-84, plated on the Tabfe of Lok Sabha on IS.31985. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Thes;- u'!tails for 1980.81 are available MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI in VO'ume-3 of the Public E'nterprises JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and Survel 1980 .. 81 placed on the Table or (b). The Excise law pr~sently contains no Lok Sabha on 24.2.1982. provision whereby manuracturers of excis .. able goods can be made to ensure that any relief' in excise' duty is passed on M my factors contribute to the situa­ entirely tb the ~()nsumers. Whereas tion where the~ value adde~ per ~n Go,v.ernment keaps a watch on tbe prices, month is less than the average monthly it may be p®ted' out tltat'ollcise duty emoluments per employee. Sotpe of them i~ nlll t\lO only factor which arects prioo •. ar~ r)owet shortage. recessionery condi. Irh spite of an exci,e dub r~du~tioQ tlons prevailing ttl industries like textiles. a.her factor4 may lead to, -eacaiatioD io unecenomic prices, lurplus manp0wer. price:s outwmodcd technology and old plant & machinery. CK: • seriefltjlirles of rural deyelOpment and fd) The Government is cbdlio'uOU5ly 'et'iilllbfmeat .die me revlewin~ the perfOrmance of tbese enter­ prises and amortJ ttte steps tak$i/ttrQPosed .47,75 •. sa,a4, ~~UtO~H,~AW : ,Willi to bQ taken to imf}rovf] thclr pCrfQtmao~. d'o.Minis~et of FINANCE b6 pleased to menlion may be m'l ie of the constitution state: Wr'tteu Answers 78

fa> whotbCl' 1he 'ltesc:rve Bauk of implementation or the progtamme and India Ilas recently conducted a study of the olher was one with not satisfactory the actual beneficiaries of the centraily perforanance. A total of 869 beneficiaries ·eponsorcd rural d~elopment and 'emPloy- . were s~lected for tbe study. The aiol or ,alent schemes implemctlted by the different tbp study was to asscss tbe opera.tional State Governments; efficiency of programme imt>lementation. the extt'nt of proper utilisa~on of loans, (b) if so, the details of the RBI tile bene~ts which have been accrued to study and. the fb,dMgs thereof ; the beneftclaries by way o.f incremental income, etc. State .. wise break-up of (c) the norms rollowed by the RBI beneficiaries assess.ed by. tfle RBI are In assessing the number of actual benefi­ given in the stat'ement below: ciaries ; and Statement (d) the State-wise break-up of tho number of actual beneficiaries of sucb Stau Number schemes as asse&sed by the Reserve Bank of India 1 1. Assam 46

THE MINISTER OF STATE TN THE 2. Bihar 57 MINISTRY OF FINANCiE (SHRI 3. West Bengal 1t JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b'. Yes, Sir. The RBI conducted a field 4. Orissa S2 study of implemcntat ion of (nteg~atl!d Rural Drvelopment Programme, As far 5 Ultar Pradesh 60 as self employment scheme is concerned 6. Haryana '60 in January, 84, RBt conducted a limited sample check of about 70 borrowers in 7. Jammu & Kashmir 47 l' dIfferent States, A second detailed 'Study covering a Idrger sample of 1200 8. Himachal Pra!esh 60 beneficiaries was carried out during '8S 9. Rajasthan 60 and the results are under process 10. Gujarat 60

The main findings of the evaluation II. Maharashtra ~O study of IRDP are regarding financing of , inel igible persons in a few cases, lack of 12. Madhya Pradesh (50 infra-structural facilities cruc~ to Che t :_l. Andhra Pradesh 60 success of investments, excessiYc coneen!" trationJn some schemes like purchase of 14. Karnataka 60 milch cattle. etc. 15. Tamil Nadu 60 The sampl~ Check of the advanoes 16. Kerala 56 granted under the self-employment scheme rcWea1ed some defttiences like fioknci. to 8{)9 inelNfble 'Pet$on,; borrowers D(U aequit~ ift.· adels, e7cCe~~ivd- tlnan~ing fot tradin; activities concentrafic-n on $ome 8C!ttvitj' I 0-.. 'Erport of MObkeys in a particular locality without con~i.d~rinlJ ad the fea~ibiUty, etc. ..776. SIijU VIRDli,l CHANoaR. (c) and (d), .For tbe IRDP sJudy, RBI JAIJ'{,: WjIL.&.be Minilter of COM", 8~cted"16 distficts in) lho, couP~fY (~~ M.ER.CE be pleasod to state:

dl.trict fi~ onc=. $tate) J rrOJP ,,~ ... ~ " t t. 2' blockS each" ~Ie'ct".~, '(1 su9&) a lIf.DMr (a) whether it is a fact tbat there i. thal 6DO" block' re~resedtOd proper as ban on export of monkeys; 79 Wlttlen AruWft'$ AUQUST 23, 1985 Writ/en AnI""" 80

(b) ir so, when it was imposed ; The Rate or Inler.. ' for lucb AdvaDCOI are 8S under : (c) whether it is also a fact that «() where the total number of despite the embargo on monkey's export, vchklea o\iVned by the borrower is not It fa Dot being effectively implemented; more than 2 including the one proposed and to be purcbased 12.50;0

(d) if so. t he measures proposed to , (ii) CIlse5 not covered under (i) 15.0% be taken in tile resard ? Banks bave been advised that col­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lateral security/third party luarantee MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI for loans upto and inclusive of Rs. P.A. SANGMA''t: (a) Yes: Sir. 25,000J.. sohuld Dot be asked for. For Joans in exccss of Rs. 25,000 I-collateral (b) 23,. Nqvember, 1977. security by way of immovable pro­ perties or third party guarantee may be (c) and (d). No case regarding asked for only in cases where primary illegal export of mokey. bas been security is inadequate or for other valid reported. reasons and not as a matter of routine. Such loans c~aD be advanced by the [TranS/'ll ion] banks all over the country including in

Rajasthan. 4' LOADS From Nationalise Banks For Transport Business [English] Detelopmeut qf Textile Indusfry 4177. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA Will the Minister of 4778. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : WJ)) FINANCE be pleased ao &Iate : the Minister 'of SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES bc pleased to sta.te : (a) whether th're is any scheme under which people belonging to (a) whether the locational restrictions Scheduled Caste/Scheduled Tribe can with regard to setting up new industries get their~ vehicles like bus/truck/tempo; or expanding the existing one under the industrial poJicy in coming into con11u.:t (b) whether they can avaH of the with expansion of eXisting non-viable facIlity by obtaining loaDs from the spinning units in Kerala ; nationalised banks for starting the said transport business; and (b) whether any application for such • expansion has been rejected by his (c) if so, the names of banks which 'Ministry on this ground after the an­ provide the Joab facility-indicating the . nouncement of the new TextiJ~ Policy: rate of interest and the guarantee required therefor in Rajasthan 1 (c) if so, the details thereof;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) whether such rcstrictions would MINISTRY OF fINANCE (SHRI Dot hamper the deve)opmen t of textil~ JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to industry and thus defeat the spirit of tbe. (c). Advances gradted to Small Road new Textile Policy; and and Water Transport Operators owning a fleet of not exceeding six vehicles, (e) if so, the steps taken to remedy including the one proposeO to be financed, the situation '1 forlQ part of the prJority sector advances. Eligible borrow era can avail of advances THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE for purchase of vehicles from the braDcb MINISTRY OP. SUPPLY AND TEX­ of a nationalised bank operatiDa in TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKH'AR tbeir locality. SINGH) ':

(b) : if so, the progress in this regard sion of existing spinning units afe consi.. so far: and dered on merits in "the light of the exist.. ina policy for Irant of fresh licences in the spinn~ns sector. (c) when the Committee's work is likely to be completed ? (b) and (c). An application for licence for expansion of spinning Cilpacity (J om THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Mjs Kathaye Cotton Mills, Alwaye, MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEXTILES Kerala bas been rejected by the Secre .. (SARI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : tariat of Industrial Approvals. Their (a) While no such Commiuee bas been appeal against the rejection is under set up exclusively for Azamjahi Mills9 consideration. Warangal. it is learnt that the Govt of Andhra Pradesh has set up a' TI jpa~tite (d) and (e). Guidelines for issue of Committee to go into the- wage, D.A. new licences in the spinning 8~ctOr has and other conditions of service of textile been framed keeping in view the t~nta. mills in Andhra Pradesh. tive projected requiremedts of addit ionsl spinning capacities dUring the Seventh (b) and (c). Since no such Committee Five Year Plan and the fact that there has been set up by the Govt. of India exists a large number of valid -permits for the NTC, the question of progress in Issued under the previous Delicensing thi~ regard does not arise. Scheme. Medical Rcimb,ursement by Minerals and India to LaundJ Commercial Csmpatign Metals Trading Corporation in France and USA about its Indu~­ trial Potentilll etc. 4781. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: WHI 1he Minister of COMMERCE be 4779. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the plea~ed to state: Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to stale: (a) the amount paid by the Minerals (a) whether Government have decid­ and Metals. Trading Corpof8tion. New ed to launch a commercial campaign in Delhi as medlcals reimbursement charges France and U.S.A. to make people aware to its employees during January 1984 to of India"s industrial potential and the July 3], I 985 (month-wise); variety of goods that it can offer in the wake of festivals in those countries; and (b) whether Government propose to cover the employees of the Minerals and (b) if SOt the details in this regard ? Metals Trading Corpora tion under the Central Government Health Scheme; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMER~E (SHRI (C) the steps M.M.T,C, management P.A. SANGMA) : (a) and (b). Yes, propC'tse to take to check the misuse of Sir. The details of the proaramme are present system of medicals scheme with being worked out. details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Revision ~f Wq~ of Workers-of NTC Azamjabl Mills, Waranaal MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI p, A. SANOMA) : (a) A statement.I showing 4180. ·SHRI C. JANOA REDDY: moth-wl'se expenditure on account of me­ Will tbe Minister ot SUPPLY AND TEX­ dical reirnbersement in respect of Qmr~lo TILES be pleased to state : yees or M.M.T.e.'s Corporate office, New Delhi for the period 1.1-1984 to whether a 'Wage Committee' 31-7-198~ is liven below, was formed to 10 into the question of revision of wales of the workers of the (b) "No, Sir. National Textiles CorPoration Azamjabi Mills, Warangal ; (c) A statement-II is aiven below. 83 Written Answr.r AUGUST 23, 1985 Written A.n,wers 8 +

Statemeot-I

(RB.) January, 1984 2,64,020.71

February, 1 984 «;'0,691.93

March, 1984 6,00,855.07

April, 1984 I1 t 513,80 May, 198. 1,69,745,61

June, 19&4 2,09,515.80

July, 1984 2,00,083.97

August, 1984 2,28,335.48

September, 19'84

October, 19'84 2,52,595)2

:November. 1914 a,!2,674.53

Decet'b bcr, 1 9'84 2.57,967.69

lanuary, 1985 2,83,134.43

February, 1985 2,17,022.57

Mar,eb, 1 985 6,42,065.85

Aprjf, J 98' .20,654.59

1,69,429.89

June, 1985 1,84,183.73

July t 1985 2,47,559.81

Statement-II (b) the cases of such employees whose medical expenses are consistently on Under the existing scheme, biJIs are the high side are perjodically re. submitted by the doctors/chemists etc. to viewed and remedial action taken. MMTC'. office for payment .• However, reimbursement to the employees is made (C) Authorised Medical Attendants only for hospitalised treatment and clinical who arc found to be not following tests. In order to -=xercise control on me­ Corporation's instructions or prime: dical expenditvre on such employees and faCie indulging in irregularities to ensure that medical facilities are not are depanclled from time to time; . misused, following steps have been taken : and (a) AU employees or the Corporation (d) tbe Corporation also exercise stric. are aslted to name tho Authorised ter control in scrutinising the bills Medical Attendant or their cltoice for medical expenses in terms of for taking day.to.day treatment; ita rules. .. 85 WriUt'l't AnsWu$ BHADRA 1, ~907 (SAKA) Written Answers . 86

Ad,..,dng of LoaDs b, Bub to in half yearly equal instalments commenc­ .. Shlpplbg Com.-Ies ing after the initial moratorium of two years. 4782 SHRI BEZHWADA PAP I REDDY: WIll the Mini,ter of FINANCE (e) Due to Global recessionary ttend be pleased to state: in the shipping industry the shjppina companies have been facing some finllnciaJ (a) whether he is aware that lome "anks difficulties in repayment of the Joans have been advancins" big 10aOl to some availed by tflem and therefore, they havo shioping companies; approached the Government for some reliefs in the repayments of the loans. (b) jf '0, the total amounts advanced by banks bane-wise and shjpping company­ Setting up of Mini Steel Plants wise during the last three years ending 31st March, 1 9 8 ~; 4783. SHRI MURLIDHAR MA NE : Will the Minister of STEEL, Mlr:JES (c) the details of major lerms on which AND t;0AL be pleased to state: such loans were advanced; (a) whether a proposal to set up miDi (d) the schedule of paymeot of tbe steel plants in the country in view of finan­ loan;- and cial constraints is under consideration of Government; (e) in case loan has Dot been returned as per terms settled upon; the reasons for (b) jf so, the details thereof; (be same and the steps taken to recover the amount ., (c) whether Government also propose to set up some more mini steel plants in THE MINISTER OF STAtrE IN THE Maharashtra; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? Reserve Bank of India has reported that during the last three years cnding 31 st THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE March, ] 985, four Indian Commecial DEPAR'llMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. Banks have du~bursed a total of Rs.l 08.89 NATWAR SINGH) :(U) No, Sir. crores to 10 shipping companies fOI acqui­ sition of ship.;; under the 'Ship Acquisition (b) Does not arise. From Abroad Under New Scheme­ SAFAUNS'. In terms of Section 44( 1) (c) and (d). No such proposal is under of the State Bbnk of Jndi. Act, 195 Sand oonsideration of the Government. Section J 3(1) of the Banking Companies (AcquisitjQD and Transfer of UndertakinB) • Act, 1970, the details of individual cons­ Exploration Of Uranh.m And Other tituents of the public sector banks cannot Metals In ADdbra Pradesh be disclosed. Hence. tbe blnk.wise and company-wise details cannot he disclosed. 4784. SHRI VUAYAKUMAR • RAJU: Will the Minister of STEEL, (c) aDd (dr. The loans disbursed UDder MINES AND COAL be pleased to the GoverDm~ntts scheme and'SAfAUNS' state: are granted fot a period of 12 years with initial moratorium of two years, against whether it is a fact that uranium guarantee from Shipping Development and other rare motals have been found Fund Committee (SDFC) in favour of the in some districts of Andbra Pradesh ; financiOI bank as security for the 1080. The effective rate of intetest charged f(om (b) is 80, the Dames of the distric •• the .hippiQl compaDi~ il 7.5 %. The wJ1ere tbe uranium and other raro metall repayment of such Joana are to be made have been located : aDd 87 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answers 8 8

(c) the steps taken for their THE MINSTER OF ST ATE IN THB exploration? MINISTRY OP fiNANCB. (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY') : (a) and (b), Separate instructions have not been THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES issued by R.,B.I. to b~nks in regard to AND COAL (SJ:lRI VASANT SATHE) : financing SC/ST beaefl::iares under tbe (a) ~es, Sir, special component plan, However, Reserve Bank of India have from time to (b) Uranium and other heavy time issued comprehensive set of guide. minerals have been located itt Mehboo­ lines to banks regarding Iiberalised bnagar, Nellore, Nellore and Prakasam Margin and' Security norms etc, in Districts of Andhra Pradesh, respect of all categories of borrowers for advances under priority sector and (c) The Atomic Minerals Division of weaker sections. As per these guidelines bankq should not insist on collateral the Department of Atomic Energy bas intensified its in'egrated survey and security or third party guarantee in the exploration prO!!1ramme by u-;ing multl­ ca<;e of small loans uoto Rs./. 5 000 in pronged strategy for indentlfication of agricultural sector aDd u"to RI, 25,000/­ new t .. rgel areas. Apart from foot. in other priority sectors, surveys and peo chemtcal and geopllvsical methods. airborne gamma spectrometry (c) and (d). R.B.I, has reported that and magnetometr,c slJrvey' and remote the m'orm.llion In the manner asked for sensing methods are also bemg lI~ed for IS not YIelded by the preseut report 109 the purpose, system. Howo:ver, accordmg to tilo latest available mformatlon, aggregate advances ot' S.:heduled Commercials [Trans/at ion] Banks In Falzabad District of Uttar Grant Of Loans To We,tkt-I' Section., Prade~h stooj at Rs, 33.' 9 crores on the In Falzabad District Of Uttar last Fnday of June, 1984, Pradesh [ £ngl'~h] 4785. SHR[ R P SUMAN: Will Calles or Irregularities Detected Aga :nf)t the Minister of FINANCE be ple,H~t'd to Employees Officers or tbe CCI & E state; • 4786, SHRI MOOL CHAND (8) whether Governmc:nt have IS!lued DAGA: Wltl the Mjnister of COM· instruction" fur grant of loan to wed ker MERCB be pleased to state : sections a.,d Scheduled Caste 'Scheduled Trible beneficiaries under ~peclal com~ (a) whether cases of irregul~rities/ ponent plan and vorious schemc~ meant violation of rules and regulations commit­ for the poOr wlthoLit in~lstlOg oS} surety ted by cerIa-in employees and officers of or gUdrantee ; the Chief Controtler of Imports and Exports have been detected by Govern­ mcnt~;

(b) if so, the details thereof and \ when I~ch IOstTucllons wer,e Issued ; , b) the pll'lioulars of such employees and officers, nature -Of irte8UIarities. (c) the number of banks which violmion or rules aftCl regulations an(f have advanced loan under above other relevant deta-iJs; instructions ~jlhout insl~lmg pn surety or I luarlntee indiCAting the number of (c) whetilcJ;' Government bave launch,.. be neflciaries of each catagoty granted ed prosecuti0,f) aDd 4epart,men~ jll1 ,in­ loan in Faizabdd District of Uttar qUlries agJ~nst ali ' JJCP1pers9~~ Pradesh ; and (d) the resu\ts pf U1ewpro~li.QJlI/) (d) If not, the re~ons th~.refcr ? de~~meillal io'Wir~",p (tJ;,._04 ., 89 W,ltllll Answers . BHADRA I, 1907'(SAK14) Written Aswers 90

(0) if no inquiries instituted, tbe whom income-tax demands exceeding reasons, therefor ? RI.} crore were outstanding as on 31.3.1985 (the latest available informa.. TH:e MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion) are given in the stat4'ment given M!'\,ISTRY OF CO\.fMBRCE (SURI below. P.A. SANGMA): (a) Yea, Sir. (b) S5 cases of irregularities durin, (d) A sum of Rs. 664.59 crores was the period from. 1.1.1983 to 30.6.1985 payable by the assessees against whom hav~ been detected involving 37 emplo­ income.. tax 'demands exceeding Rs. 1 yees and 37 offi,,;ers, This. includes 14 crore were outstanding as on 31.3.1985. cases involving 7 employees and 13 officers which are still under investigation Statement by the CBI. SI. No. Name of the industrial house (c) ·In 7 'cases prosecution $anctions 1. A,C.C, Vickers Babcock Ltd. were given and the case are under trial in the Courts of Law. 9 employees and 2. A,C,C, 'Limited. 1 officer are involved. Departmealal 3. Bajaj A uto Limited, PFoceedings are either under process or 4. Andhra Pradesh Paper Mills Ltd, inquiries have b~en initiated in 21 cases invoJvirJg ] 3 employees and t 4 officers. 5. Century Spg. & Mfg. Co. Ltd. 6. Hindustan Aluminium Corpn .. Ltd. (d) and (e), In 13 cases, recognjsed 7. J Iyajeerao Cotton Mills Ltd. penalties have been impl)sed involving 8 employees and 9 officers, 8. Kossoram Industries & Cotton MilJs Ltd. Tux Arrears Dlie From Big Business 9. Mysore Cements Limited. Houses 10. Zuari Agro Chemicals Limited. 4787. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Win the 11. Escorts Limited. Millistcr of FINANCE be pleased to 12. state : Escorts Tractor Limited. 13. J .K, Synthetics Ltd~ (a) whether Government have recently decided not to show leniency towards the 14. Raymond WOQlen Mills Ltd. tax evaders~ t S. Straw Products Limited,

(b\ if so, the parti~ulars of big busi. 16. Kamani Bngg. Corporation, ness houses detected upto 30 June. 1985 17, Larson & Toubro Limited, against whom arrears of rupees one tax 18. Modi Industries Ltd. (formerly Modi crore and above are due; Sugar Mills Ltd.) (c) the action proposed to be taken 19. Modi Rubber Limited. against them; and 20, Carborundum Universal ~td. "(d) the total amount of tax due to be 21. National Rayon Corpn. Ltd. oaid by the tax payers agai nst whom 22,- Soutb India Viscose Ltd. rupees one crofe and aboJle arc duc '1 23, Orissa Cement Ltd. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THS .. 24! Dharat Steel Tubes. MINlSTltY OF FINANCE (SHRt 25 •. Syn*tics Limited. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to ~c). The Government has· never bean 26, Jay Eogineetina Works Ltd. lenient towards the ,tax evaders, Appr:o­ 27. D~C.M. Limited. priatt action according to law is ~ken 28, DbrflDgadhra Chemicals Works Ltd. .aaainst tbe tax evaders and tax defaulters. 29. Swan Mills Limited. Tile names of the iDclu~fial hou~ reaiJteretl under section, 26 of the MRtl» 30. My,sot. Wine ,produc&I Limited. Act, 1969 .(bQcd,op 31. t 2.1984) again" 31. Swadeshi Polytex Limited. ~ 1 Written Ans'Ktt's AUGUST 23, 1985 Wrltt,n A1J,wets 9'2 .. Stay Orders Preveating Wltll Proceding.c; (d) whether Government propose to Against Indian Tobacco Company make efforts to get the writ petition revoked speedily so that·the .huac amount 47 88. SHRI M. RAGHUMA of loans oUlsanding against these centres RBDDV : Will the Minister of can be recovered ? FINANCE b~ pleased to stale : THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE (a) the details of the stay orders pre­ MINISTR Y OF FINANCE (SHRI ventmg And/or proceeding further with JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to adjudication proceedings against the (d). Tbe present data reporting system Indian Tobacco Company that conti nut' does.. not yidd the information in the to be operative. manner asked for. The Agro Service Entrepreneurs filed a petition in the (b) the steps being take;n by Govern­ Supreme COUit· of India alleging that the ment for getting these orders vacated; Government has not discharged its res­ and ponsibilities as plomlsed under the Scheme. A rehabilitation Scheme sub­ mitted in the Supreme Cou·rt on behalf (c) the steps Gover oment have taken of the entrepreneurs, was considered by for the recovery of arrears from the the Government and it was communicated Indian Tobacco Company '1 to the Supreme Court that the matter of the write pefltion may kmdly be consi­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dered on merit. MINISTRY OF FIN ANCE (SH RI JANARDHANA POOJAR Y) : (a) to Frauds In Banks (c).- 'r he infOJ matloo is being cOllected and will be laid on the Table of the 4790, SHRI MOHD. MAHfOOZ House. . ALI KHAN: SHRI VISHNU MODI: [Tr.anslation] Will the Minister of FINANCE be Bank Loans Outs(andia~ AgaInst pleased to state : Apultta Serr_ Centres (a) whether the number of C'ases of 4 7 89. SHRI DILEEP SINGH frauds in nationalised banks has increased BHURIA : Will the Minister of to such an ClUent that inveslig~tion of FINANCE be pleased to stale: sueh cases has almost become the major part of the work of the Central Bureau (8) the amount of loans outstanding of JnvestigatioD; against the agriculture service centres advanced to them through differeot (b) if 80,. the percentage of cases nationalised banks in the country; registered by tbe C.B.I. in a ~ear in regard to banks; (b) whether it is a fl-ct that the reali. sation or this amouDt has not been (c) tbe Dame of the State having the possib.le due to the general stay .obtaiped ma"imum cases .nd the categories 01 on a writ filed on be}lalf of Madhya Pra­ persons who indulge' in such acts of desh Agro Enterprises Association in frauds;

1981 in the ~upreme Court; # Cd) whether Government propose to (c) whether it is aJso a fact tbat this bring fo~ard a legislation to check such cases of frauds in banks· Itay baa DOt bceD revoked because the , Miniatry bas not been able to produco a (e) If 10, tbe details thereof; and scheme hi the Supreme Court to tcvho the~ centres; ud (I) if Dot. the reasona therefor' - BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAK.t4) Written Answers 94 . THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) bow, far will 'this atTect the MINISTRY OF RNANCB '(SHRI Indian ectrepreneurs ; and JANAROHANA POOJARY): (a) nre Central Bureau of Investigation bas re­ ( d , the steps proposed by Govern­ pOrted that tbe number or caSes involving ment to safeguard the interest of I~d ian nationalised banks registered bV the CBl businessman ? have increased in ttae 1"5t Ave years from about 19 per cent in 1980 to 26 per cent THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in t 984 of tho total cases ro ~istercd by MiNISTRY OF FINANCE (bHRI tht CDI. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) There is good response from the non-resident (b) and (c). In Central Bureau of Indians for i ;vestments in India. Investigation has reported that during the year 1984, it had registered 286 cases (b) The position for the period since relating to bank frauds which were about April 1982, relating to investment 24 per cent of the total cases registered facilities for non-residents of Indian by it in that year. The hIghest number nationality /origin as well as overseas of cases in any state in that year w~s 43 corporate bodies owned at least to the in Uttar Pradesh, In most of the bank extent of 60% by them, for which data fraud CdSes Branch Managers of the con­ availahle WIth the Reserve Bank of India, cerned banks and private parties. who is as follows : were customers of the banks. were in­ volved. The break-up of persons IDvolved in these cases i1 as under :- Amount (Rs. in crores)

No, of Persons IDvolved (A) Direct investment cases (as on 30.6.1985) 315.96 Officers Award Pnvate sta tf panies (B) Portfolio investment Actual purchases of 46.87 286 344 87 241 Shares/Debent\Jres thr­ ough Stock Exchange (as on 31.3.1985) (d) t~ (f) At present no proposal to briog forward any speci1l1 legislation IS (C) Bank Deposits under consideration of Government, '1:be Outstandmg balances 3968.64 existing legal provisions are considered adequate to deal with caseS" of frauds, (as on 31.5. t 985)

[English] (c I agj (d >. ~ The limit for purchase of one ~r cent of the paid-up value of Desire or non-resldeot Indi8Ds to invest the equity Ihares/con..vertlblc debentures In various companies in Jodla in an)' one company by one non-resident investor subject to the overall ceiling' of 4191. SHRI B.B RAMAIAH: Will S per cent of tbe total paid-up value of the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to equity capital/each series of convertible .~ate : debentures by all eligible non.resident Investors on bOth repatriation and non. whether he i. aware that nOD ... repatriation basis under • he portfolio resident In jians have expressed great investment scheme is intended to avoid desire to invest their savinas in vari.us any possibility of take-over bids. So far companies in India: .S DOD resident investment under the Direct Investment Schemes is concerned, (h) if lOt. the details of tbe invest­ the shares are issued to NRls with the ments souabt to be made by non-resident consent of the existing managements of Indiapl; IDdian C<)R)paDies &lIl'S tbus the question 95 Written A.nswera AUGUST 23,1985 Written An.sW~f3 96 of proposing steps for safeguard ins the (C) whether it is now proposed to interest of Indian bus.nesimen does Dot COJ;lsult stAff nninnlil An~ I\ssociaticns ? arise. THE MiNISTER OF STATB IN THE Acquisition of explosive chemicals by .MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Indian firms from parties haviag JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) ~o, Ilok wItb us based extremists Sir.

( b) Does not arise. 4792. PROF. PJ. ~URIEN : SHRI V. TULSIRAM : (C) A dialogue has been held with SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: some of the associntions ",hlch i.;, how .. SHRI JITENDRA SINGH: ever, inconchlsivc.

Will the Minister of CO MMERCB be Deposit of timount by cooperative pJca$cd to state: land mortl'sge bank and given to NABAHD for SIWIU farmers (a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to report appearing in 4794. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the western press to the effect that cerrain the Mmhter of I-1NANCE be pJeased to stale : Indian have been rec~lvmg highly explosive .chemicals from parties which have links ~ extremists based in U S. (a) whether Government are aware etc; that the Central Co-operative Land Mortga8e Bank in Kerala has deposited Rs. S.3 5 crores, WhlCh was given to It (b) if so, whether any inve,tigation by NABARD fQr disbursement among has been conducted into thiS affairs ; t he small farmer S 10 Kef ala, in two and commerctal banks for earn,"" interest and had not disbursed it amogg the (c) jf so. the names and other detaJls f..trmers ; of those Indian firms the action being taken against them ? (b) if so, the action tdken In thIS case; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF COMMERCE (SHRI (c) the step~ taken to disburse this P A SANGMA) : (a) to (c). Government amount among the f~rmer~ ? have no such information. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SHRI Purchase of COJIIPuters fjy JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (e). Income Tax Department Contributions from NABARD are given by way of re imbursement finance repre­ 4793. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR : sentina amounts already Jeat by LDBs Will the Minister of FINANCE be at the field leve •. The refinance goos into pleased to state: the pool of resources of lDBs and ~o it i, d~mcu't to segregate and ascertain (a) whether it is a fact that the whether any particular ame\lnt invested Income Tax Department has P\lfcb~Qd by LOBs is entirc,ly related to retiDlnc:o 01)0 crore worth of computers withoUl availed of from NABARD. The ban" ... taking appropriate preparatory steps to other resources such as share capital, froe develop computer systems in co~uJta~ioD reserve aad amount received from borro. with staff unions ; wers 01) account of repa,meo.ta. Irowever, in May ~8~ 011 reeetp11 (b) if so. the reasoal tberefor ; aDd information that as. S •3 S croce. 'wa* 97 Written Answ"'8 BHADRA t, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

kept by Kerala Cdoperative Central Land (c) whether Government propose to Mortgage Bank with two commetc=ial initiate aD enfluiry into thIs fraud? banks a, calf deposit~. NABAR 0 jDv~sti­ pted the matter. It was reveaJed tbat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the bank had ~e surplus amount of a MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI te.Qlporary nat~ wtlich was depbsited as JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c). call deposits in commercial banks. The Accordina 10 Section 13{ 1) of the Banking Registrar of Cooperative Societies! Kerala Companies (Acquisition & Transfet of bas given pOlt facto approval to 'be Undertakings) Act, 1970 and Banking investment. NABARD bas aseertained C0r,anies (Acquisition & Transfer of deposits that the entire ha'Je been with. Un rtakings) Act, ] 980, no publIc sector I drawn from the two commercial banks by bank is supposed to divulge any IDforma­ 2O-th JUQe '85, lion relating to its constituents Or 10 the affairs of its constituents. The Lokabrati Adjudicating P~dlnp A_n~t ITC Society being an individual account holder Pending for FioalfsarioD is a constituent of the United Bank of India. 4795. SHRI RAM BHAGAT. PAS .. WAN: Will the Mmister of FINANCE Action Against Companies for Violation be pleassed to refer to the rep'Y given to of Foreign Exchange Regulations Act. Unstarred Question No. 2902 on 12th April, 1985 regarding adjudicating pro. 4797. SHRI B. N. REDDY: Will ceedings against ITC pending for finaIisa­ tbe M,nister of FINANCE be pleased to tion and state ~ state:

(8.) whether the information relating (a) whether Government are" aware to Income-tax and Custom duty bas been that certam companres regIstered an IndIa collected; and are earnmg commiSSIons from some foreign companies and the foreign ex­ (b) if so, the details thereof '1 change earnings are being deposited in SWISS Banks and other foreIgn banks wIth · THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the result India IS deprived from taklOg MINISTR Y OF FIN ANCE (SHRI it into tlccount as its foreign exchange JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and earnings; (b). No adjudication proceedings against ~/s I.T.C. Limited relating to income. (b) if so, the particulars of the com .. tax and customs duty are peDdins for panies which generally do !\o and whether final isatiOD. they inform Government about the same; and Sanction of LoaD by United Bank of India to Lokabratt Society of Porlia (c) if Government are not informed of the same, whether thIS amounts to 4796~ SHRI B_~B ACliARIA : violalion of FERA ? Will the MiniSter of FJ~ANCE be pleased t6 state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (a) whether this is a fact that a larle JANARDHANA POOJARY) : to (C). amount of money was sanctioned to Loka­ Under the provisions of the Foreign Ex. brad Society of PurJia District by UDited ch,.oge RCluJation Actt. 1973, companies/ BaDk of India in the year 1972 for liviD. firms in I~ja are required to repatriate I~n to the farmers of the DistriCt; into India any foreign exchange eatned by them by way of comQliuJoD from foreian (b) wbe~ tbJ. is also!- fact thal cOJl)panies.. R.etention of the tame outside _ ..,. .mouot tePlaiD unpaid and haa been India without the -prior rc:rmission of tbe misappropriated; and R.eserve :dank or India I. viOlative qC tbf 99 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 198! Written A.nswers . 100 provisio" of the Act. If any instance of If the- grant element is taken into unauthorised retentio.n of commission acc.ount the effective interest charged will abroad comes to notice, the matter is loo­ be leas than even 8 %. ' ked Into by the Enforcement Directorate for appropriate action 'Joder the Act. No As regards repayment all the loans to calle of unautHorised retention of com­ States for Plan schemes· are recover~ble mission by any company regi'tered in in 1S years, Relief in the debt bUrd,n India, in Swiss banks or other foreign of the States is provided by the Central banks, has ~otne to the .notice of the En­ G'0verQment from time to time on the forcement Directorate during the ."st basis of tho recommendations of tbe /three years. FlDan~ Commisaion. Bharglng -of Hlgber Rate of Interest from States ()r Foreign Banks Evasion lOr ~evenue in Exporting Safety Matcbrs Out or Deihl 4798. SHRI ANIL BASU: WIH the Minister of FINANCE be pleased . 4799 SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. to"ltale : SIDDIQ: Will the Minister of plNANCE be pleased to sta te : (a) whether it is a fact that on forrign borrowmgs, the Union Government charge (a) whether safety matches ar~ ex­ from the State Governments a higher rde ported from Delhi to the neighbouring of interest than the Union Government to States in buge quantity daily defraudmg , the foreign lenders; the Government of the revenues like sales and income-taxes of crores of rupees as (b) "whether stipulated period of there is no sales tax on matches ID repayment of such loan for the State Delhi; Governments are shorter than what the foreign lender has agreed to for the Union (b) if so. the steps proposed to be Government; and . taken to check (his evasion of revenue; .

(c) if 80, the reasons therefor ? (c) whether there is any proposaJ t~ levy sales tax o~ matches in Deihl; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI-aRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (d) if not, the reasons thereof? JANA~DHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c). Central Government raises funds from many sources to finance lts Plan and to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE provide Central assistance for State Plans, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI e"ternal 10dOS being onJy" one such source, JANARDHANA POOJARY) (a) Intern J borrowing by Central Governrllent Sales Tax authorities in Delhi are not ca rries interest at 1 1 .5 ' m~¥rom Delhi to the deposits. Interest on IBRD loans is also neighbouring stas.·· on which 'here is nearJy 9%. no local Salea Tax. The Income Tax authotities have also no information in State Governments are charged interest this reaard. at the rate of 8% rer annum on loans ror the!! Plan Schemes, A rebate· of 1/40;0 (b) The question docs Dot lUiao. is allowed ror timel), repayment and interest payment. Central assiStance for Slate Plans (including assilt,nee for ex .. (c) and (d). The Delhi Administra.. temaJly aided projects) is not given in lion have informed tbat representations the' form of loans only. Normally 30 % in tbis reaard have receftl1y been received is provided 8S outriaht granta and 70% as by tbe Administration wbi;cb are uJu;ler loan •• lbei'r examinatioD. 101 Written An$wers BHADRA 1.. 19

News Item Caltloned "Bops BaDk (e) if so, when and the action taken LoaD Cues De'ec~ed·' by the Reserve Bank of India after 'tbe receipt of tbe said note from the State , 4FOO. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Bank of India. 'Witt the Minister of FINANCE b.e=. pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (a) whether Government have SeeD JANARDHANA POOJARY) (a) the news-item "BOlUS bank Joan cases Yes, Sir. detected" appearing in "Economic Times'" of 21st June, 1985; (b) and (c).. Mis Intercorp Associ- ates and Mis Sh~ktiman Enterprises were (b) if so, the details thereof; and granted certain biJls discounting limits .at Bombay (Colaba) branch of Canara Bank drawn on (c) whether Government hJlve taken and these bills were another aT y action against the Manager of the sister concern Investments and Ventures Consolldated- at BangaJore. These were issuing bank and the comission agent? co.acce.p'ed by the DaogsJore (Shivaji­ THE M}NISTER OF STATE IN THE nagar) branch of State Bank of India. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI The bills \\ere discounted from June, JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to 1984. When tbe bJUs matured in Dece­ (c). Yes, Sir. The allegation mainly mber J 984, fre~h bills were discounted Icfers to fraudulent actIVIties in advanc­ and earher bHls \vfTC adjusted. In Feb­ ing crop loan. No specific bank Of bor­ ruary 1 985 a.1I bllts were paid before rower has been mentioned in the news mat urity out at fund~ receIved from Ban­ item. However, Reserv~ Bank; of India galore. At present there are no liabilities has been asked to get the matter of (he unit at Bcmbay (CoJata) branch of in~estigated. Canara Bank. However, 8C(.ordlng to the Reserve Bank of Jndia, there had been News-Item Captloned-"Dank Helps serious nregularjtjes in the sanction and Swindle Other Banks" operation of the accounts.

4801. SHRI KALI PRASAD The transactions in the accounts of M /s PANDEY: Intercorp As~ociates and M /s Shakuman SHRI MURL1DHAR MANE: Enterprises Ble linked to the' fraud of Rs. 3.50 crOTes at the Bangaloro (Shivaji­ wm the Mini~er of FINANCE be nagar) branch of State Bank of India. pleased to state : M/s. Intercorp Associates were having a current account at that branch also and the Branch Manager was pUrchasing che_. (a) .-bether he has seen a ~re8s report captioned 'Bank helps sWlDdle Ques (or large amounts in the account another bank' appearing"in the Indian Ex­ lln8uthorisect In February~ 1985, he press' of 21st July. 1985; purc.hased seven cheques for In aggregate amount of Rs 3.50 crores from the party (b) if so, the facts tbereof; drawQ on Oriental Bank of Commerce, New Delhi, but the cheques were retumed unpaid atW the branch was aadled with (c) the particulars of officials of the dues amountina to Rs. 3.S0 crores, Out Caoars Bank, Colaba Branch, Bombay of the proceeds of the above cheques pur­ and its other branches in otl;Jer parts of ch_sed from tbo party, the liabilitjes to the country alleged to be inVOlved in the Colaba (Bombay) branch of Canara Bank deal and the action taten aaainat them; were cJeared tbrouah tbe bank's Banga­ Jore (Laoafotd 1own) branch. At the end (d) whether it ia a fact that tbe StaCe of May 1 's" tbe outll8odinp in (he S.nk of India bad submitted a note to patty'. a~ount at State Benk of IDd~ the Reserve Bank of India in this cooec­ Bana.lore tShivajiDaaar) branch \\-ere Rs. tiOft: and 3'6.47 lakh8. The State Bank of )1l018 103 Writtt'n Answer" AUG~ST 23, 1985 Written Answers- 104

bas placed the Manager and the Accoun- They have howover, admitted that their . tant of the Branch under 8uspensioh It results are based OD numerous assumptofns bas lodged an. FIR with local police and Jlnd approximations, each of which could has also filed a cOPlpl.lInt with the C BJ. be challenged. CaQa.ra Bank has adVised the Reserve Bank of India that it does not find any Flight Of Capita' From Indha To reason to eJtamine ~h~ staff aspect to fi)t Foreign CoulJtrles And BaDks resIDnsibiJity for the transactions as there has been no I4pse and their advances 4803. SHRI D.N. RBDDY: Will stand fully reco.vered. the Minister OF FINANCE be pleased (d) and (e). State Bank of India has to state: rep'rted a fraud of RIJ, 3.50 crores at its Bangaiore (Shlvajmagar) branch, On (a) whether Government are aware leceipt of a report from the State Bank of of the flIght of capital from India to India, Reserve Bank of India conducted foreign countraci and banks ; scrutinY.J)f the accounts or concern" at Bangalore (Shlvajinagdr) branch of State (b) If SOt the estimates for the last Dank of India and B n~aJore (Langfl)rJ three ye:Hs, year-wise; Town) and Bombay (Colab I) branchel) of (c) whether the foreign banks in IndlJ Can1rl Bank dunng MdfchfApnl. 198~, arc hclpmg the flight of cap Ital ; The Irregulantles nOll ... ed ci unng the scrutmy hJve been p0101ed out to the (d) whether Government propor;;~ to banks and the R,B, I. IS takmg the neces­ ne«otltate With SWISC; bankCi to disdose sary follow-up actIOn, Re~erve Bank of the accounts of Indian Nationals Illegally India has nlo;o cdutloned all ~LhedlJlt!d held there, as had been done by France commercial banks abo'Jt the d~almgs of and USA? the concerns connected With the p.,HUlcrs of M/ s lntercorp Associates. THE MINISTER OF STA rE IN THE E'!Itimate of mack Money acc'lrding MINISTRY OP FINANCE (SHRI to different committe~," JANARDHANA POOJARY) , (a) While vlola(10nS of FERA regul.:ttions 4tsOl. SARI GADADHAR SAHA come to notice from tame to time and Will lhe Mml~tt:r of FINANCE be pleased are dealt WIth severely, there is no to state the estimated pr~.,enl black question of any flight of capita) as such money 10 11dla accordmg to different takmg pJ&.ce from India to foreJ.gn -commll tees, commiSSions and experts countries and banks. R,B.I, keeps a year-wi'ie during 195 ~-54, 1968-69, close watch over foreign' exchange 1976 77, 1978-79, 1980-84 1 transactions and operaltons by all ballks, forolsn banks. and measures THE! MINlSTER OF STAlE IN THE incl\ldsna are taken as necessary to ensure that MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI illegal transfef) are curbed' and severo JANARDHA~A POOJ \RY). The action taken agamst offellders. E~timates Cotnmlttee (1980.8t-7th Lok Sabha I had recommended that the OO\'\tmment should attempt an estlmale (b) and (c). Do not arise. of black money in IndIa ~AccordlQgly, under the National InC\tltute of Public Fandnce (d) No such Pl'Rpo$aJ is conSideration ( of Oovc:rnmcut at tho and Pohcy have mad~ the foUowmg estimafes or foliowin!J yeatrs : presenl t Irne ...

Year Ran~ of black Per~entage of Proppsa\ to lm''''''~ 8UUeti~ pf IDCbme 0 res s Domes tic Wanchoo Committee and National (R8 in 'crores) Pr.oduct I~itu~~pf ,fA~.ad i'~Y

1975-76 9958 tol1870 1 S to' 18 4~04, SHR,t ViJA" KUMAft. 1980.81 20J62 to 23678' 15 to i8 MISHRA : Will the Minis-tor OF 198~ 84 31584 to 36786 18 to 21 FINANCE be pleased to Itate : lOS Written AnlWt" BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Writltln Answ,,, 1 06

till whetber foccntJly tlleased sepon (b) if so, whet,bcr steps arc being on aspects of the black money iti India taken to save the only jute mill in Orissa envisages severe control OD the operation from beina closed down ? of black money ; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether in view of the suggestion of MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TBX. the Wanchoo Committee. Government TtL1ES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR propose to discontinue to resort to any SINGH): (a) and (b}. It is felt that form of voluntary disclosure ; and th~ Hon' ble Member is referring to K()narak Jute Mill Ltd., "Dhanmandal (Orissa) which is a joint Venture of State (c) whether there is any proposal to owned Industrial Development Corpora.. imptement the suggestion of Wanchoo tion of Orissa and National Agricultural Comml ftee and those of the Notional Cooperative Marketing Federation. This Institute of Finance and Poliey ? Mill is reported to be incurring losses from lh. year it went into production in 1979 THF MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and is thus facing financial crisis. The MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Mill is runnIDg at about 70 per cent JANARDHANA POOJARV): (a) The cap~city. Financial institutions and report of NaClonal Institute of Public banks have been ",oved by the Mill Finance and Pollcy on "Aspect'> of the Company to provide necessary relief and black economy an IndIa" has been received assistance to the company to keep it by the Government recently. The funning and make it viable. report is now an easily accessible document. 1 he contents of the report Value of Imported Damaged Machfoes are no lODger secret. and Import LiceDCeS granted to pure drinks, Mobnn Ma­ (b) No scheme of voluntar), dis­ chines and CrOWD Company closure IS under the consideration of the Government at present. 4806. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will the MiDist~r of COMMERCE be (c) The suggestion of the Wonchoo pleased to state : Committee have already been considered and implemented to the eKtent feasible. As regards the Implementation of tbe:

(b) Inrorm,tion is given in Statement-I (c) Names are given in Statement-II giveD below. SiVOD below,

Statement.]

The names 0/ firms, value oj imported machinery damaged in November 1984 disturbances and value ()f Import licences ISsued

Name of the firm Value of imported Value of import machinery damaged licence issued (including -duty, as reported by the firms) •

1. Mis. lure Drinks ('New Dolhl) Ltd.. New Delhi. Rs. 21 Jakhs Rs, 2,40,00,000

2. Mjs. Mohan Machines Ltd., New Delhi. Rs. 71akhs Rs, 65,00,000/-

3, MIs. Kool c.r.Q Corks Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi. Rs, 91akhs Rs. 70,00,000/-

4, MIs, Ceo JI)' CrowQ C<.'rks Mfg. Co. Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi. Rs. 8 lakhs Rs. 60,00,000/-

Statement-II Measure taken for Growth of Hand­ loom Industry The 'Nlmes of firms who~e machine­ ries were damaged In the Novem- . 4807. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: bert 1984 disturbances and win the Minister of SUPPLY and TEX. to whom import licences TILES be pleased to state : have been issued for (a) 'ifhether Government have been more than Rs. t~n m_ing efforts for the growth of hand- lakhs. 100m lDdustry in different States;

1. MIs. Pure Drillk& (New DeIbi) Ltd, (b) if so, the amount allocated to New Delhi. dltferent States in 1984-8S and 19S5-86 for this purpose; 2. MIs. Mohan Macbi~s Ltd" New Delhi. (c) the incentive provided to the artists involved in handloom products in Orissa 3. MIs. Kool CrOWD Corks Pvt. Ltd., and other States .in those years; and New DeIhl. (d) the (\otaila of the measures proposed 4. MIs, Cee Jay Crown Corks Mfa. to be undertaken for the arowtb of haDd~ Co. Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi. loom industcy in the cOUDtry in Seventh Five Year Plan? 5. Mis. Dolbi Colours (P) Ltd, New Delhi. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ 6. Mil. KAI"oor Air Product. Pvt. Ltd. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SH.EK.HAR • New Delhi. SINGH) :. (a). Yel, Sir • 109 Wrllltn Alllwrl BHAORA 1 t 19~7 (SA~A) Wrllten A.nswers ] 10

(b) Since most .t the handloom deve. the 7th Five Year Plan~ Besides, as sti. lopment schemes are implemented OD the pulated in tbe national Textile Pol icy of basis or matching assistance from the June, 19 8S, greater "'emphasis win be ~ntral and State GovernrMnts. the placed on the modernisation or looms aDd release of CpDtral share is dependent on transfer of technology, adequate avail.. the actual (luanfum of funds released by ability of raw materials at reasonable tbe State Governments, Therefore, tho prices through the operations of the Central aaistance is .-eleased to tbe State National Handloom Development Corpo­ ,Governments duriD~ the year on tbe basis ration etc., encouraging production of of the releases made by them. A STATE­ mb,ed and blended fabr~s, strict enforce­ MENT sbpwing the actual amounts re­ ment of the provisions of the new Reser­ leased to different States during 1984-85 vation Act, removal of cost handicap of is given below. The corresponding figures bandlooms vis-a-vI3 powerlooms by suit­ for the year 1985-86 will be available able fiscal measures, transfer of the entire only at the end of the financial year. production of controlled c;loth from the mill sector to the handloom sector by the (c) No special incentives are provided end of the 7th Plan, strengthening of data by t~ Central Governmellt to artists base and conducting of census,strengthen­ involved in handloom produc ts in the ing of machin6r for im,ementation. States, However, a scheme of giving supervision and evaluation of handloom national awards for master craftsmen. prograrnme~. improving qf infrastructure which include the weavers, is being imple for marketing etc. Moreover, with a view mented by the Central Government. to increase the commitment of th.e band­ loom weavers to the non .. exploitative (d) The main thrust of the development organisational struct ure and to improve of handloom sector ttirough the organisa­ their working conditions, certain welfare tional frame work of the cooperatives and measures like contributory' Thrift I'und the State handloom deve!Dpmcnt cBrpora­ Scheme and Workshed-cum.i4!uaing lions, is proposed to be continued during scheme have also beeD launched. 111 Written Answers AUGUST 23, t 98S Written Answer.. t t 2

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Baa 011 export of frog leas ort of frog Jegs C8 n ea t abou t stics are available upto February 1 ~ 83. 8.10,000 tonne mO'iquitos and field Provitamins and vitamins, vegetable insects which in turn will save crops from alkaloids, harmones, natural or repro­ being damaged and check the spread of duced by synthesis, derivatives thereof malaria: and not put up as' medieaments, antibiotics, glycosides glands or other (b) whether there is dnnget of spread organs, medicaments, pharmaceutical malaria in the country and the environ. goods, other than medicaments., etc, have ment being polluted, if this export is not been impOt t ed for Rs. 83.5 crores banned; (approx,) upto February 1983, from China, German Federal Republic, Japan, (c) if so, whether Government U,K" U,S,A., France, Canada, etc. propose to ban the export of frog legs; Separate figures-itemwise and country­ and wise are not available, Most of the imports are by' Government sector. (d) if not, the detailed reasons there­ for? (b) During the last three years, hospitals find medical institutions, any THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE indivi6!ual and registered medical practiti­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI oners have been permitted to import for P,A. SANGMA): (a) to (d) There rs own use the medicines at anyone time DO authentic report on such view said to for C.I.F, value not exceeding have been expressed by Dr. G· M. Oza Rs, 25,000/-, Rs. t ,000 f- and There is no concrete evidenC'e to the . Rs S,OOO! - respectively, subject to con. effect that if eKport of frog legs is not ditions laid down This policy has been banned, there is danger of spread of continued during the period 1985-88. malaria and pol1ution of environment. It is, however, the constant t:ndeavour It is not proposed to ban this eKport, of the Government to increase the indi .. as Govt. \ have taken various measures genous production of medicines in' short for cOnservation of ·resources and re~tric­ suppJy. tion of exports of froglegs, which help prevent indiscriminate catching and killing Nadonal strategy to raise the of frogs. pro"uct iOD of cotton • I 1Transl!ltlon] 4810, SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAlK : Purchase of medicines from abroad SHlU SATYi::NDRA widell .re d6llared harmful NARAYAN SINHA: SHRI ANAND SINGH: 4809. SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATURVEDI : Will the Minister of wm the ~ister of SUPPLY AND CQMMERCE be pleased to state : TEXTILES .. pleated '0 ..te : 117 Written Answers lJHADltA 1. 19.07 (SAK.A) Written Answers ll8

(a) whether his Ministry baa evolved (c) About 80 lakh hectares. a national strate IY to J1lise tbe overall production of couon froUl the present (lath hectares) level or 71-18 lakh bides to 9 S lakb (d) (i) Establilhed irri. 18,00 bales by the ond of Seventh Five Year gated at~a8 Plan ; (ii) Area in canal 5.00 commands (b) if ,0, the dleasures proposed to be adoptQd for the above purpose duria. (iii) Rain .. fed areas S6.20 that Plan period; (iv) Non-traditional 0.80 (c) the total hectares of land in areas and 'rice­ different cotton growiol States proposed fallows. to be brought undetr cotton cultivation during the above Plan period ; and Trade Agreements with Trinidad and, Tobago . (d) the details thereof? 4811. SHRI E.AYYAAPUREDDY: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be THE MINISTER ,OF STATE IN THE pleased to state : MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES (SHRf CHANDRA SHEKHAR (a) whether any trade agreement has SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. This work is done been signed between India and Trinidad by Ministry of Agriculture. and Tobago recently;

(b) to (d). Information collected (b) if so, the terms of tbo agreement; through the Ministry of Aariculture is given in attached statement. (c) the items of exports from India, agreed upon; and Statement (d) the total quantum of trade bet­ ween tbe two countries ? The information collected from Ministry of Agricult.,.re is gi\lcn below :-' THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. (b) Production and dist ribution of SANGMA) : No, Sir. certified seed, distribution plant pr()tec.. tion equipment $erial spraying against (b) and (c). Do not arise. r est! and diseases, demonstarations on -improved production technology, fixation {d) The qUl\ntum of trade between of support price and arrangements for India and Tainided and Tobago during procurement of kapas. , the last fc~ years is given below :

(Rs. in lakbs)

Yar Exports Imports Balance of Trade 1981-82 194.28 0.2'7 . <+) 194.01 1982.. 83 321.00 <+) 321.00 1983.84· 617.00 15.00 (+) .f)02.0~ . 1984~8S· 199,,00 1033.00 (-) 834.00 (April.~. 84)

·PJ,urea are provJiiooaJ and .ub~t to revWOD. I 119 Written Answers A~GUST 23, 1985 \

Medlan'_ to Control Quality of Stainless because there is enoulh spindJage in tbe Steel Produeta country ic is Dot necessary to live any financial aJsistance to new SpiDDing mill,: 4812. SHRI N. TOMBr SINGH: Will the Minister of STEBL, MINBS AND (b) if 80, whether this bas ca~ed COAL be pleased to state : severe difficulty to tho new mills wbich are under constr~ction in Maharashtra; (a) wbether Government have any . mechanism to cOntrol tbe Quality of (C::) whetb~ the Maharasbtra Govern- .tainless steel products being sold in the ment have urged the Union Government market; to reconsider tbe matter; and

(b) if so, tho details thereof; and (d) if so, the reaction ,of Union Government in this regard? (c) if not, whether Government pro­ pnse to introduce a mechanism to check THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the overftow of substandard/imitated MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHiH stainless steel products in the market ? JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). Tne financial institutions have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE taken a decision not to finance new spinD­ DEPRTMBNT OF STEEL (SHRt K. ing mill projects considerlD~ the fact tbat NATWAR SINGH): (a) to (c), At sufficient capacity has already been created present there is no exclusive mechanism or is under implemeneation." They have, to control the quality of stainless steel however, decided to pr~ss the proposals products. However, the production of which were already under their considera.. stainlesR steel in the Alloy Steels Plant, and made progress. Institutions Dursapur and Salem Steel Plant is assured tion had have cleared 10 proposals of new spinning by chemical analysis and cheeking of pbysical and chemical properties at various units in the State of Maharashfra dUflog stages of production. Manufacturers of the last five years, tbe consumer products may, at their opt ion, adopt lSI Certification marks (c) and Cd). The Maharashtra Govern­ which assures a wen defined syster\1 of ment hJlve written in some cases for inspection, testing and quality control providing financial a8si~tance to the spiDn~ during production. To faCtlitate the pro­ ing mills. Government of India have, dUce~ to produce quality products, however decided that consIdering the Government of India has set up~ availability of capacity already created or Small Industries Service Institutes, which is in tbe pipeline it will not be Extension Centres, Ilegional Testing pMHble for fiaaocial institutions to pro.. Centres and Field Testing Stattons, The vide usi*DOe to 8D~ now spinniog units. Institmes/Centres advi~ the producers about the rhedlanism of inspection etc: Income. tax Arrears

There is presently no proposal for 4814. SHRI NARSJNH MAK- iDtrefituctioD of any additional measures WANA: Will the Minister of FINANCE to control the quality of stalnless steel be dleased to state : producta. t"'e total amount of income-tax "'-dal ASllstaaee to New Spinning which could not be realised durinl Mills In Maharasbtra the years 198'2.83, 1983,,84, 1984-8.5 alon"with eM &umber of the penoDS 4813. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB against whom I, remained outstanding; PATtL : WIf1 ~the MjDi8t~r of FINANCB be pleased to statc : (b) the...,. taken to realite tl;\e out... .tanding amount or tho taxes and the (a) whether it is a ra~t that the finan­ amout realised out Gf thall aa nMtt« cial institutions baft t.teen a decision th6t -tMte nO,.; ..d I BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

(c) the Dumber O( the persons from to jail in this conection ? whom taxes were rea.Jised by dispoSiog of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE their ptopertj~s and the number of the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI p~son8 who were apprehended and .ent JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a)

(In crores of rupees)

Financialy Year Tax in Demand created· No, of asseSses ending arrears but not tallen (Entries) due

1982 .. 83 844.93 62'5.0 I 28,26.975

1983-84 902.46 907.57 28,95,135

1984·85 117) ,48 1347.92 figures not yet received.

(b) The locofrJe tax Act I Q61 pro­ defaulter to civil impnsonment etc. De­ vides for severals steps for enforcing pending upon the facts and circumstances collect ion and recovery of 'Tax in arrears· of each case sUitable steps are taken from such as levy of penalty, attachment of time to time The amount reduced out of monie'l due to the defaulter, distraint and arrear (by collection and/or adjustment) sale of movable property, committing the during the last 3 yea:-s is as under :

(In crOfes of Rupees)

Financial Year Amount collected/redl,Jced out of arrear demdnd 1982-83 568.48

1983· 84 679.64

1984.85 1104.47 (Provisional)

(c)

Financial No. of the persons No. of doCau1ters Defaulters Year from wbom taxos apiaat whom committed' were realised by arfCIt proceediols to prilQo dispOSt!lJ of tbeir initiated Pl'operties

1 2 3

1982.83 16 1745 1~83 .. 84 41 193 .. 1984.. 8$ ~11 644 yProylaion.l) .123 Written A1ISWIrs AUGUST 23. 198~

[EngliJh] THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN TttB MINISTRY OF" COMMERCE (SHRl . Holdi81 Com,pauy lor State T1'8dina P.A. SANGMA): It fact t Corporation and Minerals .tad (a) is a tbt the Additional Director, Export Ins­ Metals Trading Corporation pection Agency, Delh i in the meeting with the officers held on 26th March, 4815. SURI RAMS\VAROOP RAM: 1985 came to know that there bad been Will tbe Minister of COMMERCE be cases involving abort/non-accouDtal of pleased to state : inspection fee in Export InsJ)'ection Agency. Delhi during 1984.85 and (a) whether there is a proposal to. set improper roainteoance of accounts up a holding company for public sector thereto. trading organisations like the State Trad .. ing Corporation and the Minerals and (b) ttl the meetins which AdditonaJ Metals TradlQg Corporation; Directol y. Export Inspection Agency .. Delhi had with his Q.fficers on 26th (b) if so, the details of tbe scheme March, 1985 he advised them to take drawn up in tbQ"ma tter; nnd steps to' prevent such inci4ents i~ future and also to enforce effective supervision (c) when it will be brought into by the officers. But he did not take forc..e? any action against the erring. officers employees who were responsible for , &uch lapeses. THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. (c) The AddJtional Director is on SANGMA) : (a) to (c). The funcation­ leave and will resume duty on 31 5t ing of State Trading CorportloD and August, 1985. 1-I1S explanation as to Minerals & Metals Trading Corporatton wby he did Dot take any action against including their status IS under constant the erring officers 'employees and also review. why he did not bring thea irregularities to the notice of t he DIrector (Inspection [Trallslation] & Quality Control), Expnft Inspection Fee For Inspection By Expor~ Council, New Delhi will be called for. Inspection Agency Delhi (d) Keeping in vjew the magnitude 4816.~ SHRI SANfOSH KUMAR of lapses on the part of the miDisterial SINGH Will the Minister 0" staff who were responsible to account COMMERCE be pJeased to state : for the inspection fee in proper manner and also the ~fticers who were (a) whether Ex;port Inspection Agency also responsible to exercise the checks Delhi had received information lD over the fuuctioDiD8 of theso employees, March. that inspection fee whlcb was 3 officers ('!roup A-2, & Group B.. J ) supposed to be charpd from exporters and 5 Group ·C~ ministerial employees at the time of inspection was not wero placed under suspension and received; Rcau1ar Departmental Action have been initiated against them.

{b) if 10, that reaSODS for Dot lakiDI [English] any aellon by Addition Director even on lettiDg umeJy inform. ion. Export of Iron Ore or BarablI BarJmda Sector of Orissa (c) -.&he action taken .,.iost tbe Additionar'Dircctor ,or not t_kina action 4817. SH~I BRAJMOHAN MOHAN. in time; and 1Y: Wi.1I the Minister of COMMBRCE be please to Iqte : (d) the reasons for auspeodin. lower (a) whether the itoQ--ore of &rabi1 .. level employees ? BarjmCla leCtor of Ori... is doUvered at BHADRA 1, J907 (SAKA) Wrltttn Answers. 126

Parac1ip Port for export .at the average Jhankapura and Daitari has already been price 22. per tonne of ore and .wbeth~r completed and 'opened to traffic. ~ railway freiaht from Barabll ~fa I(.haragpur is. ilS much as 120/.. and the Refusal of N ABARD to RecognJse Advana\S Port and handlins charges at Rs. 47 {­ for Construction 01 GodowllS h as per tODne ; ApteultuM AdvaDce

(b) whetHer JhanlCapura BaJ1sb~ni 4818 SHRJ JITENDRA PRASADA: railway line being complete connectnig wm th~ Minister of FINANCE be Barabil to Paradip Via Baitari is pleased to state : proposed to be reduced to 330 kilome­ tres instead of 660 Kllometr~s and the· (a) whether NABARD has refused freight reduction witt be around Rs. 60/.. to recognIse advances given for con­ per tonn~ ; struction of godowos for storage of foodgrains only as agriculture advance; (c)' whether his Ministry are con.. templdting any steps to reduce the (b) whether Government investment transport charges so that the export of of nearly 8,000/- crores in purchasing Iron-ore would be more competitive f06dgraihs by giving a' support price in and wheat oniy is facing damage and dec;truction duc to non-availability of ~ . (d) whether his Ministry have urged storage space ; and upon the Rnftway Minisfry to complete the total railway line as soon as possible (c) the action Government propose so that mintng and expnrt business will to take to make easy finance availabJe fioufJ~h in that part of the country? on low interest for augmenting the storage capacity for foodgtams ? THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. SANGMA) (a) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Average FOBT price: of iron Ore MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI from Barbil-Barajamada Sector of Orissa JANAROHANA POOJARY) : (a) to is Rs. 220,3 J per tonne which lDeludes (c). No, Sir. NABARD has not reufsed average railway freight of Rs. 113 00 to recognise advances given for COD­ from BarblJ via Kharagpur and the struction of godowns for storage of food­ average port and handling charge are grains as agricultural advances. NABARD Rs.48.46. pr6vidu support to bpnks by way of refinance in respect of their ad v ances for construction of godowns in rural (b) The rail link between Jhank­ area! by individuals, partnership firms, pura and Banspani is expected t\) reduce joint stock companies. State Warehousing distance between Barbil and P~radlp Corporations for the storage of to 330 Kms. At the current tariff rate agricultural oommodities. Recently the the rail freight for distance be about will Food Corporations of India had Rs. 70j .. per tonne. • approached NABARD witb a Scheme for extending refinance support Cor {C} Yes Sir. construction of t miUion toni storago ,odown capacity b, private parties to

(d) This matter baa been under r be leased to the. Corporatjon. The consf~ration of tho Railway Ministry, matter was consjdered by the" Board of and, cODstruction of a new Broad Guage NABARD and a decision was taken that IiDe; 'CrOlD 1hankapura to Bansbani, the commercial baoles could extend covering 176 Kms., has been aaoctigded finanCial support for tbo purpose from 1lnd phase.1 of this project QomprisiD& their owe resources without depending of the 33 Xmt. distaac:o between oil rom.llCO from NABAflD. 12. 7 Written Answers

[Translation] For the year 1984-85. 189 'cues were sanctioned alainst tbe tar~t of 1 7 S in. Targets Laid Down for Banks ID the Arne district. Tho operative period Atmor. And P;thorgarb Distrids of the Scheme has been extended for Under Self Employment the current ftnanciaJ year, only recently, Guarantee Scheme dala for the year 1985.. 86 is not yet 4819. SHRt HARISH RAWAT ~vailable. Witt the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : Removal of Development o«l~ of L.I.C. from service for Dot • • achJe'fJng target (a) the target laid down for various bank& in Almora and Pithoragarh .4820. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 4isttlcts of Uttar Pradesh un

THE MINIS 1ErR OF STATE IN THE (f) if not, the measures proposed to MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI be tl\ken by Government to provide JANt\RDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to means of livelihood for tbeir families ? (e). Presumably, the Hon'ble Me~~r is refering to the Scheme for providing THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE self.. employment to the educated MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI unemployed youth which was introduced JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yes in tbe year 1983·84. The present data Sir. During tbe. financial year 1984.85 reporting system under the Scheme docs some Dt;velopmcnt Officers of L.I.C. not aeaeratce bank-wise information for were removed from aervico for not each district. However, as per the conforming to the expense limit. which is information available from the State witb referencc to premium incoQlo on Government. tbe banks had sanctioned iDBurance business secured by thom,"'.. 285 applications against the taract of 270 prescribed in the Lite Insurance Corpo. in the ~eat 1983 .. 84 ia tbe District of ration of IDdia (Staff) R.qulatiolJl, 1960. Almora. For tbe yeIlt 1984.8S, .281 applications were sanctioned by banks (b) Tile DUmber of lucb ofIictmI' is Ilaimt the taraet of 275 in the same 38. dIstriCt. Ira the Dl8triect of Pitboraatrll, 1 77 cases were sanctioned 'PIGSt the (c) to (f). OIl remo9al from...viee, 'raget of 170 (or the year 1983 .. 84. the eiDployeea of tbe Corporation are 129 Written Answ,rs. Bf'AnRA I, 1907 (:!iIlJC.II) WrItten Answers l;'U

,paid terminal honeSts like gratuity, Pro­ (c) . The Ministerial Meeting adopted videqt Fund, etc. two declarations-one 00 Global System of T.ra4e Preferences (OSTP) and the other ()ll lntofDfltioaal TradiPI Environ­ The Dev"loprn~nt Office,rs are removed ment affecting tbe Trade of the Develop­ from service only after _dequate oppor­ tunity is given to them to conform to ing ~ountries. the prescribed e~pcpse limit, Hence,llt is 10 the declaration on GSTP, tbe not possIble to reinstate them tn the same Ministers 'Wreed that the Negotiatjng cadre. liowever, tbey may be considered Committee on GSTP should consider in for appointment in Class III posts. addition to the tradilional pro4u~Y product approach, certain complementary [English] eJementsfor the elaboration of techniques and modaIitiea for the first round Meetlrag on Global System of of GS'[P negotiations. These com.. Trade Preferences plementary el~ments are : (i) across the board tariff reduction through . 4821.• SHRI CHINTA MOHAN a . preference margin upto 10%; Will 'he MiOlster' of COMMERCE be ol(ii) removal ~r r:duction on non-tariff pleased to state : and para-tariff measures including an " , undertaking by participating countries not (a) whether a Ministerial meeting on to raise new non~.. tariff barriers or Global System of Trading Prefercmces iqtensify the existing ones, in respect of took place in New Delhi on 25th Ju'y. product on which tariff concessions have 1985 as reported in the 'Hindus tan Times' been negotiated ; (iii) special attentIOn of 26th July 1985 ; to sectors of signicant socio-economic importance to the partiQpating countries (b) jf so, the details of aims objects such as non-textiles handi.crafts, pro­ purpose and scope of its deliberation; (essed tropical products, textilet and at" ricultural products and (IV) organisa­ (c) whGlber any recommendations · )'0 of product consu1tations to promote emerged out of tbe meeting so how these l Ide and deveJopment through a greater al e proposed to be pUf5ued by the new degree of processing, dis! ributioD and Chairman; and marketing among developing aountries. The Minis$ers recognised the urgent need (d) whether earlier recommendaiipns for the establishment of an· overall legal of non-alligned nations- in this sphere will framework within which. the ground rules continue' 10 be adhered in the coming for the negotiations would be incorpo­ years? rated. The Ministers also agreed on a time table for tbe. negotiations which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE inter-alia envisages tha~ the first round MINIST&Y OF COMMERCE '(SHRI of negotiations should commence not P.A. SANGMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. The later than 1 May, 1986. meeting took pJace on 2Sth and 26th July, 1985. In the Declaration on Internati~nal Trading Environment, the Ministers have (b) The main objective oflhe meeting Inter-alia (i) re~ffirmed their 'commit­ was to live political thrust to the OD­ ment to full adherence to the principles, going process of ne&otiatiom~n Olobal rules and regulations of multilateral System of Trade Preferences (GSTP) and tradins syAtcm and trade liberalisation; to carry forward tbe process of finalisa­ (ii) caJled upon tbe international com. tion of ground rules for GSTP. TI\e munity to take steps for convening an meeting reviewed tho progress in tbe international conference on Money and implemematioft of tbo GSTP and also F~Danco for Development aiming at developments in the international trad­ fundameolal reform of the international ina environment affcctinl dovelopinl monetary and BnaDeial system ; aDd (iii) coQlltriet. urpd the developed QOuntriel to join in a 1 J 1 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 1~8S Written Answers . t 32 di.lIogue to give a renewed thrust to THE MINISTER OF STATE TN THE internatiODal economic cooperation. MINISTRY OF FIN ANCE .. (SHRI JANARDHANA POOl ARY) : (a) to ThCl recom~ndations on OSTP are (c)., "New Bank of India has reported expected to be pursued by the Nesotiating th2Y branch-wise and category-wise Committee of the pa1'ticipating countries figures • of officers and the total number on OSl'P .• The recommendation~ relating of Scheduled Caste/Scheduled Trib, to the.. international trading environment officers among them is not readily avail­ ate expected to be followed up by the able as the same is being maintained at developin& countries in relevant interna­ Regional Officers level. The total number tional forums. of .. officers serving in various branches I offices of the bank as on 31 12 84 wen 2,741. Out of them 20 to (d) Th~ Economic Declar.tion adopted beJ~nBed by the Conferehce of the Heads of State Scheduled Caste and 2 belonged to Sche.. or Government of 'he Non·Allgned duled Tribes. Four Schedulet Caste Countries held in New <'Delhi in March -officers all in the JMG Scale.1 are pre­ 1983, inter-alia, called for successfo~ sen~ly posted in the branches/offices of and speedy conclusion of the Negotia­ the bank 10 'the UnJon Territory of Deihl. Smce reservation in the c~dre of officers tions aD GSTP in accordance with the is on aU India Fasis, the quc~tlon of principles. rules and time table agreed upon in the Oeclaration adopted at 'he reserved posts lying vacant in Delhi will 6 th meeting of the Ministers (>f Foreiso not arJse. On the all Indi~ ba"Js, the bank has reported that the back. log in Affairs of the Group of ·77' held In New the var,oucC grade~ of officer~ in the bank York 10 October, 1982. The MIl)I~lerial to which direct recruitment is made \\a~ meeting on GSTP held 10 New Delhi , as on 31st December, 1984, 13 in the reaqirmed the commitmt.nt to the Declaration on OSTP adopted at New case of Scheduled Castes and i 0 lfl the York, case of Scheduled Tribes. In the case of posts filled by promotion, .Jhe backlog on that date was 10 for tbC' Scheduled Ca~te [Translation] and 6 for Scheduled Tribe. sayS,. Officers serving in various BrllDc"'s of New Bank of India Regarding efforts made by the Bank . 4822. SHIH LALA RAM KEN: t& clear the back log, in respect of direct win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased recruitment, the bank has reported' that to state: it is including the same iIi its irdents placed on the Banking Service Recruit· ment Board. It) respect of promotions, (a) the total number of officers serv­ the seleCllon processes have been~ gone ing in vanous branchei of New Bank of through only once SlDce bipartite scttle­ India and the nun'\bcr of Scheduled Caste meflt in 198~ and reservations for and Sc'heduled TrIbe officers among them, Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tnbe branch.wise ; candidates were duly taken care or. The \ bank has reported that it will take steps (b) the number of officers belonging to clear the backlog in respect of promo .. to Scheduled Casles post WIse in tlon, to tAc extent possible, at the time of various branches of this bank in Delhi the next ~eJections. alongwith the number of reserved posts lying vacant and tt-e number of limes efforts were made to fill up the same -[English] durin, the last lhree yeau ; and Promotioo of SC 1ST employees ill STC (c) whether Government propose to clear the back.. log durio, the year 1 'lS5 4823. PROF. M,R. HALDER: and if so, the details in this regard and if Will the Minister of COMMERCE be not, th~ reasons therefor? pleased to state: 13 ~ wrtt,., 4116Mfrl BHAI)~A •f. 1907 (SAKA) Wrille'n Answers 134

(a) th. total tlUlllber of emplQy4es THB MINISTER OF STATE IN TIJB working iQ State Trading Corporation MINISTRY OF. fiNANCE (SHRI tbrOUlb out tbe bouotry ; JANARDHANA POOJAR).'): and (b). '''Wase revision for officers in public (b) the number or them who belong sector banks is not an issue for· negotia­ tiOQ or ~ett1ement with the associations of to Scheduled Caste aDd Scheduled tribe officers. However; as, per the practice, Communities; IndJan Banks' Association representing tbe manageDlents of banks had consultations (c) whether resetvatiott quota in pro­ with the m4jor umons representlOg the mot ion of employees is maintained by officers in public sector banks and had S.T.C. ; and thereafter forwarded these recommenda­ t~ons to Government. Government, after examining the recommendations. agreed (d) if so, t be details tbere"lf ? for a wage revision ill terms of which the wage bIll of officers is estimated to THE MINIStER OF STATE IN THE go up by about 13.5% and resulting if! MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHR.I an increase of about Rs. 80 crores per P A. S~NGMA) : (a) The total num­ year. ~er of employees working in the STC througl;l out the country is 2439. . Enactment of Subsidy to Weavers (b) The total number of emp)oJCe 4825. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES­ belonging to SC/ST commuDities is 282. WARA RAO : W.Il the Mimster of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to (C) and (d). Reservation quota is state : mamt8m~d in promotion. In time bound promotion such quota is not mamtamed. (a) the total amount given as subsidy SC ST are given preference by taking 1 at the rate of Rs. 2/- per metre of the year 4uahfymg period for such promotion cloth dlstnbuted as janata cloth for the at each stage. year 1983·84 and 1984.85;

Scales or Pay and Senice Conditions (b) the break up of this amount of Bank Officers' State. wise for the above two years; and

4824. PROF. MADHU DANDA­ (c) in view of the labour wages VAlE having gone up in the recent times, whether Government propose to enhance SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB the subsidy amount adequately to help PATJL: the handloom weaver~ and enable them Will the Minister of FINANCE be to get rea.onable returns ? pleased to state : THB"MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX. {a) Whethtr it is a fact that the scales TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR of pay aad service conditions of bank SINGS).; Ca> ThettotaJ amount 8iven officers arc, being revised without any as s\lbsidy on janata cloth to variou' form'll 6r informal bileteral neaotjatioal States duriDg 1983 .. 84 and 1984-85 was with the representatives of the association "Ra. 47.24 croteS and RI. !'S.28 cror~ of bank officers; add respectively. However, the rate of sub­ li4y was increased to Rs. 2/- per square (b) . jf so, wbether Govel'DltlCnt prO. metre with offect from lIt October. J 984. pose to lOttie tho issues reprding emo­ Barlier it was Rs. 1 tSO per square metre luments 'and service conditieDs tllrough with effect from lIt Jully, J981. bilateral talk. with the associationa of otBcen in banlca , (b) A State·wise .tatement showinl 1 3 S Written A_we,s t\UGUsr 23, 1985 Written AIISWen 136

the janata sUbsidy releasod during Rs. 1.50 pc:r square metre to R •• 2/­ · 1983.84 and 1-984 .. 8S is aiven below. per rquaro metre wJt~ effect from 1at • October, 1984, i.n view of the increase (c) TlJe subsidy was enhanced from in the. cost of inputs and wales,

Statement

Statement showing fhe Stale-wise amoum released as Janota Cloth Subsidy. (Rs. in lakhs)

SI. Name of the State/ 1983-84 1984-85 No. Union Territory

. 1 . Andhra Pradesh 304.52 539.02 2 Karnataka ... 132.72 188.90 3. ~erala t 9.68 20.04 4. Tamilnadu 553.73 690.33 5. Pondicherry 1. 1 l 6 Madbya Pradesh 199.81 296.84 7 Uttnr Pradesh 12S1.15 J 318.16 . 8. Bihar 589.45 738.22 9. Orissa 368.33 469.71 10. West Benaal 360.43 466.28 11 . Gujarat S6.52 93.65 12. Maharashtra 804.3 ( 822.46 13. Tripura 43.2 t 70.77 14. Rajasthan 2.28 17.73 15. Assam l8.03 35.72 ------T()tal : 4.1 24•30 5"817.85

Woollen Blankets May COlrt More Owing (c) whether jIlore fals will be import­ to ltlse tn Prices of Raw Matt!rials ed to Hte~ 1UpJ)1y 'bf1t6el for tbe "bOrer coDstfMerfl ? 4826 SHR~MAtt KISHbiu SINHA: wttt th~ 'Mini'(~r of ~tipPL y 'ANO 4 I ~ 1'1 i\ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF7HE TEXTILBS be pleased to state : .. M~fS.TRY OF r~'80PPLY ItNfi) TBK­ . (a) whether woollen blankets will COSt TJI.. ES (SHRl CHANDRA "5H£KH-£R more owing to aha";' rl!le In .prtt~ liAr SINGH): (8) The CO)t of some inlftltl raw materIals *as iel'Ott(!d in the ·lrtdi8h lueh at raal for tho Imalluf~ture ~of E)tpreut of August, t 985; bklnkets is reported 10 have ",ooe UPt which affect pricea .to some OX~Jlt. (b) it so, wh~ther any steps are pro­ posed to be t~en to ODIPI"C lhat b18qkets (b) Blankets made from 8~oddy aad arc made avilablc at cheaper ratci at least Indian woof are usually bouaht by tho to tbe poorer sectionJ; and poorer sec'ions of tbe society_With a 13. 7 . Written J4nsW8rs BHADRA I, 1~D7 (5.41(.4) wrU/~n A~~r8 1 J8 view to reduoiol tbctir price tho blankets· and Articles or Association of the Com­ maute from shoddy aacl Indian woW. l)ave pany. Besides the bead office at Lucknow, already been oxeJllPted from excise duty. the NHDC has also opened 3 regional offiees and a few yarn depots in the cOlintry for carrying out its business. A (c) Import of woollen rags as wen as statement reaardio, the main (unctions wool i. already under OpeD G_oeral of. tho NHDC;I attaebed. Licence for actual Users. Statemeat Corporation for Development or HandJoom ~dustry The maio objects to be pureuod by tbe Comp,oy (N HOC) are as uador :- 4827. SHRI SUBHASH 'YADAV Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND 1 To carry on in"lndia Qr elscwhc;re, TBXTILES be pleased to state; : the business oC buying, stocking, marketing Or otberwise controllIng (a) whether Government have under the distribution of an types of consid~ration a proposals to set up a yarn, for the benefit of handloom separate corporation for the development sector. of handtoom industry; 1'0 procure, Stock. distribute, sell (b) whether the Planning Commission all types of raw materials, dyes has already accorded approval to this . and chemicals needed by the proposal; bandloom sector. 3. To manufacture, purchase, stock, (C) if tbe 1inswer to part (2) and (b) sell, export of otherwlso support above be in affirmative the leaSOn! for and promote the marketing of delay in settmg up of this Corporation; handloom fabrics directly or and thrQIJ&h other agencies.

(d) the jurisdiction of this Corpora­ 4. To undertake the establishment tion and the terms and conditions for of spinning mills/iilk reeling units letting up of it and the adnunistratlvo op its own and to render financial structure therof ? and other assiHance to the State Corporations and such other THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB agencies for the setting up of MINISTRY OP SUPPLY AND TEX. such spinning mills/silk reeling TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR units for supplying yarn to hand­ S1NOfl): ta) and (b). OovemmeIJt of loom weavets. ladia. have al~ady set up the National To aid, assist, finance or imple­ liandloom .Development CorpGrat1eft 5. meDt an), project .undertaking or (MHDC) for tbe 'Cle\clopmenf of !land. 10 terprilC , whether on its own loom industry in the country. ~ 4r in o<:oUabor.tioo with aJI iotor­ aational organisation. a statutory (c) Does D9t arise. body, company,. cooperati.v,o so­ .cicty, Arm or individuals with. (d) Judidjclion of the NRDC extends capital credit, means or roaoq~ to tbe wbo~ iOf ~'ll~ia" :r~ NtlQC ..... for the prosecution of its work public UmUcd 'CP~QY (q.,,-.d WlW aU busio_ COJ1nected with ate tQe eo.,PI'oO)"s I\ct of 1,.56. Its Jtoar.d p~uaiQQ pf 1).~loom fabri~t Qfl Dj.rOf;JOQ wJl~ ~ '2 Icnt)Jll~ .aar~Q.ts or made .. ups and fot ipclud. 'lile ~~le lillie M111\IIiM ~ ,bout .lfW.ter modern.­ Djrector, is responsible fqr .lballMioatiP ••ioQ &Ad p'ooI\Ol qf ~nicaJ business~ subject to tbe provisions of the resources for achievio. higher Company', Act aad tho ~emoraaduQl atandards Or productioD. 139 Written A"swtr, AYGUST 2~. 1985 WrItten AlflWl'rs 140

(;. To undertake formulation, oraani .. Out of these J07 .()ffieors," 70 OtBcen have already been relieved (or reporting aation 'and f control of multi-state haodloom produttlon and process- back to Delbi, The Bank bas reported .' _,. Ina pro,lCcls. that it tltas made arrangements fnr the early relicf of the fem"iDmg 3 7 om. cers alsO, 7. I To act as channel for toutina Central Government funds, Joans and grants t. State Handloom Opening of Bank Accounts hi Jndla Corporations. Cooperative So- by Indian Nationals AlJroad t cieties and other bodies or per­ sons engaged in the promotion 4829, SHRI AMAR ROY PRA­ •.aac:1 deve10pment of handJooJ;l1 DHAN: Will the Minister of fINANCB .iilcblry. be pleased to statt :

Transfer of J. M. G . Scale-I Officers (a) I whether some Ind;an nationals ...... to Delbl have opened the b~nk accounts in Switzer .. land; and 4S2B," .., GANGA. RAM: "SRttT'~ESHAORAO PARDH): (b) if so, the details of the Indians who have opened their bank accounts in Will the MiaUter of FINANfE b~ Switzerland and other countries and the pJeased to state : steps Government propo~e to take to ask the Indian nationals to OPeD their bank (a) whether' all the J,M,G, Scale.' accounlS in Ind,a instead of abroad? officers of 1982. batch, who were trans· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE felTed out of Delh I, have since been MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ transferred back to Delhi ; NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Re­ serve Bank of India have not granted (b) jf.o, whether those J,M.O, sny permIssion to Indian nationals to Scale-I officers transferred to,. Rajasthan open bank accoun ts in SWitzerland, region have not been relieved of thelc charge in their respective places .of duty (b) Does not arise, includlDg those posted in Shri - Ganga­ nagar District/Hanuman Garh; and CoJledion of Funds by Chit FUl1d

(c) If so, the reasons, for not relieving 4830. DR. SUDHIR ROY: WIll them to join duty in Delhi and when they the MiDister ot FINANCE be pleased to will be relieved of their cbarge to Rajas­ state : than Region to report for duty in Delhi '1 (a) whether it is a fact tbat COUDtleSS chit fund organililations are still collecting THB MINISTER OF STA'tE IN THE huge sl;!m from the public and and dupJDS MINISTR Y OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ them; and (b) i( so, The measure contem NARDHANA POOJARYJ: (a) State plated to be taken against them? Bank of India has reported that transfer orders transferring them back to Delhi THE ~INISTER OF STATE IN THB have been ISUled to aU the JMO Scple-I MINISTRY ..OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ Officers ot ' I 982 batch' who had been NARDHANA POOJA~Y) \ (a) and transferred out of Delhi. (b). The Reserve Banle of India (RBI) have been receiving complaints against (b) and (c) Tbe Ban~ bas stated the activities of some chit fund companies. tbat 107 employees from Delhi were However, tbe directions issued by tbe placed at the disposal of JaJpur Nodule R.BI to Miscellaneous Non.BaDkin. Com­ in 1982 consequent upon tbeir promotion panies are not applicable to the' Chit for deploym~nt in Rajasthan Branebes. Pund Oompanics. 141 Wriltl!n AlISWflfS SHADR~ 1, 1?D7 (SAKA.) Written Answers 142

With a viow to reaulatlna the activ;f.~ies fe.SOnS for variation ia actuals durio. tbe of the cKlit fund companies \'Md mitten ... aid period; and Connected therowidJ, the Chit l:!Jnds A.ct, 1982 (Contta1 Act 40 of t~\82) ~s (d) the ~ amount of arrears ~uring the boen enacted. The State Governments said period from those wjth tho taxable are required to frame tules to Itvi effect lin'lit of above Rs. SO JOOO and from to the provisions of this Act. S" far, Hindl\;undivided families firms, coma'anies State Governlpents or Himachal Pradesh, and others ? •

Karnutakat Sikkim. Tamilnadu and West Bengal and the Union Terrttories pC MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINI­ Andamao and Nicobar I8lands~ Chandi­ STRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR. garh, Dadra & N~gar Haveli and Laksha- ,. DHANA POOJARY): (a) The requisite deep haw (tamed rules to give effect information IS given in statcments-l to the provisions of the Act in their below. respee'lve States/Union Territories. The matter is bemg pursued by RBI with (b) Normally thero arc no aTtears OUl« State41!Union Territories. It is agamst pending assessments as demand. expecle'd that the Act when' enforced ill are raised only on completion of assess­ all the States, would be conducive to the ments. The question of furnishmg the conduct of conventional chit funds on figure of arrears of Income tax against sound Jines and minimise malpractices peoding assessments, therefore, would not by organisers. arUe.

Break up income tax deducted at source, By "Frel>h' assessments" the Hon'ble Advance Tax, Self a",.,essment and Member presumably mean eurrent assess­ reg 1dar aSCJessm 'nt ments. Tho total number of current assessments completed during 1983·84 4831. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: was ~3.47,OOO. For the year 1984-85 Will the Mmister of FINANCE be pleased the figures of current assessments comp­ to state: leted is not available. However. the total • Dumber of assessments completed during 1984-85 was 53.70 Jakhs. (a) Jhe break-up of income tax deduct­ ed at source advance tax, self-assessment and regular assessment during 1983 .. 84 (c) The requisite information is given and 1984 85; in statement-II attached below. (d) The information relating to amount (b 1 tfie total amount of income tax of arrears. outstandioi from those with arrears against pending assessments coHec. the taxable limit of a&ove Rs~ 50.000 is ted during· the year and the number of Dot available. Howc.ver, iDformatioo fresh assessments completed during the relating to the deman4 outstandmg in sUld YClrs; cases where tbe amount of arrears ex­ ceeded Rs. 10 lakhs IS avaUable and' the (c) the estimates of reven~e from in­ same is given in statcQlO1ll-IU attached come lax during these... years. and tbe below. S*-Iemeot-I (In Croros of Rupees)

J 983-84 1984-85

1. T'" Dodu"}ed at source 1053,70 1100.26 2. AdvaDco·tax 2861.29, 2607.81 3. Self asseSSn1ellt 27'.77 270.10 4. Regular asse.~nt 289.Mi 302.84 144 143 Wrlttfll ~1UW"'. AUGUST 23, 19.8,5 Written An.nvera

Statement .. u

(Id crores of ru&Jees) , .. FibanciaI Budget Revited Actuals Increase! Inctellse Year • Estimates E.timates . Dec:erasc Decrease • of Actuals of Actuals over the over the Budget Revised Estimates Estimales

1 2 3 4 " . S 6 ':.

~ 1983-84. 4031.60 4235.00 419J.86 (+) 160.26 (-J 43.14

~84-8S 4314.00 4634.00 4497.64 (+> 183.64 (-) 1'3'.36 (Provisional)

It can be seen from the statement that Iy to the introduction of Compulsory the actual collections have ~xceeded the Deposit(Surcharge on Income-tax) Scheme Budget Eati...- while there is a slight starting from the financiaJ year 1983.84 .hort faU II compared to the Revised under which Company can make a cfepo­ Estimates. The short raIl as compared to site in the Industrial DeveloPfnent Bank the Revised Estimates is attributable large .. of India in lieu of payment of 8urch&rlc.

StatemtDt .. HI . . (Figures Provisional)

(In crores of Rs.)

Status Amount of arrears in which demand exceeds Rs. 10 lakh were ontstandlog.

--1983:84 _->- 1984-8S

Hindu Undivided Family. 14.28 16.01

Firms (Ul1nlgfstered firm and 39.25 54.S8 registered firm.)

Compaqies. 723.S3

Others (includins Association .123.23 312.56 • of persons .D~ Indivi. duals et~...... ,..._---- Total 697.36 1106.68 145 Writte" Answers BHADRA I. 1907 (SAKA.) Written Answers 146 . SlDuallDI of Gold From HaUl Gold there is hardly any chance of smuggling Mines .. gold (rom this particularly vulnerable Section_ 4832. SHRt V.S. KRISHNA lYBR : Will the Minister of STEEL. MINES India Failed to (jet Overseas CODstuCtiOD AND COAL be pl.sed to state: Projects in Middle East; Gulf Countries (a) the output of laId in Hatti Gold . Mines during 1984-8S; 4833. SHRl YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) whether go1d is being illegally smuglcd from lhe mines; , a) whether it is a fact tbat India has failed to get major new overseas (c) if so, the number of cases detec­ construction projects in the middJe Eastl ted so far; and GuJf countries; and

(d) whether Government propose to (b) if so, the reasons thereof? tighten the security at the Hatti Gold Mines? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH8 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI THE MINIc)TER OF STEEL, MINES P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). No, AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE): Sir. Indian companies have been secur­ (a) The output of goJd in Hutti Gold ing overseas construction projects in the MlDes during 1984-85 is H,S9,709 Middle East/Gulf countries but this has been a decline in orders for such con­ tracts iA the recent past. The major (b) -Gold smuggling and thefts take reasons for tbe decl ine are : place to some extent in every gold min. ing ventur~ 'all over the world. The same is the case in Huttj Gold Mines (i) Long drawn.out Iran-Iraq Wllr also. However, it is not on a large resulting m reduction of contracts scale and that such smuggling takes in Iraq which oas been our major place when rich ore is struck. Market. . (ii) Fall in oil revenues leading to (c) The Dumber of cases detected slowing pown of construction during th~ year 1983.84 and 1984-85 activities in these countries. was 4 I(lnd 6 respectively and suitable action was taken. (iii) Increased competition Jrom capi­ tal surplus countries which are (d) The strengtl1 of the security force offering easy financial terms. which was 107 in the year 1 919 has now been increased to 181, includiDI women Promotion of Textile Industries In searchers. A· ay~tem Qf sendiDI under­ West Bengal 10 Seventh PJan grounds squads iato the mine where rich arears are being worked to check smuI'" 4834. SHRI SATYAOOPAL MISRA;i glina activities have also been started. A Will the Minister Qf SUPPL Y AND .parameter (eneiDa wall of 3 meters height TEXTILES be pJeased to state ~ with batbed wire fenciog on the top for further security b( the mining area hal been put up. BesKtes all these, a ciosed

THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) tbe details of the projects indl· MINISTRY OF' SUPPLY AND TEX­ eating the present finan<:;al 'cost final TILES (SHRI CHAND~ SHEKHAR project cost etc? SINGH): (a) aDd (b). Thl ntlw Textile policy contains 111idelinos which are ex­ THB MINISTER OP STATB iN THE pected to belp the dQvclopment of the MINISTRY OF COMMBRCB (SHRI textile industry all over the countr1 in­ P.A. SANGMA). (a) to (d). STC pro­ cluding West Bengal. posed to take up initially a Pilot' Project to establish the commercial feasibility for Abolition of Minimum Export Price a fuUt1edged operation of Tuna fish ing of Tea' with foreign collaboration. Tho Pilot project has not been pursued. " 483S. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA- YAN SJNHA: Will the Minister of Setting up Coal Supply Project in t:OMMERCB be pleased to state : Gujarat

(a) whether tea planters have de­ 4837. SHRI RANJIT SINGH manded abolition of minimum export G AEKWAD : Will the Minister of price of tea; Sl'EEL, MINES AND COAL be pleased to state: • (b) if so, tbe reaction of Governmrnt (a) whether any progress has been thereto; and made incregard to the setrJng up of coal slurry project in Gujarat; (c) whether tea industry also wants withdrawal of Tea (Marketing) Control (b) whether Government have chalked Oider'1 out any plan for the purpose; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (cl the expenditure so" far incurred on tbe project by the Union Government P.A. SANGMA) (a) and lb) Repre­ as well as by the State Governmenl; sentations were received from the tea and . industry from abolition of mmimum . export price It has since been abolished. (d) the location of the project? (c) There has been such demand from cer tain sections of tbe industry. THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : /J S, T. C. ' s Tuna Fishipg Projects with (a) to, (d), In J 981 the Government Foreign Collaboration of Gujarat made a request to the Plan­ ning Commiliision for taking up a slurry 4836. SHRI DAULATSINHJl transportation project in Oujarat State in JADEJA : wm the Minister of COM­ the Central·Se~tor. The State Govern­ MERCE be pleased to state : ment was informed that action in the matter would be taken after the Working Group appointed by the GQvclnment of (a) the present states of the VariOuS India sUbmitted its final ";port. Arising .. tuna fls1'liD8 Projc.1cts which were to be out of the deliberations of tbe Workins taktn up hy the State Trading Corporn': Group, a Group under the ChairmaoshjfJ tion with foreign colfaboration; of Secretary, Deparu1lfnt of Coal was aonlitituted to advise pn .cbe preparation (b] the initial financial outlay of these of ... F'ea.ibility Report for' establisb,DB a tun.· Sabina project which were annouoced short dJst~nce demonstration pipeline for with Ireat public relation fanfare; coat slurry transportalion in India, con­ Decti"B a coal source to a power plan't. (c) when th_ projocts will be com­ The Group has taken a deCision Jhat the plet~d; and location of this demont1t.atioo pipeline 149 . Written dnswer8 BHADRA 1, 1907 (~"J1U) Written Answers 150

would be from Now Majri Open-cast (d) and (e). Yes, Sir. A subsidy, of mine to Chandrapur tbermal power sta. Re. 2/- per square metre is provided on tion "'or Maharasbtra State Electricity tbe sale of janata cJoth. This rate of Board. The scope for coal slurry trans­ .ubsidy has been gradually increased from portation in the country can be establi­ Rs. 1/- per square metre at the inception shed based on the outcome of the of the scheme in October, 1976 to demoDstration project. Rs. 2J- per square metre with effect from J.lO.84. For this purpose, the States participating in the scheme are allotted (Translation] annual . targets for production and sale Sfiffling or Jant. Dbotls and Sarees of janata cloth and subsidy is allowed to at fltlr prices to poor people the extent of these tarsets. 4838. SHRI VlJOY KUMAR {EnglJsh] YADAV: Will tbe Minister oC SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to state: 'Expruas,lon of steel plants In private lector (8) whether it is a fact that a scheme 4839. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : to sell janta dhotis aDd sarees to the Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES poor people in some; States at fair prices AND COAL be pleased to state: i$ being implemenJed ; (a) whether some private sector steel (b) if so, the names of those States ; plants hl\ve sought' the permission of (c) the reasons why certain States are Government to expand their capacities; not implementing this scheme; and (d) whether it is also a fact that Cent­ (b) 'if so, the names of such private ral Government provide financial assistance ~ctor steel plants ? to the Stare Government for the Imple­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mentation of this scheme ; and DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. NA-TWAR SINGH) : (al Yes, Sir. \e) if so, the details thereof 1 I • (b) Following units (Mmi• Steel THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Plants) have apphed for snb~tantial ex­ MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ pansion during 1985 till date :- TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, ~ir. SI. . Name of the Unit No. (b) Only 14 St~tes and one, Union Mis. Territory are participating in the pro­ 1. Aodhra Steel Corporation, Bangalore. duction of janeta cloth. These are Andhra Pradesh, Assam. Bih'ar, Gujarat 2. Mis. Punjab Iron & Steel Co, (P) Kamataka, Kerata, Madhya Pradesb, Ltd. Julalldhar. . Maharashtra, Orissa, Pondichery. Rajas .. 3. MIs. Western MinisteeI Limited, than, Tamil Nadu, Tripura, Uttar Pradesh Bombay. , & West Bengal. 4. MIs, KaJ]oria Steel (Prop, Aditya (c) All ltates are eligible to partici­ Mills Ltd., Bombay). pate in the scheme. However, since 1981 S. MJs. Pr atap Steel Rolling Mills _pnly dhotis and. sarees were being allowed (Amritsar) Limited, Amritsar. to be produ~d under the jan._ta cloth 6. Mis. Nava Karnataka Steels Limited, scbeme, The States not producina these Bel1ary. items were. therefore, not interested in 7. Mis, Vikram Steel Private LIMited imt)JemeDted tbe scheme. Wjth 'he Rajkot. introduction of 8hirtil~1 and 1001 cloth with effect from 26. S • 1 984 it 'i expected 8. MIS. Kumar Steel & General MHJs. that some more States may join the Bombay. scheme. 9. MIs Kalyani Stel:Js Limited, PuDI. 1 S 1 Written Answer.s AUGUST 23, 1985

Produ:tloD of Jute In West ·Bengal THE MINISTER Of'STATE OF Tl{B MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ 4840. DR. GOLAM YAZDANI TJLES (SHRI CHANDRA SijEKHAR WiiI the Minister of SUPPLY AND SINGH) : (a) The estimated total pro­ duction of jute and meata in West Bengal TExtILES be pleased to state ~ during 1983-84 seasons was 41,.11 lakh bales. Prices paid by Jute Corporation of (a) ttae total production of jute in India were as be!ow :- West Bengal in 1984 and price per quintal given by Jute Corporation of West Bengal 198~-84 India; . (R.r./qulnta/) (i) North Beoaa) 277 to 284 (b) the exported production of jute White in West Bengal in t 985 and the price (iI) South Bengal 297 to 304 per quintal fi~ed by Jute Corporation of Tossa India thereof; \ b) and (c). A Statement is attached. (c) the price of jute fixed for 1985 (d) The Jute Corporation of India has is less than that of 1984, then reasons been made responsible to undertake pri~ therefor; and ~upport OperatIon to the extent nece­ ssary. The Corporation has geared itself (d) the arrangement made by J. C.I. with me, ma(.binelY and money m all this year for purchase of jute from jute of its purchase centres to start procure­ growers in West Bengal ? Dlent operation as soon as it is necessary.

Statement

The oroduction of jute and mesta in West Benlal during the current jute season 1985-86 is ~stimated at 4S lakh bales. The minimum statutory prices fixed by the Govt. for J 984-85 and J 985-86 season for various places in West Benga) are as under !-

Place Variety 1984-85 ) 985-86

(i) Coochbehar, JaJpaiguri and White (W-S) 2Q2.S0 223.CO Darjeelin.8 Dhtts. Tossa (TD-S) 21 S.OO 235.50 • (ii) W~st Dinajpur and White (W.S) 207.50 228.50 MaIda Tossa (TO-S) 220.00 245.00

(iii) Munhidabad Oankura aod \Vhitc (W.) 210.50 2~ 1.50 Birbhum Tossa (TO.S) 223.00 244.00

(iv) Nadia, Midnapur Burdwan White (~-S) 2J 3.50 235.,0 24-Parganas Hooghly and Howarah Tossa (TO.') 226.()O 248.00

Prices ihed for 1985.86 season are more tb:o the prices filed for 1984 .. 8S Hasons. 153 Written Answers BHADRA 1,"1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

Grant In aid aad devolution of Union Governm~nt in 1981-82, 1982 .. 83, funds to Karns taka 1983 .. 84, 1984.. 85 and the current year? 4841. SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJE­ SHWARI : WJIl the MiJfster of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FINANCE be pleased to state ; the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI amount ,,( grant-in .. aid and devolution of JANARDHANA POOJARY) : A stat~­ funds made over to the Karnatllka by tbo ment is given below : ~

Statement

(Rs. in lakhs)

------~------Plan Non-Plan {I" Year Loan Grant Total Loan Grant Total

1981 82 8457 ~603 11060 1190 735 1925

1982-83 8125 9S~6 17681 1448 532 1980 1983 .. 84 (RE) 9551 J3075 22626· J484 136 2220

1984-85 (BF) 10564 17853 28417 1434 696 2130

1 9 8 5 -8 6 (9 P) 14806 20850 35656 1450 1263 2713

Shapes of Foreign Companies shot-up domestic compames, coverlDg 'II types of in the Market industries,

4842, SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: (b) The Prices of listed shares are Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased determined by vanOus factors like expect­ to state: ed profitability of the cosnpcmy. dlVldend policy of the company" 'proposals relatmg (a) whether Government are aware of to expansion and dlversdicatlOn of the the fact that value of shares In the market company, demand for shares as compared of foreign companies have shot up; to the '8vailabihty 10 the market etc. Therefore, tho increasc In the pnces of (b) what docs that indicate on profit ... shares is not always an indication of the able of the companies; and profttabihty, of tbe compaDles. (c) how does Government justify its (c) The question is not clear. recent action in light of the above ?

THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE Claeck o,er IIJepl Property Deals MINISTR Y OF FINANCE (SHRI JA NARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Presuma .. 4843. SHRI BANWARJ LAL PURO. bly t the term 'foreign campaDles'refers to HIT: Will the Minister of FINANCB contpanies covered under Foreign E,,­ be~ to state: change Re8ulation Act, 1973. In the recent past, there has been a considerable whether one of the major reasons inc"'e jn tbe prices of shares which ire ot ,eIleratina b1ack money in the country listed OD Stock Exchanges, of companies is property -deals acc~rclina to Raja Cbal­ covered under FBRA. 1 9 73 at well as liab Committee report; lSS Written Answer' AUGUST 23. 1985 Writt.n Answers 156

(b) if &d, whether Government have At present, there is DO officers beloDsing any control to check these illegal property to SC/ST categoty working in any of draJs; aDd • ' the foreign branches of Punjab National Bank. (c) if not, the steps Government pro. pose to contemplate in tbis regard to sei~ (c) ana (d). Punjab National Bank black money ? has reported that it hed received a representation from the M4nagement THE MINISTER~ OF STATE IN THE trainees who had joined the bank in MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA. November 1978 requesting that they NARDHANA POOJARY): (a), (b) 8t should be given annual increments by (c). The National Institute of Public reckoning the period from the date of Finance & Policy in I ts Report on II As .. their appointments as triinees. The bank peets of Black Economy in India" have has not agreed to this as In Its vIew, identified real estate" transactions as one of this would Dot be in accordanre with the sectors generatmg black money. the Rqulations. Some of the offic6l's A~quisitJOn of propert ies under Chapter have fiJed a special Jedve petition before XXA of the Income .. tax Act, ] 961 is one the Supreme Court and the matter is of the measures of control exercl4;jed by Sub-Judice. the Government to check invesmeot of btack money in property deals. Non.Resident I nd lans Investment in Indian Companies Reservation of p()sts for Scheduled Castes/~ Tribes Officers • 4845. SHRI ANADJ CHARAN 10 Fore. Brallches of 8a oks DAS: Will lhe MlDister of FINANCE be pleased to stale: 4844. SHRf NANDLAL CHOt1- DHARY Will the Mmhter of (a) whether the non.resident IndIans FINANCE be oleased to state: are showing Immense mlerests and sought shares of old, new and 'leg induslfles and (a) wbether Punjab Natjonal Bank on new capllal I~SueS even at higher rates; gives 1 S per cent posts to SC/ST officers while makmg foreign posllngs ; (b) if so, the details alongwith the amount If any, receIved under the (b) the number of SC/~T officers IDvestment scheme and the actJop workmg in fOfCijO branches of Punjab proposed to be taken in this regard ; National B !nk their percentage to total t (c) in vIew of interests. whether employees In foreign branches ; Government propose to launch major public sector compahies with the parti­ Cc) whether .punjab National Bank cipatIon of Government, private and has r!ceived representation against treating noo-resident Indlaos and set up mdu8tnes MT Batch J 978 as at the time trainees In backward States to accelerate of PCR: and industrial growth; and

(d) what measures Government have (d) if so, tbe details thereof and if taken to remove the -anomaly in its not, tbe Jeasons as to why the companies implementation '1 should Dot be deprived of the non­ resident Indiana investment unless they launch projects ID other backward areas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tban whero they are operati~g at MINIS1 R Y OF FINANCE (SHRI sft"esent ? JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b). Accordio8 to existing instructions on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the subject, DO reservation exists for MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI SC/ST offtcen in the matter of t rao.fen JANARDHANA POOJAR Y) ; (8) or p08til188 includins pOItiDIt abroad. There is 1000 rosponlO from non-tesidcnt 157 Written Answers BHADRA .., 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 S 8

Indian. for inv~8tmentjiD India. However, (b) if so, tbe details tl¥reof; and Government are not aware of any' doisre, OIS the part of the noo­ \e) the guidelines, if any, formulated resident Indians to buy share or com­ to encoutaae setting up of such industries panjts at relatively higher rate!l. in Falla ElilPort Processing Zone ?

(b) ,\:he position for the perictd since THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4\prit, 1982, relating to investment mado MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHR[ by non.residents or Indian nationality! . P.A. SANGMA) : (a) to (c). The oflgin as well as ovorseas corporate Falta Export ProceSSing Zooe is a multi­ bodies owned at least to the extent of pr{)duet Zone. All types of industries 60% by them. for which data is avaiJable can be considered with p~eference to with the Reserve Bank" of India, is as such iodustries as would involve substan­ follows: tial volume of exports, new technologies and aUcast tho minImum prescribed value addition. Amount (R~ in crores)

(i) Direct Investment Letters of lntent/LIcences Issued for (as on 30.6.1985) 31S.96 Exp~rt of Groundnut and Casbewaut

(ii) Portfolio Investment 4&47. SHRJ C ~AMBU: Will the Actual purchases Miolster of COMMERCE be pleased to of shares/deb- state : entures through Stock Exchanges (a) the export feasibility of ground­ (as on J 1.3.1985) 46 87 nut and chewnut crops produced In the country to other foreign countries; (iii ) Bank Deposits Outststanding Ba- (b) the numbpr of Jetters of intent lances (as on or licences issued if any, for exporting 31.5.1985) 3968.64 groundout and cashewnut during 1984-85 and in the first six months from January (c) and (d). At pres'!nt Government t 985 to date; and do not have any specific proposal" to launch major public sector companies (c) the details thereof? with the participation of the private I sector and non-restdent Indians. THB MINISTER OF STATB IN THE However, the present Industrial Licensiol. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Policy is fully" equipped to encourage P.A. SANGMA): (a) Reasonable pros­ NR.I investment i D priority ind~trie$ pects exist for export of Cashew Kernels and in projects .set- up in backward and H~S Oroundnuts. areas. (b) and (C). Export of Cashew kernels Guidance fo", SettIng up Industries In. .is allowed freely. Export of HPS ground­ FJllta Export Processing Zofte nuts i. canalised through Nation~l Agri­ cultural Cooperative Marketing Federation 4846. PROP. 8lMAL KAN.T( (NAPBD) within a ceihng of 1,10.000 J,JHOSH: Wlll the Minister of COM­ tonnes. Within the overall canalisation MERCE b: ,pleased to state : policy, private parties are also allowed to export HPS ground nuts as associates of

issued 1·8 authorisation letters for ship­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB ment of HPS~ groundnuts. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRt P.A. SANGMA): (a) to (.c). The tea industry is itself one of the most'labour M_!s. John Wyeth and Brothers intensive industries and the cost of creatio& e~f'loyment is low as compared 4848. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: to other 8&ro-basecr- industries. foreign Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleas.. exchange earned from the tea.. industry ed to state: is 'used for the benefit of the count., i.e. for effecting essential imports. The (a) whethet MIs. John Wyeth and Finance Act 8 S includes further to en-

Brothers of companies were asked by f courage plough back of profit for further Government to wind up; development of lhe tea industry.

(b) whether these companies instead Decline ia Export of Engineering Goods of winding up were allowed to dilule their equity; and 48.50 .• SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGAR­ WAL: Will the Minister of COMMERCE (e) if so, the reasons for the same? be pleased to state :

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the engineering goods ex­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI port showed a declining trend in the past JANARDHANA .POOJARY): (a) to three years ; (c,. The company was ear liar di reeted by the R~ ;Bank of Indil to wind (b) the details of export ror each of up its alf4;'''',.in India, as it was not these thrte )ears as against the tar­ engaged either in manufacturing or trad­ gets; and ing activities.. 00 a representation made by the company, it ha~ b~en decided to (c) the steps proposed for promotion allow the company to .. carry out its acti­ of engineering goods export and wl'elher vities in the country with 40% non­ any target ha~ been fixed for Seventh resid~nt equity. This is as per the Five Year Pian? provisions of FERA, 1973 and guidelines . under S. 29 ibid. This dilution or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE foreilo hotding has since been given effect . MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI to by the Company. P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). No, Sir. Export (f Engineer ing goods dudng Auxiliary Industries Around Tea Iadustry the last three years a ~ against the tar gets to Provide Emplo)meDt bas been as follows :

4849. SHRI PIYUS TJRAKY: Will tire Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (Rs. in crores) to state: Year Target Exports·- (a) whether there i~ any proposal 1982-83 1400 1250 to explore the setting up of auxiliary 1983-84 1450 170 . industries out of the foreign exchanlc J carned by tea industry to create Dew 1·984·85 1500 1300 __...._ avenues of employment for the surplus labour force in and around tea industriea: • Filure. are provisional.

(b) if so, what kind or industries, (c), The Government bave taken a Government -consider suitabte for series of measures for boosting tbe export gcneratiag more employ.menl; aDd . of engineering loods. Thesc, Inter. alia, include continustion and atrcoltbeniDI (c) if not, the reasons thereof? of the International Price Reilbbenement 161 Wrltt~n A.n.rwtl'$ BHADRA 1, 1901 (SA~) Written ;4nswers 162

Schemel' libralisatio~ of imports for ex­ plicat.io~s, release of subsidies, etc, are port production. grpatet ateess on mar. belDg done by the State agencies; keting and warehousing and I ines of cre­ dits to some countries. (c) whetller it is aJso a fact that in Karnata~a, the Chief Minister issued A target of Ra. 4,SSO crores has been directives to the officials not to participate fixed for 1989 .. 90 for the export of enai­ in tho "Loan Melas" ; and nee ring goods (d) whether Union Government pro­ Bank Note Paper pose to reconsider their st~nd aod accom­ modate the view point of the State 485 l. SHRI RAMBSHWAR NEE­ G"ovFrnments ? KHRA : win thQ Mmister of FIN'ANCE be pleased to state = THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ (a) tbe cost of per 1IlCtric ton of NARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (d). bank note paper imported from abroad The information is being collected and includlOg foreign charses ; and will be laid on· the Table of the House to the C"xtent possi ble. (t,) the cost for each metric ton of bank pate paper manufactured indi­ Export and Import of Rice genou51y ? 4853. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Mrnisler of COMMERCE be MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA .. pleased to state : NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) For 1985-86 Government have contracted to (a) the qoaotity of basmati rice ex­ purchase 5,500 metrIC tons of bank note ported during the last three ye~u8, year­ paper @ £ 4,650 per metric t008 F.O.B. . wise indica ling the rate at which It was which at the current exchange rate of exported: £6.186S=- Rs. 10t'/... , js equivalent to Rs. 75,164 per M.T. (b) whether it is a fact tbat due to the export of basmati flce, ItS prrce an (b) The present cost per metric tOn of the country has gone as high as Rs. bank note papet manUfactured indlge­ 1 4-1 S per kilograms ; Ilously is Rs. 67,245. (c) whether it is also a fact that there Involvement of State Gover.meats fa is shortage of rice in the country and to Credit Camps OrgaD1s.~ by Flaance meet the .demand tbe race IS beJn& 1m. Ministry ported;

4852. SHRI S.M. BRATTAM : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (d) if so, the 4daotlty or rice imported to state: during the last three years; year-wise thereof and how it is being distri­ buted ; and .. (a) wJtetber ~b;ef Minis"s of Andhra Pradesh ~Dd Karnataka complained that the Sta.le GoverQments are not being io­ (e) Government's policy in regard to volved in the credit camps (Loan Melas). import and export of rice (or the year organised by the Union Finance 1985-861' Minisrry; THE MINISTBR OF STATE tN THB (h) )Vbetber it is;a ract that ... ideDfi .. MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SaRI flcation of beneficiaries, proceama ef.- P.A. SANGMA) : Ca> .Export of basmati 16"3 Written An8Wers AUGUST 23, 1985 Wrltt~n Answers 164 rice during the last three years, in terms Food Corporation or India on tb~ basis of quantity and value, were as follows :- ·of foreigD excbange released by tho Government in its favour. 'Year Quantity Value Export of Flsb and Fish Products 1982-83 (P) 1,78,078 MT Ra.l05.22 crote8. 4854. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL 1983.84 (P) 1,41,664 MT RS,96,12 SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA crores Will tbe Minister of COMMERCE be 1984-85 (P) 4,41,785 MT RI.163.03 pte lsed to state : crores- (a) the name of big companies which (P) Provisional. are engaged in deep-sea fishing ; (Source: Processed Foods Export Pro­ motion Council). (b) the total quantity of fish and fish (b) There has been SOme increase in products exported during the last three the domestic price of basmati ·rice. There years by these companies. year-wise and is, however, no Governmental control In company-wise and the value thereof; the distribution of basmati rice. (c) the names of the couDtrje~ which (c) No, Sir. are importing fish and fish products from (d) During the last three years the thC$e cDmpanies; .. quantity of rice contracted for Import was as under :- (d) wbether there is a . decline in this trade; if so the detaIls thereof; 1982 .. 83 Nil 1983.84 7.20 )akh lonnes (e) whether any study h,IS been made to know the causes for the decline ; and 1984-85 Nil Imported rice on reaching India forms (f> if so, the findings the) eor and the part of the Central Pool and thu., issued steps being taken to boost thiS Industry? for public distribution. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (e) Export policy for 1985.86 pro­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHIH vides for export of basmati rice ander P.A. SANGMA): (a) to (C). As per tbe Open General Licence. Export of non­ available information. the names of basmati rice is not permitted in the cur.. big companies which are engaged in rent policy. The current import policy deep-sea fishing and their export of fish provides for import of Cereals b) the: and fish products are: • (Value in Rs. Lakhs) S. No. Name of Compan)' Exports of fish and fish products -1982-83 1983·84 1984 .. 8S (Provisional)

1. MIs. Britannia Frozen 679.S9 826.23 528.40 Foodi. 2. Mis. Chowghule and Co. \P) Ltd. 184.62 17.53 81 95 3. M/.: l.T.C. Ltd 49.45 146.39 110.72 4. Mis. Konkan Fisheries 60.17 J 56.21 314.22 (P) Ltd., Visakhapatoam. S. MIs. Onion Caribde 491.8S ~O2.46 S6.85 India Ltd. 165 Wrltl«n A.nawers BHADRA 1. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

In addition to these tirm8. the following SbortqeofCoins firms are al90 engaged in deep.sea ftshinl :- 4855 ••HRI AMARSINH RATHA .. WA : Will tbe Minister of FINANCE be - MISe Tata Oils Mills Ltd•• pJeased to state :

- Mfs. Chowgulo Steamship (,,) the amount of the smaJJ coins Ltd., Bombay released per day by State Bank of India: and - M Is. E.I.D. Parry (India) Ltd., Madras (b) what steps are being taken to - MIs. Phoneix India Marine distribute small coins through nationalised (P) Ltd. Visakhapatnam. banks also where State Bank of India has DO branch for the benefit of the The important countries which are common man? importing fish and fish products from these Companies arc Japan, U.S A., THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE U.K., France, Netherlands, Belgium MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI etc. JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) the information rega, ding coins released (Apparently, under part (b) of this exclusively through State Bank of India Question, the Hon'ble Members have branches is not avaiJable. However, desired information on the "Quantity of the R.B.I. have reported that the net fish and fish products exported during quantity of small coins released for the last three year" and not' uQuaJity circulation through their Issue Offices of fish and fish products exported dUring and agency (i.e. State Bank of India, the last three years", as has been shown subsidial ies of State Bank of India and in the list). Nationalised Banks) during the last three financial years IS as under :- (d) to (f). There is no decline in the overall export trade of fish and fish products from India. which stood at Financial (In lakh pieces, Rs. 384 29 crores during 1984· 85 as Year compared to Rs. 373 02 crores in 1983.84. However, quantity .. wise, export 1982-83 8343 during 1984-85 was 86187 tonnes as 1983-84 6844 compared 10 92691 Tonn~ in J 983-84. This rail was mainly due to sharp decline 1984-85 9471 in the charter vessels operations and stagnant marine landings. . (b) Nationalised banks are already involved, alongwith the State Bank of During the period Apr," to June 1985, India and its subsidiaries, in the export of this item was 1869S tonnes process of distribution of smaH coins by valued at Rs.85.23 crores (as compared to establishing small coin depots Alt their 18354 tonnes valucd at Rs. 81,86 branches. Efforts arc beiDg ~ade to crores during April to June 1984), expand this distribution net-work by sbowinl an increa,ing trend, both in establishing more small coin depots. quantity and valuc. Exported Diamond and Gold Oroaments Steps taken to boost tbis export industry include promotion of Prawl'l 48.56, SHRI AMARSINH aAT.. farming, joint ventures aDd other Scbemes HAWA: WilJ the Minister of COM .. for developmeDJ of deep.. sea fishing, MERCE be pJeased to state : diversified fisheries, improvement in tiabina lear aDd crafts, modemj~tioD of (8) the value of diamond and gold prDCeniDI plants and eooouraaement ornaments exported during tbe last three for value added items. yearl, year.. wise; 167 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 1!~8'~ Written A"lWBrJ' t68

(b) whetlu)r these are .,ported direct (a) whether. i, it • fact tbat tbe Bank by the dealers or through some Govern­ of ~i\baras~tra ba$ DO zonal regional ment agency; branch Offices in 'some of tbe States;

(c) whether it is a fact that in this (b) if aOf the name of such States trade Indias losing a large quantity of where tbe bank O( Maharashtra bas no gold every year; zonal/resi()1'&al branch and the reasons therefor; (d) if so, the quantity of gold Orna­ (c) whether it is It fact that Orissa ments exported during the last three State has no zonal or reliona) branch years; and of this bank; (e) the steps being taken to preserve the stock of lold in the country ? (d) if so, tho steps being taken by Government to have the branches of thiS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nationalised bank in e~ch and every Slate MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI and particularly in Orissa; P.A. SANQMA) : (a) (e) whether it is also a fact tbat (Value Rs. Crores) Government of Orissa and the Members of Parliament from Orissa have approa­ Year Diamond Gold ched Government in this respect; and Jewellery (f) if so the action taken and by when 1982-83 912.83 57.69 the branches of the said bank will be opened in the State ? 1983.84 1188.89 ~3.38 1984·85 1172.10 85.75 THE MINISTRY OF STATE IN T~ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) These are exported direct by the JANARDHANA POOJARY: (a) to (d). dealers a, well as by or through Govel n­ A~I p~blic sector banks, including Bank ment agencies. of Maharashtra, decide on the number and location of their zonal/reStona) offices (c) to (e). There is llO outgo of Gold in such a manner as to secure economy from the country by way of ~xporl of consistent with the needs of efficient and Gold jewellery. Gold t:quivalent to the effe~liye .supervision and control of the quantity u~ed In jewellery exported under banking .operations .of their branches. It the HHEC scheme is obtained frofII the is, Itheref()re, not necessary for each bank buyer in advance whereas. g~ld us~d in to have Zonal/ Regional Office in .each manufacture of jewellery exported under State. Bank of M.r~btra bas reported the Gold Jewellery Export Promotion and tha( it has no Zonal/Regional Offices in Replenishment ~dhcme' is replenished by tho,following ,St't~iUnion Territories :- way of purchases from abroad and sold to the exports of jewdlery are effected. So~e As.am~ Bihar, HaryaDa, Himachal marginal quantity' 6r gold oulaO frQm lhe Pradc;sh, Jamq1u , anej Kashmir., KeraJa, couotrY ,woUld be )(b~fre', in the case "Yher~ ManiAur, Megh,alay".... Naga1aQ~, Orissa, lold content in jewell~r'f does Dot, ~xceFd Pun~", Rajas~anJ Sik~im. Tbmilnandu, 10 per cent' of Value or in the case ot U.p., Andaman and Nicobar Islands-. sales of jewellery to foreign tour~s Arunachal Pradesh, Chandiga h, Dadra 1 ~ I " '".. ~ alainst foreign exchanse. & ~arr ,Ha\WIU, (OQa, DaIJ¥ln ,k Diu, Tripur8,. jl Lakth.oop, ., Mi~ram aDd O~niD~ or ~~~I/~I.tOpa,. Bra~. ~ I Poo4ioJaelTY. ' of ~a~ 9t ~.,lJ,.._~a .. Oeoa~~pbj;~l '\iSPfI'.saf'~f "Dks' ;brarl~b 4857. SH~I,.~H.INTi"\MA~~ JE~ : ne\wqr~}~ COD41itioned by' ~vc,.. , factort WiU t~e ~iDi~~~ ,?f FI~mj~ ,pc p~e~~d .u~ H bil~¥=a~,s~o...... S.triDl~ pn.n", to stRte : cia)' strenath. Q~\i'Y'I,Qf ID8.'W•. _4 169 Written Answers BHADRA 1. 1901 (SAKA) Written AnSfttrs J. IV

-efticac), or cdntrol aDd sut)ervision mec­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB hanism etc. It is Dot necessarily desirable MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI that all banks should have branches JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to spread over in all the States. (b). In terms of Section 13( 1) of the Banking Companies (Acquisition and (e) and tf). Government/Reserve Transfer of Undertakin,s) Act, 1970, Bank of India have not received any pro­ information relating to individual con­ posals from Bank of Maharashtra for stituents of tbe public sector banks cao... opening branches in Orissa. The question not be disclosed. of allocating the agreed branch expansion (c) There is no proposal for tbe programme in Orissa among various banks pre~nt under consideration ef tbe can be considered in the light of Branch Government to IOvestigate into the matter Licensing Policy for 1985.90 nOw being for instituting action against tho company finaJised by R.BJ. or any bank. Loan Advanced by Indian 8ank to Establishment of RegIonal Rural Banks M/,. Gourlpore ,Jute Comp.lny Calcutta 4859. SHRI R.M. BHOVE: Will 4858. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Minister of FINANCE be ·pJeased to state: state: (8) the number of regitmal rur~l (a") whether Indian Bank had advanced banks established in 1984, State-wise; and large IOium of money to M Is. Gouriporc Jute Company Limited, Calcuna, in (b) the number of such banks likely recent tIme; • to be established in 1985, State-wise 7 (b) whether the Allahabad Bank had considered these as sick units and had THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE withdrawn their financIal assistances; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Twenty (c) whether Government PfQ~ to three Regional Rural Banks were establis­ investigate the matter aDd institute action hed in 1984. Their State-wise distribution against the error makers ? .. is set out below :

State No. of RRBs established durio8 1984

Bihar 3 Gujarat .t. 4

Haryao~ 1 K.arnataka 4 MadHya Pradesb 3 Mabarashtra :1 Rajasthan 4

Uttar Pradesh ••• I West Benlal ... I

Total ---23 171 Written Answer, AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answer" 172

(b) During 198' 10 f~ ten more luch banks have bocn establishod. The State­ wi. number is IDdicatod below: ~

State No. or Reaional Rural BaDks

Andhra Pradesb 2 Bihar 2 1 Karnataka.., Haryana t Maharashtra Rajasthan ... 1 Uttar Pradesh 1

10

There is a budget provision for Rs. 5 crores in 1985 .. 86 for meeting the requirements of CeDtraA ~¥CUlment component in the share capital of Regional Rural Banks.

Loaas to rarmers for development of siven by each bank duriog tbe same agriculture in Oris.~a period in that State? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 4860.. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHR[ SETHI: Will tho Minister of FINANCE JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) AU be pleased to state, : Commercial, Co-operative and Regional Rural Banks operating in tbe State of (8) the names of the various com­ Orissa grant advances to farmers for agri­ mercial banks and financial institutions cultural activities. which have been directed to provide loans to farmers for the developments of agri­ (b) Loans and advaoces disbursed by culture in Orissa ; and Scheduled Commercial Banks, Regional Rural Banks and Co-operative Banks in (b) the names of different banks the State of Orissa for Agricuiture as per which are provi ding agricultural credit to data available on achievement of targets the farmers in Orissa during the last fixed for agriculture in the Annual Action three years and tbe amount of credit Plans are as under :-

(Rs. ,n lakhs)

Bank Group 1983 1984 ------1 • Scheduled Commercial Banks 4975.98 4639,49 •

2. Regional Rural Banks 2778.19 2529.63

3. Co-operalive Banks 91S.5.64 10498.07

Total 16909.81 17667.19 1 7" Written Answer, BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 74

Assistance pro,lded to proJeets by (b) tbe dividend paid by the Export Export Import aank Import Bank of India to Government since ita inception yoar-wise ? 486 t. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAL .. LICK: Will the Minister of FINANCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIi£ be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Tho (a) tbe details regarding tbe projects details of the projects involving Indian involving Indian exports for which exports for which Export Import Bank Export Imoort Bank of India provIded of India (Exim Bank) provided assistance assistance since its inception in 1982 ; since its inception in 1982, are as and under :-

(Rs. millions)

Year No. of projects Total Facilities sanctioned project ._------value Funded Non-funded

1982 83 8633.5 572.8 1018.8 1983 48 3645.1 . 808.7 753.3 1984 42 1653.0 1278:8 571.6

(b) Dividend paid by Exim Bank to Govt. of India since its inception, year-wlse, is as under :-

------For the year Remitted in Amount (Rs. millions)

1982 1983 10.0 1983 1984 20.0 19.114 to be remitted 30.0 (provisional)

Dlpka OpeD Cast Coal coal per annum by t 988-89 ; and Mine Project (c) the extent to which spending this 4862. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will the much amount on the ptoject is likely to Minister of STEEL. MINES AND COAL yield results , be plc;ased fo Itate : THE MINISTRY OF STEEL, MINES AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (8) whether the UhioD Government , t'

Black money lo,olved In (b) if so, the steps GoverOrllCQt pro. share transaction pose to take to balk c;iQWrl su~)l deals in future which the State Trading Corpora. 4863. SHRI K. PRADHANl: Will tion cat\not fulfil '1 the Minister of FINANCE be ph~ased to stale: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether he is aware that a sife.. P .• A., SA-NOMA.): (al"nd (b). TQ~ State 'Tradmg Corporation of Jndia bad able portion of black ffi()ney IS presently nOI ) entered inte;> an"y contract fOf suppl'y involv~d in unofficial trilnsactions in of dce to the Kuwait Supply Co. ' shar.es; Exploitation of Lower quality coking (b) whether professionals and owners Coal (or Steel Making of some laggard 'Companies do not mist the opportunity of unloadmg these shares 4865. SHRI K. PRADHANl: Will at high ~rices, often buying them again the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND with the prices crash; COAL bo pleased to state:

(c) whether such transactions enable (a) whether the Advis~ry Board On them to hook profits unofficial1y and show Energy has suggested a reversal of the losses .officially in their tax. returns; policy of increasing exploitation of Jower and quality cocking coal containing hi~her ash content for steel making; ( d) if so, the steps proposed to be (b) if so, the consideration which taken by Government not only to mop weighed with the Board for such a policy up all &uch Ill-gotten gams but also to reversal; and discourage and stop ~uch malpractices by stock-brockers and otber unsocial tc) the reacuoll of the steel industry elements? thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES MINISTRV OF FINANCE (SHRI AND COAL (SHRI.VASANT SATHE): JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) '0 (a) to (c) The AdvIsory Board on (d). There is no specific mformatlOn on Energy in their report of May' 1985 tItled this pOInt. All possible measures to 'Towards a Perspective on EnCl(gy Del. check circulation and prevent further mand and Supply in India in 1.00 t 105' proliforation of black money, IDcluding have recommended tor reviewing the admini:iration, legislative and instiLu~ prescnt policy of mining or inferior grade tional are being taken from tjme to of Coking coal, The reco[QIDCudatioDs time. .. of the Advisory Board 08 Bnergy arc under examination in the Department oT STC Failure to Supply Rice to CoaJ~ I(uwalti Supply Co. Sbare of IrOil-Ore Export Target for 1985.86 4864. SHRI K. PRAD.KANI: Will , 1 the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased 4866. SHRI Ie. PRADJiANI· Wm to statt : j tHe Mioitter or COMME~c!! be ·~Jeased

(a) whether the {aUule of the State Tradins_Corporation or Iodi" foJ honour (a) tbe iron-ore ~xport target ~vr its comrni8lJent to ~pply 1h~ , contracted 1985.86; quantities of rice to K..uwaiti Supply Co. (b) the share of Orissa in tbis; and bas .wualy imparted tbe tradin&, fmaP ~, '" , of India in tbe Gulf countries; aDd (C) ~hc S~~PI t,k~Q .~o ~io~. tbj, t BHADllA I, 1907 (IAKA) JJ'rltten AlUWers 178

-ras MINlSTBR t»P $TAtE IN THB have takoo various stops rrnm time to MlNlSTRY OP COM~8B.CS (SHill time aDd the lat., steps taken are : P.A SANQM.A): increase the number of panel. qOllctnftates) for 198'-86 is 2& million from 8 to 10· tonnes. (ii) increase in the rate of remunera­ (b) The sbar.e of Orissa iron-oro in tion, for verification of cases, to the export tarlet will be 1.664 million , the panel IJlembers and to.nes. (iii) transrer of the work of disburse. (c)' Contracts for abe entire quantity ment of ,x-gratia amomus rrom of iron-ore to be exported from Parad.p Bombay to Calcutta . . Port, which is the only outlet ~or export of iron-ore produced (rom Orissa, have already been concluded by MMTC. Other Import of New Items importent steps taken by MMTC are (i) adoption of a hberallsed policy for pro­ 4868. SHRI MA.NOR~NJAN curement of iron ... ore from mine owdors BHAKTA:- Wdl t~ MiDister of COM. (ii) grant of production incentive for MERCE be,pleased to statl:": supply of higher quantities than as sup­ phed by mme owners durlOg the previous (a) whether it is a fact that Govern­ year (iii) offer of discount in sale prices ment are proposing to import in tho to foreign buyers and (iv) diversification recent future many items which were not of export markets. Exports during lhe imported in the past; current financial year are keeping pacc with_. the target. (b) if so, the details of these items; and Settlement of Pending Claims Regarding Enemy Property (c) the total amount involved there­ on ? 4867. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Wil. the MInister of COM. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MERCE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRL P.A. SANGMA): (a) to (c). Govern­ (8) the total'number of c~im tases ment imort items reQultcd in pubhc pending with tbe Cu,todian of Enemy mterest from time to time. These may P,operty/O.S.D. Calcutta/Commecce Include some items whIch were nOl Ministry upto 31st March, 198 '; imported in the past. No details of suet. items are available. (,I» whether Government bav~ taken an, decision to expedite settlement of Effects or Syntbetk fibres Contents ID 5uch claims; and CJotbiag on Homan Skin

(c) if so, the latest auideliDCI in this 4869. PROP. NARAIN CHAND regard? PARASHAR: Will the Minister ot SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be l?'eased to T8B MINISTER OF JfAlE IN T$ state: " MINIStRy OF COMMB(tCE ($,Hal P.A. SANGMA): Ca, 14.752 cbliQ,'l8 (a) wbotbcr Govomll1ent bave uDder. applicrations were pending for settlement ta.ken any .twJy to _&mine the effect or "00 3 J .lid98S. syntboUc tibret contcat oJothina on tho ,I • a human skiQ; (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. 1Q _pedito aettJemen' of peodiDI ~imlt GoveI'DlbeDt (b) if 80. the outoome tMloa!: 1 79 Written Answer", AUGUST 23, 198,. W,IlIten Answers 1 80

\c) if not, whether such a study is THE MINISTER OF' STATE IN THE proposed to be undertaken; and MINISTRY Of.FJNACE (SHRI JANAR. DHANA PoOJA!l'Y): (a) to (e). The (d) the likely date by which it would Reserve Blnk of India had al10wecf discra­ 4 be done? tion to banks' w. o. f, 8. .85 to determ;.ne interest rates on deposits of maturities of THE MINTSTER OF STATE OF THE more than 1S days but tess than one year, MINISTRY OF SUPPLY. AND TEX­ within a ceiling of 8 percent per annum. Reserve Bank of India bAs reported that TILTES (SH~r CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a' and (b). The Govern­ none of the banks including foreign ~anks ment have not undertaken any study to had flouted the directive. However, when examiOS' tbe eff.ects of synthetic fibres a few bank s started offering 8 percent cootent clothmg on the human skin. per annum even for 1 S days' maturities. all banks simply folJowed suit without (c) and (d) There is no sucb proposal considering profitability angle. R. B. I, under consideration of the 't;ovemment subsequently reviewed the position, and ~ found thr t banks were experieucing dIffi­ at present, culties in responding to the discretion giVf~n them their interest Flouting or RBI Decision by Foreign Banks to to fix own rates on deposits of alJ the matUrities extendmg regarding Ralment of Interest Rates from 15 .days upto less than one year, on short term depos Its Consequently, R.B.I. withdraw such diS­ cretion from banks with effect from 27th 4870 PROF. NARAIN CHAND M~Y, 1"985 and restored the pattern of PARASHAR: Will the Minister of FI- periods and rates 0 f IDterest as were in NANCE b:: pleased to state: vogue prior to 8Lh Annl, 1985, excepting that the rates of mterest on deposits of (a) whether Reserve Bank of India maturities of between 91 days to less lnan announced a major policy decision ning of RBI ~o . (b) if 10, the p~ttern of model relief' as to avoid recurrence of su'ch reversal norms for sick units formulated by the in future? IRBI; and 18J Writre,. AnswMs BHADkA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Written A.nswers 1 S2

(c) how these are beins acted UPOD '1 (b') the amount allowed and the rate of interest agreed upon by the lenders THE MINiSTER OF STATE IN THE and terms of repayment; and MINISTRY Of FINANCE (SHRI JA­ NARDHANA) POOJARY) : (C). (a) to (C) the case in which Government have l~dt1sttial Reconstruction Bank of india \ slood as the surety ? (IRBI) has reported that the institution is presently engaged in prepariog model parameters for rehabil itation of sick in­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dustrial units tD cQnsultation with Reserve MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Bank Qf India and other financial insti­ JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) No tutions, Company in the private sector has so far raised loan in the Euro-)en market during Restoration. of Commuted Vatlae the year 1985. of Pension (b) and (c). Does not arise. 4812, SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN­ DAL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to refer to the reply given to Blank foreign excbange permits to Unstarted Question No, 2767 on J 2tb larger Industrial houses April, 1985 regarding the restoration of <;ommuted value ot: pension after 10 years 4874. SHRI SANAT KUMAR to retired <..eotral Gov~rnmeDt servants MANDAL : WIll the MlDisler of and state: FINANCE be pJe-ised to ~tate : (a) the stage at which the matter stands at present; (a) the names of the large industrial houses and others which are Issued blank (b) whether the Supreme Court has foreign exchange permits on annual ba~ls since given any dIrection or judgement during 1984-8S and 1985-86 upul 10 this case; 31st July, 1985 and the amount thereof for business promotion! (c) if so, the details thereof; and (b) whether any check is being (d) the further action which GDvern- exercised by the Reserve Bank of IndIa ment have taken or propose to that such permits are not bc:ing used for take in the matter in the light pleasure jaunts by the executives and thereof '1 directors of these companies for business promotion, if so, the details thereof and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE if not, the rqasons therefor MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JI\.NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (d). Government are still awaiting the judge~ (c) whether there is a move by these ment of the Supreme Court.- business circles '0 have the validity of these permits extended for three years aad Raising of Euro... Yen Loans to Finance get their amounts raised ; and - Capital Projects daring 1985 by Private Compaales (d) if so, reaction of Government thereto and the safeguards that are beioa 4873. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN.. taken to prevent their misuse ? DAL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : THB MINISTBR Ot: STAtE IN THE <8' tbe private sector companies which MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI had been permitted to raise Buro.yen JANARDHANA POOJARYl: (8' to loans to finance their capital f projects (d). Information is ~ing collected and durins t 98S (uptil 31st Jul" 1985); will be laid on the Table of the House, ,1 83 Written' AlUM m'$ , , AUGUST 23, 1.915 Writ." 'Ilfnswe,,' ,184 , " ,'"

, .,' i~ Export ,~rget 'for 19~~.86 .

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .. (c) the, items' whose exports are MINISTRY OF 'C'bMMEltCE (SURI expected to be 'higifer than fasy three ' P.A, . SA~GMA) : (8) to (~j. 'No (ormar years? . trade agreement, . betweeo the two' Governments bas been signed~ However, THE MINISTER OF StATE IN THE steps are being taken to intensify export MINlSTRY OF COMMERCE \'(SHRI promotion activities and 'commercial PIA. SANGMA) : (a) ',The major export publicity in the USA to increase ex pons items Mtich retcb~d c()osiderabJe amount of .traditi9llal as well as non.traditional of foreign' exchanie during' the' last three product: The Memorandum Undertaking years are :. Gems & Je\)felJery, Leather & on transfer of technology signed recently Leather manufactures, readymade gar. between the two countries 'w ill facilitate ments, chemicals & Allied prod4Cts, Tea trade and collaboralion in ,adv.aoced & mate. Marine Products. Iron ort. technology between the two'~countries. Cotton fabrics, jute manufactures. Metal manufactures; Tobacco (unmanufactured), Coffee, Cashew JC,erDels. vegetabies' & N'o targets have ~en fixed for trade fr~its, Spices, oTI -cakes, Colton raw, between the two countries. The signifl- handicrafts, carpets, Crude Oil and petro­ • cant items of imporcs from USA are in­ leum products. " dustri~l raw materials, specialised, machi­ nary. teChnological items, fertilizel mate~ t b) The e'l:port ta rget for the. year riats etc, ' 1985_8,6 is fixed at Rs. 11736 crores, As regards India's exporls to USA, th~ (c) The e'l:port prospects of individual significant items are largely,. diamonds, commodities or products depend on readYlUade larment, engineering" products, various internati'onal and, domestic leather & }elither products, casbew nuts. factors. The items' whose exports ar,e p.Dd marioe products. e"pected. to be higher 4,uring 1985 86 than the. last three years include Cashew [Translation] • Kernels'; Cereals. .Oil cake's; Spices, Processed foods,' Marine Product~, Iron Propo5aJ for SeI~lng ~I~k NTC, Mills Leather &. Leather manufactures, Cotton • I ',' • "' I ore, fabrics, ,Readyma~e Garments, Chemi- , 4'8'77.' SHRI C. JANOA RBDDY: ctlts & allied PrQduct" E'ngineering goods DR: A.K. PA·TEL : and Randier.rls. ' " w,n tile", 'Min,ister cr SUPPLY AND tliXTltm be Pleued" to :.ta.f~ !. '., ,. It_s in "bleb Indo.U .5. ~rade , f."' ta~e plaCe (a) '~bothcr tho attention· has . ~n 4rawo to, ,tbe .. f~ort .ppeared. it~t.: the :48..76. SHRI K,SI RAO: Will 1be ~States~D' '4ated 29th Jun~, 198.5 tb._'t Minister of COMMERCE ,be .p.scd "to Go,VOrtU'M'qt ~re. ~o.;dorio. ~a p.ro~~l atate to seU·l.6':mill.·0{ N"ti~l.Tcxtile CQ~~ "', ,,' II. till, , Wrlttell dnawe,.., • 86 potation 10 as to ,reduce the incidence pf porI .Deb an allegation of a seneraJ OOVOfJlftleot(..10ntl ; and nat~re.

.~1, (b) if so, the details thereto aad tb(l As repl'ds Safes Tax· all reaistered action proposed in thjs' regard and (be dealers in'Delhi are subjected to aonual perspective offie4al' policy reprd_ assessment ·as weJl as. periodical surveys natioD.lisation of sick industrial unit. ,1 by the field staft'. Surveys a1"e also coo­ duct«! from ttme to' time and unregistered THE MINrsTER. OF STATE OF THB dealerl dete.:ted liable to pay sates tax M[NISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ ,re assessed under tbe Delhi Sales Tax TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHBKHAR Act, '1975 SINOH) : (a) aOO (b), Yes, Sir. The pot&,ntial viability of the Jleavil; losiag As regards Jncome Tax all possible mills of NatiOoal Textile Co~poratiQn, is measures ultd~r the law are taken from undet consideration of the Government. t{file to, time when specific allegaticans There is [1(7' proposal regarding sale of "Qgarding "articular asses sees a evading miH9. The pOSSfbiJity of Qlaking them tax are received. viable is being explored. . With a view to check ","as ion of excise According to the new Tcx tile Policy, duty resorted to by owners of industrial takeover by the Government or nationali; units enquiries/investigatioDs are carried sat ion of sick units which are not paten. out and intelligence is d.lopod suo molo tially viable does not provide a solution and also an information. System of check­ to the problems of sickness and the in" of accounts of industrutl units by Government ...would Bot~ as a rule, inter­ Internal Audit Wing of the Ct"nlral Ex­ vene in such cases. cise department and local jurisdictioqal offices also exists. Beside~, surprise checks are also carried 'by preventive [English] Officers. Eva-don of Payment of Taxes by Indus­ trialists of Delhi Complaints agaiu5t Officers of the Rank of Assilltant CODImtssioners 4878. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD of InCOlDe Tax etc. SINGH: Will the Minister of FINANCE be ploased to state: 4879. SHRI SOMJI BHAI DAMOR : Will tbe Minister of FINANCE be pleas­ (a) whether industrial units in D~lb~ ed to state: evade paymont of taxes and the maximum business done is unaccounted for thereby (a) the number of compJaiats received increasing the blatk money; durlOg the last three yea rs by Govern­ ment or the Central B')ard of Direct Tax­ (b) if so, whether there is any pro­ es against Officers of the rank of Assi­ posal to s)'stematicaHy cheek; the accants stant Cornmis~ioners of Income-tax ICBm­ of the industrial units by the Sales Tax, missioners of Income .. ta-x/Ditectors and Income Tax .and Central Excise aUlbo .. above; riHes ; and (b) whether any of these complaints (c) it $0, whetllu a ~eporl of jDveltl. ,vcro .nvesti,ated and if so, the results thet",of; aal4o.D wi!' j be laid 'on the ' T."l~. df tho Houle? ~) the rea~ fot !tOt iO¥eStisating THB MINISTER OF STATJ! IN TaB tbe remaining compIaiats; add I MINIS'Nty Olt PtNANca {$~RI J~N:\Rl{)9~A POOJARY) : (8) to"(o). (d) whether any a~tioD has been 6oveth_t 'baV'e' 110 ~nrorrba~iOD to s~p- . taken aaaio.st these Qfiiccu whore cb"(Jes 187 Wrlueir Answers .' ., AUGUST 2.3, 1"985 \

were substantiated during the inveshla­ . -. THE MINISTER OF'STATE IN THE tions and if 80~ the particulars of' 'these . ~_INISTRY_ OF COMMERCE (SHRI offidtrs ? , P,A. SANGMA) : . (4) to (d)' y~s, Sir. T,he Government" of Karala had sougbt THS 'MINISTER OF STA~ IN THB sanction of Centra] Gqvernment in the MINISTRY OF fINANCE (SHRl Department of· Industrial' Devel9pmen't . JANARDHANA . POOJARY): (a, 180 for the introdu(:tion of $' Jevy -system . for and 63' complaints were received against procurement of co~o_nut_ husks ilDd for Assistant 'Com~i.ssioners or 'Income-tax delegation of powers under the - Es~ntial aud -Commissioners of J ncome~ tax I D"irec- Commodities Act. '(his mattti' has been o tors rcspe~tively during the last 3 years. • examined at length. . Certain 4!larificatioos -sought by Go\

(c) whether sanction haa bcee' ilsu .. (c) whether. hi& Ministry pro.pose ,t(l cd and ~a~e in~estilatioDs aD4 .inquiry into the management of, this -~ank for the, periocl covcrina 1981_t~ 1985;oand ~ 189 Written Answerl BHADRA 1. 1907 lSAKA)

(d) if so~ the dettdls thereof? (e) . ,he shllre of Antihra PradC"sh, if any, from this loan, for development of THB MINISTER OP STAT'S IN THB industry in that State ? MINISTRY Of FINANCE (SHRI' JAN)\RDHANA. POOJARY): (,a) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB United Bank of India is one of tbe finan­ MINISTRY OF PINANCE (SHRI cing banks for tea, gardens in' West JANAROHANA POOJARY) : (8) Yes, Sir. Denial. , (b) Reserve Bank of lndia has report. (t,) The agreement was signed by the cd that -It has not received any serious Induitrial Finance Corporation of India complaint in the reccnt past about the ('Fel), Lloyds Banks International Ltd, functioning of this bank. S,A., London,' B~nque Beige Pour L (c) No, Sir. 'Entranger' Belgium, Banque BeIge LImi­ ted, Lon400, Credit Du Nord, Paris, (d) Does not arise. Italian IotematiOJ'lul Ban~ PIc. London, The Royal Bank of Canada (BelgiumJ Agreement by lFCl witb Inter~.tlonal Baoid in London S.A Belgium and Nippon European Bank S A. (NEB), Belgium. 4883. SHRI V. TlJLSIRAM : . Will (c) The agreement has been enfered the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to inti) f1lr on.l~nding the proceeds of the state : 10\0 to eJigible industrial concelns for (a) whether it is a fact that industrial financing 'import of Capital Goods for Finance Corporation of India has entered their projects ... into an agreement of ,5 million dollar with a group of international bank5 in Cd) The terms and conditions of the L('\ndon; agreement ar.e set out in the statement given below. (b) if so, the particulars of the signa­ tories to the agreement on both the si~es; (e \ The state-wise allocation of these funds is not being made. However, the (C) the purpose for which the loan financial assistance by way of foreign has bt."eo taken aod .how It will be currency- loans from I FCI would be utilised; available, on merits, to all eligible indus- (d) its terms of repayment and other • trial concerns in India. incluing those in terms and condltions~ and .. Andhra Pradesh. Statement

] . Amount of Loan us $ 2S million. 2. Maturity S years includin, a grace period of 4 years. 3, Dr:wn-down period 36 months 4. Repayment terms 9 equal half yearly instalments commencing from tbe 4th anniversary, of Loan Agree­ ment. S. Rate of Interest 1/8 per cent over LIBOR for the entire currency or tjJe loan, on tax spared basis, It could be increased under 'fall back' conditions upt() 3/8 per cent over LIBOR. 6. Manalement fee 3/16 per cent ftate. 7. Commitment fee 0.2S per cent per anum OD undrawll amounts of the loan commencing ~o days after tbe date of the Loan Agreement or 1 SO days from date of Mandate, whichever is later. 8. Out of pocket expenses, Jegal Actuals subject ,to a (;Ciliog or US S 20,000. expenses aDeI other charges ". 1'91 Wrlttm .-insW,,8 AUGUSt ~" 198'

Ia,estmeat by . dOD.. Resfc1eht I ...... TaB MINIS~R OF ,STATE IN THB MtNlsrRy. OF FIN'~NC6 ' (SRRI 4884. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: lANI\ROHANA POOIARY) : (a) Will the Minister of FINANCE be to (c). To ensure financial disciplin. . ~ pleased tQ state: • al'Jl'Qng the borrowers: an4 to prevent dilutioll of st.n4ards of finan(;ial sCNti~y (a) Vlhether it is a fact tbat most of on the part of the ba'nks, larse borrowers. tbe money now beiI\g i~ vested by the havins credit limits of Rs. 50, Jakhs and non.residellt lndians is bfack ~oDeY,.sent abow with one baok have to have tho concurrence of that bank before havios by Indian. from India; and credit arrangements with another bank. This question does not arise if a borrower (b) is so, the deta ils thereof? . has repaid all dues of a bank and ceased THE MiNISTER OF STAT~ IN THB to enjoy credit limit trom it., MINISTRY OF FJNANCE (SHRI I n' case of ,sma tier borrqwers t he bank JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) kod taking OW!t an a~outU" 1$ expected to merely obtain a credit report from lh' (b) Remittance are made by th~ non­ bank frobl which the account is beiDa resident Indians in accordanue with the :ransferr.ed. provisions of tbe Foreign EJ.change Regu­ ReCoIUtil fng of U nreconcUed AIIlOUDt lation Act, J11973 • tn these .cases &0 in State Bank of India Reserve! Bank of Jndia ha' normally to rely only on the declarations made by 4886. SHRI AN~NTA PRASAD SETHI: them. Hence it is not possible to go DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR iatD!be question of ascertaining the TRIPATHI: 80~ fir these funds unless there are .fin_ and concrete alleaations of the WtJl the Minister of FINANCB be pleased to state :. 'contravention of Foreign Exchaage Re­ lulatioll Act~ t 973. (a) whether there is a time Jimit for reconciling the unreconciled amount JD 1''''''el' of Accounts of Entrepreneurs the State Bank of Jndia; fi'o~ ODe Bank to Another I (b) if so, whether it i':'J being followed 4885. SHRI ANANTA PRAS-,O by the State BaDk of India managemen t; and SETH I : Will the Minister of .FINANCE be pleased to state : ( c) if not, the steps Gove.fment have taken to protect the interest of the de ... (a) whether it is a fact that an entre­ positors? preneur wh. is not satisfied with the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB servicino of his accOuD~ by ope bank, ; ~ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI cannot SO to another' bank" even afto.r: JANARDHANA POOJARY) :

B.l.oQin. of diffenmt cateaories of" Finane.,& Investment Co. Pvt. Ltd. with b~ Whicb ••so b.s a bearioa on de. which also tho above named persons are posito:.'s iDt~rests, is done in State Bank of eOnD~ted. 1ndia acce-rdiDI to a. calender ot balaneing .. Bro,dly sp"aking, 'h~ scbedules .. re beiDI Tho JDCQrpe-tax authorities bave taken ohserved by the branches. Wherever there over seized cash "of Rs. 30~ 13, 180/ ... froftl ar" arrears. specIal efforts are madf. to the Directorate of Bnforcement. ~berevor secUle concentrated attention and efforts any violation or Djt~ct Taxes Acts conies to eradicate them. As at tho end of to notices, appropriate action is taken as 30.6.1985, the bank had some unt'econ. per statutory position. cl1ed accounts at 495 out ot its 7200 bl aoches; Every elfort is being made to LoA. by Indian Bank to Texmaco reconcile these by D~ember, 1985. Group of TextJle Units in IadOllesia RaJd Conducted on the OlBce and Residential Premises of tbe 4888. SHRl B.V. DESAI: Will the Directors of a Chit Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Fund Company state :.

4887 SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN. (_) whetbor in the wake of the reCC)nt DEY: Will the MIDI,ter 01 FINANCE experrence of sticky offshore lendings by be pleased to state : IndIan banks, a certcun degree of nervous­ ness -is vJslble ie baoklOS circles in (a) whether it is a fact that a raid managing Joan ponfoltos; was conductt!d on tbe office and resIden­ tial premises of the Directors of a Chit (b) if so, whether the loan by an Fund Company 1D Delhi 10 the month of Indian bank to the Taxmaco group of July, 1985; textiles units in Indonesia was baaed OQ 1 977 project reports. and (b, Jf so, the particulars of tbe Com_ pany and Its Dlrec(ors; (

FIouclai help to Internatfooa' . Irregularities In Coal In41a Limited Maaa_eat Institate Society 4890. SHRI INDR.AJlT GUPTA: Will the Minister of STEBL, MINES 4889. SHRI M. RAGHUMA AND COAL be pleased to state: REDDY: Will the Minister of FINANCE ~ pleased to state : II (a) whether the Coal Mines Officers Association of India bas -sent a Jetter to (a) the financial h~lp for day to day him alleging irregularities committed at nlDniq of International Management highest level in Coal India Ltd. Institute Society (India) ; and

(b) if so, the details of allegations (b) if so, the details thereof? made therein ;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Government have made MINISTRY OF "FINANCE (SHRI any inqUiry into these allegations; and JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (d). While DO proposal for finan cial help for day to day running of (d) if so, with w~at result? the Joternatipnal Management Institute Society (India) is under consideration of THE MINISTER OF STEEL. MINES tbe Department of Economic Affairs, On AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : a proposal received from the Mimstry of (a) and (b). Yes, Sir, A memorandum Education, the Ministry of Finance was received from the Coal MlDes (Department of Economic Affairs) for­ Officers~ AssociatIOn of India an June. warded to' UNDP in December, 1984, 1985 alleglDg, among other tblOgS, a project entitled' Education in Interna .. irregular allotment of coal to private tional Management, for UNDP assIstance partIes, transfer of an officIal of CCL to the tune of US $ 9,40,800. The at the instance of a local contractor developmen& objective of the projec.t i 'J and blacklisting and re.!nhc;tlng of firms. to contribute to human resourCe develop­ ment fhrough education in InternatIOnal (c) and (d). The alJegiltions are beIng Management to meet India's demands tn lookea into. growing international operatlons. FChlr· institutions were proposed to be covered under the project, as follows : Award of contract for A"... pond in Visakbapatnam Steei Plant • (i) Indian Institute of Management, Banga10re, 4891. SHRI S,M. BHATTAM : Will • the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND (Ii) Indian Institute of Managemenf, COAL be pleased to state: Calcutta. (a) the estmlated cost of th~ Ash­ (iii) International Management Insti­ pond in Vlsakhapatnam Steel Plant tute", New Delhi. area;

(iv) International Institute of Foreign (b) whether it is a fact that the Trade, New Delhi. c;ontract waC) awardt'd to a private engm. eering concern for one crore more than The UNDP's finanda1 assistance is in the estimated cost; the nature of technical assi~tance t<> be proyided in the (orm of expert$/consuJ. (c) the circumstances and rea()ons tants, training, fellowships and equipment which contribUted to such decision ; , only within the aprroved project outlme, . The UNDP have not yet conveyed their (d) whether National Projects Cons- .. decisioD In the matter, ' truction Corporation Ljmited~ Hin'dus- .97 "'rilten Answers BHADRA I! t 907 (SAU) JJ'rltllllJ An,.,,1'1 198 " tan . 'Steelworks Construction Limited, tHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE A.P.S:C.C. etc., Ylere consulted in tbis MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI regard; JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to \ d). Making structural changes in the , (e) it not, the reasons therefor management sel up of public seetor and undettakings is a contjnuing process and va.-ious proposals are examined by the Government in this regard from time to (f) the par ticulars of persons respon­ time This is also included in the terms sible (Ot this decision? of re·terence of the Committee to Review Policy for Public Enterprises set up in THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE September. 1984. Tho.ugh the Committee DEPAR"IENT OF STEEL (SHRI K, has'submilted its report, it is not in the NATWAR SINGH) : (a) Tbe estimated public i~terest to divulge the details of cost of the Ash .. Pond in Visakhapatnam the Report or the action proposed to be Stec1 Ptant area 'at the time of invItation taken thereon at this stage. of the tenders was Rs, 8.20 crores. It was,. subsequently updated to Rs. 8.54 [Translation] • crores. News~item captioned "Subsidy to I_rge farmers opposed" (b) The conttael was awarded tei a private company ; but not at Rs. 1 erofC! 4893, SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: more than the ostimated cost. SHRI VISHNU t60DI : Wi II the Minister of FINANCE be (c) Does not arise in view of reply to pleased to state : (b) above. (a) whether the attention of Govern­ (d) No, Sir. meut has been drawn to tbe news-item captioned "Subsidy to large farmers (e) There is no such practice to opposed" appearing in the 'Financial Express' dated 23rd July, 1985 ; consult these ~artjes. (b) if so, whether the National Bank (f) Does not arise in view of reply to for Agriculture and R.ural .Development part (e) above. : has recommended to Government to discontinue subsidy to big farmers; and Proposal to change tbe set up Cc) if so, the action taken by Govern­ of pubJ Ie uDdertakings ment so far 00 the recom~endation or NABARD? 4892. PROF, P.I. KURIEN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased io THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state : MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARV) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government propose to· bring about basic structural changes in tbe (b) No, Sir. management set up of public sector undertakings ; • (c) Does Dot arise.

[English) (b) jf 80, the details thereof; Baa 08 Recruit_at In Public (c) whether any offort has already Vader1a1dap been made ,10 this di~ctioD ; ad 4894. SIiltl THAMPAN THOMAS: Will tbo Minister of FINANCE be pleuod (4) it 80. the details thereof; . to state : 199 Writ/~JI Answers .. AUGUST 23. 1985

(a) whether tbere is a ban Gn ine Cloaraoc~ Certifieltes Jssued by tho recruitment of workers in all catelories ill Assistant Controllers or Ettate Dt.lty in tbe public sector undertakings; Andhra Pradesb (:118110 in the ea_ of deaths that occured in Arab COWltties to (b) if so, since when this ban is in tbe legal tep~sentatives of the deqe8sed operation; aad . during the last five yean prior to 15th March, 1985..

(0) the rnunber or jobs created in tbe (b) The estate duty has been levied public sector undertakings during the y~ar and collected in one case onT)' amounting 1984 ? to Rs. 10,,352/- as in otner cases the prlncipal value of the estates were below THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the taxable limit. ,/ MINISTRY OF FINANe. (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (8) & (b). (c) No case of compensation amount In January. 1984, public sector under­ awarded after the death of the deceased takings were advised that ex~pt in ~he has came to the D()tice of the Depart- most exceptional circumstances, no new ment. post should be created and that the exist .. ing vacancies where action for recruitment (d) Does not arise, in view of (c) has not been initiated should not be above. fiUed UP. Expenditure on Indiscriminate Import (c) The Information is being collected of Teehnology Transfer Deals and will be laid on the Table of the House. 4896. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will the Minister of FINANCE Estate Duty Clear~e CertifIcate be pleased to state : Granted In Andhra Pradesh

489S. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: WIll (a) whether it IS a fact that huge 1be Minister of FINANCE be pleased to expenditure is being Incurred mdiscnmma. state: tely On import of technology lran~fer deals; (a) in how many cases of deaths that occured in Arab Countries, E~tate Duty (b) jf so, the corrective steps taken! Clearance CertifiClates were granted by the proposed; and Assistant Controllers oC Estate Duty in Andhra Pradesh to the legal heirs of the (c) whether it is also a fact, that deceased dUring tbo Jast five years prior several instances have come to Govern­ to 1 S March, 1985; ment~s notIce involvmg public sector units and public servants where the Prime (b) the total amount of Estate Duty Mmister is reported to have ordC'red collected in the S8 id cases; review and if $0, the dl!tails thereof?

(c) whether. Estate Duty was leviable on the compensation amount awarded THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIlE after death of tbe deceased and, whether it MINISTRY OF FINANCB (SIiRI was the 'estate' left by the deceased; and JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). No Sir; Government's policy on (d) if .not. the measures Government induction of technology from out~jdo propose to take in future ? continues to be' selective and this also has :I been reiterated in the TechnoJngy Policy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Sthtement announced in 1983. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) (c) No in1ormation i. avaiJabre Willi There have been tbirty-two Estate Daty "us. 2.Oj Written AuwerH .. 8MADltA l; 1907 (SAI(A) Wrlften Answers 202 • Ap,Ncatloa of ~ Tedmololl In (a) the steps tateo by tb.e Government Steel I$lystry In lad'a of Orina and his MiniStry to ~"ploit tho mineral rtsour~s of Orissa durina tbe 4897. DR. O. VIJAYA RAMA Sjxth Pfvo Year Plan; • RAO: Will the Minister of STEBL, MINES AND COAL b,e pleased to state : (b) the names of thO .projects. iodua. tries and mineral and metal .. basod pro.. <8' whether Japan which has been aramm~ undertakeG by the Govern­ buying irOl\"Qte from India and elsewhere ment of Ocilla, Ullion Government and is making enormous profits on steel the privato sector; despite paying high prices for iron. ore " and coke imported from Qther countries; • (c) the projett report prepared and submitted for approval of his Ministry for (b) • whether India has had an oppot.. ..0 projects to be started during the tunity to study Japanese technQloax and Seventh Five Year Plan by the Govern. methods of manufacture and management; ment of Orissa, if any ; and and •

(d) the steps fakeD by his Ministry Oil \c) if $0, whether these have been the project reports so fa~ ? applied to Indian steel industry and with what results ? THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : THE MINISTER 'OF STATE IN THE (a) and (b). Orissa produces a number DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. of imI'ortant minerals such as jron ore. NATWAR SINGH) : _). Japan is manganese are, chromite, grapbJ.." bauxite buying iron ore aoo coal from different limestone, dolomite and lead Ore etc. In tied sources including India at very com­ the~~entral Sector the National Atu­ petitive price~. The ·Japanese steel in .. minium Company Limited is developing dustry which is reported to have earned a bauxite mine at Pancbpatmali of 24 profits in i 984-8>, incurred losses in lakh tonnes annual capacity. Bbarat t 983-~4. Aluminium Company Limited is develop­ ing a bauxite mine at Gaod'hamardhan (b) India is broadly aware of the as alternative source of material to its tremendous STRIDES the Japanese Steel aluminium plant in Korba. Hindustan Industry has made by making systematic Zinc Limited have completed construction improvemen t~ in existing iron and steel of Jead mine at Sar~ipalJi. Indian Rare making technolqgie~, Earths Limited are establishing Orissa ... beach sand complex to produce ilmenite, (C) SAIL plants have also embarked rutile t'"tc, In the State Sector Orissa on sImilar endeavour in updating their Mining Corporation have developed and iron and steelmaking techDologies. SAIL are ~rking mine~ for ChromHes, tron bas entered into C91laboration agreement mllnganese ores, Tin and Semi. precious for transfer of technology with NKK. stones. In the Central Sector the National Ja pan 1 his agreement has become Aluminium Company Limited is setting operative ~nJy from July, 1985 and it j8 up an Alumina Plant of 800,000 tonnec; expected tAat IndIan steel industry stands per year capacity of 08 man ;odi and an to sain significantly from it. Alutninium Smeltc;r of 218,000 tonnes per year capacity at Aqsul. Steel Au. thority of India Limited is setting up a Exploitation of Mineral Resources Slag Cetuent Plant at RourkeJa of 7 t lkh of Orissa tonnes per year capacity, Orissa MiolOg Corporation. a State enterprise.. has 4898. SHRI G)RIDHAR~ GO.. receivd an indUStrial Licence for prod.Jc­ MANOO = Will the Minister pr ~TEEL, tion of 45,000 tonnes per year of Charge MINES AND COAL be pleased to Chrome The Indusfrial Development state : CorporatioD of Orissa was issued a Letter r\ 203· Written Answers AUGUS r 23; 1985 Wrltun A1I.$wers 204' of {nt~nt for setting u" of 165,0001Lnd tribal areas and other related adt11inistra­ 65 .000 tonn~s per year capacity Cem~nt lion of the States. State.. wise details Plant· in Sambalpur and SUndergarh thereof; . district of Orissa respectively. Industrial Promotion and "Investment Corporation (b) the schemes aDd programmes of Orissa Limited proposes to set up a undertaken by stlites to uuli'Se the funds Ferro-Vanadium PJant at Ra,4rangpur and utilised upto the end of the last "year with a capacity of SOO tonnes per year. of the Sixth Five Year Plan, Stdte-wise ; In tbe Private Sector, Fdt'ro Alloys Cor­ poration Limited and Indian vtetal & (c) whether Mmistries of borne,' Ferro-alloys Limit~d, have set up Charge AtT ..urs. Health and FamIly Welfare and Chrome Plants of 50,000 and 4S,000 Education reE pectivt"ly have submitted tonnes capacity per year at R ... ndia an4 proposals 0(1' th~ basis of Eighth Finance Ttleruvali respectively. Orissa Spoap CommISSion awat d to get the funds from Iron Limited is setting up a plant of his Ministry ; and 1.50;000 loooes per year of Sponge iron Ore at Pala~panga Keonjhar· district. (d) if so, the details thereof and the Paradeep Phosphates Litl&ite4 is settmg fund" agreed to be provtded during up Phosphatic fertilizer plant at Paradeep. 1985-86, Mims~ry-wise ?

(c) and (d). No project report for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the projects to b~ started during the MI~lSTRY OF fINANCE (SHRI JA­ Seventh Five Year Plan has been received NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). from the §tate Gover nment of Orissa. The Seventh Flllance Commission recom­ mended grants in .. aid to the States (Union Graat. in-Aid Prov idLd for Upgradat;on Territories are hot covered by the recom­ of Slandarcl of Administration in mendations of tbe FlDance Commission) Tribal Areas Durillg Sixth Five for two schemes in the field of tribal ad .. Year Plan ministration viz. payment of compensa­ tory allowance to the employees.. posted in tribal areas ~nd construction of staff 4899. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMAN­ quarters. A statement show JOg the allo­ GO: Will the Minister of FINANCE cat ion and releases scheme .. wise is given be pl~ased· to sta te : below.

(a) the grant-in-aid provided under (c) The recommendations cf the Article 275 (1) to the States/Union Fmaoct Commission regarding upgrada­ Territories dunng. the Sixth Five Year tion of standards of admiOJstration donot Plan as per the r~commendation of apply to the Central Ministries. Seventh Finance CommiSSion for upgra­ dation of standard of administration in (d) The question does not arise. Statement Upgradlllion of standards of trii¥ll admi,listration-grants-in.aid recommended by the Sevenlh Finance Commission ~nd the amounts released lor 1979-84 (Rs. in Jakhs) ... Payment of compensatory Construction of residential State allowance to staff working quarters for staff posted in in Tribal areas Tri-bal areas Amount Amount- AmoUDt Amount recommended released recommended released 1 2 3 4 5 1. Andhra Pradesh 165.00 165.00 56.00 56.00 2. Assam 146.00 109.50 152.00 1SS.15. 3. Bihar 621.00 S89.-84 112.00 90.00 20'$ Wrltt811 Answrl BHADRA t. 1901 (SAKA) . WrltJen Answers ,206

1 2 .3 .. 4 S .4. Hima<:hal Pradesh 20.00 20.0D 24.00 24.00 ~ 5M Ketala • 20.00 20.00 40.00 40.00 6." Madhya, Pradesh 1056.00 361.00 336.00 1031.00· 7. Manipur 74:00 40.0Go 114.00- 8. Orissa 603.00 503.00 ts4.00 284.00· 9. Rajasthan 150,00 • 40.00 190.00* 22.00 22.00 72.00 72.00 to. Tamil Nadu / 11. Tripura 95.00 95.00 24.00 24.00

12. Uttar Pradesh 1.00 1.0~ 16.00 106.00

13. West Bengal 98.00 58.00 96.00' 136.00*

TOTAL: 3071.00 t 944.34 1192.00 2232.75

• Diversion of funds from one scheme to the other was allowed. Shortage of Producer Steel Allotment of Steel to Indastrles

4900. SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAJ-TI: 4901. SHRI' LALITESHWAR SHAHI Wit! the Minister of STEEL, M1NES WiJI the 'Minister of STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pJeased to slate: .AND COAL be pleased to state:

(a) the number 0" large scale, ancil. (a) whether Government are aware lary and small scale industries which have that there is acute shortage of producer been given direct ad-hoc allotment of steel. j.e. flats of thinner gauge in the steel by his Ministry and STEEL Autho­ country; rity of India Limited; and

t (b) whether it is a fact that Bokaro (b) the location thereof? \> Steel Plant, which is supposed to produce THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE thinnor gauge sheet, ha~ not been able to produce anything during the last t\\'o­ DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI ~. three months; and NATWAR SINGH): (a) During 1984 85, the Mew Delhi Office of Steel Authority of India'Limited made allotments. of 6208 {c) the way in which Government tonnes of steel to 59 private parties. propose to meet the situation arising out This requirements 0.2'10 of total sales of this shortage in the market? • by SAtL during the .period of such allotment. ,. THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL ,(SHRI K. (b) These parties ,arc located in the NATWAR SINGH): (a) to (c). Re.. States/Union Territories of Assam. Delhi, ports of short ages have been received Haryana, Maharashtra. Madhya Pradesh, . f~om 8 few consumers. The .production Punjab, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and at HQkaro had suffered on 'account of a Tamil Nadu. strike lasting from April S to May 13, J 985. Despite this. the stocks of Bokaro Import of Raw Silk Opposed • products of HR/CR coils and sheets 4902. SflRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : have shown an ul'war:d trend. Adequate, SHRI VISHNU MODI: imports are being aJlowed through licenses and the cana1ising a'Rency to meet the re­ Will the Midjster or St1PPLY AND quirements of the customers. TEXTILES be pl~ased to state: AUGUST 23, 1985

(a) wbether Government·s attention (b) if so, whether attention of eo .. has been drawn to tbe newsitem cap­ vernment bas been drawn to the news u 1 ti~Ded "Raw 811k In. port Opposed item Captioned 4 Parzi l"1actory Ke Nam fI appeariJ)1 in the •FinancIal Express' Par LaKQoJ). J.<.e Lohe K. Black. (Black dated 22 JLily, 1985; • '\ sale of steel worth lc:tkbs of rupees jl) the name of fake factory ~" appcarull in the . .(b) if so, the 1foQOllS &n' purchasing ~·HindusranH of 19 J~ly, 1985; (importina) such a huge quantity of raw (c) • if so, the number of "such cast's silk by Government; It which have ~n brought to the notice te) whether Government are re-con· of Government during the last three years, sid"ring the questiOQ. of makJD8 tbis full details thereof; purchase ( import); and (d) whether Government have taken any action on such cases SO {art ~d) if Qot, the reasons for not taking action on the suggcsllODS ot the Central Silk Board? (e) if so, the detail.s thereof; and (f) If not, tbe reasons therefore? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TILES (SHRt CHAND~A ~HEKHA~ DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. stNGfl}: (a) to (d). Government have NATWAR stNGH): (a) No, Sir. taken note of the newsitem under refe­ " Only the State Small Industries Corpo­ rehcc. Duriili April·May 1985, Govt. rations'" are gIven 1 "bale by the maIO had received a ~r of representations, producers in the supply of steel so as to mostly frQDl Han~ weavers, regard­ enable them to meet their handling e't­ ing abnormttl ~.io tbe price of rdW penses in servicing the re,Quiremcnts of silk and its sb~ in the market. the small scale industries under their FollowiDI lb_. the Central Silk Board purview. was asked to CMGline the position. While .dtbittios the rise in price in Its (b) Yes, Sir. report, tbe Board lelt tbat the jncrease was only 0( temporary Qd.ture due to (C) to (f). Information is being col­ failure of rains in Kflrnataka and, there- lected and will be laid 00 the Tablt of . for. It did not recommend direct import of the House. silk. The situ8110n is under further assesement by the Governenent; No Emplol ees Suffering From Diseases in direct import of Silk has however, actu- Kbetrl Copper Prolect , ally been made so far durins the year. The price of silk have SIDce also shown 49'04. SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN: favourable bend and, demand for im­ Will the Minister of STEEL, MI'NES ported silk has also come down" AND COAL be pleased to state ;

[Translation] (a) The' number of the employees in Sale or Steel 'd Black Market Khetri Copper Complex who are suf­ .. fering from T... B. Cilicosis., lung disease; 4903. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : StiRI VISHNU MODI: (b) tbe uumber of tho!" who died of tlleae disea,Ses; Will Ibe Minister of STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleased to stato : (c) the compensation paid to the r~ilie, of the doceased pefSOllS; and

THB M[NISTBR OF STBBL, MU~BS ( i) construction of meta) Road of AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHB) : about 8 Km. len,th from Xhar­ (a) and (b). 475 cases of employees khara to Koliban; ,utfering from T. B, have 10 far bo"n registered in the Hospital since tho in­ (ii) construction of metal road from ception of Khetri Copper Complex In Jodhpura k> Khetri Copper 1Q67. of whom 11 have died. No case Compiex; of Cl1icosis has been· regtstered. No sepatate record is maiq,talned in relpect (iii) improvement of road from Bilwa of cases of lung dlsease. viJlage to ChandmarijKOlJhan;

(C) No compensation as such is (iv) provisioD of road liahts on a payable as per the rules of the Company. length of 4 Km. for the benefit However, in case of death of a workman of nearby villages; and on aCiPunt of T .B •• his dependants were paid cash benefits v~rYlllg from (v) provision of drinking water faci­ Rs. 20,000 to 61,750 ac..cording to the lities and construction of cUlvertsj rul~s of the Company. causeways for the nearby villages.

(d) Five. Various jobs have been undertaken even after 1979-80 and arc continuosly being maintained at an approximate cost Amount Spent for Rural Development of Rs. 50,000 per year. and W,lfare in Khetri Copper Projec.t Requirement and supply of power to Khetri Copper Project 4905, SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will the Minlster of STEEL, MINES 4906. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: AND COAL be pleased to state: Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND COAL be pleJ\sed to state: (a, the yellr wise amount Stnctioned in the budget and the amount spent (a) whether the total requirement of under each head till date for rural deve­ power for the entire plant, "mines, town­ lopment and welfare in Khetfl Copper ship and other purposes in Khetri Copper Complex; Project is 28 megawatt only;

(b) whether it is a -fact that at (b) the significant works undertaken present' 32 blegawatt power is beiog' with the said budietaryamount in vJUages supplied to this project by the Rajasthan around the said complex; and State Elec~icity Board and another 18 Megawatt power can be generated (in (c) whether no work was undertaken emergency, by its D.G. set; and except in 1979-80 ? (c) what was the necessity of letting up Rs. 30 crore gas turbine and the THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES purpose for which the power generated AND COAL lSHRI VASA NT SATHE) : therefrom will be uti1i~Jed ? (a) to (C). There is no separate provi. sian in the Budget of the Khetri COpper THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES Complex of Hindustan Co_.pper Ltd~ for AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE): rural development and 'social ~elrare. (a) The totaJ requIrement of power of However, certain schemes for Rural the Khetri Copper Complex (KCC) of Development have been JDtegrated W Jth Hio4ustan Copper Ltd., including the tbe general budget of tho Complex. township,. is about 38 MW at present aDd Importan t jobs undertalcoo by tho Com. is likeJy to go up to 47 MW in the Dcar lex in this sphere include: futuro, 211' Written Answ." AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answer, 212

(b) The Rajasthan State Electricity Will the Minister of STEEL. MINES Board is supplying around 28 MW power AND COAL be pleased to state : to the KCC. The supply, however. has been very erratic with power cuts going (a) the extent of land acquired from upto 100%. In order to operate the (i) the State Government and (Ii) the essential services particularly at the mines. private land a owners in various Stales to emergency power of about 1 5 MW -can' b. meet the reqUirements of the steel plant generated by the Company from its capa­ in the country ; ci~ I>.CI sets. (b) the number of persons rendered (c) the existing power generating dIsplaced (who to~t then lands and capacity of KCC. can hardly serve tbe houses) at the time of commencing essential serVices and operations of the constroctlon of various steel plants and; mines when there is 100% power cut. (c) the number out ot' them who Hence additional 20 MW Gas Turbme were absorbed in the steel plants in diffe­ Plant is being instal1ed at KCC to sustain rent states? continuous operation of the mines and , other plants. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI [English] K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Absorption of persons whose land total land acquired for the steel plants, was acquired for construction number of families dIsplaced, and the of steel plants number of displaced persons employed 4907. SHRI S.M. BHATTAM from dIsplaced families, are as under :

SI. Name of Steel Land acqUIred m Tot,t) No. of No. of No. Plant/State acres famihes persons displaced emplo}ed Private Govt. from diS. placed families

1 • BhiIal Steel Plant, 21,898 11,473 33,371 5,703 3,791 Madhya Pradesh. 2.. Durgapur Steel Plant, 1 t, 163 5,221 16,384 2,150 2,150 West Bengal 3. RourkeJa Steel t 4,775 5,01'1 19,786 4,25 I 4,66S Plant, Orissa .4. Bokaro Steel 25,931 4,497 30,428 13,491 14,512 Plant, Bihar S. Indian Iron & Steel 323 1,609* 638* Company Limited, (Break.up not *(IISCO was taken West BengaJ available) over jn public sector from July 1972. These figures relates to position after taken over) 6. VisakhapatnamSteel 11,870 8,012 19,882 9,592* 1,283 Plant, Andhra Pradel:lb (As on 30.6.85) (In addition 4372 are workmg with the con­ tractors engaged to the construction of the s!,_eel plant2_ ------'-'----~------• This is an estimate of total number of families likely to be dic;placed when alllands (25,780 a~res) required have been R'CqUJred. 2 t 3 Written Answers BHADRA 1 •. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe'8 214

5· Year tax bOliday on l()O per cent (.) the Dames of prirato as well as export· erfented Industries Government spinning units which have applied for expansion of spindlages in 4908. SHRI' SM. BHATTAM Kerala during the P'lst two years; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to stale: (b) whether the applications have (a) whether Government are consi­ been considered favourabJy ; dering a ..proposal to grant a 5 -year tax­ holiday in respect of 100 per cent e,port­ (c) ,whether the restriction with oriented industries; and regard to expansion of spindlages has been lifted after the announcement of the (b) whether Government have new textile policy; . approved 408 propo~als for setting up 100 per cent export projects -in different (d) if Dot, the reasons thereof; parts of the country? (e) whether clear-cut instructions THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been fssued in r~gard to applIcations MINISTR Y OF FINA NCE (SHRI JA­ for expansion of spindlages ; and NARDHANA PODJAR Y): (a) In viiw of the provisions of Section lOA or the (f) if not, when these are likely to be Income-tax Act. ) 961 (inserted by the issued? Finance Act, 1981) w.e.f. 1.4.1981 which provide complete tax exemption in respect of profits and gains derived by an THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE industrial undertaking set up in any free MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR trade zone for a period of fiv~ initial SINGH) : (a) AppJication for industrial Asse~sment Years which is available to all industrial units in the free trade zone licence for expan~ion of spindleage including those which may not be capacity in the cotton textile mill sector exclusively export units ; and also bas been received from one unit viz. MIS. Kathaye Cotton Mills. Alwayc. amended provision~ of Section 80HHC of the J ncome Tax Act, 1 961 as amended by Finance Act, 1985 (w.e.f. (b) No, Sir". 1.4.1986 applicable tQ. a~sessments for the year 1 986. 87 onwards), exemption (c) to (f). Guidelines laid down for 50 per cent of the profits attributable to the I~sue of fresh industrial licences in export by 100 per 'cent export oriented the spinning sector are contained in the units subject to certain conditions, for the pres!=! note No. 8 (1 985) series issued by present any further conc

Applications for expansion or (a) whether there is a statutory control splndlages In Kerala on the domestic price of coffee;

4909. SHRI V,S. VIJAYARAGHA. (b) whether 8om~ control exists in VAN: respect of other plantation crops like tea, SHru K. KUNJAMBU : etc.;

Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND . (c) it Dot, the rcasoDs for colltrollinl TEXTILES be pleased to stato ~ tbe price of cotfco alone; 215 Written Answers AUGUST 23. 1985 Wrillen Answ.lrs II ()

<(l>. whether this control has resulted (i) Dop-submission in time "of all in hardsbip to small growers; and relevant information/documents by the experters, ! (e) if 10, the steps being taken to mitigate tbeir hardships ? (ii) time taken in testing.of samples "'here required for determining THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the admissible rates, and MINISTRY OF COMMBRCE (SHRI P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). No, (iii) delay in submission data (and its Sir. verification) where brand rates! sl'ecial brand rates are claimed (c) to (c). Do not arise. by the exporters.

[Translation] A watch is maintained on the disposal NOR-Payment of Duty Drawback to of claims and steps are being taken to Exporters in Time streamline the procedures to cut down these delays and settle the drawback claims more promptly. 4911. SHRI JITENDRA SINGH: Will tbe Minister of FIN ANCE be .s for the list desired, the time and pleased to state: effort involved may not be commensurate with the anticipated results. (a) whether there is resentment among exporters due to not making payment of [English] Duty Drawback in time which is hamper­ ing exports; Decrease in Demand of NTC . Products (b) whether the payment of Duty Drawback cannot be made within the 4912. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: stipulated period; Will the Mmister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to state: (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and (a) the number of mills functioning under th\! National Textile Corporation (d) whether a list of f;uch exporters at present, their'tlumber State.wise; will be laid on the Table whose payments have been withhold for more than one (b) the details of cloth manufactured year indicatmg the reasons for withhold­ in these mills; ing the payment? (c) whether there is a substantial fall THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in the demand of NTC products and jf so, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SRRI JA­ the.details thereof; and NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) While representations are received from time to (d) the main reasons for less demand time from individua 1 exporters/firms/ of N.T.C. products and the steps taken Associations about specific delays, there to solve the problem and catch tbe market is no peneral resentment amongst the for their products 1 exporters as efforts are being made to ensure payment of Duty Dra" back THE ~lNISTER OF STATE OF THE expeditiously. In a large majority of the MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ cases payment is made exreditlOusly. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) At present. there are 125 (b) to (d) Settlement of Duly Draw­ textile mil1~ under the National Textile back Claims (Main and Supplementary) Corporation viz 103 nationalised mills after eXl10rt takes time on various counts, and 22 manBgeo units. StAte-wise break­ the main ones being: up of these mills is as under : , . 21 7 Written AIUl'H'fI . BHADl\A It 1907 (SAKA)

State/Uaioa Number of Milia Maoased Territory Nationalised

Andhra Pradesh 6 Karnataka .. - Kerala 5 Delhi 1 Punjab -- Rajasthan '"3 t Gujarat 12 Madhya Pradesh 7 Tamil Nadu 14 Pondicherry & Mahe 1 Uttar Pradesh S West Bengal 14 As-;am I Bihar 2 Orissa 1 Mabarashtra 22 -- 13 (b) The mills under NTC produced cloth during the last 3 years is as giveD below :­ (in miHion mts.)

1982.83 760.56 1983-84 '902.00 1984·8S 920.01

The cloth production pattern of the mills 4uring tP84 .. 8S, is as under: % age Coarse 6.0"

Lower medium ~2.64 Higher medium 69.01 Fine :00.50

Super fi~ ..... to.43 Blends" others ---.....",1.42 lOO.O%

{c) and (d). The sales of N't'C products have increased trom Rs. 566.64 crores m the year 1983.84 to Rs. 654.61 crorcs ift the year 1984 .. 8$. 219 AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answers 220 ;

New Institute of Handloom Technology processing, printing and designing for ill the Nor tb East candidates sponsored by State Govern­ ment; Handloom Corporation/Apex and 4913. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH; Primary Socjeties. Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be plelsed to state : (c) Does not .arise.

(a) whether Government have est.l­ Opening of Rural Danks In Nortb bHshed a new Institute of Handloom Eastern Region Technology in the North Eust as men· tioned in the Textl)e Pohc'y 1 98 1 ; 4914. SHRI N. TOMBl SINGH: Will the Mmister of f'lNANCE be (b) if so, the detalls and progress plensed to state : thereof; and (a) whether Qovernment are consi­ (c) if not, the reasons therefor? dermg to open more rural banks in the North Eastern RegIOn 'WIth special rere­ lence to Maolpur In the ne.u future;. THE MINIS fER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY A NO TEX­ (b) if so, the details as to time. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKH/\R number ... nd location then:of;. and SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir.' (C) If not, whether Government pro- (b) The Institute was estabh~hed in p05e to look into the inadequancy {)f the Gauhati 10 AugU~l, g 2 to <.:ater to the eXlstmg arrangemt:OlS and rural bank.mg needs of Handloom Industry in North faCIlities in that n:glon 1 Ea~t. The Institute conducts a 3 year Diploma course in Handloom Technology THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to which 28 candidates per year are MINtS] R Y OF FINANCE (SHRI admrued from North Ea~tern States. The JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and first batch of students have succes~fully (b,. At prt:sent there are eleven regIOnal completed their course in JUlie, 19 R5. rUl al banks coverlOg 38 districts IU the Apart from the Diploma course the Insti­ five Stal\!S and 2 U. Ts compnsmg the tute also conducts Four monlhs Short North Eastern Region. Their State-wise Term Traimng Courses JD weaving, dlstn bution is as under :

StatejU. T. No. of RRBs Distr ict covered

~------.----~--- Assam 5 10 (10)

Pt1egbalaya J 3 (5)

Manipur 1 8 (8)

Tripara 1 3 (3)

Nagalond J 7 (7) Arunachal Prade&b 1 4 (10)

Mizoram 1 3 (3) ------..... ------..... ------...... --.__._ _..._ Total 11 38 (46)*

*(FiiUreS in bracket indieate total districts in the StatejU.Ts). 221 Written Answer~' BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 222

(C) Despite operational difficulties (c) whether local consumers coopera­ arising out of lack of communications & tive societies can be alJotted controlled other infrastructure facilities and seclnity clotb' for distribution; and arrangements, the ,Regional Rural Banks in the, region have been showJD8 steady (d) if so, the conditions and prote­ progress, Within the constraints the d ures thereof ? existing arrangement may not be consi­ dered as inadequate. As at the end of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB February, 19ij5 there were 1236 MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ branches of scheduled commercial banks. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR in the North Eastern Region. SINGH) : (a) Controlled Cloth is released to the States of Manipur through Census of Handloom M /s Manipur Cooperative Consumers' 49J S. SHRI N. TOMB! SINGH: Federation Ltd., MaDlpur. Will the MinIstry of SUPPLY AND (b) The detaHs of controlled cloth TEXTILES be pJeased to state: lifte d by tbe Manipur Cooperative Con­ sumers' Federation during tbe Jast finan­ (a) whether government have ever cial year (1984-85) are liS under: conducted country.. wide census of band­ looms; (Figs~ in Mtrs.)

(b) if so, when and the findings Dhoty 2,82,500 thereof; and Saree 56>500 (c) if not, whether Government pro­ Long clOUt 1,67,500 pose to consider conducting the census in view of the change~ and improvements Total: 5,06,500 proposed to be brought about in the light of the new tel{tile policy? , (c) and Cd). Controlled cloth is dis­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tributed through retail outJets approved MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ by the state GoverDlDent~. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) No, Sir, Loans Given by SBI to Galadhari (b) Docs not ari~e. .. Brothers

(c) Yes, Sir. A census of banc!­ 4917. SI!RI C. JANGA REDDY: looms at All India level is being planned. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOJ ALI KHA'N : Agency I Agencies of Controlled Cloth fn Manipur Wi" the Minister of FINANCE be' pleased ts state : 4916. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: (a) whether his attention has been win the Minister of SUPPLY AND drawn to a report in the (Delhi 'Nav TEXTILES be pleased to state: J Bbarat Times' of June 22 last that the State Bank of India, after havmg loaned (a) the a,gency lapencies through to or stood security for Galadhari which controlJed cloth is released for Brothers in recent years for about Rs. 83 Manipur. ~ croreB wac; in seriouc; trollhie because (i) • the loans were given wlthC'lut securing (b) the Quantiticc; and varieties lifted firm guarantees or securities and (Ii) no by the said agencies during the- la.,t proper documents were prcclIled by tI,e financial year; Bank lxf4..lre committing itself; AUGUST 23, 1985 Wrlt16ft A",."., 214

(b) whether a Director or tbe bank aforesaid dues witb the appointed was keenly interested in gettina the loan receiv,r. The Bank has also referred the aanctioned for Oaladbari&; matter to C.B.I. The SBl has reported (c) tbe detaill tl)e.reor, and tbat the outstandin,s in tbe account of (d) the action taken in tbe matter 1 Mr.. A.W. Galadbari and his group of companies amount to 16.4 J 2 JpilJion US THE MINlSTER. Of STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ dollars. They hold .a cash collateral 01 NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (d), 6.729 million US doUars. The matter is Government have seen the Press Report. being pUlsued by them with the Official 2. State Bank of India (SBI) have receiver for the settlement of the reported tbat their Behrajn Branch cJaim. aranted credit facilities to Galadhari 4. The SBI has abo reported that Bros. and to Mr A.W, Galadhari and tf,ere is no evidence on record of any bis associate companies. The assistance Director of the bank being keenly inte­ to Galadhari Bros. has been in syndica­ rested in .ranting credit facilities to tion with some other commercial banks. Galadhan Brothers. They have indicated that syndicated facility is secured by first mortgage on Foreign exchange earned by export of ffbwers land and building and security documents prepared in consultation with the solici­ 4918. SHR I B.B. RAMAIAH: Will tors of the syndicate of banks for the the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased syndicated credit facility have been to state: obtained. In accordance with the statu­ (a) the details of major items of tory provision further details regarding foreign exchange earner ; the accounts of the constituents cannot (b) whether it is a fact that India is be divulged by tbe SBI at this stage, exporting flowers also to other countries;

3. The SSI had also ex &ended aod assistance to Mr, A.W. Galadhari and (c) if so, annual exports of flowers A. W. Galadhari Holdmgs Pvt, Ltd. The and the foreign exchange earned there­ from 1 SBI have reported that in respect of these Joans also, tft Dormal documents like THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS1RY OF COMMERCE (SHRI promissory nOles, bank facility agreements P.A. SANGMA) : (a) A Statement is have been obtained. The facility was, given below.. however, granted as ' 'cleap facility" (b) Yes, Sir. Mr. A. W. Galadbari and his group of (c) The estimated value of foreign companies have been put under receiver. exchange earned from exports of flowers ship and the SBI have filed claim for tbe (excluding live plants) were as under:

(Value: Rs. in Lakhs)

1982.83 1983-84 1984-85 .. (a) Orchids 3.33 4.43. 13.96 (b) Cut fiowcl'l 11.19 9.44 13.53 Wrhten A.wen 226

Stat._t

(a) Major items of India's foreip escbanae earnings from exports were aa undet; :- .. (Value : Ra. in Crores)

Items 1982.83 1983.84 .(ProvjsionaJ) (Provisional)

1. Tea and Mute ~67 .S3 SOI,,37 2. Coffee and Coffee substitutes 184.20 183.26 3. Tobacco unmanufactured 208.54 149.61 4. Sugar and sugar preparation 62.35 139.86 S. Castl~w KerncJ4) 133.97 156.62 6. Vegetables & fruits (ot-her than cashew kernels) 158.80 155.16 7. Oil cakes 149.35 146.29 8. Spices 88,95 109.26 9. Marine Products 349.45 327.30 10. Meat & Meat proparations 80,47 .68.32 11. Rice 199,60 147.13 J 2. Cotton raw J 01.16 14.8.95 13. Irop Ore 373.79 385.34 14. Manganese Ore 14.95 17.91 IS, Mica 1855 26.52 16, Cotton Yarn 23.25 19.57 17. Cotton Fabrics 265.52 276.54 18, Readymade Garments. 527.50 -ti07.21 19. Madeup articles wholly or chiefty of cotton 97.01 ' 16.21 20, Fabracs of man-made fibre 21.76 26.52 21. Silk Fabrics 31.71 40,58 ~2. Jute manufactures 202.76 164.52 23, COIr and Coir mfrs. 24,60 23.48 24. Leather & Leather Mfrs, (Exci. Footwear) 345.88 349.88 25. Footwear, 25.92 23.23 26. Chemicals & Allied Product 308.20 277.68 27, Oems & JQwellery 894,03 1288.65 28. Carpets handmado 168.51 194.04 29. ·Works of Arts 109.61 116.61 30. Metal Manufactures (cxcl. Iron &, Steel) ~ 201.S6 194.2' ~1. Machinery & tra.nsport ~, equipment 584.60 493.9. 32. Iron & Steel (inCl. mfrs.) 55.75 46.43 33. Crude oil 1003.37 1231.09 34. Mineral fuels, lubricants aQd related products 171.90 361.96 ~------GRAND TOTAL (iDCI. other Item) 8907.75 -;;865."iO 227 Wrltten Answrs . AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Anlw,rl 228

Disposal of Properties or Dfflereat I. Centra! Bank o/Indio Firms of Rajendra Setbla by Central Bank or JndJa (j> It has lodged a claim with offic:ial liquidato( for uncovered portion 4919. SHRI :BHOLA' NATH SEN: of its dues.

WIII the Minister of FINANCE be pleased t> tp state: (ii) Suit has been filed agamst insurance companies and others (a) whether the Central Bank of con~rned to recover ItS dues India and the Punjab National Bank have under insurance pollctes In taken steps for disposing of the properties respect of bills ,overiDI exports held by them in security for the loans to Sudan. advanced by them to the different firms of Rajendra Sethia; (iii) Immova!tle properties are being put to sale. (b) if so, the details of the properties disposed of so far; (iv) It is executing the decree obt.lined by it against ESAL (USA) loc. (c) the outstanding dues of the and is also· inviting otTers for banks; sale of the aircraft beiongmg to Rajinder Setbia. . (d) the amount so far realised by the banks by disposing of the properties II. Punjab Nntioflul Bank pledged to the banks; and The bank is taking all possible (e) the steps taken/proposed to be· ste(,)s to recover its dues from the taken to recover the outstanding dues of various securitIes charged to the the barnes Trom Sethia firms 1. bank.

Cigarette COOipanies to Pay Exd.,e THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Duties as Per Supreme Court MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Directive JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (e). Both the banks have reported that they 4920. SRRI BHOLA NATH SEN: have taken sfeps to realise their securities Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased held in the account of Mis ESAL Com.. to state: modities Ltd. including through disposal of properties, While Central Bank of (a) whether some cigarette companies India has reported that it has not yet are liable to pay e"cise arrears as per tbe succeeded in sale of any property held by Supreme Coull dIrective to them; it as collatoral security in the account, Punjab National Banks reported that it (b) if so, the detaill' of the excise has realised a sum of £ 0 962 million arrears payable by the cigarette com­ through sale of properties at London. panies; The dues of ESAL Group to the two banks viz, Central Bank of India and (c) the steps taken/proposed to Punjab ~ational Bank, as reported by recover the arrears from t.he ~igarette them, are about Rs. 68 crores and US companies; and $ 85.916 million ~ respectively. The amounts realised by them so far in various (d) the amount of excise arrears ways are Rs, J .20 CTores in respect of recovered so far from the cigarette com­ Central Bank of India and £ 0.962 panies? million.n US $ 7,293' million in respect of Punjab National Bank, The followjng THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE steps have been taken by banks, as MINTSTRY OF FINANCE (SHRT reported' by them, to recover their .out .. JANARDHA'NA POOJARy): (a) On standing c;lue.s f,om the firm :- the J 2th July. 1985 Inc HOD'ble SUDreme BHADltA 1, 1 SJ01 (SAKA) Written flllS1Ve,.6 230

Court issued ,directive in P.M.E. disputes THB MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE 8pillst lOme companies includina three MINISTR Y OF FINANCE (SHkI cigarette companies~ A(.cordin& to these JANARDHANA POOJAR.Y) : { &) directiv;:;s, the Department has been- per.. Complaints have been made to Govern. mitted to raise interim demand of excise ~eDt and the NABARD by members of duty on advertisement expenses not aU 0 .. PubJic including MLAS and M. Ps con­ wed to be deducted from /pe assessable taining allegations in the functioning of value. branches of Regional f Rural Banks . in various States including Bihar. (b) and (d): The informJtioQ is being coneeted and wi~l be laid on tbe Table of (b) These complaints l\re got inves­ the House. tigated and appropriate aetion is taken wherever found necessary in accordance (c) The Collectors con.;erned have with relevllnt provisions laid down in the been asked to take farther action in terms regula tions. of Hon'ble Court's Order. r Poor utilisation of tbe World Bank Audit of Gramln Banks 10 Gopalganj, LoaD~ for various projects Bihar in States

4921. SHRI ICALI PRASAD PAN­ 4923. SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN­ DEY: WIU the Minister of FINANCE DEY: Will the Mmister of FINANCE be be pleased to state : pleased to state:

(a) wbether it JS a fact that the audit (a) whether it has come to the notice of Gramin Banks in Gopalganj, Slwan of the Union Government that there bas District in Bihar bas Qot been conducted; been very poor uttlisation of the World Bank loan sanctioned for various projects (b) if so, the reasons for not conduct.. in States; ing the aud It; and \b) tbe names of the States where (c) when the audit of these Gramin the poor utilisation of the said loan Banks is likely to be condu~ed ? has been reported to the Union Govern­ ment; THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRl JANARDHANA POOJARY): ta) No. (C) whether the Union Government Sir. The annual Audit has been conduc­ have asked the States for examining the issue report to the Union Govern. ted. and meot; and (b) and (c). Do not arise • .' (d) jf so, the details thereof 7 Corruption in Gra}Dio Banks ID BIhar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4922. SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI DEY: Wilt the Minister of FINANCB JANARbHANA POOJARty) : (a) to be pleased to state : (d _. The progress of utilisation of tbe World Bank loan for various projects in (a) whethe~ certain charges of corrup­ States is under constant review by tbe tion are pending against the managers of Goyernment or India.' In some Slatot OranUD Banks in Bihar; and proaress in certain projects is lower than target due to limitation or funds or CN'la­ (b) if so, the details thereof and the niaational reaSODS. In such cases, tho action taken aaaiost tho manAiers of Government of India alert the project Oramin Banks ? authorities and State GOYernment wjth a 231 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 1985 Written An$Wers 232

view to improving the utilisation. 'the Perlor.numee of MourausJdll GteDtln State Governments have been requested Sank ia 8lrbbum fn West Beqal to ensure that adequate tunding is avail­ 4925, SHIll GA,DADHAR SABA: able ror priority prpjects iocJqdlo8 those for which Bank assistance has been Wil1 the Minister of FINANCE be pleased sanctiOned. to state:

Female employees In D.C.C.L, (a) whether instr uctjon has been issued to the Mouraushin Oramin Banks 4924. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : in Bitbhum in West Bengal to provide Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES loan assistance for small marginal farmers, AND COAL be pleased to state : , recorded bargadara and grants to assignees of vest land/pattas and for (a> the number of.. female emp1~y~s extension of credit facilities to the new in Bharat Coking Coal Ltd. in the last recorded bargadar! and new asc;ignees of ten years with year.wise break.up till 1st pattas for their covel'age under the scheme January. 1985 : they are entitled to;

(b) whether there is a steady decrtase (b) whether it has been brought to ~ i!l the number ; and his notice that new recorded bargadars and assignees of pattas are not allowed (c) if so, the reasons therefor ? these facilities;

THE MINISTER OF STEEL, MINES (c) whether there is any ceiling hmit AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : of the volume of total credit for a parti­ (a) The number of females employee cular bank ; and .. in B.C.C.L. in the last 10 years, year­ wise, is as under : (d) jf so, guidelines to the bank so as to enable these categoJ les of rural poor As on No. of female to get financial assistance 1 workers

1.1.1976 21,568 THE MINISTER OF STAT!! IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1.1.1977 20,350 JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and 1.1~1978 19,754 (d). Presumably the reference is to Mayuraksbi Oramin Bank, ooeratlOg m 1.1,1979 18,084 llirbhum district dr West Bengal. Regional Rural Banks have been estabh­ 1.1.1980 16,764 shed with the primary objective of 1.1.1981 16,466 meeting the credft~ needs of per~on~ having annual mcome of Jess than 1.1.1982 16,539 Rs. 6500/- and Include, among ofher'i. small/marginal fatmers, agricultural 1.].1983 16,387 labourers, rural artIsans. A farmers, J.1.1984 16,247 cultivating land and conforming to stIPU­ lations of National Bank for Agriculture 1.1.1985 16,774 ank Rural Development for a small farmer is eligible for credIt facilities from (b) There was a decrease tiJI t , 1 .80 a regional rural bank, and it includes and thereafter the number has been more recorded bargadars and assignee of pattas or Jess at the same Jevel. also. Since aU regional rural banks are required to adhere to the abov: gUidelines (c) The decrease was due to certain it was not considered neces,ary to is .... ue Voluntary Retirement S~hemes and natural ~eparate iostructlofl~ in this regard to wastage. Mayuraksbi Gramm Bank. 233 Written Answer, BHADR"A 1, 1907 ($AKA~ Written AlImtrl 234

(b) No, Sir. provided to the farmers who are mostly private individuajs. In terms of new . Textile Policy~ further emphasis would be (e) No limit has been fb:~d, (or the 'aid 00 development of sericulture dUTing total credit that may be gran1ed by a regional rural bank. The amount of the 6th Plao. 'As part of this, area under credit disbursed by a regIonal rural bank mulberry cultivation would also be e",­ panded and all necessary steps for pro­ will depend QIl its resources compri$ing of deposits, and refinance from sponsor vidins inputs to the farmers would be takeD depending on tbe availability of bank and the National Bank of Agricul­ ture and Rural Development.d the funds. d,mand for credit in' the 'area of operation o( the regional rura1 bank, ' (d)" and (e). Government have con­ statuted a committee for suggesting Incentives to encouQtge private necessary stops including enactment of a Investment for boosting central Jegislation for improving the silk produetion · silkworm seed production in the country. The question of providing additional 4926. SHRI B,V, DESAI: Will the incentives would be examined in the light Minister 6'PSUPPL Y AND TEXTILES be of the recommendation of the committee. pJeased to state: Discussion with West German Vic~­ (d) whether Government are con~i­ Chancellor about Agreement on dering to offer some incenfives to encou­ Avuidance of Double Tq,xation rage private investment boo')ting silk production ; 4927, SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to I state; (b) whether his Ministry is preparing a strategy to provide necessary inputs in the identified thrust areas; .(a) whether he had discussions with the West German Vice-chancellor during his viSit in July, 1985 and exchanged in­ (c) whether for increasing lhe avail ... struments of retification of an agreement ability of silk. Government have deci

Federal Repub1i~ of Germany is given such dividends may atlso be taxed in the below. Contracting State of which the company paying the ~dlvic1end~ is a resident, and (c.) The Agreement between the two atcol'ding to the JlIWS of tbat State But countries is expected to .lead to freer flow if the beoeficlal owner of the di~idends or technology and know. how , thus pro­ is a resldent of tbe Olm:r Contraotitlg viding an impetus to India's efforts to .. Stale., the tax so charged shaU not exceed t wards. modernisation. in the case of Federal Republic Or Germany, 15 per cent of tbe grosS amount.C the divIdends; and in 'he case (d) The Protocol revising the Agree­ of India, where the dividends relate in ment shall enter 10to force on~ month whole or in part to a new contribution, after tbe date exchange of the in~tru­ or 15 per cent of the gross amount of the ments of r~tificatton viz" IOlb August, d'v;ciend~ attTJbutdble to the new contri­ 1985 ; and in the Cdse of India it shall bution. The Agreement furthc-r provides have effect in respect of income and capI­ tbat .the IDter~st.aflsmg in a Contract 109 tal assessable for any assessment year Stdte and paid to a resident of the other commencmg on or after 1st Ap(I), 1984. Contracting State may be taxed in that olher St;.lIe. However, such jrJlfrest may Statement also be tax~d in the Contr~cting Stale in which It arises and according to the Jaws The revised Agreement for Avoidance of that State. But the tax tiD- charged of Double Taxauoo wIth respect to raxl!s shall oar ~xceed I 0 per cent of the gross on Income and Capital between the Re­ amount, If such interest is paid on any public of India and the Federal Rl:publlc Joan by a baq,k and ) 5 per cent of the of Germany would, in tbe case of India, gross amount in all other cases. The cover income-tax, surtax and wealth·tax. Agreement prOVides that royalties anf' The mstruments of ratification of this re­ fees for technical servIces arising in a vised Asreement were exchanged on Contractmg State and paid to a resident 10-7.19&5 in New Delhi. The Agrlo!c­ of the other Contracting State may be ment providei that tbe profits of an tlxeu m that other State, However, such enterprise of a Contracting State shall be royalties and lees for technical services taxable only in that State unless the enter­ may also be taxed ID the Contractmg prise carries on busmess In the otber State In which they afJse, and accordmg Contractmg Slate through a permanent to" the laws of the State But In so far establishment situated therem. Permanent as the fees for technlcnl services are con­ establishment, inter-alia, mcludcs a bu ld. cerned, the tax so charged shall not ex­ jog site or construction or m<;tallatlon ceed 20 per cent of the gross amount Qf project only if it lasts more than SIX such fees. months. The Agreement also provides that the profits ddrtved from the operatIOn Steps to DiscourKge Investment in Equity of ships In internatIOnal traffic shall Shares and for the Diversion of 10- be taxable only ID that Contractmg State vestment in Government owoed Finan. in which the place of effective man.age­ cial Ins ti tutions ,.. • ment of the enter.,Iise is situated Not­ withstanding this, such profits may be 4928. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER taxed in the other Contracting State JAIN: Will the Minister of FINANCE from which they are derived provided be pleased to state : tbo tax charged sbalJ not ex.ceed SO per cent in the first five years after tbe entry iDto force of the Protocol and 2S pcI;' (a) whether one or the important rea­ much ceot during the subsequent five fiscal sons of the price rise is due to yearst The Agretment provides that the money cbasina too few equity sbares in diVidends paid by a company which is a tbe stock exchange market ; resident of a ContractiDg State to a resi. dent or the other Contracting State may (b) if 80, how Government intond. to be taxed in tbat other State.' Howover, Curb thi. practice • 237 Written Answers. BHADRA I J 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

(c) whether due to investors lure for 1 ta) whether thousands of equity shares attractive returns ;0 equ;ey shar es Govern­ are traded every day without any obliga­ ment are deprived of tl1~ir investment in tjon to give or take delivery under tho. .~ationalised banks and nonconvertlbte existing arrangements for "fortnightly debentures; and settlement; and

(d' if so, steps taken by Government {b) if so, e.tTective measures propose to to discourage investors to invest money be taken by Governmenr to plug the loop .. in equity shar~s and also to divert their hoJes in public interest? investment to govero ment owned fin lnci.} I institutions? THE MtN[STER OF STATE IN THE 1-.UNIS rR Y OF FINANCE ,SHRI JA­ THE MINISTER OF STATC IN THE' N A.ROHANA, POOJARY): (a) aDd (b) MINISTRY OF fINANCE (SHRI JA .. The Bye-laws of major Stock Exchanges NARDHAN.i\ POOJARY): (8) Inade­ at Bombay, Delhi Calcutta, Ahmedabad' quate availability of floating ~tock m the and Madtas contain provisions accord ing stock market is one of the factors for the to which in the case of such shares as may rise in the priCes of equity shal es. be designated by the Governing Board as specified shares, delivery and payment may (b) Various measures have been taken be eXfended or postponed by the Gover;n­ by the Government directly or indirectly. ing Board by further periods of 14 days and by several other agencies. in tbis re­ each so that the overall period does not gard. These include, RnlOngst other.!., exceed 20 days from the date of the can.. encouraging new i')~ues, increasing the tr.act. Trading in such specified shares ,is floating stock by in"titutional diliinve"t­ subject to vaTious regulatory measures ment and imposition of margins by tho such as impositIOn of dIfferent types of Stock Exchange. ma rgins, etc. WIth a vIew to ensuring $01ooth settlement of tr(lnsactions, (c) It is not correct to say that attrac­ tive returns on equity shares have dep­ Ban in Speculative Trad ing rived nationali~ed banks of their deposits. Aggregate deposits of scheduh::d commer­ 4930. SARI VIRDIII CHANDFR cIal banks have increased from Rs. 60590. JAIN: WiU the M mister of FINANCE crores as on the lasT Friday of March be plea<.;cd to &tale: 1984 to Rs, 721 J 5 crores as on the last F[lday of March 1 985. As regards (a) whether the speculative trading was J 985-86, these deposits have further in­ prohibited In 1969 but the b(\J.1 IS being creased by Rs, 4021 crores,' indie ating il circumrncl1ted; and a growth rate of 5.6 lo. upto 5th July, ] 984). SimllarJy. approvals granted by the Controller of Capital Jssues under (b) if C;O, how the authorities are gOIng the Capital Issues (Control) Act, 19"" 7 to enforce It <;tTlctly ? for raising non-convertible debentures by THf: MINTSTfR STATE IN THE companies have more than doubled from or M1NI<;TRY OF FlNANCF SHRI lA. Rs, J87.82crores for April .. July 19~4 NARDHAm POOJAR y). (a) In 19(1). to Rs. 410,97 CJ orcs for Apnl-July 1985, the Govern[Ji.t>ot issu~d a nOllfication under Section 16~ J) of the Secuntles Contract, (Regulation) Act, banni g trading in secu­ (d) In view of Answer to (c) above. rities for "the clearing'" However, the the Question does not. .arise. Government is empowered under Bye-law 59 of the Bye-laws of Stock Exchanges to Trading in Equity Shares permit extension or postponement (If t-he period for the performance of contracts 4929. SHRI VIRDHJ CHANDER JAIN: in respect of nOn· cleared '1CCuritleos beyond. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 2 J days. AC('ordingJy. in 198 ~ OOVtH~­ to state: ment have permltted the major Stock LX- 239 Written Ans... _" AUGUst 23, 1985 Written Altswers 240 ch'nges to extend or po,tpone the period Nepal Inter-Oovernm~taI Committeo for the performance of COQtrac.ts 4:n.el ed Comprising ot senior offic,erS. Operational into in non ~l~ared securities i. c, band and logi8ticaJ problems jf any, are disCus­ delivery contracts in specified shares by a sed in such meetmgs and attempt made ~o period of fOUf or five settlement periods evolve mutually satisfactory SoJutioDS. of 14 days each, subject to the total peraod Dot exceeding 90 days from 'the date of (d) Government regard, the reported the contract. statemeot of the Nepalies ForeigD Minister as unfortunate, neither reflecting the tra..

I (b) Trading in securities In 'he Stod~ dionally good relatiolls between the two Exche.oaes is governed by the bye.laws countries nor cortributir1g to the further and tegulatlOQS of Stock Bxchanges. IMprovement of these relations. Govern­ Various regulatory measures under the ment have emphatically conveyed its views bye-laws and regulalions such as impOGi .. on the reported interview to the NepaJies lion of different kmds of margme. restric­ 'authorities bot h in New DeIhl and Kath­ tions on the outsumdmg busines!Io position mandu. of members of Stoi..k Exchanges etc., have been taken by the SIo,-k Exchaogel) on Unprecedented Boom ill Share Prices their own and at the Instance of the Go .. vernment with a view to ensunng smooth 4932. SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MO­ settlements of transactions in securities. HANTY ~ Will the Minster of FINANCE Government are keepmg a constant watch be pleased to state : on the functioning of Stock Exchang(s. (a) whether Government are aware of unprecedented boom in share prices Indo-Nepali Trade and Transit Treaties recently reflected in share market and If 4931. SHRI BRAJA' MOHAN MO- so, the reasons th~reof; HANlY: WII] the Mmister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: • (b) whether Government have made any in depth study of its imp.!!:t in the economy; (a) whether Government have cOme across the statement 'of Foreign Minister of (c) whet her on account of new econo­ Neral appearmg In the 'Mindustan Tlm.s· . mic liberallsatton I'oticy, surplus funds gene .. of I 6 July, I 985 wherean h~ has alleged rated expected to be mvested m new that Indo-NepalI trade and trauslt treaties industrial ventures is being diverted to be are unequal treatlc~; dump in the eXIst IDg industries and thereby the objective of the industnal expansIOn (b) whether any Irritants regarding the is being frustrated; implementation of the said trc:atles have been brought to 'he norice of the l)nwn (d) whether Government ha'\le observed Government; that now· a-days much of the transactions in share market are very much speculative (c) if so, the details thereof; and in nature and by-passing the forward tra­ ding restrictions; and (d) the reaction of t"be Unton Govero­ ment as to tt}e comments of Foreign Minister of Nepal? (e) if so, the reaction of Government... THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) There pO. A. SANGMA): (a) Yes Sir. has been in the recent past a considerable increase in the prices of shares of various (b) and (c). The working 01 Indo .. companies Jisted on Stock Excbanaes. Tbe Nepal Treaties of Trade and transit are , Reserve Bank of India Index Number of reviewed every year jointly by representa. Prices of Ordinary Shares (l970.71 = laves of the two GoveromeDts in tbe Indo- 1'00) Increased from 219.4 for tho weck 241 Written .4nIw." BHADRA 1. 1907 (SA.KA) WrItten A"sw~r3 242

j ended 5th January, 1985 to 371.3 for the (b) jf so, the reasons thereof; and week ended 3rd August, 198 S. The in. crease in prices of shares was largely due (c) if not, whether Government pro­ to stveral favourable facton obtaioing in pose to review the position? the economy. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF' THE (b) Government are keeping a constant MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX. watch on the functioning of the Stock TILES (SHRf CHANDRA SHEKHAR Exchanges. SINGH) : (a) There is no such processing ingredient virtually controlled by Reliance (c) Both existing companies and new Group of Mills. companies have been raising funds through capital issue for financing their expansIOn I (b) and (c). Do not arise. new projects. Investments in new iijdustnal venture~ have not been adverseJy affected Export of Rice, Wheat aDd SU8ar on account of investrneo's in existing companies. 4934. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI: (d) Trading in securities in the Stock SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: Exchanges is governed by the bye~Jaws and regulations of Stock Ex.changes. Va­ Will the MlDlster of COMMERCE be rious regulatory measures undl!r the bye­ pleased to state : laws and regulatIOns such as imposition (a) the total quantity of rice. wheat of dIfferent klOd5 of margin." restrictions and sugar exported during 1980-81, on the outstandtng business position of 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84 and members of Stock Exchanges etc" have 1984.85 as on 31st Mdcch, 1985; been taken by the Stock Exchanges on their own and at the instance of the Go. (b} the total foreillo exchange eo rned vernment with a view to ensunng smooth tht:refrom; r,ettlements of transactions in secufltles. (c) whether any import of food arti. (e) The question does not arise in view cles was there in those years, if so the of answer to (d) a~ove. details thereof;

Textile P;ogressing Ingrl'dients Controlled (d) whether export of these food by Reliance Taxtile, Bombay articles m any manner atfected the rice and supply of our domestic market in these 4933. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DA~ years; and MUNSI: Will the MlOister of SUPPLY AND TEX11LES be pleased to state : (e) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether it is a fact that the main THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE textile processing ingredient are virtuaUy MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (iHRI being controlled by only Reliance Tax. P.A. SANGMA) : (a) and (b). The total tile Group of Hombay and this had quantity and value of exports of rice. resulted in the sickness and discrimination wheat and sugar since 1980.81 were as to other uni t; under: (Quantity: '000 tonnes) (Value: Rs. in Crores)

Year Quantity Value 1980-81 862.6 270.01 1981-82 1027.9 417.56 1982-83 845.0 284.26 1983 .. 84 (provisional) 1062.5 358.0:1- 1984 .. 8S,~,t .' ), X· 26 S.2 107.39 ('X' Figures for wheat and nce pertain to April-December, 1984) (.Source : DOCI & S, Calcutta aDd STC) 243 Wrlltm ,Answers AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answer'! 244

(c) Import of wheat and rice through the Food Corporation of India aAd of sugar through the State Trading Corporation of India since 1980.8' were as under:- • Year Wheat Rice Sugar (Quantity contracted)

1980~81 J .81 1981-82 ,. 22. 65 2.1 S 1982-83 39.~0 1983.84 21.30 7.20 1984-85 4.96 .. (d) and (e). Export policy is formu- ciar institution for tackling its needs of lated taking into account the production modernisation; prospects; assessment of domestic require­ ment, exportable surpluses likely to be (b) if so, the details thereof; and generated, and the probable impacts on the domestic price stituation. (c) the reaction of Government thereon? Plan for Import and Distribution of Natural Rubber THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 4935. SHRf"K KUNJAMBU : wIn 'MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ the Minist~r of COMMERCE be pleased TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR to state: SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether Government have drawn Cotton MiUs Federation up an import and distribution plan of (b) ~ndian natura) Tubbt'r; and has suggested that m view of the specia­ lised requirement of the textile mdustry and the need for concerted offorts to (b) if so, the details thereof? catry out modernisation, a separat~ agency be establisheCl to tackle the needs of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE modernisation of the IOdulltry. MJNfSTR Y OF COMMERCF (SARI P.A. SANGMA) : (a) Yes. Sir. (c) As per the new Textile Policy, a national level ~tanding Advisory Com­ (b) As per preliminary assessment a mittee on modernic;ation of the textile dema~.sllppJy gap of 29,000 tonncs was jndustry c;hal1 be 'jet up, whlC'h would estImated for 1985-86. Of this, STC include representatives of management and has been allowed to import 20,000 tonnes Jabour as alc:o suitable technical experts to meet supply-demand gap upto August, and rerrt'!f!lntatives of financial in'jtitu­ 1985 tions. This Commit~e shan identify 00 a continuous basis the needs mQdernisa .. Financial Institution for Modernisation tion and the type of modernisation that the industry should adopt. of Cotton Textiles Indus-try. 9 4 36. SHRI K. KUNJAMBtJ : WIll the Complaints Against Buks in Giving Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES Advances Under Educated Employ­ be please-d to state : ment Gnaraatee. Scheme

(a) whether Government have recei. 4917. SHRT JJTEND~ PRASADA' ved sugge'Stions from cottOn textHes Will the Minister of ~NANCE industry for s~ttin8 up a separate finan- pleased to stato : 245 Written Answers BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 246

wbether it is a fact Government lakh tonnes of low ,rade tungsten ore have received a large Dumber of com .. with 0.1 % WOa has been made on the basis plaints against the bank~ in giving pl'esent work. Further ex.p)oration work advances under the "Educated Employ­ in the area by DGM, Uttar Pradesh, is ment Guarantee Scheme" in Uttar still contln'ulOg. Geological Survey of Pradesh; India carried out regional geological and geochemical surveys to locate tung·ten in (b) if so, the aature of the complaints the Atmora district of Uuar Pradesh but and the action Government have taken tbe results were not encouraging. the('eon; and Smuggling of GoJd and Silv~ (c) the steps Government prQPose to take so that these complaints do not occur 4939. SHRI HARISH RAWAT in future? Will tbe Mrnister of FINANCE be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF S'PATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (a) whether it is a fact that smuggling JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c). of gold and silver in India has increased PresumabJy, the Hon'ble Member is re· enormously during the last six months due fer ring to the Scheme for providmg Self­ to large difference in the sale prices of employment to the Educated Unemployed · these metals in India and its bordering Youth which was introduced in the )ear countries; aod' 1983-lC4. In a Scheme which is beuig implemented on a large scale not only in (b) if so, the names of the bordering Uttar~radesh but throughout the country, countries and areas thereo! froen where there may always be a few compl iints the smuggling of these items has increased regarding delay loon-sanctioning of loans and the steps Government propose to take and availment of loan by non-eligible to deal with the situation '/ persons. However, complaints whenever received are got looked into with a view for taking suitable remedial action. THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THB MINlSTR Y OF FINANCE (SHRI JA­ N ARDHANA POOJ AR Y) : (a) Reports [Tram la/ion] received by the Government and the Availability of Tungsten in Chital, trends of seizures made during the Jast Uttar Pradesh six months in 1 985 indicate that gold continues to· be an item sensitive to 4938. SHRI HARfSH RAWAT: smugglmg into the country beci:luse of Will the M.nister of STEEL, MINES increased profitability. However, there AND COAL be pleased to state: is very litt1e smuggling of silver out of the country lor want of profitability. (a) whether survey work for tungsten in Chitai (Almora, Uttar Pradesh) has (b) Gold is' smuggled into India by since been completed; and air, sea and land from the Middle East countries, HongkC'ng, Singapore, Srilanka, (b) if so, the quality of the tungsten Maldives, Pakistan and Nepal. reserves ther~ and the steps being taken by his Ministry for its explorati9n ? The drive against smugglers has been intensified. The preventive and intelligence THE MINISTER OF STEeL, MINES machinery of tbe CllStoms department AND COAL (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : has been reinforced in terms of manpower (al and (b). The Directorate of Geology and equipment. The scheme of rewards and Mining (DGM), Uttar Pradesh, i. to informer, and Government servants carrying out survey to locate tungsten has been Hberalised. In addition, appro­ near Chitai in Almora District of Uttar priate anti-smuggling measures, botb Pradesh. A preIiDli,nary estimate of 2 ~ort-term and loos-term, are taken in 247 -Writtm Answers AJ,JOUST ~3, 1985 H'rltten Answers 248

close co-ordination with the concerned Opening of brandl offices of Central' and State Government authorities, LIe in U.P.. The trends of smuggling and seizures are kept under constant 1 eview for taking 4941 •. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : appropriate remed a1 action. as warranted. Nill tbe Minister of FINANCE be pJeased to state: Steel Distribution Depots in Hilly Areas (n) the number of branch offices of 4940. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Lifo! Insurance Corporation in Uttar Wjll the Minister of STEEL, ML"ES l'radesh ; AND COAL be pleased to state : (b) . whether some specific norms have (a) • the number of steel distribution been fixed for opening these branch depots or agencies functioning in hilly offices; areas of each State of the country; (c' if so, whether there is jusJfication (b) whether there is a proposal to for opening s

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TilE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI NATWAR SINGH) : (a) There are JANARDHANA POOJARY) (a) twelve distribution outlets of the main The number of Branch Oakes of Life producers of steel in the hilly areas of Insurance COl poration of India in U .p. diffetent States in the country. Their is 1 3 1 as on : I .3.1 98 S. details are given below :-

Number of (b) Norms (or opening new Branch State distribution Offices include several f.lctors such as outlets existing field organisatioll, actudl newo business production, future business potential of the proposed area population Assam 5 covered by existing branch from which NagaJand 1 new branch is to be carved out and the Jammu and Kashmir 3 distance of the new Branch location from that of the eXIsting branch office. Himacha1 'ladesh 2 West Bengal 1 (c) to (e). The Officers.in .. Charge of the Divisions examine the potential for TOTAL 12 opening of new Branches under their respective jutisdjction and submit their annual plans through the Controlling (b) No, Sir, Zonal Manager for approval of the Central Office of LIe, The Central Office (c) Steel Authority of India Limited of the LIe has approved the {oJ1owing proposes to commission a Depa.rtmental 1 2 new :Branches for the State of Stockyard at Dharam Nagar in the State U, p. in the development plans for of Tripura. 1985... 86 :- 249 Wr1tt~n AnlWtr, BHADRA 1,1907 (SAKA! Writlen Answen 2S0

S. No. Name Distract ----~-----.. -- .. - -- ... _... ----...... _.... -- -_ ... -._- --- 1. Tithar Shabjahanpur 2. Lucknow City Lucknow (Trans Gomti) 3. Khatcma Nainitat 4. Sahaswan BudauB S. Kosikalan Mathur. 6.. . Aligarb-I1 Aligarll 7. fatehabad Agra 8. Agra Cantt. Agra 9. Rasara ... HaIlia 10. Mohammadabad t(J hazi pat' 11. Shahganj Jaun,ur 12. Varanasi City Varanasi (Maruwadiah)

The above new Offices are proposed to be opened during the current financial year on or before 31 st March, 1986.

{English] anticipated gap between demand and Silortage of metal scrap and indigenous availability of Carbon Steel steel scrap Melting Scrap in the country during 1985.86 is estimated at 10 Iakh tonnes 4942. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. This gap is' proposed to be met b; NAIK : Will the Minister of STEEL, import of Carbon Ste-el Melting Scrap~ MINES AND COAL be pleased to Sponge Iron and Hot Briquetred Iron. state: No report has been rec("'ived about closure of any MIDi Steel Plant due to non. (aj whether there have been scarcity nvnl~ablllty of Steel Scrap, of metal scrap and steel .scrap for manufacturing quality steel in the mini Spon~ iron plants in Orissa steet plants and large steel plants; 4943. SHR1MATI JAYANTI PAT. (b) whether the shortage and noo. NAIK : WIll the Mml ... ter of STELL. 'availability of metal scraps have 'ed to MINES AND COAL be pleased to the closure of many mini steel plants in state ~ tbe couf.ltry ; (a) the number of sponge iron plants (c) if so, the steP'S proposed to be which have been set up in Orissa and taken to t11ake these scraps available to other States so far; meet the demand of steel p1ants ; -and (b) the location of each of the~e (d) the details thereof? sponge iron plants ;

JHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THT: (c) the number of sponge iron ~ant'i DEPARTMFNT OF STFFL (SHRT which have started commercial productIOn K. NA"fWAR SINGH) : ea) to (d). The so far; 251 Written .4nsKerta AUGUST 23. 1985 Written Answers 2 S 2

(d) the annual production capacity calion and the aDoual capacity of the units of each of these sponge iron plants; granted Licenses/Regi$tratlons for the aDd production of spoDAo iron in the State of Orrisa and other States IS given below. (e) the details thereof? ODly.two units viz., Mis, Sponge Iron THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE India Limited and MIs. Orissa SpoDllC DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRl K. Iron Limited, Nayagarh are in produc­ NATWAR SINGH) : (a) to (e). A tion. 1'be remaming units are at the statement containing a list indicating the 10- various stages of implementatton. Statement Li.st 01 Units holding Industrial Llcenst!s/ Registration lor the productiOIl of Sponge Iron

Sl. Name of the Unil Location Capacity No. (10 tonnes per annum)

1. Mis. Sponge Iron India Limited • KothagudclDl 60,000 Hyderabad (A.P.) 2. Mis. Bihar State Industrial Deve­ Ranch. 1,20,000 lopment Corporati~n Ltd. (Bihar) 3, Mis. GUjarat Industrial Invesunent HaJlra Surat 4,00,000 Corporation Ltd. (GuJarat) 4. MIs. Steel Authonty of Indm Ranchi 3,000 Limited, Ranch. ( B.har) s. Mis. Karnataka State Industnal Hospet Bellary 1,50,000 Development Corporation Llmlted (Karnataka) 6. MIs. SaroJ Alloys & Steel Limited, -do- 20,000 Hospet 7. M Is. State Industrial Investment Raigarb 4,00,000 CorporatIon of Maharashtra ( Mabarashtra) ~ 8. Mis. Madhya Pradesh Audogik Ralpur ] ,50,000. VU,ash NI~am Limited (Madhya Pradesh) 9. Mis. OrIssa Sponge Iron- Limited Nayagarh Keonjbc1r 3,00.000 (Orissa) 10 .. M Is. Industrial PromotIOn & Invest­ KeooJbar 90,000 m~nt Corporation of Onssa (OrIssa) J ) • Mis. Blrla Jute Manuf~cturing Patrato 40,000 Company Limited (Bihar) 12. Mis. Hope India Limited, Calcutta PuruJia 60,000 (West Bengal) 13. Sbri T.A. Bukhari, New Delhi BWA 20,000 (Karnataka) ) 4. Shri Jagdish Prasad, Calcutta Shivsagar .. 4,00,000 (Assam) 15. M Is. West Bengal Industrial Deve­ J amsol Chakdf\a 1,50,000 lopment Corporation Ltd. Burdwan (W.B.) 16. Mis. Kesoram Iudustrial, Calcutta Kconjhat 1,50,000 (Orissa) 17. Shri Krisbnam Raju S. H yderabad Distt. Medak 4,00.000 (A.P.) 253 Written Answer' lJHADRA). 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers .2 54

Openlna ~f staff training centres of Opening of Branches of Onion Bank Unioo Bank of Iodia of India In Oris,a and Other States

4945. SHRIMATI JAYANTJ PAT. 4944. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT­ NAIK: WiH the Minister of FINANCE NArK: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: be please

(b) the names of the pJaces where (b) if so, the number of "ranches ot those trainina Centres have been opened ; the ba·nk opened in different States 80 far; and

(c) whether Government have (c) the .number of branches of tbat ptoposal to set up one such Staff bank proposed to be opened in OrisS4l Training Centre of Union Rank of India and other States in J 985-86 financial in Orissa; and year?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the steps taken in that MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI regard 1 JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) Yes, Sir. The number of offices of Union THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bank of India which was only 241 at the MINISTRY OP FlNANCE (SHRI time of nationalisation of major commer­ JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and dal banks in f 969 had increased to 1544 (b). Union Bank of India has reported bv the end of March 1985. that it has a Staff College located at Bangalore and 7 Training Centres located (b): A statement showing Statewlsc-' at (1) Alwaye (Kerala), (2) Ahmedabad Union Territorywise distribution of offices (Gujarat), (3) Bangalore (Karrrataka) , of Union Bank of India as at the eod of ( 4) Bhubaneshwar ( Orissa), (5) Bordi March. 1985 is given be'ow~ (Maharashtra), (h) Ghazipur (Uttar l)radesh) and (7) Lucknow (Uttar (c) The question of a1lowing Pradesht ' Union Bank of India to open more bran­ che~.. in OrisSJ will be consid~red by Reserve Bank of India in the light of tile (c) and (d 1• One Training Centre has branch Jicen<;ing policy for the Seventh already been set up at Bilubaneshwar in Pi ve Year Plan 'l»eriod which is being Orissa on ·19.7.8S. finanlised.

Statement

Statement showing Stote-wise/Unloll Terrltory-wi8e distribution (Jr offices of the Union Bank of India as at th .. end of March. 1985

----~----- State/Union Territory Number of offices Andhra Pradesh '------96 Assam '.23 Bihar 60 Oujarat 156 AUGUST 23., 1985 Written Answers 256

State/UDi_ Terri'ory Number of oflh:es Haryana ... 24 Himachal Pradesh 9

Jammu aad ICashmir 5 Karnatata 69 x.eraJa J06 Madhya Pradesb. 128 Maharashtra 227 Meghalaya. 2 tissa 25 Punjab­ 49

:R.ajasthaB 39 Tamil Nadlll 96 Tripara. 1 1Jttar Pradesh: 326 West Bengal 53

Delhi. 38 Chaodigaril 2 Goa,. Daman and Diu 9 PODdicbcrry 1 ------TOTAL 1544

ITran.rlatlon] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Tax Evasion and Resultant Loss JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). No specific exerci2les have been 4946 SHRI KRISHNA PRATAP made to quantify evasion of direct and SINGH"': Will the MlnlMer of FINANCE indirect ta"cs. Therefore, it is Dot possi­ be pleased to 8t~'e : ble to estimate the percentage of various taxes/duties cryaded aod the loss of reve­ ( a) tbe pcr centage or variocrs ta"el nue suffered on this account. However, cyaded and tbe losa of revenue su.fICl'ed an estimate of black money has been thereby; made by National In$titute or Public Finance and Policy in their Report Od Aspects of Black Economy in India. A (b) the extent to which tax evasion ba~ copy of this Report has already been been reduced as a result of tbe measures laid on the Table of the House. Tbe adopted by Government durinl the )aSI authors of the Report have admitted that three years iu oFder to check "'".evasion; results are based on numerous assump­ and tions aDd apprOXimates which can be cbaUcnged. (c) the rrew steps proposed to be taken by Government to check it? (c) As regards direct taxes all admi.. 2' 7 WrlttelJ Answers BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Written AIIIWel'8 258 .. oistrative, legislative, and institutional {iii) An exhibition of carpets was tneasures to check evasion thereof are organised in South Korea June,

taken from 4ime to time. As regarcts o 1984. excise duties, preventive checks and eKcise controls on factories have been intensif;ied (iv) Salesacum-Study team was spon­ to check the evasion of Excise duties. sored for West Germany, Den­ Government have taken various steps to mark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, check evasion of Customs duties. Alert and UK.October-Novcmber, nol ices are issued from time to time to 1?84. watch the imports of aoy particular com­ modity Or by any particular individuals. (v) SaJes-cum.study team w.as spon .. In caSes where suspicion regarding value sored for Hong Kong, Singapore arises of misdecfaration of .contents is South Korea and Japan-July. apprehended, such cases are referred to 1985. Special Intelligence and Investigation Branch for close scrutiny, In appro­ priate cases, the Economic Wing of the (vi) Special Exhibition of handicrafts C.B.1. is also associated. includmg band-knotted carpets was organised at Doha during 1984. [English] New Market for Export of Handicraft (b) Handicraft is a highly decentra .. Used cottage sector. Reliabl~ production 49t17. SHRI AMARSINH RAT­ data is therefore not available. However HAWA: WIll the Minister of SUPPLY according to rough indication the produc... AND TEXTILES be pleased to state : tion of hand icraft was estimated around R~. 3250 crores in 1983-84. (a) the measures taken to explore the new market for the export of handi­ The provisional value of exports of craft and products; handicrafts excluding gem and jewellery during the last three years are as under:- (b) the value of goods manufactured by handicraft, exported during the last Year Value in Rs. crores three years, year-wIse; and (Prov.)

(c) the stc)ps being taken to capture 1982-83 346.30 new market in future ? 1983-84 345.82 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF 'SUPPLY AND TEX­ 1984-85 397.37 TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR • SINGH) : (a) Several promotional (c) The following steps are beina measu.res have been raken to explore and taken to sustain the eXIsting markets and develop new merkets and to sustain exis­ develop new markets : ting markets for exports of handicrafts. Some of them are as under :- 1. Indian handicrafts have been exhibited at Festival of India held (i) Sales-cum-Study team was spon­ in France and USA •. sored for Saudi Arabia. Dabara­ in and Dubai-Feb., 1982. 2. An exhibition ot handicrafts I. (ii) Sales-cum-Study team was spon­ proposed to be organised at soted for USA and Canada Kuwait durin, the current financial October.November, 1982. years. 2' 9 Written Answtrs AUGUST 23, 1985 Written Answers 260

3. A Metal Handicrafts Service development of markets. A Dumber of Centre is being set with UNOP measures have beep incorporated in the assistance at Moradabad t) im Import and Export Polic, for 19S5-8lt prove the quality and finish of to encourage exports from .sSI sector and artmete:lwarci. the Government is constantly engaged in exploring new markets for eAports. 4. Publicity materials including bro­ Items such as products, chure entitled "Master craftsmen (b) marine finished of India" are being brought out readymade garments, leather find leather products. sports goods, bandloom, for publicity abroad. handicrafts, etc. 8re exported mostly by small scale units directly or in-directly 5 e A Export Promotion Council for through Export Houses, Trailing Houses, Handlcrafs J8 being set up to boost up exports of handicrafts. N.S.! C" STe, State Export Corporations etc. The quality of the good~ exported is checked marnly by the Export Inspec­ New Markets for Export of Small Scale tiOn Agencies or any other agency autho­ Industries Products rised for the purpose by the Government. 4948. SHRI AMARSINH RAT.. (c) According to foreign trade statistics HA W A: WiIJ the Minister of COM­ compiled by the DOCI & S, India's total MERCE be pleased to state : exporfs were Rs. 7805 9 crores In 19 S 1 - 82, Rs 8907.8 crores in 1982-83 and (a) the measures being taken to Rs.987:!.1 crores in 1983-84.~ The exp10re the new market for the export of latest available provIsional figure for small scale indu stry products; India's total exports durmg 1984-85 is Rs J 1396.0 crores, Export statistics (b) the nature of goods' which are are not compiled £eparately for the small being exported from small sCclie industnes, scale sector and the large of mdustry. the agency through whIch these goods However, dIrect and indIrect exp( rt~ from are being exported and who is responsi­ the small scale ~ector are substdntial. ble for maintaining the quality; Sizes of Rupee] /- and Rupees 2f .. (c) the value of goods expol ted Coins scale sector manufactured by small scale indu~ttles during the last three years, year-wise; 4949, OR e CHANDRA SHEKHAR and TRIPATHI: WllJ the Mmister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (d) the steps being taken to capture new markets in future? (a) whether the size and shape of one rupee and two rupees c~ins are similar to ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE. • tho~e or old SO paise and one rupee MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHR [ coinq; P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (d). In order to overcome the difficulties which (b) jf so, whether Government are e)-porters are likely to face In entering a taking any steps to end the similal ness new market under the Import and Export in these coiDe~: aDd Policy, the registered exporters are given encouragement by providing import re­ (c) if SO, the details thereof and if not plenishment at a rate higher by t 0% of the reasons thereof? ethe normal rate. This provision is for products Including those manufactured by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SSI Units and in respect of ma"'kets MINISTRY OF FINANCE (~HRI JA­ which are specified from tirne to time. NAROHANA POOJARY,: (a) to (c) Besides, Market Development Grants, are Although the q;ze ancJ ~hape of the old also given to SSI export houses for one rupee coin and two rupees coins are 26 J Written A1fswers BHADItA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 262 similar, these two coins are distiuJuish;lble . THE MINISTERDF STATE IN THB because' of certain in-built .distinctive ~INrSTRY OF FI.NANCE (SHRI features. Howewer, on the basis of, JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to reports of inconvenience and difficulties (t).· The Scheme for providing Self. experienced by the public it was decided employment to Educated Unemployed 1ft December 1983 to disc,ontinue the Youtb was started from J 983-84. From minting of the two rupees coin of tho tbe next year, i.~. 1984.H5, it was de. same size and shape as the old one rupee cided that at least SO% of the cases coin. should be sanctIoned for industrial ven­ tures. The main objective was Dot to discourage traders or businessmen but to The new one rupee coin and the SOP encourage the creation of productive coin are different in size and weight and assets. There is no proposal under COn .. are easily distiDg.ishable from each other. sideratioD to change this stipulation for The details of the new one rupee and the present. SOP coins are given below :

(English] DenomiM Weight Size Shape ExpJrts by nation {In gram .. (in milli- src mes) meters-dial 4951. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN:

t Rupee 6 26 round SHRJ GURDAS KAMAT : ,new)

50 Paise 5 24 round Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state:

Granting of Loans to Educated (a) . the statistics of total exports made Unemployed by the State Trading Corporation, total earnings, total expenditure. investment on ,4950. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR infrastructure and funds provided by TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of FI­ Government during tho last three years; NANCE be pleased to state:

(a) whether any circular has been (b) whether the exports of STC in .. issued to the effect that while granting elude exports made by private parties in the loans to educated unemployed for the name of State Trading Corpora. providing employment, ~o per cent loans tion ; and should be granted only for setting up of industries ; (c) if so, the ratio of such exports with exports made by STC itself ? ( b) if so, the deta ils thereof ; THB MINISTER OF StATE IN THB (c) whether tradors and businessmen M1NISTRY OF COMMBRCE (SHRI have been discouraged by this circular ; P.A. SANGMA): (&) Statement.. ! is given below. Cd) if so. whether any step is being taken by GoverDltlcut to liberalise this; and (b) Yes, Sir.

(e) if so, the details thereof and it Dot, tbe reasons therefor t (c) Statement.II is given below. 263 Written Answers AUGUST 23, 1985 W,itten Ali,fWerS 264

Statement-I (Rs. croros)

1982-83 1983 .. 84 1984.85 (Prov.)

1. Total Exports of •STC 630.47 796.11 676.49 2. Total earning, Profit before Tax 62 60 59.83 62,09 Profit after Tax 24.51 28.83 28.55

3. T~tal expenditure Overheads 15~61 18.14 22.19 Interest Payment (Net) 1.10 (-) 6.84 26,37 Deprecjation/Provision! 2.00 3.79 1.70 Write-off 4. Investment in infrastruc­ 0.22 034 0.34 ture OD exports prQ Jects as on 31st March

S. Fund provided Nil Nt! Nil by Government

Statemcnt- n (Rs. Crores) (Provisional)

Year Direct . Indirect Total Percen tage of Export Export Export Direct to Indirect EltPorts

1 2 3 4 5 ------1982-83 221.04 409.43 630,47 35 1983 .. 84 384.98 411.13 796.11 48 1984·85 235.48 441.01 676.49 35

Proposal to set up Handloom Weavers (c) whether the existing infrastructure Financial Corporation is not satisfactory in this matter; and

4952. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: (d) whether Government prOpose to Will the Minister of SUPPLY A NO TEX­ encourage export of handloom product" TILES be pleased to stR-te : as a part of National Textile Policy to boost production employment and better (a) whether any proposal for setting returns to weavers ? up of Handloom Weavers Financial Cor­ poration to caver every District in the country is pending with his Ministry; THF MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX.. (b) if so, the details and the present TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR position thereof; SlNGH): (a) No, Sir. 2 65 Writt~1t Answers BHADRA 1,:1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 266

(b) and (~). Does not arise. "ower processors. Controlled cloth is stamped· with the final consume·r price, (d) Yes, Sir. The new Tex.tile PoIh:y whereas cheap cloth is litamped with seeks to .. enspre that inputs for exports maximum retail price. are provided at World prices, besidcr~ in­ tensifying efforts for product and market (c) The new Textile Policy lays erppba­ development, re ... orient marketing strategy sis on evo)\ing a system of marketing and and create capacities fur fash,Jon and de­ distribution which provides both consumer sign improvements satisfaction and protection As per this Policy the Government will take appro­ Promotion of Exports by Handloom priate measures in this difection. from Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh Indian Exports 4953. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: Will the Minlst)r of SUPPLY AND TEX­ 4954 SHRI CHJNTA MOHAN: Will TILES be pleased to state : the Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have set up any regular full-time organisation or a (a) the performance of India in exports watch dog Committee to protect consu­ so far as textiles are concerned; aud sumer interests SD far as textiles are con­ cerned; (b) the image of Indian exports and exporters in our potential and actual (b) whether Government are aware market? that retaiJ maximum prices are not on each metre of text~ and only wholesale THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE prices are being marked thereon; and MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (c) if so. tl1e corrective steps taken/pro­ SING H): (a) The pcrformam..-e of India pos~d to be taken in this regard 1 in Textile exports is showing a consistent improvem.ent. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MT'JISTRY OF SUPPLY AND (b) The image of Indian Textile exports TFXTJLES (SHRI CHANDRA SHE. and export~rs in the export marbets, by KHAR SINGH) : (a) While Government and lar~eJ is good. hav not set up any full time organisation or "watch dog Committee" to protect [Tram/a/ionl conc;umer interests, the functions of the Promotion of SCJST Employees in Textile Committee ;nt.r-alia include en~ !'lew Bank of India suring standard qualities of textiles both for internal marketing and export purpo~e" 4955. SHRI LAL RAM KEN: Will -establishing or adopting standard c;peclfi­ the Mmister of fiNANCE be pleased to cations for textIles, specification of type state ; of quality control of impection, providing for the inspection, examination and labo .. (a) whether there an~ certain po~t~ ratory testing of textiles etc. The Textile in New Bank of Jndtd wllll:h ate filled Committee has been directed to take only on tbe basis of seniority; necessary steps for providing greater con­ sumer protection. (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) Ex: factory price and the amount of excise duty are being stamped on each (c) whether there are different senio­ metre of cotton cloth except controJled rity lists prepared for Sclwdulcd CJ"tes/ cloth and cheap cloth oroduc~d by mill". Scheduled Tribes and geperal categdry as also that processed by independent employ~c's; and 267 Written Answer, AUGUST 23~ 1985 Written A'llswerl 268

(d) if sn. the criteria adOpted for THE MINiStER OF STATE OF THE affecting tbe promotion from these MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX .. seniorities '1 TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEK.HAR SINGH): (a, The new 'iextile Policy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN T ... E has been welcomed by and large organi­ MINJS1'RY OF FINANCE (SHR'· sations of powerlooms and handloom JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and weavers. The Dew Text policy preserves (b) New Bank of India has reported the unique role of handlooms and also that postings to the following assignments contains several guidelines to enable the are being made by it only on she basis handJooms to reaJise their full potential of seniority. These posts are not con$i­ a~ also to ensure high earnings for the dered as promotion posts. They, how­ handJooDl weaver. These guidelines relate, ever, carry Special allowances. to among others, the modernlsalion of improving the technology includmg smooth I. Subordinate stall cadre transfer of techno]bgy supply of raw "..,. matenals at reasonable prices through the Poem to Peon-cum-Cash Peon, PeOD­ operation of the NatioQul HandJoom Dl!ve­

oum ...iI] Collectort Jopment Corporation, production of Peon-cum-Daftri and Head Peon. mixed and I)ltnded fabnc~, and stnct enforcement of the provision of the new II. CleriCfd ~adre Reservation Act with a view to giving some direct benefits to weavers, Certain (i) Clerical Cadre to Special welfare schemes ]ike contributory. Thrift Assistant. Fund Scheme and Workshed cum-Housing scheme have already launched. Tho: (ii) Cashier to Head Cashier/Cas­ policy also pro" ides for transfer of con­ hier Incharge. troHed cloth in a pltlsed manger to the han~Uoom sector. Whereas the new (c) No, Sir. Textile Policy given spoctal protection to the handloom sector, is neutral between (d) Does not arisc ... the powerloom sector and the mil) sector. The policy also provides for harmonious groth of all sectors of the textile industry. [E11glish] Opposition to New Textile Policy by (b) Do not arise. Handloom Weavers and Powerloom Organ isa t ion Losses Suffered by Handloom Workers 4956. PROF. MADHU DANDA­ at 8biwand. due to Disturbances VATB ~ Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased state : 4957 SHRI BALASAHEB VJKHE PATIL: Will the MlDister of SUPPLY (a) whether it is a fact that several AND TEXTILES be pleased to state: organisations of powerloom and band- 100m weavers have strongly expressed (a) whether Government have made their opposition to the new Textile aoy assessment of the 10 sses suffered by Policy and have demanded that handloom workers at Bhiwandi due to the unequal competition between the disturbances; . organised sector and the decentraJised powerloom land handloom sectors should be ended to protect the decentralise (b) the number out of them who have sector; and been rehabilitated;

(b) if so, the steps proposed to be (c) the financial assistance given b, taken to provide protection to powerloom tbe Union Government to purchase loom and bandloom sectors? which have been destroyed; • 269 Written Aruwers BHADRA 1. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 27~

(d) the number of those who remain from eatolll ta High Court against the to be rehabiJated; and above order.

(e) the sleps being tak.cn by Govern­ . Financial Crisis in Textile Mills ment in this rcg':\rd 1 4959, SHRI SRI HARJ RAO : Will .. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of SUPPLY and TEXTILES M[NTSTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ be pleased to sta te : ~ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) Due, to disturbances at (a) whether Government are aware that Bhiwandi powerlooms were affected. some of the textile mills are facing of Government have not received any re- Bnanci. I crisis; . pOrts of hMldJoms being affected by these disturbances. (b) if so, tbe details of such mills; and (b) to (e). Do not arisc. (c) the measures contemplate.d by Go­ Alleged Unfair Trade Practices vernment to help s\4Ch mills out to lave Followed by Peerless General the 011118 as also the workers? Finance Corporation 'THE MINISTFR OF STATE OF THB 4958. SHRT MANIK REDDY: Will MINISTR Y OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ the Minister of FIN A NCE be pleased to TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR state: SINGH): (a) to (c), Industrial units are expl"cted to take up their financial pro­ (a) whether attention of Government blems with financing institutions. The has been dra\\n to the unfair trade prac­ Governrrent has also set up a group to go tices followed by PeerJes" General Finance 'oto the problems of cosed units to evolve Corporation by a consumer .protectlon a package of asc;btance tor UOIts which are organisatIon; and <.:onsidered potentially viable.

(b) if so, the details thereof and Introduction of OGL Imports Sch,eme corrective action taken in tha t regard ? 4960, SHRI N.VENKATA RATNAM: Wit] the Mmister of COMMERCE be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY; • OF FrNANCE (SHRI .TAN~RDHANA POOJARY) : (a) & (b). Presumably, the Hon'ble Member is }e. (n) whether Government introduced ferring to the Peerless Gene-ral Finance ~ copen general Iil:ence" on imports scheme and Investment ~ompany Limited, for certam Ilems, which do not require Calcutta, any licenc.-e to imrort;

Consumer Education and Research (b) if so, the purpose thereof and the Centre. Ahmedabad, has filed a petition items mentioned therein; and under section 36fb) of the MRTP Act, $ 1969 again'St M Is Peerless General (c) the total value of goods thus im. Finance and Investment Company Ltd, ported under OOL scheme f()f 1984.85' Calclltta, before the Monopolies ant1 Re­ strictive Trade Practices Commission, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE New Dolhi aJJeging unfair trade practices. ~tNISTRY OF COMMeRCe (SHRI P, A. SANGMA) : (a) Yes. Sir, The Commission ordered preliminary investigation under se.ctiQn 3~C of 1'vJRTP (h) To provide ea~y and qukkrr ac('c~s Act, 1969 in the matter. The company to impor t essential item for which there is reported to have obtained a stay older is DO indigenous production or mdig'!l)Ou$ 271 Written Answers AUGUST 23. 1985 Written Answ~r, 272 production is very small as compared to TILES (SHRI CHAN"DRA SHEKHAR the demand. The items allowed under SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Open General Licence are givon in Import & Ex:port Policy. 1985-88 (Vohlme-J) .. (b) and (c). The new ruling of the copy of which· IS available in the Parlia­ U.S. Government will not come into effect ment Library. during the grace period which w~ operable upto 13th September. 1985, and has now (c) Separate statistics for i.mport under been extended, at our intervention, for' OGL afe not maintained. another period of 30 days ending Septem­ ber, 30, 1985. Indian Handlooms in serious difficulties in USA Advisory Comm ittE'C in Handioom Industry 4961. SHRI JAGANNATH PATNA­ IK: Wi11 the MUllster of SUPPLY AND 4962. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAL­ TEXTILES be pJeased to state: . LICK: Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to state:

(a) whether G(\tr'~rnment's attention is (a) whether Government have set draw n to the news items in 'National LIP an AdVisory Committee to suggest H~ra'd' of S JlIne, 1985 staling that the reservation Qf articles exclusively for the decision of U. S Government to· gl\,t)' 90 handloom industry ; .ys arace period from May 3 1. 1 <) 8 5 under its earJi~r import norms for entry (b) if so, the details regarding its of Indian Handloom made-ups into U.S.A, composition. terms of reference; and has put Indian handlooms into serL)us difficulties; (c) the time by which its report is Jjkely to be submitted to Government '1 (b) whedJer it is a fact tbat the India handJoom made.. up consignments worth THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE rupees one hundred crores have been held MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ up recent}) by US Custodians as a result TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHI:.KHAR or the new US ruling that handJoom made­ SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. up involving us~ of machine for st ilching cannot be considered cent per cent hand- (b) The compo~itjon of the Committee 100m and therefore thr performance does and the terms of reference are given in not appears to be satisfactory; and the statement below.

(c) if so, the details thereof? (c) While no time limit has heen fixed by Government, it is hoped that THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tb~ committee will ~ubmit its recom~eD­ MINISTRY OF ~UPPLY AND TEX- datl\)OS before the end.. of this year •

Statement

Composition and terms 01 reference of the Adtl-isory Committee set up under ~'The Handlooms (Reservation 0/ Articles for Production) A.ct 1985"

1. Composition : 1. Development Commissioner (Handlooms) Chairman

2. Director, Indian Inst.itute of l!landloom Technology, Member Salem (Tamil Nadu) 3. Sbri Gautarn Vaghcia, Director (Coordination) Mcmber Weavers Service Ccntre. Bombay 273 Written Answers BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 274

4. Shri S.C. }aib Deputy Director, Weavers Service Member . Centre, Panipat S. Director, South India Textile Research Association Member (SITRA), Coimbatore 6. Prof. S.P. Seetharaman, I:ndian Institute of MaDaae .. Member ment, Ahmedabad 7. Secrotary, Central Silk Board,. Baogaiore Member 8. Secretary, Handloom Export Promotion Council, Member Madras 9. Executive Director, National Institute of .. Design, Member Ahmedabad

10. Managing Director, National Textile Corporation, Member New Delhi 1 t. Special Officer, Tamil Nadu i\Handloom Weavers Member Cooperative Society Ltd. (COOPLEX) Madr~s

1 2. Director of Handlooms, Government of Karnataka. Member Bangalore.

1 3. Director of Handlooms, Government of Uttar Member Pradesh. Kanpur

J 4. Director of HandJooms, Government of Assam, Member Dispur

I 5. Director of Handlooms. Government of Jammu & Membel' Kasllmir, Srinagar 1 6" Director of Handlooms & Textile Govt. of West Member Bengal, Calcutta J 7. Textile Commissioner, Bombay Member 18. Joint Secretary, ~partment of T~~(ilest New Delhi Member 19. Shri S,P. Thakur, Organismg Sectretary. Bhatti Member Weavers' Cooperative Society, Kulu, Himachal Pradesh .0.. Shri T R. Dewanger, Chairman, M.P. State Textile Member Corporation, Bhopal 21. Dr. Tbomas~ Cbairmain, Khadi & Village Industries Member CotnmissioD Bombay 22. Sb,:j )\ahamatull Ansari, Chairman, All Iadia Hand:' Member 100m Fabrics Marketing Cooperative Society, Bombay 23. Shri Ranga.oayakalu, Chainnan, Andhra Pradosh Member Handloom Wea.. Cooperative Society Ltd, Hydcrabad 24. Shri Idris Ansari, Blbal! Member 2'. Mia Helena Preltontupta," Ahmedabad Member %6. Dr. B,C. Mohanty. BhubaneSwar Member 27... Smt. Lotika Va_rdarajap, 13 A-B, PaneSar. Road, New Member' Delhi' 21. Ao Olticer of J)eveJopment"CQmmissioder for Uaod­ Member )00IIII Sccretal7 275 Written An~rs 'AUGUST 23, 1985 Written ~nsw~f' 276 ,,-

II. Terms of Reference Hindustan Lever Ltd. jn respect of purchase of beef tallow imported unautho. The Advisory Committee shall make risedly. . recommendations to the Central .Govern­ ment regarding the article .r· class of RehabIlitatioD Fund articles to be restttved for exclusive pro .. duction of handlooms. Tbe guidelines 4964, SHRI ANA"NTA PRASAD for makiug such recommendations listing SETHI: Will the Minister of SUPPLY such articles or class of articles shall be AND TEXTILES be pleased to state: as follows : - . (a) whether Government have" for. (a) the articles or· class of articles mulated the details of the scheme to which is being produced by hand­ create a Rehabilitation Fund for glvmg looms for mass consumptiQn ; relief to th: workers of the textile industry; (b) the Article or class of articles which is being produced tra.tio­ na'I1y by handlooms ; (b) if so, what are the details; and

(c) the level of employment Ukely to (c) when the scheme is proposed to start operating ? be gene~ated by th.e production of thc article of class of art ides referred to in class (a> or clause THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) exclusive by handlooms ; MJ"ISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (d) the production of interest of SINGH): (a) NOt Sir. persons engaged in the handloom industry and the need for the (b) Does not arise. continued maintenance of the industry ; and (c) Efforts are being .plade to start the scheme as soon as possible. (e) such other matters as the Advisory Committee may think Target Fixed for Powerlooms & Hand­ fit. looms in the Seventh Five }. ear PJan

Purchase or beef tallow by 4965. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND Mis. Hindustan Lever Limited TEXTILES be r'leased to state : 4963. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: ,. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be (a) whether Government have con. pleased to state : sidered the appropriate tal'gets in tbe Seventh Five Year Plan for powerlooms, (a) whether any action has been taken handlooms Bnd certain Dumber of metres against Mis. Hindustan Lever· Limited in for miJ1s; q respect of purohasing of beef tallow in an unauthorised manner and misutili­ (b) whether there ta . any possibility I( sing it in the manufacture of tqeir pro. in the hand loom sector to generate ad­ ducts; and ditional empJoymcnt; '(c) if so; the details rcsardiog its tb) if 50, the details thereof? protlress and. tho extent to wbtch it has helped in romoviog unemployment; ~nd THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (d) the p~nt strength of perSOQS P.A. SANGMI\): (a> and (b). Investi. State.wise employed aAd opportunities galions havo been taken up and show beinl croated fOf 'P"Tt.time as wen \\'$ ca use notices hlve been issued to M/ s. -on regular baab emploYlDQnt? > 277 Written Answers BHADR-l 1. 1901 (SAKA) . Written Answers 278

THE MINISTBR OF STATE OF THE (a) the number of Ipining mills in MINISTitV OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ the public sector in Uttar Pradesh, loca­ TILES (SHRI eHA NORA StJEKHAR tion.. wise indicating the capacity of each SINGH): (8). The 7th Plan Working mill; • Group on Textiles has recopnbended the (ollowing tarlets of production of cloth (b) the varieties of threads being for the terminal yCl\f of the 7th Plan manufactured in each of the said milJs i.e. 19$9.90 :- and the basis of its consumption; t. Milt and power loom 9900 Sectors M iJJion metres (C) whether tbe quality of stapJe being manufactured in tbe aferesaid mills 2. Handloom sectors, 4600 is very small: M HUon metres

The specific targets would be fhed after (d) if so, the quantity of staple being the discussions with the Minning Com- ,. manufactured an each mil~ and haw tbis mission ~rc compJeted. is being utilised; and

(b) The increased tarlet of produc­ (e) whether Government are consi. tion during the 7th Plan in the hand. dering aoy iQileme for getting maximum JOQm sector is est imated to generate quantity of staple manufactured by the additional employment to the tune of·' said mills in order to meet acute crisis neatly 2 J lakbs. of staple being faced by weavers in the State, jf '50, the time by which said (c) During the 6th Plan, the emp­ scheme will be implemented and if no loyment in the hadloom sector IS esti­ scheme has been prepared, the reasons mated to bave gone up by neatly 25 therefore 1 lakhs.

(d) State· wise figures are not main­ THE MIN1STER OF STATE OF THE tained. MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX .. TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR [Translafion1 SINGH) : (8) At present, in Uttar Location of Spinning Mills In U.P. Pradesh, apart from State Public sector units, there are five spinning units, under 4966. SHRt R.P. SUMAN: Will National Textile Corporatioo. The name the Minisfer of SUPPLY AND TEX­ of the unit, its location and the spinning TILES be pledsed to state: capacity in each case is as under:

Name of the Unit " Location Commissioned Capacity

BijU CattoD MUls, Hathras 2S664 'Ii

Sbrec Vikram Cot!OD MUla. LuckbOW 15296

Swadeshi Cotton Mills, Naipi 64620

Swadeahi Cotton Mills, Maunath Bbanjan 24248 .I, Raebareli,. Textiles Mills, Raebareli 10472

(b) Swadeshi COUon Mint, Naiai produce cott<1n yarn. The entire pro­ produces ,both cottaa yarn aDd staple duction of these spiniD, mill. is availabJe fibre yam. AU tho remainin. units for sale in the market. 279 Written AnsWtrs AUGUST 23, J985 Wrlttln "",wer, 28D

(c) and Cd). The current pattern of production in those. mWs is 88 follows :-

Count Group

%age of productiqD to total production

O-lO 11.20 21-30 31·40 41-60

Bijli Cotton MiJls 57,S 24.5 0.3 17.7

Vikram Cotton Mills 68.1 31.9 Swadesbi Cotton }Co,tton yarns 60.8 23.S 15.5 Mills, Naini Staple yarn 22.4 71.4 76:2 - Swadeshi Mills, 2S.4 74.6 Maunath Bhanjall. Raebareli Textile 50,8 49.2 Mills, Raehareli. -_------The total yarn productlbn by these units during 1984-85, was ~s follows:

Prod~ction (in lakh kgs,)

Bijli Cotton Mins 25.75 Vikram Cotton Mills J 4.03 Swadeshi Cotton Mi11s, Naini 12.26 (C()tt.on) 41.36 (Staple)

Swadesbi Mills. Maunath Bhanjan 14.58 Raebareli Textile Mills 5,29

This yarn is available for free sale in the m~rkct.

(e) No, Sir. There is no report scarcity of staple yarn.

[English] (c) the slops tak'OD so far.f)y Govern­ 1'~ ment to remove the bottlenecks by Raw Materials for Habra Textile ensuring raw materials? • Prod-.ction Udit THE MINISTER OF STATB OF THE 4967. SHRI R.P. DAS: Will the M1NISTRY OF SU PPLY AND TEX­ Minister of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES TILES. (SHRl CHt\,NDRA SHEKHAR be pleased tei state : S[NOH): {a) Yes, Sir. ( b) The' production value of .this (a) whether Government arc awar& Centfe du.ri,n.&~ 1 ~~4~8.s. w~ Rs. 16,S6 that the Habra Textile production unit Jakhs. During the first quarter of of thQ Robabilitation Industries Corpo. current flqaDFia~l year '.. NoductioD r~tion is now in bad shapo for waot of value was of the order of R_It 55.700J.,... raw, mat~rjal.; (c;) Steps are beiDI taka to eDlUre adequate- .Jupply of raw .mal.rial to the (b) if 10, the details thereo!~ and q,p,rc. 281 Written A.nswer. BHADRA I~ 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 282 .. Memoralld~QI ~eprd.ng Sale or sheeting cloth produced by Ram­ Gr"y Clofb Below the I,JrevalJlng l'0oria Cotton Mills and Bangasr i RAtes Cotton Mills were so14 at pnces much lower than the prices pte­ 4968 SHRI H N NANJE GOWDA ~ vailins in the market du~ng wJU . the Ministe·r· ·or SUPPLY AND March-Apiit 1985, thus adding TEXTILES be pJeased to state : . loss ot a few I akhs of rupees to NTC. (a) wbether t\ memorandum of com­ plaints was r~ntly submitted to him by (fI) During J 982-83/1983-84, some the West Beogal Textile Dealers Associa­ quantum of non -controlled cloth tion agaioc;t managem~Qt of the National produced by mills under NTC Textile Corporation (WBABO) Ltd., (WaABO) was routed to Con- Calcutta complainios inter-alia regard- sumer~ COrlperalive SOCieties· 109 sale of a huge quantity of • tllrey cloth' through NCCF on credit and the below the prevailing rates in the market; ol,1tstanding stands at a figure of Rs. 9S lakhs, which is unreaJis. (b) the other complaints mentioned abJe. It wa~ further complained. therein and the facts thereof; and t hat not a smgle metre of cloth found its way. to members of tbe so~jeties and lots were dumped (c) the action proposed to taken be in Calcutta marka, 'at prices agains-t the management or tbose found lower than thos~ of NTC. guilty in creating losse, for the Cor­ poration ? (hI) Commission payable to the mem­ ber a~ents of Eastern India THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Govt. UndertaJring Textile Mills MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ Dealers ASSOCIation were alleged­ TILES (SHRf CHANDRA SHEKHAR ly stoppt!d by NTC (WBABO) S[NGH): (3) Such a memorandum or Ltd. complaint dat"d 30-4-8S was received from the Bastern India GDvernment (iv) Alleged illegal aod unauthorised U~ertaking Textile Mills Agents & appomtment of over 400 em­ Dealers Association. Calculta complaining ployees an the Marketing Dlvi­ Inler alia sale of a huge quantity of 'grey sioo of NTC (WBABO) Ltd. cloth' below the prevailing rates in the l1larket. (V) There has been deterioratIon in the worklOg of NTC (WBABO) (b, and (c). A statement "howlOg tlle in spi-te of massive modernasation other main complaints, the iacts thereof programme \\-orlh about Rs. 32 and -tbe action taken thercoot is given crol'bs undertaken by the subsi­ ~Iow. diary corporatloo. The facts relufing to these complaints Stlltemeat t and the action taken by the Govt. NTC on these complalQts.are all under: (b) &. (c).. The main complaints mef,ftioned in the Memorandum are 8S (I) Sale of uncalendered grey cloth below • was 4tone throuah Ageots and also directly to different merchants (i) The present management of NTe durJOg the months of March-April, (WBABO) is moving towards ter. 1985, as J)er the procedure. mination of a· A.gencies tactfully The rates offe~ b~ ltoe agents 1 ' ia order to apPolDt agents of In ;.,ostr CQtI r ~re III.&JCh lo,,'cr Management's choice disregarding than the ratC$, at which thi$ was the bonest business traosactions so~d directly a~d hen~ NTC has of the existing agents. In view found this complaint, insub. of this, sale 1)' uncalendered grc;' I~~~tiated. " 283 Written Answer" AOOUST 2B, 1"$ . Wrlll,n Anlwerl 284

(ii) An jnqui~y was conducted into Tbree·officers of ttle subsidiary cor­ the complaint that durio, the pe­ poration coonect.;d with the above riod between 10th Janua", 1'983 commercia) tUlnsactions ",ere put aod 13th February, 1984, DOD.. under suspension by (he subsidiary'

controlJed cloth worth Rs. 71.31 corporation .n July t 1985 pending lakhs was despatched by the final enquiry in the matter. . mills under NTC (\\'BABO), to MIS. Adarsh Bazar Wholesale (iii) The asents who were sold the Consumer Store, Patoa, without goods wortb Rs. 76, lakhs Bt a formal orders .. 1td tbe bills 'Ycre discount·of 10.2S'X} on the con­ lying unpaid. ditio~ that the goods would be lifted .w ilhin 2 months against As a result of the above en­ payments, failed to adhere to' the quiries, levera) procedural lapses schedule of payments committed were revealed in tbe despatch of at the time of fiDGhsation of sale non-controlled cloth to MIS. of goods. Further, they did not Adar.lh Bazar Wholesale & Re­ lift entire quantity of cloth and tail Comumers Cooperath e Stores insisted on hfting higher proROr ... LUf •• Platna a constituent of Na­ tion of goods from fresh produc... tion.1 C0-operative Consumers tion, than t,he proportion agreed Federation, without formal deli­ upon mutually. In view of this, vv,,¥ jO$tructions from the NCCF. tbey were not aJJowed com­ mission. The Adarsh Bazar WhoJesate & Retail Consumers Cooperative (iv) A complaint was received regard~ Store~ Ltd., Patna have confirm­ ing mass Ilcrultrnent by the ed having received goods worth Board of Directors of the NTC ahout Rs. 80 lakhs from NTC CWBABO) Ltd.. Calcutta during (WBABO) Ltd., Calcutta between the period July, 1984 10 Novem­ January. 1983 and February. ber, 1984. The Management 1984. and on their behalf NTC trainees who were appointed have (WBABO) have approached NCCF since been "disengaged". Two to accept the ubove liability. NTC officers, wHo were found involved (WBABO) has been instructed to in thIS al"poiQtment,· have been ensure that the matter of outstand­ placed under sNspension and En­ ing dues from NCCF is taken quiry and investigation is' pro­ up jrnmodiatety and all payments ceeding •. realised without any further delay. A committee consistmg of three .(v) So (ar an amount of Rs. 3 J .44 officials from National Coopera­ crores has been s~nt on moderni­ tive Consummer Federation aation of mills under "'NTC (NCCF) and two from NTC. . (WBABO) Ltd., Calcutta till (WBABO) has been formed to 31-3-1985. The gains of moder­ scrutinise a pebd ing issues regard. nisation' in productivity. utlhsa­ iog the said supply of nOD. tion aDd production value are as controlled cJbth. under: - 1975-76 1982-83 '" feb. 1985 • SplDnina .utilisation (%'J 63.1 66.1 62.7 Weavina utilisation (%) 48.2 '0.9 '62.7 Spjnning pr~jvit)' (40' eon_nioa) 47.7 54.9' 59.2 WUtiihg productivity (LPI) ~ J 92.0 220.0 228.0 A'ierage mQnthly produc;tiQn value (aationali.. ,d . mills) (Rs. in crotes) 1.12 3.89 28 S Written Auwe" BHAORA '1, 1907 (SAlCA)• Written An.rwen 286

[Translation] bave increased considerably; Rise in Prices or Raw Jute for Hoarding (c) if so, whether Government have by Jute Mill Owners _ taken appropriate action against these 4-969. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ profiteering jute mill owners; ALI KHAN: Will the Minister of (d) if so, the det,~18 thereof; and SUPPLY AND TEXTILES be pleased to state : (e) jf oot, the reasons therefor 1

(a) the State. wise production of raw THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE jute in lakhs of bales, during 1984 and MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ 1985; TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) The e~timated State-wise (b) whether jute mill owners ,have production or raw jute and roest \ during hoarded sufficient stock by purchasing raw 1983.84 and 1984.85 jute seasons is as jute as a result of which price of raw jute under: ' (In lakh bales of 180 kgs. each)

State '1983.84 1984.85 ------______--L- __ _ ), West Bengal 41,11 36.20. 2. Bihar 9.13 11.4S 3 Assam 9.05 9,27

4. Orissa 5,20 S~4C; S. U. p. 0.81 1.78 6. Andhra Pradesh 5.7S S.74 7. Meghalaya • 0.64 'U.91

8. Tripllra 6.80 I.O~ 9, Other States ....,._---1.65 1.60 Total 14.14 . 73,42

(b) to (e). The holding of stocks of TEXTILES be pleased to state: raw jute by the jute mills were regulaled under Jute (Licensing & Control1 Order, (a) the number of textile mills at - 1961, promulgated by Jute Commissioner. prescot working in the city of Bombay; during the period when prices or raw jute rules high. A deboardm8 operation (b) the number of textile mills that was also conducted during the tlfbnths of are wbrking in the city of Bombay.in tho June & July 1985 to unearth any excels year 1960, jute Iyjpg with mills aDd traden. The . (C) tb,e number of clo.ed milts started prices of raw jute have since come dowa functioning by Government of Mabarast\· substantially. tra with the financial assistancc from tho (Enllilh] Union Government; T-extUe MUis .. Bomba, (d) whether re·started mills reinstalled all their employees who were on their J 4970. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: pay.roIl 0&1 tbe date of their closure; Will' tbe Mjnister of SUPP.LY AND 'Dd 287 Written Answer! AuduST 23, 1985 Written Answ,,, 288'

(e) the break"up of such empfo:yees in THE MINISTER OF STATS OF THE each such mill ? MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA .:,HEKHAR SINGH): (a) If any textile mills in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE any part of the country close down tbey MINISTRY 'OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ would do $0 On account of their intrinsic TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR Jack of vjabiJity and not in vjew of the SINGH): (a) According to (he fatest new textile, Policy. It is obvious tbat available information S 4 cotton textile loss making units cannot run perpetually. mills are working in the City of Bombay. The measures tha t Govt. proposes to ta~e under the new Textile Policy for the (b) 62 Cotton Textile Mills were benefit o.f workers in such inevitable workinl in the City of Bombay as on circumstances have been enunciated in January J.., 1 960. the policy, which has already been laid on the Table of the House

\ (c) The M!iharashtra State Textile (b) Yes, Sir. Corporation has informed that no mill has been re-stal ted by the Government of (c) According to available information, Maharashrra with finanCial assislance these cases were not followed up by the from the union Govt. parties to the point that a decision could be laken.

(d) and .(e). Do not ahse. Purchase of Raw Jute by J.e.l.

Empio)lDent to ~etrenched Fmplo)ees 4972. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA : of CoHon Mills in Hombay Will the Minister of SUPPLIES AND 1 EXTILES be pleased to state :

4971. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAl: (a) the volume of marketable law Will the rv imster of SUPPLY AND TEX. jute avaible in the mal ket and the VOlume TILES be pleased to slate: percent of I aw jute dlf~ctJy purchased b; Jute Corpordtion of india during J 982 to 1984 )'eur-wise. State-Wise ciDd the prices (a) the steps Go\'ernrnent propose to per qUlIltal year-wise and State. wIse; and fake to give employment to cotton mill workers from Bombay. whict: are likely (b) the prices fixed by Agricultural to be c1oc;ed an vitw of the new textile Costs and Prices Commission for the policy (feclared by Government; curren t year ?

(b) whether Government ate aware THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE that a( one stage the mill-owners of MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX. Bombay had expressed willingness to shift TILES (SHRl CHANDRA SHEKHAR their mills to backward areas of Mahar­ SINGH): (a) A statement is BiveD !{shtta. provided they were given permis­ below. ,. sion to dispose of hu~e plots of land occupied by their mills In the city of (b) The minimum statutory price fot Bombay; and W.. ' Otade of raw jute in Assam ilas been fixed at Rs. 2151_ per quintal f6r tbe current jute session J 985.86 OD tbe (c} \\hether Government of Mah:t. basis of the recommendations ot the rash.ra had turned down their reques' to Agricultural Prieel Commiss1on. Prices pul down t het incidence of laG.d v~h_ in for otber varietits and grade ~ have been Bombav w)'N¢h had reached at Jbe hililest fi.ed keeping in view the normal markc t rate in India? ' differential. 289 Written Mswers' BHADRA 1~, 1907 (SAK..4) Written AnsweN 29-0

Statement

, t The total estimated pro~uction _'raw jute in the country, the quantity and percentage of raw jute purchased and the prices paid by Jute Corporation or India during the jute seasons 1982-8~ to 19-84.85. year-Wise and Slate-wise are as under:- *' State Production' Procurement Col (3) Procuremen t price ('000 Bls.) by Jel. as % paid by Jel. ('OOO Bls.) of ------Col (2) Variety Range (Rs.jQtJ.)

1· 2 3 4. 5 6

1982-83

West Bengal 3885.2 622.8 16.0 TD-5 194.50/229.50 Assam 1006.2 130.9 13.0 W .. S 175.00/185.00

~ Bihar 872,7 69.3 7.9 W-5 184.50/195.00

Orissa 484.0 0.7 0.2 W-s 188.50/188.50 Tripura 97.7 34.0 34.8 Mestabot 159.50/159.50 A.P. 512.9 Bimlibot 165.50 U.P. 89.6 0.1 0.1 W.5 190.00/190.00 MeghaJaya 63.9, 1.7 2.7 Mestabot 154.00/154.00 Other States 159.0 ------...,_------.------.-... All Indja Total 717 J.2 859:5 12.0

1983·84

Vt7 est Bengal 4110.9 654.0 15.9 TD-S 255.00/325.00 Assar.n 905.4 103,9 11.5 W.. 5 24S.00/28S.00 Bihar 912.5 53.5 5.9 W.. 5 245.00/290.00 Orissa 520.0 0.7 0.1 W.5 225.00/310.00 Tripura 79.9 24.1 jO.2 Mestabot 260.0Q/295.00 A.P. 575.4 Bilmlibot 153,00 U.p. 81.4 w-s 200.00 Mcgbalaya 64.4 2.9, 4.5 Mestabot 225.00/255,00 i Other States 164.5

--__.----...... _...._----.-.--...... _...._.- ...... ~---__.,---_...... Ael India Total 7414.4 83'9.1 11.3 292 291 Written AnSWtr3 Wrtltin .Answet'

6 1 2 3 4 5 ------,------. 19&4.85

West Denial 3620.0 683.2 18,9 TD-5 612.50/980.00 Assam 927.0 155.2 16.9 W·S S7S.00[920.00 Bihar 1145.0 98.8 8.7 W-S 600.00/910.00 ._ Orissa 546.0 Z3.8 44 W·S 595,00/965.00 Tripu,ra 101.0 28.3 28.0 Mestabot 400.00/800.00 A.P. 574.0 15.6 2.~ Bimlibot S 70.00/800.00 U.P. 17B.O 4.1 2.3 W-5 BOO.00/800 00 MesbaJaya 91.0 6.4 7.0 Mestabot 650.0(1/820,00 Other States 160.0

All India Total ------7342.0 101 S.4 13,9

Participation o( Labour In the management Rich ~aUons not to write off Debt~ of Public Sector andertak ing5 on Debtor Nations

4974. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: 4973. SHRI V. S. RAO: Will the Will the MinIster of Fl N \NCE be pleased Minister of FINANCE be pleased to H> state: state : (8) whether he has seen the news item (a) whether Government propose for in 'Indian Express' of August I, 1985, to participation of labour in the management the effect that U. S. Central Bank Chief of public sector undertakings; and has warned debtor nations that they should not expect remissions of debts they obtained from commercial sources in rich (b) if so, the d~tails thereof and the countries; date by which tbis will come into force? (b) if so, reaction of Government " THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE thereto; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (ll) and (c) whether he fears that the "Debt (b). The Government notified a scheme Bomb" may brust on the face of develop­ or Workers' Participation in Management ins nations ? in December 1 983. A copy of the scheme is laid on the table of the House, [Placed T.HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in library. See. No. LT-1437j8S]. Steps MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRJ are being taken to implement the scheme JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, as early as" possible. A Tripartite Com ... S.ir. ftlittee consisting of the representatives of fbe Government, the empJoyers and the (b) and (c). WhHe some developing trade unions has been ~et up to monitor couDtrie~ are experiencing difficulties aris. the progress of the implementation of tbe ing from the dE-bt service burden in the scheme. 42 public sector enterprises have recent years. India is not one of tholie. already adopted the scheme, while another The Government's poJicy in regard to 13 have partially adopted it. foreign borrowings takes into account the 293 .Wrlttell Anawers BHADRA 1, 1907 (SMA)' Written Answers 294. ,jI( paramount need" to maintain tbe external tOMCI. The Worktng Group on Agricul. debt service situation within limits of pr~ tural Credit and cooperation has assessed dent debt management. a.' requirement of Rs. 8695 crores for short-term credit for sea,onal.. agricultural operations. inrluding seeds and fertilizers, The Government bas been urging in. in the year 1989.90. No specitfc oontrj. v.uious fora that the approac:h to medium· bution has been fixed for NABARD. term solution of the debt problem should be based on r~cognition of shared respon. sibility beetwten debtor countries, creditor cc) and (d). The credit limits sanctioQ­ countrieCl~ international firtancial Institutions ed by NABARD include ferlilizers distri­ and private creditors. buted to indlvldual agricultUrists borrower member of primary societIes as part of the kind component of the crop loaD. For [Trans/ation] procurement, stocking and disttlbuti JD of Loans to Consumers by NABARTl fertilizers by State Cooperative Marketing Federations necessary financial artange­ 4975. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: Will ment s are made through a consortium of the Mmister .of FINANCE be pleased to comrnerclaljc6operative banks. Whenever state : such Federations are unable to secure the necessary credit from commercial banks (a) whether with a view to raising the N ABARD provjdes refinance facilities to the fertilizer demand ~of the consumer to the concerned State Co· operative Bank 40 lakh tonnes at the end of Seventh Five according to their elIgibIlIty for financiog Year Plan in 1989-90, various banking such operatIOns, institutIons including commercial and co.. operatives and NatlOn':il Bank for Agncul-. Ie) Data reportmg system does not tural and Rural Development will provide YIeld information in tbe manner as desired. a loan of Ks. 4{)O crores; However, the credit limits sanctioned (or financmg seasonal agracultural operations (b) whether contribution of the Na .. by NABARD to State Cooperative Banks (ional Bank. for Agricultural and Rurdl durmg the Jast three years have been as Development wIll be 40 per cent under under :- this· scheme; Year Amount sane.. (c) whether this Joan will be in additic:m tioned (Rs. to the short-term loan which the in crorcs) 'NABARD' has already s\lDctioned= 198~ .. 83 1120 (d) if so, the details in respect of the 1983-84 1245 above loan and category of con'sumers that wiIJ be benefited by this scheme; 1984-85 1233 and [English] (e) the Dumber of peFSons State-wise and Union Territory-wise to' whom the Loss suf!erred by Minerals and Metals Joan was given by the banks' organisation Trading Corporatioa an.d NABARD during 1983.84 indicating amount of loan given ? 4976. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI­ GR'AHI : Will the Minister of COM­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB ~ERCE be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SltR1 JA­ NARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). (a) whether the Minerals and Metal The fertilizer conSWllption taraet tentative. 'Tradins Corporation (MMTC) suffered • Iy fixed for the terminal year of the huge loss in foreign oxchange towards Sevcoth PJan, i. o. 1989-90, is J 40 Jakh demufrase chsl'Ies duria, 1984.85 ; . 295 Written Answer9 . AUGUSr 2~, 19a5

(b) if so, the extent of loss (iii) Persuadin"g port 8utho,rity to allot Buffered; any available ber~h other than tb \ berth earmarked for (he com· (c) the quantum of loss suffered by mod ities concerned ; and M~Tt dur-ing the last three years, year­ t wise, on tbis account; \ (iv) Port authorities ha.ve been asked to improve the workin~ of mech­ (d) the r~sons therefor; 8!,d anical or handling syc;tem.

(e) the measures proposed to be PubUc sector undertakings in taken by Government to improve the per­ Tamil Nadu formance of MMTC so as to minimise such losses ? 4977. SHRl N. DENNIS: Wilt the Minister of FlNANCE be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STAtE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. SANGMA): (a) and (b). MMTC (a) the details of the Tamil .Nac1u suffered a Joss of Rs. 150,42 lakhs in State owned public undertakin~s to which foreign exchange towards demurrage finanCial aS~lstance have so far been cbarges during 1984-85. extended by Union Government; (c) The year-wise of quantum of loss suffered by MMTC during the Ja()t (b) the step~ taken to get Union 3 years on aa:count of demurrage ch~rges Government nomif"lees incL (led in these is as foHows : Tamil Nadu State-O'hllc<1 r hIic under­ takingo;; : and

Years Loss in (c) if not, the reasons then;of ? Rs.lakhs

1982-83 " 36,42 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1983-84 91.41 MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1984.85 150,42 JANARD'HANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). The information is being collected be th~ (d). The payment of demurage at and will laid on the Table of vatious ports was mainly due to the House. factors like congestion, especially at Bombay Port, deJay in belting of vessels, [Tramlationl" bunching of vessels, lower rate of dis­ charge, power break downs, failure of Compensation of Worke~ of Jayka mechanical ore handling plants, strike by Nag9f Aluminium Factory dock workers and other agencies at some ports. '4978. SHRI SHIV PRASAD SAHU : WiIJ the Mtnister of STEEL, MINES AND (e) The following are the measures COAL -be pleased to state : proposed by MMTC to mjnimise demur. rage charges ;. (a) whether a provision has been made under section 17 of the Aluminium (i) where single berth has been Corporation Df India, Limited Acquisition earmarked and capacity for raw and Transfer of Aluminium Undertaking malerial discharged is limited, Act, ) 984 to pay t11e scllary, bonus, the vessels might be divert~d to gtatuity and other compensation with other parts, if possible ; interests for the periOd from 1974 to 1984 to" the workers of J'clyka Nagar (ii) resorting to discharge of material Aluminium Factorv which had been lying in the midstream until is be~th cJosed 8ioce 1974 and was taken over-by.... made available to a ship : Government in 1.978 ; , , , 297 Wr((ten Answers BHAD~A 1", 1907' (SAKA) Written Answers 298

(b) whether a Compensa1io~, Com­ claims are examjned, a notice under missionet was nppointe ~ Undel'takinll. have been assigned Pr i )ri!y b~cn d.:laycJ ; Category-I. (d) _if so. the fll ~tors which delayed (b) Yes, Sit', The Commissioner of the ~c;tabli~hment of ~ ... me:1l p1. ..lnt Payments £las been appointed by the Government under Sec. 1 4 of th~ said (e) the' steps taken 1O expedite it; Act and the assumed charge 'on and 14-1.1985. Thereafter, the Govt. of Iqpia notified 1.3.1985 as tbe specified (f) the year by which the above PLC date within 3() dilYS of which date the Cement Plant is expected to start conl­ datms were to be submitted to the mercia I production? Commissioner of Payments under Sec. 17 .' of the said Act. About 2903 claims have , THE MINIC;;TER OF ST" TE IN 1 HE been received under various categories. MINtS fR Y OF COJ\i MERCE (~~IHH After the claim'i are t '..~ceived, th~!se are P,A. SANGM,\) : (~) r'll1d ~b). Tiw required to be examined first, The Projects and Equipment Corpor8t~0r'1 of examination of the claims has been Indi~1 Limited (prC) in :1~sociRtio4lt with taken up and is in progress. After- tlie ~/s. Walchaodnajar Indu~trit's Limited 299 Written Answer.. AUQUST 23, 1985 Written dnawe,s 300

(WIL) is settillS ut) a cement project in and the incentives that would &0 offered Indonesia. The contract value ia Rs. S S •7 to the foreign inY~s*oJ'S; and crores.

''\0 (e) what would be the policy 'about (c) and (d). The completion of the allowing repatricltion of profits by the project has, i"ter~alia, been delayed on fore;sn firms? account of the folJowing factors :- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB _ (i) Delay in finalising plant layouts MINlSTR Y OF FINANCE (SHRI and detailed specifications by the JANARDHANA POOJAR Y): (aj to client; (C)~ . Government's pohcy regardull foreign collaboration continues to be selec­ tive and this also has been reiterated in (ii) Under estimation (i)f the quantum the Technology Policy an­ of design aod engineering; 'Stat~ment nounced in Jenuary, 1 ~83, .. Foreign (iii) Insistence by the client that every . Collaborations are normally considered in pos~ible engineering details should areas where indigenous technology is not be cleared by the consultants avaiiabJe and If the lertns are reasonable. appoin~ by the client ; and (d) In some cases, fore.tgn coUabora­ (iv) Delavs in suppl ies 'by some ven­ tion is permitted along with equity invest. dors and replacement of certain . mente This is "general upto the level of critical items which were supplied 40% of the total equity. 10 case!;' where vendors, outright purchase of technology only is approved, the foreign collaborator is paid (e) The project is being regularly a lumpsum know-how fce and royalty on mOnitored at various leve Is including in the value of the domestic production for inter-Rlinisteria 1 meetlllgs. with a view the period of the col JaboratJOn to identify critical shortfalls and take agrc:ement. necessary remedldl measures. (e) As per Government policy, once a (f) The cement pJant is expected to foreign investment IS approved, nO restric .. be tlnat1y commi~sioned and h:lnded over tions arc placed on the remittance abroad to the client by March, 1986. of profits and dividends (subject of course, to payment of Jndian taxes) by the ... Policy to Invite Foreign lnvestment~ foreign investor..

4980 SHRt ANANTA PRASAD Foreign Companies Having Interest fa SETHI: Will the Mmister of FINANCB Inidan Companies and Forc.gn Exchange be pleased to state : Drained Out 4981. SHRI KAMALA PRASAD (a) whether it is a fact that Govern­ SINOH : Will the Minister of FINANCE ment have decided to invite, foreign be pleased to state : investments in ,be country; (a) whether it is a fact that there are (b) if so, the details regarding the still foreign companies havlDg interest in policy of Government so far as the ques­ the Indian companies and lot of the fbr­ tion of invitiDa foreign investments in the foreign exchange is drained out as the country _is concerned; country;

(c) Ute details regarding the specific ( b) if so, the details thereof and how priority areas io which such investments much foreisn excnaolc went out of the are sougbt; couotry durina the last 12 months; (C) the steps proposed to be takeo (d).' tbe terms and conditions under to Indianise then wholly . and completely; whicb such invcstments would be made and !O'I Writl6n Anl...,e'$ BH~DRA 1,1907 (S. .fKA) Written Answers 30.l

(d)' ir nat, the reason, th~reo1? (b) The information is not readily availablc. THE MINIS rElt OF' STATE IN 'rHE MINISTRY OF PINA"CE, (SHR( .. (C) Estimated prOduction of Nylon JANARDHANA POOJAJ;tY) : (a) and .Fifament Yarn Pabric for the last rew years (b>. A Jist of FERA Companies ()~tating are as under :- in India. was furnished in reply to Un .. starr~d Qu«,stion No. 704 answered on 198t 349.30 M.M. 26th July, 1985. Remittances made by stich FERA co·mpanies for the pefiod 1982 359.70 M.M. 1981.82, 1982·83 was fu~J11sbed in the ImplementatIon I~erort in respect of 1983 388.65 M.M, Unstarred Question No. 4709 answered on 24th August. 1984. Simi,r informa­ 1984 456.1 S M.M. tien for the Jater period is not readily available at present. 1985 (Jan. to June) 238.65 M.M.

(c) and (d). Government do not pro­ pose to insIst upon compulsory and totd.1 (d) The new Textile Policy provides for fibre flexibility whereby production can drlution of' foreign eq.uity in lIuch com­ panies. The level of foreign holding in rise to meet demand of this fabric also wherever necessary. such FERA campanies was decided In ferms of guidelines issued under Section 29 of Foreign Exchange Regulation Act, Development of Rennet from Fungus , 1973, copies of which were laid on the Table of the Lok Sabh~. 4983. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will the Mmister of COM .. Shortage of Nylon Fabric MEReE be pleased to state:

4982. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA WA: ' (a) whether there is a total ban on "'tlte . SHRIMOHANBHAIPATEL: import of animal rennet in our country; Will the Minister of SUPPLY AND (b) if so, the reason thereof; TEXTILES be pleased to ~tate :

(a) whether it is a fact that there is a (c) whether Central Agricultural Re­ shortage of nylon fabric and due to that search Institute or any other institute has many other industries which are dependent been asked to dlvelop a nOD-animal rennet on nylon fabric are facing great difficulty of fungal origin, and to get nylon fabric as per their demand; (d) jf so, progress made so far? (b) the quantity of nylon fabric being imported every year and the foreign ex- . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE change involved; 11'. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI p. A. SANGMA): (a) Yes Sir. (c) the quantity of nylon fabric pro­ duced in the coootry every year; and (b) The import of animal rennet has banned in public interest. (d) the steps being taken to establish been more units to manufactute nylon fabric in the country to meet the demand? (c) and (d). Researcb, work has be~n , carried out on the deveJopment of non .. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE animal rennet of fungal origin at Central MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ Food Technolol!ical Research Instituft". TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKRAR Mysore. The findings bave been published SkNOH) : (a) The. Government bas not in 'Journal of Food Science &Technology', received aoy· reports of any shortage of giving an account of production of funsa! nylon fabric. rennet substitute for ch~se making. AUGUST 23., 1985 St. correcting reply to USQ 304 693 dt. 26.7.85 Crisis in Air Conditioner and Rerrigerator (b) Does not arise. Manufacturing Units • I

4984. PROP. RAMKRISHNA MORE: ( c) Under the Coir Industry Act 1953,­ Win the Mmister of FINANCE be the Coir BoaJ d has inter· qUa been entrust. pleased ts state : ed with export promotion fUDctions for COif Items. (a) whet~er It is a fact that small scale units manufacturmg air conditioners and Declaration of Hyderabad as a refrigerator~ are on the vente of closure because of discrimination in the matter of Free Port excise duty exemptiod limit; and 4986. SaRI V. TULSIRAM: Wjll . (b) if sc" the steps Government propoCi ~ the MlOlste(' of COMMERCL be pJeas~d to take to hel" these small units who ar~ to slate: facing acute crisis ? ( a) lotal number of (ree airports in the THE M[NISTER OF STATE IN 'f.HE· countty; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and {b '. (b) whether Hyderabad airport if, also. Different exemption ~chl.:mes hilvc been a.free port; prescribed for the small scal" sector In different areas of industrial prod JctlOn taking into account variou~ factors, such (c) if not, whe!her there is any proposal as, the applicable rate of excise dllty ~ the under the consideration of the Govern­ quantam of exemplion avt\ilable for the ment to declare Hyderabad as a free unit, position of the org1nised sector. etc, port; and Tae scheme of excise duty reJief appJicdblt! to small seale unit~ m.mufacturing refriJe. (d) if so, when? rating and air·condltionmg appli,.lOces and parto; thereof cadnot be regarded as disc 1- THE MINISTER O~ STATE IN THE minatory In nature, There are no reports MfNISTRY OF COMMRItCE (SARI of closure of smdll sCclle unl!S ITIdnufd._tur­ p. A. SANGMA): (a) There are no ing refrigerator.. and aircondltioners as a such airport~ J n the country. result of the pre~ent s~heme of excise duty concession to the .c;m.lll c;caie Units There is no proposal at pres~f1t to revise (b) to (d). Do not arise. the existing scheme,

Propo~al to s{ t up Coir Fxport Pro· mot ion Council Statement correcting Answer ro Un­ Rtarred Question N«1. 693 dated 4985. SHRI T. BASHEBR: Wul the 26-7-1985 Re : Allotment of Mimster of SUPPLY AND TEXTILES QUOtas and Licence& for Garments transferred to Apparel Export Pro. be pleased to state: ". motfon Council I (a) whether there is any proposal tc set up Coir Export Promotion Council; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE M1NISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ (0) if so, the details thereof; and TILES. (SHRI CHANDRA SH8KHAR SINGH): A typographical error in the (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? figure indicated in reply' to part {f) of the Question (Annexu,.e cA' placed in Library. THE MINISTER OF STATE PF THE See No. LT 1438/85]. has been noticed. MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ The correct reply to the Lok Sabha Un­ TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR starre~ QUestion No. 693 is as liven at SINGH) : (a) No Sir. Annexuro 'B' .. 30S St. correcting reply BHADRA 1J 1907 (SAKA) USQ 693 dl. 26.7.85 306

ANNEXURE-'S' (f) According to available informatiol", as on 31.12-1984 AEPC had collebred a Allotment of Quotas and Licences sum of Rs.3,12,22,513/- on accotmt for Garments Transferred. teJ Apparel of forfeiture of EMD8/BGs. Export Promotion Council (g) The amount is to be kept sepa­ 693, SHRI G. M BANATWALLA: rately by AEPC to be spent on export Will the Mjnister of SUPPLY AND T.BX­ promotion after obtaining Government's TILES be pleased to state: approval.

(a' whether the work re1atin~ to allotment of quotas and licences for gar­ ments have bren transferred from the 12.00 Un. office of the Chief Controller of Imports and Exports to the Apparel Elport PROF, MADHU DANDAVATB Promotion Council, New DelhI; (Rajapur): I want to raise a very serious matter, Please listen to our submission (b) If so, since when; because that is the submission of the M Ps, On 21 st of this month, 17 MPs went to attend tbe funeral of late Longo­ (c) t~e reasons for the aforesaid wal. tram~fe~ of the work and, power; (Interruptions) (d) whether Government appreciate~ the inadvisable nature of such transfer to MR. SPEAKER: My information is a private agencymand if so, whether the different. power will be reassumed by the Chief Controller; PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You ba-,.e misunderstood it. 'the p~s bad (C) whether the said Apparel Export commented on that. They say that tbe Promotion Council (AEPC) also levies funeral was conspicuous by the absenco of fioes and penalties on garment exporters; MPg because of the discriminatiOn shown by the Government and the ruling party (f) if so, the amount so collected on us, we could not be present. siQce the power has been delegated to the AEPC; and (Interruptions)

(g) whether the amount coJleeted MR. SPEAKER: I do not think: belongs to Government of the AEPC? . there was anything like that. I havo lot the information. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND TEX­ PROF. MAOI:£U DANDAVATB: TILES (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR Let the hon. Minister make a statement SINGH): (a> No, Sir. This work has We were ,half an-hour late. Members of beeD with ABPC· since the inCIPtion of the ruling party wore allowed to roach AEPC. the funeral in time and only (Interruptions) • ••.•• on technical grounds, ~

(b) to (d). D" not arisc. MR. SPEAKER: I must make it (e) No. Sir. The rorfeiture ~f EMDsl olear because I was myself there. BGs by AEPC in terms of ~blic No~s issued by the Governmcllt is not a penalty PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: but merely ~ t,be nature of action taken Y01i are not a member· of the Coagress for non.performance or con'ractual o~li­ party. We are referring to tbe Con.... ptioD OD part ot exporters .. party. . } • 307 St. correcting reply AUGUST 23, 1985 USQ 6Q3 rlt. 26.7.8S 308

MR SPBAlC.ER: I am not 'talking MR. SPEAKER : I saw ; nobody elS(! ~about ;hem either. I am only t~lking of was preseDt. what I saw there. The press bas asked me about it. The fact is that myself on PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: We behalf of the Prime Minister and the have nothing against you. We only say President, Mr. Arun ~~hru and the tbat the hon Minister should make a Defence Minister....••• statement against the discrimination.

AN HON. MEMBER' ~ What about MR. SPEAKER: I say Dobody was Mrs. Bajpai ? there. '

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : MR•• SPEAKER: Mrs. Bajpai went There was discrimination in tbe arrange­ there of her own, by the daily ~ervice and ments made. she reached therc. She did not travel with us. Only we three were there. PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxar): It is very unfortunate that the precious SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : time of the House is being taken away What about Sbri Moopanar ? on ndn-issues. The hone Minister of Home Affairs is here. Yesterday you MR.. SPBAKER : Shri Moopanar promised to speak to the hone Minister of might have gone somewhere else. I do Home Affairs. not know. MR. SPEAKER: I have alreadY spo. ken to him. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : He went to the funeral. PROF, K,K. TEWARY: After the heinous murder of Shri Longowal Amritsar MR. SPEAKER: I saw tgem there Golden Temple has been taken over by and I met them there-Mrs, Bajpai and extremists and sweets have been distributed the ethers. While coming back. J saw and murders have bet'o applauded by B..tba members going including Opposition Jogendra Singh The hon, Mmister of leaders. I got this information that the Home Affairs ye~lerday made a revelation lAC provided the aircraft for all thrse to the House th~t Paki')tani Government members. That is why, I felt that I must hus been imparting training to the~e clarify the matter. I told the press that extremists and they h ..tVe been urtleashed they are coming. That i~ whet I told into Punjab, I wonder why the Govern­ them because somebody from the Opposi­ ment of India has not lodged a formal tion came to me nnd said "We; re protest to the Pakistani Gov.,;rnmeLlt for going," Mr, Ama1 Datta came and said training the extremists. As- thjs has been "We are gojng there." We have been estabJished, what stepS Government of provided this service and. we w~nt there, India is takIng in ruunding up th.! criminals? PROF. MADHU DANPAVATE: My point is, way should Ihere be di~crj­ ~R. SPFAKPR : 'l"his is a new mination? situatio.e. The hon Minister of Home Affairs il; a1,)1) here. He will take care of it and Jet you know, ('nterruption!; \ MR. SPEAKER: There is no discrj_ minatjoD. PROF. K K. TEWAR Y : It i~ a very important matter. Election~ have been ., PROF: •• MADHU OAN[)AVATE: announced. These criminals will make Not about you, The members of the further trouble. ruling party were provided air~raft to reach there in time, 81ld the members of MR. SPEAKER: I wiTl a~k the hon. tbe Opposition could not reach in time. Minister to look into the matter. 3" 9 Papers Laid BH~DRA \ t \ 907 (SAKA) .Paptra Laild 310 ~

PROF. K.K. TEWARY ~ Why don't versions) of tho Engineering you ask the bon. Minister or Home Export Promotion Council. Affairs? Calcutta, for the year 1983.84 along with Audited • Accounts. MR. SPEAKER : I have already told him. I have already done it. (ii) A copy of the Review Hindi and English versions) PROF. K.K, TEWARY: Why have by the Government on the they nOl been arrested ? working of the Engineering Ex'port Promotion Council, MR. SPEAKER: I have already told Calcutta, for the year him. 1983.84.

(4) A statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers men­ 12.04 hrs. ' tioned at (3) above.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1381/85]. [E"gU .. h] NotifJcation under Dowry Prohibition Annual Reports and Reviews on the (Amendment, Act. 1984 and Dowry working of the Engineering Export Prohibition (Maintenance of List's Promotioll Council, Calcutta, for of Presents to the Bride and Bride- 1982-83 and 1983-84 and steta- groom) Rules, 1985 ments for delay in laying these papers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND (SHRI H.R. BHARADWAJ): Sir, I beg COMMERCE (SHRI. VISHWANATH to Jay 00 the Table : - , PRATAP SINGH) : Sir. I beg to lay on &the Table :- (1) A copy of the Notification No. S.O. 610(E) (Hindi and English (l) (i) A copy of the Annual versions) published in Gazette of Report (Hindi and English lndia dated the 19th August, versioll1) of the Engineering 19-85 appointing the 2nd day of Export Promotion Council, October, 1 985 as the date on Calcutta, for the year which the Dowry Prohibition 1982-83 along witb Audited (Amendment) Act. 1984, shall Accounts. come into for~, issued under section 1 of the said Act, (ii) A copy of the Revjew • (Hindi and English versions) [Placed in Library. See No. LT- by the Gov~rnment on the 1382/85] working of the Engineering Export Promotion Council, (2) A copy of the Dowry Prohibition \ Calcutta, f~r the year (Maintenance of Lists of Presents 1982.S3. to the Bride and Bridegroom) Rules, 1985 published in Noti­ (2) A statement (Hindi and English fiCation No. O.S.R. 664{E) in versions) showing reasons for Gazette of India d~ted tho 19th delay in laying the papers men .. Auaust, 1 985 under sub-sectiOD tioned (1) above. (3) of section 9 of tho Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961 .• ( \) A copy of the Annual (Pl~ccd in Library. See No. LT. Repor t (Hindi and Bnalisb 1383/85] 311 PtlJWrs Laid AUGUST 23. 1985 Papers Laid 312

Notifications under Customs Act, (3) A copy of tbe Consolidated Report 1962, Consolidated Reports on the (Hindi and English versions) on working of Publlcr.. Sector Banks and the working of Regional Rural Regional Rural Banks for the year Banks for the year ended the 31 st ended tbe 3 lst December, 1983· • December, 1983. [Placed in Library. See :No. L T - THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND 1386j8S] COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) Sir, I beg to lay Review 00 the working of and Annual on the Table :- Report of KucJremukh Iron Ore Com­ pany Limited, Bangalore. for (1) A copy each of the following 1984-85 and Statement correcting Notifications (Hindi and English reply to l1.S.Q. No. 2966 dt. 9~8 85 versions) under section 159 of re: Purchase of Iron Ore by liSCO the Customs Act, 1962 :- from private mines.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE O,S,R. 647 (E) published (i) DEPARTMENT OF STEEL (SHRI K. in Gazette of India dat~ NATWAR SINGH): Sir, 1 -beg.to lay the 13th August, 1985 to­ on the Table- gether with an explanatory memorandum making certain amendment to Notifictltlon ( I ) A copy each of th~ following No. I3-Customs dated the papers (Hindi and English ver­ 9th February, 1981 so as sions) under sub section (1) of to permit the 100 per cent sectIOn 619A of the Companies Export Oriented Unda- Act, t 956 :- . takings to clear 25 per cent of their production and 5 (i) Review by the Government per cent rejects on payment • on the worklOg of the Kudre­ of excise duty into the Do­ mukh Jron Ore Compan}, mestic Tariff Area, Limited, Bangalore, for the year 1984-85. (ii) G,S.R. 660 (E) published in IPJaced in Library. See No. TT- Gazette of India dated the 1387j85J. 16th Augmt, 1985 t<'gether with an explanatory note re­ (iJ) Annu.ll Report of tht: K~dre­ garding e'Xem~ tlon to goods III ul. h Iron Ore Company covered by Notification No. Limited, Bangalore, for the 262J85-Customs and 263/ ~car 1984 85 along with 85-Customs dated the 16th Audited Accounts and the August, J 985 from the comments of the 'Comp­ whole of the amtlhary duty troJkr and AuMtor Gl:nera) of customs leviable thereon. ther~on. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1384/85]. (2) A statement (Hindi and English versions) correcting the reply (2) A copy of the ConsoHdated Re­ given on the -:>th August, 1985 port (Hindi and English versions) to Unstarred Question No. 2966 on the working of Public Sector by Shri Indrajit Gupta regarding Banks fOr the year ended the 31st purchase of iron ore by liSCO • December, 1983. from private mine~. {Placed in the Library. See No. [Placed in Library. See No. LT,_ LT-1385j85]. 1388/85]. 313 Papers Laid BHADRA 1. 1907 (SAKA) Messales from Rajya Sabha 314

Notifications under Export (Quality 1983 .. 84 along with Audit. CoDtrol aod Inspertions) Act 1963, ed Accounts aDd the, com­ Review on the working of and Annual ments of the Comptroller Report of Minerals and Metals Trad­ and Auditor General thereon. ing Corporat.ion of India Limited, Nf:'W DeIhl, for 1983-84 dbd State· (3) A statement (Hindi and English ment for delay " versions) sho\ipg reasons for delay in Jayin_s the papers mcn­ TiJE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tioned at.( 2) ~ovc. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.A. SANQMA): Sir, I beg to lay on [Place1 in Library. See No LT­ the Table- • 1390785].

the (1) A copy each of the roHowing Annual Report and Review 00 working of Gentre for Electronics Notifications (Hindi and English Design and Technology, for versions) under suh·section (3) Srinagar, of section 1 7 of the Export {Qua. 1983.84 and Statement for deJay in lity Control and Inspection) Act, laying these papers 1963 :- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AF. (i) The Export of Dried Shark FAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NAB I AZAD) : Fins and Dried Fish Maws Sir, On behalf of Shri Shivraj V·. Patil, , (Quality Control and Inspec. I beg to Jay on the Table- tion Rules. 1985 published in Notification No. S.O. (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report. 3090 in Gazette of India (Hindi and English versions) dated the 6th July, 19"85. of the Centre for Electronics Design and Technology, Sri • (ii) The Export of Dried Fish . nagar, for the year 19 B3 ~84 (Inspection) Rules. 1985 alongwilh Audited Ac- published in Notification counts. No. S.O, 3332 in Gazette of India dated the 20th (ii) A statement (Hindi and July, 1985. English versions) regarding Review l)y the Go .... crnment [Placed in Library. SfC No, LT- 1389/85]. on the working of the Cc;ntre for l=:lectronks Design and Technologv, Srinagar, for the (2) A copy each of the rolJowing year 19S3.H4. papers (Hindi and English ver­ sions) under sub-section (1) pf . fWction 619A of the C()mpallics (2) A statement (Hindi and English Act, 1956 :- versions} showing reason~ for de­ Jay in laying the papers mention .. ed at (J) above. (i) Review by the Government on the wor king of the Mine~ [Place in Library. Ste No. LT- rals and Metals Trading 1391/85]. Corporation of India Limit. ed. New Delhi, for the year 1983 .. 84. 12.06 hrs.

(ii) Annual Report of tht: Mine­ MESSAGES FROM RAJYA SABRA rals and Metals Trading Cor­ porarion ot India Limited, SECRBTARY.GENERAL: Sjr, J New Delhi, for the year ~ave to report the following message"> 315 Message~ from RajYQ Sabha AUGUST 23. 1985 Leave 0/ Absehce 316 received from the Secretary.General of' Lok Sabba in regard to the said Rajya Sabha :- Bill"•

(i) "In accord~nce with the provi­ sions of /uJe J 27 of t he Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Busl­ APPROPRIATION (NO.5) BILL, ~ess in thp Rajya Sabha, J am 1985 directed 60 inform the Lok. Sabhc:l tbat tlle Rajya Sabha. at its sit .. SECRETARY GENERAL: Sir, I lay ting held on the 22~ August, on the Table the Appropriation (No.5) 1985, agreed without any amend­ Bill, 1985, passed b)' th.; Houses of ment to the Essential Services Parliament during the curr~nt session and Maintenance (Amendmenl) liiU, assented to since a rl!port was last made 1 985 which was pas:,td by lhe to the House on the J6th August, 1985. Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the 19th August, 1985:'

I (ii) "In accordance with the provi- 12,07 hrs. sions of sub.rule (6) of lule J S() of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Rajya LEA VB OF ABSENCE FROM THE Sabha, 1 am directed to return SITTINGS OF THE HOUSE herewith the Coffee (Amendment) 'Bill, 1 985. which was passed by MR. SPEAKER: The Committee on the Lok ~abha at its slttmg held Absence of Members from the Sittings of on the 19th August, 1985. and the House in their FlTst Report presented transmitted to the Rdj),a Snbha to the House on 16th August, 1 985. for its recommendations and to ha~e recommended that leave of absence state that tbis House has no I e­ be granted to the following Members for commendations to make to the the period mentioned against each :

1. Sbri Jamilur Rahman 15th January to 30th€( January. 1985- Member expired-absence condoned.

2. Shri B.N. Reddy ] 5th Jsnuary to 30th January, 1985.

3. Shri Saleem I Shervani 13th March to 31st March, 1985.

4. Chowdhry Girdhari Lal 13th March to 2nd April, 1985 and 8th April, to 15th MtJY" 1985-Membor expir.. ed-absence condoned•

S. Shri Motilal Singb . 8th April to 30th April, 1985.

6. S~ri H. N. Ndtlje Gowda 10th April to Sth May, 1985.

7. Shri Chandra Pratap Narain 13th March to 2nd April, 1985 and 8tb Singh April, to 7th May, 1985.

8. Sbri Dbarat Kuttlar Odedra 23rd July to 14th August, 1985.

'9. Smt. Madhuri Singh 26th July to 23rd AUlust, 19B5.

10. Shri Cbandra Mohan Sing\) Nogi 23rd July to 23rd August, 1985. 3 t 7 Estimates Committee BHADRA 1t t 907 (SAK') Commillee on Public 318 Undertakings

Is it the pleasure of the Houl~ that recommendati ons coIltained in the leave as recommended by Committee Seventy-third Report of the Committee may be granted ? , (Seventh Lok Sabh1l) on the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting-Broad .. HON. MEMBERS: Yes. casting.

MR. SPEAKER: The leave is grant. ed. The Members will be informed accordingly. 11.09 brs.

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC UNDER. TAKINGS J 2.08 hrs. Minutes and First, Second, Third, Fourth COMMIITEB ON P~IVATE MEM.. and Fifth Reports BERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishna. giri): Sir, I beg to present tbe following Minutes of first to fifth sittings Reports and Minutes (Hindi and English versions) of the Committee on Public SHRI M. THAMBI DURAl (Dharma .. Undertaking~ :- pur;): Sir, (beg to lQ6 on the Table Minutes (Hindi and English versions) of (i) FIrst Report on Action Taken by the first to fifth sittings of the Committee Government on the recommenda .. on Members' Bill and Resolutions held tions contained in Ninety.second duriug the current sesl)ion. . Report of the Commit tee tSeventh Lok Sabha) on ;NationaJ Thermal Power Corporation Ltd.

(ii) Second Report on Action Taken COMMITTEE ON ABSENCE OF by Government on the recom­ MEMBERS FROM TIIE SITTINGS mendations contained in Ninety­ OF THE HOUSE ,first Report of the Committee (Seven th Lok Sabha, on Bbarat Minutes of Sitting Pet! oleum CorpO.. ation Ltd.

SHRI MADHUSUDAN VAIRALE (iii) Third Report on Action Taken (Akola): Sir. I beg to Jay on the Table by Government on the recom .. MlDutes (Hindi and English versions) of mendatlon.., c(.)ntained in Eighty­ the sitting of the Committee on Absence seventh Report of the Committee of Members from the Sittmgs of the (Seventh Lok Sabha) on Central House held on the· 14th August, 1985. Coal. Washeries Organisation. (iv) Fourth Report on Mineral Ex. ploration Corporation Ltd. and Minutes of the sittings of the ESTIMATES COMMITTEE Committee relating thereto.

Sevfnth Report (v) FIfth Report on Action Taken by Government on tPte recommen" SHRI CHtNTAMANI PANIGRAHI dations contained in Ninety­ (Bhubanec;war): Sir, I heg to present sixth Report of the Committee the Seventh Report (Hindi and English (Seventh Lok Sabha) on Reha. versions) of the Estimates Committee on bilitation Indus'ries Cor j'crah'n Action Taken by Government on the Ltd 3 J 9 Committee on WeI/are A ua UST 23, J 985 Bussf"ess Advbory Commfrtee. ~ 20 o/SC Qnd~ST

COMMITTEE ON SUBORDINATE BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEB LEGISLATION '

Twelfth ~cport Second Report

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~HR' MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : MINISTRY. OF PARLIAMENTARY Sir, 1 beg to Present the Second Rt!pdr L AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NABI (Hindi and English versions) of the Com­ AZAD): Sir, mittee QD Subordmate Legislation I beg to move :

"That this House do agree with the Twelfth Report of the :au~iness Advisory Commitrec presented to the House on the COMMIITEE ON WELfARE OF 22nd August, 1985." SCHEDUL.ED CASTES AND SCHEDULED T1UBES SHR[ G.M~ BANATWALLA: I raise a point of order before you take up this motion. Second Report MR. SPEAKf:R: It ~s late.

SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (Simb): SHRI G.M. BANAl WALLA : I have given them advance notice also. I would Sir, 1 bel to prcsfirut the S:!cond Report (Hindi and Enilish versions) of the Com­ request you ..•.•• mittee on the Welf.. Hc of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes on tbe MlOis[ry of MR: SPEAKER: You are late in Sleel, Mines and Coal (Department,of your notice. Mmes)-Reservation~ for, and employ­ ment of, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled SHRI a,M. BANATWALLA; I Tribes in National Aluminium Company request you to consider this point of Limited. order very coolly. It is not in a spirit • of copfrontation but proper re&ulatioD of the business of the House.

This motion is there before us to adopt the report of the Business Adviso.TY 12.10 Hrs. Committee. ·

COMMITIEE ON WELFARE OF My point of order uDder Rules 288 SCHEDULED CASTES AND in 292 of our Lok Sabha. Now this motion SCHEDULED TRIBES to cqnnot be moved as there is one Item 2 in para 2 of this report. This item refers Minutes of sittings to the Supreme Court (Number of Judles) Amendment Bill, 1985 and ODe hour is allocated for the' same. But the SHRI K.Q. SULTANPURI (Simla) •. Bill has already beCQ passed. Sir, I beg to lay on the Table Minutes (Hiqdi and Englisb vorsions) of the MR. SPEAKER: I know. sittings of the Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Sc3beckJled Tribes SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: The rela.ting to their Second Report. BiU bas alrolJdy been passed .by this House. Now, we are 'havio8 a Report of the :ausines8 Advisory Committee 321 Business Adpisory BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Business l!! the Housl 322 Committee

allocatiog the time of one hour. My That is what I can say. I knew lome .. submissjon is that adoption of this Mo­ body would take up this question, tion would, therefore. be in retrospective effect with regard to the said item and the The question is : Rules 288.289,290, '290"A, 291. 292 and all relevant rules. do not envisage '''That this House do agree with the passing a motion witb retrospective Twelfth Report of the BIJ sioess effect. Advisory Committee presented to the House on the 22n

MR SPEAKER: We had it in mind. (a) The Lighthouse (Amendment) We pa;sed it knowingly at that time. All Bill, 1985. of us knew in the Business Advisory • Committee that it was going to be passed (b) The Narcotic Drugs and this day. We knew it. There is no pro­ Psychotropic Substances BiIJ, blem We have done it earlier also. 1985. The~ is a precedent. It is not a problem. We just did it. We did it knowingly. (c) The Inland Waterways Au­ thority of India Bill, 1985. (Interruptions) (3) Consideration and passina of the Mr. SPEAKER: We dIscussed tbe following Bills, as Passed by same subject. Mr. Banatwalla has taken Rajya Sabha : up the same line as we took yesterday. The Auroville (Emeraency SHRI G.G. SWELL (ShilloD,): Sir, Provisions Amendment Bill, 1985. the Motion sbould be amended. (b) The Pondichcrry University MR SPEAKER: There is no pro­ Bill, 1985. b1em. • We did it know.io·sly. It is just a normal practice that we omit these (c) The National Atrporta thiDP. But your poinf is well takeD; Authority Sill, 1985. 323 Business 0/ the House AUGUST 23, 1985 Business 0/ tll~ N0ise 324

(d) The Standards of Weights SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA (Vishnu­ and Measures (Enforcement) pur) : I want to make the following sub­ Bill, 1985. mission re~arding Business for the remaining part of the Session. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Rajapur) Sir, what about the 1. The Reedi workers of the country motion uDder Rule 194 for postponement are facing hardship in absence of a of elections ? comprehensive legislation for them. It is higb time the Government should bring MR. SPEAKER : Before we take up a comprehensive Bill to improve the submisions~ I would inform the House condition of the Beedi workers so that that at 2.45 p.m. the Prime Minister is they may gel' all facilities which are going to make a statement. enjoyed by the other factory workers.

2. WoJfarm Mines at Chandapathar 12.15 hra. in the district of Bankura,· West Bengal should be nationalised without further [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in 'he Chair] deJay.

SHRI SAIFUODIN CHOWDHARY In view of the urgency, Government (Katwa) : Sir, I want to make the should bring both the Bill in this following submission regarding next SessioD. week's business. (Trans/ation 1 The recently concluded Assam agree­ SARI KALI PRASAD PANDEY ment between Central Government and (Gopalganj) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, agitationists has created certain confusion I would like the hon. Minister of Parlia .. and genuine apprehensions in the minds mentary Affairs to include the following of the people. Lakhs of people are matter in the next weeks Business of the feel,ing insecure. Some constitutional House: points and India's cC'mmitment .to sOlfle international agreements have al~o corne The future of the workers of at leClst under ql~estion with the ~jgnir g of the six sugar miTIs which are likely to be agreement. Henc~ a dic:cmsion.js urgently closed down as a result of the recent required to clarify the whole thing and decision of the Rihar State Sugar Cor­ dispel apprehension') and doubts from the poration has become uncertain. About minds of the people. r ,000 temporary and ~,OOO permanent workers of the Hathua Sugar Mill Loria and the New Siwan Sugar Mill alone , Of late, the functioning of the Univer­ wou1d be rendered jobless and there is sities hoI' comt" undei severe critici"m a possibility of ten lakh quintaJs of from different qUlIrt, rs There is nne sugar~ane getting dried lip or being bUl nt strong orin ion tflat univer-:ity and in the reserved area of the mill, different seCtions of f'cople connect~d with it should not enjoy such freedom It is also understood that the Bihar and rights as they are enjoying now. On State Sugar Corporation has decided to the other, 1he opPosing op~nkm firmly nUl only 5 out of the It units this year believes that dearh of democrnllc righls is to effect economy and the units at at the root of all evi)s. Hence eXlemion Vanmankhi, Sarnastipur. Guraul, Sakri of domorutic rjght~ is a must for the and Varsili,ganj will function while the effective and purposeful func:tioning of units at Reyam. Hathua Sugar l\1ills,. the university. Under the circumstances, Loda, New Siwan, Motipur Behta, Lohat strong apprehensions have bcch aroused and 9uraru wiJl remain closed duting in the minds or the J'eopl<". Hence a this year. If the Corporation runs II discllssion on the subject is n'ccessary. units it will have to incur a 108s of ~2S 1JlIsi"fs$ tJf. the HOUfB BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) BuslniSI of the House 326

Rs. 9.2 crores. The units it is go ins we have to survive, telephone service bas to tun will incur a loss 'of Rs. 6 got to be given to the needy persons. crores while the closure of tne . There \s no doubt that we have made an • other five units will result in a loss of alround progress in this industry • only Rs. 3.2 crores. But the decision of the Corporation to run five units at a However, there are cases where pro­ loss of Rs. 6 crores and close the seven vision of this service, though very much units which would result in only a loss required, is Dot to be seen in ncar future. Rs. 3.2 crores is beyond the comprehen­ One such case is Malad in Bombay. In sion of the people.· It is also understood Malad area, total pending requests for that in Varsiljgaoj and GurauJ areas, the telephone connections have gone upto mills do not have capacity utilisation and 23527. The requests were made AI in the rest of the three units, very little early as 1971 which have not been con­ of sugarcane is available in the mills sidered SO far. This is particularly true reset ved area, for Malad which is lagging behind the greatest in Bombay. Therefore, I would request Government to Issue a direct to the Bihar State Sugar I request that this item may be included Corporation in this regard that if they for detailed discussion next week. want to run only five units, the sugar mill, Loria and Ne~ Sewan Sugar mill SHRI SOMNATH RATH (Aska): should be included and some otner units Sir, the following matter be included for whIch may not be having capacity discussion in Government Business in the utilisation may be closed in their pJace coming week, commencing from 26th If it is not possible to do so, then August, 1985. alternative employment opportunities should be made available to those ren­ Orissa stands in Marine Inland Bra­ dered jobless. ckish Water Fisheries sources, develop­ ment of which can contribute substantially [EIl,e lish] to the soclo·economic condtitions of the poor fishermen of the State. The Seventh SHRI ANOOPCHAND SBAH {Born PILlO cnv lsages increase of Marine Fish bay North) : Sir, I request that the Production to 1,00,000 Mf by the end following items tUllY please be included of th~ plan period the JeveJ of 54,000 in the business for the next week. MT by the end of the 6th Plan. Con­ struction of the Fishing Harbour at (1) I would like to draw the attention Gopalpur, bewides at Paradip, Dhamara, of the hon. Railway Minister to a A~arang, requires special attentioD. growI08 problem of railway services in Brackish Water fishing has got great Bombay. I might mention that the sub· potential in the coastal districts ot Oanjam. urban services are quite inadequate here. Puri, Cuttack and Baleswar. There should Tbus. the commnters find it very difficult be Brackish Water Fish Farmers Develop­ to reach to their destination 0 n time. ment Agency in Ganjam district. The One such case is the need for introduction fishing Harbour at Gopalpur alongwith the of such a service between Visar and And­ commercial harbour under construction heri It is understood that whilo its with Central assistance requires special and intr~duction is justified on merits, the foremost attention of the Central Govem~ delay in its introduction is causilll a lot ment. It should be expedited. Bertbing of problems (0 the commuters. • facilities for deep sea fishi~g at Pcadip should be approved and financial assis .. I would request that this may be in­ tance be given by tbe Central Government cluded for discussion. 800n. Under the inland fishing project, with .World Bank assistance, Orissa Fish Seeds (~) In this 20th c.=ntury, telephone Development Corporation, establishing scrV1CC is an essential facility for trade modern hatchery at Bhanjanagar, require to and other services. Needless ·to say, jf be expedited. Since tbe local people havo 321 BUS/MSI 01 the House AUGUST 23, 1985 Business o/the·House 328

[Shd Anoop Chand Sbab] for irrjcation siDro 1975. but now the cooperated in giving their lands, special .taff of the IrriBation Department are not attention should be given Cor employment allowing them this facility. During every of the people of the area for smooth successive crop. their turn for water running of the Project. The welfare pro­ supply is overlooked. gramme for Pisciculturist and fishermen should be given top priority. The Central I would, therefore request tbe Irrigation Government is requested to approve the Minister to issue orders to the Rajaslhan project and assist the Orissa Government Government to tee that the areas which in sranting sufficient funds to achieve the were being supplied water for irrigation object. since 1975 should be permanently put on the roster for this purpose sO tbat they SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI have their turn on time. Further I would (Bhubaneswar): I beg to submit the submit that Ganganagar di strict has be~n following matter to be included in the included in the Indira Canal arca and next week's Government business in the a survey should again be conducted there House. to bring more and more land under the command-area so that the farmers of Orissa is a backward State both econo­ that area may be saved from starvation. mically and socially. There are not These measures will also result in an enough railway lines which pass through increase in the production of foodgrains this State. Only a few kilometres of new in the country. railway line was added after independence. There is no direct train for the people of [EngIiJh] western part and southern part to come SHRI C, JANGA RBDDY (Hanam­ to Bubaoeswar which is the State capital. konda): Railway Economic and Technical Now, passengers have to come from Survey Committee of Railway Board visited Bolangir, Kalhandi, Koraput and parts several States for selecting a suitable site of Ganjam District to Bhubaneswar and for setting up a Coach Factory with a Puri by changing trains And routes. This capacity {)f 1000 coaches per year. The is causing delays and difficulties. Hence, Committee visited Khazipet in Warangal a proposal was submitted by the Orissa District in Andhra Pradel'\h also, The Government to Railway Ministry for Government of Andhra Pradeqh has come introducing a direct train caJled Mahanadi forward to provide yarious facilitIes Express from TitJagarh or R~drur to including land, water or electricity. It is Bhubaneswar and Puri to provide direct learnt that tht! Committee ha ... recommend­ train facilities. If Mahanadi Express is ed Khazipet a'5 the most suitable place for introduced, it will go a long way in setting up Coach Factory .. It, ;..; however, serving the people of the~e regions Also, learnt that the Government of India is it will help the movement of goods nowselting up the Coach Factory in Pun­ traffic. jab~ Warangcll District is having a Jot of unemployed youth who are turning to Therefore, I request the Mmistry of violent naxatitC' activities out of fru'\tratioll RailwdYs to introduce Mahnnudi, E)"press The Coach Factory 39 recommended by as early as possible connectmg Titlagarh the Survey Committee should, therefore, or Raipur wilh Bhubaneswar. be established at Khazipet with full capa· city to build 1000 coaches Qer year. as a [Translation J third one', as there is necessity of coaches SHRI BIRBAL (Ganganagar): Mr. also. Deputy Speaker Sir, I want to rai~e the following matter next week in the HOllse As per the Presidential Order, zonali­ and, therefore. I may be granted leave to sat ion in Andhra Pradesh has been made to do so : applicable to the recrijitment to various posts in Government services and to ad­ In the Indira Canal area, the farmer!) mis~il)ns to various institutions in general had been getting regular water supply education. But admissions to the ptofes. 329 Busln.Iss 0/ the HOllS~ BHAORA J, 1907 (SAKA) Buslneslf 01 the House 330 .~ sioDat college like Medical and Engineering SHRIMATI BIBA GHOSH GOSWAMI have not been cov('red by the zQnaJisation (Nabadwip) = I request inclusion of the scheme with the result (hat a large number following matter in next week's busi­ of scats in tbe Medical and Engineerins ness :- Colleges of the "ackward Telengana Region are being taken away by non.local The river Ganga has been eroding candidates and the people of Telengana valuable lands on the upstream and down­ region are denied their legitimate right .as stream of the Farakka Barrage. Tbe apposed to the Jetter and spirit of the Ganga Erosion Committee with the M~­ Presidential which is being subjected Order ber (Floods), C. W. C. 88 Chairman had to exploitation by those from afflauent submitted its report in January, 1980, areas. The erosio:J problem is progr.essively in­ creasing in recen~ years and on the Right With a view to safeguarding the legiti­ Bank downstream of the Barrage, if not mate and genuine interests of the peopJe checked now, the river will engulf the rail­ of the Telengana RegioD, it is proposed way line, National Highway, State High .. tbat the Presidential Order be modified way and the Feeder Canal of the Farakka suitably to cover admissions to professional Barrage Project. thus defeating the very collcaes also under zonalisation scheme purpose of the Project. According to the and the seats to the extent of 8'S per cent decision at the 34 th meeting of the Parak­ be reserved for local candidates leaving the ka Barrage Control Board on 5.1.1984 remaining 1 S per cent for open compe .. the General Manager, Farakka Barrage tition. Project submitted in November, 1984. two estimates for a total of Rs. 18 crores In view of the urgency, tbe above for immediate protection works against subjects may be included for discussion in bank erosion. The Technical Advisory the coming week. Committee to the Farakka Barrage Project in its 69th meeting in January, 1985 SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA(Batasore) . urged for the early implementation of I would )ike the fonowing subjects to be these works "since it cannot brook further included in the business for next week. delay".

1. In spite of all sincere efforts by rhe Government the free sale sugar has In view of the urgency of the matter, become a race commodity. It is being sold Lok Sabha &houJd take it up before ad­ at a rate ranging from Rs 8/- to Rs. J 0/­ journing sine-die. per KG in various par ts of the countrY9 part:cuJarJy in States like Orissa, West 'THE MINISTER OF PAR LIAMEN­ Bengal, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, TARY AFFAIRS(SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): etc. This very important subject needs to Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I 3m grateful be discussed to ensure easy availability of to the hon, Members for the number of free sale sugar and that too at a reasonable points thtJt they have raised. That show~ price .. their great interest in tbe busine~s of th~ HOllse and they also know that these 2 _ Large scale pest attack on Ihe current matters are considered by the Business Kharif crops specially paddy crops and vege­ Advisory Committee As things stand tables in many parts of the country, parti­ today,' I have anncunced Government cularly in the States like Orissa. West Bengal. busiqess during the remaining part of the Andhra Pradesh. Ms'dya Pradesh, etc. has session. TheJICfore while expressing my become a matter of great concern for appreciation for what the hon. Members million$ of farmers. It requires immediate have rai'Sed, these matters wilJ be consi­ precautionary and preventive measures. or dered by the Business Advisory Committee else the farmers shaJl be put to great and as things stand now. I cannot say losses. This subject needs to be discussed whether these matters will be included in in the next week. the next \\cek's business.

\ 331 Norcotlc Drllgs and AUGU$T 23, 1985 Dis. toe : Rpport 0/ National 331 Psychotropic S~bsta1Jce BIU Instt. of Pul)llc F'inallce and PoJicy .' "Aspects of Blank Economy in India"

12.32 hn. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Sit, l introduce the Bill. LIGHTHOUSE (AMENDMENT) BILL·

THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND 12.34 brs. TRANSPORT '(SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): I beg to mO\le' for leave to introduce a DISCUSSION R£: REPORT OF NA. BiIJ further to amend the Lighthouse Act, TIONAL IN.STITUTE OF l)UBLIC FI­ 1927. NANCE AND POLlCY ON "ASPECTS OF BLACK ECONOMY IN INDIA"- The MR. DBPUTY S1!EAKER Co~td. question is :- , , "That leavo,lJe g",nted to introduce a. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND Bill further to amend the Light­ COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANAfH house Act, 1927.ft PRATAP SINGH); Mr. Speakr;r, Sir, yesterday, we had a very stimulating de­ The motion was udopted, bate on tbe report on black economy, and Shri \ Amal Datta who is l!ere said SHRI Z,R. ANSARI: Sir, I intro. that this report is tailor made to what the duce the Bill. Government wants to do. I assure you that this was not the purpos" of the de­ bate, What I mc.mt was that before Htkmg any deciSion, Jet the House be 12,33 hrs. bendited oy the suggestions of the hoo. Member who h~lVC an insight into the va­ AND NARCOTIC DRUGS PSYCHO­ I iOlls f:lsp~C(!> of the report and. precisely, TROPIC SUBSTANCES DlLL· that is whal the deb..lte has dune, I am gratdul to him that he cumplimented TH~ MINISTER OF rlNANCE ANI) me for havmg brought this report out COMMERCE (SHRI VISHW,\NATH and It is the intention to bring out other PRATAP SINGH): I beg to move reports. Iso, IIkt: the Abid Hussain Com­ for h:ave to introduce a Bill trl consolidate mittee Report, aud tQis will be a general and amend the law relating to narcotic stance, Members have co~.:nment~d on drugs, to make stringent proyisions for the estimate, of bluckmooey and J think the control and regulation of operations , it is much lower than what it is in relating to narcotic drugs and psychotropic existence. substances and for maners connected th~rewitb. Now, there may be differences about quantification of blackmoney, but quali. MR, DEPUTY SPEAKER: The tatively, we all do agree that it is in size­ question is : able proportion and its oyer-proportion "That leave be grantod to introduce a does concern us and action is necess~ry. Bill to consolidate and amend the On this point, there is no. difference oC Jaw reJating to narcotic drugs, to OpID100. Mrs. Gceta Mukherjee in her make stringent provisions fot ',he eloquent way touched every aspect of control and regulation of opera­ the report from the beginning to end. tions relating to narcotic drugs She said that it contained germs of and psychotropic substances and plague ; but in ~pite of the germs of plague all over in the repott-,sbc migbt for matters connected therewith, t, have said it-she did concede some posi­ The motion was adopted. tive elements of it. So, tbere are areas

• Publisbed in Gazette of India Extra-ordinary. Part II. Section 2 dated 23-8-1985" 333 DI!. re : Report of HADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Finance and Policy "As- 334 Nationall"str. of Public peet of Black Economy in Tndia" b-y which you are kicking' Ho where there is 1\0 plague in that report. compared Government's action against tax So, I will confine my~lf first to,those evaders with this, He said we should positive areas, on which perhaps there is prepare a strong boot to kick them with. agreement on both the sides of the House I assure you that we are preparing the -i.e. the positive aspect where we haye boot, But we are not going to wait tiJJ no differences, for example on tightening we get the hoot. Whatever we have gOt, of laws for better enforcement; on action we kick with Whatever gunpowder against tax evaders, and on funding of will .it. we have got under the law, we will use eJection expenses-quite a few Members it rjght away. If we have not muzzle. spoke for it, but as Finance Minister, I loading gun, we will use the muzzb­ cannot off. the-cuff react to it ; but cer. loading gun to.day. When we have the tainly, that was the essence of what many cannon, and better weapons, we wiIJ use Members said. them_ We are forging them.

There was also agreement about simpli­ SHRI ANAL DATTA: Don't use the fication of tax laws, and on the need sten gun. for integrity amOng officers and'poJiticiaDs. I think on these we all, on both the SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP sides of the House, agree, ie, with the SINGH : We will fight with whatever essence of the report. So, there are weapons we have got. We wiJ1 not wait positive germs also, apart from plague tiJI the law comes. We will amend the ones. JawaJso.

SARI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har­ One of the recommendations which bour) : These were all known before the also finds support from both the sides­ report came, " For these, we need not generally, T feel-relates to the tax require the report, eva <.ler. Regarding the principle of me rea which is applied to-day- the L . Minister is also here ; I wiJ) be com SARI VISHWANATH PRATAP to him-the recommendation is thJ SINGH: No; sometimes we make a v~ry act should be punishable, and the formal statement and analysis. For in­ onus of proof should be on the tax stance, a doctor may diagnose a patient evader Without committing the Govern­ and tell him: 'You have cold'. The.,a. ment, r think this is a positive suggestion, tient may say: C I know it. Smce the and I think I will positively exnmine this; time I came from home, I have had cold,' in consultation with the Law Minister. So, certain things are known even prior Jt will give much bite to our present to diagnosis. law. Then about the recommendation in the- But there have been differences of rerort regarding special conrts. Already opinion, and strong differences of opinion we have accepted this, Several Slates, in a~eas of reduction of taxes, of reduc. ~(Ier the nnnouncemcnt of the Budget. tion of controls, about the scheme f(')r have set them UP. Delhi has set up Bonds for Slum Clearance and on anot{ler speci II courts: but J am not personally step for unearthing bJack money. These satisfied wifh the present arrangement. are the points on which there have been I want to come up with much more differences of opinion. But on 5 or 6 effective special 'Courts. For this, we points, there has been agreement. would be inter-neting with .the 1 aw Ministr" as to how 10 make these special So, I wi)J first start with areas of court, by themselves, much more effec. disagreement. Shri Dube yesterday tive. But under the present arrangement, quored a very interesting ~xampJe of a ~e will certainly go ahead with the ~ctting mother-in-law having filuill. She kicks the up Qf special courts. daughter.. in.Jaw, and the daughter-in .. law Then 'here is a recommendation that .. Bays: ·Well, this is a very soft foot in searches and seizures, thete should be 335 Dis. re : Report of AUGUST 23, 1985 Flnance.Qud Policy "As- 336 Nationallnstt. 0/ Public peel of Block Economy in India"

[Sbrl Visbwanath Pratap ~ingh] not go into detail b;,ca.us! it is Dot a a selective approlch, so that thero is subject of debate. Then there is a CAse 8uffi~icDt cvid"o::e to finally convict " of Surat tin piales. We were debating on p,riOl. I tbink that ii a 8)oj rc.;:om· prices of fruits and vegetables. black­ meDdatioQ ~ it is a recolnrnendation marketing and profiteering. rhere was a which says tbat the tax department should raid on four p~rsons in DeJbi at once do its own wOlk, aod not go on a wilJ place on one d"y which yielded un­ goose chase, so that there is harassment account, money and jewell :ry, e.c. of all over. but the end-result is not much. Rs. 87 lakhs. One major industnalist in Bombay. sugar industrialist was aided This is precisely what we have started and that had an eff-=ct on sugar prices in to gether information first and then go Bombay. You know tbe name bad come in for searches and raids. There is a even in the Parliam..:nt against whom we recommendation about the delay in pro­ are taking pro.iecution action. I would cessing of cases of searches and sdzures not go into the indIvidual name, but the and that the delay should be shortened. overall achievement is good. Upto 1985, I think that is a good suggestions and we have seized gold worth Rs. 122 crores we are a1so looking into it how can against Rs." 66 crores }.lst year, almost sborton it and what necessary chl!oges double. Sorry, there is a volue of seizure. would be neccs9ary. Gold worth Rs. 31 crores was seized for this year against about Rs. 6 ccores last year. The exact figure is Rs. 5.76 Mr. Suba Reddy yesterday said about crores, So, it is five times that of last the raids and comml!nted on that. We year. The numher of detention is much have organised on these lines tho opera. higher. Then there is a prima fad' un­ tlons of ketll and kali. Two mJjor accounted assets of about Rs. 10 crores oporatfohs were done, apart from in bet­ up to 31 s[ july, in this .financial year also. Now, some of the n:suhs are wcoe aglinst Rs. 6 crores last year. What I interestibg which have come III the Pr~ss m:!an to say IS that there is a political also. In ketlt there were five nujor per­ will to d~a I wi lh such people also. sons who were controlling 60 per cent of Already, we are further gomg to streng­ the meg'll transactions in forr: ign then it by having our Economic Intelli­ eKchangO'. 12 person'S of thal synulc:.ltc gence Bureau. We will have integrated are in COf1'EPOSA behind the b.lrs and Intelligence Bureau and integrated action the government has done it. They ad. on customs. excise, income tax and mitted an annual turn of Rs. 1 84 crores, others. But still. some of the people in and tbe mo.lus operandi was that not the ~ress have taken to criticise our much account was kept except 3-4 days; actions. They have become fond-at that was on telephone and they have their Jast-of the Fmance Minister, and almost OWD way of trust for doing all these every day th€'re is a write up or on edito­ things. Goods w~rth Rs. 4 t /2 c(ores rial regarding these raids. were seized. Th!re was a C.lrtoon in one of the papers showing Rs. 4 1/2 c(ores SHRI C. MADHAV REDDY (Adila­ and one sm'll! rat w IS killed by a gun bad): 001) One section of the Press, It is Dot a Q Jestion of one rate but not all. the expression on I..lther faces; tbat is more important It has a deterrent effe~ ; SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP jt has a multiplier effect. Then there was SINGH: Not all, yes. I must ack­ an operation in kali. 1 8 persOns were nowledge that one section have supported arrested. The total arrests made were me. 1t was pointed out that the budget 35, 12 under COFEPOSA. Foreign ex .. presented by tne, was supported by tbe change documents and transactions over big business. A section of the Press Rs. 10 crores were caught and invoice had said that 'it is the big business that manupulation of Rs. 4.7 crores was there; is supporting the Budget·.. At l~st we goods s~lzed were also of Rs. -4.35 have now some big business Press which crorcs. In Delhi, ab()ut Rs. 1 S crores is attacking tbe Finance Minister if tbat worth of transactions took placo. I will was a valid arlument -althougb I do Do& 337 Dis. re : Report 01 BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Fmance and Poliey "As- 338 Natioaa/ Inslt. of Public peel tlf Black EC(Jhomy in India'" tbjnk. that it is a valid .arsument-aDd say, "you are not liberal enough". at Jeast some doubts will bedisp~l1ed. Others will.. say that "you tlre too libe­ ral". nat will he there. We havo taken the middJe path and we will con .. Shri Anadi Charan Das yesl~rday said • that we should no~ go back on this, I tiouc. Some say that we should help • am very m~ch strengthened by the hOD. the private sector and others say that Member's oplUJon and I do not feel we should help the public sector. Any­ strengthened that now we have taken up way) we have adopted a mixed economy. the right path, and I am grateful to him, or opted for a mixed path. We have and with the as~uraDces given we will said, 'Yes, we wil) have a public sector'. coDtJnue to tako that path. We will" We have also said, ··We will have a continue it. public sector, we will have a healthy public sector,": and we hive a private Now we come to areas where there sector, and that is how we have charted aUf course. have been dlff~ren(.-es of opinion: and I think that this IS not only a difference of opinion on indlVldu.ll items. (he per­ Well, in a mixed economy what should ceptIons of economy that we have and be the 'mix.' 1 The essential point that it JS deeperthan that, on the ba')i~ of our has been raised is this. It should be 2 political or economic thinktng. And per cent or mo&;e, here it is Question of th.u i'i, on the rate of taxes pUl on the having much more. or as to how much publIC and private sector. The issues rrore we can give to the private sector, that have been raised, I feel, concerning the how much we can do to the publi(! sector, rale of taxes, arc of very small arena to how much resources we may have for debate these issues. It is much more public spending, how much relief we can than this debate, haw we see the economy give to the private sector, So, here. it we are owmg the sources of productioa is a question of judgement. Govern-' and how the produclion should be ment has to view various things aod organised -these are all more funja­ come to a judgement, We have to exer. mental issues than to be discussed in a cise our judgement in this regard. debate here.

On the one side there Bre people who SHRt B.R. BHAGAT (Arrah): One profess a zero taxation. or zero per cent point. 1axes, On the other side there are pro­ ponents who say that there should be SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP ODe hundred per cent taxation, in exports, SINGH: I have not finished O I have etc., and we are between zero per cent to expound my vfew. I am not yielding. . and 100 per cent. Let me make my full statement. It is very clear in our perception also that SHRIMATI GBETA MUKHERJEE the public sector will continue to have (Pdnstura): But, 98 and 2 both are the commanding heights of economy. between zero and 100. There is no going baCk on this. On this there is no qUestion of any doubt. SHRI VISHWANATH l>RATAP But agriculture contmues to be in the SINGH Yes. We are somewhere priva~e sector. There is no provision to near SO, ~o, we will always be attacked take over agriculture, That contributes from tbe right as well as the left. These 45 per cent of the GNP. objections will be there. There are peopJe on your side who SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub­ say that the agricul ture should be in the oagar): Feom tbe extreme righ.t. State sector.

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP AN HON. MEMBER No body SINGH: And also from the left. Some said so. 339 Du. re : hpnrt 0/ AUGUST 23, t 985 Finance and Polly "As- 340 National Instt. 0/ Public ~ct 0/ Black Economy In India" SHRl VISHWANATH PRATAP The escape routes that tax evaders have SINOH: Th~t is your philosophy. .If adopted lawfully, have beeD plugged. )'ou go to your Phi1osophy you will say More we will try to plug in future, ~ ~. . When we discuss' rates, I thin~; we There are contradictions in the mixed should not consider" it hypotheticalty. economy. These economic class conflicts Take for instance personal taxatien. In are not eliminated. We have to manage 1983.84 a~ut J 9.S per cent of the it by our various anti.poverty schemes', revenue came from salaried eless. And etc. Certainly Qur goal is to remove • that is the class which cannot escape. this poverty contlict in a democratic You raise rates and this . classe~ gets manner and to go in a better egalitarian nailed out. In 1983-84, the same year, society where there is more justice and the contributed from public sector to less exploitation. That is our path. corporate tax was sa per cent. So, the Mr. Priya Ranjan Das Mutlsi and hiking up of rates means from your {lwn Kumari Tara Devi yesterday mentioned public sector you are taking about 58 about tbe socialist commitment of the per cent-more than half, Whom are Congress. That is precisely Our path you feeling 1 It is from onc pocket to tbat in a democratic framework we pro­ the other, and we are making ideological gressively go ahead a~d eliminate the debates on this very issue of tax rates. exploitive system that is there. 10 between Let us see what is happenina. So, I the contradictions are there. Ybu can just wanted to put before the hOD. always criticise those things There is Members this aspect also. contradiction in wealth. So we are ope­ rating within this framework. I also Then there is the suggest ion on concede the point that so long as we smuggling that the prices of those. items organise the society on a profit motive, smuggled should be attempted b1ack.money wiIJ be a pro17Jem It is which are potential difficult in principle to contradict this to be reduced, because the of lort of propos-ition. But once you or­ smugglmg depends on the prices here and abroad. If the difference is high, the ganise it. then certainlY everybody Will potentia) is high and the price is more, try to take advantage of it. Thllt IS why, we are not relying on reduction of rates and if the potential is less, the prke i~ only. We said clearly that along with less. I think this i-; a reasonable sugges­ reduction of rates we would apply lhe tion but we have limits or our foreign rod also. Because of the clement of exchange. How far can we do it ? If you greed and it is a human tendency also, allow gold to come openly and if you have we have mixed rneasur'ts. We have no the foreign exchange for that, there will illusion that just reduetion of taxes will be no smu~glinJ!. Rut we just do not have the forei~n exchange though we bring us tax revenue voluntarily. I am not punisi:ing the tax payers at all. know that for everything that is being smug- gled, something is going out. Nobody IS They are not tbe targeh Tax evaders gifting it at the risk of his life. So, we are the tarHet. That Will continue. We to have mix policy-economic are making the law tishter. have of policy to try to reduce the prices and al'io When we have the ta~ structure it is admini~trative measures to phY!llically stop not only the evasion of tax and genera. smuggling-and take admmistrative tion of black-money that is in mind but deterrent action And that is what we it is the growth aspect that iii in mind aTe trying. In our new tellttile policy also and to have the structuflJ that will be we have tried. to reduce manmade fabrics conductive to growth and .. finally to price, but it mUlit be passed on to the revenue as growth goes UP. consumers. I warn the industries that if th~y do not pass it on to the consumer, we are not going to give them any con­ One or the recommendatjon~ in the cession. It is not a concession aiven for Report is of doing away with deductions. them to pocke-t it and not to' pass It on to Severa) deduction we have taken away. the consumC:lf. 341 DII. re : Report 01 BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Financ~ and Polley "As. 34~ . Na,IOfIal Instt. 0/ Public p~('t of Blork Eronam), In India"

We are comiDa with an indirect tu thouah we will get revenue later. So, reform by next year aDd in between allo this wiJl have to be phased Il\lt over a tew we will do something. Already we have ~ years so that revenue loss is not much by done something. On fertili~r we havo tbe lime we regain it in coming YCars by reduced customs duty from 65 per ceot 'economy. to zero per cent, on power we have reduced customs duty from 65 per cent 13.00 brs. to 25 per cent, on pulses we have brought it to zero per cent, On many items of electronics wo" have brought it to zero per Now, about the public spending, the cent or to a very low percentaae. The idea keport has made out that the public is that ours ba$ DOW become a high-cost spending is one of the causes. I do Dot economy, If we levy duties right from agree that public spending as such is one the start and since in power and fertilizer of the causes. In fact, pubhc spending much public sector investment is there, is the prime mover or the economy. the whole cost of product goes up from Much of the public sector will be sick it year to year and that product becomes there was not enough public spending. priced at a high level, and the whole And there is a correlation between the economy pays for it. So, instead of growth of the industry and private sector tak ing revenue one time and making all and public spending. So, we support the the time high cost, it is better to have public spending as such, but the loopholes low costing so that people finally get which lead to corruption certainly should cheaper product and by growth or expan­ be plugged. So, for that we should Dot sion of demand. by buoyancy, we set the reduce the public spendillg, but try to reven ue back. Bu t it will take a Ii ttle plug the loopholes. longer time. So, this is the thinking that we have on our customs duty reform and J agree that the wasteful expenditure on our excise duty reform, to see how far within Government should be curbed. we can contribute to this and that unne.. We are making a serious exercise depart. cessary taxation does not stOp our growth ment-wJse. If there are directorates or In this the idea is that the raw material may organisations wihch are redundant only be taxed at lowtr rate, cben the inter· having some 5t1ft" and officers and DO med,ate goods. and the consumer goods. contribution, certainly the axe will faU on We do not need to heavily tax the finished them. We will soon come with a pro. products. In these areas where there is indi-. posal to cut wasteful cxp.:ndituro. genaus capacity, we will have to give pro­ tection but also we have to ask the There was a suggestion on stamp duty. indigenous industries how much protection I think this relates to the State Govern­ do they want. They are giants, the are ments and the Central Government cannot FERA companies; they are MRTP com­ do much about that. panies which have establis~ed the mselves over the years, but tbey are still grown up babies and are always asking for protec­ There w"s a suggestion about introduc­ tion. We'have to tell them that allrigbt, ing bonds for slum clearance anti for real we will give them protection, hundred per estates. For these one schemo bas boca cent, two hundred per cent, three hundred suggested. Shri Mahajan, Shri Jena, Shri per cent, but there has to be somc limit Dogra and Shri Rajhans have strongly Tney owe a duty to the people and tbe supported this proposal in .the Report, consumer of this country. They cannot whUe it has been equally strongly opposed 10 on extorting profit from them just be. ,by several other Members. Well, there are cause of govcrnment protection. They stroDg reason. on both sides. On 0PPOI­ owe it to the people here to become more ina it we have seen that various disclosure efficient and <:heaper. But between tbis, schemes bave not had that much effect there is a contradiction betweon immediate . Bearer bonds have become a circulatiDa revenue loss and tho lona-term growth. instrument to cover up black-money. So. we will havo to faco it. We cannot thouah they bad mopped up Rs. 1.000 tako a reveDuo los. risht in ODO year crores at that time. There is also a 'colina. 343 Judges (Prote('lion) Bill AUGUST 23, 1985 Judges (Pr.)tettimaJ Bill 344

[Shri Vishwanalh Pratap Singh] or other persons acting judiciaJly shaH be amoDg the honest tax. payers that .. they HabJe to be sued in any Civil Court, tor the ha ve to pay whereas those who have not execution of any warrant or otder. which paid are getting the benefit. So, there are he would be bOund to execute, if within the weighty arguments on both sides The others the jurisdicti6n of the perton 4ssuing the hon. Members who have supported it they same. have in mind perhaps that this money can be brought into the mainstream and that The proposal is to provide for immunity in future it wiJI become a source of against any Criminal or Civil action or revenue and we can tax it. When it comes proceeding against any per~on who is or in the .mainstream it will make a. hea1thy was a Judge. in resptct of any act, word contribution to the economy -and will also or deed, committed. spoken or done re~­ lead to growth apart from being a source pectively by him while acting or purpor­ of reVenue. So, both sides have weighty ting to act in the di'icharge of his offici'll arlUJllents, What I can say at the moment or judicial dUlY or function. It is also is that I will weight both sides of the argu. proposed that this would not debar or ments before I come to any conclusion, prevent the president or the Central or State Government or the High Court or With these words I thank the hon. any other appropriate authority as may he Members very much for their valuable prescribed by any Jaw to take such civil, suggestions. crimlOal or departm:ntal action agaif1~t a Judge as may b~ considered appro­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we priate. 10 to next item. The main difference bet\\een the existing proviSIOn" and the propo~d provisions JUDGES (PROTECTION) BILL relating to protection of Judicial officers are that: [Eng/ishj THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (i) the proposed provision would con­ THE MINlSTRY OF LAW AND JUS. fer immuOity not onJy i1l civil TICE (SHRI H. R BHARADWAJ): Sir, action or proceedmgs, but also 10 I beg to move : criminal aCllon or proceedmgq;

"That the Bill for securing additional (iI) immunity would be av~i1able even protection for judges and others after the pCfsoh ha~ cedsed to be acting judicially and "r matters a Judge; and connected therewith, be taken into consideration" (iii) the requirement of good faith is not required to be met for confer­ The hon. Members are aware that the ring the immunity. Judicial officers ProtectIon Act, 1850 as it exhts at pre'ient provides that no Judge, I am confidt nt that the whole House M~lgistrate, of Justice the Peace. Cdllf"ctor would support this Bill. or other person acting judiciqlfy shall be liable to be sued in any Civil Court for Sir. I may also add that the proviqjons any act done or ordered 10 be done by in the present Bill are based 0'1 the t 04th him in the discharge (t( his judid.tl duty, Report of the Law Cummilision \\'here whether or not within th~ timits of his these rccommendationt; were made and jurisdiction provided that he at t he time. they were pendin~ for a fong time. We in good faith, helieved him~cl( to have arc trying to implement them in this jurisdjction to do or order the act com· Bill. . plained of; and no officer of any Court or other person, bound to executo the lawful SARI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har.. warrants or orden of any suct Judge, bour): You COuld have mentioned it in Msgisttate, Justice of the Peace. Collector the Statement of Objects and Reasons 34~ Judges (~rotedl(m) B11J BHADRA I, 190,7 (SAKA) ~tld,es (Protection) Bill 346

~ SHRI H, R. BHARADWAJ: It i~ not of Objects and Reasons that it allo relates there in the 'Statement of Ohjects and Rea .. to those who are not officially designated sons, as Judges,

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion Now. Sir. the main Clause that has moved: been introduced is Clause 3. I may be permiU("d to submit that there are some "That the Bill for ~ecuring additional grammatical variations in the cOgnAte ex .. protection (or Jud~es and others acting .pressions that were introduced in thi::5 judicially and for matters conne<:ted there­ CJ~u5e itself. This Clause says ;- with, be taken into consideration." UNotwithstanding anything contained Now, the time allotted is only one hour. in any other la.. for tbe time I request hon, Membels to be brief. being in force and subject to the Shri H ..\. Dora. provisions of sub·section (2), no court shaH entertain or conti. SHRt H,A. DORA (Srikakulam): nue any civil or criminal proceod­ Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. while welcom. ings ~gainst any person who is ing this Bill in so far as' it relates to the or was a Judge, for any act, Judges officially designated as such; so thing or word committed, done far as it relates to the' perons who are or spoken hy him when, or in the flOW made as Judges by virtue of the course of, actmg or purp')rting provisions of this particular' iegislation, to act in the discharge' of his I am opposing it. official or judicial duty or function. " SIr, I may be permitted to submit that this is a Bill for securing additional pro­ J-kre, there is a deeper meaning than tection for Judges. And t hen it says the apparent one. I would like to sub­ others acting judiciallY and for 'and mit and clanfy as to the deeper meaning matters connected therewith', t herein. Here, 'duty' is a word which i'-l tel med as a noun. it is qU:1Jified by two So, Sir. this is a Bill inttmded nOt only adjcclives, 'official or jUJicial't. This for the Ju iges (who are officially design.!t~ noun is qualified by an adjective 'official' ed 8-; such) but olso fOr those who af!! and also another adjc:ctive ·judicial. So, not so officially designated as slIch. this Act applies not only to the judicial duties !hat b~ve heen discharged by the The Statement of Objects and Reasons Judges officially deSignated as such, but appears to be very aHractivc. But it has also hi~ official duties. It rerer~ not only got deeper meaning than the a.poarent to judk.J duties, but Jt also refers to one. I may be permitted to read out offi~ial dt fit S. this portion, I quote :-

Now, a j'J~Jl.!e is defined in c1ause 2 of "Judiciary is 'one of the main pilfars this particul.l1' Bill as follows :- of parliamentary democracy as envisaged by the C'enstitution. It ·'10 this At't, "Ju,'ge" mean"! not only is essential to provide for nil im­ every person who is officially munities ~ecessary to enable designated as a Judge, but als() Judges to act fearlessly and im­ every person- par tially in the discharge of their judicial duties, It wi1J be difficult (a) who is empowered by law for the" Judges to function if their to give in any legal pro­ actions in court are made subject ceeding .... .''' to legal proceedings, either civil Qr criminal." It is not stated therein as a 'judicial proceeding', Even an executive Magis­ It is nowhere stated in the Statement trate, a Deputy Tehsildar,. who is em~ 347 Judg'$ (Protection) Bill AUGUST 23, 1985 Judges (Prolecllqn) Bill 348 ,

[Shri H.A. Dora] MR. DBPUTY.SPEAKER: ODO pow~red to discharge the functions of an minute more, and try to complete it. executive magistrate, a tehsildar who is empowered as an execative maaistr ate SHRI H.A. DORA: Executive officers, under the Criminal Procedure Code. parti­ even the D~puty Tabsildars, as I have cularly in relation to Section 107 Cr. already stated, are now elevated to tbe P.C., the executive' rugistrates are em­ post of justice by virtue of this particular powered to dischargo legal proceedings, Act. Therefore, what I would like to those which. ate not ltrictJy cal led as submit iCJ ahe lelal pr9(:eeciinss and official judicial proce~inpf they are also pro.. duties should not be clubbed alona with tccted under this p.tttcu)at Act. There­ the judicial fuDctions. fore, what 1 .oukl like to submit is, the fir.t thing that .. to be seen in this parti­ MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: Shri Shanta.. cular u~r is wat the in~ividual dignity ram Naik. I will give only five minutes for is expOied to _nirelt peril. If the acts you. For' the person who initiated the or thote ~tI()M IJ'e saf~guarded by virtue discussion I gave ten minutes. For all ..df the ptovttiOM or this Act ••• olhers only five minutell each • tjnterruptlons). SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panajl) ~ 11 is a welcom~ thing that tbe hOD. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: Please Minister has considered to bring this. Bill conclude. in order· to give protection to the judges." I would like to make a few observations SHRI H .A. DORA I may be per.. and give suggestions which the hone mitted more lime. Minister may kindly take note of."

MR. DEPlITY-SPEAKER I cannot MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Definitely give you more time. he will. Don't worry.

SHRI H.A. DORA: I may be given SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Sir the some more time. Let me complete the question is, first of all, I have not seen argument aod ~xp]ain the inherent weak­ any legislation where this protection ;s nesses in the Bill. not afforded to judges. You tried to make some distinction here, but I could not follow that distinction clearly. Here it is stated that no coptt shall In other words, every piece of legislation entertain or continue any civil or criminal proceeding· pending in the courts, they contains this provision. Otherwise it means that only today when we pass this shaH be now taken away from' the file. Bill we give protection 10 -judges and I am not bothered about it. What about previously they could be prosecuted under the! future course of action so far as this v~rious Jaws for discharaing their duty as ~~ticuJar clause is concerned? The ex­ prcS$ion is ·word, committ~d. done or judicial officers. I don't think it ia the spoke. by him __ in the discharge of his c'sc. ~()fficial du(y'-here the relative pronoun Is there. 'While discharging hiS official Secondly Sir, in the preamble to tho dutY'-~uppose the word used is 'bastard'. BiU, the wordiogs which are used are : suppose the execJltive magistrate says "for securing additional protectiOn for that 'you are a bastard'. A person who judges and others actina judicially". I is tbere before him, if he says that he is think these wordings do not Ot in legisla­ a bastard, he is protected under the law. tive draftin8. There is some sort of a -Therefore, my submission , the iDdivi­ W~ODg cODstruction of this sentencet ,dual dignity is exposed to mqifest peri) Actually what should have been there is py ~ntroducing this particular Bi 11, and this. "For securins additional protection .1:1at apart. J may be permitted to say for judges and persons dischargiDI judi. io~thiD' and glOSf it cial functions" instead of aayina "and '349 Judg,a (Pl'otlrti()n) Bill BHADRA J. 1907 (SAKA) Judges ("roteclion) Bill 350

. ethers acting judicially·" it should be, judicial offi.:ers are concerned. I reoom .. "and pertfons dilliltrging judicia" fune­ mend that compulsory impri~onmeDt • . ltions", The5e wording~, I $.uppose, arc should be provided for. 'not pr("~r in that line You may please consider this su~ge8tion, Lastly. each judicial officer, right (rom the junior judge should be provided with Thirdly, these are aU piecemeal legisla­ cars to go to their houses and come to' tions, I don't think why a consolidated the courts, They should also be provided legislation could not be brought covering with servaD~ at their residence, becaus: various aspects of judges, Yesterday we they should not be made to run after their discussed a Jegi"lation or two or three personal work, thereby endangering safety lines saying about the number of judges, to their Jives, This sort of ancillary Should we have one legislation ('nly to things which are required should be given specify the numt-er of judges? This is to them. Only then can we say that we something which is not understood, have reaJJy given th~m protection, Dot Matters connected with judges should be merely Sivlng prOlectaon in the literal sense covered in one conCiolidated legislation, or the term, Protection. number of judges, everything could have been brought in one legislation. SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har­ We brought a legislation only to raise the b0ur): Mr, Deputy Speaker. Sir, I nurn ber of judges from 1 7 to 2S. These expected that the Mlllister while intro­ things tak~ a lot "'of time of the House. ducing the BiH will at least be able to eXJ')lain to us what is the purp0se of .. I will give some more examples of brioging forward this Bill, The purpose piecemeal legislations, I have seen so which is stated here does not expJalD any­ many legislations wherein different aspects thing at all. There is already protection of the same subject are there. • For for judges, Wha t Was the occasion fot instance: Village Panchayat Chairman bringing forward this Bdl. In the Lona Qualification Rules, tlnther set is Village Title it is said, -'fot securing additional Panchayat Chairman disqualificatioll protection for judg\':s and others acting Rules, Village Panchayat Chairman Con­ judicially" Why thiS additional protec .. fidence Rules, Village Panchayat Chair­ tion was thopght to be necessary 1 man no confidence Rules These are examples of disintegrated Dieces of legisla­ Now, in the course of his introductory tions. \Ve should have brought one .plece speech the Minister has said that this is of legislation at one place. In fact, we in pursuance of I 04th Report of the Law shou'd have a two t ier ~ystcm - one Act Commission, But there is no mention and one set of rules-in all the legislations about it in the Statement of Objects and that "e bring before this House. Reasons. If it had been mentioned, then one could have known what was the c;ir, . providing only 8 sort of literary reason which impelled the Law Commis. protecfion to jud~eCi win not do. They sion to ask for the passing of such a require ~ome rhyo.;;cal 'protection at<;o, We legislation, Obviouc;ly the learned Minist~r \ have got certain provi~i(lns in penal code has not acquainted himself with these that in respect of hurt nnd grievoll~ hurt re»8sons, committed atzainst n judge the person con .. cerned will be prosecuted under a penal code, That being so wha t I object to here Is A~ far as offences like hurt. grievous hurt the enlargement of the definition of committed agAinst the judicial officers are judges, The category of persons who can concerned, there slleuld be some special DOrN claim privilege under this Rill are I 'Provisl0nQ, For these offences ·we should not bnb those to whom we traditlonal1y bave plmi!ihment in exceS!! of what is pro- • regarded as judges. name'y, those sitting vid~d for in Indian Penal Code and they in Civil and Criminal courts but any pet.. should be made compulsory. For instance, son who is conducting legal proceedings in every place we hav~ got imprisonment even though he may not. be a judge in the and tine. As far as ofl'eJlces aQsinst normal sense of the word ye~ he gets (his 351 J"d6ts (Protection) Bill AUGUST 23, 1985 Judges (ProrecticJfl) Bill 352

[Sbri Amll Dutta] cial officers. These officers. when they immunity and this is very bad. This functlon as judicial .. _cers, have to be immunity sho IJ not be giv«;n and parti­ protected. I tbioS this BIU is only aimed~,~ cularly not only when acting in judicial at giving due protection to the judicial capacity but also acting in his official performance of these Executive Officers. capacity and not only in the decision that be gives but the act he does or the words Sir, often wo are talking about the that he speaks in the course of those independence of judiciary. Ours is tbe procedi'ng.. This should not be there. blggeet democratic country in the world SUPPo3ing a person is going throLigh ao.1 we have faced many acid te.!tts and Je~aJ pro.;e,:dingi and then som~thing w~ were able to withstand these acid teslS happens and tbe offi';lal catches hi n by becaus~ there is aD indepel:ldent judiciary. the neck ~tld throws him out There Sometimes we have pJsed a question to will be no redreSi for it because of the ourselves whether there IS an attempt to Bill which we are going to pass You have a committed jUdICI8IY. Sir, lpoking can immune tho d::ci ,hn hut why for acts into the polltif;al p cture of oar country, done during the COU!"sr! of proc~edings there are judges who h .. \e later taken to and durin:! the course of hi5 dury. poL tical activities and th~re dre polilkians who have ~com~ judg~~ So, when you Sir, once I did a case where the Mdgi­ look into this background, it is quite strate had kickej a p;!rson who was ob­ natural that we think of committed jUdi­ structing his way. FOr that it wal) ciary. Everybody in this country will necessary to get the sanction of the agree that there cannot ba committed Government to in"ililut;! crimin:lI pro· judiciary. 1 he judiciary hdS to be iode .. ceedlngs again::,t hIm pro lided he does it p~ndent. That is why when judges dTe in the course of his offi:,a) duty, The appointed. there is a consullation b~t ween question that ( raised wa!t thac when he the Chief Justice, the Chief Minister of was going down the stairs he was nut the State concerned and only after having performing his ofiLial duty. some kind of underst"nding between the Chife MiDlster and the Chief justice of But this W':lS not upheld by the Court, the High Court that the dcri'ion is taken. the concern.!d Disi( iet Judge or the H'I~tl Hut in SOme States, there have been Court Judge. Now, the mogislrate going instances when separate lists were sent. down from his chamber to get inlo his So, keeping all these things in vle.w, we car is supposed to be working ID offlcl~J hav~ to look at the judiciary. In· this capacity and therefore he can kick any­ connection, I would like to quote the body and he kicked a person and nothing statement of Mohan KumaraOlangalam could be done against him. This is the who said: kind of immunity which you are giving to these people. In the course of the official duty. they can do anything and '~lt is entirely within tbe discretion of everything. So anything and everything the Government of the day to to do against a person is allowed here appoint persons considered in its and he enjoys the immunity. So. SIr, eyes the most suitable as having this is not going to serve the purpose and the most suitable philosopby to it is not going to make the judiciary a occupy the highest judicial office stronger pillar of the Constitution. Thank in tbe country." you. Every Government bas Jot a political PROF. K.V. THOMAS (Ernakulalll): leniency. When the Government takes Sir, I support this Bill because tbe pur­ aDY decis.ion regardiQl judiciary, it should pose of this Bill is to give protect}on to always be careful aDd its attitude should the Executive Officers who have to, some­ be above suspician, as there is the sayiBg time, perform their duty as judicial tbat "Caesar·s wife should be above officers. Sir, you know that the District suspicion't. We should make all eliort. Collector, the R~D .0, and Tehsildars to see that tbe . illdependence of tbe sometimes have to do their duty as judi- judiciary is maintained at all cow, 353 Judges (Protection) Bill BHADRA 1, 1907 r~AKA) Jud,ea (Protection) Bill 354

because any suspicion ag;tinst' the judi­ We have seen that the Kerala High ciary will hamper our de1l) oc racy • Caul t in the last two or thr~ months SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mave­ • ha~ puni~hed certam weeklies who wrote likara): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, this so,nething again"t the judgements of the BiB seeks to give mork immunity to High Court. They invoked the provi. judges and a]so certain other persons sions of contempt of court against them acting judicially. and fhey were punjs~e(r. Even a practis.. ing advoc.lte in the court Wd.S punished In this context, may I "rlng to the yestclday ; I read that in the newspa.per. notice of the House the criticism made He wrote an article JO a weekly criticisins by certain retired Supreme Court J udgr~ somethillg. The court IS very vigilant to including Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer ? invoke their aUlhority, invoke the con­ Whlle speaking recently on the ocassion tempt of the COUrt prov16ions, and pUnlsb of centenary celebrations of the Kerata tbose who criticise them. High Court, he said thlt the judicial system in our country was deteriorating. In the light or this, tbe Government Also, the investigative writer, Shri Arun will have to thlDk, how much immunity ShOUrlC in his publication, Second R:!Ign will have to be given to the judges, and of Mrs. Garldhi, has devoted a full how the independi:nce of the judi~j4r y chapter to deterioration in judiciary. I will have to be maintained. am bringing .. this to the notice of the Government that while the OoverJ1ment I would suggest that we must f urmulate is proposing to give more immunity and a code of conduct for the bar and the more privileges to the judges, it should budges. pay proper attontion to the independence of the judiciary. I am not against giving Now, what is the cuterion for appoint­ protection, giving immunities to the ment of judges 1 An advocdte is appointed judg~s, but at the same time there should as a judge of the High Court ; the be ah evaluation of the concept of inde­ advocate has to be of a certain standing pendence or. judiciary I and they them­ at the bar. I know that an adocate, who selves should also be able to maintain has got good income by hilt pr41ctice would Ule independence and dignity of the not accep t the office of the High Court judiciary. judge only for the sake of money. ,He accepts it only because he has already Recently. I have seen in certain cases made sufficient money through his how the functionjng ot the judiciary is profession, and he wants to accept it going on. Using the immunity of this just to acquire a positlOD, because thill) is House, I do not want to make much considered a very high pOSition. This of criticism of the judicjary here but at will help him in the marriage of his the same time, I would like to point out children etc. He, therefore, accepts the that !he!'e is no system, there is no office. OtherWise, from the point of view code of condnct betw:!en the bar and of monetary gdln, he may not agree. He the bench in tlJe matter of practising accepts it b~cause of political and other: before ,I tbe Supreme Court, High considerations Perhaps he may not be Courts and the lower courts. acceptable to the Bar or the Bench. Practially, we find that certain judges So, in this regard my suggestion is to have their own relations, brothers and have judicial services in India just like others, practising in the same court. the Indian Administrative Service and And when such a thing happens, natu .. other Services for which we are selecting rally the people who approach the COurt the people. So, to manage tbe courts, to have apprehensions. Such a situation is have a judiCial service and to have the bound to create apprehensions in the judges got appointed on the basis of minds of the clients. It is likeJ)' to their merit and their' credit aDd lead to soft approaches in certain cases. their contributions to the judiciar, Shri Arun Shourie, in bis boole, Second would be much better rather than Reifn QJ' Mrs. Gandhi has liven clev­ to appoint them on the basis of cut examples in the relevant chapter. satisfaction of a particular authority and 355 Judges (P,otecllon) Bill AUGUST 23, 1'985 JudgeJ (P,otectlon) Bill 3S6

[Shrl Thampan Thomas] .iud~es wh'o lose their temper. What to live it to certatn sections alone . So should we de 1 If a man gets angry forno in the overall, when I have to say 'some: reason and purrose, what should be done? thing about this Bill, I have to by that The counsel goes on citing rulings and a look at our overall judicia-l system is asks the judge to hear him and the judge neccesary at the present context and in says: "No, no. I do not want to hear. the light 'or that only immunities and I have already made up my mind." The will have to be given. It is stated here in counsel wants his argument to be heard. this Bill that it is to give freedom and But the judge does not listen. I have not immunity arid also to build up a system followed as to why this protection has on the basis of democr~tic principles, been given to the judges. etc. Clause 2 say. that the Central Government or the State. Government SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA (Pon­ have the power to take action against Dani) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there judicia? By retaining that clause, what can be no two opinions about the laudable immuDlty are you giving? Nothing. objective mentioned in this Statement of • Then, what are you doing ? You are Aims and Objects, Nobody can ever bringing tbe Tahsildars, the Executive question the need to grant necessary Officers, and the Collectors who are at immunity and protection to judges in the beck and ca)) and call of those discharge of their functions. The entire people under this 'Immunity', Therefore question arises because the definition of I plead that it is not fair. This Bill ha~ the term 'judge' as has "already been to be opposed. pointed, is widened. It is widened to include such pubHc servants who may be [Translation] required to act judicially and to give some definitive judgement. My point is SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (PaJi) : that, when a particular public ser.vant is Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I have not been required to act judicially, he is required able to understand one thing. J had to give a definitive judgement, He is heard and also read in the newspaper therefore calJed a judge, tbat a judge misused his chamber. [English] Now, in keeping with the terminology, that you extend to him and call him a Whil~ performing his duty he committed judge, in view of the fact that he is rape, He called his counsel saying that acting judiciaJIy. it would be wrong to he wanted to ascertain somethin~ and subject him to any departmental act ion he committed then this crime, Artkle 14 by, the Government He is "acting judi­ says that a11 men are equal before the ciaUy and so long as he is acting judi­ Law. When he goes for a. morning walk cially. it is against the very spirit of the he given police officer, T do noi is not a Constitution that he should be made understand why this lel!isJation is required. subject to departmental inquiry for When a man whiJe performing his duties anything said or done by him during misbehaves, he can be prosecuted under that particular process, Therefore. in the lPC, 1 do not understand why he keeping with other judges. civil and should be given protection. criminal proceedings may be instftuted by him or a person may with the sanction In the viJIages 1n the Mun~if Courts of the Government institute any civil or villagers sometimes ·do not know how t~ criminal proceedings against him. Then, give their s1atementc; and they spe"lk in a this reserving or retaining the part of the Iftnguage which the judge cannot follow, departmental inquiry. even against a Then the judge says : ,public servant at a time when he is acting judicial1y for -the purpose of definitive rTranslation] judgement undermines the very concept Ass. An ass is speaking. of the judiciaJ system that we have under the Constitution. Therefore, I ha\'e come [Fnglish] before this House with· the amendment He abuses the people, Then, there· 8re to delete this power of departmental in- 357 ludgts (Protection) Bill BHADkA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Judges (Protection) Bill 3Si quiry against such persons. It is necessary that these ideas are duly incorporated in the Bill through tho The second point whicb I have to make amendments that 1 propose to mako. i. that there are enougb laws at present Otherwise. the Bill has to be opposed. wh:ch sive due protection and immunities to the judges. for eltample, We have [Trans/ation] Section 1 97 of the Code of Criminal DR. G. S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur) : Proceduro Act, 1973 in regard to this Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support this subject. W~ also have Section 77 of the bill and in this connection 1 would draw Indian Penal Code dealing with tbis your attention to J1 few things. subject. We also bave tbe Judicial -bffi~rs Protection Act. Now, in pur.. • I would like to relate an actual incident. suanee all the provisions' mentioned here. In some State, some judges kept their sons at least tbree statutes show that there is with them because they had been practising what is ca1ted the.need for the persons in the court. When the newspapers acting judicially to act is good faitb. It brought this fact to ligh:, the judges, in is absolutely necessary that any person collusion with the Jawyes. ruined the te­ discharging his duties should discharge porter. the editor and the publisher of that them in good faith. Otherwise immunity newspaper. None of these persons could degenerate into a lic!\:nce ? But here is the live in peace until these Judges were trans .. Bill in which this requirement of good ferred from there. Wbat method did the faith has been totally deleted and the judges adopt to harass them? Whenever hon. Manister bas been very true to a date for the hearing was fixed it was the House in pointing out in his speech postponed on one pretext or the other. while piloting the Bill tbat this require­ So, Sir, I would say tbat tbe judges should rrent of good faith has been omitted. I be given immunity so that they can work therefore have another Amendment to say fearlessly but all tbe same, the newspapers that the acts done by bim should be who may bring the above type of cases to in good faith. .. light may also be given immunity so that they too can report such matters fearlessly. Immunity should be provided not ooly to Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we need not the judges but also to tbe fourth estate­ be afraid that this would mean a plethora the press-so that they can work fear.. of prosecutions, challenging the good lessly faith of our judges and others acting judiciaJly. Here it is untenable because the Ja\\ s today stand for prosecution of Secondly, I would request you to provide judges, ~nd the necessary sanction is physical protection to judges. It is a needed from the Government, as I have practical suaestloo. Today, what ia bap­ pointed out under Section 197 (Cr. P.C.) pening jn Bihar? The judlcs baiJ out tbe Therefore such apprehensions need not· crimillals in no time. Wilen I asked them be there. 'rhi' condition for actina in why they did so, they asked promptly what good faith is absolutely necessaty becauso sort of protecflon they themselves had we must have a judicious balanco between when the crimlDals could kill them any immunities and tbe nccossary reatrictioni time. Tbey further said tbat of coursc. that should be there. Finally. I will tbJlt day they might be in service but when conclUde by saying that it is necessary, in they retired the cnmmals ri would kill them the interests of the Judiciary itself, that within no time. Therefore, I would lub­ this need for ,ood Caith or proteCtion mit that besides giving them immunity. against anything done mala /ide by any they should be provided wfth pbysical perSOD actina as judiciary is maintained protectioJl also. because, if it is maintained, it will create a greater confidence in our judicial Today, the pligbt of the judges is miser­ system. Therefore, I submit tbat it i. " able. In small towns, tbe judps 10 to important to bave confidence in Judaea• office on foot while others travel by car. as elso in tho system UDder w,hich they Tho judges should let" salary accordiQi to djapenlO justice. their 5tatul sO that tbe), lDay maintain a 3'~ .1ud6~s (Protecllon) Bill AUGUS1' 23, 19.85 Judges (ProtecJiolt) Bill 360 lDr. O. S. Rajhan8] ~obody can deny in this country tHat the freedom of the Press s~rves the society reasonable standard or living in ~ociety~ To conclude, I would once alain s'!y what to great extent. In some of the cases. I the judges should be given immunity but bad defended tire Press where they were those who report about tbem should also to be gagged. But we had succeeded always. You will remember that no jUdlJe be given immunity I has been able to .convict a member of the With these words I conclude. Press so far on a wrongful charlc. This is the success of the system; this is the .[Englllhl sucten of all of us who participate;n the THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE system. But "do you deny this aSf'ect ? MINISTRY OF. L"W AND JUSTICE One of the important editors was prq, (SHRt H.R. • BHARADWA ,): At the secuted in the. Supreme Court fo" con­ outset. I must thank the hone Memhers tempt because he wrote certain things for making certain valuable suggestions. I saying that judge's~ relations were praclis .. finally concede, as I did in my opening ing (he court; and it is- the judges them­ remarks, tfiat we ere making a little selves who said, nothing doing; we will deviation in the matter of .goc>d faith. 1 ignore it in view of the 'Sincerity of the know that there are occasions when there man concerned; 'it had no merit. is tension between a Judge and a Counsel. The ingredient Qf malice was nnt 1 have practised law for 20 or 25 years there. Therefore: there was no COIl­ or more. I have had an occasion when tempt. There were matlers in so many the Judge seriously differed with me. He impor:tant trials where counsels outstrip­ even went to the extent of tell ins me that ped their jurisdiction and told a judges my argument WAS nonsense. Btlt ynll that he. had a dinner at somebody's wiIJ a"preciate thet when we enter a noble house; therefore, he should not try it. profession, a profession where nobility Under the normal laws of contempt, it must prevail, we also simultaneously . WQuld have been a contempt straightway that a judicial officer wIth an the rest· and nobody could save the counsel. But raints. with all the trAining, sometimes. the court said, no, we were all part of the due to certain circumstance~, > may say same system; we will j~nore this. So, you something which he shouM not say. J will appreciafe the idea here If during the am harpy that a normal concern a~out arguments certain things w~re ;,aid with the protection t" judge is thrre unanimo out malice and if the judge and a counsel usly in every memher's mind Rut the and other concerned persons discussed question is when a judge is occupvi"g his those things:cases should not go outSIde ~ chair and the counll\el is addres .. ing SO'l'le­ the court. . . argumentlll, or a litigant i~ adjr'sc;ing ~ome argument, normally, it is ve,"y difficnh to , . In this House, some vert impOrtant say that there is a comolete unanimity member~ made points which were con- fhe two. There are momenlS of ht'art, • trover ted from the otherside. That does there ~re momef'ts of l"xchanges which not .me~\O that we should fit' cases against are normally ignored Whf>n we counsel.;; each Qther. The immunily is provided are ar~l1in[l against each otherr. if 'YOU see here. The law Commissi-on in. 104 th you w'n fird that we took like "worn Report had grnc into 'his. 1 'am son,'. ~nemieeCi of eflch ot})er But .the moment this aspect was not elabora ted in the aims when we come (lut of fhr court ·room and and obj~cts in the Jegislatur~ or elsewhere. take coffeoe together, \\ c forget everyfhj"s. this could hav(' been highlighted. If you becau~e fhl:' ht"rtt is , .. rt t~e cnurt rC'om, permit me, r wouJd just read what the "ecause nwill he difficult (or the syc;tf'm Law Commission recommended. Exactly, to sustain If \\ e nOle down Ihat n p:1r" the same prl)vision has been incorporated. ticular judp.;(" s',id thi~ omervation and he Th: Law Commission said something i. g~ing against me, it is the duty of the abollt it in parn 10.3. The provj~iolJs in counsel to perst1lJde him and correct it. the Act for the protection of judges If ynu find that he is not proceeding on . should be revived as under and then he the lines which" are the law qf the 'and, had Quoted. Similarly, he wanted that it is there where our assistance is needed. the definition of tbe j~tlp should be 361 ludtes (protection) Bi}t BIiADRA J. ~907 (SAKA) Judges (holmlon) Bill 362 elaborated and the Law Commissio8 in we 80 to the normal nomenclature. we the 104th R.epo~t. para S.2 said as bav,e to give h i.m some pro It'CtiOD. followl : ~n in part (b) of the said Clause (2), "Justice should ap;ropriately be it is said- defined ill Indj~n Penal Code . by Section 1'2 of the IPC'· "2(1.1) who 'is one of a body of per­ sons which persons body;.y, of is • The word 'judge' has been given the empowered by law to . give following mean-ing and then the whole such a judgment as is referred definition is reproduced and 1hereafter to in .c1ause (a )_" they said, we bad recommended that this very definition ~houtd be incorporated in .... I do not thitlk that .his is any anomaly, the Jl1d~es Protection Act So some .. much less, depriving a person whom you thin~ 19 there. • "Now, what iii the' defini­ put as a judge EVfl1 an arbitrator or a tion thal has been provided? I will just M.idstrafe. is rUnclioning as a judge, even read briefly for ,our bene6t. It read as foHows : 'hougb he is not a judge But we give him limited protection. For the purpoiC of those proceedings he holds a civil court "In this Act, "Judge" means not and whom you deleglte to "e a judge, to only every person who jlOi adjudicate upon n1auers, he has to be officially designated as a given «Jme protectIOn. If you do not .fudge •••.•. t9 give him this rrotecllon, it is not (air.

Normally people think that on'v a judge III Then lhere waCl some conttoversy about who ~its a~ a sub.juc1ge <'f a magistrate the official and JudI-cIa' functions. Bar­ or t!Yen a maghtr~te people ('onfu'Ie that he is not a judge. ritftr Datta knows it,

J am reading Oause 2 of the am : SHRI AMAL DATTA: The question , 'S, there are judicial duties in the court.. " How do you say it is the same as official I 2. I am thllOi Act. hJudge" means not on ly every pers6n who i~ duty' ~fficially designa1ed as a Judge. but also every person-- SHRI H,R. BHARADWAJ: I am coming to it. Volt wanted only the judicial duty (A) who is empow~rf'd by Jaw to be protected. Suppose, you are a11 to give in any 'ega' proceed­ administratIve Judge. you are writing the ing a definitive judgment, or reports on at! those judges, If there is a a judgment which, if not ~orrupt jurl !.!e , you wr(te that he is a appealed against, would be corrupt judge, Then, he flfes a ,suit definitive. or a judgment against you. sbying that "You held me which, if confilmed by some courrupt, you must come to the court." , other authol ity, would be defi niti ve; 01·· Then, how w;J1 you perform }our What is wrong with tbis definition? duties as an administrative judge? Every When y<"'u decide about the rights of the Judge bas to do both tbe judici'81 and peorle in the 'Society, you mu~t give It adminiStrative duties. Even functioninl person how ha, to 1\~jl'dfcate en 'On the adminhitrative slde you have to be this"· 1:\nd t'he PCl'Sl' n "h(\ adjudic1,\tes pratec1ed. Thi~ is the question which is deemed (0 be Q judge, This bas been fOIle into in all these issues and is tbt norm~l jurisl'rudence tltat when he is funetioning administratively, when sormbtrdy is appointed to a pIlrti. he is not functioning judiciaJJy~ But h~ cu'at pJ8~ he jUdges· tbe l~sue, eYeb. if deserves to be protected.. 363 Judges (Prot~cllon) Bill AUOUST 23, 1985 Judges (Prot~ctlon) Bill 364

SHRI ANAL DATTA: How is a The question is : Secretary in tbe Government protected? In administralion also perSODS are "That Clause 2 stand part or the BUt" writing reports about their subordinates. But tbose IObordinates ("aODot 80 to the T/w 1fIoIlOn was adopted. court and held them responsi ble, Clause 2 WQ.f added to Ihe Bill.

SHRI HR. BHARADWAJ: I tell MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: Now. to you lbat for the judiciary we are grVIng Clause 3 there are amendments, by this protection. When the), are funetioD­ Shri iJhoJanatl'l Sen and Shri ,Ban at walla. ing, they have to do their duty fearlessly. Are yOu moving ? I am only definioa 'judicial' and 'official'. You said tbat there is an official duty of Clause 3-Additlonal Profertion 10 Ju~e$ an administrative judge. It;s far more difficult than a judicial judge because he SHRI BHOLANATH SEN (Calcutta decides and writes' reports OD- other South): I beg to lD(We- brother judges. There are very impor­ tant aod other aspects are also to be Page 1,-. decided by.the judges. He is writing about the outsiders. In the contempt after line 20, insert- of court issue, it has been dea.ded that contempt is both for the judiciaXlunctions '·(IA). No officer or employee of the as well as for the administrative functions. Central Government or the That Orrissa case decided that even if you State Government shall make say something against the a1mioistrative adverse comments against a action of the High Court it is contempt of Judge for any act, thing or court. There is absolutely no anomaly. word committed, done or spo. But this is only a small thiog ken by him when, or in the course of, acting or purporting CODsiderinl the tensions of 1ife, the to act in the discharge of his judges, aa we hold them in high esteem,. official or judica} duty or bould be given protection. The society functions. ... sustained these tensions. I have sub­ .atted that there was an apprehension (lB). In the event of any 'breach of ftpressed in the Press and other places. tbe provisions of sub section No jour..... has so far been convicted ( 1 A) the officer or employee by aoy J-.e _n though be has written concerned shall be liable to somethiDI ,,*h was not consistent with such disciplinary action as may the di&nity of tbe court. Famous cases be prescribed by rules made are known to ever) body. l only request under this Act". (1) hOD. the Me.bets, to appreciate tbis. Page 2,- MR. DE~UTy .. SPEAKER The question is : 4}ter line 6, lnserl-

Wfbat tbe Bill for securing additional "Provided that if any officer or em­ pro'eclion for Judaes and others ployee of the Central Government acting judicially and for matters or the State Goveroment or the ~ODnected therewith. be taken Supreme Court of I ndia or any into coDsideratioD." public (lodertakiD, criticises any act, thins" or word committed, I The motion was adopted. dooe or spoken by a Judlo or any other person actin, judicially MR DEPUTY-SPBAKER : We shall in the course of aQtiol or purport. DOW take up Qau$o by Clause cooaidtra­ ing to ..ot in tho discbarae of his ,ion of tb, sm. )ftiQjal or judicial dUly or funcUon, 36S Judge, (Protection) Bill BHADRA t. 1907 (SAi(A) Judges (Protection) Bill 366

sllch ('\flicer or emplo)ee sh:'lll be are being lliven protection by this Bill. liable to disciplinary action as They will not be troubled for taking any may be prescribed by the Central bribe or for showing any favour to a Government under this Act," (2) citizen of this country. Judiciary does .not need any protection. There is no com­ plaint from the judiciary that they are SHRI G M. BANATWALLA (ron­ being harassed for their judicial work. Dani): I beg to move- It is the officials who are seeking "rotec.. tion because they are deciding evnyday a Page 1, line 20,- lot of important claims. It has been declared by the Supreme Court that every after '~act" insert "in good faith.... '. (3) taxing authority is doing quasi.judicial Pase I. line 20,- work. And always there is an appeal. If that is the position. why should they be add at the end-l prote,cted '1 Have they not lot enough work to extract money if they want to "e~cept with the previous sanction of do ? If there is a dis"'onest officer, he the Central Government or, aq the does it. And you are giving ~nother case may be; the State Govern­ protection to him that he cannot be sued ment." (4) civilly or criminally It is very peculiar that even if a crime is committed, the Page 2, line 5,- person a~8inst whom the crime is com­ mitred. cannot say anything. It is anti­ (or "civil, crimiminal. or departmental cipated that the officers will commit

proceedings or otherwise" crime, because civilly, criminally, departw mentally or otherwise these things can subs/; iule- be taken up by the cour's But a citizen cannot say that he has been blakma.iJed "civil or criminal proceedings". (5) that he has been allsessed wrongly, that the official wanted to take bribe from 14.'0 hrs. him and all that. Those who arc creating problems or grievances are being pro­ C;;HRI RHOLANATH SEN: This BiH ceeded against under Article 226 ,nd which is under the consideration of the people are moving the Supreme Court House speaks of civil or ~rjtnjnal pro. and the High Courts. But these people ceedings. I have vet to see any High are now being given protection. Clauses Court judge or any Supreme Court judge 2 and 3 will include statutory arbitration. being civilly or criminally proceeded If they talee bribe i cannot poSSibly do against or for that matter the District anything. Only the Supreme Court ~Jld Judge proceeded again'it for any judg­ High Courts can take civil or crIminal Of" ment 'hB\ i.8 bleD delivered in the course departmental proceededings against him. of his work a'i a judge But what is the Why should protection be given to him object? I find from the Statement of when I have a right under the law to go objectCJ 'and 'keasons that the object is to against him? Why should a citizen be keep the judIciary as the main plliar and deprived of his right under the law. keep it free from interference by the exe· Already because of concentratiOn of _greater cutive. What is happening is' that the power in .the hands of small men they are jpdlciary has the protection under the doing ac~ of dishonesty. Th is concentra· ConstItution and vat ious other laws. It tion or power should not be there. ThiS is the executive officers like Income.tax shou1d be reviewed and. they should be Officers, Cu~t()ms Offic~s, etc, who are open and subject to all proviSIons of I,,,, doing judicial work in the matter of which an ordinary man is liable to face assessment or in the matter of passing Therefore, I submit .that so far as th~ orders, who are being protected now. judiciary is concerned, there is DO pro- Those people who do the judicial work bJem. . though they are Dot empowered as judgcs~ I have seen in the newspapers and 00 .367' Judges (Protection) Bill AUGU5T l3, 1985 Judges (Protection) Bill 368

(Shri Bholana,th Sen] High Court wnen he passed an order televisroD that the officers are making a~ainst the Registrar. That came up grievances againit the High Court and before the Supreme Court and the the Supremo! Court judges or against Suprl.!me Court divided the duty saying judicial' system. Publicity is being given the Chief Justice is doing judicial work, as if they are the most honest men You and in the matter of appointment of the will be surprised 10 know that in Calcutta Rcgi~trar, he is doing the official work, there were over hundred conlempt of court cases against those very officers who But it was again under Article 226. are saying tbat the judiciary js creating \Vhere is the question of criminality ? problem in the matter of realisation of Has anybody ever complained ? Let the revenue. He is descnb..:d in the paper as Minister teU us that there has been a a lone crusher. Now, a lone crusader single case where a judicial officer has being an afficer here Mr. Deputy been ~ued civilly or.criminally for his Speaker Sir, they nre saying that the judgement. This BilJ is really not being judiciary should not be interfered with. considered seriously. It wiJI give a ~Iock Here is an officer of the ex.ecutive who to the ex¢culive officer. says 1hat he is the looe cr,usader and all the judiciary is wrong and whatever the SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : Mr. judiciary is doing, it is prey _nhng the Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have moved my State from realising the revenue, What amendments 3, 4 and 5. I have aJready is this ? There is DO protection for the· explained th;m adequately and there is judiciary. Judiciary ;s not being taken no need for me to make further sub· <;are of. That is why I have said that no missions. I request the House to accept officer or employee of the ("_.ent rat my amendments. Government or of the Slate Government s.hall make adwrse comments against a THE MINISTER OF LAW AND Judge for any act, I hing or word COUl­ JUSTI,CE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : My hon. mitted, doae or spoken by him when he friend Shri BholdI1ath Sen has said that was acting a§ a Judge. A civil case is Income-tax Officers and others are nothing compared to tb~ p Ibl icily of sought to be protected. The definition of adverse crIticism that is bemg given In a Judge IS the same as in the Indian the P~ess. An indivIdual may be sued in Penal Code and that has stood the test a civil court but the publicity is beiflg of time for judicial protection, This is given through the Press by an offic~r who is how the Indian Penal Code defines a an officer subordmate to the Ministry. He Judge. and the Law Commission itself gives a statement against the HIgh Court. quotes it in its Report where it seeks How will the rule of taw be upheld ? protection for the Judges. This is bow it We, in this country. are being governed is def)ned in Section 19 : tJy tbe rule of law and the Constitut ion 1 C:lD understand about judidary, but "The word 'Judge' denotes not only why c;houtd t~.ese officers be given all the every person who is officially designated benefits '1 I find in the Slatemc1t of as a Judge, but also every persoa- Objects and Reasons the word 'court' appears, but in the Bill itself the word (2) who is empowered by law to give 'court' does not appear. On the contrary. in any legal proceeding, civil or what appears is the description -of an e1CC· criminal, a definitive judgement, tutivc officer who has to decide. He also or a judgement whicn, if not becomes a jud6c but he does not bold a appeaJed against, would be defini­ court The description also creates a tive" or. it j'udgement which, if suspi~ion that it is a handwork of tbose confirmed by some otber authority "cople ; jt is an officers protection act. would be definitive; or Where is the question of official act of a Judge being subjected to civil or (b) who is one of a bo~y of persons criminal proceediQgs '7 Has tbere been wbleb- body. of persons is any '1 And if there was any, that was empowered by law to live sucb against the Chief Juslice of Calcutta a judgement." 369 Judge8 \Protectlon) Bill BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Judges (Protection) Bill 370

SH'tu AMAL DATTA: The words SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Tho ·civil or criminal' which you have just hon Minister has not opposed myamend­ read out, are not there jn the Act. ments 'I ask" the House to accept them.

SHRt A.K, SEN: Because we are MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER : I now siving them civil protection. put the Amendment Nos. 3. 4 aQd S moved by Shri G .M. Banatwalla to tho SHRI AMAL DATTA You are vote of the House giving protection to those also who are not Presiding Officers of a Civil or Cri­ Amendments Nos, 3, 4, 5 were put, minal court, you have omitted those and negatived ~ords, MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER : The ,ques .. SHRI A ,K, SEN: I have said 'legal tion is: proceedings, civil or criminal' .. "That Clause 3 stands part of the SHRI AMAL DATTA: No, it is not BiH." , there. You please see, The Motion was adopted. SHRI A.K. SEN: This is very clear. This does not include Customs Officers. Clause 3 WQS added to the Bill. I have seen this. MR, OEPUTY.. SPBAKER The You see the comma. This is very question is : clear. It says: '~That Clause 4 stands part of the "who is empowered by law to give Bill." in any Jegal proceeding a do. finite' judgment, or a judgment The Motion was adopted... which, if not appealed against, would be definitive ... etc .. Clause 4 was added to tire Bill.

Now, the L~w Commission has very MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER The clearly said that there have heen several question is : cases-and Mr. Bholanath Sen knows pos!,ibly -which arc slilJ pending cases "That Clause 1, Enacting Eorrnula and filed against judges in civil cOurts for Title stand part of tbe Bill." defamation and it is impossible for any judge to function if he is protected in The Motion was adopted. criminal court and not in the civil court. This was the lacuna which the Law. Com .. Clause 1 , Enacting Formula and mission pointed out. Therefore, we are Title were added to the Bill. seekins to remove this lacuna. SHRI H.R. BHARADWA]: Sir, I MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER Has Illove that the BiU be passed." Shri Bholanath Sen leave of tbe House to withdraw his amendment nos. 1 and 2 ? MR. DBPUTY.SPEPKER Tho question is : SEVERAL HON. MEMBBRS: Yes. "That the Bill be passed. tt Amendments Nos. 1 and 2 were, by leave, wltlulrwan The motion was adopted. MR DEPUTY.SPEAKER Sbri BaDat~alla , are you witbdrawiDI your MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKBR: Now wo Amendment? 80 to next item No. 24. , 371 Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bill AUGUST 23, t 985 E3tate Duty (Amdt.) Bill 372 14.13 m. , the Legislatures of at least two of· these States pass resoJutions under Article 252 [SHR! SHAIMl DIGHE in the Chair] of tbe Constitution adopting the proposal to discontinue· the levy Qf estat-e duty in ESTATE DUTY (AMENDMENT) respect of agricultural land situated in the BILL respective States, As stated in Para 88 of the Budget Speech, operation of tho [English] Estate Duty Act has led to procedutal THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND harassment to the heirs of the deceased. COMMERCE (SHRI VrSHWANATH While the yield from the estate duty has PRATAP SINGH): Sir, I beg to move: been low, it~ cost of administration has been relatively high. In our vie"" estate "That the Bill further to amend the duty has not achieved the twin objectives Estate Duty Act, 1953, be with which It was introduced. It is for taken into consideration," these reasons that we have now come up with this Bill. Sir, tbis short and simple Bill has been in of the announce ... introduced pursuance Sir. 1 trust that this short and simple made in the speech this year that ment Bill will receive the unaai mous support of the Government propose to the abolhh the House. levy of estate duty in respect of estates . passing on deaths occuring on or after MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: 16th March, 1985, "That the Bill further to amend the Clause 2 of the Bill seeks to insert in the Estate Duty Act, 1953, be Estate Duty Act' a new section 5 C which taken into consideration." provides that the Est:lte Duty Act shall cease to apply to the levy of estate duty [Tramlatioll] in respect of aoy property, other than agricultural Jnnd, which passes On the *SHRI p. APPALANARASIMHAM death of a~y person on or after the 16th (Aoakpalli): Mr, Chairman, Sir, the March, 1985. Estate Duty was introduced years ago by the Congress Party with a view to usher­ As regards lev)' of estate duty on agri­ ing in socialism. It was a wise decision eultural lands,. the hon, Members are on their part, They were really intere'it­ no doubt aware that tl1e E'state Duty· ed in socialistiC values, With the intro­ (Amendment) Act. 1984 sflught to dis­ duction of this Bill to abolish Esta:e continue levy of estate duty in respect of Duty the present C'ongl ess has abondoned agricultural lands. Act a result of the thejr goal of e~tablishing the ~ocialistic said Amendment Act. the Est"te Duty· pattern of the society in the country, Act, has' ceased to apply to the levy oC No, by introducing this Bill the present estate duty tn reo;;pel t of agricuhLlfaJ lands day Congress Party wants to help the situated in all the Union Territories Clnd rich people who have earned crores of all the StRles except Ihe Slates (If Andhra rupees and ar~ living a luxurious life. Pradesh, Karnat ka. M.ttl pur, ~8galand, Wh\':n this BIll IS passed, the GOvern­ Punjab and 1ripura 1 h6 L~gis'atures of ment will have no more and have any these six States are yet to pa",s enabling shnre in the wt.alth on the death of resolutions under Artidc 252 of the Con­ Estate holc.~s. The idea of imposing stitution adopting the proposal relating the duty on Estate was to get something to discnntinucnce of It''\ y of ec;tate duty in out of !hc property upon their death, so respect of agricultural lands It is pro­ that the m9hey thul collt!cted can be posed in due couro;e to introduce another spent by the State for the welfare of the Bill to provide for the abolitIon, with poor people, No this nobl~ cauc;e has ~ffect from the 16th March, 1985, of the been abondoned with the introduction of levy of estate duty in respect of agricul­ this BiH and hence vehemently oppose tural lands situated in these States afler this BiII. I want to say a few things in

*nre speech was originally delivered in T~Jugu. 373 Estale. Duty (Amdt.) BIU BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA). Estate Duty (Arndt.) Bill 374 this connection. Thcs Congress GOYl. continue with the Estate duty instead of time and again declare that they are abolishing it. wedded to socialism and arc workins in that direct iOD. On the one hand they Sir," I conclude tbanking you for Si,inl preach and the socialism on other they me the opportunity to speak •. act contrary to it. The earst while Coo­ sress wanted that in order to help the poor. certain \ portion of the property [English] should go to the State aloDS with the SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (JabaJpur) : herr when rich people die. This is the Sir. I whole heartedl), support the Estate

reason why Estate Duty was introduced. Duty (Amendment) BiJl 3 1985. I not But this Government Is dispensing away only support it, but I wholeheartedly with it. DiscJosing the intention of congratulate tbe bon. Finance Minister abolishing the Estate Duty, the hon. for keeping hjs promise And as per Finance Minister gave reason for doing the desire of the Government under the so in this budget speech during the last beloved Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv session. He said that the admimstrative Gandhi, the promisee; made in the Budget e"l"e~dlture has become more than col­ speech are being made a reality one by lection of Estate Duty. High expendi­ one as per the importance, and keepiog ture and low income was the reason he in view the harassment of the people gave; But, Sir, I do Dot agree with his involved in gelling a very insignificant vjew. Now there are many Govt. de­ revenue through this Estute Duty, the partments which are not doing well. abolition of this Estate Duty has been But these departments have not been brought in the shape of a Bill by' the wound UP. On the other hand, these hon. Finance Minister. establishments are being clubbed with other related estabJishrnents. For e!ltam· Now, l'he date from which this aboH­ pie, there used to be a conddctor in each tior) has been made effective is 16th bogey in our Railways earlier. Now March, 198 S. About that I wanted to there is only ODe' conductor wh& looks give a suggestion. As we all know, and after 4 bogies. That is how money is as the hon. Ftnance Minister has also being saved there. SimIlarly insread of said., administrative set up developed to abolishing the Estate DU1) cell, just realise this duty or the revenue from the because the cost of adminiitration ha\ public was costing more to the Govern­ gone up, it is better to club it with In­ ment than the revenue which was actually come Tax Department. It can work being realised. That is one of the successfully. By passing this Bill we reasons why this has been abolished will only be working against the social. My submission is that if the date of ism. So it is better to retain the Estate abolition is made effective six months Duty. It is not aood for the country before the date of t 6th M .. J.rch· 1985, to abolish it. What is that we are then the rea) benefit will accrue to those doing for the poor? Whether the poor people who are going to get this abolition are going to benefit in any way with the advantage because if we are going to abolition of this duty? Whether there abolish it with effect from 16th March is any thing useful for the poor in this 1985, there are cel tain special circum­ Bill 1 Only rich people pay Estate stances under which a large number of Duty nOt the ordinary peopJe like rick. middle class peopl~ arc affected, and shaw pullers labourers etc. So where also large number of people with small was the necessity to abolish t his duty. incomes, smaU properties, houses and Therefore it is rediculous to do away provident funds, who have been kiHed with Estate Duty. The very aim with because of the riots after the assassina. which Estate duty was imposed once' by tion 01 our dear Prime Minister, hte tbe Congress party has been forgotten •Mrs. Gandhi, ~nd the gas leakage totally. There is no other argumont tragedy which occurred in Bhopal, are e"cept to say tbat the cost of administra­ affected. As I said yesterday, the im­ tion has gone UP. It is no rO$son at all. pression was that only the people died Hence 1 request the Ooverament to during tbis las traaedy. But it is not 10. 3'5 Estate Duty (Amdt.) Bitl AVGUST 23, 1985 Estate Duty (Amdt) Bill 376

[Shri Ajay Muahran] ed. They wiIJ ctepo,it the black mone)" An appreciably large number of middle in the safe custody of natronalised banks class people who were just on the verge and their branches throughout the country of e'lempled limit of Estate .. Duty 10st inltea,d of keeping it in their own safes. their lives and their next oC kiD wdl You will not be in a position to rake any suffer. I am v~ry sure that you, being action against them. You are openly en .. benevolent as you are, wiIJ realise that couraging people to amass black the benefits given to the people who have m9Dey. di~d on or afler 16th March 1985 should . a1so be given to the next of the kin of (Interruptions' tbe people who have died before this duty is abolished, but whose returns are The amount of ec;tate duty being col­ due up to ] 6th March 1985. That date lected up till now will not be there. The comes to 16.9. t 984. This is the only hOD. Minister said that we shall unearth submission which I wanted to make and black money with the help of the existing the reasons a['C' valid. After all, even provisions in law. In this connection 1 six months are not go iog to get an ap­ would like to say that we are. iB­ preciable income. On the other hand equipped. We do not have fire·arms. we will be helping a large' number of What we had was only bow and arrow middle class people who have lost their and now we have kept only the bow and lives and for the next of kin, I am sure thrown away t he arrow. At least you you would like to save the harassment could have done thi,; much that you could of tbe tax people. This date will be have raised the cej]mg of the estate duty brought back and pre-poned to 16th frqm Rs. ).5 lakhs to Rs. 3 lakhs or September 1984 so that they can get ~ lakhs~ advantage, I mean those who had to file their returns on the estate by 16th A small fraction of the total amount March 1985. I am $ure the hone collected as estate duty llliCd to go to the States but now after it., abolition, Finance Minister will be kind enough to , , make this amendment JD the date of its the States will not get this amount. effect. Simitarly the scope of the Estate Duty DistributioR Act is limited. Now the [Translation] States will not get any revenue from this source. SYED MASUDAL HUSSAIN (Mor­ shidabad): Mr. Ch3irm~m.* Sir, since ([nlerrllpli(Jn.'i ) yesterday the House has been discus~ing various implications of black mOney and It is a small measure but a dangerous today at t P,M. the hon. Finance Minis­ one I would again urge you to raise ter said that he would use all means to the ceiling of eCJtate duty in"tead of com­ unearth black money, and now at 2 P.M. pletely abolishing it as it would give an this Estate Duty (Amendment) Bill h.as op,nortun1ty to blacktnarketeers to amass been brought fufward Sir, it is not an bJack money freely. They will now de­ amendment Bill but II) my mind it is an posit tl1is money In the banks and you ab,)litlon BIll. cannot take any action against them. With these words, I oppose this Bill. What used to happ.en prior to this 1 RAMASHRAY PRASAD If anyone had properly worth more than SHRI Rs. 1.5 )c'khs, hiC\ heir'l approrlched the SINGH (Jah1nabad): Mr, Chairman, Sir, I rise to oppose the Est!lte Duty court and before obtain in!! t succe"ision (Amendmeot) Bill 1 oppose it not be.. certificatl" they had to get 1.'0 Es' ate Duty cause I am in opposition but bccau'te this clearance certificate. Now thi" will not' be required. GGvernment repeatedly says that we are marchmg towards socialism, Will tbls BiH take us on the path of soci~sm? A few days back you appreliended .. a You can yourself see it. vegetable merchant in Sahzi Mandl in Delhi but now they cannot be aJ'lprehcnd. ('nterrupllo~ s) ... 377 Estate Duty 'Amd!) Bill BHAD~A 1, 1907 (SAKA) E,'itate Duty (Amdt.).Bill 378

Your way of inlerpretin~ ~ociali~rn is One point was made that this is for the different ftom ours. Now. bl8 persons ~UPI ort of (be rich The EeoDom c will keep their money In bank~ Witt out Ad,!,fn'~tretion Ref.lrms Cornnw;sion have any fear and they will tdke full benefit gone info detail on rhis subject and I of it. Then you will not be able to jUs"t 'M!nt to read a passage: arrest those people. You know bet er how persons having black money utilise "'The revenue from estate duty has it. You are \lery well aware of what stagnated around R~ J 0 to tremendous harm black money has caused Rs. t 5 crores and has not kept to the country and the Govetoment ex­ pace with the genetal rate of rhe chequer. I would lIke to say that by in the realisations from income bringmg this Bin you have given conces­ tax. The overall contnbution of sions to big buslOessmen. Such thmg estate duty to the' general re\fenue should not happen. Had the path of has, in fact, decrca~d from an soclali~m been f(lllowt'd, ..then you would a~rcady c;mall 0.22'10 In 1972-73 have brought a ~oclalistic Bdl 10 order to to a mere 0 "~f\ in 1°80-81. provide relief to po)r people Today .The C & AG's Report for many poor people say thdt eveq,body, t 979-80 brmgs out that the particularly the common man IS experienc­ 1 2000 and odd e"l-tte duty assess­ ing many hnrdshlps due to pnce flse. ments comr1eted during thdt year Had Government taken some measures tn( lu(.kd only () cases where the to mm)ffilSe t"elr hardships, these mC hke that Th(l prIce Iii v~ty haralisment

If you ale giving exemptIOn In .respect 14 34 hn. of a~ricu1tural land the rural poor people WIll benefit by that, So, I am slJpporting [MR. SPEAKER in The Ch(1;,.l thiS Bill and am congratulatin~ the Mlni­ This Was the as~es~rn"'nt hy the FC00('\· st~r for introducing this Bill. mic Administration ReforT11~ Commilii~,on , II> • In regard to realisation, the money c;pent THE MJNYSTER OF FINANCE AND on the cost of coHce-tion, ae:; n l"ercent~ge, COMMERCE (~HRI VI,SHWANATH is 1 /2 % in the case or Income Tax. PRATAP SINGH) : Sir, I fhink, the from 3 to 4 % in the CRse of wealth ta~, sense of the House is already expre~sed. from 6% to 6.2 % and 6. 9~~ around '1 () ~~. 379 Estatt Duly (Amit.) Bill AUGUST 23, Ifas St. ro: Ekctltw inPUh/ab 380

(Shri VisbwaQatb frat. Siqb] Sir, I am lbankful to tbe Mombell lor the bi.belt, to abe atae of Estato Dut)'. tbell support. With theso words I rec0- So the· COlt: of collection was also mmend the House fen passins of this )\jlber. So, in view or all tbell coasido­ DiU. rations we have" come with tbj, proposal to abolish tbil. As for as the poi~ that Ma. SPEAkl;R : The question is :

w. are bolpioa tbe rich is conccroed 9 ) WaDt to say there is 00 question at~ut it. "That the DiU further to amend the' You know ahc' ,trOD! action we are Estate Duty Act, ,953, be taken lakina witb reprd to tax evaaioD. into consideration."

The m(Jt iOlf was adopt«l Sir, I want to repeat ooe point whicb I have also made in my first &late1nent MR. SPEAKER: The House will now that in 1934 tbere was a Bill for aboli .. -take up cla\lse by clause ~onsideration of tion of estate duty f, om agnculture land. the 14iU. Severa. States bave pass~d the le&lslation and 00)1 a few States tike Andhra The question is : Pradesh, Kaloataka, Maoipur, Nagaland. Punjab and Tripura have not yd .pas8ed '"This Clause 2 stand part or the it. When two of these States pass it ~e Bill. "

'Will be coming with a Bin. No where (- else on agriculture land there l& estate The motion wo.s _adopted. ~ duty. ClouSt 2 was added to the Bill. As resards the point raised by Shri MUlhran to )Ja~lDg relrospective effect of Clause I. Enacting Formula and Tille six months, I thtnk, 1 canDot aaree to were added 10 the Bill. that because ShU there may be cases where one day earlier somehody might SHRI VISHWANATH have died. (lntt'rruptions) I have applied PRATAP SINGH: Sir, I move: my mind. but I caOQot agtee. '4Tbat the Bill be passed.'· Again, Sirt a point had been made tbat people will put their money now in tbe MR. SPEAKER: The question is : bank aod, therefore, they will become . safe frGm t~e operallon of law tax. I do "That llle Bill be passed:~ not· know how one who puts it in the bank becomes salor. I t if unaccoun led The motion ,.,11" lit/opted. money whether it is in fbe bank or in tbe hOuse. Once it is unaccounted, by puttins it in tbe bank nobody becomes safer. 14.40 firs.

STATEMENT RE: ELECTIONS' PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE IN PUNJAB (Rajapur) If ;you put in tbe Swiss baok. [E",I1"k] . SHR.I VISHWANATH PRATAP THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI 81 NOH) ,: Perhaps we will take adyjce RAllV UANDHI): Sir, Hon'ble mem­ from you bow to deposit it. A. reaar-dl beu are aware that tbe sbedute 'or elec.. ~ State'. share it i. \lery meaare. Abolition lions io Punjab has been .Mouncod by tbe Commi.. ~. of estato duty does Dot affcct the PinaDce lUectioD Commission's recommendations. So~ The primacy of tbe electoral process ill States bave aet sIlrplu8 budget due to our couotry il ()bviou, ; it needa DO ape­ Finance ComRlissiQn recoLllroeodations. ~ial emphasis, 381 St. re ~ EJectiDIIS In PII1f1D11 DI'I~Ul'.A 1•• 907 ~(S.4A."A) R4l1way I'rol,ctloll 382 Fllru (Amell.) BUt

l.t is well understood by our people As the cUJto

However, in the context of recent Our democratic society has the inner events in Punjab, the electoral pr'lCess streblth to close its tanks to face tbe bas allo acquired a new national signi .. dllnser. that confront it. ficance. We 511811 demonstrate that we are ~'I)­ The fundamental issue now berore aU able of risin, above expediency. political parties commlted to the demo­ <:ratic system is : Let m, who \faIlle the ideals that bave built this Nation, togetber accept this ShaU we aJJow the e~erciBe of the challenge. free will of the people to be obstructed, frustrated and subverted by the forces of extremism and terrorism 1

On a correct response to thic; question bing('s the fate o~ the democratic system in India. RAILWAY PROTECTION FORCS (AMENDMENT) BILL Either aU political parties unitedly face the smister challenge of terrorism by {English) strengthenmg democratic process or they THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS succumb to the threat from terrorism and (SHRI BANSI LAL) I beg to move : extremism.

In Punjab all else is secondary, '''That the Bill to amend the Railway Protection Force Act, 1957. be

taken into consideration. It • How individual parties fare is of Irttle con'\cquence. It do~s not matter who WinS, and who loses. Sir, the Railway Protection Force, be­ fore the Act of I 9 S7 was a watch and What matters IS that the lamp of demo­ ward departmen,t of the Railways. After tracy is not extinguished: what does 1957, It became an organised force, At matter is tnat 10418 WinS. present, the Railway Protection Force bas little powers to discharge its functions The people or India have shown that properly. After tile passing of this they value democratic fights and freedom amendment, the Rai1way Protection Fore above e~rything else: the polhical will be able to discharge its duties pro­ partIes that represent them value demo­ perly and more effectively. The Railway cr~cy no Jess. Protection Force will be an Armed Force and prosecution against them In certain A democratic election is the people', cases will be done away with .. answer to the brute force employed by a small section to impose their WtU on With these words, I commend the Bill the masses, (or the consideration of the Rouse.

We shan not allow divisive force~ to prevail. MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved:

We shall serve as the instrument to .tThat the Bill to amend tbe Railwa, enable the democratic p,ocess to triumph Protection Force Act, t 9 S 7. '" wbakver the risk to ()urselvcs.. takon into cOD.ideratioo .. •• , . 383 Ruilway Pr4JllOtlM AUGUST 23" 1985 Rallw(lY Protltt/on 384 Force (Amtlt.) Bill Force (Amdt.) Bill

PROF K V. THOMAS (Brnakuhuu) : to tbe SuperiDtendent of the Station, be Sir, I rise to support tho _ Rai1w~y does not pay any attentioD. The Protection Force Bill. Superintendents should be giveo dir~. tions that as $oon as they ge't aoy Railway is one of the biggest organi­ complaint. suitable action should be sation WhlCh is catering to the needs of taken by them. tt}e passengers ana also movins ,be very heavy gQods traffic. When Shri Bansi 14.49 hI'S. Lal...took chatge as Mioisler of Railways. we believed that he Witt be abJe to rUD . [~HRI SHARAI) DIGHE in 'he Chair] this big orgaOlsation in a better manner as he is one of the well known adl1lini­ You are a good Minister, Whea we fltrotofS, but, I am v... r)' painfuJ to see give a representation to you, you that you h-tve this while introduced HiJI, immediately give eIther a,positive answer the Railway Protection Force Bill, the or a negative answer. 'but aloog with Railway Prot,ction Force 'annot protect ... your answer, you gi ve a lengthy reply the people. saying the reason~ for your answer. We are very happy. but when a similar I come from KeraJa which is on tbe complaint is given to the officers in your southQrn most part of the country. From Department, they do not take any care my State, there are 'hree long distance to give a suitable reply. You should pas~engcr trains; one is K K E~press, given instructions to the officers in your the second is Jayanti' Janta E"press to department that whenever there is any Delhi and the third is~ Jayanti Janta complaint, they should give proper reply, Express to B )mbay. The passengers and ~ they should also look into these in these long d Ist ..mce trains are very complaints and take necessary actioD. often plund~red and manhandled. Anti. social elements enter these trains and take SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBE~ away the v~luable9 of the people. (Midnapore): I oppose the Bill which has been brought forward by our My humhle suggestion is that the Minister. (Interruptions) passengers of short distance should not be allowed to enter the loog distance PROF MADHU DANDAVATE trains. (Rajapur): KlDdly teU them that the Government of the onited Congress There is anocher suggestion that I never allo\.\ed thiS Bill. They did not have to make. When we complain to waot to expand the armed forces. the Railway Protection Force, they say that they are beljJiess, tbey will hand SHRl N~RAYAN CHOUBEY: So, over our complaints to the State police they have changed their position. Very which will take action. But nobody good. Because the situation has chaoaed knows what action is taken by the State their positioll. pollee. The RPF was a Watcb' & Ward organization before independence. These I also want to bring to your notice days, RPF is called by people, not as tbe very poor catering'in the passeng~r Railway Protection FOrce but as Railway trains. In K K Express. there is no Plundering Porce or Railway Pilferage proper catering service. Usually, as Forte. (Interruptions) Act\laJly, tbe hon. you know, Our trains are very late, so Members on the other side also know we wilt Dot be geUlDa food at all on this, also say the same thing when they some days. Kind!) look into tbis asp.ect speak outside. There are saying some.. also, ~hinl elso inside tbe Houae.

Maoy of tbt Members of Parliament SHRI a~M PYARE PANIK;l\ have very bitter exporience in the (Ro~rts8anj) .~ We have DO double passenger traias. When we complain standards. 38 S RttllwlJ)I Protection MADRA 1, 1901 (SAXIf) Railway Prot,ctlDn 386 F.orce (Amdt.) Bill Force (Amdt.) Bill

PROP . MADHU DANDAVATB: 24 .. hour armed viail, with armed COilS .. They have tl'iple standards-ote for the tables or armed guards. Even .. then, you Alec, one for this House, and ODe for will find that it you tepair a wall to..day, tbe Central Hall. tomorrow you wiJJ fiod it broken. To. day you repair a cleft; tomonow you wiU SHRI NARAYAN OHOUBBY : I find a hole. How do theac tbings would 1ik~ to draw the atteDtion Qf tho happen? Without tbe connivance of the Minister to the fact,. which he knows RPF peopJe, how can these things very well, that at the top level of RPF, bappen? These things can never bappen there is a lot of corruption. In the otherwise. matte" of postiogs and transfer8~ there is rCell big corruption at the head office I 'told tho Minister aomethiDI per­ and the divisional offices. sooaUy, regarding Howrah. He took note of it. But eVeD then I see Wagon-breakers are there fro'll amongst that nothing has happened. To-day you them. --(Interruption) The hon. Member repair a waU; tomorrow you wiJJ find here is ,limply leUina. me what J should that it is broken. soeak. He is prompting me. Wagon­ brea ken arc there from ~mongst tbem. I wanted to tell you one more thing" R PF people are linke. with wagon­ Now you are trying to give them more breakers. smugglers anti receivers of . pOwers so that they can arrest a man stolen properly. You can very well find without an) warrant and tbey can entet" out the names. into any place. J do not think tbat will be fair because their records are npt very You have to sratify the head office if good, Already ~bey have got enough you want to get a good posting, in a powers. They cane arrest any person good marshaHing yard. Suppose you with the belp (\f pollee. That means in want to have 8 postmg in Mughar Sarai BIhar. they have to take help from the Y cud, or Kharal!tmr Marshalling Yard or Bihar Police. i(l Bengal, they' have to the Waltair Ya"d. you have to gratify the take belp from the Bengal police aDd iD head offi::e, with a monthly Income or Uttar Pradesh, they have to take belp .. , PJlvment, from the U P Poltce. Now you want to say that they can do the policiog, the I think you know it. I had suggestrd law and order duty which is tho· prerO­ onc thing b.lsed on my own expedertce. gative of tl1e State. Now you want thts I know th4t in the raiJway workshops or prerogative to be given in respect of this factories where they are .keeping wat,9h­ force also. I think it will be incorrect, dogs around the wall. theft is very much when you have appointed a Sarkaria Jess, Somellmes it seem that trained Commission • tp think of giving more dogl! are more dependable in the matter pOYters t('\ these peop'~. of giving protection to property. than our owq. personnel, J would r~que5t the This is not tbe only baclcsround. You Minister to consider thls--whelher at . should think thrice before giviog more least ;n one small factofY, one small pow~rs to these people whose records are· wagon shop or' loco shop you can try it. not at all very bright. I .bint' yeu will make agcli~ if you Can keep 2 or 3 dogq around the waH of Then iir, another "ery bad thins is these factories. Then the theft there will that you are going to withdraw wbatever be much less because, in Kharagpur I right ,hey have got to form their asso­ have $een it. It fS my cxperience~ In cialions They have no uniops as yet, factories where we k~p dQIS, theft is they doott join any union. They._e very much less compared to' those Ueither Members of this union nor the factories which "are kecpiol security I N rue or any other union but they hav~ luard,. You know well tl18t in Howrah. Rot their own associa~ioos. Today. you are IQaragp}Jr, ~nsol aDd M.,.hal Sarai IOing)o withdraw tbat tbina. perhaps you which have Jot biB walta &f01(lnd. there ~Q are swit~hins to moro democracy at the 387 Railway Prot,ctlon AUGUST 23, 1985 ~ommltt~~ (111 3 88 . F.(Jr~ (~mdl.) Bill P.M.B. and R~$. [Sbri 1-'arayan Cnoubey] our hon. Railway Mirdltc~, I wish to arast-toot·level. They have their OWD grie­ make a 'ow sUgacatioDs. I whQlebear. vanees. You koow pretty well, tbat these tedly welcome this BJU. Throlllb this common people are not ift a' happy mood. BiU. She Railway ProtectioQ Force which They have to keep tbeir mouth shut: has"be.,n in .exishmc~ for the past 28 Big officers torture than, if tbey try to do years is being convetted into the Armed their du,y dutifully. That is nQt to be Forces of t.. Union. It is very nece­ counted. , The officers durpose. I hope you wiU consider my proposal and with. [English] drawiPI tbis Bill. Fifth Report [Translalloll ) SHRt HUSSAIN DALWAI (Ratna. *SHRI R, JEBVARATH1NAM (Ara­ sirl): I bel to move : kkonam): Hon. Mr. Chairman, Sir, on the Railway Protection Force Amend. "That this House do aaree with the ment Bill. which has been introduced by fifth Report of. the Committee on •• 389 Bl~Is lnlr.oducftl BIlADIlA I, 1901 (S"KA) Bill, 1nt,odue. 3,0 Private tMntbers' Bills and RItO­ introduce a Bill further to amend lho lutton. presented to ~be House OD ~ Constitution of India. tbe 22Dd Auautt, 1985." Mil. CHAIRMAN: The question is-: MR. CHAIRMAN: The q~SUOD is : '·Th~t leave be aranted to introduce "That t·his House do agree with the a Bill furtb~r to Amend tho ftrtb Report of the Committee'on Constitution of IDdi~. 2." Private Members' BiUs and Reso­ lutions pres en ted to the House on The mOlion was adopted. the 22nd August, t 985."

SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA The ,"0 lion was adopted. introduce the Bill. · ..---- 15.01 bra. 15.03 brs. FREBDOM OF INFORMATION BILL. [M R. DEPUTY SPEAKSR In the Choir J [ English) PRASAR BHARATI (BROADCASTING SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mavoli­ CORPORATION OF INDIA) .IULL* kara): I ~g to move for leave to intro­ due' a Bill to provide f.or certain agencies [English] to ensure freedom of having access to and obtaining public information for the PROF, MADHU DANDAVAtE (Raja­ citizens and lor rnatters connected there­ pur, : I beg to move for leave to introduce with. a Bill to provide for tbe establishment of a Broadcasting Corporation for India, to MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : be known a$ Prasar Bharati, to define its Composition, fUDctions and powers "That leave be grante.d to introduce a and to provide ror matters connected BlH to provlde for certain agencies therewith or incidental thereto. to ensure freedom of hav.ng access to and qbtaitllng pubhc informa­ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques­ tion for the citizens and for tion is : matters connected therewith," "That leave be granted to introduce The motion. was adopted. 8 Bill to provide (or the est .. • ablishmeDt of a Broadcasting SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I CorporatioD for India, to be introduce the Bill. known as Prasar Dharali, to define its composition, functions and powers and to provide for matteri connected therewith or CONStITUTION (AMENDMENT) incidental thereto." BILL· Thf motion was adopted. (Amendment or article 19 _.etc.) PROF. MADSU DANDAVATE [ E",lhh) I introduce tho BiU. SHRI O. M. BANATWALLA (PoDoaoi): I bea to move for leave to __ -- • PubltlbOa 10 o ..tto of lodia axtra Qtdioary. Part II. "Section 2, Dated 23.8.191'. 391 Bills Introduced AUGUST 23, 1985 Billl Introduced 392

CONSTITUTION (AMENDMBNT) SHIU THAMPAN THOMAS :. 1 BILL· introduce tbe Bill.

(Amendment or article 311)

(English] AGRlCULTURAL WORJ(BRS (PAY. PROF.' MADHU DAN o AVATB MENT 'OF PB,NSION, FIXATION (Rajapur): I beg to move for )~ave to OF MINI \fUM WAGES, COMf" introduce a Bill further to ~me!ld Jhe PULSORY INSURANCE AND Constitution of India. OTHER AMENITIES) BILL

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The question is : (English]

SHRI B. V. DESAI (RaichUr): I b~g "That leave be granted to introduce to move for le4ve to introduce a Bill to I a Bill further to amend the provide for., pension, pFovidend fund, Constitution of India. " minimum wages and amenities for agricultural workers • .The motlo,! was adopted. MR. DEPUTY S'EAKER queslion is : PROF. MADHU DANDAVATI!: introduce the Bill. UThat the leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for pension, --__...j" provident fund, minimum wages and othel amenities for agricultural workers. CONSTITUTION (AMEN~MENT)

BILL· The motion WOJ adopted.

(Insertion of new article 15 A) SHRI B. V. DESAI: I introduce the Bill •. [EnglishJ

SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mave­ Iikeara): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the INDIAN NATIONALS LIVING AB. Constitution of India. ROAD (REPRESENTATIO~ IN PARLIAMENT AND STATE LE­ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The GISLATURES) BILL. question is :

[English]

'C"fhat leave be granted to introduce a SHRI B. V. DESAI (Raichur): I Bill . further to amend the Con- beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill . stitution of IDdia." to provide representation in Parliament and State Legislatures to Indian nationals The motion was adopted. living abroad. • • Publi,.hed in Gazette of India Extra otdinarYt Part II, Section 2, dated 23.8·1985. ~ 393 BIO, Ifltroduced BHADRA t, 1907 (SAKA) BIlls Introduc~d 394 • MR. DBPUTY SPEAK'BR ~ The beg to move for leave)o introduce a Bill question is : t() provide for small family promotion and -motivation and other measures for popu­ "That tbe leave be, granted to intro- lation control. 1tduce a Bill to provide representa .. tion in Parliament and State Leail- ~ . .Jatures to Indian nationals living MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques­ abroad." tiob is :

The motion was Qdop~d. "That the leave be granted to intro. duce a Bill to prQvide for small family promotion and moti\)ation SHRI B. V. nBSA(: I introduce and other measures for population the Bill. ~ontrol,"

-_- The molion was odopt,d,

15.04 brs. SHRI B. V. DESAI I introduce CEILING ON MARRIAGE EX­ the Bill. PENSES BILL.

(English] SHRJ B. V. DES 4.1 (Raichur) : 15,05 hrs. beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for ceiling. on marriage REGULATION AND CONTROL expenses OF TECHNICAL SERVICING UNITS BILL· ~ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The question is : [Enllish]

"That the leave be granted to introduce SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK a Bill to provI4e for ceiling on (Cuttac.k): 1 beg to move for leave, to marriage expenses." introduce a Bill to provide for regulation and control of technical servicing units in the country. 11,e motion WQS adopted.

SHRI B. V. DESAI: I introduce MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER ~ The the BIU. question is :

··That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for regulation and COntrol of tethnical servh:ina unit. COMPULSORY POPULATION in the country." CONTROL (SMALL FAMfLY PROMOTION AND MOTIVA.. , TION) BILL.

SHRLMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK : 1 . [English] introduce the Bill •

SHRI B. Y. DESA[ (Raicbur) I

• Published· in Gazette of lodia PMraorcSinaty, Part l.l, $ec&ion 2. dated 23.8 .. 8S. 395 Cod, 0/ Cr. P; AUOU~T 23, 1985 Code ()/ Cr. P. 39. (A.mdl.) Bill (Am;t.) Bill

FAMILY RESTRICTION INCENTI­ rule by which we oan continue ""ill h •. VES BILL- comes, let us continue. ~

[Engli,h] MR.. DEPUTY·SPBAKER: It it Dot possible. SHRIMATI1AYANTI PATNAIK (Cuttack) ~ I bel to move for leave to SHRt O.M. BANATWALLA introduce a Bill to provide' for incen­ There should be some laxity somewhere. tives to those who would rcstrict \heir At least let us 10 on till be comel. families by ullinl family planninl devices. MR. DEPUTY.SPBAKER Shri Owaisi may start his speech. -MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER The question is : THE MINISTER OP STATB IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIA- "That leave be grF nted to intro­ MERTARY AFPAIRS (SHRI duce a Bill to provide for in'!en­ OHULAM NABI AZAD) : He has tives to those who would restric~ already spoken, I think. there families by using famHy planmng devices'~. • SHRI OWAISI (Hyderabad): No. I have not spoken. :n,., ~ was adopted. [ TranJ/atlon] _alMATJ 1 A Y AN 1'1 PAT- NAIK : . 1 introduce .the BIU. SHRI OWAISI (Hyderabad) : . Mr. Deputy.Speaker, Sir" the Supreme Court judgement, which has inter(:red • with the Ml,lslim Sbariat law has caused COD. 0' CRIMINAL PROCEDURE 'anxiety among the entire muslim com­ (AMENDMENT) BIlL-Contd. mUDity of tbe country. I would like to (AmendmfDt of SeclioDti 125 aod 117) say that a Muslim caD tolerate every­ thina but he cannot tolerate intederence wuh his religion. . [ EIrI11,1I1 MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER: Now I leel that in all the speeches made we take up tbe further consIderation of here, no Muslim Member has s.ald any­ the rollow,ng motion moved by ShY i thin. wrong because Isl'ilm has been O.M. BanatwaUa on 10 May, 1985, bestowed by Allnh "Mohammadur­ namely; rasool .. ulIah Sullahu EHah ¥as'tJJam". Nobody can interfere with it. We shall t'That the Bill further to amend never tol::rate any kind of interrerence the Code of Cnminal Procedure, wIth it. Member have given here many 1913, be hkoD into consJdcra ... examples about the chanlea which have u tion • taken place in Paki8tan~ Malaysia ~and 'other places. Mr. Deputy Speaker,

Shri Bbrahim Sulaiman Sait was Sir" Mr. Sait ha~ come bere. If be •••.• a Ipeakina" he can continue. shOUld I continue or••••••

SHRl O~M. BANATWALLA [E",II$1I] (PonnanO: He is under the lmpression that he will be called' at 3.30 P.M. He MR. DBPUTY·SPEAK61l': You may be called later. If tbete i. lome continue.

*Published in Gazette of India ~Extraordinary, Part JI, Section 2, dated 23.8.85. 39' Code of Cr,. P. BMADR.A. J.. 1901 (S.4K A) Cud, 0'ii:. P. 398 (Jf!fldl.)' Bill' ("..mdt.J LIllI [Tra",/alio" ] • miserable, but 10ll have done Dothao.' in ) this tesp~et. Islam is a D,ell-e­ SHRI OWA1SI : I was ..,in, Fitrat and it has not lone a&cli.lst the that it was wrool to say th.t 'in certain Fltrat. Islam want. that no woman Muslim countries obanle8 had takeD should remail1 unmuried. The divorcee place. , No sucb thiDI bad taken p"ce should marry again because remaining anywhere. Su~pos' for a while that unmarried in society will help creat somo ohanle has taken place somewhere. evils. Islam does not want creation of but that dOd not mean that tbls evils. It wants that a woman should relision belonal to Zia.. ul .. Haque or marry and it is the sacred saying of somebody else. Nobody has lot the Prophet Mohammad that it is His law right to change it. If such a lbina and he who violates His law has nothing happeJis in any country, It is not worthy­ to do with Him. Such a great impor­ or beiDg accepted by us. If thry do 80, tanCi! has been given to marriage. Why they are wrong. .. as such things falked ~bout? After ' all, there are other nlJttets to be worried about. I would like to say that I~ has been said here that many be' persons including certaiu Muslims ahQ it would better to amend the Supreme Court's judgement through have spoken against thh. Personal Law. BIll and'do what [ may tell you that a person who speaks this the Muslims want. The f,)undation of secularism should ,be of interf:ring Wlta. religion ia not a MusHm at all. It has b:en &tattd here btrengthened. that Ajgar i\li Engineer and lome other persens hR ve spoken like this. 1f they You have no rj~ht to say anything have spoken I1k~ lhis, they are not about the enpre religion. I would Muslims ~nd if they are Dor Muslims, like to say it again that you enlct a. 'bey have no right to say anything law for pr,vention of co~ sluujhter to in this matter, prot :c· YQur religion. If you talk of Supreml! Court today, then do not do On the other hand, it has been it Due to this judacment, there i, atated in this august Hf»use- that atroci. restlessness not only in India but in the ties are being perpetrated on women. entire Muslim countries of the world. It has been said that sympathy should It is the first Instance in the history of be shown nfG..ards women,. But it is a Islam that su~h a juJgement has been strange coincidence that what wilen liven by which changes. are sought to discussion wa' .~inl on the Perscfnal be made in the Sh.Jrir.lt. 'filIi thing has Law in tbe country, nots broke out in happened for the first lime afl er 1,400 Oujarat. The women there were di'i­ y~ars. It hall caused r.:stle-ssness amo.ll ,raced, but nobody uttered a word all the people. The only way to remove about it. After all, atrocities are beiDa this restlessness is to pass Immediately perpetrated 00 women there also. Has the Bill introduced by Shri B.. LnatwaUa it not come in some newspapers tha.t and settle thiS issue f"r ev.:r. If thiS .pears were thrust and aCid pt,\urcd into decision is left as it is, then I do nOI feel their private parts? Where w~re tbes, that it would lead 'to any S ltisfactory persona at that time? Nobody c .... mt!t condiUe-n. On the other hGlnd, It will forward to plead the case of women at lead to disturbina c~n,equ~nces aad that time. create restlessness among MU8lims.

I . Today, on the basis of a caee You w~11 aee that such a serioue reratina to Muslim P"rsonal 4w, ''lYnr concrern baa n.wer been expresled d8 pithy i. btint showD to women-by any matter in the COUll try b fore a'l ha. .. ~ . oonsplrml to arnpop tbe .orden of be~ expressed in the present cale. civil cpurtl. KeepUla in. View all', hese thin~ it woufd be bettor for Gwernmellt io The condition of woman il very have a second tbouabt on ~t. r ... 399 Cock 8/ Cr. P•. AUGUST 23, 1985 Cod, .oler. p. 400 (Am.) Bill (Atndt.) Bill lShri Owaisj} an end for lood. With these words, I Supreme Court Judles should also hOld conclude. consultations before delivering such judlcmc:nt. This is."ue p~rtams to a [E"glishl rell.ion and only a Muslim Ju die should decide such casrs because in sucb MR. DEPUT1 SPEAKER': As cases only a Musllm has aot the r ant a ''Pecial case I am all wing Shti Sulai­ to do iztihod, i.e.~ t1iht to give opimon man Sait because when I called his wh~re there is conflict between the name be was not preserlt, but anyhow order of the law and that of t be one of his colleagues Shri nanatwalla Prophet. Nobody else has got the tight told that since" he had some important ~() do so. Exactly this is the case be­ work, be wants to come late. So, as a 'or~ us today. As per as problem, only special case I am allowing Shrr SulaJmao Muslim Jud,es 'have got thIS right,,' Sait to continue hIS speech. Certain conditIOn., have been laid down lor him also. Neither Parllamenl nor tit" Supreme Court htls got thl:o- nght. SHRI EBRAHIM SUlAIMAN No power on eart h has got the nght to SAlT l Manjeri): Mr: Deputy-Speaker, enact such a law which' may Cduse Sir. I was on my legs when the House ...ental agony. 1 would like to ~ay adjourned on the 9th of August and that this. august House should postpone diScussions was continuing on the Code consideration oJ the Bill. The Wide­ of Criminal Procedure (Amendmenl) ,,)read rt:tt~cs. amJna Mu~liJlls in Bill moved by my colleague Janab the coUJi,tr, 'Mto111d be", removed. The Gulam Mohammad. BanatwalJa. I had belt way to ft1h.::)v\. lhi, re~tle~5n~ss IS spoken just (or OflC or t" 0 mmutes on ttl close the doors for such 'casc;s for that day and now I am resummg my ev~r so !h4llt such issues may never arise ~peech. I am grateful to you for and Deftr crcat __ rest! :ssness. permitting me to speHk though 1 was a little tall'. At the out~et. 1 requ:st )OU t'O bedf Wlt~ me fur justified h ngth I would like to sav Ihat hone of time this. I say because M~sllm Member should nOI say anYi htng which Personnl law is a very important h,.;ue, may C8US~ menwl agony to anyb,)dy. a burnmg issue, a sensitive_.... issue which Many thm8~ ha\ e been said. ~ Many d.!f'ply (:oncern~ the relIgiOUS security Y,lU "omen have. ~ald such thmgs. an'\rchgiou'ld.entity of 120 l'I1JllillO cannot enact a law on the btSIS of the P ople of thIs country. ·Wll~n I slOpped views expressed by a few persons. sJ)edkmg i.lst time on 9' h?f a\ugust, I What does the mujority wan t? The had emphatically told the. Hous! ,hat thl3 majority in the country has Hlken the rec~nt Supreme Cour t Judgement, decision and a deputat Ion of the tbat is, AIR: '985 SC 945 is a com­ relillousscbolars met Ihe Prlln~ l\4jlHSter pftte and flagrant violation of Muslim '.'so. These are the mailers ~ h'vr~ Ihe Persona'" Law The Supreme Court, Supreme Court jud~es h.\Ve totally errld through its judgement, has interfered in. while giving the juda(ment. They have lhe Mu~hm Personal Law. Not only made referencrs which 1 do not WClnt to thiS, I he Supreme. Court has flouted, mention there. I Nould like,. to s l)' without nny consideraHon, the decision tbat this problem~ shoulc:l be recogrllsed taken by 'his House in 1973 with and the restlessness among Muslims regard to various sections of ,.'riminal I'cmaved for ever because people in Procedure Codt: Bill thus flouting the India clearly have their own d gnity intention of the Parliament. What is and it is not advisuble to cause restless­ mulh more Irirvous is that Supreme pCltS amons the people of such a larac Court has given a wrong interpretation ,runority in the .country. The inter­ of two isolat~d VClse. of Quran. The ference which ,t\as startc~ with their Suprem.: Court has quoted theRe Verses feligion recontly Ihould be put to out of Context ianorina other verSt's 40 f CQde of C,.. P. BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAK~) CodtJ of C,. P. 402 , fitn4l1t.) Bill "(,41n!t.) B! I! '

on, the subject; and, I,nortas alSO tile nouncemonta myself" Here It .8 tho , ~r'dlUod. Of tbe ~.tGfh.t; , Holy qur~n whtch ~ys this. I ",outd not SO its texi, but wlU 'ctuoto the The verses of 'Holy &ooJC q'u-r.Q tra.nslation of the v~r•.. It i_ Ch&pa,r ,Ct8\n'dt \'bc; f misiftterpreteL ... Jja sudb' a 'll~ Verse 219 • .r It s~: Theie Arc tbe fnanl\~r' ilDoriq estabHs.nc<.\ interprGf1?,­ limi~s iqrdalfleC1 1;, AMah. ' Allah .. : .i~~S ,fot 'last: 1460 " ycars-tbU3. ~dai~ed. cer,tain tlitnits.· AlBA 1tU 'c~tit1g a wr.ooc ~mr~sj", in 11~ laid down cerfain 'law. '.Nllab sa)'s , ' I, \0 , I, ~ country: Alb Holv~BQoks ar~ itnpdrt~nt4 , rho,,,, ,are ,tb~' limit. ordained; so I J..'II.Hoi, lIoqks are I sac;ea, ,be it, the 4on't 'r'a.nsar~&$ them". It means don't' Qllrft.~, 'or ~ ~he. ,Bible, ,lOt. the Or~Ui C(O~· tbdso' limit's, dd. 'not inter­ 'Sahib ot:-;the Yeclal., All .re .•crcd add fer~; dol dot give ltp certain portioqs, ftob'odt &h~uld ,be-. alhl'wqd I t~\ Pla~ $0 land (ollow certain ~orti()D'" accordhi. ~ll.htly 'With:th~~injuractjoQ. cQ\ltained itl to Your liiCe attd dislike I, You bave qo the8~ 'lloly ,acr.iptllt'es .. ! Th~refore~ 1: rjght tl)' do' SO. .A:nd ·tb'od it says: Jf feU tilat' Pf.tj:jament sllo.l1ld pome 'for~ f'-o~ dQ }rans'gressl the limits ordained 6, "ward J"o aeend the Qf'i~Da1 Pro::~u~e Allah, such pe'rsoas I do wrons to Code In I a -'suitabi e 'manqet to '",tv.: th~mselvos. l , " ' . , ' lprotection to Muslim PeJ,s~naJ law and . ~ , thds dullify, the effect o( tRep judg~entj Here I w~ttld like to point out one · of the 9ut>rel1le Court.! > Otllerwise the "e®lar .charact« of, our C9uotry will more, thing. ,After saying this Ruran' ioes Curtner arM sayS what ,. ha)pens if . ~ewlost. fThe. reHlliolli froec.toin laf8rr.. 'one tranSgresses ~hese limits ordained - 'teed by thclCbnstitutJOR in th~ Funda­ by At'lah? ram a'befiever. I belie~ metttal· Ri&hts I Ch.,tp~Jl will becom:~: a in' the }.{oly B.)ok and' I t.n(tw 90 pel: f-dtce. \ . Thus wo will be. ~ay;ng a '""cry cent 'of I the I people' in India are very lJad Ipreecdcnt fM the futute. , .. j:, / , Therefore, 1 requost :tGat i~ is the:dut1 b~liev~rs., Ther bolieve in HiQdulsm ot Christianity Jainism' df this Parliaml:l'lt I ~o I ~unend ,) ti\_e ... I , or , or • BLlddhism or

Crimitl8.l1 Procedute I Codi= tdd nu!Jiry some reli,'on or the' other. Thereforo, the- ·ofi'ect \ofl.the ,Juc4gMtnt o[ ttlc it' is ·that' everybody' should respect tho Stiprerne COt1rt, Hoiy :8..,OKS: 1 respect the Holy BO'lks 'ot 'other (elisions and I want that aU One .Iie factor has to be ~~d~~ Qthers should resp'ect tho Holy Book of .teod ~ very "very' q:tearty.- . As filr •.84 rslam also. Sh'artlU i1 co ""rn'C'ld --«ud lb e ~~slill' 'Pef!sooal Law tlr' a patt 01 Sbarittt-it Again Allab says-and I am n~t is-' nat.a· man-mctde Ila" " .1. Is a divine lQil?-~ tQ road the Arabic text becaUJO rC't'ellatio~ It i.a ba~dj 9n Quatani6 it wlll' takc- mhch mote'time. I will injuncti00S I ami t~tio,..'J,j of Pr,phet.: tHe This is 'Fheretord, _·far'a.s Sh.aliat 'is concerned· iu.~ ~e~a ~ranslatUta. f~o~~~ Chapt-er IV I verse 14. Hcfe Allah bdl the I peNGnal, Jaw js (Coacerbed, it sayS : r quote the translation of Abdulla is' a 4ivinc\1aw,: is, a .u~t.tial 'a'W~ 1r. " . ., I . i's: an'ina1leGablo and140 iAtelraf patt of yu,u.tf j ~li , . It. 8ayi uThoae who and 0 and ·th'e il"CK'~n I of ; Islam. .od t'OCtth~r dispbey !'hab', '~is apos~ with; tibl, otlr ,firm be,"' i. thall when:­ trans,resli tb= limits will' bradmi1tted to 'tbil it". divine rlaw, it c:qaQ.ot be Chi., fire.'~·' 'May be' some people do nec· ,tel; l\t'W Can't ·be ·iftt.~r" withIAUllb.''S belibvc ia any r~liaioQ or do not bolieve dir'QCt.ioalcAnaotlN cm.opd. Th"refoDt,. in Albh and' do o'ot bolievo in holl. w.' entPhaticadb' j feel (tha~ as If. ... ~o~ th~ql. /t havo nothlo'l t4 lay. But Shari•• it ooneerGeG, "tbo ~_Ir80IPl" lal' for bellevcis I I!!ust Sly what Allah is OQocemed, ~it is for aU .times 'fl.Od ffJi I~Yt:' ~ quo~O : Tlloae' who trAllSSf_ 'atl ~eliever$. JiIllU$ will I'c _dlitted to fire to· Jbide 'tb~rein' i· IDd'they .ball have a hl.lmilfat,. Her.. I' do Dol "ate tbefe pro; .itt, puoiShaieDt.'~ rhis is; what Quran 403 Code 0/ Cr. P. AUGUST 23, 198' Code olCr. P. 404 ('Amdt.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill

rshri Ebrahim Suhirn!1 Slit] Congress Party-Mr. Aziz Sait has says about those p 'ople who trans .. spoken; Mr. F'tkir Mohd. has sp lkcTl ; IreU the limits, those people who say Mr. Zainul Risher has spoken. All are they want to change the Personal Law, electeJ repre.,entatives of the country. those people who say they will tolerate They are educated and cultur~d interference in persOnal Law. It is so g ~ntlem!Q What dId they MY? They said that Suprem.! CQurt has erred: important for 8' Musl'im, the real Musdman, that he has to mould his Sup: .!me Court's judgm'~nt is wrong; life according to the injunctions of and they support Ba'lPtw,llla'.t Bill. Quran and one who does not do so Then it is said th'lt all ladies are with cannot be called Musalman at all. 1 you. Far from it. Wh1t a dream! Here on the 9th Begum Abida Ahmed don't say this. 1 say this Oll the authority of Ul,maJ of international was speaking. She is a progres!ive, !ame. And therefore. it is very very educated. cultured Jady and a Important. Now the Supreme Court Member of Parliament and wife of the former Presidl!nt of Indi.a. Sbe said Judgment is here. I told yO\~ how important Shadat is and here the that she was against 1he Suprem; Supreme Court judgment '5·a;8. I Court judgment. We bad observed quote: Shariat Protection d1Y, last Friday of Ramzan, \\> h n lakhs and lakh~ of leThe statutory -right pvaiJable to tclegrames were received by the Prime fvlinister, the Home Minister and the her J.mder this Section is unaffec­ Law Mini~ter. All these hard facts ted by the provisions of the have to be understood very carefully~ Personal Law applicable to her."

Now, ~ir, as I said I n the beginning, That means, whenever th~re is conflict they, tho Supreme Court had comple.. between the Personal L~w and Sec­ telY ignored the int<>ntion of this' tion 1 ~ 5 or the Crimhal Procedtlre Code. SectiQn 125 will prevail Parliament. I do not want to go into details. My colleagile Shri B.. matwalla This is what Supreme Court aga in has already explained about the whole Sft)s. Please see page 12 of Supreme When Criminal Procedure Court judgm ent. I quot e : matter. the Code was introd'Jced in 1973, it WtlS found to be against the MUlilim personal "It shows unmista~ab]y that law. We made repre"entations. There Section 125 over-rides the Persona' agitCltlon in Delega­ Law, if there is any conflict between was 'he country. tion of Muslim Personal Law Board the two." That means, the Supreme met the then Prime Minist€:f Shrimati Court wants to abrogate the personal . Prime Mil"list~r Ind.ir~ law through this judgment. Through­ Gnndhi understond our },)osition. She out the length and bre'idlh of the dire-eted I h:lt amendment should be Country, Mu%aluwns a I,;: unhappy brought about to give protection to abou t this judgment of the Supreme MUl)hl1l per~onal taw and section 27(3)(b) COU t. There is complete and wide­ was expllait Iy added lat the dIrection of ST'rea d resen t men f Now wh en 1 say the theil Prime Mmis! er, Shrimati Indira this, our friendn who support th-: Gandhi, and thi~ was the decision of· the Supreme Court Judgment mrty say that Congress Government and Seal of pr

This is what has appeared in the Indian' This was very very clear, Th... Express on the 17th AU8ust, 1985. This intention of the Parliament is clear and is what Mr. ChtlVafl said when h~ . today the Supreme Court has lone announced the ASSdm accl'rd in the ng,!inst tile intention of the Parliament. House. I quot! from Indian Express dated 17th August, 1985 : Sir, now coming to the interpre., tation giv:n to Quranlc V:rses I must "Mr. Chavan as~erted that the say that they were wrong in their present Government's polJcles interpretation. Isolated versions have were the continuation of the been chosen without any context and policies of Indira Gandhi's given wrODS intel pretation. The Verses Government. The entire approach t,lkcn from Sura Baqra, this is Second. ()f the present Government to all Chapter, Verse No. 241 are not at all the iSjuCS was the same, be .said." the Verses pcrt.iinmg to divorce, iddat and maintenance. No doubt that What was- the policy of Indira Abdullah Yusuf Ali has given this Gandhi? What Wl~ the pollCY of her meaning of m.unteU'lnce to word Mata Government then? When the Home in Verse 241 of Alb.lqra. But let mo Mmistt r says they ar.., ju~t continuing point out very humbly that the same the sam: policy, nothmg different from Abdullah YU'luf Ali has given the that, then I mllst say that they are ml!lJning of M.tta at 11 places, not one bound to bring about this amendment or two. In Sura 2 be says, tax reason­ as was done in 1973, and give pr )tec.. able amount; in Sura 2, Ayat 240 he tion to Muslim Personal Law. Then S1.ys, 'maintenance' ; in Sura 3, Ayat alone you can say that the present 34, be says' 'posscs4Ji')n' ; in Sura 3, Government is following the policies of Ayat 196, he says 'enjoymene; in Mrs. Gan~hi. Here I will just point Sura 9, Ayat 38, he saya 'comfort"; out and m...Lk: a reference, . r do not in Sura 10, Ayat 76, he ..says "little want to take much time of the House. enjoyment' ; In Sura 16, Ayat 117.. he says "profit'; 10 Sura 79, Ayat 37, ho says 'for use and c~nvenience'. It was on Dec:mber t 1, 1~73, in this S,lme august Hous;, Mr. Mirdhd~_ This is how the meanings of AYats the .then Home Mmlster who piloted vary. In a very authentic Arabic die­ Cr. Pro Cod~ Amendmellt Btll, sard tionery and that is LI sonul Arab and while movmg amendment to add the translation of Mata is a single or clause (b) to sub-secti9n (3) of one time transaction: It does not section 127 : mean pay m':m t of maintenance conti.. nuously at all. This is the position HAs I said under the customary or with maoy other tr.lnslations in~ludinl personal Law of cer,ain communi· Mr. Pickthawl and Maulal)a Mandoodi. ties, certain sums are due to a divorced wife, once they are paid ; Now I want to tell you 80111etbiol the magistrate's order i&ving main­ more. They, the Supreme Court have tenance could be canceUed " selected Verse 241 of Sura 2 to say that maintenance should be paid to a Alain, in tbe Rajya Sabha, wbtn divorced wife until she remarries. clause 127(3)(b) of the Bill was intro­ Actually, it is Sura 6S called Sura duced and his amendment was discussed; Talaq meanina Divorce that aives all Mr. Mirdha said: guidance and directions r"sudiol divorce, iddat, and maintonaDce. With.. ·'There is no inteotion to interfere out referring to Sura Talaq .od without with the personal laws of the loins through the Sura concernio, , Muslims throUlh CriJDin,al Pr~ divorce and maintenance, the Supremo -dure Codc."~ Court JudlCI seleot ed an iSOlated vor8. 407, Code olCr~ P., AUGU 23, t 985 , Coie of c..,. ;P. :_ 4Q'8 ,. " sr - I (Amttt.) Bi Ii ' ~, (Amdt.) ,Bill' " ' ,

[Shri Bf,rahirtt Sulaitri'lQ ~ait'J' provisi<1n ~hat a' hU'sband-would-:-be

'from Sura, ~qr,a:: ..th~. j iI, '~aPter .' of ,r~sponstble fOr' ~iA,tc"a~.e; ofl ,h\s , Quian., There i.', not' 'OJle '. singl e divorcelt I \vild during the period or instance or' ,~4elioe'. ,Q.t, liv~' mainfe. ldnat, " , , , " ,~ , ,! I" , Danoe ~to. a· dwpr~d~ ~i~ ,~n.tH,' sh~ remarries ol"i~ies. in .'Jb.e ,entire',. M~Hm Thi~ is the 'at~st --decision Qr July 1st t World~: 'Tber~ ll~ye p~e}l in,t'erpr~~~tiOQ~, . '198 S o'f a :coun't.ry whom' YOU', call", vt;ry , by: ttM PtopJ'te.t 'ijjmself,', 'There have ' "progreflslve. 1 I cite the 'Jexam1)le there been companions, of ,'PrOPh'et" .Sa'baba ..,'~ 'Of a',Mti~1im"eoun'ry aft",tbeir'.de,c)sjo~' , Tht' b~v~ "ivp ·In!erPt:~t~ti~s. ~~ic.ti' :" that' Uie .:. rt1aint~na:ncc .is ~ only' .for t~e arc'diff'erent. 1 T!tepj' ~bere, a-re .leaw:-ned, 'Peri~ of Iddat, an~ not ,beyond. Musitm 'J~t'.ts~· .t1t~r'e "re: " Ui~nlas,' ..) , '" · !' I .. ; i I I Mtl&tfm :~Qhohtrs.·an'd :tbere' have been \ P]tOF."'1 N.O.I RANG,}\;! (Guntur) ; ., • I' "I ,) •• ImcM,s:, of, rOUf ... schQQls' or tbought- I "That means how long? Hanft," Malik it', .~.hafl' t a~~ ,', f.lambli~r.; '. " . • ". '\, N'one 'has saif,i that IilJlintenance bas to'; - gtrRr ,BBRAHlM I'; SULAIMAN :be ';"iven .unti~, di~pr,?,e" re.parritii 'ot '\ 'SAlT.: Three months. dies., Bveryqne is; ,u'Ol\nimpus that:' " I maintenan~e " is,. only for a. period of . '", ~': tHe MINISTER' Of' STATE, Of Iddat.an~ tl()t ~eY~!ld,.,' ,T~js ~ has been" - 'THE -MINISTRY OF 'SHI'P~I~G •A~.D the' 'position for the last 1 ;400 years' TRANSroIlT-(SHRI'Z.R. ANSARI) : without any' interruption. '. " ,', Which coun try? " )" ,- ", 'I" 1 • Muelt ~ ~3id; fLbout qtt~nge~ ,in Muslim CQun$.ries.:, What c:Jlanges llave ~HR:I' £-BRAHIM, ,Sl1L~I~A~ been ,'ma~e jn Mp~lim ,~o'UI)tri~4J'1' SAIT·I: ~Sg;YPt.' 'rthis is Alakhbar dt.' 3rd July, 1985: Notbi~g. , .rhe~' $p~ak ,a~Qu~.paki'ta~,"" Pakist~n just apl:'0in!e~ ,Shari,a CD {, . The, p~rlj~men,t...of ,ha~ , . '" , ".' country mot: and:. has taken (letislons.' " The! 'divorced wlf~ should havto\ The~. is -tbe . paper~, ~f, 1st . ~U~l' l.'9.S~,. maintenanoe 'after, divorce for three If aftybody is Iter,;: who knoWs ,Arabic- months, ,Suppose-she is"pregnant, Janab, 'i.R. Ans~ri ~ S~h'ib may', be the maintenance'is until. tielivery.' knowitlg-I.'~n, pas~ .on , thi'S. paper, ,tQ After that,'· if ,she is feeding tbe him,' He can 'rend the' n'ewsp3per~so child',; 'whatever ,the ,feeding period that he can,see,whether .the 'translation she ,gets ~illtenan(:e/' I. arm aiv,ing ,her~ is co~rect' or .not. ' /,1 ., quOle the, Engli,h, Translation 1 'of the "rIte . maintenance, " wi·I1 be for news from. Alakhbar of Egypt 'dated seven yean for boy and, for. a gid 1st Ju~y, '1"985': ' tutti! she attains maturity;" , , . . .r'," t i \~, ' uThe.:ParIl(lqj~nt o( BgYJ)! recent'J~' . . ' ... ~ ~ . passed,.a comprehenlllive family Jaw "Custody' f)f the :f;hild .i. till then' eo'(erina .tnarri8'gc, :divorce Ujddat'" . !' will of the. mQther• .u , ' , (waiting' period), CU&toay or It is' .very cJea.r~ ~ gain ,after ,t~is the .. ehildren- et~.. . divorctd Wifo go~s ',b\\ck . .to .h~r. .. riat1:1ra~

The newly passed. Law ,includes a I, famHy", ,and thor'~ is c;~,mprehe~sive, law ,Madina..$\lr",s d,ealing with Talaq. The SuPreme Court in ';; ihe 'ju~ahterlt must' have quo*ed ~this ~u~a. an(l nOt 'Sura. Ndbody ~can' dts,uie Qoran t8Dd the Bakra •. , it i$' in :suta Tataq~ th~ f the" t.ra4itidrts br Proptiet • Tohe law is laid ~atter~ 're\atins1to divJ)rce 'lna' hlaTnteJ J dO~ ," id "I Quan. \ ·The Jurists' and nance ~re (fealt witfl and ItherJuii I I • schul,is hive given details in atruthpritn. warning al~p. about the necessify of tiv~ bobtcs like Hidaya etc. Au this- is precaution to .nard against Hs abuse. indi.'Ptftabte' the Quran Says: 1 ~uote :t"her'e ,are a ~se~Misusb or the' facili· the trh.n1ilation of Abdllllah )"usulf ~A1i. ties pr<>~ldetd and. tlbr~is8ioll liv~ , I ' It sayJ: ' Can see .it. Dut because of eettaiil abuse ror certain tdisuse whicb aTO­ exeept!onaJ~ yOu that tb't INTROOOC"rION TO 'SURA ~ cannoit argue LXV (Talaq).· law is Ibad. 1'I\ere i$ 'a knife and Ilf &1 lunatiC? kiUs hjmself with tbat knife. YOll "This 'is the 'ninth of the ten SRQ~t cannot blame1 the knIfe · itaelr, for ~tbe il actio", of tbe maid'. Medinfa Suras dealtog With ~:o.el ~ • I' social life 'or the Cdmmuni~y. Th~ aspect dealt WIth here i~ Dlvprce i hav(1 ~ead out the introduction and the necessIty of preCEl'Lltions to to thl~ chapter on 1divorce.' Now' ~ • I • guard ag,ttnst its abuse. I The quote v.erse (our and six from this Sura. I or I I (' relations of the s&xes .re ap Sura 1>$ wbich IS. called Talaq', tneanrng important factor in the sooial hfe 'dJvorce'. Every minutes detai1 is of the Commun"t)'l, and thIS a"d given,> here. Yon need not icy to any the Tol)oWtng "'Sura deal wlth other book. It anyhody is quoting any certain aspeClS of it. trOf aH Ithiugs \ other unauthentic 'book that' has no permitted by law;" Jaid Lite impoftance. When Quran is hert:, • I • • \ I prophet, "divorce is the most JDJun~oons given In cl ear terms, do hateful In the SIght of God." other book h.u~ any value at all. Tht9 (Abti Daud, Suaan, xiii, 03), While. is tile ba!>lc factor whu:h has to be , the sanctity of' marrtQ.ge is lite born~ in mind Oll)y in cases when you esse&1tinl basis of family Ufo, the cannot $et gUJdarlce 10 Quran, one has incompatibility of in4iyjd"als an,d to 29 to Had (tPt and then Ijtna and the 'weaknesses "r human gature last (tiyas., Here In Sura 6S : 'Vetse' 4, .,.equ'ire certam outlets and saf:- Qurao says: " SuchI ot the women"- • .t> " .. guartis if that sanctIty IS no~ ~o every detal 1 IS glVen- as hd'Ve paRsed the age of qtontltly (:ouTses, ~ the be made into t a fetish. a;t the expense of hUman lIfe •. That l~ presRnbed p~rIod is, nO doubt, three why the question of DJlVorcc IS. in month~". Tbls cleatl')' Stlys that itidat the Sura' Hoked with 'he questiotJ, period IS three months, (here IS no of insolent Impiety and jts doubt whatsoever. If you have an, punishmenh" dou~t about thr~e montb~ yon can KO thrQ~gh it. those who carry life In • 1 ~hei1 womb, the period WIll be tiN they The Prophet lived a.t Mecca and deliver ,the burden. MalHna. He migrated to! Madina und~t: the' Commattd Of Allah from Mecca. Again I quote verse 6 from The revelations were there when he Sura 6S that is Ta1aq. It says: ' Let stayed in Mec..ea and also wh~n be the women live (In lddat) in .the same stayed iii Madins.. style as ye hve, accordifA, to your tncjlns: Annoy them not, so as to This is the Chapter in Qutan Sura rest! iet tbem. And it they carry (-life Talaq which was revealed to pr0pbet in their wombs), then Ipend (your Mohammad at Madilla. It fs sa~d tbat substknce) on them ulltil tbey' deliver'\ thi~ is tho Dinth .of the tm ahort It is very clear. QUl'an says~ that it 411 Code 01 Cr. P. AUGUST 13. 1985 Code of C,.. P. 41 '2 (Amdt., Bill (,4mdt.) Bill

(Shri Bbrahim Sulaiman Sait] question o(.... 'aw of fa.r reaching tbey have 80t lIfe in tbeir womb, that consequ-ences, we feel that th~ . is if they are pregnant, the p"nod of decIsion of tQill Court in Bal idda' is "ill they deliver and they must Tahlra V. Ali Hussain Fida A Ii be paid maintenance till such time and Chorhla and Anr ( j 919 (2) not beyond. It is unfortunate that the sec. 316) .and Fazlum Bi Y. K. clear- injunctions were not considered Khadar Vall (1980 (4) sec. 125) by th~ Supreme Court. 1 have one require reconsidcf".1tion b.!cau8e, in . more very va lid point and tha.t is the our opinion, thl!Y are not only in Supreme Court hels thrown to winds dIrect COI,traventlon of thl:' plain all judicial traditloD& and estabhshed and unambiguous language of conventiont. Here it is a case of S. 12 1t3 )\b) of the Code of Krishna Smgh .. vs·Mathura Ahlr. ThIS Cnmlnal Procedure, 1913 which IS A1R 1980 SC 707. Thl~ Supreme far f( om over·nding the Muslim Court judgement of 1980 $d)! : uThe Personal Law on the subJ .. ct, fundamental fIghts do not t~uch upon proteCts and applies the sam~ In the personal law of pdrties'l. "A ca~e wher: a wife has been judge Cl:.nnot introduce his own cflncept divorced by the husband and the of modern times but ahould enforce the dower specified has been paid and Jawas It is dellved from rec(.)IP l~ed and the period of lddat has bl en authoritative sou ce". In this connection obo)crvcd. The df'clsions also I would like to re(ld out to you one para appear to us to be agamst the from an Article written by an eminent fundamental COllcept of dlvor .... e legal expert Mohammad lsa, a.dvocate, by the hu~band and Its conse.. Calcutta High CQurt : qurnces under the Muslim LdW which has been expressly protectE'd "The Suprem.: Court in the case by 5.2 of the Mush m Personal of Krishna Smgh-vs-Mathura Ahir Law (Sharint) Apphcation Act, (AIR 1980 SC 707) upheld the 1937-an Act whIch was not tradItional Hindu Law tMt a noticed by the afore~J.l\i decl~lons. Sod"a cannot become a Sd.nyasi we therefore direct that the matter and that this does not violate the may be placed before the Hon'ble fundamental rights because 'otthe Chief Justice for beJng heard by a fundamental rights guaranteed by lal ger Bench conslstma of more than Part III of ,h" ConstitutIOn do not three judges. H touch IIllpon the p .!fsollal law of parties/I .. But in the cJse of Md. The Suprc:me Court seem to bi\Le Ahmed Khal, .. vs-Shah Bano completely ignored this reference. Begum (AIR 1985 SC 945) the Supreme Court totally dISregarded MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please thIs principle and perfurmed a conclude. somersault to deny the MU!.hm community the right to be SHRI EBR.AHIM SULAIMAN governed by tb~ir own Personal SAlT: Sir, one mtJrc· point and I have Law.'" done. Without any rhyme or 1:0a$on the SutJreme Court says in the jugmen t Thu~ it is evident tha t the recent Judacmcnt bas brakeD all tradition•• and I am quoting: It is from page 28. It says: SIr. the Supreme Court haa also gone beyond its terms of reference. What

were the terms of referen~e? Now J "It is also a matter of relret that whil.: referring this OdSc the Full Deneb Artic)e 44 of. our Constitution has observed : remolined a dead letter. It. prQ­ vides that the Stato shall end"avour ,. As this calc involved substantial to aecure for the citizens a 41) Code (If Cr. P. BH~t)R.A I. 1.007 (S AKA)' Cttde of C,.. P. 414 ( A,mdt .) BilJ (Amm.) Bill

uniform civil code throuahout' the in the Supreme Court, whi~h ,says : I territory of India. 'There is no quote Again: evidence of an y official activity for framing a common civil code "It is the decided policy of the for tlu oountry." Government that in the matter personal taw, applica1e to the Th:s is what the Supreme Court sayS. minority communities, unJelS the Again the Supreme Cour~ judgment initiative tb~refor comes from the says on page 29 of the Judgment. minorit y comlQunity itself" the Oovernn;sen-t will not take up any C'Inevitably the role of tbe reformer legislation in that field." bas to be assumed by the Cdurt because it is beypnd th-e endurance ... Now. the Supreme Court wants to take of the sensitive minds to allowed up the role tlf a SOCial reformer as it injustice tu be suffered when j t i~ has been" said in the Judgment. Under ralpable. " our Constitution, under Articles 13 of Fundamental Rights and 17 of :Directive I would ]ike to point out thing in this Principles, they have no right and no connection which is worth-remembering. jurls<:itction to do so. It is very clear Whl!n the debate was going on a and this connection, let me quote the common civil code, anq it was opposed f"'molls case of Kcshavanada Bharati Va by many of the Muslim members, thc state of Kerala AIR 193 Sc 1461. It Law Minister Dr. Ambedkar replied W..LS clearly held that ~~The Directive to the Debate. I am quoting from the Pnnciples are not enforceable by court debates. He said, "No Government and that no court can compel the can exercise 'its' power in such a Governm("nt to lay down a Uniform manner as to provoke the Muslim civil cod~ as Contemplated by Article Commumty to rise in rebellion. 44 of the ConstitutlOn of India." But I thil.k in would be mad Government if Supreme Court has sald ~omething to it did so." the con t rary .

"It wiI1 again cite from an Affidavit I am sure ill respect the persona­ filed by the Government of our country lltv of Maulsna Abu} Kalnm Azad. I in the Supreme Conrt, which speaks in want to invite your attentinn and the unambiguous terms. This i'\ the Cllse of attention of the hon. Mini~ters to what Ms. Shehnaz Sht'kh V Is Government of he has said. In the Congre"s of India and Others, Writ Petition No. Se~sion Ramgarh in 1940, th S WdS what he 13451 of J 983 tiled in the Suprem ~ said. Thi., was the c()mmitment of Court. Government pf India has 'taken an the CL)nr"'e~s Party eyton before indepen­ authentic stand. Our Law Minister Mr. Sen must be aware of this and must be dence. Mu1ana Abul K.-' lam Azn

tlln any e.ent, Directive Principles I am a Muslim I feel proud that are not Illllndatory, a~d they I atn a Muslim. I have got as lcracr cannot be enforced/' the 1300.yeat 01<1 gloTlous Islamic traditions, I am not prepared to W Jste It is very clear. This has to be t.aken even the ~mallcst part thereof. as the declared policy of the Covern­ ment. Their policy has been very The teachings, history, knowledge clearly laid down in the Affidavit filed and arts of hlam, a ld the bJu.rnic , ,~ 01 Q'6 P. 41' trc."dt.) Bill

IShri ebra~im Sulai,JUlo SaUl ·Cmnsl.tlon] .. ~~~~ti?~ \ ~~el' m~·L .~sel. ,sand it i. BUt. I' .oItim~~3r, e.ftiTrn ,~t Muslim my duty to preserve them. do not .~ ,.11, n~od I ~~.~ntroduce ts.,lilh] 'reforms ,~.d . modific;at~~ in their,

l 1 '''' 1 r.UajGn beeaus., ~"r.Rt,sa are com­ "1-ain not' prepajed ,at Jl,ny cost to ph~tel (belll6c:lv~R., TJl~re l fill . is 00 .iv~.up II-ev~nl 'the , .mahest patt r$c<)p«" \ fori: ,an)'. ,A\o.dijlction or I>f'the ''sJu,~liiI,'t~e 'Muslfm Perso­ . IItform in them.

nal 'baw.,N • ! [English] , t) ~ 1 I 1\ 1\'1) J... li.l. This was what Mulana ADUI Kalam , j ) ... \; ,.&. • \ ( "It=iS' IVery l'olMr . t~tl '$)lariat, the ~zad aal(\ laid in 1940 •.t Ao'd be wtnt 'Muslill1 JPeFSonall.Law QCeds.no change .~ .01 OIl to say ••• " I t 'whatiso1cver" Jt,bas tp, r'Ol~n for ever t 'I-: ," l'''; \,..... {, ~ l ...J '. .,' as it it. auu K.P. UNNll<'RISHNAN : oil +,: '._ ,'," I', I , • ~ I ,

I I We '~?':Il~ "~~ ~ap~f ~tbat Sait ~heb l' ". tian), membe.tll., "'hile ;J supporting ,hW' ~e~.o~e a, r~l,lOW,e~?r t~~ Maulalta. the Supreme I C9,U{t"l j\ldament and

~\lt.e v ~hou~t~ . ~!~o ct~~~~1 what' 'all opposing * Sbri Banatwa1u..'$; Bill have Mlwtlba said on varIOus oth'er stlved that- women· b~vQ DP" place under . , " thinas. 'i$lam~' What aa 'i.np(8.9ce! They I I )'V 'know ['nothing about I it. I~lam is the :. .t .~~~:J' .; BBR'A'Hi¥' \ SULAIMA\N J , ~ \ t II ~ • .. .. III. ,~.. '. ~ 'I ,to ,. 'only Ideo~e>1Y ,whjch ,h4f liven a ~Atr : :rI!is is very important. PltUo 1to"itibn, .respec11 J)1at.u~ ,and even pro­ lIsten to what he uid. 'p~t-ty rights lo-.wopu:n. Tb~f~ is no other /' .like Llslam, I 4oc!s all this [TralUlailonJ Ijy,dem, .t"at which- 'giVes llu.cb prQmjl)~nce, status The people" who' are' well aware and P'OSitilOn tOs wome~ l.l have got a , "l" I, • " II") ",. I ,of lh~ ch~nJil)l times, lCilow th,at the 'q\lotatioAI nlt:re .trom. .J~st.ice Krishna I r- . I ~ If' .. , I r, ,. {ol~o\\~l'8 ,of all reh.iQos 1n the world Iyer '&ou\ the .,Islamic I,..tw. He says " " ,r. t!' I " ; 8.J'C incHned to briug avout reforms in hii, '!is!ami: LiJ.\\! ,i{11 Mt>d~l'n India'" , ) , • , If. I ... I. ' ( I J ,and modifi'1&tionl in their respeCtrve' (pale 13) : , 1 ' ... to. ,. I I I. III >1 ,rdj,,~~: :tb1s ~~~~~SIS :o~ I~?nlinl abo~~ r~for~s ~ ~.~e~ ,oi,n~ J !D on for the .~ A '~cuJar a'qd--p(~lqI.tic appr

[Brtgll,h] Alain ~ saya :

,4,'Th'e I 1 /i)f They -Could 'DOi' keep' ~pao" with .t~~ . only ".t~~ 'naarit{lllaw cbaDIi.ng timea. 10 I Ia4ia' whicb lacOtepta the ultra mo¥~o, but, rAPO~ibl)' roatiatic And Finally Ma:u'Ia~la Abut Kahim' I ~c1'~f ~bt~l('QWQ;&8 alain.t Azad sa:d : fMll\ iI-ijn hlam." .-17 Co. o/Or. ''II BRAD~ 1, 1'0' (S~Kd)' Cod, tlIC,. ~ 411 -(4""".) Bill (A.m4t.) Bill

Thist. wbat Krjah~ ~_ sa,.. -Finatly Tltia sives ott the correct picture. lot me be abort and. Jus, 4uot'c Sye4 ' Not the Supreme Court Jud.t"ment. Amir Ali from bit famous hoot: The.; ar~ tbe raets. I bave quoted tho u f"Spirit of Is1Am • lie says; But the Qtlraai, 1 have quoted out Constitution teacher who in an ale when nQ country" and as. monticllied by the oolioes Qf the no system" no cOllllDunhy ~ .ave ADY Indira Gandhi Government" and .bout tJaht to womeD maiden Of marrieci, the int(lntions of parliament to mother or wife" who io a country where protect MUslims Personal Law. 111ave the birth of daulhter was considered a also' told you what MauHma Azad hacl calamity secu red to the .~x rIghts which said about shariat and personal law of are only unwillinsly ~nd under pressure Islam. Coosiderin, all these thin... being conceded to them by the CIVilised the Supreme Court judlment is against nations in the twentietll centuty the Muslim Personal Law and it i. a deserves tbe sratitude of humanity''' • flagrant violation and misinterpretation • of holy Quran th: only way to chaHen,o Now, they say that a common it is to accept Shri DaDa twalla>a code civil is ne~ded for national inte­ amendment so that Muslim Personal .ration. But national integration will Law may be protected and 10 to pieces with a common civil code. • tho Muslim minority can enjoy . India is a plural society. It bas 'Iot 10 secularism and the people of this many religions. It is a multi.. reHaiou~~ country can have their religious freedom . multi·cultural. and multi-lingual country. guaranteed under the fundamental Thorefore, it is not possible to have rights of our ConstitutiOQ. If this is DQt absorption or assimilation. It can never done all the declarations of ,government work. The other day we presented a will become a farce and the fundamental memorandum to our Prime Minister right auarantced ill cbe ConstitutioD Rajiv Gandhi on 'bebalf of Muslim will have DO value whatsoever Hope Board. quod", Perlona1 Law I am just under the circumst&ftces Parliament from this mem orandum. It said,: will realise lts duty aDd act• "National iotearation lid in the . )4.00 hra. acceptance of divcraity and DOt. in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER.: Tile iroposina uniformity; it lies in time allotted' for the Bill i, already mutpal trust and confidence and over. 1..t is going to be 4. V. We havo • Dot in distrust and' suspicion. already extended once by one hour and National intelration will be steen,­ for the second fime by threc hours. tho-ned when every roliaious deno­ We have h"d a total of six hourI. mination feels reliaioualy eecure By bow many more bours cap we exteD4

and aatisfied and convinced thaC it DOW? i their relision in all tta ,.sential +rHB MINISTBR. OF STATE IN aspects is ..fo aDn. There is, thu~, TRY OF BOMB AFFAIRS (SHRI ARIF no further scope fC?t discussion on a uni .. MOHAMMAD KHAN): Hon. Deputy 'form civil cnde. I am saying this' be.. Speaker. Sir, I am thankful to YOll for cause sometimes c~rlain statements in the givins me an opportunity to speak on matter of religion are rTJa'de in such a this Bill. Before, 1 begin, I would like manner as to arouse sentimeAts. If we to say that this is an area of law, of go on teJling and arnusing the senti- Shariot, of FlqhtJ ,(I'Slamic Scriptures), ments of the COmm(lO man, who does not where JlO opinion can be given easily or fufly understand the law, that the Sharial casua])y. When I rise to speak, I do Law and its interpretatIon is being inter- not at an claim that there' is an element fered with and, ~s Sait ,Sahib was saying, or fipality in whatever I am going to say. that this law was a law revealed, then it But one thiog I must say that since is 'bound to arouse his sentiments. Only Shri Sait repeatedly said 1hat he was two weeks ago, while speaking on ,this quoting from the Holy Quran and that snbject, Sbri Daga said .cert~in things-I other Scriptures could also be quoted, would not say that he has not studjed it I assure you that I shaH quote from proJ1erly, he is a senior Membrr of this nothing but the Holy Quran and the House- but even if he has studied, he Hadis and should I happen to refer to has not been able to derict a true picture any other source, I request the hon. of hfam. What he sp('lke le'd Shri Sait, Members not to take such references info Shri Ranatwalla and Shri Owaisi to be consideration at all, But I would cer- on their Jegs together and 'say emrhati. tainly like to quote from the Holy Quran caJly that the Hou~e was being used as and the Had/s. I understand that Shri a forurn for arou<\ing sentiments, BeJjve Banatwalla's Bill is based on the judge- me,'I also did not like wh r tever he ment of the Supreme Court about which said, but did not evjnc~ those very Banatwalla Sahib and a number of other feelings; my feeling is that we have hop. Members feel that it is an assault beeh Jiving in this country' togt"ther for on the Muslim Personal Law or an inter- centuries, we follow dIfferent reJ'gions. ference with It. and about the reltgion which we follow, what its true picture is. what its true, So rar as a uniform civil ,pode is con.. teachings are, what its real mesc;age i~, cerned, the Governtnent have JlUl.de their we have· not been able to apprise our stand clear not once blft repeated1y and I brethren or this country till today, We do not think any further ... clar'ficatit)n is have been lackin~ somewhere; we have needed in that respect. After the Supreme llgged far b~hind in dOing our duty in Court judgement. the Prime Tvtmister had that we have not been able to ten' them made a statement, A woman had ap­ so far what I~1am in the true sense is. proached tbe SUJ"reme Court seeking re­ But at J'lfe~ent ~o far as this Bill is con .. • medy unde, the Criminal Procedme C:ode. cerne'l, the only thing worth consirlcra. If under that provibion the court consi­ t ion is that a un iform civil code or the dered that she had a right, the court quest;on of fundamental Rights is not might grant justice to her, and if the a (luhject of this debat~. Government's court considered that she had no right, stand on t"em is very clear. The point the court might not grant that, and if the ,which needs c(J'1sid~rati.on is whether the Court considered that she was not ccwered Supreme Court judgement affects the by thllt provision, the court could give Law of Shariat ? I would go a step fur .. its opinion accordingly However, the ther and say that the Supreme Court Supreme Court went a step further and Judgement eQuId be in just one individual gave its opinion about a uniform civil case. and juc:;. about two 'monlhs back, code also. But, since the Supreme Conrt the Chief Jut;tice of' India issued a sf'lte .. has no "Power to frame a uniform civil ment that the Judges or the Supreme code, it simply gave its .opinion, Arter Court were after all human beings and the judgement of the SUt)reme court, when they could also err in toeir understand. the Prime Minister mnde a statement ing, they cou1d also misinterpret a certain 421 Co~ of Cr. P. BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Cflde 0/ Cr. P. 42% (Amdt.) Bill (A.mdt.) Bill law; therefore, we '}eave aside this judge.. • (Interruptions) .•• ••• I have DO dispute, D)eQt of tbe Supreme Court allo. Tho just listen to me •••••• (lnterruplions) basic question is whethor Islam;c teacb. inl8, Islamic Law abd tho intention of SHRIARW MOHAMMAD KHAN: Islamic Law are in any way affectea by 'Please keep calm; I am explaining it. Sections 125 and 127 or the Criminal What was the objecthle behmd tbe Procedure Code and it so. -the appreheo ... provision ot the Crimanal Procedure lion is We'l~.founded in that regard. But. Code 1 t would read it out, if )'ou 80 as I have afr("8dy submitted nothing desire, but it is not netc$Sary. We have should be locked at emOtionally. I thlOk already discussed it a number of ti meso ,time and ~gaiti it bas been decreed that The question now is whether the we should try tl") understand tt e Quran. Slwriat Law enjoins any responsibi­ (Interf1uptlons) i would not be able to lity 00 the ex-husband in regard to a refer to the Aayat text in Arabic, but woman in question, i.e., a women who would, perbaps. be abr~ to refer tJ its has been divorced' This, I think, is a translation, and say that we havo been fundlAmerttal quest ion wblch needs to be ordamed not to understand religion frum looked at ftom a juristic angle. I havo any other source but to understand it already said that when a woman has no by reading tbe tMt, and to practise it in medDS of subsistence, nor tbe capability life. (lnterrupt;()nl). oC makang a liVing, If she, ·under the. secular laws of so,,"e other country, gots First, let us see what the -provision of malotel1ance from her ex-husband, who the criminal PrC'cedure Code is. The has been compelled to do so, then tho Criminal Procedure Code provides that pomt is whether the IslamiC Law is a WOMan, who has been dworced but who affected by it, I thmk we shall have to ~s without any means of subSistence, who. look at both these aspects. is not capable of making a living, has a fight to maintenance -allowance fcom her SHRI OWAlSI (Hyderabad): What former husband. From which husband? is your opiDlon ? . From one who is competent and has means and resources. This provision of SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: the CrimlOal Procedure. Code does not I am comlOg to tbat. Whatever be my apply indlscnrninateJy to every husband understandmg of it, in thiS matter I and wife wbo are separated from each shall depend on the Aayuls of tbe Holy otber, but rather this proviSion is for Quran. Thereafter, we would decide. I those Wt)men only who have no means of have listened to the speeches of two or subsistence, who are also not capable of the bon. Membels of our party. They making a Jiving. toO said that the Sura·e-Bakr is not related to the cases or divoroe. I was astonished to listen to hon. Sbri Sait, 16.09 bra. but I cannot challenge him, he being a' more learlled person; he is also senior [ SHR.I SOMNATH RATH In the Chair ] to me in age, But then, the(e is tbe \ translation ,rendered by Maulan. Abdul It is for them only. To my mind, Majid Dariyabcldl, which has tbe approval what we have to see is that tbls proviSIon of Rabta-e-Alak lslami, and tben there is meant only for those women who are js another translation by Yusuf AU totally desiatute, who bave no means of Maulaoa Azad also, but I would begio sub'slsten~e, who cannot keep lheir body • with Maulana Abdul Majid Dariyabadt and soul together-only such women would I now come to the Aayats of tbe Quran' be called destilutefl only for them. And that would enlighten us, if we want to I repeat it is only for 8t1ch WOOleD who be so enllghlened by the instructions or hove DO meaDS of ....'ooOj. the byats in the matter of div()rcc. I would not' refer to ODe dQyats alone, PROP. SAlFUDPIN SOZ (Bara­ bUt sdll we ahould chock up from tbe mulla) : Tbis is yOW' own iaterprctatloo ••• lodox from whero the liaht Ibould be 423 C(Jd. 0/ c,. p. AUGUST 23, ~9B" Qorh D/Cr. P. 4~4 (Arndt.) Bill {Amdr .. ) Bill [8brl Aril 'Johadmlecl Khan] . .,how after bi~tb a romale child wal D~r\e4 aliw, 'Women had DO derived. Sbrl Sati ball called the Brst bow ri.hts. bow Islam started a crusado aaainat thes. Surat a8 irrelevant to the issue. This is tho Surat which bas been mentioned practices and secured tor women , states in society, The Prophet wont to Irst of all. Now. you count the Aayats 18 $ur_1I-228; 229, 230, 231, the extent of s3)'ina that tbe Had!', SharI! ordained tha t in the case of Oil~ who 236, 237, 241 227 is also there­ ."d had a' Auahtert and who nurtured and there are about nine ila1ata in an in brought her UP well-this was up to Sura-...Bokr about divorce on which Shd tilree dau.hters .. edJJcated them, made Salt o!,inos that theto arc Dot very much ~ them c~Jtured and tauaht thc.m koow)ed$C' telated 10 divo~. of crafts, between him and hell shall. He S9RI G. M. BANATWALLA Itand, i.~... for him the fires of Hell Divorce or Matta is ~oot in question, my shalJ be fotbidden. Why do t say aU Bill i. on maintenance. this '1 tf we accept it basically that Islam does ndt recognize the tiabts of SHRI ARJF MOHAMMAD KHAN: women, theo we shall have to accept TbcD there is another S/Jtrl.lt. Surat-6S that all these things in the Shar;at c(!)ntaining Aayats from .one to seven. concerning women's" rights. should be Theb tbere it Aavat.r.4 in Surat-e·Nis done away with. Our Government which has been more emphasized it is stand committed to it. Our Gdvern ... related to divorce. - There is a mention ment talk peither of a uniform code, of SlJra-6.Ahjab ID Sural·] J, there is Aay.. nor of interference with the Pttlusllm Dt9-28, included in the indc-x. I have also PersQD,al Law. That is why I say let us ,one tbrough MaulaDa Abdul Majid Dari­ know the basics of it, from what angle yabadi-tbe position there is almost the . Islam looks..at women, how it has ·nti,ed same as is obtaining e1sewhere. . the status of women, how Isram fostered a s~nse of pride in ha~iog a daughter Now I come to the question of divorce, born in a society where they used to be Me.hr and tbe issue of maintenance buried and regarded as a shame upon the connected with it.· These cannot be seen house. Where a woman, a airl, has been in isolation. These should be viewed etevated to this position of prestige. we from the pOint of view what duties .are shall have to see whether this .prestigious •enjoined upon the husband in respect of position is to obtain only for upbringing a divorced womao. It will be viewed or it will continue for the entire life after from this angle. This may appear to be matriage, we have to see it. In this con­

irrelevant t{) begin w~th. but I am' nection f I was saying that with marriage mentioning it because the arguments is linked Mehr and Mehr is o1>ligatory which I am loing to advance are relevant. under the Mu~Jim Law. the proposed Mention bas been. here of Me"r Bill provides that where a sum h"s been repeatedly. There is a line in the . paid under the customary Of persona) Supreme Court judgement which seems law, that woman will have no right '0 ask to imply that jn Islam, the position of for malDtenance, but the amount of money a woman has beeq shown as a de.faded !.IO given wlt1 not be Questioned in a court one. I have laid my hands on several of law. Saito Sahib has' agreed to· 'one . authOrities. I wanted to quote aJ I time transaction., what Abdullah Yusuf those authorities whicb sholl' -the real Ali caUs frna ntenance' . J have quoted status of woman. in Islam, the stalul of Abdul Majid DariyaJ,ladi. He has gone equality, which put end to cruelty and beyond that. SaH Sahib had .said COne .. excisscs. Since ~hri Sail has ~t a titl1e transaction'. I Say that if the fone. restriction, I would not go into those time transaction' is such that tbe woman details, but, am confinina myself to the can keep her body and soul together, have Qurllu and t'he Hadia, although l have a rQOt ovtr her bead, can make botb ends . with me the view of Splr~ "of Islam by meet, then that womeD would automati. An_ Ali and Wonra" aM Islam by M. callY,be depriyed of soinl to tho Court,

Zabiruddin .ad others. I need not 10 • fOf1 under the Criminal procedure Code, into wbat practices were prevalcnt here. only that womlJl cap ,0 to t&e COWl to .,2' eo_ DIC,~ 1'. Cob 0' CI'.. P. 4a~ CAIn ••) Bill · (Amdt,,) Sal

_Ie 'iD.iutonance ~b'8 hal DO meia. to" place or not, if there "as • valut rotire. support betself. If a", wbDlab bas bOeo men, evea then tbe WOIDaQ "becomes uti. Idvet1 a larae tum as Mehr. and if tbe tied to- hutban~ 1a)'8 t-bat a Althr., of RI. 5 lakhs lJas bcc:io ~liveD Which brinss .0 much of (3) Meltr t.y the death of tho husbaad income aotJualty. then 'how caa such .. 01 the wife. worn.n ~ called a dtstitute? Therefore, the provision of the Criminal Procedure . [Trans1alton] "I Code itself is clea"abof,lt it that SU9h'f These are the three conditions under wom:m will have 00 Tiahr. The provision whJch All h,. is duJy confirmed to be pard. of the Criminal Procedure Code is only Tbe Encyclopaedia of Islam say. tbat, for those" woman who are without any 'means which. '5 I take it, may also [E1I81l.rh] ioclg,de a caso where she has DO parenti, perHaps no btother too, and even if there It belongs absolutely to tho wife. be one, he is not pr.paretl to support ber. .. My ai(11 in saying 10 ~te(t1y is that we (Translation] shaH haye to proceed with this distinction, It is her personal property. Tbe idea this djfference as to what the provision ~ behind it is tnat she leaves her bome to n:aUy is. Coming to Mehr. Mehr hal no Join another. She must have 10 much relatioD with divorce. It is wrona that it 80 mcans- obtained ill practice that it came to be of two kinds.one, prompt Dower, the other, deferred Dower. tEnglish] u--which she can operate indepen­ Acxodring to Islam- . denth or hel husband and in-Jaws'''.

(English] [Transl~tion] -Mehr is a sum of money or that pro­ She should have money at her disposal perty wbich the wife is entitled to roceive to meet her ne

.[Translatlon] [Tro1lSlotlon) Which i8 called 'KhaJvtltl Sahlh'. Bven if M ehr i .. not meDtioDGd in the • Nikahnama, tbe woman sball be entitled [E",II.rh] to Mehr accordioa to htr .octal and "'Jtbo\lt aoina ioto the details, whether finadcial position. In Abdul' Quadi'''' QOI1Surmn"ioll ot matri.ae has taken . case of 1866, it has Men decided : 427 Cod, 0/ Cr. P. AUGUST 23, 1985 Cod~ of 0,. 1'. 421 (Anult.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill IShri Arif M.ohammad Khan] lli"gllsh] [~n61;sh] uAQd give the womct1 on their mar. riage t-l\eir Dower as a free Sift,' ·'It is not consideration in ~ he modenl but jf they of their own good eense of the term, but aD obijgaUon im .. pleasure, remit any part of it, posed by tbe law lJI,'?OD the husband as a take it 8Qd it-with riab~ mark of respect to tbe wife. Tbis is enjoy Boad made abundant))t c1ear by the author or cbeer." Uidaya in their 'SQUrces of tbe Law' that [1 fl'«malqtio1l1 t~e payment of tbe Dower is enjoinell by Law merely as a token of respect for· the PROF, SAIFUDDIN SOZ: " Where i. wOman. We, therefore, conclude that the difference of opini~n in it.: ••.• mentioning it is not absolutely essentIal to the validity of" tho marriage. ~HRI ARlf' MOHAMMAD KHAN: By 'saYing aU this, 1 mean t~ empbasiZ: that [Translation] Mehr is out or respect, M~hr is -' birdal SHl'lI G.M. BANATWALLA : Do you gift, and has no Felatlon with divorce at all; consider Hidaya authoritative or not? But Mr/tr is relaled to marriage only, it has no )'ou said you would only refer to the relation with dIvorce. If you associate Quran and the Hadis .... (Interruptions) tt with divo,~ e, tilen we would not be doing justice wltb this Jaw, this is all I mean to say. SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: But I had added that you should not consi .. der anything which I might quote from sour­ Maulana Azad's translation is a$. under: ces other tban the Quran tbe Hadl f I re­ gard tbem an autbontative. ~ut Shri Sail has · put a restriction on me. That was why [English) I had said that I would quote the Quran "offer the womc:n their Dower and the Hadis only . .. (Interruplions) ungrudgingly since they nave a right to it, but if of their own sIitll G,M. BANATWALLA: The free will they giv~ back a part Hidaya is very ancient; do you agree to it ? thereof to you, then make use of it as you will." SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: The QUfttn is the basis of everythmg [Trans/ation] (Interuptions) Sir t this is the only diffe. I say this repeatedly SO that you may renee In tbe entire approach. Shrj Banat­ understand it. Now. SJr. after I have walla says we should read, but as I s4id clarified so far from translations of tbe 'at the very outset, I was fully conscious Quran aad made clear the meaning of of my limitations. You continue to be Meht and its interpretation in tbe Islamic the spokesman~ I do not wish to. be one, Law, I would like to corne to the provision am conscious IImitaUons, tor, 1 fully or my about divorce. As I said earlier, 115 re8ard~ I had said in tbe ~ery beginning that this the Surals and Aayats dealing with was a highly sensilive subject; 1 must divorcc-Shri Abdullah Yusuf Ali's trans.. speak on it; but I would not claim that ~ lation, which was also used by the th.,re is an element of anality 10 what. I Supreme Court, that is the translation of say. I cOhgratulate you pn your con. 241-1 would like to read out the trans. fight, it is tinuioa to be a spokesman ..•.•• lation of 228.

SHRi G.M. BANATWALLA All [En.rUlh] not eve. for him to be 10. "Divorced women shall wait con­ cerDing themselves for tbree SHItI ARIP MOHAMMAD KHAN monthly periods. Nor is it Sir. AbcfDllah Yusuf Ali in b.ia tr&DllatioD lawful for them ~ hide what in Aayat 4. Surat 4 says : G04 hath created }Q th:i» 429 Col.. oler. P. BARna A I , )907 (SAU) Cod~ 01 Cr. 1'. 430 ( .."""t.) Bill (Au;dt.) Bfll . ... wombs if they have the faith in have to dtvOl'Qe.tbe period of divorce should tbe God anc;t the Jast dv- tbeir start from the period of purity. Durin, husbands bave tf1e .better right this ~riod, tbe husband and l.be wife to take them back in tbat should no( Ii ve in isoltltioD from ft<:b period if they wish rocoo~ilia­ other. rather, they should bave a sads­ dOQ." ractioG to come closer. At ,uch a time, when )'OU have come to a conclusil)~ that you cannot live together, tbat you canDot {Translation] maintain the limits set by the Almighty Now. I wou'd like to read out what and tha t you have to separate from each Mautaoa Abdul Majid Danyal)adi says in other, then what sb(.lUld be the coarse thIs regard: of divorce in such a situation? The course is that it would be effective bn Jy [English) after three months .when the divorce is pronounced in the third month. The " And the divorc~d women shall method of divorce prevailrng today as keep themselves in waiting for also the IDC'th04 adopted by the 'ent­ three courses-nor is it aflow!d kmen whose spouse had knocked at the to them that they showld con­ door of the Supreme Court has not been ceal what Allah has cr~ated in envisaged in the Quran. their womb~ jf they believe in AUah· and the last day their Sir, when the first Law CommissioD husbands are more entitled to was aonstituted in Pakistan, it was also their rcstoratlon during the confronted with the question whether same If they seek rectification. U this method of divorce IS justified or not. It has been said in this connectioo that Then it is further said: "when a husband pronC'unces Ta,laq to HAnd if they re§olve on a divorce, his wife _brice m the same breath, it then they should not forget the i'i cottnted to be Talaq only once and fact of theIr having decided not thrice according to Rat;uHualIah upon-suppression will not go SaJallahu Alahe VasaIJam, Abu Bakr unnoticed by God if be heareth Siddiq and Ornar Ibne Kkattab." Divorce and knoweth." becomes effective {)Oly after it 18 pronoun­ ced thrace. But it a husband prOn01JDCes Tal(1q thrice in the same breath, is was [Translation] not counted as pronounced thrice but Sir. I have read out these AaYflts as was counted to be pronounced' only they are an related to divorce . once, during the days of the said Abu • Bakr and during the days or AbalJe Khilafat i,e, the earlier period of the Besides, I would like to read the first caliphate of Hazr~t Omar. "At that Aayat Sura.e-Talaq in which it h"ls bee~ time thiS method was plevalent but it stated that :- underwent sorre changes in the course of time, Deqpite this, Omar Ibne [English} Khatfab ordained this Ta!aq (IS Taltlq-e .. BaeC'1f a~ If It had the meaOlog or Three "'When ye who divorce WOrI)eo, Talaqa as per the word~ of the hus­ divorce them at their prescrfbed band." in that context. As at pre~ent, period and count accurately tbe whole of Sltariat js seen with great their prescribed ~riod, and (ospect. OU" 1"1'1 a Courtiry whcre the rear God or Lord and turn people have re~d not only for their them not out of their houses, own religion but for the reli!llons of DOf shall tlley themselves leave .... ' othors too But; I think it is not proper , to misint~rl'Crt a thing, It has to be (Translation] seen what &.~ariat is. Shri Hidayatutlab. This rdates to the J)Osf-tfivorce period. in h1s introduction to Mulla's What itt being said here t. that when ·YOU MolUmtmet/an Law, wbich 18 cOI'lsjdered the 431 Cod, of Cr. P. AUGUST 23, ~~8S Code 0/ Cr. P. 432 (A.mdt.) Bill (Amdt.) BtU

[Shri Arir M oh,mmad ~an] would become effective. But, with the most autboritiative text in the Courts, passsle of time, thc provision madc for says: the women was used by tbe menfolk for. their own benefit. I do Dot call it 'Don-Islamic' method, but surely DO sucb [E",.lish] provision exists in the Quran for adoption "Accordina to the classical 'belkf of of such method. But 1 have never heard the Muslims the word b( God;s Jaw and . it from any guardian of law that this law is thd command ot God. This Jaw nlelhod finds ncfl mention in the Quran is known as Sharial. Fiqha, which is and, therefore, should be discarded. jurisprudential in character i8 the ascertaintmen t of the right principle.In toe I w.as speaking 6 bout these procedures. r word of God is iD~Juded. of course. "Despite this, Omar Ibne Khattab ordam­ the Koran, but the Divinely inspired ed tlds TalatJ as Tahlq·e-Baeen as if it SlInna of tllC prophet ranks equal. These had the meaning of three' TaJaqs as per two ~re immutable and the only room 'he wf1rds of husband." The reas~n was for.'1be exercise of human reason is in that when Hazrat Omar Ibnc Khattab their· understanding," .. ~cticed -that the people made a mockery of this divorce and such divorces were [Translallon] beir g made in large number, he iotroduc­ But, apart from this, there arc a ed this change With a view to punishing number of laws different from the Quran ahem and forbiddinB thenl from following and the Sunna which are n')t directly this bad habit. based on the Quran and the ~llnnQ For example, the prevalent method of giving Hazrat Omar Ibne Kbattab, as per the "vorce by pronouncing 'Talaq' thrice needs of his times, made changes in the 'Is not approved by the Qliran. The course propounded by the Quran, Rasul ; ~hod was not in the days of the and Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq. At thal Prophet. It was also not prevalent time he Doticed the evil spreading and did during tbe days of Abu Siddiq. Now, su to check the evil. 1 say it is an irony of fate that Omar Ibae Kbattab had permitted it only Some Islamic scholars did not consider because tbe people knew th~t pronouDcing it b~tter in view of the conditions prevail· Talc1q thrice would be treated as one iog io their timel) and thought it proper count. Therefore. tbe husband divorced, to incline towards Sunnat-e-Nabwi as per thrice Tbereafter the womao got fright­ the principles of Tagayur-e-Islam. The ened and her rigbts were got transferred followiQ& is an extract from the proceed­ to his own name. Then, as per tbe ings of tbe Law Commission of order be knew that that would be couoted Pakistan :- ouly as one, therefore, he re-established contacts with the woman. He followed the style pronounced in the QUran - do "An eminent scholar commented 00 Dot force out the woman, live with her· this provision and said that this in the same style, behaVJ with her . provision made by Omar is like properly, for Allah may create ~uch cir­ ,an emergency commandment. '9 cumstances as may help you meet again . . When tbe tbird mooth approaches, the " This is an emcrgencv provision which husband pronounces divorce for the (hird wc have adopted in our life today. There time, and the divorce then would is no objection to it because it provides become effective. - freedom to the mao and so it does not affect tbe law. But if a provision is Hazrat Omar Iboe Khattab made tbis made for a woman the dignity of whom provision to protect the rigbts of tbe bas been empbasised by Islam. who is a women and to instil a (eeliol of fear in destitute. to cnable ber to keep ber body those usina it as a tbreat, that if tbey aDd soul tOlctber then tbe lalamic law pronounced Talaq thrice. tbe divorce • is !ffeeted. But it baa never been saki 433 Cede 01 Cr. P. BHADRA 1, 1907 (SAKA) Clld. 01 Cr. P. 434 (A_dt.) Bill (Amdt.) .Bill tnat this Talaq-e-lJaeen' which has never about the fact that Islamic law was beiDa been envisased in tbe Quran. aff~cts tbe affected by the wrong use of the emer. Islamic 18w. gency commandment that bad' been issued and tbat this adversely affe~ted tilCir image. Tbe guardians of Jaw protest This is what the Commission says: only when they are told to shoulder cer;­ [Eng/ish] tain responsibility. There may be any num\'>er of rights. Everybody is eager 10 "It is essential that this divorce should have oach and every risht. A husband be followed by two further pro. cen tUfn out his wife just in one minute nouncements in two subsequent aDd in the nex.t minute he can change his Tohars. decision, but when he is asked to shoulder responsibility. he would ask, "What res. [Trans/ation] ponsibility 1" If after keeping the wife rfor three months dudng the period of purity and As I have said earlier, 1 think there is during the perfbd when both of them no doubt about the sanctity of the posi­ may have attraction also for each other tion of woman, her status, and her rights.. they arrive at the conclusion that they under the Islamic Law, and all this bas cannot lave together, there is recourse to be particularly kept in mind. As 1 10 divorce. But to say talaq tbrice in said earlier. the women were leading a the same breath-l am not saying that it life of humiliation and inferwrity. That 18 un-islamic-is not in any way related was what I meant. Now it we have to the Quran, it has not been envisaged to disCharge our responsibility towards 10 the Quran. her, what would be our attitude?

The most interesting q~otatjon is:- The translation of Sural 229 by AbduJJdh Yusuf is as follows : [E"gli\h] "And it is authentically reported by [El1glish] Ibn-e-Qayyum that Khallf Omar 'tA return to each other is permissible was extremely sorry to have al­ \ even after divorce has been pro.. lowed It even 8S an emergency nouDced tWIce (jn two succeSSlve mC.Jsure" - IGHA SATULLA. months ,. Thereafter two ways H FAN P. t 5 I). are open before the husbands­ an honourable retention or a [Translation] graceful parting (after tbe pro­ nouncement af divorce for the Durini the last' moments, he fclt ex. th ird time in the third month). tremely sorry to have allowed such a type And it shaH nOl be proper for of divOrce Abdul Rahim has called it you while divorcing your wives to an innovation. What I mean fO say is take away anythmg out of what that Shri Sait was saying that the Shariat you have givln them:' was 'revealed'. But tbis particular por­ tion of the Shariat is not 'revealed'. [Tran9lationJ Let us get it surveyed on how many of What is the option after ,wo months' those who have divorced their wives haVe) There are two alternatives-one is an followed the provision of the QuraD.· ho.nourable retcDtion and tbe other is a You may get it surveyed how many graceful parting. It is not that she should people have knowledge about tbe method be kicked out of the bousc. Either re. of divorce enshrined in tbe Quran. tain her honourably or Jet her patt atacefully• ••• (Interruptions) . I would quote Sural 230 Ja~r OD. J fcr} that if there was some guardian Now I came.(o Sural 23 I . Tho traosla. of tbis law. he sbould bave felt concerocd tion which I baVe quoted just DOW b .. 43S Codt til Cr. p~ AUGUST 23, 1985 Code of Cr. P. (Amd,.) BiJ 1 (Amdt.) Bill [Shri Adf MOhammad Khan] her part gracefully. In Surat 23 1 also, stress has been laid on lame thinl. Now, been done by Mautana Azad and Sural there are two ways before you--either 231, which I am going to quote DOW is retain her honourably or Jet her part also the renderiq of Maulana Azad. gracefu lJy. In this connection, Maulana Majid Oariyabadi says : [English] "When you have divorced your wife [English]. and the period of waiting is near.. "This is for as econd time that husbands ing its end, you have only two are enjoined to behave towards ways open to you, either retain their wives honourably, n them with duc propriety or walk from them with propriety:' [Translation) Who is this wife? This is the same [Translation] woman whom ODe has divorced whom This is the translation by Maulana . one is releasing. A stress has been laid Azad. The question arises as to what on it. is the meaning of 'propriet)l' and 'kind.. ness', which have been emphasised ? [ English] This is tbe crux of the matter. rhe uThis is for the second time" that Holy Quran repeatedly says that it should husbands are enjoined to behave not be that a husband should part with towards their wives honourably his wife when arrives at this conclusion. and generously, whether they It could be very easHy said that the retain them or divorce them The wife should be separated but the Holy duty to be kind, fair and chiv­ Quran did not say that. It says' that alrous towards the wife is not sbe should be separated with kindness, contingent on somethihg else it Maulana Majid Dariyabadi speaks about is unconditional." that as follows , (which is the translation of Suraf 229)- [Translation] [Eng/Ish] Even jf the woman is at faUlt, even if you have reached the conclusion that' "Divorce is twice. Thereafter either divorce is being sought for this . reason, retain her honourably or reJeaCie yet she shmJld be treated with kind her kindly, and it is not allowed to hearted ness and this kind heartedness take away all of what you have towards her is not conditional, it is given to them." obligatory. And why is it so.? This is so because divorce in Islam has not TranslatioD of Surat 231 (s like this: beeD envisaged as a punishment to a woman. The 'Concept of divorce aA [English] envisaged in Islam is that if you arc "When you have divorced them, either unable to maintain those bounds, if you retain tbem honourably or release are unable to maintain those limits them kindly." ordained by the Almighty, and you have incompatibi~ity-

[Translation] "'[English] Now, it is worth consideration that -Tben. in order to bring peace to your­ tbe subject matter oC both the Surall, self aDd to ber •••••• i e 229 and 231 is the. same. After ~Il" what was the need Cor this repeti­ [Translation] tio~? It could easily be said that when you have reached a conclusion that yo,u The r.oncept of punishment is not there cannot live together, tben part with her. in the Holy Quran, It has therefQre But it bas been stressed in &rat 229 been repeatedly emphasised., 'bat either retain her bonourably' or let (Interruptions) 431 Code (1/ Cr. P. BHADRA 1, 1901 (SAKA) Cock of Cr. P. 438 (Amdt.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE anyone would have any objection to the MINISTRY OF SHIPPING A'ND TR­ meaning given by Shei Saito E,'cn this ANSPORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): Are House will have no objection if a lump you praising his speech or the provisions SUm of tnoney is deposited as a one-tame of the Q~ran 1 t ransacti on in her name with which she may be abJe to maintain herself for SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD the rest of her life. Who pan (Bhagalpur) : That responsibility is object to it 7 What does re.sonable yours. I am praising him. scale mean? I feel there should be DO objection ~o it. The basic point is tbat there should be- no vagrancy. It is the SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: duty of the State, the duty of the Govern­ Now om coming to that Aayat whose 1 ment to see what arrangement has to be translation has beeD done by Abdullah made for the destitute women who cannot Yusu( Ali or someone else .and which has maintain them~lves, Even in an Islamic been quoted by the Supreme Court. It is State, a murderer is sent to jail only (or the translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali: this reason that he has committed a Sait Sahib says the Supreme Court that murder. But he is not starved in tbe jail. has wrongly interpreted it. My personal When arrangements are made for even a and purely personal view is that the murderer, why not for a woman who Supreme Court need not have gone into Alight have been at fauh. I do not it. A woman had g'one to seek justice accept the other translatloD. I accept under the Cr.P,C. Earlier, many judge­ only your translation: ments had been delivered about this Had the Supreme Court shown some judicial di~cretion, ~uch a big controversy would [English] not have arisen. There was no need for "Let is be one-time transaction but it at all. Many judgements had been let it be in a handsome manner deJivered earlier. Justice Khalid has and let it be adequate to sustain delivered a judgement. JUiJ,ice Murtaza her for life or tilJ she re­ Fazl All, who referred this case, has given marries. '.,. a judgement It is being said repeatedly that Muslim Judges should have the right [Translation] to decide such ca~es, The MUl\lim Judges of the Sup.eme Court have also delivered I have DO <>bjection. The basic point judgemenlS but 1 do not want to go iuto is not tbat a postman should bring money that. But since It IS being said that thiS order On the first of every month, The Aayat has been worngJy interpreted, I basic point is that the woman who has no would hke to quote the translation of source of JiveJiJ-lQod should not be thrown on the street. (Interruptions) Abdullah Yu'\uf Ali in this connection. !

[Engli~h] This is not my opinion. In this con­ Abdullah Yusuf Ali Said : "For nection, I would Quote again the Pakistan divorced women mamtenance ~w Commission. I am just mentioning should be provided on a reasona­ here the opinion of the Commission. The ble scale, This is a duty on the Government may Or may not accept it, riahteous. " that is a different tbing. (Interruptions) I do not have any. direct information from SHR. Z.R. ANSARI: FlIOm which Pakistan 'Portion are you reading? I can let some information from what- 1 • ~\fer papers are available wirh IDe. I do [Translation) not have any direct information. J mean SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: the documents o( tbe Commission which Ttlc word is Matta, 1As Mr. Sail haa said, included Dr, Khalifa Shujauddio~ Dr. the word Matta has been variously inter· K6.Ufa Abdul Hakim. MaulaDa Aht... preted at different places. I do Dot feel hamol H~q, Mr. Inlyatur Rchm'an, Be,u.m 43'9 Cod, 01 Cr. P. AUGUST 23, 1985 Cod, of Cr P. 440 (Amdr.) Bill (Amdt.) B,t II [Shri Arif Mohammad Khan] [English] "For divorced women maintenance Shflhnawaz, Belum Anwar' Ahme~; Begum ShamsbuloibaT Mahmood.. Tbe should be provided On a rea .. ·duty question before the Commission was: sonable scale. This is a on the righteous." . I Entllsh] [Translation] "Should it be open to a matrimonial and family law court when Should I tell you the meaning of approached to lay down that Matta? As I have said. I ha\e no a husband shall pay the· main­ objection to :ooe time transaction'. One tenance to the divorced wife for thing more has been said 'bat the word life or till her remarriage 1" Mti ttak e_en has been used in th is case. Th is is the duty cast on Muttakeen and nol on Musalmeen. (Interruptions) Mutta4 een This was the specific question which was means more religious, God-Fearing. posed to the Commission. What i-; the Maulana Azad has translated it like this: opinion or the Commission? The Com­ A man who could discriminate between mission opines that such a discretion what is good and ~hat is bad, a man who should be vested in the matrimonial can discriminate between what is useful court. and what is harinful", but on this some guardians of the Muslim Personal Law said tbat it relates to Mutta~een and not [Trails/at ion] Musalmeen. The Holy Quran begins This was such a Commission which wilh : "A Ii! lam meell jalikal kitab, /a-;a consisted of jurists as well as religious b:l/ih hudalleel Mliflakeena/ lazina" - if scholars. I did not say whether it was the Quran ts for the Mlillakeell, then accepted or not. ·That i~ a different which Quran do they f.)J1ow '/ The matter. But what the Commission has Quran says that it shows light to the opined is that: (Interruptions) Multakeen, but in the Supreme Court, it was as hed in defence • 'Who would de­ cide about it 1" It is easy for Banatwalla I now come to 24 t. I have said so Sahib to say, as he said. if you have read because the Commis~ion is of tbe opinion it. then quote it. Then. of cnurse he can that the Courts should have the right to be one of the Muff .Jkeens. (InterruptlOm) see that the women are not thrown on Who wilJ decide it? It is for him to do. the street. The translation of Maulana Abdul Majid Dariyabadi is : [English] "And that a large number of middle­ [English] aged women who are being "And for the divorced women an divorced without rhyme or honourable present ...... " reason should not be thrown on the streets without a roof [ Translation] over their heads and wit~out ••••••... .(/nterruptwns). •. .•.•... He has any means of sustaining them. not used the word 'main'"enancc' I have selves and their children." already said that personally 'ODe time transacti8n' is acceptablCY. The only PROF, N.G. RANOA: Does it apply thing is that ir a woman cane lead her ,to Pakistan? life well, nobody can have any obj~ction. The question is not whether she may be paid maintenance or she sho"ld be siYen [TrQns/ationl , a lumpsum amounH' The basic thing is SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD K~N: that she .should not be thl'o~n OD t:he What is the translation of the Aayat ? street. There should be some 'Ace.ordina to Abdullah YU5u,Ali. arrangement so that $he could sustain 441 Code oler. P. BHADRA I, 1907 (SAKA) Code 0/ Cr. P. 44~ (Alndl.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill herself. The only thing is that she for the woman, whatever the circumstances. ... bould be able to keep her b04y and soul The Holy Quran wants to emphasize it, together. The MaulaDa has translated tbat is why tbis has been said agaiD. thus: Mau!ana Azad says :-

(English) [English] And ror the divorced women an This call was based 00 tbe reaSOD honourabJe present. that she was comparatiVely weaker than man and her in .. Incumbent on God fearing, terests needed to be properly safeguarded. [Translation] [Trans! at iOIl] Mr. Speaker, Sir I want to draw the attention of Sait Sahib through you, that This has been repeated 8ga in nnd em­ a gentleman has said about tbe Muslim phasized so that her interest could be Personal Law that the husband has not £afeguarded. This is the interpretation been eojoined to make provision for this by Maulana Azad. wife. It is for her father, brother Now, I want to go back to what I was •••... (lnterruptionst ...... Maulana Abdul saying earlier. It has been said tbat It Majid Oariyabadi says- is 'ODe time transaction' . I am very happy about 'one time transaction', other.. [English) wise Sait Sahib. people are not agreeable ljme transaction'. are And for the divorced women an hono­ even to 'one They urable present: 611 saying it is for lddat. I have discussed this not with one or two but with tens of Only yesterday, I had a with a Incumbent on Ood feerlng. (61 7: persons. talk made by their husbands) And m~mber of my party who says that this pro­ vision is only for the period of Iddat. I am for the divorced wom~n there shall be a provision of necessa­ very happy that Sait Sahib has said that ries with moderation, or right this is 'on.e time provision'. I agree with and just aim and beneficence. him. I will also say tl)at one time pro­ And for the divorced women, vision is all, right if such a pro.,rision let there be a fair provision. could be made. I would like to come to said This is an obligation on those the other point. It is being that it who are mindful of God. is only for the period of I.ldat It is the respon"bility of the hUllband to maintain hill wife only for the period of lddat. [Translation] This is in order, that they may feel attr~. What more could the Quran say than ted towards esch other and come together that there shall be a provision for a It is ordained that she should not bi wOOl.n? Similarly, Maulana Azad says :- turned out, she should be retained, she should be kept in the same style as lived [English] by the husband.. (Int 'r""pthms) Yes, I am also referring to Id.. laf I ~ay that Although the prOVISions k>uching Iddat bas been dealt WIth sep~~atcJy. marriaae and divorce have becft already stated, Quran takes Many people s~y that the provision or occasion to re-emphasize that maiDtettance or gift or present under 241 proper consideration should be is only for the period of Jddal. What is shown to the divorced woman Iddat1 in every circumstance. 17.00 brI. [Trans/a/toll) The period of ~ddat .• i,s three OlO'lths In !bt. ,connection, 4t bas beeD said and in 1he fQ8SC of a pr-egnant WOIJlCfD, the tbat tbere should be some consideration period of Iddat will be tilt

(I!"'nglish] [English] "Prophet Sail am did dot mention The husband said, " My money, Ob Allah that the gift should be given to Apostle." tbe Jady whom her husband divorced after they had been [Translation] involved in a case of Llan." Then ·he said that when she was not [Translation) faithful to him and he had been separated Now, what is L,'an ? Lian is that where from her, the amount of Mehr paid to \V

I do not want to gO into more details. SHRIARW MOHAMMED KHAN: Sait . Sahib and Banatwalla Sahib know The difference is 1hat the slogans that the law of. thl;) Shariot bette.. I know have been raised, the type of speeches Qoly this much that many communities that have been made, the type of state- 455 Cod8 olCr, P. AUGUST 23, 1915 Code 01 Cr. P. 4'6 (Amdt.) Bill (Amdt.) Bilt [Sbri Arit MohaDlm~d Kball}' [English]

meats that are being given in the news· MR~ CHAIRMA.N We wiJI DOW papers-all these are aimed at instigatiol take up the next item. religious sentiments I I would Jike to , request that if there are differences on The House will now take up Ha)f~an­ any matter, t~en we should remember Hour discussion, Shrl BoV. Desai. The tbat there is scope for discussion. Some .. hOll, Vernber is not pre!ent. So, tbe where you may agree to our views and House stands adjourned to meet at 11 SClmewhere we may agree to your \'iewsJ A.M. on Monday. the 26th Augost, 1985. but GOb

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