LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

English Series Vol, XXI No, 9 Friday, November 14,1986 ~Kartika 23,1908 (Saka)

Seventh Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)

(Vol. XXI contains Nos. 1 to 10)

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Price : Rs. 6.00 C O N T E N T S

No. 0 Friday, November / / „ !9X6f Kartika 23, 190S (Saka)

COLUMNS Ora 1 Answers to Questions :

‘Starred Questions Nos. 162 to 164, 166 1—-28 167, 169 and 170 Written Answers to Questions ; Starred Questions Nos. 165, 168, 171 to 183 2 9 - 4 5

Unstarred Questions Nos. \6 \\ to 1633, 1635 to 1799, 1801 to 1841 and 1843 to 1863 45— 237

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 238— 240 MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA — 241 INDECENT REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN (PROHIBITION) BILL, AS PASSED BY RAJYA SABHA 241— 244 STATEMENT RE : AGREEMENT REACHED ON THE DEMANDS s OF JUNIOR DOCTORS’ FEDERATION OF DELHI 245— 247 Shri P.V, Narasimha Rao • . * CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC . MPORTANCE 248— 269 • Reported sharp increase in clandestine deposits made by Indians in foreign banks 248— 254

Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan — 248 Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 248— 270 Shri Zainul Basher 254— 256 Shri M. Raghuma Reddy 256— 258 Shri Harish Rawat 258— 269 BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 270— 277 INDIAN POST OFFICE (AMENDMENT) BILL, 1986 278— 308

Motion to consider

Shri Son tosh Mohan Dev 280—-281 Shri V. Tulsiram 281 —283 Shri Virdhi Chandcr Jain. 283— 287 Shri Syed Shahabuddin 287 —291 Shri Girdhari Lai Vyas 291— 295 Shri Kammodi Lai Jatav 295— 296 0

#The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the Moor of the House by that Member. 9

COLUMNS

COMMUTE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Twenty-fifth Report 296 RESOLUTION RE : GROWTH OF RURAL ECONOMY— CONTD. 296— 342 Shri Mool Chand Daga 297—302 Shri Sriballav Panigrahi 302— 306 Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 306— 309 Kumari Mamata Banerjee 309— 315 Shri T. Basheer 315— 319 Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh 319— 323 Dr. Phulrenu Guha 323— 325 Shri Ram Pyare Panika 325— 329 Shri K.D. Sultanpuri 329— 334 Shri Anadi Charan Das 334— 336 Dr. G.S. Rajhans 336— 337 Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy 337— 342 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA impression that the loans disbursed at credit camps did not carry an obligation to repay. Opportunity is being taken at credit camps to Friday. November Jl, ll/HOfKartika 23, educate borrowers about the correct position luos (Saka) regarding utilisation of credit and repayment of loans.

The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : In the Statement, it is said that loan camps are [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] organised in accordance with the guidelines issued by the Reserve Bank of India. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Now, I wrote to the Prime Minister [English] about lot of complaints of malpractices and he replied on 28th May that there were com- Repayments of Loans Disbursed at plants of malpractices in some cases and Credit Camps that such malpractices could, however, be controlled by better coordination between *162. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : Will rural banks and development agencies. ihe Minister of FINANCE he pleased to state : I want to know whether Central Vigilance Commission had to interfere later on in this (a) whether it is a fact that a general wide range of complaints all over the country impression is being created amongst borro- and whether a Study Team of Reserve wers that the loans disbursed at the crcdit Bank had gone into the details of the case camps represented more or less moneys and made some comments. 1 want to know doled out by Government and consequently that from the Minister. do not carry the obligation to repay ; and Regarding Delhi, I want to know whe- (b) if so, the steps taken/proposed to ther they asked for proper identification and improve the situation ? assessment of credit needs was not done in Delhi. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI In Karnataka, bank manager had no JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) opportunity to meet prospective borrowers A Statement is given below : for assessing the credit needs.

Statement MR. SPEAKER : Please don't read out all that. You put a question. The credit camps are being organised by public sector banks as a part of their overall SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : In efforts to increase the flow of credit to Maharashtra also, the complaints are there. weaker sections of the society. The sanction, disbursement and recovery of loans in all In West Bengal, there are lot of cases including those relating to credit camps complaints. have to be in accordance with the guidelines issued by Reserve Bank of India. I want to know whether tfcese complaints are there, whether the Vigilance Commission However, it has been reported that in had interfered and whether the Study Team some cases, in order to undermine the pro- had gone into the details. May 1 know from gramme for weaker sections, certain vested the Minister whether the Vigilance Commis- interests have sought to create an erroneous sion and the Study Team have vested interest. 3 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers 4

(Interruptions) It has been observed that the Melas do generate an awareness among the rural folk SHRI A. CHARLES : Lakhs and lakhs about the various types of Concessionary of people are benefited. assistance under the priority sector schemes available to them under the Banking (Interruptions) System.

They are aware that poor people are Now they have found out certain benefited. deficiencies also which have been highlighted in the Press. Some of the/hon. Members MR. SPEAKER : Let the Minister reply. have also been highlighting this. In the I think at the hon. Minister can better Credit Camps, loans under the 1RDP, even explain that. under the educated unemployment Scheme and other schemes also, are distributed. So SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, it only far as IRDP beneficiaries are concerned, shows the vested interest of the Congress...... these are the major beneficiaries. They are big in numbers. While we are granting Joans MR. SPEAKER : They will be proud of through Credit Camps, these beneficiaries that if you say that. are identified by the State Governments. Regarding DRDS, in some States even local SHRI D1NESH GOSWAMI : Not only authorities are identifying. It is not that the that. The Question may be deferred because banks were identifying the beneficiaries Miss Mamata Banerjee is not here. under IRDP and also under the Scheme for the Educated Unemployed, State Govts, [Translation] are identifying the beneficiaries. If the hon: Members are complaining that there is some MR. SPEAKER : Did you not give defect in identification, then the State notice to her earlier to this effect ? Governments should be pulled up for that-- whether it is the Congress= ruled States, [English] whether it is Opposition—ruled by States...... SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : It is true that the Vigilance Commission (Interruptions) has referred to a case. But the case pertained to the year 1976 and in SHRI ANIL BASU : It is not at all that credit camp in Haryana, there related to IRDP case. It is exclusively was some complaint. They referred to that meant for the Loan Melas. case. Now, this ease has been highlighted. Their case has been highlighted to discredit the Credit Camps which are held during this SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : I period. There is another thing also. Now, just give an example because the hon. Mem- the Reserve Bank has conducted a study. It ber who has put the question is coming is an internal assessment that has been done from West Bengal. In JaJpaiguri District in order to help the administration to find about 16000 and odd people were given loan. out if there are any deficiencies in the work- The Deputy Commissioner, the Collector ing of the Credit Camps and also function- and also the Additional Collector there ing of the administration. Only some of the told me. “The backlog which was pending portions have been taken out and highlighted for three years is covered because of your, saying that all these things are bad in the coming here, because of loan function. The Credit Camp. I will just read what they backlog for last many years is covered- have stated in the Reserve Bank Report : because an expeditious and accelerated flow of credit hag come”. This is the statement “Loan Mela is a useful method of of State Government officials. identifying the borrowers and eliminating the possibilities of the borrowers’ com- Sir, in every system there is deficiency. plaining that they did not receive the loan We have to rectify it and remedial mea- amount or they receive less.” sures arc also to be taken. 5 Oral Answers KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6

SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : The SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : We Reserve Bank Report says that in Jalpai- are receiving complaints and also a state- gurj beneficiarics were identified by outside ment has been made on the floor.... parties, without much regard to the usual norms. I will give one example... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : Put your question. MR. SPEAKER : Order, order, Let us listen to the reply. SHRI HANNAN M OLLAH: One Chairman of the Sagar Gramin Bank in SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : West Bengal asked the Manager to identify Complaints have been received from other the applications. 13.000 applications came- parts also and here also on the floor of this 7th April was the last date-and they were House hon. Members from our side have finalised in two days; Rs. 3 or 4 crores were complained saying that these Joans are disbursed : 13,000 applications were identifi- given to some Party people in West Bengal ed and the Minister distributed the money. and they have also identified the CPM. The In Bangalore, 35,000 . applications came complaint was here... with a red stamp with the direction from • the top that those applications with red (Interruptions) stamp should be given loans. This is the report everywhere. 1 want to know whether MR. SPEAKER : Let him finish. I can- the Confederation of bank officials have not allow. complained about mad and wild interference (Interruptions)** by the ruling Party in the activities of the % bank officials and whether they have demanded that such interference should be MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. This is eliminated. not the proper way. I cannot allow. Mr. Acharya, will you take your seat ? It is very SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARv : So wrong. Nothing of whatever he has said far as the Jalpaiguri function is concerned, will go on record. we have not received any complaint. Whe- ther it is Jalpaiguri or whether it is (Interruptions)** Karnataka or Rajasthan or Haryana, these complaints are saying that these applications MR. SPEAKER : This is utterly irres- are forwarded by some political parties or ponsible. This is an utterly irresponsible social organisations...... behaviour. No. Not allowed. Mr. Acharya, have you ever leant the rules and regulations of this House ? I cannot allow you. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : One Party. You can ask another question, but not like this. If I think that it is fit, I will allow you, SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : In otherwise not. I am the person to decide Jalpaiguri if at all the applications are this. identified by political parties, if they say that it is done by the Communist Party, (Interruptions)** CPM, for identification under IRDP, we do not have any objection. Any Party can MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. submit the application... SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; I (Interruptions)** can understand the concern of the Hon. Members. I share their concern. MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. What the hon. Members have said is without my (Interruptions) permission and it will not form part of the record. 1 did not allow. The Minister is MR. SPEAKER : I am going to listen replaying to Mr. Hannan Mollah’s question. first.

**Not recorded. **Not recorded. 7 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers 8

SHkl JANARDHANA POOJARY : I down now. This is the last time I am warn- understand the conaern of the Hon. Mem- * ing you. If some poor people are to be given ber. I share their concern also. What 1 am like this...(Interruptions),,A will ask you just telling is that if the applications are to completely adhere to the question. To forwarded by th is party or that party or hell with the political parties, I want the any social organisations... poor people to get the benefit.

(Interruptions) SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; I am grateful to you Sir. MR. SPEAKER ; Why can’t you listen properly ? Let him first complete. He is not (Interruptions) putting anything. He is just answering. I am not going to allow you Mr. Acharia. MR. SPEAKER ; 1 am not taking his Please sit down, he is not naming anyone. side. I said that I am not concerned with Behave properly. Don’t transgress your any political parties. (Interruptions). .. limits now. He is not naming you. Not allowed.

(Interruptions) (Interruptions)**

SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA : All these MR. SPEAKER : That is what I said, hullabaloo can be avoided if he only replies to hell with the political parties. Now take to the point which has been raised. The your seat or withdraw from the House. point to be clarified is whether under this This is too much. You are transgressing all scheme the identification is to be done by the limits today. I don’t know what is political parties or not. Why doesn’t he happening here. If you are going to raise reply to that ? your voice like this I am not going to allow MR. SPEAKER : He is going to reply you. to that ; but nobody is listening. Order, order. This is highly irresponsible on the SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; It part of the members of this party. is open to any citizen of the country. Irrespective of the party affiliation, they can (Interruptions) submit their application on behalf of the poor people to identifying authority. It is They are most irresponsible. 1 will ask not a crime. Wherever the identification you to withdraw from the House if you authority is the State Government, DRD, it persist like this. is for them to assess. It is their assessment to identify. Anybody can submit the appli- (Interruptions) cation on behalf of the poor people...

SHRT JANARDHANA POOJARY : MR. SPEAKER : Is it right that the Anybody can submit the application to the identification lies with the authorities in the bank or to the identifying authority includ- bank ? ing the political parties and social organisations or any citizen of the country. It is SHRI JANARDHANA POOJAR1 ; Yes, not a crime. Sir. (Interruptions) Please hear me. Wher- ever identification is to be done by the (Interruptions) loca 1 government, anybody can on behalf of the poor people submit their applications MR. SPEAKER : Why can’t you listen to the identifying authority. to the reply ? What is w rong with it ? Any- body can apply, there is no bar. It is not MR. SPEAKER : What I would like improper, it is perfectly all right. to ask is that the application can be forwarded by anybody but the sole (Interruptions) responsibility of identification lies with the bank. MR. SPEAKER : I warn you again to sit down. Mr. Acharia, I warn you to sit **Not recorded 9 Oral Answers KARTiKA 23, J908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : Yes. very popu lar and there are various aspects Sanctioning and processing... of the scheme are you going to enact a legislation to cover these Joan melas ? MR. SPEAKER : You can forward app lications but the identification lies with SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : the bank, No legislation is required. It is under administrative set-up. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; Yes. Identification, processing and sanction- SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : There are ing should be done by the bank people. It two kinds of assistance given to the needy is their own judgement. Nobody can inter- people of this country. One is under IRDP fere. and the other is through loan Melas. The State Government sponsored or identified per- (Interruptions) sons are given the IRDP loans. I would like to know whether any complaint, particularly MR. SPEAKER ; Please sit down. The with regard to the State Governments that responsibility squarely lies on the bank they are not identifying properly the needy peop le who have to advance the loan. persons but only their party people has been received and what actions have been taken ? AN HON. MEMBER : Sir, I want to seek a clarification. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : We have been receiving such complaints through- MR. SPEAKER : There is no question out the country that in a particular State of clarification. This money belongs to the some interested persons or some of their nation. It is not anybody’s money. If this party people are submitting applications. money is just devoured or vanishes then We are trying to rectify these defeciencies. everything will come to a stop. It must revolve. It must go to the poor. Whatever DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Sir, 1 the situation has been so far in this country want to congratulate you and the Prime mostly it went to the industrialists. It must Minister for having intervened in the come to the rural sector also. We have to doctors’ strike... evolve ways and means whereby there is nothing hanky panky in it. We must stop SHRI C. MADHAV REDD1 ; Is there irregularities. We must stop something like any machinery in the Government to see that. Bank people must take it on their that the loans given at the loan melas to the shoulder that it is given to the authorised beneficiaries are being properly utilised for persons and that the money goes to the poor the purpose for which these loans are sanc- people who are really there. tioned ? Is there any machinery to see that the recoveries a re properly made ? [Translation) SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Mr. Speaker, Not only it is the duty of the bank people, Sir, we too are not rich. Please get a LOAN the entire banking sector, to give loans, but MELA arranged for us also. That will set it is also their duty to monitor it and see things right. that the amount so loaned is utilized properly. Apart from that whenever I go, I MR. SPEAKER ; Shri Tulsiram, we make personnel enquiries and supervision in shall get a special loan MELA arranged for this regard. you. The hon. Member has made a very [English] important pcint about paying back the amount of loan. According to the reports SHRI SHANTARAM NA1K : Sir, the which I have got from some branches in loan melas are governed under a scheme Madras, earlier the rate of recovery was 27 prepared by the Government. It has become per cent, after these loan functions, it has very popular and some people are very gone upto 77 per cent. In my district there jealous of it. Since the scheme has become was a big procession of ten thousand people, 11 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers 12 who had paid back the amount. They were taken and this should be looked after pro- honoured ; a small gift was given to such perly. It should not go by default. It must persons. Besides, the bank people who are work. responsible for good recovery were also honoured. In a public meeting, when I Reduction of Anti—Dumping Duty asked about the recovery position, I w'as told that it was 95 per cent, 97 per cent and •163. SHRI KAILASH YADAV : Will 98 per cent. In the case of two branches the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to at Tadapatri in Andhra Pradesh, the recovery state : was hundred per cent. There is a lot of improvement. (a) whether Government have reduced anti-dumping duty on PFY and if so. how MR. SPEAKER : It must be workable. much and since when ; It is the most beneficial thing and it must work properly. (b) the purpose behind this reduction ;

SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY : (c) whether the benefit of price reduc- Nobody objects to the poor people getting tion in PFY is reflected in the prices of loan. What we are talking about is about cloth for the commonman ; and corruption and manipulation. He said that the party people should also come forward ; (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? I want him to exclude political parties, otherwise manipulation and corruption THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE would remain.... MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (d) (Interruptions) A statement is given below :

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE Statement (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER) : What the Minister had stated was workers of the (a) and (b) There is no anti-dumping political parties. duty as such on PFY. The basic customs duty on PFY was reduccd from 200% ad MR. SPEAKER ; Let us be reasonable. valorem plus Rs. 15 per kg. to 200% with You cannot be segregated from the people ; effect from 18th June, 1986 to create a you are out of the people, you work for the salutary effect on the prices of indigenous people and for the good of the people. You PFY. can send the applications for loan, but you are not the arbitrary authority. You can (c) and (d) The price of cloth depends only forward. on a variety of factors such as demand-and - supply position, cost of inputs, scales of SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY ; economy, etc. besides the duty on yam. It Manipulation means you can do it otherwise is therefore, difficult to assess the impact of also. import duty reduction for PFY on the price of cloth. MR. SPEAKER : You can help the people, you can educate them. That is [7>ms7flf/Ywj right. 1 think, it is our duty as representatives of the people to see that the repayment SHRI KAILASH YADAV : Mr. Speaker, is also made by the people. Sir, through you, I would like to know from the hon. Minister as to how the duty was SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : decreased instead of increasing when there About corruption, these loans are given in was a steep decline in the price of oil in the the open house meetings and if there is any international market ? If there was a decrease report about corrupti on, immediate action is in duty, how much it was and whether the taken there itself. benefit of reduction in duty was reflected in the price of cloth for the common MR. SPEAKER ; Action should be man ? 13 Oral Answers KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14

[English] ciation of Chambers of Commerce and SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; We Industry, FICC1 and also other organisa- have reduced the duty and because of the tions. A lot of suggestions have been made reduction in duty, the consumers were bene- for the amendment of the Act. They also tited. For the benefit of the hon. Members, say that there should be two separate Acts. 1 can say how the prices of polyester fila- We are examining all these aspects. Some ment cloth have come down. time will have to be given for examining all these and then we will come forward with The rate for polyester filament yarn 76- concretc solutions. denier was earlier Rs. 166.67 per kg. and after the removal of the duty, it has come SHRI KRISHNA SINGH ; Now that down to Rs. 157 per kg. For POY 115- the Government are reviewing the Foreign denier, earlier the price was Rs. 160 per kg., Exchange Regulations Act in the context of now it has come down to Rs. 142 per kg. I the ACCI proposals, may 1 know whether have got all these details. The consumers Government would take up a thorough revi- were benefitted because of the removal of sion of the Act, to modify all the provisions this duty. which are often m isused by unscrupulous elements to deprive the Government of its ACCI Suggestions for Bifurcation of FERA legitimate share of foreign exchange or to drain out the exchange reserves of the *164. SHRI KRISHNA SINGH : Will country ; if so, what steps are being taken in th* Minister of FINANCE be pleased to that direction ? state : SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : (a) whether Government’s attention has Suggestions have been made to remove been drawn to the suggestion reportedly hurdles. If we take into consideration all made by the Association of Chambers of the suggestions that have been made, then Commerce and Industry of India for bifurca- that will amount to scrapping of the FERA tion of contents of the Foreign Exchange Act. So, Government should be more Regulation Act into two separate pieces responsible. Wherever it is possible to find of legislation, one dealing with the some so lutions and wherever it is required currency movements and the other dealing in the interest of the nation, we are defini- with foreign investments in India and tely considering that. That is why, I technology imports etc. ; and request that some time may be given because we are examining all the aspects in detail. (b) if so, the Government’s reaction Modernisation of Textile Mills thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE *166. *DR. DATTA SAMANT : MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : Will JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir. the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : (b) The proposal has been received very recently. It is too early to offer any com- (a) whether Government have taken a ments thereon. decision to identify hundred textile mills for modernisation and for boosting textile SHRI KRISHNA SINGH : May I know production; in this context what are the main objects which according to the ACCI would te (b) the names of the mills selected; and achieved by the bifurcation of the FERA ; (c) the criteria for selecting these mills ? whether this is in any way aimed at preventing the leakage of foreign exchange under THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the provisions of the A c t: if so, what MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. specific provisions are sought to be modified KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) No, Sir. ‘ by the ACCI in this regard ?

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : Sir, (b) and (c) Do not arise in view of (a) we have received proposals from the Asso- above. 15 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers ]6

DR. DATTA SAM ANT : Sir, there is a MR. SPEAKER : Why not, fourthly, let statement in the Press. But I am not going the farmers sow cotton and produce it. into that controversy. This is happening at present after the Textile policy. The SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Sir, the Government has given excise concessions modernisation fund of about Rs. 750 crores amounting to Rs. 131 crores to the textile has been established and has come into magnates and another Rs. 130 crores is given operation from 1.8.86 as one of the very to these textile magnates with 6 to 11 per important measures resulting from the New cent interest. In Bombay, the Century Mills, Textile Policy. Modernisation does not Morarji Mills, Bombay Dyeing, Reliance and essentially involve retrenchment and it has all the 14 Mills have taken this concession. been acknowledged as one of the long term This year they have made a profit of Rs. 70 solutions to the ills of the textile industry. crores. The tragedy is, in this Textile Policy I would also like to remind the hon. all my 40,000 workers are out. Today in Member, as he is no doubt aware, that no Kanpur 14,000 workers will be thrown away. modernisation scheme is implemented in After this Textile Policy, Government has any of the Mills, except on the basis of accepted all those people who are robbing consultation with trade unions and agreement the country and they are encouraging these with the workers. textile magnates and giving them money. These few mills and a few textile magnates In any retrenchment, the benefits to who are robbing the country are growing be given to the workers are already laid stronger and stronger day by day and down. As you are aware, in existing mills Government is encouraging them. there is a rationalisation scheme in order to reduce the surplus labour and improve the Sir, 1 am asking a categorical question. productivity of the enterprise. The gratuity Before giving such sanctions and subsidies— as well as the retrenchment compensation and now Rs. 700 crores will be given in three together has been given.... years— I would like to know whether the Textiles Ministry is going to see that firstly, DR. DATTA SAM ANT : Not given, there should be minimum retrenchment so that at least the existing workers are able to SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : It is given survive ; secondly, if at all the workers are wherever labour rationalisation is imple- going to be retrenched, then they must be mented. The Textile Policy itself incorporates properly compensated and rehabilitated. the safeguards for labour in the event of any Your present policy does not provide for this. of the elements of the policy adversely affecting the individual worker. Thirdly, 1 want to know whether the workers who are working in the Mills— 1 am DR. DATTA SAMANT : Sir, the hon. asking you a simple question—will get the Minister has given the reply. My 60,000 benefits of this modernisation or not. It is the workers are however not given the retrench- duty of the Textile Ministry to see that the ment compensation. The reply given here is benefits go to the workers. They are given something and what is happening there is hardly Rs. 60 as their wages and they are not another thing. Our union is INTUC. Every- given the bonus also. At the same time, they where it is making adjustments with the are putting their labours, three o four times employees. Now, you please do it. That is more than others. So, 1 am asking you a my desire. It is the second largest industry categorical question, whether the Textile in the country where we are spending thous- Ministry is going to regulate immediate re- ands of crores of rupees. It is your duty to trenchment and whether the retrenched look into it. Don’t leave it to my union or workers will get the proper compensation for your union of anybody, else’s union. their rehabilitation ? My another question is this. What is hap- Will the workers who are working in the pening in the country is that very few big Mills get the genuine benefits from this textile magnates such as Bombay Dyeing, Re- modernisation or not ? This is your duty liance, Morarji, are taking advantage of these don’t leave it to anybody else. concessions and are prospering in one way 17 Oral Answers KARTfKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 and at the same time, they are a Iso giving the new textile policy and releasing the loans to others to run their industries. By secret report of the so-called experts* com- means of this, they are handing over the sick m ittee ? industries to the Government. They have handed over 125 mills to the Government. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : The new So such types of things are going on. Even textile policy of Government aims to, har- the power loom and hand loom sectors are monize these three competing sectors. It also dying. tries to impart impulses of growth at all vital points of the textile economy. In fact, So the Government should consider that the main objective of the new textile policy whatever money is given to these maganates. is to increase production of cloth and its whether they ha\c used it properly or not availability, especially to the common man during the last ten jcars. and for that an and to the weaker sections of society. The Inquiry Commission should be appointed. f gures available with us show that the textile They have committed many frauds in production has increased by 500 million Bombay. I have the details with me. Still metres in a year as a result of the declara- you are giving them money. Instead of giv- tions of the policy. Handloom production ing money to those people, you give that has increased by more than 10%; power money to the small powerloem, hand loom loom production has also increased. There and other people in the villages. Because, by is a marginal decrease in organized textile means of this Textile Policy, we are making sector production. The rate of increase these highly influential pecple more profitable in the price of cloth has come down after at the cost of the poor workers. the declaration of the textile policy, when compared to. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Sir, this a very rambling question. ( Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : The relevant point you SHRI DATTA SAMANT : The Minis- have to answer is whether that money, which ter— Mr. Khan—'had made a statement that has been gi\en for the specific purpose has the prices had gone up. been properly utilised or not? Have you monitored that? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY ; The prices have gone up. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Sir. there has been a soft laon scheme for the moder- (Interruptions) nisation of industry the benefits of which have been availed of by the textile industry MR. SPEAKER : Let us hear him. also about Rs. 400 crores from 1974 to 1984. That is theory.

As regards the utilisation or the moder- SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : I said nisation funds, set up now, each of the the rate of increase. There is a normal rate projects is sanctioned by the 1DBI as per laid of increase due to inflation as regards all dow'n parameters. There is an inbuilt moni- commodities in the economy. toring system and the money has to be utilised for the purpose for which it is sanctioned. (Interruptions1

SHRI S. JA1PAL REDDY : Sir, the In the case of cloth whereas in the previous New Textile Policy was based on the report year the prices had risen by 5.1% and 3.1% of the Experts Committee which has for mill cloth and hand loom cloth respec- been so far kept a secret. Secondly, 1 tively, in the next year, i.e. after the declara- would like to know from the Minister tion of the policy, the rates have risen only as to whether the new textile policy by 2.3% and 1.4%— which represents only has met with trenchant criticisms from 50% of the previous rate of increase. So, various quarters such as cotton growers, this is no indication that the textile policy handloom weavers and organized labour. is not working. On the other hand all In view of the trenchant criticism, will available infcirraticn suggests that the textile Government consider revising and reviewing policy has worked icasonably well. It is 19 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers 20 too early to make a very definitive judge- specific mill. I would require notice ; but ment on every single aspect of the policy. 1 would like to say that a nodal agency has been established, with the participation of fInterruptions) the Ministry and the IDB1, to monitor the progress in respect of modernization of each MR. SPEAKER : With a corresponding mill. decrease in cot ion prices, Mr. Minister. [ Translation] •: Interruptions) SHRI UIRDHAR1 LAL VYAS : Will SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : He has you advise them to do monitoring answered your question. He has not referred to the adverse effect produced on cotton gro- [ English] wers. He should answer that.

MR. SPEAKER : You did not answer MR. SPEAKER : That is what I was the question of Shri S. Jaipal Reddy asking. regarding the downfall in cotton prices which the farmers getting. iInterruptions)

SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS : ROSE SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : How can the Report of the Expert Committee be [Translation] secret ? It cannot be secret.

MR. SPEAKER ; Do not do such a THE MINISTER OF STATE OF thing. Mr. Thomas, do not do this. You THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI are again repeating it. Shri Vyas, you RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : As regards may ask the question about cotton. the cotton prices, it is a firm and well established policy of the government SHRI G1RDHAR1 LAL VYAS : Mr. that the Cotton Corporation of India will Speaker, Sic, my question to the hon. have purchases at the support prices of any Minister is eAUCtly opposite to what Shri quantity that might be tendered at the Datta Samant has earlier asked. Govern- purchasing centre. It is because of this ment are giving money to big industrialists policy that over the years production of for modernisation. The State Government cotton has increased. Ten years back, we and the financial institutions have taken were importing cotton worth aboul hundred over the management of the Mewar Textile crores of rupees every year : it was partly Mill. The financial institutions had pro- becausc of this policy; and above all by the mised to advance Rs. 5 crores to this mill efforts made by the Kisans under the leader- for effecting modernisation. But neither ship of a person like you that the cotton the financial institutions nor the banks are production has reached such a stage that we giving them money. A number of perma- exported Rs. 200 crores worth of cotton nent and casual workers have been retrench- last year; and even now, we are in surplus. ed from there. They have been given neither Now the cotton production has increased the retrenchment compensation nor gratuity. but the consequent consumption of cotton 1 would like to know whether the Govern- to that extent has not increased. So, in this ment would arrange to provide funds to this year, one of the things that I did after join- mill cither through the financial institutions ing my present responsibility w-as to or through the banks with a view to run it announce three year old, what we can call properly so that retrenched permanent and a long rerm policy of export and we had casual workers could get both retrenchment decided that we will export 6 lakh bales of compensation as well as gratuity ? cotton every year, in the next three years, if it is found necessary,even more, so that [English] over production that has resulted due to various factors is removed from the SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR ; If the market and the prices are reasonable for hon. Member wants such details about any the Kisans as well as for the consumer. 21 Oral Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

MR. SPEAKER ; Not Vet. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI SHRI ASUTOSH LAW; Is it a fact that (P.R. DAS MUNSH1) : (a) and (b) A the cotton mills which are managed by NTC statement is given below : arc suffering huge losses, if so, what fire the reasons? Is the government considering to Statement make a probe regarding the working and incurring losses by the cotton ifiills which (a) and (b) To promote cardamom are run by NTC ? cultivation Government have already been implementing specifc scheme through the SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : The Cardamom Board, the details of the which problems concerning NTC why they are are as follow's making losses had been discussed in the House on a number of occasions. We, in the (i) Transfer of technology to growers Ministry, are very much conscious of the through extension advisory services. fact that their performance should be improved. For the last two days, we had a (ii) Supply of quality planting material very detailed and indepth discussion on to farmers. every unit on every subsidiary with the officers concerned. It was our constant (iii) H ire Purchase load and subsidy for endeavour that the performance of the NTC purchase of irrigation equipment. mills should be improved. As a matter of fact, they have improved over the years if (iv) Pest and disease control by supply you take it from the point of view' of of plant protection chemicals and the amount of loss that has increased in equipment at subsidised cost. many mills. The number of mills that are making profit is also increasing. (v) Subsidy for construction and main- Some of them arc marginal ; they may tenance of conventional curing change from here and there, but some of houses. the things, utilization of machinery has improved, whether it is on the spinning side (vi) Replanting of old and un-economic or on the weaving side; whatever parameters plantations by offering subsidy. we have about efficient working ot the mills are gradually improving. But one fact (vii) Research. remains is that we cannot invest as much on the modernisation in these very old and DR. K.G. ADIYODI : Cardamom pro- antiquated mills as we wish to; we are trying duction in India is dwindling year after to get help Tron the budgetary support, year and cultivators are going in for con- from the Planning Commission as well as version of crops and to other revenue from the f.nancial institutions; and if we are yielding crops. What are the steps taken given sulficient funds, 1 think we can over- during the last three years and what is the come this distress and these mills can be amount spent for helping cardamom growers? made more viable. SHRI P.R. DAS MUNSI : The car- Promotion of Cardamom Cultivation damom consumption in our own country is very limited and the world market is also *167. f DK- K G * ADIYODI : limited. Guatemala very recently developed PROF. K.V. THOMAS : Will cardamom productivity in a very increased the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased style than that of India. Even then our to state : quality and things are very better in inter- nationa I market. Now government took (a) whether Government arc considering certain measures and a very definite any programme for the promotion of approach to this problem to increase the cardamom cultivation; and productivity and the cultivation as well as to help the cardamom growers. There are a (b) if so, the details thereof? number of cash subsidy schemes for the 23 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Oral Answers 24

cardamom growers. There is a cardamom and though the Cardamom Board is there, replanting subsidy scheme which helps by they are not involved in any way w ith the Rs.2, 500 per hectare to small grower ; that marketing programme for cardamom. There- is limited to 8 hectares and Rs. 1,500 to the fore, the cardamon which is the main pro- larger growers. duct in Kerala’s forest areas, it is auctioned by the traders in Tamil Nadu and they take it The Extension Advisory Scheme, Depart- to be other parts ; the actual cultivators are mental Nursery Scheme. Certified Nurseries not getting any profit out of the real price Scheme, these are all subsidised and in the which is realised by cardamom produced there. Certified Nurseries Scheme a subsidy of In this respect, I would like to ask the Rs. 6000 is given for 18 months old nursery Government what its policy is for marketing having 12,000 seedlings and Rs. 2500 for 10 cardamom and to see that the review profits months old nursery. generated from the cardamom sale go to the cultivators. And then, under the Western Ghat Development Programme subsidised supply The second aspect is, for increased of copper sulphate and supply of plant cultivation, forest is necessary, and forest protection equipments also have been is not available in this area. Has the Govern- sanctioned Soil conservation programme ment any programme to see that forests are is also one of the very major subjects that created and then leased for cultivation? we have taken in which the subsidy at the rate of 20 per cent of the actual cost of SHRI P.R. DAS MUNSJ : It is not construction subject to a maximum of correct that the cardamom price and the Rs. 1,000/- per hectare has been granted to market availability is not commensurate the grower. And, subsidy for construction with the profit of the growers and all these of Curing houses also is given. things. The fact remains that cardamom Trading Corporation is going to the market Apart from these in the Western Ghat very fast and they are, already in the market Project the Kerala Government have also and as a result of that, I may inform the participated and released Rs.25 lakhs. The hon. Member that the price of cardamom Cardamom Board has also participated and which had come down from Rs. 152 toRs.124 public financial institutions and planters and in the subsequent period after the have also participated. Al 1 this we hope to Cardamom Trading Corporation entered the achieve by the end of the Seventh Five Year market the price has been stabilised at Rs.134 Plan. per Kg. We are further trying to consider the problem and see whether we can find DR. K.G.ADIYODI : Jhe actual some more promotional avenues so that the amount spent by way subsidy etc., has not growers can get the benefit. We are definitely been ment ioned. concerned in the matter. We will visit Kerala shortly so that we can have direct acquain- The other thing is, now a Spices Board tance with the growers and go in depth into has been formed and the Cardamom Board the problem. We are considering every is to be amalgamated with it. What arc thr aspect of it. steps taken to enrich the Spices Board? » SHRI P.R. DAS MUNS1 : It is a fact The second part of the question of the that the Spices Board has been formed and hon. Member is about increasing plantation. it is also a fact that if the Cardamom Board The problem is the forest area you— know is to be merged with the Spices Board. We it— is very limited in the world, and as are looking into this matter, how to do this regards plantation we should concentrate merger, and we are working out the other more on increased productivity to bring details. down the cost of production.

SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS : The main SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS : Only aspect of this cardamom is that of market- Rs.50/- is the rate which is available to the ing and for the purpose of marketing and grower, while Rs.134 is the market price or sale, the private agencies are dependant, rate. 25 Oral Ans wers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

MR. SPEAKKR : Shri Manik Reddy hobilam possess wonderful architecture, absent. sculpture and paintings of rare beauty and grandeur. But due publicity should be Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy. given about this aspect so that we may attract tourists to these places. Will the hon. Tourist Potentialities in Anantapur, Minister depute a team to go and see these Andhra Pradesh temples and give due publicity to the excellent art and sculpture available there *169. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA so that tourists may tie attracted? REDDY : Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : MUFTI MOHD. SYED : It is for the State Government to give d uc priority to (a) whether Union Government are tourism. As far as these places of pilgrimage considering any proposal for development are concerned, we have not got any proposal of (i) Lepakshi, (ii) Sri Laxmi Narasimha- from the State Government. swami Temple Kaderi and (iii) Pennahobilam Temple in Anantapur district of Andhra New Export Entitlement Distribution Policy Pradesh as tourist spots ; and *170. DR. G.S. RAJHANS : Will the (b) if so, the details thereof ? Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state :

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUF11 (a) whether the Union Government MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) The Central have recently announced a new garments Department of Tourism has sanctioned export entitlement distribution policy for Rs. 16.08 lakhs for construction of way-side the year 1987 : facilities at Lepakshi during 1985-86, out of which an amount of Rs.4,00 lakhs has (b) if so, the details of the new distri- already been released. bution policy ; and

No proposal has been received from ihc (c) to what extent the exporters of State Government for development of Sri garments will be affected by the new LaVmi Narasimhaswami Temple Kaderi and policy ? Pennahobilam Temple in Anantapur district of Andhra Pradesh as tourist spots. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY ; KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. I would like to know from the hon. Minister, even though an amount of Rs. 16.08 (b) and (c) A statement is given below : lakhs had been sanctioned in 1985-86, we are now in 1986-87, why was this amount Statement not released and spend previously? Who is The various details of the New policy the executing authority? What happened to are as follows : Rs.4 lakhs that had already been released'.’ What are the wayside facilities that the I. As per the Export Entitlement Government is contemplating to establish? Distribution Policy for garments and knit- MUFTI MOHD. SYED : Already an wear announced by Government, there will amount of Rs.16 lakhs has been sanctioned be f.ve systems of allocation in 1987. The for the construction of tourist complex systems and the levels allocated in each there. Even this amount of Rs.4 lakhs which system arc indicated below : has already been released, has not been utilised by the State Government. The Systems °c of the annual level Department of Tourism has not got any utilisation certificate in order to enable it (a) Past Performance (PP) 65 to release the balance amount. (b) FCFS Small Orders (FCFS) 25 SHRI K.RAMACHANDRA REDDY : (c) Manufacturer/Exporter The temples at Lepakshi, Kaderi and Penna- (ME) 7 27 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 14. 1986 Oral Answers 28

(d) Central/State Corporations 2 and Apex Societies having their own produc- (e) Non-quota Exporters 1 tion facilities.

Division of Allotment Year and Apportionment Non-Quota Exporter System of Quantities : 7. In order to encourage exports to 2. Under the Past Performance System, non-quota countries, 1% of the annual levels Non-Quota Exporter System and the Manu- have been reserved for allocation to facturer Exporter System, there will be a one exporters with specific export performance time allotment with three periods for perfor- in the GCA non-quota countries. For this mance. 50% of the allotment should be purpose, the export performance for the utilised before 30th April ’87, another 25% periods July 1985 to June 1986 will be taken by 31st July, 1987 and the remaining 25% by into account. 30th September 1987, failing which the unutilized quota will have to be surrendered. The Garment Export Entitlement D istri- Under the First Come First Served Small bution Policy for 1987 will help in better Order System, there will be three periods utilisation of annual levels in countries with for woven items as before. The allocations which India has Bilateral Textile Agree- in these three periods for the above items ments. Besides there will be encouragement will be 15% for the tirst period, 7% in the to exporters who show good export perfor- second period and 3% in the third period. mance in non-quota countries because of the The periods for knitted items under First new system of allotment viz, non-quota Come First Served System will be 85% of exporter system. the level marked being allowed in the lirst DR. G.S. RAJHANS ; The statement period and 15% in the second period. referred to by the hon. Minister is quite Past Performance System : confusing. I do not know whether he can explain it. I would like him to explain it 3. As in the previous year, the base in simple terms so that the whole House is period for calculation of past performance benefitted by that. will be 2 \ years, namely 1984, 1985 and January-June 1986. The exporter will be SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR ; The eligible for allotment under this system only statement gives details of the quota distri- if he has export performance in the relevant bution policy asked for by the hon. Member. country/category during any two years of the It is the most concise form we could arrive three years. at because we have to explain various parameters of the policy. There are various First Come First Served Small Order System : sub-segments, various interests and technical 4. The applicant should be an income details involved. It is only in this form tax assessee and should file an affidavit we can give it. giving the list of associate firms for applying under the system. Exporters registered with DR. G.S. RAJHANS : I refer to item registering authority upto 30.6.1984 are 4 of the statement, wherein it is mentioned eligible to apply under this system. that the exporters registered with the registering authority upto 30.6.1984 are eligible to Manufacturer Exporters System: apply under this system. May I know the reason of this cut off date ? Again I want 5. The allocation under this system to know how the exporters will be beneritted will be made by the Textile Commissioner. by this policy ? The total allocation for a Manufacturer- exporter under Past Performance and SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : The Manufacturer Exporter system should neither hon. Member is referring to the first come exceed 110% of his average annual perfor- first served segment of the distribution mance nor his manufacturing capacity. policy. As the hon. Member is aware, the total quota available under that segment is Central State Corporation System limited. Therefore, we are not able to 6. Allotment under this system will be extend it more. We have extended it by made only for Central/State Corporations six months to give benefit to a larger number 29 Writ ten Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 30

of exporters who have started sincc then. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE We do not want to encourage people who MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI just come everyday and who may not be JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Accord- genuine exporters. We want to strike a ing to the information provided by the balance between those who have already Reserve Bank of India during the year 1985 exported in the past and those who are the 28 Public Sector Banks opened 1910 coming in the export field now. This has branches in the country. been arrived at after interaction with various interests including the new exporters. This (b) The present data collection system we do every year. docs not yield information relating to loans advanced during the year. However, the DR. G.S. RAJHANS : He will the total outstanding advances of 28 Public exporters be benefited ? Sector Banks as on the last Friday of December, 1984, were Rs. 43989.90 crores. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR ; The The corresponding figure of outstanding extension of the cut olf date will mean that advances as on the last Friday of December, those who are registered in those six months 1985 was Rs. 49902.40 crores. The incre- can also come in to the it. That is how mental outstanding credit during the year they are beneIIted. 1985 was therefore, of the order of Rs. 5912.50 crores.

MR. SPEAKER : Can they transfer The recovery of direct agricultural these quota to somebody else '? advances oy the 28 public sector banks during the year ending June, 1985 was SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Trans- Rs. 1,808.35 crores and was 54.2% or the ferability is allowed subjects to certain annual demand. safeguards in the case of two segments, namely past performance and non-quota [English] exporter systems. It is allowed so that the Commission for Stock Markets utilisation of the quota may be maximised. If somebody gets the quota and is not able *168. DR. CHINTA MOHAN to discharge the export obligation, he is SHRI MANIK REDDY : Will allowed to transfer so that our quota may the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to not lapse. state ;

MR. SPEAKER : Question Hour is over (a) whether there is a proposal to set now. up an independent commission with legal powers to check malpractices in the stock markets ; and

(b) whether “ Insider*’ trading is WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS proposed to be controlled early ? [ Translut ion] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- Branlies of Nationalised Banks DHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Government is exam in ing a proposal to set *165. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN : Will up an independent Commission to play both the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to a regulatory and a developmental role in state : the Indian capital market. The functions of the Commission, if it is set up, are inter (a) the number of branches of nation- alia, expected to include control of “Insider” alised banks opened in 1985 in the country ; trading. and Introduction of New Life Insurance Schemes (b) the position in regard to loans advanced and recoveries made in 1985 ? *171. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Will the Minister of Finance be pleased to

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(a) whether the Life Insurance Cor- The Group Insurance Scheme indicated poration of India has announced any new above is specially designed for the benefit Life Insurance Schemes to be introduced of the poor and weaker sections of society. this y e a r; The poor people will also stand to benefit under the Money Back Plan by availing (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ; payment of sum assured in instalments at and regular intervals, as also by the Beema Sandesh Scheme which provides death benefit (c) to what extent the poor people in at cheaper rates. the country will be benefitted by these new schemes ? Change in Foreign Travel Schcme Rules

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE *172. SHRI R.S. MANE: Will the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) In pursuance of the Budget announcements (a) whether Government are aware of made for the year 1986-87, the Life the hardship caused to Indian travellers due Insurance Corporation of India has intro- to change of FTS rules: duced a Group Insurance Scheme for railway porters and municipal sweepers. The (b) the total foreign exchange released Scheme, which is operated through Workers’ by Government for the FTS scheme in 1984, Unions, provides insurance cover of 1985 and the current year, giving figures for Rs. 5,000/-payable on death of the member each year separately; and an additional amount of Rs. 5,000/- if death occurs due to accident within 90 days (c) whether Government propose to re- of its occurrence. Yearly premium under consider making FTS available once a year the Scheme is Rs. 48.75 inclusive of premium for Indian travellers; and for the double accident benefit. (d) whether a certain amount of foreign Under individual assurance business, exchange saved by travellers on FTS wil 1 be L1C has introduced three new plans with permitted to be reta ined by them on effect from 1st September, 1986, viz., declarat ion of the same? Bhavishya Jeevan, Beema Sandesh and 25 year-Term New'Money Back Plan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI “ Bhavishya Jeevan” has been specially JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) This designed for professionals and expatriates decision has been taken in the interest of whose earning period is short but, during this conserving foreign exchange. period, their earnings are high. The Plan is so structured that the premiums under the (b) As per the latest available infor- Plan during the first five years are three mation, the quantum of foreign exchange times the premiums during the remaining released to Indian travellers going abroad term. “Beema Sandesh” is a form of under Foreign Travel Scheme (FTS) during temporary assurance policy providing death the last three years is given below benefit at cheaper rates. In case the poilcy- holder survives the term of the Plan, the (Rs. in crores) premiums paid for death benefit are return- Quantum of foreign ed to him. The New' Money Back Plan Year exchange released provides for payment of instalments of 15% each of the sum assured at regular intervals 1983 90.72 of five years for the first 20 years and 1984 153.37 balance 40% at the end of the full term of 1985 196.82 25 years. The death benefit under the Plan is equivalent to the basic sum assured (c) No, Sir. irrespective of the number of instalments paid earlier and the bonuses are also (d) Under the Rules, there is no pro- calculated on the full basic sum assured. vision for allowing foreign exchange saved 33 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

by (ravellers on FTS to be retained by them (b) to (d) A number of measures have on declaration of the same. been announced by the Government within the framework of provisions of the Industrial Export of Rice Policy Resolution of 1956 with a view to promoting rapid industrial growth. The measures taken towards liberalisation of *173. SHRI SRIHAR1 RAO : Will the Industrial Policy and Procedures include : Minister of COMMFRCF be pleased to Broad banding in 30 selected groups of state : industries ; Delicensing in 27 broad categories of industries and 82 bulk drugs and related (a) whether there is any proposal for formulations ; Raising the threshold limit of export of rice; and MRTP companies from Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 100 crores ; Libralised scheme of re- (b) if so. in what circumstances and endorsement of capacity ; Simplified proce- under what conditions ? dure for recognition of modernisation/ replacement/renovation of plant and machi- THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE nery ; Revision of Appendix 1 list of (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER) ; (a) and (b) industries : Reduction in export obligation Export of basmati rice is allowed under in regard to industries set up in Centrally Open General Licence subject to the Mini* declared backward areas; Encouraging export mum Export Price of Rs. 7,500 per MT production by exemption of licensing for (f.o.b.). Export of non-basmati rice is capacities set up in excess of the licensed allowed, within a limited ceiling, subject to capacity. the Minimum Export Price of Rs. 3,000 per MT (f.o.b.) against 100% confirmed Irrevo- These measures were announced recently cable letter of Credit only. Export of and it is too early to indicate the precise 5115 MT of non-basmati rice has been impact of these liberations. allowed for export during the current policy year upto 21.10.1986. Show Cause Notices to Cigarette Companies for Under-Valuation of Excise Duty Encouragement to Private Sector

*175. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: *174. SHRI ANIL BASU : SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: SHRI ANANDA PATHAK : Will Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to to state ; state :

(a) whether the Collector of Central (a) whether attention of Government Excise (Calcutta II) has served show cause has been drawn to the news-item appearing notices on some cigarette companies in the Indian Express dated 15th September, demanding payment of excise duty for 1986 under the caption “India encouraging under-valuation of cigarettes during Septem- private sector ; IFC" which stales that India ber, 1981 and February, 1983 ; is liberalising and encouraging its private sector; (b) if so, the details thereof ; and (b) if so, the reaction of Government (c) which of the companies served with thereon; notices have paid the arrears of excise duty till date ? (c) the areas and details of the said liberalisation allowed so far; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) the resu Its achieved through these THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI measures ? JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) Collector of Central Excise Calcutta- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE, (SHRI II has issued a show cause notice dated JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1.10.86 to the following companies; 35 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 36

(i) M/s National Tobacco Company Ltd. Loss in NTC (WBABO), Calcutta (A division of M/s Duncan Agro Industries Ltd. Calcutta). *177. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA S1NHA: Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased (ii) M/s Duncan Agro Industries Ltd. to state : Ca leutta. (a) whether it is a fact that the National (iii) M/s New Tobacco Company Ltd. (A Textile Corporation (WBABO) Limited, fully owned subsidiary of M/s Calcutta has still been suffering from huge Duncan Agro Industries Ltd.). financia 1 loss every month ;

(iv) M/s New Tobacco Company, (b) if so, the extent of loss and the Agarpara, for evasion of central reasons identified therefor excise duty amounting to Rs. 97,55,56,362.00 through undervalua- (c) whether some of the units are still tion of cigarettes during September working with Jess capacity ; 1981—February, 1983. (d) if so, the facts thereof; and (c) None of the Companies have so far paid any amount of duty demanded in the (e) action proposed to be taken to bring show-cause notice mentioned in (b) above. about effective management of the units under the said subsidiary ? Development of Shil?on;» and Sunderbans as Tourist Resorts THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) ; (a) and (b) The *176. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: net losses of NTC (WBABO) during April- Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased September 1986 were of a level of Rs.1.96 to state : crores as compared to the month ly average losses of Rs.2.19 crores in 1985-86 and Rs. (a) whether Government have prepared 2.74 crores in 1984-85. The major reasons any scheme for the development of Shillong for the losses, incurred by the mills under in Meghalaya and the Sunderbans in West NTC (WBABO) are as under Bengal as places of tourist resorts; (i) old and obsolete machinery in most (b) if so, the details thereof; and of the mills;

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (iii) prwer-cut and high cost of captive (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) to (c) power, resulting in under-utilisation No scheme for development of Shillong as of installed capacity in various mills; a tourist resort has been rece ived from the State Government. As regards Sunderbans (iv) increase in cost of coal, fuel, petro- in West Bengal, ihe State Government leum products etc; proposes to gradually open up the reserved forest area of the Sunderbans tp tourist (v) increase in cost of dyes and chemi- traffic. A 60-bedded tourist lodge was con- cals; structed and' commissioned in 1984 at Sajnakhali in the Sunderbans. The Central (vi) wage increase on account of increas- Department of Tourism has also given ed DA etc; Rs.16.50 lakhs to the State Government for acquisition of a motor launch for ferrying tourists to and from the Sunderbans. In (vii) excess labour fore* ; and 1984-85 an amount of Rs.7.00 lakhs has been sanctioned for bare-barge for floating (viii) difficulties in effecting sales in an accommodation. adverse market environment. 37 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

(c) and (d) A statement showing the (ii) Infusing better management at all spinning and weaving utiJisation of mills levels; under NTC (WBABO) Ltd., during the period April to September, J986 is given in (iii) Rationalisation of labour, in agree- the statement given below. ment with trade unions; ♦

(e) : The performance of NTC and its (iv) Strict control and supervision on the subsidiary corporat ions, including NTC filling up of vacant posts ; (WBABO), is reviewed by the Government from time to time. The strategy to improve (v) implementation of workers" participa- the effective functioning of the units under tion scheme in the management of NTC (WBABO) would include the following mills; steps 1 (vi) Improvement in product-mix; and (i) Str id control and supervision over the operations of the mills; (vii) Developing a greater sense of ethics in the organisation's work culture.

,4 b , 4H v Statcinen VC

Spinning and Weaving utilisation in mills under NTC (WBABO) Ltd., Calcutta AnswersWritten Name of the Mills Spinning Utilisation (%) Weaving Utilisation {%)

April May June July Aug *-% April May June July Aug. Sept.

fid SO m

1. Bengal Textiles 61.2 70.7 72.3 68.4 78.0 76.6 — — —■ '— — ■ — 2. M anindra Mills — — .— — — -— 77.0 79.2 83.6 87.8 80.5 80.0 3. Central Cotton 58.3 46.1 35.9 38.3 45.7 59.5 57.4 50.6 39.4 47.1 41.0 53.6 4. Bengal Fine N o.l 52.4 56.8 49.8 56.8 65.1 67.6 38.9 39.2 47.2 49.5 69.4 60.2

5. Bengal Luxmi 45.0 51.3 51.0 55.7 61.8 62.7 36.9 58.8 43.1 40.6 47.3 47.3 1986 14, NOVEMBER 6. Sri Mahalaxmi 76.2 67.5 59.0 71.4 75.4 68.9 75.5 65.4 60.9 68.7. 74.4 76.6 7. Rampooria 63.8 62.7 52.8 62.3 70.0 66.5 52.6 36.9 43.3 72.0 53.3 48.9 8. Luxminarayan 70.8 57.6 54.1 71.6 74.6 72.0 9. Arati Cotton 66.1 64.1 67.2 82.3 80.2 69.1 10. Bangasri 70.5 66.2 61.1 74.3 75.7 61.1 53.3 50.7 49.2 57.3 62.4 44.9 11. Bengal F.No.2 58.5 50.4 60.0 64.9 67.3 65.6

12. Jyoti Wvg. —• —• —. —. — — 34.8 37.8 44.4 40.0 43.0 37.0

13. Kanoria 76.0 67.5 48.4 42.0 72.9 78.5 — —- — — — —

14. Sodepore 70.0 69.4 56.4 72.9 79.3 74.7 — — — — > — —.

15. Associated 51.6 76.0 71.0 81.2 79.3 72.1 — — — — — ■ —

16. Bihar Co-op. 64.2 65.6 65.7 56.3 68.4 67.5 —« — — — — — ■ Answers Written 17. Gaya Cotton 64.8 54.6 60.2 57.2 54.1 56.0 31.8 42.4 44.0 47.2 48.0 5 0.2 18. Orissa Cotton 31.2 23.1 24.0 55.7 60.8 79.8 — — — — — —

Overall 60.2 57.2 53.5 61.7 67.5 67.3 52.0 47.3 46.7 54.0 54.0 53.9

Mohini Mills 66.0 70.6 65.8 57.5 74.3 55.6 65.5 66.0 68.1 61.5 65 .0 50.5 (Managed unit) 41 Written insuers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

Display of Sikh Flag at Fund Raising Function the hotels under the IDTC running at a lost in New York at present .

*178. SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA : According to the last balance sheet of SHRI SUBHASH YADAV ; Will the Corporation as available, ending 31st the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS of march 1986, 12 hotels out of a total of be pleased to state : 24 incurred net losses. The names of these hotels are : (I) Ranjit Hotel, New Delhi; (a) whether attention of Government (2) Ashok Bangalore ; (3) Akbar Hotel, New has been drawn to a news-item appeared in Delhi; (4) Aurangabad Ashok, Aurangabad; the ‘Patriot’ regarding display of a Sikh f ag (5) Khajuraho Ashok, Khajuraho; (6) Temple along with the Indian Tricolour at a fund- Bay Ashok Beach Resort, Mamallapuram; raising function in New York : (7) Varanasi Ashok, Varanasi; (8) Patliputra Ashok, Patna; (9) Jaipur Ashok, Jaipur, (10) (b) if so, whether it is a fact that a Kalinga Ashok, Bhubaneswar; (11) Madurai Pak istan i immigrant objected to remov ing Ashok, Madurai and (12) Samrat Hotel, of the Sikh flag; and New Delhi.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Aggreg ue of the losses suffered by these MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS units this year was Rs. 190.55 jakhs. How- (SHRI EDUARDO FALE1RO) : (a) and ever. Hotel Division as a whole made a net to (c) At a fund raising dinner arranged profit of. Rs. 260.63 lakhs. The Profit and jn New York by a non-official organisation Loss Statement of the Corporation for the called the International Immigrants Founda- current financial year w'ill be know only tion the flag of an individual organisation after 31st March, 1987. was displayed along with the national flags of some countries. Some questions were ic) The steps being taken to improve raised about this flag. A person claiming their working : to repiesent the Pakistani commuuity stated that his group wou Id walk out if this flag The follow ing steps have been taken to a lone was removed. Subsequently, all the improve their work ing ;- flages were removed by the organisers. Government deplore the attempt to display —-Product improvement through invest- a non-nat ional flag at a function at which ments to upgrade the product and intensive only national flags were displayed. inspections by High Powered Committees constituted for this purpose. Loss Suffered by ITDC Hotels — -Marketing (i) International linkages *179. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN : (ii) Intensive sales promo- Will the M inister of TOURISM be pleased tion abroad to state : (iii) Intensive Sales promotion in the domestic (a) the names of hotels under, the India market Tourism Development Corporation running (iv) Value for money--inter- at a loss at present; national and domest ic packages. (b) the total loss suffered during this ' year; and —Str ict control over expenditure.

(c) the steps being taken to improve l)ec>ine Trend in Price of Shellac their working? *180. SHR1MATI MADHUREE SINGH: THE MINISTER OF TOURISM Will the Minister of COMMERCE be (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) The names of pleased to state : 43 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14. 1986 Written Answers 44

(a) whether the declining trend in inter- then there has been no decrease in the national prices of shellac has adversely sonsumption of cotton. Therefore, it is too affected the interests of growers of stick Jac early to study the effect of mix ing of man- and seed lac ; and made fibres in Textiles on the cotton growers. (b) if so, the remed ial measures proposed to be taken by Government in this Disbursement of Iocome Tav Free Cash regard? Awards

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE *182. SHRI SIMON TIGGA ; Will the (SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER) : (a) The Inter- Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : national prices of shellac have declined, resulting in fall in prices at grower's level, (a) the method and system adopted in compared to the previous year. distributing 20 per cent income tax free cash rewards to informers and officers responsib le (b) Minimum Export Price of Lemon for seizure of gold, silver, narcotic and other Grade I shellac has been revised upwards contraband goods: which will ensure a reasonable price for seedlac and sticklac. (b) whether Government have received Mixing of Man-Made Fibre in Textiles any representations from employees or others for some changes in the existing *181. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : Will method of distribution and whether there is the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to any proposa I for the amending the present state : method ;

(a) whether an All India Cotton Growers (c) if so, the details thereof; and Seminar was held in Gujarat on 25th August, 1986; (d) if not, the reasons therefor?

(b) whether the cotton growers from all THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE over India demanded that stipulation on the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- mixing of man-made fibre should be relaxed DHANA POOJARY): (a) Under the existing as it would go against the cotton grower Reward Scheme, rewards are paid upto a in the countryl maximum of 20% of the estimated market (c) whether Government have studied value of the contraband goods seized/duty the effect of mixing of man-made fibre in evasion detected/realised under the Customs textiles on the cotton growers; and Act, Central Excise and Salt Act, Gold Con- trol Act and Foreign Exchange Regulation (d) if so, the deta ils thereof? Act, to the informers and departmental officers separately. In respect of gold, s ilver, arms/ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ammunition, opium and other narcotic MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI RAM drugs etc. subject to the overall ceiling for N1WAS M1RDHA) : (a) and (b) A nationa 1 rewards, 50% of the entitled reward is paid Sem inar on Cotton was held in Ahmedabad immediately after seizure as advance reward. on 24th August. 1986, under the auspices of Gujarat State Cooperative Cotton Federa- Final rewards are paid on completion tion Ltd. It was observed in the Seminar of appeal/revisionary proceedings, if any, that there was increase in the use of man- rhade fibres due to favoured treatment in The rewards sanctioned to the informers/ New Textile Policy. It was also recommend- Government servants are tax free. Rewards in excess of Rs.10,000/- to a Government ed that there should be specific favourable servant are decided by a committee of Senior treatment for the units which undertake to produce either cotton fabrics of specific Officers at different levels depending upon cotton blended fabrics. the quantum involved. This arrangement would ensure utmost objectivity and fairness (c) and (d)t The new Textile Policy in the rewards sanctioned to Government was announced only in June, 1984. Since servants. 45 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

(b) No Sir. 1 he tea growing States ? t (c) and (d) Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P. R. Violation of FERA by Company Executives DASMUNSI) (a) Target of production for and Directors the terminal year of the 7th Five Year Plan Period has been fixed at 760 Million Kgs. *183. SMT. GEETA MUKHERJEE : SHRI VISHNU MODI : Will (b) and (c) : The Central Plan assistance the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to through the Tea Board is likely to be of the state : order of Rs. 40.40 crores. In addition the industry and financial institutions would (a) the number of company Directors also be contributing to the developmental and Executives fined and arrested upto activities during the Seventh Plan Period. September, J986 for violating provisions of the Foreign Exchange Regulation Act ; Viscose Fibre Production

(b) whether some persons arrested and 1632. DR. B. L. SHAILESH : Will the detained under FERA during 1984 and 1985 Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : have been released ; and (a) tin* details of the viscose fibre plants (c) if so, the details thereof? in the countiy at present and their authorised production capacity ; THE MINISTER OF STATE JN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) whether the capacity is being fully JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) I he utilised and if not, the reasons therefor : Directorate of Enforcement (FERA) has arrested 36 Director(s)/Executive(s) of com- (c) the target for viscose fibre production . pany(ies) from 1.1.86 to September, 1986 for during the current plan ; and violating the provisions of the Foreign Exchange Regulation Act. After the con- (d) the prospects for viscose fibre being clusion of investigations, as per the usual increasingly used in India separately or procedure, the adjudication proceedings will mixing it up with the cotton and keeping its be initiated and appropriate penalty imposed. price structure under control ? Besides, where the facts of a case so warrant, prosecution proceedings will also be launched. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY Oh TEXTILES (SHRI S. (b) and (c) During 1984 and 1985, 41 KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) The Director(s)/Executive(s) of Company(ies) licensed capacity for regular viscose staple were arrested and have been released on fibre and modal viscose fibre is 76,500 tonnes bail subsequently by the concerned court(s). per annum. According to available information, the total installed capacity is about Investment Earmarked for Tea Industry 1,10,000 tonnes per annum. The capacity is not fully utilised, largely because the plants 1631. SMT. JAY ANTI PATNA IK ; of two companies are presently closed. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : (c) and (d) At present, the availability of viscose staple fibre from domestic pro- (a) the production target for tea in the duction is supplemented by imports under Seventh Five Year Plan ; OGL.. According to Vllth Plan projection, the consumption of viscose staple fibre is (b) the investment earmarked to achieve expected to increase to about 1,74,000 tonnes. the target; and In order to increase availability of VSF at reasonable prices, Government have, from (c) the break-up of the investment to be time to time, issued letters of intents for contributed by the Union Government and fresh capacity. 47 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answen 45

Rate of Occupancy in ITDC Hotels of Orissa (a) whether Government of Maharashtra has approached the Union Government for 1633. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the permitting the State to continue the Cotton Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : Monopoly Procurement Scheme for another three years; and (a) the occupancy rate in the hotels maintained by the ITDC in Orissa during (b) if so, the decision taken in this the last two years ; regard ?

(b) whether the rooms available in these THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE hotels are sufficient and suitable for foreign MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. tourists; and KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) The Government of Maharashtra approached the Union (c) the steps proposed to improve the Government for extension of the Cotton tourist traffic to this State during this year Monopoly Procurement Scheme for another and next year ? ten years with effect from 1st July, 1986.

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (b) The Government have decided to (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) and (b) The a How Maharashtra Government to operate occupancy of Hotel Kalinga Ashok at the Scheme for a further period of three Bhubaneswar dur ing the previous two years years with effect from 1st July, 1986 in its is given below : present form subject to the condition that their guaranteed prices shall be the same as Year %age room support prices of different varieties of cotton occupancy approved by the Government of India. 1984-85 46 1985*86 29 Cheating of Foreign Tourists 1986-87 (upto Oct. 86) 37 1636. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDW AJ : With a total number of 8 hotels func- Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased tioning in Orissa in the approved sector and to state : many others in the unapproved sector, hotel accommodation in the State is considered (a) whether some cases have come to the adequate. notice of Government of cheating, touting, overcharging and misguiding of tourists by (c) The fo llowing steps have been taken unscrupulous persons connected with the to improve the tourist traffic to Orissa : Ministry, particularly in Jammu and Kashmir,

(i) providing basic amenities to tourists (b) if so, the details thereof ; and at Chandrabhaga, Konark.

(ii) construction of Shopping Complex (c) the action taken in the matter ? and Day Centre at Konark. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (iii) setting up a Yatri Niwas at Satpada, (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) and (b) A Chilka Lake and at Konark. few allegations of this nature have been received. (iv) providing mini-buses, and elephants at Simlipal Wildlife Sanctuary. (c) The Matter is under investigation.

(v) tourism survey is being carried out Japanese Assistance in overcoming Rise to develop beach between Puri and in Project Costs Konark. 1637. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will Cotton Monopoly Procurement Scheme the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to in Maharashtra state :

1635. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the (a) whether it is a fact that Japanese Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : Government has agreed to help India 49 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

overcome the rise in project costs as a resu It 7. Public relations/promotional activi- of the appreciation of the Yen currency ; and ties relation to tourism to India.

(b) if so, the details in this regard ? 8. Setting up of show rooms/display centres (not overseas offices). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 9. Assistance to Air charter operators. JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) No, Sir. 10. Organisation of seminars/workshops (h) Question does not arise. in India relating to foreign tourists arrivals.

Proposal to Provide Assistance for The assistance would be available only Development of International Tourism to approved hotels/restaurants, approved travel agents/tour operators, IATA Airlines 1638. SHRI P.M. SAYEED : Will the and domestic airlines and other approved/ Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : recognised entities and would be in the form of reimbursement in Indian currency. This (a) whether Government propose to assistance would be available to such launch a scheme to prcvide assistance for approved agencies located in any part of the development of international tourism ; country including Lakshadweep.

(b) if so. the details of the scheme ; and Opening of Branches under New Branch Licensing Policy (c) whether the schc;rc would - be applicable to the Union Territories like Laksha- 1639. PROF. NARAIN CHAND dweep also ? PARASHAR ; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) to (c) Yes, (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India Sir. The scheme of Assistance for Develop- has allowed opening of any new branches in ment of International Tourism is proposed 1985-86 and 1986-87 by the nationalised to be launched from the current financial banks, licences for which were granted prior year. Under this programme, assistance to launching of new Branch Licensing Policy would be available for schemes/projects with in 1985 : special reference to the following activities ; (b) if so, the number of such branches opened State-wise, by each nationalised bank 1. Research/study of tourist markets during 1985-86 and 1986-87 ; abroad. #■ (c) whether some applications for licences 2. Publicity, advertising and other from some banks were not entertained and means of promoting tourism to India from returned for fresh survey identification in foreign countries. accordance with the new Branch Licensing Policy ; and 3. Cost of publicity material including printed material and films. (d) if so, the details thereof State-wise and bank-wise and the reasons for returning 4. Participation in tourism exhibitions, them ? fairs, festivals and similar activities in foreign countries. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI \ JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, 5. Promotional delegations. Sir.

6. Organising travel to India by travel (b) Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has agents, tour operators, media people or TV reported that 1397 branches opened during fi Jms includ ing fam tours. the period 1.4.1985 to 31.3.1986 and 325 51 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 52 branches opened during the period 1.4.1986 Licensing Policy came to an end on 31.3.1985. to 30.6.1986 by all scheduled commercial RBI has reported that the applications and banks were opened against licences issued requests received from the banks after under the Branch Licensing policy for 1982- 31.3.1985 for opening bank offices have not 85. The State wise details of such branches been considered by RBI with the exception of opened by all scheduled commercial banks 142 centres for 44 Regional Rural Banks are furnished in the statement given below. which had been recommended by National Bank-wise information is not readily Bank for Agriculture and Rural Development available with RBI. and 3 centres for the public sector banks which were allotted on account of immediate (c) and (d) The period of last Branch needs.

Statement

Name of the State No. of branches opined No. of branches opened between 1.1.So to between 1.4. /.'MO' to ••j 1.3. a m 30.n. VJHd

1. Assam 105 19 2. Andhra Pradesh 41 8 3. Bihar 210 65 4. Gujarat 76 13 5. Haryana 17 7 6. Himachal Pradesh 21 7 7. Jammu & Kashmir 19 1 8. Karnataka 94 4 9. Kerala 18 6 10. Madhya Pradesh 120 39 11. Maharashtra 103 29 12. Manipur 1 1 13. Meghalaya 3 2 14. Nagaland 2 1 15. Orissa 40 7 16. Punjab 23 2 17. Rajasthan 99 19 18. Tamil Nadu 25 6 19. Uttar Pradesh 155 26 20. West Bengal 192 58

21. Andaman & Nicobar 1 —• Islands 22. Arunachal Pradesh 4 3

23. Chandigarh 2 — 24. Delhi 16 1 25. Mizoram 9 1, 26. Pondicherry 1 —

Total 1397 325 53 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

Liberalisation of Import Policy The detailed Balance of Payments data, indicating individual items affecting move- 1640. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA ; ments in foreign exchange assets during this Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased period, are not yet available. to state : Incentives to Hotels at Tourist Centres (a) whether it is a fact that Government has liberalised its import policy ; 1642. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETH I: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased (b) if so, the details thereof'; and to state :

(c) how far it has helped in increasing (a) whether it is a fact that Union the exoport ? Government have initiated steps to identify important tourist Centres in the country to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN give special incentives to hotels in those THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE areas ; and (SHRI P. R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) The Government have been following a (b) if so, the details regarding the liberal import policy with a view to provide incentives alongwith the scheme of Govern- essential inputs to the industry so as to meet ment in this regard ? the interests of the domestic consumption as also for exports. The details are contained THE MINISTER OF TOURISM in the Import and Export Policy, 1985-88, (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) The copies of which are avai able in the Parlia- development of infrastructure at places ment Library. of tourist importance is a continuous process. The Department of Tourism in (c) While the liberal import policy has consultation with the State Governments/ provided easier access to capital goods, raw Union Territories have identified important materials and components required for e>port tourist centres all over the country ,for production, it is not possible to quantify its contribution in increasing exports. integrated development in a phased manner with the combined resources of/ t'entre, Foreign Exchange Reserves State and private sectors. During the Seventh Five Year Plan, 80-100 centres are 1641. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDD1N : proposed to be developed in a phased Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased manner. to state : Already, several incentives/concessions (a) the Foreign Exchange reserve as on are available to hotels. These include 1st April, 1st July, and 1st October, 1986 and exemption from the MRTP Act in the the corresponding figures for the previous matter of both new projects and expansion financial year ; and of existing hotels; income tax holiday to (b) the reasons for the drop in the new hotels; higher depreciation allowance; reserves ? central subsidy for, construction of new hotels in specifed backward areas; interest THE MINISTER OF STATE IN subsidy on hotel loans"advanced by IFCI; THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Foreign Exchange Incentive Quota for JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) overseas advertising/publicity, piomotional The foreign exchange reserves (excluding Gold tours, impoit of provisions, equipment and Special Drawing Rights) as at the end including vehicles (upto two in a year); of March, June and September, 1985 and 1986 concessional customs duty on a number of were as indicated below : items imported by hotels for actual 'use; (Rs. Crores) priority in the allotment of telephone/telex 1985 1986 connections, etc. Besides, some of the State 31st March 6816.78 -7384.35 Governments have also accorded hotels/ 30th June 6679.80 7084.91 tourism the status of an industry, which 30th September 6776.20 6754.27 entitles hotels to such concessions/incentives 55 Written Answers NOVEMBER, 14, J986 Written Answers 56

as are ava ilable to other industries in the (a) the total number and value of bids respective States, of Indian Companies which were supported i ' by the Export-Import Bank of India during Investigation in White Tallow Import 1985-86 ;

1643. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH : Will (b) the total amount and percentage of the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to the bids which were successful; and state :

(a) whether investigations regarding the (c) the reasons for the lost contracts misuse of 442,590 metric tonnes of White and steps taken to improve the position? TaJlow imported by Hindustan Lever Limit- ' ed have been completed; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- (b) if so, the,results thereof; and DHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) The Export-Import Bank of India (Exim Bank) (c) the action contemplated thereon? has reported that it has supported 150 bids THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE valued at Rs. 2315 crores during the period MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. April 1985 to March 1986. Out of the bids DASMUNSI) : (a) to (c) The allegation submitted during the above period, 86 bids regarding misuse of imported tallow was valued Rs. 329 crores have so far been referred to CBI. CBI have informed that successful. The successful bids as a percent- no material during the course of their age of bids submitted whose results are verification came to their notice regarding known according to value was 21%. the misuse of imported beef tallow by this party. (c) The Exim Bank has reported that in nearly 80% of the cases, price has been Central Plan to fchcourage Power loom the factor responsible for the lost contracts. Industry in Sindhudurg and Ratnagiri Districts To improve the position, Exim Bank has taken steps to track opportunities and access 1644. PRq F. MADHU DANDAVATE ; advance information as also to provide Will the Min ister of TEXTILES be pleased advisory services on tender documentation to state : and related processes to Indian Exporters/ Contractors. (a) whether there are any Central plans to encourage powerloom industry especially in the Sindhudurg and Ratnagiri districts Theft of Indian Passports in U.S.A of the backward Konkan region of M aha- rashtra to provide jobs to the unemployed 1646. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- in the region; and CHANDRAN ; Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (b) steps being taken to implement these plans? (a) whether Government have made THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE any enquiry into the recent spate of thefts MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. of Indian passports reported in the USA; KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) While the policy of the Central Government is to (b) if so, the findings thereof ; and encourage a healthy development of the powerloom sector, the formulation and (c) the total number of passports implementation of schemes for individual reported to be lost? districts is taken up by the concerned State Government and not in the Central plans. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Export-Import Bank Support to Bids by (SHRI K.NATWAR SINGH) ; (a) and (b) Indian Companies A press report alleging the theft of Indian 1645. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : passports in the United States has been Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased investigated and found to be without to state : foundation. 57 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, J908 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

(c) Losses of passports by individual information available from the State Indian nationals have been reported to our Government, the number of tourists who Misisons in the USA. These figures for 1986 visited Kashmir valley during the years are being collected and will be placed on 1984, 1985 and upto October, 1986, are as the Table of the House. given below ;-

Government Directive for Economy Year Number of tourists Measures Domestic Foreign 1984 192,684 3M58 1647. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANJGRAHI: 1985 465,599 38.015 SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: 1985 (Jan-Oct) 492.507 49,330 Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) No estimates are available in this to state : regard.

(a) whether Government have recently [Translation] restrained top Government officials from officially exchanging greeting cards on Compulsory Retirement of Officers and Independence Day, New Year Day, Re- Employees in Income Tax Department public Day and numerous other festive 1649. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD : occasions; SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) whether Government have also issu- state the number of the Income tax employees ed guidelines or directions through a circular and officers who have compulsorily been to Ministers and top bureaurats in this retired during the last one year (September, regard; and 198 5 to September, 1986) ?

(c) if so, the details regarding such THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE directions issued? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; Two officers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and three other employees of the Income- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN tax Department were retired compulsorily THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI as a measure of pcna Ity during the period B.K. GADHVI) ; (a) to (c) Guidelines from September, 1985 to September, 1986. issued in December 1971 have been reiterat- However, twenty seven officers and two ed in February 1986 for compliance by all concerned. A copy is laid on the Table of other emp loyees were prematurely retired during this period. the House [Placed in library. See No. LT 3283/86]. [English] Visit of Foreign and Domestic Tourists to Separate Bunk in” Scheme for Rural Areas Kashmir Valley 1650. SHRI H.B. PATIL : Will the 1648. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Will Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to (a) whether there is any proposal under state ; consideration of Government regarding the need for a separate banking scheme for (a) the number of foreign and domestic rural areas in the country ; tourists who visited Kashmir valley in the years 1984, 1985 and 1986 (till end of (b) whether some representations have October, 1986) year-wise ; and been received in this regard; if so, the details thereof ; and

(b) estimates, if any, of earnings made (c) the reaction of Government thereto? by various sectors of the State economy due to tourist trade? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF TOURISM JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) (MUFTI MOHD. SY ED ); (a) As per the Some suggestions had been received by 59 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 60

Government to consider the formulation of be pleased to state : a separate banking scheme for rural areas in the country. Considering that Commercial (a) whether the recent increase in Cash Banks and the Reg iona 1 Rural Banks are Compensatory Support (CCS) for exports already participating in a large number of of fruits and vegetables has encouraged their schemes in the rural areas and that the export; • banks are playing a major role in the implementation of the Integrated Rural Develop- (b) if so, the details thereof ; and ment Programme, the suggestion to have a separate banking scheme for rural areas (c) if not, the reasons therefor 7 has not been accepted. Government have no proposal, at present, before it to have a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE separate banking scheme for rural areas MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. as such. DASMUNSI) : (a) to (c) The revised rates of Cash Compensatory Support for exports Scheme to Purchase Vehicles through State of fruits and vegetables became effective Finance Corporation only from 1.7.1986. As such it will take $omc time for the export trade to respond 1651. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALL1CK : to the increased rates of Cash Compensatory Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased Support. to state :

(a) whether it is a fact that Government Export of Cotton by Private Agencies have recently approved a scheme under which State Finance Corporations have 1653. SHRI C. SAMBU : Will the been asked to grant loan for purchase of Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state ; tourist vehicles; and (a) whether Government have decided (b) if so, the details regarding this new to allow export of cotton/raw cotton by scheme ? private agencies ;

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) whether Government's decision to (b) The Scheme of Interest Subsidy allow private trade in cotton export will approved by the Government of India will not go against the interests of the Cotton be applicab le to all approved travel agents, Corporation of India (CCI) and cotton tour operators, car operators and State •growers of Andhra Pradeih ? Tourism Development Corporations. These agencies have been advised to apply directly THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to State Finance Corporations, financial MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S.- institutions and Nationalised Banks for KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. raising loans for purchase of tourist cars and coaches. (b) The inter-agency allotment to vari- Under the Scheme of Interest Subsidy ous exporting agencies including private the above categories approved by the Depart- trade is done on the basis of their purchases* ment of Tourism would be entitled to the expertise they have developed in exports etc. interest subsidy at the rate of 3% on the : rate which is operative at present, for the i timely repayment of loan instalments. (c) Cotton Corporation of India has been assigned a major role in exports, Impact of CCS Increase on Export of keeping in view its purchase operations. Fruits and Vegetables Andhra Pradesh Federation has also been given adequate export quota. The ^ interests )652. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE of cotton growers in Andhra Pradesh were PATJL : Will the Minister of COMMERCE . not adversely affected by this decision. 61 Written Answers KARTJKA 23, J908 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

Credit to Agricultural Sector in Karnataka accordance with the Banking Regulation Act, 1949 ? 1654. SHRI SRI KANT A DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADTYAR ; Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) (a) whether commercial banks have been The term of office of Directors on the Boards advised to increase the flow of credit to the of nationalised banks/State Bank of India is agricultura 1 sector; % governed by the relevant provisions of the Nationalised Banks (Management and (b) if so, the target set for the Sixth Five Miscellaneous Provisions) Schemes, 1970 and Year Plan and achievement made h granting 1980 and State Bank of India Act, 1955 credit to the agricultural sector in Karnataka respectively. No Director is at present in that plan period ; and holding office continuously for a period beyond 8 years on the Boards of any of the (c) the target fixed for the flow of credit 20 nationalised banks. In the case of State to agricultural sector in Karnataka in the Bank of India, 3 directors nominated on the Seventh Five Year Plan? Central Board of State Bank of India are at present holding office continuously beyond THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 8 years pending appointment of their succes- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI sors as required under the provisions of the JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) State Bank of India Act, 1955. However, Reserve Bank of India (RBI) had advised Keeping in view the spirit of the provisions all scheduled commercial banks to ensure that of the Banking Regulation Act. 1949, Govern- direct advances to agriculture should reach a ment have already initiated the process of level of at least 15% by the end of 31st identification of suitable successors in respect March, 1985. of two of the adove 3 directors. Appointment of a successor to the third director who is an In the State of Karnataka, according to officer director on the Central Board of State provisional information available, the direct Bank of India is subject to litigation in the agricultural advances of the 28 public sector Courts and the cases are pending. banks were Rs.556 crores as at the end of June, 1985 representing 18.9 percent of their Personal Accident Insurance Social Security total advances in the State of Karnataka. Scheme for Poor Families (c) No target, as such, has been fixed for the 7th Five Year Plan. The RBI had 1656. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI: advised all scheduled commercial banks to Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased increase the share of direct agricultural to state ; advances to 16% by the end of March, 1987. The ftanks are expected to maintain this level (a) The States where the centrally spon- along with the growth of total advances. sored personal Accident Insurance Social Security Scheme for poor families has been Continuance of Directors in Banks extended to all the districts in the States ; beyond Tenure (b) if none, the reasons therefor and 1655. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will when this will be done ; and the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (c) the number of persons or families bcnef ted and amount used so far for this (a) the number of Directors in the purpose ? nationalised banks including State Bank of India who are holding office continuously for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a period beyond eight years, bank-wise ; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) (b) the action taken or proposed to be The Personal Accident Insurance Social taken to remedy the situation as continuance Security Scheme for poor families has so far of a Director beyond eight years is not in been extended in a phased manner in 192 63 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 64 districts of the country since its introduction [English] on 15th August, 1985. While Districts have been allocated to all States and Union Reduction of Duty on Newsprint Territories and some Union Territories 1658. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will stand fully covered, there is no State so the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to far wherein the Scheme has been extended state : to all the Districts. This would be possible when the Scheme is extended to (a) whether the small and medium news- the whole country. paper organisations have demanded the reduction of the duty on newsprint ; and (c) So far, 853 families have benefited under the Scheme involving a total amount (b) if so, the reaction of Government of Rs. 25.59 lakhs and further 914 claims thereto ? involving a sum of Rs. 27.42 lakhs are under process. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [ Translation] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Go’d Ornaments The Government has received various representations seeking reduction of import duty on newsprint. During December, 1985 1657. DR. CHANDRA SHAKHAR customs duty on newsprint was reduced from TRIPATH ; Will the Minister of FINANCE the level of Rs. 825 per tonne to Rs.550 per be pleased to state : tonne. There is no proposal under consideration at present to alter the rate of customs (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- duty on newsprint. ment have allowed the people to keep gold ornaments ; Subscribed Capital of Joint Stock, Private and Public Limited Companies (b) if so, whether any quantity in this regard has been prescribed for the purpose ; 1659. SHRI V.N. GADGIL Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (c) if so, the quantity thereof so prescribed ; and (a) the total subscribed capital of joint stock, private and public limited companies (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? in India in 1984-85;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) how much of it was subscribed by THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI public financial institutions; and JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) Yes, Sir. (c) how much of it was subscribed by private individuals? (b) and (c) There is no quantitative limit for possess ion of go Id ornaments by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN individuals etc. However, under Section 16 THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE ; (SHRI of the Gold Control Act, 1968, possession JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The of go Id ornaments in excess of 200 grammes total subscribed capital of Joint Stock Com- by an individua I and 4000 grammes by a panies at work as on 31st March, 1985 is family, is required to be declared to the Rs.27,331 crores— Rs.6,287 crores in respect Gold Control Officer concerned. « of the public limited companies and Rs. 21,044 crores in respect of the private (d) Possession of go Id ornaments by limited companies. ind ividuals etc. find a significant place in our socia I life and is a Iso looked upon by (b) The shareholding of the all India the people as an economic security in the Financial institutions as in 1984-85 is Rs. event of need. No restriction on individual 926.80 crores. holding of go Id ornaments has, therefore, been prescribed as it could arouse resent- (c) According to an IDBI study on ment from the public. ‘ownership pattern of shares and debentures PA 65 Written Answers KARTIKA, 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 oflD B I assisted companies' covering 447 (b) whether the state Government have assisted units with a total paid-up capital of also proposed assistance through the Indus- Rs.1883.66 crores as at end of June, 1982, trial Reconstruction Bank of India (IRBI) the shareholdings of individuals in these for training and redeployment of labour companies amounted to Rs.490.91 crores or consequent to technology upgradation and 31% paid-up capital of the 447 companies. modernisation of sick units; and The IDBI sample appears to be quite representative of the pattern of shareholding by (c) if so, Government’s reaction thereto ? private individuals in the Joint Stock Companies. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Meeting of Indo-Spanish Panel JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) and (c) In a Memorandum submitted by ML As of 1660. DR. V. VENKATESH : Will the West Bengal to Finance Minister on 27th Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to June, 1986, one of the suggestions was for state : creation of a Central Equity Fund. The proposal had been examined by the Govern- (a) whether an Indo-Spanish panel met ment. In view of the fact the banks/linancial in Madrid from 29 to 31 October, 1986 ; institutions were already considering providing various types of reliefs and concessions (b) if so. that subjects discussed therein ; to rehabilitate sick units on a case to case basis and also keeping in view’ that there (c) whether low volume of bilateral trade was no insistence for maintaining the debt- was also discussed ; and equity norms in case of sick units, it was (d) if so, the details thereof ? felt that the purpose which was sought to be served by creation of the Central Equity THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Fund was being met already. The creation THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI of Central Equity Fund was, therefore, not P.R. DASMUNS1) : (a) to (d) The Indo- considered necessary. Spanish Joint Committee met in Madrid from 29th to 31st October, 1986. Besides (b) In the Memorandum submitted specially identifying some commodities like there was another suggestion for creation tea, coffee, tobacco, shellac, cotton, iron are, of a fund for retraining and redeployment fabricated mica, engineering and electronic of labour. This is under examination. components and assemblies for export from Release of Foreign Exchange for Travel India to Spain in order to improve the volume of Indo-Spanish trade, possibilities Purposes by RBI of bilateral cooperation were also discussed 1662. SHRI T. BALA GOUD : Will in sectors like marine products, rejuvenation the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to of citrus orchards in India for improving state : productivity and special varieties immune to pests and diseases. (a) the number of applications pending Proposal for Creation of a Central Equity in the Reserve Bank of India offices a t vari- Fund ous cities for clearance of foreign exchange ; (b) periods for which these have been 1661. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- pending in Delhi office of Reserve Bank of DAL : Will the Minister of FINANCE be India ; and pleased to state : (c) the steps taken to expedite their (a) whether in a Memorandum submitted disposal ? to the Union Government, the State Govern- ment of West Bengal has proposed the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN creation of a Central equity fund for provid- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ing long-term, interest-free loans through JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) banks and financial institutions for the The information is being collected and will rehabilitation of sick units ; be laid on the Table of the House. 67 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 68

[Translation] trial Development Bank of India (IDBI) to textile mills in Gujarat and other parts of Development of Naimisharanya in Sitapur U.P. the country from the newly created modernisation fund: and *1663. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT : Will the Minister of TOURISM (b) the amount of loan recovered from be pleased to state : these mills so far ?

(a) whether Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN develop ‘Naimisharanya’ a place of my- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI thological importance in Sitapur district, JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Uttar Pradesh as a tourist centre ; The Textile Modernisation Fund Scheme has become operative from 1st August, 1986. (b) if so, the details of the scheme The Industrial Develodment Bank of India chalked o u t; and has reported that the financial institutions have sanctioned total loan assistance under (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? this scheme aggregating to Rs. 4034 lakhs as on 31.10.1986. Of this, the textile mills in THE MINISTER OF TOURISM Gujarat have been sanctioned Rs.2278 lakhs. (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) to (c) In Disbursement of Rs. 60 lakhs has been made view of the resource contraint and other only in one case while in other cases the overriding priori ties in U.P., it has not been units are in the process of completing for possible to extend Central financial assistance malities for availing loan. Normally repay- to this proposal. ments commence two years after the date of first disbursement. [English] [English] Penicillin Import Policy Use of US Sikorsky Helicopters by Chinese 1664. DR.KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Wi 11 Intruders in Wang Dong Area in Arunachal the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to Pradesh state : 1666. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN (a) whether it is a fact that a uniform MOHANTY : Will the Minister of External policy is not being followed by the office of Affairs be pleased to state : Chief Controller of imports and Exports in respect of import of Penicillin for the large (a) Whether the Chines, intruders in and small scale sector ; and Wang Dong in Arunachal Pradesh are being supplied with the USA Sikorsky helicopters (b) if so, the reasons therefor ? sold to China ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, the reaction of Government THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI thereto? P. R. DASMUNSI) ; (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS [Translation ] (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) China is reported to have purchased some Sikorsky Loans to Textiles Mills by IDBI helicopters from the USA. Some of the these helicopters may be in use to support the 1665. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN; Chinese intrusion in Wang Dung. RAMJIBHA1 MAVANI ; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (b) Government are closely watching the situation and maintaining the necessary (a) the amount of loan given by indus- defence preparedness in the regioa. 69 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

[ Translation'] It is reported that Gramin Bank has so far opened branches at three out of the Inquiry into Charges Against Chairman of „ four centres for which licenses have been Pithoragarh Regional Rural Bank issued to it by the Reserve Bank of India.

1667. SHRI HAR1SH RAWAT : Will the [English] Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : Outstanding Amounts "rom I. T. D. C. (a) whether the charges against the Customers Chairman of Pithoragarh (U.P.) Regional 1668. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Rural Bank has been probed : Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : . (b) if so, the details of the inquiry report and the action taken thereon ; (a) whether it is a fact that lakhs of rupees of India Tourism Development (c) whether it is a fact that as a result Corporation were outstanding against their of charges against the Chairman, the results customers; of recruitment tests for this bank have not been announced so far with the result that (b) if so, the details of such cases as on this bank is not opening its branches ; and 31 March, 1986 ; (c) if so, the justifcation in withholding (c) details of amounts outstanding over the results and when they will be declared ? last three years : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) whether there is a provision to THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI charge additional rate of interest on such JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (d) amounts when they were not repaid within Pithoragarh Kshetriya Gramin Bank held the stipulated period ; recruitment tests through the National institute of Bank Management (N1BM) now- (e) if not, whether Government propose called Institute of Banking Personnel Selec- to impose such clause ; and tion for posts of Officers and Clerks in the month of June 1985. The interviews of the (f) the number of cases involved in successful candidates were conducted by a litigation showing amount involved and since Selection Committee comprising of the Chairman of the said Gramin Bank, repre- when ? sentatives of Sponsor Bank (SBI); RBI ; THE MINISTER OF TOURISM NABARD and State Go\ernment and a (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) to (c) The representative of S/C and S/Ts. When these requisite information regarding outstandings interviews were in progress the Chhatra against customers of ITDC is given below Sangharash Samiti of local Degree College led a demonstration alleging irregularities As on 31 March 86 by the Chairman in conducting recruitment tests. At a meeting of the members of the Total Outstandings Selection Committee and the representatives out— for more than of the Samiti convened by the Additional standings 3 years District Magistrate (P), Pithoragarh it was agreed that the results will not be declared (Rupees in lakhs) till such time the allegations are probed into. Govt.Deptts. 605.27 43.4 5 Others 546.05 56.76 It has now been reported that the State Bank of India has inquired into the charges 1151.32 100.21 made against the Chairman and the same have not been substantiated. Consequently the State Bank of India has already advised (d) and (e) Provision for charging the Gramin Bank to announce the results interest from customers on outstanding dues after consulting its Board of Directors. beyond the stipulated period exists in the 71 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 72

ITDC. However, this stipulation is not at Vladivostok on July 28, 1986. Relevant enforced strictly keeping in view the business excerpts from this were published in Indian interest of the Corporation. newspapers on July 30. A copy of these excerpts is laid on the Table of the House. (f) The requisite information is given in the Statement given below. [Placed in library. See No. LT 3284/86]

Statement Outcome of Ministerial Conference on Gatt

The Number of cases Involved in Litigation 1670. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH and the amount Involved SHRI MURLI DEORA : Will the Year since when No. of Amount Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to under litigation cases involved state : Rs. in lakhs (a) the outcome of the reccnt General 1971 1 0.09 Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) 1972 2 005 meet in Uruguay ; and 1973 2 0.45 1974 3 0.26 (b) in what manner the meeting helped 1975 1 0.17 to safeguard the trading interest of India 1976 3 1.93 and other developing countries ? 1977 1 0.02 1978 1 0.05 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1979 4 2.65 THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 1980 6 0.83 P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) The 1981 2 0.29 Ministerial Meeting held at Punta del Este 1982 10 2.24 (Uruguay) in September this year launched 1983 14 4.29 a new round of multilateral trade negotia- 1984 19 12.30 tions. The Declaration adopted by the meet- 1985 17 28.32 ing is in two parts— part I relates to negotia- 1986 9 6'03 tions on trade in goods and part II relates to negotiations on trade in services. Whereas 95 59.97 the first part was adopted by the Minister’s meeting as CONTRACTING PARTIES to GATT, the second part was adopted by Soviet Proposal Regarding Asia Pacific Ministers meeting as representatives of Security Governments. The negotiat ions on services would thus be held on a separate track out- 1669. SHRI DINESH SINGH: side the framework of GATT. The decision SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA to keep negotiations on trade in services MURTY: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL outside the framework of GATT was the AFFAIRS be pleased to stale : result of stand tahen by India and many other developing countries that GATT did (a) Whether Government have received not have jurisdiction in the area of services any proposals from Soviet Union regarding and the GATT • approaches would not be Asia Pacific Security ; and appropriate for the services sectors on account of their varied character and socio- (b) if so, the details thereof ? economic ramifications. Further these countries perceived the danger of the possi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ble use of the leverage of trade in goods to THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL secure concessions in the area of services in AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : the event of negotiations for both trade in (a) and (b) Government have not received goods and trade in serv ices taking place any formal proposal from the Soviet Union within the GATT framework. regarding Asia Pacific Security. Perhaps the reference is to the proposal made in a The Declaration adopted at the meeting speech by General Secretary Gorbachev also provides for special and differential 73 Written inswers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

treatment for developing countries in the (b) if so, the details thereof; negotiations. The negotiations will cover a number of areas of significant interest to (c) whether Government propose to issue developing countries such as liberalisation, any guidelines to State Governments to ensure of trade in tropical products agriculture and regular distribution of cheap cloth to the textiles, a comprehensive agreement on safe- weaker sections of the Society ; and guards, improvement of dispute settlement mechanism etc. (d) if so, the details thereof and if not, the reasons therefor ? Insurance Scheme for Farmers THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 1671. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) TheGouernment MALIK : Will the Minister of FINANCE have received information on unauthorised be pleased to state : sale/diversion of controlled cloth.

(a) whether Government propose to (b) The details are given below : introduce a specia 1 scheme for providing life insurance cover to the members of (i) About 630 bales of controlled cloth farming community so that in case of death despatched to Bihar (Ranchi) were some monetary benefits are available to the lost in transit in March, 1985. dependents of the deceased farmers out of which they can meet the loan liabilities of (ii) About 30,000 metres of controlled the farmer and maintain themselves ; cloth seized by Central Excise Department in Farrukhabad (U.P.) (b) if so, the details thereof; and from processors in July, 1984.

(c) if not, the reasons therefor ? (iii) About 4,000 metres of polyester cotton blended shirting despatched THE MINISTER OF STATE IN in January, 1986 to Nagaland has THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI not reached its destination so far. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) The LIC has introduced a scheme in (iv) In October. 1985 irregularity was the State of Madhya Pradesh to provide detected in the distribution of insurance cover to loanee farmers for the controlled cloth in Rajasthan by amount of loan granted by District Coopera- private wholesalers appointed by tive Banks subject to a minimum of Rajasthan Government. Rs. 1,000/-. and maximum of Rs. 10,000. All loanees between ages 18 and 59 (v) 340 bales of controlled cloth des- are eligible for insurance cover granted patched to Orissa in February- without any medical examination against March, 1986 did not reach their premium at the rate of Rs. 9/- per thousand destination. sum assured. The LIC is also making efforts to introduce similar schemes in other States. (vi) During 1985-86, the Sikkim Consumer Cooperative Society Ltd. [ Translation] distributed controlled cloth in an irregular manner. Guidelines on Distribution of Cheap * Cloth to Weaker Sections (vii) Some Cooperative Societies of 1672. SHRI SHANT1 DHARTWAL : Andhra Pradesh were reported to have irregularly sold controlled Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased cloth in bales instead of in small to state : quantities to the target group during (a) whelher Government have received the year 1985-86. any complaints regarding sale of cheap cloth in the open market openly instead of its These cases are being investigated by distribution among the poor people ; appropriate agencies. 75 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 76

(c) and (d) Government have requested (b) is so. the details thereof and the State Government/Union Territories Adminis- steps taken to ensure the safety of mission trations to strengthen and streamline the and persons working therein ? distributional arrangements, which are primarily their concern, in order to ensure that • THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE controlled cloth is not diverted to unautho- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS rised channels. Government have also (SHRI K.NATWAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. requested the State Governments/Union Territories Administrations to open a large (b) According to our information a number of rural outlets for the sale of group of about 100 Indians, mostly Sikhs, controlled cloth so that the weaker sections had gone to the Indian Embassy at around of the society can be covered adequately 9.45 a.m. on October 6, 1986 ostensibly to under the Scheme. discuss consular grievances with the Charge d’Affaires a.i. while there they also handed [English'] over a written memorandum signed by about 260 persons which had “AIASSF” superin- Excise Relief to Industries scrided on it in hand. Their consular problems were discussed with them and this 1673. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA discussion was to be resumed. R A O : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : However, around 2.15 p.m. some of these persons forced their way to the balcony, (a) whether there is any proposa I to grant removed the national flag and hoisted a so excise relief to those industries which make a called “Khalistan flag” . They also raised categorical commitment to pass on the pro-Khalistani slogans. A portrait of Prime entire benefit arising out of such concession Minister, which was in the reception hall, to the consumer in the form of a cut in was forcibly removed and smashed by the prices; agitators. The agitators left the Embassy at about 2.45 p.m. The Mission immediately (b) if so, the details thereof : and contacted the local authorities who provided prompt security for the Mission (c) whether Government have identified and the staff. W;hile the primary responsi- the consumer durable items for this purpose ? bility for security of the Embassy and its personnel rests with the host Government, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government is keeping a close watch on the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI situatian and all possible steps have been JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) taken to ensure the safety of the Mission and Same proposals have been received its personnel. suggesting excise duty reliefs for selected industries for stimulating demand for their Restoration of Munabao-Khokrapar Rail Route products. It is not considered expedient in public interest to give details of these pro- 1675. SHRI H.N.NANJE GOWDA : posals at this stage. Decision would be taken SHRI G.S.BASAVARAJU : Will at the appropriate time having regard to all the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be the relevant considerations. pleased to state :

Attack on Indian Embassy in Beirut by Sikhs (a) whether it is a fact that Indian Railway delegation which was to visit 1674. SHRI H.B.PATIL : Will the Pakistan in September, 1986 to hold discus- Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be sion in connection with reopening of rail pleased to state ; route between Khokrapar-Munabao had cancelled the same ; (a) whether attention of Government (b) if so, the main reasons for delay in has been invited to the newsitem appeared restoration of the Indo-Pak rail link ; and in ‘Free Press Journal’ dated 8 October, 1986 that 50 Sikhs attacked the Indian Embassy (c) whether Indian delegation had a talk in Beirut; and with its Pakistan counterpart recently in this 77 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

regard and if so, the outcome of the talks by Government against any industrial held ? undertaking alongwith the reasons ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) Yes Sir. (SHRI EDUARDO FALE1RO) : (a) to (c) In the Indo-Pak meeting on the reopening of (b) and (c) The constitution of the Munabao-Khokrapar rail route held in July, Board is under the consideration of Govern- 1986, a decision was taken to reopen the rail- ment. When it is set up, it will function route. The agreement for the reopening of under the provisions of the Sick Industrial the rail route is yet to be signed. Companies (Special Provisions) Act, 1985.

Cotton Exported from Gujarat Review of US Policy of Arms Supply to Pakistan Consequent on Withdrawal of Soriet 1676. SHRI R A N J1TSING H Troops from Afghanistan GAEKWAD : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : 1678. SHRI KRISHNA SINGH ; Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be (a) the quantity of cotton exported from pleased to state Gujarat during each of the last two years ; and (a) whether the Soviet Union has started withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan as (b) whether Government have taken any announced by it ; steps to find out new markets for export of cotton ? (b) if so. Government's information about the progress made so far in this THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN regard ; and THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMER) : (a) A quantity of (c) whether Government of India has 18,879 bales was exported from Gujarat brought this development to the notice of during 1984-85, while a quantity of 83,092 US Government urging it to review its bales was registered for export during policy of arms supply to Pakistan on the 1985-86. plea of helping the latter to withstand the threat from Afghanistan side and if so, the (b) Enquiries from overseas buyers, are response of US Government ? promptly attended to. Besides, delegations THE MINISTER OF ESTATE IN visit foreign countries to strengthen the THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL existing markets and find out new markets. AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALE1RO) : Board for Industrial and Financial (a) and (b) According to Soviet official Reconstruction announcements the withdrawal of six regiments of Soviet troops from Afghanistan 1677. SHRI KAILASH YADAV : began on 15 October 1986 and was SHRI ANANTA PRASAD sETHI: completed on 31 October 1986. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (c) Government have repeatedly drawn to state : the attention of the United States Govern- ment to the fact that its massive arms (a) whether it is a fact that a Board for supplies to Pakistan do not relate to the Industrial and Financial Reconstruction was situation in Afghanistan. to be appointed under the Sick Industrial Companies (Special Provisions) Act, 1985 ; Implementation of Reservation Rules in Allahabad Bank (b) if so, the details about the constitution of the Board, the names of the office- 1679. DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN ; bearers and the functions given to them ; s h r i a n a n d i c h a r a n d a s : and SHRI LALA RAM KEN : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (c) the details about the action taken state : 79 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 80

(a) whether there is a standing direction (iii) Officers cadre with effect from to all the public sector banks to clear the 19-7-1969 backlog in respect of reservation of scheduled castes and scheduled tribes for their II. For promotions from Clerical to recruitment and promotion ; Officers cadrc with effect from 1-1-1980. (b) whether any particular date has been indicated in the direction from which the Handloom Industry in Maharashtra backlog is to be assessed ; and

1680. SHRI YASHWANTRAO (c) if so, whether the Allahabad Bank GADAKH PATIL : Will the Minister of has been following the direction in respect TEXTILES be pleased to state : of clearance of backlog as well as its assessment from the specified date and if it is not (a) whether it is a fact that the number following the reasons therefor ? of handlooms is declining in Maharashtra ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, the details thereof and the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI reasons for stagnation of the handloom JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) After nationalisation of the 14 major banks industry in the State ; and in July, 1969, the nationalised banks were (c) The measures taken or proposed ta advised by Government to follow the instruc- be taken to revive the industry in the state ? tions regarding reservations for candidates belonging to scheduled castes and scheduled tribes in the matter of direct recruitment. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN The six newly nationalised banks were also THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI advised in similar terms on their nationalisa- S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. tion. The nationalised banks have also been advised, on a number of occasions, to clear (b) According to the information suppli- the backlog in vacancies reserved for ed by the State Government of Maharashtra: scheduled castes and scheduled tribes can- the number of handlooms had come down didates. The banks were expected to from 1,85,000 in 1971 to 77,375 in 197 6 and compute the backlog from the date of to 65.910 in 1981. The latest figure for 1981 nationalisation in the case of direct recruit- is based on the registration of handlooms ment and from the date of introduction of done by the State Government of reservations, in the case of promotions. Maharashtra. Reasons for decline in handlooms can be attributed to poor earning capa- The boa*Kls of the nationalised banks city of the weaver, inability of apex and also review and monitor, periodically, the regional apex cooperative institutions and performance relating to clearance of backlog corporation in the handloom sector ta in the matter of reservation for scheduled organise production and marketing within castes and scheduled tribes candidates both and outside the State, poor quality of the in the case of direct recruitment and pro- products as compared to handloom fabrics motion. of other States, lack leadership and management etc. (c) Allahabad bank has reported that it has been following the directions of the (c) The Government of Maharashtra, Government in clearing the backlog which with assistance from the Government of were assessed by it as under: India, has been implementing a number of schemes for the development of the hand- 1. For recruitment in ; loom sector. The cooperative institutions and the State handloom development cooper- (i) Sub-ordinate cadre with effect ation in Maharashtra have been provided from 1-1-1970 financial assistance for undertaking modernisation of handloom to help improve the (ii) Clerical cadre with effect from quality as also the marketability of the 1-1-1970 handloom fabrics produced in Maharashtra. gl Written Answers KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) W ritten Answers 82

[Translation} recommendations of the IDA Deputies will be considered by the IDA Executive Board. Seizure of Hashish (b) I DA-8 is expected to commence 1681. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU from 1st July 1987 and funds have not yet DEVI : Will the Minister of I INANCF. be been committed to any country. As such pleased to state : the share of IDA in I DA-8 is not known.

(a) whether a large quantity of hashish SC,ST Employees in India/; Overseas Bank has been seized in Delhi and other places during the recent months ; and 1683. SHRI BANWARI LAL BA1RWA : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) il so.it.> value in the international to state : market ? (a) total number of oflicers in Scale-ill THE MINISTER OF STATE IN and above scalc-wise- in Indian Overseas THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Bank as on 30th September, 1986 ; JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir. According to reports made available to the (b) total number out of them belonging Government o\cr, 18 tonne of hashish have to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes; been seized during the Frst 10 months of and 1986 in Delhi and other places in the country. (c) whether Government directives have been properly implemented by the bank in (b) No precise value of the drug seized promotions within officers’ scales ? can to furnished as the illicit market price varies widely from place to place and time THE MINISTER OF STATE IN to time depending upon various factors like THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI purity of the drug, local demand and supply JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) position, r^ce of origin, etc. Total number of officers in Scale-Ill and above, scale-wise in the Indian Overseas [English] Bank as on 30th September, 1986 and out of them those belonging to Scheduled Outcome of IDA-8 Talks in Washington Castes/Scheduled Tribes, as per information furnished by the bank were as under : 1682. SHRI MURLl DEORA : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Scale Number of officers state : as on 30-th I UNO

(a) the outcome of the IDA-8 talks Total No. of which SC/ST held in Washington recently ; and (b) India’s share in the fresh IDA loans / 2 3 announced ? Middle Management Grade 395 ‘NIL’ S-Ill THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Senior Management THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Grade S.IV 103 NIL* JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) At the recent meeting of IDA Deputies in Septem- Senior Management ber, 1986 in Washington, a consensus on an Grade S-V 23 ‘NIL* IDA-8 Replenishment of US$ 11.5 million Top Executive emerged as also an agreement to examine Grade-Vl 8 'NIL* the possibility of increasing the size to US Top Executive $12 billion through voluntary contributions. The Deputies have also recommended a Grade-VII 4 ‘NIL’ hardening of IDA terms and differentiation between “blend countries” and “least (c) The Indian Overseas Bank was not developed IDA recipient countries.” The maintaining rosters for the purpose of 83 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answer? 84 calculating posts reserved for Scheduled The deposits mobilised by Government Castes/Scheduled Tribes in promotions with- Companies increased by about Rs.204 crores in the officers cadre of the bank as it con- as at the end of March 1985 over March sidered the method of promotion* followed 1984. Corresponding increase >-by Scheduled by it to be based on selection and not on Commercial Banks was to the tune of Rs. seniority subject to fitness. On scrutiny of 11839 crores. It will be seen from the above, the information furnished by the bank to the that the deposits mobilised by Government Government and after discussions between Companies, are not very significant as the officials of the Government and the bank, compared to growth of deposits of Schedu- the bank was advised to provide for reserva- led Commercial banks. Deposits, and other tions for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes Monetary and banking aggregates are under in promotions within the officers cadre as continuous review by the Reserve Bank of the method of promotions followed by it India and changes are instituted whenever was considered to 'te based on seniority considered necessary. subject to f.tness and not strictly on selection basis. The bank has accepted the edvise [Translation] of the Government and has cast the rosters for promotions within the officers cadre Econonic Crisis in Textile Industry from Junior Management Grade’ Scale-1 to Middle Management Grade Scale-II and 1685. SHRI BALWANT SINGH Middle Management Grade Scale-11 to RAMOOWAL1A : Middle Management Grade Scale-111, pro- SHRI TEJA SINGH DARDI : viding for the reservations at the rate of Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased 15% and 7'.% for Scheduled Castes and to state : 9 Scheduled Tribes respectively. (a) whether it is a fact that cotton textile Steps to Increase Public Deposits in mill industry is passing through economic Nationalised Banks crisis this year; 1684. SHRI N. SOL’NDARARAJAN : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) if so, the details thereof ; to state : (c) the action being taken by Govern- (a) whether Government are aware of ment in this regard ; the present trend of Government owned companies mobilising public deposits in a (d) whether it is also a fact that while the big way which is effecting the growth of price of cotton this year has gone down as deposits in nationalised banks ; and compared to the last year the prices of (b) if so. the steps taken by Reserve cotton yarn have not been decreased pro- ‘ Bank of India to increase public deposits in portionnately ; and the nationalised banks? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (e) if so, the action being taken by THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Government in this regard ? JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) As perthe information available the total THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN amount of deposits (regulated) mobilised by THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES! (SHRI Government companies during 1984 and S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) It does not 1985 is as under : appear, from indications available, that the textile mill industry is passing through an (Amount in Rs. crores) economic crisis this year. As on No. of Amount of Deposits Com- Deposits with (b) and (c) Do not arise in view of (a) panies (Regulated) Schedu- above. led Com- mercial (d) While the raw cotton prices had Banks come down by 25.3% by September, 1986 31.3.1984 48 553J 60732 compared to Sept., 1985, the corresponding 31.3.1985 55 756.7 72571 reduction in the prices of cotton yarn is #5 Writ (if n Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 86

17.8%. Decline in yarn prices in direct pro- (b) The UN has endeavoured to avoid portion to the decline in raw cotton prices adverse impact on it* operations by effecting may not be possible becaiKc yam prices are economy measures like freezing of recruit- governed by the cost of other inputs namely, ment reductions in expenditures on overtime, labour, power, fuel, electricity, textile travel, curtailment in the number of machinery and stores etc. and the cost of conferences and ether establishment costs. these inputs has gone up. The payments earlier were also financed out of UN reserves which amounted to approxi- (e) Does not arise in view' of (d) mately US S 200 million. above. (c) Yes Sir. [English] (d) The suggCsStiom contained in the Reduction in UN Contribution fram Leading report include proposals for streamlining Nations both the Secretariat and the inter-Govem- mental structure, reductions in staff, 1686. SHRI V1JAY N. PAUL : establishment of priority areas and improv- SHRI M AT 1 MADHUREE ing the decision making procedures in the SINGH : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL budget area. These measures aim at AFFAIRS be pleased to state : making the UN more efficient and effective while at the same time reducing the overall (a) Whether there has been any reduc- expenditure. tion in the contribution of finances to U.N.O from leading nations ; (e) India Participated as a member of the Group of High Level inter-Governmental (b) if so, the effcct of financial reduction experts and played an important and con- in the operations of U.N.O. and its structive role in its proceedings and in the agcncies : drawing up of its report. India has also made early payment of its contribution to (e) Whether an inter-Governmental body the UN regular budget for 1986. of experts has given its report on the finances and need for streamlining the Outstanding Loans Against Big United Nations Organizations and measures Business Houses for making the w'orld body stronger and more effective : 1687. SHRI MOHANBHA1 PATEL : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (d) if so, what are the suggestions con- to state : tained in the report ; and (a) the total amount of outstanding (e) steps Governmei.l of India are taking advances/loans against big business houses to strengthen the U.N.O. and its allied extended by the nationalised banks as on agencies to tide oxer J nancia! difficulties ? 31 March, 1986 ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) the period of accumulation of out- THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL standing loans/advances against these business AFFAIRS (SHRI K.NATw X r SINGH): houses and the rate of interest charged on (a) Yes Sir ; these are outstanding payments the amount ? to be made by some of the member countries including USA and USSR against their THE MINISTER OF STATE IN assessed contributions to the regular budget THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI of the UN Organiza (ion. As on 30th June JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) 1986, the total outstanding balance is to the Reserve Bank of India has reported that the tune of approximately US $ 462 million total outstanding advances of the scheduled which includes US f 247 amd US $ 76.7 ' commercial banks against 20 big industrial million required to be paid by USA and houses stood at Rs. 2359 crores as on last USSR respectively. Friday of March, 1986. These advances are 87 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 88 for different types of facilities and carry (b) the steps taken/proposed in this different rates of interest depending upon the regard ? type of credit facilities, such as demand loans, cash credits, overdrafts, packing THE MINISTER OF STATE JN credits, purchase and discount of inland and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI foreign bills as well as medium and long JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) term loans which are repayable beyond a The information is being collected from all period of 3 years and the financing of sales Public Sector Banks and to the extent avail- on deferred payment basis under Industrial able and permissible under the rules will be Development Bank of India Bills rediscount- laid on the Table of the House. ing scheme. While short term advances to industry other than SSI units are charged Members of Commonwealth interest in the range of 16.5%— 17.5% per annum, term loans for not less than 3 years 1690. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will are charged interest at 15% per annum. the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Advances for purpose of exports both at the pleased to state : pre-shipment and post-shipment stages are charged interest at 9.5% for 180 days. (a) the names of the members of the Commonwealth and since when they have Proposal to Introduce Coaches for Touri«ts been members ; i i Wild Life Sanctuaries (b) which nations have ceased to be 1688. SHRI T. BASHEER : Will the members of the Commonwealth and when ; Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : and

(a) whether Kerala Government have (c) to which agencies and associations of sent any proposal to introduce coaches for the Commonwealth, Government make finan- wild life sanctuaries to increase tourism in cial contributions and to which Government the State : and do not make such contribution ?

(b) if so, the sanctuaries selected and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the extent of assistance being given by the MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Union Government to the State ? (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) to (c) A Statement is given below : THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) Yes, Sir. Statement State Governmsnt of Kerala has approached this Ministry for financial assistance amount- Member countries of Member ing to Rs. 14.60 lakhs for the purchase of the Commonwealth since 4 Mini Buses i.e. two each for use in I. Antigua & Barbuda 1981 Parambikulam and Neyyar Wild Life 2. Australia 1931 Sanctuaries. 3. Bahamas 1973 4. Bangladesh 1972 (b) The proposal of the State Govern- 5. Barbados 1966 ment is under consideration. 6. Belize 1981 7. Botswana 1966 Directives for Inclusion of SC ST Members 8. Britain 1931 on Departmental Promotion Committees 9. Brunei Dar-es-Salam 1984 10. Canada 1931 1689. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS ; 11. Cyprus 1961 Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 12. Dominica 1978 to state ; 13. Fiji 1970 (a) the names of the public sector banks 14. The Gambia 1965 which have not yet implemented the direc- 15. Ghana 1957 tives issued by Government for inclusion of 16. Grenada 1974 SC/ST Members on the departmental promo- 17. Guyana 1966 tion committees; and 18. India 1947 89 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

19. Jamaica 1962 8. Commonwealth Fund for Technical 20. Kenya 1963 Cooperation ; 21. Kiribati 1979 22. Lesotho 1965 9, Commonwealth War Graves Com- 23. Malawi 1964 mission ; 24. Malaysia 1957 25. Maldives 1982 10. Commonwealth Advisory Aeronauti- 26. Malta 1964 cal Research Council ; 27. Mauritius 1968 28. Nauru 1968 11. Commonwealth Forestry Institute, 29. New Zealand 1931 Oxford ; and 30. Nigeria 1960 31. Papua New Guinea 1975 12. Special Commonwealth African 32. St. Christopher Nevis 1983 Assistance Programme (SCAAP). 33. St. Lucia 1979 34. St. Vincent & the Grenadines 1979 Seizure of Gold at Sahar International Airport 35. Seychelles 1976 36. Sierra Leone 1961 1691. DR. A.K. PATEL 37. Singapore 1965 SHRI C. JANGA REDDY ; 38. Solomon Islands 1978 Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 39. Sri Lanka 1948 to state : 40. Swaziland 1968 41. Tanzania 1961 (a) whether Custom Officers seized about 42. Tonga 1970 140 gold bars arresting three employees of 43. Trinidad & T

Ireland, South Africa and Pakistan have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ceased to be members of the Commonwealth THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI since 1949, 1961 and 1972 respectively. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) On 8th August, 1986, the Officers of Customs Government of India makes financial CoJIectorate, Sahar Airport, Bombay, while contribution to the following bodies under keeping a discreet watch over Aeroflot Flight the Commonwealth : No. SU-560 noticed two traffic agents of Aeroflot moving in a suspicious circum- 1. Commonwealth Air Transport stances. On noticing the Customs Officers, Council ; one of the agents ran away leaving behind a folder in the passage of aero bridge. He 2. Commonwealth Secretariat ; was apprehended along with three other traffic agents. Examination of the abandoned 3. Commonwealth Broadcasting Asso- folder resulted in the recovery and seizure of ciation ; 140 gold bars of 10 tolas each of foreign origin collectively valued at Rs. 34,85 lakhs. 4. Commonwealth Foundation ; Assorted foreign currencies equivalent to Rs. 7404 were also seized. In this connec- 5. Commonwealth Agricultural Bureaux tion, all the four persons were arrested. International ; (b) Reports received by the Government 6. Commonwealth Youth Programme : and seizures made indicate that gold continues to be sensitive to smuggling into 7. Commonwealth Science Council; the country. Gold is smuggled in by air, 91 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 92 sea, land routes and through passengers in The steps initiated by the Government their baggage and on their person. Smugg- to increase foreign tourist traffic to the ling being a clandestine activity does not. by country include improvement in infrastruc- its very nature, lend itself to any estimate. tural facilities, special overseas publicity and However, the value of • gold seized by the marketing campaigns, increase in the airlines Customs authorities during the years 1983 to capacity, offering of facilitation for tourist 1986 (upto September) is given below : charters and improvements in the airport arrived and departure facilities.

Year Value Export of Coal from Meghalaya by MMTC (Rs. in crores.) 1693. SHRI G.G. SWELL : Will the 1983 4.18 Minister of COMMERCE lie pleased U> 1984 10.24 state : 1985 51.89 1986 38.95 (provisional) (a) whether the Minerals and Metals (upto September) Trading Corporation has started exporting coal from Meghalaya to Bangladesh : Increase in Foreign Tourist Traffic (b) if so. the amount and the price per 1692. SHRI ANAND SINGH : ton contracted for : and SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA : Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased (c) the quantity of the coal exported so- to state : far ?

(a) whether it is a fact that fiow of THE MINISTER OF^TATE IN THE foreign tourists traffic has been significantly MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. higher this year as compared to last year ; DASMUNS!) : (a) Yes, Sir, \ (b) if so, the comparative figures for (b) A contract has been entered into for 1984, 1985 and 1986 so far indicating per- export of 50,000 M.T. of Meghalaya coal. centage rise ; and It will not#be in the commercial interest of the Corporation to disclose me prices. (c) the steps being taken to further increase this tourist traffic in future ? (c) A quantity of 759 M.T. of Meghalaya coal has been exported to Bangladesh upto THE MINISTER OF TOURISM October, 1986 in the current financial year. (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) to (c) During the current year there has so far been a Under- Utilisation of World Bank Loan significant upsurge in the arrival of foreign tourists. The number of foreign tourists, 1694. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : excluding nationals of Pakistan and Bangla- SHRI MURL1DHAR MANE : desh, who visited India during 1984, 1985 Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to and January-October, 1986 along with state : percentage of change are as given below : (a) whether it is a fact that India has Year Number % change over under-utilised the W'orld Bank loan during previous year the last few years ;

(b) If so, the reasons thereof ; 1984 835,503 — 5.6 1985 836,908 0.2 (c) the quantum of loan taken by India 1986 773,608 (P) 17.1* from World Bank during the last three years (Jan-Oct) and details of their utilisation ; and (P) Provisional. (d) steps proposed to be taken by * Compared to corresponding period of Government to ensure fujl utilisation of such previous year. loans in future? <93 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN during the last three years and upto July, THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1986 are JANARDHANA IOOJARY) ; (a) to (c) No Sir. quantum of loans,credits committed to Year (Value Rs. crores India by the IBRD and IDA was Rs.1126.46 crores in 1983-84, Rs. 2829.62 crores in 1983-84 147.70 j984-85 and Rs. 3279.75 crores in 1985-86. 1984-85 157.60 The utilisation of IBRD loans and IDA 1985-86 164.60 > credits in 1983*84 was Rs. 1314.59 crorcs, 1985-86 49.63 in 1984-85 Rs. 1268.04 crores and in (April-July) 1985-86 Rs. 1544.40 crorcs. World Bank 1986-87 51.62 group assisted projects are implemented (April-July) over periods normally extending between five to seven years. The assistance committed is utilised over the entire span of the project, The above figures do not indicate any decline and not immediately after commitment. in the export earnings.

(d) The progress of utilisation of the (b) and (c) To Provide additional World Bank loans for various projects is impetus and to increase the availability of under constant review by the Government woolen yarn for carpet weaving, the follow- of India. Wherever the utilisation is lower ing steps have been taken ; than the target, Government of India alert the project authorities and State Govern- (1) Setting up of an Institute for Carpet ments. Technology at Bhadohi to look after the technical requirements of the industry. [Translation] (2) A separate Carpet Export Promotion Crisis in Mirzapur Carpet Industry Council to boost exports of carpets in the world market. 1695. SHRI UMAKANT MISRA : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to (3) Cash Compensatory Support at rates state : varying between 8 to 18Vo depending upon F.O.B. realisation per sq. nits, and 12% on (a) whether he is aware of the crisis silk carpets have been announced with effect faced by carpet industry in Mirzapur- from 1st July, 1986. This has resulted in a Bhadohi and in various other parts of the 1% increase in CCS rates for higher ‘knotted country which provide employment to lakhs carpets. of people and earn foreign exchange to the tune of crores of rupees; (4) Sales-cum-Study teams are sent to foreign countries to explore market poten- (b) if so, the measures being taken to tials. overcome the crisis faced by carpet industry ? (5) Duty drawback at the rate of 3% of the FOB value of the export. (c) whether steps are being taken to make woolen thread and wool, the main (6) Import Replenishment under Impor- raw material available to the industry at Export Policy. cheaper rates ; and (7) Duty oil import of wool has been (d) whether import of wool by carpet reduced from 40 to 20% with effect from manufacturers will be exempted f.iom excise March, 1986. duty'by Government ?

[English] Development of Sea Ports in Andhra Pradesh

Cut in IDA Aid 1698. SHRI V. TULSIRAM ; Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to* 1696. SHRIMAT1 N.P. JHANSl state : LAKSHM1 : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (a) whether the Minerals and Metals Trading Corporation had made some effo rts (a) whether it is a fact that the Inter- for the development sea ports in Andhra national Development Association has Pradesh ; and substantially reduced the share of India in IDA ; and (b) if so, the specific steps taken by the Corporation in this regard and the details (b) if so, the implications of this heavy of the ports developed/to be developed ? cut in IDA aid on the development plans of the country ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) MMTC THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI has taken keen interest in improving infras- JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir. tructral facilities at Vishakapatnam port. The commitment of IDA credits to India A proposal for deepening of this port to was approximately 40% of total IDA credits handle vessels of 170,000 DWT is under to all countries in the World Bank’s fiscal consideration of the Government. M.M.T.C. year 1980, and has gradually come down to have spent Rs. 8.6 lakhs on detailed engi- 19.9% in the fiscal year 1986. neering study of iron are handling system. It has also financed Vishakapatnam Port (b) Compared to other forms of external Trust to the extent of Rs.9 crores for assistance, IDA funds are highly concessional improvement in the port facilities. and therefore a decline in IDA funds would result in increasing the effective cost of Destruction of Soiled Currency Notes external resources. 1699. DR. G.VIJAYA RAMA RAO : Outstanding Excise Duty Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : 1697. SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) whether Government are aware that to state : many banks are passing off damaged and torn currency notes to the public ; (a) the names of companies whose excise dues are rupees five crores and above ; (b) whether it is a fact that at the same time most of the banks are refusing to accept (b) names of those companies whose soiled and slightly torn currency notes ; and excisc dues are between rupees 3 to 5 crores : (c) if so, action proposed to be taken by Government in the matter ? (c) the total dues outstanding against these companies ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (d) steps taken to recover the dues JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c> Reserve Bank of India have reported that a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN' few complaints were received that some THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI bank branches issue soiled and torn notes JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) to (d) The to the public. Instances of some branches information to the extent possible is being refusing to accept damaged/tom currency collected and will be laid on the Table of notes have also come to the notice of the House. Reserve Bank of India. Such complaints are 97 Written Answers KARTIKA 23. 19C8 (SAKA) V> riitrn Answers 98 taken up by the Reserve Bank oi India with fb) if so, the action proposed to be taken the concerned banks for remedial action. by Government for encouraging replantation As and when soiled or torn currency notes in the entire area under tea ? arc received in the brancncs of the banks acting as agents of Reserve Bank of India, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN they are retained by them and are periodi- THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI cally remitted to Reserve Bank offices for P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Tea plantation in examination and eventual destruction. Himachal Pradesh have been having problems arising out of low yield, high rate of Scheme for Production ar.d Marketing of vacancy, non application of modarn scientific Pashmina Shawls and Carpets in f.eh cultural methods, poor manufacturing facilities etc. They are. however, now showing 1700. SHRI P. NAMGYAL : Will the signs of improvement. Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that a scheme (b) Tea Board under its various schemes for production and marketing of Pashmina provides loans and subsidies for increasing shawls and carpets in Leh and Furook tea production. Tea growers all over India Pattoos and carpets weaving in Zanskar of including those in Himachal Pradesh can Ladakh was submitted last year to Union avail of the benefits of such schemes if they Government for clearance ; filfil the eligibility criteria.

(b) the salient features of the scheme ; CSIR Complex at Palampur undertakes and research and development work for improvement of.tea plantations in Himachal Pradesh. (c) the reasons for delay in clearance of Recently an amount of Rs. 34 lakhs has the scheme and when the scheme will be been, sanctioned by the banks under cleared ? NABARD refinance to 8 tea estates in Kangra for developmental activities. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI Allocation of Funds for Tourism in Andaman S. KRISHNA KUMAR) ; (a) Yes, Sir. and Nicobar Islands.

% (b) The scheme envisaged setting up of 1702. SHRI MULIAPPALLY production units for Pashmina shawls and RAMACHANDRAN : Will the Minister of carpets in Leh and Furook Pattoos and TOURISM be pleased to state : carpets in Zanskar. (a) the steps being taken by Government (e) The scheme was not found feasible to promote tourism in the Andamans ; and, therefore, the same could not be approved. However, one centre cach in Leh (b) the amount of allocation made under and Zanskar for imparting training in the Seventh Plan for this purpose and the Pashmina shawl and Furook Pattoo have intended annual disbursement ; and been approved for implementation. More- over, 8 centres in Leh and 2 in Kargil (c) the amount already spent on the for training in Carpet Weaving have already development and the extent of work been functioning. completed ?

Tea Plantation of Himachal Pradesh THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) The Ministry 1701. SHRI D:N. REDDY : Will the of Tourism has recently finalised an Action Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to Plan to develop tourism in the Andamans, state » : v ...» envisaging an expansion of tourist facilities.

(a) Whether.Government are aware that (b) and (c) Fund allocations are not 'the tea plantation in Kangra, Himachal made on the basis of States/Union Territories Pradesh, is dying due negligence of the tea but in recognition of the importance of the estate owners ; and centre from the tourism point of view and 99 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 100

subject to availability of funds and inter-se- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN priorities. In 1985-86, the first year of the THE MINISTRY OF EXTRNAL AFFAIRS Seventh Plan, an amount of Rs. 4.48 lakhs (SHRI K.NATWAR SINGH) : (a) and (b) was released to the U.T. Administration to The Charter of the South Asian Association carry out a Survey to determine the suitability for Regional Cooperation states in Article X of construction of a Jetty on cinque Island. that bilateral and contentious issues shall be The Survey is being carried out by Andaman excluded from the deliberations. Therefore, Harbour Works, Ministry of Shipping and bilateral issues are not going to be discussed expected to be completed by January, 1987. at the SAARC Meetings in Bangalore.

Development of Dapoli as Tourist Centre [English]

1703. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI ; Widening Trade Deficit with European Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased Economic Community to state : 1705. SHRI RAM PYARE PAN1KA : (a) whether Union Government or State SHRI RAM DHAN ; Will the Government of Maharashtra have explored Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to the possibility of developing Taluka place state ; Dapoli in Ratnagiri District from the point of view of promotion of tourism ; and (a) whether it is a fact that there was a wide trade gap between India and European (b) the areas of tourits interests such as Economic Community countries and the hill forts, ssa forts, beaches, historical monu- same is getting wider ; and ments and caves, jungles and creaks, hot springs within a radius of 25 Kms from this (b) if so, the steps being taken to step up place ? exports to EEC countries and to reduce the trade gap between India and EEC countries ? THE MINISSER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) There THE MINISTER OF STATE IN is no proposal for development of Depoli at THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI present. However the Government of P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Yes, Sir. The Maharashtra has identified Harne, Anjale, provisional data in respect of imports and KeJshi, Dabhol, Panhale Kazi Caves, Unware, exports beeween India and EEC countries Bankot Chikhali as places of tourist interest for the last three years is shown below ; near Depoli, but has decided not to develop them for the present because of inadequate (Rs. Crorcs) basic infrastructural facilities in the area and EXPORTS IMPORTS DEFICIT general resource constraint. 1983-84 1702.40 3801.01 — 2098.61 [Translation] 1984-85 1946.72 4070.91 — 2124.19 1985-86 1888.07 _4622.37 — 2734.30 South Asian Regional Cooperation Council Meet (b) Efforts continue to be made to promote Indian exports to the EEC countries through 1704. SHRI JAG DISH AWASTHI : various trade promotion measures such as Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS exhibitions, trade fairs, exchange of delega- be pleased to state : tions and other marketing efforts in addition to securing better access for different products (a) whether obstacles coming in the way from the EEC Commission. of bilateral relations would be discussed in the meeting of the South Asian Regional Cash Compensatory Support for Cooperation Council to be held this month in Coffee Export Bangalore ; and 1706. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : (b) if so, the matters proposed to be Will the Minister of COMMERCE be discussed and with which countries ? pleased to state : 101 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

(a) whether Government are considering (b) if so, how many cases of bank fraud a suggestion made by Coffee Board to give in the nationalised banks were noticed since a higher rate of C ash Compensatory Support the beginning of 1986 till date and how does on instant cotTee exports : and the figures compare with the bank fraud cases during the corresponding period in (b) if so, the action taken in this regard? 1985 stating the amount involved ;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) the main reasons for the rise in the THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI bank fraud cases ; and P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) The suggestion has been considered. The data (d) the measures taken by Government furnished by the Collce Board did not justify to check these frauds ? higher rate cl Cash Compensatory Support on instant coffee exports. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Proposal to Reduce Price of Viscose JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Staple Fibre The Reserve Bank of India has reported, on the basis of periodical reports received from 17(7. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Public Sector Banks, that the number of Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased banks frauds detected in the country and the to state : amount involved therein during the years 1984, 1985 and 1986 (upto 30.6.86) are as (a) whether Government propose to indicated below ; reduce the price of Viscose Staple Fibre (V.S.F.) to facilitate the small units to restart Year No. of frauds Amount involved their units as the manufacturers of V.S.F. delected Rs. in crores are taking benefit of their monopoly and import of V.S.F. is costlier for customs duty 1984 2410 45.18 reasons : 1985 2157 53.49 1986 764 20.95 (b) if so, the details thereof; and (upto 30.6.86)

(c) if not, the reasons therefor (c) and (d) Frauds occur in banks not on account of lacunas in the systems and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE procedures but mainly owing to non-obser- MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. vance and non-application of the laid-down KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (c) The price procedures and safe-guards. To prevent of Viscose Staple Fibre is not fixed by the frauds, banks are therefore, taking steps to Government. While deciding the import strenghthen the control mechanisms including policy and customs duty on Viscose Staple the internal audit/inspection machinery and Fibre, domestic production and requirement to make them effective so as to eliminate of Viscose Staple Fibre by the Consumer the scope for frauds and malpractices. industry are taken into consideration. Reporting and detection of frauds is also Government keep a close watch on the being toned up. Banks take serious view of domestic pi ices as well as prices of imported the irregularities Committed by their Viscose Staple Fibre. employees and initiate action to inflict punishment, befitting the seriousness of Bank Frauds the irregularities, on the delinquent employees. Inter-branch reconciliation has 1708. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI also been expedited in banks. KHAN : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : / Development of Tourism in West Bengal

(a) whether it is a fact that bank fraud 1709. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA ; cases in the public sector banks have been on Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased the increase ; to state : 103 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers ]04

(a) details of schemes taken up for Seventh Plan period ? development of tourism in West Bengal during the Sixth Plan period ; and THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) A (b) schemes which have been taken up statement is given below : or are proposed to be taken up during the

Statement* SIXTH FIVE YEAR PLAN (Rs. in lakhs)

S. Name of Scheme Year of Sanctioned * Released No. Sanction amount amount*.

1. Purchase of boats for Mirik Lake and Rabindra Sarovar 83-84 1.71 1.54 4 2. Motor launch in Sunderbans 81-82 16.50 16.50

3. Mini Bus at Jaldapara 81-82 2.35 2.35

* 83-84

4. Trekking Equipment 82-83 1.51 1.51

5. Floodlighting of Tcrrecoia Temple in Vishnu pur 84-85 3.80 3.42

6. Trekking huts in Sandakphu- Phalut Region 84-85 7.87 4.00

/ 7. Construction of Cottages at Ajodhya Hills 84-85 8.25 2.13

8. Bare barge for floating accommodation at Sunderbans 84-85 7.00 3.50

’ 48.99 34.95

SEVENTH FIVE YEAR PLAN

(i) Construction of Tourist Lodge \ and Cottages at Digha 85-86 ' 41.00 20.00

? (ii) Yatri Niwas ot Darjeeling 85-86 47.39 10.00

(iii) Floodlighting of Rabindra Bharti at Jorasanko, Calcutta • 86-87 15.50 3.00- 105 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers J 06

Castor Oil Export to USSR (a) whether any raids had been conducted recently by the Directorate of 1710. PROF. RAMKRISHNA' MORE : Revenue Intelligence and the Customs on Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas- the contraband goods markets at Madras, ed to state : Bombay and other placcs ;

(a) whether castor oil export to the (b) if so whether any goods have been USSR has been on the decline ; seized ; and

(a) the comparative figures of castor oil (c) if so. the total value thereof ? exports to USSR during the last three years, year-wise, stating the factors respon- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN sible for the decline in its exports and the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI extent of loss in foreign exchange earnings JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) The as a result thereof ; and total number of raids/searches conducted by the Customs authorities, including (c) the steps taken to step up the export Directorate of Revenue Intelligence, under of castor oil ? the Customs Act, 1962, against open displays and sale of smuggled goods and in connec- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tion with smuggling activities, throughout THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI the country, including raids/searches con- P.R. DASMUNSJ) : (a) and (b) As against ducted in the markets at Madras and the trade plan provision for export of caster Bombay, during the three months period oil to USSR whiqh has been at a constant from July to September, 1986 and the value level of 35,000 tonnes per year for the last of the goods seized as a result thereof, -is three years, exports of caster oil have been given below ; as follow ; Number of Va lue of goods seized Year Quantity Value in raids;searches (Rs. in crores) in Tonnes Rs. Crorcs 3712 5.37 1983-84 17,080 24.60 (Figures are provisional) 1984-85 34,225 44.42 1985-86 31,600 26.54 Loans to SC ST Under IRDP

The volume of export has not shown any 1712. SHRI K.D. SULTAN PURI ; Will significant decline but there has been substan- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to tial shortfall in export earnings on account of state : fall in pricc as a result of surplus production in Brazil which is the other major producing The details of the loans advanced by the country. various nationalised banks to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in the country (c) The Government has announced CCS under Integrated Rural Development Pro- at the rate of 5% on exports of castor oil gramme during the last one year ? medicinal BP which constitutes .the bulk of castor oil exports. Therle is also CCS on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN some castor oil derivatives ranging from 1 HE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 8 to 10 per cent. Jt is anticipated that grant JANARDHANA POOJARY) : The credit of CCS on export will enable us to step up disbursed by the banking system to the Sche- export of castor oil. duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes beneficiaries under the Integrated Rural Development Raids on contraband Goods Markets Programme during 1985-86 was Rs.268.61 / crores which constituted 36.8% of the total 1711. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI : credit disbursed. The present data reporting SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the system does not yield information separately Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : for the nationalised banks. 107 Written Answers NOVEMBFR, 14, 1986 Written Answers 108

Steps to Improve Working of NTC THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI 1713. SHRI BHATTAM SR1RAMA S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : The new Textile MURTHY : Will the Minister of TEXTILES Policy of June, 1985 has envisaged guide- be pleased to stale : lines for growth and development of the Textiles Industry in India not only for (a) the anticipated losses during the increase in production of cloth of acceptable current year; quality at reasonable prices to meet the domestic requirements, but also for upgradu- (b) whether the investment on moderni- tion of the quality of cloth so as to make sation and renovation of the mills under the it internationally competitive. Some of the National Textile Mills is expected to make important measures taken in this direction the Mills viable ; are as follows :

(c) the investment made so far and the (i) Lifting the ban on the expansion of results achieved ; and weaving capacity in the organised sector ;

(d) whether the Chairman-cum-Manag- (ii) allowing full fibre flexibility ; ing Director has since been appointed and if not, the reasons thereof? (iii) rationalisation of fiscal levies on certain man-made fibre/yarn ; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI (iv) decision to set up more powerloom S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) It is anti- Service Centres with active help of the cipated that the losses of NTC Mills during Textile Research Associations for imparting the current year might exceed the losses last training to powerloom weavers to increase year which were about Rs.117 crores though their productivity and improve the quality of all possible steps are being taken to contain the cloth ; the losses. (iv) several measures for development (b) and (c) Upto June 1986, an amount of handlooms ; of Rs.340.38 crores had been spent on modernisation/renovation of the mills under (vi) setting up of a national level NTC. After modernisation capacity utilisa- Advisory Committee for modernisation of tion, production, productivity, production the textile industry ; value and sales realisation etc. have registered significant increases. However, further (vii) creation of a Modernisation Fund ; heavy investment on modernisation would be required to make the NTC mills viable" (viii) Certain sophisticated textile machinery required for modernisation is (d) No, Sir. But interviews were held allowed to be imported at concessional duty by the PESB last month and further action with expert obligation. is-being taken.' Price of Black Pepper Steps to Bring Textiles Units au International Standard 1715, SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU ; Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to 1714. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE ; state : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state the steps taken by Government to (a) whether it is a fact that the price of bring the textiles units at international black pepper is increasing in the international standard in term of cost and quality of market : and cloth particularly in the light of the new textile policy announced by Government (b) if so, the steps taken by Government in 1985 ? to increase production and export of pepper ? 109 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 110

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN fares by Airlines, participating hotels, tour THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI operators and travel agents. Utilisation of P.R.DASMUNS1) : (a) Yes, sir. seats on Air India from Europe during April/June 1986 was a total of 9340 as (b) The Ministry of Agriculture and the compared to 1918 seats during April/June, State Government of Kerala are undertaking 1985. several development programmes for increasing production of pepper. Thess include distribu- At present Indian Airlines offers two tion of hybrid varieties, assistance for plant off-season concessional air fares between protection etc. for increasing production and Dclhi/Srinagar/Delhi and on the Delhi/Agra/ productivity of pepper. Khajuraho/Varanasi/Bhubaneswar routes

Spices Export Promotion Council is taking Although Vayudoot does not offer any various steps such as participation in fairs concessions on air-fa re during the off-season, exhibitions, sending trade delegations, arrang- tourists can take advantage of their holiday ing trade meetings, advertisement and publi- package tours operated in collaborawith city through media for increasing export of with State Tourist Development Corpora- spices including pepper. Export of pepper tions during the off-season. during 1985-86 have reached a new peak valued at Rs. 172.48 crores as against the To promote Domestic tourism during off previous record earning of Rs. 60.54 crores season India Tourism Development Corpora- in 1984-85. Exports during the first six tion oTeii special packages at reduced tariff months of 1986-87 are provisionally estimated covering all age groups inclusive of non- to be at Rs. 106.78 crores as against Rs. 23.32 resident Indians. crores during April-September, 1986. Removal of Directors of NTC Concession in Air Fare and Hotel Accommodation to Tourists 1717. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH : 1716. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the SHRI SODE RAMAIAH : Will Minister of TOURISM be pleased to the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : state :

(a) whether Government have introduc- (a) whether some top executives of the ed a scheme to give concession in Air fare National Textile Corporation have been and Hotel accommodation to tourists during removed after an evaluation of their per- off-season ; and formance ; and

(b) if so, the details therefore and the (b) if so, the fu II details ? number of tourists availing of these concessions ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER ]N THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI THE MINISTER OF TOURISM S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) during (MUFTI MOHD. SYED): (a) and (b) Yes, the year 1986, the services of Four Func- Sir, The Department of Tourism in colla- tional Directors in the Subsjdiary corpora- boration with Air India and ITDC has tions of National Textile Corporation were launched a scheme called ‘Affordable India' terminated prematurely. A statement showing to attract tourists from Europe during the the details of such premature terminations lean season. The schcme offered discounted is given below : Ill Written Answers NOVEMBER 14. 1986 Written Answers 112

Statement

S. No. Designation & Name of Subsidiary Remarks

1. Director (Technical). NTC (Gujarat) Term of appointment was due Ltd.. Ahmcdabad.. to expire on 26.9.1987,

Services terminated w.e.f.. 21.6.1986.

2. Director (Commercial). NTC (Gujarat) Term of appointment was due Limited, Ahmedabad. to expire on 9.2.1988. . j") Services terminated w.e.f. 21.6.1986.

3. Director (Personnel). NTC (WBABO) Term of appointment was due Limited. Calcutta. to expire on 29.4.1988.

Services terminated w.e.f. y 14.4.1986.

4. Director (Finance). NTC (WBABO) Term of appointment was due Limited, Calcutta. to expire on 10.8.1988.

Services terminated w.e.f. 14.4.1986. '

Opening of Bank Branches in Pathai>amthitta Strike by All India State Bank Officers' District, Kerala. Federation

' . 1718. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will 1719. SHRI A.J.V.B. MAHESHWARA the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to RAO : Will the Minister of FINANCE state : be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any demand for (a) the reasons for a day’s token strike opening more branches of nationalised by all India State Bank Officers' Federation banks in the Pathanamthitta district of on 18th September, 1986 ; and Kerala ; and (b) the details regarding the demand of (b) if .so, the number of new branches the All India *State Bank Officers’ Federa- opened during the last two years ? tion and the action taken by Government in the matter ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The All4 (b) During the two years 1984 and India State Bank Officers’ Federation had 1985, the scheduled commercial banks have gone a day's token strike on September 18, opened 7 new branches in Fathanamthitta 1986 to press for various demands raised District. by them before the management. 113 W ritten./.h s' ers KART1KA 23, 190S (SAKA) Written Answers 114

(b) The details of the Federation's de- 3. Arrears of pro\ ident fund contribu- mand are given in the statement below. tions revised in 1936 with retrospective State Bank c f India have informed that they effect from 1.7.1983 should carry interest had discussions with the lepresentatives of from month to month to which the the Federation and those demands which contribution relates were found reasonable have teen conceded. However, the Bank Officers’ Federation 4. The merit channel examination for insisted on a decision by tl.e State Bank promotion to MMGS II for the year 1985 Management on issues that hrd industry- should be abolished and all promotions wide remi cations and this was obviously should be made through the seniority not possible. channel alone. As the Bank had delayed the promotional process, employees should Statement be paid perquisites from back date. The Bank should hold merit channel examina- Details of demands of All India State tion for 1985 for those Junior Management Bank Officers' Federation regarding a day's Grade Scale I Officers, who were appointed token strike on September 18, 1986, as such from 1.10.1979 to 31.12.1979, i 1. The differential of Rs.5(>5/- should 5 (i) The two channel promotion policy be maintained between the pay of clerk and should be continued for the period 1986-90 officer : this amount is the officiating also ; 65% of the vacancies should be reserv- allowance, which a clerk draws while acting ed for these JMGS I officers who were in as officer for atleast one month. service before 1.10.1979 (other than erstwhile officers grade I). Further, adequate vacancies 2. (i) A clerk, who oillciates as an o.Ticer. should bo created to assure promotions to is required to refund the amount of oxidat- such officers. ing allowance, whenever he gets promoted as an officer from back date ; this reccury (ii) The weightage presently given for should be waived. passing the Associate Examination conducted by the Institute of Bankers Examination for (ii) Provident Fund contribution should promotion to MMGS III should be be calculated after notionally adding the abolished. officiating allowance of Rs.565/- payable to clerks in the officers’ pay. 6 (i) Officers, who arc posted to difficult areas, should be provided leased accommo- (iii) The ftment equation formulated dation at the place of their convenience to by the Indian Banks’ Association should be enable them to keep their families thereat stepped up by one or two stages. for ensuring proper education and medical facilities etc. ( iv) In State Bank of India, clerical employees who were at the maximum of clerical pay scale on or before 1.7.1983 (ii) Rental ceiling of leased houses (i.e. the date of implementation of the provided to officers at various centres should Fourth Bipartite settlement) have been be enhanced, as the existing ceilings had granted a Fixed Personal Allowance of become out of tune with prevailing rents. Rs.95/- or Rs. 190/-. Accordingly, all existing officers should also be given benefit of (iii) At all centres or atleast at district Rs.95/- or Rs. 190/- by way of additional head quarters, officers should be provided increment in the officers scale of pay. with the leased housing facility.

(v) As the salary scales of officers have 7. Transfers of officers should be res- been revised from 1.2.1984 and the salary tricted to within the State/Circle or module of w orkmen staff were revised from 1.7.1983, and the Bank should frame policy regarding the linkage in the fitment formula from one posting of officers at its Central Office in stage of clerical basic pay to the compara- Bombay, Inspection Department or in tive stage of officers’ basic pay was snapped foreign offices, in consultation with the during this period. This should be restored. Federation. 115 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 116

8. Direct recruitment should not be further computerisation without consulting resorted to in specialists appointment above the Federation. the JMGS I level and all such position, in higher grades should be ti lied through 16. The bank should abolish Simplified promotions. Accounting Procedure Branches and a committee be appointed to review the Bank’s 9 (i) Cases of officers are being p laced organisational structure, systems and pro- under the sealed covers only for the reason cedures, staffing activities etc, that investigation is pending. Further, cases of officers of Top Executive Grade scale 17. The revised pay scales of officers in VI and above are not placed under Sealed Senior Management Grades should be Cover. released.

(ii) Promotion letters of officers are 18. Without any corresponding com- being withheld by the Circle authorities pensation, higher responsibilities are on the plea that in the mean-time com- entrusted to officers by merely designating plaints has been received and investigation them as Assistant Accountants. This should had been ordered. Such a step is taken only be stopped. in cases of o'Ticcrs upto SMGS V and not above. Institutions Dealing with Hotel Management, Catering Technology 10. There is considerable delay in finalising disciplinary cases of officers : 1720. SHRI SHANTARAM NA1K : cases of officers placed under suspension are Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased not being reviewed periodically in violation to state : of the existing guidelines. (a) number of institutions dealing with 11. The existing guidelines for grant of Hotel Management, Catering Technology extension in service should be a reviewed. and Applied Nutrition functioning in the country ; 12. The provisions of paragraph 19 (3) of the State Bank of India Officers (Deter- (b) what are their present grades ; and mination of Terms and Conditions of Service) Order 1979 whereby services of (c) whether any of these institutions are officers are continued despite superannua- proposed to be upgraded ? tion/ceasing to be in service for purposes of disciplinary proceedings should be deleted : THE MINISTER OF TOURISM if the disciplinary proceedings are not (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) Twelve completed in three months, after an officer ' Institutes of Hotel Management, Catering ceases to be in the Bank's services, these Technology and Applied Nutrition and Ten should be deemed to have been abated. Foodcraft institutions are functioning at present. 13. Officers who had died in harness, have not been paid compensation and claims of dependants of such officers are (b) While the Institutes of Hotel declined arbitrarily. Management, Catering Technology and Applied Nutrition impart at the middle 14. There is acute shortage of staff at management/supervisory levels besides craft branches and officers are undergoing severe level, Foodcraft Institutes impart training at hardships on this account. The norms craft and skill level only. followed by the bank for assessing man- power requirements at various offices should (c) Yes, Sir. During Seventh Five Year be streamlined in consultation with the Plan, it is tentatively proposed to upgrade Federation. Five existing Foodcraft Institutes into Diploma awarding Institutes of Hotel 15. The bank should go slow with com- Management, Catering Technology and puterisation : it should not undertake Applied Nutrition. 117 Written Answer* KARTIKA 23. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers n g

[Translation] (c) Yes. Sir.

Raids during Later Half of October, 1986 (d) While affirming India’s willingness to support any constructive action which would 1721. SHRJ KALI PR AS A L) PANDEY: defuse tension and promote a viable political Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased solution, India abstained on the resolution to state : sponsored by ASEAN countries since the approach embodied in that resolution was (a) the details of the amount recovered not conducive to bringing about the desired as a result of the raids conducted throughout result, the country during the later ha Ii of October. 1986 and the particulars of the organiza- Recovery» of Loa is from November,’ 1984 tions and oilicers on whom these raids were Riot Victims conducted : and 1723. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA ; (b) the action taken so far against the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased persons/officers/firms raided ? to state :

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) whether it is a fact that November, THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1984 Riot Victims Association has represent- JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) ed to his Ministry (Banking Division) on 25 Information to the extent possible is being August, 1986, 9 September, 1986 and 27 collected and will be laid on the Table of September, 1986 requesting for deferring the House. recovery of bank loans till such time their cases for payment of compensation are [English] finally disposed of by Government as their India’s Call for Settlement on Kampuchean establishments were not insured ; and Problem at UN General Assembly (b) if so, the action taken by Govern- 1722. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY : ment in the matter ? SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN be pleased to state : THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) and (b) (a) whether India has called for a Yes, Sir. The said representations were negotiated settlement of the Kampuchean referred to Reserve Bank of India. Reserve problem at the U.N. General Assembly ; Bank of India have reported that it had already issued guidelines to banks for pro- (b) the names of countries which viding various credit facilities on conces- supported India's views ; sional terms to the affected persons for repairs/re-construction of their damaged (c; whether ASEAN Group of countries houses, oontinuing/re-establishing production, in their resolution to the UN General business and oncupation such as taxi, truck, Assembly called for the withdrawal of all auto-rickshaw and other small transport foreign lorces from Kampuchea ; and operators, small industrial units, retail trade, conversion and rescheduling of existing loans (d) whether India served a notice that it grant of fresh advances at concessional rate would abstain on the resolution and if so, of interest, waiver of margin requirement in the rej^ons thereof ? respect of advances upto Rs. 1 lakh, non- insistence of collateral security/third party THE’MINISTER OF STATE IN THE guarantee for loans upto Rs. 25,000/-, speedy MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS clearance of loan proposals, prompt dis- (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, bursement of loans etc. The above liberal Sir. facilities by banks have been provided as a very specia 1 case due to the extra-ordinary (b) A number of Government share our circumstances of November, 1984 distur- approach to this question. bances. 119 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 120

As regards insurance claims, the banks the Indian economy in 1986-87 could be have been advised to make need based credit expected to be better than in the previous requirements of the affected units without two years. taking into account the insurance claims expected to be received in case assets were Indians Deported Consequent on insured. However, the insurance claim Visa Introduction amounts, when received should be credited to the loan accounts of the borrower con- 1725. SHRI D1NESH GOSWAM1 : cerned. Reserve Bank of India have not Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS received any complaints or representations be pleased to state the number of Indians regarding harrassmem of riot victims by uho have been deported from U.K. conse- bank management. However, specific com- quent on the introduction of visa system by plaints, if any, could be taken up with the British Government ? concerned bank for remedial measures. Relief iii the repayment of bank loans can THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be considered on the merits of each indivi- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS dual case. (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : The infor- \ mation is being collected and will be placed Mid-T ei fii Review of Indian Economy by on the Table of the House as soon as Reserve Hank of India possible.

1724. SHRI -HARIHAR SOREN ; Loans to Companies who Failed to Deposit Will the Minister oi FINANCE be pleased Employees’ Share of Provident Fund to slate : 1726. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA ; (a) whether Government have made any SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : mid-term review of the performance of the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Indian economy in 1986-87 ; to state ;

(b) if so, the rate of growth in real (a) whether Government had issued any national income in agriculture and industry guidelines to the nationalised banks not to as per the review ; and advance loans to the companies which failed to deposit the employees' share of provident (c) the prospect of Indian economy in fund contribution ; and the above fields including the price situation in 1986-87 according to the review made by (b) if so, the number of the companies the Reserve Bank of India ? granted loans during 1984-85 in violation of the above directive ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE TN JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Govern- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ment keeps a close watch on the emerging JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) economic situation. However, no ‘mid- The Reserve Bank of India has advised term review' as such is undertaken. banks that particulars of outstanding dues relating to persistent defaulters received from (b) Growth in industrial production provident fund authorities should be kept in during April-July, 1986, as revealed by the view while considering the applications for average of index numbers of industrial pro- credit facilities. As regards sick units, in duction, is estimated at 5.4 per cent over the case where dues fell into arrears for reasons average index of the correspond ing 4 months beyond the control of the borrowers, banks of 1985. For agricultural sector, however, may consider individual cases on merits. it is too early to make any meaningful estimate for 1986-87 at this stage. The Reserve Bank of India has further reported that the matter about non-receipt (c) According to the Annual Report of of the'list of defaulters was brought to the the Reserve Bank of India for the year notice of the Central Provident Fund Com- ended 30th June, 1986, the performance of missioner, who has reiterated his instructions 121 Written Answers RARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

to the Regional Provident Fund Commis- Banks during 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86 sioner to furnish the list of defaulters lo the under IRDP were 2,49,259, 2,73,328 and banks in a regular manner. J,8! 726 respectively.

In the case of borrowers covered by Difficulties of Pub’ic Sector Units in Credit Authorisation Scheme, information Getting Import Licences regarding provident fund dues is required lo be included in 'Statutory Liabilities' to be 1729. SHRI PRAKASH V. PAT1L : shown in the data base prescribed for consi- Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased deration of applications by the Reserve Bank to state ; of India under the Credit Authorisation „ Schcme. (a) whether the attention of Government has been drawn lo the inordinate delay Boarding I odging Faciities at Agra, involved in getting import licences for the Fatchpur Sikri, A junta and Ellora components required ('or the Public Sector Undertaking projects which in turn results 1727. SHRI JANAk RAJ GUPTA : in delay in implementation of projects cost Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased escalation and other consequences ; to state : (b) whether Government have under- (a) whether Government propose to taken any indepth study of the entire system provide additional facilities for recreation, and procedures ; and boarding and lodging for tourists visiting Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Ajanta and Ellora , (c) if so, the results of such study and and action taken thereon ’

(b) if so, details thereof ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM DASMUNSI) : (a) No. Sir. (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) A scheme for constructing a travellers lodge (b) and (c) A Management Study Team with appropriate landscaping etc. is under under the Chairmanship of Commerce implementation at Fatehpur Sikri. - Apart Secretary has undertaken an indepth exami- from this, the Central Government has not nation of procedures and their report is received any proposal for additional facili- awaited. ties for recreation, boarding and lodging for tourists visiting Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Ajanta Outstanding Income Tax and W'ealth Tax and Ellora. against Central Ministers

Loans under IRDP in Andhra Pradesh 1730. SHRI RAM OHAN : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : 1728. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) The names of the Union Ministers to state : who have not tiled their returns during last three years ; and The total number of persons who have been given loans from nationalised banks (b) the amount of Income Tax and under IRDP during 1983*84, 1984-85, and Wealth Tax due from thc^g as on 31st 1985-86 in Andhra Pradesh, year-wise ? March, 1986

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : Reserve Bank JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) of India (RBI) have reported that the Having regard to the large number of number of families assisted in Andhra Ministers the information will have to be Pradesh by all scheduled commercial banks, gathered from the field formations spread Regional Rural Banks and Cooperative all over the country which will involve 123 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14. 1986 Written Answers 124 considerable time and effort. However, if (c) The Government has taken a series the information is desired about any parti- of measures to boost the exports of engineer- cular Minister, relating to the tax outstanding goods. It is expected that these steps will ing on a particular dat^, the same can be result in higher exports during the remaining collected and furnished. period of the current year.

Proposal for Extending Assistance to Hand- Indo-Soviet Trade Agreement loom Sector to Permit Rebate on Sa'es on Handloom in Tamil Nadu 1733. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to 1731. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI : Will state : the Ministei of TEXTILES be pleased to state : (a) whether an Indo-Soviet Trade agree- (a) whether there is any proposal for ment was signed in August 1986 ; and extending assistance to handloom sector to permit rebates on sales of handloom clothes (b) If so, the details thereof ? to make it popular and to increase its sales •in Tamil Nadu : and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (b) if so, the details thereof ? P.R. DASMUNS1) : (a) and (b) No Trade agreement has been signed recently between THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN India and the USSR for increasing coopera- THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI tion in the field of trade and economic S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) No, relations. However, a Trade Agreement w'as Sir. However, a scheme is already being signed between the two countries on implemented whereby special rebate upto 23.12.1985 extending the Rupee payment 20%, shared equally between Central and arrangement from 1st January, 1986 to State Governments, is allowed on the retail 31st December, 1990. The salient features of sales of handloom cloth for a period of 30 the Agreement are that payments for all days in a year as well as during the National commercial and non-commercial trans- Handloom Expos organised and other actions between the two countries are to be exhibitions approved by the office of the made in non-convertible Indian Rupees and Development Commissioner for Handlooms the Rupees are to be utilised by the Soviet authorities for purchases of Indian goods and Export of Engineering Goods services for export to the USSR. The trade is to be conducted as hitherto on a balancing 1732. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : basis over a period of time. The agreement Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased also provides for automatic renewal for sub- to state ; sequent periods of 5 years at a time unless either party gives a written notice to the (a) the expected quantum of export of other atleast six months iu advance of the engineering goods during the year 1986-87 ; dale of expiry of the Agreement of its intention to modify it. (b) the quantum of export of such goods since April till date this year ; and Discontinuance of Flights from Udaipur (c) the reasons for shortfall, if any ? to Ahmedabad

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1734. PROF. NARA1N CHAND THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI PARASHAR : Will the Minister of P. R. DASMUNS1) : (a) A target of Rs. TOURISM be pleased to state : 1750 crores has been fixed for the export of engineering goods during 1986-87. (a) whether the decision to discontinue (b) During the period April-Sep. 1986, the Indian Airlines flights from Udaipur to the provisionally estimated exports of Ahmedabad has adversely affected the pro- engineering goods are Rs.475 crores. spects of tourism in Rajasthan and G ujarat; 125 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) I Vrit ten A ns wers J 26

(b) if so, the reasons for discontinuing be pleased to stale : the flight ; and (a) number of passport applications (c) when it is proposed to be resumed pending on 1st January, 1985 and 1st for the promotion of tourism 7 January, 1986 in each passport office ;

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (b) number of passport applications (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) to (c) The received by each office during 1985 ; flight between Udaipur and Ahmedabad was discontinued in 1979 and at present there (c) number of passport applications is no proposal to resume it. The discontinu- disposed of by each office during 1985 ; ance of this flight is not adversely afiect tourism in Rajasthan and Gujarat. (d) the average time taken for the disposal of a passport application ; and Directives Regarding Sick Jute Mil's (c) the steps taken to reduce the process- 1735. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA ing time ? SINHA : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (a) whether Government have received (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) to (c) the details from the State of West Bengal Details are given in the Statement below : regarding sick jute mills in the State ; (d) 6 weeks, where passport applications (b) if so, the details thereof ; are complete and clear police reports have been received. (c) how many units have been identilied by the State which require immediate rehabilitation on the basis of Gujarat (e) Various steps taken to reduce the formula ; and processing time of Passport applications a re ;

(d) what further steps are being contem- (i) introduction of new comprehensive * plated in this regard ? and computer compatible passport application forms ; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. (ii) scrutiny of passport applications at KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) No, Sir. the time of presentation at the counter itself with a view to ensuring that the same is (b) Docs not arise. complete in all respects ;

(c).No communication has been received from the State Government of West Bengal (iii) introduction of Electronic Cash in this regard. Register Machines in 7 out of 20 Passport Offices ; (d) Does not arise. (iv) introduction of computers in the Pending Passport Applications Passport Offices at Delhi, Madras, Bombay and Cochin out of which the computers at 1736. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Delhi and Madras have started functioning Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS since September, 1986. 127 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 128

Statement

No. of No. of No. of No. of passport passport passport passport applications applications applications * applications pending on 1st pending on 1st received during disposed of S. No. Station January. 1985 January, 1986 1985 by each office during 1985

I. Ahmedabad 8,164 20,982 75,999 63.181 2 Bangalore 10,338 10.594 81.963 81,707 3. Bareilly 5,947 21,247 65,514 ‘ 50.214 4. Bhopal 1,830 3,206 16,566 15,190 5. Bhubaneswar 601 1,260 4,303 3.644 6. Bombay 26,154 11,614 2,48,126 2 62.666 7. Calcutta 3,795 10,642 41,349 34,502 8. Chandigarh 12,533 21,313 61,596 52,816-

9. Cochin 6.143 11,752 » 92,316 86,707 10. Delhi 8,816 ‘ 13,868 1.06,341 1.01,289 11. Guwahati 943 701 3,071 3,31? 12. Hyderabad 9.939 10.260 51,440 51,119 13. Jaipur 9,031 8,977 45,177 45,231 14. Jalandhar 16,094 25,499 56,986 47,581 15. Kozhikode 13,818 8,424 60,059 65,453 16. Lucknow 3,006 11,419 39,933 31,520 17. Madras 9,853 5,734 72,072 76,191 18. Patna 1,444 5,438 15,962 11,968 19. Srinagar 1,919 5,144 10,278 7,503 20. Tiruchirappalli 9,389 16,883 69,142 61,648 21. Vijayawada 1,256 4,084 14,249 11,421

Wholesale and Consumer Price Index April, 1st July and 1st October, 1986 ; and

1737. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : (d) steps, if any, taken by Government Wrtt the Minister of FINANCE be pleas- to control the rate of inflation. ed to state : * t ' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) the wholesale price index on the 1st THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI day of each quarter during the current JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) financial year and the corresponding fgure The required information is given in for the previous financial year ; statement be low.

(b) the All India Consumer Price (d) The thrust of the Govt’s anti-infla- Index on the 1st day of every quarter during tionary policy continues to be on effective the current financial year and the corres- demand and supply management including ponding figures for the previous financial strengthening of public distribution system, year ; regulated releases of sugar and edible oils, enforcement of discipline and moping up of (c) annual rates of inflation as measured excess liquidity in the system. The Central with reference to the two indices as on 1st Government has advised the State p9 W ritten Answerx KARTIKA 23. 1908 (SAKA) li r it ten Answers 130

Government to take, strict fiction against THE DEPITY MINISTER IN traders indulging in piol.iccring hoarding THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI and black marketing. S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) A statement is given below. Statement (b) Main importers of Indian raw jute Wholesale Price Index (1970-71 = 100) are* USSR and Poland. In 1985-86, U.K: also took a nominal quantity. 1986-87 1985-86 V. (c) There was no export of raw jute 5.4.1986 361.4 6.4.1985 348.5 from India in 1983-84 and 1984-85. 5.7,1986 377.7 6.7.1985 359.6 4.10.1986 3*3.4 (P) 5.10.1985 358.7 (d) India is not a regular supplier of raw jute in world market in view of its P-Provisional fluctuating production of raw jute. It is only in years of surplus, export of raw jute is All India consumer Price Index for allowed. However, some token exports of Industrial workers (I960 =100) raw jute are being made to East European 1986 1985 countries under annual Trade Plan provisions. March 638 586 Statement June 658 606 Quantum of world export of raw jute Septem- 676 619 including kenaf and allied fibres in 1983-84 ber and 1984-85 and respective share of major exporting countries, as reported in PAO’s Annual rate of inflation as on 1st April, Quarterly Statistics (September, 1986) were 1st. July and 1st October, 1986. as under WPi CPI 1983-84 1984-85 (1970-71 = H'0) (1960 = 100 5.4.1986 3.7% March’86 8.9% ( in thousand metric tons) WORLD 459.5 349.9 5.7.1986 5.0% Junc‘86 8.6% 4.10.1986 6.9% September'86 9.2% DEVELOPING 448.9 334.7

Export of Jute Latin America — Brazil ------1738. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : China 42.0 45.0 W ill the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased Far East '406.9 289.7 to state : Bangladesh 344.3 253.8 Burma — 2.0 (a) quantum of World export of raw India 0.1 — jute in 1983. 1984 and 1985 and the respec- Nepal 7.5 5.2 tive shaic of major expoi tir.g countries Thailand 48.0 21.7 therein ; Asia CPE 42.0 45.0 DEVELOPED 10.5 15.2 (b) names of main importers of Indian raw jute ; Western Europe 10.5 15.2

(c) India's average share over this period Proposal to Develop Daringibari in Orissa of the market of each major importing as Tourist Spot country ; and 1739. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL : (d) steps taken to promote India’s share Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased of world export of jute ? to state : 131 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answres 132

(a) whether Government have examined (a) whether the Finance corporate the proposal to develop Daringibari, a place management are free to keep their public of tourist interest located in Phulbani dis- issue collections in short-term deposits; trict, Orissa into a national tourist spot : (b) whether any directive has been (b) if so. the steps taken thereon ; and issued on this subject and if so, the broad outlines thereof; and (c) the details thereof (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYF.D) : (a) to (c) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Ministry of Tourism have not received any THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI proposal to develop Daringibari in Orissa JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) as a tourist spot in the State. In terms of the provisions contained in Section 73 (3) of the Companies Act, 1956, Indian Joint Ventures Abroad Set Up by al I moneys received on account of share Large Industrial Houses allotment are to be kept in a separate Bank Account to be maintained by the Company 1740. DR. B.L. SHA1LESH ; Will the with a Scheduled Bank until the permission Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to has been granted for the shares to be dealt state : with in a Stock Exchange, or, where an appeal has been filed against the refusal to (a) the particulars of the joint ventures grant such permission until the disposal of set up abroad by the first 10 large Industrial the appeal. On 30.10.86, the R.B.I. has Houses indicating their investment in the clarified to all scheduled banks that they form of equity, plant and machinery and should not agree to their clients’ requests terms of collaboration with foreign Govern- for transfer of share application moneys ment or companies ; received by them and kept in separate account to short term deposits and/or cash (b) the protits repatriated by these credit accounts. companies as per latest information available with Government ; Jugglery of Figures by New Companies

(c) the check being exercised over the 1742. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Will the misuse of foreign exchange earned by these Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : companies abroad ; (a) whether it is a fact that in a bid to (d) whether any manipulations or under- woo investors, some new companies going hand deals by any of these Industrial Houses public have started juggling figures relating in the misappropriation of foreign exchange to projections on capacity utilisation levels, have come to Government's notice recently ; turn-over and profitability, with the aim to and project a more cheerful picture of the company which is at variance with the projections that the Financial Institutions (e) if so, their broad particulars and the have made while sanctioning term loans to action taken in each case for any violations it ; and of the existing rules and regulations ?

(b) if so, steps Government propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN take to countenance such private jugglery THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI behind public issue promises ? P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) to (e) The information is being collected. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Public Issue Collections by Companies JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) The matters to be specified in the prospectus 1741. DR. B.L. SHA1LESH : Will the and reports set out therein are governed by Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : the provisions of the Companies Act, 1956. 133 Written Answers KARTIKA 23. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

T h e A c t also contains penal provisions for countries. However. India cannot remain mis-statements in the prospectus. Both civil immune to adverse externa 1 developments, and criminal liabilities accrue to persons particularly protectionism and the erosion specified in the Act in respect of such mis- of the rules and norms of the international statements, Government have also issued trading system. guidelines to the effect thai companies m a k in g public issues of capital should not Economic Cooperation bettveen depict at the time of their press conferences India and Zambia or at any other tiir.c too ic r /- a picture about the prospects of the company which 1744. SHRI M ATI J A Y A N T I is not contained in the prospectus. PATNAIK : Will the Minister of EXTER- NAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : North-South Gap (a) whether joint economic co-operation 1743. DR. B.L.SHAILESH ; Will the is proposed to be intensified between India Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be and Zambia ; pleased to state : (b) if so, the efforts made by both the (a) whether the North-South gap has countries in that direction ; widened further; (c) the areas of co-operation identified (b) if so. the reasons therefor ; and by India and Zambia ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL (SHRI EDUARDO FALERIO) : (a) In the AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): spirit of South South-cooperation Government (a) There has always been a substantia) gap has been endeavouring to step up coopera- between the income levels in the developed tion with African and other developing countries of the North and the developing countries. The Prime Minister visited countries of the South. During the global Zambia and ; economic crisis in the 1980s, many developing countries suffered declines in their income levels. This has tended to widen the (b) three other Frontline states in May this year when concrete steps in furthering gap. economic, technical and commercial coopera- (b) Large falls in commodity prices, tion with these countries were taken. In recession and growing protectionism in the response to an invitation extended to him by developed countries have sharply reduced the Prime Minister, the Prime Minister of the export earnings of developing countries. Zambia visited India from September 22 to Moreover, stagnation, and even declines, in October 1, 1986. concessional and other f nancial flows have aggravated their difl.cult foreign exchange (c) As a result of discussions during the situation. These adverse factors have result- Zambian Prime Minister’s visit, the two ed in a debt and development crisis in sides identified oil processing, fruit and many developing countries which has reduc- vegetable processing, bio-gas development, ed their income levels and living standards. (d) handloom weaving, leather goods (c) India has long followed a develop- production, manufacture and repair of agri- ment policy based on self-reliance. This cultural implements, metal fabrication, small policy and particularly the attainment of scale industries, development of irrigation food self-sufficiency, has served India well schemes, steel re-rolling, aluminium produc- and has enabled us to weather the recent tion etc. as possible areas of economic and crisis better than many other developing technical cooperation. 135 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 136

Cotton Cultivation in Orissa concerned State Governments/Corporations :

1745. SHRI MAT] J A V A N T 1 1. Gauhati (Assam) PATNA1K; Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : 2. Puri (Orissa)

(a) whether there is a possibility of 3. Ranchi (Madhya Pradesh) growing cotton in some areas of Orissa where cotton cultivation has not been 4. Bhopal started ; and (c) to (e) In collaboration with Orissa (b) if so, the efforts made by Union Tourism Development Corporation, iTDC Government in this regard ? is at present constructing a 3-Star Hotel at Puri (Orissa) with 44-rooms in Raj Bhavan THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Campus at an estimated cost of Rs. 190 MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. lakhs. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) There is a possibility of growing cotton in some Signing of Trade Agreement with areas of Orissa, where agroclimatic condi- North Korea tions are conducive for cotton cultivation. For raising the production of cotton in the 1747. SHR1MATI J A Y A N T I State, a Centrally Sponsored Intensive Cotton PATNAIK : Will the Minister of COM- Development Programme was in operation MERCE be pleased to state : during the Sixth Five Year Plan period. During 1985 86 an area of 2,000 ha. was (a) whether some bilateral trade agree- covered under this Scheme. ment has been signed between India and North Korea ; Construction of 3-Star Hotels in Orissa (b) if so, the areas wherein North Korea 1746. SH RIM ATI J A Y A N T I has shown interest ; and PATNAIK : Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : (c) the areas in which India proposes to establish its relations with North Korea ? (a) whether India Tourism Development Corporation has a proposal to construct THE MINISTER OF STATE JN THE some three-star hotels in the country during MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. the Seventh Plan ; DASMUNSI) : (a) Yes, Sir, r (b) if so, the number of such hotels i proposed to be constructed in different States (b) Some of the areas in which North during the above plan period ; Korea has shown export interest are machine tools, rail axles, rail wheels, cement, synthe- (c) whether any such hotels are proposed tic yarns, steel billets and zinc and its to be set up by ITDC in Orissa during that products. plan period ; > (c) India proposes to establish its rela- (d) if so, the site selected therefor ; and tions with North Korea through export of items such as iron ore, chrome ore, wheat, (e) the details thereof ? raw cotton, cotton fabrics, shellac, coffee and jute products. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) and (b) The Losses by Regional Rural Banks Seventh Plan does not envisage construction of any new hotels by JTDC. However, 1748. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY; under the joint venture scheme, the follow- SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH ing 3-star hotels are proposed to be cons- MALIK : Will the Minister of FINANCE tructed by ITDC in collaboration with the be pleased to state : 137 I Vri1 ten I nswers KARTIKA, 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

(a) the names of Regional Rural Banks which have wiped out their entire share ^r‘Name of the State/RRB NJ o capital and reserves and incurred losses; and *______

(b) the steps taken or proposed to be 9. Magadh Gr Bk iaken by Government in this regard ? 10. Kosi Ksh Gr Bk JI. Vaishali Ksh Gr Bk THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1 HE 12. Santhal Paiganas Gr Bk MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 13. Nalanda Gr Bk JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) The 14. Singhbhum Ksh Gr Bk Regional Rural Banks indicated in the 15. Mithila Ksh Gr Bk statement below have eroded their issued 16. Samastipur Ksh Gr Bk share capital and reserves due to continued 17. Ranchi Ksh Gr Bk losses. 18. Gopalganj Ksh Gr Bk 19. Saran Ksh Gr Bk (b) Pursuant to the recommendations made by the Working Group on Regional GUJARAT Rural Banks a number of steps are proposed V to be taken for improving the viability of 20. Jamnagar Gr Bk the Regional Rural Banks. These include 21. Kutch Gr Bk (i) release of additional share capital to 22. Banaskantha-Mehsana GB Regional Rural Banks with satisfactory track 23. Panchmahal Gr Bk record ; (ii) enlarging the scope of their lending by allowing them to lend to public HARYANA bodies/village Panchayats etc., (iii) lowering of interest rate on refinance provided to 24. Haryana Ksh Gr Bk Regional Rural Banks by the sponsoring 25. Gurgaon Gr Bk banks; and (iv) investment of their SLR refinance directly in Government securities HIMACHAL PRADESH with a view to obtaining better return. 26. Himachal Gr Bk Statement JAMMU & KASHMIR 27. Jammu Rural Bank Names of Regional Rural Banks which 28. Ellaquai Dchati Bank have eroded their capital and reserves (As on 31.12,85). KARNATAKA

29. Cauvery Gr Bk Sr. Name of the State/RRB 30. Krishna Gr Bk No. 31. Chitradurga Gr Bk 32. Kalpatharu Gr Bk ANDHRA PRADESH 33. Kolar Gr Bk 34. Bijapur Gr Bk 1. Nagarjuna Gr Bk 2. Rayalaseema Gr Bk MADHYA PRADESH 3. Sree Anantha Gr Bk 4. Shri Venkaseshwara Gr Bk 35. Kshetriya Gr Bk, Hoshangabad 5. Pinakini Gr Bk 36. Bilaspur-Raipur Ksh Gr Bk 37. Rewa-Sidhi Gr Bk ASSAM 38. Bundelkhand Ksh Gr Bk 39. Sharda Gr Bk 6. Lakhimi Gaonlia Bk 40. Surguja Ksh Gr Bk * 7. Langpi Dehangi Rural Bk 41. Bastar Ksh Gr Bk 42. Durg-Rajnandgaon Gr Bk BIHAR 43. Jhabua-Dhar Ksh Gr Bk 44. Raigarh Ksh Gr Bk 8. Champaran Ksh Gr Bk 45. Shivpuri-Guna Ksh Gr Bk 139 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers HO'

Sr. Name of the State/RRB Sr. Name of the State/RRB No. No.

46. Danioh-Panna-Sagar Ksh Gr Bk WEST BENGAL 47. Dewas-Shajapur Ksh Gr Bk 48. Nimar Ksh Gr Bk 85. Mallabhum Gr Bk 86. Mayurakshi Gr Bk MAHARASHTRA 87. Uttarbanga Ksh Gr Bk 88. Nadia Gr Bk 49. Marathwada Gr Bk 89. Sagar Gr Bk 50. Aurangabad-Jalna Gr Bk 90. Bardhaman Gr Bk 51. Chandrapur Gadchiroli Gr Bk MEGHALAYA MIZORAM 52. Ka Bank Nongkyndong Ri Khasi Jaintia Gr Bk 91. Mizoram Rura I Bank

ORISSA Note :

53. Puri Gr Bk Gr — Gramin 54. Bolangir Anch Gr Bk Bk — Bank 55. Kalahandi Anch Gr Bk Ksh —- Kshetriya 56. Baitarani Gr Bk Anch — Anchalik 57. Balasore Gr Bk 58. Rushikulya Gr Bk India's Offer on Agriculture Expertise to 59. Dhenkanal Gr Bk African Countries

RAJASTHAN 1749. SHRIMAT1 USHA CHOUDHARI : Will the Minister of 60. Marwar Gr Bk EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : 61. Shekhawati Gr Bk 62. Marudhar Ksh Gr Bk (a) whether during the Prime Minister’s- 63. A Iwar-Bharat pur Anch Gr Bk visit to Harare on the eve of the Non-align- 64. Aravali Ksh Gr Bk ed Movement Conference, expertise and 65. Hadoti Ksh Gr Bk experience of India in agriculture was 66. Thar Anch. Gr. Bk offered to African countries in achieving food seuf-sufficiency ; and UTTAR PRADESH (b) if so, the detai Is thereof ? 4>7. Hardoi Unnao Gr Bk THE MINISTER OF STATE IN #8. Kanpur Ksh Gr Bk THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL 69. Sravasthi Gr Bk AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : 10. Etavvah Ksh Gr Bk (a) and (b) India has offered cooperation 71. Kshetriya Kisan Gr Bk in the field of agriculture to African 72. Kashi Gr Bk countries during the Prime Minister's visit 73. Allahabad Ksh Gr Bk to Harare to attend the Non-aligned Move- 74. Pratapgarh Ksh Gr Bk ment Summit and in the course of bilateral 75. Faizabad Ksh Gr Bk discussions. Further exchanges will have to 76. Fatehpur Ksh Gr Bk take place with individual countries in 77. Bareilly Ksh Gr Bk order to work out the moda lities of such 78. Devipatan Ksh Gr Bk cooperation in each case. 79. Aligarh Ksh Gr Bk 80. Tulsi Gr Bk Regional Offices of DGS&D 81. Etah Gr Bk 82. Gomti Gr Bk 1750. PROF. K.V. THOMAS : Will the 83. Chhatrasal Gr Bk Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to 84. Rani-Lakshmi Bai Ksh Gr Bk state : Written Answers KARTjKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 142

(a) whether it is a fact that the regional organisation to undertake promotional offices of Directorate General of Supplies activity to boost the exports of electronic and Disposals are at present situated in goods and computer software. Metropolitan cities only ; (c) It is expected that the Council will (b) whether it is also a fact that indus- help in achieving significant increase in the trial units situated around these regional export of electronic goods and computer ■offices are only benefited ; and software.

(c) if so, whether Government are con- British Immigration Law sidering any proposals to start regional offices in all the States where there are no 1752. SHRI NITYANANDA M1SRA : regional offices at present ? Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether Government are aware that P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) No, Sir. The in a TV interview the British Home Secret Regional Offices of the DGS&D, covering tary is reported to have stated that Britain purchase & Inspection, are situated in vari- understood the concern felt in India about ous places all over India and not only in the activities of the Sikh extermists living Metropolitan cities. here

(b) No, Sir. The purchase policy and (b) whether Government propose to procedures followed in the DGS&D Hqrs. send legal experts to Britain to negotiate and its regional offices are the same. The the amendments that are likely to be made purchases are normally made through com- in the Immigration Law by Britain so that petitive bidding on all India basis. Even all forms of encouragements from the where the limited tender enquiry procedure British soil to Indian terrorists is ended ; is followed, the copies of tender are sent and to all the firms registered with the DGS&D Hqrs. as the registration is done only by (c) if so, the action taken in this regard the Hqrs. and British Government’s reaction thereto'?

(c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN « THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL Setting up of Electronic Export Promotion AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : Council (a) The British Home Secretary as well as other leaders of Br itain have expressed 1751. DR. G.S. RAJHANS : Will the U.K.’s understanding of the concern felt Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to in India about the activities of Sikh extre- state ; mists in U.K. However, unfortunately, this understanding has not yet been translated (a) whether there is a proposal under into concrete measures to curb such consideration of Government to set up an activities. Electronics Export Promotion Council ; (b) Government is not aware of any (b) if so, the purpose thereof; and such proposal to amend the U.K. Immigra- tion Law. (c) to what extent the export of electronic goods is likely to be boosted ? (e) Doe:> not arise.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN United Nations Assistance in Combating THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Drug Trafficking and Addiction P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. 1753. SHRI SODE KAMAIAH : The Electronics and Computer Software SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA : Will Export Promotion Council has been set up the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to with the purpose of providing an exclus ive state ; 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 144

(a) whether the United Nations has U.N.F.N Suggestions to Curb Trafficking in assured India of financial and technical Drug assistance in combating the spread of drug trafficking and addiction in the country ; 1755. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA : and SHRI S.M. GURRADI : SHRI B ANWAR I LAL (b) if so. the dctai Is thereof and PUROHIT : Government's reaction thereto ? SHRI AKHTAR HASAN : SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTRY 01 FINANCE (SHRI to state : JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Visit of the U.N. team to India from 13th (a) whether Government arc aware that to 17th October, 1986 was intended to the International Drug Enforcement increase cooperation between U.N. Fund Authorities have expressed a fear that India for Drug Abuse Control and Government of could soon become a base for major crime India and to, inter alia, explore the possi- syndicates unless ceaseless vigilance is main- bility of providing assistance to India's on- tained to curb the transit of hard drugs; going activities in the area of drug abuse prevention. Talks held with the Indian (b) if so. the suggestions made by the authorities concerned were of preliminary United Nations Fund for drug control; nature and no commitment was made by and the U.N. team with regard to nature or (c) which of these suggestions have- extent of assistance. been accepted and the steps taken in this regard ? Legal Reprieve Given to Defaulters of ICICI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 17 54. DR. CH1NTA MOHAN ; Will JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c> the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to The International Narcotics Control Board, state : in its report for 1985, has observed that, “situated as it is between major sources of illicit drugs, India has in recent years, be- (a) whether legal reprieve is proposed to come a transit country for the illicit traffic. be given to all defaulters of the Industrial Traffic in heroin and cannabis, originating Credit and Investment Corporation of India mainly in parts of the Near-and Middle (ICICI) as has been given to defaulting East, has increased over the last three years. shipping companies ; and Seizures also show that opium is illicitly trafficked, mainly internally. Cannabis, (b) if not. the reasons therefor ? reported to originate in Pakistan, Nepal and Afghanistan, is also trafficked through, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN India”. The Board has further gone on THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI record saying that, “the deep concern of the JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Government is reflected by the fact that the The Industrial Credit & Investment Corpo- drug situation and enforcement efforts arer ration of India (ICICI) has reported that continuously monitered by the Prime presently it has no proposal of providing Minister’s Office.” legal reprieve to defaulters. Each defaulting Company may have different reasons for not In addition to appropriate anti-smuggl- paying dues to lCICl in the scheduled ing measures taken in co-ordination with manner. The Corporation works out, on the Central and State Government authori- merits of each case, a programme for ties concerned, close co-operation with the recovery, or rehabilitation and clearance of international agencies concerned and also dues. with the drug law enforcement agencies of 145 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers

U.S.A., U.K., etc. is maintained to curb Indore smuggling of drugs. The intelligence Jabalpur machinary has been geared up and the field Jaipur formations remain vigilant to check the Jammu smuggling of drugs. The Narcotic Drugs Jodhpur Psychotropic substances Act, 1985, which has Jorhat come into force with effect from 14.11*1985, Kanpur provides for deterrent punishments for drug Keshod trafficking offences. A new organisation Khajuraho called, “Narcotics Control Bureau” has Leh been set up for effectively co-ordinating the Lilabari action against illicit traffic in drugs. Lucknow Madurai Tourist Places with Direct Airlines Mangalore Madras 1756. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : Nagpur SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH Nasik MALIK : Patna SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : Porbandar Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased Portblair to state : the names of tourist places and Pune cities having direct airlink ? Raipur Rajkot THE MINISTER OF TOURISM Ranchi (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; A statement Silchar listing the places airlinked by Air India, Srinagar Indian Airlines.and Vayudoot flights is given Tezpur below. Tezu Tiruchirapally Statement Tirupati Trivandrum (A) List of Places Airlinked by Indian Airlines Udaipur Vadodara Agra Varanasi Ahmedabad Vijayawada Allahabad Vishakhpatnam Amritsar Agartala Aurangabad Jamnagar Bagdogra Bhopal Bangalore Bhubaneshwar Belgaum Bhavnagar (B) List of Places Airlinked by Air India Bhuj Bombay Delhi Calcutta Bombay Chandigarh Calcutta Cochin Madras Coimbatore Hyderabad Dabolim (Goa) Trivandrum Delhi Dabolim (Goa) Dibrugarh Dimapur (C) List of Places Airlinked by Vayudoot Guwahati Gorakhpur Delhi Gwalior Ludhiana Hyderabad Chandigarh Imphal Dehradun 147 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 148

Pantnagar Daman Kanpur Rai Bareli Export of Cotton Kulu Kota 1757. SHRI RANJ1T SINGH Jaipur GAEKWAD : Will the Minister of Bikaner TEXTILES be pleased to state : . Jaisalmer Jodhpur (a) whether Government propose to Guna evolve a comprehensive policy of cotton for Gwalior 1986-87 cotton season in view of entire Agra problems related to prices, import and Hissar export of cotton and also in view of demand A llahabad for better hike of prices of cotton ; Gorakhpur Lucknow (b) whether various peasants organisa- Bhopal tions and cotton cooperatives are not getting Varanasi adequate prices of cotton ; Hyderabad Rajamundry (c) whether they are also demanding an Cuddapah increase in the export of cotton ; and Tirupati Warrangal (d) if so, whether Government propose Mysore to take comprehensive view of the entire Bangalore problem and take certain decision in this Vishakhapatnam regard ? Bellary Calcutta THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Cooch Behar MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. Jamshedpur KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Government have Ranchi already announced a long term policy on Rourkela export of cotton, under which 5.00 lakh Bhubneshwar bales of long/extra long staple cotton and Shillong 50,000 bales each of Digvijay cotton and Guwahati Bengal Deshi cotton will be exported per Silchar year on a continuous basis for 3 years Dibrugarh beginning with the cotton year 1986-87. Patna Passight (b) No, Sir. Zero Lilabari (c) and (d) Considering increased pro- Aizwal duction of cotton in the country the Kamalpur Government have announced a long term Kailashahar export policy on cotton, fixed the minimum Agar tala support prices for the year 1986-87 at a Imphal higher level than during last year and Dimapur directed Cotton Corporation of India to Bombay purchase on support prices. Ratnagiri Rise in Consumer Price Index Aurangabad Nanded 1758. DR. DATTA SAM ANT : Will Kandla the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Surat state ; Bhavnagar Indore (a) the percentage rise of Consumer Pune Price Index for the year 1984-85 and Goa (Dabolim) 1985-86 ; and 149 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 15#

(b) the reasons for increase in Consumer tive but to close down those textile units Price Index in the year J985-86 ? which have no expectation of becoming viable in a reasonable period of time also THE MINISTER OF STATE IN stresses that the interest of labour in the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI event of permanent closure of such units JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Consumer would be fully safeguarded. The Rehabili- Price Index rose by 8.9 per cent in 1985-86 tation Fund Scheme has been set up to (March over March) and by 5.0 per cent in assist such workers. 1984-85. The primary purpose of the Rehabilita- (b) Movements in the Consumer Price tion Fund provides interim relief to workers Index are the cumulative result of a variety rendered unemployed as a consequence of of factors affecting the demand and supply permanent closure of textile units. While position of items of consumption, weighted alternative employment in the textile sector according to their value in the consumption and concessional finance for self employ- basket. In 1985-86, consumer prices of food ment/employment may provide relief to some items such as cereals, fruits & vegetables, of them, there would still be a large number meat, fish and eggs which have a substantial of workers who may not be able to get weight in the index had shown an increase. succour through these measures. Such persons would need a period of transitional Scheme to Compensate Jobless adjustment to enable them to settle in Textile Workers another employment. 1759. DR. DATTA SAM ANT : SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA : ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUND ; Wi 11 the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : The fund is administered by the Textile m Commissioner through his regional offices. (a) whether Government have drawn up a scheme for giving compensation to textile workers who are rendered jobless because A CLOSED TEXTILE UNIT IS ONE of closure of mills ; THAT IS :

(b) if so, details thereof; and (a) a unit licensed or registered under (c) number of textile workers in the the Industries (Development & Regulation) country to be benefited by this scheme and Act, 1951 or with the Textile Commissioner what is the total amount that will be as a medium scale unit on the day of its reimbursed to them ? closure ;

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) it has obtained the requisite permis- MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. sion for closure from the appropriate State KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. Government under section 25(D) of the (b) A statement giving guidelines of the Industrial Disputes Act, 1947 ; Scheme is given below. (c) the unit was closed down on or after (c) It is not possible to indicate precisely 6th June, 1985. the number of workers to be benefited and the total amount to be reimbursed to them since these will depend on the closure of ELIGIBILITY : mills from time to time as per the scheme. Any worker who has been engaged in a Statement closed textile unit on the date of its closure continuously for five years or more and Textile Workers’ Rehabilitation earning a wage equivalent of Rs. 1600 per Fund Scheme month or less and having been on the INTRODUCTION records of the Regional Provident Fund The Textile Policy of June 1985 while Commissioner of the State concerned is laying down that there may be no alterna- entitled to get relief under this Scheme. 151 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written A nswers 152

DATE FROM WHICH THE SCHEME the Textiie Commissioner to the manage- COMES INTO OPERATION ment of the unit for being placed on the mill’s Notice Board, to the Unions active in The Scheme will come into force from the mill and to the bank branch concerned. 15th September 1986. Affected workers of sick textile units which fall w ithin the above PERIOD AND QUANTUM OF RELIEF : definition, would be eligible for assistance under the Scheme. Relief under the Scheme is available only for three years on a tapering basis but VERIFICATION OF ELIGIBLE WORKERS; will not extend beyond the date of superannuation of any worker. The worker is (a) Textile units whose Provident Fund is entitled to get relief: administered directly by the Provident Fund Commissi oner (i) to the extent of 75% of 'the wage equivalent in the first year of the closure of At the time the management of a sick the unit ; textile unit applies for closure under section 25(0) of the Industrial Disputes Act. 1947, (ii) to the extent of 50% of the wage the State Government concerned will call equivalent in the second year ; and from it a list of such workers as can be covered under the provisions of the S3heme (iii) to the extent of 25% of the wage and the details of the wages they were draw- equivalent in the third year. ing on the date of closure. On receiving the list, the State Government will forward GENERAL ; it to the Regional Provident Fund Com- missioner who will then verify the details Assistance under the Scheme will be with his own records and thereafter send it payable to eligible workers only for the to the Textile Commissioner. purpose of enabling them to settle in another (b) Exempted units : employment. Such assistance will not be heritable, transferable or capable of being In the case of units under the direct attached on account of any other liabilities control of the Board of Trustees viz. of the worker. The worker’s eligibility exempted units for purposes of administra- shall cease if he takes up employment in tion of Provident Fund, the State Govern- another registered or licensed undertaking. ment will forward the list of workers for The rehabilitation assistance will not be verification as regards period of service and curtailed if the worker fixes himself in a self wages last drawn to the Board which will employment venture. then send it to the Textile Commissioner. Closure of Textile Mills In both the cases, the Textile Commis- sioner on receipt of such a list will transfer 1760. DR. DATTA SAMANT : Will in a lump sum the amount due to such the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to workers to the branch of a nationalised bank state : operating in the area where the affected unit is located. Each worker will have to open (a) the number of textile mills in the a bank account in this branch and the sum country lying closed without permission of transferred by the Textile Commissioner Governme.it under Section 25 (0) of the will be credited to each worker’s account by Industrial Disputes Act, 1947 ; the branch itself. In case a worker moves out of the areas where the closed mill is located, he can ask the bank branch to (b) the names of these mills and number transfer the amount due to him to a bank of workers rendered unemployed as resHlt situated wherever he may be residing. thereof;

Verified lists of workers eligible for (c) the action taken against these mill assistance under the Scheme will be sent by owners by Government; and J53 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

(d) the amount of compensation the Publicity of Material for Promotion of textiles workers are going to receive from Tourism in Andhra Pradesh the Textile Workers’ Rehabilitation Fund ? 1762. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN REDDY : Will the Minister of TOURISM THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI be pleased to state : S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Information i about the closure of textiles mills that (a) whether Union Government have closed without permission of State Govern- ' prepared any publicity material for pro- ment concerned under Section 25 (0) of the motion of Tourism in Andhra Pradesh ; Industrial Disputes Act, 1947 is not at and present being maintained by the Union Goverument. (b) whether any effort has been made to publicize this tourist materia] in foreign (b) and (c) Do not arise in view of (a) countries also ? above. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (d) It is not possible to indicate (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) and (b) The precisely the number of workers who will Ministry of Tourism produces publicity be benefited and the total amount which literature, films and audio-visuals covering wi 11 be reimbursed to them since these will tourist destinations all over the country depend on the closure of mills from time to including those in Andhra Pradesh. This time as per the Scheme. material is distributed to our offices in India & abroad. Under the Print Production Inclusion of New Items in List of Export Programme for 1986-87 a Folder & directory Products is under production on Hyderabad & Tirupati. A special Advertisement featuring 1761. DR. CH1NTA MOHAN ; Hyderabad appeared in all major regional SHRI MAN1K REDDY : Will language journals as a part of the Depatt- the M inister of COMMERCE be pleased to ment’s recently launched Domestic Tourism campaign in March 1986. state :

Supreme Court Judgement on Rule 31V (a) whether recently some new items of ITDC have been included in the list of export products; 1763. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY : Will the Minister of TOURISM (b) if so, what are these items ; and be pleased to state ;

(c) whether this step has resulted in (a) whether the Supreme Court by its short supply of items for common man and judgement delivered on 30 September, 1986 if so, whether it is proposed to review the has struck down rule 31V of the India list ? Tourism Development Corporation (ITDC) as arbitrary and unconstitutional ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN i THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (b) if so, further action proposed in this P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) A few items have regard ? been brought under Export Trade Control. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (b) Gum Karaya, Rice Bran Oil, Solvent (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) Yes, Sir. Extractions not specified elsewhere, Mango Kernel Oil, Kokum Oil, Mahua Oil, Dhupa (b) In the light of the Supreme Court Oil, and Neemseed Oil. judgement, necessary action has been initiated by ITDC for suitably amending the (c) These items are not for consump- provisions of Rule 31 (v) of the ITDC tion by common man. Conduct, Discipline & Appeal Rules. 1978. 155 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers

World Bank’s Views on India’s Export span across the aieas of fiscal policy, Performance industrial policy and import policy. The decisions among others, include extension 1764. DR. G.S. RAJHANS : of the facility of supply of raw materials at SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD ; international prices to all major export Will the Minister of COMMERCE be sectors where raw materials are used for pleased to state : export production, on the lines of the facilities already applicable to iron and steel, stee! (a) whether the World Bank has recently alloys, aluminium and aluminium-based expressed its disappointment at India's industries ; allowing imports of capital export performance as reported in the goods for export production in respect of the Indian Express of 22 September, 1986 ; identified thrust industries as has already been done in case of leather goods, diamond (b) if so, the reaction of Government cutting and polishine tools and selected thereto ; and equipments for marine products ; full remis- sion of excise duties and domestic taxes on (c) the steps Government propose to exported goods ; to allow manufacture of boost the exports ? selected goods which have good export possibilities provided the firms are willing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN to export 60% of their production ; liberal THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI approach for constant upgradation of P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) The extracts from technologies in the key sectors particularly the World Bank Annual Report 1986 relat- engineering goods, which can be linked to ing to India’s export performance are/as export obligation etc. follows : “Early estimates, suggesting that the growth in the doller value of exports Exports by Big Business Houses during fiscal year 1986 was considerably less than the rate of growth of imports, are 1765. SHRI BANWARI LAL disappointing, as the seventh plan calls for PUROHIT : Will the Minister of COM- distinctly faster rates of export growth than MERCE be pleased to state : in previous years. This export performance reflects both increased competition in export (a) whether Government are satisfied markets, as well as the fact that it takes with the performance of big business houses time for polic ies to affects noticeably the in the matter of exports ; profitability of exports relative to domestic sales.” (b) if not, the reasons therefor ;

(b) Apart from the international factors (c) the details of business houses export- the decline in the overall exports during ing Indian made items to other, countries ; 1985-86 is attributable partly to the fact and that the exports of crude oil, which had reached a peak level of Rs.1563 Crores (d) the steps Government propose to during 1984-85, have virtually stopped after take to see that big business houses improve April, 1985 due to the development of their export performance ? domestic refining capacity. The export of crude oil during 1985*86 was only Rs.135.15 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE crores. However, the provisional data reveal- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. ed that the non-oil exports in rupee terms, DASMUNSI) : (a) to (d) It is felt that as a have registered a growth rate of 5.6 per group, the larger firms and business houses cent. It is also worth mentioning that India’s have more potential for export which exports during the first Quarter of the remains unrealised. current financial year April-June, 1986 have shown a distinct improvement. Data are not collected of exports by business houses separately. A number of (c) The Government had recently measures have been taken in the field of announced a series of major decisions for fiscal policy, industrial policy and import- boosting exports in selected sectors. These export policy which would encourage inter ]57 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

alia larger houses to export. These include, (d) the names of Indian companies among others, the set off of a percentage of which have got long term credit either net f.o.b. value of exports allowed for directly from the International Finance incceme tax purposes, raising of limit from Corporation or through the ICICI ; and Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 100 crores for large housis under the MRTP Act, expansion of (e) the steps proposed to ensure that the 1st of industries of Appendix I to the credits are utilised more by Government Press Note of February 2, 1973, for invest- sector ? ments by MRTP/FERA companies and the decision that export production will be kept THE MINISTER OF STATE IN outside the licensed capacity. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a), (d) and International Finance Corporation (e) International Finance Corporation, an Investment in India affiliate of World Bank, extends assistance by way of equity investments and loans to private/joint sector enterprises without 1766. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA ■SINHA : Will the Minister of FINANCE Government guarantee. The total investments approved by IFC(W) since 1959 in 43 be pleased to state : Indian companies amounts to US $ 397.51 million. A statement indicating IFC (a) whether the International Financc investments/commitments in various Indian Corporation a World Bank affiliate, has companies is given below. recently indicated for doubling up its investment in India from about its total six per The IFC(W)'s annual investment in Tndia cent commitment; has increased from Dollar 47.99 million in FY 1984 to Dollar 61.82 million in FY 1986 (b) whether International Finance Cor- and is cxpccted to go upto Dollar 100 poration has evolved a four-point programme million per annum from FY 1987 onwards, for India and has sought Government of India’s approval ; (b) No, Sir.

Statement

IFC’s Investments/Commitments in Indian Projects

(Amount S m.)

S. Fiscal Name of the Company Project Original Investment No. Year Equity Loan Total

1 5 6 7

1. 1959* Republic Forge Co. Ltd. Steel — 1.5 1.5

2. 1959* Kirloskar Oil Engines Diesel — 0.8 0.8 2.3 Engines

3. 1960 * Assam Sillimantie Ltd. Refractory 1.4 1.4 1.4 Bricks

4. 1961 K.S.B. Pumps Ltd. Pumps — 0.2 0.2 0.2

5. 1963) Precision Bearings Bearings 0.4 0.6 LO 1.0 1966) India Ltd. 159 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 160

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

6. 1964 Fort Gloster Transmission 0.4 0.8 1.2

7. 1964) Mahindra Ugine Steel Steel 1.3 11.8 13.1 1975) Co. Ltd. 1978) f

8. 1964 Lakshmi Machine Works Textile 0.3 1.0 1.3 15.6 Ltd. Machinery

9. 1967 Jayshree Chemicals Ltd. Chemicals 0.1 1.1 1.2

10. 1967 Indian Explosive Fertilizers 2.9 8.6 11.5 12.7

11. 1969) Zuari Agro Chemicals Ltd. -do- 3.8 15.1 18.9 18.9 1970) 1 12. 1976 Escorts Ltd. Engine Parts — 6.6 6.6 6.6 0

13. 1978 Housing Development Capital 1.2 4.0 5.2 5.2 Finance Corporation Market

14. 1980 Deepak Fertilizers and Chemicals a 7.5 8.7 8.7 Petrochemicals Corp. Ltd.

15. 1981 Tata Iron and Steel Co. Ltd. Steel — 38.0 38.8

16. 1981 Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. Motor — 15.0 15.0 Vehicles

17. 1981 Nagarjuna Steels Ltd. Steel 0.2 2.9 3.1

18. 1981 Nagarjuna Singnode Ltd. Steel —. 2.3 2.3

19. 1981 Nagarjuna Coated Tubes Ltd. Steel 0.3 1.5 1.8

20. 1981 Coromandel Fertilizers Ltd. Cement — 15.9 15.9 76.1

21. 1982 Ashok Leyland Motor — 28.0 28.0 Vehicles

22. 1982* Bombay Dyeing Petrochemicals — • 18.8 18.8

23. 1982 Indian Rayon Cement — 8.3 « * 8.3

24. 1982 Bharat Forge Iron & Steel — 15.8 15.8

25. 1982 Modi Cement Cement — 16.3 16.3 87.2

26. 1983 Indian Equipment Leasing Lease 0.47 5.0 5.47 Finance 161 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 *

27. 1983 Leasing Corporation Lease 0.46 • 5.0 5.46 10.93 of India Finance

28. 1984 Gwalior Rayon (Phase*I) Cement — 4.3 4.3

29. 1984 Bihar Sponge Iron S teel 0.95 10.78 11.73

30. 1984 Bajaj Auto Ltd. Auto — 22.00 22.00 Vehicles

31. 1984 Gwalior Rayon Cement —■ 9.96 9.96 47.99 (Phase-II)

32. 1985 Lease Development Lease 0.40 5.00 5.40 > India Ltd. Finance

33.1985 ' Larsen & Toubro Cement/ — 13.45 13.45 Heavy Engg.

34. 1985 Bajaj Tempo Light Commer- — 15.62 15.62 cial Vehicles

35. 1985 Gujarat Rural Housing Housing 0.20 — 0.20 34.67 Dev. Corporation Finance

36. 1986 Escorts Two Wheelers — 6.0 6.0

37. 1986 Hero Honda -do- 6.8 6.8

38. 1986 Great Eastern Shipping Fleet Moderni- 2.0 8.0 10.0 sation

39. 1986 T1SCO Sinter Plant 10.0 10.0

40. 1986 Exim Bank Agency line of 15.0 15.0 Credit

41. 1986 Gujarat Fusion Glass Ltd. Sheet Glass 1.8 • 7.52 9.32 (M/s. Window Glass Ltd.)

42. 1986 M/s. Wimco Ltd. Food Processing 4.7 4.7 61.82 Operation Programme

43. 1987 Indian Rayon Carbon Black 6.2 6.2 ’ Project

Total : 18.38 379.13 397.51

*The loans to Republic Forge Co. Ltd. Kirloskar Oil Engines and Bombay Dyeing wen? cancelled by the borrowers before they became effective. 163 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Wr it ten A nswers \ 64

Balance Sheet of Banks (a) whether some officers of the Punjab » and Sind Bank have submitted a memoran- 1767. SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA : Will dum highlighting corrupt practices of certain the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to bank executives ; and state :

(a) whether the Reserve Bank of India (b) if so, the details thereof and the had two years back appointed a Committee action taken, if any, thereon ? . to go into the question of the desirability of full disclosure and revising the format of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN balance sheet of banks prescribed under the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI statute 35 years back ; JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) A Memorandum containing various allega- (b) if so, the details thereof ; and tions against the functioning of Punjab & (c) reasons for the delay in submitting Sind Bank has been received from the All- the report ? India Punjab & Sind Bank Officers Federa- tion. Amongst other things, it contains THE MINISTER OF STATE IN allegation against an Assistant General THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Manager of the Bank regarding his alleged JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c) involvement in the grant of fictitious truck Reserve Bank of India had constituted a advances. Following investigation by CBI, Committee in March, 1982 under the the Bank has initiated departmental pro- Chairmanship of its Deputy Governor, Shri ceeding against the said Assistant General A. Ghosh (i) to examine the question of Manager by serving a charge-sheet on him. banks moving towards greater/full disclosure Reserve Bank of India has been asked to in the published accounts ; (ii) to suggest look into the other allegations. changes/amendments in the formats of Annual Accounts of banks as also standard Consumption of Short, Medium and Long accounting concepts which could facilitate Staple Cotton uniform, comparable presentat ion of various items in the published accounts ; (iii) to 1769. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : Will consider the question of evolving suitable the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to norms for creating provisions for various state : purposes, etc. The Committee has submitted its report to Reserve Bank of India in April, (a) what was the consumption of short 1985. Reserve Bank of India has accepted staple, medium staple and long staple cotton the major recommendations of the Commit- by textile industry during the last three tee with some modifications. These have years, year-wise ; been endorsed by Government.

Reserve Bank of India has also reported (b) the total production of the above that there has been some delay in the three varieties of cotton ; and finalisation of the Report by the Committee because the matter being sensitive, the (c) the requirement of cotton per year Committee had to make a thorough and after the introduction of the New Textile Policy ? detailed study of the practices prevailing in this country and other countries and was also required to discuss the various implica- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN tions of the modifications needed with the THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI various Banking Institutions and other S. KRISHNA KUMAR) ; (a) and (b) The important agencies. production and consumption of short, medium and long staple cotton by textile Alleged Corrupt Practices in Punjab and industry during the last three years is as Sind Bank follows :

1768. SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA : SHR1MATI GEETA MUKHER- JEE : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : 165 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

(IN LAKH BALES)

Year Short Staple Medium Staple Long Staple

Produc- Consump- Produc- Consump- Produc- Consum tion. tion. tion. tion. tion. tion.

1983-84 4.63 2.52 32.25 38.39 38.28 39.15

1984-85 6.25 2.73 43.55 41.48 51.70 42.30

1985-86 6.59 2.90 45.91 44.11 54.50 44.99

(c) The domestic requirement of cotton Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be during 1985-86 was 97.10 lakh bales. The pleased to state : domestic requirement of cotton for 1986-87 is estimated to be 99.5o lakh bales. (a) the number of fishermen of India who have lost their lives on account of Study Team on Textile Industry Problems shooting by Srilankan Naval Forces during the past three years ; 1770. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to (b) the number of fishermen of India state : who have been abducted by Sri Lankan naval vessels during the period ; and (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ment have appointed a study team to go (c) the steps being taken to protect the into the problems of the text ile industry, lives of Indian fishermen in our Exclusive specially of the mi 11s which have fallen Economic Zone ? sick ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, when the report of the team THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL is expected ? AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (a) and (b) According to available infor- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN mation the number of Indian fishermen THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI arrested and released and the number of S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) A those killed by Sri Lankan Naval personnel nodal agency as envisaged in the new Textile during the last three years is as under ; Policy of June, 1985 has been set up by the Government on 14.1.1986. The Nodal Year Arrested/ Killed Agency examines the viability studies carried Released out by all India Financial Institut ions/lRBI, evolves and manages the appropriate rehabi- 1983 50/50 Nil litation packages in respect of sick but 1984 131 1 potentially viable textile mills. It monitors the financial and technical performance of 1985 3 5 the units in respect of which rehabilitation 1986 H . 11 package is to be administered. The Nodal Agency has so far examined the cases of 72 sick and closed mills in seven States and No case of abduction has been this is an ongoing process. reported to Government.

Killing of Indian Fishermen by Srilankan (c) The Coast Guard is making special Naval Forces efforts to deploy all available Coast Guard ships and Aircrafts in our Exclusive Economic 1771. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : Zone to ensure that interests and lives of SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the our fishermen are protected. 167 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 168

Talks with China o i Border Dispute Tea Export

1772. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : 1774. SHRI YASHWANTRAO SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- GADAKH PATIL : CHANDRAN : W ill the Minister PROF. CHANDRA BHANU of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to DEVI : Will the Minister of state : COMMERCE be pleased to state ;

(a) whether the proposal" of Govern- (a) the exports of tea during 1985-86 ment to initiate talks with China on the and 1986-87 as against the targets thereof ; border disputes in the eastern sector has evoked any response from China ; and (b) the reasons for shortfall in export targets ; (b) if so, when the talks are to take place ? (c) the measures being taken to boost export of tea; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL (d) whether any measures arc proposed AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : to be taken to increase exports by promoting (a) and (b) There is no proposal to initiate value added tea ? fresh talks with China in the Eastern sector. The boundary issue including that in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Eastern sector is being discussed at official MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI level talks between the two Governments of P. R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) Exports which seven rounds have so far been held. of tea during 1985-86 were 222.92 mi!liont Kgs. as against the target of 220 million Kgs Permission to South African Delegates to During 1986-87 (April-September) exports Attend International Conference of are provisionally placed at 79.79 million Kgs. Ophthalmic Experts valued at Rs. 240.47 crores, as against 72.63 MKgs. valued at Rs. 233.36 crores during 1773. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- the corresponding period last year. No JEE : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL export and target for 1986-87 has been AFFAIRS be pleased to state : announced.

(a) whether he has been approached by (c) and (d) Measures taken in the recent the National Society for Prevention of past to increase exports of tea include Blindness (NSPB) to obtain permission for higher cash compensatory support on value the South African delegates to attend a six added teas, excise rebate of 50 paise per Kg. day international conference of the ophthal- on export of bulk tea, full rebate of excise mic experts proposed to be held in New duty on exports of packet teas, exemption of Delhi in December this year ; and excise duty on tea bags, exemption of customs duty on filter paper used in (b) if so, the details and Union Govern- manufacture of tea bags etc. ment’s decision thereon 7 [Translation] ' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Entry Fee or *Appu Ghar' THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : 1775. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DEVI; (a) and (b) -The National Society for the Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Prevention of Blindness did approach us please to state : initially for permission to invite delegates from South Africa for the Third General (a) the entry fee and charge for parti- Assembly of the International Agency for cipation in various stands in “Appughar” the Prevention of Blindness due to be held at Pragati Maidan in Delhi ; in New Delhi from December 6-11, 1986, but, subsequently of their own withdrew the (b) the details of the income from request. “Appughar” during the last one year ; and ■j 69 Written A ns wers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Wr it ten A ns wers j 70

(c) whether Government' propose to Trade Fairs Organised by Trade Fair •consider the question of reducing entry fee Authority of India so that low income group people may also «njoy these sports ? 1776. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DEVI : Will the Minister of COMMERCE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) The fee for entry into (a) the number of fairs organised by “Appu Ghar” is Rs. 2. 50 for adults and Trade Fair Authority of India during the Rs. 1.25 for children which is inclusive of last three years ; and Rs. 0.50 and 0.25 respectively on account * of entertainment tax. The rates for various (b) the profit earned and loss suffered rides in Appu Ghar are indicated in the as a result of organising these fairs ? statement below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The income from Appu Ghar during ' MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. the financial year 1985-86 is estimated at DASMUNSI) : (a) The Trade fair Autho- Rs. 32.07 lakhs. rity of India organised participation in the following fairs abroad and in India during (c) There is no such proposal under the last 3 years : consideration. Fairs abroad Statement 1983-84 42

S. Name of the rides Rate 1984-85 37 No. (Rs.) 1985-86 38

1. Appu Merry-go-round 1.25 Fairs in India • i i Bruco-Baby-Train 1.25 1983-84 5 ' 3. Mini enterprise 2.50 1984-85 4 4. Mini flight 2.50 1985-86 7

5. Coin operated Baby fgurcs 1.25 (b) The Trade Fair Authority of India 6. Roer coaster 3.75 does not organise fairs with a profit-motive since this activity is promotional in nature. 7. Striking cars 3.75 However, the overall excess of income over expenditure of the Authority during the 8. Telecombat 3.75 last three years is given below : 9. Cinema 2000 3.75 (Rs. in lakhs) 3.75 10. Shooting Gallery 1983-84 5.51 11. Horror Cave 2.50 1984-85 . 41.34 1985-86 130.97 12. Computer Photo 10.00 i 13. Laughing clown 1.25 Grants and Loans to Bihar

14. Punch Ball 1.25 1777. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU 15. Striker 1.25 DEVI : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : 16. Muscleman 1.25

17. Appu Columbus 3.75 (a) the amount of grants allotted to Bihar by the Union Government during the 1.25 18. Baby Cars last three years, year-wise ; and 171 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, J986 Written Answers 172

(b) the amount given to the State as workers of 529 textiles mills including waste loan during this period ? spinning plants and processing units in Tamil Nadu went on strike from 16th to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 24 th July, 1985 in support of their demands DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN including wage revision. The workers of THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI about 80 mills in Coimbatore district of B.K. GADHVI) : (a) and (b) The amounts Tamil Nadu also went on strike from 9th of grants and loads allotted/given to Bihar November, 1985, The mills gradually by the Union Government during the last resumed functioning since 25th November. three years, (1983-84 tp 1985-86) are as 1985. follows ; (c) The extent of production of textiles (Rs. in lakhs) affected on account of closure of these mills 1983-84 1984-85 1985-86 is 130.74 million kgs. of spun yarn and (Accounts) (RE.) (B.E.) 349.08 Mn. metres of cloth during 1985-86.

Grants 24313 34937 40375 (d) The volume of exports affected due Loans 51492 46527 44864 to the loss of production on account of closure of these textile mills cannot be [English] quantified.

EITcct of Closure of Textile Mi'ls (e) The total of 9994 workers got affected by the closure. 1778. SHRI CHINTAMANl JENA : SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: (f) The closure of textile mills occurs Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased due to a number of factors. The problems to state : of mills are examined on a case to case basis and remedial measures are taken (a) the number of textile mills which especially keeping in view the guidelines were a^scted by closure, lockouts, strikes envisaged in the Textile Policy cf June, and lay-offs during the year 1985-86 ; 1985.

(b) the main reasons for the closure of Unaccounted Money Abroad these mills ; 1779. SHRI CHINTAMANl JENA : (c) the extent of production of textiles Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased affected on this account ; to state : m (d) the volume of exports affccted due (a) the estimated amount of unaccount- • to the loss of production ; ed money abroad belonging to Indian residents especially businessmen ; and (e) the total number of workers rendered unemployed as a result thereof; and (b) the steps contemplated for bringing back to India a substantial part of this (f) the measures being taken on pro- unaccounted money ? posed to be taken to restart the mills ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) No MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. estimate is available with the Government. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) The number of cotton textile mills which were (b) In addition to stepping up the affected by closures/lock-out/strike/lay-off/ activities of Enforcement Agency, Govern- financial difficulties during the year 1985-86 ment have announced amnesty from prosecu- is 139. Out of these mills, 83 mills were tion of or levy of penalty on all those who closed for part of the year, while the remain- furnish voluntary declarations about their ing 56 mills were closed for the complete undisclosed financial insterests and activities year 1985-86. In addition about two lakh abroad, by 31.3.1987. j73 Written Answers KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 174

Recovery of Money from (a) whether Government propose to Shri Rajindra Sethia make a uniform tax code in the country ;

1780. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV ; (b) if so, the broad outlines of the pro- SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH posal ; and MALIK : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (c) by what time it is likely to be introduced ? (a) the progress of action taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government for recovery of money trom THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Shri Rajindra Sethia who allegedly had JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) The cheated Punjab National Bank, Central Bank Government proposes to introduce a tax of India and Union Bank of India, London code relating to direct taxes. branches to the tune of Rs. 250 crores ; and (b) The tenta tive proposals formulated by the Government were published in the (b) what action has been taken against form of a Discussion Paper, which was the officers of the banks who have been placed on the Table of both the Houses found guilty in the transactions ? of Parliament on 14th August, 1986. Final decisions in regard thereto are being taken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN in the light of the comments and sugges- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI tions received in response to the Discussion JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Punjab Paper. National Bank, Central Bank of India and Union Bank of India have filed claims with (c) A Comprehensive Bill amending the official liquidator for M/s. Lsal (Com- the direct tax laws is proposed to be intro- modities) Ltd. They have also lodged their duced in Parliament shortly. The tax code claims with the Central Bank of Nigeria in will then be taken up and introduced in the respect of those hills pertaining to Nigeria. next financial year. The Banks have a Iso made some recoveries by sale of securities, such as landed proper- C.B.I. Raid at Premises of Bank Officials ties shares etc. As a result of these steps, three banks have so far recovered Rs. 91 1782. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : Will crores approximately. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (b) Union Bank of India has dismissed two of its officers connected with the trans- (a) whether country-wide raids have actions, whilst Punjab National Bank has been conducted by C.B.I at the premises of terminated the services of one officer and various bank officials throughout the country censured two others. Charge-sheets have as reported in the ‘Statesman’ of 22 October, also been served on two other officers. 1986 ; Central Bank of India has suspended one of its officers, and withheld the terminal bene- (b) if so, the particulars of the officials fits of another officer, pending disposal of whose premises have been raided ; and criminal and civil action filed against them by the Bank. (c) the details of the unaccounted money Uniform Tax Code and incriminating documents seized and the action being taken by Government in this 1781. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : regard ? SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MALIK : THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI SARI PRAKASH V. PAT1L ; JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Information is being collected and to the to state : extent available and admissible under sta- 175 Written A nswers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written A ns wers 176 tutcs governing,the public sector banks, will (a) the names and the value of the be laid on the table of the House. chemical items exported during 1984-85. 1985-86 and the target fixed for 1986-87 ;

\ Price of Cold (b) whether it is a fact that India’s 1783. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL : share in regard to export of chemical pro- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased ducts is negligible ; and to state : (c) if so, the steps being taken to boost (a) whether Government are aware that their export ? the price of go Id has increased during the last 3-4 m onths; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, by how much and the reasons THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI therefore : P. R. DASMUNSI) : (a) The estimated value of export of drugs, pharmaceuticals (c) whether it is a fact that it is due to and line chemicals ; Dyes, dye intermediates, the increase in expbrt of jewellery and gold alchohal and coal ter chemicals ; basic ornaments ; and organic and inorganic chemicals, including agro chemicals during the year 1984-85 and (d) whether Government propose to 1985-86 are Rs-. 309.5 crores and Rs. 302.3^ change the policy regarding export of gold crores respectively. The target for 1986-87 ornaments to reduce the price of gold in is Rs. 370.0 crores. the country and to discourage the smuggling (b) Yes, Sir. of gold ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) An inter-ministerials standing com- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI mittee has been set up under the Ministry JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) of Commerce to review the problems being There has been a rising trend in the dome- faced by the exporters of this sector and to stic prices of gold during the past four resolve them expeditiously. Thrust commodi- months. The prices of 10 grams of standard ties having substantial scope for accelerated gold in the Bombay market increased from export during the seventh five year plan, Rs. 21()5 on 25th July, 1986 to Rs. 2380 on have been identified for special export pro- 31*t October, 1986. The prices of gold with- motional measures. in the country are determined by various factors including the movement in the inter- Some of the promotional measures national price of the commodity, the relative already taken inculde reduction of interest scarcity of ready stock and speculative rates and extension of period of preship- factors. ment credit, revision of cash compensatory support scheme and introduction of scheme (c) and (d) it is unlikely that the for supply of raw materials at concessional current level of exports of jewellery and rates. gold ornaments would affect significantly the prices of gold in the domestic market Three Year Plan to Strengthen Income Tax Department ^ since the quantity of gold exported is imported into the country under the gold replenishment schemes and these exports and 1785. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : imports take place at the prevailing inter- SHRI S.M. GURADD1 : W ill national prices. There is no proposal under the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to consideration to change the existing policy state : regarding export of gold ornaments . (a) whether Government propose to Exports of Chemical Goods formulate a three year plan to strengthen the Income Tax Department for intensifying 1784. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL : anti-evasion operations ; and Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : (b) if so. the details thereof ? 177 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written A ns wers 178

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Introduction of New Schemes and Incentives THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI on India Promotion Abroad JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) A long term Plan for Survey for 1986-87 1787. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : to 1989-90 has been drawn up. The basic •SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will objectives of this Plan are to collect infor- the Minister of TOURISM be. pleased to mation from external and internal sources state : to bring into the Income-tax registers as many tax-paying assessees as possible and (a) whether Government have introduc- to generally motivate the tax-payers towards ed new schemes and incentives on India greater voluntry compliance with various .Promotion abroad ; provisions of Direct T ax Acts. The man- power needed for survey, scarch and pro- (b) if so, the amount proposed to be secution has been sanctioned with a view to incurred on these schemes ; strengthen the administrative set-up for intensifying anti-evasion operations in (c) whether it is a fact that other coordination with enforcement agencies of schemes were also launched to attract the other revenue Departments. foreign tourists ; and

Visa Requirements to Indians Visiting (d) if so, the details thereof and to Singapore what extent the tourism flow to India is likely to improve during the current 1786. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : season ? SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS b* THE MINISTER OF TOURISM pleased to state : (MUFTI MOHD. SYLD) (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. The Government have introduced the (a) whether it is a fact that Singapore following new schemes and incentives for has decided to Impose visa requirements promotion of India abroad : of Indians who visit Singapore ; — “India on the House”-—-in Austral- (h) if so, the main reasons for imposing asia, visa requirements : and —-Special product advertising is taken (c) whether Indian Government was up to promote summer tour to consulted before taking decision and to India—in Japan. what extent this decision of the Singapore will effect Indians? - -“Affordable India”— in Europe.

. THE ' MINISTER OF STATE IN — “India 9 hours away”— in U.K. THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : — “ Have the festival of your life— in , (a) Yes, Sir. India it is wonderful.

(b) According to the Singapore Govern- The amount proposed to be incurred ment the introduction of the visa system is as follows : is mainly to check illegal immigration. Japan — 25 lakhs (c) The Government of India was not U.K. — 20 lakhs consulted by the Singapore Government before taking the dec isiom When the visa USA — 100 lakhs requirements come into force Indian Europe 25 lakhs nationals wishing to visit Singapore will be required to possess valid visas issued by (c) and (d) Yes, Sir. The overseas Singapore diplomatic missions and to abide offices conduct from time to time ‘Know by the visa conditions. India Seminars’, special, presentations on 179 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written A ns wers ]80

India and also participate in Travel Marts. 3. 8 Beach Cottages 13.66 1987-88 & Trade fairs. at Kanyakumari, Tamilnadu The tourism inflow to India from Jan’ 86 to Oct'86 has shown an increase of 5, Haveli Cottages 21.02 1988-89 17.1% over the last year for the correspond- at Ahmedpur ing period. Mandvi Beach, Gujarat. It is expected that tourist arrival figures exclusive of Bangladesh and Pakistan will 6. Construction of 40.17 1987-88 touch one million in the currerit year. Cottages at Digha, West Bengal, Development of Sea Beaches as Tourist Resorts Rise in Wholesale Price Index

1788. SHRI T. BASHEER : Will the 1789. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (a) whether there is any proposal to develop more beaches as tourist resorts in (a) whether the wholesale price index the country ; and has reached a new high ;

(b) if so, the areas thus selected and the (b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and approximate expenditure involved alongwith the time limit for completion of the (c) the details of the efforts made to same ? bring down the wholesale prices in the country ? THE MINISTER OF TOURISM MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) On THE MINISTER OF STATE JN receipt of proposals from the concerned THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI State Governments, the Central Ministry JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) of Tourism has sanctioned schemes for The latest wholesale Price Index (1970-71 = develoment of beach resorts in Andhra 100) (WPI) is now available for 1.11.1986 Pradesh, Gujarat, Maharashtra and which shows a decline to 382.2 from 384.0 Tami Inadu. for the week ending 18.10.1986.

The areas along with the sanctioned (c) The thrust of the Government's amount and likely date of completion are anti-inflationary policy continues to be an as follows : effective demand and supply management including strengthening of the public distri- (Rs. in lakhs) bution system ; regulated releases of sugar and edible oils, enforcement of discipline Sr. Name of the Amount Likely date and mopping up of e,\cess liquidity in the. No. Scheme sanctioned of com- system. The Central Government has advis- pletion ed the State Governments to take strict action against traders indulging in profiteer- 1. Beach Cottages 20.80 1987.88 ing, hoarding and blackmarketing. at Rishikonda, Andhra Pradesh. Fall in Price of Gunny Bags

2. 25 Beach Co ttages 30.17 1988-89 1790. DR. SUDHIR ROY ; Will the at Nargol, Bulsar Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to Distt. Gujarat, state :

3. 2 Beach Cottages 8.77 1987-88 (a) whether it is a fact that gunny at Ganapatipule, bags prices have been crashed owning to a Maharashtra sharp fall in local offtake ; and 181 Writ ten Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA)Written Answers 182

(b) if so, the steps taken by Govern- (a) whether Government have any pro- ment ? posal under consideration to introduce package tours by rail or road for the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN domestic tourists ; and THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) The prices (b) if so, the details thereof ? of jute goods are showing a declining trend in recent months mainly due to lack of THE MINISTER OF TOURISM adequate market outlets both at home and (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) (I) abroad commensurate with present volume l.T.D.C. of production of jute goods. India Tourism Development Corporation (b) A Statement is given below. runs a number of package tours during certain months of the year. The packages Statement are student package, youth package, senior citizen package, week-end Getaway package, honey-moon package, you and me package Some of the important steps taken by the Government to arrest declining trend in and LTC package. These packages are jute goods prices include : available at ITDC's selected hotels with considerable reduced rates for accommodation and meals. In addition to these (i) Requirement of jute goods fro packing Rabi *87 crop has been assessed packages, ITDC has also regular package tours available for tourists visiting Kashmir. in advance and it has been decided to cover projected requirement of jute bags in a (II) Indian Railways phased manner from November 1986 to March 1987. Railways operate ‘Palace on Wheels’ (ii) Vigorous efforts are being made to package tours in collaboration with Rajasthan capture some global tenders by offering Tourism Development Corporation. competitive prices with loss-sharing arrangement under Export price Stabilisation Fund (III) Vayudoot Scheme of Jute Manufactures Development Council (JMDC). Vayudoot also runs a number of packages in collaboration with several State Tourism (iii) A High-powered Committee headed Corporations etc. Around 20th November by Secretary (Textiles) has recently been J986 Vayudoot will be introducing 30 new constituted for working out details of package tours covering various stations to mandatory usage of jute packaging materials which they operate. These tours are from for various sectors within the country. 2 to 12 days duration. (iv) Two new constructions of jute and jute-based bags have been permitted for Promotion of Tourism for Places of commercial use by Cement Industry and Buddhist Pilgrimage since prices of these bags are expected to 1792. PROF. NARAIN CHAND be somewhat lower than conventional jute PARASHAR : bags, it is hoped that it should be possible SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA : to recover a part of lost cement packaging Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased market by larger use of these newly to state : developed bags.

(v) Efforts are being made to find out (a) whether any comprehensive pro- alternative uses of jute in packing tea, gramme for production of tourism for the production of carpets, blankets etc. places of Buddhist pilgrimage on a National scale has been prepared by Government or Proposal to Introduce Package Tours by the India Tourism Development Corporation; Rail or Road for Domestic Tourists (b) if so, a brief outline of the pro- 1791. DR. SUDHIR ROY : Will the gramme including the travel circuits being Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state ; developed for this purpose ; 183 Written Answers NOVEMBER, 14, 1986 Written Answers 184

(c) whether such places of pilgrimage as FINANCE be pleased to refer to the reply Rewalsar in Mandi district and Tabo and given to Unstarred Question No. 113 on Kye Monastries in Lahul Spiti in Himachal 11, July 1986 regarding recommendations of Pradesh, Leh in Jammu and Kashmir, working group on Regional Rural Banks and Sankissa and Shravasti in U.P. and Nagar- state : juna Konda in Andhra Pradesh have also been included in the programme ; and (a) the action taken by Government on * the recommendations made by the working (d) if not, the reasons therefor and group on Regiona J Rura I Banks ; and whether any specific programme for the left- / out places would also be chalked out at an (b) if no action has been taken, the early date ? reasons therefor andwhen it is likely to be taken ? THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) In THE MINISTER OF STATE IN pursuance of a decision to prepare an THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Action Plan for the development of the JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) Buddhist Sector, a sub-committee on Publi- The recommendations of the Working city and Promotion was constituted on Group were examined in consultation with 11.7.1986 under the Chairmanship of the Reserve Bank of India and National Bank Additional Director General (Tourism). A for Agriculture and Rural Development broad outline of a Plan for promoting places (NABARD). It has been decided that addi- of Buddhist pilgrim on a national scale was tional share capital may be provided in a formulated. This plan was divided into phased manner to Regional Rural Banks three broad categories wh ich included a (RRBs) with comparatively good performance programme for record. The RRBs should be asked to improve recovery of dues and this would (1) Print production be an important cr iterion in judging their suitability for additional share capital. It (2) Production of an Audio-visual ; and has also been decided that RRBs may be (3) An advertising campaign for the allowed to lend to public bodies subject to overseas market (Japan, Thailand, etc.) the conditions laid down by NABARD. The recommendations relating to refinance Printing of a special ’‘Road" map from sponser banks and appointment of a (drawn to scale) covering all places of comperathely senior officer have also been Buddhist pilgrimage was also included as accepted. part of this package. Since the Action Plan encompassed several States stretching from The recommendation for bifurcating Northern to Eastern India, no spccitic Travel large RRBs has however not been accepted. Circuits were in d en ted in isolation.

(c) and (d) This promotional strategy • Difficulties in Financing Loans Under does not cover specific travel circuits but ‘IRDP’ and ‘UDA’ to Rural Banks in will encompass the entire group of Buddhist Orissa pilgrim places. Places of Buddhist pilgrimage in the States of U.P. and Bihar as 1794. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will well as those in Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, the M inister of FINANCE be pleased to Orissa, West Bengal, Sikkim and Andhra state : Pradesh will also be included. As the Plan is still in a formative stale, it will be ensured (a) whether the Rural Banks in Orissa that no place of Buddhist interest is omitted find it difficult to nance the beneficiaries in the comprehensive promotional plan. of IRDP, 1TDA and other economical development programmes; Hecoiiimepdations of Working Group on Regional Rural Banks (b) whether it is due to less recovery of loans advanced previously ; 1793. PROF. NARA1N CHAND PARASHAR : Will the Minister of (c) it not, the reasons thereof; and j 85 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

(d) the steps taken by Government to the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to improve the financial position of these state : banks ? (a) total outflow of money, from the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN country on account of profit, royalty, techni- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI cal fee, interest etc. to foreign firms year- JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (d) wise, during the last three years ; and The requisite information is being collected * and will be laid on the Table of the House (b) the additional out-flow due to the lo the extent possible. permission given to foreign/NRI firms in 1986 ? Loans Under IRDP and ITDA Schemes in Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1795. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) The Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : information for the years 1983-84, *’ 1984-85 and 1985-86 is being collected and will be (a) whether the State Bank of India laid on the Table of the House. and the Regional Rural Banks in Orissa fulfilled their targets to finance loans*to (b) Permissions given to foreign/NRI beneficiaries under IRDP and ITDA schemes firms during 1986 might be at different during 1985-86 ; stages of implementation and as a result the out-flow on account of Profit etc. might (b) whether there was any shortfall in not yet have started. Nevertheless, Infor- any district ; and mation is being collected and will be laid \ on the Table of the House. (c) if so, the reasons therefor'! Countervailing Duty on Imported THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Paraxyiene • THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) to (c) 1798. DR. A. K. PATEL : Will the The requisite information is being collected Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : and will be laid on the Table of the House to the extent possible. (a) whether it-is a fact that imported Paraxyiene consumed in the manufacture PM’s Direction to Commerce Ministry I of DMT is totally exempt from countervailing duty ; 1796. SHRI S.M. GURADD1 : SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA : (b) if so, whether Government propose Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas- to extend the duty concession on Paraxyiene ed to state : consumed in the manufacture of PTA also which is an alternate raw material to DMT; (a) whether the Prime Minister has and recently given some directions for the revamping of the Ministry of Commerce ; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor 7 (b) if so, the details therof ? ' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OFSTATE IN JANARDHANA PoOJARY) ; (a) Yes, THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Sir. P. R. DASMUNSI).: (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise. (b) and (c) PTA production is yet to be established in the country. When ii dees ’ Outflow of Money to Foreign Firms' Government will consider its cost data and examine the duty burden it can bear as 1797. DR. A.K. PATEL : compared tb DMT, so that there is no SHRI C. JANCiA RfcDDY : Will discreminatory treatment in regard to 187 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 188

Paraxyiene consumed in the manufacture formations remain vigilant to check the of PTA. smuggling of drugs.

Smuggling of Narcotics from Across The Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Rajasthan Border Substances Act, 1985, which has come into force with effect from 14.11.1985, provides 1799. SHRI ANAND SINGH : for deterrent punishments for drug traffic- SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI king offences. A new organisation called, KHAN : Will the Minister of “Narcotics Control Bureau” has been set FINANCE be pleased to state : up for effectively co-ordinating the action against illicit traffic in drugs. (a) whether huge quantities of heroin, charas and other narcotics smuggled from I nauthorised Chit Fund Business Pakistan across Rajasthan border have been seized during the past four months ; 1801. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: WiII the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) if so, the details of the seizures to state ; made during the period as compared to the corresponding period last year ; and (a) whether it is a fact that the unauthorised chit fund business has been (c) the steps taken by Government to ruining a number of middle class people and check smuggling of narcotics into the now-a-days chit fund business has become country from across Rajasthan border ? more rampant than gambling ;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) the number of cases of fraud in THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI running chit fund business that have come JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) to the notice of Government during 1985 and According to reports made available to the 1986 so far ; and Government, the details of the seizures of drugs smuggled from Pakistan across (c) action taken in regard to those^ Rajasthan border from July to October, cases 7 1986 and the corresponding period of 1985 are as under ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : (a) to (c> Name of July to October Prior to enactment of the Chit Funds Act. 1982 by the Central Government, the 1986 1985 Institutions running conventional chit fund business were taking advantage either of the kg. kg. absence of any law governing their chit fund business in the States where they were J. Charas 1,758 operating or, where laws existed, exploited (Hashish) the lacunac that existed in these laws. The 2. Heroin 683 366 Cbit Funds Act, 1982 was enacted to control and regulate the chit Tund business and to (Figures provisional) create a machinery for monitoring these activities and empowering the authorities (e) In addition to appropriate anti- concerned with powers to punish the guilty. smuggling measures taken in co-ordination The Act also contains various restrictive with the Central and State Government provisions which are expected to check/ authorities concerned, close co-operation minimise the abuses resorted to by the with the international agencies concerned persons operating the Chit Funds in the and also with the drug law enforcement past. The Administration of the various agencies of U.S.A., U.K., etc. is maintained provisions of the Chit Funds Act is with the to curb smuggling of drugs. The intelligence State Governments/Union Territories who' machinery has been geared up and the f eld are required to frame necessary rules ia j89 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 190

consultation with the Reserve Bank of India produce janta cloth according to their before the Act is extended to that State/ entitlement. However, with the proposed Union Territory. As on date, the Act has transfer of production of controlled cloth .already been brought into force in 13 States/ from the NTC mills to the handloom sector, Union Territories and the conventional Chit all States/Union Territories have been Fund business is regulated in those States/ informed that they will have to make their Union Territories under the provisions of arrangements for production of janata cloth. the rules framed under Chit Funds Act, Since some of the States, at present, do not 1982. Since the machinery for monitoring have enough handlooms to produce janata of the illegal activities rests with the State cloth at all or upto their entitlement for Governments/Union Territories. State consumption, they may have to make ■Governments/Union Territories Administra- arrangements to get their requirements of tions are expected to take action when janata cloth from other States which may violations of these provisions of the Act be willing to produce more than their entitle- take place. ment, failing which they may not be able to ensure adequate availability of janata cloth RBI is pursuing the matter with the in keeping with their entitlement. remaining State Governments/Union Terri- tories for early framing of the rules and for (c) Yes, Sir. enforcement of the Act. (d) The States which are not participat- Since the administration of chit fund ing in janata cloth scheme are : Jammu & business now rests with State Governments/ v Kashmir, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Punjab, Union Territories Administrations, Govern- Sikkim and all Union Territories except ment have no ready information about the Pondicherry. These States do not have number of frauds and violations of the enough cotton handlooms, which are capable provisions of this Act. of producing the type of fabrics engisaged under the scheme. Curtailment in the Quota due to Non- production of Handloom .lanta Cloth Loans to SCs/STs and Backward Classes according to entitlement under D.R.l. Scheme in A.P.

J802. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: 1803. SHRI V. TULSIRAM ; Will the Will the Minister of TEXTILES lie pleased Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : to state : (a) the total amount of advances given (a) whether it is a fact that State to priority sector by public sector banks Governments which do not produce hand- during the last three years in Andhra loom Janta Cloth according to their entitle- Pradesh ; ment, face the bloak prospect of curtailment in their quota at a later stage ; (b) the amount given^to the Scheduled castes/schedulcd tribes, adivasis antk back- (b) if so, the details regarding the ward classes under Differential Rate of scheme of Government in this regard ; Interest (DRI) scheme ;

(c) whether there are some States which (c) the position of overdues on such are not participating in this scheme ; and advances separately in respect of advances given under the DRI scheme ; (d) if so, the details regarding the number and names of such States alongwith reasons in this regard ? (d) whether there is any proposal to write oil' the small amounts of loans given THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to SC/ST, adivasis and backward classes in MINISTRY ’ OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. the Andhra Pradesh ; and KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (b) No, Sir. There is no proposal for curtailment of (e) if so, the details thereof and if not, quota of janta cloth for States which do not the reasons therefor ? 19 J Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 192

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) if so. the details thereof ; and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARV) : (a) Priority (d) when it is proposed to open such Sector Advances of Public Scctor Banks in tourist centres indicating the estimated cost the State of Andhra Pradesh stood at thereof ? Rs. 1300 crores, Rs. 1645 crores and 1750 crores respectively as at the end of THE MINISTER OF TOURISM December 1983, December 1984 and June (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) to (d) The 1985. Crntral Ministry of Tourism invites proposals frcm all State Governments including $ ) and (c) The present data reporting Andhra Pradesh for allocation of funds system of banks docs not generate separate scheme-wise and not district-wise. These information in the manner asked for. The pioposals are examined on merits and , available information regarding D.R.I. according to inter-se-priorities fixed by the advances relating to Public Sector Banks in Planning Commission. the State of Andhra Pradesh is set out below ; Setting up of Information Centres at District level is a State subject. The ' (Amount in Rs. crores) Central Ministry of Tourism has, however, opened a Government of India Tourist Office Amount Of which Amount at Hyderabad in 1983. • Out- to SC/ST of over- standing borrow- dues Compulsory Registration of Powcrlooins under ers under D.R.I. D.R.I. 1805. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Schcme Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state : December 1983 23.77 12.12 8.43 (a) whether it is a fact that Government Decemeer have taken a decision in favour, of compul- 1984 28.82 14.87 10.26 sory registration of powerloom ; June 1985 29.74 15.16 9.24 (b) if so. the details in this regard ; and (d) and (e) There is no proposal to write otT small loans given to SC/Sf in the (c) steps proposed to be taken to safe- State of Andhra Pradesh. However, the guard the interest of powerloom workers ? proposal for relief in repayment including writting off of loan amount, wholly or in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE part, is considered by banks on the merits MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. of each individual case. KRISHNA KUMAR) ; (a) and (b) The Textile (Control) Order, 1986 came into Proposal to Open Tourist Centres force with effect from 11-4-1986. Under this in Andhra Pradesh order registration of existing powerlooms without valid permits will be done by the 1804. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will the registration authorities, notified by the State Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : Governments/Union Territory administrations, according to the provisions of Part Ilf (a) whether Government propose to of the order. open Tourist Centres at various districts of Andhra Pradesh for the convenience of the (c) The Textile Policy states that the domestic and foreign tourists coming in organisation of production in the powerloom large number to visit the famous historical sector should be guided by the objective, monuments in the State ; inter alia, of meeting workers’ welfare. State Government and Union Territory authorities (b) if so, whether Government have have been requested to implement package, asked for a report in this connection from of measures for healthy development of the State Government of Andhra Pradesh ; powerloom industry and welfare of labour J93 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 employed therein. In order to improve the (d) Promotional expenses of any parti- working conditions of the workers employed cular year are not d irectly related to the in the handloom and powerloom sectors of foreign exchange earnings from tourism the unorganised labour, Govt, have set up a during that year. Tripartite Study Group. Compulsory Export of Finished Goods Foreign Exchange Earned from Tourists by Large Industrial Houses

1806. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : 1807. SHRI P.M. SAYEED : Will the Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to to state ‘ state : (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- (a) the total amount of foreign exchange ment propose to make it compulsory for earned by Government from tourists during the large industria 1 houses to export their the last three years, year-wise ; finished goods ;

(b) the details of amount spent on (b) if so, the details of the proposal ; promotion of tourism to India including and expenditure incurred on payment of pay, allowances, rent, staff car, and expenditure (c) the measures to be adopted to incurred in maintaining tourists offices render necessary assistances to the afore- abroad ; mentioned big industries to enable them to export their goods ? (c) the number of such offices located outside India ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (d) the expenses incurred in earning P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) and (b) The one dollar of foreign exchange in the light MRTP/FERA companies are requ ired to of the above ? participate, among others, in the list of industries of Appendix-1 to the Press Note THE MINISTER OF TOURISM of February 2, 1973. If these companies (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) As per infor- desire to set up industries other than mation avai Jable from the Reserve Bank of Appendix-I Industries, they have to export India, the comparable estimates of foreign 60% of the production. In case such an exchange earnings from tourism are as given industry happens to be one reserved for below : small scale sector, thty have to agree to export at least 75% of the production. The (Rs. crores) condition of exports up to 60% in respect 1982-83 1130.6 of non-Appendix-I Industries (other than 1983-84 1225.0 small scale industries) has been reduce to 1984-85 1300.00 (Provi- 25% for setting up industries in Category siona 1 (B) and (C) backward areas and to ‘Nil’ for setting up industries in Category (A) (d) The expenditure incurred by the backward Areas. Department in maintaining tourist offices abroad and on publicity during the above (c) A number of measures have been three years are as given below : taken in the Held of ii seal policy, industrial policy and import-export policy which (Rs. crores) would encourage interalia larger houses/to export. These include, among others, the 1982-83 4.30 set off of a percentage of net f.o.b. value of 1983-84 5.02 exports allowed for income tax purposes, 1984-85 5,60 raising of limit from Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 100 crores for large houses under the (c) The number of tourist offices located MRTP Act, expansion of the list of indus- outside India is 20 includ ing a Tourist Infor- tries of Appendix 1 to the Press Note of mation Counter at Kathmandu (Nepal). Februray 2, 1973 for investments by MRTP/ 195 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 196

FERA Companies and the decision that mentation of the decision of the Eighth export production will be kept outside the Non-Aligned Summit at Harare relating to licensed capacity. the establishment of the AFRICA (Action for Resisting Invasion, Colonialism and Africa Cell Apartheid) fund of which India is the Chairman. 1808. SHRI P.M.SAYEED : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Import of Deep Sea Fishing Vessels by pleased to state : 100 Per Cent EOUS

(a) whether an Africa Cell has been 1809. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the set up in the Ministry ; Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : (b) if so, the constitution of the Cell ; and (a) whether a meeting was held by him with the exporters of marine products in (c) the precise decisions as based on the August, 1986 ; Harare Summit that are going to be implemented by the Cell ? (b) whether the 100 per cent Export- Oriented-Units (EOUs) havn been permitted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN to acquire deep sea fishing vessels ; and THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : (c) if so, the details thereof ? (a) A Southern African Unit has been established h the Ministry. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (b) The Unit is to be headed by Shri P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Yes, Sir. N.Krishnan as Special Envoy of the Prime Minister for Africa with the rank of (b) and (c) Approval letters in respect Secretary to Government assisted by the of 23 Units (100% Export Oriented Units) following statT : have since been issued, permitting them to import deep sea fishing vessels. 1. Joint Secretary 1 Increase in Facilities to International and 2. Deputy Secretary/ Domestic Tourists Under Secretary 2 1810. SHRI P.M. SAYEED ; Will the 3. Section Officer 1 Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : 4. Private Secretary 1 (a) whether the existing tourist infras- 5. Senior P.A. 1 tructure like hotel rooms, motel facilities on highways, airline seats within the country, 6. Personal Assistants 2 etc. are sufficient to meet the tourist demand ; 7. Assistant 1 (b) if so, the major hurdle being 8. LDC 1 experienced in promoting internatfonal as well as domestic tourism ; 9. Peons 3 (c) whether the facilities to be provided Pending approval for the creation of for the tourists are growing according to these posts the Unit is manned by a skeleton the demand at the same rate due to increase staff; in the number of tourists ; and

(c) The Southern Africa Unit has been (d) if not, the measures which Govern- entrusted the task of monitoring the implement propose to adopt to fill the gap ? ],97 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers i 9g

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (a) whether pension scheme for emplo- (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) yees is in existence in some of the nationa- There is a general shortage in practically lised banks ; all segments of tourist infrastructure facilities in some of the major tourist centre in the (b) if so, their particulars ; and country. The major problem, is the shortage of hotel accommodation of adequate stan- (c) the reasons for not introducing dards to cater to international as well as this scheme in the remaining nationalised domestic tourists. banks ? (c) and (d) The infrastructure facilities available are not keeping pace with the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE growing demand due to increase in the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI number of foreign tourists. Therefore, all JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Of the out efforts are being made to augment these 28 public sector banks, pension benefits are facilities as fast as possible. The develop- available to employees of three banks, ment of infrastructure is a continuous proccss namely, State Bank of India, State and the Department of Tourism is taking Bank of Hyderabad and AllahabadBank. all possible measures to augment these facilities wtth the combined resources of the (b) In terms of the pension schemes in Centre, State and private sectors. these banks, the employees who are members RBI Proposal Re-sale of US Dol'ar of the Pension Fund in State Bank of India and State Bank of Hyderabad are eligible to 1811. SHRI D.N. REDDY : Will the get pension upto a maximum of Rs. 1000/- Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : per month and in Allahabad Bank at the rate of 35% for the officers and clerks and (a) whether there is any proposal with 4o% for sub-staff of the average monthly the Reserve Bank of India to commence sale basic pay drawn during 12 months preceding of US dollars to authorised dealers for the date of retirement, subject to a minimum transactions; and of Rs. 100/-per month. InState Bank of (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the India and in Allahabad Bank relief on details regarding the working of the scheme 7 pension is also paid as per Government guidelines from time to time. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) (c) According to the service conditions At present RBI sells only spot Pound Sterl- of the employees in public sector banks only ing to the authorised dealers. Since a large two types of superannuation benefits are portion of India's trade payment is handled available, viz., Contributory Provident Fund in US Dollars, authorised dealers have to and Gratuity. In State Bank of India, obtain US Dollars for making payments State Bank of Hyderabad and Allahabad against Pound Sterling acquired from RBI. Bank pension has a historical background This process at times can result in loss on and this was one of the superannuation account of convernsion. The Reserve Bank benefits in lieu of gratuity in the pre- of India is, therefore, considering a proposal nationalisation period. Introduction of the for sale of US Dollars to the authorised Pension Scheme in the remaining banks dealers for transactions denominated in would have far reaching financial implication. US Dollars only. The question of working Moreover, the package of benefits already out the details of the scheme would arise available to the remaining public sector only after a final decision is taken by the banks compares fevourably with the available RBI about the introduction of the scheme. in the other public sector organisations.

Introduction of Pension Scheme in Export of Wheat by MMTC to Korea Nationalised Banks

1812. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : 1813. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas- to state : ed to state : 199 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 200

(a) whether it is a fact that MMTC had Opening of Bank Branches in Rural enterad into an agreement with the Demo- Areas of Rajasthan cratic People's Republic of Korea for export of 100,000 tonnes of wheat during the 1815. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : current year ; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (b) whelher it is also a fact that MMTC had appointed a private shipping agency (a) whether it is a fact that there are for clearing, forwarding and stevedoring no branches of banks in rural areas in work of the export of wheat ; and severa I States in the country ;

(c) if so, the reasons for entrusting the (b) if so, the number of rural areas in Rajasthan from which Govetnment have export of wheat to MMTC instead of Food received applications/representation for Corporation of india ? for opening bank branches ;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) whether Government have consider- THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ed those applications/representations : and P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Yes, Sir. MMTC # signed an agreement with Korea Cereals (d) if so, the details in this regard and Export and Import Corporation of Demo- the reasons for not opening bank branches cratic People's Republic of Korea for export there so far ? of 100000 ( ^ 10%) metric tonnes of wheat during currcnt years, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Accord- (b) Yes, Sir. Handling agents were ing to the information available from RBI appointed by MMTC. there were 29,755 bank offices located in rural areas in the country as at the end of (c) As MMTC and SIC arc public June, 86 and no State or Union Territory sector Corporation involved in inter-national was completely devoid of rural branches of Trade, these corporations have been allowed the banks. There are, however, rural to export wheat as well. unbanked pockets in the country. In order to achieve an even spread of bank branches Silver .hveliery Export in the rural and semi-urban areas, the branch licensing policy for 1985-90 envisages 1814. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : the location of atleast one bunk ollice Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas- within a distance of 10 kms. and established to state : ment of a bank office for a population of 17,000 in the rural and semi-urban areas of each Development Block. (a) the estimated silver jewellery Export during 1986-87 : and (b) to (d) Under the current branch licensing policy 1985-90 the lead banks/ (b) whether Government propose tj - State Governments have been entrusted with enunciate a new silver policy with a view the task of identification of centres for , to promoting export of silver jewellery *? opening bank offices. The State Government of Rajasthan has identified 238 potential THE MINISTER OF STATE IN centres for opening bank offices of which THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 236 have been indicated as rural centres. P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Exports of non- RBI has so far in 1986 allotted 21 rural gold jewellery including silver jewellery centres under the current branch licensing during April-Septeniber 1986 are estimated policy including 5 centres recommended by to be about Rs. 1.28 crore. NABARD in respect of newly established Regional Rural Banks. According to the - (b) Yes, Sir. information available branches have been \ 201 Written Answers KARTIKA, 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 202

-opened at 2 centres against the 21 allot- Export of Tobacco by Andhra Tobacco ments. Reserve Bank of India has reported Growers’ Un ion that in the remaining centres branches have not so far been opened. 1817. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- WARA RAO : Will the Minister of Destruction of Tobacco Barns by Floods COMMERCE be pleased to state :

1816. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- (a) whether the Andhra Pradesh Tobacco WARA RAO : Will the Minister of Growers Coop. Union Ltd. has purchased COMMERCE be pleased to state : nearly 1500 tons of tobacco from the growers in the 1986 crop season ; (a) the number of tobacco barns fully/ / partly damaged in Khammam, West and (b) whether it is a fact that only 150 East Godavari, Warangal and Krishana tons of export order to USSR was given districts due to heavy floods in Andhra to the Union through State Trading Cor- Pradesh in August, 1986 and the estimated poration as a result of which large stock of loss to the barns ; tobacco is still left with the Union ; and

(b) whether Tobocco Board has suggest- (c) if so, whether Union Government ed to the Union Government to assist the propose to give more expoit quote to the affected farmers for reconstruction/repairs Union through STC '! of the damaged barns with subsidy element so that tobacco production is not affected THE MINISTER OF STATE IN adversely ; and THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI) ; (a) The Andhra Pradesh (c) if so, the reaction of Union Govern- Tobacco Growers’ Co-operative Union Ltd. ment there to and the pattern of assistance purchased around 170s tonnes of 1986 crop to be given to barn owners ? of VFC tobacco on the auction platforms established by the Tobacco Board. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI) ; (a) According to the (b) and (c) USSR makes commercial assessment made by the Tobacco Board. 3514 purchases of tobacco from various firms in tobacco Borns have been full/partly damaged India. In the year 1986, USSR placed on due to floods in Andhra Pradesh in August, order for supply of 1200 MT of tobacco on 1986 and the extent of loss to the barns is STC. STC initiated a scheme, under which estimated at Rs. 2.30 crores. orders for export to USSR were distributed to 22 small packers/exporters who got 50 (b) Yes, Sir. MTs each and the Andhra Pradesh Tobacco Growers Union was allocated a quantity (c) The nationalised banks have been of 150 MTs: requested lo extend financial assistance in the form of term loan for reconstruction/ Fire Accidents in Purchase Centres repair of the barns. of C.C.I. The State Government had reported that 60 tobacco barns were damaged in East and 1818. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- Wese Godavari district due to Hoods. The ~ WARA RAO ; Will the Minister of State Government had requested for assis- TAXTILES be pleased to state : tance of Rs. 0.50 lakhs towards subsidy on repairs to 24 tobacco barns belonging to (a) the number of fire accidents which small and marginal farmers. Based on the took place in Cotton Corporation of India report of the Central Team and recommenda- purchasing centres during 1986-87 and the tions of the High Level Committee on Relief total loss suffered in such accidcnts ; thereon, a sum of Rs. 0.50 lakh has been approved to the Government of Andhra (b) whether reports were received about Pradesh on 22nd October, 1986 for repairs possible sabotage and collusion of some CCI of the damaged tobacco barns. officials and few traders ; 203 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answres 204

(c) if so, whether C.B.I. enquiry was (a) the details of excise duty, income conducted into these incidents; and tax and customs duty recovered during 1985 and details out of these amounts realised (d) the findings of C.B.I. and the action from multinational companies; and taken thereon ? - (b) the details of duties likely to be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN recovered during 1986 ? THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) No fire THE MINISTER OF STATE JN. accidents occured at the pruchasing centres THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI of the Cotton Corporation of India during JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b> the Cotton year 1986-87 (from Sept. 1986) Information to the extent possible is being and therefore there is no question on any collected and will be laid on the Table of loss to the Corporation on account of fire the House . accidents. Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic (b) to (d) Do not arise. . Substances Act, 1985

Conference of Collectors of Excise 1821. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE : Department Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : 1819. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Will the M inister of FINANCE be pleased (a) whether Government have made any to state : assessment of the effectiveness or otherwise of the Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic (a) whether a conference of collectors Substances Act, 1985 in curbing the drug of Excise department was held during menace in the country ; September, 1986 ; (b) if so, the percentage by which drug (b) if so, the object of the meeting : addiction and its clandestine trade in the and country has increased or decreased since the (c) the details of decisions taken enforcement of the legislation stating its therein 7 drawbacks, if any ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) the stops contemplated by Govern- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ment to tackle the drug abuso monace in JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) the country ? The East, West and North Zone Collectors' of Central Excise, Conferences were held at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bhubaneshwar, Bombay and New Delhi MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI respectively during the month of September JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c> 1986 to review Central Excise revenue The Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Sub- collections on various excisable commodities stances Act, 1985, which came into force and to discuss the various administrative with effect from 14.11.1985, besides providing aspects of those Collectorates. These con- for deterrent punishments for drug offences, ferences are a monthly feature. has also empowered officers of the various Central and State Government agencies for A meeting of five Co Hectors os Central seizure, search, arrest and conducting of Excise, having M/s. I.T.C. factories under investigation in respect of drug offence their jurisdiction, was also held at Calcutta cases. Government have been monitoring to finalise assessments relating to cigarettes effective enforcement of the aforesaid enact- manufactured by these factories. ment. As a result of various measures taken and the vigorous drive launched Recovery of Taxes against drug trafficking, there has been 1820. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: considerable increase in the quantities of Will the M inister of FINANCE be pleased drugs seized from 14.11.1985 (i.e., the date to state : of coming into force of the new Act) to 205 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, J908 (SAKA) Written Answers 206

31.10.1986 as compared to the corresponding (b) if so, whether such instructions apply period during 1984-85. to deferred payment guarantees also ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Name of PERIOD THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI

Further, under the Central Sector, the (a) whether Government are aware that Central Silk Board has a Regional Research Aimora and Pithoragarh districts of U.P, Station with two Research Extension Centres have a great potential for development as- for extending R&D support for develop- places of national and international levefc ment of sericulture industry in the State of of tourism ; and Jammu and Kashmir. Two Basic seed Farms and one seed Production Centre have (b) if so, the steps proposed to be been established in the State to augment taken by Government to bring this tourist supply of quality silkworm seed. In addition potential in lime-light and to explore it to these, the Board has a Regional Olfice in during remaining period of the current Srinagar to coordinate sericultural activities plan ? of the region. The Board has also organised study visits of farmers from Jammu & THE MINISTER OF TOURISM Kashmir to Karnataka. (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b> Aware of the importance of Hill Areas of Export of A pple and Apple Juice U.P. ns places of tourism interest, the Ministry of Tourism has finalised an Action 1824. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI ; Plan to promote several identified centres Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased includidg Aimora and Pithoragarh in a to state ; phased manner during the current plan period. (a) the production of apple and apple juice in the State of Himachal Pradesh Recovery of Loans under I.R.D.P. by during this y ear; Bank in Uttar Pradesh

(b) how much out of it was ax ported 1826. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will to foreign countries and how much income the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to was derived from such exports ; and state : (c) the steps contemplated to increase the export of angle and apple juice during (a) whether he is aware that the the Seventh Plan ? branches of many banks in Uttar Pradesh have recovered the whole amount of loans THE MINISTER OF STATE IN within three years from the beneficiaries THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI under Integrated Rural Development Pro- P.R. DASMUNSI.) : The estimated programme (IRDP; ; duction of apples in Himachal Pradesh during this year is 500,000 metric tonnes. (b) if so, whether such action is contrary The production of apple juice in the State to the directions issued by Government for was 400 MTs during 1985. this programme ; and

(b) Export data is not available on (c) if so, the steps proposed to be taken, State-wise basis. to stop such practice and issue necessary instructions to the banks in this regard ? (c) The steps to increase exports of apple and apple juice include the grant of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Cash Compensatory Support and incentives THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI like Import Replenishment licences, Duty JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c> Drawback facilities and duty free import Reser\c Bank of India has issued instructions of inputs like packaging materials etc. to the banks that repayment period of IRDP loans should be fixed taking into account [Translation) surplus generating capacity, sustenance requirements, the break-even point, the Development of Aimora and Pithoragarh economic life of' the assets etc. and the Distt. for Tourism period should in no case, be less than 3~ years, : 1825.-SHRI HAR1SH RAWAT : Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to The Concurrent Evaluation of IRDP state : carried out at the behest of the Government 209 Written Answers KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) H r it ten A ns wers 210

t 1 has however revealed that the banks 1. Shri Mohammed Yunus Chairman have in some cases fixed the period of Chairman, repayment at less than 3 years in various Trade Fair Authority of parts of the country, including Utter Pradesh, India Government has brought the deficiency to the notice of the banks advising them to 2. Shri S.K. Misra Member issue suitable instructions to the operating Secretary functionaries for corrective action and also Ministry of Tourism to have the matter discussed at the State Level Bankers Committee. 3. Smt. Kapila Vatsayan Member Secretary [English] Department of Arts « High Level Authority to Devise Market- 4. Shri K.L. Thapar Member in2 Policy for,Promotion to Tourism Adviser (Transport & Tourism) 1827. SHRI HARISH RAW AT: Will Planning Commission the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state : 5. Shri K.B. Lai Member (a) whether Government propose to set Former Commerce Secretary up a high level permanent authority to & Ambassador to EEC devise a marketing policy for the promotion of tourism ; and 6. Dr. B. Venkataraman Member Former Secretary (b) if so, its constitution and when it Ministry of Tourism & is proposed to be set up ? Civil Aviation

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM 7. Shri A.N. Haksar Member (MUFTI MOHD. SYED): The Planning Former Chairman Commission have set up a National Com- I.T.C. mittee on Tourism to formulate a long- term perspective Plan for the Tourism Sector on an integrated basis. The Com- 8. Shri Inder Sharma Member mittee was notified in July’ 1986 under the Chairman Chairmanship of Shri Mohammed Yunus, Sita World Travels Chairman, Trade Fair Authority of India. Among its terms of reference, the Commit- 9. Shri Gautam Khanna Member tee will look into the question of devising Sr. Vice President a marketing policy for the promotion of Oberoi Hotels and tourism based on market needs and Chairman-Mercury demands. It has set up several sub-commit- Travels tees to look into the various terms of reference who have been directed to submit 10. Shri Rajan Jetley Member their findings within the time bound Managing Director schedule assigned. I.T.D.C.

(b) A statement indicating the constitu- 11. Shri A.B. Kerkar Member tion of the Committee composed of 12 Members including the Chairman, is given Vice-Chairman & M.D. below. ( Taj Group of Hotels

Statement 12. Shri R.K. Puri Secretary Sr. Vice-President List of Members of the National Committee (Commercial) on Tourism. I.T.D.C. 211 Written A ns wers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 212

[Translation] (a) whether it is a fact that recent review of textile industry by the Planning Opening of Bank Branches by Commission- indicated that there is no Pithoragarh Gramin Bank control of Government over the prices of synthetic fibre inputs ; and 1828. SHRI HARISH RAWAT ; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) if so, the steps taken by Govern- state : ment to ensure availability of synthetic fibre at reasonably cost in order to make (a) the names of places selected by our textile products more competitive in Pithoragarh Gramin Bank for their branch the domestic as well as international expansion programme ; market ?

(b) whether the said bank has applied to Reserve Bank of India for licences for THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN opening branches at these places ; and THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) ; (a) No, Sir, The (c) if so, the decision taken thereon ? meeting held by the Member Planning Commission was regarding the impact of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the Textile Policy and it did not discuss THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI synthetic fibre inputs. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) Reserve Bank has reported that it had (b) The following steps have been taken received in August, 1985 request from to ensure availability of synthetic iibres/yarn Pithoragarh Gramin Bank for opening at reasonable prices : branches at eight centres namely at Paleta, Gurna, Dhunaghat, Lohaghat, Champawat (i) In the synthetic sector, new capacity Town, Baluwakot, Dharchula Town and has been licensed. Mowani.

Out of the above eight centrcs RBI had (ii) Government have extended conces- allowed the Pithoragarh Gramin Bank to sions in fiscal levies on certain man-made open branches at four centres namely tibres/yarn. Paleta, Gurna, Baluwakot and Mowani as these centres c onformed to the norms laid (iii) Imports of important man-made down under the branch licensing policy for fibres and yarns have been kept under 1985-90. O.L. • Reserve Bank of India has reported that Pithoragarh Gramin Bank has again approa- Raising the Issue of Development of ched the Reserve Bank in April 1986 for Nuclear Weapons by Israel at IAF.A opening branches at six centrcs. As Reserve Conference Bank of India has subsequently received a list of 28 identified centres from the State 1830. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDJN : Government of Uttar Pradesh for opening Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS bank branches in Pithoragarh district, the be pleased to state : allotment of eligible centres and the allocation of branches to the Pithoragarh Gramin (a) whether Government have raised the Bank out of such eligible centres would be issue of nuclear weapon by Israel at the done by Reserve Bank of India in accor- International Atomic Energy Agency Con- dance with the branch licensing policy for ference held in Vienna ; the period 1985*90. * (b) whether Government have taken the [English] matter bilaterally with the nuclear weapon Price of Synlhctic Fibre States for taking proper action against Israel ; and 1829. SHRI MURL1DHAR MANE : Will the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased (c) if so, the reaction of nuclear weapon to state : States ? 213 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether periodical review is made MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS regarding the observance of these guidelines (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) At its by the bank authories in this regard ? 30th session in Vienna, (Sept. 29 Oct. 3, 1986) the General Conference of the Inter- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN national Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI, considered, among other things, the subject JANARDHANA POOJARY) : The Integra- of Israel’s nuclear threat. Intervening in ted Rural Development Programme (IRDP) the debate on the subject, the Permanent is the major bank credit linked programme Representative of India to the IAEA said : for the persons living below the poverty line. “The growing capability of Israel in the Detailed guidelines/instructions have been nuclear field constitutes a serious threat to issued to the banks both by Government and peace and security, sincc the adds an Reserve Bank of India (RBI) regarding grant ominous and new dimension to its capability of loans under IRDP and matters related to destablize or dominate the region” . thereto. (b) and (c) The matter has not figured in bilateral discussions with any of the (b) The guidelines and instructions nuclear weapon States. issued under IRDP are revised periodically in the light of experience and the need for implementing the programme more effec- Criteria for Import of Rubber tively. Quite recently, banks have been once again advised about the need for following 1831. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the these guidelines scrupulously. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : Mini India Theme Park for Pathiramanal in Kerala (a) the criteria adopted by Government for import of rubber ; j 1833. PROF. K.V. THOMAS : SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHO- (b) whether the quantum for import of THAMAN : Will the Minister of TOURISM rubber during 1986-87 has been fixed ; be pleased to state : (c) if so, the details thereof ; and (a) whether Kerala Government have (d) if not. the reasons for delay ? sent a proposal to start Mini India Theme Park at Pathiramanal in Kerala ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the decision taken thereon ? MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) to (d) Rubber is imported THE MINISTER OF TOURISM keeping in view the demand— supply gap as (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) : (a) and (b) The reviewed from time to time in consultation Government of Kerala had forwarded a with the Rubber Board, Department of proposal for financial assistance to the tune Industrial Development and DGTD. For of Rs. 50.00 lakhs to start a Mini India the year 1986-87 requirement of imported Theme Park at Pathiramanal in Kerala. The rubber was assessed at 40,000 tonnes. Ministry of Tourism had examined the proposal and suggested that a major share of Guidelines Re-grant of Loans to Persons the finance involved should be contributed Living below Poverty Line by the Slate Government/Private Sector/NRL- It has been proposed that the Ministry of 1832. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the Tourism would provide assistance for the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : construction of a restaurant and provision of boats etc. (a) whether specific guidelines and instructions are issued to the nationalised There has been no response from the banks for granting loans to the persons living State Government so far, in respect of this below the poverty line ; and proposal. 215 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 216

Seizure of Smuggled Goods Besides, the trends of smuggling and at Airports seizures made at the airports are kept under constant review for taking appropriate 1834. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD remedial action as warranted. SINGH : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : Stringent action is taken against persons found involved in smuggling activities both (a) the total value and particulars of departmental^ as well as through prosecu- smuggled goods seized at Delhi Airport from tion in Courts. Apart from confiscation of the employees of the Indian Airlines, Air goods involved and the imposition of India and other Government Departments personal penalties, preventive detention under during 1984 to October 1986 ; and the COFEPOSA Act is also resorted to in appropriate cases. (b) the steps Government have taken to check the smuggling activities at the airports Fall in Value of Rupee in the country ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1835. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI SIN G H : W ill the Minister of FINANCE JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The total be pleased to state : value and particulars of smuggled goods seized at Delhi Airport from the employees (a) whether the value of rupee has of the Indian Airlines, Air India and other considerably gone down and is progressively on the decline ; and Government Departments during 1984 to 1986 (upto October) is furnished below : (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken (Value : Rs. to compensate salaried persons and mitigate in lakhs) hardship to unemployed and people below poverty line ? Particulars of 1984 1985 1986 (upto employees Octobcr) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Indian JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The value Airlines 0.58 17.06 of rupee worked out as a reciprocal of the Air India 1.22 2.70 Consumer Price Index for Industaial Workers (1960= 100) (CPI) has been changing from Other Govern- year to year according to the - movement of ment depart- the CPI. A rise in the CPI means a fall in ments 0.01 9.42 the value of the rupee and vice-vcrsa. The increase in CPI in recent years was 5.0 per The goods seized mainly consist of gold, cent in 1984-85 and 8.9 per cent in 1985-86. wrist watches electronic equipments and medicinal powder. (b) Government employees and employees in the public sector and local bodies are (b) The drive aga inst smuggling activi- paid dearness allowance so as to partly ties at the airports has been intensified. A compensate them for the rise in the cost of separate set of Air Intelligence Officers are living. Similar arrangements also exist in posted in the airport to discreetly watch the respect of employees in the organised sectors. movements of passengers and their baggages. For unorganised labour, minimum wages are Further, anti-smuggling equipments such as periodically reviewed taking into account metal detectors X-ray baggage scanners, etc. various factors including increase in the cost are also used to detect concealment of con- of living. The interests of the weaker sections trabands on person/inside baggage/cargo. are safeguarded by the supply of highly subsidised foodgrains under special schemes The scheme of rewards to informers1 and and through larger allocations for various Government servants has also been anti-poverty programmes. liberalised. 217 Written Answers . KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 2 18

Position of Flow of Money insists that at least 60 per cent of investment credit under schematic lending should go for J836. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD small and marginal farmers and other weaker SINGH : Will the Minister of FINANCE sections. Further other concessional terms be pleased to state : such as lower down payment, lower rate of interest and longer repayment period etc. (a) whether it is a fact that flow of arc stipulated by NABARD for financing money in the country is poor ; small and marginal farmers under schemes for development of agriculture and allied (b) if so. the details thereof ; and activities.

(c) steps Government propose to take to Identification of Tourism Potentialities improve the position of flow of money ? in the States

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1838. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU ; Will THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) No, Sir. state : i (b) and (c) Do not arise. (a) whether Government have identified the States which have a very high tourism Benefit to Small and Marginal Farmers potential ; from Banking Service (b) if so, the names of the States ; 1837. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH ; Will the Minister of FINANCE (c) the steps taken to develop tourism be pleased to state : in each of these States so f a r ; and

(a) whelher Government have conducted (d) the steps being taken to exploit fully a study on the performance of banking the potential in these States during the service in the country for the benefit of the Seventh Plan ? small and marginal farmers ; THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (b) if so, the details thereof ; and (MUFTI MOHD. SAYEED) ; (a) to (d) The Department of Tourism in consultation (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? with the State Governments/Union Terri- tories have identitied tourists centres in all THE MINISTER OF STATE JN States/Union Territories for integrated THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI development in a phased manner with the. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) combined resources of Centre, State and The Committee to Review Arrangements for Private Sectors. Schemes for development Institutional Credit for Agriculture and of infrastructure at tourist centres are taken Rural Development (CRAFICARD) appoint- up in consultation and coordination with ed by the Reserve Bank of India at the- the State Governments/Union Territories instance of the Government of India has in keeping in view specific requirements of a its report submitted in 1981 dealt, inter alia, particular tourist centre. with certain aspects of banking service for the benefit of small and marginal farmers. During the Seventh Five Year Plan the In pursuance of the recommendations of steps being taken for development of tourism CRAFICARD, National Bank for Agricul- include selective approach for development ture and Rural Development (NABRAD) of infrastructure at centres of tourist interest has been established by the Government of in consultation with State Governments, India. The short-term credit limit for promotion of domestic tourism development Agricultural purposes sanctioned by of Beach Resorts, improvement of facilities NABRAD is subject to a condition that at for Himalayan tracking and Water Sports, least 20 per cent of the limit should be preservation of National Heritage areas, utilised by central cooperative banks for floodlighting or monuments, development of small and marginal farmers. NABARD also Buddhist Tourism, Construction of Yatrikas/ 219 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 220

Dharamshalas at Pilgrim centres, improve- process improvement, product diversification, ment in the quality of surface transport design development and quality upgrada- facilities, development of Wild Life Tourism, tion. professionalisation of services in tourism and travel industry, production of quality Export of Silk publicity material and increased overseas promotional efforts and publicity. 1840. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will the Export of Coir Goods Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to state,:

1839. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will (a) whether it is a fact that Indian silk the Minister of TEXTILES be pleased to have good demand in world market ; state : (b) if so, the steps taken to export value, (a) the total amount received from the added silk items so as to compete with the export of coir goods during the past two silk goods manufacturer in Western Europe years ; and other parts of the world ; and

(b) whether it is a fact thatour coir (c) the details thereof ? goods cannot stand the competition from synthetic material in the international THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN market ; THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes Sir. (c) whether this has seriously alTected our export ; and (a) and (c) The following steps have (d) if so, the steps taken to lind new been taken to enable Indian exporters to markets as well as improve the quality of compete in international markets ; coir products so as to be able to compete with synthetic goods ? (i) Cash Compensatory Support on silk items has been extended for a further THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN period of three years from 1.7.1986. The THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI rate of Cash Compensatory Support on S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (d) value-added items like garments, made-ups According to figures made available by Coir and sarees has been raised from 10% Board, the exports of coir and coir pro- * to 12%. ducts amounted to Rs. 32.85 crores in i 1985-86 as against Rs. 26.41 crores in (ii) Facilities for duty-free import of 1984-85. The quantitative exports have raw materials for or against export of silk however suffered a slight decline due, among goods continue to be avai lable. Under the other reasons, to the competition from Replenishment scheme the replenishment cheaper synthetic substitutes in international percentage against export of 100% natural market. In order to improve thecompeti- silk goods has been raised from 20% to 30% tive strength of Indian Coir, the Government in the current Import-Export Policy. grants Cash Compensatory Support, Import Replenishment and Duty Drawback on (iii) The Indian Silk Export Promotion exports of certain coil products. Besides, Council, set up for handling export promo- the Coir Board has been undertaking a tion activities of silk items exclusively, has number of steps for promoting coir exports organised participation in important inter- which inter-alia include sending trade delega- national fairs and sponsored Trade Delega- tions, conducting market studies and market tions/Buyers Seller Meets to keep exporters research, releasing advertisements in foreign abreast of trends in international markets. trade magazines, distribution of publicity Assistance from Market Development Assis- material and participation in fairs in major tance Fund is also available to exporters markets. The Coir Board's on going R&D, for undertak ing export promotion training and extension progrnmmes aim at activities. 221 Written Answers Written Answers 222 KARTIKA» 23, 1908 (SAKA)

Kuwait Keenness to Invest in rndia (c) the increase in terms of value in the financial year 1985-86 in the export of 1841. SHRI VISHNU MODI : Will iron ore and other ores as compared to the Ihe Minister of FINANCE be pleased to year 1984-85 ? state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) whether the high-powered delegation THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI from Kuwait which visited India recently P. R. DASMUNSI) : (a) MMTC has enter- has shown its keenness in making investment ed into an agreement with Andhra Pradesh in India ; Mining Corporation for marketing the barytes produced by it. (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(b) MMTC provides need based finances (c) reaction of Government thereto ? to their export associates against their working capital requirements and for Th e MINISTER OF STATE IN purchase of mining machinery and equip- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ment. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) A four Member Kuwaiti Delegation visited (c) Export of Iron Ore and other ores India from 19th to 26th October, 1986. The handled by MMTC increased as follows ; main objective of the visit was to understand Government of India's policies and (Rs. Crores) Procedures, to look at investment possibilities and to have discussions with enter- Increase va lue in preneurs having specific projects requiring 1985-86 over finance. The members of the Delegation met 1984-85. senior Government officials as well as representatives of the Industrial Develop- 1. Iron Ore 31.0 ment Bank of India, Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, 2. Iron Ore concent-' Federation of Indian Export Organisations rates 21.6 etc. The members were apprised of the Govt.’s policies relating to investment from 3. Coal 6.0 Oil Exporting Developing Countries and the investment climate in India. They were also 4. Barytees 1.4 informed of the scope for investment in Jarge projects in India. 5. Chrome Ore 0.3

MMTC Agreement with A. P. Mineral 6. Bauxite 2.02 Development Corporation

1843. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY ; Export of Manganese Ore declined in Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas- value terms in 1985-86 over 1984-85 by Rs. ed to state : 4.8 crores.

(a) whether MMTC has entered into an Tax Relief to Refrigeration Industry agreement with Andhra Pradesh Mineral Development Corporation for the de\elop- 1844. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY : ment of Baritis mines in that State and their Wi II the Minister of FINANCE be pleased cvantual sale abroad : to state :

(b) whether the M.M.T.C. has also (a) whether there is heavy inventory planned for financial assistance to export in the Refrigeration Industry ; and oriented units dealing in mineral products with a view to increase the export of mine- (b) if so, whether there are any pro- rals and mineral products ; and posals to give tax relief to this industry ? 223 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 224

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN IBRD loans and US $ 13,828.2 million IDA THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI credits. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The stock of refrigerators until 30.9.1986 is (b) and (c) The amount of loans/credits lower than that in the corresponding period committed by the World Bank group in the in 1985. Bank's fiscal year 1986 was $ 2368.3 million as compared to US $ 2150.9 million in FY (c) Some proposa Is have been received 1983, US •> 2722.4 million in FY 1984 and for stimu lating the demand, h is not con- US * 2346.9 million in FY 1985. Country sidered expedient in public interest to give allocations of IDA/IBRD funds are made details of these proposals at this stage. by the World Bank within the framework of Decision would be taken at the appropriate total resourcesavailable and with regard time having regard to all the relevant con- to the competing claims of different siderations. countries. i

Proposal to Construct Hotels in Andhra Financing of Kerala's Schemes by LIC Pradesh 1847. PROF. K.V. THOMAS : Will 1845. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased state : to slate : (a) the amount allocated by Life (a) whether India Tourism Develop- Insurance Corporation for financing the ment Corporation has proposals to construct schemes of Kerala Government for 1986-87 ; hotels at Nagarjunsagar, Vimlipatam and Tirupati in Andhra Pradesh ; and (b) the amount released so far ; and 4 (b) if so, the details thereof ? (c) if no amount has been released, the reasons therefor ? , THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (MUFTI MOHD. SYED) ; (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) Does not arise. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The amounts allocated by Life Insurance C or-, Borrowings from World Bank poration for iinancing the relevant schemes in Kerala for 1986-87 are as under : 1846. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (Rupees in crores) to state : State S.E.B. S.R.T.C. Water Apex (a) the up-to-date outstanding borrow- Govt. Supply Co-op. ings from the World Bank by Government Housing & Sewe- Hous- of India ; Schemes rage ing Sche- Sche- (b) whether the assistance from the mes mcs World Bank for the year 1986 has been 6.21 7.58 2.66 6.00 10.00. cut down as compared to the previous years; and (b) and (c) LIC have issued loan offers (c) if so, the reasons therefor '! for all the Schemes except water supply and sewerage schemes. Loans will be released THE MINISTER OF STATE IN after the requirements in the loan offer are THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI complied with by the borrowing agencies.. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Uptill Applications for loans for water supply and 30th June 1986, the World Bank group has sewerage schemes-from Kerala Water and, committed assistance of US 24,520.1 Waste Water Authority are awaited by the mil lion comprising US £. 10,691.9 million LIC. 225 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 226

# . Export of Spices (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. 1848. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to (b) Does not arise. state : (c) No agreements have been signed , (a) whether export earnings from spice between the two countries since Prime have declined during 1986 ; Minister's visit to U.K.

(b) if so. the detai Is thereof ; and British Economic Aid * (c) the steps being taken to boost the 1850. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEK- export of spices ? WAD : Will the Minister of FINANCE be «» pleased to state : THE COMMERCE MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) the U.K. Government’s economic P.R. DASMUNSI) : (a) Export earnings aid to India for the last three years ; and from spices during last three years have shown an increasing trend. While exports (b) whether the economic aid from that of spices during 1984-85 were valued at country has declined recently ? Rs. 209 crores, the earnings during 1985-86 increased to Rs. 282.52 crores. Exports of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN spices during April-September 1986 have THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI been provisionally estimated to be valued at JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) The Rs. 183.35 crores as against exports valued total grant assistance from UK to India in at Rs. 53.06 crores during the corresponding the last three years is given below : period in 1985. Year Bilateral Special Total (b) Docs not arise. grants Projects (£. m) (£. m) grants (c) Spices Export Corporation Council (£. m) is taking various steps such as participating in fairs, exhibitions, sending trade delegations, 1983-84 92.5 2.8 95.3 arranging trade meetings, advertisement and publicity through media for increasing export 1984-85 110.6 23.2 133.8 of spices including pepper. A spices Board is going to be formed soon. 1985-86 115.9 11.1 127.0 Outstanding Issues between India & U.K. (b) Thus while the bilateral grant assistance has recorded a steady increase during 1849. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEK- this three year period, the total grant WAD : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL assistance is seen to have registered a 4.5% AFFAIRS be pleased to state : decline in 1985-86, in relation to the total assistance for 1984-85. (a) whether after the Prime Minister's visit to United Kingdom many outstanding Step? to Arrest Rising Prices issues between the two countries have been solved ; y 1851. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD : (b) if so. details thereof ; and SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (c) how many agreements have been to state : reached between the two countries ? (a) the AH India Consumers Price Index THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in September-October 1986 as against the MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS corresponding period last y ear; 227 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 228

(b) whether it showed a sharp rise in (c) the efforts made by various Export consumer price ; Promotion Councils and Boards to increase exports ; and (c) whether rising prices are causing great concern ; (d) whether any delegations/Missions are proposed to be sent abroad to explore (d) if so, factors which mainly accounted new trade outlets during the Seventh Plan for sharp rise in consumer price index and period ? the inflation rate ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the steps proposed to arrest rising MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. prices ? DASMUNSI) : (a) Government have not •received any such offers. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (b) Does not arise. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) All India Consumer Price Index (1960=100) in (c) Various steps like improvement in September, 1986 was 676 as against 619 in quality standards, participation in trade September, 1985. Index for October, 1986 fairs and exhibitions, conducting market is not available. surveys, exchange of commercial delegation etc. are being undertaken by the various (b) There was a 9.2 per cent increase in Export Promotion Councils and Boards to consumer price Index in September, 1986 increase exports of cr mmodities and items. > over September, 1985. (d) Yes, Sir. (c) and (d) Rise in consumer price index and the inflation rate is the cumulative Depreciation in Value of Rupee result of a variety of factors affecting the demand-supply position of items of con- 1853. SHRI CHJTTA MAHATA : sumption, weighted according to their value SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: in the consumption basket. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (e) The thrust of the Government's anti- inflationary policy continues to be on (a) whether it is a fact that there has effective demand and supply management been a fast depreciation in value of rupee including strengthening of public distribution against the major currencies recently ; and system, regulated releases of sugar and edible oils, enforcement of discipline and (b) if so, the steps taken to correct the mopping up of excess liquidity in the system. situation ? The Central Govt, has advised the State Governments to take strict action against THE MINISTER OF STATE IN traders including in profiteering hoarding THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI and black marketing. JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) The exchange rate of the rupee is fixed with Offer of Singapore Trade Development reference to the value of a basket of Board for Exporting Indian Goods currencies, mainly of countries which are India’s major trading partners. The 1852. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI : exchange rates between rupee and other Will the Minister of COMMERCE be currencies move upward or downward pleased to state : depending upon the fluctuations in the value of these currencies. In recent months, rupee (a) whether Singapore Trade Develop- has remained fairly stable vis-a-vis dollar ment Board has offered to export Indian and has depreciated against Yen etc. which goods as reported in the Economic Times in turn have strengthened against the dollar, dated 24th October, 1986-}— - in a regime of floating exchange rates, * • such frequent variations in exchange value (b) if so, the details thereof : of Rupee are not unusual. 229 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

4 Seizure of Gold and Narcotics (b) the particulars of the officials found involved and the action taken against them ? 1854. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN to state : THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) ; (a) The (a) the total quantum of smuggled gold total quantity of gold and narcotic drugs and narcotics seized by Government during (drug-wise), seized during the years 1983, the last three years; and 1984, and 1985 is given below :

(Quantity ; in Kgs)

Year Gold Heroin Opium Charas Ganja Morphine Mandrax tablets l ------■------1983 230 139 6592 6072 21,685 21 95

1984 524 203 7938 4368 21.207 29 1669

1985 2525 761 6839 10,312 66,313 125 745

(b) The particulars of the officials (b) The issue has been discussed at the including employees of airlines/Shipping Conference of Chief Ministers of all States Companies found involved in smuggling and Union Territories and again at the activities are given below ; meetings of Finance/Revenue Secretaries and Commissioners in-charge of Sales-tax 1983 1984 1985 1986 (uplo September) in all States and Union Territories and also at the meetings of Regional Councils 54 30 25 71 for Sales-tax and State Excise Duties at the zonal level but each State has justified its Stringent action is taken against all rate fixation on some ground or the other these fcund involved in smuggling activities and there has been no consensus amongst both departmentally as well as through the States and Union Territories. prosecution in Court of Law. Apart from imposition of penalties and confiscation of Collection of Taxes by China from Indian goods, in appropriate cases, preventive Nationals in Arunacba! Pradesh detention under the COFEPOSA Act is also resorted to. 1856. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Uniformity in Sales Tax pleased to state :

1855. DR. DATTA SAM ANT : Will (a) whether Government are aware the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to that the Chinese authorities are collecting state : taxes from the Indian citizens in Arunachal Pradesh where they had sneaked into (a) whether the issue of uniformity in Indian territory and built up a helipad ; sales tax has been discussed with State and Governments; and (b) if so, the details thereof and steps (b) if so. the views expressed by the being taken to save the Indians from the various State Governments ? harassment meted out to them at hands of Chinese intruders ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) Yes, THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL Sir. AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : 231 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Written Answers 232

(a) According to information available with week of September, 1986 made a mentiom Government, no tax has been paid by about his offer for a no-war pact with USA Indian citizens in Arunachal Pradesh to the with a view to ensure stability and peace Chinese authorities. in his country and for ensuring world peace in general ; and (b) Does not arise. (b) if so, the reaction of Government of Pakistan's Plan to Set Up * Base in India thereto ? Arabian Sea i THE MINISTER OF STATE Jm 1857. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS ; THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : be pleased to state : (a) and (b) Discussions held ith wthe Nicara- guan President were of a confidential (a) whether Government have any indi- nature. It is not appropriate or customary cation of the plans of Pakistan Government to disclose details of such discussions. to set up a base which would be capable of accommodating nuclear submarines in the External Commercial Borrowings during Arabian sea and particularly at Karachi ; Seventh Five Year Plan

(b) if so, the reaction of Government 1859. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- thereto ; and WARA RAO : SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: (c) whether Government have noticed DR. CHINTA MOHAN ; any leakage of these plans in the recent SHRI JAGANNATH PATNAIK : agreement between Pakistan and China on Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased nuclear weapons ? to state :

(a) whether a target has been lixed by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government for commercial borrowings THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL from abroad during the Seventh Five Year AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : Plan period ; (a) Government have seen reports that a nuclear submarine had visited Karachi port (b) if so, the details thereof ; and in March, 1986. Government also have (c) the terms and conditions at which reports that a Pakistan Foreign Office commercial borrowings from foreign countries spokesman said on October 22, 1986 that are proposed to be made ? nuclear power or nuclear weapon carrying ships were not barred from making port THE MINISTER OF STATE IN calls at Karachi. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c) (b) Government continues to maintain The Seventh Plan provides for a total flow, a constant vigil over all developments having at 1984-85 prices, of Rs. 20,900 crores over a bearing on the country's security. the Plan period, by way of net aid and other borrowings. This is inclusive of all (c) The Nuclear Cooperation Agree- net receipts on account of bilateral aid/ ment between China and Pakistan has so loans, multilateral loans and external com- far not been published. mercial borrowings. The terms and conditions of external commercial borrowings Nicaragua's Offer of No-War Pact vary depending upon the instruments used with USA and the timing of the borrowings.

1858. Sh RI ANAND SINGH : Will Voluntary Retirement by Income Tax the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be Officials pleased to state : 1860. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI (a) whether the Nicaraguan President KHAN : Will the Minister of during his visit to New Delhi in the 2nd FINANCE be pleased to state : 233 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

(a) the number of incomc-tax Commis- (d) steps taken by Government of India sioners and other officers in the Income-tax for the return of Chakma refugees safely t« Department who have sought voluntary the Chittagong hill tracts ? letirement since the operation cleansing was taken up by Government; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL (b) the number out of them permitted AFFAIRS (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : lo retire ; (a) Yes, Sir. (b) to (d) The question of the influx of (c) whether, besides permitting them to Chakma refugees into India has been dis- retire voluntarily any departmental or legal cussed with the Government of Bangladesh action has also been taken or proposed to on a number of occasions including with the be taken for their involvement in proven President of Bangladesh during his visit to corruption cases ; India in July, 1986. The Government of Bangladesh has undertaken to take action (d) If so, the details thereof ; and .to work out modalities for the early return of these refugees. (e) If not, the reasons therefor ? News Item Mute Labour niay.be Axed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Under Revival Scheme’ THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) From 1862. SHRI SANAT KUMAR July 1985, 14 Commissioners of Income-tax MANDAL ; Will the Minister of TEXTILES and 38 other officers of ,the Income-tax be pleased to state : Department have opted for voluntary retirement. (a) whether Government’s attention has been drawn to the news item captioned ‘Jute (b) Out of the above, 44 Officers (inclu- labour may be a\cd under revival scheme* ; ding 14 Commissioners of Income-tax) have appearing in the Business Standard since been permitted to retire. Calcutta edition dated 2 October, 1986 ;

(c) No, Sir. No cases of proven corrup- (b) if so, the facts of the case and tion charges aga inst them have come to whether cutting down the labour force is light. likely to be an integral part of the facelift scheme for the jute industry ; and (d) Does not arisa. (c) the measures proposed for the (e) Adequate evidence was not available rehabilitation of the labour force as a part to proceed against them on charges of of the total package being worked out for corruption. As such departmental or legal the rehabilitation and modernisation of jute action could not be taken. mills in W’est Bengal and Union Govern- ment’s involvement therein from the labour's Cliakma Influx into Tripura point of view ?

1861. SHRI BAJU BAN'RIYAN ; Will THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be THE MINISTRY OF TEXTILE (SHRI pleased to state : S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (c) With a view to revatalising the Jute Industry and (a), whether Government took up the giving a major thrust to the Modernisation matter of Chakma influx into Tripura with Programme, Govt, of India have created the Bangladesh Government; a Jute Modernisation Fund and have designated the Industrial Finance Corpora- (b) if so, the details thereof; tion of India as the Nodal Agency to admin- ' I ister the same. The scheme has becomt (c) the reaction of tke Bangladesh operative with effect from 1st November, Government thereon ; and 1986. A Monitoring Committee under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Textiles) has 235 Written Answers NOVEMBER 14, 1S86 Written Answers 236

been setup to review the progress of imple- 12.00 firs mentation of the scheme. All aspects relating to any such rationalisation as and when it [Translation] would arise are to be carefully looked into SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura)r on a unit to unit basis in close consultation Mr. Speaker. Sir, kindly listen to m e ...... and coordination with the Government of West Bengal according necessary priority to MR. SPEAKER : If you give in writing the labour interests. what you have told me. Loans for Setting up Portable Rice [English] * Mills to Farmers

We can get the information. N o 1863. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- problem. WARA RAO : Will the Minister ' of FINANCE be pleased to state : [Translation]

(a) whether loans will be made available SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Please to the farmers from the National Bank for listen to what I am telling you. Agriculture and Rural Development and Cooperative Institutions for setting up port- SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- able rice mills ; and bour) : W hat is the use of writing. It is good to express one's views here itself. (b) if so, the details thereof ? MR. SPEAKER ; I shall do it. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE SHRI [English] JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b) The National Bank for Agriculture and 1 can allow a Calling Attention. Rural Development (NABARD) provides refinance to the bank against their loans to SHRI AMAL DATTA : Parliament is the farmers for various economic activities not for writing. If I may say so. Parliament including setting up of Rice Mills. is for speaking.

NABARD provides refinance at 100% SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA ; There to the banks against their loans upto Rs.5 mills have declared lock out affecting lakhs in the case of individuals and without 15,000 workers. It is affecting jute growers any limit in the case of registered institutions also. (registered under Societies Registration Act, I860) and industrial cooperative societies MR. SPEAKER : That is why I say provided the unit is covered by the defini- that if you give me a Calling Attention tion of a small scale industrial unit. Margin notice, I will look into it. get the facts and money in the case of individuals and group come before you. of individuals is stipulated at 5% of the investment for loans upto Rs. 1 lakh and SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA ; The 10% for loans above Rs. 1 lakh. In the case facts are known, Sir. of registered institutions and cooperative* societies the margin money is prescribed at SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat); 10%. The banks are required to charge 12.5% The fact of lock out is not disputed. Three interest in the case of individuals and group mills have been locked out, affecting of individuals and 9% in the case of register- 15.C00 workers...... , ed institutions and industria 1 cooperative societies. The repayment period in the case (Interruptions) of individuals and group of individuals is 10 years while in the case of registered MR. SPEAKER : I will take action institutions and industrial cooperative it is accordingly...... ' .< between 3 to 10 years. * i .»• * k ' (Interruptions) 237 Written Answers KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Papers Laid 238

SHRI 1NDRAJIT GUPTA : Mr. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY Mirdha should make a statement. (Katwa) : You don’t give your ruling in the House, Sir. MR. SPEAKER : Gupta Ji, We can have a Calling Attention.- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : These matters cannot be disposed of in the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Yes, Sir. Chamber.

MR. SPEAKER : That is what I say. MR. SPEAKER : That is how they arc That is what my action will be. I cannot always disposed of and they will be dispos- take any other action. ed of.

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Thank [ Translation] you, Sir. MR. SPEAKER : Why are you insisting SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Good. when 1 am going to allow this ? What I had said, that still stands. I only say after MR. SPEAKER : I can. But let me thinking carefully. I never say a wrong have the facts. thing.

- SHRI AMAL DATTA : No writing. (Interruptions) Sir, because Parliament is for speaking. \English\ (Interruptions) MR, SPEAKER ; Shri Poojary. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- "e nagar) : We tabled . a Privilege Motion against hon. Minister Mr. Mirdha for giving a wrong reply .to a question. 12.01 hrs.

[Translation] PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

t MR. SPEAKER I You might have got [English] its reply. Even then...... Notification making amendment to SHRI S. JAJPAL REDDY : We have Notification under Finance Act, Notiti- not got your ruling, Sir. cations under Wealth-tax Act and Review on Deposit Insurance and Credit MR. SPEAKER ; Please 1 istcn to me. Guarantee Corporation, Bombay for You will get the reply. If that does not period ending 31.12.85. satisfy you, you may discuss the matter with me. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI [English] JANARDHANA POOJARY) : I beg to lay on the Table : SHRI S. JAIPAL' REDDY : My hum- ble request, Sir, is that your ruling coupled (1) A copy of Notification No. G.S.R. with our notice be read out in the House. 1188(E) (Hindi and English versions) •* published in Gazette of India dated- the [Translation] 6th November, 1986 together with an explanatory memorandum making certain ' . MR. SPEAKRR : No, No. amendment to Notification No. 3/FTT/ 86 dated the 15th October, 1986 so as to w * [English] substitute the work's ‘and the members • « .• . *• i « of delegations holding the status of It is never done. Ministers in their countries’ by the words “and the members and other officials of 239 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Papers Laid 240

the delegations" under section 41 of the (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO) : Sir, on Finance Act, 1979. behalf of Shri K. Natwar Singh I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the following [Placed in Library, See No. LT-3206/86] Notifications (Hindi and English versions) under-sub-section (4) of section 15 of the (2) A copy each of the following Notifica- Territorial Waters, Continental Shelf, Exclu- tions (Hindi and English versions) issued sive Economic Zone and other Maritime under clause (xvi) of sub-section (1) of Zones Act, 1976 : * section 5 of the Wealth-tax Act, 1957 : 1 * (1 S.O. 429(E) published in Gazette of (i) S.0.501(E) published in Gazette of India dated the 18th July, 1986 declaring India dated the 22nd August, 1986 the areas in the continental shelf or, as specifying (i) 7-Year “ 14 per cent the case may be. in the exclusive econo- Secured Redeemable Non-Conver- mic zone of India where the installa- tible Bonds (‘A’— Series)1' issued by tions, structures and platforms, the Messers Natiinal Hydroelectric coordinates of which are given in the Power Corporation Limited and Schedule annexed to the notification are (ii) u-Year “14 per cent Secured situate and the areas extending upto five Redeemable Non-Convertible hundred metres from the said installa- Bonds” issued by Messrs, Neyveli tions, installations, structures and plat- Lignite Corporation Limited, as forms as designated areas for the debentures for the purposes of the purposes of sub-section(5) of section 6 said clause. and sub-section (6) of section 7 of the said Act. (ii) G.S.R. (*‘ 918(E) published in Gazette of India dated the 27th (2) S.O. 435(E) published in Gazette of June, 1986 specifying (i) 7-Year India dated the 23rd July, 1986 prohibit- “14 per cent Secured Redeemable ing entry of any ship within the desig- Non-Convertible Bonds (A series)" nated areas except Indian Naval ships issued by Messrs Indian Telephone and Coast Guard ships or other ships Industries Limited, Bangalore in 1986 and (ii) 7-Year “ 14 per cent which are authorised in writing by the Sccrctary to the Government of India in Secured Redeemable National the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Thermal Power Corporation Bods- Gas or any competent authority notified 1986, 1st Series" as debentures for by him in this regard. the purposes of the said clause.

[Placed in Library, See No. LT-3209/861 [Placed in Library, See No. LT 3207/86]

(3) A copy of the ’Review (Hindi and Notification under Agricultural and English versions) by. the Government on Processed Food Products Export Deve- the working of the Deposit Insurance lopment Authority, 1985 and Credit Guarantee Corporation, Bombay, for the year ended the 31st THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE December, 1985. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI) : I beg to lay on the Table [Placed in Library, See No. LT-3208/86] a copy of the Agricultural and Processed Food Products Export Development Autho- Notifications under Territorial Waters, rity Rules, 1986 (Hindi and English versions) Continental Shelf, Exclusive Economic published in Notification No. S.O. 652(E) in Zones and other Maritime Zones Act. 1976 Gazette of India dated the 3rd September, 1986 under section 34 of the Agricultural THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Processed Food Products Export Deve- MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS lopment Authority, 1985.

‘The Annual Report was laid on the [Plated in Library, See No. LT-3210/861 Table on 25th April* 1986. 241 Message from k KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rajya Sabha 242

Corrigenda to Annual Accounts etc. of [Translation] Central Silk Board for J984-85 SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Sir...... (Interruptions) MINISTRY OF TEXTILES (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : I beg to lay on the MR. SPEAKER : Your Motion will be Table : taken up.

(1) A copy of the Co Corrigendum (Hindi [English] and English versions) to the Annual Accounts of Central Silk Board for the I have already taken action. year 1984-85. [ Translation] (2) A copy of the (a Corrigendum (Hindi and English versions to the Statement I shall discuss it with you later on. showing reasons for delay in laying the Annual Accounts of the Central Silk (Interruptions) Board for the year 1984-85. i p [English] [Placed in Library, See No. LT-321T/86] SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nalgonda) : Sir. the accusation about our hon. Chief Minister has gone on the 12.03 hrs. records of SANSAD.

MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA [Translation]

[English] MR. SPEAKER : It will come to you.

SECRETARY GENERAL : Sir. 1 have [English] to report the following message received from the Secretary-General of Rajya Sabha : SHRI M. RAC.HUMA REDDY : This is a private letter. What can we do with “In accordance with the provisions of it ? The explanation should go on the rule 111 of the Rules of Procedure and records of the Hou^e. Conduct of Business in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed to enclose a copy of the [ Translation] Indecent Representation of Women b (Prohibition) Bill. 1986 which has been MR. SPEAKER : \ ou may move under passed by the Rajya Sabha at its sitting Direction 115. held on the 12th Novenibe r, 1986."* * [English]

INDECENT REPRESENTATION OF SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- WOMEN (PROHIBITION) BILL nagar) : The hon. Minister of Andhra AS PASSED BY RAJYA SABHA Pradesh Government has gone»*n record.

[English] SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : Let the explanation of the Minister also go on SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I lay the record. oh the Table the Indecent Representation of W'omen (Prohibition) Bill, 1986, as passed MR.* SPEAKER : That is why 1 say by Rajya Sflbha. that you should come under Dilection 115 again. No problem. W'e can solve that. We have got some rules and we can go (({.The Annual Accounts and Statement according to them...... of Reasons fot delay were laid on the » Table on 2nd May, 1986. ‘Interruptions/ 243 Message from NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rajya Sabha 244

MR. SPEAKER : What is bothering [Translation] you Sir ? 4 MR. SPEAKER : 1 have been told that SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : presently the matter is SUB-JUDICE 1 will Sir, about the Union ^arbide selling their talk to you later on. assets...... Y Interruptions) [English] * MR. SPEAKER : Nothing doing. We . will find out. You talk to me. They say it is SUB- JUDICE or something. But I will have to [Translation] find out......

It can be done again. (Interruptions)

[English] MR. SPEAKER : 1 know, i have been sharing the concern with you. SHRI SURESH KURUP : Last time we discussed...... SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : 1 appreciate your sharing our concern but what (Interruptions) about the Government doing something ?

MR. SPEAKER : We will always discuss MR. SPEAKER : They will also do.

what is important. Nothing will be left. • THE MINISTER OF HUMAN SHRI SURESH KURUP : You should RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT AND ask the Minister to make a statement at MINISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY least because it is a very serious matttfr. WELFARE (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO) : We also share. MR. SPEAKER : Whatever is serious we will get discussed. Don't worry. MR. SPEAKER : No problem... ¥■ SHRT SURESH KURUP t They are (Interruptions) sel ling, their assets. » SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE S-HRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : (Balpur) ; Your concern is not being res- You write about that matter, Sir. Union ponded to by them. t Carbide are selling their assets. * [„Translation] MR. SPEAKER : I will ask them. You can also wrote to them. No problem. We /MR. SPEAKER : It will be done again. will'ask them. ♦ • [English] SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA ; We* raised it. You said you will ask them but after SHRI • INDRAJIT GUPTA : One that nothing happened...... American company is able to reduce this whole Government to absolute paralysis. • (Interruptions) What is this ? . / I MR. SPEAKER We can take action, MR. SPEAKER : We will do it. • Sir. [Translation] SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : They arc incapable of doing anything. They cannot When 1 have told you once— get even an injunction on the company;...... [English] (Interruptions I. That 1 will do it, then—: # 245 Agreement Reached on KARTJKA ,23, 1908 (SAKA) Demands of Jr. Dr. Delhi 246.

[Translation^* It is desirable that the recruitment of t doctors to this programme is through the Why are you wasting my time by inter- normal channels of Government recruitment rupting time and again. and based on the principles adopted for a (Interruptions) similar recruitment. At the same time < [English] there might have to be some measure of

\T flexibility in {he scheme to allow the SHRI AMAL DATTA : (Diamond students to acquire postgraduate qualifica- Harbour) : It happened before the last tions and training and also serve in the election and another election will be over. various specialities with a view to help the hospitals and col leges, discharge their func- MR. SPEAKER : Shri P.V. Narasimha tions effectively and efficiently. Rao. •' Tax of the Agreement

12.05 hrs., ‘ . The Junior Doctors’ Federation of Delhi and Associations of other Central Medical STATEMENT RE : AGREEMENT REACHED ON THE DEMANDS Institutions welcome the Goveriimant pro- OF JUNIOR DOCTORS’ * , posal to undertake a review of the Resi- FEDERATION OF DELHI dency Scheme with a vi&v to placing it on more sound lines so that the discontent of [English] the Resident Doctors could be removed and the functioning of the Scheme improved to THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RE- benefit the patients who throng our SOURCES DEVELOPMENT AND MINIS- hospitals. TER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA The Junior Doctors' Federation of* RAO) : Honourable Members would recall Delhi and Associations of other Central my statements given in the House on 10th Medical .Institutions arc gratified to note November and 13th November, 1986 on the th a r: t • resident doctors strike. I had informed the House that we were continuing our a) The Junior Residents/House Surgeons efforts to find a mutually agreeable solution will be paid respectively Rs. 2400, Rs. and come to an understanding with the 2475, Rs. 2550/- per month in the first, striking junior doctors. I am happy to second and third year of their junior inform’the Honourable Members that we ., residency. This will be inclusive of all have reached a settlement with the Junior allowances including NPA. They will Doctors’ Federation of Delhi and Associa- be eligible for admissible CCA and tions of other Central Medical1 Institutions HRA. They will be sanctioned DA on late last night. A copy of the agreement 90 per cent of the remuneration . 0 reached with the Junior Doctors’ Federation is placed on the Table of the House. The b) Senior Residents will be paid respectively strike has been called off with immediate Rs. 30C0, Rs. 3100, Rs. 3200 in the effect. I take this opportunity to thank first, second and third year. This will the Honourable Members for the under- be inclusive of all allowances including standing they showed while we were jengaged P.G. allowance and NPA. They will be in working out a solution. I am also eligible for admissible CCA and HRA. grateful to the public of Delhi for putting They will be sanctioned D.A, as admissi- up with the inconvenience for a few days. ble on 90 per cent of their consolidated My thanks also go to the media, public remuneration. individuals and the junior doctors in helping us in the process. c) The revised remuneration approved for the Junior and Senior Residents wi II be As mentioned in my statement to the disbursed to the Resident. Doctors House on 10th November, 1986, we will expeditiously. The sanction of this review the entire residency scheme at the remuneration will be with effect from earliest.# • J-l-1986. The revised CCA and HRA 247 Agreement Reached on NOVEMBER 14.1986 Calling Attention of 248 Demands o f Jr. Dr. Del hi Urgent Putfiic Imp.

will be sanctioned with elTect from Finance Minister because they hgve resolved 1-10-1986. the crisis of Junior Resident Doctors who j were on strike* d) These remunerations will be subject to revision as anti when remuneration of other relevant Government servants are 12.08 hrs. revised including’ revision made in the Fourth Pay Commission recommenda- CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER tions. * OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE, e) The JDF and Associations of other [English] Central Medical institutions request- the. t * # Government to consider the sanction of Reported sharp increase in clandestine emoluments of specialists to Senior deposits made by Indians in foreign Residents. hanks f) The JDF requests the Government to SHRI MOHD. MAHFoOZ ALI KHAN consider the period of Residency Scheme (Etah) : I call the attention of the Minister for purpose of pension, retirement of Finance to the following matter Of benefits, sanction 5f advance increments urgent public importance and request that in lieu of the Residency service and he may make a statement thereon : relaxation of age limit to the extent of Residency Service. ‘The situation arising out of the reported sharp increase in the clandestine ») There will not be any victimisation of deposits made by Indians in foreign all those who participated in the strike. banks and the steps taken by the Thosfc who had been suspended/whose Government in t he matter.' services have been terminated on account of strike will be reinstated. If any THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI criminal cases^re pending against tfiem V1SHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : The on account of strike, they will be subject of the Calling Attention Motion withdrawn. today is an extremely important one for the economic health of our country. Of all h) The strike period w.jll be condoned with the economic crimes committed against the the concurrence of MCI and concerned nation, illegal siphoning of foreign exchange Universities for academic 'purposes. is probably the most serious, as it weakens the country, undermines our efforts at self- IiijView of the above, the JDFand reliance and reduces our ability to cope ‘ associations of other central medical institu- with external problems. tions have decided to call otT the strike and , join duty immediately. As the House is aware, recently certain reports have appeared referring to a study Sd/-P.P. Chauhan/I3th made by a stall member of the IMF on Nov., 1986, Joint non-resident bank deposits and fiduciary Secretary Ministry of deposits with Swiss Banks. This study Health & FW Govern- shows that in 1984 such deposits from all ment of India m countries, outside Switzerland, amounted to 342,575 million Swiss Francs. Sd/- (Dr. Lokesh Kumar)/ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : 13th Nov\ 1986 In rupees, Indian currency, how much docs Convenor, J.D.F. t it come to ? • 4 * . DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI [ Translation] (Samba Ipur) : I must congratulate you, Prime Minister. Health Minister and MR. SPEAKER * Multiply it by six. 249 Calling Attention of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Urgent Public Imp. 250

[English] country so that incentives to keep money abroad are reduced. SHRI VISHWANATH < PRATAP SINGH: J shall get it convened and let I would like to re-assurc the House that you know. • % the Government is determined to work • relentlessly to eliminate this evil. MR. SPEAKER : Swiss Franc is equal to Rs. 7.80. [Translation]

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP • SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN SfNGfa : This study estimates that nearly (Etah) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am 4 very 49.1% of such deposift in 1984 were held grateful to the hon. Finance Minister for by residents of Middle East countries. 6.5% presenting the data and for giving details by residents of Latin American countries, of the proposed action proposed to be taken 5.3% by residents of Asian countries and in this matter.

3.5% by residents of African countries. For m India, the estimate is that 1,397 million This is not a new thing. But it is unfor- Swiss Francs, amounting to 0.6% of total tunate that all these things have been expos- such deposits, in 1984, were held in this ed through the I.M.F. reports. Why these from. This amount of 1,937 million Swiss things did not come to the notice of the Francs is a little more than Rs. 900 Government earlier? This practice of remitt- crores------between Rs. 900 crores and Rs. ing money abroad has been going on for 1000 Crores. a long time, Who arc the people remitting money, which arevthe. agencies dealing- in The Government has been aware

SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI MR. SPEAKER : You might have KHAN : ‘Beiman’ is a translation of dis- heard un Urdu couplet : honest. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Is it unpar- DER KI AANE MEIN AAPNE. liamentary to term such ^ people as ‘beiman’ ? MAGAR SHUKR HUA PH1R BHI AAYE> MR. SPEAKER : You are yourself • » comprehending this. There is nothing to SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI object,. KHAN : Mr. Speaker, Sir, you ha've expressed my views. *It is true ; ‘Better (Interruptions' late than never’.

SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Aimora) : However, you have enacted law and it ‘Besman’ is a fit word. Even ‘Maha-beiman’ is a matter of pleasure that you are goingr can be used for them. to enforce it strictly. People of othen countries are using our money for their ow_ SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI benefit. They are being given importe KHAN : ‘Beiman’ is an Urdu word. There- export licences and they are using th^ fore, I have myself used the word, dis- money thus earned in other countries angy honest. are also depositing it there. If that rnonan' „ is remitted to our country, the people c^e So you are encouraging the already be raised above the poverty line. T ^ increasing dishonest business. You issue situation in our country at present is su import and export licences to them and that the poor are not getting drinking wate ’ these very persons remit money to foreign clothes to wear and houses to live in countries. Their modus operandi is that they According to the report of the Commission over-invoice while importing the goods and there are at least 75 such industrial Houses under-invoice at the time of exporting them, in the country which have cornered the in this way they misappropriate fore ign *weaIth of the country. This thing should exchange and deposit it in th£ foreign banks. be done away with and this wealth should These people are the arch enemies of the be used for the benefit of the poor. A law country. Stern punishment' should lie to this effect should be enacted and enforced awarded to them. strictly. t . I had said yesterday also that laws are Now the question arises how to extract cnactcd in the Parliament but they* arc not information from the foreign banks ? We implemented. When the Commission sub- understand tf»at the banks of Switzerland do mitted its report, the hon. Finance Minister not reveal the accounts Of businessmen-. brought an amnesty scheme under Foreign They keep everything secret. One way to Regulation Act and he gave one more know about these.accounts is to submit a chance to those dishonest persons to declare particular name, say, Mahfooz AJi Khan to their assets and liabilities by 31st ‘Marfch them and ask them to tell about the money 1987. Raids should be carried out-against deposited in his name ? Though I am a them and the money seized. Such facilities poor man I am equating myself with them. should be given to those who have migrated I would also urge that the Ministers and to other countries so that they may return M.Ps should be asked to declare their assests to India along with the money. Which may and liabilities. I should be excused for help in improving the economy of our saying this because I am not mentioning any country. particular name. You go to their houses. You will find that they 4iave constructed’ SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP palatial buildings and own cars. All these SIN G H ; We have offered these facilities. things should be investigated. Investigation should also be conducted to know as to SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI how the M.Ps, M.L.As, Ministers, ex-M.Ps KHAN : But the facilities have been given and ex-M.L.As have* amassed # such a huge late. wealth. 253 Calling Attention of KARTIKA 23, L908 (SAKA) Urgent Public Imp. 254

.MR. SPEAKER ; We should enact a SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI* Jaw to make it obligatory that all these KHAN ; Sir, believe it, this area is very people should declare their wealth. backward and crime proul area. The Government is neither setting up any SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI factory there nor is there any institution in KHAN : Yes, we should enact a law under that area. I would request that the Govern- which M.P.s, M.L.As and Ministers should ment may not allot funds under any other •declare their assets before as well as after head to us but do allot us some funds from their election and should infohn about the the money you will be seizing from these source- through which the assets have been dishonest businessmen or rich people. acquired. There are a number of instances Their money is lying in the foreign banks. to show that previously people had modest You may give us some money out of it. means but now they have bungalows and We will not demand more from yo.u... palatial buildings. Previously fhey used to go on bicycles but now they have fiat cars. (Interruptions) Wherefrom then have they got so much wealth ? MR. SPEAKER : * Now conclude.

MR. SPEAKER : Please conclude early. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN : We are poor people. The legis- SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI lation you have brought should be imple- KHAN : This money is not lying in the mented strictly. This tendecy is, increasing banks of Switzerland only. According to and every one is trying to deposit his money my information Rs. 25,000 crores are lying in the foreign banks. outside, * « SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur) ; SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Finance SINGH : Tell us where that money is Minister has expressed concern over- the lying ? deposits made in foreign banks from out country and it is natural that people should SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI be worried about this trend. In the news- KHAN : Listen and note down. 1 am papers, reports have appeared that during telling you— it is lying in the banks of Hong the last three years there has been increase Kong, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Manhattan! in such clandestine deposits. Such deposits and Bermuda. are not confined to Swiss Banks only. As has been told just now, Indian mtfney on AN HON. MEMBER : Not in Etah ? large scale has been deposited in the banks of Hongkong and America a Iso’ There are SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI no two opinions that tfie hon. Minister of KHAN : Etah is the most i backward area. Finance has launched a relentless war to T often pleased its case. Hon. Finance bring out the black money. The cflect of Minister knows about Etah very well. I these efforts is clear from the fact tfcat would request for allotment of some funds to people have got panicked and have started Etah. The money thus mopped up may thinking of taking their money out of the be released for Etah. country and some of them in fact already deposited it abroad. People have deposited SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP or are thinking of depositing their money SINGH : Shri Mahfooz Ali, banks hesitate abroad with the same spead with which Ihe to open their branches there. Finance Minister has made saids on them. So far as the question of curbing the black SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI money is concerned... KHAN : It is not so. You have been the Chief Minister of that State. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH : Sir, I may give the information MR. SPEAKER : Shri Mahfooz Ali that the report of the IMF is for the period Khan, no other place is as safe as the place upto 1984 whereas the* panic you ate to which Shri Mahfooz Ali Khan belongs. refering to is after 1985. *255 Calling Attention of NOVEMBER 14. 1986 Urgent Public Imp. • 256

t SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : That means tion could be gathered about the bank, Iwas under the wrong impression. Your accounts of such peoples ? efforts ha\e made no .impact on them. * Thirdly, so far as foreign money through SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP commission, under-invoicing or other means SINGH : This report is for the period upto is concerned'the biggest culprit is our Public 1984. Sector. The Public Sector imports gooefs worth crores £>f rupees and the officers SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : f thought charge commission thereon which is that between 84 to 86 there was sharp dcpos itcd in the foreign banks. The same increase in it but the question now is that is the position with the Private Sector. how will you stop it ? You are adopting .You are aware that in under-invoicing stick and carrot policy. ,1 want to give an actual prices are somewhat different from example of Shri Lalit Mohan Thapar. The those^ shown« in the invoice and it is this Thapar case has not only made fun of the difference that is diposited in the foreign Supreme Court, you will excuse me, but has banks. Therefore, it should' be controlled also mocked at you, Mr. Finance Minister. from here, and a begining should be made If I first steal and later on return the stolen with the Public Sector and the Private goods and apologise for the act, will * the Sector. In the export and import business, judge let me go ? Will he not send me to under the table commission is provided. the jail ? You will have to advise methods, to stop it. 1 hope that an able, sincere and devoted f Interruptions > person like you, if willing can find a solution to the problem. Moreover, a man like me will steal V property worth one hundred, fifty or one [English] thousand rupees and for that it is possible that the judge may excuse me also but if the SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY people who have evaded taxes worth crores (Nalgonda) : Sif. the International Monetary of rupees apologise, pay taxes subsequently'--- expert have noticed a sudden jump in the and that too will be known only say after capital flight from' India. Recently, one two or three years as to how much tax they survey report says that Rs. 1333 crores are w ill pay, though a Minister'like you will deposited in Swiss Bank till now, But definitely realise money from th e m -“will people say it is tip of the Ice-berg. In they be allowed to go scotfree ? Whatever Hong-Kong, New Jersey and other places is under your jurisdiction, for that you are the deposits are amounting to Rs. 20,000 to adopting a strict policy. Therefore, I will 30X00 ciores,’as per the reports. It is more not go into details $n that because time or less equal to our foreign debts. This is the is also short. I would like to submit only situation vvHerc«we are. As my hon. friend this much that there should not be any let has said, people arc starvirig here and crftres up,in the strictness that has so far been of rupees are flowing to other countries. shown. Rather it should be doubled. What are the reasons '] Who are the people responsible for all these things ? Our Secondly, I want to know how will you economy is being depressed by this. The bring that money back which has already value of the rupee has come down to 14 been taken out of the country ?■ I am unable paise. Black money is gathering too much. For to understand how that wi 1J be recovered * all the^e things, the businessmen, industrialist* or how will you come to know about the ,and the politicians are responsible. Every precise amount that has been sent out of paise which we deposit is a ^>st to the the country ? 1 have heard that there are Indian economy. We have to take stringent several agencies in the foreign con tries— steps against those,dishonest persons. It is they are both Government agencies as well as good as a murder. These persons are as Corporate sector agencies—which detect murdering our economy. The hon. Minister the accounts of the businessmen. Have you has to take stringent action against those any such agency or are you thinking of people. The process...as.I have come to constituting such an agency so that informa- know, is likes this. Kickbacks will be 257 Calling Attention of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Urgent Public Imp. 258

collected by the officials, Ministers and can you prevent these things relating ti> others. For as much as Rs. 10,000 crores deposits in foreign banks ? We have no we arc making purchases from ioreign doubt about the integrity of the hon. countries and on that, a minimum of ten per- Minister, but many factors are acting on cent they will get and those amounts are him in the discharge of his duties. Wc being deposited in foreign banks, as per request the hon. Minister to take stringent this report. As my friend has said just action against all these culprits. now, you must cut down these things. Our foreign trade is running at a -loss to the | Translation | c\tent of Rs. 9,000 “crores. All these things have happened because of malpractices and SHRI HARISH RAWAT ; Mr. Speaker, mismanagement. Those who are responsi- ’ Sir, whatever has been published in the ble for these things have to be punished. newspapers on the basis of IMF Study, and (Interruptions) Yes, defence stores also. Our the concern which has been shown in the yearly budget is Rs. 8,000 crores; they are country is reflected in the Statement by the getting defcnce contracts, trade contracts, hon. Finance Minister. The Finance business contracts, public sector contracts, Minister, as per his commitment, has stated and so on. Amounts are being looted like with firmness that there is need to check this. This has to be checked. If the same it. Jhe hon. Minister has enumerated those tendency continuous, we will go like Mexico loopholes which assist in depositing the and the same situation will c o m e to us in money in foreign countries in clandestine future. The hon. Minister has to take manner. some stringent action against these dishonest people. Your liberalisation policy might Sir, from the newspaper reports it has have weakened the detection process, lead ing been revealed that during the last one and to spurt in the* deposits there. ' No action one and a ha If year, from the time we has been taken so far. You can approach have made our policy a little liberal and have the Governments of those countries provided some relaxations to the industria- or the International Monetary Fund lists, these deposits have been made in the or some such organisations, you can Swiss banks. contact the Swiss Bank also. You can % find out. Where there is a will, 'there is a SHRI VIsViWANATH PRATAP way. Even the sccret numbers can be SINGH : I would like to correct you. Thi» found out. You can find out the numbers report is for the period upto, 1984. Libera- and*you can discover the dishonest people. lisation etc. which you have been mentioning We have' to punish those dishonest people. was after the report. These people might be.in the ruling Party or in the Opposition or they may be big SHRI HARISH RAWAT : That is why, industrialists or big officials or even politi- Mr. Minister, its clarification is necessary cians. W'e understand that, during the because it puts a sort of question mark on election period, nearly Rs. 4,000 crores were our financial policy. Therefore, I want to drawn from the Swiss banks and that money bring this thing to ?our knowledge. 1 am was used during- elections. Our fate is grateful for clarifying the position but even decided by the foreign bank money. This then this matter needs to be taken seriously. is the position. These things have to be It is possible that out of foreign exchange . taken note of and viewed with serious worth crores of rupees which we have been concerned. This is a very serious maitter. giving to the businessmen for import of tech- Whosever il is. to whichever Party he may nology, they have created this sort of money belong, be it official or anybody, serious by over invoicing about which you have action has to be taken against such people, made a mention. I would, therefore, urge i request the hon. Minister to take stringent you to tel I us that against how many big steps in this regard. Your Ministry con- businessmen, to whom large scale foreign ducted many raids. But unfortunately the exchange has been made available foe raids have been reduced recently due to •importing foreign technology, enquiry has many factors. I know what pressure the been instituted to know whether they have Minister is having. Because of pressure if. resorted to over-invoicing with the parties you are not able to conduct raids here, how with whom they had entered into agreements. 259 Calling Attention of NOVEMBER 14, J986 Urgent Public Imp. 260

The reason is that reports on other for their suggestion for taking strong action aspectsfare published in the newspapers but against those who are siphoning away the we have not come across Press reports wealth of the country. On this one issue about businessmen found guilty of over there is no difference of opinion either from invoicing and under invoicing or about this side or that side of the House. It is a some officers found to be in col lusion with matter of serious concern. 1 am not going these businessmen. Therefore, 1 would into details. I did mention that this report request you to enquire into this aspect concerns J984. No revelation has been thorough ly. done in this and it is from the Public Data Banks that they have published it. I am One thing more has been observed. As not going into this. per my ordinary knowledge, I think it is necessary for an Indian who wants to open The basic fact does remain that qualita- his account in some foreign bank to take tively we know that by various methods—■ permission from the Reserve Bank of India, by under-invoicing, over-invoicing, charging it is, therefore, possible that some of the of fees and also not bringing back the businessmen of our country in the name of export earnings—it is done. There is a opening account in foreign banks take per- whole list of two sheets of pages to mention mission from the Reserve Bank and depqsit the various methods by which it is done and the commission which they get by under 1 would not take the time of the House invoicing and over invoicing in the banks of on this. But the fact remains that the the foreign countries. This aspect also needs wealth of the country is being taken out lo be enquired into. by var ious businessmen. I have had quite a revelation coming in the Finance Ministry One thing more I would like to submit. that some of the very top-most people in Usually some people, because of some politi- industry and business are taking out money. c al interests try to involve politicians with This is one thing. ^

this. When I was a student at that tirtie also 9 J used to hear from the opposition people SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Can you that the politicians have deposited their indentify them ? money in foreign banks. I do not think it is so. It is possible that there might be one SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP or two black sheep but majority of them are SINGH : Yes, we are doing that job. I not black sheep. It" is the businessmen who will come to the whole issue as to what we in collusion with the officials indulge in are facing. I will not hide anything. such things. Therefore, there is need to monitor these things strictly. SHRI . INDRAJIT GUPTA : Their accounts in the Swiss banks are supposed Besides, as Shri Zainul Basher has stated, to be secret but if you know the names of you have given amnesty to those offenders some of these account holders... who have violated FERA. You have done this with good intention and for a pious SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP cause and the entire country has faitjh in SINGH : I will tell you what is our problem your honesty and sincerity. This House and what we are doing. We are in touch also has faith in you but it is possible that with the 'foreign governments. We have those people who have become habitual sent our people abroad also. We have offenders acts and indulge in corruption, may collected information. It has to mature misuse this facility. What steps you intend enough to get conviction in the court. We to take to check misuse of this facility? •are taking action utjder COFEPOSA but The strictest possible steps should be taken let us address ourselv^ to the major issue. against such people so that there are no Now rightly Mr. Jndrajit Gupta is agitated misgivings on this issue. as to what we are doing as a Governmenit. Certainly as a government we are respons- [English] ble to see that this does not happen. Sir the several steps that we have taken in this" SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP regard have shown results'. In the year SINGH : Sir, 1 thank the Hon. Members 1985 the contraband that was seized was to 261 Calling'Attention of KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Urgent Public Imp, 2 62

the tune of Rs. 191 crores against the pre- , that large jail there was hardly any tax vious year's of Rs. 101 crores. It was almost assessee. This fact did hit me flat on my double. Then we went into several special face. Is it that aster one crosses a certain operations like ‘Operation Fetu’, ‘Operation income limit he becomes an angel, and he Kali’, Operation Rana\ and ‘Operation can commit whatever economic offences he Burma Bazar' in Madras. Action has been wants. Was it a guarantee for crossing the taken against Orkay, Kirloskars, Bata, jail line ? As we have a poverty line, was Kothari Electronics. GTC and NTC. It is it a* condition that you cross the jail line not that the government is lacking in will. once you cross a certain income limit ? At least this government cannot be It was during that period that I did start challenged on this issue. '(Interruptions) thinking. Was something wrong with the Orkay is a case of undre-invoicing. It is administration or with the dispensation of not that we are not taking action. There law in the courts, or what is the actual are many cases of under-invoicing. Under reason ? It will be an interesting study if COFEPOSA in 1985 760 people were actually we analyse the income groups of those who detained and prosecution were launched are in jail. I think, such a social study has against 2111 people. About 802 people not been done. If this is done, if we were convicted under Customs Act and some relate this data with the common perception - of the highest quantity of 'hashish' in the which basically quantitatively may net world was caught in India. It also causes quantify itself, but qualitatively is correc* concern that India is becoming a conduit of people's perception of who are the econot but so far as the action is concerned it has mic offenders— and the scale is going on— shown results and the action taken by India I think, it will be quite in contrast to the has been ^recognised by the world organi- challunges we have. sation. As Government, it is our bounden res- The Economic Information Bureau that ponsibility and duty to challenge these people/ we have established is developing contacts to take severest action against them with its counter-part agencies in other because there cannot be a more anti-national countries. We cannot publicise many things activity than this. After all in the colonial day to day. Our officers are in contact rule what is the economic harm that is with foreign governments also and in some done ? It is the pumping of the country's of the cases we have been able to get help. wealth. If somebody sitting here taking They have given us documents which will the benef.t of the market of this country help us in prosecution and conviction in -siphones away money, he is worse than a some of the biggest cases that we are con- colonial exploiter, because he has at least ducting. His own country to serve, he has other countries to serve. , We are also jgoing in for computerisation in these matters so that retrieval of informa- I tell you, we went for Kirloskar case tion is easier. We are also going to and see what came up. I am sharing the strengthen our ofTices abroad. We have difficulties of the Ministry of Finance and offices in Dubai. Hong Kong, London and how we tire grapping with them. This is Kathmandu. We are making it multi- an extract of the c\idence in the court in functional. Jt is not that one officer looks which we had filed the case against ,Mr. after only one area but they look after the K irloskar. This is the evidence of the whole gamut of economic offences. We Secretary of the Company. After such are also going in for training of officers. I clinching evidence in the court, there is am not going into the details. I am just acquittal. The question put to the Secretary sharing what effort the Government is of the Company was : making. In this regard an hon. 'Member rightly said why don’t you put them in jail ? “ It is disclosed from the entries in I had the occasion to go to jail during 1977- column No. 6 and 7 against serial No. ‘80 several times for weeks together and 13 in the xerox extract of the commer- Naini.Central jail in Allahabad is one of the cia I register pertaining to Messrs F H largest jails and one thing did strike me Schule CompanN maintained by the and I share *v\ith you what you say.v In Country. Court. Hamburg (Exhibit No. 263 Calling Attention of NOVEMBER 14, J986 Urgent Public Imp. 264

24) that on 10.12.1973 by resolution of “It is alleged that .you and the remaining the members the share capital has been two accused did not obtain the general increased from DM 2,000,000 to DM or special permission of the Reserve 4.000.000 and the entry of the said Bank qf India for increase in the per- increase of the share capital has been centage of non-resident share holdings made in the commercial register on to 52'05 per cent in M/s Schulc Com- 22.4.1974...” pany. What have you to say ?” * • •• ...after the new FERA. The answer ;

Then : • “We did not obtain the general on special permission of the Reserve Bank "‘What have you to say of India for inccease in the percentage "of non-resident share holdings to 52*05 The answer was : per cent in M/s* Schulc Company so far.” “This evidence is true and correct.” This is the evidence given by the Secre- That is the confession in the court. tary. Similar evidence has been of Mr. Kirloskar himself. A question was put : Then, the question was : “It is disclosed from the xerox copy of ’“It is disclosed from the \crox copy of appro\al dated 10.1.1974 (fcxh. 30) made approval dated 10.1,1974 (Exhibit No. by you as Chairman and. Managing 30) made by the, accused No. as Chair- Director of the- accused No. I Company man Managing Director...” and Mr. Schule with his address at Pune/India before a Notary at Pune that That is kirloskar. on 10.12.1974 M/s 1NTERESSENVER- WERTUNG ANSTALT Vaduz (This is “ ...of the accused No. 1 of the Com- the same German Company) acquired pany...” shares worth DM 2.000.000 which constituted 50 per cent of the share capital That is ihis Company. (/ of M/s Schule Company and paid DM 2,000,000 to the said company on or “ .. and Mr. Fried H. Schule with his about 26.8.74 as disclosed from xerox address at Pcrne/India before a notary copy of a letter dated 26.8.74 by M/s at Pune ihat on 10.12.1973...” Schule to the County Court, Hamburg (Exh. 32) and that thereby the percentage M/s...,(It is a German name and 1 of non-resident share holding was cajnnot pronounce it) acquired shares worth increased to 52‘05 per cent in M /s Schulc DM 2.000,000 which constituted 50 percent Company. What have you to say ?” of the share capital of M/s Schule Company , * and paid DM 2 000,000 to the said company Then Mr. Kirloskar said : on or about 26.8.74, as disclosed from the 4 ;\erox copy of a letter dated 26.8.74—That “This evidence is true and corrcct. 1 is after the FERA came into operation— by used to sign a number of documents M/s Schule to the Country Court, Hamburg daily at that relevant time. Therefore, (Exh. 32) and that thereby the percentage I cannot say under what circumstances of non-resident share holding was increased and why 1 -signed this.” to 52*05 per cent in M/s Schule Company. What have you to say ? What more evidence is required ?

The answer given is : But then, the Court acquitted him. And it fe SUB JUD1CE now. 1 cannot say * “This evidence is true and correct.” anything more. But J can share with you This is the admission in the Court. Then as to what the Government has gone through it is asked : in this case. 265 Calling Attention o f KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Urgent Public Imp. ‘266

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : There is Neither th: act of a nnesty nor under the something wrong with the dales. That is custom of FERA, none in FERA in fact, he .why he was acquitted. has to bring back a II the money and if he is within that time window, and if he does SHRI K. RAMACHADRA REDDY not do that probably, we are again to pro- ou 269 Calling Attention of < KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) . Business of the House 270 Urgent Public Imp.

trying to stop it or expose it ? The country assets in part maturity and currency. In wants to know this. addition a country's break-down of foreign •assets and liabi Jities as weJI as of account SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP is published. So, w'hat has come is no.t a SINGH ). One thiitg I want to categorically secret intelligence but already published deny ; mention was made about Defence data from the bank itself. contracts. This is a categorical insinuation, which 1 cannot accept. I categorically deny Now about Swiss Bank, they have their it. There is nothing like that. I refer to the law of secrecy and that really becomcs a insinuation against Ministers and others. problem for us. They have a law that if Unless there is concrete evidence about there is a criminal act, then they can coope- anything, I think these general insinuations rate in giving the information. But I was should not be made. But if there is any- reading this in detail and I became very thing against anybody, that he is doing any sad when it say£ that this is not possible anti-national activity, that is a separate for tax evasion which although subject Jo thing. , . administrative sanction is not prosecuted at a criminal level in Switzerland. Now this One thing more I wailt to impress : our is not a crime in Switzerland. So we are total transactions in foreign exchange in a unable to get information. But, anyway, year are more than Rs. 50,000 crores. other sources, we will try. May I < assure What has been expressed is the cumulative the House that we will take maximum amount over the years, i.e. deposits in ' action on this account to safeguard the Swiss banks which are about Rs. 926 crores. interest of the country. I think that if you compare it with figures year to year . . (Interruptions) DR. DATTA SAMANT : You make

some efforts. 0 Mr. Zainual Basher was saying: ’Bccause the scare was being created, the flight will SHRI. VISHWANATH PRATAP be there. But the crime they are doing is SINGH : Anyway, we will pursue it. We worse than murder, as one hon. Member are making efforts. 1Interruptions) We have said. W'e have to create terror in the heart sent our officers to tax haven also and we of such people. I cannot compromise on it. arc trying, but many things I cannot just We should be fearless. (Interruptions At bring up in the House and publish them in the same time, we have to strengthen our- the press. But we will try our best.. This is selves on the side of taxation and intelli- all I can say. gence, and we will continue this and we will strengthen our foreign intelligence wing, and take action there also, We cannot * compromise on this. 13.07 hrs. t DR. DATTA SAMANT ; What about BUSINESS OI- THE HOUSE big industrial houses which are making sick units ? [English]

SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY THE MINISTER OF* PARLIA- (Katwa) : W'hat about the Swiss Bank ? MENTARY AFFIARS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP H.K.L. BHAGAT) : With your permission, SINGH ; What is there is not revelation ; Sir, I rise to announce that Government it is already their published data which has Business in this House during the week come ; it has been mentioned fiere that the commencing 17th November, 1986. will main source for external capital transaction consist of : here is used in the annual balance-sheet of banks and financial companies which (1) Consideration of any item of Govern- provide detailed break-down of banks’ ment Business carried over from today's foreign assets and liabilities by type of Order Paper. 271 Business of NOVEMBER 14, 1986* the House 272

(2) Consideration and passing of the Child execution of the same. Two proposals for Labour. (Prohibition and Regulation) foreign collaboration have been forwarded Bill, 1986, as passed by Rajya Sabha. to the Central Government and it is essential that the government. should take a (3) Discussion on the Resolution seeking decision without any further loss of time, disapproval of the Coal Mines National- specially as no central grants or funds are isation Laws (Amendment) Ordinance. to be made available for execution of the 1986 and consideration and passing of project. the Coal Mines Nationalisation Laws (Amendment) Bill. 1986. 13.01 hrs.

(4) Consideration and passing of : [SHRI SHARAD DJGHE in the Chair]

(a) The Atomic Energy (Amendment) [ Translation] Bill, 1986. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota) : .(b) The Indecent Representation of Mr. Chairman, Sir, the following subject Women (Prohibition) Bill. 1986, as may Undly be included in the Business for passed by Rajya Sabha. the next week ; 1

(5) Discussion on the 35th Report of the I would like to draw- the attention of Union Public Service Commission, the House towards non-supply of the control paper by tne Government of 'India to (6) Discussion under Rule 193 regarding the Board of Secondary Education, Ajmer, terrorist activities in Punjab and else- Rajasthan. where in the country. As per the orders of the Government SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE of India, the Board of Secondary Education. (Bolpur) : The following matter may be Ajmera had deposited a sum of Rs. included in the next week's business : 35,47,250, as 25 per cent advance money with the paper mills for supply of 1501 It is a matter of grave concern that the tonnes of control w'hite paper, but no supply government has decided to close dowd three has yet been made by these mills. printing prosses. two in West Bengal and one in Sikla as well as the Forms Store, The Education Board has promised to which is in existence for 70 years in Calcutta. those printers, whose tenders for printing The decision is against public interest. of syllabus books for the next academic About 5500 workers%and their families session have been accepted, that supply of would be affected by the decision, which control paper will be made by the middle seems to have been taken by the Central of December 1986. If the Board does not * « Government to give effect to its policy ol get control paper from the paper mills privatisation. Without utilising the working sponsored by the Government of India, it capacity of the printing presses, the govern- will have to purchase paper from the ment is placiiig orders of printing with market to supply the same to the printers private undertakings. The government should which wi II cause a heavy financial Joss to withdraw its decision and arrange for pro- the tionrd. i per running of the public undertakings. Consequently, on the one hand, it will The proposal for setting up of a power cause financial loss to the Board and on the generating station at Bakreslnvar in West other hand, the syllabus books will be made Bengal is Pending final clearance by the ava ilable to the students quite late due to Government of India for over six months. non-supply of the control paper to the -T he Central Electricity Authority accepted printers in time. One more point is there. ihe fesibility of the proposal but expressed These Paper Mills do not pay interest to its inability to provide funds for the execu- the Board on the amount deposited with tion of thf project* and recommended them as 25 per cent advance money whereas enter ing into foreign collaboration for the these Paper Mills charge interest from the 273 Business of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAK'A) the House 274

Board on the rest of the outstanding amount The proper exploitation of « these resources from the day of supply of paper. On this can co’ntribute substantially to the,socio- account also the Board has to suffer loss. economic condition of poor fishermen of • , the State. The Seventh plan envisages I request the Government to issue increase of marine fish production in Orissa necessary orders for the-supply of allotted to 70,000 M.T. from the level of 46,070 J501 tonnes of control white paper to the M.T. during the Seventh Plan. But the Board by the middle of Decemb

2. Although Parliament has passed the This matter needs inclusion in the next Environment (Protection) Act,, 1986, the week's business. same has not been enforced— nor the rules under the said Act have been framed. As [Translation] a result of which those who violate the provisions of the Act can neigther be SHRI HARISH * RAWAT ^Imora) : prosecuted nor can they be punished. M r.. Chairman, Sir, there are many ano- Besides, the said Act is a skeleton Act as malies in the recommendations of the Fourth important aspects of the environment have Pay Commission as a result of which been left, under the Act* to the Rule making various Associations of Central Government authority. Hence it is desirable that the Employees are either agitating against them said Rules are framed and laid on the or are resentful about them. It was being Table of the House next week so that a expected that.on receipt of the recommenda- discussion on the same can' be had. tions of the Fourth Pay Commission, the Government w$uld Constitute a powerful SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK Anomalies Commission whose recommenda- (Cuttack) ; I request that the following tions would be binding but the Government subject may be included in the next week's is not paying attention towards it. Thus business :—• a discussion on the anomalies in the The State of Orrissa abounds in marine, recommendations of the Fourth Pay Commis- inland and brackish water fisheries resources. sion is necessary in the Lok Sabha. 275 Business of • NOVEMBER 14, 1986 the House 276 * t %

* The necessity of a National Forest Policy has started giving importance to the - e\port is being felt *for quite a long time. At of Madhubani paintings. There is a great present the Forest Act 1980 is the only „ demand of these paintings in France, USA central law on the subject which is more and Canada. obstructive and negative in approach than being helpful in forest development. There Recently, these paintings were exhibited is widespread dissatisfaction among the in Bharat Mela in France and USA. These people liv ing in these regions against this paintings depict the socio-cultural traditions Act which is adversely affecting affores- of Mithila which are several thousand years tation policy. old, A number of artists engaged in these paintings have been given national awards. Thus there should be discussion in the But unfortunately, these artists could not Lok Sabha for enacting a law acceptable to benefit financially from their efforts as much all. as they perhaps, could because of the appearance of middlemen arfd brokers on [English] the seen. * * SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY The Union Commerce Ministry has set (Midnapur) : I request 'that the following up an office of Development Commissioner may be included in the next week’s for Handicrafts and also a service Centre at agenda :— Madhubani. But it has not-solved much i of the artists, problems. The artists do Acute scarcity of water both in the not get their payments in time and these’ municipal as well as railway town of agencies have done little to bring about any Kharagpur, is becoming more menacing improvement inthe situation. The everyday. The .State Government in financial institutions, similarly, have not 1985 had sanctioned a new water works been able to comprehend the special scheme worth Rs. % crores to- Kharagpur problems of these artists. As a result, municipality. But the sgid scheme has not these artists who are mostly poor and yet secured proper clearance and work, has illiterate, do not get adequate financial not yet started. Similarly, the Railways assistance for the promotion of their art. have been spending several lakhs every year It is, therefore, requested that the Govern- for supply of water to the colony. But ment • of India should immediately take underground water at Kharagpur is fast steps to give financial assistance to these being exhausted and water level is going artists so that this traditional art is preserved deeper everyday. Many deep tubewells &re and developed and the artists are in a posi- going dry every year. Even newly sunk tion to afford a reasonably decent living. tubewells fail to supply anticipated amount of water. If the Government do not move SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY from now to secure new water resources (Hindupur) : The following matter may be from the river Subarnarekha, Kharagpur included in the next week's business :—• will face water famine in the near future. So, the ntw scheme of supplying water to Anantapur District in Andhra Pradesh the jjiunidpality should be given immediate has only 14% ofirrigation facilities and clearance and work must irtimediately start. rest of the area is rain fed. These irrega- A fresh scheme to secure water from the tion facilities include 50 thousand wells Subarnarekha be taken up by the Govern- irrigating about one and a half lakh acres ment in order to supply water to entire and also by tanks. Due to continuous Kharagpur complex and thus, save it from drought no tank has received water for water famine. the past six yedrs and most of the wells have gone .dry. Hence agriculturists and .DR. G. S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): labourers are thrown oyt of work. If I request that the following may be included rupees five crores is spent, ten thousand wells in the next week's business ~ can be rejuvenated by drilling in well bores * and about thirtythousand acres can be It is heartening to note that after a lapse irrigated and the likely yield from these of nearly ten years. Government of India rejuvenated wells will amount to five, to ten 277 Business of the House KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) I.P.O. Bill, 10SC 278 crores per year. Every rejuvenated well many as 1013 million mandays are expected* will be able to sustain a family of the During the seventh Plan 2o% of the allo- cultivator and one family of labour providing cated funds are to be earmarked for social sustenance for at least ten members. v Thus forestry in the States and U. Ts. while 10% one lakh persons will be taken away from of the funds are to be earmarked for the the miserable spectrum of famine. If all works directly benefiting scheduled casts the fifty thousand wells are rejuvenated by and scheduled tribes. The cost of road spending five crores of rupees every year for projects. however, is to be limited to 50% five years, about 5 lakh ‘ persons in the of*the total cost.. The wage component in district will be saved from the ravages of a project should not how'ever be less than famine permanently. The State Govt, is 50% of the total cost of the project. not in a position to spend the amount.

0 But most of the States and U. Ts. are So, it is requested that the Central Govt, not following the objectives and guide j without escaping from the responsibility lines issued by the Central Government;j and without showing the burden to the they should be directed to follow these State Governipent can take a compassionate objectives and guidelines. view over the misery of (he famine stricken people of this area, and allot Rs. 5 crores Hence this is an important matter. It to the Rural Irrigation Corporation of should be discussed on the floor of the Andhra Pradesh for . giving Joan to agri- House in the next week. culturists for putting in well bores in the area to rejuvenate the wells in Ajnantapur THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- District. MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS H. tf. L. BHAGAT) : I am greatful to the (Jaipur) : I beg to submit that the following hon. , Members for having made their sub- matters of public importance may be missions. I shall bring them to the notice included in Agenda for the next week. of the Business Advisory Committee.

Rural Landless Employment Programme 13*25 hrs. (RLEP) was launched during 1983-84 as it was felt that the hard-core of poverty parti- The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch cular ly pertaining to employment opportu- till twenty five minutes past Fourteen of the nities for the landless needed to be tackled C lock. in a more diiectly and specific manner.

« The basic objectives of the programme The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch are :-r- « at Thirty one minutes past Fourteen of the clock. *' (i) To improve and expand employment opportunities for rural landless with ISHRl SHARAD D1GHE in the Chair] a view to providing employment for at least one member of every land- INDIAN POST OFFICE (AMEND- less labour-household upto 10G days MENT) BILL. 1986 in a year ; and [English] (ii) Creation of durable assets for strong- then ing the rural infrastructure MR. CHAIRMAN : Bill for consi- which will lead to rapid growth. • deration and passing. Shri Sontosh Mohan _ * Dev. The programme is fully funded by the * * Central Govt, during the 6th Plan Rs. . .[Translation] 500/- crores was provided and outlay of Rs. 17 43*78 crores has been fixed for the SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Fali) : Seventh Plan. Employment generation as I have a point of order, Mr. Chairman', 279 1 P -0 . Bill, //Mv; NOVEMBER 14, 1986 I.P.O. Bill, 1 >S6 280 $

Sir, this Bill has been included ‘ in today's of business. W’c go by the consensus of agenda, If you look at yesterday’s agenda the House. We have high regard for Dagaji’s i.e. of 13th November, you will tind that opinion. But if he says, we cannot add any it was written in it that—‘consideration of item from the weeks's business, there i* no any item left’. This Bill was not shown in point in mak ing week’s business. the agenda of 13 November and discussion on Supplementary Demands (General) was MR. CHAIRMAN : There is no point there. We prepared ourselves for that dis- of order. The Government has got the pri- cussion but at 8.30 A.M. today, this Bill vilege to change the order of items. Only was supplied to us. Yesterday night we the order has been changed. And it is the -were preparing for General Demands and prerogative of the Government to change it. today the Indian Post Office Bill has been 1 rule out the point of order. presented here. You have written that : Shri Son tosh Mohan Dev. [English] • THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE “Consideration of any item of Govern- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS ment business entered in the Revised (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): I beg List of Business on 13th November, to move* : 1986 and not concluded On that day." ► “That the Bill further to amend the [Translation] Indian Post Office .Act, 1898, be taken into consideration/’ Mr. Chairman, Sir, if due care is not taken in the matter of Bills, we shall not be While moving the Bill to further amend in a position to do justice to them. This the Indian Post Office Act fo r‘consideration item was not included in yesterday’s agenda and passing of it by the House, I wish to and today, all of a sudden, at 8.30 A.M. make the following opening remarks ;— we are informed that this Bill will be brought. Yesterday night, we were pre- The Indian Post Office Act, 1898 was paring for General Demands and now the one of the earliest legislation^ conceived in India Post Office (Amendment) Bill is going the 19th Century' for regulating the working of the post offices in the then prevailing to be discussed. Mr.-Chairman, Sir, 1 want 4 your ruling on it so that in future such mis- circumstances. In rcccnt times, thanks to the takes are not committed again and due excellent climate prevailing for rapid in- attention is paid to this aspect. dustrialisation of the country, there has been a phenomenal increase in commercial traffic [English] of mail* and consequent changes in the pattern of mail flow warranting modifications in the THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- provision of the original Act. MENTARY , AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI Section 26 of the original Act, which deals H.K.L. BHAGAT) : Sir, I want to tell the with power to intercept postal articles for pub- hpn. Member, Shri M od Chand Daga that lic good was conceived when India was a Bri- the Bill is already listed in the week's tish colony. In accordance with the assurance business. Itis already in the list tff business given on the lioor of the Parliament, by one for this week. It is carried over. If there is of my predecessors, we have reworded this no time you do not take it. This is the section to bring it wholly in conformity with Bill which is there in the week's business. the provisions contained in Article 19 (2). of The idea is not to rush through any impor- the Constitution. Another change made in tant thing. The time is always fixed for that this Section is to delete Sub-Section (2) of purpose. (Interruptions) So. it can be inclu- SecticJn 26 of the Act making it possible for ded. That is the answer. 1 can include it an order passed under this Sectiorf open If there were time, today, I would have for judicial review and curb arbitrary exercise insisted to be taken up. But if there is no time, today, we don't mintf. We get it after 'Moved with the recommendation of the some time. Sometime we change the list president. .281 hP.O. Bill, a m KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) I.P.O. Bill, /.9sv> 282

of the power under this Section. In this SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS - connection, it is stated that tHe Sub-Section (Bhi Iwara) : Does she write love letters ? (2) of the Act which is now sought to be deleted provided for a. certificate given by SHRI V. TULSIRAM : It is a matter the competent authority exercising the power of Satisfaction if Shri Vyas still receives as final and conclusivc proof about the love letters. It appears that, he is still fond occurrence of public emergency etc. With the of it. If you do not receive love letters, people deletion of this Sub-Section, courts of law like me receive. Day before yesterday also will be free to review orders for interception, I had told the Minister that whenever I under Section 26, thus making such orders dialled a certain number, the voice of a lady justiciable. was heard from the other side. When it happened Twice or thrice, she abused me. With regard to the monopoly of the The Minister had replied that he was sorry Indian Post Office Act with reference to if the numbej was connected by mistake conveyance of letters, the present Bill seeks but if there was some other matter, he to impose stricter penalties for violation and could not do anything. If the matter was also‘provides for search and seizure of letters different, I would have dealt it myself and illegally conveyed by private couriers. would not have brought it here. The Bill also seeks to provide changes in the provision of the original Act so as to I want to say that this section is very take into account the present high volume of dangerous and if it is deleted we shall have commercial traffic and also.to provide better no objection to the Bill. After that we shall and decentralised facilities to the common fully support it. It is clear that the people man. It also seeks to regulate mode of deli- in power will be able to do anything. That very of articles to residents of multi-storeyed is why this Bill has been brought and such buildings etc. which situation was not envi- provision has been included in it. We saged at t{ie time the original Act was belong to an Opposition Party and suppose framed in 1898. I, therefore, commend the our leader w-rites a letter to us which goes Bill to the hon. Members of this House for against you. you will not deliver that letter the passing of it. and will tear or burn that. Today you are in power, tomorrow soifie one else will be MR. CHAIRMAN ; Motion moved ; there. Whosoever is in power, will be using this provision for his benefit. It goes against “•That the Bill further to amend the ' the Fundamental Rights. Law Commission Indjan Post Office Act, 1898. be taken has given some suggestions. I would request into consideration.” * the hon. Minister to tell us as to what are the recommendations of the Law Commis- j Trans lation] sion. Have you accepted them in toto or only those recommendations which spited you SHRI V. TULSIRAM (Nugarkurnool) : and those which did not Suit you have been ' Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 totally oppose this rejected, iht; way letters will be torn and Bill. If the new scction 16 (old scction 26) is thrown away. If you do like this, how will deleted from this Bi 11, J will support it it do good to the country. You should think because this section is very dangerous. about the welfare of all the people and you Under this section, an officer can open, read, should not accept only those recommenda- throw away, burn or even sell a letter. I tions which may save your chair. It is not have used the word ‘sell’. Suppose there is a good thing. India is a free country and e court case and 'the lawyer sends some you should let everyone enjoy freedom. details of the case to his client through a Then you can tell them that such and such letter. The official can sell such a letter to things are not good and require to be aboli- the other party. It means that you have shed. You should convince the people. This opened the way for one pfersoni for earning provision existed earlier also during the money unauthorisedly whereas you have British rule. After independence, you should marred the future df the other person. If have deleted or amended it, but you did my wife writes about some confidential not do so. Now when you are amending it, domestic affairs, they can read it. you are amending it lo suit your own 283 I.P.O. Bill, WSfi NOVEMBER 14, 1986 I.P.O. Bill, m 0 284 interest. It is quite a wrong practice and the couutry. It was a coalition of several you should not do like this. The hon. parties. I want to ask why did they not Minister should think over it. You will only amend the laws during that time ? Had tel I us that we can have .your say and you these amendments been made during the consider it. 1 have already said that you do Janata Party's regime, we could have under- everything for your own benefit. Had you stood your feelings. But it seems that you tried to improve this Bill with good inten- forget your responsibilities when you are in tion no opposition Member would have any power ariU when you are in the Opposition objection to it. We are prepared to support you accuse the Government of being irres- your Bill fully but you should reconsider it. ponsible. This is not proper. It is true that You are going to reduce the number of Post the amendments which we are going to Offices in the country, particularly in the make were long overdue. The present Jaw rural areas. Day before yesterday. I had was enacted in 1898, while there was mentioned here that the Prime Minister’s British ru le in our country, and it is for letter from Delhi took 25 days to reach this reason that terms like ‘United Kingdom* Shantiniketan, Calcutta. If this is the fate and ‘His Majesty’ were present in it. Such of the Prime Minister's letter, what will words, if they occur in other statutes, must happen to people like us and to the rural be appropriately amended. The language people, where you propose to stop opening of the legis lations must not be such as to of new post offices. How w ill they receive cannote that we are still under the British their mail ? On top of it, you are gofng to rule. On reading those laws, it does not start interception of letters. This will delay appear that we are^n independent nation. the delivery of post by months. This is not The fact that we are going to amend these proper. You must give serious consideration laws after so many years of independence, to this matter. is a sign of our weakness. We ought to have brought the said amendments much If Section 16 is deleted, then we will earlier. If amendments are brought to support the Bill and not oppose it. If more delete such words in the other legislations, Post Offices are opened in the rural areqs, we shall welcome such amendments. We are then the postal delays can be checked, and not governed by United Kingdom any more. the people can be benefited from the improve- Therefore, words like ‘His Majesty’ cannot ment in the situation. If you are thinking be used. I would suggest that yoy should of the expenses, then it can be said that examine all the law's, and wherever such nothing can be done without it. 1 want to amendments are required, the needful should ,request you Jjhat for the good of the nation, be done. 7 he present amendment was and for the benefit of the poor, letters must already long overdue and this system of be delivered in time. Whenever our unity functioning is not proper. None of our laws or integrity is threatened, or our country is should smack of the British Raj, which may faced with any danger, we, who belong to imply that we are stilI being Governed by the Opposition, always support you. and .the British Government. for such good measures we will continue to support you. My second submission is in regard to section 26. I wholeheartedly support the SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN •intention with which* you are going to (Bawner) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support the amend section 26 under the present Bill and Indian Post Oflice (Amendment) Bill, 1986 I think it is very essential to do so. In fact, introduced by the hon. Minister. This Bill it is an essential step for any democratic has been based on the recommendations of Government. It has been clearly mentioned the 38th Report of the Law Commission *in this section that : a^id the amendment of Section 26 in the Bill has been objected to by the Members [English] of the Opposition, who want the said t amendment to be deleted. I am ip favour of “The Central Government or the State this amendment. First I want to State that Government or any otficcr specially though the Congress Party has continuously authorised in this behalf by the Central been in.power in this country, yet there was or the State Government, may. if a time when the Janata Party was ruling satisfied that i^is necessary or expedient 285 I-P.O. Bill, m n KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) I.P.O. Bill, IVSfj 286 t

u so to do in the interest of public safety the Prime Minister was delayed considerably. or tranquility, the sovereignty and The reason for this delay was that tire integrity of India, the security of the address was wrongly written. Nowadays, in Stale, friendly relations with foreign the rura 1 areas, it lakes 4 to 5 days or even States or public order or for prevent ing a week for a letter to reach the rural areas. incitement to the commission of any Therefore. I would request you to make such • offence, or on the occurrence of any arrangements that the letters reach the rural public emergency, by order in writing, areas in time and early. If air service is direct that any postal articles or class or required for the purpose, it may be utilised! description of Postal articles in the Similarly, if public road transport is avail- course of transmissionsby post, shall be able, the same may also be used. Where intercepted or detained or shall be dis- # both these means are not available and posed of in such a manner as the private transport is available then the same authority issuing the order may direct” . may be utilised accordingly so that letters may reach the far-flung rural areas in time [Translation] and fast.

If there is any correspondence, which Sir, I would like to make another sub- is anti-national and which incites people, mission in this connection. Earlier, mail then it becomes our duty to intercept such sorting used to be done in the train itself correspondence and fram^ necessary laws but now these sorters have been removed, in that regard. If we do not intercept such and this system done away with. Due to letters, and take the required action against this, the sorting of mail is being delayed by them, do not watch anti-national activities, one day and consequently, the delivery of these things can prove dangerous for us letters is also delayed accordingly. 1 wouJd lateron. If Pakistan indulges in activities like to ask you as to why was it essential which are dangerous for us, or if there is to put an ei^l to the sorting system ? correspondence of such kind, then it is essential to intercept, check and keep a Sir, our Postal services must never be watch on such correspondence for security delayed. The population of our desert purposes and also seize it, when required. areas is also increasing now-a-days. In Hence, the steps taken in this regard, and view of this, the expansion these services has the provisions made for it, are correct. become essential because we are marching ♦ Though equal rights have been granted to towards progress, the Central Govern- all in our Constitution, yet there are pro- Qient has put a ban on the opening of any visions for preventive Detention and our new post office branch and it will create Government as well as the Janata Party hindrartce in the development of our region. Government have made use of it. What I ' Our rural economy is making good progress want to say is that such provisions have to today. The rural areas have made consider- be made for the security of the country and able progress and there is a wave of aware- because we want to maintain peace and ness among the people *on account of the Inte- democracy in thg country, it is< therefore, grated Rural •Development Programme and essential to frame such laws. Hcncc, the the nationalisation of the banks. But the legislation made in this connection is proper. Postal Department and the ^ Ministry of However, the provisions relating to punish- Communications are still lagging behind. ment must be made more stringent. In I would, therefore, request, not to impose regard to mail theft, provision is there lor any j^an in respect of such services. Of 10 years punishment but I waftt that this course, ban should be imposed on the non- punishment should be made even. more essential expenditure but if some expendi- stringent, as it is an essential service. Hence, ture is to be incurred for the development whatever steps are taken for the protection of the rur^l areas, i t . must not be restricted. of this service, are justified, but our- people If this is done, we shall not tolerate it. in the rural areas should afso-get the bene- Although villages with Panthayat head- fit of it:’ quarters have . become quite populous today, nevy Post Office branches ate not Sir, an example was given here being opened. In such a situation how can just now that the letter which was sent by there be any development ? If we do not A 287 I.P .O .B H ljm , NOVEMBER 14, 1986 I.P.O, Bill, hsij 288

make progress and undertake development sary services and meet the full requirements works, how - can we keep pace with the thereof, we insist on this concept of exclu- • modern world and enter the 21st century. siveness. That is a very basic point that / * I want to'place before the House when we 15.00 hrs. approach this Bill. ‘ « Sir, in my Constituency of*Jaisalmer AVe must try to review the position. district there is no office of the Superin- Why is it necessary; is it laid down by the tendent of Ppst Offices. This is the largest heavens above: has it come down from a district in Rajasthan and its population is holy book that only the Goveenment machi- also increasing. T he.lndra Gandhi Canal nery must carry the postal articles ? It is has also reached there. But as the popu- , not. It is a service and there was a time lation there is short by 0'2 per cent of the when the Government and Administration prescribed norms, they are not opening the alone could provide that service. Now a office. They say that they cannot change time has comc when many private organi- the norms for it. sations— undoubtedly to be regulated strictly by the Government— are in a position to Can you not change the norms ? The provide this service. Then why should we people of Jaisalmer have to comc to Jodhpur not open the doors ? to avail of this facility. These facilities are not available even in the District headquaters. I come from a rural constituency and These facilities should be provided there. if I may say this, this is my first contact ’ with the rural India. Among the very few Therefore, what is required today is to things that the rural folk ask for are postal ' up garde the Post Offices, where necessary. facilities. They say, "You cannot do very The .Government should tate necessary steps much for us Mr. M.P. ; please get us a in this direction and also take active interest post ofiice."’ And I go on writing letters. in the development of the Po&t Offices anji For the last one year 1 have been writing to render assistance in every posible manner. the Department, to the Minister and even [English) dt the lower levels. There is absolutely no positive response. There is a stereotyped SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN answer that I receive, which says, “There is (Kishanganj) :* Sir, 1 approach the Bill with a ban". And that is that ! Even the norms some mixed feelings. There are parts of that have been laid down by the Govern-

the Bill which arc purely technical and in a ment% have not been fulfilled and are not sense which update the existing law 'on the being fullilled with regard to rural areas. subject and we cannot possibly have any’ The norms have never been implemented objection to updating-the enactment. with regard to scarcely populated regions. I now receive letters from many States But there is an aspect or two which I other than Bihar that even the established would like to place *beffirc the House and post offices are being closed down and these the fust question that arises in my mind is . include sub-post offices*or whatever other this very concept of exclusivcness. We categories that you may be having. All find that in many advanced countries toda>( these are being closed down. May be, the the conveyance or carriage of letters or Department is working on some sort of a documents is being liberalised perhaps ‘super plan* of rationalisation. We fcave because only the government machinery not been taken ‘ into confidence about this. cannnot cope with the growing burden. So, I do nof know anything about this super Therefore, there is a tendency to allow a ’ plan. Byt the fact is that some Panchayatst certain degree of privatisation of these with a population of 10,000 have no other facilities. I am sure that the hon. Minister means of communication with the rest of is fully aware of the details of such facilities the country. # You are not giving them that are available in many European coun- telephones. ‘ Telegrams, in any case, reach tries. And I do not see any reason why nowhere. In any case, they have to be with & growing economy and wjth the esta- communicated only through the postal blished fact that the Postal Department is systsm. So, in that case, the only means of not in a position today to provide the neces- communication available to them is the ^289 l-P'O. Bill. IUM ' KARTIKA 23 1908*(SAKA) l.P.O. Bill, WM 290 t « # postal system and the postal facility is being happening all over the country. You'are • denied to such large units as Gram' Pancha- going to regularise it; You are going to yats with 10,000 population. 1 wrote a legalise it by keeping this-point obscure. letter to find out the number of Panchayats l_et that point be made absolutely clear that in my constituency alone which did not have • the direction in such circumstances shall be given or shall be a dressed only to postal a postal facility. 1 thought that may be the 4 list will run into a few lines, but Mr. Chair- authorities and to non else. I hope and man, the reply listing the names of the Gram I can feel the • winds of fascism that is Panchayats alotie covered the whole page. slowly blowing acrosss our land and I also *l/3rd of the Panchayats simply do not have do hope that we have not yet come to the postal facility. In my* view, they come point where this sort of interception can be fully within the purview o f the existing done by the police forces or the para- norms, but whi le we have money to waste military forces or the army. Now what for Ta'mashds, while even the Prime Minister can be intercepted by the police authorities. is supposed to take note of non-essential ex- What have you said there ? Any postal penditure and. gi\e a direction to the article can be intercepted or any class or Government, to the other Departments, to description of postal articles can be inter- our colleagues, to cut down non-essential cepted and there are no guidelines as to expenditure, but postal facilities cannot be what constitutes a class. provided because there is a ban ! I cannot understand this logic. All right, if you SHRI ATAUR REHMAN (Barpeta) : cannot provide the facility, why do you Except love letters. want to keep this exclusive, right ‘to your- • * self ? If you cannot d o it, then allow SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN ; others to do it. Exactly. I do not know. May be 'tomorrow, you may say that all letters So, Mr, Chairman, this is my first basic addressed to the Janata Party can be inter- point. cepted, we kno\t, you may do it tomorrow.

The second basic point that J want to AN HON. MEMBER ; Love letters make is, with regard to this Clause 16, which can be confiscated. substitutes a new Section for Section 26. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Once upon a time, when I was learning * Obviously. How do you do that ? This English, I was told that there are two kinds is an absurd thing. This proposition is far of verbs— one which require an object to too general', far too overwhelming in its ha\e its full meaning and the other which connotation and 1 am not imputing any 'd c ^ not . require an object. Here, this motive at this stage to the Government Clause uses a phrase— a substantial.phrase— but it remains to be seen what they do in that in certain circumstances, the Govern- practice. All I am pointed out, Mr. Chair- ment may “direct”. It does not say man, is that the loose phraseology of this “direct whom". Who is to carry out the scction, leaves the feld wide open for directions? It is an absurdity. 1 simply misuse, for an excessive use of the authority * * m cannot understand it. Unless the Govern- which is going to be vested by the Parlia- ment have deliberately obscured this .point ment in the postal system. Therefore, they I do not know what their intention are ? must make it very clear, that this clause In such a situation, are they going to direct will not mean a social group, this clause the police authorities, or are they going to will not mean a particular institution, but. direct the army authorities or are they going this will mean only a person or an indivi- to direct the postal authoritcs ? I would dual. And it cannot possibly mean that suggest that the hon. Minister should make all members of a definable group shall comc it very clear what is the urgency of inter- under its purview. By one stick you should ceptions: 1 know this, it is, happening all not beat all of them. It should be made over the country, that even in times * of very clear; but this power, I am afraid, is peace, the policc officer goes to the sorting likely to be misused one time or the other, office, stops.the sorting work and takes away and ised against the democratic rights of whatever he likes. 1 allege that this is our people, and it is going to be yet another 291 1.P.O. Bill, NOVEMBER 14, 1986 I.P.O. Bill, J'JM 292

step towards an authoritarian regime which, British Government alone. It is possible that as 1 said, I see creeping on our land. a situation may arise in our country which may warrant such type of law. There should, I have no other important points to therefore, be no objection to . the enactment make. I thank you, Sir, for the opportunity of this law. At the same time it is also given to me to speak out of turn. 4 necessary to use it properly. U' the law' is used properly 1 think no one will have any [Translation)' objection to it. M SHRI .G1RDHARI LAL VYAS A provision relating to revenue has also * (Bhilwara) ; Mr. Chairman Sir. I support been included in the Bill. There are many the Indian Post Office (Amendment) Bill • companies which make'edvance deposits with introduce! by the hon. Minister. The Bill the Post Offices or the Department annually is based on the Report of the Law and then they use the franking machine for Commission. Certain new sections have been one year. But there can be people in the i incorporated in it. Just now an hon. Department who misuse that franking Member, Shri Shahabuddin expressed his machine and which can result in Joss of views. I think his criticism of this Bill is not 'revenue to the Department. There should, justiTied because the provisions will be used therefore, be full, arrangements to prevent against those persons and articles which such a thing. Inspectors should be there to endanger the security and tranquifity of the prevent this type of misuse* of authority or country. This provision is to deal with such leakage of revenue. persons who send suclj articles from one v place to another. This type of provision is As regards the revenue leakage, I would especially needed in a state of emergency in submit to the hon. Minister that only three the country. Presently such a situation does years imprisonment has been provided for not exist and the Government h as' no this offence whereas in some other provisions intention to open the lettfrs and parcels • life imprisonment or 10 years imprisonment indiscriminately. Shri Shahabuddin should has been provided. I think il is a big not sense any danger, nor the tfanata Party anomaly. You have made provision for very people are so dangerous as to attract this less punishment whereas the leakage of provision. This provision has been made for revenue in this Department is massive and the terrorists, secessionists and such other this provision will not be effective. I think people who endanger the unity and integrity ' that the Department people are not so of the country and I find it quite justified. vigilant and alert as to check this leakage of revenue. In this connection 1 would like I also want to repeat one point made by to know from the hon. Minister as to how Shri Shahabuddin. Many officers bear per- many cases of revenue leakage under this sonal enmity and they can misuse this power. law have been detected and what action has Therefore, some provision should be made been taken? If he has got this information to prevent its misuse. It will be good if some then the hon. Minister may tell in his reply provision is incorporated whereby the about the action taken in this connection. intention of the Government is accomplished • and at the same time public is also saved Other questions are also involved. from any harassment and the common man Money-orders are sent from one place to also docs not sense any danger. another and several of them are sent to rural areas but there the people remain unaware Shri Tulsi Ram has objected to Section of them. The labourers who go to far off 16-A and has stated that he is .ready to places to work send money through money- support the Bill if this section is withdrawn orders to their ^families but they do not but this section is very essential. -It will not receive that money. If some complaint is be correct to condemn every law framed by lodged by them, the enquiry takes two to the British Government only because it was three years. The guilty persons are not framed by them. The British Government punished because Hie long time involved was also a Government and it had enacted weakens the case. Therefore, there should be this law to be applied in a state of emergency. some provision in this law to find out It applies to every nation and not to the whether al I the money-orders and other 293 l.P.O .milJ'm KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) l.P.O.JBill, WS6 294 costly parcels reach the addressees or not ? In the same way 1 want to say that it Your Department detects only a small will not be right lo take any .action in the number of such cases and action in those matter of money-orders, payments, letters cases is often delayed. Most of the guilty etc. coming from foreign countries unless it persons are acquitted and no action is taken is felt that they arc dangerous. Similarly, against them. This system, therefore, should you have assumed power tq. recover an be properly regularised. article or valuable article under the Land Revenue Act if it is delivered without recciv- Similarly, there is Section 26 which is as ' ing payment. But your employees and follows and about which Shri Shahabuddin officers shculd also be careful that the article also made a mention :- -is delivered against the payment due and if it is not done then the person who has not acted according to the law is punished. [English) Such employees need to be supervised. You % * should make provisions in this connection “The Central Government or the State also so that such mistakes are not repeated Government or any officer specially continuously. authorised in this behalf by the Central of the State Goverment, may, if satisfied I want lo say one more thing. Just now that it is necessary or expedient so to an hon. Member said that you have closed do in the interests of public safety or down the R,M.S. Department. Previously tranquility, the sovereignty and integrity sorting was done in the train itself but now of India, the security of the State, it is not so. Now as a result of the sorting friendly relations with foreign States or at different places it takes more time and Public order or for preventing incite-- delivery of the dajc is also delayed. This ment to the*commission of any public step has rendered many persons unemployed. emergency, by order in writing, direct Why do you not continue the old system so that any postal article or class or des- that efficiency is also not effected. The cription of postal articles in the course previous system made letters and parcels of transmission by post, shall be inter- available in time and no problem was there. cepted or detained or shall be disposed The Government should, therefofe, certainly of in such manner as the authority reconsider this matter, issuing the order, may direct. I would, like to speak about the small [Translation] Post Offices, started in the villages. The perssons working there are not given even This- qiiestioja is very serious and you minimum wages by you. You give them will haveto think seriously over it. The only Rs. 130 to Rs. 135 a month whereas the Post Offices on their own, will not get the minimum wage is Rs. 11 per day. If such concerned information and the military or a situation prevails in a Government Depart- the police will not supply the information to ment, then others also get encouragement- the Postal Department. A proper search that when even the Government is not of the dangerous persons receiving such paying minjjnum wages to its employees who articles should be made. The Postal Depart- work for 24 hours, we should also adopt the ment does not have its own intelligence same practice. If you go to a village, you wing to fnd out that such articles are will find that employees of the Post Office reaching dangerous people who can endanger work.from morning till late in the evening the unity and integrity of the country. but get very meagre salary. Therefore, there Therefore, the above mentioned provision is shoujd be some defnite arrangement in this a must. Safeguards should be provided in ‘ conrtection. the Bill to allay the apprehensions of this people who think that this provision will be There are a number of agenc ies which used against those persons who have been • deliver documents, bills of exchange and working for the unity, integrity, safety and valuable articles from one place to anoiher independence of the country. It is necessary although legally they ca.inot do it. Tn spite to provide this safeguard. of it, a number of transport companies carry 295 I.P.O. Bill, 1USH NOVEMBER 14,1986 Res. Re-Growth of296 Rurul Economy—Contcl. bills of cxchangc from one place to another, of those buildings try to get them vacated thereby causing Joss of revenue to your after one or two years. I suggest that t|ie Department. You have not made any hon. Minister of Communications should provision to check the leakage so that your 1 get the Post Offices housed in their own Department may get more revenue. 1 hope buildings. that the hon. Minister would give a thought to it to get the leakage plugged so that the I also request' that the letters should Department may gfet more revenue. reach the people in time, This is my suggestion. There are several big villages which do not have Post Offices. Post Offices in almost With these words, I support this Bill. all the Panchayat Headquarters have been opened but there are villages under a [English] m Panchayat which have a population of more than 2 to 3 thousand. As per your rules, * MR. CHAIRMAN : Now we will go to you open a Post Office for a population of the ‘Private Members’ Business. Shri Piyus 2,000. There is, therefore, need to open Tiraky. Post Offices in big villages under a Panchayat besides the Post Office at the Headquarters. I hope you would give antention to it and provide better services to the people by regulating 15-30 hrs. postal services. You should take such steps as may increase the efficiency of the postal COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS’ services. To my mind, the reputation of the BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS postal service in India ha$ been deteriorating Twenty-Fifth ReporJ day by day. This is because of lack of- monitoring due to which people indulge in [English] bungling and take undue advantage of it. We * > should endeavour to restore the same SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurduara) : efficiency in the postal services which w'as Sir, I beg to move : there in the past. The Postal Department is the biggest public utility organisation in the “That this House do agree with the country and it should be streamlined so that • Twenty-fifth Report of the Committee it may serve the nation in a better way. on ‘Private Members’ Bills and Resolu- tions presented to the House on the "nth With these words, 1 support the Bill. November 1986."

\ SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : (Morena) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support “That this House do agree with the the Indian Post Office (Amendment) Bill, Twenty-lifth Report of the Committee presented by the hjn. Minister of Communi- on Private Members' Bills and Resolu- cat ions. tions presented to the House on the 12th November, 1986.” Shri Vyas has already spoken a lot on the amending Bill. He is a good orator and The motion was adopted there is not much left to say about it. 1 want to give two or three sug ;estions. The Postmen used to get uniforms in the past but at present they do not get any uniforms. 15*3! hrs.* Therefore, I suggest that the employees who deliver letters should at least be given uni- RESOLUTION RE-GROWTH OF RURAL forms so that one can know that they are ECONOMY—CONTD. the employees of the Post Office. [English], Secondly, I have seen that the Post

Offices situated in the rural areasI arc Mr . CHAIRMAN : The House will housed in rented buildings and the owners • now lake up further discussion of the 297 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA,23, 1908 (SAKA)Rural Economy—Contd. 298

following Resolution moved by Shri D. N. mentioned as migration. If I speak any- Reddy on the 25th July, J986 :— thing wrong about the question raised by my friend, ihen it would be injustice to him. “In view of the growing disparity between He has more experience and knowledge than rural and urban incomes, resulting in 1. Recently, there was an article, ‘Migra- overcrowding of suburbs of towns and tion and Development’ published in the cities, and lack of incentives and oppor- Financial Express dated 4 October,* 1986. tunities for growth of self-generating I read it for you. rural economy through rural industries, crafts and arts, this House urges upon \ English] the Government to allocate rupees ten thousand crores for the growth of rural "In India, the percentage of the urban economy during the Seventh Five Year population in the total has more • than Plan." , ' . doubled between 1901 and 1981. It is currently increasing at a rate of four per Shri Mool Chand Daga to continue his cent, as a result of a national increase speach. of population at about two per cent and migration from rural areas at two per J Translation1 cent.

SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : According to World Bank projections, Mr. Chairman, Sir, Shri Reddy has presented the proportion of urban dwellers in India a very important Resolution. It is very would be 35‘5 per cent by 2000 A.D. unfortunate that members of the ruling By that time, among the largest cities party, affluent peQpIe and leaders of the. of the World, Greater Bombay with a opposition sometimes become so complacent population of about 17i million would that they fail to see the writing on the wall. rank eighth and closely' followed by That is why this Resolution has been pie- Calcutta with' about 16*7 million as sented. ninth." > The villages represent the true India. I Translation| Mahatma Gandhi had said that India lives in the villages. He had dreamt of an India All the facts are given in this Article. in which the poor would feel that they are The reasons too are given in it as to w'hy enjoying the same facilities as are available the population is increasing ? to a king and one day a Harij“an girl would become the President of India, This was Thousands of people come from the the feeling of Mahatma Gandhi. Today villages to Delhi and Bombay. They live what do we find in Delhi ? Not only in on pavements in the scorching heat with Delhi but also in Bombay, Calcutta or in insufficient clothes on their bodies. They about 216 big cities which have a popula; construct their jhuggis which are demolished tion of 1 iakh and above, the population by the D.D.A. men. On the one hand has increased tw'o fold than what it was they are living in the scorching sun with in 190J. Mr. Chairman, Sir, you live in their bare bodies and on the other hand, we Bombay which has a population of 16*5 arc living in airconditioned houses. Such million. In Calcutta there are 17*9 million 4 is the situation. The hon. Member who has people... (Interruptions) moved this Resolution has told me that some corrupt officers and political leaders SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV ; It are taking advantage of it and they have comes to more than 1000 million...... established their kingdoms. He has also (Interruptions) told me the reason for people’s migration from villages to the cities. According to SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA ; If him the laws made by us arc not properly there is any mistake, I may be excusted' for implemented. Shri Janardhana Poojary goes that. I haVe facts with me which tell as to to the villages and comes back after saying which are the cities whose population is to the officials that the work of uplifting the * increasing. The reason for this has been poor above the poverty line should b© 299 Res. Re-Grawthof NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy—ConuL 300 completed. He should visit Rajasthan and sqe [English] that whereas loan melas are being organised here, people are reeling under drought “ Poor are where they were. ttiere. Though our Government has launched a number of programmes like I.R.D.P., The stydy shows that the poor constitute N.R.E.P., R.L.E.G.P., D.P.A. etc. but 75 per cent of the total households of the no one monitors whether the poor are village, with 50 per cent living below the getting benel't from them or not. Some poverty line. They are mainly agriculturists corrupt bank managers. Tehsildars and owning 1 acre or less of land and a few B.D.O. ’s do not let its benefits reach the of them are artisans. The survey revealed people. But you say that you have lifted that the fruits of development flow more lakhs of people above the poverty line. The towards the richer sections and non-agri- Hon. Minister usually makes statements to cultural sectors.” this effect but he does not go to the villages to see whether these schemes are being | Translation] , implemented or not. ' All these figures have been published by Mr. Chairman. Sir, you are an experi- the Planning Commission and have been enced person. It is possible that this pro- quoted from the journal ’Yojna'. These have blem is not there in Maharashtra but when been provided by the officers o f ‘the Plan- this law' was enacted' it was stated that the ning Commission. Do not think that Shri land would belong to the tiller. But today Mool Chand Daga has quoted il on his own. one person tills the land and the ojher reaps Since the hon. Minister is preoccupied and its benefit. It is also not a secret who extends help to all, 1 thought that I should enjoys the luxuries of lif-e sitting in palaces. also assist him. That is why I have quoted We struggled hard but the poor could not figures from the ‘Yojna' published from get the land. Yojna Bhawan.

Mr. Chairman, Sir, ‘I have just started SHRI G1RDHARI LAL VYAS and have not even completed one point and (Bhilwara) : Kindly tell the hon. Minister you have rung the bell. Today is the 14th that there is no Railway facility in of November, the birthday of Shri Nehru Rajasthan. * and he always used to stress the village-oriented development. Our Minister' for Plan- SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA ; Sofne ning is epitome of tolerance.’ True to his points should be left for you to raise. I name he tries to provide succour to every- Would like to say that some arrangement, body. I request him to listen to < me should be made to distribute the remaining patiently. land on the basis of poverty. Now the question arises as to how to define poverty ? If you try to know as to why people Poverty is of different kinds like fcfod migrate from villages to the cities, you will poverty, health poverty, educational poverty find many reasons for it. They do not get etc. full work in the villages -and their economic situations is very bad. The poor in the villages do not possess land. Nobody has [English] work; famine like situation prevails everywhere. That is why from farm labourers It is stated in an article on the poverty ‘to the farmers, everybody is migrating to the problem cities. Even after coming here there is no solution to their problems. Hon. Minister “Dr A.M. Khusro, Member Planning of Planning, I am going to quote certain Commission proposes a distinction bet- figures which have been taken from a book ween what he calls ‘food poverty' and published by the Planning Commission and what he calls health poverty, educa- which have been provided by your Ministry. tional poverty and poverty in respect of I am reading out these figures from your the consumption of industrial goods.” journal ‘Yojna’ dated 31st May ■ 301 Res. Re- Growth o f ' KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy— Contd. 302 * t J Translation] [Translation]

\ Sir, you want that there should be dis- He has said all these things. Who cipline in the House but this is lacking in construct these clams '! The engineers cons- everything. Health facilities are lacking. truct these dams and all the credit goes to The Yojna Bhawan is ignoring villages to a them. Therefore, Sir, 1 have said all these great extent. People say that wc. live, in things. In the Report it has been stated ivory towers and democracy is a luxury. that the rural rich corner the benefit of the They say that in democracy intellectuals subsidy. Two classes have come into work less and talk more and talk of revolu- existence in the villages—one is rural rich tion. There are a lot of things to say. and the other is the poor. The poor are Kind ly give me five minutes more. I shall gaining nothing. Only ihe rural rich and a be highly obliged to you. 1 shall not go in handful of people of the country have detail. Today is the 14th of November. . concentrated all the wealth in their hands. It is the day when Nehruji shaped the They are given maximum coverage on T.V. destiny of India. Therefore, at least allow and in the Press. Only they are happy. me to speak today. *" As’ I was saying, There is no use submitting figures till there poverty is of different kinds. Poverty is is unemployment in the villages. The not of one type only. The Reserve Bank poverty will remain there and it \vi II not be of India has stated that the people of India eradicated. The advent of Bata in fhe have gone sp much below the poverty line market has rendered the cobbler unemployed that they will become poorer in the days to in the villages. The oilman is unemployed. come. It has given facts to substantiate Where is the “Gram Swaraj" of Mahatma its contention. I would like to place these Gandhi. Unless money flows to the facts before you. A 11 right, if you are not villages, the Gram Swaraj of Mahatma giving me time to speak, 1 shall not place Gandhi will not materialise. I have not them before you. The Reserve Bank has been able to do justice to 'th e Resolution said in its Report that there has been no Secause you are not giving me time to development of villages in India. You are speak. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have got full not allowing me to quote facts and figures facts with me but you are not giving me but I apologise for saying ihis that the time to speak. That is why I am not able P*ime Minister of India Shri Rajiv Gandhi to do justice to the Resolution. had put forward a new 20-Point Programme a in August 1986 in which he had said :— Sir, the facts available with me show to what extent we are lagging behind. No development of villages has taken place [English] because we have never visited villages. If resolution takes, place in the near future, “Eradicating poverty, first item. it will start from the villages and only time Raising productivity. Reducing incomc ^ will tell as to who w'ill bear the conse- inequality. Then removing socio- quences. economic disparity; improving the quality of life. [English]

[Transhition] SHRI SR1BALLAV PANIGRAHI (Deogarh) : Sir, I thank you for giving me He has said all these things in the 20- this opportunity to speak on this important Point Programme. Today is the birth resolution which is being discussed on a anniversary of Pt. Jawahar Lai Nehru and memorable day like the 14th November, our Prime Minister is saying ;— the birthday of the founder and architect of modern India, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. [English] I pay rich tributes to the sacred memory Attack on rural poverty. Strategy for of Panditji. As you know, his dream of agriculture. Better use of irrigation India will be fulfilled when all sections of and power. population prosper and a IL areas prosper. 303 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy—Contd. 304

We have, over the years, made a lot of enough '! Are we not spending much more stride in the Meld .of development. In the than this amountIf you look at the Held of industrial development the country Budget of different Departments and Minis- which was not capable of producing even a tries, the amount kept apart for rural areas pin at the .time of achievement of indepen- in respect* of different developmental schemes, dence, is now one of the front-ranking jointly taken together, will be more than advanced countries of the world, industrially. this amount in Seventh PJan. But that is So, we have gone that far but, at the same not the proper thing. In fact when our time, riiany of our areas, particularly the leaders like Smt. Indira Gandhi felt that the rural areas, have not developed to the ' benefits were not reaching the lower strata extent we expected or to the extent desired. . of the population, the Harijans, the Adi- vasis, landless labourers, then certain speci- Our per capita income is increasing and fic programmes under different schemes wc are marching forward in the feld of like the Poverty Alleviation Programme, development. But, at the same time, in were thought of. Such programmes have many areas people are living below poverty beeti introduced. Under Poverty Allevia- line. This is a contradiction and irony of . tion programme,, a lot of money has been fate. This kind of disparity is growing in provided. .This year's allotment has also our country and it is a matter of grave recorded an increase of 65 per cent over the concern for us. Planning should be done ,• last year's allotment under the Poverty and our development should be taken up in Alleviation Programme. What^ is the pro- such a fashion that the benefits thereof blem ? The question is that the entire reach uniformly and rationally all sections amount is not being properly, spent. The %and all areas. That is what is wanted or middle-men and the via-media agencies are is wanting and adequate attention should be being benefited largely out of these pro- paid to this aspect. grammes. So, proper monitoring has to be i ensured. Whosoever is found accused of I need riot repeat how India lives in misappropriation or of faulty implementa- villages. Gandhiji rightly said “ India Jives tion, they should be taken to task very in villages" and it is a vefy popular saying, seriously artd mercylessly. h is true that today also more than 80% of population lives in the villages. In States Again about this, I would say that when like Orissa, it is as high as 91%. Even we come to the development of rural areas, after 40 years of independence, basic faci- primarily agricultural sector has to be lities like drinking water are not provided developed. Agriculture cannot develop in quite a number of villages. The per without land-reforms. I am pained to say capita income is about Rs. 1200/- in the . that since 1977 things have not changed In urban areas and it is as low as Rs. 500 in India and seriousness has not been attached. the rural areas. On the health side also, No importance is being given to the imple- .there is a difference in respect of longevity. . mentation of progressive land-reforms in A situation hds arisen when the people of this country. Without land-reforms, with-' the .rural areas feel that they are neglected out the provision of irrigation, the picture and as if they arc the second class citi/ens in the rural areas can never change. of this country. This is a dangerous trend developing in the country. So, we have to 1 would like to mention another impor- take serious note of it ancf we have to take tant thing. We have to organised the land- remedial steps and corrective measures. less and the agricultural labourers who are unorganised and who do not get payment ‘About corrective measures, I would say and other legitimate dues from their owners, that just setting apart Rs. 10,000 crores. as landlords. They have to be organised\ demanded in the resolution, for the purpose of rural development, is not enough. Are Regarding agro-based industries, with anguish. I would like to bring to your notice we not having money ? It is stated in the i resolution that taking note of growing dis- and to the notice of the Government through partity between the rural and urban areas in you that a lot of industries are coming in respect of development, lot of money should some rural areas. But what is happening ? be spent for rural development. But is it When an industry comes in a particular 305 Re-Growth of KARTJKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy—Contd. 306

area, that particular area is developed. It particularly cottage industries, in rural bears a new look with pucca roads, with areas and administrative complexes in buildings— sometimes multi-storey buildings. central rural areas ; rural development But what happens to the prosperity centres will have to be developed in diffe- and the conditions of the original residents rent places ; good schools and goods hospi- of that particular area ? They are not tals and medical centres should be opened... benefited by .and large in many places. So, in that way development also MR. CHAIRMAN : Pleas conclude. gets defeated. The purpose of development, is defeated in that way. When a new pro- SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : I ject comes into being in a rural areas would like to.conclude with one request. naturally people from-other areas come and We do agree that Government realise this, they get the benefits. Even in respect of Government are sincere about the pro- some small posts, people are coming to get gramme of alleviation of poverty not only such jobs. So, we have to see that the from the urban areas but also from the areas develops along with the prosperity of rural areas, but much remains to be done, the local people on whose sacrifice such pro- there is a lot .of scope for improvement. jects come up in such areas. Agro-based The schemes are not being properly imple- industries and cottage industries should be mented. Emphasis should be given on pro- cncouraged. I am sorry to state here ttyat per implementation of the schemes like the SambaIpuri cottage industries and Sambal- poverty alleviation schemes. Of course,' the puri sarees which are famous— not only in amounts that are actually required, we are India but abroad also are now facing not able to provide, but whatever amounts danger and 'a serious situation has arisen arc actually provided are also mis-spent, because of the menance of imitations. not properly spent. Government should Cottage industries is also facing such dangers read the writing on the wall. The people in from different sides. That has to be seen in the rural areas arc feeling that they are thfe proper prospective. Whenever we develop being neglected, they are feeling that they agriculture, we should have some industries are being treated as second class citizens, also in rural areas. There should be bazzars that the Government is not taking care of for purchases. In several cases, people have their basic facilities, etc. We have to work to go to towns for purchases. It is time coordinatedly and sincerely and ensure for reforms to be brought about in the implementation of the schemes so as to administrative system. We have to develop remove this sort of impression that is being rural centres with administrative offices, block- created in the minds of the rural people. offices, etc. There should be provision for treasury, banks etc. so that people are not With these words, I congratulate the required to come to towns for such purposes. hon! Member who has brought forward this Resolution. It is a good Resolution, it is 16*00 hrs. thought*provoking, and the House is also discussing with seriousness. I urge upon the Further, in many areas, good schools are Government to realise its importance. Of not there. Hospitals are not there. Even course, they realise the importance, but when the people fall sick, they have to go whatever is lacking in this, they should plug lo tOws. Of course, there is a silver-lining those loopholes and see that things improve now. It is my gratification to see that and the people in the rural areas also get Navodaya schools are generally located in justice. the rural areas. They are good schools and they are now being located in rural areas. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER Naturally some good hospitals and some (Bangalore South) : Mr. Chair-person, Sir, medical centres also should be located in it is really very appropriate that we are the rural areas so that the rural people will discussing this Resolution on this auspicious not be required to come to the town for day, the birthday of the architect of the everything, for treatment of ailments, for Modern India, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. good education; for marketing, for making I wholeheartedly welcome this Res6lution purchases, etc. So, there should be advance- moved by Dr. D.tf. Reddy. It is very unfor- ment of agriculture, setting up of industries. tunate that Dr. Reddy could not be present 307 4 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy— Contd. 308 today due to some domestic inconvenience. ment Schemes with the idea of improving However, 1 do support this Resolution our villagers. We have a number of schemes which has been moved by him. Of course, subsequently introduced by Smt. Indira what is important is not the wording of the Gandhi like IRDP, NREP, RLEGP, Tribal Resolution, not the figures mentioned in Plan and many special schemes for SC and the Resolution, but it is the spirit of the STs. Still the rural poverty remains what

Resolution which is very important. As Mr. it was when we became independent.% We Sriballav Panigrahi has said just now, should find out. the cause for this. We know regarding Rs. 10,000 crores, I am sure Shri that we have spent crores of rupees ; but Janardhana Poojary, a clever Minister that .where have all the money gone 7 1 don't he is, will certainly prove to us that he has *say that somebody has swallowed it. Unfor- provided much more than what has been tunately that has not reached the villagers recommended by the Resolution. So, the to whom it was meant. So, I would suggest figure mentioned is not important. What is that merely providing some funds >like Rs. important is how we should build an 10 crores or even Rs. 20 crores will not orderly and prosperous India. It is now 40 solve the problem, the entire political years since we achieved independence. We system must change. got political independence, but we have not yet got the independence which Mahatma We should see that a villager who has Gandh i dreamt of, that is, Ramaraj or to.be benefited should be given the power. Swaraj. Many of the hon. Members who That is what Gandhiji also wanted by way have spoken today and a Iso on the previous of decentralisation of power. Now every- occasions have depicted the condition of our thing is centralised. We sit in our State rural India. So, 1 am not going to repeat capitals or in Delhi and formulate plans. what all they have said. I only want to say We don't want the villager to have any say this. Everybody knows what are the con- in the plan. He does not know anything. ditions in our rural parts. The conditions Actually only a villager can know’ what in our rural parts are very heart-rending. priority is required for him. Give power to Everybody knows about it. We have had the people that is Gram Swaraj. the Sixth Five-Year Plan and we have spent lakhs of crores of rupees, not thous- 1 know that many States in our country ands, but lakhs or crores of rupees. But have already introduced this, they have what is the state of our villages. Even today given powers to the tiram Panchayat, I am we find that 50 per cent of the population happy to mention here that Karnataka are' living below the poverty line. State also has recently enacted a law by which Mandal Panchayat and Zilla Parishad Even today we find that villagers are will be'constituted and given not merely migrating to urban areas, ^ e should ponder money, but also full powers. Unless, you over as to why they go to urban areas. It provide funds they cannot prosper. is beCanse the economic condition of a villager cannot be improved if he remains 1 am also very happy to know that in the village. Even the village agriculturists recently the Prime Minister has issued circu- who own small holdings of three or four lars to all the State Chief Ministers and acres of land—marginal land owners— also Congress Committees that Panchayat want to go to urban areas because they lind elections shall be held immediately and they that agricultura I operation is not remune- should be given powers. It must be left to rative. They know that even a Chaprasi in the villagers lo chalk out whatever j s impor- an urban area is getting Rs. 1000 per month tant for them. I earnestly hope and strongly whereas with a I llhe sweat and toil for the urge that it is high time that Government whole year they do not get Rs. 1000/- That of India took initiative to sec that in all is the condition of India. W'hat is the the States Gram Panchayats are given suffi- answer for this ? cient powers and also Zilla Parishads are « constituted with powers. They should not 1 don't say that Government have not be made to come to the State Capitals or to done anyth ing for the last 40 years. Govern- Delhi for everything. Villagers themselves ment have done, in the First Five Year Plan must decide what is required for them, i am they introduced the Community Develop- sure the Government of India will take 309 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) ‘ RnralEconomy—Contcl. 310

appropriate steps to implement the spirit some bureaucrats are also involved in of the Resolution. corruption ? They are not interested to build up this country in such a manner as As the matter stands today, everyone Smt. Indira Gandhi had stated that I cannot wants to have power for himself. If that understand how anyone can be Indian and becomes the case, our villagers can never not be proud. What I would like to say is prosper. Another point that I would like that Smt. Indira Gandhi was a tireless to mention in this connection is th at1 even campaigner for the upliftment of the weaker now we do have Panchayats. But they are sections of the society. She initiated 20- there only for the name sake. But they don’t point programme in 1975 which was put have absoluteJy any power, nor do they into action in 1982; Manifestation of her have any funds. They don’t have money anguish for the cause of the poor was

even to pay the electricity or water charges. demonstrated in the Resolution• • for the Such is the financial condition of our Pan- economic and industrial development of the chayats. That should not be so. Therefore, - third world adopted by the Seventh NAM I would suggest that the rea 1 power should in 1983. It was attended by 103 nations. be given to the Gram Panchayats. They should be provided with sufficient funds. We know Government has already pro- Unless our villages prosper our country vided irrigation, fertilisers, electricity, cannot prosper. I,am'sure Mr. Poojary will education, IRDP, NREP, RLEGP and other take note of it and inform the Prime♦ self-employment programmes but what do Minister that in our country we should have we find in the % practical field. We have seen uniform'laws and Panchayats should be- in the Six th Five Year Plan so many States come real instruments of activity in the could not utilise the whole fund which was villages. Sir, with these words 1 support the allocated by the Centre. Even my state in Resolution moved by Shri Reddy. I also the sixth Five Year Plan returned Rs. 1200 urge that Government should accept the crores because my State Government failed Resolution moved ty Mr. Reddy, thank to use this money. W'e have seen that our you. Prime Minister whenever any State desires any money or help he is willing to give help KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE but as I have already stated maybe there (Jadavpur) : Sir, I would like to support is some lacunae. Under the IRDP pro- the spirit of the Resolution but I arrj not gramme 20 projects were set-up in the supporting the whole text of the Resolution Sixth Five Year Plan. The number of such because in;this Resolution Shri Reddy has projects wi 11 be increased to 100 by the end stated and urged upon the Government to of the Seventh Plan. allocate Rs. 10,000 crores for the growth of the rural economy during the seventh What I would like to say is that in the Five Year Plan. I think it is not proper . Seventh Five Year Plan, we are having time to bring forward this Resolution. about Rs. 10,000 crores. But that itself is 4 not enough, until and unless we consider At the outset I would like to quote that development of rural economy is in our what Panditji had said : own interest. We should be convinced about this and we have to implement this pro- “Unless there is growth in rural economy gramme heartily and with sincerity. Then there cannot be growth of the Indian only wfc can achieve our target. The economy.” economic transformation of the poorer ' * sections of our people cannot be achieved It is a fact that after Independence ‘without socia 1 transformation involving under the leadership of Panditji, Smt. Indira structural changes, educational development, Gandhi, Shri Lai Bahadur Shastri and our growth in awareness and change in outlook, leader Shri Rajiv Gandhi we afe making motivation and attitudes. progress day by day. There may y be some lacunae, Maybe there is some communica- In our Seventh Five Year Plan, our tion gap or differences between implementa- Government has already allocated money tion and monitoring ? Maybe there is some for several developmental programmes* For lacunae between honesty and sincerely and ’ IRDP we have Rs. 3473.99 crores ; for 311 Res. Re-Gron'th of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy— Contd. 312.

National Rural Employment Programme allot some more funds for these credit camps we have Rs, 2487.47 crores ; For Commu- not only for Bengal but in other States also. nity Development and Panchayat Raj There are many States where there are so Institutions Rs. 416.15 crores ; for Special many different parties. There are so many Employment Programmes Rs. 509.24 crores ; programmes which are being sponsored by for RLEGP Rs. 1743.78 crores; for Land the various State Governments. The Cen- Reforms Rs. 395.83 crores and for Integra- .♦ tral Government also should sponsor some ed Rural Energy Programme we have Rs. schemes directly, so that poor people can 47.76 crorcs. So, our Government has get the benefit. I say this because there arc already allocated this money in the Seventh some allegations that people who belong to Five Year Plan. certain parties on ly get the benefit of these programmes. If the Centre sponsors It is also a fact that our Central directly such programmes, then there will be Government is wi lling to provide to so no scope for such allegations. many villages in the country, facilities such as fertilizers, schools and colleges for I am sorry that I was not here in the education and centres for health and so on. House this morning. I was busy with some IRDP, RLEGP, NREP, etc., are formulated rally on the occasion of Panditji's birthday only for this purpose. But in reality, what celebrations.. But I heard that today there is happening in the Held ? We are no doubt, was some question by Shri Hannan Mollah looking forward to 21st Century and our regarding the loans disbursed at credit camps attitude is changing accordingly. But their and that he has criticised our Government are so many peop le whose attitude is not like any thing. But I would like to point changing at' all. For example, what is out here-in this august House that he is the happening in my State ? There arc so many man who organised this credit camp in his programmes such as IRDP, RLEGP, self- own constituency, at that time, there was no employment programmes and so on. But voice from the CPM side because they the really needy are not getting these bene- supported it. Whenever the Congress (1) fits. Moreover, these poor people are being people try to organise credit camps, then harassed like anything. On Jy those people the Chief Minister the CPM people start who belong to a perticular political party, criticising us. You will be surprised to get all the advantages of these scheme and know that I was beaten inside the Police the common people are not getting any Station mainly because of this Credit Camp benefit. which I organised in my constituency. After that instance, I thought that our Chief I am very thankful to Shri Janardhana Minister will consider me as a lady Member Poojary because he is organising the ‘Credit and will not do anything which may harm Camps'and ‘Loan Melas’ for the benefit of me. poor people. You will be surprised to know that in my State when Shri Janardhana* Because many Members spoke some- Poojary came to inaugurate the Credit thing about their own States, that was the Camp function, our Chief Minister opposed main reason why 1 wanted to speak about this programme and he even said that if my State. Shri Poojary comes there, they would beat him up. But 1 am really grateful to Shri Sir, 1 am a public representatives. There Poojary for these credit camps because is no value of public representative in my so many poor people are benefited because State, specially from the Opposition. If of these credit camps. you ask separately to the CPI, RSP and Forward Bloc people, they will also say that Thousands of people, nearly 65 per cent they are not happy with the State Govern- of our population, are living in rural areas. ment. They are also not getting the justice But those who are really poor are not getting from the hands of the State Government. the benefits of IRDP, NREP, etc. schemes. We are grateful to our hon. Minister because Only certain party people are cornering all he came and inaugurated this function only the benefits. In Bengal so many poor for the upliftment of the weaker sections. people really benefited through the credit Whatever you want to do, you have to-do camps. I would, therefore, request you to directly from the Central Government and 313 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy—Contd. 3,14

not from the State Government. The State I think the whole House and the unemployed Government totally failed to develop the youths will be very grateful to them. We •economy of the West Bengal. Thousands are grateful to our Prime Minister, because and thousands of workers are roads Government has sanctioned the tkle deeds to because of the closure of industries. The our refugees. They are very happy about State Government always criticise the Central it. This was done by our Prime Minister Government, but they are not doing any- only a couple of days ago (Interruptions/ thing for the poor people, i want to say but already the Chief Minister of West here that, at least the State Government Bengal Mr. Jyoii Basu has started the distri- must do something for the poor people. bution of these title deeds. This is an achievement of our Prime Minister Rajiv You will be surprised'to know,that there Gandhi, and it is*also my achievement— not are some rumours which are floating there that of CPI (M) people. But in order to that industries are going to become sick, and get votes, they are distributing these title are going to be closed. This is how the deeds so quickly. People know this very CPM people are managing the affair of well. West Bengal. They are instructing them to give some lumpsum money for their Party What is the condition of my State 7 The fund and unless and until they -do this, they CPI (M) people here are shouting very much, will disturb the management to close the and speaking about democracy. (Interruptions) industries. So,'I request that justice should We are a democratic people. We believe be done to the workers of West Bengal. in elections, and that is why we are here. Otherwise, how can/we be here ? 1 would also like to the hon. Minister that unemployed youths are increasing day Regarding unemployed youth, Govern- by day and he should do something for ment must consider the suggestions that I them also. have given.

We are very much concerned about this No doubt this discussion is related to problem from this side as well as from the the growth of rural economy; but I want to other side. I glad if Mr. D.N. Reddy speak about Peerless Finance & Investment brings his resolution to allocate more funds Company'because it is now in danger. So for the unemployed youth because the many field workers and officials are now recruitment in the Central Government is staying in rural areas. They came from now banned and . they are also not getting rural areas. They have built themselves up adequate opportunities to get employment in their owii rural areas. Moreover, Rs. in the State. 800 crores of public money are also deposited in this company. What has happened Now, J request that ban on recruitment * to it now 7 A new management has come. should♦ be removed because as I already It is trying to withdraw all thjs money. mentioned, unemployment amongs the youths Government must intervene in this matter are increasing day by day. This situation and protect the interests of the Peerless is very horrible in my State. So, the employees, field workers and the depositors. Central Government must intervence in this This matter is also related to rural economy. matter and do something to save the satia- We are not trying to do much for the un- tion in West Bengal. employed youth. But if we cannot do anything for the Peerless Finance & Investment Due to very -high fees-for the postal Co. to protect workers, this company will order the’talented and educated youth could be closed. There are 4,000 workers and not apply for new jobs. Generally they 4 lakh tield workers, as also* Rs. 800 crores apply for four to five jobs simultaneously, of depositors' money— all these are in because of this very high fee, how is it possi- danger. So, Government must intervene ble for them to apply for such types of job ? and lock into this matter. So, the Government must first put an end to this postal order system. I think our Prime 1 must oppose this Resolution : Rs. Minister only can consider all these things 10,000 is not a big amount. The main and if our Government is willing to do it, thing is implementation of the 7th Plan 3J5 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy—Contd. 316

« schemes with honesty and sincerely, and to 1 am happy to say that the develop- be above politics. . Rising above politics, ment of industry in the rural area has been we*must do something for the weaker sec- an important feature of our industrial policy tions of our society, not just to catch votes. of our national policy. This approach was But we shou Id serve our country in such a followed in five year plans. But I would manner that if our citizens go anywhere, like to say that still our country is far away they can take with them a new ideology and from our goal. So, this is the time to think a new thought. how can we go forward in this direction ? How can we speed up matters and how can SHRI T. BASHEER (Chirayinkil) : we develop our rural economy ? With great pleasure, 1 rise to participate in the discussion on Mr. B. N. Reddy's Resolu- Rural industry is complementary tion. This Resolution has great relevance industry to our agricultural sector. Of in the context of the economic situation in course, our agricultural sector is now • our country. So, it is an important subject. deteriorating like anything, our agricultural 1 express my gratitude to you, Sir, for giving economy, our fural economy is deteriorating me this opportunity to participate in this like anything. I have cited so many discussion. examples of my State. Farmers are suffering : they are not getting remunerative As many friends have put it, Gandhi Ji prices. had laid great stress on the development of rural India. Since 76% of India's popula- The wage of the workers had gone up tion lived in rural India, Gandhiji said that and the prices of fertilizers and all have India lived in its villages. gone up during these years. So, the agricultural farmers are in many difficulties, to So, the development of our villages is find livelihood through agriculture. So, if the most important aspect of the develop- you could not start agriculture-based indus- ment of our country, That is why I said, tries, the rural economy will not devefop, Mr. Reddy’s resolution has great importance will no.t prosper. The Government should in this context. The number of people come forward taking these aspects into living below the poverty line was estimated consideration and to plan in such a . manner at 216 millions at the beginning of 1985-86. that our agricultural economy, and agricul- All along the rural population continues to tural farmers should be helped with agricul- grow at an alarming rate and large segment ture-based industries. is pushed below the poverty line. Even by 2000 AD, over 70 per cent of the expected Gandhiji said : population will continue to live in our 3‘75 lakh villages. In our village, it is the agri- “The quality of life in the villages should culture which is the main stay or our rural be the same if not better than that of economy. The pressure of population is urban habitation. The village people high in the rura I area and is increasing. should not only be self-sufficient and The pressure on land is very much high. self-reliant, but also participate in So, it is quite naturaly that this results ui matters of their own development." migration of rural population from the rural area to the towns antf cities. This migra- So, it is high time that the Government tion leads to over crowding of towns and considers formulating policies and pro- c*lies and thereby it will have a serious grammes for the development of our villages. rcpurcussfon on the life in towns and cities. . At ihe same lime, in the rural area, we Many Members have here talked about could not afford to utilise this man power .our poverty alleviation programmes. I do of the rural folk for the development of our not agree w ith Shri Mool Chand Daga, who economy of the country. So, the pressure said that by these programmes nobody gets is in two ways. The development of the any thing, that no poor man had gained by rural economy and the rural growth is very this programme. I ‘do not agree. important in our planning process of national, development. AN HON. MEMBER ; It is a fact. 317 Res. Re-Growth of KART1KA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy—Contd. 318

SHRI T. BASHEER: It is not a fact. You I would urge upon the Government to are shutting your eyes. You are closing your take some steps in this regard. eyes. Actually these programmes have made an impact on our rural economy and our Mr. Reddy*s Resoultion urges the rural people. But the people who gained Government to allocate Rs. 10,000 crores by those programmes are there. No doubt for the growth of rural economy during the about it and of course, Kumari Mamata Seventh Five Year Plan. As many collea- Banerjee said about Loan Melas. It is gues here correctly put it, we should not true. I know, in my State * also, Shri bother about the quantum of the amount. Poojari came. There some loan melas But what I would like to say is that consi- were held. It attracted crowds. And it * dering the terrible unemployment situation was successful. In fact, many people who in the country, Government must take steps deserved these loans have got them and * for to start at least one small scale industry in many areas it was only due to these loan each block. That will help in easing the melas that they got the IRDP loans. Of unemployment situation in the country' For course they had advantage of NREP and that purpose, I would like to say that our RLEGP schemes also. country is full of resources. Government must iind out and exploit those resources We should not say that nothing has for starting such industries in rural areas. happened. In our villages the infrastructure So, Government should take steps for utili- was created, and actually it made a lot of sation of local resources by establishing achievement, in generation of mandays. and industries in villages. I know that this is developing the infrastructure in the villages. not an easy thing to do. For this purpose, But it is also true that some middlemen took Government must strengthen their data advantage of it. The money which was base and monitoring arrangements. If it is intended for the upliftment of the poor done, then only this is possible. people has not gone directly to the people. That is true. That difficulty should be So far as rural ceonomy is concerned, removed. No doubt about it. But is it our traditional industries are of great not correct to say that they are all useless * importance. We talk about starting moie programmes. When we talk about rural and more employment oriented industries in industries, Government must keep in mind rural areas. But at the same time, the pity that these rural industries will definitely of ij is that our traditional industries are provide employment opportunities, more facing acute crisis. In Kerala, as you know, production in the country and also improve thousands of people are engaged in the the economic conditions of our people in traditional industries, like coir industry* rural areas. We should not take up big brick-making industry, bidi industry, etc. I mechanised industries. Our industries should know about the coir industry. Thousands be labour intensive as in big mechanised of people iind their livelihood only by work- industries the employment scope is very ing in this industry, especially the women in limited. W'e know that in our country the the rural areas... greatest problem is of unemployment. And day by day it is increasing in an alarm- fInterruption$ ing manner. So when we plan our devel- t opmental activities, specially industries, we AN HON. MEMBER : Coconut also. should keep in mind that we should plan lor those industries which are employment SHRI T. BASHEER ; Yes coconut oriented. And that is the importance of huskk also. So, Sir, the Government must rural industries as these industries will formulate schemes for revamping the tradi- always be more emploptnent oriented. So. tional industries. This wil I provide employ- setting up of rural industries is the best ment to thousands of people. This is thing is tackling unemployment problem. actually a field where thousands of people Of’ course, we cannot put an end to the are wording. If these industries will perish, unemployment problem immediately. But then thousands of people are going to suffer. these rural industries can contribute a lot So, the Government must formulate schemes in mitigating this problem. for revamping this industry. The State 319 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy— Contd. 320-

Government of Kerala*has actually submitted poor. Why is it so ? Surely, there must be schemes for revamping the traditional indus- some loopholes which we are unable to tries like coir and all that and these schemes identify. 1 am not saying this just to are lying with the Central Government. 1 criticise the Government. Tfiere is no need hope, the Central Government will 'take •to feel offended. This is what the Hon. steps to allot enough money for this ,Prime Minister himself had stated. So I industry. would like to ask the hon. Planning Minister that when you are spending so much money, Another very disappointing feature is why are the poor not being benefitted from that these traditional industries like cashew it ? You will have to explain it. Ours is a industry and coir industry are migrating poor country and we are short of resources. from Kqrala to the nearby States because of People who represent Jndia in the World the low wages existing there. The wages Bank or other International Development existing in other States are very low. So, Organisations struggle hard to get maximum these traditional industries are migrating to loans from them for the development of the other States. We have actually been country. But it is unfortunate that out of demanding for a regional minimum wage the loans sanctioned, six hundred crores- for this industry. A national minimum dollars were drawn but were not utilised, wage is not possible, so there should be a resulting in interest ,at the rate of 0.75 per regional minimum wage to save these cent on it. In this way you will have to industries. pay 41 crore dollars as interest. You are going to pay interest on it. 1 will not take much' time. W'hat I would like to say is that the Government Ours is a poor country which is being must take steps to develop our rujal eco- run by big politicians who say that only nomy and to establish more and more rural- they can manage the affairs of the country. based industries to provide employment and Who is ^sponsible then to save the to get more production. With these words country from such a situations ? Had we I appreciate the spirit of the resolution invested this money in the country, it would n\oved by Shri D.N. Reddy. have been possible to lift the people above the poverty line but you did not do this [Translation] resulting in such a situation.

SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH Secondly, you are giving much attention (Jahanabad) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 support ‘ towards the beautification of the urban areas » this Resolution. I would like to tell for and you have spent considerable sums there- the information of the hon. Member who on. As a result thereof, people are m igrating was talking of the development of the rural to urban areas and the rural areas are gett- areas that after the independence the Govern- ing deserted. If you belong to a rural area ment had adopted capitalist system of deve- you will have to tell honestly as to what is lopment. Therefore, all the evils of capi- the condition of villages at present ? The talism are present in it. Unless socialistic people from villages are migrat ing to Punjab system of development is adopted there and Haryana and even the killings in Punjab cannot be all round development of the are not preventing them for going there. On country. Similar views were expressed by being asked, their answer is that they have our Prime Minister in the meeting on the nothing to fear. They are migrating to Chairman of Public Aocount Committees Haryana, Madras, Delhi etc. They have to on IOth of September. He had said (hat support themselves in -Delhi, with a meagre we are spending large sums of money on amount of Rs 300 to Rs. 400. Will they have the 20 Point Programme but its benef t. is any faith in this country ? This is causing not percolating to the poor. He had also maximum harm to the internal situation in said that the persons responsible for imple- the country. When there is danger to the menting the 20 Point Programme have not country from within, it provides ample been successful in finding out two things. chances to the enemies outside. The reason What are those two things !? The first thing behind all these internal problems is that is that the benefit of what we are spending the country has not made all round progress. under this programme, is not reaching the There has been lopsided development. We 3.21 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy—Contd. 322

do not have much cultivable land. The poor. that developmental woik has not been done in the rural areas posses^ only one bigha or there to the desired extent. The develop- ’two bighas of land. You have not even made ’ mental work has been totally missing in the arrangements for irrigation because of avhich villages situated in the backward areas. they can neither go in for advanced farming Even the drinking water has not been'arrang- nor can make both ends meet. ed so far *in these villages. I often tour 4 villages. J saw in a village— it is no use The farmers do not derive benefit com- mentioning its name —that the people drink mensurate with the expenditure incurred by river water by using a piece cut from the them. You might have seen what has cool-tar tin as sieve. In many villages, the happened in Bihar this jear. Money has people have been drinking water from the # *. been lavishly spent on ‘Wiscoman’ Jt arranges ditches and here we and our children enjoy for fertilizers. The managers of ‘Wiscoman’ all the facilities of life. Looking at this dis- r distributed the entire quantity of fertilizers parity they must have developed a feeling to the small shopkeepers who were the of desperation. Therefore, we shall have to Jisence holders, from the shops of ‘Wisco- do something for them also. Mere discus- man'. As a result, .the farmers had. to pur- sions will not deliver the goods. You should chase the fertilizers for Rs. 125 to Rs. 130 get the developmenta 1 works done for the instead of Rs. 95. Just think when h5 gets country. Things should be done as has been a return Jess than what he has invested, said by the Hon. Prime M inister. *You what for then should he make any invest- should go to villages and find out how the ment ? Of course, he will not be interested* funds have been utilised. It has rightly been You will have to think about it.' A number said that t-he entire money is being misap- of leaders have discussed a lot in this regard propriated by some corrupt politicians, bank but there is no * improvement to be seen. . managers and Block Development Officers. Only after improvingt h»s situation can we talk of saving the country. You always say J7.00 hrs. for your own benefit that the nation is facing a danger from outside but in fa'ct the It is a fact that people are running after danger is from within. Grant is given in petty jobs. At present, a peon does not get the name of imparting education to the much pay but he is able to earn sufficient Harijan children but ask any of the State income through unfair means, which pro- Government to tell yqu Jhonestly whether the vides him the comfort which cannot be grant is given to then in time ? Had they enjoyed even by a farmer having 10 bighas got this grant in time they would have of land. That is why people try to secure a showij very good results ih education. In job even by paying bribe. Now there will fact, the money is received after two years not be good and able engineers and over- and then it is spent on household require- seers. The college drop outs manage to get ments. You do not provide this grant in admission for the overseers examination by time for the intended purpose, with th* paying Rs. 30,000. They are given an assu- result that it does not benefit theqi. In my rance, which is fulfilled. How then such constituency a sum of Rs. 5 lakhs was overseers would plan for this country 7 You granted for the poor Harijan; scheduled are out to destory this country. If the . caste and scheduled tribe children but it country is destroyed then you and I also was spent on the maintenance of law and cannot survive because we are not above order. They have not received this money so the country. Therefore, if you really want far. You claims to be4 the only supporters to save this country then you should make- of the *poor and are engaged in the welfare a confidential enquiry into how people are of the Harijans. But actually you have becoming millionaries. It is only because of misguided them and they are realising this such things that killings are taking place in ihing gradually. It is beyond doubt that you the’xillages. Jahanabad was made a District \vill have to face its consequences. on 1st August but between \hat date and October, the number of persons that were You must be reading daily in the news- killed reached 88. When it was in Gaya papers about Jahanabad. You will have to District, 100 persons were killed between f nd out as to why Jahanabad has become 1st January and 31st July but with its for- so sensitive an area. One of the reasons is mation as a district. 44 persons are being 323 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy—Contd. 324 ♦ • killed every month. When it was not a dis- crops, far from scllfng their produce to earn trict then only 14 persons used to he killed money ; they cannot get enough for their in a month but with its formation as a new own consumption throughout the year. In district, ifumber of incidents of killings has many villages, the schools exist in name increased manifold. You are enacting new only. If you look at the houses where laws to suppress the workers. There has these schools are located, tears will roll down been a project which will help in getting rid your eyes. They are all delapidated struc- of famine and drought in this area and tures— there is hardly any space where which will cover seven Blocks. This project students can sit. After the primary level, there is called Pun pun Dardha Irrigation Project. is no facility for the rural students to pursue It is lay ing pending for the last six years their studies. The situation is particularly with C.W.C. I would request that this difficult for the girls for whom we have no scheme be cleared and also allocations be facility for vocational education. We must fnade for it separately. Vocational education all confess that still today we do not want should be imported to bring the misguided to send our girls to unknown places and as a youth on the right path. result the girls do not get any vocational edu- cations and they have nothing but a bleak With these words, I conclude. future. As a result of these difficulties, we find that hundreds of people are migrating from VDR. PHULRENU fiUHA (Contain) : villages to the towns. Some of them get Mr. Chairman, Sir, we are today discussing employment while others do not get any. a special subject on a special day. We Even those, who get employment lead ia surely cannot say that there has been no miserable life-. For years they remain development in our country or that our separated from their family. They have country has not progressed. In our country ' no social life. We have to consider the. in 1947 not even a needle was produce^. mental state of such* person because in such But today we are producing all the sophisti- circumstances many prt>blems— social and cated goods produced anywhere else in the otherwise- -crop up and it is now time that world. But side by side I will also say we should consider them. Any delay to that the wealth produced in our country is graple with the situation will lead us all to* not being equally distributed. Today the a very difficult situation. We talk of amount of development that is 'taking place delinquent children we talk of other social in the cities, the better and better standard evils but if we go at»th** root of the prob- of life that the people in the cities are en- lem then we will find that we can rjot joying is not percolating to the rural areas. eradicate these evils# unless we are able to The rural folk are not getting anything in Jmprove the economic condition of our comparison. We have to admit with regret villages. Not only this. We generally find that even today there arc many such villages that the people of the Villages have many in our country where there are no road, good qualities, but because of the total lack where no cycles or bullock carts can ply. of facilities for cultural development all People have to travel only on foot and thnit these qualities gradua lly get smothered and too over the embankments. Not only that they eventually die a natural death. In Sir, I will say w'ith sorrow and shame that villages we'have different erafts but we have even now there are many such villages.where no facility for their marketing, Thus, much even drinking water is not available. That of the handicrafts made in villages are not is why this discussion today is of great im- sold. All these we have to ponder seriously portance. For want of water, cultivation and find a way out. We have no. hospitals cannot be done at. many places. What to in villages. When a child falls seriously ill . speak of two crops even one crop cannot be or when an expectant mother needs medical raised. The village people exist on agricul- aid they have to be taken to far off places ture and agriculture is their only means of * and in many cases the patients die on their livelihood. . But since they do not get water way to the hospital. We cannot any longer or fertilizer as required, they cannot produce keep ignoring such vital issues. Sir, the good crops. As they cannot produce good resolution mentions about the allocation of funds but I would like to say that mere ‘The speech was Originally delivered in allocation of funds will not take us any- Bengali. where. Jt is not enough that we should 325 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23. 1908 (SAKA) Rural E conom y-C ontd. 326

allocate more funds but we must also ensure House towards an important issue. The that the funds allocated are really used for urban population is *on the increase. The the purpose for which they* have been reason being the elimination of the self allocated. The Planning Commission has generating economy of our rural areas. already made a jlocations for the economic Therefore, the migration of the people from programmes for the villages. I will demand rural areas to the urban areas in quite that the Commission should make more natural. allocations for this purpose but along with this I will urge upon the Planning Commission But I could not understand the objec- to ensure that moneys a llocated are being tive behind the demand of Rs. 10,000 crores properly utilised. Sir, with great regret I for the rural economy because adequate would like todraw the attention of the House funds have been provided under our Seventh to one news item. On 1.11.1986,-to a news- Five Year Plan for improving the rural paper called ^ Che tana'* which is published economy, which are much more than Rs. from contai, which is the worst affected area 10,000 crores. of the reccnt floodsjn our State has stated that a sum of Re. 1 crore has been disbursed Mr. Chairman, sir, you should also see by Midnapore Zila Parishad for irrigation The advancement made by other countries as and other work. Certificates have been compared to in the our country .field of obtained from the Gram Panchayats that agriculture. The speed with which our work worth Re. 1 crores has been done country has made the progress in agricul- when the work really done is not of that ture is unparalleled. No other country has worth as says the press report. It has also achieved self-reliance the way we have been stated that out of the allocation of achieved. Today we have a buffer stock of Rs. one crore a sum of Rs. 10 lakh has 15 crore tonnes of sugar-cane. This is in been given to the CPM party fund by con- spite of all the floods and drought. Even tractors. This as j said is what has appeared after these calamities, our agricultural pro; in the press and I would request that a full duction is not going to be affected. We have inquiry should be made in this regard. maintained this level and are going to • achieve a higher production. I would conclude by stressing the allocations of funds should be made to achieve Not only this. In the field of Science, an all round development of the village and ours is the sixth place in the world today. not for a particular aspect of the village Our country has achieved 10th place in the economy. We no doubt need more money world in the field of Industrial production. because wc should have more and better It is all as a result of the develoffment work roads for the villages ; we should have more done by the Government ruled by the hospitals, more schools particuarly voca- Congress Party. If you look at the achieve- tional schools'for village boys and girls. We ments of the Government, these are not have to create a situation in the vi llages less. But if we look at these achievements where a villager can earn his own living from the point of view of development of being in the village and he has not to • villages, the. of course, we < find that the migrate to towns as such migrations give Government's objectives have not been ful- birth to many social evils. With a sense of filled. Our Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi regret I would stress once again that the and the late Shrimati Indira Gandhi have Planning Commission will have to keep a always been stressing that the benefit of the strict vigile to ensure that the funds development should reach the distant allocated are used properly and for the villages also. purpose for which they have sanctioned in a much better way than what is being done Mr. Chairman, Sir, recently, I visited a now. With this 1 end my speech. tribal district of Bihar where poverty eradication programmes are being run. In my SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA constituency also, these programmes are (Robertsgarij) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, first of being run for the tribals. Sir, these pro- «I1 1 wish to thank my colleague Shri D.N. grammes are not being implemented Reddy for drawing the attention of the according to the instructions of the Plann- House and of the country, through this ing Commission and the Government. The 327 Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 Rural Economy ^Contd. 328

reason behind it is th*t these programmes programmes for the backward areas. The have been confined only to the villages Planning Commission has identified the which are close to the cities or which are areas but their programmes have not been already developed or which have bank implemented. They required attention. 1 facitilieS. As Shri Daga has staled, some suggest that for the future implementation officers, big wigs of the society and social of programmes, Block should be taken as a .organisations are also not letting these pro- unit for determining backwardness. Then grammes ’be implemented. Some corrupt only the things will move. leaders are also responsible for it. You have got the poverty eradication programme So far as our Planning is concerned we evaluated. You will have to iind out as to have formulated many plans. Today we how Mirzapur District ha*s been adjudged should resolve to derive full results from first in implementating the 20 Point Pro- the projects we have - completed. If we gramme. There are a lot of distant villages increase the capacity utilisation of electricity in that district which have ' not been by 5 per cent, we can certainly save crores developed. You have decided to uplift 600 of rupees and can provide more electricity. families in one Block each above the There will be a gap of 10 thousand MW by poverty line, You should provide financial the end of fhe Seventh Five Year Plan. We aid to the six hundred families of a • con- should ensure maximum utilisation of our glomeration of villages so that all the villages capacity through the Lignite Corporation, can be developed. But the poor are not get- N.T.P.C. etc. When the electricity generating the help as it is not reaching the villages. tion in the private power houses can go ♦Therefore, mere evaluation by* the Planning upto 103 to 105 per cent, why th£ output of Commission will not be sufficient. You will our Electricity Boards cannot b? increased ? have to care for the quality as well and will There also the level factor caii be upto 60 have to follow the hon. Prime Minister's to 75 per cent but we arc not paying atten- directions on development programmes. Only tion to improve the situation. There are then development of villages can be done. 90 thousand sick mills in the country today. Therefore, I suggest that the programme Why ? Labour trouble is not the caose. In should be strictly implemented as only one 52 per cent cases, mills have been closed ye^r of the Seventh Five Year Plan so far down due to mismanagement. Today we has elapsed. should think of recommissioning them and modernising them. It is quite surprising (Interruptions) that two factories of a capitalist are running » in pro‘it while his two other factories are Besides, the Planning Commission has incurring losses. This is because he has recognised backward districts as the basis*, transferred the capital of the loss-incurring for establishing industries in villages. There factories to the profit earning factories. The has been discussion for the last 7 to 8 years Planning Commission needs to take some k> recognise Block as the basis for back- strong steps today. There is no dearth of wardness. Shivaraman Committee and some developmental progrommes. What is lack- other committees were appointed but the ing is the proper implementation. It should Note for the Cabinet has not so far been be done with honesty and dedication. We prepared. I demand that instead of taking should have less faith in paper work and the district as a unit, you should think of Planning Minister should make, it a point to developing the tribal Blocks, Harijan Blocks keep these things in mind. i.e. 6 types of areas, like hill areas, desert areas, cyclone hit areas, tribal areas, flood The evaluation work is going on and we hit areas and drought hit areas which have have received the report. We have noticed been recognised by the Planning Commission that private agencies have been involved in as# the basis of backwardness and for this this work. If some district or Block stands rBlock should be taken as a unit. It has first it is not necessary that the benefits of been clearly indicated in the 20 Point Pro- development have percolated to the levels of gramme also that special efforts will be village panchayats and ‘gram-sabhas also. made to increase the production in the areas The results will have to be measured keeping where culti\ation depends on rains. But in view the work done at this level. If ‘the you have not paid any attention to the State Governments do not perform this work 329 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAK.A) * Rural Economy—Contd. 330

then we should appoint sonic agency on visiuiuho villages and same is the position behalf of the Planning Commission to over- in regard to planning regarding hill areas. see the utilization of money because we are I think all the elected representatives of this providing it. august. House come from .v^lages. When we legislate we try to provide benefit to 17.20 hrs. that section which exploits us the most. I 0 hail from Himachal Pradesh. In our area (SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair] the farmers grow apples, potatoes,* tomatoes ft and some other crops. We have to spend You want me to resume niy seat. I am lakhs of rupees to transport the produce to a disciplined soldier. I conclude by request- the market. Then, we have to depend on ing Shri Reddy to withdraw his Resolution commission agents who charge a big coin- and urge the Government to pay attention mission to market them and even then they"" to my suggestions. I thank you Tor giving do not arrange the sale properly. In this way me time to speak. ; * our economic condition can never improve. A greater part of the money given to the [English] States should be used for rural development. Formulation of policies should not be done MR. CHAIRMAN ; I think the House in the rooms. Today the condition of will extend the time for this Resolution by schools is miserable. Many things arc said one hour. about the education system. The sons of the villagers, labourers and farmers cannot THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE compete. The children of big Zamindars MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY and rich persons become I.A.S. and l.P.S. AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT): officers. The ordinary children from the I am assuming that we will close today by villages pass in second or third division. 6 O’clock. Merit holders and first dhisioners are given preference in jobs. It is said that a merit MR. CHAIRMAN : We will sit upto list will be prepared and you know as to 6 O'clock today. The time for this Resolu- who is covered in merit list. This gap tion has been extended by one more hour. between the villages and cities is increasing Now Mr. Sultanpuri will speak. because we do no* plan properly and later on blame them. Plans are' not properly I Translation1 implemented in villages. If some teachers are to be transferred, the politicians start sending D.O. letters to prevent the transfers SHRI K.D.• «* SULTANPURI (Simla): Mr. Chairman, Sir, our Government took a to rural areas on the plea that it will be commendable step by formulating the Plans difficult for them to go there and as such he and through them, developing the country. should not be transferred to the rural areas. Panditji became the first Prime Minister and The standard of education of our children f resolved to take the country forward. All in villages is so low that they always fail .in these programmes could be possible only the examinations with the result that they because of Panditji was the Prime Minister. cannot get the job. Who gets the jobs ? Shri Lai Bahadur Shastri assumed the # Most of them are’*. Children of Zamin* leadership of the country to take these plans dars are also among them. The way Rajputs further. He tried to take the country and Brahamihs quarrel among themselves, ahead. After him, Prime Minister, Shri- • they can never go ahead and same is the mati Indira Gandhi made efforts to carry position of the Harijans. We find that people this nation forward. Our country has from rural areas do not get employment remained in lead in the field of industry, and our Plans are to be blamed for this. rur^l and urban development. Shri Reddy We have formulated a new education policy has brought a very good Resolution. I and the Hon. Prime Minister wants to take think certain shortcomings remained in our the country forward with its help. In the National Planning and Rural Planning. All public school they do not admit boys from the Planning was done while sitting away villages. Moreover, they do not have money from the field of action, just as the planning for Punjab was done in Simla. No one ##Not recorded. 33] Res. Re-Growth of NOVEMBER 14, 1986 , Rural Economy— Contd. 332: to pay to them so that they may jjecome days to reach there. It is a border area but doctors or engineers. They have only one there is no provision of metalled roads. feeling that we have to take the country From Simla, we may go to Delhi or Bombay forward. we shall Iind metalled roads and railway & lines but in villages, there are no roads. As [English] a result of this, we are not in a position to- bring our produce to the markets and that MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Sultanpuri you is why we do not make any progress. Kalka- have made reference to a caste and a com- Simla road was constructed during the munity. That will not from part of (he British regime and since then no new road record. has been constructed there. The areas of Kinnaur and Rampur also do not have [Translation] roads. 1 would request the Planning Minister who belongs to Himachal Pradesh and is SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI ; 1 suggest sitting in the House, to increase the funds that majority of the new school should be for electricity from Rs. 1400 crores to Rs. opened in villages so that the villagers may 2800 crores so that we.may make progress. make progress. During the Sixth Five Year If you formulate the Plans sitting in Delhi, Plan, when our Prime Minister Shrimati then the development of the people living Jndira Gandhi was alive, she had presented in hill regions is not possible. They cannot 20 Point Programme to uplift the poor. They make progress. The reason is that in plains were given ownership' rights of land. But bricks, cement, sand and other raw' material what is happening today 7 People in cities are easily available. As compared to the like Shimla, Bombay «ind Delhi are owning plains the construction work costs many palatial buildings and there is no law' to times more in hill areas whether they are of stop them to own so much wealth. If we Garhwal, Mizoram,. Arunachal, Gangtok, want to eradicate poverty, a law should be Kashmir or Himachal Pradesh, Therefore, I enacted to nationalise the properties of the want that you should chalk out a programme rich people so that the cultivators who arc in a planned manner and make provision becoming landless may get land. The back- of mois funds for the development of hill ward^ people living in rented houses for areas in the Seventh Five Year Plan. Our many years should be made the owners of hill aiea is a border area. We have common those properties by nationalising the pro- border with Punjab State and on the upper perties. Similarly, some facilities should side we have China's border. The incidents also be provided to the workers. Everyday taking place in adjoining areas affect we hear about the rampant corruption in Himachal Pradesh also and’that is why we D.D.A. Shri Gouri Shankar, who is present t could not make much progress. The people here, has also said that the previous Minister of Kashmir are wise people. The National had to go because of this. Our Government Conference joined hands with the Congress has been trying to apprehend and put Party. If they adopt the same policy in corrupt people behind bars. But they engage future also, the State will definitely progress big lawyers who get them released on bail. and all the people will be benefited. I want Now-a-days, efficient persons are those who that you should make special provision for can argue successfully. Those people come the hill areas of Himachal Pradesh because here who, instead of putting fourth people's * large scale soil erosion is going on there and grivance, talk* about themselves. But if we as a result there of, entire soil is flowing want to take the country towards progress, down. The problem is the same whether it is we shall have to think about the upliftment in Uttar Pradesh or in Himachal Pradesh. of the rural backward whether they are Recently, the Kangra Valley experienced an Harijans or belong to any other community. earthquake arid we demanded aid from the So long as we do not improve the condition Central Government. The Hon. Prime of our villages nothing good can be achieved. Minister, first of all told me that earthquaek The matalled roads are not there in the has caused heavy loss in Kangra Valley and villages. There is lack of roads in the hill an aid of Rs. 4 crorcs was sanctioned to areas. I had an opportunity to visit the us therefor. In addition to it, Rs. 13 crores constituency of the hon. Minister from were spent b> the State Government also. Lnhaul-Spiti to Khurd which took me two I want that you should release the rest of 333 Res. Re-Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 fSAKA) Rural Economy—Contd. 334

■thfc amount at the earliest. Similarly, in in Uttar Pradesh, how will he work there ? West Bengal also heavy rains caused great You have adopted a policy under which loss but the people of urban areas did not new petrol pumps are allotted to a person come forward to the help of the rural areas. who is already having 100 Petrol pumps. The rich peopte do not come forward to help New Gas agencies are being given to those in such evcntua lities. It is our Congress who are a leady having agencies and those ■Government and Congress Party workers people w'ho are already having transport who work tirelessly day and - night in the agencies are being given new agencies. On •calamity stricken areas. At the time 'of any the other hand, rural people are not getting calamity, they work with dedication and anythings. You are paying your entire atten- -determination. Our Prime Minister himself tion towards urban areas. It is Shri Reddy went there and only then the villagers could who has advocated the cause of the rural get any help. Several M.Ps from Bengal also people. I, therefore, congratulate him and accompanied the Prime Minister on the he has taken a right step by presenting this tour, Sometime back Andhra Pradesh also Resolution with these words I support thfc suffered a heavy Joss and our Hon. Prime Resolution. Minister gave full help to it also. Our Government gives full help to ^11 the cala- ' . SHRI ANAND1 CHARAN DAS mity stricken areas. If we want to improve (Jajpur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, this Resolu- the economic condition of our villages, then tion has pointed out the disparties between fir^t of all"we shall have to make permanent the urban areas and the rural areas. I arrangements for transporting their produce would like to throw light as to why these to the markets. When they get reasonable * disparties have increased ? Shri Reddy has prices of their produce only then they will demanded a sum of Rs. 10,000 crores but as be benefited. But at present if you look at. per ihev present allocation, Rs. 18 lakh the Agricultural Board or Banking Board, is spent on each Block. There arc 5000 you will find people there who have no ‘Gram Panchayats’ in our country. Thus knowledge of the concerned l:eld. In the you can calculate as to how much money is Agriculture Board such Members have been being circulatcd there on various schemes. included who have never handled a plough In this way if you calculate, you wifi find or a tractor. In the Banking Board also,* that Rs. 10:000 crores is not too much. I such people have been included who have do not think this disparity can be removed never lived in the hill areas. They want by this amount because as has been discussed that someone should complain against them here the actual thing is that the Plans are so that they may. be transferred to some not properly implemented. Therefore, so city. Jusi now I was talking of the third long as this system is not changed and ex- division and second division. By that I ploitation of the rural people is not stopped,' meant to say that you should make a pro- the benefits, of our schemes and programmes vision in the recruitment rules that these will not reach the poor. Mostly the agri- people who are well acquainted with the cultural labourers work in the villages. Our problems of the hill areas, will be posted Prime Minister has given very good pro- there. And if you have to nominate any grammes and schemes to the country. The person to any Board you should nominate RELGP is one such scheme under which such persons only. every rural landless family is to be provided at least hundred days work in a year. I Mr. Chairman, Sir, j will speak for * would like to ask in this House whether a another five minutes. 1 am thanfful to you. single landless family can be pointed out in You are a very liberal person. In all the this country which has been provided 50 Boards, including Banking Recruitment days work in a year ? The saipe contract Board in hill areas, adequate representation system is going on everywhere. should be given to the local people. If you appoint a person belonging to the plains in The schemes like NREP and RLEGP • Kashmir; how will he understand the pro- are going on but under these schemes income blems of that area and lake a right decision? tax is still deducted. I have asked the If you post someone from Delhi io Himachal OFissa Government also but it did> not pay Pradesh, he cannot work in Lahaul-Spiti. any attention towards it. We all want to II you appoint a person belonging to Bengal have a society free from exploitation but 335 Res. Re-Growth of ' NOVEMBER 14, 19#6 Rural Economy—Contd. 3,36

how will it be possible because you arc 1 would like to make one suggestion. encouraging capitalistic economy. How all Majority of the population in villages c’on- will get equal rights then 7 11' you go on sists of the farmers. So long as agricultural encouraging capitalism, then the backward reforms are not made, irrigation facilities are classes, Adivasis, Harfjans and farmers will not provided and more employment oppor- not get any benefits from these Plans. tunities are not provided to the villagers, Therefore, 1 would request you,to eliminate they cannot improve their production and exploitation. The black money is increasing they will not get their due and till then constantly but no-body is bothering about it. nothing _ useful• can be done for them. Jf more and more money gets accumulated in few hands, then the condition of villagers • With these words, I would Jike to say will der nitely deteriorate. that our Government has done much more than what has been asked for in the Resolu- Who comes to the cities 7 The educated tion. The Resolution is not adequate to people of the villages come to the citics. improve the condition of our rural areas.

They become BDOs .Engineers and officers The Resolution should, « therefore, • be with- ancf settle in cities. They do not live in drawn. t villages. They construct their houses in the cities, and let them out on rent. They also DR. G r S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur) : earn from their agricultural land in villages Mr. Chairman, Sir, the problem is very and in this way they earn money frorp serious! 1 have to say only this, much that both sides and become capitalists. But those you have provided T.V. network throughout who live in villages, do not get even ‘mini- the country but electricity does not remain mum wages of Rs. 7 or 10 or*20 a$ fixed by available and people watch television W'ith you. You should pay attention toward, this ' the he If of battery. It is a very serious also. matter. Whenever I go to the villages 1 hear the people's talk. They say that earlier they Our Government has provided various used to hear fairy tales but now they watch facilities in every Block. The facilities of fairies on television. People w'onder as to cinema, schools and hospitals have been pro- whether such things .really happen in this vided there but even then people are migra*. country 7 The .types of houses, motors, ting to the cities. Why 7 What are the bungalows etc. that arc shown on the tele- reasons of their migration from rural areas vision make the villagers dumbfounded. to urban areas ? A villager comes here for * stealing because here nobody checks him and You will definitely enter the 21st century nobody knows him. That is why he comes to but the exploited will also be with ôu who the city.. He is totally a-stranger there and will be a hindrance, because he is now aware that is why stealing is more easy. Therefore how he is being exploited 7 Whatever I W'ould say that even if you spend_ 100 times economic progress we may make, only urban more than Rs. 10,000 crores nothing is areas are.' reaping the benefits and the rural going to be acheivcd. * It is possible only areas arc being left behind. when we change the present system of our country and check *the exploitation. For Does it look nice that even after 39 or 40 •this we shall have to fix a ceiling on the pro- years of Independence, we have not been perty of the individuals and the capital of able to prosidc drinking water to the people. companies. We do not want to become a • 1 would like to ask as to where the allocated socialist country like China and U.S.S.R, funds for îbwells and hand pumps have India is a big country with large population ' gone 7 The roads appear to be of 10th and if you continue with the present policy century. Where that money has gone which for a Jong period that will not do any good was to be .spent on these roads 7 Nobody ând will create troubles in future. dares to ask these questions. How can you Therefore, you should follow the path of exonerate yourself of your responsibility by socialism and for this purpose, you will have saying that it is responsibility of the State to adopt the same policies as had been Government and not yours 7 No State adopted by Shrimati Indira Gandhi. Otherwise Government can refuse to answer as to where the disparity w ill go on increasing. the money provided has been misused 7 A* 337 Res. Re- Growth of KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) Rural Economy— Contd. 338 large scale plundering is going on and all villages but they do not even have a morsel the resourceful people are involved in it. of, food to fill their stomach; who are half- As has been pointed out by one of the hon. starved and half-clothed. . Member, a person is appointed B.D.O. and , within three years he earns Rs. 10 lakhs and In the pre-independence days, there was constructs a house In the city. If anyone a moving motion picture by the name “A becomes a civi 1 Engineer, he amasses, Rs. Farmer’s Son”. In that picture, the plight 50 lakh in four years. He need not to of the villagers was depicted; the very misery deposit his money in the Banks of Switzer- of a village was depicted; how the labour land; he can deposit his money in our in a village had been robbed and exploited. neighbouring country, Nepal. Thus it is a That is somewhere in 1935-36. There was very serious matter. a song in that picture depicting the situation • • in a village. The meaning of the song is Much is claimed about electricity. The like this that there is not even a road in a poles £re erected but power is, not supplied villê. Even if we wanted to take our for years together. 1 have suggested umpteen produce to a market place, we did not have limes that something should be done to check a road; no bullock-cart went there. The the flow of the rivers originating from Nepal. ryots were suffering. Our villages were not We can get so much electricity from them even worth a single pie. Our agriculturists that requirement of the entire northern India were suffering, our labourers were suffering can be met from them but it is a matter of becai/se they were not able to get even a regret that nobody pays any attention regular type of price for their produce. ‘towards it. This is the song. Even though it was in the pre-independence days, even now it holds You go to any village. You will see good. J think you are from the Village; that that there is only one pond there in which is why you are able to understand it. cattle and men bathe together, ease themselves and also drink the same water. This Even now, thousands and thousands of is what is happening in the villages. On the villages are there, but the agriculturists do other hand, a well furnished bathroom with not have even roads or at least kucha roads- beautiful tiles is shown on the television. to take their produce to the market places. For how long shall we tolerate these thing ? 1 do not know how long it will take to You should think ov^r it. Are you not connect those villages with rail to market even prepared to see the condition of the places. It* may take even a century* to rural areas ? The situation has become very enable the government to provide railway precarious. You should not release the linkage for the villages so that they may entire allocation at once. Get the schemes make their produce to the market places. implemented strictly. The funds allocated for the rural development should actually be Even after 40 years of independance, if spent for that purpose. You simply discuss we are not in a position to provide even here that so much funds have been allocated roads for the villages, how can we talk of but in actual practice it is no use. rural economy? Our rural economy is completely in a shambles; it is completely Now-a-days, who- are the people to ruined. whom the Bank loans are granted 7 Only the middlemen and the resourceful people Let us take, the agricultural product are getting Joans. You should seriously price. Who is the man who fixes up the think over it. prices for these products ? An agriculturists has no hand in it at all. This price is fixed [English] up by those people who are sitting in Delhi faraw ay from the medding crowd. They SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY do not know the travails and tribulations, (Hindupur) : It is a very good subject; that and the travails o f the villagers. They do is why I congratulate Mr. D. N. Reddy for not know how they work in scorching Sun bringing this subject. Ik is a very t good and they do not know the effects of rain. subject because ft concerns millions and ■They cto not know how' the villagers live in millions of those villagers who are living in mucjg houses, not protected from sun, rain 339 I-P-O. Bill, 1UM NOVEMBER 14, 1986 I,P.O. Bill, 1USG 3 40 and cold. These people who stay here in Sericulture is very much there in villages. air-conditioned rooms in the third, tenthôr The villagers are.only exploited in this res- twentieth floors, these bureaucrats do not pect. The agriculturist gets the yield through know anything about rural economy, they do sericulture. They produce silk from them.. not know how the villagers are living and But, alas, there, are no* spinning mills to they fix up the prices of the agricultural either spin the thread or mill the thread. commodities. 1 do not know what is the They go to the towns. From the towns the justification. In this House 80 per cent of yarn is again brought to the villages. Why Members are from rural areas. Why not should their this sort of thing happen ? Why some Members of Parliament be associated should their ..cocoons be sent elsew'here for with the Agricultural Prices Commission spinning ? Can you not start a big factory so that they can give the agriculturists a good to avoid those people sending their cocoons price '? to the towns ? • *

I will bring it to your notice how an Again take ground nut oil. If you go agriculturist is being exploited. This- year, and see the small towns you will see the day-before yesterday only, the price of sugar- agriculturists producing the ground nut. cane has been raised from Rs. 17 to Rs. 18 Poor people depend on it. If you do not per quintal. Only one rupee is the increase. give good price for it, the poor people, the Last year itself the Andhra Pradesh Govern- agriculturists will suffer. But the short- ment seeing that the price of sugar-cane is sighted policy of the bureaucrats does not very very low, they have raised it by Rs. 6/-. allow the agriculturists to be helped. Ground Now here, .these bureaucrats they do not nut oil is used by a number of people, poor want to help the ryots. Even' ifthe Party people and rich people. But for crushing whether it is Congress, Telugu. Desam or the ground nuts there is no crushing mill. Communist whatever may be the Party that The crushing-mill is some two hundred miles is in power, if.those politicians w'ant to help away from the villages. Therefore, the they have almost become prisoners in the ground nut is taken there by the villagers. hands of the bureaucrats. That is why the Why this anomaly, I am not able to under- bureaucrats are . ruling. Even if the Party stand. In the villages the crushing mill people they^vant to help a little the farmer should be thei£ so that right from there they these bureaucrats do not allow. If the price can produce oil. of sugar is raised by half a rupee per kg., m you can give Rs. 50/- pfcr quintal to the In this way the economy of the villages agriculturist. But these bureaucrats, they has been completely and deliberately stitfled. will not allow it. because their interests will The man there has been ruined. l4e has been suttcr. If yru are able to increase the price subjected to exploitation. There are poverty * of sugar by 50 paise per one kilogramme, alleviation programmes. ‘Government is the agriculturist will get Rs. 50 to 60 per spending crorcs of rupees. But the plight of quintal. Why do you not do it ? villagers has not improved much. Only one thing is true that the Government is cert- I know that there are many people who ainly spending crores of rupees, But the are sympathetic towards the farmer, and plight of the villagers has not made much even at present in the Cabinet also there are progress. Recently 1 had an occasion to go people who want to help the agriculturists. to some of the north-eastern States like Blit because of these people of the organised Assam, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh. scctor, people who have got vested interests While we were touring those areas, I wanted with big moneyed people, they do not allow- to sec how a villager live there. I requested it lo happen. some of my people to go to the house of a .villager to iind out as to how he is living The prices of the essential -commodities there. In Arunachal Pradesh and Assam we are maintained at the cost of the agriculturist went and saw a Village. I discussed with the w'ho is after all the person who l-nds it people there. I asked them about IRDP, difficult to make both ends meet in the NREP programmes. They said that they villages, j will tell you how the villagers had not e\en. heard of them at all. They arc arc exploited. still living in primitive houses, made of < 341 /.P.O. Bill, 1986 > KARTIKA 23, 1908 (SAKA) I.P.O. Bill, 1986 342 * 1 *

bamboos with no walls. They told us that Mr.D.N.Reddy has asked for Rs. 10,000 these people were not giving any school, any crores. This is not a big sum considering house site to them. The agriculturist said our Budget of Rs. 50,000 to Rs. 60,000 that "they were not given any fertiliser crores and considering that 70 per cent of pesticide, seed, etc. This is the way in which, our population is from rural India. Please these programmes are being implemented. take into consideration the plight of the We see lot of statistics. There is a poem in vi llages as to how a person is living there. Telugu which says : “Anke Landunde Abhi I request you to go to the village, see the Vriddhi Chasjka Podugu”;. it means that • the plight of the villagers, talk to them, discuss improvement in the life of the villager is with them and then come forward with some shown in statistic upto the arm pit. The schemes so that these Daridra Narayanx are statistics are an ass. They do not give the helped to lead a better life. true picture. They say that so' much money has been spent. But I challenge this Govern- 18.00 hrs. ment’ let us go to the house of a villager without notice. Let us see what food he The Lok Sabha then adjourned tilt ['\ ven takes. That food has no nourishment. It has of the Clock on Monday, Novemhe 17, no,taste. He takejs that food to keep himself 1986 Kartika 26, 1908 (Saka) alive. I think, we may even refuse to touch that food. The poor villager is exploited in every way.

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