Eighth Series, Vol. XXIX; No. 58 Thursday, August 6, 1987 Sravana 15. J 909 (Saka}
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Eighth Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
( Yol. XXIX eontain.r NoJ. 51 IO 60)
LO.K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Prlr� · R.6, 6.00 CONTENTS
[Eighth Ser;~s, Vol. XXIX, Eighth Session-Second Part, 198711909 (Saka)J No. 58, Thursday, August 6, 19B7/SrlNana 15, 1909 (Saka)
·COLUMNS
Homage to Victims of First Atomic Bombs dropped on Hiroshima 1-2
Oral Answers to Questions:
·Starred Questions Nos. 141, 142. 144 to 146 148 and 149 2-29
Written Answers to Questions:
Starred Questions Nos. 147 and 150 to 160 ... 29--48
Unstarred Questions Nos. 1532 to 1546, 1548 to 1561, 1563 to 1572, 1574 to 1620, 1622 to 1706 and 1708 to 1732 ... 49 448
Papers Laid on the Table ... 451--459
Messages from Rajya Sabha ... 459-460
Bills, as passed by Rajya Sabha 460
Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions-
Thirty-eighth Report presented 461
Matters Under Rule 3n ... 461-466
(i) Non-availability of text books based on new syllabus
Shri M.L. Jhikram
(ii) Demand for telecast of Sindhi Programmes on Channef 1 instead of Channel 2 on Bombay Doordarshan
Shri S.G. Ghotap 461
The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (i) (ii)
COLUMNQ (iii) Demand for immediate clearance to Bawanthadi Irrigation Project
Shri Keshaorao Pardhi 462
(iv) Demand for effective measures to root out corruption
Shri Anadi Charan Das 463
(v) Demand for setting up rubber based industries in Kanya Kumari, Tamil Nadu
Shri· N. Dennis 464
(vi) Demand for setting up a public sector industry in Tirupati in Andhra Pradesh
Dr. Chinta Mohan 464
(vii) Demand for converting Bittragunta Loco shed into an Electric Loco P.O.H. Shed in Andhra Pradesh
Shri B.N. Reddy 465
(viii) Demand for nH)pening the Ashok Paper Mills, Darbhanga in Bihar
Dr. G.S. Rajhans 465
Payment of Gratuity (Amendment) BiII- 466 484, 573-596 Motion to consider, as passed by Rajya Sabha
Shri K.N. Pradhan 466
Dr. Datta Samant 468
Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas 476
Shri Sharad Oighe 480
Dr. Chandra Shekhar Tripathi 573
Shri Madan Pandey 576
Shri Harish Rawat 579
Shri P.A. Sangma 581 Clauses 2 to 9 and 1 ~tion to pass- Shri P.A. Sangma 596 (iii)
COLUMNS
Motion Re:· appointment of a Joint COmmittee to enquire into the issues arising from the Report of Swedish National Audit Bureau on the Bofors Contract-... 484 569
Shri Rajiv Gandhi 484
Shri Narayan Datt Tiwari 485
Shri K.C. Pant 511
Statement Re: Progress achieved so far in the implementation of the Indo-Sri Lanka Agreement to establish peace and normalcy in Sri Lanka ... 569-573
Shri K. Natwar Singh 569
Conservation of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of Smuggling Activities (Amendment) BiII- ... 597-602
Motion to consider-
Shri Janardhan Poojary 597
Shri Girdhari Lal Was 599 LOK SABHA DEBATES
1 2 LOK SABHA MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ramoowalia.
Thursday, August 6, 1987/Sravana 15, ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 1909 (SiJka) [Translation] The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock. Loans to Unemployed Youths
~ [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] *141. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOWALIA: [English] - DR. CHINTA MOHAN: '. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY: to state: Today the House is very calm and quiet. (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Calm before has recently announced more liberal storms. policy regarding loans to unemployed youths; MR. SPEAKER: A lull before storrri.
HOMAGE TO VICTIMS OF FIRST (b) if so, the details in this regard; ATOMIC BOMB DROPPED ON HIROSHIMA (c) the time by which this scheme is likely to be implemented; and MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, this day, 42 years ago, the first atomic bomb was (d) whether remote rural areas will be dropped on the Japanese city of given preference in the matter of Hiroshima killing thousands of people and implementing this scheme? maiming or disabling for life a very large numDer of people. The years that have [English] gone by have witnessed development of nuclear weapons thousands of times more THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE powerful than the atomic bomb that fell on MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Hiroshima. We reiterate the demand of all JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (d). The human kind for immediate stoppage of the Reserve Bank of India has recently nuclear race and for dismantling the etcist- announced some more concessions with ing nuclear stockpiles. regard to loans given by banks under the scheme for providing Self-Employment to Educated Unemployed Youth (SEEUY). The House may now stand in silence for The loans of more than Rs. 25.000/- but not a shortwhile in the memory of the victims more than Rs. 35,000/- WOUld also now of the atomic holocaust. ca,ry a lower rate of interest as applicable to loans for As. 25,000/- and less. Further The Members then stood in silence for 8 no margin or collateral security would be shortwhile. required for these loans. 3 Oral Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Oral Answers 4
It is an ongoing scheme to be continued the report has come that the complaints till the end of the Seventh Plan period and are false and baseless. The complainants sanctions/disbursements are being made themselves are givi!"Q the statement: every year. The scheme covers the entire "Without knowing it, we have lodged the country, including rural areas, except complaint." In such cases, I request the cities and towns having population ·hon. Members: whenever there are such exceeding 10 lakhs as per 1981 census. cases, if they can kindly take this much interest there also and at the grass-:root SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOWA- level, pursue the matter and also give LIA: Sir, according to the statement, some evidence. action will be taken. steps have been taken regarding provision of loans for aeIf-employment of unedu- In the month of January, we have taken caQMJ unemployed youth. According to a actiOI'), not particularly in this case, but we Report. in a ~ting with the Prime Mini. have taken action against 49 Bank officers, ter by the Governor of RBI, it was decided and their Houses were also raided. This that loan limit will be raised from As. type of an action is a continuous one, and 25,000 to Rs. 30,000 at a lower rate of inter- we will not spare any person. Whenever est, i.e. upto 10 per cent. Sir, it is 8 very complaints are received, without any good step. But the point is, whether the reservation we are ordering enquiries: and Minister is aware that there are large if the han. Members Le. some of the number of complaints received from the Members like Mr. Ramoowalia who hap- unempJoyed youth that if they go to the pen to come to me, pursue the matter like banks to collect the money or to have the this, we wilt be in a position to give a better recommendations of the Managers, the performance. We will also take further Mangers are openly demanding a share action. from the loan amount. i.e. in the range of 5 per cent to 10 per cent. This share reaches SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOWA- upto top executives in case of certain LIA: Due to failure of the monsoon and banks. So. whenever the top executives other reasons, and the shortfall in the are approached, they give the general generation of electriCity etc., there has impression that we are not happy to be been a sudden increase in the number of under the control of the Government. unemployed youth. Side by side, the Many complaints have been made to the unemploy'ed youth has to seek guidance. Minister of State for Finance and he had Proper guidance is not given to th'e also assured me in his two letters that "I am unemployed youth. viz. 'on wherefrom he taking the matter with that bank." But every should get money, and what type of a time, no action has been taken. My point is profession he should start. ts your that to reduce the harassment of unem- Government making any arrangement to ployed youth at the hands of the Managers provide 'guidelines or guidance to the who demand money, what steps is your unerTJployed youth in tracing out certain Government taking; how many cases have works, professions etc. in this manner? come to your notice, and what type of action has been taken so far against guilty persons? SHAI JANARDHANA POOJARY: There are the District Industries Centes and also the Task Forc;;e which have been given the SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: We work of identifying the beneficiaries. It is have sanctioned loans to the extent of As. true that sufficient publicity is not there... 455 crores, and we have received some When this was brought to the notice of the complaints. We have ordered enquiries. At Govenlment, the literatures have been some places. in some parts of the country printed. But I do not say that the literature, where we had ordered enquiries, in some by itself, will be. sufficient. For that cases we have taken action. In some cases, purpose, I am moving from pface to place- 5 Oral Answers SAAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Oran Answers 6
per week I am addressing not less than 11h boost up the image of the GOvernment and to 2 lakh people: and I am telling people unemployed people will also get loan. Is the details of this ,programme~ how to there any proposal before the Government· identify the loan areas, how to get the loan to provide one job to at least one member and also whether surety is required-all of a family before going for next general these things are explained to the people election or the mid-term poll? throughout the country. in the public credit camps. MR. SPEAKER: You have started liking DA. CHINTA MOHAN: There are so every person. many unemployed youths in the country. The hungry young - men are likely to SHRf JANARDHANA POOJARY: As far become angry young men of this nation. as"identification of the beneficiaries is con- The needy are not getting the assistance; cerned, it is done through the State only the greedy get the benefits of the . Government. particularty when the task scheme for the unemployed. force is there. which is headed by .a Gen- eral Manager of a Distr:id Industry Centre. The Prime Minister recently announced The Credit Managers .are also involved in a self-employment programme. We are that.. committee. If they (jischarge their happy about it. But in this programme, functions effectively then there will not be there are so many bottlenecks. Actually, any difficulty in' the field. If the State the finance or. the amount given to the Governments also formulate good plans unemployed people is very" little. It is and also proper planning is done at the under-financed, and there are lots of delay State level for the implementation of these really, in the disbursement of the loans. programmes, then also this implementa- And also improper planning and improper tion could be done very effectively. So far poliCing of this loan is taking place. Also, I as the commitments of the Chairmen are would like to mention in this House that concerned, I fully agree with the hon. due to appointment of some Chairmen of Member'" that today the nation requires these Nationalised Banks, who do not have people at the helm of affairs who are com- conviction to propagate these R_rogram- mitted to the programmes and who are mes to the people of the society, the poor committed to the welfare of the weaker people of the society are not getting the sections. I share the concern of the hone loan. The Chairmen only bother about the House and we will take into consideration South Block, Star Hotels and scotch all these point, at the time of appointment whisky: and these programmes are going of the Chief Executives. So far as identifi- on witttout being implem.mted properly. cation of the Bank Managers who are The Managers who are actually imple- effective at the fietd is concerned, it is my menting them at the grass-root level, they conviction also that the persons who are are not able to get proper instructions. effective at the field level. who are efficient There is a big lacuna between the Govern- and also who are doing their work without ment and the Chairmen and between the taking any bribe, such persons should be Chairmen and the Managers. I request the encouraged even at the cost of political Government to see that there should be . inteference. If such persons are there. I will . some incentive or some award should be definitely interfere and protect such given or some promotion should be given persons. to those Managers who are actually imple- . DR. CHINTA MOHAN: VVhat about giv- menting these programmes, who are actu- ,ng award or promotion to the Bank Man- ally disbursing loan to the proper people agers who are effective at the field level? and who are properly collecting loan from these self-employed people. I request the [Translation) G~vemment to come out with such type of a scheme so that these programmes will SHAI MADAN PANDEY: Mr. Speaker. 7 Oral Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Oral Answers 8
Sir, the scheme which has been formula- [English] ted by the Government to provide employment opportunities to the common Promotion PoIicy.of Syndicate Bank people is praiseworthy. However, some shortco~ings are evident in it at the stage *142. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: of implementation. Is t ... e hon. Minister DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: aware of- it? For example. the selection ~f the beneficiaries is done by a separate Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased body. The list thus prepared is then sent to (0 state: the banks from where the beneficiaries are to get loans. However. when they go the (a) the date since when the existing Banks, they are asked to come later as the policy for promotions from JM sCale-1 to II money is not available with them at that came into force fn Syndicate Bankj. and time. This is how they plan to extract money from the poor people. I want to (b) the reasons for not making reserva- know from the hon. Minister whether any tions for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled other scheme has been formulated to Tribes officers in such promotions? remove this shortcoming and to prevent exploitation of our youth, and if so. the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE details thereof and whether wide publicity MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- will be given to it so that this practice of DHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). A taking bribe from our youth is stopped? Statement is given below.
STATEMENT THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND COMMERCE (SHRI NARAYAN DATT (a) The bank has informed that the existing TIWARI): The suggestion given by the promotion policy came into effect from hon. Member is certainly worth consider- 20.4.1983. ing. When I was in the Ministry of Industries. such complaints were received (b) As per the guidelines contained in the and it was felt that evaluation should be BrOchure on Reservations for Scheduled made. The difficulties which arise while Castes and Scheduled Tribes in Services selecting the beneficiaries and distribu- (Sixth Edition)., reservations do not apply to ting funds. are to be kept tn view while promotions within officers cadre Group A if improving .the system. I expect the hon. they are based on selection. Syndicate Bank has reported that it follows the selection Members to give suggestions on the basis method in promotions within' its officers of their experience as to how the process cadres and therefore is not applying reserva- can be made less complicated and easy. tions for Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes. The bank is. however. providing f.or concessions to the Scheduled Castes & Sche- duled Tribes in such promotions in terms of [English] Para 12.2 (a) of the Brochure. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Our Minister [Translation] can write Hindi Ibrat. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAtRWA: Mr. [Translation] Speaker, Sir. I want to know from the hon. Minister the date on w~ich orders for MR. SPEAKER: He can write many more making _reservations for Scheduled Castes things. . and Scheduled Tribes were issued? You have stated in your reply that in the THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Syndicate Bank the policy came into force (S. BUTA SINGH): Jaipalji, if you write, in 1983 but whether this is consistent with you wiJI also get loan. the Government's orders? 9 Oral Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10
[English.) reservation quota is not being filled and promotions are being avoided. Has the SHAI JANAADHANA POOJAAY: Sir, Government issued any directive that the the existing promotion policy of the members of. the Scheduled Castes and Syndicate Bank came into effect from 20- Schedu1ed Tribes be promoted with effect 4-1983 and clarifications were issued by from the fixed date? the Banking Division about reservations for Scheciuled Castes and Tribes. They were issued on 28th November. 1986. We have already issued the instructions to the [English] Syndicate Bank that they should follow the guidelines issued by the Banking Division SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: The and also the instructions contained in the policy of the Government is very clear. We Brochure about reservations. did try to implement the programme of the reservation policy. The Scheduled Castes [Translation] and Scheduled Tribes Association tJave gone to the Supreme Court raising so SHAI BANWARI LAL BAIAWA: My many issues and they have raiSed the basic question has not been answered. I had issue about the policy of the reservations asked a direct question as to from which also. So, it is not only the implementation date orders for making reservations for part. So far as the implementation part is promotion of employees belonging to the concerned the Government is keen and I Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes can assure the House that we are came into effect? Has the Syndicate Bank implementing it and no hurdle will be enforced it from that date or not and if not. there. But unfortunately, they have raised the reasons therefor? so many other issues. which are to be decided by the Supreme Court. So far as [English] the implementation part is concerned, if they withdraw, there may not be any diffi- SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: The culty. For the benefit of the hone Member, hon. Member is aware of the fact that some on 28th November 1986 we issued instruc- years back instructions have been issued tions to the Syndicate Bank to implement by the Personnel Department and that this the policy. But the Scheduled Castes and policy has been implemented. I have given Scheduled Tribes immediately rushed to the date also. Now. this Scheduled Castes the Supreme Court. Otherwise, the policy and Scheduled Tribes Association did not would have been implemented as per the agree with the policy adopted by the guidelines issued by the Personnel Syndicate Bank. They went to the Department. Supreme Court and the matter is pending in the Supreme Court. It is sub judice. [Trans/ation]
[Trans/ation] SHRI CHARANJIT SINGH ATHWAL: The hone Minister has stated in his reply to SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: The this question that the Syndicate Bank has hone Minister has stated that these people gt'"anted certain concessions to the Sche- have gone to the Supreme Court. The duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in the members of the Scheduled Castes and matter of promotions. In this connection. I Scheduled Tribes are very we~k. The want to know from the hone Minister Government has formulated the Reserva- through you the concessions provided by tio" Policy keeping in view their weakness the Bank and the number of persons . but if in every bank they have to go to category-wise who were benefited there- court. will they be able to afford it? The by? 11 Oral Answflrs AUGUST 6, 1987 Oral Answers 12
[English) (c) if so, the details thereof?
SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the question relates to Syndicate Bank. If MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- the hon. Member gives some other notice TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF regarding this question, I will answer. PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. [Translation] (b) It has been suggested to the SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Mr. Spea- concerned Central Ministries to introduce ker, Sir, I t.hink it is the Government'S policy the scheme of Concurrent Evaluation of to protect the Scheduled Castes, and the implementation of various items under Scheduled Tribes and in this connection, the 2O-Point Programme. The Department the Depa~pment of Personnel has been of Rural Development have already intro- issuing necessary directives from time to duced this scheme in respect of Integrated time. However, in spite of all this. the Rural Development Programme and Rural Syndicate Bank is not following these Water Supply. directives. What are the reasons thereof? Again, when the reservation policy is being (c) A Monitoring Manual for monitoring followed in other sectors of the Govern- the 2O-Point Programme from village/ ment of India and in all the banks, then why block to the State level has been pr9pared cannot the same be followed by the for guidance of State Gov~rnments and Syndicate Bank as well? If the directives of Union Territory Administrations. the Government are nat followed, how will the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes make progress? What were the SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Sir, in view of reasons behind not following the direct~ the fact that the 2O-Point Programme has .ves.,I ? been introduced rather a decade ago and also in view of the fact that an unfortunate [English) notion has been created all over the country that the implementation of the 20- SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir. Point Programme has falten into unsafe according to Syndicate Bank. they were hands, which have no conviction and no following the reservation policy which was sense of commitment to the programme, I introduced on 1.6. 1978. But it has been would like to appreciate the awareness- challE!nged in the Supreme Court. I am not although little belated on the part of the in a position to go into any technicalities. Government- the Government requires closer and more intensive monitoring of Intensive Monitoring System for 2O-Point the implementation. Now, Part (b) of the Programme answer talks of a scheme of Concurrent Evaluation of the implementation. I would *144.SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: wm the like to know certain broad details of this Minister of PROGRAMME IMPLEMEN- scheme, which seeKS to make Concurrent TATION be pleased to state: Evaluation of the Programme. Atso, the answer mentions that this has already (a) whether Union Government propose been introduced in the Rural Development to have a more intensive monitoring Ministry of the IRDP Programme. Whe- system at the S~ate and lower levels to ther any tangible resul~ have been ensure that targets under 2O-Point Pro- achiev9p by the introduction of this grammes are fully achieved; Scheme in this Ministry and why other Ministries have been left out of this. I would (b) whether' 'a : system of physical like to know from the hon. Minister inspection would also be evolved; and whether any results on which action can 13 Oral Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl Oral Answers 14
be taken has been discovered by the Government whether the concurrent Government of the day. evaluation schemes and the monitoring manual will operate in combination to stop SHRI SUKH RAM: There were com- the paper jugglery on . the 2O-Point plaints and the Members of this' hon. Programme. It has come to the notice of House have also been agitating that the the Government as well as to the p~p.Je implementation of the 20- Point Pro- concerned that so far the achievement in gramme is not upto the mark. That is the 2O-Point Programme has been only on reason why .under the direction of the paper, because in the State Govemn'l8nts. Prime' Minister a concurrent evaluation particularty in the non-congress' ruled programme was introduced in the month States and also in certain Con~ress ruled of September, 1985. This involveS about 29 States. the bureaucracy has manipulated it independent research institutions.' Eminent in such a way that they have achieved high Scientist are also involved in the evaluation percentage of targets. But those targets of this programme. If you want to know are on paper only. The failure of the about the results, there have been findings monitoring machinery has certainly come of the conc\.arrent evaluation group. I may into the picture. Therefore, I would like to tell you that this concurrent evaluation know what is the progress of the programme is applicable in case of IRDP preparation of this monitoring manual, and water supply. The Prog"'ramme Imple- when will it be intrOdtJced at all the mentation Ministry has already addressed necessary levels and when wit! it stop this all the nodal Ministries that they should paper jugglery on the implementation of undertake thiS concurrent evaluation pro- the ~.Point .Programme? gramme. Some Ministries have already agreed to it apart from the Rural Ministry SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir, the delay in like the Health Ministry, Welfare Ministry printing of the monitoring manual was on and some other Ministries. We are account of the fact that the revised 20- pursuing this with other Ministries also. As Point Programme was introduced with far as the evaluation of the IRDP is effect from April of this financial Year, an~ concerned, they have submitted a ,report now it will be issued to all the con~ned in for one year expiring in September, 1986. due course of time. This is about 58 per cent of the assisted families belong to the destitute group i.e. As far as the monitoring is concerned, from Re. 1/- to Rs. 2265 and 41 per cent there have been monitqring committees at belong to the very very poor group. There the State level, presided over by the Chief is a long list with me. If the hon. Member Minister or the Chief Secretary, and there insists, I may read out the whole list. have been monitoring committees at the Otherwise, I will send him a copy of the list. district and the block level also. Since the ~Point Programme is vast and involves a MR. SPEAKER: Lay it on the Table ~f the number of agencies and the feed back has House. to be received from the grassroot level. it has to be coordinated at the district and the SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: In part .(c) it is State level and then those poliCies of mentioned that the monitoring manual is information have to be supplied to the under preparation. I wonder whether this Programme Implementation Ministry and has been recently conceived or if it has the other nodal Ministries and they are been recently conceived. why so much compiled over there. As I told earlier. in time has been taken in the preparation of view of certain complaints, this concurrent the monitoring manual in this respect? I evaluation system has been introduced appreCiate the frank admission of the and this is a continuous process. Whatever Government that the implementation of <;tefects come to the notice of the the 2O-Point Programme has been 'miser- Government. necessary poliC;y decision able. I would like to know from the will be taken accordingly. 15 Oral Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Oral Answers 16
KUMAR. MAMATA BANERJEE: Mr. plaints but those complaints-as I had Speaker, Sir, our Government is giving once told the Prime Minister-if I write to money for the 2O-Point Programme but it is the Chief Secretary and the Collector. from a matter of pity that my h':.lngry State , the Collector it would go to the same Government are digesting all the funds officer against whom I have complained. given by the Central Government. We are So. I want to know from the Minister discussing matters like Bofors and Fairfax whether any machinery is being created to in this House but do }OU know that crores verify the actual creation targets. Though and crores of rupees have been misused the actual financial targets are fulfilted and and defalcated by the direct involvement of put before the Prime Minister but the the State Government? Specially it has actual creation target is never fulfilled. TIie happened in Alipore Nazir-Khana and Committee expects the Executive Engi- other treasuries in West Bengal. I do not neer to come before it but he never comes. know whether the Government is aware of We go from Delhi. He does not come and it or not. • would like to know from the hone no action is taken. How do you propose to Minister_what steps he is going to take to solve this problem? Every Metnber of Parli- probe this matter and whether he is going ament is having this problem. Can you say to set up a High-Power Committee to how you will implement it? inquire into the matter, and secondly, why the Central Government is not monitoring this scheme directly. I want to know SHRI SUKH RAM: I share the concern of whether it is a Party's ~Point Programme the hone Member. That is the reason why or it is a Govemment's 2O-Point Program- the meeting of the Chief Ministers was me. I want to know it from the hone convened in 1985 and the Prime Minister Minister... (Interruptions). addressed all the Chief Ministers and they discussed that there should be regular SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir. I did not receive elections for the Panchayats and people and complaint from the official sources representatives should be associated at all regarding misuse of funds by the West levels right from the district level up to the Bengal Government. But since the hone State level. Some of the States and the Member has made a complaint about the Planning Commission have been pursuing misuse of funds in West Bengal. I will this.. Some States have already set up definitely look into the matter. If necessary...... Committees. There are State level commit- a High-Power COmmittee will be set up tees, District level committees as ~he hone because the Centre contributes 37 per Member has just now ~tated ahd the cent of the resources for this Programme... Members of Parliament and the M.LAs are (Intorruptions). associated in that and by and large the Minister of the District presides over this meeting. I have taken note of this fact that SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Sir, the they do not devote sufficient time for the effective committee for the implementa- meeting. We will write to the State tion of the Programme is at the district level Government As you know these program- where MPs.IMLAs. are the members. Is it mes are being implemented by the State In the knowledge of the Minister that the GOvernments. meeting dates of this committee are very freq~ently changed? Minister comes by SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: The pi.. at 9.aclock. meeting starts at ten and Minister is de-jure and the Collector is de- at one O'clock, it adjourns for lunch. 11le facto. point is would you in the monitoring ask these committees to sit for full one day and SHRI SUKH RAM: Whenever these on the next day they must go in the fiefd to programmes are implemented by the State verify the actual assets that are created as a Government. we will definitely again write of implementation. We have com- to the State Government that they should result It 17 Oral Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909"(~AKA) Ora/ Answers 18 devote more ti~ and whatever objectives [Transl.tion] have been fixed, they ha_ to be achieved. That Is why there has been monitoring at SHRI SUKH RAM: What the h~n. all levels and the Programmes Implemen- Member has stated about Jaunpur, J will tation Ministry is now vigorously monitor- definitely collect information about it and if ing all these .programmes. \Nherever any I get an opPQrtunity to go there, I will defect or· drawback is noticed that is certainly avail of that opportunity. I want to brought to the notice of the State inform the han. Member. that I toured the Government and they are asked to hill areas of Uttar Pradesh sometime back improve their performance. and I talked to the field level officers and the district level officers there to find out as SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: We ar. to hO'N the work is going on in those areas. grateful for sharing the concern. SCIST ....,..,. below Poverty line In M.P [Trans/ation] *145. SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV: Will " SHRI SHRfPATI MISHRA: Mr. Speaker, the Minister of WELFARE be pieased to Sir. Uttar Pradesh has stood first in the state: implementation of the 2O-Point Program- (8) whether any survey has been me in the country and Jaunpur district has conducted in Madhya Pradesh to ascertain topped the list in Uttar Pradesh. I want to the number of Scheduled Castes/Sche- know from the hon. Minister whether he duled Tribes living below the poverty line; win himself tour Jaunpur which has stood and first in India and get a first hand report of the implementation of the various· pro- (b) if so, the measures being taken by grammes ancl express his satisfaction over Government to uplift these poor people it and whether he will inform the House and the amount of money proposed to be about the state of affairs in that district spent on these measures in the current which has topped in the country? financial year? .
SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Mr. [Eng/ish] Speaker, Sir, it is very necessary to conduct a debate on this issue in this THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE House. MINISTRY OF WELFARE (DR. RAJEN- ORA KUMARI BAJPAI): (a) No, Sir. [English] (b) According to the information furnis- hed by Madhya Pradesh Government an On the modality and implementation of amount of Rs. 9658.27 lakhs is proposed to the Twenty-Point Programme. there should be spent in the current year 1987-88 for be a debate. poverty alleviation programmes under which 30 to 50 percent of beneficiaries win be from the SC/ST COMmunities. The total [Trans/ation] proposed expenditure under Special Component Plan for Scheduled Castes MR. SPEAKER:: You give it in writing and Tribal Sub Plan for Scheduled Tribes and it will be done. It is for you to save time including Special Central Assistance will for ·it. be As. 438 crores in M.P. in the current finanCial year which will also benefit the [English] SC/STs below the poverty tine. However. no separate figures for expenditu~ on I have got no problem. SC/ST below poverty line "are available. 19 Oral Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Oral Answers 20
[Translation] In tegard to what the hone Member has stated about the implementation and non- SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV: Mr. implementation of programmes in his Speaker, Sir, the hone Minister has stated constituency. if he gives it in writing, I will that substantial amounts have been ear- find out the fa~s as block-wise infonna- marked for the welfare schemes and in this tion is not available with me at present. connection, I want to know from the hone Minister as to why Harijans in Madhya SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Is the Pradesh, particularly in the district of Mor- Welfare Department of the Central Govem- ena, have practically gained nothing even ment aware that the amount sanctioned by after 40 years of independence and there your Department as stipend .and loan to has been no progress there at all? the students studying in schools and colleges in Bihar is not distributed properly and the officials responsible for its RAJENDRA KUMARI BAJPAI: Mr. DR. distribution indulge in corrupt practiCes Speaker, Sir, I am not prepared to accept and the funds do not reach the students the contention that Harijans have made no even though large amounts are sanctioned progress. They have made progress but for this purpose? Have such complaints more needs to be done in this area and that been ever received by the hone Minister, is why we have different programmes. In and if so, what action has been taken in this all our programmes, whether it is the regard? Harijan component plan in which the Centre grants special assistance or the Again, there are hostels .in colleges. In POV6i1y alleviation programmes, 30 per many places where hostels are not there, cent of the funds are earmarked for the the Department of Welfare grants certain welfare ot the Scheduled castes and amounts as a loan or rent to the officials of Scheduled Tribes. the concerned schools and colleges but the students are deprived of thi~ benefit. So far as the percentage of illiteracy and Has any such complaint been received by promotion of education is concerned, it the hone Minister? varies from place to place.
DR.· RAJENDAA KUMARI BAJPAI: Mr. SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the. question was about Speaker, Sir, the three development blocks Madhya Pradesh. Now if the hone Member namely, Karhal. Vijaypur and Paharganj in wants to ask a question about Bihar, he my constituency of Morena are all tribal should give a separate notice for it. areas. In this connection, I want to know whether a Central study team will be sent SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: I have there for conducting a survey of those written to the hone Minister 2 or 3 times but areas? If I am proved wrong. then I will no action has been taken so far. become guilty in your eyes. [English 1
DR. RAJENDRA KUMARi BAJPAI: Mr. Loans to Fishing Industry Speaker, Sir, so far as the programmes for the Scheduled Tribes are concerned. "'146. SHAI D.P. JADEJA: Will the wherever the tribal population is dominant, Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: the State Governments form tribal blocks (a) the steps taken to give financial and formulate programmes for their assistance to the fishing industry; welfare. Where the Adivasi population is scattered, there are separate programmes (b) whether Shipping Credit and Invest- for them. ment Company of India ;s prepared to re- 21 Oral Answers .SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKAl Oral Answers 22 finance fishing companies which are in finance to shipping companies and not to trouble; and the fishing companies. Even the fishing companies whom they had assisted are (c) if not, the reasons for· different the large scale companies, big companies treatment between large shipping com- which had their headquarters more in panies and small fishing units? Delhi than in coastal region. The smaller fishing companies have been neglected at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE that time. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- HANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). A Statement is given below. Now, I am told that the SDFC has been wound up and those who are interested in STATEMENT the fishing industry have to go now to the Finance Ministry, which has the SCICI (a) Acquisition of deep sea fishing which has been formed. tr~wlers was hitherto being finan- ced through the Shipping Develop- May. I know from the Government when ment Fund Committee (SDFC) the smaller fishing companies need which has since been wound up assistance, would the Government diret:t on 3rd April, 1987. Past commitments the SCICI to take applications from those of the SDFC are being honoured by fishing companies which are finding it the Central Government in accord- difficult to finance their companies, oper- ance with the provisions of the Shipping Development Fund COrA- ate their companies, so that they would be mittee (Abolition) Act, 1986. New given more assistance at allliberai interest applications for finanCing of fishing rate? trawlers are being entertained by the Shipping Credit and Investment SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: The Company of India Ltd. (SClel). Shipping Credit and investment Company which has come into being w.e.f. 8th of India Ltd. (SCICI)" has come into December, 1986; existence from 8-12-1986. Already, the (b) Viable rehabilitation proposals in SCICI has received 16 proposals and out respect of defaulting fishing com- of these, 13 trawlers have been acquired. It panies for suitable assistance/ is the policy of the Government to finance reliefs could be considered on mer- even for small fishing trawler also. its of each case; and Whenever there ar~ proposals, definitely every case will be examined and proces- sed on merit and finance will flow, from the (c) Does not arise. SCICI, i.e. Shipping Credit and Investment Company of India Ltd. SHRI D.P. JADEJA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a known fact that in spite of the rich SHRI D.P. JADEJA: I am glad to hear fishing resources on our coasts, we have that this company has started functioning not fully exploited, even not a fraction of with effect from 8th December, 1986. May ~ them. The Ministry of Agriculture have know from the Minister one thing, i.e. out been giving a lot of promise~ regarding of the fishing companies that you have assistance to fishing industry but a stum- mentioned how many are new fishing bling block has always been the Finance companies and how many are spill over' that the fishing companies have not been from the SDFC? I would also like to know able to get. Uptill now, they have to go to when was the first application of a new the Ministry of Transport and it was SDFC fishing company received by this new which was giving finance. It was proved SCICI and how many such applications that the SOFC was only interested in giving are pending now? 23 Oral Answers AUGUST 6', 1987 Oral Answers' 24
SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: These' (b) if so, whether the Scheme h8$ been are the new proposals, the propo- implemented and if so, the number of sais about which I have said earlier. Out of beneficiaries; and these, 7 proposals for acquisition of 13 trawlers have so far been sanctioned by (c) the details about the amount SCICI new proposals. In case of 9 other coflected as premium and the amount proposals wherein aU papers are complete, disbursed as claims as on 31st March: they are being processed at present. There 1987? also it y..'iII be exaFlJined and finance will be given. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- PROF. P.J. KURIEN: I would like to DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). A State- know whether the Ministry is aware that ment is given below. there is a complaint that this newly formed . company, SCICI is very liberal towards STATEMENT large shipping companies, large compan- ies which have accumulated loss and (a) and (b). The Personal Accident arrears of crores of rupees. Whereas they Insurance Social Security Scheme for are very strict and miser1y towards the poor families was introduced in the fishing companies. I would like to know country, in the first phase, in 78 districts whether you would give a direction to with effect from 15.8.1985. The Scheme SCICI to give fishing industry also equal has been extended, in stages, to 136 more treatment, not only for new fishing districts raising the tota! number of cornpanies but also for rehabUitation of the districts covered thereunder so far, to 214. older ones. The number of beneficiaries covered SHRr JANARDHANA POOJARY: The under the Scheme, as on 31.3.1987, is policy of the Govern ment is to meet the estimated to be around 97.2 million. requirements of the fishing industry whether it is big corrlpany or small (c) No amount is collected as premi'Jm company. But the preference will have to from the beneficiaries. Government of be given to tne small people, particularly India bears the entire cost of premium. The for smaU fishing vessels. Their require- amount disbursed 8S cla:ms as on 31st ments will be fully met and each case will March, 1987 is As. 64.74 .akhs. be examined on merit. SHAI V. SOBHANADAEESWARA RAO: PROF. P.J. KURIEN: They are giving Many a time in the villages toddy-tappers preference to large shipping companies to may be falling from palmyra trees and the finance. agricultural labourers as well as the marginal farmers who go to the fields die of SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: If snake bites and sometimes they will be there is any instance, you can bring to our losing their lives due to flash floods and notice and action wit: be taken. sometimes due to electrical shocks near the agricultural pumpsets and, sometimes Accident Insurance Scheme they will be dying due to the co~lapse of the earth while digging the wens or irrigation *148. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA canals. RAO: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether all these types of (a) whether Union Government intro- accidents which occur in the rural areas duced a Scheme for accident insurance for resulting in the death of poor people are the poor about two years ago; covered under the scheme. 25 Oral Answers SRAVANA "15, 1909 (SAKAl Oral Answers 26
I would .'50 like to know how many dis- speaks of the poor way in which the "triets are covered under the scheme and scheme is functioning In piaces where it is which are the districts in Andhra Pradesh being implemented. covered under the scheme as on 31-3- 1987. Since th8 amount that is disbursed is only Rs. 64 lakhs over a period of one year SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY:Th~ and 9 months. I feel there should not be scheme covers all the accidents including any difficulty for the Govemment to extend suicide and wherever the accident occurs I the scheme to the whole of the country. I and it is covered under Motor Vehicles or would like to know specifically from the under any specific Acts where the hon. ~Ainister by what date the scheme will compensation could be secured, then the be ,mplemented and extended to the other scheme will not cover such accidents. districts which are not yet covered as wen as why the Government has not taken Coming to the irnplernentation part of it, I can tell the hon. Member that so far the adequate steps to see that this scheme is number of claims that have been intimated implemented. If the scheme is taken to the notice of the poOr people of this country, is 3,864 throughout the country and the number of claims paid is 2,158 and I appeal several poor people will get benefited by to the hon. Members for the benefit of the this. So, it appears that wide publicity is not House that if they give wide publicity to the given either from the Union Government scheme in their respective states and side or from the State Govt. side. Also, 'I about the benefits that accrue to the poor would like to know as to what steps the " and if the District Collectors are also made Government has proposed to take beca- to work very effectively, this programme use it is the Government of India which is could be implemented in a better way. paying the premium. I think the Govern- "lent of India should take adequate steps So far as Andhra Pradesh is concerned, to propagate this scheme so tt1at the the districts covered are Anantapur," benefit will accrue to the people, in case Chittoor, East Godavari, Guntur, Karim- they make accident insurance. Further, I nagar, Mahaboobnagar, Visakhapatnam, would like to know tt.. reason for the very Cuddapah. Kurnool. NaJgonda, Prakasam, long delay that has taken place in the Warrangal, YVest Godavari, Srikakulam disposal of the pending cases. and, recently we have covered some more districts also and I can bring to the notice SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: So far of the hon. Member for his benefit that the as the first part of the question is number of claims intimated in the entire concerned. in the year 1987-88, we are Andhra Pradesh is only 668, claims paid going to cover 125 districts more. So far as ~~2. claims repudiated 14 and cla,ms the implementation part of the programme " outstanding 222. is concerned, more publicity is required. We have also already issued instructions More awareness is aiso to be brought into to take immediate action but if the hon. the minds of the weaker sections. For that, Members also bring to the notice of the in some distriCts, Collectors are very Collectors in their respective States the effective and in Some districts they have benefits that accrue to the people. it will be gone to the extent of moVing from place to helpful to the Government and we seek the place even to the interior places and cooperation and coordination of the State identified those poor people who lost their Governments in this respect. Houses, bread-winners and brought to the notice of the Department and the bene- SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: ficiaries get the benefits. Here, I request The very fact that the amount disbufsect as the hon. Members, as I said earlier, if all on 31-3-87 since the inception of the join together. if we pring it to the" notice of scheme is only As. 64 lakhs while the the weaker sections particularly whenever people covered are only 10 crores, itself we are moving into the interior places. then 27 Oral Answers AUGUST 6 1987 Oral Answers 28 if we bring it to the notice .of ~e beneficiaries, defioitely it could be imple- mented in a better way. *149.· SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: Regarding publicity, I have already SHRI S.M. GURADDI: instructed our Depanment to give publi- Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased city in the media, Doordarshan, Akasha- to state: vani and in all the media that is available with the Central Government. We assure (a) whether the Planning Commission the hone Members that that will be more has suggested that unless certain disquiet- effective. The State Governments should ing trends which have emerged against the also be more effective in the implementa- backdrop of implementation of the 1986- tion of this programme. 87 Annual Plan are controlled, the growth process may slacken. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND MINISTER OF COMMERCE (SHRI NAR- (b) if so, whether Government have AYAN DATT TIWARI): I supplement May accepted this suggestion; and my distinguished colleague by mentioning that one of the first tasks that I allotted to (c) the efforts being made in this regard? myseH after taking over as Finance Minister was to write to all the Chief Ministers, requestfng them to tighten up THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the administrative arrangements and give MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- publicity to this scheme at the district and TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF block levels. I hope that now we shall have PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION 8 speedier resutt . I will personally take a (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. As a result meeting of all the officers concerned so of the 1987-88 Annual Plan exercise, a that we can streamline the administration review of the progress of the implementa- of this scheme. We give utmost import- tion of the 19~B7 Annual Plan was under- ance to this scheme. taken. The review. while taking note ~f better performance, also brought out cer- tain·disquieting trends in relation to finan- SHRI K.S. RAO: Mr. Speaker, Sir, as the cial resources, which required attention of hone Minister himself has agreed that it is the Government. because of the lack of publicity the scheme was not known to many of our people in the entire country. I wish to know whether (b) and (c). The review was undertaker:- the hone Minister is prepared to take the in association with the Ministry of Finance assistance of the voluntary organisations, and other concerned Ministries. Hence, apart from the publicitY to be given, the Government was seized of the and a'so assure us that the Government emerging issues and the need for adopting would pay the amounts due to them suitable' corrective measures. While pre- without any loss of time, if any reputed senting the 1987-88 Budget, the Prime organisation takes up the matter on behalf Minister has already indicated the mea- of them. sures in this regard.
SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: It is a SHRI S.M. GURADDI: I would like to very good suggestion. We are going to know from the hone Minister as to what involve the social organisations also. We measures he has taken to ensure the will see that no delay is there in the successful implementation of this Annual disbursement of the amount. We will Plan expedite the disposal of each and every case. SHRI SUKH RAM: Some measures have 29 Written Answ81S SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 30 already been taken to improve the working had approved three loans to support of the Public Sector and to reduce the non- private enterprises in India; Plan expenditure both in the Centre and in the States. So, all these measures which (b) whether any agreement has been' have already been taken by the Govern- reached in this regard; ment wUI definitely improve the position. (c) if so, the details of the projects for which this loan will bf;t provided; and ;. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (d) to what extent this loan has been [English] utilised by the enterprises to whom it was granted? IFe Loan to Support PrIvate Enterprl••
*147. SHAI G.S. BASAVARAJU: THE ~1INISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN WARI: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI): (a) to (d). The details of the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased investments committed by the Inter- to state: national Finance Corporation, Washing- (a) whether the International Finance ton in India in Fiscal year 1987 (1-7-86 to Corporation (I FC). a World Bank affiliate. 30-6-87) are as follows:- 31 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 32
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*150. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Envlronmen... CIMnInce to Intgatlon SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Project PATIL: *151. SHRI C.D. GAMIT: Will the Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- to state: ESTS be pleased to state: (a) whether smUggling is still playing havoc on a very large scale with the (a) whether the Zankhari and Valan country's economy; medium irrigation ·project of Gujarat is pending his Ministry's clearance; (b) whether· any estimate has been attempted in this regard; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor;
(c) if so, whether any vigorous drive is (c) when the said proposal was received contemplated by Government to combat in the Ministry ; and this menace? (d) the likely date when the project will be cleared? . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. AND FORESTS (SHRI BHAJAN LAL) : (a) GADHVI): (a) to (c). Smuggling of No, Sir. . contraband goods into the country, no doubt, has an adverse impact on the (b) Does not arise. economy as a whole Smuggling being a clandestine ·activity, no reasonable esti- (c) and (d). The Zankhari project was mate is feasible. received for environmental clearance on 1st December, 1978. After receiving the Anti-smuggling drive in general has required information and clarifications in been intensified throughout the country June. 1982, it was accorded approval on 7th with particular emphasis in the highly July, 1982. vulnerable areas of our land borders and coastal regions. The preventive and The Valan irrigation scheme was recei- intelligence machinerY of the Customs ved for environmental clearance on 11th department remains vigilant against smug- October, 1983 and rejected on 14th May, gling activities. The trends in smuggling 1987 due to non furnishing of requisite and seizures made are closely monitored environmental details despite repeated for taking appropriate remedial measures requests. in close co-ordination with the concerned Central and State Government authorities. Both the projects have been closed by the Ministry so far as clearance for diversion of forest land is concerned as essential information for such clearance Stringent action is taken departmentally was not furnished to the Ministry. as well as through prosecutions in a Court of Law against those involved in smugg- [English] ling activities. Apart from confiscation of contraband goods and impoSition of Central AssIstance to Matulrashtra for penalties, preventive detention under Wild Ute Protection COFEPOSA is also resorted in suitable cases. *152. SHRI D.B. PATIL: Will the Minister 35 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Wrillen Answers 36
of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be Maharashtra for the purpose; and pleased to state: (c) whether the funds have been utilised .(a) the central assistance sought for by in full and if not, the reasons therefor? Government of Maharashtra from Govern- ment for wild life protection during 1985- THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT 86, 1986-87 and 1987-88; AND FORESTS (SHAI BHAJAN LAL): (a) to (c). A Statement giving the details is (b) funds allotted to Government of given below. 37 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 38
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*153. SHRI VAKKOM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . PURUSHOTHAMAN: MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- DHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c). The Industrial Finance Corporation of India, CHANDRAN: has reported that the total financial Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased assistance sanctioned by it during 1986-87 to state: (July-June) was Rs. 853.02 crores in respect of 556 industrial projects. The (a) the sanctions and disbursements of financi~ assistance disbursed by it during financial assistance to various industries the 'year 1986-87 (July-June) was Rs. by the Industrial Finance Corporation of 508.97 crores. Out of 556 projects for India (IFCI) in 1986-87; which assistance was sanctioned, 296 projects are located/to be located in (b) the number of industrial projects notified backward areas. A Statement which received financial assistance during showing the State-wise ~istribution of the the year; and number of projects in notified backward areas for which assistance was sanctioned (c) out of them, how many projects are in 1986-87 is given below. STATEMeNT
State/Union Territory Number of Projects
1 2
Andhra Pradesh 38
Assam 9
Bihar 2
Goa 3
Gujarat 29
Haryana 9
Himachal Pradesh 9
Jammu & Kashmir 3
Karnataka 20
Kerala 8
Madhya Pradesh 23
Maharashtra 20
Meghalaya 1
Orissa 8 43 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers·· 44
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Punjab 14
Rajasthan 29
Tamil Nadu 18
Tripura 1
Uttar Pradesh 38
West Bengal 12
Dadra & Nagar Haveli 1
Pond'cherry 5
Total: 298
Leakage In Baroda Heavy Water Plant procedures have been upgraded to avoid such incidents. *154. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased StudIes on Drug Addiction to state: *155. SHRI H.B. PATIL: Will the Minister (a) whether a number of persons were of WELFARE be pleased to statEf: affected by the gas leakage at the Baroda Heavy Water Plant recently; (a) whether her Ministry and the University Grants Commission have insti- (b) if so, the details of the incident; tuted studies on incidents of drug addict- ion in the country; and (c) whether any inquiry was conducted by Union Government; and (b) if so, the details thereof?
(d) if so, the outcome thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF WELFAR.E (DR. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAJENDRA KUMARI BAJPAI): (a) and MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- (b). No comprehensive study has been LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE undertaken. However, a Multi-Centred DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- Study on Drug Abuse Amongst Students' MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- was commissioned by Ministry of Welfare NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARA- in four metropolitan cities and five other YANAN): (a) and (b). No person was cities. According to the preliminary report affected by the release of synthesis gas, received in regard to the study. the results which consists mainly of Hydrogen and show a decline in the prevalence rates Nitrogen, at Heavy Water Plant, Baroda on among the students in general. 16.5.87 The University Grants Commission has (c) and (d). Yes, Sir~ The enquiry has not conducted any study on the incidence revealed cause of release of gas and safety of drug addiction in the country. 45 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909'(SAKA) Written Answers 46
Planning Commission AdvIce Regarding NABARD refinance are quite liberal and Changes In MRTP Act the banks are eligible for 100% refinance Df the amount lent to farmers. The annual *156. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHA- rate of interest for loans to ultimate NTY: Will the Minister of PLANNING be borrowe" is 100/0 for small farmers and pleased to state: 12.5% for other farmers. The availability of finance on these terms is expected to help (a) .-whether the Planning Commission in keeping the cost of production low. This has advised GQvernment to bring changes coupled with large scale production of in the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade seedlings would ensure that they are Practices Act, 1969, and to relax the available to the consumers at a reasonable licensing policy to promote competition in price. However, in the agreement of loan, production and cost efficiency reducing there is no condition for the price at which the controls to the minimum; seedlings would be sold by the borrower farmer and it is open to the nursery grower (b) if so, the details thereof; and to sell the seedlings at a price he can get in . the open market. (c) the reaction of Govemment in this regard? Credit Camp in Slkkim THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- *158. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will the TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether Government had to aban- don a credit camp in Sikkim recently; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (b) if so, the reasons therefor and NABARD Loans Nursertes whether Government intend to reorganise .0 the camp in ·near future? *157. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANA~ (a) whether NABARD is to provide DHANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b). The State massive loans to private nurseries for Bank of India has reported that in view of a raising saplings etc. as reported in the call for Sikkim bandh given by the youth 'Times of India' of 12 June, 1987; and wing of the Sikki~ Sangram Parishad, the credit camps sctleduled to be held in (b) if so, the steps being taken to ensure Sikkim on 10th & 11th June, 1987 were that .sale price of such products is fair both postponed. It is fu rther reported that to producers and consumers and a another date for holding credit camp in suitable mechanism is built in the loans Sikkim has not yet been fixed. agreement for fixing fair prices?
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Translation] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- DHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). NABARD Insat-IB SatelHte has started a scheme, primarily with a view to meet the seedlings requirement for the *159. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI development of waste land, wherein SHAKTAWAT: Will the PRIME MINISTER refinance is provided to banks against the be pleased to state: loans extended by them to farmers for raising commercial nurseries. The terms of (a) -whether there is any proposal to 47 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 48
commission 12 more channels with the islands. In addition, dedicated business help of INSAT -lB; communication networks have been pro- vided for the Oil & Natural Gas Commi- (b) if so, the details thereof; ssion, the Indian Telephone Industries Limited and National Fertilizers Limited. (c) the' places where the headquarters of About 196 TV stations in the country the National Informatic Centre Network receive Satellite feed for local -rebroadcast communication system will be establis- of national programmes. Around 2000 TV hed; Direct Reception Sets and 2,000 Very High Frequency (VHF) Community TV sets (d) the progress made in the field of oil have also been installed. In addition, two exploration with the aid of this satellite; regional TV broadcasts are supported by and INSAT-IB. All the 97 stations of All India Radio are nationally networked via I NSAT- (e) the details of the latest achievements lB. The Very High Resolution Radiometer by INSAT-IB? (VHRR) on-board INSAT-IB, the satellite- linked meteorological data collection ser- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE vice and disaster warning system have MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- . helped greatly in weather monitoring and LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE forecasting. DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT, ATOMIC 'ENERGY, ELECTRO- [English] NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARA- YANAN): (a) and (b).No, Sir; it is not possi- Vlctlmlutlon of Scientists of Indian ble to increase the number of channels on Institute of Tropical Meteorology INSAT-IB which is already in orbit. How- ever, when INSAT-IC, the second satel,lite *160. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will of the two-satellite INSAT-I system carry- the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: ing identical payloads, is launched next year, it will provide not only a back-up to (a) whether Government are aware of I NSAT -I B but also additional capacities for the reports about alleged harassment of operational use in telecommunications scientists working in the Indian Institute of and TV net working. Tropical Meteorology:
(c) The Headquarters of the NICNET (b) if so, the reaction of.. Government Communication Network of the National thereon: and Informatics Centre will be at Delhi. (c) the corrective steps taken, if any? (d) INSAT-IB is a geo-synchron.ous satellite which does not possess remote THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sensing application payloads. As such, the MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- INSAT-IB facilities are not used for oil LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE exploration. DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- (e) INSAT-IB has been operating succe- NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARA- ssfully in orbit for over 3% years. It has YANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. supported telecommunications, TV broad- casting and networking, radio networking (b) The Government's inqUIries have and meteorological services. Specifically, revealed that there is no harassment of INSAT-IB today supports nearly 4000 Scientists working in.the Indian Institute of telephone channels over about 68 long Tropical Meteorology. distance routes, including links to other- wise inaccessible remote regions and (c) Does not arise. 49 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 50
One tamly one job PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM): There is no programme by the name of 'One family one job'. However the Rural Landless Employment Guarantee 1532. SHRI R.P. CAS: Will the Minister Programme (RLEGP) was initiated by the of PLANNING be pleased to state the pro- Prime Minister on the 15th August. 1983. gress made so far under the programme under which it is envisaged to provide "one famUy one job" initiated by the Prime employment to at least one member of Minister? every rural landless iabour household upto 100 days in'a year. The actual achievement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by way of employment generated since the MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- inception of the Programme is indicated TER OF STATE .IN THE MINISTRY OF below:
(Figures in million mandays)
Period Target Achievement
Sixth Plan (1983-84 & 1984-85) 300.00 262.75
1985-86 205.73 237.98
1986-87 236.45 302.95
1987-88 254.82 35.43 (Provisional upto June, 1987)
Grants and Loans to West Bengal proposed to be given to the State during the year 1987-88? 1533. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will the Minister.of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE (a) the amount of grants given to West DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN Bengal by Union Government during the THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. last three years, year-wise; GADHVI): (a) to (c). A Statement showing the Central assistance for State plans (b) the amount given to the State as (loans and grants) released to West Bengal loans during the said period; and from 1984-85 to 1986-87 and the allocated assistance (loans and grants) for 1987-88 (c) the amount of grants and loans is given below. STATEM.ENT
Central Assistance for State P/ans- West Bengal
(Rs. in lakhs)
Years Loans Grants Total
1 '2 3 4
1984-85 (Releases) 2769.235 1186.815 3956.050
1985-86 (Releases) 12998.378 6690.162 19688.540 51 Written AnswerS AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Answers 52
1 2 3 4
1986-87 (Releases) 16191.659 7978.431 24170.090
18393.400 8760.600 27154.000
EnvIronmentIII Clearance of Projects In schemes including the date of clearing the H.P. scheme; and
1534. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- (d) if not, the likely date by which each SHAR: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- one of the schemes would be cleared? MENT AND· FORESTS be pleased to state:
(a) whether the State Government of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Himachal Pradesh have forwarded develop- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND mental' schemes for clearance, which FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) to (c): involve felling of trees since the beginning Yes, Sir. A Statement is given below. of the Seventh Plan till date. (d) The undecided case in which (b) if so, the details thereof alongwith information is awaited from the State, are dates on which they were first received by processed as soon as the information is the Union Government; received. It is therefore not possible to indicate the exact date when each case (c) the action taken on each of the would be decided.
STATEMENT Proposals received under forest (conservation) act, 1980 since the beginning of VII to Five Year Plan s. Name of the proposai Date of Forest ar~a Last action No. receipt involved taken and (in ha.) date
1 2 3 4 5
1. Construction of 132 12.7.85 0.42 Approved on KV transmission line 20.9.85 from Jassure to Bathri:
2. Construction of Hou- 16.7.85 4.0 Rejected on sing Colony in Simla '19-5-86 distt.
3. Construction of Rub- 22.7.85 4 (bighas) Approved on ani to Mano.a road 5.8.85 in Mandi district.
4. Laying of electric 22.7.85 1.170 Approved on lines within the 5.6.86 Municipal limit of Simla. 53 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 54
, 2 3 4 5
5. Construction & Im- 18.7.85 . 0.10 Proposal provement of summer- returned on hill Chaili Road in 5.8.85 sr.r1la distt.
6. Construction of Ch,i- 18.7.85 41.5 (bighas) Proposal ttadhartu to Ohamas returned on road in Mandi distt. S.8.BS
7. Construction of Bodh- 18.7~85 25.91 Approved on ChakklOharroadin 5.8.86 Kangra distt.
8. Construction of water 6.8.85 Proposal channel in Kulu distt. returned on 13.8.85
9. Construct.ion of 2201 25.7.85 5.3 Essential details 132 KV sub-station in have been sought Sirmour dlstt. from State Govt. on 23.2.87
10. Construction of appro- 21.8.85 20.437. Approved on ach road to south 1.7.87 & north portals of Rohtang tunnel.
11. Construction of Cha- 21.8.85 4.97 Proposal ura Adit road by returned on Nathpa Jhakri Hydel 3-9-BS Project.
12. Construction of Mat- 16.9.85 4.9 Essential de- iana Baragaon road. tails sought from State Govt. on 29.10.86.
13. Nathpa-Jhakri Hydro- 7.10.85 153.94 Approved on Electric Project 25.4.86 14. Construction of 15.10.85 0.67 Re;ected on godowns for Centr.' 30.1.87 Warehousing Corporation 15. Construction of 132 KV 18.11.15 5.337 Eseantial de- Solan-Kunihar tails sought from transmission line SlMe Govt. on 14.7.87 16. Construction of 22.1.86 Essential Challa Ghoond details sought road in Simla from State distt. Govt. on 13.2.86 55 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Answers 56
1 2 3 4 5
17. Construction of water 24.2.86 0.105 Approved on storagf) tank in 30.5.88 Simla distt..
18. Construction of 24.2.86 23.625 Approved on 220 KV transmisston 13.3.86 line from Sungra to Borotiwala
19. Construction of 18.3.86 4.n Approved on 66 KV incoming line 4.6.86' from Averi to Nooli and out going from Nogli to Averi
20. Construction, of Cha- 17.3.86 78.78 Approved on mera Hydro-Electric 17.6.87 Project State-II.
21. Construction of 400 KV 21.3.86 45.6 Approved on Khiari to Moga trans- 6.'11.86 mission line of Cha- mera H.ydro-Electric Project.
22. Construction of link 31.3.86 0.6 Essential details road from Shillaro sought from to Reog State GoYl. on 25.5.87.
23. Mining of lime stone 10.. 6.86 6.8 Essential details on lease basis in sought from Sirmour distt. State GoYl. on 11.7.86.
24. Construction of link 19.8.86 4.18 Essential 'de- road in simla distt. tails sought from State GoYl. on 19.12.86.
25. Construction of Ganvi 1.9.86 28.58 Approved on Hydel Project. 30.7.87.
26. Construction off 132 KV 8.9.86 7.930 Essential de- transmission line tails sought from Dehar to from State Gaggal GoYl. on 26.3.87
27. Construction' of 132 KV 26.9.86 3.78 Essential de- transmission line tails sought from Kunihar from State to Simla Govt. on 21.5.87 57 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers- "5lf
1 2 3 4 5 - Approved on 28. Construction of SanJay 21.10.88 0.88 Vtdyut Partyojana 29.12.88- S,habe Augmentation Project
29. Construction of 132 KV 27.10.88 29.71 Approved on OIC transmission line 11.8.1987 from larji to Gaggal.
30. Construction of 132 KV 27.10.88 24.4405 Approved 'on transmission line from 11.6.87 larji to Hamirpur.
31 .. Construction of 220 KV 29.10.88 4.445 Eaaential c:t. transmission line from tails received Khodri to MaJri from State GoYI. on 29.7.87 under consideration.
32. Construction of Larji 13.11.86 16.28 Approved on Hydel Project. 27.1.87
33. Construction of a Rest 8.12.86 0.08 Rejected on House at Habben 30.12.88 Essential de- 34. Construction of UHL 23.12.86 22.10 state-III Hydel tails 80ught from State GaYi. on Project f 19.5.87
35, Construction of 132 KV 5.1.87 3.925 Essential de- SIC transmission line tails sought from Chullah to from State Hamirpur Govt. on 14.5.87
36. Construction of 132 KV 5.1.87 6.14 Essential d .... D/C transmission line tails sought from ChuUah to Hamirpur from State Govt. on 24.6.87
37. Release of land to land- 28.1.87 5.3 Rejected on less people in Chamba 26,2.87 distt.
38. Release of land to 28.1.87 5.5 Rejected on landless people under 27.2.87 20 point programme in Chamba distt.
39. Construction of Banner 3.2.87 9.85 Essential de- Hydro-electric Project tails sought from State GoYi. on 18.3.87 59 Written Answ8_rs AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 60
1 2 .3 4 5
40. Establishment of opera- 25.2.87 2.184 &.ntla. de- tional ground for tails sought from . I.A.F. Station, State GoYl. on Pathankot 1.4.87
41. Grant of Nautors to 6.3.87 7.700 Rejected on landless and other 15.4.87 eligible persons under 20 point programme
42. Construction of additional 8.4.87 0.14 Rejected on Suit to Circuit House in 25.5.87 Klnnaur distt.
43. Construction of 132 KV 9.4.87 14.04 Essential de- transmission line from taU. sought from Larj. to Sarabhai in State GoYl. on Kulu distt. 4.5.87
44. Construction of Gaj Hydro 15.5.87 11.85 Essential de- Bectric Project. tall. sought from State Govt. on 21.5.87
45. Extension of Ganpatl- 15.5.87 0.808 Essential de- ki-road from Km. 19/200 tails sought from to 24/00 in Mandi State GoYI. on did. 4.6.87
46. Construction of GoYInd 15.5.87 4.935 Essential de- Bathing Ghat at Paonta tails sought from sahib in Sirmour State Govt. on distt. 28.5.87
47. Construction of D.A. V. 2.8.87 4.00 Rejected on College in Simla distt. 30.6.87
48. Construction of 132 KV 9.6.87 26.47 Essential de- transmission line from tails sought from Jessur to Dehra State Govt. on 30.6.87
49. Construction of 132 KV 25.6.87 0.285 e-ntlal de- OIC transmission line tails sought from . from Kunihar to Baroti- State Govt. on wala 2.7.87
SO. ConstruCtion of Kot 28.7.87 1789.42 Under Hydro-efectric Project consideration. 61 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 62
OpenIng of ... BfW1Chea country during the period from April·1986 to March 1987. State-wise and banklBank 1535. SHRt SURESH KURUP: Will the . Group-wise position of these 426 bran- Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: ches are indicated in the Statement given below. (a) number of bank branches opened in the country during 1986-87. State-wise (b) Under the current. Branch LicenSing and bank-wise; and i, Policy for 1~90 while RBI has not prescribed any yearwise. statewise or. (b) number of bank branC(hes proposed bankwise target for opening of branches to be opened during 1987-88. State-wise by the banks against the licences issued. it and bank-wise? has advised the banks that branches at the allotted centres should be opened in a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE phased manner during the remaining MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- period of the Policy. It is, therefore, not DHANA POOJARY): (a) Reserve Bank of possible to indicate the number of India (RBI) has reported that 426 branches branches that will be opened statewise or were opened by Commercial Banks in the bankwise during 1987-88.
STATEMENT
Bank-wise number of branches opened in the country during the period from April 1986 to March 1987
Name of Bank No. of offices opened
1 2 1. State Bank of India and its Associates 29
2. Andhra Bank 11
3. Allahabad Bank 28
4. Central Bank of India 17
5. Punjab National Bank 17
6. Syndicate Bank 3
7. Union Bank of India 2
8. United Bank of India 12
9. Bank of Baroda 8
10. Bank of Maharashtra 4
11. Indian Overseas Bank 2
12. Oriental Bank of Commerce 6
13. Dena Bank 3
: 14. Punjab & Sind Bank 6 63 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 64
1 2
15. Bank of India 2
16. canara Bank 2
17. Corporation Bank 1
18. UCO Bank 9
19. Regional Rural Banks 252
20. Other Indian Scheduled Commercial Banks 11
21. Foreign Banks' 1
Total:- 426
State-wise/Union Territory-wise number of branches opened In the country during the period from April 1986 to March 1981.
Name of States/ No. of offices opened Union Territories
1 2
1. Andhra Pradesh 39
2. Assam 10
3. Bihar 14 ., 16 4. Gujarat
5. Haryana 12
8. Himachal Pradesh 13
7. Karnataka 32
a. Kerala 3
8. Madhya Pradesh 54
10. Maharashtra 37
11. Meghalaya 4
12. Nagaland 1
13. Orissa 11
14. Punjab 10 I 65 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 66
1 2
15. . Rajasthan 17
18.. Tamil Nadu 6
17. Uttar Pradesh 72
18. West Bengal 88
19. Arunachal Pntdesh
20. Delhi
21. Mizoram 1
Total:- , Economic 11es with Countries relate to trade and aid. Parliament is being kept informed with regard to major 1536. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH :'Will the agreements reached in this regard from Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: time to time. Non-Plan expenditure (a) whether any country has shown keen interest in expanding economic ties with 1537. SHAI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDH- India, ARY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether delegations from these countries. visited the country and had (a) the non-plan expenditure of the discussions with the Union Government; Union Government during 1~84 to 1986-87, year-wise; and (c) the areas where they have agreed to expand the ties with India; (b) the steps Government propose to take to curtail the increase of non-plan (d) whether any agreement in this regard expenditure? has been reached; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) if so, details thereof? DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI B.K. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE GADHVI): (a) The information is available DEPARTMENT' OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. in Annexure 3 to the Budget document GADHVI): (a) to (e). Inala maintains close "Expenditure Budget 1987-88, Vol. 1" and economic and commercial relationship is reproduced below:- with other countries and several of them Year Non-Plan expenditure have shown keen interest in expanding of the Central their relations with India. The exchange of Government delegations between India and these countries for furtherance of economic ties (Rs. croreS) is a continuous process. The areas covered during these discussions ma'inly 1~84 20017 - 67 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 68
THE ~INISTER OF STATE IN THE Year Non-Plan expenditure DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN of the Central THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt B.K. Government GADHVI) : (a) The total aid pledges indicated at the Aid India Consortium for 1984-85 25063 the fiscal year 1987-88 were of the order of US $ 5.4 bit.lion as against US· $ 4.5 1985-86 29705 billion pledged for the fiscal year 1986-87. . - 1986-87 (RE) 37396 (b) Fonnal indications of likely aid commitments for a particular year are made at the annual Aid India Consortium meetings. The riieeting to formalise (b) Instructions have been issued to all commitments, including World Bank MinistrieslDepartments to observe strict Group commitments, for the Bank ·fiscal budgetary control. year 1989, which corresponds to a large part of our flnancia' year 1988-89 would StappIIge of EB due to _...... ,." or only be held In June, 1988. It is/however, criminal ca. anticipated that Bank group assistance for 1988-89 would not be less than the amount 1538. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: committed for 1987-88 wt{ich is US $2.5 Will the PRIME MINISTER 'be pleased to billion. refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 4127 on 25 March, 1987 Loan ~catlons ReceIved In regarding stoppage of EB due to disciplin- Mldnapore District of West Bengal ary or criminal cases and state the details of action taken on the judgement of the Central Administrative Tribunal of Hydera- 1540. SHRI MATILAL HANSDA: Will the bad in this regard? Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) the number of applications for loans MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC Lnler various schemes received by natio- GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI nalised banks.n Midnapore district of West BIREN SINGH ENGTI): After examining Bengal during 1984-85, 1985-86 and 198tr the implications of the judgement deliver- 87; ed by the Central Administrative Tribunal on 2.3. 1987. Special Leave Petitions (b) the numbe( of applications sanQtion- against this judgement have been filed ed, rejected and pending for more than six before the Supreme Court. months and one year, separately; and
(c) the reasons for rejecting applications 7
1539. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- CHANA POOJARy) : (a) to (c). The (a) the amount of Consortium assis- Informatlon'ls being collected and will be tance India is likely to receive for the laid on the Table. of the House to the extent currant financial year and how does it poeaIbIe- compare with the amount pledged the previous y.r; and Imported T __.MJIogy
(b) the aid India expects from the World 1541. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will Bank during 1988-897 the' PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 69 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answ61S 70
(a) whether government have given components, namely Logistical and $cien- freedom to entrepreneurs to select their I tific. Logistics work would involve conti- own imported technology; nuation of supplies namely food, clothing, fuel, medicines etc. to the permanent (b) if so, the reasons therefor: station in Antarctica, repair and mainten- ance of buildings I and all services and the (c) the progress made in, the procure- construction of new buildings etc. as and ment of imported video cassette recorder when required. technology: and Scientific work in meteorology, upper (d) other measures taken to manu- atmosphere, oceanography, geology. facture VCR and VCP in the country? geophysics. biology and geomagnetism. which are, of an on-going nature, will be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE continued. Exploration of living and non- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- living resources in accessible areas of LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE Antarctica will be intensified. DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- Allocation to States In FIfth & Sixth Plan N!C~ AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARAYA- NAN): (a) Yes. Sir. 1543. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (b) Units are permitted to select technology keeping ill view the demand, (a) the amount allocated to the States competitiveness and possibility for quick during Fifth and Sixth Five Year Plan absorption. periods, plan-wise and State-wise details thereof: (c) and (d). Composite applications for the manufacture of VCRNCP were invited (b) whether State Government were able by Government vide Press Note of to utilise all the funds allotted: October 25. 1985. Government is consi- dering to allow manuf~cture of VCRs by (c) if not. the names of those States who one unit in public sector and another in were unable to utilise the funds: private sector with foreign collaborations and also to ensure that the existing (d) the reasons thereof; capacity already created for the manu- facture of video deck mechanism is fully (e) whether some State Governments utilised. had failed to mobilise required additional resources during the period; and Exploration Programme In Antarctica (f) if so, the names of those States and to 154~. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Will what extent? the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the details of future exploration program- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE me in Antarctica? MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS-- TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PROGRAMME 1~1PLEMENTATION (SHRI MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- SUKH RAM): (a) A Statement is given LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE below. DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- (b) to (d) The Fifth Plan (1974-79) was NICS AND SPACE (SHRt K.R. NARAYA- terminated one year ahead of its schedule. NAN): Future' exploration programme of As such. the question of States having Antarctica would 'include two ~ajor utilised the allocated funds in full or 71 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written All8wers 72
otherwise during the F ~fth Plan period, did raising additional resources in comparison not arise. During the Sixth Plan period. to the five year target fixed for the Fifth Five however. the States were by and large able Year Plan also dQaS not arise the plan was to utilise the approved allocations except terr,1inated one year earlier. During the in the case of Bihar, Haryana. Punjab and Sixth Plan. however, there was a shortfall West Bengal. The main reason for shortfall in relation to the five year target of in the utilisation of approved allocations in additional resource mobilisation in respect the case of these States, was their inability of Assam (Rs. 187.4 cro'res), Manipur (4.59 to raise adequate resources of their own. crores). Tripura (As. 1.09 crores) and Haryana (Rs. 30.63 crores). (e) and (f).. The question of shortfall in STATEMENT
State-wi•• allocations during 5th and 6th Flve- Year Plans
(Rs. crores)
States 5th Plan 6th Plan (1974-79) (198O-~)
1 2 3
Andhra Pradesh 1333.58 3100.00
Assam 473.84 1115.00
Bihar 1296.06 3225.00
Gujarat 1185.76 3680.00
Haryana 601.34 1800.00
Himachal Pradeeh 238.95 560.00
J&K 362.64 900.00
Karnataka 997.67 2265.00
Kerala 568.96 1550.00
Madhya Pradesh _ 1379.71 3800.00
Maharashtra 2347.61 6175.00
Manipur 92.86 240.00
Meghalaya 89.53 235.00
Nagaland 83.63 ·210.00
Orissa 585.02 ' 1500.00,
Punjab 1013.49 1957.00
Rajasthan 709.24 2025.00 73 Written Answers SRAVANA 1~, 1909 (SAKA) written Answers 74
1 2 3
Slkklm 39.64 122.00
Tamil Nadu 1122.32 3150.00
Tripura 89.68 245.00
Uttar Pradesh 2445.88 5850.00
West Bengal 1246.83 3500.00
Total States 18284.2247204.00
Science and Technology for Women ted in Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Madhya Scheme Pradesh, Kerala, Uttar Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Haryana. Delhi, Maharashtra and 1544. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: West Bengal and cover areas such as: wm the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to research and development on agricultural state: tools to be operated by women; entre- preneurship development for economi- (a) the number of women benefited by cally backward women; studies on non- the scheme "Science and Technology for conventional fuels; transfer of new deve- Women" in Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu lopments in science and technology; an~ Andhra Pradesh: and training of girls to make educational kits for Anganwadi and Balwadi children; (b) the number of new projects which training for women to make cocoa were approved by the· Expert Committee products; eco-develqpment camps; deve- under the "Science and Technology for lopment of fishfeed; programmes related Women" Scheme and the amount sanc- to prevention and treatment of fluorosis; tioned for this scheme in 1986-87 and the income generating activities for women of details of those new projects? Garh\"Jal region; training of rural women in cultivation of medicinal plants; training of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE women as rural health workers; dry-land MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- farming and tasar silk production. A LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE coordinated programme on water manage- DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- ment, health and sanitation was also MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- initiated. NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.N. NA"RAYA- NAN) : (a) About 4,000 women have benefited by the scheme Science and Conversion of non-convertlble Technology for Women in the states, of debentures Into equity capital Kerala, KarnatakQ, Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh through demonstration and train- 1545. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN ing programmes. RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: Will the Minister of • FI NANCE be pleased to state: (b) During th~ year 1986-87, 20 new projects approved by the Expert Com- (a) the number of companies that were mittee on Science and Technology for allowed conversion into equity capital of Women were sanctioned. The financial the non-convertible debentures or non- outlay for 1986-87 was Rs. 40 lakhs. The convertible portion of convertible deben- approved projects were being implemen- tures after 1 January. 1984; 75 Written Answel3 AUGUST 6, 1987 Written An~wers 78
(b) the total amount allo.wed to be so eol.ctIoI. for BIcI Work...... capitalised ; Fund
(c) the number of companies that were refused conversion of non-convertible 1"546. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA: Will debentures or non-convertible portion of the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to convertible debentures; and state:
(d) the reasons for such refusal? (a) the total amount collected during 1985-86 and 1986-87 from different States THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for the Bidi Workers Welfare' Fund, State- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN wise details thereof; and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI) : (a) Two companies were (b) the details of the Welfare Schemes allowed conversion into equity capital of on which the amount from this wetfare the non-convertible portion of convertible fund has been spent during the above debentures after 1st January, 1984. mentioned period together with the amount spent on each of these schemes (b) The total amount allowed to be with State-wise details thereof? ' converted was As. 77.17 crores.
(c) Two companies were refused con- version of the non-convertible debentures! THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE non-convertible portion of convertible DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN debentures. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI) : (a) Statement-I giving the (d) In view of the substantial amount of details is given below. speculation which was reported based largely on the expectations that at some future date conversion would be permit- (b) Statewise details of expenditure from ted, a decision was taken by Government the fund is not available, since the that rion-convertible debentures and non- accounts are maintained regionwise with convertible portion of party convertible each region covering a few states. debentures would not be allowed to. be Statement-II giving regionwise details is converted into equity. given below.
STATEMENT I
State-wi.. ee88 collected on Bidi for the year 1985-86 and 1986-87
(Provisional figures) (As. lakhs)
StatelU.T. 1985-86 1~87
1 2 3
Uttar Pradesh 23 25
Maharashtra 32 34
Madhya Pradesh 80 81
A & N Island/Slkklm 30 35 71 Written Answers SRAVANA 15,,1909 (SAKA) Written Answ8lS~ 78
1 2
West Beng_'
Orissa 4
DelhilH_ryana
Rajasthan 5 4
Chandigarh
Himachal Pradesh
Jammu & Kashmir
Punjab
Pondlcherry 52 Tamil Nadu }
Arunachal Pradesh Assam 1 Manipur
Meghalaya Neg Neg Mizoram
Nagaland
Tripura
Dadra & Nagar Haveli 1 1 Territory of Daman & Diu
Gujarat
Andhra Pradesh 62 60
Karnataka 56 58
Bihar 21 20
Karala
Lakshadweep island 14 14
Goa
Tota. 380 390 79 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 80
STATEMENT-II
Regionwise and Headwise expenditure for theyears 1985-86 & 1986-87 on the Seed; Worker. WfJlfare Scheme
Region States Head 1985-86 1986-87 Covered
(Rs. in (Rs. in lakh) lakh) (Provi- (Provi- sional) sional)
1 2 3 4 5 Hyderabad Andhra Pradesh Administration 3.32 3.29 Tamil Nadu Health 19.11 24.23 Education 9.99 8.48 Housing 0.07
32.49 36.00
Allahabad U.P.• J&K Admn. 4.51 4.80 Delhi. Punjab Health 11.98 13.27 Education 4.41 7.00 Recreation 0.10 0.16 Housing 0.49 0.69
21.49 25.92·
Bhllwara Rajasthan Admn. 1.76 3.10 Gujarat Health 12.94 18.40 Haryana Education 4.80 8.25 Recreation 0.04 0.21 .. Housing - 19.54 34.46
Bhuvaneswar Assam Admn. 4.55 3.58 W. Bengal Health 26.17 21.40 Orissa Education 6.52 2.79 Recreation 0.18 0.04 Housing 0.28 0.20
37.70 28.01
NaQPur Maharashtra Admn. 5.10 7.00 Goa Health 13.09 20.07 Education 16.91 15.50 Housing 0.24 0.05
35.34 42.62 81 Wrltren Answers 'SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 82
1 2 a .. 5 Kirma Bihar Admn. 1 .• ~.A. Health 11.97 N.A. Recreation 0.30 N.A. Housing N.A. Education 4.00
17.78
Jabalpur M.P. Admn. 3.83 4.«> Health ".27 19.42 education '8.92 11.81 Recreation 0.09 0.01 Housing 0.25 . 0.15
32.14 35.79
Bangslore Kamatake Adln". 4.78 N.A. Kerale .....,th 38.29 N.A. Education 8.18 N.A. Houalng 0.32
52.57
calcutta w. Bengal Admn. Data included 6.29 Assam Health in Bhubaneswar 1:'.31 Meghalaya Education Region, as 10.11 Nagaland Housing the Unit was 0.25 Tripura not formed. in 1985-86 29.96
AddItIonal Employment OpporUdtles PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM) : (a) to (c). The thrust 1548. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: areas for creating additional employment Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased opportunities during the Seventh Plan to state: (1985-90) have been indicated in the Seventh Plan document (Chapter 3 of (a) whether Government have identified Vol .., and Chapter 5 of Vol. II), which some thrust areas for creating additional 'Nas placed on the Table of the House. employment opportunities by 1990; The strategy in the Seventh Plan in the (b) if so, the details thereof; and context of employment creation includes expansion of irrigation facilities, extension (c) the details of the employment of new agricultural technologies to lo~ opportunities expected to be generated in productivity regions and small farmers . . those areas? expansion of labour intensive construction activities, expansion of primary education THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~nd basic health facilities, creation of pro- MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- ductive assets through rural development TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF programmes an~ acceleration of industrial 83 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 84
growtt'l. In addition to the sectoral invest- cial focus on persons living below the pov- ments which, would result in expansion of erty line. A Self-Employment Programme employment opportunities, there has been for Urban Poor (SEPUP) was also in operation three major poverty alleviation launched. programmes, namely, the National Rural Employment Programme (NREP), the R~ral Landless Employment Guarantee The sectorwise details of the additional Programme (RLEGP), and the Integrated employment expected to be created in the Rural Development Programme (IRDP) to Seventh Plan as given in the Seventh Plan tackle the problem of unemployment and document are furnished in the Statement under-employment in rural areas with spe- below.
STATEMENT
Employment Profile of the Seventh Plan
(Million standard person years)
Sector Estimated Projected Increase in employment employment employment in in 1984-85 in 1989-90 Seventh Plan
1. Agriculture 96.108 114.092 17.984
a) Crop sector 58.750 65.720 6.970
b) Non-crop sector 37.353 48.372 11.014
2. Mining and quarrying 1.153 1.494 0.341
3. Manufacturing 26.790 3S.466 6.676
4. Construction 10.427 12.624 2.197
5. Electricity 1.031 1.498 0.467
6. Railways 1.544 1.688 0.144
7. Other transport 9.440 11.810 2.370
8. Communications 0.951 1.224 0.273
9. Other services 39.261 49.165 9.904
Total 186.705 227.061 40.356
RehabIlitation of MIs. Kabini Papers Ltd. (a) whether Mis. Hindustan Lever Ltd. is entitled to any financial benefits accruing 1549. PROF. MADtiU DANDAVATE: from iis association with the sick unit viz. Will the Minister of F;NANCE be pleased to Mis. Kabini Papers Ltd.; refer· to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 8525 on 29 April, 1987 regarding rehabilitation of MIs. Kabini (b) if so, whether such benefits will be Papers Ltd. and state: allowed to be retained after its reported 85 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 86 . inability to renew the conversion agree- (b) According to the studies of satellite ment beyond 31st December, 1986; and imagery by the National Remote SenSing Agency, the total area with forest cover in (c) if not, the steps taken therefor? the country for the period 19~82 was estrmated at 46.35 million hectares. THE MINISTER OF ·STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- DHANA POOJARV) : I, (a) to (c). The Outlay for centrally sponsored echemes information is being collected and to the extent available and ~rmissible under 1551. SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOS- rules would be laid on the Table of the SAIN: Will the Minister of PLANNING be House. pleased to state:
-Forest Cover (a) the total outlay for major centrally sponsored schemes in different States 1550. SHRt· AMARSINH RATHAWA: during the 7th Five Year Pian,· State-wise; wili the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (b) the actual expenditure during 1985- 86 and 1986-:87 and th~allocation for 1987- (a) when the last survey on the forest 88, State-wise: and area in the country was made; and Cc) the contribution of the State Govern- (b) what is the total forest area in the ments in each scheme in terms of count'ry according to the last survey? percentage of total expenditure?
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND . MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) The TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF last survey of the area under forest cover in PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI the country was carried out by the National SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). Statements Remote Sensing Agency in 1980-82. I-V are given below. 87 AUGUST 6, 1987 W.rltten Answet3
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SHRt PtYUS TtRAKY: Will the Sing awareness and implemen- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND ting beneficiary oriented nursery FORES~S be pleased to state: and afforestation works; (a) the steps taken to popularise the (ii) Assistance is given to individuals, scheme of social' forestry among the preferably rural poor for raising masses; nu~ries under the scheme of Decentralised People's nurser- (b) the incentive given to voluntary ies; organisations or individuals to popularise the scheme; (iii) Free distribution of seedlings to small and marginal farmers under (c) the steps taken especially in 'Nest Farm Forestry; Bengal to create forest belt ·all along the river sides, big or small to check soil (iv) Tree Patta Scheme under which erosion and flood: and assistance is given to landl~ss, small/marginal Farmers and (d) the total forest area at present in West Rural poor for tree planting on Bengal district-wise? allocated lands. In addition usu- fruct rights over planted trees are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN. THE also given. MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Steps taken to popularise social forestry by (c) Plantations are raised on canal involving people in nursery raising, farm banks, embankments river sides etc under forestry, creating fuel and fodder planta-. strip plantation component of externally . tions on common lands, promotion of tree aided social forestry project under' imple- grower's cooperatives, tree pattas, etc. mentation in West Bengal for checking soil erosion and floods. (b) The incentives being given to voluntary organisations or individuals to popularise the scheme are as under: (d) The total forest area in West Bengal is 11,879 Sq. km., district-wise break-up is (i) A grant in-aid scheme to assist the given in the Statement below. STATEMENT District-wise forest area: West Bengal S.No. District Forest Area Sq. Km. 1. Bankura 1482 2. Burdwan 277 3. Birbhum 159 4. Calcutta 5. Darjeeling 1204 8. Howrah 7. Hoogly 3 109 . Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written· Answers 110 SI. No. District Forest Area Sq. Km. 8. Jalpaiguri 1790 9. Kooch Behar 57 10. . "'da 20 11. Midnapore 1709 12. Murshidabad 8 13. Nadia 13 14. Purulia 876 15. 24-Parganas 4263 16. West Dinajpur 18 TOTAL 11879 Source: West Bengal Forest Statistics, 1985 Hostels tor SCIST GIrls SIudents (b) the number of girls occupying these hostels, State-wise? 1553. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) the number of hostels in the country MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRt GIRI- for girts students belonging to the DHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe. requisite information is given in the State-wise; and Statement below. 111 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answ61S 112 _, ~ CD ~ GO m 8 :8 --..... 1 11 ~ , ~o - -It I I e - - -) •- • -- !J II: - a t- 4D I&. 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Pre- (b) the total amount of loans granted in sumably, the Hon'ble Member is referring each of the three said years; to the loans sanctioned under the Scheme for providing Self Employment to the (c) the number of unemployed persons Educate<;1 Unemployed Youth (SEEUY) expected to be giver:" loans by the end of which was introduced in the year 1983-84. the Seventh Five Year Plan; Number of loans and amount sanctioned during the last three years to unemployed (d) nU'mber of loan applications rejected persons under the Scheme in Kerala are as during each of the three years referred to in under: Years 1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 1. No. of loans sanctioned 11,907 13,033 19,015 2. Amount of loans sanctioned (Rs. in lakhs) 2,129.70 2,452.37 3,805.65 (c). State-wise physical targets under in due course. the SEEUY Scheme have not been finalised for 1987-88 and also for the (d)' and (e). Reserve Bank of India have remaining period of Vllth Five Year Plan. r:eported that information regarding Pending finalisation of targets for the year number of applications rejected under the 1987-88, 300;0 of the target fixed for the SEEUY/Scheme is not available with them. proceeding year has been provisi'onally However, the number of applications intimated to States/Union Territories. The sponsored to the Bank Branches and the final targets for each State/Union Territory targets laid down for the last three years in are being worked out and shalt be Kerala are as under: communicated to States/Union Territories Y.r No. of applications Targets sponsored to the Banks 1984-85 16,049 13,300 1985-86 16,153 13,000 1988-87 27,069 20,000 119 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 120 RB) have further reported that a study igect Banks from the requ;r~ent of tax conducted by them through their Regional deduction at source under sec. 193 of the Offices in certain States including Kerala LT. Act, 1961 in respect of income relating regarding the rejection of applications to interest on Central and State Govts. received under SEEUY sCheme, inter-alia, securities payable to these banks. Sub- revealed that main reasons for rejection sequently, on review of the question, the were as under: Govt. decided to restrict the benefit of the aforesaid concession only to the 7 Public (i) applicants belonged to affluent Sector Banks whose ratio of published society. profits to working funds is low (less than 0.1 %); viz., UCO Bank, United Bank of (ii) Project cost exceeded the ceiling India, Dena Bank, New Bank of India, of assistance prescribed ° ~nder Punjab and Sind Bank, Vijaya Bank and the Scheme. Punjab National Bank, and withdrew 1he concession in the case of the other Banks. (iii) Applicants were employed elsewhere. (d) No, Sir. Government is not aware that (iv) Applicants could not procure the withdrawal of the aforesaid concession electric connection. in the case of some Public Sector Banks has created any dissension among them. (v) Applicants were defaulters in However, a Press report in this regard has respect of earlier loans. come to the notice of the Government. Concessions to Public Sector Banks on (e) At present no proposal is under Interest Income consideration of the Government to 1555. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARA- review the earlier ·decision of the Govern- SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister ment. of FINANCE be pleased to state: Import of Computers from awg.rta (a) whether Government have given concession to a few public sector banks in 1556. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will paying tax on the interest income of their the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: investments in the Central and State securities; (a) whether it is proposed to import computers from Bulgaria; (b) if so, the banks given such concession; (b) it so, the particulars of the proposed import; (c) the reasons for not giving concession to other banks; (c) whether the import shall be on Government or Private account; and Cd) whether this has created dissension among those public sector banks; and (d) whether Government propose to release foreign exchange for the purpose? (e) the further steps proposed to be taken by Governme!'l_t in this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE LOGY-AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- lME MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRoi B. K. MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- GADHVI): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. Initially the NICS, AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. -NARA- Central Government exempted the State YANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. A proposal for the Bank and its subsidiaries and the National- import qf personal computers from Bu'- 121 Written Answ.'!rs SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 garia have been cleared by the Govern- (c) the percentage credit given to the ment. various sectors as against the percentage of the Gross Domestic Product (GOP)? . (b) 100 nos. of personal computers were allowed for import for the development of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Urdu language. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). According (c) The import shall be on private to the information available from Reserve account. Bank of India the outstanding advances of scheduled commercial banks as at the end (d) On the basis of the licence issued by of March, 1987 to agriculture. small scale the Government. the party can get the industry and large and medium industry release of foreign exchange from Reserve were As. 10578crores, Rs. 9103 croresand Bank of India. Rs. 22187 crores respectively. The share of agriculture in total bank credit increased Credit to Agriculture Sector vis-a-vis from 10 per cent in March, 19n to 16.9 per Industrial Sector cent in March, 1987 'whereas the share of medium and large industries has declined 1557. SHRt P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: from 42 per cent to 35.5 per cent. The flow Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to of credit to any particular sector depends state: upon the number and credit absorption (a) whether credit provided to agricul- capacity of schemes/projects in the sector. ture sector is comparatively low against the credit advanced to industrial sector, if Tables below give (1) Sector-wise so, the details thereof; percentage of bank credit to total gross credit and (2) Industry Group-wise Distri- (b) the reasons behind such a policy; bution of Gross Domestic Product (GOP) and during 1985-86. 1. Sectoral Distribution of Gross Bank Credit as at the end of March, 1987 @ Sector 'MIage of bank credit to total gross bank credit Agriculture 18.9 Small Scale Industry 14.8 Medium and Large Industry 35.5 Others 33.0 Total Gross Bank Credit 100.00 NOTE:@ Data relates to 50 banks which account for about 85 per cent of gross bank credit. Sectoral data are based on proviSional returns. 123 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 124 2. Induatry-Groupwlse Distribution of Gross Domestic ProdUCt at factor coat by Industry of origin during 1985-88 (at 1970-71 prices) Industry Group Share of percentage 1. Agriculture, 'forestry and logging, fishing, mining and quarrying 38.9 Manufacturing, constr~ction, electricity, gas and water supply. 21.9 3. Transport, Communications and Trade 19.9 ~. 21.3 TOTAL 100.00 PromoIon to the posts of Collectors of Proposal for PrInting of Currency notes Central Excise ~ C.-toms Abroad 1558. SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. SIDDIQ: Will 1559. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will the the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: state: (a) whether there is 8 proposal to get the (a) whether departmental promotion currency notes printed abroad and if so, committees have not met for long to fill in the details thereof; and the vacant posts of Collector of Customs and Central Excise; (b) whether the Government are con- templating to place an order with a foreign (b) whether restructuring of the Col- firm for printing of notes ~f different lectorates of Central Excise and Customs denominations, and if so, details thereof? is pending for sometime: and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the reasons thereof and steps MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- taken to till in all the posts in the grade of DHANA POOJARY): (8) No, Sir. Collectors? (b) Does not -arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN Gap between Rich and Poor THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. GADHVI): (a) to (c). The Departmental 1560. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will Promotion Committee fer promotion to the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to the grade of Collector of Customs and state: Central Excise met last in January, 1987. At present, there is no vacant post in the (a> what was the average difference grade. The proposals for restructuring of ~ the income of the richest and Customs and Central Excise Department poorest person in the country in 1951 and are under examination of the Govern- what was their average income respect- ment. Ively in 1951~ 125 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 (b) what was the average difference in SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). No information is the income of the richest and poorest available on economic disparity or differ- persons in the country in 1985, and what ences between the income of the poorest was their average income respectively in and the richest persons as no income 1985;8nd distribution statistics are collected by the Government. However, the information on (c) whether the difference between the distribution of the Household Con- income bf the rich and the poor in the sumption Expenditure is available from the country has decreased or increased in data collected' by the National Sample 1985 as compared to 19S1 and to what Survey Organisation (N.S.S.O.). The. table extent? below presents average per capita mon- thly expenditure of the bottom 10 per cent of expenditure category as well as that of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the top 10 per cent of the expenditure MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- category for the years 1977-78 and 1983- TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 84 for rural and urban areas separately. PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI Comparable data for 1951 is not available. (Ra.) Expenditur~ Clase 19n-78 1983-84 Rural Urban Rural Urban 1. Average per capita monthly expenditure of the bottom 1()'M, of the population (Rs.) 23.90 31.73 42.82 57.25 2. Average per capita monthly expenditure of the top 101Ma of the population (As.) 195.03 271.24 275.81 439.93 Ratio of (2) to (1) 8.18 8.55 8.47 7.88 - (c) It will be seen from the table above year 1985 for which the vouchers were that the ratio of average per capita monthly missing from Chandni· Chowk Branch of expenditure of the top 10% of the State Bank of Indore, Delhi and the details population to that of the bottom 10% of the thereot; and population declined in 1983-84 over 1977- 78, thus indicating that the relative gap has (b) the number of offi~rs/employees narrowed down to some extent. suspected to be involved in this case and the action taken against them so far? [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE , Vouchers Missing from Chandni Chowk MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- S,..,ch of State Bank of Indore DHANA POOJARY): (8) and (b). State Bank of Indore has reported that vouchers 1561. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAt: Will the of only one day relating to 15.10.1985 were Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: misplaced at its Chandni Chowk Branch, De'hi. The transactions in respect of that (aj the total number of days during the d8y have since been verified and the 127 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 128· vouchers recast.' The Banks has also lian of pension are not applicable to reported that 'no loss has been caused to Chandigarh UT employees. the Bank. The Bank has further reported that adequate arrangements have been (c) and (d). As and whensanctions/clari- made by the Branch for the safe keeping of fications are issued in this respect, the vouchers and the valuable documents. concerned Accountant Genera' ;s in-' According to the Bank, since no cons- formed of it. piracyllapse on the part of any member of the staff of the Branch came to light, no (e) The Central pay scales have so far action against any employee has been not been extended to Chandigarh Admini- taken in this case. stration employees. The recommenda- tions contained in the 4th Pay Commi~ (English] sion's report are ipso-facto not applicable PItyment of D.A. to Chandlgarh to them at par with other Central Govern- PensIoners ment employees.. 1~. DR. A. K. PATEL: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: Auclt Report on CSIR'. Annual Accounts (a) whether the Ghandigarh Administra- 1564. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: tion pensioners who had opted for Central SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: Pension Rules are not being treated at par with other Central ernployees in the matter Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to of payment of DA and merger of DA with state: pay up to admissible consumer price index (a) whether Government's attention has for calculation of the amount of pension; been drawn to the report of the Comptrol- (b) if so, the reasons therefor; ler and Auditor General relating to audit of the accounts of CSIR for 1985-86, (c) whether necessary instructions have revealing wasteful expenditure of crores of been issued to the concerned Deputy rupees; Accountant General, Punjab in this regard; (d) if not, the reasons therefor; and (b) if so, the details of the expenditure referred fo by the C & AG and his (e)' whether the Fourth Pay Commission observations; and Report recommendations would be made applicable to them at par with other (c) remedial measures which have been Central Government employees? taken in the -light of C & AG's THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE observations? .. MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL. PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE BIREN SINGH ENGTI): (a) and (b). MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TEC~NO Chandigarh Administration employees are LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE follOWing Punjab pattem of pay· scales. In DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- the matter of pension the employees are MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- governecJ by the Central Civil· Services NICS AND SPACE. (SHRI K. R. NARA- (Pension) RuleS, 1972. However, they YANAN): (a) to (c). The Report of the draw their pay and DA on scales linked to Comptroller and Auditor General of India the State of Punjab.' They are paid for the year 1985-86 (Union Government DAIADA on Punjab pattern. That being the Civil-Vol. III) has been received· by position, the orders issued by the Central Government. The details of the Comp- Government for granting dearness allow- troller and Auditor General's observations ance to its emptoyeE;S and for merging and remedial steps are summarised in the dearness allowance with, pay for calcula- Statement below. 129 Written Answers SAAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 STATEMENT (d) the estimation of the Govemment about the time required to bring Sche- Para-13: duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes people at par with the rest of the population? A certain item of equipment had been damaged due to imperfect storing. Three THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE components of the equipment had since been sent to the foreign supplier for testing, MINISTRY OF WELFARE (DR. RAJEN- remanufacturing, reconditioning or repairing ORA KUMARI BAJPAI): Para-16 (d) It is not possible to forecast a time limit as the Scheduled Castes' and This relates to certain delays in occupying Scheduled Tribes still required to come up the space in the basement of a newly at par with the rest of the population. constructed building. Th'" delays were due to general administrative· reasons beyond the control of the Institute. The space has since been occupied effectively. 1566. SHRI JAGOrsH AWASTHI: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND· Reservations for Scheduled Cas... and 'FORESTS be pleased to sta~e: .Tribes .(a) the names of the cities where all ouf 1565. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will the efforts for cleaning of Ganga have 90 far Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: been made under the' Ganga Action Plan; and (a) whether reservation of seats and other facilities for Scheduled Castes and (b) the ,rogress made in cleaning Scheduled Tribes under the constitution Ganga along Kanpur city? was to be operative for ten years only; (b) the reasons for extending the limit of the same from time to time; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN'STR~ OF ENVIRONMENT AND. (c) the impact of the reservations on the FORESTS (SHRt Z. R. ANSARI): (a) beneficiaries from the point of view of Scheme!; under' Ganga Action Plan are bettering their lots; and under execution in the following places: 131 Writtsn Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 132 U.P. Ca) whether the Central Bureau of InwtStigation registered cases against 49 1. Hardwar persons after a series of raids to check 2. Manpur. corruption throughout the country on 25 3. Allahabad. June, 1987; 4. Varanasi. (b) if so, the estimated illegal money and BIHAR property discovered in these cues; and 1. Patna (c) whether any legal action in Courts 2. Munghyr has so far been insisted in these cases? 3. Chapra 4. Bhagalpur THE MINISTER OF STATE. IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC WEST BENGAL GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS ANn MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY 1. Berhampore OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. C~IDAM 2. Hooghly-Chinsurah BARAM): (a). Yes. Sir. 3. Bhatpara 4. Barrackpure (b) Details of the total items both 5. Serampore movabtelim movable, discovered during 6. Chandannagar the course of searches conducted on 7. Titagarh 25.6.87 are given below:- 8. Panihati Cash, Bank Balance. 9. Bally FDRs, NSCs, Share 10. Kamarhati etc. Rs. 16.65 lakhs 11. Baranagar 12.. Howrah Movable assets like 13. Naihati TVs. VCRs, Jewellery 14. Calcutta Municipal Corporation and Household items including several areas of Calcutta etc. Rs. 34.75 lakhs metropolitan District. Immovable assets (b) 10 schemes to be taken up under like house, flats Ganga Action Plan have been indentified and land Rs. 45.57 kakhs. in Kanpur at an estimated cost of As. 37.30 crores. Out of this, 6 schemes at a cost of In addition, a large number of incrimina- Rs. 23.23 crores have been sanctioned. By ting documents concerning transactions end 1987-88, 2 schemes at a cost of lis. in movablelimmovable properties etc. 1.94 crores are 'expected to be completed. were also recovered which are under TiH 30th June, 1987 the executive agencies scrutiny. have reported utilisation on an amount of As. 5.21 crores for execution of schemes. (c) All the cases are under investigation and appropriate action will be taken based on the findings of the CSI. CBI RIIIds 1567. SHRIMATI N. P. JHANSI -.ndlll CommI8Mon Report LAKSHMI: DR. T. KALPANA DEVI: 1568. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (a) whether action on the Mandai 133 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKAl Written Answers 134 Commission Report is still pending with (c) the sources through which the loans Government: and are likely to be channeJised and what amount has been released: and (b) if so. when Government propose to take action on those recommendations? (d) the total requirements of funds for granting the loan? THE DUPuTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRI- DHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Report along with Action Taken Me~ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAR- randum was tabled in the House on DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (d). National 30.4.1982. The Government of India Bank for Agriculture and Rura. Develop- continue to be of the opinion that on the ment (NABARD) has been providing question of reservation for Backward refinance assistance to banks against the Classes status quo should be maintained loans extended by them to farmers for until a consensus is arrived at. setting up of nurseries for raising seedlings to be planted on Vl!8Stelands. Statewise details Of refinance assistance sanctioned by NABARD for this purpose are indicated 1569. PROF. BIMAL KANTr GHOSH: below. Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: State Refinance (a) whether National Westelands Deve- sanctioned lopment Board is to evolve a Sc.heme -for (Rs. in lakhs) seed collection and strengthening of storage facilities; and Andhra Pradesh 0.90 (b) if not, details thereof? Bhiar 3.06 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Gujarat 1.22 FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b). National Wastelands Development Himachal Pradesh 11.10 Board is considering preparation of a Scheme for Seed Farms of Fodder Grasses Madhya Pradesh 6.55 and Legumes. Details of the Scheme are yet to be worked out. Rajasthan 4.92 LDena by -NABAAD for Raising Nunet1es West Bengal 0.18 and Tree Plantations on Wasteland 157C. SHR. SOMNATH RATH: WiU the TOTAL 27.93 Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (8) whether it is a fact that National Bank The loans can be routed through for Agriculture and Rural Development is commercial banks, cooperative banks and providing loans to small farmers and land development banks. The total re- others for raising nurseries and tree quirement of funds would depend upon plantation~ on wasteland; the number of viable proposals seeking financial assistance from . the credit (b) if so, the State-wise details thereof; institutions. 135 Written A'lswers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 136 and as such the question of demanding any security by the banks, under this 1571. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the programme. does not arise. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Improvement In 88ggage Checking (a) whether it is a fact that nationalised Procedure banks while extending loan on Integrated Rural Developm~t Programme etc. 1572. SHRI Y ... S. MAHAJAN: Will the demand ~urity' for the loan; Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether the Union Agricultural (a) the procedure and arrangements Ministry has requested to waive security that exist for baggage checking by the for loans upto As. 10,000/- in cases of customs authonties at the airport at pre- Integrated Rural Development Program- sent; me, National Rural Employment Program- me etc.; and (b) the difficultieslinconvenience ex- perienced by the passengers; and (c) if so, the action taken by Government in the matter? (c) measures taken to make improve- ments in the present system so that the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE passengers are not unnecessarily detainedl MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- held up? DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). All scheduled commercial banks are required THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to fotlow the norms relating to security to MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAR- be taken in respect of their lending CHANA POOJARY): (a) The present operations as prescribed from time to time system of baggage examination and by Reserve Bank of India (RBI). In terms clearance provides that passengers not of the guidelines issued by RBI in 1984 carrying dutiable articles in excess of their banks are not required to obtain collateral free allowance are permitted to walk ~urity or third party guarantee in respect through the green channel. Examination of investment loans upto As. 5,000/- in the of baggage of such passengers is done agricultural sector and upto Rs. 25,000/- in only at random. In the case Qf passengers Industry Business Service (ISB) Sector. carrying dutiable articles, the assessment The guidefines further provide that the of duty is done on the basis of their oral assets created out of the loans are to be declaration and baggage is examined only charged to the bank as security. RBI has in cases of suspiCion. recentty issued instructions that for in- vestment loans upto Rs. 10,000/- for agriculture and allied activities under (b) and (c). Passengers occasionally I ROP, only the assets created out of the complain of delays, harassment in loan will be charged to the bank as ~urity clearance, over-valuation of goods and and banks should not ask for collateral delays in arrival of baggage in the baggage securitylthil'd party guarantee in such hall. The existing system of passenger cases. In the case of loans in excess of the clearance ensures that the bul·k of the prescribed security limits, banks can passengers are cleared expeditiously. In obtain coHaterai security or third party addition, senior officers closely monitor guarantee besides pIedge/hypothecationl and supervise the pace of clearance. mortgage of the assets created out of the Uniformity in valuation is achieved loan. through adoption of printed prince lists of items generally imported in baggage. The There is no loan component under the system of baggage examination and National Rural Employment Programme clearance is reviewed and other 137 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 appropriate measures taken from time to rajar, Tirunelveli and Kanyakumari dis- time to see that passengers are not tricts are covered by W.G.D.P. (The Nilgiris unnecessarily detained. distt. is covered by Hill Area Development Programme). Since the inception of the Western Ghat Development Programme prograrllme. schemes under afforestation, horticulture and plantation crops, dairy 1574. SHRI N'. DENNIS: Will the Minister ~evelopment,. soil conservation, roads, of PLANNING be pleased to state: cinchona and micro hydel s~heme have been implemented under the prOQramme (a) the works proposed for execution in Tamil Nadu. For the current year (1987- under the Western Ghat Development 88). a sum of Rs. 4.71 crores has been Programme during the current year. allocated 'for WGDP for Tamil Nadu. (b) the places included in the scheme in Loan to Agriculturists and 8 ...... Tamil Nadu; Community (c) the works so far executed by the 1575. SHRt S. G. GHOLAP: Will the Government under the Scheme in Tamil Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Nadu;and (a) the total loans made available (d) the amount allotted for the schemes through cooperative and commercial in Tamil Nadu in the current year? banks to farmers from 1984 to 1987 (till date) vis-a-vis the loans made available to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the business community through the MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- banks (year-wise); TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY 'OF PAOGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHAI (b) the percentage of recovery from both SUKH RAM): (a) The schemes/works the sectors; and proposed to be implemented under the Western Ghats Development Programme (c) the number of agriculturists and the vary from State to State-five States in all. businessmen, separately. whom the loans The schemes broadly fall under were given in the year 1985-86, 1986-871 Agriculture and Allied Services Sector, including Forest, Minor Irrigation, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sericutture, Khadi and Village Industries, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAR- link roads and foot bridges and Rural water DHANA POOJARY): (8) Details of sectoral supply; deployment of gross bank credit for agriculture and wholesale trade for the (b) to (d). Twenty five talukas spread four years ended March, 1987 are indicated over Coimbatore Periyar, Madurai, Kama- below: -----(Aa. in Cr0t'88) Sector Outstanding bank credit as at the end of March 1884 1985 1988 1987 (I) Agriculture 8141 7850 9058 10578 (Ii) Wholesale trade (other than food procurement) 2338 2648 3086 3072 Note: D~ta is In respect of 50 Scheduled commercial banks which account for 95'Mt of gross bank credit. 139 Written Answel'S AUGUST 6,1987- Written Answers 1«1 Details of total loan. dl8buraed by the cooperat... to the ,...... durfng the four years 1883 84 to 1818-87 are Indicated below: (Ra. In Ct'Of'fM) 1883-84 1914-85 1885-88 1886--87 2895.34 2995.99 3208.07 3500.00· • Anticipated achievement. (b) According to the informatlon made their direct agricultural advances for the available by Reserve Bank of India (RBI), three years ending June, 1986 was as the recovery percentage of all Indian follows: Scheduled commercial banks in respect of As at the end of June Percentage of recovery to Demand 1984 51.6 1985 54.2 1986 58.2@ @ Figure relates to public sector banks. Percentage of recovery of agriculturelloans by the Cooperatives during the years 1983-84 1985-88 are indicated below: At the level of 1983-84- 1984-85 1985-88 Primary Agricultural Credit Societies 60·· 60·· Primary Land Development Banks. 57·· 80·· 58.3·· •• Figures are provisional. Loans to Business and Trade are generally in the nature of cash credit/over drafts and are In the nature of running accounts. There are no fixed repayment schedules under these facilitiea. It would not therefore be possible to Indicate the level of recovery In respect of 'the business sector. (c) According to the information furni- trade and small business sector as at the shed by RBI the number borrowa. accounts of all scheduled conunercia. . end of December, 1983, December, 1984 banks in the agricult.ura! sector and retail and December, 1985 was as foltows: 141 Written AnswetS SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswltTS 142 (No. of AICa In 1M".) Sector ,. at the end of December 1813 1814 ·1885 . Agriculture 127.59 144.70 183.91 Retail Trade and Small Bu.tneu 25.70 33.02 41.46 According to information fumiahed by National Bank for Agriculture and Rural Devetopment (NABARD), the number of farmer. a ..isted by the Cooperatives during 1983-84 and 1184-85 was 2.25 cror. and 2.16 crores respectively. (TrI~ns/at;on ] Under the current Branch Licensing Policy for 1985-90 RBI by the end of OpenIng of Bank ar.K:hea In AImor8 Md December, 1986 had allotted 14 centres in PIthoragarh dlstrtcts of un. Prell•• Almora District and 28 centres in Pithoragarh District. RBI has advised the banks that branches should be opened at 1576. SHAI HAAISH AAWAT: Will the the allotted centres in a phased manner Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: dur:ng the remaining years of the Policy. Lack of infrastructural faCilities, absence of (a) the places where branches of suitable premises, deficient communi- various banks have been opened in cation facilities and non-availability of Almora and Pithoragarh districts of Uttar police station within a reasonable distance Pradesh during the last three months; for providing security are some of the reasons which lead to delay in opening of (b) whether licences issued for opening new branches. Task Forces have also not branches of different banks in these been set up at the Regional Offices of RBI districts have since been utilised; and to monitor closely the opening of branchea by banks. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? [Eng/ish] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AftoNatalion ...... In nrj ..... JANARDHANA POOJARY) : (a) to (c): Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has reported 1577. SHRI JUJHAR SINGH: Will the that according to infonnation available Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS with RBI banks had opened 7 branches in be pleased to state: Almars and Pithorllgarh Districts in Uttar Pradesh during the three months March, (a> the size of ravine 8Fe8 along the April and May, 1987 as per details given catchment of rivers in Rajasthan; and below:- (b) the details of steps taken by the Name of District Name of Centre Government to grow and develop forests ------~ Atmora 1. lJuaut on the ravine .,... in Rajathan rivera. Plthoregarh 2. Amodl 3. Chathl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4. Tawaghat MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 5. Balumakpt FOREST (SHAI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) e. Bhingrada Ravines eng gullied ..... in the rtwr 7. Chaumel catchment in Rajasthan is 4.52 lakhs he. 143 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 144 (b) Afforestation Work in the catchment' and irrigation. area$ of Gandhi Sagar, Rana Pratap Sagar, Kota Barrage, Soil conservation work are (c) The projects involve submergence of being carried out since 1962. More than forest for which compensatory 15,000 ha. of ravine areas have been afforestation plans have ~n drawn up afforested. Besides this, aerial seeding in for implementation. Action Plans for Chambal ravines has also been carried out catchment area treatment, stability of in 14,500 ha. slopes and rehabilitation of wildlife habitat, etc. also are to be implemented, EnvIran..... 1:111 ala.1Ce to ~ pari-passu with construction works. Power Projects Chit Fund Companies • 1578. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND 1579. SHRI C.JANGA REDDY: Will the FORESTS be pleased to state -: Minister ·of FINANCE be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have given (a) State-wise number of firms dealing clearance to Tehri project, Narmada Sagar with chit funds; project and other Hydro-Elecrtic Power projects recently despite objections by (b) whether any guidelines have been environmentalists; issued to different States and Union Territories regarding the working of such (b) if so, what were the considerations in chit fund firms/companies; and giving the clearance; and (c) if so, the details thereof? (c) whether these projects would cause immense damage to the eco-system more THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE particularly to forests ? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI jANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Reserve Bank of India(RBI) has reported MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND that it has no information about the FORESTS (SHRI Z.R.ANSARI): (a) Yes, number of firms conducting Chit Fund Sir. Business. However, the number of Chit Fund Companies in the corporate sector, (b) Both of these are major multi- functioning in different States/Union purpose projects which are expected to Territories as on 31.3.1987 and as available meet the pressing requirements of power in RBI records, is as foJlows:- Name of Sttate/U"ion Territory No. of Chit Fund Companies functioning 1 . 2 389 Andhra Pradesh 391 Kerala 184 t(amataka 18 Pondicherry 497 Tamll~u 54 Gujar. 1 Goa, Daman and Diu 145 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 146 1 2 MadhyaPr...... 8 Maharaahtra 63 Aaaam 8 Bihar 8 West Bengal Chandigarh 2 Deihl 1215 Haryana 15 Himachal Pradesh 7 Jammu and Kaahmir 2 Punjab 35 Uttar Pradeah 40 Total 2957 (b) and (c). With a view to regulating the (a) whether the consumer price index chit fund business and matters has risen by an unprecedented 34 points in connected therewith, Government had the six months from January, 1987 to June, enacted in 1982 the "Chit Fund Act, 1982" 1987; The State Governments/Union Territories' Administrations are required to frame (b) if so, the reasons thereof and the rules in consultation with RBI before the steps proposed to deal with the Act comes into force in that State/Union . inflationary tendencies; Territory. So far, the Act has been extended to 13 States/Union Territories. (c) the rise in consumer price index in RBI is pursuing the question of extending the corresponding period of 1981 to 1986; the Act. to other States/Union Territories' Administrations with .the Governments (d) whether wholesale price index has concerned. also risen unprecedently; and (e) the wholesale price index as on 30 June, 1987 and on the corresponding date .... In Consumer PrIce Index in the last five years? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1580. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDRA JAIN: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: THE MINISTRY. OF FINANCE (SHRI CH.RAM PRAKASH: B.K.GADHVI): (a) and (b). According to SHRI PRAKASH V.PATIL: the latest information available, the Consumer Price Index for Industrial Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Workers (1960 = 100) has shown a rise of to state: 15 points during the five months from 147 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 148 January, 1987 to May, 1987 (latest mopping up of excess liquidity in the available). A number of steps have been system. taken by the Government to keep a check on prices. These include strengthening of the public distribution system, augmenting domestic supply through (c) to (e). The requisite information is imports of sugar, edible oils etc. and given in the Statement below. STATEMENT Consumer Price Index for Wholesale Price Index Industrial Workers (Base: 1970-71 = 100) (Base: 1960 = 100} Period Point rise Per cent Period Index Per cent (January- June) In Index Increase (End-June) (Jan-June) 1987- . 15 2.2 1987 34.6(P) 4.3 1986 28 4.4 1986 374.5 5.1 1985 18 3.1 1985 358.8 6.0 1984 15 2.7 1984 338.0 5.6 1983 36 7.2 1883 310.5 7.5 1982 10 2.2 1982 287.8 2.9 1981 31 7.6 1981 280.7 9.3 • Upto May, 1987 (P) = Provisional (latest available) D..... Persons Benefited under Y8IIous (ii) Aid and appliances to physically Schemes handicapped; 1581. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Will (iii) Assistance to vofuntay organisa- the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to tions working for physicalty han- state the number of desabled persons dicapped; and under various welfare schemes during 1985-86 and 1986-87 State-wise? (iv) Employment through National THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- Employment Service including ISTRY ·OF WELFARE (SHAI GIRIDHAR special employment exchanges GOMANGO): A Statement regarding the and special cells for physically number of disabled persons benefited handicapped. under certain major welfare schemes of Government of India Iisted... belOW for the handicapped during 1985-86 and 1986-87, Besides the above schemes there are a is given below. number of other schemes e.g., self- employment, concessions for travelling. (i) Scholarships to the physicalty training and education, etc., as als~ severa. handicapped; schemes of State Governments. 149 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 .-o :;;1 m.- ~ I I~ I I I' ...... .. ..co co .- N It) ab ...... m...... '0c c CI) "'0 0:0 (I) CD CD 0. ~~~ o 0. E om co c as ... > ta 0 o as =:0-o..cfl) c: C - o..ta «s::.~ IIIS-~ CI) It) o It) "'0 . a. N < ·0 ~ It) o co ~ o N C") g o v It) ..... 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(a) whether his Ministry have issued certian norms to be followed with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE respect to minimum educational qualifi- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- cations, experience, age, sca~e of pay HANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). ,Bank of India and mode of selection for various spe- has reported that in accordance with its cialist posts in banks; and existing Promotion Policy, which came into force with effect from 1-1-1984, 6()O/0 of (b) whether there is any specialist post its promotions from Junior Management for which the above norms are not made Grade Scale-I to Middle Management applicable; and Grade Scale-II and 50010 from Middle Man- agement Grade Scale-II to Middle Man- (c) if so, the reasons therefor? agement Grade Scale-IUare based on the method of uSeniority-cum-Fitness" and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prescribed reservations for SCs and STs MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- have also been made applicable to these HANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). On the basis promotions with effect from tllat date. of recommendations of a Committee of Chairmen of Banking Service Recruitment Air Pollution Banks' Association, Government have Banks' Association, Goverment have 1584. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: issued certain guidelines/norms to be fol- SHRI MANIK REDDY: lowed by public sector banks for various SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH specialist posts with respect to their mini- MALIK: mum educational qualifications, expe- SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: rience, age, scale of pay and mode of SHRI M.RAGHUMA REDDY: selection. However, for certain odd catego- ries of posts required by some of the banks Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT under special circumstances, and for AND FORESTS be pleased to state: which no uniformity of approach was pos- sible, the Committee did not recommend (a) whether any programme have been eligibility criteria. According to guidelines ~ chalked out to set up more centres for norms were issued for such posts. Earth Sciences to assess air pollution dur- ing'the next three years by the Government; Reservations In Promotions In Bank of India (b) if so, names of the places elected for the purpose; and 1583. DR. VENKATESH: Will the Mini- ster of FINANCE be pleased to state: ' (c) the funds allocated? (a) whether it is 8 fact that the promo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions in officers grade up to scale II and MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND scale II to III are based on seniority subject FORESTS (SHRI Z.R.ANSARI):(a) No, Sir. to fifness in Bank of India; (b) and (c).Do not arise. (b) whether Government orders requir- ing reservation for SC/ST in services have Diversion of Forests Land been implemented by Bank of India in said promotions; and 1585.0r. K.G.ADIYODI: Will the Minister 157 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 158 of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be STATEMENT pleased to state: SI. State/Union Territory Area in (a) the area of forest diverted for non- No. Hectares forestry purposes during the Sixth Five Year Plan, State-wi~~; and 1. Andhra Pradesh 711.878 2. Assam (b) the steps taken to increase the pro- 534.250 ductivity of timbers of forests, State-wise? 3. Bihar 664.273 4. Gujarat 1670.120 5. Haryana 1.200 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6. Himachal Pradesh 197.306 MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z.R.ANSARI): (a) A 7. Jammu and Kashmir Statement showing the forest area diverted 8. Karnataka 698.910 for non-forest purpose under Forest(Con- 9. Kerata 511.596 servation) Act, 1980 during Sixth Five 10. Madhya Pradesh 8350.710. Year Plan period is given below. 11. Maharashtra 3861.050 (b) the following major steps have been 12. Manipur 0.340 taken to increase productivity of timbers in 13. Meghalaya 169.120 the country: 14. Nagaland 15. Orissa 5874.156 (i) I ntensive afforestation pro- gramme to improve the density 16. Punjab 2.650 and genetic quality of the grow- 17. Rajasthan 3128.090 ing stock of the forests. 18. Sikkim 249.050 19. Tamil Nadu 528.580 (ii) Rigorous implementation of 20. Tripura 44.492 Working Plan prescriptions to 21. 704.760 control over-exploitation of Uttar Pradesh . forests and to promote 22. West Bengal 103.410 regeneration. 23. Arunachal Pradesh 378.980 24. (iii) Growing of grasses & fodder Andaman and 196.900 trees along with forest tree crops Nicobar Islands to increase biomass production. 25. Chandigarh (iv) Maximising the utility of forest 26. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 140.340 produce through improved log- ging techniques and scientific 27. Delhi utilisation of the timber and other 28. Goa, Daman and Diu 66.017 forest products. 29. Mizoram (v) A modern Forest Fire Control project is being implemented in 30. Pondichery Uttar Pradesh & Maharashtra to develop fire protection tech- 31. Lakshadweep niques to be applied to the forests all over the country in due Total 28788.178 course. 159 Written AnswOlS AUGUST 6, 1987 Written AnSM(8fS 160 Minister of WELFARE be ple.sed to state: 1586. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: (a) the rwnes of the dt8tricta In Andhra Will the ~iniSter of PLANNING be pleased Pradesh having targeat tribal popuIation;- to state: whether the h_ds of Central and (b) the .n,oont rele_ad by Union State Evaluation Programmes Committees Government to Andhra ~ during the have recommend~ tor setting up of a I.t three y..... to implement various stmlding committee at the central level to schemes for the u~iftment of the trtbats . decide about plan programmes and under the 20 Point Programme and schemes to be taken up for evaluation; particularly poverty allevia~ion programme; (b) if sOJ the reaction of Union Govern- ment in thes regard: and (c) whether some requests have been (c) by when the proposed standing com- received from the State Go\wnment for mittee will be set up ? more funds, if so, the ·details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the time by which necessary funds MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- will be made available to the State· TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Government for the purpose? ~ROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes,Sir. The Heads of the Central and State Evaluation THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Organisations have recommended for the MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRI- constitution of a standing committee at the DHAR GOMANGO): (8) Khammam Dis- Central level, to select topics for evaluation trict has the largest tribal population of studies to be undertaken by the PEO .. 4,29,959. (b) The recommendations made by the (b) Releases for poverty alleviation Conference are under submission to the programmes such as Integrated Rural Planning Commission. Development Programme are not made for. Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes se- (c) The decision regarding the setting up parately. However, the following amounts the proposed committee would be taken Of have been released as Special Central after the Planning Commission has exam- Assistance, for Girts' Hostels and· for ined the recommendations made by the Implementation of the programmes for Conference. I8habilitation of Podu cuHivators by the FtII* to Andhra Pi...... for Tribal Ministry- of werfare ~o Andhra Pradesh in o... lapnIMt the last three years. Special Central Assistance is intended to be used mainly in 1587. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the poverty alleviation programmes:- lRS. in /akhS) ----:------'------1984-85 19~86 1986-87 Special Centra. Assistance 589.40 740.00 850.38 Rehabilitation of Podu cultivators 192.00 75.00 l00.op Girts' Hostels 10.00 71.61 30.00 161 Written Answers SRAVANA 15.1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 (c) The State Government has made the fare for more funds in 1987-88.- following requests to the Mini~try of Wel- 1. ITDA Rs. 1100.00 Lakhs 2. MADA I. Rs. 250.00 Lakhs 3. PTG As.' 200.00 Lakhs 4. Rehabilitation of Podu cultivators Rs. 144.00 Lakhs 5 Girls' Hostels Rs. 146.29 Lakhs 6. Gr:lin Gola.s Rs. 519.096 Lakhs (over 5 years) 7. Margin Money Rs. 155.45 Lakhs (d) Under Special Central Assistance following tentative allocations to the the Ministry of Welfare has made the Government of Andhra Pradesh; (Rs. in lakhs) 1. Integrated Tribal Development Projects. 533.90 2. Tribals outside the specified areas (i.e. outside the ITOPs and MADA pockets) 103.69 3. Pockets of tribal concentration (MAOA) 137.06 4. Primitive Trives 59.91 Total 834.56 ------ Under Article 275(1) of the Constitution. (a) whether the deteriorating environ- an amount of As. 118.33 'Iakhs has been ment conditions are posing a grave danger sanctioned in the year 1987-8810 Andhra to the existence of coastal cities like Pradesh. which may be utilised for the Calcutta. Madras, Bombay etc. which are scheme for rehabilitation of Podu cultiva- likely to be submerged below the sea 'evel tors. The scheme of Grain Golas is not yet by the turn of the century; sanctioned. In respect of Girls' Hostels, detailed proposals are awaited from the (b) if so, whether any action plan has State Government. Margin money forms been contemplated to avert this danger; part of· the Special Central Assistance released to the State Government. (c) if so. the details thereof, and (Translation] (d) if not, the reasons therefor? SubmergIng Me~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 1588. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- FORESTS (6HRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a> PATHI: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- Studies indicate increased levels of Car- MENT AND FORESTS·bepleasedtostate: bon dioxide (C~), Chlorofluro carbons 163 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1981 Written Answers 164 (CFC) , Methane (CI-\), Nitrous oxide Nuclear Power Plant' incorporating, the ("120) and other trace gaaee in the lessons learnt from the Chemobyl acci- troposphere. Model studip indicate the dent and experience gained since publica- possibility of increase in gtobal tempera- tion of "Codes of Practice". Five -Codes of ture, other climatic changes and sea level Practice' for nuclear Power Plants dealing rise in future. The scientific understanding with siting, design, quality assurance, in this respect, however, is in a formathie operation and Governmental organisation stage. are in the process of revision. IAEA has also finalised two guidelines titled IIGuide- (b) to (d). Air Pollution is a global lineS for Mutual ·Emergency Assistance phenomenon and India interacts through ~rrangements in connection with a Nu- the United Nations Environment Program- clear Accident or Radiological Emergency", me to contain it,. at the global level. India and UGuidelines on Reportable Events has taken several measures to check air Integrated Planning and Information' ex- pollution within India. Measures taken change in a Transboundary Release of include implementation of Air (Prevention Radioactive Materials" and Control of Pollution) Act, 1981 and Environment (Protection) Act, 1986,. set- (c) India proposes to apply safety ting up of standards for emissions from measures as appropriate to. our nuclear industries and automobiles, Environment power plants. Impact Assessments for clearing projects and an air quality monitoring network. Proposal to IncreMe Scholarship to [English] SCs/STs New Guidelines by IAEA 1590. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: WiI! the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: 1589: SHAI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: Will the PRIME MINISTER be (a) whether there is any' proposal to pleased to state: increase the amount of scholarship for Scheduled Castes, Scheduled TribeS and (a) whether' the International Atomic Backward Classes; Energy Agency has formulated new guidelines for safety in nuclear reactors (b) if so, the details thereof; and following the Chernobyl disaster; (c) if not. the reasons therefor? (b) the details of the new guidelines: and (c) whether Government propose to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THF apply those safety measures in our nuclear MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRI- power plants? DHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). A high Level Official Committee was set up to consider . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the question of enhancement of scholar- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- ship amount, raising the income limit etc., LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE under the Centrally Sponsored Scheme of DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- Post Matric Scholarships for Scheduled MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY. ELECTRO- Castes and Scheduled Tribes. The Com- NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARA- mittee has since submitted its report which YANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. is under examination. The rates -of scholarship under other Centrally Spon- (b) The International Atomic Energy sored Scheme of Pre-Matric Scholarships Agency (IAEA)· has formulated a new ·for the children of those engaged in document titled -Safety Principles for lR:lean occupations have already been .1 ES Written Answel"$ SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 increased w.e.f. May, 1986. The Govern- examination fees, award of scholarships in ment of India do not have any scheme ·of high schools, Post sse scholarships. scholarships for Other Backward Classes. stipends in LT.ls. providing Ashram Schools and facilities in Government and [Translation]. l. aided hostels, balwadis, supply of free uniforms. book bank in primary and high EducatIonal FIICIIIttea to MaM Tribe In schools, opening of resi~entia' public MIl...... school at Kelapur in Yeotmal district, etc. 1591. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will Recovery of Smuggled ~ In the Minister of WELFARE be pleased to Metropolitan ctties state: 1592. SHAt KALt PRASAD PANDEY: (a) whether before 1980 Mana Tribe of Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Chandrapur, Bhandara and Gadcheraoli state: districts in Maharashtra was included in the list of recognised Scheduled Tribes (a) the details regarding smuggled and Educational facilities were also avail- goods recovered on a large scale in Delhi, able to them; Madras, Bombay and Calcutta since January, 1987; (b) whether educational facilities availa- bie to the aforesaid Mana Tribe were (b) the number of persons apprehended withdrawn after ·1980; in this connection and details of goods recovered; (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and . (c) the nur:nber 6f persons against whom (d) the $teps being taken by Govern- cases have been registered indicating the ment for educational development of this number of pending cases; and tribe? (d) the effective steps taken by Govern- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment to check the smuggling activities? MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIR'- DHAR GOMAN~Q): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE. IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI): (a) and (b). The total value of (c) Does not arise. contraband goods seized and the number of persons arrested in connection with (d) ~e steps undertaken for the smuggling activities in Delhi, Bombay, educational development of Mana Tribe Calcutta and Madfas during the period include special maintenance allowance in January to June, 1987 is furnished Sainik Schoo's, grants for tuition an below:- Name of the City Value of goods seized Number of persons (As. in crores) arrested. Bombay 34.75 448 Calcutta 7.27 52 Madras 4.69 133 Delhi 8.51 67 Major items seized are: Gold~ Wact:les. Synthetic fabrics and Yarn etc. 167 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 . Written Answers 168 ... Major items seized are: Gold, Watches, [English] Synthetic fabrics and Yarn etc. Circulation of five paise coins (c) The information is being collected and will be laid on the Tabl~ of the House. 1594. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (d) The anti-smuggling drive throughout th~ country has been intensified. The anti- (a) whether five paise coin has lost its smuggling machinery throughout the value in circulation: country particularly in vulnerable areas of sea coast, land border regions and airports (b) whether it has come to the notice of remain alert to check and detect smug- the Government that in buses, banks, and gling into the country. Sophisticated anti- business places five paise coins are not in smuggling equipments such as metal use; and detectors. X-ray machines, Close Circuit T. Vs are utilised for prevention and (c) whether Government propose to detection of gold concealed on person of stop the circulation of five paise coins? passengers and their baggage/in-cargo. Close co-ordination is maintained with all THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the concerned agencies in the prevention MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- and detection of smuggling into the DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). Although country. the" five paise coin has lost much of its value, measured in terms of its purchasing power and its use has diminished, Industrial Pollution particularly in Metropolitan areas, there is still a steady demand for these coins 1593. SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Will the particularly in the rural areas and among Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- traders and vendors. It is, therefore, not ESTS be pleased to state: proposed to stop its circulation. (a) whether complaints were received Credit deposit ratio from different States against the industrial units for causing environmental pollution; 1595. SHRIMATI GEETA.MUKHERJEE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) if so, the number of complaints on state the credit deposit ratio in Maharash- which no action has so far been taken; and tra, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal? (c) the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHFU JANAR- DHANA POOJARY): According to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE information available from Reserve Bank "MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND of India the credit:" deposit ratio of all FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, Scheduled Commercial "Banks, as at. the Sir. end of December 1986, was 81.0 per cent in Maharashtra, 85.7 per cent in Karnataka, (b) On receipt of each such complaint it 93.5 per cent in Tamil Nadu and 50.3 per is taken up with concerned State Govern- cent in West Bengal. ments, State Boards for Pollution Control and the Central Board for Pollution Rise In Rate of Inflation Control for remedial action. 1596. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Will the (c) Does not arise. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 169 Written Answers SR~VANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 170 (a) whether the inflation rate has been established. technology does not exist going up recently; within the country· and the time taken to generate technology indigenously would (b) the rise in rate of inflation in the first delay the achievements of the few weeks of 1987-88; development targets. \' (c) whether this is more than what it was The principles governing the acquisition on 1986-87; and of technology also specify that there shall be a firm commitment for absorption, (d) the main reasons for such steep rise adaptation and subsequent development in the rate of inflation? of imported knowhow through adequate investments and Research & Development THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to which importers of technology will be DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN expected to contribute. THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI): (a) to (c). The rate of inflation in terms of W.P.I. during the 16 weeks of the Foreign Exchange Sanctioned under current financial year ending 18th July, Foreign Travel Scheme 1987 (latest available) was 5.5 per cent-as against 5.1 per cent in the corresponding period of 198~87. 1598. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (d) The pressure on prices at this time of state: the year has been mainly caused by seasonal factors, and has been aggravated (a) whether under Foreign Travel Sche- by the weak monsoon. The position is me both currency and travellers cheques being kept under careful watch. are made available to a traveller going abroad; Permission to Indian companies for purchase of technology from abroad (b) ;f so, the reasons therefor; and 1597. SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: Will the (c) whether Government propose to PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: amend the system and provide entire foreign exchange in currency? (a) whether Government have been considering to grant permission to Indian Companies to purchase technology from THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND companies abroad; and MINISTER OF COMMERCE (SHRI NARA- YAN DATT TIWARI): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, Government's decision thereon. indicating the norms and guidelines to be (b) The basic reasons for not releasing adopted by Government in permitting the enti re amount of foreign exchange in such technology imports? the form of currency notes and cOins are:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (i) Unlike travellers cheques, cur- MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- rency notes and coins can be LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE INTHE misused; and DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- MENT; ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- (ii) Availability of limited stocks of NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARAYA- notes and coins with Authorised NAN): (a) and (b). Indian companies can Dea'ers. purchase technology from abroad on a selective . basis where need has been (c) No, Sir. . 171 Written Answers , AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers '172 ...... of SIck UnIts by NaItonIIII8ed Recovery of Bank ..... 8inka 1600. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the 1599. DR. T. KALPANA OEVI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (a) whether nationafised banks are (b) whether the State Bank of India has (b) if so, the total amount of loans been ignoring RBI guidelines; outstanding as on 30 June, 1987; and (c) whether his Ministry has received (c) the steps being taken for timely any complaints of inaction by State Bank recovery? of India in Andhra Pradesh; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the steps being taken to monitor the MiNISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- working of State Bank of tndia in Andhra DHANA' POOJARY): (a) to (c). The Pradesh? nationalised banks. having unsatisfactory recovery of past dues, are not abje to recycle the funds to the desired extent: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAR- With a view to improving recovery CHANA POOJAAY): (a) Sickness in performance. the Reserve Bank of India industrial units may be on account of has issued guidelines to the Banks for various internal as well as external factors. taking effective measures like strengthen- While the banks try to nurse potentially ing of the organisational structure, viable sick units in their portfolio, rehabili..: adopting of schematic appraisal systems, tation of sick units is a combined effort of pqst lending supervision and launching ot all the concerned agencies like banks, recovery drives with the help of State financial institutions. promoters, labour, Governments. Banks have also been Government, etc. advised to create separate 'Recovery Cell' for a cluster of nearby branches for (b) to (d). The Reserve Bank of India continuous and effective supervision. (RBI) has reported that the State Bank of Recovery position has also to be reviewed India (Sal) was generaJly following the periodically by the B~ard of Directors of guidelines of RBI with regard ,to monitor- the Banks. ing of sick units and their rehabilitation. The SSI has also set up an appropriate . According to provisional data (after organisational structure for this purpose. inter-bank accounts) the cumulative advan- n. State Bank of India has also issued ces of pUDlic sector banks amounted to As. 'detailed instructions to its regional offices/ 54606 crores as at the end of March 1987. branches based on the guidelines of RBI. However, as at the end of December 1985 The performance .of different regional overdues stood at As. 7.00 crores officesIbranches of S81 in Andhra Pradesh amounted to 14.8 -per cent of total is being monitored by their local head oUtstanding a~vances. office at Hyclerabad in addition to over-all control over the operations by the Central RIse In AdmInIstered PrIces Office. RBI also carried out periodical inspections of commercial banks. Such 1601. SHRt E.'AYVAPU REDDY: Will the inspections, inter alia, cover the efforts Minister of FINANCE be pleased to' state: made by the banks towards rehabilitation of s;ck units. (a) whether ·the rise in the admil1istered 173 - Written Answers " , SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 174 prices has adversely affected the ways and express the political will of nations to means position' of the public sector combat drug menace. While no specific undertakings: and recommendation pertaining to India was made by the Conference, it adopted a (b) if so, whether it is a fact that the rise in ·Comprehensive Multidisciplinary Outline the administered prices instead of helping of Future Activities in Drug Abuse Control' the growth of production merely results in (CMO), covering the various aspects of increasing the profitability of the middle- drug problem in 35 target areas and men? suggesting recommendations for imple- mentation at national, regional and inter- ' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE national levels. The C.M.O. has been DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN recognised as a compendium of possibili- THE MINISTRY OF F'INANCE (SHRI B. K. ties for future action by aU concerned in GADHVf): (a) The Hon'ble Member is the fight against drug trafficking and drug presumably referring to the prices of items abuse. produced by the public sector under- takings. While prices of some public sector Malfunctioning of Andhra Pradesh lndus- products, such as petroleum, fertilizer, trial Development Corpordon. coal, are administered (these have by and large remained stable dur.ng the last one 1603. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the year or so). the prices of other products Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: and units are determinoo by the concerned units and are revised from time to time to (a) whether his Ministry ha\!e received bring them in line with the increase in complaints about the malfunctioning of production costs. The upward revisions in Andhra Pradesh Industrial Development prices, to that extent, improve the ways Corporation on loans, which are being re- and means poSition of the concerneo financed by Central agencies; undertakings. (b) the steps being taken to ractify the (b) No, Sir. functioning of APIOC; PartlclpMlon of India In U.N. Conference "(c) whether a scrutiny is proposed to be on Drug Abuse made of all loans granted by APICC to remove such irregularities; and 1602. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (d) if so, the details there or? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether India participated in the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- delibef"ations of the U.N. Conference on DHANA POOJARY): (a) to (d). Complaints drug abuse and illicit trafficking of drugs had been received by the Government that held recently; and the Andhra Pradesh Industrial Develop- ment Corporation (APIDC) has not dis- (b) if SB, the recommendiations of the bursed the funds properly, during a certain conference pertaining to India and the period. The Industrial Development Bank follow up action taken thereon? of India (1081) who were asked to look into the matter have reported that the procedure THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE followed by APIDC with regarding to MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- sanction and disbursement of loans was DHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). India comparable to the procedure followed in participated in the International Conferen- other State Industrial Development Cor- ce at Vienna from 17th - 26th June, 1987 porations. APIDC is a whofly. owned convened by the ':J.N. General Assembly to company of Government of Andhra 175 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 Written AnswerS 176 Pradesh working under the guidance and [Translation) supervision of its Board of Directors. lOBI has also been undertaking performance Pending Estate Duty C.es evaluation studies of the Corporation to ider:-tify areas for improvement of the 1605. SHRI OAL CHANCER JAIN: Will operations of the Corporation. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased. to state: SC/ST Candidates who Passed Clerk (a) the number of Estate Duty control: Grade Examination In 1982 lers at present and the number of Estate Duty cases pending with .them; 1604. SHRt RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: wm the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to (b) whether Government propose to state: tr~nsfer officers concerned with these cases as the Estate Duty has been (a) the number of Scheduled Caste abolished; candidates who pased Clerk Grade Exa- mination in 1982: (c) whe'her interest is paid on refund of Estate Duty; (b) the number of Scheduled Caste candidates out of them apPointed In (d) if not. the reasons therefor; various Government offices; (e) whether Government propose to pay (c) the number of Scheduled Caste interest on· refunds of Estate Duty; and candidates who could not be appointed in any Government office: (f) if so, the details thereof? (d) the reasons for which Scheduled Caste candidates who passed the exami- nations could not be appointed; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN (e) the steps taken so far or proposed to THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. be taken to absorb such candidates in GADHVI): (a) The number of Controllers Government offices? of Estate Duty are at present 34. The number of Estate Duty caSes pending with them are 8798. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC (b) The Government has transferred and GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI also proposes to transfer officers concern- eiREN SINGH ENGTI): (a) The number of ed with the Estate Duty cases for the Scheduled Caste candidates who passed implementation of the other direct tax laws Clerk Grade Exa"'1ination in 1982 was as and when such officers do not have 1243. enough work with them. (b) to (e). All the 1243 Scheduled Caste candidates were nominated to the requisi- (c) Under the Estate Duty Act pursuant tioning Departments by the Staff Selection to reduction in the principal value of an Commissfon. The candidates are appoin- estate by a High Co~rt order. refund ted to posts by various appointing alongwith interest is being paid to the authorities. ·There is no·centralised moni- accountable person. toring of i~format; •.Jn relating to such appointees. (d) to (f). Do not arise.. 177 ,Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnsW'tH'S 178 (EngliSh) these chllchn went adopted? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRI- 1806. DR. ptfULRENU GUHA: Will the DHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Acc0rd- Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: ing to the information recetved from variol8 courts in India, childlwl taken to (a) the number of orphans adopted by different countries by fontign nationals for foreigners during 1985 to 1986; and adoption under the orders of the campa- ,tent court during 1985 and 1986, are as (b) the names of those countries where foUows:- - 81. Name of the No. of children No. Country 1115 Tot8I 1 2 3 4 5 1. Auatrall. 3 14 17 1 2 3 3. Belgium 17 75 172 4. CeMda 3 5 8 5. Denmark 40 89 8. France 128 • 218 7. HoIIMd 17 101 203 a. Ireland 1 1 I. Italy 84 18 182 10. Kenya 1 1 11. Luxembowg 3 1 4 12. Holway 28 31 87 13. Oman 1 1 14. &pain 1 1 15...... 128 ,. 251 11. ~ 85 51 123 17. Tanzania 1 1 2 11. U.A.E. 2 1 3 11. U.K. 2 2 20. U.S.A. 50 179 229 179 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Ans·W81S _180 . 1 2 3 4 5 21. Weet Germany 18 42 11 .22- Zimbabwe 1 1 23. Finland 1 1 24. New Zealand 1 1 TOTAL: 758 882 1141 Martne Park Union Territory of Lakshadweep, is em- powered to establish the same. 1607. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Removal of Income-tax 0ffIcera for ESTS be pleased to state: negligence of duty (a) whether the Central marine Fisheries 1608. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will Research Institute has reCommended the Minister of FINANCE be pleased tb some areas in Lakshadweep· to be state: declared as marine parks for conservation of ecosYstem; (a) the number of Income-tax Officersl Assistant Commissioners/Commissioners (b) if so, the names of the areas; in the Income-tax Department, who have been (i) suspended (ii) dismissed (iii) (c) the details of the recommendations; superannuated compulsorily (iv) volun- and tarily retired, during the years 1985, 1986 and 1987 (upto July, 1987) for neglect of (d) the reaction of the Government duty, bad antecedents and for possessing thereto? disproportionate assets; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether action was taken against MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND them after due inquiry? FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) to (c). The Central Marine Fisheries Research Institute has recommended that the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Lakshadweep Islands of Suheli Veliya- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN karan, Bangaram. Thinnikara, Parali, THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. R. Chetlat and part of the Minicoy Island be GADHVI_): (a) A Statement regarding (i) to declared as protected areas to conserve (iv) is given below. However, voluntary marine fauna and flora and for coastal retirements are not ordered by the zone management. Government but- sought by officers for their own personal. reasons. (d) Establishment o~ this marine natiOnal pat1< is desirable. Administration of the (b) Yes, Sir. 181 WdtttJn Answers SRAVANA 15, 01909 (SAKA) Writt9n Answers 182 STATEMENT 1985 1986 1987 (Upto July) (i) Officers BUBPf'nded Commissioners of 1 Income-tax 1 Asstt. Commissioners 3 of Income-tax 6 1 Income-tax Officers 15 (Ii) Officers dismissed Commissioner of Income-tax 2 Asstt. Commissioners of Income-tax o 2 Income-tax Officers 2 (iii) Commissioners of ,ncome-tax Asstt. Commissioner of Income-tax Income-tax Officers 2 1 (b) Officers retired "re-matur9Iy under F.R. 56-j: 1 CommissiQner of lneomc-tax 4 4 1 Asstt. Commissioners of Income-tax 4 Income-tax Officers 5 19 (iv) Officers voluntarily retired (cases of F. R. 56-k: 4 Commissioners of Income-tax 13 1 Asstt. Commissioners of 3 4 3 Income-tax o. Incomelo.tax Officers 12 21 10 ActIon against Speculators and PrIce (a) whether Government 15 taking Mllnlpulaton on the Stock lIIHkets stringent action against speculators and 1~. SHRI SR.HARt RAo: Will the price manipulators of securities on the Ministe.r of FINANCE ~ pleased to state: stock markets: 183 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 (b) whether GQvanment haWt instituted ANAN: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- special surveillance squads in all stock MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: exchanges in this regard; and (8) how ·the social forestry scheme is (c) if so, the details the,.,f? being implemented by the State Govern- ments; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN (b) the Stat_ that had made a good THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. progress in this sch,eme. GADHVI): (a) to (c). Government have recently directed the Stock Exchanges to set up urgently 8 Market Surveillance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE -Division headed by a Get .... MaMgef' MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND and supported by a .., of officers for FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): State State/UT Physical PhysiQI UT . Target Achievement Code Upto 31 Mar 87 1 2 3 4 1. Anethr. PtacleMt 150.00 143.71 2. Aaem 20.00 31.28 3. BIh. 130.00 135.55 . 4. GujanIt 81.55 113.55 185 SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 186 1 2 3 4 5. Haryana 36.25 37.08 6. Himachal Pradesh 31.25 33.58 7. Jammu &" Kashmir 26.10 28.53 8. Karnataka 125.00 115.84 9. Kerala 60.00 75.96 10. Madhya Pradesh 185.00 196.00 11. Maharashtra 120.00 119.09 12. Manlpur 8.00 7.44 13. Meghalaya 7.50 7.90 14. Nagai and 17.50 27.18 15. Orissa 120.00 116.34 16. Punjab 27.50 28.38 17. Rajasthan 55.00 67.05 18. Sikkim 5.50 5.75 19. Tamil Nadu 120.00 99.06 20. Tripura 16.00 13.15 21. Uttar Pradesh 225.00 243.25 22. West Bengal 70.00 70.80 23. A & N Islands 6.00 8.12 24. Arunachal Pradesh 6.25 6.25 25. Chandigarh 0.17 0.19 26. D a. N Haveli 2.50 1.78 27. Delhi 1.50 3.15 28. Goa, Daman & Diul 3.75 3.40 29. t..kshadweep 0.01 0.01 30. Mizoram 56.40 23.80 31. Pondlcherry 0.50 0.86 G. TOTAL 1.714.23 1,761.87 187 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 WrIft8n AnsWers' 188 Reaearch to Imptow Structu.... o.Ig.. have developed multi-Speed gears for of Bullock c.rts Md BIcycI_ cyctes that help to enhance the normal speed of bicycles. 1611. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: . Courteous TntIdment to Income Tax (8) whether any worthwhile research Ass...... haS been done to improve the structural designs, etc. of bullock carts and bicycles; 1612. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the . and Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof? (a) the details of instructions issued to Income Tax Officials to treat assessees THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE courteously; and MI~ISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the steps taken to see that assessees DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- do not feel harassed? MENT, ATOM1C ENERGY, ELECTRO- NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARAYA- NAN): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Several THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE organisations have conducted research to DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN improve the mechanical features of exist- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. ing bullock carts. GADHVI): (a) and (b). The officers of the Income-tax Department are constantly Among others:-The Central Road being asked to be courteous and exercise Research Institute (CRRI), New Delhi has restraint in course of their duties. This is, improved the performance of the bullock time and again. stressed at various cart by incorporating a flexible element in meetings including All-India Conference the hub; The Indian Institute of Manage- of Commissioners of Income-tax. The ment, Bangalore has evolved three models Commissioners of Income-tax have been of bullock carts to suit the specific qualities asked to consider public grievances and of local animals and climatic and surface respond to them not as a routine chore, conditions: The School of Applied Re- instead they should feel .~uty bound to search, Sangli has developed improved provide meaningful redress after giving a bullock carts using large diameter wheels, sympathetic consideration to the tension spokes, two sub-shafts and hand- grievance pointed out. The Prime operated shoe-type brakes; The Central Minister's directive to change the attitude, in general, of the bureaucracy particularly at lower level was conveyed in details vide Institute of Agricultural Engineerin'g, Circular dated 23.5.1985. Bhopal have developed carts using self lubricattng system, proper bal~ncing and Grievance Cells have been set up in improved braking systems; besides a few each Commissioner's charge for redressal private concerns have also designed of the taxpayers' grievances including improved bullock carts with pneumatic' harassment. A Grievance Cell is also tyres, aluminium f~ame etc. functioning in Central Board of Direct Taxes under the direct supervision of the Chairman. A preventive vigilance machi- Efforts to improve bicycle designs have nery is functioning at the level of Assistant been taken up by a few organisations. For Commissionerllncome-tax Officer in each example, the Central Mechanical Engi- Commissioner's charge since 1986 pr,-' I'I4!8ring Research Institute, Durgapur and marily. to keep an eye on the erring the Aeg~a'. Research Laboratory, Jorhat officials. '189 Written An$wars SRAVANA.15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 WOttct Bank Lo8n for ,..,..._. State THE MINISTER OF· STATE IN THE Tnllasport SeMcea MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO- LOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1613. SHRt SHANTI DHARtWAL: Will DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOP- the Minister \01 FINANCE be pleased to MENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRO- state: NICS AND SPACE (SHRI K. R. NARA- YANAN): (a) to (c). Government have no (a) the amount sanctioned to Rajasthan proposal to set up an electronic unit out of the World Bank Loan for the exclusively for the blind. However, if any devetopment of State Transport Services proposal is' received, it will be considered in the country; on merits. (b) whether the amount so given to Rajasthan is sufficient to meet the ExcIM Evasion by Major CIgandIa Cam- p ...... requirements of the. State Transport Services; 1615. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD: (c) whether Rajasthan Government have Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: approached the Union Government to seek more funds from the World Bank for this purpose; and (8) the modus operandi adopted by various major Cigarette companies to Cd) if so, the details of action taken evade excise duty during the last one year: . and thereon and the time by which necessary fund will be released? (b) the amount involved in the evasion of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE excise duty and the steps taken for DEPAR'TMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN expeditious settlement of the eases? THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. GADHVI): (a) No general purpose loan for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE· the development of State Transport MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt JANAR- SerVices in the country, has been sought DHANA POOJARY): (a) In respect of the from the World Bank. The question of major cigarette companies to whom show sanctioning an amount to Rajasthan from cause notices have been issued from July. the loan does not, therefore, arise. 1986 till June, 1987, the modus operandi adoted by these cigarette companies to (b) to (d). Do not arise. evade central excise duty are under- valuation and misuse of exemption n0tifi- cations. Electronic Units for BInds (b) In the show cause notices issued to 1614. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will Cigarette companies during the period the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: July, 1986 till June, 1987, the amount of central excise duty involved is Rs. 1027.98 T_.. TIIbe In Sc:tIedOIed TItbe u.t (8) which of the recommendations of the Committee to review the worki"g of the 1616. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- monetary system have since been imple- SHAR: WII the Minister of WELFARE be mented; pIeaed to refer to the ans... given to the Un~ Question No. 4178 dated (b) the impad of the ~mendations 25.3.87 regarding Tamang Tribe in Sche- on the system: and duled Tribe list and state: (c) the likely date by which the other (al whether Government have taken any major recommendations would also be final decision on the demand of the implemented alongwith the nature and NTamangs" of West Bengal, Sikkim and content of these recommendations? Assam for indusion in the list of Scheduled Tribes; THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND (b) if so, the exact decision in this regard MINISTER OF COMMERCE (SHRI NARA- and whether the comments from the YAN DATI TIWARI): (a) to (c). The major concerned State Governments had also recommendations of the Chakravarty been received before the decision was Committee which have been implemented taken; and are given in the Statement below. It is not feasible to precisely segregate the impact Ce) if not, the reasons for delay and exact of these measures on the economic recommendations/comments received system. Government keep in view the from the State Governments in this regard recommendations made by various as also the likely date by which the decision committees from time to time while would be taken? formulating poticies, depending upon the emerging economic situation in the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE country. MINISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRI- DHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). No final decision regarding inclusion of Tamangs STATEMENT in the list of Scheduled Tribes in Sikkim, West Bengal and Assam has yet been Some of the major recommendations of the taken as amendment in the existing list of Chakravarty Committee which have been Scheduled Tribes can be done oNy inlplemented include the following: through an Act of Parliament in view of Article 342 (2) of the Constitution. (a) In pursuance of the recommendation in regard to the concept of budgetary deficit, this year's Central Government Budget has The comments received from the State shown, as a memorandum item, the full Governments of Sikkim, West Bengal and extent of Government reliance on Reserve Assam cannot be disclosed in the public Bank Credit. interest. No time limH can be specified at this stage as u.e matter is linked. up with the (b) The recommendation in respect of comprehensive revision of the lists of setting up of monetary targets has been Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. accepted. in prinCiple, and an internal excercise on an experimental basis has been undertaken to determine its feasibility. CammIII.1 to ...... WOItdItg of ...... (c) Yield on long-term Government ..,., ..... Securities have gradually been raised, and the maximum maturity period brought ,down 1617. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- to 15 years in the current year. SHAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (d) With a view to enlarging the scope 'Of the pfeased to state: money market a number of steps have been 193 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1a09 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 taken by. the Reserve Bank of India. These nationalised banks is not available. It is, include: therefore, not. possible to make any comparative assessment of the cost of (i) lowering of the bill discount rate, transaction per Savings Bank Account in nationalised banks and Fost Offices. (ii) raising of the re-discount rate, and Inflation In Meerut and Bhopal (iii) setting up of a Finance House. 1619. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Will the (e) In order to develop a monetary Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: instrument with flexible interest rates which would enable llanks and other financial (a) whether Meerut recorded highest institutions to better manage their short-term rate of inflation of 13.40/0 and Bhopal the liquidity, a new financial instrument, that is, lowest 3% for the year ending April, 1987 182-days Treasury Bills have been introduced as reported in Economic Times dated from November 1986. 19:6.87; and (b) if so, the reasons for this difference . Cost of a Single Savings Bank Account Transaction and corrective measures taken in this regard? 1618. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA- SHAR: WiU the Minister of FINANCE be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. (a) the aVE!!rage cost of a single Savings GADHVI): (a) Yes, Sir. Bank Account transaction in the national- ised ban.ks and how does it compare with (b) The higher rate of inflation in Meerut the cost per transaction in the Savings compared to Bhopal as reflected by the Bank as operated by the Post Offices; CPI for Urban Non-Manual Emptoyees (Base 1960::100) between April 1986 and (b) the actual amount paid to the Postal April 1987 is due to the fact that whereas Department per transaction for this the indices for both the centres moved in purpose in the Savings Bank transaction; harmony between April-November, 1986, and there was divergent movement in the subsequent months upto April, 1987 - the (c) the reasons for this difference? index for Bhopal declined and that for Meerut went up. Such divergence in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE movement of the indices ot various centres MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI during short periods is quite normal and is JANARDHANA POOJARY): (8) to (c). caused by Idcal demand and supply Operation of Savings Bank Accounts by factors. It is thus not an indicator of Jhe Post Offices is performed by ·the overali costliness of the centre. In fact, the Department of Posts as an agency . CPI for Meerut at 619 for April 1987 is lower function and expenditure incurred in such than 647 for Bhopal . . transactions is' ~ reimbursed by the Government at the rates flxed by;t. For the The Government has taken a number of year 1985-86, the rate 9f ~~imburstJllent measures' to keep the prices under cbeck. per Savings Ban1< ·tra~oo ~~.IepOIted .. These include 5tmngthening of the _'ublic 'by the Department of Post fS As. 3.96. distribution system to ensure adequate supply of essential commodities aM Detailed data in respect-.of operations 01 action against black-marketeers, various categories of deposit accounts jn hoarders, etc. 195 Written AnswetS AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 196 funds for the above purpose; Jc) whether the Government of Kerala 1620. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- has requested the Union Government to CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of allocate more funds for social forestry, and ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pI~ to state: (d) if so, details thereof? - '. (as: the allocation made to the State of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Kerela for Social Forestry scheme during . MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 1985-86 and 1986-87; FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) The details of allocations made to Kerala under (b) whether any· complaint have been the Centrally Sponsored Social Forestry received regarding the non-utilisation of Schemes are as under:- 197 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 ., .&:.- ~ .!! ,.._ .5 CD 8 ~ ~ i g8 8g --.... a I a I 8 > .2 ;( s 8 8 ~ i eli ~ .- II) --... ~ ('I) J • eE t! c:a ae •E E Jc ! ! c:a o •:::I D: (!J c -c -• •E E >. o~ o Q. a. E wE w ." ! I :::I ~ a: c "iii c: !J ;::o Z• _ 0 UlZ 199 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 200· (b) No, Sir. However, the State (b) whether the whole amount has been Government of Kerala has not made full released by Government; and use of the allocated Central assistance. (c) .if not, when the balance amount will (c) and (d). In view of above question be released? does not arise. Amount Paid to States out of National Savings THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF. FINANCE (SHRI 1622. SHRI MATILAL HANSDA: Will the JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Loans due to State Government in 1986-87 against net collections in Post Office (a) total amount paid during 1986-8~ out Savings Scheme nave been released. of national savings to the States, State- State-wise details are given in the wise; Statement below. STATEMENT (Rs. in lekhs) 81. Name of State Amount No. 1 2 3 1. Anethre Pradesh 13200 2. Assam 5300 3. Blher 22444 4. Gularat 27319 5. Haryene 7500 6. Himachal Pradesh 3005 7. Jammu & Kashmir 2152 8. Karnataka 17071 9. Kerala 5832 10. Madhya Pradesh 9587 11. Maharashtra 57200 12. Manipur 96 13. Megha'aya 353 14. Nagaland 88 15. Or'_ 4419 18. Punjab 13855 17. Raj_than 9540 201 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 202 1 2 3 18. Slkktm 8 19. Tamil Na~u 12100 20. Trlpura 400 21. Uttar Pradesh 33398 22. West Bengal 35055 TOTAL: 280000 Atomic Power Plants in the Country Rawatbhata (2x 235 MWe) as expansion and Kaiga (2x 235 MWe). 1623. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (c) and (d). The Site Selection Committee of the Department of Atomic (a) the number of atomic power plants Energy has examined various sites. functioning in the country at present and including those recommended by various their locations; , State' Governments. The report of this Committee is under consideration of the (b) whether any atomic power plant is Government. Government proposes to set under construction if so, the details up more atomic power stations at new sites thereof; to be selected or as expansion at existing sites. (c) whether there is demand to establish more atomic power plants in the country, if so, the names of States which have requested for establishment of atomic Growth Rate of Farm and Indusbtal Output power plants in their State; and and Population Growth (d) the Government policy in regard to 1624. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the establishment of more such plants in the Minister of PLANNING b~ pleased tq state country? the rate of growth of farm output. and industr~J output; growth rate of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE population during the last three_ years in MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND the country. State-wise and year-wise? TECHNOlOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ENERGY, ELECTRONICS A'NO SPACE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN): (a) At present TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF there are three Atomic Power Stations PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION located at Tarapur. (Maharashtra), (SHAI SUKH RAM): Growth rates in farm Rawatbhata, (Rajasthan) and Kalpakkam output (based on index of average (Tamil Nadu), which are in operation. agricultura' production), industrial output (based on index of industrial production) (b), Four Atomic Power Stations are and population (based on Sample under construction at Narora (2x 235 Registration System) for the country as a MWe), Kakrapar (2x 235 MWe) and whole .are shown below: 203 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 204 Y_r Farm Output Industrial Population Output 1.,.... 13.7 8.7 2.18 1.415 -1.2 8.8 2.13 1115-18 2.2 8.7 2.10 Note: Growth,.... of population pertains to 1983. 1984 & 1985 respectively. . Statew;se estimates for industrial output Statement Nos. 1 to 5 and Statewise growth of these years are not available. Statewise rates of population are given in Statement. farm output in respect of foodgrains and No.6 below. ~ther major crops are given in the .; 205 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKAl Written Answers 206 G) II) ~ ,._ CD ~ 0 Ct Ct ~ CD Ct «! an ci .,; aD ..- eli ~ C'5 ~ .,; .; eli d ..- ; ..- ~ ..- ..- . ..- ..- I I I I ..- ..- an ~ CD C") ,._ to ..- II) ..- CD N CD (9j po.: .~ ~ ali aD d N d N cD 9"'" N 9"'" 9"'" 9"'" 9"'" 9"'" ~ .. ~ .!? ;9"'" !! I I I I I I CI) I I I I c: .~ (,) -:;, 'b 0 .t .s.." ..g- e 0 ., ., 0 C) II) 0 ~ ~ ~ II) CD ." CD N c.; .; 9"'" ,..: a2 C") JI ~ .... ~ tt ci..- ci.... ~ ~ .E • ;9"'" ...~ r -, T t - - I c:» - e .~ CD (,) ! ....Q. ~ 0 .." .!? ~ -s at C)e '- E I z: i l! I J .... '15 J ..~ J !! ! w z: ! E J a. I -! ~ IE I- I J I iii CJ ! % ~ I I I I I i .,..; CI) N ft ~ .,; ,..: c:i .,.: N .s ...... 9"'" ... - 207 Written· Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 208· C') ,.._ C\t C\t N CD N G) ~ at) ('I'j .... ~ ~. 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SUOHIR ROY: Will the Minis- prevailing in that country: . ter Of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pI•• eed to .... thestepe taken by G0vern- (c) whether Govemment propose to ment to check Pf;)Ilution in collieries as the make it compulsory to involve a local bank pollutants in the air have exceeded the per- In 0... 111 advances by Indian banks; and ml.1bIe limits? (d) If so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT ~ND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FORESTS: (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): The MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt JANAR- steps being taken to check pollution in col- Dt-:tANA POOJARY): (a) to (d). Information lieries include: is being collected and to the extent availa- ble and permissible under the rules will be (i) provision of dust suppression I.d on the Table of the House. a"..1g8IIW'Its at Coal Handling Plants, Coal Washeries and Coal Loading points; 1827. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: (ii) spraying of water on mine haul Win the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to roads for suppressing dust raised state: during transportation of coal and over-burden : (a) the number of branches of Dena Bank in different States; (iii) raducing and preventing spillage of coal and over-burden on (b) the number of new branches pro- roads, minimising dust during posed to be opened by Dena Bank during transportation by providing 1987-88 financial year; buffer zones and green belts in and around the colliery areas; (c) whether Dena Bank has introduced any new scheme to help the weaker sec- (iv) raising of plantations on Over- tion and rural artisans: and burden dumps; and (d) if so, the detaits thereof? (v) switching ewer to mechanised soft coke making in place of open THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Budta' system. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAt JANAR- DHANA POOJARy): (a) and (b). Dena Bank T...... o •••••• __... has reported that as at the end of March 1987. 1006 branches of their bank were 1826. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN· functioning in diffetent St.. and Union RA~IBHAI MAYAN.: Wi. the Minister of Territories. The bank has proposed to FINANCE be pI_aad to state: open 18 branches during the financial year 1987-88. Ca) the norms of fixing the rate of interest and other terms of advances made by the (e) and (d). Dena Bank has reported that Indian Banks to ovens.. s proJectsrJOint the bank is actively participating in the var- ventures: - ious schemes for financing weaker sec- tions and rural artisans such as Differential (b) whether It is. fact that as per normal Rate of Interest Scheme, Integrated Aural practice, the commercial banks world OWN' Development Programme, Self Employ- follow • bractice of charging the interest -ment Programme for Urban Poor and Self 231 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 232 Employment Scheme for Educated Unem- Shlflng of Thort...... at-:t of MI. ployed Youth. No other special scheme in IndWn ..... e.rtha, Bam., this regard has been formulated by the bank. 1629. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (a) whether expansion of the Thorium Project of Mis Indian Rare Earths at Bom- 1628. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: bay was sanctioned with a view to increase Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleaaed to the capacity to 300 M.T.; state: (b) whether the foundation stone for the '(a) whether some leading scientific insti- expanded facility was laid on 1st March, tution in the country have taken steps to 1982; produce super computers; (c) whether the effluent treatment plant . (b) if so,. the details of these scientific of the project has already been completed institutions; at an expenditure of about Rs. 33 lakhs: (c) the steps taken by those institutions (d) if so, whether the project is now pro- for producing super computers; posed to be shifted elsewhere; and (d) the assistance sought by those scien- (e) if so, the reasons therefor? tific institutions from the Union Govern- ment; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- (e) the central assistance given to those NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN scientific institutions for the above pur- THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN pose and details thereof? DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) and (b). Although the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE foundation stone for a new Thorium Nitrite MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- Plant at BARC, Trombay was laid in 1982, NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN implementation of the project was not pro- THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN ceeded with in view of changed market DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, situation for the product and other fac- ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHAI K.R. tors. After a review of all relevant factors, NARAYANAN): (a) Yes. Sir. project has been sanctioned in December, 1986 with a reduced capacity of 150 tonnes (b) Department of Electronics is plan- per annum. ning to set up a Centre for Development of Advanced Computer Technology (c) An amount of Rs. 27.30 lakhs has (COACT). In addition, the Centre for been spent on Effluent Treatment Plant for Development of Telematics (COOT) also treating effluents from the existing Tho- proposes to develop some capability in rium Plant as a result of recommendations this area. of the CAE Safety Review Committee, as this is unavoidable and necessary from (c) The proposals are at initial stages. environmental consideration, as long as the existing Thorium Plant is in operation (d) and (e). The details of the financial in Trombay. requirements of the Institutions are being worked out. (d) and (e). The new Thorium Nitrite 233 Written Answers ~.sRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written -Answers 234 Plant will be located adjacent to the Orissa (b) the expected ratio of per capita Sands Complex Project of the Indian Rare investment to per capita income during the Earths Limited at Orissa as the Atomic 7th Five Year Plan period? Energy Commission has decided to shift out of BARC premises. Trombay, all activi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ties which are not directly related to the MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- R&D programme of BARC. All the neces- TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF sary infrastructural fact Ii ties are already PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION available at OSCOM Site. (SHAI SUKH RAM): (a) Statement Nos. 1 and 2 showing Per Capita Net Domestic Product at Current and Constant Prices for Per CIlpllll Incomellnwstsnent the years 1983-84 to 1985-86 are given below. State-wise Per Capita Investment 1630. SHRI A.P. DAS: Will the Minister of figures are not available. PLANNING be pleased to state: (b) The estimates of ratio of per capita (a) the per capita investment and per investment to per capita income for differ- capita income in different States and ent States arid Union Territories for the Union Territories during the last three Seventh Five Year Plan have not been years period; and prepared. STATEMENT-. Per Captial Net State Domestic Product at current prices for the year 1983-84 to 1985-86 State/UT 1983-84 1984-85 1985-86 (P) (P) (0) , 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 1965 1996 2184 2. Arunachal Pradesh 2036 2160 N.A. 3. Assam 1862 1821 2017 4. Bihar 1284 1418 1548 5. Goa- 4062 4492 4782 6. Gujarat 2768 2901 2772 7. Haryana 3037 3159 3669 8. Himachal Pradesh 2226 2217 2542 9. Jammu & Kashmir 1976 2079 2173 10. Karnataka 1970 2189 2136 11. Kerala 1901 2076 2287 12. Madhya Pradesh 1712 1693 1968 235 Written AI1SW8IS AUGUST 6. 1987 Written AnBW8IS 236 1 2 3 4 13. Maha,...htra ~ 3203 3430 14. Manipur 1967 2202 2350 15. Meghalaya 1839 1727 NA 16. Nagaland 2931 NA NA 17. Orissa 1636 1534 NA 18. Punjab 3732 4103 4416 19. Rajasthan 2011 1990 2043 20. Sikkim 2072 2559 NA 21. Tamil Nadu 1859 2128 2353 22. Tripura NA NA .NA 23. Uttar Pradesh 1659 1782 1988 24. West Bengal 2232 2594 2813 25. Delhi 4275 4765 5315 26. Pondicherry 3594 3736 NA All India (Per 2186 2355 2596 Capita net national product) Q: Quick Estimates P: Provisional NA: Not avanable (The figur.. have not been supplied by the concerned State Governments). Source : Directorate of Economics & Statistics for estimates at state level and National Accounts Division. Ceotra' Statistical Organisation for All India Estimates. Note 1: Owing to differences in methodology and source material used the figures for different states are not strictly comparablfit. 'Note 2: The St_te of Mizoram and the UTa of Andaman & Nicobar Islands. Chandigarh. Dadr_ & Nagar Haveli and Lakshadweep do not prepare these estimates. • Figures in respect of Goa relate to the erstwhile UT of Goa, Daman & Diu, 'ZJ7 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 238 STATEllENT-II Pel Capita Net State Dom..,/c Product al con.'an' (1970-71}prlc... fOI the yea, 1983-84 to 1985-. StateJU.T. 1983-84 1984-85 1985-88 (P) (P) (Q) 1 2 3 .. 1. Andhra Pradeeh 7. 705 743 2. Arunachal ~ 745 785 NA 3. Auam 518 584 804 4. Bihar 451 476 488 5. Goa- 1522 1800 1154 6. GLijarat 910 882 7. Haryana 1083- 1110 le17 8. Himachal Pradeeh 7. 718 788 9. Jammu & Kaahmir 113 884 873 10. Kamataka 731 772 888 11. Kerala -580 807 814 12. Madhya Pradeeh 802 574 823 13. Mahar.htr. 1033 1017 1029 14. Manipur 585 574 800 15. Ort_ 558 512 NA 18. Punjab 1487 1518 1821 17. Rajasthan 728 878 813 18. Slkklm (at ll1CHl prtcea) 1882 1844 NA 18. Tamil Nadu 871 745 779 20. Trlpura 819 NA NA 21. UttarPr.... h 575 580 587 22. w..t Bengal 818 833 858 239 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1917 Written Answers 240 1 2 3 4 23. Delhi 1583 1641 1714 24. Pondicherry 1290 1262 -NA All Indi~ (Per capita 764 775 798 net national Droduct) Q: Quick Estimates P: Provisional NA: Not available (The figures have not been supplied by the concerned State Governments). Source : Directorates of Economics & Statistics for estimattts at state level and National Accounts Division, Central Statistical Organisation for All India Estimates. Note 1: Owing to differences in methodology and source material used the figures for different states are not strictly comparable. Note 2 : The States of Meghalaya and Nagaland prepare these estimates at current prices only. Note 3: The State of Mizoram and the UTs of Andaman & Nicobar Islands, Chandigarh, Dadra & Nagar Haveli and Lakshadweep do not prepare these estimates. • Figures in respect of Goa relate to the erstwhile UT of Goa, Daman & Diu. SocIal WeHare Schemes care and protection, assistance is provided to voluntary organisations through the State 1631. SHRI R.P. DAS: Will the Minister of Governments/Union Territories. During WELFARE be pleased to state: 1985-86,·a sum of Rs. 1,84,27.552 and during 1986-87, Rs. 2,49,89,552 was released under this scheme. The State-wise break-up is given (a) whether any State Government has in Annexure-A. sent any proposal under the various social welfare schemes during 1985-86 and 1986- B. HANDICAPPED WELFARE 87; and .(a) Scheme of Assistance to Voluntary (b) if so, the details of the proposals/ Organisations for Disabled Persons: schemes and the action taken by the Mini- stry in this regard, State-wise? Grants are given through the State Govern- ments to voluntary organisations engaged in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- providing educational training and rehabilita- tion facilities to disabled persons. The details ISTRY OF WELFARE (SHAI GIRIDHAR of grants given under this scheme during GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. 1985-86 and 1986-87 are given in Annexure- B. (b) A Statement is given below. (b) Scheme of Assistance to Disabled Persons for· purchase ffitting of STATEMENT aids/appliances: A. SOCIAL DEFENCE: Under this scheme, grants are given to voluntary organisations including- autonom- Under the Scheme of children in need of ous bodies under the State/Central Govern- 241 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 242 ments to provide necessary aids to the scheme during 1985-86 are given· in disabled for their physical rehabilitation. A Annexure-E. State-wise list of voluntary organisations which received grants during 1985-86 and 1986-87 are given in Annexure-C. (e) Special Employment Exchanges & Special Cells in Normal Employ- fc) Scholarships for Disabled Persons." ment Exchanges for the Physically Handicapped : Grants are given for providing scholarships to physically handicapped students from Under this scheme. 22 Special Employment Class tX onwards. The details of the grants Exchanges and 40 Special Cells are function- given under this scheme during 1985-86 and· ing at present. The details of grants during 1986-87 are given in Annexure-D. 1985-86 and 1986-87 are given in Annexure-F. (d) Petrol Subsidy Scheme: (f) District Rehabilitation Centre for Disabled: Under this scheme. ·50% of the cost of petrol/diesel purchased by handicapped Under this scheme, eight district rehabilita- owners of motorised vehicles is reimbursed to tion centres have been sanctioned by them. The State Governments incur expendi- Government of India in eight States to provide ture on this scheme and are reimbursed by services to the rural handicapped. The details the Centre. No proposal was received during of grants sanctioned during 1985-86 and 1986-87. The details of grants given under this 198fr87 are given in Annexure-II. ANNEXURE 'A' Statement indicating the grants given to States/U. Ts. under the scheme for the welfare of children in need of Care & Protection during 1985-86 & 1986-87 S. No. Names of the 1985-86 1986-87 States/U. Ts. 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 25,63,348 31,15,603- 2. Assam 5,87,421 7,13,875 3. Bihar 2,74,138 4,03,888 4. Gujarat 4,90,133 4,91,644 5. Haryana 2,13,638 2,46.382 6. Himachal Pradesh 40,200 41,070 7. Jammu & Kashmir Nil Nil 8. Karnataka 8,83,610 23,54,563 9. Kerela 2,40,000 6,07,520 10. Madhya Pradesh 8,78,250 2.91,834 11. Maharashtra 20.45,143 16,97,963 243 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 244 1 2 3 4 12. Meghalaya 5,82,740 4,05,000 13. Manipur 1,08,811 92,046 14. Nagaland 6,94,612 1,97,444 15. Orissa 7,79,938 12,61,206 16. Punjab 1,82,000 1,82,250 17. Rajasthan 3,67,346 15,57,259 18. Sikkim 10,000 40,500 19. Tamil Nadu 31,81,665 45,56,492 20. Tripura 1,31,525 2,62,716 21. Uttar Pradesh 2,69,001 24,30,000 22. West Bengal 23,49,112 23,51,157 Total (States) 1,68,72,631 2,32,40,412 23. Andaman & Nicobar Is. 1,15,450 1,62,000 24. Arunachal Pradesh 58,000 2,41,500 25. Chandigarh Nil Nil 26. Dadra & Nagar Haveli Nil Nil 27. Delhi 6,36,900 4,34,390 28. Goa, Daman & Di u 1,02,000 4,45,500 29. Lakshadweep Nil Nil 30. Mizoram Nil 40,500 31. Pondicherry 6,42,571 4,25.250 Total (U. Ts.) 15,54,921 17,49,140 Total (States) 1.68,72.631 2,32.40,412 GRAND TOTAL 1,84,27,552 2.49.89,552 (States + UTs) 245 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 ANNEXURE-B Grant-in-aid released to various State Governments under the scheme of assistance to voluntary.organisations for disabled persons during 1985-86 and 1986-87 S. No. Name of the State Amount sanctioned (In Rupees) 1985-86 1986-87 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 9,82.388 21.25,092 2. Assam 2,84.630 1,96.980 3. Bihar 73.440 6,45.828 4. Gujarat 21.85,260 19,12,105 5. Haryana 2,01.605 6,99,827 6. Himachal Pradesh 6.11.107 8.65,304 7. Jammu & Kashmir 35.069 2,56.088 8. Karnataka 21.25.498 20.95.240 9. Kerala 15.60.967 16.65,426 10. Madhya Pradesh 8,48.791 2,92.692 11. Maharashtra 48.23.989 58.97.833 12. Manipur 4.45,845 4.27,510 13. Orissa 9.58.460 11.45.529 14. Punjab 3.68,837 1.81,119 15. Rajasthan 7.24,947 6.45,511 16. Tamil Nadu 21.21.519 30,34.843 17. Tripura 58.660 95.260 18. Uttar Pradesh 33.82,952 25.13.994 19. West Bengal 39.85,563 42,27.645 20. Goa, Daman & Diu Nil 4.660 21. Mizoram 1,50,000 Nil 247 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 248 1 2 3 4 22. Chandigarh 11.332 45.958 23. Oelhi 24.51.177 29.82.055 Total: 2.83.92,036 3.21.16.555 ANNEXURE IC' Grant-in-aid released to various State Governments under the scheme of assistance to disabled persons for purchase fitting of aids appliances during the year 1985-86 & 1986-87•. S. No. Name of the State Amount sanctioned Cln lakhs of Rs.) 1985-88 198fr87 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 8.20 Nil 2. Assam Nil 0.15 3. Bihar 10.50 13.50 4. Gujarat 7.35 8.80 5. Haryana ·3.50 4.00 6. Jammu & Kashmir Nil 0.20 7. Karnataka 8.08 6.50 8. Kerala Nil 2.50 9. Madhya Pradesh 4.20 4.80 10. Maharashtra 7.15 4.15 11. Manipur Nil 1.75 12. Orissa 8.00 6.75 13. Punjab 10.10 13.00 14. Rajasthan 17.00 20.00 15. Tamil Nadu 14.165 13.50 16. Uttar Pradesh 58.09 64.57 17. West Bengal 4.25 7.05 249 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 1 2 3 4 U.T. 18. Chandigarh Nil 0.10 19. Oelhi 15.80 13.80 177.08 185.12 ANNEXURE '0' Grant-in-aid released to various States/UTs under the scheme of Scholarshps for Disabled Persons during 1985-86 and 1986-87 State/UT Amount released during (Rs. in lakhs) 1985-86 1986-87 , 2 3 4 1. Andtfta Pradesh 10.00 32.00 2. Assam 1.50 4.98 3. Bihar Nil 16.00 4. Gujarat 28.95 31.00 5. Haryana 5.85 4.58 6. Himachal Pradesh Nil 9.25 7. Jammu & Kashmir Nil 0.67 8. Karnataka 7.00 15.85 9. Kerala. 10.00 12.50 10. Madhya Pradesh Nil 16.86 11. Maharashtra 19.68 27.00 12. Manipur Nil 0.98 13. Meghalaya 0.02 0.04 14. Nagaland Nil 0.12 15. Orissa Nil 5.33 16. Punjab Nil 3.16 17. Rajasthan 15.27 17.00 251 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 252 1 2 3 4 18. Sikkim Nil Nil 19. Tamil Nadu 14.50 19.31 20. Tripura 0.44 0.83 21. Uttar Pradesh Nil . 29.21 22. West Bengal 5.00 5.00 23. A & N Islands 0.15 0.21 24. Arunachal Pradesh Nil 0.28 25. Chandigarh 0.15 Nil ANNEXURE "E' The Amount sanctioned to various States/U. Ts. under the scheme of Petrol Subsidy during 1985-86 and 1986-87 S. No. Name of the State Amount allocated for 1985-86 1986-87 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 7,000 2. Assam Nil 3. Bihar 1,000 4. Gujarat 8,000 5. Haryana 2,000 6. Himachal Pradesh Nil 7. Karnataka 4,000 8. Kerala 5,000 9. Madhya Pradesh 6,000 10. Maharashtra 12,500 1'. Manipur Nil 253 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 254 '1 2' 3 4 12. Orissa Nil 13. Punjllb 2,500 14. Rajasthan 6,000 15. Tamil Nadu 11,000 6,000 16. Uttar Pradesh Nil 17. West Bengal Nil 18. Delhi 1,000 19.. Chandigarh 9,000 20. Goa, Daman & Diu 4,000 21. o & N Haveli 0.03 22. Goa. Daman & Diu 0.30 0.50 23. Lakshadweep Nil Nil 24. Mizoram 0.40 020 25, Pondicherry 0.35 0.16 26. Delhi 4.35 8.00 OTHER INSTITUTIONS/ORGANISATIONS 1. Directorate General 9.94 15.00 of Employment & Training New Delhi. 2. Training Centre for 0.44 0.24 Adult Deaf, Hyderabad. 134.32 267.23 255 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 256 ANNEXURE IF' Amounts sanctioned to various States/U. Ts. undar the scheme of Special Employment Exchanges/Cells for PhYSically Handicapped S. No. Name of State Amount Released 1985-86 1986-81 Rs. Rs 1. Andhra Pradesh 73,897 Nil 2. Assam 9,480 Nil 3. Gujarat Nil ·64,736 4 .. Haryana 44,000 Nil 5. Himachal Pradesh 36,952 38,800 6. Jammu & Kashmir 12,000 12,000 7. Karnataka 18,829 24,000 8. Kerala 2,60,608 Nil 9. Madhya Pradesh 1,04,700 77,741 10. Manipur 50,000 Nil 11. Meghalaya 23,755 Nil 12. Nagaland 28,054 Nil 13. Rajasthan 85,462 Nil 14. Tamil Nadu 48,424 33,850 15. Chandigarh 61,000 Nil 8,57,161 2,51.127 257· Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 258 ANNEXURE IG' Amounts sanctioned by Govt. of India to States under the Distt. Rehabilitation Centre Scheme during 1985-86 and 1986-87 (Rs. in lakhsl S. No. Name of the State Amount ReleasAd 1985-86 1986-87 1. Andhra Pradesh 15.60 Nil 2. Haryana 15.60 Nil 3. Karnataka 7.84 12.00 4. Madhya Pradesh 15.60 Nil 5. Maharashtra 15.80 15.00 6. Orissa Nil 17.00 7. Rajasthan 15.60 Nil 8 West Bengal 3.96 6.00 90.00 50.00 Income Tax Outstanding against Rim exceeding Rs. 1 lakh was oustanding as on Stars 31.3.1987 are given in the annexed state- ment. The amount outstanding has also 1632. SHRt SYED MASUDAL HOS- been shown in the Statement below. SAIN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) Depending upon the facts and cir- cumstances of each case, appropriate (a) the names of film stars against whom steps, according to law, are taken from Income-tax above rupees one lakh is out- time to time by the concerned authorities standing at present and amount outstand- for recovery/reduction of outstanding ing against each film star: and demand. These steps include. inter-alia, requesting the appellate authorities for (b) the steps taken to recover the expeditious disposal of the pending amount? appeals. These also include resorting to proceedings under section 226(3) of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Income-tax Act and attachment of mova- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN ble and immovable properties after issuing THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAt B.K. recovery certificates to the Tax Recovery GADHVI): (a) The names of the film stars Officer under section 222 of the Income-tax. against whom income-tax demand Act. 259 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 260 STATEMENT (Rupees in lakhs) 81. No. Name of film stars Gross demand Demand outstanding not enforcement 1 2 3 4 1. Dimple Khanna 10.84 2. G. Madhavi 15.20 2.20 3. Jitendra Kapoor 49.69 49.69 4. Jayaprada 65.12 65.12 5. Kalpana K. 19.93 6. Kishor Kumar Ganguli 24.17 12.66 7. Nasirkhan Sarvar Khan 15.01 15.07 8. Ranbir Raj Kapoor 21.47 17.01 9. Rekha Ganeshan 58.84 24.13 10 Rajesh Khanna 63.83 1.40 11. Rati Agnihotri 16.31 5.62 " 12. R. Rajnikanth 39.27 37.17 13. Shashi Raj Kapoor 28.07' 28.07 14. Shreeram Lagoo 22.85 21.25 15. Tina Munim 19.64 18.68 16. Vijay Anand 21.75 2.15 17. Vinod Khanna 12.49 2.09 18. Prem Nazir 10.86 5.77 19. S. Kamalahasan 10.45 9.33 20. N.T. Rama Rao 16.90 7.95 21. Hema Malini 16.87 8.62 22. N. Balkrishna 2.04 23. Ashishkumar Sen Gupta 3.37 3.37 24. Ashok Kumar Ganguly 1.06 0.08 261 Written Answers SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 262 1 2 3 4 25. Dev Anand 6.66 6.66 2~. Deena Pathak 5.17 3.17 27. Deepti Naval 5.89 5.89 28. Dilip Kumar 2.87 0.41 29. Feroz Khan 2.54 1.15 30. G.K. Asrani 2.09 2.00 31. Kadar Khan 6.64 32. Kamaludin Kazi 5.32 33. Moushmi Chatterjee 6.37 0.12 34. Reena Roy 5.81 3.10 35. Ranjeeta Kaur 4.45 3.77 36. Rehana Sultan 1.22 37. Ranjeet Bedi 6.10 38. .Sanjay alias Abhas Khan 9.69 8.31 39. Sarika Thakur 2.02 0.32 40. Sushma Shiromani 6.64 4.69 41. Shabana Azmi 3.43 2.11 42. Satyendra Kumar Sharma 8.01 6.96 43. Shakti Kapoor 7.60 6.31 44. SUjit Kumar 1.50 0.27 45. Vikram alias M.N. Makandar 3.53 0.06 46. Vinod Mehra 9.81 2.02 47. Vidya Sinha 8.17 2.36 48. Yogita Bali , .41 0.25 49. Randhir Raj Kapoor 4.07 2.85 50. Anantha Nag 2.47 2.47 51. Manjula 1.70 52. Shankar Nag 1.90 1.90 263 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answer~ 264 1 2 3 4 53. C.K. Nagesh 1.48 0.75 54. G. Savitri 6.84 55. G. Vljaya Nirmala 6.66 3.52 56. Jamuna 2.40 1.18 57. M.R.R. Vasu 1.39 58. M.R. Radhika 4.02 1.82 59. P. Raj Babu 1.36 60. P. Bhanumathy 2.94 81. S.S. Rajendran 1.60 82. U. Krishna Raju 5.07 5.07 63. Vanisree 1.85 84. V.C. Ganesen 5.97 85. C. Suhasini 9.86- 6.01 88. Sripriya 0.96 0.86 87. G. Mahesh Babu 1.83 1.76 68. G.S.R. Krl.hnamurthl 5.52 2.35 89. K. Bhagyaraj 7.43 4.55 70. Poornlma Bhagyaraj 1.92 1.92 71. BIB.",t Chatterjee 1.89 72. Helen Richardson 2.59 0.34 OpenIng of Bank BIW1Ches In West THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bengal MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- HANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). Reserve 1633. SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOS- Bank of India (RBI) has reported that com- SAIN: Will. the Minister of FINANCE be mercial banks had opened 65 branches in pleased to state: West Bengal during the period from 1.4.86 (a) number of bank branches opened in to 31.3.87. District-wise and bank-wise West Bengal during 198~87, district-wise details of these 65 branches are indicated and bank-wise details thereof; and in the Statement below. RBI has advised the banks that branches should be opened (b) number of such branches proposed at the allotted centres in a phased manner to be opened during 1987-88, district.:wise during the remaining period .of the current and bank-wise? . Branch Licensing Policy. It is, therefore, 265 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 266 not possible to indicate the number of 88, district-wise and bank-wise in West branches that will be opened during 1987- Bengal. STATEMENT District-wise number 01 branches opened by banks in West Bengal during 1.4.88 to 31.3.87 Name of District No. of branches opened 1. West Dlnajpur 2 2. Howrah 5 3. Burdwan 11 4. Calcutta 9 5. 24-Parganas 5 6. Jalperlguri 1 7. Midnapore 8 8. Maida 1 9. Hooghly 7 . 10. Nadia 5 11. Murshidabad 11 Total 65 Bank-wise number of branches opened by banks in West Bengalduring 1.4.86 to 31.3.87 Name of Bank No. of branch•• opened , 2 1. State Bank of India 3 2. Allahabad Bank 3 3. Bank of Baroda 3 4. Bank of India 1 5. Central Bank of India 4 6. Dena Bank 2 7. Punjab National Bank 1 8. United Bank of India 9 9. UCO Bank 7 267 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 268 1 2 10. Gaur Gramin Bank 2 11. Hawrah Gramin Bank 7 12. Burdwan Gramln Bank 6 13. Manabhum Gramln Bank 2 14. Nadia Gramin Bank 3 15. • 0 Murshidabad Gramin Bank 11 18. United Industrial Bank Ltd. 1 Total 85 Afforestation of Chhotanagpur Plateau MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Affo- 1634. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will the restation of hill and barren iands of Chhota Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND Nagpur Plateau is also envisaged under FORESTS be pleased to state: the Centrally Sponsored Schemes and also the Externally Assisted Social Fore- (a) whether Union Government have stry Project in Bihar. However, the assist- taken steps for afforestation of hill areas ance given and the Project details are and barren land of ChhotanagplJr plateau: earmarked for the entire State. Regional or and districtwise information within the State is not maintained at the national level. (b) if so, details of the programmes and funds allotted for the purpose durm9 the (b) Funds under the centrally sponsored Seventh Five Year Plan Period? schemes are not allocated for the entire 7th Plan period. Allocation are made on year- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to-year basis. The details are as under:- S. No. Name of the Schemes/ Amount released/ Project allo.cated during the first three years of the 7th Plan (Rs. in lakhs) 1. Rural Fuelwood Plantation 468.88 including Afforestation of Eco- Sensitive Non-Himalayan Area 2. National Rural Employment 3224.35 Programme 3. Rural Landless Employment 3664.10 Gurantee Programme 4. Bi har Social Forestry Project 1407.4 receiving SIOA (Swedish) assistance 269 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl Written Answers 270 Reduction of Import Duty on Raw Wool lntertm report of the planning group on road transport 1635. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to 1637. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- state: WARI: Will the Minister of PLANNING be (a) whether the Government propose to pleased to state: reduce the import duty on raw wool in order\ to save the hand-made woollen (a) whether Government have received industry where a large number of carpet the interim report of the planning· Group manufacturing units have become 'sick' on Road Transport; due to paucity of indigenous woollen yarn and wool: (p) if so. the main features of the interim report; (b) if so, details thereof: and (c) whether Government have examined (c) if not, the reasons therefore? all the suggestions made in the interim report; and THE MINISTER 'OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN (d) if so. how many of them have been THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. accepted and when final report will be GADHVI): (a) and (b). The Government submitted? have already reduced the import duty on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 0 0 raw wool from 30 /0 to 20 /0 advalorem with MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- effect from 29.4.1987, after considering the TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF representations received from the woollen PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION industry including the carpet industry. (SHAI SUKH RAM): (a) to (d). Planning Commission has constituted a Steering (c) In view of (a) and (b) above, does not Committee for the preparation of lon9- arise. term plan for transport development in the perspective of 2000 A.D. The Steering Tax Holiday for Jute Industry Committee in turn has constituted a number of specialised groups for the study 1636. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Will of various modes of transport including the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to road transport. The Report of the Planning state: Group on Road Transport is yet to be received. No interim report has been sub- (a) whether the Government propose to mitted. The ~eport on road transport when grant a tax holiday for at least two years for received. would be examined by the Steer- the jute industry in order to enable the jute ing Committee and would be used as an industry to face the uneven and severe input for the work of the Committee. The competition; and report of the Steering Committee would be utilised by the Planning Commission for (b) if not. the reasons therefor? preparing long-term plans. Hence no for- mal view would be taken by the Govern- THE· MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment on the report of the planning groups DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN including planning group on Road THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. Transport. GADHVI): (a) No. Sir. Bank Robberies (b) There are already several incentives available on the statute to .manufacturing 1638. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: and processing industries which can be Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to availed of by the jute industry as well. state: 271 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 272 (a) the number of bank robberies number of persons killed. number of per- occurred in the country during the period sons arrested and the number of cases January-June, 1987; solved, as reported by Reserve Bank of India and the Public Sector Banks, is given (b) the amount robbed in each case and in the Statement below. the number of persons killed; (c) whether any case has been solved, if (d) Bank robberies/dacoities, to a con- so. the number of persons arrested and the siderable extent, depend on the general amount recovered; and security environment in the locality. Banks, however. have been taking steps to (d) the steps taken for the protection of -improve their security arrangements so as banks in the country and particularly in the to offer as little inducement as possible to disturbed areas? miscreants to rob banks and also to deter them. As this is a continuous process, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- security measures implemented by public ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAAD- sector banks. including those in distur- HANA POOJARy): (a) to (c). Information bed areas, are being reviewed from time in respect of the number of bank robberies- to time and, whenever further improve- dacoities that occurred in public sector ments are considered necessary. requisite banks during the period January-June, guidelines/instructions are given to the 1987, amount in~olved, amount recovered, banks. 273 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA, Written Answers 274 "0 E CD ~ ~ o 0 E 0 c( ~ Ei co o ::l > co,.._ co o 00 ci cd E > ~ c( s::: N + Q) o ,.._ s::: ,.._ co co u) '0 ~ sri c:i CD ::l N co 0 o g CD ~ -"0 -o cas::: ~ CD ~ g ~ ~ ~ ZlXltn 275 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 276 o T"'" o &n T"'" o CJ) m ,.... &n N o ci N ,.... ,._ ,.... ,.... r- ,.... ,.... ,.... r- ,.... co co co co co co co co co r- co N C") ..,j ..,j ..,j ..,j ..,j ..,j co N .- &ri cD T"'" cO M M M ,._: cD 0 cD ,- (¥) N N N N N (¥) cD .c u C as~ m ai ~ ~ as ai ...::::J ~~ C C CD Q. c: as as as C =0 as as.J:l m m :c ~ c c: c: mea u ::::J _- as o _0) car. ca C CL 00..- en ea C C u as C as ~~ 0_C a: ~ ~ C ca....: ._o ::J~ ;; .c= C ._~ -en 0 ~ as as as c: .- cam as C ca< z C za: as m m~ -~ Z as. .cas m as -o asU) .c .... ~ ... ca E ~ ._as Q.::J .!! ~ .!! as !:; as .:III! as C~ ·2"5 a C c~ C.c C en :I as :I 0 (.) as CD as as as ::::J as o..z o..m :::> (.) (.)~ men 0..:1: ci N T"'" T"'" 277 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 278 • CD an ...... N Nan o ..,..: ...... co CD co N 0;,...... : ~ "0 CD as .Q .Q c: - as "C as ~"O as ~ - CI) "C ..D o ~ E as as ca~ ..D ~ ~ as CD (.) "C :s< CI) E c: .c as s::.... .s=. - as o (/)_ c0 E as ... c:: - ~ < m .¥ as o CD =c ~ .~ < c ...... ~ ca c: c: as as ~m "C ... en c:"C C .::J meaD c as - as as Q. O~ .- as ~.i:: =:c as .... "C - 0 UlO) .¥.2. ... as Q) as 0a: as c: c 0 ~~E CI)~ ~ . >-~ as ~. - c: c:~ mm taas.c. .!! as as . as > o~< CJ)~ men >z== as ....:,... cO- 279 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 280 -.:t , I C") C\I C\I Q) lO z z c; C") z 0 C") "lit 1 ci ci ..,j d ci ...... CD ...... CD (W') N .... C\I N 'ii ~ c.. E cD N C').... 281 Written Answers _SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 282 8 ci ..... m ...... CIO N U) aC Z It) Z ..... co (If) CD co ..... 8 en ,...... 0 0 ,... It) .....: ci cj d 0 0 0 0 ._ ..: ~ CD ... as :::::I C ... ~ ~ :::J ::J .~ - ~ ., o ., CD c E o as "C c( ... o ... c "0 - :::::I ., - 0 - ...:::J .)It e: .0 ., .!!. ~CJ I: CD .¥ .lit ._ai CD... ..: ~(!) ., - as-'" 1:"0 - .!!c as - en. £ox-.- ca- "C.r:. E - CD £0 ... W.r:. Coo ~)( ::J « -Eca :::::I Cii ."0 "OLLm. - c _w "O.r:. I: U I: : e: _I: I:- -0_CD o I: 5 0 o ... .!! .)It as .¥. UJ-- ... ;0 (l)ca C-' 0 ~<.!! ~ ~ .cs Zo• e: Z~.: eICS Z - en.r:..., .0 ... 41) ..c I: mf. ... _ ..c. .,"0 4I)m- ..c'=., ase: ~ t! - • .!! -asc ., _~c.1ii- -c: •c: CD 0 "2'J! I: "C :::::I :::Js::" :::J • :::::I x ~ C 0 ZC!J mal.-- Q..z Q..w Q.._O 0..0 283 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 284 ..... I ..... II)...... o ..... ~ ~ ~. ~ ..... co co co CD CD"" CD"" CD"" CD &ri u; .j .j"" .j N an M ... an ..... an M cO a) M &ri an ..... N ...N N ...... ca . C c :; ~ :::s .!! ~ ~ C-a ~ :I CD CD as -a Q. CD m ~ :::s N .li~ -~ ...J e c . ~o ..; ai:C ~.: as~ o . :co.. c :::s .- ~ --am c . mg - as -0.c-- c:: m;:;->- CD as cam~ Z- m:I =I! .c:.. _'0 - ..D as o~ ~ ~ ill) > .2 as~ ~C _c ~oo - ~ :::s c : - C .~ c Q. c;:; .. - :I >-= :::s 0 m~-~ c!~ l O~-~ C/)C( o..~ ,..: ci .,... ~ II) II) 2es Written Answers . SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 286 ,.._ co N cO..... as ._ai= ::::::I "0 U c.~ =0o ~"O a; C as - as 0 c caD: Or;;o ~ "0- cpJ! ">o ~> ~ c as Q. =>:1 co e.ca 28( Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Answers 288 Development of Processes In CSIR (1 ) Setting up better linkages with Laboratories user industries, through' close interaction. with industry 1639. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the organisations viz. (i) Confedra- PRIME MINISTER'be pleased to state: tion of Engineering Industry (CEI) and (ii) Federation of (a) whether Government have made any Indian Chambers of Commerce study of the working of the C.S.I.R. and Industry (FICCI). Laboratories and fhe new techniques and processes evolved by then, in their (2) Execution of Memorandum of respective fields; Understanding with several industrial firms (both from the (b) the number of such new techniques Public and Private Sectors), for .and processes evolved by them over the joint development of projects of years and the number out of them adopted specific interest/need to the by industries for commercial use; and industry. (c) whether any steps are bei I'1g taken to (3) Making resource allocations to make the working of CSiR laboratories laboratories. based on review of more efficient and purposeful? the programmes and perfor- mance, conducted jointly with representatives of industry, to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ensure, that the R&D projects MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND taken up by CSIR laboratories TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF are of relevance to industry. STATE IN THE DEPARTrv1ENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC .=NERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE [Trans/ation J (SHRr K. R. NARAYANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. The Government had set up a committee Industrial Sickness 1m April, 1986, to review the functioning and working of CSIR and its laboratories. 1640. SHRr BALWANT SINGH Besides this, the research programmes/ RAr~OOWALIA: projects undertaken by the laboratories DR. CHINTA MOHAN: are formulated and their progress reviewed by the Research Advisory Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Councils (RAC) of the laboratories, to state: consisting of eminent scientists/techno- logists, senior representatives from the (a) whether in recent study report 01 the public and private sectors of industry etc. Industrial Finance Corporation of India it has been observed that sickness is (b) Over the years, theCSIR laboratories prevailing in the industries due to defective have developed around 2500 new planning; processes and techniques, of these 1750 have been licensed to over 4200 (b) if so, whether Government have entrepreneurs for commercialisation. studied the report; (c) The recommendations of the Review (c) if so, the details thereof; and Committee have since been received and are under examination. In the meantime (d) the details of the Government's CSI R has taken severa' steps to make its perspective planning in this regard? working more efficient and purposeful to potential users. Th~ are: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 289 'Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 290 MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI (d) the steps Government propose to 'jANARDHANA POOJARy): (a) to (d). The take to arrest this rise in industrial sickness information is being collected and will be and how is it proposed to recover the huge laid on the Table of the House to the extent outstanding against these sick fJnits? available and permissible under the rules. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE \, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI [English] JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a)' and (b). There are both internal as well as external RehabllHatlon of RAPP.. I factors responsible for sickness in industrial units. The Board for Industrial 1641. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: and ,Financial Reconstruction has been set Will the PRIME MINI'STER be pleased to up by the Government to take various state: rneasvres pertaining to the sick industrial companies falling within the purview of the, (a) whether any final decision has been Sick Industrial Companies (Special taken to rehabilitate RAPP - I Kota Atomic Provisions) Act, 1985. The Board for Power Plant; Industrial and Financial Reconstruction has become operational only with effect (b) if so, the details thereof; and from 15th May, 1987. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) As per the information received from Reserve Bank of India, the outstanding THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bank credit against sick units stood at Rs. MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND 4665.23 crores as at the end of June, 1986. TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF The information with regard tothefunds_of STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF the financial institutions locked up in sick OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC industrial units is bEting collected and ENERGY ELECTRONICS AND SPACE would be laid on the Table of the House to (SHRI R. NARAYANAN): (a) and (b). K: the extent available and permissible under Efforts are being made to sea' cracks in the the Rules. south end shield of Unit-' of RAPS and run it. In addition, the possibility of (d) Banks have been advised to monitor replacing the end shields, as a part of 10':19 continuously the borrowal accounts with a term rehabilitation, is also being examined. view to ensure recovery of their dues. Banks conduct viability studies in respect (c) Does not arise. of sick unite; in their portfolio and try to nurse the units found potentially viable by Industrial Sickness evolving suitable rehabilitation packages. In case of units found non-viable, the 1642. DR. B.L. SHAl'LESH: Will the banks take recourse to suitable action for Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: the recovery of their dues. (a) whether the incidence of industrial [Translation] sickness is on the increase despite the Opening of Br.I1Ches of Banks setting up of the quasi-judiCial Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction; 1643. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOWALIA: (b) if so, the reasons therefor; DR. CHIft.lTA MOHAN: DR. V. VENKATESH: (c) the estimated amount of money of SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: Government and Financial Institutions Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased locked up in these sick industrial units; and to state: 291 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 292 (a) whether the Reserve Bank of India (b) to (e): Details of number of licences has isSued licences to banks during the issued and the number of offices opened past years to open their new branches in by the banks during the three year period rural and backward areas; ending 31.12.86 and the number of licen- ces pending with them as on 31.12.86 are (b) if so, the names of the banks to which indicated banklbank~roup-wise in the such licences have been issued during the Statement below. Lack of infrastructuraS past three years indicating the number of facilities, absence of suitable premises, ~ licences issued to each of them; deficient communication facilities and non-availability of police station within a (c) the number of branches opened by reasonable distance for providing security each of these banks; are some of the reasons for delay/oon- utilisation of licences for opening (d) the number of licences remaining branches by the b.nks. Reserve Bank of unutilised with each of these banks; and India (RBI) has advised the banks that branches should be opened in a phased (e) the reasons therefor and stepstakenl manner during the remaining period of the proposed by Government in this regard? current Branch Licensing Policy. RBI has also advised its Regional Offices to extend the validity period of the licences wherever such extension is warranted. Task Forces THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE set up at the Regional Offices of ABI have MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAt JANARD- also been instructed to monitor closely the HANA POOJARy): (a) Yes. Sir. opening of branches by the banks. STATEMENT Bank/Bank-Group-wise number of licences issued and offices opened by banks during 1.1.84 to 31.12.86 and licences pending with banks as on 31.12.86. Name of Bank Licences Offices No. of licen- issued from opened· ses pending 1.1.84 to from 1.1.84 as on 31.12.86 to 31.12.86 31.12.86. 1 2 3 4 State Bank of India 538 619 51 State Bank of Blkaner and Jalpur 39 28 18 State Bank of Hyderabad 31 40 1 State Bank of Indore 5 9 State Bank of Mysore 10 13 State Bank of Patiala 16 14 8 State Bank of Saurashtra 5 10 State Bank of Travaneore 21 30 Allahabad Bank 122 176 2 293 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 294 Andhra Bank 48 54 Bank of Baroda 61 87 9 Bank of India 99 137 3 Bank of Maharashtra 41 26 5 Canara Bank 65 131 4 Central Bank of India 276 211 12 Corporation Bank 15 19 1 Dena Bank 27. 42 2 Indian Bank 76 104 Indian Overseas Bank 40 79 New Bank of India 33 44 10 Oriental Bank of Commerce 22 34 3 Punjab & Sind Bank 21 19 2 Punjab National Bank 189 -229 40 Syndicate Bank 92 103 1 Union Bank of India 110 148 2 United Bank of India 134 134 UCO Ban.k 129 117 10 Vijaya Bank 20 28 Regional Rura' Banks 3249 4796 413 Private Sector Banks 83 118 3 To.al: 5615 7599 601 ·Note:- 'Offices opened' includes branches opened against authorisations/ licences issued before 1.1.84 and pending as on that date. AllocatIon of more FWMk In Ae._rch called for allocation of more funds for agrj- and Development for AgrIcuItunt end cultural and medical research and for Medlc.t "-n:h induction of more scientific and technical personnel in Research and Devetopment 1644. SHRt BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: system; Will the· PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: . (b) if so, the steps taken by hiS Ministry to increase the allocation of funds in these (a> whether the Prime Minlater had ftelds; and 295 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written AnsWefS 296 (c) the efforts made to increase the public sector Industrial organisa- scientific and technical personnel in the tions for setting up in-house R&D Res_rch and Development system? units. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN 1645. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: VVlII the THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVEL- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND OPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELEC- FORESTS be pleased to state: TRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN) : (a) Yes. Sir. At the meeting (a) whether the norttHtastem region is of the Parliamentary Consultative Commit- getting special attention in conservation of tee of Ministry of Science and Technology, forest wealth; and Prime Minister had noted that funds for agriculture and medical research were not (b) if so, the details thereof? adequate and that more scIentific and technical personnel were needed. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FNVIRONMENT AND (b) These observations will be borne in FoAESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, mind while preparing future plans for Sir. Science and Technology. (b) A Statement giving details of the (c) A number of steps have been taken to steps taken is given below. increase the scientific and technical per- sonnel in Research and Development Sys- tem. Some of these are: Special steps taken for conservation of forest wealth in North-East region as referred to in The financial allocation for part( b) of the Lok Sabha Unstarred Question science and technology activities No. 1645 for answer on 6.8.1987 has been increased substantially over the successive Five Year Plans. , . Separate laws have been enacted in Assam. Meghalaya. Nagaland and Programmes have been Tripura where the 'ndian Forest Act launched t.hrough which core (Act 16 of 1927 ) is not applicable. groups of scientists are created in 2. Shifting cultivation is being gov- the country with all the necessary erned by special rules and modern facilities required for pur- regulations. SUing research in new and front- ier areas. 3. To control deforestation through Jhum cultivation. Jhumias are New scientific departments/or- being settled to regular agricultural ganisations such as Department practices. Their income is improv- of Biotechnology, Ocean Devel- ing. through implementation of var- opment, Environment, Non- ious agricultural and allied schemes. The approved outlay for ~onventional Energy Sources, the Seventh Five Ve,r Plan on these Centre for Development of Tele- schemes is Rs. 819.88 Jakhs. matics have been set up and some of these are in high techno- 4. . With a view to develop basic logy areas. research information with regard to the functioning of forest ~osys-. A number of fiscal incentives terns in the North Eastern Region, have been given to private and various research projects have been 297 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 298 sponsored by this Department and ExpIondIon of Sea We.en are currently operational. The total cost of the research projects during 1647. SHRI K. S. RAO: Will the PRIME 1984-'89 is Rs. 31.60 lakhs. MINISTER be pleased to state: 5. Rs. 1.9751akh have been released as (a) whether Government have taken Central assistance to Mizoram dur- steps to tap the rich sea wealth by deep sea ing 1986-87 for development of mining9 pelagic fisheries, sea farmin{:l etc; infrastructure for protection of forests from biotic interference. Cb) if so, the details thereof; "Cc) whether Government will be in a Alleged cheating of depositors by AucI- position to improve the socio-economic tya Flnaflee Company conditions of people living along coastline; Cd) if so, the details of plan made in this 1646. SHRr G. S. BASAVAAAJU: regard; and SHAI INDRAJIT GUPTA: SHAI H. N. NANJE GOWDA: Ce) whether the required funds and the SHRIMATI GEETA tech nological base to achieve the objec- MUKHERJEE: tive had been provided by Government? Wi" the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) whether the Director General of THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN Police has ordered an enquiry into the DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, alleged cheating of more than As. 14 ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K. R. crores belonging to nearly 25,000 deposi- NARAYANAN): (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. In the tors in Karnataka of the Audltya Finance deep seabed, polymetallic nodules have Company having branches all over the been indentified as a large resource -for country; mining. Research and development activi- ties on the exploration of nodule reserve (b) whether enquiry was ordered on the and extraction of metals like manganese, basis of complaints from all over copper, nickel and cobalt from the nodules Karnataka; are in progress. Exploration of marine fisheries including pelagic fish is being (c) if so, whether a number of depositors undertaken by. various State Fisheries Cor- had protested to the Prime Minister to porations and private agencies. Sea farm- freeze the company's activities; ing is also being actively pursued in several regions of our coastline. (d) whether the Director General of the Police has submitted its report to Govern- (c) and Cd). Yes, Sir. Specific pro- ment; and grammes like the survey of Jiving and non- living resources of the sea. manpower (e) if so, whether Union Government has development, control of marine pollution seen the report and the action being consi- and extraction of energy from the sea etc. dered against the company? have been launched by the Government which will have a great impact on improv- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ing the socio-economic conditions of our MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- coastal population. HANA POOJARY): Ca) to (e). Information , is being collected and to the extent availa- (e) Yes, Sir. Both financial outlay and ble and permis$ible under the statutes will -technological base are considered ade- be laid on the Table of the House. quate to meet the objectives. 299 Written Amwem AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answ,rs 300 (Translation J who were sanctioned loans indicating totaf amount disbursed; AcIn*IIstratIve Machinery' to Accelerate the Development Programmes for SCalSTa (c) whether complaints have been' received by Government that bank manag- 1648. SHRI C. D. GAMIT: Will the Minis- ers act arbitrarily in granting loans under ter of WELFARE be pleased to state: this scheme; (8) whether the Union Government have (d) whether any special directives have decided to set up a special administrative been issued to nationalised banks by machinery with a view to accelerate the Government to provide' loans easily to programmes for the development of the beneficiaries under this scheme and if so, Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes? details thereof; and (b) If so, the composition and the salient (e) whether Government propose to features of the machinery; and issue any special directives to Surat Regional Office of Bank of Baroda and if (c) the time by which it is likely to start so. details thereof? functioning? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- ISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRIDHAR HANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b). A State- GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. Special Adminis- ment giving the requisite information for trative Units known as Integrate Tribal the period from 1.4.85 to 31.3.87 as fur- Development Projects (I.T.D.P.) are nished by the Bank of Baroda is given. already in existence since the Fifth ptan for below. the implementation of developmental, pro- grammes for the Scheduled Tribes in all (c) Bank of Baroda has reported that Tribal Sub-Plan States/U. Ts. A Special complaints from five applicants regarding Component Plan is also operated by· the rejection of their loan applications had clstrict administration for the developmen- been received by the Branch Managers in tal programmes of the Scheduled Castes. Surat which were promptly disposed of on merits. . (b) and (c). 00 not arise. (d) ihe Scheme itself provides that banks should make loans easily available LDans to Educated Unemployed Persons to the beneficiaries recommended by the In Sunil by Bank of Baroda Task Force of District Industries Centres. The Reserve· Bank of India has recently 1649. SHRI C. D. GAM IT: Will the Minis- advised.all the banks to dispense with mar- ter of FINANCE be pleased to state: gin money. coflatera' security and/or third party guarantee for loans upto Rs. 35.000/- (8) the number of cases sent by the Dis- sanctioned for industrial ventures under trict Industry Centre of Surat to branches the Scheme. of· Bank of Baroda in Surat region during January, 1985 to March. 1987 for grant of (e) The guidelines issued by the Reserve loans for self employment to educated Bank of India for implementation of the unemployed and details thereof, scheme have already been sent by Bank of branchwise; Baroda to its Surat Regional Office. 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PATIL: Will the Minister (including Panvef and Uran) areas; of PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state: (b) if so. whether this facility has not been extended to emptoyees of nationa- (a) the targets fixed for various items lised banks working in New Bombay areas; under ~Point Programme for the year and 1987-88 and how do these compare with those of 1986-87; (c) if so, the reasons therefor? (b) whether States are given some incen- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tives for good performance; and DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MtNISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. (c) if so, the details thereof? GADHVI): (a) Ves, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). The House Rent Allowance MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- (HRA) payable to the employees of the TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF nationalised banks is determined by-the PROGRAMME ltv IMPLEMENTATION Bipartite Settlements entered into between (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) A Statement show- the managements and the unions of bank- ing the targets under the various items of ing industry and it is not necessarily linked the 2O-Point Programme during 19~87 with the terms and conditions of HRA pay- . and 1987-88 as also the variations in the abte to Central Govemment employees. At targets in the two years is given below. present H.R.A payable at specified rate to employees of nationatised banks posted at (b) No, Sir. offices located within the limits of Bombay Municipal Corporation (Greater Bombay) (c) Does Not arise. 313 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl Written Answers 314 (I) ...... ; eli \ + .... I c ...... o C\I o d ~ ~ CD c) ..... °cD , ...+ • + C\I + I ct ..~• I >.• 0» .10 ...... - ....~ . 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However, the outstanding balances in in Kerala in view of the recent closure of the Non-Resident (External) Rupee many of the private money lending institu- Accounts and Foreign Currency Non- tions in the State; and Resident Accounts of Non-Resident Indi- ans as a whole during the last three years (b) if so, the details thereof? are as follws:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- (Rtpees in Crores) \ HANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). Commer- cial banks, regional rural banks and As at end of Total cooperative credit institutions provide short term loans to farmers for agricultural activities. NABARD extends refinance December 1984 3502.87 assistance against the loans to farmers provided by these lending institutions December 1985 5027.88 including the ones located in Kerala. NABARD does not provide loans to farmers December 1986 7470.62 directly. The flow of bank credit for agricul- tural purposes in any particular State would depend upon various factors such (b) All the Investment facilities available as agro-climatic conditions, availability of to Resident Indians are also available to irrigation facilities and input material, mar- non-Resident Indians on their return to the ketability of produce, credit absorptive country for permanent settlement. capacity of the borrowers, conducive rec- overy climate etc. Statewise targets have Value Umlt of Personal Gold Jewellery for not been prescrit;>ed in respect of flow of Outgoing Indian Residents bank credit for short term agricultural purposes. 1654. SHRt C. MADHAV REDOI: Wtllthe Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Remltl8nce. of Aural and Semi-Urban (a) whether the limit for personal gold HAts jewellery for Indian residents going out of the country has been raised from Rs. 5,000 1653. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI to Rs. 10,000; KHAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the reasons therefor: and (a) the estimated remittances by the (c) the steps taken to stop likely misuse rural and semi-urban non-resident Indians of the provision? during the last three years, year-wise: and THE MINISTER OF STATE ~N THE (b) the existing facility provided by DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN Government for viable investments of their THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRr B. K. foreign exchange -ear(lings on their return GADHVI): (a) Yes, Sir. The value ~imit for 327 Written Answers ,AUGUST 6, 1987 ' Written Answers 328 taki ng out per_sonal jewellery made wholly (c) R&D work in the production of or mainly in gold by persons permanently monoclonal antibodies is being resident in India was raised to Rs. 10,000 in undert'aken in some laboratories/institutes December, 1982. in the country. However, R&D efforts are in early stages in India towards development (b) On account of the increase in the of genetic engineering based products. price of gold, customs were not able to allow Indian residents going abroad to Pesticides obtained 'rom Haem carry on their person within the financial limit as then existing, bonafide jewellery 1656. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Will the like Mangalsutras or Gold chains which PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: are traditionally worn by Indian ladies, without the permission of RBI. In order to (a) whether pesticides from Neem have avoid inconvenience to such travellers the been developed by Regional Research said value limit was raised. Laboratory. Hyderabad; (c) Government do not envisage any sig- (b) if so, how these are different from nificant misuse of the facility as the price of those developed by Indian Agricultural gold in India in relation to international Research Institute 20-30 years ago; price is very high. (c) whether Neem pesticides have come in the market; and Production of Proteins etc. by Genetic Engineering (d) if so, its total percentage as compared to other pestiCides in the 1655. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI : Will the market? PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (a) whether hormones, immuno- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proteins and enzymes and other proteins MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND are now being produced or likely to be TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF produced by using genetic engineering; STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC (b) if so, the details thereof; and ENERGY, ELECTRONtCS AND SPACE (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) the position of R&D units in India in the above area ot endeavour? (b) It was in 1962 that initial researches carried out at Indian Agri,cultural Research THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Institute (IARI) showed that water extract MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND and powder of neem seed kernels possess TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF insecticidal properties. Since then, work STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF on various aspects such as different OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC formulations and ,their bio-activity ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE spectrum against insects, isolation of (SHRI K. R., NARAYANAN): (a) and (b). active constituents extraction of various Ves, Sir; it is reported that genetiC fractions etc. has been continuing. engineering techniques have been sucessfully used for the production of Aegi~nal ,Research Laboratory (ARL), hormones, immunoproteins, enzymes and Hyderabad over a period of four years has other proteins (example: insulin) in concentrated to develop and standard,ise a advanced countries like the U.S.A. fraction having pesticidal activity. SCale up However, none is yet being produced in studi~s for large scale production. suitable India. formulation for aDDlication in fietd and 329 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers generation of necessary data is in progress THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at RRL. DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B. K. (c) No, Sir. No neem based pesticide has GADHVI): (a) The total value of been registered with Central Insecticide contraband goods seized under the Board. so far. Customs Act during January to June, 1987 is approximately Rs. l0926 lakhs. The . (d) Does not arise. goods seized mainly consists of gold, watches, synthetic fabrics, silver, Seizure of Contraband .Goods dangerous drugs and currency. 1657. SHRI SHANTAAAM NAIK: Will the Minister of FI NANCE be pleased to state: .... (b) The total value of goods seized at all the international airports in the country (a) the details and value of contraband during the period January to June, 1987 is goods seized under the Customs Act about As. 2162 lakhs. during the current year; (b) the value of goods seized at airports; and (c) The number of persons detained (c) the number of persons detained, under COFEPOSA Act, arrested, arrested, charge-sheeted, prosecuted prosecuted and convicted under the against and convicted during the above Customs Act during January to June, 1987 period? is given below:- Number of persons Number of Number of Number of detained under persons persons person. COFEPOSA arrested prosecuted convicted 441 1212 1483 457 Manufacture of Pocket Size TV Sets TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN ·THE DEPARTMENTS OF 1658. SHAI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN): (a) to (c). No, (a) whether the technology for Sir. manufacturing pocket size black and white television sets is available in the country; (d) Does nC?t arise. (b) whether any industrial units in the country are manufacturing the same; New Factories tor Mineral Sands (c) whether his Ministry have any plans 1659. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the PRIME to encourage manufacturers of pocket size MINISTER be pleased to state: TV sets; and (8) whether there are proposals under (d) if so, the details thereof? consideration of Union Government to establish new factories for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE manufacturing finished products out of the MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND mineral sands of the coastal villages of 331 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answers 332 Kerata and Kanyakumari district of Tamil (SHRI K. R. NARAYANAN): (a) Yes. Sir. Nadu;and (b) to (d). The Government of USSR has (b) if so, the details thereof? offered to assist India in the setting up of,· pressurised light water reactors using THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE enriched uranium. Discussions are MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND continuing on technical, economic and TECHNOLOGY AND MINIS!ER OF other aspects of the offer. STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF NAI AdvIeory group OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE 1661. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) Yes, Sir. SINHA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (b) During the course of preliminary studies conducted for extension of Indian (a) whether he had met several NRI Rare Earths Limited's Mining and Mineral scientists in the USA during his last visit to Separation activities, substantial mineral that country; deposits have been found in certain Districts of Tamil Nadu. Feasibility studies (b) if so, their views regarding technol- in respect of these deposits are in ogy flow into India; and progress. (c) whether they have agreed to set up Soviet Offer· for Nuclear Power Plant advisory groups to help secure the right type of technology for the country? 1660. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SINHA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CH. RAM PRAKASH: MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMI.C ENERGY•. Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. state: NARA YANAN): (a) to (c). There was no recent official visit of Prime Minister to (a) whether a delegation from Soviet U.S.A. However, during Prime Minister's to Union held discussion with the Indian U.S.A: in 1985, he had discussions with Atomic Energy Commission officials in N.R.I. scientists following which advisory mid July this year regarding Soviet offer of groups on Micro-electronics and Aeronau- nuclear power plants in India; tics were set up to facilitate the process of transfer of technology . . (b) whether Indian Government have accepted the Soviet offer; Cleaning of Ganges (c) if so, the details thereof; and 1662. DR. S.L. SHAILESH: Will the MIN- ISTER OF ENVIRONMENT AND (d) if not. the reasons therefor? FORESTS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the total expenditure incurred so far (a) whether Asian Development Bank in cleansing operations at these two places has agreed to examine India's suggestion and the likely amount to. be incurred dur- that the Bank should act as an interme- ing the residuary operations? diary through which large surpluses in Japan can be invested in Developing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE coiJ ntries; MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHAt Z.A. ANSARt): (a) As on (b) if so, the other suggestions that have 30th June. 1987, 19 schemes at a cost of been put forward by Indian Government at Rs. 24 crores- for Allahabad and 34 the Asian Development Bank conference; schemes at a cost of Rs. 45.77 crores in and Varanasi respectively have been .identified under Ganga Action Pian. Out of these, till (c) whether all the suggestions have 30th June, 1987, 13 schemes in Allahabad been examined by the Asian Development and 29 schemes in Varanasi at a cost of Rs. Bank and to what extent they have been 13.63 crores and Rs. 37 .97 crores respec- implemented ? tively have been sanctioned. Two schemes in Varanasi at a cost of As. 1.06 crores for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE renovation of the pumping station and DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN improvement to the sewage- farm at Ram- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt B.K. nagar have been completed. GADHVI): (a) to (c). Reference to the p0s- sibilityof ADS increasing its capital flows (b) In view of the ensuing Kumbh Meta. lhrough increased access to capital sur- important schemes for the diversion of pluses from Japan was made by the Japa- waste waters in the naUshs flowing into nese Governor in the Asian Development Yamuna and Ganga upstream of Sangam Bank at the time of the Annual Meeting in and for low cost sanitation are expected to Osaka in April this year. This mass sup- be completed before the Kumbh in Janu- ported by us. The ADS has since con- ary, 1989. Out of the 13 schemes sancti- cluded in June 87 an agreement with the oned, 4 schemes at a cost of Rs. 1.73 crores Exim Bank of Japan under which unitEd are expected to be completed in 1987-88 funds are available for projects financed by and another 7 schemes at a cost of Rs. 3.80 ADS from the Exim Bank of Japan. Other crores are expected to be completed in observatio'_ of ours essentially relate to 1988-89. loan administration matters and consulta- (c) An amount of As. 5.47 crores and Rs. tion on such matters is an ongoing pro- 9.24 crores have been released to the exe- cess with the Bank. cuting agencies till 30th June, 1987 for exe- cution of schemes in Allahabad & Varanasi respectively and the agencies intimated utilisation of an amount of As. 4.03 crores and Rs. 7.84 crores for execution of the 1664. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- schemes till 30th June, 1987. The total WARI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be expenditure on schemes in Allahabad is pleased to state: expected to be about Rs. 24 crores and in o Varanasi Rs. 45. n crores till the end of the (a) whether the Secretaries Committee 7th Five Year Pian. has strongly recommended grant of con- 1ndIa'...... tIona to AeIM cessional customs duty and liberal bank DeveIopIMnt Benko finance for reviving the light commercial vehicles industry; 1663. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- WARI: Will the MINISTER OF FINANCE (b) if so. the other recommendations made the Secretaries Committee; be pleased to state: by 335 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 336 (c) whether the ministry of Finance has [Translation] considered these recommendations; and Envlronmenbll clearence of proJecte In Uttar PrIIdeeh (d) by what time the recommendations 1665. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: \NiII the of the Secretaries Committee will be imple- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS mented and to what extent the commercial be pleased to state: vehicles industry will be benefiteCJ by them? (a) the total number of construction pro- jects in hilly areas of Uttar Pradesh pend- ing clearance for the last two months; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the details thereof; and OEPARTMENi OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. (c) the action taken for its earlier GADHVI): (a) to (d) : Certain proposals for clearance? giving relief to the light commercial vehi- cles industry were considered by the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government. Consequent to this, import MINISTRY OF ENV!RONMENT AND duty on components of light cOtnmercial FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and _vehicles, manufactured under a phased (b). Six hydroelectric projects in hilly areas manufacturing programme, was reduced of Uttar Pradesh have been pending envir- from 50% to 35% with effect from 20th May, onmental clearance for the last two 1987. This, coupled with the excise duty months and longer. The details are given in concession already given in December, Statement-J below. -The details of seven- 1986, gave adequate relief to the light com- teen construction projects pending fcrests mercial vehicles industry. clearance are given in Statement-II given below. (c) All these cases are pending for the receipt of essential details from the State There is no proposal at present for giv- Government who have been requested to ing liberal bank finance to this industry. furnish these early. 337 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 338 ai c ::l as (1)- "0 C £'g as C as 0) CD as c Q) 0 ~;:: "C Q) Q) C c .0 as c en 2 CD E g ;:; CD ::l c "0 as .¥ (,) it: ::l c a; c E en .2 - ea E it: c o ..:.:... a; o - U; "ii~ ~ i.... .E (1)"0 c I- 0) o ::l o c: .E ea o i::l as ~ III =c ~ ->- « C ... 0) ...o Q .E~ Cii c:Q) ;; E _"0 (I) CD as c c E E E U) ::l Q) ,s=. ... .r:. o ... a. U o (,) Q.(I) a; O,s=. E -.E as o I U a; u ~o... - U o c "0 o I E "0 «"0 cO. N CD "CD co as U o! t; Q) "0' ~ CL. o -~ (,) t; -CD CD uCD "ii "e "0 ....o CL. 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SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the time. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: [Transl'ation] (a) whether it is a fact that number of officers/award staff (cash & clerical) of the Transfer of officers in State Bank of State Bank of Indore, have managed to Sikaner & Jalpur stay in its branches in 'Indore-City' Bhopal, Jabalpur and Delhi, for more than the pres- 1667. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the cribed limit: Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of the officers/clerks/ (a) the number of high officers trans- cashiers (branch-wise) alongwith the ferred from Jaipur head office· of State period of their over-stay in the same city, Bank of Bikaner & Jaipur to the head office including the reasons in each case; and of a"other subsidiary bank of State Bank of India in Madhya Pradesh; (c) the remedial steps Government pro- pose to take to implement its new transfer (b) if so, the number of these officers; policy? and (c) whether this new transfer policy is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE likely to help in reducing the number of MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- cases of bungling? HANA POOJARY): (a) Government have issued guidelines for rotation of officers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE every 3 years and of award staff every 5 MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- years posted in branches/offices. State HANA POOJARY): (a) None, Sir. Bank of Indore has advised that they have started implementing these instructions (b) and (c). Do not arise. and officers are normally transferred with the stipulated period. However, in some [English] cases, they are allowed to stay more than the stipulated period at one assignment Scheme for Minimum Needs Programme due to administrative exegencies or in con- in A.P. sideration of genuine difficulties being faced by certain officers. The change in the 1668. SHRIMATI N.P. JHANSI assignment may be in the same centre or LAKSHMI: to an outside station. In the case of award- SHAI T. BALA GOUD: staff, transfers are generally made within the same centre/Municipal/Urban agglp- Will the Minister of PLANNING be meration area except when they them- pleased to state: selves express. willingness to be {a} the amount sanctioned to Andhra transferred to some other centre or are Pradesh to implement the schemes pre- considered for incadre promotion. Some- pared under the Minimum Needs Pro- times they are transferred to outside cen- gramme (MNP) in 1985-86 and 1986-87, tres due to administrative exegencies also. and the amount earmarked for the year 1987-88; and (b) Since no period has been stipulated for stay in the same city, the question of (b) the amount actually utilised in 19S5: overstaying in a city does not arise. 86 and 1986-87? . 349 ·Written Answers SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 350 THE MINISTER OF STATE· IN THE (a) whether Government propose to MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- have a fresh look and streamline the imple- TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF mentation and monitoring of 2O-Point Pro- PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION gramme; and (SHRI SUKH RAM) : (a) The approved out- lays for Andhra Pradesh to implement the (b) if so, the details there.of? scheme6 under the Minimum Needs Pro- gramme in the State Sector during 1985- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 86, 1986-87, and· 1987-88 are Rs. 9931, Rs. MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- 11706 and Rs. 14059 lakhs respectively. TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (b) The amount actually utilised in the (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). A fresh State Sector during 1985-86 and 1986-87 look at the 2O-Point Programme was taken and the restructured 2(}-Point Programme- are Rs. 10610.54 and Rs. 14968.16 lakhs (Provisional) respectively. 1986 is being implemented from 1.4.1987 alongwith Annual Plan 1987-88. Further, Raids on Delhi Stock Brokers in Government have also set up a high July, 1987 powered AdviSOry Council on the imple- 1669. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: mentation of 2Q-Point Programme to Will the Minister of FlNANCE be pleased to advise on (a) improvement in 2Q-Point state: implementation systems and (b) organisa- tional development. , (a) whether attention of Government has been drawn to the news item captioned Co-operative Credits "Raids indicate big black money opera- tions" appearing in the Indian Express 1671. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE dated 9 July, 1987; and PATIL: SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI: (b) if so, details thereof? Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B:K. (a) whether the progress in disburse- GADHVI): (a) Yes, Sir.. ment of co-operative credits has been much below the Seventh Five Year Plan (b) The Income-tax Department con- expectations: ducted searches at the premises of cer:tain financiers, financial consultants and (b) if so, reasons therefor; and share-brokers of Delhi in July. 1987 whe- rein prima-facie unaccounted assets such (c) the steps proposed to be taken by as cash, jewellery and share certificates Government in this regard? were seized to the tune of over As. 37.32 lakhs. During the course of search the dif- ferent assesses h·ave admitted conceal- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment of Rs. 12 lakhs. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt JANARD- HANA POOJARY) : (a) There had been mar- Streamlining of 20-Point Programme ginal shortfalls in the disbursement of credit from the Cooperative credit institu- 1670. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE tions during the first two years of the Sev- PATIL: enth Plan period. During 1985-86 against SHAt PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: the target of Rs. 3752 crore the disburse- Will the Minister of PROGRAMME ment was about Rs. 3206 crore. During IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state: 1986-87 a~ainst the target of Rs. 4,000 351 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Answers 352 crore. the estimated disbursement is (i) limitation of financial resources. around Rs. 3500 crore. (ii) lack of infrastructural facilities in (b) The continued existence of high level rural and backward areas. of overdues have been identified. as the major constraint in the expansion of credit. (iii) General resistance to change due to low literacy rate and this (c) The State Governments and the traditional factors. Cooperative credit institutions have been advised from time to time to bring about (iv) Absence of motivated voluntary "reduction in the level of overdues and also organisations for propagating other appropriate measures for increasing and taking" up the Science & the flow of credit to farmers. Technology applications for the benefit of weaker sections. Benefit of Science and Technology (v) . the knowledge gap between 1672. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the PRIME target groups, voluntary agen- MINISTER be pleased to state: cies and the Government agencies. (a) whether in spite of various measures taken. real impact and benefit of science Various corrective steps are taken by the and technology have not reached the var- Govern ment from ti me to ti me to over- ious strata of our society especially the come the constraints/deficiencies in the weaker sections of the society; and way of speedier transmission of the benef- its of science and technology to all strata of (b) if so, the steps taken or proposed to our society. The review in matters like this take in this regard? is a continuous process and this is pursued with utmost vigour. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Pollution of Yamuna rtver MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN 1673. SHAI AAM PYAAE PANIKA: Will THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, FORESTS be pleased to state: ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRt K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) and (b). It will not be (a) whether any programmes have been correct to say that the benefits of science drawn up for preventing the pollution 01 and technology have not reached the waters of river Yamuna near Delhi caused vaious strata of our society. Scientific and by . the flow of sewage and industrial technological inputs in the fields of agricul- wastes from the 'nullahs' of the city; and ture. med't;ine, health, industry, education and other areas have been some of the (b) if so, funds provided for the purpose important factors responsible for the and the progress made in the matter? improvement in the general quality of life of different strata of our society increase in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the per capita income, rise in the literacy MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND rate and average life. expectancy of our FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) ~ (a) Yes, people. A number of measures have been Sir. taken to ensure that the benefits of science and technology reach the weaker sec- (b) The total outlay for the Union Terri- tiOns of our society; however the impact tory of Delhi during the Seventh Five Year has been somewhat limited due to various Plan for urban sanitation is Rs. 140.23 constraints, some of which are- ~rores. 353 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 354 The progress made so far in this regard ment Information Systems (MIS) for is shown below: decision making. The government officers and staff have taken to computerisation 1. Out of the 17 major drains f~lIing quite well and have seen it as a tool which Into the river Yaniuna (i) 7 drains facilitates their day-to-day working. The \ have been totally intercepted; (ii) required data is now more readily available sullage from 3 drains has been as well as formats amenable for decision substantially trapped at source; making. and (iii) Oxidation pond treat- ment has been provided for dis- (b) Yes, Sir. The use of computer based charge from 3 drains. information systems has helped in improv- !ng the efficiency of administration in the 2. Capacity of existing sewage government departments. treatment plants and pumping stations has been augmented. (c) At this statge, it is difficult to quantify the extent to which efficiency of adminis_- 3. Branched sewers for diversion of tration has improved. However, the gen- waste waters away from the erat qualitative improvement can be felt in Yamuna have been laid. decision making wherever MIS are operational. SUitability of computers in Government offices (d) and (e). The introduction of this tech- nology has saved the administration lot of 1674. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will the time which was earlier routinely required PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: for culling out relevant information from a large number of files for decision making. (a) the experience of the Union Govern- Data once entered and stored in the com- ment in working of computers in Govern- puter system is readily retrievable in any ment offices; format. thus resulting in saving of time. However, there has been no net saving in (b) whether this new technology has terms of manpower because of introduc- helped the Government in improving the tion of computers. efficiency of its administration; (c) if so, to what extent; Social Forestry Scheme (d) whether this system has resulted in 1675. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the reduction in cost of administration; and Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (e) if so, in what matter? (a) the significant features of Social THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Forestry: and MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) the steps taken to create awareness THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN among the people on Social Forestry for DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, the benefit of the community? ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NARAYANAN): (a) The experience of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- THE Union Government in working of compu- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ters has been verY good. National Infor- FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) The matics Cenlre (NrC) has installed significant features of Social Forestry are computer terminals in the various govern- meeting the needs of the rural people in ment departments for providing Manage- respect of fuelwood and fodder. 355 Written Answers AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 356 (b) -Steps have been taken to create -(b) whether any inquiry has been made awareness among the people by emphas- into the maHer; . ising peoples involvement in Social Fore- stry through nursery raising, farm forestry, (c:;) in how many cases SCI ships have fuel wood and fodder plantation on com- been found involved in smuggling in the mon lands. promotion of tree grower's last one year; and Cooperatives, tree pattas, training, exten- sion and publicity etc. (d) If so, the action taken against the officers responsible for it? Customs .-.houslng stillion III ~ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1676. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B~K. state: GADHVI): (a) Reports received by the Government and seizures made indicate (a) whether the Customs-warehousing that some of the crew and officers of ships station at Bhubaneswar has started .. of Shipping Corporation of India have functioning; been found involved in smuggling of con- traband goods into the country. (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and .(b) Each case' of smuggling of contra- (c) by which time the customs bonded band goods through Shipping Corpora- warehouSe at Bhubaneswar is expected tion of India vessels is investigated by the to be operated? Customs authorities for taking appropriate action under the law. Ministry of ' Surface THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Transport has constituted a high level MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- Committee under the Chairmanship of HANA POOJARY): (a) A public bonded Director General. Shipping, to look into warehouse set up by the Central Ware- such type of smuggling activities and housin$l Corporation has started function- recommend appropriate remedial ing at Bhubaneswar with effect from measures. 1.12.1986. (c) During the period from July, 1986 to (b) and (c). Do not arise. June, 1987, some of the crew members and officers of 17 ships of Shipping Corpo- Involvement of shipe of ShIppIng C0rpo- ration of India have been found to be ration of India In smuggling involved in smuggling of contraband. (d) Department adjudication was 1677. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: resorted to in all cases. Furthermore. in . SHRI MANIK REDDY: suitable cases prosecution proceedings are SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH also initiated. The Shipping Corporation of MALIK: - India management is also informed to ena- SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: ble suitable disciplinary action. SHAI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to .tate:~ 1678. SHRt SUBHASH YADAV: SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDOY: (c) Government have reviewed the SHRI MANIK REDDY: implementation of the Scheme in the Union Territory of Delhi and have drawn Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased the attention of its Administration to var- to state: ious critical areas on which further action is necessary. The Insurance Company has (a) whether the attention of Government also been advised to increase its publicity has been. drawn to the news item capti- for bette~ understanding & propagation of oned 'Insurance Scheme for poor fails in the Scheme. The following steps have Delhi' appearing in the Indian Express of been taken: 1st July, 1987; (i) Distribution of posters, leaflets (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and and booklets. (c) the steps being contemplated by (ii) Talks on Akashwani. Government to make success of this (iii) Campaign through Press. scheme in the capital? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (iv) Seminars are also being orga- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAAD- nised to familiarise field workers HANA POOJAAY): (a) and (b). Govern-· responsi ble for its implementa- ment have taken note of the ·Press report. tion on different aspects of this appearing in the Indian Express on 1.7.87. Scheme. A Personal Accident Insurance Social Security Scheme was introduced in the Agency to deal with incnIasIng lnci- country in certain selected districts includ- dence of bank fraud ing the Union Territory of Delhi with effect from 15th August. 1985. According to the 1679. SHRt BASUOEB ACHARIA: Will Scheme, applications for compensation in the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to the case of accidental death of earning state: members of poor families, are to be made on prescribed forms to the Claims (b) whether it is due to bypasSing the (d) whether any of the nationalised banks in the flow of funds between the banks have since set up any Mutual Funds savers and users of savings; and the exact details thereof? (c) ~f so, whether Government propose THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to curb this; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE CSHRI JANARD- HANA POOJARY): (d) if so, steps taken in this ~egard? Ca) and Cb). In exercise of the powers· conferred on it under section 6(1) CO) of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Banking Regulation Act. 1949, Central MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- Government has issued a notification on HANA POOJARY): (8) to (d). There is no 29th June. 1987 specifying the setting up indication to show that the profits and prof- or establishing and conducting a "Mutual itability of public sector banks would be on Fund" as a form of business in which it is the decline. The published profits of the 28 lawful for a banking company to engage public sector banks in 1986 were 63% itself in. A copy of the notification indicat- higher than the profits in 1985. Similarly. ing the flature of business in which a bank- the profitabitity of 28 public sector banks. ing company can engage itself- in terms i.e. the published profits as a percentage of of the above notification is laid on the working funds has also increased from Table of the House. [Placed tn Library. See 0.11 in 1985 to 0.15 in 1986. No. L T -4590/87.] The mobilisation of deposits by sche- (c) and Cd). State Bank of India has duled commercial banks during the cur- initiated certain steps for the conduct of rent year has been satisfactory and the business permitted under the above therefore the question of profitability of notification. banks being affected on account of funds not coming to the banking system would Canara BanK has submitted a request to not arise. Reserve Bank of India for permitting it to set up a "Mutual Fund" business. No other bank has. as yet. set up a Mutual Fund. 1881. PROF. NARAIN CHAND TIger and Leopard population PARASHAR: SHRI P.R.S. VENKATESAN: 1682. SHAI SOMNATH RATH : Will the SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARA- Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: FORESTS be pleased to state : Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) how many tigers live in forests and to state: parks in India, State and Union Territory- (a) whether the Banking Companies Act wise; . has been amended by Government for the setting up of Mutual Funds by Banking (b) whether the tiger population has Companies as a legal activity in 1987 ; increased since last five years; (b) if 80. the details of the amendments Cc) how many white tigers are found in made in the Act and its scope alongwith India and where; the functions and purposes for which mut- ual funds would be used; (d) whether leopard is an extinct spe- cies; and (c) whether State Bank of India and Csn- are Bank have approached the Reserve (~) if so. the steps taken to increase their Bank of India to set up Mutual Funds: and numbers? 361 Written Answers ,SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answem 362 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE compared to the previous enumeration in MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND 1979. FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) . According to the 1984 enumeration, there (c) No white tigers are reported in the were 4005 tigers in the wild in India includ- wild in India. The zoos of the country have ing those in the national parks. State and a population of 34 white tigers. Union Territory-wise numbers are given in " the Statement below. (d) No, Sir. (b) This shows an increase of 990 as (e) Question does not arise. STATEMENT TIGER ENUMERA TION 1984 State/Union Territory wise break up of population S. State Male Female Cubs Sex Total No. unknown 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1. Andhra Pradesh 80 81 20 23 184 2. Arunachal Pradesh 85 96 37 1 219 3. Assam 141 182 44 9 376 4. Bihar 54 83 21 138 5. Goa 8. Qujarat 2 3 9 7. Haryan a 1 1 8. Himachal Pradesh NIL 9. Jammu & Kashmir NIL 10. Karnataka 73 94 35 202 11. Kerala 39 39 11 89 12. Madhya Pradesh 255 130 37 786 13. Maharashtra 140 102 17 301 14. Man'pur "8 8 15. Meghalaya 57 55 10 3 125 18. Mizoram 12 5 7 8 33 17. Nagaland 27 27 8 104 18. 0rI_ 74 107 21 202 383 Written AnsW8f'S AUGUST 6, 1987 Wr/ttfIn Answeta 364 1 2 3 4 5 1 18. Punjab NIL 20. Rajuthan 50 33 13 • 21. Slkklm 1 1 2 22. Tamil Nadu 31 29 8 29 97 23. Trlpura 2 3 5 24. Uttar Pradesh 298 338 898 25. West Bengal 175 149 19 9 352 Union Territory 1. Andaman & Nlcob8r NIL .slands 2. Chandigarh • NIL 3. Daman & Diu NIL 4. Dadra & Nagar Haveli NIL 5. Delhi NIL 8. Lakshadweep NIL 7. Pondicherry NIL Total: 1579 1747 491 188 4005 Etfecthe fIMIctIonkIg of Dlalrlct Planning Government that District Planning Boards Boards In Orissa as yet have no authority in deci- sion making except endorsing the propos- 1683. SHR' SOMNATH RATH: Will the als of other agencies functioning in the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: district such as DRDA, DOB etc.: and (a) whether the District Planning Boards (e) If so, the steps proposed to make,the tiave been aet up as the appex Planning District Planning Boards to function. body at the district level to oversee all mat- effectively? .,. relating to the District Planning includ- Ing monitoring and follow up action; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY' OF PLANNING AND MIN'S- (b) if so, the steps taken to make the TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DIstrIct Plan\'ing Boards viable; PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (SHRI SUKH RAM): As per the availa- (c) whether District Planning Boards ble information, District Planning Bodies, NNe been endowed with autonomy in the variously known as District Planning local decision makl(lG; ~dslDistrict Planning and Develop- ment Councils/DIstrict Planning Commlt- Cd) whether it has come to notice of the t ••a/Councils/District Development' 365 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 366 Boards/Committees/Councils etc., have (b) No detailed survey has been carried been set up In all the Stat_ except Tripur. out. and Go. for approving, monitoring and nwlewlng the Implementation of district (c) Does not arise. achemes. ~ (b) and (c). Central Govt. is assisting the Stat_ to set up/strengthen district plan- 1685. SPrRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Min- ning machinery by inducting subject mat- ister of FINANCE be pleased to state: ter specialists. This machinery acts as the technical wing of the DisH. Planning (a) whether an agreement between India Boards. In several States, 'united funds', and Japan has been reached to provide which these Boardll can use at their discre- loan to India; tion, have been earmarked for diBtt. plan- - ning. In June, 1982. the Planning (b) if so, the amount of the loan to be Commission had advised the States, inter given and the terms and conditions alia, to effect functional and financial thereof; decentralisation. (c) the purpose for which thefundwill be (d) and (e). As Informed by the State utilised in the States; Government, in OrIssa District Planning - Boards headed by a Minister have been.set (d) the am.ount out of the fund to be up and these Boards act as Apex Planning given to Andhra Pradesh and time by Body. They are entrusted with the respon- which it will be given and the purpose for sibility to oversee plan formulation and which it will be given; and monitor the District Plans. 'United funda' have been provided for SQm8 Immediate (e) the extent to which it will help the local needs or filling some 8888f1tial gape poor, tribals and backward prople in the In social and infrastructural sectors. State to improve their conditions? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DeveIopm.nt 0' ChIIU Uk. DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. 1684. SHRI SOMNA"tH RATH: Will the GADHVI): (8) to (e). For the year 1987-88 Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS seven projects have been posed for annual be pleased to state: bilateral loan assistance from Japan. These projects are (1) Srisailarn Left Bank (a) the area of Chilka lake Sanctuary in Hydro Electric Power Station Project in Orissa; Andhra Pradesh (2) Purulia Pumped Stor- age Scheme in West Bengal (3) Anpara -B' (b) whether it has been reduced; and Thermal Power Project in Uttar Pradesh (4) Assam Gas Based Power Station and (c) if so, reason thereof? Transmission Une Construction Project in Assam (5) Setting up of High Technology Functional Industrial Estates in Tamil THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Nadu (6) Malanjkhand Copper Develop- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ment Project of ·Hindustan Copper Limited FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) in Madhya Pradesh and (7) Telecommuni- According to the 'State Government of cation Project (X). The total amount of Orissa, the waterspread area of the Chilka assistance requested under the annual lake has been assessed ~ 1165 sq. kms. bilateral aid programme is Yen 85 BiHion during the rains and 960 sq. kms. during (equivalent to As. 755.53 erores approxi- the summer. mately). The pledge of Japanese loan 367 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Answers 368 assistance to India for ~ 987i 88 is expected pleased to state:' to be announced shortly. The amount of loan assistance to be extended by Japa!, to (a) whether the Directorate of Revenue India for 1987-88 will be known only after Intelligence has conducted raids on the pledge of assistance is announced by . cigarette manufacturing companies, their I the Government of Japan. Formal agree- dealers and distributors and found that ments would be signed only after that. some of the cigarette manufacturing com- panies are evading taxes to the tune of The loan assistance for the year 1987-88 several hundreds of, crores of rupees; will be repayabfe over a period of 30 years including a grace period of 10 years and (b) if so, the details thereof for the last carry an interest rate of 2.75 per cent per three years; and annum. -(c) the action taken against the erring For the Srisailam Left Bank Hydro Elect- companies during the last three years? ric Project in Andhra Pradesh a loan ass i- tance of Yen 25 Billion equivalent to As. 222.22 crores approxi mately has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE requested for procurement, installation MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- and commissioning of 9 Units (reversible) HAN A POOJARY) : (a) and (b). The Direc- of 110 MW each on the Srisailam Dam on torate of Revenue Intelligence and the the river Krishna. The loan assistance of Directorate of Anti-evasion (Central Yen 25 Billion is proposed to be utilised Excise) have conducted searches on pre- over a period of 7 years from 1987-88 to mises of Cigarette manufacturing compan- 1993-94. ies, their dealers and distributors and have detected evasion of central excise duty. The additional power supply from this The details' of such cases for the years project will result in increased industrial 1985, 1986 and 1987 (upto July, 1987) are and agricultural production, creation of given in Statement given below. employment opportunities, additional domestic lighting etc. in the State. (c) Show cause notices have been issued in all the above cases inter alia DRI Raids on CIgarette Companies invoking pen~1 provisions and progress of adjudication in all cases is being moni- 1686. SHRt V. SOBHANADREESWAAA tored at the level of Central Board of Excise RAO: Will the Minister of FINANCE be and Customs. 369 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 370 s:::;CD 't)- Ii Ias i u "08-£ _ as 0 =sgc_ Ias 0) t!~ U 8,0 00. '0 c ! -c:: o ~ ~I :::s ~o. 'ii > ~I ~~ii cri."j."jai ari":MC\i N NN i aD N..... >- c: If ! 1: "0 E 1; c 0 :::::J • as u "Ot! c CD -0 ! -s:::; :i 00 cj I! '0- "':"0·c ,_; CJ • s:::;• E• Z 0 ! ~~ ~ 2:i ~ iii - - w ·371 Written Answem AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Ans~ 372 I I o o .!! c c CD U I I ;: o c :::J =as u ~ .c eft CD ~ ...... CD CD CD c\i N N ,..: ,..: ,..: 'P"' 'P"' 'P"' ~ .cCD Q c :::J 2 ~c ca o ...: f ~.! 20 373 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 374 ( Raids on Pram.... of Sante Exporters Government had in 1984 appointed a ·In Bombay High Powered Committee under the chair- manship of Shri G.S. Pate! whose report 1687. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR tRI- has been received and decisions taken on PATHI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be most of the recommendations. These pleased to state: relate to various aspects of the capital market. (a) whether Income Tax Department had conducted raids on the premises of Government have also decided to set up Saree Exporters of Bombay during the past a separate Board for the regulation and two months; • orderly functioning of the stock exchanges and the securities industri. (b) if so, whether some undeclared stock of goods was recovered from the premises The Planning Commission has recently of Saree exporters; and set up a high level working Group on Development of Capital Market which will (c) if so, details thereof and the action also address itself to the problems and taken by Govern'ment against them? issues pertaining to the capital market. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ,Delay in Environmental Clearance DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt B.K. 1689. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA GADHVI): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The MURTY: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- Income-tax Department had conducted MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: searches at the premises of one Saree Exporter of Bombay in May, 1987. No (a) whether Union Government has undeclared stock of goods were found. given its clearance for the construction of 35 Km tunnel through the Nagarjunasagar (c) I~ view of (a) and (b) above, the ques- tiger reserve which forms part of Srisailam tion does not arise, Left Bank Canal Project to carry the Krishna water to the perenially dry areas of Stability In capital melttet Rayalaseema; and 1688. SHRt BHATTAM SRIRAMA (b) if not, the reasons therefor? MURTY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (a) whether Government have prepared FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) No. any scheme to go into the problems of the Sir. capital market in order to provide it stabil- ity and security for genuine investors; and (b) The requiSite details have not been received from the State Government. (b) if so, the details thereof? Progress In research in use of Sanskrit THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN 1690. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the PRIME THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. MINISTER be pleased to state: GADHVI): (a) and (b). Taking measures for the development of the capital market (a) the progress made so far in research. and to resolve its problems is an ongoing if any. by Department of Electronics about exercise and suitable steps are taken from Sanskrit being a. natura. language and also time to time to provide it stability and being fit to serve as a computer language security for genuine investors. for Artific~1 Intelligence; 375 Written AIJ8WfHS AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answet3 376 (b) the outline for further research; and Prompt response to lett.... from Members of Parliament (c) the kind of coordination and cooper- ation being sought from the Department of 1691. SHRt KAMLA PRASAD SINGH· '_' Sanskrit of the Ministry of Education and Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased t~ the outcome thereof? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether it is obligatory on the part of MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- all Governmental agenCies/departments NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN to respond to the letters of the Members of THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN Parliament; 'DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. (b) if so, the details of instructions issued NARAYANAN): (a) The Department of in this regard; and Electronics has launched "Knowledge Based Computer System/Fifth Generation (c) the steps taken to ensure prompt Computer Systems" (KBCS/FGCS) pro- acknowledgement and early disposal of ject during Seventh Plan period to carry the letters from legislators? out research and development in the front- ier are~ of computer engineering. Under THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- this project, six nodal centres have been ISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIE- set up with Tata Institute of Fundamental VANCES AND PENSIONS: (SHRI BIREN Research, Bombay, National Centre 'for SINGH ENGTI) : (a) All the letters received Software Technology (NCST). Bombay, from the Members of Parliament are Indian Statistical Institute, Calcutta, Indian required to be replied to ,by the ministries/ Institute of Science, BangaJore, Indian depart~ents of the Central Government. Institute of Technotogy, Madras and Department of Electronics, New Delhi. The (b) and (c). Information in this regard is r8search in the field of Natural Language given in the Statement below. for computers is being conducted at STATEMENT NeST, Bombay. The p,ovi8Jolt6 ,.,.'ilfg to correspondence (b) As an aU&mpt to -giw thru$t, f~ , iF. ~j~}.A"'_~~91 P"fi8trtt1fJ~ ,are contained,in ~rcIt in.thiS field 'Natiohal Conterengelq", palas-...s and 45 of the Central Sec,*tllt;at' of Knowledge Representation and Infer- Manual of Office Procedure (9th Edition) enoe in Samskritam' was organised at Ban- which ~e reproduced below: galore d~rjng December 20-22. 1986. This conference was attended by experts from '·43. Correspondence with Membera of India and abroad in the fields of compu", ~rliament. sci~ce, Linguistics and Education.', The (1) Communlcattene received fro", expertise of Sanskrit scholars is, being , Membe1'8 of Partiament should be sought under the FGCS/KBCS programme attended to promptly. through the nodal centres as -detailed above. The research work is being coordi- (2) Where a communitation Is nated by Department of Electronics. addressed to a Minister, it 'should. a. far 'as practICable, be replied to by the Minister him.. ". In other (e) Coordination and cooperation of cases. a reply shoukt normaf.y be organlsatiqns under Ministry of Human issued over the .tonatuN of an Resource Developmenl (HRD) were officer not below the rank of Joint sought and received by the abOve menti- Secretary. ' oned confere~. Future plani In this area wilt be coordinated with Ministry of Human (3) Where. however, a communication , Resource Development. is addressed to the head of an att- 377 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 378 ached C)r subordinate office, it reply will normally be issued over should 'be replied to by the addres- the signature of an officer not below see himself. In routine matters not the rank of Joint Secretary. involving question of poficy he may send an appropriate reply on his 14.9.3 Normally, any inform.ation which own. In matters Involving question will not be denied to a member on of policy, however, the officer the floor of the House, will be supp- 'should have prior consultation with lied to him in case he seeks it direct. higher authorities before sending a reply. 14.9.4 There is no obligation to disclose secret information to a member. II (4) Normally information sought by a Member should be supplied unless 3. In order to ensure that prompt reply is it is of such a nature that it would furnished to letters from Members of Parlia- have been denied to him even if ment, supervising officers have been asked for on the floor of the House enjoined to regularly watch action on cO,m- of Parliament. munications received from Members of Parli- ament and to ensure their expeditious (5) As far as possible, in corresponding disposal. with Members of Parliament, pre- printed or cyclostyled replies New scheme In place of Income tax should be avoided. amnesty scheme Acknowledgements and interim 45. 1692. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: replies Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (1) All communications from Members state: of Parliament, recognised associa- tions, public bodies and members (a) whether the response to the Amnesty of the public generally which can- Scheme· for Income Tax was not satis- not be answered promptly will be aeknowledged suitably. If any such factory; communication is wrongly addr8ssed to a department, it will be trans- <1» if so, the details thereof and the rea- ferred promptly to the appropriate sons therefor, department under intimation to the .. party eencetned. ' ~ . : te)., .. whettfer Goverriment ~ 10 introduce a new scheme in place of (2) In all other ca_s in which delay ,. anticipated in sending out a flnat recently ended Income Tax Amnesty reply, an interim reply will be ..ntto Scheme~ and the party concerned at the ..rHeat possible stage, indicating where~ (d) if so. the details thereof? po•• ible the approximate date by which a final reply may be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE expected. " DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN TI-iE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt B.K. GADHVI) : (a) The response to the 2. The Manual for Handling Parliamentary Amnesty Scheme for Income Tax was Work in Ministries also provides as follows: satisfactory. "14.9.1 Communications received from a (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. member will be del dad to promptty. 14.9.2 Where a communication is addres.. (c) There is no such proposal under sed to a Minister. it will aa far as coRsideration. practicable. be replied to by the Minister himself. In other cases, a (d) Does not arise in view of (c) above. 379 Written AnsW818 AUGUST 6,1987 . Written Answers 380 Chan.. In NucI..,. Energy Progremme (e) whether many multinational com- panies hawe shown·interest to instal their 1693. SHAI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- units in India to manufacture CTVs and CHANDRAN: Will the PRIME MINISTER supply them at cheaper rates than the be pleased to state: existing rates; and (a) whether any change in the Nuclear (f) if so, the reaction of the Government Energy Programme is contemplated by thereto? the Government; (b) whether any expert committee has THE ~INISTER OF STATE IN THE been constituted to study and recommend MINI~TRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- changes in the Nuclear Energy Pro- NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN gramme of the country; and THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, (cj if so, the details thereof? ELECTRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R.NARAYANAN): (a) and (b). The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nanles of the public and private sector MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECH- units manufacturing CTV sets and the NOLOGY AND MINISTER OF STATE IN . number of CTV sets manufactured by THE DEPARTMENTS OF OCEAN DEVE- them during 1986 is given in Statement LOPMENT, ATOMIC ENERGY, ELEC- below. TRONICS AND SPACE (SHRI K.R. NA- RAYANAN): (a) No, Sir. (c) A 'Janta' model Colour Television can be considered to be a low priced (b) No, Sir. functional CTV with only essential features. (c) Does not arise. Electronics Trade & Technology Deve- Manufacture of eTV sets in Public and lopmment Corporation (ET&T), a public Private Sector In the country sector undertaking under their 'Material Technology Brand Name' (MTB) pro- 1694. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: gramme is providing help to industry to SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: produce such type of CTV sets based on Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to their design by supplying material pro- state: cured by them in bulk along wIth neces- sary support for assembly, testing and (a) the names of the public sector and quality control. private sector units which are manufactur- ing CTV sets in the country; (d) The ex-factory sale price (inclusive of excise duty of Rs. 1500 and an additional (b) the number of CTV sets manufac- excise duty of Rs. 100 in lieu of broadcast tured by each unit annually: receiver licensing fee) of such CTV sets is Rs. 6050 (for set using turret tuner) and Rs. (c) whether Government have any piAn 6400 (for set using electronic tuner). Local to manufacture 'JANTA' model CTV in taxes as applicable are additional. public sector so that the common man can . atso purchase it; (e) No, Sir. (d) if so, what will be the price; (f) Does not arise. 381 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) ,Written Answers 382 STATEMENT Production for the Year 1986 SI. No. Name of the manufacturer Qty. 1 2 3. Public Sector Units 1. Central Electronics Ltd., Sahibabad 1,200 2. Electronics Corporation of India Ltd., Hyderabad 46,832 3. Goa Electronics Ltd., Mapusa 880. 4. Haryana Television Ltd., Faridabad 15 5. Kerala State Electronics Dev.Corpn.Ltd., Trivandrum 16,013 6. Konark Televisi0r:t Ltd., Bhubaneshwar 13.891 7. Rajasthan Electronics Ltd., Jaipur 725 8. Sidkal Television Ltd., Trivandrum 367 9. UPTRON India Ltd., Lucknow 25,917 10. WEBEL NICCO Electronics ltd., Calcutta 3,000 Private Sector Units 11. 21 st Centuary Electronics Pvt. ltd., New Delhi 1,021 12. A K G Electronics Pvt. ltd., Ghaziabad 1.605 13. Acharya Electronics Ltd., Nagpur 50 14. Altravision Electronics, Palghat 1 15. Ananya Electronics Ltd., New Delhi 2 16. Aryan Electronic Systems, Pvt. Ltd., Bhopal 20 17. Atari Electronics, Calcutta 2,419 18. Atlas Engineering Works Pvt. Ltd., Bhubaneshwar 380 19. Band B Electronics Pvt. ltd .• New Delhi 2,083 20. Beltek Electronics Pvt. Ltd .• New Delhi 16,407 21. Bharat Television Ltd., Secunderabad 1.024 ·22. Binatone Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Sahibabad 18,821 23. Bosten Electronics Pvt. ltd., Calcutta 720 24. British Physical Laboratories India Ltd .• Bangalore 28.082 ~ Written AnsW81S AUGUST 6. 1987 Written- Answers 384 1 2 3 40. British Physical Laboratories India Ltd .• Palghat 15.778 26. Calcom Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Delhi 3,340 27. Canon Electronics Pvt. ltd., Delhi 847 28. Cauvary Electronics Pvt. ltd., Bombay 9,519 29. Chroma Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Halo' (Taluk) 438 30. Contel Vision Pvt. Ltd., Kashmir 2,008 31. Continental Device India Ltd., Faridabad 639 32. Cosmic Electronics, Vadodara 578 33. Cosmic Radios, Bombay 995 34. Creative Handicrafts, New Delhi 12.. 196 35. Damodar Electronics & Controls, Cochin 3,738 36. Darpan Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Trivandrum 1,324 37. Oass Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Dehradun 11 38. Deepan Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Ahmedabad 3,355 39. Disco Electronics Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 1,691 40. Dynamic Electronics (India) Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore 15,419 41. Dynavision Ltd., Madras 29,239 42. Electronics Instrumentation. Hooghly 963 43. Electronics Consortium Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 40,839 44. Electrovision (India) Gorakhpur 100 45. Empire Trading Company, New Delhi 256 46. -Enfield India Ltd., Madras 758 47. Eskay Electronics (India) Pvt. Ltd., _New Delhi 194 •. Ezhuthassans Electronnix Pvt. ltd., Trichur City 3,971 49.. Ferry Radio Corporation, New Delhi 487 50. Fusebase Electro Pvt. ltd., New Delhi 10,014 51. GCG Radio Corporation, New Delhi 42 52. Gripp Systems Pvt. Ltd .• Ahmedabad 7.900 385 Written Anawel8 SRAvANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) .Wrltten Ana..,. 388 1 2 ;3 53. Happy House (TV) Mfg. Division Ltd., Madras 4,641 54. Hargopal and Sons Pvt. Ltd., Ambala Cantt. 103 I 55. Hendez Electronics Ltd., Palghat 2,247 56. Hi-Beam Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Madras 28,532 57. Instavision Electronic, Ahmedabad 2,597 58. J K C Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Calcutta 121 59. JS Enterprises, Amritsar 19 60.· Jajodia Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Calcutta 7 61. Jetking Electronics Ltd., Bombay 53 62. Jolly Radio & Sound Service, Rampur 196 63. Jupiter Radios (Regd), Ludhiana 1,332 64. Jupiter Radios (Regd). New Delhi 11,120 65. Ka'yani Sharp 'ndia Ltd., Pune 4,694 66. KD & Sons. New Delhi 9 67. Keerti Electronics Industries. UP 17 68. Kejriwal Electronics. Calcutta 6,668 69. Kelvision Electronics. Trivandrum 119 70. Keonics Video Ltd., Bangalore 2,048 71. Kingston Electronics Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 4,681 72. Krisons Electronic System Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 2,425 73. Mahendra Radio & Television Pvt. Ltd., Meerut 150 74. Marwan Electronics Equipment Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 790 75. Master Electronics Co. Pvt. Ltd., Trivandrum 550 76. Mirc Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Bombay 39,407 77. Monica Electronics Pvt. Ltd., 38.785 78. Niharika Electronics Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 130 79. Nihon Electronics Pvt. Ltd .• Bombay 2.991 so. Niky Tasha India Pvt. Ltd., Farfdabad 7,202 387 Written Answers AUGUST 6. 19fn Written AIJ8W8IS 388 1 2. 3 81. Novatron Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 1 82. Novavision Electronit:s Pvt. Ltd., Ghaziabad 537 83. Ocean Electronic Company, Moreana 1.255 84. Orient Vision Ltd., Madras 974 85. Orsons Electronics Ltd., Bombay 28.528 86. Ramain Products Pvt. Ltd., Bombay 500 87. Pekon Electronics Ltd., Calcutta 673 88. Quaser Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Bombay 2,873 89. RCP Electronics Pvt. ltd., Bangalore 100 90. Raghu Nandan Electronics Ltd., Bangalore 1,055 91. Ralectronics Pvt. ltd., Bangalore 64,305 92. Ravelectronics, Madras 970 93. Reliance Electronic Industries (I) Pvt. ltd., Noida 14.098 94. Royal Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Belgaum 60 95. Ruchika Electronics Ltd., New Delhi 300 96. Sakura Electronics Pt. Ltd., Madras 75 97. Sigma Engineers, Pune 8,386 98. Simplex Electronics, Ahmedabad 472 99. Sinclaire Televisions Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad 3,001 100. Singh Radio Co (India) Pvt. ltd., New Delhi 132 101. Sipply Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Noida 166 102. Skantrons Pvt. Ltd., Jaipur 530 103. Sonodyne Television Pvt. Ltd., Calcutta 8,273 104. Sonovision Pvt. ltd., Ghaziabad 1.029 105. Starvision Pvt. Ltd., Noida 792 '106. Starvox Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Ahmedabad 402 101. StylQn Electronics Industries, Pondicnerry 25 108. Sudarshan Electronics & TV Ltd., Bombay 9,120 389 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SA·KA) . Written Answers 390 , 2 3 109. Super Computronics Ltd., New Delhi 230 110. Surya Cinetron Pvt. Ltd., Patna 225 111. Target Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Sahibabad 134 112. Telerama (India) Ltd .. Calcutta 5,806 113. Telestar Communication Systems Pvt. Ltd., Cannore 630 114. Television & Components Pvt. Ltd .. Naroda 53.585 115. Televista Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Ghaziabad 370 116. Televista Electroni·cs Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi 10,612 117. Tressa Electronics Pvt. ltd., Ahmedabad 6.411 118. Trident Electronics, Calcutta 1,293 119. l:)sha Television ltd., Faridabad 15 120. V V Rama Rao & Company. Hyderabad 914 121. Velwyn Television ltd., Madras 57 122. Video Electronic Pvt. ltd., Sahibabad 16,300 123. Videon, New Delhi 4,152 124. Vijai Electronics Pvt. Ltd., Hyderabad 187 125. Vipul Electronics, Calcutta 209 126. Weston Electroniks ltd .. New Delhi 33,666 127. Weston Electroniks Components Ltd., New Delhi 9,364 Gold seized In Cochln and Trlvandrum increasing or decreasing in the Western Coast? 1695. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the value and quantity of contraband DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN gold seized by the Customs authorities at THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. Cochin and at Trivandrum during the last GADHVI): (a) The quantity and value of two years; and gold seized by the Customs authorities at Cochin and Trivandrum airport during 1985 (b.) whether the smuggling of gold is and 1986 are given below:- '391 Written AI1SW8I'$ '. AUGUST 6,1987 Written Answers 392 Year Quantity Value (in kgs.) (As. in lakhs) 1985 160 326 1986 205 440 (b) Reports received by the Government SIck Units and seizures made indicate that gold con- tinues to be sensitive to smuggling into the 1697. SHRI D.P. JADEJA: country through Western Coast of India. SHAI SAIBALLAV PANIGAAHI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: SeIzure of Smuggled Gold (a) whether Government propose to 1696. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH direct the Industrial Development Bank of PATIL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be India to directly solicit information regard- pleased to state: ing causes of sickness from all sick units which it has refinanced all over the (a) the value of smuggled gold seized dur- country; ing the first quarter of 1987-88; and (b) the measures Industrial Develop- (b) action taken against the offenders ment Bank of India propose to take to and to strengthen anti-smuggling resolve sickness in units where it is also machinery? involved indirectly through re-financing; (c) whether sickness in many units is due to tardy and faulty disbursal of funds in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the respective State Industrial Develop- DEPARTMENT OF. EXPENDITURE IN ment Corporations; and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. GADHVI): (a) During the first quarter of (d) the action taken by Government to 1987-88, gold worth Rs. 10.98 crores were rectify this problem? seized by the Customs authorities throughout the country. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Stringent action is taken departmen- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAAD- tally as well as through prosecutions in a HANA POOJAAY): (a) to (d). The Indus- Court of Law against those involved in trial Development Bank of India (lOBI) smuggling of gold. Apart from confisca- provides assistance to small and medium tion of gold and imposition of penalties. industrial units indirectly under its refi- 'preventive detention under COFEPOSA is nance scheme through the State Level a'so resorted to in suitable cases. Corporations, (like SFCs, SIDCs) etc. Credit risk in respect of such loans is borne The anti-smuggling drive in general has by the primary lending institution which been intensified throughout the country has to take responsibility to ensure proper with particular emphasis in highly'vulnera- end-use of funds and follow-up. The lOBI ble areas on our land borders and coastal has been periodically undertaking detailed regions. Appropriate remedial measures performance evaluation of these State are also taken in close co-ordination with Level Institutions and making suggestions the·concerned Central and State Govem- for improvement In their operations/proce- ment authorities. dures, wherever needed. The lOBI has also 393 Written Answel8 ~VANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) . . Written Answers 394 organised a few credit camps recently to 3. Land Reform and Urban i..and guide the State Level Institution\ regard- Ceilings; I! ing drawal and expeditious implementa- tion of rehabiUtation packages in respect 4. Poverty alleviation and income of sick units. lOBI has also been operating generating programmes viz: a refinance scheme for rehabilitation of sick units in the small and medium scale (a) Integrated Rural Develop- sector since January, 1984. This scheme ment Programme (IROP), has been reviewed recently and revised guidelines have been issued for rehabilita- (b) National Rural Employ- tion of sick SSI units. lOBI has also empha- ment Programme (NREP), sised upon the State Level Institutions for ensuring coordination with banks as (c) Rural Landless Labour regards availability of adequate and timely Employment Guarantee working capital assistance. Programme (RLEGP), economic DIspartIIea (d) Minimum Needs Pro- gramme (MNP), 1698. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state: (e) Special area development programme - for Tribal (a) what specific steps have so far been Areas, Hill Areas, Drought taken by Union Government to remove Prone Area Programme, economic disparities that exist in India Desert Development Pro- between 'haves' and 'havenots'; and gramme, etc. (b) what are the impediments that come (5) Human resource development, in the way of implementing poverty allevia- particularly through measures to tion measures undertaken under 20-point improve the access of the poor to Economic Programme?- education and health care. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (6) Progressive taxation of income MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- and wealth. TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION (7) The growth of public sector. (SHAI SUKH RAM) : (a) Progressive reduction in poverty and inequality has (b) Vastness and complex nature of the been the central concern of planning in problem and constraint of resources are India. A variety of instruments ranging the major impediments in speedy and from direct attack on poverty and asset effective implementation of these inequality to more indirect fiscal measure programmes. haye been used to pursue this objective. Pen_on payment on first dQ of every The important steps taken to raise the month income of the poor and reduce inequalities are: 1699. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: 1. Programmes tor raising agricul- tural productivity; (8) the steps taken to disburse the pen- sion on the first day of every month; 2. Programmes for raisi ng the income of small and marginal (b) wheth~r some pensioners are getting farmers; pension below the minimum pension; and 395 Written AnswslS AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answel8 396 (c) if so, steps taken to give the minimum (c) whether Government propose to pension? make EI similar study of medium scale units; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- ISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIE- (d) if so, the details thereof; and VANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI BIREN SINGH ENGTI) : (a) Under the extant rules (e) if not, the reasons therefor? pension becomes due on the first day of the month following that to which it relates THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and can be drawn by the pensioner on or MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- after that date. Pensioners are being HANA POOJARY): (a) The Reserve Bank encouraged to draw. their pension from of India (RBI) had constituted a Commit- public sector banks where pension is cre- tee in February 1986 to consider the prob- dited to their respective accounts automat- lem of identification and rehabilitation of ically on the last day of th~ month to which sick units in the small scale sector. Based it relates. on the report of the Committee. the RBI have ~ssued guidelines pertaining to reha- (b) and (c). Minimum pension has been bilitation of such units. raised to Rs. 375/- per month with effect from 1.1.1986. (b) A Statement showing State-wise number of sick S5. units as at the end of Aehabilltatlon of SIck Units December. 1985 (latest available) is given below. 1700. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) to (e). Government have requested the RBI to make a fresh study regarding (a) whether the Reserve B~nk of India the causes of industrial sickness and RBI had constituted a Committee to study the proposes to cover both. large and medium problem of rehabilitation of sick units in scale units within the ambit of this study. the small scale sector; Regarding parameters of grant of reliefs and concessions by banks in respect of (b) State-wise, estimated number of units other than in the SSt sector, RBI have such small scale units; separately issued guidelines. STATEMENT State-wise figures of Sick SSI units in the portfolio of Scheduled Commercial Banks State/UTs No. of units 1 2 ,. Andhra Pradesh 8694 2. Assam 5683 3. Bihar 8570 4. Gujarat 4045 5. Haryana 1500 6. Himachal Pradesh 413 7. Jammu & Ka$hmir 1382 . 397 . Written Answe18 SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) , Written Answers 398 1 2 8. karnataka 5705 9. Kerala 2378 10. ~adhya Pradesh 7843 11. Maharashtra 8567 12. Manipur 669 13. Meghalaya 141 14. Nagaland 7 . 15. Orissa 5299 16. Punjab 1345 17. Rajasthan 5964 18. Tamil Nadu 15171 19. Tripura 245 20. Uttar Pradesh 12036 21. West Bengal 18620 22. Andaman & Nicobar 23. Arunachal Pradesh 11 24. Chandigarh 171 25. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 3 26. Delhi 2271 27. Goa, Daman and Diu 808 28. Mizoram 2 29. Pondicherry 240 Total: 117783 Cantrllll, ..,_. eche..... In Weal 8engal MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- 1701. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION the progress made in the implementation (SHRI SUKH RAM): A Statement showing of various centrally aided schemes in West progress made in financial terms in respect Bengal during the last three years? of major centrally sponsored schemes in West Bengal during the last three years, is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE given below. 389 Written AnswetS AUGUST 6, 1987 Written AI'JSW8I'S 400 '0 ...... s• _::I.CD .... CI) !.~ ~ I -eO) I -0. -Q) .2.--C )( u to- Z lit ~ III I- •~ CD ~ - o 10 o 10 - C -a e -ii:' o fi - io :;: c: c: • e w as 0 it: e>. >.-1 ." .- o oa: ·c Cii CD -> .... CD 0. 0.;- CDC/)- E· '0 .... CD o E e E z; WCD o CD "iii w ~~ .... CI)~ ~ ::J (I) (,) ! ~C/) otJ~ z;CD a: CD ::s CD e- '0 E a::e '0 CD C • ;::O e• 15- 'se "iiE -Ie .... l! as C > CD CD 0 .... l! .-as . as .... E ~g .... as g .:: ,!g as .... ::J ::s Q)_ z• ..5~ za.. a:: 0 a:: 0 a;z·0 401 Written AnBW81a SRAVANA 15, 1969 (SAKA) Written Answers 402 c -CD E Q. o ~ > cCD «CD! "DE;1: E l! ~~ OQ. 403 Written Answers AUGUST 6, 1987 Written Answcn 404 Contnabend confiscated at the Ports (c) the action taken against the offenders? 1702. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. (a) the value of contraband goods con- GADHVI): (a) and (b). The total value of fiscated from foreign travellers and Indian contraband goods seized and the number travellers at different ports in 1985 and of persons arrested, including foreign 1986; nationals, at the international airports dur- ing the years 1985 and 1986 are given (b) the details of arrests made; and below:- Year Total value of seizures Total number of at international airports persons arrested (Rs. in crores) 1985 40.50 1304 1986 37.58 1079 (c) Stringent action is taken departmen- run the institution for mentally retarded tally as well as through prosecutions in a children; and Court of Law against those involved in smuggling acttvities at airports. Apart from (b) the amount of grant sanctioned to confiscation of contraband goods and each of them during 1986-87 and 1987-88? imposition of penalties. preventive deten- tion under COFEPOSA is also resorted to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- in suitable cases. ISTRY OF WELFARE (SHAI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). A Statement Grants to voluntary organisations tor showing the names of the voluntary organ- mentally retarded children isations working for the mentally handi- capped and the amount of grant 1703. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Wilt the sanctioned/released to each of them dur- Minister of WELFARE be pleased to state: ing the year 1986-87 and 1987-88 upto July, 1987 under the "Scheme of Assist- (a) the name of the voluntary organisa- ance to the Organisations for the disabled tions getting grants from her Ministry to persons" is given below. STATEMENT Names of the Voluntary Organisation which have received grant for the Mentally Handicapped and the amount sanctioned/released to each of them during the year 1986-87 and 1987-88 under the 'Scheme of Assistance to the Organisations for the disabled persons' S.No. Name & Address of the organisation Amount sanctioned during the year: 1986-87 1987-88 (upto July, 87) 1 2 3 4 ------~----,------_Andhra Pradesh 1. Andhra Pradesh State Council for 13,56,350 5,42,800 Child Welfare, Hyderabad 405 Written Answers SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 406 " 2 3 4 2. Radha Institute for Mentally Retarded 1,50,000 Raniganj. Secunderabad 3. H}\derabad Special School for children 4,94,352 94,626 in need for Special Care, Secunderabad 4. Pamencap Centre, Secunderabad 63,945 Assam: 1. Gauhati Mental Welfare Society, 1,50,000 Gauhati Gujarat: 1. Shishu Kunj Special School for 1,50,000 40,000 Mentally Retarded. Porbandar. 2. Shri Sharda Charitable and Education 1.50.000 Trust, Kothari Sadan, Ahmedabad. 3. S.M. Institute of Mental Health. 6.77.778 Ahmedabad Haryana: 1. District Red Cross Society. Rohtak 1.26.976 Jammu and Kashmir: 1. Rotary Inner Whee~ Home for the 1,33.413 Mentally Retarded Children, Jammu. Karnataka: 1. Association for the Mentally 32.889 Handicapped. BangaJore. 2. Sharda Mahita Seva Samaj. Bennur. Mysore 32.985 3. Dr. Steiner's Curative Education Instt. for 1.50,000 Mentally Retarded Vidyagiri. -Dharwad. Kera/a: 1. Social Welfare Centre, Trichur 2.6~.146 2. Balvikas Society, Perookoda, Trivandrum 22.972 3. Young Women's Association Quilon. 26,514 4. Rotary InsU. for Children in need of 2.27.638 Special Care, Trivandrum. 5. Vimla Mahila Samajam, Muvattapuzha (Kerala) 45.275 407 AUGUST 6, 1887 1 2 3 • 6. Society for the 'Rehabilitation of Mentally 10,995 Retarded Children. Cannanore. . Maharashtra: 1. Astitva, Plot No.8, Phase No.1, 78,607 M.I.D.C., Dombivili. Dist. Thane 2. Society for care Treatment Training 2.67.104 of children in need of Special Care Samri Hills. Sevji Road, Bombay. 3. Poona Seva Sadan Society. Sadhshiv 6,803 Path, Pune, 4. Society for the Vocational Reh. of 36,180 Retarded. Kalichand Mansion. Gandhi Marg. Bombay. 5. Kamayani Udyog Kendra Society, 41.680 Shivaji Nagar, Poona. 6. Probodhini Vidya Mandir, School for 17,296 Retarded Children, Circle Cinema, Nasik. Manipur: 1. Centre for Mental Hygiene, Sagar Road, 3,68,510 Thangam Leika, Imphal. Orissa: 1. Handicapped Welfare Organisation, 76,181 Balasore. Tamil Nadu: 1. Bala Vihar, Halls Road, kilpauk, Madras. 61,790 2. Anbagam Instt. for the Mentally '98,748 Handicapped, Madurai. 3. Pathway Centre for Rehabilitation and 60,480 Education for the Mentally Retarded ChHdren, Gandhi Nagar, Madras. .c. Church of South India Trust. Association 61.769 204. Race Course Road, Coimbatore. s. Sunder Special Education Society, Thajavour. 8. Bal•• har Home for the Mentally 1,04,670 Ret.ded, Madras. 408 Written Anawe18 SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) ,Written AnsMn 410 1 2 3 4 Uttar Pr.adesh·: 1. Bureau of Child Welfare and Research, 3,53,490 Hazarat Ganj, Lucknow 2. Raphel. Ryder Cheshire International 85,105 Centre, Dehradun. 3. Chetna School for the Mentally Retarded, 3,17,124 1,65.830 Niralanagar, Lucknow. 4. Akhil Bhartiya Viklang Samiti, 1,n,165 Faizabad, Ayodhya. West Bengal: 1. Prabartak Institute of Mentally 2,06,818 Retarded, Hooghly. 2. Prabartak Sangha, Chandan Nagar. 1.50.000 3. Alakendu Bodh Niketan, Kankurgachi, 3,67,822 Calcutta. 4. Society for Remedial Education, Calcutta 2,65,406 5. Abhinav Bharathi, Manovikas Kendra, 4,84,182 1.32.741 Calcutta. Delhi: 1. Federation for the Welfare of the 4.21.646 Mentally Retarded. Shaheed Jeet Singh Marg, New Delhi. 2. Balwantray Mehta Vidya Bhawan, 3,51,456 1,86.259 Lajpat Nagar, New Delhi. 3. Sanjeevani Society for Mental Health, 3,12,608 Under Defence Colony flyover, New Delhi. 4. Delhi Society for the Welfare of 82,350 Mentally Retarded Children. Okhla Road. New Delhi. 5. Samadhan, J-32, South Extension. Part-I 60,103 New Delhi. 6. Association for the Development of 26,460 Multlple Handicapped, Defence Colony, New Delhi. 7. Tamana, 183, Munirka 'Enclave, New Delhi. 4.104 24.624 411 Written An8wets AUGUST 6. 1987 Written Amwel3' 412' lAS 0fIIwrs on Dep.. 11IIIan to DeIhl (d) the ·action taken/proposed against erring bank officials? 1704. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- (a) the number of lAS Officers on d~pu HANA POOJARY): (a) According to the tation to various Central Government Min- information furnished by the Zonal Office istries/Oepartments/Undertaldngs etc. in of Allahabad Bank, New Delhi, the number Delhi who have completed their normal of accounts having loan component of tenure of deputation; and more than Rs. 20 lakhs was as under: (b) the steps proposed to transfer back such lAS Officers to their parent State? 1984 28 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- 1985 31 ISTRY OF PERSONNEL .. PUBLIC GRIE- VANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI BIREN 1986 37 SINGH ENGTI): (a) There are five officers Who have co.mpleted their normal tenure 1987 40 and have been granted extension in public (Upto June) interest. This excludes officers who are given a few months extension of tenure on account of their children's education, till (b) All except six borrowers are repaying the close of the academic year, which including the interest amount. In the case extension of ·tenure is in accordance with of·2 accounts, suits have been filed and in the general policy_ the case of remaining 4, recovery is being pursued. (b) The dfficers will be reverted to their cadres on expiry of their extended term of (c) and (d). No case of collusion, as deputation. such, of bank officers wiith the borrowers has come to notice. Only there are some cases of procedural lapses for which show Loens given by Allahabad Bank In DeIhl cause notices charge sheets have been issued to three officers of th~ bank. 1705. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: LIaIson OffIcer to monitor ~atIon policy In Benks (8) the number of individuals/firms/com- panies given loans of Rs. 20 lakhs and 1706. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: above by the various 'branches of Alla- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to habad Bank in Delhi auring the years 1984, state: 1985. 1986 and 1987 (upto June): (a) whether a senior officer in Banking , (b) whether most of the concerns/com- Division in his Mjnistry has been desig- panies/individuals mentioned in' (8) above nated as Uaison Officer to look after the are not paying even interest accrued the- implementation and monitoring of reserva- reon and if so. the details thereof: tion policy for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in banks; Cc) whether any case of collusion between bank officials and these indivi- (b) whether the duties of such Uaison dualS/firms/companies have come to the Officer include examination of Promotion notice of Government; and Policies of naitionalised banks with a view 413 Written MawS,. SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 414 to ensure that reservation orders are prop- SeIzures made in Airports in Rajasthan erly implemented in nationalised banks: 1708. SHRI SHANTJ DHARIWAL: Will (c) if so, whether the promotion policies the Minister of FINANCE be pleaseq to of nationalised banks, particularly for pro- state: motions within officers grades, have been examin~d by such Liaison Officer; (a) the value of articles seized by the customs authorities at all the airports in (d) if so, the names of banks which are Rajasthan during the last six months, following the policy of promotion by airport-wise: seniority subject to fitness for promotions within officers scale; and (b) the value of articles left unclaimed due to heavy duties imposed on them dur- (e) whether all these banks have been ing the above period, airport-wise; and following the reservation orders and if so, since when? (c) the details how these articles were disposed off? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE' MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN HANA POOJARY) : (a) to (e). An Officer of THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. the rank of Deputy Secretary to the GADHVI): (a) No seizure of contraband Government of India has been designated goods have been effected by the Customs in the Banking Division of the Ministry of authorities at ai rports in the State of Rajas- Finance as Liaison Officer to look after the than during the period January to June, implementation and monitoring of reserva- 1987. tion policy for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in recruitment and in (b) No goods have been seized as promotions in public sector banks. The unclaimed at the Airport in Rajasthan due preliminary examinati~n of the informa- to heavy duties impos~d on them during tion made available by 11 of the 20 nationa- January to June, 1987. lised banks revears that eight banks are following the selection method in promo- (c) Does not arise. tions within officers cadre. Two banks viz. Bank of Maharashtra and Bank of India are following both selection method and Forest cover In Rajasthan seniority cum fitness method in promotii- ons within officers grade up to Middle 1709. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will Management Grade Scale-III and are mak- the Minister of ENVIRONMENT ANt;) ing reservations for the Scheduled Castes FORESTS be pleased to state: and Scheduled Tribes in promotions within officers cadre through the method (a) the total area in Rajasthan covered of seniority' cum fitness. One bank viz. with forests and the desert area separately; Indian Overseas Bank is following the seniority cum .fitness method only for pro- (b) whether the area under forests has motions within officers cadres upto Middle been decreasing rapidly and the desert Management Grade Scal~1118nd is follow- area is increasing; Ing the Government orders regarding res- ervations. The date of effect for (c) if so. the details of area so decreased reservations in promotions within officers and increased during the last three years cadres .in respect of Indian Overseas Bank particularly in Kotah district; and is 1.7.78 and in respect of Bank of India 1.1.1984. . (d) the details of the schemes implemen- 415 Written Ahswer AUGUST 6, 1987 WrItten -Answer 416 ted/under implementation to stop further together with the detaits of industrial units expansion of desert? to be devetoped particularly cement and copper industry; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (c) the extent to which Union Govern- FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. _ANSARI): (a) The ment are expected to prOvide financial forest and desert area in the State of Rajas- assistance to the State for development in than is about 31150 Sq. Km. and 1,96,150 the industrial field? Sq. Km. respectively. _ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c~ According to the studies of MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINIS- satellite imagery by the National Remote TER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Sensing Agency. the forest cover in Rajas- PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION than decreased from 11294 sq. km. during (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 1972-75 to 5972 sq. km. during 1980-82. However, it cannot be stated with certainty (b) At the time of finalisation of the Sev- that the desert area is increasing in the enth Five Year Plan the State Government State. of Rajasthan had submitted proposals for the development of large industries and (d) The Desert Development Pro- minerals and village and small scale indus- gramme funded by the Government of tries in the State during the Seventh Plan India is being implemented for controlling involving an outlay of Rs. 228.48 crores for desertification and restoration of ecologi- Large & Medium Industries & Minerals and cal balance. As. 117.38 crores for Village and Small Scale Industries. The proposals included Afforestation is also being carried out the development of copperllead/Zinc under the National Rural Employment Pro- mines at Deri in Sirohi District by the Rajas- gramme, Rural Landless Employment than State Mineral Development Corpora- Guarantee Programme and Rural Fuel- tion. The Rajasthan Industrial wood, Plantation Scheme assisted by the Development Corporation is also promot- Govt. of India as also under the Social ing the development of cement industry in Forestry Project and plantation schemes the private sector. of the State Government. (c) The proposals -of the State Govern- Development of Industrtes In RaJasthan ment were discussed in the Planning Com- mission and -finally an outlay of Rs. 144.47 1710. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will crores was approved for large and medium the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to industries and minerals and As. 46.05 state: crores for village and small scale industries in the State Plans. (a> whether Government of Rajasthan has submitted any scheme for the develop- The details of the schemes and the out- ment of industries in the State; lays proposed and provided in the Seventh Plan of Rajasthan are given in the State- (b) if so, the details of the scheme ment below. 4'17 Written Answe~ SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 418 (i) c:"'O >- . L:, to CD as 8 8 88888 8888 ~ >; C") c:: 0 :l &ri 0 CO~OO~ Mood ~ 0 0 ...-..-&t')&t') ...... U) 0 U') ,... L:, Cio C\I C\I &t') ~ C\I ui ..... Co C\I "'I:t a:- - « c: "'0 >- 00 ~ 0 C'CS Q) as gg &t') 0 (I); 8 8 m 888 0 0::: N lri ..n ~c:) ~ .. do 0 o :l C\I m ~g 00 ...... 0)000 .J::. g.o co ~ ..- ..- 'I""" ,... U')o..-C") ,.._ ... C\I m ..- - Cl. C------A~----__, .... Z 11.1 :E ....11.1 C ....en 'E Q) E u; (I)' > r:::::: c: .2 10 ...o Co o... (.) ~ CD Z 419 Written AnsW818 AUGUST 6. 1987 Written AI18W8I8 420 ' • 8 8 iII) Ii 8888 8 8 &00&00 NO(")O g It)o ~ ,....o C") cc:a .c c:aen "a;-- a:: c o E,._ o ,._c. o () E CD E c. o CD ::> oCD as c CD... o c ~.... :i o CD ...c. co o en () c c c:a CD c: ..c:. u; -CD (i) CD ~ , en E C) CD c. c:a C .c ·e "a; :::J o o a:: ~ o o -> :=:a:=:-:=- =cc ->"->=...... ~ > c:a 1 ..._....::_. Q I c: C'i :sj uc: • 421 Written AnswBt8 SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl Wrinen Answers . 422 ·.. neII.. to Army OffIcers Working In recruited against unreserved posts in the 8anu : public sector banks and financial institu- tions are not entitled to t~e benefits of 1711. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will seniority but their pay has to be fixed by the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to giving them the benefits of advance state: increments for the completed years of service in the armed forces. The ex- (a) whether it is a fact that emergency Commi~sioned Officers and discharged/retired Emergency Commis- ex-Short Service Commissioned Officers, sioned Officers/Short Service who were commissioned in the armed Commissioned Officers who join public forces after 10. 1.68 and who joined the sector banks and other financial banks' service, are to be granted a~vance institutions are entitled to certain benefits increments equal to the completed years . for the purpose of pay fixation and of service rendered by them in the armed seniority; forces on a basic pay, including deferred pay but excluding other emoluments equal (b) if so, the details thereof; to or higher than the minimum of the pay scale attached to the post subject to the (c) the total number of Emergency condftion that the pay arrived at should not Commissioned Offficers who have so far exceed the pay last drawn by them in the joined the State Bank of India as armed forces. Probationary Officers, Security Officers and Liaison Officers, respectively; (c) to (e). State Bank of India is reoorted to have so far extended the benefits of (d) whether some of the Emergency pay fixation and seniority to 14 Ex- Commissioned Officers who joined the Emergency Commissioned Officers/Short State Bank of India as Security Officers Service Commissioned Officers who joi- have been denied the benefits regarding ned the bank as Probationary Officers pay fixation and seniority; and against reserved vacancies. It has further reported that the benefits of pay fixation (e) if so. the details thereof and the are available to all Ex-Emergency Com- reasons therefor? missioned Officers/Short Service Com- missioned Officers who are covered by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Government guidelines. The benefits MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- of seniority are, however. available only to DHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). All Ex- such of the Ex-Emergency Commissioned emergency Commissioned Officers and Officers/Short Service Commissioned Ex-Short Service Commissioned Officers. Officers who joined the pre-commissioned who were commissioned in armed forces training in the armed fo~ between between the period 1.11.62 and 10.1.68 1.11.62 and 10.1.68 and who have been and who have been recruited in the public apPOinted in the bank against posts sector banks and financial institutions reserved for them. Information regarding against posts reserved for them, are to be tne number of Ex-Emergency deemed to have been appointed in the CommiSSioned OfficerlEx-Short Service Banks' service on the date to be arrived at Commissioned Officers, wno joined State by giving credit to their approved military Bank of India as Security Officers and service and the period of pre-commis- Uaison Officers. is not available. sioned:training, if any. Their seniority and pay are to be fixed with reference to that Suney on Endangered Speciaa date. The Ex-Emergency Commissioned Officers and Ex-Short Service Commis- 1712. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD: Sioned Officers, who were commissioned Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND during this' period, and who have been FORESTS be pleased· to state: 423 Written Answers (a) whether it is proposed to conduct a completed .. The schemes ,to be taken up fresh survey on endangered animal under Ganga Action Plan are expected to species of the country; be completed by the end of the 7th Five Year Plan. (b) if so; details thereof: and Till 30th June, 1987, a total of Rs. 36.98 (c) if not, the reasons thereof? crores have been released to different State government agencies for execution of the TH~ MINISTER OF STATE IN THE schemes. The State governments have MINISTRY OF ENVIRO~MENT AND reported an expenditure of Rs. 34.96 FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) to (c). crores till 30.6.1987. Survey of endangered and threatened animal species of the country is a regular Polluted rivers in Kamataka and continuing programme of the Zoological Survey of India (ZSI). In this 1714. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARA- process they have so far identified 81 SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister species of mammals, 46 species of b'irds, of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be 15 species of reptiles and 3 species of pleased to state: amphibia as endangered. Ganga Action Plan (a) the rivers of Karnataka that have been identified as most polluted rivers; 1713. DR. G. V1JAYA RAMA RAO: SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: (b) the steps taken to keep these rivers pollution free; Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) the direction given to the State Government in this regard; and (a) the progress m~de so far in cleaning river Ganga indicating phased schedule: (d) whether any clean up operation are and proposed to be undertaken in these polluted rivers? (b) the expenditure incurred thereon? THE MINISTER· OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. 'ANSARI): (a) The FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and rivers Shadra and Tungabhadra which are (b). A total of 259 schemes have been tributaries to the Krishna have been identified to be taken up under Ganga identified as polluted rivers compared to Action Plan in the three States of U.P., the others. Bihar and West Bengal. Out of these, as on 30th June. 1987. 162 (b) The steps taken include the schemes at a tota' cost of Rs. 169.97 crores following: have been sanctioned. (i) Effluent standards nave been Seven schemes at a cost of Rs. 3.23 prescribed for major .polluting crores have been completed in Hardwar- industries; Rishikesh, Ramnagar 'near Varanasi and for recommissioning of the pumping (ii) Industries are required to treat stations and sewage treatment plants in their effluents to the prescribed Patna. Till end 1987-88, 42 schemes at a standards before disc"arging cost of Rs. 19.38 crores are expected to be them into rivers. 425 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 426 (iii) Incen~ives Cjlre provided to the Canara Bank have reported having industries for installing pollution introduced a Sugam Deposit Scheme with control devices; effect from 14.7.1987 and it is yet too early to assess its popularity. (iv) Legal action is taken against the defaulting units; (c) Introduction of specific Deposit I, Schemes is considered by the Banks (v) Large number of ind~stries have within the framework of overall put up the effluent treatment directions/guidelines of the Reserve Bank. plants; Government/RBI do not tender any advice to them in this regard. (vi) River basinwise studies are carried out systematically and Promotion to SC/ST in Indian Overseas regularly on all major rivers in the Banks State; and 1716. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: (vii) Monitoring Stations for Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to monitoring water quality have state: been set up in these rivers. (a) whether it is a fact that Indian (c) No direction has been issued. Overseas ·Bank has declared promotions to scale II and III in officers scale on (d) It is the policy of the Government of 31.12.86 with retrospective effect from India that all polluted rivers must be 1.7.85; cleaned up in stages depending on the availability of resources. (b) whether it is also a fact the the said promotions in the bank are based on Sugam Deposit Scheme seniority subject to fitness and require reservation for SC/ST officers; 1715. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASIMHA WADIYAR: Will the Minister (c) if so, the number of vacancies filled of FI NANCE be pleased to state: as on 1.7.85, the number of reserved vacancies, the backlog of reserved (a) whether Canara Bank has vacancies in Scale II and III for last three introduced a scheme namely "Sugam years before the said promotions and the Deposit Scheme" for the travellers; latest position of backlog in both the grades: and (b) whether such scheme is gaining popularity day by day; and (d) the steps taken by Government to clear the backlog of reserved vacancies? (c) if so, whether Government propose to advise other banks to introduce the same scheme in order to provide benefit to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the travellers? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): (a) and (b). (c) The information is as under:- ~ Wdffen AI1SW8IS . AUGUST ~ 1987 written Annwn 428 Category No. of No. of ,_rvea Backlog of ~eserved. Vacancies on vacancies vacancies wtth filled reference to w.e.f. column (I) 30.6.85 1.7.85 1.7.1985 SC ST SC ST SC ST (I) (II) (III) (Iv) . (v) (vi) (vII) JMOS-I to MMGS-II 200 30 15 158 79 144 71 MMOS-II to M~GS-III 75 11 8 41 20 37 18 (d) According to the promotion policy (d) whether each selection grade post. followed by the bank the candidates to be existing or proposed. has a functional justi- considered for promotion from Junior fication; and Management Grade Scal~1 to Middle Management Grade Scale-II and from Middle (e) the average financial cost of each Management Grade Scale-II to Middle selection grade post. service-wise? Management Grade Scale-III have to satisfy certain eligibility criteria including THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- the number of years of service in the lower ISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIE- grade. Recently Indian Overseas Bank has VANCES AND PENSIONS (SHRI BIREN been permitted to relax this criterion by SINGH ENGTI): (a) The system Of Cadre one year in favour of Scheduled castel Review which has been made more regular Scheduled Tribe officers for promotion takes into consideration the need for creat- from Junior Management Grade Scale-I to ing higher posts after assessing the job Middle Management Grade Scale-II as a' requirement. one time· measure. With the consequent increase in the number of Scheduled The Government have also announced c.ste and Scheduled Tribe officers in the creation of Selection Grade posts at feeder gradeS'. an increasing number of 15% of the Senior Duty Posts which has such officers are likely to become available substantially added to the promotion for promotion to next higher grades opportunities in Group 'A' Central against reservations available to them and Services. this will improve the position of their representation in the various grade of offic- (b) and (c). The number of selection ers in the bank. grade posts in each service as on 1.1.87. on the basis of existing formula and the Incntaee In Promotional· Avenues In Cen- likely strength of selection grade posts on InII ServIces the basis of revised formula is given in the Statement below. 1717. SHRt SyeO SHAHABUDDIN: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: (d) In most of the Services the existing Selection Grade posts are non-functional. (8) th~ steps taken by Government to In few Services these are functional. The increase the promotional avenues for the proposed Selection Grade posts in all Ser- officers of the Central Services; vices are intended to be non-functional. (b) the number of existing selection (e) The average financial cost of each gf8de posts in _ch Service as on 31.3.87; selection grade post, based' generally on the difference of average cost of selection (c) the additional number of such posts . grade post and Junior Administrative created or proposed to be created since Grade post in each service is around Rs. .then. service-wise; 10,500 per annum. . ! 429 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) t Written Answers . 430 STATEMENT· Number of Selection Grade Posts In Group 'A f Central service on the basis of existing and proposed Formula. 91. N-.me of Service Number of Selection Grade No. Posta baaed on existing Propoeed Formula Formula 1. 2. 3. 4. 1. Indian Revenue Service (I.T.) 152 317 2. Indian Revenue Service (C and CE) 140 3. Indian Audit and Accounts Service 23 83 4. Indian Postal Service 17 81 5. IndJan Defence Accounts Service 10 31 6. Indian P and T Accounts and Fin. Service 6 25 7. Indian Defence Estate Service 3 13 8. Indian Railway Traffic Service 29 83 9. Indian Railway Personnel Service 14 34 10. Indian Railway Accounts Service 22 80 11. Central Trade Service 2 8 12. Central Information Service 13 43 13. Indian Ordnance Factories Service (non-technical) 80 146 14. Indian Civil Accounts Service 7 18 15. Indian Telecommunications Service 82 324 11. . Indian Railway Service of Signal Engg. 29 73 17. Indian Railway Service of Elect. Engg. 87 11. Indian Railway Service of Mechanical Engg. 105 18. Indian Railway Service of En~g. 77 170 20. Indian Railway Store Service. 18 43 21.. Military Engg. Service 54 174 22. Centra. Power Engg. Service 18 431 Written AnswatS AUGUST 6, 1981- Wrltt.enAnswelS- a2 1 2 3 4 23. Indian Inspection Service 3 9 24. Indian Supply Service e 12 25. Indian Naval Armament Service 5 8 28. Central Elect. and Mech. Engg. Service (CPWD) 6 23 27. Central Engg. Service (CPWD) 22 78 28. Central Engg. Service (Roads) 10 24 21. Border Roads Engg. Service 8 42 30. Indian Broadcasting Service (Engineering) 26 74 31. Centr.' Water Engg. Service 23 68 32. Central ·Health Service 238 359 33. Indian Railway Service (Health) 16 76 34. Indian Ordnance Factories Services (H.'th) 11 17 35. Indian Economic Service 19 41 38. Indian Statistical Service 16 39 37. Indian Coat and Accounts Service 3. 11 . 38. Defence Reaearch and Development Service 128 300 39. Defence Aeronautical Quality Assurance Service 9 19 40. Defence Quality Assurance Service 22 51 41. Indian Legal Servtce 7 11 42. Central Company Law Service 10 13 43. Survey of India Group "A' Service 9 28 44. Telegraph Traffic Service 2 10 45. Geotogical Survey of India 59 252 48. Indian Meterological Service 8 30 47. 'nd'an Salt Service 2 • The Information ia as on 1.7.88. ··438 Written Answ8tS SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl 'Written Answers ~ Number of Moaquea Under PunJab Wald licence on 1.4.87, State-wise; . Board (d) the number of mosques whose 1718. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: Will adverse poss.ession was vacated and the Mlnister of WELFARE be pleased to which were brought under the control of state: the Wakf Board during 1986-87, SVate- wise; and (a)· the number of mosques under the Punjab Wakf Board delicenced during (e) the number of mosques still under 1986-87, State-wise; adverse occupation as on 1.4.87, State- wise? (b) the number of mosques whose licen- ces were renewed during 1986-87, .state- wise: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF WELFARE (DR. RAJ EN- (c) the number of mosques under ORA KUMARI BAJPAI): Name of the State No. of Mosques and Shrines (8) 1. Punjab Nil 2. Haryana 2 3. Himachal Pradesh Nil 2 (b) 1. Punjab 1,136 2. Haryana 795 3. Himachal Pradesh 17 1.948 (c) 1. Punjab ·1.136 2. Haryana 795 3. Himachal Pradesh 17 1.948 (d) 1. Punjab 1 2. Heryan. 2 3. Himachal Pradesh Nil 3 (e) 1. Punjab 5,916 2. Hervana 3.519 3. Himachal Pradesh 78 Total: 9.513 435 Written AnsW8l'S AUGUST 6, 1987 Written· Af18W8I8 438 Advances to AQl'lcuttu.... Sector by the compared to ,other States; and Pubilc Sector Baaks In K...... (c) if so, the steps Government propose 1719. SHAI SURESH KUAUP: Will the to take to rectify this? Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI JANAAD- (a) the details of tile advances made by HANA POOJARY): (a) to (c). Details of the public sector banks to the agricultural outstanding advances of the public sector sector in Kera.a during the last three years; banks ot agricultural sector in Kerala for the three years ending December 1985 are (b) whether the amount is less when given below. As at the end of No. of Ales. Balance outstanding (Rs. in erores) December 1983 835716 243 December 1984 894973 299 December 1985 965448 356 Deployment of bank credit for agricul- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ture in a region/State depends upon var- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND ious factors such as agro-cljmatic FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) An conditions, availability of irrigation facili- area of 350.8 hectares of forest land has ties. credit absorption capacity of the bor- been diverted for non-forest uses in Ker- rower. reasonable recovery expectations ala, during ,the years 1984,1985 and 1986. etc. however, as against AU India growth rate in agricultural ildvances during the (b) and (c). 22 proposals nave been years ending 1984 and 1985 at 22.1 per received from the State Government of cent and 19.7 per cent, the relative percen- Kerala during the last three years. The tages in respel:t of Kerala were 23.5 per position is as under:- cent and 19.1 per cent respectively. Thus, 12 cases: Approved the performance of Kerala State compares 3 cases : ~ot approved reasonably well with the All India growth 1 case : Withdrawn by the State rate in respect of agricultural advances. Govern ment. DIveraIon of Forest Land' for non-Forestry 6 cases: Treated as closed due to Purposes non-receipt of essential information from the 1720. SHAI SUAESH KURUP: Will the State Government. Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: Environmental Clearance to Hydro- Electric Power Project (a) the area of forest land diverted for 1721. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- non-forestry purposes in Kerala during the CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENVIR- last three years; ONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to state: , (b) the number of requests received (8) whether the Idamalayar Hydro- from the State Government of Kerala. dur- Electric Power Project of Kerala has been ing the last three years for diversion of cleared by his Ministry; forest land to non-forestry purposes; and (b) whether eminent geologiSts have (c) the decision taken on these opined that the site 'proposed for the Idam- requests? alayer Project is not suited for. the pro- 437 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 438 posed type of dam as the site is located in Minister did not -visit any tribal area of Ker- seismic zone; ala during the year 1986-87. (c) whether the project has been resub- (b) No decision has so far been taken. mitted for clearance; (d) the alterations made in the project; Waste land Development .. and I, (e) the decision of the Ministry regarding 1723. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN the proposed project? RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: Will the- Minister of - ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS (SHAI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) No, (a) the amount sanctioned to the volun- Sir. tary agencies in Gujarat for the year 1986- (b) to (e). This project has not yet been 87 and 1987-88 as grant-in-aid for the referred to the Ministry of Environment purpose of seed distribution, raising nur- and Forests for consideration. No details series, demonstration and creation of awa- are, therefore, available. reness among masses on wasteland develoment; P.M. Visit to Tribal Areas in Kerala (b) the names and details of such volun- 1722. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- tary agencies in Gujarat; and CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of WEL- FARE be pleased to state: (c) the progress made by these agencies so far? (a) the tribal areas in Kerala which Prime Minister visited during 1985-86 and 1986- 87; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND (b) whether Prime Minister proposes to FORESTS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) Rs. visit more tribal areas in Kerala during 1.23 crores in 1986-87 and Rs. 22.2Slakhs 1987-88, if so, the details thereof? in 1987-88 (upto 25.7.1987). THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN-- (b) The names and addresses of these ISTAY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRIDHAR agencies are given in Statement-I below. GOMANGO): (a) During the year 1985-86 the Prime Minister visited the tribal areas of (c) The progress as indicated by them is KumiU and Kottathara in Kersla. The Prime given in Statement-II below. • STATEMENT Name of the Agency Address of the Acency 1. Agha Khan Rural Support Choic Premises Programme Swastik Cross Road .. Ahmedabad Gujarat. 2. S.E.W.A.· SEWA Reception Centre Opp., Victoria Garden, Ahmedabad, Gujarat. 3. Halpatl Sewa Sangh Kamgar Gt)ar Sarda, Sagh, Bardoli-394602 GUjarst. 439 Written Answet3 AUGUST 8, 1987 1· 2 4. . Inst.for Studies and H-3, Rushika Apartments Transformation Near Kiran Park, Navs Vadaj. Ahmedabad, GUjarat. 5. Utthan SA3/387, Saraswati Nagar, NR. Himmatial Park Azad Society-380015. Ahmedabad Gujarat. 6. Rural Labour Association Kamgar Ghar Sardar Bagh, 8ardoli-394602 Gujarat. 7. Amar Bharti Motipura Taluka Beligam, Ahemdabad Gujarat. S. B.A.I.F. Kamadhenu, Senapati Bapat Marg. Pune-411016 Maharashtra. STATEMENT -II Name Raised Nursery Plantation Awareness of (in ha.) (No. of (no of Seedlings) Persons) 1. Agha Khan Rural· N.A. . N.A. N.A. Support Prog. 2. S.E.W.A.·· N.A. N.A. N.A. 3r Halpati Sewa Sangh 45,15.000 1850 9,300 4 .. 'nst. for Studies and Transformation·· N.A. N.A. N.A. 5. Utthan** N.A N.A. N.A. 6. Rural Labour Association 26.40,000 1050 5,280 7. Amar Bharti· N.A. N.A. N.A. 8. B.A.I.F. 22.86,200 1000 2.807 • Progress report not yet due. ··Report not received. Agencies have been asked to send report timely. ~..... Clearance to Projects In (a) whether many developmental pro-' Kametaka jects in Karnataka are pending clearance by his Ministry; 1724. SHAI SRIKA_NTA DATTA NARA- (b) if sO,1he name and number of these SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister projects: and of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be (c) the reasons why environmental clear- pleased to state; ance has not been given to these projects 1 441 W~lten Al1$wers SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) .Written Answers 442 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (f) the follow up action taken by the MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Government on the April, 1987 reports? FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a)and (b). The following eight development pro- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- jects from Karnataka are awaiti ng environ- ISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRI GIRIDHAR mental clearance: I, GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The District Col- lectors of the State/UTs having minority One Limestone mining project concentration areas were requested to each of Cement Corporation initiate action to review implementation of India Ltd. and Dalmia Cements the Programmes on a mon~hly basis. The Ltd.; text of the instruction is giv~n in the State- ment below. Shima, Hippargi, Katla and (c) No, Sir. Upper Krishna Stage-II Irrigation Projects; (d) and (e). Do not arise. Mangalore Thermal Power Sta- (f) The progress in each state is reviewed tion; and regularly. STATEMENT Petro-chemical Refinery ~f t ..tin- dustan Petroleum Corporation Prime Minister had issued a 15-Point Pro- Ltd., Mangalore. gramme for minorities welfare in May 1983 and the programme was reiterated by Prime (c) All the eight projects are pending due Minister in his letter dated 28th August, 1985 to . non-SUbmission 'of requisite environ- addressed to Chief Ministers. While the State mental data. Governments had reiterated having commun- icated the programmes to the District Collec- tors for implementation, field visits by official Progress Report of Implementation of 15 of Minorities Cell to few districts revealed that some of the Collectors were not aware of the Point Directives for Minorities above programme and concrete measures had not been taken for its implementation. I 1725. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will am enclosing herewith 8 copy of the 15-Point the Minister of WELFARE: be pleased to Programme along with a copy of the Agenda state: and note for the meeting of National Integra- tion Council held on 12th September, 1986 to (a) whether Government have asked review the implementation of the above pro- District Collectors to review on a monthly gramme.l am also encloSing herewith copy of basis the progress of the implementation the relevant extracts of the programme of of the 15 Point Directive of the Prime Mini- action drawn up under the National Policy for Education 1986. for special attention to edu- ster on minorities welfare; cationallly backward groups amongst minOri- ties. You may kindly initiate action to review (b) if s~, the text of the instruction; them on a monthly basis. In particular, you may like to kindly initiate action on the follow- (c) whether the reports .are to be submit- ing points immediately:- ted by the Collectors directly to the Central Government; (i) Holding a meeting 'With the District t;d ucational Authorities and Minor- (d) whether the monthly reports are ity Educational .nstitutio_ns man- being received regu'arly since the instruc- aged by educationally backward tion was· issued; minority groups namely Muslims and Neo-Buddhists. to review the (e) the names of districts which have action under the Natior:-al Policy for reported for the month of April. 1987; and Education 1986. for specia, etten- · 443 Written Answers .AUGUST 6, 1987 Wrltt8n Answ&1a 444' tion to the education of the above the further action proposed in the matter at mentioned educationally backward the earliest to the Nodal Officer for Minority minority groups. Welfare in your State Government with a copy to this Ministry. (ii) Holding a meeting with the Man- ager of the Lead bank. General Payment Against Drafts to Wrong Manger Distr ict Industries Centre Person and representa~ive of State Minori- ties Financial Corporation (if any). 1726. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the to discuss measures for ensuring Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: flow of credit in fair and adequate measures to minorities and for improving credit absorptions (a) whether the Chandni Chowk Branch, capacity of backward minority Delhi of the State Bank of Indore had made· groups specially Artisans and payment against some drafts of Rs. 5000/- Craftsmen according to a time each to a wrong person instead of the right bound action plan for 1987-88 and one without confirming endorsement by remaining period of Seventh Five Model Town Branch of Pubjab National Year Pian. Bank in the year 1985; (iii) Organising a meeting with District (b) the action taken by the bank against Employment Exchanges Authori- ties to ensure that there is no dis- the guilty person in the case; and crimination against minorities in registration of names and in for- (c) the present position of this case? warding panels to agencies and also for sending mobile employ- THE MINISTER OF STATE INTHEMIN- ment exchanges units to minority ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- concentration areas and minority HANA POOJARy): (a) to Ccl. The State educational institutions. according Bank of Indore, Chandni Chowk Branch, to a time bound action plan for Delhi is reported to have paid two drafts of 1987-88 and the remaining period of Rs. 5000/- each presented to it by Model Seventh Five Year Plan. Town Branch of Punjab National Bank on (iv) Holding a meeting with minority behalf of a duly introduced deposit account voluntary organisations and indi- holder in whose favour the drafts were viduals to create an awareness of endorsed by the firSt payee. The first payee 15-Point Programmes and the mea- has now denied having endorsed the sures being taken up by the District drafts. The deposit holder who received the Administrations for implementation proceeds of the drafts has not been tracea- ~f the programme and the points ble. Police have for the present filed the requiring co-operation from these case as untraced. groups. (v) In case State Government has con- Nehru Centenary and 40th Independence stituted Minority Grievances Com- Day celebealloM mittee at the District/Block Level. it 1727. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the may please be ensured that the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state: . meetings are held on regular basis. (a) whether Government have consti- Ministry of Welfare would be organising tuted a Committee to chalk out the pro- meeting with District Collectors, along with grammes for the Nehru Centenary and State Government representatives to review the implementation of the programme and the 40th Independence Day celebrations from exact date and venue of the meeting will be August, 15, 1987 to 31st December, 1987: intimated to you separately. In the.meanwhile I would request you to kindty send a note on (b) If so, the composition of the the action already taken in your District and Committee; "445 Written Answers SRAVANA 15, 1~ (SAKA) 'Written Answers 446 (c) whether the Committee has chalked THE" MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- out the programmes; "'STRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARD- HANA POOJARy): (a) An amount of Rs. (d) the total anticipated amount to be " 40.78 crores approximately by way of spent for this purpose; and excise duty dues is outstanding from (e) whether financial assistance is being TiSeO. provided to States to celebrate the above functions. (b) Recovery of excise arrears is an on- going function and such steps, legal, admi- THE PRIME M,NISTER (SHRI RAJIV nistrative and others 8!f are considered GANDHI): (a) to (b): A National Commit- necessary continue to be taken from time tee of about 300 eminent persons consist- to time to realise excise arrears. ing of State Chief Ministers, a number of Central Ministers, Lt. Governors and lead- (c) Information to the extent possible is ers of various political parties and promi- being collected and will be laid on the Table nent public figures has been set U(:l to of the House. suggest ideas for the commemoration of the 40th Anniversary of India's Independ- Schol.-ships to Scheduled Castesl ence and the Jawaharlal Nehru O:.ntenary. Scheduled Tribes students Over 500 suggestions emanati •• g from the National Committee are being examined 1729. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the Min- by 20 sub-committees of the National Com- ister of WELFARE be pleased to state: mittee and the final p!":,gramme will be " chalked out by a "Steering and Coordina- (a) whether students belonging to the tion Committee under the chairmanship of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes the Prime Minister. are given/proposed to be given scholar- ships for study abroad; (c) and (d). -, he detailed programmes to be implemonted and the outlay thereon will (b) if. so, the details thereof; and be dec:ded upon after the recommenda- tions of the sutrcommittees are finalised. (c) the total number of scholarships granted in the current year? (e) No decision has so far been taken to provide any such assistance to State THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN- Governments. ISTRY OF WELFARE (SHRt GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). Under the scheme Outstanding excise Dues from TiSeO of 'National Overseas scholarships for 1728. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes. etc.; Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: candidates belonging to these groups are sent abroad for higher studies in these (a) whether an amount of Rs. 35 crores fields for which facilities are not normally by way of excise duty dues is outstanding available in India. There is no 'means test~ in from TISCO; the case of Scheduled Castes and Sche- duled Tribes candidates. Besides fees, the (b) if so, the steps taken by Govemment candidates are paid air passage, mainte- to recover the amount; and nance allowance, cost of books, essential apparatus, typing and binding of thesis, (c) whether new sanctions/licences app- study tour and equipment allowance. The lied for by TiSeO have been withheld and rates" of maintenance and equipment allo- whether the proposal to extend the Manag- wances etc., were increased recently. 25 ing Director's term by five years has also scholarships are to be awarded during the been rejected? current financial year. 447 Written Answel8 . AUGUST a, 1987 wriiten Answers 448' Pftapo.ad .... over of ScIncIa Steam 1986-87 the agreed outlay in fhe State Ntlvlgatlon Company ~ MIs.. Esser sector for this scheme was As. 150.00 ShIppIng crores. The scheme is implemented by the State and irregularities, if any, are taken 1730. SHRI S.M. GURAOOI : Will the Min- note of by the Committee on Employment ister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Guarantee Scheme which is a committee (a) whether a proposal from MIs. Essar of the State Legislature. No irregularity has Shipping Company offering to take over come to the notIce of Planning Seindia Steam Navigation Company Ltd., Commission. is under consideration of the Ministry; and Scheme for T.V. Glass Projects (b) if so, the details thereof including decision of Government? . 1732. SHAI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA: Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN- state: ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARO- (a) whether any scheme for T.V. ~Iass HANA POOJARY) : (a) and (b). The project has been submitted to Union erstwhile Shipping Development Fund Government by some units of the T.V. Committee had advanced substantial loans picture tube manufacturers; and to Scindia Steam Navigation, Company Limited. 'In view of the present unsatisfac- (b) if so, the detail~ thereof? tory financial position of the company var- THE MINISTER 0:= STATE IN THE ious alternatives for future disposition oJ MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND the company have been under considera- TECHNOLOGY AND MINISTER OF tion of th~ Government. Concrete propos- STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF als in this behalf are however: yet to emerge. OCEAN DEVELOPMENT. ATOMIC ENERGY, ELECTRONICS AND SPACE Amount given 10 Maharasi.tra Under (SHRI K.R. NARA YAf'\JAN): (a) Yes Sir. Employment Gua,.a~lee Scheme (b) Out of the 3 applications received for 1731. SHRr ARVIND TULSHI RAM glass shell manufacture, one is being KAMBLE: Will "the Minister of PLANNING promoted by Mis Samtellndia Ltd .. a Black be pleased to state: and White picture tube manufacturer. (a) the amount provided by the Union Bharat Electronics Limited is another Government to the Maharashtra picture tube manufacturer which has Government under the "Employment already set up a glass sbell plant for the Guarantee Scheme' during 1986-87: manufacture of B&W picture tubes. (b) whether Union Government have 12.00 hrs. any check over the proper utilisation of this (Interruptions) money: and (English 1 Cc) whether any cases of irregularity SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): have CORle to the notice of the Union More than two lakhs of college teachers Government in this regard? are on strike... THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MR. SPEAKER: I have already admitted MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND that. We are going to discuss it. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY SHRt BASUDEB ACHARIA: The OF PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION Minister of Human Resource Development (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). has to make a statement. All the colleges Employment Guarantee Scheme is a State and Universities are cl: :;ed. Is the Minister Plan Scheme of Maharashtra. The Union going to make a statement? Government does not provide any money SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY to Maharashtra Government under the (Katwa): Why is the Government not. Employment Guarantee Scheme. During talking to them? 449 SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl 450 (Interruption~ ) MR. SPEAKER: I have already admitted . MR. SPEAKER: I. have already said that I it. We are going to discuss it. No problem . have admitted it. (Interruptions) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: There is a compr,te deadJock. All the Colleges and MR. SPEAKER: What is the fun you get Universities are closed. Why is he not. out of this? Unnecessarily shouting. making a statement? unnecessarily wasting the time without SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Why rhyme or reason. I have said that you can is the Goverment sitting idle? discuss it. I have already decided. We are going to discu. it. What can I do? Time (Interruptions) has to be found. MR. SPEAKER: I have already admitted (Interruptions) this. We are going to discuss it. MR. SPEAKER: Do not argue with me. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: When are Sit down. we going to discuss it? 08. DATTA SAMANT: The Minister has MR. SPEAKER: We are going to discuss no time even to talk to the teachers' it next week. representatives. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Talk to him. MR. SPEAKER: What is this hullabaloo? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- Why should you shout all the time? What nagar): There is a need to order do you mean by dOing this? Mr. Acharia. Central inquiry into the Hoshiarpur how does it help you? killirlgs. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: We have to MR. SPEAKER: You give me something wait till the next week? in writing. We are going to discuss the communal situation. MR. SPEAKER: Yes, you have to. There is no time. I cannot create time. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO- WALIA (Sangrur): 35 persons have been SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA·. All the killed in Hoshiarpur. ur. Subramaniam colleges and Universities are closed. More Swamy is on fast. .. (Interruptions) than two lakh teachers are on strike. MR. SPEAKER: The House is going to DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay discuss the communal situation.. Sit down. South Central): The Ministers have no time even tu talk to the teachers' (Interruptions) representatives. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji)' (Interruptions) The Embassy people have been sending unsigned letters to Members of Parliament MR. SPEAKER: I have already admitted stating that the document is not a genuine it. VVhat is the fun of doina like this all the one... time? Even hurry takes time. Sit down. I had to find time. I. have done it accordingly. MR. SPEAKER: Let them send. That is There is no probl.em. not illegal. (Interruptions) DR. CHINTA MOHAN (Tirupati): The AUGUST&, 1~ Centr~ Government medical employees of section.. 124 of· the Major and pharmacists are on strike. The Port Trusts Act, 1963:- Minister is not taking any action. There should be a statement from the Minister. (i) G.S.R. 4n (E) published in Gazette of India dated the (Interruptions) 12th May, 1987 approving the Mormugao Port SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam).: Employees' (Allotment of Is it permisSible to make allegations Residences) Regulations. against State Government? Will it go on 1987. record? (ii) G.S.R. 523 (E) published in MR. SPEAKER: Sit down. There is Gazette of India dated the nothing on the record. I havp. not heard 12th May, 1987 approving anything. the Madras Port Trust (PenSion) Regulations, PROF. P.J. KURIEN (tdukki): You 1987. anowed me to raise it, ·Sir. What I have said is a statement of fact. (iii) G.S.A. 578 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the MA. SPEAKER: State Governments are 16th June, 1987 approving independent and autonomous. I cannot do the Kandla Port Employees' anything. (Leave) (Amendment) Regulations, 1987. [Placed in Library. See No. L T- 12.05 In. 4562/87] {English} Notifications Under Central Excise and Sales Act. Customs Act, Central Excise PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Rules, Commissions of Inquiry Act and a Statement,.:Loana floated In May and NoIIficaIions Under IIerchMt ShIpping July, 1987 Act ..d Under Major Port Trwts Act THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE JANARDHANA POOJARY): I beg to lay MINISTRV OF SURFACE TRANSPORT on the Table- (SHRI RAJESH PILOn: I beg to lay on the Table- . (1) A copy of Notification No. G.S.A . .. (1) A copy of the National Welfare 667 (E) (Hindi and English ver- Board for Seafarers (Amendment) sions) published in Gazette of Rules, 1987 (Hindi and English I ndia dated the 20th July, 1987 versions) published in Notifi- together with an explanatory cation No. G.S.A. 462 (E) in memorandum providing that in Gazette of India dated the 8th accordance with a general prac- May, 1987 under sub-section (3) tice that was prevalent at the rele- of section 458 of the Merchant vant time, the basic excise duty as Shipping Act. 1953. [Placed in well as the special excise duty on Ubrary. See No. LT-4561/87] glass and glassware falling under Item No. 23A of -the t\arstwhile -~ A copy each of the following Central Excise Tariff and used Notifications (Hindi and English within the factory of production versions) under sub-section (4) for further manufacture of other ~RAVANA 15. 1909'(SAKA) Papers LaId 454 glass and glassware shall not be dated the 18th June, 1986 required to be paid during the and l88-Customs dated period from 1st March, 1984 to 6th the 29th April. 1987 so as to May, 1984, under sub-section (2) (i) restrict the scope of of section 38 of the 'Central concessiona' rate of import Excise and Salt Act, 1944. duty of 60 per cent (basic + [~aced in Library. See No. L T- additional) on magnetic 4563/87) tapes for sound recording (ii) to delete 51. No.1 viz. (2) A copy each of the following Polyester film and (iii) Notifications (Hindi and English withdraw the counter- versions) under section 159 of the vailing duty exemption on Customs 'Act,1962:- electronic components. (i) G.S.R. 516 (E) published in (iv) G.S.R. 554 eE) published in Gazette of India dated the Gazette of India dated the 20th May, 1987 together 5th June. 1987 together with an explanatory with an explanatory memorandum prescribing memorandum seeking to a concessional rate of prescribe import duty on basic customs duty of 10 tensilised polyester film of per cent ad valorem for thickness not exceeding 39 manufacture of light microns for the. manu- commercial vehicles under facture of magnetic tapes a phased manufacturing at the rate of 30 per cent ad programme approved by valorem (basic) plus the Directorate General of Rupees 25 per kilogram Technical Development in (countervailing duty). the Ministry of Industry, (v) G.S.R. 555 (E) published in (U) G.S.R. 517 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the Gazette of India dated the 5th June. 1987 together 20th May, 1987 together with an explanatory with an explanatory memorandum seeking to memorandum prescribing prescribe basic customs an auxiliary duty of 25 pet duty of 60 per cent on cent for such light magnetic tapes other than commercial vehicles in those for sound record.ing respect of which the and also to charge auxiliary concessional rate of 10 per duty at the rate of 40 per cent basic customs duty cent ad valorem and would apply. countervailing duty at the rate of 25 per cent ad (iii) G.S.R. 553 (E) published in valorem. Gazette of India dated the 5th June, 1987 together (vi) G.S.R. 556 (E) published in with an explanatory Gazette of India dated the memorandum making 5th June. 1987 together certain amendments to with an explanatory Notification Nos. 49- memorandum prescribing Customs dated the 1st zero rate of auxiliary duty March, 344-Customs on Polyester Film for the AUGUST 6, 1987 manufacture of magnetic Gazette of India dated the tapes. 8th July. 1987 together with an explanatory memoran- (vii) G.S.R. 576 eE) and 577 (E) dum regarding exemption published in Gazette of ot styrene from the whole India dated the 16th June, of the auxiliary duty of 1987 togetner with an customs leviable thereon. explanatory memorandum regarding exemption to vessels and other floating (xii) G.S.R. 638 (E) published in structures when manu- Gazette of India dated the factured in a ware house 2nd July, 1987 together with from the whole of the basic, an explanatory memoran- additional and auxiliary dum containing Corri- duties of customs leviable gendum to Notification No. thereon. 179/86 dated the 1st March, 1986. [Placed in Library. (viii) G.S.R. 606 (E) published in See No. L T-4564/87] Gazette of India dated the 29th June. 1987 together (3) A copy of each of the following with an explanatory Notifications (Hindi and English memorandum extending versions) issued under the the validity of Notification Central Excise Rules, 1944;- No. 474/SfrCustoms dated the 28th November, 1986 (i) G.-S.R. 521 (E) published in upto the 30th June, 1988. Gazette of India dated the 22nd May, 1987 together (ix) G.S.R. 643 (E) published in with an explanatory Gazette of India dated the memorandum making 3rd July, 1987 together certain amendments to with an explanatory Notification No. 228/86-CE memorandum making dated the 3rd April, 1986 so certain amendments to as to indicate appropriate Notification No. 231- classification of hair fixer. CuStoms dated the 5th June, 1987 so as to allow (ii) G.S.R. 557 (E) published in import of "Balanced/Semi- Gazette of India dated the Tensilised Polyester Film" 5th June, 1987 together for the manufacture of with an explanatory magnetic tapes at the memorandum regarding concessional rate of duty. exemption to MagnetiC tapes for sound recording (x) G.S·.R. 650 (E) published in from the duty of excise in Gazette of India dated the excess of the amount 8th July, 1987 together with calculated at the rate of an explanatory memor- Rupees one per square andum reducing the basic metre. customs duty on styrene from (55 per cent + Rupees (iii) as.R. 572 (E) published in 5 per kg) to (25 per cent + Gazette of India dated the 1100 per tonne). 12th June. 1987 together with an explanatory (xi) G.oS.R. 651 (E) published in memorandum regarding f SRAVANA 15. 1909.{SAKA) Papers Laid 458 exemption to enamel frit dated the 1st January, 1987 from the whole of the duty so as to extend the of excise leviable thereon. concessions' rate of excise dut~ of Rupees 525 per (iv) G.S.A. 574 (E) published in kllolitre for naphtha used Gazette of India dated the as fuel to three more units, 12th June. 1987 together namely. Madras Fertilisers • Yiith an explanatory Limited. Delhi Bectric memorandum making Supply Undertaking and certain amendments to Damodar Valley Corpor- Notification No. 147/84-CE ation. dated the 18th June. 1984 so as to indicate the proper (viii) G.S.R. 664 eE) published in chemical nomenclature of Gazette of India dated the Dane Salt. 17th June, .1987 together with an explanatory (v) G.S.R. 582 (E) published in memorandum regarding Gazette of India dated the exemption to absorbent 18th June. 1987 together cotton wool, non-absor- with an explanatory bent cotton wool and memorandum regarding gauzecloth bandages from exemption to Sodium the whole of the duty of Hyplchlorite Dye carriers. excise leviable thereon softening agents and sizing subject to certain condiJions agents when used in the mentioned in the notifi- factory of production for cation. the manufacture of textiles and textile articles from the (ix) G.S.R. 665 (E) published in whole of the duty of excise Gazette of India dated the leviable thereon. 17th July, 1987 together with an explanatory (vi) G.S.R. 660 (E) published in memorandum regarding Gazette of India dated the exemption to gold potas- 17th July. 1987 together sium cyanide when used in with an explanatory the electrof!ic industry and memorandum regarding manufactured from gold . exemption to films to be from the duty of excise. screened in Film Festivals [Placed in Library. See No. under the Cultural L T -4565/87] Exchange Programme or Festival of India or (4) A copy of No. S.O. 673 (E) (Hindi Manisfestation of India to and English versions) published be held in foreign countries in Gazette of India dated the 5th from the whole of the duty July. 1987 making certain of excise leviable thereon. amendments to Notification No. S.O. 328 (E) dated the 6th April. (vii) G.S.A. 663 (E) published in 1987 issued under section 3 of Gazette of India dated the the Com.missions of Inquiry Act. 17th July, 1987 together 1952. [Placed in Ubrary See.. No. with an explanatory LT 4566/87] memorandum making certain amendments to (5) A statement (Hindi and English Notification No. lIB7-CE versions) indicating the results of AUGUST e, 1987 " , the market loans floated in May Atomic Energy (Amendment) and July, 1987. [Placed in Bill, 1987, which has been passed Ubrary. See No. L T -4567/87] by the Rajya Sabha at its sitting held on the 3rd August. 1987." AnnuIII Report and RevIew on lnclan (ii) "In accordance with the provi- In8IIIuIe of ~t, AhIlMidllbad sions- of rule III of the Rules of for 1915 • and 8 Stalement ,. : Procedure and Conduct of Busi- ..., In ..,...g ..... papers ness in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed to enclose a copy of the All India Institute of Medical THE MINISTER OF HUMAN Science and the Post-Graduate RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT AND MIN- Institute of Medical Education ISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- and Research Chandigarh FARE (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO):on (Amendment) Bill, 1987, which behalf of Shrimati Krishna Sahi: I beg to has been passed by the Rajya lay on the Table- Sabha at its sitting held on the 3rd August, 1987." 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Rajya Sabha:- MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA (1) The Atomic Energy (Amendment) (English) Bill. 1987. SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir. I have to (2) The All-India Institute of Medical report the _following messages received Sciences and the Post-Graduate the from Secretary-General of Rajya Institute of Medical Education Sabha:- and Research, Chandigarh (Amendment) Bill, 1987. (i). "In accordance with the provi- sions of rule III of the Rules of (3) The Pars; Marriage and Divorce Procedure and. Conduct of Busi- (Amendment) Bill, 1987. ness in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed to enclose a copy of the ..".,. Under Rule 371· ~VANA 15. 1909 (SAKAl AI.,., tinder Rule 3T1 462 12...... very rarely and that too·on 2nd channel. 2nd channel is uSeful only for the people COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS living in Bombay. People living in far off BILLS ANO'RESOLUTIONS areas cannot see the programmes telecast on 2nd channel. Most of the Sindhi community is staying' in Ulhasnagar, (English] I, Thane district and cannot ~ Sindhi Tblrty1lgltth Report programmes telecast on 2nd channel. SHRI M. THAMBI DURAl (Dharmapuri): T.V. is mass media for the development Sir. I beg to present the Thirty-eighth of culture and I.anguage. Sindhi Report (Hindi and English versions) of the programme is telecast on Sundays when Committee on Private Members' Bills and feature film is telecast on 1st channel. The Resolutions. result is that Sindhi programmes are not seen by large number of Sindhi community as during the same time MATTERS UNDER RULE 3n feature film is preferred by them. I, therefore, request the Government [Trans/ation] that the Sindhi programmes be telecast on Bombay Doordarshan on 1st channel instead of 2nd channel and no Sindhi (I) Non-availability text-books 0' programme be telecast on Sundays during based on new sylabus the feature film time. SHRI M.L. JHIKRAM (Mandla): Translation] Teaching has already started in schools l according to the courses of the New (III) Demand for Immeclate cIe.. .,ce Education ~Iicy. But the entire student to Bawanthacl Irrigation PrafecI community is at present very much perturbed bQcause of non-availability of SHAt KESHAORAO PARDHI books of new courses in the markets, as it (Bhandara): The joint irrigation project, is affecting their studies adversely. It is Bawanthadi of the States of Maharashtra understood that books of the courses of and Madhya Pradesh was sanctioned with the new education policy have not far so the consent of both the States. Work on been published. It is very regrettable. With this project was started in 1974. It was the introduction of New Education policy, agreed that both the States, Maharashtra the books too ought to have been brought and Madhya Pradesh will dig canals in out. The Government should pay attention their respective areas and the construction towards it and publish the books on work of the dam will be undertaken by priority basis so that the problem of the Madhya Praaesh. Work on canals was students and the readers of these started in both the States as per the books is solved and they are able to agreement. About 70 percent of canals have continue their studies along smooth lines. been constructed in Maharashtra. But the work on the dam was started in 1978. Later [English] in 1980. the work was stopped consequent upon the enforcement of the Forest Act. A (II) Demand for telecast of Sindhi sum of the order of As. 22 crores has already progt...... on a-tneI 1 been spent by both the States on this Instead of ~ 2 on Bombay project. The cost of ·this project works out DoorcIInhan to As. 119 crores. This·project was sent to SHRt S.G. GHOLAP (Thane): Sindhi Central water Commission for sanction in programmes are telecast from .Bombay 1974. The sanction is stil awaited. The hon. ,AUGUST is,''987 [Shri Keshaorao) should· be allowed to fat out II portion of this house or the full Minister of Forests. Government of h_ldla house. visited the project site in May, 1978 to make would urge the Government to an on-the-spot study. This irrigation Project is likely to irrigate one lakh acres of land implement these suggestions in order to and it will irrigate those areas which suffer check corruption. from drOught every year due to less rainfall. I request the Government of India to clear the Bawanthadi Project without [English] delay and direct the State Government to implement it immediately so that the (v) Demand for Setting up Rubber bMed IndusIrIea In farmers of this area are saved from the lean,..,....., drought every year. The farmers are very Taml Nadu much worried, as there has been no rainfall SHAI N. DENNIS (Nagercoil): at all. Kanya Kumari district is the most suitable place in the country for the establishment (Iv) Demand for eff8CIIve ...... to of rubber based industries or for a ·tyre lOOt out ConuptIon factory fYer acre production of rubber here is the highest in the country. It occupies the ·SHAI ANAOI CHARAN DAS (Jaipur): second place in the total production of It is a matter of great concern that rubber-next only to Kerala. Kanyakumari corruption is rampant in every walk of our district has been ctassified as industrially life. The reasons of corruption are not far backward and high hopes have been to seek. The root cause of corruption is the . aroused among the people by this growing wantonness and desire to amass classification. They are, however, wealth. The growing corruption leads to frustrated and disappointed when they exploitation. Therefore, it is very necessary find that this acknowledgement of to put an end to exploitation. Some backwardness is on paper and has not stringent measures are necessary to stop been translated into action by establishing corruption. We have to change the whole industries there. It is regrettable that not economic policy if we aim at checking even a single industry, eitner in the public corruption and thereby putting an end to sector or in the private sector has been .exploitation. established thete. The percentage of literacy there is high. The encouragement I would like to give the following sugges- and patronage extended to some other tions to achieve the above objectives:- backward areas has not been extended to this district. To obviate the prevailing acute unemployment and economic deteriora- 1. All the currency notes of Rs. tion of this area, it ;s requested that a 50/- and As. 100/- denomination rubber based industry or a tyre factory be shoutd be demonetised and new set up in Kanya Kumari district. currency notes of the same denominations should be intro- (vi) Demand tor SettIng up • publIC duced. MClor Industry In TIrupIIII In Aneth... Pnldeah 2. A ceiling should be fixed on moveable and immoveable property. DR. CHINTA MOHAN (Tirupati): Royalseema of Andhra Pradesh where 3. 9ne family should be allowed Tirupati, Chittoor and Cuddapalu and to live in one house and nobody Anantpur are, located. happen to be the The • .,.Iob w_ originally delivered In any•. 465 . Matter Under. Rule 377 SRAVANA 15,·1909 (SAKA) Payment of Gratuity 486 (Amdt.) Bill most backward areas where there is a lot of Darbhanga a few years ago, Mithita region unemployment and drought due to which of North Bihar has virtually become indus- these people are struggling for one square try less. This was a joint venture of the meal per day. The unemployed youths are Governments of Assa"1 and Bihar. Whe- not getting loans from the banks due to reas the Assam Unit of Ashok Paper Mills indifferen\ attitude of the banks causing a has been rehabilitated after the implemen- lot of concern and harassment for the tation of Assam Accord. the Bihar Unit has youths. The weaker sections of these areas been left in the lurch, throwing nearly four are being deprived of the said facility of thousand workers out of job. Because of loans due to lack of conviction on the part the closure of Ashok Paper Mills nearly of bank officials. Keeping in view the thirty thousand people of Mithila region helplessness of the people of Tirupati, I are on the verge of starvation. We have request the Government to consider been urging upon the Central Government setting up a public sector industry or an for the last two and a half years to make ordnance factory in Tirupati. arrangements for the reopening of this Mill. Nearly a year ago, we were assure~ by 12.13 hrs. the Union Government that serious efforts were being made to reopen this factory in [MR. DEpUTY SPEAKER in the chair] collaboration with the Bihar Government and some financial institutions. This had made the people of Mithila region very (vii) Demand for Converting Blttra- hopeful, but nothing definite has been gunta Loco Shed Into an Electric heard since then. I. therefore. earnestly loco POH shed in Andhra Pradesh request the Central Government to make serious efforts to rehabilitate Ashok Paper SHRI B.N. REDDY(Miryalguda): Bittra- Mills and save thousands of people from gunta loco shed is located on the line from starvation. Vijayawada to Madras in Nellore district. A.P. State. This loco shed is one of the 12.15 hrs. oldest with an investment of Rs. 50 crores; but it is being wasted as railways have not PAYMENT OF GRATUITY (AMEND- made out any plan for its utilisation. So the MENT) BILL-contd. loco shed has become redundant and is to be closed. The shed could have been uti- [English] lised by the railways by converting it fOI MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I wish to some other useful purpose, such as Peri- inform the House that we witi take up item . odical Overhaul Shed (POH) for electric No. 7 motion for appointment of a Joint engines. A demand to convert this loco Committee immediately after the lunch shed into electric loco POH shed was break. Now we are taking up Item No.8. made as .early as in 1980 but nothing has further consideration of Payment of Gra- been done so far. As there are plans to tuity (Amendment) Bill moved by Shri P. A. electrify the entire Vijayawada Division, it San9ma on the 3Oth.July. 1987. Shri K. N would be better if this loco shed ;s con- Pradhan may continue his speech. verted into Electric Loco POH sheet I request the Minister of Railways to look into it. [Translation] (viii) Demand tor Fe.. opening the Ashok Paper Mn" Darbhanga in SHRI K.N. PRADHAN (Bhopal): Mr. BIhar Deputy Speaker, SIr, the other day also while speaking on the Bill I was drawing DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur) : the attention of the han. Minister towards After the closure of Ashok Paper Milts in the fact that he has· fixed the amount of 467 Payment of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1987 , (AffJdt.) Bill 468 [Shri K.N. Pradhan) to pay either simple interest or ~he interest payable on fixed deposits. We have seen gratuity at Rs~ 50,000, instead of an amount that the worker does not get the payment equal to that of 20 months' salary. In tt:"is of his provident fund on his ~tirement. connection, my submission was that your Even after his death his children run from action in raising the limit of eligibility from pillor to post to get that payment but they As. 1600 to Rs. 2500 does not appear to be do not get it. Therefore, this Bill should be proper. because when this law was a deterrent so as to save the workers from enacted, the number of people drawing Rs. this harassment and to dissuade the mill- "1600/- as salary was very less. oln any owners from this sort of arbitrariness. This concern there used to be only one or two will ensure them timely payment. Hence, such executives as were in receipt of more there should be a provision to charge than Rs. 1,600 as their salary. Now raising penal interest on such delayed payments. this eligibility limit to Rs. 2,500 is in no way Then only the workers will be able to get ojust and proper. Therefore, this limit needs their gratuity amount in time. to be increased further or it should be totally abolished. If it is proposed to raise it, Similarly, the provision of insurance is then this limit of Rs. 50,000 will also have to a"lso welcomed but the provision for the be raised, otherwise it cannot be called a fund being sought to be created will be good legislation. Therefore, in my opinion apploicable only in the case of those this clause of Rs. 25,000 should be deleted factories where the number of employees as its deletion is not going to make any is hundred or more. The said provision difference. should apply to those factories also where - the number of workers is only ten. This Now the gratuity Act provides for fund should be maintained by the payment of only 15 days' gratuity in a year. Government and not allowed to be kept Sir, our Bonus Act also provides for the with the'factory owners as in that case, the payment of at least one month's salary as workers will find it difficult to get it. bonus. On that basis, I would like to tell that this amount is earned by the Even after doing all those things, you employees. So, whether it is bonus or have not evolved any monitOring system. gratuity, this should be one month instead There is no monitoring committee to of 15 days. check periodical.ly whether the workers who have retired have got their dues in Similalry, you have said that gratuity will time or not. Unless you set up such a be paid after 5 years of service. I, do not Committee, all your efforts to amend the find any justification in it. Therefore, the law or to bring about any improvement will gratuity should also be paid after one prove fruitless. I hope the hon'ble Minister year's service. Similarly, the temporary will positively consider °all these workers who have put in one year's suggestions made by me and other service and leave service on disciplinary hon'ble Members. With these words, I grounds, should also be eligible for getting support this Bill. gratuity. " [English] Sir, In case payment is not made in time, there is a provision to pay interest. It makes DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South no difference if you charge simple interest Central): Sir, before coming to this Bill, 01 or interest payable on fixed deposits, would like to point out that for the last three 0 because the capitalists and big people do years , am hearing in this House that the not incur any loss on that account. They Government is going to consider all the charge interest at the rate of 25 to 30 per labour laws; they are going to bring cent on black money and earn much more forward a comprehensive legislation all than that. Hence they do not find it difficult together about provident funC:S. acc'd~t ' 469 P1iyment of Gratuity SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) (Amdt.) BiN 470 claims, industrial disputes, etc. I am for a not get gratuity; in the Bayer, 50 per cent composite and good legislation. It is will not get gratuity and in Colour-Chern needed in this country. too, 50 per cent will not get gratuity. In spite of the revised limit of Rs. 2,500, 70 to Sir, during the last week, the Supreme 80 per cent of workers in Bombay are not Court t;'ad specifically said that the going to get the gratuity. Sir, why not make Industrial Disputes Act needs a basic and this limit indefinite? Such a law is absurd considerable change. ·1 blame the as far as .Bombay is concerned. At present, Government for delay in reforms. It is not we are giving gratuity to employees interested in labour welfare. The drawing wages upto As. 1600. It is now Government is not interested to reform proposed to raise this limit to Rs. 2500 for any of the labour laws. Whatever you are payment of gratuity-of course, Rs. 1600 planning, it is to ban a strike, to ban a lock- per month limit is much less. Even then, out, to ban a union and to 8$k for their many workers in the pharmaceutical and accounts. These are all retrograde steps. ·chemical companies would not be entitled to get gratuity. There are a number of such Sir'- seven crore people are unemployed companies like NOCll, then steel and tyre in this country. There is no effective law companies, which can afford to pay court or labour commissioner. There is not gratuity to their workers, Rs. 50000 or As. a simple Act to decide the share of the one lakh, but many workers would not be workmen. Even if an employer earns a covered. In fact, the people at the helm of profit, my information is that nobody affairs in these companies are indulging in shows the profit correctly. When he earns a lot of black money. In fact. no limit should so much money, a reasonable share be fixed for payment of gratuity. If that is should be given to the workman as he is not agreed to, the limit should be raised increasing the growth. But such type of so that more workers are covered and they law is not existing in this country for about may get a lakh or two lakhs of rupees after 20 crores of workers in this country. The putting in thirty or forty years of service. minimum wage has not been Why are you bothered about the big implelemented in 50 per cent of the States people? You cannot control them; you of this country. This is the position even in have no restriction on them. They are some of the opposition ruled States. This enjoying all the concessions for starting shows the apathy and negligence. This new industries. And why thi~ restriction on shows that they are not bothered about the payment of gratuity to workers. in those welfare of workers. They are starving the establishments? ·1 suggest that the industry. Do you want to close the Government should raise this limit for industries in. Bombay and start them in enabling more employees to get gratuity. U.P. or Bihar and start paying a worker There should .be-no limit, in fact, and the Rs. 10 or 15 in spite of his hard work? Sir, workers who have put in thirty or f~ coming to the point, the Hon'ble Minister is years of service in an industry .should ge1 raising the qualifying limit for gratuity from this gratuity. The limit, otherwise, should Rs. 1,600 to Rs. 2,500. In spite of this, the be raised substantially. workers are not going to get any monetary gain. Some of my colleagues have already The hone Members may be concerned spoken on this point very nicely. You see, about the public sector undertakings. I can the employers are earning and having a lot understand that~ All the public sector of black money. Swiss money. You can undertakings are Government concerns. If raise the limit. There is no problem. I think they cannot affof(~ to pay a higher this law is very absurd as far as Bombay is quantum of gratuitY, there can be a concerned. separate limit for payment of grauity for them. You are already having such a Sir, in Premier Automobiles, as per your difference in the case of LIe scheme. You revised Act, 90 per cent of the workers will are keeping· Government factories aloof. 471 Payment of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1987 [Dr. Da~ Samant] be divided by 22 only and then calculations made. Whafever you are suggesting in this Why not have similar provision in this case Bill, by that the workers are going to get 15 also? Let the workers in Modi concerns, per cent more amount. As I said, there are Glaxo a~ other industries get two or three some factories where the working days are lakhs of rupees gratuity. Why are you as 22 in a month. What I did in Bombay some bothered about these companies? 15 or 20 years back, the Centre is now taking it up. In all big factories in Bombay, Then, what about the minimum wages? like the German Remedies, Crompton, Let us do something in their case also. etc., the monthly salary is taken and it is There are sixteen crores of unorganized divided by the number of working days, Le. labour. There are factories with ten, fifteen 22. So, my suggestion is that while com- or twenty workers. We talk of poor people, puting the gratuity amount, where there but is this Government interested in them? are 26 working days you divide the Why don't you start with ~ome minimum monthly salary by 26 and where it is 22, you gratuity for such people? I "hink, the divide it by 22 so that the total quantum win mi~imum wage in this country should not increase by another 15 per cent. . be less tN!n Rs. 11. It is Rs. 6 per day in Maharashtra as also in some of the other States. Let it be any State, but I suggest Now, on page 3, it has been mentioned that you start with some minimum gratuity that instead of "20 months' salary" the' on the basis of wages. It will enable lower words "50,000 rupees" shall be substituted. people also to get this benefit. You start They say they have a lot of love for the with any amount. I suggest that it should workman, but I must say that as per the be As. 1000 minimum. That would give a existing law. not a single employee is positive indication that the Government is going to receive more than Rs. 50,000. Rs. interested in the welfare of the workers. 1600 is the maximum amount on which the gratuity will be paid. Supposing a man is There is another suggestion which the appointed at the age of 18 years, for how hone Minister is making. He is including the long do you expect him to work? Do you dependent parents of wife also in clause 2. expect him to work for 42 years? Nobody I support this amendment. works for 42 years, but still let us take the extreme case. So, his gratuity will be 21 Then, clause 4 on page 2 of the Bill. months' salary or if may be, in cases where . While calculating gratuity, the total salary there are 26 working days, about 22 or 23 of the month is taken and divided by 26 months' salary. Thus, as per the existing days. In that case, workers will get hardly payment of gratuity scheme nobody is 15 per cent more. In seme of the factories, gOing to receive more than Rs. 34,000. particallarly the multi-national ones, they Therefore, I would say that this is an work for 22 days. There are factories like absurd clause and it should be withdrawn. Glaxo and others. Therefore, in such I would say, this is a political clause which cases, where the working.days are 22, the is there just to please the people. Actually, monthly salary should be divided by 22. By nobody is interested in the welfare of the that, workers will get another 15 per cent labour of this country. As per the existing amount. If you agree to· that, workers in law, nobody will get more than Rs. 34,000 these factories will benefit a lot. as gratuity and you keep on saying that this will come to about Rs. 50,000. If you Then. there is a Supreme Court judge- insist on Rs. 50.000, then the gratuity ment also in the case of Glaxo versus the should ~ paid on the amount of As. Union about four years back. The Supreme 25,000, but that you are not gOing to do. Court in that judgement said that the Therefore, these are absurd clauses, which monthly salary of the workers where in are there just to satiSfy the people and get. factories the working days are 22, should the pUblicity. It is all that and nothing el~. 473 Payment of Gratuity SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 474 appreciate the Hon. Minister's stand framed. But I once again appeal that the taken under Clause 4(8). workman should get interest on gratuity at the time of his retirement. as is being done About 1.70.000 factories and about 1 now in the case of pr~vident fund. crores of workers are affected because of Government have even raised the rate of the clospre of the factories. They are not interest on provident fund to 11 per cent. If going to get the provident fund. Had you you do not pay interest on gratuity, the started such type of compulsory insurance workman will be put to a disadvantage. long back. the "'YorkerS;' would have got a The gratuity money is used by. the lot of benefit out of this. Still. I think this is employer for a n.umber of years. And in this the positive step which the hon. Minister country, the value of rupee is going down. has· taken and for which I really In the last 30 years, the value of rupee haS compliment him. Here the worker or the come down to just 14 paise. If the gratuity employer has to compulsorily start the is going to be paid after 20 or 30 years and insurance and the instalment, which must if no interest is paid on the gratuity. then be deposited to the Insurance Company, is value of the gratuity money in real terms is paid from the b~ginning. So, there is going to be much less. Government somewhat security for the workers' should take care of these things and see gratuity and more than 500 Dr so workers that the employee gets a good amount of will be benefited by this Compulsory gratuity at the time of retirement. Provident Fund Scheme. But, I am afraid if this law will be implemented? Sir, here I As far as provident fund is concerned, wish to draw the attention of the Han. there is a provision which enables the Minister to the ~act that Child Labour workers to get loan on the grounds of Abolition Act was discussed here for 15 sickness, construction of a house, etc. I days. We have long speeches but can the would suggest that the workers should get Hon. Minister make a statement in this this type of loans under the LIC scheme House that even 1 per cent of this Child also. It will not be difficult for the Labour Abolition Act has been Government to frame rules in this regard, implemented. We sitting within the four especially when 50 per cent of the LIC walls of this august House, discuss a lot of operations are under the Government. things. like Child Labour, Labour Gratuity, Share of workman, etc., but this As regards Clause 7. I appeal to the Government is not at all interested in the Government to withdraw it. If an employee implementation of any of these schemes. dies or retires, gratUity should be paid You suggest a lot of things, but where is within a month. Under this Clause 7. if the machinery to implement all these gratuity is not paid within a month, there is things. But, I would say that Clause 4 a provision to pay interest on the amount. ,I which is about the compulsory insurance am afraid. this is going to be a very big of the workers, must be properly loophole. All the employers lend this implemented. gratuity amount at 20 to.30 per cent and carry on their business. This clause. In this regard, I am going to give you two enables them to withhold the payment of suggestions. At the time of retirement, gratuity by paying a paltry 10 per cent when the workman gets his gratuity. he interest and using the money for their own should get interest on the instalments paid advantage. So. in spite of the strict laws, by him. Now I do not know in what way you nobody is going to pay the gratuity i~ time. are going to frame the rules with regard to Therefore, if the hone Minister is really this LIC scheme. You do not know the sincere, he should see to it that gratuity is exact date on which the workman retires paid wit"in one month. It must be made and the number of instalments ~id by compulsory for the employer to pay him. Therefore, all these details have to be gratuity within one month of the worked out and proper rules should be workman's retirement. Therefore, all the 475 PiJyment of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1.987' (Amdt.) 9111 416' (Dr. Datta Samant] ·hon. Minister. have also moved some amendments in this regard and I request clauses under Section 3A should be totally the hon. Minister to take them into deleted. consideration. I have just one or two suggestions to [Translation] make and I will not take much time of the House. A workman is eligible for gratuity SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS (Bhilwara): only after five years of service. This time Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support this limit of five years is a little too high. To Bill and want to make some suggestions to become permanept in the service, it takes a the hon. Minister. As was just now stated, workman about five years, and he has to previously a worker used to become wait another five years to become eligible entitled to get gratuity after completing for gratuity. Taking advantage of this one year service. Now, this period of one provision, many employers are year has been changed into five years. terminating the services of their There was a provision to pay gratuity to a employees, just to avoid payment of ,worker who has completed 240 days of gratuity. Even in Bombay, they are service in a year. But now this period of resorting to such practices. So, I would service has been increased to five years. It suggest that this qualifying period of has been stated that many owners assume service should be reduced from five years different names and do all sorts of wrong to one year. things. It is a fact and there is no doubt about it. Last time also when you had Secondly, the ceiling on the number of brought an amendment we had submitted workers in an establishment should be that this period of five years is too long. completely removed. In the Maharashtra This should be reduced to one year. If you Assembly also, for the last 20 years, this are convinced, do it in the present Bill and point is being diSCUSSed. Even if there is other Bill may be brought forward for the only one workman, he should be paid purpose. gratuity. What is the difficulty in doing this? Why do you want a certain number of I want to tell you by way of an example workers to pay gratuity? Whether it is a big that there are so many textile mills and establishment or a small unit, even if there other factories where they employ is only one workman, gratuity should be substitute workers who are never given paid. work on perman-ent basis. These substitutes do not get work for 240 days in While concluding, I would like to a year. Even if some worker has put in 240 reiterate -that the five years of service days of service in ~ year he would get should be reduced to one year; wage limit gratuity only after 5 years. Therefore. a of As. 2500/- per month sho~.. dd be provision be made so that those workers changed,' because big bosses can pay who have worked for a period of 240 days much more; the monetary ceiling of .Rs. in a year must get gratuity. This will benefit 50,000 should be raised to rupees one both the substitute workers as well as the lakh; rules must be framed enabling the permanent workers. workers to get loans from the llC; at the time of retirement, workmen should be One more suggestion has been made by paid interest on their gratuity amount; and the hon. Member from Bhopal that instead the clause which provides for interest if the of 15 days, one month's salary should be gratuity is not paid within one month paid by way of gratuity. Even in the case of must be completely deleted. compensation you have provided for one month instead of 15 days. tf you do it in the Atl these suggestions are very practical case of gratuity also, it wUl be a great help oneS and theSe should be accepted by the to the worker in his old age. At present, 4n payment o~ Gratuity SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) (Amdt.J Bill 478 ·there is .a limit of As. 50,000 for gratuity. But registered with the controlling in no case anybody gets :more than Rs. authority in the prescribed 30,000 or As.. 35,000. If you agree to my manner and no employer shall be ·above proposal, a worker will be able to registered under the provisions come up to the limit of Rs. 50,000 it will of this section unless he haS benefit all workers. taken an insurance referred to , I, in sub-section (1) or has, You have mentioned about machinery in established an approved gratui~ the financial memorandum and about . fund referred to in sub-section Industrial relations you have said that a (2)." Assistant Labour Commissioner (Central) will be empowered for registration. He will [Translation] work for registration of deposits 'for the trust proposed to be created for gratuity Labour Commissioner is not able to take deposits. You know how efficient is your any action against big capitalists. You have labour department. Crores of rupees of g-iven a free hand to those capitaliSts by provident fund have net been deposited making such a provision. You have not yet. People have not been issued even punished anyone according to the receipts therefor. No action has been taken provision of this Bill. Not a single against persons who have not deposited it. prosecution has been launched against Again you are giving more powers to the the capitalists by the labour department. Assistant Labour Commissioner. How will Hence this amendment is not proper,. it is he solve all these problems of gratuity and not in the interest of the worker. Capitalist how will he register the deposits? If you has been given a free hand in regard to the want to give benefit to big capitalists, then registration of the trust fund. But no that is a different matter. You provide for definit~ provision has been made for the some good machinery to attend to their deposit of the trust fund and payment of problems. Then only the workers will be gratuity to the worke~. Therefore, hon'ble benefited. It is very necessary to set up Minister should withdraw this provision of such a machinery. trust fund. There must be compulsory insurance so that when the worker retires, I want to congr~tulate you for making a he gets his gratuity from the insurance good provision for insurance in this Bill. fund immediately. This provision of trust But there is also a lacuna in it. A worker fund will not help the worker in any way. In who is not able to go in for insurance, will this context I want to submit that: have to take the permiSSion of the commisSioner for registration. You know [English] that employers do not deposit the provident f~nd amounts of the workers "(6) whoever contravenes the and use that amount elsewhere. You could provisions of sub-section (5) not take any action in this regard. They shall be punishable with fine also gobble up the depreciation fund and which may extend to ten all other funds and after that delcare the thousand rupees and in the case industry sick. You have made a new of a continuing offence with a provision in it- further fine which may extend to one thousand rupees for each [English] day during which the o~oe continues." "(3) For the purpose of effectively implementing the provision of [Translation] this section, every employer shall within such time as may be You have providetl that whoever prescribed get t}is establishment contravenes these provisions shall be 479 Payment of G;atuity AUGUST 8, 1987 IShri Girdhari Lal Vyas~ happen to be very clever and can do all sorts of mischiefs. The provision for interest will go against the interests of the punishable with imprisonment for: 30 workers. With these words, I support this months and fine which will be ten Bill and conclude. thousand rupees. But upt~ now no employer has been punished and no [English] action has been taken against anyone. Last time when I asked a specific question SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North in this regard, the hon'ble Minister had Central): I rise to support the Payment of replied that there is no such provision for Gratuity (Amendment) Bill 1987 which is non-payment of provident fund and that before the House, particularly the two we cannot prosecute anyone in this improvements which are being made in regard. There is a clear provision in the the Gratuity Bill, namely the coverage of Indian Penal Code in this regard. I request the Act for the wages upto Rs. 2,500 and you to take strong action against the the compulsory insurance of an capitalists and the workers would be paid employer's liability to pay gratuity or their dues. There is another provision. You alternatively to set up a gratuity fund, these have said about the interest: two improvements are welcome. They were due for a long time, but several [English] amendments which are required for a long time are not touched by this amending Bill. "Provided that no such interest The Government has been promising, in shall be payable if the delay in the fact, since 1985, to bring some payment is due to the fault of the amendments to the Gratuity Bill; they are employee and the employer has also not covered by this amending Bill. For obtained permission in writing example. I find that as far back as 13th from the controlling authority for May, 1985, in The Hindustan Times, it was the delayed payment on this reported that the government was ground." considering a proposal to extend payment of Gratuity Act to all _establishments [Translation] irrespective of the number of workmen they employed, and the Act was likely to be This provision is also not in the interest amended to extend the gratuity benefit to all of the workers. The capitalists use all the employees irrespective of their period of means to harass the workers. Regarding employment. This was the statement made interest you have said that if the delay in by the th-en Labour Minister. In this Bill, I the payment is due to the fault of the do not see that amendment coming even employee and the employer has obtained still. Therefore, my submission is that it permission in this regard no interest is should have been done; but if it has not payable. This provision may be withdrawn been done now, at least, as early as and the period of service for becoming possible, all the workers should be entitled to get gratuity may be reduced to covered, all the establishments, one year. irrespective of the number of employees they employ should be covered by this. The proviso to institute a trust fund must be deleted. You have the provision of I would support many of my colleagues providing insurance ~ver to companies who have put this view that even the having more than 500 employees. What is minimum service of five years is not the hann if this facility is extended to necesSary to qualify for the gratuity. as far companies having only 10 employees? It as this Act is concemed. will boost insurance a great deal and provide safety to the labourers. Employers And, as , said, this suggestion that they 481 Payment of Gratuity S~VANA 15, 1909 (SAKA.) (Amdt.) Bin 482 would cover' all the establishments harsh. If that was the attitude of tt.e then irrespective of the number of employees Labour Minister on 3rd June 1985, I would was announced as far back as May 1985 like to know from the Govemment why and I do not see that amendment in this that step is not taken while bringing· this Bill. amending bill before this House. And, I. \. would urge upon the Government to Similarly, the Government has been honour that commitment and bring such promising and there is demand also, that an amendment as early as possible. more harsh punishment should be given to those employers who fail to pay gratuity. Now, in this Bill also a very obnoxious Here it is only provided that for delayed amendment is made as far as the ceiling is payment simple interest will be paid. But, concerned. The .0rigin~1 ceilinQ was 20 as many of my colleagues have said, this is months wages. The G·overnment wants to no punishment at all. You are aliowin.Q an substitute it by As. 50,000/-. Now this employer to use that fund for his industry amendment goes not only ,",~against their by paying some simple interest. That is own suggestion, not only against the beneficial to him. That is no punishment at Supreme Court judgement, but it will also all. against the present provisions of the Bill also. Sir, what is provided here? It is pro- And here also, I will point out that it was vided that the qualifying salary for this is reported in the Economic Times, as far now Rs. 2,500/-. Not only that; but it says back as on 3rd June 1985, at Calcutta, that that "such higher arnount as the Central the then Labour Minister had said on the Government may. having regard to the 2nd June, 1985: general level of wages, by notifi~tion, specify" be substituted. So, it .is contem- Uln order to compel manage- plated that "two thousand five hundred or a ments to make statutory higher amount" will be qualifying wages. payments like Provident Fund, So, from time to time the Government is ESI and gratuity regularly, the also going to change this figure according Union Government proposed to to the general·level of wages. So, if that is make some strict penal so notified. if it is increased from 2,SOOthen provisions in the law. this sum of Rs. 50,000 will be a ridiculous sum because there is no provision that will Disclosing this here today. also be increased correspondingly along Mr. T.Anjaiah, Union Labour with the general level of wages. Minister, said, the proposed 13.00 ..... amendments would be made as 'harsh' as possible so that this I will point out that the Indian National long standing 'guilt' on the Trade Union Congress has calculated that national conscience was at the. rates which are suggested in the completely wiped out. amending Bill for 20 months salary it He disclosed the amendment comes to Rs. 57,692: according to the would contain deterr~nt penal formula given. According to the formula clauses providing for denial of contemplated in this amending Bill the bank and institutional finances. highest limit or the ceiling would come to fresh licences and other facilities Rs.57.6921-. usually given to the Corporate sector." Now, why the'Govemment has changed Mr. Deputy-Speaker, in this Bill also that to fifty thousand? It is a retrograde step as harsh punishment provision is not there. To far as the labour is concerned. With one aeny them Institutional finance, to deny hand, they raised the qualifying amount. them their licences and to deny them other Now, ttle ceiling is only fifty thousand. facUities given to the corporate sector. it is Therefore, I submit that this is not only 48S Payment of Gratuity .AUGUST -6, 1887 :MOtIon tfF. Joint ·484- (Admt). BiR committee on Bofors [Shri Sharad Oighel setting up a National Labour Commission, (and this is my agamst the Bill, but goes against the suggestion also) which may be Supreme Court judgement, which says entrusted not only with the task of that 26 days should be calculated and making periodical review of such aCCOrdingly ceiling should be fixed. social welfare legislations from Therefor:e from the provisions of this Bill. time to time, but also to suggest this ceiling is not correct and the Labour radical reforms of the law relating Minister, I think. has not applied his mind to Industrial Relations which properly and I say that he has relied merely must be brought in tune with the on the bureaucrats in fixing the ceiling.and changing needs of the society... " the lobby of the employers has succeeded in getting this amendment as far as this Bill I would urge upon the Government that is ,concerned. this suggestion should be' accepted. ~ , Otherwise, such labou r beneficial I ~ill just make my last suggestion within legislation lags behind. Now. here also we two minutes. see that this Bill was introduced in RaJya Sabha on 18th March 1987. Still we are Such beneficial legislation takes a lot of discussing this. This is getting the last time. Even though the amendment was priority. Whenever we have some time, we suggested by the Supreme Court in 1980 are intervening with this and trying to get in the Judgement of Digvijay Woollen Mills on with this. The labour beneficial Ltd.. , it is reported in the Labour Law legislation should get the most priority and JoDrnal Vol. II-Page 252. we took so many this Labour Commission should be set up yearS to arrive at 26 days formula. Apart so that it will be attended to as early as frain this, the Supreme Court has also possible. -made observations in the subsequent days that the Government should not take such With 'these words, I conclude. a long time to make necessary amendments as far as the beneficial 13.04 hrs. legislation of retirement benefits are concerned: The Lok sabha adjoumed for L~nch till Fourteen of the Clock. In another case-Jeewanlal Ltd.; it is reported in the Labour Law Joumal, Vol. II, 1984 Page 464-it is suggested by the The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Supreme Court in the last para as under: Lunch at Fourteen of the Clock M'n retrospect. we wish to impress r~. SPEAKER in the Chair) upon the Government that whenever such doubt or difficulty MOTION RE: APPOINTMENT OF A is expressed by the High Courts, JOINT COMMITTEE TO ENQUIRE 'INTO the application' of provisions' of THE ISSUES, ARISING FROM THE social security measures. viz. REPORT OF SWEDISH NATIONAL retiral benefits, gratUity', AUDIT BUREAU ON THE BOFORS provident Fund and pension, and CONTRACT-Contd. the like-they must always intlOduce legislation to cure the [English] difficutties rather than wait for judiciat interpretation by the THE PRIME MINJSTER (SHRJ RAJIV highest court. We may also add GANDHI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, with your that the Governmen,' may permission, I would like to make a brief' consider the desirability of intervention. SRA,VANA 15. 1909 (SAKA~ .' ComfnittBe on Bofors 486 During the course of discussions on the court orders are obtained in Bofors case, both inside and outside the I. Switzerland. House, many allegations have been made. Rumour and unfounded suspicion have (b) The Swiss Federal Act on been used to" tarnish the image of the International ~utual Assistance country ~nd its leadership. in Criminal Matters (I MAC) would enable mutual assistance I categorically declare, in this the highest where acts in respect of which forum of India's democracy that neither I assistance is sought satisfy nor any members of my family have criteria of dual criminality and the received any consideration in these State seeking assistance transactions. That is the truth. guarantees reciprocity to the Swiss authorities. If the above I have repeatedly stated in both Houses conditions are satisfied. Swiss that if enquiries establish that any person authorities would entertain has been guilty of receiving illegal request for assistance in criminal payment. the strongest action under the matters under the provisions of law will be taken. IMAC and suitable' proceedings would be initiated in Swiss courts The Congress and its Government are for obtaining information from , as interested as anyone else in finding out the concerned bank. the truth. Let all sections of the House cooperate in this common task. (c) Tax evasion or violation of foreign exchange regulations would not be regarded as THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND THE criminal offences by Swiss MINISTER OF COMMERCE (SHRI authorities. NARAYAN DATI TIWARI): During the debate questions concerning the inquiry into (d) Information obtained under Swiss Accounts and about the action .MAC would not be used for any taken against Shri W.N. Chadha have been purpose other than one for which raised. I will seek to deal with these two it ~ intended. issues. (e~ Assistance from the Swiss As hone Members are aware. the authorities under IMAC would be Government has been concerned about obtained even without entering Indians having accounts with Swiss Banks into 8 bilateral treaty/agreement without . due permission and the with Switzerland provide(j that knowledge of the Government. In order to the requirements of dual explore the possibility of finding out the criminality and reciprocity are details of Swiss Accounts by resident satisfied. Entering into a treaty or Indio and the .steps that could be taken agreement would. however. in this context, a team of experts headed enable assistance even beyond by Dr. A. Ghosh. Dy. Governor. Rase"" the provisions of IMAC being Bank of India, visited Switzerland and hefd extended and p\ac\ng an discussions with the Swiss authorities. The obligdtion on Swiss authorities to team came to the following conclusions: provide assistance according to the terms of treaty or agreement. (a) Swiss authorities would not permit generalised tnquiry or furnish ordinary information 3. The' Govemment are aware that some about, the customers' accounts Indian citizens have clandestine deposits unless specific and appropriate in foreign banks. The origin of these 487 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6. 1981 COmmittee on "Bofors ... [Shri Narayan Datt Tiwari] SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- nag~r): On a point of order, Sir. deposits is from various illegal practices MR. SPEAKER: What is your pOint of such as invoice manipulation on order? ex portslimports \ illegal retention abroad of commissions on exports, illicit traffic in SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I would drug and smuggling of Indian currency like to know the subject on which the new etc. In order to intensify action against Finance Minister is making the statement. economic offenders, Government has decided to enter into a treaty for mutual MR. SPEAKER: It is all right. That is what assistance in criminal matters with Swiss we are discussing. There is' no point of authorities. and pending conclusion of order. Overruled. such treaty or agreement, entering into a Memorandum of UnderstanJing with SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN (8ada- Swiss authorities for assistance In specific gara): Copies of his statement should also cases of Indians having accounts in Swiss be made available.... (lnterruptions). Is he banks. We are intimating our Ambassador intervening in the debate or is he making a in Switzerland' to inform the Swiss separate statement? .... (Interruptions) authorities of this decision. Expeditious further action within the framework of MR. SPEAKER: No separate statement. Indian and Swiss laws will be taken so that we are able to obtain requisite information SHRI NARAYAN OATT TIWARI: Sir, against offenders and proceed against may I in all humility request my them effectively. distinguished friends and colleagues that during the debate, many references have Coming to the other question, namely, been made to Mr. W.N. Chadha, actio~ action against Shri W.N. Chadha, may I taken against him, and Swiss accounts. state that on assumption of office, the Therefore, I thought it my humble duty that Prime Minister had reiterated the existing I should respond to these because I am in instructions that the Ministry of Defence charge of this, and I will not take much of should not deal with non-Governmental your time. agents of a foreign supplier in respect of any commercial negotiations. Foreign SHRI SAIFU-ODIN CHOWDHARY governments and suppliers had been told (Katwa) : No, take as much as you unequivocally about this decision. like.... ( Interruptions). The hon. House is aware that Mis Bofors SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, he is, had been advised clearly at the reading out a statement. It is not the same commencement of price negotiations as intervention .... (lnterruptiOQs). about the unembiguous policy of the Government of India to disallow the MR. SPEAKER: That is written part of it. engagement of any Indian agent. The then President of Bofors had informed Defence SHRI NARAYAN DATT TIWARI: Sir, the Secretary that Bofors did not have any hon. Members have been informed by my representative or agent specially distinguished colleague, the Defence employed in India for this project. Minister, about the sequence of steps that ~er, for administrative services, for Government have taken in this matter example, hotel bookings, transportation, following the publication in the forwarding of letters, telexes etc., he said newspapers on April 17, 1987 about the that they are utilising the .ocal fir~ MIs alleged improper payments made by Anatron;cs General Corporation, Vasant Bofors. As he has pointed out, intense and Vihar, New OeIhi .... (/nterfuptions). immediate eff~rts were being made to SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 490 obtain clarifications f·rom Bofors and the SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (801- 'Swedish Foreign"Office on this matter. As pur): When was the priminal complaint a ,result of Government of India's filed? insistence, the' Swedish Government referred the entire matter to the Swedish (Interruptions) National Audit Bureau on the 29th· April, 1987. The Swedish National Audit SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY Bureau's report which was received by (Visakhapatnam): Let us have a separate Government of India on 4th June 1987, discussion. referred to certain winding up costs, amounting to two-three per cent of the (Interruptions) ordered sum. This was in clear contraven- SHRI N.V.N. SOMU (Madras-North): tion of the understanding that no such pay- Please allow me to speak before the ments were. to be made about the Minister's reply. engagement of Indian agents. In the light of this latest information from the Swedish (Interruptions) National Audit Bureau and in view of the association of Anatronics General Corpo- SHRI BASUDEB ACHAR1A (Bankura): ration with Bofors, it was decided to take action against them under FERA. Please allow him to speak. MR. SPEAKER: No, (Interruptions) The Enforcement Directorate accor- dingly conducted searches on 5.6.1987 on SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Why the premises connected with Shri W.N. not? Chadha. Based on the scrutiny of the documents seized as a result of the search MR. SPEAKER: have allowed every- action, Shri W.N. Chadha was summoned body which I could. to appear in the Enforcement Directorate for purpose of investigation. However. so SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Do far Shri W.N. Chadha has not appeared in you want to take them as Independents? the Enforcement Directorate. Under the circumstances orders for revocation of his (Interruptions) passport has been issued by the Regional Passport Officer, New Delhi on 23.7.1987. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Please Action has also been taken to file allow them to speak. prosecution against Shr; W.N. Chadha in the court of law for his non-appearance (Interruptions) despite summons by the Directorate of Enforcement. All possible efforts are being MR. SPEAKER: My ruling seems 10 De made to proceed with the investigation of final to me. What I said is final. So simple. the case. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I should be aHowed. MR. SPEAKER: I have given more than A case against MIs Anatronics General what I COUld. Corporation has also been taken up for detailed scrutiny by the Income Tax Department and all its known assets have SHRI N.V.N. SOMU:' I have not been ~n attached. given opportunity. Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing now.·1 MR. SPEAKER: I cannot· wort< against did my best. the rule if you do something like this. What more could be fair. Mr. Acharia? It looks (Inte"uptions) very odd to me that after taking so much of the time, you still claim more time. No. .MR. SPEAKER: I am not answerable. Nothing doing. Absolutely not. I cannot allow more. I have given' more thdn SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Why? enough. There should be some limit to anything. MR. SPEAKER: There is no why. It is because I say. It is my decision. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Sir, ne should be given an opportunity to speak. MR. SPEAKER: Gentlemen, I did my (Interruptions) best. I gave atl the time I could and I cannot do more (han that. Simple. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATI;: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would request that if some ( Interruptions) parties have gone unrepresented...... SHRt N.V.N. SOMU: t should be given (Interruptions) an opportunity as a Member on behalf of the D.M.K. This morning when I was MR. SPEAKER: Professor. I think 1 have present, they had taken up gratuity matter. been too liberal. I gave you all the time I should be given an opportunity. It is which was available. unjust. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir. We are (Interruptions) not bere on anybody's charity. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Rajapur) : I MR. SPEAKER: Please don't get angry have a submission to you. If the former with me. Defence Minister were to speak. he may reveal some information .... SHRI K.P. UNNIKFJISHNAN: We are not on anybody's charity. ( Interruptions) . MR. SPEAKER: I cannot be threatened PROF. MADHU DANDAVANTE: Why like this. I don't get threatened at all. I have do you not allow him? got the powers. I have closed the debate and I have closed it. It is so simple. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I have given time whatever I could. Nothing more I can do. S~RI N.V.N. SOMU: The .D.M.K. Party Member. should be given an opportunity to (Interruptions) speak. (Interruptions) M~. SPEAKER: No. not now~ MR. SPEAKER: With all your shouting , cannot be threatened. , cannot be cajoled. (Interruptions) I cannot be blackmailed. It is 80 simple. I have tried my level best. , have gi~ SHR' N.V.N. SOMU: Sir, , should be more two days. full days, and If you still gi~ an opportunity to speak on behalf of than two my party. are not satisfied, there is no end to it. It is t ... Motion re:.Joint· SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl COmmittee on Bofors 494 my right to declare the cI~ing and I have MR. SPEAKER: Is the HoUse willing to 'done It. It is so simple. Nothing doing. carry on this subject any longer? (Interruptions) ~ SOME HON. MEMBERS: No, no. SHRt N.V.N. S OMU : Silr, 't is unfair. (Interru{itions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Let it be on record that SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Sir, it is unjust, you have not let the House run. •undemocratic and unfair on your part. I should· be given a chance to speak. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Sir, it is unfair and .pROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, lam. unjust. Definitely I should be given an on a point of order. I will formulate my opportunity. It is unfair and unjust. Sir, on point of order. Firstly, there is no question behalf of my party, I should be given an of pressurising when we made it request to opportunity to speak. you that if one or two parties which are left uncovered, if they are left without speaking, (Interruptions) what will be the difficulty· in allowing them ? You say I will put it to the vote of the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There is House. Sir, when we make an appeal to no question of pressurising you. All I want you, it is very improper that you should put to make a request to you is that if one or it to the vote of the House. The decision is two Members who have been left are within your power and if you want this allowed to speak, what is the difficulty? House to vote for this. . MR. SPEAKER: When your motion Ruling also, will you put to vote? comes, they can speak on that. MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Sir, this is not (Interruptions) correct. We discussed how much time we shQuld need. So. I did allow everything a~d PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, allowed you more than two full days for there is no question of pressurising. this very discussion. What more can I do? MR. SPEAKER: Professor, your Motion (Interruptions ) will be coming up. They can take part in it. It is not essential that everybody in this House is going to take part in this debate. MR. SPEAKER: One mioute. There are always subjects in which all cannot take (Interruptions) part. There are always subjects. Tell me one subject on Which every person in this MR. SPEAKER: It cannot be done. It is House or eNery Party has taken part. impossible. It is impossible to do it. Sometimes they take part, sometimes they don't. (Interruptions) SHR' D1NESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): , • MR. SPEAKER: What more can I do? I am on a point of order. (Interruptions) have done the most. What can do is that' can put this suggestion to the vote of the SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Mr. speaker, I am House. If the House approves of it, you can on a point or order. take the whole day. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) 495 Motion re: Joint AUGUST:a, 1987' Committee on Bofors, 496, SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, by MR. SPEAKER: There is nothing in the this time, tlleir speeches would have been point of order. Over-ruled. - over. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Will you PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We listen to my point of order? Am I not request you, kindly don't put it to vote. It is entitled to raise a point of order? Please simply, it is strictly your discretion. We do listen to my point of order. (Interruptions) not pressurise. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed the hon. MR. SPEAKER: But you would not Minister to go ahead. I do not know, Sir, accept it. My discretion you would not which rule has been infringed. accept. So, what can I do? My discretion, you would not accept. Professor, Sir, I am SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Rule 376. not talking out of sequence; I am not talking out of the blue. I am talking what MR. SPEAKER: No. No point of order. was taking place in this very House. And No infringement of rule, whatsoever. No that is always done. It is not a new problem. dimension that I am doing. I have done it earlier. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI : Please listen to my point of order. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: In the past, the suggestion was not put to vote. MR. SPEAKER: What is the infrin- They will take undue advantage of being in gement? First refer to the rule which has the majority. been infringed. Then, I wiU speak. MR. SPEAKER: On this very subject, I SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: The rule is have admitted your motion. One more is 376. coming. Then, they can take part. There is no problem. MR. SPEAKER: That is the point of order rule. How is it a point of order? There is no SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: What rule which has been infringed so far. motion? SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI: Why sud- MR. SPEAKER: Ask Prof. Saheb. You denly you have become so tough that you ask him. are not permitting Members to raise point of order? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of MR. SPEAKER: No. I am not satisfied. order. No rule has been infringed. , My decision is final, whether you are satisfied or not. I am the Speaker and I PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: How is it have given my ruling. t'1at you are not allowing point of order? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: There is no infrjngement SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Mr. Speaker. Sir, I of rule. am on' a point of order. THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHRI SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Are K.C. PANT): Mr. Speaker .... (lnterruptions) we at their mercy. SH~I OINESH GOSWAMI: I am on a point of order. ( Interruptions) - 491 Motion r6: JOInt· " SRAVANA 15. 1'909 ~SAKA') Committee on Bofors 498 MR. SPEAKER: It is the people of India SHRI K.C. PANT: Speaker is there to who have given that. I·have 'not. What they direct. You allow him to direct. Whatever have given to you is yours. What they have he says, I shall do. You also· follow his given to them is theirs. It is not mine. It is . directions. That is all- I say. Whatever he neither yours, nor theirs. It is the people of says, you have to listen to him. Whatever India whC? have given this. That is all. the Speaker says, it is his d\rection. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: By (Interruptions) this time, their speech would have been finished. MR. SPEAKER: Any infringement of any SHRt N.V.N. SOMU: I am on a point of rule, I will definitely listen. order. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Mr. MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of Goswami is on a point of order. order. I will give you a chance later, but not now. , MR. SPEAKER: That is what I am going (Interruptions) to say. Let him first refer to any rule. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: It is unfair, unjust, (Interruptions) and undemocratic ... MR. SPEAKER: There is no infringe- ( Interruptions) ment of rule. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: First refer to the rule which has been infringed now. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: It is unjust. undemocratic and unfair.... SHRI OINESH GOSWAMI: Let us know under what rule a Member cannot speak. . (Interruptions) There can be a closure motion. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. It is my (Interruptions) right to conduct the debate and I have .done it in the best way I COUld. That is all. SHRI OINESH GOSWAMI: There can Finished. be a closure motion. I move that there shall be a closure motion to this debate. ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I will not be able to con- .gHRI K.C. PANT: Will you give me a duct any debate in1he House if you do -like moment? (Interruptions) this. When we began this debate .... (Inter- (Interruptions) ruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. If you Listen to me. Please listen to me. You are going to throttle the voice of dem0- cannot have a point of ordflr in a vacuum. cracy, then it is up to you. -PAOF. MADHU OANDAVATE Shri ( Interruptions) OineshGoswami ;s on a point of order, SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Who is throt- (Interruptions) tling democracy now.? AUGUST-e. 1987 MR. SPEAKER: I go according to what . MR. SPEAKER: Let the House know and theAutes~. let -the people know how the .proceedings in the House are being throttled. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: No time has . been allotted by the Business Advisory ( Int.,ruptiona) Committee. There can be a closure motion to close the debate. MR. SPEAKER: Nobody objected to me. I have given you full time. VVhat more I (Inte"uptions) should do, Professor Dandavate? MR. SPEAKER: It is onty a question of (Interruptions) principle. -There is nothing more, because Heavens would not faiL. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura).: Why are you not allowing them to speak? (Interruptions ) (Interruptions) MR.. SPEAKER: But how long shall I go like this? That is the problem. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA:· Without going by majority or minority, Members ( Interr.uptions) from .all the parties shoUld be allowed to speak. MR. SPEAKER: Knowingly; and will- ingly, you are not present in the House. (Interruptions) You are blaming me. MR. SPEAKER: Majority and minOrity (Interruptions) are done and created by the people and not by anybody. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Thi* morning the amendment was taken up. I was present in (Interruptions) the morning. The amendment was taken up in the morning. I was all the time in the SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Str, I am on a House this morning. Point of Order, under Rule 363. It says: "Whenever the debate on any motion in (Interruptions) connection with a Bill or any other motion becomes unduly protracted, the Speaker SHRI K.C. PANT: Mr. Speaker, may • say may, after taking the sense of the House,. a word to my hone friends opposite? fix a time limit for the conclusion of discus- sion of the debate on any stages". If the (Inte"uptions) Speaker has the power to fix a time limit, if the Speaker has power to take the sense of .MR. SPEAKER: Let the House know, let the House, then you fix up the time limit. the people know, how the proceedings in the Ho\ae are being conducted. (Interruptions ) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. MR. SPEAKER: It is the same subject. .. . (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: t am not going to do MR. SPEAKER: , have ."eady done it. I anything. Nothing doing. have not done it on my own. I haVe already taken'the consensus of ~ House. I am not (Interru.pIions J going to ~ from· my stand. whatever 5D1 Mollo(, re: Joint SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKA) Com~ on BoforS 502 you may do. My principle Is this. I will not specific rule provided under the Rules. You retrace my step. have to go by that rule. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) '\ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Even MR. SPEAKER: Even I can adjourn the you are convinced that Aule 364 was House, if you like. But I will not allow this. violated ... (Interruptions ) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I want to let the House MR. SPEAKER: No, no. know that the Speaker is Speaker. He is not dictated but he is guided by the rules. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, your silence is half-consent. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I rise on a Point of Order, under Aule 364. Kindly MR. SPEAKER: No question. I will give open the book. It is on page 170-Rule No. you time on any other thing, but not today. 364. This is regarding the decision of the This must be finished today. House as to whether we shall continue the discussion, whether the Member will be (Interruptions) allowed to speak. Rule 364 says : MR. SPEAKER: I can adjQum the "A matter requiring the decision of the House. Look here. One thing ;s clear. If I House shall be decided by mE::ans am to run this House, I am going tc? run it of a question put by the Speaker according to this book of rules, and it is my on a motion moved by a member"... decision. If my decision is not obeyed, then Here, no member had moved the I am not going to run the House. It is upto motion... (Interruptions). It was a you, it is to your good thinking, it is to your motion made from the Chair... cooperation ... (Interruptions) SHAt BASUDEB ACHARIA: You are not MR. SPEAKER: Professor Sahib, you allowing them to speak. You are always ask me to take the consensus of the pressurizing. House. That is what I have'done... MR. SPEAKER: Nobody could be more (Interruptions) liberal, nobody could have given more time; whatever I could, I have given. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Because you are referring to the technical defini- (Interruptions) tion, t point out to you 'that inadvertently you also violated Rule No. 364 ... (lnterrup- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Somu, it is not tions}. There was no motion before the essential that everybody should get a House. chance. Always there are certain things. I can anow you at some other time. ( Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: No. Not like that. Don't jump to conclusions. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: By this time three Members would have com- SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: There isa pteted their speeches. . AUGUST 6,·1987 MR. SPEAKER: Even ten might do. But , MR. SPEAKER: There is no question. I am not going to budge. It is a question of am the Speaker and I win decide. principle. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I appeal to you, Sir. We have a- right to appeal to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What is you. There is no question of pressurizing the sense in allowing Mr. Shukla or the here. We are appealing to you .. As DMK Member to speak after the Motion is Members we have a right to appeal to you passed? (Interruptions) After the Motion and as Speaker you have the right to has been passed, what is the sense in respond to our appeal. allowing them to speak? They can only pay homage to the Motion that has already ( Interruptions) been passed. MR. SPEAKER: You have got every right SHRt K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: 35 minutes to stall this, you have got every right to stall have gone on this. the -proceedings, but I am not going to budge from my stand. You may force me to MR. SPEAKER: It depends on you, not adjourn the House. That I will do... on me. (Interruptions) SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir, you made a very unfortunate observation. You MR. SPEAKER: I will leave it to the better said that you would rather be constrained judgment of the people. to adjourn the House than allow them .... PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There is MR. SPEAKER: What do you say? no question of pressurizing. SHAI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: If I have We have a right to appeal to the Speaker heard you correctly- I will stand and I appeal to you, Sir. Here is a DMK corrected-you said that you would rather Member who has not been given an oppor- be constrained to adjourn the House than tunity to speak. He may be given a few allow them. minutes and after that, the former Defence Minister Shri V.C. Shukla may be given an MR. SPEAKER: No; not that way. I said, opportunity. not on this now because there has been closure and I have caJled the Minister. {Translation) When the other thing comes, I will allow. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I will allot as much time PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: No as you say to all of them. Member moved the closure motion. You moved it from the Chair. -From the Chair, {English] obituary references can be made, but unfortunately this motion was made from I will allow them later, but not now. I can the Chair. promise. -I wit, promise that' will allow Mr. V.C. Shukla, Mr. Somu and even Mr. Arif, SHRt K.C. PANT: May I ask one ques- but not now. tion of Prof. Madhu Dandavate? Prof. Madhu Dandavate, I will ask you a' ques- SOME HON. MEMBERS: Why not now? tion. Kindly ask the others to sit down. I want to ask one question from Prof. Madhu (Interruptions) Oandavate. ' ·_ Motion re: Joint. . SRAV~ 15~ 1909 (SAKA) Committee on.80fors 5Q6 . PR9F.MADHUDANOAVATE:lampre- already given his ruling. It is my earnest pared. to listen to your question, but I am request to you. not able to hear. SHRt BASUOEB ACHAR1A: t would like SHRI K.C. PANT: Kindly ask them to sit to know whether the motion was moved by down. (1I'{tsrruptions) any member in the House? SHRI K.C. PANT: Even after that the Sir, the only question I have to ask Prof. Speaker has the right to decide. It is under Dandavate is... the rules for the Speaker to dec'ide and not for you and me to decide. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am pre- pared to listen. Let the question come PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: through the Chair. Through you, Mr. Speaker, I would ask a simple question. He is perfectly right that SHRI K.C. PANT: Yes. Yes. The ques- Mr. Bhagwat Jha Azad and Shri Jagan tion is coming t.hrough the Chair. I am pre- Nath Kaushal suggested that on both the pared always to learn from Prof. sides let us listen to each other. Therefore, Dandavate. He is an old member. Kindly sit in the same spirit and tone I would suggest down. Let us do it in an orderly manner. I to you that both of us should listen to each am not going to say anything to hurt your other. Let them listen not to all of us but at sentiments. I just want to put a question. least to two of us. That is all. It is in conti- Kindly take your seats. I think in a civilised nuation of the same spirit. L.at us jOintly way we can discuss it. Kindly take your appeal to the Speaker. seats. (Interruptions) SHRI K.C. PANT: I have been brought Sir, when this debate started at that time up in an atmosphere of discipline and I do there was lot of shouting on. both sides of not think the discipline of the House can be the House and at that ti me both sides came maintained if we question the Speaker's to an agreement. The agreement was that ruling. I will never do that. He has given a we shall hear each other out. ruling and I abide by it and I expect you to abide by it. (Interruptions) SOME HON. MEMBERS: No. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir,lam SHRI K.C. PANT: Wny don't you listen not challenging your ruling but the to me. Now, my friends opposite want Member has always the right to appeal to some more speakers to speak. All right. the Speaker. I made it clear that I do not want to challenge any of your ruling but I SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Only two. want to appeal and I would say in the same spirit we should listen to each other SHRI K.C. PANT: I can quite understand (Interruptions). that they want more speakers from the OpPOsition to participate. But the question SHRI K.C. PANT: Therefore, Sir, if hon. is who will decide this? Only the Speaker Members... can decide. You are subject to his direc- tions. We are subject to his directions. Prof. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Let Shri Dandavate cannot decide. , cannot decide. K.C. Pant and Mr. Dandavate appeal to the So we have to .Ieave it to him. I cannot Speaker that two more speakers may be understand how this House can function allowed so that. .. (lnterruptions) . .tJnless we obey the Speaker. I would request you, therefore, to accept his final SHRI K.C. PANT: I have a better counter decision, not to question it and not to raise offer. I,.et us jOintly uphold the dignity of this question at this time when he has the Chair. That is my counter ofter to you. f!JIJ7 MotIon f8: Joint -AUGUST 6,' 1187- -. ISbn K.C. Pant) ness was changed. The orUer Of bUsiness was changed. We never objected to WOuld you not like to uphold the dignity of that. -the Chair? How will this House function (Interruptions ) unless we obey the Chair? I do not have to tell this to a senior member like -Prof. Oan- davate. So.. my request is that you abide by SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: He took two our -original agreement. hours to make a three-line statement. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, (Interruptions) when there was a no confidence motion on the Kuo Oil Deal, Mr. Paswan said, I would SHAt H.K.l. BHAGAT: I am raising a like to make a submission. Speaker said: point of order... (lnterruptions) .. :You listen Kindly go ahead. Mrs Gandhi got up and to me.... (lnterruptions) What is the diffi- said : I have -no objection, Sir, if one more culty? You listen. I am speaking ... (lnter- speaker is permitted. And the Speaker . ruptions) ... Nobody can dispute that the allowed Mr. Paswan to .speak. After that, final authority to decide the duration of the Mrs Gandhi replied to the debate. debate is the House itself. Secondly, the motion has been put by the Speaker to the The same tradition and convention House ... (/nterruptions) ... Thirdly, Rule 366 should be followed. That's atl I want to says: submit to you, Sir. "366. A Member shall not speak SHRI V. SOBHANAOREESWARA RAO on a question after the Speaker (Vijaywada): There were earlier some has collected the voices both of precedents allowing some Members to the Ayes and of the Noes on that speak. question." (Interruptions) After he has' put it to the House, nobody SHAI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, can speak. Unfortunately you are not only no time-limit was fixed. Mr. Deputy violating one rule. you are violating all the Speaker allowed other business to be rules ... (/nterruptions) .. _You are obstructing intervened and we did not object. We ... (/nterruptions) ... Yes. the intention is to cooperated with that... (Interruptions) .... obstruct the proceedings as you have been We cooperated with them. This is the way doing before. Unfortunately you are not they are retaliating. responding to the spirit with which we have tried to cooperate even to accommo- (InteT,uptions) date your point of view. You are deliber- ately obstructing. We will not allow to be blackmailed and hold the House to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY ran some. AFFAIRS AND THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES SHRt (H.K.L. BHA- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Par- GAn: I art:' raising a point of order. liamentary Minister... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI K.C.- PANT: V\lho is retaliating: SHRt H.K.l. -BHAGAT: And you dispute my proposition legally! Is the' House final (Interruptions) authority" You say: No! Has the motion been put·? No! Can you speak after that? $HAl SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: This Mr. Dandavate, you are perhaps the senior- debate was interrupted. The list ,of busj- most Member and you violate the Rules SAAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors ~O more often than anybody else. How are SHR. S. JAIPAl REDDV: Let it be put to you saying that? Every minute you say: v~e. ' "Under what rule r We want to learn from a senior man. Unfortunately you are speak- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: That means ing aft. the motion has been put. that there will be no reply. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) PROF.,MADHUDANDAVATE:You.may create difficulties for Mr. Pant also. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, 'have quoted a precedent. In (Interruptions) the last Lok Sabha during the no confi- dence motion debate on Kuo Oil Deal SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Yea, yes. when the debate was completed and Mrs We support this closure motion. Gandhi was to reply, Mr. Paswan said: Give me few minutes. Speaker said: Not (Interruptions) possible. Prime Minister said as a-leader of the House: I have no objection. And he SHAI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: He has was given five minuteS and after that Mrs already moved a closure motion. I support Gandhi gave 8 reply to the no confidence the motion moved by the Minister of Parlia- motion. mentary Affairs. I say that the same tradition and conven- (Int~rruptions ) tion must be followed. That's alii haw to say. MR. SPEAKER: The question is: ( Interruptions) "That the question be now put." SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT: Sir. now under The motion was adopted. rule 363(2). I move: uThat the question be now put." (Interruptions) SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: All right; AN HON. MEMBER: No further debate. (Interruptions ) The Mini.. cannot reply. SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: Already the clo- (Intenvptions ) sure motion has. been moved. Even this is not necessary and you can't speak after MR. SPEAKER: They have a right to that. reply. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU OANDAVATE: On a SHRt DINESH GOSWAMI: Sir. we sup- point of order. Kindly see page 169 of the i' port the closure motion. It is all right. Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Busi- ness in, Lok Sabha. Rule :J62(2) says: (Interruptions ) HVVhefe the moti~: 'That the MR. SPEAKER; You wanted a closure question be now put has been motion like that' carried, the q~ orquesJions consequent thereon shall be put (Interruptions) forthwith without further debate." 511'. Motion re: Joint "'. :'AtJGUST'6. 1987 SHRt H.K.L. BHAGAT: There is a pro- SHRI N.V.N. S?MU.: SI,r.~.·.(ln~r .. viso a.so. ruptions)* "Provided that the Speaker may MR. SPEAKER: Either you withdraw allow a member any right of reply from the Houses or sit down. It is too 'much. which he may have under these Please sit down. Nothing dOing. Not rules." allowed. I have not allowed this gentleman. so, it is provided already in the rules. (Interrupti ons) * SHRI K.C. PANT: Yes, this proviso is MR. SPEAKER: Nothing is allowed. This there. is too much, please sit down. No, not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: Yes, the proviso is: [Translation] "Provided that the Speaker may allow a member any right to ( Interruptions) * reply which he may have under these rules." MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia... you please sit down. Yes, Mr. Pant. ...( Interruptions) ... THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE (SHF:U K.C: PANT): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not [English] understand how the House can function if there is this kind of shouting after the rules SHRI K.C. PANT: Sir. we have heard have Deen framed and fonowed. ~very hone friends opposite and now the time has body has gone through the process of the come .... closure motion. At this stage to obstruct the proceedings of the House is not fair. (Interruptions) * After all, we have a very large majority. We are several times your number. We have MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Somu, I will ask you heard your speeches. Is this the way to to withdraw from the 'House if you persist behave in the House? Do you think that like this. Prof. Dandavate can speak a ~rd if we do not want him to speak? I do not know if this ( Interruptions) * is the way you want the House to be con- ducted. Kindly listen. Do not go beyond MR. SPEAKER: Please do not force me. the point. ... (Interruptions). Please sit down. Nothing goes on record. I am grateful to hon. friends from both ( Interruptions) * sides of the House who have participated in the debate, and I think many of the MR. SPEAKER: Please don't do like this. speeches were made in constructive spirit. It is too much. (Interruptions) * The motion that I have tabled is before the House; ~ amended motion is also MR. SPEAKER: I cannot do anything. there. In the meanwhile, Members oppo- site' have, also tabled ... ,(Interruptions). (Interruptions) * -Not' r~orded. 513 ,Motion re: Joint , SRAVANA 1~t 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 514 (Translation] SHRI K.C. PANT: Sir, on a point of order.... MR. SPEAKER: Why you behave like this. Do not say aJiything wrong. Please sit (InterruptionsJ" down. (Interruptions) SHRI SAIFFUDIN CHOWDHARY: Did" [English] \, you seek his permission to speak? SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI : Sir, I am on a (Interruptions)* point of order under Rule 362. Plea~ listen to me. SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI: The right of (Interruptions) * reply is not regarding the other subject. SHAI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: The Under Aule 362, will you kindly permit Minister has no right to speak. me... .•• (Interruptions) .fI •• (Interruptions) * [ Translation] SHRI K.C. PANT: My pOint of order is, MR. SPEAKER: Why you behave like can anybody challenge the Speaker's"rul- this. ing? You cannot challenge the Speaker's [English] ruling. I have given my ruling and that is irrevo- (Interruptions) * cable. I never disallow any Member and I have told that there is another motion com- ,MR. SPEAKER: Rules are there to be ing up on this very subject, and then I will cared for and respected. If you do not care allow you to speak. for the rules, why do we make them? The (Interruptions) * Speaker has to conduct the House. so let MR. SPEAKER: I am not going to budge. me conduct it. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Shri (Interruptions )* Somnath Chatterjee has to say something. MR. SPEAKER: I am not going to change (Interruptions) * my stand. (InterruPtio~s) [Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I have heard more than MR. SPEAKER: You are a good person, that. what more can I do? Nothing doing. so why are you doing like this? (Interruptions j* [English] MA. SPEAKER: You have been the Chairman and still you are trying to inter- SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir, I am on rupt the proceedings. a point of order under Rule 362. (Interruptions )* (Interruptions) * MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. , have already asked him .... MA. SPEAKER: I have heard so much and I think the whole House is full of (Interruptions) * noices. * Not recorded. 515 Motion re: Joint AUGUST '6, 1987 Committee on'Sofois ,,5'16 .. SHRI K.C. PANT: Sir, is It not fair that the take the chair and conduct the Hoose. Not, Government's point of view should now be me. heard~ after we heard them for two days what all they had to say? Afterall (Interruptions )* Government... ' MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA: With whose permission are you speaking? (Interruptions) * SHRI K.C. PANT: With the Speaker's MR. SPEAKER: No. Nothing is allowed. permission. ( Interruptions) * SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA: No. you have not taken his permission. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing goes 0(.1 record. SHRI K.C. PANT: With the Speaker's permission only I rose to speak. (Interruptions) * (Interruptions) * MR. SPEAKER: You have seen him. See his behaviou r! 15.00 hI'S. ( Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Should someone be allowed to speak on MR. SPEAKER: Will you withdraw from this motion or not Sir? This is the main the House now? Will you withdraw from motion. You are allowing that .... (lnterrup- the House? tions) SHAI N.V.N. SOMU: We have wasted SHRI K.C. PANT: Sir. there are occa- one hour... (Interruptions) sions in Parliament when tempers riSe ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKEA: Not me. You have wasted. You withdraw from the House SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Sir, I should be please. Please withdraw. allowed to speak ... SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Three minutes will (Interruptions) do for me. SHAI N.V.N. SOMU: The whole world is (Interruptions) laughing at you L. SHAI AMAL DATTA: You have taken (Interruptions) one full hour... ( Interruptions) SHAI HANNAN MOLLAH: Sir, you are MR. SPEAKER: Will' you please take the custodian of this House... your seat now? f Interruption,s ) SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nal- MR. SPEAKER: What custodian? What gonda): He must be allowed ... are you doing then? You must be feeling (Interruptions) . proud of what you are doing. MR. SPEAKER: Then you come and (Interruptions r * Not recorded. 517· Motion rlJ: Joint SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 518 MR. -SPEAKER: I cannot ~lIow this. of the Speaker. That is the basic question. (Interruptions )* MR. SPEAKER: Are you right what you are saying? SHAt K.p. PANT: Sir, I would like t9 tell my hon. fr.iends that an impression would SHAI K.C. PANT: Unless we observe the go round the country that they are afraid of rules of the game, I do not see how can listening to the Government's point of carry on, in this House. view, because that ;s the right point of view. They want to drown our voice. They will ( Interruptions) never succeed in this ... (Interruptions). Why are they so apprehensive if the Govern- SHAI K.C. PANT: Please, request all the ment puts its view? Are they afraid that the Members' to sit down. That is the only way people will be converted? (Interruptions) we can proceed. (Interruptions) SHAt K.C. PANT: Why do you want to drown our voice? Hear me. I have heard all SHRt AMAL DATTA: Sir, the rights of of you. Why don't you hear me? This is not political parties are being scuttred. It is our the way that Parliament can run. There are principle to stand ..... Members on this side and that side and we should have respect for each other. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRt AMAL DATTA: It is & most unfor- tunate situation. ~ SHAI K.C. PANT: Please Somu, it is not for me, it is for the Speaker to decide. He (Interruptions) has decided. I nave all respect for you, per- sonally. But I am afraid that the brief contri- SHAI K.C. PANT: Now, sit, I think they bution that you have made is not very will allow me to proceed! illuminating. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI K.C. PANT: There is no intimida- SHAI K.C. PANT: Therefore, Sir, 'would tion. The Speaker is final. like to proceed further and I would like to appeal to my friends-it is an appeal-that MR. SPEAKER: If there is any intimida- we should now proceed with the business tion, it is on me. in hand. (Interruptions ) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I am being heckled. My SHRI K.C. PANT: Through the Chair, I rulings are being trampled with. The whole appeal to you ..... procedure is coming to nought without rhyme or reason. Because I have done it. (Interruptions) you should obey it and you ShOuld respond to it. So simple it is. Because if you SHAI K. C. PANT: Now, I think we want me to be the Speaker, then let me do s~uld go ahead with the business of the it. Mr. Somu I can give you a guaran~. House. It ;s a question of principle. It is a question of not challenging the authority (Interruptions) Not recorded. 519 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6, 1987 Committee on Bofors 520 SHAt N. V. N. SOMU: I will not take more least now, you must react to this. You must than three minutes. look at us. You are only looking to that side. They are hitting us. At least, make MR. SPEAKER: No. There is no ques- some observations. tion often minutes. There is no question of one hour. I can give you three hours but (Interruptions) * not now. Today, it will not be given. SHRI K.C. PANT: I would appeal to the (Interruptions) leaders of the OpPOSition, of all the parties, to see that some kind of an order is main- SHAI N. V.N. SOMU: Sir, we have wasted tained in the House. (Interruptions). It is one hour. t:.Ipto the leaders of the different parties.... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Oon't"shout. Without my permission, nothing goes on record. MA. SPEAKER: You don't have any decency even to withdraw when I said ( Interruptions) * withdraw. What sort of Member you are? SHRI K.C. PANT: Please see that some (Interrup'ions) kind of an order is maintained. We are all collectively responsible to this House. We SHRI V. SOBHANAOREESWARA RAO: have mutual respect for each other; and if Is there any significant guideline? you want to run this House... (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: If I am to change my SHRI BASUOEB ACHARIA: Tell them ... rulings, then I am no longer a Speaker. I am (Interruptions) not going to change, whatever may come. It is your job to run the House. SHRI K.C. PANT: Yes, I tell all the sec- tions. I am not saying that only one section (Interruptions) is responsible. We have to cooperate with each other. OtherWise, the House cannot SHRI ARIF MOHAMMI'O KHAN (Bah- run. If people outside the House get the raich) : Did you notice this? Sir, it is a threat impression that the Opposition is afraid of to parliamentary democracy. It has hit me listening to the truth, then you will be in my head. responsible. (Interruptions) You are obstructing the proceedings for the last so (Interruptions) many minutes. I have not said anything. I have been called by the Speaker. I am not THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE yielding to you. I have been called by the MIN'STRY OF C\V\L AV\AT\ON AND Speaker.' have not stood on my own. The MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY question is: "Do you deny me the right to OF TOURISM (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : speak, now that I have heard you for two Mr. Arif, the man, who is sitting in your days 7" (Interruptions). That is what you. back has thrown at you. are dOing. Leave aside the fact that lamthe Minister. I am also a member of standing. I (Interruptions) have been here for 25 years. Do you deny me the right to speak, when·the Speaker SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Now, has asked me to speak? IS that the right are you not feeling ashamed of it? Sir at procedure? (Interruptions) I am nobody to • Not recorded 521 Motion rtf: Joint SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKAl Committee on Bofors 522 allow. It is for the Speaker to. allow. (Inter- MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to what I ruptions) No. am saying. I think what I have to say is that I have (Interruptions) followed the Speaker's ruling. This is what I have to\say, and that is the only way the House can function. If the House is to func- SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): He tion in an orderly mannE'r, we must obey has insulted the lady Member. the Speaker. There is no other way. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: If he has said anything wrong, then my ruling does not change. It PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxar): Sir, you is the same what it was yesterday. If any- asked him to withdraw. But he has not. body commits anything wrong in the (Interruptions). You do not see what other House, that is condemnable. hon. Members are dOing. You are strict with us. But when he has used such a lan- SHRt HARtSH RAWAT: He has used guage against the lady Member... (lnterrup- abusive language for Mamata Banerjee. tions) What is happening? There is a way of discussing things. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. MR. SPEAKER: What can I do? I am just seeing that. PROF. K.K. TEWARY: He is abusing the lady Member, Sir. (Interruptions) You are (Interruptions) not doing anything. (Interruptions) MR SPEAKER: Let me hear. Nobody is MR. SPEAKER: I cannot hear. listening to me. (Interruptions) (Interruptions ) PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Sir, you must function. What is happening? MR. SPEAKER: Will you allow me to say something? Nobody allows me to liSten to (Interruptions) anything. What can I do? SHRI K.C. PANT: This is what you pe0- (Interruptions) ple want. (Interruptions) Can -you keep anybody quiet? MR. SPEAKER: What are you doing? Nobody in this House is feeling ashamed. [Translation] What will people be saying about us? What a fun we are making of th8" Parliament? MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to me. In One thing that I want to say. this uproar I was not able to hear if any- body abused or not. I was able to under- [English] stand this much that something wrong is going on. Mr: Somu, I ask you to withdraw from the House. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: If 20 persons speak .imultaneously, I cannot hear anything. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Please give me a Please keep quiet, and listen to what , say. chance to clarify my position. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) 523 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6, 1987 Committee on Bofors 524· MR. SPEAKER: I ask you .to withdraw reply. from the House. (Interruptions) [Translation] SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I never intended to . offend the lady member. (Interruptions) I MR. SPEAKER: Mr.. Acharia, you have said only about Bofors.... (Interruptions) exceeded the limit (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: .. asked Mr. Tewary to MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Sukla, please sit withdraw from the House and he did it. I down. asked this member to withdraw from the House, but he did not do it. It is upto you. (Interruptions) \Nhat can I do? If you do not support me in this, how can I run the House like this? [English] (Interruptions) SHRI K.C. PANT: The Opposition has been trying to create an impression that SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Why was the Government is not interested in getting he asked to withdraw from the House? at the truth in the matter of payments by What did he say? Bofors. MR. SPEAKER: He has said so many In the face of the facts placed before the things which I cannot even explain. House and the steps taken by the Govern- ment ever since the publication of the (Interruptions) Swedish National Radio report in Indian newspapers the Government's serious- SHRt N.V.N. SOMU: Let me clarify my ness of purpose cannot be questioned by position clearly. What I said was about any unbiased observer. I was listening very Bofors... ( Interruptions) If the lady member carefully to the debate and I did not hear felt offended, t regret for it. I did not offend anybody faulting the Government on the her. (Interruptions) steps it had taken since April. I have given the dates in my statement already. Not MR. SPEAKER: You .first apologise. only did the Government immediately approach the Swedish Government, and SHAI N.V.N. SOMU: I did not offend her. of course made inquiries of Bofors, but our If she felt offended. I regret for it. Ambassador even approached the Swed- (Interruptions) ish Radio seeking substantiation for the MR. SPEAKER: He has apologised. allegations it had made. The Radio prom- ised that they would give the facts but PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Where has he those disclosures have not come even to apologised ? this day- The net result was that the Swed- ish Government re-confirmed the precau- MR. SPEAKER: I have heard that. It is on tions taken by the Government of India to record. He has apologised. exclude middlemen and Boffors denied making any illegitimate or illegal pay- (Interruptions) ments, the only payments acknowledged by Bofors in their letter of 24th April, 1987 SHRI K.C. PANT: , do not want to take were for the reimbursement of consu'- the time of the House in repeating what I ~ncy services within the areas of market- sad in my opening statement or what has ing and counter-purchasing, and those been said by my colleagues on this side of made to a Swiss company which accor.d- the House. . ing to Bofors were comptetely legat. MR. SPEAKER: J have asked him to Bofors also states categorically that the 525 'Motion re: Joint SRAVANA 15! 1909 (SAKA) . Committee 0T? Bofors 526 company did· not make any payments of persistence of the Government of India- the kind alleged by the media. what I am saying may not be pleasing to you ... (/nterruptions) ... You have no right to You see how much easier it is to listen interfere me like this. You must understand when you keep quiet. that I am trying to explain a point of view . and you must understand that there are It also says that the payments were not many more of us on this side. Just because made to any Indian company or Indian we have patience do not tread upon us. citizen and had no connection with the I would like to remind the House that the winning of the contract. Government had informed them of the establishment of this inquiry on the 29th. If the Government were not anxious to April itself. Sir, it is becau$e of the people clear the air, or if it had something to hide, we are here-so many of us and so many the Government could have expressed hel- of yourselves (/nterrLlptions)' plessness at this point of time and left the matter at that. But it did not do so. On the On 4th June, 19t1i the report estab- other hand, the Government persisted in its lished ... ( Interruptions) efforts and it is entirely due to the persistence that the Swedish Government SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA: You have (Interruptions) established the National been defeated in Haryana, Punjab. West Audit Bureau Inquiry on the 29th April, Bengal. 1987. SHAI K.C. PANT: Nobody sitting here I do not think any objective observer has been defeated. The report of the would deny the Government the credit for enquiry was received by us on 4.6.1987. causing information to be uncovered by The report established prima facie that the Swedish National Audit Bureau substantial payments had been made con- appointed by the Swedish Government. trary to our expectations and wishes and (Interruptions) the assurances we had received. I say 'objective observer'. I talked about objective observers. I am not blaming you. I can understand Sir, that if they can I never blame you for objectivity. keep a haze and smoke going and not allow us to speak. they hope to take advan- So, S~r, any objective observer would tage of it outside. We will never let that see that if the Government had not asked happen (Interruptions) the Swedish Government and if the Swed- ish Government had not set up the inquiry We will place before you certainly the of the Swedish National Audit Bureau, facts. then the facts that the Swedish National Audit Bureau has brought forth would not ( Interruptions) be with us today and this debate may not have taken place. Therefore. even you can- MR. SPEAKER: Order. Order. not deny that the Govemment took a cer- ' tain step which led to the inquiry which ultimately led to these facts. How can you SHRI K.C. PANT: The Government deny this? (Interruptions) How can you decided to make the report published on deny this? The step that we took was that the same day and to consult the Leaders of we .pproached the Swedish Government, the OpPOSition on the same day. Now. they we persisted with them and ultimatety the are making very much ot noise. T1'ley Swedish Government agreed to set up this forget that the day we received the report inquiry.• t is not a normal inquiry. It is not a of S.A.B., on the same day we consulted usual thing. It is not an every day thing. Yet the Leaders of the Opposition. the Swedish Govemment because· of the (Interruptions) 527 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6, 1987 Committee on Bolots 528 IShri K.C. Pant] I was pointing out that the report had this major flaw that it did not give the names of I had always credited you, as being a the beneficiaries. it did not give the circum- sober person. Today I find you in different stances of payments and it did not give the colour. What is the reason? services for which payments were made. So. we were confronted With this particular Sir. alii ask is that publishing the report situation ... ( Interruptions) on the same day, calling a meeting of the Leaders of the Opposition on the same SHRt S. JAIPAL REDDY: We do agree day-are these the actions of a Govern- that Mr. Pant does not know ment which has something to hide? This is that ... ( Interruptions) a question I put to you. (Interruptions) (Translation] Sir, the small point I am making is that is the bona fide of the Govemmetit estab- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Jaipal Reddy, can't lished in so far as this matter goes. I have a you sit silent for 8 moment even? right to tell you. I have a right to express my opinion. You may not like it. But I am here [English] not to please you. I am here to tell the truth. Sir. if you doubt the bona fide of the SHRI K.C. PANT: It seems to me that our Government, my hone friend, then facts will only mistake is that we are presuming that not speak, facts wilt become a tool in the the opposition is all interested in getting at hands of politics. My request is that not to the truth. Is that a wrong presumption? allow the facts to be distorted for the sake of politicalisation. That is all. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Yes. (Interruptions) Listen to the facts. Why are you afraid of hearing the facts? SHRI K.C. PANT: Then why do you not let me speak the facts? As I said, we did two things. We con- sulted the opposition and the Prime Min.is- SHRI SAIFUDulN CHOWDHARY ter had a discussion with them. Then we (Katwa) : You should not manipulate the took a decision that a Parliamentary Com- facts. mittee should be set up. A joint parliamen- tary committee was decided at that time (Interruptions ) itself-all my friends here know it-on the very day of the receipt of the report. SHRI K.C. PANT: When a CPI(M) Member aSks me "Can anybody distort the Now, I have here the contributions of facts, there is no bigger joke." (Interrup- various Members on this particular matter. tions) You can even open a University in I will not take time of the House but I will this regard. I just said that the Audit Bureau read o~e or two. Shri Dinesh Goswam.i on Report spoke of substantial payments. 20th April has said: "You constitute a parli- What is the report-you have strayed into amentary committee of five to seven that. You are a good man. You should not members. And I am to take it that there are be doing this Mr. Chatterjee. I just said that no patriotiC Members on this side of the the Audit Report spoke of substantial pay- House. Two Members whom you can ments. But the report did not give... (Inter- trust." This is what he said. (Interruptions) ruptions) The report did not give the The noise will not drown us out. This is on ,..".. of the beneficiary and the circum- record. I have given you the date. atan<;es of the payment. (Interruptions). He stands by it. I am not blaming him, but , am merely saying that If you are a little silent-little noise does the JPC request was made by variouS not maner-you hear better. Members. , give the names... (InterruptionS) 529 Motion re: Joint SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bof~ 530 [Translation] there be a mid-term poll? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Alright. Shri Dineshiji SHAt M. RAGHUMA REDDY: We are has co~mitted no crime (Interruptions) prepared to go to the voters... (Interrup- tidns) [English] I, 1Translation] SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I stand by MA. SPEAKER: Please sit down. You the words "two Members whom you can have said and they have listened. We shall trust". (Interruptions) see when.the time comes. MR. SPEAKER: You have committed no (Interruptions) crime. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI K.C. PANT: Shri Somnath Chat- ·terjee wanted an enquiry. Shri Saifuddin- SHRI K.C. PANT: YJhy not? I have a Chowdhary wanted an enquiry. Shri Ven- right to say? Why should not I say that? katesh wanted one. And Prof. Dandavate You are interrupting me every second. said:" I would like that let there be a Parlia- Should you interrupt me every second? . mentary Probe" and so on and so forth. And his colleague, Shri Gurupadaswamy, Can't you hear me? Is two minutes too what did he say? much tor you? Is your attention's time so short? I am surprised at you. I am sur- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: You cannot prised you are continuously interrupting refer to a Member of the other House. me and your attention's time is so low that within five minutes you interrupt me SHRI K.C. PANT: If you do not want it, I thrice... ( Interruptions) will not. You do not want it. The point is well taken. I thought that you had some SHAI AMAl DATTA: Sir, he is unneces- kindness for Shri Gurupadaswamy. I am sarily provocative. mistaken ... ( Interruptions) SHAI K.C. PANT: Yes, I will be provoca- Now, it must be realised that setting up tive if you are provocative. Why do you of the joint parliamentary committee was think you have the monopoly of provoking? an extra-ordinary step. As many friends have said this would be the first committee .MA. SPEAKER: Mr. Amal Datta, why are of its kind. you becoming so... SHRI AMAL DATTA: Were there kick- (Interruptions) backs before? This is the first time that kickbacks have been confirmed. MR. SPEAKER: Saifuddin Ji, you are going to be a good Partiamentarian. but SHRI K.C. PANT: We cannot appf(~ach you are spoiling your whole image. this matter with flippancy. I am very sorry to say that. We cannot also disregard the SHR' K.C. PANT: Now' want to come to implications of such a. committee for the Shri Jaipal Reddy. Shri Jaipal Reddy is an future. All I would say is that many of the old friend of mine. I know him for a long Members here have their own govern- time. I have great affection for him. But he ments in their States and some of them had made in the heat of the mome.lt an very wrongly are hoping to form a govern- inexcusable, though minor. error of fact ment at the Centre. which , want to point out. He said that the ]oint Parliamentary Committee was set up SHRJ SAIFUODIN CHOWDHARY: Let only to prevent the Bofors delegation from 5S1 Mo~ 18: Joint . AUGUST 8, 1987 Committee on 80Itn 532 IShri K.C. ~nt) is why give them an opportunity. coming here. This is what he said. This is SHAI K.C. PANT: I know you don't like on record-"The Parliamentary Commit- to hear such things ... (Interruptions). All tee was set up on the 4th of June". Mr. right. if you think this creates a good Bredin came here on the 4th of July. (Inter- impression ... ( Interruptions). ruptions) You may have clairvoyance but we in the Government do not have any SHAI PIYUS TIAAKY (Alipurduars): Sir, clairvoyance. It is one month later... (Inter- why is he holding the mike? ruptions' Yes, we had announced it on the \ 4th itself and discussed it. The point. am SHAI K.C. PANT: Yes, I can hold the making is ... (lnterruptions) mike. I am not throwing it at you are anyb- odyelse. I can hold it certainly. So, Sir, alii SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir, he h~s himself am saying is that facts are sacrosanct, that made a mistake. we should bring a dispassionate mind to bear on the objective on all sides of the SHRI K.C. PANT: No, I have made no House. There may be any kind of issue. mistake... (Interruptions) But nn an issue like this in particular, that dispassionateness must come il'!' If allega- SHRI AMAL DATTA: He has said that tions are taken to be proof, as he has said the Partiamentary Committee was formed to my colleagues, then it becomes a very on fourth of June. - dangerous game. So, I would earnestly request you to keep this in mind. That is SHRI K.C. PANT: The point I am making why I brought up the matter of facts. is that when there is a lot of heat. .. ( Interrup- tions). Sir, as I said, it is a minor distortion if you like~ .. (Interruptions). So far as the purpose of the Parliamen- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: There have tary committee is concerned, that does not been some major distortions also. require any elaboration. The purpose is simple. The Government has nothing to SHRI K.C. PANT: The point I am making hide. The Government wants to get at the is something different. The point I am truth and that is why this committee has really making is that in the dust and din of been set up, regardless of all the soun('f debate, all of us can make these minor and fury. Neither the Government nor the - distortions. Does not matter ...(lnterrup- conduct of any member of the Cabinet is tions). All right, whether you made a mis- the subject matter of the present inquiry. take or not, that the record will show. But What is being inquired into is why did the point I am making is that we must Bofors pay such large sums to certain sometimes bring an objective mind to bear parties in relation to the Indian contracts. on issues like this when they come before Whether these parties were Indians or Parliament. What is the strength of this Par- foreigners? Whether these payments were liament, Sir? Outside in the whole country, contrary to the assurance given by Bofors? people are watching. We all discuss, We These are the questions and these debate. We may have our political differen- questions do need to be looked In~. These ces but if then they descend to this kind of questions do need to be answered. 's discussion where I cannot speak and you cannot speak, then I am afraid, the impres- sion we create outside is awful. What do small children learn from us? Therefore, I Now, to-day you heard the Prime Minis- will request you to be... (Interruptions) ter himself. He said that whoever is found guilty will ~ punished. He said it openly SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: That and he said this is the highest forum In the 533 MeIitJn re: Joint SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 534 land, And • say thtS categorically. You have their proprietors/Presidents/Oi.; heard him. I have nothing more to add. rectors, and place of incorpora- tion; Now, one aspect has been mentioned by some hone friends and that is-whether the (iii) The services rendered by such Governm~ of India, being a client, is persons/companies with refer- coming in' the way of Bofors disclosing ence to which such amounts facts' because of confidentiality. That is not have been paid; a fact and the confidentiality clause is not .coming in the way at all. Any Defence Con- (iv) Copies' of contracts, agreements tract is confidential. That is true. But in this and correspondence between particular case the confidentiality of this Bofors and such recipients; and contract of the Government of India has nothing whatsoever to do with the disclo- (v) All other facts, circumstances sure or failure to disclose the particulars of and details relating to these tran- the parties who received the payments sactions. in their possession." referred to in the Audit Bureau Report because these payments are definitely part Now are all these points not crystal clear? of this contract. Are they not unambiguous? Is their shadow of doubt that we have sought this When the Committee comes into being information which I am sure my friends we shall be only too happy to show the Opposite want? So, therefore, on this contract to the Committee to enable it to question I would like to ask you-are these satisfy itseif on this score. not aimed at uncovering the whole truth? Now, many friends raised another SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: They doubt. They asked me-have you written are more powerful than the Indian Govern- to Sweden to the Government of Sweden? ment. If they deny this... Have you written to Bofors? What about the excise portion, the portion that has (Interruptions) been taken out of the Report? Have you followed that up? SHRI K.C. PANT: Again. being an able lawyer he thinks when the facts are incon- I want to remove any lurking doubts, venient he should create disturbance. That although I have based on this made my will not effect me. I can assure him that that opening statement at some length, but still will not effect me. I can assure him that that these points were made. Therefore, with will not change the facts. These are your permission , would read out five recorded facts. point, raised in our letter dated 15th June 1987. , would like to read them again. I SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Why would like the House to listen to them care- do you not answer this? fully and then come to its own conclusion. SHRI K.C. PANT: \Nhy do you not (i) The precise amounts which have listen? been paid and the amounts which are due to be paid by (Interruptions) Bofors by way of commission, secret payments, etc. in connec- SHRI K.C. PANT:. I am not yielding. tion with the Indian contracts: SHR' SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Why (II) The recipients of ' such amounts. not? whether they be persons or com- panies and in the case of latter~ ( Interruptions) 535 MotIon re: Joint AUGUST 6, 1887 MR. SPEAKER: Order, Order. of a matter which shoutd cause aU right thinking persons to. a great Qoncern. Unne- SHRI K.C. PANT: The whole problem is cessary doubts have been raised about the that they want to project the image of the weapons system itself. Bofors are Government as being corrupt and the facts renowned manufacturers of defence mate- ~ against it. rial and we have purchased weapons from them in the 60s and 70s also which have (Interruptions) worked to the entire satisfaction of the Defence forces. The 155 Howitzer gun [Translation] mm was selected from amongst a variety of. ,MA. SPEAKER: You have put forward competing firms. There was an intense your views. Now let him express his views. competition. (Interruptions) He is expressing his views and you express yours. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: You are bringing a Motion. (Interruptions) .. [English] SHRI K.C. PANT: Yes, are you going to Why do you· not listen? joint, Please sit down. I am gOing to clarify doubts. SHRI K.C. PANT; I will say whatever is the truth. You cannot stop me of speaking SHRI AMAL DATTA: Why are you still in the truth. doubt? [Translation] SHRI K.C. PANT: If you want your doubts remain, I will not let them remain. MR. SPEAKER: They are speaking to That is what I am saying. Mr. Dutta, you live you, you are speaking to them. What is the in doubt. Your second nature is doubt. I use of saying things like this? cannot help that. (Interruptions) SHR' AMAL DATTA: You put the sub- [English] marine deal also. (Interruptions) SHAI K.C. PANT: I will say what is the .SHAI K.C. PANT: There'was evaluation truth. by experts whose lives depend upon such weapons system in times of war. Let us not (Interruptions) forget this. It is an important consideration. We must go by judgement of the experts in [Trans/ation] this matter. The army un~uivocally con- cluded that the Bofors gun and the French MR. SPEAKER: He will speak to you and guns were the only two guns which you will speak to him. What is the use of deserve in the ultimate analysis to be speaking in this manner? The truth will acquired 1f the army's expectations were to come to light. be fulfilled. The army's final view was that Bofors gun had a slight edge over its com- (Interruptions) petitors. However, both were acceptable and the final decision was left to be made MR. SPEAKER: You have spoken, now on commercial considerations·. One of the you may please resume your seat. key features leading towards a preference . InterruptionsJ for the Bofors gun was its high degree of (English] automation enabling consistent burst-fire capability. Once the technical evaluation SHRt K.C. PANT: I now turn to an aspect was complet~, the process of price nego-: 517 Motion re: Joint SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 53B tlatlon started. In the final reckoning, the Point two, Dr. ·Datta Sarnant, you are a. Bofors gun also happen~d to be ~argi senior Member; young' Members do not nally the cheaper one. Also, it requires one listen to them. Whenever there is a fierce member less in its gun crew which meant competition, those who fail to get the a saving of As. 70 crores over a 20 years life • orders are ever keen to run down their suc- span. Having regard to all these considera- I C8!1Sful competitors. Is this not a fact? tions, the contract was awarded to Bofors.. '(,,;terrupt;ons) Don't you all know it? Why Sir, I would also like to inform the coun- do you interrupt? Therefore, whenever try through this House and through you anybody does not get an order, he goes that at Jhe end of January 1986, the price of and spreads disinformation around. (Inter- total package was As. 1688 crores for 400 ruptions). Sir, I am not saying that every- weapons systems. At the end of March body does this deliberately? Innocently 1986, the contract was finally awarded for also, such things are done. Members do an amount of As. 1437 crores for 410 guns. not know what papers come to them. After The equivalent price of this package for all, I have been a Member of Parliament for 400 gun systems ~was As. 1427 crores. It years. I have not always sat in the Treasury would therefore be apparent that in the Benches. We get all kinds of papers and we final phase of the negotiations. a reduction . look' into them. Therefore, my duty is only of the order of As. 261 crores was to warn you to be careful regarding suctl achieved. That was a reduction of about papers given to you. It is my earnest request 15%. (Interruptions). There was no other to all of you, whichever your political belief" detail. I am sure of the Australian com- as well as to the** to be very careful about pany. (Interruptions). I will come to you Dr. lending credence or currency to uns~ Samant. The equipment have started arriv- stantiated rumours... ing and the army have reaffirmed that it is SHRI AMAL DATTA: No reference meeting the army's expectations. To the stlould be made to them. best of my knowledge, there is no reserva- tion in the army on the wisdom of its cho- SHAt K.C. PANT: ... with regard to the ice. Minor faults do occur. But these are quality of'our weapon systems. I will read attended to by the suppliers representa- out again. tives whenever specific complaints are made about the quality of any weapon sys- SHRt K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: It should tem that we have acquired. We must, of be expunged. course, look into them. But I would submit to the House that two factors must always SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: No reference be kept in mind. Dr. Datta Samant there are to them. Expunged. two factors. One is that it is not always easy to acquire sophisticated system as we PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Whe- want them. They are not easily available in never my wife is sitting there, I will refer to the world. Also there are forces in the her' world today who like to prevent us from SHRI K.C. PANT: 00 not lend credence acquiring such system. I do not think any- or currency to unsubstantiated rumours body will question that. No patriot will ques- with regard to the quality 'of our weapon tion that statement. In particular, they are system. not happy' if we start prodUCing the wea- pon system in this country. In case we suc- Sir. what is more important is. unwit- ceed nevertheless in acquiring the tingly perhaps, when some Members raise weapons, they spread disinformation some points supplied by these people, about the quality of the weapon systems in they lend respectability to those points. So. order to demoralise our Armed Forces and I would request them to be'very careful. Q1;Nde doubts in the minds of the people. That is all. They are hon. ~mbers. I '·am .. Expunged 88 ordered by the Chair. 538 JIotIon f8: JOint AUGUST 6, -'987 CommIttee on' 8oIot8 540 [Shrt K.C. Pant) What is ne,tessary Is for us oDoily and sure they have the discretion to look into calmly to consider' the implications of all these papers and decide what to raise, that is happening and whether or not .t is what not to raise. But tbis is the fact of life. likely to raise any doubts in the minds of -And to ignore this fact of life is to invite those who use these guns. (Interruptions) serious trouble for this country; not fo', Am I imagining thing$? Are these things you, perhaps not for me but for the country not a fact? Am I saying anYthing Which as a whole. you do not know? I would like on behalf of the House also to congratulate our officers Our Armed Forces carry a very heavy and men of the Army who had gone to Sri responsibility. Therefore. we in Partiament Lanka. must exercise self-restraint. This is a democracy. There is no whip from outside. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We.rnust Uke as I said the last day, the question is. it congratulate because in spite of these peo- is one of self-restraint. If we value our insti- ple. they have done a very good job. tution, we will exerciSe that self-restraint. H we do not value our institution, we will not SHAI K.C. PANT: So, they have done a exercise self-restraint. very good job. The swiftness and effi- ciency with which they have functioned Our Armed Force~ are there tOday. Last and also the speed with which they went, week, I was hoping that right in the begin- (Intel ruptions) one should be proud of- the ning this matter would come up. I would achievement. (Interruptions). These" are hear you. I would place my point of view; national achievements. (Interruptions) others, the colleagues of mine would place their point of view and the country would MR. SPEAKER: Could you behave prop- see exactly what the position is. Ultimately, erly now? they are the people who decide. You will agree that a patient hearing is what is SHRI K.C. PANT: Could we have needed. Last week. when we began this imagined two or three weeks ago that the debate. for one week, we had certain agreement between the Prime Minister of amount of commotion in the House. We India and the President of Sri Lanka would could not proceed with the debate. I would bring peace to Sri Lanka? have thought that if you were so sure of your grounds, why did you not press for (Interruptions) the debate; why did you allow the debate to be delayed? (Interruptions). All right. MR. SPEAKER: He is not saying some-' You had your reason. I accept your reason. thing unparliamentary. He is talking very much sense. But in the mean time, something has happened 'which underlies an important point. That is the happenings in Sri Lanka. SHRI K. C. PANT: Even he is not ctaim- You cannot ignore these things. After all, ing that. the Army can be called upon at a very short notice to defend the frontiers of the coun- , (Interruptions) try. It can be called upon at a short time to perform the kind of task, peace keeping SHR' K.C. PANT: I have learnt all my task, which it is performing in Sri Lanka nonsense from Prof. Madhu Dandavate. today, at the invitation of the Sri Lankan Gowtmment. Now, in such a situation, is it (Interruptions) not incumbent upon us to see that we do nat rely on rumours and spread such sto- SHRt K.C. PANT: I was saying that ries wh~ will ultimately demoralise our nobody could have _imagined and. , am Anny? sure my friends will agree, only a few 541 Motion re: JOint SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKA) Committee on BofOfB 542 ~s ago, that the painful situation in Sri gone from this country to Sri Lanka, an Lanka could have ended so well by the unusual factor. I do not want to elaborate agreement between. the Prime Minister of on it. an ur I usual factor and it brought a India and the President of Sri Lanka. But certain amount of kudos to this country. It the point ,I am making is ....(lnterruptions). strengthens our self-respect. It streng- Please ha,ve patience. You have patience thens our pride in our country. for months when there was strike in Bom- bay. Here for five minutes you cannot have These are the things which I think we patience. should keep. in mind even during this dis- cussion because everything has its impact DR. DATTA SAMANT: It is nOt a point on other things. (Interruptions) Some hon. for appreciation. Members have suggested that the Govern- ment should have cancelled the contract MR. SPEAKER: Why cannot you appre- with Bofors. (Interruptions). ciate something which is good? Would you like the debate in which I say (Interruptions) everything that you want me to say? Could that make you happy? {Translation] SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: He is say- MR. SPEAKER: What is this? Does it ing something which has nothing to do look nice to you to interrupt the speech with this. every minute? . [English] 18•• In. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is saying either withdraw the strike or with- SHRI K.C. PANT: I would like the House draw from the House. to consider this matter carefully. Firstly. legal has (InterruptiOnS) there is a aspect. One to see ~ the contract has been dem0n- strably violated and whether we have legally impossible claims. These things have (Translation ] to be examined. I am sure that Shri Unnikrislvtan. for instance who has know- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Datta, I may not ledge in these matters. would not like me to have to say something to you ...... spell out our view on these matters beca'l88 this is not the time to spell out our views.. But there is legal implication. Then, theIe is [English) the financial implication and that financial implication has alao to be kept in mind- SHRI K.C. PANT: The reason I menti- not only the diract.fina1Cial implication but oned Sri Lanka was two-fold. One, I did the sub-optimal utilisation of theeqUiprnent want the House to congrartJlate the Armed and weapons already raceiwd. There ...... Force. , want it to say that the Army, Navy question of the Infructuous axpetlditureon and Air Forces. all three. are involved in the cradit availed of. and· so on, th8re .. this exercise and the good wishes of the others. But I don't want to ...... our hand.. House are with them. It is with no other This is not the time for it. But alii C81 say Is ~rpose. that Shri Madhav Raddi mentioned • .. particu... figure-the thwIciaIlmpIicationa The second fUrpoae of my mentioning ant much higher tt... thallt .. not_tow_ this was that a peace-kaeplng force has that. S43 Motion re: Joint AUGUST '6, 19$7 Committee'on 8()totS 544 SHAI AMAL DATTA: More than Rs. SHRt SA1FUDDtN CHOWDHARY· : 1300 crores? \lVhy is he arguing in favour of Bofors? He· is defending the Bofors. SHRI K.C. PANT: No. I don't think you heard it. This is the trouble with you ...... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) You are so sure of wrong facls. ... (Interruptions). The confidancewith SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I am on a. wbich' Y9U repeat, it strengthens my case. Point of Order. MR. SPEAKER: There is no Point of (Interruptions) Order. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Give us the correct (Interruptions) 'figures. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I am on a Point (Interruptions) of Order. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Pant, you have put MR. SPEAKER: What is your Point of me on alert. I must be worried about it Order? because I have put him as Chairman of P.A.C"! SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: My point is that the Minister is weakening the case of (Interruptions) India as against Bofors... SHRI K.C. PANT: The third aspect we (Interruptions) must keep in mind-I am sure, there is no division in the House on this aspect-is the MR. SPEAKER: Overruled. There is no security aspect. We are all aware of the Point of Order.. ~ . deteriorating situation, environment in this area.... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It is not proper for the Befence Minister to say PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE that nothing will be done against Bofors. (Rajapur): Division is only on Bofors. MR. SPEAKER: There is no question .... (Interruptions) . (Interruptions) SHRI K.C. PANT: On the Bofors gun also, an this matter, there may be no division. So, SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE:" That thael0l8, In our region we have got to take is what they are saying. Into account the fact that other countries do paal B8 B similar guns. We cannot ignore (Interruptions) that. can you ignore it? Can we ignore it? VIe have the responsibility to see that the MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Jaipal Reddy, what bolder of this country remains inviolate and are you dOing? we are able to defend our·sovereigfrty and ~ntegrlty. Thelefore, we cannot ignore such . factors. Now.. if we cancel the COl ttfact, (Interruptions) oIta' factors beside, it will set back the pro- c-. ofacqulrfng furtherguns byaleasttwo ,_,.. That is'1he conctuslon Of the experts. MR. SPEAKER: You don't agree with (IntefflJptions ) him. This is your argument. If you' don't 545 Motion t8: JOint SRAVANA 15, 1909 ·(SAKA) Committee on Bofors 548 agree with himt that is your point of view. SHAI K.C. PANT: You will never be able That is aU right. to intimidate made. V\lhy do you try again and again ~ (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKEA: \NIlat you are speaking is irrelevant. ~ SHAI K.C. PANT: I have already said SHAI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Who? that I am not going to reveal...(Inte r- SPEAKER: You. ruptions) What is the use of shouting? MR. Shouting will not do anything. SHRt SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Sir, he is speaking for Bofors. He is advancing ( Interruptions) arguments for ~ors. (Interruptions ) SHAI K.C. PANT: What is the ~se of MA. SPEAKEA: ,Order. please. shouting? It will not disturb me in the least. SHRI K.C. PANT: Therefore, Sir. the [Translation] question is whether the Government should have used. the threat.... MA. SPEAKEA:. These are your views and they have their own views. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Pant, I want to seek a clarification. I do not [English] want to enter into this controversy 8t this . stage. But , just want a clarification. You SHAI K.C. PANT: ·My hone friends are"trying. from your own point of view, to opposite should have thought of this when put forward what are their aifficulties in they raised this issue. Why did they raise cancelling the contract. I only want to the question? Do they want me to answer know this from you~ Bofors have violated it or not? Why did they raise the question? even the norms in Sweden and Therefore. these are crocodile tears; there clandestinely supplied arms to a black- is no credence to this .... (lnterruptions) listed country and they are also alleged to You see the interesting situation. Sir. They be involved in certain malpractices which raise an issue. and when I answer this. they you are inquiring into and you are rightly object to it saying. "You have answered doing it. At this particular juncture giving us". This is a very strange situation. an assurance that whatever the (Interruptions) I am not yielding. I am not malpratices you will not terminate their yielding at all. contract-will that not streIagthen their position? There was another suggestion: "If you do not cancel the contract. at least you SHRI K.C. PANT: As I said, if you had not should threaten to cancel the contract." pointedly asked me again and again, -vJhy Am I not correct. even that much? Many did you not canoel the contract'" perhaps I Members said: 'Why don't you at least would not have touched. I did lake th8 threaten? Why don't you use the threat as Opposition leaders into confidence when a ploy?" First and foremost. my hone we met on 4th Ju~; Prof. Dandavate will friends must control themselves and listen ~ber. I also gave them figunJS. After to inconvenient facts. It is a part of all, they are as patriotic as we ate, though parliamentary rights.... they are sitting on the other side of the House. I told them everything. including the SHA. SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It is 1'88801" But u.n in the House again the not inconvenient to me. It is inconvenient point was raised. It is a material point. it is an to the country. important point; and to ignor8 it. nOt to say anything, would be wrong. But at the same , (Interruptions) time, you will have noticed·that I have not 547 MOtion re: Joint '. AUGUST 6. ,1987 . ;. Commi'_' on Bafois '$41) me and find out. IShri K.C. Pant] I will mentioned the quantum of money; I have (Interruptions) been very careful: I have not mentioned the .'implications. , have merely touched on MR. SPEAKER: You are spoiling the them. I have been very careful in that whole thing. respect. Therefore... [English] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You have sufficienUy touched us. Now go to the neXt SHRI K.C. PANT: Sir, now, I think the point. House knows that apart from having tabled a number of motions, we tabled our SHRI K.C. PANT: Even if you can get motions, our friends opposite tabled a touched, then there is hope for Mrs. Danda- number of motions. There were differences vate yet. in those motions. It is not as though those motions were the same. There PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Nobody were material differences. Then in the last who is not in this House can be touched. few days, we have had discussions. We have tried to sort out the differences. We MR. SPEAKER: It is a telepathic touch. have tried to understand each other and I must thank friends opposite for the patience with which they heard me and I think, they SHAI K.C. PANT: About this question of should thank me for the patience with which threat, I would like the House to seriously , heard them. consider this. Should the Government of India make idle threats? The suggestion seems to be that you make a threat and Now. Sir. in the draft motion which they those people will immediately respond. I am have sent to the Prime Minister. the first not concerned about what Bofors do or thing they said was that this House should what the Government of Sweden do. but I elect. I think, 20 Members. the total should do feel that if we make a threat, it should not be 30 and 10 should come from the Rajya be an idle threat; then we should go through Sabha. And we had earlier proposed 21-14 with it. We should keep the consequences from this House and 7 from that House. in mind. , have spelt out aU the Now we have accommodated them in this implications. Then if we hold out a threat respect and we have said, "we will have 30 and then hold it ourselves back at the last members. 20 from Lok Sabha and 10 from minute, it will erode our credibility com- Rajya Sabha be elected on the basis of pro- pletely. Therefore, I am not saying Aldo this portional representation to enquire into the or do that". Whatever you do, you must issues arising from the Report of the Swed- think through to the last point and not take ish National Audit Bureau relating to the half-hearted steps and then be caught in Bofors' contract to supply 155 mm Howitzer jam. guns to India," Now, Sir, the most important part for Then, Sir, another point that they had which my han. friends are waiting is this. made was putting more general terms relat- Maition which is before us. In this Motion... ing to January 1980 and a whole wide spec- trum of purchases etc. etc. But one of·the , SHRI S . ..lAIPAL REDDY: Wlether Mr. points that emerged was that in so far as 'Win Chadha a non-resident Indian or not? Bofors guns acquisition was ·concemed, what were the procedures laid down and f Translation)' whether they were followed? So. we have put that in. We have accommodated the MR.. SPEAf(ER; You give the question to opposition's point of~. We have said the 549 MOtion re: Jo,tit SRAVANA'<:15, '1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 550 Committee shall enquire into the following received such payments shall be matters: ascertained." (I) whether the procedures laid Are you satisfied now? That was the point down for the acquisition of wea- that you made.... (/nterruptions) ...You are ppns and systems were adhered congenitally dissatisfied .... (/nterrupti- td in the purchase of the Bofors' ons)... .1 am not talking about you. gun. To determine whether any Indian laws, Then, Sir, they asked for investigation, rules and regulations have been violated enquiry into the payments and so on and either by Mis. Bofors or by persons as indi- so forth. But we have gone, I think, beyond cated in 2 and 3 above; is one of the points that. We have specified the amounts of the in the Motion. can there be any objections Audit Bureau Report. We have not con- to this? This is what you want to know. cealed anything. These amounts are there in the RepOrt we hAVA out them in the Then the question of submarines was motion. They have not put it in the motion. given by them. I have replied in the course identi~ And we have asked for the of the of my initial statement as to why we cannot persons to be also gone into. We would allow the submarines matter to come into also like to know the purpose and there- it. They are not connected in any way and fore, Sir, what we have said is, "0 ascertain the investigations are going on and there- 1the identity of the persons who received, fore till the investigations are complete, it and the purpose for which they have will be totally premature even to think of it. received, payments of the following So, I don't think this is the stage at all and I amounts: hope the Hon. Members will agree. SEK 170-250 million Then there was a question of the Chair- man. They wanted a Chairman of theirs. SEK 29.5 million They said that they should have the Chair- man. The position is that the Speaker shall SEK 2.5 million nominate one of the Members of the Com- mittee to be its Chairman. That is in the from Mis Bofors (as referred to in the rules of business and that is the normal Report of the Swedish National Audit procedure. We are trying to abide by the Bureau, received by the Government of normal procedure as applicable to the India on June 4,1987)." What I am reading Committees of Parliament This is in line from the motion will come before the with the normal procedure that we have House on behalf of the Government. accepted for its formulation. SHRI SYEO SHAHAB~DDIN: What They also asked that they should have a about other payments? majority in the Committee... ( Interruptions) SHRI K.C. PANT: Yes. There was the SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI (AdUabad): point about other paymenJs. Then we went •Please read out that particular passage into that and we have put it this way: and say where have VItI wanted 8 majority. It is misleading. "arising out of the enquiry, if there is prima facie evidence that PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We want Mis Bofors have in addition to a majority in the country! payments mentioned in (ii) 'above, made any other payments SHRt K.C. PANT: Yes. Prof. Dartdavate for securing the Indian contracts. is completely right. If the country sends the' .identity 'Of the -persons who them in a majority here. they can have a 551 Motion ,.: Joint. , , , - ;AUGUS~;8i 1987 - . (Shri KC. Pant) The. Sir•... SHRI' K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Thanks for majority in the Committee. You will not amall mercies. find that today. I am afraid you are not in that position now. So. we have to accept its SHRI K.C. PANT: At least some anialt raalities... .(Interruptions) mercies -we have given to you. You have given me none. SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: The Hon. Minister had stated that the Opposition has Then. Sir, comes the Comptroller and 88k~ for a majority. Mr. M8dhav Reddi has Auditor General. Not only in the Motion asked him to kindly read out the passage but even outside many hone friends said .,d tell us from anyone of the Motions as that you should give us clearly the assist- to where have we asked for the majority. - ance of certain agencies of the Govern- Please don't mislead. If it is a fact, say so. In ment. I in my opening speech clearty said the entire text nowhere have. we stated or that the Government will fully assist this any one of the leaders of the opposition Committee. I said on behalf of the Govern- has stated that we want a majority in the ment in the most categorical and clearest Committee. Is it possible..... terms. I do not think this is necessary also (Interruptions) but in order to accommodate their point of view even that we have put in. This is how SHRI K.C. PANT: I have had discussions it reads: with many friends. I am not saying that Mr. Madhav Reddi has said It. But I am very "That the Comptroller and Audi- glad that we have agreed on this at least tor General of India and the Attor- that you should not have the majority. That ney General of India will provide Is the point of agreement now. assistance to the Committee, as Then I come to the question ot quorum. necessary." The position is that t~ quorum of the Committee shall be 1/3 of the total strength Then we have agreed to the investigat- of the Committee. In the draft that they ing agency. Again it was not necessary to have given... _ put it in. It was inherent in what I had said in (Interruptions) my opening statement but we have again respected their Wishes. What we have said [T,.,s/ation) is: SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Sir, "That the investigating agencies han. Minister is sleeping. . of the Government of India shall . MR. SPEAKER: Sleeping is not unparlia- render such assistance to the mentary. but snoring is unparliamentary. Committee as may be required PI aa.e tell me if he snores. by it for the purposes Of Its enquiry." . PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE: I think he is conceding our suggestions. Then comes the Committee's powers to MR. SPEAKER: He is contemplating. ask for and r8ceive evidence. Now in this matter the rule already provides also for SHRI K.C. PANT: About the quorum receiving evidence and so there is nothing matter there is no difference of opinion. It .....Iy to be said here except one thing and, is given in the rules. They have suggested that is, my hone friends. said that we would 1/3. We think that it is unnecessary like to be in a position to iequest Bofors or - ..... whet is, contained in the rules other peqona in Sweden who are con- _need not CQme into the Motion. But since nected ,with the enquiry relevant to this -they ..tted. .. have included that. --,i88ue we would Uke them· tQ 'comer'here 'If 553 MotIOn re: Joint SRAVANA:15. 1909 (SAKAl Committee on Bofors 554 . . they want to come. So we have taken that would have h8<1 a mUCh easier time. ,I(lto .~unt and' tried, t9 accommodate (Interruptions) them there al80. I read the provision: Now the counfry will judge whether we "The Committee shall have the have accommodated you or not. Shouting power to ask for and receive evi- here is not going to settle this issue. If you \. dence, oral or documentary, from go outside the people will decide and I am foreign nationals or agencies pro- ,sure that is what you are afraid of. (Inter- vided that if any question arises ruptions) Now they want that the Commit- whether the evidence of a person tee shall have the powers to summon any or the production of a document Minister for oral examination. We went into is lelevant 'or the· purposes of the this question. One example which was Committee, the question shall be given by somebody was about the referred to the Speaker whose practices in other countries. In the USA, decision shall be final." for installce, the Ministers do appear before 8ub-committees. They have a sys- tem in which the Ministers are not Members of Parliament of either House SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE; How and they go before the committees but will he decide? Then he will have to go they do not go before Parliament. They are through the entire record and the entire not answerable to the Members of Parlia- proceedings. It is wonderful. They are ment. In the Westminster model. on the unnecessarily trying to involve you. You other hand, the Ministers are answerable· should observe that you are not a party to to Parliament. They don' go before the it. (Interruptions) CommitteeS. Here in this country also, we have adopted this pattern. [Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I think, the Committee Sir. I would like to quote from Kaul should do this entire work. & Shakdher. [English] "A general power is given to a Parliamentary Committee by SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: This is an Rule 270 of the Lok Sabha Rules observation from the Chair. which states that a Committee shall have power to send for per- sons. papers and i-ecords. If SHRI K. C. PANT: They wanted that the Committee should have... But direction 99(1) of the Directions by (Translation) the Speaker Specifically mentions that: PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE: There is &&A Minister shall not be called lot of work In this House. 80 why are you before the Committee (In this putting 80 much burden. instance, It refers to the finan- cial Committees) eitta" to give SHRt K. C. PANT: How much burden evidence or for consultation in you have put on him? He shouted for one connection with the examination hour but you did not listen to him. of the estimates or accouma by the Committee.If '. '{EngH"') SHRI BASUDEB ACHAAIA: This is an If you -..re klndiar to him the Speaker extraordinary committee. 555 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6,1987 C(>minittee on Bofors 556 SHRI K. C. PANT: That's all right. I am Now, my hon'ble friends nevertheless telling you what the position is. are keen and we are equally keen to find the way if we can accommodate them. Sir, (Translation] I have seen the Opposition draft and I don't want to go into all the considerations. I MR.' SPEAKER: Please sit down. have given some of the considerations. (Interruptions) The most important of that is .that so far, the Ministers are not summoned by Com- [English) mittees. But they can go on their own. So, in this case, as my friend was saying, keep- SHRI K. C. PANT: So they have given ing in mind the special nature of the Com- ,other factors in this. Finally, from the mittee, the Government will be prepared to above, it will be seen that the formal evi- let the Ministers go before the Committee if dence of the Minister is thus not recorded. the Speaker, after ascertaining the view of Then. Sir... the Committee... (Interruptions) ... Yes, the Speaker, because that is the right thing to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Take Mr.. do. We have full confidence in the Shakdher's evidence. You will find that his Speaker.... (Interruptions) ... if the Speaker, opinion is different. after ascertaining the views of the Commit- tee feels that a Minister's appearance is SHRt K. C. PANT: Have you developed necessary for the purpose of the inquiry. some more influence on him in the Here also, we have stretched as far as we meantime? can to accommodate the point of view of my friends opposite. SHAI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: These are reflections against a person who is not Then. they wanted us to waive the Offi- a Member of this House to say that Mr. cial Secrets Act. That is not possible Shakdher has been influenced. (Interrup- because that comes under the statute. Our tions) ... This is worse than a joke. motion here cannot negate the staute.... { Interruptions) ... MR. SPEAKER: .t is just a joke. One Point on which we had a long dis- SHRI K. C. PANT:. Where is your sense cussion was in relalion to allowing the of humour, Mr. Chatterjee? (Interruptions) Committee or some of the members to go abroad. One of them - I will not name SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: If it is him-did catch the point that there may be a joke, it is a very cheap joke. difficulties. I also see some. For instance, if the Committee wants to go to Sweden, SHRI K. C. PANT: Now, Iquomfrom they must get permission for. Sweden. If Mays Parliamentary Practice: they want to take evidence of some party, that party must be agreeable to come before it and so on. If that is done without a " ... members of the Commons very careful prior preparation, then it can (including, of course, many of the create problems. After all, they represent Ministers)-after all. a Minister is Parliament as a whole. A Committee of a member of this House-are not Parliament i$ a reflection of Parliament. summoned to a Select Commit- This Parliament is a reflection of the coun- tee, but can be invited to attend. try. Any kind of insult of one of o.ur Com- Only an order of the House itself mittees is an insult of the whole country. can require a member to attend a This is how we look at it. Even then, we tried Committe." to accommodate them, and what we have done is this. Before .....d i~ out.,' .n:tust say This is -the position. that if they are disappointed at our 551 Motion re: Joint SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKAl Committee on Bofors 558 attempts to accommodate tl:1em, that only [Translation] means that they have pre-judged the issue, otherwise why should they not listen? M"R. SPEAKER: Will you allow the prO- They have prejudged the issue. Please do ceedings in the House to continue or not? not make the country see through you. Now you please sit down. They would see through you. For your own sake. J am advising you. I will quote (Interruptions) what we have proposed in the motion: MR. SPEAKER: You give me in writing and I will find out about it. "If the· Committee wish to nomi- nate a Sub-Committee.1o visit a (Interruptions) foreign country for specified pur- poses connected with the MR. SPEAKER: Not now, but you give enquiry, the matter shall be me in writing and I will find out about it. referred to the Speaker who may take such decisions and give [English) such directions as he thinks fit. provided that such sub- SHRI K. C. PANT: It is now for the coun- Committee shall not hold sittings, try to judge as to whether we have any- record evidence or take decisions thing to hide or whether our friends in a foreign country." opposite would like to disregard the facts and continue to create an impression Then, the next is another aspect relating which pays them politically. This is the to rules of procedure. It says: issue which the people will have to judge. "That in other respects the Rules I know, there are political differences. I of Procedure of this House relat-- know you would like to exploit the issue. ing to Parliamentary Committees but I must say that this House at least must shall apply with such variations act in a manner which appears objective to and modifications as the Speaker people outside. They must examine the may make. facts with objectivity... (Interruptions). That the Committee shall make a SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Mr. Speaker. report to this House by the last Sir..... (Interruptions) day of the first week of the next session of Parliament. [Translation] That this House recommends to MR. SPEAKER: Now you please sit the Rajya Sabha... " etc. down. You give me the question and I will find out. This is the motion. As I have just explained. the Govemment has gone to (English 1 the utmost length to accommodate the point of view of my friends opposite. We SHRI K.C. PANT: If this House is sought have done so in the belief and on the to be converted into a star chamber where assumption that, as I said in the beginning, we make decisions before we come here, they are as interested as. we at getting at and we ask for a Committee only to c0n- the truth. -,If they are interested only in a star firm our worst suspicions. I am afraid, we chamber... (Interruptions). cannot make progress. 'We cannot also oblige them. We would like truth to come SHAI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Mr. Speaker. out. Why':&. are they insisting on more Sir... ( Interruptions) Members or the Chairman from the oppo- 5S9 Motion re: Joint AUGUST 6. 1987 Committee on Bofors 560 (Shri K.C. Pant] I beg to move: &ition. Why is it? In the norm._ course in a "That the Original motion may" be ,Parliamentary Committee ,a certain amended to read as foUows:- number of Members should be from the (1) That a Joint Committee of both opposition and certain number of the Houses conSisting of 30 Members from here. And the Chairman Members, 20 from Lok Sabha and will be from the larger Ruling Party. 10 from Rajya Sabha, be elected on the basis of proportional ( Interruptions) representation to enquire into the . issues arising from the Report of the Swedish National Audit SHRI K. C. PANT: Alright. but you are Bureau relating to the Bofors' suspecting our Members of being partisan, contract to supply 155 mm How- are you not? You say that. if yo~ are in a itzer guns to India. majority. how will the truth come cut? Now, (2) The Committee shall enquire into alright we are partisan, but by saying this do the following matters:. you not raSed doubts of your being parti- san? Are you not partisan? Don't you have (i) whether the procedures. political motives? Are you without political laid down for the acquisi- motives? tion of weapons and sys- tems were adhered to in the (Interruptions) purchase of the Bofors' guns; MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. (ii) to ascertain the identity of SHRt K. C. PANT: So, let us not fool each ·the persons who received, other. Let us not bring the level of debate and the purpose for which down. I understand your objectives. All of they received, payments of us 'here understand, but we still have to the following amounts: work together. (a) SEK 170 - 250 million SHRt AMAL DATTA: I want to know whether Win Chadha is a non-resident (b) SEK 29.5 million Indian or not? (c) SEK 2.5 million MR. SPEAKER: You give me in writing, I will find out. from MIs. Bofors (as referred to in the Report of SHRI K. C. PANT: We have to work the Swedish National Audit together in this House and I have gone to Bureau, received by the such length only in the hope that our Govemment of India on friends will join us in the Committee: that June 4, 1987); we shall be able to go ahead with this Com- mittee and will be able to discharge the (iii) arising out of the enquiry, if responsibility that we owe to this House there is prima facie evi- and the ·country. Thank you. . dence that Mis. t3ofors have in addition to pay- MR. SPEAKER: You have to move. ments mentioned· in (ii) above, made any other SHRI K. C .. PANT: Sir, with these words I payments for securing the , move the amendment No. 7 to the original Indian contracts. the iden- motion. tity. of the persons whO, S61 IIc!tion re: Joint: SRAVANA 15,1909 (SAKA) Committee on Bofors 582 received such payments such directions as he thinks fit, shall be ascertained; provided that ~ch sub- Committee shall not hotd sittings. (iv) to determine if any Indian record evidence or take decisions laws/rules/regulations have in a foreign country. been violated either by M/s. Bofors or by persons as (9) That in other respects the Rules indicated in (ii) and (iii) of Procedure of this House relat- above. ing to Parliamentary Committees shall apply with such variations (3) That the Speaker shall nominate and modifications as the Speaker Ot Itt of' the Members of the COt"8- may make. ' mittet! to be its Chairman. (10) That the Committee shall make a (4) That the quorum of the Commit- report to this House by the last tee shall be one third of the total day of the first week of the next strength of the Committee. session of Parliament. (5) That the Comptroller and Auditor General of India and the Attorney (11) That this House recommends to Genend of India will provide assist- the Rajya Sabha that the Rajya ance to the Committee, as Sabha do jOin the Committee and necessary. indicate to this House the names of the Members from amongst the (6) That the investigating agencies Members of the Ra:;va Sabha to be of the Government of India shall on the Committee." (7) render such assistance to the Committee as may be required by it for the purposes of its MR. SPEAKER: The question is.... enquiry. Nothing else will go on record. (7) The Committee shall have the (Interruptions) power to ask for and receive evi- dence. oral or documentary. from foreign nationals or agen- MR. SPEAKER: He has already moved. cies provided that if any question Sir. arises whether the evidence of a person or the production of a ( Interruptions) ... document is relevant for the pur- poses of the Committee. the MR. SPEAKER: The question is that the question shall be referred to the amendment Nos. 1.2.3.4.5 and 6 moved by Speaker whose decision shall be S/Shri Somnath Chatterjee. Dinesh Gos- final. wami. Madhav Reddy. K.P. Unnikrishnan. Indrajit Gupta and Janga Reddy. respec- (8) If the Committee wish to nomi- tively to the motion moved by Shri K.C. nate a sub-Committee to visit a Pant.. .. foreign country for specified pur- poses connected . with the SHRf SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir. enquiry the matter shalt be our amendments are separate, referred to the Speaker who may take such decisions and, qive ( Interruptions J • • Not recorded. I 563 Motioff re: Joint AUGUST 6. 1987 MR. SPEAKER: Am I supposed to put MR. SPEAKER: I will put the amend- them sepa~ately? O.K. I 'will p~t them ments to the motion moved by Shri K.e. separately. pant to the vote of the House. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMt: Sir, , am on a SHRI K.·P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir. Shri point of order. Chatterjee's amendment comes first. Our amendments come first. (Interruptions) .. (Interruptions) .. MA. SPEAKER: If you want me to put saparately. I can do so. MR. SPEAKER: Shri K.P. Unnikrtshnan wants that the amendments should be taken up separately. Alright. I am taking. SHAI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, Shri Somnath Chatterjee's amendment first. amendments were giVen to the motion originally tabled by Mr. Pant. but now he SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir. let has put a completely different motion. We me speak before my amendment is put to are not given any opport'unity to $peak on the vote. it or to give any amendment to it. SHAI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: Yes, (Interruptions) ~ he should be allowed to speak on this. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Sir we must gave our amendments to the original react to what Mr. Pant has said. Don't you motion. like us to react to the Defence Minister's observations. We should be given an MR. SPEAKER: You have got opportunity. amendments? (Interruptions) .. (Interruptions) * SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, he MR. SPEAKER: Look he're. Rule 358 has completely changed his motion. says: MR. SPEAKER: He has brought an "Provided that nothing in this amendment. sub-rule shall be deemed to give any right of reply to the mover of SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Sir. he has an amendment to a Bill or a reso- changed the motion and all ollr amend- lution save with the permission of ments have become infructuous. the Speaker." MR. SPEAKER' The question is that the SHRr DlNESH GOSWAMI: Then, give amendment NO.7 moved by Shri Somnath us permission Sir. Chatterjee ..... MR. .sPEAKER: No Sir. I have already SHRI SAIFFUDtN CHOWDHARY: Sir, given. There ;s nothinfl more which I can let him speak. do now ... ( Interruptions) • (Interruptions) .. Not recorded. 565 Motion re: Joint SRAVANA 15, 1·909 {SAKA) Committee on Bofors 566 ,', SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put amend- want to speak on the amer.lded motion .... ment NO.3 moved by Shri Madhav Reddi ' f Interruptions) to vote. MA. SPEAKER: You have done it Amendment NO.3 was put and negatived. , already. I pave given you the fullest possi- ble opportunity to speak on that. MR. SPEAKER: I now put amendment No. 4 moved by Shri Unnikrishnan to the vote (Interruptions) of the House. MR. SPEAKER: No. I cannot. Amendment No.4 was put and negatived. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: They MR. SPEAKER: I now put amendment criticised the Opposition most unfairly NO.5 moved by Shri Indrajlt Gupta to vote. and unjustly .. ,. (Interruptions) , Amendment No.5 was put and negatived. MR. SPEAKER: You did it and he did it. I heard you and I heard him. MR. SPEAKER: I shalf put amendment No.6 moved by Shri C. Janga Reddy to the ( Interruptions) vote of the House. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Our point Amendment NO.6 was put and negatived. is... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Now, I put Amendment SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: We No. 7 moved by Shri K.C. Pan.t to the vote demanded a parliamentary probe. First of the House. The question is: they refused us ..... (Interruptions) "That the original motion may be (Interruptions) amended to read as follows:- MR. SPEAKER: No please. I cannot allow. I cannot allow another debate on (1) That a Joint Committee of both that. the Houses consisting of 30 members. 20 from Lok Sabha Now. I will put the amendments to the and 10 from Rajya Sabha. be vote of the House. separately. elected on the basis of propor- tional representation to 'enquire I now put amendment No. 1 moved by into the issues ariSing from the Shri Somnath Chattprjee to the vote of the Report of the Swedish. Nation~' House. Audit Bureau relating to the Bofors' contract to supply. 155 Amendment No. 1 was put and negatived. mm Howitz~r guns to India . .MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put amend· (2) The Committee shall enquire into ment No. 2 moved by Shri Oinesh Goswami the following matters: to the vote of the House. (i) whether the procedures Amendment No. 2 was put and negatived. 'aid down for the acquisi- tion of weapons and sys- Shri Somnath Chatterjee. Shri Oinesh tems were adhered to in the Goswami and some other hon. Members purhase of the Bofors' then left the House. gun: Not recorded 5f!i1 MotIOn re: JOint '. AUGUST 8. 1987 Committee On 'SofOtS ,.' (Mr. Speaker] the Government ot, India shall render such assistance to' the, (ii) to ascertain the identity of Committee as may be required by the persons who received. it for the purposes ~f its enquiry. and the purpose for wllich they received pay,ments of (7) The Committee shall have the the following amounts: power to ask for and receive evi- dence, oral or documentary. from (a) ,SEK 170- 250 millior foreign nationals or agencies pro- (b) SEK 29.5 million vided that if any question arises (c) SEK 2.5 million whether the evidence of a person from M/s Bofors (as or the production of a document referred to in the Report of is relevant for the purposes of th~ the Swedish National Audit Committee, the question shall be Bureau. received by the referred to the Speaker whose decision shall be final. Government OT India on June ,4. 1987); (8) If the Committee wish to nomi- (iii) arising out of the enquiry if nate a sub-Committee to visit a there is prima facie evi- foreign country for specified pur- dence that M/s Botors poses connected with the have in addition to pay- enquiry the matter shall be ments mentioned in (ii) referred to the Speaker who may above, made any other take such decisions and give payments for securing tlie such directions as he thinks fit, Indian contracts. the iden- provided that such sub- tity of the persons who Committee shall not hold sittings, received such payments record evidence or take decisions shall be ascertained; in a foreign country. (iv) to determine if any Indian (9) That in other respects the Rules laws/rules/regulations have of Procedure of this House relat- been violated either by M/s.• ing to F'hrliamentary Committees Bofors or by persons as shall apply -with such variations indicated in (ii) and (iii) and modifications as the Speaker above. may make. (3) That the Speaker shall nominate (10) That the Committee shall made a one of the Members of the Com- report to this House by the last mittee to be its Chairman. day of the first week of the next session of Parliament. . (4) That the quorum of the Commit- tee shall be one third of the total strength of the Committee. (11) That this House recommends to the Rajva ~bha that the Rajya '(5) That the Comptroller and Auditor Sabha do join the Committee and General of India and the Attorney indicate to this House the names General of India will provide ot the Members from amongst the assistance to the Committee. as Members of the Raiya Sabha to necessary . be on the Com'mittee." (7) . (6) That the investigating agencies of The motion was adopted. SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SA,KA) Sri'JJJnka Agr:eement 570 'MR. SPEAKER: Now, I put ~ motion as country. Immediately after' his return from amended to the vote of the House. Colombo, Prime Minister made statement' in both the Houses of Parliament The question is: regarding this agreement and the text of , the Agreement was laid on the Table of "That the motion, as amended, be both Houses. adopted." Both internationally and domestically . The motion was adopted. the Agreement has been welcomecd. World Leaders have conveyed their admiration . MR. SPEAKER: The BAC meeting was and praise for the courage, wisdom and to be held at 4 O' clock. But it COUld. not statesmanship shown' by Prime Minister be held because we are' all here. It will be Rajiv Gandhi and President Jayewardene. held tomorrow at 4 0' clock. But ther~ have been other voices, some openly sceptical while others almost hope- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY ful that the Agreement will not work. that it AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND will break down at the stage of implemen- CIVil SUPPLIES (SHRI H.K.l. 'BHAGAT): tation. This is not surprising as there are We are very· grateful to the han. Members, many who do not wish to see peace and whether they be on this side or on that, for stability in our region. That is why GaVern- having participated in this debate. I would ment would like to take the House into like to make an appeal to the members who confidence about the progress achieved left the House just now. We had an appre-· so far in the implementation of the hension that they would ask for a Commit- Agreement. tee and then they would blame us and walk out of it. But I still appeal to them to jOin this committee and cooperate with the Govern- As Members are aware, the Agreement ment and not adopt the attitude which they provides that the Sri Lanka Government are adopting now. may call upon the Indian Government to render military assistance to ensure the MR. SPEAKER: The BAC meeting will implementation of the Agreement. As be held tomorrow at 4 0' clock. Prime Minister informed the House on July '30, the Sri Lanka Government made a for- mal request for such assistance soon after .16.45 hI'S. the Agreement was signed. In keeping with our commitments under the Agreement. STATEMENT RE: PROGRESS ACHIEVED Indian troops landed in Jaffna on July 30 SO FAR IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF for assuming peace keeping functions and THE INDIA - SHRI LANKA AGREEMENT for helping in the implementation of the TO ESTABLISH PEACE AND NORMALCY Agreement. IN SRI LANKA A ceasefire between the Sri Lankan' security forces and the militants came into (English] effect as the Indian troops landed. The ceasefire has held till now almost without THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE any incident. For the first time in over four MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS years, peace and tranquility reign in the (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH): Mr. Speaker Northern and Eastern Provinces of Sri Sir. On July 29, the Prime Minister signed a Lanka. La.rge numbers. of people who ~ . hi~oric Agreement in Colombo with been rendered homeless and dispfaced President Jayewardene of Sri Lanka to from their areas of habitation have already establish peace and normalcy in ttv-· started returning to their homes. 571' St. re : Indo- AUGUST 6, 1987 Sri Lanka .~. -572 (Shri K. Natwar Singh) troops to assist in peace keeping functions' The next and perhaps the most crucial and in ensurin.g handing over of arms in- ~step was to persuade the militant groups, . the Northern and Eastern Provinces. We especially the Liberation Tigers of Tamil will continue to monitor progress and to . ~Iam, which is the largest and the most take timely action to implement the Agree- active group, to agree to abide by the ment as per its provisions. peace accord and to lay down arms. This was the essential first step before the pro- I am sure the House will agree with me . cess of. reconciliation and of healing the that progress in the implementation of the wounds of several years of ethnic conflict agreement has been remarkable by any could begin. The militants and especially standards a~d better than most people the L TTE had certain apprehensions and. would have expected. This has been the reservations, especially about their secur- result of patient and sustained diplomatic ity. With the cooperation of President ~aye efforts and a minute to minute monitoring wardene. we have been able to give them of progress. I would like to pay a tribute to credible assurances which have removed the wisdom. patience and farsighted sta- these doubts. tesmanship of President Jayewardene who has been steadfast in his resolve to I am glad to inform the House that the implement the Indo-Sri Lankan agreement L TTE informed within the 72 hour deadline in letter and in spirit. I would also like to pay expiring on the afternoon of August 3 that a tribute to the various Tamil groups and in they will lay down arms and that they will particular to the L TTE and its leader, Shri make a formal announcement to this effect Prabhakaran who, despite some major at a public meeting on August 4. Under the con~rns and reservations. have placed terms of the accord, arms have to be sur- their trust in India and their faith in the rendered to an authority designated by the future and have decided to abide by the President of Sri Lanka. On August 5, Presi- terms of the Agreement. They have done dent Jayewardene designated General this in the interests of peace, security and Attigalle, Defence Secretary of Sri Lanka prosperity for the people on whose behalf and General Harkirat Singh, Commander they had taken up arms in the first place. I of the Indian Forces in Jaffna as his desig- would also like to pay a tribute to the highly nated authorities to receive the arms to be professional competence of our Armed handed over by the militants. The same Forces who have gone about their afternoon, the formal handing over cerem- assigned task with professionalism. disci- ony took place and arms are now being pline and with a combination of tact and deposited with the designated authorities firmness. They are there as guests of the at different collection centres. We expect Sri Lankan Government and people, both this process to be completed within a few Tamils and Sinhalese and they have estab- days. lished excellent rapport with both the militanls and the Sri Lankan security As a further step in the reconciliation forces. process, President Jayewardene has announced a general a-mnesty for all mil- Last but not the least, I would like to . itants who Jay down arms. This amnesty mention that the vast majority of the peo-. will also apply·to those who are imprisoned pie of Sri Lanka, both Sinhalese and Tamils, and those who have been accused of mil- desire nothing but peace and harmony in itant a~ivity under relevant Sri lankan their country. There has been an over- laws. Today President Jayewardene has whelming sense of relief and joy among a announced his decision to ~ up a single vast majority of all sections of the Sri Lan- ~nterim administrative muncil for the kan population at the prospect of peace Nor1h.em and Eastern Provinces. ine Sri and security. , have flO doubt that an lanka Government has also requested OUf equally vast majority of the Sinhala and , , 57~ Payment of 'Gratuity SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) (Amdt.) Bill 574 Muslim Communities would ,also welcome within the purview of this Act could get the an accord which brings peace, stability benefit of gratuity. After sometime the hon. and progress to their country. I would like Minister of Labour presented an amend- to conclude by reiterating the government ment Bill in this House under which this of India's determination to implement the limit was raised from Rs. 1600 to Rs. 2500. accord'lin letter and in spirit and to cooper- In this connection I would like to make a ate fully with the Sri Lankan Government submission to the· hon. Minister of Labour in this respect. that it was a commendable step' to raise this limit from As. 1600 to Rs. 2500. Keep- SHAI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- ing in view the fact that we have in our p~layam): Hats off to Rajiv Gandhi and country private limited companies like M.G.R. for having brought about an amica- Richardson and Hindustan, where workers ble and historic accord' get wages to the extent of Rs. 2900. this limit of Rs. 2500 should further be raised to at 16.51 hrs. least Rs. 3500. [MR, DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] My second submission is that though you have covered all the factories and PAYMENT OF GRATUITY (AMEND- mines. yet you have used words like "cer- MENT) BILL-Contd. tain other establishments" " would like the hon. Minister to clarify as to what he means [English] by this expression. Our endeavour should be to provide the facility of gratuity even to MR. t>EPUTY SPEAKER: We now such workers as are working in depart- resume further consideration of the follow- ments other than those included in this ing motion moved by Shri P.A. San9ma, on Bill, and are drawing wages upto Rs. the 30th July 1987. namely: 2500/-. "That the Bill further to amend 16.54 m. the Payment of Gratuity Act, 1972, as passed by Rajya Sabha. [SHRIMATI BASAvARAJESWARI in the be taken into consideration." Chair] Now ur. Chandra Shekhar Tripathi. I would further like to submit here. that the condition of 240 days service in a year [Translation 1 in the compulsory provision made by us in regard to the payment of gratuity has been DR. CHANDRA. SHEKHAR TRIPATHI posing great difficulties. It is very often (Khalilabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I seen that employers give a break in semce rise to support the Gratuity (Amendment) to the worker after he has wot1<.ed for 10 to Bill which has been presented by the hon. 15 or 20 days. or retrench him from service. Minister of Labour in the House. It is a fact With such a provision. the workers will find th~t in a vast country like ours all the facili- it very difficutt to get gratuity. A number of ties are not available to all persons. But instances can be given to show that the gratuity and provident fund occupy an 'NOrkers, even after working for 4 t, 5 years important place in the lives of the workers io a factory, do not get the benefit Qf gra- and their families. Payment J)f Gratuity' Act tuity because of the breaks in service given was first enacted in 1972. providing for to them from time to time. Therefore. this payment of gratuity to those workers ,in condition of service of 240 days in a year factories. mines. plantations and raifway should be relaxed. or a provision be made companies whose wages were not more , to prevent the employer from playing-WIth than Rs. 1600. As such. the workers falling the career of a worker by appointing or 575 Pa)'llWtt of Gratuiiy AUGUST 6, 1987 , '(AmiIt.1 BJJI 578 (Dr. ,Chandra Shekhar Trtpathi] made that if th8 payment of gratuity. is riot r:etrenching him at his own -sweet will. made within one mOnth, then the employer Besides, according to this Bill, five ye8rs' will have to pay simple interest on thilt service is a prerequisite for entitlement to amount. get gratuity. I request that this five years' period ,be reduced to one year: It is not Madam, it is. a commendable step but proper to fix any such period of service for you will have to fix a time-limit within a new entrant because after one year's ser- which amount is to be paid to the worker vice he becomes eligible for Provident because the rate of sjmple interest is very Fund under the present law. Thus, it is not low and if the employer does not pay the in the. fitness of things to fix five years' gratuity amount even upto one year and period for gratuity and it would not be in has to pay simple interest thereon. it does the interest of the workers. Similarly, the not make much difference to him but the provision of payment of gratuity for fifteen worker, has to suffer a, lot due to the days wages for each compie ted_ year of delayed' payment. 'The members of his service after ten years of service also does family are driven to the brink Of starvation. not appear to be sound. He should be Therefore. , request the Government to given one month salary by way of gra- make a provision to the effect that if an tuity. Many hone Members have raised employer does not pay gratuity within six objections about the maximum limit of Rs. months. he may be asked to pay simple 50,000. If this limit is applicable in the case interest thereon and after six months some of the person drawing As. 2500, then his penal interest should be charged from the total- wages for 20 months comes to As. employer so that he may make the pay- 50,000 and at the rate at which the value of ment as earty as possible. Just as Provi- our rupee is declining and the prices of dent Fund Commissioners are appointed essential commodities going up. after ten for the facility of Provident Fund, a trust years these fifty thousand rupees will have known as gratuity Trust Fund should be the value equal to that of five thousand operated in every establishment having rupees only. The present value of our more than 500 workers. I fail to understand rupee is 16-17 paise only. The purchasing as to when gratuity will be paid to the power of the rupee at that time will be workers working in establishments which much less than what it is tOday. As such, have less than 500 workers. This should be this will not be of much benefit to the regularised and gratlJity trust be created in workers and thus the purpose of the all the establishment:, Irrespective ot Government will not be achieved. whether the strength of an establishment is Hon. Chainnan, it is true that tht! 10,50 or 500. This would be in the interest Government has been bringing forward of workers. varioUs laWs from time to time for the wel- fare of the workers and for raising their 17.00 tn. standard of living, which sbows that the Government is conscious of the interests Therefore, I request the hon. Minister to Of the wOrkers but there are such instances relax the limit of 500 and implement this -also where the worker, after termination of law in every establishment irrespective of his'services under certain unusual circum- the number of workers working therein stances or in the event of his death. hie and set up the gratuity trust fund so that widow has to face a lot of difficulties to the employees could get the payment in get the payment Qf gratuity and provident time. With these words, I support this Bill. fund. He has to run from pillar to post for months together to get back his own SHRI MADAN PANDEY (Gorakhpur): I money. This results in sheer wastage of his am thankfut to you for giving me the oppor- money and energy. This should not be tunity to speak.'. congratulate the present there. 1'heraforet a provision has been Minister of State for Labour, 'Shri Sangma 577 Payurent of Gratuity SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) Amdt} BI71 578 that he has taken many steps to ameliorate useful purpose will be served by just enact- the -'ot of workers and now the workers ing the laws. Implementation of these laws have high hopes from him. is more important. I fail to understand as to why our Government is not inten;JSted in I support this Bill as it deserves whole- implementing these laws. I want to cite an hearteci,support from all quarters. Keeping example. Birla Group's Company HIN- in view the amendments proposed in this DALeO has entered into an agreement Bill as also those made in the past. I have a with the workers that one month's salary suggestiO(' to make to the hon. Ministe}. will be paid as gratuity. We could 1lOt Keeping in view the present position of our understand the basis of this agreement. Government and the social conditions of our country. how far is it possible to amend this law again and again? We raised the I whole-heartedly support this Bill but amount of gratuity from As. 750 to Rs. 1600 request the Government to see the·writing and now we are going to raise it further to on the wall and raise the fifteen days' limit of Rs. 2500 and both these amendments are to one month in the case gratuity. being made in the present Lok Sabha itself. '»elieve that the Labour Minister will again The amount of gratuity which is depos- have to bring forward another amendment ited in our account is paid to us after retire- within the term of this Lok Sabha that this ment. You have made so many laws for it. A ceiling may be dispensed with and the provision for penalty of ten thousand wages of the workers be increased. I rupees and one year's imprisonment has request the hon'ble Minister to consider been made but it should be implemented this aspect and in our present socio- in letter and spirit. Only then it will be bene- economic set up. there is no room for the ficial. You will have to evolve some way-out Ceiling and the floor. If these two are not for it. I remember the case of Sugar mills. I can give you proofs, should you desire me done away with. good results will not be forthcoming. to do so. There the employer has gobbled up the amount of provident fund. The amount of gratuity is due but there is no We are enacting a law. making persons knowledge of the whereabouts of the drawing upto Rs. 2500 entitled to get gra- employer and the workers are leading a tuity but the Chairman and the Managers very miserable life. As regards the of big companies in the private sector are -realisation of the amount of gratuity etc. being paid large amounts as gratuity. you may provide for whatever penalty you There is no ceiling or floor for them. The like-As. 10 thousand or 5 thousand in the money being paid to them by way of gra- _law but the employer will pay the fine only tuity is also our money. Laws are enforced when he -is found out otherwise even the only on the poor people and those who are interest that he would earn on amounts rich and affluent are immune from these saved by him by no1 paying the gratuity laws. I support these amendments but in etc. to the workers will be sufficient to future it must be kept in mind that this sustain him throughout his life. So taking ceiling should be abolished· for all and not this in view. some arrangement should be for a selected few. If this ceiling is not made to ensure thilt the workers get the dispensed with. then you will have to bring gratuity amount. The intention of the hen. forward another amendment. Minister is no doubt good and the steps that he has taken are also praise-worthy Government has fixed the cemng of Rs. but the employers are also clever enough 50,000 or 20 months' -wages for gratuity to evade the payment of gratuity. Taking and has provided for paying 15 days' this point into consideration. the hone wages as the gratUity. I have stated a Minister should take fl8CeSSIlry measure 10 number of times in the House that the pe0- make it obligatory on the p~.rt of the ownel" ple are fast moving ahead. As SUCh. no of a factQry to deposit the amount of 579 Payment of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1987 (AtnrJt.J sm 580 [Shri Madan Pandey] private firms and public undertakings give better satary to their workers, so it is essen- tial that those workers should also get the gratuity with the Government, as is done in benefit of this Bill. So, in my opinion, the the case of provident fund. You will have to limit of salary should be increased to Rs. find some way out for the gratuity as well. 3,000/- or Rs. 3.200/-. It is also essential A trust can be set up or some fund can be that the lower ceiling of salary of workers opened and the amount of gratuity of the should be fixed at least at Rs. 500/- for the worker can be deposited with it so that the purpose of gratuity. The base of salary for worker is not compelled to beg before the paying gratuity should be fixed at As. 500/- employer. If some such measure is not instead of at Rs. 3501-. If we treat their taken, then there will be no use of any law present salary as the base, then the that is enacted. So, some suitable measure amount of gratuity will be much less. should be taken at any cost.. You can throw some light in this connection. If we pass Previously, the ceiling for gratuity was the Bill by bringing some kind of twenty months pay which has been amendment to it. it will please the workers increased to Rs. 50,000. I would like to sug- and the capitalists will not be able to cheat gest that as at present the value of rupee the workers in this respect. has declined considerably, and taking into consideration the decreasing value ot a 17.12 hI'S. rupee, the amount of Rs. 50,000 is very meagre. The workers should get atleast [MR. DePUTY SPeAKER in the Chair] Rs. 75,000/- as gratuity. They should also be intimated two months before their retire- With these words, I shall not take much ment about their accounts. If they are not time of the House and would request that intimated about their accounts. If they are such laws should be followed strictly. not intimated about their accounts beto.re Some easy way-out must be found to rea- one or two months of their retirement, ~hey lise the amount of gratuity so that the will have to face difficulty because once workers may not have to run from pillor to they are retired, nobody cares for them. post. Besides the provision of paying 15 The worker should be intimated in regard days wages as gratuity on each completed to the amount of his gratuity at least one year of service should be changed and month before his retirement so that it may instead of 15 days. one month salary be paid imm~diately to him. It is proposed should be paid as gratuity and steps to charge simple interest on the gratuity if should also be taken to end both. the ceil- the employer does not make payment of ings. If you cannot take this step now, an gratuity to the workers within one month of amendment to this effect may be brought his retirement. But there are a number of forward next time. With these words, I con- such employers who will take advantage of vey my thanks to you and support this Bill. it. They would not make payment of gra- tuity for a month because they will have to SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): Mr; pay only simple interest and they will be' Deputy Speaker, Sir. we welcome this Bill. able to reap a number of benefits using this The hone Minister has taken some good provision as a tool. I would request you to steps for the weHare of the workers. I reconsider this maner. Actually the pay- would like to give a few suggestions to the ment of gratuity should be made within hone Minister through you. one week and if this payment is not made to workers within one week of his retire- The gratuity Act has ~n made applica- ment. some penal action should' be taken ble in the case of the workers drawing against employer so that he may have salary upto As. 2500/-. It is a good step some fear in his mind that if gratuity is not but at present a number of workers are paid to the workers with in time, legal drawing more than Rs. 2500/-. A number of paid 'to the workers within time, legal 581 Payment Of Gratuity SAAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKAl (Amdt.) Bill 582 fixed a month's time for making payment Members· who have partiCipated .in this of gratuity thereby allowing the employer debate and have fully supported· this to take advantage at the expense of the Amendment Bill, thoUgh. Dr. Rajhans workers. I would request you to reconsider wanted this Bill to be a foolproof Bill. Hon. it so that gratuity is paid to the workers Dr. Datta Samant h~ been a little uncharit- immediately after their retirement. able in saying that Labour Ministry has done nothing for the workers. Dr. Datta My last suggestion is that the Govern- Samant was a part. arid parcel of the ment should plug the loopholes ih the pay- Labour Ministry some time back in his ment of Gratuity Act so that the employers career before I came in tougtYwith the may not be able to take advantage of them Labour Ministry. I thought Dr. Datta Sam- and gratuity is paid to the workers as soon ant will at least claim during that time when as it becomes due to them. The capitalists he was a part and parcel of the Ministry, find out such loopholes so as to deprive something good had been done. Anyway, the workers of their just rights. There is we have tried to bring some improvement need to plug these loopholes. You cannot in the Gratuity Act. I certainly do not claim solve the problems by just enacting laws that it is a foolproof Act. No law can be so because already there are so many laws in foolproof, I am afraid. It has brought some existence. There is no dearth of employers amendments. Wage limit has been who want to evade the payment of gratuity increased from As. 1600 to As. 2500 which in the area where you are working and means now that it will cover more workers. taking recourse to the laws. The Govern- ment has good intentions and it wants to Shri Vyas and some other hon. do a lot in this field and it has enacted laws members-Shri Aaj Mangal Pande has just for the welfare of the labour, but there are now said that As. 2500 ceili~g also is not persons who want to harass the workers enough and there should have been no by taking advantage of the loopholes. ceiling at all and that I should come back to Therefore, such areas should be identified this House and the ceiling should be where the employers take advantage of the increased. I want to submit that I need not loopholes and harass the workers. Some come back to the House to increase this wayout should be found to plug these ceiling because by raising this limit from loopholes. Rs. 1600 to As. 2500 we have also provided an enabling provision for enhancing the Presently, a worker becomes entitled to limit. Whenever Government feels that it gratuity if he has at his credit 5 years' quali- should be enhanced. the limit could be fying service, but in case of substitute or raised. So this enabling provision is availa- contract workers, it is very difficuH to fulfil ble in this Amendment Bill. Whenever we this condition. The employers try their best feel that the ceiling of As. 2500 should be to see that such workers do not get the raised we can rAise it. gratuity. I WOUld, therefore. urge upon the Dr. Datta Samant has, of course, made a Government that the worker who has point saying that there is no meaning As. worked for 240 days in a year, should 1600. As. 2500 becau~ it will be calculated become entitled to get payment of gratuity. @ As. 1600. which is not true. So, the law is Necessary prOvisions should be incorpo- that the gratuity will be payable on the rated in the Bill for this purpose basis of the last pay drawn. It can be Rs. 1700 or it can be Rs. 1800. With these words, I support this Bill. DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South [English] Central) : As per this Act. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI P.A. SANGMA: Yes. "'Of course, as . MINISTRY OF. LABOUR (SHRI P.A. per the original Act, on the last pay drawn. SANG,MA): Sir, I am grateful to the hon. It will be calculated on the basis of the last 583 Payment of a""uity AUGUST 6. 1987 (AmdI.) Bin 584· (Shri PA. Sangma) dered for a considerable period and as such it is essential that pay drawn. Bt,Jt upper limit is at the longer minimum period should .moment As. 25001-. But Government can be prescribed for earning gratuity without coming for an amendment raise it. in case of voluntary resignation." This is the law. DR. DATTA SA\A,\Nl;.: Let it be clear. This is what the Punjab High Court has said. I want to make it very clear that we SHRI P.A. SANGMA: It is very clear. respectfully differ from the judgement of ttie Punjab High Cc?uri and we have gone DR. DATTA SAMANT: Somebody is on appeal, the Government has gone on drawing As. 2000. Gratuity will be calcu- appeal against the decision of the Punjab lated on As. 2000 as per this Act. High Cqurt. The matter is now lying with the Supreme Court and when the matter is SHAI P.A. SANGMA: Ves. of course- sub judice before the Supreme Court. I last pay drawn upto As. 2500/-. cannot come and say that the qualifying year of service should be less than five SHRI ANANDA GOPAL MUKHOPAD- years because five years period has been HYAY (Asansol): That is a silver line. struck down. This is the position which I want to clarify. SHAI P.A. SANGMA: You did not read it property. Dr. Samant. What can , do? DR. DATTA SAMANT: There are a So. that is a wrong explanation which I number of judgements and they do not think was supposed to be given" come in your way. Now the second point which the hone SHRI P.A. SANGMA: I do n9t know Members have unanimously raised was where you have seen that the 22 days in a the qualifying years of service-five years month have been taken for calculation. It is of qualifying service-why shou'd it be five not so. yeatS? A person who has put in one years service should also be entiUed to gratuity DR. DATTA SAMANT: It is given there. fund, the benefit of gratuity. This is what It is 22 days. the hone members have-pleaded. I wish we could have done that. But at the moment SHRI P.A. SANGMA: No, no. The we are not in a position to do because even Supreme Court's ruling is 26 days and this with five years of qualifying service under is what I am implementing now. You show Section 4A of Payment of Gratuity Act. on me the Supreme Court's ruling. I am very somebody's petition the Punjab High firm on this judgement. Dr. Samant. Jwas a Court has struck down this particular Sec- lawyer by profession and I have also seen tion 4(1). It says that in order to be entitled the judgement. to gratuity benefit one should complete five years of service. DR. DATTA SAMANT: My workers 8re getting. Now. it is observed like this and I quote the observation made by the Punjab High SHRI P. A. SANGMA: I know that your Court:- workers are getting much more than oth- ers. That ;s why you are worried about As. 1"he gratuity is essentially a 2500 limit. But you said that in -Bombay retirement benefit paVable to the people were getting more than As. 2500 workmen _ a reward for good, per month. So many people are getting efficient and faithful service Rtf1- more than As. 2500. Why are you woRied? 585 Payment 01 aratulty SRAVANA 15. 1909 (SAKA) (Amdt.J BIll 588 OR.-·DATTA SAMANT: Now, I am for the need of making proviSion of interest? ~untry, Sir. SHRI P.A. SANGMA: Vyasji, you were SHRI P.A. SANGMA: There are some not present when I replied to your point. peopte who are getting Rs. 6 a day in Maha,..shtra. (Interruptions) SHRI GIRDHAR~ LAL VYAS (Bhilwara) : It should be .yearly. Sir, a point has been made that those who are not in regular service. the qualify- SHAI P.A. SANGMA: The case is lying ing days of work are 240 days. It has been pending in the Supreme Court. mentioned that this has not been made with leave. holidays and sickness and so SHAI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: We gave many other things. It is very difficult for a suggestion for Trust Fund. There should casual and contract labour to -fuHiI 240 be provision of insurance. days of qualifying days of work. Now. in this amendment we have come with a SHRI P.A. SANGMA: This was a point in proposal that for the purpose of counting regard to the Trust Fund. the 240 days work in a year. the leave and [English] holidays shall also be counted. Even if a person has not worked for a national holi- Well. people who are employing 500 or days. these days will be counted as having less should be exempted from going for worked for the purpose of calculating the the trust fund. For them, it is a compulsory payment of gratuity. So. that is a slight insurance. They should also be allowed to improvement. There has been a demand go for trust fund, if they want. Now, the Act that it should be brought down to 120 days. provides that this trust fund should be That can be examined. But I must say that made from the date of the notification of there is a slight improvement in this the Act. If somebody has already created a because holidays and other things have trust fund. those establishments which are been taken into account. employing below 500 people, then they shall be allowed to continue with the fund. The tnird point which was raised by the In fact. I had the delegation of some of the hon. Members was about the payment of establishments. ThflY wanted that they interest that if the management does not should be allowed to create fund. I said. pay the gratuity within a period of one before the Act is notified you go ahead. We month. they shall be liable to pay interest \Yill not disturb you and you shatl be and that interest will be a simple interest. allowed. If any employers employing less Now. many hon. Members have said that than 500 want to go for creation of trust instead of simple interest. it should be fund. they are welcome to do it and they compound interest. Now. if a particular shall not be distrubed. They will be dis- worker really feels that he should get com- turbed only after the notification of this DOund interest because it has been Act. delayed too much. he can go in for ctaim to the competent authority and the compe- One hone Member has raised the ques- tent authority has the power of awarding to tion of penalty, that the penalty is not a worker the compound interest. So. that stringent enough. The original Act pr0- provision has also been made. Then. of vides. for the contravention of any ~ course. the whole House has welcomed -sions of this Act, he is punishable and • may extend to one year imprisor1rneftt:· the proposal for creation of Gratuity Trust That is. maximum limit has been put -at -. Fund and also compulsory insurance. course, Mr. Digha. as a lawyer knows. .... ' (Translation) it may extend to one year means, ~-:; till the rising of the court orRs. 5_"'sa.-~: SHRf HARISH RAWAT: What is the this is what we experiet at _ 1IMj4Ila..::---,~~ , 581 Payment -of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1987 (Arndt.) Bill 588 _DR. DATTA SAMANT: So tar, nobody is be in future, depending upon the eco- ' punished for the last 40 years. nomic growth, we can think of that. SHRt P.A. SANGMA: The proposal which we have 'brought here is, the min- Now, for the purpose of giving gratuityt I - imum periQd of imprisonment is pres- have explained Dr. Samanfs point of ?2 cribed, on the other hand. Instead of days or 23 days. The point was why only 15 saying, it may extend to one year, I have days salary, it should be one month salary. said that the punishment will be impriso,;- This is absolutely in line with the gratuity ment of not less than three months. It can payable to the Government servants. Even be more than 3 months to any extent but it the Governm.ent, servants under the shall not be less than three months. There Government of 'India Gratuity settlement is ·certainly' an improvement in that. You also get gratuity equivalent to 15 days or cannot .say that the quantum of punish- half a month's pay. So, we have also fol- ment is not enough. ' lowed the same thing. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Nobody was arrested in 40 years, you forget about I do not think there has been any other punishment. important points raised. These are some of the points raised. But I can assure the hon. SHR. P.A. SANGMA: The point which Members that as far as covering of more Mr. Dighe vehemently made, quoting from establishments is concerned, Government what you call the statement made by the is competent. then L..abI)ur Minister is tllat the payment of gratuity shall be made applicable to all [Translation] establishments irrespective of how many number of people are employed. We did SHAI GIADHAAI LAL VYAS: What have discuss this issue very thoroughly. Now you done about the bonus? You said that the establishments which are employing 8.33 per cent will be given to all the less than 10 people are really a very tiny employees. If you are giving 8.33 per cent sector. They are not even a small4'scale as bonus, then why don't you give gratuity? sector. They are actually known in the There is no rationale behind paying bonus industry as tiny sector and most of them to the Government .,employees, but they are self-employed people. We are already are also getting one month's salary as having a lot of representations from the bonus. tiny sector that they are subjected to so many labour laws. I also feel that tiny sec- [English] tors which are employing less than 10 pe0- ple and most of them are self-employed DR. DATTA SAMANT: Staff Council people, they should not be subjected to so minimum salary for gratuity. at least many burdens. That is why, we have delib- RS.11/- we are asking for the minimum erately at this stage, kept them out. It is wage. Somewhere it ;s As. 400 or As. 500/- because, we must also encourage people to have self-employment for themselves - SHAI P.A. SANGMA: No, no. There is no and then create some emp'oymentfor oth- . minimum limit. Any amount is applicable. ers. If you put too much of pressure on The qualifying. thing is only in establish- them tt-t they have to pay provident fund. ments with ten or more workers. The ESJ Contribution. gratuity fund and aU salary, bottom line limit is there. It will be those things then. I don't think, we will be Rs. 10/-. There is no probaem .. Only upper in a position to encourage 8e11- ceiling is As. 2,500/- at this instance now. employment for the people. That is why, But we have enabling power up to Rs. we have ~ gone for those people who 3,000/- or Rs. 3,SOO/- as per the situation. have employed less than 10 people. May- There is no restriction on lOwer limit. 589 Payment of Gratuity SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) (Arndt.) Bill 590 DR. DATTA SAMANT: It is much less. 1972, as passed by. Rajya Sabha,_ be taken into consideration." SHR. P.A. SANGMA: Bonus and gra- tuity are quite two different concepts. I do The motion was adopted. not think these are comparable and, of course" about the concept of bonus which MA. OEPUTY SPEAKER: Now. we will we started, I do not want to make a com- take up clause by clause consideration of ment here now about bonus. But bonus is the Bill. different from gratuity. So, it cannot be compared. But gratuity payable to Central Government employees is half a month's Clause 2- (Amendment of section 2) salary and we are precisely followi ng the DR. DATTA SAMANT: I beg to move: same thing for industrial workers also. "Page 2.- As far as the coverage of more catego- ries of establishments is concerned, we after line 7. insert ..... have been extending the Gratuity Act to many establishments and we have also '(iii) after clause (h). the following now decided to extend it ttl sol11e other clause (hh) shall be inserted. category of establishments like Air Trans- namely:- port Undertakings, t-:l0using Board or Housing Corporations, Electricity Boards, at the moment, it is not applicable, we are (hh) "Gratuity" means the going to make it applicable, ~ater and amount of wages last Sewage Board. Cold Storages, Banks drawn by an employee;" and other financial institutions, Educa- (1) tional institutions. Also we are going to cover now, Hospital and Medical institu- In -the first amendment. there is printing tions, establishments engaged in produc- mistake. On the last salary. gratuity should tion, distribution, processing and display be paid. That is the meaning. But. the good of films, laboratories, museum, Botanical point is that. many of the workers in multi- and Zoological Gardens and so on and so nationals and all companies are drawing forth. We are going to cover more and more than As. 2.500/- salary and some- more establishments. body drawing Rs. 3.000/-is totally disquali- fied as per this Act. kmployers always take advantage. Somebody drawing Rs. 2,500/- These are the few changes. We have will get Rs. 50.000/-. But somebody draw- brought in some improvement. As is the ing As. 2.EDl/- will not get anytl'\ing. The practice, constantly we review the working Act is not proper. So. amendment should of all the labour laws and whenever we find have been made. to the effect that some- that something new should be brought in, body who is drawing more than As. 2500' we always do that and we shall even watch will get this amount as per As. 2500/- This how this Act is being implemented. and is the loophole. As per this Act, 80 per cent how it is brought in and if there is any of my workers working in the Premier deficiency. we are always willing to Automobiles etc. all thOSP. people will not compensate. get the gratuity. So. I request tl:lat the hon. Minister must do the correction. (Interrup- tions) There are many industrial workers. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question Now-a-days. the salary has gone up is: already. That is why I am suggesting this thing. There are some big ind",trIes like "That the em further to amend Glaxo and many oJher pharmaceuttcal the payment of Gratuity Act. units. They are paying salary as As. 30001- . 581 Payment of Gratuity AUGUST 6, 1987 , (J4mdt.fBlII 592 (Dr. Datta Samant) "That Clauses 2 and 3 stand part of the Bin". etc. Let ~m give even As. one lakh. Why you are going to come In between? Other- The motion was adopted. wise that money is going to become black money. That is ~y intention of moving this Clauses 2 and 3 were added to the Bill. amendment So, I humbly request the hone Minister that Rs. 2500 be the calculation. Clause, 4 ... ( Amendment of Section 4) Workers who are getting ,As. 2500. for them the gratuity should be paid on As. 2500/- Otherwise a number of workers will be MR. DATTA SAMANT:'I beg to move totally disqualified. As per this Clause. they remain at the mercy of the employers. This "Page 2, line 45,- improvement should be done. That is my first amendment. My second amendment after "twenty-six" insert- is...... "or by twenty-two where working days in an establishment are twenty-two" (2) , MA. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, no. There is only one amendment. Let the Minister I have already spoken in my speech .... reply first. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Then why are SHRI P.A. SANGMA: I have already you repeating again? explained it. I have given it in Clause 2 which says: for the words "one thousand DR. DATTA SAMANT: Let it be on and six hundred rupees per mensem", the record. Even by dividing the monthly words ~o thousand and five hundred salary by 26 which is the system at present rupees per mensem, or-please note- and which the hone Minister has proposed such higher amount as the Central now-the workers will get 15 per cent Government may. having regard to the more. That is a good thing. But what I am general level of wages, by notification, again observing is that 26 means the work- spec•..."fy " ing days of the month is 26. But in Bombay and in many big factories, the working So, we have, at the moment, raised it from days are 22. Therefore, the monthly salary As. 1600 to As. 2500/- " we think it neces- be divided by 22 i.e. one day's salary is sary to raise further, we have got this ena- multiplied by 15. It is gOing to give another bling prOvisIon here. We will do it in future. 15 per cent more gratUity. In this connec- tion, I would like to refer to the Supreme MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I shall now put Court's judgement 4 years back in the the amendment moved by Dr. Datta Sam- Glaxo case, which is one of the p'harma- ant to the vote of the House. ceutical companies. The Supreme Court has directed that this monthly salary should be divided by 22. Find out one days salary and multiply by 15. It has been Amendment ~ 1 was put and implemented in about 15-20 factories. negatived. Therefore, where the ·working days of the month are 22, it should be divided by 22. I Ahink the hone Minister will correct it. MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: There ;s no amendmant given notice of to Clause 3. • SHAt P.A. SANGMA: J have stated in my TherilA1l1'11aefori...... ' I M1 putting Clauses 2 and 3 to reply that this matter was gone into by the the vote of .. HouSe. The question is: Supreme Court and the Supreme Court 593 Payment of Gratuity SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA)' (Amdt.) Bill 594 has given its ruling. I am onty.imptement- is this. The workers should get the interest ·jng the Supreme Cou~'s. ruling that the on these instalments paid by the employer. ' month will be taken as 26 days. So, this is The gratuity amount must go up. What I the Supreme Court's ruling. I calVlot help am sugge.~ing is a very genuine thing. For it. ' every year I must get a gratuity of 1·5 days; for 30 years I am working. Whatever instal- MR. OEPUTV SPEAKER: I shall now put ments you are' pavinQ to the insurance, the amendment moved by Dr. Datta Sam- LIC, on that -I·should get the accumulated ant to the vote of the House. interest at the tim'e of my retirement. Government should consider this because Amendment No.2 was pUt and negatived. the value of the rupee is going down, and actually the workers are getting the same MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question amount after a number of years. The textile is: workers got just Rs. 9000/- as gratuity. What can be done in a city like Bombay? "That Clause 4 do stand part of the Bill." Therefore. the Government should at least consider this amend.ment. The motion was adopted. SHAI P.A. SANGMA: I am not accepting Clause 4 was added to the Bill. it. Clause 5-(1nsertion of new Section 4A) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I shall now put Amendment No.3, moved by Dr. Datta DR. DATTA SAMANT: I beg to move: Samant, to the vote of the House. 'Page 3,- Amendment NO.3 was put and negatived. after tine 43, insert-. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There is no amendment given notice of to Clause 6. "(SA). The worker shall a~ get the I So, I shall put Clauses 5 and 6 together to interest on the instalments paid' the vote of the House. by the employer towards the gra- tuity fund alongwith the gratuity The question is: payable to him at the end of his ~rvice." (3) "That Clauses 5 and 6 stand part of the BiI[" Sir, this' is a very important issue. The hon. Minister has not given his reply to this The motion was adopted.. also. I want you to find out. Clauses 5 and 6 were added to the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Even if he gives, you will move it and speak. Clause 7-(Amendment of Section 7)- DR. DATTA SAMANT: The workers are OR. DATTA SAMANT: Sir, I beg to working for a period _of 30-40 years and move: retire after that. Within the 30 years, the valu~ of Rupee is going down. Previously. 'Page 4,- the value of rupee was 60 paisa. Now it is only 14 nava Daisa ..Here the point is,this. Omit lines 12 to 22: (4) The hone Minister has been kind enough to start compulsory insurance of employers' Not only have I spoken on this, but even liability. It is giving guarantee for the Members from the Treasury Benches have workers. It is a good move. But what I want supported it. When 'a'worker retires or dies•. 595 Payment of Gratuity AUGUST 6,1987 (Amdt:) Bill 598 [Dr. Datta Samant] the hon. Member is saying, that has been provided for in this Bill. We are saying that at that time he is going to be paid gratuity. the gratuity must be paid within a period of One month's time should be sufficient for one moGth. It was not there earlier. There was, this purpose. therefore, a lot of deiay in the payment being made to workers. Now we are saying In the Bill, a provision is being made that that it must be paid within a period of one with simple interest they can go on. This month· and in case they fail, the workers will be very badly used by the employers must get interest He was talking about because in the banks and outside the inter- simple interest. I have also said another est rate is 18 or 20 per cent. If the employ- thing. He has not read Clause 8. Clause 8 ers know that they can delay payment of says that the contrOlling authority can also' the gratuity amount, they will exploit it. At impose compound interest; the only con- the time of retirement, the workers need dition is that the interest imposed should this gratuity amount because provident not exceed the total amount of gratuity. It fund money, they get after six months. may be one paisa less or two paise less, but About 10 to 15 per cent of the workers die should not exceed the total amount of gra:- at the time of retirement and, therefore, tuity. That is the only restriction we have their families, wife or children, go there and put. ask for the gratuity amount. It should be paid immediately. 'This provision of giving MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I shall now put simple interest should not be put in this law Amendment No.4. moved by Dr. Datta at all. On the contrary it must be made Samant. to the vote of the Ho~se. compulsory that, whenever a~y worker retires or dies, the gratuity amount must be Amendment No. 4 was put and paid within one month. I think, the hon. negatived. Minister will agree with me in this. If there is a provision for giving simple interest, then MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, there are the employers will exploit the situation and no amendme'nts to Clauses 8 and 9. So, I will use the money of the workers. The shall now put Clauses 7 to 9 together to the second thing which is going to happen is vote of the House. this~ At the time the gratuity amount is to be paid. the worker is out of the factory; he is The question is: helpless; he wants the money. I have seen the widow wives of the workers going to "That Clauses 7 to 9 stand part of the employers and pleading with them. the Bill" The employers exploit the situation: they will say. "An amount of As. 30,000 is due; The motion was adopted. but if you w;:lnt payment, you take As. 20,000/-" and they will take her signature Clauses 7 to 9 were added to the Bill. for the full amount. Therefore, I totally Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the oppose introduction of this amendment Title were added to the Bi/l. which was not there in the law earlier. This is a retrograde step. Some of the improve- SHAI P.A. SANGMA: Sir, I beg to move: ments are good and I have welcomed them. At any cost, the gratuity amount "That the Bill be Passed" must be paid within one month, and if it is not paid. they should be pro$9cuted; MR. DEPUTY SPEAKEA: The question action should be taken against them. is: Therefore, I request the hon. Minister at least to accept this amendment. "That the Bill be Passed" • SHRI P.A. SANGMA: It is precisely what The motion was adopted. 5&7 Cons. of For. SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) of Smugg. Activities 598 Exchange of Prevo (Admt). Bill 17.51 hra. the financers and the masterminds and their links and associates who cannot be CONSERVATION OF FOREIGN reached -under the normal law for want of EXCHANGE AND PR·EVENTION OF evidence strong enough to stand the SMUGGLING ACTIVITIES rigours· of the Evidence Act in a court of (AMENDMENn BILL law. Detention of such persons under this io [English) Act also enables the investigators to com- plete their in-depth investigations of all MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Balwant possible ramifications so as to bring to book large a number of persons Singh Ramoowalia is not present. So, we as involved as possible. take up Item No. 11. In particular, Section 9 of the Act deals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE with the detention of any person who is MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANAR- engaged in smuggling activities in areas DHANA POOJARy) : Sir, The Conservation highly vulnerable to smuggling. Such of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of areas have been indicated in the Section Smuggling Activities Act, 1974, provides itself. Under the proviSions of this Section, for preventive detention of persons in cer- detentions made for activities perpetrated tain cases for the purposes of conservation in such areas can be up to a maximum and augmentation of foreign exchange period of 2 years, as ag,inst the ordinary and for prevention of smuggling activities. period of one year otherwise, if a declara- tion is made under this Section. This Sec- The Government has already tion, however, applie~ only in respect of announced their firm resolve to effectively detention orders made before the 31st of deal with the smugglers and other eco- July, 1987, which has been extended for a nomic offenders including the fore'ign further period of three years beyond 31st exchange racketeers. While stringent mea- July, 1987 under the Conservation of For- sures continue to be taken under the nor- eign Exchange and Prevention of Smug- mal laws, preventive detention of gling Activities (Amendment). Ordinance, smugglers and foreign exchange racket- 1987, promulgated by the President on the eers may become necessary in certain 2nd July, 1987.. This Bill seeks to replace types of cases with a view to immoblising the Ordinance. their organised gangs from continuing their activities and to providing a deterrent That the COFEPOSA Act and particu- to those who are habitual offenders. We larly its Section 9 have been effectively have empliaasised. time and again. to the invoked and they have significantly sup- State Governments who are also the plemented the efforts of the anti- detaining authorities under the COFE- smuggling and enforcement wings of the POSA Act, that prEWentive detention Ministry of Finance find full corroboration should not be treated as an alternative or from the following data. The smuggled substitute for action under the normal law goods for the year 1984 for the whole of and that the enforcement authorities country the seizure was 101.«IJcrores. For should reinforce their intelligence set-up vulnerable areas. it was 92.53 crores of in order to launch prosecutions against the 101.09 crores. The percentage for the smugglers and foreign exchange racket- vulnerable area was 52%. In the year 1985. eers in the ordinary course of law. 195.63 crore~ was the seizure. As. 152.03 out of that was for vulnerable areas. In 1986 The COFEPOSA Act, 1974, is thus one the seizure was again 216.99 crores ,of of the powerful weapons for disrupting rupees. It has gone up from Rs. 101.09 organised activities of smugglers and for- crcl(8s in 1984 to Rs. 216.99croresin 1986 eign exchange racketeers, effectively put- and here for the vulnerable areas the c0n- ting ·out of commission also the king-pins, tribution was Rs. 164.96 crores. In the year 599 COns. of For. AUGUST 6, 1987 of Smugg. Activities em· EItChange of Prev. (Admt). Bin [Shrt' Janardhana Poojary] Smuggling activities have greatly increased in the border areas these days. It go~ 1987, upto June 1987. the seizure has has become a major activity there. One of upto As. 109.26 crores. the main reasons behind it is that some vested interests are at work there and they The COFEPOSA detention in the year are being given protection by local people 1984 was 71d persons and in the year 1986 there. Several drugs like heroin, smack etc. the detention has gone upto 812 persons, are ,being smuggled into the country lIpto June 1987, we have detained so far through the border areas of Punjab, Rajas- 441 people. than and Gujarat. It has been observed that smuggling of gold and silver is being car- The results of the action taken under the , ried on mainly in the South. Our youth is COFEPOSA Act, as tabulated above, also being badly affected by the use of these bring out that but for this Act and particu- drugs. All your Border Security Force and larfy Section 9, the scale of smuggling other Police Force stationed at the border would have been much greater. Further, areas are in league with the smugglers. over 75% of the total seizures of contra- The smugglers may belong to Pakistan or band effected in the country are any other country but your forces are all in accounted for by the highly vulnerable collusion with them. It is for this reason areas. The detention for a period of two that smuggling activities are increasing years in respect of the smuggling activities constantly. As per the recent newspaper in-, from or through the highly vulnerable report, heroin and hashish worth As. 50 to areas acts as a strong deterrent. Hence the 60 crores were hauled in Jodhpur, Sarmer need for extending the provisions of Sec- and Jaiselmer districts of ,Rajasthan. tion 9 of the Act for a further period of three Those who are responsible for checking it years. are themselves in collusion with the smugglers. These people should be dealt With these words, I beg to move: with sternly, otherwise they will prove quite dangerous for the country. You can your- "That the Bill further to amend self assess this situation. the Conservation' of Foreign Exchange and Prevention of A close look at the situation will reveal Smuggling Activities Act, 1974, that the smugglers, ~hether in the border be taken into consideration." areas or in the big cities. are running a parallel Government of their own. They are MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion ,also beyond police control. Whatever they moved: want to do, they do it. The Police arrest one or two of them just to avoid getting a bad "That the Bill further to amend name. The people are also misled by them. the Conservation of Foreign Your security forces are not dOing any Exct1ange and Prevention of work. It is able to apprehend only one or Smuggling Activities Act. 1974 be two insignificant ,members of the smug- taken into consideration". gling racket sometimes and on the basis of that they show that they are doing very Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas. goad work. However, some genuine per- ~ns in the police force have made honest (Translation ) . efforts to apprehend smuggling gangs and take ac;tion against them but such people SHRI GIADHARI LAl VY AS (Bhilwara, : are not allowed to stay on. After some Mr. Deputy gp.ker, Sir, I rise to support three dr four month~, the smugglers com- the Con8erIation of Foreign Exchange ptain against-them and'they are'transferred and Pn!Nention of Smuggling Activities elsewhere. A~d In this manner the . (Amendment) Silt. smugglers are, able to continue with their . 601 . Cons. of For.. SRAVANA 15, 1909 (SAKA) " of Sumgg. Activities 602 Exchange of Pre. (AdmtJ. Bill unlawful activities. Therefore, the Gov~rn Member will continue his speech when we ment of India should make proper arrange- take up this item next. Now, the House ments in this regard. In addition to the stands adjourned to meet tomorrow at provisions made by the State Govern- 11 A.M. ments. the Central Government should make .ah-angem~nts to curb such activities as it is proving quite dangerous for the 18.01 hrs. country. Its ill-effects on our youths and students are not hidden from anybody. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven [English] of the Clock on Friday. August 7. 1987ISra- vana 16. 1909 (Saka) . MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The hon. Printed at: Akashdeep Printers. 20 Ansari Road. Darya Ganj, New OeIhi-110002.