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Legislative Hearing Committee on Resources U.S H.R. 2534, H.R. 4530 and H.R. 4822 LEGISLATIVE HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, RECREATION, AND PUBLIC LANDS OF THE COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION June 13, 2002 Serial No. 107-127 Printed for the use of the Committee on Resources ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/house or Committee address: http://resourcescommittee.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 80-171 PS WASHINGTON : 2002 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah, Chairman NICK J. RAHALL II, West Virginia, Ranking Democrat Member Don Young, Alaska, George Miller, California Vice Chairman Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts W.J. ‘‘Billy’’ Tauzin, Louisiana Dale E. Kildee, Michigan Jim Saxton, New Jersey Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon Elton Gallegly, California Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American Samoa John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii Joel Hefley, Colorado Solomon P. Ortiz, Texas Wayne T. Gilchrest, Maryland Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey Ken Calvert, California Calvin M. Dooley, California Scott McInnis, Colorado Robert A. Underwood, Guam Richard W. Pombo, California Adam Smith, Washington Barbara Cubin, Wyoming Donna M. Christensen, Virgin Islands George Radanovich, California Ron Kind, Wisconsin Walter B. Jones, Jr., North Carolina Jay Inslee, Washington Mac Thornberry, Texas Grace F. Napolitano, California Chris Cannon, Utah Tom Udall, New Mexico John E. Peterson, Pennsylvania Mark Udall, Colorado Bob Schaffer, Colorado Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Jim Gibbons, Nevada Anibal Acevedo-Vila, Puerto Rico Mark E. Souder, Indiana Hilda L. Solis, California Greg Walden, Oregon Brad Carson, Oklahoma Michael K. Simpson, Idaho Betty McCollum, Minnesota Thomas G. Tancredo, Colorado J.D. Hayworth, Arizona C.L. ‘‘Butch’’ Otter, Idaho Tom Osborne, Nebraska Jeff Flake, Arizona Dennis R. Rehberg, Montana Tim Stewart, Chief of Staff Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel/Deputy Chief of Staff Steven T. Petersen, Deputy Chief Counsel Michael S. Twinchek, Chief Clerk James H. Zoia, Democrat Staff Director Jeffrey P. Petrich, Democrat Chief Counsel (II) VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS, RECREATION, AND PUBLIC LANDS GEORGE P. RADANOVICH, California, Chairman DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, Virgin Islands Ranking Democrat Member Elton Gallegly, California Dale E. Kildee, Michigan John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American Samoa Joel Hefley, Colorado Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey Wayne T. Gilchrest, Maryland Tom Udall, New Mexico Walter B. Jones, Jr., North Carolina, Mark Udall, Colorado Vice Chairman Rush D. Holt, New Jersey Mac Thornberry, Texas Anibal Acevedo-Vila, Puerto Rico Chris Cannon, Utah Hilda L. Solis, California Bob Schaffer, Colorado Betty McCollum, Minnesota Jim Gibbons, Nevada Mark E. Souder, Indiana Michael K. Simpson, Idaho Thomas G. Tancredo, Colorado (III) VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 CONTENTS Page Hearing held on June 13, 2002 ............................................................................... 1 Statement of Members: Christensen, Hon. Donna M., a Delegate in Congress from the Virgin Islands ............................................................................................................ 9 Radanovich, Hon. George P., a Representative in Congress from the State of California ................................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement on H.R. 2534, H.R. 4530 and H.R. 4822 ............. 2 Rehberg, Hon. Dennis, a Representative in Congress from the State of Montana ......................................................................................................... 14 Prepared statement on H.R. 4822 ........................................................... 16 Solis, Hon. Hilda L., a Representative in Congress from the State of California ....................................................................................................... 10 Prepared statement on H.R. 2534 ........................................................... 13 Taylor, Hon. Charles, a Representative in Congress from the State of North Carolina .............................................................................................. 17 Prepared statement on H.R. 4530 ........................................................... 18 Statement of Witnesses: Anderson, Becky, Executive Director, HandMade In America, Asheville, North Carolina .............................................................................................. 53 Prepared statement on H.R. 4530 ........................................................... 55 Blakely, Hon. Lara Larramendi, Mayor, City of Monrovia, California ........ 64 Prepared statement on H.R. 2534 ........................................................... 65 Huskins, Betty R., Vice President, Public Affairs and Corporate Development, AdvantageWest-North Carolina, Fletcher, North Carolina ......................................................................................................... 62 Prepared statement on H.R. 4530 ........................................................... 63 Morrison, Patricia, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management, Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Department of the Interior, Washington, D.C. ........................................................................... 19 Prepared statement on H.R. 4822 ........................................................... 21 Pilcher, Steven L., Executive Vice President, Montana Stockgrowers Association, Helena, Montana ..................................................................... 50 Prepared statement on H.R. 4822 ........................................................... 51 Ruiz, Joseph R. ‘‘Rick’’, Governing Board Member, San Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles Rivers and Mountains Conservancy, Santa Monica, California ....................................................................................................... 34 Prepared statement on H.R. 2534 ........................................................... 35 Stevenson, Katherine, Associate Director of Cultural Resource Stewardship and Partnerships, National Park Service, U.S. Department of the Interior, Washington, D.C. ........................................... 23 Prepared statement on H.R. 2534 ........................................................... 24 Prepared statement on H.R. 4530 ........................................................... 25 Tureck, Hugo, Vice-Chairman, Friends of the Missouri Breaks Monument, Coffee Creek, Montana ............................................................. 36 Prepared statement on H.R. 4822 ........................................................... 37 Additional materials supplied: Billings Gazette article ‘‘Rehberg Bill Seeks To Aid Ranchers in Breaks’’ submitted for the record ............................................................................... 8 Great Falls Tribune article ‘‘Bold lines should be drawn inside the Breaks’’ submitted for the record ................................................................ 7 Map of the Upper Missouri River Breaks National Monument ................... 5 Seilstad, Carl, et al., Letter to Hon. Dennis Rehberg submitted for the record ............................................................................................................. 6 (V) VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 10:13 Apr 07, 2003 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 80171.TXT HRESOUR1 PsN: HRESOUR1 LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON H.R. 2534, TO AUTHORIZE THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR TO CONDUCT A SPECIAL RESOURCE STUDY OF THE LOWER LOS ANGELES RIVER AND SAN GABRIEL RIVER WATERSHEDS IN THE STATE OF CALI- FORNIA, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES; H.R. 4530, TO DIRECT THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR TO CONDUCT A STUDY OF THE SUITABILITY AND FEASIBILITY OF ES- TABLISHING THE BLUE RIDGE HERITAGE AND CULTURAL PARTNERSHIP STUDY AREA IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES; AND H.R. 4822, TO CLARIFY THAT THE UPPER MISSOURI RIVER BREAKS NATIONAL MONUMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE WITHIN ITS BOUNDARIES ANY PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. Thursday, June 13, 2002 U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation, and Public Lands Committee on Resources Washington, DC The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:02 a.m., in room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. George P. Radanovich [Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding. STATEMENT OF HON. GEORGE P. RADANOVICH, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA Mr. RADANOVICH. Good morning. The Subcommittee on National Parks, Recreation, and Public Lands will come to order. The Sub- committee will hear testimony on H.R. 2534, H.R. 4530, and H.R. 4822. (1) VerDate
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