July 13, 2000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD Ð SENATE S6591 it also repeals the estate tax for huge The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without [Rollcall Vote No. 177 Leg.] estatesÐ$100 million estates, $1 billion objection, it is so ordered. YEASÐ81 estates, $5 billion estates. It totally re- Mr. REID. The first vote will be 15 Abraham Dodd Lugar peals any tax whatsoever on estates of minutes and thereafter 10 minutes. We Akaka Domenici Mack that size. agree. Allard Edwards McCain Ashcroft Enzi McConnell Yesterday, I spoke in opposition to The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without Baucus Feinstein Moynihan the House bill, and Senators THOMAS objection, it is so ordered. Bayh Fitzgerald Murkowski and INHOFE expressed a little surprise. The clerk will report. Bennett Frist Nickles They said when they talk to ordinary The assistant legislative clerk read Biden Gorton Reed Bingaman Graham Robb folks in their home States, they hear a as follows: Bond Gramm Roberts lot about the estate tax, and people A bill (S. 2549) to authorize appropriations Breaux Grams Roth want reform. They wondered whether I for fiscal year 2001 for military activities of Brownback Gregg Santorum the Department of Defense, for military con- Bryan Hagel Sarbanes was hearing the same in my State of Bunning Hatch Schumer Montana. I sure am, all the timeÐin struction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe per- Burns Helms Sessions coffee shops, in grocery stores, lots of Byrd Hollings Shelby sonnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Campbell Hutchinson Smith (NH) people talk to me. They think it hits Armed Forces, and for other purposes. too hard on farms, ranches, and small Chafee, L. Hutchison Smith (OR) Pending: Cleland Inhofe Snowe businesses. That is precisely the point. Cochran Inouye Specter The House bill responds to these with Feingold pending amendment No. 3759, to Collins Kennedy Stevens terminate production under the D5 sub- an abstractionÐrepeal, 10 years from Conrad Kerry Thomas marine-launched ballistic missile program. Coverdell Kyl Thompson now. Durbin Amendment No. 3732, to provide for Craig Landrieu Thurmond The Democratic alternative says, no, operationally realistic testing of National Crapo Levin Torricelli we are not going to wait 10 years; we Missile Defense systems against counter- Daschle Lieberman Voinovich are going to do it now. We respond with measures; and to establish an independent DeWine Lott Warner honest-to-goodness relief. I am sure panel to review the testing. NAYSÐ18 there is somebody in Montana with an The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen- Boxer Jeffords Lincoln estate worth more than $8 million who ator from Virginia. Dorgan Johnson Murray will still have to pay some estate tax Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, it is my Durbin Kerrey Reid Feingold Kohl Rockefeller under the Democratic alternative. But understanding that under the order we Grassley Lautenberg Wellstone there sure aren't many of them. will now proceed to two votes. I rec- Harkin Leahy Wyden Remember, the vast majority of the ommend to the Senate that we proceed NOT VOTINGÐ1 estates are either not affected by the to the Feingold vote first. Mikulski tax now or, if they are, would be com- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen- pletely exempt under the Democratic ator is correct. The motion was agreed to. alternative. One other virtue of the Mr. WARNER. Second, to the vote on Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I move Democratic alternative is it costs the amendment of the distinguished to reconsider the vote. Mr. MOYNIHAN. I move to lay that much less than the House bill, $40 bil- Senator from Illinois. lion less over 10 years. After that, the At this time, I believe we have 2 min- motion on the table. The motion to lay on the table was savings are even greater. utes for those in opposition. But in def- agreed to. As a result, the Democratic alter- erence to the proponents, we are will- native allows us not only to reform the ing to hear from the proponents first. AMENDMENT NO. 3732 estate tax in a way that helps where it They are not going to use it. Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, under is needed the most, but it also allows Then I yield 2 minutes to the distin- the previous order, we will now proceed us to address other priorities that, guished chairman of the Subcommittee to the amendment by the Senator from frankly, are more important than total on Strategic Forces. Illinois. At such time as he concludes repeal of the estate tax, particularly The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen- his portion of the 2 minutes, I yield my for huge estates. ator from Colorado. time to the senior Senator from Mis- For example, what about the na- Mr. ALLARD. Mr. President, the sissippi, Mr. COCHRAN. tional debt? The Democratic alter- Feingold amendment would undermine The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. native leaves an additional $40 billion the U.S. sea-based deterrent force by BUNNING). The Senator from Illinois. available to pay down the national killing the Trident D±5 missile pro- The time is 2 minutes, equally divided. debt. Or we could use the savings to gram. Such a decision would cut the The Senator from Illinois is recog- provide tax cuts to meet other impor- Navy's requirement short by 53 mis- nized. tant needs; help average families save siles resulting in the deployment of Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, can I for retirement or their kids' college three fewer submarines that DOD cur- have order in the Chamber? The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen- education, or help people meet long- rently believes are required. term medical care costs; protect Social I move to table the amendment. ate will come to order. Security and Medicare. I ask for the yeas and nays. Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, this Believe me, these are good things The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a amendment which we offer is one that that we hear about at home all the sufficient second? was debated last night on the floor of time. I believe that more people are There is a sufficient second. the Senate. It is very straightforward. more concerned about these matters The question is on agreeing to the If we are to go forward with a national than they are about total repeal of the motion. The clerk will call the roll. missile defense system, we should have estate tax, particularly for large es- Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, will the honest, realistic testing, including tates. Chair kindly tap the gavel a little bit testing for countermeasures so we can f to clear the well? say to the American people: Your The PRESIDING OFFICER. Senators money is being well spent; so we can NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZA- will clear the well. The Senate will be say to them: If this is a source of secu- TION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR in order. The clerk will not proceed rity and defense for America, it is one 2001ÐResumed until Senators clear the well. that will work and function. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, I thank Some have looked at my amendment the previous order, the time has ar- the Chair. and said it must be critical of the sys- rived to proceed to the next order of The assistant legislative clerk called tem because DURBIN has questioned the business. the roll. system in the past. I presented, during The Senator from Delaware. Mr. REID. I announce that the Sen- the course of the debate last night, a Mr. ROTH. Mr. President, I ask unan- ator from Maryland (Ms. MIKULSKI) is letter from the Director of Testing and imous consent that the next votes in necessarily absent. Evaluation in the Department of De- the series be limited to 10 minutes The result was announcedÐyeas 81, fense, Mr. Philip Coyle, in which he each. nays 18, as follows: writes to me and says: VerDate 11-MAY-2000 00:42 Jul 14, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 4624 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\G13JY6.010 pfrm01 PsN: S13PT1 S6592 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD Ð SENATE July 13, 2000 This letter is to support your effort to re- Missle defense deployment requires A missile defense system that under- inforce the need for realistic testing of the enormous public commitmentÐnot un- mines our Nation politically, economi- National Missile Defense System. like our effort to put a man on the cally, and strategicallyÐwithout It is very clear to the Pentagon, as it Moon. strengthening our defenseÐis no de- is to those who listened to the debate While success can never be guaran- fense at all. last night, that this is not a friendly teed, American people have a right to The American people have a right to amendment nor an amendment that know that success is possibleÐbefore know thatÐif we deploy a national sets out to end the national missile de- we commit $60 billion, or more, to it. missile defense systemÐit will work. fense system. This is an amendment The President must have confidence The Durban amendment will take a big which asks for the facts and asks for the system will work. Also, critically step toward providing them with that the reality. I hope Senators will sup- important, our adversaries must know assurance. We should adopt it. port it. a national defense system will work. Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, 50 Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I come A deterrent is not effective if en- Nobel laureates signed an open letter to the floor this morning to voice my emies can be confident it may not, or to President Clinton on July 6, 2000, support for perhaps the most impor- will not, work.