Lsd 06 03 06-12-1977.Pdf

VII 15 Tuesday, December 6, 1977 Agrahanaya 15, 1899 (Saka)

ThirdF)3=>7;9F

VII 1

!% F*F*&+&,F $-F! F CONTENTS No. 15, Tuesday, December 6, igrp/Agrahayana 15,1899 (Saha)

T>ral Answers to Questions : C o l u m n s

♦Starred Questions Nos. 285,286,288 to 290,295 and 296 . 1— 30

Short Notice Question No. 4 30— 36

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 2£7,29110294 29710 304. . 36—47

Unstarred Questions Nos. 2669 to 2810 and 2812 to 2867 47— 260

Papers Laid on the Table 260— 64

Message from Rajya Sabha . 265

Re. Matters under Rule 377 . . . . 265-66

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance—

Reported explosion in the Heavy Water Plant in Baroda 266— 75

Shri Anant Dave 266-67, 268 Shri Morarji Desai . . 267-68,270, 272-73,274—75 Shri Saugata Roy . 268— 70

Shri G. M . Banatwala 270-71

Shri Vayalar Ravi 273-74

Announcement re. Calling Attention Notices . . 275— 78

Public Accounts Committee—

Thirty-fifth Report . 278

Statement re. Restructuring of Oil and Natural Gas Commission—

Shri H. N. Bahuguna 279— 81

Statement re. Restructuring of Railway Board—

Prof. Madhu Dandavate . . 281— 84

♦The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. Co lu mn s Matters under Rule 377— (i) Reported failure of Karnataka Government to maintain law and order in the S t a t e ...... 285— 88 (ii) Appointment of a Judicial Commission by U . P. Government to inquire into riots in V a r a n a s i ...... 288— 89 (iii) Publication of Books on Pandit Nehru and Mahatma Gandhi and attempts at denigrating the leaders...... 290— 301

Payment of Bonus (Amendment) Bill— Motion to c o n s i d e r ...... 301— 307 Shri Brij Bhushan Tiwari .... 301— 304 Shri Saugata R o y ...... 305— 307

Motions re. Recent Cyclones and Floods in the Southern States— W i t h d r a w a l ...... 307—406

Shri Chitta Basu . . . 307— 13

Shri P. K . Kodiyan . . 315— 18

Dr. Karan Singh .... 319— 26

Shri Vijay Kumar Malhotra . . . . 326— 32

Shri K . Suryanarayana 332— 39

Shri Sarat Kar . . . . 339— 40

Shri V. Arunachalam . 341— 46 1 Shri R. Venkataraman...... 346—51

Shri Ganga Singh...... 352— 54

Shri M . Kalyanasundaram .... 354—59

Dr. Henry Austin ...... 359— 66

Shrimati Ahilya P. Rangnekar „ 366— 71

Shri P. M. Sayeed...... 371—76

Shri K. Raghu Ramaiah...... 376—79

Shri Kumari Ananthan . 379— 81

Shri C. Subramaniam . . 3®1—*5

Shri Nageswara Rao Meduri 385— 87

Shri C. N . Visvanathan . . 3*7— 89

Shri N. Kudanthai Ramalingam 3*9— 92

Shri Surjit Singh Bamala 392— 403 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA *fk *rk snfcft 3r sWf 3r fe^ ^rftr i Tuesday9 December 6, 1977/Agra- hayana 15, 1899 (Saka) )NGC Survey in the off shore Region of Kerala + 4The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock ♦285. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: [Mr. Speaker in the Chfi,ir] Will the Minister of PETROLEUM ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to state: h ih 5^ •* szniprr (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas Commission has made any survey in the off shore region of Kerala to ^ i i2^r i find out oil deposits; and Tnnft hut : frrr (b) if so, the results thereof? ®f>i ^ ^ ft* ^ THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM SR9fT ^ 'jft 3RR AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): h ( ht =5rr%T i ifn Rrifisd w 41«m sre % ^ *ft 3r s iw also been carried out. Preliminary in- ^ I ^TP-TT *idM4 *ft % Ru1. terpretation of seismic data collected ^ftrfeT t ^ ^ ^ SFT 742 ^rT off Kasargod has just been completed. s r tc *r ?rraT fip^t *t ^ SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: I want to know from the Hon. Minister whether srrm i w t % zr^t % he is in a position to indicate the *ft urm t i s r fernr ^r *r | i . SHRI II. N. BAHUGUNA: Sir, all I said was that the Government by due MR, SPEAKER: Will you have one processes have prima facie come to the more? This is what he is asking. conclusion that there could be location- al facilities available for drilling if at SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: No, ‘ He any time the final view on the seismic asked whether we wpuld be abl$ to survey was to that effect. It is true purchase one more. We will not have that this particular enquiry goes one more ship; that i& not needed: But way back to 1963-64 but in the ques- we have easily ship6 available which tion of search for oil, Kerala West can be chartered and do the job for Coast has been given a privileged us. We propose to charter one ship. treatment. Sir, in-between a German ONGC does not propose to acquire expert came who rejected the possi- any more. Presently there is no more bility of any oil either in the continental immediate possibility of such a ship shelf or in the inland areas. Moreover being purchased by ONGC. the Government intention is not to drag its feet but be dragged with the SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: Sir, emotion and possibility that Kerala in the Kaveri delta areas of Tamil coast perhaps has and, therefore, we Nadu a seismic survey had been con- are charter-hiring a ship to do deep ducted by the ONGC in 1973-74. They seismic work. In between it does not had also made a number of drillings mean that a day has been lost. A num- there. What is the result of these sur- ber of attempts have been made. But veys and drillings in those areas? Whe- till now no absolute reply has come ther the Government has taken any from the data available. Therefore, steps to undertake further drilling, in one more effort is being made by char- those areas? ter hiring seismic survey ship to find out whether further work using this SHRI H. N. > BAHUGUNA: Though location for drilling and other things the question is not dijectly related to are at all necessary and possible. the present question, 1 would say that 5 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 the result is so far nil. But we have (ix) To keep a careful watch on not lost hope. We are proposing that the quality of production and this particular chartered hired ship prevent adulteration and mal- will also do seismic surveys in the practices. Kaveri area.

New Drug Policy SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: Sir, regarding the new policy based on + Hathi Commission recommendations, *286. SHRI C K. CHANDRAPPAN: I would like to know from the hon. SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN NAIR: Minister what are the concrete steps the hon. Minister and the Government WUl the Minister of PETROLEUM have taken to achieve self sufficiency AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- in drug supply. ZERS be pleased to state: SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: Sir I will (a) whether Government are considering a proposal for evolving a new have to give a little background on the question about Hathi Commission’s re- drug policy; and commendations. The predecessor Gov- (b) if so, what are its salient fea- ernment appointed this, Committee by tures and objectives thereof? a resolution dated 8th February, 1974. The report of the Commission came to THE MINISTER. OF PETROLEUM the Government on 7th April, 1975. It AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- was kept in cold storage till we came ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): to power in 1977. On 30th of April, (a) and (b). Based on the recommen- 1977 when I assumed charge of this dations of the Hathi Committee a new Ministry from that date onwards we drug policy is being formulated. The have been engaged on this. I had to broad principles and objectives which go into the whole question myself, it Government will have to keep in view took sometime. Obviously, I have to in formulating the new policy are as study, read and aU that and then I follows: — consulted all the industrialists, manu- (i) To ensure that the drugs are facturers, the distributors, chemists available in abundance in the ana Druggists, the Indian Medical country to meet the health Association, Even the international needs of our people; drug manufacturers’ representatives

my diary and you will see that from any action been contemplated against the first day till today we have not them under the Foreign Exchange Re- lost any time and the minimum time gulation Act? If not, why not? needed lor examining the whole question is being taken and it is going before the Cabinet which alone can SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: This decide whether generic names will particular aspect is being handled by prevail or brand names will prevail. my colleague the hon. Finance Minis- ter; he is the person responsible for So far as the question of profiteer- implementation of FERA. About the ing is concerned, it is not correct to drug industry I can say that the whole say that every particular drug marke- question of implementation of FERA ted has a profit margin of 300 to 400 has been pending because of the fact per cent. It is true that exorbitant that the Hathi Committee recom- profits are there in some cases and mendations will by and large deter- in others, it is not so. All that is mine the future of these particular also connected with the pricing policy companies. Therefore FERA and its which again is a part of the Hathi implementation will be subject to that. Committee recommendations on which, as I said earlier, the government will SHRI VASANT SATHE: One of the have to come to a decision. basic and major recommendations of the Hathi Committee was that exploi- DR. V AS ANT KUMAR PANDIT: tation which had been going on all Will the hon. Minister please explain these years was mainly because the this point. It is now more than three multi-nationals refused to produce the years that the Hathi Committee has basic drug and only in the formula- given its report and it is the policy tions they exploit it. Not only in the of the new Government to encourage formulations of medicines but also the ayurvedic drugs. The main handicap so called tonics and non-priority an4l in the development of Ayurvedic drugs non-essential items which -go not com# is the absence of a pharmacopoeia on under the category of drugs vre then* Ayurveda and standardisation of and profits are made by advertisement these drugs. Will the Govt, encourage of those items. That is why there was this as it is a big sort of work which a unanimous recommendation to take only the Govt, can do. over and nationalise those foreign companies in the drug industry and give MR. SPEAKHR: Let us confine our- priority to (a) the public sector and selves to the main question. (b) the national sector, if at all, under the control of a national drug DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDIT: As authority. far as the multinationals are concerned, there are some companies like MR. SPEAKER: Now, shall we come Lever Brothers who plough back much to the question? of their profit for research in finding out indigenous basis for import substi- tution drugs. Will the Government SHRI VASANT SATHE: What is the force such a policy on the other four attitude of the government to these multinationals? two positive recommendations?

MR. SPEAKER: He will consider SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: About the that. specific recommendations erf the Hathi Committee to which the hon. Member SHRI YASHWANT BOROLE: Under has made a reference, our attitude is FERA some companies were asked to one of acting in the positive interest liquidate their foreign holdings to the of the nation___ extent of forty per cent. How many companies have liquidated their equity MR* SPEAKER: That is too broad holdings to that extent?. If not, has an answer. 11 Oral Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Oral Answers

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: I have not concluded; all I can say now is that I am not in a position to announce a judgement on these things. As I said 11 f 3ft earlier this government___

SHRI VASANT SATHE: Let us know I sffa I I your attitude; you are progressive. SHRI PURNA SINHA: It is stated SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: Mr. Sathe that Naphtha is the main product ft was very progressive. But with all Bongaigaon Refinery and Petro-che- his progressivism of which I am also micals Ltd. and Gauhati Refinery. a witness, he could not pursuade, the This Naphtha is necessary lor the pto- outgoing Government to take this there producing a number of down- particular recommendation out of the stream industries. I want to know shelf for two good years and he is whether the Naphtha produced at not willing to give me even a month’s Bongaigaon and Gauhati Refineries is time. All I say is that I am complete- being utilised for this purpose. ly with him to see that multi-nationals do not block this country in any man- SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: The total ner whatsoever. I am one with him Naphtha available in Gauhati and on that. Bongaigaon Refineries is not equal to the need of the economic size of Naphtha Cracker. Secondly, even for Naptha Cracker Unit in BRPL an aromatic plant which is being put *288. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: there producing a number of down- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM stream units we have to bring Gauhati AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS naphtha to Bongaigaon. Bongaigaon be pleased to state: and Gauhati Naphtha together have given us a possibility of putting up an (a) whether Naptha Cracker Unit in aromatic plant which has already Bbngaigaon Refinery and Petro- been decided to be put up there and chemicals Limited Was been rejected; work is going on. The various1 things and will come latest by 1979. (b) if so, the reasons therefor? SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- VEDI: Naphtha is the basic ingredient THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM of chemical fertilizers. I want to AND CHEMICALS AND FERTI- know to what extent it is utilised. LIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). There has been no pro- SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: Naphtha posal for setting up a Naphtha Crac- is also used for producing fertilizers ker unit under the Bongaigaon Re- and to the extent it is available today finery and Petro-chemicals l imited. we are using Naphtha as feedstuff for fertilizer industry also. fV R : J jfe Providing Diesel Engines t» Trains fq'lfc r % fat* W TOT | ? running In Sam ahtn

*289. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: ft? vicMKH o t r t t % fft Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

JTT3T t vTWW f[t I (a) whether Government propose to use the diesel engines and also to speed up the several trains running in the entire railway net-work of

(b) if 90, when and how; and Vaishali Express between Gorakhpur and Lucknow; Delhi-Jodhpur Mails; (c) if not, reasons therefor? Delhi-Jaipur Pink City Express; Miraj- Bangalore Mahalaxmi Express; Mad- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ras-Egmore-Madurai Vaigai Express; (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) Gauhati-Lucknow Express between to (cK Having regard to limited availa- Lucknow and Gorakhpur, and Siligurl- bility of Metre Gauge diesel locomo- Gauhati; and Kanpur-Barauni Express tives, it is not proposed to dieselise between Lucknow* and Gorakhpur. any passenger train in Saurashtra area. From 1-10-1977, 13 passenger These are the regions and the areas carrying trains were speeded up by 15 and trains for which the present loco- to 50 minutes. motives have been utilized.

PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: While PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: I am I congratulate the Minister for giving glad he gave these details. It only a very brief reply, I am sorry to say strengthens my request, suggestion that it is a very distressing reply be- and argument. When he has given cause for several years in the past dieeelised locomotives to metre gauges this problem has been coming up be- where the passenger traffic is quite fore the Railway Minister or whoever heavy, does he not know that in Sau- il is again and again, and several of rashtra region also. the passenger us have been asking successive Rail- traffic is very heavy? That is why way Ministers about the question of there is the further fact and my dieseliging and speeding up trains in second question that such a journey on Saurashtra. In view of all this, may so wide a network of trains takes an 1 ask him specifically when he says inordinately long time; some time* limited availability of Metre Gauge even hours together for a very short diesel locomotives”, what is the num- distance of 30 to 40 Kms. That is why ber of Meter Gauge diesel engines or people have to travel either by cars locomotives at present in India, and or buses. There are. of course, the in which regions are they uted, and helicopters but only Ministers and why Saurashtra region which has a Government leaders can go by the wide network of so many railway con- helicopters. We cannot do it. So, my nections is completely neglected to this question is how can people go uy ^ a te ? these slow trains, when they have t8 go every day, not in hundreds but in PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 1 hundreds of thousands over a period was brief and precise because I wanted ot months and years? That is why to leave some material for supple- in view of his answer to part (b) of mentaries also. the question. I have to ask this. My friend says that passenger trains have As far as 1976-77 performance is been speeded up by 15 to 50 minutes. , concerned, there were 13 Metre Gauge But he does not tell us how does it. diesel locomotives. I say 10 plus 3, be- really cut out the inordinate delays cause 10 are for indigenous consump- and longer duration hours of railway tion and utilization, and 3 for expor*- journeys in Saurashtra area where, During 1977-78 the position is that without ordinary amenities like drink- there are 22 metre gauge diesel loco- ing water, tea, biscuits etc. we have motives—14 for utilization in the to travel for hours together in the country and 8 for export. He asked, trains? Why not give attention to this L in pairt (d) of the question; out of all and speed up the trains? these locomotives that are available, I how many are made available for other PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I .. lines. If he is interested, I can give will reply to the hon. Member’s ques- I the names of the 8 lines. They are: tion part by part. As far as the density I Gauhati-Silchar Barak Valley Express; of traffic is concerned, as the hon. 15 Oral Ansvjcr.i DECEMBER 6, 1977 Oral Answers 16

Member is aware, the density of traffic what we have decided is, if the con- in respect of 23-24 Somnath Express ditions of the metre-gauge track are and 35-36 Mehsana-Porbandar Kirti not favourable for dieselisation being Express, the density of traffic is this. introduced we would like to convert All the statistics indicate that as far them into broad-gauge. We have art- as the first train is concerned; in spite ready decided on work for conversion of there being 17 or 16 bogies, the of Parawal-Okha-Porbandar line into occupancy ratio is between 44 per cent broad-gauge and the work is in pro- and 82 per cent; and in the case of gress. It is expected to be completed Kirti Express, it is between 32 and by March 1981; subject to availability 135 per cent. of funds, it will be our best effort to see that the work Is expedited. Once Now about the speed. When the it is converted into broad-gauge, we diesel engine is to be introduced, es- can have dieselisation and we can in- pecially on the metre gauge track, it crease the speed without any danger is very necessary that the track satis- to the safety of the track—Sir, please fies certain conditions so that it can record that he is satisfied. take up a certain load. Our investigations regarding the relative load that STfMV iTTf : i -41^11 have the u$ual speed, it will be dan- t o gerous. Therefore, if the diesel loco- 1971

f far 5fr tTCsff+Sltf ^ q - | dtl clcrtn ff^frf ^T ^t ’H^l 5fW r^rTft|^ i wm30f5rK|i % €r *m w\ W if SflNr % 1 9 7 7 % f t ’ST 3 ^ I f5TR *r*r ♦'I f<*l^

«fV p f : inrifhr t o V ^ft ^ 496 gas connections were released f% tt^t ^ft ^ft ^ t ^rft ^ t ^ ir by the Indian Oil Corporation on ^t t jff ^r^t?ftr priority against authorisations given by the Ministry of Petroleum. ^ ftrf%w ^ft ^rft | ?rt f ^ % ^ ^fFFTT -^1^11 f% TOT cRT ^ A *r a rc ^rrf^r ifterT | fa fe rt? *fk ^ r Jf ^ tft ^ft ^t q^HK ?rfe» ?rft w zni *t 3J5T VrK I I rfr *F+TT W f t tl'tidT cf^- 5TTT ^ fr % w ar sp>T *r ^ st *^t | ^Tft ?ft fh^r ^n: m \*a <* ftw % *fWt forts' *re£t 5TFT % v f t i ^ | ? 3PF^T ^ft ^ T ^ t t H- w j % Pro; TOT 5TTT ^r wWt^ ? «ft fw c ft *g*TOT : 3Rr cT^F

fT f ^r t fernc st t ipt t f *r fe*rr§- ^r?rr m «ft 5 5T^T | i tr^r fT ^TT 1% T^Ff ^ft^ft ^ t ^ f t ^ i f[, ft *ft ft 3 t 3?fift ^ 3TT 3TPT 5TWT WT? 3|fr ^ T f^TTT sFtf5T5T ®PT T f f[ I *T*TC 3Tfff>T tTTR ^9T5T I I ^ t% 1 rlTW 30 ^ t P«h‘ tilH if ^ft *Tfff f%m 3it ^ a r r i *Tf ^ft sr*ft ^ 3ft 3ft ^ r ^ft+T< ftr % # fRfT^: im | i ^j^RFT ^I^bCI ^TT ^hd ^ t t ^ 5TT5T ^ % < ft ^ ^THt 3ft ^«T«RFT f ^ *ltr |f ^ *T "T5 m 3TJ% ^ fe^ft if tT^: iNr «n*i*WH ^ Trf%*Tffi£ % TO T «TTTr f 3ft % — ( * w w i )-— ^ 7 ^ $ % *ft *nr mfwx | s fk 3ft T ft t % ?r v t ^ r r # % * r *ify+Tft f i^w>< ft 3mr | ^oin^ | fv ^ ^ ^r ^ft ft 40 0 i €t w & ft*m *ft% % ^ 5 f ^ R 5TTJE Z* far TT ?TPT fiRf% ^ ^ f F T ^ ? ^ | I 5pr 3 f3TR ^ 9 F f fJT fcfftT zrf ^rr rr^r ff^ rr | i ^ | I 5HR(f ^r^xTT Sfk ^npct ^ t *ft *rnr ^ ft ^ i ft^ft ff 'MHhVm ^Tcft 3ft ®fft *ft *T|5T Wt *TT*T ^ t f*T *nff qr t | «icHHT ^ T f3T g 1% fo^ t ^ TO

^T ^Nf f^»*ll^ ?TT ^Im^I d«i 4 5 vTPBT ^tCT m ^ r ^niT% % ftfXT ^ft ^TTT TOT if<4i

*T ^Tt fy|+T4d 5TFT % TRT ?TTf f SHHI R. K. MHALGI: May I know when the Bombay Gas would be WT ^ "3*T *TT 5TPT available? t | I ? SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: By the middle of 1979, it should be practi- «ft ^ f t n t : 3ft s m cable to bring out gas in the market.

s fT ^ r m^r 3ft % f e n | % sforcft WKfcfl : i t m Jr sfr f^riT ft% r | *T f i^rr 1%h i »i **r *r a w ^r?n i 1 3^t

3H?T ^T5T aft nfr f?rt^T f WTK i 1% 3J^t «lic1 ^T IfPT ^T 1% 6 ^T, ^

^ r r | ?rtT qHT f ^ R T | f t 10-15 wtit | 1 ti+ai ^ I ^h K i f^^RT ^ ^ f t ?n% ^7% w f ^r, ^ft ?n^r ^r^fer «ft srawr] I 10-15 rtiRr &C&T ^ ^TTTT 1 5 tFto^t‘ ^ftT ^ «ft 5»raeft »p3*t 10 ^FT^t I (»l-H SHRIMATI CHANDRAVATI: Sir, t I ^TT 3ft f ^RT ^TT I want a categoric and definite reply ^tpT |T % SRT fk^V % from the Minister. if 5ft fin^ ^t | I Chandravati but I can assure her that I ca?a only make a wish at this stage. My difficulty is with regard 4I<1 3ft 'S*t{i*t ^ fllff i> to the availability of LP

: 5fSTST ^ 'r ^ , jrar < ^vn ^TT ST^TRT ^JTT f r ^ ?rr^ ^ rsr k ?r*fr «rrrnr | ft? ftOT 'jI id I ^ ? f^^fr * i (^ ^P*T ’B 'f ^ 3# $ mOT* TT f ? f^ T ?rrarrr i^ ^ r ^ *r^t (V^i % fair tffa «rrfs*Tfintf % 'Sit ?r^rr |, fjRHt ftpfhrn for^rfr |, faft vtf fcw*pr fen 3n w ? i^rfr 3pt 7^t % ^<41■si "T^t ^ T^t | i $*«ft w i * j|T*n : 4 tm^fhr vt ^tl ^ ft* fT% Cancellation of Permission Letters rft gfcaR t, w f a lRliff *ftt ’i f t f 5T>«ff and No Objection Letters spf ^rr I t ^ ^ TTSTTOT * *295. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- flwr f f¥ srmWte f t nf |, ^ *r DHARY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS ^pf sftt vrrf^rfwt *fr "iT+'i AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to ^ ftr«t frsrator r«nrr state: | t smt ?f p fo r t tft (a) whether Hathi Committee has ^ t % 5f? wrr resorted to production of items cover ed under these letters, violating thr ^ tfw r %^3T I, 1^1 fe n letters were granted and if so, what action Government have taken/pro- ^Idl TT HJllflf < for ^H dl T^rfr pose to take to prevent such viola- | iftx % 3f*r T ft | i f?r for 5ft tions? 25 f)rzl Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Tt AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): vffaft % 5TPT 'dolW ? (a) to (c). A Statement is laid on the Table of the House. Statement % 3ft qr ^nr Pr t ^rr, (a) and (b). The majority view of ’Tft f^TT ^TT, %■ feWT?) ^FTrTT the Hathi Committee was that Per- % 361 fe n «l^l % \J5T mission Letters/No Objection Letters t ferr | 1 ^rff do not have any legal backing in terms of the provisions of the Indus- tries (Development and Regulation) Act. Four members of the Commit- «ft mxo : far tee, however, expressed their reser- rTT vidMi f t I vations on the above interpretation and, conclusion.

The legal opinion however Is.that OT^rcf HT5T r ftit 5RT% % 3T* % tfhr Permission Letters were issued subject to certain conditions. Most of these ^ f M s ? rRr i manufacture of drug formulations were more in the nature of clarifica- {W ill W 1 : W if tion that the applicant would require a licence if certain conditions were v r f*rtor %^r not satisfied. (c) It is more than two years since * p t iff w %, wt-ifkTT ^ the Hathi Committee recommenda- W A *II4'II, nJ»T T f W tions were available to Government but no action was taken to find out 5fT^ if fSpfa I , *RT % StK what was being done by concerned *r4^ltTl I % f ^ TTZ *T?T W T foreign companies to function with- | dr+M if !R5r ?ppt t I in the conditions of the Permission Letter extended to them. While keeping in mind the recom- Issue of Wax in Delhi mendations No. 13 and 14 of Chap- ter V of Hathi Committee Report in * 296. SHRI KANWAR LAL this regard, Government propose to GUPTA: Will the Minister of PET- make a full enquiry and prepare a ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND consolidated account of the position FERTILIZERS be pleased to lay a as obtaining, so as to decide on the statement showing: next course of action with regard to (a) the names and addresses of the wilful violations if any of the para- persons, firms and companies who* meters laid down in the said Letters have been issued quota of wax it> of Permission. Delhi during Emergency;

m f WTTO : 5TTT % (b) what are the findings of the (^r) % 14 «k iuu ^ inquiry conducted by Delhi Adminis- tration over this matter and wBat 1 * action has been taken by Government f far fiw vffaft % *TT thereon; 27 Oral Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Oral Answers 28

(c) the names and addresses of the expected to be furnished by the end persons, firms and companies to whom of this month. The Delhi Adminis- quota of wax have been allotted trom tration would take necessary action 1st April, 1977 to 31st October, 1977; for further streamlinging the distri- and bution of paraffin wax on receipt of the Report of the Enquiry Committee. (d) what action has been taken over the complaints received during the last six months about this matter? It has been reported by the Delhi Administration that no written com- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, plaints for investigation have been CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS received. (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): to (d). A statement is laid fffaT «rr I ?ft Another statement giving these details in respect of the new units ^ f t ^B^ff % 'TFR" who were issued Quotas of paraffin 5RIT ft*T ^ ftcRT fojT Wax during the period of the Emer- **rf fan w , wt t w i * * T^rOr gency is attached as Annexure II [Placed in Library. See No. LT- ? 1270/77]. (Interruptions) A further statement giving the names and addresses of persons, firms SHRI VAYALAR RAVI; The and companies who have been allot- name of the Member of the other ted new paraffin wax quotas from 1st House cannot be mentioned here is April, 1977 to 31st October, 1977 is a convention (Interruptions). That appended as Annexure III. [Placed in is UOt right. (Interruptions). Library. See No. LT-1270/77]. MR. SPEAKER: That is the diffi- (b) and (d). Au Enquiry Commit- culty that you asked for the name. tee comprising of officials of the Kindly do not refer to the Members Delhi Administration was constituted of the other House. in August, 1977 to enquire into irregularities, if any, in the allocation SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: So far of wax to allottees and evolve a new as the question regarding regular policy for wax distribution amongst allotment of wax is concerned, the various actual users under the juris- Delhi Administration had constituted diction of Delhi Administration. Hie an enquiry committee in August 1977 Report of the Enquiry Committee is and we are awaiting report of that .29 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

committee. Necessary action, as re- «ft vat ««t nqr: wt *i$fr trfRr commended by the Delhi Administra- ^riTnil fa ift ?r»wf ^to snr •tot : fa* fro *rr ^'1 *7n *rk ?mr s*r =tt*t t ? % farT WT *JTf^TT5^r ft?ft «ft *rdtr mts ; trg-o % ■g^T «

*rh#r vt siTTo ir^fo tt^o vr vt ^«T»TT : JITqiTt? ^dlMl *TT, r+ci'li «i>lei f^TT l4^TfJ ft<+K ^ W 'WCT ^ jpr^r ^Wt, w fft ^ # f»r >rtf aret ferr § fa ft??ft ^tm^t ^ 1 «w ^ SHORT NOTICE QUESTION ^ '4t3rTr ?;rtf ^ 1 (nnn) Ban on Export of Sait from MenM SWPRlf fS4Id^'dH to West Bencal and OrlsM §. snr faRTT *ftfjnr | + S.N.Q.4. SHRI M. KALYANA- SUNDARAM: nt f!fT «5fr »»^hPT 5S *RT TT fe(TT SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: *W ^fteT ?»T d}*i I r*Ti Will {he Minister of INDUSTRY * W % fr^TRf vr forr 1RTI pleased to state: =3ffc ?»T t ^ijflTSt ft iffcfr ^ (a) the reasons lor* banning export ft w^ flirr imsfar^ti of salt from Tuticorn area to West Bengal and Orissa by rail; W W W WI5 : WTTo tTJTo tiJfo (b) is it a fact that in spite of 1iie wt *ft falT ’PTT I I ban on movement of salt by rail, 27 (seventeen) block specials were allow- w wro >pr : wrr % fc»TT«r ed to carry salt to West Bengal; # *IK« ^€0 P*T<> ^TT f?TT iCMI (c) is it rlso a fact that certain mo- 4^ftt irppr ft r^r 11 nopoly importers of West Bengal are allowed special quota of salt to be mov- ^ ««!? mts : *T5Pf*TT »mft art ed by rail; ftR ?iWf ^ WTT« ^?To *£r» w (d) are the Government aware that small producers and thousands of salt- tfr ■zr*r ♦■mistt i due to the ban; and 31 Oral Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Oral Answers

(e) whether the Government will re- preventing smuggling into Bangla- consider the policy behind this ban so desh, this ban on movement by rail to htlp the small producers and work- was introduced. Is it a fact or not? ers? I want to ask whether this is the method by which Government is THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY thinking of preventing smijggling in- (SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES): (a) to Bangladesh. As a matter of fact, to (e). The ban on the movement of it is in the interest of some big salt salt by rail from Tuticorin area to traders in West Bengal to ban ex- West Bengal and Orissa was imposed ports officially but allow export in order to provide return cargo for through smuggling. So, it is in their the vessels which take coal from West interest that this ban on movement Bengal to destinations in South Coast. by rail was introduced. I want to However, to meet the temporary appeal to Shri George Fernandes, shortage reported by the State Gov- who is himself an expert in under- ernment of West Bengal following ground activities, to unearth the un- the strike of boatmen/bargemen, the derground activities that are going on Government of India had permitted in his Ministry and set right the a special movement of about 30,000 things. tonnes of salt by all rail route. This SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: If special rail movement was arranged the hon. Member has any information through the nominees (traders) who about the underground activities ef were appointed by the State Govern- ment of West Bengal. salt traders in West Bengal, I shall most certainly be willing to investigate. But in so far as the salt that Since the ban on the movement of is now moving into West Bengal is Stlt by rail from Tuticorin to West concerned, it is moving only to those Bengal & Orissa has not affected parties who have been nominated fcy the production of salt in Tuticorin the Government of West Bengal. It area, the question of any hardship is true that there has been smuggling having been caused to the small of salt outside the country and there producers and thousands of salt-pan is a ban on export. This is primarily workers would not arise. However, due to the fact that our own salt pro- to protect further the interest of the duction has not been adequate. We srnatl producers, the Government have been far below the targeted nas taken a decision, to permit spon- levels of production and just now we sored movement of 25 wagons of salt have reasons to fear that, if the cur- per day by all rail route to West rent level of monsoon sustains, then Bengal from the various salt pro- we may have to import salt from the ducing areas including Tuticorin next year. So, we are keen to see area. The system seems to be work- that salt is not smuggled out of IRis ing well and therefore there is wo country, and we shall do everything proposal before the Government to to see that it is not smuggled out. reconsider the same. SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: My second question arises out of the SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: answer given by the hon. Minister. The answer given by the hon. Min- He says that production of salt is ister is rather misleading. I want declining in our country. I challenge to know whether he is aware that his figures. Even the Salt Depart- this is an offshoot of the total ban on ment has said that there is a surplus the export of salt imposed by the of more than 10 lakh tonnes to be Government on 29th September, 1977. allowed for export. Salt cannot be The theory is that, if salt is booked consumed too much by the people. to any Station in West Bengal or There is a limit to consumption of Orissa by rail, that will be smuggled salt. Too much salt also is not ®ood into Bangladesh, and in the name of It is only in West Bengal that this 33 Oral Anjnoert AGRAHAYAHA 15, 1809 (SAKA) Orol Answers

is happening. U actually there is a problems and we may become impor- shortage all over the country, then ters of salt instead of exporters of the bigger States should suffer. salt. States like UP must suffer first. But prices have not gone up in any other There have been valid reasons for State: this complaint comes only the production of salt going down. from West Bengal. So, there are For instance, we had the cyclone and parties in West Bengal who are in- we had excessive rain-fall: the Sam- terested in seeing that the ban is bar Lake has been completely flood- imposed so that they can have an ed and there will be no production area of operation for smuggling of there for some time. So, there are salt. So* this ban is helping only the many reasons why the capacity of big traders who are interested in those concerned with the production smuggling. We should therefore of salt is ging down. In the circums- allow the export of salt openly so tances, we are keen to see that our that smuggling csu be prevented. salt is not smuggled out of India and, to the extent possible we would like SHRI GEOROE FERNANDES: If to prevent it and also the formal ex- the Hon. Member has any information port of salt. Export orders were about any smuggling activities in taken without the knowledge of STC West Bengal or collusion of anyone and without the knowledge of the in West Bengal in the smuggling of Ministry by some private manufac- salt, I shall be happy to have the in- turers of salt. We have imposed cer- formation. (Interruptions). Since tain restrictions as they have become very necessary. the same charge has been repeated in the second supplementary, I have So far -as movement by train to repeated that if he can give me in- West Bengal and the special problem formation I shall be happy. of West Bengal is concerned, there is a history behind it: It is not a new So far as production of salt is con- development: It has been there over cerned, the Hon. Member has certain the years. For power plants and for views about the production and con- the requirement of Railways, coal is sumption figures of salt. The Fifth being shipped from Calcutta to the Plan target for production of salt was South. Now, these shipg return with 85 lakh tons while the actual pro- salt. If these ships do not carry salt duction in the last three years was on their reiturn journey, then the cost 59 lakh tons in 1974, 58 lakh tons in of taking coal to the south would be- 1975 and 40 lakh tons in 1976 and come prohibitive. This is an arrange- the production in the current year is ment which has worked over the expected to be 50 lakh tons. Our years: It is nothing new*. The ban annual requirement of salt is 58 lakh on exports was imposed in September. tons. Who consumes how much salt The Hon. Member is quite right. But and whether much should be con- in so far as the ban on movement by sumed or less should be consumed rail is concerned, this earlier ban im- are not questions which are valid posed in March has nothing to do here. We need 58 lakh tons of salt with the export of smuggling of every year and in the current year the salt. production will be 50 lakh tons. Last year the production was only 40 lakh SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: The tons. So, how are we managing? We Hon. Minister has said that last year are managing with the existing car- only 50 lakh tons were produced and ried over stocks and we have reasons this year 40 lakh tons are expected. to fear that if salt production in this He has also said that our requirement country does not come up to the this year is 58 lakh tons, the produc- expected standards then from next tion will be only 40 lakh tons. I am year we are going to have serious asking the Minister how he has 2856 LS—2. 35 Oral Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 36

managed with 40 lakh tons? But, Commissioner to assess the trends of it is my feeling that these figures have producion of salt from 1969 onwards been manipulated by certain vested and take account of the stocks of salt interests who colluded with the West available in the country today so that Bengal Politicians. based on their report, this ban could be withdrawn? If you send such a He has said that only the people Committed to Gujarat, Tamil Nadu of West Bengal have represented to and Andhra Pradesh, the salt-pro- Government and no other State, not ducing States, you will know the real even UP which is the biggest State facts. But this Committee should ex- nor Bihar has represented against the clude the Salt Commissioner. export of salt. It is only West Ben- gal monopolists that have represented to the Government. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, I want to refute in the strongest Before the Gandhi-Irwin Pact, possible terms the insinuations made people like me and Shri Morarji by the hon. Member against the Desai went to jail in the salt Satya- Minister of State for Industry. If grah issue. We are interested in salt the hon. Member has any informa- production; this year it has been 62 tion in so far as the collusion of the lakh tonnes produced by Gujarat West Bengal big business or any other and Damil Nadu excluding unlicensed party with the Salt Commissioner is Salt. Some vested interests have concerned, I am prepared to look mislead the Minister of State for In- into that information provided that dustries, not Shri George Fernandes. is sent to me. I know definitely and categorically, how it has happened. As of now, all export of salt in West Bengal or buying of salt in West How do the Government propose to Bengal is done thrdugh agents nomi- withdraw this ban imposed as a result nated by the State Government of of misleading representations by a West Bengal. We have nothing to do few monopolist traders of West Ben- with that. gal about crying about the artificial scarcity arising out of the unrealistic In so far as the figures of produc- price fixed in 1954 and thereafter by tion are concerned, the hon. Mem- the Salt Commissioner for deliveries ber spoke about manipulation o^ of salt by sea into West Bengal, such figures. He belongs to the party that shortages not having been reported was in power before. The figures by bigger States like U.P., Bihar etc.? were prepared by them. If they were manipulating those figures, it is for How did the Salt Commissioner them to tell me and I am ^prepared to notify the Salt traders in Tuticorin investigate. and in South India on 2nd Septem- ber, 1977 even before the han became effective on 29th September that they WRITTEN ANSWERS TO should not enter into export obliga- QUESTIONS tions—an action which has meant the loss of foreign exchange of about 1.5 lakhs dollars paid as demurrage % fiw wf m firofa to foreign vessels which were already in Tuticorin waters, an action * 2 &7. W* VI?: WT taken by the Minister of State for In- dustries to benefit the West Bengal monopolist traders? I can challenge ^TT % ^TRTTcT this matter. if fTT JfTOT % 4RHM TO Would the Government please appoint a Committee excluding the Salt + tTCTT ? 37 Written Answers AG R AHA YANA 15, 1399 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

TSTIW grvnF w t Nasik-Itarsi section) on Central Rail, way are facing great difficulties for ^ p m r ) : ^ 1978 travel between Nasik-Delhi; % ^TPT iiWlfacT ^>T irnTTcf ®FT^t % (b) whether no new trains liave i^TT^ ft # ITT^ 3TraFTTf^> 5^T been introduced in the above section ferr TOT|^$rre> 3f*r^t© in last thirty years; and ^fto ywtfgrT ^t *r*rr£ % f^nr (c) whether instead of introducing ffe n r *tnm ^rrftopr sftr §<\4) new trains Government have with- ?ttw «hHHV % «ft^ ir ferr tot ^ 1 drawn a passenger train between Bhusawal-I tarsi section? X* 3% t *ttct % ^ * ft % frofa % i%4 ^"tf cq^f^i ^ | 1 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): Ammonia Plants (a) to (c). On the Central Railway route, there are only two direct trains *291. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: "Will between Bombay VT/Nasik and Delhi the Minister of PETROLEUM AND namely 5/6 Punjab Mail and 57/58 CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Dadar-Amritsar Express for a long pleased to state:: time. The traffic which was cleared va) whether Government propose by these trains was largely for sta- to set up two big-«ize ammonia tions short of Mathura Jn. and for plants- stations towards Kanpur, Lucknow (b) if so, the details including broad and beyond. Apart from dieselising economic aspects thereof; and these two trains and augmenting their loads, Railways have introduced (c) when will a final decision be 115/116 Bombay-Lucknow Express, taken in the matter? 137/138 Bilaspur-Nizamuddin Chhatis- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN garh Express, 201/202 Bombay-Man- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM mad Panchwati Express and 149/150 AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Agra-Nizamuddin Qutab Express. By ZERS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISH- segregating the different types of RA): (a) to (c). It is proposed to traffic and clearing them by indepen- take up for implementation in 1978-7 dent fast services and also by with- two large sized fertilizer plants near drawing sectional through coaches on Rewas in Maharashtra based on gas 5/6 Punjab Mail and 57/58 Dadar- from the Bombay High structure. Amritsar Express, it has been possi- The plants would each have a capable to cater to the growth of traffic city for the manufacture of 1350 on this route over a period of years. tonnes per day of ammonia and ap- For instance, by the introduction of propriate quantities of urea. The 137/138 Chhatisgarh Express and plants together are estimated to cost 115/116 Bombay-Lucknow Express, Rs. 491 crores wih a foreign exchange eight through coaches—six between component of Rs. 280 crores. The Bombay-Lucknow and two between projects are being processed for the Delhi-Jabalpur have been withdrawn necessary approvals and financing from Punjab Mail and Dadar-Amrit- arrangements. sar Express, thereby releasing accommodation for through passenger Travel between Nasik and Delhi between Bombay V.T. and Delhi. *292. SHRI PARMANAND GO- Apart from traffic justification, and VINDJTWALA: Will the Minister of there being no requisite terminal RAILWAYS be pleased to state: facilities available at Nasik for origi- (a) whether the inhabitants of the nating a train, introduction of an cities and villages between Nasik- additional train between Bombay Delhi Section (particularly between VT/Nasik and Delhi has not been 39 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 40

found operationally feasible for want following railway lines have been in- of requisite terminal facilities at cluded in this year’s Budget on the Bombay-Delhi/New Delhi and spare request of the Government of Orissa: line capacity on sections enroute. 1. New Broad Gauge line from Tal- cher to Sambalpur. The cancellation of 349 Dn/350 UP on Bhusawal-Itarsi section occasions 2. New Broad Gauge line from initially owing to pressure on the Koraput to Parvatipuram/Salur. limited section capacity in the wake of diversion of Western Railway trains following floods/breaches on mar n Star iftare vm rnr Delhi-Bombay (Western Railway) route in August, 1968 has continued on account of lack of adequate traffic * 294. jpivR : w justification. WBCI THTVT There are already two pairs of ^ f t I passenger trains serving Bhusawal- Itarsi section, one during day and one ( ^ ) ^TT TT^T during night which even are not fully patronised. There is, therefore^ no TTef7 sften* +i«sfFn justification for restoring this train. Steps by way of granting stoppages of express trains at comparatively important stations on Bhusawil-Itarsi ( ^ ) v fn r section and a revision in the train timings on this section, have been taken to cater to the needs of public SftfTOT I ? who were availing the cancelled 349 Dn/350 UP Passenger.

New Railway Line in Orissa («ft *** : ^ (sr) . ^ *293. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the wtsnr «rrr^n% Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ^ ft^TT I I f a r ** state: 19 7 2 ^f, % IrTT-^f^T 9HOT- (a) whether there is any proposal *trt ^TTftr w w & J srrf «ft f under the consideration of Govern- % ^ ^ ^ ^ ment to conduct an engineering and sft ^TT ft^n t traffic survey for the construction of new Railway line in the State of Orissa; f t s (b) whether any approach has also been made by Government of Orissa l_^q-pr Tfo 1 OTT in this regard; and % 41 I (c) if so, the reaction of Central Government thereto? *T o 2 f t n f W % THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) 3 r^lMT to (c). Preliminary Engineering-cum- Trafflc Surveys for construction of the w i % t 41 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

4-^rr^T^o 4 *fftrTT AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state; TK ^TTTf (a) whether in the Mathura Refin- % \ ery and township no record was kept of the outgoing and incoming material prior to 31st August, 1976 and it was

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA):

(a) whether it is a fact that the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Shoiapur Division has been bifurcated AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- into two units, one up to Gulbarga ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): going to the Central Railway and the Apart from off-shore exploration, other to the South Central Railway; ONGC has planned to continue exploratory surveys (Geological, seismic (b) what are the considerations and gravity-magnetic) in the various that led Government to take such a prospective areas in the States of Gu- decision; and jarat, J&K, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh> Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal, Assam, (c) whether it is a fact that because Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, Naga- of this bifurcation the State of Karna- land, Meghalya, Tripura, Tamil Nadu, taka has come to be served by three Pondicherry, Andhra Pradesh and different Zonal Railways, whereas the Rajasthan. neighbouring state of Maharashtra is served by only one Zonal Railway? Locations for exploratory drilling are released by the ONGC according to the priorities drawn up on the basis THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) of data collected by geological and other surveys. Currently apart from The erstwhile Shoiapur Division of continuing exploratory drilling in the South Central Railway has^een merg- known hydrocarbon bearing areas in ed with Central Railway in its entire- Gujarat, Assam, Triputa and off-shore ty except for the Shahabad/Wadi- area?, exploratory drilling at some new Raichur section which has been retain- places such as Jwalamukhi, Ramsha- ed on the South Central Railway. har and Diamond Harbour is also being conducted by the ONGC. Explora- (b) Administrative and operational tory drilling at Puranpur and Parewa requirements have led to the retention in Uttar Pradesh and at Narsapur in of the above section on South Central Andhra Pradesh will also be taken up Railway. shortly.

(c) It is a fact that the State of At present the ONGC does not en- Karnataka will now be served by visage exploratory drilling in Sagar three Zonal Railways, Viz., Cenrtal, Division or Jhansi Division because tbe Southern and South Central as against geological surveys carried out by the two viz., Southern and South Central ONGC in this area in the past do not previously, but the State of Mahara- justify any exploration work. stra is served not by one but by four Zonal Railways as hitherto viz., Cen- Requisites for Divisional H.Q. tral, South Central, South Eastern and Western. •301. SHRI RAJ SHEKHAR KO- LUR: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Oil Exploration in Sagar and JIuumI Divisions (a) what are the icquisiteg for establishing Divisional Headquarters *300. SHRI LAXMI NARAIN NA- at a particular piace; YAK: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND (b) whether Bangalore city fulfils FERTILIZERS be pleased to state the these conditions; and Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

(c) if so, why fullfledged Division (c) whether Government have exa- is not being established at Bangalore? mined the suggestions made by the Committee; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (d) if so, when these are likely fo SHEO NARAIN): (a) The Divisional be implemented? Headquarters are located on administrative and operational require- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- ments. TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (•SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) No (b) No, Sir. report from the Bar Council or the (c) Does not arise. Committee appointed by iT has been received by Government. Report of Expert Committee on MRTP Act (b) to (d). Do not arise. *302. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will Attendant to Disabled Persons the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to •304. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHA- refer the reply given to Unstarred RIEF: Will the Minister of RAIL- Question No. 3938 on the 19th July, WAYS be pleased to state: 1977 and state: (a) whether it is a fact that Gov- (a) whether the Expert Committee ernment allow disabled persons to set up by the Government to undertake one attendant who is given 15 take the review of the MRTP Act and per cent off against one second class rec mmerd changes have submitted ticket and a free ticket against a first their report; and class ticket but it is impossible for an uneducated disabled person to go (b) if so, the details thereof and through all these formalities which the action proposed to be taken on are time consuming and taxing even their recommendations? for a normal person; and

THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (b) if so, whether Government AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI propose to consider their plight sym. SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) No, Sir pathetically and issue a permanent identity card with attested photo- (b) Does not arise. graphs issued by the competent authority and give priority while getting Suggestions of Bar Council of India ticket at the ticket window? for Disposal of Cases THE MINISTER OF STATE IN *303. SHRI PRASANNBHAI MEH- THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS TA: WiU the Minister of LAW .JUS- (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be The facility of Rail Travel Concession pleased to state: is admissible to all categories of Or- thopaedically handicapped persons, ac- (a) whether the Committee ap- companied by an escort, for all pointed by the Bar Council of India journeys at the option of the handi- to suggest ways and means to expe- capped persons subject to their pro- dite disposal of the criminal and civil ducing a certificate to the Station cases as well as to clear the arrears Master concerned from an orthopaedic in the various courts, has recommend- Surgeon or a Government Doctor to ed that a fixed time table be followed the effect that the person is ortho- for deciding all cases; paedically handicapped. The element of concession allowed is Iff per cent (b) what are the other recommen- below the basic fares for the patient dations made by the Committee; and the escort separately in the case 47 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 48

of First Class and one Single journey (b) The extension of 1 JH/2 JF Second Class Mail Fare for the patient Hatia-Jharsuguda passenger to and only in the case of Second Class and from Titlagarh is not ieasible for want ' no fare for the escort. Of adequate terminal facilities at Tit- Under the existing procedure for lagarh It will also not ze liked by availing of the concession, such per- passengers on Jharsuguda-R ourkela sons can have the concession tickets section as it serves the Industrial direct from the station concerned on workers and will also result in miscon" production of the requisite certificate. nection with 23/24 Hatia-Patna Ex- On the other hand, the procedure for press at Hatia. availing of the concessions By most of (c) No. the other categories of persons entitled thereto requires them to approach Representation re. Pue-Sfiraj section the headuarters Office or the Divi- of South Central Railway sional Office of the Railway Adminis- tration concerned. Under the existing 2670. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the Rules, the certificate required to be Minister erf RAILWAYS be pleased to produced' by an orthopaedically han- state: dicapped person is maintained as a (a) whether Government have re- record by the station staff for internal ceived representation dated 21st Sep- check by Accounts Department and tember, 1977 regarding Pune-Mira] also forms an authority on the basis Section of the South Central Railway— of which a concession ticket is Issued. increase of Rent from caterers; and In view of this, it is not possible to have the concession tickets issued to (b) if so, what action have Gov- such persons on production of Identity ernment taken or propose to take and when? Card. The procedure if adopted is 1 also likely to result in misuse of this facility. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Representation regarding extension of (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. Hatia Jharsuguda passenger train (b) On the basis of the latest perio- 2069. SHRI GANANATH PRA- dical review, with effect from 1st DHAN: Will the Minister of RAIL- August 1976, South Central Railway WAYS be pleased to state: have increased the rent of the Rail- way accommodation provided to the (a) whether Government have re- Catering/Vending contractors from 6 ceived any representation from people per cent to 10 per cent of the capital living in the surrounding areas °f cost of these structures. This is with- Sambalpur and Bolangir Districts of in the permissible maximum limit of Orissa for the extension of Hatia 11 per cent prescribed as per rules. Jharsuguda passenger train up to However, individual cases of hard- Titlagarh; ships will be reviewed keeping in view the commercial viability, sales (b) if so, what steps have so far turnover, remunerativeness of the been taken by Government in this re- contract, other local conditions, etc. gard as there are no regular train services from Jharsuguda to Titlagarh Representation by Fertflhcer Promotion onwards South in the afternoon; and Staff Association, Calcutta (c) whether any new train services 2671. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the sre proposed for this region in near Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- future? MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be THE MINISTER OF STATE Iff pleased to state: SHE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (a) whether representation No. (SHBi S m O NARAIN): (*) Yfes. FESA/T4, dated filth September, lSfTT Written Answers AGR AH AY ANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

by the Joint Secretary, Fertilizer Pro- irk (s r). ftraftrc ftrfs *T gsrc % motion Staff Association, Calcutta regarding the problem faced by Ine Wfa'W'TTlftfa'Wlt einp]oyees of the Fertilizer Promotion ft>*rr 'xiimh 1 and Agricultural Research Centre, was received; fWHnr H «mt % (b) if so, what are their problems; and (c) action taken by the Govern- 2673. Wr%*T JHn* *tW : ment t0 solve their problem? Wl ^ qai'l frtTT V^T %

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ( * ) 3rrc THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Mhanr t j pt % AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZ- ERS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): yt ffgirr fr?Rt | srtr t | ? wherever possible. n TtW («ft for* foflPfTT ^TT € fin w r, 1977 : ( * ) »WV % **n*fr wft firm *THr 5 i v’Nrfrzff sfk srftftrar »r^ff tfWT ’irnVT: 12493 «fk 5886 t • t^r . _____ ufaVTT (^ ) 3ft I '3in*eifll % v h «5r^ 11 iftT mwpft fTRT I^ t f% : (n ) q^T T>f smrrsr fir^rcrtfR’ I (*) 2RT WZftT m U«e ef Hiadf in SUalatrr «f Bail ways sfRrftfirtlf yt % v f im x % Rt s m sh* 3^r^rf<+ w j t c f t 2874. SHRI NAWAB SINGH CHAU- ^ HAW: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS O cv be pleased to state: ?T fT fiHIT ^ (a) the steps taken to promote the («r) w t <»i use of Hindi in the Ministry of Rail- V ways; frfcr, «nmra (b) whether tfe®re & a Hindi Com- ttktee to ad^iie foe Wnittry

(b) if so, the names thereof; and on the basis of which the production was made; (c) whether there is any proposal to reduce the running time of Vennadu (b) their production and sales year- Express in between Trivandrum and wise for last three years; Ernakulam? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (c) during last year were files THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS of M/s Sandoz referred to Law (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). Ministry and repatriation was stop- A proposal to extend the runs of 81/82 ped; if so, under what provisions o f Bombay-Cochin Jay anti Janata Ex- Act these were allowed and under press to and from Trivandrum in 78- what authority; and 79 is under consideration. (d) the names of their Directors (c) 373/374 Ernakulam-Trivandrum and their former status? Venad Express has been speeded up by 3 hours and 15 minutes in one direc- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM tion and 2 hours and 45 minutes in AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- the other direction from 1-4-77. Fur- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) ther speeding up of this train has not A Statement furnishing the details of been found feasible at present. Industrial approvals granted to M/s. Sandoz is enclosed. The value of im- Issue of licences to M/s. Sandoz ported and canalised bulk drugs used for production of formulations was as 2676. SHRI R. K. AMIN: Will the follows: Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be 1973 . . Rs. 19,570 ooo’s pleased to state: 1974 . . Rs. 19,847 „

(a) the details of Industrial licenses— 1975 • * • Rs! 20,333 COB Permission letters and Import/ export of canalised items, price ap- Information regarding price appro- provals under Drug Price Control vals under the D. P. C. O. and the Order and changes in Price approvals changes in prices approved from time from time to time accorded to M/s. to time is being collected and will be Sandoz during Fifth Five Year Plan laid on the table of the House. (b) (1) Production

(i) Bulk Drugs 1973 239 ooo’s kgs Value Rs. 5627 ooo’s

1974 221 99 99 Rs. 5631

Rs. 11647 1975 247 99 >T » j >»

(ii) FcriruJaticns (Tablets) 1973 332 Mio Nos, Rs. 17492

x974 359 Do. Rs. 22008 »»

1975 395 Do. Rs. 26595 •>

(in) Capsules] 1973 4i Do. Rs. 5801 ..

1974 4* Do. Rs. 6073 »»

*975 Do. Rs. 9188 n, j j j Written Answers DECEMBER *6, 1977 Written Answers 56

(iv) Granules - • *973 3766 Kgs. Rs. 250 ooo's

*974 2999 » Rs. 188 „

‘ 1975 4073 »> Rs. 496 „

(p) Synjps .. • 1973 636 000 ltrs. Rs. 9065 „

J974 868 »» Rs. *3630 M

1975 965 » Rs. 22964 n

(si) Ampoules • 1973 «3 Rs. 6432 „

*974 81 99 Rs. 8629 „

*975 100 99 Rs. *2753 „

(2) Sales Turnover • *973 87,817 (Rs. ooo’s)

1974 95,753 Do. *975 114,158 Do.

(c) During the last year files of Ministry of Finance was requested to M/s. Sandoz had neither been referred withhold further remittances of the to Law Ministry nor repatriation stop- technical fee relating to this project ped. However, in February, 1974 cer- After examining various aspects of the tain doubts were raised about the ful- case in consultation with the Mmistry filment of condthms of the Industrial of Law, Department of Science and Licence No. L|22|166|63-Ch. Ill dated Technology CSIR and /DGTD and keep- 21-8-63 for manufacture of Active ing in view the export performance of principles of Podophyllum etc. and also the company, the concerned authorities the terms of the Collaboration Agree- were advisjed to release remittances ;ment. Pending scrutiny of this the held in abeyance. (d) (1) Shri S. Ranganathan, Chairman Indian

(2) Dr. Jayanta Nath Banerjee, Managing Director . -Do-

(3) Mr. J. P. Christen Director Swiss

(4) Dr. Yves Dunant, Director .... Swiss

(5) Mr. Emile Ernest William Dichenberger, Director -Do-

(6) Mr. Johann Peter Hayoz, Dy. Managing Director -Do-

(7) Mr. Anthony William Bard Hayward, Director . -Do-

(8) Mr. Max Hedigar, Director .... -Do-

(9) Mr. Dahyabhai Sankerbhai Patel, Director Indian

(10) Dr. Hans Winklar, Director . . . Swiss

(11) Dr. Augusto Zocca, D ir e c t o r ...... -Do-

(12) Dr. Saurendra Kumar Bhattacharya, Alternative Director Indian for k. Domant

Information reganii«g> their former status is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the JHouse. 57 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) WHttten'Ahswers 5#

Statement

Details o f Industrial licences COB tuenc&s; Permission Utter and no objection letter granted to A f[s. Sandoz (I) Limited for the mjmjfacture o f Drugs and Pharmaceuticals.

SI. No. & date of Industrial Licence Items of manufacture No.

1 2 3

1 L/22/71/56 dated 19-11-56 and . Calcium Gluconate Qricfbromate L/22/32/60-Ch. Ill dt. 19-11-60 and Calcium Lactobicmatc ChlriumLactate L/22/383/70-Ch. Ill dt. 7-4-70. Gluconate Ferrous Gliiconate Galactose Fructose

2 L/22/281/65-Ch. Ill dt. 27-7-65 . Ferrous Fumerate

3 L/22/288/65-Ch. Ill dt. 1-10-65 • Magnesium < Gluconate

4 L/22/166/63-Ch. Ill dt. 21-8-63 . Active Principles of Podophyllum 5 Amended vide i(77)/6a-Ch. Ill dt. 16-5-67 . Active Principles of Senna and Bclladona 6 L/22/240/64-Ch. Ill dt. 26-10-64 DigoxinBfF.

7 L/22/373/69-Ch. Ill dt. 24-11-69 . Intestopan substance (Substantial Expansion);

Formulations

1 L/22/71/s6 dt. 19-11-56

2 HC/i (23)/58 dt. 4-3-58

3 3(6)/6i-Ch. Ill dt. 8-3-61

4 3(43)/62-Ch. Ill dt. 20-12-62 5 L/22/i84/64rCh. Ill dt. 9-1-64 1 1 N 6 L/22/245/65-Ch. Ill dt. 23-1-65

7 L/22/254/65-Ch. Ill dt. 23-1-65 h Various types of drag formulations such as: 8 L/22/281/65-Ch. Ill dt. 28-7-65 tablets, capsules, injectabies etc.

9 L/22/416/71-Ch. Ill dt. 6-7-71 (COB) 10 22/296/IA (n)/6o dt. 11-7-60 11 22/125/IA (11) 55 dt. 14-5-57 12 22/481/IA/11 dt. 18-1-62

13 3/6/61-Ch. Ill dL 5-4-61 14 3/43/62-Ch. Ill dt. 6-11-62 *5 3/4-3/^2-Cai. Ill dt. 4-9-62 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 60

*i«rrgr ^ vr vrr*or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHttI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). Survey 2 67 7. «ft : w r reports of this project are still under *T?ft ^ «) mr *rf[ t fa w j t ftrct after the examination of the reports is completed and would depend on the (^feT qfr^nr Twt) ^ fafa^r availability of funds. % HTf^ff % fopfr **TH ( ^ ? ) Investigations into affairs of Com- mrftrcT ^ ^ t v t f t o % panies ^ f t r % f^^TTnsfhr ^ *, «c.. 2679. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- DIA: Will the Minister of LAW, (*?) qfc ^t, ) *t (*r)‘ i —i—197 8 were found in the working of some % |ifl ^T Vt^T ^ I taining the names of the Companies under different categories is attached. Gnnivayar-Kuttipuram railway line (c) and (d). The investigation re- 2678. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: Will the port on M/s. Batchu Subba Rao Ge- Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to neral Trading Company Private Li- state: mited reveals inter alia that the accounts were not maintained in a re- (a) whether the construction work gular and systematic manner, heavy of the Guruvayar-Kuttipuram rail- amounts of cash disproportionate to way line has started; the needs of business were kept with- (b) if so, the details thereof; and out depositing in bank, stock regis- ters for various goods were not main- (c) if not, what is the present stage tained and certain transactions relat- •of the said project? ing to oil section of the company 6 i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

were not taken into account while pre- 20. M/s. South Karanpura Coal Com- paring the annual accounts for 1974- pany Limtied. 75. The report also indicated contra- ventions of section 58A and 297 and 21. M/s. Garuda Investments Compa- ny Limited. non-compliance of requirements of Schedule VI of the Companies Act, 22. M/s. Karanpura Colleries Limit- 1956. ed. 23. M/s. Lawrence Investments and Statement Property Co. Ltd. A. Names of Companies in which in- 24. M/s. Sijua (Jherriah) Electric vestigations under section 235/237 are Supply Company Limited. in various stages of progress. 25. M/s. Burrakur Coal Company 1. M/s. Rayala Corporation Limited. Limited. 2. M/s. Steel Sons Private Limited. 26. M/s. General Investment and Trust Limited. 3. M/s. Shalimar Works Limited. 27. M/s. Bird and Company Limited. 4. M/s. Hindustan General Indust- ries Limited. 28. M/s. Kinnison Jute Mills Com- pany Limited. 5. M s. New Chumta Tea Company Limited. 29. M/s. Union Jute Company Limit- ed. 6. M/s. Handa Rotary Machines Li- mited. ■ 30. M/s. Bisra Stone Lime Company Limited. 7. M/s. Mittalsons Land and Fin- ance Private Limited. 31. M/s. Heilgers Investments Limit- ed name changed to Birds Trading 8. Ms. Synthetics and Chemicals and Investments Co. Ltd. Limited. 32. M/s. Bharat Gauge and Tools 9. M/s. Dharampur Leather Cloth Limited. Company Private Limited. 33. M/s. Kottayam Textiles Limited. 10. M/s. Associated Biscuit Company Private Limited. B. Names of companies in which investigation under section 235/237 is 11. M/s. Trfsure India Limited. not in progress because of stay orders 12. M/s. Upper Doab Sugar Mills Li- passed by various Courts. mited. 1. M/s. Jiyajeerao Cotton Mills Li- 13. M/s. Kumardhubi Fireclay and mited. Silica Works Limited. 2. M/s. Hasimara Industries Limited. 14. M/s. Insov Auto Limited. 3. M/s. Ashoka Marketing Company 15. M/s. J. B. Mangharam and Com- Limited. pany Private Limited. 4. M/s. Sudarsan Trading Company 16. M/s. Excelsior Plants Corporation Limited. Limited. 5. M/s. Ashoka Cement Limited. 17. M/s. Orissa Minerals Develop- 6. M/s. Hindustan Development ments Company Limited. Corporation Limited. 18. M/s. Borrea Coal Company Li- 7. M/s. Modi Industries Limited. mited. 8. M/Si Titaghur Paper Mills Comp- 19. M/s. Eastern Investment Limited. any Limited. 63 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

9. M/s. North Brook Jute Company ^ T V t Wife Limited. fVrlTH tr^ff 10. M/s. Birds Investments Limited 5KPT qft {.feiM H IW name changed to M/s. Anniversary Investments & Agencies Limited. (* n f *ft *ft) *rt % «RPf?rj ^ 11. M/s. F. W. Heilgers & Co. (Pvt.) 1976 5TTT 1 9 7 7 *T ( P m 5TO Limited, name changed to M/s. Heil- mih i sftr ft ini gers Limited. % r 13. M/s. Continuity Company Limited. ^ «rt ^to iui 14. M/s. Kumardhubi Engg. Works % faur** % qfr®ir»r^r^r Limited. 4 mi M'M'I >T*r fea<»i 5RTPT »T$ «ft I C. Name of the company in which investigation has been completed and (m ) «rk (»r). wi»r#T^ +r*rm report received during the last six months: ?r«rr vjs Jr ^ »i% ?ra?rr wfW f faWJTOf 3*% *TTf>S?ff T t « n t 1. M/s. Batchu Subbaro General Trading Company Private Ltd. *ft ?ft t^fR nrr/fen.or JfTPT % ffwrfiHrT lh«RT W tT^T ira SR>R % 400 % 500 *«rfRPft T t 5^: qwfiwf % fa ? vsn% % « o irzfewt^x, 197 7 % Trx erf faqr 26 80- TP» : WT ^HTT I d^lfs if fTOT %?SX 3VTV *fsft fe^TT ^ n n l—2—l 975 ^ W JTf ^TT% f^TT ^rr'ir % : uTipTr wRufer ^rt t , ( v ) ncT TT % 3fhpT ijcrjt *A N ’l I % ^Pxfnrf 5 ^ ^ ^ f^ r ?nir q f «nrr «tt i w % ftpt Jjit ; ifrsRT % inxm r ^t p h t 60 0 r«.d<«i it ^rr ^ i (T p{^i ■•I'Ml ^ ; wr^r (?rrf ?ft w%\ (*T) 5ft WT I ; *tk fV^*i *pV S ^ 2 5 srf^Rr ^srftniT

(^ ) mftnar *r »rcr 5pt t 14*1 i fa *ii tr-S'faut % wniCT % fair t o r *rr tiHf»-yd sirfezff % uTTfe^T WT

fsRfr fadi<»r j Parcels Handling Work at Khurja

H

Statement Average No. of labour supplied daily by the Railway Sharm Samoida Sahkari Samiti Ltd., Tundla from June, 1975 to September. 1977

Month Tundla Etawah Shikohabad Khurja J®« Labour Labour Labour Labour \ Supplied Supplied Supplied Supplied

1 2 3 4 5

*975 June . 35 >4 14 I4

July . 3§ 12 13 13

August 37 >3 *5 14

September . 35 12 >4 <4

October 36 12 *5 x3

November . 38 *3 *4 H

December . • . 36 12 13 14 1976 January 37 12 *5 *4

February . 37 *3 16 >4

March • 36 *3 *5 >5 April . 36 12 16 *5

May . • 38 <3 *4 16

June . • 37 *3 '5 / *5 July . . 37 *3 >4 *4

August 36 12 16 *4

September . 34 *3 *5 *5 October 36 12 16 *4

November . . 37 12 15 !4

December . • • 35 >3 *4 *5

OT 7 January . 38 >3 15 *5

February . • • 38 !4 *5 *4 March 37 *3 *5 x5 April . 39 *3 *5 16

May . • 37 *3 14 16

June . • 38 *3 *5 15 July • 38 *3 15 *5

August • • • 37 >3 <5 «5

September . 36 *3 16 1 6 69 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

Oil in Gangetic Basin Private ang Assisted Sidings on Allahabad Division 2683. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 2684. SHRI PUNDALIK HARI DAN- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be WE: Will the Minister of RAIL- pleased to state: WAYS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural (a) the details of Private and As- Gas Commission was not seriously sisted Sidings functioning on Allaha- concerned over on-shore oil and natu- bad Division of the Northern Railway; ral gas exploration during the last decade and especially during the (b) the details of demurrage charges last three years after the discovery of raised against these siding owners oil in the Bombay High area; during the periods January, 1975 to (b) if so, whether there is tremen- July, 1977 month-wise and siding-wise dous potential for oil in Gangetic separately and the amount of demur- Basin stretching from Punjab to rage charges foregone; ’ West Bengal and deep drilling in (c) the details of demurrage charges, these areas could be very rewarding; shunting charges and other charges and lying outstanding and in how many (c) if so, the efforts of Government cases Siding Owners have been given in this regard? final notice for clearance of outstanding dues; and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (d) what other steps are being taken ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) for speedy clearance of outstanding Due emphasis has been laid on the dues? on shore exploration programme. In fact, bulk of Commission’s efforts in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN terms of manpower and equipment are THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS directed towards on-shore exploration. (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) There are 52 Private and Assisted (b) and (c). The exploratory drilling sidings on the Allahabad Division of conducted by the ONGC in the Gan- Northern Railway. Statement indicat- getic Basin so far, has not led to any ing the details of these sidings is at- commercial discovery of crude oil or tached. gas. The efforts are, however, being intensified with the help of powerful (b) to (d). The information is being rigs capable of drilling deeper pros- collected and will be laid on the able pects. of the House.

Statement

S. No. Name of Siding Serving Station

I Allahabad Glass Works Naini

2 Satna Cement Works . * . Do.

3 Baidya Nath Ayurved Bhawan Private Ltd. . Do. 4 G.C.C. Siding . . Do. 5 Triveni Structurals Ltd. Do. 6 Hindus than Steel Ltd. . Do.

7 Indian Oil Corporation .... Panki 71 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 72

I 2 3

8 Indian Explosives Ltd. Panki

9 New Thermal Power Siding Do. 10 Singh Engineering Works .... Do. 11Central Government Food & Storage Godown Chandari

12 Burmah Shell Oil & Storage and Distributing Co. of India Bamrauli

13 Glaxo Laboratories . . . Manzurgarhi

14 U.P. Electric Supply Administration Mirzapur

15 Power House Siding . Mainpuri 16 Hind Lamp Private Ltd. Shikohabad

17 Govt. Cement Factory Churk 18 Shadow Factory Siding (FCI) Harduaganj

19 Power House Siding A & B Do. 20 I.O.C. Siding .... Subedarganj

21 I.O.C. (Users of Air Force Siding) Chakeri (Kanpur)

22 Hindustan Aeronantics Ltd. Do.

23 Singh Engineering Works Ltd. Kanpur Central Goods Shed

24 Muir Mills Co. Ltd...... Do.

25 Tannery & Footwear Corporation of India (Cooper Allen / B r a n c h ) ...... Do.

26 Tanners & Footwear Corp. of India Ltd. (N.W.T. Branch Siding) ...... Do.

27 Regional Food Controller...... Do. 28 India Supplies & Engineering Works Ltd. (Changed to India Thermit Therm Coop. Ltd.) .... Do.

29 Elgin Mills No. 1 . Do. 30 Umrao Industrial Corpn. Ltd. Do.

31 Kanpur Rolling Mills . ... Do. 32 Gamesh Flour M ills ...... Do.

33 Burmah Shell Oil & Storage & Distributing Co. Do.

34 J.K. Cotton Manufacturing Co...... Do.

35 Kanpur Sugar Works (Used by Kanpur Textiles) . Do. 36 Do.

37 Kanpur Elec. Supply Administration Siding-A Do. 38 Kanpur Elec. Supply (River Side Power House) Do. Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

39 J.K. Cotton & Spinning Kanpur Central Goods Shed

40 Kanpur Woollen Mills Do.

41 Swadeshi Cotton Mills Do.

42 Elgin Mills No. 2 (Kanpur Cotton Mills) Do.

43 J.K. Iron & Steel Do.

44 New Victoria Mills Do.

45 Laxmi Rattan Cotton Mills Do.

46 Tata Iron & Steel Go. Do.

47 Atherton West Co. Do.

48 Standard Vaccum Oil Go. . Do.

49 J.K. Jute Mills .... Do.

50 Hindustan Steel Ltd. (Gwaltoli) . Do.

51 Moti Lai Padampat Udyog Ltd. . Do.

52 Ganges Flour Mills Do.

Collision of Sangmm Express at (b) No one was killed. As a result Khurja of sudden braking, however, 12 persons sustained trivial injuries of whom 2685. SHRI RUDRA SEN CHAU- DHARY; Will he Minister of RAIL- 10 continued their journey after first aid was rendered. The other two per- WAYS be pleased to state: sons were sent to the Civil Hospital (a) whether the Sangam Express from where they were discharged after collided on 28th October, 1977 at first aid. Khurja City on the Northern Railway; (c) There was no damage to railway (b) the number of passengers in- property. jured and killed together with the The question of payment of compen- number of passengers who were given sation in such cases does not arise. first aid and were allowed to resume (d) According to the finding of the their journey by the same train; Inquiry Committee, the accident was (c) the amount of loss sustained by due to failure of railway staff. the Government and compensation Disciplinary action agamst the de- paid and/or likely to be paid to the faulting staff has been initiated. affected persons; and Issue of Industrial Licences (d) whether any enquiry has been 2686. SHRI O. P. TYAGI: Will the ordered by the Government to probe Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- the causes of accident and if so, what MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleas- is the outcome of enquiry and action ed to statae: taken against the officers/officials (a) whether Government have teen found responsible for this mishap? issuing industrial licences to drug manufacturing firms in the past, with- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN out specifying capacities; THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) No, the (b) if so, brief particulars of these collision was averted. licences, mam& of firms, items of 75 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 . Written Answers

manufacture and reasons for not fix- raw materials and in others it was felt ing the capacities; and desirable to evaluate the demand res- (c) will Government institute an ponse for the products. inquiry into this affair and examine A Statement furnishing the details the matter in all aspects and recall of the cases and present position there- the benefits accrued to foreign firms of is enclosed. on account of this? (c) The Hathi Committee has al- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ready gone into the question of fixing AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- the capacities in COB licences and ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): other related matters. On the basis (a) Yes, Sir. of the recommendations of this Com- mittee, various aspects, including fixa- (b) Six licences were granted indi- tion of capacities, both for bulk drugs cating that capacities would be fixed and formulations as well as the me- later. Capacities were not specified at chanics of regulating the activities of the initial stage as in some cases plants foreign firms are being considered in were of a “multipurpose nature'* and their totality. Since the entire policy r it was felt desitable to watch the ac- framework for the drug industry tual production capabilities of such would be rationalised as a result of companies, as capacity pegged at cer- the decisions shortly to be taken on tain levels would have committed the the Hathi Committee Report, it is not Government to a certain level of out- proposed to institute a separate in- flow of foreign exchange on import of quiry.

Statement

1. M/s. Burroughs Welcome and Co. .Industrial Licence No. L/22/211/64-Ch. Ill giLntcd cn 2-5-64—for manufacture of Digoxin BP.

Capacity for manufacture of Digoxin has since been fixed at 9- 8 kgs. per year and endorsed on the relevant industrial licence. 2. M/s. Sandoz India Limited—L/22/240/64-Ch. Ill granted on 26-10-64 for manufacture, of Digoxin B. P.

Condition Remarks.

Capacity will be fixed on the basis of actual The company commenced production of Digc xin frt m production'after they have been able to the month of June, 1966. They aho reported by their establish production and produce letter dated 15-9-66 to DGTD that they had installed Digoxin for at least a period of six months, a capacity of 20 kgs. per annum for Digoxin. In July, 1968, the case was considered for fixation of capacity, DGTD noted that though in 1967 M/s. Sandcz reported production of Digoxin at 3563 gms, they' did not produce any quantity during the period January- June rd68 since they held sufficient stocks. It was decided, therefore, that their performance may be watched for a further period. In 1969 the case was again examined and it was observed that during 1968 their production was 1768 gms. which was Ie*s than their 1967 production. Considering that they had an installed capacity of 20 legs, but Their production did not so far justify this, and with a view to encouraging them to obtain maximum utilisation of installed capacity reported by them, it was decided that capacity may be fixed after watching further prepress. The matter remained pending till 1974 and the ca^c wa again examined and it was observed that M/s. Sandoz 77 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

Condi ticn Re marks

had obtained a maximum production of 23 kgs. during 1969—72 and it was considered that their capacity may be fixed on the basis of this production. It was, however, observed on further examination that during the years I973, 1974 and 1975 the production had declined to 13 kgs., 6 kgs. and 1 kg. respectively. Before finally fixing capacities, it was decided that the reason** for this decline in production should be ascertained particularly as this drug continued to be imported. The*r have been ascertaired and action for fixation of capacity will be taken after Govt’s decisions cn Re- commendations of Hathi Committee are finalised.

3. Mfs. Uni-Sankyo Limited No. L/22/407/71-CA. JH granted on 15-3-71.

C on d ition R em arks

Capacity to be fixed later. . . M/s. Uni-Sankyo I,td,*s application for registrpi;rr hrd been considered for the manufacture of Fungal Diastase Chlorpheniramine Maleate are Pyrazinamicfe and certain specialities based upon these bulk drugs. Their Foreign Collaboration Agreement was also subsequently approved. As per the reviseda Industrial Licensing Policy announced by Government in 1970. the firm were no longer eligible for registration and applied for grant of COB licence. Considering the effective stesps taken by them such as installation of plant and machinery, a COB licrrce was granted in March, 1971 wherein the capacity for the 3 bulk drugs involved was indicated. As regards the specialities based on these bulk drugB, it was decided that capacities for such specialities would be fixed after watching their actual performance. No time limit was, however, indicated. In April, 1974, the firm reported that they had been successful in establishing production of Fungal Diastase and Pyrazinamide but were not successful in producing Chlorpheniramine Ma’eate. Government is however, of the view that the Co. should take up the basic manufacture of this drug al>o. The capacities for specialities based on these bulk items would therefore, be fixed only after this, tnatier has been resolved and decision on the Recommenda- tions of Hathi Committee Report is finalised.

4. M is. Burroughs Wellcome, Lie. No* LI 221 ^08(66-Ch. HI granted on 20-7-66. Tubocurarin* Chloride.

Condition Remarks

Capacity to be fixed on the basis of actual The Company had applied for grant of licence for a production established for period of one capacity of 30 kgs. per annum of Tubocurarine Chlo- year. ride but were granted licence without specifying capacity. The company reported commencement of production in December, 1968. Their case for fixation of capacity was examined towards the end of 1969 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 80

Condition Rzmarks

and it was observed that during this period the company had faced difficulties in the manufacture of this product due to a breakdown in their plant (damage to continuous vacuum distillation 'unit of all glass). The company had obtained replacement against an emergency licence and expected to overcome there difficulties by the end of January, 1970. It was, therefore, decided to watch further progress before fixing capacity. In 1974 their case was again examined and it was observed that they had been able to achieve a maxi- , mum production of 6 kgs. per annum and it was noted that no demand estimate had been made for this item which is required as a muscle relaxant in certain types of operations and that this was the only licensed unit for this item. It was also noted that since this ’ was being manufactured in a multi-purpose plant, it was not necessary to consider economic size plant fof fixing capacity. With a view to ensuring adequate availability a tentative decision was taken to fix their capacity at 10 kgs. per annum. The capacity would tie formally endorsed on the licence after all other requisite formalities have been completed and Govt, decision on Hathi Committee Recommendaton is known*

5. Mjs. Roche Products, Lie. No. 1,/22/438/72-C/i. / / / granted on 11-4-72.

Vitamin E and Diagram t

C on d ition R em arks

Capacity to b: fixed ^after one year of When granting the COB Licence to this company operation. it was observed that forj? 2 of the items i.e bulk Diazepam and Vitamin E, production during 1968 1969 and 1970, had been in negligible quantities. It was, therefore, decided that capaciy for these should be fixed after watching their actual performance. In September, 1973 a view on fixation of capacities was taken. Before, however, a note could be placed' before the Licensing Committee, the Hathi Committee was set up in February, 1971 for examining various aspects of the drug industry. One of the questions included in its scope was fixation of capacity on COB licences. This file was also made available to the Hathi Committee and remained with them till April, , 975» anc* was only with reference to this case that a specific recommendation (Para 23—Chapter V} was made by the Hathi Committee in its report. Thereafter, the case was again examined and a tenta- t*vc. Yiew was taken which will be finalised after a decision on Hathi Committee’s recommendations has been taken. 8l Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

6. M/s. Sandoz Lie. No. Z/22/ 166/63-C/r. I l l granted on 21-8-63 Acl'v' Princif Its c f Sn.t i & Bdlcdc va

Condition Remarks

The capacity will be fixed on the basis of At the time of inclusion of ihr Active Prirc 7 V« c f 5>n a actual production for one year after the and Belladona in the licu cf } rid ly tl < fjn ir w( j production had been commissioned. a view was taken that since prcducticn of these it

High Court Bench in Got, Daman thus contravened the provision of and Din Industries (D and R) Act; and 2687. SHRI EDUARDO FALELRO: (b ) if so, what action Government Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE propose to take against them? AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM to state: AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) what steps have been taken (a) M/s. Hoechst are marketing Ampi- to establish a separate High Court in cillin formulation produced b y M/s. the Union Territory of Goa, Daman Indo German Alkaloids, a wholly In- and Diu or to provide it with a High Court Bench of a neighbouring State; dian owned Small Scale Unit under the name “Albercillin”. This does not and contravene the provision of the IDR (b) when will such a High Court or Act. a Bench of an existing High Court be (b) M/s. S.K.F. were producing and provided to that territory? marketing Eskaycillin Capsules without a valid Industrial Licence. After THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE examination of the case, while past AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI production was regularised, instruc- SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) and (b). tions were issued to Canalising Agen- The Chief Minister of the Union Terri- cies not to release or allocate any Am- tory has proposed the establishment in picillin to the Arm to prevent conti- the Union Territory of a Bench of the nued production thereof. The com- High Court of a neighbouring State. The proposal is under consideration. pany have since discontinued manufacture of this item. Contravention of Provisions of Indus- Unauthorised Expansion beyond tries (D and R) Act by M /s. Hoecbst Licensed Capacity by Foreign and S.KJF. Drag Finns 2688. SHRI BHARAT SINGH 2689. SHRI NATVERLAL B. PAR* CHOWHAN: Will the Minister of PET- MAR: Will the Minister of PETRO- ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: TILIZERS be pleased to state: (a) whether M/s. Hoechst and S.K.F. (a) whether some foreign drug have marketed some drug formula- manufacturing companies have appro- tions without industrial licences and ached Government for regularisation 83 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 84 of their unauthorised expansion be- and production during the last 2 years yond licensed capacity; is attached. (b) if so, the names of such com- (c) M/s. May & Baker were produc- panies, the extent of unauthorised ing Metronidazole excess of the capa- production vis-a-vls their proportion city of 602 kgs. per annum granted in to licensed capacities; and their COB licence dated 6-7-197^1, pending decision by Government on (c) Government’s reaction to the their representation that as per the po- regularisation proposal in particular in licy, they were entitled to a higher ca- the case of M/s. May and Baker? pacity. The representation of the company was accepted in December, 1975 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM and they were allowed a higher capa- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- city of 12000 kgs. per annum under ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): COB after taking cognizance of the (a) and (b). No foreign drug manufac- effective steps already taken by them turing company has approached Gov- to establish this capacity prior to the ernment specifically for regularisation effective date for obtaining COB, of unauthorised expansion beyond li- There is no other proposal for regula- censed capacity. However, during the rization of production of this Company course of the last three years, four at the moment. foreign firms have applied to the Gov- ernment for grant of industrial approv- It may also be mentioned that the als for effecting substantial expansion Hathi Committee on Drugs and Phar- maceutical Industry have made certain in the manufacture of such bulk drugs where they have production in excess recommendations as to the manner in of their licensed capacities. which excess production of drugs beyond authorised/licensed capacities A Statement showing the names of should be treated. These are under such companies bulk drugs for which consideration of Government and a they have applied for substantial ex- decision is likely to be taken thereon pansion, their present licensed capacity soon. i Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 87 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 88

Pancharatna-Daranggri Railway (d) whether it is a fact that a num- Project ber of porters were appointed who had no previous record of serviee in Rail- 2690. SHRI P. A. SANGMA: Will ways but they had to be absorbed as the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased certain high officials were interested to state: in these appointments; and

(a) whether Government have re- (e) what action Government pro- ceived any memorandum from the pose to take in the matter to remedy State Government of Meghalaya urg- the situation with a view to ensure ing the Union Government to com- justice to the real claimants who mission Pancharatna—Daranggri rail- were deliberately ignored? way project during the early part of 6th plan and extend the project at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN last up to WAGEASI in the Garo THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Hills District; (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Almost all the Class IV vacancies are filled from (b) if so, whether the matter is re- among casual labour/ substitutes after ceiving sympathetic consideration of screening. Those who have longer Government; and service get priority.

(c) what steps have been taken so (b) 4 persons were appointed as far in the matter? Substitutes.

THE MTNISTER OF STATE IN (c) and (d). No. THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). (e) These persons will not be ap- Yes. Preliminary En gineering-cum - pointed in the regular Class IV cadre Traffic Survey for a B.G. rail link bet- unless and until they are screened al- ween Jogighopa/Panchratna and Da- ong with other Substitutes and Casual ranggiri via Wageasi has been carried Labour. out during 1974-75 and the survey re- i ports are under examination. The de- Oil find in Nagaland cision regarding taking up this project would depend upon the results of the 2692. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the Mi- examination of Survey Reports and nister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- availability of resources. CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: Appointment to Class IV Posts on Railways (a) whether it is a fact that oil and Natural Gas Commission has struck 2691. SHRI N. K. SHEJWALKAR: oil in a District of Nagaland recently; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be and pleased to state*. (b) if so, what are the details avail- (a) what are the criteria for selec- able about this? tion/appointment of employees for class IV posts; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (b) the number of Return Delivery ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Porters appointed over Allahabad Di- (a) Yes, Sir. vision during Emergency and thereafter against the existing vacancies; (b) Oil and Natural Gas Commis- sion has drilled three wells on the Bor- (c) whether these porters were ap- holla structure falling in the Wokha pointed as per length of their service district of Nagaland. All the three and/or on seniority basis; wells have proved to be oil bearing. 89 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

Recruitment in Asansol Division, (b) if so, the foreign companies in- Eastern Railway volved, the licences values, the items etc.; and 2693. SHiRI ROBIN SEN; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (c) whether these items are being licensed to Indian manufacturers, if (a) the procedure laid down in the so, the details thereof? case of recruitment in various categories of employees in Asansol Divi- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM sion, Eastern Railway; AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (b) what minimum qualification is ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) required for the post of Commercial and (b). As a prelude to the issue Clerks, Trains Clerks, Ticket Collec- of Industrial Licence to the drug tors and Guards etc.; and manufacturing companies, a Letter of Intent is issued, subject to certain (c) whether there is any variation conditions, after obtaining the recom- in qualification in the case of recruit- mendations of the Licensing Commit- ment in the above categories after tee/Licensing-cum-MRTP Committee. 28th May, 1977 in some cases of re- The Letter of Intent is converted into cruitment in Asansol Division, if so, an Industrial Licence after the par- why? ty fulfils/accepts all the conditions of the Letter of Intent to the satisfaction THE MINISTER OF STATE IN of Government. THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Direct re- A Statement showing the details of cruitment to Class III is normally Letters of Intent granted to foreign through the Railway Service Commis- companies where they have applied sions. The General Managers of the for conversion of the same into Indus- Railways are, however, empowered to trial Licences after accepting/fulfill- make a few appointments (i) on coming all the prescribed conditions is passionate grounds, (ii) of sportsmen attached. and (iii) of Scheduled Caste/Schedul- ed Tribe candidates against the shortfall in vacancies reserved for them. A decision has been taken to with- Class IV vacancies are filled by hold the conversion of these Letters screening casual labour/substitutes. of Intent into Industrial Licences, which shall be final approvals of Gov- (b) Matriculation or equivalent. ernment, till Government takes a decision on the Hathi Committee’s re- (c) No. commendations.

Withholding issue of Industrial Licences to Foreign Drug Companies (c) During the course of last 2 years, only four Indian companies viz. 2694. SHRI O. P. TYAGI: Will the Unique Pharmaceutical, M/s. E.I.D. Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- Parry, M/s. Mac Lab. and Shri R. A MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Sikaria have applied for grant of pleased to state: licence for the manufacture of bulk (a) whether Government have drug namely Chloramphenicol (one of the items figuring in the enclosed taken a decision to withhold issue of industrial licences reportedly approv- Statement) and their proposals have ed by licencing Committee to foreign been approved. As regards other items drug manufacturing companies in listed in the Statement, no Indian view of the recommendations of the party has applied for licence to manu- Hathi Committee; facture these items. 91 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 92

Statement

S. No. Name of the Company Item of manufacture & annual capacity.Estimated Ex- factory value.

1. M/s. Boehringer Knoll Ltd. Chloramphenicol (from 30 tonnes to 60 tonnes) Rs. 200 lakhs.

2. Do. Phenformin Hcl— 1 tonne Rs. 5 lakhs.

3. M/s. Suhrid-Geigy Ltd. Parazoledin tablets —240 lakh Nos. Rs. 35*2 lakhs.

4. Do. Imipramine & its salts—3000 kgs. Rs. 37-86 lakhs.

5. Do. Carbamizapine (From 1200 kgs. to 5000 kgs.) Rs. 77* 35 lakhs.

Track Modernisation Statement

2695. DR. P. V. PERI AS AMY: Will List of track routes proposed to be adop- the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- ted for track modernisation. ed to state: (i) New Delhi to Howrah. (ii) New Delhi to Bombay Central by Fron- (a) the trunk routes taken up under tier Mail route. intensive programme of track modernisation; and (iii) New Delhi to Madras Central by Grand Trunk route. (b) the salient features of the (iv) Howeah—Nagpur—Bombay V.T. scheme in this regard and the esti- (v) Allahabad—Jabalpur. mated cost of the master plan for modernising track structure? (vi) I tarsi—Bhusawal. / (vii) Kalyan—Pune—Dhond—Wadi— THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Secunderabad—Kazipet. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (1mi) Kharagpur—Waltair—Bezwada. SHEO NARAIN) : (a) A list of trunk (ix) Wadi—Raichur—Arkonam—Madras outes included in track modernisation Central. programme is enclosed. (x) Howrah—Bandel—Burdwan. (b) The salient features of Track (xi) Khanna—Barharwa over the Farakka Modernisation are use of heavier rails, Bridge—Malda Town Barsoi—New welding of rail joints, laying of con- Jalpaiguri. crete sleepers and elastic fastenings, (xii) Sitarampur— Madhupur — Kiul— increase of sleeper density and ballast Patna—Mughalsarai. cushion, tie-temping by mechanical (jc iii) Kiul—Sahibganj—Barharwa. methods, monitoring of Permanent Way by Track Recording and Oscil- (xw) Delhi—Ambala Cantt.—Kalka. lograph Cars for an accurate and ob- («>) Ambala Cantt.—Ludhiana—Pathan- jective assessment of track parameters kot. Ultrasonic detection of rails for hidden (xvi) Ambala Cantt.,—Moradabad— flaws, improved methods of traek Lucknow—Pratapgarh—M ughalsarai. maintenance etc. etc. About 14,000 (xvii) Arkonam—Katpadi—Jalparpet— Kms, of track is earmarked for such Saleem—Erode—Coi mbatore. modernisation in the Railway Corpo- (xviii) Baroda—Ahmedabad. rate Plan at an approximate cost of Rs. 750 crores. (xix) Jalarpet—Bangalore Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

Fay and Allowances of the Managing was not approved by this Department Director of Dunlop (India) Limited nor any remuneration was sanctioned to him by this Department. He has 2696. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: been appointed as a non executive Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE Director of Bata India Ltd. on 2-6-77 AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleas- and is entitled for drawal of sitting ed to state: fee of Rs. 250/- for each Board ,*neet- ing attended by him. (a) the pay, allowances and other perks which Mr. M. M. Sabherwal, No approval of the Central Govern- Managing Director, Dunlop (India) ment was accorded under the provi- Ltd., Calcutta was getting at the time sions of Companies Act for his ap- he left this Company to join the Dun- pointment as Director by Dunlop In- lop (International) as Director, his ternational Ltd. which is a foreign salary and allowances and perks there; body corporate having its registered office in London with no place of busi- (b) the post at which he originally ness in India. joined the Dunlop and pay and allo- (d) Apart from Bata India Ltd. Shri wances and perks drawn by him then; Sabherwal is a non executive Direc- (c) the manner in which his ap. tor in M/s Fibreglass Pilkington Ltd. and is entitled to sitting fee of Rs. pointment as Director of Bata India 250/- per meeting attended. Ltd., was made and approved by his Ministry and the remuneration and perks attached to this post and whe- Review Committee of the Institute of ther Government’s approval to his Constitutional and Parliamentary taking up Directorship with the Studies Dunlop (International) was obtained; 2697. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: and Witt the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE '(d) of which other Companies he AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be plea- i ’ the Director and his remuneration sed to refer to the reply given to and perks, drawn in that capacity? Unstarred Question No. 5760 on the 2nd August, 1977 and state: THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (a) whether the Review Committee SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) Shri M. M. of the Institute of Constitutional and Sabherwal, when he retired, as Joint Parliamentary Studies has submitted Managing Director of Dunlop India its report; Ltd., was entitled to a salary of (b) what are the main recommen- Rs. 7,500/- per month, 1|2 per cent dations; and commission on the net profits of the company subject to a maximum of (c) the action taken by the Gov- Rs. 45,000 per annum and the perqui- ernment thereon? sites of Company’s contribution to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Provident Fund, Company’s contribu- THE MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE tion to Pension/superannuation Fund, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Gratuity, Medical benefits, leave, leave NARSINGH YADAV): (a) Yes, Sir. Travel concession and free furnished accommodation. (b) The main Recommendations of the Review Committee are as under: (b) Shri Sabherwal originally joined the company as a trainee on Dec- (i) The Institute should con- ember 9, 1942 on a monthly salary of fine its activities to the field of Rs. 75/-. Constitution and Parliamentary Stu- dies and abandon those activities (c) Shri Sabherwal’s appointment which are not directly relatable to in M/s. Bata India Ltd. as a Director its objectives. 95 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 96

(ii) Institutional arrangements from voting as a protest against long should be made to prevent the In- standing neglect of their grievances; stitute from deviating from its priorities and objectives through ad (b) whether Government have en- hex: foreign grants. quired into the nature of grievances; (iii) The Institute should not ac- if so, details thereof; cept without prior approval of the Government any grant/donation (c) what and how many of these from any foreign or Indigenous grievances fall within the jurisdic- source; or engage any foreign con- tions of Centre and State, as also in sultant to advise in its working. concurrent List; and The funds/deposits in foreign banks should be transferred to India. (d) what steps have been taken (iv) The Institute should amend since the said abstention from voting its Memorandum of Association took place? and Rules for effecting structural changes and improvements in its THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE management and day-to-day acti- MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND vities. COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI NAR- SINGH YADAV): (a) to (d). The (v) The Institute should frame required information is being col- comprehensive xules governing lected and will be laid on the Table inter alia recruitment, conditions of the House. of service, allocation of responsibility etc. in respect o* its employees. , armiwff 3 rH | sfk 5^ The same have been forwarded to the n i l 'l l if 5TTT fspcprt rrftr Instittue for their comments and their final acceptance is awaited.

Abstention from voting In a West (w ) wt iif t sr^rr Bengal Constituency it 4)W*I< % f® oqimftjili % w 2698. SHRI SASANKASEKHAR SANYAL: Will the Minister of LAW, ^ H ^ ^ JUSTICE AND CAMPANY AFFAIRS t *fk wt w | ? be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Central Govern- JteTWT H TTW («ft f>(W ment are aware that during the *ITW*) : {%) 30-9-1977 1977 Parliamentary Election, voters of Anchal Jhilli within Khargiam ssrfir % Police Station of Murshidabad Dis- ?r TC fkWTOHhT TWf trict in West Bengal falling within 53, 059 36,263 Jangipur Parliamentary Constituency of West Bengal en bloc abstained 1 £7 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

?rft (^r) v fk ft, eft q r ^nqj T^T *TT% f 1% f e f $ ferr |?rr qpft ^ c t p ^ r r f Pr t

Pt»a«fl srwRHt % m w faster ^pt t w | ? *m«ft ®FT f . SJ^TT % ^T^'st TT V 3 - T S K s*qflf^ flff |J ^fff% ^ lyvim ^ t t kt ^ («ft ftw 3êT % ^M*fl if «Ft TTftr ^T \3?%^r 5TTrni«r) : (^) *ftr (^r). ^m ftt ^ fteff f I #feT, TTaff 5PT Pttott qr qt% ^t qnV «fk ^rq> ft *rnt % «n^, w t r TTftr *rffer ftrn | i wf^rrr *r eMcl ^3T *fl*Hi »T^t 4* h«i f?^T ^Tpt % 9Tm?V w ^ *T*ft «ft ferir^ fq j^ r h i^ i i «n i f e ^ *Tf^ %^T Hid 5fTT f^TMdl<| ^*)ni «IF^t H^q ^t ft 'jirt % t l ^ T lf ^ t ^TFTcf ?T^t T ft eft F+>?d^ ^ f e n w i ^Rtft# 3TWT «TT ^r 3TH TOTrf 5Tmgr frthr?r S ¥t-w Hf n?y 2700. «r> : wr ^ ^ 3 f 3TcTT% 3>t f>qT <*>07 ft» : 2 7 01. TW ^TRIFT : WT (^ ) WT g^frTT ^T°T *T <=tl ^ ^rrf sq-^TPTT ?T ft% % WTRTT *Ren ^t w ^Tf ^ | ^ftrur ^ p - m tfkm f t f V | ; % T m r ffsft^R ^ szrf^TJff ^rfem^rr + szrfenn ^ t ^t* (?f) ^ *nc*ftf (Vt ^37% q? qT q^têT ^rwsa- 'SPT sn^ effa I HTl f e n ^TqT ^ t ; srft; t *t ^r fterr | ; (*i) ^ ^TT’n I ; (*r) ^ tt fer?r irrr (*r) w ^r ^ r fqr«rr»r grr r qpft ^Ft *rrqr ¥ t ofpft spn +i4«nft ^rr Tft | ? szft qsroftf ^f^?TT qr *rrct w torf qf^ % ^r? îsrsrf *nsr fcrrr «rsmw w TT& r woft («ft fw ^PTT ^TT ; ?^T ?TTTnT«T) : (^ ) sfV ^ I 2856 L.S.—4 J 99 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers i oo (W) (Tt) . ST*T irff TOIT I JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS ' v be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the First Law Commission in its report wptfoif % ®'r? wvrarfrtf *nram dated 1st August, 1956 had proposed that the High Court should sit in 1% % Benches at different places in a State and that no action was taken on this 2702. «ft firftr, ?ara report by previous Governments; (b) are the Government aware that 5 ’TT ; as the High Courts at present are situated in capitals of the States the (*p) w t ^ *nr i ft: sp*qft*ff if poor litigants are unable to approach % mPc'tw^w smsnfrm the High Courts because of financial WTO % *T'far ftWT ITT T^T | ; w k difficulties; (c) whether the Government pro- (a) sfc ?rt t h Jr pose to implement the above proposal SRT W R lft ^ of Law Commission and in the real sense implement the present policy of ? Government to give legal aid to the poor; and f*fa, arm vw«ft fr? *ieft (d) if not, the reasons for the same? (*ft VTlfoj H « ) : (v ) ?t, «fr®TT^ ^ I T O VRfW t if fM*-H ^TrTT

| *Wq| ^ f l— ^iT'S^ «m <^sli^ it ^l^fl tit* wt^-sfW iprftrRt ^vj m z ft% % ^»l

(^ ) mprrfm ) *rfe*r, ^rrwn: *rk Will the Minister of LAW, JtTSTICE *rt7^ if f^ r ^r^r ff AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to refer to the following state- tfk ^ f % ftsft v t ft^TT ment at page 83 of the Ministry's ’HTT I I 1935^5^^ +K^NT faTfldl Annual Report for 1976-77; and T^ff 5PT *r^ ^ *f (3) Barring a few, Government 1 — 4—1948 ^ Companies by and large were found to have complied with the provisions ?rfH K ir $ fk m i 5- 11-1951 of Companies Act, 1956, and state: ^ VR9T% qfN^r ^ r t ^tt i^f *pt (a) the names of Government Com- ? R ^ r 1 panies reported therein which have failed to comply with the provisions (**) srk (*r). sr^r ?rff ^ i t 1 of the Con^>anies Act, 1956 and the (*r) *frr*r w p p h : srfc nature of violations; and ^RT ®m ^<9mlr nc^M vt (b) the steps taken against those Government companies? ^ tf ^rtsFrr ^ 1 THE -MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE x h f r t :— f^wn^-^ft^rr-TtT- AND COMPANY' AFFAIRS (SHRI <**<< WS % ^TT^T S ITRTR MPi4dH SHANTI SHUSHAN): (a) and (b)'. At page 83 of the report in para % ^rrwrx Tffer rn^r t * ^ r 135(1) it is stated that the total num- t ^ht *ftr a«r «M< far© on 30th September, 1976 wtts 674. Out *ft° |T ft*RT fTTT ^ *TPTT *11^11 *At of these, it is reported that 94 com- *f^i vjw*fMi i f t ^ 15*1 % h i4^i0 grTTsfair taken thereon are given in the sta- xnent laid on the Table of the House. f^[% ^n5w f^lft 5R»TT TOft [Placed in Library. See No. LT— I 1271/77]. 103 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

WoTT fafWST wf ^ftroft % m ^rorr | eft ^ f^ fT t m^T % feTT% 2|ft f TlO : SRTT ^fw«Er | i ^*^0" ^TfT ®TcTT% ^?t ^TT + <^1 t f^pft t TfereR ^<4 ^TT (^) ^TT SW* f^rhff 2Ftf SFeTR ^ | I * t * t f r o teflr I ; Move to Increase Oil Prices by OPEC (^r) vfe ?r, eft sftrr sprr Countries

I ; *frc 2707. SHRI D. D. DESAI: SHRI M. KALYANASUN- (*r) ¥TT f^TR ? ( # DARAM: 3r qfc^nr ^ ^r | DR. HENRY AUSTIN: SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE ^rft^F % «^faet firrr PATIL: J Vfemrf % W foTReT ^T ^TPR- ^5T Will the Minister of PETROLEUM *rf ? AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to stete: *irrair * t t o *sft («ft firor (a) whether Government are aware mrnm) : (^) ?r i of the move of the OPEC countries to increase further oil prices by 15 per (^T) ( it ) fir^TFT f^RTFT ^Ft cent, in 1978; and ^ % * m ^rftFvT^ff *rot ^tferf (b) if so, what steps are being con- % l^ltT ZTT^T *f fc«rHTel ^ t ^fqyT sidered to prevent any further rise in domestic prices of petroleum products? OTTSf t i*% W T aiPw ?PHt ^rhRTT % «rR *r f^fV f^ F ^ n r -f^ R t THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- fa P M i* st^r t *rc*nrt t t o t SERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): % snmrr^ swferer *tt^ (a) The Oil Producing and Export- % *TW 3T^cT ^ I ^f ing Countries are scheduled to meet at Caracas in Veneuzela on the 20th *rrar % fwer fW t ?rh: ^rftroft December, 1977 when the question ^fat % far* st^pt -st ^pt of oil prices will come up for consideration. It would be premature, i s Mfetsier ^ f o r m at this stage, to say whether and, if faffieft ^ I *T 3T3T % so, to what extent there could be any ^>4^ <>ft ^Ft ^'3f t *Ust % further increase in the price of crude oil from January, 1978. M\< % f%7T*t ®Pt f^TR^T 3TTeft I I (b) Does not arise.

ST^TRT ST%% 5T*RT srpRTsft •4 k % tfPT ^TT^T 3TI% W ^iftd 2 708- 3To HWfcTKIW

(^r) q»T * T r ^ r ifeffr ( « ft f< r * 'drMKH % ftrtr

| ? *rr Tft | srtr * p t t q^r qr ^ ^ 1 ifcetfcwr fftr w i i r er*n TrHT («ft fw): Proposal to run Express Train from Haldia to Delhi (q>) 1977-78 % ^TPT % xjeqi^r qrr 22^rra- *fTo ^ ^rr^ft- 2710. DR. BIJOY MONDAL: Will ?fk 7 ^rrer *fto ^ w f e | i the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

(^r) % 'deHlsH % dO°bl (a) whether there is any proposal ^ SPTTeTTT ^TTeft | eTTfa ^?T for running an express train from Haldia (West Bengal) to Delhi in ^ferr^ff ^t q^TT ^nrnn ^ view of the importance gained by ^TvM 3eM~K*l ^tf*RT ft^rreTT ^ sftr Haldia due to construction of Petro- chemical Complex and other indus- ■qferr^sff qr qo«r qi% % ftnr qfk°r^r i tries; and *\?ft*T«\ ^ ^mr-fNwn^r ^ q ; 3% ifVmfw* ^FTHT ?TT?TT% ^TW I (b) if so, whether the train will run via Kharagpur and Asansol which is the shortest route?

fqRFTgT * ^ri ^ *rro THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 2709* «ft *re* : t o t SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. *Tf «ldrt «Ft f»qT f% : (b) Does not arise.

(qr) t o t *if f f% 3ftr*r *rw O ^rwff x t t t grown qr «w ^ t ^ r t t h t ^ »rf TiftT qrr% if srenre TfT | ; 2711. i?m j* n r nresft s (^r) ft, eft M l^qd q>wf % w t if^fvnM r ft> : spfhr q*n ^ ; (Wi) 4*11 ttwlO ■ai^>*i'l ^ ♦tpliiiM (*r) *rf sft | ft) % qRvi % Pi5*1 TT 1T9TOT feffaR froif ^ftrt ^ w rm e ^T^ if sft m m Tfr t ; ?rk

(*r) ft, eft ^r% w t + k «i (m) jrfr ft, ?r> fe?Rt nftr ^ f *j*r q>r% ^ i P w l % \j(H^t ^RTTWFft qr, p5RT% *>KUI ^rt snrt frfr § f , *r t «r»Kqif ^t qjtfw w wh: t «t w * ?r«n n?eft fa^TT I sfk ^eT vrtwrf ^ eiqr ^t («ft ^ *n ): (*p) «fk ^ f t ? («■) x s m ?rk ^3# ^ jf^ n r % 107 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

fimWTEfhT fKW-O O Tftf IFT TOTT cf^ «HI*V % f%T£ *TFT^t % *H4iR f?f ?R»fV ^ fd ^ i *rft ;t fk 2RT^ TOTSfTOT ST^TT JTT^ % 30,955.21 TTftr ©TO f^TT (^T) qft fT, eft t t i^df % ^rnr ^nn% ?w t ^*t% TOTSP? * TTTO TOV («ft fiTO fTOa«i sftr % f^ r s r % 5TTTm»f): (sf) ^fV ft I w T *Y sr^hft $ f^ r *ft^f % *tct% qr f o n w « n i ^T^ft % ^■RT+rtt (^ ) ?nft d*t> mw* % f%rr 3*T% ?RT ^TSTRTT TOT «TT I t f t «®R^TT if ^TTO W qf

ftf rftiTO tflr t s t t o t o t (b) whether multi-nationals are TOT^ft % VRrfTO TOT ^T% still not producing basic medicines but *rfwft % from-^TR ^ft ^tt^ % are largely manufacturing formu- ftft swrft sr?r % w w f sixr lations and non-drug items; and 5TO ^ fiPTT TOT «TT I (c) whether Government have , received complaints that these companies & «WT TO* HIT* produced in excess of their permitted capacity to make huge profits? 2712 . «ft :TOT ^Ff THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM *rat ^ t>HT ^»^T 1% • AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (w) TOT ^ t f^ % (a) and (b). The annual production *T5?TT jftcft f f SPTT *jf^T of drugs by the foreign companies 109 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers n o

and Indian companies during the last three years has been as under: (Rs. in crores)

Bulk Drugs Formulations

*974-75 1975-76 1976-77 1974-75 1975-76 1976-77 (Est.) (Est.)

Foreign .... 34 52 63 203 300 292

Indian/Public Sector/& Small Scale Sector . . . 56 78 87 197 260 408

T o t a l . . . . 90 130 150 400 560 700

It would be oberved from the above (b) whether we are self-sufficient table that the ratio of the value of in the production of Naptha? Bulk Drug production to formulations produced by the foreign companies THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM in 1976-77 was 1:4.6 as compared to AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- 1:6 in 1975-76. The value of pro- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): duction of Bulk Drugs increased in (a) Yes, Sir. 1976-77, while that 0f formulations (b) Presently the indigenous pro- declined. duction of Naphtha is not adequate to meet the full demand. The short- In accordance with the selective fall is, therefore, met by imports. policy adopted by the Government to regulate expansion of the foreign com- Non-AvailabUity of Fmentlal and panies, industrial licences are ordi- Life Saving Drngg narily not issued to foreign firms for producing formulations unless 2715. SHRI K. MALLANNA:Will linked with the production of bulk the Minister of PETROLEUM AND drugs. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (c) Some cases of excess production by the foreign companies (a) whether in spite of the hue and beyond their licensed capacities cry from the medical profession non- have come to the notice of the Gov- availability of essential an£ life sav- ernment. The Hathi Committee on ing drugs like Penicillin are not avail- Drugs & Pharmaceutical Industry have able to the profession; made certain recommendations as to the manner in which excess pro- (b) whether widely used anti- duction beyond authorised/licensed leprosy drugs—Dapsone and common capacities should be treated. These drugs like Thuroid pose a problem in are under consideration of Govern- maintaining therapy because of its ment and a decision is likely to be non-availability; taken theron soon. (c) whether the only drug that could be used for Malaria—Prima- Production of Naptha quine is also not freely available; and 2714. SHRI P. RAJGOPAL NAIDU: (d) if so, the steps Government pro- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM pose to take in this regard? AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (a) whether Naptha is being pro- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): duced in our country; and (a) and (b). Even though there has I l l Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 112

been overall increase in the pro- As against the availability of Rs. 560 duction of essential bulk drugs in- crores worth of formulations in 1975- cluding Dapsone during 1976-77 as 76, the availability during 1976-77 was compared to 1975-76, shortage of cer- of the order of Rs. 700 crores. The tain brands of medicines do occur availability of drugs during 1977-78 from time to time in certain parts is expected to increase further. Min- of the country. istry of Chemicals & Fertilizers are specifically monitoring the production There was a slight shortfall in the of 25 essential items. To augment the production of Penicillin by Antibio- availability of drugs further, substan- tics Plant, I.D.P.L., Rishikesh due to a strike at their Plant. Sufficient tial expansion in the public sector undertakings is being encouraged in quantities of Dapsone tablets have a planned manner. been made availalbe to Government Agencies. Saloons in each Railway Zone The production of Thyroid tablets is based on imported bulk drugs. 2716. DR. V. A. SEYID MUHAM- These tablets were not available in MAD: Will the Minister of RAIL- certain parts of the country for some- WAYS be pleased to state: time but imported stocks have now been received and supplies are be- (a) what is the number of Saloons ing restored. being maintained in each zone of Rail- ways; and (c) Sufficient stocks of Primaquine Tablets are also freely available in (b what is the purpose for which the market, as also stocks of other these coaches are maintained? anti-malaria. Primaquine is not the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE only anti-malarial drug. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (d) Availability of drugs has been SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). A gradually improving in the country. statement is attached.

/ I j 3

I («) wbfT qj hsfectien Ceniegts maintained \rim each ^Railway as on 31-3-1977. rte Answers Written OQ O o o e ce bo i S> 3 fc o * <01 I SS/S £ a X (2 " PQI 3 •si II * o s 8 « eo « « > >*« w o> GAAAA 15, 1899 ( AGRAHAYANA tfj m - - at *"• M f K * cf SAKA * ) Written Answers Written I 1

114 115 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers n 6

Establishment of offices for . Drilling (b) the progress and achievement Operations by ONGC made in the drilling operations at 2717. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- Basin, Ratnagiri (Maharashtra) and DIT: Will the Minister of PETRO- Tanuku High (Andhra Pradesh)? LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- TILIZERS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (a) at which places the Oil and AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Natural Gas Commission established ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): offices to carry out drilling operations (a) The requisite inormation is as during the last three years; and under:

On-shore operations.

Project Location of the pro- State ject headquarters

Srinagar Valley . . Srinagar J. & K. (Office now shifted to Jwalamukhi after completion of drilling operations in Srinagar Valley)

Ramshahr . Chandigarh Union Territory of Chandigarh.

Kangra Valley . Jwalamukhi Himachal Pradesh.

Sikhar (Sub Project) . • • Silchar Assam.

Puranpur . Pilibhit U. P.

Narasapur .... •• Rajahmundry Andhra Pradesh. t

(b) The ONGC has so far drilled seven exploratory wells in North Bassein and three exploratory wells in South Bassein, Crude oil has been 2718. WTT 3TOC? : discovered in North Bassein and the exploratory drilling in South Bassein has proved the presence of non-associated gas.

In Ratnagiri offshore area, one ex- fafads STtT ploratory well was drilled and ab- andoned due to drilling complications. ^TTftcT ftnr Exploratory drilling on another well in the area is in progress, but so 3TT fcpFT ftPTT TRT ft ft, eft far no presence of oil or gas has be6n indicated. «iO'jHiKIsm?T *f 1^3cl

No drilling operations have been taken up in or around Tanuku in Andhra Pradesh. 117 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers n&.

qztfHOT tot sAt ^ sfir ft, eft effrr to 5? w t («ft f*rarft % ^ T I ^fcFT tnrg- ^ ir ^ fx z ff % fcnj f w w[^ ^ ^ T fao, TH3T t q>K^qRT c\ m rsm en f % fircr ^rrfiRr % fin? *nar fa^r *mnn ? t«T*mife ^TCTftSR % *TO STTTOta TfT t I TTTO- ^T^TT % *brrm * r m ftrw qrrew & **t r % sttt $ sntft fro*r m v m J Zfft fdH % froT 'JiHi ^ i 3% fwq; iiM

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM the Drug Industry during the last AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- three years have been as under; irom ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): which it would be seen that the ratio (a) Date on life-saving drugs alone of both bulk drugs and formulations is not available. However the an- between the foreign and Indian Sec- nual valules of production of drugs tors in 1975-76 is approximately 3:4. manufactured by various Sectors of

Bulk Drugs Formulations

1974" 75 1975-76 19 76-77 1974-75 1975-76 1976-77 (Est.) (Est.)

Foreign .... 34 52 63 203 300 292 Indian including Public/Small Scales Sector. 56 78 87 197 260 408

T o t a l .... 90 130 150 400 560 700

(b) The following measures to en- from more basic stages and to make courage the expansion of the public/ available a suitable portion of their Indian Sectors and the regulate the. bulk drugs production to non-asso- expansion of the foreign sector are ciated formulators in the country .being taken:— as a cnodition for permitting expansion in capacity or taking up (i) An indicative categorization new activity; Appropriate export of drugs has been drawn up where- obligations are also imposed where by certain drugs shall be reserved considered necessary. for exclusive manufacture by the Public/Indian Sectors alone; Use of Naptha by Petro-Chemical (ii) The Indian Sector of the Complex at Haldia Industry is given preference in approval of manufacturing sche- 2722. SHRIMATI PARVATHI KRI- *mes; SHNAN: Will the Minister of PET- (iii) Manufacture of increasing ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND number of bulk drugs through pub- FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: lic sector undertakings; (a) whether petro-chemical com- (iv) Industrial Licences are plex of Haldia is planned to make use usually not issued to foreign firms of naptha from Haldia refinery; for producing formulation unless linked with the production of bulk (b) if so, whether Government’s drugs; whereas Indian Firms are attention has been drawn to a news allowed additional formulation ca- item appeared in ‘Business Standard' pacity, unconnected with manufac- captioning *No Haldia naptha for local ture of Bulk Drugs, within certain units*; and parameters; (v) Foreign firms are asked to (c) if so, what is the Government’s "take up production of bulk drugs reaction thereto? 121 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 122,

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM *■ been introduced during the current AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- financial year: — ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (1) Nos. 91/92 Tatanagar-Muzaf- (a) Depending on the requirement of farpur Express (Triweekly). the complex, Naptha will be supplied both from the Haldia Refinery as also (2) Nos. 135/136 Madras Egmore- from other sources. Madurai Vaigai Express (6 days in a week). (b) No, Sir. (3) Nos. 69/70 Kacheguda-Ajmer (c) Does not arise. Express (Biweekly). (4) Nos. 29/30 Tirupati-Hyedera- Registration of Foreign Finns to ope- bad Rayalseema Express (daily). rate in India (5) Nos. 59/60 Bombay VT-How- rah Gitanjali Express (Biweekiy). 2723. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND (b) Proposals for introduction o f COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to trains during 1978-79 have not yet state: been finalised. (a) whether it is a fact that some o f the foreign firms have recently Proposal to Increase speed of Utkal sought permission to operate in India; Express and Kalinga Express (b) whether they have applied for 2725. SHRI JENA BAIRAGI: Will the registration, if so, to which coun- the Minister of RAILWAYS be Diea- tries these companies belong; sed to state: (c) how many such companies (a) whether there is any proposal have been allowed to operate in India to increase the speed of Utkal Express- during the current year; and and Kalinga Express running between Puri and Nizamuddin, Delhi; (d) whether any foreign company was registered in 1976 also? (b) whether Dining Cars are not attached to these two trains; and THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (c) if so, reasons therefor? AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) to (d). THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The information is being collected MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and will be laid on the Table of the SHEO NARAIN): (a) None at pre- House. sent. (b) Yes. Introduction of Janata Classless Trains (c) Adequate facilities are available from static catering units en- 2724. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH: route to cater to the needs of travel- Will the Minister 0f RAILWAYS be ling public. Furthermore attaching o f pleased to state: Dining cars will lead to reduction (a) the number and details of in the passenger accommodation which, Janata Classless trains introduced is not desirable. during the current financial year; and 3TOH ) TOT 31 1977 ^ fast long distance trains having only second class accommodation have ^ 4*1*1 'IT Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 124

he would be having discussions with c[?R ^ 3TPET STPfffi Labour Organizations on the prob- *jt ^rpprftr *nn sfa lems of railway employees, discussions were held recently on these ( ^ ) *rfe gr, eft w t ^rhr fafts outstanding demands with the two recognised Federations, viz., the All STT^T ft ^*Ft I tfk ^ w t TTXT *JT* oqT^^I India Railwaymen’s Federation and % wr ^T^^rrft ^?t *r^ the National Federation of Indian Railwaymen and also with certain Members of Parliament connected with ^ m * t t o *fsft («ft fti* railway labour along with trade union- ■*!W l) : (^) tft, ft I ists who accompanied them, in order to explore what concrete measures could be taken towards fostering a (*a) srfa *rfaf?r % % proper industrial relations ciimate on u ^ r r r , 5^3 tt ^t ^ ^nNnrWt the Railways and the position in res- ¥Y Weft «ft 1 ^Wt vihnfkiff % pect of the oustanding demands was ^T^RT mWRTeTRT +lW ft explained to them. 3?t «IT Tfft ^ I Complaints about the Fertilizers produced in Cooperative Sector Alleged Unrest among Indian Railwaymen 2728. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: Win the Minister of PETROLEUM 2727. SHRI M. KALYAN SUN- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS DARAM: be pleased to state: DR. HENRY AUSTIN: (a) whether there are complaints Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be about the fertilizers manufactured in pleased to state: the cooperative sector; / (a) whether representations have (b) if so, the nature of the com- been received from Railway Trade plaints; and Unions for initiating discussions on the demands made by the N.C.C.R.S. (c) steps taken to remedy and in 1974 which are still pending un- improve the quality of the fertilizers resolved; manufactured in cooperative sector?

(b) whether Government are aware THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE o f the growing unrest among Indian MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Railwaymen; and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI JANESHWAR MiSHRA): (a) (c) what steps he proposes to take and (b). No specific complaints have to settle the matter amicably through been received by the Government of negotiations? India in regard to the quality of fer- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tilizers manufactured in the coopera- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI tive sector. SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). Repre- sentations have been made by various (c) Quality control on fertilizers organizations of railway employees marketed in the country is enforced not only with regard to the unresol- under the provisions of the Fertilizer ved issues out of the demands made (Control) Order, 1957, administered by the N.C.C.R.S. in 1974 but on other by the State Governments. In order demands as well. In pursuance of to ensure speedy enforcement of the the statement made by the Minister quality control, as also of the other for Railways in the Parliament that provisions of the Fertilizer Control 125 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 126

Order, the fertilizers have been de- fwftr, *rnx iftr wm wwt clared an essential commodity and the State Governments have been em- («ft vrrfer w * ) : (*) 1975-76 powered to initiate summary trials % SRT eT^T, ^RTCT t l^ft 1 7 1 against offenders. I fiR # Complaint against Indian Red Cross ^ JTf^T ^f, ST^tT ffTFSTT 'p ft Society 5 0 ST%9RT % VftnF, tTSFT^t 2729. DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: f^nnr f^rnr g m snfer «rr i 1975- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be 76 pleased to state: 5Rt T <£3ft 3 1 1 .6 3 (a) whether a complaint has been ^TTftr*?t*ft, 195. 74 vft? lodged against the Indian Red Cross Society, regarding misuse of its pri- SFt TTftr ^rP-ERT fciivD vilege of sending its goods free of ^H*ft % TRT I ^TTTrft 5TR f^TT*T freight, by passenger trains anywhere % TRT s?*T ^rqfrift ®Pt in India; and *1^*1 f>R% 5 0 sfiTCRT (b) what action has, so far, been % ^ 5nftr«r» M in taken on the complaint? Th ^ih c T ^ r r r r , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE fq^ftiq'f jttt snfTeT | 1 MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. A com- (sr) 1975-76 % 171 plaint has been reecived about alle- ff ^r, 161, f3T?T% ged misuse of Railway concession by the Red Cross Society, Haryana ^PT-'T^’ '3TTvT®cT ff, 5TTT Branch, Chandigarh. +ht^*rf ^rnr^tTTftr, 2 i9 .4 8 ^ r t f eft, qi^TrTfrnr 79.51 (b) The matter is still under investigation. *O «TT | 1975-76 % ftrT H3M4 STTTT %nft ^ T T % 50 sficvrar srfcn? qfaft wisft s h it t t , ^rsqforf s t t t fiWpWl ^ mwhr TTftr, 12. 48 ^ • 2730. : WT firfe, « ld A frift waN W f «t t gr^T wM h f.^TT f% : 2731. «ft : WT (*r) mrer ferfV if^ft fir : f so & (^ ) ^ tt it? ^ t % ^rwrn: m t | fro ir ^ m t ^ f f q r jsr faetft fzfcwt 5 ^ 1 ? r fw ^ 5^TT T^t | ; f t t ; « f K (^r) ^rfe 5ft ?nr crt Pi5 Vi4^1 ^TT ?ftT % f^a«ii ?rnr srfifcr %*rr xftr % ferrt TTftr s^r?t (^r) ^rfir ?r Tf, eft ^ f r g ^ r r iW* ? Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 128

*r x m w t («ft ftra (^■) >3*13>l 'T^rfir % ^TT •U W 4 ) : (*>) aft, i S^ftTT W I ?

( « ) sftT (»r). fTWT HfiPTPT irnrw if t t o *rft («ft fir* % srnr ) %fiX (*sT). ^HT ^nhrr 1 $<*)d<£t 3?t ^T Tft ^ i(1< ^THT 4iH

2732. ^ W W ®PfnT : WT fir?*ft riVr nfMtrwnr, s^rosTfr sftr fcr*reff *rf flirirt f^n ft) : fw if % vtw tilil^

2734. «ft ftf* *fl 3T^mRSTRT W ^PRTft *r£ $; ^ 15—20 qf^r ^Tfhfhj^r^, sfk ittK [k4\{ ft^ft % ^ ( ^ ) *T*RT *Pt If ^irr Hl^*i S1TT ^T9TOTW W cRT 3ft» ftfSf 5 fM ? ftrnT ^r ?ftr ^r ^ ^tt^ t ^TT lit ft^R fiPTT W, «ftT qft ft, ^ if TTW? w ft («ft ftp* cft^r ir mft ^ spn vmrft- w r o w ) : (*r) srk (^ ). vt ^ t ; / ^ r s 1 sr- % ^9R) % w att ?mff *rtr (^ ) W ^TfhftXRK ?flT ^nTJT- ^t% ff^sff % ^ tm h % %it ^r^r ?TfT % srfirfrfOTf % fFT ft ^f *TT^R % % fir^RT, ?ftr ^TW ^T U,0^ ?TTCR’ *n*T era, I^ trt^ *t wrt\v ftn 1 ^ j ^ftr fiwr *m | 1 ?rft ft*ft 5RHT 5T9[f^qt ffift

H^IW if TT^T w ft (^Tt ftR 2 7 33 «ft fa f VjVtfrm : ?TRm ) : (m) ?fk ^Tft- «WI *Toft ^Tf «tni*^ ^T f^TT ^IT ^flTRT^ fT^T fo^ft % ^T^ f% : t^FT ^ft$ % f ^ ftTTrT ^f (^ ) *TTCcft* ^ ff if W f ^ jt- ^ tf ^Tft ft^TT WT «TT I %ft^T, ^rfoit (^fW^r) *m r fo^ ft 1927-28 % ftTR q^T, ^TM?f fe^rf, ^nrr^fT ?ftr ^fhftxRR % 129 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

(® ) «hii hR^m ^ii % f^rr tt^7 Ajidi^id ferr w r ^ I W K 4cTI

Popularity of ‘Nutan’ Stove SfTZt snft if WTpT VF ftr^nr 2737. SHRI G. S. REDDI: Will the 2735. Tto IJHo : ^TT Minister of PEROLEUM AND CHEMI- ^ r *5Rft ?Tf ^TT% f^TT f% : CALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (*r) W ^TOTfcPT, TTiRiTT, (a) whether the Indian Oil Corpo- ^fa%*r tftr 5f) ?Tft I THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS («3) S&1 ?Tff ^SeTT I (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA (a) Yes, Sir.

Indian Railways Act, 1890, application for compensation can be preferred within a period of 3 months 2 7 39- : W of the occurrence of the accident but ^ f^TT ^71 f% : the Claims Commissioner may on good cause shown allow any application to be made at any time within one year (^■) w r of the occurrence of the accident. (^»ft |) These claims are satisfied on the basis of the verdict of the court without any 5^ "PT Wf*RT fe n delay on the part of the Railway ad- m i tfk ministration. However, no time limit has been fixed for settlement of claims (^ ) eft m 1977-78 arising out of train accidents. if Pin’bl

They are lodged with the Ad-Hoc Pi h Ri Rsig stzY ^rt ^rffr Claims Commissioner/Ex. Officio Claims Commissioner, as the case may ^rr^ff *r % f^q; be. There are 220 claims cases under ^ f e n m i | :— the Indian Railways Act 1890 pending finalisation with Ad-Hoc Claim Com- 1. ^ rf^ m % missioners/Ex-Officio. Claims Com- 2. ^ jfm x s f r c missioners for more than 4 months. 3. i^pn: & fircy^i

^91 % ^TO>T HI W ^ tt awT i r wwK sftort snrff % Pi -hT^i vt w itv n tfi % *k +K VT^TcT ^ T?7^ W ^^nftnp m t % 2 741* SjfiRTR Wl : ^TT §»T hR ^ i I^ Tt f^P^TT *Tf srtt% ^ f^T f% : tfarc soften ft ft i

(^P) W t^ lM T m r i w j t , Parcel Handling work at Allahabad Prs’ ?rrfe f1% 2742. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY: H l^fl ^TT^fr Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 4R+K ^Ft STF^T J?TT * *? ’» (a) when there was no stipulation in the Agreement for supply of 110 men daily for performing parcel (^r) ft, m ^ qr *wrc handling work at Allahabad then why WT ^fd foil | cT^TT % records were maintained by Railway ^Tsfer^T fen | TOT staff for supply of labour by the So- ciety; ■fen *n TfT ^ lb) whether it is a fact that it was (*r) f*n %^shr ^ sncr within the knowledge of the Society that they are paid lumpsum payment l« records maintained by Railway Staff srnfiHMi ^ % s pr * ) *ft, ft 1 more than 60 to 70 labourers per day bat in order to syphon off the surplus money is showing attendance in (^ ) tfk (*r). PiHfaftw fictitious names; and «n^rf % f^nr s^faur f e t ^ f : (d) if so, whether any enquiry has been conducted together with details ( 1) ^Nt-^tf 1 thereof? ^ «Tft if iiHH 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ( 2) TPTJT-ffWTt SHEO NARAIN): (a) The Society, 135 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 136 according to the agreement, are requir- W Rt ¥^#t-+7^r|; ^fff%^ es TT T WTPT ^ Id I ^ f% Railway staff. fwfTO^ft % ^RRHRT ^ T cRT (c) No. ?t, ®FrnT % tfiMTiff sftr (d) Does not arise. f^srnr ^n^ft ^ t ^ w ^ t ^t 1 *t t h m fW f vnl t t w ? ^ f t ^tt^t ^nferr 2743. ‘f t ’ % m t, ^ft 'q ^ r %m\, q^r ^mt’ % % *r^t< *t> IH ^ |

ite V ws ‘ft’ % ^ % fair Total Strength of S.C. and 5.T. PWIs.

2744. SHRI R. L. KUREEL: Will the (^) w W ite % w f to t Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to % nref % fa r y tf state: ffen: ftrn I; *flr qft

if («ft fiflW (b) what is the total strength of efRm ) : (v), (sr) irk (»r). S.C. and S.T. P.W.Is. who were promoted to Grade 550—750, whether ^ ^ far w irk the reserved quota for SCs and STs w % snpnr ?TT*ft irw, is fulfilled; and tot mrfifi *Ft (c) if not, reasons therefor, who irs % inf tot Y irk W % were the responsible officers for not *ni < ft filling up the quota, what action is z v it | 1 dv W % fv

SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). The moted to grade Rs. 550—750 (R .S .) number of P.W. Is in grade Rs. 250— on Northern Railway is as under: 380 (AJ5.)/Rs. 425—700 (R.S.) pro-

Year Total S.C. S. f.

1975 ...... 12 1 1

19 76 . 25 6

1977 ...... 21 2

Quota reserved for Scheduled Castes has been fulfilled. (c) No Scheduled Tribe candidate standard suppliers, etc. For use in is available in the entire cadre of departmental units, good quality of tea P.W.Is in grade Rs. 425—700 (R.S.) for and,coffee is purchased from standard being considered for promotion to sources. On important trains, tea and grade Rs. 550—750 (R.S.). coffee are served in thermos flas>' so that passengers may get hot tea and coffee. Sale of only good quality of Quality of Tea and eatables etc. standard cold drinks is permitted in Sold on Railway Platform the Railway premises. Surprise in- spections and periodical checks are 2745. SHRI SUSHIL KUMAR DHA- carried out by Inspectors and officers RA: Win the Minister of RAILWAYS to ensure service of good quality of be pleased to state: tea, coffee, etc., to passengers bo I a by departmental as well as private catering units. Whenever failure on the (a) if the attention of Government part of catering staff or contractors has been drawn to the utterly mise- comes to notice, deterrent action ;s rable quality of tea ana other drinks including cold-drinks and sanacks be- taken to guard against such lapses in ing sold on the Railway platforms all future. Catering staff is sent for training to Catering Institutes in Bom- over the country; and bay, Calcutta Madras and Delhi etc. (b) whether any efforts are being made to improve the qualities of ffr qr gar drinks and eatables being served by Railway catering or private contra- 2746. «ft Tunft mm : ctors? *TT *rat 3?t fiTT f k : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JSHEO NARAIN):(a) Some complaints have been received about the quality % 5*r of tea, beverages, etc., served at Rail' way Stations.

(b) With a view to improve the quality of drinks and eatables, Rail- ways have taken a number of steps (sr) ft, eft wr x v zrz *tt such as setting up of 'base kitchens’ *T ft ^FT pT*TfoT on important routes, adoption of mo- dem culinary techniques provision of modern kitchen gadgets and equip- ( *r ) f t , ments, purchase of good quality of food articles and otter ingredients frqm W eR> fWT ? 139 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 140

if TTWf fiflW

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1980-81 is expected to be around 9 MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI million tonnes per annum. The full SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. potential of another recent offshore oil find in the structures South of (b) Yes. Bassein is yet to be fully assessed.

(c) and (d). No case was registered (c) The Oil and Natural Gas Com- either by the Haryana Police or the mission is planning to continue geo- Delhi Police on account of jurisdic- logical and geophysical surveys in tional dispute. The Ministry of Home Tamil Nadu. So far no commercial Affairs is being requested to direct the discoveries have been made there. concerned State Police to register this case and process investigations imme- Use of Hindi in Legislative diately. Department 2751. SHRI L L. KAPOOR: Will the Anticipated indigenous production of Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND Petroleum COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to 2750. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDA- state: RAM: (a) whether it is permissible for tk* SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Officers and staff of the Law Ministry PATIL: to do their notings in Hindi; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- (b) whether Hindi is actually used ZERS be pleased to state: in the Legislative Department in o®- cial notings? (a) having regard to the estimates of petroleum consumption at 32 mil- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE lion tonnes by 1981, what is the anti- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI cipated percentage of indigenous pro- SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a): Yes, Sir. duction to promote greater self reli- (b) Yes, Sir, to the extent possible ance; the officers and staff of the Official Language Wing and Vidhi Sahitya (b) what is the estimated contribu- Prakashan in the Legislative Depart- tion of the recent findings of oil; and ment do their noting and drafting in Hindi. Besides, in sections where a (c) the possibilities of contribution majority of the staff have a working to national resources by exploration knowledge of Hindi, the use of Hindi in Tamil Nadu? in their day-to-day work is encourag- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ed. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) It is On-shore Exploration Programme estimated that the rate of indigenous 2752. SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN: production of crude oil by 1980-81 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND will be around 17 to 18 million tonnes CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be per annum. pleased to state: (b) The recent finding of oil in (a) whether due emphasis has nol certain small structures in onshore been laid on the on-shore exploration areas would help in maintaining the programme for oil; production as planned, as the additional crude available from these (b) if so, what were considered to structures would off-sei the anticipat- be the inhibiting factors for not em- ed declining production from some of barking upon programme for on-shore the existing oil fields. Regarding the exploration in West Bengal, Tripura, offshore areas, the estimated produc- Uttar Pradesh, Cachar, Srinagar Val- tion from the offshore fields during ley, Godavari-Krishna basin etc.; and 143 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 144

(c) what steps have been or are ?m t qWn *r sfrrrfw fen proposed to be taken to remove those inhibiting factors? SHOT ? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM 4mm if TT^T few AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- HRIW ) : (w) TT^rar *R % ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). Due emphasis has been laid *RT & 3R cTT \ci*\ % on the on-shore exploration programme f^TTT Mtdlq 1971 if TRT also. The ONGC is already conducting pTT «TTSftT T1W *R % TPF% drilling operations in West Bengal, Tri- pura and Cachar. It has also under- *RcfR STf* % ^ 5PT taken drilling in the past in Uttar ^ s i w r snft if f?n t i Pradesh and Srinagar Valley. Drilling in Krishna-Godavari basin and further (w ) Tnr^rnr % «tcw k ftiir drilling in Uttar Pradesh will com- mence shortly. if stsr *rk ,^tcr % m % if (c) Does not arise. «ftft *ft niqi if 3>T 'RfT W ^ I ff^HM if ITJJT % fj*w r % fen? f^RHT sfaffiT ?T5FT 94 ^TRT srfefimr ^ tt | i

(^r) ^fV 1 2 7 53* tfhra XVR HIT* : (^r) Midi^ia ^ f% : W\ ^3% |tT MWTf^d % ftrrr ^ JReTFT 5 ^ I I ( * ) WT ^r t r «TTT^Tr ^R ’T (Tr^rPTH) % Jammu a Railway Junction fat* ®t>«! % H\*\ 2754. SHRI BALDEV ^INGH JAS- ROTHA: Will the Minister of RAIL- WAYS be pleased to state whether it («r) w r t t w * r «fk *r is under active consideration of his % m if fror sfro % Ministry to make Jammu a railway junction by connecting Jammu to faipf w r | if *R Punch via Akhnur or round about? *R f3RHT JTP5T ^TTfeff if %R *TT*T THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE % f%q: 5i ft 1t h MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ( ^ 11) ^TT mi I d I ^ ^rfir SHEO NARAIN): No. However, a final location survey for extension of railway ft, eft %. 5T% *TRT rod'll U w line from Jammu to Udhampur is in »nfeiY if *r ^srr ut progress at present. I ; MfWH 5ROT *HTT fWtaR Sf (*r) 4^ I TT=kT -BT *ft

% ftirr v tf 2 755. *ft 1HTC TT5WT : h i^ fftr f*rr ^ ^rr% fr r f% : (^ ) ^TT W^TX ^rr fa^R tftET srr^r fror% % ^nsrer (**) if sRrrrnR fvft^FT ^rnpr qr X45 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

^ t w n : % («r) istit ^rr^r % ^t ^ ft | ; % ^r®t *nfert ^t ^rom *T ft% % *K«I ^T% ^fcT % 27-9-1977 *t t^7 sftft *fh? TfdY ^ ; ’Tifen ^rsrtft *r$ 11 (*i) «r t ^Hd< ^rrf^T qr ^ stft House Rent Allowance for Railway ^ n f ^ r ^ n % *>t JTprr^ | ; Employees of Hill areas 2756. SHRI K. B. CHETTRI: WiU (w) irnr (^r) *#k (*r) the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- % «l 1^ *f 'HI I VPT^IfY ^ 9HTT ed to state: sr^TRr ; (a) whether it is a fact that the t f k railway employees of the hill areas of D.H. Section of N.F. Railway are get- ( s ) w r ^ ^TTfJT qrrfk^rftr^ ting 5 per cent house rent whereas the railway employees of the Simla are ^ r r f stpptV s f k ft, eft Siting 15 per cent house rent; ^ r ? (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and invmw if TT3RT *Wt («ft fa * (c) whether the increase in house WKNrq ) : (^r) «i«Vl rent for the railway employees serving in the hill areas of D.H. Section ^nT’T ^t *nfeft ^t ?rfy+dH *FPto also is under the consideration of W T 15^50 ft^ fW t^ T Government?

Name of Hill Station Pay range Rate of house rent allowance

D . H . Section o f N . F . Rly. :

Kuraeong Daijeeling Below R*. 384 • • Rs. is/-

Rs. 284/- and above but below 5% of pay subject to a minimum of Rs. 750/- Rs. 15/-

Rs. 750/-and above. Amount by which pay falls short of Rs. 786*45.

Swain 7-1/2% of pay subject to a maximum oTRs. 20o/-. 147 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 148

(b) The grant of house rent allow- Memorandum from Petroleum Engi- ance to Central Government employees neering Department of Indian School including Railway employees is link- of Mines Dhanbad ed with classification of cities on the 2758. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the basis of population. At hill stations, Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- remote and unhealthy localities, which MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be do not qualify for grant of such al- pleased to state: lowance on this basis the same is regulated under special orders of Govern- (a) whether a Memorandum dated ment. On the basis of population, 10th September, 1977 by the students Simla is classifiable as ‘C’ class city of the Petroleum Engineering Depart- and, therefore, Central Government ment Indian Schools of Mines, Dhan- employees working there are entitled bad regarding the grievances of the to house rent allowance admissible to petroleum Engineering Graduates, ‘C’ class cities, viz @ 7-1/2 per cent has been received; and (and not @ 15 per cent). The grant (b). if so, the action taken by Gov- of house rent allowance in respect of ernment to redress their grievances? the above stations on D.H. Section of THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM N. F. Railway which do nof qualify AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS therefor on the basis of classification (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and of cities, is being regulated under (b): Yes, Sir. A Memorandum dated special orders of Government. the 10th September, 1977, subsequent- (c) The rates of house rent allow- ly amended by another Memorandum ance at hill stations are under review dated the 27th September, 1977 was by a Committee of the J.C.M. received from the students of the Petroleum Engineering Department of the Indian School of Mines Dhanbad. Briefly, the following demands have tsff if wRcfhr fireroft been put forth in the amended memo- Ht»F randum:— (i) The services of the Petroleum 2 75 7- : Engineering graduates from the Indian School of Mines should be uti- t o t r m v f lised fully; ^ SRTT% "ft far : (ii) Grant of higher/special grades (?r) t o t yrBtrt ^5ff if irnxfhr to Petroleum Engineering Graduates already employed in the Oil and Na- tural Gas Commission as an incentive for promoting specialisation; ( a ) t o t w ?i+ i ?7ff if ?*r ;?r*T*r (iii) Petroleum Engineering stu- ^ W w i ? dents graduating from the Indian School of Mines may be recruited directly to the posts of Assistant Ex- ecutive Engineers after interviews. Training Programmes being under- ( v ) 5ft, $ I gone by the Petroleum Engineering graduates during their course at the («•) w w n r % Jf Indian School of Mines should be con- t o m ff sidered as meeting the requirements if f c n *raT of training for recruitment to this category of posts; *tT I ’TT qM (iv) For early placement of the Pet- farctaff % *r ®r r t roleum Engineering graduates, Oil and t I Natural Gas Commission should have 149 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 pre-graduation interviews of the Jammu and Kashmir, Meghalaya, Ma- campus of the Indian School of Mines harashtra, Karnataka and Goa have by a duly constituted Selection Com- approached Indian Drugs and Pharma- mittee every year during April-May; ceuticals Limited for setting up Joint Sector Units in their stdkes. Govern- (v) Creation of separate cadre of ment have so far approved the estab- Petroleum Engineers (catering to '’ril- lishment of a formulation unit in U.P. ling/production/Reservoir Engineering/ and a unit for the manufacture of pipeline construction operations etc.) Starch, Dextrose etc., in the Punjab. with horizontal and vertical mobility; (vi) Oil and Natural Gas Commis- The Indian Drugs & Pharmaceuti- sion which is the major employer of cals Limited have also written to all the Petroleum Engineering graduates the North Eastern State Governments may be requested to examine their suggesting the possibilities of setting case sympathetically. up one unit in the region in Joint participation with all the states in the Separately the Director of the Indian region. School of Mines had also written to Chairman, Oil and Natural Gas Com- Memorandum to General Manager, mission requesting for the visit of a Central Railway, Bombay V.T. senior officer of ONGC to discuss various demands made in the memoran- 2760. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will dum. Accordingly, Director (Personnel) the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- of the ONGC met the students at ed to state: Dhanbad on 16th November, 1977 and explained in detail the policy of the (a) whether it is a fact that the ONGC on the various points raised by General Manager, Central Railway, the students in their aforesaid memo- Bombay V.T. has received a memorandum. randum signed by about one hundred and fifty goods-train-driverg recently Proposal lor Setting up of Drug Units regarding their grievances and diffi- in States/Union Territories culties; 2759. SHRI AHMED HUSSAIN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (b) if so, when and what action has AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- been taken in regard to the same and whether the concerned have been ZERS be pleased to state: intimated accordingly; (a) whether it is a fact that several (c) if no action has been taken, the States/Union Territories (including reasons of delay; and Assam) have sent proposals to Indian Drug and Pharmaceuticals Ltd. (a (d) when action shall be taken? public sector undertaking) to set up drug units in the Joint Sector to meet THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the growing need of drugs; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. (b) the names of States who have sent their proposals so far; and (b) to (d). In accordance with Gov- ernment’s policy, staff representations (c) the action taken/proposed to be received from any source are given taken in the matter? due consideration and necessary action is taken. The demands of all catego- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ries of staff are considered and solved AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- through the various tiers of the Per- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) manent Negotiating Machinery and to (c). The States of U.P., Punjab, the Joint Consultative Machinery. Tamil Nadu, Madhya Pradesh, Rajas- This representation is also being consi- than, Himachal Pradesh, Orissa, Bihar, dered accordingly. Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 152

Representation to Divisional Superin- (c) if not, the reasons thereof; and tendent of Central Railway, Bombay (d) when the action shall be taken? V.T. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2761. SHRI ft. K. MHALGI: Will the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Minister, of RAILWAYS be pleased to SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. state: (b) to (d). The requests contained (a), whether it is a fact that the in the representation received on 25-9- Divisional Superintendent of Central 1977 are under examination and a rep- Railway, Bombay V.T. has received a ly will be sent to the party shortly. representation dated 20th August, 1977 from National Railway Mazdoor Union (Thana Branch) Distt. Thana (Maha- Bifurcation of Stores Department, rashtra) regarding grievances of com- Western Railway mercial staff; 2763. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will (b) if so, when and what action has the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- been taken; and whether it has been ed to state: communicated to the concerned; (a) whether Government have re- (c) if no action has been taken, the ceived a representation dated 6th reasons thereof; said May, 1977 regarding bifurcation of Stores Departments—Western Railway (d) when the action shall be taken? and consequent injustice to the seni- ors in the deparment; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) if so, what action Government SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. have taken or propose to take?

(b) to (d). In accordance with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Government’s policy, staff representa- THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS tions received from any source are (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) ,and (b). given due consideration and necessary The particular representation dated action is taken. The demands of all 6-5-77 is not recorded as received by categories of staff are considered and the Western Railway. Both Ministry solved through the various tiers of the of Railways and the Western Railway Permanent Negotiating Machinery and have been receiving representations the Joint Consultative Machinery. This regarding bifurcation of Stores De- representation is also being consider- partment. According to the declared ed accordingly. policy of bifurcation of the Stores De- partment into ministerial and non- Representation from 66 Persons of ministerial, an order was issued by the Kalyan Controller of Stores, Western Railway on 3-11-1959. This order was struck 2762. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the down by Bombay High Court and the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to matter is subjudice. In the meantime state: Bombay High Court permitted Rail- way Administration to make ad hot (a) whether Government have re- promotions according to seniority po- ceived representation signed by about sition as on 2-11-59, Le., prior to the sixty persons Kalyan (Distt Thana - issue of the orders of 3-11-59 ignoring Maharashtra) regarding the over- bifurcation of ministerial and non- bridge and other local grievances; ministerial staff. Aggrieved staff have (b) if so, when and what action has now taken the matter to the Gujarat Government taken and whether the High Court in May 1977 and have sjune lias been communicated to *he brought a stay order. As the matter concerned; is subjudice m High Court, gneropces 53 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15. 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 of staff who have now become senior (w ) ^T5pg- if

(^ ) TOT ^TTOT OTR SdVK if ^ f t r tf qr ?wiftrt qr ^5RT % ^rar yfa* %

(sr) tot 5W fr4^rfafi (v ) t o t t 5HT *TTO m f^ft % 51% fe

(* ) qfe eft W if ( « ) Jjft ^T, StTOT T O R 5fc*ftr TOT V R ^t^t’Tfl ? irta *r vniN shift % ftn? m v m : i 4(+n"V ?rt t t ; ^ t hwt *hft (wt fiw *fy r m w w ) : (* ) v)x ( * ) . 3ft ft \ (>r) TOT ' VTTR TT fiRTT WT t tfiTtfr-f^mfcntn vr f ^ r (*T) SHR 'dAal I

^ftunr JRT w m lflr t wt w: VRgr if vt qrfbff w t w tft ^ JTOft 1^1 i p p i ) .: vr t t finely (w ) i (»r). w>rwf % >fRT TTffr (^jrt Pnr5r»r) vi<*i 2765. «ft pFT v.^wny : TOT TOt ^ ^TT% ^t f*T ^ r f 1970 % merHf % IRPttT tot^IrT § 1 tfWn fsnrfar faresfr fa : wHa gavtn *t 50 »rra w r (^ ) TOT | fi> # irfHT | ^nfnfr % vct 19 77 if if ^ ^t ^t ?4Vffdi ^ | 1 *ftq^r ^ ^rXV if qcp *T vi5v( Sr fnfdd PrWnK f^TT to t *TT; iftz % *RffK «'Miir«d I m U * f t " ant 155 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 156

^HT ^TFTf T^C 3s<1«a +q, frifa ii ^ffaFT M+l < % 5T*nr % ?mrR qr fni^esr ^rff if ^ tf ^ ft srtwf % fTTTRcft T&Z % f I WSR iftT ^TRT iM Ji % Whf ffRTRff VT it Nc t 75 *fort tsw sfarsr g ^ T *r

^T^fryn tff 3T?T W HTf « T foq 2767. in%WT 3RTO VRV : 3TRt f eft # tffa r ^TT ^rat ^ f «

(^) 1971- 1977 AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZ- ERS be pleased to state: srafiar % fan* aMM ^ TTfir §%5TC ?fR (a) what is the present gap bet- TTftr ^fTRTT ? ween requirements and production of petroleum products; and *i*FW if TT5* Wft («ft fa* (b) what steps are taken by Gov- n K M ) : (^») ^qTn< ernment to meet the rising demand of HTh + ^ petroleum products? ^Hf *ii*h ^t TBT^nr ^ 1 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ^sffrR ^f5T % «41«-|| AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): 13*3 qr ^r**rftrSr *reftr*fi% armift (a) and (b). The total demand for ^ ^ ^TlfTX ^ r 31TT §TTT petroleum products in the country for q f

2769. PROF. R. K. AMIN: Will the (*) *t, *?V 1 Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be (?•) ^

(a) how many proposals of Foreign drug firms with more than 26 per 1970-71 21,125 cent equity have been approved as 1971-72 21,225 COB/Industrial licences and number of proposals pending for approval 1972-73 31,852 before Government likely to be 1973-74 31,852 approved itemwise, productionwise, royalty and imports of penultimate 1974-75 31, 852 raw materials involved and conditions 1975-76 50.519 attached to them; 1976-77 50,519 (b) is it a fact that COB licences 1977-78 50,519 issued to these firms contravene the decision of the Hathi Committee; and

1 1 (c) if so, whether Government propose to withdraw them forthwith? Demand of Petroleum Products THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM 2768. SHRI SKARIAH THOMAS: AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) 159 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 160

13 drug manufacturing firms with for- Govt, policy. It is, therefore, not pos- eign equity more than 26 per cent have sible to give the details asked for. been granted industrial licences during the period 1-4-76 to date. A State- (b) The Hathi Committee have only ment showing the details of these li- observed that most of the companies cences is attached. which were granted COB Licences did not inform the DGTD of the particulars of their diversification activities At present 46 fresh proposals for and that the authorities concerned did COB/Industrial Licences for Drugs not verify whether effective steps have are pending for decision. It is not been taken by the companies for the possible to say as to which of these items covered by the COB application. proposals might be approved because each proposal will be examined on (c) No, Sir these are valid docu- merits within the framework of the ments issued by Government. Statement

S. Name Company No. & date * Item of manufacture Annual Capacity No. erf* Industrial Licence

1 M/s. Pfizer Ltd. CIL: 169(76) Foot & Mouth Disease Vac- 4 Million Doses dt. 24-4-76 cine

2 M/s. Uni-Sankyo Ltd. . C IL: 69(76) Human Chorionic Gona- 6000 Million dt. 29-5-76 drophin units p.a.

3 M/s. Searle (I) Ltd. CIL: 321 (76) Diosgenin 5 Tonnes dt. 25-8-76

4 M/s. Suhrid Geigy Ltd. , C IL: 355 (76) Clofazimine 2 tonnes dt. 23-9-76

5 M/s. Sterling Drug (I) C IL: 369 (76) 1. Levophed 8 Kgs. Ltd. dt. 12-10-76 2. Phenyl aphrine 50 kgs. 3. Glycobiarsol 2*5 Tonnes 4. Sodium Hydroxy-Alu- minium Mono Carbo- 20* Tonnes nate Hexatol Complex. 5. Naldixic Acid 2*5 Tonnes

6 M/s. German Remedies CIL: 447 (76) 1. Trimethoprim 6 Tonnes Ltd. dt. 17-12-76 2. (i) Surpristol Tabs, each 18 Mill. Tabs, tablet contains: Trimethoprim 80 mg. Sulfamoxole 400 mg.

(ii) Supristol Paediatric Tablets, each tablet contains: Trimethoprim 20 mg. 2 Mill. Tabs. Sulfamoxole 100 mg. (iii) Supristol Suspension 5 ml. contains: Trimethopirm 40 mg. 10,000 Litres. Sulfamoxole 200 mg.

7 M/s. Burroughs Wellcome CIL: 448 (76) Pieudo Ephedrine Hrf. 2 Tonnes dt 18^12-76 l 6l Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

8 M/ft. Gyanamid Ltd. CIL: 17.(77) 1. Thiotepa 328- 7 gins. dt. 17-1-77 2. Methotrexate 3820*5 gms. 3. Calcium Leucoverin 59-6 gms.

9 M/s. Organon Ltd. GIL: 28 (77) 1. Ethisterone dt. 27-1-77 2. Testosterone & its Esters. 3. Test osterone propionate 4. Methyl Testosterone 5. Progesterone & salts ► 500 Kilo grams. 6. Prednisone 7. Degamethasone 8. Doca/Doc PP. 9. Gestriol Succinate

10. Human Chorionic 20,000 X 106IU Gonadotrophin 11. Pregancy Test Kits 10 X 106 units like Pregnerticon Plano- Test Kits, set Pregnostiset etc.

10 M/s. German Remedies IL: S. No. Bulk Drugs Ltd. ®i(77) 1. Hydroxy Progesterone 3 kg»- dt. 1-2-77 Caprotate 2. Bisacodyl B.P. 126 kgs. 3. Hydroxy Ethul 3828 kgs. Theophylline

Drug Formulations 1. Tablets & Dragees 1335 lakh Nos. 2. Ampoules 55 lakh Nos. 3. Liquids 98,000 litres 4. Suppostories 3 lakh Nos. 5. Ointment 7360 kgs.

11 M/s. Glaxo Labs. (I) Ltd. G IL: 74(77) Meclozine Hcl 400 kgs. d t 84-2-77

12 M/s. Hoechst Pharmaceu- IL: 92(77) 1. Gatelan Capsules 11.1 Mill. Nos. tkab Ltd. dt. 27-6-77 2. Vitabext 3.1 lakh litres 3. Hosteccordn 4H* 10 ml. 77,000 vials.

13 M/s. German Remedies GIL: 312(77) 1. Acetyl Sulpha Cynatnid 30*8 tonnes dt. 28-10-77 fSalnnm 2. Substantial Expansion Product Preaent Expan- Capacity after ex- capacity app&d paqsion for (annual)

Injections 10,088 7>9** 18,000 (litres) CjapnW %<**> 9,000 12,000 (in Thousand) Ointment 1,800 4,200 6^000 (mkgs.)

*7*rr, „ 408 192 60 (in thousand) Q 163 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 164

Marketing by Foreign P n g Firms without COB Licences

2770. FBJOF. R. K. AMIN: Will the 2 7 71. : TOT Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- ^ ^ fTT ^ : MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: ( t ) w t ^ | s w r % (a) how many foreign firms with TR^rnr if «r i % % more than 28 per cent equity in drugs IF IW W n y f tW f w | ; and pharmaceuticals have sol^ production of $mall scal£ tons started or sponsored by them and mutated (w ) *>r afar items without any valid, industrial VTT ^ licence under I(D&R) Act; I ? (b) how many foreign $rm§ vith more than 26 per cent equity fcaye stiUr not obtained COB said items marketed by them (Hiring last three ^ T O ( % TT

f ^ % €*sf s *r Pww srrf**w 0#) wr swt&w v k MivhT Jf £ : *rft *t * if srtwr

# i> 1. ff»w :2. SfaT (»r} ^tTS^fh^T^fawr%wmit % ?^ r# ^ r - .3. f a yH ^3% % 1978—79 % * n w v ; *rfc ?t, sfr ^TPPW Jf VIlfHH T t f^TT ym»*TI, ^tr jp» ?ra> fa*n 5wi^»rr ? fa* ?^T% ?PI 4M^i*y |UT I fcf H*mv if TTTO »Wt («ft ftw (w) 5ff?t, 1 aftrr^fajtmTTT sntnm) : (*) 3ft ?f l^ftttr'SW t : Jf sffwsrnftT faster

OTft^rf^r ?r# if ^>rt ( « ) S (*). TT '^ f ^>T M ^K+1T ^TT ^niT tpr si-ftwrew | sftr ^ ^nr{^ra (srrawfi^r) | fare % 5TtT mftraf vt w r f # ) qfttlfa*. W rT TTqrnwnTffT t ?^T wfipjl^3n5T»T^ % ftnr aftTT ^tfer sr'inrfarer t i v(i) Tnr^T^nr 12.60 8.62 vjAiT|T ( ? ) i m $ 1

0 0 tfl^wwr 35.12 15.55 Petro-Chemical Compsn; in Kerala

Xtl3. SffiUX A . RAJAN: Will the Miiuster of ^EEROLppM,. AND. (?HE- nwrfh w wvw m CATA AND FERttLIZERS be pleased to state: 2772. Wftl : ^fT Ca) wfeethbr 6oveniiheiit have been approached by the K^ral^ State Oor- enmient seeking its approval for sromjg im a petro - chemical complex (^) w qfw* %?rr % *ter in the State; and f> j '.fi- - Jt! / ‘j ^ ^ *{*+ - ^1‘ -'"’ 1WT3R W ( * *m pH W (b) if so, the details and Govern- %*hi) w i^ *ro^ '«h pr |' : ment’s reaction thereto? 167 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (c) whether it is a fact that there AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- is a complaint in the areas served ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): by Pathankot-Joginder Nagar sections (a) Proposals have been received from regarding the timing of trains and the Hie State Government of Kerala from connecting trains from Pathankot; tone to time for setting up a petrochemical complex in the State. (d) if so, whether the Railway administration are contemplating to (b) As and when it is decided to set re-examine the timing of the trains up any additional petrochemical pro- on Pathankot-Joginder Nagar section jects in the country, the possibility of vis-a-vis connecting trains at Pathan- location of such a project in Kerala kot for the Kangra Valley; and will also be considered. (e) if so, what are the details thereof?

Posts Of Analysts ip BJ>SO THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS 2774. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will the (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes, re- Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to presentations were received for intro- state: duction of additional trains on Pathan- kot-Jogindernagar section. One pair (a) whether there is any proposal of additional passenger train has been for the restoration of the posts of introduced between Pathankot and Analysts in RDSO in Class II in the Baijnath Paprola with effect from/ Railways; 1-10-77. (b) if so, what are the details (b) Out of 3 pairs of trains one pair thereof; and namely 1 PB/4 PB Pathankot-Baij- (c) by when the posts will be nath Paprola is being run as a fast revived? passenger service and this train does not stop at 10 intermediate stations as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE there is no traffic justification. How- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ever, provision of additional stoppages SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. at 3 stations is under examination and action as found justified and feasible (b) and (c). Do not arise. will be taken.

Train Services on Pathankot-Joginder (c) to (e). The schedule of the exist- Nagar Section ing services on Pathankot-Joginder- nagar section has been framed ift 2775. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will such a way as to provide connection the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- with Broad Gauge services at Pathan- ed to state: kot. No change in the timings of trains is therefore feasible. (a) whether Railway administration has recently received any repre- Requirement of Cooking Gas sentation regarding inadequate train services on Pathankot-Joginder Nagar 2776. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will Section; if so, what are the details the Minister of PETROLEUM AND thereof and what action has been CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be taken by the Government; pleased to state:

(b) whether it is a fact that 1PB/4 (a) whether the Minister has made PB do not stop at small halts or flag a statement recently that the require- stations; if so, what are the reasons ments of cooking gas in the country thereof; will be met within two years; 16 9 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

(b) if so, whether Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE phased out any programme for meet- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ing the requirements of the con- SHEO NARAIN): (a) and (b). No sumers; such panicky situation has been reported by the Police authorities so far (c) if so, what are the details there- though the incidents of dacoities in of; and trains passing through Bihar area have increased slightly. The Police machi- (d) what is the number of appli- nery has been fully geared up to con- cants on waiting lists at Delhi at trol such crimes in Railway trains. present?

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM TrfOTt if TfRsjf ITU WTO Pfesting TFhJftttgh Bihar ^TOT t ? 2777. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN- DIA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS WWW if TTO («ft fiffW be pleased to state: ): (*>) w fiw i ^ftarmt (a) whether Government are aware im m firif ’tt that the Railway Passengers passing spf t o t1 through the State of Bihar have become panicky due to increased number (^r) «rft *ttot % ^ ^vihi of dacoities; and •re *JTsft mi Mai (b) if so, what steps Government ^PT, 3TTST JTTfif have taken to safeguard the passengers? Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 172

ST S5TRT tsi\^LHI ^PfT4 Memorandum from Eastern. Marketing ZflBe Employees AafOfciattm, Calcutta. ^ t 2780. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- •T ft I M IC AL AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (w) 1 *rfter, Hrrfii^cr (a) whether a memorandum regard- $ ft qrtff jn r srr* * f s <$ *nfc t ^ / ing proposed pay scales and other g&evances has been received from Eastern Marketing Zone Employees' Association, Calcutta • t 1 (b) if so, the details of their grie- (^ ) ?T I *Hfci*n 4>0*Ml vances; and ^ ^ 197^r 77 ^T5RT^ (c) actiop taken by Government to redress then??

sifd^i awau fc* wwnr if t t r inft (* t f m ^nrwrar) (*f) ft i ffiwrr qqlfaqvH IWr, m w w t «W* w r t a m m % ^ nmr^ra (^) «fit («). srrer gtn £ i Pswfl ffTTT5t»Tf -Jici^lO % nij«K fe?fr % trehrpr RmrRnff ( s ) tfk (*r). %$*nm t tt^r 5t t t vtsifirtf ^VWTVS ^-URST* 10-00 *rwt «n?ft f i % i s . 00 * $ * 5^nt»r f^V t | ?ft shrift stftr | tffc %gdTg % qfrrnr ^n: v t f ^ t if *Y 3TRft | ufa qft jjh ^T^%%firrr ^im | » ?«i# sr «rihrt «n ^ if | i#t Wtfr 5*r *pnr % % *nrcrinfir % jt%, «m ft*r%, *nMt in 3 f Jr f t jw fa m f # t *R fn^frl tffTTO ^VPT VTFBT arttff | I 5 T 7 T | I «mirair if ift *f\X M>i«I^TT if

2782. tftvmtnr swi : w fldittke of New FMiliierii *rtfr ^ w flr ^ «WT % : 2783. SHHI PARMANAlfD govwhjiwaia ^ (v) wm^^nr|ftr «ftt SHRt 1PHOOL ChAND VESMA: «Jf$WPIK ^tapRIT 5t wir»ri»r Will the Minister of PETROLEUM W» w f *1 V*T AND CHEMICALS AND PERTILI- 'EtW HK W jroro vivhrr 24 2SERS be plftslKi to stttte Whether (fct-TRT ) iftT ffT th# fed^erhittent of Irtdia hits Arty scheme for A new fertiliser plant in SltftvjpT % fetj ^ ^ fertilizer plant in Madhya Pradesh other than Korba. (it) W tt<<*>R TT fipTR *Tt*T *R 5^: fq-^H ^T ^ *A< Varkala Bailwaj Station ^r st *£*pff

June, 1977 regarding Varkala Station THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) A statement is (a) whether Government have take* laid on the Table of the House. a final decision regarding the propo- [Placed in Library. See No. LT- sal for extension of the platform 1272/77]. shelter and construction of a foot over bridge at Varkala Railway Sta- (b) The contract was originally tion in Kerala; awarded in 1970 at monthly evalua- tion of Rs. 4495.21. (b) if so, the details thereof and the actions taken thereon; and (c) No. (c) if not, the reasons for the delay (d) Does not arise. in taking the decision? Derailment of Kanpur-Allahabad t n i i THE MINISTER OF STATE IN at Biadkl THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. 2786. SHRI RUDRA SEN CHAU- DHURY: Will the Minister of RAIL- (b) and (c). Extension of cover over WAYS be pleased to state: platform is not considered justified for the present level of traffic. (a) whether during the Safety Fort- night launched on Allahabad Division Provision of foot over bridge is ac- of the Northern Railway, a Down Kan- cepted and the work is expected to pur-Allahabad Passenger derailed at be completed in 1978-79. Bindki Road around 4 P.M. on Ird November, 1977; Traffic handle^ at Tnndla Goods Shed (b) whether bogies attached with 2785. SHRI ^ TESHWAB HEM- the train were carefully and properly RAM: Will the Minister of RAIL- examined by the TXR staff at Kanpur WAYS be pleased to state: before the train left for onward journey towards Allahabad; (a) the traffic handled at Tundla Goods Shed as P** individual items (c) what was to® cause of derail- of schedule by the Cooperative Sou ment and the loss sustained by the ciety holding handling contract during Government together with ntmiber of the period January, 1975 to August, passenger injured/killed and the 1977 month-wise, separately and the amount of compensation paid te them;

> amount of handling bills submitted and monthly; > (d) whether Government propose the monthly value on which to change whole lot of Officers owing th* eostract was originally awarded to to whose slackness and mismanage- the society; ment, there has been abnormal increase in accidents and derailments (c) v^ether Government are aware taking place on Allahabad Division that (Attain items of Schedule were/ and the passengers are feeling unsafe are being systematically manipulated while travelling by train? to the disadvantage of the Railway Administration in collusion with cer- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tain Railway Employees to realise MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI unintended payment; and SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. (d) the total amount of unintended (b) The bogies attached with the payment drawn by the Society up to train were given the normal safe to August, 1977 and the action taken run examination at Kanpur Central be against the persons held responsible fore the train left for onward Journey therefor? towards Allahabad. 177 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 178

(c) The accident was due to the tyre (ii) M/s. Pfizer . 1974 15a* 16 of the south side wheel of leading trol- 1975 166-6* ley of the coach marshalled 4th from 1976 *36* 4* the train engine coming off its rim. (Period coding 30th November) The cost of damage to railway pro- (iii) M/s. Glaxo . 1974 138.85 perty has been estimated at approxi- *975 148*63 mately Rs. 50,500. 1976 205-65 (Period ending 30th June) No one was killed. One person sustained only trivial injuries and he continued the journey by the same (b) Amounts repatriated as Divi- train after first aid was rendered on dends, Technical Know How, Royalty, the spot. No compensation has been H.O. expenses etc. (Rs. in lakhs). paid. (i) M/s, Sandoz >973-74 9*7t (d) The number of accidents to 1974-75 Nil trains including derailments on Allaha- 1975-76 25-86 bad Division between April and (ii) M/s. Pfizer . *973-74 65*6* November 1977 were less than in the *974*75 *8-71 corresponding period of 1976. There 1975-76 15*6® has, however, been a recent reshuffling of Officers in various divisions to (iii) M/s. Glaxo . * 1973-74 *56*81 streamline the administrative machi- *974-75 Nil *975*76 6a* <4 nery.

Profits earned by M /s Sandoz, M/a (c) Reduction in the foreign equity Pfizer and M /s Glaxo holdings and hence consequently reduction in the percentage of income 2787. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: repatriated by foreign drug manufac- 'W ill the Minister of PETROLEUM turing firms is obtained through the AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- following two measures: — ZERS be pleased to state: (a) Under Section 29 of the (a) the net profits eSmed by M /s. Sandoz, M/s. Pfizer and M /s. Glaxo Foreign Exchange Regulation Act, during the last three years; foreign drug manufacturing companies having foreign equity more (b) the amounts repatriated by than 40 per cent are required to “these firms to their principals during reduce their foreign equity to a each of these three years in the name level not exceeding 74 per cent or •of technical know-how, royalty, H.O. some intermediate level between 4t expenses etc.; and per cent and 74 per cent depending on the nature of their total activi- (c) what action Government have ties; and taken/propose to take to see that (b) By the scheme of dilution ef repatriation of moneys abroad by foreign equity announced by the drug firms is restricted to tninimian Government in February, 1972 necessary? whereby companies having foreign THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM equity exceeding 51 per cent and expanding their activities are requir- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): ed to induct Indian capital upto prescribed levels of the cost of the (a) Netprofit earned (in Rs. lakhs) expansion. Conditions for diluting equity holdings as per this formula (i) M/s. Sandoz 1974 55*00 *975 69*00 are invariably being imposed while 1976 79-00 granting expansion in manufacturing (Period carting 31st December) activities to such companies. Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 180

Foreign sector companies are being (b) the licensed capacities of each allowed expansion in drug manufac- item, production year-wise, itemwise turing activities only in selected fields and importedy’canalised raw materials which require heavier capital invest- used-quantity and value by these ment, thus necessitating a greater firms during thiee years separately quantum of the profits earned by such for this production; and companies having to be ploughed back (c) whether similar proposals from as Investments and hence reducing the Indian companies have bem partly overall repatriable profits available to rejected and if so, reasons for the them. same? The manner in which the activities of foreign drug manufacturing com- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM panies should be further regulated is AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS under the consideration of Govern- (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) A ment in the context of the recom- Statement showing the names of all the mendations made by the Hfethi Com- drugs and their annual capacities for mittee for controlling the activities of which licences have been granted to foreign drug manufacturing firms. A M /s. Burroughs Welcome, M /s. May decision thereon is likely to be taken & Baker, Sandoz, Glaxo and M /s. soon. Pfizer during the last three years is attached. Licences granted to drug companies (b) The information is being collect- 2788. SHRI SURENDRA BUCRAM: ed and will be laid on the Table of the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM House (Licensed Capacities, however, AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- are already shown in the Statement aiw ZERS be pleased to state: nexed). (a) the drugs for which licences (c) No proposal of Indian companies have been granted to M /s. Burroughs has been rejected for the items for Wellcome, Mar k Baker, Sandoz, tirhicfc M /s. Burroughs WeUeorrte etc. Glaxo mu* M /s. Pfizer during the last have been granted licences during tbe three years; last three years. Statements

SL Name of the No. & date of Item of manufacture Annual No. Company lienee Capacity

I s 3 4 5 i M/t. Burroughs (i) GIL: 97(74) (i) Trimethoprim 3600 kgs. Wellcome d t 5-4-74 (ii) Scplran Tabs, 260 lakhs (ii) Scptran Suapan/ 63 Kilo Syrup litres (ii) CIL: 448/76 Pseudo Ephedrine 2 Tonnes 4l 18-12-76 Hcl 3 M/s. Pfizer Limited, (i) CIL: 215(74) Chlorpropamide i*5 to 6 '5 Bombay. dt. 20-7-74 tonnes (Expansion) (ii) CIL: 169(76) Foot & Mouth 4 Million dt. 24-4-76 Disease Vaccin doses p.a. 3 M/s. Sanooac (I) CIL: 212(75) (i) Brinerdin Tabs.1 50 lakh Nos. Limited. dt 24-6-75 (ii) Intestopean 20000 kgs. formula* ion (iii) Phenipan Tabs 150 lakh Nos. (iv) Sandocydme 50000 Litres Pediatric Suspn. 4 M/s. Glaxo Labs (I) (i) CL: 299 (75) (i) Calcium Se 3000 to 5000 Limited. dt. 12-8-75 Seonodde Kgs. (Expansion) (») CIL: 74(77) Medozine Hcl 400 kg. dt. 24-2-77 l 8l Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers iSz

COB Licences to be obtained by (b ). During the period 1-11-1974 to foreign Drag Companies 31-10-77, 17 applications have been received by the Government for grant 2789. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: of COB licences. 7 applications out Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND of 17 were from companies having CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be foreign equity more than 26 per cent. pleased to state: Out of these 7 applications, \ application has been disposed off finally and (a) the number of foreign com- COB licence issued. No condition re- panies who are yet to obtain C.O.B. garding dilution of foreign equity or Licences; export was imposed since its foreign equity was 40 per cent and hence not (b) the names of firms, items manu- covered by FERA. factured during last three years, extent of foreign equity, utilisation of (c) No case of mispresentation of imported and canalised raw materials; facts in applications received during and the last 3 years which have been disposed off finally have come to the (c) what action Government have notice of the Government. taken or propose to take against these firms for contravening the provisions of I (D and R) Act? fcWT MPfWf ^

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM 2791* •ft fRifit? :WT AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Ifaft *1? TOT% FTT : (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to (c). Information is being collected and will (*) ^ if ft* ftrtr ^r< be laid on the Table of Hie House. tfriWr m r v n r famarrtrr f ; Proposals for COB Licences (w) 2790. SHRI SURENDRA BIKRAM: shrift* VT | TOT W Will tile Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEJ^QALS AND FERTI- LIZERS be pleased to state: (*r) %«t o t t t o t (a) the number of proposals for COB | t o t w t o t W f ; licences received during the last three years; how many of them belonged to (w). ^ fiFT-fiFT w f foreign companies with more than 26 per cent foreign equity and how ippny Sr * ? of them have been approved; TOITO if tt to inft ( r t firo (b) in how many cases condition ) : ( * ) tfhft ircff % farj regarding dilution of foreig|i equity qt exports were levied while granting COB licences and whether these com- ITTT WK TO V fonft panies have taken steps towards that direction; and if ft $ « r r fHiWr, fl?TTO> (c) whether cases of misrepresent- *rrtff 'W t fa - ation of facts in applications have come to the notice of Government, if so, tftofiw vtforf, t=ftfvr(t action taken against such firms and fiww $ 425— 700^*/550—750 steps taken to discourage this practice? if THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM w t Prfe *ncn*rrcr AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and 183 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 184

snfif IT^PT (sr) % (w). ^ ^ fo r t 1 1 t fas $ ^rt | i

WT9T 'TSTCfrT ^T^ft Pt^Prci ?TIHT<

*TPT ^TVT^iTT ftRT ^ t

0 ) ( 2) ( 3) ( 4) ( 5) ( 6)

1. 4\oX^o firfe *i^sw % ?Tnm jwfir ttsit %■ f5TO?f

(iii) gsfro ftrcnfo, ^ft^r «rrf%* srfir- fecT 1 J1 M/s. Indian Scherings Ltd. (b) what are the products manu- 2792. SHRI NATVER LAL B. PAR- factured by this company and theii MAR: Will the Minister of PETRO- production during the last three years; LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- imported raw materials/canalised TILIZERS be pleased to state: materials content and value; and (a) what is the investment in capi- (c) whether this company has cta- tal and plant machinery of M/s. travened the provisions of I (D and R) Indian Sphering Limited; Act and if so, what action has 1*5 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers i8& taken or is proposed to be taken (5) Disecron against them? (6) Disecron Forte (7) Ery. Liquid THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (8) Gent E/E Drops AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) (9) Gend. HC E/E Drops Tke total capital investment (compris- (10) Gent. Injectable ing Equity & Reserves & Surpluses) of (11) Micropaque M/s. Indian Schering Limited is Rs. (12) FJlnmaiw lfl lakhs. Their investment of plant (13) Megimide and machinery in their factory at (b) Powders Ointments Bombay as on S0-6-75 is Rs. 27.61 lakhs. The value of investment in (1) Albudd Ointment plant & machinery at their factory at (2) Cortudd Ambemath is being ascertained and (3) Gent. Creams will be laid on the Table of the House. (4) Gent H.C. Creams (5) Neutradonna Powder Cb) The drug items being manufac- (6) Methimezole (Chemicals > tured by M/s. Indian Schering lim ited are indicated in the Annexure (7) Kruschen Salts attached. (8) RMX 113 (Chemicals) (9) Ephedrine Granules Information relating to the quantum (10) Neutradonna Powder Mix of production of various items by this (11) Neutradonna Tab. Gran. party during the last three years and (12) Kruschen Salts Mix also the details of various imported/ canalised raw materials consumed by (c) Tablets them during the same period is being collected and will be laid on the Table (1) Asmapax of the House. (2) Orasecron Forte (3) Ery. Capsules (c) The question whether this com- (4) Malidens pany has contravened the provisions (5) Micropyrin of I (D&R) Act or not and if so, what (6) Micropyrin C action is to be taken is under consi- (7) Nco-Mercazolc deration of the Government. (8) Neutradonna Tablets (9) Neutralon (10) Sorbitrate Mmm § f drug items being manufactured by MJs Indian Schering lim ited (11) Sorbitrate Tranquiliser (12) Ethidol 1. Bulk drugs (13) Menop&x (1) Aluminium Sodium Silicate (14) Menopax Forte (2) Ephedrine Resinate (15) Obafivon-C (3) Sodium Nitrate (16) Aspro (4) Carbixnazole (17) Rainbow (5) Barium Sulphate Foreign Firing Manufacturing Drugs 2. Drug formulations in Xnffia (a) Liquid 2703. SHRI NATVER LAL B. PAR- (1) Albudd 10% MAR: Will the Minister of PETRO- 20% LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND » 3°% (2) Aquaviron FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (3) Aquaviron B12 (a) how many foreign concerns are (4) Diarmycm N manufacturing drugs in our country; l&] Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers ifcg

(b) whether Government Xound that and Pharmaceutical Industry, whose any of them are manufacturing drugs recommendations in this regard are of sub-standard quality of spurious under consideration of Govt, and a drugs; decision is likely to be taken shortly. (c) is the output of drug manufactured in excess of the demand of con- Lew Suffered by Railway during sumers; and Shrimati Indin Gtifcdhi’s visit to Tamil Nadu (d) whether these manufacturers are working in excess of their licensed 2794. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD capacity, if so, have Government taken VERMA: any objection to this activity; details SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: thereof? SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM pleased to state: AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI U. N. BAHUGtJNA): (a) (a) the total loss suffered by the In the Organised Sector there are 36 Railways as a result of violent demon- foreign firms (foreign equity exceed- stration held at the time of Shrimati ing 40 per cent) engaged in the manu- Indira Gandhi’s arrival in Tamil Nadu facture of Drugs & Pharmaceuticals. on October 30, 1977; and (b) what action has been taken by (b) No special survey in respect of the Police to prevent such ugly situ- only foreign manufacturing firms has ation? been conducted. However, the result •of the intensive Drug Quality Control THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Programme carried out under the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI joint auspices of the Central and SHEO NARAIN): (a) Rs. 43,46,780/- State Drug Control Organisations in of which 42,50,220/- is due to damages respect of the firms manufacturing caused to the Railway property and Drugs shows that during 1973-74 and Rs. 96,560/- on account of cancella- 1974-75 only 1.4 per cent and 1.3 per tion of train services. t cent respectively of the samples were (b) To safeguard the Railway profound not of standard quality. perty and to maintain law and order. Police officers moved swiftly wherever The control over manufacture and demonstrations affected train services sale of drugs under the Drugs and and took action as the situation war- Cosmetics Act and rules thereunder is ranted. In suburban section pickets exercised by the State Governments were posted by Police at vulnerable through State Drug Control Authori- points, at all important level crossings ties. Their Inspectors inspect the and bridges, provided bandoust at all manufacturing as well as g&les pre- important stations, and kept striking mises to ensure production/sale of Forces at important stations. medicine of the standard quality.

(c) Production capacity is created Memorandum from Employees of generally on the basis of projected xe- ONGC Regarding rirfliihg of Wells quirements of the country and surplus 2795. SHRI S. G. MURUGAI^AN: capacity allowed for items having ex- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM port potential. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to state: (d) It is observed that several foreign firms are producing drugs in (a) whether he has received a excess of their licenced capacities. memorandum from the Oil and Natu- The ^question of such excess produc- ral Gas Commission Employees Asso- tioti* of drugs arid phatxnaceutieals was ciation alleging that the ONGC autho- considered by the Committee on Drugs rities are not drilling certain wells up *89 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers jgo

to the target depth in spite of the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM suggestion of the Geophysicists and AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- other experts; ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) No Sir. i(b) if so, the details thereof; (b) Does not arise. (c> whether they have demanded an impartial enquiry into the whole (c) The present incumbent was affairs of the ONGC; and selected for appointment to the post on the expiry of the (extended) term (d) if so, the Government’s reac- of the earlier incumbent as he was tion thereto? considered most suitable from amongst the various candidates considered for THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM the post. He has been appointed on AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- a pay of Rs. 4000/- per month in the ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) scale of Rs. 3500-125-4000 for a term Yes, Sir. of five years from 16.6.1974. The other perquisites to which he is en- (b) and (c). The Memorandum titled are:— submitted by the ONGC Employees (i) Free unfurnished accommoda- Association (W.B.) mainly deals with tion. the various demands relating to pay- scales, allowances, etc. and refer to (ii) Facility of the use of the Cor- inter alia, the alleged irregularities in poration’s car for private purposes the drilling of some wells and de- subject to the conditions laid down manded an enquiry into the affairs by the Ministry of Finance from

(e) the reasons for appointing the * s t O ** * stfft.hr prosent Chairman and when and on arm *r w qntffaJiT what perquisities was he apointed and for what duration; and t ? ifcnwr # r m fUm (d) the BBBaooa for removing the •earlier incumbent in the said office? > n n w jf; (t ) 191 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

| T*sT ft of the company has been ordered under section 209A of the Companies Act* I 1956 on 15th October 1977 and fur* ther course of action will be considered on receipt of the inspection re- -H M l«J ^ ri TRT ^TRt port. % ftr% faiiN froff^r *pt (d) The following persons have | i %^r^f^niCTf ifh: ^ft ceased to be directors of the company during the years 1976 and 1977: 'HHi^ «u^ t r t 'Snrt fsR^ ^n% fj *ft ^r fertfef m *ii\ ^ | i 1. Dr. Yudhvir Singh — (Declined to seek re-election); fafare* ^nrsjfr/srf^nft, f^ | 2. Sh. K. C. Raman :RT?n4^Tt'mr i^ f ^ ; % fVtx^ ^ — (Resigned); vTHlft ^ | ft» t Wttt Wvfauifi ^T 3. Sh. Kuldip Raj Narang s*kr i \ — (Retired by rotation and not re- elected). Complaint regarding Associated Journals I limited, Locknowi Coa/erence on the Law of Seas under 2798. SHRI PHOOL CHAND U.N. auspices VERMA: SHRI RAMESHWAR 2799. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: PATIDAR: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE. Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be plea- to state: sed to state: (a) whether India participated' (a) whether he has received any actively in the Conference on the Law complaint regarding mismanagement of the Seas held recently under the •f finances by Associated Journals U.N. auspices; Limited of Lucknow; (b) if so, broad details thereof; Written Answers 194 and its resources; the Second Com- Session held in Geneva in 1975, and mittee deals with the questions relat- in Revised Single Negotiating Text ing to the other law of the sea ques- which was issued at the end of its tions, including territorial waters, Fourth Session held in New York straits, economic zone, continental in May, 1976. On July 17, 1977 the shexf maritime boundary, islands, ar- President of the Conference, chipelagoes, landlocked states etc. The jointly with the Chairmen of the three Third Committe deals with the ques- main Committees, has prepared an tions relating to marine pollution, Informal Composite Negotiating Text, scientific research and transfer of which contains most of the agreed technology. Some questions, includ- points referred to above. Some pro- ing the settlement of disputes, are visions, particularly those relating to discussed in the plenary session of the international seabed area and its the Conference. resources, will be further negotiated at the next session of the Conference. India has participated in all sessions of the Conference and in all its major Foot Bridge Unking Ranip Village with work, since December, 1973. Sabaimati Station

(c) The Indian Delegation to the 2800. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Law of the Sea Conference is headed Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be by the Law Minister and includes re- pleased to state: presentatives from the Ministries of External Affairs, Defence, Food & (a) whether Government are aware Agriculture (Department of Fisheries), that the thousands of residents of Petroleum and Steel and Mines (De- Ahmedabad and suburbs have been partment of Mines). Sometimes, a asking and representing for the early Professor of International Law ha? construction of a railway foot bridge also been included in the Delegation. linking the Ranip Village with the The subjects discussed have been in- Sabarmati Railway Station on Western dicated in answer to (b) above. Railway;

(d) The Conference has so far resu (b) if so, Government's response ched consensus on several issues, in- thereto; and cluding a 12-mile territorial sea, a 24- mile contiguous zone, and a 200-mile (c) reasons for not taking up the exclusive economic zone. There has said work on an urgent basis? also been broad agreement on the definition of the continental shelf which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE extends to the outer edge of the con- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI tinental margin or to a distance of SHEO NARAIN): (a) Representations 200 miles where the margin falls' short have been received for extension of of that distance, on the nature of so- the existing foot over-bridge at Sabar- vereign rights and exclusive jurisdic- mati Metre Gauge Station to cross the tion which a coastal State enjoys with- tracks in the yard to Ranip side. in its exclusive economic zone and the continental shelf, and on the rights (b) and (c). Cost of new foot and duties of other States in these 0\rer-bridges or extension of existing areas. Broad agreement has also been foot over-bridges to enable the pub- reached on the questions relating to lic to cross the tracks is required to marine pollution and scientific re- be borne by the State Govt./local au- search. thority, as per extant rules. They will therefore have to decide whether a These agreements were embodied in new foot over-bridge or extension of the Single Negotiating Text which the existing foot over-bridge is neces- was issued at the end of its Third sary. The State Govt, have already 2856 LS..7 195 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 195

been approached by the Railway in during the last three years; and if so, this regard and their reaction and steps Government have taken to pre- acceptance to bear the cost are await- vent violation of Acts and rules passed ed. by Parliament?

The work can be taken up by the THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Railway after the State Govt, agrees AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- to bear the cost. ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). Statement I showing the details of Industrial Licences and New Connections of Consumer Gas Letters of Intent granted to IDPL for various drug items, Statement II 2801. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: showing the details of proposals of Will the Minister of PETROLEUM IDPL pending with Government and AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Statement III showing the production ZERS be pleased to state: of bulk drugs by M/\s. IDPL during (a) the total number, of cases re- the last three years are laid on the garding connection of Consumer Gas Table of the House. [Placed in Lib- registered during the year 1976-77, rary. See No. LT-1273/77]. * State-wise; (c) Information regarding violation of Drugs (Prices Control) Order by (b) the total number of conections M/s. IDPL has already been furnish ^ given, State-wise; and ed in reply to part (d) of Lok Sabha (c) the total number of cases pend- 'Unstarred Question No. 1821 replied ing as on 31st October, 1977 for having on 29th November 1977. new connection in each State? No instance of violation o£ I (D&R) THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM Act by this company has come to the AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- notice of the Government. ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to (c). The requisite informa- Distribution of canalised items of tion is being collected and will be Drugs by I.D.P.L. laid on the Table of the Sabha. 2803. SHRI MOTIBHAI R. CHAU- Details of licences possessed by DHARY: Will the Minister of PET- I.D.P.L. ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: 2802. SHRI MOTIGHAI R. CHAU- DHARY: Will the Minister of PET- (a) the philosophy of giving canal- ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND ised items of drugs for distribution to FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: IDPL; (a) details of the number, date, (b) whether the indigenous prices capacity, items etc. of industrial of drugs, canalised for distribution licences, letters of intents possessed by through IDPL are declared by IDPL ' I.D.P.L. and how many of their appli- or fixed by Gcrvernment after cost cations are pending before Planning examination; and Commission and Licensing Committee for approval; (c) how many items with distribution range of IDPL are not yet pro- (b) in how many cases the produc- duced by them and what was the pro- tion has been commenced and details duction of remaining items during the of the same during the last three years; last three years? i and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (c) in how many cases IDPL hive AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- not obtained industrial licences or ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): ■* violated Drug Price Control Order (a) Bulk drugs are canalised for 197 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

import through the State Chemicals either prices declared by them have and Pharmaceuticals Corporation of been accepted or the prices have been India Limited keeping in view the allowed after obtaining necessary de- country’s requirements as also the tails in the prescribed form unHer extent of variations noticed in the the Drugs (Prices Control) Order, past in import prices of actual users 1970:— from different sources. In respect of (1) Folic Acid some canalised bulk drugs IDPL is the only producer or major producer. (2) Riboflavin and Riboflavin 5- Canalised bulk drugs in the produc- Phosphate Sodium tion range of IDPL are distributed by (3) Piperazine and its salts IDPL so as to ensure better coordina- (4) Amidopyrine tion between production, arranging (5) Phthalyl Sulphathiazole imports and availability to the actual users from a single source. (6) Metronidazole (7) Nitrofurazone (b) The indigenous prices of the (8) Nitrofurantoin following 8 canalised bulk drugs produced and distributed by IDPL have For Griseofulvin produced indigen- been fixed by the Government on the ously no price has yet been declared basis of cost-cum-technical examina- by IDPL. tion conducted by the Bureau of In- dustrial Costs and Prices from time Generally, there is a difference bet- to time:— ween the indigenous price fixed for (1) Tetracycline these drugs and the import price. <2) Oxytetracycline Wherever there are imports, pooled price is fixed keeping in view indi- (3) Streptomycin genous production and imports so (4) Analgin as to ensure that the formulators get <5) Sulphaguanidine these bulk drugs at a uniform price, and the charge of favouritism in al- <6) Sulphadimidine locating bulk drugs to some formula- <7) Phenobarbitone and its salts. tors from a cheaper source is avoided. (8) Vitamin B-l. (c) Details of production during the In respect of indigenous prices of last three years of various canalised the followling canalised bulk drugs bulk drugs distributed by IDPL are produced and distributed by IDPL, indicated below:—

(Figures in tonne*)

S. Name of the bulk drug Production during No.

1974" 75 1975-76 197677

1 2 3 4 5

1. Tetracycline and its salts . *5*92 75*52 81-38

2. Oxytetracy cline and its salts 27-32 41-46 36-54

3- Streptomycin . . . . 199 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 200

I 2 3 4 5

4 - S ulphaguanidine 246*41 183*05 244* 00

5 - Sulphadimidinc & its salts 348*07 472*94 474* 15.

6. Metamizole (Analgin) . 181-54 225*28 2 8 1*0 2

7- Phenobarbitone & its salts . 7*97 * 3 * l 7 >3*55 2 7 .7 3 8. Vitamin B-i . 24*63 33*04

9 * Folic Acid • 3*06 3*63 4 *4Z

IO. Amidopyrine . . 4*20 4*37 2*4 6

i i . Phthalyl Sulphathiazole . Nil Nil Nil

12. Metronidazole . . . Nil 0*08 0*042^

>3- Nitrofurantoin . . Nil 0*76 3 ’ l 4r

14. Griseofulvin NU >35 136*15 kgs. kgs.

*5- Nitrofurazone . Nil Nil Nil

16. Vitamin B-2 4*64 5*00 6 - s a

* 7- Piperazine & its salts . 99-26 ^6*82

It would be seen that there is no (b) if so, what is the reaction of production of phthalyl Sulphathiazole Government? and Nitrofurazone in the IDPL during the past three years. Nitrofura- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN zone, Griseofulvin and Ofxytetracy- THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS- cline falling in the distribution range (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. of IDPL were canalised for imports through the State Chemicals and (b) The survey report for the Pharmaceutical Corporation of India Bangalore to Mysore conversion project is under examination. No deci- Limited from the year 1977-78 only. In respect of Phthalyl Sulphathia- sion has so far been taken about tak- zole and Metronidazole distribution to ing up the project. the actual users was entrusted to IDPL from the year 1977-78 only. &T* TOT# ^

m i t o t r farr *raT?nT % ?fr inft («ft ?T^T ^ffTOT) : %9T fn 0<5i«i sftrfir *rfccT *rt | oft t srtafk*ff t 5i% *nft ^ 5tii (ftw 3r ^ i^ r t fft 5TR:^fe?tT5t I I srj^sftaft snfa?r |) qr 5r^§t ^mT^ % 1973 ^f ^ ^T Ti^t ^ I ■?r ^ n r : 7 5 w r f o t t 370 +*W OTT 7 0 0 ^ t ? 3 f T I ^HTT Vt Tlftr

sfarar % srtfafsi+ ^q- *r 2806. «ft OT %?f : ^f\TO ( ^ f ^ f ^ J T ) SIT<^I 1970 ¥To WT’Pft ^fhft : % SFrPRT Pi^fdd ^ I * 3 ^ t£*> « rr c * r t j j f t ^TT ^ 3T^ ^TT% sfft fPTT fnyffca ^t t t °h^l f^1 .* ^t w r f ^ f ^ r r srn^ (^r) r H<{l ^TT ff; i?T^W % ^PT ^>T% fe r ft fT5 | f ; «ftr %, ^PT^xT ^TT

|t W t I (^r) ^ r ^f Pf>dH) TTftr ^ft + ?^ i«i ftrfe ^r ^rt f*f>m ^nn ? ^nftfcrrarf *rc% t k s f t r o

inm w ? r m wit («ft ftnr ^ftrr, fafc?sT % *nrm) : (^) 141.24 SpffrT $ 9TRTT *TT% ^FTT t o 1 H*fl ^ I ir ft T s f t 25*TR*T^ 5Tpr f e n 5TRTT ^ I t s p t s r t r o t t t vRnfkcT f, *t t Bales Kgudfai| Pftyment of Compen- 12. 5% sfttton to IUUw s j Victims 3r 2. 5% P

Section 82-J as amended from time Types of Companies Registered in 197? to time. A copy of the latest rules 2809. SHRI PRASANNBHAI is laid in the Table of the House. MEHTA: Will the Minister of LAWr [Placed in Library. See No. LT- JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFF- 1274/77]. AIRS be pleased to state: Talcher Fertilizer Project (a) whether it is a fact that 211 2808. SHRI PRASANNBHAI companies were registered during the MEHTA: Will the Minister of PETRO- month of August, 1977; LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- (b) if so, how many of them were TILIZERS be pleased to state: in limited by shares and how many were in guarantee companies; (a) whether coal based fertilizer (c) the names of States from whicn project at Talcher was delayed by two these companies were registered: years; (d) the authorised capital involved (b) if so, reasons for the delay; in those companies; and (c) whether the cost of expenditure (e) the total number of companies has also increased; and registered upto the end November,. 1977 in the country? (d) if so, by how much? THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM. (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) aiid CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (b). Yes, Sir. 211 companies were (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): registered during the month of /Aug- (a) and (b). The coal based ust, 1977. Of these, 209 were limited fertilizer plant of FCI at Talcher was by shares and 2 were limited by scheduled to be mechanically com- gianftfie*. pleted in July, 1975. However due to (c) and (d). The State-wise distri- delays in the delivery of equipment, bution of these 211 companies and both imported and indigenous, the their authorised capital is given in completion of the project has been the statement annexed. delayed and the project is now expected to be mechanically completed (e) The number of companies re- by December, 1977. gistered after the month of August, 1977 was 222 in September and 217 in (c) and (d). According to the de- October, 1977. The information about tailed project report prepared m the number of companies registered April, 1971 the project was estimated during November, 1977 is not yet to cost Rs. 94.60 crores. The plant is available. However, 125 companies presently estimated to cost about Rs. applied for registration during first 174.12 crores. half of November, 1977,

State-uise the number o f registration o f new companies and their authorised capital during the month o f Aagusi, ig77 Number of registration of new companie * during the month of August, 1977 State/Union Territory Limited Limited Total Authorised by by Capital shares guarantee (Rs. in ’000)

1. Andhra Pradesh ..... 11 n 1,99,49 9. Assam ...... 205 Written Answers DECEMBER 6t 1077 Written Answers 206

I 2 3 4 5

3*Bihar 3 3 1,10,00 4- Gujarat 10 10 62,00 5- Haryana ... .. 6. Himachal Pradesh

7- Jammu & Kashmir .. 8. Karnataka 14 14 48,70 9- Kerala 4 4 20,50 10. Madhya Pradesh 3 •• 3 22,00 11. Maharashtra 65 1 66 5,10,10 12. Manipur •• 13- Meghalaya 1 1 1,00 14. Nagaland . •• •• !5- Orissa 2 2 6,00 16. Punjab 2 •• 2 6,00 17- Rajastiiaa I 1 2 18. Tamil Nadu II 11 *>1*4>99

19- Tripura •• •• 20. Uttar Pradesh . 6 6 24,00 21. West Bengal 42 42 6,61,65 22. Delhi 29 29 1,20,50 23- Chandigarh 3 3 61,00 24. Goa, Daman & Diu 1 1 10,00

25- Pondicherry *• 26. Arunachal Pradesh * 1 •• 1 2,0 O

To t a l 209 2 211 20,52,03

Derailment of Baretlly-Delhi Panes- (b) if so, whefher any sabotage is ger Train suspected in this case; and (c) if so, the facts thereof and the 2810. SHRI PRASANNBHAI action taken? MEHTA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI YASHWANT BOROLE: THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) and pleased to state: (b). Yes. (a) whether it is a fact that a bogie (c) Op 7-11-1977 while 375 Up of 375 Up Bareilly-Delhi passenger Bareilly-Delhi pasenger was running train was derailed on 7th November, between Hakimpur and Kailsa sta- 1977 near Moradahad; tions, the coach marshalled 8th from 207 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 208 the train engine derailed of the lead- ^*TT % ^rnNrff t N" ) ^ fa ’PTT | I

TT3T! JITpfifV Vt W tW lH % ^Ttfr ^ fiTO % +K^I *fkl*d % ^t ^fem^rt fftcft ^r, ^ft 2813. «ft T O : WT ^fhnTV TT^TT f^Wt Jfa’ ?TTT TOTR iftT 3WTV ^TWt % if HT'FTT ^ ^TT% ^t t>MI ^?T fa : vnhrify (^ ) ^RT ^ft ^T ^t f^T- (^ ) ^ TO f«CHT % «TT^ ^ tf *n*T 5TRT f t t, ^ fa^ d*l qjn=£

fftcft ^ I TO T O W % ^f=F ^ T d^TT 5TTt»fd^ i m ft tfro> i . 985 f a f ^ r TO ^ITzfr^T ?TTO Jf Sr^fiTcT t o *ft£< t o t o ^ t t t o «Ft TrraT srf^fro 0.43 v<*m % ro l. 54 fafoTO t o tfrzK ftrf^ro TO 4Vd^ ^vn 1 % TO TO ^5T T| I I TO 5 T ^ R T * t m ^f 5T%- ^ IX TO *fcr 5lfd“ fro 0.2 frrfkro ^fVsr ^rV f^H o. 55 fiTftrro to *rter ^ ft ^hft f^r% Ri5 wwfaw vf$v)) m fd ftf ,t wiw farzw ¥T CRTT ^ 77^ % f?f^“ 5R77F 3ft ^ I TO TO if)Hid I ^T 5ITO ^T I fronrtfa- | i r tr ftrw) % rfhr iT^twer ^TfT ^ fcr cPTT $TTF%^ TO ^toto tvnnzt TO7% irfir STATR ^TT ^ i^HXTcT d*JI TO*T #TT TT^ff t TO W T TO 2814. «ft yiffir^nf : srrfrf^F t o ^r srrofro fen ¥TT ^ TOt TO ^ fTTT % :

^T T^T ^ I iJ^TTRT ^f cPTT STT^>“ (^r) fm Ths^rr (t o t ^ t ftr^ t o ^rnft^T t o *rro t o t o ®pt ^ r o ) %rk ftW t % ^N- TOTO 2.26ftrf*TTO TO 5rRT- 'Sisî ^to t^RrihET (^hr »rrft) fTO % ^S^TTTO ^TT^T ^ I 5TTTWT ^ ^r ^Ftf *TPT JTT^T TO^ %■ ^TTOIT 22firfiTTO TO*fteT |f ^ ^r, ^ F+h 4 s hRiRjî t o t r t r m % ^ ^ ; faf^rsr u i ^+l ^>t °ft ^rro froT tot | I TOTO 60,000 TO T?tZX 5ITfr (^T) ^ ^TTO «ITTWT ^ fd*f> ^NiVtVT^Ft % % M^f^ld ^ f t | ; T 3c*TTTO fa*TT TT T^T ^ ^RTT VrfVT^ % VTOT W WT ^ oZTPTV TO % f«W* f> ^TTtT^ ’IHTOT^ V 5^ VT fiRTX ^ ? fTOf^r ^ T R cRT % vTT% % f^pfr ^4Hr>t fa ff % firt’ ^TfrifiRTV TO % ^ 1WWW 9 TW vft (*ft ftff «qqî4 •T^t f I 5mnm) : (^) tit ?t 1 mUc^< qlf^l^ TO^" % ^ IFptH fvm | Mtnn H ^ WOR 5TT^fin» TO ftF fc&ft iftr to ^nro ^roJ^r ctp wfT fror 1 t^t |, fro^r h*tto 20,000 TO iftST Slldfcf ^PT ^PTFTt «Pt (*) %ftx (it ), fo p ft cftT-

gfasrreff wnft % qrfr- (*i) i9 7 6 % q^ rw ^lM»1 3>t oZTT^rfw ^ TRTT *Fff *tt?t r *ft *nft | sto ^t 1976 % ^ ^rf ^RTTr f^T *TT^ ^T ^ ; mftnff cW ^TR- ^nfeff % +K®1 j f ? ( « ) JWT 3R7R¥Y ^Ft^ftpFT- IRT f^r^ft I ftr^ T ^ n ft 5f TTHf (^ t fifW jn r m ) : (*>) 1976 & ^ t o s t *nft % *rfe ^t, rft ^ P T « f> T T ^PTT t m ci+ 89 >^lfi «rftrfr^f '•i 1 fi *41 1 ^TRft W f t cWT W*iTFT 64 iftfl' CThrrft | ; «ftr mf^rf ^T ^FTT ^PTT *RT I (*r) v i f^ rn ff ^rt ^ ^ srftr- ^>T » w h ^ >d*<*| (^ ) fro% ^ cr^TFTt «Rfar Trfti ^

^ t ot vnNr^t ^ | ? 1977 ^ 40 HfirfoRT ifFT ^Uft fv ^ ft z x ^ rrf m\ 1 ^jtftnW ?RT TFTFBR (

h w Ow t v ^t t ^rpft mfinrt & 4<3h % 7 6 ^ rrf, 77 281*. «ft %o TTlfljfif :

( l ) ^0

*Wl *Tc?t *T*? $>h | «h^

(*T) *TRTPTRT % +K UI the works undertaken by the Railway Construction Corporation of India, a f I | i f q public undertaking? VRrrmw ^Ft ^nft ^Rixt *nfert THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ?fk srfaf^r jfFRTfeflr $ ^nrar THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS | 1 (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): The In- dian Railway Construction Company Discussion with chief of the American Ltd. was set up in 1976 and since Drug Manufacturers Association then this ‘construction unit’ has been registered with important international 2817. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: organisations also. This Company has Will the Minister of PETROLEUM been exploring possibilities of secur- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ing suitable assignments and has also ZERS be pleased to state: started submitting tenders for some major railway projects in the develop- (a) is it a fact that recently the ing countries. Currently the Com- former Ambassador of US to India and pany has undertaken the construction the .present Chief of the American of four road bridges on the proposed Drug Manufacturer’s Association Bajagoli-Malleswara road in Chick- Mr. Sherman Cooper met him; and magalur and South Kanara Districts (b) if so, what discussions were car- of Karnataka State for Kudremukh ried on and on what subject? Iron Ore Company Limited. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- Servieo Condition of Gangmen, etc. in ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): 9. Railway (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. 2819. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Mr. John Sherman Cooper and one Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to of his colleague, both of them asso- state: ciated with an American Law Firm retained by ten American Pharma- (a) whether the representation ceutical Companies doing business in dated 8th October, 1977 by Divisional India, presented the viewpoint of the Secretary, Divisional Railway Em- ployees' Co-ordination Committee, E. American Drug industry operating in Railway, Dhanbad regarding the most India, in so far as it related to the relevant recommendations of the Hatbi deplorable service condition of the Gangmen, Khalasis and particularly Committee on foreign held drug com- the casual Gangmen and their 24- panies: While fully recognising that Point Charter of Demands, has been the subject was one for the sovereign received; and decision of the Government of India, they hoped that there would be an (b) if so, the action taken by the opportunity for discussions so that & Government to improve their service satisfactory relationship could be es- condition and redress these 24-ooint tablished and trade would be fos- Charter of Demands? tered betwen USA and India, they also conveyed the concerned com- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN panies1 interest in continuing to co- THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS operate towards India’s objectives (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes. while maintaining a otable economic (b) The points raised in 'Ihe re- base in India. presentation are under examination. Railway Construction Corporation of India Decision to wind up the Bureau of Petroleum and Chemicals Studies 2818. SHRI BRU BHUSAN TI- WARI: Win the Minister of RAT^> 2820. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will WAYS be pleased to state what are the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 215 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 216

CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Establishment of Committees at pleased to state: various Levels 2821. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will (a) whether a decision has been the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas- taken to wind up the Bureau of Petro- ed to state: leum and Chemicals Studies which has been doing valuable research and (a) whether Government have re- preparatory work in the field of petro- formulated the guidelines for eGtab- leum and chemicals development; lishment of committees at various levels; (b) if so, what are the main rea- (b) if so, details thereof; and sons therefor; (c) the reforms proposed?

(c) whether it is a fact that the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Bureau is being closed as it refused THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS to subordinate its findings ter suit the (SHR SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). convenience of the officials; and The Railway Users’ Consultative Committees at various levels had become unwieldy. These Committees (d) if so, whether the Government are being reconstituted with a view would like to reconsider the decision? to making them compact so that these can be more purposeful and eff- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM ective. AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N BAHUGUNA): Expenditure on Staff Welfare in (a) and (b). The Bureau of Petro- Eastern Railway leum and Chemicals Studies (later 2822. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the renamed as the Bureau of Petroleum Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Studies) was set up in September to state: 1977 by upgrading an earlier organi- (a) whether he has allowed the sation known as the Petroleum In- Eastern Railways to spend Rupees one formation Service. The main objec- crore more on staff welfare due 1o tive of the Petroleum Information Service was to create a climate of better performance of the railway; public opinion in favour of Oil In- (b) if so, whether similar benefits dustry in Public sector. It was not will be given to other railways alse doing any research work. Its main if and when they achieve better activity consisted of bringing out a freight loading performance; and fortnightly journal, namely ‘Oil (c) whether he considers this step Commentary*, which primarily re- will promote healthy competition produced news items from daily pa- among the various railway zones in pers and articles from other journals. improving their performance? With hardly any increase in its acti- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN vities, the expenditure of the Bureau THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS increased steeply. The work being (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) to (c). done by this Bureau was reviewed recently in consultation with Oil and In view of the cooperation and dedi- cated work of all sections of Railway Natural Gas Commission and Indian Oil Corporation. The Bureau wns employees resulting in satisfactory performance of the Railways, the wound up as with the change in the Government of India sanctioned a pattern of Oil Industry in the country sum of Rs. 15 crores for Staff Wel- there was no need for its further fare works to be taken up on all the continuance. Zonal Railways, production units etc. Out of this Eastern railway’s allot- (c) and (d). Do not arise. ment is Rs. 2 crores. 217 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 218 Staff Position in Headquarters on the 1971-72, no other high power commit- Spitting of F & tee has gone into the reasons of poor management and losses incurred by 2823. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PAN- it. DEYA: Will the Minister of PET- ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state:

(a) the total staff strength of all 2 82 5. ¥To WRsftaTTTiror : the headquarters of the four new +MI ^ f»,TT fa : companies to be carved out of the Fertilizer Corporation of India; and ( * r ) t o t q ? | f a (b) the present staff strength of the fewfaFT it *n r*R T< Central Office of the Fertilizer Cor- tTFTflTSff t^To tr*To §fWT§ poration of India Ltd.? xftx THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM, (sr) qfk $t, m wvft t t CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) % TOT and (b). The staff strength of the *R * rt ? Central Office of the Fertilizer Cor- poration of India as on 30-6-1977 was VIWW if TTUT ('ft fifTC 651. The staff strengths of the headquarters of the companies that would n rn in ): ( ? ) 1 be formed after F.C.I. re-organisation have not been fixed. (sr). ept %*R*T*Pi «T5n% ^Ft fa Government thereon? (^f>) t o t n rR n rf xf\x THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ^pfsrrfinft % ©irfapff THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS TTfrfTTT ST# 2FTrT % (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) ^ n i c it f t ^tt T fV sfrc and (b). While the Action Committee on Public Undertakings made the (W) *ft 1976-77 tftT study of organisational aspect of Fer- tilizer Corporation of India during 1977-78 * fa^R TR7T *T 219 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 220

TT^rar vhr?n % fr o t fe ^ ff TTftr 3?t S^TWT St ^ 3^t +I^Wdl 5Ftft?rfir ^cTTT fen* ipr^ff sTfafefor ^ t i ^ *r£ ?

fafa, sftr 3»w h ^ ih u WTT^hT ^TCV f^ m fft fni^i VTT 3>T ^fTTWHTsft t o * ) : (^ ) f?rfsr^ ^ f f 3ft ’jfir % ^ ^

^3»faT ^ fci% 2 82 7. «ft JpTTT STFsft : ^Tflf-^T x tfirm ?rk ^ jfo 3?t fSF*: 3HT 3T ¥Y ti

%n$gf9RT aManfaff ifk/^TTfFXrfrot ^ ft % + mh Y s^iqai (*?) ^T, ?ft ^3n vfofflfyff 3?t rtSffifh % ^TYR 3*n ^ ?flT ft « 4 3ft ^ 3iT*NTfft 3>t s^rkT 3?n | ? (w ) ftr^TT TT^T # ^T% fr o s vf #3ST $T ^ 1976-77 tfft qftftww !WT t o t r ^ ^ t t w: 1977-78 %

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM JThe fees paid for licence/process AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- know-how, design engineering and ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): other services to M/s. Toyo Engineer- (a) and (b). No statistics of such ing Corporation of Japan for the applications are maintained. If job Bhatinda and Panipat projects are not applications addressed to the Minis- comparable with the fees paid for try for jobs in Public Sector Under- technical services to foreign contrac- takings under its administratiye con- tors for fuel oil based projets set up trol are received, they are ordinarily by the Fertilizer Corporation of India forwarded to the concerned Public for the following reasons : Sector Undertakings for disposal on (i) The capacity of the urea plants merits. at Bhatinda and Panipat is 15S0 tonnes per day as against a capacity of World Bask aided Fteftilfeer Projects thousand tonnes per day at Nangal and National Fertilisers Ltd. Projects and Sindri Modernisation; (ii) The scope of work done by 2829. SHRI BHANU KUMAR SHAS- the various parties is not identical TRI : Will the Minister of PETRO- as between the two sets of plants. LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- TILIZERS be pleased to state: (iii) The contracts in respect of Nangal were finalised in. 1972-73, (a) whether the Fertilizer Corpora- t. e., prior to the oil crisis, whereas tion of India has undertaken some the contracts for the NFL plants World Bank aided fertilizer projects were finalised two years later. such as Nangal Expansion, Sindri Modernisation, etc. in which the However, while approving the con- technical fees have shown a big sav- tracts between National Fertilizer ing compared to the National Fertili- and Toyo, Government took into con- zers Limited projects which have been sideration the fees paid in respect of undertaken by M/s. TOYO of Japan; Nangal Project and were satisfied that the fees were reasonable. (b) in spite of this why is the construction of the Mathura fertilizer i(c) An Indian Engineering compa- plant being givn to M/s. TOYO of ny, namely M/s. Engineers India Ltd. Japan; and are the principal Indian contractors in the execution of the two projects at (c) why the contracts for con- Bhatinda and Panipat. M/s. Engineers structing the three plants of National India Ltd., together with M/s. Toyo Fertilizers Limited have not been Engineering Corporation of Japan given to some Indian Company such have the total responsibility for pro- as the Fertilizer Corporation of India per and timly excution of the pro- Limited? jects. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM, CHE- I omen of F.CX MICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI 2830. SHRI , BHANU KUMAR JANESWAR MISHRA) : (a) and (b). SHASTRI: Will the Minister of PET- M/s. National Fertilizers Limited has ROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND been entrusted with the construction FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: of only two fuel oil based fertilizers plants respectively at Bhatinda and (a) whether the ageing of Sindri Panipat. Government have not ap- Unit and sub-standard imported proved the setting up of a fertilizer equipment at Durgapur Unit; plant at Mathura and the question of awarding a contract for the construc- (b) whether power limitation in tion of Mathura fertilizer plant does Nangal and Gorakhpur Units are not, therefore, arise. major factors contributing to the 223 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 224

losses of the Fertilizer Corporation of ed. Matters coming within the scope of India; and Companies Act and MRTP. Act are being examined by the Expert Com- (c) how is the above situation go- mittee presently reviewing these two ing to be remedied simply by split- Acts. Further action in this regard ting up the Fertilizer Corporation of will be taken by the Government on India into four independent com- receipt of the report of the Expert panies? Committee.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM, CHE- STATEMENT MICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHA) : (a) and (b). Copy of Memorandum dated the 2nd The factors like ageing of plants at November, 1977 addressed to Shri Sindri shortage of power at Nangal Shanti Bhushan, Minister of Law, and Gorakhpur and defective equip- Justice and Company Affairs regarding ment at Durgapur have, to some ex- corporate malpractices. tent, contributed to the losses incurred by F.C.I. 1. Ruthless and wicked indifference of Top Management to interests of (c) While specific steps like renova- equity shareholders, paying them no tion and modernisation of ageing or negligible dividends, while grossly plants, replacement of defective equip- mismanaging the company, indulg- ment, establishment of captive power ing in malpractices and Napotism to generation facilities etc. are being feather their own nests at share- taken to overcome these constraints, holders expenses. 1 the scheme of the reorganisation of F.C.I. is intended to bring about an 2. Companies not producing to full improvement in the operation of capacity, often to about 40 per cent of plants and in the implementation of it, thus artificially creating scarcity to projects. benefit by a seller’s market, in which exhorbitant prices can be charged, to cover in-efficiency, mal-practices and Views of national dhare-holders forum proveness of top management to slack- on malpractices by corporate sector ness as a result of taking life easy, though causing heart-breaking distress 2831. SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN to consumers, sometimes hoarding back NAIR: Will the Minister of LAW, as shocks, some of what is produced, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS to aggravate shortage conditions to be pleased to state: put up prices further. (a) whether the National forum of 3. Top Management appoints, rela- share-holders has submitted a paper to him listing a number of malpractices tives or friends as sole-selling agents, followed by the corporate sector to the with liberal commissions, sharing this detriment of share-holders; and syphoning of company’s funds with them, to the detriment of shareholders (b) if so, what are the details there- and creating sufficient scarcity condi- of and Government’s reaction there- tions of the commodity for selling to? agents to pass °n to Top Management as substantia portion of the money THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE they receive from consumers under AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI duress, under the table. SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) A copy of the Memorandum 4. Companies present rosy and bright submitted by National Form of Share- pictures in prospectus, to attract the holders is given the statement, annex- gullible public to invest, following HP 225 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 with well times brochures, indicating and over, but boost profits and divi- projects spectacular progress and most dends at consumers expense, contribu- alluring dividends in the near future, ting their quota to inflation consumer thus leading the investors like don- buys at 200 per cent of the price of key’s with carrots dangled ahead, imported counterpart. He would feel while suppressing the most depressing if in heaven, if he can buy the indi-’ actual performance from the share- genous item at near half the price he holders, who are bluffed in A.G.M.’s now pays. and who after years of patient waiting, ultimately wakened upto disaster. 10. The Managing Director controls Meanwhile the well timed brochures, the Board, instead of the Board direct- promising large dividends, bring about ly the Managing Director. the intended shareboom, the promoter group of the top management, who 11. Managing Director, a full time are in the know of things, make half employee of the Company with the while the sun shines (or the boom Board conniving gets involved in run- lasts) by selling most of their hold- ning several business of his own, to the ings to recover a great deal more than detriment of the company which pays what they invested in the first in- him a fabulous salary, besides provid- stance, besides returning sizeable lots ing attractive perquisites. of shares in the company. 12. The Managing Director receives (barring exceptions) commissions on 5. Defaulting to convene A.G B.M. s for years or convening them very mass or purchases of a revenue or late, instead of 6 months after the end capital nature. of the working year, to wilfully keep 13. Top Management letting out con- the shareholders in the dark. tracts to their relatives or friends without inviting competitive tenders, 6. Companies resorting to long ges- on rates more than lucrative to enable tation period excuse for many years it to share the loot with the contrac- upto and even beyond a decade, in- tors. stead of smartly stepping up produc- tivity to dividend paying stage and to 14. Top management, receiving their step it up to higher levels for improv- cut, from sale of company’s property, ing dividends to optimum. by organised theft. It also benefits by commission on replacement equip- 7. Appointment of unqualified rela- ment purchased. tives of Top management or persons in whom they are interested, to key 15. Presenting lumped together pro- positions carrying vast salaries and fits and loss accounts of several units perquisites, who comfortably shed of one concern mixing profit making their youth and grow in to mellowed units, with those incurring losses old age, remaining ignorant, which ap- causing confusion making it difficult to pearing to serve the company with probe into operation of losing units to negative contributions, ultimately improve their working. landing the company in an irretriev- able morass. * ^ ^ 16. Top Management allotting sole selling agency to relative or friend on 8. Resorting to frequent price hikes, liberal commission, to syphon away after long gestation to pay dividends, substantial portion of company's funds, instead of putting down inefficiency to the detriment of shareholders. firmly. 17. Building up of reserves, with 9. Companies due to price prefe- shareholders’ money to the extent of rence have no urge to produce at mi- twice or even thrice equity capital, nimum competitive prices to capacity as insurance against possible future 2 8 5 6 —L.S.— 8 - 327 Written Answers DECEMBER 1977 Written Answers 228 losses, without ever attempting to issue 22. The representatives of financial bonus shares, in shareholders, out oi institutions, thus compromised through reserves, which legitimately belong to the efforts of the tackles, lean entirely them. towards management, without getting involved in looking after the interests 18. To the detriment of shareholders, of the minority shareholders, which investing in sister companies, substan- differ from their’s and which are tial amounts, borrowing the same at satisfied by regular payment of inte- 2.5 times of interest rate from banks, rest on loans and pleased return of when compared to meagre dividend capital in instalments. So it would not prospects of sister companies. serve any purpose, to look up to fian- cial institutions to look after even while being on the Board, the interests 19. Abnormal delay in distribution of minority shareholders. of compensation money to shareholders, on government taking over a 23. Selling assets to relatives or concern leading to suspicion or actual friends of top management at incredi- misappropriation of funds in the inter- bly low prices without advertising or vening period. y inviting tenders and seeking post facto shareholders approval. 20. Bad debts owed by firms, in which directors are interested, are 24. Liberal contribution to political written off, eventually after years 0 funds of party in power, contravening in action, instead oi promptly taking section 293 of Compa;nie^ Act. / legal steps for recovery.

21. The Managing Director, or one in Production of Nylon Tarn his confidence, is the tackles or fixer 2832. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL : of the company. The tackles looks Will the Minister of PETROLEUM after the representatives' of the finan- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI cial institutions, very well. Air fares ZERS be pleased to state: or A.C. Train fares, sometimes for the families as well, tours of sight seeing (a) the total quantity of nylon yam and pilgrimage, amounting all paid produced in the country annually; holidays, duration and expense no (b) what is the requirement of consideration stay with families in ex- nylon yarn of the country for pro- pensive hotels when accompanied by ducing nylon cloth; and them; Expensive gifts to families madame’s whim, becoming the tack- (c) the action taken by Govern- ler’s pleasure; when unencumbered by ment to meet the requirement? families, the representative’s weak- nesses are catered to flooding him with THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM his favourite bevarages and satisfying AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- him with edible or other flesh. Even ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : the relatives of representatives and (a) Total production of Nylon yarn friends of Financial Institutions are during the year 1976-77 is 16,719 ton- thus looked after the tackles ensuring nes and 8,293 tonnes in 1977-78 (April- for all more than V. L. R. treatment. Septambery. Such expenditure is smuggled into (b) The requirement of Nylon yam the company’s accounts, under the for the weaving sector is estimated at head miscellaneous expenses, without approximately 20,000 tonnes in the ex- details or if details are given of mis- isting situation. cellaneous expenditure, most of it is invariably fudged on under some other (c) The short fall in indigenous convenient head, which is not likely to availability of Nylon Filament Yarn be probed. is met by imports. 229 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

Loss due to lack of checking in trains not so far submitted their returns of election expenses. Out of 159 candi- 2833. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAI- dates, independent candidates num- 3DU: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS ber 158 and one candidate belongs to be pleased to state: the C.P.I. (a) whether it is a fact that most of the passenger trains are un- (b) 3 candidates have been dis- manned by checking staff; and qualified under section 10 of the Rep- resentation of the People Act, 1951. (b) whether* it is a fact that the Show cause notices have been issued passenger trains are losing much to the remaining 156 candidates as to income due to lack of checking why they should not be disqualified specially on Pakala-Dharmavaram- for not submitting the returns. Xatpadi sections? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bengal Chemical MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN) : (a) To make ticket checking more effective, squad 2835. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND working of travelling ticket exami- CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be ners has been introduced and all pas- pleased to state: senger trains are subjected to checks •on a programmed basis. First class (a) whether the pioneer Chemical corridor coaches are manned by atten- industry known as Bengal Chemical dants and all second class coaches with set up by Acharya P. C. Ray in 1901 is reserved accommodation are manned in bad shape due to financial and by travelling ticket examiners. managerial difficulties;

(b) Frequent surprise checks on a (b) if so, facts thereabout; programmed basis are conducted on all passenger trains, including those run- (c) whether representations have ning on the Pakala-Dharmavaram- been made for saving this pioneer Katpadi sections, to plug leakage of Chemical industry; Tevenues due to ticketless travel. (d) if so, facts thereabout; and Submission of Election Returns by contestants of Lok Sabha Elections (e) the reaction of the Government thereto? 2834. DR. V. A. SEYID MUHAM- MAD : Will the Minister of LAW, THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- “be pleased to state: ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) (a) to (e). During the last few years (a) the number of candidates the working of the Bengal Chemical (Party-wise) who contested the last and Pharmaceuticals Works Limited, general elections for Lok Sabha and Calcutta, had deteriorated and various have not so far submitted returns of complaints were received by Govern- their election expenses; and ment. On the basis of certain complaints, the Department of Company (b) the action taken by Govern. jnent against such candidates? Affairs ordered an inspection under Section 209(4) of the Companies Act, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1956. The IRCI and Union Bank of "MINISTRY OF LAW, JUSTICE AND India had also formed a study team on COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI NAR- Bengal Chemical and Pharmaceuticals SINGH YADAV) : (a) 159 candi- Works consisting of experts from the dates out of 2439 candidates who con- Industry, Industrial Adviser. DGTD, tested the Lok Sabha elections have and experts from Union Bank of Indie 231 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers

and I.R.C.I. The reports submitted by showing the names of dominant under- them indicates the mismanagement of takings registered under the MRTP the company which has resulted in fall Act, the value of their assets and their in production and heavy losses. annual income as reflected in the profits before tax is laid on the Table of In view of all this, Government the House. [Placed in Library. See ordered on investigation under Section No. LT—1275/77]. 15 of the I.D.R. Act for making full and complete investigation of the company. The report of the Committee is (c) to (e). Department of Company tinder consideration of Government. Affairs is concerned with the administration of the MRTP Act. In so far as approvals or rejections of the pro- Latest Assessment of Monopoly Indus- posals, under the said Act, from the trial dominant undertakings during the last 2836. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will three years are concerned, a statement the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND showing details thereof is laid on the COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to Table of the House. [Placed in Lib- state: rary. See No. LT-1275/77].

(a) names of the industries which, according to latest assessment fall within the category of monopoly in- fte qr j h dustry; / (b) facts about their financial as- 2837- TTO STEW fcnTO : sets and annual income: t o t tfr fqT (c) whether fresh licences have ft> : been given to these monopoly industries during last three years; (v) ^ (d) if so, facts thereabout; and STOFTT 5RT $ T m i Z ft* 'K W TO M facPTT (e) the facts about refusal of fresh licences to those monopoly industries f*T ; during the same period?

THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (%r) t ot ^ 5 ? t ^t w AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI ^TFT 3TT-3K ^T?ft gCTdHritf SHANTI BHUSHAN) : (a) and (b). According to the provisions of section ESTR f%*TT TOT *TT STtT 26 of the Monopolies and Restrictive *m r^§*TT Trade Practices Act, 1969, undertak- ^ TOfft? =Ftf *ft 5Pfl*T +

r qT ir ings produce or provide not less than STTW I ; srffa l/3rd of any goods or services produced oi“ rendered in India and have assets of not less than 1 crore of (*l) Jlft dt TOT w wrt ? rupees, therebyattracting section 20(b) of the said Act, are required to register themselves with the Central v t finri^r t o ! t o t ? Government. It is presumed that the “ monopoly industry” referred to in ^ innsra 9 ftrr part (a) of the question refers to such undertakings. Accordingly, a statement snrnro) : (^) 3. 42 t o \ 233 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 234 (^T) ^TR WK ^TT-^nT (*?) ?5T *2*Fff % ?lf^Tfw)r * t ffcft «ft ^nr«r stwt *Ft f® ¥r wwt ^ % ^ "pr •ptptt w *it 1 qr j t im «T«rt?Hf t*r srwr^PT *f fs«uj % *r 'jpTrfT ?r f T ^ I | i ^'rf ftnFiM frn=ff | 1 Foreign experts working with ONGC (»r) (? ) sftr (9 ) % 2839. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- ^rn: gq *ii4w ^ TA : Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- ^WT ^TTcTT ’ TILIZERS be pleased to state: 3WRJR Ho (a) the number of foreign experts working with ONGC and other agencies engaged in oil exploration; 2838. rm jw i* 4w«pw : 4m 1 fTCT +^T (b) if so, reasons and steps to re- fip : place them by Indian experts; and (^ ) 197 0 if ft«TOT ^^P»TT, (c) the number of Indian experts loaned to Gulf countries for oil explo- Whra qr fa>?rc cYo jto *rfc *rt ration; country-wise; and the details ÎTTRt ^T«T ?TT SflX ^ m foft of the contracts entered into in this regard and their advantages to India? +1 ilftl^ SWT d*tl IHd ^ S ft STnTFftTt RTR Jf TS% ftr THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM tferr faffsft |; srk AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : ( *sT) WT "m fVn'f sreJfT (a) to (c). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table % +KU| h3.*iIhY ft of the House. ^ ^ srVr lift «[T, d“t w r 9XsrrT ^nr- ¥ t*m r Jr %spt Assessment of works done by Burmah m n w Jf m w >WI () flftfW WWT TILIZERS be pleased to state: 1970 1977 (a) whether any review or assessment has been made of the work of IJIWTW WSR the three oil companies viz. Burmah Shell, Caltex and Esso after their (i) fcpi ftfsiff take over by Government; (b) if so, details and steps taken to (ii) 108 110 streamline working of these companies; w V H i w (c) whether any steps have been taken to bring the salaries of the staff (i) ^ fiats 9 9 working in these companies at par with the staff of IOC; and (ii) «r=*r +h^r1 271 26a (d) if not, reasons therefor? 235 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 236 THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM right to terminate the agencies under AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- the agreement with the Distributor. ZERS (SHRlH.N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). Performance of the erstwhile (b) With a view to discourage any oil companies after their takeover are monopolistic trend, a ceiling on the continuously monitored and reviewed, number of customers with each LPG like that of other public sector oil distributorship of IOC has already companies, by the Ministry of Petro- been prescribed. As regards mal-prac- leum with the assistance of the Oil tices by the dealers (Distributors;, Coordination Committee. the agreement with the Distributor provides that the agency can be ter- (c) and (d). Salary structures of minated for malpractices. the staff of these companies have been histprically different from the struc- (c) and (d). There is no proposal ture applicable ip the staff of Indian at present for fixing the period of Oil Corporation. Salaries of unionised allotment of gas agencies or for* staff are guided by Long Term Settle- auctioning them. Auctioning of Indane * ments and changes can be effected agencies for a fixed period may pre- only when new Long Term Settle- sent difficulties to the new dealers in ments are negotiated with such union- making necessary investments for pro- ised staff. As regards the Management viding necessary facilities, like go-^ Staff of the erstwhile foreign oil down, show-room, telephone, delivery companies, there are several conside- vehicles, staff, etc., and for smooth rations which have a bearing on the running of the agency to the satis- question of re-structuring of their faction of the consumers. Auctioning- salaries. These considerations need to of the agencies will also lead to agen- be carefully examined before a final cies being awarded to the highest bid- decision is taken. der rather than to those considered most suitable under the policy guidelines issued by Government. Allotment of Indane Gas Agencies on perpetual basis Licensed hawkers at Howrah Station 2841. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- T A : Will the Minister of PETRO- 2842. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER- TA : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS TILIZERS be pleased to state: be pleased to state: (a) whether at present Indane Gas (a) what is the number of licensed/ Agencies are allotted on perpetual hawkers at Howrah Station of Eastern * basis and not for a fixed period; Railway; (b) whether this policy has led to (b) is not the presence of a very monopolistic trend and gas dealers are large number of unlicensed hawkers’ indulging in malpractices; and in the Station premises creating pas- (c) whether Government are think- senger inconvenience as well as loss ing to flx the period of allotment of of revenue to the Railways; and gas fluencies or to auction them; and (c) if the answer to (b) be in the (d) if not, the reasons therefw* affirmative what steps Government contemplate for removal of such un- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM authorised hawkers from Howrah Sta- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- tion premises? ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) Indane Gas Agencies, are allot- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THIT ted without specifying any period but MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI the Indian Oil Corporation has the SHEO NARAIN) : (a) Seventy-nine, 237 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 238 including five trolleys for train-side (*r) (i) fcr w h w r f vending. «ro*ra ( 6- 3-1976 If 20- 8- (b) and (c). Some reports have 77 w g) ^K+iOsftrflrHHwO been received about unauthorised sncir % ^ I ilT-^RTT3H ÎTrftxr ®7TTR trffiftrwH't keep the station free from this nui- % srfMkfa', ffa sance. j it o ^ 2843. «fr SWrc fa i : PWW+ WSW ITRW i M sftrfw (1973 W *rfew) w t ii? sen* fifl (ii)5*r sfaftr h flxvrtt irk «tt- f¥ : T O f t SHT ST^TT % *PRJT_$ I *5T *isfr s*r% srww $ 1 fa-*r«Tft *rT*d>i<44! c m ; ^T5^*ff t 5575, wfaw w& <0 ^ n f r (« ) fsr «fa%?rr % f? ^ff,*nmOTJfTT*nrff% «fiw (q ) ^•T^PT 1IT9TT 7T f^*^TT *P1T 2844. «ft w i fti? : sir ? WT ®T? 35TT% $41 f r : »nn*w t w *nft («rt ftra p «nmwt) : (* ) % *rara* sm (^) w ifsi^r ir t t sj t irfsfi *rt# Tm m ?»r ^ Tramq- it swrr % 'Isw ri ®T Sfrm 15I W>T ft I tnp ?rrfo IT© Too irfeTrft t t (^ ) 3s?tt 1 f«ivm it fe n m ; (»r) ^t t % ?kpr rT^5f.TrTt-T ^5T *iW f k TTtfm h f tgxj. (^) wr ^ | fe 5T fe?r % rnn^m t t t w Mf (^r) ftf, eft ^TT W l (b) whether this company is producing several drugs items with Indus- t i tik trial licence under the cover of Regis- tration Certificates; and (^ ) W ^T% ^T- ^rfnff if ^ fttft (c) details of items they are pro- ITTTt^ft % STOTT qT fe^T *PTT *TT, ducing under Registration Certificates in 1952, items produced during the srfe ^t, eft w if er^Tr^ last three years—item-wise, with ^TT | I licence number and imports of raw materials allowed? *niTSVQf if t f r («ft few THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM m v m ): (^) % (u). *ft i AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- »i¥O if ^<4 TT^T ^T?T irffirVTXt ^t ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : fO T if ^TTT (a) Yes; Sir. M/s. Pfizer have been found producing “Protinex” without a ^ IrfWrtV 1500- specific licence under I (D&R) Act 2000 W t % ^T TT^ «TT fftT and marketing it as a drug item with- 5N%d niimiY % ’MîT ^T qcHnR out obtaining price approval under the Drugs (Prices Control) Order. They *T fafifa ^PT^> % faitft ^T were issued to show cause notices * $ ( ftnrr 3TT êTT «TT, ^ ft T under I (D&R) Act and DPCO 1970. *TT# *T*T if 3TTH sbf fen *P1T I Replies received from them are under consideration in consultation with ^ttRt v tT^ wRrftr^F gorn; f^rnr Ministry of Law. rr^TT ftrT #9M2T % *H*fkH % / >o (b) The company possess both a ^T^HTV % if xdH^V dHldt *Rfel Registration Certificate and Industrial ( 17—8—77 # 2 2 -8 -7 7 ) Licences for production of drug items. 1500—2000 Fo ^ #ciHhH ^T ft^fad (c) Two Statements furnishing (i) f+*t *FT SRtTT^ ^ I the names of the bulk drug, Quantity produced during 1973; 1974 and 1975 (*) *T* if TT^ % and industrial licences under which fcffar qqftd^ if Piêrrl produced and (ii) similar information in respect of formulations produced *nt tr^j frfy«=PRt ^t ^m rf under Registration Certificate/Indus- ^t s r n m ^ ^ ^rf «ft, trial Licences are laid on the Table of wf^nr Km<(\ tHlU ^Hhd ^t the House. Placed in Library. See No. LT-1276/77], i i i The value of raw material imported Violation of drni price, control order by them was as under: by M /s. Pfizer 1973 Rs. 17.63 lacs 2845. PROF. R. K. AMIN: Will 1974 Rs. 40.48 ” the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 1975 Rs. 41.64 ” CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: Issue of licences to M /s. Pfizer (a) whether M|s Pfizer established 2846. PROF. R. K. AMIN : Will the production of Protinex after violating Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE- I (D&R) Act, Drug Price Control MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be Order and Import Trade Control pleased to state: Policy; if so, what action Government (a) whether Mjs Pfizer was granted have taken against them; licences with condition to export their -241 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 242 production beyond items of Tetracy- (ii) 25 per cent of the actual pro- clines; if so details of licences based duction of Tetracycline in value will on this item and the nature of export be exported annually from 1966-67. Obligation; A Bond to this effect should be executed in consultation with the (b) whether this issue was referred Ministry of Commerce. to the Ministries of Commerce and 3. M/s. Pfizer were granted a fur- Xaw and what are their findings; and ther expansion on 13-7-67 from (c) if not} under what authority, 3,000 kgs. of Tetracycline to 5,000 kgs. and from 7,000 kgs. of Oxy-tetra- Ministry has accepted the discharge cycline to 9,000 kgs. under Licence >of the obligations? No. L/22/37/67-A&I. This expasion THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM was subject to the following obligations:— AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (i) At no stage should the plant be (a) to (c). Export obligations were capable of producing more than imposed in licences granted to M/s. 14,000 kgs. per annum of tetra- Pfizer for manufacture of two pro- cycline; ducts, i.e. Chloropropamide and Tetra- (ii) Production in excess of 10 cyclines. For Chloropropamide the tonnes of Tetracycline shall be ex- company were granted Industrial ported, unless Government by prior Licence No. C:IL:215(74), dated approval give permission to sell any 20-7-74 for substantially expanding part of it in the country; In the production from 1.5 tonnes per annum first year 4 tonnes must be exported; to 6.5 tonnes per annum with the con- (iii) Irrespective of the actual dition that they would export at least quantity of tetracyclines exported 20 per cent of additional production of from the second year onwards, as Chloropropamide (i.e. in excess of 1.0 above, a total of Rs. 15 lakhs an- ■tonnes) for a period of five years. nually of Tetracycline and other As regards Tetracyclines, requisite items of pharmaceuticals must be details are furnished in the enclosed exported as an average over five .Statement. years. This export of Rs. 15 lakhs should be over and the current level Statement of exports. M/s Pfizer Limited were granted a (iv) The commitment to export licence for manufacture of Tetracy- 25 per cent of the initial capacity of clines on 28-1-60 with a capacity of 20 tonnes of Tetracyclines, in value, 2000 kgs. of Tetracycline and 300 kgs. remains. There would, however, be of Oxytetracycline. no objection to the export of tetracycline and other items of pharma- 2. The company was granted an ex- ceuticals provided the total value of pansion of capacity on 21-9-65 from 2500 kgs. of Tetracyclines will be “2000 kgs. to 3000 kgs. of Tetracycline calculating factor. and from 3000 kgs. to 7000 kgs. of Oxy- 4. The issue of execution of export tetracycline. The following two condi- bond by the party in relation to the tions regarding export obligation were above mentioned export obligations imposed in respect of such expansion: has been examined in consultation (i) Additional foreign exchange with the Ministry of Law, Ministry of required for the import of raw mate- Commerce, Chief Controller of Im- rials in connection with the manu- ports and Exports and D.G.TJ5. and facture of additional 5000 kgs. of the following view has been taken: — Tetracycline would be earnd by (1) Export obligation for both the •export under export incentive approvals should be for a period of ‘scheme; and 5 years only. 243 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers (2) In case the export obliga- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions have been fulfilled it would MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI not be necessary to obtain an Ex- SHEO NARAIN): (a) The Estimates port Bond at this stage. Committee had recommended that electrification of 8800 route Kms. of rail*- (3) The obligation of M/s. Pfiaer way track should be effectively imple- was to export all production in ex- mented from 5th Plan to 7th Plan. eess of 10 tonnes, even if it exceeded 1* tonnes. (b) Yes, it is proposed to achieve the (4) The export obligation of same objective, but by limiting the Rs. 15 lakhs per annum is a mini- scope to 48OO Kms. due to limitation cf funds. mum obligation and not their total obligation. (c) The amount saved depends on (5) The export obligation should the extent of electrification and traffic be computed in terms of value. densities. 5. From the documents made avail- (d) Non-availability of funds from able by M/s. Pfizer, it ha?, been veri- Planning Commission is the main c fied that against the export obligation straint in achieving the targets setter of Rs. 471 lakhs on the above basis, Railway Electrification. the firm’s actual exports towards meeting obligation upto March, 1977 was of the order of Rs. 432 lakhs. Thus the balance of export obligation yet 2 8 '18. HTFT to be discharged by the firm amounts to Rs. 39 lakhs. The firm has been advised to execute an Export Bond f spn firfcr, for Rs. 39 lakhs to be fulfilled by September, 1978. i') t'Mi : ^ (^) WT 4 1977 % Additional Electrification of 620# Route ELM. by 1988 T ^ th Jr y+'iftra ^ srro w r n fajresr, o 2847. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: ^ ill the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: *w i F*.* ^ ^ if, faita *r trfy+Rr (a) whether 77th Report of the Estimates Committee, 1975-76 made a q q if^ % recommendation to the Government sftr (b) whether such project would have saved indigenous capacity and (^ ) qtiuM R-^frl Jf expertise developed for electrification % *R+K !PJT project during the years 1957—69; ^ v (c) whether such expansion of electric traction would have saved Rs. 90 crores per year over diesel and steam m*r (aft i i o t ) : (^) traction; and ft I (d) if so, the reasons for not giving (^3") jppt *i I -hH I effect to the recommendation of the Estimates Committee? t t st ferr | i 245 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 Upgrading of Jbarsaguda Railway the survey is carried out, reports exa- Station mined and the project is cleared by the Planning Commission. 2849. SHRI GANANATIi PRADHAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (c) Construction of only one new pleased to state: line project viz; Tirunelveli-Trivan- drum/Kanyakumari which falls partly (a) whether there is any proposal to in Kerala is in hand at present. The upgrade the Jharsaguda Railway construction of the portion of the line station junction in view of large num- falling in Kerala is likely to be com- ber of passengers and which is one of pleted in about one year. the centrally located Railway stations; and Expansion of Cochin Fertilizer Project (b) any proposal for remodelling 2851. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW rest rooms, lodgings etc. for the wel- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM fare of the station? AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether FACT plan for the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI phase III expansion of the Cochin, SHEO NARAIN): (a) No. Fertilizer Project will be accepted; and (b) No. At Jharsuguda adequate fa- (b) whether the Cochin refinery will cilities like Retiring rooms, Waiting be expanded to process more crude oil,, rooms, Platform covers, Goods Shed. so that the phase III fertilizers project Parcel Office, etc., commensurate with at Cochin is benefited? the volume of traffic dealt with, have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE already been provided. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Railway Line from Ankamatt to FERTILIZERS (SHRI JANESHWAR l&adurai MISHRA): (a) and (b). No, Sir. FACT had proposed the expansion of the fer- 2850. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: tilizer manufacturing facilities at Co- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be chin by setting up additional nitroge- pleased to state: nous capacity based on fuel oil as feedstock. This project could not be con- (a) whether Government propose to sidered during the Fifth Plan Progra- make a cost-cum-feasibility study of a mme on account of severe constraints railway line from Ankamali in Erna- on resources, which necessitated kulam District along the foot hills of shelving of certain projects included in Kerala via Muvattupuzha to M&durai; the plan Programme. if Government of Kerala is willing to provide the funds for the above; A project at Cochin can only be based on fuel oil as the feedstock. In (b) if the proposed railway line is view of the advantages of the use of found to be feasible and remunerative, gas as fertilizer feedstock, preference whether Government propose sanc- is being given for setting up additional tioning the work immediately; and fertilizer capacity baaed on associate gas available from the Bombay High (c) when will the railway lines a*ea and Assam, The Cochin project already under construction in Kerala would, therefore, have a low priority be finished? and may not qualify for sanction in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the near future. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) Yes, Sir. No such Absorption of displaced persons in proposal from the Government of Ke- Cochin Fertilizer Project rala, has however been received in re- 2852. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: cent years. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (b) The question of sanctioning of AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- the project can be decided only after ZERS be pleased to state whether 247 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 248 -those persons who were displaced made by the Central Government to from the site of the Cochin Fertilizer the MJELTP. Commission under sec- Project will be given preference for tion 31 of the M.R.T.P. Act for enquiry jobs there, according to their ability? and report into the following monopolistic trade practices alleged to be in- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dulged into by the company: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHB1MICALS AND FERTILIZERS (i) Paying a high rate of royalty (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): Yes, at the rate of 5 per cent of the gross rtjSir. The Fertilizers And Chemicals price of such chocolate products to Travancore Limited nas already em- its parent holding company in the ployed 155 persons from this category. United Kingdom, parti culary when the nature of such products does not \Charges against M/s. Cadbury India involve sophisticated technical konw- Limited how or innovation; 2853. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (ii) excessive payment of retail- Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE ers margin upto 18 per cent to 20 AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased per cent of the trade price of such to state: products; (a) whether M/s. Cadbury India (iii) earning profits of above 40 per -Limited is the branch of a multi- cent of the total capital employed by national Corporation; the said company; (b) if so the details of its capital (iv) unreasonably increasing the ^structure; prices of such chocolate products for a number of years so as to earn un- (c) whether the company was charg- reasonable profits by taking undue ed by the MRTPC with monopolistic advantage of the monopolistic posi- and restrictive tradfe practices; tion of the company; and (d) if so, the specific charges against (v) not reducing the incidence of the company; and the administrative overheads of the company, particularly their adverti- (e) what action, if any, has been sement expenses taken against the company on the basis of the charges against it? The said reference was challanged by the company through a writ peti- THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE tion in the High Court of Delhi. Stay AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI orders were obtained by the company SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) M/s. Cad- on 26th April, 1974 and the proceed- bury India Limited is a 100 per cent ings are pending. subsidiary of Cadbury Schweppes Overeas Limited, which is a company incorporated in the United Kingdom. srnft jfiw r (b) The company was formerly known as Cadbury Fry (India) Private fiWT 'tfMT Limited and changed its name some time in May/June, 77. The authorised 2 854. Vtf t WT capital of the company as on 1-1-77 is Rs. 4,00,00,000 comprising of 40 lakhs ^ Sell* f^T fif * shares of Rs. 10/- each. 'Hie issued and subscribed capital comprises of (*r) W WZ ^ % 1,29,610 equity shares of Rs. 10/- each fully paid up. qidl fjfqfcii 3TRT TTftr ^ ^ gTSTT 'TT Pfulq f^TT (c) to (e). In the case of Cadbury- Fry (India) Pvt. Ltd. a reference was t ; tiK 249 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 250 (^T) ft, eft WT WVW 5TTT ^pff % wfar 3TT% V % vt * fnfct T m *f?ft («ft far* 2856. t t ot to firwiTt : w tttw ) : (fr) *ft i *rat f*TT 1% : ^ ^33cJT I (^) ^ «rfy+'lWf S7TT M/s. Alcock Ashdown Company after ^rrft ^ | ; Take-over (w) w *nrt firartipff Sr w 2855. DR. VASANT KUMAR PAN- srr^r *ft fa n *tt | «n t DIT; Will the Minister of LAW, JUS- TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be (*r) eft vfk w ftMi gnr pleased to state: ^ *rrw f (a) what is the progress made in the % *njJTRT;TTc*T^ q?t ^ ? affairs of M/s. Alcock Asiid-jwn Com- pany since it was taken over by the Government; and ) : (v) aft (b) what is the amour*! of accumu- *TT*ft ^?t, ftp^flTRT^cT: ^F^T^TTcTT lated losses and how it is proposed to % f^TTT OTT PTRf be nullified? THE MINISTEH OF LAW, JUSTICE f, ^Tvtir % fasTst AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) M/s Alock *TTTt ^»T ^ I Ashdown Company Ltd. was ordered to be wound up by the High Court of (*sr) (*r) ^ Bombay on 13-1-1972. The undertak- STWRPff 5TTT fo*TT 5TT T^l ing of the company were transferred and vested in the Central Government I I by virtue of “The Alcock Ashdown Company Ltd. (Acquisition of Under- ftw rtv t »nff, t o t takings) Act, 1973.” In the winding up proceedings, the Official Liquidator Bombay has filed some mis-feasance application and is realising book debts. 2857. jrprrr : ^rtt (b) According to available informa- ?WT T^TRTW iftT *fsft tion, the accumulated losses of the «TcTT% ^ f^T % WT ^RTRcftiT company as on the date of winding up namely 13-1-1972 was nearly Rs. 101 f*1^1 % fa^ < t ^T^TI% % VtV lakhs. The company’s main source of ?ftvT *rtr t o *r spur wr* arc# income is the interest which is being earned on the sum of Rs. 1 crore de- inr^rt fafirsr sre>rc % fr*r posited by the Central Government ft SHT WT qfegt,cfTVTTyX^R with the High Court of Bombay in ^FT TOT, To *HT v m ^ lieu of the transfer to and vesting in it, of the undertaking of the company. JpT f3RTT| ? The amount of interest earned upto 23 rd September, 1977 on the said sum M jlfww ?WT VRTRTT T stood at Rs. 14,78,596.36. Further *pft («ft H^FfTfaw): ITtR ^ft fn f ^T, action to nullify the loss will depend up on the ordered of the High Court. ftr^ft fosft n ft*ft *ft qnhrRt Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 252 gTTT «n ,«KTl!*iefr TFT % (b) if so, what remedial steps Gov- ernment are proposing to take to stop % *r*=Fsr tf frftJ fasrt | 1 this; and f^ O it +N 3TT H ^ I (c) whether Government have ^TT f.T ^Tt taken any step to give compensation to the landowners and share crop- ^ I I pers for the damaged crops? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Running of Super Fast E ip ra i THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM, between New Delhi and CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS Secunderabad (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (c). In October 1973, when 2858. SHRI G. S. REDD1: Will the the Durgfcpur fertilizer plant was Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to first commissioned, the effluents state: waiter release from the factory skilled over into Raddy fields due (a) whether there is public demand to heavy rain and caused some da- for running the supez-f'ist express maged. The Fertilizer Corporation of between New Delhi ana Secunderabad India paid compensation to those far- from twice a week to all days of the mers whose crops were damaged by week; the effluents. The FCI have since taken measure to control pollution, caused by (b) if so, what steps are being taken the effluets. The Corporation is also in this regard; and taking measures to lay permanent pipe- (c) if this is not possible, whether line to discharge the effluents into the existing Southern Express will be a nullah used as an effluent drain by accelerated to provide a super fast the Industrial Undertakings in 'the express service between N*»w Delhi Durgapur belt. and Hyderabad? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 2860. 5RTT* : ^TT SHEO NARAN): (a) Yes. f^TT f% : (*f>) *TTCT fan FT if (b) It has not been possible to increase the frequency of 123/124 And- ^TFT-"TFT f^RTT if WTR hra Pradesh Express at present for want of line capacity and terminal facilities. (sr) frcTTT T O R sflr OTHK at Allahabad has been done on the n v /m w w if *ni, basis of per capita out turn of labour; jhFnhi/^mv *ni (b) if so, the details thereof; 2 862. VTgHT : TOT (c) whether the Assistant Divisional Accounts Officer, Northern Railway, Allahabad, did not agree with the findings of Inspectors and Assistant Commercial Superintendent and sent (*>) TOT ^Sr/U/HTSKT ^ r - a note of dissent; and w U u i ePTT 2 5 0 (d) whether Government are aware t o *rr5T *nft m^t «ii that Commercial Officers /Officials are making out justifications for further if *rri ^ extension of contract on higher rates ^ ^ ^11 s 1 *TT?TT sacrificing the financial interest of Railways at the same ^me when lower I ; quotations are available from Labour Cooperative Societies? (^ ) TOT ^ | fa THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ir 250 srnt MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHEO NARAIN): (a) The requirement *TT% 3T?ft *TTfeff of labour for parcel handling work at in i Allahabad cannot be assessed on ,the basis of per capita outturn of labour because the requirement varies not only from day-today, but from train to train and platform to platform, de- (*T) v fc 5ft TOT ^TT®T pending upon the quantum of inward and transit parcels received. The re- I ? quirement also depends on the extent of outward booking of parcels from Allahabad, room available by various *nn*ni if t t r t fan trains, number of outward parcel vans loaded and the clearance capacity •TTTRHV) * ( TRTcT JTTcTPn^T available, etc. 1 % snpnr*ii«iwh ^trtt In view of these variables and the I eft » w 4 ? ff tit tit STTefr I * need to prevent detention to trains and f% tit I consignments, the requirement has to be based on peack requirement during a shift rather than on the per capita (*r) 3ft I outturn. ( (d) No. Financial interests of the 2 863. 3* 1* m p n : tot ^ Railways are always kept m view while awarding handling contracts. oeTPT tit f^TT far : 2J5 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Written Answers 256 (*>) *r f ^ r Nationalisation of chemical companies wnNrfxm ^nrfr 2865. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM v i\ x AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS be pleased to state: (sr) ftnsrrf (a) the number of chemical com- *Tfap ®T*T Pr>nii ^ panies operating in India with foreign, affiliation; f^ n x qr sjzr P+dHi ftarr (b) the names of such companies I ? which are dealing with insecticides* and tw **m n H tnw»nft («ft (c) whether there is any proposal S w i r n n ) to nationalise such companies? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM: (^>) W’nnr *t r t AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): («) WW 84 [srw wr 1 (a) There are 80 chemicals (chemi- Tt faa <«l ^ W ft 5Kf fili’TT cals, drugs and fertilizers) companies in India with foreign equity participa- WRIT t I tion of 26 per cent and above; (b) the particulars of such companies: are given in the statement; and 1 urofta t w < # rwrnrf *wvr (c) one of the companies with foreign, 2864. ^»mr : urjnrr w equity participation viz. Madras Ferti- lizers Limited is already a public sec- TW fi'TT *t>î fr ! tor undertaking. The issue pertaining to Nationalisation will be decided along (*) wahr ^ Jr jh with Government’s decision on the recommendations of the Hathi Commit- *ui +in ; ift'c tee. Statement ( « ) #T-3TIT int% $T-IJ $7- 1. Alkali & Chemicals Corporation *t, re-m am # r *f of India Ltd., Calcutta. tiwi ^ ? 2. Bayer (India) Limited, Bombay. 3. Indofil Chemicals Limited, Bom- bay. TW *nfW) 17789 Bombay. (m) $5 V 425-600*0=1147 6. IDL-Agro Chemicals Limited, Bombay. iN V 330-560 *0=4039 7. Monsanto Chemicals cf India V 290-530 50=11399 Limited, Bombay. fMfaire 425—640*0= 1204 8. Rallis India Limited, Bombay. 257 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 15, 18M (SAKA) Written Answers a5g 9. Sandoz (India) Limited, Bom- (b) The shares of Panch Valley Coal bay. Company Limited and Amalgamated 10. Union Carbide of India Limit- Coal Fields Limited were sold to Shri ed, Bombay. B. P. Poddar at a nominal profit. 11. BASF India Limited, Bombay. (c) The Enforcement Directorate, Ministry of Finance, has no such infor- 12. Farm Chemicals Limited, Bom- mation. bay. 13. Volrho Limited, Bombay. (d) The Enforcement Directorate, Ministry of Finance, has not given any approval. However it is being ascer- Violation of laws by M /8 Shaw tained whether R.B.I. or other depart- Wallace and Company ments of Government had given approval. 2866. SHRI JYOTIRMOVT BOSU: Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE Case against Shaw Wallace and Com- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased pany under F.E.ILA. to state.* 2867. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (a) whether directors of Shaw Wal- Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE lace and Company Ltd. conspired and AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased deliberately accepted only a sum of to state: £8,50,000/- just about 40 per cent of the rightful claim thereby depriving (a) whether a case has been cons- the country considerably and violating tituted against Shaw Wallace and the laws; Company and its two Managing Di- rectors. namely, Mr. A. W. B. Hayward (b) whether Managing Directors ok and Shri S. P. Acharya under Foreign Shaw Wallace and Company were Exchange Regulation Act and under involved in the disposal of its holding Section 408 of the Companies Act; in two profitable coal companies for committing an economic offence, at (b) whether the Government has a lower price, to one of its directors taken any steps to reconstitute the Shri Badri Prasad Poddar prior to Board by removing all involved in nationalisation of coal mines; several malpractices; (c) whether balance amount of (c> what are the reasons for with- compensation foregone by Shaw drawing Governments own nomina- Wallace and Company have been il- ted directors; legally and secretly kept in a foreign country in collusion with Shri Badri (d) whether the present expatriate Prasad Poddar with some motive be- Managing Director, Mr. A. W. B. hind it; and Hayward is about to retire and in order t0 escape efforts are being made (d) did the various departments of to bring in another expatriate as a Government and R.B.I. approve the wholetime Director; and amount of compensation received by Shaw Wallace and Company Ltd. for (e) whether the major activity of under-invoiced sale of shares in R.H. this company is trading in wine and shaw and Company Ltd. by Sime- spirit having many distilleries and darby? breweries under its control; if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) The En- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHBI forcement Directorate, Ministry of SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a) and (b), Ac- Finance has no such information. cording _ to the information received 2856 LS— i»59 Written Answers DECEMBER 6, 1977 Papers Laid 263 from the Enforcement Directorate, (e) According to the Annual Report Ministry of Finance on 18-1-1977, of the company for the year 1976, the no prosecution cases have been filed Group Companies are trading in seve- 50 far. However, four show cause ral products as mentioned below:.— notices for violation of the provisions of Foreign Exchange Regulation Act The total turnover of the Group Companies for the year 1076 was were issued to M/s. Shaw Wallace & Rs. 8810.95 lakhs out of which the per- Co. Ltd. Of these, four show cause centage of wine and spirits was 15.1 notices, 3 were also issued as against the percentage of turnover to 18 Directorates of the of agricultural inputs of 67.3, on yeast company and 1 to one Director and derivatives 2.4, tea 3.1, services 2.0, of the company. Cases in respect of glue, gelatine and ossein 2.8, flour and 3 show cause notices have been adjudi- wheat products 3.5, animal and poultry cated and penalty amounting to Rs. 6O00 2.1, others 1.2. has been imposed on the company in respect of one Show Cause Notice involving the company and 18 Directors and the charges in respect cf 2 Show 12 hrs. Cause Notices have been dropped Ad- judication proceedings in respect of 1 PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE show cause notice involving the com- A n n u a l R e p o r t w i t h A u d i t pany and its 18 Directors are in pro- R e p o r t a n d r e v i e w o n t h e gress. Steps to remove Directors by WORKING OF LUBRIZOL INDIA LIMITED stating a case before the High Court f o r 1976-77 under Section 388B of the Companies Act, 1956 and appointment of Directors THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM by 'Government under Section 408 of AND CHEMICALS AND FERTI- the Companies Act, 1956 are being LIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): examined. I beg to lay on the Table a copy (c) Under Section 408 of the Act, the each of the following papers (Hindi Central Government has power to ap- and English versions) under sub-sec- point directors, if it is of the opinion, tion (1) of section 619A of the Com- alter holding an enquiry, that the panies Act, 1956: — affairs of the company are being carried out in a manner which is oppres- (1) Review by the Government sive to any member of the company or on the workkig of the Lubrizol are prejudicial to the interest of the India Limited, Bombay, for the company or to the public. In exercise year 1976-77. of this power, the Central Government (2) Annual Report of the Lub- had appointed two Government direc- rizol India Limited, Bombay, for tors for a maximum period of three the year 1976-77 along with the years with effect from 28-5-1973. These Audited Accounts and the com- directors ceased to hold office after ments of the Comptroller and Au- expiry of their terms on 27-5-1976. ditor General thereon. [Placed in (d) Shri A. W. B. Hayward has not Library. See No. LT-1266/77.] yet retired as Managing Director of the company. He is due to retire from 1- Reports of Monopolies a n d R estric- 1-1978. However, the company has tive Thai* Practices Commission submitted an application under Section THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS- 289 of the Act for Ids reappointment TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS for a further period of one year with (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): I beg effect from 1st January, 1978. In tfee to lay on the Table:— meantime, the proposal regarding the appointment of Shri Brittain as a (1) A copy each ol the following whole-time Director of Ike company Reports of the Monopolies and feas been approved far a period ol two Restrictive Trade Practices Clan- years with effect from 1-12-1977. mission under Section 12 o£ i&e 261 Papers Laid AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Papets Laid 26* Monopolies and Restrictive Trade of Inquiry set up to inquire into Practices Act, 1969:— certain allegations against Shri Bansi Lai, former Chief Minister (i) Report under section 22(3) of Haryana anfl ex-Union De- (b) of the said Act in the cas£ fence Minister. of M/s. Chowgule and Company Private Limited, Goa, for the (ii) Memorandum (Hindi and establishment of Solar Salt English versions) of the Action Works at Jodiya in the State of taken by the Central Govern- Gujarat and the Order dated ment on the above Report. the 19th November, 1976 of he Central Government thereon. (2) A statement (Hindi and (ii) Report under section 22(3) English versions) showing reasons for not laying simultaneously the (b) of the said Act, in the case Hindi version of the Report men- of M/s. Chowgule and Company tioned at (1) (i) above. [Placed Private Limited for the establishment of a new undertaking for in Library. See No. LT-1269/77.] the manufacture of Industrial N otifications u n d e r N ational ised Explosives and the Order dated B a n k s (M a n a g e m e n t a n d M i s c e l - the 27th May, 1977 of the Central l a n e o u s Pr o v i s i o n s ) Sc h e m e Government thereon. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (iii) Report under section 22(3) THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (b) of the said Act in the case (SHRI ZULFIQUARULLAH): Sir, of Shri Ambika Mills Limited, I beg to lay on the Table a copy of Ahmedabad, for the establish- each of the following notifications. ment of a new undertaking for Do you want me to read the whole manufacture of Glycol Ethers thing? It is about appointment of and the Order dated the 10th Directors to Nationalised Banks. October, 1977 of the Central Government thereon. SHRI ;VAYALAR RAVI '(Chiray- (2) Three statements (Hindi and inkil): On a point of order, Sir. English versions) explaining the Just now a paper has been laid on reasons for not laying simultane- the Table of the House by the Hon. ously the Hindi versions of the Re- Law Minister. I do not see it on the ports and the Orders of the Cen- Order Paper... tral Government thereon, men- MR. SPEAKER: He has sought tioned at (1) above. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1267/77.] my permission. Interim Report, etc. of P. Jagan- SHRI VAYALAR RAVI* My point mohan Reddy Commission or of order is that when a Minister is IifQunrr laying a paper on the Table of the House, members can write to you ki THE MINISTER OF STATE IN advance to raise certain matters even THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS in regard to the paper tfcat is sought (SHRI S. D. PATIL): Sir, on behalf to be laid on the Table of the House. o t Shri Charan Singh, I beg to lay On the Table:— The paper laid is a very important paper concemkig inquiries against (I) A copy each of the follow- Shri Bansilal and some other things ing papers under sub-section (4) which are very important, I believe, of section 3 of the Commissions of and all of a sudden, the Minister is Inquiry Act, 19S£:— comiug up and placing a report to (i) Interim Report dated the which we members have some objec- 30th November, 1977 of the P. tion especially with regard to Capoor ( Jaganmohan Rfcddy Commission Commission report wftere ft is said 263 Papers Laid DECEMBER 6, 1977 Papers Laid 264 that page 101 regarding the conduct (5) Notification No. F. 9/26/77- of Mr. Devashayam or somebody has B.O.I. dated the 17th October, 1977 been removed from the report. regarding the appointment of the Directors of the Canara Bank. So, these are matters which, when (6) Notification No. F. 9/22/77- laymg the paper, we, the members, B.O.I. dated the 22nd October, 1977 can raise but we have been denied regarding the appointment of the that opportunity. May I, therefore, Directors of the Bank of India. make a submission that hereafter you please see that it comes on the order (7) Notification No. F. 9/29/77- paper. B.O.I. dated the 25th October, 1977 regarding the appointment of the MR. SPEAKER: Shri Zulfiquarul- Directors of the Syndicate Bank. lah. (8) Notification No. F. 9/34/77- B.O.I. dated the 31st October, 1977 SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): regarding the appointment of the Why do you want him to read the Directors of Indian Overseas Bank, whole thing? He has laid it on the together with corrigendum thereto- Table of the House. dated the 8th November, 1977. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (9) Notification No. F. 9/25/77- THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE B.O.I. dated the 2nd November,. (SHRI ZULFIQUARULLAH): I beg 1977 regarding appointment of the to lay on the Table *1 pursuance of Directors of the United Commer- the assurance given by the Minister cial Bank. of Finance on the 5th December, 1977 during discussion 011 the Bank- (10) Notification No. F. 9/24/7T- B.O,L dated the 4th November,. ing Service Commission (Repeal) 1977 regarding the appointment o f Bill. 1977, a copy each of the follow^ the Directors of Bank of Baroda. ing Notifications {‘Hindi and English versions) issued under clause 3 of (11) Notification No. F. 9/23/77- the Nationalised Banks (Management B.O.I. dated the 4th November, and Miscellaneous Provision) Scheme, 1977 regarding appointment of the 1977: — Directors of the Punjab National (1) Notifications No. F. 9/28/77- Bank, together with Notification B.O.I. dated the 5th October, 1977 No. 9/23/77-B.OJ. dated the 24th and Notification No. F. 9/28/77- November, 1977. 1 ’ * , . B.O.I. dated the 10th October, 1977 (12) Notification No. F. 9/21/77-* 4 regarding the appointment of the B.O.I. dated ths 4th November, 1977 Directors of the Dena Bank. regarding appointment of the Direc. (2) Notification No. F. 9/33/77- tors of the Central Bank of India. B.O.I. dated the 17th October, 1977 regarding the appointment of the (13) Notification No. F. 9/31/77- • Directors of the Indian Bank. B.O.I. dated the 4th November, 1977 regarding the appointment of the (3) Notification No. F. 9/33/77- Directors of the Allahabad Bank. B.O.I. dated the 17th October, 1977 regarding the appointment of the (14) Notification No. F. 9/18/77- Directors of the Bank of Maharash- B. O. I. dated the 28th October, 1977, tra. containing the names of represen- (4) Notification No. F. 9/27/77- tatives of Reserve Bank of India as B.O.I. dated the 17th October, 1977 Directors of the nationalised banks. regarding the appointment of the Directors of the United Bank of [Placed in Library. See No. LT^* India, together with Notification 1268/77.] No. F. 9/27/77-B.O.I. dated the 8th November, 1977. 365 Re. Matters under AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Explosion in 266 Rule 377 g^Heavy Water Plant, Baroda ( CA) , 12.03 hrs. fe n I fa fircw t RiL. MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 <£# ft t, vf ’ SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM (Tiruchirapalli): I have given a ^ | . . . . notice under Rule 377 regarding MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed some nasty publications denigrating five statements under Rule 377. Some and preaching blasphemy... will be allowed today and some will SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- come up tomorrow. -pore): rose. SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed Your remark is rather uncharitable. that. Others also have given. You say, ‘All that you want to say is that your motion is not allowed’. SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: It is not correct. How do I know I got the information that it has not that it is allowed. All that I have bee?u allowed. been informed only is, ‘Your 377 notice is not allowed/ You are sitting MR. SPEAKER: Your information in that position and we are in your is wrong. It has been allowed. Shri hands and you should not pass such Saugata Roy and a number of others remarks. have given. All that you say is that yours is not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: What is it? SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: ‘All that you say is that your motion is not allowed/ That is what you MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA said. Hie motion is not allowed. That is my point. It is an insinua- SECRETARY; Sir, I have to re- tion. port the following message received from the Secretary-General of MR. SPEAKER: You are seeing Rajya Sabha: — an insinuation wheu there is none. Some people are sensitive. “In accordance with the provisions of rule 127 of the Rules of SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): Procedure and Conduct of Business Will you kindly let me know on what in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed date it is coming up? to inform the Lok Sabha that the MR. SPEAKER; Possibly tomor- Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held ou row. the 5th December, 1977, agreed without any amendment to the Enemy Now we take up call attention. Property (Amendment) Bill, 1977, which was passed by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the 29th 12.06 hrs. November, 1977.” CALLING ATTENTION TO MAT- TER OF URGENT PUBLIC 12.04 hrs. IMPORTANCE RE. MATTERS UNDER RULE 377— R e p o r t e d E x p l o s i o n i n t h e H e a v y W a t e r P l a n t o f A t o m i c E n e r g y Contd. C o m m i s s i o n n e a r B a r o d a SHRI ANANT pAVE (Kutch); I TT*T (Iw Tt ) : beg to call the attention of the Prime Minister to the following matter of 51^ ^ 377 % n'lfctt urgent public importance and request 2&7 E x p M m in EtgCEMBjffg 6, 1977 Heavy Water 268 Plant, Baroda (OiA) BHATNAGAR Bhatnagar the extent of damage, the time that that he may make a statement there- ^ e repairs will take or the cost ‘Reported explosion in the Heavy A Committee consisting of two ex- Water Plant of the Atomic Energy perts from the Gujarat State Ferti- Commission near Baroda causing lizer Company, one representative heavy loss and closure of the pro- from the Ministry of Home Affairs ject for an indefinite period.* and a representative of the Depart- ment of Atomic Energy is being set THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI up to investigate the cause of the MORARJI DESAI): Mr. Speaker, accident. The Committee will be Sir, I regret to iriform the House empowered to co-opt such specialists that there was an explosion and fire as they would require for carrying at 4.30 p.m. on Saturday, the 3rd De- out a thorough investigation. cember, 1977 in the Amonia Synthe- sis Section of the Heavy Water Plant None of the adjoining plants of the at Boroda. This was followed by a Gujarat State Fertilizer Company, series of explosions, approximately which is the nearest production unit twelve in number, due to the burst- to this Plant, is affected. ing of nitrogen cylinders kept in the Plant for process requirements. The SHRI ANANT DAVE: As the investi- fire at the bottom of the Amonia Con- gation is just going on, I would like to - vertor was extinguished by 5.25 p.m. know from the hon. Prime Minister only and the last flames of the fire were one thing. The Heavy Water is the put out by 6.90 p.m. second most critical item in nuclear re- Three posotas received minor in- actors of the type constructed in juries from flying glass pieces. They Rajasthan, Madras and Narora. Now were given first-aid and discharged there will be no production due to- from the hospital. Three firemen be- this explosion. It is known that there longing to the Baroda Municipal Cor- was some leakage in the convertor and poration were overcome by the fumes the plant was shut down as the explosion occurred. of Amonia and were attended to, but were not required to be hospitalised. I would like to know who is res- The first report shows that the fire ponsible for this act or whether there* seems to have been caused by the is an act of sabotage. If yes, has any rupture of one of the two forged person been arrested or not? I would pieces where injection of Amonia is like the final report of the investiga- done to reduce the temperature of tion team to be laid on the Tahie of the synthesis gas. The reasons for the House. the rupture of the forged piece will have to be investigated. SHRI MORARJI DESAI; Until investigation is complete, I cannot give The damage caused by the fire and any reply to the queries raised by my explosion is essentially to the cables, friend and there is no secrecy about insulation, instrumentation and cer- the investigation report. It will certain portions of the structure. The tainly be laid here. There would be* Plant will be Examined completely no objection. and thoroughly to find out whether any other parts have been affected SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- by the heat and the explosion. The pore): I would like to point out one Chairman of the Atomic Energy Com- discrepancy in the Prime Minister's mission along with a technical team statement. Yesterday’s Statesman is at the site to inspect the damage. carried news item that twenty people Till the complete examination is over, altogether were injured in the blast. ^ it is difficult to give an idea about The Prime Minister mentions only six. 269 Explosion in AGRAHAYANA 15, i m [Shri Morarji Desai] House that he had admitted a Calling precautions, but we must go with con- Attention on the subject and names of fidence and the courage. If my hon. Members who had tabled Short No- friend, the External Affairs Minister tice Questions and notices under rule suspected something, he is as human 377 would also be balloted. From that as the hon. Members are. And, there- time the practice has been to include fore, I cannol say that he is less hu- in the ballot for Calling Attention no- man. If he suspects, I am not going tices the names of Members who had to quarrel with him. I only say I do tabled Short Notice Questions and no- not go on suspicions, not that their tices under rule 377 on the subject. suspicion would not come to me also but then I do not act on suspicion. That Taking into account the objections is the only difference. I have nothing raised on the 2nd December, 1977 that more to say. if decision on a Calling Attention, notice was delayed, chances of the Members who had tabled Calling At- 12.40 hrs. tention at the first opportunity finding ANNOUNCEMENT RE. CALLING place in the ballot became relatively ATTENTION NOTICES less when the number of manes to be balloted increased on account of other MR. SPEAKER: On the 1st and 2nd Members tabling Calling Attention no- December, 1977 Members had raised tices subsequently, I have decided that - certain points about the procedure for we may revert to the old procedure dealing with Calling Attention notices. under which names of only those -Subsequently, the matter also figured Members were balloted who tabled at the sitting of the Business Advisory Calling Attention notices. Committee held on 2nd December, 1 1977. I have carefully gone through Similarly, the ballot under Rule 54 the objections raised by the Members, (4) for clubbing names on an admit- the provisions of rule 197 which go- ted Short Notice Question shall be verns the procedure for Calling Atten- restricted only to Membecs tabling tion and the past practice. Short Notice Questions on that sub- One of the objections raised on the ject and names of Members tabling 1st December, 1977 was that the Mem- Calling Attention notices on the Sub- bers whose Adjournment Motions had ject shall not be included therein. been converted into Calling Attention notices should have given separate In other respects, keeping in view notices under rule 197 to become eli- the provisions of rule 197, I have deci- gible to participate in the ballot. I had ded to follow hereafter the following agreed to that and explained under procedure in the matter of Calling At- what circumstances names of those tention notices:— Members were included in the ballot. In this connection I may mention that (i) All Calling Attention notices the practice followed during the last received upto 10.00 hours on any Lok Sabha was that names of only day will be placed immediately those Members who had tabled Calling before me for my consideration. I Attention notices were balloted for will go through all of them and then determining the names of 5 Members select one of them for a statement which were to be included in the entry by the concerned Minister at the for List of Business. On the 24th sitting of the House on the follow- June, 1977 when Members tried to ing day. make submissions regarding their notices about lock-out in Indian Express (ii) The Members who have tabled and Financial Express, my distin- Calling Attention notices on the guished predecessor observed in the Subject and the Minister concerned 2-jyAnnouncement Re. C.A. AGRAHAYANA 15, 188,9 (SAKA) P.A.C. Report 278: will be informed about the admis- it was balloted in the afternoon itself sion of the notice. The rest of the and on the notice board next day's notices shall be treated as not selec- cai] attention was put up so that we ted and will laps under the pro- knew whether ours was rejected or visions of rule 197(5). Where a accepted as tomorrow’s call attention. Member is not informed about the MR. SPEAKER: I am told it is be- selection of his Calling Attention ing done. notice, he should take it that his Calling Attention notice has not SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA been selected and no intimation (Begusarai): But it looks rather odd about this will be given to the Mem- that a Member hailing from a parti- ber. This is also as per the practice cular area which is affected in any followed in the past. way does not find a place.; if his name does not figure in the list of those (iii) Any Member whose notice has who have given notice of call atten- not been selected will, however, tion it looks odd. I shall give you have the right to revive his notice an illustration. If a cyclone hit my for a subsequent day by giving a area and my name does not figure in fresh notice and such notice will be the list, would it not look very odd reconsidered by me along with and strange? The Chair jp such cases other notices received for that day. should exercise its discretionary (iv) The Calling Attention selec- power and include one member; other- ted by me would normally be listed wise it would be very unnatural. Let in the Agenda of the next sitting. five names remain; but let one name- However, I will have my discretion be added by the Chair. Otherwise the to allow a Calling Attention at the blouse would not be benefiting from the- end of the day on which notices are information that can be made avail- given if I feel that the matter is able by the Member hailing from that so urgent that the statement must -area. Kindly consider this suggestion. be made on the same day. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR (v) The ballot for determining the (Gandhinagar): Why do you not names of 5 Members for inclusion send it to the Rules Committee? in the List of Business will be held MR. SPEAKER: If you send a. on the day on which the notice is motion I will send it. selected by me and all Calling At- tention notices on the subject re- SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHATUR- ceived upto 10.00 hours on that day VEDI (Agra): What is the necessity will be included in the ballot. of reviving those notices time and. again? The above procedure should not be MR. SPEAKER: Kindly read Rule taken to imply that I must admit a 197. Calling Attention notice for each sitting because admission of the notice will be entirely subject to the rules 12.45 hrs. and subject to my judgment that the PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE matter sought to be raised calls for an Thirty-fifth Report urgent statement from the Minister. SHRI GAURI SHANKAR RAI (Gha- I hope the above procedure will re- zipur). Sir, I beg to present the- move all misgivings about the pro- Thirty-fifth Report of the Public cedure for Calling Attention and it Accounts Committee on Action taken will work to the satisfaction of all by Government on the recommenda- sides of the House. tions contained in their Hundred and Seventy-ninth Report (Fifth Lok SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): Sabha) on ‘Production of Polio Virus O n this I want to make one sub- Vaccine.’ mission. Formerly, once you decided DECEMBER 6, 1977 Restructuring of ONGC (St.) 280 12.46 hr* 3. Member (Materials).—Inspec- tion, Purchases— (a) Indigenous and STATEMENT ON RE-STRUCTUR- (b) Overseas, Stock Verification ING OF OIL AND NATURAL GAS and Transport shipping. COMMISSION THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM 4. Member (Technical).—IPE, In- AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI- stitute of Reservoir Studies and SERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): Drilling Technology. Overall charge Mr. Speaker, Sir, as the House is of R&D. aware, Government have had under their consideration a review of the With a view to achieve a close link organisational structure of the Oil and between the ONGC and the Govern- Natural Gas Commission, (ONGC), ment and an active participation in with due regard to their growing res- the deliberations of the ONGC, it has ponsibilities and the importance of been decided to appoint part time their efficient operations to the na- members representing the Ministry tional economy. On the 28th June, of Petroleum, the Ministry of Finance and the Planning Commission. Thus 1977, the House was informed regarding the reorganisation and strengthen- the Commission shall have the following of the Oil and Natural Gas Com- ing Members: — mission. However, in view of the 1. Chairman. very intricate and complex nature of the subject, the matter was examin- 2. Member (Finance). ed in fuller detail taking into account 3. Member (Personnel). views expressed and various recommendations made so far. I have the 4. Member (Materials). privilege today to place before the 5. Member (Technical—R&D). House, the final decisions of the Go- vernment on the future organisa- 6. Additional Joint Secretary, tional set-up of the ONGC. Ministry of Petroleum. The ONGC Act, 1959, provides that 7. Additional Joint Secretary, the Commission shall consist of a Ministry of Finance. Chairman and no less than two and not more than eight members ap- 8. Adviser (Energy), Planning pointed by the Central Government Commission. and the members may be required to render whole time or part time ser- The volume of field operations has vice, as the Central Government may been increasing by leaps and bounds. direct. For the off-shore operations, capital expenditure of the order of Rs. 700 The functions—Personnel, Finance, crores has already been sanctioned; Materials, Research and Development further large investments are vis- are critical to efficient and cohesive ualised. The on-shore operations are operations and it has been decided to spread over large, widely dispersed have whole time members of the area and the annual capital expendi- ONGC in charge of functions as ture is of the order of Rs. 120—150 follows: — crores. The overseas oprations of 1. Member (Personnel).— indus- the ONGC have been gaining strength: They have received re- trial relations and recruitment, cognition in Tanzania, Iraq and Syria Manpower Management. Training, and these are in addition to the in- Welfare, Public Relations and volvement of Hydrocarbons (India) Vigilance. Limited, a subsidiary of ONGC, in 2. Member (Finance).—Perspec- the Rustam fields in Iran. It is con- tive Planning, Planning Economic, sidered appropriate at this stage to Accounts and Audit. reorganise the distribution beween 28i Restructuring of AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Railway Board 2$ r v (St.) • the staff functions of the Members of way Board broadly on the basis of the Commission and the line func- the Administrative Reforms Com- tions of the executives in the field. mission’s Recommendations. I am. It has been decided accordingly to glad to announce that, the proposals appoint three Executive Directors in- in this regard have since been charge of Off-shore, On-shore and finalised. Overseas operations; The Executive Director (Overseas Operations) will The A.R.C. had dealt with the Rail- also be Managing Director of Hydro- way Board’s structure in their Re- carbons India Limited. The Execu- commendation No 6, which stated: tive Directors will be invited to attend all meetings of the Commis- (1) For efficient functioning, the sion. They will enjoy complete ad- Railway Board should be compact ministrative powers in their areas of in size. The number of Members responsibility subject to the overall of the Board, excluding the Chair- supervision by the Commission. man and the Member Finance (Financial Commissioner) should It has also been decided to under- not normally exceed six. take a formal review of the achieve- ments and functioning of the ONGC (2) The posts if Additional Mem- at least once in every half year by bers of the Board may be abolish- the following:— ed. If the Members of the Board 1. Minister, Petroleum, Chemi- require help in the discharge of cals and Fertilizers. their duties, the requisite number 2. Member (Industry), Planning of aides designated as Advisers may Commission. be appointed. Their functions and the powers of disposal that may be 3. Principal Secretary to Prime entrusted to them may be provided Minister. for in the Rules of Business in the' 4. Secretary (Petroleum). Railway Board. 5. Secretary (Expenditure). I have decided not to make any addition to the existing strength of The ONGC is a growing organiza- the Railway Board in the interest ot tion—and is in the thick of major economy and efficient working. The operations, particularly in the off- Board would thus continue to conw shore sector. We have therefore prise the Chairman, Financial Com- proceeded on the basis of making missioner and three Members. The minimum changes at this stage and Chairman will be a functional Mem- they have been designed to add bers also as hitherto, strength and a better definition of the responsibility at the staff and executive levels of operations and between The Members of the Railway the ONGC and the Government. Board will continue to have the ex- officio status of Secretaries to the Government of India, as has been the practice all along. 12.5# hi< A.R.C’s recommendation to abolish STATEMENT ON RE-STRUCTUR- the Posts of Additional Mem- ING OF RAILWAY BOARD bers has been accepted in full. AH THE MINISTER OF RAILWAY the eight existing posts of Additional BOARD (PROF. MADHU DANDA- Members will accordingly be abolish- VATE): While presenting the Rail- ed. However, as visualised by the way Budget in Parliament in June A.R.C., minimum number of Ad- 1977, I had indicated that I was con- visers—three in all—are being pro- templating restructuring of foe Rail- vided for to assist the Chairman, ^283 Restructuring of DECEMBER 6, 1977 Railway Board (St.) 284 [Prof. Madhu Dandavate] To make the re-organisation proposals, as outlined above, fruitful and Railway Board in the matter of in- operative, I have decided to delegate dustrial relations, the Financial Com- more powers to the lower levels. To missioner in financial matters and the start with, devolution of some addi- Member, Engineering in regard to tional administrative and financial Railway Electrification. These three powers from the Minister to the Rail- Advisers will be designated as Ad- way Board is being effected so that viser, industrial Relations, Adviser the Minister can concentrate more on Finance and Adviser, Electrical. In policy formulations and directions. addition, it is proposed to operate the post of Additional Member (Health) till the present incumbent retires. In turn, additional administrative The post will be re-designated as and financial powers are being dele- Director-General, Railway Health gated to the G eneral Managers so Services, to bring it at par with simi- that decision making responsibilities lar posts on the Civil side. become vested with those, who are close to the scene of activities. I am placing the Vigilance Or- ganisation on the Railways under a The General Managers are also be- separate Director. ing asked to delegate more powers to their Divisional Superintendents, the ultimate objctive of this exercise being that in day-to-day working, it There has been a persistent demand from the gazetted staff of the Rail- should be possible to take most of the decisions at Divisional Level and the ways for a separate Directorate in balance of the decisions at Zonal the Board’s office which could deal Level. With this arrangement most with their problems right from the of the administrative problems and stage of recruitment to the stage of retirement. It has, therefore, been local demands would be tackled expeditiously at the Divisional and decided to create a post of Director (Management Services) in order to Zonal levels avoiding thereby refe- establish an integrated machinery to rence of the problems to the Railway tackle the problems of nearly nine- Board and the consequent administrative delays. thousand officers on the Indian Railways. The process of reorganisation of the Railway Board, as indicated above, I am confident that re-organisation will be completed by 1st January, of the Railway Board, as proposed 1978. now, will bring about a close-knit and compact corporate management SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN at the apex level, which will func- (Cannanore): Considering that this tion effectively and efficiently and to is a very important policy statement, the satisfaction of various user would you kindly allow a discussion interests. on it? MR. SPEAKER: I will consider However, these proposals only con- it. stitute the first phase. I have also under consideration the question of reorganisation at zonal and lower PROF. TKADHU DANDAVATE: evels, so that they become more and The Railway Convention Committee’s nore responsive to the various de- report, is going to be considered and naads of the public and the decision- debated. As in the other House, we aaking processes at all levels are can alsr take it up here. 285 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 {SAKA) Rule 377 286 12.55 Dos. closed for one month. (Interruptions) The Chief Minister and the present MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 Government have turned a deaf ear ( i) R e p o r t e d f a i l u r e o f K a r n a t a k a to all these problems. Do you say G o v e r n m e n t t o m a i n t a i n l a w a n d that there is a government there? It O rd e r i n t h e S t a t e is not functioning. I want to im- press on the House that the Govern- SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA ment has come to a standstill. (Hassan): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you very much. You have at last MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Gowda, you conceded my request under Rule 377. gave me a statement. You are now A situation has arisen in which the departing from it. Government of the Karnataka State SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: I cannot be carried on in accordance come to the same point. I am elabo- with the provisions of the Constitu- rating on those things. In those tion. Rather, the Karnataka Govern- meetings, innocent women, men and ment has failed to maintain law and boys were beaten up severely, and order in the State. I will give you a the goondas headed by the Chief Mi- few instances where the Government nister’s son-in-law using soda bottles has failed to maintain law and order. and cycle chains on these people. There are Press reports here. The There is no government there. headline says: “Armed Congressmen keep vigil at City stadium”. Another SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: On a heading is. “Indira abandons Hassan point of order, Sir. trip.” SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: I request the Central Government to SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- take action. (Interruptions). kil): On a point of order, Sir. Law and order is a State subject. Are MR. SPEAKER: I am on my legs. you going to have q discussion on it? He never said Congressmen, but only Every day this is happening. We all goondas. (Interruptions). get complaints about UP. and Bihar. Even Mr. Shyamnandan Mishra spoke SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: The about it. It is going to be an endless Chief Minister’s son-in-law is heading matter, due to political rivalry. (In- the goondas. terruptions). It cannot be discussed in this forum. 13 bra. MR. SPEAKER: His submission is that the law and order situation is so SHRI B. P. KADAM (Kanara): Sir, bad that there is a necessity for im- I rise on a point of order. Can the posing President’s Rule. (Interrup- hon. Member make an insinuation tions). agamst a person who is not here to defend himself? He is maligning the SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): Chief Minister of a State. He is mak- Every time we say that there is a ing all sorts of allegations which are break down of law and order, and unfounded. How can he justify them that there should be President’s rule, or substantiate them? So, they must will you have President’s rules? be expunged. (Interruptions ). SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: 13 hvft. Here are the Press reports. I have given them. In Karnataka, 14 col- MR. SPEAKER: The well-estab- leges have been closed; students are lished convention in this House is that oik {{trike. The University has been I do not allow an3'bcxfy to speftlr 287 Matters under DECEMBER 6, 1977 Rule 377 [Mr. Speaker] do not question it. It concerned Mr. Char an Singh. When a matter like against an individual, unless some that concerning the Central Govern- proof is produced in the form of some ment is not allowed, how can you papers. In this case, he has produced allow a matter which is completely before me a relevant paper. In sucn under the State and is not connected cases I invariably insist on some do- with the Centre? cuments. Whenever any member wants to make a personal attack MR. SPEAKER: I have already said against anybody, I ask him to give something about that. me some proof, so that I may permit SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: It him to do that. In this case, the mem- is very clear that the Karnataka ber produced a paper; that is why I Government has failed to maintain law allowed him to do that. and order. For a month the Chief SHRI S. NANJESHA GOWDA: The Minister and the other Ministers have Government of India is very soft.. .. been in Delhi. Do you think they are (Interruptions) That is, why they are doing any work? No, Sir. The Gov- not looking into this. I would request ernment is not functioning. So, I re- the Central Government to take note quest the Central Government to take of this situation and dismiss that Gov- note of this and dismiss it and order ernment. That is all I want to say fresh elections. (Interruptions). SHRI B. P. KADAM: A newspaper 13.06 hrs. report cannot be the basis for raising such an important matter. Unless the The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch hon. Member himself verifies the ac- till Ten minutes past Fourteen of the curacy of such reports and takes res- Clock. ponsibility for them, he cannot raise them in this House in this way___ The Lok Sabha re-assembled after (Interruptions). Lunch at ten minutes past Fourteen of of the Clock, SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Sir, I rise [Shri Tridib Chaudhuri in the Chair} on a point of order. If you look at rule 377, it says “Raising a matter MATTERS UNDER RULE 377—Corvtd. which is not a point of order” . It (ii) Appointment of a Judicial Com- says further: m issio n by. U. P. Government to in- “A member who wishes to bring to quire into riots in V aran asi the notice of the House any matter MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, matters which is not a point of order shall under Rule 377. give notice to the Secretary in writing, stating briefly the point SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA (Pon which he wishes to raise in the nani): Mr. Chairman, Sir, with yous House___” kind permission, I have to make a few suggestions under Rule 377. An Usually, this procedure is resorted to unfortunate riot broke out at Vara- for raising a matter of public impor- nasi on October 23, 1977. The imme- tance. It must be a matter which is a diate origin of the trouble goes back matter of concern for both the House to 1st October, 1977. There are serious and the Government of India. You allegations that during the course of will remember that even though Delhi the riot and even upto as late as 5th is a Centrally administered area, when November, 1977, the police particu- we wanted to raise the question of law larly the PAC, and the Administra- and order, which had deteriorated, and tion indulged into serious atrocities in fact there was a morcha, we were on. and indiscriminate arrests of the not allowed to raise it here. I myself victims themselves. In several loca- gave notice, you did not allow it. I lities, like JDalu ki gali, Dalmundl, 289 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Rule 877 290 Mohalla Shaker Talab, Mohalla Am- 1117 hrs. anullah Pura, weavers colony and (iii) Publication of Books on Pan* others, the PAC broke open the dit Nehru and Mahatma Gandhi and doors, severely beat men, women and attempts At denigrating the leaders. children, looted cash, jewellery and other articles and indulged into in- SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- discriminate arrests of the victims pore): Sir, imder rule 377, I rise to themselves. While the PAC let loose bring to the notice of the House a a reign of terror and atrocities, the very serious matter. CRP sent by the Centre was never Recently, a book on the life of effectively deployed and it remained Mahatma Gandhi, “Mahatma Gandhi a mere silent spectator of all these and his Apostles” by Ved Mehta and atrocities. another book called “Reminiscences of Nehru Era” by M. O. Mathai have We, namely, Janab Ibrahim Sulai- come out in the market. They deal man Sait, Member of the Lok Sabha, with the private lives of these two Janab Khawaja Mohiuddin, Member * great leaders and bring into disre- of the Rajya Sabha and myself visi- pute many of the famed women pat- ted Varanasi and met a large number riots of our country and denigrate of these victims. The magazine ‘Sun- these two leaders. . . . day’ has also published a special report in'its issue dated 27th November, DR. SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: 1977. At p. 28, in column 2, it refers Truth has been brought out. to this police high-handedness and says: SHRI SAUGATA ROY: It is a shame on you, Mr. Subramaniam “...... Was it also necessary Swamy. for a police officer, Ram Kumar Lall, to shout as he entered the SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): Muslim mohalla, “This is a Pakis- Don’t add word “Swamy” to his tani mohalla! Bum this!” name. (Interruptions) SHRI SAUGATA ROY: It may be At last, the U. P. Government an- mentioned that Shri Ved Mehta is an nounced a judicial inquiry. But des- Indian writer, living in the United pite such a long delay, the Commis- States, and Shri M. O. Mathai is a sion is yet to be constituted and is former Special Assistant to Shri yet to start functioning. In the con- Jawaharlal Nehru, and he was sac- text of what I have narrated, it is absolutely necessary in the interest ked on the basis of charges levelled on the floor of this House. of law and order and in the interest It must also be mentioned that a of confidence in and the efficient large number of women Members of working of the police itself that the Parliament had issued a statement in inquiry be made expeditiously. The, which they say: commission should also be required to submit its report within a stipulated “We are constrained to say that reasonable time. Otherwise, the ap- some books have been published, pointment of a commission becomes a and newspapers are reproducing mere show. I would, therefore, urge portions thereof, regarding the per- upon the Government of India, upon sonal lives of eminent public men. our hon. Home Minister, Shri Charan We are shocked that a lot of res- Singh, to take up the matter seriously pectable Indian women have been and earnestly with the Government of referred to in these publications U. P. in a very disparaging manner, which is highly indecent. We are SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: I fully sup- not concerned with the veracity port his demand. or otherwise or these things. We 2856 LS—10 291 Matters under DECEMBER 6, 1977 Rule 377 292 Shri Saugata Roy from the Janata benches, who worked with Shri Jawaharlal Nehru, however, strongly feel that such to come in protest against such publications militate against stan- books. That is why I demand a dis- dards of public life and are unde- cussion. a thorough discussion, on sirable insults on our womanhood. this matter in this House. We urge upon the Government to find ways and means to protect the Yesterday when the women Mem- reputation of women in public life " bers of Parliament met the Prime Minister, he is reported to have said If I may also mention, yesterday a “what is to be done about such books? large number of women Members of There cannot be any banning of such Parliament, about 20 Members of books.’’ We want to say that in the Parliament, met the Prime Minis- name of the freedom of the press, ter and brought to his notice this if the whole culture is denigrated, it very serious matter, this continuous is not a thing that should be tolera- character assassination, which is be- ted by this House. We should think coming a part of thtf new political seriously as to what steps are to be culture that is being evolved in this taken. country. I also want that the Prime Minis- This book by Shri M. O. Mathai ter, or the Education Minister, or any was serialised in a popular Calcutta of the Ministers present here,' should magazine called Sunday, which has come forward and make a statement published an article on Dr. Subra- in this House against this character maniamswamy also. This magazine had assassination game that is going on published an article and its caption in this country, under the inspiration was “Nehru and his Women”. of RSS, through their organs. It / is high time that a stop is put to such People may have their differences things, such denigration, such unjust with Jawaharlal Nehru and his views, remarks, such indecent remarks, which but to denigrate the lives of such goes against the grain of our cultural great leaders is to denigrate the cul- heritage. tural heritage of this country, Is to denigrate the Indian nation as a I want to repeat that we want a whole. If I may say so, this is a part full-scale discussion in this House on of the new character assassination this issue. I have given a Calling At- that is being done of the Indian lea- tention Motion this morning. We are ders, this is a new attempt to deni- giving a notice of a motion for a grate the freedom struggle by making full-scale discussion this moment. We scurrilous and sacrilegious remarks want, and the women Members of against such great people in our na- Parliament want, that there should be tional life. a full-scale discussion of these books, and the character assassination which If I may also mention, recen- is being done throughout the country tly one issue of Organiser, which is in the name of these books, in the an organ of the Jan Sangh, brought name of periodicals, in the name of out an article on Shri Krishna publications, in the name of the new Menon where it is said that he is a freedom that the Janata Party has sexomaniac. This has now become a brought in this country. fashion in this country. Sir, with the permission of the House, I want I hope that all members will be that this serious matter should be with me in supporting this demand brought t0 the notice of everybody. for a full-scale discussion on this mat- The Ministers are present here. Shri ter___(Interruptions). When this Biju Patnaik is present here. He matter was raised in the Rajya Sabha, was a close associate of Shri Jawa- Shri Mohan Dharia made a statement harlal Nehru. We expect people on the floor of the House. So many 293 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Rule 377 294 Cabinet Ministers are present here. »rar WITT *T5T I I Chair, by the hon. Speaker, to raise certain matters which, in the wisdom of the hon. Speaker are matters of public importance which need to be SHRIMATI V. JEYALAKSHMI brought on the floor of the House. My (Sivakasi): Yesterday, we, the wo- point of order is a little different. I men Members of Parliament, irres- agree that the particular point which pective of party affiliations, joined the hon. Member has brought beiore together and met the Prime Minister, the House is important, it is delicate, Shri Morarji Desai, and placed our and it is true that some portions of grievances before him. We said that the two books are in bad taste, ac- the politics of character assassination cording to women Members, I say ac- should not be allowed to enter the cording to all Members of Parliament. books of history, and the Prime Mi- But that is not my point of order. 1 nister said “these are books of his- want to know in what way the Gov- tory; we cannot do anything to pre- ernment of India are responsible for vent the publication of such books” . these publications.... (Interruptions) Immediately, we, women Members of Parliament, pointed out that it is noth- SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): ing but character assassination, which Such books should be prescribed. is a political game. In India, it is already very difficult for women to enter PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: politics. If we believe in an open society, in a healthy society, we must take the risk of having such dirty books also. A few Members are in politics and We must condemn them, but not they are being criticised like this. It through this method. That is my is not good. Not only that, they have point. not even spared Mrs. Vijayalakshmi Pandit’s daughter and Padmaja SHRI VASANT SATHE: What is Naidu. Mr. Vasant Sathe also told that the other method? You should pres- Jhansi Ki Rani had also been criticis- cribe them. ed. (Interruptions) Mr. Morarji Desai told us that when he was in the PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: States, Mr. Ved Mehta asked for an There are many other methods. I am interview. He refused to give an in- against prescribing. In that case, terview. We, the Members of Par- there muy be many other books liament, say that we are thankful for which would be prescribed ---»Inter- that and it is the duty of the Gov- ruptions) I feel that this-----problem ernment to protect us from all such cannot be solved in this way. scandals. This is my submission. (In- terrption) Please do not say that is glftawi* fiwrft (iftMM’f-H ) : because of Congress. We know that srtfr rrfar # £ ft? Padmaja Naidu was also a Congress 295 Matters under DECEMBER 6, 1977 Rule 377 296 [Smt. V. Jeyalakshmi] Rajya Sabha After that, in the morning, I gave a notice under Rule.. . woman. Mrs. Vijayalakshmi was (Interruptions). I am answering th€ also a Congress woman. Most of the point of order raised by Prof. Mava- Janata Party members’ origin is tne lankar. (Interruptions). Congress Party. So, do not criticise tnem because they were in Congress MR. CHAIRMAN: You take your (Interruptions). seat. Let me dispose of it. (Inter- SHRI VASANT SATHE: If we cri- ruptions). ticise Vi jay a Raje Scindia, will you agree to that? You are talking in ftnw 5*1 rr insrjtaT (Tfep*r the name of freedom. (Interruptions). SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chirayin- f far at siro? st, ^tt hWt ^ kil): I am on a point of order about $ft i anr Government’s responsibility. Mahatma S ^ sftr | s? Gandhi is the Father of the Nation. People in this country and all over sift ferfrsrft Jf the world pay great respects to him f3TTTf, ^ t ir fspf^ft 5Ps- as one of the greatest men of the age. We, the Indians are proud of it. I know ^t nf t ... ( www ) some Members of the Janata Party went to Raj Ghat and took an oath in sftVRT HIS : ^rat^rt ^t3TW front of his samadhi that they would follow Mahatma Gandhi, the Father *f>rt . . . ( ) of the Nation. (Interruptions) The whole history is connected with Ja- / waharlal Nehru including you, Mr. I am on a point of order on what Chairman. That can only develop a he has said. national feeling of respect. I do not (Interruptions) want to mention the names of other people. There are other leaders who MR. CHAIRMAN: Let him finish are also involved, especially the his point of order. Father of the Nation. In this big scan- (Interruptions) dal, all nasty things have been said about the national leaders. Is it not fine* 5*TTT the duty of this Government to pro- qrcs s it e srciTiw r | 1% tect us from these things? There are provisions in the IPC for obscene qfr fod r«* publications. There is a Censor Board ^ ^TT to censor the films. It is the duty of the Government to check such publi- %fvr cation which degrades the national irr^T $ fatft ferrar *;t leaders, especially the Father of the srm rr \ $ Nation and the first Prime Minister of this country, the freedom veteran to eft ^TTT ^TT% | “ ^TT*V %cTT whom we are looking with an enthusiasm for a direction. So, I submit that it is Trhfr' sftr the duty of the Government to take steps and come out with a statement 2% | ( ) on the Floor of the House. (Interrup- tions). SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, I rise SHRI SAUGATA ROY: On a on a point of order. Under rule 377, point of order. Yesterday, this mat- we bring a matter to the notice of the ter was raised at Zero Hour in the Government. (Interruptions). Let us 297 Mutters under AGKAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Rule 377 298 not bring politics here. There was mer Prime Minister, Pandit Jawahar- a book written by one British author lal Nehru, and who was ultimately about Jhansi-ki-Rani. In that book turned out from his establishment for he had written similar things about whatever improper things he might her. I brought that book to the no- have done according to the former tice of the then Home Minister and Prime Minister* has written a book the then Prime Minister, and that and has written, according to some book was proscribed. In this case friends, scurrilous reports. I have not also when respected national figures read that book, nor have I any inter- are involved—particularly after tak- est in reading what Mr. Mathai has ing oath in Raj ghat, I think nobody written. I do not even know whether here would say___(Interruptions). he is a mere writer or a chro- nicler or anything of that sort. MR. CHAIRMAN: What is your If what my friend says is point of order? true, if what the hon. lady SHRI VASANT SATHE: My point Member says is true, I personally think that we should dismiss it just is this Mr. Vi jay Kuamar Malthora was just now pointing out that this was hy- by one word—-‘disgusting’. While my hon. friends were getting excited, I pocrisy to bring it to the notice of this House because that gave publi- was wondering if Pandit Nehru was city. My point is that it has already alive today and such a book came out, been published. We are not bringing what would he have said. If I knew it out for the first time. It has been the man, Pandit Nehru, he would published and serialized. If the have smiled and said, 'Obviously, the man is ill-informed’. policy of the Government is that national figures’ character should be That is all he would have said and sullied by this method, tommorrow dismissed it. Nehru’s greatness or things will be said against Guru Gol- Mahatama Gadhi’s greatness or other walkar. Somebody may write a book, great men’s greatness cannot be mar- red by some such publication. I and things may be said against anybody’s mother. What are they talk- would say, therefore, let us not make an issue of it. All that you are saying? Things can be said in the worst possible maner. What wil they do ing is: Proscribe the book’. The then? The only way it can be stopped moment you proscribe a book millions is by bringing it to the notice of the would want to read it. All the por- Government, so that this book can be nography that is proscribed is sold by proscribed. Under rule 377, the ob- millions in the country. So I do not subscribe to the view of proscrib- ject is to draw the attention of the ing the book: I woyld say ‘ignore it*. Government---- That would be the advice of the Gov- MR. CHAIRMAN: That has already ernment. been done. Under rule 377, Govern- SHRI VASANT SATHE: After the ment is not called upon to make a book on Jhansi Ki Rani was proscrib- statement. They may make a state- ed has anybody read it? (Interrup- ment. tions) ...... SHRI VASANT SATHE: You must MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister understand the urgency of the matter. made a statement in his personal capacity, he has not made a statement THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND on behalf of the Government. MINIS (SHRI BUU PATNAIK): Sir, Shri Saugata Roy had mentioned my SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): name. I do not know what was the case He said that it is the stand of the lor excitement. It may be a case for Government. disgust. A person called Mr. M. O MR. CHAIRMAN: He may be a Mathai, who was the Personal Secre- member of the Government but he tary or Private Secretary of the for- was giving this j>ersonal opinion. 299 Matters under DECEMBER 6, 1977 Rule 377 30a SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: Kindly ment. If you remain restricted with- refer to the record, he said that it is in Rule 377, I am shut out. But that the stand of the Government. was not so: the matter was handed over to the Members and the Mem^ bers made their contribution. If it MR. CHAIRMAN: Let us not pro- had stopped with the Member you long the discussion. could still have ordered me to keep quiet and I would have obeyed. But the Minister made a statement and SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: This is a said that it was the stand of the Gov- vital question. ernment From out of that a very important issue arises, which I w ant MR. CHAIRMAN: It may be a to raise. That important issue is this: very vital question, but we will have what is to be the attitude of the to take it up by a proper motion at nation to the memory of persons ac- the appropriate time. Under Rule knowledged as national Leaders by 377 Members are permitted to men- common reputation and common action a thing of public importance: knowledgement? It would be open to that had already been decided by the Pt. Nehru to say ‘I don’t care’ but Speaker and so Mr. Saugata Roy Pt. Nehru is dead and he Is in hfs was allowed to make a statement. No grave. Whether or not the nation further discussion is called for; nor owes something to him and to is it allowed under the Rules. So, Mahatama Gandhi and to all the great let us stop here. If you want to pur- national Leaders who preceded them, sue this mater let us have a proper if their memory is calumniated, if motion and then you can discuss it scandalous and scurrilous statements at the appropriate time. are made about them, are we to say that we will react the way Pt. Nehru would have reacted. It is a question SHRI C. M. STEPHEN I air, rising of national importance that I am rais- on a point of order. The procedure ing here. The Government has taken under Rule 377 is stipulated in the the stand that anybody may say any- Rules of Procedure and it does not thing about anybody who has gone contemplate a chain discussion after by and our attiude must be that of a submission is made under it. But, ignoring. Is that to be the stand of the after the statement made by Shri nation with respect to scurrilous at- Saugata Roy you, in your wisdom tacks of persons who led the nation permitted observations to be made and whose memory the nation cheri- by different Memfcers, not by way shes? This is the basic question that I of a point of order. The lady Mem- am raising. Is it to be the attitude: Ig- ber here spoke and Mr. Biju Patnaik nore it or do we not owe it to their spoke and it was not by way of a memory that we defend them in their point of order. Therefore the subject absence and protect their reputation came up before the House by some so that the nation’s reputation may means, somehow. I am not asking not be sullied? India cannot be for a complete discussion, but when a remembered except in connection with demand was made from this side for Mahatama Gandhi, except in connec- a statement from the Government, tion with Jawharlal Nehru, except in while the Parliamentary Affairs Mi- connection with Jhansi Ki Rani, ex- nister Mr. Ravindra Varma shook his cept m connection with the great head, indicating his unwillingness to leaders who led this nation and if make a statement, Mr. Biju Patnaik their names are sullied, are we to say offered to do so. He stood up and that we ignore it and smile or we concluded his statement by saying react against it? This is a major that that was the stand of the Govern- national question that I raise before ment. Emanating from that state- this House to be answered in due ment, I am entitled to make a state- course under the rules. Ol Payment of Bonus DECEMBER 6, 1977( Amendment) B ill 302 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- |?TT ^ H F t^ h r fiTOT STTT TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): Mr. fi v+»i < % ?m r irctt % Chairman, Sir, as you very rightly f o r i ssir sft *T5i% pointed out, the Chair permit- ^TT^T *T*T^Tt % m 'dH+V iTHTf ted Shri Saugata Roy to make a statement under Rule 377. It is not ^ ^ tft 303 Payment of Bonus DECEMBER 6, 1977 (Amendment) B ill 304 tft W?TT ^FT w t fviti f t ^jt% ^ f t | 1 t i & i % ^ W ^rr ^ i p n & fazw* % t^f?T ^ «m«h , f h v ^ t f 1 f w n e «fr ^n^RT *ffar | srtr ft 3N^ ^t-^t ^ 3T3T % m fofi & ^ n r ^Tfpn fe ?ftr ^ ^§’-^1' m^TIhRi — ‘f'Î 1*1*11 f+tiY ^ | 1% qf^mr ^ t m w x ^ % >rf«fd I *Tl<^ "F^T ^ fe W 5RTR ^TT°FTT % tT^ wRiîir «r>*^d) 4di £ ^T ^T ^TTcft ^ ftiT Vtf t i t t sftr ^T^r? * n ^ t f a ?n% ^r °M< % «TT^ ft dYfd *r ^T <&J t I ^TRT^T, ^ ^fiffOT ^r<+K t i t % tnr^fft % 979TT^ *ftfd *T ^tj cTW % ^Vt r ^ rtt w r, ^ft¥- rT^ f*T titf tit *T*TWT % fkzfeit titwrz tit, *jm ;tit ^ TOT , ^ftfsp JfPT H4fm K «( f e n w «rr ?r^T ^ I *?H|} ^frf ^7*ft 5TRT °M«jd ^r 'jft ^<<«ui f e n jt mi «n I^X *T^t cH> sTRT% ^T ^fhff ^ fe firfeFT «ftro ^ra^rt ^rr f e n titr srrsr tit ^ ^>TT— irTy-^K til ^ T feTT WT I d^- f Slf+H ^Hl 0 dT'Tj % ^Fft fe^-f^Tvft sft^T % fen, W 3ft ^fr sftol^T ^T 7ROTT f e n * r^ F r wr ^ dTt% ?rrft W W T ^ti^ |, ^T% ^ f l ■Ft ^ 1^1 î-s(Viq ^TT ^ I ?T$r fe n ? ...... ^T % dHlH 5*TNtlH ftr^T 71% |; «ft fTOT W^ff fnîO : d^TPT tit ^ T W i’ ^T ?rf % «rrt ^r vt 1 t ^=5 % ^n^-^rpr ^sfr ^ it t ^ l % % ft tit ^<T ftr^TT f I ff 9T«Î % 'Tlfittft VTW^dT I I ^rpr ^r feS^HF ^r ?r SHfWdT | ft> fH Rt ÊRVR % ^PTxTT i iftr WTWT + the emergency and (Coimbatore): Railway employees this is one of the things that stood are holding a demonstration for bonus "against the erstwhile Congress Gov- before the Parliament House just now. ernment. We all felt that when we You should also mention that demons, went to the people during elections. tration. A tremendous resentment had built SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Just now up in the minds of the workers or Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan referred their being deprived of the right to to the Railway Speakers demonstra- bonus which they took as their defered tion in front of the Parliament House. wage and not as a share of the profit I had an occasion to raise that issue on that was made by the management. 30th—about the demonstration which was brought before Parliament on I do not know whether it is because the 29th of November demanding the of Shri Verma’s own wishes or right of bonus. because of the pressure he is facing I may mention again, the Govern- that this very good gift to the workers ment by this Act, has taken aw*y was given by the left hand. Clause 34(3)—the right which the workers had for a negotiated settle- If we go through the Bill we find ment—in regard to the excess of the that this present amendment that has allocable surplus as allowed by this Act. This has deprived the workers in been brought forward by the Gov- companies which have made huge ernment restores 0nly the minimum profits, which have made substantial bonus of 8.33 per cent for the year 1976. There is no mention about how profits from getting special privileges bonus will be paid in the succeeding for working in this Company and to years. There is a lurking fear in the get a due share in the profits of the company. minds of the workmen that Govern- ment in order to fulfil its election It may also be mentioned that the pledges has restored bonus this year INTUC has for a long time been which they may take back again from demanding that workers be given the workers when the time permits. access to the Accounts of the management because it is very well known Mention has already been made in in this country that it is possible for this House about the demands of the a Management to manipulate accounts, Railway employees. Some of Shri to manoeuvre accounts, to manipulate Verma’s colleagues in the cabinet were balance sheet in such a way that they erstwhile trade union leaders of the will sftiow no allocable surplus. What Railways. When they went on strike further help has the Government demanding minimum bonus for them given in Ihis regard when in the neither Shri Verma. nor the Hallway calculation of the allocable surplus for Minister nor any of the Ministers bonus they hBve also decided to deduct of the Government came out to say the investment allowances? This will how they were going to pay bonus to only give an upper hand to the indu- the Rilawy employees who constituted strialists who are out to deprive tile single largest body of employees in wprkers of their bonus. 307 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 308 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri Saugata Roy] now called upon to discuss a grim 15 hrs. tragedy which has befallen us recently. It is not only an important issue for In this context, I will refer to the the House but this is an issue of demand for bonus by the L.I.C. and national character. I would, there- G.I.C. employees. As regards the fore, urge upon the Members of this L.I.C. employees, the Government have House to take part in the discussion of said that it is sub judice. this motion cutting across the party barriers and party affiliations and also As regards the G.I.C. employees, in isolation forgetting our regional they have not been given bonus uptill attachments. now and the management have not yet come out with any declaration as to As you know, this House—Lok how they are going to give bonus to Sabha—true to its tradition, express- the G.I.C. employees. ed its deep sense of grieT and agony and sorrow at the loss of lives and I think that there are certain defects properties in Andhra Pradesh, Tamil- in the Bonus Act as amended. nadu, Kerala, Pondicherry and Laksha MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Saugata Dweep and, in a Resolution formally Roy, why don’t you continue your adopted by this Housed lias already speech tomorrow? expressed or conveyed the deep sense of sympathy to the members of the SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Yes, Sir. berieved family. We also stood in silence for a few minutes in this House itself. 15.01 hrs. As you all know, the President of the country took the earliest possible MOTIONS RE. RECENT CYCLONES opportunity to express his sense of AND FLOODS IN . THE SOUTHERN grief and agony at the heavy casualties STATES and colossal loss of lives and properties and undertook a tour in the MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the House aifected areas. You would also know will take up the motion of Shri that the Prime Minister of this country Chitta Basu. has, rightly, pointed out that the devastation was a national calamity [M r . D e p u t y -S p e a k e r in the Chair] and he was all the more explicit when lie said that Andhra Pradesh and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Tamil Nadu’s sorrows were the sorrows Chitta Basu. of the nation and hastened to assure the entire nation to see that the Gov- SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat): ernment would do whatever is requir- Mr. Daputy-Speaker, Sir, with your ed t0 be done. All these things, I permission, I move: suppose, will set the conduit of the perspective and that perspective, I ‘That this House expresses its hope, is the perspective of the national concern at the situation arising out interest. Within this well-defined of the devastation caused by the conduit of the perspective let us now recent cyclones and floods in Andhra proceed to discuss this tragedy which Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala and has befallen us and evaluate the Pondicherry and urges upon the troubles ahead. Unless we do our Government to make all out efforts duty in this national perspective—let for undertaking a massive relief me say—we shall be failing in dis- and rehabilitation programme”. charging our national obligation and responsibility. Sir, while moving this motion, I would request the House to under- My first point is to make an attempt stand the grim situation on which we to identify the immensity of pro- are called upon to deliberate. We are blem that faces us today: The losses 309 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 310 Southern States (Ms.) are colossal and a casual glance at the everything. This is the tragic point information that has been made avail- of human beings. They have ceased able to us through various agencies to cry at this particular situation. will only give us a glimpse of the totality of the problem and its Sir, I have got the information, immensity. given by the Andhra Pradesh Gov- ernment only today and they have Let us take the example of Andhra tabulated the extent of the calamity Pradesh. It would be admitted by and destruction. It is like this. the House—as I have already men- No. of houses affected 8,35,966 tioned—that the entire thing should be viewed in a national perspective. No. of persons rendered It should be viewed in a way which homeless 30,43,163 cuts across the party barriers. It Crops damaged in acres 30,00,810 should be views with a sense of Cattle perished 2,35,750 isolation. It should be viewed in the Other live stocks 1,56,588. context of national perspective. In that perspective I again reiterate that Loss of life 8,349 Andhra’s share of grief in this day is the biggest and the entire nation This is what the Andhra Pradesh should accept it in that way. I have Government has given which I had collecrted the information regarding the occasion to know only a few the loss of life and damage done to hours ago. The value of total da- property in all the five affected States. mages according to the Audhra Pra- After a casual glance at this informa- desh Government due to cyclone is tion it leads me to this conclusion that estimated to be more than Rs. 1000 Andhra’s grief at the present moment crores. is the biggest. It says that six coastal districts have borne the wrath and Now, I would like to discuss about fu ry of nature. It left trail of over the Tamil Nadu cyclone. Sir, in ten thousand dead and property worth Tamil Nadu, the information so far crores completely destroyed. Paddy, received suggests that more than 500 cotton and tobacco crops extending lives have been lost while more than over an area of not less than 30 lakh 10,000 heads of cattle have perished. acres have been completely inundated Nearly three lakhs of crop areas have and the standing crops in almost all been totally destroyed. A tentative the parts of Andhra Pradesh have estimate of the number of houses been ruined. Sir, to describe the damaged or destroyed puts it at 1.10 horror of the situation I would only lakhs. According to the Chief Minis- quote a few lines of the news that ter of Tamil Nadu, the entire map of were published in some sections of two districts has changed. The map the Press. I quote: of the two districts is completely changed. T hey cannot be recognised ‘The magnitude 0f death and now with the old map. There has destruction caused by the cyclone been an extensive damage t0 the rail- in the district cannot be assessed way track and other railway property. correctly so soon. Thousands of The Tamil Nadu Chief Minister has corpse and carcasses were strewn estimated the damages at Rs. 150.0 all over and lay unburied___” to Rs. 200.0 crores. In some villages, the living were struggling for survival and have no Now, I come to the scene of Kerala. time to stand to the dead. What is The Home Minister of Kerala has re- more, they are so shocked that they cently stated that the damages caused have ceased to cry. This is the grim- by the cyclone was estimated at Rs. ness of the situation that the men aud 10.0 crores. The cyclone has caused women who have survived have ceas- extensive damages to the standing ed - to cry because they have lost paddy crops, plantations, coconut and Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 312 Southern States (Ms.) £Shri Chitta Basu] As I mentioned earlier this extreme sugar-cane fields. More than 70 per- situation should be viewed in a na- sons have died. At least another tional perspective. At this stage, I want to place before you certain sug- score were missing. gestions how to tackle the issue, what Pondicherry and Lak»hadweep also are the tasks ahead, because it is "witnessed widespread damages and a national task and in that context destruction in property and crop. Of we have to formulate our plans. Re- course, it is a matter of great relief lief operations on a scale necessary for us that no loss of life in these ill- to rehabilitate the cyclone victims of fated areas of our country has been all the five states are certainly be- reported. yond the capacity of the state governments concerned. , It is not possi- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I must ble for the state governments to cope make it clear that we have only four with the situation. Central aid £0 far hours for the discussion and there are advanced is inadequate. I do not like twenty names from the Congress Party harsh words. The Central Govern- and a similar list from the Janata ment should therefore launch a mas- IParty. Then other groups will have sive assistance programme in money -to be given some time. and materials and should come to the succour of the states. SHRI CHITTA BASU: I began at -3.05 and I have spoken for only ten I suggest that the following steps minutes. be taken immediately on a war-footing basis, if a greater calamity than MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; We the one we have witnessed because begat) at 3 and you may conclude of the cyclone is to be really averted. :after taking four or five minutes. The cyclone part of the thing is there but the greater calamity awaits SHRI CHITTA BASU: Now, let us and that can be averted only if we look at the facts, they are not total. take steps to provide relief to the From the fragmented reports and affected people of this part of the fragmented information that we have country. received, I have my own impression My suggestions are: of the situation as of today. That impression is that loss of life rules into (i) Supply of free food on a large thousands, not hundreds, it may well and massive scale to the people in high reach the mark of 20,000 if com- the affected areas and fodder for plete information is made available the cattle; about all the five affected states. Andhra's share is of cours the big- (ii) Grants to the urban as well as gest. The ruination of crop and pro- rural poor to rehabilitate themselves perty is immence, it cannot be esti- and to rebuild their dwelling places mated. The final tally when it be- and loans may be provided for comes available on both counts will be other sections of people who are quite staggering. And yet, permit financially better off; me to say that it cannot ne (iii) Grants and loans to the pea- the total and full picture full story sants for starting agricultural ope- of the grief and suffering of the peo- rations after the water recedes and ple of that part of our country. In supply of seeds, fertilizers and fact that will ever remain a story other inputs free of cost; untold. Whatever information we may collect, it cannot really tell the (iv) Assistance to the small tra- entire ^tory of the grief, suffering and ders and small industrialists to re- •agony of the people, tliat will for start their business ventures and 'ever remain a Story untold. factories; 3^3 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 25^ 1899 (SAKA) Floods, in Southern States (Ms.) (v) The most important thing MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion viz., writing off all Government moved: dues in the affetced areas, including “That this House expresses its. land ire venue and suspension of concern at the situation arising out loan lticovery and also writing off of the devastation caused by the re- the tuition fees for the students at cent cyclonees and floods in Andhra all levels. Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala and Pondicherry and urges upon the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You may Government to make all out efforts conclude now. for undertaking a massive relief and rehabilitation programme.” SHRI CHITTA BASU: I am only SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM making suggestions. (Tiruchirappali): I beg to move: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I know. “That in. the motion: But you keep all your suggestions at add at the end— the end. That is the trouble with you. You must have made your sug- ‘ and recommends to the Govern- gestions earlier. You must have some ment to take the following steps as consideration for other Members also. preventive and precautionary measures for the entire coastal areas SHRI CHITTA BASU: I would facing the Bay of Bengal and suggest inoculation of the entire Arabian Sea: population of the affected areas and (a) to expedite action on the re- effective protective measures against commendations of the Cyclone Dis- epidemics, and formation of all-party tress Mitigation Committee of Orissa Committees at all levels to coiiduct and Andhra Pradesh with modifica- the relief operations. The popular co- tions, so as to apply to the whole operation of all States sheuld be East Coast region from Rameshwa- sought. Since you have forbidden me ram to Calcutta; from speaking further, I will only make three more points. (b) to undertake a programme of preventive measures—-for construction of storm shelters for evacuation The planning Commission, instead of population in the coastal regions, of sitting there in Yojana Bavan, at particularly for fishermen and salt this stage, should set up a separate workers and afforestation along coa- cell to prepare a Plan for the rehabi- stal belt with suitable variety of litation of the affected people. This trees; matter should not be dealt with crnly (c) to strengthen and improve the by the Chiefv Ministers of the five meteorological system in Tamil Nadu States which have been affected. The and Andhra Pradesh so as to make Prime Minister should take the ini- weather forecast and cyclone warn- tiative to convene a Conference of all ing more accurate and precise; the Chief Ministers (the Chief Minis- ters of both the affected and inaffec- (d) to evolve guidelines and code ted States) and pose it as a national for the administration at all levels issue. All kinds of relief measures for precautionary steps to be taken, should also flow from other States, in- before the commencement of cyclone cluding those in the North, Eastern season in the coastal areas and for and Western. That alone, I think, emergent steps to be taken when a will really place the matter in cyclone warning is issued; d proper national perspective snd by (e) to take steps for proper disse- that we would have done our duty at mination of infromation to the peo- the this time of agony and grief to the ple and to mobilise the people to be people who have been the victims of prepared for facing stieh calamities; the Cyclone. and 315 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 315 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri M. Kalyanasundaram] Rs. 200 crores. The Tamilnadu Govern- (f) to extend the Monsoon Experi- ment has estimated that the relief programme would cost more than Rs. ment programme called ‘MONEX, 100 to 150 crores. The Kerala Govern- 79, so as to cover North Eastern ment has also prepared a scheme for Monsoon, i.e., between October and rehabilitation and relief work amoun- December.*’ ’ (I). ting to more than Rs. 10.47 cr jres. The SHRI P. K. KODIYAN (Adoor): I rehabilitation and relief work in Pon- beg to move: dicherry and Lacadive would require very huge amounts. After all, “Taking into consideration the huge what is the assistance given loss of life and property caused by by the Centre? Rs. 5 crores each have cyclones, floods and landslides in re- been given to Tamilnadu and Andhra cent weeks in the Southern region Pradesh. What a paltry sum! of the country, this House calls upon. the Government to set up an all And two crores of rupees to Kerala party machinery at the national le- and that too as advance plan assistance. vel to mobilise resources and men Advance plan assistance means the for organising an effective ar.d mas- planning process of the State itself will sive relief work in the affected re- be adversely affected. To the extent of gion.” the money advanced from plan assist- The disaster that has befallen the sou- ance, the plan schemes will have to be thern States is national calamity. All cut in the States concerned. Therefore, it of us are agreed on that. I need not is no assistance at all. If there is truth refer to the extent of devastation that and sincerity in what the Prime Mir. has taken place. The mover of the other ster and certain other Mintisers have motion, Shri Chitta Basu has already been saying, the Centre should, come referred to those facts. My main point forward to take the main responsibility. is that in this hbur of tragedy, let us When they say that it is a national all stand together and pull together ir- calamity, they should come forward to respective of our political affiliations. take up the main burden of relief and Let us try our best extend relief end rehabilitation in these affected States. assistance to the unfortunate victims Money should be given not as advance of this national disaster. The task be- plan assistance but as special qssist- fore us is stupendous. Taking into con- ance outside the plan Rs. 20o crores is sideration the colossal loss of life the estimated cost of relief and rehabi- and property, a massive and effective litation for Andhra Pradesh. At least relief and rehabilitation programme h?s Rs. 150 crores should come from the to be undertaken and this is not with Centre. How can the Andhra Pradesh in the capacity of the States concerned Government raise such a huge amount namely, Andhra Pradesh, Tamilnadu, to carry oat such massive relief work Kerala and Pondicherry. Therefore, all in the State? How can the Tamil Nadu of us, including the government at the Government find resources and how Centre, the governments of the affected can the Kerala Government raise fh States, all political parties and volun- finances to the extent of more than Rs. tary organisations should join toge- lO crores when the State itself is in ther. There must be an all-party relief financial difficulties? Therefore, the machinery at the centre in order to Centre should come forward with the mobilise men and resources for this massive financial assistance. massive task. That is the main intention of my resolution. W’th regard to Kerala. I hnve to say that in the last 30 years Kerala had The assistance so far given by the never experienced such a disaster lik* Centre to the affected States is quite this though the toll of human life was Inadequate. Andhra Pradesh Govern- less—onlv 80 deaths and 62 people mis- ment has estimated that the rehabilt-- sine. But I would say here that as soon tion and relief programme would cost as the cyclone warning was given, the 317 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 3 I8 Sotithem States (Ms.) Kerala Government took sufficient pre- come forward to donat one day' wages cautionery measures. It had prevented to the relief found, though they have the fishermen from going to the sea also been badly hit; and they have after the cyclone warning was given promised to work maximum to mobi- and police were posted along the coast. lize relief for the affected people. Party and social workers were also de- Therefore, it would be a good gesture ployed in areas where the fishermen on the part of the Government if they were concentrated, that is, in fisher- can refund the second instalment of men’s hamlets his alone could not the compulsory deposit money. With prevent people from going to the sea these words, I commend my motion. because they have to earn their livelihood. The Government had to provide one week's free ration to about MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion 13 lakhs families. The Kerala Govern- moved: ment provided one week's free ration “Taking into consideration the costing more than Rs. two crores. This huge loss of life and property caus- is a relief work which is much beyond ed by cyclones floods and lands- the capacity of the Kerala Government. lides in recent weeks in the Southern Therefore, Kerala should be helped in region of the country, this House a massive way and Rs. 5 crores shoul.1 calls upon the Government to set be given to Kerala. That is my re- up an all party machinery at the quest to the Central Government. national level to mobilise resources Lastly, I would say that the main and men for organising an effective human casualties in this tragedy, and massive relief work in the affec- whether it is in, Andhra Pradesh or in Tamil Nadu or in Kerala have been ted region.” the poor people, it is mainly the poor SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: I people who have lost their lives in have another amendment to move. 1 these areas. In Divi taluk in Andhra move the amendment standing in my Pradesh where the tidal wave struck the people on 19th November, il was name, to the motion of Mr. Kodiyan. the agricultural workers and Harijans I move: and fishermen who were mainly hit. In Tamil Nadu also it was mainly the agri- That in the motion,— cultural workers and Harijans who were living in the slum areas add at the end— in small huts who had been affected. “and recommends that the Gov- In Kerala also it was the fishermen ernment allot adequate funds lor and poor people along the coastline the affected States, particularly who have suffered Therefore in all to Andhra Pradesh and Tamil the schemes of relief and rehabilita- Nadu to enable these States to tion. special care should be taken to take up rehabilitation programme, cater to the urgent requirements of in respect of reconstruction of the these poorer sections. All loans ad- houses and huts, calerances of vanced to these poor people should sand-cast lands, relief to the be completely written off. They farmers who are affected by the should be privided with free rations. damage to the crops, postpone- So far as agricultural workers are ment of collection of arrears of concerned, till Government is in a loans from the farmers, and mora- position to provide them employment, torium on recovery of debts in- they will have to be provided with free curred by ryots in the affected rations. Otherwise they will be star- areas. ved to death. I would also request Government to return the compulsory This House further recommends deposit money to the workers, early refund of C. D. S. deposits because in Tamil Nadu and other affec- to the workers in the affected ted regions, workers themselves have area”, (1). 319 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 33t> Southern States (Ms.) [Shri M. Kalyanasundaram] given; and secondly, the measures When can I get a chance to speak, taken by the State Government im- Sir? mediately following, or even before the disaster. As far as the meteoro- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You will logical department is concerned, I have to wait for your chance to have had occasion to look through the come. various broadcasts and predictions that were made. The position is now DR. KARAN SINGH (Udhampur): quite clear. The metereorological Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the cyclone department was able to predict the that has lashed South India has in- cyclone, but the course of the cyclone deed created a calamity of national was erratic. It grew over the Bay of proportions. It has covered not only Bengal. It was heading first towards Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Madras and the warnings went out Kerala, but also the Union Territories mainly towards Madras, because it of Pondicherry and Lakshadweep— was thought that it would hit the which seems to have^ been overlooked coast. Then it suddenly veered north by the movers of the Resolution. and headed towards Visakhapatnam; This is a national Calamity, and a and then before anybody really knew national Calamity has got to be treat- what was happening, it hit the ed as such. If we simply call it a Machilipatnam coast; and it created national calamity, and yet approach that tremendous tidal wave which it in a partisan manner, we will not was 20 feet high 50 Kms. broad and do justice to the people who have which went inland upto 10 Kms. been affected. I had occasion to visit Sir, in our tour we asked the people, the worst affected areas in Andhra particularly why they did not vacate Pradesh, the Divi taluka, the Guntur ; their hourses in time. It appeals that district and the Krishna district. The cyclones at this time of the year in destruction there has to be seen to be that area are almost invariable, and imagined. Nobody who has not been there was nobody in living memory there can really have an idea of the who could recall the terrible calamity magnitude of the calamity that has that took place in 1864, which was over befallen the people. The only paral- 110 years old; even the third genera- lel that I can think of, is the area tion there were not aware of this pos- where the tank battles took place sibility. As a result of this, despite a. ter the Indo-Pakistan war—we the warning, people were reluctant to visited it, it was very close to my leave their homes, and by the lime the own home State. There has been tidal waves struck at 3 P.M. in the total destruction; trees have been up- afternoon of the 19th with strong rooted thousands of people have been winds lashing over the areas and killed, all hutments have been up- heavy rain it was too late, and the rooted and tens of thousands of cattle people were swept away. In addition were destroyed in those 4 or 5 hours. to the area directly ravaged by the The damage to property, including tidal \vave3 other areas were badly hutments, buildings, standing crops affected by the very strong winds re- and plantations, runs into hundreds of aching a velocity of upto 200 km an crores of rupees. This being the case, hour, by the very heavy rainfall and it is necessary that we should have house collapse. a total commitment to rehabilitation and relief, and under no circumstan- As far as the measures taken by ces should we allow ourselves to be the State Government are concerned, bogged down to unnecessary and 1 have also had occasion to see per- avoidable controversies. sonally and to study the various documents that have come to our notice. Two main points emerge: firstly I can say that it is entirely w r^g and the extent and the adequacy of the unfair to say that the State Govern- meteorological warnings that were ment did not do anything , was not 32t Cyclones and AGHAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in Southern States (Ms.) aware of the danger, or was in a the Andhra Pradesh Government. . .. state of shock for six days. It is total- (Interruptions) I must protest against ly wrong. We have got the instruc- this, because there has been a deli- tions that were given to the Collec- berate attempt, a planned attempt to tors of the 8 coastal districts, the demoralise, denigrate and humiliate warnings that high storms were likely, the Andhra Pradesh Government. I tidal waves were likely, and that would very humbly tell my friends on action should be taken immediately the other side that this is not the thereafter. Despite the fact that com- way to meet a national calamity. If munication systems were disrupted as it is a national calamity, you have a result of the cyclone, the adminis- got to rush to their rescue. Do you trative machinery got into gear, the know that the Andhra Pradesh Gov- Collectors and the senior officers re- ernment, the entire administration, ached Guntur and Machilipatnam the Chief Minister himself and thous- and immediately steps were taken to ands of officials, have been working open relief camps, to give inoculations f$r the last 16 days round the clock.. and to give food. When we went there (interruptions) It is entirely wrong, I on the 25th, by then we ourselves saw must say.... (Interruptions) I am thousands of people being fed, cloth very sorry to say that this is most un- being distributed, cash relief of Rs. 150 fortunate. I strongly protest against being given to each family which is this attempt to make political capital affected, and Rs. 1,000 to the next of from a national disaster. $ot only kin of those who have lost their lives that. Unfortunately, the army is also and various other measures that were being dragged into the controversy being taken. quite unnecessarily. I would like -to say that it is our national army, it is n6t the Congress army ^r the Jana- The main difficulty was the re- ta anhjc, it is the^MHan army, and it storation of the communication sys- is the duty of all of us not to drag it tem, the road system. Army wireless unnecessarily into a \ controversy. was pressed into service and, as soon Army helicopters were ulhpd for air- as water cleared, helicopters Began to dropping, army wirelesses were pres- make trips. Up to the 23rd about 100 sed into service. In a detailed message sorties were made by the helicopters that was sent by the Chief Minister food packets had been dropped and of Andhra Pradesh to the hon. Prime 5,000 tonnes of foodgrains were rushed Minister on the 21st. within 48 hours to the affected areas. Cooked food of the tragedy, he has acknowledged was also distributed in a big way. 1 gratefully the help given by the army haw a lot of details with me with re- and air force authorities. agrd to this, 125,000 dhoties have been distributed and 90,000 sarees. Water supply has been re-established, elec- Why is it that there is this political tricity has been restored and almost cyclone has been unleashed against the entire population has been the Andhra Pradesh Government? I covered by anticholera inoculation. am very glad that the hon. Prime Minister is here, because he has always wanted to $reate high standards of The people of Andhra Pradesh were p^ i c ^bfitofftogr. and I must say that hit by the cyclone and the tidqj waves tffNBfSlieiits made by him and the which is a natural calamity. But what hem. President were balanced once. is really shocking, at least to this side But the same cannot be said of all of the House, is this that instead of members of the Prime Ministers rushing to the rescue of these people, party. I was very sorry and shocked instead of encouraging the Andhra to read the statements. One hon. Pradesh Government, very unfortuna- Member, a very senior Minister, a for- tely, attempts were being made to mer colleague, said that for six days have a political propaganda against the Andhra Pradesh Government did 2856 LS—11. 323 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 334 Southern States (Ms.) [Dr. Karan Singh] even if you take the view that such and such a thing should have been not do anything to bring relief. This done, this is no way or time to ex- is an absolute falsehood. When the en- ploit the situation. Day in and day tire administration is involved, wnen out statements are being made by thousands of people, from school tea- responsible members of the ruling chers to patwaris. are involved in party attempt to humiliate and relief work, why is it that this sort of denigrate the Andhra Pradesh Gov- attempt is being made to demoralise ernment. I would urge that this House them? Can it be— the Prime Minis- is a tribune of the nation where we ter will forgive me—because in the must rise above petty considerations; last general elections the Andhra Pra- and we must desist from exploiting desh people firmly and overwhelming- human misery. ly stood by the Congress and 41 out of 42 seats were won by the Congress Here I have one concrete sugges- Party? The Andhra Pradesh peo- tion. After the current session of ple are very intelligent. They made Parliament ends, I suggest that an onfc very distinguished exception. The all-party team, led by the hon. Spea- hon. President of the Republic was ker, including, if possible, the Prime that exception Otherwise it was a Minister, the Leader of the Opposi- clean sweep. It is because of this that tion and members from all parties of now*, when this national calamity has both Houses, may visit the affected be fallen us, that these sort of state- States in order to study the progress ments are being made. of relief work. Let us look forward to the problems that are ahead, and not backwards and blame each other 1 would again appeal to the mem- for this disaster. t bers of the Janata Party. They were talking about seven Ministers. I agree Not only, the nation but the whole that they have no monopoly of oppor- world is watching how We behave in tunism. There are opportunistic d e - this calamity. You will remember ments in our party also. but I would that a terrible calamity occurred in urge: let us not make political capi- China, and they were able to rebuild, tal; even in South India, let us not but here, instead Of rebuilding, we exploit a natural disaster. May I find this onslauht on the Andhra point out to hon. friends opposite Pradesh Government, we find recri- that even in the north the wind has mination every day. This is no way to changed? The results in U.P. have enthuse and encourage the people shown that even there this wave is working there. They are ebbing. Please therefore do not try working day in and day out, to use this sort of methods to make 18 to 20 hours a day. I have seen them your party strong in the south. You there. The Chief Minister and half his will only succeed in weakening the Cabinet is there. Our sympathy should party and the Government at a time go to them, our support should go to of national calamity. them. There is urgent need for massive re- I have lived with national calami- lief, aid and assistance from the Gov- ties for 20 years. I have been in a ernment of India. I would like to con- border State where four times we have gratula+p the Prime Minister on what been attacked, where planes have he said in the last intervention, name- flow'll over our heads laden with ly that money will be no considera- bombs. I know that at a time of nation, but I sincerely hoT>e that his Fin- tional calamity it is the dutv of ance Ministry also takes it in the same everybody to rally together. Maybe light. I have had the bitter experi- something better could have been ence for ten years m the Government. done—I do not take that view beca- Whatever may be the Government po- use I have myself been there; but licy, sometimes the procedures are 325 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 326 Southern States (Ms.) such that things get bogged down and Where are many other things whicn then they will say, cut out of the plan require to be done but I will not take allocations, cut out from here or cut too much time of the House. I would out from there. The assistance must finally like to commend the tremend- be given in addition to the plan allo- ous courage and fortitude that the cation. Then alone will the problem survivors have shown. We have been of rehabilitation be solved at all and round and met people who have lost even then it will be a long range pro- everything. Yet I may say, they have cess. We must not only involve the not lost their dignity and they have Government, we must involve all sec- not lost their courage. It was a mov- tions of society. If it is a national ca- ing experience to see the people who lamity, all citizens must be in- have lost seven members of their volved whether they are from Kash- family. Even then they were erect, mir or Kanyakumari or whether they they have not panicked and they have are from Gujarat or Arunachal Pra- no hysteria. We owe it to them to desh. Our nation is like a human rise to the occasion. If it is a national body. Any pain in any part of the disaster, let us rise above party consi- body is bound to reflect in the entire derations, let us sink our differences organism. Therefore, the entire na- and rally to the help of the people. If tion must be mobilised for this. we do less than this, we will be in- sulting the memory of the dead and I would urge the hon. Prime Minis- we will be jeopardising the welfare ot ter to consider what measures need the living. to be taken on a long range basis in order to meet this calamity. I have suggested the setting up, on a perma- firarc Jfrgtai (*ftp>r nent basis, of a national disaster miti- fAn additional radar installation is *r f , o t M+to h * ) urgently necessary at the Machilipat- 100 ft T O % foyft cT? % nam coast. The Meteorological De- partment which is doing good work, 371T iTI^r I fa* requires to acquire a reconnaissance ?Tpft ^ aircraft which could fly into the heart of the storm and thereby supplement % WZX ^RTT tjfTrft 3TT the computer forecasting that the Me- fl+dl 'SfT :3?T teorological Department does. I iTFpfhr The cropping pattern will also have 'Sn* f^rr ctf tt ^r to be changed. Previously, the crops 'dH+'t ^rr ^ vj^r^fr ^rrr^T used to mature in December. But as a result of green revolution, the high yielding varieties mature in Novem- firrrf, ^rrarf ^fnr *rt sf t f t ?tt t o , ber. But in October and November vTT-yi fan *T OT*T invariably there are cyclones and floods. So the Orissa Rice Research ?r Institute, the Pusa Institute should get fc l f f I ,rj ^T ^ ?rfiij- *3TT ^ fqr 3 ff qT ^T f+tfll sfrrfnff % q ^ r % % ^rnr c t m- M^ls g’MI ^ I *lfi ^ r firsr.Tifn: wfiTtT^rqrftr^ri'fr | fe ?TF5T if ^5ft j® f5 r |, ^ tr^ ^ # r fir^r ^ ft ^ ft «r#f qf^r trî ft ^fWf rifi?vw to i t \ sto; * f ^ |, ^ |, TO («t^l< *T *T^T yWT «TT; rft MV spiT ftTf % apfT I ftr ?TF5T if ^TT 't ^KHl ^T f® f t ^TRIT «IT, f w TOT r H^ftx fe n Sff ?fk ^5T ^T SqTT *T ^HTT fa r ^ ift ^ fr q r ^ f t f^TTqr%fer^:fen«iT, srk ^ fN c T %tut, rff ^Tft ^ t # <+'l < % I K T % r^ iK q?t flfWdl *T MW\ st*T- 5ft f® ^ft v p N if t ?ft ^rf, TFT fi^TT «rr I 5TT3T 1TW ^T f® f t ^PwHM ^TR q>T ^ f t % ? R ^ T ftvC f^TT ?rro sst ct ^ t|, vl *T mIV qit§ ^♦JV ^ ^ % «Tfr ^ft^rf % ^y»i :37f 7?i i ^hi ^rrfîT, >d^t% ?n% ^TT^rt ^ FFT % Jr v m i p f f f f t # 1 ^t szrnr ^rnT% Tiv4^ld+ ^TPTT ft» ^ f TO^H ^t ^ ^ t fw fiw ^rfem ^ fq^ft t^fft iWTqiH JIT ^R^PT ^rr ^rc mRR^Ri ftr^ft— jrort* ^ fe fr % r ^r% ^r ^fewf ^ «q^pr ) wpFfhr 3^29 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 330 1 Southern States (Ms.) i i # w pfift ^rfîT f% ^rqft^rirî i t 5TT5 SPT % «TT^ ir =IKfap3R%^ •^r^Jrs^srra'^t>a I i fc^ft W t »T5ft if ^R^TT •TTcFf dnp if "' M’ilfd 1 % ^rtn* ^ftr ^fnr tp^t §t(tt rh I ^TTqff W>1 s f e ^ t % fir ^ it TTsT STFST *K*T< ^T ft^FT *fV ^ft TO^fâr t^FT^t t WT^TT =r» 1 ?TT I ^Tf^TT I ^T ^ft^T 4^1 fisTT % Sri^JT T3!- rRT ^3 ft’HT | % ?RT 5n^r rfT pst ^ tt % if ^ eft 3fTT ^cf-dr ?r % r f e n |, I, % fer^ r *mi ft ^7; ^ T % ?TFT % ^TPT- if ^TPfRTT ir^T f I ^Tff^tr ^ feq"[ f> I °F^T c!^ f f ^t t t ir f^ ^rrr % f r ftr^r *t, itn ^TPKT ^t ^rfefir^H ÎM ^ 1f[ff I (SJW H) ?flr ^Hd 1 Tr^r f^ fe n w ^t?t ^Fr fwrrw, *rt fafasiT ^^fPT % ftr ^r 4T«iH îfir- sf, ^*ft ^ ^.. ^ f ^^TT fe ^ n w ^ ^ r foife- «f t ?rm?r (V^l I °f*^l f^> ?TT% if 75ST . . . (®TWFT) . . . ^ ^^TT ^4i< ^TFT % fin+ IT ^TfcTT g 19, 20?fiT 21cnft^ ft* f I 3fT qT tr^T WiTT ^TT | fip ^TT W?t 9WT T3W j^STTT w 2r ? _ . ( « m R ) ^ftr ct^ft ^rra' ffprT i <^1 *tt ^ O H?*RTTW^T TR ( ) ^f^ff # ^r | 1 ^t ^rfefa- 5TTT % ^ T firf^ST '^T f?«T ^TRn^T %9Ff SjfT % TRT | ? STFET % i f % 1 w ?rnT w firforrw fMpRrK ^Ft ^ TT&1 °hT| ^ Tt> frfT ^^|rT . . . I % ? ?pff < i^ f $t£t 7 ^ n r 8 ^TTT, 3T 10 ^nR « ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. ^TT ^ ^T^T fWT WT ??T ^ ? Satyanarayan Rao, you are going to ^t f et if ^ft |^rr STPT ^ r *TT speak on this. If you do not want to speak and shout, then I cannot help. ^pt yl^n % ?n^T ^rr- *|?T f , ^ T % SR7 ^ SHRI M. SATYANARAYAN RAO: Sometimes shouting is necessary. |, r sdrKi % «tm*ii ^ %^r MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. no. it is not necessary. 1RR if ? fi’ ^f5«ii ^T^cTr g fif» ^ JWdl^t TT ^ 5^+t^ ^ ^ftT finnr j*ii< ii^^hiT .* XT5 yid!«T SH FEf ^ ^ T ; j f R - f I ft ?nft ^ft ^TT ^T^rTT f , ?TT?5T ^ 0 ^ T ^TW T ^TT ^ *n * cTT *T 3 1% , mI^T ?TT^7T ^T ft» fV»rlH *TK fefr VT^TW ^T |T, 331 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 332 Southern States (Ms.) [sft fcrsr?T ^ V r ] ^T ^T ^>T % ^ T f ^T ^T ^ «r t o % ?^ r ?t r V ^fT WT ^tff ?. TO ^ 5 ^rfftj i w t % i m ^f ^t| ftrf^T f^TT TOT tit* ^fT iTH^lX ^RT ^t^q ^ft tom ft m f^rft pn *Tf ^n%î%FTO % f^r^T tom fr ^r ^nft TrwNrt" ^t to t ft s^rr |, ssfer ? fk % f e r t^FT 44 m ^ ' ft% q f *Ffr 1 ftTR^T fn 5 R T % ^ ^ T ^ T I I 2?f t f t ; *Tf^fr 5t+ ^ 1% OT M®t»I ^ r«mlrf t ft* ^fl qT TOt TOf '5TT ^rs^ftq^TTO ^f ^tt qf^r ?n f ^ftr ^ft ?nô ^fto trô snll ftPfT ^T 3Tf HI^Th | t i x * fqrr ft ^Tf ft fa fe r st^tt 3Ft faTfa qfr strtY f , ^FfffT ^Tf^T ^ f°F ^T TOM ^FT fTOT TO ft^TT STfc f e r qi€f TOM TOT^ |tTHT^^T^t ber. I also want to express my thank* to the President of the Indian Republic TOR § f f TO % 24 ^ who visited Andhra on 24th or 25th % ^TT^T *TTO f*M November, and also our Agriculture to ^ t fe24 *rt ft f e r qr m Minister, Shri Barnala, who visited the affected areas. They have got all JfTC *Tf J^flH if Z I first hand information. On 30th No- m * *Tf t eft 24 ^ % vember, our Prime Minister visited personally and got all first-hand infor- ? R T ^TTft ^ t There are some other figures I would So I would request all the Members like to give. The Andhra Government who are visiting us (we welcome them has already opened 199 camps for and we will give them all facilities) poor-feeding during the last 15 days. not to make this a political issue. Elec- So many people from other countries tions are there, but there are so many and other States are also visiting the other aspects also. Ninety per cent of place even without-the knowledge of our policies are the same and we differ •or without the request of the Andhra only in the matter of implementation. •Government. The number of persons We all want to help the poor man and rendered homeless, according to the get rid of corruption. •official figures, is 30 lakhs but I think nearly 50 lakhs of people have been . rendered homeless. The total damage I would like to make a personal re- to crops is Rs. 30 lakhs and odd and quest to the Prime Minister kindly to the loss of cattle and other livestock consider the request of Chief Minis- like goats, pigs etc. is nearly 5 lakhs. ter, Andhra Pradesh and rush to them all the help that is required £t the All small farmers and agricultural present hour. labourers, particularly Ilarijans, had borrowed from nationalised banks to develop themselves, but even these I have visited all the affected dis- people have lost their bullock-carts tricts myself and seen their miserable etc. So, all their loans taken from na- plight. One of the immediate require- tionalised banks should be written off. ment of the farmers in these districts During a calamity like this even pri- is fertilisers in terms of ammonia sul-' vate loans are asked to be written off. phate. Unless you rush them two hun- So, these loans which the agricultural dred thousand tonnes of this fertilizer, labourers and Harijans had taken from they would not be able to grow their nationalised banks should be written second crop. In my district, West off. Godavari alone, 70 per cent of the crop has already been harvested, and 30 per cent has been lost. For second Finally, I would llfce to quote from crop, in my district, alone 1 lakh ton- the letter written by the Chiei£Jflinis- nes of fertilizers are needed. They ter to the Prime Minister:' have to grow again seed-beds. For It would te a sad day if at a tixne that, I would request that free loans jttjjerrê should have utilised every should be provided to them immedi- minute of our time for the relief ately. and rehabilitation of these unfortunate fellowmen we would be divert- In a calamity of this nature, you ing our attention to explaining what are providing for compensation for we have done or failed to do. I certain non-essential goods, but there sincerely believe that officials and is no insurance for the crops and for non-officials and a number of volun- the cattle. We have been asking for tary agencies are presently working that for the last twenty-thirty years, in spite of the most unfavourable but this has not been provided. There 337 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 338 Southern States (Ms.) is no security for the agricultural com- India fought against Pakistan, the munity, and there is no security for Government and the then opposition, the rural population. The carpenters, now the ruling party, all joined hands potters, black-smiths, fishermen etc. together to face that situation. That have all lost their implements. They is why we have won. In this manner need to be looked after immediately we did not discuss the matter. Mr. so that they can re-start their life. I Morarji Desai also spoke on that day would also request that crop insurance in support of the Government’s action should be provided for with immedi- against Pakistan. In the same way, ate effect. let us go jointly because we do not think of to-day only; we have to think Our people are not afraid of a cy- of tomorrow and the day after. Other- clone, but this time it was an unpre- wise, we could have exploited the si- cedented calamity. There Was no in- tuation. I want to exhibit the photos dication or warning about this impend- of the cyclone and the tidal havoc in ing calamity by the Meteorological the Central Hall with the permission Department regarding the tidal wave. of the Speaker. The photos will bo The scientists have not been able to coming in 2 or 3 days. If you see provide any satisfactory explanation them, you will know what it is like— for the fire seen in the sea. Let us the cyrlone havoc and the tidal havoc. not blame any Government or any People Igpni other parts of the country official; they took the required pre- will notfjeasily believe that the An- cautions. The tidal wave covered an dhras have lost so much. As an ins- area of 500 square metres and you tance to show how people are ignor- will appreciate that it is not possible ant. I will tell you one incident. to take all the required precautions in Some years ago some scientists and that short period even if there is an some engineers visited our place. indication earlier about it. They asked: ‘Sir, how is the water getting into the coconut?’ So, they are We have seen that there have been laymen and they do not know thes* a number of railway accidents in the things. country during the last few years. The Government and particularly the Please don’t take advantage of this Railway Minister are very much wor- calamity in Andhra in a political way ried about it. But can we ask them Andhras may not be of the warrior that as the Government is not able to race as you are, but they are a des- check these railway accidents, they perate people. Which way the wind should resign? The fact is that some- will blow, you may not know. body is behind these accidents and the Government will catch hold of them and punish them suitably. Therefore, I want to make a request. Please 1 would request the Government to do not make other friends not to raise render all the assistance required by their voice. We are not for shouting, the Andhra Pradesh Government im- but because you speak something, our mediately and on war footing. friends also shout. .The problems created by the recent I wish to express again our grati- cyclones in the Southern States are tude from our Andhra friends who? beyond their limit. The Prime Min- have suffered. In one of the village? ister has himself seen the devastation we visited, we saw people standing caused by this calamity. He is fortun- in a queue. They were taking Puli- ately present here. I would once again yodara—tarmarind rice. When I ask- request him and the Minister for Agri- ed a lady, she immediately cried. She culture, let us not make it a party was also having 20 acres of land. issue; it is a national issue and has to She said, ‘I am having 20 acres. What be tackled at national level. When use? My children have Jill died. 339 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 340 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri K. Suryanarayana] officials ran to the spot. It was really an unexpected calamity. Every That is why I am here in the queue. school was converted into a hospital Sir, this is the plight to which our and every teacher went there. We people have been reduced to. patrolled the whole area and collected the rotting corpses and set fire Sir, with these words, I once again to them. International and other thank you for giving me this oppor- national relief It is a terrible national calamity. Nearly 5400 transformers have been Therefore, at this time of distress damaged by the fury of the cyclone. the Government is propelled to mobi- The 66 K. V. Massive transmission lise all the resources and forces at its tower on Tiruvarur route has collapsed. disposal to carry out relief and rehabilitation measures on war footing. Almost all the land to the extent of nearly 5 lakh acres adjoining both So far as the Government of Tamil sides of the rivers are silted up with Nadu is concerned, soon after the mud. It requires several crores of cyclone havoc, the Governm&ht ma- 1 rupees for desilting the land. chinery rushed to the spot with 4 Helicopters, one Dakota and two Av- Out of 16400 irrigation tanks, 3818 t o s to supply the immediate necessi- tanks have been breached by the ties to the victims in. the affected area. flood. Repairing them* alone will cost Our Chief Minister Puratchi Thalai- Rs. 13 crores. var, M.G.R. wherever it was not possible to travel by road due to floods, About 6450 kilometres langth of made aerial visits. He rushed to the roads belonging to National and State other areas by car to succour the vic- Highways Department and 1200 Kilo- tims. metres of Panchayat and Union roads are affected by the flood and cyclone. Then he deputed Honourable Minis- There are 4309 breaches in Highways ters immediately to the affected areas roads and 893 breaches in Panchayat to take all tangible relief measures roads. without delay. 18 major bridges, 667 culverts and 72 minor bridges were washed away. The staggering loss in men and The cost of repairs to the roads, bri- material defies description. Accord- dges and tanks damaged by the recent ing to the available information in cyclone in Tamil Nadu are esti- Press and Government nearly 600 mated to be over Rs. 30 crores. persons lost their lives. All the colleges in Tiruchi town Kudakanar Dam recently construc- were submerged and marooned by ted at the cost of Rs. 4 crores was flood waters for many days. Libra- washed away by the flood. ries, laboratories, everything was washed away in the flood which'-caus- The dam constructed across Vallal ed a loss of Rs. 1.5 crores. Nathi was also swept away by the flood. Thanjavur had esgêrienced the fury of cyclones and flood in 1900, The standing crops over the area of 1952. 1955 and 196L 5.75 lakh acres have been affected extensively. Sir. since 1900, we have not come The crops in 1,20,000 acres in Tan- across a cyclone of such a virulent jore and Trichy districts are totally nature. Almost all river Cauvery, lost. KoUidam, Vaikal, Amaxayathi, Pennar, ^43 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 344 Southern States (Ms.) TShri V. Arunachalam] waters. In many places, he saw banana gardens, coconut and plan- Palar, Thambiraparani, Kadana tain graves and several small houses Nadhi, Rama Nathi and Chitra Nathi and huts destroyed’’. were on spate. The river Cauvery carried the maximum designed capa- “The Tamil Nadu Government ana city of around. 1.82 lakhs cusecs of its officials had done a good job m water in 1961. But, this time, it carried providing relief to the victims as a little over 3 lakhs cusecs of water. expeditiously as possible”. The eight-member Central study team Never in the history of Tamil Nadu under the leadership of Shri R. K. have we faced such a colossal loss Saxena inspected all the affected areas of lives and property. The virulent and discussed with the officers and hands of the cyclone have almost des- said: troyed the coastal beauty of our land. A true friend never fails to come to I quote: rescue at the time of distress. Aptly so, soon after the cyclone while our “The leader of the team. Mr. R. K. affected people were perching like Saxena, told newsmen that their im- birds on rooftops of buildings and pression was that relief work had trees and standing dazed with tears and. been provided in time, and the peo- tattered clothes in battered conditions, ple were on the whole satisfied with our President, Prime Minister and ‘ the relief measures undertaken. other Central Ministers visited the affected areas, to pat and pacify the The State administration has victims. On behalf of the people of left no stone unturned in giving re- Tamil Nadu, especially, the victims of lief to the affected people and we cyclone, I thank the President, the are very much impressed by'the way Prime Minister and all the other mem- the State Government has coordina- bers! who have visited! the aiTected ted the relief work/' areas. Sir, above all, the tribute given by No doubt, our State Government has our Prime Minister to the officers 'vho taken speedy and effective steps for have been entrusted with the burden relief and rehabilitation work. It has of the relief work is noteworthy. He been duly acknowledged by all the sîd to the correspondents at Madras . celebrities. Shri Bahuguna, our Min- airport and I quote: ister, who visted there has admired “The spirit for social work the work done by our Government. evinced by the Tamil Nadu Govern- Sir, the Minister has in reply to a ment officials should be appreciated'. question, denied that Government or Government machinery did not act Sir, I am referring to all these things swiftly in meeting the situation cau- not for any pontiflcation but just to sed by floods. They had taken all state how our State Government has possible steps to meet the challenge done its duty for the restoration of and in providing succour to the affect- the normal life of the victims. We ed people. have done our best. At the same time we are not content with this imme- Sir, it will be more appropriate if diate relief of this type. We want I refer to what our Defence Minister, longterm permanent and constructive Mr Jagjivan commended about the measures. That can be taken only relief work in Tamilnadu. Talking to with the help of the Centre. newsmen at Raj Bhavan after his visit, he said: In Tamil Nadu, the total lost amounts “He found standing paddy orcDs to nearly Rs. 200 crores. Now, the in ripe stage submerged under flood Government have proposed to spend 345 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 346 Southern States (Ms.) It 100 crores for relief and rehabi- Commission is based on wise policy. litation work. At the same time, the It is a challenge not only to our abi- Government at the Centre which is lity but also to our nobility and expected to share a heavy responsibi- spirit of unity. That is why a change lity at the time of this national cala- in the policy is necessary. I mention- mity and devastation will be guilty of ed certain lapses and omissions and dereliction of its duty if it does not defects and laults not with an in- rise to the occasion. tention of making any charge but only, Expending Rs. 100 crores from the to present our difficulties and senti- State Government’s Exchequer is an- ments which have not been duly rea- other havoc financially to the State lised by the Central Government. I Government. So, the Central Govern- know this is not the time to criticise ment must come forward to bear at or accuse anybody. It is a vital hour least the major portion of the expen- for lending a helping hand. There- diture which is proposed to be spent fore, with folded hands I beg to the by the State Government. The res- Central Government to change the ponse from the Centre is not ade- principle of the Sixth Finance Com- quate. It has granted only Rs. 7 cro- mission to wipe out the rolling tears res as advance towards the relief mea- from the cheeks of millions and mil- sures so far. The magnitude of the lions of people. If the Central Gov- calamity and the stupendous task ernment with an annual income of Rs. facing the State Government have 12,000 crores fails to resuscitate the been testified by the President, the normal life of the victims, don’t think Prime Minister and other Central lea- your inability will be established; in- ders. The attitude of the Govern- stead your irresponsibility and in- ment granting money towards the re- difference will be exposed to the world. lief work is far below what we ex- SHRI R. VENKATARAMAN (Mad- pected eagerly to be. The Central ras South): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, Government have been repeatedly say- my colleague and comrade Arunacha- ing that money is not a problem. Help lam has given details of the losses that will be given. At the same time the had accurred in Tamil Nadu. The diffi- Central Government is insisting on cutly that arose in Tamil Nadu was the principle of Sixth Finance Com- that there was continuous rain before mission. I am quite sure without the cyclone. Then there was a cy- changing the principle of the Sixth clone and it was followed by conti- Finance Commission it is highly im- nuous rain thereafter acentuating the possible for this Government to help difficulties oven of relief measures. the State Government. We know the The cyclone affected the coastal areas Central Government was generously and devasted the whole place. Floods granting money for relief measures affected Tirucharpalli district and but some States took undue advantage completely submerged two major ci- of it and magnified the factual posi- ties, namely, Tirucharapalli and Sri- tion and manipulated the actual loss- rangam. The Kodagarar dam burst es. As a result thereof the Sixth Fin- Completely submerged the Vedasun- ance Commission was forced to adopt dur area and hundreds cf lives were a principle. But the present situation lost Now, it is because of the floods is a different one. It is accepted by and the cyclone coming together that all that it is a national calamity. Since the problem was accentuated and the it is a national calamity extraordinary losses have become very acute and consideration of the Central Govern- severe. When we went round arM* ment is indispensable. I want to know saw those areas we found that misery from the Central Government whether was writ large on the faces of the it is going to change the principle of people which cannot be described. the Sixth finance Commission and whether our Prime Minister thinks Sir, I must at the outset pay my tri- that the principle of the Sixth Finance bute to the Tamil Nadu Government 347 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 348 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri R Venkataraman] tely impossible. Normally, in Govern- ment, we would announce a date on for the prompet and effective action which those trees would be auctioned whLh they took. Sir, I do not belong and then on that particular date auc- to that party, but certainly where good tion would be held. The highest bid- work is done, it must be acknowled- der will have to cut and take the trees. ged. The Government immediately This will take at least 15 days to one took steps not only to rush relief month and during that penod, the measures to those places but what entire road would be blocked and they did was even more effective work the communication would be affected by way of evacuating the people from The Tamil Nadu Government said the coastal areas and then finding them “anybody who wants to cut and carry shelter in view of the oncoming cy- away the trees can do so”. By this alone. There was a heated discus- the entire road block was cleared with- sion a few minutes ago about the pro- in 24 hours. I mention this because vision of relief measures by the An- in future the Government may take dhra Government in the cyclone affec- a lesson from this. Of course, by ted areas. If one -had looked at the this process, they might have violated chronology of events, otie would, un- the rules. Perhaps they may even be derstand that even on the ]9th till charged by the Public Accounts Com- 4 O’clock — that afternoon — the mittee for not following the usual Meteorological department said that procedure as laid down in the rules the cyclone was hitting the Madras for disposing of the trees. But by City coast and all the people in the doing what they did, it enabled the Madras city, people particularly liv- restoration of the communication sys- ing in the coastal areas, particularly tem and relief measures could be rush, in the Foreshore Estates and other ed to various areas as quickly as pos- places, should be compelled to move sible. 1 out of that place. In fact, when people were reluctant to move out, electricity was cut and they were compelled to move out of those places. I do not want to repeat the figures It was only after 4 O’ clock in the which my freind Mr. Arunachalam had evening—sometime at about 6 O' clock given. But I would say what should or so — they sald-that the course of be done in future. The need for work the cyclone had changed and that is imminent, urgent and necessary so it was going to hit the Andhra coastal far as the agricultural lands are con- districts of Nellore, Vijayawada and cerned. There is already the report Masulipatnam. So, it would be wrong of the Tamil Nadu Government that to say that the information was given thousands of acres of land have bees earlier in respect of the severity of silted with sand and they have got the attack, in respect of Andhra. Every to be reclaimed. I would appeal to body was fearing and feeling appre- the Government to request the Reserve hensive that it was going to hit the Bank of India to take immediate ac- Madras coast and all the precautions tion through the Land Development were taken only against the cyclonic Banks for affording the necessary relief devastation in the Madras area. There- for the purpose of reclamation of the fore there is no use of shifting the land. We do not want the Central burden on one side or the other, shift- Government to give any aid. The peo- ing the blame on one side or the other. ple who own lands do not want any It is better that we devote ourselves help in that way. All that they want to the task of rehabilitation. The is that immediate credit should be Tamil Nadu Government also did a available on a long term basis i-preac very nice tiling. The roads were over 15 to 20 years so that they can triocked with the uprooted trees and reclaim their land and then make communications had become comple- them cultivable. Many lands will not 349 Cyclones and AGHAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 350 Southern States (Ms.) be able to raise a second crop in this when I went round, oaying homage or the next season. On account of to the cyclone God who had destroyed that it is possible that food produc- them. They cannot be put up again; tion in Tanjore district will go down. they will have to be planted again My appeal to the government is that and loan and subsidy will have to be immediate instructions be given to given for replanting both. A subsidy the Reserve Bank to give liberal loans of about Rs. 300—500 per acre is neces- through land development banks for sary to supoprt new and fresh plan- the purpose of land reclamation. tations and bring them up. The second thing is, crops have I would also suggest that there been destroyed and the Tamilnadu should be a moratorium on these loans. government, I am sure, will give re- A coconut starts yileding after ten venu remission. I would suggest that years and if a person is asked at the the levy may be suspended in Tanjore end of the second or third year tfte district. That is the area where crops instalment and the interest .it is a have been completely submerged; the sure way of ruining him. In respect whole crops have been destroyed. It of those crops which take a long gas- is not proper to continue the levy in tation period to yield, particularly co- that district where there has been so conuts, a moratorium for payment may much destruction. Whatever little be given. The cattle lo3t has been is available will be distributed among considerable. People in the district, the people in the district and levy when I went round asked for small is causing a great deal of hardship. loans of Rs. 200 or 300. I do not know; When I went round the district they the other side may be allergic to the said: at least save us from the levy for twenty point programme but so far this particular harvest; the next har- as we are concerned, we had imple- vest you can have levy and for that mented the twenty point programme we have no objection. But so far as in Tamilnadu so effectively and fidt this harvest is concerned, the levy loans to the poor people from the must be immediately withdrawan. banks to carry on small trade, smaTi business and so on. With the result that when I went round this time they With regard to loans, I may say asked me to get again the very same that the loss has been so great that loans. I told them that the govern- they would not be able to repay this ment had changed and I could no even in the future. If they could not longer get it. They said: you are the write off any instalment and the in- person who got it the last time; why terest, at least the interest thereon for don’t you get it again. Therefore, T this particular year should be written should like some of my friends there- off. Unless they write off the interest, to come to Tanjore district in Tami;- ~the accumulated interest and interest nadu and see how people there ap- on interest carried over for ten or 15 preciated small loans tfiven by thr? years will become three times the banks to them to carry on small busi- amount and the burden will increase ness and trade. so much that they will not be able to bear. So at least the interest due The next item is houses. About five on cooperative and other loans for this lakhs of houses—that was the figure year may be written off. given to me by the government—have been. destroyed and a house on an Next seriously affected area is plan- average costs anything between 500 tations. In Tanjore district we have and 5000. If you put it at an average a large number of coconut, banana, of Rs. 2000, the loan required woirfd betel-vine plantations. All those trees? be of the order of Rs. 100 croreis. -which have been standing for ten years There again, no subsidy is required. •or even 50 years, were lying prostrate All that we want is a liberal aid by 351 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 35: Southern States (Ms.) [Shri R. Venkataraman] (q'fr) : wwrer the Reserve Bank, in the form of long 3ft *rrf w z , Jr^r, term loans so that they may rebuild 5TO, H ^ and repair the houses. In Tamil Nadu, % snTfr ?rr t ?t t*. during my time, I had started an institution known as the House Mort- fcra ^ 20 gage Banks. There are financial in- sTTf jttt fr 1 stitutions to provide credit for build- ^rnr m k h m jtw ft |’^rrr ing houses, but there are no societies for helping people to repair the house?. f, ^Ttf We have started one such society and Htsft | ?r ^rtf m m | 1 the result was we could help from the Reserve Bank for the pur- fassl t 3U TT^T tK^R pose. That institution may be re- «T % ^ T CTT vived not only here but all over the % sqr ^ fcrcpn suf | srk s t t country and people may be helped to rebuild the houses, repair the houses ^71 ^ ^ with the help of loans given by the | I Reserve Bank. The next point is, in Tiruchirapalli, Ot 9rst | fa as I said, rivers Cauvery and Coleroon joined together. In fact they were ^ yrvrc sftr ^ r f f s^sfi separated and Lcrd Ranganatha stays in the middle. The name ‘Srirangam’ TT WWHI ^fasr WK stays because of the encircling of the God by the two rivers. The temple flft f fip^^Wffrtfatft*ft'5P^^*:i# and the neighbouring areas were all Tr3pfrfw if 3TPTT t 9H5RfT f,— submerged under water. Both the sftrr i sftr ^crfl irct rivers came together. I would like to mention that the five Colleges viz., *nr % t>*n frif sft spt ht ^ fam w Seethalakshmi Ramaswamy College, t % forer % spt t t fa*ft *ft JRTt Holycross College, St. Joshoph college, TT*T:ftf5WHPfT ^STUT 3TPT I StT*T 5ft Bishop Heber College and the Na- tional College, have suffered such a ûn -3 irft ^ fa *r«r damage that the Vice-Chancellor of IJ ^ m i * T f^TTT the Madras University, who visited 3?r fr <51 uraisr that place, had estimated that the loss would be of the order of Rs. 1.5 cro- 6 0 yTiT nfk'TSTff vnw res. He lias already Witten to the t t srrf | at ^ tt c S ?r UGC and has asked for^ assistance in this regard. I would like the UGC ^>t + w i ^ 1 ^ to give a sympathetic consideration to f t w wfar srft %fa^r %eH this and give all possible *help. Other-; %5T *r Jlf? 60 2 0—30 wise, it will be very difficult for tttese institutions to run. Lastly, there ^s a United Nations Distress Relief Orga- faifT ^TT fl+ffT t I ^ $ST %■ nisation (UNDRO) which gives relief % sRTPfi firf^: ^5i Jr ^ to various countries when they are affected by disasters of this kind, w stct flood, fire and so on. It would be *m *fT y^w rr a good idea to approach this interna- I t 9W9T f fa W yi+K % tional organisation for relief in this regard. 'TIW 95T,;^ f ?ft ftW 5fTR siimv 353 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 354 Southern States (Ms.) % wwrfzprf farftr % sf\% fd«b4 +<^ if H-*iiiii rcr ^ ^ 1% 1z i *vi % ^r>ff ^ ^ft % srftr | fftr ?h #s*rnr ^t farrar* ?fr f ^ T ^t ftra- fsra* ^ sft f>ft, IJ^RHT ^>T^T I ^ft f^T cKir.,.1 ^ I ^TWR f^T ’Ml5^1 ^n^TT îHdT ^rt ?TT^T ^ f^F f^f ^ 16.56 hrs. ^^t Sr^riM °hl ^T°hI«lT ^> [Shri D. N. T i w a r i , in the Chair] ^3RT % f^TTT di||< ^TRT ^ T % fir^ TcTT % *Tf «fid ^ f% st+ i 1 qr ^TT g w ?Tft *rf I # *Tf SHRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM ^TRHcTT g 5t*F % Si^TT 3HR (Tiruchirapalli): Sir, I do not want to take the time of the House by going ^ *ft *TRft sflr ^ r % ^/TT ^ <+T< JZl into details of the losses suffered as SHTW ^Tcft, cR *ft f^TRT f TcIT, a result of the cyclonic havoc in Tamil- ft *RkTT I f% ^ 5 m ftcTT I ^rf%tT f^f nadu, Andhra Pradesh and other places. Previous speakers have given the STRT *t ^Tfft T^TT f% f^ ft % details. Speaking about Tamilnadu, Star ?tpt ftnn ^ *tt ^Tft Pwi ^ I ^ ^Trft the details given by Shri Arunachalam and Shri R. Venktaraman are only ^t r based on the facts given by the ad- m *TW ^9" m fl5) < cHT WTK f% f^fT ^ ministration and even the administra- ^nr fÂii m ^Tft f%m i w\*i ^ft tion admits that the facts are not complete. So, the losses may be still fw^mn- j?tt fir ^ T 1 ^TTTT %5T f feft^ ^TRT ^f TrT ^ I sion, we expect the whole nation to stand united and face the aggression. Sp^- %T^T % ftrrr Like that, nature also has its own way 2856 LS—12. 355 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 356 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri M. Kalayanasundaram] Committees have made very valuable suggestions for precautionary mea- of threatening especially our Sotuhern sures when there is a cyclone threat. coast. Geography cannot be changed. They have recommended the steps to Our peninsula is under tropical zone. be taken before the commencement of The tropical seas have their own be- cyclone season, during the cyclone haviour. We have to learn to live with season and after the cyclone season. cyclones of the Bay of Bengal, of the Some guidelines are there as to what Indian Ocean and of the Arbian Sea. should be done. Even with regard to We have to prepare our people and we these recommendations, I think they have to prepare our administration for are still in the library records. A de- that cision has not been taken on these re- Some hon. Members were saying commendations. But this is not the that the Andhra Government was not responsibility of the Meteorological doing the correct thing cr doing a Department. Other departments must wrong thing. Even when the relief come together and take a decision and work has been done properly, what give guidelines to the district adminis- are the steps taken by way of pre- tration. If there is a break-down of ventive measures? Except for some law and order, the District Collector administrative measures taken in knows what he is expected to do. If Kerala, nothing was done by way of there is a declaration of Emergency, preventive measures in both Tamil he knows what he has to do. If there Nadu and Andhra, although the warn- is a famine, he knows what he has ing was given. We have to admit that to do. But if there is a devastation our meteorological system has made on such a colossal scale due to cyclone tremendous advance during the past and tidal wave, the District Collectors 15 years of our Independence in spite are unable to know what they are ex- of the hangover of the colonial rule pected to do. But it is left to the of more than two centuries. Before district administration or the State Independence, the function of the me- Government. I think the Government teorological system was giving infor- of India should prepare the State Ad- mation to mercantile ships of the Bri- ministrations and the Defence forces— tish Government or for some limited especially the Navy—and other wings purpose. Today it has advanced. It of Administration, as also the people, is called upon to perform very impor- to face such calamities bravely in ad- tant functions with regard to agricul- vance. There are several suggestions. ture, civil aviation, shipping and so The resident has now repeated these many other things. It has become part suggestions; and the Prime Minister of the economic life of the country. has also done it. It is good that at They have done some useful work least now they remember it. Let the also. There were cyclones previously, losses suffered by our country and as explained by some hon. Members. the lives lost by us be a warning Nowadays the newspapers are also for the future. Let us not be talk- doing some useful work by diving into ing about it as a calamity and a tra- the archives and bringing out the facts gedy, let us transform this tragedy regarding the various cyclones in the and calamity into a opportunity for past. But recently there were two national re-construction and for sav- big cyclones, one in Orissa in 1971 ing the costal areas in the future. That and the other in Andhra Pradesh in should be the attitude of the Govern- 1970. At that time, at the initiative ment of India. Of course, the Minis- of the Central Government, Cyclone ter who is going to reply, alone can- Distress Mitigation Committees have not take the responsibility. All the constitued, one in 1970 and the other concerned Ministers should sit toge- in 1971, The reports of those Com- ther, and think of working out a mittees are there. What was done on scheme for the prevention of such a the basis of those reports? Those calamity. Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 358 Southern States (Ms.) I now come to relief and rehabilita- Coming to the problem of relief and tion. Some experiments have taken 4 rehabilitation of the affected States, the place; and some more experiments Central team has gone there, and the are yet to take place. Although in Ministers of course would have gone the World Meterologioal Conference, there, to console the affected people the Western delegates declined the and to give them encouragement. It proposal of the Indian delegation to is good; but what is needed is money. construct a centre for the study and The State Governments resources are analysis of the tropical cyclones ti.ial very thin. For four years we were waves and storms, because they are suffering from drought in Tamil Nadu. not interested, and they will be in- Even three months ago we were cla- terested only in constructing r»a ^d! mouring for drought relief. This is so and atomic bases in our Ocean, and sudden that the whole thing has chan- not in the construction of bases for ged and now we have to ask for help defending our country against the cy- for reclamation of sand-capped land, clones—our meteorological system has replanation of banana trees and conducted one experiment in 1963, and coconut groves, reconstruction of da- again in 1973 with Soviet collabora- maged dams and breached bunds of tion—Indo-Soviet experiment, as it is the rivers. As at present, the esti- called. In April 1977, there was an- mate comes to nearly Rs. 200 crores. other experiment called the Monex The State Government by itself can- 1977. Again in 1979, they are going not meet this large expenditure. Even to have the Monex i.e. Monsoon Ex- if the amount is allotted from the Plan periment, with the help of the Soviet allocation, the economy of the State meteorologists and ships and also of will suffer, it has already suffered. Indian scientists. This cooperation is a good augury for the future. These Out of 15,000 tanks, 3,000 important experiments will help us to study tanks have been washed away. Many the behaviour of the seas and espe- villages in Mr. Subramaniarn’s consti- cially of the Bay of Bengal, Arabian tuency have been wiped out, you can- Sea and the Indian Ocean, and will not see them. That ha3 happened in b.: of immense help to our meteorolo- Trichy also. The whole economy of gists to forecast not only in the rou- the State, agriculture, industry, all tine manner, but even to fore warn are affected. More than that ,the buil- more precisely about cyclonic storms, ders of the nation—ihe 'ishonnen. and even tidal waves. It is possible. the handloom weavers, lakhs of agri- Theoretically, scientists agree that it cultural labourers, small traders and is even possi ble to attack the cyclone workers in factories — arc in distress. and mitigate its devastation. Theoreti- It is not charity that is needed. The cally, science has advanced so much. nation owes a duty to this section of But we have yet to devise the mecha- the people whose labour it has exploi- nism for the practical implementation ted and built big houses and bunga- of that method. Let us think in terms lows. In the same affected areas, well- of how to give protection to our coun- built houses have not suffered much try against these natural calamities, loss. which have almost become frequent. In places like Srirangam and Tiru- Of one studies the history of cyclonic chirappalli as also Nagapattinam. no storms during the past century and section of the people has been left more, one will find that the cyclone out; even temples and gods have not been spared. Everybody was sub- has become a habitual visitor to one jected to severe loss. Small traders, part or the other of our country. I merchants, peasants, bidi and ciga- suggest that money should be spent rette workers, all have suffered. on these projects also. Money shouli This requires a big programme of not be a problem for these projects. relief. The Tamil Nadu Government 359 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 360 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri M. Kalayanasundaram] he and his team found and assessed.I. is doing its best within its resources. therefore, do not want to go into de- The help given is not adequate. The tails of the various areas where thit» devotion with which the administra- cyclone has; hit and caused terrinc tion is discharging its duty should be destruction and damage in terms of acknowledged. Voluntary organisa- human lives lost, destruction of cat- tions are also coming forward to help. tle, property and standing crops fcnd I must, from this House, acknowledge dislocation of traffic and communica- the services rendered by several volun- tion, which is unprecedented. Al- tary organisations immediately after though the destruction was of such a the cyclone. Particular mention magnitude, the Central Government should be made of the public sector has not taken that much of interest undertaking Bharat Heavy Electricals. which it ought to have taken. I do Thousands of young, trained workers not want to make a political exploi- went into action with some make— tation of the misery of the people in- shift boats to save the people hang- volved in this tragedy; but is it right ing on to trees and house-tops. Their on the part of the Central Government services should be acknowledged and to leave this entirely to the States appreciated. with their meagre resources especially when some of the States had to I would appeal to the Government to undertake similar relief wor* omy §tand by the promise made by the hon. . three or four months before? I would Prime Minister that money will not come to that aspect later. The details be a problem, but it should be given of loss sustained by Andhra Pradesh in time, within three months. Our and Tamil Nadu have been presented people do not want to beg and stand by hon. Members who spoke from in a queue for a handful of rice or those States. / anything like that. They are prepared to work, give them work. Let them I would like to say something about go and build roads and houses, close the loss sustained by my Stale, the breaches, reconstruct the damaged Kerala. In the backround of heavy dams. Labour is available, and the losses in terms of human lives, pro- work is there Please put both toge- perty, etc. sustained by Andhra Pra- ther with some adequate grant and let desh and Tamil Nadu, we i:. oOU— t u o crores 111 t e n x ii 0 1 ioreigu 2,71,74,000. The number of houses exchange by way 01 expoii 01 be a damaged was 19,863. The crop area iood mone. This is the situation in destroyed was 38,400 acres and tne Kerala. The Government nas taken crop area damaged was 52,500 acres, remedial steps which have been chan- number of fishing vessels lost was nelised through the following cate- liu and the number of nshing vessels gories. damaged was 735. Grant of free ration. About 32,000 it must be said to tlie credit, oi the people have been evacuated from the State of Kerala that tney had given « coastal area. We have stopped fishing sufficient warinnig about the cyclone operations in that area. We had to to the people. Not only they had see that iree ration is distributed to given a warning to the people but they the suffering people particularly the had deputed a large police force all fishermen who are the most vulnera- along the coast since the 9th of last ble section of the people and also to month when we had a big land-saue those people who are living below the at Palghat where some people lost their poverty line. That has cost about lives. Tney heeded the auvice &iveii Rs. 70 lakhs. We are still distributing by the Meteorological Department and free ration. Then, famine relief works posted policemen all along the coast. have already been started. Assistance They prohibited the poor fishermen to those people whose houses have been who were living from hand to mouth destroyed; assistance to those persons from going to the sea. If they had whose houses have been damaged; not taken those precautionary mea- assistance regarding mechanised boats sures, certainly, the loss in terms of lost or damaged. Each mechanised human life and property would have boat costs about Rs. One lakh and perhaps exceeded what other States more. 400 such boats have been lost or have suffered. damaged. We are giving assistance Thanks to the blue revolution that regarding country craft lost or dama- has taken place in Kerala in the last ged; we are taking up anti-sea erosion decade and in the neighbouring States, measures, repairs to roads and com- Kerala has a fleet of about 7,000 fish- munications; ex-gratia assistance in th<; ing boats. The total number of peo- case ol deaths and persons missing for ple engaged in the fishing industry more than two weeks and minor irri- comes to 3-4 lakhs. All oi them would gation works. have been in the sea. Probably, everyone would have been killed. We For all these measures, we require had taken enough precautionary mea- about Rs. 5 crores and odd. We have sures. That is why our loss in terms already taken up measures to meet of human life is not that much. We this calamity. I do not want to go are thankful to God. And yet we had into any more details because the time a loss of 80 persons and 62 persons at my disposal is very short. were missing. We have not yet 1 een The problem that Kerala is lacing able to trace the missing persons. today is on two fronts. One is the The Government and a number of terrible and chronic sea erosion. We voluntary organisations have plunged have to launch a massive anti-sea ero- into relief and rehabilitation work. sion work. That is our primary con- The figures that I have ?iven earlier cern. Second is the problem of fre- are exclusive of the cost of remedial quent land-slides. As early as on the measures, relief and rehabilitation ex- 9th of last month, there was a big penses, dislocation., loss of employ- land-slide at Palghat where there was ment. etc. For the last th-ee weeks, a considerable of human life and Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Fioods in 364 Southern Stales (Ms.) LDr, Henry Austin] the cyclonic clouos. &y employing damage to agricultural lands. In new scientific ways we can prevent Mr. Stephen's constituency, land-slides cyclonic storms. have taken place and agricultural THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE operations have been completely para- AMJ itiKlGATiOj* (SHRI SURJIT lysed resulting in the loss of money SINGH BARNALA): Who said that? in terms of foreign exchange because AN HON. MEMBER: Mr. Surya- a number of cash crops like pepper, narayana. cardamom, rubber and tea that are grown there have been completely DR. HENRY AUSTIN: It is impor- damaged. tant that we should acquire certain I would now like to suggest some modern equipments of the above men- measures we should take to meet the tioned type and fit them all along the situation in future. Dr. Karan Singh coast, particularly in Machilipatnam has made certain proposals. I would on the Caromondal coast. like to endorse them and add a lew In advanced countries, they also more. It is imperative that instead of keep what you call, a reconnaissance always going in for short-term mea- plane. These planes always remain sures, we think in terms of long-term on the coastal regions. They detect measures. My first suggestion in this these disasters and pass on this in- regard is to form a National Calamity formation to the meteorological re- Prevention and Mitigation Board. gional centres for computer forecast. We have been seeing these natural Some of these arrangements are al- disasters for the last several centuries. ready there, but they are perhaps in As a matter of fact the entire Caro- a rudimentary stage. We have got to mondal coast is cyclone-prone. If you pump in a lot of money and make it trace the history of the last 500 years, up-to-date so that we could do some- you will find that it has recurred all thing about this recurring pheno-7 along. When I was going through menon. some papers about it, 1 found that m In my own constituency, we have the early 19th Century an entire about 12,000 people now evacuated French fleet which was beseiging Mad- from coastal areas and most of them ras against the English was destroyed are poor fishermen, agricultural wor- by the cyclone. Even in the European kers and others. They are being lodg- records, they have recorded about ihe ed in schools and other government, appearance of cyclone on the East buildings. Now, we should think in Coast of India. It is important that terms of constructing permanent RCC we take care of this situation on this shelters all along the coastal region entire East Coast where cyclones are and other storm prone areas so that we recurring every now and then. could accommodate these people. On A Natural Calamity Mitigation Board other occasions, they could be utilized should be constituted. It is important for other public purposes. Now the edu- that we should associate not only the cational institutions are closed all along Central Government and the State the coastal region. We should go in Governments but also the voluntary for permanent shelters to be construc- associations on this Board. Additional ted all along these areas. radar facilities are to be installed on I suggest that immediate steps the coastal region, particularly on the should be taken to start anti-sea ero- East coast The science of meteoro- sion work. I had raised this matter logy has acquired new sophistications several times in the Fifth Lok Sabha in recent years. The World Weather and the Government was good enough Watchman Programme or the World to depute Dr. Rao, the then Minister. Meteorological Organisation has deve- He has submitted a report to the Cen- loped sophisticated equipments to tral Government in which he has said detect and track cyclones. Mr. Kalya- that if we invest Rs. 40 crores thf*n r^mdaram has earlier pointed that the entire vulnerable section on coas- there are scientific ways to even break tal belt of Kerala could be protected 3G5 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 366 Southern States (Ms.) from sea erosion. This amount is not preventing sea-erosion, that is, by much when compared to the loss lh*it growing a particular kind of tree alon^ we sustain every year from these sea the coastal belt—I think it is man- erosions. grove—whose roots take firm hold on the sea-coast. That is the Japanese In the Quilon area, there are huge method of preventing soil—and sea- accumulations of rare earths like erosion. That method should be tried ilmenite, monosite, rutile and sircon. here. These are varieties of rare earths which are used for atomic energy. In I think, I have taken too much time. fact, in my childhood, I had found hills Our sympathies go out to the people of these rare earths along the coast. of Andhra Pradesh where the greatest Today, most of them have been wash- human tragedy has been caused by ed away by sea erosion. If we had the tidal waves. The Government of only protected these rare earth, the Andhra Pradesh are doing their best nation would have become richer. In to alleviate the sufferings of the peo- terms of present calculation, it is ple. As pointed out by Dr. Karan worth about Rs. 3-4,000 crores. If you Singh, in the best traditions of the compare it with the huge loss that we Congress, our Party has also plunged are incurring every year by sea ero- our heart and soul into the relief and son, the cost of remedial measures rehabilitation work. In Tamil Nadu would be negligible. Therefore there also, the Government have done well. should be sea walls constructed in Some voluntary organisations also areas, vulnerable to sea erosion. have done good work there. Otherwise, erttire Kerala would be I would be failing in my duty if I lost. You know the myth about failed to mention a word about Lacca- Kerala. The myth was that Kerala dives, our neighbour and also Pondi- was formed by Lord Parusrama throw- cherry. In neither of these Resolu- ing an axe into the sea. In other tions, mention has been made about words, it has come out of the ?ea. Laccadives, which is my neighbour— Now. the Sea God will take it back if separated onlv by sea-water. Terrific it is not protected. The State itself destruction has been caused there will be lost if we cannot find Rs. 40 and also in Pondicherry. Our sym- crores to construct sea walls. That is pathies go out to the people there. 1 another problem. Kerala is a land of am sorry, the hon. Minister has not coconut trees. Each coconut tree costs visited Kerala. Madras. Pondicherry about Rs. 300. About 10,000 coconut and Lakshadive. I hope, he will make trees have fallen all along the coast a Dersonal visit to those places and during the disaster last month. The make an on-the-spot study. name of ‘Kerala* itself originated from the \rord lKerum9 that is coconut I am sure, this discussion will have trees. Keral means land of coconut highlighted the concern, anxiety and trees. If all the coconut trees are al- anguish of the people of this country— lowed to fall 'like this, the name not only of this country but of the Kerala itself will have to be changed. whole world—on the problem and that it will do some good to alleviate the I want to make yet another sug- sufferings of the people affected by gestion. There should be drainage the cyclonic storm and also to make channels from the coastal region • the Government take long-term mea- the back-water or to the rivers in the sures if nossible to prevent and check- interior, so that when there are tidal mate these disasters. wavps. w»t«»r po uM he canalised and vfcar tfVo Tfw*rr (****- ♦brown into the back-water or the interior rivers. HTfw-Mr?, st f et jjftr One more suggestion. In Japan they have developed a technology for vmfri srrf 367 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 368 Southern States (Ms.) (yfadV *rff?*TT *fro TPT^FT] •UMl ^TTfcft f I ^ qft *11 ^TTfcft ^ f% qf^- ?rrr % ^r ^sft ?rnr ^nft ^r SW eft ft wit ^ft, ^RTt % ^ ff % m ^^ft ft am™ 1 vtf *ft 3ft qr ferfV (« ttor) . . w?r**rf | 1 frf^r ff 3ffT q^T ^%?TT ftr ^ fw fTTT^ ^rpq % tft STT^t ^Tft «T^T | l eft m ^ ft f^ t • ^ ♦IHN'iVM W»T% % *nfr, ^rcft % f^t ^fT %to " *rrir fm #27TT % I ti ^ 1 I *nnqftr ’Tft^r, *rf *ptftt scrft *ft • «rff?«n qto Thrnr : fS | ft? sft ^ % f%cr 5^ WT % wftRT W7t 5T¥7xT ^Tft | I f^T ?Tff fl%*ft, sn*r fmxr TT^W ^f^rr %ftrcr ^rpr ?rft f 1 +t1oH ^—^<1 ^9HT fa?T «FT +iiH Midi % s^f*t*MT % ftrcr f^r ^fT srnr *rm, etar 3f nn ft | i qr ^ wti f1 ?htt % triwi ^rf^#?Tf ^^^ftff%^^r strait % qifirfbRT vt ^ ^TRT I, eft rET ft*ft eRf ¥tf Ttftrfew m?ft ^r qf?r wR^ft ^Tff^ I W& f*TT^ 3To spur faf ^ft *t 9ft îff^ < ;3ft ^^fr^ftftr^ jrf«TT | ft ?PR *T ^tf TffafeTO f^T f^r t| t, ?nqr ^t ^rt t^ t | eft ?TR ft ¥t T Wfi | I ^ I fÛ, I ^Tf *1 il ^JfTT ^ I fTTT^ % mw* ^ TTcfr iftfe*r wmfo ^Tft^T, f?T f ft> ^fT *ft, ^TfT VTPT W>t ^ZZ 3?t TT^T ^ft^T^ ^ qr ^ft prr ^rf qfwr sft tt^ -tt-ott^ o f, srri «fM ^fft ^ I xiH w>t «T>^% f^TT 3fT ^FfT ft> f*T ^ if Id wnz ^rfftr ?ftr ^tf ^ft *T^T- %ftR f*TT^ ^ffai ^f^ | ft? ^ft fv^^lft ^t ?Tft ^3T f *rrft ^ftq ^Tft ^r fri =ricTt ^ 1 ^ft% *rf ^T^ft I ^Tf^riT ÎqHîd Vt *ft ^5fT ^ ft> effa. ^TTT ft^ff eT^> ^hft % q^TT ^*TT ^FT ^TT 1>^1I trt +l{ Mg*qi ?rft ^ 15ft ?T^> ^*T Vt TT^fT^ tftWT I % 17.38 hrs. WTZ ^PT ^Ft TT^T ftfHT fftr T^» ^T cft^T [Dr. Sushil a Nayah in the Chair] fiwfwTf % f^T | mf rfr ^ff% ^RT 4NHîd ?Tf ?F|nt ft? ?FfT t%f%5T^^T t ^Tft#«ftoT ^ft f^rr^ qnrTÛ ^fTT »Tft eft 369 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 37c Southern States (Ms.) ^ *TfT ^3»T % tWM ^*TT ^l^nt g ft »Tft ^t ^ *ft sftr 3 f 3 f ^ fa 1 962 % ^ft ^ *TT U TO ^R^»R ^Ft if^t ^T ^TT^Tff^ I dtefl 4^1 *HTO f*CT?3 «n I nr % ^ Sr 200, 300 nr % ^trt ^rr w r t rfr ^ f ^f . ^g^ft fa ^rts w n *k+k % ^trt fa^rr ^ i ^T % f%Ttr ^TPT ^5RT ^ft ?nft ^ 13 HTW 3 f nT ^t ^TRT ^R Tft ^ «TT% differ | q f €fa | fa ^ ^tw it ^t +t^ *ifl ^ 1 w.vt-^jprT ^R% m f e f H «rm | 1 tot ?pr *r^r 'T^T ^ ^fan TK HTcT ^T^ft % % MTfl ^ eft 5T«T d + 1 3 *f ^ft ^HWt ?nft % WT^T ^RT 3 fSTR, 4 f5TR + h S nr n r s r m ?, ^ft ^Rf % vfprf % fat* ^nft ffr qi^ri ^ 1 v r f a t nr % %c^ $?r ^fd¥ € t ^ f S T C 3Ft IftRTd" *t *Tf q^TT ST^ST 5T^9T, ^T nrSTTR- W TT TfÎT I 5TT? crftr^r ’Tî srtr %r^r ^t $ ^tt ^Tff^ i oTft ^ tf ^TT% % fatr OTR f I '3»T % ftrtr ^TftflTtT^ft q^TT 14-| cfi t ^R^TT ft^TT I eft t TO wwti I I f^RT^rTT ? Jiqrjiiicr nr wnv «Ft *\%f ^ < ^fTT 5Tf ^ fa ^RT ^ ^T % fint ^ 1 ^ t n r ferret ?rnff % t r t ^ft apt fa^ ?Rt m n & t t % ^ r n r 2,^^t ^ ît %% wrff^t ^rfa i sprf’ ^rr ^r - *rc +0i ft *rk wi«w SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN (Ma- ^>rgt g sftr ^ i^cTl g far ^TT $ durai): Village elders? i^CTH ^nr SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Yes, village ^ i elders. # srk ^rr g i The population was moved to strong buildings and high locations. Only «TT'5ft About the standing crops, nothing SHRI P. M. SAYEED: A sum of to say- No standing crops is there Rs. 2 lakhs has been sanctioned by and everything is gone and no crops the Government and a sum of will grow for years because the entire Rs. 50,000 has been given from the Island was under 4 feet of sea Prime Minister’s Relief Fund. This water. I aid is very insignificant to meet the devastation caused there. Two-thirds of the cattle perished. Out of 1400 goats only 200 have sur- The economy of the island depends vived. Out of 6000 poutry birds, only entirely on the income from coconut 1000 birds are left and in the southern and fishing. The coconut trees have part of this island, there is no drink- been totally destroyed. Fishing boats ing water available and whatever is have been totally destroyed and fish- available, because of the sea water, is ing country-boats have also been des- salinated. As a result people are troyed. Standing crops are already getting stomach ailments. gone and the houses in Kalpini and the strong buildings over there are no more. How are you going to rehabi- So, this is the type of devastation litate them? that has been caused in Kalpeni. I would like to place a few sugges- Lakshadweep is a tiny, small island tions because the Government: away from the capital. Perhaps the farthest portion of our country is Free rations at least for a year Lakshadweep and our tragedy is also should by given to Kalpini island. the greatest because due to the immense havoc that has been caused in Epidemic is spreading. Medical the eastern region—when there is team of doctors, etc., should be sent murder, dacoity and theft, of course, from the mainland. only for murder one is charged—so also due to the gravity of the situa- The soil scientists must be sent be- tion which was there in Andhra, Tami] cause the coconut trees have been Nadu, Kerala and other places, we are completely destroyed. Unless scien- rather forgotten. The Prime Minister tists go and test whether the soil is fit and other Ministers of the Central for replanting the coconut, I think it Government are rushing aid. Even will be futile on the part of the far- the Government appointed team has mers to plant them again. gone only to these regions except Lakshadweep. I have a reason to say The seedlings and other seeds and that we are far away, we are very also fertilizers must be made available small, and therefore, perhaps, we are free to the farmers. taken lesser care of. I would like the hon. Minister to enlighten the House Coconuts as well as flshkig are the at least in this late hour whether any two sources of income of the people hon. Member from the Council of of Lakshadweep. In Lakshadweep— Ministers or anybody from the Gov- ten out of twenty islands are inhabit- ernment of India or anybody is going ed. Kalpini is the 5th largest island. to visit Lakshadweep so that the All the fishing boats have been des- people of Lakshadweep should not be troyed. under the impression that they have been forgotten because they are far I request the Goverment to see that away. fishing boats are made available to the Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 376 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri P. M. Sayeed] will take note of them and given them a proper consideration So that the fishermen so that they will be in a posi- sufferings of thousands of people may tion to earn their livelihood. They get minimised by giving such an im- should not only be supplied with mediate relief. grains but also the biuilding materials like the timber, cement, tiles, SHRI K. RAGHURAMAIAH (Gun- asbsstos and also some money in order tur): Madam Chairman, already much to enable them to re-build their has been said about the damage done houses. They have lost everything. in Andhra and other parts of the Though they have survived due to country by the terrific cylone. I do cyclones yet they are left with nothing not think I can draw on a more gra- to live. That is the condition that is phic picture except by saying that so prevailing there. far as Andhra is concerned, there are two areas one where the people are Therefore, I would request the Gov- dead and two where the people are ernment to consider the suggestions nearly dead. I include in the latter that I have made. Another point category of people those who have lost which I would like to highlight everything, their homes, their hearts is this. The islanders, especially, the their fields, their crops and everything. Kalpini islanders who are highly edu- Paddy crop is gone, chilly crop is gone, cated and who are in the Laccadive turmeric is gone, cotton is gone, bana- groups of island must be given pre.- na is gone, tobacco crop is gone, coco- ferer.ice over others in the matter of nut is gone palmirah is gone. It is employment both in the island ad- just a total destruction. What is more ministration as well as in the main- gruesome is that this is not the first land. year that this thing has happened. I am sure many of the peasants who have I would request the Government to got the necessary courage would have see that some circular or some ins- withstood this natural calamity body truction goes to the other State Gov- had it not for the fact that this is the ernment whether these unfortunate second year in succession that the people could given some preference cyclone has hit them. In fact, in over others to get employment. some parts, this is the third year in succession where we they have lost Finally the most important thing is the crops. In the first year, due to pest this. Whenever such cyclones take they lost the crop. In the second year, place causing such a tragedy, what there was a similar cyclone and the solution have we got? This is a na- crops were damaged. I talked to the tional calamity. So, for this purpose, peasants when I went to my constitu- I suggest that there must be a per- ency, Guntur—all the hon. Members manent fund to be utilised for the who went that side also must have people affected as a relief and the visited that—and I had no courage to public, organisations, State Govern- face them because they were full of ments and the Central Government may offer or contribute to that per- tears. When I talked to them, they manent fund so that whenever such a said that on the 18th evening when they calamity overtakes the country, from had gone there to the fields, every- such funds, financial assistance can be made available without any hesi- thing was all right, there were won- tation or without immediate difficulty. derful crops in the fields and they enjoyed that sight much. But, the Therefore, I request that the hon. very next day for the second year in Minister, while replying, will say succession, the cyclone destroyed something with regard to the suggestions that I have made. I hope he everything. 377 Cyclones x m d AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 3-3 Southern States (Ms.) 18 hrs. found to give them livelihood. Govern- ment must help to remove the silt and I do not think there can be more the sand from the lands. No peasant gruesome human suffering than this. can be expected to do it as their ten That is why many of them did not years’ income may not be enough for know what to do. So, it is not a this. question of the State Government cr the Central Government but, I think that both the Governments must pool As regards those who come from the their resources together and show other part of the area where human them a way out. I have seen those life has not been so much lost but who have lost everything and they do property is lost, I have a few sugges- not have the wherewithal to pay even tions to make. How do you êt the the labour. They have mortgaged economy going for a peasant uho has everything. Ninety-five per cent of mortgaged everything over a period of the Andhra peasants have mortgaged three years?. The banks must have their everything as they have suffered imagination. They must have a cycl- for three years in succession. 1 nic imagination and not the potty Jog- wholly endorse the suggestion made by ging accounting type of imagination. the hon’ble Member that there must I was told that last year after the be a national crop insurance scheme. cyclone the peasants were given the I do not know why we could not think money but they were asked to pay of it earlier. No Government can interest on that every three months. compensate a peasant. It can only be How can a peasant pay interest every through a national insurance scheme. three months? It is just a fraud. This Can’t this country take up such an is not a business. It shows lack of insurance? I hope the Central and imagination on the part of the banK the State Governments will give seri- operators. They must realise that a ous thought to it. A cyclone may De peasant can only pay once a year. 1 a rare phenomenon but there are also would appeal that Tor God’s sake floods and droughts. There must be write-off the interest. The State Gov- a national thinking on it. It is no ernment should also write off the reve- use to have a debate arid then forget nue cess Collection. about it. I plead once again that there must be a serious thinking about SOME HON’BLE MEMBERS: It has national crop insurance scheme to been done. cover the crops as well as the cattle SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAIAH: They which are so fundamental to the economic existence of the rural folk of have not done it in all places. In this country which is the basis of our Sattanapalli taluk, I have been told economy. that it has not been done. I am bringing this to the notice of the Govern- ‘There is a huge loss of life. Ten ment. They have been contributing thousand is a modest number. Thou- to your coffers for so many years. If sands of people from other areas mi- there are any dues, write them off in grate to these places for employment the case of those areas affected by during this period of the year. All ol cyclone and do not collect them. They them are washed away. So, I am sure cannot give any fresh security. There- the final figure about the loss of human fore, please write off the loans also life will be double or treble. Of or reschedule the loans so that they course, some money is being provided may pay after 6 or 7 years. Please but I wholly endorse the idea of orp- give fresh loans. I have seen myseJf hanages. Orphanages must be built for that in Guntur district there is not a the little childem who have lost their single roof left except the cement every body. Then for the old men roofs. The roofs of cinema houses and women who have lost their sons had been blown off, the roofs of go. and daughters some way must be downs and factories had been blown 379 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 38c Southern States (Ms.) [Shri R. Raghu Ramaiah] authorities to take note of it, but apart from that, the Tamil Nadu Govern- off, the roofs of high schools had been ment has got the credit in the matter blown off and the roofs of tobacco of relief measures. But the Andhra bams had been blown, off. The pea- Government could not reach the relief sants growing cotton and tabacco in- measures to the affected areas because vest Rs. 3000 per acre every year and of its bad management. So, we need they have invested for three years on not deal with this question. the cotton and tobacco growing lands. Now they have lost Rs. 9000 each per SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN (Tiruo- acre. And there are people with on© pattur): Let him say where kerosene acre and two acres of land. ‘Hiey are has not been supplied. poor people. How will it be possible for them to recultivate their lands? SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: In The Government should instruct the and around Nagapattinam and in some banks to write off the loans still pend- other places. Though I do not want to ing or reschedule the loans after 6 or belittle the efforts of the Tamil Nadu 7 years. Now, they should give them Government, I wish to point out that fresh loans. Not only that. In the the Tamil Nadu Government has got case of land which have been silted much credit because the Andhra Gov- by sand and salt water, the Govern- ernment provided a comparison. ment should come forward in a big way to help them. The Government should MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Ananthan, give them subsidy. I am glad that the will you please move forward and Tobacco Board has already come for- speak so that the reporters may be ward with a suggestion. I think, pro- able to hear you? Now, I might men- bably, this is under the consideration tion that it is now 6.10. We have to of the Central Government. I think finish the general discussion by 6.30 they will consider that and ensure that p.m. It means that we are1 just left these tobacco growers are given sub- with twenty minutes. 1 have still ten sidy in order to enable them to con- persons on my list. So, Members will struct their bams. As one of my have to think whether they want to friends here remarks, peasnats are not take less time. Even then the list can- beggars coming to you with folded not be fiinished. I request the hon. hands. They have the pride. It is Member to be as brief as possible and your duty to see that their pride is not to repeat what others have already maintained because their pride is your said. pride and the pride of the nation. Their sorrow is your sorrow and the SHRI PURNA SINHA (Tezpur): Please extend the discussion till to- nation’s sorrow. morrow. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN (Na- MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry it can- gercoil): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will con- not be done, it has to be fininshed at 7 fine myself to the cyclone-hit aeas in O' clock today. At 6- 30 I am going to Andhra Pradesh and its consequences call the hon. Minister to reply. thereafter. Before that I will say a few words about Tamil Nadu. Sir, Mr. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: It Arunachalam had narrated in detail seems that the Army authorities talked the action taken by the Tamil Nadu to the Chief Secretary of Andhra Pra- Government. I do not want to repeat desh 48 hours before the cyclone and the same. But I want to point out again 24 hours before the cyclone. The that some responsible persons have stock reply of the Chief Secretary was: come out with complaints saying that “we have sufficient men and material kefosene and rice had not been suppli- and machinery to tackle any situation.” ed to all the people regularly and in Do the Members of that side think sufficient quantity in some parts of the that it was a proper response and pro- affected areas. I want the concerned per reply from the Chief Secretary of 381 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 382 Southern States (Ms.) ^ a State? The army was standing constituency, part of which is in ready with storm boats and wireless Madurai district. That is one of the sets but was not asked to help. The worst drought stricken areas and when services of the Army were requisitioned I was campaigning for the elections only after four days of the occurrence in the early part of the year, people and that too for disposal of the dead were saying that there should be some bodies. method of solving their problem of drinking water, leave alone water being available for cultivation. In The hon. Member said that 90,000 that area there was unprecedented sarees were distributed and I ask: flood. Warning was given that flood when? When we were there on the was coming in a particular river. spot on the 25th, that is the sixth day As a matter of fact, I would call it a of the occurrence we saw so many stream. But people ridiculed it human bodies and among the bodies, a because they have never seen any woman was loitering. When question- ed, she replied that she was in search floods or stream coming like that. Therefore, they refused to move. But of a cloth for her. That was the posi- unfortunately the floods did come and tion of the affected people. I want to wash away the villages. When I went ask one or two questions. When did the Chief Minister visit the affected there, in many villages, there was not even a trace of any house. Even the area? When was the Cabinet meeting big stones forming part of the build- convened? What are the reasons attri- ings had been washed away. That was buted by the Ministers who left the Government for their resignations? the sort of calamity that had happened ___(Interruptions) there. When I went round the whole area, I found that instead of being a drought sticken area it was like a del- MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not ta area. Therefore, this was unexpec** interrupt him; there is hardly any ed and people were not accustomed time. to see water of that magnitude. That is why they were taken unawares and SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Peo- inspite of this, I congratulate the ple who live in the areas which are State Government for having taken prone to cyclone must be educated all necessary measures for providing about the gravity and immensity and immediate relief to the affected peo- the imminent danger in the case of ple and the people were happy with and advent of cyclone and the trans- the relief measures provided by the port department must issue instruc- State Government. Not only in my tions to the buses what to do when Constituency, but also in the adjoin- they are asked to evacuate people. ing district Tiruchi and then Tanjore also, there has been a good deal of The magnitude and devasation and damage caused by cyclone and floods. loss of life is immeasurable. Mother A mention was made about Tiruchi sea who gave livelihood to thousands city and the five colleges there have of people has given birth to a bad been damaged and it would not be child, a cyclone. The date of birth of possible for them to restart these col- the cyclone was 19th November and leges unless their laboratories are res- it devasted vast areas in our country tored and their libraries are rebuilt. in Andhra and elsewhere. That also Therefore, what is more important now happens tQ be the birth date of Mrs. is, while we have taken immediate Indira Gandhi, who devastated demo- relief measures, what sort of rehabili- cracy in this country. tation measures we are going to take, what sort of reconstruction and re- SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM (Palani): clamation programmes we have got to Madam Chairman, there was devasa- take. That is the most important tion on an unprecedented scale in my thing. As far as these colleges are 383 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 384 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri C. Subramaniam] the Finance Commission officials showing to me the report and saying—these concerned, we should not look for pre- are the recommendations. And in this cedents ior giving grants of the order of House I declared that I cannot show to Bs. 1.5 crores. Unless we give them the the people the Finance Commission’s necessary financial help, they would Report and say ‘See the Report, and be not be able to function effectively and satisfied with that’. Therefore, when thousands of children, boys and girls it is an unprecedented calamity you would be affected in their educational cannot have a precedent for that, pre- career. And in the same way we cedent with regard to the scale of have to rebuild many of the huts and assistance and the mode of assistance pucca houses. Then there is the ques- also. Therefore, my suggestion to the tion of reclamation of land. This is Finance Minister is—he is not here where the Agriculture Ministry has to but, I am sure the Agriculture Minis- take a big; hand, particularly in the ter will convey it to his Finance col- matter of reclamation of land. Where league—that as far as the immediate it is affected by tidal waves, not only relief measures are concerned, which silting would have taken place, but have been undertaken, perhaps, the the land would have become saline Finance Commission’s formula could and therefore it would not be possible be applied. Because of the magnitude to undertake cultivation. Therefore, I of the problem, no State government would like to make a suggestion to will be able to meet the financial re- the hon. Agriculture Minister that a quirements as far as reclamation; re- team of scientists consisting of soil construction and rehabilitation are engineers, soil scientists and even crop concerned. Therefore, you should specialists should visit these areas and have a separate formula now for then chalk out a plan of action not meeting these requirements. I have 'only for reclamation but also the no doubt that it should be possible to pending reclamation, whether any sort find a solution. All these things can- of crop can be grown and what sort of not be given as grants to the States. crop can be grown and for that all In some cases perhaps you may have necessary assistance will have to be to give it as loan assistance. The given. loans also should be of three categories for putting up buildings and reclamation also. Firstly, where the As far as reclamation is concerned, man is poor and has no resources I do not think, it should be left left, it should be an interest-free loan individual initiative. It would be im- with a moratorium for two or three possible because it would be of such a years. Then it should be recovered in magnitude and it should be on the a period of 7 or 8 years. Secondly, basis of Whole villages and whole in some cases the loan may be given at areas. Therefore this should be the a concessional rate of interest. Thirdly, responsibility of the Government to there may be some people who may undertake this reclamation scheme. have resources but still they may not have the immediate financial resources Now since the time is short, I would to meet their needs. They should be like to make some practical sugges- given loans at the normal rate of in- tions with regard to the finding of the terest. All these categories of loans resources for meeting the expenditure should not be short-term loans. We of this magnitude. I know the Finance should take into account the nature Commission’s Reports. But certainly, of reclamation and how soon they I cannot show the Report to the people would be able to get into the normal and say to the people ‘here is the re- strides of life. Their debts should be port, I am not in a position to do scheduled in such a way that it will anything’. I d0 remember occasions, be possible for them to repay and when I was the Finance Minister, survive. People should not just live 385 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Flood* in 386 Southern States (Ms.) and work only for the repayment of I do not want to take much time. I the loans and perish in that process. request the government to provide I know in cases like these, wastages relief in the following ways to the and sometimes frauds also may occur. tidal wave and cyclone hit people. Therefore, it should be properly The first important task is to bale out planned. There should be common the sea water from the drinking watei teams consisting of officials from the wells and tanks and also ensure that Central and State Governments, who adequate fresh water sprouts up. should sit together and formulate Water is everywhere, but there is no plans as quickly as possible, If it is drop of water to drink. That is the left to bureaucratic methods, it will fate of the area there. The water due take months and years and we cannot to the tidal wave spread nearly 10 wait that long. These teams should miles from the sea and the ground make the assessments and also find out was all covered by sea water and salt. what would be the order of financial It will take another ten years or even requirements for these purposes, how more time to make the land cultiv- much should be grants, how much able to get crop there. should be loans free of interest, how much should be loans at concessional Another thing is to undertake a rate of interest, etc. Therefore, apart massive programme to desalinate from the relief works, rehabilitation, those lands flooded by sea water and reconstruction and reclamation work immediate medical relief by sending also should be taken up. There, special medical teams. finance should not stand in the way, as promised by the Prime Minister. Another step, as suggested by our But it should be properly planned. Rashtrapathi, is to grant loans to Money alone would not do. Money those who had lost their houses for properly utilised alone would be able constructing houses. I would also to bring a new life to the people. Now request the Government to think in that we have given vent to our politi- terms of building permanent struc- cal feelings. I hope and trust that tures in the affected coastal areas so there will be a truce on that side and that during calamities like this people hereafter there will not "Be any poli- In and around those buildings could ticking in human misery and human take shelter there, as suggested by calamities. our Rashtrapathi, Dr. Sanjiva Reddy. MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Nageswara Another important thing is that the Rao. Only three minutes please. educated youth of the families who have lost their homes and properties, should be immediately provided with SHRI NAGESWARA RAO MEDURI jobs whether they have registered in (Tenali): The worst affected areas in the Employment Exchange or not. Andhra Pradesh are the Tenali consti- They must be given some appoint- tuency, including Divi, Nagayalanka ments if they are fully qualified ac- and Koduri in Krishna district and cording to their qualifications. Apart Repalle taluk in Guntur district. I am from this, loans should be given to sorry not only for my constituency others at differential rate of interest has been severely affected, but I have to buy auto rikshas etc. for earning also been affected here by being given their livelihood. only three minutes time. I came by train today which also arrived 3 1^2 Many of the students who are now hours late. Anyhow, let us not dis- studying in schools and colleges have cuss our differences on the floor of lost their properties and their families the House. The Prime Minister has and are not in a position to continue rightly said that in this hour of need their studies. Relief should be pro- the whole nation stands as one person. vided to such students till such time 387 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 388 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri Nageswara Rao Meduri] occur in Tamil Nadu and Andhra they complete their studies and are in Pradesh next year also—India being a position to stand on their own feet. a monsoon country and South India being surrounded on three sides by All the coastal villages must be the seas it will come any time. What linked with the trunk roads. This is are the concrete steps that the Central essential. This tidal wave and cyc- Government is going to take for the lones occurred not only this year, but next year? I want to know from the as Mr. Raghu Ramaiah pointed out Minister how the Government is going rightly, they occur once in a year or to help the people living near the two years or three years’ At that coastal areas, and how they are going time the All India Radio or the TV to protect them before the cyclone may tell so many things, but it is attacks them. The Minister should highly impossible for the rescue teams indicate the measures he is going to to go to the villages to save the lives take. of the people unless the villages are connected to the trunk roads. In “The Hindu” of Madras, there Another thing is that some of the was a news items last week about a people who have lost* their houses are measure taken in Argentina. There, supposed to be the richest, men and they fired rockets to the hale clouds. they are now standing in queue for The chemicals will be sent, under their daily rations, leave alone the this menthod, to the hale-clouds by coolies etc. If the Government gives the rocket; the hale-clouds will be sufficient loans to agriculturists im- converted into rain-clouds to rain mediately at differential rate of in- into the sea. And the cyclone will terest or in whichever way the Gov- be avoided by this rocket-firing ernment likes, they can go to the fields method. I am drawing the attention and raise a second crop and some of of the Minister to this method. It them can grow crops in their fields may be adopted in India also, to and then the agricultural labour can avoid this kind of a cyclone, whicri be employed immediately. It is a ques- will otherwise cause a great disaster tion of making it a political issue. It to the human lives and cattle. We is a question giving them practi- must urge the United Nations to set cal assistance to tide over their diffi- up an international organization for culties. this purpose. Natural calamities To my bad luck I do not have suffi- occur—and cyclones and droughts occur—throughout the world. Gov- cient time to speak and I thank you for the time you have given to me out ernment of India must take the ini- of sisterly affection. tial steps to form this kind of an organization which will take long- SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN (Tirup- term measures to save human lives— pattur): Madam Chairman, regarding particularly those of poor peasants— the disaster which took place in Tamil and cattle, from natural calamities. Nadu and the measures taken by the This is the most appropriate time to Government there, my friend Mr. appoint a scientific research organi- Arunachalam has spoken in detail. He zation and a commission to do re- has also spoken about how the Central search on how to avoid cyclones. Government is helping in this respect. The meteorological department must The Food Corporation of India released develop fully, to help us in this to Tamil Nadu, 50,000 tonnes of rice. regard. We are wasting money on We also had timely help from the rockets. If you start such an organi- Army Air Force and Navy. We zation, it will help farmers—who thank the Central Government for the constitute 90 per cent of the popula- help rendered to Tamil Nadu. tion in India—and we will be able to Some hon. Members said that may save their lives in future, as also the be a pre-incident but the cyclones will economy of our country. The 389 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in Southern States (Ms.) nation’s wealth will also be saved D.M.K. Government in Tamil Nadu thereby. for rushing to the relief of cyclone victims. I expect d that the Janata •SHRI N. KUDANTHAI RAMA- Party Government at the Central LINGAM (Mayuram): Madam Chair- would not make the suffering of the man, at the very outset I would say people the scape-goat for self-interest. that Cauvery Delta which is known But just because the Andhra Govern- as the granary of Tamil Nadu has ment is being run by the Congress been worst hit by the recent cyclone. Party, I find that the Janata Party My constituency Mayuram forms an Ministers and Members are hurling important part of Thanjavur District abuses at the State Government and which has unfortunately become the are spreading the canard of human principal victim of this virulent corpses having been covered by grass cyclone. As our hon. Prime Minis- so that they would not been seen by ter in his recent statement to this our President. Madam, I wish to state House remarked that the hon. Mem- that the misery of the masses should bers of this House, instead of making not become the manifesto of any speeches here, should have been in political party. I deprecate the in- the affected places sharing the suffer- sistence of F.C.I. for advance deposit ing of the people in their hour of of Rs. 7.5 crores before 50000 tons of agony, i*i fact, I had spent ten days foodgrains are sent to Tamil Nadu. in the midst of misery, touring the cyclone-ravaged areas in Tanjore District. Coming now to the question of steps that the Government should take to alleviate the agony of the people I Last year Tanjore district was un- would !ike to emphasise the emer- der acute drought and the crops gent necessity of associating the withered away for want of water. Central Public Undertakings like the This year all the standing crops have National Textile Corporation, National been washed away in swirling flood Buildings Corporation, the I.D.P.L waters. The people of Tamil Nadu and such other public utility indus- are predominantly agriculturists and trial units in the massive relief work in particular the agriculturists of to be undertaken with minimum of Tanjore District this year have lost delay. Coarse cloth from 103 Textile their plantain crop, coconut groves, Mills being run by the N.T.C., cheap rice crop, their betel leaves etc. Many building materials and technical lakhs of agricultural labour have lost advice for constructing houses with their livelihood. Some lakhs of people the barest minimum investment from have lost their abodes of living. N.B.C., maximum quantity of medicine Thousands of cattle-heads have been lost and their carcasses are strewn all from I.D.PX. so that the afflicted over. The builders of the nation—the people get immediate medical atten- agriculturists, the weavers, the fisher- tion must be organised by the concern- men other artisans—have been battered Ministeries of the Government of ed. The cyclone destruction defies India. The nationalised Banks must description. The sight of breached come to the rescue of the people in bunds and damaged dams in Tamil distress with interest-free loans for Nadu is awesome. Many lakh acres of the purpose of immediate rehabilita- fertile land have become fallow over- tion. The agricultural labour must night, with sand-castings and salt- be given unemployment subsidy till deposits. the land is made ready for cultivation; otherwise they will become living Though I belong to the Congress corpses. Besides these short-term Party, I have no hesitation in paying measures, I would like to suggest that my tributes to the All India Anna the Government of India must think •The original speech was delivered in Tamil. 391 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 392 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri N. Kudanthai Ramalingam] know whether you are going to ex- of implementing a long-term scheme punge whatever he has said. of Canal and Drainage system, like that of Tennessey Valley system in SHRI R. VENKATARAMAN the U.S.A., in Cauvery Delta so that (Madras South): Can a Member the people are saved from recurring bring a tape-recorder inside the wrath of Mother Nature. House? Are you going to allow it? The Tamil Nadu Government has MR CHAIRMAN: I have heard envisaged a massive investment of everybody. Now, the ruling is that Rs. 200 crores for rejuvenating the Members cannot bring their tapere- shattered economy of Tamil Nadu. I corders in the House. Now, the urge upon the Central Government Minister. that out of this a sum of Rs. 100 crores SHRI K. GOPAL: You have not must be given as assistance without replied to my point of order. strings to Tamil Nadu. The tradition of the people of our country is to for- If a Member speaks without your get all differences at the time of permission can that be recorded? natural calamities and I hope that the Central Government should rise to MR. CHAIRMAN: With regard to the occasion and come to the succour that the Speaker has given the ruling of the suffering millions in the yesterday and he said that when the Southern States, without trying to Speaker did not allow a person to make political capital out of this speak, it should not be recorded. national calamity. Now, the hon. Minister. MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, the hon. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- Minister. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHIÎ SHRI PURNA SINHA (Tezpur): SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): The Some Members have returned last Government of India shares the night. Will you kindly allow one of anxiety shown by the hon. Members them to speak? while discussing the motion on the damage and devastation done by the MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry. cyclone in the southern States. At the very outset, I may assure the ( ♦Not recorded. 393 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in Southern States (Ms.) 394 cyclone from 17th onwards. He goes entering into any political con- on to say: troversy, I would like to make a few observations. “Thfe definite warning both in regard to its direction and intensity I had made a statement in the was received on the 18th by 11.30 House on the 1st December and given p .m . The concerned officer in some details of the damage and deva- General Administration Depart- station caused. I need not add any- ment immediately contacted all the thing more to that statement though collectors along the coast from I have received some more informa- Nellore to Srikakulam. They were tion because I am receiving it every told that the expected cyclone was day and almost twice a day from all going to be of the most devasting the States regarding the latest figures. kitid accompanied by gale, rain At that time, I had mentioned that two and even tidal waves and might hit Central Teams have been sent to the coast anywhere between Nellore Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu. and Machchlipatnam___” The two teams returned on the 2nd December. Their reports were available on the 4th. Immediately there- Also, regarding the precautions to after, that is, on the 5th, a meeting be taken, the collectors were inform- of the high level committee was con- ed that they should close educational vened to consider the assistance to be institutions, not allow grazing of provided to the States concerned. A cattle or fishing in the seas, closing central team is proceeding to Kerala of vehicular traffic and similar other tomorrow and its report should be precautionary steps to be taken. They available in the course of next few were also specifically told that the days. After the meeting of the high army was standing by and would be level committee of yesterday, I met ready to help. It goes on like that. the Finance Minister today, this morning, and had discussions with him So, a definite information, a positive regarding the aid. I am happy to be information, was received by about able to inform the House that the the mid-night on the 18th and the Government of India have decided fo warnings had been given. But, un- assist the Government of Andhra fortunately, it appears specific warn- Pradesh up to a ceiling of Rs. 75.13 ing regarding evacuation was not crores and the Government of Tamil given. I do not know why the Nadu upto a ceiling of Rs. 33.91 authorities did not think it proper to crores. give that warning also because that The break-up of the above figures was one of the essential warning that should have been given at that time. is as follows: I do not blame anybody for that. Resettlement of people rendered There might be a lapse on the part of homeless in Andhra Pradesh—Rs. 6 somebody. But the only thing is that crores; rehabilitation of animal hus- it was not done. Otherwise, possibly, bandry—Rs. 2 crores; gratuitous some more number of people could food relief—Rs. 13.50 crores which have been evacuated from that place comprises of 45,000 tonnes of rice and could have been saved. Without and 45,000 tonnes of wheat. (Rs. in crores) Public health measures 1*00 Orphanages . . . 0*20 Assistance to agriculturists. ... 7 44 Central scheme for community nurseries & tobacco barns 0-31 Assistance to fishermen, artisans etc. . 5*oo Restoration of roads and bridges 10*00 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 395 39« Southern States (Ms.) [Shri Surjit Singh Bamala] (Rs. in crors) Restoration of public buildings ..... 5*oo Restoration of aided schools and other educational institutions *'93 Restoration of irrigation including tidal fymks 6*oo Restoration of electrical installations 10*00 Restoration of drinking water wells .... o*75 Repairs and reconstruction of municipal property damaged i*50 New schemes, link roads ... 0-50 Diranage schemes r 0*50 Repairs of ports and godowns 0-50 Short-term loan 3*oo T o t a l 75-13 Tamil Nadu Foodgrains (ioooo MTs of wheat & ioooo MT of rice) 2*60 Irrigation 5* Roads 5-00 Government buildings 1-50 Panchayat buildings 1 0-50 Ports . . - . 0-30 State Electricity Board and electric installations 3-00 Local bodies 1*25 Assistance to fishermen o*75 Assistance to weavers 0*50 Agriculture 5*34 Medical and health care 1 0-25 Assistance to aided schools & colleges 1*22 Reconstruction of huts .... 4*40 Drainage Board Schemes outside Madras City 0*26 Short-term loan 2*00 T o t a l 33*9* The situation in these areas in con^ have'released 1000 MTs of wheat free tinuously being kept under watch, and of cost to Kerala and propose to rele- if necessary the Central Teams will bs ase a further 1500 MTs of wheat. sent to these areas again. An interim Advance Plan Assis- For Pondicherry, we have sanction- tance of Rs. 2 crores has already been ed an amount of Rs. 10 lakhs as an provided for Kerala. Further assis- interim measure. The Central Team tance will be considered on receipt of have visited Pondicherry and a deci- the report of the Central Team. We sion on the quantum of assistance will Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKLA) Floods in 398 Southern States (Ms.) be taken very soon. They have sub- teams of experts and scientists for mitted a report, but we have not these purposes—for reclamation of taken a decision so far. sand-cast and saline land, salvaging the damaged crops and plantations and DR. HENRY AUSTIN: There is in raising a second crop of paddy. no need for wheat. You should send rice. (Interruptions). The other Ministries are also assis- ting. I would make a mention about that also. The Union Ministry of SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: Health came to the assistance of the An interim assistance of Rs. 2 lakhs State Governments in a big way and has been sanctioned for Lakshdweep. so far more than Rs. 29 lakh worth My colleague, Shrimati Barkataki is of medicines were provided to Andhra visiting Lakshdweep shortly and we Pradesh and more than Rs. 5 lakh will give all the assistance that may worth of medicines to Tamil Nadu. be needed. I have heard with keen The Army Medical Teams are also in interest the Members from that place the field, and with the joint efforts and we will be providing all the ai- made by the State and the Central sistance that is required. Government so far no epidemic has been reported in any of the southern States even though a grave danger has I had earlier mentioned that a cc« been looming because of the carcasses ordinating machinery will be set up and corpses which could not be dis- to take decisions quickly. A meet- posed of for some time. ing of the High Level inter-Ministe- rial Coordinating Committee was con- All the concerned Ministries at the vened yesterday to consider the re- Centre have been making their ut- ports of the two Central Teams and most contribution to help the people other important matters connected in the cyclone-affected areas. with relief and rehabilitation of the people in the South affected by The Ministry of Railways—though a cyclones. small contribution, it is a contribution all the same—has granted conces- It is being proposed to convert all sion of free carriage by passenger and short-term loans given by coopera- goods trains for consignments of relief tives into medium-term loans as also material needed for free distribution to postpone recovery of medium-term in the affected areas of Andhra Pra- and long-term loans. The Reserve Bank desh, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. of India has initiated action and their representative is visiting the cyclone The Ministry of Home Affairs air- affected areas. The Commercial banks lifted a mobile Civil Emergency have already been instructed to aug- Force to Andhra Pradesh equipped ment credit suppsy in these areas to for relief and rescue operations. enable the farmers to start agricultural operations. The Army, the Air Force and the Navy came to the assistance of the affected State Governments through- These are the suggestions which are out. They provided air sorties and now made by the hon. Members. The assisted in deployment of medical Life Insurance Corporation and the teams, rescue of marooned villagers Housing and Urban Development Cor- and restoring communication and poration in the Ministry of Works and water supply system, plugging Housing are being involved to assist bleaches, etc. A control room set up the cyclone-affected people for hous- in my Ministry is monitoring all ing on a massive scale. arrangements in relief operations. This suggestion was also made. We Additional allocations of cement are sending from our Department have been made to Andhra Pradesh Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in 400 Southern States (Ms.) [Shri s urJit Singh Bamala] transcend all political, regional and other considerations in this task and and Tamil Nadu. The Hindustan I am sure that all sections of the Photo Films has agreed to supply House will endorse this view. medical X-ray films worth Rs. 1 lakh each to the Governments of Andhra Before I close this statement, may Pradesh and Tamil Nadu. Apart I appeal to all members of this ■firom the assistance fjiven by the House and through them to the Ministries, their staff are also making whole nation to come forward to individual contributions for the relief assist in the relief and rehabilitation 3f the affected people. of the affected people and also to generate such an atmosphere as I shall be failing in my duty if I would promote relief and rehabilita- did not acknowledge with profound tion operations most effectively in gratitude the offers of assistance in these areas. :ash and kind which have been eceived by us from international SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAIAH: agencies, Governments of friendly What about crop insurance? A countries and voluntary organisations suggestion has been made by many in India and abroad. - The service Members about crop insurance. I being rendered by the Indian Red would like the Minister of Agricul- ~ross has been commendable. While ture to assure us that they will at we have deliberately launched no least study the proposition in con- appeal for international assistance sultation with the State Governments. 1 number of countries including the Let the Minister say something in USA, the Federal Republic of that regard. (Interruptions). Germany, the U.K. Japan, G.D.R., MR. CHAIRMAN: May I suggest Janada. Australia, Pakistan, Bangla- that the clarifications that you indivi- desh, Switzerland, France, the EEC dually want to get may be got from md many others, have come forward the Minister afterwards---- (In- vith spontaneous offers of assistance terruptions). If so many of you talk in cash and kind as a gesture of good- simultaneously, I cannot understand will and international solidarity. anybody: so 'how can the Minister Viany voluntary organisations have be expected to understand? Mr. ilso done the same. We have Raghu Ramaiah, please put your iccepted those offers with gratitude. question again. Dur present assessment is that India las adequate stocks of foodgrains, 19 hrs. nedicines, clothing, etc., to meet the mmediate relief needs of the cyclone SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: victims. It is in the longer term and I will reply to his question... aiore complex task of rehabilitation DR. HENRY AUSTIN: Let me ;hat assistance would be most useful. put my question also so that he may This assistance could take the form answer both together. of fertilisers, pesticides, pre-tebri- cated housing, fishing boats, fishing I would like to know from the lets, etc. We are giving advice along Hon. Minister whether this assistance these lines to those who approach that has been promised is from within 11s while not limiting the discretion the Plan allocations or outside. If af donors if they have strong pre- it is from within the Plan allocation, ference for expressing their sympathy then it will dislocate the entire Plan. in other ways. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Would it The whole nation is in a state of be possible for the Government to jrief and every citizen of this coun- create a permanent national fund to try, I am sure, would like to contri- meet such calamities? bute his best to mitigate the SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: sufferings of our brothers and sis- Now, many questions have been ters in the south. We have to raised. Regarding crop insurance, it 401 Cycvones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 {SAKA) Floods in 402 Southern States (Ms.) is a matter which has to be studied which they might have released m in depth ... a regular way in accordance with the normal norms as set by the Sixth SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAIAH: Finance Commission or the Planning Wiii you study it? Commission itself. But the whole theme of the discussion was that the SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA: cyclone was of an unprecedented A u’.udy had been going on pre- nature. The calamity is 01 a national viously also. We will definitely character and the devastation caused s'tUdy the matter because such by it has got no precedent. There- calamities occur in all parts of the fore, no precedent should really come country one way or the other and in the way or allocation of funds if some solution can be found it will which are required for mitigating the be a good thing. misery and sufferings of the victims. On this account, I am extremely un- Regarding the assistance, most of happy and I would like the Govern- it, excepting the gratuitous relief, is ment of India to reconsider the whole by way of advance Plan assistance, issue in the interest of the nation, in but we will make sure that next the interest of the down-trodden year we study this matter also people. Reconsideration is very much because, this is according to the necessary because of the unprece- Sixth Finance Commission’s recom- dented nature of the calamity. As I mendations. We will have to study said, the issue should be reconsidered in what manner we should make and the assistance announced by the provision for the future. hon. Minister should be outside the Plan allocations. Only then it will Regarding the creation of a national be a real assistance, otherwise it will fund, a proposal had been made ear- be an illusion. We refuse to be sub- lier also. Commissions were set up jected to this illusion and this HGuse, and cyclone distress mitigation com- I am sure, would take that view. mittees were set up in Andhra Pra- desh and Orissa and they submitted their reports and made their recom- SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Madam mendations but recommendation about Chairman, I am really distressed by the fund was rejected by the last Go- the reply of the hon. Minister to the vernment. So, something has to be discussion in this House on this very done about this also. serious matter. We had a very fruitful discussion without bringing in SHRI CHITTA BASU: I arn happy much of a politics which I had feared to know that almost all the Members at one stage. The hon. Members who have taken part in the debate have discussed this issue in a very have said that the issue is of national sober and serious manner. We had a importance and should be viewed fruitful discussion, but the hon. from a national perspective. That is Minister’s reply has only disappointed a very important element and I am us. It was proclaimed by the Go- happy about it. But I am equally vernment and the Prime Minister unhappy when I have to say that himself that this will be treated as a the Hon. Minister, in the course of national disaster and money would his intervention, made a certain an- not stand in the way. But after all nouncement which ultimately proved these pronouncements, I was extre- an elusive one. It is elusive because mely disappointed and amazed to see he has admitted that the entire aid the hon. Minister taking a miserly will be adjusted towards Plan assis- attitude when the question of money tance—and the only other aid or help came. He has abundance of sympathy he wants to give is just that he will for the victims but when it comes to consider, the matter. So, they would practical question of assistance, he only be releasing aid in advance becomes e miser. 403 Cyclones and DECEMBER 6, 1977 Floods in Southern States (Ms.) [Shri P. K. Kodiyan] 12. I will put that amendment to the vote of the House. I would earnestly request the hon. Minister—and I hope he will agree to Amendment No. 1 was put fond that—to turn this sympathy for this negatived. national calamity into practical assistance in the form of outright grant outside the plan allocation. Then MR. CHAIRMAN: Now I will put only it will be a national assistance the main motion to vote. for a national disaster from a na- SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN tional government. (Cannanore): Why put to vote? SHRI C. N. VISWANATHAN: We This is an issue where there is a con- welcome it. sensus in the House. Why should the House be divided? SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: I hope the hon. Minister will do it. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR At the same time, I have also to (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): The point out that I am also a little dis- purpose of the motion was to enable appointed that no central team has the House to have a full discussion been so far despatched to Kerala and and to enable members who wanted the Lakshadweep. to make suggestions and draw the attention of the government to the SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: situation prevailing in these States to It is going tomorrow. do so. Perhaps that purpose has been fulfilled by the debate that has taken SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Tomorrow place. Therefore, I will appeal to the they are going. But what is the use hon. Member not to press his of going there after so many days? motion. What will they inspect? The State Government has already spent more SHRI CHITTA BASU: I have a than Rs. 3 crores from their own re- desire to respond readily to the appeal sources and now you are sending a made by the hon. Minister and I small team of officers there. I was agree to withdraw the motion in anti- extremely pained to know that an cipation that the Government would hon. Minister from the Centre who also reconsider the issues posed by had been to Kerala after getting the the Members of the House in the discussion on railway accidents post- matter of converting this help into a poned on the plea of his visit to grant and afford all necessary help Kerala, did not care to visit the and relief to the cyclone affected affected areas. Only he participated areas. As I said, I express my wish In a party meeting and returned. to withdraw the motion. I seek leave This is not the attitude which is ex- of the house to withdraw my motion. pected from a government which claims that it considers this calamity MR. CHAIRMAN: Does the hon. as a national calamity. Member have the leave of the House to withdraw his motion. I hope and trust that the hon. Min- ister will reconsider the whole issue and announce within the next few SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. days that: all this assistance he has The motion toas, by leavet withdrawn announced today will be treated as an outright grant from the centre. MR. CHAIRMAN: Now I will put MR. CHAIRMAN: There is an the amendment moved by Shri amendment moved by Mr. Kalyana- Kalyanasundaram to the motion at sundaiaim to the motion at serial No. serial No. 13. 405 Cyclones and AGRAHAYANA 15, 1899 (SAKA) Floods in 406 Southern States (Ms.) Amendment No. 1 was put and I hope he will consider and respect niegatived. the unanimous desire expressed from this side for providing special assis- MR. CHAIRMAN: Does Shri Kodi- tance for relief and rehabilitation in the form of outright grant. yan wish to withdraw it? I withdraw the motion. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: I hope even at this last stage the hon. Min- The motion was, by leave, withdrawn. ister would express his sympathy and 19.16 hrs. consider the suggestion in the Resolu- tion to set up an all party machinery The Lok Sabha then adjourned till at the national level to mobilise re- Eleven of the Clock on Wednesday, sources lor the relief and rehabilita- December 7, 1977/Agt GMGlPND—Job If I—2856 L.S. JC 4331—*i 1- 1- 78—900