Eighth Series, Vol. VI, No. 4S lkwrW.v,' May 16, 1985' Vaisakha 26. 1907 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Second Session (Eigbtb Lok Sabba)

(Vol. VI contains Nos. 41 to 48)

LOI: ,SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELIU Price : Rs. 4.00 [Original English proceedings included in English Version and original Hindi proceedings included in Hindi Version will be treated as authoritative and not the translation 'hereof.] CONTENTS

No. 45, Thursday. May 16, 1985/ Vaisalcha 26, 1907 (Stika)

Columns

Oral Answers to Questions : 1-29

·Starred Question Nos. 875 to 880, 882, 884 and 885

Short Notice Question No.2 29-38

Written Answers to Question: 38-235

Starred Questions Nos. 881, 883 and 886 to 894 38-44

Unstarred Question Nos. 6833 to 7026, 7026 ... A, 7026-B, 44-235

7026-C

Papers Laid on the Table 238-245

BiU Introduced- " 238-245 Arms (Amendment) BiU, 1985

Matters under rule 377- 246-251

(0 Need to reopen the Bhaskar Textile Mills, Jharsuguda, Orissa

Shri SribaUav Panigrahi 246

(ii) Need to improve irrigation facilities in drought affccted

districts of Andhra Pradesh and Kamataka

Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy 247

(iii) Need to take stringent steps to ensure safe delivery of

money sent by insured covers through Post Offices 247 Dr. Chandra Sbekhar Tripathi

·Tbe'ian + marked above tbe name of a Member indicates tbat the question actually .,ked on tho floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

Columns (Iv) Need to protect the city of Ban,alore from pollution

Shri S. M. Ouraddi 248

(v) Need to introduce an express train from Tamkur to Banaalore

Shri G. S. Basavaraj 249

(vi) Need to provide Air Service between Varanasi and Bombay via Nagpur

Shri U rna Kant M ishra 250

(vii) Need to Take action against The "Dainik Jagran" for publishing a news-item tending to create unrest and instability in the country Shri Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi 250

(vii i) Need to provide assistance by the Centre to the Government

of Maharashtra for Organising drought relief and providing drinking water facilities

Shri Keshaorao Pardhi 251

Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices (Amendo1ent) Bill 1985-

Mot ion to consider

Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 252

Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 255

Shri Amal Datta 257 Shri lndrajit Gupta 262

Shri Veerendra PatH 268

Consideration of Clause5

Motion to pass

Shri Veerendra Patil 283

Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council (Abolition) BiU- . 283-285

Motion to consider

Clauses 2 to 3

Shri H. at Bharadwaj (iii)

CoJuml'\S Motion to pass

Shri H. R. Bharadwaj 284 Shri C. Madhav Reddi 284 Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy 284 Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 284

Payment of Bonus (Amendment) Bill, 1985 286-325

Motion to consider Shri Ghulam Nabi Azad 286 Shri H. A. Dora 287 Shri Sharad Dighe 289 Shri K. N. Pradhan 292

Shri Ajoy Biswas 295 Sh ri Somna th Ra th 297 Shri Satyendra Narayan Sinha 298

Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 301

Shri Mool Chand Daga 304

Shri R. Annanambi 306

Shri Raj Mangal Pande 309

Shri Indrajit Gupta 312

Shri Abdul Rashid Kabuli '317 Shri T. Anjiah 320

Consideration of Clauses Motion to Pass Shri T. Anjiah

Companies (Amedment) Bill, 1985- 32S-35S

Motion to consider

Shri Veerendra PatH 32S

Sbri C. Madhav Reddi 328 Shri Ram Pyare Panika 330 Sbri Harish Rawat 333,/" .,/' /' Shri Suresb Rurup \ (iv)

Columns

Shri Raj Mansal Pandey 337

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee 339

Shri Salauddin 342 Prof. Madhu Dandavate 344

Prof. N. G. Ranga 350

Death of Member 355-356 LOK SABRA DEBATES

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LOK SABHA SHRI I. RAMA RAJ: Sir, the railways being the cheapest mode of transport, the. demand for more and better railways espe­ cially in the Southern States like Kcrata and Thursday, May 16, 1985!Vaisakha 26, Karnataka is high. There is a strong feeling 1907 (SAKA) that Centre is not giving due sJ1 are to the development of railways in Southern States. The Minister in his reply has stated that a proposal to issue a separate series of Bond~ Lok Sabha met at Eleven 0/ the Clock. for Ministry of Railways by the Central [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] Government has been taken up with the Ministry of Finance. Already the Finance (El1gli.s It] Minister has stated that seJected Publk Sector Corporations especiaJly in high MR. SPEAKER: Shri Rama Rai ••. not priority areas lik.: Power a.nd Telc-com­ present. next Qucsti on ••• Shri Jadeja. municatjons are allowed to float Bonds upto PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, Mr. Rama a designated limit. Paucity of funds is the Rai is present and he is putting his Question. main reason for the stagnation of growth of Railways. In what way the Government i~ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is proposing to meet the shortage of funds and not abr;;ent, but he is absentminded. the high and legitimate demands of our region? ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The [English] Ministry is proposing to meet the shortage of funds by asking for some more allocali{Jn~ Raising uf Capital by Railways for from the Planning Commission and also by De\'elopmental Activities asking permisson of the Finance Ministry to fl0at new Railway Bonds. ·875 SHRJ I. RAMA RAJ : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to SHR I I. RAMA RAl: Peoples fepre" state: sentatives both at the Central and Sate levels have been complaining about the poor con .. (a) whether the Ministry of Railways ditions of Railway stations, coaches, wagons I'ropose to raise capital by issuing bonds etc. Railway lines. etc. in the SOllth. Sir I would to meet the demands of developmental acti· t like to say that due to the high fare and vities; and tariff, Kerala people are compelled to pay (b) if so, the details thereof? exhorbitant alnlost penal revenue to Rail­ ways. Earlier we are told a coach factory THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE also will be given to KeraJa. Now, it looks MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI we are nowhere. I would like to ask the MADHAVRAO SCINIDA): (a) and (b). Hon. Minister what concrete proposal or The Railway Ministry cannot issue Bonds on measures he is loing to take to meet these their own for i.ai!way development. grievances. However, a proposal to issue a separAte series of bonds for Ministry of Railways by SHRI MAOHAVRAO SCJNDIA The the CentraJ Government bas been taken up best possible is beina attempted under the with lbe Ministry of Finapce. oircuIDStarK:es. Oral Answ~rl MAY 16,198' Oral "'nswer4 4

MR. SPEAKER: I have requc3ted so their influence on students during students.· many times the Hon. Members not to read elections by their unions. Wi)) the Govern .. out questions in the House. Whil~ putting ment consider putting a ban on such activj .. supplementary questions, they should not ties by political parties '? read out prepared ones and put in the House. Nothing should be read out in the House SHRI K. C. PANT: A ban in these and I wuuld like that YOU should put matters is not a solution. What is imporant straightforward supplem~;!ntaTies which could for all of us is to realise the damage which elicit some good response from the Hon. the student indiscipline is doing to the Ministers. fabric of our universitie:s. And the important thing is that whenever there is unrest in a Discipline in Universities universitYt maybe for legitimate reasons~ maybe because the grievances have piled up *876. SHRf D. P. JADEJA: Will the and the decision') have not been taken Minister of EDUCA lION be pleased to quickly, maybe because the facilities are not state : enough, maybe because there is overcrowding or whatever may be the reasons, then a cer­ (a) whether any guidelines have been tain amount of self disdpline has to be issued lo 8ta tes to bring about better disci­ exercised by poltical parties to see that they pline in various State Universities; and do not exploit the situation and thereby create problems in the university. The (b) if so., the details thereof? students become sometimes victims of such agitations and then other things happen THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K. C. PANT) which disturb the life of the university for (a) The Central years to come. Government has not issued any such guidelines to the States. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : According to late Shri M. C. Chagla, indiscipline is not a (b) Docs not arise. disease, it is only a symptom of the disease. The real disease is mora) degradation and SHRI 0. P. JADEJA : Sir, most of the this starts not from coJ]eges, but from the educational institutions in the country are high schools itself. I would like to know financed by the:: Government. I would like from tbe Minister whether he is aware of to know from the Hon. Minister whether he this basic fact, basic reason of indiscipline. considers having a Code of Conduct to be In view of this, will he consider to incJude accepted and implemented by the students. in his National Educational Policy moral instructional courses right from the high MIl. SPEAKER: That is a good example. school along with regular courses for giving greater res.pect to our culture, OUr national leaders, our political system etc. so that the SHRI K. C. PANT: Sir, the question students are better suited for the society. of Code of Conduct should appJy not only to students b~ to teachers, to political parties SHRI K. C. PANT: What my Hon. and to people from outside wh~) ure also friend has said is an important dimension of interested in the University education. Students education and character building. Imparting atone cannOI be blamed. of knowledge of the elements of ethics is important and I think that not only the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Edu­ cation Minister also. schools, but the home is also contributing to the moral education of children and any lacuna in the home cannot be made up by AN HON. MEMBER: Parents also. the school entirely. An of us have to see this problem in its true perspective. But 1 SHRI D. P. JADEJA: I was trying to do not mean to suggest that education does refer to all those who are connected wi\h not hav~ a role in tbi. aspect, but I would education and the Hon. Minister has also say that that is not the onJy reason. That is mentioned about the poljlical parties. May a.n important contributory factor, but there ) k.now from him whether he would consider are other reasons; there are economic reasons, banniQa poliljcaJ parties' interfercDICC and unemployment and so on. There is a lack s Oral A,nswer! VAISAKHA. 26, 1907 (SAltA) 6

of conlmunication between the teachers and views on the Act under which the Gandhiji the taught in the uni"versities; th~re is over: University has been establishod. The State crowding in the universities; there is oat Government has also not sent their reactions that close coos'ultation that· there should be to the observations made by the Commission. in tbe universities. In man)' universities, in many courses, teachers and students both I would like to amend it by saying that seem to have a lot of time at their hands, recently the Education Minister of Kerala they loiter about and the right thing would was h.:-re and' he has given some reactions. be to have a constant evaluation of the per­ He has not dealt with all the points raised by formance of the studeuts, so that the students the UGC. do not have too much time for other things except legitimate extra curricular activities. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : The University This means the tcacher taking on a much Grants Commission has suggested certain greater burden on him,se1f. These are aspects changes in the structure of the Syndicate and of this problem which ha~e also to be taken Senate. Accordingly these changes were in­ into account. The grievance procedures corporated in the University Act. The Hon. must be such that where individual grievances Minister of Education of K.erala has submit­ come up, they are sorted out immediately, ted a memorandum in this regard to the Hon. and the collective grievances also are sorted Minister of Education and the Chairman of out through a machinery like JCM which we the UGC. In the light of these, will the Hon. have for Central Governn1cnt servants. Minister direct the UGC to give recognition Participation of students in all aspects of the to the university so that it becomes eligible life of the university lihould be much more for grants? intense than it is today. Therefore, while I concede the importance of yow' preception of MR. SPEAKER: You are again folJowing the problen1, there are other dimensions the same thing which I do not like. You are also. reading out your supplementary.

UGC Recognition to Gandhiji Univer­ SHRI K.C. PANT: As I just mentioned, sity, Kottayam the Minister of Education of Kerala was here. He met the Chairman of the UGC and *877. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : 'Vill the he has also, rnet me. He bas given a letter Minister of EDUCATJON be pleased to and I have had a discussion with the Mate: Chairman of the UGC also. Some of the points raised by the UGC have bt"en met and (a) whether the Gandhiji University at some others are yet to be examined and finally Kottayam in Kerala has not yet been recog­ decided upon by the State Government. The nised by the University Grants Commission; only thing I can tell the HOD. Member is that nothing of a minor nature will hold up recog­ (b) if so, the reasons there of, and nition of t~ University by the UGC. But in (c) the steps being taken to expedite the matters of substance, they will have to satisfy recognition of this University? the UGC. That is necessary.

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Gaoohiji Uni .. (SHRI K.C. PANT) : (a) The Gandhiji versity is conducting specialised courses like University which is functioning under an Act Natural Science, Gandhian Studies and of the Kerala Legi)1ature d~ not require Polymer Chemistry, Basic Medical Science, any recognition from the UGC. However, the etc., whichthave great employment potentiality. University has to be declared fit by the UGC Therefore, I would like to know whether the to receive Central assistance under Section Hon. Mini$ter would give instructi('ns to the 12-8 of the UGC Act. UGC to give special assistance to this Univer­ sity to conduct these COUf!teS. J would also (b) and (e). The Government of KcraJa like to know whether the UGC will Jive has yet to fulfil the conditions laid down in special assistance, if the University takes steps the rules framed under Section 12·B of the to implement the suaestions made by the VGC Act. Meanwhile, t~ commission has UGe with regard to examination reforms and communicated to the Sf.ue Government its rcstruct...... of COUllCS. 8 7 Oral """r.f MAY J6.198~

MR. SPEAKER : Shri Mohandas is females is Jess than JO in rural areas. For a Bowed to lay the whole statement on the example, in rural areas of Madhya Pradesh, Table, for future reference. Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan, the percentage of literacy among women is less than 10 per Aid to Women's Schools and Colleges cent. Sir, it appears that this low rate of in Rural Areas enrolment of women in educational institu­ tions in rural areas would hamper the target *878. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the of universal elementary education by 1990. So, Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to may I know from the Hon. Minister whether state: there is any proposal for special assistance and enhanced allotment to remove the wide (a) whether there is any scheme under gap and imbalance and to eradicate illiteracy the consideration of Government to sanction among girls in rural areas? special aid in favour of the women's schools and colteJ:tcs, particularly to those situated in SHRI K. C. PANT: 1 fully agree with the rural area; and the Hon. Member that women's education (b) jf so, the details thereof? is lagging behind in certain States; and that when one sees the pattern of iIIiterac'y, there THE MINISTER OF 'EDUCATION also women figure prominently amongst (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) and (b). A state­ sections which have fallen behind. Special ment is Jaid on the Table of the Sabha. efforts do need to be made. It is in that con­ text that three of the schemes have been Statement mentioned in the statement: one, that edu­ A ~cheme of rcimhursment of tuition fec cation for girls is being made free~ i.e. no for girls in classes IX to XII to the States} ttJition fees will be charged between Classes Union Territories is proposed to be started 9 and 12-i.e. upto Class 12, because it is from J 985-86. already free upto Class 8. The other thing is with regard to developing under-graduate During the Sixth Plan the University education in the colleges, it is given in the Grant~ Commission has been providing assis­ statement-I need not repeat it. tance to ~ollcges for developing undergraduate education if the college concerned has at The third is with regard to women's least four departments with a minimum of hostels. All these three are in the statement. two teachers in each and a tota1 of at least Other than this, special assistance is given ten permanent teachers; the overall student­ for recruitment of women teachers in primary teacher ra tio is not more than 30: I and the schools. because that facilitates the enrolment college has at least 300 students in degree of girl students. Then special assistance is classes. In the case of women's colleges and given for non-formal education centres colleges located in backward and rural areas, specially meant for girls. There, the ratio is the enrolment requirement was relaxed from nluch more favourable in the case of centres 300 to 200. meant only for girls, as compared to mixed In addition, for construction of Women's centres. These are some of the measures hostc=ls, the Commission has been providing taken. assistance to the extent of 75 per cent of the approved cost ag(tinst 50 per cent in the case I can assure the Hon. Member that the Government is very conscious of the need to ~1en·s of hostels. The pattern of assistance assist in the task. of increasing tbe pace for colleges in the Seventh Plan is being Qf formulated. education anlongst women who have not been able to take full advantage of the edu­ SHRI N. DENNIS: The percentage of cation system. literacy in our country as per the 1981 Census is 36.23. Among males\ the literacy rate is SHRI N. DENNIS: The percentage of 46.89 per cent, whereas among females it is allocation of funds for education by the 24.82 per cent. Perc~ntage of literacy in Centre is on the decrease. Plan after Plan. The rural areas is 29.65. Amona males it is 40.79 allocation was 7.2 per cent in the first Plan, per cent and for females it is 17.96 per cent. whereas in the 6th Plan it is 2.6 per cent In some States. the percentaae of literacy in whereas in the States, on an averase 2S per 9 VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers ),,0 of the revenue budget is allocated for the pur­ special grants to such colleges in the rural pose of education. These allocations do not areas of Bihar whose number is very small meet the purpose. May I know from the Hon. or nea1igible. Minister whether an enhanced allotment would be made . for popularizing and propa­ SHRI K. C. PANT: The expenditure on gating education among rural girls, and also education is met by both the central as well olher sociaJly and educationally disadvanta­ as the State Government and assistance can ged sections of the society "/ be provided only within those limits.

SHRI K. C. PANT: I am grateful to (English] the Hon. Member for his support. I think he is trying to convert the converted. He SHRI D. K. NAIKAR : May 1 know knows whom he has to convert. He has to from tbe Hon. Minister whether he is aware help me. bf the manifesto given by the Congress-I Party during the last State Assembly elections SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: The in some States in '85 ?]n that manifesto, it percentage of educated rural women, speciaIJy has been provided that basic education upto among Scheduled Castes and Scheduled third level will be given free by the Govern­ Tribes is very low. H is only 5 per cerlt to 6 ment. 1n view of the increasing illiteracy is per cent. What steps is Government going to he willing to bring some sort of a 1cgi~lation take. to increase the percentage of the edu­ to imp1ement that promise of giving basic cated ? Is Government going to establish any education at all levels free of cost? women' university just as in Andhra Pradesh; is Government going to support such of the SHRI K. C. PANT: If legislation could universities in the I ural areas, and is it gOiI,]g achieve this objective, I wi)) gladJy bring this to provide amenities to the women's colleges legislation. Some Governments have gone in and women's schools, where there are no for legislation, but on that account they will toiletl) and other facilitil.;s to the girls who are not be able to achieve universalisation of the specially facing difficulties in rural areas? education. It is not a question of intent or wiJI or lack of law; it is a question of the I want to know from the Hon. Minister resources and the determination to get this what proposals he has got to increase the done. All I can assure my Hon. friend is that facilities to the rural women, belonging we are going to seriously try to reach this specially to the SCs and STs. target by 1990. I have gone into the matter. There ale various difficulties. J do not want SHRI K. c. PANT: Government is not to minimize or underestimate them. But we proposing to sct up any women's universities. will try in all seriousness to tackle this Some States have set up womenis universities; problem~ and I will come before the House and they are given assistance in the usual once we have gone into this matter deeply course. But universities are co-educational enough to discuss in the House exactly what institutions, by .and large. They are meant are the limitations and how we are trying to for girls as well as boys. Girls do take full overcome them. advantage of education at the university Facilities to Passengers level. I agree with my friend that toilets are also a problem in the schools in rural areas, ·879. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : Will the for girls also. We have a scheme for giving Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: assistance to the States, to make education free up to Class 12 for girls. We have asked (a) whether the Railway Reforms those States which will get tbis money, and Committee in its Report submitted to which will have something extra, to use that Government has recommended improving the extra money for providing toilets and dresses facilities to passengers; for giris, etc., in rural areas. (b) jf so, what are the precise sugges­ I Trallsia. ion] tions/recommendations made by the commit­ tee in this regard; and SHRIMATI PRA'BHAWATI GUPTA: Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to k.now from the (c) the action taken or proPosed to.Pc Hon. Minister whether he would aUa<:atc taken by Government to implement them? 12 11 Oral Nuwtrl MAY 16.19"

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Detai1~ of these suggestionl/recommen· MfNISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI dations are given in the Reports of the 'Rail­ MADHAV RAO SCINDIA): (a) to (c). A way Reforms Committee, which are I)'laced Statement is laid on the table of the Sabha. in the Parliament House Library for the perusal of Hon. Members. Statement (c) Implementation of suggestions/recom .. (a) Yes, Sir. mendations made by the Railway Reforms Committee is a continuous process dependent (b) A number of suggestions/recommen .. upon the availability of adequate resources. dations have been made relating to : Action has already been initiated to imple­ ment the suggestions/recommendations to (0 Improved Reservation, Enquiry and the extent feasible. allied facilities; [Trims/arion] (ii) Setting up of Indian Railway Cater­ ing Corporation to improve the SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : While replying standard of catering; to the question, the Hon. Minister has stated in part (c) of his rep1y that- (iii) Establishing Hotels at important stations; [English]

(iv) Improvement in the upkeep 9f the "Implementation of suggestions/recom­ Retiring Rooms; mendations made by the Railway Reforn1s committee is a continuous (v) Promotion of tourism by running process ...... " Holiday and Tourist Specials; [Translation]

(vi) Introduction of inter-city fast It means that the impl ementation of the sug­ trains and running of commuter gestions/recommendations of the Railway services by electric/diesel hauled Reforms committee is a continuous process" long trains; the process of bringing about efficiency and improvement in the catering services. He has (vii) Removing congestion on platforms; said under item (ii) of part (b) of reply to the same question that- (viii) Provision of water coolers to ensure cool and potable drinking water in [English] the trains; "Setting up of Indian Railway catering corporation to improve the standard Ox) Standardisation of requisition for of ca tering. " bed-rolls and their proper launder­ ing arrangements; [Trans/at ion)

(x) Provision of cushioned seats, berths is this also a continuous process and have in second class and more air-con­ you taken some steps to set up such a corpo· ditioned chair car and A.C. Sleepers ration and' to expand it ? in future production of coaches; SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The (xi) Improvement in the design of the Indian Railways arrange cartering service coaches to improve ratio of toil~t ' through contractors at about 3,500 ,places to passengers, increased water and departmental catering facilities are storage facilities and provision of provided at about 125 stations. The proposal eleetr K: water (oolen; for the setting up of RaHway catering corpo­ ration is still under the consideration of our (xii) Improvina·sub .. urban services; Ministry, but we are of the view tbat a pilot project may be taken up on the basis of a (xiii) Qualitative improvement at the ter· pilot scheme and based on the experience of mJnal •. such a scheme, we shall consider tbe settina J3 VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) 14

up of the R.ailway catering corporation or to amenities. The Han. Minister has stated that expand that catering service. This pilot pro~ it is a continuous process, that is, the imple­ ject has been taken in hand for New Delhi mentation of the suuestions and recommen­ Railway Station and it is expected to be com­ dations is a continuous process. I like to pleted by the end of this year. The consul­ know from the Hon, Minister what are tbe tancy in this regard l!as bec:n given to specific suggestions that have been implemen­ I.T.D.C. ted so far, say No.1, 2, 3, 4, and 0 so 00. Of course, it is really a continuous process SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : The Railway but the number of suuestions, they may be Reforms Committee have also recommended two, they may be three or they may be foul', the introduction of inter-city fast trains and out of the ten suggestions regarding passen. you have introduced some fast trains also, ger amenities, What are those recommenda. but it has been seen that when we ,ompare tions that have been implemented, so far? I the two railways - the Central and the Western want a categorical anSWer from the Railway Railway for instance the trains on the Cen­ Minister. tral Railway running between Delhi and Bombay or from the Hyderabad side to SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The Bombay run always late by an hour or two suggestions that have been implemented are hours and sometimes even by 6 to 7 hours, fairly numerous. But I would say that the whereas , the trains of the Western Railway main suggestions which have been implemen­ run on time. I would like to know the rea­ ted pertain to providina additional st,aff at sons for that. reservation counters, special facilities at booking offices, computerisation elc. Compu­ SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The terisation is being started with tbe Northern reasons are the same 3Jid efforts to bring Railway as the first project to be take11 in about improvement in this regard continue. hand and I hope that next year we will have There are some restrictions, such as, crossing computerisation at New Delhi Railway Sta­ problem, chain pulling, etc. and tnese arc the tion, Nizamuddin Railway Station and Old reasons which cause late running of trains. Delhi Railway Station also. There are anum. ber of other s&..ch recommendations that have [English] been implemented. I can go through the en­ tire list, but I would sU88<=st that I can com. SHRI A. CHARLES: If I understand municate these in writing to the Hon. correctly the Himsagar Express is the longest Member. distance running train in this country. This train connects Kanyakumari and Kashmir and it can be said to be a symbol of the unity [Trans/at ion] of this country. But quite unfortunately there SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Will the are no catering facilities in this train. In every Hon. Minister be pleased to state the reSlOns bogie there is a notice saying "Less luggage, why in spite, of the recommendation made by more comfort, make travel a pleasure". I the Railway Reforms Committee long back would like the Railways to give a cup of tea to provide such facilities pantry car is not and a meaJ at the appropriate time, and make being attached to the Jayanti Jan8ta Express the passengers feel more comfortable. May I which bas been running between Barauni and request the H{ln. Minister to start catering New Delhi and what steps are being taken facilities in this longest running train? by Government in this regard" SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDA: The Himsagar Express, no doubt, is the train SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA: We running for the longest distance in the coun­ are badly feeling the absence of the pantry try and the Member's suggestion is a good car. Pantry car is first attached to the lona one; it will certainly be noted. distance trains as in the case of Himsaaar Express to which an Hon. Member has just SHRI BASUDEB ACHARJA ; The Rail­ referred. More and more pantry cars are way Reforms Committee have submitted 21 attached on the basis of priority, but suffici­ recommendations and out of them there are ent number of pantry cars are not available 10 recommendations in recard to ,passeoaer 'at prescot. l' Oral MlWerl MAY 16, 1985 SHRI BALKAVl BAlRAGI: I want to (c) if so, the details 'thereof and reaction know from the Hon. Minister the facilities of GOvernment thereto? being considered by Government for being provided to the middie and low income group THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION passengers in view of the recommendations AND POWER (SHRl B. SHANKARA­ of this Committee ? NAND) (a) to (c). Some of the projects in Maharashtra and Bihar are behind schedule. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Mr. Central assistance is given in the form of Speaker, Sir, the main recommendation of block loans and block grants and is not tied the Railway Reforms Committee was on the to any particular scheme or sector of deve­ lines of pilot projects like the Yatri Niwas lopment. The States have to plan, fund and which we have just taken up at the New implement their own projects and make D~i Railway Station. This is for the middle adequate provision therefor within their and low income group passengers and we over-all plan allocations. endeavour to ••• [Translation] [English] SHRI BANWARt LAL PUROHIT: 22 PROF. N. G. RANGA : Is Government big and 42 medium projects of Maharashtra taking any steps to see that drinking water is are pending for years. The reason is that provided during sumlner ? there is no coordination between the 15 de­ partments of the central Government connec­ SHRl MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Spe-­ ted with it. When the State Government cial attention is being given to provide drin­ sends a proposal to the Central Water Com­ king water on the railway platforms and in mission. queries are received there from 15 the trains. (Interruptiol1,\') In the matter of Central Government departments. These quer­ drinking water not only have we asked to ries are not raised at a time. One department give sJ)ecial attention at the railwClY stalions wakes up after six months and there is still and on train., with vestibules, but we have another who takes action a year later. Thus, said that even the first class AC or first class the querries regarding tbe project take many passengers, a particular category which years, leading to a rise in the cost of the pro­ 'Madam probably patronises the most; that ject and consequently a revi-;ed project esti­ is why. she is very keen about it, they either mate needs to be submitted. Like this, this carry their own thermos or the facilities are cycle goes on. good enough. But Wht!fC priority must be given is to the second class passengers. There­ The second reason is paucity of funds. fore. we have said that on vestibule trains Your Forest Act also comes in the way of there should be covered huckets or jerry cans these projects. Therefore, I would like to with water and an attendant with water know from the Hon. Minister whether efforts facil ities. would be made to complete these projects soon by bringing about coordination between Completion of Irrigation projects in these ] 5 departments of the Central Govern­ Mahar. shtra and Bihar ment? SecondJY9 what is the amount of -+ allocation, sought by the Government of *880. SHRI BANWARl LAL PUROHIT: Maharashtra and wha t is the amount sanc­ DR. O. S. RAJHANS: \ tioned by the centre ? Will the Mir'lster of IRRIGATION AND PO\VER be pleased to state: (Engli.\h)

(a) whether the Government are aware SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : The Hon. that some of the I rriga lion Projects in States Member's main grievance seems to be that of Maharashtra and Bihar are far behind the projects submitted by the Maharashtra their schedule; Government for clearance are delayed be­ cause, according to him, the various Depart­ (b) whether the Governments of both the me~ts of the Government have no coordina­ States have requested the Centre to provide tion with tbe Dep,artment of Irrigation. I adequate funds for completion of such irriaa­ bave explained in this HQuse on more than tion projects; and one OQCa8ion tbe reasons for delay. ,They are; 17 Oral AnswtrJ VAiSAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 the plans and projects submitted by the State want a specific reply. For example, I want to Governments are not at all complete in all know the exact position of Western Kosi respects in spite of the guideHnes given to Canal. It is a project involving two counlncs them by the Centra) Government. When ctr­ Nepal and India, and is being executed by tain defects are noti~ or certain observa­ the Government of Bihar. I want to know tions are made, they are sent back, and in the its exact position and also as to wben it will meantime, the cost escalates. The State be completed. Governments also revise . the projects some­ times. On more than one occasion, they revised the scope of the project itself. There SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Sir, the are various reasons which the Hon. Men1ber main question is whether there are any pro­ is not aware of and which perhaps are not jects in Bihar and Maharashtra which are due the default of the Department of Irriga­ behind the schedule, and I said, there are tion or the Central Water Commission ••• sonle. The reason for this is non -completion (Interrupt ion). of the projects in time for want of funds, for want of technical clearance and for other PROF. N.G. RANGA: He is asking rea~ons that I have already given. Bihar has about coordination. 12 major and 20 medium pre-Sixth Plan projects and 7 m,,'dium Sixth Plan schemes SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Coope­ spilling into Seventh Plan. Their latest total ration and coordination is already there. It estimated cost is about Rs. 2,300 crores is a question of cooperation and coordination whereas the rough spill-over cost is about between the State and the Ccntr~. The State Rs. J, 700 crorcs_ BIhar has not been able to should give all the details that have been as­ complete these projects in VI Plan because ked for by the Centre. they have taken liP many projects for which they cannot provide funds. The thin layers of (Translation] resources spread over the many pr{ljccts is the SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Mr. main cause for the non-completion of the Speaker, Sir, my important question was how various projects. much aUocation was sollght b}' the Mahara­ sh tra Government and how much was sanc .. [Trans/at ion] tioned by the Centre. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Ram Swaroop MR. SPEAKER: The vital Question is Ram. that the more the delay, the more the dislo­ cation. Efforts should be made to obviate I am looking towards Ram. If BalraOl delay. . does not look towards Ram, who else would (English] he look to ?

Delay brc:eds every damn thing. SARI BALKA VI BAIRAG 1: Please see that Nand Ram is oot left out in between SHRI B .. SHANKARANAND: Sir, I Ram and Balram. have answered to the main question that Centra) assistance is not given to any parti­ SHRI RAMSWARCOP RAM: Mr. cular scheme or project, it is given in the Speaker, Sir, the Tilniya Dadar Irrigation form of block grants and block loans. Maha­ Project and the Muhane Reservoir Prcljed rashtra Governmel1t had requested for assis­ ~:re quite big and imrortant schemes, -whose tance in ]980·S1, 1981-82, J982-83 and foundation stunes had al5{> been laid. hut 1983-84. In 1980·81, they asked for Rs. 32 tbe '" ork has not started on them due to the crores; in 1981-82, Rs, 20.70 crofts; Rs. 22,(0 rBl'city of funds, a Ithcuih it is now more crores in 1982-83 and Rs. 47.06 crores during 1han a year since the foundation ~tones were 1983·84. However, no such additional assis­ laid ... } wouJd like to know from the Hon. tance could be provided by the Government Minister 'Whether arransements are being of India. made to make available the funds allocated by tbe Government of India for these two DR. G. S. RAJ HANS: Sir. the reply of schemes within two or three months, so that tbe HOD. Minister leads us nowhere. We the work could start there '1 19 Oml Anlt'lm 20

[English] sation or rennovation also without funds. Whatever we could do is being done. :Now, it SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I have is for the Bihar Government to do the rest. already said that the funds are provided by the State Governments. The projects are PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Sir. its clearance funded and implemented by the State Govern­ is awaited. It is a very important thing. ments. The Central assistance is not given Would the Minister coasidcr to take a decision to any project. ror its early clearance from his end? All the formalities by the State Govem,ment have (Translatlon1 been completed. SHRI C. P. THAKUR: Mr. Speaker, MR. SPEAKER: Is it such a thing as Sir, I want to know from the Hon. Minis­ clearRnce 1 ter whether some action is being taken regar­ ding the Sone Canal Scheme which is pending SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND = Sir, we with the Centre for a long time? The Sone win not delay even for a moment, if all Canal was constructed by the Britishers and observations are complied with by the it has not been renovated for the last 1SO Bihar Government. years. [Translation] MR. SPEAKER : He will not be in a position to tell us about the project. Complimentary Railway Passes to Freedom Fighters. I Engll!;h] r-.. + Wi ( PROF. K. K. TEWARY: Sir, it is a '·882 SHRI VISHNU MODI very important qucsticn. The canal referred , SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: to by the Hon. Member is 120 years old and it provides assured irrigation to two districts Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be Bhojpur· Rohtas and Patna. The scheme was pleased to state: to be funded by the World Bank. All forma­ lities have been completed by the State and (a) whether a scheme was prepared for and it is lying with the Central Government. extending first c1ass pass facility to the free­ So~ I would like to know what steps the dom fighters for 'Bharat Darshan'; Centre is going to take in this regard. (b) if so, how many freedom fighters SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Sir, we have availed of this facility; must thank nature that this project is working for the last more than tOO years in Bihar. (c) whether this facility has recently been withdrawn; PR.OF. K. K. TEWARY : Yes~ it is one (d) if so, the reasons therefor; of the oldest projects in the country. It is more than 100 years old. (e) whether Government have received any memorandum in this regard from freedom SHill B. SHANKARANAND: That is fighters; what I said. We must thank nature for that. (f) if 50, whether Government propose (l,,'~rruplions ) to restore this facility; and That is the reason why Buddha was born (a) if not, the reasons therefor 1 in Bihar. [English] SHRI C. P. THAKUR: 1 would like to know what is the Central Government doing THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS: i.n this regard. 1 wou1d like to have an answer (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. from the Hon. Minister on this question. (b) 136 first class all India Compli­ SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : Wutever mentary Card Passes were issued to tbe free­ external asistance cou ld be liven is beina dom fighters by the Railways. Out of these, liven to Bihar. Without funds no project is the number who actually availed of the tra­ cOJDPlctod and there canDot be an)' mod~mi· vel facility is Dot knoWD. 21 VAISAKHA 26, '1907 (SAKA.) 0".1 AIUW~r$ 22

(c) 'I'M facility has been held in 1tak~ notes, but no verbatim feadina is abeyance.. . allowed. that is irrespective of any ooc. (d) The matter is under examination of (InN"UI'liolfS) the Government. Prepared statement is sometbina else. (e) and (f) Yes, Sir.. Tht: matter is under cons idera tion. PROF. K. K. TEW AR Y : It shows tbeir performance. (s) Does not arise.

(TralfsJationJ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, your fulina also' sbould not b~ in writing, SHRI VISHNU MODI: Mr~ Speaker. Sir, I know from the Hon. Minister want to [Trails/at ion) the reasons for withdrawing the facility of first class pass granted to the freedom fighters SHRI BANSI LAL: This matter was for 'Bharat Darshan' 7 Will the Hon. referred to the Home Ministry.. Their reply is Minister be pleased to state the number of awaited .. States whose freedom fighters had not been informed that they cauld avail of this faci­ SHRI VISHNU MODI: I had asked for lity and who were consequently deprived of the reasons for withdrawing it. its benefits and the details in this regard '1 SHRI BANSI LAL : The reason is thal MR. SPEAKER: You are a young man. it involves an expenditure of about Rs. 100 What was the need to read it? You could crores; Who will bear it ? The welfare of the have spoken strai8}lt away. freedom fighters is the responsibility of the Home Ministry and that is why we have (English] referred it to them. SHRI VISHNU MODI: What was the 1 want to tell this House, if no Hon. number of persons who applied for passes Member reads certain things in the House or and of those who were issued passes 1 What reads certain questions or prepared statement, were the f-.!8sons for not issuing these passe~ the reflection outside goes that we are being to some of them, coached by somebody. I do not want to let that thing pr~vai) in the House. We must be SHRI BANSI LAL : There it no record on our own and at no cost we should degrade of the number of persons who applied for the prestige of the House. passes, but as I have already told, these passc5li were given to 136 persons. PROF. N. G. RANOA: But there are !lome Members who are not able to formulate SHRI TARIQ ANWAR ~ Whenever we their supplementary then and there and put speak, part iculariy we people who are in them. politics, refer to the freedom fiahters and MR. SPEAKER: They can have points, J tbeir sacrifice in our speeches ..• but not read the whole script like that. It is ! I not good. There is time for the next session. ~I' SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: We Now, it is only a day or so for the present 'i are happy t<.' be here andit is becal.l&e of their session. S~ we must prepare ourself for that ,. sacrifices. and put up a good show in the next session. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: Jt is true that PROF. K. K. TEWARY : These i"lstruc· we are sittioa here due to them and the credit tio,ns should be for the other side also. for this goes to lhem. But, when we talk about giving them facilities. many hindlances MR. SPEAKER: Yes' come in tbe way_ Recentij, durinl the inaugu­ (Interruptions) ration of tbe Congress Centenery Celebrations. our Prime Minister made a very good aono... MR. SPEAKER : They have to take uncement accordina to which tbeir pension was notes. which they are allowed. You can also raiKd (rom R.s. 300 to Rs. S('(). This, indeed, 23 Ora/ Answerl MAY 16, 1985 Oral Answers 24 is a very bold step~ but so far as the railways (b) whether Government have any posi­ are concerned, the Hon. Minister bas just tive plans to prevent the incidence of polio now replied that tirst class passes had been and also the incidence of diptheria pertussis., issued to 136 persons. In this connection, I tuberculosis and typhoid fever; and want to know whether there is any criterion for giving these passes? Were only these, (c) whether Government propose to start persons entitled to these P.lSSCS and not special hospitals for chi ldren only? olhers? Many of our freedom fighters are living in the villages and the information rela. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ting to the facilities being given by the rail­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ways do not reach them. Therefore, I want FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI YOGENDRA to know whether some arrangements would MAKWANA) : (a) Precise estimates of cur~ be made whereby the information regarding rent incidence of polio in tbe country are nol' the facilities being given by the railways available. During 1983 the State Health could reach them ? Authorities reported about 21 thousand cases to Central Bureau of Health Intelligence.

SHRI BANS] LAL: There arc about (b) Immunization services against diph­ 400.000 people who are entitled to the theria, pertussis, tetanus. poliomyelitis. tuber .. pass(.s out of which 1,29.000 get pension culosis and typhoid fever are being provided from the cent, a' Government and 2.75,000 or under the Expanded Programme on Immuni­ 3,00,000 p~fsons get pension from the State zation. Ciovernments. Th.!rerore. the department which grants them pension will have to bear (c) There is no such proposal in the the fare Ort this account. This case has been Central Sector. referred to the Home Ministry. The freedom 1ighters have not been refused this facility. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Sir, recently the The matter iii still under consideration. polio vaccine supplied by sonle of the foreign countries has been found to be ineffective in SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : Mr. Speaker, substance. There were reports that many Sir, when 1 had raised this question initially, eminent doctors had found them ineffective Shri Sethi did not agree to it at that time. and also reported this fact to the Govern­ At that time, the then Prime Minister, late ment. More-over, there is no sufficient cold Shrimati Indira Gandhi had said that there storage to keep the vaccine in all the hospi­ were only a very few freedom fighters alive tals. Sufficient quantity is also not improved now and that we should give this benefit to with "the result there is a dearth of not only them, so that they could see ho"w much the polio vaccines but also Triple Antigen vacci­ country bDd progressed. Are we waiting for nes in rural areas. It is very important that the day when even some of these handful these important drugs are supplied to the of persons may also depart from here 1 rural hospitals where the incidence of polio is frighteningly very large. S'RRI BANSI LAL : We are not waiting Regarding part (c) of the Question, spe­ for that. A decision will soon be taken in cial health service is absolutely necessary in this regard. schools to safeguard the health of school going children. Especially in Andhra Pradesh, [E"glish] the services are available only in big" hospitals in Vizag and Hyderabad. I will request the Jlospitals for Children Suffering from Hon. Minister to see whether be is able to Polio etc. extend the services to at least up to district centre level. *884. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI : Wilt the Minister of HEATH AND FAMILY SHRI YOGENDRA MAKW ANA: The WELFARE be pleased to state: services are available not only at the district level but they are up to the primary healtb (a) whether it is a fact that one out of Centre level because at the PHC, there is a every 4,000 children below the age of 9 years freezer and at the district level, there is a is sufferina from polio and about 2,70,000 deep freezer. So, we store the vaccines at the such ~s of polio are reported annually; disllict level and then pass them on to the 25 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answer $ 26 primary health centres where again they are diseases by providing proper sanitation, safe kept in the cold storage for a number of drinking water etc. ? In rural areas, people days. And then, the vaccine goes to the sub.. are still going for open defecation and there centre and at the village level. 1herefore, are no proper cond itions in the area. E veil there is a network of the sub.centre, primary drinking water is not available. In order to health centre, district hospital and referaJ prev,nt these diseases \\hich are Itoing to centre which are supplying vaccines. cause permanent d habiHty in the rural popu­ lation, has the Government of India formua­ Regarding the complaint made by the ted any scheme for the preventive measures '/ Hon. Member, we have not ccme across any such case where the var.cine was found inef­ SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA; Sir, fective. It may be the case where proper our National Health Policy is very clear. doses are not given at the proper time be­ Firstly it talks about the prevention of disease cause it has to be given at certain intervals and then, jf necessary, treatment and cure and if it is not done, it n-.ay prove ineffec­ also. But this is a State programme and 'be tive also. Government (!f India is giving them assis­ tance by way of aid and advice to the States. SHRI D.N. REDDY: As a doctor, I We give finance as welJ as technical guidance. know that, (Interruptions.) Unless the polio Otherthings arc also provided by the Govern­ vaccine is kept in refrigeralion or cold 5t.;· ment of lndia. But the primary \\'OJ k, the rage, the vaccine becomes useless. Even if it implementation, is being done by the State is exposed in the room temperature for a few Governments. The Hon, Member has rightly minutes , it becomes ineffective, There is no said that rural water supply also bas some point in supplying vaccine which is not effec­ connection with this because if pure potable tive or useful. water is available, then many of tbe diseases can be avoided and Government is working More-over, it is important to import the on these schemes with the PWD and other vaccine in sufficient quantity and keep them in concerned Departments. cold storage even in the village sub·centre.The plea that it has to be transported from one SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNS) : hospital to another and therefore the vaccine Just now the Hon. Minister has said tbat in becomes ineffective is not valid. It cannot be all the primary health centres the refrigera­ t! a sufficient reason for suppJying ineffective tion system is there to preserve the preven­ polio vaccines. tive medicines for children's diseases. SHR} YOGENDRA MAKWANA: Sir, May I know whether the HOD. Minister it bas been done. In the Seventh Plan, we stands by th e accuracy of his sta.ement ? Has are gOing to give these vaccine~ to all the the Hon. Minister into the matter '! children. There will be immunization pro· enquired At least, in my knowledge, Dot a single pri­ gramme. mary health centre in West Bengal has got As I have said, cold storage facility is avai· the refrigeration system to preserve the pre­ lable at the'district level and at the primary ventive medicines. Is it Dot the rault of the health -centre level because there is a refri­ Government '? getator. So, it can be preserved there. It bas to be prsserved in a cold atmospbere and 1 think the Hon. Minister is not accu .. that facility is available at the primary health rate in his facts and by saying this, the Hon. centre. Every primary health centre is located Minister is again 'provoking tbe people to where the population is of 5,000. demonstrate.

SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS MUNSI : Will the HOD. tdinister correct his state­ There is no cold storage. ment or win the Hon. Minister enquire into the matter? DR. V. VENKATESH: Sir. prevention is better than cure, These diseases are danlerw (Interruptions) ous and they are causing ,permanent disabi­ lity to children in the society. Has the MR. SPEAKER: Let us~1Jear the HOD. Government lot aD), idoa of prev.tina tbe Minister. 17 Oral Answers MAY 16, 1985 Oral Answer' 28

(Tran,lalion) (a) what is the State-wile break-up of electrification of rail Jines ; SHRI R.AM NAGINA MlSHRA ~ They are not there anywhere in U. P. ••• • ..... (b)' whether it is a fact that Andhra Pradesh has been most neglected area in this (Interrupt ions) resard ; and

MR. SPEAKER: 1 have heard you. (c) if so, the reasons therefor '1

[Eltgliah} THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BA NSI LAL): (a) A Statement is Let us hear him. Beware of your laid on the table of the Sabha. answers. (b) No, Sir. (Trans lat ion} (c) Does not arise. I have, therefore. cautioned also. Statement (Intel rllp' ion$) States Already Electrifica­ (English) electrified as tion in pro­ SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS MUNSI: on 31.03. gress/ The Hon. Minister's answer is misleading. 1985 Route sanctioned Kilometres Route SHRI YOGENDRA MAKW ANA: Kilometres There is no question of misleading .•. Andhra Pradesh (Interruptions) 608 611 Bihar 877 611 SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA : Will you please hear me ? Gujarat 524 93 Haryana 74 (Inlerruplion3) Karnataka 92 MR. SPEAKER: Beware of your offi­ Maharashtra 789 cers, Mr. Minister. 889 Madhya Pradesh 413 1,965 SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA: Orissa 316 There is no question of Inisleading of the Rajasthan Ministers' by the Officers. I said in the begin­ 22 551 ning that health is a State subject and Tamil Nadu 426 104 Government of India can provide only funds. Uttar 'Pradesll 942 309 It is for the State Government to implement West Bengal 1,240 it. ]n a particular State ...••• Union Territory of 89 (Interruptions) ... Delhi

In some States, if it is not done, what can Total 6,440 5,231 We do? We can provide funds and we can request the State Governments to do it ••• SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: (Interrupt ions) 1n Andhra Pradesh, Vijaywada-BaJarsba line is pending electrification for the past so SHR.l YOGENDRA MAKWANA : That many years. is the only tbing and they can brina it to the Will the Hon. Minister be pleased to say noti~ of the State Government. wbether this line will be completed by the EJectrUkatloa of Rail LIDes end of this year. The Hon. Minister bas liven a list of some of the railway lines which are *88S. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA beinl electrified this year. I would like to REDDY: Will the MiniMer of RAILWAYS know whether Vijayawada· Balarsha railway be pleased to state : line is included in this list 1 29 Short Notice Question VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Short Notice QueGtlon 30

(Interruptions) (b) whether it is also a fact that thous­ ands of workers of the said Mills have not MR. SPEAKER: Which is tbe railway received even a single penny durin& the last line which you are referring to ? three years; and

SHRI H.A. DORA: Balasa is my native (c) whether it is also a fact that thous­ place. The Minister mentioned about the ands of workers have been forcibly reti.red 1 Vijayawada"Balasa railway line in his Budget speech. THE MINISTER OF THE STATE OF (InterruptiollS) THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) : (a) According to Delhi Adminis­ MR. SPEAKER: You cannot do like tration, no clotb is being produced as Wea­ this. Please take your seat. Don't you know ving and Allied Sections of the Birla Mills the name of the railway line? remain closed. • SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: (b) We are not aware and are verifying It is Vijayawada-Balarsha line, not Vijaya­ from the Delhi Administration the position wada-Balasa line. My friend is mistaken. regarding non-payment of wages to the workers. [Translation] (c) According to the Delhi Administra­ MR. SPEAKER : The saying of an tion, 244 workers have been retired during uninvited guest forcing the host to offer the last three years. Besides, 721 permanent hospitality fits well here. workers are being paid Jay off compensation while 255 badli workers are being provided SHRI BANSI LAL: The work on the work for 11 days in a month. Report from Vijayawada-Balarsha line is in progress. the Delhi Administration about the remain­ ing workers, if any, affected by the closure . SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: of the Weaving and Allied Departments is Will the Government be in a position and awaited. Separately, Government is veryfying be able to finish it by the end of this year? the details from the CPFC and ESIC Organi­ SHRI BANSI LAL : It will be finished sations and appropriate action will be taken. by 1987-88. [Trans/ation] , SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: As far as Hyderabad is concerned, it is a SHRI LALIT MAKEN: Mr. Speaker, growing city. Its population is growing. Sir, I am happy to note that the HOD. Minister has admitted at least one fact that PROF. N.G. RANOA : Everybody not a single yard of cloth has been manu­ knows it. factured in the Birla Mill for the last three years. Before I put my question, I want to SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY : . thank the Hon. Labour Minister and the Will the Government take up electrification Hon. Minister of Works and Housing tbat of tbe railway line connecting the suburbs of they have saved 6000 workers of the D.C.M. the city by electric trains? wbom tbe owner or the mill wanted to finish in one stroke. But, tbis problem of SHRI BANSI LAL: I have not been able to follow. (Interruptions). tbe Birla Min is more serious than that of the D.C.M. This is so because the owner of tbe mill wants to finish the workers throuah SHORT NOTICE QUESTION the method of slow torture. The owner of the Birla M in sometimes severs their bands, Hirla Mills Delhi sometimes their feet and sometimes their heads. 2. SHRI LALIT MAKEN : Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: MR. SPEAKER: Do you think tbat anybody can survjve afler be is beheaded 1 (a) whether it is a fact that not even a single meter of cloth has been produced in SHRI l,ALIT MAKEN : Now tbey are I Birla Mills of Delhi; as ,cod at dead. I waDf~ to tell you why 32 31 Shprl Noliet Que~/ion MAY 16, 1986 Short Noliet Question they have reached such a sad state. Mr. departments and that employment should be Speaker, Sir, during the last two years. such given to the three thousand workers who conditions were created in which two bad been rendered jobless, but these instruc­ thousand workers have been retrenched. 1n tions were not headed to and the Delhi the beginning, the weaving department was Administration filed a suit against the Birla closed down, thereafter other departments MiH ? Is it not a fact that three departments were closed down, as a result of "hich three have been closed down as recently as last thousand workes have been rendered jobless week? I want to know the reasons why for the la.st three )ears. Not a single paisa Birla Mill cannot be taken over when Tata's has been paid to these workers. The Hon. Mill and the D.C.M. can be taken over. Minister has himself admitted that he is not aware of it. Not a single paisa has been SHRI T. ANJIAH : Mr. Speaker, Sir, paid to thousands of workers for the last the Delhi Administration have so far taken two years. action on 6 counts against the management. The first is that they have been prosecuted MR. SPEAKER: You put your question. for dosing down the weaving section, secon­ dly, a court of enquiry has been instituted, SHRI LA LIT MAKEN: 1 am putting thirdly, the ulattcr has been referred to the my question. Unless I narrate the conditions Department of Industries. The Delhi Admin­ prevail ing there, the Hon Minister would istration had not in any way given permis­ not be able to reply to my question. My sion to close down the weaving section. The question that not a single paisa has been Management closed down this section paid to the workers for the last three years disregarding the court and the Jaw. We arc has not been replied to ? How many workers disturbed over this development and are were beaten up there during the last three taking action in this regard. Today,· every· years,? One worker was Ii fled up and where the management wants to close down thrown into the boiler. The departments the old factory and set up a new one in its were closed down one after the other. Now, place. There are about 825 textile industries other departmlnts are also being closed in the country and this is the tendency of down. W~, had d~monstrations, agitations most of the nlill-owners. Consultations in and hunger strikes and demonstrated out­ this regard are going on with the Textile side the Parliament HOllse a number of Ministry and we shaH think about taking times during the last thre.;: years. But. 1 am action on its report, which is likely to be "orry to say that the ConltnerCe Ministry submitted sooo. We sball think about its did not take action about the Birla Milt take over and shall also study the general even once. situation and action would be taken on the basis of the report which is awaited. MR. SPEAKER: You put your question. SHRl LALIT MAKEN: I have not SHRI LALIT MAKEN: I am coming received the reply to my question. I had to the questions. asked whether it was not a fact that a resolution was adopted by tne Delhi Metro­ Is it not a fact that two years ago, Shri politan Council two years ago and the Delhi Jagpravesh Chandra, the leader of the House Administration had decided to take over in the Delhi Metropolitan Council who is this mill? You have admitted that the Delhi also the Chief Executive Councillor had Administration had issued instructions tabled a resolution in the House that the and had not given permission. I want to Management of the Birta Milt was not know bow this mill has been closed down for interested in running tbe Min and, therefore, the last three years and why Government the Mill should be taken over? are sitting silent.

MR. SPEAKER: You put only one [English] question. Are Government only silent spectator?

S,HIlI LALlT MAKEN : I am clubbing [Tr«nliatioll] it with tbe question. Is it not a fact tbat the Labour Commissioner of Ot'lhi had issued I want to know how. wben' permission was instructiOlll that they should run aU the nc.,t aranted the mill was allowed to close Short NlJllce Ou~/ion VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Sltort Notice Question 34 down and also inspite of the fact tbat tho action will be tak-en by tbo Oo_~ fa Delhi Administration had passed a unani­ cue 'tile mill does. not open witIIiD tw tB(nII resohItiOD? Therefore, my demand mcmtbs ? it that the Hon. La\')our Minister should take the responsibitity 0( either getting the miH rEnglish] reopened before the next session of ParHa­ MR. SPEAKER: He has already said it. ment starts or take it over. Merely talking What more can I get out of him? He said like this is not going to help. (Interruptions) that they wouJd consider what the Metropo­ litan Council had said. SHRI 'T. ANJIAH : We s'ball hold dis­ cussions in the meeting and then decide. It it SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: As far as I difficult to say anything at this stage. Half of can understand, the Weaving Departmeat iD the mill i~ running whereas the other half the Bi ria M i Us was closed down as long aao has been .closed down. We shall press them as August, 1982. So it is not a matter of to run the weaving section. If they do not run Tecent occurrence. The Minister has t\)ld UI it, we shall c~:msider the recommendation ~hat they propose to do now. The weavina made by the Delhi Administration to the Department was closed down and as Mr. Textiles Ministry. Makan has pointed out that not a singJe yard of cloth is being woven in that mill and tbey SHRI LALIT MAKEN : You please tell have closed down the weaving department me whether within two months, before the totally, I want to know' whether it is a fact next session of Parliament. .. (Interruptions) or not. Now subsequently, in the last week [English] they have also closed down three more departments-the printing department, the MR ..SPEAKER: That is an right. It shearing department and the colouring depa­ cannot be a Question of debate. He has ans· rtment. These are finishing departments. wered it already. Once the cloth is woven they 'have to pass through these departments for the finishina [Translat ion]' process. That means that the mill manqe .. ment is determined to go ahead with it. SHRI LALIT MAKEN: Mr. Spea~er, proposal to close down production of cloUI Sir, this is a very serious matter concerning completely. I want to know from him, The the families of 6000 workers. My question other day during the debate on Labour has not been replied to fully. Ministry's Grants I have used an expression which angered a large number of members [Ehglishl here. Perhaps they did not understand what MR. SPEAKER : That is what he has I have been saying. I said that J would like said-tb4t they will take into consideration. this Hon. Minister-whom I rt"spect verY . - much - to try to rescue this labour adminis- [Trans/at ion] tration from its present stage of impotcnco. Some people got angry. They said tIli, word SHill LALIT MAKEN: What action is unparliamentary and this should be expUp~ you are going to take if the M ill is not re­ Bed. It was not expunged. Impotence bu opened within two months? many meaninas. They we.re perbapi tbi_ina of other meaninp. [8",/;s"] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: lmpo" MR. SPEAKER: He has already tence of inanimate thing is permissib~. answered it. SHRI INDR.AJIT GUPTA: Sir, wh, II that inspite of the fact that Birl. m__ ment is repeattdly refusing to carry out .. SHRI LALIT MAKEN : If it is a matter orders of the Labour Departmcnt and Labour. for consideration, 'you may tell us how the Comm issioner no action is beiPI ta kon qat_ min is lying closed when permission was o'ot the,m ? They have made it clear that i_. ate &ranted ? No ~Ioth has been manufactured not aOQl& to liitCll to what YO.U say. Wby 10" tbere for tile last tb~ yearl and tb~ workers t;oo is not beina taken un_ tho, I ....trial are 00 the roads. t only want to k.now wa-~ Dovelopment ao~1at~ ~,or 10"''' 3S Short Nollce Question MAY 16, 1985 Short Notice Question 36

Disputes Act to see that the management of [Trans lat ions] this mill is taken over? You need not na­ tionalise it but the management of the mill SHRI T. ANJIAH : This I have alserdy should be taken over and production resu­ made clear to you that the management is med. Why is it not being done? continuously violating ••• (Interrupt ion,)

,[Translation] SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : Put them in jail .•. (Interrupt ions) SHRI T. ANJIAH: The management is SHRI T. ANJIAH: I am not in charge facing prosecution and a Court of Inquiry of the Home Department only the Labour for closing down the weaving section .. Ministry is under me .•• ( Interruptions) (IntertuptionJ) The report is avaiJable with us. I had told YOll that the question of take SHRT BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Why over is not within the purview of the Labour did you admit the question ••• (lnterruption.~) Ministry. However, we shall recommend it to the Textiles Mini~try. We shall insist on SHRI T. ANJlAH : You have also dealt takeover if no compromise is reached. There with th is Department. is need to take action against such manage­ ments. It is just possible that that the mana­ SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: That gement may not listen to it. In that case, is why I an telling you that you have got the action w;U be taken, and only then they will mearuses and you can use them. learn a lesson, A full report in this regard is with the Textiles Ministry. It is being exami­ SHRI T. ANJIAH : We are prepared to ned what action can be taken on that. The . pay attention and to take action. We shall Finance Miniskr h1d allio hinted at it during force the management some how to contin ue this Budget Session. We want to take action to run these departments. In case they do keeping fully in view the crisis that has not .•• (Interrupt ions) struck the workers. Jt is a Inattcr of time [English] now. The Delhi Administration is dealing with it. When they refer it •• (Interruptions) SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : I hope It has been recommended to the Texiles that they are not lollipaps. Ministry. I do not have the report on the outcome of the talks held with them. T}1e [Translaf ion] Textile Minister is not present here. It is necessary to talk to him. The required action SHRI T. ANJIAH : We shall let you will be taken. know within two months, in the next session . .. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI LAL1T MAKEN: You take over SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: Sir, I the mill in the next session ... (Interruptions) want to know specifically and straight. 10 spite of the fact that six months bcfore the SHRI T. ANJIAH : We shall get it done Labour Commissi('flcr of Delhi Administra­ if it is in my power to do ~o ... (Interruptions) tion gave them direct.ion to start the weaving [Engli.'Ih] department. they have written back unequi­ vocally that hwe sha II not run it". I want to SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : After know whose writ runs - that of Government to months, no lollipops. And when it will of India or that of Mr. BirJa··~in this country be taken over? That is what we want to because inspite of heing reminded not to do, k.now. they are closing on~ department after the other. They have reduced the labollr strength SHRI S. JAJPAL REDDY: The total from 6000 to 4000. They have the ultimate strength of the workers in the Birla mills as . intention of driving out the others and keep on 1-1-82 was 6,000; t:xiayit is 4,000. I only I SOO. So, who is stronger '7 Apart from would like to put one specific question to the tbe sweet words of the Minister, let him tell Labour Minister. ",,'hat relief was provided how do they work? Is it that their writ does to these 2~OOO workers who have been eased not work with the Birlas in this country,,! out in various dabious ways in the last How is it that we want to know. 3 years 1 31 Short Notice. Quesllon VAlSAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD : We whether they have been thrown out forcibly, want pin-pointed statement. forced to seek retirement and whether any compen')ation was given to them or not ••• [Translation} (Interruption.f) But, according to the report which we have received, 240 porsons have SHRI T. ANJIAH: I have already told retired in the normal course and over I,SOO you that some workers reti red in the norma) persons have taken voluntary retirement. course. Their number is 240 and some other workers had sought voluntary retirement .•. SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: 2,000 (Interruptions) The number of the workers workers were nlade to retire within two who had taken voluntary retirement is 1570. years ... (Interrupt iOlls)

(Interruptions) SHRI T. ANJIAH : We are looking into itt we are enquiring into the nlatter. [Enelish] SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Workers have been thrown out. We want specific WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS assurance from the Minister. 2,000 people are thrown out. [Translatio,,)

Development of Social and Women '8 [Trans lat ion] Welfare Organisations SHRI T. ANJIAH: The report with us *881. DR. B. L. SHAILESH : Will the indicates that 1570 workers have gone on Minister of SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S voluntary retirement. We do not have report WELFARE be pleased to state : to the effect that they were forced to seek voluntary retirement. (a) whether the Ministry has recently issued some instructions to State Govern­ (Interrupt ions) ments regarding the development of social and women's welfare organisations; and [English] SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: 2,000 peo­ (b) if so, the details thereof and reaction ple are thrown out. of State Government thereto?

MR. SPEAKER: He has got the infor­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mation. He has given the information. MINISTRY OF SOCJAL AND WOMEN"S WELFARE: (SHRIMATI M. CHANDRA­ He cannot give you wrong information. SEKHAR) : (a) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. [Trans/at ion) [English] SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: AU Workshop at Mokamela this is wrong. Nowhere has this happened. *883, SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA [English] Will the Minister of RA1LW A YS be pleased to state: MR. SPEAKER : It could have been the other way. (a) whether it is a fact that before Mokameh Bridge came into being, ferry [Trans lot iOI1] system was prevalent at Mokameh where a very big dock with workshop was working SHRJ LALIT MAKEN : They were under the Railways to undertake the repair beaten up and were forcibly thrown out .•• work for ferries and it engaged a large num· (Interrupt ions) ber or workers who are still working· there ; SHRI T. ANJlAH: We are also giving (b) whether Government have ordered thought to the information which we have to stop expansion and further development received from you and we sball enquire of the sa id workshop dock. ; aDd It MAY '16, 1985

(c) wheth~r there is any lik.elihood of articles. like egs; fisb, ,IemoM eta. from r~~enchqlent oi l~bQurers in the said work .. Andh ra Pradesh to Howrab. ba6 lleOeRtiy .bqp in the ncar future 1 been red uced drastically ;

THe MlN1STER OF RA1LWAYS (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (SallI BANSl LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) whether it is a fact that many (b) Yes, Sir. wagons are being diverted for carrying luxllry items? (C) N~ Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB [ Trans/ation] MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI F •• T,aia Between Ayodhya and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) Mlababad Yes, Sir. Due to seasonal demand for move­ ment of mango traffic from Andbra PraOesh *886. SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI: Will to Delhi, there was temporary difficulty in the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to movement of fish, eggs, etc. to Howrah. st~\e : (c) No, Sir. (a) whether Government have received any request for introduction of a fast train Restoration of Train Services between Ayodhya and Allahabad. Between Thane and Bomba)' V.T. (b) if so, the action taken thereon; ·888. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT (~) whether Government are aware that Will the Minister of RAlLWAYS be pleased the erstwhile fast train 'Saryu Express' on to state: this route was withdrawn; and (a) whether Central Railway was runn­ (d) if so, the reasons therefor? ing trains between Thane and Bombay V. T, which have been ca~lled ; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the reasons therefore ;, and

(b) Due to inadequate terminal facilities (c) whether a proposal to restore tbe at Ayodhya and Allahabad. it is not opera­ train services is under consideration of tbe tionally feasible to introduce an ad~ itional Government ? train. THE MIN1STER OF RAILWA'YS (c) Yes, Sir. (SHRI BANSl LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. Some (d) In 1972 one of the three passenger of the commuter trains have boen r04uood. trains bt:tween Allahabad and Faizabad was (b) Due to shortage of Electric Multiple converted into a Express train by withdraw­ U oi t coaches. ing stoppages. Since this was resented by the users, th~ Sf.Ole was rest9red to run as (c) No, Sir. a passenaer train. Irrigation f~acilities in Tribal Areas of Orissa

Supply of Wagons by S.C, R Iy. for *889. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANOQ ; Traolportatlon 01' Perishables fron. Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND ADdhra -Pradesb to Howrab POWER be pleased to state:

·887. SMRlIN,DRAJlT GUPTA: Will (a) whether his Ministry bas i$Sued tbe Minister of ,RAIL WAYS be pleased to guidelines to the Government of Orissa to ..tc : increase the irrigation potential in tdbal (a) whether complaints have been recei­ areas of that State as the irrigation racilities W4 that the number df parcel wagons (VPs there are much less than in otber ....as ; atKI ViPUs) ptcwided by the South Central and Railway authorities for perishable food (b) if so, the details thereof 1 41 VAISAKHA 26, 1901 (SAKA) Written .Nt8Wefi 42

THE MJ-NfST!R. OF I'RR'lGATION (c) if not. the reasons therefor '! ~ND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA· NAND) : (a) and (b). To augment irr;gation THE MINISTER OF lRRIGATION f~ilities in Tribal Areas, the Government of AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA. lndia had suagested to the State Government NAND) : (a) and (b). There is a proposal in 1982 to prepare a Master Plan of irriga­ for modernisation of the Canal system of tion in tribal areas covering inter-alia the the Hirakud Project at an estimated cost of foUowiD8 aspects :- about Rs. 33 crores. Jt envisages restoration of canals to their design sections, lining of (i) Harnessable water-resources for canals in selected reaches, construction of development in tribal sub-plan additional cootrol structures and improve .. areas including flow irrigation ment to canal service roads. (Major, Medium and Minor) lift (c) Does not arise. irr~ption and ground water deve­ lopment; Elnironmental Poll utiol) in tbe Capital (ii) status of prescnt irrigation in the due to Eftlucllce Eoiitted by Surface regions and utilisation of wa ter Transport resources for the future; *891. SHRI K. PRADHANI : (iii) existing land use pattern and pro­ SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: jected pattern of land in the tribal sub-plan; Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRAN SPOR T be pleased to state : (iv) present cropping pattern, proposed cropping pattern and the benefit (a) whether a study has been conducted likely to accrue to triba I families; recently by Governn1ent to assess the extent of impact of effluence emitted by the surface (v) command area development aspect transport on the environment in the Capital and the requirement of machinery (Delhi/New Delhi); and staff; (b) if so, the details thereof; (vi) reha,bilitation programme in case the triba)s are likely to be displaced. (c) the measures proposed to be taken Attempts should also be made to to save the Capital city from pollution caused locate alternative land in tbe com­ by vehicles? mand area of irrigation project proposed to be constructed; THE MIN1STER OF STATE Of THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS .. (vii) development of land and field PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) Yes, Sir. channels should form part of each irrigation project and invest­ (b) The Repon has not yet been finaliud ment on these items should form by Indian Institute of Technology, Delhj who total cost of the project; conducted this study.

(viii) a programme with time schedule (c) Delhi Administration has been asked for implementation of . irrigation to amend 'the relevant Rules under the Motor projects and financial requirement Vehicloi Act, 1939, to incorporate emiasjon may be clearly indicated. standards.

Power Prejec's With .'orelgn ~rRiiatioD of Hi...... ud Dam Assistance *890. SHItI SRI BALLA V PANIORAHI: *892. SHRI B. V. DESAI : WtlJ the Minifitcr of IRRIGATION ,AND PClWBR. be pleuod to state : SHRI DEBI GHOSAL : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (8) wbether tbere is any proposal for POWEll be pleased to state : . modernisation of Hirakud 'Dam Project; whether Government ptopoie to start (b) -it so," die -detaih"thereof; and at leaat four bydel and tbetmal -pow. 1Iat'. 43 Written Answer~ MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 44

ions with foreign assistance; (a) whether Government have a proposa' for further expansion of Balimeia Power (b) whether any foreign countries have Project in Orissa; agreed to help these projec ts; (b) if so, the amount proposed to be (c) if SOt the details of the same; and spent on the expansion of Balimela Power Project; (d) by what time the l1nal decision in this regard is likely to be taken? .. (c') whether the expansion programme of THE MJNISTER OF lRRIGATION the ahove project is going to be taken up AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ in 1985 -86; and NAND) (a) to (d) : Some hydel and thermal projects arc under consideration for imple­ (d) if so, the steps taken in this matter? mentation but the source and pattern of funding have not been decided. It has been THE MJ.NISTER OF IRRIGATION proposed to set up Trombay TPS (Unit VI), AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ Farakka Stage II, Chandrapur TPS and NAND) : (a) No, Sir. Sardar Sarovar multipurpose Project with (b) to (d) ; Does not arise. World Bank assistance. Ramagundam Stage II with assistance from Saudi Arabia, Anpara Local Purcbase of Ayurvedic Medicines B with Japanese assistance and Kaha)gaon by CGHS Dispensaries with Soviet assistance. 6833. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN .. Development of Parlldip Port During DAL : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 1985-86 FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state;

*893. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: (a) the guidelines laid down for the locaJ Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND purchase of Ayurvcdic medicines by the Medi­ TRANSPORT be pleased to state: cal Officers Incharge of Ayurvedic CGHS Dispensaries in the Capital and elsewhere; (a) the amount aJlocated for the Paradip Port during 1985-86; and (b) whether the indents are placed on (b) the specific measures proposed to be some selected suppliers and if so, whether taken for the development of Paradip Port any panel is maintained and how these during 1985-86 ? suppliers are selected; (c) whether Government are aware that THE MlNISTER OF STATE OF THE monopoly supply is -being entrusted to one MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ or two suppliers resulting in their supplying PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) An the medicines after a lapse of 2·3 weeks and amount of Rs. 23.85 crOfes have been allo­ that too at times poor and subwstandard cated in the Annual Plan 1985-86. stuff;

(b) The third General Cargo Berth has (d) whether there is an endemic shortage recently been completed. The fertiliser berth of ayurvedic medicines in the COBS dispen­ is expected to be completed by October. 1985. saries particularly in the closing and beginn­ These projects would augment Port's capacity ing months of a year; and by 0.25 million tonnes for handling general cargo and 1,20 million tonnes for handling (e) the steps being taken to maintain fertiliser raw materials respectively. Besides, proper stock and improve the quality of this, dredging has also been taken up to medicines supplied to the Dispensaries? maintain the designed draught of the Port round the year. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND Balimala Power Project FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) to (e). Local purchase of *894. SHRI SOMNATH· RATH : Will of Ayurvedic medicines is made from Jocal the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER Chemists appointed for the purpose in case of De ploued to state: non-availability of listed items in Ayurvcdic; 45 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SARA) Written Answers 46

store or if non listed items are prescribed by Bengal had been provided with a ,total of the Specialist. The appointment of locaJ Rs. 25.. 72 lakhs during 1983-84 and 1984-85. chemists are made by inviting appl ications through Press advertisement and the Chemi­ RefrJgeratlon Facility In CGHS sts quoting lowest service charges are appoin­ Dispensaries in Deihl ted as Local Chemists. There is no instance of supply of any Subwstandard drug. Howe­ 6835.' SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL ver, there has been some occassional delays Will the Minister or HEALTH AND in supply of medicines for which the defaul· FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: ting Chemists have been suitably cautioned. (a) the number of CGHS dispensaries, alongw ith location in Delhi/New Delhi Assistance of State Governments for where Government have provided refrigera­ Patrolling to National Highways. tio!"} facility but the refrigerators are lying out of order; and 6834. SHRT BHOLA NATH SEN: "'ill the Min ister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ (b) by what date Government propose PORT be pleased to state: to get all such refrigerators repaired in CGHS dispensaries? (a) whether Government have granted assistance to the State Governments during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Sixth Plan period for patrolling of Natio­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI nal Highways; and YOGENDRA MAKW ANA) : (a) The required information is given in the enclosed (b) if so, the details thereof particularly Statement. the details of the schemes received/approved for financial assistance for patrolling of (b) All the Medical Officers Incharge Nationa 1 Highways in West Bengal? have been authorised to get these repaired through the manufacturer/supp1ier / distributor THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and. in case of their reluctance, to get these MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ repaired from any flrm in accordance with PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) and (h,. the prescribed formalities. The National Highway Patrolling Scheme had been launched, as a pilot project, on Statement five selected sectors of National Highways viz. Delhi-Chandigarh (NH-l), Ahmedahad­ Names of rite CGHS Dispensaries Surat (NH-8), Bombay-Kolhapur (NH-4), where Refrigerators are lying Oul 0/ Madras-Dindigul (NH-45) and Calcutta­ order Durgapur (NH-2). These sectors were identi­ Timarpur fied keeping in view the heavy traffic density -I. and accident-proneness. The scheme envisages 2. Subzi Mandi setting up of Traffic-Aid-Posts at an appro­ 3. De1hi Cantt. ximate distance of 50-60 Kms. Each Traffic­ KastuJ ba Nagar-) Aid-Post has been entrusted with the respon­ 4. sibility to patrol the assigned area and as 5. Laxmibai Nagar and when any mishap occurs, to flash the 6. Moti Bagh-l news, to render first-aid medical assistance 7. R. K. Puram-I to the victims, to remove the injured to the nearest medical centre, to remove the vehicle 8. Srinivaspuri from the road and ensure uninterrupted flow of trafflc. Recognition to Ahbinav Arogya .l\fahavidyalay, Pune Fin1\ncial assistance is provided by the Central Government to cover the expenses 6336. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will of equipment, and also for initial year's ex­ the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY penses on Traffic-Aid-Post personnel. For WELFARE be pleased to state : implem~nting Highway Patrolling Scheme on Calcutta-Durgapur sector with four Traffic­ (a) whether Government are aware of the Aid-Posts~ the State Government of West existence of th~ AbhiolV Arogya !daba .. 47 W,iUt'n An.fWerS MAY 16, 1985 Writ/en AIt8W~, 48

vldyalaya (Dnyaneshwar Vidyapeeth Medical LoIS to Delhi Elecwie Supplr College), Pune; Vader takiag

6838. SHRI E. S. M. (b) the aims and objects of the above PAltEmt, Institution; MOHAMED: Will the Minister of ItUttGA,a TJON AND POWER be pleased to state; (c) the number of medical students (a) whether it is a fact that Delhi Eleetrit studying in this Institution; Supply Undertaking is suffering huge losses and if so, the tota I losses incurred durin, (d) whether it is a recognised institution the last lhrec years; and if nott whether Government woulcl consi- . d~r according rccogn ition in view of the new (b) whether any remedial steps have been policy of Government for establishing open taken or proposed to be taken by Govern­ universities; and ment in the matter; and (e) whether til) such recognition is (c) if so, the details thereof? accordeq, Government would consider allow­ ing medical students of the Institute of take THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the examination to save them from frustra­ DEPARTMEMT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN tion in life in this year of the youth? NEHRU) : (a) The losses of DESU in tIM ]ast 3 years amount to Rs. 276 crores. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (b) and (c). DESU has augmented its YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) No. Sir. tariff in order to make its operations viable. (b) to (e). Do not arise. Funds Allotted/Spent for Healtb aDd Regularlsa ti on of Power load to Family Welfare Progrdmme in West Industrial Units in Delhi Bengal during Sixth Plan

6837. SHRl NIHAL SINGH: Will the 6839. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS Minister of lRR1GAT10N AND POWER MUNSI : Will the Minister of HEAL1H be pleased to state: AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that the P. U. C. Industrial Units in Delhi have applied for (a) the actual funds allotted for Health the regularisation of Load on the basis of ad and Family Welfare Programme for Welt hoc Municipal Licence in the year 1982~ Bengal in Sixth Plan and how much bave been spent till March, 1985; and (h) whether it is also a fact that the cases have not been regulariscd since 1983 to (b) number of Primary Health Cent.... date on one pretext or the other; and existed during the end of 5th Plan in W.. Bengal and number of the same at present? (c) the time hy which these wilt he regu­ larised ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SURl THE MINISTER or ST ATE IN THE YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) The Plann­ DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN ing Commission had approved an outlay or NEHRU) : (a) Yes, Sir. Rs.. 84.00 crores for Health Sector Pro­ grammes in West Bengal for the '6th Five (b) Cases of applicants who have not Year Plan period of 1980-85. The like)y fulfilled the prescribed conditions have not expenditure is reported to be Rs. 94.97 crores been regulariscd. during the same period.

(c) A definite time frame cannot be (b) The number of Primary Health stip.uJated as reaularisation follows fulfilment Centres in West Benpl was 316 oa L4.1~79 of p.._ribod conditions by the applicant. and tbi& increased to 357 as 00 1.4.198,S~ 49 VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) so

Guidelines/Criteria for Allocation of (c) Government',s reaction thereto? FWJds Under State Roads of Inter.. State 01" Ecoaomk I~tance THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS SdJeme (SHRI BANS! LAL) ~ (a) No. Sir. 6840. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES .. (b} Does not arise.. W ARA RAO : Will the Minister of SHIP.. PING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to (c) Does not arise. state the auic1elin:s!criteria followed in the matter of allocation of funds under the III'Yestmeat made in Sta te Road Transport central-aid programme of State roads of Corpora tiOIlS Inter-State 'Or Economic Importance Scheme 6842. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will to different States ? the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE POR T be pJeased to state : MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) ; Allocation (a) whether his Ministry have fllade any of funds to the Cent~ai)y aided programme investment in different State Road Transport. for State Roads under Inter-State or &000- Corporations as share capital; nlic Jmportance Schemes to different Statc~ depends upon ~ (b) if so, the amount of investment made by the Ministry in djfferent State Road (a) the operative sanction for loaR; Transport Corporations during the last three years~ and (b) total funds alrea-dy released; (c) tbe overall availability of budget {c) the details thereof? provision for the purpose; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) the expenrliture incurred by the State MINiSTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ (J()vernment initially a'S also the capacity of PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) to (c). the State Government to incur the expendi~ Under Section 23(1) of Road Transport ture. Corporation Act, 1950, the Central Govern­ ment and State Governments provide capital Memorandum from Bibar daily contribution to different State R<>ad Trans­ Passengers A~soci8tion port Corporations in the ratto of 1:2. The work relating to disbursement of capital con­ 6841. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV: tribution was transferred to this Ministry Wil1 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleast!d we.f. 1.4.83. An amount of Rs. 180,39,8H, to state! 534.00 was invested by the Ministry of Rail·· (a) whether Bihar Daily Passengers Asso­ ways upto 31 3.83 and during 1983·84 'and an amount of ciation submitted a memorandum on 3 April, 1984-85 Rs. 38.50 crores and Rs. 41,.4() crores were invested by this Minis­ 1985 to the Divisional Railway Manager, try, respectivcly. A statemellt 8ivins detail5, Danapur Division, Eastern Railway; of investment made in each State Road (b) if &0, what are their demands: and Transport Corporalioo is attached.

Statement

Name of the lnvestment upto Investment durina Investment during SI. No. Corporation 31-3-83 as made 1983~84. 19'84 .. 85. by Ministry of Railways. I 2 3 4 5

1. A:ndhra Pradesh 33,70,97,661 OS,99,02,{)()O 5,17,81,000 SRTC 2. Assam SRTC 4,53,74,500 1,17,88,400 · . MAY 16.198' W'ilf~n Am,.",., 52

J 2 J 4 5

3. Bihar SRTC 10,14,65,000 1,00,.65,000 1,26,08,400 4. Gujarat SRTC 35,28,37,92' 10,44,83,000 5,38,21,000 S. Himachal Pradesh 5,68,43,000 86,76,500 83,68,000 SRTC 6, Jammu & Kashmir 1,31,53,000 1,66,47,000 , 1,36,67,700 SRTC 7. Karnataka SRTC J2,53,40,375 4,10,61,000 6,05,3) ,500 8. Kerala SRTC 10,96,88,000 95,79,000 1,72,67,400 9. Madhya Pradesh 14,81,12,503 2,66,59,000 2,73,35,400 SRTC 10. Maharashtra SRTC 16,65,11,398 3,49,91,000 8,35,25,800 J1. Manipur SRTC 1,92,25,000 26,25,000 26,00,000 12. Mcghalaya SRTC 2~O5,32,OOO 52,50,000 60,00,000 13. Orissa SRTC 2,54,17,000 1,26,80,000 2,50,23,800 14. Pepc;u RTC 7,28,49,406 2,25,37,000 ) ,70,84,600 t 5. Rajasthan SRTC 9,08,81,000 91,44,000 39,50,000 16. Tripura SRTC 1.97,32.000 34,41,500 30,00,000 17. Uttar Pradesh 16.13,91,000 1,02,59,000 3,56,50,000 SRTC 18. North Bengal SRTC 2,70,01,500 19. Mysore SRTC 5,29,269

------~----~-----.... - - ~-- .- -... Grand Total 189,39,88,534 38,50,00,000 4 J,40,00,000

Shortfall of Power in the Sixth Plan Name of Project No. of units period in West Bengal Qnd capac i t Y 6843. SHRI BIMAL KANTI GHOSH: ] . Kolaghat Thermal 2X210 MW Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Project POWER be pleased to state : 2. Durgapur Projects lXllOMW (a) whether there has been heavy short­ Ltd. Unit·6 fall in the achievement of the target for 3. Ramman Hydro­ 4 X 12.5 MW increasina the power generating capacity of electric Project. West Benpl durin, the Sixth Five Year Plan period; (c) The main causes for shortfall are delay in project implementation, disturbed (b) if so, the details thereof; and industrial relations, unfavourable geological (c) what are the main causes for such conditions etc. shortfalls ? AliotmeDt of Plots of land to Shopkeepers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Railway Colonies DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN 6844. SHRI NARAYAN. CHOUBEY: NEHRU) : (a) and (b). During Sixth Five Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Year Plant 778 MW additional capacity was to state: commissioned in West Bengal in the State Sector qainc;t target of 1368 MW. The details (a) whether Government had allotted of projects which slipped to Seventh Plan plots of land in various Railway colonies to are indicated below: shop-keepers on suitable terms. 53 VAfSAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) 54

(b) whether at present &Deb allotment THE MINSTER OF STATE IN THE ha ve been stopped; DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRl YOGENDRA MAKWANA: (a) No, Sic.. (c) jf so, tbe reasons therefor; (b) Does Dot arise. (d) whether Govern.ment are aw-sre of il1egal encroachments on Railway land taking place at many pla-ces; (English] (e) whether Government are -contempla.. Steps taken to check priotieg or Fake ting of any new policy for allotment of rail .. Railway Tkketi way land to the needy persons; and 6846. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: (f) if so, the detail1 thereof 1 Will the Minister of RA1LWAYS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS '(SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes.. Sir" (a) whether printing of a large number (b) Yes, Sir" of fake raitway tickets worth several Jakhs of rupees has ccme to notice of Government; (-c) Railway Reforms Committee revie­ and wed the question of land management and recommended that Railway land Development (tI) if so, what measures have been taken Authority should be set up for management by Government to prevent such cases in and cotnmercial exploitation of railway land. future ? The proposal for setting up the Railway Land Development Authority is bting pro­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS cessed. Meanwhile, it has been decided that (SHRI BANS) LAL) : (a) Yes., Sir. till such time, the policy for rational commer­ (b) The Railways have been asked to cia' utilisation of railway land is finalised ensure nipping of tickets at the entrance and and suitable organisation for Land manage­ exit gates at the stations and to intensify ment is set up, aU further temporary licensing thorough scrutiny of coll~ted tickets with a of land private individuals for the purpose to view to detect fake tickets. Further, the Anti .. of setting up shops, commercial offices, ven­ Fraud Squads of the Railways have been ding stalls, clinics etc. not connected with geared up for carrying out surpnse checks at Railway's working shou1d be stopped, the Booking Windows and the Exit Gates. (d) Yes. Sir" (e) The policy regardirrg allotment of Matching Grants to Non·Hlndi States Railway land to needy persons would be con­ Towards Sala ries of 1-1 indi lea('bers sidered aftee Land Development Authority i's set up. 6847_ SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA Will the Minister of EDUCATION bc2 (f) Does flot arise. pJeased to state :

(Translations) {a) whether Non-Hindi States are getting matching grants f'Or the payment 'Of salaries Setting up of Ayur'Yedica D i'spensaries to the teachers who are teaching Hindi in under C.G.H .S. in Meerut Division those SUites ~ 6845. SHRI DHARAMYIR SINGH: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND (h) tbe names of such States and the FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: details of matching grants aiven to e1Kh State annually; (a) whether Government propose to set up at least six Ayurvedic Dispensaries under (c) wMtber thost Stllt-es are not ~ei .. Central Government Health Scheme in each viog their grants regularly; district of Meerut Division; and (d) if so, wbether Govem1eflt have recei· (b) if so. the timt; by whicb these will ved any cOlnplaint in tbii rcaard, the details be set Up 1 thereof ; and 55 Wrillen Answtr3 MA Y 1.6, 1985 S6

(e) steps being taken to make the pay­ grants from the Minis.try of Education for ment of matching grant! to tho~e States the payment of salaries to Hindi teachers in regularly so tlun the teachers who are enga­ those States. Central assistance on 50:50 ged in teaching Hindi in those States get sharing basis is being sanctioned/released their pay reiularly ? tak ing into account the merits of the pro­ po~als received from the concerned State THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Governments/Union Territories. (SHRI K.C. PANT) : (a) to (e) Under the Scheme of uAppointment 01 Hindi Teachers 2. The names of the States/UTs and in Non-Hindi speaking S tates/UTs", Non­ details of matching grants given annually speaking States!lJTs are getting matching during the last three years are as under: (Rs. in lakhs)

51. 'No. Name of the State 1<)~2· 83 1983-84 1984-85

1. Assam 16.12 8.84 8.25 2. Andhra Pradesh 5.76 20.37 3. Gujarat 1.30 4. Nagaland 0.35 2.00 5. Orissa 1.27 9.22 8.89 6. Meghalaya 0.50 0.80 0.94 7. Manipur 2.67 3.1J - 8. Mizoratn 3.00 3.00 15.24 ' ,~. -~--~.-~-- ,_- --.,...._ ...... -----...... -....._

3. It may be seen from the above details YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. that some of the States!U.Ts such as Orissa Three Regional Field Survey Units have been Mcghuluya, M izoram ctc. art receiving their set up at Patna, Bangalore and Bhubaneswar grants regularly during the last three years. so far, under the scheme of strengthening If payment to any State is not made during health information and monitoring system 11 particular financial year due to the rising (now renamed as evaluation and survey). demand on this scheme, efforts are made to These units are being set up in a phased meet the balance grant in the next financial manner. year. In this process it is possible that dis­ (b) and (c) A feasibility study on "Health bursement of salaries may occassionally be survey in tri bal and Non-tribal villages" was delayed in some States. However. no com­ conducted in few selected villages of Orissa plaints have been received in this regard. and Karnataka. Except for common disea­ Health Condition Survey of Tribal ses like fever and common cold and skin and Weaker Section People diseases, no other permanent disease was detected during this study. A network of 6848. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : primary health centres supported by village Will the Minister of HEALTH AND health guides is being set up in tribal and FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: rural areas.' Besides~ the implementation of programmes for control of communicable (a) whether it is a fact that health field diseases, research on diseases to which survey units have been set up by Govern­ scheduled castes and tribes are generaUy ment in various States to undertake health prone, opening of dispensaries/hospitals of conditions survey of tribal population and ISM and Homoeopathy have been taken up. other \\'eaker sections; , Mobile units are also being provided where (b) if so, the findinp thereof; and considered necessary. (c) the steps being taken to solve the Dieselisation or Mail/Express Trains problem? 6849. PROF. NARAlN CHAND THE MINISTER OF STATE INTHE PARASHAR: Will the Minister of R.AIL­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI WAY S be pleased to stato : 57 Wrlll~n Answer, V AISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) S8

(a) whether any exact programme of Railways are proceeding on the assumption progressive dieselisation of Mail/Express that the level of freight traffic in the termi­ trains bas been drawn up by the Railway nal year of the 7th Plan may reach 350 Board/Zonal Railways for each year of tbe million tonnes compared to about 264 million Seventh Five Year Plan; tonnes lifted in 1984·85 (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) Depending on the Plan allocation (c) jf not, whether' such a programme is modernisation of the equipment will b; proposed to be drawn up and Mail/Express given priority in the 7th Plan. trains which are the only trains for certain States /Regions is proposed to be given due priority; Entitlement for Treatment in Nursing Home of Ram Manobar Lohia (d) if not, the reasons therefor and the Hospital mode of selection for dieseHsation of Mail/ Express trains at present being followed by 6851. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: the Railway Board 'Zonal Railway; and Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pl4!ased to state: (e) the details about the trains dieselised (a) the category of Government officers during the past three years ? entitled for treatment in and adnlission to THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Nursing Home of Ram Manohar Lohia (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. Hospi tal, New Delhi; and

(b) Does not arise. (b) what specific guidelines have been issued by Government in this regard? (c) and Cd) Dieselisation of long distance overcrowded Mail/Express trains is being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE done on a selective basis having regard to DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI availability of diesel locomotives which are YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) and (b) primarily required for clearance of essential Central Government employees whose. pay is freight traffic. over Rs. 750/-p.m. are entitled for treatment in and admission to Nursing Home of Dr. (e) 4R passenger carrying trains were Ram Manohar Lohia Hospital. diesc1ised in 1982-83, 79 in 1983-84 and 52 in 1984-85 on the Indian.Railways. Power Production in West Bengal Assessment Regarding Freight During 6852. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: Seventh Plan Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: 6850. SHRI JAGANNATH PAT- NAIK :Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (a) power production capacity increased pleased to state : in West Bengal'during the period 1972 .. 77 ; (a) whether Government have made any (b) power production capacity increased assessment regarding the freight traffic during in West Bengal during the period 1978 -198 5; Seventh Five Year Plan Period; and (b) whether a massive rise in the freight traffic is'"being anticipated during the Seventh (c) what are the details of (a) and (b) 1 Five Year Plan Period; and THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether adequate provision of funds DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN has been made to modernise the existing NEHRU) : (a) and (b) In West Bengal, a equipments during the same perjod ? power generating capacity of 250 M W was added during the period 1972·77 and 1010 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS MW (excluding 210 MW unit'" of Durppur (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b) The under DVC) during the period J978-85. freight traffic projections for the 7th Five Y car Plan have not been finalised. but tbc (c) Octaill of tb1s capacity are :- MAY 16, 1985 WrtttM .t4n1wers 60

1972·77 Capacity (MW) (a) whether the Uttar Pradesh Govern­ ment has approached the Centre for iunds to (0 Jaldhaka 9 meet the escalating cost of the Tehri Dam (ii) Little Ranjit 1 Project and to complete it; and (iii) Santaldih 120 (b) if so, the quantum of funds asked (iv) Santaldih.. 11 120 for and Government's reaction thereto '1

Total 250 MW THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) and (b) : The State Govern .. ment has proposed implementation of Tehri 1978-..8.5 Dam Project as a joint venture between Government of India and Government of (i) Rinchington 2 U ttar Pradesh~ sharing the cost of the power (ii) Santaldih III 120 component of the project in the ratio of (iii) Gas Turbines tOo 75:25 respectively. The modalities in this regard are in progress. (iv) Bandel 210 (v) Titagarh (CESC) 60 Over-Bridges at Vengalam and (vi) Jaldhaka 8 Cborode Level Crossings (vii) Titagarh (CESC) ) 20 6855. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAM .. (viii) SantaJdih IV 120 CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of RAIL­ WAYS be pleased to state : (ix) Titagarh (CESC) 60 (x) Kolaghat 210 (a) whether Government are considering to construct over-bridges at Vengalatn and Total 1010 MW Chorode level crossings in Calicut district and Nadal and Chovva in Cannunore district; and Construction of a Byepass Road in Bhimavaram, Andbra Pradesh (b) if so, the details thereof?

6853. SHRI VIJAYA KUMAR RAJU: THE MINISISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANS} LAL) : (a) : No, Sir. WifJ the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) : Does not arise.

(a) whether it is a fact that Government [Translation) have agret'd to defray;O per cent and the Government of Andhra Pradesh 50 per cent Stoppage of Delhi-Varanasi Ganga­ of the cost for the construction of a bye­ Jamon8 Express at Haideraarh pass road in Bhlmavaram, Andhra Pradesh; Railway Statior. and 6856. SHRI ~ KAMLA PRASAD (b) if so, the steps taken by Government RAW AT : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS to construct this bye-pass road '? be pleased to State:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether Ganga-Jamuna Ex.press does MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ not stop at Haidergarh Railway Station while PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) No, Sir. operating from Delhi to Varanasi via Luck­ now but it stOPi at Haidergarh Railway Sta­ (b) Does not arise. tion on its journey from Varanasi to Delhi; (b) if so, whether Government propose Tebri Dam Project to provide a stoppage of the train at Haider­ 68S4. SHRl RAM SAMUJHAW AN ~ garh Railway Station while Boing from Delhi Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND to V aranasi ; and . POWER be pleased to Slate : (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? 61 W,lt,en A1I8we" VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Wrltld A1UMr4 62

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS interval of ten years, which falls on 31. 3. (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir; 1988. There is also no proposaJ (or conver­ sion of this section. (b) Yes, Sir. (e) Does not arise. (c) Does not arise. Promotion of J977 Batch of [English) GDO Grade-II Nationalisation and Conversion of A.K. (N.G.) Section 6858. SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. SIDDIQ : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND 6857. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA : Will FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state. the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) whether the 1977 batch of G.D O. Grade-II Medical Officers in the C.G.H.S. (a) whether his Ministry are aware of recruited through the UPSC have not so far withdrawal of goods booking, minimisati')n been promoted to G.D.O. Grade-I; of bogie coaches to 3/4 and worn out/bad track condition and absence of connective (b) if so, the reasons therefor and their trains with AMP (B.G.) train in A.K. (N.G.) stagnancy for the last few years in G.D.O. Section on Ea stern Railway; Grade-II; and

(b) if so, the reason tberefor; (c) whether Government propose to consider the desirability of 11aving a cadre (c) whether there is any proposal under review to ensure thlJt these Medical Officers Government's consideration for the closure recruited through UPSC and who have put of this A.K. Section; in more than seven years of service are pro­ (d) if not, whether there is any proposal moted to G.D.O. Grade-I and if not, the for nationalisation of this A.K. (N.G.) Sec­ reasons thereof ? tion and conversion of this N .G. Section in­ THE M1N1STER OF STATE IN THE to Broad Gauge for development of the DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI backward areas; and YOGENDRA MAKWANA) (a) and (b) : (e) if so, the details thereof? Out of 166 Officers recruited on the basis of 1977 batch, 49 Medical Officers, which incJu­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS des 38 Officers belonging to SIC and SjT (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) and (b) As per category, have so far been pron1oted to extant policy, stations having a total goods G.D.D. Grade-I. Promotion to the G.D.O. earning (both inward and outward) of Jess Grade-I is Hnked with tbe number of vacan­ than Rs.25,OOO/- per annum, are closed for cies available in the Grade. The remaining goods traffic. Regarding coaches, there has Medical Officers of 1977 batch will be consi­ been no reduction in the number of coaches dered for promotion as soon as additional on trains to 3 or 4. As regards B.G. connecM vacancies become available in G.D.O. tion at Ahmedpur, suitable connections are Grade-I. available with the N.G. trains. Government (c) The last Cadre review of the CHS is aware that the tracks on this Company­ was completed in November, 1982. It is owned Railway are old. However, the tracks . rather early to have another Cadre review of are being satisfactorily maintained with cas­ eHS at this stage. ual renewals as required. Rosters For Group 'D' aad 'C' (c) No, Sir, Cadres in CGJIS. Madra. (d) No, Sir, this Railway though owned 6859. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM : Will by Private Company is worked and managed the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY by Eastern Railway since July. 1967. Accor­ WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) whether ding to the agreement entered in to with the it is a fact that tbe rosters at tbe time of owning Company, the Central Goyernment initial recruitmcntt promotion and at confir­ has an option to purchase tbe line at an mation sta#, are not maiotaioed ..ainst 63 Written An!wers MAY 16,1985 Written Answerl 64 gtoup 'D· and 'e· cadres in CGHS, Madras YOGENDRA MAK\VANA): (a) Most of and if so, the reasons therefor; the medicines including Polio drops ,etc. meant for small children are available in the tb) if maintained, cadre~wise details CGHS dispensaries in Delhi including Hauz thereof? Khas Dispensary;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Does not arise. DEVELOPMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b) : lEnglish] The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. Railway Project Pending Completion in West Bengal [Translation] 6861. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: Non-Availability of Polio Drops Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased In CGHS Dispensaries to state:

6860. SHRJ MOOL CHAND DAGA : (a) the numhel' of railway projects pen­ Will the Minister of HEALTH AND ding completion in West Bengal; FAMILY WELFARE be p1eased to state: (b) the amount actually sanctioned for (a) whether most of the medicines parti­ those projects for the year 1985-86; and cu1arly polio drops etc. meant for small children are not available for the last several (c) the time likely to- be taken to con1- plete the projects ? months in C.O.H.S. dispensaries inc111ding Hauz Khas of New Delhi; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANS] LAL): (a) 45. (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the steps taken by Government to remove this (b) A statement is atta("hed. shortage .! (c) Completion of the projects would THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE depend on the funds allotted in the comioi DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI years.

Statement (Figures in Crores 0/ Rs.) '------_.'-__ ._------SI. N arne of Project Outlay during Remarks No. 85-~6

2 3 4

A. New Lines 1. Howrah - Sheakhala (17 km) 0,0001 It has not been possible to commence work due to shor­ tage of resources. 2. Howrah-Amta!Champadanga (74 km) 0.10 Ph. 1- Santragachi -Bargachia (24 km) opened to traffic. 3. Budge Budge-Namkhana including 0.0001 Not cleared by Planning Lakshmikantpur-l(ulpi (100 km) Commission. 4. Eklakhi-Balurghat with extension from 0.50 Constraint of resources. Eklakhi-Malda Town (110 km) S. Tamluk-Diaba (88 kms) 0.0001 Not cleared by Planning Commission. B. Doubling, 1. Third line ootween Dankuni .. Cbandan" Last Block Section Kamar .. pur (lS km) kundu-Chandpur (7 km) in proaress. 65 Wrillen Answe,s VAISAKHA 26~ 1901 (S~KA) Wrltlen AlfIwers

1 2 3 4

2. Dum. Dum-Barasat (15.24 km) J.SO Completed aDd opened. Residual work in proaress. 3. Muri.. Bokaro (Ph. Ill) (13 kms) 1.00 4. Eklakhi-Kumedpur (42 km) O.SO Works. sanctioned recently. C. Road over/under Bridles 1. Construction of Jagannath Road over 10.00 Jacs .bridge 2 Construction of Road over bridge at 2S.00 lacs Work on approaches yet to MaIda be taken up by the State Government. 3. Construction of road over bridge at 20.00 lacs Plans and estimates are Jadavpur being finalised. 4. Construction of road over bridge at 15.00 lacs Serampur S. Construction of road over bridge at 15.00 lacs Belgaria 6. Construction of road over bridge at 5.00 lacs Plans and estimates are Sodepur being finalised. 7. Construction of road over bridge at 10.00 lacs State 'Government yet to Purulia finalise plans for road approaches and sanction the estimate.

D .. Other Works 1. Setting up new Divn1. office at Ma1da 0.41 Crs. Town

E. Workshops 1. Kanchrapara-Remodelling and moder- 3.15 ers. The work is expected to be nisation of Workshop Ph. I compJeted in 8S-86. 2. Lilluah-Modernisation of C&W Repair 0.51 Crs. The workshop has been in­ Workshop (Ph. II) cluded in the BudgOt 84 .. 8'. 3. Sonarpur-Extension of Maintenance 1.01 facility of EMU for Sealdah South Section. 4. Howrah-Bamangachi-Expansion of 0.40 ers. Diesel shed from 30 to 60 locos. ~. Bandel-Provision of EMU Car Shed. A token outlay has been provided duriol 85 ·86 due to constraint on fun"'. 6. Andal-Extension of Diesel Loco Sbed 0.40 from 20 to 50 shunters. 7. Asansol-Provision of a Diesel Loco A token outlay has been Shed to hold 80 locos. provided durin, 85·86 due to constraint on (uad8. 8. Maida-Sellin. up of Diesel 'Loco Shed 0.28 60 Locos. 67 Written AnswerS' MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 68,

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9. Kbaragpur - Modernisation of Work- 0.58 shop Ph. I 10. Kharagpur-Modernisation of Workshop 0.51 Included in Budget 85-86. Ph. II 11. Nimpura (Kharagpur)-Construction of Token outlay provided 60 Loco Diesel Shed. during 85 -86 due to cons.­ traint of funds. F. Electrical Works

1. Panskura-Proposed EMU Car Shed. 0.0001 2. Replacement of existing old and over- 0.0001 aged Remote Control System in Sealdah Dvn. by Modern Solid State equipment 23 Stations Ph. I G. Metro Projects 1. RTS from Dum Dum to Tollygunj 81 Part sections from Dum Dum (Metro Rly.) to Be)gachia and Esplanade to Bhowanipur have been conlmissioned in 84. The services are proposed to be extended from Bhowanipur to Tollyganj by Mar,' 8~. Subject to availibility of adequate funds the project is scheduled to be completed by end of 1989.

2. Circular Railway, Calcutta. 4.8 The project was provisjo~ nally cleared by the Plan~ ning Commission for inc1u~ sion in 84-85. Formal' approval from Planning Commission is await~d. H. Traffic Facilities 1. Bidhannagar Rd-Acquisition of land for 0.30 addl. facilities. 2. Addl. facilities on Chamagram-New 0.58 Ja1paiguri- Raninagar-New Bongaigaon section.

3. (a) Maida Town-Kumedpur section 1.00 remodelling of Old Maida and other traffic facilities.

(b) Kumedpur-New Jalpaiguri section~ Provo. of 2nd loop with Unidire~~ tional reception facilities at 3 stations. 4. Kumedpur-New Bongaigaon section 0,50 (a) Provo. of Tokenless Block working from Kumedpur to New Booaaigaon Le. 52 stns. Written Answers 69 VAISAKlIA'26. 1901 (SAKA) Writl~n Answen 70

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(b) Provo. of 2nd loop at 12 stations.

5. Sankrail-Acquisition of land for new 0.30 freight terminal facilities.

6. Sankrail-Provn. of 3 lines with OHE in 0.30 connection with proposed new good terminal. 7. Padmapukur-·Acquisition of land for 0.01 location of Coaching Terminal facility.

8. Haldia -·Panskura section augmentation 0.50 of section capacity.

I. S&T Works

1. Baodel-RRI (Replacelnent work) 0.76 Construction of Cabin Buil­ ding in progress. 2. Andal-RRI (Replacement work) 0.12 RRI Building is in progress. 3. Calcutta -Provision of integrated tele­ 0.50 The material is being pro- phone network in Calcutta area. cured. 4. Sitarampur- Control Cabin replacement 0.52 Materials received and RRI of Indoor and Outdoor signalling gears. Cabin Bldg. completed internal wiring works is in progress. 5. Provision of Railways own underground 0.25 telecom cable for communication and block circuiting in replacement of P&T Cable. (i) Adra-Anara-Chandil section (ii) Adra-Bhojudih--Jamadoba section.

Irregularities in FUnctioning of Railway THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Service Commission (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) to (d). The working of the various Railway R~cruitment 6862. SHRI P. MANIK REDDY: Will Boards (previously known as Railway Service the Minister of RAILWA YS be pleased to Commissions) is reviewed by the Railway stale: Ministry from time to time in order to briol about improvements in their fUDctioninl. (a) whether Government have since Certain irregularities in the conduct of a few inquired into the working of various Railway examinations by some Railway Recruitment Service Commissions during the last three years; Boards had come to the notice of the Govern· ment which were in the nature of ahera tion (b) whether there have been irregularities of marks, misplacement of answer-sheets. U$C on a mass sca1e in the functioning of Railway of unfair means by some candidates, leakage Service Commissions; of question papers etc. Action und~r the Disciplinary and Appeals Rules is invariably (c) if SOt nature of irregularities detected taken against the delinquent officials in con­ and complaints received in this regard; and sultation with the Central Vigilance Commi,­ sion, where necessary. Improvements in the (d) the action taken by Governmeo t functioning of the Railway RecruitmeDt against the persons found guilty and to im­ Boards are also brought about based on prove the functioning of these Commissions 1 experience pined. 71 MAV 16, 1985 Writttn AlINers 12

has declined during 1983-84 and 1984·85 as Setting up of Joint Hydel Projects by compared to 1982-83 as given below : Punjab ..ad Haryana

6863. DR. G. VIlAY A RAMA RAO: Year Total traffic handled Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (in million tonnes) POWER. be pleased to state : 1982-83 10-69 (a) . whether there is any proposal for 1983-84 10-47

setting up Joint Hydel Projects between 1984 p 85 10-34 Punjab and Haryana; and The average pre-berthing detention to (b) if so, the details thereof? vessels , both at Calcutta and Haldia, bas. registered a decline as against the increase 1D THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE turn round time of vessels at Calcutta. The DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI details are as under : ARUN NEHRU): (a) No. Sir. (Average pre-berthing detention (in days) (b) Does not arise. Year Calcutta Haldia Volume of Traffic at Calcutta Port 1982 .. 83 1.3 2.6 6864. SHRIMATI INDUMATI BHATT­ 1983-84 1.2 2.S ACHARYYA: Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased 1984-85 0.8 1.9 to state: Average turn-round time (in day,) (a) whether it is a fact that during 1982-83 13.8 7.0 1982-83 to 1984- 85, though the volume of 1983-84 14.5 7.4 annual traffic handled at Calcutta Port bas 1984-85 15.2 increased only marginally the average wait­ 6.1 ing time and actual turn round time of (c) The inter-port comparison of waiting ships has increased at a much higher rate; time, turn round time of vessels and volume (b) if so, the details thereof; of traffic handJed is not possible as these factors are dependent on size of the vessels, (c) the variation in the average waiting type of cargo bandIed, mechanical facilities period. actual turn round time and volume for handling slich cargo, capacity of ports of traffic handled at Culcutta Port during etc. the above period as compared to other major ports; (d) The pre-berthing detention of vessels at Calcutta Port, including Haldia, during the (d) the reasons for increase at higher last three years has shown a graduaJ decline. fate in the average waiting time and actual Regarding turn round time of vessels, there tum round time of ships at Calcutta Port was a marginal incr~ase at Calcutta in 1983-84 durina the above period; and 1984-85 as compared to 1982-83 Jargely due to increase in the idle time of vessels. (e) the steps taken or proposed to Idling was mostly at the vessels option; the accelerate the loading and unloading acti. main reason being non-availability of ready vlties at Calcutta Port; and export cargo. Other factors affecting the turn round time were disputed between owners and (0 tbe progress made in the matter? charterers Or owners and crew, slow clearance of cargo leading to congestion in sheds etc.

THE MINISTER. OF 5TATE IN THE At Haldia, the main impediment to better MINtSTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS .. turn round time of vessels and lower pre .. ,PORT (SHRI Z. R.. ANSARI) : (a) and (b). berlhiol detention is shortage of berths to I The volume of annual traffic bandied ~o. cater to the need of present traffk: of fertili­ at Calcutta, including Haldia Dock Complex, ters, cook in. wal, seneral calllo etc. VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written An,wers '74

(e) and (f). The steps taken to accelerate TION be pleased to sta te : loading/unloading activities at Calcutta and Haldia are as under : (a) whether there is a provision tbat University Grants Commission, can in special circumstances open new colleges in Calcutta: educationally backward areas for higher 1. 8 new Wharf and Yard cranes are educatjon; being installed. (b) the number of colleges opened by 2. Old mobile cargo handling equipment University Grants Commission in educa­ has been replaced in the Sixth Plan. tionally backward areas during the years 1983-84 and ] 984-85 and the locations 3. Acquisition of additional cargo hand­ thereof and their position at present; ling equipment has been proposed in Seventh Plan. (c) whether Commission will consider opening of a coJlege in educationally back­ Haldia : ward Basti Di~trict in Uttar Pradesh; and

1. Modification of mechan ieal coal hand­ (d) if so, by what time and if not, the -ling plant and conversion of mechanical reasons therefore? ore handling plant for coal handling are in progress. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) No, Sir. 2. Schemes for construction of general cargo berth and a second oil jetty have (b) Does not ariie. been included in the Seventh Plan. (c) No. Sir. 3. Heavy duty locomotives for handling (d) Does not arise. The UGC Act does export coal are being procured. not empower the Commission to establish universities and colJeges in the country. Statr Strength in the Directorate of National Institute of Communicable (English] Diseases, Delhi

6865. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK; Will Submergence of Land due to Bansagar the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Project WELFARE be pleased to sta te the total 6867. SHRI AZIZ QURESHI: Will the sanctioned strength of Upper Division Clerks Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be and Upper Division CJerks-cum-Computors pleased to state : in the Directorate of National Institute of Communicable Diseases, Delhi as on the 1st (a) what was the total number of April, 1976 ? persons whose land has been acquired for the construction of Bansagar irrigation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Project in district Satna of Madhya DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI Pradesh; YOGENDRA MAKWANA: The requisite information is as under: (b) what is the total amount of money given by the Union Ministry of Irrigation Up~r Division Clerks 19 for compensation and rehabilitation of Upper Division Clerks- these persons whose lands arc going to cum-Computors 7 be submerged;

(c) is there any special consideration to I T,an,lati01l1 rehabilitate these uprooted persons at the New Colleges 10 Edaeadoaally Backward earliest; and Areas by U.G.C. (d) what is the probable date of com· 6866. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR pletion of this project which is approved and "nttPATHI : Will the Minister of EDUCA- financed by the Ministry of Ir~iaatjon? 7S Written Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 76

THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION rants; etc. Also when Printed Card Tickets AND POWER (SHR[ B. SHANKARA­ are not available for a particular destination NAND) : (a) to (d). Bansagar Project is an Excess Fare Ticket for extension of jour.. an inter-State Project financed by the ney is issued alongwith the printed card Government of Madhya Pradesh, Uttar ticket to the farthest station available on the Pradesh and Bihar and executed by Madya route. Pradesh under the supervision and direction of the Bansagar Control Board established (c) and (d). Refund on printed card by the Government of India. ' The Project tickets and blank paper tickets can be granted is proposed to be completed by 1990-91, at the station' itself if the unused ticket is subject to adequate funds being provided by surrendered within the prescribed time limits. the three States. Mode) villages for re­ However, in case of partially used Blank habilitation of affected persons are under Paper Tickets applications for refund have construction. An amount of Rs. 5.99 to be made to the Chief Commercial Superin­ crores has been paid for compensation for tendents concerned as there have been a 3,231 hectares of land and other properties number of cases of fraudulent refund on that have been acquired lipto March, 1985. Blank paper Tickets. Corresponding number of persons is not reported. (e) No, Sir.

(f) Does not arise. Refund to •B}"'f' Holders 6868. SHRI UTTAMRAO PATIL: Kolar Irrigation Project Will the Minister of R~ILWAYS be pleased 6869. SHRI PRATAP BHANU to state: SHARMA: Will the Minister of IRRIGA­ (a) whether it is a fact that hard board TION AND POWER be pleased to state : tickets are issued against the fare tendered are sometime Blank Paper Ticket (BPT) arc (a) the progress of Kolar Irrigation Pro­ also issued; ject in Madhya Pradesh and the time requi­ red for its completion; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) whether the construction work was (c) whether it is a fact that in the event held up for want of sufficient funds during of cancellation of the trains,' passengers who 1984-85; have fornler type of tickets get thl! refund direct from the Railway Dooking Window at (c) if so, the effective steps taken by the the point of cancellation while the refund Union Government for the speedy and timely inclusive sleeper charges to "BPT· holders is completion of this project; and delayed without any valid reasons; (d) whether C.A.D. Agency has been (d) if so, the details in this regard and constituted for this project? the reasons for such discrimination; THE MINISTER OF IRR1GATION (e) whether any complaints relating to AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ problem faced by public for refund due to NAND) : (a) to (c). Kolar Irrigation Project the cancellation of trains after the assassina­ is not yet approved by the Planning Com­ tion of Shrimati Indira Gandhi have been mission. However, the works on the Project received from Members of Parliament; and have been taken up by the Government of Madhya Pradesh and an expenditure of Rs. (f) if so, the details thereof and the 31.58 crores is anticipated to have been in­ action taken thereon ? curred upto March 1985 against the latest estimated cost of Rs. 96.36 crores. The pro­ ject is programmed to be completed by the THE MU-nSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI State by 1990.. 91. An expenditure of about BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. Rs. 12.16 crores is incurred during 1984~85.

(b) Blank Paper Tickets are issued ld) Command Area Development Autho­ against concession orders and Police War- rity constituted for the Barne and HaiaH 77 Wrllft'" AnSM'erS VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Wr/ t tell Answr'$ 78

Project has been given jurisdiction over the (e) whether Government have received Kolar Project b} the Government of Madhya suggestions from M.Ps. during November! Pradesh. December. 1984 to allot tea/fruit juice stalls at'Delhi/New Delhi stations as per policy/ Legislation on Indian Council of Para rules to Scheduled Castes/unemployed Medical Rehabilitation Profession graduates/bandicapp~d, if so, what action has been taken thereon ? 6870. SHRI H. G. RAMULU : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI WELFARE be pleased to refer to the reply BANSI LAL) : (a) One tea-staJi in the cir.. given to Unstarred Question No. 2711 dated culating area of New Delhi station, and one the 9th August, 1984 regarding delay in deci­ fruit juice stall at Delhi station~ were allotted sion to bring legislation on Indian Council of temporarily after giving due local publicity, Para Medical Rehabilitation Profession and and making a reference to Director Genera)/ state : re-settlement, New Delhi.

(a) whether the legislative proposals on (b) (i) The tea-stall has been allotted in Indian Council of Para Medical Rehabilita­ the circulaling area towards second tion Profession have since been finalised; and entry of New Delhi station

(b) if so, when the Bill in this regard (ii) The fruit juice stall has been allot­ will be introduced in Parliament? ted on platform No. 8 I.lt Delhi Main. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOG­ (c) and (d). All the candidates who had ENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) and (b). The appl icd for these contracts were interviewed proposal for setting up a Council for Phy­ and screened by a duly constituted Screening siotherapists and Occupational Therapists is Committee, and thc contracts were allotted being reconsidered in view of the move initia­ to those who were adjudged suitable by the ted by the Ministry of Socia] and Women's Screening Committee. Welfare for setting up of a Rehabilitation Council. Action in regard to drafting a Bill (e) No, Sir. for the purpose will be taken, in consultation with the Ministry of Law, aftcr the Ministry Setting up of Rehabilitation Council of Social and Women's Welfare takes a final view. 6H72. SHRI V. SREEN (VASA PRASAD: Will the Minister of SOCIAL AND Allotment of Tea and Fruit Juice Stalls WOMEN'S WELfARE be pleased to state: at Delhi and New Delhi Station (a) Whether it is a fact that Government 687J. SHRI MOHAMMED MAHFOOZ have decided to set up a "Rehabilitation ALI KHAN : Will the Minister of RA I L­ CouncilH for the speedy rehabilitation of the WAYS be pleased to state: disabled persons; and (a) whether it is a fact that during (b) if so and the dewils thereof? December, J984 without press pUblicity !\ome stallSLof tea and fruit juice were a Hotted at THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Delhi and New Delhi stations; MINISTRY OF SOCJAL AND WOMEN'S WELFARE (SHRJMATI M. CHANDRA­ (b) if so. the details thereof; SEKHAR) : (a) No. Sir. (c) whether it is a1so a fact that during November, 1984 a number of unemployed However. Government is considering to graduates/Scheduled Castes/handicapped had set up a Rehabilitation Council for prescrib­ requested/applied for aBotment of tea/fruit ing and enforcing stal'dards in training pro­ juice staBs at Delhi and New Delhi stations fessionals for rehabilitation of disabled were not cO:lsidered; persons.

(d) if $0, the reasons therefor; and (b) Does not arise. 79 Writtell Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 80

~Produetioa and Marketing of Smoking is being collected and will be laid on tho Mixtures by Mis. I.T.C. Ltd. the Table of the Sabba. And Dunclan Agro Ltd. (d) No, there is no such rule and there­ fore its implementation does not arise. 6873. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Will the Minister of HEALJ:H AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : Recruitment of Scheduled Castesl . Scheduled Tribes In Nortbera aad (a) whether Government are aware that Eastern Railways Mis. I.T.C. Ltd. and Duncldn Agro Ltd. are producing and marketing some smoking n)ix­ 6875. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN tures which are very injurious to health; and ANSARI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS. be pleased to state the number of Scheduled (b) if so, whether Government will con­ Castes and Scheduled Tribes recruited in duct an enquiry into the whole affair and if class III and class IV posts in Northern and not, the reasons therefor? Eastern Railways during the period from 1982 to 1984 7 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA); (a) and (b). BANSI LAL) : Thelinformation i5 being col­ Government is of the ophion that any form lected and will be laid on the table of the of smoking is injurious to health. As per the Sabha. Cigarettes (Regulation. Supply and Distribu­ tion) Act, 1975. a statutory warning about the [English] health hazards of smoking i'l required to be incorporated in the cigarette packets, cartons Allotment of Pethidine Raw Material and advertisements so as to forewarn the to Pharmaceutical Firms consumers. 6876. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY [Translat ion] WELFARE be pleased to state: Appointments made by Divisional Railway Manager, Katihar (a) whether pethidine raw material allot­ men t is made to tbe pharmaceutical firms; 6874. SHRI D. L. BAITHA : Will the Minister of RAILWA YS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the basis on which new firms were allotted during 1984-85; (a) tl~e number of appointments made on regular, temporary, cdsual and daily wages (c) the method adopted for its allotment; during the past two years i.c. 1983 and 1984, and by the Divisional Railway Manager, Katihar and the number of Scheduled Castes and (d) whether any representations/object­ Scheduled Tribes persons among them; ions have been received for a more equitable distribution and if so, the details thereof and (b) whether it is a fact that applications corrective steps taken 7 were not called for through employment exchange for making thc~e appointments as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE required under the rules; DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) to (c). (c) if so, the action proposed to be taken Narcotics Commissioner intimates to the by Government in this connection; and Drug Controller (India) approved estimates (d) whether there is a rule in the railway of narcotic drugs including Pethidine. The department that at least 25 persons will be Drug Controller (India) allots the quota of appointed from amongst the S~hedu'ed C\lstcs narcotic drugs including Pethidine to different and Scheduled Tribes candidates every year, State Drug Control Authorities takins into and if SOt whether this rule has been followed '/ consideration the requircrr.ent-s of the State and the quantity utilised during tbe previous THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI year. The State Drug Authorities in tum BANSI LAL): (a) to ~c). Tbe information allocate tbe quota of narcotics drup to their 81 Wrltt~n Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written An8Wf!rS 82 licensed pbarmaceutical manufacturers in the THE MINISTER OF BDUCATI

Herbon School at Ootacamund THE M1NISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SaRI B, SHANlGARA­ 6878. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM NAND) : (a) to (e). Some objections on Wilt the Minister of EDUCATION be the basis of environmental consideration pleased to state: have been raised against the proposed (a) whethor the Herbon School at Bhopalpatnam, In,hampally and Manas Pro­ O,ott\camund in Tamilnadu has been recog­ jects. The feasibility reports of Inchampalli nised as an examination Centre for Associated and Manas Projects are not yet received by Examinin& Board, London; the. Centre. The environmental iQlR8Ct of these two projects can be assessed onli after (bl if so, whether tbe syllabus ~dopted the feasibility reports with details of tlae by this Scbool is the same as tbat followed a~iated OO),iromolltal aspects .. f\l~.d in India or by Associated E'\amining Board. by the concerned Project Authoriti~. London; and (c) wbe.dJer any other ScbooJ in India As regards Bhopalpatnam Project, tbe ute this Sc:IHloJ is following lbo syllabus of GQveromentt of Mabara&ht.. ud Madhya ~ ~ Boald. 1...00.00 7' Pra4lth bIlvc' COPMi.... d a task f~ in 83 Written AnJwer: MAY 16, 1985 Written AnSWI's 84

January, 1985 to examine the environmental National Transport Policy Committee and the aspects of the project. The report of this task Railway Reforms Committee, Government fOlee is not received by the Centre. have introduced a rationalised passenger fare structure, with appropriate modifications, Recommendations of Rail Tariff with effect from 1st April, 1983. The details Enquiry CO:llmUtee regarding are given below : Passengers' Fare Rates I. Second Class (Ordinary) : The Second 6880. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA : Will Class (Ordinary) fare were revised as under: the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ----- ", ------__ . state: -- Zero kms 50 Paise ----_.,._---_. •. (a) the recommendations of the Rail __ ._--._ ----- Tariff Enquiry Committee on passengers' fare ·plus 1-150 km~ 6 paise pel' km. rates; and plus 151-400 kms 5 paise per km. (b) the action taken by Government plus 401-750 kms 4 paise per km. thereon? plus 751-1200 kms 3.5 paise per km. THE MINISTER FOR RAILWAYS plus over 1200 kms 3 paise per km. (SHR} BANS} LAL) : (a) and (b). The main recommendations of the Rai) Tariff *Por distances upto 150 kms in Second Enquiry Committee made in 1980, on passen­ Class (Ordinary) arid Mail/Express, the fares ger fare rates are given below: for the distance slab 1.. 150 kms were calcula­ ted on the basis of 5.7 paise per km instead Recommendation No. 68 : It is recom­ of 6 paise per km. mended that the scale of fares for the Second (Ordinary) Class which should be the basic 2. Fares for the other Classes: As 00 scale, should be constructed as shown below: 1.4.1983 the scale of fares for the other Class bore the following relationship with the Distance 2nd Ordinary Second Class (Ordinary) scalt of fares with marginal adjustments in a few distance Zero km. 25 paise (fixed charge) zones: plus 1 to 150 kms 5 paise per km. Second Class Mail/Express 140 per cent plus 151 to 400 kms 4 paise per km. A. C. Chair Car 300 per cent plus 401 to 750 kms 3.25,paise per km. First Class 550 per cent plus 751 to 1200 kms 2.75 paise per km. A. C. Class 1150 per cent plus over 1200 kms 2.50 paise per km.

"_'-_~~ __ ~A .... ---- -_. __ --.... ~---.. ••• ___ w~ _____._~ ~ ____._ Affilation of C. G. II. S. Dispensaries Recommerldation 'No. 72 : It is further ill Chandigarh with PGI recommended that the fare scales for various cl~sses should bear the foJlowing relationship 6881, SHRI SAIFUDDIN With the Second (Ordinary) Class scale of CHA WDHAR Y : Will the Minister of fares: HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : Class Suburban Non-Suburban O~dio;;y- .-Mu ill- '-- (a) whether any hospital in Chandigarh has been affiliated to C. G. H. S. Scheme; Express Second Class 100 100 140 (b) jf not, the reasons thereof; and A. C. Chair Car 300 (c) whether Government propose to First Class 400 400 500 affiliate the P. G. I. Chandjgarh to this scheme? A. C. c. 1100 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Keeping in view the re~ornmendations of OEPARTMFNT OF HEALTH (SHRI the Rilil Tariff Enquiry Committee, the YOGENDRA MAKW ANA) :

(b) and (c). There are no proposals with the savipgs in use of fuel oil quantitatively the Government to affiliate P. G. 1., Chandi­ and in monetary terms can be established garh with the Central Government Health only after the new system is tried in a thermal Scheme. This is because the, Scheme is not in power station and performance tests are operation in Chandigarh and there are no carried out. facilities in P. G. I., Chandigarh which could be considered as exclusive to that institution [Trans/at ion) and not available in other repognised institu­ U.P.·s Irrigation Schemes for Se\'entb tions. Plan

Mental Trouble Symptoms In Bhopal 6884. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will Gas Victims the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : 6882. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND (a) whether U.P. Government have sub­ FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state the mitted any scheme to the Ministry for appro­ number of Bhopal gas victims showing sym­ val to increase the present irrigation capacity ptoms of mental trouble1i ? of the States during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (b) if so, the details of the schemes and YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : A preliminary by what time it is likely to be approved? survey conducted as part of a study suppor­ THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION ted by the Indian Council of Medical Re­ AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ search, reveals that approximately 10-12 per NAND) : (a) and (b) The Draft Seventh cent of the patients attending the nlcdical and Plan proposals of the State Government en .. community health clinics in Bhopal present visage creation of an additional irrigation psychological symptoms. potential of 0.86 m. ha from major and medium irrigation schemes and 0.97 m. ha. System to Reduce Consumption of from minor irrigation schemes during the 7th Fuel Oil in Thermal Plants Plan. #, The proposaJs of the State's 7th Plan 6883. SHR1MATI MANORAMA are yet to be finalised. SINGH : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION Loan for Chambal Command Area AND POWER be pleased to state : 6885. SHRI SHANTI DHARIW AL (a) whether Bharat Heavy Electrical Will the Minister of IRRIGATION, AND Limited has achieved a major breakthrough POWER be pleased to state : in developing a system to reduce consumption of fuel oil in thermal power plants; (a) whether there is any possibility of advancing loan to Chambal Command Area (b) whether the new system known as in Rajasthan by the World Bank during this "direct ignition of pulverised coal" has been year; and tried in one of the existing thermal power plants of the National Thermal Power Cor­ (b) if not, the reasons therefor? poration and if so, with what reaults; and THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (c) in case -the system bas been found AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ successful what will be the savings in the use NAND): (a) No, Sir. of fuel oil quantitatively and in monetary terms ? (b) The State Government )las Qot yet furnished any proposal for external assistance. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN {English] NEHRU) : (a) to (c). According to BHEL, a Harmful Effects of Entroqaiool Eatro­ system known as direct ignition of pulverised vloform, Maxaform coal has been developed. It bas not been tried in any power plant of National Thermal 6886. SHRl SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : Power Corporation. Accordina to BBEL. Will the Minister of HEALTH At-ID 81 W,./Ilm AnNe', MAY 16, 1985 Written Anlwers 88

FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (a) whether Union Government are YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) Yes, Sir. aware that certain drugs like Entroquinol, lintrovioform, Maxaform and such other (b) and (c). The Pharmacy Council of drugs have very barmfu1 effects on the body India is still working out the modalities in system causing n~rves weakness and disorders this regard and the final decision for the culminating in various maladies including introduction of such a course or otherwise dedfness, blindness etc: will be taken a"er examining the considered opinion of the States/Union Territory (b) if so, what steps have been taken Governments in this behalf. :autlng the past three years to ban the manu­ facture and distribution of these drugs; Implementation of Recommendation (c) whether Government are aware 'that of Third Pay Commission Regarding sUCh drugs are being issued from Government Selection Grade to Emplo}'ees In Hospitals and dispensaries'; and CGHS

(d) if so, the reasons therefor? 6888. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b). (a) whether the recommendations of the Government of India in consultation with the Third Pay Commission for giving selection medical Experts and Indian Council of grade to 10 per cent of employees has been Medical Research have decided not to ban implemented in C. G. H. S. since 1-1-1973; the 'marketing of products containing halo­ and tetlated hydroxyquinolines, an active ingre­ di~ht of 'Mexoform and Entra-Vioform. (b) if so, the number of the Pharmacists IHalbgennted hyclro"yquinoJine group of drugs given selection grade since 1 w 1 .. 1973 and the are now Sche~ute - 4H' drugs and require to reasons for not giving this grade to the 'be ~old only against the prescription of a remaining Pharnlacists ? i!>oetor. A cautionary note is also required to be inserted in the package insert highlighting THE MINIS'IER OF STATE IN THE the incidence of SMON that occurred in DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI Jal'anese population, for the guidance of the YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b). medical profession. , The Government has introducted election grade in group ~C' and '0' cadres with effect (c) and (d). In view of reply to (a) and from 1st August, 1976 only. (b) above the General Hospitals and dis­ pensaries are permitted to issue such prepa­ The seniority of the Pharmacists worlring rations to the patients. in the CGHS, Delhi, had to be revised be­ cause of a ruling by the High Court of Delhi. [Translation] The Selec'don Grade will be given to the eligible Pharmacists, shortly. but_flen of P1nrnDaeist Course tEnglish) :6887. "SHRI vtLl\"S M,UTTEMWAR: WIt 1 i'he Minis'!!r of f1'E}\L TH A'ND AssistaDce to Karanataka for FAMILY WELFARE be l11eased to state: Construcfion of Girls Hottels

(a) whether Government art" aware that 6889. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYBR Pharmacy Council of InJla propose to make Will the Minister of SOCIAL AND the Pharmacist Course a two year course after WOMEN'S WELFARE be pleased to state: intermediate Science; (a) the amount of Central .assistance (h) if 80, ,tbe time by which it is likely It'\len 10 Karanataka State during 1984-85 \0 be introduced; a,nd for 'construction of ,Girls Hostels; and (c) 'ir hOt, the reasons theretor -I (b) how many new Bitls hostels were 89 Wrlttrm Altlw~/S VAISAKHA 26, 1907 {SAKA) W,III"" An.rwers '90 constructed during 1984-85 with the Central examine Internship programn1e and (v) evolve assistance ? realistic pr(.ljections of Medical manpower requirement during the Sixth Five Year Plan THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and beyond. MINISTRY OF SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S WELFARE (SHRIMATI M. CHANDRA­ Extension 01' Quilon-Kottayanl SEKHAR) : (a) An assistance of Rs. 19,42. Shuttle upto Emakulam 187 was provided to 5 voluntary organisa­ tions in Karanataka for construction of 6891. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : WiU tbe working Women's Hostels during 1984-8S. Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

(b) Three new Working Won1en's (a) whether the Venad Express running Hostels were sanctioned for Karanataka between Trivandrum and Ernakulam is always during 1984-85. over crowded;

National Medical Education Inspec­ (b) if so, whether Government propose tion Committee to consider the extension of the present Qui1on .. Kottayam shuttle which runs in the 6890. PROF. NJRMALA KUMARI morning, upto ErnakuJam and run it as an SHAKTAWAT : Will the Minister of express between Kottayarn and Ernakulam HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be so as to reduce the overcrowding in the pl"ased to state: Venad Express; and (a) whether Government has set up a 15 Members National Medical Education (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Inspection Committee in 198 J; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, the main functions of this Committee; (b) No, Sir.

(c) whether the members of this Inspec­ (c) Apart from the Question of lack of tions Committee had ever worked in rural traffic justification extension 38) /382 Quiton­ areas; and Kottayam passenger to and from Ernakulam is not feasible due to saturated line capacity (d) if SOt the details of the work report on sections enrou te. of the Committee ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Spread of T.D. and Leprosy in Tribal DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI Areas of Bihar, Madhya pradesh, YOGBNDRA MAKWANA) : (a) to (d). Or;SS8 and Rajasthan The Government of India did not set up any National Medical Education Inspection 6892. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANOO : Committee in 1981. However, the Govern­ Will the Minister of HEALTH AND ment 'Of India had 'set up a Medical Educa­ FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: tion ,Review Committee in September, 1981, (a) whether Government arc aware that consisting of IS members under the Chair­ killer diseases like T.B. and Jeprosy i. manStrip of Dr. S. l. Mehta, Retired Direc­ spreading in tribal areas of Madhya tor, Jaslok Hospital, Bombay, to review the Bih~r. present Medical Education System, in the Pradesh, Orissa and Rajasthan; context or'the National commitment to attain (b) if SOt the tribal areas affected by these the goal of health for all by the year 2000 di$Cases in these States aiongwith the popula­ A. D. through the universal provision of. tion affected; and pririilry Health Care. The Committee was required to (0 review the current admission (c) tbe steps taken by Government to procedure, (ii) suggest measures for bringing assist and provide the necessary medicines to a"b()\,ct overall improvements in the under· tbese States during the ~Iast ,three yeats ? and ~c:lst~Jra:ituate "ara

YOOENDRA MAKHANA) (a) and (b). M uzaffa~pur There is no evidence to show that TB and Munger leprosy is spreading at a higher rate in tribal Hazaribagh areas of Bihar. Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Rajasthan. In so far as leprosy is con­ Ranchi cerned some of the districts \\ hich also Rothas include the tribal population have been identi­ Singhbhum fled as hyper endemic with a prevalance rate of 10 and above per thousand. The list of Madhya Pradesh Bilaspur such districts in these states is given at state· Raipur ment-]. Raigarb (c) The Central assistance released to Durg these States under TB and leprosy pro­ grammes is given in the statement at state­ Chhindwara ment-II. Orissa Ganjam Statement Balasore List of hyper endemic Dis/ricls with Cuttuck Preralance Rate 0/ 10/1000 and above Chenkanal Mayurbhanj Name of the State Districts Puri Bihar Santhal Parganas Sambalpur Dhanbad Rajasthan Alwar Gaya Bharatpur Saran

Statement· II

Statement showing the C(JS/ of the anti-TB drugs supplied under National TB Control Programme alld the quantum 0/ Central as:;..istance including drugs released to Stales under National Leprosy Eradication Programme during 1982-83, 1983-84, 1984-85

(Rs. in Jakhs) ------,.. _--, Name of State 1982-83 1983-84 1984-85 TB LEPROSY TB LEPROSY TB LEPROSY --_._------.... ~--- .. ~--... ------~------~-,,-, -,------_.. --_-_. Bihar 4.54 . 47.84 16.45 57.24 67.48 62.81 Madhya Pradesh 10.84 33.98 18.83 SS.9S 78.73 66.12 Orissa 6.11 66.77 9.88 66.61 26.96 119.86 Rajasthan 6.53 24.73 13.11 20.02 44.15 25.78 " ._.",--_._._------E'aluatioa of History Text Books (b) if so. the details thereof; In Different States

6893. SHRIMATI PHULRENU GUHA: (c) the stage and class from which World Will the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased History is taught to the school students in to state: different States; and

(8) whether there has been any evaJua .. (d) the syllabi of History in West Benpl tion of the history text books used in schools schools as compared to that of schools in in different States; other States '1 93 W,ltten. Answt's VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) W,lllen Answers

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (a) whether passengers were given exemp­ (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) Yes, Sir. tion from the payment of freight on goods booked as luggage up to a limit; (b) Government have undertaken a pro­ gramme for evaluation of school textbooks (b) whether it is also a fact that this in history and languages with the objective concession has been withdrawn when passen­ of identifying and deleting material prejudi­ gers desire to transport furniture articles of cial to national integration. To begin with a)J domestic use; and school textbooks in history and languages prescrided/recommended in the States/Union (c) if so, the reasons therefor 1 Territories are to be reviewed from the national integration angle. The review is be­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ing undertaken on a decentraliscd basis under (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) to (c). As per the overall guidance of the G0vernment of extant rules, the following free allowance for India and according to the guidelines pre­ each ticket is given at the starting station on pared by the National Council of Educational the total weight of the luggage: Research and Training (NCERT). The text­ books are to be reviewed to identify and Air-conditioned Class 70 kgs. eliminate the following prejudices and attitudes: First Class/2-Tier A. C. 50 kgs. A. C. Chair Car 40 kgs. I. Communalism Second Class 3S kgs. 2. Casteism Half of these quantities are allowed for each 3. Regionalism and linguism child's (half) ticket. 4. Rachlism 5. Obscurantism and superstition. No such free allowance is permissible. inter-alia, on bulky articles of any descrip­ Government have also set up high level tion like furniture which on account of their Steering Committee at the National level to bulk are chargeable on measurement basis. consider the evaluation reports from the This rule has been in vogLle for the past State Evaluation Groups/National Council several decades and has not been modified. of Educational Research and Training and review the progress of the programme. The work of evaluation has been completed in 27 Ayacut Area t;nder Major Irrigation States and Union Territories. Projects 6895. DR. K. G. ADJYODI: WiIJ the (c) Generally, World History is included in the syllabi at secondary stage, Le. in Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be Classes IX and X in most of the States. pleased to state :

(d) In West Bengal. History taught at (a) total c ~tent of area under major irri· middJe school stage includes mainly World gation projects in Kerala project-wise up to History. Indian History is taught in the 31 March, t 985; and context of World History. In Classes IX and X detailed History of India is taught. In (b,1 the details of work conducted regard­ many States generally Indian History is ing Ayacut development and water manage­ taught at the middle school stage and World ment with CWI'RS in the year 1983-84 and History at the secondary school stage. 1984·85, the benents and the extant of area developed project-wise? Exemption from Payment Freight or THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION on Goods AND ,POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ 6894. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Will NAND) : (a) Information regardiog targets the Minister of RAILW~ YS be pleased to for irrigation potentia) from major projects Slate : by tbe end of March, 1985 is as follows : MAY 16. 1985 Written Answer.

however, allowed to travel with an escort, S. No. Name of Project' Target (Th. Ha.) either in first .. c1ass or second-class. on 75 per cent concessions. 1. Kallada 16.'9 2. Periyar Valley 79.46 (c) and (d). No, Sir. The extent of con­ 3. Pamba 48.87 cession already granted is quite subst~ntia:l~

4. Kuttiadi 34.87 Opening of New Medical Colleae,s. 5. Chitturpuzha 26.97 6. Kanhirapuzha 23.99 6897. SARI JITENDRA PRASADA: 7. Pazhassi 21.18 Will the Minister of. HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: 8. Completed major scbemes 167.76 ... _.... .•. _---_ (a) the number and names of medical colleges separately in the country, State-wise; (b) Central Water and Power Research Station was not associated with ayacut (b) the States not having a single Medi­ development work during 1983~84 and cal College; 1984·8S. (c) whether as a matter of National Free Travel Concession to Physically Policy Government propose to open at least Jlandicapped one such college in a State; (d) whether college in such States will 6896. SHRJ RADHA KANTA DIGAL : be started during the current year itself; and Will the Minis_ter of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (e) if not, the reasons therefor?

(a) whether his Ministry has allowed THE MINISTER OF STA-rE IN THE free travel concession to physically handi­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI capped; YOGENDRA MAK W ANA): (a) and (b). A Statement is enclosed. (b) if so, since when; \c) to (e). The present out-turn of the (c) if not, whether Government are con 4 Medical graduates every year from the exist­ sidering to give certain relaxations to physi­ ing Medical Colleges is considered sufficient to cally handicapped for travelling in trains; and n1cct the 111cdical Manpower requirements of the country. Therefore, the present policy of (d) when the necessary steps are likely to the Government of India is not to encourage be taken in this regard ~ the setting up of any new Medical College in the country. Enlpbasis is laid on the conso­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ~SHRI lidation and improvement of the existing BANS! LAL) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. Totally facilities for training medical Manpower free travel has D()t been pennitted. They are, rather than expansion of the same.

Statement

State Number Names of Medical Colleges

(a) ). Andhra Pradesh 9 1. Andhra Medica) College. Visakhapatnam. 2. Rangaraya Medical College, Kakinada. 3. GuntlJr Medical College, Ouotur. 4. Osmania Medical College, Hyderabad. S. Gandhi Medical College, Hyderabad.. 6. Kakatiya Medical College, WarangaJ 1. K umool Medical Colleae. Kurnool. VAISAKHA' 26. 1907 (SAKA) Written AII6_"

State Number Name of Medical Colleact·

8. S.V. Medical College, Tirupati. ·9. Siddartha Medical College, Vijaywada. 2. 4 1. Gauhati Medical College, Gauhati. 2. Silchar Medical College, Silchar. 3. Regional Medical College, Imphal. 4. Assam Med ica] College, Dibrugarh.

3. Bihar 9 1. Darbhanga Medical College, Laheriasarai. 2. Sri Krishna Medical College, Muzafl'arpur.

3. Patoa Medical College, ~.tftao. 4. Rajendra Medical College, Ranchi. 5. M.G.M. Medical College, Jamshedpur. 6. Patliputra Medical College, Dbanbad. 7. Medical College, BhagaJpur. 8. Magadh Medical CoUeao. Gaya. 9. Nalanda Medical College, Patoa.

4. Delhi 4 1. All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi. 2. Lady Hardinge Medical Conege, New Delhi. 3. Mawana Azad Melilical, Colle,., New Delhi. 4. University eoHege of Medical Sciences, New Delhi.

5. Gujarat 5 1. B.J. Medical College, Ahmedabad. 2. Municipal Medical College, Ahmedabad. 3. Medical College, Baroda. 4. M.P. Shah Medical College, Jamnagar. S. Government Medical College, Surat.

1. H.P. Medical College, Simla.

7. Haty~ 1 1. Government Medical College, Rohtak.

8. Jammu & Kashmir 2 I. Government Medical College, Srinagar. 2. Medical College, Jammu.

9. Kanata_ 14' 1. Mysore Medical College, Mysore. 2. J.J .M. Medical College, Davanaere. 3. Kasturba Medical College, Manipal/ Mangalore. 4. Bangalore Medical Colleae. Banplore. 5. St. John's Medical Col~ Ban.... re. 6. 'Karoataka Medical Coli*, Hubli. 7. J.L.N. Medical Collep, Belpum. Jf'rillen Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 100

------.~-----.. --.. ----, State Number Name of Medical Colleges ------._---_._- ---, 8. Medical College, BelJary. 9. M.R. Medical College, Gulbarga. *10. M.S. Ramiah Medical College, Bangalore. -II. B.R. Ambedkar M~dical College, Bangalore. *12. Kampagouda Instt. of Medical Sciences, Bangalore . • 13. Medical College, Bijapur. *14. Medical College, Mysore.

10. Kerala 5 1. Medical College, Trivandrum. 2. Medical College, Kottayam. 3. T.D. Medical Col1ege, Alleppey.

4. Medical College~ Ca1icut. *5. Medica1 College~ Trichur. 11. Madhya Pradesh 6 1. Medical College, Jabalpur. 2. a.R. Medical College, GwaJior. 3. M.O.M. Medical Col1~ge, Indore. 4. Gandhi Medical College, Bhopal. 5. J.L.N. Medical Co1Jege, Raipur. 6. 5.5. Medical College, Rewa. 12. Maharashtra 16 1. Grant Medical College, "Bombay. 2. Seth G.S. Medical College, Bombay. 3. T.N. Medical College, Bombay. 4. L.T.M. Medical College, Bombay. 5. B.J. Medical College. Poona. 6. Armed Forces Medical College, Poona. 7. Miraj Medica1 College, Miraj. 8. Dr. V.M. Medical College, Sholapur. 9. Government Medical College, Aurangabad. 10. S.R.T.R. Medical College, Ambajogai. t 1. Medical College, Nagpur. 12. Indira Gandhi Corporation Medical College, Nagpur. 13. Mahatma Gandhi Instt. of Medical Sciences, Sevagram, Wardha. *14. Krishna Institute of Medical . Sciences. Karad.

*15. Rural Medical CoJJege, Loni. *16. Medical Colleges Amravati. 13. Orissa 3 1. S.C.B. Medical College, Cuttack. 2. V.S.S. Medical College, Burla. l. M.K.C.G. Medical College, Berhampur. 101 W,illen Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 lSAKA) 102

State Number Name of Medical College

14. Punjab 5 1. Government Medical College, Patiala 2. Guru Govind Singh Medical CoIlcse, Faridkot 3. Christian Medical College, Ludhiana. 4. Dayanand Medical College, Ludhiana. 5. Medical College, Amritsar.

15. Rajasthan 5 1. S.M.S. Medical College, Jaipur. 2. S.P. Medical College, Bil~aner. 3. R.N.T. Medical College, Udaipur. 4. Dr. S.N. Medical College, Jodhpur. 5. J.L.N. Medical College, Ajmer.

16. Tan1iJ Nadu 9 1. Madras Medical CoJlege, Madras. 2. Stanley Medical College, Madras. 3. Christian Medical College, Vellore. 4. Kilpauk Medical College, Madras. 5. Thanjavur Medical College, Thanjavur. 6. Medical College, Chingleput. 7. Medical College, Coimbatore. 8. Madurai Medical College, Madurai. 9. Tirunelveli Medical College, Tirunelveli.

17. Uttar Pradesh 9 1. S.N. Medical College, Agra. 2. J.L.N. Medical.College, Aligarh. 3. M.L.N. Medical College, Allahabad. 4. Institute of Medical Sciences, Varanasi. s. G.S.V.M. Medical College, Kanpur. 6. M.L.B. Medical College, Jhansi. 7. K.G. Medical College, Lucknow. 8. L.L.R.M. Medical College, Meerut. 9. D.R.O. Medical College, Gorakhpur.

18. West Bengal 7 1. Medical College, Calcutta. 2. R.G. Kar Medical College, Calcutta. 3. N .R.S. Medical College, Calculta. 4. Calcutta Nationa) Medical CoJJeae, Calcutta. S. B.S. Medical College, Calcutta. 6. North Bengal Medical Colleae. Sil~ri. 7. Burdwan MedicaJ ,Co Ileac, Butdwaa.

19. Union Territory of G08, 1 1. Goa Medica) ColJege, Panaji. Daman & Diu ,~ II' ~ \

20. Union. Territor)' of 1 1. Jawaharlal Institute or PoStsau.:tua·te Medj.. Pondicberry . cal Education and Reaearcll, PO~. 104

Number Name of Medical QMfaae

(.) Sta_"Dot .,_ • Single Medical College 1. Nagaland. 2. Mizoram. 3. Megbalaya. 4. A runachal Pradesh. S. Sikkim. 6. Union Territory of Andaman & Nicobar. 7. Tripura. ' 8. Lakshedeep. ---,-----' ---,------_ ·Started without the prior approval of the Central Government/Medical Council of India.

Number of Ships Carrying Pilgrims (a) whether a large number of students to Mecca in our schools and colleges do not know National Anthem; and 6898. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will the Minister of 'SHIPPING AND TRANS­ (b) if so, the steps taken in this direction? PORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (a) the number. of pilgrims went to Mecca (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) Educational by ships during the last three years; institutions are expected to teach the National Anthem to the students. However, inspite of (b) whether the number of ships carrying efforts it is possible that some students are pilgrims to Mecca has been reduced consider­ not able to render the National Anthem ably; and properly. (c) tf so, the reasons therefor? THE M1NISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) Under the Community Singing Pro­ MINtSTRY 'OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ gramme of the National Council of Educa­ tional Research and Training, the proper PORT (SHRl Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) rendering of the National Anthem is being, - __1______------taught to all music teachers who participate Year Pilgrims proceeded by Sea in nationa1 intearation camps organised by .------~-----,----- 19i2 9993 the NCERT in different parts of the Country 1983 9931 to enable them to teach the students. The song book, entitled 'Let's Sing Together' 1984 ,4715 brought out by the NCERT contains the (b) and (c). 'Till 1983, the Mogul Lines National Anthem accompanied by musical were operating two steamers for carrying Haj notations so that the teachers and'the students 'PltIritns. Of' 4Mse, 0fIe -bad to be scrapped can sing the National Anthem properly. being unsea .. worthy and since Hl84· OAly one ship is deployed on . "he tkj route. Further, Switching over to Commercial Aceountlag, thetp&ttorn of transportatio,\ uf Haj pilgrims is aradually changing from Sea to air due to 6900. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : Will SC'a travel beinl' lime oonsuming, inconvenient the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER and almost a8 costly as travel by air. be pleased to state: (a) whether some State Electricity Boards N.t..... Aathem fa Schools and Colleges have switched over to commercial accountina; ,6899. ,PROF. K. V. THOMAS : Wi)) the Yi.istor Qf EDUCATION be pleased to (b) if so, what are those 'State Electricity state : Board.; lOS Written Alllwe,s VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1()6

(c) whether his Ministr~ proposes to (b) whether the number is far bigger suggest other State Electricity Boards in the than the number of illiterates as on 1S country to switch over to tl\is system; and August, 1941;

(d) if SO~ when Centra I Guidelines are (c) whelher any policy has been adopted proposed to be sent to different State Electri­ by the Government to meet the problem of city Boards in this regard ? illiteracy on war footing; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the details thereof? DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to (d). Through a notification THE MINISTER Of' EDUCATION in the Gazette of India, the Electricity ,SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) The number of (Supply) AOlendment Act, 1983 has been illiterates is known only through the census brought into force with effect from 1st April. which is conducted once in tcn years. The 1985 for introduction of commercial account­ last census was conducted in 198]. A state­ ng in all the State Electricity Boards. The ment showing the number of illiterates in Rules required for introduction of commercial India as per the 19t-; 1 census and the State­ accounting are being notified. wise di~tributi(}n is attached. (b) Although the rate of literacy bas Supply of Sub-Standard Medicines to gone up from )6.6] percent in 1951 to 36.23 CGHS Beneficiaries per cent in 1981, the total number of illitera­ tes has increased due to rise in population. 6901. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (c) and (d). Yes Sir; High priority has WELFARE be pleased to state: been given by the Government to the Adult (a) whether it is a fact that sub-standard Education Programme, which is included in medicines are being ·supplied to the Central the Minimum Needs Programme in the Sixth Goverilment Health Scheme beneficiaries; Plan and the 20- Point Programme. The and objective of removal of illiteracy in the J 5-35 agc group is proposed to be achieved (b) if so, the details thereof and the through universalisation of elementary educa­ action Government propose to take in this tion, non-fonnal education and special sche­ regard ? mes for promoting functional literacy like the Rural Functional Literacy Project, Scheme THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI of Assistance to Voluntary Organisations working in the field of adult education, State YOGBNDRA MAKWANA) : (a) No, Sir. Adult Education Programme and involvement (b) Does not arise. of student and non-student youth through NSS and NYK respectively. In the Seventh Five Year Plan, a new scheme of Mass Number of Illiterates Movement for Functional Literacy is being 6902. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRlSHNAN: launched from the financial year 1985-86, Will the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased which envisages removal of illiteracy with the to state: active participation of students aDd Don· student youth and other educated sections of (a) number of illiterates in India as on 1 the society namely, retired Government per­

January t 1985 and the State .. wjse figures for sonnel, house-wives, teachers, employers in the l&JDe; both the organised and unorganised sector.

Statement Total P"pulation Illiterate Persons 4 37.514,855 • 69.914,734 Sl.S93.730 34,085,199 19,189.9" 107 Written Annvers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 108

.... ~. _-, -_ --_._._--- .--- -" --, 2 3 '4 ~.-.- ...... _.._. __ ... - -,.~ -_..... ,-... _----_ ... __ .__ .-., -...---_ ...... 5. Haryaria 12,922,618 8,252,720 6. Himachal Pradesh 4,280,818 2,462,531 7. J & K 5,987,389 4,390,613 8. Karnatakn 37,135,714 22,852,997 9. Kerala 25,453,680 7,528,948 10. Madhya Pradesh 52,178,844 37,634,276 11. Maharashtra 62,784,171 33.163,365 J 2. Manipur 1 ~420,953 833,335 13. Meghalaya 1,335,819 880.628 14. Naga)and 774,930 445,052

J 5. Orissa 26,370,271 ' 1'7,3 ~3,066 16. Punjab J6,788,915 9,928,566 17. Rajasthan 34,261,862 25,907,745 18. Sikkim 316,385 208,647 19. Tamil Nadu 48,408,077 25,770,418 20. Tripura 2,053,058 1,188,258 21. Uttar Pradesh 1,10.862,013 80,756,753 22. West Bengal 54,580,647 32,236,494 23. A & N Islands 188,741 91,420 24. Arunachal Pradesh 631,839 500,506 25. Chandigarh 451,610 159,030 26. D & N Haveli 103,676 76,021 27. Delhi 6,220,406 2,392,080 28. Goa, Daman, & Diu 1,086,730 470,978 29. Lukshadweep 40,249 18,084 30. Mizoram 493,757 198,072 31. Pondicherry 604,471 266,866

.-~.,--.-,-".-.-... Total 6,65,287,849 4,24,286,000

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[Trans/ationl Sarvodaya Express has been reduced and the reasons for reducing its speed; Daily Running of Sarvodaya Express (d) the difficulty in operating this train 6903. SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA: daily instead of running it twice a week; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (e) the Dumber of representations recei­ ved by the Railway Board for operating this (a) the nu~ber of sleeper coacbes provi­ train daily; and ' ded in the Sarvodaya Express running bet­ ween Ahmedabad and New Delhi; (fl the decision taken by Government thereon 1 (b) whether these are occupied fully or some of them remain vacant; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANS) LAL): '(a) Twelve second (c) tbe extent to which speed of tbe class and one AC two tier. 109 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26. 1901 (SAKA) Writ/en Answers 110

(b) They are fully occupied. (b) if so, what is the progress of the construction of the Project? (c) Speed of the train was reduced so as to increase the number of coaches. Conse .. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION quently journey time was increased by about AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ 2 hours. NAND) : {a) No, Sir.

(d) Due to shortage of coaches and (b) Does not arise. diesel engines. Introduction of a new Train between (e) and (f). A number of representa­ Bangalore and Trhandrum tions have been received from various organi­ sations. It has however not bt:en found 6906. SHRI V. S. VlJA YARANGHA­ feasible to increase the frequency on account VAN: WilJ the Minister of RA1LWAYS be of shortage of coaches and diesel engines. pleased to state:

[Eng/ish] (a) whether there is any proposal to introduce a new train between Bangalore and Procedure for the Yearly Survey of Small Trivandrum; Ships/Boats/Vessels at Kandla Port (b) if so, the detai1s thereof; 6904. SHRIMATI USHA THAKKAR: Will the Minister of SHIPPING' AND (c) whether any representation to this TRANSPORT be pleased to state: effect has been received; and

(a) whether. the fishermen owning small (d) if so, the reaction of the Government ships and boats in Kutch (Gujarat) have to thereto ? undergo compu1sory survey of their ships/ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS boat/vessels every year under the order of (SHRI BANSl LAL) : (a) No. Sir. Kandla Port Trust; (b) Does not arise. (b) if so, whether these Hshcrnlcn have to spend two-three days, foregoing their live­ (c) Yes, Sir. lihood for these survey works; and (d) It is not feasible due to lack of (c) if so, whether Government propose resources like coaches and locomotives. to fornlulate n simp1e procedure in this regard for Kandla Port to overcome the Proposal for a Shipping Service hardships of the fishermen '? hctween Cochin and Maldives THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 6907. SHRl P. A. ANTONY: Will the MINJSTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, POR T he plca~ed to state: Sir. (a) whether there is any proposal to start a Shipping Service between Cochin and (h) The survey is arranged at the minor port of Tuna in consultation with the fisher­ Maldives; and men on the da tes convenient to them when (h) jf so, the Llctai"" therc()[? they do not go Jor fishing. THE MINJSTLR OF SlATE OF THE (c) Does not arise. MINJSTRY Of,' SHIPPING AND TRANS­ PORT (SHRJ Z. R. ANSARI): (a) No. Pochampad Project Sir. (b) Does not arise. 6905. SHRI B. N. REDDY: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: Repr~sent8tions from All India Organisa­ tion of Ch"mists and Druggists (a) whether the' second stage of Sri Ram Pad Sagar (Pochampad) Project in Andhra {)908. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will Pradesh has been approved by the Centre; the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY and ' W ELFARB be pleased to state : 1'J 1 Written Answers MAY 16.1985 Written An,swers 112

(a) whether Government have received THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE many representations fronl the All India MINISTR Y OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ Organisation of Chemists and Druggists about PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a), The their problem; cumulative loss incurred by the' DeI.bi Ttans~ port Corporation as at the end: oli 31M, (b) whether Government have examined. March, 84 since its inception was Rs" 381.;8Q their representations; and crores. (c) if so, what steps Government propose (b) and (c), The Bureau, of Puetic to take in the matter ? Enterprises set up a study team with the following terms of references : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (a) To study and analyse the compara~ YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to' (c). ti ve performance of metropolitan road Certain representations were received from transport undertakings in the· cities~of the All India Organisation of Chemists and Delhi/Bombay! Madras/ Ahmedabad Druggists regarding the postponement of the on the basis of operational, financial enforcement of amendment to the Section 42 and managerial criteria; of the Pharmacy Act, 194K which prohibits compounding, preparing, mixing or dispensing (b) To investigate the cost of operations of any medicine by unregistered pharmacists of the undertakings including fixed/ after 1.9.1984. This ?rovision was originally variable cost items, particularly to be implemented with effect from 1.9.1981 maintenance, inventory and man­ but was postponed by a legislative amend­ power costs, of DTC vis-a .. vis the ment for 3 years on representations from other road transport undertakings; States and various organisations as adequate number of trained pharmacists were not (c) To analyse the internal and external available. The position was carefully re-exa­ factors responsible for difference and mined by the Government and it was decided varia tions in the performance of the that it would not be advisahle to postpone road transport undertakings; further the enforcement of Section 42 of the (d) To su_ggest remedial measures. both Act. short and long term, to improve performance and avoid losses in Study Committee Appointed to Enquire respect of the D.T.C. into tbe Causes of Loss to D.T.C. (d) and (e). The Study Team is yet to 6909. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- submit its report. WARA RAO: SHRI S. G. GHOLAP : Allotment of Plots of Land t. Railway.en SHRI SHANTA RAM POTDUKHE: 6910. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: to state: (a) the cumulative loss incurred by the (a) whether the Railways have a large Delhi Transport Corporation as on 31 March, amount of surplus land at Kharagpur on 1984 since its inception; South Eastern Railways, which is lying vacant for years; (b) whether any Study Committee was appointed to make indepth study of the (b) whether Government have received causes of losses to DTC and to suggest ways any proposaJ to allot suitable plot of land to and means to redu~e the losses and improve Railwaymen who have no quarter on proper its perfornlan<.:e; terms and conditions; and

Cc) if so, the details thereof; (c) if so, the reaction of Government thereto? (d) whether the suggestions were inlple­ monted; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Some pieces of (e) if so, tbe results thereof, if any? ~ vacant land arc available at Kharagpur. 113 .Wrillel,l An'we,~ VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) '14

(b) and (c). No, Sir. However, as per different cateaories of consumers ia Weat e:dant policy. railway land cannot be relin­ Bensal as compared to the tariff'. in otbor quished in favour of Railw_ymcn for cons­ States? truction of bouses.

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TB Due to Deficiency of Vitamin 'A' (c) The Seamen's Employment Board at ~ Calcutta is being revived to advise the Direc­ 6912. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the tor General of Shipping on the distril1l1tion Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY of available jobs on a more., eq~itable WELFARE be pleased to state: basis between the company roster and the general roster. On the recommendation of (a) whether due to malnutrition/deficiency Nanda Committee which was set up to go of Vitamin 'A' leprosy and tuberculosis is further into the question of unemployment fairly widespread in the country; and among seamen, the training of n~w spmen has been stopped. (b) if so, the steps Government are taking to remove the deficiency? (d) Yes. There are about 300 officers ho1ding the Second Mate Certificate who THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . are presently without jobs. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (e) The manpower requirement for the shipping industry is being continuously kept (a) Both TB and Lcporsy are infectious under rev iew. During the last two years the diseases and are caused by infection of Tube· graduate entry scheme of Directorate of rcle bacilli and M. Lapre respectively. There Marine Engineering Training has bee·n sus­ is no evidence to suggest that deficiency of pended; training period for Nautical Officers Vitamin 'At causes the spread of these two in T. S. 'Rajendra' was increased from onc disease. to two years in 1983 thereby reducing the intake by half; and from 1984 the i.ptake (b) In view of (a) above, does not arise. " into T. &. 'Rajendra' has been further redu­ ced from 125 to 70 cadets. PUght of Seamen Registered in Calcutta (f) Does not arise in view of (e) above. 6913. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN· DAL : Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND Rail Line from Kothagudem to TRANSPORT be plcased to state : Vijayawada (a) whether as a sequel to the recession in the shipping industry thc In~jan seamen 6914. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES­ are among the hardest hit, WARA RAO : Will the Minister of RAIL­ , WAYS be pleased to state : (b) whether the plight of the seamen (a) whether there is any proposal before registered in Calcutta is worse than that of those in Bombay; the Railways to construct a new Railway line from Kothagudem to Vijayawada via (c) if so, the steps Govcnment propose to Tiruvuru in Andhra Pradesh to help trans­ take to absorb these jobless Calcutta seamen; port of coal to Vijayawada Thermal Power Station as well as development of the back­ (d) whether there are also jobJess mari. ward areas along the proposed line; ,time officers; (b) when the survey work is likely to be (e) if so, whether Government are: re. ta ken up; and viewing the entire gamut of manpower plann­ ing in the shipping industry so that after (c) if not, whether the Railway Ministry training these young maritime oflkers are propose to consider the proposal in view of provided employment; and , its i_mportance and undertake survey of the (f) if not, the reasons tberef~)r? , work? THE MINISTER OF StATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF. RAILWAYS MINISTRY OF. SHIPPING AND TRANS .. ,(SHRI BAN,SI LAL: (a) No, Sir. PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) Yes. (b) Does not arise.

(b) Yes. T~e ratio of jops available to, (c) No, Sir. Due to severe constraint of the number of seamen is lower at Cakutta resources and heavy commitments already than at Bombay. in hand, there is no such proposal. 129 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

Setting up of more UNESCO Clubs financial assistance is occasionally provided to th~m for approved activities such as semi­ 6915. PROF. NARAIN CHAND nars, symposia, conferences, training pro.. PARASHAR : Will the Minister of EDUCA­ grammes, workshops, etc., on the subject of TION be pleased to state : education for international understanding, rights, (a) whether the United Nations Educa­ education for human teaching about probJems of peace, study of cultures of differ­ tional Scientific and Cultural Organisation ent countries and other activities related to clubs/Associations have made any significant Unesco's programmes. The Indian National headway during the past three years in the country; COmmission regularly supplies publications and other material of interest to these clubs. (b) if so, the name of such institutions Special kits and material is also sent to these as are functioning at present State-wise; clubs t.) enabJe them to celet~rale such events as UN Day, Human Rights Day, Literacy (c) whether the Indian Commission for Day, etc. Cooperation with Nations Educational, Social and Cultural Organisation and the Vacant Posts of Medical and Para Government would encourage the setting up Medical Personnel in Hospitals of more such clubs/associations in the coun­ try, especially in the States/regions not 6916. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : WHl covered so far; and the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Cd) if so, the outline of any programme chalked out or assistance offered in this (a) whether it is a fact that large number regard? of pOStS of medical and Para medical per.. sonnel are lying vacant in hospitals run by THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION the Central Government due to the ban on (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (8) and (b). Unesco recruitment; clubs/associations are voluntary organisations (h) jf so, whether Government are con5i· set up at different university centres, educa­ dering to exempt the essential services from tional and cultural institutions, etc., in the the pcrview of the ban orders; and country to promote the aims and objecth'cs of Unesco. The~e clubs/associations under .. (c) if not, how does the Go~ernment take activities aimed at dissemination of propose to ensure proper and satisfactory information about the programmes of medi<.'al facilities to the people? UNESCO and also organise activities in the fields of education, science and culture to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prOmote international understanding, coop­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI eration and world peace. YOGfNDRA MAKWANA) : (a) ~o (c). Even though there is a ban on recr~ttment, Apart from the Indian National Commis­ the immediate and inescapable requirements sion for Unesco, there are three voluntary or­ pertaining to the Ministry of Health are ganisations, viz., United Schools Organisation sympathetically considered by the Govern­ of India; Indian Federation of Unesco Clubs; ment and there is no ditll,uHy due to the and National Federation of Unesco Associa­ han. tions in India, which are functioning as apex bodies to coordinate and guide the activities of Unesco Clubs at the national level. These RaUwa y O"('r~bridge at 8blmal'aralD organisations maintain their own lists of (Andbra Pradesh) Unesco Clubs. 6917. SHRI VIJAYA KUMAR RAJU: (e) Ye5, Sir. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (d) Unesco clubs/associations are excep­ ted to run their activities and programmes (a) whether there is any proposal pend­ from within their own resources and meet all ing before the Railway Board to construct a their recurring expenditure from funds raised railway over-bridge at Bhimavaram in through their own efforts. However, partial Andhra Pradesh; and 131 Written Answerl MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 132

(b) jf so, by what time the project is (ii) Construction supervision of 2 likly to be taken up ? Ain-Touta/M·Sila

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 2. Iraq (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) The work of cons­ truction of road over bridge in )jeu of level (i) General Engineering and Resi­ 47 crossing No. 118 at Bhimavaram is already dent Engineering Services for a sanctioned work. Baghdad AI-Qaim Akashat Railway Project. (b) Plans and estimates for this road (ii Integrated Technical and 32 over bridge are under joint finalisation ~itb Economic Services for imple­ the State Government. mentation of project.

Projects Undertaken by IRCON (iii) Providing design and general 3 and RITES engineering services to the Iraqi Republic Railways, 6918. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased (iv) Baghdad Marshalling Yard 2 to state: Survey.

(a) the names of the projects undertaken 3. Ethiopia b~ ~ndian Railway Construction Company Limited (fReON) and by Rail India Techni­ (i) Techno-economic feasibility 2l :al and Ec~nomic Services Limited (RITES) study from Addis Ababa to In the foreIgn countries; Assab in Ethiopia

(b) the Indian manpower engaged in each 4. Jordan project; (i) Integrated Consultancy pack­ 58 (c) whether reservation policy for appoint­ age on monitoring of track ment of SC and ST is implemented by these by portable accelerometer. two Corporations; and (ii) Inspection for permanent way 2 (d) the number of SC and ST labourers meterial for Aqaba Railway sent abroad during the last one year by these Corporation. organisations? 5. Zambia THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (i) Assistance in 9 (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b). A State­ Technical and nlent is attached. Professional Services

(c) Yes, Sir. (ii) Providing services for 2 Chippata-Mchinji rail line Cd) The information is being collected and:will be laid on the Table of the House. 6. Ghana

Statement (i) Consultancy Services for 19 rehabilitation and improve­ (a) and (b). Names of onhand projects ment on periormance 0 f abroad along with Indian manpower engaged in these projects are as under: Ghana Railways. 7. Mozambique I Rail I"dia Technical and Economlc Sen'cies Ltd. (R1TES) Managemen t and professional 7 services in reactivating and .Name of Manpower reinforcement of Railways Project engaged 8. Sri Lanka 1. Algeria (i) Consultancy services for 81 (i) Engineering studies of El­ 5 improvement in Railway Khroub- 'Boucheeouf line. Workshop etc. 133 Written ..fnswers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

9, Zimbabwe 2. Lakahn Sen Out door Stadium at Maida -Completed. (i) Assistance in maintenance and 349 operation of National Rail- 3. Husain Shah Indoor Stadium at ways of Zimbabwe Maida - Completed. 4. Railway Hospital at Malda­ 11 Indian Railway Consiruct ion Completed. Company Ltd. (IRCON) 5. Service Commission Office at 1. Iraq MAIda-Completed. (i) Construction of Sections 3 & 4 376 of Mussayed-Kerbala .. Samawa 6. Khaltipur Khadi Training Railway Project including Centre -Completed. works of Signalling and Tele .. 7. Divisional Office Building at Communication. Maida --In progress.

(ii) Construction of High Speed 130 8. Majherat Swimming Pool Comp­ Branch line to Cement Factory lex: Foundation stone laid on at AI-Muthana. 9th Sept. '84 on cost share basis by Eastern, South EaSlern and 2. Algeria Metro Railway.

(i) Providing of rail facilities for 92 9. Sealdah-B. R. Singh Hospital­ Cement Plant at Saida. additional facilities for Cardiac treatment: Foundation stone laid on 26th Oct. '84. (ii) Construction of standard gauge 36 Railway line to serve Cement 10. Sir Gurudas Bandopadhyay Halt Plant at Benisaf. station on Kankurgachi Chord betwecn BaJlygunge and Dum 3. Saudi Arabia Dum In. Foundation stone laid on 26th Oct. '84. (i) Detailed design and Construc- 59 tion of major Maintenance 11. Sealdah Suburban Comp)ex: Workshop at Dammam. Foundation stone laid on 27th Oct. '84.

Foundation Stones Laid by Former 12. Howrah Suburban CompJex: Railway Minister in West Bengal Foundation stone 1aid on 27th in 1984 Oct. ·84.

6919. SHRI SATYAOOPAL MISRA 13. Setting up of a concrete plant Will the Minister of RAJLWA YS be pleased Depot at MaJda-Foundation to state: stone laid on 14.11.84.

(a) how many foundation stones were 14. Construction of new railway line laid in West Bengal during the yeaI' 1984 by Tamluk Dlgha - Foundation the then Railway Minister; stone laid on 4. S. 84, (b) the details tbereof; 15. Railway Station BuHding- Foundation stonc laid on 11.9.84 (c) what is the present position of those for the Digha Railway station. projects; and 16. Diversion line from SiJiguri In. to (d) the details thereof? New Ja)paiguri avoiding Siliguri THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Town - Foundation stone laid on (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) 18. 10.7.84.

(~) 1. R. P. F. Trainnina Centre at 17. Extension of Booking office by Maida - Completed. providing Waiting HaJJ. Cyclo l~S Wri t len Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 136

stand at Siliguri Town -Comple­ (b) if so, by what time; and ted. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 18. Lubricating oil filter manufactur­ ing plant at Maida Town­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Foundation stone laid lIn (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. 20.10.84. (b) Dose not arise. (c) and (d) : (c) For the lack of resources viz. coaches Item 1 to 6 of part 'B' completed. and locomotives. Item 7 : progress 80 per cent Abortion through Menstrual Regula­ Item 8 : The proposal could not be tion Method processed in 85~86. 6921. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH : Will Item 9 : The werk has been approved. the Mintster of HEALTH AND FAMILY The R. C. Board pile founda­ WELFARE be pleased to state: tion is in the progress. (a) whether abortion through the Men· Item 10 " The station was opened on strnal Regulation method is one of the most 17th Jan .. 85. hygenic, economic and expeditious;

llem 11 : Not approv~d duc to resource (b) what percentage of Government constrain t. hospitals in the motfusil areas equipped with Item 12 : Survey has been ordered. such equipment; and (c) what steps arc being taken to ensure Item 13 : It is proposed to call open that all sm:h hospitals are so equipped? Tenders for supply of concrete sleepers in Maida area from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Private firms. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI item 14 Item and 15 : PJanning Commis­ YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : ta) to (c). Menstrual regulation for termination of early sion have :so far not agreed to pregnancy up six weeks is wel1 the construl..:tiOI1 of Tamluk to a accepted Digha line. method. This is a simple and low cost pro­ cedure. Facility for Menstrual regulation is Item 16 : For diversion of the line available in most of the Government from SiJiguri to New Jalpai­ hospitals. States have been advised to extend guri, the State Government this facility in all Government hospitals. have not yet given their con­ sent to share cost. Matangiri Express and Connecting Bus Service to Digba on Howrab­ Irem 17 : Completed. Ha Idis Section Item 18 : Work has been frozen. 6922. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Introduction of a New Train between to state: .!'iew Delbi and Gorakhpur (a) the present position of the Matangiri 6920. DR. CHANL>~{A SHEKHAR TRIPATHI : Will the M nister of RAIL­ [xprt.:ss including connecting bus service to WA YS be pleased to stat; : Digha on the Howrah-Haldia Section of the South Eastern Railway; (a) whether. keepin~ in view the increase (b) what was the average daily income in the number of passengers between New froIn the train; and Delhi and Gorakhpur. Government propose to run a new train between New Delhi and (c) what was the average daily income Gorakbpur; of the connecting bus service to Digba 'l J37 Wrillen Answers VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) WrJlten AIU~'s 138

THE MIN1STER OF RAIL v.' A YS (SHRI (d) the action taken by Government to BANSI LAL) : (a) Matangiri Express bet­ ensure its speedy construction ? ween Howrab and Tamluk including bus service bas been discontinued due to meagre THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE number of passengers. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) The Indila (b) Train-wise earnings are not main­ Gandhi Institute of Medical Sciences has tained. been set up at Patna by the Government of Bihar. The Government of India has not (c) The average daily income of the committed any financial assistance for this connecting bus service was Rs. 270/-. Institute.

(b) The foundation stone of Institute Survey of Rail Lines in Keral. was laid by the President of India on 12th 6923. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will the February, 1983. Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (c) It has been reported that 60,000 sq. (a) the num1;)er of surveys conducted in feet built in area on the land allotted to the Kerala in respect of new railway lines in Institute has already been renovated and Kerala during the last five years; gastroenterology, hiomedical tests, radiology, ultra soundgraphy and endoscopic services (b) how many of such lines have been have been started from 15th of August. 1984. how many cases work has sanctioned and in The Roorkee University, who were engaged heen started; and to prepare a project report for the construc­ (c) the time by which the work is likely tion of Institute Building, Hospital, housing to be completed in respect of these lines? accommodation etc. have submitted their rer(·rt and the State Government propose to THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS complete the capital works in the Seventh (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Two Five Year Plan.

1. Alleppey~ Kayankulam. (d) Does not arise. 2. Trichur-Kuttipuram (Updating). [English] (b) One viz. extension of Broad Gauge line from Alleppey to Kayankulam has been DisparHy in Passengers Fares approved. 6925. SHRJ UTTAM RATHOD: Will (c) Its completion will depend on availa­ the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to bility of funds in the coming years. state :

[Trans/at ion] (a) whether tbere is a dispiirity in passen­ ger fares for the same distance in different Setting up of Indira Gandhi Institute sections of the railways; of MedJcal Sciences io Patna (b) if so, the justification to continue 6924. SHRI VIJAYKUMAR YADAV: this discrimination '! WiJl the Minister of HEALTH AND THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b). Norman, (a) whether there is a proposal to set up passnegers fares have been fixed on the basis Indira Gandhi Institute of Medical Sciences of actual distance involved in the route of in Patna at a cost of Rs. 80 cror~s; with the travel. However, on certain sections, such help of Union Government; as hi)) sections, the chargeable distances have been suitably inflated to partly cover the (b) if S09 whether the late Prime Minister higher cost of operation. Shrimati Indira Gandhi had laid its founda­ tion stone; Removal of Saty_.. y_ ..... Ran Track (c) if so, the position in regard to tbe construction work thereon; and 6916 SHRI V. SOBHANADREBSWAIlA 139 MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 140

RAO : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS and cost deposited by the State Government, be pleased to state : Vijayawada Municipal Corporation.

(a) whether a memorandum was submitted by the Mayor Vijaywada Municipal Corpora­ Assistance Provided to Shipping t ion to the Late Prime Minister on her visit Companies to Vijayawada on 23 March, 1984 requesting 6927. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: take to necessary steps for removal of Satya­ Will the Minister of Shipping and Transport narayanapuram Railway Track in Vijayawada be pleased to state : Municipal Corporation and which is not in use as the trains are being run on another (a) whether Government have been pro­ diversion line already laid; viding financial assistance to each individual shipping company; (b) whether. keeping in view of the impor­ tance and public convenience, Railways (b) if so, the amount of financial assist­ propose to remove the abandoned line at ance provided to each shipping company their cost and handover the site to the Cor­ during the last-three years; poration to enable them to connect it with the National Highway No.5; and (c) the financial resources of each shipping company as on 31st March, ]985; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? (d) the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF MINI­ (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. STRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) and (b). Out (bi and (c). On the existing alignment of a total of 72 shipping companies in India. near Satyanarayanapuram, which is sought to 29 are SOFe assisted companies. SDFC has be abandoned and land handed over to the been providing financial assistance in the Municipality, 14 pairs of trains are running form of rupee loans and interest subsidy on each way daily. It is not possible to abandon SAFANUS (Ship Acquisition From Abroad this alignment without creating alternative Under New Scheme) loans 'to these shipping facilities. The Railway had undertaken a companies. A 1ist of these shipping companies detailed survey in this regard at the requ­ alongwith details of rupee back up loans and est and cost of Vijayawada Municipal Cor­ SAFAUNS subsidy drawn by them for the poration. The estimated cost of providing last three years is given in statement. I alternative facilities will be Rs. 3.52 crores attached. and, as per extant rules, this cost has to be borne by the State Government!Vijayawada (c) and (d). the debt-equity ratio in Municipal Corporation. The Railways will respect of SDFC assisted companies is given undertake this work after estimate is approved in statement n attached.

Statement-I Details of subsidy under SAFAUNS given by SDFC to various Shipping Companies du,.;ng the years 1982-83 10 1984.85

(In Lakhs 0/ RupeeJ)

SI. N'ame of the shipping Company Subsidy given by SDFC Rupee Back-up loan Biven No. under SAFAUNS· by SDFC ,.--_--'-_ ,....- ---"",,-,--~ 1982 .. 83 1983-84 1984·85 1982-83 1983-84 1984-85

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

J. MIs. Essar Bulk Carriers Ltd. 65.29 154.65 48.05 291.50 579.05 478.80 (New Basar Shipping Co. Ltd.) 2. MIs. Oarware Shippiol Co. Ltd. 21.35 19.10 ...... 141 Wrillen Answer, VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) W'itt~n AIISw,"'" 142

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

3. MIs. Strimline Shipping Co. Ltd. 1.25 • •• ••• 4. MIs. Deccan Shipping Co. Ltd. • •• 5. MIs. Scindia Steam Navigation 29.18 41.75 27.95 Co. Ltd.

6. MIs. Dempo Steamship Ltd. 1.79 t ••

7. Mis. Tolani Shipping Co. Ltd. 6.16 16.62 1570 90.12 180.16 8. MIs. Panchsheel Shipping Co. Ltd. 9. Mis. Shipping Corpn. of India 371.23 1100.86 775.89 ... Ltd.

10. Mis. Chowgule Steamship Ltd. 52.26 83.12 S9.66 381.88

11. M/s. Indoceanic Shipping Co. 5.78 3.82 70.24 69.44 Ltd. 12. M/s. India Steamships Ltd. 19.26

13. Mis:' Surrendra Overseas Ltd. 57.75 95.13 76.20 123.14 14. M/s. Hinengo Lines Ltd. 1.39 1.45 1.73 15. M/s. Sagar Shipping Co. Ltd. 41.53 53.30

16. M/s. Karnataka Shipping Co. 7.01 0.95 S.08 ••• Ltd. 17. M/s. Mogul Line Limited 55 87 10.3] 114.73 18. M/s. South India Shipping 77.26 44.60 90.12 381.88 Corp. Ltd.

19. M/s. Varun Shipping Co. Ltd. 1.7] 6.70 • •• 20. Mis. Hede Navigation Co. Ltd. 9.48 10.94 21. Mis. Ratnakar Shipping Co. Ltd. 118.64

Total 737.10 1669.65 1302.87 414.64 739.41 1296.69

• The figures shown above relate to amounts paid by SDFC. These do not include amounts adjusted towards dues from Shipping Companies.

Statement-II

Debt Equity ratio Position in respect 0/ SDFC aSlsiled CompOIues

SI. No. Name of the company Debt equHy Jatio As on· ------",.-_._---- -_ .. - .. -., ---.-- I. COIDpanles who have Debt Equity Ratio wUhin Prescribed limit. 1. MIs. Chowgule Steamship Ltd. 5.98:1 31.3.1984 Z. Mis. Oreat Eastern Shipping Co. 1.40:1 30.6.1984. 143 Written Answer.f MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 144

3. M/s. Mangla Bulk Carriers Ltd. .5.66;1 31.12.1983 4. Mis. Tolani S'lipping Company Ltd. 3.07:1 31.S.1983 S. MIs. Garware Shipping Corporation Ltd. 3.56:1 30.9.1983 6. MIs. South India Shipping Corporation 1.38:1 31.7.1983 7. M/s. Essar Bulk Carriers Ltd. 5.65: 1 31.3.1983

11. Companies who have Debt Equity Ratio in Excess of the Presrlbed Limit :

1. Mis. Thakur Shipping Co. Ltd. 6.36:1 31.3.1983

2. M/s. Damodar Bulk Carriers Ltd. 129.94:1 31.3.1984 3. MIs. Nirvan Shipping Ltd. 6.95:1 31.7.1983 4. Mis. Shipping Corporation of India Ltd. 6.06:1 31.3.1983

S. Mis. Scindia Steam Navg. Co. Ltd. 6.13:1 30.6.1983

6. Mis. Varuo Shipping Co. Ltd. 17 .12~1 31.3.1984 7. Mis. Hinengo Lines Ltd. 36.99:1 31.3.1983

III. Companies who have no Equity : 1. Mis. Surrendra Overseas Ltd. Nil 31.12.1983 2. Mis. Mogul Line Ltd. Nil 3].3.1984 3. M/s. India Steamship Co. Ltd. Nil 31.3.1984 4. MIs. Ratnakar Shipping Co. Ltd. Nil 31.3.1984 5. Mis. Seven Seas Transportation Ltd. Nil 31.12.1983 6. Mis. Indoceanic Shipping Co. Ltd. Nil 31.12.1983 7. M/s. Hede Navigation Ltd. Nil 31.8.1983 8. Mis. Streamline Shipping Co. Ltd. Nil 30.6.1983 9. MIs. Dempo Steamship Ltd. Nil 30.6.1983 10. Mis. Deccan Shipping Ltd. Nil 30.6.1983

* The latest position as on 31.3.1985 is not available.

Level Crossings Trlchur-Man.feswaram Jevel crossings to the ever increasing road and Palgbat-Trivandrum traffic between Trichur and Manjeswaram; and 6928. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAM­ CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of RAIL­ (c) jf SOt tbe steps being formulated by WAYS b~ pleased to state : Government to overcome these obstacles 'I (a) how many level crossings are there on National Highway No. 17 between Trichur THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Manjeswarnm and how many are tbere MINISTRY Of RAILWAYS (StiRI on National Highway No. 47 between MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) There are Palghat and Trivandrum', 11 crossings' on National Highway No. 17 between Trichur and Manjeswaratn aDd one (b) whether Government are aware of level crossing on National Highway No.47 the difficulties and delays caused by these between PalJhat and Trivandrum. 145 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26, J907 (SAKA) W,llIen Answers 146

(b) and (c). Railways undertake construc­ over a large number of stations and more tion of road overlunder bridges in replace­ than one Zona) RaiJway. ment of existing busy level crossings, jointly with the State Governmont/Local Authority Funds for Development of Rall.,.y. on cost sharing basis. Construction of road In Kcrala over bridge in lieu of level crossing No. 168 on National Hiabway No. 17 bas already 6930. SHRI J. RAMA RAJ: Will the been included in the Railways' Budget for Minister of RA1LW A YS be pleased to state: 1985-86. The proposals for rep1acement of 4 other level crossing by road over /under (a) the total amount spent for the bridges are under joint examination with development of Railways in Kerala during State Government. the Sixth Plan; and (b) the allocation of funds therefor Issue of Passes to M/S. A. H. Wheeler made during the Seventh Plan ?

6929. DR. KRUPASINDHU BAOI THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRl to state : MADHAVRAO SCINDJA): (a) Rs. 51.47 crore. (a) the number of A. C., first class and second class complimentary passes issued to (b) Seventh Five Year Plan is yet to be Mis. A. H. Wheeler & Co.; finalised. However. outlay in 1985-86 is Rs. 6.3 crore. (b) whether it is a fact that the provision of issuing these complimentary .,asses was Neglect of Vocationnl Courses in Schools not included in the original contract; by the States

(c) jf so, what are the reasons to issue 6931. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will complimentary passes after the renewal of the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to contract; and state:

(d) what is the necessity of issuing these (a) whether a number of States and P3sses to Mis. A. H. Wheeler & Co. ? Union Territories are neglecting vocational courses in the Schools; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE M1NISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) jf so, the details thereof; MADHAVRAO SCINDJA) : (a) No compli­ (c) whether severa) States have diverted mentary passes have been issued to MIs. funds meant for this purpose to other sectors; A. H. Wheeler & Co. However, they have and been issued with the following number of journey passes : (d) if so, the remedial steps contempla­ ted by Government in this regard? Air-conditioned 1st Class lInd Class -.- '--"------_... _----- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Nil 29 29 (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). At present 9 States and 4 Union 'territories (b) There was a provision of issuing nameJy Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Gujarat. passes in the earlier agreements with MIs. Haryana, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharastra. A. H. Wheeler & Co. Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Andaman & Nic­ obar Islands, Delhi, Goa, Daman & Diu (c) Does not arise. and Pondicherry are offering in all more tban 120 vocational courses at the + 2 stqe witb (d) In order to ensure efficient and satis­ an annual intake of nearJy 60,000 students in factory management of bookstalls for the about J 600 in~titutions. T"e States of Uttar travelling public, Mis. A. H. Wheeler & Co. Pradesh. Orrisa, Bihar and the Union Terri­ have been issued journey passes for effective tory of Cbandigarh have aJso decided to and satisfactory supervision/operation and introduce vocational courses in scbool. from maintenance of bookstalls which are spread the academic session 1985-86. 148 147 "',ltllft Answers MAY 16. 1985 Wrltt,n A"I'*ttrS

(c) and (d). The Government have not (b) if so, the details tbereof and the provided any financial assistance to States! amount involved therein; and Union Territories for implementation of the (c) the time by which this programme voca tionalisa tion programme during the is like 1)' to be implemented 7 Sixth Five Year Plan. As such, tbe question of diversion of funds meant for vocational is­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE alion to other sectors does not arise. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. Banned Contraceptive for use of Women of Third World Cb) A work for provision of block rake handling facilities at Faizabad Station cost­ 6932. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI : Will ing Rs. 60.32 lakhs has been included in the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Budget 1985-86. The scope of the work in­ WELFARE be pleased to state: cludes provision of Block rake handling, siding, levelling of surface for unloading of (a) whether it is a fact that the Multi· national Drug Corporations are using women the goods and approach road. of Third World as guinea pigs by dumping (c) Completion of the work will depend the dangerous and banned contraceptive upon the availability of funds in the succeed- device known as 'Dalkon Shield'; and ing years. (b) if so, the corrective steps takenl propo~ed '! N. T. P. C. Units In U. P.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 693~. SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI: Will DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) and (b) be pleased to state: Drug Controller of India has not approved (a) the names of places where National marketing of the contraceptive device 'Dal­ Thermal Power Corporation have set up their kon Shield'. It is, therefore, not available for commercial use in the country. units in Uttar Pradesh so far; (b) the generating capacity and the power Steps to Curb spread of Alcoholism actually being generated by each of them; and 6933. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (c) the quantum of power being supplied WELFARE be pleased to state whether Gov­ to Uttar Pradesh by the National Thermal ernment propose to take steps on war footing Power Corporation from its units which are to curb widely spreading alcoholism in the located in Uttar Pradesh 7 country as have been taken in other countries THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE like USSR ctc. ? DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NEHRU) : (a) Singrauli Super Thermal DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI Power Station (2000 MW) and Riband YOGENDRA MAKWANA): Necessary STPS Stage-l 0000 MW) are being set up informa tion is being collected and will be by National Thermal Power Corporation in laid on the table of the Sabha. Uttar Pradesh. (b) Five units of 200 MW each at the [Translation] Singrauli STPS have been commissioned so far. The total energy sent out in 1984 .. 85 Expansion of Falzabad JUftdloD was about 46005 Jakh units. 6934. SHRI NIRMA L KHATRI: Will (c) According to NTPC, during 1984-85 the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to Uttar Pradesh conaumed about 36180 lakh state : units of electricity. (a) whether Government are aware that Daly Il-laa or Klsan Express Lucknow Division of Northern Railway S~~ It at RudauU StatiOll b.a~ prepa~ed a scheme for the expansion of falzabad Junction station; 6936. SHRI NJRMA~ KlfATRl : Will 149 Hir/llen Answ,rs VAtSAKflA 16, 1907 (SAKA) Wrillen Answers 1S0 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to (b) if so, tbe details thereof and funds state: provided for each work; (a) whether Government have received (c) whether the steps have been taken to any representation for running Kisan Ex­ improve the school building, construction of press (Northern Railway) daily; the new buildings and upgrade the school upto Higher Secondary level at Rayagada; (b) if so, reaction of Government thereto; and (d) if so, the details thereof;

(c) whether Government propose to (e) if not, the reasons therefor; and stop Kisan Express at Rudauli Station? (f) the works particularly the passenger THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE amenities and the welfare programmes to be MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI taken up during the Annual Plan 1985-86 MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. between the Rayagada and Kesinga Railway Stations? (b) The frequency of Kisan Express has been increased from twice a week to 4 days THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE a week w.e.f. 10.4.85 for the summer months. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI In addition, a summer special has been intro­ MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). duced between Ludhiana and Gorakpur The details of the improvement works carried twice a week to the same timi ngs of Kisan out at Rayagada, Titlagarh and Kcsinga Rail­ Express, thus providing 6 days service bet­ way Stations during the Sixth Five Year ween Ludhiana and East U. P. during the Plan period are given in the Statement summer. attached.

(c) This has been provided from 1.5.1985. (c) to (e). The existing school building is in good condition and has been maintain· ed welt. The accommodation availabJe in the [English] school building is considered adequate to the Development of Rayagada, Muniguda, present requirement. TitIagarh and Kesinga Railway The existing educational facilities at Stations (S.E. Rly) Rayagada are considered adequate and there· 6937. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: fore the proposal for upgradation of the Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Railway School upto Higher Secondary level to state: has been dropped. (a) whether the Waltair Division of South (f) The additional facil ities are provided Eastern Railway has prepared any develop­ on a programmed basis depending upon mental and improvemental programmes of availability of funds and comparative needs Rayagada, Muniguda, Titlagarh and Kesinga of various stations. No augmentation of Railway Stations during any financial year facilities is proposed on these stations dur.. of Si,tb Five Year Plan; ina J985-86.

Statemeot

Year Name of the work Approx. Cost

1 2 3

(I) Ray... da Statloa 1981-82 Cycle Stand Rs. 25,000 1982-83 (i) Improvement to Wai'Jna Room and Rt.60,OOO Rctirina Room faciUtj~ \ 151 Written Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 152

1 2 3

(in Cover over Foot over bridge Rs. 25,000

1983-84 Provision of RCC benches Rs. 3,000

(II) Titlagarh Station

1981·82 (0 Cover over foot over bridge Rs. 60,000 (ij) Extension of booking· cum-parcel office Rs. 30,000

(iii) Public Addrcss System Rs.25,000 1982-83 Improvement to Waiting Room and Retir­ Rs.60,000 ing Room facilities 1983-84 Provision of RCC benches Rs. 3.000

(III) Kesinga Station 1980-81 Tea Stall Rs. 16,000 1981-82 U) Platform cover 100 ft. long Rs. 1,00,000 (ii) Extension of booking-cum-parcel office Rs.50,000 Provision of RCC benches Rs. 2,000

Development of Tribal Languages office of the Ministry has taken up 57 tribal 6938. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : languages/dialects for linguistic description Will th\: Minister of EOUCATION be pleased and materials production. The Tribal to stalc : Research Institutes in the States also take up preparatIOn of primers and reading (a) the number of languages spok~n in materials in major tribal languages and the country in written and oral forms; dialects.

(b) the m~asures taken by Government (c) A statement giving this information and the Stales fur the dcvc!opnlent of tribal is attached. language/dialects which are still ill oral form; (d) and (e). Since the promotion and tc) the names of the tribal languages development of regional languages including which have got own scripts and the financial tribal languages is the responsibility of State assistance provl\,ied hH their development so (Jovernments, information about the schemes far; being implemented by them is likely to be available with the State GO\lernments. Cd) whether the States having consider­ able number of tribal population have taken Statement any steps to develop the written and or at tribal languages and introduced the.~1! 111 A'ames of Iribtli languages which have schools to teach the tribal students; and got their own ,.,cripls, as per infor­ mation available with the Central (e) if so, State-wise details th~ reof ? Institutt of Indian languages, Mysore

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Roman Script (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) Accordi 18 to the Census of India 1971 the identifiable mother Mizo of Mizoram, Khasi and Garo of tongues which return ':! J 10,000 o· more Megbalaya, Ao, Angami, lotha and other speakers ea~h at the All India Level ue 106. Nap languages of Nagaland, Tanghkhul. Mao, Hiar. Thadou and other triballaoluaaes (b) The Central Institute of ,Indian of Manipur, Karbi (Mikir), Mising (Miri) Lanluaaes, Mysore, which is a subordinate and sonle other tribal languages of Assam l53 Written Answer, VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 are written in Roman though the Assam Malayalam Script Government's policy is to write them in Assamese script. The Car Nicobarese of Kuruba and Panian of Kerala. Andaman and Nicobar Islands is written in Government's policy is Roman though the Details of f,nancial Assislance to use Devanagari. provided during fast Five Years

De,aoagarl Script Under the scheme of Assistance to Adi, Apatani, Mishmi, Nishi, Nocte and Voluntary Organisations for the development other languages of Arunachal Pradesh, Bodo of Indian languages including tribal, tbe of Assam, Gondi, Halbi of M. P., Kurukh t'ollowing amounts have been sanctioned (Craon), Mundari and Santali in Bihar and during the Sixth Plan period : Ho of Orissa.

DeogaU Script· Year Tribal languagel Amount dialect t.anction lRs.. )

Maithei (Manipuri) of Manipur, Kok Borok ---...... -...... _-~- ..-- .. - (Tripuri) of Tripura, Santhali of West Bengal Santali is also written in Roman and in 01 1980-81 Sora 10,000/- Chiki a native script invented by Sri Raghu­ Chakma nath Murmu. 1981-82 2,403/- Mundari 6,000/- Oriya Script Group of J 1 dialects 10,000/- Kuvi, Sora, Ho and Santali of Orissa. Sora of Orissa also has a native script invented by Sri Mangal. Similarly Ho has a native script. 1982-83 Sora 10,000/- Santhali 14,000/- Gujarati Scrfpt Group of 11 dialects 20,000/- of Orissa Warli of Dadra & Nagar Haveli.

Perso-Arabic Script 1983-84 Boro 8,148/- Group of 11 dialects 30,000/- Gojri, Shina, Balti and Broskat of J&K. of Orissa Tibetan Script 1984-85 Group of 11 dialects 20,000/- Ladakhi of J & k, Bhutia of Sikkim and of Orissa Monpa of Arunachal Pradesh. SanthaJi 14,000/- Native Scripts --- Total J,44,551/- Limbu of Sikkim. --- Telugu Scrip t There is, in addition, a full fledaed unit Gondi and Desia of Andhra Pradesh. for Tribal and Border Languages in tbe Central Institute of Indian Languages whicb KUDada Script carries out research and material production.

Jenu Kuruba, Soliga and Kodagu of Kama taka and Dadaga of Tarnilnadu. Construction of Ran"ay Platform at Bally Station Tamil Script 6939. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS Tulu, Kota, Badaga and Vakri Doli of MUNSI :Will tbe Minister of RAILWAYS Tamilnadu. be pleased to atate : 155 Written Answer, MAY 16, 1~$' Written ~e'$

(a) whether he has received representa­ (c) whether the cause of fire was enquired tion regarding construction of railway into; platform at Ba1Jy Station on Eastern Railway jf for Howrah- Burdwan chord line train (d) so, the details thereof; stoppage; and (e) whether any sabotase was suspected; and (b) if so, the action taken by Govern­ ment thereon ? (f) what preventive measures are being taken by the Railways to check recurrence THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of such so incidents ? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) A proposal for provision of platform MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) On at Bally for Howrah· Burdwan chord line has 20.4.1985, army ammunition loaded in wagon been prepared for inclusion in 1986-87 No. 28604 exploded and consequently the Works Programme subject to availability of wagon caught fire during shunting operations funds. in Tugblakabad Marshalling Yard. One more wagon which was adjacent to this also caught Introduction of Trains from V ikbroli fire. and Mulund to Bombay V. T. dUring Peak Hours (b) There was no loss of life. The damage to Railway property bas been asses­ 6940. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE sed approximately at Rs. 83,500/- Will the Minister of RAILWA YS be pleased to state whether Goverment propose to in­ (c) to (e). A Departmental Enquiry is troduce trains from Vikhroli to Bombay being conducted into this accident. The cause V. T. and from Mulund to Bombay V. T. of fire, the details thereof and whether or not during peak hours? it was a case of an)l sabotage will be known on finalisation of the report of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Comrnittt'c. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : No, Sir. (f) This will depend on the findings of the Enquiry Committee.

Fire in Goods Tra in Carrying Army Introduction of Additional Passenger Ammunition l'ughlakabad Yard in Trains in Cbakradharpur DhisioD 6941. SHRI B. V. DESAI: of S. E. R. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : 6942. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: state : DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR (a) the number of passenger trains which TRIPATHI: are funning in Cbakradharpur Div ision of SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: South Eastern Railway;

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (b) whether Government have a proposal pleased to state: to introduce some additional passcn&er trains in Cbakradharpur Division; (a) whether a railway wagon carrying (c) if so, whether a passenger train is army ammunition was blown to pieces and proposed to be introduced between Tatanagar two others damaaed when a fire broke out and Banspani; and in a BOods train in the railway yard of the TugbJakabad Station on the 20th April, (d) if so, when the proposal is likely to 1985; be implemented 1 (b) if so, the extent of damage and loss THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE '0 the railway property; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 151 Written An.rweTJ VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SARA) Written Answers IS8

MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Twenty (c) The Ministry of shipping and Trans.. pairs of passenger trains besides 17 pairs of port is not aware of any such renting of ship. Mail/Express trains. motor boat or trolly to M/s. I. T. C. by any Government body. (b) Not at present. (d) Does not arise. (c) and (d). Do not arise. (Translation] Foreign Assistance for Ib Valley Delbl .. Amrltsar National Highway Project 6945. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will 6943. SHRJ HARIHAR SOREN: wm the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER PORT be p1eased to state: be pleased to state : (a) whether keeping in view the high (a) whether Governmeflt have sought incidence of road accidents on National external aid for implementing lb Valley Super Highway between Delhi and Amritsar. Thermal Power Project in Orissa; and Government propose to divide it into two­ way traffic road and plant trees etc. on the (b) if so, the amount of external aid raised space dividing the road; and likely to be made available for that project? (b) if so, the total amount to be spent THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on this work during th is year and the time DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN by which the entire work wiJI be completed? NEHRU) : (a) and (b). Government of Orissa have proposed various sources of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE financing, including external assistance. for MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ the Ib Valley Thermal Power Project. A PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSAR1): (a) Keep­ decision regarding financing the project can ing in view the high intensity of traffic bet· be taken when it has been approved by the ween Delhi and Amrjtsar on National High­ Planning Commission. way No.1, the work of providing 4-Jaoe divided carriageway has a1ready been taken up alongwith plantation of shrubs and trees. Renting of Ship etc. by Government Body to MJs. J. T. C. Ltd. (b) An initial budget provision of Rs. 270.75 lakhs has been made during tbe 6944. SHRT RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : current financial year 1985-86. No time frame Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND can be indicated as it will depend on the TRANSPORT be pleased to state: availability of financial resources in the sub­ sequent years. (a) whether Mis. I. T. C. Ltd. has entered in shipping business; Conversion of Lucknow-Pllibblt. (b) if so. the details of each ship owned Tanakpur Rail Line into Broad by Mis. I. T. C. Ltd. and date of acquiring Gauge of such ships by the company; 6946. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will (c) whether any Government body has the Minister of RA'LWAYS be pleased to given ship or motor boats or trollies on rent state : to Mis. I. T. C. Ltd.; and (a) whether there is a provision in the (d) if so, the details thereof? 1985-86 Railway Budget to convert Lucknow­ Pilibhit-Tanakpur rail line into broad gauge THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE line; MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) (b) if so, the amount earmarked for thjs No, Sir. However they acquired two deep·sea purpose; and fishing trawlers in 1977. (c) if not, time by which this important (b) Does not arise. liDe paIIioa throuab central parta of Uttar J59 Written Answerf MAY 16,1985 Written Answers 160

,Pradesh is likely to be converted into broad THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION puae line 1 (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) to (c). It is not possible to indicate at this stage the Dumber THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and locations of Kendriya Vidyalayas MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (Central Schools) to be opened in 1985~86. MADRA VRAO SCINDIA) : (8) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. (b) No such proposal is under considera. tion of Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan. (c) There is no proposal for conversion of the suggested M G section into BG, due to severo constraint of resources and heavy (English] commitments already in hand. Average Capacity Utilisation of Major Ports Central Schools in Trans-Yamuna Areas or nelhf 6948. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ 6947. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: PORT be pleased to state: SHRI JAIPRAKASH AGAR­ WAL: (a) whether there were imbalances among major ports in regard to the average utilisa­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION be tion of port capacity during the last three pleased to state : years;

(a) whether there is a proposal to open (b) if so, the deta its of the average port some more Central Schools in Delhi in the capacity utilisation in different major ports 'near future; during the last three years;

(b) if SOt the number of the Central (c) the major causes for such imbalances Schools proposed to be opened~ and under-utilisation of capacities in some ports; and (c) whether some of these proposed Central Schools would be opened in the new (d) the steps, if any, taken or proposed trans-Yamuna cl)lonies also; and to ensure more rational utilisation of port capacities in future? (d) if not, whether Government would consider immediately introduction of 10 plus THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 2 classes in Central School of AGCR Colony MiNISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ in trans-Yamuna area and also introduce PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) to (c). classes upto 10th standard in the other The capacity utilisation of the Ports during Central School of that area '! the last three years was as under:

Percentage Capacity Utilisation . -'------_... _------Port 1982-83 83-84 84-85 - .... ,---'.. _------."." -.. _---- , ...,,------_------' Calcutta 82.91 70.73 67.27 Haldia 64.06 61.45 73.25 Paradip 54.03 36.55 44.12 Vizag 90.16 91.52 77.07 Madras 77.69 82.99 91.41 Tuticorin 65.25 65.14 69.17 Cochin 104.77 77.53 55.13 New Mangalore 25.08 30.53 36.34 Mormugao 80.50 83.34 90.12 Bombay 153.39 149.94 96.0 Kandla 96.93 108.51 77.97 Total ------Capacity Utilisation 87.49 87.21 78.07 161 WrItten Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Wrlt/~" AnlWt''' 162

The under utilisation of capacity at (ii) Erratic supply of coal wasona and Paradip and New Mangalore was largely due non-synchronisation of arrival of to under utilisation of the captive facilities coal rakes and colliers; for iron ore, because there has been serious recession in the international iron ore market. (iii) non-ayaHability of conventional four­ Bombay Port worked far beyond its capacity wheeler wagons which only can be because of available infrastructure facilities handled by lthe mechnjcal coal hand .. such as rail and road transport, bunched ling plant at Calcutta. arrivals of vessels due to shipowners and shippers preferences based on the facilities Haldia developed by /availabJe to them at Bombay. (i) repeated receipt .of lumby coal, stones and boulders, un-suitable for (d) In order to avoid imbalances in handling through the coal plant, capacity utilisation of parts, the Standing causing damage to the plant and Committee on the Rationalised Distribution machinery; of Cargo of this Ministry meets once in a , quarter to allocate Government importsl (ij) idle time due to grizzly cleaning. exports in a rationalised manner among various ports so that under utilisation of (iii) non-availability of adequate number available capacities is reduced and pressures of wagons; on over busy ports re1eased to the extent (iv) inadequate/irregular nomination of possib1e. vessels by the user agency.

(c) The average level of capacity utilisa­ Utilisation of Coal Handling Facilities tion is 20 per cent at Calcutta and 50 per at Calcutta and lialdia Ports cent at Haldia.

6949. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: Will (d) The Calcutta Port Trust have taken up the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ with D.G. Shipping and India... Coastal PORT be pleased to state: Conference for increased availability of ships for movement of coat from Calcutta Steps to (a) whether the coal handling facilities at increase coal handling capacity at Haldia, Calcutta and Haldia ports are under utilised; including modification of the existing coal handling plant and conversion of the ore (b) if so, the main reasons for low per­ handling plant for handlihg coal. regular formance of the coal handling facilities at nomination of vessels by Tamil Nadu Electri­ Calcutta and Haldia ports; city Board, despatch of proper sized coal from the collicries arc also being taken. The (c) the average level of utilisation of performance is monitored on a daily basis, such facilities; and and bottle necks attended to.

(d) the steps taken or proposed to im­ prove the performance of coal handling at News Item Captioned "New Hope for Calcutta and Haldia ports? Asthama Patients" 6950. DR. G. S. RAJ HANS : Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ WELFARE be pleased to state: PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) and (b). The coal handling facilities available at (a) whether Government's attention has Calcutta and Haldia are not being utilised to been drawn to a news item captioned uNew the optimum level. The main reasons for hope for Asthama patients" appeared in below optimum utilisation of facilities at Indian Express dated 24 April, 1985; Calcutta and Haldia are as under: (b \ if so, the details of the said new device; Calcutta (c) whether the similar device will be (0 Non-availability of suitable colliers introduced in the other Central Government pliable in low draught in Hoogbly; hospitals aJso; and 163 Written Answers MAY 16, 1985 Wrlttell AnSWtrs

(d) if so, by when and to what extent (c) and (d). Do not atise. the asthamatic patients will get relief from this disease? Manthes... r Rail"., Workshop, OtHn 6952. SHRTMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pJeased DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI to state: YOGBNDRA MAKWANA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) the estimated cost of Mancheswar (b) The Mini Peak Flow Meter is a Railway Workshop, Orissa; simple device which has now been developed in India and is available in the market. It (b) whether the workshop has become helps in monitoring the severity of airway fully operational; obstruction in patients with asthma. It is not a remedy in itself bu t only a monitoring (c) if so, since when, and device for recording the efficacy of the treat­ (d) if not, the reasons therefor 7 ment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) and (d). Most of the chest centres MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and clinics in India have equipments (mostly MADHAVRAO SCIND1A) : (a) The sanc­ imported) to assess airway resistance of the tioned e5timated cost is Rs. 18.15 Crores. patients. As already stated, these equipments by themse1ves do not cure asthma; they only (b) to f.d). The workshop initially became enable the physi.cian to assess the severity of operational for corrosion repairs of coaches the disease and periodically monitor the in April' 83 and coaches after periodical efficacy of the treatment. overh~ul were first turned-out in Feb'84. The present level of the out-turn of the periodical overhaul of coaches is two units (Four Institutional Finance for Super Thermal Wheeler) per working day. Power Projects The capacity of the workshop wm be 6951. SHRIM A TI JAY ANTI PATNAIK : progressively increased to eight units per day Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND by additional inputs during the VlIth Plan POWER be pleased to sta te : period, depending upon the availability of funds. ,8) whether his Ministry proposes to avail of institutional finance from IDBI through newly established power Generation Generation of Power in Orissa In Corporation to execute some Super Thermal Seventh Plan Power Projects; 6953. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: {b) whether such type of institutional Wi1l the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state: finance had been taken earlier for some other power projects; (a) whether the Central Electricity Autho. rity has made any revised forecast on the (c) if so, whether Government proposes generation of power in Orissa during the to avail similar institutional finance for pro­ Seventh Plan period; and posed Talcher Super Thermal Power Station. Oris~a; and (b) what are the basis on which the power generation assessmen t has been made (d) the steps taken in this regard? by Central Electricity Authority? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN NEHRU) : (a) There is no newly established NEHRU) : (a) and (b). The power generation power generation corporation. assessment in respect of Orissa has been reviewed by the Twelfth Power Survey Com­ (b) lOBI assistance has not been mittee headed by the Chairman, Central obirAineJ for any power project in the Central Electricity Authority. The enecsy availability Sector. in utilities bas been assessed as 7839 MU 165 Wrllllll "_'wers VAISAKliA 26. 1901 (SAkA) Wrltltn Answers 166 bMed QO f~ctorS, ,Iuch as capacity additions, question of sanctioning any grants to the pl.-mt a:vailability and utilisation norms, bene­ University can be considered only after the Rts likely to accr.ue from central sector and University is declared fit to receive such other pr,ojec.ts, etc. assistance.

Bogies Reduced in Parasutam Express Facilities Pro'\'ided to Children under Community Aid and Sponsorship 6954. PROF. P. J. KURIEN: Will the Programme Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to state : 6956. SHRJ EDUARDO FALEIRO (a) whether the number of bogies in the Will the Minister of SOCIAL AND Pal asuram Express running in Kera)a ha ve WOMEN'S WELFARE be pleased to state: been reduced from sixteen to eleven; (a) whether the 'Community Aid and Sponsorship Programme' has been introduced (b) if so, the reasons therefor; in some parts of the country and if so, (c) whether Government are aware that what faci1ities are provided to children under programme; the rush in this train is increasing day·by­ the day; and (b) what is the amount of expenditure expected to be incurred in a year; and (d) if so, whether the number of bogies is proposed to be restored to sixteen ? (c) whether there is any pJan to introdm..."e this programme in other parts of the country THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE also and jf so, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF THE MINJSTR Y OF SOCIAL AND WOMENtS (b) Does not arise, WELFARE (SHRIMATI M. CHANDRA­ (c) Yes, Sir. SEKHAR) : (a) The Ministry of Social and Women's Welfare has no such Scheme. (d) It is already scheduled to run with 16 coaches. (b) and (c). Does not arise.

ProposaJ to get Financial Assistance to Gulbar_ga University in Ka~taka [Translation]

6955. SHRI H. G. RAMULU : Will the Setting up of RaiJway Zone in Bihar Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to 6957. SHRI VlJAY KUMAR YADAV : state: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) whether any proposal for financing GuJbarga University in Karnataka is pending (a) whether there is a 100g standing before the University Grants Commission; demand for setting up a Railway Zone in and Bihar with a view to expand railway. f.acilities in the State and providing employmept in (b) if so, the details thereof? Railways to the people of Bihar; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (b) if so, the reasons for delay in this (SHRI,K. C. PANT): (a) and (b). The regard? Gulbarga University established in 1980 is yet to be declared fit by the UGC to receive THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE assistance from the Commission under Section MIN1STRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 12-8 of the UGC Act, 1956. The Commis .. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). sion has s~ggested certain amendments to Yes, Sir. The demand for formation of a t he Act of t,be University before it can be new zone in Bihar was remitted to the declared fit. The State Government's decisiolJ Railway Reforms Committee tor their consi· on these s,ugesti9DS is still awaited. The deration. The Committee after carefully con- 161 Written Answerl MAY 16, 1985 Written AnJ'K'erl 168 sidering all the aspects have not made any Andhra Pradesh Government for preparation rfCOmmendation .in this regard. and formulation of project report, identifica­ tion report as per the criteria and standards of World Bank regarding investigation planning, (English] design, economic, analyses in respect of New Railway Line I'rojects "PulichintaJa Balancing Reservoir" to protect the Riparian rights of 130 years old 13 lakh 6958. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA­ Acres Ayacut under Krishna Barrage at SHAR : Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS Vijayawada; and be pleased to sta te : (b) if not, the reasons therefor 1 (a) whether any of the new railway line projects included in the Works Programme of THE MINISTER OF lRRIGATION the Railways for the year 1984-85 has not AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ been included in the Works Programme for NAND) : (a) and (b). The Government of the year 1985-86; Andhra Pradesh have not proposed inclusion of the Pulichintala Balancing Reservoir Pro­ (b) if SOt the details thereof, zone-wise, ject in the pipeline for World Bank assistance. and the reasons therefor; Hence question of preparation of the project (c) whether the allocations for the on­ report. Identification report as per criteria going projects for the year 1985-86 has been and standards of World Bank does not arise. reduced as comp~red to the previou5 year 1984-85; and Scheme of Financing Non-Formal (d) whether Government would ensure Education Centres in Orissa that all such project which were taken up during the Sixth Plan are completed in the 6960. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOJ Seventh Plan ? Will the Minister of EDUCATION be plea­ sed to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) whether Government have discon­ MADHA VRAO SCINDJA): (a) and (b). tinued the scheme of financing fresh noo­ White no new project for 4 New Line, inclu­ formal education centres for women in ded in the Works I)rogramme for 1984-85, Orissa; has been deleted in the Budget for 1985-86, the on-going work of Kalka-Parwanoo (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (Tipra) N~w Line (4.3 kms) on the Northern Railway, has been dropped, on the advice of (c) the steps proposed to be taken to the Himachal Pradesh Govtrnment. continue the scheme?

(c) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K. C. PANT) (a) No, Sir. (d) The Seventh Five Year Plan has still not been finalised. The completion of on­ (b) Does not arise. going works will therefore depend on the resources made available in the Seventh (c) The scheme continues to be in ope­ Plan. ration.

T ecuica) Aisistanee to Aodhra by Indo- Soviet Protocol on Shippin:: C.W.C. 6961. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: 69S9. SHRI V. SOBHA'\J"ADREESWARA Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND RAO: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION TRANSPORT be pleased to state: AND POWER be pleased !o state: (a) whether a Protocol has been signed (a) wb ether Government propose to between India and Soviet Union on shipping; direct the Central Water Commission to ren­ der lcx;hnicnl assistance and guidance to the (b) if so, the details thereof; and 169 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26. 1907 lSAKA) Written Answer& 170

(c) the steps proposed to be taken to Allotment of Book Stalls to Mis A. H. improve the shipping between the two Wheeler It Co. and f+.1/s. HYDllm countries? Botham " Co.

6962. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ to state : PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) A Proto­ col was signed at the conclusion of the 7th (a) whether Mis. A. H. Wheeler & Co. Session of the Indo-Soviet Join t Committee and Mis. Hyngim Botham & Co.,. have been on shipping on 12.4.1985. a Hotted the contract of book stalls at 275 Railways stations each, for the 9 years from (b) and (c). Som e of the more impor­ 1 January t 1Y85; tant decisions arrived at are as follows: (b) whether the other vendors of diffe­ rent nature on the same Railways Stations (1) The Soviet and the Indian sides have been alJotted the contract for three agreed to take further measures to years; improve turnround time of Indian and Soviet vessels in the ports of (c) if so, what are the specific reasons both the countries. for this discrimination; and

(2) Both the sides expressed satisfac­ (d) whether Government arc considering tion in the maintenance of parity in the proposal of uniff()m contract for aU the liftings and earnings in general vendors either for three years or nine years during 1984. to remove the disparity among the exisiting vendors? (3) With a view to reduce the delay of Soviet tankers at Indian Ports, the THE MINJ5TER Of' STATE IN THB Soviet side were requested to deploy MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI smaller tankers. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) The Book­ stall contracts of ~1/s. A. H. Wheeler & (4) It was agreed that fertilisers, rich, Co. & Mis. Higginbotham and Co. respec­ sulphur and oil cakes will continue tively at 265 and 48 Railway stations have to be shipped on liner basis instead been only renewed each for a further period of on charter party or other terms. of nine years form 1.1.1985. (b) Catering/Vending contracts on the (5) Tbe cargoes being shipped from Railways were previously allotted for a India to Afghanistan via Black Sea tenure of 3 years. A policy decision has were also included in the party. been taken to enlarge the tenure of these contracts from 3 year!) to 5 years, whicb (6) Regarding outstanding claims' perta­ will be given effect from the next renewall ining to demurrage/despatch of rice fresh award of the contra,·t:). shipments and daims of shortage of earlier shipments of fertilisers, it (c) Prior to 1967, the tenure for the was agreed that the receivers and Bookstall contracts of Mis. A. H. Wheeler buyers may contact each other and & Co. and Mis. Higginbotham was five set Ie the issues. years like that of other Bookstall contractors, but they had an 'automatic renewal' clau~ (7) Both the sides noted that improve­ in their agreements. Consequent upon th~ ment in packaging was essentail for decision to eliminate the 6 automatic renewal' reducing damages to cargo while in clause, which would have otherwise perpetu­ transit. ated these contractors of the railways, tbe matter was negotiated Vi ith the contractors, (8) The Soviet side agreed to give pre· in consultation \\'ith the Union Ministry of ference to Indian ships over third Law, who agreed to the deletion of tbe above country ships in alJoltina tbird clause in their qreemonta, provided they country caraoes. were liven lonaer term of 9 years. 171 Wr.ilten A/uwers MAY 16. J985 172

(d) No, Sjr. Private Blood 8aab • tbe C~al

lllgber Education Progr.aIDDle througb 6964. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Television WHI the Minister of HEALTH AND F AMILY WELFARE be pJeased to state : 6963. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Will the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased (a) the numbers of blood banks operating to state: in the Capital under private control and since when; (a) .,thc details of the progress achieved fctPrding relay on Tt:levision of programmes (b) does the Government exercise adequate on higher education sponsored by Univer­ check to see that (i) the quality of blood is sity Grants Commission; of requisite nature; (ij) it is prQperly $lored; (iii) it is sold at controlled prices and (iv) (b) the total number of direct reception the donors are not professionaJs; and sets installed so far and at what stations; (c) the number of cases where the blood (c) the total expenditure for the period issued by these banks proved fatal to the ending December, 1984; and patients during the last two years and action ,(d.) the subjects covered so for '! taken by Govf'rnment ? THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE (SHRLK. C. PANT) : (a). Transmission of a DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI one-hour programme on higher education YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Names through INSAT -IB and Doordarshan net­ of blood banks operating in the Union Terti­ work oommenced from August 15, 1984. The tory of Delhi under private control alongwith programmes are transmitted between 12.45 the date of issue of licence are as under: P.M. and 1.45 P.M. A repeat telecast of those ,programmes ,between 4 P.M. and Name of blood bank Date of issue of S P.M. started on popular demand from licence February 16. 1985. ''The programmes presently telecast· il\Clude these produced by the Inedia 1. Blood Bank Organisation, 29.4.1961 eoatres developed by the UGC, and those Pusa Road, New Delhi obtainod from other agencies within the country and abroad., Programmes for telecast 2. Blood Transfusion Centre 3.3.1964 upto the end of June 1985 have already Hanuman Road, New Delhi been capsuled. 3. South End Blood Bank, 14.7.1980 (b) No direct reception sets have been ,East . of Kailash New insta lied in univfftities and colleges for Delhi. reeeivirtg these programmes. As the tel~casts are 'relayed by Doordarshan Transmitters 4. Sunil Blood Bank, Wazir 10.2.1983 through INSA T .. IB atl colleges/universities Nagar~ New Delhi. within the range of Doordarshan transmitters S. G. K. Medical Centre, 23.6.1984 are beiug supported by the Commission for Greater Kailash Pt. II, plQCUremeDt of normal (V. H. F.) Colour T-V New Dolhi. receivers. (c)'·The total pants sanctioned for the (b) Yes Sir. The Drug Control Organi .. development of media centres is Rs. I.S3 sa Hon of Delhi Administration exercises erores till December 1984. adequate check. to see that tbe blood is of requisite. nature and stored properly; There (d) The programmes. preacntly tJansmitted is no price control on the sale of human .re not related to any ipecific part of tbe blood; All tbe blood banks have to obtain atrricula of university C0urses. These . are in blood from human beings who are free from t.~ _lure of urichment programmes on diseases transmittable by blood transfusion topics in ditfcFCRt' disciplines to provide aftd whose heamoglobin content is not less b ...... d tb of koo~ and awareness. than 8 S per cent I 173 Written Answer' VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Wrltt~ AttIWlrs 174

(c) No sucb case has been reported to the targets fixed for carrying out sterilitation Drug Control Orgo. of Delhi Administration operations in Rajasthan doting 1985 .. 86? during tlie last twd years. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Trans lat Jan 1 DBPARTMENT OF flEALTli (SaRI YOOENDRA MAKWANA) The StenlizatiCft Programme to m.ke Nutritious Foo4 Operation target for Rajasthan State has been Available to Pregnat Women fixed 8S 2,85,000 for the year 198S .. 86. 6965. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : Will the Minister of SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S [English] WELFARE be pleased state: Nbava She". Port Projeet (a) whether it is a fact that the diet taken by women during the pregnancy influences 6968. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: the mind and health of the child; and Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) if so. the Government's programme to make nutritious food avai1able to pregnant (a) the contribution of Government of women? Maharashtra for Nhava Sheva Port Project; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S (b) what would be the capacity of this WELFARE (SHRIMATI M. CHANDRA· new port with regard to handling of cargo SEKHAR) : (a) Yes, Sir. ships?

(b) SUpplementary nutrition is provided iHE MINISTER OF STATE. O'F tHE to pregnant women, belonging to disadvant­ MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TItA'NS· aged section of society, under the scheme of PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) The Integrated Child Development Services! Nhava Sheva Port Project is a central project. Special Nutrition programme. The Government of Maharashtra did not make any financial contribution towards this proj~t. However, the Government of Maharashtra made the Government lands in the project area available t~ the Port Allocation for widening and Develop .. Trust Authorities free of cost. ment of National Hi~tbw.v No. 12 (b) The new port win have a handlinl 6966. SHRI SHA NTI DHARIWAL : Will capacity of around 11 million tonnes of dry, the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS­ bulk and COl'ltainerised cargo a t the berth's. PORT be pleased to state the amount being provided for widening and development of Jaipur Bhopa)·Jaba)pur National Highway Irrigation Projects of Maharalhtra No. 12 during 1985·86 ? 6969. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS· PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): A sum of (a) whether it is a fact that on account Rs. 38S.31 lakhs have been provided for the of laterite ~oil in various parts of development of Na tional Highway No. 12 Maharashtra tbt cost of the major irrigation during t 985-86. projects proposed in the State of Mabarashtra is more ttlao tile permissible yardtd'ck of [Trans/at ion] cost .. benet" ratio;

Target! Achievement of Sterilization in (b) in order to encount,e irrigation in backward r_Ions or Maharashtra do tbe R~ban duriDa f98S-86 Government of Jodi. propose to rdo tIt~ 6t67. SHltl SHANTI DHARIWAL: cost-benefit ratio in deserving major irription WiN tfle Minister of HEALTH AND proj~"1s proposed to be undertaken in FAMJLY WELFAkB be pleased to state drought-prone areas; and 175 Written Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 176

(c) if so, which are these irrigation Chandra pur Project of Mabarasbtra projects under the active consideration of 6971. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will Government of India ? the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ (a) what progress the turn-key project NAND) : (a) The project reports from areas of Chandrapur in ~1aharashtra State has so with laterite soils in Maharashtra indicate far made; that their cost-benefit ratio is within the permissible limits. (b) what was the result of the global tender issued with regard to this project; (b) Projects benefitting drought prone (c) to whom has this power project work areas are already eligible for relaxation of been assigned: and the normal cost-benefit ratio criterion. (d) what is the estimated cost of the (c) Does not arise. project and when it is likely to be commis­ sioned ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Coastal Rail Line Diva-Panval-Uran DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN 6970. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: NEHRU) : (a) to (d). 1t is not proposed to Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased award a turn-key contract for the Chandra­ to state: pur thermal power project (Stage-III, 2 v 500 MW) in Mabarashtra. Global tender (a) when the Coastal Railway line from documents have been issued under the World Diva to Panval was sanctioned; Bank's international competitive bidding procedures, and the last date for submission (b) when the further link of railway of bids is 1.7.198S. The estimated cost of from Panval to Uran was sanctioned: " the project is Rs. 902 crores. The project is expected to be completed in 1991-92. (c) when both these routes were comple­ ted and what was the cost incurred by Primary Health Centres to be Construc­ Government for these two routes; ted during 1985-86.

(d) whether both these routes catering 6972. SHRI SATY AGOPAL MISRA: the needs of comrnutcrs~ and Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (e) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) how many Primary Health Centres THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are proposed to be constructed during the MINISTRY OF RA1LWAYS (SHRI year 1985·86; and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b). In 1961. (b) the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) Diva-Panvel (26.3 Kms.) was com­ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI pleted and opened to gl-)ods traffic on YOGENDRA MAKWANA): ~a) and (b). 31-10-196·4 and opened to pas~cngcr trafI1c According to th~ information provided by on 28-12-1964. Section between Panvcl and the StatesfUT Governments during their Uran (26.97 Kms.) was opened to goods annual plan discussions with the Planning traffic on 31-1-1966. The completion cost of Commission J 558 buildings for Primary these lines is Rs. 3.17 crorcs. Health Centres are proposed to be construc­ (d) Diva-Panvcl section caters to com­ ted during 1985-86. muters traffIC. Panvel- Uran section is open National Medical Library, New Deihl to soods traffic only. 6973. DR. G. VlJAYA RAMA RAO : (e) Panvel-Urun section is so far open Will the Minister of HEALTH AND to good s t raffle on 1y . FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: J77 Written AiftwerJ VAISAKHA 26, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answ'fa 178

(a) whether it is a fact that National India in consultation witb the Planning Medical Library, New Delhi is catering to Commission and the view taken was to lhe needs of Medical Colleges in the capital continue the Proaramme on SO:SO basis. The only and ir so, what are the types of faciH· same pattern bas been continued during first ties available in Delhi and its obligations to year of the 7th Plan. various coUeges outside New Delhi;

(b) whether there is any prop'osal to Introduction of a DIrect Rail Service start such Regional Medical Libraries in behteen Rayagada and Rourkela various parts of India; 6975. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIOAL : (c) whether any such proposal has been Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased received from any State and the measures to state: taken in this regard; and (a) whether it is a fact that there is no (d) if not, the reasons therefor? direct rail service between Rayagada and ROUTkeTa in Orissa; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (b) if so, whether Government propose YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) The to provide a direct rail service between these National Medical Library is catering to the two itnportanl places; and needs of the Medical Colleges in Delhi as all)o those of other Medical Colleges, (c) if so, the steps taken to implement Research Institutions and Practitioners in the the above proposal ? country. It provides bibliographical services, photo~copying services, Medline services, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE inter-library-loan and reading room facilities MINISTR Y OF RAILWAYS (SHRI which are available to all the persons engaged MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. in health or health related activities in any part of country. (b) and (c). Do not arise.

(b) to (d). The proposal to start regional Expansion of Railway Wagol Repalrl. Medical Libraries in some part of the country Unit, Ralpul' M.P. is receiving the attention of the Government. 6976. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Supply of Anti -T. B. Drugs state:

6974. DR. G. VlJAYA RAMA RAO : (a) whether Government have a proposal W;U the Minister of HEALTH AND for expa'nsion of Railway Wagon Repairinl FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: unit, Raipur in Madhya Pradesh;

(a) whether Government arc actively (b) if so, when the above proposal is considering the proposal of the Tuberculosis likt:Jy to be taken up; and Association of India to make supply of anti­ (c) the number of skilled and non-skilled T. B. drugs a 100 pet cent centrally sponso­ workers who are presently engaged in this red scheme; and Railway Wasoo Repairing Unit? (b) if so, the details thereof .? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SftRI THE MfNISTER OF STATE IN THE MADHA VRAO SCINDfA) : (a) There is a DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI proposal for increasing the capacity of YOGENDRA MAK WANA) : (a) and (b). Raipur Workshop for periodical overhaul of The proposal to cfassify tbe scheme of supply Broad Gauge Wagons. of material and equipment and anti-TB drugs k> States Wldor the National Tubefcu­ (b) The proposal would be t&keD up for losis Control PtOiramme as a 100 per cent consideration dependiDl upon tbe material... CentraJJy Sponsored Scheme during 6th PJan sation of workload and also availability of has. beeb' ¢oftsidered b~ tbd Government of funds. 179 Written Answers MAY 16, 1985 Written Answ~rs 180

(c) Skilled Workers - 1047 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Non-ski1led Workers - 494 (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) The grants paid by the UGC to Universities in Madhya Railway Division at Sambalpur Pradesh during 1984-85 are as follows: (Orissa) Name 0/ University Grants paid 6977. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN:' Will (Rs. in /akhs) the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Awadesh Pratap Singh 20.86 state : Bhopal 8.60 (a) the amount allocated in 1985-86 fot' Ind ira Kala Sangeet 1.26 the establishment of Railway Djvision at Sambalpur in Orissa; Devi Ahilya Vishwavidyalaya, Indore 10.25 (b) when the said project was sanctioned; and Rani Durgavati Vishwavidyala, JabaJpur 4.44 (c) the target date fixed for the comple­ Jiwaji 6.76 tion of construction of the division office buildings etc. Ravi Shankar 10.53 Dr. H. S. Gaur, Saugar 29.59 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS \SHRI Vikram 25.45 MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (c). (b) and (c). Development grants to Formation of Divisional Headquarters at universities arc not allocated by UGC on an Samhalrur in Orissa has been accepted, in annual basis. At the beginning of each Plan principle, in 19H4. However, before any period, the UGC indicates a tentative alloca­ such major activity can make headway. tion for each university determined on the certain preliminary ~teps have to be taken. basis of several factors jike the stage of A~ sllch, 27R acres of land near the Sambal­ development of each university, the nature pur Station has been idcntil1ed. The Divisio­ and levels of programmes offered by it, the nal Office complex and esslo!ntial statT quarters student and faculty strength, and the pro­ will eventually be located in this area. f'ur­ gress made by it in the previous plans. In thermore, plan for the new building for the Sixth Plan, while determining this tentative station-cum office complex has been finalised allocation the need for removal of regional and the contract awarded for an outlay of imbalances was also kept in view. Each Rc;. 35 Jakhs. A good beginning will thus be university is then asked to prepare pro­ made with the construction of the station­ grammes to be implemented within the ceil­ cum-ofTice complex.. Further progress of work ing of allocation so indicated. These propo­ will depend on the availability of funds and sals are then assessed through Visiting Com­ as such, no target date can be indicated. mittees on whose recommendations grants are approved for each university. Depending l)GC Grants to Unhersities upon the progress of implementation of various schemes, funds are placed at the 6978. KUMARl PUSHVA nEVI: Will disposal of universities from time to time. the ~1inbter of EDUCATION be pleased to state: The total outlay for higher education in the Seventh Plan has not yet been finalised. (u) the total amount provided by Uni­ The tentative allocation for each university versity Grants Commission to differen t Uni­ for general d~velopment in the Seventh Plan versities in Madhya Pradesh in ]984; would be finalised by the Commission only (b) whether Government propose to after the total outlay 1ikely to be available is enhance the allocation to the universities set known. up in backward States; and [Trans/at ions] (c) if so, the total amount of grants proposed to be atJocated in 1985-86 to the Conversion of lines between Sonepur different universities set up in Madhya and Haraunl into Broad Gauge Pradesh 7 6979. SHRI RAM BAHADl}R SINGH: 181 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 182

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased (a) whether he is aware of the increase to state: in the number of beggars in trains and at platforms; (a) whether the distance between Sonepur and Barauni via Shahpur Pa toree on North (b) jf so, the names of the divisions and Lastern Railway is only 80 kilometre; and the routes on which large number of beggars are found; and (b) if so, whether there is any proposal to convert this 80 kilometre line into borad (c) what detcrrant action is being taken gauge so as to reduce the time in covering by Government to root out this menace once the distance between Sonepur and Barauni ? and for all '! THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). The distance between Sonepur and Barauni, The Railway Administration is aware of the via Shahpur-Patoree, is about 91 kms. nuisance caused by beggars in trains and at platforms. However, as no statistics is main­ (b) There is no proposal to convert this tained regarding the number of beggars ()n section into BG at present. trains and on platforms it cannot be said that their number has increased of late.

[English] (c) Railways organise regular checks and raids with the assistance of R.P.F .. R.P.S,F., Relic f to Salt Producers G.R.P. and CiviJ Police to remove the beggars from trains and stations. 6980. SHRI DIGVIJA Y SINGH: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to [Translation] state: Health Guide Workers Sta'e-wise (a) whether it is a fact that due to pre­ sen t shortage of wagons the salt Producers 6982. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD of Kharaghoda, Patdi and Dharngadhra in RAWAT: Will the Minister of HEALTH Gujarat have suffered incalculably; and AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state the totHI number of health guide wor­ (b) if so. the steps taken to give relief of kers deployed, State-wise, to Jook after the these Salt Producers? health of villagers under multi-purpose workers scheme ? THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCJNDIA): (a) and (b). YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : VIllage Health While transport of Salt by rail from Khara­ Guide Scheme is a separate Scheme and not ghoda, Patdi and Dharangadhra areas inclu­ a part of the MuIri-purpose Workers Scheme. ding Kuda was about 12 per cent more in The number of Health Guides trained State­ 1984-85 over 1983 -84, the movement of salt wise is given in the statement attached. by trade, in ships for Eastern India has declined, resulting in increased demand for Tail transport in Gujarat. Statement Tolal number 0/ J/eallh Guide Ira ined as Efforts are being made to further increase pel' information received up to 31-3-85 (figures the availability of wagons for Salt loading in provisional) this area to the extent feasible. State/UT Increase in the Dumber of Beggars on Trains and at Platforms 1. Andhra Pradesh 3J534 . 2. Assam 17634 6981. SHRI MULLAPAPLY RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of 3. Bihar 10000 RAILWAYS, be pleased to state: 4. Gujarat 22852 MAl{ 16. tQSS

, S. He ryan a 10280 99 Community Health Centres (Rura 1 Hospitals) were likely to be established (j. Himachal Pradesh 4418 during the year 1984-85. 7. J & K Not implementing Health Guide Scheme Rural Students Health Care Scheme i. Kamataka 13716 9. Kerala Not implementing Health 6984. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD Guide Scheme RAWAT: Will the Minister of HEALTH be 35619 AND FAMILY WELFARE pleased to 10. M6WJ~a Pradesh state : 1 J. Maharashtra 43774 (a) whether Government have any rural 12. Manipur 1690 students health care scheme; and 13. Meahalaya 2029 (b) if so, the details thereof? 14. NaaaJand 340 IS. Orissa 22495 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 16. Punjab 10906 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI 13878 YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) The 17. Rajasthan Government of India has no Rural Student 18. Sikkim 345 Health Care Scheme as such. However, School 19. Tamil Nadu Not im,plemeniiDS Health Health Programme is being imp]emented in Guide Scheme 100 primary health centres on experimental basis. 20. Tripura 1860 21. Uttar Pradesh 82855 (b) Under this Scheme, the fo1lowing activities would be covered: 22. West Bengal 41199 23. A&N Islands 346 (i) Training of teachers; 24. Arunachal Pd. Not implementing Health (ii) Health Education; G ujde Scheme (iii) Health check ~up of primary school 25. ,Chaudlgarh 25 children; 26. D&N Havcli 74 27. Delhi 160 (iv) Treatment of sick children; and 28. Goa, Daman &, Di u 884 (v) Immunization. 29. Lakshadweep 42 The f oous of the scheme would be the 30. Mizoram 697 training of the teachers to identify 'Sick 31- Pondicherry 278 children, to keep health records of the school children, provjde treatment for minor ailments AU India Total 169930 and to organise healtb educa,tion activitie15 in the schools. Teachers would also assist in 'Con"ersion for Pr imary Health arranging health check up and immunizatiOJ1 Centres Into Rural Hospitals of school children by the primary health centre staff. 6983. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Will the Minister of HEALTH [English} AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state the number of Primary Health Centres Restoration of BangaJore Bogies to in the country converted into rural hospitals G. T. Express during 1984 "/ 6985. DR. V. VENKATESH : Will THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to DBPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI state: YOGBNDRA MAKWANA): According to tbe informa t ion provided by the StatejUT (a) whether it is a fact that tbe practice Governments during their lliall discussions, of attaching five Banplore bogie. to 01aQd • 18S ",-ritle,. .."'''S V AISAKHA 26, 1907 tSAKA) Wrltt~,. Alllwers 186

TfUI'Ik E"press bas been :stopped; (a) whether Government propose to run the H. Nizamuddin-Banga)ore ExprelS bi­ (b) if so, whether Government are aware weekly; of the difficulties faced by people of Kamataka on account of this decision; (b) jf so, the details tht.Ieof; and

(c) whether Government have received (,C) if not. the reasons therefor '! representation from Karnataka Government to continue the practice of attaching THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Baoaa1orc bogies to G. T. Express; and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. (d) if so, the reaction of the Govern" (b) Does not arise. ment thereto? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) It is not feasible due to lack of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI resources Iike coaches and locomotives. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (d). It is a fact that the through coaches funning State CapHals not Connected with between Bangalore and Delhi by 15/16 G. T. New Delhi by dally trains Express had been temporarily suspended 6988. DR. V. VENKATESH : Will the from September'84. Ministrr of RAILWAYS be pleased to state With effect from 1.5.85 two coaches have the State Capitals for which there are no been restored 10 fun between Bangalore and daily trains from New Delhi? New Delhi by Grand Trunk Express. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHill Changing the Timings and Extension MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : Trivandrum of NizaBluddio .. MangaJurc Jayanti and Bangalore the State Capitals of Kerala Janta Express upto New Delhi and Karnataka respectively are not served 6986. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the with daily service from New Delhi, while the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to sta.te : Sta te Capitals of Meghalaya, Manipur, Nagaland, Tripura and Sikkim do not have (a) whether there is any proposal to rail links upto their Capitals towns. change the timings of Jayanti Janta Express which runs from Nizamuddin to Mangalore; Non-Testing of Medicines Procured (b) if so, the details thereof; from Open Market by J ipmer

(c) whether Government have reeeived 6989. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM : Will any representation from the Karnataka the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Goyorament to eJCtond Jayanti Janta Express WELFARE be pleased to state: upto New Ddhi Railway Station; and (a) whether Governmcut have issued (d) if so, the steps taken in this regard '! instructions to Government MedicaJ Store Depots to accept any item in the Depot only THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE after test; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRl (b) whether the JawabarJaJ Institute of MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : .(8) No, Sir. Postsraduate Medical Education and (b) Does flot arise. Research while effecting local purchase other than from Government Medical Store Depot (1;) No. Sir. accept the item without $Ubjcclioa to prior (d) Does not arise. tests in their own or outside Laboratorics! and Proposal to Run H. Nizamuddin BanpJore E.preu bI-Weekly (c) if so, throuah what means tbe quality of drugs procured locaUy other tban from 6987. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the Government Medical Store Depot is Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : ensured 1 187 Written Answer, MAY 16, 1985 Written Anrw~" 188

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE baseline data for heavy metals in water. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI food and air. YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) Main metals of concern are cadmium, lead mercury and arsenic. Cadmium causes (b) It has been reported by the Director, damage to kidney and bones whereas lead Jawaharlal Institute of Post· graduate Medical and mercury are principally neurotoxic. Education and Research, that the drugs not Arsenic may cause dermatitis. on V. M. S, list of Medical Stores Depot are purchased from firms licensed by Drugs (c) WHO has set limits of tolerance for a Controller, Public S,~dor enterprises and few heavy metals. The limits of heavy metals approved firms on Governmen t rate contract in various foods have already been prescribed on the recommendation of the Expert Drug under the provisions of Prevention of Food Committee of the I nstitute and as such no Adulteration Rules, 1955. preliminary testing is uone in the Institute or outside. As regards water, Government has also prescribed its own guidelines for acceptability (c) In case the clinical ellkacy of any of drinking water laying down the tolerance drug is in doubt the matter is reported to limits of heavy metals. the concerned authorities for tak ing suitable action. Proposal for Uniformity in Tariffs in Major Ports Health Risks from Metals in Food­ stuffs and Water 6991. SHRIMATI INDUMATI BHAT~ T ACHAR YY A : Will the Minister of 6990. DR.G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: SHIPPJNG AND TRANSPORT be pleased Will the Minister of HEALTH AND to state ~ FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) the criteria for fixing tariffs for the different major ports; (a) whether Government are aware of the general heal th risks arising from meta Is (b) the port charges and wharfage rates in foodstuffs and water which are being charged at different major ports; spread through the air also and are harmful for plants. animals as well as human beings (c) the reasons for differences in tariffs and if so, results of any studies conducted in the major ports; so far; (d) whether ports having lower tariff rates (b) what are the main metals involved are attracting more traffic than the other in the above and the na ture of health risks; ports where tariff rates are higher; and and (e) jf so, whether Government have any (c) whether World Health Organisation proposal to make the tariffs uniform in aU have set any limits and whether these are major ports '? being followed in the country? THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI Z.R. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI ANSARI) : (a) The traffic passing through YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) Govern­ a port consists of many commodities. The ment is aware of the possibilities of the ability to bear the port charges may vary general health risk from metals as a result considerably with individual commodities. of increasing industrialisation. A worldwide Some commodities may not stand the full collaborative WHOjUNDP Project carried costs) which include depreciation, overheads out with great care at the beginning of this and minimum return on capital employed. decade did not reveal excessive intakes of Commodities like coal and salt will move lead and cadmium in the average population only when the cbarges are substantiaIJy low. in 3 urban localities in India. A multicentric In such cases the ports are required to re­ study supported by Department of Environ­ cover only the bare cost of moving such ment is currently underway to gel the traffic which are direct costs and CODStitu~ J 89 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 190

the floor charges in the taritT system. Com­ (a) whether COHS Wing in SafdarjuDI modities of higher value and comparatively Hospital is not a composite one and patients smaller bulk can stand higher rates which for skin, neurology, orthopaedic etc. have may be fixed on the principle of ports cbarg­ to line up with the general public in the ing 'what the traffic can bear'. In view of Safdarjung Hospital; the multiplicity of commodities and the services required to be rendered by the major (b) whether for obtaining X-Rays, get­ ports, the individual rates are differentiated ting E.C.G. done etc., COHS beneficiaries according to the classifications and variations have no separate arrangements; in the costs of handling of the cargo and the vessels. Application of this principle (c) if so, whether there is any proposal neces"itates cross subsidisation of handling of to make the wing composite and also to open various . commodities and also various a polyclinic in R.K. Puram; and services. (d) by when CGHS dispensary buUdini (b) The rates charged at the major ports for Sector) V, R.K. Puram is like)y to be are published in books called Scales of constructed ? Rates. An these books are available on payment of price. The results Hkely to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI achieved by reproducing these large sized YOGENDRA MAKW ANA) : (a) and (b). books of all the ten major ports will not be Yes, Sir. commensurate with the labour and cost involved. (c) At present no proposal for expansion of the CG HS Wing of Safdarjung Hospital (c) As in (a) above. or to open a polyclinic in R.K. Puram is (d) The traffic handled at ports is depen­ under consideration. dent on the production in and requirements (d) Construction of CGHS dispensary at of the hinterlands served by the ports, as R.K. Puram Sector IV will be considered also on the facilities available at the ports, after procurement of the plot of land ear­ including the infra'itructure such as roads, marked for the purpose. railway Jinks, transport. etc. Tariff structures alone arc not a guiding factor in the shippers' Proposal to Constru('( Nursillg Home option for a particular port. in ~afdarjung Hospital

(e) Differential rates are implicit in the 6993. SHRI HAF]Z MOHAMMAD value. volume and direction of trade. Public STDDIQ : Will the Minister of HEALTH interest may also necessitate differential tnriff AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to for certain kinds of commodities and for state: certain perjods. The idea of having a uniform rating system is attractive though specious. (a) whether there it; any proposal to Since t~ach port has in respect of tramc an construct a Nursing Home in Safdarjung individuality of its own and relic" on certain Hospital for the convenience of the Govern­ commodities from which the bulk (,r its ment employees residing jn that part of the r\!venuc is derived, such as tea, gunnies at Capital; Calcutta. iron ore at Madras. Visakhapatnam and Mormugao, there will be practical difficul­ (b) if ~o, the details thereof; and ties in working out a uniform rate for all (c) if not, the reasons therefor? ports. These considerations militate against the princip1e of uniform rates even for major THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE commodities at the various ports. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAK\VANA) : (a) and (b). CGHS Wing in Sa fdarjung Hospital There is no proposal for establishing a and Polyclinic in R. K. Puram Nursing Home in the Safdarjang Hospital during the Seventh Five Year Plan. 6992. SHRI HAFIZ MOHAMMAD SIDD1Q: Will the Minister of HEALTH (c) Due to financial constraints it is not AND FAMI.LY WELFARE be pleased to possible to consider such a proposal at state: present. 191 MAY 16. 198-5 192

kapI_eatation of ReconuReQda.. ioos Gcwernmeat on recommendations contained eI tbe Committee on "StandardJ­ therefor ? sect Diets fer HOIpit811" THB MINISTER OF EDUCATION 6994. SHRI HAFJZ MOHAMMAD (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) The University SIDDIQ ; Will the Minister of HEALTH Grants Commission initiated a prosramme of AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to Examination Reforms in the IV Plan. A state: Standing, Committee was also constituted to advise the Commission on implementation of (a) whether the recommendations of the the Examination Reform programmes. This Committee on "Standardised diets for hos­ Standing Committee is reconstituted from pitals" bas since been implemented to have time to time. a uniform pattern of diets served toindoor patients and whether this scheme applicable (b) The present composition of the Stand­ to Delhi Hospitals or for all Government ing Committee on implementation Of Exa­ Hospital all over the country; mination Reforms is as CoUows :

(b) whether some of the Government 1. Professor Ramaranjan Mukherji Hospitals in Delhi; Bile Safdarjung HospitaJ, Vice-Chancellor pur.cbase the items of general kitchen from Rabindra Bharati Kendriya Bhandar; and Calcutta. (c) if so. is there any proposal to direct 2. Professor R.C. Mehrotra tlte remaining Hospitals also to follow suit Dep:utment of Chemistry ahd if not the reasons therefor? Rajasthan University Jaipur. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI 3. Professor R.G. Takwala YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) The Department of Physics rerommendations of the Committee on Stan­ Poona University dardised diets foJ' hospitals Ijave been recom­ Poona. mended for implementa tion to the State Governments. The re(.;ommendations arc 4. Professor V.S. Mishra applicable to all the Government Hospitals Department of Education all over the country including Delhi. Gorakhpur University Gorakhpur. (b) and (c). All the Government Hospitals S. Professor H.S, Srivastava in Delhi are already purchasing requirements Department of Measuremen l 01 diet items from Kendriya Bhandar/Super and Evaluation, NCERT Bazar. New Delhil.

[TrQIIS/Ulion] 6. Professor H.P. Dikshit Department of Mathematics Jab~lpur University CGmmjttee on Examination Reforms JabaJpur.

6995. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR 7. Dr. N.K. Upasani TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of EDUCA­ Hony. Director TION be pleased to state: Examination Reform Unit S.N.D.T. Women's University {a) whether it is a fact that University Bombay. Grants Commission has appointed an Imple­ mentation Committee on reformation of exa­ 8. Dr. D. Acharya mination system; Industrial Man~ment Centre Indian Institute of Ttcbnotogy (b) if so, the composition and tet ms of Kharagpur. reference thereof; and (c) The Committee m.ts from time to (c:) whether the Committee bave submit­ time and advises the CommiSSion Olf spe¢ified ted its report and if so the action tak. by measures to be taken. At its last meetn., 191 Wrltt~n A"swers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 194

held in October 1982, the Committee had and Technology, Srinagar, recommended the details of certain minifnum J & K. 1982 programme of reforms to be implemented by the universities. The programme of minimum 4. Andhra Pradesh Open reforms was communicated to all universities University, Hyderabad, in January, 1983. The programmes suggested Andhra Pradesh. 1982 include division of the syllabus into units, setting questions from each such unit with 5. Sri Padmavati MahiJa choice limited to questions from each unit, Visvavidyalayam, freedom for examiners to repeat questions Tirupati, Andhra Pradesh. 1983 from the previous examinations, holding of examinations only after fulfilling the require. 6. Amravati University, ment of a minimum number of lectures, Amravati, Maharashtra 1983 laboratory session etc. and making arrange­ 7. Guru Ghasi Das Univer- ments for proper conduct of examinations sity, Bilaspur, Madhya including supervision, invigilation, etc. Pradesh. 1983

[English) 8. Gandhiji University, Kottayam, Kcrala. 1983 Universities Declared as Trouble Mother Teresa Univer- Torn 9. sity, Kodaikanal, Tamil 6996. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Nadu. 1984 Will the Minister of EDUCATION be plea­ 10 Arunachal University, sed to state : Itanagar, Arunachal Pradesh. 1984 (a) the number of Universities set during the last three year giving year-wise position and giving ·names; (b) The State Government do not re­ quire the prior approval of the UGC for (b) the details of Universities that have establishing new Universities. However, such come up without University Grantc; Commi­ Universities require to be declared fit by ssion's concurrence during the above period; the UGC to receive assistance from the Commission. Anlong the Universities men­ (c) Universities which have been dec­ tioned above 0nly the Bharathiar and Bhara· lared as trouble torn during the above period; thidasan Universities in Tamil Nadu have and so far been declared fit to receive assistance by the Commission. (d) steps taken by University Grants Commission to streamline their working and (c) : Universities are not so declared by action taken against the defaulters? the uac.

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATJON (d) : Does not arise. (SHRt K. C. PANT): (a) The fonowing Universities have been set up during the last 3 years. Construction Works on National Highway No. 12 Name of University Year 0/ Estab- lishment 6997. SHRI PRA T AP BHANU SHARMA: Will the Minister of SHIPPING 1. Bharathiar University, AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu. 1982 (a) whether it is a fact that tbe cons­ 2. Bharathidasan Univer­ truction work on National Highway No. 12 sity, Tiruchirapal1i. Tamil between Bhopal and Jaipur is very slow; Nadu. 1982 (b) jf so, t~ details of road under cons­ 3. Sher-e .. Kashmir University truction and bridlcs which are yet to be of Aaricultural Science completed; 195 Written Answer' MAY 16, 1985 JY,itten Anfwe" 1%

(c) what was the tota 1 allocation for Command Area was reserved in the Rajasthan National Highway No. 12 during Sixth Canal Project for allotment to Poog Dam Plan; and Oustecs. The allotment of land to Pong Dam Oust~es in Rajasthan is being made (d) the details of works done between under Rajasthan Colo,nisation (Allotment of Jaipur·Bhopal and Jabalpur during the Governnlcnt Land to Pong Dam Ou&tees in Sixth Plan period 1 the Rajasthan Canal Colony) Rules 1972.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) : Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF SHIPPJNG AND TRANS­ PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSAR1): (a) to (d). (c) and (d). A few cases where land al1ot. No, Sir. The development and maintenance ted to Oustees have been forcibly occupied of National Highways is a continuous pro­ by unsocial elements have been reported. cess and improvement works are sanctioned Rajasthan authorities have been reque-sted keeping in view the existing condition of the to instruct the local Civil Administration, National Highway, traffic intensity and avail­ to redress the grievances of oustees promptly. ability of resources. 73 works costing Rs. Government of Rajasthan have informed that 7.28 crores were completed on National prompt action has been taken. Highway No. 12 and an allotment of Rs. 10.58 crores was made during Sixth Plan. 58 works costing Rs. 7. 6~ crores on Natio- Damodar Valley Corporation's Power Highway No. 12 in nal are various stage5 SlIpply to West Bengal of progress. 6999. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: 'ViII the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Allotment of Land in Rajasthan Canal POWER be pleased to state : Area (a) whether any request has been recei­ 6998. SARI H. G. RAMULU : Will ved from the Chief Minister, West Bengal, the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER that hoth the State Electricity Board as well be pleased to state : as Calcutta Electric Supply Corporation can absorb additional power from Damodar (a) whether the allotment of land in the Valley Corporation whenever there is a short­ Rajasthan Canal Project area had been fall; made by an agreement by the two State Governments of Himachal Pradesh and (b) whether Damodar VaHey Corpora­ Rajasthan under the supervision of Central tion's power supply to West Bt:ngal can be Governn1ent; augmented in view of the ,Chief Minister's assurance; and (b) jf so, whether the allotment is/was made in the reserved area for the Pong Dam (c) the details of the latest position in Oustees: this regard 1

(c) whether it i~ a fact that the Oustees THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are being harassed hy the un-social and un­ DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN wanted elements in tne area; and NEHRU) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(d) the steps contemplated by Govern­ (b) and (c). In the context of heavy ment in this regard? load shedding in Calcutta city, Damodar Valley Corporation was instructed to give THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE certain additional power to Calcutta Elec­ DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN tric Supply Corporation; however, it bas NEHRU) : (a) Pursuent to the decision been observed that full allocation is not taken by a Committee of Chief Ministers being utilised by C.E.S.C. Less than SO per (~ompri!'>ing of Chief 1\1 ini-.tcrs of Punjab, cent of power all{'cation is beina drawn Hnryana, Rajasthan and Himachal Pradesh during off· peak hours, and even during peak and the Union Minister of Irrigation and hours full allocation was not utilized at POWl.:f) in September, 1970, 2.25 Jac acres of times. 197 Wrillen Answers VAlSAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Wrltl~" AlUwerl 198

Taking into account, generation from [English) Damodar Vaney Corporation, the Corpora­ t' on is not in a position to supply additional Commercial Energy Consumption ;ower to West Bengal State Electricity Board. 7001. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND [Translation] "POWER be pleased to state :

Construction of Parallel Canal to (a) Commercia1 energy consumption in the Ganga Canal terms of coal replacement. of oil products

and electricity in 1982-83, 1983-84t 1984-85; 7000. SHRI DHARAMVIR SINGH: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (b) projected requirements for the next POWER be pleased to state : five years;

(a) whether there is any scheme of the (c) estimates drawn up, if any, of non­ Centre/Uttar Pradesh Government to cons­ commercial fuels like dung. firewood, char­ truct a parallel canal alongwith the oldest coal and vegetable waste in the total energy canal of the country, the Ganga Canal with consumed in the country; and World Bank assistance; (d) whether there is a shortage of these (b) jf so, the scheduled period of the Don-commercia) fuels in many parts of the construction of this new Ganga canal and country'! the amount of expenditure likely to be incurred thereon; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN (c) whether keeping in view the price. NEHRU) : (a) to (d) The information is rise, it would not be necessary to increase being collected and will be laid on the table many times the amount earmarked for the of the House. construction of this canal; and

(d) if so, whether Government propose Setting up of Head Quarter of the to reduce the period of construction of this Bhakra Deas Management Board parallel Ganga canal so as to complete at Chandlgarh the work with the amount earmarked therefor? 7002. SHRI JNDRAJIT GUPTA: WHI the Minister of IRRIGATION AND, POWER be plea sed to sta te : THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ (a) whether the Chairman of the Bhakra NAND) : (a) and (b) Yes, Sir. The first BedS Management Board has been allowed phase of the Upper Ganga Canal Moderni­ to set up his Headquarters at Chandigarh, sation Project is scheduled to be completed which is at a distance of J08 Kms., 210 in 2008 in four time slices. from 1984 to Kms. and 200 Kms. from the important 2008 with the total cost of Rs. 1313 crores. project sites of NangaJ, Talwara and Sun­ The World Bank is currently providing dernagar respectively; assistance of US $ 125 million for the first time slice of six year's duration upto Septem­ (b) whether, as a result, huae sums of ber, )990 and an amount of Rs. 249.77 money will be required for purchase of land, crores is expected to be spent on the project construction of offices aod residential quar­ during this period. ters etc. at Chandigarh, while accommoda­ tion already available at the project sites (c) The cost of the first time slice in­ is falling vacant; and cludes the provision of phYtical contingen­ cies and also an clemcl'\t or price escalation. (c) whether basing hiSh offtcers of the BOard and top engineers and technica~ ex .. (d) The State Government has not perts at Cbandil8th instead of at or near .m&

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE quinoHne derivatives, (4) higher dose DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN Lynestrenol products, (5} Piperazine and ,,' NEHRU) : (a) to (c). A decision was taken (6) Phenylbutazone!Oxyphenbutazone have by 'the Bhakra Management Board (now been permitted for marketing in the country Bhakra Beas Management Board) in 19()7 in consultation with the Medical Experts sub­ to locate its Headquarters at Chandigarh in ject to a cautionary statement and contra­ view of its being close to the various BOMB indications being given on the label/packed project sites, New Delh'i, capitals of partner insert. States and having better comnlunication facilities. Whereas Corporate Office of the In so far as this Ministry is aware the Board is located at Chandigarh, senior drug Lon10til mentioned in the News item engineers upto and including Chief Engi­ has not been . banned in any country. This neer~s love} are based at the various project d rug is however not recommended to be stations, for effecti'Je functioning. As a used in children below age of 6 years, result of locating the Corporate OUke at Chandigarh, no accommodation is surplus at Nangal. However, some residential aeconl­ UGC Grants to Garhbeta Colleges, modation at Talwara and Sundernagar Midnapore rendered surplus to the BBMB requirements, which are neither sufficient nor suitable 7004. SHRI AJJT KUMAR SAHA : for the Corporate Office, have been given SHRI R. P. DAS : on rental basis to Punjab State Electricity Will the Minister of EDUCATION be Board and Himachal Pradesh Government pJeased to state: respectively On their persistent demand for their officers/offices at the two stations. (a) whether University Grants Commi- ,ssion have approved a financial grant of Rs. 1,60,000/ - for development assistance to Sale of Banned Dru~s Garhbcta College, Midnapore Distt. (West 7003. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : Bengal; SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: (b) ,whether the said coJIege adminis· Will the Minister of HEALTH AND tration has sent all the relevant documents, FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: plan etc. asked for by tbe University Grants Commission; and (a) whethrr attention of Government has been drawn to a news item captioned (c) jf so, whether the University Grants "Banned Drugs freely available" appeared Commission are expediting the release of in the Statesman· of 14 April, 1985; grants '?

(b) if so, the details of such drugs which THE MINJSTER OF EDUCATION are now available for sale in the country; (SHRI K. C. PANT); (a) The University and Grants Commission had approved a pro­ posal for construction of classrooms at a (c) the action Government propose to cost of Rs. 1,60,000 with the Commission's take in this resard ? share limited to Rs. 80,000,

THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). Instead of sending the Plans DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI and estimates for construction of classrooms, MAKWANA) : (a) Yes, YOOENDRA Sir. t he college sent estimates for extension of Professor's common room, Principal's cham­ (b) and (c) . Out of ~5 drugs, reported ber, etc. The Commi~sion therefore~ advised by the W.H.O. to have been withdrawn in the college to send plans and estimates for some countries, 12 druis were not approved the approved construction programme. Tbefte for marketioa in .India at all. 8 drugs have are still awaited. The question of payment been 'withdrawn from the market and the of grant will be considered when plans and remainina 6 drugs namely (l) Nitrofuran estimates fOf the construction of ClaS$fOOma compounds, (2) Phenformin, (3) Hydroxy- are received and approved. 201 VAISAKtlA 26, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answer,

Uttar Pradesh Government's Offer (a) the detaiJs of the facilities beina pro­ to Centre for Taking Over MultI­ vided to handicapped children by the Govern­ purpose Projects ment in Central Schools; 7005. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (b) whether it is a fact that handicapped pOWER be pleased to state: children are not aJIowed any concessions in school buses etc.; and (a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government have offered that Central Government should (c) jf so. the resons therefor '! take over some of the multipurpose hydro­ electric projects which involve huge amount; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) There is no pro­ (b) if so, the projects offered; and vision for any special facilities for handi­ (c) the reaction of the Government capped children in Kendriya Vidyalayas (Central Schools). thereto?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). Kelldriya Vidyalaya DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN Sangathan has no prOvision for transport NEHRU) : (a) Yes, Sir. facilities for children. Private transport arrangements are made in some Kendriya (b) and (c) . The Government of Uttar Vidyalayas on 'no profit no loss' basis and Pradesh have offered Kishau Multi-purpose the concerned children have to share the project (600 MW) in Yamuna Valley, Tehri expenses. Dam Project (1000 MW) in Ganga Valley and four hydro-electric schemes in Sarda' Valley, namely, Dhauliganga, Gauriganga, [English] • Eastern Ramganga and Tanakpur for imple­ mentation in the Central Sector/Joint Sec­ Study Regarding Enrolment of Poor tor. A decision has already been taken Students at Elt>mentary Stage regarding the projects in the Sarda Valley. 7007. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD The Tanakpur hydro-electric project (120 SETHI; Will the Minister of EDUCATION MW) is under construction, through be pleased to state ; National Hydro-electric Power Corporation. Investigations have yet .to be completed (a) whether there is any proposal under regarding tbe other three projects. the cousideration of Government to conduct a study in re ~ard to poor students' enrol­ The Kishau Multi-purpose project invol­ ment at the elementary stage; and ves inter-State issues relating to sharing of Yamuna waters and also submergence in (b) if so, the details thereof? Himachal Pradesh. The scheme could be considered for implementation in the Central THE MINiSTER Of EDUCATION Sector after the inter-State issues are resol­ (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). The ved and techno-economic feasibility of the National Council of Educational Research scheme is established. The modalities regar­ and Training and other organisations have ding execution of Tehri Darn Project as a conducted a number of studies over the years joint venture between Government of India in regard to problens causing poor enrol .. and Government of Uttar Pradesh ate under ment at elementary stage. However. in view of examination. the importance of the matter, the National Council of Educational Research and Training [ Translation) (NCERT), the National Institute of Educa .. tional Planning and Administration (NlEPA), CoaeesslODs to Handleappe4i Chi~ren the State Governments and Union Territory In Ceat raj Seboolt Administrations have been recently requested to undertake area"specific: studies wherever 7006. SHRJ R. M. BHOYE: Will the needed, for indentifyina the causes of non .. Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to enrolment and for taking suitable measures stato. It to auaiD UDivcna1 tDrOlmoot. Wr;IIM AluW,r6 MAY 16. 1985 204

Uldvetslties in Andhra Pradesh Cleared Himachal Pradesb 1 "y lJ. G. C. Jammu & Kashmir 2 7008. SHRI N. V . RATNAM : Will the Karnataka 5 Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to Kerala 4 state : Madhya Pradesh 10 (a) number of Universities in Andhra Maharashtra 11 Pradesh cleared by University Grants Manipur 1 Commission and when; Meghalaya 1 (b) number of Universities not declared Orissa 4 fit by University G rants Commission in the Punjab 4 State of Andhra Pradesh and the reasons for not cJeariDg them; and the Rajasthan 5 Tamil Nadu 9 \c) number of Universities in each State getting arant-in-aid ? Uttar Pradesh 22 West Benpi 8 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Delhi 5 (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). The total number of universities in Andhra Pradesh including Central Universities and two insti­ [Trans/at ion] tutions deemed to be universities, is 13. Of these, 2 universities established in 1982 and UGC Grants to Lalit Narayan 1983 respectively are still to be declared fit Mishra Mithila University ... for assistance from central sources. The Dal'bhanga University Grants Commission has suggested c~rtain amendments to the Acts of the 7009. SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD Andhra Pradesh Open university, and the YADAV : Will the Minister of EDUCATION Sri Padmavathi Mahila Vishwavidya)ayam be pleased to state: before declaring them fit for' assistance. The State Government is yet to communi¢ate (a) whether it is a fact that Lalit their views on these suggestions. Narayan Mishra Mithila University, Darbhanga in Bihar is receiving grants from (c)' The total number of universities in University Grants Commission; each State; including Central Universities and institutions deemed to be universities, receiv­ (b) if so, the details thereof; and ing grants from Central SOUNes is given ia tbe attached statement. (c) if not, the rearsons thereof?

Statement THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRl K. C. PANT) : (a) The L. N. StaUmtnt showing Ihe Stale-wise Mithila Universfty, Darbhanga has been numbtr 01 Universitie5 which are declared fit to receive assistance from the rectlving grants- in-aid Iron. UOC subject to the condition that gragts the UGe for institutional d.velopment would be pro­ vided only after the Act .and Statutes of the -----,.---~- University are amended as suaested by the Name of State Number of universities! UGC. Meanwhile,' the university is beiDa Institutions receiving sanctioned grants for other purposes, namely grants-in.. 'aid appointment of Visiting Professors, award of fellowships, publications, unassiabed AtadIlra Pradeth 11 grants, etc. A!Jsam 3 Bibar 10 (b) and (.). Durifft -the ~riod 1981-82 to 1984-85, the Commission had approved Gu}... 9 a total lrant of Rs_ 2.6S'1akhs. H'owever, the Haryaoa 3 . Uoive~ btl. beea paid ooly Ils. 40,110. A " 205 W,.UIa ~WI VAISAKHA 26.1907 (SAKA) Wrlt."~

Vis,iting Committee &I'poiftted by the "WELFARE'be pleased ,to state': Commission had assessed the requirements for development srants. Action on the report (a) tbe suicide rate in different States of the Committee ·would be taken as soon of India; the State Grovernment informs the Commis­ sion about the amendments made to the (b) the rearsons for suicide; and Act and Sta tutes of the University. (c) ratio of rna les and females in suell cases? (English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Suicide Rate in India MINISTRY OF SOCIAL AND WOMENtS WELFARE (SHRIMATI M. CHANDRA· 7010. SARI R. ANNANAMBI : Will SEKHAR) : (a) to (c). The requisite infor­ the Minister of SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S mation is annexed at Statements I-III.

Statement-l Incidence 01 Suicides Volume of Suicides per lakh of population during 1982

SI. Name of States/U. Territories Estimated No. of Vo). of p~. No. and Cities mid year suici­ suicides tage of population des per total in 1000 100.000 5ucjdes of popu- lation

1 2 3 4 5 ti

1. Andhra Pradesh 53593 2990 5.58 6.1 2. Assam 19903 1705 8.57 3.8 3. Bihar 69823 714 1.02 1.6 4. Gujarat 23961 1793 5.28 4.0 5. Haryana 128S1 461 3.59 1.0 6. Himachal Pradesh 4238 90 2.12 0.2 7. J & K 5954 22 0.37 8. Karnataka 37044 5295 J4.29 11.9 9. Kerala 25403 4613 18.16 10.3 10. Madhya Pradesh 52139 3051 5.85 6.9 11. Mabarasl.tra 62715 3890 6.20 8.1 12. Manipur 1412 41 2.90 0.1 13. Meghalaya 1328 36 2.71 0.1 14. Nagaland 773 5 0.65 15. Orissa 26272 2303 8.77 5.1 16. Punjab 16670 359 2.15 0.8

17. Raja~than 34108 937 2.7S 2.1 18. Sikkirn 315 17 5.40 19. Tamil Nadu 48297 S490 11.37 12.3 20. Tripura 2047 550 26.81 1.2 21. Uttar Pradesh 110886 2477 2.24 5.S 22. West Benga I S4486 6881 12.63 15.4

Tota' (States) 674218 43,720 61.48 97.7 207 Written Answers MAY 16, 198~ . Written Answers 208

1 2 3 4 5 6

23. Andaman & N icobar Island 188 72 38.30 0.2 24. Arunachal Pradesh 628 23 3.66

25. Chandigarh 450 21 4.67 26. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 104 l~ 14.12

27. Delhi 6196 435 7.02 1.0 28. Goa, Daman & Diu 1082 86 7.95 0.2 29. Lakshdweep 40 1 2.50 30. Mizoram 488 7 1.44 31. Pondicherry 604 352 58.28 0.9

Total (UTS) 9780 1012 10.3~ 2.3

Orand Total 683998 44732 71.83 100.0

Note : Population figures are actual census figures as on 1.3.1981 and the volume per lakh of population is based on the actua I census figures. Estimated mid year population figures for 1982 are not available.

Statement-ll

Suicides classified accnrding to causes during 1982

S1. Causes of Suicides N umber of Suicidal Percentage No. Deaths to total Suicides

1. Failure in examination 771 1.7 2. Quarrel with parents-in-law 3803 8.S 3. Quarre I with Spouse 2857 6.3 4. Poverty 1202 2.7 5. Love Affairs 2185 4.9 6. Insanity 1428 3.2 7. Dispute over Property 824 1.8 8. Dreadful diseases 6632 14.8 9. Unemployment 518 1.1 10. Bankruptey or sudden change in economic position 374 1.0 II. Deaths of dea r persons 380 1.0 12. Fall in Socia I reputa tion 480 1.0 13. Other Causes 23278 52.0

Total 44732 100.0 W,ltt,,, 2tfJ 209 Written Answer$ VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Answer'

StatemeDt-1I1 Sit/elM. classified accordi", to sex and by States, Union Territories and Metropolitan Cities during 1982

st. States/U. T.s/Cities Male % of Female % of Total No. Male Female to total to tota)

- States 1. Andhra Pradesh 1,683 56.1 1,307 43.7 2.990 1,705 2. Assam 1,229 72.1 476 27.9 3. Bihar 433 60.6 281 39.4 714 4. Oujarat 915 51.1 878 48.9 1.7~3 461 S. Haryana 246 53.4 215 46.6 6. Himachal Pradesh 63 70.0 27 30.0 90 7. Jammu & Kast.m ir 13 59.1 9 40.9 22 39.6 5,295 8. Karnataka 3,196 60.4 2,099 4,613 9. Kera]a 3,188 69.1 1,425 30.9 3,051 10. Madhya Pradesh 1,766 57.8 1,285 42.2 3,890 11. Maharashtra 2,239 57.6 1,651 42.4 41 12. Manipur 33 80.5 8 19.5 25.0 36 13. Meghalaya 27 7S.0 9 5 14. Naga)and 4 80.0 1 20.0 1S. Orissa 1,253 54.4 1,050 45.6 2,303 16. Punjab 261 72.7 98 27.3 359 17. Rajasthan 547 58.4 390 41.6 937 18. Sikkirn 15 88.3 2 11.7 17 5,490 19. Tamil Nadu 3,414 62.2 2,076 37.8 20. Tripura 313 56.9 237 43.1 ~SO 2,477 21. Uttar Pradesh 1,383 55.8 J,094 44.2 6,881 22. West Bengal 3,685 53.5 3,196 46.S _._------,,,.. ,_-_------_... .. _------_...... ---- -~- ,,-~------__ 43,720 Total (States) 25,906 59.3 17,814 40.7 ... ---~.------_ U. T.s 23. A & NIsland 45 62.5 27 37.S 72 24. Arunachal Pradesh 13 56.6 10 43.S 23 28.6 21 25. Chandigarb IS 71.4 6 40.0 J5 26. D & N Haveli 9 60.0 6 46.7 435 27. Delhi 232 53.3 203 32.6 86 28. Goa" Daman & Diu ~g 61.4 28 100.0 1 29. Lakshadweep 1 7 30. Mizoram 6 85.8 1 14.~ 352 31. Pondicherry 236 67.1 116 32.9 Total (UTs) 614 60.7 398 39.3 1.012 Orand Total 26,520 '9.3 l8,212 40.7 ".132 211 Written AnswerJ MAY 16, 198' Written Answers 212

1 2 3 4 s 6 7

Cities 1. Ahmedabad 89 48.1 96 51.9 18S 2. Bangalore 395 55.1 325 44.9 718 3. Bombay 112 54.1 95 45.9 207 4. Calcutta 18 43.9 23 56.1 41 S. Delhi 219 52.S 198 47.5 417 6. Hyderabad 107 56.9 81 43.1 188 7. Kanpur 21 47.7 23 52.3 44 8. Madras 262 56.7 200 43.3 462 9. Jaipur 61 48.4 6S 51.6 126 10. Pune 78 55.7 62 44.3 140 11. Nagpur 97 49.5 99 50.5 196 12. Lucknow --N. A.--

Total (Cities) 1,459 53.6 1,265 46.4 2,724

Students' Strength in J. N. U. and (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) The number of Per Capita Expenditure students on rolls of the lawahar La1 Nehru University at the commencement of the 7011. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: WHI academic year 1984·85 pursuing fuB-time the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to and part-time courses in each School and state: Centre of the University is given in State­ ment-I attached. (a) the strength of both part time and

full time students in each school and centre (b) The details of studentsy out of those in this academic year in Jawaharlal Nehru admitted during 1984-85, who either dropped University; out or whose names were removed for failure to satisfy the eligibility conditions within the (b' the number of students who have stipulated date, are given in Statement-II dropped out from Jawahar Lal Nehru Uni­ attached. versity as on 31 st January, 1985; and (c) On the basis of the maintenance (c) per capita expenditure in lawahar grants paid during the financial year 1984-85, La) Nehru University in the present academic and the students strength as on 31.1.1985, year? the per capita expenditure works out to approximately Rs. 27.529/- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION

Statement-I ---- -~----- '---" _._---- School/Centre No. of full- Total Part- tin1e Total time students M. Phil/ M. A. Ph. D. ------_... _--_.. __ ._._ ------I. School of International Studies Centre for American & West 39 European Studies. Centre for Studies in DiplomacYt 61 International Law & Economics. 213 Written Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

1 2. 3 4

Centre for East Asian Studies. 44 Centre for International 70 Politics & Organisation. Centre for South East & Central 42 Asian Studies. Centre for Soviet & East European 43 Studies. Centre for West Asian & African 3S Studies. M. A. in Politics 58 (International Studies)

Total 334 58 392 392

--"--.--~, .~-~-.

II. School of Social Sciences Centre for the study of Regional 102 27 Development Centre for Historical Studies 86 35 Centre for the study of Social 106 35 Systems. Centre for Political Studies. 72 28 Centre for Economic Studies 29 44 & Planning Zakir Hussain Centre for Educa- 27 tional Studies. Centre for Social Medicine & 27 Community Health Centre for the Studies in Science 2 Policy.

Total 451 169 620 620

School/Cen tre No. of full- Part ... time time Pre- Advan- Dip- Ccrti- T Students Deg- ced lorna fleate 0 M.philj ree Dip- of of T Ph.D M.A. Djp- loma pro- profi .. A loma of fi~n ... ciency L Proil- cy ciency

1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8

111. School of Languages Centre of Africa') " Asian LaDluaaes 10 69 8 7 58 Centre of French Studies 19 77 8 31 3' Wrillen Answers ~l.S MAY 16. 1985· Written tfMwflfl ~I'

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Centre of German Studies 6 57 Centre of Indian Languages 71 13 15 16 Centre of Linguistics & English Linguistics 27 25 Philosophy 3

Centre of Russian Studies 9 84 12 2~ Centre of Spanish S 38 10 60

Total 150 363 8 23 60 194 798 ------..-..--....- .~---~ .. ----...-- IV. School of Life Sciences 71 19 90 V. School of Computer & Systems Sciences 35 3S VI. School of Environmental Sciences 55 55

Grand Total 1990

Statement-II

Name of School No. admitted ·No. dropped out M.Philj M.A. Part- M .Phil/ M.A. Part Total Ph. D. time Ph.D. time & & Dip- Dip- loma lorna

-~- .-~--, ------.. ~,------1. School of International 128 59 9 12 21 Studies 2. School of Social Sciences 169 170 17 48 65 3. School of Languages 53 173 288 2 28 164 194 4. School of Life Sciences 32 21 S 3 ... 8 5. School of Computer & Systems 15 4 4 Sciences

6. School of Enviromental 19 ... 6 6 Sciences

426 413 288 43 91 164 298 ·The ficure8 include the number of students either dropped out or their names removed . for their f(!ilure to satisfy the eligjblity conditions within the stipulated date.

Progress of on-lolDa Projects in since 1983; and Maharashtra (b) the progress made so far in respect 7012. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: cf them in physical and financial terms. Will the Minister of RAIL\VAYS b<.! pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) tbe details and the particulars of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRJ the oJ}-loing. railway projects sanctioned and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b). A taken up for construction in Maharashtra Statement is attached. 211 Written .Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answ,rs 218

Statement

M _ _"_,_ •• ~ __" .. ______~ ____..-"'_' , ___... ~ ____.. 81. No. Name of Project Phyysical Financial remark progress expenditure as on up to 31-3-1985 31-3-1985 % age (in crorees of ropes)

1 2 3 4 5

New Lines 1. Mankhurd-Balapur with a bridge across Thane 0.86 1.42 Creek (18 kms.) Gaup C... "er.ions 1. Parbhani-Purna and Mudkhed-Adilabad conversion 0.20 and Purna Mudkhed parallel BO line (248 kms.) Doublings 1. Additional pair of lines between Andhere and Bandra 1.4 1.15 with fly over at Ravli Other Traffie FaeiH ties 1. Vikhroli-Provision of 4th Terminal-Acquisition of land 0.04 2. Vikhroli-Provision of 4th Terminal (Phase-I) 3. Udhana-Jalgaon sectionline capacity works Partly in Gujarat Road O,er/Under Bridges ). ROB between Kandivli - Borivli 0.06 2. ROB at Pj,mpri 27.0 0.36 3. ROB at Chunabbathi 0.01 4. ROB at Wardha 0.05 S &: T Pro lects 1. Bhusawal-RRI 2. Replacement of AC Vane type relays and power supply Nil Nil system, colour light signals on Boriveli-Virar Section. 3. Replacement of existing Vane type relays, track N iJ Nit circuits, lever frames at Goregaon. 4. Replacement of 800 line telephone exchange by an 'Nil Nil eloctronic exchange at Cburchgate. S. Improvement of communication system on the Bomba)' Nil Nil suburban section. Wor.... p aDd SJleds 1. Pune.. Expansion of Diegel shed to home 60 to 12.99 1.26 100 loco!. Elee trifictlOBS 1. Dura-Naapur (265 kIllS.) 0.01 186 kms. falls in Mabara­ abtnlr 219 Writ tIn AlUwlrs MAY 16, 1985 Written Answers 220

Guidelines Re : Purchale of Medicine Yes, Sir. 318 Mobile Clinics were received by Kits the Government of India under the U.K. Aid Programme. These are attached to the 701~. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Medical College to invoJe them in the delivery Will the Minister of HEALTH AND of Health Care Services to rural and semi­ FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: rural population. The Medical college in in Gujarat have been supplied 15 Mobile (a) whether it is a fact that some state clinics @ 3 Mobile clinics per college. The Governments have not followed the Central total amount released to the State Govern­ Government guidelines for purchase of ment of Gujarat for the purpose of imple­ medicine kits for supply to Village Health menting the Rome Scheme in the 5 medical Guides; colleges is Rs. 80.20 lakhs. The progress (b) names of States which have Dot reports of utilisation of the Mobile Clinics followed the guideliness of Union Govern­ in Gujarat are being recejved regularly from ment; and all excepting one Medical College. The Mobile Clinics are meant for the delivery of health (c) the States which could not spend the care services to the rural and semi-rural popu­ total amount sanctioned for the purpose by lation and not for the urban population. The the Central Government and the details use of these clinics varies from institution to thereof? institution depending on a number of factors THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE including the terrain, 'nature of existing THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI rural health services and the availability of YOGENDRA MAK WANA) : (a) to (c). The supplementary resources etc. Wherever information is being collected from the State possible, these clinics are also used for other UTs. The same will be laid on the Table national health programmes. of the Sabha as soon as received. Recommendations made by Committee Mobile Clinics Attached to Medical Constituted to look into Grievances Colleges and Particularly in Gujarat . or CGHS Pharmacists 7014. SHRI R. P. GAEKWAD : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY 7015. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will WELFARE be pleased to state: the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that for the pur­ pose of the re-orientation of medical schemes, (a) the details of recommendations made over 300 mobile clinics had been supplied to by the Committee constituted to look into to the medical colleges all over the country; the grievance of CGHS Pharmacists and what was the date of submission of report (b) if so, number of such mobile clinics to the Government; supplied to the Medical Colleae in Gujarat and the amount spent for the purpose; (b) the recommendations made by the Committee on each of the grievances of the (c) whether the Government are regularly Pharmacists; and receiving the report of utilisatiQn of mobile clinics from the respective medical college; (c) recommendations implemented so far by the Government and if some of them not (d) if not, the reasons tberefor; and implemented, the reasons in each case '? (e) details regarding rate of percentage of beneficiaries of tbe urban and rural popu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lation covered under each of the mobile THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH MAKWANA) : (a) to clinic in the States alongwitb an outline for (SHRI YOGENDRA intensifying this scbeme particularly in the (c). The Committee which was constituted to remote areas where doctors and other para look into the grievances of C. G. H. S. medical staff are ,enerally reluctant to serve? pharmacists submitted its report on 2.5.1979 and recommended creation of the foUowina THE MINISTER OF STATE IN promotional posts : THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGBNDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (e). 1. Senior Pharmacist-cum-Store·keeper. 221 Written Answers V AISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) J Wrltt~" A"swers

2. Assistant Store Superintendent. The rehabilitation centres provide necessary surgical treatment for the correction of physi­ 3. Zonal Store Superintedent. cal de·formities for jobs and tools adapta .. 4. Depot Manager. tions. The Leprosy Patients are treated at Leprosy Control Units, Urban Leprosy The recommendations could not be imp­ Centres, SET centres and Leprosy Hospitals, financial constraints. lemented due to etc. Upto end of March, 1985, 30.27 lakb cases have been receiving treatment in various Epidemic of Cholera in Soutb DeIhl units. 7016. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND (c) During 7th Plan period it is proposed FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: to estab1ish 9 more Leprosy Rehabilitation Promotion Units in the country. (a) whether Cholera cases in South Delhi have been reported in the month of April, 1985; Women's Universities (b) whether Cholera has been spreading 7018. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: Will in the epidemic form in Delhi; and the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to state : (c) if so, the steps Government have taken to combat Cholera ? (a) number of women's Universities functioning in our country and since how MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE long; DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) to (c). (b) number of universities recognised so No, Sir. However the necessary preventive far and reasons for not recognisjng others: measures have been initiated. and

(c) whether Government are satisfied Leprosy Patient Rehabilitation Centres that there is sufficent number of women universities jn the country to meet the special 7017. SHRJ CHINTAMANI JENA : needs of our women? SHRI AMAR SINH RATHAWA: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Will the Minister of HEALTH AND (SHRI K. C. PANT); (a) There are at FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: present three women's Universities in the (a) the number of leprosy patient rehabi­ country. The first of these was established litation centres opened in the country with the in 1951 at Bonlbay. The second was establi­ Central assistance; shed at Tirupati in Andhra Pradesh in 1982 and the third at Kodaikanal in Tamil Nadu (b) the number of leprosy patients treated in 1984. in each Centre; and (b) These universities have been establi­ (c) whether there is any proposal to shed under Acts of the respective State establish more leprosy patient rehabilitation Legislatures and do not therefore require centres in the country to avoid spreading of any further recognition by the UGS or the this infectious disease, if so, the details Central Government. However, the two uni­ thereof? versities in Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu MINISTER OF STATE IN THE established in 1983 and 1984 respectively are DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI yet to be declared fit by the UGC to receive YOGENDRA MAKWANA); (a) and (b) : Central assistance. Under the National Leprosy Eradication Programme a scheme for the estabHshment (c) The facilities offered by all the uni­ of Leprosy Rehabilitation Promotion Units versities in the country are a Iso accessible to in ditf'erent States/Union Territories is being women. The Central Government has there­ implemented. Out of 1S such centres sanc· fore no proposal to set up separate univer­ tioned 7 centres have been establisbed so far. sities for women. 223 Written AnSwefJ MAY 16, 1985 Written AlUw~r' 224 f.'I'ralfslatlon] (c) how are these reNlts fM Into prac­ tice 1 MederDl.. tion sf Power St&tlees of V,llai, Gandhi Nqar, DhruwaD THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE In GuJ.rat DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (iHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) It iJ III 7019. SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA: Institute of national importance set up by an Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Act of Parliament and financially supported POWER be pleased to state: by Deptt. of Science. and Technology under (a) the funds allotted for modernisation the Ministry of Science and Technology. of power station of Ukai, Gandhi Nagar, Facilities include laboratories for biometo­ Dbruvran in Gujarat; rials science, and biomedical cnaineerios,. a fully equipped surgical centre for patients in (b) the defects found in these three power cardiology neurology and cardio-thorasic stations and the steps being taken to remove surgery. It also has facilities for post.. graduate them; and training courses in above areas; (c) by what time the modernisation work is likely to be completed and the extent to (b) and (c). The research and develop­ which production will be increased after ment work is taken up in bio-medical modernisation ? engineer~ng and technology, basic research studies in Biosurface technology and throm­ MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEP­ bosis. The technologies for bio-medical devices ARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN developed by the Institute (double blood bag NEHRU): (a) the total loan assistance disposable oxygenator and cardiotomy reser· sanctioned under the Central scheme for voir-cum·filter) were transferred for increased power generation by removing the cOlnmercial production through National Ukai, Gandhinagar and Dhruvran station is Resear<.;h and Development Corp. of India. about Rs. 21.34 crores. Similarly, the Chitra tilting disc valve and prosthetic vascular graft are scheduled (b) The major items of work covered to enter commercial production. under the renovation and modernisation programme relate to boilers, including economicers and air prcheaters, control and Norms laid down by UGC for Sanc­ instrumentation, turbo-generators and turbine tioning Grants for Development auxiliaries, etc. Activities

(c) The programme ;s expected to be 7021. PROF. NARAIN CHAND eompleted in about three to four years. The PARASHAR: Will the Minister of BDU­ expected increase in generation after imple­ CA TION be pleased to state : mentation of the programmes in the three (a) the norms and conditions stipulated l'ower stations is expected to be about 500 by University Grants Commission for sanc" million units per year. tion of grants for library. laboratory, buil­ dings, hostels and other development I;lctivi .. [English) ties in various colleges in the States; . Status of "Sree Chfthira Thlruoal (b) whether any distinction is made Medical CentTe, Trivendrum" between urban aod rural colleges;

1020. DR. K. G. ADIYODI: Will the (c) if so, the nature of the distinction MLnistcr of HEALTH AND FAMILY and the exact criteria in each case; and WELf' ARE he pleased to state : (d) the definition of rural and urban (8) what is the statu! of 'Sree Chithira coUescs recognised by the Commission in Tbirunal Medical Centre, Trivendrum~ and this regard ? facilities extended by Central Government; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (b) what are the fietds in which research (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) During the Sixth is beina conducted at thi~ centre and the Plan, the UGC has been providing assistance results thereof; and to Colleges recognised under Section 2· (0 226 225 Written A".twers VAISAKHA 26,1907 (SAKA) Written AnSwers

and, where applicable. (,declared fit under (a.) whether it is a fact that• there bas 1 Section 12-B of the UOC Act. The condi­ been a slaggering increase in the i cost' esti; tions of elig{bjIity' prescribed for different mates of power projects sanctioned by the purposes' are as follows : Centre so for;

1. Basic A~6islance -Colleges which (b)' jf so, the range of the' 'increli'e' in have 150 students in degree courses, cost estimates' over the original estimates; and 5 permanent teachers are sanctioned basic assistance on 100 (c) the number and names of the project, per cent basis for faculty improve­ where such increases have takt:n place; and ment, books and journals and . (d) the reusons therefor? equipment. The quantum of grants for books and journals is deter­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mined at the rate of Rs. 50 per stu­ DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI A RUN dent subject to a maximum of NEHR U) : (a) to (c), Statements showing Rs, 40,000 :and equipment grant'at name, original sanctioned ~ost and cost as the rate of Rs. 150 per student in now antiCipated of thermal and hydro power courses involving laboratory work, projects in the country sanctioned by the subject to a maximum of Centre are given at Annexures-l and 2 Rs. 50.000. laid on the Table of the House. 2. Development grants - Development (Placed in Library. See No. LT-1130j85) grants are sanctioned to colleges which have at]east 4 departments (d) The main reasons for increase in the with a minimum of 2 teachers in cost estimates are :- each and a total strength of 10 (0 Increase in' the' cost of plant and permanent teachers; and a total equipnlents; student strength of 300 in degree courses. Such colleges with an (ii) Incrca se in the cost of steel. cement, enrolment of 300-600 students are other raw materials and labour; sanctioned 8 total grant of Rs. 4 Jakhs, those with an enrolment of (iii) Change in scope of work including 601-2000, Rs. 5 Jakhs and those changes in design necessitated be­ cause of geological and other site with an enrolment of 2001 and above Rs. 7.5 lakhs. Within these' ceilings, conditions; the Commission provides assistance (iv) Inadequate provisions in the origi­ to the extent of 75 per cent on staff, nal estimates; and books and equipment and extension programmes; 100 per cent 00 faculty (v) Increase in customs duty etc. due to improvement programmes and import of equipment necessitated remedial courses, and 50 per cent by externa I financial arrangements,' on buildings. etc.

(b)' Inc! (c). In the case of colJeges loca­ Indo-Bangladesh Joint Rlfer ted in rural areas, assistance on the above Commission basis is sanctioned by relaxing the minimum enrolment requirement from 300 to 200. 7023. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will th~' Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER (d) For the purpose of assistance, a be pleased to state: colleae is considered to be located in a rural area if it is outside the limits of a municipa­ (a) whether one day meeting of tbe local lity, corporation, town or notified area, can­ committee of the lndia·BangJadesh Joint' tonment or other similar urban bodies. River· Commls~ion ended at BeJonia in South Tripura on 4 April, J985; Cost Escalation of Power Project (b) if so, the main reasons of failure to 7022. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH; reach any accord: Will'the Mini'ster of IRRIGATION AND (c) other steps Government propose to POWER be pJeased to state : take to settle this issue; 227 Written An$wn, MAY 16, 198.5 228

(d) whether any fresh official level talks Major Railway Projects in West are likely to be undertaken; and BeDaal 7024. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : Will (e) if so, by what time ? the Minister of RAILWAYS be plea~ to state: THB MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (a) the particulars of the. major railway AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA... projects sanctioned and taken up for . cons­ NAND): (a) The meeting was held on truction in West Bengal during the last three 3.4.1985. years; (b) the progress so far made in respe ct (b) The Bang1adesh side did not agree of them in physical and financial terms; and to stop the works undertaken by them oppo­ site Belonia. . (c) whether the progress is very poor; and (c) to (e). The matter was discussed in (d) jf so. the reasons therefor '1 the Standing Committee of the Joint Rivers Commission on 30th April 1985. As there THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE were differences, the Standing Committee has MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI rer~rred the matter to the Joint Rivers MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (d). A Commission. statement is attached.

Statement

Paris (a) to (d) :--Particulars of major Railway Projects sanctioned during 1982-83, 1983-84 alld 1984-85 are indlcated below, together with progress thereof:

(Figures in Cro,es of ~s.)

Si. Name of Project Year of Anticipated Progress Reasons for No. approval Expenditure slow progress, upto Mar. if any '85

1 2 3 4 5 6

A. New Lines

1. Eklakhi - Balurghat with exten- 83-84 3.40 2% Constraint of sion from Eklakbi-Malda funds. Town (110 kms)

2. Tamluk-Disha (88 kms) 84-85 Not cleared by Plannins Commission.

D.· Doubllagl J. Muri-Bokaro (Ph. III) (13 kms) 83 .. 84 0.23 Constraint of resources.

2. EkJakhi - Kumedpur (42 km) 84·8, Works sanc· tioned recen .. tly. 229 Written Answ~$ VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Writl.. .dnsw,r, 230

1 2 3 4 S ------,_._---- 6 C. Road Over/UDder Bridles

1. Construction of Road over 83 .. 84 24.80 lacs 100% Work on ap- bridge at MaIda. (Rly. proaches yet portion) to be taken up by the State Govern .. ment.

2. Construction of Road over 83-84 7.00 lacs Plans and bridge at Jadavpur. estimates arc being finali .. sed. 3. Construction of road over 83 .. 84 7.42 lacs 20% bridge at Serampur. 4. Construction of road over 83-84 11.15 lacs 15% bridge at Belgaria.

5. Construction of road over 84·85 Plans and bridge at Sodepur. estimates are being finalised. 6. Construction of road over 82-83 State Govern- bridge at Purulia. ment yet to finalise plans for road approaches and sanction the estimates.

D. Other Works 1. Setting up new Divol. office 84-85 0.75 ers. 40% at MaIda Town.

E. Workshops 1. Lilluah -Modernisation - of 84-85 0.30 The work C&W Repair Workshop (Ph. II) bas been re- cently inclu- ded in the Budget 84 .. 8S.

F. Metro Projects

1. Circular Railway, Calcutta 84·85 10.0 12% Formal approval from Planniog Commission is awaited.

G. Trame Facilities 1. Bidhannaaar Road-acquisition 84-85 0.10 Recently iD" of land for additional faciUtiC$ eluded in the BudIet.·~· .. MAY ,16 • .1985 Written An&WBrS \ 231 Wrilten Answers , ' ' ',~. ~32 I.;:' • ~ , .1 ~, I • , " ' I '

1 2 3 4 5 6

2. a) M~lda Town -Kumdepur 84-85 1.25 ~do- section remodelling of Old " Naida and pther traffic . f~cilitics b) Kumdepur-New Jalpai- guri section - Provisipn of 2nd loop with Unidirectio- rial reception facilities at 3 stations

3. : Kumdepur-New Bongaigaon 84-85 0.10 Due to const- section raint of reso- urces. a) Provision of tokenless Block working from Kum", depur to New Bongaigaon Le. 52 stations

b) Provi'sion of 2nd loop at 12 stations.

4. Haldia-Panskura section- 84-85 0.58 Recently in .. . Augumentation of section eluded in the capacity Budget.

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Representation from Stud~nts of ,lamia Airlines and the Air India acceptmg the Millis University graduates of this course for employment as Graduate Engineers would arise only after .. 7025, SHRI GOPAL KRISHNA the course is appropriately upgraded. THOTA : Will the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to state : [Translat ion]

(a) whether the students studying Air­ Rea lisa liOD of Penalty for ~diDg craft Maintenance Engineering, Department Coal in Railwar Wason ia ix.cess of Technology in lamia Millia University, of the Prescribed Limit . New Delhi. submitted a written representa- . tion to the effect that their course should be 7026. SHRI MANVENDRA. SINGH: treated as a B.E. (Aircraft Maintenance); Will the MiJlister of ,RAILWAYS b~ pleased to state: (b) whether their course would be recog­ (a) whether the Coal India Limited, the nised, by Indian Airlines and Air India for Dircetor, Railway Movement and Federation employment in their respective organi~allons of Indian Chambers of Commerce had taken without a licence from Director General of a decision in 1984 that th",,~qalty fOJ; f' lqad­ Civil Aviation: and ing coal in railway wagon in excess of tbe (c) if not, the reasons therefor? prescribed limit, would be realised from the customer; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (b) if so, the reasons for doing so when (S~Rl K. C. PANT) : (a) Yes, Sir. the Coal India Limited or Railways are (b) and (c). The course presently offered actually responsible for loading coal in the by the Jamia is not of the degree level, and wagons in excess of the preSl:ribed )~it; and ,JNoukl.1~ire to be upgraded. to Qualify for .~8ojt'on, as equivalent to B.E. (Aircraft (c) whether Government p,roposc to Main"DaJ)t;c). The question of the Indian real ise this penalty either from the Coal India Wrillen Answers VAISAKHA 26, 1901 ($AKA) 2:\4

Limited or from Railways or from aQY other tic fields. Theoretical work is also done in USA. agency responsible r therefor instead of reali­ sing it from customers ? News Item 'l.Juxury Bus Owners' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Flourishing Racket MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA): (a) No such 7026-B. SHRI MOOL CHA.ND decision was taken. The recovery of penalty DAGA: "charge ,from the person paying the freight SHRJ RAM SAMUJHAWAN: charges is as per .the Goods Tariff rules. Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) and (c). Do not arise. (a) whether attention of Government bas [English] been drawn to the news item 'Luxury Bus Owners' flourishing racket' appearing in the Tfeat~eDt of Patients by Bio­ Hindustan Times dated 19 April, 1985; ma,genetism (b) if so, the number ,of Deluxe and 7026-A. SHRI G. G. SWELL: Will Video buses registered in Delhi, Jaipul and the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Agra during tbe Jast three years, Year-wise; ,WELFARE be pleased to state: (c) the number of cases of non-issuance (a) whether there are arrangements within of regular tickets, maintaining duplicate ticket the country for treatment of patients by books, coaches registered under different biomagnetism; names and extra coaches plying without registration detected by Government ,and (b) if so, where; action taken against the defaulters during (c) whether we are in touch with other last two years in Delhi; and cpuntries. on this state-of-the art medical (d) the num ber of such coaches which technology; and are under Government operation at present (d) the names of those countries and the in Delhi, Jaipur and Agra ? broad indications of their successes? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SHIPP1NG AND TRANS" DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI PORT (SHR1 Z. R. ANSARI): (8) Yes, YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) The Sir. IC~R have repprted that it is not possible (b) While the information in respect of to feed magnetic fields from living ~rgaqjsms Deluxe .and Video buses registered at Jaipur into the body. However, it is well known and Agra during last three years is yet to:. be that exposure of the body to magnetic fields received from concerned State Governments, alter body functions e.g. brain waves (EEG), similar information in respect of Delhi is blood flow and possibly inflammatory reac· given hereunder :- tion. Also, it is well established that the hurqan body produces wagnetic fields. Mea- 1982 1983 1984 , surements of these fields are used for diag­ Buses: 25 37 41 nostic purposes e.g. "magnetocardiography:' (c) The luxury and video coaches refer- (b) Magnetic fields are being used for red to in the question fall in the calCJor1 of therapy. Devices are manufactured in India Contract Carriage which is meant to carry to affect biomagnetism and influence disease. p~naers for hire under a contract to \l5e Most of these are elementary and/or in tbe . the vehicle as a whole .and therefore the realm of quackery. A charitable trust in ..' question of issuing tickets to individual ,tdadras is running a m~netotherap)' clinic passengers does not arise. De1hi Administra- ", i~~larly. ' tion .have intimated that no irregularity has (c) No, Sir. come to their notice about any dUl)licate ticket booths, plyiOS of extra coaches ,witbout (d) USSR and Germany are involved in rqpstrations or rcaittration not coofonninl to studiel reprdinl biolaaical effects or mape- tbe requiromcotl of replations. 235 Written Answer, MAY 16, 1985 236

(d). At preseot 20 coaches including A.C. der check post. The questson of evasion of coaches are uDder operation by Delhi Tour­ tax in' such cases is negligible. ism Development Corporation in Delhi. Similar information in'respect of Jaipur and Instances of malpractices and clandestine Agra is yet to be received from the concer­ opera Hons particularly with regard to buses/ ned State Governments. coaches operating on All IndIa Tourist per­ mits have come to light and steps have since been initiated to modify the scheme to elimi­ LUXllry and Video Coaches Operated nate scope for misuse of tourist buses. by Private Partlel

7026-C. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLIK SHRI RAM SAMUJHAWAN : 12.00 hrs. Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state : PROF. MADHU DANDAVAIE (Raja­ pur) : I want to make two submissions. (a) whether it is a fact that almost all N umber one: One privilege notice I have the luxury and v ideo coaches operating given. It has been pending. I have received a between major metropolitan cities of the n1emora'ndum. I would request you to take country are run by private parties which have it up tomorrow. a well knit network to hoodwink various tax authorities; I Trans larion]

(b) whether it is also a fact that a majo­ MR. SPEAKER: We shall see. rity of the operators have booking agents at strategic points in every city where a passen­ ger can book a seat in the luxury coach in advance on payment of full fare for the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Secon­ journey for which he is issued a receipt; dly, Sir, this being almost the last day I would like to raise one question regarding (c) whether it is also a fact that no ticket the artistes in the country. We are going to is issued to the passenger at all and even have Festival of India in France and United the cash receipt is taken away by the conduc­ States of America. tor in the bus on the pretext that he would have to collect the money from the booking [Trans/alion) agent; and MR. SPEAKER: You may give notice (d) whether these rackets have come to under Rule 377. the notice of Government and if so, the details thereof and the reaction of Govern­ [English] ment thereon? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Three THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Bharata Natyam artistes .•• MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS­ MR. SPEAKER: You give it in writing. PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) to (d). Not like this. The luxury and video coaches referred to in the question faU in the category of Contract PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I have Carriage bus, which is meant to carry passen­ given. gers on hire . under a contract using the MR. SPEAKER: 1 will allow it. vehicle as a whole. The question of issuing tickets to individual passengers tberefofC, does not arise. MR. SPEAKER: We wiU allow. But Eacb State GO\lernment/U.T. Administ­ not like this. I will allow in a regUlar ration invariably realises the tax for the manner. period for wbich perm~t is issued and when the vehicle crosses the State bordert the tax PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I AU respect of tbe State is realised at the bor.. don't say 'lrreaularly'-reau1arly onl)' I say. 237 VAISAKHA 26,1907 (SAKA) Papers Laid 138

MR. SPEAKER ; 1 will allow you under SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: How can it 317. No problem. be permitted there and not permitted here 1

SHal 1NDRAnT GUPTA (Basirhat): MR.. SPEAKER : We will see to it. It Sir, I had thought orginally of coming to you should not have been. and meeting you in your chamber. You win SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : We must focaive me. But after something has happened I thought I must make my submission here have some remedy for this kind of thing. in this House. That is the question of what MR. SPEAKER : I will see to it. I consider to be discrimination against this House. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Sir. what about the privilege motion given by Mr. MR. SPEAKER: About what? Purna Chandra Malik '?

SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: I bad given MR. SPEAKER: We are doing it. notice of a Question which was returned to SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Sir, me by·· tomorrow is the last day of the Session. saying, your Question cannot be admit­ ted. I asked him to explain to me why it MR. SPEAKER: Does not maHer. It had not been admitted. I was told by the m!ght be the last day of the Session. man who came to see me, that this Question which related to that agreement between India PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, and Italy about research in defence matters,­ we have spoken so much. Tomorrow at Zero Hour you give your ruling on our privilege it has not been admitteu, because it may t contain some classified in formation which motions. You speak, Sir, and we will listen. cannot be given out in the interests of the security of our country. I kept quiet. I said, (Interrupt ions) an right; that may be so. To my surprise today I find in the Papers, Sir, that the same MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Raghuma Reddy, question has been answered along with sup' No, no question. Please take your seat. That plementary questions iri the other House. is not the way. Something cannot be classified information for Lok Sabha and not classified information (Interrupt ions) for the other House. What kind of rules and MR. SPEAKER: Papers to be lajd on what kind of norms are we following? I do not understand. ]t can be permitted in the Table. the other House and not permitted in this House? Somebody must look into this.

MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. I 12.20 bri. wi 11 t~lk to you. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE SURI INDRAJIT GUPTA: This can .. not be treated as a sC'cond-class House. [English} MR. SPEAKER: No. No question. Calcutta Metro R:lilway (Operatloa SHRI INDRAHT GUPTA: I am very and Maintenance) Temporal')' Pro­ annoyed about this thing. I have spoken to visions Act 1985. YOU. I have given a Calling Attention. You St. temen t showing reasons for delay had promised that you would get some report in laying the above papers on the from the Minister. I had asked him to make TabJe a statement. (Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MR. SPEAKER : On that very report, BANSILAL) : I beg to lay on the Table ... the man must have gone to you. I do not (1) A copy or the Calcutta Metro Railway know bow it can be differentiated. (Temporary Provisions) General Rules, I 1984 (Hindi and Bullish versions 239 Popers Laid MAY 16, 1985 Papers Laid 240

published in Notification No. G.S.R. ment on the working of the 735 (E) in Gazette of -India dated the National Book Trust, Inc:Ha~ New 22nd October, 1984 under sub-section Delhi, for the year 1983·84~· ' (3) of section 22 of the Calcutta (4) A statement (Hindt· and'EnallslrV'eri ' : Metro Railway (Operation and Main .. sions) shOWing reasons for, delAY' in 1, ten'ance) Temporary Provisions Act, laying the papers mentioned" at '(3) 198', above. (2) A statement (Hindi and English ver­ [Placed in Library See No LT 943/85] sions) showing reasons for delay in (5) A copy uf the Annual Accounts (Hindi laying the notification mentioned at and English versions) of the North (1) above. Eastern Hill University, ShiIlo:18,' ·for [Placed in Library See No L T 941/85] the year 1982-83 together with Audit Report thereon. Ann ...' Reports and Review of tbe (6) A statement (Hindi and English ver.. Indian Council of Social Science sions) showing reasons for delay in Research, New Deihl, Nationa J laying the papers mentioned at (5) Book Trust, India, New above. Deihl, 'etc. for the year [Placed in Library See No L T 944/85) 1983-84. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (7) (0 A copy of the Annual RePort (SHItt I{. C. PANT): I beg to lay on the (Hindi and English versions) of Table ••• the lawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, for the year 1983-84. (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and Engli~h versions) of (i i) A copy of the Review (Hinde and Indian Council of Social Science English versions) by the Go'vern-' Re~eaTch. New Delhi, for the year ment on - the working of tbe 1983-84 along with Audited Jawaharlal Nehru UniverSity, Accounts. New Delhi, for the year 1983 .. 84~

(ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and (8) A statement (Hindi and English ver~ English versions) by the Govern. sions) showing reasons for delay in ment on the working of the laying the papers mentioned at (7) Indian Council of Social Science above. Research, New Delhi, for the [Placed in Library. See No. LT' 9'4S/85] , year 1983-84. (Placed in Library Sel' No. LT 942/85] (9) (i) A copy of the Annual Accounts (Hindi and' English versions) of the National Council of Educa;. (2) A statement (Hindi and English v~r­ sions) showing reasons for delay in tional Research and Training, laying the papers mentioned at a (l) New Delhi for the year 1983:..g4, above. together with Audit Report thereon. (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (ii) A statement (Hindi and English (Hindi and English versions) of versions) regarding Review by the the National Book Trust, India. Government on the I Audited New Deltli, for the year 1983484 along with Accounts. Accounts of the 'National Council of Educational Research and (ii) A copy of the Audited Report Training, New Delhi, for the' (Hindi and English versions) on year 1983-84. the' accounts of the National BooK 'Trust. India, New De1hi, (10) A statement (Hmdi and English ver­ for the year 1983-84. sions) showing reasoh5 for delay in '( laying the paper' mentioned' 'at (9)' " (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and above. Rnllish versions) by ·the Govern- [Placed in Library Se~ No. LT' 946/85] 241 Paper' Laid VA lSAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Papers Laid 242

(11) (0 A copy of the Annual Report Statement sbo"iDK realoal for dela, (Hindi and English versions) of for not laylDg the Annual Report and the Indian Council of Philoso­ Audited Accouuts of the Chlldrea's phical Research, New Delhi, for Film Society, India within the the year 1983-84. stipulated period

(ii) A copy 'of the Annual Accounts THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (Hindi and English versions) of MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND the Indian Council of Philosophi­ BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : cal Research, New Delhi, for the I beg to lay on the Table a Statement (Hindi year 1983-84 together with Audit and English versions) explaining the reasonS Report thereon. for 'not laying the Annual Report and Audited Accounts of the Children's Film Society, (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi India, for the year 1983-84 within tbe stipu­ and English versions) by the lated period of nine months after the close Government on the working of of the Accounting Year. the Indian Council of Philosophi­ [Placed in Library. See No. L T 949/85] cal Research, New Delhi, for the year 1983 -84. Notification under Major Port Trusts Act 1963 Annual Report and Review (12) A statement (Hindi and English ver­ of the Deihl Transport Corporation. sions) showing reasons for delay in Statement showing reasons for not laying the papers mentioned at (11) laying the Annual Administration above. Report of the Pepsu Road Transport [Placed in Library. See No. LT 947/85] Corporation, PaHala

(13) A copy of the Annual Accounts (Hindi THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and English versions) of the Aligarh MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COM­ Muslim University, Aligarh, for the PANY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF year 1983-84 together with Audit STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME Report thereon. AFFAIRS (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : J bel to lay on the TabJe ...

(14) A statement (Hindi and English ver­ (1) A copy of Notification No. G.S.R. 305 sions) showing reasons for delay in (E), (Hindi and English versions) publi­ laying the papers mentioned at (13) shed in Gazette of India dated the 25th above. March, 1985 approving the Tuticorin Port Trust (AJlotment of Residence) (15) A statement (Hindi and English ver­ Amendment Regulations, 1985, under sions) explaining reasons for not laying sub-section (4) of section 12 A of the the Annual Reports of the AJigarh Major Port Trusts Act, 1963. Muslim University, Aligarh for the [Placed in Library See No. LT 950/851 year 1981-82, 1982-83 and 1983-84, Annual Report of the university of (2) A copy of the Notification No. G S.R. Delhi, Delhi, for the year 1983-84, 357 (H indi and English versior.s) Annual Report of the University of published in Gazette of India dated Hyderabad for the year 1983-84, the 6th April, 1985 containing Rules Annual Reports of the North-Eastern for inspecting, surveying and regulat­ Hill University for the year 1982-83 ing vessels which are not -self-propel­ and 1983-84 and Annual Accounts of ling plying within the limits of the the North-Eastern H ill University for Port of Bombay, under section 6 (2B) the year 1983-84, and Annual Report of (If the Indian Ports Act, 1908. tht Visva Bharati for the year 1983-84 [Placed in Library. &e No. LT 9S J/85] within the stipulated period of nine months a fter the close of the Account­ (3) A copy of tbe Annual Accounts (Hindi ing Year. and En,Usfl versional of tbe Kandl. (Placed in Library. See No. LT 948/85) Port Trust for the year 1983-84 aDd Papers I.. alel MAY 16, 1985 Popers l.ald 244

the Audit Report tbereon, under sub. DHANA POOJARY) : I beg to Jay on the aection (2) of section 103 of the Major Table ... Port Trusts Act, 1963. (1) A copy of the Post Office Time (4) A statement (Hindi and English Ver­ Deposit (Amendment) Rtiles, 1985 sions) Showing reasons for delay in (Hindi and English versions) publi­ Jaying the papers mentioned at (3) shed in Notification No. O.S.R. 418 above. (E) in Gazette of India dated the tPlaced in Library. See No, LT 952/85] 10th May, 1985, under sub-section (3) of section 1S of the Govern· (5) (j) A copy of the Annual Report ment Savings Banks Act, 1973. (Hindi and English versions) of [Placed in Lihrary. See No. LT 955/85] the Delhi Transport Corporation, New DeJhj, for the yeaf 1983-84, under sub-section (3) of section (2) A copy of the Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Comptro. 3.5 of the Road Transport Cor­ porations Act, 1950. 1Jer and Auditor General of lndia for the year 1983-84-Union Government (Civil) under article 151 (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and (J) of the Constitution, English versions) by the Govern­ ment on the working of the Delhi [Placed in Library. See No. LT 956/R5] Transport Corporation, New Delhi, for the year 1983-84. (3) A copy of the Finance Accounts of Union Governme.nt for the year (6) A statement (Hindi and English ver. 1983· 84 (Hindi and English ver­ sions) showing reasons for de1ay in lay­ sions) . ing the papers mentioned at (5) above. [P1aced in Library. See No. L T 957/85} [Placed in Library. See No. L T 953/85J (4) A copy of the Union Government (7) A statement (Hindi and English ver­ Appropriation Accounts (Civil) for sions) explaining the reasons for not the year 1983-84 (Hindi and English laying the Annual Administration versions). Report of the Pepsu Road Transport [Placed in Library. See No. LT 958/85] Corporation, Patiala, for the year t 982·83 within the stipulated period of Notification under Pre"cntion of nine months after the close of the Food Adulteration Act, ]954 A~\:ounting Year ..

(8) A Statement (Hindi and English THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION Versio,s) cxplqining the reasons for (SHRI K. C. PANT); On behalf of Shri not laying the Annual Accounts and Yogendra Mi.lkwana, I beg to lay on the TabJe .. _ the Audit' Rep\)rt ther~on of the Pepsu Road Transport Corporation (I) A <:opy each of the fo IIowing Noti­ for the yenf 1982~R]withjn the stipu­ fkalions (Billdi and English versions) lated period of nine months after under sub-section t 2) of section 23 the close of the Accounting Year. of the Prev~ntion of FOod Aduhe­ [Placed in library. St'e No. L T 954/85] rati()I1 Act, 1954 :

Notification l'ndt" Go.'ernment (i) The Prevention of Food Adul­ Savings Bank Act 1973. teration (Third Amendment R uJes, Union Go\'ernment Appropriation 1984 published in Notification Accounts (Chit) for tbe Year No. G.S.R. 764 (E) in Gazette 198..'\·84 of India dated the t 5th Novem­ tx.r, 1984 together wich a corri­ THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE gendum to the Hindi version MINISTB. Y OF FINANCE (SHRJ JANAR .. published in Noti~(j()n' No. ~4S Arm.! (Amend~nt) Bill 1985 VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) MillIe" 'Und_r Rule J77 2~

G.B.R. 385 (E) in Gazette of "That leave be granted to introduce India dated 29th April, 1985. a Bill further to amend the Arms Act, 1959." (H) The Prevention of Food Adul­ teration (First Amendment) The motion was adopl4d. Rules, 1985 published in Notifi­ cation No. G S.R. 3 (E) in SHRIMATI RAM DULARI SINHA: I Gazette of India dated the· 1st introduce the Bill. January, 1985 together with a corri gendum thereto published in No­ tification No. G.S.R. 142 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 8th 12.22 brs. March, 1985. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in Ihe Chair

(iii) The Prevention of Food Adul­ teration (Second Amendment) MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 Rules, 1985 published in Notifi­ [English] cation No. G .S.R. 11 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 4th (i) Need to Reopen the Bhaskar JanuarY,I985 together with a corri­ Textile MillS, Jhasruguda, Orissa gendum thereon Ipublished in Notification No. G .S.R. 368 (E) SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI (Deo­ in Gazette of India dated the garh): The Bhaskar Textile MiUs, Jharsuguda 18th April, 1985. is onc of the two Textile Mills of Orissa and the only one of its kind in Western part of the [Flaced in Library St!e No. LT 959/85] State. In fact, this is the only major indus­ (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report try in Jharasuguda which being the sate-way (Hindi and English versions) of to Western Orissa is quite an important the Centra) Council for Research place in the State. But it is unfortunate that in Yoga and Naturopathy, New the management of this Mill closed down Delhi, for the year 1983-84. the mill about two years ago, on the plea of labour unrest. The owners of the factory (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi don't seem to have' any regard for the labour and English versions) by the and industrial laws and regulations. They Government on the working of don't pay any heed to the directives of the the Central Council for Research State Government issued from time to time in Yoga and Naturopathy, New obviously for a settlement to reopen tbe mills. Delhi for the year 1983-84. As a result about two thousand workers of this jndustry having lost their jobs are on [Placed in Library. See No. LT 960/85] the street now for the last two years. The plight of these poor and helpleN workers could be well imaained. The closure of tbis major industry of this locality bas l2.20 brs. also naturally caused a set back to the economy of the area. [English] However, thanks to the Government of ARMS (AMENDMENT) BILL· 1985 Orissa that having realised the gravity of the situation and finding the management quite THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE adament not to rcopen the mills, they have MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI .. or late decided to natjonalise the mill. ·and MATI RAM DULARI SINHA) : On behalf accordingly have moved the Union Govern­ of Shrj S. B. Chavan, I be& to move for ment in the matter. leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Arms Act, 1959. ·Published in the Gazette of India extra­ ordinarY Pan II Seeti04l 2 daud Mil. SPSAKBR : The question is ; 16·'-1985. .:M7 Matter' Under Rule 371 MAY 26, Hi8S Matters Under ·Rule 371

I·would, therefore, urge upon the Union Today, the biggest problem is being Government particularly the Hon'ble Textile faced in sending money to their family mem· Minister to take necessary steps immediately bers. Any person who is earning somewhere on the decision as well as the recommen­ sends some money to bis family members. dations' of Orissa Government to the re­ I am sorry to say that the money sent by openins of the Bhaskar Textile Mills in money-order not only reaches after a delay, view of the commercial importance, urgency but it involves more expenditure also. and human consideration involved in it. Therefore, the poor peopJe sent their money by' insured covers, but recently, it has (II) Need to Improve Irrigation Facili­ become unsafe because it has become a ties In Draught Affected Districts common practice that the seals are tampered of Andhr. Pradesh aod Karnataka with and money is taken out.

SHRI K.· RAMCHANDRA REDDY 1, therefore, draw the attention of the (Hindupur) : The districts of Anantapur Minister of communications towards this and Chittoor in Andhra Pradesh and Kolar, and den1and that he should take stern action Cbitradurga and Tumkur in Karnataka to check ·it so that the faith of the people State are chronically drought-affected areas. in the post offices is restored. Irrigation facilities in these five districts are very meagre. Famines have ravaged these (iv) Need to protect the City of areas time and again and the misery and Bangalore from Pollution sufferings of the poor is beyond hun'lan SHRI S. M. GURADDI (Bijapur)*· : endurance. Bangalore is a city of gardens besides being To save the people from the sever.e a paradise on earth for those wanting to onslaught of famine it is very essential that enjoy the union with nature. Once there irrigation facjlities are improved. These was a move to hold one session of the areas are situated on a very high altitude Parliament in this city. Here rain soaked and it is not easy to improve the irrigation breeze' blows throughout the summer and potential. the citizens of this city can enjoy warm sun throughout the winter. You are awakened River Netrevathi in western ghats of to the piping notes of whistling thrush and Karnalaka has got about 500 T.M.C. of open your window to a casement of dew­ water which is going into the Arabian Sea washed tre~s in flowers. African tulips, wastefully. This water can be diverted to Bengonias, all in full glory amid weird­ upper Bhadra to irrigate the above five happed arucaris. All day long koels and districts. This is a costly venture. The barbots call from dense green foliage and Government of India, the Governments of the evenings are fragrant with jasmine and Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka can execute maussam. the project jointly and the Central Govern­ ment may be pleased to order an investi­ But the beauty of Bangalore is being gation into the feasibility of using the eroded. Steadily growing population, un­ water of River Netravathi to improve the planned constructions and the accumulation irrigation in the above districts. of industries' are spoiling the beauty of the city. Areas like Krishnarajapuram, Yesh­ [Translation} wantapuram are smoky and the city is losing its identity. Some other features which are (ill) Need to take Stringent steps to spoiling the beauty of the city area : ED~ure., Safe Delivery of Money sent By IDlured COVd"S through (1) There are ~ dozen B. Ed coHea-est Post Office. . TI ese are not spread over the city.

DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRJI)ATHI (2) Vidhana Soudha., CubOOn Park and (Khalilabad) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, Maharani's co)Jege cannot co-exist on the now-a-days. the people .. culc down where­ ugly out skirts of Central Jail. Central Jail ever they are able to tind a source of liveli­ could have been outside the heart of the hood. but the menlbers of their familjes city. 10 on living at their earlier residential p1aces. They keep contact with one another ··The speech was oriainaJly delivered throush letters, etc. in Kannada. 249 Malters Under Rule 311 VAISAl(~A 26, 1901 (SAKA) Matters Under Rule 3" 2St)

(3) Gandhinagar is a film colony. [Translation]

(4) Kampa Gowda Road which bas been ('i) Need to Provide Air Serlice named after the founder of the city is between Varao8si aDd Bombay studded with cinema theatres~ which spoil via Nagpur the climate. SHRI UMA KANT MISHRA (Mirzapur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Varanasi is an (5) The conducive climate- of Bangalore important city and it is the cultural capital is being eroded by the vice-den atmosphere of the country. People from different States of race course in the heart of the ci ty . of the country visit Kashi off and on. Kashi is a great centre of pilgrimage. Forei8D I request the Hon. Minister of Envi­ tourists also visit the city in large members ronment to protect the city from pollution but so far it has not been linked by air and to maintain the beauty of pensioner's with Bomba)'.. Also, the. tourists have to paradise. em plane from Delhi to visit important places of South India. lEng/bih] I request the Civil Aviation Minister to introduce an air service from Varanasi to (v) Need to Introduce an Expressrain Bombay via Nagpur. With this service from Tumkur to Bangalore Hyderabad, Tirupafi, Trivandrum, Bangaiore. Madras, etc., would also be linked directly SHRI G. S. BASAVARAJ.(Tumkur): with Varanasi via Nagpur. There are suffi­ Tumkur is a district headquarter and a cient number of people who want to travel prominent educational centre. There are from Bombay to Va-ranasi and back and also three engineering colleges, three B. Ed to the important places of South India. colleges and many other educational insti­ People have also been demanding that tutions. The Holy Siddaganga Centre is Bombay should be linked with Varanasi situated here catering to the educational via Nagpur by air. needs of thousands of persons coming from all over the country. It is hoped that the Civil Aviation Minister wilJ immediately accept this Tumkur is one of the major commercial demand. business centres in Karnataka. Coconut, arlicanut, sapota etc. are grown abundan­ tly and some of them are exported. Tumkur (vii) Need to take Action Against is also ao important industrial centre. H~T tbe 'Daiulk Jagrao t for Publishing factory and many other medium and small a news item tending to create industries are situated here. About 3000 U orest and Instability in the persons travel by train from here to Banga­ Country lore daily. Among them a bout ISOO are Government employees. In addition to this, SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATUR· businessmen and students also travel by VEOI (Kanpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, train daily. But unfortunately, there are a news 'After Rajiv, Who' has been pub­ only two shuttles of four bogies from lished on page 10 of the daily jagran Tumkur to BangaJore. This is not at all dated the 10th May 1985, of Kanpur has sufficient to the &rowing demand of passen ... caused resentment not only in North India Icra. These shuttles take three hours to but among the people of South India also reach Bangaiore which is only 70 kms from and this news has crea ted serious concern Turnkur. Government employees have to among all the Indians. The person who spend six hours in these slow moving trains. calls himself a lanlrik and has forecast In fact. journey in these trains is a severe this. has indulged in an anti-national act. punishment to the travellers. Under these Such news ta mishes the image of the coun­ circumstances, I request the Hon. Railways try. Necessary actioD should be taken Minister to look into the matter and to against such ta"trlk who try to create an introduce an express train daily from Tumkur atmosphere of anxiety. fear and instability to Banplore immediately. in tbe country. t51 Monopolies and Rea/rictive Trade MAY 16, 1985 Monopolies and Restrie/ire Trade 252

(vIII) Need to Provide Assltan~e by "That the Bill further to amend the the Centre to the Government of Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Maharashtra for Organising Practices Act, 1969, be taken into Drought Relief and Providing consideration. " Drinking Water Facilities The time allotted is only one hour and SHR) KESHAORAO PARDHI thirty·eight minutes and I request the Hon.

(Bbandara) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sirf this Members to be brief.. Shri Jaipal Reddy may year many districts of Maharashtra have speak. been affected by drought which list includes Bhandara where the drought has been very SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub­ aeverc. The State Government have nagar) ; Sir: This Bill is before us today be .. started job-oriented works but they are not cause, as part of the Budget proposals, it sufficient. There is also the acute problem was mentioned by the Finance Minister that of drinking water and it is necessary to the ceiling under MRTP Act would be raised provide relief measures for this. It is also from Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 100 crores. The necessary that the shortage of fodder is Budget. particularly of this year has come to removed and the people are provided with be noted for many important and fundanlen .. foodgrains and employment. In the coming tal departures not only from the accepted days, the farmers will have to be given seeds national policy pursued for the last three also. In such conditions the recovery of decades and morc, but also from the perspec­ land revenue, Jand measurement tax, irrjg~­ tive that was evolved during the freedom tion tax and bank loans is being nlade. slruggle. Some farmers had taken loans frolH the Land Development Bank for digging wells The Budget is import':lnt not only for the and purchasing n1otors but they arc not fiscal proposals, but also for many inlportant getting power connections even after waiting non-tlscal proposals. And the most important for three years. With the result, that the of those non-fisca Is proposals was this: this farmers have not been able to utilise their is very signit1cant, because it indicates the wells and electric nlotors. The recovery of' direction which the new Government would the Land Develop'ment Bank loans has like to tread. The Congress (I) was at least started. The farmers are unable to repay making pretensions to\vards socialism; and these loans owing to drought. The recovery now they have given up these pretensions of all these taxes and loans should be sus­ also. This Government would do well to pended forthwith. The drought relief team remember the background or the setting of the Central Government has, during its against whi"b this Act came into being in visit, witnessed their condition. the first place. ]n the '60s., a Study Report led by Mahalanobis, and a Study Report led by Hazari observed that the growth of econo .. I request the Government of India to mic power in this country was dispropor­ assist the State Government in drought tionate, and that it was increasingly tending relief work and in solving the problem of to get concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. drink ing water. That was the reason why this legislation insti­ tuting a Commission, a standing quasi.. judicial Commission was brought forward way back in 1970. 12.34 brso' I do not want to refer to the Preamble MONOPOLIES AND RESTRIC .. of the Constitution. I do not have to refer to TIVE TRADE PRACTICES the Directive Principles of the Constitution. (AMENDMENT) BILL, 1985 Our Directive Principles of State policy refer to the need for mounting a conscious effort [&glish] to see that economic power is decentralized. Und~r Article 39 (c), the Constitution directs: MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We will now take up Item No. 10-Further consideration "that tbe operation of the economic of tbe following motion moved by Shri system does not result in the concent­ Veerendxa Patil on the 15th Ma'y J985, ra tion of wealtb and means of produc­ namel1 : tion to the common de&rimcot;U 2S3 Monopolies and Re'tfrirfive VATSA K H,c\ 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies (lnd Re ... tr/cllve 2S4 n~ ~~ Now, we will have to see whether the new ment can decide upon the merit or these amendment brought forward is in conformity companies at his own sweet will. The Sachar with this Directive Principles of the Constitu­ Committee which was appointed durin, the tion. Though the MRTP Commission has Janata period went into' the question and been in existence for the last 15 years, we pointed out that out of 246 cases under must also see whether the Commission has sections 21 and 22 of the Act finally disposed been enabled or allowed to function with a of by the Government of India between passion, so as 'to subserve this larger objec­ January 1974 and December 1976, 227 cases tive. I should say that the growth of mono­ were disposed of by the Government without polies in this country between 1971 and 1977 reference to the commission itself. was less than was seen between ] 980 and 1983. After the return of Congress (I) to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am givins power in 1980, whatever pretensions that were ] 0 minu tes to each member. So many there in the early '70s., were given up. members are complaining here. So, I cannot allow more than that. Already, you have Today, the Bill is not a sudden develop­ exha nsted eight minutes; two minutes are ment. It is a logical sequel of a series of more. There are so many complaints from so policies pursued by the Congress I during the many members that 1 am giving more time to last five years. Between 197' -1977, the top some members and less time to some ten groups in the country increased their other corporate assets by 43 per cent; between members. I do not want to hear such com­ plaints from the members again; I do not December 1980 and December 1983, the same want to have this kind of discrimination. top ten corpora te groops increased their assets by more than 100 per cent. Take, for example, the case of the Birlas Group. The SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Govern­ value of assets of Birlas Group Companies ment has been deliherately treating tbe went up from Rs. 143 t crrn'cs to Rs. 2,900 Commission with benign neglect, if not open crores; in just a period of three years, Billas contempt. Companies Group increased their assets hy As I mentioned earlier, it is a toothless more than 100 per cent. The same was the institution, it has no staff, has no infra .. case with the Tatas. The assets of Tatas it Group went up from Rs 1500 crores to over structure for monih)ring or enforcing its own Rs. 2,700 crores, during the same period of orders. The Commi~sion has no powers to three years. pass final orders even in regard to the few cases that are referred to it. This was the same case with the trend of growth in equity capital abroad, If we take 1 may now refer to the manner in which the case of 8 industrialist houses in the coun~ the Commission has. always been provin8 to try, in this area, we will find that they account be jneffective, not only in the area of preven­ for as much as 66 per cent of equity abroad. tion of growth of monopolies, but also in the Here again the Birlas Group take the cake. area of restrictive trade practices. Birlas Group Companies account for 30 per cent of the equity capital abroad. Now, you The Commission has since its inception must examine as to what are the reasons on August 6, 1970 tiJl December 3), 1982, behind this persistent phenomenon of gaJ)op­ instituted 404 inquiries only. Out of these ing growth in the corporate assets of tf'P 404 inquiries ] S3 were initiated by the groups that the MRTPC has failed to fulfil Commission on the basis of applications of the objectives for which it was cstabJili'hed or RRTA and 233 on the basis of its own set up. It is because the MRTPC has been knowledge and information. It is very interest· deliberately allowed to remain or become a ing to note that only J6 ir,quiries 'Were initia­ toothless institution and an eye-wash institu­ ted on the basis of complaints made by trade tion. The role of MRTPC is only recommen­ or consumer associations having membersbjp datory. The considered view of an expert of more than 25 per cent. I may al,o draw who was a judicial commissioner is not at all the attention of the Government to the fact bindinS on the government. SecondlYt I may that only two references were made in tbe also point' out that the Government is not last 13 years by the Government of India obUaed to refer tbe cases of all MRTPC from the viewpoint of consumers. It is shock .. companies to a commission at. all; the IO~cm- ins to note that the State Governments in this 25S M01l<'P<'lieJ and Resfrictive Trade MAY 16, 1985 Monopolies and Restrictive Trade 256 country did not make a single reference to Fundamental Rights and Directive Principles MRTP Commission in the last 13 years. The of the Constitution, what prevented tb.e Janata bil companies also are going scot-free in Party when it was in power, to remove it respect of another vital area that is, they are from the statute book? Compulsion of the also taking advantage of the special facilities situation which one may not like has to be made ava'HabJe to small sector units. Now I accepted. Necessary evil has to be accepted. will give you a few illustrative examples: What is the need of the hour? The need of the hour is 11l0re sophisticated technology Thyristors Controls Private Limited. and capital. That is why in China. the registered under the MRTP Act 1978 as part ideology has been subordinated to idiology. of the Reliance Textile group is registered But it is a strategy for development and with the NSIC for Government purchases as growth. So far as the Head of the State of a small scale unit. the Chinese Government is concerned, he has accepted norm whether the cat is black Skefco India Bearing, a company qelong­ or white jf it catches rats, it is all right. ing to the Ta ta group and which has 39 per Whatever may be the process, whether it is cent foreign equity has been registered under the capitalist process or the socialist process the MRTP Act since J 971. Its annual report of production matters little, if it gives the for the year 1981 said that the Company has production and efficiency, that has to be no licensed capacity, but it was registered accepted. That is why, multinationals from with the Maharashtra Government as a small Japan are invited in China. 'That IS why, scale unit. they have sonle sort of understanding with the United States of America for some I will also refer to another case: Hoyle's technological development, Now they are Paints belonging to Singhania Group; an getting some nuclear technology from the MRTP company since 1971 claimed in 1981 USA. What is happening in socialist that the reported licensed capacity was as per countries of the West Europe'? Sweden and return filed with the Director of Cottage and France are now laying more emphasis on Small Scale Industries, West Bengal. private sector and public sector is being handed over to private hand. The reason is The drugs and pharmaceuticals industry that they want more production. bas the maximum concentration of trans­ nationals operating as small scale units. This amendment is consequential to the policies that we have adopted in the Budget. American multi"nationa)s like the U. S. Weak India wiJI not answer the problems. Vitamins and Pharmaceuticals Corporation If India is strengthened economically, then and Elly Zelia were enlisted for Government only India will flourish internationally. purchases as small units. Even smaller countries today because of our weakness, are having hostile postures agai~st Carter Wa Hace claitned to be a small us. The reason is that they do not see scale unit. The Hon. Minister may tell the strength in us. We need more sophisticated House as to what step~, will be taken to technology and capital. If we remove all streng-then the Commission. the big industrial houses, will tl)at develop­ ment be possible? This Bill only shows that the Govern­ ment has given up its faith in the public ] n ) 972 the number of big industries sector, has given up its faith in the mixed registered, was only 81 S. Their assets economy concept, and has given up its amounted to Rs. 5,600 crores. And in 1982. commitment to the concept of capture of their assets have gone up to Rs. 21,600 rommanding heiGhts of the public ~ctor; it crores. These are the Government figures. has chosen to put all its eggs in the basket In 1972, the number of undertakings of big business. registered was 850 and in 1981-82 it bas grown to 1.270. This process is loing OD. SURI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY, But all the same, we have to take into con­ (Puri): So far as this amendment is con­ sideration the inflation and the inflationary cerned, it is ra tional. May. I know jf tbis pressures. We have to see how the prices statute i, somethinl which" IDeS asainsl the have aone up, how the inve8~nt wst bas 2S7 Monopolies and Restrictive VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies and Rtsttletive 2S8 TroM ffUM gone up. So. naturally, jf you calculate MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, tbere according to the price ind ex, Rs. 20 crores are many. will perhaps now be Rs. 50 crores or Rs. 60 crores, and the Government is amending it SHRI AMAL DATIA: Socialists have to Rs. 100 crores because unless we give disappeared. scope to the big companies which require heavy investment, tbey cannot have it. That is why the amendment is quite rational and AN HON. MEMBER: They will come my submission would be that there should after lunch. be no dispute on this. Dispute was only in SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir. this is one 1972 when the Act was introduced. At that of those suggestions which have come from time some people had objected to it ideolo­ the Budget to raise the limit for va lue of gically. But once we have accepted this assets for MRTP companies. It appears process, there should be no dispute now. from the way this MRTP was working, that it does not matter really whether the ceiling We must take into consideration the is fixed at Rs. 20 crores or RB. 100 other aspect of it also, that is, the growth of crores or Rs. 200 crores. My Hon. friend public sector. In the year 1980 .. 81, the Mr. Reddy has refe'red to the Birla group_ growth of pubHc sector was 23.6 per cent, In fact, these BirJa Group, Tata Group have whereas the growth of the MRTP houses was assets over Rs. 2,000 crores, but if they only 20.7 per cent. So this is a mixed come forward with any proposal for economy that we have adopted, not the expansion, that will automatically be complete socialist economy, and it will approved by the Government. So, raising take years to transform this economy into a the limit to Rs. 100 crores really does not complete' socialist economy. It is not that matter. I think on]y about SO or 60 the Government has deviated from its companies will now be exempt because objective of socialism, or that the Congress many top companies are already gone above Party has deviated. We stand by socialism. the ceiling of Rs. tOO crores. Socialism is not the God's gift, it is the result of the long struggle for decades, that the 13.00 hrs. Congress Party has adopted the objective of socialism from cooperative commonwealth to But how this particular Act was beinl socialistic pattern of society and then socialist worked by the Government since its inception society. Congress party embraces every in 1970? That is very curious. The sect of people, including tho richest persons Government instituted an inter-Ministerial of the society, the feudals, the working class Advisory Group. This group was constituted and the poorest of the poor. So na turaIJy, to examine these proposals coming from the we had to carryon the struggle for decades Companies who had got registered under the to achieve socialism as our goal. It is MRTP Act and this Group was to advise because of the new needs that we are the Government as to whether a particular changing the strategy of our development. proposal from an MRTP company would I fully support this amendment and I hope require further inquiry by the MRTP this House will adopt it. Commission. And as it happened, in most of the cases the group recommended that no inquiry is necessary. 90 per cent of tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cases Wfre disposed of by the Government MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY without referring the matter to the Com­ AFFAIRS (SHRI GULAM NABI AZAD): mission. So, the Commission was, 8S my Sir, I will request you to skip over the lunch H"n. friend, Mr. Reddy rilhtly said, aD eye .. hour. Whosoever wanted to take lunch they wash. The Commission ",as there for people have aJready gone. outside India to see or for people who have lOme belief and faith in socialism and who MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I think you think tba t the Congress is in someway or are foregoing the lunch hour. Therefore, o,ther implementinl some of tbe ideals of now I request Shri Amal Datta to speak. socialism -like preventina concentration or part of concentration of economic power. SHR.I AMAL DAlTA ~Diarnond So. just to· Jive tbern some eye .. wash, thi. Harbour) : Nobody rrom Conaress. Commission hal been there. It bas Dot doDo 2S9 Monopolies and Restrlctiv~ MAY 16, 1985 Monopolies and Restrictive 260 Trade Trade (Shrl Amal Datta) to work, there is DO need at aU to increase all), substantial work during tbe period of the limit~' On the other hand the limit . 'ftftecn years of its existence, because the could have decreased. So the c;Jovernment Statute is formed in such a way that this either believes in competitins or it does riot Commission cannot work unless the Govern­ believe in it. If it believes in monopoly, , , mont wants it to. And the Government has then it is the right Bill to be introduced. not wanted it to work at all. If it believes in competition and socialism it should have reduced the limit. But the Now. the Commission itself in one of Government in its wisdom has brought its annual reports suggested that this parti .. forward this Bill and as I said to start with cular way of functioning of the Government that it does not appear to matter very much . 'so far as the Commission is concerned is so far as the functioning of the big mono .. very irksome. It felt quite helpless that the poly houses are concerned, whether this Government was not referring the cases to it. statutory limit is increased or not because It said that certain guidelines should be they were already much much above it. Some formulated for the Government as to which examples have been given already by various type of cases should be and must be referred speakers as to how in spite of this BiU to the Commission and which not. As yet being on the Statute Book, the concentration the Government have not Cormulated any of economic power has grown during the such guidelines. If guidelines are formulated, last fifteen years. From Rs. '250 crores some the Government's discretion goes. So, why companies have grown up to Rs. 2,500 crores. ,should it formulate any guidelines. All kind a ten times increase in fifteen years. That of stretegem has been practised by the kind of thing has happened. We know Government to see that the Commission which are the companies and probably there cannot discharge its function, which the law are 101 companies which were over Rs. 20 aives to it. Its function from the very crore limit out of which 61 companies will beginning has been only advisory and there not be benefited because they are already bas been nothing mandatory in the commis­ above the Rs. 100 crore limit which is sion's recommendations. There have been being set. But the benefit is already there cases where even after referring the matter because the Government is their own to the Commission, the Government rejected Governn1ent. They know whenever they its recommendations. come to the Government with a new proposal for expansion on one ground So. this Rs. 20 crore limit whkh is now or the other, the Government will allow being raised as it is stated in the objects them and the GoveraOlcnt will not give any clause because of inflation that the costs have ground also. So, any type of expansion is gone up. The Statement of Objects and being allowed. Reasons says: c'Having regard to the considerable increase in the cost and the economic Already there is substantial dilution in size of projects that has taken place the dominance concept and even the asset since then, it is proposed to revise this concept because of the 2S per cent increase limit of Rs. 100 crores!' on the value of the production was allowed over their licensed capacity. Moreover, Now, at the beginnina when the Hon. nothing is done to see that the assets are Minister introduced this Bill he sa id that the revalued. If there have been increasing costs, oriainal figure of Rs. 20 erores wns a they do not only affect the future invest­ tentative figure. Now. J have gone through ments. They also affect the valuation of the debate of the period wben this original the present ac;sets. Now, a company whose Act was enacted and I find t.hat at that time book value of the present asset is Rs. 20 there was no such proposal· that the t~ntatjve crores is shown as Rs. 20 to Rs. 2S crores limit could be raised by 'the Goverrment. or something like that. If it is revalued at In fact, I wou1d say that havjng regard to loday's prices, it will be more than Rs. )00 the fact that the economy has become very crores. So, wh~ t the Government is doing in 'bil aAd having regard '" the fact that there this r('gard? Let tbe Hon. Minister reply on are lot of ehmPanles whitfl 'are worki'ng;tith tbat.. If it is revalued then instead of 5 I ·'their calJi.a1 of fnuch' more :than Rs. 20 companies which should now be affect~d or crores .net. the Oovornm~t' is aliowiD8 them otberwise whose value should be over ; '''''' l . """ ... ,. " ' 261 Monopolies and Re~tricl;ve VAtSAKHA 26, 190; (SAKA) Monopolies and Re/Jtr;clive ~6~ T~M »~ Rs. 100 crores, there may have been more necessary. It is just to pamper some peopJ.e than 200 or 300 companies and I am sure and just to keep some people quiet that tbe the Government is not going to do that. Government has brought this legislation. Otherwise whatever it wants to do it could have done and it has been doing. Not only Another aspect of the Budget proposal that it could have done and it was doina was that the Government would penalise already by not referring the cases to the· those managements who have ruined the Monopolies Commission, disposing of cases company by making the net worth of the on its own but it is continuing to allow company zero or negative. I should have various lacunae and loopholes in the system thought that that was a more urgent neces­ to give total exemption to various companies sity because here the Government had working in different fields. These lacunae discretion to allow expansion, allow further they are using liberaHy. So, this is one increases in equity and all that kind of or those proposals, I would say, by which the things. But on Ihe other hand we find that Government on the one hand while pro­ the Government have no power at all so fessing socialism to the rest of the world. in far as the reduction of, net worth of a India they want to curry favour with the company is concerned. We know how many capitalists because tbat is their source of companies are going sick every day. Now. funds. I think, today, we have received a there are 22,000 sick companies according to BiIJ for legalising the political contributions. the answer given in Parliament itself. If it So, all these are knitted together and these is so, it would be more urgent for the people have to be liven the favour so that Government to say that the- managements they may make contributions to the funds of whicll are rUining the company after the ruling party. So, this is also one point company, they are not allowed access to where the Budget proposals are falling in public funds through the public financial lint! with the Government's real conduct, i.e. institutions. But the Government does not it is the supporter of capitalism and the care to bring forward a Bill to give effect to supporter of monopolists. that proposal. On the other hand it has to pamper the monopolists. So, it has brought forward this Bill within this Session. To the outside world, it will show a different picture that it is for socialism and The concentra tion of economic power. Non-Alignment and things like that. But in has been noticed for a very long time. Even actual pratice, it is conducting itself in a before this Act had been enacted, there had very different way inside the coun try. So far been four committees which had gone into as seeking technological coJlaboration to this. Maha1anobis Committee submitted its import foreign technology and trade alreo­ report in 1960. Then there was Hazar ments are concerned, they are going more Committee. After that there was the and more towards the cam p of the Monopolies Inquiry Committee and then the imperialists and I think that is the present Datta Committee. All these Committees policy of the Government. We do criticise have noticed two things that there was con­ it but the present Government, as it is centration of economic power and increasing constituted, will continue to 80 in tbis disparity. One of the reasons was that the fashion. licencing system of the Government was working in such a way as to encourage this SHRI INDRAJlT GUPTA (Basirhat): increase in concentration of economic power. Sir, tbe reason siven by tbe Government (or I would like to know what the Government bringing forward this amending Bill, as tbe has done during the last 1 S years to see statement of objects and reasons says very that the licensing system does not work in briefly, is that it is proposed to revise tbe that fashion. On the other hand I think the limit of as\ets to Rs. 100 crores. havinl licensing system has gone on working in this regard to the considerable increase in tbe inequitable fashion only. Otherwise how can cost and the economic size of projects tbat some companies get their aSsets increased? has taken place. But, Sir, I would like to Book value of their assets have increased, take th,is opportuni ty to remind tbe Hoo. not the market value, by, ten times in the Minister that this has notbiol to do with Jast fifteen years. So, if that' has already the original aims of the MRTP Act itselr. hsppeoed. then this further dilution was Dot The MIlTP Act was Dot broupt for this 263 MonopoJiel and Re,triel ive MAY 16, 1985 Monopol!es and R~slr ictlve 264 Trade Trade (Sbri Indrajit Gupta] further concentration in the hands of a few reason at all. It was one of the several companies should be prevented and their mea,ures adopted in 1969 by the Government share in the market should also be gradually at that time led by Prime Minister. Shrimati reduced. I would like to know from bim Indira Gandhi. Well, I will give the benefit how far in these 15 years or 10 years tha t of doubt to the Government. But they were we have been working this Act and the definitely at that time trying to project an MRTP Commission has been functioning, image of a Government which was keen on we have been going in that direction or bringing some radical reforms including the whether we have been going in the oppo­ nationalisation of the banking industry, site direction. The official figures prove that abolition of privy purses and all those the assets of these companies have been meailures which were taken at that time, growing at a terrific pace; they have been durina that period. One of them was the growing at an aVt:rage growth ra,te of some­ leaislation of the MR TP Act. thing like 26 per cent per annunl. If you take the top 25 houses-A.C.C., Ashok Now, this MRTP Act bas a genesis. Its Leyland, Bajaj, Bangur, Birla, Chowgule, genesis is not anything to do with the size of Dunlop, Hindustan Lever, Indian Tobacco the undertaking being conducive or not con­ Company, leI, J.K. Singhania, Kirloskar, ducive to growth. The basic genesis of the Khatu, Larsen and Toubro, Mafatlal, MRTP Act was the Directive Principles of Mahindra & Mahindra, Modi, Reliance State Policy which are enshrined in the Con .. Textiles, Sarabhai, Shri Ram, Tata, TVS, stitution of India. If you look into the aims Thapar, United Breweries, Walchand, and and objects of the original MRTP Bill, 1969, so on and so forth,-the rate of growth of you will find that they are clauses (b) and their assets has been phenomenal, the rate (c) of article 39 of the Constitution of India is over 2S or 30 per cent per year. So, what which lay down that the State shall direct has the Act, and what has the MRTP Com· its policy towards two objectives: mission, been able to achieve? The whole One objective is that the ownership and process is going in the opposite direction. control of the material resources of the Now, all that this Bill seeks to do is, out of community are so distributed as best to the 101 companies which came within the subserve the common good; Second objective previous limit of assets of Rs. 20 crores or" is that the operation of the economic system more, about 49 companies are going straight does not result in the concentration of out and 52 companies remain within the wealth and means of production to the scope of the MRTP -Act. So, tbose that are common detriment. 1 have quoted from the remaining will remain because they are the Constitution. So. this is the genesis of the real giants; their assets . have nothing even whole scheme of the MRTP Act. Now, remotely relating to this limit at all : they judaing from that criterion, the Minister have got assets, huge assets; going upto must tell us what is the justiHcation now for thousands of crores of rupees. And the brinaing forward this amending Bill. What is names which 1 read out include a number the reason 7 As Mr. Amal D~tta has poin­ of companies which arc really subsidiaries ted out. 1 have got many figures but I have or branl.:hcs of foreign multi-nationals. They no time to go into all this. are there, they will remain there and they will continue to grow; there is no power Actually, this MRTP Commission has which can control them or reduce their rate proved to be a toothless tiger. It is it tiger of concentration. At least this Commission without any teeth at all. The main aim of cannot do it. This Commission, according the Act was to curb concentration, to reduce to our Sta tu te, has produce an Annual concentration and to reduce also the share Report. If you go through their latest Report in the domestic market of these big houses which we have been provided with, for the in the interest of the small scale sector, in period from 1st January to 31st December, the interest of the pub! ic sc<:tor and in the 1983, you will find that the Commission jtself interest of non-MRTP companies. There is shamfaccdly admitting that they had very are many big companies. but they do not little work to do. very IUtle tbey could do. come within the MRTP Act. But there are There is no time. Otherwise, I would 'like the small scale industries: there is the to tell you in detail. Referring to tbe year public sector. In order to encourhge them, J983, they say this-lam quoting from the • the scheme of the Government was that Commission's Report; 265 Monopolies and Restrictive VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies and Restr;ctive 266 ~~ u~ '·The Central Government has so far ment, that they have done somelbina with­ made three references to the MRTP out even seeking the approval of the Govern­ Comq'lission for inquiry into monopo­ ment and gone ahead, invested money, set listic trade practices .. " up p }ants, done everything. All this is done without taking any approval from the This is about trade practices. Government and, first of aU, the Law and Company Affairs Ministry was pleased "The said references relate to the enough to issue notice to that Company following companies •.. " saying that "If you do not take approval, then you will be considered to have violated

Who are they? Coca Cola Export Corpo­ this Act and penalties wiJJ follow. U After ration, Cadbury-Fry (India) Ltd. and Colgate that, I do not know what happened. Some Palmolive \lndia) Ltd.-all branches and mysteriou~ moves took place behind tho subsidiaries of the well known foreign multi­ curtain and after some time, we were in­ nationals. Then the story is told by the Com­ formed that "No. The Government bas now mission the sad story of how the Commis­ been convinced by the Company that in sion could not inquire into these cases: this cas~ it is not necessary to take prior because immediately the orders were given, approval and so they are permitted to go the references were challenged by those ahead." . companies through writ petition filed in the Delhi High Court, the proceedings before the Anyway~ so many things have been Commission were stayed and then these happening. And, therefore, all these questions orders were vacated. Immediately those of what are the dominant 'undertakings, what Companies went to the Supreme Court are inter-connected undertakings and what issued stay orders and asked the MRTP are considered to be groups, are there and Commission not to go ahead and the Com­ there are so many definitions given. But mission regretfully admits that the year has nowhere has the Government intervened any­ ended and they have not been able to pro­ where which would prevent the further ceed at all with their enquiry. This is an strengthening and consolidation of all these example. That is why I am referring to the groups and inter-connected undertakings and Commission as a toothless tiger. It is not in dominant undertakings. a position to do anything. So I agree with tho..se friends who have Under Sections 21, 22 and 23 of the Act. said here that the policy of the Government prior approval of the Government is required is to strengthen these monopolies and now in case of expansion. They cannot expand what will happen that those cO.Q1panies without taking the prior approval of the which are left out because they have not Government. In the case of setting up of reached the Rs. 100 crore asset? They arc new undertakings, they have to take prior big companies but they have got less assets approval of the Government. In the case than Rs. 100 crOTes and they will not come of mergers, amalgamations or take- overs, under the MRTP Act. They are now free they have to take the approval of the to do anything they like with even the fak.e Government. sham show of restriclions that they cannot go into certain sectors, they cannot 80 into I suggest that this terrific rate of growth low priority sectors, they can only invest in of concentration in assets which has taken what is known as the core sector or high place amoDg the big houses proves without technology sector and they cannot invest in any doubt that in all such cases of expansion what is called the non-Appendix-} industrjes. setting up of new undertakings and the All these companies ar~ now liberated from question of mergers and amalgamations, the that, obviously because they are no 10Daer to Government has been givina them blanket be counted as monopolies. They may Dot permission and approva). In some cases they have Rs. 100 crores assets. They may have did it without approval. There is the ques­ Rs. 75 or SO or 60 crores. They wil1 no tion of the Hindustan Lever Company. I longer be considered as monopolies under think the Hon. Minister is aware that recent­ the Act. All restrictions on them are remo­ ly several representations. were made several ved. They are free to go anywhere tbey like, times to several Ministrioa of this Govern- to invest as tbey like, to diversify, to cx~and 261 Monopolies and Restrictive MAY 16, 1985 Monopolies and Restrictl,e 268 .. ,Trade .,11011 Tn:ule (Shri lodrajit Gupta] been like that. It bas not been Jiven any as they like. There is no restriction on them powers or teeth and the net result has been whatsoever. After a time, they will also that these houses have been' growioa at a come up to Rs.)'OO crares perhaps t Now .terrific pace. The concentration of wealth' because the limit has been raised; they win Instead of being reduced as the Directive be clever enough to stay just a little short Principles of the Constitution enjoin upon us of Its. lOO crores, so that they can enjoy aU to do, is increasing. The Bill has been these facilities which are open to them .. brought at a time when concentration is in­ creasing and is not being reduced, when the rate of concentration has gone up and is not This report of the Commission has also being reduced. Therefore, a large number of painted a picture of tbe restrictive and mo­ economists and other knowledgeable people nopolistic trade practices. I cannot go into in this country have remark.ed on the fact the details of the question of re-sale price that this is a part of the whole Budget maintenance. So many things were brought philosophy of the Government, n,amely, that to their notice of collusive price tendering. instead of working for reducing the inequali­ So many of these companies got together ties in wealth, what is actually going to and they make a mutual arrangement so that happen that inequalities are going to the price which they quote, the tendering is be increased. Income is generated. Production price, is the same and sometimes they takes place Wealth is generated in the boycott the goods, they arrange for a boycott of the goods of other Companies which are country. But if the system of ownership is such that concentration of that economic not allowed to come on the nlarket. Then wealth goes the there is the predatary pricing and tie-up. on on basis of that generated Then they have arrangements with the selling income, then the ineqaalities will not get less, agents and marketing agents. All these have the inequalities will get more. And what are got restrictive practices which come within the social implications and political impli­ the purview of the MRTP Commission and cations of that for the whole country? There­ which they are supposed to investigate and fore, we oppose this Bi1l because this Bill is they are supposed to control. Now what we ment only to help some comranies which were within the MRTP Act to get their have got before us -- finally I would say - is freed 0111 now to go wherever they like and simply the question of raising the limit of the assets which means that at the moment do whatever they .like whereas the Govern­ 49 companies will be liberated free even meant has not come forward with any new formally from all the restrictions which were proposal as to how they propose to deal with bigger companies which have been concentra­ supposed to be there on the monopolies. They are no longer to be counted as mono­ ting their wealth at rate of over 25 per cent polies. They are free to do what they like per annum. So the whole thing is a sham. I and ,0 wherever they like. As far as others do not see wha t is there in the Bill which which are above the Rs. 100 crores limit , will benefit the country or the economy. we have been hearing even today in this House even in things like production how THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS the Birlas and other concerns are behaving. AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY Here the Ministers are saying that they are AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI not able to do anything. This Minister is VEERENDRA PATIL): Very few members also concerned and he knows the question participated in the debate. So far as the of Delhi Cloth Mills and the Birla Textile Hon. Members on the other side are concer" Mil" aDd what is happening. They are all ned) the discussion went on expected lines. figurin. here in the tup 25 people-all these 1 never expected that they would -welcome people, the Sri Ram Group, tbe Birla group. this measure. they are all here. Even in small matters like closinl down their factories. declaring closure or sackifll thousand~ of workers, which we Ever since the Budget was presented in are hearina here everyday during the pro­ this House. tbe Hon. Members, particularly ceedinp, the Government are completely from the Oppositioo side, are takins every helpless and they are not able to do anything. opportunity to brand the ruUns party and They say that they have lot no powers to do ,the I€)"ernment as reactiona ry and anti­ anytbioa. The M.&TP Commission bas also ~ialist ••• 269. Monopolies and Restrictive VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies and Re.r/rictles 270 ~~ - , ~~ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Pro-mono· That is a different matter. I am not critJci .. polist. sing the statement made by the Chief Mlms­ ter. I welcome it because J know tbat only SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: And is the peopJe who carry the weight know tho goinl in reverse direction, so on and so burden of the weight. Because he is carryioa forth. I personally feel that for a developing the weight; he has to solve the problems ... country, it is all right talking about ideolo­ gies but those who are in charge of adminis­ SHRI INDRAJIT. G UPTA : What is it tration, I think, have to be realists, instead that he said? of any capitalist, socialist, communist or all that their 'ism' should be pragmatism other­ SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: He weI· wise 1 do not think it is possible for any corned the private sector. party in power to deliver the goods to the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Because nation. Why I am saying this is because I Centre is refusing to invest anything. know for some-J do not want to say whether for some parties or for some indivi.­ SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: There is 110 duals, deliberately I do not want to say-the public sector for him to welcome. bread produced in a socialist country tastes better than the bread produced in a capita­ SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: The list country. I am not in agreement with number of public sector industries which aN them. According to me the hungry man is there in West Bengal you will not find in any only concerned about the bread. Where it is other part of the country. So far as Indul­ produced is not his concern. His concern is tries Ministry.is concerned there are a num­ only to fill his belly. ber of them. If I think of any public sector it is either in Howrah. Calcutta or some I must also say that by propagating and other place in West Bengal. carrying on all sorts of voicing about ideolo­ gies we cannot feed the people. I am te)ling AN HON. MEMBER: All sick com­ this because yesterday I read the paper­ panies should be nationalised. Telegraph. The Chief Minist"r of West Bengal, Shri Jyoti Basu commends private SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL: We have sector. He has attended a private sector accepted the policy of mixed economy. 1 function there. He has welcomed the private think everybody sitting in this House on this sector and while welcoming the private sector side or that side is a party to that and we the Chief Minister says: have been following that mixed policy. Sir, "The 'Chief Minister. Mr. Jyoti Basu now the question is this: When the Govern­ commended the private sector for ment is facing the problem of resource com­ investing in West Benga) at a time traints what it should do? My Hon. friend when the Centre was reluctant to fos­ Mr. Indrajit Gupta and other members on ter ind ustria) growt h. " that side feel that starting every industry, setting up of industries, developing a particu­ Naturally, being the Chief Minister belong­ lar area by setting up industries etc. is the ing to an Opposition party, I think, he would responsibility of the Government. In a mixed avail every opportunity to blame the Central economy it cannot be so. That is why tMy government if there is no development in have laid down what are the industries wbicll West Bengal. Not only the Chief Minister of are to be set up in the public sector, what West Bengal but everybody sitting there are the industries which are alone for the representing West Bengal have bJamed the private sector, what are the industries which C~ntral Government for that. But I must are alone for MRTP companies or bil bUSi­ teU the Hon. Members that out of 1S ness houses and what are the industries whiCh districts in West Bengal 13 districts are are reserved for small-scale sector. EverythiDi b.ckward districts according to the deft­ has been- defined 8 h·rady. There is DO que!'­ nition and they are declared backward dis­ tion of my explaining tbe position to'the U'iQts. Even then there is no development. Hon. Members now. Sir, now I want to'''' If there i. no development again they say the HOD. Members because they' 'Should dot Govemment of India is responsible for retar­ fee) that there is any discrimination apilDt ded fl'owth of development in West Benpl. West Bonpl.. J think ooly yesterda, tbt'·Hott~ 21J Monopolies (md Restrictive MAY 16,1985 MOltopolit~ and Restricties 272 Trade Trade [Shri Veerendta PatH] with 1 million tonne capacity. I would like Member from Bihar asked about Rohtas to know from Mr. Jaipal Reddy what ,should industries. 15,000 workers are now lying idle. be our priority. They are thrown out of employment. The whole industrial complex is closed. They SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Take both. demanded and they said, why not Govern­ ment today nationalise all those industries SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: The in that complex. And in ,my reply to the resources are not there. Calling Attention, I categorjcally said no, it is not possible. Because, we have worked SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: For the 1 out. It comes to Rs. 175 crores. The paid million tonne cement plant also, 80 per cent up capital of that complex is Rs. 6 crores. of the finance is contributed by the nationa­ And now in order to rehabilitate that comp­ lised financial institutions. lex we have to shell out Rs. 175 crores. We have to spend Rs. 175 crores over rehabili­ SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: What I tating those industries. Nobody is sure that am saying is this. I have got resources for those industries will start generating revenues one on]y. Out of these two, which should and they will get surpluses or become profit­ be given priority? He said take both. But able. What I am saying is this. There are I think after sometime he will say print more resource constraints. We don't have resources notes and whatever investment necessary may . at all. Therefore there is no such question. be made and start the industry . I find that lot of Members are asking ques­ SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: He tions : Why cannot you set up this industry does not understand the planning. in my constituency, and so oO,-as if it is responsibility the Government to start the of SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Hon'ble industries everywhere, wherever there is a Members feel that monopoly houses are It possible. we demand. is not Now have growing and their assets are growing. I want come to a stage. I think very soon Hon. to make it clear that the MRTP says very Members will have an opportunity to discuss clearly in its preamble itself. It is an act to about the Seventh Plan. When the resources provide that the operation of the economic are limited I want to ask the Han. Members system does not result in the concentration whether whatcv(!r limited resources with of economic power to the common detriment which are available we should spend thos~ for the control of monopolists, for the prohi­ creating infrastructure or on resources on bition of monopolies and Restrictive Trade setting up induslries everywhere. According Practices, for matters connected therewith. to me we have to spend all that money on It is not against the growth of the economy. ,crcatinB infrastructure. Otherwise where is the It is against the growth which is 'going to be question of setting up industries .~ detrimental.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : 80 per cent SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : That means of the investment comes from public institu­ growth in a few hands. tions.. even for private companies. I don't know whether the Industries Minister under­ SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: If the stands this. H()n. Member feels whatever growth is there is always detrimental to the societi, then it SHRI VEERENDRA PA TIL: Whether is a different matter, He is at liberty to hold it comes from financial institutions or not, that view. even tbat is taken care of, while making the SHRI lNDRAJJT GUPTA: Public sec­ plan. That is a d itTerent matter. Now what tor growth is very good. We welcome it. ,I say is that whatever amount is there it is the amount of the Government. The question SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL : Now, the is whether that amount should be spent in question is that although the MRTP Act is creating infrastructure or in setting up indus .. there since 1969, I know that the assets of tries. I will quote one instance. There are these houses are increased. But who are the two proposals before Government. One is to rna in beneficiaries ? The main lwneftciaries act up a power plant aeneratina 100 MW. are tbe top 10 or 20 bouses, not the remain­ Another proposal is to set up a cement plant ina houses. I have lot the figures and 1 can 273 Monopolies and Restrictive VAISAKHA 26. 1907 ~SAKA) Monopolies and R~$trlct/~ 274 Trade Tracie give those figures. Even for this figure of regard to the applications made by MaTP Rs. 100 crores, I have sot the information. Companies for examination. As on 31-12 .. 1983, the number of MRTP houses comes to 1321 undertakings and on SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : They will 31-12-1984, it became 1784. I do not want not go to the Commission. to quote that figure. So, out of this figure of 1321 undertakings, the total assets come to SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We want Rs. 25,962 crores and out of this amount of them to go to the Commission. Rs. 25,962 crores, if you take into consider .. ation the first J0 or 20 houses, it is more SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : How can than SO per cent and they are controlling they go to the Commission if there is no 50 per cent to 60 per cent of the total assets, provision? not the remaining. Now, even after increas­ ing the limit from Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 100 SHRI INORAJIT GUPTA: Sections 21, crores, how much of this amount of Rs. 25,962 22 and 23 are there. They do not 80 to tbe crores is going out of the MR TP ? It is just Commission. They come to you for appro­ 23 per cent. 23 per cent of these assets will val. That is what they are supposed to do under the Act, but in cases they go out of the MRTP net. That means still many only come to approval. And 77 per cent remains within the ambit of the you for in lOme cases when they come to you, you have given MRTP. Mr. Jaipal Reddy was referring to th~m blankt"t approval. You give mc any Tatas and BirJas. example when you have not given the appro­ val to them. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The Government was not referring these cases to SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Whenever the Commission. So, what can the Commis­ any expansion case is concerned. when any sion do? In 92 percent of the cases, references n~w licence is cotlcerned, any merger is con­ were not made to the Commission at all. If cerned, they have to approach the Govern­ the Hon. Min ister gives assurance that all ment or the Company Law Board for MRTP the MRTP applications will first be referred clearance. There is a procedure. There is a to the Commission and then the decision will procedure for MRTP clearance, after goiDS be taken by the Government, we will agree. through that procedure the clearance is liven. And they are going through the procedure. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Now, regarding enquiries into the monopolistic or SHRI AMAL DATTA: You are sup· restrictive trade practices by the Commi~sion, posed to refer tbe cases. I would submit that it is a judicial Commis· sion. The Commission may inquire into any SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: When there restrictive trade practices upon recelvang is a quasi-judicial Commission why do you complaints which constitute such practices not refer? and all that, upon a reference made to it by the Central Government or a State Govern­ . SHRI AMAL DATTA: You have tb' ment. power to reftr.

Further, may 1 state that no reference SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I am was made by the State Governments? Do sorry, the Hon. Members are not correct. you mean that the Central Government is What the Commission has to do under the responsible for not mak ing a reference to the Act, is to go into the unfair trade practices. Monopolies Commission? The Monopolies The Hon. Members are SURestin. tbat every Commission has got powers to take into application for MRTP clearance should be account or take cognizance of such things. referred to the Commission. For what pur­ The Government does not come into the pose, I cannot understand. The Commission picture. is not meant for that purpose.

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Tbe Hon. SHRI AMAL DATTA: I am afraid, the Minister is confusing. Under Sections 21, '22 Hon. M inistcr is not correct. He may pl.,e and 23 the MRTP cannot take notice in tbe read sections 21, 22 and 23. We think tbal area of restrictive trade practica but in the Government bas aot tbe power to rerer 275 Monopolies (md Re.~'fricllve MAY 16, t985 Monopolies and Restr;ctive 276 Trade Trade I to tbe Commission. The Government is not into consideration and work out thinBs. we referring to them. will see that it comes to Rs. 60 crores or Rs. 70 crores. We should not limit it to SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I do not that Rs. 70 crores, because next year if there want to argue further. is more inflation, we cannot go on changing ·this every year, saying: this year there is SHRl AMAL DATTA : It is meant to 5 per cent inflation; therefore, from Rs. 70 subserve the clear objectives of the compa­ crores we will go to Rs. 75 crores. Next year pies. from Rs. 75 crores we win increase jt to Rs. SO crores. That cannot be. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:. Please sit down. SHRI INDRAnT GUPTA: You are planning for the' 21st century. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: In 1969 ... .this limit of Rs. 20 crores was fixed. And SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Therefore, Hon. Members are aware of the fact that the what 1 want to submit is that we want some value of rupee in 1969 was not the same as sort of certainty. today. So, there is erosion in the value of The' other day, our Commerce Minister ,the rupee. there is inflation. And this limit announced the Import-Export Policy for two of Rs. 20 crores which was there in 1969, jf years. Why? Because there must be some you calculate nnd see it is not the same sort of certainty. This uncertainty should Rs. 20 crores today. not be there. That is why we said: instead of putting it at Rs. 60 crores or Rs. 65 Then Hon. Members might argue that it crores or Rs. 70 crores now, and changing it should not be 100 crores, why do you after two years or three year~, it is better to raise it to Rs. 100 crores? I agree that make it Rs. 100 crores now, and then wait according inflation to them even if 1 take into for a reasonable period, so that there will be considerat ion it may . come to Rs. 60 crores; some sort of certainty, and some sort of by somebody's calculation it might come to security to all the people who are going to Rs. 70 or 75 erores. Now the question is that invest, or inv~stors. That is why this Rs. 100 everybody agrees that there is inflatiun. They crores have b(.'en put. are not agreeing with this figure. Nevertheless, that is a difTerent matter. Everyhody agrees Hon. Members are arguing as if we are that this 20 crores is not the same today in doing something to favour certain parties. 19t{S. So, now the question is whether it No. They are aware of the fact that we have should he 60 or 15 That is one crores. increased the lirl1it in the case of sma)] scale quettion. sector also. Have we not increased the limit to Rs. 35 lakhs? Therefore, I must say that when we have raised it we are not raising it for one or two SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA From . years. We fixed Rs. 20 ('rorcs in 1969 and I kl R"5 I kh Rs. ..,c~_1 a lS to S.,l a s. today you arc fixing at R.~ 100 crores, and I cannot say when it is g{)ing to be revised or SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: From when it is going to be Rs. 150 crnres or even Rs. 25 lakhs to Rs. 35 Jakhs, and then we more than that. I ,annul say anything. have gone upto Rs. 45 lakhs in the case of Because, when we arc legislating we ar\! not ancillary industrit!s. You must understand it. legislating for a year or for a term. I do not There wa~ a time, about 10 or 12 years back, know abuut the next regime, and what they when the small scale industry was only upto are going to do with this; whether they are Rs. 5 Jakhs. To-day, from Rs. 5 lakhs, it going to continue with R~. 100 crore~. or has gone upto Rs. 45 lakhs. You can argue 'they will increase it to Rs. 150 crores, or that it should n0t be Rs. ) 00 cro .. es~ it should reduce it to Rs. 50 crorcs·,,·-( cannot sayany­ be Rs. 80 cr()re~. or Rs. 70 CTores. There~ I thing. I cannot commit the future Govern­ agree that we will have an honest difference m~nt. But what 1 Say is that we 'want that of opinion. But what I want to say is : there should be some sort of certainty; uncer­ "Don't give an impression or a picture that tainty should not be there. That is why we we are beot upon helpina a particular say that even to-day if we tak.e the inflation seCtion." That is not so. 277 Monopolies and Restrictive VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies a,uJ Restrictive 278 ~a. T~M

SHRI AMAL DATTA = What about accept the obligation of 7S per cent export. proper evaluation of the assets? You are MRTP houses are allowed to go to backward taking the book value of the assets, and that areas and in no-industry areas, in non-appeo" is not the same as the market value.' You djx also provided they accept 30 per cent should take the proper market value at the export obligation and in no-industry distticls same time. Actually. when you are allowing provided they accept 50 per cent export Rs. 100 crores, you are reaIJy allowing obligation. Rs. 1,000 crores. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: You revised SHRI VEEREN,DRA PATIL: There is your industrial policy recently. another object behind it. But 1 nlust admit that Hon. Members may not be convinced if (Interruptions) I advance this argument. To-day what is happening? By this method, we are helping SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: 1 BIn only the top 10 to 20 Inonopolists. I think teHing you authoritatjvely. Now, why I am that if you analyze it, you will be convinced telling you. why I want to tell you that we about it. You take a party which has Rs. 25 are relaxing this, why we are asking them to crores. T()~day, he is an MRTP house. I go to backward areas, why we are teHing want to know whether a house having Rs. 25 them that we are prepared to give crores' assets is in a position to compete concessions, you please go, it is because with lira house having Rs. ] ,500 crores. To­ today the position 'is that smaIl scale day, they are on par. They are not treated industrialists are not in a position to invest differently. They arc at par, 'because aU more and MRTP houses are not allowed to MRTP houses' means all MRTP houses, invest and start the activities? Then who is irrespective of the assets that they are owning to do this? over and above those 20. SBRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: What is the guarantee that these people will oblige you '? SHRI AMAL DATTA: How is this increased ct!iling going to help them in their SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Whether competitiveness '? they oblige or not, we are not identifying what thesc people arc, who are these people; SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL : It is only we do not know who are these people. What helping those 20 pClJple. To-day, they arc 1 am saying is that we are providing all the enjoying the monopoly. We want to break facilities, but if peopJe are not coming for­ that monopoly. We want to create competi­ ward to invest, what to do '! Now, we block tors. That is why we think of helping these MRTP or totally we say that no more MRTP people, to get out of the MRTP. activities in our country at all, whatever they have, let them continue, we do not allow What is happening? Although the MRTP them to have any more activity, by stroke, of Act is there, the provisions are there-are pen, we can issue order, but do you want you not allowing the MRTP houses in non­ that no activity should go on '! Append ix I areas also ? SHRI AMAL DATTA: So that MRTP SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: We are not people can get into business. supposed to. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Unfortu­ SHRI VEERENDRA" PATJL: We are nately, altbough we trjed our best to block allowing in certain areas. the MRTP companies, we could not bl«k because others did prefer to come forward SHRI INDRAJlT GUPTA: Entry into and invest. Therefore, we say, all ri&ht. if non-Appendix 1 industries is banned for the you want to go to backward areas, we give monopolies. How are you allowing them '! tfiis relaxation. Why did we give relaxation ? It is only out of compulsion (/nterruplionJ) SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : I tell you: All right. we block M R TP companies. but with your knowledge it is going on. If the non -MRTP companies shf)uld come aDd MRTP houses want to enter small scale , start industries; they are not cominl. If they industries, tbey can do so, provided they are nol cominl, what is the leaned,. ? :179 Monopolies and Restrictive MAY 16, 1985 Monopolies and Restrictive 280 7rade Trade SHill INDRAJIT GUPTA Those go out of the MRTP net, then they are at ,people who want to cotne but cannot come liberity to do whatever they want. No. because of Jack of resources. why don't you 'help them'1 These people are not suffering SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Obviously! trom lack of resources. 15.00 hrs. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : The Hon. Membe,r is aware of the fact that nearly 70 SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: No. They per cent to 75 per cent of the investment have got only two concessions. MRTP that is required for setting up industries companies have got two stages of procedure comes from the financial institutions. to be foHowed for getting licence or getting approval for expansion or merger or suppor­ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Are you ting an industry. The first stage is making loina to stop that 1 a regular application for Jetter of intent and converting it into licence. That is one proce­ SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: No, no, dure:. After getting that. they have to approach we are not stopping that. Despite that nobody for MRTP clearance separately. So, in these is coming fOlward, what to do ? cases, where Rs. 100 crores limit is given, they havc only one stage to follow and not SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: These 49 the other one. That is the advantage. That companies which are now being taken out of is all. If the Hon. Members are under the MRTP and you are hoping that they will go impression that this Act is not going to be to back ward areas, and they wi 11 do a 11 sorts applicabJe to then1 at a11, it is not so. All of things. the other provisions of this Act are equally applicable, irrespective of their assets. If they SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: In back­ indulge in corrupt practices, this Act is appli­ ward areas. MR IP companies are allowed to cahle to thcnl. If any complaint is received go there; they are at liberity to go to those against the company, even where its' asset backward areas. may be below Rs. 100 crores, the matter SHRI INDRAJJT GUPTA: Thcn what would be referred to the Commission, the are you expecting from these liberated people Commission would go into the matter and now? inquire into it and punish the company, if they are found guilty. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: What I expect from th~se people who are going out Now, there are only two advantages. of the net of MRTP is that the Hon. members One is that after getting the licence, they are aware of the fact that we have announ­ need not again approach for MRTP clearance. ~d tbat 25 industries as de-licensed indus­ That is one advantage. The second advan­ tries; those de-licensed industries are not tage is, so far as the 25 industries, which are meant for MRTP companies and small scale de-licenced are concerned, in order to get industries have not got resources to go into into those industies, they need not approach those industries. either for MRTP clearance or for any indu­ 8HRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: So, some strial licence. So, these are the only two faci­ MRTP companies are being liberated. lities that are made available to them. I Sincerely make an appeal to you. Today, if those monopoly ·houses with Rs. 25 crores or SHill' VEERENDRA PATIL : What I Rs. 50 crores assets, want to start any acti­ want to ,know from you is that you do not vity, they have to get the licence and apin waot anybody to enter that ar~a.(Inll!rrUpliolls) approach the Ministry of Company Affairs 1 cannot answer this argument. (/nt!rrllptiolls} for MRTP Clearance. The procedure is, as SAR.I AMAL DATTA: Your suggestions soon as they apply for MRTP clearance, it are very 10od, but some people who do not has to be notified and it has to be published follow them are now creating c.iistrbancos. for inviting objection. And I must say bere that the first ten or twenty big business SHRI VBERENDRA PATIL : What houses do object and they prevent tbem-to I was saY'ol is that Hon~ members are under cnter that areas. This is what is happenins. tbe impression that once these companies That is why 1 want to create competition 18t Monopolies and Restrictive' VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Monopolies and Restrictive 28i no_ ~mU for these ten or twenty' big business houses. Government financial institutions? What I have got the figures with me and I t ell you is the pol icy regarding that? as to how much assets these ten or 20 indus­ trial houses are controlling out of the 25,000 SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: The Hon. crores of rupeee. They are controlling more Menlber knows the policy so far as MRTP than 60 to 6S per cent of the total assets of companies are concerned. There are so many all these 1300 MRTP houses today. Do you restrictions on them with regard to raisin. want them to grow rurther? You do not of funds, approaching the financial institu­ want any competition for them. That is tions, ctc. MR TP companies are required to why I say that I want competition. I want raise their resource to a particular extent. people to compete with them. Now they need Whatever facilities non-MRTP companies are not go through this cumbersome procedure enjoying, these companies will also enjoy the to getting MRTP clearance after getting the same facilities. I do not have the filures. licence, and those 25 de-licenced industries But I know of MRTP companies where we which are not reserved for MRTP houses, have said that their equity should be so they cannot enter those areas. Small scale much, their debt-equity ratio should be so industries have not got the resources tl) enter much. But in the case of non-MRTP comp­ these industries. And we have to do some anies those rigid cOf)ditions are not there. thing. If you want to take the policy of 'dog That is why there is no question of giving in· the manger' I am sorry I cannot say any­ any more Concessions to them. The conces­ thing. Either you must produce, or you must sions are already there for non-MRTP allow somebody else to produce. I do not companies and rigid conditions are there agree if you say, 'either you produce or for the MRTP companies. you do not allow anybody else to produce'. Again 1 appeal to the Hon. Members That means there will not be any production that this is only to create a healthy in the country. There will not be any growth competition against tnose 10 or 20 industrial in the country, And the result of these houses, who are now monopoJising the ideologies is that the country will suffer and whole economy, thut this amending Bill the common man will suffer. That is why. has heen brought forward. When we are I want to make it very clear that we have rdising the limit at every level-·we have rais­ done it not for the benefit of the big houses, ed the limit in respect of the small scale indu­ but it is for the benefit of people with limited stries and ancilaries -similarly we thousht and reasonable resources. We want to see that we should raise the limit of these MRTP that competitors are created for these big companies from Rs. 25 crorcs to Rs. 100 business houses, because only through compe­ crores. It is not that we arc going away tition, we can achieve elliciency, we can from the socialist path; we arc becoming rea­ acbeive growth and only through competition ctionary~we are treading the path of capitalism every investor and every industrialist would and an that. There is nothing like that. There feel that he can survive. Only when there is is no question of nlaking any departure from competition, he can survive and only when the established policy and the procedure. It there is comptition, w~ will be able to achieve is only to see that Jarger interest is served. efficiency. That is tbe purpose of this Act. there is proper economic growth in tbe country and there should not be conceutTation SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: That is all of economic growth in the hands of, top 10 right. We have understood your argument, or 20 people. With this object I have brousht whether we agree or not. You want that these forward this piece of legislation. J hope, tbe companies which are goilllJ out of the MR TP Hon. Members might have been convinced DOW, are to be relieved of some of tbose with my arguments and tbey will lupport complex procedures and so 00, to belp incre~ this Bill. ease production. But are you also adop .. ting any new policy regarding your financial MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; The questIOn assistance to them from your institutions? is : Is that going to be further· liberalised or is "That the Bill further to amend the it goina to be very strioaent for these comp­ Monopolies anies with Rs. 50 crore or Rs. 75 crore and Restrictive Trade assets ? Is there any way of enforcing tbem Practices Act, 1969, be taken into consideration . ., to become 'more self-reliant in getting resour­ ces, or are you loing to feed tbem from your The motion was «lop/Iii. 283 A.ndhra Pradesh Legislative MAY 16, 1985 Andhra Pradesh Legis/ative 284 Council Bill Council Bill MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Now, we MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The" house take up cluase by clause consideration. The will now takc up ,c!ause by clause consider­ question is : ation of the Bill. The question is : "'That Clause 2 stand of part the Bill. "The Clauses 2 to 9 stand part of the The motion was adopted. Bill. "

Clause 2 was added to the Bill. The motion was adopted Clause 1 tbe Enacting Formula and the Clauses 2 to 9 were added to the Bill. Title were added to the Bill. Cluases 1 The Enacting Formula SHill VEERENDRA PATIL : I beg to and the Title were added move to the Bill

"That the Bill be passed." MR. DEPUTY ·SPEAKER : The Mini­ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question ster may now move that the BilJ be passed. is : SHRI H. R. BHARADWAJ : Sir, I beg "That t~e Bill be passed." to tnove :

The motion was adopted. "That the Bill be passed." SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adilabad One second, Sir. On this occasion I would 14-08 hrs. like to express my happiness and the gratitude at the way the Government has acted and ANDHRA PRADESH LEGISLATIVE accepted the wishes of the Government of COUNCIL (ABOLITION) BILL Andhra Pradesh. 1 am . in support of this Bill and I support it. [English] SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kurnool) : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sir, through this BjIJ, Shri Bharadwaj Ji has MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE opened the darwil7a that was closed for the (SHRI H. R. BHARADWAJ): 1 beg to people of Andhra Pradesh, and he has further move: secured the constructive cooperation of the Union with the States. We thank him for this "That the Bill to provide for the and we also thank the Prime Minister for the Legislative Council abolition of responding to the wjshes of the people of of the State of Andhra Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh and for respecting the Reso­ for matters supplemental, incidental lution passed by tbe Andhra Pradesh Legist­ and consequential thereto, be taken ati'Ye Assembly. into consideration." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: shd Jaipal MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: How much Reddy. Three Reddys want to speak. time shall we fix ? SHRI S. JAIPAL READY(Mahbubnaaar) : SOME HON.' MEMBERS. No discu­ Sir t while 1 welcome the Bill, I do not find ssion. any reason for thanking anybody. I must make it very "lain because we thought no MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER.: All rigbt. discussion would take place. Now that some the question is : discussion is taking place, J must put forth my viewpoint~ I do not think that anybody "That the Bill to provide for the abo­ deserves to be thanked for the very simple lition of tbe Legislative Couacil of reason that the Legislative Assembly of the State of Andbra Pradesh and for Andbra Pradesh was forced to pass the matters IUpplementa), incidental and Resolution second time. I will merely refer COIl.sequential thereto, be taken into to one think, the Constituent AssemblY consideration. " debates. Mr. Ambedkar, while refening, to r. Il1011011 wa.f adoplt!d. this Article said very clearly : 285 Andllra Pradesh {,egislarille VA1SAKHA 26,' 1907 (SAKA) Payment 0/ BOITIls Bill 286 Council Bill ·'The provisions of this article follow "That the Bill be passed." very closely the provisions contained in the Government of India Act, The motion wal' adopted. section 60, for the creation of the Legislative Council and section 308 which provides for the abolition. The procedure adopted here for the crea­ 14.J5 hrs. tion and abolition is that the matter . is really left with the Lower Chamber, PA YMENT OF BONUS (AMENDMEN'O which by a resolution may recommend BILL, 1985 either of the two courses that it may decide upon. In order to facilitate any [E"glish] change made either in the abolition of the Second Chamber or in the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, we creation of a Second Chamber, provi­ shaH take up Item No. 12 - Payment or sion is made that such a law shaH not Bonus (Amendment) Bill. Shri Ghulam be deemed to be an amendment of the Nabi Azad may move the Bill for considera­ Constitution, in order to obviate the tion on behalf of Mr. Anjiah. difficult procedure which has been provided in the Draft Constitution for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the amendment of the Constitution." MiNISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): Sir, on behalf of Shri Anjiah. I beg to Mr. Ambedkar. while moving the Bill move: for the reI event article, said that the discre­ tion was left completely to the Assembly "Tha t the Bill further to amend the of the State concerned. The Government of Payment of Bonus Act, 1965, as passed India was quite grudging in considering it. by the Rajya Sabha, be taken into It is obvious. 1 am at least bappy that consideration. " wiser counsels, though belated, prevailed upon the Government. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I am on a point of order. The convention is that when the Bill is to be moved, it must be SHRI H. R. BHARADWAJ With moved by the concerned Minister and the your kind permission, Sir, 1 would like to concerned Minister is not here now. So, he reciprocate the feeling and put the record is not going to listen to the speeches made straight. You will kindly appreciate that new in the House. Then how is he going to reply? norms of democratic behaviour have been It is too much. set in as this Government has taken over, and you will find that when we implement (Interrupt ;on") the Resolution of the Andhra Pradesh MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Minis­ Assembly, we are doing something which is ter is held up on an urgent business. highly democl'a tic. And in doing so, I am Meanwhile, the other Minister is going to also grateful to the leaders of the opposition note whatever the points that are being rai­ who have said that they will not like to sed by Members. speak on this. As you know, Sir; our party had majority in the Council and we had lot SHRI s. JA1PAL REDDY: I have no of opposition from our own people. But. as doubt about the capacity of Mr. Anjiah. I said. if democracy has to thrive, institutions have to be nurtured, we will have to make MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The Minis.. sacrifices. (am happy that with this spirit, ter is Joing to note the points. There is no Mr Jaipal Reddy wilt take it. There is problem. absolutely no other spirit except that. To up­ hold the highest traditions of democracy in Motion moved : this country, we will cooperate in future also. 4'That this Bill further to amend the Payment of Bonus Act. 1965. U passed MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The ques­ by Rajya Sabha, be taken into conai­ .ion is ; deration.'" 287 Paymellt of Bontls Bill MAY \6, 1985 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill 288

Now, Mr. Dora nlay speak. and therefore, the omission of this particular Section is not sufficient though it gives SHRI H. A. DORA (Srikakuiam): benefi t to a smaller section of oraanised em .. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, now the Amend .. ployees. You are aware that there are a ment introduced by the Government is for number of unorganised employees in this the de1etion of Section 12 of the Bonus Act coun try. Crores of such people are there, of 1965. The only amendment that is now but the Amendment is silent about those sought to be made to this Act, viz, Bonus employees and I would have congratulated Act of 1965, is to d~)et Section 12 of the the Hon. Minister if he had brought a diffe­ Bonous Act. In other words, Section 12 of rent amendment, a positive amendment to the Payment of Bonous Act, 1965, shaH be this particular Act embracing th~ employees omitted. 1 respectfully submit to this august of all the unorganised and organised sectors House that this particular piece of amend­ in this country. Of course, the Hon. Minis­ ment is, no doubt, a progressive piece of ter, who held the post of Chief Minister of legislation but as the Hon. Minister for labour Andhra Pradesh, is well Rware and he hails contended on 9th of this month in the Rajya from labour comnlunity and he respects the Sabha that he would bring about a piece of labour community, he knows how the labour comprehensive legislation to cover all sec­ community in this country are exploited. He tions of employees in this country, I am is not al ien to that particular sect of people, only sorry that such a piece of legislatio'n as some Ministers in this august House are. bas, not been introduced in this august I would like to submit that there are certain : House, particularly in this Session, though provisions which exclude the benefit of this 'it was promised by the Hon. Minister in the particular Act and they are contained in other House on 9th of this month. Section 32 of the Bonus Act of 1965. I may be permitted to quote this Section 32 : Now the Hon. Minister for Labour has come to the House and therefore, the ohjec­ "Nothing in this Act shall apply to- tion which my learned friend raised is now (i) empiopees employed by any insurer waived, I think. Now that the Hon. Minister carrying on general insurance busi­ bas come~ 1 would like to submit that this ness and the employees employed by particular piece of legislation as also the the Life Insurance Corporation of emphasis laid on it is no doubt a progres­ sive piece of legislation, but it does not India; cover all employees in thi~ country. (ij) seamen as defined in clause (42) of section 3 of the Merchant Shipp­ 14.19 hrs. ing Act, 1958;

[SHRI SOMNATH RATH ill 'lte Cftair} (iii) employees registered or ) isted under any scheme made under the Dock Sir, the working class in this country Workers (Regulation of Employ­ obtained their share of bonus not through ment) Act, 1948, and employed by any piece of legislation, but through a hard registered or listed employers; struggle in which several persons lost their lives in this country and that the result of (iv) employees employed by an establish­ the struggle which has been there prior to ment engaged in any industry the coming into force of the Payment of carried on by or under tbe authority Bonus Act of 1965 is crystalised in this of any department of the Central form and therefore. what ( would like to Government or a State Government submit is that the omission of this particular or a local authority; Section does not accrue to the benefit of the railway empluyees in this country. You are (v) employees employed by- aware that' the railway employees who are (a) the Indian Red Cross Society working in Railways in India are innumera· or any other institution of a ble. There are lak.hs of employees who are like nature (includinl its wQrkina under this public sector undertakins brancbes)~ and who are not getting this particular . bonus. The Bonus Act is conspicuously (b) universities and other edual­ silent and it does not come to their benefi t tional institutions; 289 Payment of Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Payme"t of 80"U$ Bill 290

(c) institutions (including hospi. the payment of bonus. The limit was that the tals, chambers of commerce salary for the purpose of bonus is to be: cal­ and social welfare institutions) culated only at Rs. 750, even though the em­ established not for purposes of ployee might be getting more salary. Now, by profit; del~ting this section 12, as 1 said, we are removing this limit and now the employee (vi) employees employed through con· drawing a salary of up to Rs. t,6OO will get a tractors on building operations." bonus, actually, according to his salary with .. 1 submit that Section 32 is a bar and it out any ceiling of Rs. 750/-. This is a very really takes away the benefit of a large num­ welcome amendment that is being made in ber of employees in this country. I submit the Bonus Act. that this section 32 could have been dele­ ted and an amendment to this effect could While I say so, I would also like to point have been introduced in the House instead out to the Government that in a way it is a of section 12 of the particular Act. half-hearted measure. When we are amend­ ing this Payment of Bonus Act by deletil1l It is necessary to rec0gnise the strength section 12, we 'should have also amended of the labour force in this country. You are another section which wou1d have been a aware that 51 per cent of our population live logical amendment. below the poverty line. And this 51 per cent is working in different sectors of the establish­ Now, when the Payment of Bonus Act ments in this country. They are working in was passed, the scheme of the Act was as factories and under the contractors. You are follows. also aware that there are contractors who eng­ age a large number of labour force. But they A person getting a salary of Rs. 1600/-, are also exempted under section 32 of the was entitled to bonus. But the bonus must be Bonus Act. I, therefore, urge the Hon. Labour calculated actually only upto the salary of Minister that at least in the ensuing piece Rs. 750/-. So when we delete Section 12, in of legislation, he should bring an amend­ a way we are raising that salary limit up to ment for the deletion of this section 32 from Rs. 1600/- for calculating _the bonus. There­ the Bonus Act which would detlnitely bene­ fore, the higher limit for qualifying bonus fit a large number of labour force in this should have been also 10~Ucally raised at country. least to Rs. 3000/-. My submission, therefore. With these few words, I conclude my is tha t when we are deleting Section J2, we speech. should have at the same time amended the definition of 'employee' given in Section 2 of SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay the Act. The definition of 'employee' says, North Central): Mr. Chairman, Sir, ] rise "any person (other than an apprentice) em­ to welcome this Bill which has been brought ployee on a salary or wage not exceeding one forward by the Labour Minister. 1 welcome thousand and six hundred rupees per men­ this firstly because the amendment was scm" ••• So, the bonus is to be given to the overdue, secondly because, there was an employees who are drawing sa1ary up to Rs, announcment by the Finance Mhister in his 1600/-. My submission is that if this ceiliol Budget speech that the Government would was put in the year 1965, then it was necels" be bringing before this House such an ary to raise this ceiling in the year 1985 when amendment. By bringing this Bill, the Govern­ particularly the value of the rupee has ,ODC ment is honouring its commitment which down. Many employees will be denied bonus has been made in the Budget speech by the because they are drawing emoluments more Finance Minister. than Rs. 1600/-. So. logically this definition also shouJd have been amended at the same The Payment of Bonus Act was passed in time, so that a person drawina salary not 1965 and at that time tbis section 12 exceeding Rs. 3000/- also will be entitled to enacted wherein it was decided tbat even bonus. As I stated, the Payment of Bonus was though an employee was getting a salary Act was passed as far back as in 1965. At of Rs.l.600, he would act the bonus as if his tbat time also the deliberations took place salary was only Rs.7S0. Now, we are deleting from the year 1961. FormaJly there was a this section J2 which was putting a limit 00 formula suuested by tbe Labour Appellate 291 Payment ot Bonus Bill MAY 16, 1985 Payment of Bonus Bill 292

(Sbri Sharad Dighe] having employees between 10 to 20 should Tribunal for Bonus. It was confirmed by the also justifiably get the benefit of the bonus. Supreme· Court and the Bonus Commission Therefore, I will appeal to the Government was appointed on 6th December 1961. In that in the near future they should take a order to fix the terms of referrance of that comprehensive view of the whole Bonus Act Bonus Commission, a Tripartite Committee and bring a comprehensive Bill suggesting the was also appointed and ultimately the Report overaH amendments. The formula of bonus of that Bonus Commission was received on also reqires to be reviewed. Several provi­ '24th of Janu:ny 1964, which was placed before sions of the Act should be reviewed properly this House on 2nd September. Therefore, my and a comprehensive Bill nlay be brought submission is that these figures which were before the House as early as possible. I will fixed regarding the lower limit and higher limit again congratulate the Union Labour Mini­ for the payment of bonus were fixed as far back ster for at least making this amendment as between 1961 and 1964. Those figures are urgently in this session and I will again urge not valid now according to the price index upon him to take a comprehens ive view and tlgures and according to the value of the bring in the next session all the amendments rupee, which has also fallen down. Therefore, which arc necessary for this Bonus Act. as I have stated, the Government should have come forward regarding the amendment [TrwIs/ation) of the definition of "employee· also in this Act. Fortunately for me-I read in the SHRI. K.N. PRADJIAN (Bhopal): Sir, I newcspapers that in the Conference of Labour want to congratulate tbe Labour Minister on Ministers recently held under the Chairman­ his bringing forward the Payment of Bonus ship of the Central Labour Minister, the (Amendment) Hi 11. One of the announce­ same point has bt!enexpressed and our Union ments made for the benefit of the workers Labour Minister has also assured that the in the Budget by the Government related to Governtnent was intending to make this kind bonus. of aml!ndment also ~nd in the case of the employee, the upper limit is at Rs. l600/- is Sir, the workers have b~en struggling for proposed to be raised to RI). 3000/-. That their right since time immemorial and after assurance has been given in the Lahour this long struggle only, they have been able Ministers' Confcrenc(: as I have read in the to get thci.. rights, including the right to newespapers. ] have also learnt that in the Bonus. In the beginning, the employers consi­ Consultative Committee attached to the dered it as parting with some profit in favour Labour Ministry, lh~rc al.;o the Union Labour of the workers hut the fight continued and Minister has cxprc~sed in the sa.me way. ultimately the workers succeeded in getting it Therefore, I hope that this amendment also accepted as deferred wages. Government enac­ will he brought by the Government in the ted the payment of Bonus Act in 1965. The ncar future so that lugi~ally the whole Act amendment now brought forward of course, wi\l be properly balan~ed and proper justice will benetit some of the employees but a will be given to the employees. large sect ion of the employees will still remain deprived of this facility. Rather, it will not be My further submission is also this -that wrong to say that they will suffer a loss, even the other parts of the Act also require hecause the definition of the workers and immediate amendmt'nt. For example, the Act employee", given in sub-section 13 section 2, applies to eShlblishments in which 20 or of the payment of Bonus Act of 1965 has been Inore persons are employed. My submission is confined to those workers and employees that in the prescnt conle'\t. this figure of 20 whose pay is only upto Rs. 1600, which should have been replaced hy 10 and the Act would mean that only these persons will be should apply to all e~tablishments in which entitled to get bonuI\. 10 or mOlc persons arc employed so that more and more employees will get the bene ... One big anomaly in this amendment Bin fit becau~e a", we know, now it has been sett... is that if you count, you win find that an led that bonus is not ex ,"'ralia ('layment but employee who is presently getting a pay of if it i~ a sort of a deferred wage. Therefore, Rs. 1600. will get a bonus of Rs. 320 at the if it l$ in the form of a def\!fTed ""age, mplo­ rate of 20 per cent. 1n this way, actually be yees who are employed in establishments will set Rs. 1920 in one month whereas a ~9J Payment 0/ Bonus Bill VAlSAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Payment 0/ Bonus BIll ~94

senior employee whose pay is Rs. 1610 or Rs. of profit to the workers. I would like to point 1650 or even Rs. 1800 will become junior in out to the Hoo. Labour Minister that after pay. It is a big anomaly in the present amend­ Independence every law has helped the work­ ment Bill How many employees will be ers in gettiog more and more benefits. This benefited by itt this I shall tell you by way time also our intention was to give more of an example. When this Act was enforced bonus to tbe workers. It looks as if you either in 1965, in BHEL, Bhopal, except one or overlooked this point in the beginning or two officers neady 18000 employees were because of the conflicting views of different benefited by this, but now only 6000 emplo­ Departments or in the apprehension that yees are going to be benefited. certain D~partmenlS might have to pay morc, Government did not think on this point. 14.40 brs. Considering the rights of the workers and in the name of deferred wages, which is the [SHRI SHARAD DIG HE ill Ihe Chair) hard earned income of the workers, no Department has a right to think as to how Out of them those who get a pay of Rs. much they will have to Jose or gain . . 7S0 have not been benefited much. The emp­ loyees whose pay is between Rs.750 and Rs. 1600 only have been benefited. Earlier 1800 Sir, ill conclusion, I would like to make employees used to get bonus but now only one more appeal that the employees of the 4000 more will be added to this number. other Departments i.e, Government officials should also get the righ t to bonus. They The intention of the Bill is good but should also be given bonus. I am confident since the time when the way for the welfare that our Han. Labout Minister, who has a of the workers was paved by the Govern­ very good rapport with the labourers and ment led by the late Ja wahar Lal Nehru in who is very symathetic to the workers, will which Shri Gulzari Lal Nanda was the labour not delay it further but amend the Bonus law at the earliest to make it practical. Minister, this is the first time when the· workers instea~ of gaining something arc go­ ing to lose through the enactment of a law. In addition, there arc many other laws With this law. a large number of employees which need amendment today. In the morn­ are going to be deprived of the benefit. ing, we had been discussing Birla Mills Therefore, I submit that unless an amend­ affairs. Mr. Speaker did not give me a chance ment is made in this regard, they will remain to speak but I would like to say that cur losers. textile industry is the oldest industry of our country and even today it plays a significiant Sir, there arc other anomalies also. For role in our economy. During the last 15 to example, when the gross proHt of a company 20 years a tendency has developed that the is calcula ted, income tax is deducted from owners of the m ills gradually swa lIow all the . that and bonus is paid to the workers from profits and cause their mills 1u ~utrer losses the remaining profit but if the income of the and ultimately take it to a stage where the employee who gets bonus becomes taxable workers have to face unemployment. The re· after getting bonus then income tax is deduc­ suit is, that Government arc obliged to take ted from his pay also. I feel that deduction over the industry under compuhion. For the of income tax from two sources is not justi­ last 10 to 15 years this trend has been going fied. on. Keeping in view this increasing tendency Similarly, we have put a ceiling of 20 of the mill owners can Government not take per cent for payment of bonus. When it is a a decisive action '! Did we not opt for mixed question of payment to the workers. why economy in the hope that the private sector should a ceiling be fixed? Similarly, from the people would also contribute their mite in available surplus also, only 60 percent is paid improving the economy of the country'? But whereas in the name of capita) investment and does their presen t attitude not show that revenue deduction a large portion is sliced they have not proved sincere to the desired away. Then why should the bonus not be paid extent" I, therefore, submit that the problem from the ~ent per cent available surplus 'l of the textile industry should be resolved once for all. Durina the last several years, In 1984-85, you had increased the deprec­ the work.ers of several textile mills had to iation rates. This bas resulted in less payment face miserable conditions, many of them died 295 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill MAY 16, 1985 Payment 0/ Bonus /Jill 296

[Sbri K. N. Pradhan] that the bonus is a deferred wage. The of starvation and others became jobless and Central Government employees and the in spite the best efforts of Government, the Railway employees did not accept the stand min owners went on causing their nlilJs to taken by the Government. They waged a suffer losses, they never tried to bring impro­ bitter struggle you know all about Railway­ vements in them and ultimately, Government men':, strike in' 1974. Ultimately Govern­ bad to take over their mills. n1ent accepted the bonus in the case of the Central Government employees. But you I am funy confident that the Hon. will see that the bonus has been implemented Labour Minister will be kind enough to amend in the case of Central Government employ­ the other labour laws at the earliest as per ees but it is to be linked with the produc­ requirements. With these words, I support tivity. Here I would point out that in the the Bill. case of private sector you have accepted that the bonus is linked with the deferred [English] wage. But when the Government implement the Bonus Act for their own employees, they, SHRI AJOY BlSWAS (Tripura West) : say that it is to be linked with the producti­ Sir, Government has brought forward a vity. I do not know why the Government small piece of legislation. This will definite­ is 111aintaining double standard in this case. ly help a section of the workers. But 1 By doing so, it will enthuse the capitalists think without a comprehensive Bill the prob­ and the exploiters of the country. So. you lems of the workers are not going to be have to decide in the case of giving bonus to solved.' What is the concept of bonus? the Governtl1ent employees whether bonus Bonus is a deferred wage. According to the will be linked with the deferred wage or not. Constitution, the State sha 11 endeavour to Now, Sir, about 60 lakh State and the pro.vide a living wage to the workers and semi-Government employees are not getting employees of the country. But the workers the bonus. They arc in doldrums. A few and employees of the country are not gett­ State Governments have sanctioned to their ing this living wage. They are not even employees some ex-gratia payment. That is getting the need based minimum wage. not the bonus. It is the Central Government They are getting far below the need who can formulate the National Wage Policy based minimum wage. So, there is a or the Bonus Policy. It is the Parliament between the Jiving wage and the wage lap which can pass the Act. The State Govern­ which the workers and employees are getting. nlcnts have no powers. So, I would like to Bonus is a compensation of this gap. It is a know from the Hon. Minister whether he deferred wage, as I said. If it is so, then, all would consider bringing forward a compre­ the employees, all the workers. of the coun­ hensive Bill so that these 60 lakh of the try should get the bonus. But it Stale Government and the semi-Government is not so. Workers have earned this right, employees also get the bonus. oot by any gratuitous relief or by charity but the workers have earned this right Now, Sir, in this legislation, the ceilins through their blood and through their sweat. of the calculation has been raised from Rs. 750 to Rs. 1600. I welcome this. But what In 1965 the Central Government pa~'5ed about the eligibility ceiling of the bonus? the Bonus Act. Bonus was linked widl the It is still kept at Rs. 1600. The Bonus Act deferred wage. But the Central Government was passed in 1965. During these 20 years, and State Government employees and semi­ the wages have increased due to price rise. Government employees were left out from The quantum of wages has been increased the purview of this B )IlU'i Act. I don·t but the real wages has not increased. Many understand this. If the Government has wor kers were getting bonus previously and accepted the principle th.lt Bonus is deferred now they have been left out from the purview wagc, then, why should the Central Govern­ of the Bonus Act. Thousands and thousa ods ment employees, State Government employ­ of the workers are being deprived of the ees and semi-Government employees be bonus because of Hie ceiling fixed at Rs. left out from the purview of this Bonus 1600. If you ure really interested to do some­ Act? Sir, even several High Courts and thing for the workers, definitely you have to tbe Supreme Court lave their verdict remove this ceil ins limit. , j' 297 Payment oj Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Payment ollJonus /J,II 298

My third point is about the maximum the Government has exhibited its intentions ceiling limit of 20 per cent. Sir, when you at the first Budget session, when the Fina&lCe are not able to fix any ceiling on profit, you said that relief is to be given to workers and have no right to fix ceiling limit on bonus. the Hon. Labour Minister has now Actually. the employers, the owners, the brought forward this amending Bill. capitalists are earning at the cost of the workers. I would strongly plead that the This Act came into force in 1965. We workers should also have a share of the should take into consideration the pric.e rise profit. When you have accepted that bonus and as such the upper limit that has now is a deferred payment of wage, why should been raised from Rs. 750/- to Rs. 1600/­ there be any ceiJing ? ought to be raised still further to Rs. 3200. Under the leadership of late Shrimati Indira With regard to the allocable surplus. Gandhi, it was decided to give bonus to I do not know the idea behind this. Who class III and class IV enlployccs, but some will determine the allocable surplus f? It is States have not as yet given bonus to these the owner. The workers have no access to employees. When the Hon. Labour Minister the accounting of tke owners. Why should brings forward a comperhensive Bill, I have not the workers get bonus on the basis of a suggestion to make for his consideration. the balance-sheet? The balance sheet is to As it is, if '1n employee or worker gets an be taken into account otherwise the workers increment and his wages go a little over Rs. are being deprived of their due share of 1600, he docs not get bonus, he is deprived. profit. The increment will thus not be a boon for him, but it will be a curse. When a Compre­ Lastly, I shall request the Hon. Minister hensive BiIJ be brought .1 suggest that bonus to bring a comprehensive Bill in which the may be given not taking into consideration State Government and semi-Government the wages, but the category of the employees. employees should also be included and If the bonus is to be given according to category of employees then when Jow worker brought within the purview of the Bonus gets an increm'ent, that will not affect, his Act. Sixty lakh State Government an~l semi­ entitJement to bonus. Government employees are on the path of agitation. In 1974 they organised a one-day As far as the companies are concerned, strike. Even on the 15th of this month. the profit indicated in the balance sheet fifty lakh State Government employees showing profit and loss is taken for granted. organised demonstrations throughout the country for bonus. If the Central Govern­ 15.00 hrs. ment claims that India is a welfare State, and the Government is for the workers, in A labourer or a worker has no chance to that case you should definitely have a oppose. it So. some provision is to be made National Bonus Policy. Once again, I request in the Act so that in case, there is some the Labour Minister to bring forward a dispute about the Balance Sheet, over profit comprehensive Bonus Bill in the near future, or loss, the Government should intervene so that all sections of the people get bonus and a decision has to be faken. Once again, according to the norms of bonus as deferred I congratulate the Labour Minister because wages. this Amendment will give relief to thousands of workers and a comprehensive B in will 14.56 brs, certainly give further relief.

(SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESHWARI J5.01 hrl. in the Chair] ISHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARJ SHR) SOMNATH RATH (Aska): Sir, in the Chair1 I rise to support the Paymen t of Bonus (Amendment) Bill. SHRJ SATYENDRA NARAYAN " SINHA (Aurangabad) : Mr. Chairman. Sir, I Under the dynamic leader~hjp of Shri also rise to support the Amendment before Rajiv Gandhi, ours is a progressive and pro­ the House. Tltis is no more a matter to be labour Government. It is not only a sloaan, disputed now that bonus is a 1epl claim and 199 Payment 0/ Bom48 Bill MAY 16, 1985 Payment 0/&11'" 11111 300

[Shr; Sateyndra Narayan Sinha) treated as a deferred wage, a device to fill the gap between the living wage and the actual a worker is entitled to claim it is a matter of wage. If that isso, it should not be linked with risht. Those days are over, when it used to productivity as has ~n done in the case of be a bakshish or ex-gratia payment or a gift. Railways Or Telegraphs. This has to be clari­ In 1965 the Payment of Bonus Act was fied; and since, as 1 said earlier, the law is passed. when this national ceiling of Rs. 750 settled on this point, the concept has been wali fixed and the eligibility criterion was 8C'cepted, there is no point in not extending fixed at Rs. 1600/-. The amendment now the application of this law to these undertak­ brought before the House seeks to remove ings. this notional ceiling of Rs. 750, which means that an employee getting Rs. 1600/ .. becomes I do not agree with what Mr. Ajoy Biswas eligible to bonus. But Sir, the other part of it said when he spoke about profits, viz. that is missing, viz. the eligibility criterion. All they have made a contribution to the earning the members who have spoken before me of profits, because then you cannot talk of have been unanimous in asking to raise the this productivity; you cannot say that it limit of eligibility to Rs. 3000. Their argu­ should not be linked with productivity. i.e. ment is that the notional ceiling of Rs. 750 if you talk of profits. So, irrespective of pro­ fixed in 1965 is too low on account of the fits earned, my submission is that a worker erosion in the value of rupee, and then thc should get bonus as a defetred wage, and it upper limit also should~ by the same token, should be calculated on the basis, as if he be raised to Rs. 3000/-50 that the bene- was gdting Rs. 1600;'-. This should be the 6t of this can be ffilde to a large available criterion. number of workers. Now Sir, when this Pay­ ment of Bouns Act was passed, the salary of most of the workers was near about Rs. 750. Now I wish to welcome the step taken by Now a skilled worker is geting much more the Labour Minister in constituting a than Rs. 2000 or in the neighbourhood of Rs. Committee of Labour Ministers of several 2500 to Rs. 3000. So, those worker~ are get­ States -which I found in the newspapers-to ting more than Rs. 1600 and they lire skilled evolve a National Wage Policy. When a workers. Just because inflationary pressures national wage policy is actually evolved, I or for other reasons, their salary has gone up think it will take care of all these factors. beyond Rs. 1600 and they will be deprived of Our friends have been unanimous in request­ the benefit of this Act. So, it is logical and ing the Minister to come up with a compre­ reasonable that Government should have hensive legislation. I hope he will take all come up with an amendment that a person these factors into consideratiQn. There are who is getting more than Rs. 1600 or a several laws like the WOrktllen's Compensa­ person who is genins Rs. 3000 or Rs. 2500 tion Act. The definition also dIffers from Act would be eligible to get bonus, calculated on to Act. All the definitions should be made the basis of notional ceiling at Rs. 1600, just uniform, and there should be no ambiguity as in the previous Act. in which it was calcu- and there should he no room for any dispute 1ated on the notional basis of Rs. 750. In or conflict. He should come up with a wage this context, the notional ceiling would be policy, fixing the minimum wage, and the Rs. 1600. Thi" would ltave been more logical, upper i.e. the maximum wage. I would remind reasonable and proper. the Hon. Minister that Pandit lawahar Lal Nehru had declared the intention of the Government that there should be an upper My next suggestion is that bonus which limit as well as a lower limit. Today, the has been accepted as deferred wage, should upper limit is nowhere to be seeD~ The sky be extended to all employees of Government, is the upper limit. For the worker, there is a whether they are serving in the public sector lower limit. Still, it is a fact tha t SO per cent . or semi-Government undertakings or in the of the people in India are Jiving below the Government undertakings. It should not be poverty line. Developmental activities have linked with their productivity, because in that given them no benefits. They have been case the whole concept of making it a deprived of the benefits. Their standard of deferred wage will be defeated. It should be living has not gone up. But when the national treated as a part of his waae. As my friend wage policy is evolved, aU these factors have Mr. Ajoy Biswas said just now, bonus is to be taken into consideration. 301 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Paymt.nt 01 Bon"-' Bill 302

Now with regard to unorganized labour. number of laws in some of the States llnd I know that the labour, e.g. in tea plantation evell rules for the laws have not been framed which is an. organized industry, gets bonus. and they have not been implemented; but But what about the large number of agricul­ laws are there. As far as their implementa. tural workers who are not organized? They tion is concerned, in some cases. it bas been depend on the sweet will of the landholders. nil and in some other cases it has been very Even with regard to the minimum wag(s, very slow. So, I join my other friends in there is dispute. Minimum wages are not be­ demanding that a comprehensive law should ing paid to them. All kinds of troubles are be brought forward at the next session itself. being faced b," them. I have mentioned this The Labour Minister has promised about it point in the HOllse several times and I would and I sure he wiIJ do it. request the Hon. Labour Minister to take these factors into account when the national labour policy is evolved, so that he takes care Coming to this particular amendment, I of every section of the country. and nobody welcome to the extent the ceiling bas been is allowed to languish in poverty or depriva­ enhanced from Rs. 750 to Rs. 1,600. The tion, when the goal we have set for ourselves basis on which this has been enhanced is not is the bringing in of a socialist society. My know to us. Just now. Mr. S. N. Sinha said friend on other said: we have abandoned the something about it. In 1965. it was fixed at Rs. 750, but, then very few people were get­ socialist path. ting this much of salary. If ] remember SHRI INDRAJIT G UPT A : I never said correctly ---this is subject to correction-the that, because they were never on that path. cost of living index was then about 137; now it is more than 588. If you calculate on that SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN basis also, the ratio will be more than 2,~OO. not know SINHA : No, we were. We have taken all ] do on what hasis this figure had been arrived at. Of course, it was announced anti-poverty measures, to improve the living conditions of the people; that js true. But much by the Finance Minister and the Labour Minister has worked out. But I do not know more has to be done; and the Labour Minister, w"tether it is scientifically worked out. Of who has worked in the labour field also course, 1 am happy that the Labour Minister should take into consideration the conditibns in the has given a hint that of all kinds of labour so that they can get Conference it will every benefit of the laws that we are enacting be en hanced to 3000. here; these laws should be properly imple­ mented so that labour can get full benefits. How many workers are going to be bene­ fited from this? Why should we discriminate With these words, I, once again, support between workers and workers? What is this Bill and request the Hem. Labour needed in our COUlltry today is production Minister to come up with a comprehensive and more produL·tion alone. AJI peopJe. legislation and evolve a national wage policy Government, management, labourers, we must

which will take C into consideration all the all unitedly see that the countf"} produces factors and will be to the benefit of every more in all fields. In order to do that, the section of the society. labour must have at least min irnum facilities, at least living facilities. In this, thousands of SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore workers have been left out of Bouns Act; South) : The Hon. Labour Minister has raised they will not get bonus. 1 also strongly urge lot of hopes in the minds of the workiog that not only this limit should be raised but class not only while replying to the debate on also I will be happy if there is no limit at the demands for grants of his Ministry but all; that ic; also necessary, 1 think. This bonus also in the Labou r Ministers' Conf~rence was started as bakshee,\/1, but now it has be... recently held and in the Consultative come a legal right; and as many members Committee meeting. So, J am confident that said, it has now considered as a deferred he will implement all that he has said. wage. I remember quite well that in this verY House Pandit JawaharJal Nehru said tbat There are inneumerable laws in respect of every worker must have tbe need-bassed labour not only "4t the Centre leve) but aJso minimum wage. How many workers are aet .. at the Sta1e level. As I know, there are a tins the minimum wases leave alone the need 303 Payment of Bonus Bill MAY 16, 1985 Payment of Bonus Bj./J 304

(Sbri V. S. Krishna Iyer) Bill that piece of JeaisJatjon wiH be placed here. based wage. Even the minimum wages that have been fixed have not been paid for. MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Moo) Chand Daga. Madam Chairman, we should not forget that lakhs and lakhs of unorganised workers [Trans/ation] are there who consititute nearly 80 per cent SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali): of the labour force. 1 would earnestly request Madam Chairman, today there is not a single the Labour Minister to remember this. I am Member of Parliament who does not support convinced about his anxiety to help them, 1 the principle of bonus. If he has to enter know that he has sympathy towards the the politics of vote, be should support the labour, because he was himself a labour leader. principle of bonus as much as possible. If I know that, and I requested him to consider someone asks for 20 per cent .bonus,· be the case of the unorganiscu labour force. should d~mand for 25 per cent. But our Labour Minister has crammed a very good Then there are lakhs and lakhs of land· reply that the Bonus Amendment Act is less labourers also who are working in the about to come and that tbey are going to country. You know thtlt, Madam, in our own bdng forward a comprehensive legislation in State there are landless labourers, who consti­ this regard. Regarding bonus I want to tute SO per cent of the labour force. They know one basic thing name1y how many are not paid nlinimum wages, leave alone times how nlany mandays were Jost for bonus. They are not even paid minimuln demanding bonus? In the beginning when wages, regularly. So, I once again earnestly 8.33 per cent bonus was declared, the urge the Government that OUf aim should be workers had had to struggle hard for that. that we should sec that the workers are paid Then later on, when it was increased to minimum wage in all sectors, whether it is 20 per cent, for that also the workers had to the public sector or the private sector or any struggle much. Nowadays, in every other sector. A minimum wage tnllst be there industry, there are two or three unions. One for every worker. So, I would once again union asks for 10 per cent, the other requf,!st the Hon. Minister that he should oot demands 20 per cent -bonus. If in Maharashtra, think of linking payment of bonus with pro­ 20 per cent bonus is demanded, then in ductivity. Irrespective of productivity, whether Karnataka the workers ask for 25 per cent it is increased or not, bonus should be paid. bonus and in Tamil Nadu for 40 per cent. Because the labourer does h is duty honesty. Please do not distrust the labour. 1 am not a ONE HON. MEMBER: What will be trade union leader but ,I can say one thing. the demand of the Rajasthan workers? When tbe labour asks for bonus, he will do so only when he is convineced that olanage­ SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: They ment could afford to pay please do not think will ask for 100 per cent bonus. This is the that they want to paralyse Of sabotage the situation today and the Labour Minister industry. It is not so. They work hard for the will not say what is going to be the limit. development of the industry. The management In India, whosoever speaks more in support lUis to understand the labour and give them of bonus, he will be applauded more by the the bonus when they ask for it. Wh~ther it is workers'? The bone of cO'"1tention of the the private sector or the public sector the workers is bonus and I think the workers management should realise this. get in several places Puja bonus, Dussehra bonus, etc., separately. Now the workers say, I would therefore request the Hon. "Let us check the balance sheet" and wbe.D Min ister to ensure that every worker is they see the balancesheet, they say that the c:overed by this Act and also to see that he businessmen, the baniyas, are thieves. brings forward the proposed comprehensive legislation about the need based minimum One thing more. It has been stated in Walle and also the atnendments-much pro .. Article 39(2) tha t there shall be labour mised -to the Labour 'Act. I hope that when participation. This participation should be we meet here again for the next session, that at every stage. Otherwise how win you oome is the monsoon session, the co.mprebensive to know that the profits earned by the lOS Payment of B()nuJ Bill VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Payment 0/ Bonus Bill 306

oompany have been included in their balance­ should be formed for them also and tbey sheet or not. Presently. we have to depend should be paid bonus for 15 days. There is on the balance-sheet. If we appoint someon~ difference of opjnion on the rate of bonus as a judge, he also starts taking his share. also. The criteria for productivity linked Many a time, the labour. leaders also take bonus will aJso have to be changed. Other­ there shiue of money. That is why 1 say that wise, a new question will arise in the States. 3. comprehensive Bi II should be brought on Everybody will demand bonus. Gradually bonus and for that the Hon. Minister will we have ~Harteu paying bonus to the P&T have to fix a criterion. Earlier, bonus was empJoyees, and the Railway and Defence linked with productivity. You are aware that employees. We are paying bonus to the LIe in 1974 in spite of the strike in the railways, employees also irrespective of their gross bonus was paid. After that, Prof. Dandavate salary. In this way. everybody will ask for became the Railway Minister and bonus was bonus. paid to the workers. In Defence also, bonus Now he has given the definHion of bonus was paid. In spite of losses to the Railways. as deferred wages. What is this deferred bonus was paid. Even if the Public Under­ wages'? If it is a deferred wage then pay takings incur losses, they have to pay the interest on it. We have heard the expression bonus. The emlJ)oyees of the P & T Depart­ 'deferred wages.' ment also get bonus, even if the letters posted may reach their destinations after seven days. My submission is that there shou1d be some [English] criterion for the payment of bonus. When It is a deferred wage. Very good! If it is Shri Shiv Raj Patil was not a Minister, he a deferred wage, why don't you take interest also used to favour the payment of bonus. for this deferred wage ? This subject has become so common that it causes loss of mandays. [Translation]

[English] I request the Hon. Minister that he should, after ~onsu1ting an the parties and AN HON. MEMBER: Why are you keeping in view al1 the points, reformulate opposing bonus? the Bonus Act. You should keep this thing in mind that mandays should not be lost SHRJ MOOL CHAND DAGA: I am because of this law. The peopJe who are not opposing bonus. Should J 10se all my entitled to bonus should get the bonus and votes? 1 have been the President of the the prolit should remain with those for whom INTUC for the last so many years. it is meant. You wiJl have to keep atl these things in mind. [Translation] You have said that you will call a In respect of bonus, the Government meeting in July or October. After that you machinery has to go into many aspects. You will formulate the Bonus Act. If it is done. should appoint a Committee in this regard we shall not be able to discuss it in the so that the comprehensive Bill which may be Monsoon Session. My request is that this brought forward should inc1ude all the Bill should be brought in the Monsoon aspects. It will avert loss of mandays and Session and passed so that this question is will help in the payment of proper amount resolved once for all. of bonus. The employers should also earn some profit. We shall have to find some ·SHRJ R. ANNANAMBI (Pollachi): way out for this. Madam Chairman. I am grateful to you for giving me this opportunity to say a few I want to tell you that there are industries words on behalf of my party the All India which incur losses due the payment of bonus. Anna D.M.K., on the Bonus Amendment Even if they are incurring loss, they will Bill. have to pay bonus at the rate of 8.33 per It augurs well for the labour in our cent. They cannot refuse to pay this much country that their representative is at the bonus. You will have to rethink about the productivity-linked bonus also. The agri­ -The speech was oriaioaJly delivered in cultural labourers have no unions, the unions Tamil. 307 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill MAY 16, 1985 PO)'me"t 0/ Bonus Bill 308

tShri R.. Annananlbi) systems arc in vogue. The HOD. Labour helm of affairs. We have started experiencing Minister is fully conversant with the woes the benefits of having a real labour leader and wails of contract labourers and casual As the Labour Minister. On 7.5.1985 while labourers, as he has himself gone through speaking on the demands for grants of the the mill. He should earnestly endeavour to Ministrv of Labour 1 had demanded the abolish the contract labour system and the formulation of a National Wage Policy. casual labour system in the country. It may With due deference to the views expressed be difficult for him to abolish casual labour by the Members on the floor of this House system in the private industrial sector. But and in great promptitude our Labour its existence in public sector industries is Minister has constituted a high level com­ obnoxious. Every attempt must be made to mittee to formulate the national wage policy. abolish casual labour system from public I welcome this and I am sure that this sector industries. Committee will soon complete its work. I was thrilled to see the other day the news Before 1 go further. I would like to refer item about the constitution of this high level to the pitiable plight of plantation workers committee. This confirms the commitment in Valparai area of my Pollachi Parlia­ of our Labour Minister and his dedication mentary constituency. Thousands of men to the cause of labour in our country. and women are working in Coffee and Tea Plantations in this area. For more than 10 Similarly, in my speech on that day, years, 20 years, they are treated as daily I welcomed the announcement of our Hon. wage labour. I am personally conversant Prime Minister about five national awards with the miserable living of these plantation for the labour. This will go a long way to workers. The plantation owners fleece them enthuse the labour to give their best for the and deny them fair wages, 1 know many good of the nation. Our Hon. Prime Minister, hundreds of young women workers in their in whom the labour of the country have prime of age are wasting away their youth; reposed their futl confidence and unflinching they cannot get married because they cannot faith, has vindicated his Government by the pay dowry from their wages. The Hon. announcement of national awards for the Minister of ]a bour should in fact formulate labour. This Bill itself is a further proof a separate law for plantation labour in our of our Hon. Prime Minister's commitment country. Their nature of work and their con­ for the cause of labour. ditions of living are quite distinct from other workers in the plains. I have no doubts in I should say that th is Bill is pursuance in the capacity of our Labour Minister to rise of our Hon. Finallce Minister~s proposition to the occasion for the good of plantation in his Budget enhancing the ceiling of labour in the country. Rs. 750/- per month to Rs. 1600/ .. for the entitlement of bonus. I have no doubt that The casual labour system being followed this Bill will get the unanimous approval of in our Indian Railways, in P & T Department this H,)u~e. The Hon. Members who preceded and in other public sector undertakings me have made several suggestions including should be done away with immediately. the elimination of this ceiling limit of Though the possibilities for doing away with Rs. 1600. 1 am sure the Hon. L1.bour that casual labour system in private in.dustrial Mini,ter will bestow his personal attention sector may be remote, yet the Hon. Labour on the"e suggc'\tions and act accordingly. Minister shou ld exert in that direction also. I w\)uld not g0 into the te~hnicality of bonul) being a dcft:rrcd wage and hence it should Recently he has announced that a not be linked with productivity. I am COll­ national tripartite conference will be con­ cerned primarily with the labour getting vened to discuss the problems of labour in bonus which is their birthright. Here I have our country and to formulate constructive to refer to the prevalence of contract labour proposals to resolve them. I should commend system and casua 1 labour system in the the ceaseless efforts of our Labour Minister country. You will agree with met Madam. for ameliorating the living conditions of our if J say that the workers will not be able to labour. I would take this opportunity to derive nny benefit from labour laws such as refer to a few allied matters connected witll the bonus law etc. so tong as these pern'icious the welfare of workers. 309 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill VAISAt<.HA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Poyment 0/ Bonus Bill 310

In 1983, 5280 Works Committees should should be no ceiling on the amount of salary have been constituted in the industrial sector on \Ybich the bonus accrue. We all proclaim of the country. So far only 1838 Works that we are living in a prosperous India and Committees have been constituted, covering all our pJans were meant to give a happy So per cent of the workers. The Hon. Labour ]ife to the poorer, to make their Jiving better Minister should ensure the constitution of than what we are getting at prescnt, works committees in all the industries but our efforts have not succeeded and covering the entire labour force. the result has been that the poor has become poorer and the rich has become richer. Now, so far as the case of Sivin, The minimum wages being paid under bonus to the employees and the workers of the Minimum Wages Act bear no relation­ this country is concerned, I believe we have ship to the existing price level. The prices of a different phiJosophy. Our Senior leader, essential con1modities are soaring sky high. Shri Satyendra Narayan Sinha has deolanded Presently, once in two years the minimum that there should be no ceiling so rar as wages are reviewed. I suggest that once in bonus to be given to these employees and twelve months such a review should be under~ workers is concerned because now in this taken so that the rninimum wages reflect the Act any person who is getting a salary of rising prices of essential commodities. It Rs. 1600/- only is entitled or eligible to have should be made mandatory on the part of a bonus. or get a bonus, but those people State Governments to have such an annual whose salary is more than Rs. 1600/ .. are review of the minimum wages being fixed not entitled to it. My contention "is that there under the Minimum Wages Act. Then only should be sOlne kind of limitation because the workers will get some tangible benefits. unless we have that kind of limitation, if we go on granting that much of bonus to every­ Presently there is no equal pay for equal body, then there are people who are gettinl work. The women workers are the victims, salaries of more than Rs. 4000 or Rs. 5000. though there is Equal Remuneration Act. So, if we at all give them also bonus, then This Act is not being implemented effectively what will be our formula about those people and unifQrmily throughout the country. 1 to whom bonus should not be given in the demand that the Labour Minister should registered list? We have already proclaimed take personal interest in getting this law that even those workers whose salary is implemented by the States so that the women much Jess as a consequence of their lower workers get equal wages like their male jobs, should not be paid a bonus of more counterparts. The Hon. Labour Minister than Rs. 50/-. It indicated that we have a has mentioned in the other House that he slab so that the poorer persons or those will soon bring a comprehensive labour law peop1e who are at the lowest grade, they must covering different aspects of the problems of have sonle kind of higher bonus so that tbey Our workers. I want that this should be done may have a living which mu!-.t be wortb expeditiously. Before J conclude, I would living. Now, with this exemption on income. appeal to the Labour Minister that he should if we go on granting that much of liberty by law ensure that the workers who have or freedom to any person wbo is getting put in three to five years of continuous Rs. 5,000 to be eligible to get bonus, theD service are treated as permanent workers and naturally it is a serious erosion of our they should become entitled for all the economy so much so that those people who benefits under the labour laws. I am sure are getting bonus at a lesser rate will also that this will gradually eliminate the casual have a disparity and discontentment. So. our labour system in the country. Once again J Labour Minister who bas brought this BiJJ 10 extend my support to this BjI) and conclude give bonus to a person whose salary is my speech. Rs. 1,600 or less than Rs. 1,600 bas done a good thing and I support the Bill, The bonus should not be given to per50ns who are [Eng/iSh] getlina salary above Rs. 1.600. SHRl RAJ MANGAL PANDE (Deoria) : Madam Chainnan, we have heard mucb Madam. there must be some tribuna) about tbe bonus and productivity-linked or agency wbich must decide such kinds or bonus and also scme spcecbes that there qitational approaches coven for the sake 01 l11 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill MAY 16, 19H5 PaYllJent of Bonu~ 11111 '31l

(Sbri Raj Mangal Pandey} ing the ceiling, there is no check. Then, there will be further discontentment and the result wales, bonus or any other benefit Oll account will be unnecessary contlict between the of which man-days are lost in this country. management and the workers. Mr. Daga is very much right in his conten­ tion on the issue of bonus that many working days, hundred and thousands of I shall now request one thing more. The workins days have been lost. So, it indicates very purpose of giving bonus is to give an we do not have the uniform national incentive to the workman or to the employee policy or national philosophy regarding so that he may have an inspired feeling; Irant of bonus. 1 shall request the Hon. that he has to work for the nation; he has to Labour M.inister to have sonle such kind of work for the society. When we see the other tribunal which may not only look into the people who do not have any such outlook question of wages, work-hours etc., but may or do not have any such outlook which also decide all kinds of issues which virtually affects the solidarity and unity of the nation, arise between the Government on the one when they are getting more than what they side, the management and the workers on the should get and when these workers are other side. These tribunals should be given getting much Jess thaf:l what they should 60 much of power to deal with these cases. get, then there is this kind of discontent- With the establishment of a tribunal, all these 1l1ent. So, to avoid this kind of situation conflicts regarding the ·grant of bonus in there should be a comprehensive law and different factories and undertakings will stop. there should be a uniform policy, and at There have -been many cases where concerns least three categories of enactment must be like Eveready and other factories' workers there - the factories whose earning is beyond have demanded 40 per cent bonus. There a particular amount, the factories who are are concerns where the workers have de­ in between the amounts and the factories who manded 33 per cent as bonus. In Government are going in losses. We remember that in the undertakings~ even when we are in loss, we Emergency period we were giving bonus at live 8.33 per cent as bonus. I mean to say the rate of 4.33 per cent, even when there. that there must be some kind of agency, a were losses. Even during the present period, national ugency which might decide all these even when those public undertakings are issues because they are the only factor~ which under losses, we have been giving 8.33 per cause conflict in the workers-management cent. What is this all ? Madam, when there relations and thereby our national economy arc losses, eV\in in public undertakings whe~e suffers, mandays are Jost and k)ss of billions the balance sheets are not fradulently pre­ and billions of rupees to the nationa 1 ex­ pared, if we give bonus at the ra te of 8.33 chequer. So, my humble submission is that pcr cent or even 'more than that, how could there must be labour participation or our economy be improved? That is a very workers' participation in the management so serious point to be considered. So, I shall tbat the labour union is acquaint~d with or very humbly submit to the House and to the made aware of the loss or profit made by the Hon. Minister to have a look into all these company. Secondly. they must have the n1a hers and go in for such a cotnprehensive sense of participation so t'mt the manage­ Bill so that the worker must be satisfied as ment must also be conscious that any only a contented labour could produce more irregularity or any improper balance sheet than what the nation requires, and unless by which they show it to the Government the laoour is given its dues, and 'unless the and deny the workers the benefit, cann'.)t be labour is given its wages and the bonus done and it should be stopped. Unless we which you think it is its due or which you do it and unless we have a national agency think it is a deferred wage, the society and to decide all these issues, our impo,ing any our national goal of socialism cannot be kind of ceiling of Rs. t 60J or less than that achieved. or more than that will not work. So. my humble submission is that the ceiling of With these words I support the Bill. Rs. J.6OO or less than that. is a very reason­ able ceiling by which the workers who have SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Bas;rhat): been placed at the lower level might not have Madam, I would be very brief. So. I am any discontent against those who are getting not going into all the different aspects of bi&her salary, because once we start increas .. the pres,ent Payment of Bonus Act. 313 Payment '0/ Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Pa)'menl 0/ So,,", BiU l14

MR. CHAIRMAN : Time fixed is only a bout workmen under the Amendment of two hours. We are nearing it now. the Act. And why should you blame him if his salary bas gone up now or is ·Ioina SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA How to go up further? You cannot blame the much time is left ? workman. You are now changing the whole structure of your industry, you are moderni­ MR. CHAIRMA N: Two minutes are sing the industry, you are bringing in left. new technologies, you are telling us every· SHRI INDRAJIT G UPTA: 1 will take day that your whole industrial policy and financial policy is geared towards moderni­ only five minutes. sing the industry, bringing computers and all kinds of sophisticated equipment. The This Amending BiU has got an extre­ people who work on those sophisticated mely limited purpose. That is, it is replacing luachines and who will require training also­ tWO cejlings by one cejling. Up to now in the without training they cannot handle those Act there were two ceilings. One was a ceiling machines- if they earn Rs. 3000/· or more on eligibility which was Rs. 1600 per month. why should they be penalised for that. I-t Nobody drawing more than that could get is a part of the whole process of moderni­ bonus and there was another ceiling on the sation. If you modernise the machine the calculation Of the bonus. That ceiling was worker will also be modernised. So, you Rs. 750, a notional ceiling, which has no must think ahead. We are going into a justification in any Jogic or any accounts situation where you can have no longer 01' anything, but it was there. The merit workers who will be getting Rs. 100 or Rs. of this, Bill is only this, Madam, that it 800 per month. They will be earning much replaces these two ceilings by one ceiling, higher. The number nlay not be big just that is, Rs. 1600 is now the ceiling both now but there will be such people. There for eligibiJity and for actual calculation of is no reason why they should be debarred the amount which he will get. Of course, from getting bonus. it is inadequate and I aln not going to take time now to suggest various other things which should be done to mak.e this Payment ) would here like to remind the Minister of Bonus Act more compn:hansive and the view that the Supreme Court has taken more satisfactory. But as far as this ceiling on this arbitrary discrimination between of Rs. 1600 is concerned for the pur­ worker and worker. In the case of libera; pose of eligibility, ) think almost all lised pension benefits for Central Government Members who spoke her~ wanted that this employees, Government took a decision and ceiling should be raised -some said it announced that people who retired before a should be raised higher, some said it should certain date only they will be eligible to be abolished altogether. I think that what­ get liberalised pension and those who ever is done should be defensible on some retired after a certain date will not get it. 10gical basis. There is no defence. How it There was a big agitation and dis-content­ is Rs. 1600/- ? What is the logic behind it ? ment. Finally they went to the court over What is the legal validity of this ceiling of this and the Supn~me Court held the view Rs. 1600/- ? There is no validity at all. that just by fixing a date, an arbitrary date, This bonus is payable to those people who viz .., jf you retire one or two days before you are defined in this legislation as workmen. will get the higber pension and if you Workmen is a category in our country. In retire one or two days later then you will tbe Industrial Disputes Act it defines very not get it, it amounts to arbitrary discrimi­ clearly what is meant by a 'workman'. All nation between employee and employee and ] am asking for is that anybody irrespec­ is not sustainable and they have struck down tive of his salary who comes within the the Government order and, as sucb, all definition of 'workman' must be eligible government employees have become eligible to get bonus. I t does not matter if he is for liberalised pension benefits. earning Rs. 2000 or Rs. 2500 or Rs. 3000- he won't be earning mort' than that. Some­ I am just drawing a broad parallel. So, body was talking about people earning Rs. on the question of salary limit there should 5000 or Ri. 6000. Those ate oif1Cers, I am not be this arbitrary limit. This wjll nor DOt taJkiol about .officers, I am talkio, stand the test of any law. Therefore, I '",,1M'" 0/ Bolt", llfll 3i6

ISl\ri Indrajit Gupta] I have not seen -this Bilt. l would sussest that this is a wrong idea. Either do away with would request the Minister to be careful the whole concept of bonus if you can do Dot to eet into .difficulty which may later it. There are advanoed countries of the on create lot of complications. It is better West, for example capitalist countries, ~ take the straight forward view that who where they don't have such a thing as ever comes under the-definition of 'workman' bonus. But they have an indexed wa~ IJOtI bODus irrespective of his salary. We system. All they get is their wages but their are &Otting so many letters and representa­ wases is linked with the cost of livilll with tions everyday. I am sure the Minister is the price movement and automatically their also getting representations from people wages go up as prices go up. We cannot saying that this Rs. 1600 limit deprives do that. So we have invented this bonus. them of the bonus as they are getting a We have invented one separate dearness little more than Rs. 1600. allowance and one separate bonus as a cate­ gory which are different from basic wage, Sir, some people seem to imply that basic salary. Now we are con~erned only this bonus is an incentive for strike. I want with this bonus so, for the limited purpose to say it is not an incentive for strike. of this Bill 1 would request the Minister Rather it is a dis-incentive for strike. I humbly, please don't keep this kind of will teU you how. Whatever the total wages arbitrary limit and ceiling. It makes dis· I have actually earned in the whole year tinction and discrimination between employee tbe bonus is a percentage of tbat. The and employee, which I don't think any lowest figure is 8.33 per cent and the highest court in thi~ country will uphold also. ceiling is 20 per cent. If I am on strike I Because, you must have a basis for a dis­ am not paid wages for that strike period. crimination like that. There is no such No work no pay. If I am on strike for three basis. It is better that bonus is made avail­ ,-no n-th s my total wa.ges earned during the able to all workmen irrespective of what year will get red uced proportionately. salary he is earning: if he is workman he Therefore, when the percentage is r;alcula­ should get bonus. For that matter take the ted my bonus also goes down. So; how it case of agricultural labour, who has been is an incentive for strike! If I want to earn referred to here. I don't know whether more 'bonus I should not go on strike. If I you can calculate what percentage of the go on strike my bonU5 will also be less. total wages he earns throughout the -year (lnterruptio"s) to be paid as bonus. It is very difficult in our country·s conditions. First of all be We are not producing very much here. does not work for the whole year. He works I think the workers are producing more than only for a few months during harvest-ing we are producing. We are producing no­ and sowing season and then his wages are tbioa but words. not always paid in cash. Sometimes they are paid part in cash and part in kind. PROF. N. O. RANOA : We are not There is no record kept; he has no record producing children . ... (Interruptions) also of the wage that he earns' [/ntt!rruptiong] He is supposed to be given a minimum MR. CHAIRMAN: Why you ~say we are not producing'? We are producinS. wage. In some cases he manages to get it where be is organised; in many cases be SHltI INDRAJIT GUPTA : We are does not aet it. And at tbe end of tbe year producing words, of course! be may have gone away also. He bas no fixed employer also. He is working in some· Mil. CHAIRMAN: We are producing body's else field today and somebod)' aometb'ina . else's field tomorrow. S,? all these problems are there. We have to think - about it, SHRI INDRAJIT OUPTA. If I say llC)w we can help them, who are the this tomorrow outside Parliament I may be weak.er scetions of all. So; far as the work.. _led .up for sedition. There is a Bill men goes, under tbe Act, there should be -aniaa. U J say outside that Parliament no,limit, no oeilioa, on his salary; be sboukl ~r~ notbiOl but words, I may be put be eti8ibJe for tho bcPlus. That is 'all Cbat til ~lljlo[:.edi&.ion, 1 am wid." 1 don', know; I I&Y. F,O( the .-.mea' -, haw lOt m)' 317 Paymettl of Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Paym61t' 0/ Bonu$ Bill 3t8

reservations on other aspects, of the Bonus Another thina I want to submit is aad Act; but I do not wish to go into them here I agree with Sbri Sinha-that in our now. Thank ¥OU'. country producti011 and the -sea of tbe workers are not related to each other. The [Translation] profit of the factories aDd the wages of tbe workers are not inter-linked. Today, tho SH,Rl ABDUL RASHID KAB·ULI problem is that of production. W. should (Srinagar) : Madam Chairman, I am not pay more and more profit and bonus to the workers in proportion to the inc.... opposing this Bill, I am rather supporting in production. Special attention should be the spirit of the Bill. It has been mentioned paid towards this aspect. Many of tbe repeatedly ill this House that in 1965, when public sector industries are incurring los.... this law was brought, the ceiling for the and even then they are paying bonus to payment of bonus was fixed at Rs. 750, their workers, but in the private sector, but now in 1985 when you are amending the owners think more about their own this law, you have accepted a ceiling up to profit than about giving benefits to their Rs. 1600. I want to submit that the labour workers. You should solve this probletn agitations are going on and they have put in a different way because the industrialists forth certain demands. Over 16 crore and the ca~itaJists are trying to pocket more workers and employees are facing difficul­ and more profit for themselves even .at the ties and problems for which no solution has cost of the sufferings of the employees. been found out by Government. These Therefore, the workers of the private sector people belong to a section which has a fixed should get their rights. Presently, they are income. 1n our society. these are people not getting their rights. who have more than one means of income but our workers and employees have only One important thing and you are limited . income and they have to meet the is, - expenses on the education of their children already committed to this and the matter and other expenses within their fixed income. has been raised in this House also,-that there should be employees' participation in management. Withnut this, there cannot 16.00 brs. be any solution because we do not know how much the income is and how much The way the price" are spiralling and the the profi t earned is. The workers are beinl difficulties of the workers and employees kept totally in the dark about these things. are increasing. Government should try to Unless their participation is there they win resolve the matter in its entirety and should not come to know the extent of profit the not come before the House with piacemeal industrialists are earning. legislation. It is an important matter and all efforts should be made to solve it. When you expect that the workers should increase Thirdly, I would like to submit that production and when you want that the there is a section of workers in our country country should progress and become pros­ for whom there are no labour laws. In our perous, it is necessary that you should villages, there are lakhs of artisans who think of the betterment of the workers and work with their hands and their products employees on whose shoulders this respon­ are sold in the country as well as sen~ sibility lies. Unless you provide tht'm with abroad to earn foreign exchange. This is a better facilities and solve their problems big source of earning foreign exchange. But and unless you give them need based wages, generally it happens that the middJemen how can you expect the country's produc­ exploit them and we do not have any details tion to increase and about 16 lakh employees about them. Through you, I would Uke to and workers to take the country ahead on tell the Hon. Minister that there are lakhs the path of progreliS and development of workers in our State of Jammu and speedily ? This cannot be expected from Kashmir who are enPled in vocatiODl Uke them. Therefore. you have to find out some carpet weaving, papfer mache, wood carv iftl, solution to remove the dissatisfaction among ttc. They are very skilled and honoIt tb. employees and 10 stop strikes, lockouts workers. I am paieed to say that- their daify and tIae increasing number of disputes in the income is between RI. 6 and 'Ils. 8 oat)'. facto.. s. what to speak of the minimum wqe. Tiley 3'19 Payment ~f' Bonus Bill MAY 16, 1985 PaYlMllt of Bonus Bl" 320

[lhfi Abdul Rashid Kabulil place where bonded Ja bour problem does not exist? We should put on end to it. One work day and might, sometimes for 10 bours of the points included in the 20 point or 10 but they do not get full wage whereas programme of the Congress (I) is the aboli­ tbe' owners of carpet factories and others are tion of the bonded labour system. earning crores of rupees from papier macbe, wood carving and other handicrafts. There is great contribution of these artisans in earning I would therefore, J ike to request that a foreiao exchange, but they are not getting comprehensive Bill should be brought after any benifit froln it: The workers are not looking into all these factors. Every possibJe gotting any benifit because the basic laws are effort should be made to solve all the nQt being inlplemented there. Jabour problems.

I would like to request the Hon. Minister that the intere~ts of these illetrate THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE workers may be kept in mind while bringing MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. forward a cOlllllrehensive Bill concerning ANJIAH) : Madam Chairman, many Ron. labour, because these people are being explai­ Members have expressed their views on this ted. The factory-owners and the nliddlemen Bill. You are aware that the workers have are earning profit to the tune of crores of been agitating for bonus for years together. rupees, but the people who actually work At last a permanent bonus system was intro .. are not getting any benefit. duced in 1965. Again in 1980, Indraji got a law enacted for giving 8.33 per cent bonus I would like to inform the House that to the workers. You are aware that while a carpet manufactured in Kashmir is second bonus is being given to some, it is not being to none in the world. At present our gIven to the others. Mr. Kabuli, an M. P. competition is with Pakistan. Kashmir can from Kashmir bas stated just now that it is produc¢ carpets in such a large number not being given to some workers. It is a that this Industry can become a source of fact but there are many anomalies in the revenue to the country. I would like to labour laws in this country, which are not inform you that thousands of innocent there in other democratic countries whether children are engaged in this industry. Labour they arc capitalist countries or socialist laws are not applicable to them. The struc­ countries, and we have to look into that. The ture of their bodies gets distorted. Their capitalists in our country are still of the hands and feet get twisted and generally view that our country is an agricultural they remain ill. Therefore, labour laws country and they pay wages accordingly. To­ should be made applicable to these artisans day, the plight of the farmer, the agricultural also. labourer and the industrial worker is pitiabJe. An unskilled worker in foreign countries gets Rs. 2000 as salary which is equal to the The people who know how to agitate salary of a skilled worker here. Mr. Oaga for their rights, get these Jaws enforced. but has told just now that these very workers the illiterate persons cannot do so. The get Rs. 10000 in foreign countries. That is factory-owners and the middlemen are very why they go abroad for work. These workers clever and dishonest and they avoid enforce­ go to U. S. A. and to the Arab countries as ment of these laws in their factories. I have they get more money there. Here a worker personally seen that thousands of workers has to work for 8 hours as against 6 hours are working in their factories but the owners in other countries. Here Sunday is the only do not show any labour on their registers. closed hoI iday wherea5 in other countries They indulge in malpractices and dishonest two holidays are granted. Besides, many methods. other facilities are provided to them. The management is never wining to give facilities I would therefore, like to' point out that to the workers here. A voice is raised here the present Bill is not going to serve the to provide housing. medical and transport purpose. because many an issue is linked facilities to the workers, but the people in with tbe issue of bonus. There is the jssue the management treat it as sheer waste of of the workers and their children. There money_ They try to set up another industry is the issue of bonded labour. Which is the by saving money on these items. The capital- 321 Payment of Bonus Bill VAISAKHA 26, J 907 (SAKA) Payn,enf 01 BlJllus Bill 322 ists have become money-minded. You may socialism, many things can come under that. compare'the present condition of the big Many Members talked about several other industrialist with their earlier' condition. issues besides bonus. It is impoisibJe for our Many people say that they are paying high country to be at par with other countries. salaries. J do not agree to it, I still maintain The hist()ry of industrialisation is 200 or 250 that a worker gets much less in India, wheth­ years old. It is only after Independence tbat er he is an agricultural labourer or other more industries were set up here. Prior to worker. Unless the purchasing power of the that Birlaji or some others had their indust­ people is increased, more industries cannot ries here. Now that our country is beCominl be set up. If people have more tnoney, they industrially dl.:ve)oped, the issue of wages will spend'more. Then new industries will be and other iSl)ues will naturally come up. No set up. If a worker gets more, he is not going body can check them, even if he so desires. to set up a factory. Wi th the excess money we have taken tbe step keeping in view the he may purchase T. V., scooter, clothes etc. heavy burden. The D. A. of tile pubJic sectOr or he may construct his house with the resutt employees has been increased by Rs. 600 that new industries will be set up and the crores. What does the private st"ctor pay? unemploytnent problem will be solved there­ You nil know that. Even after earning huge by. Without purchasing power the unemploy­ proflts the private sector shows losses. The ment problems cannot be solved. There is bahtnce-sheet is prepared in such a manner no unemployment problem in other countries. that no profit is shown at all, whereas tlle Go to East Gtrmany, the Soviet Union and pusition is otherwise. This position may be other Communist countries and see for your~ different in the case of some of the industri­ selves the increased purchasing power of alists. ?\1ulr i-national companies at Jeast show the people there. That is why there is no their pH1flts. I am not praising them. The unemployment problem there. industrialists in our country employ only Badli la hour, N. M. R. Jabour. casual labour or temporary labour, who remain casual Today, certain. industrial workers are labour for their entire life No change takes considered to be a previlClgcd claf.s, but) do place in their position. Under the leadership not think so keeping in view the economic of ollr Prime M in;ster we propose to amend condition of India, they can be considered aJi the lac(lur ((.iWS so that production may a priveleged dass to some extent but unless im:rc(Jsf r" ridJy and there may not be any they spend Inoney, nobedy is going tc be viofcJiCC. We ~,ha JJ O('It encourage the leader­ benefitted. If the farmers and the worklTS do ship of violtTce in any way. Violence is not not have the purchasing power, then how is needed to get jw;tice. Justice can be secured industry going to be benefitted '? Jf the throu~l h t he laws. Violence wiIJ ruin the industrial worker has got money, he can indllstrics and the nation. Hon. Shri lndrajit spend that and the process goes on. What is Gupta has also said that strike results in the happening is that the purchasing power of loss ()f bonus. He has sa id a very y. ise thilll. the industrial worker has not incrl'used Even the private industrialist is not going to whereas the industrialtst have constructed give anything under the pressure of strike. big buildings. If you see you wiJl find that Some labour Jaws arc proposed to be amen­ the entire money is with them. J am not ded by bringing forward a comprehensive against the" private sector, but the exploitation Bil1. There are certain anomalies in the exis· of the workers in the country should stop. ting Jaws. The Bonus and minimum Right from the late lawahar Lal Nehru to wages Acts also come under it. It is under Indira Gandhi and now our Prime Minister, our consideration as to what should be done Shri Rajiv Gandhi, all have taken steps in for the workers throughout the country, from this direction. Mr. Indrajit Gupta was saying Kashmir to Kanya Kumar;' The Govern­ just now that the interests of all those who ment of Jammu and Kashmir have not yet come under the definition of workman should implemented the labour laws. When I asked be protected. What is the definition of a them why they had not implemented the worker in Ind ia ? They thi!'k-that only labour laws they replied that they were goil'll fitter or turner comes under ttl category of to do so. workman. which is not correct. 1" the demo­ cratic countries, the doctors also come under this category. Here the outlook is SHRJ RAJ MANGAL PANDEY: Witt different. Wilon we have adopted the path of you consider givina 8.33 per cent bonus in 323 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill MAY l6, 1985 Payment 0/ Bonus Bill 324 tbe public sector undertakinBs, irrespective NooN. so far as the question of tbe ceiling of the fact that they are incurring losses '1 limit of pay for giving bonus to the workers is concerned, as you know, the. system of SHRI T. ANlIAH: Everybody knows giving bonus is ~ traditional one and it start· the amount of bonus to be given if there is ed from Bombay. Initially, bonus used to profit. The workers have been given the be given on the occasion of Dussehra, Diwali right to get one month's pay as bonus. The etc. but this system has now undergone people in India only say that they are incur­ changes and it is now no more a customary tina losses. or traditional bonus but has become a perm­ anent feature. Therefore, tbe system of grant­ ing bonus has not started today, it bas been SHRI RAJ MANGAL PANDEY: We in vogue since long. We only want to give are talking about the public sector under­ it a legal shape now and it is in this context takings. that this BiU is before you.

SHRI T. ANJIAH : Only some public I can assure you that this proposal to undertakings are incurring losses while others enhance the ceiling for bonus has been made are showing good performance. Bonus will by Government after a thorough consideration. be given there also. The question of non .. With these words, I appeal to all the Hon. of any payment bonus in industry does not Members to support this Bill. arise. Bonus shall be given in all the indus­ tries whether they are incurring losses or earning profit. (En8Iish] PROF. N. O. RANOA: Shri Indrajit Madam, you know that a number of Gupta and Shri Mool Chand Daga talked industries have been set up in Bangalore. about the ceil ing. Are we to continue this Leave aside the aspect of loss being suffered ceiling. by them. We know how an industry earns profit and how another incurs loss. The SHRI T. ANJIAH : There is a difference management of certain public sector under­ between a skilled worker and a semi-skilled takings is very efficient. Experienced and effi­ worker. Those who are drawing more than cient people are there. In the management of Rs. 750 should get bonus of Rs. 1600. certain other industries, there are some people­ who know nothing about them and still MR. CHAIRMAN The question is : they are there. We know all these things We are trying to affect changes in the indus­ "That the Bill further to amend the tries, wherever needed. These industries Payment of Bonus Act. 1965. as passed incur loss due to this very reason. We are by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consi .. trying to improve their working. deration~ "

Our Government will not tolerate that The motion was adopted. an undertaking should incur loss constantly. MR. CHAIRMAN: The Bouse will We shall try to see that efficient and experi. now take up clause by clause consideration enced officers having good knowledge of a of the Bill. particular industry are projected in that indus­ try. We are trying to see that they some­ Clause 2 how earn profit. For instance, BHEL. is earning godd profit. It is not incurring loss MR. CHAIRMAN : There are no amen· now. Besides. many other undertakings like dents to clause 2. The question is : H. M. T. etc. are earning profit to tht! tune of lakhs of rupees. The main reason for the "The clause 2 stand part of the Bill," loss in these undertakings is that the mana· lement does not have experience and comp­ ThF mol/on was adopted. lete information about them. 1 am of the of the view that with the appointment of Clause 2' was a&leel to the Bill. eftkient officers, there will be no loss in the undcrtakinp. MR. CHAIRMAN: Tbe question is : 325 Companies Bill "AISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Companies Bill 316

"That Clause I, the Enacting Formula obtained prior to 1969 and which was intro.. and the Long Title stand part of the duced by 1960 to permit companies to make Dill.n political contributions subject only to cenain ceilings. Companies often argue and rightly The motion was adopted. that they are entitled to support a political party which believes in certain amount of freedom of private business. Secondly, many Clause J, the Enacting Formula and companies feel that they can resist any pres .. the Long Title were added to the sure ftom any political party for "out of the Bill. books" donations if they are allowed to con .. SHRI T. ANJIAH : I beg to move : tribute, by ,an enabling provision of the statute, a certain sum which is within their "That the Bill be passed." capacity to spend. Thirdly, it is also argued, with some force, that a company itself func­ MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : tions on the principle of shareholders' demo­ cracy, and, therefore, a ban on political "That the Bill be passed." donation in a democratic society is an The 11101 ion was adopted. anachronism. Fourthly, political donation by companies is permitted, within limits, in other democratic countries of the world which have , not suffered on account of permitted political donation. 16.23 brs.

COMPANIES (AMENDMENT) Taking all these considerations in mind. BILL, 1985* it seems that the balance of advantage would lie in restricting ra ther than imposing a total [English] ban on political contributions. However, to make these restrictions realJy meaningful, a THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS few important features have been incorpora .. AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY ted in the Bill. Since companies not having AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI profits should not be encouraged to make VEERENDRA PATIL) ; I beg to move: political contributions, monetary cci)ing as an alternative to a certain percentage of "That the Bill further to amend the profits for arriving at the permissible amount Companies Act, 1956, as passed by of political donation has been done away Rajya Saoha, be taken into considera­ with. The present Bill also provides for tion." absolute prohibition against political donation as far as Government companies are concer.. The Hon'ble Members will recall that the ned. Additionally, it is proposed in the Bill Government had made certain important that companies which have been in existence policy announcements while introducing the for less than three financial years should not Finance Bill on 16th March, 1985. One such be permitted to make political contribution. announcement was that the companies should So that there may not be any controversy in be permitted to make political contribution the future as to what constitutes political in order to enable the corporate sector to donation. the BiJI makes it clear that any playa legitimate role within the defined donation or subscription or payment in norms in the functioning of our democracy whatever form to a political party would and for this purpose necessary legislation amount to political donation. Even an expen .. ,would be undertaken. In recent years, a view diture incurred directly or indirectly or any bas gained ground that a certain amount of advertisement in souvenirs, brochurct pamph­ openness rather than a blanket ban on politi­ Ict or the like would be brought within the cal donation will really augur yveU for a definition of politicaJ contribution. Of course. cleaner political and el:onomic 'environment. provision is also made in the Bill for tbe 'Representatives of trade and industry have 'been equa1Jy urgins upon tbe Government ·Published in the Gazette of India extra .. to reconsider replacement of the existing ordinary Part II, Section 2, da" provision of section ?93A by the law wbicb 16 .. '-198'. Compotdes Bill MAY 16, 1985 Companies ,Bill tshri Veerendra Pa.til] other unsecured creditors for realisation of the balance amount due. In tbe interest of f\111~6t disclosure of the amount contributed, equity and fair play, the secured creditor who tbe:, name of the party, individual or body, has suffered by reI inquishing his security in etc. In order to make these proposals more favour of the worker would be given similar meaningful, the B,n also seek.s to provide priority over other unsecured creditors, pari that any con1pany making any contribition passu, with workers, limited, of course, to in violation of the restrictive conditions the extent of the loss suffered and no more. imposed therein would sutTer the penalty of three times tt)e amount contributed., The officers of the company in default would also Through this Bill, I ha ve also taken the be punished with imprisonment for infraction opportunity to introduce certain clarificatory of this prov ision. amendments in the existing section 396 of the Companies Act. This section empowers 16.27 hrs. the Central Government to order amaJgama­ t ion of companies in public interest. The [SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair] Committee on Subordinate Legislation (Seventh Lok Sabha) have recommended Another important announcen1cnt made that the Con1pany Law Board shou1d be em­ by the Government in the course of introdu­ powered to reassess !Compensation on appeal cing t,he Budget proposals was to the clTect from the order of the prescribed authority that the Government would intrqduce neces­ assessing the compcnsati0n payabJe under an sary k~gislation so that legilim'-lte dLies of order of amalgan1utic.n tinder this .section. workers rank pari pas,HI with, those of ~ccurcd The Committee have also recommended that creditors in the event of closure of the com­ the order of amalgamation itself may provide pany and even above the dues of the Govcrn~ for the continuation of any pending legal meat. The precedence which the present law proceedings by and against the transferee accords to the secured creditors over unsecu­ company on the lines .of the existing provi­ red creditors and the status of the \vorkers sions of section 394 of the Act under which as an unsecured creditor are borrowed froll1 the High Court orders amalgamation. Section Anglo·Saxon law. There arc, h(.~wever, certain 396 of the Act is proposed to be amended countries of the world where notable depar .. suitably to give effect to these recommenda­ ture has been made. Thus, in Cannon and in tions. some of the States in the United States of America. the wages of the employee enjoy a I now move: preferential claim in the event of the insol­ venc), of a corporation and in some cases, the "That the Bill further to amend the wases for labour get precedence over mort­ Companies Act, 1956, as passed by pge and other lien of corporate property. Rajya Sabha, be taken into considera­ lion.H

Keeping the interec;;t of workers in a wel­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: fare State uppermost in mind, the prcs(:nt BiU bas been introduced to provide that tl1e dues "That the Bill further to amend the of all the workers. irrespective of the amount Companies Act, 1956 as passed by involved, should be fully protected by creating Rajya Sabha, be taken into considera­ a statutory charge on all secured assets of tion." the companies in favour of the workers. The protection should be available only to workers SHRI C. MADHA V REDOI (Adilabad) : who come within ~he definition of a work­ 1 rise to give my qualified support to tbe man as defined in the Industrial Disput~s Bill. Act, 1947. Other employ~es {)f the company would continue to be governed hy the existing This Bill seeks to amend three important taw. Under the provisions of the Bill, the sccti()ns of the Companie~ Act. Section 396 secured creditor would have to realise his deals with amalgamation. I have no com­ dues only jointly with th:: Official Liquidator. nlcnts to offer on that. Amendments to se~· to the extent dues of workers remain unrea­ tion S29 and 530 dealing with treatina the fised from the sec.Jrity of the ~ured c;.redi· workers dues puri pauu with the secured tors, the worker would be given priority over creditors are welcome. I strongly support Companies Bill VAlSAKHA 26. 1901 (SAKA) Companies Bill 330 this. For the first time, the Government bas because it has to te secn th~t in the prece­ recognised that the workers do playa role ding three years jf the company makes profit, in the prosperity of the industry and that 5 per cent of that aggregate can be liven as they bave a share in the value of assets of contribution. the company. This is a welcome measure.

As far as the shareholders are concerned, The third amendment is with regard to I am of the !o.trong view that this power section 293A. I oppose this on the ground should be given only to the shareholders. that it takes away protection which the How can we give power, to the shareholders Company Law extends to the share-holders. to give contributions to the political parties 1 1 am not criticising it on the ground that the The least that \\e can do is to say in the B'ill contributions will be mainly going to the that jf a company gives donation to a politi. ruling party and the opposition parties will ca] party, within three months the company be denied and so on and so forth. I do not should call an extraordinary General Body subscribe to .that view. Whether it is the meeting and jt should be ratified. After the ruling party or a party in opposition or an end of the year \\ hen the Annual Report individual who wants to contest as an comes befOl e the ~haH holders, people forget independent, all these today are being denied about it. They do f:Ot know that the com­ legally any contribution from companies. pany has paid any particular contribution to a That was a welcome step. But with this Bill particular paI'ty and nobody will be in a posi­ this particular ban is lifted. That means you tion to remember and to go through the are opening the floodgates for all types of figures in the profit and loss account and say unscrupulous managements to squander the anything about it. I fecI that first of all, on funds of the' shareholders. After all. who is the basis of principle I oppose this because paying when the compCiny pays? It means the c()mpanies should not be permitted to that it is the shareholder who is paying. On give contribution to the political partjes. But behalf of the shareholders this particular Bill if, as the Minister has pointed out just now, gives powers to the Board of Directors to the comp~nics arc being permitted to playa make the contribution. My objection is only role in the democratjc process just by giving on this account. 1 have no objection jf the donation. if the Government wants to give shareholders want to contribute to any politi­ this power to the companies, let these com­ cal party. In India our Compal1Y Law has panies call an extraordinary general meetins been framed in such a way that the share­ within three months of giving the donations holder has got a very litt Ie role in th~ running and get the approval. Tha t is all, Sir. of the company. It is only once a year or once in twO years that the General Body [Translation] meetina is called. And we know what hap­ pens in the General Body meeting and how SHRI RAM PY ARE PANIKA (Roberts.. many shareholders attend it. Small sharehol­ ganj): Sir, as the Hon. Minister has said ders never attend it. It is only a few people while introducilli this Bill, a hint was given who join together and manage to pass the at the time of introducing the Finance Bill resolutions of the Board of Directors. Those that a Bill permitting donittions to various are carried in the General Body meeting and political parties would be brought forward. the annual report and audited accounts are Not only this. the Prime Minister of OUt adopted. country had also announced in the manifesto of OUf congress party a I tbe time of clectioos that such a provision must be made keepinl In this Bill under sect ion 291>3A which is in view the political parties and alao with a substituted by another clause it says that the view to removing corruption from the company can give contribution to the politi­ country. With aU these thing.~ in view~ tbe parties to the extent of S per cent of its cal Hon. Minister has brought forward tbls Bill a&gregate annual profits calculated on the today. Therefore, 1 fully support this BUI. basis of the preceding three years profit. This 'preced ina three years' clause gives scope that a company would be permitted to pay Sir, you just have a glimpse into. the contribution to the political parties in a history of the last 37 or 38 yean. A Bin was partiCular year in wbich it suffers losses also, brought forward In 19S6. Not or"y thia. tbe Companies Bill MAY 16, 1985 Companies Bi/I

(Sbri Ram pyare Panikal electing the people belonging to such parties. What was happening before ,elections? leaders of the political parties of that side, Casterism and communalism were having an whether it was Prof. Madhu Dandavate or ugly alliance and what was to happen to this whether it was the Sachhar Committee, were ugly alliance? We see what is happenning in of the view that donatio~s should be banned the world today. We are passing through very and it was under those circumstances that critical times and all the political parties will Government had imposed a ban on them. have to come together to tackle it. I agree But after imposing the ban, it was felt that that in a democracy, the question of dona­ black money was increasing rather fast and tion arises at the time of elections and we various political parties who were not in a can say that it is an unavoidable evil. But position to collect donations either due to the question is how to curb this evil. I their own policies or due to other circum­ think the proposed Bill will go a long way stances of their own making were not getting in curbing it. I am of the opinion that there justice even in the elections Keeping all should not be too many political parties as these things, this Bill has been brought we have in India today but instead, there forward. should be just two or three parties based on some principles. Onc can be leftist and the other can be rightist and so far as our party I was just going through the debate that is concerned, we have always stood for a took place on this Bill in Rajya Sabha. mjxed economy_ In the Industrial Policy Many of the opposition Members have Resolution of 1956 passed during the late supported it, but at the same time, they have JawaharJal Nehru's tenure, we encouraged the also alleged that the congress party has private sector while at the same time giving brought forward this Bill in its own interest. importance to the public sector. I am of the I went to tell Shri Madhav Reddi-you view that today these sectors have no have a Government in Andhra Pradesh, the importancc. Now, we have the joint sector C.P.M. and left front have their Govern­ and the cooperative sector. T11C entire ments in West Bengal and in Karnataka,' the money comes from a single source, the entire Janata Party has its Government. Therefore, money is puhlic money and it is the money if you criticize it for the sake of criticism, of the nationalized banks. it is not good •. (Interruptions.) There is no question of benefit in it. The question is how to root out corruption from politics. One thing which I want to say is that Today, black money poses the biggest while we are Jegal ising the donations, t~ere problem before tbe country and all this is are parties and candidates who should be being done by the big capitalists, those ele­ provided with the means to contest eJection, ments who influence the economy of our as reiterated by the Election Commission also. country and if it is not checked, it is but But, certainly, it becomes more difficult to do natural that these elements will try to give a so in a country where 337 candidates afe slip to Government under the pretext of there on a ballot paper making it pretty parton ising many political parties. Therefore, difficult for a voter due to the abnormally today is a very important day in the long baUot paper. Gradually, the parties democracy of our country and the Bi II based on casteism, religionalism and linguistic brought forward by the Hon. Minister is a considerations have thinned out and have not historic one which will help checking many been able to achieve success in the recent malpracties which have crept into our polity parliamentary elections. They did manage to due to the imposition of ban on donations. be elected to the State Assemblies but the Not only this, I and my party colleagues are people of Intlia gave a jolt to the parties and of the view that there should not be too the candidates knowing narrow outlook in many parties. One knows to wha t extent the the parliamentary elections. But, still there is number of parties had risen before the eJec­ need to bring about more reform.· Therefore, tions in the name of castel in the name of the time ·is not yet ripe to demand of religion, in the name of region and in the Government to arrange subscription or funds name of community. And when such a thing for the parties. If we make such a provision, happened at the national level too, a lot of thousands of parties would come up over.. difficulties were faced. but the people of India might. I dare say that there are some Itrenat.bened the roots of democracy by not national level parties in respect of wbich one 333 Companies Bill VAISAKHA 26, {907 (SAKA) Companie.f Bill 334

feels some hesitation in accepting them as which is raised by the opposition is what the national parties. There are parties in each circumstances were after 1956 which bad led pocket and each corner of the country and Government to impose a ban on company they claim to be national parties. They donations in 1969 after 1956 and what new secure five per cent votes and become national circumstances had since arisen so as to parties. It is high time that serious second warrant the withdrawal of this ban again. thought is given to it. The present Bill, I think, will hel.p clean our political Ii fe. The political system which we have today So far as the question of West Bengal is . is an open political system. In such a system concerned, I want to say that the indus­ every section is free to play its decisive role trialists are very happy in West Bengal. You but the prosperous section uses it influence know pretty well why an industrialists remains more. There is no denying the fact that the on happy terms with any politica1 party. role of money is continuously jncreasing in Everybody has seen how money was pumped our election system. Every political party is into the last elections. The attitude in Bengal ever eager to accept this money in some form today is very lethargic. You just see their or the other and from one source or the rate of growth. When planning started in other. No political party is today in a posi­ 1951-52, the rate of growth in West Bengal tion to say that they contest elections on the was 14 or 15 per cent. The per capita money raised through their membership income was also very high there. But, what subscription or by the subscription coJlected is the per capita income there today? Today, by the workers of that party. In the situa­ West Bengal is bagging far behind. There is tion which is developing in our country a lot of mismanagement there for the last 7 wherein at the centre there is the congress or 8 years. Government and in various States, Govern­ ments of different parties are being formed, I want to give a suggestion that with a it cannot be said that the raising of resources view to bringing cleanliness in politics and by way of donations is confined to the checking the malpractices in politics, it is congress party alone and that there is a res­ necessary for us to pass this Bill unani­ triction on other parties and that they cannot mously. We shou1d also exert pressure on the accept money. Th is is not so. big companies who run big industries Jest they should earn undue prolits ~n this score. We Now, the que~tion arises why a ban was should ensure that they do not WOJ k against imposed on it in 1969. When this ban was our ideal of socialistic pattern of soceity. imposed, at that time also it was serial on the basis of the recommendations made in I demand that donations may be given to the reports of various committees tbat a cornmon fund, as suggested by some Hon. donations by companies were causina Members. I totally agree to this. An account degradation. a sort of pollution in politics. of the donations given should also be kept. But, after the ban imposed in J 969, a new You should see that black money does not situation emerged. The intention behind that grow in this endeavour. This should not ban was good, bvt that intention was not happen. fulfilled and it was highlighted by the political parties, the inteJligentia and the This Amendment Bill brought forward by newspapers that the political parties were you·wiJI certainly help create a good climate receiving black money from the companies in tbe country and will also help reduce the and the companies were polluting politics by number of parties in the country. giving black money and at the same time the political parties were giving protection SHRI HARISH RAW AT: Sir, I rise to to the companies generating black money by support this Bill. This Bill seeks to make accepting donations. I am of the view that three amendments in the Act of 1956. There the donations that the political parties will set is no dispute so far as two of the provisions after legalizing donations by the companies are concerned. But the opposition parties win not be in black money. The companies have somewhat opposed the third provision. will have to show their accounts to the Income Though this provision has also been in­ Tax and other departments and the other people corporated with \lnanimity, yet the question can aJso bave information to this effect in one 33S Companies Bill MAY 16. 198,5 Companies Pill 336

(8J1ri Harish R.awat] [English]

SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayalu): waY or the other. I tbink this system is more Mr. Chairman, Sir, three things are contemp. open then the one we had earlier, because lated in this Bill. One is lifting the ban Oil the evil which we, want to remove cannot donations by the companies to tbe political be removed by imposing a ban. Therefore, parties. The other two are welcome provisions we shall have to think about the measures which deal with workers' dues and problems tbrouah wbich tbe money received through arising out of amatgamat40n of companies. clandestine methods can be checked from in.ft\]encing the pol itical parties and I think the HOD. Minister has tried to realise this, I oppose this amendment to section 293A abjective through this Bill. Besides, while of the Companies Act. This amendment has got lllQving the Finance Bill. the Finance a long history. In 1956 when the Companies Minister had also stressed that this was a Act was passed, it was provided in that Act part of OUf Prime Minister's resolve to clause that companies could give d0nations to politi­ politics and I think this question should' not cal parti~s. After some time there were debates be viewed in isolation in the amendment of both inside and outside Parliament. Some Article 293. This Bill should be viewed in Committee were appointed. And in 1969 the , tbe overall perspective, in the entire light of then Government imposed a ban amending tbe way the Congress Party is functioning the original 1956 Act. At that time. while today, the way our Prime Minister is func~ introducing that Amendment Bil), the then

doningt the way the, election law was Industries Minister, latc Shri Fakhruddin Ali amended and the wayan effort is being made Ahmed, mentioned that the amendt,nent was to plug the various loopholes and lacunae. I being introduced in order to have a healthy think any political party can criticise it for public life, to clean our public life. The very the time being with a view to malign the same argument is now being put forward by congress party for its own political ends, our present Industries Minister; while this but so far as the facts are concerned and the Amendment Bill is put before the House; he basic intention is concerned, . there cannot be makes the very same statement that this any differences. When we have accepted this amendment is being introduced in order to political system, this open system, I want to have a healthy and cleaner public life. I can­ tell my friends in the opposition that their not understand this at alL All those Commit­ mud slinging and blaming others, branding tees which were appointed - B. N,. Sastri the ruling party and its people as dishonest Committee and Sachar Committee- were is not proper. The situation is not like that. against companies giving donations to politi­ By mud-slinging in politics, by blaming cal parties. Also one unofficial Committee others, we try to give tnose people a free wa<; there appointed by late Shri Jayaprakash band who. in fact, went to totally corrupt Narayan, the Tarkhunde Committee. The our politics and weaken our political setup. Tarkhunde Committee was against it on moral There should be some kind of control over grounds also, as Shri Madhava Reddy has tbe private and other companies. The control pointed out. The majority of the shareholders sbould b" such that they could not earn need not hold the same political view as that rGOIll!Y through dubious me:lns. They should of the Board of Directors, and this political not be allowed to deviate from their declared will or politic~1 view of the Board of Direc­ poHcy, the policy which they put before tors is being imposed on the majority of the Government. For that, we shall have to see shareholders. That is what is going to happen. bow Government are working in that direc­ Whkh is the Party which is going to be tion. I think, our Government and our party benefited by this amendment? Everybddy have endeavoured thrQugh law to keep under knows th4t it is the fuling Party which is chock the intentions of th~ millionaries and going to be benefited. They are already bene­ tbc tycoons. An these efforts should be com­ fiting; they are getting money under the tabJe. plimented. Keeping thi~ in view, I welcome Now, with... this amendment, the ruling Party this Bill. The will Bill provide relief to the can set the money both under the table and workers and will help in checking the various over the table. That it what is goilll to rulpraetices in which the companies are happen. Pcratically this is not at aU loin, to iBdulaioa at present. With these words, I make any he':\lthy break in our public life.. CfMlChidc. This Bill is goina to leplise corruption .ad 337 Companie$ Bill vAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Companies Bill 338

legitimize black money. That is what is going money .. and the people who have been sencrat. to happen in our public life because the ruling ing this black money have been heJpins us party is in a position to pressurise those who to win our election. I this conection I could can give donations. only recite a couplet by Tennyson. It says:

(Interrupt ;OllS) The old order changeth yielding place to new; 17.00 brs. Lest one good custom corrupt the world. Sir, even a child in this country knows that the ruling party is amassing black -money. Sir, whatever might have been desirable in From where did they get all this money to J 969 may be undesirable in 1985 and v;c~ spend in tile recent ftections. Do you think it I'ersa. According to the particular situation came from the sky? Th is money was donated prevailing at that time we would have decided by the big business houses here in our country something. But now with the change in the under the table. I once again want to under­ circumstan(.,cs if we reverse OUf earlier opinon line that by bringing this legislation the ruling there is nothjng wrong in it. Everybody feels party is going to get money both over the that even when there was no ban on political tabJe and under the ta ble. donations the generation of black money was so rampant that a serious check was necessary Sir, I also oppose another clause in this becallse the future of our children and the BiII-293A sub-clause 5 (a) which contemplates futllre of our democracy have .been seriously to levy fine on the companies if some dona­ affected. Now, Sir, the very basis of demo­ tion is given against the provision of this Act. cracy is that we must have a clean public life Supposing an official or Board of Directors and a cleaner political structure. We want to give donation against the provisions of this create a society by giving a tradition of Act why the majority of shu reholdcrs should cleaner public life about which our children suffer? may be proud of. The present situation which is prevaling is that there are serious com­ Sir, I wholeheartedly welcome the provi­ plaints to which I referred to earlier. sion for workers, namely, this amendment to Section 529. This has been the long-standing Now the Question is. how to curb this black demand of the workers in this country. In money evil whi~h j~ corrupting our national this case also J plead with the Minister that and puhlic life. In this House very many times workers should be brougbt at par with the we hav~ urged that there should be a curb on creditors because it is the workers who sweat this. national curse. 'Rut now I don't know and toil for the benefit of the company. why objection is being raj~ed from the other side. When public donations have been So, I welcome the other two amendments stoPped, even then, generation of black money but I strongly oppose amendment to 293A. I did not stop. It has increased manifold and once again like to go on record and say that vitiated our political and national life. So the it is going to legalise corruption and legitimize argument of the members of the other side blackmoney. does not convince UR that the release of tbe ban on political donations will at all affect SHRI RAJ MANGAL PANDEY ouf political life and gtnerate bJack money. (Deoria) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to The Election Commission says that the support this Bill. This is such a Bill which every Repersentation of the peopJe Act does not 'member should welcome. It is a happy augpry give that much of I)Ower to nullify election that the whole House is !;eriously attempt­ through corrupt mt>thods or black money. So. in(l to put a curb on this cancerous disease if we want to have a real democracy and a which ha.:; affected our national life. Who . clean and fair election, then. naturally, this does not know that the generation of black­ process of' generation of black money bas ~ot money has been mainly responsible for vitiat­ to be stopped because it is one potentIal ing our political life so much so that we have factor which tempts the people in the conduct had even in Parliament and outside 'Parliament of the elections. One must admire tb~ inten­ serious complaints alainst us that the entire tions of the Government which is seriously system bas been corrupted bp the bla(;k- work in, on this issue. This is one realOn wbY 339 Companies Bill MAY 16, t985 Compallies Bill 340

IShri Raj Mangat Pandey) a-days euphemestically caJled prOBmatism. This has been followed since long and let us Rajya Sabha has endorsed this Bill and sent not forget it. it to the Lok Sabha for approval. Now, Sir, the opposition from the other side has accepted two of the three amendments but Justice M. C. Chagla who was very much they are baving objection only to public respected by the people of this country, had donations which is not at all convincing. said in 1960 in Tamil Nadu High Court while Could we not remember that till 1969 when deJivering judgement on a case. He said- public donations were allowed, the opposition raised all these cdes, of political atmosphere "If this system of company donation being corrupted. The opposition has been to political parties continue, then we telling us that ban on political donations is will have a Government of the people responsible for generating black money whicl:­ by the industralists and for the in dus­ is the cause of our winning elections. But now triaHsts. " when we are stopping it, they raise the same old cry. I think nothing could be more admir­ So, this is quintessence of this Bill. The able than the presentation of this Bill. I Government it already for the industrialists wholeheartedly support the Bill which will but not totaHy of the industrialists. So, again give us a cleaner political and national life the doors are kept open for them. Naturally, and bring a 'sustained democracy in the the question of clean pubHc 1ife arises. I country. With these words I conclude. Thank am not going to quote that again. That will you. take time. Mr. Kurup has already said what Mr. Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed, the then SHRIMATJ GEETA MUKHERJEE Mi'1ister of Industrial Development and (Panskura) : Sir, there are different sections Company Affairs said at that time. He said in this Bill. The last two sections are not and I quote - because it is very relevant. controversial. But really they are tagged on to the real section 293A legalising ,company "All kinds of suspicions and doubts donations to political parties. Almost all have were now raised. The reasons for rais­ understood that clubbing together of all these ing them would disappear and it would provisions is rcally to white-wash the real be better both for Government benches intention of section 29)A. I shall not go into and also others feel that the public life other two provisions which are not objec­ was clean and no one was influenced tionable. I shall only refer to 293A which I by any company as far as political strongly oppo~e. The Bill that is now consider­ activity or elections were concerned." ed in this House is really amusing and the reasons for bringing forward this Bill are so This is what the then Minister for Industrial elastic. That is what I think. The very same Development and Company Affairs said in old reasons are given as were given when 1969. Now, what is happening today? Do company donations were earlier banned in you for a clean public life with all the talks 1969. Let me read out the Statement of abo~t "Mr. Clear" '1 Do you find new images objects and Reasons of 1969 Bill which was and all that? We come to know that it is passed in this House. direct contravention of what was said in 1969. I would like to remind this House that the period of 1969 was really much brighter "Such contributions have a tendency period for the Congress for some time. This political life and to adver­ to corrupt is the historical truth which cannot be sely affect healthy growth of democracy reversed. I am sure those who are sitting on in the country". Treasury benches -some youngmen and some old persons are sitting there-are feeling Those were the oi)jects and reasons stated in shame in the heart of their hearts for this Bill. that Bill. All those objects and reasons which Probably they are thinking that after all the were given in 1969 Bj}) are now being main money will be coming to the Central advanced to prodaim company donations. ruling party having the reigns of power firmly The very same thing is being said again to in their hands. Therefore, again for exigencies, re·introduce company donations. This is pragmatism or opportunism they are not in a pl.)1itical expcdieo(;y or opportunism on now .. position to open their months. That is the 341 Companies /Jill VAlSAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Componil's Bill 342 real situation. But I would can spade a spade holders, because white money wiJJ have to be and thoroughly oppose this Bill. donated first. That because it wiU be on re­ cord. When permits or licences are to be Somebody was. saying that we were taking issued, they would ask : "What is your record money under the table etc. Perhaps Shri Das in regard to this 1" Therefore, their record Munshi was saying that. As far as my party for contribution to the ruling party has to be is concerned. we are completely free from it. there in any case. Further, it is Dot only do­ But that is not my contention. nations to political parties, the Bill says donation for any political purpose to a per­ SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNS!: son is also allowed. You take the white nloney in the name of political parties as I ha ve not accused your party. also any political person for any political SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: purpose. Then take the black oloney under That is very good. Shri P"nika was saying the table. The field is wide open. that this was a historic occasion and the Therefore, any political person with any companies should contribute for the democ­ political purpose can go for company ratic life of the country. If you were so con­ donations. What is the difficulty? The cerned for such contributions to political life, shareholders will not only be burdened with why did you not accept Shri Wanchoo's re­ white contribution, on the top of it, they will commendation where he said that a fund of be burdened with three, four or five times of contributions made hy companies bc created black money contribution, and altogether a and that be distributed among all politica I much larger amount will flow to the Central parties on prt.J rata basis according to their ruling party. last election results. I ~yself would not even agree to that. I do not believe in company donations to the political parties. But if you Therefore, I think, it is better to call were so serious in their participation, you spade a spade. Th is ~s an attempt of not could have very well taken Shri Wanchoo's cleaning the public life, but openly proclaim .. suggestion, but then that would have defea· ing uncleaned practices in the pub) ic life. ted the purpose to a great extent. I t is, there· That is the real purpose .of the Bill; it is fore, very clear that this measure regarding abhorring and should be dismissed. company donations has been brought in the new turn of history that you are trying to take, where you do not think that old glzoon­ SHRI SALAUDDIN (Godda) : I wei· ghats are needed any more. We call it ghooll­ come this Bill. It is very progressive and will ghata in West Bengal. You do not need it push up the morale of the share-holders as any more. But say it c1ear1y and do not try well as the labourers. This Bill will improve to confuse the people, because nobody is a)) aspects of a company·s workin,- (1) such a fool as to think that you are bring­ structure of a company, (2) labourer, and (3) ing this Bill for cleaning the public life. shareholder. Some of the Hon. Members pro .. Therefore, I thoroughly oppose this Bill. tested against this BilL But according to my view, structure of the joint stock company is I definitely believe that there are people democratic in character and nature. Share.. on the other side, who also feel like this, but holders are the masters, they are the policy .. they may not be able to speak, though they makers and as per the Companies Act of must be feeling differently. For them 1 real1y 1956, they have the voting right. The share ... have compassion and sympathy. holders play an important role in the com .. pant's affairs. This Amendment Act will tone up the structure or the joint stock companies. They say tha't by this black money will In particular I would like to mention that be curbed. This is really a very new theory the status of the labourers in the preferential that you have projected for chasing black list of a liquidated company has risen higher. money. You do not have a political wjIJ, and In case of amalgamation of a company, the after being a thorough failure in chasinlt the slructure of the joint stock company will black money, now you have decided that the definitely change and the management or ,I way to chase money and root it best b1ack company will run further smoothly wit~out out is to directly take company donations. any hindrance. This would be a areat burden on the sbare .. 343 Compatlles BiJI MAY 16, 1985 Companies lJiil

(Shri Salauddinl welcome tbis Bill. With these words, I con­ clude lny speech. The third section of 293 (a) regarding eontribution of companies to the political [English] parties is a controversial issue. But there is no way out. I know that it is a much more PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE difficult case, but side by side, it is all the (Rajapur) : Mr. Chairman: I do not want to more necessary. take much of the time of the House; but I may say only this much : wbile the ban on [Translation] Company donations is being removed, I am .. reminded about the two parallel economies . Sorrte Members of the opposition parties that have been runnjng in the country. In a , specially those belonging to West Bengal are different sense, we are a n1ixed econdmy- we opposing it. I know that the Members of have the official economy in the country, and C.P.M. accept nloney openly from these as once the late Finance Minister Mr. Y. B. companies. This is an accepted fact. But Chavan said, we have a parallel black money they are saying that only the Members of the economy in the country. Congress.Party take money. The Members of C.P.M. extract money by force, by threaten­ ing and by coercion. This is an admitted As far as donations in the elections are fact. These people pressurise the companies. concerned, there will in future be two parallel They con1pel them to pay money. They put economies: one will be the donations which officially handles in the way of the industrialists. They will be recorded in Company by ask the workers to go an strike and indte Accounts by which, dint of the Bill that Act them. The workers arc not harassed so much will be converting itself into ari today, the political parties will be able to get white by management U'5 tht!y arc harassed by the members of the C. P. M. They are very money. Commensurate with the white money vocal here. They have got a right to speak that each party will get, there will be a corres­ be here. I am also exercising my right to speak ponding amount of black money that win here. there. Therefore, in a strange way, we will be ha ving a mixed economy in our elections. This Bill has been brought forward to obviate their coercion, threats and use of This is not a very strange thing. force. This Bill has been brought forward so that nobody could threaten anyone, We 17.27 hi-so are not doing this for ourselves. This is for the welfare of all the people [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Clio",]

Sir: you have come at the appropriate OUf intention is to have a check on moment. In what we caJl as the mother of black money through this Bill. Parliaments, i.e. the House of Comnl0ns, for the last several years there is not a single (Ellglish) election petition, and the elections are fair and free, where neither the Conservatives have That is the very best progressive step ever complained against the Labourites, nor taken by this Government. have the Labourites ever complained against the Conservatives; nor the Communists have [Translation] complained against both the Conservatives and the Labourites. But even in such a Amalganlation is related tn strw:turc. Many parliamentary democracy, which is tbe evils have crept into to: I;,t ructure t('duy mother of democracies, a number of years and as a result of amalgam tion. the structure hack, i.e. in the 18th century, it was has deteriorated very mUl'h. The weaker just a trade a financial barter. Since it will companies the sick units, the inefficient be of interest to this House, Prof. Ranga, companies and units· which have lagged I will read out a very interesting survey as behind in the competition would get to what used to happen in the 18th century a new lease of life and they could enter the in the House of Commons elections to the market and start production. 1 therefore. British Parliament: :\45 Companies Biil VAlSAld:IA 26, 1907 (SAKA) Companie~' Iti" 346

"Some years back, the BBC put out garoation of companies on which there can a series of features on the working be no difference - what we are doio8 by and history of the British Parliament. removing the ban on companies, you are One of these features recounted this trying to Jegailise illegal'things. For instance. interestina episode about the House jf you feel that in spite of probation, the of Commons during the 18th century: cottage industry grows and in vilJages and "In the early eighteenth century, a small towns, near sea side, I'he manufacture particularly obstreperous Member of of liquor is going on, rather than sayinl Parliament replied in these terms to that we are discontinuing Ihis, you say that his constituents who had written to by law, we have opened drinking to all the him asking him to vote against the citizens. Through it is vice, you say we are budget " removing prohibi tion. All tba t you are doina is that you have found that in spite of your The voters said: 'Vote against the. Budget'. laws, donations are coming and donations The survey goes on : don't come to auyone. After all, there is a sense of proportion. Industrialists and " .• , "Gentlemen", he said, "I have monopolists are most balanced men in the received your letter about the excise • country. They know how a baJance between and I am surprised at your insolence various parties to be retained? Therefore, in writing to me at all. You know, they know those who n1onopolise power, and I know, that I bought this costi .. the monopolists have to 'n10nopoJise their tuency. You know, and I know, that health. Therefore, they go on extending I am now determined to sen it. And mor~ help to them; and you will find you know what you think I don °t tonlorrow, even after this Bill becomes an know, that you are now looking for act and when it is implemented, if you just another buyer; I know what you tlnd out from the company account of ce~tainly don't know, that) have various companies as to how much dona­ found another constitv.ency to buy i" tions they have given to parties X, Y and Z. then you can ahnost build a formula that This was what was happening. five times of that amount shown in the account wHl be the actual amount that "Buying and selling of Par) iamentary will be given to that party outside the constituencies in Britain was no excep­ company's account and that is how the tion then. It was almost a rule. Scats parallel black - money will exist side-by­ were actually advertised for sale­ side with the actual donations coming in the or even hire-in the papers. A Hansard companies. Therefore, you will be puttina publication, Our Parliament, by actually a premium in the vice. Now, we Strathearn Gordon notes: "Between are trying to approach the probJem in the 1812 and' 1832, £5000 to £6000 was wrong way. The intentions are best. But the ordinary price of a scat purchased remember the road to hell "ill always be for P~r1iament, or £1800 if rented paved with best intenti::>Ds and they are for a year." nlasters in having best intentions and in having capacity to go to hen. Therefore, So, that was the position in the mother with the best of intention, they arc takina of the Parliaments because in those days. the connlry to hell. I am only sayins about some barons and landlords forrneft limited this and not otherwise. What wiJl be the constituencies and some had controlled the net effect of this '1 What is the basic problem ropes. They used to put up a board UConsti­ that you don't tackle-unfair eJectjons, tuencies for auction". Bidders used to come. growth of moral power, arowtb of money Some one would say 3000, other would say power, growth of muscle power, Jl'owtb of 4000, third would say 5000 and he would machinery power. All these are only symp­ ahout one, two and three-SOOO-and a toms of a disease; tbey arc not a disease constituency was sold. That is how the itself. Your man power is not disease. But corruption took place. I am reminded about what is happenina at the root that is disease. that episode . today • Today, you are trying The corrupt tendencies are disease and ·to remove the ban on donations and there therefore if you want really to undertake what we propose to do-I am not touching this partic.utar measure to see t"at actually all tho aspects rcprdilla worker's amal .. 341 Companies Bill MAY 16,1985 Companies Bill 348

[Prof. Madhu Dandavate] a gist of their election campaign, pro­ grammes-ail those are circulated by them. evil practices are redu~ed, then merely remo­ viog the ban on co;npd.nies' donations will And as a result, the election becomes cheap. not solve the problem. You go to the root That is why just with 15 or 20 days' notice of the problem; and if you go to tbe root they are able to hold the elections in the of the problem, then what the former Chief. U.K., and therefore the eJections become very Election Commissioner has suggested is that cheap. States funding of elections create a fund of hundreds of crores for five years. You So, let us go to the root of the problem prescribe a limit that those candidates who as to how the elections are to be made cheap. for feit their deposits, their expenditure Not that we make the elections costly .and will not be borne by the government at all; make provisions in the Coml'any Law to see but those who will rctain their security only that enough money will be available from the their expenditeure will be borne. You fix companies for the donations. We are going up the parametre; and once you have the exactly in the wrong direction therefore, rather States funding of elections, you can also try than going to the root of the problem. The another experimnt that is in West Germ any . tragedy of our country is political parties, where they have fixed a particular percentage; instead of going to the root of the problem, these parties which get percentage of votes they touch it at the surface only and as a above a parti_;ular minimum fixed, they wHl result of that every solution of the problem be entitled to get subventions from the is a tinkering of the problem-not solving the government. And once that is declared then probiem at the root level. That is exactly what there is a family planning of political parties is happcnina in this country. Otherwise. on the They also feel tha t if you want to finance face of it this is a very innocuous legislation their election, rather than having many and some of them who have not gone through parties, they can become one party. We the implications and studied as to what have a country in which if there arc two happens in the country, they say that it is an MIAs, together they form three political admirable dTort. But when they start its imple­ parties. That is the state of spectacle we are mentation, and when some in power go to the having in the country. Because we have this opposition and some in the oPt1osition go to pattern that parties getting the vote beyond power, then they will realise what exactly the a particular percentage will be entitled for implications of this particular company law subvention from the the Government, the are. And. thercfore. I would prefer the State natural tendency among the small political funding of election rather than funding of the parties will not be to multiply more and election of the parties by the companies and more like India's population, but the process if you allow the fund ing of the election by will be a process of polarisation. It will the companies, remember that the busi'ness­ not be a process of fission but it will be a man is a very shrewd and intelligent animal. process of fusion. More and nlore small I am saying it in the sense of a rational parties will come together; because they animal. Mun is also described and defined as will like to be entitled to get subvention a rational animal. In that sense only 1 am from the Government and thereby indirectly saying that the businessman and industrialist the multiplicity of the parties will be elemi­ is a very ingenious animal and what does that oated and as a result a stabilised democracy animal do 1 Whenever they give a donation can be achieved and at the same time they treat it as an investment and the first because they get above a particular percentage principle of investment is invest only in that they aet the subvention, at the same time you particular industry from which you will be can put a clear rider that once you get ~tate able to plough back D lot. And, therefore, funding of elections beyond that you will remember my friends! Whether we belong to not be required to spend at all. the Jaoata or whether we belong to the Congress Party. once we allow the companies In England, lot of expenditure -- Mr. to invest, not in machinery. not in plants. not R.anaa you and I are incurring this already­ in dams, not in the various projects, but in is taken over by the State. Cards arc sent to elections and in the political parties, then the the individual electorate by the Government. investor wiJI try to get back through the invest­ A brief note about every candidate is mentio­ ment a considerable amount of Plough back ned, on the card. Brief propqanda campaip, and tbat is wbat these people win be doiq. 349 Companies Bill VAISAKHA 26. 1907 (SAKA) Companies Bill 350

All said and done. if some company magnate jf Prof. Ranga were to feel otberwise-I do bas h~lped me a lot, if some monopolist has not allege that he feels otherwise-he cannot belped me a lot, it is a human psychology forget that he is the Deputy Leader of tbe that jf it is found out that be is involved Congress Party. Of course, he is the Deputy in a fraudulent practiCe t I must .tell you that Leader in the year when they are celebra­ even my tendency will be to see that even if I do ting the centenary of the Congress Party. not speak in favour of him I do ~ot say any­ 7.1/2 years young girt is claiming that she thing against him, at least remain quiet and is hundred years. Of course, Rangaji is old I become a silent spectator of the fraudulent enough. But even the youngers are sayins practices that are conducted by the monopolist that they are of ]00 years of age. On this and industrialist. It is not only the psycho­ occasion they are Iike1y to pass these mea­ logy of the opposition but also the ruling sures with their majority. I have no grouse party_ Even if we, on the opposition, get against them. Even if we were in majority,. Iakhs and lakhs of rup~cs from a paricular we would have passed all of them with the industrialist X or Y, my tendency in the brute majority. But this being the situation House will not be to expose him but to I only provoke them by saying that' today expose only that industrialist from whom I if you want to pass it with your majority, have not got even a farthing so that he will pass it, but at least at some stage let your not be able to say against eith~ r inside the conscience be roused and let you be driven House or outside. Therefore, even our hattIe to the hasic thinking of State funding of against inequalily will suffer, our battle against elections and when you start doing it you some of the atfluent sections will suffer and will find that this is only tinkering with the our battle against industrialists and mono­ problem and what is really needed IS facing polists will suffer. the prohlem and solving the problem. Only in that context, J am not interested in this Bill. This is a measure on which you can neither vote for nor against. What is there in PROF. N. G. RANOA (Guntur): Mr. it ? Of course, I do not accept it. Our opposi­ Deputy Speaker, Sir, I· must confess tbat tion is not for petty reasons but for deep­ 1 am provoked to speak at this stage by rooted reasons. Therefore, taking advantage the speeches made by Geeta Ji and aJso by of the discussion on this Bill 1 will make an Dandavate Ji. The positive proposal that earnest appeal to, the Minister that with your they have su~gcstedJ ] agree with that. It majority you wiJI always carry the Bill, be­ has always been a practice in West Germany. cause if you try to tighten the MRTP Act, There they have made it necessary for the people from your side will say that it is an State to make constrihutions to various admirable progressive measure and if you try political parties according to the votes that to relax the limit from Rs. 20 crares to Rs. they are able to gain from the people in 100 crores, the same people in their speeches the election. In that manner they have made will say that it is the wonderful pragmatic it easier for their political parties to be sure step tha t the development process in the of their politica] funds for fighting the country can increase. Therefore, my humble eJections; if not to meet the whole of it. suggestion to the Minister is that with your at least a major part of it. To that extent majority you are going to pass it. You, as the J am in agreement with them. I have been presiding authority, in one breath, are going hoping that time would be taken by our to say those for and those against and the Government as well as the Opposition parties Bill is palised. You will not wait for to count to have discussions among thC'mselves and how many for and how many against. reach some con~ensus when tbis kind of a sug~stjon was made by the Election MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Jf you Commission. But unfortunately, no such demand that, definitely I w.iIJ have to wait effort has been made so far. I hope that for. Y effort would be made as soon as possible and it would be possible for all the political PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I do parties to come to some agreemtnt in reprd not blame you. All that I am saying is that in to that matter. our present party structure, the consensus is already nationalised and it is not a The second point on which I am it, questi9n of eJtertiliB a conscience vote. Even agreement witb Professor Daadavate i. i f 351 Companies Bill MAY 16, 1985 Companies Bill 352

(Shri N. G. Ranga] do it, they would be able to get tbe com­ panies to contribute to several parties-those such a system were to be adopted, then who are on the side of the roiling party, there would be an effective incentive for 80 those who arc on tbe side of the Opposition many fractionai parties to come together parties also. and then form themselves into groups or parties in their way towards the development of a bipartisan system, as they have in They alone are not experts in Bnsland or in America. But just as its now, forming the Opposition plrties as opposed the very leader of Dandavate's party is to the ruling party, the Congress. For some unwilling to take an initiative in helping years I was also in the Opposition. I have ~he other political parties to come together had some experience also, the kind of bitter among themselves and then forming into experience that sonle of them who are honest, some kind of a viable political party. Under have been having and the experience I had these circumstances, we are bound to have as to how difficult it is to get any kind of all these fractional parties that we have. donation from anybody. But I have known I am rather amused that my Hon. friend one or two, I think, very honest people who Geeta Mukherjee, who looks so slale and had the moral courage to tell the then ruling old, has suddenly turned 'out to be a hand­ party that they were going to contribute to some damsel. Now 1 can understand how both - to the party that I was then represen­ she is able to manage to get herself elected ting and a Iso to the ruling party. When again. She is a b it of an actress also, .•• the ruling party leader asked them "why are ( Interruptions) you doing this 1" one man said we believe in democracy where there should be Opposi­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: She tion. Since you are the ruling party and is a damsel in distress also. since you have three fourths control, there­ fore, three lakhs of rupees for you: and PROF. N. G. RANOA: I wish to since they have got control on only one assure her that jt is not only herself, there forth, we are giving them one lakh of are others also on this side. We can go on rupees. Another gentleman who was best ridiculing each other but nevertheless we of the tycoons. said : if we do not contribute can remember who is black, the pot or the to them, they will blackmail us. If we do kettlc. All have gone through the same not contribute to you, you create trouble experience of expediency, of collections under through your bureaucracy. So, we contribute the table, below the table and above the to both. Has the same not been within table also. your experience individually and otherwise? Do you not know that it is happening? My Hon. friend from this side Is it not because you have gained control has touched upon a very important point over the whole of the working class involved which is involved in this that it is not only in a concern or in a big company or a part the companies and their managers and their of it, and so you a re able to collect tltrough directors and their tycoons. as OUf friends blackmail or whatever it is or through would like to call them, who are going to persuasion. It is a fact? These are the things vote in regard to these company donations tha t are happening. We are going througb but also the workers, because we ar~ going a~l this. What about our experience in regard in for progressive development of what is to our elections. known as workers' participation in the com. panics· management. So. they will also have SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: their sbare in tak.ing their decision as to Rangaji, wicked people say that due to the how much should be contributed, by which fact that the Swatantra Party was getting company. in what proportion, to their profits money at that time, the Congress Party ~ i,, ~ or their losses or their transactions. That 1969 brought the earliar Bill. Is it you. ' would be an open opportunity fOf the experience too having been in the Swatantra workers themselves and whoever represents Party? the workers. The Communists claim to represent them, we also claim to represent them.. Therefore. it is an opportunity for PROF. N. O. RANOA: I am not able them to assert themselves. And when they to hear you, 353 Compallies Bill VAISAKHA 26, 1907 (SAKA) 354 ," ",' PROF. '. MADHU ,DANOAVATE.~ PROF. N. G. RANOA: Let us be Repeat it, he has not followed you. honest with ourselves. J am not trying to score points. I am only try ins to PROF. N. O. RANOA: Please, it is persuade people because 1 am on the way no ,good trying to speak with our tooguejn towards development of a consensus, as I our cheek. I do not want to touch any have already told you. I did not like the delicate. spot of anybody, but let us be reference that was made by our friend, Prof. honest with ourselves. Madhu Dandavate- I expe~ted sonlething better from him-to Mr. Purc. I can tell (Interrupt io ns) you, so far as my e:xpeJ icnce goes .. , PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Prof. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I Ranga, is that the norm that you follow referred to 'Dirty men'. I never referred to t!ven when males arc speaking? 'Puret

PROF. N. G. RANOA: Dandavate Ji, PROF. N. G. RANGA : Perhaps, Mrs. you have covered such a big ground that I Geeta Mukherjee referred to it. cannot now hope to finish nlY speech within the next six minutes that I wish to My experience shows that a genuine take. effort is being made. Let us appreciate that. h may be only a step. Nevertheless we are Now, one thing is this. He said, why are moving in the right direction. You cannot you satisfied with this tinkering? Now, my deny that. When you move in the right Hon. friend has referred to what is known as direction, jf you go on shouting like this, Pocket Boroughs in England. 1 have gone fighting like this and ridiculing, people will through aJl that history and I have also naturaJly become shy and we will not be gone through the Congress electioneering able to move further in that direction. I here in our country. At one time we needed want all political parties to move as fast as only Rs. 5,000/- for our Constituency. Now, possible towards as much of purity as I do not know how much, but not Jess than possible in public life. And it is a very Rs. 5 lakhs. Where fronl it is to come '? good contribution because here you have It has got to come from somewhere. Leave got the worker s as well as employers. :poth that aside. In England in order to enable workers as well as capitalists w()uld have the working class to play' their honourable the chance and they would be able to make role in public life, they have imposed what up their OVdl mind. It is quite fossiblc that is known as "politiral contribution" from we may come across such a possibihty, su(;h the workers. It has had its own history also. an experience, that the opposition may and Every worker at one time mainly because so they might get 25 per cent contributions he joined a union and the Union decides in while the ruling Party may get 75 per cent. favour of voting for the Labour party, had Slowly it may come to fifty-fifty. We are to contribute a particular sum to their labour not going to oppose a development like that. fund. Afterwards. when the Conservative Party You are asking for workers' participation. You are going to get your chance. Apart came int they said it is not only the Union which has got to decide, every worker who from all these things, is it not a fact that wants to make a contribution should also the political parties are getting money not decide. In t"at way they have progressed to only from our own people in cur own such an extent that on the whole it is free country but from outside also? Are ,we not from too much corruption. There is some bandying charges one against the other in corruption everywhere. My Hon. friend various Legislatures as welJ as Parliament? here w: th his hands on his beard was saying And at the same time are we ... not carrying outside: what is it under the table and over on 'l In spite of alJ these troubles, we are the table. black and white money and so on ? moving towards progress. I have had the These things an: bouqd to happen. They experience of these thing..~ since 1930. In would be there .. (/nlerrllptions). 1930 I was elected unopposed. In 1931 I was defeated. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mehbub­ 17.58 bn. nag.lrJ : 'Black' win continue to be there. We need 'white', to whitewash the black. (MR. SPEAKER In the Choir] 3SS D~alh 0/ Member MAY 16. 1985 D~QI" of Mt",be, 356 j

[Prof. N. Q. R~naal .. , ~ .. Hon. Members, Shri ~jrdhari Lal from 'Bijnor, Uttar Pradesh, a 'veteran 'Member, As I have', been. saying to people, I do ha s passed away. As. a mark of respect, I not think there is any Member here' who·has adjourn the House. The ohituary reference been defeated . as mnny times as I was and 'will be nlade tomorr.ow .. But.- before we who has been"'re'·elected a Iso as many times adjourn. the House will 'stand in silence as I was. I . have .. had all these innings.' I for a short while as a mark of, respect-.for know how we moving. We mov.ing are are bis memory. towards progress, towards more and more purtty· and, tess of self· deceit. Therefore .. . MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Ranaa, please (The Members then stood in silence resume your seat. I have to, make an . for a short while.) announcem~~ t. '.

MR. SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to reassemble at 11.00 a.m. 17.59 hrs. tomorrow .

. DEATH OF MEMBER 1H.OO hrs.

[E,agli~llJ] (The Lok Sabha then adjourned till , MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I Eleven of the Clock on Friday, May 17, have just received the news that' one of our 1985/ Vaisakha 27, 1907 (Saka).)