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Sydney, N.S.W. 2001 First Car Produced In Nova Scotia
by William H. McCurdy
Photographs courtesty Mrs. M. W. Fenton, S. M. MacKenzie, L. J. Archibald, C. R. Pelton.
For many years, Nova Scotia has been known for being Scotia Legislature of 1899. This company, as the name the greatest exporter of brains in Canada. Many of the suggests, was formed for the purpose of manufacturing senior officials of companies in Canada, (and the United horse drawn carriages, sleighs and slovens, of all sizes, States), originally came from this part of the world. shapes and models. But little known, even in this part of Canada, is the fact At this time, of course, the automobile was becoming a that shortly after the turn of the century, Nova Scotia had practical piece of machinery and was growing every day, as its own automobile industry. the dreams of the earlier manufacturers began to come Even more interesting, is the fact that, from the record, true. some $2,000,000 was raised, at one point, for a factory that The Nova Scotia Carriage Company prospered for a sagged at one corner before it was ready to open. And time, but business started to slaken off as more and more despite a superlative automobile that won race after race, automobiles were on the highways and byways of Nova the doors were closed for good 24 months later. Scotia. Since the automobile division of the Nova Scotia Car riage Company began around 1910, it has been difficult for me to get all the facts about the enterprise, but with the ENTERED MOTOR CAR PRODUCTION information I have been able to obtain, I shall attempt to relate the history of the company. In 1908, Jack and Dan McKay, then living in Kentville, When I began my research on the McKay car, the only but originally from nearby Prince Edward Island, rented information I had to go on was the surname of the owners, the facilities of the Nova Scotia Carriage Company for the the name of the plant in which they worked and a small list purpose of manufacturing automobiles, as well as carrying of names of people who were thought to be able to shed on the carriage trade. some light on the car, the men and the company. The son of But though the McKay brothers proved adept at secur Archie Pelton was able to impart a fund of information on ing financial backing, they still needed the invaluable all these subjects. Also, the test driver of the company's services of a man with production knowhow, as well as a operation in Amherst, Scott MacKenzie has given me general knowledge of the automobile. And for this, they valuable information on the hi story of the car and the turned to one of the few men of those days learned in the company. intricacies of the early "one Iunger" engines. In this history, several people will be mentioned as Archie Pelton was born in Berwick, a few miles from having participated in the activities of the McKay brothers. Kentville, and after some schooling, moved to the United There are perhaps some I have left out, who will readily States to work for a company that manufactured weaving come to mind to someone reading this. Any additional machinery. It was Pelton's job to install this machinery, information about the McKay car would be much appre mostly in the New England area, as this was the center of ciated by the author. the textile industry. He then joined the International Harvester Co., before the turn of the century, and returned HISTORY to Nova Scotia to become their service manager for some of their farm machinery. The machines that were shipped It all began, when, in 1868, a group of businessmen in to Nova Scotia came equipped with one cylinder gasoline Kentville, 70 miles from Halifax, got together and formed engines. It was at this time that Pelton learned the principle the Nova Scotia Carriage Company. It was later in of the internal combustion engine. He carried on in this corporated under Chapter 151 of the Acts of the Nova work until1904.
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Nova Scotia Carriage & Motor Car Co. Ltd. Plant at Amherst
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A McKAY CAR OF 1913 had a bulbous horn, white tires, genuine leather seats. The cost was $2,300 f.or a seven-passenger touring car. 12
In the spring of that year, Archie Pelton, along with a Engineering consultants were brought from New York Mr. Porter of Kentville, a successful merchant, went to the to determine whether the building could be made safe, and first Automobile Show in New York City. Here they after careful study, it was decided to doubly reinforce the bought two Curved Dash Oldsmobiles and had them sagging corner with concrete, thus making it possible to shipped back to Nova Scotia. These were the first two cars begin manufacturing. in the province, for resale. In 1904, there were 15 other cars in the province, but these had been bought by their owners PLANT MOVES TO AMHERST in the United States. Pelton had never driven a car up to this point, but when It was not until the winter of 1912-1913 that the the cars arrived in Berwick, he drove one of them to a barn machinery used to build the cars was moved to Amherst. in Kentville, and completely dismantled it. As he was Even when they began production, parts of the building putting it back together again, he found out what made it were still jacked up to compensate for the sagging side. tick. Both of these cars were later brought into Halifax and Large elevators were used to convey the car, in its various sold. (This, incidentally, was the beginning of the first car stages, from one floor to the other. dealership in the province. From this time until 1925, Pelton became the distributor for Franklin, Gray Dort, DEALERSHIPS PLANNED Studebaker, Oldsmobile, Chalmers, Gardner and the Cole 8 among others.) In 1911, the year before the company moved from But it was not until about 1910 that the McKay brothers Kentville, Dan McKay, the Sales Manager, along with began seriously to get down to the business of automobile Archie Pelton, drove one of their 1911 production cars manufacturing. The car that they finally decided to pro 2600 miles from Kentville to Regina, Saskatchewan. The duce, was fashioned after the Penn car, manufactured in purpose of this trip was to set up dealerships all across Pennsylvania, from 1911 to 1913, with, of course, local Canada as they journeyed to Regina. Dealerships were modifications. planned for Port Elgin, N.B.; Montreal, Toronto, London, Since Pelton had no engineering background, he went to Saskatoon, Edmonton, Calgary, Yeardon, Moosejaw and Detroit and contacted E. T. Birdsall, then president of the other western towns. Meanwhile, there already was a American Association of Automobile Engine~rs. On Bird dealer in Halifax. As far as can be ascertained, these sall's advice, Pelton bought Buda engines, Bendix rear dealerships were never set up, but the car that was used in ends, and all the other smaller parts that went to make up this trip was purchased in Saskatoon and later sold to a the chassis for the car. He purchased enough parts for 25 Service Station in Medicine Hat to be used as a service car. cars. Besides this car, there were at least four cars that were sold When these parts were shipped back to Kentville, and by a dealer in Saskatoon. assembled, the personnel of the carriage works set about (Pelton used to recall, years later, that the car they drove making the bodies for the cars, Pelton's brother, Roy, to Regina, carried Kentville air in its tires, to the western being a master cabinet maker, and another cabinet maker, city. According to him they carried three spare tires and did named Young, were in charge of building the wooden not require more than these to get to Regina. frames, and fashioning the metal to form the body. At a (He also recalled to his family, years after he left the later date in the car's development, the frames were also Nova Scotia Carriage Company, some of the problems metal. By this time, another McKay brother, Stan, arrived encountered in the manufacture of an automobile. There is from Prince Edward Island to begin work at the factory. By one story of the drive shafts for the first McKay cars. After profession he was a blacksmith. the frames were assembled, the engines mounted and the rear ends placed on the chassis, it was discovered that the GROWTH OF COMPANY drive shafts for these cars were too short. It was therefore necessary to have the local foundry, Lloyd's Foundry and In the first four years of the Nova Scotia Carriage Machine Shop, make proper fitting shafts. Periodically, Company, more carriages, sleighs and slovens were pro this foundry was called on to help out in the manufacture of duced, than automobiles. However, in 1912, a group of the McKay car. businessmen in Amherst, Nova Scotia, 220 road miles (Another story involved the wheels for the automobiles. away, successfully interested the McKay brothers in relo When the first three cars were completely assembled, the cating the company's facilities there. Amherst, at this time, wheels were also found to be the wrong size. As a result, was making a bid as the industrial center of Nova Scotia these cars sat on blocks at the factory for about three shades of modern community boosting. weeks, awaiting the arrival of the right size wheels, before A new company was formed, the Nova Scotia Carriage the cars could be taken out of the plant to be tested.) and Motor Car Co. Ltd., and construction of a large plant was begun. The building was 340' by 60' and four stories high. It was designed by the firm of Lockwood, Greene & WORK BEGINS IN AMHERST Co., of Boston. Local contractors built the building and shortly before its completion, a corner of it started to sag When the building in Amherst was finally completed, badly. This made it impossible for the motor car works to and ready to receive the McKay operation, all the partially move to Amherst and set up production, until the building built cars, along with all the spare parts were loaded on could be reinforced to carry the heavy machinery involved. boxcars to be shipped from Kentville.
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~OTOI! CAR~ 1912 The Penn Pirate
Penn motor cars for I9I2 come in 5 models, covering the entire field, and meeting every demand of the shrewd dealer. Two handsome roadsters, choice of shrouded dash or fore door, 105 inch wheel base, 32 inch wheels, 30 H. P. motor, selective type, sliding gear transmis sion, three speeds forward and reverse, handsome lamp equipment and beautifully finished at $woo. :'\ 30 H. P. touring car, fore door, three speed selective type, sliding gear transmission, beautifully finished, powerful, snappy and dependable at $ I IOO. A torpedo fore door roadster, 45 H. P., annular ball bearing transmission, I IS inch wheel base, 34 inch wheels, handsome lamp equipment, Presto t ank and trunk; a powerful, speedy, hi gh grade car at $ I350. A 5-passenger, fore door, full torpedo, touring, 45 H. P. motor, annular ball bearing transmission, pyramid aluminum foot and running boards, Presto tank, etc. A car that ought to sell for double the price - at $ I400. A line complete in itself- a money maker for any live dealer
Immediate deliveries on all 30 H. P. models; 45 H. P. models ready Octo bu· 15th. PENN MOTOR CAR CO. 7 51 0 Thomas Boulevard Pittsburgh, Pa.
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Once at Amherst, the McKays continued to carry on MARKET OPENS IN PRINCE EDWARD building carriages and sleighs, but decided to get down to ISLAND business and build "hundreds of autombiles." They could see the day when they would be building I ,000 cars a year There is a story, told by Mr. MacKenzie, of the first with I ,500 employees. Up to this point there were only McKay cars on Prince Edward Island. For eight years about 50 workers and the total production of cars had before July 15, 1913, automobiles were banned from that amounted to 25, all at the Kentville site. province, since it was noted for its horses and horse racing. It is reported that the residents of the Island and not the AUTO RACES horses were more afraid of the motor car! On this date, two McKay cars left Amherst, one driven by MacKenzie and Soon after the new plant began operation, an out-of-the the other driven by one of the McKay boys and arrived on province automobile manufacturer challenged the McKay the Island. They were beaten out, by a few hours, by a car to a race at the local race track. However, at the last Buick. McKay felt that to be one of the first cars on the minute, the challenger did not appear and the McKay Island would be a good opportunity for further sales of the driver, a Mr. Beacraft, mechanical superintendent of the car. MacKenzie's job was to teach anybody who bought a McKay factory, asked the company test driver, Scott McKay how to operate and care for the car. MacKenzie, to get out the latest McKay car, and have the At one stage in the development of the McKay car, it was race anyway. Beacraft figured that the hundreds who had necessary to replace a sprocket and a chain that drove the turned up had come to see a race and he would give them generator of the car. It was found that the battery did not one. Beacraft drove his own Torpedo Roadster. Unfortu recharge fast enough and that at night the lights did not nately nobody remembers the outcome of the race. work properly. The job of replacing these parts, for all the During this same time, the Halifax Herald, the capitol cars that had already been sold, was given to Mr. Mac city newspaper, sponsored a race from Halifax to Kenzie. He travelled the province far and wide in order to Yarmouth, 210 miles via the Annapolis Valley, and back locate all the McKays already on the road. by way of the South Shore, another 215 miles. This race was open to all cars and was won by a McKay car, driven by Mr. Beacraft.
CAR SUCCESSFUL- BUT COMPANY NOT McKAY CAR BEING REBUILT This was just before World War I and the McKay car was obviously a complete success. Indeed, from glancing at by Barbara Hinds the prospectus for the new company, in a local newspaper Swedes and Japanese are not the only car builders in in 1912, it looked like theN ova Scotia Carriage and Motor Nova Scotia. Car Co. Ltd. was here to stay. It had been capitalized at Native sons made the first motor cars in the province $2,000,000. As seen by their financial statement, most of before World War I, and they c~illed it the real McKay. this money was to be used for the future expansion of the McKay cars were made from 1908 to 1912 in Kentville, company. However, the company only lasted two years in and from 1912 until 1914 at Amherst, and it was believed its plant at Amherst. It ceased operation in 1914. The First that all the models had long since passed into oblivion and World War was indeed a factor, but the test driver for the the scrap heap. company, Scott MacKenzie, recently opined to me that Halifax printer and publisher William Hue McCurdy, because of the lack of operating capital, the company could antique-car owner, searched the libraries of Nova Scotia in not afford to change their body styles enough to keep up vain to find out about the McKay car. Eventually he did his with the demands of the motoring public. own research among old men who had been employees of the old carriage company, then McCurdy wrote and pub MODELS PRODUCED lished his own booklet, "The McKay Motor Car."
Basically, the company produced two models: the 30 QUEEN OF ROAD H.P. Torpedo Coupe and the 40 H.P. five passenger touring. The coupe sold for $1,450 FOB Amherst and the This month, July 5, was Mr. McCurdy's big D (for larger model for $2,050 FOB Amherst. It can be seen that Discovery) Day, when he first laid eyes on the remnants of a these were fairly expensive cars. Far too expensive, in fact, McKay, queen of the road in 1913. It carried the number for the majority of the motoring public in Nova Scotia. 170 from the production line. From the research that has been done on the McKay car The McKay parts were lying hoisted beneath the rafters by this author, the number of cars that were produced was in a blacksmith's shed on a farm owned by Llewellyn in the vicinity of 125, that is, the combined total at the Westcott of Gaspereau. Kentville and Amherst plants. Since very few cars were McCurdy found five wooden spoked wheels, side cur assembled at Kentville, and the plant only being in produc tains of leather and isinglass, a gas tank, an 18-inch wooden tion for two years in Amherst, this figure seems to be the steering wheel, the column, one head light, jump seats, the most likely one in computing the production of the Nova aluminum body, its hood and a Persian carpet. The parts Scotia Carriage and Motor Car Co. Ltd. are now in a museum warehouse at Mount Uniacke.
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Machine Shop at Amherst Plant 16
ONLY JOURNEY knew where he could find a McKay car. The newspaper came off the press at noon one Saturday Bill McCurdy is now looking for the other parts to make in March. At 2 p.m., a telephone call from Dartmouth told it fit for the road again, although the only journey he him there was a McKay in Mr. Westcott' s barn at proposes to take it on is to the Nova Scotia Science Gaspereau. Museum, Halifax, for the province's posterity. Mr. Westcott's father had bought it new in 1913. That The restoration will be undertaken with antique car buff was the year following Canada's first car race - from Harry Porter, owner of a canary yellow 1927 Cadillac Halifax, down the Valley to Yarmouth and back along the tourer - among others. (There are 45,000 antique car South Shore on hardly one country mile of paved road. enthusiasts in North America.) Already the partners know the whereabouts of a McKay hub cap. The owner will not part with it permanently, but TRACTOR DUTY he will lend it so that four copies can be hand made by Mr. Porter. The Westcott McKay was driven for years. When its A brass McKay name plate has been located in Hants roadster days were done, the aluminum body was hoisted port. It was owned by a former employee of the Nova to the barn rafters and the engine and chassis were used on Scotia Carriage and Motor Car Company Limited at the farm as a tractor. Amherst, who died this year. He left the plate and a McKay In time, the wooden wheels fell off the tractor. The brochure for 1913 to a member of the Halifax Antique Car engine was still good and was sold, but Mr. Westcott's son, Club. Llewellyn, can not remember to whom. McKay car No. 170 will be emblazoned with a copy of The McKay car engine was made in Illinois by the Buda the brass plate on its radiator - if Mr. McCurdy can find engine company, and installed in six different cars and nine one. trucks ... the Apperson Jack Rabbit, the Biddle, the He is looking for a complete McKay chassis, running Hudson .. . gear, rear end, dash board complete with dials, engine and Mr. McCurdy and his partner Mr. Porter, expect to take transmission, horn, side lamps and upper windshield. three years to research and restore the McKay to its former No. 170 was discovered after Mr. McCurdy wrote a splendor, depending on the availability of parts, lying letter to The Chronicle-Herald editor asking if any readers perhaps in barns or sheds in the Maritimes.
THE McKAY CAR
Sir: I would like to thank you very much for your letter of the restoration of your rare vehicle. September 19th. As you pointed out in your history, except for the body, The information that you have sent me on the Penn '30', there is quite an affinity between the McKay and the Penn is most invaluable in the restoration of my McKay. From "30." Even some of the wording in the specifications found the pictures that you have sent me, there does not seem to in ads of the two firms seem similar. be much difference between the two cars, a fact which I You already may have seen some of the following have suspected for a long time. The 1912 Hudson has the references of which I am enclosing photo-copies: same resemblance, from some ads I have seen from the CYCLE & AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL, Hudson Motor Co. May I, 1911, pp. 199-201. I look forward to receiving the newsletter of the Horse CYCLE & AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL, less Carriage Club of America. March, 1911 , pp. 74-75. Again, thank you for your help, and I will keep you McQuay-Norris Piston Ring Catalog, 1917 Edition, p. posted on the progress of the restoration of my McKay. 101. . - W. H. McCURDY 1912 Penn "30" Roadster owned by Clem E. Kornhoff, Halifax, N.S. Canada One Way Street, Wood-Ridge, New Jersey. It is possible that with the help of Mr. Kornhoff, that you could get or • Mr. Gordon Rosekilly has sent to me your HCCA have made needed parts. For example, if his car has a Buda application form which I, too, have endorsed and for engine, perhaps he could give you the model number so that warded to Club Headquarters. you could advertise for one in the HORSELESS CAR I was delighted to receive a copy of your history of the RIAGE GAZETTE. McKay Motor Car. The vehicle called a "sloven" had me Please let us know if we can be of further help. I might stumped until I went to my unabridged dictionary which add that the Penn " 30" is quite a rare make also there being said that it was a Canadian word meaning a low truck or very little information about the car in the automotive dray. literature of the period. I believe that Mr. Kornoff has the It will be a real pleasure to have you as a member of the only intact surviving example. HCCA and we will be happy to do what we can to further Dr. ALFRED S. LEWERENZ
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Coachwork Assembly at Amherst Plant
Dan McKay, Sales Manager. and Archie Pelton, arriving in Regina, Juiy 25th, 1911
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Early Mode I Me Kay -- circa 1911
Late Model McKay-- circa 1914
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SPECIFICATIONS SPECIFICATIONS MODEL T, FIVE PASSENGER MODEL 24, 30 H.P. TORPEDO TOURING $2050 ROADSTER $1450
MOTOR: Long stroke, vertical, 4 cylinder, 4 cycle 4% bore. 3% MOTOR : Long stroke, vertical; 4 cylinder, 4 cycle, cast on bloc, stroke, valves enclosed, 2 bearing crankshaft, extra long valved all on one side and enclosed. crank case and water jacket of No. 12 aluminum. RADIATOR : Extra large, vertical type, honeycomb fins. RADIATOR: Extra large, vertical tubes; honeycomb fins. CLUTCH: Leather cased; pressed steel cone. CLUTCH: Leather cased, pressed steel cone. TRANSMISS ION : Selective type, sliding gear. Three speed TRANSMISSION : Selective type, sliding gear, imported ball forward and reverse. bearings. Three speeds forward and reverse. FRONT AXLE : Drop forged, Beam section. FRONT AXLE: One piece, 1 beam section, special drop forged. REAR AXLE : Vanadian steel, semi-floating type, shaft driven. REAR AXLE: Vanadian steel, full floating type. SPRINGS : Front37 X 17semi-elliptic SPRINGS: Front six 2' ' semi-elliptic. Vanadian steel. Rear 48 x 17 % elliptic. REAR: 48 % x 2 elliptic, semi-elliptic Vanadian steel. WHEELS : 12 1 V." spokes, equipped with universal quick de- WHEEL BASE : 112 inches. tachable rims. WHEELS : 12 1 V. spokes, equipped with quick detachable rims. Tl RES : 32 x 3 V2 quick detachable type. Tl RES: 35 X 4 quick detachable. GASOLINE : Capacity 20 gallons. CARBURET OR : Strom bergs. CONTROL: Standard 17'' mahogany steering wheel, aluminum FRAME: Pressed nickel steel channel section 4 Y, x 2% x 5-32. spiral. spark and throttle lever on top of wheel, foot CONTROL: Standard 18" mahogany steering wheel with alumi- accel11rator on pedal on floor board, new type. num spiral spark and throttle levers on top of wheel, foot BRAKES : Two sets service brakes; external contracting, internal accelerator pedal on floor board. expanding emergency. BRAKES: Two sets service brakes operating through equalizers BEARINGS: Motor is cast of Parson's White Brass and Man to external contracting bands on real wheel. Gear shift and ganese Bronze. emergency brake on inside of door operated by right hand. FRONT WHEELS : Two point ball bearing. DASH: 3 ply mahogany, coil box hood, cells and sight feed oiling REAR WHEELS: Axle Hyatt, high duty roller bearing with system to match. imported ball thrust bearing. IGNITION : High tension system batteries and Brigg's magneto, FRAME : Pressed nickel steel and channel section 4 x 1 %". guaranteed for life, one set of wiring and spark plugs, very DASH: Three ply mahogany. simple. IGNITION : Dual high tension system Brigg's magneto, BODY: Full torpedo, straight line four or five passenger type, guaranteed for life, batteries and magneto, one set of wiring extra high grade upholstering, and thick soft, seMi-pneumat and spark plugs. ic cushions, with 'No. 1 hand-buffed leather, over best cured CARBURET OR: ModelL Schebier. hair. BODY : Two passenger Torpedo Roadster upholstered in No. 1 EQUIPMENT: Self-starter • . guaranteed silk mohair top, wind hand-buffed leather. shield, speedometer. Truffault- Hartford shock absorbers. EQU IPMENT: Self-starter • , prest-o-lite tank, two gas head prest-o-lite tank, two gas head lamps, two side oil lamps, tail lamps, two oil side lamps, tail lamps, horn, sight feed, tools, lamp, full nickel plated, full set of tools, compound pump jack, pump, repair kit. horn, jack tire frogs, tire repair kit, nickel plated foot and robe rail in tonneau. *These specifications were taken from an advertisement in the local newspaper of 1912. However, the test driver informed me * The information on the self-starter again applies to this model that the self-starter was not installed in the McKay car until late as well. 1913or 1914.
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In one of the Coilbox Couriers, club paper of the So. Cal. RG, there appears a page entitled, "Safety Corner", worthy of everyone's attention. It is an excellent pre- tour season President and Mrs. John Stewart of the Auckland, New check list for antique auto and trailer. Check their April Zealand Regional Group, proudly show their beautifully issue. restored 1905 Cadillac runabout. BARTLESVILLE, OKLAHOMA RG LI STS OFFICERS, ACTIVITIES DIRECTOR SCHOENFELD PAYS Word has been received from one of the HCCA's newest VISIT TO AUCKLAND REGIONAL regiona l groups, Bartlesville, Oklahoma, RG, (approximately T en members and their wives of the Auckland R egional, 40 miles due north from Tulsa ). The second installation HCCA m et at the home of member Doug Wood to welcome banquet for the club was held on the evening of February 15 Sylvia and Herb Schoenfeld of M ercer Island, W ashington, at the Holiday Inn. Thirty-two members and guests were who recently spent several weeks in New Zealand. Wood a nd in attendance. Leon Campbell was installed president, fellow member John Stewart had met the Schoenfelds at James D. Dry vice president, Fred D. Wilson secretary the airport on February 24th and from there on it was an treasurer. Richard D . Johnston was M.C. Burton Corn, antique car talkathon. Doug proudly showed his beautifully attorney, was presented a framed honorary charter m em restored, white 1912 Austin touring car. John is the proud bership cer(ificate in appreciation of gratis legal work per owner of a 1905 Cadillac (see pix), and a 1920 S tanley No. formed for the club during its organization in 1967. Past 735. Dick M essenger brought out his 1920 Vauxhall to show President James D. Dry delivered the after dinner speech. the group. One of the subjects of discussion was the 1972 Films of club activities during the year past were shown by International Veteran Car Club of New Zeala nd tour. Plans m embers Johnston, Wilson and Dietzel. Listed as Board of are being made at this early date to even surpass the very Directors for 1969 were Walt Dietzel, chairman; Connie successful International tour several years ago. There are Moore, H erbert B. Carroll, Jr.; Otto DePlois, Jr.; Leon a pproximately 25 membe rs in t he Auckland R egional Group Campbell, and Larry Walden. Tour chairman is Richard D. and they plan for a very active touring season for 1969. Johnson. Tours have been set up for May through Septem Director Schoenfeld commented that the Auckland Group is ber, with the highlight tour for the season set for July 19-20 very hospitable - a fact that Director Clarence Kay, chair as the Grand Tour of the Grand Lake of the Cherokees in man of many overseas HCCA tours, will readily agree. Northeast Oklahoma . Overnight accommodations . on the tour will be at Shan-Gra-La Lodge on the la keshore. Cor KEN'S BARN, SCENE OF respondent Fred Wilson also noted that the club's publica ANNUAL HCCSC FROLIC tion is named "The Bartlesville Back-Fire", with James D. Dry as Editor in Chief. Address: 4007 Wayside Drive, Th_e S?uthern California R egional Group had an evening meetmg m Apnl at ··Ken's Barn", business locale for past BarLlesville, Okla homa 74003. (Club Editors: If you already HCCA President Ken Sorensen. The fl yer not only looked haven't done so, it is suggested that you send a copy of your intriguing, but sounded most enticing, with such adjectives paper to !vir. Dry and start an exchange. SCG) as "Ye HCCSC presents an evening of Feast-Fabrication Frivolity", plus featuring a menu including "Beef Beans WISCONS IN RG SLATES ANTIQUE and Brownies - Come hungry!" Amidst the s wa]~ping of AUTO SHOW AND RACE AT KAUKAUNA yarns and swapping a ntique clothing, there could be no Wisconsin RG correspondent James J. Tews, club vice doubt but what the membership enjoyed a real fun evening. president, reports that for the past two years this club has
HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/May-June 1969 21 been holding a summer event to h elp build up funds for its treasury. This year's 3rd annual event, an antique auto show and race, will be held at the KK Sports Arena in Kaukauna, Wisconsin, on Sunday, June 22, between 1 and 4 p.m. Between 25 and 35 antique autos of the Wisconsin Regional will be participating. Tews, along with activities director Leo LeClair, are in charge of this fun-filled event. Plaques and trophies will be awarded to all participants. According to Tews, KK is the largest a nd most modern racing arena in the Midwest, having an NHRA sanctioned % mile drag strip, and USAC sanctioned liz mile high banked oval for late model stock cars as well. KK is credited with having an interest in all types of autos and their re spective types of events, including this antique auto show and race.
Perenn ia l vi sitors, from Hayward, Cal., t he Archers, seated in their 1917 M odei-T touring, and a friend in the fur coat, beside their " T" Speedster, have driven the entire distance every year to the CCRG for now, ten years - about 300 miles round trip. Who can match this faithful enthusiasm?
antique auto show in Fresno with 100 cars expected at Frontier Chevrolet May 16 -17, with Dick Avakian heading up the arrangements. The big annual club tour June 20-22 will be held in the Sequoia National Park with Bill Phillips in charge. The club also just concluded a most successful shakedown tour that took the group into the Madera foot hills to Knowles and a visit to the Raymond Granite Quarry.
SAN RAFAEL NEWSLETTER TELLS OF MANY INTERESTING EVENTS Besides having participated in the recent Santa Clara Valley RG annual "Blossom Tour" the membership of the San Rafael Regional have been satisfying their appetites in M ore brass than we have seen a long time showed up at th~ horseless carriaging with many fine events and programs. CCRG swap meet in M adera. The club saw some excellent movies of famous auto races of the period of 1902-1910 at the home of Dick and Diane CENTRAL CALIFORNIA HOLDS Harms, at their April 24th meeting. On May 3rd the group ITS lOth ANNUAL SWAP MEET toured the local area for an old fashioned picnic at the The biggest and best swap meet ever in Central California Harm's summer home near Occidental. May 11th they par was held March 9th in Madera (22 miles north of Fresno), ticipated in the old time auto display and picnic at Stanford which was the CCRG's lOth Annual. Nearly 200 vendors University in Palo Alto, then a tour to Stockton with the and some 1,500 peraons were estimated as the crowd swelled Northern California Regional Group (Sacramento). On May to new records this year. One of the big regular vendors, 25th another auto show at Northgate Shopping Center for who has made about fifty- three swap meets throughout the benefit of Drake High School scholarship fund, then on country this past season mentioned to the club chairman June 8, the group will join with members of the Santa Rosa that this swap m eet is among the big ones. Ten years ago Regional for g new Concours d'Elegance at Juillard Park. about 20 vendors made the meet and about 200 or so came In mid-summer, the club will be in the Corte Madera Fourth as buyers and lookers. So one can see the rapid growth of July celebration and pa rade, home of their president which has taken place in just a decade. With the weather Ed Tennler. that it has been in 1969 the club was pure lucky to have had a clear, sunny S unday for the meet. (See some of the views ANNUAL SOMERSET ANTIQUE accompanying story.) A lot of brass made its appearance at SHOW SET FOR AUGUST 9 the meet along with tons of excellent automotive material. Somerset Peach Festival on the church grounds of St. Trading was brisk, and it was a great meet, all in all. Francis in the Fields Episcopal Church of Somerset, Penna., General Chairman was D ave Goerlich, who was ably assisted will provide the setting for the annual AACA Antique Auto by Doug Judy, co-chairman; Nadine Linder, kitchen; Marlin Show, August 9th. There will be trophies in all classes and and Agnes Young, raffle; Sandy Grover, publicity and ad special interest cars for the first three places. Door prizes, vance arrangements; George Radanovich, main gate; Bill good food , and a banquet are included in the day's agenda. Noblitt, parking; Bill Phillips, clean up; plus numerous D e:ails may be obtained from Wayne F. Barron, 530 Davis members assisting on these committees. - On the CCRG Avenue, Somerset, Penna., zip 15501, or phone: (814) Calendar up-coming, the club will put on its 5th annual 445-4700. 22
brations during the year. Their own Eugene Swap Meet will be held September G-7.
GRAND RAPIDS HAS FULL AGENDA The members of the Grand Rapids Regional Group in Grand Rapids, Michigan, won't have a chance to sit on their hands this year. At their April meeting, it was apparent, after listening to the coming events, that the club has more places to go that surely everyone will have a chance to show off his car. Requests have been received from two or three places for car displays. The Lowell Swap Meet and Antique Festival was held May 3, and the annual WOODland Tour to Battle Creek June 7-8 will be the big one for the year. The Michigan Classic Car Club has invited the GR Club to Vic Kimzey, leader of the Tulare Co. HCCA "Antique Agonizers" participate in their Gth annual Carnival of Cars on June 8th tutoring young recruits for the band. also. On June 21 there is the Spring Lake Centennial to attend, followed by the Nashville Centennial the next week end. Numerous other events are also scheduled on the Grand Rapids calendar.
1912 ROLLS SAVED FROM OBLIVION! From the Seattle-Tacoma RG "Evergreen Gas-ette" April issue comes word that a pair of their members have been performing heroic deeds in saving a 1912 Rolls Royce from oblivion. "Using Snowmobiles", so the headlines read, "In trepid H.C.C.A. Team Remove Rare Car from Oregon Mountains". The article continues ... After two summers spent clearing the old abandoned road to the Siskiyou Mine in Southern Oregon, two Horseless Carriage members, Don Crank and Ed McNutt, have utilized the winter's heavvy snowfall to tow out the chassis and parts on special skis. Over two thousand man hours of work as well as several Some of the cars on the TCHCC "Shake Rattle and Roll" tour. hundred dollars were spent on the project. Both Don and Ed are now bachelors again. (Thanks to S-T member Jaci< TULARE COUNTY HAS A Stevens' "Antique Antics" April Fool's cartoon! - SCG) "SHAKE, RATTLE, AND ROLL" The Tulare County Regional Group (Calif.) held its EL CAJON GROUP GOES ON annual "Shake, Rattle and Roll" tour for a kick-off of the A WILD FLOWER HUNT 1969 touring season. Thirty-five cars and 127 persons Tom and Margaret Patris of the El Cajon RG were so showed up for this one, meeting at Past President Ray impressed with the tour their group took to Borrego in the Stolper and wife Rose' home in Visalia for coffee and back country of San Diego that they wrote a fine little doughnuts before starting on the first leg of the day's article for the club paper, "Spare Parts". (This, by the way, journey to Three Rivers. A stop was made at the club's friends, is horseless carriage clubbing at its finest, when president's home in Ivanhoe where hosts President Steve members become so imbued with enthusiasm for their hobby and Nettie Marusich served refreshments. Tour chairman that they can't wait to spread the good world. - SCG). The Paul Kious, also a past president of the TCHCC, and his wife Patris' observations were most candid. The day was a solid Polly, led the caravan on to Three Rivers for a delicious overcast when the group left San Diego, and a bit misty, lunch at the White Horse Inn. Needless to say, according too. But this didn't dampen many spirits. The hills were to Donna Pietroforte, club secretary, the club's "Antique beautifully green on the way to Ramona, and after fueling Agonizers", a merrie bande of ragtime jazz musicians, again at Santa Y sahel they headed for the desert where the sun proved a big success, especially with the added vigor of some was breaking through the clouds. Jackets and sweaters were new youthful talents. Thanks went also to members of the shedded. They spotted their first fields of wild flowers that Kern Club and their guesls for helping make the tour a big were in a profusion of colors, as they went through Warner success. The welcome mat is out for all to join the Shake, Springs and down the road to Scissor's Crossing. Sometimes Rattle and Roll next year. (See pix.) you had to look quick, but to the keen eyes of anyone used to looking for old car parts, i.t was possible to spot various EUGENE, OREGON REGIONAL patches of wild flowers and cactus plants in bloom all the ENJOYS AN EASTER PARTY way to Borrego. All in all, after excellent meals and a good March 29th marked a real fun day for members and night's lodging, plus a leisurely ride around Borrego Sunday friends of the Eugene, Oregon, Regional Group. The club morning, the group headed back for San Diego. Gag trophies house was filled with adults and children, and all had a fine went the rounds to everyone. Just so the trouble truck potluck feast, with rabbit cakes and all, followed by the wouldn't feel left out, Pete Laughton had oil pump trouble traditional Easter egg hunt for the youngsters. Games were with his Hudson. Janet Hoover and Ernestine Manley did a conducted for the adults. Largely responsible for organizing fine job planning and conducting the tour. the party were Nancy Bauer, Shirley Higgins, Ruth Brown and Jerry Harper. DUSTER DOINGS HAS A The Eugene club has a heavy schedule ahead, including MAJOR FACE-LIFTING the Rhododendron Festival May 24-25, the Higgins Tour to Prel..ious issues of the Newport Beach (Calif.) Regional Corvallis on June 1, and on June 14-15 it's the Little Glid Group's club paper, "Duster Doings" have been printed in den Tour. In July the club will trek to Crater Lake, besides the traditional vertical format, for a great many years. participating in numerous swap meets and community cele- Now there has appeared a "First" in HCCA publications,
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as far as we are aware of. "Duster Doings" has gone hori his time, equipment and film - about 600 feet. Plans are zontal. Further, a brand spanking new cover design, done now being discussed for the show in 1970. by former "Duster" editor and presently National Director Frank Harris, now grace3 the publication. \Ne note that the trademark of the paper, a tiller steering, one cylinder curved dash Oldsmobile runabout, kicking up clouds of dust, has been retained on the mailing cover. The picture of the new editor, Gorge Paddock, we are SURE, bars no true re semblance! You would have to know George Paddock, and then look at the picture! Wow! At any rate, kudos for a fine job, and to new member Grant Burns who has made lithographic arts his career, has volunteered to print the paper in his shop for the club. The articles written inside the paper are in half-page vertical form and very easy reading, set off by single line headings and a by-line. Presi dent Ernie Boyer, who has served the National in this capacity as well, is now in his second time around, having previously been president of the Newport Group in 1958 and now again in 1969, can take genuine pride in this fine publication, its very resourceful editor and staff, and the Newport membership as a "going club"!
VALLEY OF THE SUN ENJOYS AN Vern and Alice Peck with their 1929 Model A. OLD FASH IONED STRAWBERRY SOC IAL From Diane Thomas comes word that the group in Phoenix spent a leisurely afternoon on Sunday, April 27th at the Beatitudes Rest Home where members displayed cars cover ing 35 years of automotive development, The affair was an PATTERNS FOR SALE: Copies of Authentic Pat old time strawberry social and many of the residents of terns for Antique Car Costumes $1.50 and $2.00 the home wore clothes brought out from trunks and dating each. Send for catalog enclosing 25¢ to cover cost back to the turn of the century. One lady there was 100 of postage and handling. Write for i llustrations to years old and she kept the group busy listening to all the things she remembered, making cars seem like modern Back Seat Drivers, c/o Helen Pickup, 3437 Palm inventions. While the band played old time melodies, mem aire, Phoenix, Arizona 85021. bers of the Valley of the Sun swapped memories with inter ested spectators. National Director Les Thomas and wife Diane, incident ally, will be leaving on a trip to Turkey the 21st of June, with their return slated for September 12th. Bon Voyage! CLASSIC AND ANTIQUE VALUES ~':tA~~,_.=='~,.. for summer f un.I ~~- ...r;---l..r ~ Denver's Veteran Car Museum now includes an ex panded sales division of antiques, c lassics and cars of special interest. Restored or excell entcondition. Choose today for a fun season from the fo ll owing selection: 1915 Mode l T touring. Brass * 1925 Stearns-Knight Brougham *1926 Rol ls-Royce Si lver Ghost roadster *1927 Linco ln V-8 coupe-roadster 1928 Mode l A Ford roadster *1937 Alv i s 4.3 saloon 1937 Linco ln-Zephyr sedan. 12-cylinder 1941 Chrys ler New Yorker sedan 1953 Mercedes-Benz 220 cabriolet 1956 L incoln Continental Mark II Ken and Lila Shaffer and the 1913 Metz. Others under restoration, avai lable soon. Write your needs. Photos where ava il able and descr.iptions, $1 AR IZONA REG IONAL'S 2nd per car. AUTO SHOW REAL SUCCESS Club president Tito Peterson of the Arizona RG expressed H. W. Tay lor, Lt. Col. (Ret.) A. E. Buchannan pride for the fine success the club experience with their 2nd annual Antique Auto and Fashion Show, held at O'Reilly Chevrolet in Tucson March 16-18. Much credit for the suc cess was due to the labors of Cathy Wethington and Chuck Condron for putting on a most professional show, and it was truly a club effort as well. Color movies of the show will be viewed by the club, courtesy of Gene Magee who donated 24
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by Bill Lawrence The Fifteenth Annual Blossom Tour has passed into history. The week end of March 29-30 saw 66 beau tifully restored antique automobiles take their an nual trek through the Santa Clara Valley to inspect Pete Bechtel. There were also 5 former directors the rapidly disappearing orchards, decked out in their present: Cecil Frye, Past President Warwick East spring finery. Tour Chairman Jack Passey and wood, But Catlett, Ben Mazzetti and Les Andrews. ;President Hale Shaw apparently maintained the Dancing and socializing went on until the wee hours. usual Santa Clara Valley H.C.C.A. pipeline to the During the evening a light sprinkle came down out weather man as we had fabulous sunshine for the side; just enough, as Jack Passey said, to wash off entire week-end following a near disastrous winter the dust from the cars. Several Santa Clara Valley of rain. As a result of the long winter rains, the blos members went around to all of the cars and put up soms were about a month late, so Jack was really tops and covered seats to protect the interiors. able to show the tourists a fine collection of blossoms. Sunday dawned clear and sunny, the Tourists set The Tourists left the Hyatt House in San Jose on off on a leisurely trek through the East Foothills, Saturday for a view of the west side of Santa Clara stopping at the Villages, a retirement community, Valley. After travelling several miles on city streets for coffee. Most of the remaining blossoms are con and expressways, the group met on the Stanford centrated in this area, so the riders were treated to . University Campus and followed winding, wooded their best blossom scenes. TV shots were taken in mountain roads to the Adobe Creek Lodge where this area with the cars passing through the blossom lunch was served to the accompaniement of a terrific filled orchards. The return to the Hyatt House was Banjo Band, composed of local businessmen who through downtown San Jose, where the San Jose play for fun. (These same folks entertained on the police Department gave us an escort through the 1 & 2 Cylinder Tour and had so much fun that they business district. Ed Saville claims that those two volunteered to play for the Blossom Tour!). After policemen were writing a thank-you note to him for lunch we travelled to Stevens Creek Lake and up the giving them a ride in the Stoddard-Dayton, but from Creek above the lake to Saratoga and Los Gatos. the expression in the picture one wonders. Here, a feature peculiar to all Blossom Tours soon The Awards Luncheon saw MaxToby receive the became apparent. About half of the group got lost! National Trophy for the best restored pre-1916 car, The wanderers had a fine nine mile detour along his immaculate 1910 Ford Mother-in-law Roadster. Stevens Creek, fording the creek and running along Ronald Finley received the National Trophy for best side the creek on a dirt road. The Fearless Leaders post-1915 for his beautifully done 1919 Studebaker soon found out that the road was a blind road, and Touring. Jack Passey was pleasantly surprised to on their way back passed the 'followers' looking for a receive the Most Desirable trophy (by ballot) for his place to turn around. 1913 Pope-Hartford Touring. Orin Campion received Back at the hotel a fine dinner was served to about the trophy for the car driven the longest distance, 180 gay participants. There were representatives although he and his wife tied for this as she drove from eleven Regional Groups as well as members the Cadillac and he drove the 1913 Overland Speed from neighboring Antique Automobile, Model T, and ster from Santa Rosa belonging to his daughter Independent Clubs present. The National H.C.C.A. Jeanine. Ron Brown of Auburn received the Most was represented by President Bill Lawrence, Chair Trouble Trophy in absentia, having had a single car man of the Board, Joseph Straub, Treasurer Ed Sa accident with his Model T, injuring himself more ville, Joe Morris, Lou Giacometti, Clarence Kay and than the T.
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Santa Clara Valley HCCA President Hale Shaw and family 1n Mr. and Mrs. Ed Saville and Mr. and Mrs. Joe Straub 1n 1910 1913 Model T Ford speedster. Stoddard-Dayton.
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I ANTIQUE AUTOS TO BE INSURED (List on separate sheet if necessary) ~ D 1 th' · 1 b ff · I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I My veh1cle(s) w1ll be used ma1n ly 1n exhlbllion, club aCIIYihes, parades and other functions of public intere•t and will not be used primarily I I for the transportation of pauenaers or aoods. NOTE: Your insurance becomes effect1ve vpon payment of the premium and acceptance of the I I risk. Plea•• sign and forward with your remittance, payable to: 1 I J. c. TAYLOR, INC. I I Signature'------55 LONG LANE UPPER DARBY, PA. 19082 I ··············-···-································I Dote, ------I HORSELESS CARR/AGE GAZETTE/ May-June 1969 by Ward Kimball 28 ROYSTON'S MERCER
Royston owned the 1913 Mercer, the prize of his collection, for about 25 years, according to longtime friend and fellow collector, Raymond E. Nelson. He got it from the original buyer's widow for free after "several years" of trying to buy the car. Told it wasn't for sale when he first approached the owner, Royston subsequently reminded her of his interest in the Mercer "every couple of months" by sending her "a bouquet of roses or an orchid plant." After several years, she phoned him and asked if he still wanted the car. "He said yes, and she said come and get it," re lates Nelson. Royston reminded her that they hadn't discussed price, and she told him there's be no charge. The 1913 Mercer after refurbishing by the late Herb Royston "That's real flower power," comments Nelson. who is seated in the car. The original price tag on the Mercer was $2,600, f.o.b. Trenton, N.J. Its sale Sunday for $31,000 em phasizes the financial level of antique car collecting. Bv DAN FISHER The law of supply and demand is the primary rise. L.A. Times Auto Writer Nelson claims there are only 106 Mercers in existence Retired race driver Phil Hill sank $31,000 into an worldwide. And the 1913 raceabout model is partic automobile Sunday. But this one will never see action ularly rare. at Indianapolis or Le Mans. It's a 1913 Mercer raceabout model 35J that Hill bought at an auction of six antique cars from the MERCER PEDIGREE collection of the late Herbert Royston. Dear Mr. Fisher:- The $31,000 was considered a "steal" for the car y our story about the Mercer was like something by most of the estimated 400 antique car collectors out of the past. It was quite a thrill when we paid and buffs attending the auction. The last similar $2600.00 in advance for it, and without any fixed date model sold brought $45,000 last May at an auction for delivery. These cars were actually "custom made" in Brookline, Mass. And in antique car collectors' for the rich student market of Princeton - hence the minds, the one in the Royston collection is a better yellow and black colors. catch because it's claimed to be more "authentic." One day we received an engraved card inviting us Asked how he felt about the "bargain" price he to the plant in Trenton, N.J. to witness the final paid for the car, Hill said he had "mixed" feelings. check-out of the engine after road tests. After cakes "Anytime you spend $31,000 you have mixed feel and coffee, etc. the car was to be delivered to their ings, now don't you?" he replied. New York sales office. Hill is a long-time antique car collector. He has We were living at Great Neck (which was near the "14 or 15" cars, including a 1906 Fiat, eight Packards Long Island Parkway) so it was handy to let it out ranging in vintage from 1911 to 1938, and two Pierce on a paved road. You could pick up a race there any Arrows. He came to the auction from a luncheon afternoon. This was a private road, built by weathly meeting of the Classic Car Club driving a 1938 Pack people living far out on the Island, who wanted to ard from his collection. drive to New York - there were only clam-shell All in all, the six antique cars auctioned brought roads. You could buy a membership, or pay a dollar Royston's estate $72,000. Included were a 1906 Auto at the various toll houses. car, a two-seat roadster with a two-cylinder engine We had been spending winters here in Southern ($8,000); a 1911 Ford Model T, five-passenger tour California and one day decided we would reverse the ing car ($4,500); a 1913 Stanley Steamer ($11,000); thing, and go East when we wished. So we had two a 1910 two-seat Packard roadster ($8,500); a 1920 freight cars- one for our things, and one (end door Mercer race-about ($9,000); and the 1913 Mercer. type) for our cars. A 1906 Stearns, a 1911 Kissel Royston, who was an antique car enthusiast for Kar, and the beautiful 1913 Mercer. We drove the about 35 years, died at age 78 last August. He was Mercer until 1930, and then put it up on blocks, president and general manager of Armacost and Roy with a cover over it. It was here that Herb Royston ston, a nursery. got the bug. When the U.S. begged for tires, we gave
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our set of six Dunlap, black rubber, racing tires. The joy rolled out the gate. I learned the next morning Mercer people had imported them for us. the solo trip had to be cancelled. Every tin-horn cop I notice, from your story, that "authentic" has a stopped him to have a look - nothing more. So up ~ot of meaning. There used to be a motor specialist into the truck for the remainder of the journey. m Los Angeles who worked over the fancy engines. There was still a sixteen valve Stutz in the garage He installed a set of aluminum pistons to replace the and the family Cadillac. heavy cast iron ones. The OJ:?.lY other change was Now, I merely look on. I will be 86 this year and made by me. The French cars at Indianapolis had have driven 67 years without accident, so I lapsed what they called the dry sump. l had to do some my drivers license on my last birthday, and have thing while still in New York to stop smoking - given away my old faithfull Chrysler - vintage of and castor oil likes to smoke. I got a ticket twice on 1949. And funny, too. The man who now has it in Fifth Ave., on the little hill-going up from 34th St. tends to keep it in first class condition - ... eventu The tank on the rear of the car carried 25 gals. of ally sell it as an antique. gas, and 5 gals. of oil. I installed two oil pumps on Round and round we go. the engine. One put oil into the engine and the other There is no fun in driving, with freeways, police, sent it back to the tank from the crankcase. Upon and nothing to see but lines of concrete going off into nearing the City, I could cut down the valve on the the distance. Even racing is just too much. Indian delivery pump, and leave ample lubrication for fool apolis was built to test Stock Cars. For instance, I ing around on city streets. Otherwise the car is as went there with the Mercer team and it was a lark was at delivery. rowing with the Stutz bunch. Then again, it was fun There is one other change; but not anything to do taking a car or two down to Ormond Beach. You with operation. I changed tire rims from clincher to could get a race there any time. And it as a perfect the split rim, for ease of changing, and the problem place to burn out engine bearings. That 2'3 mile of getting clincher tires. straight-away fooled a lot of drivers . .T?e Mot~meter on the radiator fill-cap was not ongmal eqmpment. The Rushmore gas head-lights I was in Honolulu one time and had bought a 1910 are collectors items now, if they can be found at all. Kissel Kar. In a few weeks I had to be in New York, I was glad to have Herb own the car; but it was and I tried to get the agent to give me a decent amount for the new car. No soap. So I asked Matson an amu.si~g time while he was attempting to get it. And th1s 1s pleasant too. Herb arrived with a truck Steamship Co. if they would sling the car up on three experts, a set of tires, and what not. We got deck, and they said Sure. I intended to drive it from the car down off the blocks, put in some gas emptied San Francisco to New York, and if it conked out, the oil and replaced new - I felt I should' deliver a I would get on the Union Pacific and leave the car "going" car. After a hectic hour or two I got out where it was. With a few pans and pots and a piece the faithful ether bottle, dosed up the pet cocks, and of canvas I was off. In 31 days I pulled up in front of went around front and "twisted her tail". Right off, the Kissel office. They said if I would give them my and ready! With that, I went into the house and got story and leave the car and the camping gear, they my pongee cap, pongee duster, goggles and the long would give me a new 1911, six cyl. car. That's the black gloves. Herb was told to drive back to L.A. one I mentioned earlier in this rambling letter. So, With fond adieus and mixed feelings, our pride and you see what I mean by fun. And there was courtesy shown by motorists for each other. Look at the driv ing behavior as of now. I wrote about the Mercer because I thought you might know Phil Hill and could tell him as to the "authentic" business. Best regards -COLEMAN M. GRAY
Ford Parts 1909-1948. Largest catalog of Model T, A and 32-48 Ford Parts is yours FREE. In clude your complete address and zip code with your request. SPECIALIZED AUTO PARTS Mrs. Gray, mother of Coleman Gray, bidding a fond farewell 301 Adams, Dept. A, Houston, Texas 77011 to th e thrilling Mercer. She then wen t in the house so that she would not see Herb Royston drive away in the car, in December 1943. aaaaaaaaaaaaaasasaaas 30
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SEPTEMBER 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th HCCA NATIONAL TDU!t STATE LINE, NEVADA
1969 National Horse less Carriage Tour Committee Dear Member: On behalf of the National Tour Committee may I extend an in vitation to attend the H .C.C. National Tour, September 2r>d thru the 5 at State Line, Nevada. We would enjoy having you part ; cipate and s hare our fun during these four days and en joy the events outlined in the following tour itinerary . Roger Ellis Tour Chairman Tour packs will contain brochure with time schedules and cam p lete information on daily tours.
TUESDAY -SE PTEMBER 2nd RESERVATION INFORMATION Registration at Sahara Tahoe Hotel11 :00 a.m. to 3:00p.m. Visit The package price is$165. 00 per couple or$85.00 single. Child with your friends and get acquainted with State Line area. Even ren 12 and under using rollaway bed in parents room $45.00. ing cocktail party followed by chuck wagon dinner at Sahara The full amount, or $75.00 d e posit must accompany each reser Tahoe Hotel. vation. Send reservations and requests for information to Roger Ellis, WEDNESDAY - SEPTEMBER 3rd P .0. Box 183, Reno, Nevada 89504. Breakfast on your own. The tour will leave State Line for a trip around the east side of Lake Tahoe with a lunch stop at the RESERVATION DEADLINE AUGUST 20TH, 1969 Ponderosa Ranch of T.V. fame where you may visit the Cart wright home, western town and other attractions. Aft~r lunch we will continue on around Lake Tahoe with a short side trip to Fallen Leaf Lake and return to State Line where we willenjoy the theatre dinner ·show at Sahara Tahoe Hotel . There will be a REQUIREMENTS cocktail party on your own before the dinner show. FOR PARTICIPATING CARS AND OCCUPANTS
THURSDAY- SEPTEMBER 4th 1. Horseless Carriages limited to 1915 models and older.No Breakfast on your own. Tour via the south end of Lake Tahoe exceptions to this rule. and over beautiful Luther Pass to Gardnerville, Nevada and on 2. All cors must be in good condition with respect to paint and to Minden, where we will have lunch in the park at Minden, exterior portions and in good mechanical condition. Judging Nevada. After lunch we will return to Lake Tahoe, via Kings will be done according to rules established by the Nation bury Grade. In the evening we will attend a cocktail party at al Board. Harrah's Tahoe Edgewood Room with the balance of the even ing on your own. 3. Public liability and property damage insurance must be car· ried on all vehicles. FRIDAY -SEPTEMBER 5th 4. Suitable costumes must be worn at all times. Breakfast on your own. We will tour to Brockway, California on the north end of Lake Tahoe and on to Truckee, California 5. No commercial advertising will be permitted on any part and return to north end of Lake Tahoe for lunch . After lunch icipating cor. you wi II have your choice of touring either the west, or east 6. Passengers are welcome at regular tour fees established. side of Lake Tahoe for your return to State Line and cocktai I party and awards banquet on the last evening .
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Fostoria, Ohio was proud of its production of automobiles. Eleven Allen cars may be counted in the scene of the loading of these cars in freight cars for shipment to far away cities, about 1917. Photos loaned by Charles Coff man, auto shop instructor at Fresno (Cal.) City College.
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the designing of auto exhibits (such as Motorama), experimental cars, streamlined trains, electric fans, batteries, radios and all household appliances and auto accessories made by GM. Mention of the Art and Color Section brings back memories for automotive old-timers. Many of them recall the fancy Christmas cards the department mailed out each year. In those early days, styling didn't occupy its cur rent esteemed place in the auto industry. At first, Mr. Earl's staff didn't do much more than pick colors and choose interiors for bodies already built by engineers. Styling had to be "sold" to many GM executives. There were great engineering problems in ideas pro posed by stylists, but stylist-engineer teamwork evolved in the 1930s. Harlow H. Curtice, then Buick general manager, was eager to try new styling ideas. One of Mr. Earl's styling innovations for Buick was the torpedo body Th e late Harley J . Earl discussi ng t he pe rformance of t he Fire on the 1940 model, complete with bustle back and bird with race driver Ma uri Rose . rear doors hinged on the center post. That rear-door setup is commonplace today (all four-door models except Lincoln use it), but it was HARLEY J. EARL pretty radical in 1940. DETROIT- Harley J. Earl, died April 10, 1969 Tail fins were another of Mr. Earl's ideas-for Ca in West Palm Beach, Fla. He was 75 and had suf dillac in 1948. He reportedly was inspired by the fered a stroke in March. twin tails of the P-38 fighter plane. Mr. Earl headed General Motor's styling activities GM's high regard for Mr. Earl's abilities led to a from 1927 until his retirement on Dec. 1, 1958. He $1-million "post-retirement" contract, which was ne was vice-president in charge of the styling staff from gotiated two years before his 1958 retirement. 1940 to 1958. Under this agreement, Mr. Earl was to receive General Motors was the pioneer in modem-day $50,000 annually for the first five years and $75,000 automotive styling. The corporation says that the annually for the next 10 years, with any unpaid in turning point in this activity was the LaSalle, which stallments at the time of his death going to his legal was introduced in 1927. Mr. Earl was the LaSalle's representatives. stylist. This was in addition to his pension and any unpaid The LaSalle, says G M, was "the first American bonus installments at the time of retirement. In re production car completely designed from headlights turn, Mr. Earl agreed to be available to GM as a con to rear bumper by a stylist." sultant, and he agreed not to engage in competitive Mr. Earl was born Nov. 22, 1893, in Los Angeles. activities. His father owned the Earl Carriage Works there, and Today, the GM styling staff is headed by William Mr. Earl received his early training, along with de L. Mitchell, one of Mr. EarPs proteges. And three of signing and drafting, in his father's factory. his former employees are the styling vice-presidents At the end of World War I, Don Lee Corp., of Los for the other domestic auto makers- Elwood P. En Angeles, purchased the Earl Carriage Works and em gel at Chrysler, Eugene Bordinat at Ford and Richard ployed Harley Earl as director of a custom body shop that specialized in different types of designs for open and closed cars on foreign and American chassis. It was in this capacity that Mr. Earl earned an enviable reputation as an automobile designer. While with Don Lee Corp., Mr. Earl began a con tract with Cadillac that resulted in his being retained as a consulting engineer. He was responsible for the designing of the original LaSalle and the redesigning of Cadillac cars .. In 1927, Mr. Earl was appointed director of GM's newly formed Art and Color Section. It became the Styling Section in 1940. In this capacity, he directed Th e famous 6-66 Pierce-Arrow designed by Earl fo r motion all design work for GM. picture comed ian Fatty Arbuckle. The car was so massive that In addition to production cars, his work embraced it made ' Fatty' look small.
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A. Teague at American Motors. During that period there were many custom coach Mr. Earl is survived by his wife, Sue, and two sons, builders in the area such as, Earle C. Anthony (Pack James M. Earl, of Grosse Pointe, Mich., who is presi ard distributor), John B. Brokaw, Western Mechan dent of Ford & Earl Associates, an industrial design ical Works, Crown Carriage Company, Advance firm in Warren, Mich., and J. Courtney Earl, a Pon Autobody Works, George R. Bentel Company (Mer tiac dealer in Delray Beach, Fla. cer and Simplex agent), McClaren Body Company, Robert Thompson Company, M.A. Leach Company and the Walter M. Murphy Company. Being intent on a career of automobile design I ma<;l.e the rounds of all of these plants to show my own ideas of automobile styling, making the ac quaintance of Harley Earl. In September of 1920 I became a protege of Frederick A. Selje at the Robert Thompson Company and seven months later became a designer at the Murphy Coachworks in Pasadena, a prime competitor of the Don Lee Coachworks, suc cessors to the Earl Carriage. In the intervening years, periodic contact was maintained with Harley Earl. An invitation came late in 1927 to join Harley's new staff at General Motors in Detroit, known as the Art & Color Section. Here we dreamed up new styles for the various G.M. cars and modelled them full size in clay, for studying every angle of view to eliminate A Simplex-Crane roadster body designed by Harley Earl for awkward conjunctions and to achieve pleasing lineE. F. W. Mathison, along side of the Earl Carriage works at 12th and contours. and Los Angeles Streets in Los Angeles. Early 1919 photo. Though Harley Earl stuttered in speaking, his was a forceful personality so needful in such a position. PERSONAL RECOLLECTIONS This was aided by his height of six foot four inches so that when one was talking with him one felt the need By W. Everett Miller of a box to stand on to see eye to eye. None of his Since the beginnings of the automobile, Los An associates could top him. geles had been active in promoting the manufacture When some one of the staff came up with some of automobiles locally. Many had made the effort particularly unique design, Harley's question, and disappeared by the end of World War I. "Would you like to see ten thousand of these cars The motion picture and the oil industries, among on the road", usually restored equalibrium and others, had created a demand for automobiles of sanity. advanced design to satisfy the weathly proponents E _g Though not generally so well known to the motor of these affluent communities after the war. ing public as other automotive figures, Harley J. The Earl Carriage Works had been established Earl has left a strong imprint of his personality im about 1899 and naturally took on automobile work bedded in 50 years of the exercise of his aesthetic as that form of transportation gained in popularity. judgement. Harley Earl returned from Stanford University im mediately post war to devote himself to automobile body design. At that time the style concept was that of the horse drawn carriage with its crisp outline usu ally consisting of numerous panels in offset planes and bounded with mouldings. These were easily por trayed in design-fashion sketches in inked lines. Harley's notions were not so easily shown in line sketches, for the unbounded flowing contours of his imagination appeared clumsy and shapeless in out line drawings. The whole embodiment of design was to be found in the control of highlights and shadows by the proper forming of compound curves of the smooth exterior metal work. Therefore Harley made no drawings, but rather went into the shop and di rected the workmen in making the body framework. .. The resulting coachwork ushered in a new look in A Pierce-Arrow Victoria Phaeton designed for E. L. Doheny by automobile styling. The examples of Earl produc the late Hariey J. Earl, al so about 1919, before the Earl Car tions given here are typical of the many custom built riage works was purchased by Don Lee, the California Cadillac cars that he designed. distributor at 12th and Main Streets. 38
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by Helen Frye
A careful examination of fashion magazines, catalogues and photos of the 1909 to 1911 period indicates a steady progression of the style silhouette toward a longer, slimmer outline. The increase in the popula r sport of motoring had some cause for this no doubt; aside from the immense yardage of dragging skirts to be degreased, it was not too comfortable jouncing around the rough roads in a tightly laced corset, and we find the new corsets of 1909 loosening up a bit at the waistline although becoming longer and more confining at the hip - thus a bit of streamlining.
The innovation seems to be the Moyen Age or long torso design, and the yoke top skirt, with fullness of plaits or gathers below the smooth hip. The French dressmakers often added sash drapery at this point, which, to quote the Ladies Home Journal "not only gives an exaggerated long waist effect, but makes one shudder at the thought that it may be a fore-runner of the bus tle." This detail did not develop, but the hip yoke and long torso effect did last through 1910 but not exclusively and the general softness and slimness of the elongation of line did; even collars were as high as possible - right up to the ears. Materials were soft anci pliable; plaits, when used, hung straight to the toe or floor without flair. The silhouette followed the lines of the figure closely. Tailored suits and coats were quite mannish; the long suit jackets of l909 gn:: w much shorter during 1910.
Sleeves showed marked changes, being long and plain in tailor mades, being extremely close-fitting at the shoulder with perhaps fullness or puff below the elbow for afternoon and evening wear. Gowns seem fanciful and feminine, trains on evening costumes short and graceful. Dressmaking proce dures were changing also, getting away from the heavy boned linings, using the new ribbon belting, light silk and net foundations for the one-piece dresses. The kimono sleeve appeared at the end of the year especially in dressy blouse3 and simple gowns.
Trimmings include a variety of braiding, and banding narrow and wide, of lace or embroidery; heavy soft laces dyed to match gown fabric, used in all-over ways or inset in unusual methods. Net magnificently embroidered with colored silk and gold threads and beads appeared to be used on elaborate gowns.
The majority of hats continued to be large, really out size; the n ews photos of the period show a heavy sprinkling of unbelievably enormous hats in crowded gatherings. Ac cording to the season they were made of every fabric and trimmed with almost everything equally outsize. The large puffed mushroom crown was very popular with both wide and small brims, including toque3 which often were banded with fur or feather breasts. Immense ribbon bows were in ventive and charming.
This is the picture - the huge hat topping the long slim figure - and surprise, surprise! Madame La Mode had sneaked in an other joker - the hobble skirt, and 1911 had arrived.
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1925 Packard Straight Eight owned by Phil & Mary Po lker of Poquon ock , Conn., founders, years ago, of t he Hartford County 1917 Mitchell once owned by Walter Kiesbser, uncle of member Region of The Horse!e ~s Carriage Club. James H . Moloney of :;onto Barbara, Cal. 44 \\.1? \1 6\l . WHAT WAS THE OR '1-J #)..S IGINAl ~"'f.tlf. COlOR? WHAT'S THE YEA.R'l WHAT SIZE TIRES? -HAT IS fT? o\scoNl\NU£0'? WHAT DID IT COST? WH£N WAS \1
Correspondence for this department should be addressed to: Dr. ALFRED S. LEWERENZ 4107 HOLLY KNOLL DRIVE HOLLYWOOD 27, CALIFORNIA 90027 To receive a reply, inquiries MUST include a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Send front and side view photos, engine and serial numbers, bore, stroke, wheelbase, etc.
CORRECT SPRINGS FOR The axles and reach rod of what appears to be part of the run MODEL I 0 BUICK ning gear of a steam automobile. Sir: I see K. 0. Billingsley's inquiry regarding the rear springs on the Model 10 Buick in the January February 1968 issue. The simple elliptic buggy spring was used on the 1908 Runabout and not the double shackle type. If your motor number is over 4001 it will use the double shackle, and if your motor num ber is less than this, what you have is wrong. The spring part number used on lOs, motors 1 to 4001 was 10-E-713-A on motors 4001 and up 10-E- 1257 and 3311. The picture Doc shows is definitely an early eight with the buggy springs in the rear and the use of flat fenders without the angle iron formers. These Buick torque tube. change at 4001 also. Your brass radiator should also show a small bead around the inside perimeter. -J. T. ARENS Philadelphia, Pa. 19137
CHASSIS PARTS FOR TWO EARLY U. S. CARS TURN UP IN NEW ZEALAND Sir: The three black and white pictures are for your inspection and elucidation. The chassis I obtained recently and was told it was of a small steamer which had solid rubber tyres on wire spokes. Nobody else seems to know much about it. The chain sprocket in the center of the rear axle. The other two photos are of a Buick I found Buick rear axle. while looking for a twin. I brought these home and will bring some more next time. It has a six-cylinder motor with R. Hand gate change and cylinders cast in one of the black and white photos, it seems to in 2 lots of three. It seemed to have had cantilever check fairly well with that of a 1902 Toledo steam rear springs and a very round bonnet shape. car. I am sending you under separate cover a photo The tyre size (rim) was 4" wide by 25" inside the copy of three pictures of a 1902 Toledo so that you rim with 6 bolts and beaded edge tyres. can further verify this hypothesis. -W. H. MILLER I can, perhaps, tell you more about the Buick in ASHBURTON the other two pictures if you can locate a frame num NEW ZEALAND ber and/or an engine number, both stamped-in. The e Regarding the origin of the early chassis shown frame number may be on the left frame at the front.
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1906 Stevens-Duryea Model R Touring Car showing the identify ing ve rtical mouldings on th e rear panel of the tonneau. Thi s of hours of searching in ALAM HANDBOOKS, '11HE is a contemporary photo. HORSELESS AGE and THE AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL we can only come up with NIELSEN'S TONNEAU IDENTIFIED generalities such as that the vehicle that it was a Sir: The unidentified tonneau pictured on page 51 part of probably was a roadster of moderate size and of the March-Apr-il '69 GAZETTE, and owned by was built around 1910, plus or minus a year. N. E. Nielson, belong to a 1906-1908 Model-R Stevens-Duryea. It is identical to the one on my car. -MIKE ROBERTS BERKELEY' CAL.
AN ANTIQUE CAR SKELETON NEEDS IDENTIFICATION Sir: Enclosed are some photos of a chassis which I hope you might help me identify. Some of the measurements and pertinent data are as follows : W.B. 109", this was calculated from the center of the front cross member to the crown of the rear fender. Also a strap holder possibly for a shock absorber was also located at this rear point. The width of the frame is 34 % ". Distance between front and rear motor mounts is 50 lh ". The transmission lever has three notches. The serial # plate on the rear (brass) has the No. 293. The running boards and head light mounts were sold before I got ahold of the frame but the outlines indicate a clover leaf design for the running board bracket. I was told that the running board was perforated metal. Outlines of the lite mounts indicate a 1" x 5lh" bracket. The fenders are 111;4 " wide. I would appreciate any help you can give me on this matter. - HENRY A. LEON Los GATos, CALIFORNIA Rear view of unidentified frame with outboard mounted se mi • The unknown chassis shown in the four pictures ell ipt ical rear sp rings and brackets on the rea r crossmember for enclosed with your letter has proved to be quite a a Presto-Lite gas t ank. The f ender apron seems t o indicate a puzzle for David Rait and myself. After a number roadster body. 46
and pictures to the Editor of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE with the hope that one of our eagle eyed readers will come up with the identification of this chassis.
CLUB MEMBER SEEKS IDENTITY Side view of unidentified frame showing sweeping front and rear fenders and the position of the missing running board brackets. OF EARLY RACING CAR Sir: The make, model and age of this car is un known. The writer believes that the photograph was taken at or near Wildwood, New Jersey some time between 1904 and 1907 during his early teen's when he at tended and took pictures of every race car his allow ance and persuasion would permit. Of the several hundred taken this is the only negative left. The car appears to be in process of conversion to a stock car racer as evidenced by the six cylinder L head motor with short exhaust pipes; the auxili ary oil reservoir; steering post braces; speedometer The absence of an H-gate for the gear shift lever argues for a mounting and elimination of hand brake. two speed transmission. Can anyone guess what it is? -EARL M. EVLETH LAGUNA BEACH, CALIFORNIA
Rear view of unidentified frame with outboard mounted semi elliptical rear springs and brackets on the rear crossmember for a Presto-Lite gas tank. The fender apron seems to indicate a roadster body.
Dating and identification features include such items as: 1. Hand crank coming through the front cross An unidentified racing car. It appears to have six cylinders cast member. in pairs. 2. Righ hand drive. 3. Shape of the control levers and their manner DOES A LYONS-KNIGHT AUTOMOBILE of mounting on the frame. 4. Clover leaf pattern left by the running board STILL SURVIVE? brackets. Sir: Please provide any information that you have 5. Evidence of a short running board. regarding the Lyons Knight Automobile manufac 6. Long front and rear fenders and their shape. tured in Indianapolis, Ind., around 1909 to 1912. Also the splash aprons. I would like a picture of one and names and ad 7. Straight frame with no kick-up at the rear. dresses of persons that have restored one, or any 8. Rear mounted Prest-O-Lite tank fastenings. pertinent literature or data that is available. 9. Offset rear spring mounting suggesting a -GEO. W. LYONS II Hotchkiss-type drive with front end of rear SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA springs bolted rigidly to the outside of the e My records indicate that the Lyons-Knight frame. automobile was offered in 1914 and 1915, having 10. The Serial Number of 293. been introduced in the fall of 1913. 11. The perforated metal running boards. I am enclosing photo-copies of Lyons-Knight re Since we were unable to find a car that combined ference material from MOTOR for August, 1913, most of the above details we are sending your letter pages 24, 25 and 56.
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' calling on your able assistance again to make the job a little easier. It is a two cylinder opposed type engine with auto matic in-take valves and magneto ignition. The cool ing is strictly thermo-syphon with no fan. The engine and planetary transmission are carried in a com mon casting. The crankshaft runs parallel to the frame. As yet I have not located a serial number. I understand this car was built for only two years from about 1908 through '10. The only reference I have been able to find so far is a picture of a 1909 Demot in the #5 Scrapbook page 80. E _g I am enclosing two pictures from which you will note this car is different or has been modified from the illustration in the scrapbook. I wonder if you The 1914 Lyon s-K ni ght sleeve valve eng in e. Harry A . Knox of th e could possibly help me with the following: porcupine Waterless Knox fame in Springfield , Moss . was man ager of the automobile deportm ent of the Lyon s-A tlas Company 1. Did they make more than one model? of Indianapolis, Ind. 2. What are the wheel and tire sizes? 3. What type of magneto was used? I do not have any record of a surviving Lyons 4. Would motor specs. be available as to H.P. Knight car. This make was preceeded by the Atlas rating, etc.? Knight, 1911-1913. 5. What were factory colors? It is possible that you might be able to obtain 6. Would a more concise illustration of the fend a copy of a Lyons-Knight sales brochure, catalog or ers be available? owner's manual by writing to one or more of the 7. Is a copy of any manual or catalog available? libraries on the enclosed list. This is about it. Whatever you may be able to find will be very greatly appreciated. Thank you again. SOURCES FOR OBTAINING PHOTOSTATIC COPIES -PAUL K. MERISUO OF AUTOMOTIVE LITERATURE PALOS VERDES ESTATES Photostatic copies of automotive literature may CALIFORNIA be obtained at reasonable cost from the following libraries. If one library does not have the reference in question, one of the others usually will be able to supply it. Automotive History Collection Detroit Public Library 5201 Woodward Avenue Detroit 2, Michigan Long Island Automotive Museum Southampton, Long Island New York R. Pierce Library 3517 Dollar Drive Akron 19, Ohio New York Public Library Fifth A venue and 42nd Street The th ree pedal controls of the DeMotCor. New York 18, N.Y. Thomas McKean Automobile Reference Collection The Free Library of Philadelphia Logan Square Philadelphia It is suggested that when you write to a library that you enclose a self-addressed envelope and that in your letter you state clearly the reference which you wish to have copied. The library will then be able to inform you as to whether it has the refer ence and what the photostats will cost you.
A DEMOT IN CALIFORN IA, ONE OF JUST THREE ON RECORD Sir: My next project is going to be restoration of a 1909 Demot which I recently acquired. So, I am Paul Merisuo's two cylinder opposed 1911 DeMotCor. 48
The first announcement of the Demot car was made in September, 1909. Reference No. 3. This was a four-page affair in color. Detailed specifications are given. The prototype Demot had no release on the gear shift lever, no oval tank back of the seat and no louvers in the hood. Reference No. 4 from the Octo ber issue of the AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL and repeated again in the November and December, ~ v 1909, issues, was describing the 1910 model which :c >• came on the market in the fall of 1909 . Illustrations differed in that ads from MOTOR AGE and THE AUTOMOBILE for October 21, THE CAR THAT FILLS A UNIVERSAL 1909, do show an oval gas tank on the rear deck but NEED no louvers in the hood. References No. 5, 6 and 7. AN AUTOMOBILE, NOT AN IMITATION for A top and windshield were added early in 1910. MAGNETO $550 FULLY INCLUDED EQUIPPED Reference No.8. " The Aristocratic Runabout at the Poor Man's Price" Louvers were cut in the hood by 1911. Though A s the res ult of our ve r y first announcement More than half our yea r '3 product alreadt aJked for the louvers do not show in my photo-copies of Refer ------·---· SPECIFICATIONS : E ence Nos. 9 and 10, they are quite clear in the !IIOTOR-1-qlirA ..-. doublt <>ppoood 1 - 1~ II. P.. II STBI!RISO GBAR- IrHToniblo typ< _g T ~~~~~~~S-I~mt.uy, it'loHORSELESS CARR/AGE GA ZETTE/ May-June 1969 49
=o~o======~o~o o~o o~oc: Wallace Williams and grandson Dan Howard, 3, were invited from the crowd, to ride also. U Parke· Bernet Galleries, Inc. ~ Wayne Nutting used a tank of propane gas to start 0D and D0 the vaporizer of the Stanley and kept the tank, Bernard E. Calkins ANTIQUE CARS ~ meanwhile, on the tonneau floor. The propane liquid Will Hold a is stored under pressure which build-up with rising temperatures and must be released through a relief National AUCTION valve. This heavy gas does not disperse as lighter 0~ ~ 0 gases do, so that the gas filled the body of the Stanley. It also has a higher BTU output in burning than 9~ 80 ANTIQUE, VINTAGE &CLASSIC CARS 9~ gasoline. A spark, cigarette lighter or perhaps a waft with Automobiliana ing of the gas underneath the car to the boiler fire Their First on the West Coast box, caused the propane gas to ignite, enveloping the at entire body of the car and its seven occupants. Wil Burlingame, California liam Shutz, the father of the young family, driving 0 0 a 1921 Packard in the event, was standing in the crowd, and leaped upon the car to rescue them, re ~ (3 MU•; ~; ~~~; ;•port) ~ r;;; ceiving critical burns with the others. Williams and grandson, Dan, escaped with minor burns (compa ~ (Cars will be on Display June 21st and 22nd- Admission $1.00) ~ ratively) while the Nuttings received 80% and 90% 0 0 second and third degree burns which cost them their D Catalogue Available for $2.50 D 0 Write 0 lives, Wayne on Monday and Beth on Wednesday. At this writing the Shutz family are still in very Parke - Bernet Galleries, Inc. ~ 980 Madison Avenue - New York City critical condition, and face a long period of hos or at pitalization in the burn ward of the Orange County Bernard E. Calkins ANTIQUE CARS Medical Center. 0~ 380 Lang Road (P.O. Box 1486) - Burlingame, Ca lifornia o Those who own or operate steam cars should seek 0 On the Bayshore Freeway • 3 Miles South of San Francisco Airport 0 0 (In the Anza Pacific Commerica l Development) O qualified advice before changing the vaporizing sys n Phone (415) 342·6646 n tem or fuels normally used. Propane and butane are ~o=o o=o o~o o=oc hazardous materials and should not be used without all possible safeguard. Contrary to newspaper reports the Stanley was NOT converted from "Wood and coal burning to butane burning" for the Stanley Steamers were de ~- signed to burn gasoline, with miles per gallon com parable to the internal combustion engine. Hence the old myth that "steamers were bought-off-the-market OBITUARIES by Standard Oil Co .. " is completely untrue. Watson C. Adams Pittsburgh, Pa. Ross A. Gibson Logansport, In d. J. Leonard Jennewein Mitchell, S. D. WALTER ROSENTHAL Earl Leitritz March 1969, Fort Bidwe ll, Cal. Descending a grade in his Model T Ford, Walt William Roderick O'Conner (66) Rosenthal of Glendale, California, attempted a down April 6, 1969, Palm Beach, Fla. shift of the Ruckstell two-speed rear axle, thus Carlton Gardner Parmenter, June 6, 1912-March 13, 1969 momentarily disconnecting the transmission service Westminster, Mass. brake. Engine speed could not match the car speed William Stewart Jan. 12, 1969, Shawnee, Okla. to effect re-engagement resulting in the loss of con trol and a fatal crash. Moral: Model Ts with two WAYNE 0. & BETH NUTTING speed axles should be fitted with rear wheel brakes such as the "Rocky Mountain" accessory variety. The subsequent death of the Nutting couple fol lowing the tragic holocaust at 12:30 PM Saturday, PAUL PANHARD April 26th while awaiting the judging of the cars on The 87 year old nephew of Rene Panhard, wood a tour of Knotts Berry Farm at Buena Park, Cal. , working machinery manufacturing pioneer of Paris, sponsored by the Antique Automobile Club, is re died March 26. 1969. Paul joined in the work of gretted by all. Their condensing 1917 Stanley Steam Emil Levassor in 1904, producing the "Panhard et er has been a participant in many HCCA activities of Levassor" automobiles. Panhard was absorbed by the past and the object of curiosity to the many who Citroen in 1965. Emil Levassor, through his wife, the had never seen a steam car. former Madame Sarazin, had great influence on the Riding with them in the car was J o Ann Shutz, fortunes of Gottlieb Daimler whose work survives 24, and her two daughters, Cynthia, 7, and Crissy, 3. that of Panhard et Levassor, in Mercedes-Benz.
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LETTERS TO THE EDITORS
REAR ENGINE MERCEDES Dear Editor: I'm afraid your correspondent Diane Thomas has goofed in her otherwise first class article in the January-February, 1969, issue of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE on the Lajos Haris collec tion in Budapest. The rear-engined Mercedes-Benz may be quite as rare as she says it is, but it wasn't initially, production records showing that no fewer than 9,855 were delivered between 1934 and 1938. The numbers '130' and '170' which she has mistaken Th e Mercedes-Benz Type 130 rear engine tubular backbone as chassis serials are in fact the type designations chass is. and refer to the cylinder capacities in cubic centi meters, the original '130' having a 1,300 c.c. engine THE MUSEUM IN PRAGUE and the later '170' the 1,697 c.c. motor used in the Dear Editor: This is an invitation to Diane Thomas well-known 170 passenger automobile thru 1954 and to visit 1801 Westridge Road, Los Angeles, and ride possibly early 1955: the 170 was certainly listed in in a car purchased in Czechoslovakia during the 1966 London as late as '55. AACA tour of the Narodniho Techickeho Musea. For the record the 130 was introduced in Decem The special train entirely used by the 169 antique ber 1933 and had a tuqular backbone frame with the car enthusiasts that visited Praha must not have motor hung right out over the rear axle. The baggage made much of an impression - even if 35 members lived out front, VW fashion, and here are a few de returned in 1968. Maybe the current director tells tails. Motor 4 cylinder, water cooled, L head, bore all old car clubs, "This is the first time any repre 70 mm., stroke 85 mm., capacity 1308 c. c.: output sentative of any old car club has visited". (See pages 26 bhp: rubber mounted engine: 6v coil ignition: 16-17, January-February '69 GAZETTE). unit gearbox, 3 speeds plus an overdrive engaged by -BILL BARKER a fourth position on the gear lever: twin transverse Los ANGELES, CAL. 90049 independent springs at front, swing axle and coil suspension rear: hydraulic four wheel brakes: under DON'T USE HYDRO-FLOURIC ACID slung worm drive: weight 16 cwt English: speed 55 Dear Editor: mph: 0-50 mph acceleration time 37.2 sceonds, I intended to write as soon as I read Mr. G. Rose (wow). Price in Germany, RM-3200: in U.K. £425 killy's letter in the May-June '68 issue but some for a sedan. thing needing immediate attention made me put it From 1936 the 170H was offered, this being basi off till "tomorrow". cally the same thing with 73.5 x 100 mm, 1697 cc. Now, I'm going to do it before my income taxes. L-head 3-bearing motor developing 38 b.h.p. at I hope it isn't too late. 3,400 r.p.m Mr. Rosekilly seemed to worry only about ruining In 1935 only there was a sport model, the 150H, hard to get parts. Possibly he is not aware of phys which differed in the following respects from the 130 ical injury one could get from H. F. (hydro-flouric and 170 variants: motor in front of rear axle: speed acid). That is what we call it in the oil refinery ster coachwork with vee windshield: 112 liter (91 where I work (Mobil Oil). c.i.) o.h.c. motor: output 55 mhp: overhead worm When we work with or near H.F. we get com drive: speed 78 mph. It was just as much a flop as pletely suited up with protective clothing. Rubber the other two. For your information I saw one in a boots, pants, coat and face shield. corner of Art Austria's garage in Venice, Cal. As We have showers in the H.F. area and if there is an ad for the car was reprinted in one of Floyd an accident or someone gets careless the person Clymer's scrapbooks I think the thing must have needs to wash and soak under the shower and then been (briefly) on the U.S. market. The Daimler Benz it is important to get to a doctor immediately and Museum in Stuttgart has a 170H cabriolet and a if he is not an industrial Doctor, he probably would chassis, and at least two have been around in Eng not know how to treat the burn which is very pain land until recently, both sedans and both auctioned ful. So, STAY AWAY from H.F. (at $125 the pair) at the Smith Sale last summer. * * :;: * They went to Mr. Louwman in the Netherlands. All Just in case all the good things have not yet been these notes are a little rough, but we can amplify said about Mr. Sharpsteen's cover paintings, I would if so desired. like to say I enjoy them very much. -MICHAEL SEDGWICK -ERNEST BLACK SussEx, ENGLAND Los ANGELES, CAL. 9004 7
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VICTOR STEAMER ' don't sit down and write you a letttr of appreciation, Dear Sir: as we certainly should. Two things, first thanks for publishing the picture -JONA THAN TIBBETTS of the Overman Automobile Co's. Victor Steamer CENTRAL VALLEY, CAL. with my letter and second, my apologies for the error in the statement I made: "The Overman Wheel Co. Dear Editor, started up in business in 1897 in Chicopee Falls I wonder how long our club will stay active when Mass .... " The date should have been 1887 for 0~ so few people can take part in the activities. It seems Sep. 7, 1887 Mr. Overman acquired the land and a shame that I can't go on to tour with our 1917 Elcar buildings of the Chicopee Falls Screw Co. in Chicopee or 1923 Kissel. Last month in Hemmings Motor Falls. News, some people in your state were trying to form The Overman Wheel Co. moved from Hartford a club that will take in the newer cars, so they must Conn. to Chicopee, Mass. in October of 1883, settin~ feel the need. I know older and newer cars don't up operation!' !n the Ames Co. buildings. (The Ames mix too well as far as speed and endurance are con Co. made ceremonial swords for years.) Apparently cerned, but I would like to see a change to allow in expanding operations, he needed more space hence automobiles up to at least 1925 participate. If Hem the acquisition of the Chicopee Falls property. Inci mings has 40,000 subscribers, there must be 40,000 dentally, this property purchased was across the people who like old cars. Let's advertise and let them street from that owned by one, Joshua Stevens, know that we are here to further the hobby. founder of the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. and -DELYLE G. BEYER, LIFE MEMBER probably better known for his association with James MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN Frank Duryea in the making of the Stevens-Duryea e REGIONAL GROUPS make their own rules automobile. regarding the age of cars participating in regional A. G. Spalding, as you note, was distributor for activities. Those owning post-1915 cars should be the Victor bicycles and the combination was so suc active in promoting events especially suited to later cessful that A. G. Spalding decided to become a cars. supplier rather than a distributor, a move which in combination with many others marked a fading of the fortunes of the Overman company. Sorry about the mistake, I make lots of them ... -WALLACE s. PHINNEY, SR. SPRINGFIELD, MASS. VICTOR GASOLINE CAR WORLD CAR CATALOG Dear Mr. Miller. EDITED BY SERGIO D'ANGELO. 624 PAGES 9'12" X 11 ". I am writing to let you know how nicely the article NEARLY 5 LBS. 1000 PICTURES. PUBLISHED BY HERALD BOOK PUBLISHERS. NEW YORK. $17.50 on the Victor Automobile was done in the January The all-new edition of the WORLD CAR CATALOGUE February issue. I had no idea these letters would be published on April 1 reflects in impressive fashion the published when I wrote to Dr. Lewerenz for assist recent technical advances in the automotive world. The vast ance on the restoration of this car. I did however feel majority of 1969 cars manufactured on five continents, all t~at the picture of the Victor was a very interesting fully detailed, have incorporated significant innovations in p1cture. both mechanics and styling. Consider, for instance, the new rotary combustion Wankel engine in the Mazda R100 and Dr. Lewerenz is certainly to be commended for Cosmo Sport 110, indirect fuel injection, solid-state ignition, the tremendous effort he puts forth in assisting cooling system with electromagnetic fan, and five-speed m~mbers _on restoration data. He has supplied me transmission. Another interesting development - especially noticeable since last year's models-is the rush this year w1th considerable information which I was unable to on the part of foreign car manufacturers to power-assisted acquire from any other source. controls, automatic and semi-automatic transmissions, lim I am enclosing herewith a check for $2.50. Please ited slip difierentials, dual braking circuits, hydraulic clutch send me 2 copies of the Jan.-Feb. issue of the Ga and other advances, mimy of which have been taken for zette ~~ich I will give to the son and daughter of granted for some time here in the United States. In 624 pages every production car throughout the world the ongmal owner of the Victor car which I have. is detailed. ln the mam section of the book a full page is -DoN McNAY given to each car, however obscure, and illustrated with two SAN ANTONIO, TEX. photographs many of which are in color. One picture shows an overall view and the other beams in on some special feature of design or engineering. Full technical specifica THE GAZETTE tions are given including engine capacity; bore and stroke; Dear Editor: -Best of luck, I thoroughly enjoy the compression ratio; maximum power, torque and rpm; valves; GAZETTE each time it comes, and only regret that cooling system; carburetion; transmission; clutch; number I do not have a pre-1915 car so I could be an active, of gears; axle ratio; chassis; suspension; steering; brakes: rather than an associate, member. Keep up the good electrical system; body; seating; dimensions; weight; wheel base; turning circle; ground clearance and tire size. Also work. A lot of us deeply appreciate all the effort given for each car is performance and maintenance data, going into the club by you fellows, even though we variations and optional accessories as well as prices. 52
From this wealth of information come such interesting extremes as the heavi.est car - almost 3 tons - and the lightest a mere 661 lbs; the most luxurious with a price tag of $31,500 and the most economical about $750; the fastest production car can do 186.4 mph and the slowest only 49.7; the longest is close to 21 feet and the shortest less than 8! Following the main body of text is a full-color section on special bodies by the world's top coachbuilders and a signi ficant appendix devoted to such trend-setters as the Abarth 3-litre, Alfa Romeo 33, Alpine Renault Gordini, Ferrari 612, Ford 3-lit.re, Howmet TX, Matra 3-litre and the Porsche 908. Also found here is a unique feature on the major and minor car manufacturers of the world giving their histories, Rambler Model "Fifty-three" Five-Passenger Touring Car corporate structure, key personnel, activities and addresses. The WORLD CAR CATALOGUE is a masterpiece of AMERICAN MOTORS FAMILY ALBUM organization. Four analytical indexes - by country of Edited by John A. Conde. 148 pages 9" x II ", 525 il lustration s. origin, model, maximum speed and price - direct the reader Department FA , American Motors Corp., Detroit, Mich. 48232. $2.00 immediately to th8 information sought. Approximately 500 This new edition of the Album exhibits pictures of the cars are covered in 1000 pictures and related text. It is several lines of automobiles that merged in Rambler, namely: available nationwide through bookstores and other outlets. The original Rambler by the Thomas B. Jeffery Company, Jeffery, Jeffery Quad Tmck, Nash, LaFayette of 1920, 1967 INDIANAPOLIS 500 MILE RACE Ajax, LaFayette of the 1930s. Hudson, Essex, Terraplane. Ambassador, Nash-Healey, Marlin. Metropolitan, Rebel, YEARBOOK (TWO BOOKS) 1967 AND 1968 A.M.X., and Javelin. This is a remarkable documentation of Edited by Hans Tanner. 172 pages 81f2" x lOW'. Published by Fl oyd an automotive family tree at an extremely low price which Clymer, 222 N. Virgil , Los Angeles, Col. 90004. ( 1967) $3.00, ( 1968) should interest every collector of automobiliana. It is sure $4.00 (more pages). to spark the conversation in any social affair, for one or One of the most important racing events of the world is another of these cars is almost certain to have been of spe the Indianapolis 500 which has been run each Memorial cial significance to each of the group assembled. Day since 1911 (with few wartime exceptions) . Floyd Clymer One error crept in on the bottom of page 20 where a has rendered a great service in presenting a chronological Stevens-Duryea is captioned 1914 Hudson 54, but it is an account of each of the races in a volume compiled in 1941 excellent picture. Pages 131, 132 and 133 pay honor to covering the history of the track from 1909 to 1941. Subse other makes of automobiles such as: Simplex, Lozier, West quent race year-books have been issued to bring the records cott, Regal, Case, Franklin, Dorris, Cadillac, Packard, up to date. (These are listed with prices and availability of Stevens-Duryea, Chalmers, King, Velie, Mitchell, Oakland, each in the current issues). Racing fans should obtain a set Locomobile and Moline Knight. All of these were fitted of the books while they are still available as the suppli es of with Seaman Bodies made by a subsidiary of Nash Motors. some years have already been exhausted. Where can you find more enjoyment for $2.00? FOREIGN & AMERICAN CAR COLOR PRINTS SMITHSONIAN COLLECTION OF Drawn by Edmund Johns. 9" x 121f2" printed on egg-shel l paper. AUTOMOBILES AND MOTORCYCLES $1.50 each. Published by Prescott-Pickup & Co. Ltd., Bridgnorlh, By Smith He mpstone Oliver & Donald Berkebile. 164 pages 81/4 x Salop, England. U. S. Distributor: Le Roy King , 4815 Allencrest, 91/4". Published by the Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington, Dallas, Texas 75234. D.C. Distributed by Random House , Inc. $4.95, cloth, $2.95, so ft These meticulously authentic art sketches will add consid cover. erable brilliance to your hobby room decorations. A series of The n;1ore than forty vE!hi'Cles in the Smithsonian collec 100 is promised by the publisher of which about 28 selec tion mark major milestones in automotive history: they tions are now available: - 1907 White Steam Limousine, are testimony to a technological revolution which has trans 1910 Ford T Roadster, 1904 Turner-Miesse Steamer. 1932 formed American society in this century. This handbook Alfa-Romeo, 1907 Rover, 1920 London General Omnibus describes and illustrates each of these remarhible machines. double decker and other desirable vehicles. The authors, both intimately connected with the institute, Also available is a series of railway prints both of steam also tell of the men who pioneered automotive development. locomotives and electric street cars. Among the cars covered are the Duryea Brothers first car, 1893, the Haynes, 1894, and the Olds of 1897. Steam vehicles include the Long Steam Tricycle, 1880, the Loco mobile, 1900 and White, 1902. The Mack Bulldog truck, Indian motorcycle, electric cars and scale models of various historic vehicles gives a hint of the scope of this important book.
The 1893 Duryea, America's First Gasoline Automobile. Now on display at the Smithsonian Institute, Washington, D.C.
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I I' -·------1 ·j contemporary style C- gold coved borders antique style A- free form distressed borders 1913 American Underslung • 1910 Stanley Steamer • 1910 Simplex • 1911 Locomobile PRICE: $5.50 plus 50c postage each. SAVE by buying the set of 4 for $20.00 and we will prepay postage anywhere in U.S.A. Please specify style of border and make of auto. Style C- Contemporary - Go ld Coved Border or Style A - Antique- free-form brown di stressed border. SIZE: 111/ 2 by 14 inches. Send your check or money order to: JEROME D. BIEDERMAN COLLECTION II 9348 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD • BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORN IA 90210 Ca lifornia Residents add 5% Sales Tax. 54
BEARING FIT Cliff Jamison from Fresno has this to say about ·------~ sloppy fits in bearings: "Many times when repairing or restoring your antique automobile you find a ball bearing or roller bearing is loose in the bearing housing. Sometimes this requires the housing to be ma chined by boring, and sleeved to the right size for the bearing. By using a small amount of Lock-Tite, or Stay YOUR REPAIR AND RESTORATION SUGGESTIONS Lock, and letting it set overnight, the next WILL BE APPRECIATED BY morning the bearing is firmly set in place. Care Vaun E. Rodgers must be used not to get any Lock-Tite on a 407 Lombardy, El Paso, Texas 79922 roller or ball of the bearing as it will also become solid. ~------~ One time the author had a loose fan pulley on which will be very helpful to anyone not familiar a Model T Ford crankshaft which rattled and with the many applications and what it can do." made an annoying sound. With a small amount of Lock-Tite and set overnight, the pulley never THREAD GALLING gave anymore trouble. The above takes care of the loose fits but how Another example, a 1913 Buick transmission about the other side of the coin? Often the spark bearing was loose because of the motion of the plugs will gall in the block, especially if it is alumi clutch shaft backward, and forward motion num, and shear off the threads. Parts that must be caused the housing to wear out. This housing removed from time to time should be coated with was machined out to fit a larger bearing. This "Never-Seez" made by Never-Seez Compound Ltd., new bearing became loose by the same strain as Box 2642, Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Whenever dis the original. It was impossible to machine any simular metals are used together such as steel bolts more metal out. Again a small amount of Lock and aluminum or brass castings, clean the threads Tite made a permanent repair. first, then apply a thin coat of the compound. Ex There are many places where this product ceptionally good results can be expected on Model can be used to keep our antiques running. T exhaust pipe nuts when considering the hacksaw Lock-Tite or Stay-Lock comes in various grades is second choice. for different amounts of wear to be sealed, and Valve cage seals are another good place for use of different applications. There is also a solvent the product as well as on valve cage retainer nuts. to loose a seal, or 450 degrees heat will also RADIATOR CAPS loosen Lock-Tite for removal of a bearing or With warm weather upon us, it's past time to look shaft. at the cooling system again. Most early cars were Both brands of sealant comes in various grades designed for a zero pressure cooling system. for the following application - Slip fits, Press A clogged overflow pipe or one that is restricted fits, Locking stud bolts (3 grades), for mount by a rubber gasket that has swollen up from grease ing bearing, Locking nuts (6 grades) and redi or oil penetration can cause pressure rise in the forms gaskets . . system. A 2 lb. to 3 lb. presure increase can cause Lock-Tite product is made by Lock-Tite Corp., four to five degrees engine temperature increase, Newington, Conn. Stay-Lock by Broadview cause tanks to bulge, cores to deflect, and reduce the Chemical Corporation, Broadview, Ill. Many radiator life 20 to 100 per cent if it should blow a bearing supply houses carry either one of these seam. products in stock. A brochure can be obtained With the cap in place, slip a hose over the end
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AUTOCAR 1903 2 cyl ...... Roadster CADILLAC 1906 4 cyl. Model "H" .. Touring Needed: Cam cover for engine, Buggy type top, Dietz (No Needed: Floor accelerator and linkage, carburetor, governor. Bail) side & tail lamps, Hub caps, one 14 spoke 30 x 3 R. C. Sprague, Jr., Williamstown, Mass. 01267 1 wheel, splitdorf coil box (71/ 2 x 7% x 3 /2 ) . DETROITER 1912 to 17 4 or 8 cyl. ... Any body Mark Shetler, 12592 Charloma Drive, Tustin, Calif. 92680 Needed: Radiator emblem (Old English Script) hub caps, BUGATTI 1927 Grand Prix manuals and catalogues, correspondence with D etroiter N eeded: Clock, Tachometer, oil and air pressure gauges, owners. hand air pump, and rear shock absorbers. Top prices paid. Ronald J . Putz, 1801 So. Warner Ave., Bay City, Michigan Dave Allison, 2013 S. Beverly Glen Blvd., Los Angeles, 48707 Calif. 90025 (213) 474-6105 E.M.F. 1910 4 ...... Touring BUICK 1907 2 cyl. Model "F" .. ... Touring Needed: Engine, brass radiator, wheel rings, body sections. Needed: Front cyl. and jacket or engine, complete top with Lamps, coil box, headlite forks. bows and irons, any operating and maintenance manuals, Jim Smailes, 18 Enslee, Cochocton, Ohio 43812 Schebler Carb. R. C. Sprague, Jr.; Williamstown, Mass. 01267 FORD 1911 4 T ...... Speedster BUICK 1932 4 door Sed Mod 50 Needed: 1909-13 T-engine good, chassis, 5 wire wheels, Needed: 9 lengths window run chanel - crankhole cover house or else, rear-front end. Steering column complete. - headlite tie bar & bolts, 1 eye - running brd., mats & All letters answered. mldgs. Nat. Adelstein, 1776 Calhoun St., Trenton, N . J . 08638, Walt Robb, 5727 Milmar Dr., N., Jacksonville, Fla. 32207 Phone 609-393-1776 or 215- CY 5-8022. CHEVROLET !Baby Grandi 1919 Model F.B. Touring GRAHAM PAIGE 1930 6 cyl. 6STD. Sedan Needed: Touring body - seats or back section of touring Needed: Right front door handle, one hood latch, head body. Rear fenders. lights, hub cap, owner's manual and front bumper clamps. Carter P. Helmick, 10550 S.W. 80th, Portland, Oregon Harold Thue, 615 West 14th Ave., Mitchell, S. D. 57301 97223, 244-9190 LITTLE 1912 4 cyl...... Roadster aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Needed: Hub caps, side curtains, motor fan, headlights, horn. of the overflow pipe and blow. A restriction can be M. G. Randall, Box 238, Houghton Lake Heights, Mich felt immediately. If the cap is supposed to have a igan 48630 hole in it, probe it with a wire to make sure that it is PIERCE ARROW 1936 8 cyl. Model 1601 Conv. Cpe. open. Make sure hoses in the system are sound with Needed: Right auxiliary headlight lens and reflector, pat tern for rumble seat cushion and backrest. no rotted rubber flapping loose on the inside. Drain John F. Peters, Valley, Nebraska 68064 the water and flush out the block and install clean water. Add a good corrosion preventive additive sold A BOOK ON ANTIQUE CA RS by most parts supply houses. A foam inhibitor should TOP AND UPHOLSTERY be listed as one of its ingredients. AND BODY RESTORATIONS EARLY COIL MARKINGS Some early wood coils are found to have as many 40 pictures of restored and special built as five thumbs screws with markings such as G. I, cars and over 80 pi ctures, names and num Z, D, & C. While manufacturers use different letters, bers of fasteners so you wi II know what the above are identified thus: G-ground, I-inter fasteners to use on your car. ruptor or points, Z-zinc or outside of the dry cell Many Suggestions on How To Do If. battery, D-distributor or center of the distributor All antique car fans, top shops and cap, C-carbon or center of the dry cell. upholstery shops should have this book. SOMETH IN G TO REMEMBER Price $3.00 - No C. 0. D. Keep your eye on the people along side of the road for they may start to cross without warning, WM. L. "BILL" FESSLER Dykes Encyclopedia, 1914. 4509 Fairmount, Kansas City, Mo. , U.S.A. Zip 64111 56
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6 Wheels & Tires (Jumbo), 1 1910 T gas tank touring car, 1915 Buick Model C-37 Touring. Chassis, engin e, seats 1 ? Round gas tank, 3 30x3Y2 tires, 3 30x3 tires some restored. No rust on body, $2,250.00 or offer. Floyd Calvo tubes?, 1 T engine head, pan trans & hogs head, with, P.O. Box 1, Carlotta, Calif. 95528. 707-768-3413. exh & int. manifold, 1 A engine head, pan, trans, with, exh. & int. manifold. 1 A radiator and shell, 1 T radiator 14 consecutive years Horse less Carriage Gazette 1955 Brass, 3 A gas tanks, 3 A hoods, 1 A head, ]· Overland through 1968. All issues complete and in mint condition. 14 or 15 diff & trans. with ring gear, 1 Lot Misc. A parts, $175.00 firm. F.O.B., Joe Kizis, 428 Clark Lane, Orange, 2 Wheel locks. Sold lot on ly $300.00. John Nagel, 25320 Connecticut, 06477. Curti ss Way, Torrance 90505. 326-9303. 1936 Chrysler Airflow, sound & all original w ith many 1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham. This ou tstanding limit spares nice all around except 1 bent fender, these are ed production special Cadillac is in exce ll ent original getting scarce, beat the rising prices on this one for on ly condition. Exterior black with stain less steel top. Black $750.00. Need Space. Photos $1.00. Autoville In c. Box and white leather interior with genuine black mouton fur AO, Apopka, Fla. 32703. Ph. 305-8892921. carpeting. Original cost nearly $14,000. Factory air con ditioning. First $4200 buys it. K. Mausolf, 3435 South "Neverout" license plate and tail lamp bracket 1911 pat Broadway, Englewood, Colorado (303) 798-4027. ent, extra nice original, not reproduction. (see Hemmings Page 428 for picture) $5.50 postpaid. Bill Ullri ch, Here 3 Wire wheels for '3 1 Chev. with tires mounted and in ford, Ai rzona 856 15. flated. Y2 tread left. $30.00. New tie-rod bolts & bushings for Model T $1.00 ea. Many other T parts new. Owner's 1948 Lincoln Continental Coupe V- 12. This fine car was manual for J effrey Model 671. All parts illu strated. (Back acquired from origina l owner. Always serviced by original cover missing) $10.00. L. Ray Hove 5606 Clinton Ave. dealer. In storage 1960- 1968, 34,000 miles. Painted, up Minneapolis, Minn. 55419. holstered, re-chromed, new tires - 1968. Overdrive, under coated. Com pi ete $2500.00. Photo 50¢ SASE. F. D. Smythe 1929 Hupps sport coupe, 34 Cad V8 Coupe, 36 Graham, 3508 Woodland Rd., Bartiesville, Oklahoma 74003. 9 18- 38 Graham, 37 01 ds, 38 La Sa ll e V8 sport sedan, 39 Cad 333-5843. V8 Fleetwood 75 sport sedan, $2800 for al l. S.A.E. for I isting of parts, steam literature etc. Rex Altman, 1232 Motor Trend, Mar. 1950 to present; missing Oct. 1950, A lder Ave., Lewiston, Id aho 83501. Apr. 1951, Dec. 1952, $30.00. H.C.C. Gazette, Vol. 11, No. 4 Dec. 1949 to present, complete $50.00. Also many 1960 Studebaker Hawk, in ve ry good condition, one small Speed Age, Hot Rod, Old shop manuals, wiring, inter rust spot, motor and everything very good. $395. Will fin change parts, brakes, Mallory ignition, Winfield, Diesel. ance half. Louis lzydore, 838 Grant Ave., Duquesne, Pa. Terry Hughes, 139 Charles, Banning, Calif. 92220. (7 14) 15110, Phone, 412-466-1535. No collect ca ll s. 849-2907.
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FOR SALE 1937 Packard Model 115c 4 door sedan, rebuilt engine, Complete set of 21" wheels with demountable rims, lugs, new top, headliner, seat covers, battery, new chrome on etc. supposed to be off of Buick. 1906 Buick top com bumpers and grille, like new tires, no dents or rust. Can plete with bows, sockets, straps, and front curtain. Good be driven anywhere. Color, Packard Green $900.00. C. W. condition but material good for pattern only. C. A. Fan Felker, 928 Victoria Drive, Arcadia, Calif. 91006 Ph. : ucci, 5043 Winkle Ave., Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060. 213-447-7503. 1929 Nash 4 door sedan. Dual side mounts, wood wheels. 1904 Pierce Motorette, Stanhope model with folding front Restorable$300.00. 1916 Velie engine & rear end, $50.00. seat. Serial No. 97. Excellent Condition. Firm price, $6, F.O.B. North Dakota license Plates 1914 to 1964$50.00. 500. Jos DeiFave, Box 46, Churchville, N.Y. 14428. Ph.: Ruff's Pioneer Museum, Box 443, Jamestown, No. Dakota 716-293-3270. 58401.
1925 Dodge Sedan Restored, needs minor exhaust, interior 1940 Cad. 4 door sedan- original- $1600.00. 1934 Stude trim work. Two 1918 Era Chevrolets, one with rough tour Pres. 6 chrome wheels, fender wells original- complete ing body, one with rearend, body, motor head missing, $750. 1914 T roadster dis-assembled not complete $500. parts missing on both, 1919 Era Overland Touring, rough. Durward Brown, 618 Murray Dr., Alva, Okla. 73717. Phone MUST SELL ALL CARS TOGETHER $1500. Duane Phil 1-405-327-0360. lips, 6589 Kuttshill Dr., Rockford, Michigan 49341. Brass items, mint-Bulb horn shaped like snake $50.00; One 1930 or 1931 Model A head light, $10.00; two head 3-trumpet bulb horn $12.00; large brass side mirror for light lens and chrome frame for 1939 Ford, $10.00; one early car $15.00; 1932 Chevrolet horn $15.00; 1929 Gra 1929 Cadi Ilac gastank; $12.00; one model A Ford dash ham -Paige tail-light (nice) with script lens $20.00; early with amp, gauge, $5.00. Shipping costs extra. Alfred L. Indian motorcycle script gas tank $45.00. Add postage. Fifield, 3982 Edwards Ave., Oakland, Calif. 94605. 362- SASE please. Pictures $1.00. Richard Hurlburt, 27 West 0398. St., Greenfield, Mass. 01301. Phone 413-773-3235.
1931 Ford Delux Sedqn, $250. Circa 1920 White truck dif 1928 Chrysler 4 dr. sedan. Model 72. Completely restored ferential, fits large truck, $40. '16-'251eft rear "T" road except for paint and upholstery. Spare engine and misc. ster or coupe fender, $15. '28-'29 "A" gravel pan (under parts. $800.00. Bob Robbins, 2816 Granada Ave., San radiator), $10. Tom Chaney, 3247 Bonita Mesa Rd., Bon Diego, Calif. 92104. Ph. 284-0933. ita, Calif. 92002. (714) 479-7597. 1938 V-8 Cadi I lac 4 dr. Sport Sedan, complete, restorable 1913 Buick 4 cyl. Model 25 Touring. Blue, right hand $650.00. 1931 Franklin parts car, $75.00. 1921 American drive, mint condition, excellent tour car, winner of many La Franc fire truck, restoration started, nice $1,350.00. trophies, $5,500.00. Also 1915 Ford Model T touring, Need help, restoring 35-36 Auburn Boattail Speedster Warford transmission, rocky mountain brakes, black, re body parts, any leads appreciated. Carl Vleck 1516-llth cently overhauled, a very fast car, $2250.00 Both for - St. Bellevue, Nebraska 68805. $7500.00. See or call Peter Franchi, 1661 lOth Ave., Sac ramento, Calif. 95818. Phone (916) 443-4375. Hubcaps for various cars of the 20's and 30's. Also one threaded brass hubcap for Locomobile, Circa 1914-1915. 1911 Chalmers 30 touring, completely restored $11,000.00. Send SASE with sketch and dimensions for sure identifi All other cars in orig. condition. '31 Marmon, 70 convt., cation. Also have good radiator cap for 1935 Studebaker, $1500.00, '30 Willys - Knight coupe rumble seat $1500. bird in oval ring with 3 prong cap. $36.50 P.P. and in '37 La Salle Coupe Opera $1800. '30 Franklin 4 dr. 6 wire sured. Irvin Blonder, 1119 W. Orange Grove, Burbank, Cal. wheel $2500. '27 Stutz SV16 Convt. $3600. '40 Buick 91502. Super 4 dr. , $350.00. Rig Petri, 805 Ford St., Burbank, Calif. 91505. 213-762-0911 or 763-7261. Head Gaskets; 1914-40. Auburn 1917, Chalmers 1917-18, Dart 1916-17, Jewett 1915-19, Mitchell 1917-22, Oakland 1909 Fritchlie Electric Opera Coupe. Good condition. 1916-25,01dsmobile 8 1916-23, Reo 1920-26, Many others Needs batteries, $3300. 1918 Cadillac Surburban, run in Edward A. Thomas, 1103 N. Airport Way, Stockton, Cali f. 1966 $3300. Sears autobuggy, good condition $2500. Cur 95205. tis Paxman, 11945 Olive St., Norwalk, Calif. 90650. Ph .: UN 4-4236 code 213. Horseless Carriage Gazettes, complete set starting with Volumn 15 through Volumn 30, 1953 through 1968. 93 is 1922 Ford engine in running condition with timer, carbur sues, $60.00. S. L. Guttridge, Jr. 6708 Brookwood Circle, etor, water pump, coil box and cover, round gas tank with Jonesboro, Ga . 30236. brackets and cap, very good low radiator with cap, two front wheels with demountable rim s (30x3Y2), spare tire Pioneer Automobile Club of California emblem as pictured rack, torque tube and U joint. $100. F.O.B. Bill Ullrich, in the Jan. Feb. Gazette, $5.00. H. L. Jennison, 1561 S. Hereford, Ari zona 85615. E. Linn St., Portland, Ore. 97202. 58
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Packard Patrician. 1955, 46,683 miles. One owner, not Manual, Operation and care, for 1929 Pierce-A rrow, stra an old woman in Pasadena wearing tennis shoes but an ight eight, excellent reproduction, $15.00. Tommy Pitman, o ld woman in Los Angeles wearing shoes of the moment 2533 Sweetbriar, Dallas, Texas 75228. with a zest for living. Poor eyes and bad heart prevent her driving. Transmission, battery and tires in good shape. New Packard 32-37 Cormorants and caps, 38-48 Cormor $800.00. Mrs. Clifford Wright, 454 0. Irving Blvd. , Los ants. 12 hub cap medallions, a ll grill medallions, head Angeles, Calif. 90005. Phone 934-0483. light lens, all years literature, SEE-RITE strap on mir rors, brake/ clutch pedal pads $7.00 pr. New heater swit 1929 Vintage Bentley, 4 72 Litre tourer. Excellent condi ches, light switches, wiper blades, bulbs, Trippe Light tion. Needs little to be mint. Not blown, racing fenders. Lens, switches, wrenches, parts. Tom Dunaway, Box 1774 So li d wa lnut trunk on rear. New top and leather. $11,500. Anderson, S.C. 29621. Robert J. Fithian, 6234 Market Street, Youngstown, Ohio 216-758-2327 or 757-2971. 1948 Lincoln Continenta l Club Coupe Mark 1 with 49 V8 Lincoln engine just been overhauled and a complete 1940 1914 Ford Roadster, 100 miles since mint restoration. Vl2 engine with it $1800. Also 1949 DeSoto Custom 4, Yellow body, black fenders. Rocky Mountain brakes. A dr. Sedan in mint condition $750.00. Karl Jernes, 1334 rea l going "T", $3,750.00 Firm. 1919 Ford Truck, Nat N. E. Saratoga St., Port Iand, Ore. 97211, ional second winner 1967. Al l so lid oak cab and bed nat ural finish . A real beauty. $2,750.00. 1936 Rolls-Royce 1940 Studebaker "Napolian" 4 door sedan orig inal every Phantom Ill Owen-Gurney-Nutting Saloon, engine convert thing. First owner, runs well and daily. Price $500.00 ed and excel lent. Body needs paint and interior work. firm. Mrs. Charles Ramp, 2460 E. Chevy Chase Drive, Sound throughout. $5,500.00. Robert J. Fithian, 6234 Mar Glendale, California 91206. ket St., Youngstown, Ohio. 216-758-2327 or 757-2971. 1954 Packard Cavalier Sedan, 22,000 actual miles, air Severa l thousand original automobile ads. Full pages tak cond. $1475. Take drivable Model A Packard, or Maxwell en from magazines. 149 different makes from Abbott-Det for approx. 1/ 3. Wire wheels for 1941 to 54 Packard $250. roit to Winton. Ads date from 1902. No Ford ads. Priced Owners manuals for 51 to 56 Packard $7.00 to $12.00, 50¢ to $1.00. Send SAE for comp lete li st. Howard Eich Frank White, 2058 California St., Denver, Colo. 90205.
ling, Rt. 10 11 Box 106-B, San Antonio, Texas 78213. Rare 1938 English Austin Seven Roadster, minus top, nice Classic 54 Packard Clipper, super 2-door sedan. Last of to restore $850.00. 1905-06 Rambler metal parts, $150.00. the straight 8's. Great condition with less than 40,000 Large Brass radiator, square hole, crank hole up into rad miles, radio, heater, auto-trans. Licensed and ready to iator core, $125.00. 2 good 5.25x21 Conquest tires, one go! $395.00. F. Guldenbrein, 717 Vervais Ave., Vallejo, with tube & rim, $45.00. 6 cy l Continental Airplane op Calif. 94590. (707-644-2368) posed engine. Write, Val Chickinell, 36 Country Club Rd., Ralston, Nebraska 68127. 1937 Buick Century, 4 dr., trunk sedan. Decided not to restore a sedan so I have this car al l disassembled and 1916 Overland radiator, Model 75. Crated. $35.00 FOB. wi ll sel l all these parts that are in very good condition, Robert A. Burtness, 223 W. Victoria St., Apt. 11, Santa body, motors, fenders. I have mostly everything. Send me Barbara, Calif., 93104. your Needs. SSAE. Nat. Adelstein, 1776 Calhoun St., Trenton, N.J. 08638. Phone 609-393-1776 or 215-CY58022. New copy "The Longest Auto Race" book in dust jacket by and autographed by George Schuster, winner 1908 New 1922 Mercer sport 5 pass. touring, original and complete York-Paris race, 80 black-white photos and Peter Heick with a ll extras including owners ma11ual, bill of sale, & color plate, postpaid, insured $7.50. Tom Mahoney, 31 sales literature, tools 2nd owner, no reproductions it's Sunrise Lane, Poughkeepsie, New York, 12603. original in every respect. Can drive anywhere. Make offer, Can't drive anymore a big car. Wil l take small car in trade Brass Eagle radiator ornament 3" Tall, 2-7/ 8" wingspread if wanted. Nat. Adelstein, 1776 Calhoun St., Trenton, Mint $9.50. Just found several more pairs New mint Side N.J. 08638. Phone 609-393-1776 or 215-295-8022. mount Mirrors, Chromed, with different length chains, state I ength needed for your wheel s, some with straps or chains New tubes for your Model A 475 · 19 and 440-21 $7.95 for for Model A, $47.00 pair, prepaid Polaroids 35¢. AI Davis set of 4. Ship weight 272 lb s. ea. FOB Omaha. H. D. Leas Box 2060C-RI, Apache Junction, Ariz. 58220. 4186 Cass, Omaha, Nebraska. 1931 Durant Roadster, not compl e te, but restorabl e. Good 1914 Head lamps, $35.00, bras s radiator, 60 pounds, core metal, needs new wood. Missing rear fende rs, top bows , size 20" x 21" $40.00. 1929 Hudson Chassis with axles, smal l things. $495.00 or reasonable offer. Wanted 1930 19'' wire wheels, 1928 Bui ck Master, less body. Runs. Cadillac rear fender s from short coup led sedan and "32" Five exce llent whippet rims and wheels with hub caps. Ford Roadster fenders and parts, Harold Jones, 801 West David lrmen, P.O. Box 16105, Long Beach, California. " B" St., Colton, Calif. 92324 (7 14) 825-2971.
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FOR SALE 1936 Rolls Royce 25-30 Limosine (7 passenger). Coach work by Rippon. Sunroof, near mint $4500. MGTC 1949, Excellent $1950. 1938 Bentley 4l;,l litre sports saloon. Ex cellent, $3500. 1951 Rolls Royce Silver Wraith Hearse, excellent. Seen little use, $3950. 1953 Daimler conver table, coachwork by Barker, 22,000 original miles, silver and. black, excellent $3250. SSAE, Dave Levin, 2835 W. North Shore Ave., Chicago, Illinois 60645. Phone: 312- 262-5965.
1911 Renault "Buttercup" 2 cyl. 9 H.P. Roadster with dickey. Coachwork by Conn of London. Immaculate, pro fessionally restored. S. F. Edge award, third best of show and nine other awards, $9,500 or trade for large car. B. J. Missimer, 915 Via Fruteria, Santa Barbara, Calif. 93105.
Jeffery 6 cyl. touring, partly restored, a big car that runs good and cruises easily at higher speeds, $4250. For in formation and location of car, write, F. Andersen, 1055 Polk Ave., Sunnyvale, Cali f. 94086.
Four wheels, Hupmobile (?). All have brake drums, a few spokes damaged, 20" outside diameter of steel felloe, in cludes front and rear axels, $50.00. W. R. Crawford, 9501 Desert Ridge, El Paso, Texas 79925.
Authentic 1915 Model "T" Roadster, all original except paint, top & upholstery. Completely restored 1958. Stored inside, driven 1000 mi.~$2500. L. Ray Hove, 5606 Clinton Ave., Minneapolis, Minn. 55419. (612) 866-4321.
1926 Cadillac, 7 pass. Tourer, V-8, Model 314. Sidemount spare, rear trunk rack, original, unrestored, $2,000.00. Sam - Sherman, 88-08 32 Ave., E. Elmhurst, N.Y. 11369.
1915 Dort touring, beautifully and completely restored. Very low mileage. Rare museum piece and dependable tour car. Best offer over $3,000. 1908 Maxwell runabout, dis assembled, partially restored. A nice brass auto to fini s h restoring, $1,600. George L. Fryer Ill, 1678 Mallory St., Apt. 1, Jacksonville, Florida 32205. Phone: 1-904-388- 1214.
1913 Ford Roadster & pickup combination, fully restored, 17 coats of lacquer, new tires, new radiatpr, excel I ant - condition, new tandem trailer built spec ial, electric & hydralic brakes, fitted marine cover, $4850.00 or make offer. Wi II consider trade for Packard or any good touring car, with wheels or tires, mounted in front fenders. H. A. Beighley, 241 W. Main, American Fork, Utah 84003.
1920 Cadillac Rdster, dual rear mounted spares, rumble seat, fat man steering wheel $3450. J. E. Bortz, 9525 N. 0 zark, Morton Grove, Ill . 312-965-5251.
1913 Overland Model 71T. 24 Volt USL e lectric starter. Five years since restoration. Leak in lower water mani fold. NON-SKID tires 50% tread. $4500. Samuel K. Hodg son, 3908 Greenbrier Drive, Dallas, Texas 75225. (2 14) 361 -6348. 60 BEl\VICE Dil\EOTOl\Y antique clothes FOR SALE : An<:que c lothing an d acc e ssone s lor HCC fun ct io n s. S uit s . D resses. Jewelry . Pett i CO at s. Parasols. Bl o use s . Feathers. Buttons and Tnmm1ngs. BOXES WILL BE SENT ON CONSIGNMENT TO RESPONSIBLE PARTIES. \626 No. 46th St. MRS. EVELYN DOYER Phoenix, Arixono' When in Scottsdale, Arizona do visit "Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe" lor all your Antique Clothing needs . 43 East first Avenue !Pima Pla1ol Tel. : 947-3061 ENGINE ,ARTS MADE TO ORDER
p~ Valves - Valve Guides - Valve Springs Put New Life~ Since 1912 A Bushings - Alloy PIStons - PISton Rings - Pricele~~t~:~~~se 0 u~·ALITY R King Bolts - Pin Bushings and Piston Pins Model Cars lJU with ... T IN ANY OVERSIZE ~ S ,· PHONE 1814 SO . GRA~D AVENUE Jahns has been making custom pi stons for the automotive r<; c (213) 748-3700 LOS ANGELES 15, CALIF. industry practically from the tim e the horse le ss carriage was introduced . If you have a piston probl em th at's keep ing your antique in th e garage, don't despa ir. Writ e our factory. --CURRENT RESTORATIONS-- OQOOOOOOOOOOO G A s K E ' s 1914 MINERVA • LE RHONE 80 • 19 26 BENTLEY 1905 FORD (2 cylinder) • 1912 CASE (4 cyl ind er) o0o0~0o0 o FOR ALL ENGINES ~
2662 Lacy Street I Los Angeles, California 90031 Custom· made copper and asbestos cylinder head, manifold and ex Telephone : (213) 225·8177 or (213) 225·1568 haust gaskett. for all makes and models of antique, foreign, racing, marine, Oie1el and industrial equipment. Will need old ga1ket or pattern for sample. a#"JF SILENT TIMING CHAINS~~ ALSO We have available an auortment of new stock head and manifold Custom Made To Original Specifications go1kets for can 1916 to 1948. State your needs; give make, mod•/, Write for full information ...: ill year of cor, etc. 1~1 1~1 RAMSEY PRODUCTS CORPORATION :•\ 724 Gesco St. Tel.: 704 376-64 77 ~ ~ HEAD GASKET COMPANY C/ 0 Fred Stelli~ 465 Bryant Street Charlotte, North Carolina 28208 Son Francisco, Colifornio PHoN< EX brook 7-3111
FOR SALE 1913 Hup Touring Ur $750.00, 1917 Overland Touring Ur 6-Martin 700x19-6 ply wide whitewall, low-mileage tires, $450.00. 1927 Ford Coupe $250.00. 1925 Ford Sedan$450. (2 spares haven't been used) New tubes in boxes. Nylon, 1926 Ford Roadster $350.00. 1940 Mereu ry 4 door con v. $275.00. W. B. Ham I in, 229 E. Rosewood Dr., Ontario, $350.00. 1929 Ford Phaeton Rough $300.00. 1938 Lincoln Calif. 9 1762. Zepher coupe Good$750.00. 1930Model A Roadster $ 1400. Real Nice 1920 Buick Opera Coupe $1800.00. Send $1.00 Severa I thou sand ori gina I automobi le ads dating from 1902 for list of parts and cars. Tom Donahue, Scottsbluff, Neb. representing 146 different makes. Excellent conditi on. No Ford ads. 50¢ to $1.00 each postpaid in large envel Genuine Radiator Scrolls. 17 of them, a lso 15 reproduct ope. Stamped envelope for free li st. Howard Eichling, Rt. ion s. All for $500. Pictures 25¢. Neil C. Ensworth, 7226 10, Box 106-B, San Antonio, Texas 78213. 4th Ave., So. St. Petersburg, Fla. For 191 3 Overland 79T, water manifold casting pattern, $60.00. Early Chevy (?) truck windshield, $20.00. Axle 1924 Dodge 4 Touring. 7 good tires 2 unused Goodyear with hubs and springs for trailer, $20.00. Tom Sauer, 1132 Diamond tread. 80% restored. Ne eds top cloth, uphol., and Atlee Drive, La Canada, Cal. 91011 (213) 790-6165. rear seat springs. 1969 Ne v. tags. Chassis and disc whe e ls, painted, body primed, $1500.00, or near offer. Also 1915 Inter State in excell ent running order. Like new re 1926 Dodge 4 cyl. % ton screen s id e delivery. Restored storation. Possibly on ly authentic T Mode l left. Beaver except upholstering, finish paint, one glass, and roll down 19.6 HP eng in e. 7 passenger touring car. Top, upholstery, curtains, wood wheels, new tires, 69 Nev. tags. (recent everything like new. Beautiful natural wood spokes. A 200 mil e trip) $1750.00 or trade on good pre 1916. J. C. genuine collectors item. $3900. Larry A. Hart, 210 N. Cen Wagn e r, 3420 Foothill Blvd., Oroville, Ca l. 95965. tral Expressway, Dallas, Texas 75201.
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FOR SALE 1937 Packard Model 110, 4 door convertible, 8 cylin ders, double metal covered s ide mounts, radio, orig in al except new top (not installed) $2195. 1931 Model A Ford Coupe, standard, 5 origina l wire wheels, runs OK $995. 1928 C hevrolet Cabriolet, soft top, rumble seat, disc whee ls $ 1075. Ralph Day, Jr., East Hold~n, Maine 04429. Tel.: Eddington 843-6331.
Split rim wrench $5.00. New AC oi l gauge circa 1925-32 $2.00, new fuel pump repair kit 1930-37 fits many cars. Want bumpers for 1920 Oakland, rim for 32x4 tire 24", al so Buddy-L toys. C. Henry Stratmeyer, Jr., 19 Daniel Rd., St. Louis, Missouri 63124.
Trailer: Custom built tandem-axle su itabl e for medium to Rare! Circa 1900-?, radiator tubes solid copper, hairpin larg e size cars. Has everything lights, fenders, springs, type fins, 27 inches long, excel lent condition, non leak 4 wheel brakes, deluxe cover to protect car & can also be and cou ld be easi ly shortened etc., $20.00 each or $200. used as a camping trailer. For complete details and pict for a ll fourteen. Also exc. 1928-29 Ford AA radiator she ll ures, write to, Tom J. Patris, 3555 Afton Road, San Diego, fair, emblem chipped, $40.00. L. J. Gomolak, 2417 Wooded Calif. 92123. Acres Drive, Waco, Texas 767 10.
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Literature Wanted; Lozier Manuals, Books, Sales Liter For 1915 Chevrolet, Series H, 25" wood felloe wheels, ature 1910 thru 1912. Cycle and Automobile Trade Jour carbide lights, radiator shell, hub caps, comp lete engine, nal 1910 thru 1912. Motor Magazine 1910 thru 1912. Ken or complete parts car. Also want 191 8 or 1919 Chevrolet Pearson, Box 189, Algonquin, Illinoi s 60102. Truck. M. G. Randall, Box 238, Houghton Lake Heights, Michigan 48630. Phone (517) 422-5444. 1915 Olds radiator or parts car, any parts or information on Grout cars or the Grout factory, A.A.C.A. Magazines, One or two cy linder car in complete origina l or restored Vol. 1 No. 1 to Vol. 6 No. 4. Leo Gay, 2511 Allanjay Pl., conditi on; want pre-1919 Ford c losed body car; 1915-16 Glendale, Cali f. 91208. T roads ter; 1930-31 Deluxe A roadster; 30x3Y2 wire whe e ls & hubs; ruxtell rear; s ix rivit rear-end; runs of Horse 85-95 Point Classic. Car can be open or closed but must less Age, Motor, Automobile, etc. R. Schill, Sargent Hill be mechanically excell ent. Send picture, price, description Rd., Hinsdale, New Hampshire 03451. of condition, suggested repairs, and daytime phone num ber. All material will be returned; all letters wi ll be an $200 reward for information leading to the apprehension of swered. George Townsend, 5809 Lenlock Circle, S.E., person or persons who broke into and stole 1 - 1904 Stan Huntsville, Alabama 35802. ley Steam engine, 1-1900 Locomobile steam eng in e, brass antique auto lamps and other antique auto items va lu ed Greyhound, Lincoln radiator cap '28 thru '36 must be near at over $1,000 from the premises of A. W. Fogel strom, 543 perfect condition for refinishing and replating. Paul D. Blair, Eugene, Oregon. Please contact Glen Fogelstrom, Hileman, 2441 Oak Knoll, San Marino, Calif. 91108, or 1 050 W. 5th, 345-5107, Eugene or Officer Lane, Eugene phone 28 1-5340 after 6:00p.m. Police Dept.
1932 Franklin Sedan, Series 16 Airman. Seeking car in For 1928 Chev. 4 door s edan. Al l outs ide door handles. outstanding condition. Contact: Frank H. Gardner, 141 Lynn J. Parker, RFD No . 1, Box 15, Ogden, Utah 84401. Prince St., West Newton, Mass. 02165. For 1919 Model F. B. Baby Grand Chevrolet, touring body Pictures of a 1938 V12 Lincoln Conv. Sedan LeBaron or back section of touring body. Wood patterns if possible. body, or any other information. Also I wil l buy Railroad Rear fenders. Carte r P. Helmick, 10550 S.W. 80th Ave., Switch Keys and locks, or I have some to trade. I wi ll pay Portland, Oregon 97223. 244-9190. a good price for these items. Charles A. Smith, 2410 Ver non St., North K.C., Mo. 64116. Have completed a 1928 Auburn Se dan restoration. Wou ld like to buy a 28-29-30 Auburn Speedste r location not im Detroit Electric circa 1907 - 1910 parts, car or body and portant. Have good tran s portation. James Whittier, RR1, contra Is and meters, also needed for 1916 Dodge, ch as sis Galt, Ontario, Canada. with engine, running gear, wheels, complete, (have good roadster body only) Tom Sauer, 1132 Atlee Drive, La Can Information and parts for 2 cyl. REO, 1905-1910. James ada, Cal. 91011 (213) 790-6165. C. Looney, 540 NW 33rd St., Corvalli s, Oregon 97330. 62
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For a 1936 K Lincoln-dist. and spark plug wire cover, Early Gazette. Vol. 2, No. 1. Wi II pay $5.00 for a good one wire wheel hub caps, horns, rear hood hinge bracket, air or wi II swap my extra copy of Vol. 3 No. 3, Vol. 4, No. 1 c leane r, tail lite lenses and rims, luggage rack chrome, or Vol. 5 No.2. Herb Prentice, 9734 Garnish Drive, Dow bumper tips, greyhound, light switch ring, horn button, ney, Calif. dash in struments, cigarette lighter s , gear s hift knob, may be interest ed in parts car, Bruce Rodine, 3758 York St., 1933 Chev. Roadster body. Also same year, welled front Denver, Colorado 80205. fenders. Write descriptions. No calls. George Dabney, 333 Brentwood, Ventura, Calif. 93003. Chandler wanted. 191 3- 1914 model 14. Complete car o r basket case. If you are uncertain h ow to identify this car Exhaust whi stles wanted- Seek several types of early ex please write for description and pictures. Would consider haust whistles. Especially need certain sizes and styles a 1915 mode! 15 or 15-B if unabl e to find a model 14. of AERMORE, any good GABRIEL, several types of ex Roger Anderson, 7053-27th N. W. Seattle, Wash. 98107. plosion whistles, unusual or very excell ent cut-outs, kick pedals, and any original literature. Some duplicates to For 1914 Buick- 4 cylinder B-24 pattern for engine sp lash trade or will buy outright. Describe fully. Stan Lucas, s hield (under-s ide) - top side curtain and support rods Box 174, Culver City, Calif. 90230. Ph. 392-7106. patterns. - also any literature or manuals. Ted Huddle ston, 3100 N. College, Bethany, Okla. 73008. Information on Boyer Fire Apparatus: when made, etc.; literature on same. Also location of Boyer pumper. Need Parts wanted for 1930-1932 American Austin (Bantam). data plate for Curtis Air Spring and informatio n on such. Need radiator, steering wheel, seats, bumpers, generator, Donald M. Elmore, 710 Second Street, Hoquiam, Wash., gauges, and most of the interior trim, Also any related 98550 Phone: 532-2974. literature. Brian Siler, Rt. 7, Box 7022, Bainbridge Is land, Washington 98110. 1938 or 1939 Lincoln Zephyr coupe. Prefer car with Col umbia axle and radio, but wi ll consider car without if it Need radiator for 1955 C55, 7 passenger touring. This is is complete and original. Send several clear close up a square tube, none other wi ll do. Prefer new, but might photos and your price in first letter. Jack L. Wadsworth, buy expert rebuilt one. Harold Blackburn, 1206 S. Oak 264 W. Pamela Rd., Arcadia, Calif. 91006. Ph.: 447-9459. Grove, Springfield, Mo. 65804. For 28" wheels, Q.D. demountable slide rings and 27" Concerning gasoline powered DETROITERS: (bui lt in De or 28" lock rings. Large solar tail lamp. Stromberg C No. troit 1912-1917), names & addresses of curren1 owners, 2 (arb. Clyde Stevens, 289 S. 200 East, Kaysville, Utah any information whatsover of this make, want to buy cat 84037. alogues & manuals of Detroiters, any Detroiters around for sale? Ronald J. Putz, 1801 So. Warner Ave., Bay City Any o ld camera, Leica, Ansco, Press or View, Kodak etc. Michigan 48707. in the 1920's and 1930's. To look auth entic at old car meets. Stan Wayman, 18 Beckerle St., Danbury, Ct. 06810. 26 Marmon E-74 gas cap. Crank hole cover disc., of tools, Carb. control switch. Comb., lights, key switch, Bob Want case automobile parts. Would be interested in most Rollo, 9312 Nichols St., Bellflower, Calif. anything 1911 -19 14 . Leads apprciated. Wayne Leonard, 1044 Collyer, Longmont, Colorado 80501. Shop Manual for a 1929 Pontiac 4 dr. Sedan. Any reason able price paid. Also any literature on Marvel carburetors Will trade for or buy a depot hack, or hu ckster wagon, etc. and 1929 Pontiacs. Also lead on finding parts for this Items for trade or possibly for sale include: 1931 Chevy car. Vincent DiPierro, 1635 S. Beverly Glen, Los Angeles Coupe, 1924 Ford Touring or a restored Seeburg Orchest Calif. 90004 rion Piano that contains bells, drums and other trap s. Frank Rider, RFD 1, Wabash, Indiana 46992. Phone.: 1938 Chevrolet Cabriolet in good cond it ion. Prefer mid 2 19-563-5030. west area, Contact: Gene Davis, 122 Highland Park St., Excelsior Springs, Mo. 64024. Cycle and Automobile Trade Journal 1911 thru 1913. Knox Manuals, Books, Sales Literature, 1911 thru 1913,Motor Urgently need one Gray & Davis tail lamp No. 19. A lso Magazine 19 10 thru 191 3. Hank Harper, P.O. Box 189, 2 extra Gray & Davis burner units. I will consider any Algonquin, Ill inois 60102. condition. Please state condition and price in first letter. A ll photos will be returned. Noel Petter Jr., 225 W. 38th For 193 1 Cadillac V-12 Convertible Coupe, radio, heater, St., Los Angeles, Calif. 90037. Ph. (2 13) 235-1188. horn trumpets, hub caps, sp lash pan, courtesy lights, trunk pi lot ray or new set of senior Trippe light s, outer running Issues of Lozier Logic Magazine. 4-cylinder air compres board moulding, left tai I light, parking I ight, clock, front sor with air s tarter distributor around 1911 v intage. Ken li cense plate bracket. Miller, 1024 N. lOth St., Albemarle, Pearson, P.O. Box 189, Algonquin, Illinois 60102. N. Car. 28001.
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B · Btass ''no nom e 19 carburetor C - Dome light - 4-7/ 8 " diameter Carburetors needed for these cars : 1907 FRANKLIN RUNABOUT 'G': Timer, Top, Coi l box, Carbure· 19 10 At I a s : Own , updraft to r, Tool kit, Al l 4 fenders, Ho od, Das h , Atwood headlamp s, 19 15 Chalm e rs '32A' : Rayfi e ld GL2 Steering gear, Atwood #52 taillornp, Atwood #5 1 s idelamps, 1928 Chrysler '72' : Ball & Bal l SV37, 1%" updraft Re ar hubs and hubcap s . 1929 Chrys ler '65' : Stromberg U- 5, l If ' updraft 1908 FRANK LIN TOUR IN G 'D ': En gine, 27" Clincher rim, Shift & 1930 Chry s le r '77 ': Strombe rg DX-3, downdraft brake levers, Dashboard, Serial number pla te , Bel ly pans, 1926 Davi s '93': Tillotson SE-5A Da s h in s truments, Batte ry box , Whe e ls. 1931 Devaux: Tillotson J -2A, l -3/ 8" updraft 1909 FRANKLIN TOURING 'G : Serial number plate, Headlamps, 1929 Dodge 'DA ' : Stromberg U X2, l \'4' updraft Sidelamps, Al l 4 fenders , Horn , Rea r hubs and hubcaps. 1930 Du esenberg : Sche bl er SX389, dual upd raft 19 13 FRANK LIN TOUR ING 'M ': Horn , Side curtains, Too ls, Hub- 1905 Duryea 3- cylinder caps. 19 14 Fiat: O wn make, 3" 19 16 F RA NKLIN 'M-8 ': 12-volt Newtone horne, 25" wheel s. 1903 Ford 'A ' : Hol ley 1902 PACKARD 'F': Coi l box, Carburetor, Timer Horn. 1906 Fo rd 'K': Hol ley or Buffa lo 1904 PACKARD 'L ' : Carburetor, Rear ax le assembly, Early Solar 1908 Fo rd ' K' : Ho ll ey W, l " s idedraft toillomp, 25" cl inch er rim s . 1935 Frazer- Na sh MISCEL L ANEOU S: 8-cylinder De l co Remy Model 660-W dis tributor, 1909 Herreshoff 2 Stamped metal Lu cas button s to fit 9/ 16 " hole, Large round 1907 Ho ls man h ead whee l hub bo lts, Ea rly flat head fender rivets, App rox. 6" 1930 lso tto Frash ini: Zenith x9" wooden coil box. 25", 26 " , 27" & 28 " rims, lock rings, 1935 Lin coln ' K': Stromberg EE22 dua l downdraft c lin cher rin g s and retainer ring s. Dorian wheel lugs. Coil boxe s 1939 Li nco ln 'K ': Holley AA l dua l downdraft for 1909- 19 11 Packards. Ei seman n magn e to Typ e A B J 7. 1942 L incoln Contin en ta l: Holl ey LH D dual down draft 19 10 Ma son: Schebler, sidedraft Please give Full Details and Price in First letter 19 14 Maxwell '35' : Holley D, l " updraft PICTURES VERY HELPFUL- ANY ASSISTANCE OR 1926 Mo rri s 'Cowley': Smith 5 J et LEADS WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. Please send offers of cars for sale to RALPH DUNWOODIE Bud Catlett, P 0 Box 10, Reno , Nevada . HARRAH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION P.O. BOX 10, RENO, NEVADA 89405 ~~~~ ~~~~
WANTED 1907 - 1912 Tour ing Car, prefer large car but will con For 19 10 EMF, Engine Assy., brass radiator, clin cher s id er 4 or 6 cy l. car. Restored or unrestored or bas ket rings, seat sections, Lamp s, Yokes for headlite. Ha ve 2 case. (A ll photos will be returned, if requested.) Also in wheels, 3 hub caps, shift handl e for 1912 EMF to trade, te rested in 1900- 1902 car of any type. Joseph W. Chasas also steering wheel and brass s teering co lumn for 1912 21 Cambridge Drive, Babylon, N.Y. 11 702. EMF. Jim Smailes, 18 Enslee Rd., Coshucton, Ohi o.
I am also looki ng for Vol.5 ( '43)No. 1, 3 & 4, Vol. 8 ('46) Following issues of the Saturday Evening Post for 1920, No. 3, Vol. 9 ('47) No. 2 & 4. Would appreciate any help Sept. 11, Sept. 18, Sept. 25, and Oct. 2. Robert A Burt yo u might give me on these. V. H. Stroud, 319 E. 16th St., ness, 223 W. Victoria St., Apt. 11, Santa Barbara, Calif. Hutchinson, Kan. 67501. 93 104.
1932 to 1934 Packard or Auburn convertible sedan or tour 1929-30 Auburn 120-125 Engine and Transmission, Hood, ing wanted. Mu st be restored. John Badagliacco, 29 19- and dash board assembly, or wi II buy parts car. J . C. 23 rd Ave., San Francisco, Calif. Anderson, 54 E. II So. Box 4, Bountiful, Utah 84010 Ph .: 295-0280. 1909 to '22 Ford T coupe or coup let. Prefe r restored, or exce ll ent original car. Pay good pric e for ni ce car. Send picture, will return. All an Cram e r, 855 Wa ld en Ln., Lake lllll llltlll l llii ii1 11 111 111111 111111UIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIU11111 tlllti1 11 111 11111111 11 U I1UIIIIIIII IUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIUIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIII I1 111 11111111 11111 11 1111 11111111111 11111111111111 Forest, Ill ino is 60045. (312) 234-4447. New Pressure Sensitive HCCA Emblem Labels Fo r a 1912 Mod e l '29 Bui ck - Large 8 stud pancake West on Mott rear end. Also 4- 27" Bak er sp lit rims, steering colum n. 25" Iock rings for 1912 Overland. C. F errett, 130 'oo~fo$ 0oo ' W. Main St., Sa n Jacinto, Calif. 92383. llllllllltllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii/IIIIUIIIIIIllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIillllllllllll l lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll/ltllllllllllllllllllllll 64
WANTED 1928 Oakland luggage rack 13W' wide by 30" long, see sketc h also for 1926 Chevy. radiator and alum. shell and ,.,... \...... 1""\ . 0 head light rim s. Ramon Mona s terio, 6321 More lla Ave., No. Hollywood, Calif. 91606.
N eed e ngine as pictured, 4 cyl. "T" head type, cast "en Bloc", or "L" head e ngin e as pictured on pp. 64, Jan. -Feb. '69 Gazette. AI so need Rayfi e ld carburetor No. C-4 or G-4 with water ja cket. R. D. Toney, 1350 Gloria Dr., Holli s ter, Calif. 95023.
1912Kisse l Kar e ngine, 6 cyl. cast in pairs. Also radiator having oval nec k with flip cap- radiator i s unmarked ex· cept for letters and numbers on back of neck. Ralph Dun woodie, 809 Thoma Street, Reno, Nevada 89502. Phone 702-323-3643.
Wanted to trade a 1911 Cadillac engine for 1912 Cadillac engine. I would like any information pretaining to the a bove car. I would like any information pretaining to early Hol s man auto buggy. Please write or phone .William J . Becker, 6222 N. Missouri, Portland Ore. 97217. Phone: 1-503-285-7147.
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1889,1890, & 1891 issue of Engineering News & American Rec e nt Illinois license plai"e for one of your state or Can Railway Journal . Lots of inte resting articles, adds, ill ada. P e te J . Dapkus, R.R. No.1, Pocahontas, Illinois ustrations of locomotives, steam pumps, bridges, dredges, 62275. etc. One has double page color map of U.S. showing rail ways heating cars by steam from th e locomotive. Sell or Rare Canadian 1917/ 18 Overland with custom sedan body swap for brass. Rod Tripp, Box 747, A lbany, Ore. 97321. by "Orilla" in good unrestored condition for pre-1920 open car in comparable condition or a steam fire pumper. Upper half bras s and wood windshield 21x42 $20.00. One Will exchange photographs with interested parties. Also brass windshield support rod c ircle at e nd $15.00. WW1 want photos, books, and literature pretaining to antique truck electric headlight shells and brackets for Gab-Adam fire-fighting apparatus, especially steam pumpers. J. E. and Westlake $20.00. 6 cyl. Bosh dual coil $20.00. "frade Lanigan, 4820-8th Ave., Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada. any above parts for 13-14 Ford parts brass. Marvin Ray, 2113 Edmonds, Las Vegas, NevacJa 89102. Mention the GAZETTE when writing advertisers
New Pressure Sensitive HCCA Emblem Labels r••••~•••••••••••~••~ 1 GREAT CARS OF THE PAST NOW YOU CAN HEAR THEM! '00 0£0$ 000 , Hear the sound of 18 cars, from a 1902 Olds to a 1938 WANTED Mercedes-Benz with super charger screaming - all per For 1910 Stearn s 15-30 (the small one) engine or parts, forming exc lu sively for this also rear end parts, clutch pedal and left headli ght fork. record. Th e cars are started; Come on John' Yaun Rodgers, 407 Lombardy, El Paso, they drive away, come back Texas 79922. and pass right through your room, then turn around and re s turn. Th e distinctive sound T of each car i s heard at close $7.50 Check or Money Ord e r range. A brief sem i -techni ca l E Postage Free comment adds interest for THORNE RECORD COMPANY A 7450 Voll ey Vi ew Rd. both I ayrnen and experts. Scottsdale, Arizona 85251 R N MONEY REFUNDED IF NOT SATISFIED 1 ...... 1 s
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Many of America's leading car collectors are Hathaway and Bowers, Inc. customers. Unusual, you say? At first thought it might seem unusual that we, as America's leading dealer in antique automatic musical instruments, would be doing a lot of business with antique automobile enthusiasts. But, onsecondthought, what could be more appealing than adding a nickelodeon piano or two to your exhibit- so when visitors are enjoying the beauty of your cars they can be entertained by nostalgic old-time ragtime, two-step or classical tunes of the 1900- 1940 era., .A good part of our business has been to car museums for the owners have found that these instruments more than earn their keep via receipts through the coin slots! Just as automobiles can be classified into many categories, antique instruments can be classified also. Our new catalogue lists items in the following fields- to give you an idea of the variety available:On the smaller side there are beautiful Swiss music boxes- some of which are small and fit on a taple top; others of which are larger, have drums and bells and interchangeable cylinders. Some of these larger Swiss boxes have beautiful matching tables, act ually elegant pieces of furniture, to go with them. The disc type boxes, popular from about 1890 to 1920, use steel discs which can be changed somewhat like a phonograph record . Familiar names of disc boxes include Regina, Sym phonion and Polyphon. In our catalogue you'll see same of these which are petite and which will be at home on a cof fee table, and others which tower 6 or 7 feet high! Among the larger instruments you'll see a beautiful array of nickelodeons which give forth with irrestibletoe tapping tuens of the 'twenties with the drop of a nickel (or a quarter; inflation, you know!). Made by Wurlitzer, See burg, Coinola, Hupfeld, Weber, etc. these are wonderfully ornate and feature beveled glass mirrors, hanging lamps, colorful art glass, scenic effects and other eye appealing accountrmentsl Largest of all are the orchestrions and or gans. The orchestrions contain a piano, ranks of pipes, a xylophone, bells, drums and other instruments -and play music in the manner of a real human jazz band or concert orchestra! The band organs, familiar as part of a merry go round ar an the back of a truck or open car in a circus parade, are voiced loudly and are designed to draw crowds from near and far! Our latest catalogue lists excellent values in music boxes, nickelodeons, orchestrions, circus organs and many ather items of the era. Each instrument is fully illustrated, described in detai I (including full historical information), and is priced to be an excellent value. Here's how you can get a copy: Our catalogues regularly sell for $2 a copy . As an introductory offer to automobile enthusiasts we make the following half price offer: Send us $2 and we'll send you our next TWO large illustrated catalogues. This means that our catalogues will cost you just $1 each- which is less than it costs us to produce them! Or, if you wish to be assured of receiving our catalogues steadily, send $5 for a subscription to our next SIX issues. You take no chances when you order these catalogues. If you are not 100% delighted your catalogue payment will be instantly refunded . As a matter af possible interest, we have distributed thousands af catalogues over the years and no one has yet taken us up on our money back offer 1 You're in for a rea I treat when our catalogues arrive. We guarantee that you've never seen anything like them! Oh yes ... One mare thing: it is not our intention ta charge our regular customers for our catalogues .•• so if you make a purchase your catalogue subscription wi II be renewed free of charge! Our past catalogues have become valuable collectors' items. It is too late to start with Catalogue No. 1 as it was out of print long ago. But, better now than never! Rush your $2 or $5 today and begin your collection of our catalogues with either Catalogue Na. 10 or No . 11 (We have printed just 750 extra copies of our No. 10 - and these wi II be dis tributed on a first-come, first-served basis. If we are out of No. 10 when your payment arrives, you'll receive Na. 11 as your first catalogue). We'll look forward to hearing from you by mail soon! ' WHEN YOU SEND YOUR ORDER BE SURE 'TO ASK FOR "SPECIAL AUTOMOBILE ENTHUSIASTS OFFER" SO YOU'LL RECEIVE TWO CATALOGUES FOR YOUR $2 (rather than just one catalogue- as per our regular price) TO REPEAT: SEND $2 FOR OUR NEXT TWO ISSUES (a $4 value) OR SEND $5 FOR OUR NEXT SIX ISSUES (a $12 value!)MENTION "SPECIAL AUTOMOBILE ENTHUSIASTS' OFFER" WHEN ORDERING. HAPPY COLLECTING.
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T e le phone our Mr. Hathaway {or an appointment to visit our showroom th e ne xt tim e you are in th e Los Ange les ar ea. We are th e world' s large st de ale r in automatic mu s ical in s trum ent s and re lated items . We have comple te fa cilities to s hip instrument s anywhere in America, Europ e or e ls e wh ere. We are se ri ous buyers o f th es e instrument s also and we would wel co me offers of in s trum ent s {or sale . 66 [Continued from Page 49] HUGH GERNER most active in the Kansas City Chapter of VMCCA, Hugh Gerner, age 75 of 620 N.W. 54th, Oklahoma of which he was a charter member. Andy held many City died February 22, 1969 following an illness of chapter offices and was a former Assistant Director, over a year. Midwest Region, VMCCA. He was born in Terrell, Texas, February 19, 1894 Perhaps the greatest tribute we could pay to Andy and moved to Oklahoma in 1900. He assisted in Gentry's memory is to say that he was every inch an moving the state capitol (Oklahoma) from Guthrie, "automobile man." He spent his life in the automobile Oklahoma to Oklahoma City in 1910. business and whether selling a new car or talking He was employed by Yellow Transit Freight Lines antiques, he knew his subject and told the truth with as Maintenance Superintendent from 1929 to 1950. a friendliness and wit that's irreplaceable. From 1950 to 1959, he was Vice President in charge The big yellow Marmon touring is still with us but of equipment with Mid Continent Freight Lines. He the G liddens and the local meets will never be the was a veteran of World War I. same without Andy showboating around the parking Hugh was the founder and a charter member of lot, cutout open, at 3 mph in high gear. the Sooner Horseless Carriage Club. He had held all WILLIAM LLOYD KIRK of the offices of the club. Even though he and Gladys Bill Kirk, born May 31, 1892, died March 25, 1969 had no children, he was really the Daddy of us all. at age 76. Survived by his widow, Lida Mae, who Hugh was an authority of automobiles, especially will continue to live at the family home, 2606 Walnut the old ones and when anyone in the state of Okla Ave., So. San Gabriel, Cal. There were no children. homa wanted to know about them, it was always Bill was a former member of the HCCA for many "Ask Hugh". There were few cars in this area that years and his funeral was attended by many mem Hugh hadn't used his magic touch to get a perfect bers who will remember him for his superlative purr out of an old engine. Likewise he touched all mechanical ability in restoring old cars. He learned of our hearts and was loved by all who knew him. early in life, when adopted by an owner of a foundry Oklahoma has truly lost their finest "Old Car" and machine shop,to make patterns, to cast in metal, citizen. and to finish the part on a machine. -CAROL ELLIOTT Bill worked around Los Angeles and at one time was employed by the Duro and Tourist plants that were at lOth & Los Angeles Sts. Soon, he was building and racing Model T speedsters with Rajo heads, here he met George Riley, Eddie Winfield, Paul From, Jack Taylor, Rex Mays, and others of the dirt track era. From racing he went into making racing equipment which line he followed to the day of his death. Members of the HCCA will recall that if Bill couldn't fix it, it was a case of throw it away! His house and machine shop was always full of men that wanted pieces of old cars rebuilt. He was also a col lector of old things and his small collection of antique motorcycles was later bought by Bill Harrah where they are now on display. I have known Bill for 30 years and have yet to meet a man that was his equal in his chosen field. Andrew E. Gentry at the wheel of his "big yellow MARMON touring. I am a mechanic and the son of a mechanic, but Bill is the only man that I would trust to build an entire ANDY GENTRY PASSES automobile from the ground up. He could design the His many good friends throughout the antique car engine, make the wooden patterns, cast the metal, world, and indeed in many other walks of life, were and then machine it to perfection. saddened by the death of Andrew E. Gentry on Bill was interred at Rose Hills and his eulogy March 1, 1969. was given by Harry Pulfer. The flag drapping his Andy, who had been in ill health for several years, casket was given to his widow. Bill served in the died of a heart attack in the showroom of his Navy, Marine Corps, and the Army, and ~as in Chevrolet agency in Buckner, Missouri. He was 62. Germany with the occupation troops. His survivors include his wife Elizabeth of Buckner, Bill was a very independent man but that is un his son Richard, a brother, sister, and three grand derstandable when you review his background. He sons, all of Independence, Missouri. was a great and loyal friend to his friends, a good Andy was an outstanding antique automobile hob husband to his wife, loved his dogs, and his work and byist from every point of view. A member of all the I personally will miss him. major clubs, AACA, HCCA, and VMCCA. He was -HARRY PULFER
HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/May-June 1969 GUARANTEE-30,000 MILES OR 3 YEARS
WIDTH SIZE RIM CONSTRUCTION PLY CAP. PER' WHITE BLACK WHITE EXCISE TUBE EXCISE SIZE R'TING TIRE/LBS. WALL WALL WALL TAX TAX 8.55x14 14 POLYESTER TUBELESS 4 1770/32 2% 47.90 2.57 8.55x15 15 POLYESTER TUBELESS 4 1770/32 2% 48.90 2.63 6.70x15 15 POLYESTER TUBELESS 4 1450/32 2"11• 45.90 2.36 9.00/9.15x15 15 POL VESTER TUBELESS 4 1970/32 2% 51.90 3.01 7.00x 15 15 RAYON 4 1700/32 31!2 48.21 2.79 6.31 .29 8 .00/8.20x 15 15 RAYON 4 1920/32 3% 50.51 2.49 6.31 .29 6.00xl6 16 RAYON 6 1065/36 3¥a 28.69 37.69 2.31 6.39 .21 6.50x16 16 RAYON 6 1215/36 4 29.40 38.40 2 .60 6.34 .26 7.00x16 16 RAYON 6 1395/36 41!2 52.06 2.94 6.34 .26 7.50x16 16 RAYON 6 1560/36 5 57.31 3.69 6.28 .32 8.25x16 16 RAYON 6 1760/34 5% 71.29 3.71 6.28 .32 8.25xl6 D.W.W. 16 RAYON 6 1760/34 5% 107.29 3.71 6.28 .32 5 .25/5.50xl7 17 RAYON 4 955/32 3% 21.05 31.05 1.95 6.37 .23 6.00/6.50x17 17 RAYON 6 1320/36 4 56.40 2.60 8.52 .28 7.00/7.50xl7 17 RAYON 6 1645/36 4% 65.09 2 .91 8.39 .41 5.25/5.50xl8 18 RAYON 4 1000/ 32 3% 22.04 32.04 1.96 6.37 .23 6.00/6.50x18 18 RAYON 6 1375/36 4 57.17 2.83 8.52 .28 7.00/7 .50x18 18 RAYON 6 1710/36 4% 67.66 3.34 8.36 .44 4.75/5.00xl9 19 RAYON 4 895/32 3 20.20 30.20 1.80 6.36 .24 5.25/5.50x19 19 RAYON 4 1050/32 3% 30.90 38.90 2.10 6.36 .24 6.00/6.50x19 19 RAYON 6 1430/36 4 46.00 58.00 3 .00 7.40 .30 7 .00/7.50x19 19 RAYON 6 1775/36 4% 57.58 68.58 3.42 8.36 .44 4.75/5.00x20 20 RAYON 4 925/32 3 23.10 32.10 1.90 6.37 .23 5 .25/5.50x20 20 RAYON 4 1075/32 3% 24.76 33.76 2.24 7.40 .30 6.00/6.50x20 20 RAYON 6 1500/36 4 49.94 59.94 3.06 8.48 .32 7.00x20 20 RAYON 6 1700/36 4% 61.89 75.89 4.11 10.52 .48 4.40/4.50x21 21 RAYON 4 800/32 2% 20.37 30.37 1.63 6.37 .23 6.00x21 21 RAYON 6 1350/36 3% 50.40 61.40 2.60 7.38 .32 7.00x21 21 RAYON 6 1700/36 4% 78.05 3.95 9.42 .48 28x3 C.L. 22 RAYON 4 300/40 1'/.o 41.05 48.05 .95 5.30 .20 6.00x22 22 RAYON 6 1350/36 3% 51.21 62.21 2.79 9.55 .35 30x3'12 C.L. 23 RAYON 4 450/45 2'1a 43.68 51.68 1.32 5.25 .25 32x4'12 23 RAYON 6 1250/60 2% 53.02 64.02 1.98 7.26 .44 6.00x23 23 RAYON 6 1350/36 3•;.. 52.25 63.25 2.75 8.45 .35 30x3 C.L. 24 RAYON 4 300/40 1'/.o 41. 19 49.19 .81 5.30 .20 32x4 24 RAYON 6 1000/55 2 1/2 45.08 56.08 1.92 5.21 .29 33x4lj2 24 RAYON 6 1250/60 2•;.. 51.90 60.90 2.10 7.06 .44 33x4 25 RAYON 6 1000/55 2 1/2 46.08 57.08 1.92 5 .21 .29 34x4'12 25 RAYON 6 1250/60 2¥a 52.76 62.76 2.24 7.06 .44 35x5 25 RAYON 8 1700/65 4 60.74 69.74 3.26 7.28 .42 34x4 26 RAYON 6 1000/55 2'12 46.94 57.94 2.06 5.41 .29 36x41/ 2 27 RAYON 6 1250/60 3 59.67 68.67 2.33 10.53 .47 37x5 27 RAYON 8 1700/65 4 71.62 78.62 3.38 10.53 .47 36x4 28 RAYON 6 1000/55 2'12 56.80 68.80 2 .20 10.58 .42 38x4'12 C.L. 29 RAYON 8 1000/65 3'.4 99.19 107. 19 2.81 11.68 .42 17n to 28n FLAPS $2.75 EACH
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