THE POCO a POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You Are Pursued by God”
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THE POCO A POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You are Pursued by God” www.franciscanfriars.com Speaker 1: You're listening to the Poco a Poco Podcast. Sponsored by Spirit Juice Studios. (singing) Fr. Mark-Mary: Hey, welcome everybody. This is Father Mark-Mary. Fr. Angelus: And Father Angelus here. Fr. Innocent: And Father Innocent. Fr. Mark-Mary: We are a Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, and this is the Poco a Poco Podcast. For those of you who have forgotten who father Angelus is. Fr. Angelus: Whoa. Fr. Innocent: Welcome back Ange. Fr. Mark-Mary: Maybe we can introduce you. Fr. Angelus: [crosstalk 00:00:29] wasting no time just to get right in there. Fr. Mark-Mary: Father Angelus is also a member of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal. Fr. Angelus: I am very happy to be an occasional guest host of the Poco a Poco Podcast. Fr. Innocent: Glad you're back in the mix Ange. Fr. Angelus: Hey, I was out for a while. And can I just tell you guys something, first of all, people listened to the podcast, so that's great news. Fr. Mark-Mary: That's good news. Fr. Angelus: Second of all, a common theme along the way is that they very much enjoy it. It's very accessible, which is good to hear, but also it's very common across the board. People say that you guys pick on me way too much. I am just saying. Fr. Mark-Mary: It's come up. Fr. Angelus: Yeah it's come up. And it's a thing, but I'm okay with it. Fr. Mark-Mary: I think it makes people like you. Fr. Angelus: Exactly. I think I'm the most favorite character because they feel bad for me. [crosstalk 00:01:10]- Page 1 of 27 THE POCO A POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You are Pursued by God” www.franciscanfriars.com Fr. Innocent: You're like the underdog. Fr. Angelus: I was thinking of us a road movement, kind of like behind the scenes, like my own social media page of people having pity on me and mercy on me. Kind of like on the side. Fr. Mark-Mary: We can arrange that. I can help you out. Fr. Angelus: I can personally have my own Facebook though. So anyway. Fr. Mark-Mary: When we were recording, when we were hanging out with Michelle Benzinger she definitely had that sort of sense like, "Why do you guys pick on Father Angelus so much?" Fr. Angelus: Exactly. I ask that question all the time. Fr. Mark-Mary: I have a theory. Fr. Angelus: Yeah? What's your theory? Fr. Mark-Mary: My theory is that I know you... Basically, I know you better than Father Innocent, Father Innocent knows you- Fr. Angelus: Better than you. Fr. Mark-Mary: ... better than me. Yeah. Because I lived with you for six years, Father Innocent obviously knows you well. And we've lived together just one year and two months, something like that. So I think hopefully as time goes on, it evens out a little bit. Fr. Angelus: Hopefully. Fr. Innocent: But it is really fun to gang up on you. Fr. Angelus: I appreciate it. Thank you. It's good. Here we are. Fr. Mark-Mary: We can have a change of pace though, real quick, because I think recently somebody told you... what is the line? "You just seem like- Fr. Angelus: I'm in my prime. Fr. Mark-Mary: ... you're in your prime." So we've been calling Father Angelus prime time. Page 2 of 27 THE POCO A POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You are Pursued by God” www.franciscanfriars.com Fr. Angelus: To say, it was an interesting story because actually it was probably in reference to all this stuff that we're doing and again, it's great to do this podcast. But I was out on the road for vocation stuff for a lot over the last, actually a month and a half, which was great. And a lot of good conversations in the line, good ministries and people to be with. Fr. Angelus: At some point though, maybe I was giving a talk somewhere and I was fired up, and someone who just kind of randomly said, "Hey, Father, you kind of just seem like you're in your prime." And I was like, "Thank you. You know I know." We of course made a joke and... But it's interesting kind of being in the... Obviously we were just talking before we started this conversation. There's a lot going on in life and in the community and at this house and with one another. And so you feel that. But in a strange, crazy way, Father Innocent and I were talking about this at dinner the other night too, somehow we thrive in kind of the busyness and the craziness. And there's a lot of grace there, but I always just joking. I was like, "You know what? Thank you. Someone noticed this," that I am flourishing in my life. Fr. Innocent: Prime time Angelus. We're just calling him prime time. Fr. Mark-Mary: Prime time. Fr. Angelus: Lord have mercy. Fr. Mark-Mary: So prime time. And I think there's something of that going on with our generation. We're just hitting middle age and some of the other boys [crosstalk 00:03:39]. It's true. Father Gabriel manual, who's the vicar here at the house, the number two is just putting on his big boy pants as well. Fr. Angelus: We have a goal to have him on the show sometime is that- Fr. Mark-Mary: We're working on it for sure. Fr. Angelus: He's kind of putting it. He's playing hard to get a little bit, but I think he'd be great. Fr. Mark-Mary: I think it'd be fun. I think it'd be good. We'll make it happen. So we're going to get into... We're continuing with, there's going to be a correction here in pronunciation, Erasmo Leiva-Merikakis. We got a comment on YouTube from one of his former students. Fr. Innocent: Wow. That's awesome, to help us out. Fr. Mark-Mary: We're happy to be corrected. Page 3 of 27 THE POCO A POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You are Pursued by God” www.franciscanfriars.com Fr. Angelus: But they pronounced it Dr Leiva. And I reached out to her because I kind of want to just hear some stories. So we'll see if she- Fr. Innocent: I have this secret desire to be connected to him somehow. Like email him or... Anyway, just, he would be great. Yeah. I think he's in Rome. Did we establish that? I think he's one of the secretary to the Superior General in Rome. Fr. Mark-Mary: Is that true or is that just [crosstalk 00:04:34]. Fr. Angelus: No. I think that's... Oh, come on. [crosstalk 00:04:37] I'm pretty sure he's in Rome. Fr. Mark-Mary: You've been gone a while, but typically we avoid gossip. Fr. Angelus: Oh, you're killing me. Fr. Mark-Mary: All right. So Father Angelus, we're gong to get into... For those of you following at home, we're still in The Way of the Disciple, and we've made it to chapter... what number is this chapter? Chapter six, which is the story of the Samaritan woman. And we're going to get into... Father Angelus is going to situate us a little bit. So kick it off. Fr. Angelus: Before we do that can I tell you a cool little story? I just got an email recently from my brother in law of all people, Brian, he's listening to podcasts, which is awesome, but he had a question and maybe we can work it out for other people. He got the book. So I'm prescribing the book randomly actually, this book we're reading, The Way of the Disciple. And he was looking for pointers on how to read it because he found it a little overwhelming and he found it like, "Do I read it like Lexio? Or I read some of it at a time? Do I read it straight through? Do I use the scripture and then go back to it later?" So anyway, I gave him some advice and I think it's slower, the better with Leiva, [crosstalk 00:05:42]. Fr. Mark-Mary: I think so. I think Poco a Poco, I think. Fr. Angelus: Wow. Fr. Mark-Mary: Obviously there's the idea of praise. You can't read his, you can't notice you can't... So you can process it, work through it the way that's best for you. But I think there it's substantial enough, often enough, that it's worth taking it slow. Page 4 of 27 THE POCO A POCO PODCAST EPISODE 24 – “He Thirsts for You: You are Pursued by God” www.franciscanfriars.com Fr. Angelus: And it's almost like a commentary too, where you can sit with the word and then obviously, he has great perspective on that can help you to go deeper. So anyway, I thought it was good. And then people kind of engaging. Fr.