okay brian you're live hello everybody 29:10 this is brian peckham with the ohio 29:11 department of transportation 29:13 and i want to thank everybody for uh 29:15 logging into the virtual public meeting 29:17 for the portage 82 roundabout project 29:20 we're going to start the project at 29:22 about 5 15 so i 29:24 ask everybody to be patient for 15 29:26 minutes uh 29:27 that's in case anybody has any technical 29:29 difficulty in getting on 29:31 if you do experience any technical 29:33 difficulties 29:34 you know use your chat function and we 29:37 can try to help you there 29:39 or you can call in on the phone line 29:42 it's 855-925-2801 29:46 and you can enter that code 9857 29:50 so if you have any uh questions or 29:52 issues with 29:54 the website so um 29:58 as you can see on the slide presentation 30:00 there would be some frequently 30:01 asked questions hopefully some of these 30:04 can address some of your uh 30:05 questions about the project funding 30:09 roundabout questions safety questions 30:11 but obviously we'll go through 30:13 the project in detail during the 30:15 presentation and then everybody will be 30:17 afforded an opportunity to 30:19 either chat or call in with questions 30:21 and once we've gone through all the 30:23 uh chat questions we'll open it up to 30:26 the audience and you can 30:30 speak and give us your comments we will 30:33 ask that you do that 30:34 we'll try to keep each person to a two 30:36 minute limit 30:37 so we can keep things moving but 30:40 obviously once we get through all the 30:41 questions 30:42 if you have additional questions we'll 30:44 certainly invite you back to speak more 30:47 so we can discuss your questions and 30:49 concerns 30:51 so i'm gonna let this video play for a 30:52 few minutes and then when we get a 30:54 little closer 30:55 uh i also have a roundabout 30:58 operation video that i'd like to show 31:00 everybody 31:02 and hopefully that'll be helpful to 31:03 demonstrate 31:05 what the intersection will look like and 31:07 how it'll function and operate 33:08 brian you may want to say something for 33:10 those who are connecting by phone who 33:12 might think 33:13 they're joining and not hearing anything 33:18 jackie i've also noticed i think the uh 33:21 presentation 33:22 slideshow thing is stopped so let me 33:36 uh hello again this is brian peck from 33:38 odot district four 33:39 again i'd like to welcome everybody 33:41 that's uh joined us online 33:43 uh we're gonna start the presentation in 33:45 uh at approximately 5 15 33:48 give everybody an opportunity to to sign 33:50 on and make sure everything functions 33:52 before we start the presentation 33:54 if you do experience any technical 33:56 difficulties um 33:58 please do use the chat so we can try to 34:00 help you or you can use the call-in 34:03 number the 34:05 nine two 855-925 two eight zero one and 34:08 use code 34:08 nine eight five seven and we can try to 34:10 help you that way 34:14 okay while we're waiting i think i'm 34:15 gonna upload there's some roundabout 34:18 uh videos that i think could be helpful 34:21 so we'll watch those videos and then 34:23 hopefully we can get the presentation 34:24 started soon 34:40 we've created this video to help you 34:41 safely drive through the different kinds 34:43 of roundabouts here in ohio 34:45 level one single lane roundabout the 34:47 first kind is a single lane roundabout 34:50 at a single lane roundabout there is one 34:52 lane of traffic entering the roundabout 34:53 and one lane of traffic circulating 34:55 around it 34:57 most roundabouts are designed for speeds 34:59 of 15 to 25 miles per hour 35:02 so when coming up to any roundabout slow 35:04 down 35:05 prepare to yield to pedestrians at the 35:06 crosswalk and the cars already in the 35:08 roundabout 35:10 always check for pedestrians because 35:12 they have the right of way at crosswalks 35:15 then when you approach the white yield 35:17 line look to the left 35:18 and yield to oncoming traffic once 35:20 there's a gap in traffic 35:22 enter the roundabout all roundabouts in 35:24 the united states are one way 35:25 counterclockwise 35:29 straight name signs will help guide you 35:31 as you drive through the intersection 35:37 before you leave check again for 35:39 pedestrians and continue on your trip 35:56 do 35:58 now for a level one bonus roundabout a 36:00 single lane with a lane shift 36:03 as with any roundabout slow down and 36:05 prepare to yield 36:11 check the signs and road markings 36:14 again there is only one lane circulating 36:16 at this roundabout 36:19 check for pedestrians then when you 36:21 reach the white yield line 36:22 look left and yield to oncoming traffic 36:26 when there's a gap in traffic enter the 36:28 roundabout 36:30 now pay attention to the signs and road 36:31 markings because this 36:33 is where it's different at this 36:35 intersection the lane shift marking on 36:37 the road directs the driver from the 36:38 inside lane to the outside lane 36:47 exit the roundabout safely and continue 36:49 on your trip 36:58 remember to look at the road markings 37:00 when driving through a roundabout 37:26 level 2 multi-lane roundabout 37:29 let's take it to the next level 37:30 multi-lane roundabouts 37:32 with multi-lane roundabouts it is very 37:35 important to check the signs in order to 37:36 choose your lane 37:37 before entering but which lane do you 37:40 pick 37:41 it's the same process as with a 37:43 traditional or square intersection 37:45 you choose your lane based on where you 37:46 want to go at this roundabout if you 37:49 want to turn left 37:50 or go straight through 37:53 you'll want to be in the left lane if 37:55 you want to make a right turn or go 37:57 straight through 37:59 pick the right length do not try to turn 38:02 left from the right lane 38:03 remember that each roundabout is 38:04 different so always check the signs 38:14 after choosing your lane check for and 38:16 yield to pedestrians 38:18 then proceed to the yield line look to 38:21 the left for oncoming traffic 38:23 once there's a gap in the traffic in 38:25 both lanes enter the roundabout and 38:27 maintain your lane as you travel through 38:28 it 38:29 as you prepare to leave the roundabout 38:31 be sure to check for pedestrians again 38:33 and continue on your trip 38:45 level two bonus roundabouts number one 38:48 multi-lane roundabout with pedestrians 38:53 here's the first bonus roundabout for 38:54 level two a multi-lane roundabout with 38:56 pedestrian crossing 39:00 remember to check for and yield to 39:01 pedestrians as you come up to the yield 39:03 line 39:04 before you start to drive through a 39:05 roundabout 39:12 and just before you leave it remember 39:15 that pedestrians have the right of way 39:16 at crosswalks 39:17 so always check and yield for 39:26 pedestrians 39:31 now here's a second bonus roundabout for 39:33 level two a multi-lane roundabout with a 39:35 lane shift 39:39 as with any roundabout slow down and 39:41 prepare to yield 39:44 look for the signs to tell you which 39:46 lane to use also look for markings on 39:49 the road to direct you 39:52 be sure to choose your lane before 39:53 entering the roundabout check for 39:55 pedestrians 39:56 then when you reach the white yield line 39:58 look left 39:59 and yield to oncoming traffic when 40:01 there's a gap in both lanes 40:03 enter the roundabout continue to look at 40:05 the signs and road markings 40:10 at this intersection the markings on the 40:12 road direct the driver to shift from the 40:14 inside lane over to the outside lane 40:18 as you prepare to leave the roundabout 40:19 check again for pedestrians 40:21 and continue on your trip 40:26 remember to look at the road markings 40:27 when driving through a roundabout 40:50 levels 41:32 ryan if you're talking you're muted 41:55 mike did you want to go ahead and pull 41:56 up the slideshow 41:58 for everyone yes i will do that right 42:02 now thank you 42:16 and i do apologize everybody i had 42:19 got locked up there on my computer 42:23 that happens sometimes you know i want 42:26 to let everybody know that 42:27 although that roundabout video did show 42:29 some very complex 42:31 roundabouts the roundabout proposed for 42:34 this particular project is the most 42:36 simplistic 42:37 single lane roundabout that was at the 42:38 beginning of the video 42:40 so it's a the larger 42:44 multi-lane roundabouts can be a little 42:47 intimidating but this particular 42:48 roundabout is the 42:50 the easiest roundabout to navigate 42:56 so lauren it is about 5 15. i i think we 43:00 can go ahead 43:01 and kick off the meeting and get started 43:04 for everybody 43:09 all right thank you brian good evening 43:11 everybody now welcome to odot district 43:13 4's virtual public meeting 43:15 for the safety improvement project 43:17 located at the intersection 43:19 of state route 82 and chamberlain road 43:22 in portage county 43:23 my name is lauren phillis the district 43:25 planning engineer and i want to thank 43:27 you 43:28 for taking the time today to learn more 43:30 about this important project 43:32 the project team with me consists of 43:35 district 4 43:36 staff including project manager 43:38 elizabeth stober 43:40 and design consultant aecom 43:43 who is the designer record for the 43:45 project 43:51 um and also i'd just like to um let 43:54 everybody know i'm we are new to this 43:56 whole virtual public meeting process 43:58 and to be patient with us as we are 44:00 trying to 44:01 navigate this new way of reaching out to 44:04 you guys i mean we would 44:06 more we would love to be with you guys 44:08 in person 44:09 um but with everything that's going on 44:11 right now um 44:12 the virtual public meeting platform is 44:15 the platform that we will be 44:16 utilizing tonight 44:19 um we will be having a short 44:21 presentation on the proposed safety 44:23 project given by mike woodring of aecom 44:26 your participation is important to us 44:28 and we want to hear your input 44:31 you will be given the opportunity at the 44:33 end of the presentation for questions 44:34 and comments 44:36 brian peck who you've already heard this 44:38 evening 44:39 our odot environmental specialist will 44:41 be our moderator this evening and we'll 44:44 kick off 44:44 kick this meeting off with some ground 44:46 rules 44:48 uh thank you very much lauren um i 44:51 mentioned before at the beginning 44:53 if anybody's experiencing any technical 44:55 difficulties 44:56 uh please use the chat function or you 44:58 can call 44:59 in to the 855-925-2801 number and that 45:04 code is 9857 45:07 if you're experiencing any difficulties 45:10 there 45:12 again thank you for joining us there are 45:15 several ways 45:16 or several methods that you could send 45:18 comments during the meeting 45:20 there's the chat icon at the bottom of 45:22 your screen you can use 45:24 you can call in again at that number 45:28 855-925-2801 45:30 using code 9857 45:33 and later in the meeting after the 45:35 presentation's done we'll 45:36 we'll take verbal comments as well we'll 45:38 try to address your questions 45:40 uh all comments that are received will 45:42 be considered 45:44 regardless of the method used there's no 45:46 it's all equal weighted it doesn't 45:48 matter how you provide your comments 45:49 every every comment has equal weight 45:54 now i'd like to move on and we'll go 45:55 through the ground rules 45:58 the meeting will be recorded any 46:00 re-comments received will be considered 46:02 matter 46:03 public record so it's very important 46:06 that or we would like you to provide us 46:08 with enough information with your 46:10 comments 46:11 uh contact information that is so that 46:13 we can respond back to you 46:15 uh if we need to respond back via letter 46:18 via email 46:18 we can do that um but please do not 46:21 include 46:22 personal or too much personal or 46:24 confidential information because again 46:26 these these comments are 46:27 of public record once we're done with 46:29 the public involvement process 46:31 the public comment period ends for the 46:34 project on november 2nd 46:36 shortly following that we will summarize 46:39 all the comments 46:40 and provide responses to all the 46:42 comments and we'll upload all that 46:43 information to the project website to 46:45 the odot website 46:48 um we would ask also that all attendees 46:51 be muted 46:52 and remain muted until you're called 46:54 upon 46:56 after the presentation is concluded 46:58 there will be a question and answer 47:00 session we would ask that you know you 47:03 keep your 47:04 comments and concerns uh project 47:07 related we know that there are other 47:10 issues and things going on in the state 47:12 highways and interstate routes but we'd 47:14 like to 47:14 keep this meeting focused on the portage 47:17 82 intersection 47:19 um each commenter will be allocated when 47:22 we do do the verbal comments 47:24 each commenter will be allocated two 47:27 minutes 47:28 um i will warn everybody that there 47:32 may be delays when people were talking 47:34 so there may be some uncomfortable 47:36 silences 47:37 in there but we will try to wait again 47:40 if you're 47:41 muted and trying to talk we'll try to 47:43 remind you of that but 47:45 uh there could be some technical 47:47 difficulties so expect some delays when 47:49 we're 47:50 verbalizing back and forth um 47:54 team will respond to all the comments 47:55 and questions that we can tonight 47:58 however there may be some comments or 48:00 questions that will need some 48:02 additional analysis or some additional 48:04 research so that we can get you an 48:06 appropriate answer 48:08 again once all comments are presented 48:11 the moderator will ask if anyone would 48:13 like to speak 48:15 if there's no additional speakers at 48:17 that time if you've already spoken 48:19 we can open the floor back up to you 48:20 again and you can speak again if you 48:22 would like to 48:23 again we're going to use that two minute 48:25 duration so we can keep 48:26 the project moving and get everybody's 48:28 comments 48:32 again um if you would like to follow up 48:35 on your verbal comments and writing um 48:38 that is very helpful to us 48:40 um because if you just give us verbal 48:43 comments sometimes we have to rely on 48:44 our own memory of what you 48:45 are asking so it is very nice to have an 48:48 email or 48:49 a letter or even the chat box function 48:52 so that we can make sure that we fully 48:54 address all of your questions and 48:55 concerns 48:57 so moving on now to the conduct 49:01 obviously we we all need to be 49:02 respectful and considerate of the 49:04 opinions of others 49:05 um again the two minute time allotment 49:09 we'll try to keep that the best we can 49:11 if it's a little slower at the end and 49:13 we have more time and there's not a lot 49:14 of people you know we can 49:16 obviously talk longer any demeaning 49:19 derogatory inflammatory or vulgar 49:21 language 49:23 will result in removal from the meeting 49:26 and our moderators will be the ones 49:28 enforce writing enforcing 49:30 the rules and they will also 49:33 as you're verbalizing comments to us 49:35 they'll also let you know if you're 49:36 getting close to the two-minute mark 49:38 if we need to move it along so 49:43 lastly the the next slide 49:46 the public comment period for the 49:48 project is going to extend till november 49:50 2nd 2020 so if you do not want to speak 49:53 tonight 49:54 or you think of something else or uh 49:58 you know you remember something later on 50:01 you know you can always 50:02 mail those comments into my attention at 50:04 the odot district four 50:06 you can email me at brian.peck at 50:09 dot.ohio.gov or you can call me at the 50:11 telephone number listed 50:13 i usually try to respond same day if you 50:16 email me or call me 50:18 with the whole coven and working from 50:20 home sometimes the phone is a little 50:22 iffy it'll should go straight to 50:24 voicemail sometimes 50:25 but i do try to return those calls in 50:27 the same day 50:29 and again as we move forward with the 50:32 project 50:32 the public involvement period for this 50:36 meeting 50:36 is ends on november 2nd but the public 50:39 involvement process 50:40 never ends for the project so even when 50:43 we get past november 2nd 50:45 if you have questions or concerns or 50:47 something changes 50:49 don't hesitate to call me we 50:52 continue public involvement in through 50:54 construction 50:56 so if you can't get a hold of somebody 50:58 you have a question you're always 51:00 you know feel free to contact me and 51:01 i'll try to get you an answer as quickly 51:03 as possible 51:05 now um we're gonna move on to the 51:07 presentation portion of it 51:09 uh as lauren indicated that will be uh 51:11 mike woodring 51:13 uh mike's a roadway manager and licensed 51:15 engineer with aecom 51:17 and he's the lead design consultant for 51:20 the project 51:23 walk you through the rest of the slides 51:24 and round the bottom 51:26 to you thank you 51:32 thank you brian i appreciate it thank 51:34 you lauren 51:37 so this project is at the intersection 51:40 of state route 82 and chamberlain road 51:43 there in portage county 51:45 currently the intersection is a stop 51:47 condition along chamberlain road both 51:50 the north and south legs with state 51:52 route 82 as a free 51:54 unstopped movement currently there's an 51:57 overhead flasher sign 51:59 at the intersection on span wire these 52:02 posted speed limits are 52:04 45 miles per hour on state route 82 52:08 and on the north leg of chamberlain and 52:11 40 miles per hour on the southern leg of 52:16 chamberlain 52:19 why are we improving this intersection 52:21 well this intersection 52:22 it's all about safety this intersection 52:25 was identified 52:27 uh in 2017 52:30 it ranked number 30th on odot's list 52:33 of rural intersections and as part of 52:35 odot's highway safety improvement 52:37 program 52:39 odot has an extensive highway safety 52:41 improvement program 52:43 where they prioritize roadway 52:46 locations for safety studies and reviews 52:49 and they make recommendations for safety 52:51 improvements 52:54 typically the intersections or roadway 52:58 segments are divided up into rural 53:02 intersections rural segments rural 53:04 freeways 53:06 and urban intersection segments and 53:08 freeways 53:10 again this ranked number 30th on the 53:12 statewide rank 53:14 in 2017. 53:17 in 2019 odot commissioned the safety 53:20 study 53:21 for this intersection during a 53:24 three-year period 53:25 from 2016 to 2019 53:29 21 crashes were identified at this 53:31 intersection 53:33 approximately half of them resulted in 53:35 an injury 53:37 the traffic volumes along state route 82 53:41 is 7 150 vehicles 53:44 uh that's based on a 2022 uh 53:47 year projection and the volume the 53:50 traffic volume on chamberlain road is 53:53 3250. 53:55 um 45 miles per hour is considered 53:58 a high speed and the crashes 54:01 like i said half of them were injury 54:04 related which has some 54:06 severity to it the 2019 study 54:11 recommended a roundabout as the 54:12 preferred countermeasure to address the 54:14 safety concerns 54:18 this this this exhibit or graphic 54:22 represents the intersections i know it's 54:24 a little difficult to read but 54:26 the crashes at the intersection and at 54:29 the curve on the west leg of state route 54:31 82. 54:34 like i said from 2016 to 2019 54:38 there were a total of 30 crashes nine of 54:41 them were at the curve 54:42 and 21 were directly at the intersection 54:45 again half of those intercept 54:48 half of those crashes were injury 54:51 related 54:52 i would like to point out in july of 54:55 this year 54:55 odot already made some sign up upgrades 54:58 along this curve 55:00 providing better curve warning signage 55:03 on the west leg of state route 82. 55:08 this slide is this just a blow up of the 55:10 intersection 55:12 um and the crash data there 55:15 again like i said uh 21 crashes at the 55:18 intersection 55:20 the the thing to point out is the great 55:23 majority of these crashes were angle 55:25 type crashes or 55:26 t-bone type crashes crashes which 55:29 tend to be the most severe and have 55:33 the most injury opportunity for injury 55:42 the 2019 safety study 55:45 the purpose was to address the safety 55:47 concerns it looked at 55:50 the following counter measures of how 55:52 best to address those safety concerns 55:54 and these crashes and the crash severity 55:58 they looked at an always stop control 56:01 the installation 56:02 of a traffic signal a full traffic 56:04 signal not just the flasher 56:06 and the roundabout the installation of 56:09 the traffic signal was studied and found 56:11 that the volumes did not 56:13 meet the thresholds established by the 56:16 federal highway administration 56:19 the roundabout option mitigates those 56:23 t-bone or high high severity crashes 56:28 and provides the greatest safety benefit 56:31 the study determined that the 56:32 installation roundabout was the most 56:33 feasible and effective 56:35 option 56:38 so again why around about well around 56:41 about 56:42 um it it addresses safety 56:46 issues um the way it does that is 56:49 through 56:49 the the uh it has a less number 56:54 of conflict points than a standard cross 56:57 intersection it's 57:00 prior studies have identified that a 57:02 single lane roundabouts have 57:04 have a reduction in in injury type 57:07 crashes up to 76 57:10 percent and that's really because of the 57:13 the less conflict points 57:17 um it also enter 57:20 it operates and pushes traffic smoother 57:24 um it reduces contrast congestion 57:27 it also reduces traffic delay when cars 57:30 are idling 57:31 at a in a stop condition at a signal 57:35 um therefore by the the 57:39 the least less time spent idling as a 57:42 reduction in pollution 57:49 this graphic represents the actual 57:51 proposed improvements 57:53 at the state route 82 chamberlain 57:58 roundabout um a couple 58:02 items to point out and i'll try to use 58:04 my laser pointer 58:06 it is a single lane roundabout the per 58:08 the videos going through ahead of this 58:10 presentation 58:11 when it went through more complex 58:13 roundabouts 58:14 this is a single lane roundabout 58:17 um the project limits extend 58:21 approximately 500 feet on all legs of 58:23 the roundabout 58:25 the center of the roundabout is slightly 58:27 shifted to the 58:29 east and it will be not non-circular 58:33 it is an oval shape 138 by 125 58:37 feet um there are splitter islands on 58:40 each leg 58:42 of the roundabout 58:45 and that that is to 58:49 have the roundabout operate efficiently 58:51 and also to lower speeds 58:55 uh again to have the roundabout operate 58:58 center the roundabout have the traffic 59:00 operate smoother 59:01 the driveways are pushed further away 59:04 from the center of the roundabout 59:07 there's this pinkish 59:10 or light red patchwork 59:14 at the center of the roundabout that 59:16 designates a truck apron 59:18 so the the pavement is designed mostly 59:21 for passenger vehicles or smaller trucks 59:24 um there are some bigger trucks that go 59:26 through this intersection 59:27 and those trucks would use this truck 59:29 apron 59:31 and it's accommodated it accommodates 59:34 those larger 59:34 truck turning paths 59:39 other improvements are they'll be curb 59:41 and gutter through 59:42 the great majority of the project on all 59:45 four legs 59:46 with that there will be some insulation 59:48 on catch basin catch basins storm sewers 59:52 and we are also proposing to replace a 59:55 culvert on the west 59:56 leg approximately over here and on the 60:00 southern leg 60:03 features that help with safety are also 60:06 being installed as lighting 60:08 the the roundabout will be lit at the 60:10 yield lines and at the beginning of the 60:12 splitter islands 60:14 there will be some landscaping sort of 60:16 low level landscaping at the center of 60:18 the roundabout 60:20 inside of the truck apron and because of 60:23 the the 60:24 um the slight pavement widening utility 60:28 relocations will be required there's 60:30 several utility holes right at the 60:31 intersection those will 60:33 be needed to be moved 60:39 as identified in that safety study 60:43 there were there were crashes on the 60:45 west leg of state route 82. as i 60:48 mentioned 60:48 in july odot installed some 60:51 curve curve warning signage or 60:55 improvements to the curve warning 60:56 signage as part of this project we are 60:59 also going to be doing some resurfacing 61:02 and adding center and edge lane edge 61:04 line rumble stripes 61:06 through the curve 61:12 maintenance of traffic is a big big 61:14 element 61:15 anytime we're doing construction 61:17 especially right at an intersection 61:20 the official state route 82 detour is 61:23 shown on this graphic 61:24 and it will follow the state routes so 61:27 the state route 82 detour will be from 61:29 state route 43 61:30 to state route 303 to state route 44 61:34 and back up to state route 82. 61:37 that's an approximate distance of 17 61:39 miles 61:41 the currently that the detour is 61:44 planning to be in place for 90 days 61:48 um so during the construction but 61:51 during the detour on that 90 day 61:54 duration 61:55 access for all the residents and 61:56 businesses within the project limits 61:58 will be maintained 62:03 chamberlain road will also have a local 62:05 detour again for the same 62:08 duration and that is shown on this 62:10 exhibit it will be wind chill to frost 62:13 the pioneer trail and that distance is 62:16 approximately 5.5 miles 62:19 again the the local access will be 62:21 maintained 62:28 as part of the process for any 62:31 for a project of this type there are 62:32 three main basic investigations 62:35 usually undertaken regarding 62:37 environmental investigations 62:39 those are ecological cultural resources 62:43 and regulated regulated materials 62:45 formerly known as environmental site 62:47 assessments 62:48 if any of the basic investigations 62:50 reveal concerns for the project they may 62:52 be followed up by additional 62:54 investigations 62:56 in this case for this project none of 62:57 the investigations revealed real 63:00 concerns 63:03 the results of the ecological survey we 63:05 found that the project should have 63:06 little to no impacts on streams 63:09 or impacts on wetlands and threatened 63:12 and endangered species habitat 63:14 habitats would be avoided altogether 63:18 the cultural resources investigation 63:20 found 63:23 that the project would have the the 63:26 disturbances would be limited 63:27 to mainly around already disturbed areas 63:30 and no further arc 63:32 archaeological investigations are 63:33 warranted 63:35 similar similarly the investigation 63:38 found that no 63:39 history architecture properties are 63:41 eligible 63:42 for or listed in the national register 63:44 of historic places will be affected by 63:46 the project 63:47 and therefore no further history 63:49 architecture investigations are 63:51 warranted 63:53 the regula regulated materials 63:55 investigation 63:57 also did not find any properties in the 63:58 project area that caused concerns for 64:00 regulate 64:01 regulated materials and again no further 64:04 investigations were 64:06 warranted as brian mentioned and lauren 64:10 mentioned 64:10 in the introductions once the comments 64:13 for the public and stakeholders are 64:15 fully gathered for example through this 64:18 public information meeting 64:19 and addressed within 30 days a 64:22 categorical exclusion document will be 64:24 prepared for the project 64:26 documenting the results of the 64:27 investigations and the public 64:28 involvement 64:30 at that time the finalization of this 64:32 document would be considered 64:34 environmental clearance 64:35 so that's a major step in the odot 64:38 process 64:40 this graphic shows the uh proposed right 64:43 away impacts 64:44 on the project um the thing to note i 64:48 know it's a little tough to 64:50 see the text and things but the the 64:53 purple 64:54 purplish hatch work is where proposed 64:58 right away 64:59 permanent right away is being proposed 65:01 to be acquired 65:03 the cyan or light light blue areas 65:07 are areas of temporary right away which 65:10 would be needed to 65:12 needed for construction of the project 65:15 and then 65:16 the temporary rights away once the 65:18 project's completed would be 65:20 given back to the current property 65:23 owners 65:24 though those temporary rights away are 65:26 really needed 65:27 for things of relocating the driveways 65:30 like i mentioned 65:31 further away from the center of the 65:33 roundabout 65:34 um with that i guess i wanted to turn it 65:36 over to chris huff would 65:38 go over some more of the right-of-way 65:40 acquisition process 65:48 thanks mike good evening everyone my 65:50 name is christoph 65:51 and i'm the odot district 4 real estate 65:54 administrator 65:55 uh for district 4 as i said uh my office 65:58 will be handling the review and approval 66:00 of 66:00 my plans as well as the acquisition of 66:03 any additional right-of-way needed 66:05 i can provide you a brief timeline of 66:07 where we are now and what we will 66:09 will be doing in the very near future 66:11 right odot is currently finalizing the 66:13 right-of-way plans that will be used for 66:15 the acquisition 66:17 these will be based on the stage one 66:18 detailed design plans 66:21 once these plans are approved odot will 66:23 authorize 66:24 its acquisition consultant for this 66:26 project that will be o.r 66:28 colon and associates o.r colon will be 66:30 working on behalf of 66:32 odot and will be the point of contact 66:34 for property owners who have property 66:36 that the state will need 66:37 o.r colon will have pre-qualified 66:39 appraisers complete the appraisals 66:41 needed for this project 66:43 these will be reviewed and approved by 66:45 oda or colon 66:47 will then prepare the acquisition 66:48 package and schedule a meeting with each 66:51 affected owner 66:52 the owners will be presented with a copy 66:54 of their appraisal 66:56 the plans for the project and describe 66:58 and describe 66:59 how their property is affected at this 67:01 time the acquisition agent will also 67:03 explain the amount of compensation 67:06 involved based on the appraisal provided 67:09 this acquisition time frame will all 67:11 occur between october of 2020 67:14 and through march of 2021 thank you 67:18 back to you mike 67:25 thank you chris 67:29 funding so the project the 67:33 the total project cost for these safety 67:35 improvements is 67:36 anticipated to be 3.1 million dollars 67:39 of that the construction costs are 67:42 estimated at 2.2 million dollars 67:46 the project construction is funded with 67:48 federal and state 67:49 safety funds and a portion of odot 67:52 district preservation funds 67:58 schedule the as i mentioned the safety 68:01 study was commissioned and completed in 68:03 uh 2019 68:05 at that time early in jan in january of 68:08 2020 the 68:10 the design of the safety improvement 68:12 projects 68:13 commenced and here we are today october 68:16 1st is the public meeting 68:18 the right-of-way acquisition process 68:21 that chris described 68:23 will be will begin in the fall of 2020 68:26 so coming up 68:28 early in the spring of 2021 the utility 68:30 relocations specif 68:32 like those polls i mentioned will be 68:34 relocated starting in the spring of 2021 68:37 with 68:38 the at the actual roadway and roundabout 68:40 construction happening in the fall of 68:42 2021 68:44 that will go all the way through the 68:46 fall of 2010 68:47 2022 is when the construction will 68:51 is scheduled to be completed 68:56 with that that is our presentation and i 68:59 appreciate everybody for listening and 69:01 participation 69:03 we are now can open enough for the 69:07 question and answers 69:08 thank you and 69:11 if you'd like to enter the speaker queue 69:13 so that you can pose your question to 69:15 the project team 69:16 uh you would do that if you're joining 69:18 us by phone 69:20 you would press the star key and 69:23 then follow the prompts to enter the 69:25 speaker queue 69:26 and we'll give you an opportunity to 69:29 provide your question 69:30 to the team we do have a couple of 69:33 questions that were submitted in the 69:35 chat and we have a voicemail that we 69:36 could play 69:37 so um actually i think i'll play the 69:39 voicemail first if that's all right with 69:40 you 69:41 uh brian and uh we'll listen to that 69:47 hello my name is justin cotterlich i'm 69:49 calling about the roundabout 69:51 you guys are thinking about putting at 69:54 chamberlain 69:55 and state route 82 69:58 i don't think it's a good idea it will 70:00 actually slow traffic 70:03 what you need to do is grind down the 70:05 small hump 70:06 in the road in front of the small 70:08 cottage and get rid of the flashing 70:10 light 70:12 because if you go through the paperwork 70:13 you'll notice there's been more 70:15 accidents since the flashing light and 70:18 also the small little hump in the road 70:20 is the reason why people can't see cars 70:22 coming and the accidents are caused 70:26 most of them were not due to speed if 70:29 you have any more questions 70:31 for me you can reach me at 70:35 i'm not going to play his phone number 70:36 for the record so um 70:39 i don't know if brian you want to 70:41 address that or assign it to someone 70:43 else but 70:44 remember if you're going to be speaking 70:45 now please unmute yourself 70:47 okay thank you um and i do think that 70:50 that's a very 70:51 uh good observation as far as the 70:54 geometrics go 70:55 west of the intersection 70:58 the great thing about a roundabout 71:00 design is that 71:02 it does slow the traffic down as it gets 71:04 to the intersection 71:06 eliminates all those conflict points and 71:09 it does get rid of the far 71:10 side crashes the caller had mentioned 71:14 the the humper or vertical profile 71:17 in the roadway and that may be a 71:20 contributing factor to some of the angle 71:22 crashes from one direction 71:24 but that does not necessarily explain 71:26 the angle crashes that we're observing 71:28 from the opposite direction 71:30 so from the district's point of view 71:34 the roundabout is a very good solution 71:37 for the intersection 71:38 and the fact that it does address the 71:39 geometrics to the west 71:41 it does address the speed coming into 71:43 the intersection 71:44 and it removes those conflict points and 71:47 makes the intersection 71:48 much safer overall and that is the 71:50 primary goal of the project 71:52 is to improve safety at the intersection 71:56 does anybody else have anything they 71:57 want to add to that 72:01 hey brian this is aaron um i'm looking 72:04 at the crashes before the signal 72:05 wasn't the flashing light was installed 72:08 uh we had about 72:10 a little over three angle crashes per 72:12 year on average 72:14 and now since the flasher has been 72:16 installed we are 72:17 seeing a little under four crashes so 72:20 it's 72:20 we're seeing slightly more crashes but 72:22 that could be contributed just to 72:24 variability out there in the rural area 72:26 and also uh with traffic volumes 72:28 slightly increasing 72:30 i mean you will tend to get a higher 72:32 yeah more frequent crashes 72:34 and the safety study did identify the 72:37 vertical profile 72:38 west of the intersection but uh through 72:42 site disas measurements it was 72:43 determined that it's not 72:45 blocking site distance but it you know 72:47 it could be somewhat limited to the west 72:52 yeah thank you aaron but again um 72:55 that's the great thing about the 72:56 roundabout design is that it it 72:59 mitigates many issues out there whether 73:02 they're 73:02 a sight distance issue or anything else 73:05 that roundabout design will 73:07 address those problems eliminate those 73:10 far side 73:11 angle crashes t-bones should 73:14 dramatically reduce injuries at the 73:16 intersection 73:17 and improve safety overall for the 73:19 intersection 73:23 okay another question that was submitted 73:25 through the chat brian 73:27 is why not a traffic light first to see 73:29 if that will help i believe you 73:30 addressed this but 73:31 in case you want to address it directly 73:34 yeah mike's mike's presentation did 73:36 discuss 73:36 that we did do a traffic warrant 73:39 analysis 73:39 as part of the safety study now the 73:42 traffic warrant analysis and 73:44 aaron or anybody else feel free to 73:45 correct me if i say this wrong 73:47 uh we are required to go through a 73:50 warrant analysis that looks at turning 73:52 movements look at 73:53 traffic counts and there's a series of 73:55 warrants 73:56 that uh you estimate and if you can 74:00 satisfy those warrants then a signal is 74:03 warranted 74:04 or needed or can be installed at an 74:07 intersection 74:08 unfortunately at the 82 intersection 74:10 based on existing traffic conditions 74:13 that intersection did not meet warrants 74:16 so we would not be eligible to use 74:19 federal funding to install a traffic 74:21 light 74:22 now regardless of the warrant analysis i 74:25 again 74:25 go back to the roundabout design and how 74:28 effective it is 74:30 the uh signalized intersection would not 74:33 necessarily 74:34 eliminate the far side angle crashes and 74:37 the t-bones 74:39 the severe injury crashes 74:42 it would potentially reduce crashes but 74:45 i think we would still 74:46 see driver error we would still see 74:49 severe crashes out there 74:51 and again the primary goal of the 74:54 project 74:54 is to reduce the severe crashes at the 74:57 intersection 74:58 which makes the roundabout design far 75:01 superior to a traffic signal 75:04 if anybody else has anything to add to 75:06 that feel free 75:09 hey brian this is aaron again um yeah 75:11 we're looking at the 75:12 signal warrant uh thresholds uh 75:15 typically for the most common warrant 75:17 that's used to warrant a signal you're 75:18 looking for 75:20 volumes over an eight hour period that 75:23 need to meet the thresholds 75:25 and just in general there are 75:28 one or two hours closer to the evening 75:31 four to six pm 75:32 range that are close to meeting the 75:34 threshold but throughout the rest of the 75:36 day 75:36 the volume is much lower and would need 75:39 to 75:39 you know increase by at least 50 percent 75:41 before a 75:43 warrant threshold would be satisfied 75:48 in from a congestion perspective around 75:51 intersection would also be superior to 75:53 the traffic signal because 75:55 if there are breaks in traffic uh 75:57 traffic will flow continuously 76:00 um the large trucking movements and 76:02 things in the intersection also the 76:04 roundabout will accommodate those 76:06 and uh it's just a it's a very good 76:09 situation for a roundabout it's a it's a 76:11 good engineering solution for what's 76:13 going on at the intersection 76:17 okay and it looks like we do have a 76:19 caller on the line who wishes to speak 76:20 to the project team so i'll give them an 76:22 opportunity to speak 76:24 um it may take a second due to the delay 76:26 so just be patient 76:31 hello my name is lydia i live on 76:34 chamberlain road about two miles 76:38 north of state route 82. 76:43 my first concern was also 76:46 a questioning why not have just a 76:50 regular four-way 76:52 regular traffic light 76:56 and just listening now i i understand 76:59 your reasoning about that 77:02 however i'm thinking that there are 77:06 a lot of other uh 77:09 i think the cost of this is 77:12 pretty extreme and we have a couple 77:15 other 77:15 intersections on 82 77:19 in manoy township that 77:22 are extremely dangerous as well 77:26 one of them being 82 and frost road the 77:29 other one being 77:30 82 and manaway center road 77:34 and i was just wondering if the money 77:37 would be better spent 77:38 putting a four-way as much as we don't 77:42 like to have to stop that 77:43 often putting a regular traffic light 77:47 at chamberlain 82 77:51 and unfortunately not far down the road 77:55 at frost in 82 and maybe even at uh 77:59 at um manaway center in 82 78:03 so uh it's you know 78:06 cost wise i'm wondering where money 78:09 would be better spent but i'm all for 78:11 safety 78:14 and that is for sure also 78:18 my other question is is this just an 78:21 informational 78:23 meeting is this a done deal or do 78:26 peop i didn't quite understand do people 78:29 still have 78:29 input to either 78:32 uh have some other uh 78:36 finalization of this project or is this 78:39 a done deal 78:40 can the citizens still say they don't 78:43 want this or is this a done deal 78:45 thank you 78:48 okay thank you very much for for taking 78:51 the time to participate tonight and 78:53 providing your comments 78:55 um aaron do you want to start with the 78:59 82 manaway and frost road i will say 79:02 that 79:02 the township trustees have also been in 79:04 contact with the district 79:06 and i believe the 82 and man away 79:10 uh that's been under study or man away 79:12 center road that's been 79:13 being studied for several years now 79:15 we're still looking for 79:16 the best solution for that intersection 79:18 and then the frost road intersection 79:19 also just recently came up 79:22 again aaron do you have anything to add 79:24 on that 79:27 uh yes i mean the 82 at mandela center 79:30 that was we actually recently just 79:32 completed a safety study 79:34 and at the moment this past spring 79:37 we implemented a short-term counter 79:39 measure by adding 79:41 led crossroad warning signs along 82 79:45 to help make the intersection more 79:47 conspicuous 79:49 that area is within a historic district 79:52 so that severely limits um 79:55 what we can do or justify 79:58 and so we're currently continuing to 80:00 monitor that intersection 80:03 to see how if the led 80:06 advanced warning signs have any effect 80:09 and if they do not we will you know 80:10 look into that further evaluate possibly 80:14 profile adjustments 80:16 or you know we again consider it a 80:18 roundabout there 80:20 um we a signal warrant again it doesn't 80:23 meet signal warrants 80:25 um you know there's a lot of these 80:27 intersections that 80:28 as the volumes tend to start increasing 80:30 and people are 80:32 i guess becoming impatient they do tend 80:33 to take more risk and pull out 80:36 and but it's not quite to the volume 80:39 where it would satisfy a signal worth 80:45 at frost road i guess i'm not quite 80:49 aware of that location 80:58 the the frost road intersection was just 81:00 brought up recently 81:02 and i think that that's one of the 81:04 intersections that we had discussed 81:06 taking a look at here in the near future 81:08 to see if we can 81:09 see a a crash trend or an issue there or 81:13 come up with some potential short-term 81:16 solutions for that intersection it it 81:20 wasn't on anybody's radar i don't think 81:23 uh as being a severe crash location but 81:26 but this is now the second time that 81:28 it's been brought up so 81:30 the district will definitely look into 81:32 that and we'll follow up on that 81:37 brian do you want to address her um the 81:39 part of her question where she asks if 81:41 this is a done deal 81:42 or if the public still has input yeah um 81:46 as far as the 81:49 82 intersection in the roundabout design 81:53 the the safety study and the engineering 81:56 and 81:58 crash analysis and traffic analysis 82:01 everything points to the roundabout 82:03 nothing is ever a done deal but 82:07 i think this thing has been through so 82:09 many reviews 82:10 and so many different professionals have 82:13 looked at this 82:15 that the public involvement for this 82:17 particular project is more or less to 82:19 let 82:19 the public know what odot's preferred 82:23 alternative 82:24 is and then to ask for input in regards 82:26 to how we construct it 82:28 obviously if if somebody had 82:32 was identified something that was a 82:34 fatal fall with a roundabout 82:36 intersection no it would not be a done 82:37 deal we would back up the truck and we 82:39 would 82:40 uh re-engineer and and look at other 82:43 alternatives 82:45 but i guess the the weight of evidence 82:48 so far is all leading back to that 82:51 roundabout design 82:52 so i i guess to to answer your question 82:57 are we looking at other alternatives 82:59 right now no but we do 83:01 want and value the public's input for 83:04 what we feel is the best engineering 83:06 solution for that intersection 83:10 does that does that make sense um 83:14 i think so brian um we've already ended 83:17 her 83:17 session so um she cannot respond 83:21 okay um but if 83:25 if anyone has any follow-up after this 83:27 after we're done addressing all of the 83:28 questions that are coming in tonight 83:31 please email the project team or call 83:33 like brian said you can call and speak 83:34 with him directly 83:37 next question in the chat is my question 83:39 or concern 83:40 is that this road is highly traveled 83:41 with semis and gravel haulers 83:44 causing delay with their ability to 83:46 navigate efficiently 83:48 also these roundabouts serve a hazard 83:50 when not properly cleared and salted 83:52 when there is ice and snow 83:54 will the county step up and maintain in 83:57 bad weather i travel this all the time 83:59 and the attention 84:00 to clearing and salting in the winter is 84:02 very poor 84:06 okay thank you um 84:09 as far as the county route goes 84:11 obviously that doesn't fall under 84:13 odot's jurisdiction to maintain but we 84:16 will certainly follow up with the county 84:17 about that 84:19 and let them know what those concerns 84:23 the truck traffic the design of the 84:26 roundabout is 84:27 is taking into consideration 84:30 very large trucks there is also a 84:34 modular home park just down to the east 84:37 of the project area 84:39 when we first started looking at the 84:41 intersection that was one of the first 84:42 things that jumped out at us that we 84:44 will have to 84:46 accommodate very large vehicles in fact 84:48 oversized vehicles 84:50 in the roundabout intersection mike i 84:52 don't know if you want to speak to 84:53 the radius and i know you eluded to 84:56 earlier about the truck apron and the 84:58 abilities of the trucks to use the 85:00 entire 85:01 portion of that roundabout to make it 85:03 through 85:09 yeah thanks um yes so 85:12 like brian mentioned we did look at a uh 85:15 larger vehicle 85:16 larger uh truck it's actually designated 85:19 as a wb62 85:21 to accommodate those movements um 85:24 through 85:25 the roundabout using the truck apron we 85:28 also as you mentioned 85:29 uh looked at oversized load going back 85:32 and forth along 85:33 82. um that is why it's configured 85:37 um this the pinkish 85:40 light red truck apron has the 85:42 configuration it does 85:44 because we've looked at all those 85:46 turning paths from all those directions 85:48 and going to all the directions 85:50 and it is it is designed to 85:53 have the wheel pass um 85:57 use that truck apron so i i would say we 86:00 have thought of that 86:01 and have accommodated for those larger 86:03 commercial vehicles 86:05 i mean we've observed the the larger 86:07 vehicles 86:08 and trucks going through that 86:10 intersection and making those turns and 86:12 this is actually 86:13 will be more accommodating than what's 86:15 out there now with the tight radii 86:20 thank you mike so again we will follow 86:23 up with the county engineer 86:25 uh engineer's office on the snow and ice 86:28 comment 86:29 um but i do know both the county 86:31 engineer and odot we take 86:32 snow and ice very seriously and we try 86:35 to do our best 86:36 that's unfortunately district 4 or most 86:40 of district 4 portage county ashtabula 86:42 county 86:43 summit county they experience heavy 86:44 snowfall so it is a challenge to keep 86:46 the roads clear but 86:48 we are doing our best but jackie is 86:51 there anything else 86:52 oh yeah yeah okay this one has two parts 86:56 or yes can i add something else to that 86:58 of course 87:00 thank you um and just i guess you know 87:03 obviously we've already discussed how 87:05 the roundabout does slow traffic down 87:07 um you know at times you will have to 87:09 yield and 87:10 there will be some delay associated with 87:13 that 87:14 uh we you know we use our traffic 87:16 analysis 87:17 programs to calculate the capacity and 87:20 the delay that we 87:21 would expect so you know during the 87:23 design or the 87:24 design hours the peak hours you know 87:26 typically your 87:27 your evening from five to six a 87:31 typical user could experience like an 87:33 average of maybe eight seconds of delay 87:34 so pretty much 87:35 you'll pull up you may see it you may 87:38 have to yield to a car you may not 87:39 if you don't have to yield you can 87:40 continue through the roundabout 87:42 um you know vehicle regular size 87:45 vehicles could you know 87:46 be able to travel 15 to 20 miles per 87:47 hour through the roundabout itself 87:50 obviously trucks will have to move 87:51 slower 87:53 uh but overall there's gonna be you know 87:55 every user 87:57 will experience you know 10 seconds or 87:58 less average delay 88:00 and then just hitting on the previous 88:02 question um 88:04 in terms of the initial cost of this of 88:06 a signal versus a roundabout 88:08 we also factor in a lot the user cost 88:11 meaning how you know serious injuries 88:15 and and how that affects the user so 88:17 it's not necessarily just the upfront 88:19 cost 88:20 but it's the safer intersection there's 88:22 less severe crashes roundabouts are 88:25 typically you know 70 percent less or 88:27 reduction in severe 88:28 type crashes and so you know 88:32 signals are not i guess the end all be 88:34 all in terms of safety 88:36 uh usually increase the amount of rear 88:37 ends and you still have people running 88:40 the red lights 88:41 um so we look at the total cost 88:44 life cycle cost of the roundabout and 88:47 you know i know in this one i think 88:49 um there is a there is a benefit cost a 88:51 positive benefit cost ratio for us 88:54 for the in terms of safety so again it's 88:57 not necessarily the upfront cost always 88:59 but we're looking at the 89:00 long-term cost and the cost to each user 89:02 roadway user 89:06 thank you aaron and sometimes we do 89:08 forget about that user cost 89:10 and you know we look at those 89:11 construction dollars which are 89:13 you know extremely large construction 89:16 dollars 89:17 but we forget the costs of of crashes uh 89:21 you know you and especially if you think 89:23 about the cost of a fatality 89:25 uh crash that occurs out there those 89:28 fatality crashes can end up costing more 89:31 than this construction project when it's 89:32 all said and done 89:34 so while we need to be cautious 89:38 as to how we spend taxpayers dollars for 89:40 these projects 89:42 again we feel that this is a very 89:45 warranted very important 89:47 safety project in district four and we 89:50 want to get this intersection built 89:55 okay jackie what's next okay next uh 89:58 where can we get a copy of the slide 90:00 presentation 90:00 first of all that's already posted to 90:02 the project website 90:04 um and then this one has a few questions 90:07 in it 90:07 please explain the vehicle traffic using 90:11 year 2022 what are the vehicle numbers 90:14 when the survey was taken 90:16 please describe the difference between 90:17 the current situation and what will be 90:19 needed 90:20 to meet the federal guidelines for a 90:21 traffic light 90:25 aaron and mike do you want to tackle 90:27 that one 90:29 and if you need me to repeat anything 90:31 please let me know 90:35 i don't have the i mean the numbers in 90:37 front of me we can provide that to the 90:40 user or the the commenter 90:43 um and i already you know sort of went 90:45 over the signal warrants 90:47 of you know how much lower they would 90:49 need to 90:50 how much the volumes would have to 90:51 increase in order to satisfy a signal 90:56 okay i i know that the the traffic 90:59 numbers when you start looking at 91:01 the years can be a little confusing 91:05 basically when we have a 2022 traffic 91:09 volume 91:09 for example that volume is estimated 91:13 based on a real traffic count 91:15 so we would go out to 82 in in 91:18 camberlain road and we would actually 91:20 physically count traffic 91:22 and then we look at traffic modeling 91:25 scenarios 91:26 and we work with the metropolitan 91:28 planning organization who has growth 91:30 factors and other 91:33 algorithms and things that they apply to 91:35 show growth 91:36 in traffic over time the 91:41 actual measured traffic volumes the 91:45 the actual counts are not substantially 91:48 lower than what the 22 91:50 numbers are for the traffic in this 91:52 vicinity the 91:54 growth in this area of portage county 91:56 while it is growing is is not 91:58 growing rapidly so the actual 92:01 council are very similar to that now we 92:04 we when we do those 92:05 uh warrant analysis and things we do 92:07 look at current traffic numbers 92:10 we don't forecast out to 2040 or way out 92:12 uh 92:13 obviously we could probably meet 92:15 warrants 92:16 then uh but again it sort of boils back 92:19 to what's the best fix for this 92:20 particular intersection 92:22 and you know based on our current 92:25 scenario 92:27 um i'm sure there were some other 92:28 questions in there that we probably 92:29 missed jackie could you kind of go over 92:31 that again 92:32 yes um so 92:35 please explain the vehicle traffic using 92:38 your 2022 92:41 what are the vehicle traffic numbers 92:43 when the survey was 92:44 taken and please describe the difference 92:47 between the current situation 92:48 and what would be needed to meet the 92:50 federal guidelines for a traffic light 92:56 this is a question that we would have to 92:59 go back and do a little research to get 93:00 the 93:01 exact numbers uh and then we can follow 93:04 up with 93:05 that individual and provide that data or 93:07 post the 93:08 information on the project website with 93:11 the comment summary or something perhaps 93:13 absolutely absolutely i mean if they if 93:15 we have their contact information that 93:17 we can provide that directly to them it 93:18 may be easier to 93:20 to uh get the uh 93:24 the safety study and go through those 93:26 numbers 93:27 very good um okay here's the next 93:30 the next submitter says i have a couple 93:32 of questions the roundabout looks very 93:34 nice 93:35 will there be any landscaping in the 93:37 center and 93:38 why does the old country n have only one 93:41 driveway 93:46 okay uh i might correct me if i'm wrong 93:49 there will be some limited landscaping 93:51 with the roundabout or no 93:55 yes that's correct there will be some 93:58 some landscaping in this 93:59 the very center be more inside of the 94:03 truck apron 94:04 uh the the amount and the height of 94:06 those are still being developed but 94:08 they're 94:09 i wouldn't call it substantial 94:11 landscaping at this point 94:12 right it could be low maintenance 94:14 landscaping and 94:16 some of the landscaping is actually uh 94:18 part of the roundabout design and 94:20 function 94:21 is to focus the drivers attention to 94:24 their left 94:25 so that they can they can see that 94:27 oncoming traffic so 94:28 the there is a a method to 94:32 the landscaping in order to enhance 94:34 safety at the intersection 94:37 regarding the single entrance exit drive 94:41 again a safety project in a big part of 94:45 safety 94:46 on our roadways is access management 94:49 so if you have large parking lots 94:52 uh where people could come in and out 94:55 freely 94:56 then that poses a problem for traveling 94:59 vehicles 95:01 the other aspect is is that the further 95:03 away we can work the drive entrances 95:06 away from the roundabout the safer the 95:07 roundabout intersection is the less 95:09 conflict we have close to the 95:11 intersection 95:12 so the single access drive that's 95:14 proposed for that property 95:17 is based on safety 95:21 does anybody else have anything to add 95:22 on that 95:29 okay 95:33 okay moving on to the next question i 95:35 can't see justifying 3.5 million for 95:38 five accidents 95:39 a year is there a better way to spend 95:41 this money 95:43 yeah and again sometimes we do get 95:45 caught up in the construction dollars 95:47 and that that sticker shock from that 95:49 construction price and or that total 95:51 project price 95:53 uh but again i would point back to the 95:55 type of crashes that are occurring at 95:57 the intersection 95:58 the fact that 50 of those crashes are 96:00 resulting in injury 96:02 uh when you start to look at the overall 96:04 user cost or the cost 96:06 to the the public uh 96:10 that's a lot of dollars and this this 96:11 project is actually 96:13 inexpensive compared to what could be 96:15 the costs out there 96:17 uh if you were to experience fatalities 96:19 or serious injuries and accidents 96:22 so again when odot selects safety 96:25 projects and looks at alternatives we we 96:27 look at cost benefit 96:29 benefit ratios there are several factors 96:32 that weigh 96:33 into it uh beyond even the professional 96:35 judgment 96:36 and you know we have review boards or 96:39 committees that 96:40 review safety applications uh these are 96:43 made up from 96:44 the metropolitan planning organizations 96:46 the the local stakeholders 96:49 the the odot at the district level odot 96:52 at central office level 96:54 and each one of these groups are 96:56 comprised of 96:58 traffic experts engineers 97:01 safety specialists people that are very 97:03 knowledgeable about these safety 97:05 projects and they consider and weigh 97:06 those costs 97:07 versus the benefits and this particular 97:10 project scored very well 97:12 like mike said it's ranked i believe 97:14 30th in the state for rural 97:15 intersections 97:17 that's in the entire state of ohio if 97:20 you really think about how many 97:21 intersections there are in the state of 97:22 ohio 97:24 that's pretty significant and so 97:27 as a district as a state we feel that 97:30 investment and safety is paramount 97:32 and the cost for this particular project 97:35 is well warranted 97:40 can you review why it is oval again 97:42 rather than circular 97:46 mike we'll leave that one to you 97:50 thank you yep so we actually looked at 97:53 several 97:54 i guess i did sort of gloss over that 97:56 but um we did look at the placement of 97:58 the center of the roundabout 98:01 and the actual configuration or geometry 98:05 of all the legs 98:06 and this was um we looked at several 98:09 alternatives 98:11 and we had the when you considered all 98:14 the impacts to all the surrounding 98:16 properties the oval configuration 98:19 came out to be the preferred 98:22 configuration 98:23 which helped minimize 98:26 impacts to the global project 98:29 a lot of geometrics goes into it is how 98:33 these legs approach into and out of the 98:36 roundabout 98:37 and again back to those truck turning 98:39 paths and things like that 98:41 you have to weigh all that in and so we 98:44 did look at a circular 98:46 um a couple circular options and a 98:48 couple oval options 98:50 and this is the one that that came out 98:53 to have the to be preferred 99:01 again i would add yep and i would add 99:03 too that when we look at those designs 99:05 too that we do take into 99:07 account things like right away impacts 99:08 and things like that as well 99:10 access for the adjacent properties all 99:12 of that gets factored in 99:15 absolutely this though that a lot of a 99:18 lot of thought went into that not just 99:20 construction 99:21 and the geometry but the the impacts um 99:24 to these 99:25 neighboring properties so that's how 99:29 we got to this configuration this 99:31 placement of the center of the 99:32 roundabout 99:33 absolutely 99:37 okay how do accidents here compared to 99:40 44 99:40 and mantua center road 99:46 that might be something that we would 99:48 have to look up to get the exact numbers 99:50 uh 99:51 i mean i can't expect aaron or anybody 99:53 else to 99:54 just recall those numbers off the top of 99:56 their head 99:58 okay but we can definitely follow up on 100:00 that and get that information 100:02 posted out there we we do recognize that 100:04 there is a safety 100:05 issue at manaway center intersection 100:09 and like i said previously we've been 100:12 working on that intersection for quite a 100:14 while 100:15 i think in my emails just easily i can 100:18 go back to 2013 100:20 when we started to look hard at that 100:22 intersection and doing the uh 100:24 i believe we wanted to cut the 100:25 embankments back to to uh 100:27 increase sight distance again as aaron 100:30 mentioned that is located in a historic 100:32 district 100:33 so by law we have to look at all 100:36 available alternatives that minimize or 100:39 avoid impacts to that historic district 100:41 it's it's not quite as easy as this 100:43 intersection where we can go in and 100:45 purchase right away there are a lot more 100:49 requirements for that particular 100:52 intersection 100:53 but we will definitely follow up on 100:54 those crashes and get you exact numbers 101:00 okay the next one says i believe there 101:02 is far too much 101:03 large truck traffic for this to make 101:05 sense the cost 101:07 is ludicrous when you consider we're 101:09 addressing about five accidents per year 101:10 improving visibility at the intersection 101:12 would be more helpful in my mind 101:14 i drive this route often and the biggest 101:16 problem in winter is the lack of 101:18 treatment of road surfaces you can buy a 101:19 lot of salt for three million dollars 101:21 and we've already addressed that so 101:23 we'll move on to the next 101:24 one uh how many more roundabouts are you 101:27 planning for state route 88 in mantua 101:29 township for the future 101:30 mantua township is a large producer of 101:33 aggregate and many heavy trucks 101:35 use our roads on a daily basis 101:37 especially chamberlain did this project 101:39 consider this issue 101:43 again that roundabout will be designed 101:46 in a manner that will ex 101:47 not only take the the larger truck 101:49 traffic as far as the size of the truck 101:51 traffic but also the weight 101:52 uh that that won't be a concern for the 101:54 roundabout design 101:56 uh as far as other roundabouts proposed 101:59 in 102:00 portage county or on 82 i'm not aware 102:04 of any other roundabouts currently 102:06 proposed on state route 82 102:09 and i'm not sure that i know of any that 102:11 are proposed in manaway township we can 102:14 definitely 102:14 follow up on that i can contact the 102:16 county engineer's office to see if they 102:18 have anything planned 102:20 and we can get that information posted 102:21 to the website 102:24 right yeah brian i i'm not aware of any 102:27 as well planned anytime we have a safety 102:30 location 102:31 that we need to evaluate the 102:33 intersection control 102:34 we do always consider a roundabout 102:37 especially when a signal warrants 102:38 are not met because it is a very safe 102:42 traffic control um and it also provides 102:46 you know better capacity than a signal 102:47 would 102:48 usually 20 better capacity or less delay 102:51 than a signal would actually cause 102:53 so something we always consider but um 102:55 sometimes you you know you do have to 102:56 look at what the impacts are and if it's 102:58 feasible and reasonable 103:00 and you know ultimately cost effective 103:02 if it's going to cost too much money 103:03 we're not going to see the benefit 103:04 you know it's not something we're going 103:06 to pursue but at this time there's none 103:09 that i'm aware of 103:10 along 82 but it's something that you 103:13 know as 103:14 we continue in the future something we 103:15 always consider 103:20 thank you we have another voicemail that 103:23 was left that i could play for you 103:24 now my name is ken chitman and i have a 103:28 question regarding the 103:29 um the situation with the crashes at the 103:32 intersection of chamberlain in 82 103:35 um i thought i heard that there were 21 103:37 crashes over a three or four year period 103:39 that wasn't specified it was just 2016 103:41 to 2019. 103:42 what percentage of those accidents were 103:44 involved impaired drivers 103:46 and if it's a significant percentage are 103:48 we actually going to spend a whole bunch 103:50 of money to save people from themselves 103:52 because 103:53 a roundabout will be just as bad if 103:55 somebody's impaired they're not going to 103:56 understand what the heck do 103:59 the other thought i had was 104:02 as you go further west on state route 82 104:07 in between twinsburg and aurora there 104:08 are signs it's a dangerous intersection 104:11 have has any consideration been given to 104:14 actually putting up 104:15 additional signs sounded like additional 104:17 signage at the curve was 104:19 a benefit anyway that would be 104:23 my question thank you 104:27 those are very good questions um 104:31 aaron would you like to try to tackle 104:32 the impaired driver 104:35 as far as how those types of crashes are 104:37 factored into our 104:39 safety studies 104:42 yeah yes i'm on the you know when we are 104:45 looking at the crashes we always 104:46 that's coded in the crashes so we are 104:48 aware 104:50 if the crashes are a cause of an ovi 104:55 um i was looking at the most recent 104:57 diagram from 104:58 16 to 19 and 105:02 i can only find one coded as an 105:05 ovi 105:08 you know operating the vehicle under an 105:10 influence 105:11 no other crashes were identified 105:15 here at this location for that 105:19 okay good and and like aaron had 105:22 mentioned uh 105:23 those are the ones that are actually 105:25 coded so when the 105:27 sheriff's department or highway patrol 105:29 actually enters the accident 105:31 data if they fail to code it then we 105:34 don't know 105:35 the driver was impaired but i think 105:37 aaron correct me if i'm wrong typically 105:39 that's 105:40 that's usually uh included on the 105:44 the accident reports isn't it yes 105:47 it's yes it's it's it's always coded if 105:50 it's you know found to 105:51 happen um they'll come back and add 105:53 supplemental information 105:55 as necessary 105:58 um i could look at you in your 106:02 previous to see what we have 106:08 right so so i guess in simple answer to 106:12 that 106:12 particular question is there was only 106:14 the one crash 106:15 reported ovi 106:18 now regarding the danger dangerous 106:20 intersection signage 106:24 um 106:26 yeah signage can help um 106:29 i think when you talk about these these 106:33 speed limits that are on 82 in the 106:35 geometrics of the roadway conditions out 106:38 there 106:38 and the two-way stop condition 106:42 um again that that that all pushes us 106:45 back to 106:46 how effective those roundabout 106:48 intersections are 106:49 for eliminating the crashes that are out 106:51 there so uh 106:54 additional signage may help uh 106:57 but based on the safety study and the 107:00 availability of funny 107:02 funding and and the need of this project 107:05 we we have the money now to fix it right 107:08 fix it permanently and so that's the way 107:11 the state would like to proceed with the 107:12 intersection 107:15 i don't know if anybody else has 107:16 anything to add on that 107:22 hey brian i guess as part of the 107:26 roundabout itself there will be sit 107:27 there will be 107:28 extra signage just indicating the 107:32 um you know the presence of a roundabout 107:35 and 107:35 yields in the direction so there will be 107:38 an 107:39 increase in signage through this 107:41 intersection 107:42 also the you know a sign doesn't 107:45 necessarily slow a person down 107:48 the actual geometry of the roundabout 107:50 will force people to be 107:52 at slower speeds um just than how it is 107:55 designed in 107:56 the geometric shape of it and so 108:00 part of the crash history is severity 108:02 and high speeds and the roundabout is 108:04 actually 108:05 physically slowing people down which 108:07 will have a reduction in the severity of 108:09 crashes 108:11 thank you mike but jackie did we miss 108:15 anything else on that one 108:17 i don't think so i think you got it all 108:22 um we we do have a few more comments 108:25 brian so 108:26 um i know we've gone over our a lot of 108:28 time i believe 108:29 weren't we scheduled to where we 108:31 scheduled to end at six or 108:32 do you want to keep going i guess i i i 108:35 would if 108:36 people are still out there let's keep 108:37 going if the feathers want to drop off 108:40 um that's fine i do appreciate 108:41 everybody's involvement 108:43 and help but yeah i'll keep going we try 108:46 to answer them all 108:47 okay no hands are raised but i do still 108:49 have a few more questions in the chat 108:51 pod so 108:52 what about the business on the southeast 108:55 la you're you are going to put them out 108:56 of business taking all the frontage away 108:58 not to mention the house on the 109:00 northwest corner 109:02 okay um i i guess the simple answer to 109:04 that is the the 109:06 frontage really won't be taken away uh 109:09 the roundabout intersection design 109:12 changes 109:14 there will be some loss of parking space 109:16 on the southeast 109:19 uh in the the north west 109:22 we do have the driveway relocation and i 109:24 i do believe that that was going to 109:26 affect that septic system but that is 109:29 all something 109:30 that we can take care of with the cost 109:32 to cure in the real estate process 109:35 so if there are damages to the septic 109:38 system or anything else 109:40 we're gonna the project will pay to 109:42 repair that or replace that 109:44 uh again with the parking in in the 109:46 southeast 109:47 um we're gonna have to take some right 109:50 away to improve the safety 109:52 uh if but we are also gonna compensate 109:55 that 109:56 that business owner for those impacts 110:00 frontage wise as far as visibility wise 110:02 the 110:03 that won't change very much you'll still 110:05 be able to see there won't be a 110:07 wall or anything else blocking the view 110:10 of that bar 110:13 so i mean we're do the best we can to 110:16 minimize impacts to 110:17 to the four corners of the the 110:19 interstate but we do recognize that 110:20 there are going to be some impacts 110:23 the real estate process is a negotiation 110:27 and and it's it's 110:28 fair and equitable process and and it 110:30 that's why it often takes 110:32 several months to complete uh it is a 110:35 negotiation with those property owners 110:37 so we will do everything we can with the 110:40 project design to continue to minimize 110:41 those impacts 110:43 and we are aware of those and and we've 110:46 actually met with most of the property 110:47 owners out there within the project 110:50 limits i miss anything on that one 110:53 or does anybody else have anything to 110:55 add 111:01 i think you did a good job brian 111:04 uh moving on to the next one the mantua 111:07 center road intersection at 82 111:09 is an extremely important historic 111:12 district 111:12 beloved by the entire community how can 111:15 eminent domain 111:16 be applied to acquiring public property 111:18 for a roundabout 111:19 i don't believe the community will be 111:21 receptive 111:23 good well that's one of the reasons that 111:26 we're still 111:27 looking at that particular intersection 111:29 and we have not come to a final 111:31 decision obviously uh 111:35 ultimately the intersection will be 111:39 improved 111:40 to improve safety but we are 111:43 trying every option available to 111:46 not take right away from that historic 111:48 district 111:50 odot recognizes the importance of that 111:52 that intersection in that area to the 111:54 local community 111:56 there are very specific guidelines and 111:59 requirements in place to protect 112:01 historic districts 112:02 in you know ohio and 112:05 across the united states so that's 112:08 something that we take very seriously 112:10 and we're going to follow the process 112:11 and if we can find a lesser solution 112:14 that avoids taking right away or avoids 112:17 adversely impacting that historic 112:19 district then that is what we will do 112:23 i'm so glad to hear you say that because 112:24 that addresses this next comment 112:26 listening to the conversation it's 112:28 apparent our government has already 112:29 decided 112:30 on the roundabout i believe this will be 112:32 a disaster and ridiculous waste of 112:33 taxpayers money but i'm not in charge 112:35 and i i believe you addressed that 112:37 beautifully in your response to the 112:38 previous question 112:40 so the next question is my other issue 112:42 is the roundabout is way 112:44 too small if you're going to go for it 112:47 do it right and i believe you 112:50 address that one as well yeah if i could 112:53 just add to that one too is the the 112:56 the size of the roundabout may seem 112:59 small but again that 113:00 that size is all part of the engineering 113:04 solution to the roundabout 113:06 we don't want the roundabout to be 113:07 larger one we don't want to impact those 113:10 properties 113:11 uh adjacent properties any more than we 113:13 have to 113:14 but every aspect of that roundabout 113:16 design has been engineered 113:18 and tested and and 113:22 evaluated over time this isn't the first 113:24 round about 113:25 you know and as we build these 113:27 roundabouts we get smarter 113:29 and we build them better and the size is 113:31 very important so 113:33 this the size that mike has got this 113:36 roundabout designed is 113:38 the size that we feel is most 113:40 appropriate uh 113:42 bigger isn't necessarily better in the 113:44 case of a roundabout 113:47 yeah we found out over the years the 113:49 smaller roundabouts will be safer 113:52 we want to keep vehicle speeds lower 113:55 the larger roundabouts vehicles will 113:56 tend to travel faster 113:58 and so we want to keep the speeds lower 114:00 and equal 114:02 or nearly equal on all the different 114:03 movements like to keep a uniform speed 114:06 throughout 114:07 and as brian alluded to you know we're 114:08 trying to minimize the impacts um 114:10 there's nothing on this roundabout here 114:12 that is you know it's all it's all being 114:14 designed to accommodate 114:16 the big uh semi-trailer trucks um so 114:20 we're taking the road user into account 114:22 here 114:24 it's all to accommodate all the users 114:30 okay we have a comment and support so uh 114:33 we think that the roundabout is a great 114:34 idea to keep traffic flowing and safer 114:36 people are currently using the country 114:38 in parking lot as a roundabout 114:42 that's that's back to the access 114:44 management that's important for safety 114:47 so the next question is i have heard 114:49 that these roundabouts may be proposed 114:51 for man to a center and 114:52 44 and 88 is that in the future 114:57 again as aaron and i both indicated 115:00 there 115:00 there's no current plan for any other 115:02 roundabouts on uh 115:05 in manaway or in portage county that 115:07 we're aware of now as 115:08 is we keep addressing problematic 115:11 intersections 115:12 you know hopefully when we uh we take an 115:14 intersection like this one and we've 115:16 put the roundabout in and it kind of 115:18 falls off the safety list 115:20 that makes room for another intersection 115:22 to come on to the safety list so we just 115:24 keep 115:25 trying to knock them out so in the 115:27 future there could be 115:28 some roundabouts but uh you know 115:32 obviously based on the the cost of a 115:34 roundabout intersection it's not 115:35 something that the 115:36 district takes lightly and we'll 115:39 certainly do our homework and do safety 115:40 studies and 115:42 cost-benefit analysis and preliminary 115:44 engineering and if we 115:46 determine we need some more roundabouts 115:48 then we'll certainly construct them but 115:50 as of right now there's no plans on the 115:52 books or uh 115:53 additional roundabouts 115:56 um okay next question will there be some 115:58 kind of training for people to learn how 116:00 to go through a roundabout 116:01 and when it opens will there be officers 116:03 to direct 116:04 and the training i believe is already 116:06 posted to our website 116:07 via there are videos correct and we'll 116:10 make sure that we uh 116:11 put some more links and things i think 116:13 there is the link on the website 116:15 for that video and we'll be sure to uh 116:20 put that in our comment response 116:22 information as well if people want to 116:24 see it there 116:25 as far as the operation or having an 116:29 officer out there to direct 116:30 traffic we do not typically do that 116:34 but the signage will be out there there 116:37 will be warning signage 116:38 that basically alerts drivers to a new 116:41 traffic pattern and asks them to slow 116:43 down 116:44 so there will be some initial warning 116:45 signage uh and 116:48 the operation of the roundabout is 116:51 this is the most simplistic roundabout 116:54 that 116:55 that we have with the single lane 116:58 so there are sometimes 117:02 a a learning curve and we have 117:04 experienced the some initial 117:06 uh accidents or crashes at new round 117:09 about locations 117:11 but typically the drivers pick up on it 117:14 very 117:14 quickly and those accidents 117:17 go away and we usually don't have any 117:22 problems 117:24 um this is a great question is there a 117:26 similar 117:27 roundabout in the area that people can 117:29 experience and get a better idea on how 117:31 well the design is working 117:34 uh yes the the best example 117:38 i can think of in portage county is that 117:41 oh it's a powder mill i can look that up 117:44 really quick 117:47 powder melon summit yes that is a 117:51 very similar situation the 117:54 uh average daily traffic or the the 117:56 traffic volumes at the powder mill and 117:58 summit 118:00 may not be as large as this one 118:03 but i will say that that intersection 118:06 has a 118:06 high peak hour traffic volume uh because 118:09 of the kent state 118:10 connection but is a very similar type 118:13 scenario with 118:14 the single lane roundabout and then just 118:17 uh to the west of there in kent 118:20 on summit street there is dual 118:23 roundabouts 118:24 and those are multi-lane roundabouts so 118:26 there's get a little more complex 118:28 but yeah that that summit and powder 118:30 bill uh 118:31 intersection is a great example in 118:33 portage county 118:34 and it's been very effective too 118:39 yeah and that one's a little smaller 118:41 than this one would be 118:42 on the ones in kent state on kent campus 118:46 west of powder mill i would be more 118:49 closer to the in 118:51 one in particular closer in size of 118:54 what we'll be looking at here for this 118:57 one 119:00 and that's that's a that's a great point 119:02 um you know as we build these 119:04 roundabouts 119:06 uh historically we built them smaller 119:08 and uh 119:09 you know through public comments and 119:11 through talking to 119:12 uh truck drivers and and everybody 119:14 that's using the roundabouts we have 119:16 learned 119:17 uh lessons on each one and every time we 119:20 build a roundabout 119:21 we improve the design 119:26 okay uh next question i think 119:30 i saw something about rumble strips on 119:32 the curve of 82 coming into the proposed 119:34 roundabout 119:35 i'm not sure if you've already spoken on 119:37 these or not i apologize if you have 119:39 although the speed limit is only 40 to 119:41 45 in these areas 119:42 uh people don't normally go those speeds 119:44 they will easily go 60 119:46 plus which worries me a bit secondly 119:49 i've been stuck behind huge tractors 119:52 and such on these roads i know a semi 119:54 can fit fine but can a tractor or will 119:56 they have to go around 119:58 yes the the the rumple strips are uh 120:02 proposed on the west leg 120:05 west of the intersection and they are 120:08 very effective 120:09 uh counter measures uh once you cross 120:11 over that center line or those edge 120:13 lines the 120:14 the drivers are alerted right away 120:16 they're they're very uh 120:17 very effective safety tool 120:21 um as far as the tractors and access 120:23 through the roundabout 120:24 yes the tractors larger equipment will 120:27 have no issue going through the 120:28 roundabout as 120:30 mike explained earlier the inner 120:33 apron or the truck apron within the 120:35 roundabout that is mountable 120:37 so while the cars can typically zoom or 120:40 nice and safe zoom they can drive 120:42 through the roundabout comfortably 120:44 on the pavement the inner apron is 120:46 designed to be mounted so it's it's a 120:49 softer curve 120:50 and the trucks can go right up over the 120:52 apron if they need to to 120:54 make the turn so larger equipment farm 120:56 equipment 120:57 it should not be an issue through the 120:59 roundabout 121:01 okay this isn't a question but a comment 121:03 as the person living right in front of 121:05 this 121:05 most accidents are young people um 121:09 and then we got another question um how 121:12 many of the crashes 121:12 occurred during bad weather could more 121:14 attention be 121:15 paid to local road conditions to prevent 121:17 these crashes which we've already 121:19 addressed 121:20 and then um i certainly hope you post 121:23 all the answers to the comments and 121:25 questions on your website 121:28 absolutely and um 121:31 i believe this is the last question i'll 121:33 look back through just to be sure but um 121:35 this one says for three million could we 121:36 build a bridge 121:39 a simple answer to that no we could not 121:42 build a bridge for three million 121:44 um grade separations are 121:47 extremely expensive uh you know it's not 121:50 is just as easy there are 121:53 horizontal and vertical curve 121:55 requirements and that becomes an 121:57 extremely large 121:59 bridge so not not necessarily a 122:01 cost-effective alternative for any 122:03 intersection 122:04 another comment that i had missed 122:06 previously i admit i hate roundabouts i 122:08 think we're better off with a standard 122:09 traffic light that operates at rush hour 122:11 morning 122:12 and evening and then goes to a flasher 122:13 on off times 122:15 um we've already addressed that 122:18 and i believe that is 122:22 everything there's no there are no hands 122:24 raised in the speaker queue 122:26 and we have made it through all of the 122:27 questions and comments at this point 122:32 is there anybody we can open it up does 122:36 anybody 122:36 want to talk or 122:40 ask us any questions 122:43 i'll unmute the participants so that 122:45 they can feel free to speak freely 122:53 any participants want to say anything 123:00 okay it also like i said the comment 123:03 period will 123:03 extend till november 2nd um 123:07 if you think of something later or you 123:09 want to email me or call me 123:11 or write a letter perfectly welcome 123:20 okay with that i believe that concludes 123:24 our public meeting um do you want to 123:26 give the contact information one more 123:27 time brian 123:30 yeah uh again it so 123:33 jackie just saw him clear so when this 123:35 meeting ceases obviously that 123:36 the chat and things will stop for this 123:38 so 123:40 what you'll have to do at that point in 123:41 time is you'll have to contact 123:43 me at brian peck at odot district 4. 123:46 that's 123:46 2088 south arlington road akron ohio 123:50 44306. 123:52 uh letters are fine emails are great you 123:55 can email me at 123:56 brian dot peck at dot.ohio.gov 124:00 and you can always give me a call 124:04 330-786-4931 124:05 again uh you know email with a 124:09 call follow-up is great because that way 124:12 we can 124:12 make sure we get everything documented 124:14 and addressed 124:15 uh but obviously you know if you want to 124:17 leave me a voicemail message or anything 124:18 that's fine 124:19 as well 124:27 thank you brian nice job thank you English (auto-generated)