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The Oneness / Trinity Conversation Deut 6:4 "Listen, hear and obey Yisra’el, is our God; is one." Sh'ma Yisra'el Yahuah Eloheinu Yahuah egad. Gerrie C Coetzee Seeing that this statement, made here as well as in other places, is the only direct and distinct statement about this particular topic in Scripture, I thought it fitting that it should be my point of departure, foundation and accepted truth and not what Theology or anything else has taught me. First a few thoughts to steer us in the right direction: 1. If we already have a pre-conceived doctrine about this, it becomes impossible to discover truth. Any one who truly seek truth, will test and investigate all possibilities to discover truth. 2. Today there are more people than ever that claim they believe in the first 5 books of the Bible (Torah) as the start of truth and that they form the foundation. Does Torah teach that God is a Trinity? 3. Is there a Trinity teaching in the Tanakh? 4. If a certain teaching is in the Bible, why would people add verses and words to proof that teaching? 5. Do the Messianic prophecies show the Anointed One as man or God? Did Yeshua then fullfilled these prophecies? 6. Could God have a God? 7. Is our definition of the word "God", correct as "something to be worshipped?" 8. Did Yeshua declare Himself to be God at any time? 9. If Yeshua is God and is sitting on the right hand of God, how many gods are there? 10. Why do people expect the Anointed One to be God as well? Where does it imply or teach that He must be God? 11. The command to Fathers to come out of false teachings is still valid. We will look at all these things and more. Pronounciation and meaning: (Whenever you see the Name in this writing): - doesn't matter how you think the nekkudot (Tetragrammaton) must be pronounced – it can not be translated as "I Am". That would be (ehyeh). The Tetragrammaton consists of the Name (cp. Ps. 68:5), together with the present incomplete participle of the verb hayah), that is, (hoveh). When combines with , the kamatz nikkud (/a/) is subject to ("the law) הָיָה of hatafering"), which is called "propretonic reduction" by English /Hebrew linguists; so the kamatz nikkud becomes a shva nikkud (/e/), which causes the pronounciation to be "Yeh-" rather than "Yah-". See that the one 'waw' falls away which makes the definitive "w" pronounciation into a "oe" easier. A possible pronounciation is therefor Ye –hu - ah and the meaning freely as "Yah is [the] existing One" or "Yah is [He] who is." History of the Trinity, Yeshua is God, teaching. The debate in theological circles about the trinity and the divinity of Yeshua only started in the fourth century. Therefor it was not an issue before then! There were no Trinity teaching in the first church and that is a well documented fact. In 322 aY, Constantine, Ceasar of Rome called a council together to decide on the divinity of Yeshua, because it was tearing his kingdom in two – thus not to find truth – and forced a decision in 325 aY. He forced compromise through a Greek word – homoousia – which means to be of the same substance. Eusebius of Nicomedia presented the initial proclamation that presented Yeshua as the Son of God, which was rejected and a changed resolution was signed. Biblical truth was replaced with pagan believes to work so called unity. Those who did not sign it were either banned or killed. Athanasius, who was a man of tyranny and violence, who took the position as bishop of Alexandria and killed people who differed from him, took the opportunity to enforce his teaching which was received from Plato. He had this extreme and unscriptural idea about Yeshua and defended it with "it is above human comprehension." Many argued with him but he established it more and more in the Roman Empire. (Christianity Through the Centuries, pp. 142- 143) 1 It is through many violence, fear and political powers that the Trinity doctrine became acceptable and orthodox. Plato's teaching: "The Platonists believed in an Unknown Father, a Word (Logos) and a world soul." Archana Srinivasan, Famous Greek Personalities, p. 30. The Roman Church acknowledges: ". one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification . when one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma “one God in three Persons” became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought." New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967 ed., Vol. XIV, p. 295. Jesuit scholar Edmund Fortman states: The Old Testament . tells us nothing explicitly or by necessary implication of a Triune God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is no evidence that any sacred writer even suspected the existence of a [Trinity] within the Godhead. Even to see in [the Old Testament] suggestions or foreshadowings or ‘veiled signs’ of the trinity of persons, is to go beyond the words and intent of the sacred writers. The New Testament writers . give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity . Nowhere do we find any Trinitarian doctrine of the three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead. By bringing the Trinity teaching into the church, satan shifted the emphasis to the Son and the work of the Holy Spirit and removed and forgot the Father. Now the church also moved away from its original form = obedient to Father's laws and standards with Yeshua as Model, Master and acknowledged Anointed One with His origin in Yisra'el. Please read: "When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity During the Last Days of Rome." I quote what Academics and Researchers say about the so called Trinity: Scholars: Zero Evidence in New Testament for the Trinity Being that it took 350 years after the Messiah to solidify the Trinity, the simple question is, why so long? If the Trinity is found and supported in the Bible, why did it require many centuries and numerous church schisms, arguments, debates, and even violence to legitimize and propagate this doctrine? Why wasn’t it authenticated from the very beginning, in the book of Acts, avoiding endless questions and wrangling over it? Where is the New Testament teaching of a triune being? The fact is the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Even the concept is missing. Clearly it was contrived in the imaginations of man. An exhaustive review of Scripture and history reveals the simple fact that the Trinity teaching was unknown to the early New Testament assembly, as supported by numerous authorities: • "Because the Trinity is such an important part of later Christian doctrine, it is striking that the term does not appear in the New Testament. Likewise, the developed concept of three coequal partners in the Godhead found in later creedal formulations cannot be clearly detected within the confines of the canon" (Oxford Companion to the Bible, 1993, p. 782). • "The Bible does not teach the doctrine of the Trinity. Neither the word ‘trinity’ itself nor such language as ‘one-in- three,’ ‘three-in-one,’ one ‘essence’ (or ‘substance’), and three ‘persons,’ is biblical language. The language of the doctrine is the language of the ancient church taken from classical Greek philosophy" (Christian Doctrine, Shirley Guthrie, Jr., 1994, pp. 76-77). It’s important to observe here that the author attributes the notion of the Trinity not to Scripture, but to influence from Greek philosophy. • "This is not itself a Biblical term, but was a term coined by Tertullian to refer to this whole concept under one word" (Classic Bible Dictionary, Jay P. Green, p. 483). Tertullian was a Christian author and apologist who lived from 160 CE to 225 CE. Before Tertullian the word trinity did not exist in Christian writing. • "Many doctrines are accepted by evangelicals as being clearly taught in the Scripture for which there are no proof texts. The doctrine of the Trinity furnishes the best example of this. It is fair to say that the Bible does not clearly teach the doctrine of the Trinity" (Basic Theology, Professor Charles Ryrie, 1999, p. 89). • "It is indeed true that the name ‘Trinity’ is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, John Lenker, Vol. 3, 1988, p. 406). Even though Martin Luther was an avid supporter of the Trinity, he correctly recognized that the doctrine was derived from man and not from the Bible. 2 • "The term ‘Trinity’ is not a biblical term…In point of fact, the doctrine of the Trinity is a purely revealed doctrine…As the doctrine of the Trinity is indiscoverable by reason, so it is incapable of proof from reason" (International Standard Bible Encyclopedia , vol. 5, p. 3012, "Trinity"). • "It is admitted by all who thoughtfully deal with this subject that the Scripture revelation here leads us into the presence of a deep mystery; and that all human attempts at expression are of necessity imperfect" (New Unger’s Bible Dictionary, 1988, p. 1308, "Trinity"). Should we rest our entire faith on a belief that is a "deep mystery?" • "Respecting the manner in which the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit make one God, the Scripture teaches nothing, since the subject is of such a nature as not to admit of its being explained to us" (Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, p.