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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Seventh Session (Ei2hth Lok Sabba)
(Y.I. XXI ctJ"tain, Nl'J. 1 ID 10)
LOI( SARHA SECRET ARJAT NEW DELHI Pr!e, / R.I. 6.00 [Original Englisb proceedings iDcluded in English Version and Original I-lind j proceediDl1 included in Hindi Version wil1 be treated as authoritative aod not the translation thereof.) CONTENTS
No.6, Tuelday, Novt'mbe, 11, i986/Kattlka 20, 1908 (SAKA)
COLUMNS
Oral Answers to Questions- 1-31
.Starred Questions Nos. 104, lOS, 108, 109, 11 J and 112
Written Answers to Questions : 31-285
Starred Questions Nos. 101, J02, 106, 107, 110, 113 to 120 31-39
Unstarred Questions Nos. 1033 to 1101. 1103, 1104, 1106 to 1147, 39-283 1149 to 1244, 1246 to 1253 and J255 to 1257
Papers Laid on the Table 285-289
Supplementary Demands for Grants (Genera)). 1986-87- 289 Statement presented
Public Accounts Committee- 289 Fifty .. eighth Report
Matters Under Rule 377- 291-299
(i) Demand for measures ~o protect the historical places of archaeological value and develop the birth places of late Pta MotilaJ Nehru, GaJib and Nazir in Agra as national memorials
Sbri Nib.1 Singh Jain 291
(ii) Demand for steps to eradicate poverty in the rural areas of tbe country
Shrl Uma Kaot Misbra 292
(iii) Demand for continuing scholarships to SC/ST students studying in higher classes and for raising the rates thereof
Shrl R.P. SumaD 293
• The SilO t marked above the name of a Member indicates that the qUOItiou wal actually asked on the floor or the House by that Member.
(I) eli)
(iv) Steps to protect sick jndustries jn Bihar Sbri C.P. Tbakur
(v) I)emand for preserving the ecoloaical balance in the Western Ghats
Shri RanJit Singh Gaekwad 295
(vi) Need to direct tbe Rajasthan Government to stop recovery of dues from tbe Indira Gandhi Canal Project Area
Shri Blrbsl 295
(vii) D(!mand for measures for rapid ind ustrialisatioD of Kerala
Shri K. Mobandas 296
(viii) Demand for a high-po Ncred Committee to study the economi~ crisis in tbe film industry and to advise for reduction of taxes and curbing of video piracy Sbri Sunil Dutt 297
(ix) Demand for measures to improve the conditions prevailing in Rancbi Mental Asylum Sbrt MObd. Mabfooz Ali Khan 298
~itizensbip (Anlendment) Bill, 1986-Contd. 299-316 Clauses 2 to 4 and Motion to pass Shri P. Chidambaram 300 Sbri Syed Sbababuddin 303 Sbri Indrajit Gupta 30S
Sbri Brajmoban Mohanty 309
)iscusslon on the Ethnic Problem of TamiUans in Sri Lanka- 317-385 Shri Bhattam Srirama Murty 317 Shr; Shyam La) Yadav 328 Sbri Suresh Kurup 335 Shri Sbarad Dighe 331 Sbri Syed Shahabuddin 3'9 Sbri P. Jeevarathinam 345 Prof. P.J. Kurien 348 Sbri P. Kolandaivelu .51 ~OLU"Na
Shri Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi 355 Shri Narayan Chou bey 359 Sbri P.R. Kumaramangalam 363 Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia 370 Dr.O.S. Rajbans 372 Shri Abdul Rashid Kabuli 37S Shri K. Natwar Sjngh 378
Delhi Fire Prevention and Fire Safety Bill, 1986- 385 -392 Motion to consider Shri Cbintamani Panigrahi 385 Sbri C. Sambu 388
Business Advisory Committee- 392 Twenty-ninth Report
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LOK SABHA DEBATES
LOK SABHA (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) (i) No, Sir. It is not correct to say that most of the systems remain out of order. How- ever, tbe service rendered by a few of the systems is not very satisfactory due to old Tlle.fda.)', November J 1, 1986/ Kartlka 20, and worn out exchange equipment. 1908 (Saka) (ii) In rural areas the telephone is affected adversJy due to frequent and pro- longed power failures. Thl' l.ok Sabha met at Eleven 01 the Clock. (b) and (c). Steps taken to improve the telephone services are given in the [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) statement below. All States are covered in the above programme. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Statement [Translation] The following steps have been talen Working of Telephone System in to improve the telephone service. Rural Areas 1. Introduction progressively of ·104. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER electronic telephone exchanges to JAINt : avoid problems ir.herent with SHRI MULLAPPALLY electromagnetic switching equip- RAMACHANDRAN: ment used hitherto.
Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 2. Replacement of life expired TIONS be pleased to state: equipment.
(a) whether the telephone system in 3. Special testing of exchange equip- most of the places in the country, particu- ment particularly jnter~exchange larly in rural areas, remains out of order junctions is being 'Jndertaken to due to old equipment and technical faults improve inter -exchange work iog. in telephone exchanges and dereliction of duty by officers and employees; 4. Working of air-conditioning plants in various exchanges is (b) if so, whether the Department being regularly monitored to ensure proposes to chalk out any programme to proper working. bring about substantial improvement in the system; and s. Laying of new junction, primary and secondary cables in ducts to (c) if so, the outlines thereof and the protect them from external States likely to be covered thereunder? damaaes.
[Eng/ish] 6. Pressurisdtion' of primary, secon- dary and JUDction cables to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE minimise cable break .. down fdlNISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS fl1Qlfs, j Oral Answers NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Oral Answers 4
7. Use of jel1y filled cables in the 18. Monitoring of the automanua) distribution network to prevent service and trunk service is beina entry of water in the cables to carried out so 8S to ensure avoid faults. prompt response on these services. 8. Cable trenches arc beina ftooded before being closed so to as 19. Public grievance cells have heen detect damage during trench- any opened at General Manager! of tbe cables. ing or laying The headquarters and Area Managers public is being asked to inform offices to provide single ouUet Telephone Department before tbey attention to the subscribers. take up digging on 'dial before dig' service so as to keep liasion with other agencies who are 20. Formation of Inter-utility engaged in digging. coordination Boards to avoid damage to cables. Extensive patrolling of cable 9. 21. routes to detect any digging Engine alternator sets and higher batteries are being provided operations and to take precau- size to overcome the problem due tionary measures to avoid damage to unstable power supplies. to cables. [ Translation] 10. Provision of bigh grade junction circuits on Pulse Code Modulation, SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Mr. Coaxial and microwave media to Speaker, Sir. it is clear even from the provide better quality and more reply just now given by the hon. Minister dependable service. that telecommunication system in tbe country, especially in the rural areas, is not Rebabf1itation of subscribers' It. functioning properly. It has been clearly fittings and the D.P. Boxes to stated in the reply that this situation has minimise faults on the line. arisen due to old and worn out exchange equipments. The strike by the Junior 12. Replacement of overhead wires by Engineers has also crippled this service. insulated drop wires to avoid If you happen to dial a telephone, pa t faults due to kite strings, bird comes the reply from the operator that nests etc. which lead to contact the line is out of order. We do not get or low insulation faults. even dial tone. The operators do not attend. Especially, when an information Use of improved telephone 13. is sought on 180, 181, 199 and 183. they instruments. are not able to give information as they have only the old directory with them. I 14. Replacement of aluminium wires would like to know from the hon. in the fittings at the subscribers Minister whether be is tak ing steps to set premises by copper wires to avoide these things right ? break faults. [English] IS. Computerisation of cable records and fault repair service to bring SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : Sir, down duration of faults. it is a fact that in rural areas, tbe tele- communication system performance is not 16. Computerisation of Directory very satisfactory mainly because most of the Assistance, (197) service and exchanges which have been installed th~re records. are very out-dated. Now, in this Seventh Five Year Plan, we are tryin8 to gradually 17. Computerisation operator assisted cbanae tbese exchanscs i .... to moderp n80) trunk eervlc,8o ones. S Oral Answers Oral Answ,rs 6
About tbe services which are rendered [1m",{atlon] by tbe manual operators, it is a fact that there are complaints and recently, tbe 'MR. 'SPEAKER: He bas .eted that Department has started a scbeme by which you, no doubt, have let the equipment. these operators are being trained and riaht.. but can you also set rilbt the per- wherever there is over-staffing, we are sons who man them? transfering tbem to those places where there is under-staffing. I hope tbat tbe [Englilh] situation will improve. But, as I said, gradually, we are trying to change to SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA. electronic type of exchanges and then CHANDRAN; I am extremely Ilad to efficicol!Y in rural areas will be improved. go through the len&tby answer given by the This is now being planned in a phased Minister. But whatever may be tbe policy manner. I hope, ufter the Seventh Plan, today, people at large are not happy about it will substant ially improve. tbe fUDcliooins of telecommunicatioDs in the country, especially in rural areas. This [ T"C1ns/ullon) poor performance is due to several factors: They are out .. dated as wen as worn-out SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Inachinery, lack of infra-structure 8S also Mr. Speaker. Sir, it has alrt!ady been lack of sufficient number of employees. To admitted that the situation in the rural areas a certain extent it is due to the indifferent is unsatisfactory, but telecommunication and callous attitude taken by certain service in cities, especially Delhi, is quite employees also. deplorable. I would like to know what steps thi! hOIl. Minister is going hl take In this connection, may I know from to iO'1tal im~')roved telephone equipment, the hon, Minister whether any strict el,~,;tl'unic telephone exchange and air con- measures are to be introduced by the ditioning plants? What st~ps are b"ing Ministry to ensure strict discipline a8 well taken to provide S.T.D. facilities at the as efficiency in the Departmen t whicb is distr let level 7 considered to be one of tbe Jargest public utility services in our country? [E,,/!lishJ SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : SHR( SON raSH MOHAN DEV : As About the satisfactory working of tbe , said. so far as t.he whole country is con- Telecommunication Department, I do agree cerned, the total number of exchanges is that is deserves more improvement; and about 11,600, and rural exchanges number I am fully in agreement wi th the bon. 10,800. The capacity now throughout the Member. Kerala has got the best network country is about 37 lakhs; and out of in the country in telecommunications. these 37 lakh~t in the 7th five-year Plan our aim is to instal 768,000 electronic As regards employees, our policy is one ex.changes, and also to improve the cross- of carrot and the cane. If they do good bar and strowger ~fficiency in rural areas, work, we pay them bonus. If tbey are at by providing generator sets as well as more fault. we take action. I do not agree powerful battery operations, so that in times that all the staff are bad. Some of them of failure of power, they can work properly. In are Dot working properly, and I ca.n assure city areas, in various cities specially Bombay you that our attitude is to impart ,discipline and Delhi, Mahanagar Telecommunication strictly and we shall adhere to that. But Corporations have taken charge from 1985. those who arc working well, should also They are floating Bonds to raise funds be encouraged, and I will not say that aU and gradually, they will be introduce electro- the workers are bad. Most of them are nic digital exchanges. In Calcutta and lood. There are some sections which are other places also, we are taking steps to not good. We sball try to mend tbem. I see that the situation improves. I request can as&ure you this much. hon. Members to bear with UI for some time more; and we sball improve tbe per- SHRI N. VBNKATA RATNA~f: It is formance. everybody's experience tbat a lot of mi.- ·, 1 Oral Answers NOVEMBER II, 1986 Oral Answers 8 chief is loinl OD in tbo mcterinl system. [Translation] Bverybody is feelioa it. I would like to ask tbe boo. Minister: is tbere aoy SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: possibility of arraDliol for a meter for MR. Speaker, Sir, it is true that remarkable each telephone. so tbat it caD be verified, progress has beea made in tbe field of because DOW we arc getting bills. We do telephones and modernisation and expan- not know how it is metered. Whatever is sion of other telecommunication systems. billed for. we have to pay. That is tbe Last year, tbe Telephone Department bad tr()uble under tbis scheme, which all tbe requested the Finance Department that telephone-owners are facing. Is tbere any since they were in need of technicians and poss)bility of arraoaing a separate meter operators, they be allowed to make recruit- for each telephone just as in electricity? ment to these cadres, because if the We will then verify and pay it. equipment was replaced and electronic excbanges were installed and if tbe Dumber of technicians and operating staff was not SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: It sufficient. the maintenance would suffer a is a suggestion for consideration. lot. Therefore. I would like to know from tbe bon. Minister the exent of demand [ Translalion] made for the recruitment of additional staff and tbe Dumber of personnel for which permission has been gi ven ? SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, tbere are 21 districts and [Engll,h] 38670 villages in Rajasthan. This area, with such a vast population, is quite SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DBV : backward from electricity point of view. I do not have tbe information now with I would. therefore, like to know tbe time me. I shall inform the hon. member, but by which telephone facility would be pr~vid this much we can say that now there are cd to tbese areas, especially Jbunjbunu bans on recruitment ••• and Sikar '1 SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: [English) I am gettina tbis reply for the last four years.
SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: In MR. SPEAKER: Don't you appre- Rajasthan. our )ine capacity is about ciate his consistency .1 91,173, and there are demands for more 20.000 and odd lines. In another question SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: of today 1 have already laid down the There is no question of appreciating it. number of telephone exchanges which are Last time I got an assurance that per- going to be established in Rajasthan and mission will be obtained from the Ministry they are quite a good number; and in of Finance. comparison to other States. Rajasthan has got a lion's share and 40 more telephone SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : We exc.hangcs arc going to be establisbed. are trying. You help us.
[Translation) MR. SPEAKER: We have a lion's sbare in drought. . SHRI V. Tl!LSIRAM: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would hko to bring one tbina to SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: tbe notice of tbe bon. Minister about You bave lot a special interest for telephones. Just two days back. I dialled Rajasthan. a number and a female voice was heard from the other end who abused me. I had RAO BIRENDRA SINGH: Are you to suffer tbis iodianity because of wrODS sa fisHed '1 number. J did not dial her telephone number deUberateJy. He is talking of effecting improvements in tbe telephone MR. SPEAKER : Not yet. service in the rural areal but I am Darratiq KARTlKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 this incident which happened in Delhi and restrictions in 1965, no further d.ata were that too involving an M.P. ? exchanaed with outside agencle.. A 150 no further collaborations were entered into by MR. SPEAKER: You are fortunate, Survey of India in this field. Mr. professor, to be abused by a lady. SURI V. TULSIRAM: He is talking The practice adopted by uSSa/USA of imrovement; Prime Minister's letter has in the matter is not known. taken 25 days to reach Shaotilliketan; is this the improvement he is talking SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Mr. about? Speaker, Sir, the statement which bas been laid on tbe Table of the bouse gives DO [E"Klish) specific reply to the question raised-It THE MINISTER OF COMlvlUNI" borders on vagueness. There are three CATIONS (SHR} ARJUN SINGH): If agencies involved and the question names you have got this abuse only because of only two. Apart from the ONGC and the the tel\!phone. 1 deeply apologise for it, but Survey of India. there is a third agency for if it i.-l due to some other reasons. I cauDot collecting this information and tbat is tbe help it. National Institute of Geo-physics; and it is not even mentioned in the reply. So, I Sharing or Gravity Data would like to have first a categorical affirmation or negation from the hone .105. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDD1Nt: ~linister whether these three agencies tbat PROF. RAM KRISHNA MOREt: is to say ONGC, the Survey of India and tbe National Institute of Geo-physics have Will the Minister of PETROLEUM no collaboration arrangenlent witb any AND NATURAL G AS be pleased to foreign agencies in this field of collecting state: seismic information.
(a) whether the on and Natural Gas SHR} BRAHMA DUTT: The question Commission and Survey of India have been was asked about ONGC and tbe Survey of conecting and sharing sensitive gravity India. Of course, there is a third agency, data relating to the Himalayas, having and in short, I would like to elaborate military importance, under an international the position. The ONGC bas been conduct- collaboration; ing gravity surveys all over India for oil exploration. The only gravity measure- (b) whether this kind of data is not ments made in the Himalayas by ONGC published and is kept secret by other were from 1968 to 1973 and the gravity countries like USA and Soviet Union; and data pertaining to the Himalayan region collected by the ONGC bas not been handed (c) if so, the reasons for sharing such over to any agency in India or abroad. That a sensitive Himalayan gravity data having was the position then. Now. comins to potential military use? NGRI, prior to 1974, ONGC did band over to the National Geophysical Research THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Institute, Hyderabad. the gravity data MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND acquired by it over various sedimentary NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA basins of India excluding the Himalayan DUTI): (a) to (c). A statement is given region for oil exploration for the purpose of below. compiling and preparing a composite anomaly map or India aod like ONGC the Statement Survey of India also banded over their own data to NGRI for the above purpose, and (a) to (c). Tbe ONGC have not tbe result was that an anomaly map was shared gravity data relating to Himalayas published by NGRI. But it is so mucb under any international collaboration. smoothened and is on such a scale that it cannot be used for any strategic purpo~. Such data was published by the Survey of India in 1956 when there were no res- The Survey of India in collf.ibor.1( itlll trictions. With tbe introduction of with tbe University of WiscoDsin and Hawaii bral An.fwers 1:l
Institute of Oeo"Pbysics Univel'lity of That was ""ior to 1955 aod Hawaii, bad carried out gravimetric after that nothiOl has been done, DO observations at a number of points. Tbat collaboration has been entered into. was done under our international commit- ment to the International Union of Geodesy, SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Mr. i e. for locating mineral resources, study;ng Speaker. the International Union of Geodesy, the shape of the ea'rth and Oeo-Physics and tbat data is shared with all other countries also for calibration of gravimeters and in the world ... (Interruptions) standardisation of gravity data in India. MR. SPEAKER: Shri SOGC Ramaiah. A te~bnical paper based on this was Yes, Mr. Mohanty, do you want to ask a published in 1955. But in 1965 restrictions question? were imposed on sharing this data with any- body and 011 publications also. No further SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : data were exchanged with outside agencies Whether the h(ln. Minister has the since' then. In addition, no further information, as to how many foreign collaborations were made by the Survey of collaborators are working in ONGC and India in this field after that. Survey of India and elsewhere, and whether they have access to this type of data or not.
SHRJ SYED SHAHABUDDIN : ) am (lnt~,rUpl;i.lns) stiJI not clear in my mind. I want a ~pedfic answel·. One part is clear. No data have I think I have not been answered. been shared after 1935. although it is admitted that between 1955 and 1974 there SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: The hon. was joint collection of this data. So, these Member wanted to know the number of data at lcast collected by one agency were foreigners working in ONGC and SUPiCY of automatically available to the collaborating India. That information has to be collected. partner.. the two institutions mentioned by But we take care that nothing important is tbe hon. Minister. So, I want to know accessible to them. specifically, as of today whether there is any collaboration arrangement by any of these SHRI BRAJAMOBAN MOHANTY : three agencies in this specific fi~ld and I also Sir, I wanted to know as to how many like to know which are tbe agencies, apart foreign collaborators ... from the two that you have mentioned with which the data was shared and exchanged MR. SPEAKER: He has not got the with the outside agencies, if any other than information. He will provide you. these two that you have mentioned already, with w.hich the data was shared prior to 1955, or 1974, as thc case may be ? [TrQlIJ I atlon)
SHRI BRAHMA DUTT : I have Outstan(Jing Sugarcane dues (rom Sugar submitted about ONGC, about the Survey Mills in Uttar Pradesh of India. about N'iRI. At present there is no collaboration and there is no sharing. .)08. SHRI RAM NAG INA MISHRA : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Arc SUPPLIES be pleased to state : there certain other outside agencies tbat you have not mentioned, with which you have (a) the amount of the sugarcane dues shared the data before the cut off date? pertaining to the last year outstanding Which ate those agencies 'i against the sugar mil1s in Uttar Pradesh and arrangements made for its payment; and SHRI BRAHM A DUTT I have already submitted ahout NORI and the (b) whether it is a fact that some of the StH"'~V' of India that they had an inter· mills are running in heavy loss and it is natIonal commitment with the International proposed to cJose them and if so, the names Union of Geodesy. That was shared. thereof? .,3 Oral A''nswers KARTIICA 20. 1:901 (SAKA) Oral An.rwers 14
[Englllh] I wanted to know sector-wise break-up of tbe dues, e.g. the private sector, pubHc THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sector and Sugar Corporation etc.. which be MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL has not indicated? SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZ~D): (a) For tbe 1985 .. 86 sUlar season, as on Besides. how much tbe sugar mill!l owe 30th September, 1986, tbe sugar factories in to the banks and to the Central Govern- Uttar Pradesh had paid about Rs. 401 ment ? This too has not b~en replied to ? crores out of the total cane price of Rs. 405 crores payable for the season. Jeaving a MR. SPEAKER: You put the question. balance of about Rs. 4 crotts. The responsibility for having tbe price cleared SHRI RAM NAG INA MISHRA: 1 lies with the State Governments who have want to know how much dues are outstand .. the necessary powers and field organizations ina aaninst the private sector, tho to enforce the Rame. The Central Govern- Cooperative sector and the Sugar ment on its part has been taking 8teps aimed Corporation? What steps the Central at improving the liquidity of the sugar Government are taking to ensure that the industry to enable them to make timely sugar mills do not face such a situation in payments. As a result of the Governmental future? I want separate an~wers to these efforts, the arreslrs during tho last season points. have been the minimum. SHRI GHULAM NAB) AZAD: Hon. (b) The Centra) G,overnment do not Speaker, Sir, I do not have separate figures, mainta in the profit and loss accounts in but as I said earlier. this is for the first time respect of sugar mills which are mainly i,n after 4 or 5 years or rather after a loog private or cooperative sectors. The time that the arrears are so low. ) would profitahiHty of a sugar factory depends on a say that this comes to only 1 per cent as variety of factors such as cane avaHabUity, compared to 3.4 per cent last year. Pri0r technical and managerial competence etc. to thatt it was 7.4 per cent and before that The Centnl Oovernment have no proposals in 1982-83. it was 16.3 per cent. )0 1982, at present to clo~e down any sugar factory. the arrears amounted to Rs. 70 crores, but tbis year the arreau have faUen froU! 70 rr, Qns/at ion] crores to Rs. 4 crores. So far as the 1\1R. SPEA KER : First you tell me who number of factories against which arrears is sweet amongst you? Have you called him are outstanding is concerned, there are only back or h\! has come back on his own ? 32 mills out of ) 00 in Uttar Pradesh aga inst which arrears are due and out of these 32. SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHR.A : Mr. 10 mill are such against which more than Speaker, Sir, I solicit your cooperatjon. 10 Jakhs are due. So far as the sector-wif,e This is a matter ("oncerning sugar; it is a figures are concerned. I shall send these sweet subject. Everybody drinks sUlar. figures to tbe hon. Member later on.
AN HON. MEMBER: They eat sugar SARI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Mr. and not drink it. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister might he aware tbat tbe Central Government was SHRI R~M NAGINA MISHRA: The running five mills in Uttar Pradesh. Why peop1e make its syrup and drink it. The the Government are not funning the~e mills hon. Minister has evaded answer to the now? I would like to know from the hon. question that I bad asked. He bas not Minister as to how much arrears were due replied to it properly. The only reply to the farmers as cane price from these five given by him i, tbat Rs. 4 crores are mills at :he time when the Central Govern- outstanding as dues.. What J wanted to ment bad taken over thtir management and 8~k was how much of these 4 crore rupees what wa~ the corresponding figure of lhe~e which is outstanding a~aiDst the sugar mills arrears when they left therr muoagement? as sugarcane price was outstanding against Besides, sugar mills of Deoria and Beta'pUf tbe Government and which mill had the were being run by the Central Government, bi,hest dqcs outst'_odin, a,.inst Hs name. but flOW tlle)' have abandoned these mills. 15 Oral Answ,rs NOVEMBER. 11, 1986 Oral Answers 16
I would like to know bow much arrears arc and whether these mills actually affected outstandins against these mills aod what modernisation or not ? steps tbe Central Government propose to take in future to run Deoria and Betalpur MR. SPEAKER : Had they effected lugar mills which were abandoned by tbem modernisation, why would there have been earlier? losses 1
SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: Mr. Speaker. SHRI H.K.L. BHAOAT : I do not have Sir, the Central Government had taken over information right now as to how many those mills because their owners did not of them got money from the Central want to run tbem. When the mill-owners Government and whether they effected did not run them, they suffered heavy losses. modernisation or Dot. I do not have the figures of tbese losses right now. If the hon. Member wants to (Interruptions) have them. I shall send tbose figures to him According to my personal view. the Jater on. We have also discussed tbis Sugar Development Fund, which is with the matter with the State Government and told Government, is not beiDg fully utilized. It them to run these mills if they want, because is our endeavour to see that this fund is we want that there should be no difficulty fully utilized to effect modernisa tion. There to the cane suppliers. At one stage. but has been some delay in framing rule~, but State Government agreed to run them, but now the rules have been framed, We want now, we are considering to run some of that it should be implemented on a time- these mills. When they refused to run the bound scale. In case the hone Member has mills, the Central Government had to run any information about any mill to the effect tbem and these mills suffered heavy losses that they have not utilized the money fully. because their machinery and other equip .. we shaH order a thorough inquiry into it. ments were old and obsolete. SHRI RAM PYARE ~ANIKA : Mr. SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Mr, Speaker, Sir, the bon. Minister has stated in Speaker, Sir, my question has not been his reply that the arrears outstanding against replied to fully ... (Interruptions) ... the sugar mills in U.P. amount to Rs. 4 crores, but at the same time he has also said SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: So far as the that the arrears do not exceed Rs. JO lakhs question (1f these 5 mills is concerned, we individually. I would like to cite a specific are thinking what to do about them. First, example in this regard. Sbahgauj Sugar we thought of re-structuring them and we Factory in Jaunpur district which was under have also asked the State Government to the private sector was closed down two years run them but- ago. This rom owes Rs. 2 crOfes to the farmers and Rs. 1.S crores to the workers. (Englilh] He has not given this information. There- fore, I would like to know from the hon. -tbis is a long-term process, so I can- Minister whether he would make an arrange- not say an)ithing. ment ~o that the arrears due to the farmers and workers are paid to them by this parti .. [Tranl/ati on] cular factory? This is a very serious matter. We are oot able to face the public in We are also thinking in terms of framing Jaunpur. Will the hon. Minister take steps a long-term sugar policy. We want that to get these dues paid and help in running tbe new sugar mills should also be set up this lniH ? and the number of sugar mills should be SARI H.K.L. BHAGAT: My colleaaue increased. has said that ten factories are such which owe more than Rs. 10 lakhs as arrears. It SHRI MANOJ PANDEY: Mr. Speaker, mean~, what is being said may be true ... Sjr, I would like to know from the hon. Minister the number of mills in U.P. and MR. SPEAKER : He had give", tbe Bih.lr which received funds from the Central figure of four crore~. Even as it is it Governmont in t~c tl~~e of modernisatioq RSt 4 amounts to , 3 or.. crOfC3,' 17 Oral Answers KARTIKA 20, J908 (SAKA) Oral Answ6rs 18
SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: As regards price? Win the Government come out the efforts made to get the arrears paid, I with that for the cane growers keepina in have myself written twice to the Chief view the cost of cultivation ? Ministers. The Secretary has also written that the arrears should be paid. SHRI H,.K.L. BHAOAT : The bon. Member is aware that the minimum (Englj.lh] statutory sugar cane price is fixed as some kind of a support price so that if there is SHRl S.M. OURADDI : Is it not a a lot of sugar cane they may at Jeast set fact that these mills are running in a heavy that. The price is determined by Central loss because or the bad policy of the Government in consultation and on the Government to import sugar from other advice of the Agricultural Costs and price countries? Commission which also takes into consideration various factors. As the bon. SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT : This is not Member is aware, In his State aDd also in a fact. With due respect I want to tell other States the actual price on which suaar you, in framing lhe sugar policy in the cane is sold is on the advice or the State country the Government has to balance a Governments. The State Governments number of interests One is the ioterest of advise tbe sugar mills to purchase sugar the sugarcane growers so that they get cane at a particular price. But actuaJly adequate price, otherwise they would not tbey have been getting much more price grow it. So in reply to your question we than tbe minimum price which is fixed. have to say 'no'. Minimum price is only the support price so that if there is lot of sugar cane, the farmers do not suffer. Secondly, we have to lee the interest of the consumer so that be gets sugar at a reasonable price. Thirdly we have to see [Translation1 that the'mills are economically vhible. We had to import sugar which we are SeUing up or Uitra "'gb Frequency progressively reducing. We seH sufficient Centre at Pithoragarh quantity and impert as much less sugar as possible. We are considering all these ·109. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will things in the new Sugar' Policy in the the Minister of COMMUNICATION be Seventh Five Year Plan. pleased to state :
SHRJ S.M. GURADDI : When win (a) whether the site for the Ultra High the new Sugar Policy come? Will it come Frequency (U.n.F.) centre proposed to be after the season? set up at Pithoragarh has been seJected;
SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: So far as the (b) if so, whether construction work sugar cane minimum price for 1987 .. 88 is of this centre bas since been starfed; and concerned, we shaH announce it very soon. We are doing this exercise. I think, (c) if not, the reasons for delay and tbe perhaps, in a few days it will be known. amount proposed to be spent on the construction work of tbis centre during tbe SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA current financial year and the time by which RAO: The minimum statutory cane price it is likely to be completed? is not at all remunerative and realistic and the several State Governments are announc- [English] iog. statutory price. The Government of India bas increased levy sugar price to a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE great extent. Will the Government come MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS out with a rational policy to pay the cane (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) growers a remunerative price at least now Yes, Sir. because in some States tbe growers are "oin8 to tQ.14e ~8ltatiOQ to ,el rem"DOr~t'vo 19 0",1 Answers NOVEMBER. 11, 1986 Oral Answers 20
(0) There was a plan to construct a take special care so that be 8ets tbo facilities combined Telecom. DuiJdinl for TcJepbollC there. Exchaop aDd U1tra Higb Frequency Station at tbis site. Due to financial [Trans I at/on] constraints and economy measuaes adopted by Government of India. it was decided to SHRI HARISH RAWAT : The hone postpone the construction work of this Minjst~r has replied very politely and. centre at the above site and go in for therefore, it appears tbat I shall have to rented accommodation. No expenditure is wait for this S.T .0. facility for aoother 4 thus expected to be incurred on the or S years. construction work during the financial year. MR. SPEAKER: He has given a sugar· coated pill. However, the telephone exchange and UH P link win be commissioned by March, SHRI HARISH RAWAT : I would 1988, using rented accommodation. like to mention that in the matter of telecommunications, Uttar Pradesh is very [Trans lat I on] backward as compared to all the other States and it will take a long time for the SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Mr. Speaker, State come with tbe other States. Sir. I have been asking this question from to at par In such a situation, will the bon. Minister tbe Ministry for tbe last four years .•• state the number of districts in U.P. which (lnte rrupt ions) are not yet linked with the State Capital. [English} Lucknow, through U.H.F. and microwave link and the steps proposed to be taken to SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: God connect these districts with the State willing, he has three more years to ask the capital through U.H.F. and micro .. wave question. link?
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SHRI HARISH RAW AT: I want 10 SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Sir, congratulate the Telecommunications there are 57 district headquarters in U.P. Department that they have been consistant State and till date .30 district headquarters in their reply during the last four years have already been covered. The work on irrespective of the fact that the Ministers the remain,ng 27 district headquarters is in have been changi'og. But this time I am various stages and I assure tbat within the greatful to the hon. Minister-he is quite Seventh Five-Year Plan, all the district an efficient person-that at least he has headquarters of Uttar Pradesh numbring changed the date of commissioning. I 57 wil1 be connected with the State Capitals. would like to know from the hone Minister This is an aStlurance. the time by which S.T.D. facility to Delhi and Lucknow would be provided from PROF. P.J. KURIEN : Sir, it has UHF, Pithoraprh after it is commis- been tbe pronounced policy of tbis sioned ? Government that STD facilities sbould be given in all the districts. I would like to [Engll,h] know bow maoy district headquarters in tbis country are still without STD facilities. SHR) SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : Sir. In my district which is Patbanamthitta, I fully appreciate tbe feeling of the hon. tbere is no sro faci1it~'t tbere is a micro- Member. It is a )oDsstanding demand and wave tower, but STD facility is not as I said, it is going to be installed by there. I would like to know from the March 1988. if not earlier. hon. Minister that bow many district headquarters are yet to be prov;ded with As regard. the demand for STD STD facilities and witbin wbat time these facilities, I will discuss with tbe han. district headquarters win be provided with Member and l can "'UfO him tlt.~ • will tbese f"~i1itieat inchtdin, my dl.trict. 21 Orat Answers KAaTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22
SHill SONTOSH MOHAN DBV : telephones are Dot workiDI properly and the About the specific district. I will Dot be excba'oaes arc not working properly. able to lay right DOW .. but he is very much Merely in traDsferring 00" small operator rigbt tbat wberever there are electronic from one place to anotber, there is DO eXcb'lDleS we are trying to cover with STD difference. I am myself is a victim of this facilities and in the Seventh Five-Year Plan Don-functioning. I am from tbe rural we are tryiog to cover almost aU the areas. area and I never 80t a call matured, eyeD About your particular request, I sball the 1iahtninl call, from Delhi to my write back to you, I do not have the residence. information rigbt DOW. Because of the fact that rural exchaDSes PROF. P.l. KURtEN Micro-wave are not workiDg properly, may I know tbat tower is already there. before you produce so many more exchanges, would you kindly ensure tbat tbe (Interruptions) auto exchanges are fllDctionin8 properly ? THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA· TIONS (SHRJ A RJUN SINGH) : No SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Sir. in our country, 70% of tbe population is problem. we will connect it. living in rural areas and we tryiDg to give more exchanges in rural areas. As a matter of fact, our policy is to iottoduce IO-Une automatic exchaoges. Now. we are givins SI:IRI SHAMINDER SINGH: I would only 25 Iin~8 and we are Dot giving any like to know from the hone Minister manual exchange where the lines are Jess wbether he has fixed some criterion under than 100. which manually operated exchanges in small towns could be converted into automatic c:xcbanges wben the number of telephone As, regards the functioning, as I said. connections in such a town reaches say more automatic exchanges will be given witla facilities aDd 1,000 or 1,500? Has he fixed such a modern the trouble that you criterion? are facing now will be overcome by tbe end of the 7tb Five Year Plan. MR. SPEAKER: Have you fixed any criteria tbat after 1,000 or 1,500 telephone Private Sector Participation In Power connections, manuals would be converted Generation into automatic ones? *111. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN t : PROF. K.V. THOMAS: [English] Minister SHRI SONl'OSH MOHAN DEV: Sir. Will the of ENERGY be in the main answer of the question, I have pleased to state : said that. in the Seventh Five Year Plan, we propose to have 11 lakb telephone connnec- (a) whether Government have any tions. And the process which is being proposal to set up additional capacity to involved is, for the oldest telephone generate 3000 MW power in the private exchange, the earlieCit is the replacement. sector during the Seventh Five Year If in tbis category, some of the exchanges Plan; of your State come, we shan take care of them. (b) whether the private participation proposed to be permitted to lucb an txtent MR. SPBA KER. : Sometimes age also is in accordance with tbe Industrial PoJiey belps ! Resolution of 19S6; and
SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Mr. (c) if Dot. the reaSODS for allowio. this Speaker, Sir, just like TV. the Communjca- departure from tbe approved policy? tion Department is producing 10 many small auto excbanges with 10 or 12 telephone THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lUE liDes. But it is a fact that aUi tbOIO DEPARTMENT OF POWER. IN THE , , " ~,; \ .' . 23 Oral Answers NOVSMBER. 11. 1986 Oral Answers 24
MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI constraints stand in tbe way and it is SUSHILA ROHTAOI) : Ca> to (c). The because of tbis tbat we have referred to policy with reserd to tbe generation and tbe Industrial PoJicy ResouJtioD and every distribution of electricity continues to be thing falls within the framework and under regulated by the Industrial Policy Resolu- the Policy as it stands today. Only we tion' of 1956. 'The expansion of existiog have clarified regarding tbe capadve plant so privately-owned utilities or the establish- that tbough it falls within tbe 25 MW. it ment of new units in tbe private sector is can be taken up immediately by the State not precluded under the Resolution. The Electricity Board. Above 25, MW has additional generating capacity which may to be cleared by the CEA. Otherwise, I be set up in the private sector in the think. tbe hone Member agrees wifh me that Seventb Plan will depend on the suitability the Policy has not been modified and we or tbe proposals. have tried to expand and replace those as we have stated in tbe Resolution, in two or SURf HARIHAR SOREN : Sir, the bon. three utilities. Minister bas Dot replied specifically to (a) part of my Question, i.e. whetber Govern- Only in new one, in Bombay subarban, ment has any proposal to set up addJ tional we havo allowed in principle the generation capacity to generate 3,000 M. W. power in of 500 MW subject to various conditions. tbe private sector during tbe 7th Five Year But that is the only exception. Plan. However, tbe Minister bas stated in hu reply tbat tbe Government policy SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: It is under- continues to be regulated by the Industrial stood tbat there are two proposals in the Policy Resolution of ) 956. public sector undertakings in the State of Orissa, tbe construction of Ib Valley As you know, tbere is acute shortage Power Project and the expansion of Talcbcr of power in the whole of the couotry, Thermal Power Station. May 1 know what specially in the State of Orissa. In view is the allotment of fUDds for tbose two of the shortage of electricity in tbe projects? country, whether Government bave aoy proposal to allow projects being set up in SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: tbe private sector? If not, what is tbe This Question is about private sector proposal to meet the power requirements participation in power aeDeration. of the country. particularly in the tbe State of Orissa in tbe 7th Five Year Plan? I need notice for this particular question.
SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : According SHRIMATJ SUSHILA ROHTAGI : Sir, press would like the may I start with tbe Jast one regarding to reports-which I hone Minister citner to confirm or deny or Orissa first 1 In Orissa, there is a proposal correct-sanction has been given for tbe and it is in the nature of a large size erection Thermal Power Station captive power pJant from TorsteeJ of a in MIs. Bholpur to one of tbe large industrial Researcb Foundation for 3 X 120 M. W. bouses. It is said in tbe press report-I This is under eKamination. The proposal am sorry I could not bring that newspaper of tbe Foundation which is goin& to be a cutting with me today-that it is in joint sector captive unit was cleared by tbe collaboration with some Japanese firm. CBA in January, 1986 subject to the con- there is firmation of coal link.age, environmental I would like to know whether any truth in this report and if so, could the hone clearance and otber requirements to be Minister kindly give us some more details. fulfilled. Tbese requirements are still to be met. This is witb reaard to Orissa. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI I do not have tbe press report just DOW here. I do agree with the hone Member tbat I neitber confirm nor deny. Tba t is there is great shortage in the country in the can tbe position at present. power sector and in spite of aU our efforts, we will be able and we hope to expand SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: She may during the Seventh Five Year Plan, not b4 able to confirm or dony tbe details. 22,245 MW 01 electricit)' ooly. Financial Tbe "inister must koow whether c;;learaDQe 25 Oral A.nswers K.AR. rtK.A 20. 1908 (SAKA) Oral Ans)Hrs 26 for leneratioD of power is liven for private publicly stated that Public Sector ia not in party. the national interest. He bal written a series of articles on tbat. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: She said it bas not been given. SHRI VASANT SA THB : I beg to submit that I have Dot said so. This is MR. SPEAKER: Are you taking about total distortion of facts. You havo not press report or from your knowledge? even read those articles. (lnterruption~ ) SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I have to depend on press reports. MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. SBRI VASANT SATHE: May I say (Interruptions) tbat no such clearance bas )let been given? MR. SPEAKER: This is not allowed. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: In that case, why is she following non-alignment {Interruption,)· policy? MR. SPEAKER: Without my SHRI lNDRAJIT GUPTA Is there permission, nothing goes on record. such a proposal? (Interruptions)· SHRI VASANT SATHE: I had said MR. Mr. will you it before and I want to reiterate that there SPEAKER : Panika, is going to be a gap of about 10.000 MW take your seat? I have allowed only Mr. in the Sl:venth Five Year plan itself. Now, Rath. keeping in mind the present Industrial SHRI SOMNATH RATH: As far as policy Resolution, if additionality to Seventh Orissa is concerned, wo are only hearin. Five Year pJan allocation which is above five words-that is : 'in principle', 'in Rs. 35,000 crores will help us to generate policy', 'as far as" 'the infrastructure is and instal 22,000 MW of capacity, and if concerned', 'there is enough scope for to make up this gap we get proposals from 8eneration of ele~tricity in Orissa' and private parties within the country or the last word is : 'on account of financial bilaterally that would help us to generate constraints it is under consideration'. I power, and if it is in tbe national interest, want to know from the hone Minister-be we would consider such proposal on merit. has just now stated that in the national That is the only way we can meet this gap. interest, tbere infrastructure and Otherwise, we will not be able to meet this where is possibility ()f generating e1ectricity steps will gar. The only criterion;s fnational in .. taken. want to know whether immediate terest'. National Interest will be the supreme be I criterion. steps &hould be taken to start construction at least one project and complete it ? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: According to him, Public Sector is not in the national SHRI VASANT SATHE: As far as interest. Orissa is concerned .•• (/nte'ruption~ ) SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I want SHRI V ASANT SA T HE: I t is in the to raise one important point ..• national interest.
(ltller,upllon~ ) MR. SPEAKER: There are so many bon. Members who are always ready .•• MR. SPEAKER: Why are you replying to (Interruptions) the que~ition which bas not been put ? MR. SPEAKER: Nothing doing. There SHRI INDRAnT GUPTA: He has is no bard and fast rule •.. ·Not recorded. 17 Oral Answers NOVSMBEIt II, 1916 Oral Answers 28
SHRI VASANT SATHE: As far as (Engll.h1 Orissa is concerned. we have good deposits of coal in Talcher and lb. There are pro- SHRI THAl\iPAN THOMAS: I want posals ready for posing financial assistance to raise a very important point. The hOD. in both Ib and Talcher-from the State Minister told us in the last Session in this Government as well as from Central House that they were having short·term Government. As soon as we are able to and long.-term policies for making find resources, these p,rojects will be taken power available. tbat he is inviting black- up. money holders; to invest in power genera- tion and tbat he would see that power is SHRI SOMNATH RATH : How soon 1 given to the industry. Has Government made any assessment about. closure of SHRI V ASANT SATHE: As soon as factories on acc'ount of power shortage. resources are available. bow many factories are closed today ? And what are tbe remedial measures taken SHRl SOMNATH RATH: That is to have them reopened? I would also vague. like to point out tbat in the aluminium industry, power is one of the main things. (lnterruptioIlS) The Indian Aluminium Company in my State is closed on account of power shortage. SHRI VASANT SATHE: I am trying Have you got any programme to supply to find resources from everywhere. power on a short-term basis to the jnl~t.lS (Interruptions) trie& and factories which are closed today?
[Translatlun] SHRI VASANT SATHE: 1 know there are industries like aluminium industry whicb SHRt DAMODAR PANDEY: Mr. arc, what is called, power-guzzlers; power is Speaker, Sir, I would like to know frnm the the main raw materia1 for aluminium. Our policy, therefore, is to allow such industries hone Minister whether the ~ap of 10,000 to bave captive powe.r plants either indivi- MW left in the Seventh Five Year Plan will not affect the eastern parts of tbe country dually or even collectively. This is our the most, especially Bihar, Orissa and present policy. Bu t they must generate Bengal which are already highly deficit in resources to set up captive power plants. This is the essence of the whole thing. the rnutter of e'e~t .. icity 1 Does he propose to set up super thermal power stations to SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO: The hon. remove shortage of in the areas electricity Minister has just now mentioned in his reply where infrastructure as well as cheap coal that there are vast quantities of good coal is available? such power stations be Will available in 18 and Talchar. But both these set up at places where coal is produced and projects have not been included in the has he any pr(lgramme to remove shortage Seventh Five-Year Plan. How does be of electricity in such areas ? propose to fiod funds for them and how soon? SHRI V ASANT SATHE: OUf pro- gra mme is to set up most of the super SHRI VASANT SATHE : We have thermal power stations at such places where placed both tbese projects for bilateral assis- coal is availab1e, where pithead stations taoce. and there are proposals for such assis- can be St:t up which facilitages generation tance. The moment such proposals are of energy and with this end in view, we are finalised, I will be glad to have them includ- formulating our policy. As I said earlier. we ed for implementation. are very anxious to generate more power but we are s.hort of resources. If we choose to [Translation] get resources from abroad, we incur your displeasure and if we mobilize MR. SPEAKER: The House is not con- re~ourCfS from within, even then we are at cerned about from where you get the funds, 1!w receiving f'nd. How then can energy be but the fact remains that we cannot do witb- gl.: !'le~ ated, if we do not mobilize lesources ? out power. 29 0 ral Answers KARTIKA 20. 1908 [Eng/i,h) units, 21 lakbs improved cbulhas, more tban J 000 solar thermal De,elopment of NOD-Con,eatloDal systems. 3000 photo-voltaic powered Sources of Energy street lights and 2.3 MW wind electric power etc. bave been in- .112. PROF. P.I. KURIEN : Will the stalled. These have substantially Minisfer of ENERGY be pleased to state: improved the quality of life in the villalltS aDd bomes wbere tbey are (8) the total amount spent during the operating and tbe annual saving in last three years for developiog non~c:onven fuel is also high in value compared tional sources of energy in tbe country; to tbe investn1eot made. However. energy equivaJent in percentage is (b) the percentage or energy needs being relatively small compared to the met by these sources; total energy consumed in tbe country. (c' whether the percentage could be substantia1Jy increased; and (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The percentage can be increased if increased investment is (d' if so, the steps taken io this regard? made for expansion of various extension as well as Rand D pro- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI grammes io the field of nCD-COO- VASANT SATHE) : (a) to (d). A statement ventional sources of energy. It can is given below : also be increased as costs of non- conventional energy devices come Statement down. Steps are being la·ken in this regard by intensifying Rand D (a) During the last 3 years, an amount and by ·expandin~ "olumt produc- of about Rs. 230 crures bas been tion and installation consistent spent for the development as well with tbe financial resources avail- as utilisation of noo-coo I entiona} able. sources of' energy including bioga! and improved chulhas in tbe PROF. P.l. KURIEN: The hon. country. Minister his given a long stat(ment and he has also spelt out the amount that has been (b) A large portion of the total energy spent in the Iuat three years. But he has not consumption in the country is met mentioned whether there was a phssica) till ough non-commercial sources of target for tbe production of o('n-con- energy. comprising agricultural ventional energy. 1 would like to know from residues, animal dung and fire- him whether there was a physical target for wood. The share of noo-commer. the Jast two years of tbe Seventh Plan for cial source bas undergone a change production of non-conventional ener!!y and if from 67% in 1953-54 to 40% in so. wbat percenta8e of tbis physical target 1980, largely as a result of pro- bas been achieved aod what percentage of gressive replacement of non .. com .. the total energy production is that. mercial fuel by commercial fuel,. The development of non-conven- SHRf VASANT SATHE: As far as tional energy is aimed at utiJjsing bio- physical targets are concerned, in most of mass, biogas, solar. wind and other the Don .. conventional energy sources, we forms of energy for meeting tbe have crossed the target. If actual figures tire energy needs of the people in the req"ired, I will pass them on to the bon. country particularly in rural areas. Member. But I may tell him that, already In most cases, these sources bave duriog the last three years. that is tbe last the potential to meet practically all two years of the Sixth Plf\n and one yeJ:tr of the energy Deeds of communities the Seventh Plan, we have spent about in rural areas. through the use of Rs. 230 crores which, I know, is negligibl0 8uitable technologies. Already. as rar as total eoergy is concerned. Uut arounq 6 I~kbs f'\mily size bioeas already around six lakbs family size biaSls :41 Written Answers NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 Wrllten Answers 32 units, 21 lakh. improved cbulbas, more tban It has been planned to exploit the coal 1000 solar thermal systems, 3000 photo- reserves by opening new mines to increase voltaic powered street Uabts and 3.3 MW the production of coal from tbe level of 1SS wind electric power, etc., bave been m.t. in the year 1985·86 to 226 m.t. in installed. Today we are generating 1989·90 and 400 m.t. in two thousant A,D. fuel-substitution by biogas equivalent to about Rs. 85 crores. The same Allocation of imported edible oils to amount of Rs. 8S crores worth of fertilisers Karnataka we set; and improved chulhas save about Rs. 60 crOTes. Thus you will see that tbe * i02. SHRI H.B. PATIL: Will the investment that we are making in non- Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES conventional enerlY sources is really he pleased to state : economical and advantageous. We wish we bad more resources for this. (a) whether the State of Karnataka has approached Union Government for alloca- tion of imported edible oUs for public distribution; and WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (b) if 80. the quantity issued to them so far? [English] THE M.lNISTER OF PARLIAMEN. Coal Reserves TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI • 101. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV : H.K.L. BHAOAT): (a) Yes, Sir . Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) During tbe Oil year 1985 86 (Nov., 85 to Oct., 86) Karnataka bas been aJlocated (a) whether the Oeological Survey of 41,500 Mts. of Palmolein against which they India has recently struck a huge coal reserve have lifted 35,021 Mts. till 25-10-1986. in some States; and Phased Decontrol of Cement (b) if so, tbe details thereof and the steps being taken for its exploitation ? *106. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI state: VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Geologi- cal Survey of India have estimated coal (a) whether the Planning Commission reserves of all categories of coal 2342.65 m.t. has suagested a phased decontrol of cement in five states during its Regional Exploration to end the existing policy of partial of coal in field season 1985·86 (upto decontrol ; and 30-6-86). Statewise break-up of coal reserves in millioD tonnes is as under: (b) if so, the details and Governmenfs reaction thereto ? 1. Orissa 925.00 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 2. ~adhya Pradesh 936.50 (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) No, Sir. 3. West Bcnsal 586.31 (b) Does not arise. 4. Bihar 187.27 Setting up 01 Ocean Thermal Plant In 5. Andhra pradesh 7.57 L"ksbadweep Islands -_...... _ ·107. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH 2342.65 Total MALIK: Will the Minister of ENERGY ~-- 1>, pleased to Stato : 33 W, itten Answers IC.Alt rlKA 20. 1908 (S..4KA) Written Answers 34 (a) wb~tbor thero is ,aoy proposal uDder (Enlllsh] consideration of Government to set up a Ocean Thermal Plaot in Laksbadweep Prlvatl.atlon of Sale of Coal Islands; *113. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD (b) if so. tbe time by which it will start SINGH: Will tbe Minister of ENEROY be fUDctioniol; aDd pleased to state: (c) the funds allocated for the purpose? (a) whether Government have a proposal under consideration for privatisation of tbe THB MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI sale of coal; and VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, tbr. details thereof? (b) A detailed Feasibility Report for settina up of a 1 MW OTBC plant at THE MINISTER OF ENERGY. (SHRI Laksbadwcep was commissioned through VASANT SATHE) : (a) No, Sir. MIs Metallurgical and Engineering Con- sultants llndia Ltd •• Ranebi, a public Sector (b) Does not ari$e. Consultancy firm. The Estimated capital cost was considered too bigb even for pilot Demand for Cooking Gas plant. Different alternatives are, therefore being examined to reduce the initial cost to *114. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD enable a final decision in the matter. SETHI: SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: (c) The Seventb Plan aUocation for ocean energy development is RI. 3 crores. ttNill the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: [Translation] (a) whether Government are aware that the demand for cooking gas connections is Opening of Telephone Excballges In increasing day-by .. day; Rural Areas (b) if so, whether Government bas sought information from the States regarding *110. SHR) SHANTI DHARIWAL: their demands; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (c) if so, tbe details thereof; and (a) whether Government have any (d) whether Union Government has scheme for opening more telephone exchanges fixed some targets to be ach ieved during tho in rural areas; Seventh Five Year Plan period in this reaard? (b) if so, the names of places where Government propose to open these telephone THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE , exchanges durinl the current financial year MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND and State-wise details thereof; and NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) if not. the reasons therefor ? (b) and (c). No, Sir. Release of new THB'MINISTER OF COMMUNICA .. LPG connections is made according to an TIO~S (SARI ARJUN SINGH) : (a) Yes, annual plan by the oil marketing companies. Sir. This plan is determined by projections regardina augmentation in the availability of (b) A statement is laid on tbe table Of LPG, of bottling capacity and of transporta- tbe House. [Placed In Library. See No. tion and infrastructural arrangements. LT·3213/86J (d) Apart from aD actual release of (9) Poe. Qot ,rilt, \7.l 1a~b ~Qn~tiO~8 i~ ~9~S·86, dllrip" tho 3S Written 'An,s'wers NOVBtd8BR 11, 1986 Written Answer" '6 remaining year of the Seventh Plan it is (a) to (c). Proposal for settll11 up of • 6 propo!ed to release appro"imately 70 lakh M TPA ,rasa root re6aory at Karoll was new conoections, subject to aUlmentalion approved In September, 1984. Prefim'iDary of LPO aad bottling capacity. work on acquisition of·laod. 8011 mveatip. tiona etc. were started. However, duriq Letter. Or"Rteat recommended b, Orissa the exercises made for tioaneilll tbe 7tb Plao, it was found tbat cooltraint of re- ·115. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: sources was comins in the way of imp)e- WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased mentin8 this project 10 tbe Public Sector. to state: As a result; settinl up of tbis rcfiDcry in tbe joint sector is beiDI cODsidered and offers (a) the number of applications for from various private parties for participa- letters of intent' recommended by the tion are beiDI examined. Government of Orissa pcndin8 with the Ministry; Separate TelepboDe Dlstrlet for (b) since bow long have these appli- Industrial Com,lex 01 KaJ7~" cation. been pending; and *117. SURf S. G. OHOLAP: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (c) the action proposed to be taken to pleased to state : decide them at an early date 1 (8) whether Government are consider. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY inl to form a separate Kalyan TelepboDO (SHRI l. VENGALA RAO) : (8) to (c). As District, which is a blply Industrially 00 31.10,1986, twelve applications received developed complex. for communication UDder the provisions of Iodustries (Develop- purposes; ment aDd Relulation) Act. 1951 for tbe arant of Letters of Iotent for locating (b) the progress of work at Murbad industries in Orissa are at various Telephone Exchange; stages of consideratioDs. Of these, four applications are pending for about six (c) the progress made in liviD. tele- montbs. five applications for four months phone connections at Dbasai SaralaaoD and aDd the rest have been received recently. Sbivale of Murbad Taluka, Thana dislrict; It is tbe constant endeavour of tbe Govern- and ment to dispose of aU pending applications as e"peditiously as possible. (d) the prOBress of tbe buUdinls of telephone excbaDaes at KulpOD, Dombali Settlol up of Karnal 011 ReOnery Project and Ambernatb ? • 116. SHRI RAM DHAN: Will the THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA • Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL TIONS (SHRI ARUN SINOH): (a) No, GAS be pleased to state: Sir. THE MINISTEJ. Of STATE OF THE (iii) Shivele Loa. Dtltaace J\abllc MINISTRY OP PETROLEUM AND Telepbooo Is DOt jUlti~ f91' ~lVt\A~ G~ (StliU IttA,*Mfa:Pl)tl); tlle p,."" ' . , . . '" Wrltt", Ails wer, Written Answers " (d) (I) Kalp.a-Case of acquisi- Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be 'ioa 01 _aod is 'ia' final· stago of pJeased .to atate : prO... 18,. (a) whether in order to bridle tho trade (Ii) Domball-Land bas been sap, the Committee on Trade PoJi.cies had acquired aod contract for SU810lted that indu.tries should be exempted .MAX-. butldins has recently from capacity utilisation restriction if tbe been awarded. elCcss production was utilised Cor exports; (iii) A81bernath-Land has been acquired and proposal for an (b) whether any decision on tbe above MAX·l ,building bas been recommendation bas been taken and if so, approved. the details; (c) whether any assessment bas been ( TranI/at/on] made by Government as to the surplus Supply of Edible 011 to States production that will be generated if the suggestion to remove the limit of capacity *118. SURI K. N. PRADHAN: Will utilisation is implemented in different the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL industries; and SUPPl,lSS' be pJeased to State the quantity ~f~dible oil ~Pplied to .the, States during (d) if so, the details tbereof? .., period !fom April, 1986 to Soptem ber. 1986, mODth-wise,? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) The THE MINISTER, OF PARLIAMEN- Committee on Trade Policies re,comO'lcaded TARY AFFAIR.S AND MINISTER OF that export production, in appropriate cases, FOOD AND CIVH.-, "fUPPLIES (SHRI should be exempted from capacity liconsloa H.K.L. BH~GAT) j' :~'The quantity of provisions implicit in industrial policy. imported edible oils 'uQplied month-wise to States uDder public distribution system (b) Oovernmeqt bad exempted liceD.ed/ during the period Crom April, '1986 to registered industrial undertaking' in 'Marcb September. 1986 is as under :- 1981 from obtaining subst&t)tial expaosion licences in respect of capacities in excess of (quantity in M. tonne) the licensed capacity, provided such addi- tional capacity was entirely for exports. Month Allocation Lifting This facility was subj~ct to the conditions --~ ,~"------....,, that the item was Dot reserved for exclusive --..... ~----.. -----...... production in the small scale sector and April, 1986 42.025 32,575 tbat tbe industrial undertakinlS did Dot May, 1986 49.940 38,~S3 instal additional machinery, indiaenoUI or imported for acbieving tbe excess June, 1986 55,740 38,724 production. It has DOW been decided, in the li&ht of tbe above recommendation of July, J985 60,130 57,814 tbe· Committee, to do away with these restrictive CODditioos. Copies of a Preu AUIUSt, 1986 82,580 59,253 Note dated 25.9.86 and a ootitication dated 6.11.86 issued in tbis reaard ltave boca September,_ 1986 88,980 83,914 supplied to Parliament Libra..,. ' Total 3,79.395 3,10,833 (e) No, Sir. -.'''' .. "._,.... _-----._ (d) Does Dot •• •'.! 'Ope,lIlo. of 'All W.. ea' P ••t 0" Eae.,rl•• I.t•••• ,de. :frolD Capadt, ~" •.·R ... Iet.o. • J20. IHRl N. DENNIS: win tIN " . M'.-. ., COMMUNICATION. be ·'19. 181:1 N.ITVANANDA ,MISRA; p.... d,to._; 3~ Written Answers Written Answers 40 , (a) whetber ·an women' post offices are THE MINISTBR Of ENERGY (SHRI proposed to be opened soon at various VASANT SATHB) : (a> to (c). A Working places; and Group bad been sct up dudoS 1984-85 to prepare proposals for tbe 7tb Plan period (b) if so. the details thereof? iD the area of non-conventional sources of energy. This Workins Group prepared THB MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- comprehensive proposals for this area t TIONS (SHRI ARYN SINGH): (a) and including large scale utilisation of wind and (b). Subject to availability of suitable solar energy in the country, witb a recom- offt.;ials, the O;:partment encourages selected meDded Seventh Plan outlay of Rs. 5574.07 post offi~es being wholly or mainly managed crores (includina Rs. 2146.00 crores as by women employees. There are 7 such loans) to achieve annual energy generationl post offi~es functioning in Delhi, tbe names saving of 42.62 million toones of coal of which are furnished io the statement replacement from non-conventional encflY given below. sources. The actual allocation was how .. ever Rs. 519 crores for the five year plan. Statement The programmes are being implemented vigorously within this constraint. Name, of 'Air Worne,,' post offices at pre.ent functioning in l'e/hl Circle (d) Comprehensive programmes of J. Parliament House. re~earch 'and development, demonstration, utilisation, industrial, production and eva1u- 2. Saosadiya Saudba. ation to develop non-conventional sources of energy throughout tho country including 3. RaiJ Bbavan. Guja.rat coastal areas are being implemented by the DNES. Tllis includes wind electric 4. Maiden's Hotel. generators in coastal Gujarat, and Biogas plants, improved cbulbas. energy plantations, 5. Sadiq Nagar. biomass energy systems. solar energy units etc. in vjllages throughout the country 6. R .. K. Puram Sector VIII. including coastal Oujarat. 7. Defence Colony. Setting up of Eartb Statlooa Development of Wind and Solar EnerlY 1034. SHRIMATI JAYANTI in Gujarat PATNAIK: Will the Minister of 1033. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Will tbe Minister of ENER.GY be pleased to state: (a) the number of earth stations set up in the. country; (a) whether a working sroup sct up by Obvernment to propose a programme for (b) the )oca tioD of each of these earth large scale utilisation of wind and solar stations; eoerlY in the country bas submitted aoy (c) whether Government propose to set report; up som, more eartb stations in 1986-87; (b) if so, the details of the recommen· dations made and the steps taken by (d) If so. the ..places identified for tbo Government to implement tbem; location or these earth stations; and (c) if not. by when Government expect (0) the details tbereof? the workiog ,roup to submit its report; and T~E MINISTBR OF STATB IN THB (d) what other measures arc being taken MINISTRY OP COMMUNICATIONS by the Government to develop tbese sources (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (8) of energy in tbe couotry and particu!arJ, in 29 fixed aDd tbree transpertable earth coastal area of Gujarat Slato , atatlODS for public telecommuDicatioo. I ~", I ", II ' ,I • 1 J" 41 Written Answers Written Answers 42 (b) Location of fixed earth stations arc SUPPLIES (SHRl GHULAM NABI at- AZAD): (8) aod (b). While it is true tbat the 'Rasika' fruit drjnk plant of Modern Delhi, Bombay'" Calcutta. Madras and Food Industries (India) Limited, an under- SbiJ1ons, Ahmedabad. Bbubancshwar, taking of the Ministry, has been incurring Ernakutam, Hydera bad, Jaipur., JulJundur, losses. the Josses have been declining as Lucknow II Patna. would be seen from the followin8 data for the last three years :- Agartata, A,zwal, Bhuj, Carnicobar, Gangtok, Imphal, Ilanagar" Jodhpur, (Rs. in lakbs) Kobima, Kavaratty. Leb. Minicoy, Panjim, Port Blair, Srinagar and KuJu. Y"ar Amount of loss (c) Work pertaining to a number of additional earth stations is in progress. The completion of works at thes~ earth stations 1983-84 22.25 is however expected during next year viz. 1987·88. 1984-85 18.81 (d) and (e). The places where additional 1985-86 7.44 earth st8ti~ns under installation are at Doda, Rajouri, Poonch, KargiJ. Phoolbani, ,-_..• ,----_._------Keylong. Kalpa. Zero, Deperego, Seppa, Anini. Jaiselmer, Srioagar (Garbwal). {c} No, Sir. Joshimuth, Ultarkasbi, Cambell Bay. Diglipur and Mayabunder Power Tariff in States Losses on Rasika Plant 1036. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state 1035. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: the details of tbe power tariff per unit in Will the ~tinister of FOOD AND CIVIL different States and Union Territories as on SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 31st August. 1986 and Union Government's power projects ? (a) whether it is a fact that the losses are being incurred by Modern Food Indus- tries (India) Ltd. on its juice drink THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 'Rasika'; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE tv1JNISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSH1LA ROHTAG I) : The estimated (b) if so, the loss incurred durioB the averaae rates of electricity for various last three years; and categories of consumers in different States and Union Territories as on 31.8.1986 are (c) whether Government propose to given in the Sratemeot below. Power close down this plant in view of continuous supplied by tbe Central Generating Stations losses? is pooled by States/Union Terri10ries with the power generated at their own stations THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for the purpose of fixation of tariff. MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL ~ t , ", '\ U W'ri.,.: Answ,erl MOVSMBBa t a•• tIf, W,'t,." ..4....w. ,~ \' Stat.... t , Stat.IM,,' .Ito.,,,,, .,f/lltll'ttd .,.,a,. 'tI'''' til EI,clrklty /or varlDU' calegotle, 0/ Co_""'~" (A, Oil 31.8./986) ~~ . , . -' .. - ,-.~" -- --..,. -~- s. Name of the SBD/ Domestic Commer- Alricu) .. Small Medium Larae No. UT/Blecy. Deptt.1 Ligb-ts cial tural Indus- Indus- Indus.. Licensees/Govt. and faos Lilbii S H.P. tries tries tries UDdertakiogs (30 KWhl and faDs 10% I.F. S H P. SO KW lOCO KW Month) (200Kwbl (272 Kwh/ 10%L.F. 30% L.F. S()IJ(, L.P. Month) Month) (272 (10950 (365000 Kwh/ Kwhl Kwb/ tAontb) Month) Month) 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 1. Andhra Pradesh 51.67 96.S0 9.50 56.84 55.05 69 IS 2. Assam 60.00 73.00 30.00 S7.oo S7.oo SS.19 3. Bibar 62.33 83.50 36.00 112.00 110.00 97.28 4. Gujarat May to Oct . . 6S.oo 90.07 36.51 86.45 93.66 100.73 Nov. to April 6S.00 90.07 36.51 86.45 98.39 105.09 5. Haryana 45.00 106.2.5 32.33 6.5.00 85.50 90 •.50 7. J and K 33.08 58.90 11.50 22.70 22.70 20.40 8. Karnataka 5S.00 156.25 11.49 86.03 78.67 71.28 9. Kerala 47.66 60.50 15.22 30.77 22.72 34.20 10. Madhya Urban 48.00 J03.50 16.00 68.00 77.61 95.03 Pradesh Ilural 46.00 103.50 16 •.50 68.00 77.61 95.03 11. Maharashtra Bombay 38.S0 109.80 15.31 60.00 80.54 107.33 and Pune Other areas 37.50 104.80 15.31 60.00 80.54 94.10 J2. Meabalay. SO.OO 81.00 21.00 70.00 66.85 48.60 ,13. Oris.. 56.00 95.00 22.15 57.00 65.50 87.28 14. Punjab 53.84 f105.00 13.50 55.00 64.35, 62.89 15. Rajastban 58.00 96.00 29.00 69.00 "83.00 .5.00 16. Tamn Nadu M.dru 55.00 . 115.00 11.49 85.00 85.00 85.12 Other Aroae ' 55.00 110.00 11.49 80.00 80.00 80.12 45 Wrlnnt AnSwe" KM1'atA·" .,,,. (.AU) ",.Uten 14""" ~ 1 2 3 4 S· , 7 8 17. Uttar Pradesh 74.00 t04.oo S5.iS 89.79 84.46 100.59 18. West Benaal 57.00 85.00 35.00 63.50 94.45 19. A aDd N Islands 58.00 51.75 43.00 20. Arunacbal P,adesh' 50.00 50.00 27.00 27.00 42..00 21. Cbandilarb 36.65 88.00 17.76 32.20 42.37 44.44 22. D and N Havell 60.00 92.75 54.19 67.03 62.17 61.,89 23. Delhi DESU 29.00 91.00 21.00 78.00 78.00 100.80 NDMC 29.00 92.00 78.00 78.00 24. Ooa, Daman and Ooa 40.00 8~.7S 25.00 50.00 63.00 68.80 Diu. Daman and Diu 60.00 83.50 45.00 55.00 63.00 72.67 25. 14aksbadweep 60.00 60.00 40.00 32.74 26. Maoipur 45.00 25.00 25.00 27. Mizoram 48.00 60.00 25.00 24.46 28. Nagaland 64.00 74.00 50.00 62.00 62.00 62.00 29. Pond icberry 5'.00 135.00 16.85 72.00 72.00 70.50 30. Sikkim 46.67 64.00 64.00 64.()0 64.00 38.88 31. Tripura 60.00 77.00 35.00 40.00 40.00 32. Ahmedabad 82.72 142.98 73.86 103.05 111.11 109.53 B.E.S.T. 76.S0 185.00 151.00 151.54 125.66 33. Bombay SulMaJ'ban 79.10 191.60 20.00 140.60 ( 138.45 JJ8.S3 Tatas 100.46 34. Calcutta (CUC) SOJlO 96.00 80.00 93.66 103.50 DVe (il) Ribar area 3'. - 73.44 (b) W. BeD18I_", _ 74.94 36. Du.... pur ',ojects 52.00 '7·00 a,eo 4'.50 46.78 43.84 J..td. 47 Written Answers NOVBMBER 11. 1986 Written Answers 48 Import of hyde) geDeratorl aDd capthe MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL power plants by States Electricity SUPPLIES (SHRl OHULAM NABI Boards AZAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1037. SHRI RADHAKANTA (b) Tbeir main demands are: DIOAL : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (i) Wage revision; (b) if so, the names of the State (iv) Review of Transfer Policy; Electrici ty Boards tbat propose to import and captive power plants and hyde) generators: (v) Scrapping of Regulation 19 (i) (c) tbe cost of such hyde) generators of FCI Regulations. ' and captive power plants; and (c) In re&pect of demands at (i) and (d) the details tbereor ? (ii) above, a High Power Committee has been appointed by the Central Govern- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment io tbe Department of Public Enter- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL prises under tbe directives of tbe Supreme DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Court. The Committee has been directed INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- to give its report within one year of its CHALAM): (a) to (d). Andhra Pradesh assuming office. 10 respect of the demands State Electricity Board had proposed at (iii) and (iv), FCI is seized of the matter. impJrt of 3 X 30 MW Turbo Generators The matter at (v) is sub judice. for Nagarjuna-Sagar Hydro Electric Pro- ject from U K. for a value of Rs. 21.36 Setting up of Roller Flour MUls crores (c.i.f.). In addition. another pro~ posaT from Karnataka Power Corporation 1039. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ bad been received for import of 16 Diesel Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Generating Sets from MIs. Nissho Iwai, SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Japan for a value of Rs. 45.10 crores (.c.Lf.). whether under the guidelines prescribed for setting up roller flour mills, Demands of F.e.l. Employees not more than one mill is allowed to be ins- talled in a district; 1038. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Will tbe Minister of FOOD (b) if so. whether there arc any AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to districts where more tban one mill have state ; been set up; and (a) whether it is a fact that a dele- (c) it so, their names aod the reasons gation of National Committee' of the Food for Dot following the guidelines? Corporation of India Employees Union met THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE him on 7 October, J986 and brought to MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL his notice the outstanding demands of FCI Employees tbrough a memorandum; SUPPLIBS (SHRI OHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) No, Sir. (b) what are their main demands; (h) and (c). Do not arise. and Supply of Woollen Garments to ONGC (c) the reaction of Government thereon? 1040. DR. V. VENK~TBSH : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND ~ATVl\A'" O;'S be ~lease~ to ,t,t9 ; 49 Jt'rltttn Anlwe" KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) WrItten Ans~er.s' SO (a) whether the on aod Natural Ga. (c) the likely date by whicb it would Commission contracted with a private firm be done? for swpp)y of woonen garments for its employees; THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA. (b) whether the supply received by the TIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN Commis~ion was not according to the DEV): (a) The names of villages atc specification agreed to; indicated in tbe statement given below; (c) whether the employees expressed their discontentment over tbe quality of (b) and (c). No, Sir. 1 here is no ga rments; and proposal at present to open new post offices in Himachal Pradesh or other States. (d) if so, the facts of the case and As regards relaxation from ban orders. action taken in this rogard ~ the basic position is tbat openiog of Dew post offices involves creation on Posts THE MINISTER OF STATE,.OF THE on which a ban still exists. However. in MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND the modified guidelines issued by the NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Ministry of Finance creation of posts under DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir. Plan Schemes and filling up of such posts is permitted with the approval of the (b) Yes. Sir, tbe quantity supplied by " Finance Ministry. At present tbe Depart- the company was found to be deviating ment is takina a fresh look at the norms from the prescribed specificatioDs. for opening of post offices in rural areas in the light of recommendations of the Committee of Enquiry on Extra Depart. (c) and (d). There bas been no general mental System and taking into account the discontent over this issue amongst tbe extensive network already estabHshed which I employees except that a complaint from the in some areas is also redundant to actual Transport Workers Association, Nazira requir~ments of postal traffic. When this about the quality of woollen clotb has been exerci"e is completed. Ministry of Finance received. The Oil and Natural Gas Com- is to be approach for approval for mission are negotiating with the company opening of new post offices as may be found for suitable price reduction for deviations justified. in the specifications. Opening of New Extra Departmental Statement Post Offices List 0/ villages re/prred to /11 part (a) 0/ the 1041. PROF. NARAIN CHAND reply PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to refer District Shlmls to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 588 on 22 July. 1986 regarding opening Diswani of new Extr~ Departmental Post Offices and state : District Hamfrpur Nara (a) the names of tbe eigbteen places in Himacbal Pradesh. districtwise. where DI.trlct Una the opening of Post Offtces could not be effected, iospite of tbeir beiDg justified as Batbu per existing norms; Diltrlct BiI.lpur (b) Whether the Post Offices would be opened now that considerable relaxation bas Saikbarsi beflD liven in the ban on recruitment by the _f\1ipistlf of :riD.Doe; ••~ " 51 Written Answers NOVEMBER 11,. 1986 Wrltt,n Answers , Sl Dlltrl(t Mandl natural.as in the Seventh Five Year Plan period? Dbauri THE MINISTER OF STATBOF THB Dumatbebli MINISTRY ,OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRl BRAHMA District Kula DUTT): (a) The Seventh Plan envisa- ges projects for stepping up oil and las Dradba production. District Labol and Spltl (b) Production is envisaled from Bombay Offshore, Eastern Region and Kirdina Cambay basin. An outlay of about Rs. 1400 erores has tentatively been identified District SoiaD for development driUinl daring the Seventh Plan period. Cbamalbhudach Consumption of Petrol aod Petroleum District SI rmour Products Mandbra 1043. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will the Minister of PBTROLEUM AND District Kangra NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Dasoli (8) whether Government have sought the advice of experts to reduce the con .. Kharat sumption of petro} and petroleum products so as to save foreign exchange involved in Pandtehar their imports; and Matyal (b) if so, the details regarding tbe measures taken by Government in this District Cbamba re-gard ? Pansai THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND District Kao&ur NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Jani PUTT) : I D the 88ricultural sector, PCRA . (8) wbether Government have made initiated rectification of lift irrigation pump.. efforts to set up experimental solar tbermal sets.. During the last two years, 190 diesel power stations of 10 to 20 MW; driven lift irrigatioD puropscts were rectified resultiog io diesel saving of around (b) if so, tbe details tbereof, State-wise; 30% in these pumpaets. (c) whether Government have framed Against a cumulative expenditure of aoy scheme for setting up such power plants; Rs. 5 crares since the inception of PCRA. and a saving of petroleum products worth Rs. 150 cr")res per annum has been achieved by (d) if so, the details thereof? the various conservation activities of PCRA. In the industrial sector alone an annual THE MINISTBR OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Yes recurring saving of fuel oil wortb Rs. 110 t crOTes has been acbieved through efforts of Sir. In order to set up Solar Thermal PCRA and the industries. The balance of Power Plants in the MW range; various Rs. 40 crores is attributed to the use of technology options have been studied and fuel etlicient equipment listed above and d~signs for the most viabJe options have observance of energy conservation measures been prepared. Pos.iible sites for installing in the other sectors of economy. Solar ther~al power plants in the range of 5-30 MW are new being selected. So rar 00 solar thermal power plant in the M W range Setting up of New Telephone Excbange bas been in!)talled in the country; however, at Jirat, Hoogbly, West Bengal the department of Non-Conventional Energy Sources bas already installed one Solar 1044. SHRI SAIPUDDIN CHOW· tbermal power plant of capacity 22 KW DHAR \' Will the Minister of using· point focussing collectors and steam COMM UNICATIONS be pleased to state: engine at village Sollojipally in Andbra Pradesh. The plant is being studied for its (a) whether a new telephone exchange performance in actual field conditions. bas been proposed to be set up at Jirat, Another power plant of capacity SO K W Hooghly, West Bengal; using line focussing collectors and steam (b) whether applications from the turbine bas' recently been designed and is customers have already been invited and being installed in village Acbheja in District deposits takeo; and Gbaziabad, U.P. The third power plant of capacity 50 K W using point focussinl (c) jf so, tbe progress made in its collectors and stirling engine is proposed 10 commissioning? be installed in Solar Energy Centre of ONES at Gwal Pabari, District Gurgaon, Haryana. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN' THE This work bas provided inputs necessary for MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS designing/planning M W size solar power (SHRI SONTOSH .MOHAN DEV): plants also. (a) Yes, Sir. (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The Government (b) Yes, Sir. have drawn up plans for building . I an experlmenta 30 M W solar power station (c) Proposal to instal a 50 line capacity bas~d on the line focussing and J-5 MW MAX-Ill type exchange parented to Kalaa station.. based OD point focussing collect ors. has been sanctioned. The exchange Is I DVeStlgat~ons are in progress for selecting tbe expected to be commissioned by March best locatIons for tbese statioDs. 1987. Setting u., of Experimental Solar New Power Projects 10 Karnfttaka Tbermal Power Stations 1046. SHR) SRIKANTA DATTA NARAStMHARAJA WADIYAR· WOU 104'. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: WilJ the the Minister of ENERGY be ple~sed : Minister of BNBRO Y be pleased to state : state: 0 55 Wruten Answers NOVEMBeR 11, 1!l16 Wrltte" AlISwers 56 (a) whother Government have taken steps to generate additional power iD 1 3 Karnataka dutiDS 1986.8.1; 3. Ghatprabba (b) if 80. whetber any new power project 2X 16 32 has been set up in Karnataka in the above yearj 4. MaJlapur 2X4.S 9 (c) jf Dot, whether there is aoy proposal S. Madhur Branch 1 X I.S I.S under the consideration of Government to Canal establish any new power project in tbat State during Seventh Five Year PJao; and 6. Sirwar 1 Xl (d) tbe details thereof? 7. Micro Hydel 1 X 0.7S 0.75 THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 383.25 MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI); (a) The power Thermal generating syste111 in Karnataka bejng mainly hydel, the . power generation depends upon 1. Raicbur Unit 2 favourable monsoon in catchment areas of 210* ------.---~- hydet reservoirs. However, action. was taken (Hydro+~bermal) to ensure early stabilisation of Raichur Total 593.25 Units II (210 MW) which was commissioned in March 1986. * Cummissioned 1985-86. (b) No power project is scheduted for BHEL con'ract for RabJgb Power Station commissioning in Karoataka during in Saudi Arabia 1986 .. 87. 1047. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUUU : (c) and Cd). During Seventh Five Year Will the Mioister of INDUSTRY be pleased Plaot a capacity addition of 593.25 MW is to state: envisaged for commissioning in Karnataka as per the Statement given below. Out of (a) whether it is fact that Bbarat Heavy this, a capacity of 310 MW bas already been Electricals Limited (BHEL) has won a commissioned. contract for the management of operations and maintenance of the new Rabigh Power Statement Station in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; and Capacity Addition cTlvi.'wgrc/ during the Seventh Five Year Plan in (b) if so, tbe details of the contract and Karnataka the estimated worth/cost of tbe contract? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Name of the Pcoject Capacity Seventh DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (MW) Plan PRISES IN THE MINISTR Y OF benefits INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): eMW) (a) Yes, Sir. ----,,------._----- _._ ... _.. _.. ._- __ (b) BHEL bas received an order from 1 2 3 Saudi Consolidated Blectric Company (SCECO)-West for deputation of '26 Hydro experts to assist them in the manaaement of 1. Supa Dam 2XSO 100· operation and maintenance of tbe new Rabiah Power Station in Saudi Arabia. The 2. Varabi 2X 115+ 239 total value of tbe contract is Rs. 2.2 croces 2X4.S approximatel)'. 5' Written Alfswers KARTlKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer s ~8 New tJPes of Jute Baal for PaekhlS 1986 regardina report of Experts Team on Ce,ment Second Mine Expansion Project of NeyveJi Lignite Corporation and state ,: 1048. SHRIMATI MADHUREE SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (a) wbether the Rbeinbraun Consultants be pleased to state : of West Germany had Dot found the M.A.N. of West Germany and WMI to be entitled (a) whether new types of j~te bags for to participate in the tender bids because of packina cement have been introduced; their inexperience etc; (b) if so. the ad vd.ntages thereof and (b) whether the management of Neyveli extent of its use at present; , Lignite Corporation had suggested to allow their partici.,ation only for the purpose of (c) whether the use of jute bags is evaluation of total tenders; optional or mandatory; and (c) if so, the facts tbereof and reasons (d) wt,~n the old bags will be completely for awarding further huge contracts of done away with 1 supplies of mining equipment to NeyveJi Lignite Corporation in favour of the above THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE said firms; and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE... LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (d) the action being proposed in this INDUSTRY (SHRJ M. ARUNACHALAM): regard? (a) Yes, Sir. Government have recently introduced two new types of bags designated THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI as (i) NCB Light Weight Jute Bags weighing VASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). Initially, 446 gms. and (ij) NCB Jute Synthetic Union the Rheinbraun Consulting blld not Bags weighing 416 gros. for,packing cement. recommended the inclusion of M.A.N. in the shortlist for the supply of Spreaders for (b) The performance of new type of this project, thougb for the earlier Hod bags is expected to be better in terms of Mine first stage, they had recommended the seepage, bursting and hooking compared to inclusion of MIs M A.N. in the short list conventional jute bags, besides saving in for Spreaders etc. Therefore, having looked jute consumption and the cost of packing. into the range and variety of equipment' As these bags have been introduced only and machineries for which tbe M.A.N. were recently, the exact information regarding the recommended and had also supplied in the extent of their use is not available. past and the fact that this very Rheinbraun Consulting had qualified M.A.N. for supply (c) 1\ is open for the cement factories to of more sopbisticated equipments, like pack cement in conventional jute bags or Bucket Wheel Excavator, the NLC decided the new types of bagc; for I evy cement as to keep M.A.N. in the short-list to ensure mentioned above provided they meet with ·competitive bidding and ultimately awarded the prescri bed lSI specifications. the contract for Spreaders to M.A.N. whose final offer was tbe lowest evaluated and (d) Since use of new types of bags has teC"hnically acceptable. Rheinbraun Consult- been introduced only recently, it is difficult ing to whom NLC's evaluation report was to indicate as to whether and when the use sent for endorsement had also accepted of old bags would be done away with. NlC's decision to award the Contract to M A.N./WMI. KFW, who were funding Supply of Mining Equipment for Second the foreign exchange for this project. also Mine ~xpanslon Project of Ncyveli ,accepted this decision. Lignite Corporation Drilling by ONGe In An~hra Pradesh 1049. SHRI V. SREENIVASI\ PRASAD! Will the Mini.ster of EN~RGY 1050. SHRI MANIK REDDY: W,ll be' pleased to refer to the reply gIVen to the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Unstarred Question No. 3729 on 12 AUlost, NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : 59 Written Answers NOVEMBER 1It 1986 Written Answers 60 (8) whether it is 8 fact that Oil and <8> the monthly expenditure iucurred by Natural Gas Commission has plans to start tbe Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Ltd. drilling at Kom,nllgudcm, UadaU, Tatipaka. on residential accommodation for its .Delhi- 2, Surasanayanam in Andbra Pradesh; and based officers and on buildings hired . by it for office and godown; (b) if so, the amount earmarked for the drilliog works and probable date to start (b) the steps proposed to cut down this drilling ? expenditure; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (0) whetber it is proposed to ~blft it~ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND offices to the pJ"nt site at Gurgaon aod NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA OUTT) : other pJaces ? (a) and (b). ONGC has planned to start drilling at Kommugudem, Surasanayanam, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Tatipaka·2 and Vadali during 1986-87. Tbe DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND estimated expcnditure on drilling (excluding PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY capital ai:quisition) during 1986-87 in OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- Krishna Godavari basin onshore is Rs. 53 CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The crores. information is being collected and will be laid on tbe Table of the House. Dispute 011 Quality of Rice in Fel Godowns in Calcutta Digging of Wells to find out Oil Deposits in West Bengal~ Himalayan Foothills 1051. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : and Ganga Valley etc. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1053. SHRI R.P. DAS : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (a) whether it is a fact that rice is NATURAL GAS be pleased to statc : rotting in the godowns of Food Corporation of India in Calcutta (Kashipur) over a (a) the names of the sites in West dispute whether the rice supplied is 'Fine' Bengal, Himalayan foothills and Ganga or 'Super Fine'; Velley, Mabanadj and Andamans where diggiog of wells to find out oil deposites is (b) how much of the rice jn dispute has in progress; and become unfit for human consumption; and (b) the results achieved so far 1 (c) whether Government propose to streamline their procedure of supplies ill THE M1NISTER OF STATE OF THE order to avoid such disputes aod if so, the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND details thereof? NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Exploratory drilling is in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE progress in tbe States/basins as follows: M"INISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD) = (a) No~ Sir. State/Basin Name of site (b) Does Not arise. 2 (c) There is already a well laid West Bengal Badra procedure for issue of foodgrains. Deganga Domjure Expenditure 00 ReDt of Building by tD.P.L. Himalayan Foothills Cheri and Oaoga Valley (Himachal 1052. DR B,L. SHAILESH: Will the Pradesh) r-.1ini~ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to Madhubani Ml:let; (Bibar) 61 Written Answers KART·IKA 20. 1908, (SAKA) Written Answers 62 setting up such units in the State, parti. 1 2 cularly in tbe fno-dis trict' zones; Mabanadi (c) if so, the details tbereof; and Andaman Offshore AN structure (d) the action being proposed to be and Eastern' taken to set up these units in the State to Sbelf provide, inter alia, employment opportu- nities? . . (b) The results will be known only after completion of drilling and testing of THB MINISTER O,F STATE ')N THE wells. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- PRISES IN THE MINISTR Y OF Complaints regardin~ Non-rerund of INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY) : (8) Deposi.s against Andbra Pradesh to (d). Information is being collected and a Scooters Limited statement will be laid on the Table of the House. 1054. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH of INDUSTRY be Will the Minister Telephone System in Calrutta and pleased to state : Howrah (a) whether Government have received )056. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : comp1aints against Andhra Pradesh Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Scooters Limited regarding non-refund of be pJeased to state : deposits; (b) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether Government are aware of the almost defective telephone sy~tem at (c) the steps taken in the matter? Calcutta and Howrah during this rainy season; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INOUSTRIAL (b) if so, the number of telephones DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF which went out of order and how many of INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- them are still out of order; and CHALAM) : (a) to (c). Though there ale some instances of delay in refunding the (c) the Rteps Government have tsken to deposit money due to non-compliance of improve tbe situation as emergency certain fprmalities stipulated by tbe measures? company, 00 complaint of non-refund of deposit. money by tbe company bas been brought to the notice of the Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Setting up of Projects of Government (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (8) Undertakings In West Bengal Yes. Sir. 1055. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA (b) (i) Approximately 50,000 telephones SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY were dead at the time of floods. be pleased to state : (ii) At present approximately 1 J,000 (8) whether Government have recoived telephones are remaining out of several representations from tbe Slate of order for more tban 7 days. West Bengal in relard to settio. up certain projects of Government of India under- takiDIS; (c) The steps taken as emergency measures are ,iven in tbe stat~m~ ... t below" 63 Written Answers NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Written Answers 64 Statement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Steps token to ImP"ove the .,It.uation as (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN tmer gene .Y mPQJ ures DEV) : (a) Residents of Faridabad and Bahadurgarb have direct dialling facility J. Maintenance teams worked for with Delhi, being part of the e'rst\\hile Delbi long hours and often round the Telephone District and not because of clock immediately after heavy· rains National Capital Region considerations. and flooding of the city to locate and restore the cable faults with (b) Subscribers or Ghaziabad exchanges least possible deJays. can only directly dial telephones of Delhi Te1ephone System. 2. All the resources at the disposal of tbis district were diverted for (c) NOIDA subscribers can also directly restoration of faulty telephone dial telephones in Delhi Telephone Jines,. An cable splicers and other System. staff from installation and planning (d) to (f). Does not arise in view of sections were diverted for fault reply to part (c). clearance jobs. Expansion and Development of Telephone 3. Close liaison was maintained with Exchanges in Andbra Pradesh other utilities so that while repairing their own services they 1058. SHRI KATURI NARAYANA do not further damage the SWAMY: Will the Minister of COMMU· telephone cables which were in NICATIONS be pleased to state: close proximity to tbose under .. ground services. (a) whether Government have taken any steps for the expansion and develop- Direct Dialling Facility from NOIOA ment of telephone exchanges in ~ndhra Pradesh; and 1057. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: (b) if so, the details thereof? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether residents of Bahadurgarh (SHRl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and Faridabad can make direct call to Yes. Sir. Delhi/New Delhi as these areas are (b) Expansion of telephone systenl in considered as National Capital Region Andbra Pradesh by opening new exchanges areas; as well a~ by extending the capacity of existing exchanges bas been planned as (b) whether district Ghaziabad is also ,follows in the 7th Five Year Plan period: connected with Delhi/New Delhi in respect of direct dialling; Expansions Planned (c) if so, the r~asons why the NOIDA (in number of area of district G haziabad is not connected lines) with Delhi/New Delhi exchange as in the case of Bahadurgarh/Faridabad/Ghaziabad (i) Hyderabad 51,700 etc; (Ii) Vijayawad 10,900 (d) whether Government p.'opo~e to (iii) Other towns 74,400 make this facility available to the reSI~eDts in Andbra of NOIDA 'also in the near future; Pradesh (e) if so, when; and Total 1,37,000 (f) if not, tbe reasons tberef or ? '_--"'_- 65 Written Answers KArtTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 Execution of Peadie. Power Project. 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""X ~ 0 $ Q N "0 ~ c:a '"X X + + GIl N ~ '"c;) '"M ~ - ""'" X X N 2 .... 0 '0 X ~ rIl- rIl ,...... Q,. a '" Q.. I... .! -~ -< ~ ~ -<._., ,... :2 .._., -..... 1 ... ..: f .2 Cl rIl i- ii• :c . e K ~ .•Q ~ I:-t G'U- ca:a I ." N ... A. II :s15 I J f ::: a .-8- a I ~ w • ! " I . •...: 0' d ... ,~ '" Ii C"'\ ..... 19 Written An3wers NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Written Answer., 80 Av.Uablntl of Kbadl Gramodyog Vastr•• suddeo increase in demand for improted tbroach Central Government Em,lo)'eel auto sbock absorbers 7 Con.uDler Cooperative Soflety Ltd., New Delbi . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 1060. SHRI HAFIZ MOHO. SIDDIQ DEVELOPMENT IN THE MJNISTR Y Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased OF INDUSTRY (SHRf M. ARUNA· stato : CHALAM): (8) to (c). Automobile Sbockabsorber manufacturers in the country (a) whether Khadi Gramodyol Bbawan bave been. by and larae, meeting tbe require- in CODnaugbt Place, New Delhi is unable ment of vebicle manufacturers as well as to cope up witb tbe rush; spares market. However, there has been substantial increase in the demand for this (b) if so, whether there is any proposal item, both in terms of quantity and to extend the availability of kbadi quality, because of tbe incre'lse in the Iramodyog vastras through the Central production of various categories of vehicles. Government Employees Consumer Coopera .. With a view to meentig" the increased tive Society Ltd .• New Delbi; and demand and specifications of the new .ranges of vehicles, Government has anowed import (c) if Dot, the reaSOD! thereof and of technology by both existing as well as measures proposed to be taken to cope \lP new manufacturers for modernisation aDd with tbe rush ? induction of new technology. A limited quantity of tbis item has been permitted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for import by tbe' man~facturers of new DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL ranges of vehicles under an approved phased DEJlELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY manuracturing programme. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. During the AppJlrations for Telepbone Connections special rebate period, extra hands are in Kuthlalhode T"lephone Exchange employed to cope with the rusb. , in Kef.Ua 1062. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- (b) is no such proposal. Apart There MAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA· from Kbadi Gramodyog Bbavan there are TIONS be pleased to state : other sales outlets in New Delhi and there is also "Gram Sbilpi' near Khadi (0) the number of applications for Oramodyog Bbavan in Connaught Place, telephone connectiqns in Kutbiathode New Delhi. Telephone Bxchange in Kef ala pending so far; and (c) Does not arise. (b) the earliest date by which tbe Outao or Foreign Exchange on Import connections can be given to the applicants? of Auto Shork Absorbers THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CO~tMUNICATlONS 1061. DR. CHJNTA MOHAN: Will (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to As on 30.9.1986 the number of telephone state : connections pending in Kuthiatbode telephone exchange is 72. (a) whether there is avoidable outgo of scarce foreign exchanlc in import of items (b) The connections can be given after sucb as auto shock &bsorbers; installation of 200 lincs MAX-II type exchange which is expected in 1988.89. (b) whether auto shock absorbers can be manufactured in tbe country to meet tbe CentrallD'feltment In Industries In Ker.la demand using our vast computer knowledac and, installed capacity; and 1063. SHal K. MOHANDAS: Will tbe Minister 9f INP1;JSTIt Y .be pleased to st." ; i ' 81 'Written Answers KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 82 the total central investment in industries made 80 far in Kerala: 1 2 3 ._...... 4 •• ___ ...... ____ • _ ~~. __ (b) the State-wise break-up of central investment in the industl'ial sector; S. Karnataka 1327.53 (c) whether it is a fact tbat the central 9, KeraJa 831.22 Investment in the industrial sector in Kerala is far below national average; and 10. Madbya Pradesh "...... <",~""I""""'''' •. 5396.12 (d) if so, the steps being taken to 11. Mabarasbtra 7601.81 remedy the situation ? 12. Manipuf 131.32 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 13. Meghalaya 1.89 DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- 14. Nagaland 72.98 CHALAM): (8) and (b). A statement showing the quantum of investment in terms 15. Orissa 2997,74 of Gross Block in different States including Kerala at the end of March. 1985 is given 16, Punjab 563.62 below. 17. Rajasthan 647.62 (c) and (d). No discrimination or favour is shown to any individual State 18. Tamilnadu 2548.86 while taking decisions on central investment in industrial projects. The establishment 19. Tripura 93.38 of industries at a particular location is guided by the considerations of techno- 20. Uttar Pradesh 2532.77 economic feasibility, availability of raw materials infrastructure, etc. 21. W~st Bengal 3345.37 22. Andaman and Nicobar 6.21 • Statement 23. Chandigarh 3.52 Distribution of Gross Block 24. Delhi 1238.83 Sl. Name of State/ Gross Block 25. Goa 17.79 No. Union Territory (Rs. in crores) 1984·85 26. Pondicherry 7.66 1 2 3 27. Others and Unallocated 3246,09 ------_.. _._ •. _------~ --..... - .. -~--,-- Andhra Pradesh 3983.12 1. Total 47323.27 2. Assam 2451.15 Retirement Age of Supreme Court and 3. Bihar 5833.77 Higb Court Judges 4. Oujarat 1771.77 1064. SHRI V.N. GADGIL : Will the s. Haryana 411.80 Ministt;r of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to refer to the reply to Unstarred 6. Himachal Pradesh 211.05. Question No. 414 on 25th F~bruary. 1986 regarding retirement age of Supreme Court CO~ft Jud~e8 $tat~.: and Higb~ and 1. laQ1Ql\l and ~asb~if . .. . 83 Written Answers NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 Written Answers 84 (a) whether Government have since A budget out]ay of RI. 150.00 lakbs bal considered the matter; and been provided for the purpose for 1986-87. About 40 researcb institutions have been (b) if so, the decision taken thereon? sanctioned projects OD various aspects of biogas technology. such as alternative THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE building materials, alternative feed'stocks, MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE development of cbeaper/models. microbio)olY (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). of fermentation, etc. While deciding large-scale improvement in tbe Service Conditions of Supreme Court A National Project for Biogas Develop- and }ligh Court Judges, the question of ment (NPBD), which caters to family based increasing their retirement age was not biogas plantst is being cODtioued during agreed to and the decision was deferred. 1986·87 and the budget estimates have been . increased recently from Rs. 59.00 crores to [Translatiohl Rs. 62.50 crores. Separately, a programme for setting up community and institutional Development of Bio.. Gas Plants in biogas plants is also being implemented, Guj"rat for ",bich the budget estimates have been increased from Its. 3.5 crores to Rs. 4.27 1065. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN crores for 1986-87. RAMJIBHAI MAVANI : Will the Minister or ENEROY be pleast"d to state: (c) The number of biogas plants ,installed in Gujarat during different years is (a) whether Government have announced as under: any new programme for development, promotion, research and etablisbment. of bio-gas plants and to provide more financial Year No. of biogas assistance for the purpose and whether uny plants set up steps have been taken in this regard; (b) if so, tbe details thereof; 1981·82 1793' (c) tbe number of bio"gas plants in 1982·83 to Gujarat as on 30th December, 1981 and the 1985 .. 86 23211 number of plants Installed there during 1st January, 1982 to 30th September, 1986 and 1986·87 (upto tbe amount spent on them; Sept., 1986) 4761 (d) the number of bio .. gas plants pro- posed to be installed during 1986-87 and A total sum of Rs. 8.6 crores bas been 1987·88 in Gujarat and other parts of the sanctioned to the State Government of country; and Gujarat during 1981-82 to 1986·87 (upto September, 1986' under the NPBD. (e) whether Government propose to promote bio·gas plants and to set up bio- (d) Under NPBD. State-wise targets are gas plants in each and every home keeping fixed on annual basis. 5000 biogas pJants' in view the shortage of power and repeated are proposed to be installed in the State of power, failures in the country; if so, the Gujarat during 1986-87. The State Govern- details thereof and how it will be impJe· ment of Gujarat has requested for enhance. mented. ment of this target which is under consideration. The national target for ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF 1986-87 is 1.5 Jakh plants . . VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The Department of Non-Conventional Energy (e) The Government is promoting biOla! Sources bas taken up a coordinated and plants on a large scale to supplement both multi-disciplinary "roject on biogas research fuel and manure requirem"nt wberever 104 4ovolopa:p0P' 4\lrios tho Jist tW9 y~re. fe~$ibJe and to tllo e~t,pt pOlljblo sub),,;t to I " . Written Answers JCARTIKA 20, 190B (SAKA) Written Answe,s 86 tbe finaDcial re80urces made available for WiJJ the Minister of INDUSTRY be the purpose. pleased to atate : A tarlot of S.S lakh family biogas plants (a) whether 1.t is a fact that use of baa been fixed for the Seventh Plan period. D.M.T. as raw material for production of The prolramme is beiDI implemented by polyester has become obsolete with the entry State Governments. State Corporate bodies, of P.T.A.; and Kbadi and Village Industries COlllOlission aDd Voluntary Organisations etc. (b) if so, the reasons for ailowiD8 increase in D.M.T. production witb tbe (E"gllsh] import of second band D.M.T. plant by Bombay Dyein& and MaoufactutiDI Quantity of Gas struck In KriShna- Company Limited? Goda.ari Basin and Price aSked for by ONGC THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF· CHEMICALS AND 1066. SHRI D.N. REDDY: PBTRO~CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY SHRI SRIHARI RAO : OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. . JAI· CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) D.M.T. and Will the Minister of PE TROLEUM P. T.A. are alternative raw materials for AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: manufacture of Polyester thouah PTA is a (a) the quantity of gas struck in the later entrant. It is, therefore. not correct to Krishna-Godavari basin and its price asked say that DMT ba>.; become obsolete with tbe for by Oil and Natural Gas Commission; entry of PTA. Besides the proddction of PTA is yet to be established in tbe country. (b) whether there are any difficulties in commissioning this plant to the full extent; (b) Import of second band DMT plant and by MIs. Bombay Dyeing and Manufacluriog Company Ltd. was permitted as per tbe Cc) if !o, the details 1herefor ? policy prevalent at the time of import. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Use of Religious Pjaces for Election THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Propaganda AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA 1068. DR. A.K. PATEL: DUTT) (a) Oil and Natural Gas Commission have struck gas SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: wells at Narsapur /Razol in the Krishna- Will the Minister of LAW AND Godavari basin during the testing period. JUSTICE be pleased to refer to the reply Initially, it is expected to produce gas @ 1.5 aiven to U nstarred Question No. 5839 on 8 lakh cubic meters per day. The price is to April, 1986 regarding ban on use of religious be negotiated by ONGC on a provisional place. for election propaganda and state: basis as government are also considering the question of fixation of prices. (a) the steps taken by Government to implement recommendation of the Election (b) and (c). ONOC are in the process Commission for amendment of tbe of identifying suitable consumers for the gas Representation of the People Act, being produced during extended production 1951 in tbis regard; and testing of the onshore wells, which is (b) whetber a recommendation to this required for assessing the potential of the effect was also made at the moetina of tho gas reserves so as to facilitate long term Standing Committee of National Integration commitments. Council in last August ? Import of D.M.T. Plant by Bombay Dyeing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Manufacturing Co. Ltd. MINJSTR Y OF LA W AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) The 1067. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT : recommendation regarding ban on use of S8RI MANIK REDDY : religious places for election propapnda forms SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: part of the Bet of recommendations made SURI DINBSH GOSWAMI :' by the Election Commission on elcc(oraJ • > &7 Written Answers NOVEMBBR II, 1986 Written Answers lUi reforms and is stil) under consideration. (a) wbetber Government. have any After cOJDpletion of detailed examination centrally sponsored scheme for tbe and formulation of preliminary views, cooperation of tbe coir industry in tbe Government would al60 hold cODsultation country; with political parties before atriving at final decisions. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) Yes, Sir. (c) the amount sanctioned to Kerala for tbis purpose during 1985 .. 86 ? Revision of Drug PoUcy 1069. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAO: DEPARTMBNT OF INDUSTRIAL DR. CHINTA MOHAN: DEVELOrMBNT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS?iy (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (a) Yes, Sir. pleased to state : (b) The centrally sponsored scbeme for (a) whether there is any proposal to the cooperativisation of coir industry which revise the existing drug policy of Govern- is being implemented from the Sixth Plan ment to make it pragmatic and rational one; period envisages financial -assistance to the State Governments in the form of loan and (b) if so, by when; and grant OD matching basis. Tbe assistance (c) the steps being taken to make the provided to the members of coir cooperative drugs cheaper for the common man '1 societies and societies tb~mselves include share capital assistance for the formation of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE new societies and revitalisation of dormant DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND societies, managerial subsidy for appointment PETRO-CHEMICALS IN. THE MINISTRY of paid SecretaryI Business Manager in the OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. lAI- primary coir cooperatives, assistance for CHANDRA SINGH): (a) to (c). The purchase/modernisation/renovation of equip- matter is under active consideration of the ments, looms etc., by the primary coir Government. cooperatives and marketing assistance for Procurement of Life Saving Drugs opening of sales outlet$ for the sale of coir and coir products by the apex coir 1070. SHRI NARSING SURY A- coopera tive societies. WANSHI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state the steps taken so far or (c) Rs. 25.75 lakhs. . proposed to be taken to procure life-saving In8ationary Trends in Elsential drugs which are not readily available in Commodities India? THE l\41NISTER OF STATE IN THE 1072. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE.MINISTRY SUPPLIES be pleased to state: OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- CHANDRA SINGH): The Department of (a) whether consumer price inflation in Chemicals monitors the availability of the country bad any downward trend during Essential and Life Saving medicines in the the current year; and country on the basis of periodical reports (b) the commodity·wise inflationary received from the State Drug Controllers trends in the price situation of essential and the Zonal Offices of Central Drugs commodities ? Standard Control Organisation. As and when reports on shortages of essential drugs THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE are received, neescsary remedial action is MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL taken. SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD) : (a) No, Sir. Cooperatlsation of Coir Industry 1071. SHRI T. BASHBER: Win tbe (b) The information is furnished in the ldinister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: statement liveD below. 8~ Written Answers Written Answers 90 ,....o CI CI 00 Z Z ....s::: o tn N ...- rn ~ .5-- \0 I CIO 00 o ~ c . to") 'taI.- 0 11)"'0- to") '~ ~, or-:cu_ ..0:ftI 8! o i \0 CQ, ..-. '-~(U 0 -.. o ie .c 00 8 ,~'8- ~cu_ ~ ~ 00 , '-t U ~ .. ~ ~ 8 N ~ ;a -o 8 OIl e oC 8 t! o a o ~ t40VBMBl!tt 1.. 19" Written Answers 92- 0 ....c 8 ~ 8 8 ~ 8 8 .,., i ~ 8 8 8 8 ~ aD .,; cori v:S r-: .,.; d ff\ 00 < 0\ ('f\ N ~ Z '" """ ..N. 8 8 8 8 0 8 8 $ i 8 S 8 ~ 8 ~ \l) ~ 00 00 ..... r-: 00 vi ~ N'" ff') r-: d N ...t "" ..... N """ -N o o 8 CI 00 00 o Ci 8 vj g Z «'Ii Z oN o CJ 00 8 Z N '"- o o V) 00 N lit") N- o o o 00 f"1 8 v;; ..... lit")'" 0\ - ..... o CI ~ CI 8 8 00 Z Z ~ ....: - - N o 8 CI 00 < i 8 00 Z o z -roo: ....00 CII• N W ,...... 0 c -0 -<5 ~ -.,'" ... (5- (5 tJ - :s - ::t ;:.. 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Z Z 3 u u Z ~ .CI ... ~ I -c= -as -u :0 - 0 u d -.c - ." u l""- 0 -u 8 r"'\ 8 c Q .... CI S ~ 8 ~ a = ~ ""f") 0 0 ::s N 0 d - (IJ N ~ ~ Z ...... 00 '" cs :e- "" u 0 .... 'ii i-t as U... - 0 .. ~ ~I ~ 0 oi 0 ... 0 z ,&;) as ... * 0 ~ ..tl .... 8 00 ...... u § u N 0 oD u os. os. ~ ~ ;:J- ..,. ~ Co ~ :e o 'j ~ -(5 ~5] -o ~ ~ ._... 0.0 .... ~ '';: z z o I I I .CI ""CI< Q ~ Z Z t.5 Written Answers NOVBMBBR II, 1986 Written Answers 96 Produ~tloD of Edible Oils soya bean aDd sunflower and 1073. SHRI BflARAT KUMAR exploftation of oilseed. of tree and ODEDRA: forest origin, rice bran etc. SHRI MURLI DEORA : 6. Setting up of necessary processing Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL and infrastructural facilities to keep SUPPLIES be pleased to state: pace with the production programme of oilseeds. . (a)· whether Government have any J)l~n to increase the production of edible oils in 7. Fiscal incentives for increased use tbe country; of non-conventional oils by the vanaspati industry, exemption from (b) if so. details thereof; excise duty jn respect of refined rice brlln, cottonseed and soyabean (c) whetber it is a fact tbat the country oils meant for direct human could not reach the target as per 9chedulci consumption and also for refined and solvent extracted oil. (d) if so. the reasons therefor? (c) The target and actual production of oilseeds during 1984-85 and 1985·86 is as under: THB MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (Qty. in Lakh tonne) AZAD) : (a) and (b). Government bas .--~-~ Year taken a number of measures to increase the Target Production production of oilseeds and oils. The achieved ~ YO. ~ ____ important measures taken ate : ~+- -~. -_ '_- -_. 1984-85 L Implementation of the National 130.00 129.5 Oilseeds Development Project, 1985·86 136.00 covering special project on ground .. 11 I.S nut, rapeseed/mustard, soyabeao and sunflower ~esides intensive (d) The target could Dot be achieved development work on other due to drought conditions. oilseeds. Extraction of Edible on from Cotton 2. State level cooperative oiJseeds growers· federation have been Seeds formed in some States under the 1074. SARI UTTAM RATHOD: Will project for restructuring of Edible tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Oils and Oilseeds production aod SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Marketing through National Dairy Development Board. (a) whether Oov~rnment have studied the feasibility of extracting edibJe oil from 3. Better incentive to producers cotton seeds; and throuab fixation of minimum support prices for oiJseeds at bigher (b) if so, the findings of the study so levels. made? 4. Intensificatian of research efforts THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for increasing the productivity of MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL oilseeds. A technology Mission on SUPPLJES (SHRI GBULAM NABI 0; lseeds bas been set up. AZAD): (a) No specifie study regarding feasjbilit~ of extracting edihle oils from 5. Increase in area under non- cottonseed has been made by the Govern. . (r~d{tionat o~ls~d crop Uke ~ent~ ",owever, the matter tlas been ~~,1~ 9"1 Written .An8Wtrs ICARTIICA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answtrs ~ with in general in the Report of the Study CHATTERJBB: Will tbe Minilter of Group on a LooS Term Edible Oils Plao, ENBRGY be pleased to state : 1978 made by the then Ministry of Commerce, Civil Supplies and Cooperation, (a) the number Of new coal belriol Government of India and also in the Report areas located in the country aince tbe of the Sub Group on Edible Oils for the nationalisation of the coal mine.; Seventh Five Year Plan (1985 .. 90) made by the Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies, (b) what are such loeations; and Government of India in December 1984. (c) tbe steps taken for workios lucb areas? (b) Some of the re~ommendations made in these reports are regarding setting up of THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI new cottonseed processing units in cotton VASANT SATHE) : aod (b). 1,55.901 producing areas, cooperatives being given m. teSt of coal reserves were estimated by the first preference, modernisation of the Geological Survey of India (upto June, vegetable oil industry including cottonseed 1985) as qainst 82,771 m. tes. of coal processing industry, measures to minimise reserves estimated in 1975. Regional and the use of cottonseed as cattle feed. cash detailed exploration taken up by Geoloaical assistance on export of cottonseed extrac- Survey of India bas revealed sizeable coal tions, formulation of a productivity linked reserves in the areas of Talcber. Ib river export policy on a long term basist excise etc. Regional exploration of coal durio, relief on use of solvent extract oils for tbe field session 1985·86 (upto June, 86) direct human consumption, etc. has established existence of coal in lb- river, Talcher, Sohagpur. Ramko)a, Tatapani, Electrification of Villages North Raigarb, Mand Raigarh. Raniganj, Birbhum, East Bokaro, Godavari vaney 1015. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the etc. Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to state: (a) whether rural electrification is one (c) how many villages are expected to Masl Retrenchment of Staff 10 be electrified in Andhra Pradesh by the end Postal Serylces of the Seventh PJan period? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE. 1077. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will tbo DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Minister of COMMUNICATIONS bo MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI pleased to state: SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether the Union Government are (b) Out of a total of 27.221 viJlascs as contemplating mass retrenchment of staff per 1971 census, 23,851 villages. were in postal services; and electrified till 30.9.1986 in the State of Andhra Pradesh. (b) if so, tbe ~etail8 thereof? (c) By tb~ end of Seventh Plan period, all the villages are expected to be electrified THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Andhra Pradesh. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SO.NTOSH MOHAN DEV) : No, New Coal bearlal are•• Sir. '076. SHRI SOMNATti W' W,ttt,,, A",wers . NOV BMBBR., 1t, 1986 Written Answers 100 . Self.... p.or Arematle Pla·D. at ,Be... ba1 Seismic Surveys 45000 LKM Reiner, b, "Dharat Petroleum CorpgratioD Maanetic Survey 39400 LKM , ~t)' Gravity Survey 22800 LKM 1078. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state : (Trandatlon] Allotment of Petro) Pumps to HarlJaDs (a) whether tbe Bharat Petroleum aDd Adlvasls In Claambal, Corporation bas decided to set up an aro- Madhya Pradesh matic .plant at the Bombay Refinery with an iQvcstmoot of aroond Rs. 400· crores; and 1080. SHRl KAMMODI LAL JATAV : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) if 10, wbether Government would cODsider sbiftiDI the project outside Bombay (a) the Dumber of petrol pumps allotted to any otber backward district of Maba- to Scheduled Castes and Adivasis in nsblra consideriDg tbe environmental Chambal Division of Madhya Pradesh problems in Bombay, particularly in durio8 1980 to 1985; and Chembur-Trombay realon where the refinery i. situated ? (b) whether tbe quota of Scheduled Castes and Adivasis is being further THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE enhanced and if so, by what time? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) and (b). A project for production of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND aromatics is already under operation at the NATURAL GAS (SHRi BRAHMA refinery site of Bbarat Petroleum Corpora. DUTT) : (a) Two retail outlets have been tlon Ltd. (BPCL) in Bombay. BPCL have aHotted under the sc/sr category in also submitted for Government approval a Chambal Division of Madhya Pradesh proposal for optimisation of production of between 1980 and 1985. aromatics. (b) The prescribed reservation of 25% in respect of SC/ST is being continued. Sur,ey regardlnl Petroleum and Natural Ga. Resources In Arabian Sea Telepbone and Telegraph Services in Azamgarh . 1079. SHRI G. DEVARAYA NAIK : Witt tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND 1081. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) whether despite the sound of buzzer. no respons to calls made from any corner of Azamgarh is evoked fronl the main Tele- TKB MINISTER OF STATB OF THE pbone Exchange of Azamgarh; and MINIST!lY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS' (SRRI .BRAHMA (c) the steps beiDi taken or being DUTf): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. In Kerat.- contemplated by the Government to improve KODkan-Laksbdweep basin ,he foJlowio8 tbe telephone and tc1esraph servi<;es j~ Nrvtf8 baV' boM *4QQt04 .Q flf ~ ~JIDl... r~ ? 101 Written Answers teAR !rKA 20. 1908 (Sv4KA) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE observatioD of performaace of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATiONS tbeIe 1,1tem8. (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DBV): (a) No. Sir; Communication facilities (vii) Telearapb service at Azamaarh i8 in Azamgarh. Gorakhpur, Basti, satisfactory 8S one SFT port Deoria, Jauopur and Ghazipur district of (terminal) is already available in Uttar Pradesh are quite adequate. Varanasi. (b) No Sir; Due attention is paid to (English] calls received in Main Exchange Azamgarh from Public Can offices and Small Automatic Sbo ftale or Enerl' exchanges parented to this exchange. 1082. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (c) Every possible effort is made to Win tbe Minister of ENBRGY be pleased improve further telephone and telegraph to state: services at Azamgarh . .some of tbe important remedial action being taken are given in the' (a) wbether Government a(e aware that statement below. a number of States are starved of ener,y; Statement (b) tbe present total requirements of enerlY of each State; (i) Ensure proper attention in Azamgarh exchange to calls from all 26 Small Automatic Exchanges (c) how much energy is avai·lable for and 82 long distance public tele- use in each State; and phooes (LDPTs). (d) the steps beins taken by Government (ii) Thers is a proposal to connect to meet tbe shortage of enersy in eacb Azamgarh, Deoria, Jaunpur and State 1 Ghazipur with Varanasi Trunk Automatic exchange (TAX and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Basti with Lucknow TAX) through DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE microwave links after the com- MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI missioning of these TAXs and SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (a> to (e)f A Microwave systems. Statement SiviDS tbe requ·iremeot and availability of power in various States during the month of October 1986 js ...eo (iii) Providing underground cables in in tbe statement below. thickly populated areas 80 as to minimise outdoor faults. (d) The steps taken to improve ahe supply of power include expeditiDI com. (iv) Proper fitting of DPs and subscriber missioniog of new capacity, beCter _aU.tion oOlces. of existing capacity, impJemeDtiD, ahort" gestation projects, reducinl tranamissim 'aod (v) Periodical checks of indoor distribution losses, implementation of eneray equipment. . conservation and demand manlacment measures and arran.inl tranafer of enerl)' (vi) Frequent visit/inspections and from surplus to deficit State.. ' i03 W,'tten Answer, NOVSMBBll, 1i. 198~ Written Answer, 104' StatelDeDt A.ctllfll Po.", SIIppi, POI/lion for Octob,r. 1986 (All fiaurel in MU Net) Region/State/System October, 1986 Requirement Availability Sbortaae (%) Nortbern Region Chaodilarb 34 32 2 5.9 Delhi 46' 465 0 .0 Haryan. S03 421 78 15.4 Himachal Pradesh 79 79 0 .0 Jammu and Kashmir 169 136 33 19.5 Punjab incl. NPF 901 898 3 .3 Rajasthan 640 S69 71 11.1 Uttar Pradesh IS1S 1376 199 12.6 We.tern Realon Gujarat 1450 1381 69 4.8 M.P. 1123 1123 0 .0 Mabarashtra inc). Goa 2540 2449 91 3.6 Southern Reslon Andbra Pradosh 1314 1314 0 .0 Karnataka 1164 900 264 22.7 Kerala 467 461 0 .0 Tamil Nadu 1307 1249 S8 4.4 £a.tern Reaton ft, Bib., 405 280 125 30.9 D.V.C. 61' 512 107 17.3 OriSla 554 461 93 26.8 Weat Benlal 723 622 101 14.0 N .. Ealter. RegioD 107 ·163 7 4.1 All India 16204 14903 1301 8.0 lOS Written Answers KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers lug Holding or Stocks 10 Salt Factories (d) the amounts to be recovered from each city till now? J083. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE' IN THE to state: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (a) whether it is a fact that most of tbe SUSHILA ROHTAGI) (a) to (d). organised salt works (factories) have been' Information with reaard to the dues of tbe forced to bold more than 50 per cent of National Thermal Power Corporation their production as stocks, due to tbe rea .. (NTPC) from the State Electricity Boards sons of sluggish, domestic offtake, decJing (SEBs) located at the metropolitan cities of exports and unremunerative product costs; Calcutta, Bombay and Madras, the amounts and recovered during April·October, 1986 and outstandings as on 31.10.1986, organisatidl'l- (b) if so, the .teps taken by Government wise, is as follows: to save .the industry from crisis 1 (Rs. in crores) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .__ ...... --.. ,~.---.----., .. ------...... -~.---- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY Of Amounts out- Amounts re- INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- standing as on covered (rom CHALAM) : (a) The stock position in 31.10.1986 April, 1986 to Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Qriss·a. West October. 1986 Benial. Karnataka, Maharashtra and to a large extent in Rajasthan is normal. The West Bengal 1.02 0.48 stocks have been comparatively high during SEB the years 1985 and 1986 in Gujarat. This is due to abnormally high production during Maharashtra 10.05 27.54 the years 1985 and 1986. The domestic SED consumption of salt has beeo 00 increase during 1986 as compared to tbe previous Tamil Nadu 4.66 13.72 years. SED -_._- _------._ .. _-_ ... __ .. _._---.. .. _-- ... __._ (b) The target of production for the _ year 1986 was reduced to 80 lakh tannes The NTPC are actively pursuing the recovery against the target of 85 lakh tonnes fixed . of their dues with the State Electricity during the year 1985. The State Trading Boards concerned; the matter is also being Corporation has been requested to explore followed up at Government level to facilitate the possibilities of increasing exports. early realization of outstanding amounts. Amount Due from Metropolitan Cities to Tehri Dam National Tbermal Power Corporation · 1085. SHRI' DINESH SINGH: Will 1084. SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to GOSW AMI: Will the Minister of ENERGY state : be pleased to s~te : (a) whether some ecologists and (a) the amounts due from the scientists have again written to Government metropolitan cities of Calcutta, Bombay and tbat the Tehri Dam. under construction, is Madras electric supply underta"ings, to be unsafe; and recovered by the National Thermal Power Corporati<1n, city-wise details; (b) if so, tbe reaction of Government in this relard ? (b) the efforts made to recover the amount; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (c) the amounts so far recovered city. MINIST~Y OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI wiso; and SUSHILA ROHTAGJ) : (a) aod (b). It i07 Writt.n An'wers baa been represented tbat tbe Tehri project conventional BnerlY Sources. Wjnd site is located in a seismic zone. A mooitorlnl 'projects have also been taken up committee of experts has recently reviewed In six States to provide detailed information the matter and bas concluded tbat adequate for plaoniDglarge wind energy projects. data and studies have been made to arrive at a safe and economic enginetring structure (d) Encouragement aDd assistance in and adequate technic,al expertise is available many forms including literature is beiDI to deal with tbe design and construction of provided towards development and greater the Tebri dam project. utilisation of wind energy. . Harnesslnl of Wind POll'er [ Tran.tl ali0 n J 1086. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI : Con,entlon or Uniform CI,n Code ""'1 tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to 1087. SHRI TARLOCHAN SINGH TUR : state : SHR} BALWANT SINGH RAMOO .. WALIA: (a) the steps taken to construct wind SHRf SYED SHAHABUDDIN : mills from locally available materials like bamboo and wood to harness wind rower Will the Minister of LAW AND and make it attractive and acceptable for JUSTICE be pleased to state : drinking water. live stock, irrigation etC'.; (a) whether attention of Government (b) whether models, pamphlets etc. and has been drawn to tbe decisions taken by various contraptions for producing wind the national convention organised recently power are available at subsidised price and by tbe Bar Council of India to discuss tbe if so. tbe details tbereof; question of a uniform civil code: (c) whether any study bas been done of (b) jf so, what are the decisions and various places in the States where viable wind consensus of tbe convention; and velocity is available and if so, the relevant details; and (c) tbe steps taken by Government in this regard ? (d) w~ether necessary literature drawings and blueprints, assistance will be given to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the people on demand to make utilisation of MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICB wind power a vibrant reality? (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) and (c). Bar Council of India VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Several submitted a report giving some suggestions desi,ns of low cost wind mills fabricated on Uniform Civil Code. These suggestions from locally available materials bave been are of general nature. The views of Bar developed in the country. One sucb low Council would be studied and considered cost wind mill unit called "PoghilU bas been while finalising the draft of tbe Uniform Civil Code. developed at Murugappa Cbeltiar Research Centre, Madras. Tamil Nadu. The wind mill made from locally available materials sucb as wood, bamboo, jute and canvas fabric etc. bal been taken up for field testing J olot Venture, with Cblna in the Ramanatbaporam district of Tamil 1088. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Nadu. SO such units have been provided SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : to beneficiaries at a subsidised price on a trial basis. Pamphlets in local languap Will the Mini8ter of INDUSTR Y be ha ve also been brought out. pleased to state: (c) Yes, Madam. A Handbook ob (a) wbether ChiDa bas shown keen Wind Eneray Data for India bas been interest in settlnl up joint' ventures witb publisbed by tbe Department of Non- Indian firms; aDd 109 Wrlt,ten Answel's KARTIKA 20, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 110 (b) if 10. whether ChiDa ha. a,reed to (b) if so, tbe causes or fire; Indian terms for joint vontura in India ? (c) the estimated los8 incurred: and THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (d) tbe steps taken or being taken to DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF meet tbe demand of power of Oujarat INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- State? CHALAM): (a) and (b). Chinese interest In settin, up joint ventur.! with Indian firms THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bas not come to tbe notice of tbe Govern- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE ment. Such proposals, as and when MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI submitted, will be considered on merits in SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes. Sir. accordance witb tbe policy oJ the Govern- ment. (b) and (c). A committee of experts to investia8te tbe cause of the fire has been set Ne" Wase Structure for Public Sector up' by the Government of Gujarat. Tbe approximate loss suffered bas been estimated 1089. DR. DATTA SAMANT : to be of the order of Rs. one crore.. SHRI R.M. DHOYE : (d) Assistance to the extent possible is Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be being provided by Mabarashtra. Oujarat pleased to state: State also imposed restrictions on various CODsumers. (a) whether Government are considering to draw up a new wage structure for tbe [Trons/ation] public sector linking wages with productivi ty; Settlog up of Po"er House 10 a Rural A rea of Deihl (b) if so, the out1i~e tbereof; and I 1091. SHRI BHARAT SlNGH: Will (c) what is tbe co-ord~Dation between the Minister of ENEROY' be pleased to the existing wages and production ? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Delhi's two power houses DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- are located at Rajghat and Badarpur with PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF power generation capacity of 670 M.W. INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY) : (a) whereas the requirement of power in Delhi and (b). The wage policy for public sector is 8S0 M.W. 8S a result of which rura1 areas enterprises is under consideration of Govern .. do not get full eltctricity; and mente (b) ~ if so, the time by which a third power bouse will be set up in a rural area (c) The present wage structuee is not of Delhi to meet full requirement of power related to production. of small scale industries ? Fire at Vanakborl Thermal Power THE MINISTER OE STATE IN THE Station In Gujarat DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI 1090. SHRI AMARSINH RA.THAWA : SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Major power SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: stations in Delhi are located at Indraprastha power 8ta~ion of DESU (284 MW) and the Win tbe iMinister of ENEROY be Central power Station at Badarpur pleased to state : (720 MW). Thero is no power shortage in Delhi and the rural ar~as are, by and large (a) whether a huge tire broke out at the gettinl their full requirement. Vanakbori tbermal power station in GujBrat durin. the month of September. affecti". (b) The requirement of 6maU sct.le pow,r lupplr i~ ~uj .. rati ind\1stri,s i8 .I~o bcin, met, by ".,d IClf*", 111 Written Answers NOVEMBBR 11, 1986 Written Answtr~' t12 I luth'_ Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE is installing six gas turbine units of 3(), MW MINISTRY OF' PETROLEUM AND each near Indraprastba Station and 2 units NATURAL GAS (SHRJ BRAHMA of 67.5 MW each as replacement units at DUTT): (a) ONGC propose to take up Rajghat. Five gas turbine units have drilling at Nurpur and Jawalamukhi in already been commissioned and sixth unit is Himacbal Pradesh: besides Cheri. where expected to be commissioned shortly. The drilling is already in progress. 67.5 MW units at Rajgbat are expected to be commissioned in 1988-89. (b) So far no. commercia) discovery of oil or gas has been made in Himachal (En, 11.111 Pradesh. Lok Adalats in Delhi Allocation of Edible on to Bihar 1092. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI 1094. DR. GOo. S. RAJ HANS: Will GUPTA: Will tbe Minister of LAW AND the Minister of FOOD AND CJVJL JUSTICE be pleased to state : SUPPLIES be pleased to state the alloca- tion of edible oil made to Bibar. State (a) the number of cases dispo&ed of· by during the year 1985-86 and uptil 1 Octo .. the Lok Adalats in Delhi since these started ber, 1986 ? functioning; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether cases relating to property MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL disputes are also proposed to be taken Ufl SUPPL,IES (SHRI GHULAM NABI by Lok Adaluts; and AZJiD) : During oil year 1985-16 (Nov., 85-0ctober, 86), Bihar has been allocated (c) if so, the details thereof 1 6550 MIs. imported RaD Palm oil against which they have lifted 6074 MTs till THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 25.10.86. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRl H.R. BHARDWAJ): According to Sugg(>stions (or Developmt!nf of Non- the information furnished by the Committee Conventional Sources of Energy for Implementing Legal Aid Schemes: 1095. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANR : (a) Total number of 867 cases have been Will the Minister of ENERGY be pJeased disposed of by the Lok Adalats in Delhi so to stare: far. (8) whether the symposium held at (b) and (c). Cases involving claims of Madurai Kamraj University has rt'ccntJy property are also handled at Lok Adalats made some va1uab1e suggestions about .he when such disputes become possible for development of non-conventional sources of settlement. energy in the C(luntry; Drilling Operations by 'ONGC In (b) if so. the details thereof and Himachal Pradesh whether Government are considering the suggestions, if not, the reasons therefor., 1093. SHRI A.l.V.B. MAHESWARA and RAO: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (c) whether financial assistance is extended state ; by Government to the institutions con- ducting research for tbe deve10pment and (a) the locations where the Oil and use of non-conventional sources of Natural Gas Commission proposes to ent!rgy? undertake drillina operations in Himachal Prade~h; and THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). (h) the results of drilling operations The National Solar Energy Convention $0 far qndertalcen ill aim~c~al Pradesh? 1986 of the Solar Eners), Society of In4t_ 113 Written Answers ICARTIKA 20, 1908 (iii) By and large, demonstration pro- (b) if so, reasons thereof; and jects should be taken up for - indigenously developed technolo- (c) the existing capacity and its gies. In case of import of utilisation during these months? technologies there should be a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE clear policy of accelerating their DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE absorption and for indigenous MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI production. SUSHILA ROHTAGJ) (a) Tho daily M W output (iv) Courses on non-conventional average maximum during energy should be run in lITs September, 1986 and October, 1986 in and Universities. Bihar was 468 MW and 458 MW respec- tive!y. (v) Assistance should be provided to indigenous groups set up to (b) There are various reasons for low evaluate technical performance power generation which include unsatis- and socio-econcmic aspects. A factory performance of tbermal power standing consultative group or stations due to increased unscheduled advisory group should be set up outages, long time taken for maintenance to include representatives of etc. SESI. State nodel agencies. (c) Tbe existing capacity of Bihar is industry, Rand D institutions, IS75 MW comprisiog of 1425 MW tbermal etc. and 150 MW Hydro. The plant load factor (vi) SESI should institute awards of thermal power stations durio. Septem- particularly for young workers ber, 1986 and October, 1986 in Bihar was for original Rand D work, 33.3% and 31.7% respectively as against tbe training, education, essays, national average plant load fa<:tor 9f 51.S" .. ad 52.1% re8'*tivel~~ , ~lC;· ,'. . " l1S Written A.nswers NOVEMBER II, 1986 Written Answers 116 Power Crilis In RaJaetban ex.tend to the industry to expand installed capacity by the end of Seventh Five Year 1097." SHRI RAM SINOH YADAV : Plan? Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (a) whether due to outages ia thermal DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF plant unit, Kota, super thermal plant INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- unit, Singrauli (UP) and shut .. down of CHALAM): (a) No, Sir. first uoit of atomic power plant at Rawat Bbata (Kota) the State of Rajasthan is (b) Does not arise. facing crisis of electricity supply; and (c) With a view to ensure expeditious (b) if so, steps envisaged to meet installation of additional capacity the power requirement of Rajasthan? schemes of expansions and modernisa lion are being encouragtd. Further, to encou- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rage maximisation of production out of the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE existing installed capacities. the level of ENERGY (SHRIMATI MINISTRY OF. levy obligation has b~en reducf."d in relation SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) The power to production beyond 100% and upto requirement of Rajasthan are met from 125% of the licemed capacity. The levy ItI own geoeration at Kota (Tbermal) obligatien on the old units on production and Mahi Bajaj Sagar (Hydro) and its beyond 100% is at the ra te of 45% (as share in DBMB system, Chambal.Satpura against the normal level of 60%) and for system and the Centra' Sector Singrauli new units it is at the rate of 30% of pro- STPS. besides, utilising tbe entire output duction beyond 100%, (as against the norma) from the Central Sector Rajasthan atomic level of 40%. Further. the cement factor ies power station (RAPS). The power shortage using DO Sets ar~ provided relief at the in Rajasthan during Octocer, 1986 was rate of 26% of their proonction from power about 11%. generated from DG Sets installed after 28th February, 1982. (b) In order to mitigate the shortage, assistance to the extent possible is rendered Setting up of ('ooking Gus Industry in to Rajasthaa from BBMB system, singrauli Assam STPS and Chambal-Sat pura complex. 1099. SHRI BHADRESWAR Incentives to new Cement Uolts to expand TANTI: \V,1l th~ Minister of PETRO- capacity LEUM AND NATlJRAL GAS be pleased to state: 1098. SURI SRIBALLAV PANI· GRAHl: (a) whether Government propose to SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: pipe out the natural gas from Assam and SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : to set up cooking gas industry outside the SHRI H.B. PATIL : State; Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be (b) if so, the rea sons thereof; pleased to state : (c) whether Assam Government have (a) whether Government have decided demanded setting up of such industry in to exempt new cement units from the Assam itse.Jf; and obligations of supplying levy cement to Government agencies; (d) if so, the reaction of Government thereto? (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) the details regardiDg other incen- NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM~ live. w~icl:l Govor~m,~~ ~~ve de~i4~ (b) to (d). Does not arise. of chemicals. the need to encouraae invest- ment in safety etc. Suggestion of Expert Group for Setting up Ceo'raJ Body on Chernlcal. in- Proposals to eolarle scope of ((hadl and volving Health I'lazards Village Industries Commission 1100. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will 110(. SHRI BANWARI LAL the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to PUROHIT: state : SHRI MUKUL WASNIK: (a) whether a meeting was held in Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be August 1986 of an inter-ministerial group pleased to state : dealing with chemicals which involve (a) whether there is a proposal under health hazards; the consideration of Government to enlarge the scope of operations of the Kbadi and (h) whether tile expert group suggest- Village Industries Commission in tbe Dear ed setting up of a Central body for the future; purpose and if so, the reaction of Govern- ment 1hereto; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (c) tbe details l)f other suggestions (c) the details of amendments proposed made regrHding preventive measures for to be made in the KVle Act; and safety of twatll of workers employed in both private and public sector industry Cd) to what extent the rural people in units? the country will be benefited as a result tbereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND THE MINIST.ER OF STATE IN THB PEl RO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL OF INDUSTRY (SHRJ R. K. JAI- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF CHANDRA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. INDUSTRY (SHRJ M. ARUNA- CHALAM) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. By (b) Yes, Sir. The Inter-Ministerial enlarging the scope of operations of the Group appointed hy the Government for Khadi and Village Industrks CommissioD. the purpose of evolving guidelines and Iural industrialisation and employment will recommendations for safety based on be promoted. observations relating to existing practices have, inter alia. recommended setting up (c) and (d). The proposals are still of a nat ional nope) agency which could be under formulatinn. called 'National Board on Industrial Safety and Hazards". No decision has so far been UpgradatJoD of AgartaJa and Impbal taken on this recommendation. Head Post and Telepgrapb Offices (c) The Inter .. Ministcrial Group has 1103. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will' the evolved specific guidelines and also made Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be general suggestions for ensuring safety in pleased to state : chemicals and petro-chemical units. These guidelines provide a check-list ransing from (a) whether tbere is an), proposal to safety audit of ~~uch unils, to ensure not upgrade the Agartala Head Post and only their safe operption but also to pro- TeJesrapb Office and Imphal Head Post vide for personnel safety to the checks and Telegraph Office to the a8zeted necessary even at the desisn stage. The status; general suggestions made in the report emphasise the need for safety training (b) if so, t.be time by which It will be programmes, multi-disciplinary in-bouse done; and 5afety units, the need to conform to specified guidelines OD transportation and disposal (c) if not. the realODS thereof? 1i9 Written Answers NOVBMBBR 11. 1986 Written Answers 120 Furtller Collabo ratioo for Pa.seaaer (b) No now units are planned for the Car ProductioD VIl Plan. Manufacturing facilities for gas turbines, nuclea r steam generator, etc., are 1108. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Will being set up in tbe existing unit!. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Procurement of Rice in Andbra Pradesh (a) wb"ther Government are considering 1110. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA to permit further collaborations for MURTY: Will the Minister of FOOD passenger car production; and AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pJeased to state: (b) if so, the reasons therefor, parti- cularly in view of restricted domestic (a) whetber Government have decided market and bleak expurt prospects? not to procure rice from Andbra Pradash during tbe coming rice marketing season THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ill view of the drought and floods there; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) whether any request of similar INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- nature was received from tbat State CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The matter is Government by tbe Centre; aDd under consideration of the GlIvernment as a part of tbe new automobile policy to be (c) the normal procurement target for formulated. Andbra Pradesh and how much of it is released back to tbe State for public Expansion Plan of BHEL distribution system ? 1109. SllRl SRIHARI RAO : Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL stale: SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NAB) AZAD) : (a) and (b). No. Sir. (a) the measures being takell for modernisation and renovation of manu- (c) There arc no targets for procure- facturing facilities in Bharat Heavy Electri- ment of foodgrains. The quantities of rice cals Limited; and procured in and allotted to Andbra Pradesh, since 1984-85, are as follows: (b) whether any plans have been (in lakh tonnes) formulated for further expansion of the BHEL and if so, the details thereof? Year Procurement AJlotmeot THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Oct.-Sept.) (Rice includ- DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- ins paddy in PRISES IN THE M INISTR Y OF terms of rice) INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K.. TBWARY): --"--'_ '-"'''_ (a) Tho measures are being taken following 1984·85 17.89 10.60 for modernisation and renovation of manu- facturing facilities in BHEL : 1985·86 15.72 1l.60 (i) Reconditioning of existing machine 1986·87 0.01 2.35 tools. (as on (Oct. and 4.11.86) Nov. '86) (ii) Installation of features like numerical control/computer:ised --- numerical control and digital read .. Joint Venture for LPG E.ltracUOD out systems. .Facilities (iii) Installation of high-tech measuring tIll. SHRI SIMON TIOGA: wm th(~ instruments for quanlity improve .. Minister of PETROLEUM AN L> toeDt. NATURA:t, OAS be pleased to state: i23 Written Answers Written Answers 124 (a) wbether Government are cxploriol AccordiDI to Economic Census 1980, the the possibilities of setting up joint venture number of industries was 6 million which between the Gas Authority of India Limited excluded the number of maDufacturing and private parties for providing LPG industries in A~sam where the Ceosus was extraction facilities; and not conducted. These two sets of fiaures are not comparable because of methodological (b) if so, details thereof? differences as given below : (i) Wbile the figure of 8.8 million is THE MINISTElt OF STAlE OF THB based on sample surveys of self- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND employed households in non- NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA agricultural enterprises, the figure DUTT) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The of 6 million is based on Census of Government ar~ exploring the possibility of enterprises identified during tbe setting up joint sector enterprises for house-listing operations for the extraclion of LPG and other fractions, like 1981 Population Census with propane, at suitable locations along the HBJ reference to the purposes for which gas pipeline. the Census "bouse" is used. NUDlber or Industries in the Country (il) Tbe length of the survey period was complete one year for tbe 1112. PROF. MADHU DANDAVA'lE; 29th Round while tbe survey period Will tbe Minister of INDUS rH. Y be plea~ed for 1980 economic census was very to state: much truncated; on an average 3 to 4 months in each State. This (a) whether the National Sample Survey longer survey period in the 29th Organisation reported 8.8 million industnes Round may have had greater in the countl)' in 1973 .. 74; chances of netting more manu- facturing enterprises than Economic (b) whetbet· Economic Census of 1980 Census 1980; mentions the number as 6 million; (iii) For ECODCJl1lic Census 1980, enter- (c) wbether tbe statistics published by prises which work on a fairly the L>evelopment Commissioner, Small ScaJe regular basis alone were considered Industries in 1985 mentions the number of while in the sample survey house .. industrie5 as 1.2 million of which b lakhs hold having at least one member are recorded; and self .. employed in enterpreneurial activity for at least 30 days durinK the Jast 365 days preceding tbe date (d) if so, the correct number of indus- of the flurvey was considered as a tries in the country and their distribution 1 household enterprise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (iv) In view of the definition of house- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- bold enterprises followed for tbe LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF sample survey, it would attract INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): more number of enterprises than (a) and (b). According to the information revealed by tbe Census. furnished by CSO tbe number of 8.8 million industries in the country referred to in part (c) and (d). The estimated number of (a) of tbe question relates to the year 1974- Small Industries Development Organisation 75 and not for j 973-74. Tbis number (8IDO) units as at the end of December relates to tbose industries which were 1985 was 13.53 lakbs out of which 8.S3 lakb engaged in the manufacturing precess and units were registered with the State/UT Dot registered under section 2M (1) and DlIectorate~ of Industries. 2M (II) of the Factolic~ Act, 1948. Further, Autonomy to Public Sector Undertakings this is based on the sample survey of self· en1i\tn:·l'd households in non· agricultural 1113. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Will tl1l"rpfl~es in NSS 29th Round (July 1974" tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased June 1975). to state: - 125 Written Answers KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written An.rwers 126 (a) whether it is a fact that Oovernment of project scbemes and second band plants had taken a decision to streamline the to boost domestic industry; functioning and improve the performance e,f the Steel Authority of India Limited by (c) whether those facilities were misused aranting it more autonomy; and by some parties; and (b) if I!D, whether Government are (d) if so, the details of such parties and considering to introduce tbe same system in action taken against them ? other Public Sector Undertakings? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- DE1,)ARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): CHALAM) : (a) Various measures have (al Yes, Sir. been taken for continued growth;n produc- tion of capita] goods industries. These (b) Introduction of the same system in include enhancing their capabilities to face other Public Sector Undertakings wou1d international competition through suitable depend upon the merits of each case. changes in industrial and fiscal policies, encouraging schemes of modernisation and Setting up of Power Finanre Corporation technology upgradation and providing assistance for -adequate availability of inputs. 1114. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA Inter-Ministerial consultations are also REDDY: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY taking place at various levels for initin ting be pJeased to state: further measures. (a) whether t here is any proposal to set (h) Tbe import of second hand plants up a Power Finance Corporation; and under the normal circumstances is not being recommended in case a new plant of similar (b) if so. the causes for delay in setting capacity and specifications can be produced up of Power Finance Corporation leadin8 to by indigenous manufacturers. delay in financing the major power projects in the country? (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Does not arise. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Expansion Plan by Marllti Udyog Ltd. SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). The proposal to set up a Power Finance 1116. SHRIMATI N. P. JHANSI Corporation bas approved by been Govern- LAKSHMI: ment and the Corporation has been incorporated as a Public Limited Company SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA with its headquarters at New Delhi. Selection NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: of the Chief Executive is to be made SHRI V. SOBHANADREE- shortly. SWARA RAO : SHRI KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Steps to Boost Domestic Capital Goods Indu,try Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be 1115. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will pleased to state : the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (8) the total amount of deposits for Maruti Car bookings made so far; (a) the details of Government's proposals to boost domestic capital goods (b) tbe number of cars booked and the industry; capacity of tbe Maruti Udyog Limited to meet the increasins demand for M IJ r ut~ (b) tbelr experi,nc~ of t~e liberal import C.rs~ 127 Written A.nswers NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Written Answ,rs 128 (c) whether there are any future expan- INDUSTRY (PROP. K.K. TBWARY): sion plans by Maruti Udyog Limited to (a) and (b). Information is being collected produce more cars; and and would be placed on the Table of the House. (d) if so, the details tbereof ? (c) Public Ent.erprises which derive not THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB less tban 20% of their gross income from DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- sales and/or services in compotition with the PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF private sector establishments come within INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): the purview of Payment of Bonus Act and (a) and (b). In 1983. Maruti Udyog Ltd. as such are liable to disburse bonus in booked 121, 421 cars and collected Rs. accordance with the provisions of the 121.421 crores as deposits. In 1984. bookings Payment of Bonus Act. The enterprises which were made for the deluxe car against do not satisfy this criteria laid down in foreign exchange and 8,657 cars were booked section 20 of the Payment of Bonus Act, and Rs. 8 657 were collected as crOTes have been authorised by the Government deposits. In 1986, bookings were made for on year to year basis to pay ex-gratia to handicapped persons and 1,705 cars were their employees on the same basis as if the booked and Rs. 1,705 crores were collected provisions of the Payment of Bonus Act as deposits. Currently, bookings are in were applicable to them. progress for tbe standard model of the Maruti car. This booking closes on the 8th [English] of November, 1986 and data regarding the number of bookings are well as amount conected would be known shortly thereafter. I mport of Captive Power Plants Equipments for lise in Karnataka Maruti Udyog Ltd. has produced 80,300 cars and has the capacity to meet tbe 1118. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: bookings within a reasonable period of Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be time. pleased to state: (c) and (d). Maruti Udyog Ltd. could, (a) whether Karnataka Government has depending upon market demand, increase requested for the grant of import licence production of cars to about 75,000 a year. for captive power plant equipments to tide over the acute power shortage; [Translallon] (b) if so, tbe total number of equipments Public Undertakings Incurring Losses required; and 1117. SHRI VILAS MUTTBMWAR : (c) whether approval was given for the SHRI SARFARAZ AHMED; import of captive power plant equipments for the use of Karnataka ? Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (a) tbe names of public sector under- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF takings wbich are run Ding in Josses; INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· CHALAM) : (a) and (b). Karnataka Power (b) the names of the undertakings out Corp..,ration had filed an application for of tbese. in which payment of bonus bas import of 16 Diesel Generating Sets from been made for the year 1985·86; indicating MIs Nissho Iwai. Japan. the amount thereof; and (c) No, Sir. (c) tbe criteria for payment of bonus? [Tran,/al/o"] THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE Loss Suffered by Fel DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- PltISES l~ T.~~ MIN~STR" 9f 1119. SHRI MAHENDRA SINO" KARTlItA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 Win tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL three years on account of theft, spoilale of SUPPLIES be pleased to state: rood,tains and other reasoos; and (c) the number of esses in which <8> the total loss incurred by Food responsibility for loss bas been fixed and tbe Corporation of India duriug the laat tbree number of lui It, persons punisbed -I' year. and tbe steps taken by Government to THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB check the increasiDI losses; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (b) the 108s suire red by Food AZAD) : (a) Tbe details of the total loss CorporatioD of India during each of the last are as under : (Qty. in lakh M.T.) Year Turnover Quantity of loss Percentage of loss (Purchase +Sales) to turn over 1983·84 319.00 6.74 2.11 1984 .. 85 29S.14 5.72 1.94 1985-86 368.40 5.95 1.62 A number of steps are taken to reduce Josses including augmentation of covered Year Qty. (M.T.) Value storage capacity, reducing CAP storage (Rs. lakhs) (cover and plinth). better preservation, -.- .. ~~,,~ -...... --- .... ~ ....-..,. scientific storage, adoption of strict quality control measures, 100% weighment, at 1983-84 50S 9.22 handling stages to the extent possible, reduction in quantum of filling, machine 1984-85 293 6.28 stitching of bags and effective supervision a,nd surprise checks. 1985·86 401 8.43 (b) Loss on account of tbeft! pilferage bas been as under : Tbe details of foodgrains damaged are as under : (Qty. in Lakb M.Ts.) (Value in Rs. Crores) Year Qty. of foodarains Value after deducting Average stock bolding %age of transferred from realisable value of foodarains by FCI damages sound to damaged to average foodgrains stock holding 1982·83 0.48 3.26 96.02 0.50 1983·84 1.01 9.95 118.85 0.85 1984·85 0.65 7.77 163.15 0.40 ------___ NOVBMBER 11, 1986 Written Answers. 132 (c) Tbe data relardiog officials penalised wbo have been penalised under minor due to tbeir responsibility for losses is not penalty and major penalty are as fonows : i separately available. The details of tbe officials Year Major Penalty Minor Penalty To(al 1984 214 442 656 ttl,f,.. ' 1985 430 348 778 1986 341 326 667 tUpto 9/S6} [Englllh) (b) if so, the names of the companies inviting investments in tree plantations and Revival or Sick Industries In West Bengal the terms offered by them; 1120. KUMARI MAMATA BANER- (c) the estimated amount collected by JBB : WiU the Minister of INDUSTRY be these companies so far; p1eased to state : (a) whetber it is a fact that during his (d) whether such activities of tbe last visit to West Bengal, tbe Prime Minister companies are considered to be unfair trade practices under the MRTP Act; and had assured that tbe sick industries in the State will be nationaUsed or revived on tbe specific recommcndations of the State (e) if so, the steps taken/proposed to be Government; taken by Government if' the matter? (b) if 80. whether aoy list of sick THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE industries or any recommendation in relation DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL thereto bas been received from the State DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Government by bis Ministry; an'i INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA ... CHALAM) : (a) to (e). Government does (c) if so. the details tbereof ? not have information regarding the various compallies which may \"le inviting public THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE investments in tree pJan1ations. However, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL the MRTP Commission has instituted two DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF inquIries, namely, (i) Unfair . Trade INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- Practices Enquiry No. 109 of 1986 against CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. M/s. Marudhar Services Ltd.~ New Delhi; and (ii) Unfair Trade Practices Enquiry (b) and (c), Do not arise. No. 170 of 1986 against M/s. Asian Townsville Farms Ltd., New Delhi, for Industries lovltlDg Investment 10 Tree issuing advertiscments making misleading Plantation and taU claims faning within the meaning of Unfair Trade Practices undtr Section 36A 1121. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI of the MRTP Act. In the first case, the KHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Commission has passed final orders directing be pleased to state : the company not to repeat the Ilnfair trade practice in the shape of an advertisement, (8) whetber it is a fact tbat a number of while in the second case an injunction order iodustries in the country are inviting specific restraining the company from issuing amount of investment in tbe tree plantation mis'eading advertisements and brochures bafS IQd otforio, at~rac'ivo tonD'i \)e.en passed by the Com~issf9~~ 133 Written Answers KAR.TtKA 20. J908 (SAKA) Written Answers Ii. Convention on Small Scale Indu.tries coal and ulinl the same in place of oil for In Deihl warm-up aDd stabilization of the coal flame in.2 X 60 MW boilers at Eonore Thermal 1122. SHRI YASHWANTRAO Power Station in Tamil Nadu State was GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of evaluated and sanctioned by Government In INDUSTRY be pleased to state: June 1982. The project, executed by Bbarat Heavy Electrical! Ltd., is likely to be (a) whether convention on Small Scale completed by tbe end of 1986 .. 87. BHEL Industries was held in Delhi in Sept.ember, is also evaluatin8 the techoo-economic- 1986 and was addressed by tbe Union feasibility of power generation usioa Ministers; pressurized gasification systems based 00 coal. (b) if so, the details of the assurances given to the Small Scale Extension of Jurisdiction of Pana)1 Bench Industries for tbeir development; and of Bombay Hfgb Court Cc) the follow-up action taken thereon? 1124. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK. : Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether there is any proposal for INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. the extension of tbe jurisdiction of the CHALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. A National Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court; Convention on Small Scale Industries was organised by the Federation of Associations aDd of Small Industries of India in Delhi on the (b) if so, the details thereof? 17th September, 1986 and it was addressed by the Prime Minister. Union Minister for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Industry, Union· Minister of State for MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Finance ·and Union Minister of State for (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) No, Sir. Labour. (b) Does not arise. (b) Continued support to the develop- ment of small scale industries was assured. Expert Groups to Survey Chemical Unit, Cc) It is a continuous exercise. I t25. DR. G. VIJAY A RAMA RAO : SHRI MANJK REDDY: Production of Gas out of Coal Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be 1123. SURI G. BHOOPATHY: Will ple&sed to state: the Minister of BNERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether six expert ,roups were sel up to survey and inspect individual chemicat (a) whether any project for producing units in tbe public and private &ector as gas out of coal and for use of such gas in reported in tbe t:f.conomic Times' of 20th the thermal power stations has been October, 1986; evaluated; and (b) if so, whether this work hal beeD (b) jf so, the details thereof? completed and tbe results of tbis exercise; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (c) whether the inspection also included MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI pesticide units ? SUSHILA ROHTAOJ) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) A research and development project DBPARTMBNT OF CHEMICALS AND for producins low calorific value gas from PETRO·CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY , , \ ISS Wrlttttn Answers NOVBMBBR 11. 1986 Wrltt,n A."swers 136 OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI. (b) if so, the reaction of Union Govern- CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. ment to the resolutions passed and speeches made at tho above convention? (b) Yes, Sir. The finttl report is with Govornment for further actioD. THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE DEPARTMBNT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (c) Yes, Sir. PRISES IN THB MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TBWARI): <8> Sbortage of on and 011 Products and (b). Information is not readily available. It is being collected and will be 1126. SURI KAMLA PRASAD !aid on the Table of the House. SINGH : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATVRAL GAS be pleased to state : S.T .D. Serflce 10 Baroda (a) wbether the country is to face acute 1128. SHRI RANJITSINOH OAEK- ahorteae of oil and oil products in 2000 AD WAD: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- and tbe dependency on foreign sources will CATIONS bo pleased to state : increase substantially; (a) whether there is any proposal to (b) if so, wbetber Government have done provide STD service between Baroda and any lona term planning to meet tbe otber cities in tbe country duriol the chaUenae; an d Seventh Five Year Plan period; and (c) if 80, details thereof 1 (b) if so, tbe details thereof '1 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) and DUTI) : (a) to (c). Oil Exploration beiDg (b). STD service is already available bet- probablistic in natul"e. it is difficult to say ween Baroda and a larae Dumber of cities with any certainly what degree of self in the country tbrough Trunk Automatic sufficiency would be attained by 2000 AD. Exehanae (TAX) network. For outgoing However. some of tbe steps taken to increase STD cans; Baroda is connected to TAX, the production of Crude Oil in tbe country Ahmedabad. Baroda can be accessed for include intensification of exploration, use of incoming STD calls through TAXs at enhanced recovery techniques. induction of Ahmedabad and Bombay. To the present advanced technology and conservation 350 statioDs including Baroda baving measures to curb consumption perspective National Subscriber diallJnl facility through plans for 20 years upto 2005 AD envisaging TAX network. about 250 more stations are a production of 100 MMT by 2005 AD is likely to be added during the remaining allo being prepared by tbo Oil and Natural period of 7th plaD OD the expansion of tbe Gas Commission. TRX network. A digital electronic TAX of 2080-00e capacity is likely to be commis- All India Convention of UoioD Public sioned in Baroda in 1989·90. Sector Employees [ Translation1 1127. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Cales of Tbeft aDd Leakale in Khadl Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased· Gramod,ol auwaa, New Dellal to state: 1129. SHR.lMATI VIDYAVATI CHATUR. (a) whether an All India convention of VEDI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY employees of Centra) Public Sector Under- be pleased to refer to the reply liven to tuinss was coovened in New Delbi on 21st Unatarred Question No. 3686 on 16.3.1981 October, 1986 to cbalk out a plan of action regarding theft and leakaae in Khadi to oppose measures which in tbeir view have Oramodyo.· Bbawln, New Delbi and diluted tbe role of public sector; aDd atate : , . 131 Writt6n Answers XARTIKA 20, 1901 (SAKA) Written- Answers 138 (8) tbe outcome of the enquiry into the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cases relatiDS to Kbadi Oramodyol Bhawan, DEPARTMBNT OF INDUSTRIAL New Delhi whicb were under investiga- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF tion; INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· CHALAM) : (a) The action taken in regard to cases of theft and leagage as on 16.3.1981 (b) tbe number of fresh cases of tbeft is given below in statement·l. aDd leak.aae which came to light from April, 1981 to March, 1986 and whether tbe (b) and (c). Showing tbe number of Department has taken any action thereon; cases of theft and leakage during tbe period and April. 1981 to March. 1986 and the action taken thereon is given below in statement· (c) if so, tbe details thereof? II. Statement.. I Statement ,how;ng the outcome of the inqiJlry into the co.e, o/Ihefl and leakage. a, on 16.3.1981 relating 10 Khadi Gramodyog Bhuwan, New Delhi. which Were under 'n~estlgatlon S1.No. Month and Year Article Action taken involved 1 2 3 4 ""-... ~~" ---- ... --~-- .... -. -.,.....'~- ... ~.~' ...'---,------...... ------~_. .... --,-.-.------.. ------~.---- 1. January, 1978 Silk Saree Persons workins on the counter have been charge .. sheeted. Khadi Oramodyog Dbawan has suagested the Commission to write off- the amount involved. 2. August, 1978 Three Printed The culprit was caught red-banded. F.I.R. Silk Sarees lodged vide No. 1075 dated 7.S.78. The case is still ponding in the Court. 3. June, 1979 Silk goods Departmental enquiry ,was held against. the staff concerned and negligence was proved. The staff concerned were penalised vide letter No. MKT/l/9/82/BH dated 13/17.1.83. Accordingly. a sum of Rs. 2896.80 bas been recovered from Shri Kamlapatti Tewari, Incbarse and Rs. 1482.00 from Shri LeeJa Dhar Joshi, Driver, as penalty imposed by tbe Commission. The remainiol amouot involved is to be written off. 4. October. 1979 :Silk Saree"'} The amount has been written off vide ~ sanc.tion letter No. MKT/l/19/82-Bb. dated 5. November, 1979 Silk SarceJ 21.83. 6. November. 1979 Silk goods Departmental enquiry was conducted and tbe amount bas since been recovered from tbe staff found luilty. 7. November. 1979 Silk Saree Departmental enquiry aaainst staff' working on the counter bas been initiatod. Bhavan I Writte,fAnswers Written Answers 140 1 2 3 4 bas sUlicsted tbe Commission to write off tbo amount involved. 8. October, 1980 Silk Sarce The amount bas been written off vide sanction letter No. MKT/l/19/82-Bb dated 2.1.83. 9. December, 1980 Silk Saree One lady was cauaht red-hended while stealing t!le silk saree. Sbe was handed over to Police and was convicted on 29.10.82 by the Court. 10. January. 1981 Seven Silk F.I.R. was lodged with tbe Police. The Sarees departmental enquiry bas been completed and the persons workins on the counter found negligent a,nd tbe loss wi]) be recovered from tbem. Statement·II Iktails 0/21 cales 0/ Theft/Leakages In Khodi Oramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi, which came 10 light ,juring the period from April. 1981 10 March. 1986 Item Number of cases Number of item Action taken Involved ._----_._------_._--- Silk Sarees 16 36 In 8 cases, individual responsibility could not be fixed as 'these relate to sbop lifting during Gandbi Jayanti Special' Rebate period. In 5 cases, Departmental inquiry is under process. In the remaining 3 cases, tbe amounts have been recommonded tor written off, Woolen 3 3 In one case, Departmental inquiry is under Sbawl/Cbadar process. Of the remaining 2 cases, the persons were caught red .. handed and one case is pending with tbe police while the other is in the Court. Excess cloth 1 Warning has been issued to the Salesman and billed by cloth has been takeo back. Salseman Misappropriation 1 Involving F .LR. lodged with tbe police. Charge- of cash by one Rs. 67,410.18 sheet bas been issued. Departmental enquiry of tbe employees bas been finalised and staff concerned dis- missed from service in April. 1986. A little over Rs. 30,000 bas becD recovered. 141 Written ~nswer8 KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 Settlnl up of Ga.-baled unit or Cooklnl the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL G•• unit In Jbabua, Madhya Pradesh SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1130. SHRI DILEEP SINOH DHURIA WiJl the Minister of (a) the amouDt liven to Orissa Govern- PETROLEUM ANI;> NATURAL GAS be ment as soft loaD and other grants to open pleased to state : fair price sbops for distribution of essential commodities tbrousb co-operative sector, (c) if so, the action being taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government in this regard ? MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND AZAD): (8) to (c). Under the Centrally to NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Sponsored Schemes, assistance State DUTT): (a) The HBl Pipeline is passing Governments is giveD for promoting cooperative consumer movement in urban through Jhabua district of Madbya and rural areas. purpose of this Pradesh. The financial assistance is to enable the (b) and (c). The Government arc consumers' cooperative societies to deal wUb exploring tbe p05sibility of setting up joint large veriety of essential mass consumption sector enterprises for extraction of LPG goods and sell tbem at reasonable prices to and other fractions, like propane, at tbe consumers. No separate assistance is suitable locations along the HBl gas pipe- given to such societies for opening fair ·line. price shops. Some of the societies may, however, be baving fair price shops also. (English] Under the Centrally Sponsored Schemes for development of consumers' cooperatives in FJoancial Assistance for Fair Pr'('e urbad areas as well as in rural areas• sbops In Orilsa assistance bas been provided to the Govern- ment of Orissa as follows : 1131. SHRI SOMNATH RATH Will (Rs. in lakhs) _"------Year Por Urban areas For rural areas Loan Grants Total Loans 1983·84 10.625 0.575 11.200 4.100 1984-85 4.490 0.730 5.220 13.900 1985-86 4.590 0.530 5.120 20.650 The State Governments have been advised 30.6.1986, oot of the total number of by the Government of India tbat coopera- 19,555 fair price shops in the Slate of tives should be encouraged to play a larger Orissa, 4,860 wer~ hl (~~ ~oopera~ivc; fQ,C: in openiDf of fair pri~ ,bops~ f.s ~n ~~tQr, 143 Written Answers NOVBMBBR 11.1986 Written Answers 144 Prop08al to set up a Polyester Filament in April 1986 for issue of an industrial Yarn Project 10 Cuttatk In Orls.a licence for setting up of a· new undertaking in Cuttack District (Orissa) for manufacture 1132. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- of 50,000 tODnes/annum of Terepbtbalic NAIK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Acid. The application bas been rejected. be pleased to state: Proposal to set up . Chemical Complex (a) whether Government have a propo- at Chbatrapur In Orilla sal to set up a Polyester Filament Yarn project in Cuttack district in Orissa; 1134. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- NAIK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (b) if so, the capacity or that project; be pleased to state : (c) whether the letter of intent has been (a) whether Government have a propo- issued to tbe concerned private company; sal to set up a Cbemical Complex at and Cbbatrapur in Orissa; (d) if not. tbe reasons .tberefor ? (b) tf so, when such proposal is going to be implemented; and THE MIN1STBR OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (c) the steps taken to expedite the PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY setting up of Chemical Complex at ebhatra- OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. lAI- pur in orissa? CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'CHB (b) 15,000 TPA. DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY (c) Yes, Sir. OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. lAI- CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The (d) Does not arise. Central Government bas no proposal to set up a chemicals complex at Cbhatrapur in Setting up of Terephaleic Acid Project Orissa. However, MIs. Reliance Steels In Cuttack in Orissa Limited has been granted a letter of intent for establishing a new industrial undertaking 1133. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. at Chbatrapur in Distt. Ganjam in Orissa NAIK : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY for the manufacture of 20,000 tonnes per be pleased to state: annum of Titanium Dioxide Pigment (Rutile Grade). (a) whether tbe Industrial Promotion aod Investment Corporation of Orissa Ltd. Scheme to Increase Power Generatlog have app1ied for grant of a letter of intent Capacity by National Thermal Power for setting up a Terepbaleic Acid Project in Corporation Cuttack district; 1135. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD (b) if so, the steps taken to grant the SETHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be letter of intent; and pleased to state : (c) by which date the above proposal is (a) whether any scheme has been framed expected to be approved ? by the National Thermal Power Corpora- tion to increase the power generating THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE capacity of its projects during the Seventh DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Five Year Plan Period; and PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY (b) if so, the details thereof alongwith OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R K. JAY- the funds earmarked for this. purpose ? CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Industrial Promotion and Investment THB MINISTER. OF STATR IN THE Corporalio~ ~f Qdssa ~imit~d tJa4 appUe4 DePARTMBNT Ofl row~a .N _ T~· 145 Written Alt8Wlrl teAR. TIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 146 MINISTRY OF BNERGY (SHRrMATI (b) the total number of cases approved SUSHI LA ROHTAGI) : aDd (b). for sucb employment dur.ing this period and During tbe Seventh Plan period, the bow many of them bave actually been National Thermal' Power Corportaion employed; and (NTPC) bave planned to instal additional generating capacity of 7990 MW, which (c) tbe likely date by which tbe include 3'00 MW through expansion stages remalnin.g appointments would be made? or the projects, as under : THB MINISTeR OF STATE IN THE Sinlrauli Stage-II 1000 MW MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (2 XSOO MW) J (SHRt SONTOSH MOHAN JlEV): (a) to (c). The information is being coJJected Korba Stale-II IS00 MW and will be placed on the table of tbe Houle. . (3 XSOO MW) Ramaguodam Stage-II 1000 MW Setting up of Petrol/Dle.el Pumps and (2XSOO MW) LPG Agencie. In Himachal Pradesh 1137. PROF. NARAIN CHAND Farakka Stage.I 600 MW PARASHAR: Wiil the Minister of (3 X 200 MW) PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to refer to the reply given to Vindhyachal Stage-I 1260 MW Un starred Question No, 586 on 22 July, (6X210 MW) 1986 re: survey conducted for locating petrol/diesel/LPG agencies in Himachal Riband Stage-I 1000 MW Pradesh and state : (2 X 500 MW) (a) whether the marketing plan for Gas Projects 1630 MW. depend- setting up petrol/diesel pumps and LPG upon -----ing agencies has since been finalised; and Total 7990 MW the site -. ----rating of (b) if so, .the dotails thereof for Himachal the gas Pradesh and tho likely dates by which the turbines. LPG distributorship included in the In addition to tb" above, the NTPC bave marketing ~lan for 1984 .. 85 and 1985·86 initiated action for preparation of FeHsibj. will be sanctioned ? bility Reports in respect of expansioo of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ongoing projects and setting up of new MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND projects. An outlay of Rs. 5559.80 crores NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : has been provided for NTPC schemes in the (a) Marketing Plan for 1986-87 for Seventh PlaQ. setting up of Retail Outlets bas been finalised. The 1986·87 Marketing Plan Employment 08 Compal.lonate Grounds for LPG distributorship has not been In N. W. Telecom. and Postal finalised. Circle 1136. PROF. NARAtN CHAND (b) The followinl two locations for PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of the development of Retail Outlets in COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to Himachal Pradesh have been included in state: tbe Marketing Plan for 1986-87: Himacbat Pradesh, while ODe bas been (bJ if so, whether this approach is commissioned. LOI bas been issued for actually followed in the sanction of pro- another. A re·assessment of tbe economic posals for EDBOs; viability tit tbe remainiog two locations is in band. (c) if so, the names of the proposals which are found justified for opening new LPG AgeDt)' at U.I, Himachal Pradesb Extra Departmental Branch Offices in Himachal Pradesh, Division-wise as on 1138. PROP. NARAIN CHAND date. but which could not be opened on PARASHAR.: Will the Minister of account of the ban on recruitment; and PBTROLEUM AND NATURAL G AS be pleased to state: (d) if not, the reasons for not fo)low- ing this stipulation? (a) whether there has been inordinate delay in the allotment of LPG agency at THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Una in Hlmacbal Pradesh which is one of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS tbe few district headquarters in the State (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) not served by any gas agency thus causing and (b). The concept of grouping of villages great inconvenience to the people; within a radius of 1.5 Kms around the main village in order to mak~ up an (b) if SOt the date on which the aggregate population of ).000 was adopted advertisement for tbh purpose was first by the Department in the case of tribal issued and tbe reasons for delay; and areas and other areas indentified as back- ward in respect of posta1 facilities. In so (c) tbe likely date by which the far as Himachal Pradesh is concernedp a110tment would be made? KinnauT. IJahaul and Spiti and certain tahsils/suh-fahsils in Chamba are treated as THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE triba 1 or backward for purposes of postal MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND development and the population norm NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) ; referred to ahove has been followed in (_> to (c). Finding DO eligible candidate the~e area~. The Planning Commission, in response to the first advertisement which however, i~ not associated with this concept. was released on 23.5.1983 and 26.5.1983 in On the other hand. the recommendation English and Regional newspapers r~spect i- made hy the Working Group on Hilf Area vely, and further finding unsuhabJe the Development Prografli me ((,T the Seventh candidates recommended by the CoUector. five Year Plan is that to begin with at tbe location was teadverthled. Interviews least there mav he a Post Office within have beeD conducted and the final recom- four hours of walking distance or say It, mendation of tbe OSB (North) is awaited. K ms both ways together. Allotment of tbe distributorship will be made thereafter. (c) and (d). On the basis of grouping of villages referred tC' above, the village Opening or Ne" Extra Departmental considered jusHfied for opening of a Post Brancb Offices In Hfmacllal Pradesh Office is Pansai (Chamba). However, new Post Offices are not sanctioned at resent 1139. PROF. NARAIN CHAND for the following reasons: PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to (i) There is a continuing ban on state : creation of posts. (a> whether the population of a group (ii) The question of revision of norms of villages forming a cluster within a for opening of Post Offices in radius of 1.5 Kms. around the main the light of the report of the village is taken into accout while consider- Comm;ttee of Enquiry into the ins tbe proposal for the sanction of an Extra Departmental System and Extra Departmental Branch Offices in the other relevent considerati91'\s has Hill States Uke Himachal Pradesb as been taken up and consequently, ,pproved bf ~be Planllin, Cocn~issiop; ~~e .iusti~ca·t·joll for openin~ C?f 149 Written Answers KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answ~rs ISO new post offices may have to be TelecommuDlcatloal: Fifty telearaph gone ioto afresh. offices and ten telephone excbanges are proposed to be opened in KaJabandi Communication Servicel In Remote District of Orissa duriog the 7tb Five Year Area of Orissa PJan. 1]40. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT- (d) Postal: As tbere is no indication NAIK: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- at present as to when tbe ban on creation CATIONS be pleased to state: of posts may be lifted, it is not possible to indicate at tbis stage as to when more (a) whether Government are aware of post offices may be opened in Kalahandi inadequate communication services in the district. remote and interior areas of Orjssa; Telecommunications: Out of tbe pro- posals as given ill (c) above, teo (b) whether Government have con- tele&raph offices have already been opened, ducted any survey to provide communica- balance would be opened progressively tion facility to the far flung villages like in during the 7th Plan period. district Kalahandi which are' still Jagging behind; Requirement of LPG (c) if so, how many post offices, 1141. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: telegr,\ph oflices and telephone exchanges Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM are proposed to be opened in these villages AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to to bring them in the mainstream of com- state : munications; and (a) the total requirement of LPG in (d) by when these new post offices etc. terms of tonnage as against the production are likely to be opened? at present; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the details of Government schemes 'MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS to increase the production of LPG by (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) expa~diDg the capacity of existing refineries Postal: On the whole, development of and through natural gas separately; postal services in Orissa can be considered to be satisfactory though it is possible that (c) whether it is a fact that still there the services needs to be further extended in are Jakhs of people on waiting Jabts; some of the remote areas. The average area and population served by a post office (d) if so, tbe reaSODS therefor wben in Orissa is 20,60 sq. kms. and 2911 res- there is sufficient production of LPG in tbe pectively. The corresponding indices for country; and the country as a whole are 21.94 sq. kms. and 4748 people. (e) tbe steps being taken by Govern- ment to cover all the applications which are Telecommunications: Yes, Sir. pending for the last three years ? THE MINISTER OF OF THE (b) Postal: Yes, Sir. The postal STATE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND needs of Kalahandi have been assessed. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BkAHMA Tt>lfcommuuications: Yes, Sir. DUTT): (a) The estimated requirement and production of LPG durinS 1986·87 is (c) Postal.. The provisional assess- 1520 thousand tODnes and 1476 tbousand ment is that there may be scope for open- tonnes respectively. ing seven more post offices in the district. These cases may be considered in the light (b) Following projects have been of the norms when the ban on creation of approved to increase the production of posts is lifted. LPG; 151 WrItten AnSW6r, Dumber of steps bave been taten to improve Name of the Project LPG Produc- tbe operatioD and workins of mines io tion capacity Dbarat Cokina Coal Ltd. by introductioD (thousand of mechanisation in tbe existinl mines. Sucb to ones per ateps, inter alia, include reorpnisation of years) existinl mines, opening of new undcl'lround ------_. mines and introduction of mechanised 1. LPG recovery plant at opencast mioiol operations. Hazira (b) to (d). The extent of mechani- 2. Gas Sweetening Condon- 136.25 sation in any mine has to be decided on sate treatment and tbe basis of a detailed study of tbe geo- Sulphur Recovery PaInt minin8 conditions and the overall ccono- at HazUa Phase-! mies of sucb mechanised operations. . 3. Gal Sweetining Condon- 136.2S Names of some of the projects af DCCL sate treatment and in which mechanisation bas been introducedl Sulphur Recovery Plant beina introduced are liven in the statement at Hazira Phase-II below. (c) Ycs. Sir. Statement (d) The existing production of LPG and infrastructur~ for its bottling etc. are s. Name of the Project not adequate to release connections to all No. persons on the waiting list. (e) Apart from augmenting the I 2 availability of LPG through increased production and by imports, thc bottling capacity and the related infrastructure are 1, Sudamdib being expanded. 2. Moonidih Mechanisation undertaken by Bharat CokiDg Coal Limited 3. Katras 1142. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA 4. BOlunia NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will tbo Minister of ENERGY be pleased to s. BburuDaia state : 6. Baaaband XVII Bottom (a) whether tbe Dbarat Coking Coal Ltd. bas taken steps to mecbanise its v. Oolukdib working of the coal mines; (b) if so, the degree and tbe pace of 8. North AmJabad mechanisation undertaken by DCCL 80 far; 9. Dbalsora (c) tbe name of the mines under 10. Murulidih 20/21 Pits operation of Bharat CokioS Coal Ltd., where steps have been taken for mechani- 11. Loyabad X seam sation; and 12. Burraaarb (d) the detail. thereof? 13. Lodna THB MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASA-NT SATHE) : demonstrated by the studies carried out by 1 2 National Productivity Council in a number of industries 00 behalf ot Ioter-Ministerial 15. Badroochak Working Group on Energy CODservation. Steps to implement tbese measures bave to 16. Pootkee Balibari be taken by individual industrial units for wbicb tbey are being guided through 17. OCP Block II pamphlets/booklets etc. circulated by DepU. of Coal, Central Electricity Authority. State 18. New Laikdih Electricity Boards and Petroleum Conservation Research Association. 19. Bansdeopur Proposal to Restrict Free Import of 20. lamunia Polyester Staple Fibre 1144. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: WiJl tbe 21. Bhowerab Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: 22. Damodar (a) whether Government propose to 23. Gutway impose a testrictiOD on tbe free import of polyester staple fibre (PSF); In'ternational Energy Conference (b) if so, the reasons therefor; 1143. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: (c) the authorised PSF production Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to capacity of tbe existing units, bot.h in the state: private and public sectors, and fresh capacity likely to be created during the corrent Plan; (a) whether at the International Bnersy and Conference held· recently. a view was (d) in the case of imposition of expressed that house througb simple keepinJ restriction on imports what measures techniques. 15 per cent to 20 per cent of Government propose to take so tbat the energy can be saved; monopolists in tbe private sector producing PSF do not exploit the consumers by raising (b) whether this view bad come from the price of PSF ? the Indian delegate; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, whether Government agrce DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND with this view and if so, wbat steps have PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY been taken to implement it and the yearly OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- savini it wi 11 make when implemented , CHANDRA SINGH): (a), (b) and (d). Import policy in such cases is determined THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB from time to time baving reaard to demand DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB supply balance etc. This is a continuous MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI process. SUSHI LA ROHTAGI) : Establishment of additional capacity for De.t•• due to Imported Palmoleln which industrial licenccs/letters of intents 011 in Gujarat have been made will depend on the progress of work by entrepreneurs concerned. The 1147. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: gestation period of such projects is normally Will the Minister of FOOD AND CJVIL 3-4 years. SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Repeal of Paper Cootro) Order (a) whether it is a fact that some children were reported to have died in 1145. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will tbe Gujarat in March. 1986 due to consumption Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to refer of food prepared by imported palmoJein to the reply given to Unstarred Question oil; No. 602 on 22 July. 1986 regarding recommendations for scrapping of Paper (b) whether imported edible oil is Control Order and state : supplied by the Centre to the States for distribution under public distribution system; (a) whether Government have since and decided to repeal the Paper Control Ord~r; and (c) if so, whether the Union Government have investigated into the matter and their (b) if so, the reasons therefor and bow findings in tbis regard '1 far it will help the industry to raise production and the consumers to get paper THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at reasonable prices 1 MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPl.IES (SHRI GHULAM NABI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AZAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) The Central Government makes INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· aUocation of imported edible oils to States/ CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. Union Territories for distribution to consumers under the Public Distribution (b) Does not arise. System. The responsibility for further distributinn is of the State Government. Indo.Soviet Cooperation in New Area of Industry (c) The Central Government have kept iri constant touch with the Gujarat Govern- 1146. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will the ment who are enquiring into the matter. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to sta te : Shortage of Acitrom (a) whether there is any proposal for 1149. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: India and Soviet Union to cooperate in a SHRI TARLOCHAN SINGH new area of industry; and TUR: SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI (b) if so, the details thereof 1 KHAN: SHRI JAOANNATH PArT· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NAIK: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- SHRI BALWANT SINGH PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF RAMOO~ALIA INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY) : (a) : and (b). In the continuing effort to seek Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be new areas of production cooperation between please to state : India and the Soviet Union. some new areas were broadly identified by Indo Soviet (a) whether it is Ii fact that there is an W (Hk ing Group on Machine Building and acute shortage of Acitrom, a life saving drUI Production Co-operation. These are in an for persons who have undergone heart exploratory stase. auracf)' for valve replacements; 157 Written Answers KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answen; IS8 (b) if so, tbe reasons therefor and tbe tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to steps being taken to remove the sbortage or state : this life saving drug; and (a) the number of proJects to' be (c) whether Government have received implemented in U.P. with foreign any complaints in this regard and if so, the collaboration, received during the last three action taken thereon ? years; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the details of tbe proposal received DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND and their present position,' proposal-wise; PETRO·CHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI· and CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) Reports on shortage of Achrorn tablets were received (c) whether there has been undue delay from some State Drug Control Authorities in forwarding tbese proposals to the and tbe pubiic. concerned foreign collaboration organi- sations ? (b) and (c). The producer company MIs. S.O. Pharmaceuticals, Baroda have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE informed that there was some r disruption in DEPARTMENT OF JNDUSTRIAL production due to non .. availability of inter- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINJSTRY OF mediates required in the manufacture of the INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- bulk drug. The company has no·w overcome CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The detaBs of all the problems and based on this Ministry's approved foreign collaborations showing the advice, sufficient stocks were rushed to all names of Indian and foreign firms, item of parts of the country. manufacture and nature of collaboration are published on a, monthly basis by the Indian Bonus to Postal Employees Investment Centre as a supplement to its monthly news Jetter. Copies of these 1150. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD ,publications are sent regularly to the ParHa- SING H Wi1I the Minister of ment Library. As a matter of policy, COM MUNJCATIONS be pleased to state: specific information relating to individual proposals pa rticularly in relation to financial (a) whether Government hav~ announced details are not revealed in the public 27 days bonus to all postal employees and interest. 40 days bonus to employees of Department of Telecommunication~; and (c) As per the streamlined procedure of processing foreign collaboration proposals. (b) if so, the reasons for sanctioning every effort is being made to dispose of all less bonus to the postal employees vis ... a-vis the proposals within a period of 60 days. employees of Department of Tele- communications? rEnglish) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Procurement or Paddy (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1152. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL Win the Mini~ter of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) Productivity-linked bonus to the SUPPLIES be pleased to state: empJoyees of the Posta) and Tele- communications Departments . have been (8) whether the Food Corporation of sanctioned on the basis of the formula India is strictly roHowing the prescribed limit applicable to their respective departments. of 18 per cent of moisture content while procuring paddy. particularly in Punjab as [Translati on] done in the last year; and PropoI.ls for foreign collaboration (b) jf not, the reasons therefor 1 In U. Po. THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN lHE l15.. SHR) lIARISfl ~I\WA.T: Will fdINlSTRY OF fOOP ANP CIVI~~ 159 Written Answers NOVBMBER 11. 1986 Written Answers 160 SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI laaport of Edible 011 AZAD)': (a) Yes, Sir. 11 54. PROF. K. V. THOMAS : (b) Does not arise. SHRI YASHWANTRAO OADAKH PATIL: Production and Import of Sugar Will the Minister of FOOD AND 1153. SHRI D.N. REDDY: CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: SHRI BALASAHEB . VIKHE (a) the quantity of edible oil imported PATIL: during the last three years, year .. wise; and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) the action taken to reduce tbe SUPPLIES be pleased to state: import of edible oil and savini in foreign excbange expected. thereby? (8) ",bether there has been any increase r in the sugar production in the country THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE during the year 1985·86 as compared to MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 1984·85; , SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) The Import of edible oil (b) if so, details thereof; during the last three financial years is as under : (c) the estimated production and ------_.. _._---_ .... _---._.. , .. _-_ consumption of sugar in 1986·87; Financial Quantity Value Year imported (Rs. in crores) (d) whether ·it is proposed to import (in )akh tonnes) sugar in 1986-87 and if so, the quantity expected to be imported and the quantity imported upto September. 1986; and 1983-84 14.09 846 (e) whether import of sugar is Jikely to 1984-85 15.85 1309 be stopped in the near future in view of increase in domestic production '1 1985·86 10.80 766 (Provisional) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (b) With a view to inducing farmers to SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI increase the production of oilseeds, Govern- AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. ment bas kept import of edible oils, meant (b) The sugar production during the to bridge the gap between demand and year 1985·86 (October-September) supply of" indigenous edible oils, at the aggregated to 70.03 lakh tonnes (provisional) minimum possible leve1. Various other as against 61.44 lakh tonnes during the year measures have been taken to augment 1984-85. production of edible oils! oilseeds. Consider- able savings in foreign exchange have been· (c) The production and consumption of affected in 1985-86. sugar in 1986-87 season (October. September) is estimated at about 7S lakh tonnes and 85 Demand of Superior Grade Coal )akh tonnes respectively. 1155. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will (d) and (e). A quantity of 5.05 Jakh tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to tonnes (Provisional) of sugar bas been state : imported upto 30th September, 1986 during the financial year 1986-87. In view of the (a) whether on account of massive encouraging trend in sugar production, the industrialisation programme in tho State proposal for further import of sugar, if any, of Orissa, there is a great demand of superior may be considered at the appropriate time grade coal and whether the availability of after taking into account tbe production! tbis grade coal has gone down from 6,37.000 ~o.Qsum.,tiop tren~s (tt) ,,&lotb. Coal IDdia, Limited bas LOPMBNT IN THB MINISTRY OP adequ_tely plaDnN to incroaso tbe produc- INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): tion of luperior ,rade coal in both the (a) to (d). No, Sir. The Steel Autbority of Coalft~ld8 of tbis Statei and India Ltd., (SAIL) were issued a Letter of Intent in AUlust 1984 for settinl up a (0) whether Coal India Limited proposes capacity of 2.14 minion tonnes per annum to earmark additional funds to open new of Slag Cement on split location basis at projects to mine superior arade coal and for Cbilhati (Madhya Pradesh) and Rourkela investment in better saod lathering and (Orissa). It was later-on decided tbat tbls stowinl facilities to increase production in project would be executed by the Cement the ""litina mines ? Corporation of India Limited. However, due to financial constraints, the Cement Corpora- THB MINISmR OF ENERGY (SHRI tion could not go ahead and, tberefore, tbo VASANT SATHB) : (a) to (c). Keeping in Letter of Intent bas since been CAncelled in view ahe iOQreale4 .JD8Dd of su perior grade August, 1986. coal in Orissa, Coal India Limited ha ve plaoned an increase in tbe production of Super Tbermal Power Station In Blbar superior arade coal from the current leve] of about 25 lath tonnes per anoum to 29 lakh 11S7. SHRI VJJOY KUMAR YADAV : tonnes in 89·90 and 36 Jakh tonnes in Will th" Minister of ENERGY be pleased 1994-95. Por achieving tbis steps have to state: been takeD for improvement of production from tbe existina collieries and also to take (a) whether a Super Thermal Power up new projects. The facilities for sand Station is under construction at Biharsbarif gathering and also the saod stowing arrange- in the State of Bihar; ments for tbe existing collieries are also being improved by providing additional (b) the total cost and targetted period inputs. Necessary funds are beiog provided of completion of this scheme; and for undortakiDI improvements in the existing systems as wen as for openiDg up of new (c) bow far and in what way Bibar will projects. benefit from this scheme ? Shifting of cement pJant from Rourke •• THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to Madbya Pradesh DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) No, Sir. 1156. SHRI HARIHAR SORBN : SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : (b) and (c). Does not arise. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Power to Kerala from Rtlmalundam pleased to state: Thermal Station, Andbr. Pradesb (a) whetber the slag cement plant earlier proposed to be set up at Rourkela 1158. SHRI SODE RAMIAH : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased 10 by the Steel Authority bas beea sbifted to state: Madhya Pradesh; (b) if 80. ·the reasons for shifting the (a) whether any arrangements have been venue or the cement plaot; made to enable Kerala to get its share of power from tbe Ramaguodam Thermal (c) the amount already spent on tbis Station in Andbra Pradesb, and plant at Rourkel.; and (b) if so, the details tbereof? (d) the name of tbe place in Madbya Pradesh finally selected for itl location ? THE MINJSTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB THE MINIStBB. OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF BNERGY (SHRJMATI pePARTMBNT OF ~DUSTR.A~ DBV~· . SUS~U~A ~9HT~OJ): (8) .ad (b~. W~. NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 ' Wrltt,,, A",wers 164 the commissionlog of 300 KV Cuddapab- Will tbe Minister of PBTROLBUM Baolliore siolJe' circuit transmission line in AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to stato : July. 1986, tbere is DO constraint in trans- ferriol Kerala's abare of power from (a) the names of tbe places where I.' Ramaaundam thermal power statioD. and oil has been located by tbe Oil and Natural Gas Commission durin, tbe Power Theft 10 Deihl last one year; 1159. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH MALIK: (b) quantum of 8&8 and oil likely to be SHRISUBHASH YADAV: obtained from these new locations; and Will the Minister of ENERGY be (c) tbe money spent on each project? pleased to Itate : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether there have been tbefts or MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND power in tbe capital on a very large scale; NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) to (c). (b) the number of power th~ft cases detected by Delbi Electricity Supply Under· ---"'--- takioa durin. tbe last three years; and Basin Area WeJl No. Cost (In Rs. crores) (c) whether Government propose to declare tbeft of power a cogoisable offence and if oot, the reasons thereof ? Western B.172.1 4.06 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Offshore R .. 71.1' DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE I MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI CD-l J SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) During 1986- > Yet to be 87 (upto October. 1986), 110 case, of theft CA-l compiled of electricity have been detected by DESU. I B-42-1J (b) The year-wise figures of the cases of theft of electricity detected by DESU during Cam bay Basin Karjisan .. l 1.31 the last three years are as under : Pakhajan .. l 3.87 Year No. of cases 1983.84 32 Krishna- Kaza-l 3.99 Godavari Tatipaka-l 12.63 1984·85 48 1985 .. 86 344 Kaikalur-3 Yet to be compiled. (c) Necessary amendment to Indian Blectricity Act. 1910 has already been made The extent of tbese finds will be known only making tbeft or energy a cognizable offence. after furtber delineation/exploratory Tbese provisions are also applicable to tbe drilling. Union territory of Delbi. [Tranl/atton] Ga. and Oilioeated by ONGC 1160. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH Waitioa List for Telephone CODoeetlo •• MALIK: at Almor. (U.P.) SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : 1161. SHRI BARISH RAW AT : Will SHill V.S. KRISHNA lYEl\ : tbe Minister of CO~MUN~CATI9NS ~ Sa,,1 C. SAMBU , pleased to slato : , . ICAaTIKA 20, .908 (SAKA) (a) whether people are In tbe waltiDB list for a 1001 time to ,ot telephone conoec- 1984 1985 198' (Upto tlODS from Automatic TeJepbooe Excbaose September) .t A1mora fn Uttar Pradesb; 31,700 28,100 '1,200 (b) if so, tbe Dumbet of perSODS in the ton Del , too Des tOBoes aforesaid waitiollist; (c) wbether Government propose to (b) Percentage of supply 01 iodised saJt increase the capacity of this exchange during allainst the requirements 01 tbe Government tbe current financial year; aDd of Uttar Pr'adesb is given below : , (d) if Dot. the reasons therefor ? 1984 1985 J986 (Upto THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE September) MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The 599(, 52% 75% applicants for telephones arc OD waiting List ------_._--- since 10-5-1984. (c) The short supplies are due to short indenting by the local tradors for Jodised (b) 50 persons are OD tbe waiting list as salt. The State Government has been on 31-10·1986. addressed to direct tbe nominees and otber (c) There is no proposal to increase the Salt Traders to lift full quotas of iodised capacity or the existiol telephone exchange salt from the different sources where during tho current financial year. However. iodisation units arC' located. They have alia there is a proposal to expand the exchange been requested to ensure that noo-iodieed by 128 lines during tbe 7th Plan period. salt does not infiltrate into tbe goirre endemic areas, thus reducing the demands of iodllOd (d) The present telepbone exchange is a salt. Meta-conta rural (MeR) typo and equip- ment is required to be imported which Extension of S.T.D. Facilities 'laroulh takes time. Public Call Offlcel Supply of lodlled Salt to Uttar Pradesh 1163. SHRI SHANTI DHARJWAL: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 1162. SHRf HARISH RAWAT: Will be pleased to state : the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to state: (a) whether Government propose to extend SrD (acUjty to common people (a) tbe total quantity of Iodised salt through Pu bUc CaU Offices in tbe country: supplied to Uttar Pradesb during the last two years; (b) if so, tbe places where this service has been introduced; (b) whether this quantity is far less than the requirement. of tbe St. to; and (c) whether Government propose t start with SIn service tbroup PubJic C: (c) if so" tho steps boiDg taken by Offices in aU those cJties where STO racU~ Government to increase the supply of is already available; 1 lodised salt to tbis State ? (d) jf so, the details In tbis reaardj aDd THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DBPARTMENT,OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· (e) if not, tbe difficulties beiDa (aced J ,LOPMBNT IN THE MINISTRY OF introducing this facility? D INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM): (a) Quantity of iodised salt THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE supplied to Uttar Pradesh durioS the last MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION ',wo >,ean is ,livon below: (SHltl SONTOSH MOHAN DBV) ~ ", i67 Written Answers NOVEMBSR 11, 1986 WrItten Answers i58 (a) Yes Sir. However sro Public Tele- TIONS be pleased to atate : phones arc not sanctioned as a matter of policy at all stations having STD facility. (a) the number or applicants waitina They are provided subject to technical for telepbone cODnections under difJ'erent feasibility especially with regard to metering telephone excbaDJo in Delhi under differeDt aDd expected use. schemes; (b) how maDY telephone conncctioDs (b) There are quite a good Dumber of are expected to be liven by the end of such STO Public Telephones working in 1986; and many States. (c) rhe reasons why tbe progress in (c) No Sir, tbe position bas been providing telephone connections is very explained in (a) above. slow? (d) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (e) At pr~sent S.T,D. Public Telephone (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN nEV): (a) can be only from Departmental Offices like The number of applicants on tbe waiting Telegraph Offices and Exchanges because list under different telephone exchanges in charges are to be collected by an attendant Delhi, category-wise as OD 1.10.1986 is in accordance with meter reading. Not every given in the Statement below. where can this mater be provided due to operatiog technical limitation. (b) A target of 17,800 net DELs bas Coin-operated SID Public Telephone been set up from April to December, 1986. are being planned. They may be available in However, a total of 34,000 DELs (Net) i, large quantities in the later part of the 7th proposed to be provided during 1986-87. Plan (1985-1990). (c) The progress of giving new tele- [English) phone connection during this financial year (upto October, 86) bas, in fact, been Waiting List ror Telepbone Connections such faster. A total of 21500 connections io Deihl Telephone Excbanges have been provided compared to the laid down target of 11800. It is also higher 1164. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: than the achievement during tbe corres- Will the Minister of COMMUNICA .. ponding period of last year. Statement Position as on 1.10.1986 81. Telephone Exchange Exchange-wise Waitj~g Jist -''''OyT ----··SPL- OENL No. Exchange Code Total _~ __._. _ ...... ~"w _ ._0. 4 1 2 3 s 7 I. East Delhi 1. SHB-I 20 360 610 6552 7,582 2. SHD 21.24 903 1429 14,458 16,790 3. DO 26.27 270 7,615 7,88' 4. ID SI,52.,77.'13 70 9.'52 9.822 l~ W,lIfftt Am .." ttAlttrttA •• t908 '(SAKA) W"llttn Answers 170 I 2 3 4 5 6 7 II Nor'" Del •• $. TH 1'.25.291 4,t71 4,117 6. SIC. 71,74 J227 1287 27,798 30,312 v. DDL 746 33 87 855 975 8. ALP 745 7 3 87 97 9. MilL 747 3 6 304 313 III. Central Delb I 10. lP 31,32,34,35 2S8 46 1,354 1,6S8 It. SBN 301 136 576 712 12. RP 38 421 81 819 1,321 13. JB 61,62,69 1063 4S3 6,484 8.000 14. KB 331 885 49 1.098 2.032 IV. Sou•• ·DeI•• 15. OKH 63 1081 632 3,494 S,207 16. HK 65,66 170 31 7,130 7,331 17. CRY 60,67 505 326 4,634 5,465 18. NP 641,642,644 294 SO 13,303 13,647 V. Welt IHI.aI 19. KB 56,58.571 9,484 9,484 20. RO 50,53.541,543 11 24,283 14,294 21. GANTT 39 108 2S 522 65' 22. .llP 55 251 235 4,975 5,461 23. NJP 806 24 9 330 361 24. NlL 87 82 138 1.199 1.419 8151 S566 151283 165000 '171 Wrltlen J4nsw,rs ~.. . - , , Problems 01 Alcobol Industry (b) wbether any preliminary work #lU been dODe in this reaard; aDd 1165. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN ,I ,1: ~'~f~ ~ : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTR Y be (c) the time by which the work is 'pleased to state : .cbeduJed to be completed ? Guidelines relardlnl,Appolntment of (c) The appointment of a rCBular i'. Cilief JUltlces or Hllb Co""t. Chief Justice in tbe Delhi Hiab Court :n terms of the policy guideJines was notified on 23.9.19116. 1168. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD SINGH: Raising of Power GeDeratJoD Capacity \, SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI : SHRIMATI OEETA 1169. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD MUKHERJEE: SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: WUI the Minister of LA WAND (a) whether India is faciDI acute JUSTICB be pleased 'to state: power problem in the country; (8) the guidelines followed in the (b) if 80, the details this regard appointment of Chief Justices of Higb in and when it would be over; Courts: (c) whether Government propose to '(b) whetber there was any' complaint raise power generation capacity of tbo from the Bar or from the Bench stating existing plants in the country: and that the guidelines were disregarded in the appointment of Chief Justice of a Higb (d) jf 80. the details in this regard Court recently; and . and if not, the reasons therefor ? (c) if so. tbe action taken to remedy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe situation? \, DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI MINISTRY OF LAW AND' JUSTICE SUSHILA ROHT AGI): (a) and (b). (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) The Statewise power supply position durinl Government have \ accepted the policy of October, 1986 is given in the Statement having Chicf Justices .of Higb Courts from be)ow. Efforts are being made to consi- outside. This policy was formulated derably ameliorate the power situation by after consultation with tbe Chief Justice of the end of Seventh Five-Year Plan, sub- India and announced in the press note ject to availability of funds. dated 28.1.1983. A copy is la i,d on the Table of tbe House. [Placed in Library. (c) and (d). To augment thc power See. No LT.3224/86) generation capacity from the existing pian'•• a CentralJy sponsored renovation and ,(b) Some Bar and Judicial Service modernisation scheme covering 32 thermal Associations expressed their concern over power stations is being implemented at a tbe' delay in tbe appointnlcnt of a regular cost of R s. 500 crores. Chief Justice in tbe Delhi High Court. Sfatement ,Actu{~l Power Supuly Po5ltlon lor October. 1986 (AU figures in MU) Rt.aion/ October, 1986 Requi--' --- --A~8il:------Sbort------(%) State/ System rement ability age , ... --.... -.-..-..._.~--'"--" 1 2 3 4 5 Northe~D Re,'OD Cbandiprb 34 32 2 5.9 1)elbi 46~ ~6S 9 ,0 NOVE"'. lJ. I," 1 :2 4 5 Haryana sos 427 ,. 15.4 Himacbal Pradesb 79 19 o .0 J~mu aDd Kashmir 169 136 '3 19.5 Punjab incl, NFF 90J 898 3 .3 Itajaethan 640 569 71 11.1 Uttar Pradesh IS7S 1376 12.6 Weltera RealOD Qujarat 1450 1381 69 •. 8 M.P. 1123 1123 o .0 Maurasbtra iDOl. Ooa 2540 2449 91 3.6 Southera Rea'on Andbra Pradesb 1314 1314 o .0 Karnataka 1164 900 264 22.7 ¥erala 461 467 o .0 Tamil Nadu 1307 1249 '8 4.4 Ea.tera RtiioD Bibar 405 280 125 30.9 D.V.C. 619 512 107 17.3 Oritaa SS4 461 93 16.8 West Bengal 723 622 101 14.0 N. Ea.tern RelioD 170 161 , 4.1 All India 16204 14903 130J 8.0 Declaratlol or Ga.Jam u -No IDdastr)" (b) whet... Governtaeat are conti .. DI.trlct derinl any proposal to declare it a 'no . iDduttry· district. and .1 1170. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: wm the Minister of IN DUSTR Y be (c) if not. the reaaons tberefor ? pleased to state: THE M'lNIStl!lt. ()t1 'STATE IN TH8 whether it is a fact tbat there is DEPARTMENT OF tMf)USTRIAL prattically little industrial a«tvity in DBVBLOPMENT IN THB MINIST.RY OF OanJam dlstri~t Or"i lNP9STRy (Stl~1 ~. At\VN~., J71 Written Answers ICARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) WrItten Answers 118 CHALAM): (8) Tbere are a number of resolutions were received, out of which two medium scale industries elisting in the were from the Legis)ative Assembly of Gal'ljam district of Orissa besides 1698 Andhra Pradesh and one from the Legisla- SSI Units. tive Assembly of Tamil Nadu. (b) No, Sir. (b) The Councils abolished are: (c) AI only tbe districts having no 0) . Andhra Pradesh Legislative large or medium scale industries are iden- Council; and tified as 'No Industry Districts' Ganjam district is not eligible for inclusion in the (ii) Tamil Nadu Legislative list of 'No Industry District'. CouDcil. Abolition of State Legislati,e Councils [Translation) 1171. SHRI RAM DHAN: Will Distribution of Kerosene 011 to States tbe Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be 1172. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN: Will pleased to state : the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state the (a) how many resolutions for abolition quantity of kerosene oj} supplied to each of Legislative Councils were received State during the period from April, 1986 during the last five years; and to September, 1986, mODtb·wise ? (b) the names of Legislative CouDcils THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE abolished during that period? MINJSTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DUTT): A statement giving the requisite MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE information is given below, (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) Three Statement Stalevrile Month-wile Kerosene Supplies made during the per/od from April 10 September, /986 (Figures in Tonnes) S. Name of State/ April May June July Aug. Sept. No. Union Territory 1986 1986 1986 1986 1986 1986 - .... --,~--- _-- . -----~-~ ..... _~------.'-~-_------.--- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 , '-_""- .... - .. _------.. ---~_--~,-- ,,----~-- -~ --, _-.--_.. , ,_.".. ------""------1. Andhra Pradesh 32861 32522 33232 37129 36579 381S4 2. Arunachal Pradesh 734' 740 663 723 727 776 3. Andaman and Nicobar 202 230 233 241 242 303 Island 4. Assam 16672 169Cl3 ·15985 16446 16772 17925, s. Bibar 27148 28592 27133 3U8S 29380 28SSS 6. Chandiaarb 1182 1199 1226 1336 1350 1334 Dadra and N. aaveli 300· 283* 330· 418· 42S* 442• 7. . , : .' I" Written ...4nsw,rs NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Written AnI."" 180 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 8. Delhi 14165 '13634 J3240 14501 14673 14963 9. Gujarat 48289 48298 47944 48158 47475 48866 10. Goa. Daman aDd Diu. lS02@ 1520@ lS26@ 1710@ 1726@ 1597@ 11. HaryaDa 9890 9296 9295 10749 9452 9742 12. Himachal Pradesh 2087 2008 1936 2240 2258 2344 13. Jammu and Kashmir 3639 3587 3424 4006 3994 4056 14. Karnataka 25614 26520 26421 29432 28857 29098 15. Keral. 14758 15557 14863 16234 16147 16880 16. Madbya Pradesh 22059 23097 24309 21722 22274 22734 17. Mabarasbtra 88994 88915 88852 96039 95233 95488 18. Manipur 1490 1389 1245 1305 1207 1195 19. Megbalaya 1061 1098 1013 1137 1188 1167 20. Mizorom 430 387 327 389 443 410 21. Nagaland 767 76l 711 660 725 789 22. Orissa 9532 9809 9120 9945 9743 9350 23. Punjab 19543 19557 19467 21698 21393 21426 24. Pondicherry 928 882 887 915 910 930 25. Rajasthan 14767 14463 14582 15151 15351 15218 26. Sikkim 627 724 635 70S 829 415 27. Tamil Nadu 39710 39370 40227 42205 42219 42399 28. Tripura 1258 1255 1446 1482 1267 1334 29. Uttar Pradesh S5223 56018 54458 57142 57143 57054 30. West BCDlal 46531 ~6909 47416 4S101 4()O89 45769 31. Laksbadweep N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. Total 501963 505523 502146 530107 526061 530713 *lncl11diDI supplies made to Daman and Diu. @Bxc1udioa supplies made to Daman and Diu. ~.A. ~~"dl 'Of 'riot Aval~~bl", Iii WrittslI AnN;'S [SngIlM] are heiDI provided for rural employment schemes and also for distrJbutioa at El.peadJt.re 08 Malntenanee of Buffer specially subsidised rates to tho people in Stock of Fooclgralnl the tribal are •• aDd in welfare schemel for women and children. Food Corporation of 1173. SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA: India bas also been autborised to sell Will tbe Minister of POOD AND CIVIL wheat/rice in tbo open marke~. Beside •• SUPPLIES be pleased to state : export of wheat and wheat products aDd limited quantities of rice i8 permitted. (a) tbe yearly expenditure involved in maintaioiDI butter stock of foodgrains in the country; DiICUSI.OOI wlda State for De,elopmebt of Backward Area. (b) bow mucb of tbe stock can be lessened after allotment of the quantity 1174. SHRJ MURLIDHAR MANE: required for consumption to State Govern- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased ments; to state: (c) tbe norms followed in this regard in (a) wbetbor it is a fact tbat Directorate different countries; and General of T"cboical Development ba. started discussioDS with State Governments (d) the steps being taken to reduce the in regard to development of backward exccss stock DOW being kept for any reaions in the country; emergency II public distribution system or schemes for poverty alleviation ? (b) if so, whetber 8ucb a discussion bas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been beld with Government of Mabarashua; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL and SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) Expenditure incurred by tbe (,c) if so, tbe outcome of the discus- Food Corporation of India on maintenance sion? of buffer stocks of foodgrains for last two years was as under : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMBNT IN THE MINISTRY OF Year (Rs. in crores) INDUSTRY (SURI M. ARUNA. CHALAM): (a) to (c). It is tbe policy of tbe Government to promote industrialisa- 1984-85 497.94 tion of backward areas. In order to UDder .. stand tbe prolress made and allo to 1985-86 517.57 promote fast development of backward " areas DOTD proposes to hold dilcuuionl (b) Total distribution of foodarains in with various State autborities. First such various States/Union Territories and otbers meeting was hold in Srinasar in September, upto September, 1986 amounted to 13.47 1986. miJIion tonnes as against 11.16 million tonnes during the corresponding period in There are DO regular planned meelinp. J98.5. Tbe stock position from time to However. it is DOTD', intention to meet a. time depends on the inflow I.e. procurement, many entrepreneurs as possible from time to and outflow I.e. allocation,/offtake, which time. is continuous. So far: no such mceain, bas been (c) and (d). The norms in different organised in Maharashtra. The DOTD countries depend 00 tbe local practices and regional office at Bombay estabUshed prevailinl conditions. To Jessen tbe stocks recently is continuously intet.actina witb tbe to tbe desirable limit. tbe Government bave· Stato autborities of Mahar.sbtra, Guja, at Uberalised the alJocationa of foodarains for and Ooa, Daman and Diu to assist lb' public di.tributlon. Io additfoD, foodaraiD' entreproneurs. 183 Written Alllwers NOVEMBER. 11, 1986 Written Answers 184 ludo-U.S. Joint Ventures In the rHB MINISTER OP STATE IN THB Telecommuuieations Field DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI 117S. SaRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: SUSHI LA ROHTAGI> : (a) The quantum SHRIMOHANBHAIPATEL: and duration of power cuts/restrictions are decided by State Governments keeping in SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: view the availability and demand for power SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: in the State. Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- (b) and (c). The power position by the TIONS be pleased to state: end of the century would, Illter alia, depend on the power sector outlay and programme (a) whether U.S. Exim Bank is prepared to be finalised in the VJIlth and IXth Plan. to extend credit for Indo-U.S. joint ventures I n order to improve tbe power situation, in the Communications field; and State authorities are being requested from time to time to expedite commissioning of (b) whether it is tbe first time that on-going projects, improve utilisation of leading U.S. companies have offered existing capacity, reduce T and D losses, collaboration in the manufacture of tele- implement energy conservation and demand communication equipments ? management measures, etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Technology Supply atTected due to India'. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN non-membership or Paris Convention on pateots nEV) (a) The Exim Bank of USA has offered export credit financing to support sales of U.S. technology, services 1177. DR. CHINTA MOHAN : Will and equipment in the telecommunications the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to field. state : (b) No, Sir. ITT which is a leading (a) whether there are any specific cases U.S. Company bas collaborated in manu- where technology supply to India bas been facture of telecommunication equipment affected because of India's non-membership through its subsidiaries in Belgium and of the Paris Convention on Patents; Italy. (b) if so, the details thereof; and Power Cuts (c) tbe result of initiatives taken by 1176. SUR I N. DENNIS : Will the India for securing revision of Paris Minister of ENERGY, be pleased to state: Convention to stiit the needs of developing c')untries ? (a) whether round the year power cut . of 20 per cent to 2S per cent is being thought of in trade in place of the current THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL practice of increasing or decreasing the rate DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF of energy cuts; IND,USTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· (b) whether State authorities have been CHALAM): (a) and (b). No such case tbe talking about self-sufficiency in tbe power by has come to the notice of Mioistry of tUfO of tbe century based on certain assump .. Industry. tions; and (c) The proposals for revision ,of the (c) if so, whether any guidelines have Paris Convention for the Protection of h~eD given or are proposed to be given by Industrial Property are beina discussed in Union Government to States in tbis the Diplomatic Confernce, which has so far, roaard ? beld four SOIIioDS. . 18; Written Answers KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Wrlt.ten .4.nswer; 186 Report of Espert Group on Safety In that there is need for streamlinina and Chemical and Petro.cbemlcal coordination of efforts for which purpose Industry it bad proposed the setting-up of a National Board on Industrial Safety and Hazards. 1178. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : A final decision is yet to be taken on this SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: recommendation. Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : Supply of Kerosene to Kerala (a) whether the expert Group on safety t 179, PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the in the chemfcals and petro-chemica1s Minister of PETROLEUM AND industry has submitted its report to Govern- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: menl; (a) the quantity of kerosene allotted to (b) if so, the recommendations made Kerala to be supplied througb public by this Group and action taken to imple- distribution system during tbe current year ment tbem; and so far; (c) the steps taken by Government to (b) whether Kerala Government has identify the areas of existing installations in requested for more Quota; and this industry which are baving high hazard potential 1 (c) if so, steps taken to meet their demand? THE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA CHANDRA SINOH) : (a) Yes, Sir. DUTT): (a) While the overall allocation of kerosene to various States/Union (b) and (c). Government had set-up Territories including Kerala is made by the the Inter-Ministrial Group to consider and Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas. review the measures required to be taken its further distribution to different sections! for control of hazards in chemicals and areas within the State is done by the petro-chemical units. This Group commis- concerned State Government/Union sioned surveys and inspections of the public Territory Administration. Month-wise sector chemicals and petro-chemical units kerosene allocations made to Kerala State and selected sucb private sector units during the current year (1986) are as through expert grpups for the purpose of under: evolving guidelines and recommendations on safety, based on . observations relating· to Figures in tonnes) existing practices. Tbe~e guidelines are expected provide technical references to to Month Allocation the management as well as statutory inspecting agencies for ensuring safety in Chemicals and petro-chemical units. The 1 2 report also contains certain general recommendations like the need for safety January, 86 17240 training programmes, multi-disciplinary in- house safety units. the need to conform to February t 86 17240 specified guidelines on transportation and disposal of chemicals. the need to encourage March. 86 15780 investment in safety etc. April, 86 15280 Copies of the report havo already been sent to some of tbe concerned authorities May, 86 lS2RO and industry associations for appropriate action. Tbe report bas also recommended June, 86 15280 181 Written A.nswer, NOVSMBBR i1, i98~ Written Answers' taS 1. LalgaoJ 2. Ghosi I 2 3. Mabarajg80j 4. Saraimeer July. 86 J5945 s. Majhwara' 6. BiJariaganj AUlust,86 15945 7. Brahamotban .. Ki-ChuDgi. September. 86 17000 (c) and (d). 10 respect of locations at October, 86 17J57 Ghosi, and Mabarajganj and Majhwara, Letters of Intent have beetl issued to tbo 'November, 86 193J2 selected candidates. The Oil MarketiDI companies are taking action to advertise tbe Deccmbert 86 12312 other locations. However. in view of tbe .,._.. ~u ____,,· various &teps which precede tbe allotment of (b) Yes, Sir. a dealership/distributorsbip, it is not possible to indicate a definite time limit by wbich (c) Allocation for the Winter Block these dealerships win slart functioning. comprising tbe months of November. 1986 to February, 1987, has beeD made at an Setting up or Industry in Azamgarb cnhanced rate of 19312 toones per month DI.trict of UP. as agaiost 17240 tonnes allocatej for the correspondinl period of previous year. J 181. SURI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will tbe Minister or INDUSTRY bt pleased to [Translation] state : OpeDlng of Petrol and Diesel Pumps (a) whether it is a fact that Azamgarb 10 Azamgarb. U.P. district in Uttar Pradesh is an industrially backward area; 1180. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, whether Government are NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: considering any proposal for setting up a factory of H.M.T. Ltd., or I.T.I., Ltd., in (a) the Dumber of petrol and diesel this arca in order to remove its backward- pumps proposed to be opened in Azamgarb ness; district of Uttar Pradesh and whether their locations have been selected; 10 Cc) if so, by what time; and (b) if so, the names of the places where (d) if not, the reasons therefor? petrol pumps are to be opened; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (c) the names of the places out of them DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL for which applications have already been DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF invited aod the time by which the petrol INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- pumps will start functioning; and CHALAM) : (a) Azamgarh has been identified 8S a Category 'C' industrially (d) if applications have Dot been invited backward district. so far, tbe time by which this will be done? (b) to (d). Investments in Public Sector THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE undertakings are of ,a basic character and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND are determined 00 a variety of techno- NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA economic considerations. Subject to these DUTT): <8> The oil industry proposes to considerations, preference for location of open 7 petrol and diesel pumps in Azamgarb such industries is Biven to backward areas. District of Uttar pradesh. Government have Dot received any proposal for settinl up of a factory of H.M.T. Ltd .• (b) Tbe Dames of these locations are as or I.T.I. Ltd., in Azamaarh District of Uttar UDder : Pradesb. 189 Written A"swerl KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written AnsWlfs 190 Will the Mlniater of COMMUNI· CATIONS be pleased to state : Policy on Settlna up of New Sugar 'Faetorlel (a) whether TelecommunicatioDs Depart- ment has proposed to privatise some of 1182. SHRI DINESH SINGH : Will the services including tbe sale of telephone Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES instruments wirinl at tbe subscribers be pleased to state : residence and installation of EAPBX facilities at business premises; THB MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE (c) whether private sector bas .,reed MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL to this and to what extent the private sector SUPPLIBS (SHRI OHULAM NABI has been involved in promotinl the AZAD) : (a) No. Sir. telephone services? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Losses in Coal India Ltd. (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (8) The Department of TelecommunicatioDs bas 1183. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Will the already permitted tbe purchase and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : installation of type approved PABXs by the subscribers. They can also purchase the (a) whether Coal India Limited is likely type approved telephone instruments for use to continue to incur losses till the end of tbe as a second instruments. Wiring at the Seventh Plan period; and subscribers' premises is also permissible to be done by the subscribers. (b) if so. the reasons therefor and the steps being taken to meet the situation 1 (b) To the extent the customers premises equipment is purcbased aod provided by the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI subscribers themselves, the capital funds VASANT SATHE) : (8) and (b). Tbe saved by the Department could be utilised profit or loss of Coal India Limited will for other projects of the Department. depend on various factors such as cost of production which includes level of wages, (c) A number of private, Joint Sector cost of inputs, ~ost of machinery and other and Public Sector Companies bave been capita) equipment, return on capital as well given letters of intent to manufacture as tbe administered prices of coal, telephone instruments, teleprinters, PABX, etc. All out efforts are being made to reduce the cost of production by improving the High Power Committee on Public efficiency of operations, by reducing Distribution System administrative expenses, by better utilisation I' of men and machinery and by introduction 1185. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: of better managem~nt practices and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL technology. SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) whether Government have appointed Prl,ate Settor ID,ol,ed In Promoting a bigh power committee to study the Telephone Senleel functioning of tbe public distribution system in metropolitan cities and to suueat a 1184. SHRI S.M. OURADDI : comprehensive and efficient maDaat-men. SHR.I 0.5. BASAVARAJU: .ystem for t~e pqblic diltributioD sfSICPl, ~flRI JAOANNATH P~11'NAIl(: aq4 191 W,.ltlen Answtrs NOVEMBER II, 1986 Written Answers 192 (b) if so, the composition and the terms (ii) To suglest a comprehensive of reference of tbis committee '1 package for ensuriDS efficient management of the Public Distri· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bution System in Metropolitan MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL Cities. 'SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. Proposal for Production of Hlgb-Tech Produrts by IndlaD Petro-Chemicals (b) The composition and the terms of Corporation Ltd. reference of tbe Committee are given in the 1186. SHRI C. MADHAV RBDDI statement below. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Statement (a) whether the Indian Petro-Chemicals The Composition of the Study Group on Corporation Limited bas submitted any Public Distribution System for the proposals to the Government for the metropolitan cities is as follows: production in a phased manner of several new high-tech products; and 1. Smt. Pratibha PatH. (b) if so, what are the products planned Member Parliament of (Rajya Sabba) and what would be tbe additional capital cost of the expansion/diversification? 2. Shri M. Palaniyandi, Member of Parliament (Rajya Sabha) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 3. Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh, PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Member of Parliament (Lok Sabha) OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. lAI· CHANDRA SINGH): (8) and (b). Indian 4. Smt. Phulrenu Guha, Petro-Chemicals Corporation Limited has Member of Parliament (Lok Sabba) submitted a proposal to the Government for the setting up of Rand D Pilot Plant of 12 s. Shri S.K. Govil. TPA capacity for the manufacture of Carbon Consultant, Planning Commission, New Fibre and Ac;sociated Product Application Delhi. Development Centre. It is estimated that the capital cost of tbe project wiIJ be around 6. Shri Surinder Sinsh, Rs. 23 crores. The carbon fibre will be Secretary,. Food and Civil Supplies used in the high technology areas like Deptt, Government of Uttar Pradesh, defence. space. aviation, automotive, etc. Lucknow. r~oss to Neyvel i LigoUe Corporation Ltd. 7. Shri C.D. Arha, due to late deUveries by certain Firm!) Secretary, Food and Civil Supplies Deptt., Government of Andhra Pradesh, 1187. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the Hyderahad. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether M.A.N. of West Germany 8. Shri D.K. Singh, and WMI both have failed to pay the sum leint Secretary, Deptt. of Civil Supplies, of Rs. 1.18 crores so far to tbe Neyveli Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies •. Lignite Corporation Limited. Neyveli, New Delhi. Tamil Nadu towards the defective Bucket Wheel E1(cftvlltors of J 400 litres capacity The Terms of Reference of the Study eacb; Group are: (b) if so, tbe details thereof; and (i) To study the pre~ent status of the (c) the action taken against the manage- functioning of the Public ment of Neyveli Lignite Corporation Limited Distribution System iq tbe metro- for their failure to adopt necessary measu!e$ politan Cities, ~~r1ier against t~e said firms ? ICARTIICA 20, 1908 (SAKA) W,ltt,n Answers 194 THB MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHBI Corporations tOletber are expected to V ASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). A claim construct additional storaae capacity of bas been made on, M.A.N./WMI for Rs. 13.6' lakh tonnes during the current 1.18 crores towards tbe cost of rehabilitation year in the public. sector. or of tbe damaged Bucket Whee) Excavator. tbis capacity, 7.00 lakb tonnes is The claim was made soon after rehabilitation proposed to be constructed by the Feod of the Excavator. M.A.N. have not so far Corporation of India, 2.15 lakh tonnes by accepted to pay tbis amount. tbe Central Warebousing Corporation and 4.501akb toone, hv the State Warehousinl (c) Does not arise. Corpora tions. ConltructioD of Warehoules Plant L •• Jllltor In Power Generating ;!J'f'J:J Project. 1188. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : ~ ",~. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1189. SHRI OADADHAR SAHA : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pJeased (a) whether Government propose to to state the details of the plant load factor construct more warehouses in publio sector in various power generating projects in tbe or in private sector during the current year; country; State-wise during the last tbree and years, year-wise and project.wise ? (b) jf so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUSHILA ROHTAGJ) : A statement SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI showing tbe State-wise and Project-wise AZAD) (a) and (b). Tbe Food Plant Load Factor of thermn 1 power stations Corpora tion of India, Central Warehousing during 1983 .. 84. 1984-85 and 1985·86 is Corporation and 16 State Warebousing given below. Statement Plant Load Factor 0/ the Thermal Power Station, from 1983.84 10 1985-86 Thermal Power Station PLF(%) ----_._ .- ... ~ ------1983-84 1984-85 1985·86 1 2 3 4 Central Sector 54.8 SS.4 61.9 Badarpur 48.7 47.9 46.0 Singrauli STPS 55.7 , 59.3 68.8 Korba STPS 62.7 52.2 74.4 Ramasundam STPS 57.4 72.1 74.9 Neyveli 14.2 77.0 47.1 Chandrapura (DVC) 54.3 52.8 5~.~ pur~pur ~DV~) 3S.0 40.3 NOVBMBBR II, "1& WrhNn A.1I$wers 196 1 2 3 4 Bo1tafO (DVC) 54.0 51.0 S1.8 c ... (a....,.) 45.8 49.1 N.A. Pt'lftteS..... 64.1 63.0 57.5 Ahmedabad Blectric 4ft 75.6 71.4 66.3 , ',~i I Trombay (Tata EJec. ~) , 75.1 65.7 54.8 . ~M'l,)~ Calcutta Blea. Stlppty eo.,.s~ 52.7 54.0 5S.3 \\1, "1 81aIe Eledltidq Boa,.. 44 •• 44.~ 49.2 DEIU 47.7 S8.9 63.8 I.P. Station 50.2 61.7 63.8 Rajabat 23.2 30.6 HSEB 31.1 34.7 32.8 Parld.bad E~. 27.8 27.9 25.2 Panlpat 32,6 39.7 39.0 R8EB 72.3 57.2 57.5 Kota 72.3 57.4 57.5 PSEB 57.0 64.3 5H.9 BbatiDda 57.0 61.9 60.5 Ropar 79.4 57 .. 0 tJl»SEB 35.1 3J.6 37.3 Obra 35.7 29.7 41.6 ranki 46.8 48.8 34.2 Harduaaanj •A' 20.S 32.0 23.S HarduapDj 'B' and "e" 36.0 29.6 34.8 ,R.P.B. Kaopur 24.S 24.8 14.2 Paricba 2.8 28.2 'Others (U.P) 7.6 24.9 N.A GO .55.3 54.0 53.: pbuv~q ~9,O 66.~ 57.7 1 2 3 4 Ukai 49.6 50.S 49.9 Gandhi Nagar 63.1 39.8 69.0 Wanakbori 37.2 59.2 47.3 Utran 64.4 59.7 54.3 OT and Others 12.4 9.9 N.A. l\-ISE8 ~J.O 46.6 54.8 Nasik 51.1 51.9 63.9 Koradi 44.0 36.0 62.0 Khaparkheda 20.2 18.7 32.0 Paras 43.9 34.4 45.9 Chandrapur 45.2 44.7 Bhusawal 47.0 45.7 59.7 ParJi 69.9 74.2 67.0 Uran (OT) 75.6 61.6 27.4 Otbers 46.8 21.9 N.A. MPEB 53.1 51.'1 53.3 Satpura 52.4 48.5 51.7 Korba I SS.3 55.1 54.9 Korba II 64.7 44.3 57.6 Korba III 35.8 56.2 57.8 Amarkantak 59.2 65.9 63.1 Korba West 22.12 29.1 45.7 APSEB 54.6 54.4 ...a Kothagudem A 58.2 58.9 54.0 Kothaludem B 24.2 32.0 36.0 Kothagudem C 28.5 38.2 54.9 Vijayawada 84.2 77.4 88.9 Ramagundem B 72.7 50.1 90.4 ~ *99 Written Answers Wrlttln Answ", 200 1 2 4 Nell ore 55.4 44.6 45.3 Others 3.7 1.7 N.A. KarDataka Ralebur 33.5 TNEB 39.4 49.0 56.S Ennore 27.9 36.2 52.2 Tuticorin SO.S 62.0 65.S Basin Bridge 14.0 14.2 3.6 BSEB 32.8 30.' 34.1 Patratu 30.3 33.0 40.0 Barauni 15.S7 21.3 17.0 Muzafl'arpur 42.8 OSEB 33.3 32.2 31.7 Talcher 33.3 32.2 31.1 .35.9 36.S 42.2 WBSEB 44.9 48.3 51.3 Bandel 27.4 24.7 28.6 Santaldih 17.7 SO.3 Kolaghat 11.8 12.2 N.A. Gouripore N.A. Gas Turbine 30.3 28.9 26.3 DPL 34.2 29.6 27.5 ASEB 49.7 35.0 40.3 Cbandrapur 38.2 46.6 Namrup 38.5 19.5 15.9 1.9 Boogaigaon 47.1 36.4 40.1 Gas Tnrbine 47.S» SO.l '2.4 An India 20i Written Allswer, KARTlKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 202 TelepboDe BIUs Arrears phone connections from NaDsloi Tole- phone Exchange; 1190. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (e) jf so, by what time telephone con- pleased to state the total amount of nections will be provided to them; and telephone a bill arrears against each of the ex-Ministers and MPR. and ex-Chairman of (f) the time by wbich telephone Government bodies as OD September 30, facility will be made available in all the 1986 ? villages in ~ural Delhi ? THE MINISTER OF STATE THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNI- MINISTR Y OF COMMUNICATIONS CATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a> DEV): The information regard- Telephone exchanges of MAX-II strowser ing the total amount of arrears of telephone type are working at Najafgarh, Nanaloi bills outstandin~ against each of the ex- and Bedli. Ministers and ex-Members of parlic1ment as on September 30, 1986 has been called for The Department is seized of the from tbe Units and will be placed on the problems being faced by the subscribers in Table of the House as early as possible. getting calls from the above exchanges to Delhi and vice-versa. This is mainly due As regards the outstanding against ex- to heavy traffic. In order to solve tbe chairman of Government bodies, it may be problems, it is proposed to provide higb mentioned that the records of the depart- grade interexchange junctions through ment 1 are maintained telephone number- Pulse Code Modulation system between wise. I There is no separate category in the Shakti Nagar-Badli, Najafg~rh Rajouri Gar- name of ex-Chairmen of Government den. Nangloi- Rajouri-Garden and Najafgarh bodies. As such furnishing of details of Janpath and replace the above exchanges outstanding telephone bills in respect of Ex- by electronic telephone exchanges. Chairman of Government bodies may not be possible. (b) Yes, Sir. [Tranl/atlon] (c) The building is likely to be com- pleted by the middle of 1987. Setting up of Telephone Excbange at Udyog Nagar 10 Pira Garbl Delhi (d) Yes, Sir. 1191. SHRI BHARAT SIGNH : Will (e) Telephone connections are ex- tbe Mini.ter of COMMUNICATIONS be pected to be provided to the applicants by pleased to state: the end of the Seventh Plan. (a) whether there are telephone ex- Cf) Subject to availability of resources. changes for Najafgarb, Nangloi, Badli in which are very meagre at present, it is rural Delhi and if so, the reasons why expected that the demand pending upto calls from Delhi to tbese areas and vice" 31.3.86 will be met by the end of Seventh versa are not materialised; Plan. (b) whether site has been selected (Engl/,h] for settinl up a telephone Exchange at Udyoa Nagar in Piragarhi near NaD81oi; Proposal to set up Acr,Uc Staple F'bre (c) if so tho time by which its build· Project at Cuttack In Orls8a inl will be CODstructed; 1192. SHRIMATI JAYANTJ PAT- (d) whether many persons have got NAIK: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY their names reaistered for domestic tole- be ploased to state : 283 Writtl" Answers NOVEMBSR II, 1916 (8) wbether Government have a the Minister of PETROLEUM AND proposal to set up an Acrylic Staple Fibre NATURAL G AS be pleased to state : project at Cuttack in Orissa; (a) the number of oil refineries beiDI (b) whether Industrial Promotion and rUD by Indiad Oil Corporation; Investment Corporation of Orissa Ltd., bas applied to his Ministry to grant a letter of (b) tbe capacity utilisation of each latent to set up that project; and of tbose refineries in 1985-86; (c:) if so, the details thereof and tbe (c) whether IOe proposes to take up steps taken to issue the letter of intent? some more projects; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the details thereof ? DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO.CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAICHAN- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ORA SINGH) : (a) to (c). In July 1985 MIs. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Industrial Promotion and Investment DUTI): (a) and (b). A statement is given Corporation of Orissa Ltd. submitted an below. application for grant of letter of intent for settinl up a unit at Cuttack in Orissa for (c) and (d). It bas been proposed to manufacture of acrylic staple tibre for a set up a 6 MTPA grass root refinery at capacity of 12,000 tonnes! annum. The Karnal in the joint sector with IOC as a application was rejec ted. partner. IOe are also expanding the capacity of their KoyaJi and Matbura Refineries rUD by Indian Oil refineries by 2.2 and 1.5 MTPA respecti- Corporation vely and propose to set up additional secondary processing facilities at Koyali 1193. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA refinery. NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will Statement Refinery-wile In,'alled Capacity/Crude throughout and Capacity Utili,ation by IOC during 1985.86 1985-86 (MMT) -_-.. -.-._~~-- -__ ._--_.. _.-----_.-.. _._------_. ---- Refinery 1nstalled Actual Crude Capacity Capacity Throughput UtiJisation (%) 1 2 3 4 ------_._-_._-----_... 1. IOC, Gaubati 0.85 0.77 91% 2. IOe, Barauni 3.30 2.77 84% 3. JOC, Koyali 7.30 7.83 107% 4. IOC, Haldia 2.50 2.82 113% s. IOC, Matb:~ra 6.00 6.08 101% 6. JOe, Digboi 0.50 0.53 106% Total 20.45 20.80 102% 205 Written Answers KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Wrltt~n An$W~rs 2M Propos.lto start New Ind'a.trles by districts of Andbra Pradesh in tbe Dear Central Govern.eat In Andbr. future, jf so, when and if Dot, tbe reasons Pradeth therefor? 1194. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will THE MINISTBR the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to OF STATE IN THE state : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTR Y (SHRI M. ARUNA- (a) whether there is, some minor or major industry sponsored by the Union CHALAM) : (a) to (c). Under the pro- visions of the industries (Dev. and Reg.) Government located in the backward dis- Act. 3 letters of intent were granted duri.n.g tricts of Andhra Pradesh; the years 1983 to 1986 (upto Sept. '86) to (b) if so, the details tbereof and if Central Government Undertakings for setting of industrie~ in centrally declared not. the reasons therefor; and up backward areas of Andhra Pradesh- Details of these are given below: (c) whether there is Borne proposal to start new industries in these back-ward ------Name of the Unit/Location Type Item of Mfg. and Capacity Electronics Corpn. of India New Colour Graphic Terminals Ltd., Hyderabad (Backward under and image processing dis. distt. cdt 'Bt or 'e') taking play terminals = 100 nos. Electronics Corpn. of India New Colour Projection TVS- . Ltd •• Hyderabad (Tirupati. under 18,000 nos. Chittoor) taking Electronics Corpn. of India New Digital Single Channel per Ltd., Hyderabad (Tirupati) under carrier equipnlent (SCPC) taking =-50 systems. Non-Availability of Alcohol to Industries OF JNDUSTR Y (SHRI R. K. JAI. In Andhra Pradesh CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). In order to improve the availability of alcohol in 1195. SHRI V. TULSJRAM: Will Andhra Pradesh. 18 industrial units in tbat the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to State were allowed duty free' import of state = 112,882 lakh 1itres of alcohol (denatured). In addition, 70.76 lak h Jitres of alcobol, (a) whether it is a fact that alcohol including rectified spirit. was allocated to based industries in Andhra Pradesh are Andhra Pradesh from U.P. and Maharashtra suffering due to non-availability of industrial during the current alcohol year 1985-86 . alcohol and rectified spirit required for their (December 1985-November 1986). Thus, all smooth functioning; possible efforts have been made to make available adequate quantity of alcohol for (b) if so, the details thereof; and industries in Andhra Pradesh. (c) the steps taken by the Union Government to improve the supply of tbese Divisional Telephone Committees 'n commodities to Andhra Pradesh ? Andhra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'CHE 1196. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Win DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND the Minister of COMMUN rCATIONS p~ P~TflO.CHEM1CALS ~N TJf~ MlNISTRY pleased to state ; 207 Written Answers NOVEMBER 11. 1986 Wrltt8n Answers 208 Cc) Tbe information is given in the Civil cases pending in DeIhl Hlgb Court Statement below. 1198. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI Statement GUPTA: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: Permanent telephone connections can be f sanctioned on out of turn priority basis to (a) the number or civil cases pending in provide traffic relief to beavy callers, or due Delhi High Court upto June, 1986; to 8n areas change in multi-exchange telephone system when the 'main telephone' (b) the period of their pendency; 'and or its 'external extension' is involved in the area transfer. Heads of Telecommunications (c) the steps taken or proposed to be Circles aod Telephone Districts can also taken for their early clearance 1 sanction telephones in deserving cases on merits at their discretion from tbe 'OYT· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Special' and 'Non·OVf-SS' prIoraty MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE categories. Memhers of Telecom/Telephone (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). Advisory Committee also recommend The requisite information is being collected sanctioD of telephone on out of turn basis from tbe Registry of the Delhi Higb Court from 'OYT' and 'Non-OYT-Specia)' and would be laid on the Table of the categories at time of bulk release. Other House. deserving cases can be sanctioned from the Headquarters office on out of turn priority (c) Steps taken for all the High Courts basis. which include the Delhi High Court. are given in tbe Statem~nt below. Pending Power Projects io Andhra Pradesb Statement 1197. SURI V. TULSIRAM: Will Step, taken from time to time to the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to reduce pendency state: The fol1owing steps have been taken in recent years to reduce pendency in the HiSh (a) whether some proposals to seek Courts: external financial assistance to complete all the approved pending power projects in 1. Elimination of arrears in all tbe Andhra Pradesh; Courts has been discuued in the Conference of Chief Ju~tices. Chief (b) if so, tbe details th~reof; ~nd MinistersI·" 0# andI Law1 Ministers, }# i of Statesoi J 2ot~ Wrltt,,, .AnlWers KARl1KA 20,· 1908 (SAKA) Wrltte" Answt" 210 beld on 31st AUIUSI-llt September tbe system of administration of 1985 and tbe Resolutions of tbe justice by : Conference bave been commended to tbe HiSb Courts and tbe State (i) establishinl, extending and Governments. strengthenjD8 in rural areas the institution of Nyaya 2. Tbe Code of Civil Procedure was Panchayats or other amended In 1976 to abolish Letters mechanisms for resolving Patent Appeals from Judgement of disputes; Single Judae of tbe High Court in Second Appeal (vide Section lOO-A). (U) setting up a system of participatory justice with 3. The Code of Criminal Procedure defined jurisdiction and based on the recommendations of the powers in suitable areas Law Commission was enacted in and centres; 1973. (iii) establishing other tiers or 4. The sanctioned strength of the High systems within the judicial Court Judges bas been increased from hierarchy to reduce the 3S1 in March 1977 to 434 as 00 1st volume of work in tbe November, 1986. Supreme Court and the High Courts. s. Apart from the above, certain High Courts are taking the fonowing steps (b) the matters for which Tribunals for ensuring better disposal of cases : (excluding Services Tribunals) as envisaged in Part-XIV .. A of the (a) Cases involving common Constitution need to be establish- questions are being grouped by ed expeditiously and various several High Courts; aspects related to tbeir establish- ment and working. (b) Matters fixed for hearing by giving short returanable dates; (c) tbe procedural laws with a view generaIJy to disposing of cases (c) Dispensing with printina of expeditiously, eliminating un- records; necessary litigation, deJaya in hearing of cases and reforms in (d) Expediting and IIVlDg priority procedures and procedural laws to matters under certain Acts. and particularly' to devising procedures a ppropriate to the 6. The recommendations contained in forums envisaged in items (a) the 79tb Report of the Law Commis- (i) and (a) (ii). sion have been examined. As action OD majority of tbe recommendations (d) the method of appointments to is to be taken by the State Govern- subordinate courts, subordinate ments and tbe· Higb Courts, these judiciary. have been sent to tbem alongwith the view of the U Dion Government and (e) the training of Judicial officen. they have been requested to take necessary action. (f) the role of the legal profession in strengthening the system of 7. The Government have entrusted the administration of justice. Law Commission, the study 0.1 the judicial system to introduce necessary (g) the desirability of formulation of reforms. The terms of refertnce the norms which the Government are: and the Public Sector Undertak- ings should fonow in the settle- (a) tbo need ror decentralisation of ~cpt of disPQtes iDCJudinS a review 211 Written AlI8w,,, NOVEMBER. II, 1986 Written Answ", 112 or tbe present .ystem for conduct also include carrying out industrial potential of litigation on behalf of the surveys, assistance in policy area., assiatance . Government and such under- in setting up of institutional and provJdina takinp. services for project identification and selec. tion. and supply of plants, equipment, etc. (h) the cost of litigation with a view to lessening the burden on the Suppl, of FoodlralDs to Flo.od Iltil80tl. Affected State. (i) formation of an An India 1200. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Judicial Service; aDd Win the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: ( j) luch otber matters 81 the Commission considers proper or (a) whether tbe Centre have rushed necessary for the purposes foodgrains to the States which bave been aforesaid or as may be referred affected by floods and drought during the to it from time to time by the last six months; Government. . (b) if so, the break-up of the supplies Help to African countries In setting up made to each State; Small Industries (c) the price at which tbese cereals were 1199. SHRIMATI MADHUREE supplied; and SINGH: Will the Min'ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (d) whetber in view of the bappy position that the country now enjoys with (a) whether Government have any regard to wheat production, tbo supplies of proposal to help developing countries of wheat could be made at concessiona) rates Africa in setting up small industries on its to help tbe flood/drought affected people own model; and and if so, Government·, reaction in this regard ? (b) the details in regard to development of Iman industries and ·creation of institu- THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE tional and infrastructural facilities in these MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL . countries ? SUPPLIES (SHRf OHULAM NABI AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DBPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (b) A DEVBLOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF statement indicating lifting of INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- (oodgrains by Andhra Pradesh, West Benlal CHALAM): (a) and (b). India;,s providing and Assam/NEF States is liven below. aul,tance to tbo developing countries includ- inB African countries in the promotion and (c) Foodgrains arc supplied to State development of small scale industries. The Governments at tbe Contral Issue Prices assistance need not be patterned on the fixed by the Central Government from time to time. Indian model. I t depends U POD various factors luch as, tbe requirements of the country, tbe availability of local resources, (d) Wheat is issued at Central Issue Infra structural facilities, etc. The assistance Prices. Distribution to the fJood/drouabt Is rond.red in tbe form of providing affected people at concessioDe. rates is consultancy services for planning, designiDI decided upon by the State (loverDtnent, aDd establishment of industrial units alonl- where necessary. with related infrutructural facilities.· They !' I,., . ilitlICA io, jg()8 (SAKA) StatemeDt Stale",ent .lIowlng II/ling 0/ wheat Qnd rice by Andhra Prade.h. We,' .",01 allt/.,f"am/ NEF State, unde, Public Dld,lbutlon System, Roller Flo", Mill. and Integrated Tribal Dev.lopment Project Scheme during ~prll.S,pttmber 1986 (figures in '000 ton Gel) Month Andbra Pradesh West Benlal Al8am/NEF --.~~ --->_--_ ------~~--- .... --.- Wheat Rice Wheat Race Wheat Rice .---... _. _ .... ., ..... -----~- ~ ------""_"-_'---- April '86 2.6 13.9 47.6 63.8 22.4 64.8 May '86 7.2 90.0 49.4 57.3 30.1 69.1 JUDe '86 4.8 101.0 48.5 57.2 24.1 76.2 July '86 8 .. 2 114.5 86.4 77.7 37.8 19.5 August '86 7.6 109.1 J 11..7 79.6 48.9 8S.1 September '86 4.5 87.1 109.2 87.3 51.6 78.1 Fuods Ralaed by Malaanagar Telephone non-cumulative scheme. The bonds will be Nigam of two types : 1201. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: (1) 14% (taxable) bonds redeemable Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS after 7 years from the date of be pJea!ed to state: allotment. (a) whether the Mahanagar Telephone (ii) 10% (tax free) bonds redeemable Nigam bas been raising funds from tbe after 10 years from the date of Market through debentures; allotment. (b) if so, details tbereof; (c) Yes, to some extent. (c) wbetber the cost of raising these (d) and (0). This will have to be consi. funds would affect its working costs; dered from time to time. (d) if so, whether such higher costs would be passed on to CODsumers; and Joint Venture Projects 10 Po"er Sedor (e) if so, dotails thereof ? 1202. SHR.I.RAM SINGH YADAV: Will tbe Minister of ENBRGY be pleased to THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DBV) : (a) (a) whether Government bad invited Yea Sir. joint venture projects in tbe power sector witb a view to overcomiDI rosource CODS- (b) An issue of Mahanagar Telephone traint in this reaard; Niaam Bonds for raising Rs. 150 Crore will open on 25th November, 1986. The bonds (b) whether response from tbe private wiU be in the denominations of Rs. 1000 parties including Non-resident Indians baa each for cash at POt under cumulative and been encouraaiol un now; and ilS Wrltt,n Answers (c) tbe time by which these power Settlul up of In8tltute of En,lroameatal projects would be let up and add to the 881et)' total energy acocration in the country ? 1204. SURI SRIBALLAV PANI- THB MINISTER OF STA TB IN THE GRAHl : Will the Minister of PETRO- DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE LEi)M AND NATURAL GAS be pleased MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI to state : SUSHtLA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). Propo- sals have not been invited for setting up power (a) whether it is a fact that Oil and projects under joint-sector management; Natural Gas Commission bas decided to set however, some parties have evinced interest up an Institute of Eovironmental Safety in in such projects. The proposals can be the country; and t .• ken up for implementation after their (b) if so, tbe details regarding its evaluation and tying up of necessary functioning as well as tbe cost and location inputs~ etc. ? Linking of Bhiwadi and Alwar witb THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Modern Higher C,pacity Optical MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Fibre Tele('omrnulIicatioD NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Transmission System DUTT) : (a) and (b). The Oil and Natural Gas Commission has not taken a 1203. SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: decision for setting up an Institute of Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Petroleum Safety and Environmental be pleased to state : Management. (a) whether a bigber capacity modern Cooking Gas Distribution Agencies in optical fibre telecommunication tranimission Bangalole system is being introduced to link Delhi with Bombay via Jaipur during tbe Seventh 1205. SHRIMATI BASAVA- Five year Plan: RAJESWARI : Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be (b) whether Bhiwadi and Alwar pleased to state : (Rajasthan) are on the Miciowave Tele- communication transmiSSIon system and (a) tbe number of cookins gas distribu- are located in the telecommunication system tion agencies in Banlalore city; route from Delhi to Jaipur; and (b) whether it is a fact that tbere are a (c) wbether Government prop06e to link number of complaints api,nst tbese apncies; Bbiwadi and Alwar l\>WIlS of Rajasthan and also with modern higher capacity optical fibre telecommunication transmission system (c) if so. what action bas been taken by duriog tbe Seventh Five Year Plan '1 • Union Government ? THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY ,OF COMMUNICATIONS MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Yes. Sir. DUTT): (a) Presently there aro 43 LPG distributorships in operation in Banaaloro (b) At present Alwar is connected to City. New Delhi and Jaipur on Delhi.Jaipur Microwave system. (b) and (c). Complaints arc received against distributors by tbe oil companies io (c) Bhiwadi bas been proposed to be tbe normal course of operatioDS aod, after linked to De\bi·Jaipur Optical fibre route due enquiry, action is fa ken in accordance hy a spur optical fibre cable from Rewari wi th the prescribed Marketiol Disciplino durins the 7tb plan. Guidelines. I .. ~ .+ ,I 217 Wrltt.,. Alllwers KARTIKA 20. 1* (SAKA) 'Writt,,, Answer, 218 POIta) 8e"leeI ID Tripara, 'Manlpur (b) aDd (c). Administrative ·Approval and MlzoralD and Expenditure Sanction for this project bas been issued. Construction of the DOW 1206. SHRI AJOY BISW AS : Will the building will be commenced after demolition Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be of tbe old structure for which also approval pleased to state : bas been accorded. Construction J. expected to commence durin8 the current the number of new post offices and financial year and it will be completed in sub-post offices to be opened during Seventh about 3 years from its commencement. Five Year plan in Tripura, Manipur, and Mizoram; and Closing of Post Office. In Trlpura (b) the new schemes for expansion of 1208. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the postal services in these three States? Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether Government have decided (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) to close down some post offices in In view of tho continuing ban on creation Tripura; of postSt there are no proposals at present for sanctioning new post offices in Tripura, (b) if so, bow many post offices will be Manipur and Mizoram or any other State! closed down; Union Territory. 628 post offi~es in Tripura, 546 in Manipur and 277 in Mizo- (c) whether resentment has been ram are already functioning. expressed by different mass organisations of the State against closure of post offices; (b) A new scheme of Licensed Postal and Agents has been introduced since Jast year. Under this scheme, suitable institutions! (d) if so, whether Government will individuals are licensed to render certain reconsider the decision and allow the post basic postal facilities such a8 sale of postage offices to continue functioning? stamps and stationery, registration of postal articles and despatch of postal articles to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE post office. Such agencies are already MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS functioniog in Manipur and Tripura. (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (8) No, Sir. CODstruction of Multl.Storeyed BulldlDg for Head POlt Office at Agartala (b) to (d). The questions ,do not arise. 1207. saal AJOY BISWAS : Will t,he Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Recommendations 00 NatioDal Committee pleased to 8t~te : 00 Perlpecti,e Plauaiog of Petro- Chemical ladultr, (a) whether a multi-stroyed building is proposed to be constructed at Agartala for 1209. SHRt H.N. NANJE GOWDA: Head Post Office; SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : SHRI JAOANNATH PATT- (b) if so, tho causes for delay in comp]e- NAIK: tion of that building; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (c) the time by which if will be complet- pleased to state : ed? . (a) whether tbe National Committee OD THE MINISTER OF STAl'B IN THE Perspective Planning of Petrochemical MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Industry bas submitted its report; (SHR) SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Y•• Sir. (b) if 80. what are ita rocomm.datioQl, ~li 'Written Answers (0) whether Government bave examined of any roceuiooary trenda in these' two the recommendations and if so, decisiolls SectOll. tateo' thereon; and (b) In tbe case of liabt commercial (d) by what time tbese are likely to be vehicles. biab cost of production, hiah Implemented ? selliDI price and shortage of bank financiog are tbe main reasons for the decline in . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE demand. In the case of cement, slackness DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND in construction industry may have lead to a PETRO·CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY temporary decline in demand in some parts OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R:K. JAI- of the country. CHANDRA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) Representations have been received from some of these sectors for cencessions (b) The main recommendations made and reliefs such as reduction of excise duty by it for development of Petro-chemical and enhancement of retention price of Industry relate to supply and demand cement. The paper industry bas also made projections, technology alternatives, feed .. certain suggestione. for enhancing the stock availability locational considerations. Rand D programmes and facilities, and demand. traioiDI programmes and facUities. MaDufacture of 500 MW iodigenoul (c) and (d). The recommendations unit by BHEL require detailed consideration before a view 1211. SURI SATYENDRA NARAYAN is taken thereon. SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Recession In Consumer Goods Demand (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Blectri- 1210. SURI SATYENDRA NARAYAN cals Ltd., has completed manufacture of its SINHA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY first 500 MW indigenous unit; be pleased to state : (b) if so, what is its import content; (a) whether there is a recession in and demand ,of severa] consumer goods like r.friaerators. liabt ,ommercial vehic1es, (c) whether customers are insisfing 00 paper and cement; performance or otber guarantees from foreisn companies regarding its impoIt (b) if 80, tbo reasons thereof; and content? THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE (c) whether industria' unlts in tbese DBJ?ARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- aoctora have approached the Government in PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF regard to various concessions for stimulating INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWAItY): tbe demand? (a) Yes, Sir . . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The import content is 45% approxi. DBPAllTMBNT OF INDUSTRIAL mately. DBVELOPMENT IN THE MINJSTR Y OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· CHALAM) : (a) There bas been a slowing (c) In recent tenders there has been DO down in tbe rate of growth of demand for sucb stipulation. refrigerators and a substantial decline in the demand for light commercial vehicles in Generation of Resources by Public recent months. In the case of cement and Sector Units paper products, production has incroased in the current financial year as compared to 1212. SHRI BHATTAM SR1RAMA the corresponding period of the last MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY luaDGial year aDd tbere is no iodlcatioD be pleased to state : 221 Written J4nswers ICAllttKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer, 222 (a) wbether tbe Department of Public prises during the first year of the Seventh Bnterprises bas prepared a profile of all Five Year PlaD viz; 1985-86. as pet ADnual Public Sector units to assess the present plan document is Rs. 3438.64 crort•• situation in order to revamp tbem later; Against tbis,. tbe actual achievement by 43 Central Public Enterprises, based on ftasb (b) whether it is a fact tbac several reports for 1985-86, is Rs. 3185.32 crores. measures were proposed to revamp tbem which include waiving off part of Employees 10 Marutl Udyog Limited accumulated losses; and 1213. SHRI Will the (c) to what extent resource generation SIMON TIOGA: Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to bas taken place 80 far as against a target of state: Rs. 40,000 crore to be raised during the current Plan period ? (a) the number of employees in Marutl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Udyog .Limited. category-wise; and DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) the number and percentage of INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (8) employees belonging to Scbeduled Castol and (b). The Department bas been and Scheduled Tribes, category-wise? constantly reviewing tbe performance of Central Public Enterprises under its THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE administrative control with a view to DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER. improving their performance. Steps tbat are PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF considered necessary in individual cases arc INDUSTRY (PROF. K~K. TEWARY) : (a) taken including write off of accumulated and (b). Category-wise total number of losses in deserving cases. employees in Maruti Udyog Limited including employees belonging to Scheduled (c) The target of net internal resource Castes and Scheduled Tribes is given below: aeneration set for 4S Central Public Enter- Category Total Employees se/sT Employees Number Percentago Level 1-7 2,208 290 Leve) 8-10 467 15 Level 11-20 438 23 5% Trainees 132 5 4% Total 3,245 333 ----- Dealer. or Marull Car (b) tbe number and percentale of dealers belonging to Scheduled Calte and tbe 1214. SHRI SI.MON TIOGA: Will Scheduled Tribe category t State-wise; and Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) tbe details of the criteria of tbe Dumber of d~aJ~rs of Maruti reservation in dealership to Scbeduled Cas~~ par. State-wise; .. pd 'Scbe"uled Tribe ,*,ple ? 229 Written Anlw~rl NOVBMBER 11, 1986 W,ltt,,, Answer, 224 THB MINlSTBR. OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- 1 2 3 PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF -~------.~-'------~ ..... -,,,-,,,-.,..-- INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): (a) 18. Tamil Nadu 4 The information is given in tbe statement below. 19. Delhi S (b) Nil. 20. Goa 1 (c) No reservation was made for 21. Cbandi~rh 1 Sclredultd Caste and Scheduled Tribe in the aUotment 01 dealerships. Total 62 Statement Satellite Communication Tecbnology No. of Dealerships (State- Wi,e) Facllit, In Kerala SI. No. State No. of 1215. SHRI T. BASHEER: ·Will the Dealers Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: . 1 2 3 (a) the proposal to extend tbe satellite communication technology to tbe rural ~~ __ ~'''''_ ____~~''''''_4 __.~._.~ _" ...... ____" .~ ___ • 4 ___• _____ "_ ... remote and backward lireas of tbe country; 1. Jammu and Kashmir 2 and 2: Punjab 3 (b) tbe places earmarked for sucb facili ty in Kerala ? 3. Haryana 2 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 4. Rajasthan 3 MINISTRY OF CllMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) s. Himachal Pradesh 1 Yes, there is a proposal to set up 18 earth stations in Remote, Hilly and Backward 6. Uttar Pradesh 6 areas of the country. 7. Madbya Pradesb 6 (b) One eartb station at Ern8kulam bas been commissioned under INSAT Project. 8. Bibar 2 As KeraJa is having long distance micro- wave/coaxial links no additional eartb 9. West Bengal 3 stations bave been planned. Assam 10. 1 Proeurement of Rice and Wheat by Food Corporation or India 11. NaaaJand 1 12. Orissa 1 1216. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES 13. Mabarasb tra 7 be pleased to state tbe total procurement of rice and wheat separately by tbe Food 14. Gujarat 4 Corporation of India durin8 the years 198'. 86 and 1986· 87. State-wise ? .S. Karnataka 3 THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 16. Andbra Pradesh 3 MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI· .7. Kcrall\ ;J AZAl» : A statement is "~D belo~ ~ 225 WrItten A "sw,rs ICARTJICA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer, 22' Statement Procurement 0/ Rice and Wheat made directly 6y Food Corporation o/lndla durin, the 198j.86 and 1986.87 Marketinl Sea80"s ('OOO TODnes) State/U.T. Rice (including paddy in Wheat terms of Rice) 1985-86 1986-87* 1985-86 1986-87*. (April to Marcb) (October to September) Andbra Pradesh 1-572 1 Assam 17 Bihar NC8. Haryana 937 58 591 849 Karnataka 82 Madbya Pradesb 470 1 3 s Orissa 129 Punjab 3123 1088 1682 2507 Rajasthan 32 37 102 Uttar Pradesb 30 289 180 West Bengal 69 2 Arunachal Pradesh 4 Chandigarh 7 1 Delhi Neg. Pondicherry 7 Neg. _-"'- - '---"", -----,,------,,----- Total 6479 1149 2604 3643 • Position as on 31.10.1986. ·*Position as on 6.11.1986. Ncg.-Bclow 5~ tonncs. S.T.D. Facilitiesia Kerata (b) the names and number out of tbem likely to have direct dialling service witb 1217. SHRI T. BASHBBR ~ wm the foreign countries; and Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (c) the number and names of exchanges, which are expected to be linked by STD THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB 41. Tbodupuzha 42. Cheerpu MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) 43. Kolancherry 44. Olavakode There are 48 excbanacs in Kerala linked by lTD as OD date. Names of these exchanges 4S. Algapanagar 46. Ollur are aiVOD in tile Statement-I below. 47. Munnar 48. Vizhinjam (b) All tbe exchanses listed in Statement-I will ultimately bave direct Statement.. II dialliDi sena with foreiao countries. LI.~t of Exchanges in Kera/a to be linked Cc) Eleven more exchanges listed in by STD dUring the 7th Plan Statement-ll are expected to be linked by STO durin. the Seventh Plan in Kerala. 1. Nileswar 2. Tellicherry Statement-I 3. Varkala 4. Kanjirapally LIII 01 Excha1lge, In Kerala IInkl'd by 5. Kasaragod 6. Pathanamtbitta STD al Oil Date 7. Cranganore 8. Perinthalmanoa 1. Alloppey, 2. Alwaye 9. Ottapalam 10. Alathur 3. Cannanoro 4. Changa nn ur 11. Parue 5. Ernakulam. 6. Kottayam Production of Cement and Steps to '7. Kozhilcode 8. Kunnamkulam Improve Working of Mini Cement Plants 9. Narakkal 10. Palgbat 't218. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- 11. Quilon 12. Tiruvalla CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 13. Trichur 14. Trivandrum (a) the total production of cement in tbe IS. Nevyatinkara 16. Kottarakara country during 1984-85 and 1985-86 and the 17. Taliporamba 18. Mavelikara expected total production in 1986-87; 19. Angamally 20. Chalak udy (h) the percentage of the total production of cement accounted for by 21. Palai 22. Chowghat production from mini cement plants; 23. Guruvayur 24. AtingaJ (c) the steps, jf any, intended to be taken by Government to help the mini 2S. Sbertalai 26. Kalpeta cement plants to solve prohlems of transport and marketing; 27. Badeaara 28. Vaikom (d) whether Government intend to 29. Adoor 30. Malapuram introduce suitable legislation to allow mini cement plants to improve technology and 31. Manjeri 32. Kundara stilt remain within the definition of small scale industries; and 33. Iddl1kki 34. Irinjalkuda (e) if so, details thereof? 35. Cbinlavanam 36. Kothamanglam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 31. Mufttbupuzba 38. Pcrumbavoor DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF at. PUDlla 40. CblQ,lncborry IN DlJSrRY (SaRI M. ARUNA., .2~~ Written Answers KAktiKA 20, 1908 (S~KA) W,'~un AlMw", 210 CHALAM) : (8) and (b). Tbe required re,utar bodies. Tbey are or"Q~ n.,r.. Jbr 'information is as under: by the State Legal Aid and Ad\'i~ h.af$ as voluntary apneic:t•• (in million tonDea) (b) Accordi~1 to .". i~ availabJe with the Committee for Imple- Year Total pro- Percentage of produc- mentiog Legal Aid Schemes. tbe number of duction of tion of tbe mIDI casas disposed of state-wise. so far. is as cement cement plants to the follows total production 1984-85 30.17 1.62 S.No. Name of the Cases Disposed State of 1985·86 33.10 2.93 1986-87 ,36.50 3.1S 1. And bra Pradesb 8207 (Target) 2. Bihar 6889 (c) Mini cement plants are set up inter- alia to reduce burden on railway trans- 3. Gujarat 20210 portation and to meet the neighbourhood demand. These plants mos Uy use road 4. Karnataka 741 transportation. These plants are also free to market their production as they are 5. Madhya Pradesh 319 exempt from price and distribution controls which are applicable to large cement plants. (Figures are for 1st Lok AdaJat out of 3 held in the State) (d) and Ce). No legislation is contemplated with regard to the mini cement 6. Haryana 7307 plants. However, Government's policy is 7. Mabarashtra to encourage Mini Cement Plants based on 4809 Vertical Shaft Kiln technology, as compared to the Rotary Kiln Technology, this (Figures are on the basis of financial technology has certain advantageous in terms year and upto 31st March, 1986) of lower investment costs, relatively less 8. Orissa 376 pollution, usage of coke breeze instead of coal, etc. 9. Rajasthan 192034 [Trans/ation] 10. Tamil Nadu 113 F'uDctioning of Lok Adalats in States 11. Uttar Pradesh 91479 1219. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: Will the 12. Delhi 867 Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: 13. Pondicberry 37 (a) the number of 'Lok Adalats' functioning in each State during tbe current Fan in Production In Scooters lad'. year so (ar; and Limited (b) tbe number of cases disposed of so 1220. SHR} VILAS MUTIEMWAR : far, State-wise? SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be THE MINISTER ,OF ,STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H .R. BHARDWAJ): (a) Lok (a) the reasons for fall ill Pfoduction in Adalats arc Dot constituted' to function as Scooters India Limited. a Government of " . '1!1 Written Answers ""'tle,, Anaw." 2'2 India Enterprise, every year since 1982 with (d) the Dumber of ofBccrs at preseDt details of production during each year; working in tbe enterprise and tbe total amount beiDg spent per year on tbeir pay, (b) the steps taken for the moderni- allowances and otber benofits ? satioD of tbe aforesaid enterprise witb rcsults thereof; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- (c) whether it is a fact that Government PRISES IN THE MINISTRY, OF have decided to retrench the employees in INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): tbe aforesaid enterprise and if so, the criteria (8) Year-wise ProductioD adopted for tbis purpose and the number-of employees proposed to be retrenched; and Year Two-wheelers Three-wheelers Fans ._------_ ...... 1982-83 36,756 38S 38.482 1983-84 22,619 788 37,679 1984-85 27.722 950 37,259 1985-86 23,992 1234 53,513 The main reasons for the low production Will the Minister of FOOD AND are: CIVIL SUPPLIES be pJeased to state: (i) production constraints resulting in (a) whether tbe Karoataka State Rice low capacity utilisation. Millers Association have requested for the exemption of Karnataka State from Food (ii) consumer preference for other Procurement Programme; and makes of scooters; and (b) if 80, the action taken in tbis (iii) poor liquidity due to continuing regard? losses. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). The question of restructuring l\llNISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL including rationalisation of manpower of the SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI Scooters India Limited. in order to make it AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. a viable unit is being examined. (d) The number of Officers in Scooters (b) The rcquesC was Dot acceded to India Ltd. as on 31.10.86 in 213. The for tbe reason that no major change in the suggested by total amount being spent OD their pay and procurement policy. as the allowances works out to Rs. 79.44 lakhs per AssociatioD, was feasible in the prevailinl ),ear at current futes. circumstances. [E",1/lh] Setting up of Maogalore Refinery Exemption from Food Procurement in 1222. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : Karoataka State SHRI VDAY N. PATIL : 1221. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM SHRI NARSING SURYA· AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to WANSHI: stato : I . ". ~.",. ' Written Answers KAIlTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 234 (a) wbether any decision bas bccn taken (c) tlie state-wise sch~mes drawn up to by Government to continue t be policy of expand the network of supply of cookins importinl petroleum products or to gas both in urban and rural areas of the creat additional refinery capacity in the country during the next three years '1 country; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) if not, when tbo decision will be MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND taken; NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (8) and Ccl. Any shortfalls in the (c) whether it is a fact that the setting up indigenous availability of the 'special kind of of Mangalore Refinery is still pending due steel required for LPG cylinders are met to final decision not having been taken through imports from time to time. about creating additional refinery capacity io Efforts are being made to step-up the country; and indigenous production of this variety of steel. (d) if not, tbe reasons for delay in setting up Mangalore Refinery 1 (b) and (d). The steel requirements of LPG cylinder manufacturing units are belna THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE met through indigenous and imported steel. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND These units have not suffered for want of NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA availability of this steel. Release of new DUTT) : (a) to Cd). In order to meet the LPG connections or supplies to existing demand, petroleum products are imported consumers have also Dot suffered in the to supplement tbe production from the recent past for lack of steel. refineries in India. (e) Release of new connection is made During the exercises made for financing under the annual customer enrolment the 7th PJan Projects it was found that a programme of the oil industry and is serious resource constraint was coming in determined by augmentation in availability the way of implementing the Mangalore of LPG, bottling capacity, transportation Refinery in the public sector. Hence and other infrastructure facilities. It is Government is considering tbe setting up of proposed to enrol the foHowing numbers of this refinery in the joint sector. Offers new customers in the country during the received from various private parties for next three years: participation in tbis joint venture are being examined. 1987·88 18.0 lakes (prov.) Import of Steel by Manufacturers or 1988·89 18.0 lakhs (prov.) Cooking Gas Cy IInders 1989-90 18.0 lakhs (prov.) 1223. SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: [Translation] (a) wbether it is a fact t~at steel of Electrification of Plploda under Sallaaa superior quality bas to be Imported by Legislative Assembly CODstituency. M.P. manufacturers of cookins gas cylinders; 1224. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGJ.f : (b) if so, the number of projects tbat Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to have beeo delayed because of the non- state : availability of steel of required quality; (a) the details of profit and Joss or the (c) tbe steps taken to meet tbe demand Rural Electrification Corporation for the of steel from jodi,eoous sources; last three years aod whether keeping in view tbe profit earned by the Corporation (d) the particulars of the schemes that Government propose to consider t.he are 8utrering duo to tbe lack of supply of question of adv8ncinB Joan by tbe Cor· aU cylinders; and poratioD for electrification in adivasi. 23S Written Answers NOVBMBER II, t 986 Written Answers 236 iaaccessib1e and remote areas at a "low rate Will the Minister of PETROLEUM of interest; AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to ftatc : (b) tbe number of proposals for electri- fication received from Madbya Pradesh (a) the number of dealerships of which are pending indicating the date since petroleum products and LPG advertised but when each proposal is pending along with not filled during 1985-86, State-wise and tbe expenditure involved in each proposal company-wise; and the time by which they are likely to be cleared; and (b) the number of additional dealer- ships approved for 1986-87, State-wise and (c) the date from which the ~cheme for company-wise: electrification of Piploda development block which is a part of Jhabua Adivasi (c) the number of applications by , Parliamentary Constituency and falls under categories of applicants, for dealership Sailana Legislative Assembly constituency, pending with various companies as on 31st is pending and the time by which this March, 1984: and scheme is likely to be cleared '/ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the steps taken by Government for DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE rational distribution of r~tail outlets among MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI various cClmpanies and for reducing the SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) The nct plofit backlog nnd the processil)g lime '! after tax earned by the Rural Electrification Corporation during the last three years was THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Rs. 12.21 crores during 1983·84. Rs. 13.32 MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND crores during 1984-85 and Rs. 16.19 crores NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA during 1985-86. DUTT) : (a) The requisite information is given in the Statement laid on the Table of As it is, tbe Rural Electrification Cor- the House. [Placed In Library. See No. poration have prescribed lower rate of L T .3215/86] interest on the loans advanced to the State (b) The requisite information pertaining Electricity Boards for electrification of areas to Retail Outlet Deaferships and SKO"LDO inhabited by Tribals and Harijans. dealerships is given in tbe statement laid on (b) A statement of proposals cf Madhya the Table of the House. [Placed in Library. Pradesh Electricity Board, pending with the See No. LT-3215/86] The Marketing Plan Rural Electrification Corporation is laid on for 1986-87 for LPG distributorships is yet the Table of the House. [Placed in Library. to be finalised, See No. LT-3l14/86] (c) The information is not readily The schemes would be sanctioned during available. the cQrrent year subject to the same being techno-economically viable, avaiJabiHty of (d) The sharing of HSD retail out1ets funds etc. between tbe oil marketing companies is done 00 the basis of ,principles prescribed by (c) The Rural Electrification schemes Government. While the setting up of new for Piploda' block of district Ratlarn for a retail outlets is a continuous process, tbe loan assistaoce of Rs. 67.85 lakbs has demand for free sale products Ijke HSD already been aanctioned by the Corpora- and MS in tbe country is being met in full tion. through tbe exist ing ou dets. [English] Formulation of New TelecommunlcatloDs Policy Appointment of Dealers or Petroleum Products and L P .G. 1226. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL: Will tbe Minister of 1225. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : COMM UNICATIONS be pleased to SHRI AMARSINHIRATHAWA : state : ~3'7 Written An_'werl KAl\ TIKA 20. 1908 (8) whother Government propose to (b) if 80, the expected increase in formulate a new telecommunications policy; production of plastic products by next and year? (b) if so, the outline thereof and the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN tHB objectives in view? DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY THE MINIStER OF STATE IN THE OF INDUSTRY (SARI R.K. JAI- MINISTRY UF COMMUNICATIONS CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) A number of (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) measures to increase productivity of plastic Yes, Sir. products have been initiated. (b) The outline and objective of the (b) The increase in productivity will Telecommunication policy would be Jead to increased production of plastic enumerated when the poJicy I>aper is presen- products. It is, however, not possible to ted to tbe Lok Sabba. indicate the Quantum of expected increase on this account. Computerisations of Data on Small Scale Industries Output of Ramagundam Super Tbermal Project 1227. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL : Will the Minister of 1229. SHRI O. BHOOPATHY: Will INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (a) whether it is proposed to computerise state : data on small scale industrial units with a view to effectively monitor the development (a) the present output of Ramagundam of this sector; Super Therma) Project; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) the approximate date of commence- (c) when the work would be taken ment of production of tbe fourth unit and up? its expected output ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRiMATI INDUSTRY ~SHRI M. ARUNA· SUSHJLA ROHTAGI) (a) Three I. to (c). on some CHALAM): Data units of 200 MW each are presently in aspects of small scale sector are beioS operation at the Ramagundam Super processed utilising computer facilities from Thermal P{)wer Project. The Station bas outside agencies. Details regarding a generated 1876 'million Kwh of power proposal for installation of a personal during the period Aprial.September. 1986 at computer in the Office of Development a Plant Load Factor of 71.2%. Commissioner (Small Scale Indstries) by the National Informatics Centre have not bern (b) The fourth unit (500 MW) is finalised. expected to be commissioned by July, 1988. Production of Plastic Products 1228. SHRI G.. BHOOPATHY : Will [Trans/atlon1 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Cooking Gas ..~,g('nefes in RaJasthln (a) whether Government have formulat- 1230. SHRI BANWARJ lAL ed any proposa! for bringing about BAIRWA: Will t}1e Minister of PE1RO- improvement in productivity 9f plastic LEUM AND NATVRAL GAS be ple~s<:~ prodllClS; ana to 8t~te : 239 WrItten Answers NOVEMBER 11. 1986 Written Answers 240 . the district-wise number of oookini gas agencies operating in 1 2 3 Rajasthan; ----_._-_ 13. Churu 3 (b) whether it is a fact that the State is Jagging behind in cooking gas supply as 14. DhoJpur 1 compared to other States, and if so, steps taken for opening new gas agencies; IS. Alwar 4 and 16. Sikar 2 (c) the details of the arrangements made for supply of gas cylinders to the consumers 17. Ajmer 8 residing in the areas outside the jurisdiction of a dealer? 18. Sriganganapr 3 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 19. Bundi I MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A 20. Bharatpur 3 DUTI) : (a) A statemoent is given below. 21. Bhilwara 2 (b) No, Sir. 22. Jalore 1 (c) As a rule, LPG distributors can supply refills only within the area of their 23. Jhunjhunun 2 jurisd iction. 24. Sawai Madbopur 3 Statentent 2S. Tonk 1 26. Nagaur S.No. District No. of Distri- 1 butors 27. Pali 1 -_._------.- .. -.~ .. ,. __._------_ 1 2 3 94 1. Jaipur 20 [English] 2. Jodhput 8 3. Kota 8 Amendment to India n Evidence Act 4. Bikaner 1231. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: WilJ the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE 5. Cbittorgarh 3 be pleased to state: 6. JhaJawar 2 (a) whether Government propose to amend Indian Evidence Act to deal effecti- 7. Udaipur 6 vely with the offences of terrorism; 8. DUDgarpur 1 (b) if so, sailent features of these amendments; and 9. Sirohi 2 (c) when the amending Bill is proposed to be brought before Parliament? 10. Banswara 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 11. Nagaur 1 MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHR) H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) No. Sir. rb~ rerroris~ and pisruptive ~c~ivi~l" 241 Wrltt,n Answers KAR nKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Wrltt,,, Answ,rs 242 (prevention) Act, 1985 (31 of 1985), a (c) whether Government contemplates special law eoacted for the prevention of, estabJishing such tribunals in tbe capitals of and for coping with, terrorist and disrup- each Union Territory? tive activities contains ample provisions to deal effectively witb tbe . offences of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB terrorism. There is no therefore no need MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICB to amend the Indian Evidence Act. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) There are thirty"eight Benches of the Income- (b) and (c). Do not arise. tax Appellate Trjbunal in the country out of which 34 are functioning at present. Exemption from Coort feel (b) No, sir. 1232. SHRT SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (c) No, sir. be pleased to state : Reciprocal Arrangements with foreign (a) whether Government are consi- Countries for service of summODI dering a proposal for selective exemption Civil suits and execution of from the payment of court fees; decree (b) if so, the details thereof; and 1234. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will tbe Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (c) the names of tbe States and be pleased to state: Union Territories which have agreed to this proposal? (a) the names of the countries witb whom India has reciprocal arrangements THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for service of summons in civil and suits MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE execution of decrees: (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) to (c) The Law Commission bas been entrusted with the (b) the names of tbe countries with study of reforms in judicial administration whom such arrangements are proposed to and make recommendations. One of the be made; end terms relate to study of the cost of litigation with a view to lessening abe burden on litigants. The report of the Committee (c) the details of Government's ex- of Law Ministers regarding tbe abolition of perience with respect to tbe working of the Court Fee has, therefore been referred to arrangements ? tbe Law Commission for their study and recommendation in this regard. Appropriate THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE decision would be taken on receipt of MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE report of tbe Law Commission. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) The names of the countries with whom India Proposal for more Incnme Tax Appellate bas reciprocal arraogements for service of Tribunals summons in civil suits aod execution of decrees are given in the statement below. 1233. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (b) and (c). According to the infor- be pleased to state : mation furnished by the Ministry of External Affairs, there is no proposal at (a) tbe number of Income Tax present to enter ioto fresh reciprocal Appellate Tribunals functioning in tbe arrangements with fOleign countries. country; The experience with foreigD countries (b) whether Government propose to with which the Government of India bave establilh more sucb tribltDals in tbe countr,; entered into such arranaements witb tbe ad . . , exception of Nepal. is satisfactory. P. •... ~ . \ ,. 243 Written Answ,rs NOVEMBER 11. 1986 Written Answers 244 Statement Recipiocral Arrrangemenls with/ore/In Countrle, No. of summonses aod Execuion of civil Enforcement of Administrator processes under Section Degrees under Maintenance General's 29 (c) of C.P.C. Sec.44A C.P.C. under Section 3 Act. 1913 of tbe Maintenance under Section orders Enforcement 57. (This Act Act, 1921 stands repeal- ed by Act. 1963) 1 2 3 4 1. BaDal. nesh l. Aden 1. Australia 1. Afghanis- Capital Terri- tan tory 2. Belalum 2. Hongkong 2. Australia 2. Argentina Federation of Northern Malaya *Territory 3. Burma 3. Fiji Islands 3. Basutoland, 3. Czechs- Bechunaland lovakia 4. Ceylon 4. Honkong 4. Burma Saziland 4. Denmark s. Baypt s. Papua New 5. Cey Ion Protec- s. Iraq Guinea torate' 6. France 6. Sikkim 6. Cocos (Keeling) 6. Iran Islands 1. Iraq 7. Singapore 7. Colony of 7. Poland Straits and settlements 8. Japan 8. Trinidad and 8. England and 8. U.S.A. Tobago Ireland 9. Kenya 9. United Kingdom 9. Federation of Malaya 10. Malaya. Federa .. 10. Victoria 10 .. Fiji Islands dOD of 11. Nepal 11. Western Samoa, 11. Isle of Mam Newzealand and Cook Islands 12. Pakistan 12. Kenya 13. Pel'lia 13. Malawi (Blantyre) MauritiQ8 .~. fOI1\1"\ ~4. 24~ Written Answers KAR.TIK.A 20. 1908 (SitKA) W, ltt,,. ~",w'r8 246 1 2 3 4 IS. Russia 15. Northern Rhodelia (Zambia) 16. Singapore 16. Southern Rhodesia 17. Sikkim 17. Sarawak 18. Spain 18. Seycbellos 19. Sweden 19. Singapore 20. Somalil and Protectorate 21. Uganda Protectorate 22. Zanzibar *Western Australia Grants to Supreme Court and Higb Courts salaries, allowances and pension payable to for Providing Facilities to Litigant or in respect of tbe Officers and Servants of the Court is required to be met by tbe 1235. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : respective State Governments. As intima- Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE ted by the State Governments and Registry be pleased to state: of the Supreme Court Telex machines have been installed in various Hiah Courts and (a) whether Government have con- Supreme Court. The supply of word pro- sidered the question of giving specific grants cessors to the Supreme Court is receivlDI to various High Courts for the construction the attention of tbe Central Government. extension of their buildings and providiDg facilities to litigant public; Cement Production 10 ADdhra Pradesh aod Steps to lo~rea.e Itl (b) whether there is any proposal for living grants to Supreme Court/High Courts Production for modernisation of their office equipments 1236. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: such as introduction of word processors etc. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to provide copies of judgements and other to state: documents to the litigant public without any long waiting time; and (a) the total quantity of cement pro- duced in Andbra Pradesb durinl tbe yearl (c) if so, the detai1s thereof 1 1985 and 1986; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the steps taken by Government to MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE increase its production ? (SHRi H,R. BHARDW AJ): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (b) and (c). Under Article 229 (3) of DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF tbe Constitution, tbe Administrative ex- INDUSTRY (SHRt M. ARUNA- penses of a Hiab Court. incJudiDI all CHALAM) : The ProductioD of cement 247 Written A.nswer, NOVBMBBR 11. J986 Written Answers 248 in tho factories in Andhra Pradesh during (c) the names of companies which have tbe year 1985 was around 5.16 In i1l iOD been granted letters of inteDt with places tonnes and durios 1986 (upto August) was of location of factories ? 3.63 million tonnes. (The production in the whole year 1986 is likely to be around 5.S THE MINISTER OF STATEIN THE million tonnes. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY (b) Besides the various efforts being OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- made to encourage maximum utilisation CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The position of existing capacities by removing infra- in regard to the number of applications structura1 constraints, new capacities have received, tbe applications rejected also been sanctioned. Schemes of expan the applications pending and the sions and modernisation which can rna teria- letters of intent issued for setting up of lise expeditiously are beingen couraged. cement plants in Gujarat during the last three years in given below : Applications Received for Cement Factories iu Gujarat 1983 1984 1985 1237. SHRI RANJITSINGH GAEK- WAD: Win the Minister of INDUSTRY Applications received 8 11 5 be pleased to state: Letters of intent 2 6 3 the number of applications issued received for setting up cement factories in Rejected 6 5 2 Gujarat during the last tbree years; Pending Nil Nil Nil (b) the number of applications rejected, letters of intent issued and num· ber of applications pending for disposal; (c) Details are given in the statement and below. Statement SI.. Name of the Company J Capacity ,Location of the Unit No. Person (LTPA) I 2 3 4 Letters of Intent 1. Sbri S.K. Oadbvi 0.66 PaJanJjur, District BaDask· aotba 2. Sbri A.V. Salsaokar 5.00 Lakpat, Kutch Diatt. 3. Sbree Di8vijay Cement Co. Ltd. 4.85 (SE) Disvijaygram Jamnagar Distt. 4. M!s. Mysore Cements Ltd. 10.00 Vetava! (cliokcriDI) Juoagarh Distt. and Rajkot (Grindioa) 5. Shri 'Hasbmakb Vinodlal Mehta 0.66 Daota. Dian. Banaskantba 6. Sbri Lalu Taraohand Dans ali 0.66 DaDta, Distt. Banaltantha ~ , .1 249 W,ltte" A.IISW'''S KAa.TIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) WriJten .Am.", 2$0 I 2 3 4 7. MIs. Arbuda Cements Ltd. 5.00------Khedbrabma Distt. Sabar- kantba 8. MIs. Hindustao Development 0.60 Danta, Ambaji Dt. Banal- Corporation Ltd. kantha·Since cancelled 9. MIs. Sourashtra Cement and 3.30 (SB) Ranavav Distt. Junagarb Chemical Ltd. 10. MIs. Gujarat Ambuja Cements 7.00 (SE) Kodinar Distt. Amreli Limited 11. MIs. Paras Cement and Chemicals 0.66 Palasara. Junagarh Dt. Industries (Gujarat) Ltd . . _._---- Settiog up or Gas Based Power Plaot. WAD: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY io Gujarat be pleased to state : 1238. SHRI RANJITSINGH GAEK- (a) whether a proposal for setting WAD: Will the M'inister of PETRO- up a petrochemical complex ncar Hajira LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased in Gujarat in Joint Sector is pendiog to state: clearance for a long time; and (a) whether it is fact tbat the deve- (b) if so, the reasons for deJay in lopment of the Gandbar oilfields Gujarat clearing tbe project '1 bas opened vast possibilities for gas-based power plants and petrochemical units; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (b) tbe estimated total availability of PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY natural gas to Oujarat from tbe Gandhar OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- Oilfields by the end of Seventh Five Year CHANDRA SINGH): ,a) and (b). 'Final Plan period; decision on tbe proposal for tbe setting up of a petrochemical complex in Oujarat (c) the number of gas based power plants will be taken in due course after a number that would be established in Gujarat from of issues relating to availability of feedstock, out of tbe natural sas available from tbe tie up of resources etc. are resolved. fJandbar oi1ftel~s; and FUDctloning of Lot Adalats In GuJarat (d) tbe plaoes of their location and tbeir generating capacity ? 1240. SHRIMATI PATEL ~AMABEN RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Minister LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA to state: DUTT): (d) if so, tbe decision taken in the Uttar Pradesh 91.479 matter; and Delhi 867 (e) what is the set up and procedure of conducting Lok Adalat and bow the Pondicberry 37 cases are being processed and scrutinised ror inclusion in the Lok AdaJat ? (c) Gujarat State Legal Aid and Advice Board received a request from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Co-operative Bar A Ilsociation to hold a MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Lok Adalat for cases of civil nature filed (SHRI H.R. BHARDW Al) : According to in the Court of Registrar's nominee under tbe information received from committee Gujarat Co-operative Societies Act. . for Implementing Legal Aid Scheme : (d) The Gujarat State Legal Aid and (a) 129 Lok Adalats in the State of Advice Board bas accepted this request and Gujarflt and 549 Lok Adalats in other has agreed to hold a Lok Adalat for cases parts of the country have been held. pending in the Court of Registrar's Nominee. Tbe Co-operative Bar Association was (b) The details of cases disposed of requested by the Member-Secretary of the in the Lok Adalats held in the State of Board to make preliminary arrangements. Oujarat during 1st January, J985 to 31st October, 1986 a re as under : (e) Lok Adalat is a voluntary agency for settlement of disputes through concilia- Civil 2,444 tory method. Wben tbe State Legal Aid and Adyjce Board is approached by one Civil Execution 5 of tbe parties to tbe dispute, the Board ap- proaches tbe other party and through Criminal 1,150 persuasive measures. tries to motivate the other party for a compromise/amicable Revenue 185 settlement. The matter is taken up, if both the parties are agreeable, before the Matrimonial 355 Lok Adalat and a settlement is recorded if parties come to a mutual settlement. The M.A.C.T. 3,711 final decree on such a settlement is then passed by the concerned Court. Misc. 1.. 679 Capacity Utilisation by Mining and Tbe details of cases so far disposed of Allied Machinery Corporation by Lok Adalats in other States are as follows: 1241. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Andbra Pradesh 8.207 Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be plcased to state: Bihar 6,889 (a) whether it is a fact that the Mining and Allied Machinery Corporation has not Haryana 7,309 made any profit since its inception; Karnataka 741 (b) tbe total losses accumulated by the Corporation as on 31st March, 1986; Madhya PI adesb 319 (c) the average utilisation rate of its Maharasbtra 4,809 installed capacity since its inception; Orissa 376 (d) whether the said Corporation has succeeded in getting adequate orders from Rajasthan 1,92,034 the coal-mining industry; and Tamil Nadu 113 (0) jf not, tho reasons tbereof ? 2SJ Written Answers KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) -Written Answers 254 THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER- DBPARTMENr OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE .. PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (PROF. K.K. TEWARY): INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· (a) No, Sir. Mining and Allied Machinery CHALAM): (a) The number of Items Corporation had made marginal profits reserved for exclusive' manufacture in the during the years 1972-73 to 1976·77. small scale sector as at the end of October, 1986 is 863. Names of tbe items have been (b) The cumulative loss of the company published in Gazette of India extra-ordinary. as on 31-3.1986 is about Rs. 156 crOTes. Part-n. Section 3, Sub-section (II) vide notifications dated, 26th April, 1978, 30tb December 1978, 12th May. 1980, 19tb (c) The average utilisation of installed February. 1981, 3rd August, 1981, 23rd capacity has ranged from 50% to 83%. December, 1981, 14th October,' 1982, 19th October, J 982, 3rd September, (d) and (e). With persistent efforts tbe 1983 (two notifications), 18th October, Corporation hilS been ab1e to improve its 1984, 30th May, 1986 and 30th order book position (rom the coal mining October, 1986. A consolidated and updated industry. list of items reserved for manufacture by small scale sector is available in tbe Library Items reserved for Small Scale Sector of Lok Sabba Secretariat. 1242. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: (b) A Jist of items which were earlier Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be reserved for this sector and which bave pleased to lay a statement showing : subsequently been de reserved and another list of items in respect 'or which tbe (a) the up-to-date list of items reserved nomenclature was modified since Januray for manufacture by the small scale sector; 1985 are given in Statement I and II below. (b) the list of items which were earlier reserved for this sector and which have been (c) A list of items which were not 10 subsequently dereserved since January. reserved earlier and which bave been 1985; reserved now is given in the Statement III below. (c) the list of items, if any, which were not so reserved earlier and which have been reserved now; and (d) The annual value of production is estimated for the smalJ scale sector as a (d) the estimated value of annual whole and not separately for reserved production of the above reserved as well as and dereserved items. dereserved items ? Statement .. I Lilt of Items n,l'eserved since January 1985 SI.No. SI. no. as Product Code Name of the Item per Gazette Number Notification 1 2 3 4 .1. 218 312301 Jridino 30396~ PJa.tic~ 328 (2) Roofiog, Tiles- , ~5 Written Answ" I ' NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 Written Answers 25~ 1 2 3 4 ·3. 329 (2) 303938 Flooring Tiles-Plastic 329 (4) 321933 Floorina Tiles-Glass. s. 332 321402 Olass Tube. 6. 346 328904 Siazed Tiles upto 10 Cms. X 10 Cms. 7. 46S 343802 Nail Cutters. 8. 537 359942 Sbeep Shearing Machine. 9. S67 36370302 Cooking ranges upto 4 bot plates! boiler plates with/without baking oven bot cases upto 4 K W. 10. 601 A 36430501 TV Reflection Components. ll. 606 364906 Electronic Cigarette Lighters. 12. 618 369959 Electronic Flash GUDS. 13. 619 369970 Hearing Aids. 14. 656 374861 Handles and Locks-auto. IS. 88 290602 Lining Leatber from Ooat and Sbeep Skins. 16. 89 29090201 Laminated Leather Belting. 17. 498 349945 Measuring Tapes-Steel. 18. S13D 354804 Clicking knives for Leather Industry. 19. 611 36690S Digital Clocks. 20. 782 382t0201 Time Pieces-Mechanical winding with Alarm CODventional. 21. 803 389401 Non-Mechanical Toys. Note: Items marked with asterisk are only sub-items. Effective number of item. de-res"rvcd is 18. 2St 25' Written A"IW~rl IC.ARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written. Answtrl State.eat-II List oj It,,,,, In ".peel of·whlch the nomenclature ~a, modl/i~d "nee January, 1985 ____ .~. ".___..______-. ____ ~ 4_ ._ ...... __ ,~. ___ ._. __ ~ ___ c·· _-- w., .... __ ...... ·__ . __ - -- _-_-_. -.~' -~--- .- . ----.... S. No. S. No. as Oriainal nomenclature Product Modified Domencla- Product per gazette of tbe item Code ture of the item Code notification No. No. 1 2 3 4 S 6 ~---.. 1. 138 Plastic Collapsible 303704 Plastic Collapsible 30370401 Tubes Tubes except laminated. 2. 141 Polyurethane foam 30390101 Flexible Polyure .. 30390103 thane foam. 3. 142 Polyurethane foam 30390102 Flexible Polyure- 30390104 products. tbane foam products and Polyurethane 30393105 Shoe Soles. 4. 141 Polystyrene foam 303902 Polystyrene foam 30390201 products products except slabs for expandablo polystyrene beads manufacturers. s. 148 Zip fasteners- 303913 Zip fasteners-Non- 30391301 NOD-metallic metallic except in tbe case of integrat- ed plants manu- facturing aU components. 6. 239 Bonzyl Chloride 310649 Benzyl Chloride 31064900 (except for captive consumption). '1. 250 Polyester Resins 316201 Polyester Resins 3162010J Unsaturated. 8. 284 Precipitated Silica 310364 Precipitated Silica 31036401 except fumed silica. 9. 387 Zip Fasteners 340906 Zip fasteners 34090601 Metallic metallic except in the case of integrated plant manufacturing an components. ~O. 510 Dietel enaincs upto 35230101 Diesel Engines 35230103 15 lIP-slow speed upto 15 HP slow spted olcept tboso ~ Wrltt,,, An,wera NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 Written AftSw.ra 26() 1 2 3 4 s 6 with specific fuel consump tion leu tban 180 ltD. per BHP/per bour. II. 564 Electric Irons- 363170101 Electric IroDs other 36370102 Ordinary I Auto tban Steam 1'008 Steam-upto 3.63 k,. 12. 584 Washing machine 36372601 Domestic Washing 36372602 with/without Machine other Spin driers upto than programmable 3.63 ka. Cap/ type. upto 3 KW. 13. 58S Bakiol Ovens with/ 3 ()3727 Baking Ovens witb/ 36372701 witbout provision without provision for Roastiog/grilling for roasting/grilliog upto 56.6 Litres and upto 56.6 litres 1 KW. and 1 K W otber than microwave ovens. 14. 587 Electrical Wiring 363804 Electrical wiring 36380401 Accessories. accessories other than switches, plugs and sockets. IS. S97 Metal Clad Switches ... 36991601 Metal Clad 36991602 upto 100 Amps/ Switches upto Miniature circuit 100 amps. breakers. 16. 600 T.V. Tuners 364303 TV Tuners 36430301 excluding Electronic Tuners 17. 652 Exbaust Muftlers- 374874 Exhaust Muftlers- 37487401 Auto Auto other tban Double Coil exhaust mufflers. 18. 682 Spokes and Nipples- 375804 Spokes and 37580401 Auto Cycle. Nipples-Auto Cycles other tban swased type. Confectionery 2090201 Confectionery 20920101 1'- (e~ce.,t cltocolat~$) excluding chocolates. toffees and Cbewin, Oum~, ~t Written A.nswers I(A~:tlKA 20. istoS (SAKA) Wrltt,,; A",w", 2G 1 .2 3 4 , 20. 15 Poultry Feed 216201 Poultry Peed 21620101 except 10 Pellet form. 21. 16 Ground and Proccucd 219201 Ground aod Ptoea- 21920101 Spices sed Spices other tbaD Spice Oil and Oleo Resin Spices. 22. 1568 Coke Briquettes 307001 Coke Briquettes 30700101 (except Lignite and used as domestic for integrated pJants) fucl. 23. lS6C Coal Briquettes 307002 Coal Briquettes 30700201 (except Lignite and (except )i.nite) for iDtearatod plants) used as domestic fuel. 24. 596 EJectric Transmission 36990401 Electric Transmlt- 36990401 line haedware and sion Line Hardware accessories other aod Acce8sories thaD tbose manu- otber tban tbose factured in mellea ble manuractured In castings and pre- malleable caatinJi. formed types. preformed type aDd for linea of 400 K V and above ooly (subject to ita beiDI manufactured In an iDtesrated plant). Statement.111 Li.t olltem. Reserved .Inee Ja"uary '85 SI. No. SI. No. as Product Code Name or tbo Item per Gazette Number Notification 1 2 3 4 1. SA 20530102 Pastry 2. 16C 224302 Synthetio Spru.,.. 3. l07A 301107009 Moulded Rubber So... ad Heel. for Footwear (exeept for captive GODlU!DPtloa) 4. 330A 321002 Block OJ.. ~ W,tttln Msw,rl NOVBMBER 11. 1986 1 2 3 4 5. 330B 321003 Vltrlte Olasl (except for captive Use) 6. 467A 344029 Vitreow Enamel Hollow- wares and slates 7. 792A 381102 Opthalmic Lenses from Blanks 8. 318B 319603 Sodium Sa~barinc Progress or Dhankuoi Coal CompJex project has got dela)ed due to initial Project, West Bengal difficulties in land filling at sUe, import of tecbnology and delay in procurement of 1243. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA equipment etc. SINHA: SHRIMATI BlBHA GHOSH Now the project is making considerable GOSWAMI: progress and is already in an advanced stage of completion. The project is likely to Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be be completed by mid 1987. National pleased to state : Projects Construction Corporation have almost completed the construction of the (a) whether any progress bas been ~ade township and a major part of the work In tbe Dankuni Coal Complex proJect. being handled by Heavy Engineering Corpo- West Bengal; ration bas also been completed. Escalation, on account of increase .in interest charges (b) whether the completion of the and revenue expenses, bas been estimated as project has been delayed and if so, the Rs. 11 crores approximately. To ensure early extent thereof; completion of the project, tbe following steps ba ve already been taken : (c) whether tbe Heavy Engineering Corporation and National Projects. Con- (i) Close monitorina of the project at struction Corporation have both failed to various levels; adhere to tbe schedu1ed date of supply of the machinery for the project; (ii) HEC bas strengthened its supervi ... (d) if so, tbe details thereof; sion to streamline tbo work at site; (e) tbe extent and value of cost escala- (iii) Multiple sbifts have been introduc- tion in tbe total cost of project due to ed; and delay; and (iv) Man power (f) tbe steps proposed to expedite tbe aUlmcoted. project 1 Telephone Service betweeD Berhampore THE MINISTER OF ENERGY· (SHR~ Bod Calcutta VASANT SATHE) : (a) to (f). DankunJ Coal Complex was s~nctioned. by the 1244. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA Governmen1 of India In 1980 With a cost Sl~HA: Will tbe Minister of COM- estimate of· Rs. 49.27 crores. Heavy MUNICATIONS be pleased to atate : BOliDoerina Corporation was appointed. as the turokey contractor for tbe project which whetber tbere bas been sharp rise in was scbeduled to be completed in 1984. The tbe Dumber of complaint. from the t.lepboDo 26$ Wrltt'" A",w" s kARtIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 2~ subscriben in Berhampore. Weat Benpl arrangements have also been made for durina tbe patt six month.; provision of STD facility to tbe 8ubscribon of Berhampore. (b) whether trunk telephone system between Berbampore·Calcutta mostly Setting up of New Power StatloD' 'n remains out of order as a result of whicb Andbra Pradesh subscribers of Berhampore do Dot aet any aervice of telepbane net-work throughout 1246. SURI ~1ANIK RBDDY: Will tbe country; the Minister of' ENERGY be pleased to state : (c) whether the long-aw'aited subscribers truok dialling facility is yet to be provided (a) whetber there is any proposal to set to tbe subscribers of Berhampore; and up new power stations during Seventh Plan period; (d) if so, tbe facts and details thereof and further action contemplated to be taken (b) if so, tbe details thereof, State-wise to improve the telephone service and to and year-wise; provide STD facility to the subscribers of Berbampore immediately ? (c) the power generation capacity of tbe power stations to be set in Andbra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and the places where these stat ions are MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS proposed to set up; and (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) No Sir. (d) the amount earmarked for the purpose? (b) No Sir; trunk teJepbone system between Berhampore and Calcutta bas not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been mostly out of order which can be seen DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB from tbe following figures of trunk caUs MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI booked/trunk calls, effective, during the SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (8) and (b). Power period May J 86 to Oct. 86. Stations envisaged to give benefits dUring tbe ... Seventh Plan period are indicated State-wise '----_ .. - ... ~. ~ _.. _.... ,. ------_ - .-~ .... --. .,.--_ in the statement laid on tbe Table of tbe Booked/Effective House. [Placed In Library. See No. '---_-- LT.. 3216/86]. The commissioniol programme May. 86 2860 1459 is, however, fixed from year to year. June. 86 2904 1560 .(c) A capacity addition of 838.5 MW is envisaged in Andhra Pradesb during tbo July, 86 3092 1355 Sev~ntb Plan period from the followina proJects: AUI. 86 248S ,1903 Scheme Sept. 86 277S 1499 Benefit io 7th Plan (MW) Oct., 86 2734 1122 1 2 (c) Yes Sir; Arrangements for provision BaHmela 60 of subscriber trunk dialling facility have been made alon&with automatisation of Nagarjunasagar 11 100 Berhamporc Central Battery Manual Bxcbanae. Srisailam II 330 (d) Automatilltion of Central Battery Peona Ahobilam 20 Manual tscbanao at BerbalJlpore bas already been plannod. Alonawith Bucomatisation, Nagarjunasagar LBC 60 261 ""ritten Answers Written Answefs 268 current year on the research efforts for 1 2 . harnessinl solar, sea-wave and bia-a" cocrlY; Pochampad 27 (b) the asencies which are involved in Nagarjunasagar RBC 30 the researcb with tbe financial assistance of the Government and the details of assistance Kakatiya Canal 1.5 to each alency aod the results achieved 80 far; Vijaywada Extn. 210 (c) the role of voluntary agencies which (d) The Power Sector outlay for are not receiving any government financial Andhra Pradesh for the Sevtnth Plan is Rs. assistance; and 1104.90 crores. (d) whether any major break-througb Financial Assistance to Agencies involved in tapping solar energy has been reported, in tbe Research of Harnessing Solar, if so, the details ~tbereof ? Sea-Wave aod Bio-Gas Energy THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 1247. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY VASA NT SATHE): (a) The total amount Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased spent during 1984·85, ]985-86 and tbe to state: current year (30 Sept., 86) on sponsoring research and development, demonstration (a) the total amount spent during the and connected activities on harnessing solar. financial years 1984.85, 1985·86 and the sea-wave and bio-gas energy is as under: (Rs. in crores) Programme Amount Spent 1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 (upto Sept., 86) .--~----' .. ---'--.... ------~------Solar 9.46 9.12 1.70 Sea-wave 0.16 0.14 0.01 Biolas 0.25 1.02 O.13A~ -"--'------ (b) A large number of research of Biogas technology. The notable institutions set up by the Government institutions arc Indian Instituto iocludioa autonomous bodies like Indian of Technology, Bombay; Regional Institutes of Technology, Universities. Research Laboratory, Jorhat; Indian Institute National Laboratories and those set up by of Science, Bangalore; Andhra Pradc3b the private sector like Tata Energy Research Agricultural University, Hyderabad; Tata Institute, Shri Ram Iostitute for Industrial Research. Development and Desiga Centre. Research, De1hi are engaged in energy Pune; Maharasbtra Association for related research and development activities. Cuhivatio~ of Science. Pune; Cotton The institutions which have been given grant Technological Research Laboratory, Bombay. for Rand D in 5ea .. wave energy are : Indian Among tbe prominent institutions entrusted Institute of Technology, Madras aod with Rand D activities in solar Energy are : Cl)cuUa Port Trust. About 40 institutio:J8 Nat.ional Physical Laboratory, New Delhi; arc involved in research 00 various aspects Indian Institute of TecbnololY, New Delb'i; 269 Written Anlwers KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Written Anlwers 270 Indian Institute of TcchnololY. Madras; tbese devices and systems has already come Indian Institute of Technology, Kbaragpur; up in tbe country. A Solar Thermal Andbra University, Waltair; Nimbkar Extension Programme bas already beoD Agricultural Research Institute, PhaJtan; initiated by the Government OD tbe basi, of Jadavpur University, Calcutta; Indian the Jow temperature technologies developed Institute of Science. Banga)ore; Tata Energy under the solar thermal research and Researcb Institute; Annamalai University. development programme. This Rand D Thus, tbe total number of private and programme was and is beina executed voluntary agencies, semi-Government and through various Universities, Research Governmental organisations, involved in tbe Institutes, Institutes of Tecbnology, National research and development activities Laboratories. The development of low sponsored by the Department of Non- grade solar thermal energy systems which ha. Conventional Energy Sources is very large come up from laboratory stage to large scale and almost all the important research extension programme stage is the resuJt 01 institutions in the country arc engaged in efforts made by these Rand D organisations. promoting research in the field of new and the individual achievement of whom may be renewable energy sources. difficult to elaborate. The Department i. provjding funds for the deveJopment of As a result of Rand D activities materials, prime movers. solar refrigeration sponsored by the Department, six new and airconditioning systems, heat storage models of biogas plants have been developed systems. studies on system engineering and and improvements have been effected in tbe solar thermal power. Through these existing ones. The feed-stock has been programmes, some achievement has already diversified to include material like human been attained in the medium temperature wastes, water hyacinth, vegetable wastes etc. solar thermal applications also such as Evacuated Collector system, Parabolic In the area of sea-waves, laboratory Collector system etc., Research and experiment on developing suitable system development efforts are also being continued for extracting wave energy bas been on solar photovoltaic power generation, ,. completed. These systems will be tested amorphus silicon aDd thin film soJar cells. under field condition. (c) The projects proposed or sponsored Rate of Industrial Growth In Kerala by voluntary and other agencies are funded 1248. SHRI K. MOHANDAS : Will tbe subject to their expertise and capability and Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to the need for such projects as evaluated by state : National Technical Advisory Committees set up for each sector and the Government is (a) the present rate of industrial arowtb not aware of tbe role played by the in KetaJa; voluntary agencies which are not receiving financial assistance from the Government in (b) the present rate of industrial Irowtb tbe area of New and Renewab1e Sources of in other State, state-wise; Energy. (c) whether Government have aoy (d) In order to develop the area of solar concrete plan to bring tbe ra·te of industrial thermal conversion and utilisation. multi. growtb in Kerala to tbe national averaae pronged resear~h and development activities during tbe Seventh Plan; and were taken up by Government. As a result, severa) solar thermal devices, systems and (d) jf so, the details tbereof 1 processes bave been developed. These include solar cookers. Solar Collectors, Solar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Water Heating Systems, Solar Wood DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Seasoning Kilns, Solar Desalination Systems, DEVELOPMENT IN THE MlNJSTRY OF Selective Coating processes etc. Technical INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- knowhow for many of these systems has CHALAM) : (a) and (b). The Central been passed on to the industry aDd Statistical Organisation (CSO) does not "op,jderable tpaDgfacnario, c~paclty for compiJ~ State-wise iDde~ of fn~ustrif' 271 Written Answ,rs W,'thl" Anlwrs 272 production. How~vcr. based OD Annual Sorvey of Industries for the latest available 1 2 y•• r 1982-83, a statement givins information about percentage growth rates in terms of 11. Maharashtra +12.0 Value of Output in different States and Union Territories is given below. 12. Manipur -43.S (c) and (d). An outlay of approximately 13. Meabalaya +63.3 Rs. 436.79 crores (exclusive of 'he outlay 14. provided for expansion programme of Orissa - 4.0 Hindustan Latex Ltd.) has been provided in tbe 7th Five-Year Plan for central 15. Punjab +11.1 Industrial undertakings in the public sector 16. Rajasthan located in Kera1a. This win be utilised for + 8.6 expansion of existing undertakings and 17. replacement, renewals, diversifications and Tamil Nadu +12.9 other facilities in existing central public 18. Tripura lector undertakings in Kerala. In addition, +33.6 a atate plan outlay about Rs. 208 crores for 19. Uttar Pradesb industrial and mineral sector including +28.8 village and small industries has also been 20. West Bengal provided during tbe 7th Five-Year Plan. + 9.3 21. ADdaman and Nicobar 9.S Statement Islands + P~rc~,.tQge growth rate In value 0/ output 22. Chandigarh during 1982.83 in State. and Union + 3.6 Territor/e, 23. Delhi +34.3 Name of the State/Union Percentage growth 24. Gna, Daman aDd Dju +65.2 Territory rate in value of 25. output (at current Pondjcberry + 3.7 prices) during - - --_ '--" ---_ .. ---- 1982-83 Total +17.1 "---~ -~ ~-'------._ -~ ,,-- 1 2 Commission on Productivity and EfBc.ency 1. Andbra Pradesh +36.0 In Industry 2. Assam - 5.5 1249. DR. V. VENKATESH: SHRI KAlI PRASAD PANDEY: 3. Bihar +-27.6 Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be 4. Gujarat +23.3 pleased to state : S. Haryana -~18,6 . (a) wbethCI Government are comtemp_ 6. Himachal Pradesh +41.3 latina a~y ste~s .for improving productivity aod effiCiency ID Industry and implementing 7. Jammu and Kashmir +47.4 the anti-poveny prosramme; 8. Karnataka +17.7 (b) whether any high Jeve) Commission is gOing to be set up OD productivity aDd 9. K.erala + 2.7 efficiency; and 10. t.{adbya ~ra~"b +18.9 (c) if 10, tho facts tbereof 7 • : I 27) Written Answers KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers 274 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DEPARTMENT OF IN DUS1RIAL DUTT): (a) and (b). West Ben,a) DEVBLOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Government had intimated that due to INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- floods and festivals in Sept.jOctober 1986, CHALAM) : (a) Yes. Sir. The Govern- there was heavy demand for kerosene in ment of India have taken variC'.us steps for Calcutta and other parts of the State and improving productivity and efficiency in requested for additional allocation to meet industry which will ultimately help in the situation This was considered aDd implementing the anti-poverty programme. additional ad hoc a1locations of 2500 tonoes for September and 11000 to ones for October (b) and (c). Government of India 1986 were made to West Bengal, apart from (Cabinet Secretariat) have constituted a tbe allocation already given at the enhanced 'Commislion on Economic Efficiency, growth rafe of I %, to meet tbe increased Productivity and Exports· under the Chair- demand. The allocation for winter block manship of Sbri L.K. Jha, M.P.. which comprising the months of November '86 to infer-alia, will suggest measures for February '87 has been made at the growth improving capacity utilisation, efficiency and rate of 7i%. productivity in industry both in the private and the public sectors. As retail distribution of kerosene to various sections/areas within the State is Posting of High Court Judges appointed made and controJ1ed by the State Govern .. from Bar ments the West Bengal Civil Supplies Deptt. allocated a total quantity of 13312 Kis for 1250. SHRI G .L. DOGRA: Will the Calcutta Puhlic Distrihution System for Oct. Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be '86 and the oil industry met the lame in pleased to state: full. In fact. the upJiftment was 104%. (a) whether any guidelines have been laid down by Government for tbe posting of Payment Dr Fee to GOTernm(lint Advocates judges apPOinted from the local Bar in the same High Court in which they were 1252. SARI MOOL CHAND DAGA: practising before their elevation to judgeship Will the Minil\ter of LA. W AND JUSTICE or to some other High Court; and he pleased to stn te : (b) if so, the details thereof? (a) the number of Advocates who have been paid hy Government a fee of more than rupees one lakh in a year during each THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the last three years for conducting cases MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE on behalf of the Government in the Supreme (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) No, Sir. Court of India and in the High Court. of Calcutta, Bomhay, Madras and Delhi; and (b) Does not arise. (b) the number of cases won by Govern- Shortage of Kerosene In Calcutta ment and the numher of cases lost, Reparately, in so far as cases referred to in 1251. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: part (a) above the concerned? Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (a) whether it is a fact that there is an (SARI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). acute shortage of kerosene oil in the public Information is being conccted and will be distribution system in Calcutta; and laid on the table of the Hou!o1e. (b) if so, tbe reasons thertfor and tbe Manufacture of Portable Rice Mills with steps proposed to be taken by Government Japanese Technologies . to overcome the shortage ? 1253. SHRI V. SQBHANADREE ... THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SWARA RAO : Will tbe Minister of l\i1l'1I$Tlt Y 91:7 Pf!TRO~EUM ~ND ~NDUST~Y be ~Ieastd to st~te ; 275 Written Answers NOVEMBER 11, 19&6 Written Answers 21' (a) whether there is any scheme for tbe Vacancies of Judie. In Supreme Court manufacture of portable rice mins with and Hlgb Court. Japanese tecbnologies; and 1256. SaRI K. RAMAMURTHY (b) if so. the details thereof? Will tbe Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DBPARTME~T OF INDUSTRIAL (a) tbe sanctioned strenltb of tbe DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Supreme Court aod HiSb Court Judles as INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- on 1 July, 1986 and the vacencies at CHALAM) : (a) and (b). No, Sir. However, present; two applicati4)ns, one from MIs. Oswal Agro M ills Ltd., New Delhi and another (b) the date of each of tbese vacancies; from MIs. Bindal Agro Chem. Ltd .• and Ludbiaoa t have been received for tbe import of Designs and Drawings from MIs AS-AF (c) tbe steps Government propose to Corporation Ltd., Japan for the manufacture take for filling up the vacancies in Supretrl, of Portable Rice Milling Machines. The Court and High Courts as soon as tbe first application from MIs. Oswal Agro vacancies occur ? Mills Ltd., has already been rejected. The second application is still under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB consideration. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). Common licensing policy In Karnataka As on 1-7-1986, the sanctioned strengtb of tbe Supreme Court was 26 Judges and of 1255. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI : tbe High Courts 431 Judges. As 00 Will the Minister of FOOD AND elYI L 1-11-1986 there were 11 vacancies in the SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Supreme Court and 70 vacancies in tbe High Courts. The dates fronl which these (a) whether Government of Karnataka are lying vacant are given in tbe stalemenl is com~idering a proposal to introduce a below. Common licensing po1icy under tbe provi. sions of the Essential Commodities Act, (c) The matter regarding tIliiog up of tbe 1955; and vacancies of Judges in the Supreme Court and the HiSh Courts is engaging the atten- (b) if so, the reaction of Government tion of tbe Government in consultation with thereon? concerned Constitutional authorities. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The Government have recently .teiterated MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL tbe instructions prescribing a time-schedule SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI whereio the Cbief Justices, tbe Chief AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. Ministers and the Governors of the States (b) The Government of India have bave to send their recommendations aDd already conveyed their concurrence to the requested tbem to adhere to it so that the proposal of tbe Karnataka Government to vacancies of Judgcs are filled in expedi. issue tbe Karnataka Essential Commod ities tiously. Common Licensing Order, 1986. KARtlKA 20, 1908 Statement I. Supreme Court As OD 1·11-1986 No of vacancies Date from which vacancies have arisen 11 9.. 3-1986 7-4-1986 15-6-1986 *the remaining 8 vacancies arose on IO~S-1986 when the sanctioned strength of the Supreme Court was raised from 18 to 26 judges. II. Higlt Court. S.No. Name of the Vacancies Date from High Court Permanent Additional wbich vacancies in coJ.3 and 4 have arisen 1 2 3 4 ---_ .. --_.,.,------, ------,------_... _----.--- "_"'_'-- ._-- 1. Allahabad 4 6 13.10,1984 15.10.1984 15.10.1914 15.10.1984 15.10.1984 7.02.1915 5.05.1986 23.05.1986 27.06. J986 18.08.1986 2. Andhra Pradesh 1 2 26.11.1982 29.11.1982 19.08.1985 3. Bombay 3 2 13.04.1986 6.05.1986 219 Wrlttell Answers NOVEMBER 11. 1986 Written Answers 280 __.....--- 1 2 3 4 5 6.05.1986 17.06.1986 1.07.1986 4. Calcutta 5 21.01.1986 1.02.1986 10.03.1986 1.09.1986 ),11.1986 5, Delbi 2 2 12.03.1985 29.10.1985 22.12.1985 20.01.1986 6. Oubati 7. (iujarat 2 3 7.06.1984 24.06.1984 2.04.1985 19.12.1985 22.07.1986 8. Jammu and Kashmir 9. Karoataka 4 24.10.1985 18.12.1985 13.08.1986 28.09.1986 10. Ketala 11. Himachal Pradesh 1 23.09.1986 12. ~adbya Pradesh 1 3 14.05.1986 14.05.1986 27.10.1986 1.09.1986 13. Madru 6 2'.01.1984 281 Written Answers KARtiKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Written A.nswers 282 1 2 3 4 S 1.06.1985 10.03.1986 10.08.1986 3.09.1986 23.10.1986 14. Orissa 2 1 1.03.1986 24.06.1986 26.06.1986 15. Patna 9 9.09.1984 28.11.1984 12.01.1985 1.05.1986 1.05.1986 25.06.1986 14.08.1986 10.09.1986 13.10.1986 16. Punjab and Haryaoa 9 29.11.1983 16.01.1984 26.03.1984 14.05.1984 1.01.1914 24.05.1985 12.03.1986 11.07.1986 16.07.1986 11. R.ajasthan 1 23.07.1986 18. Sikkim 1 21.01.1986 49 21 Grand Total: 70 283 Written Answers NOVEMBER. II, 1986 Written Answers 284 LocatioD of Tltaoium Dioxide Factory PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: The iD Tamil N.du Election Commission's annual report 1985 bas requested the Government ••• 1257. SHRJ N. DENNIS : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY bo pleased to MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of state: order. I don't agree. Not anowed. (a) whether the TIDeO. Tamil Nadu (Interruptlonl )•• has been issued letter of intent for starting MR. SPEAKER: You ask the Election a Titanium Dioxide Factory in Tamil Commission. Nadu; PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: We (b) if so, the details thereof; and have already submitted. (c) whether tbe industrial complex MR. SPEAKER : That is rJabt, not pertaining to Titanium will be located at allowed. the place of tho available of the raw material, namely, Kanyakumari district? (lnterruptiona)·· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MR. SPEA KER : Permission not DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND granted. PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTR Y OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI- (Inter rup tionJ )** CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). MIs. Tamil Nadu Industrial Development MR. SPEAKER : I cannot aU ow a Corporation Limited (TIDeO) bas been question which has to be dealt with by tbe issued a Letter of Intent for the manufac- Election Commission itself. Nothing ture of Titanium Dioxide (Rutile Grade) ror doing. a capacity of 25,000 tonnes per annum and (Interruption,)·· tbe project is proposed to be located by them in Distt. Tirunelveli in Tamil Nadu. MR. SPEAKER : Not aUowed. The estimated project cost according to the PermissiOD not granted at all. company is Rs. 28 crores. (Interrupt i on.J)·· MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. I have not given any permission to anybody. (English] (Interruption.)·· MR. SPEAKER: Sbri Arjun Singh. MR. SPEAKER ; Look here. the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE problem is. it is a mis-interpretation. The (Rajapur) : Sir, before that I want to Election Commission is an autonomous raise. body. He had to deal with it. Ho can write to tbe Governmont whatever help be needs. MR. SPBAKER : What is your point for of order? (Interruption.)·· PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: A MR. SPEAKER : I am firm in my very serious situation has arisen. On 23rd ruling. I t will Dot change. November there is a Parliamentary by- election in Banka. [Tranl/atio,,] MR. SPEAKBR : That should be SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI ..,[(Gbasi): referred to tbe Election Commission • Sir, I have a]so submitted a notice that •• Not recorded. 285 Papers Laid KAR. TIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Papers Laid 286 DMK President, Sbri Karunanidbi and bis in Gazette of India dated tbe 25th collealues talk about the burniog of October, 1986. Constitution because they are against Hindi. (3) The Radio, TeleYision Video Sir, I want to say. through you ... and Cassette Recorder Sets (Exemption for Requirements) MR. SPEAKER: You come to me and Licensing Amendment Rules. 1986 published tell me. in Notification No. G.S.R. 926 io (/nterruption.li) Gazette of India dated tbe 25th October, 1986. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ : It is fPlaced in Library. See No. LT. clearly a case of sedition. Stern action 3165/86) should be taken against them. The Government should make a statement in Notification amending Notification No. this regard and tbey should be prevented S.O. 98 (E) under Industries (Develop'went from doing so. ,and Regulation) Act MR. SPEAKER: You come to rne and THE MINIS1ER OF INDUSTRY tell me. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : I beg to lay on the TabJe a copy of Notification No. S.O. (Interruptions) 801 (E) (Hindi and English versions) publisbed in Gazette of India dated the [Engll,lI] 30th October, 1986 making certain amend- MR. SPEAKER : My ruling is the ment to Notification No. S.O. 98(E) dated same. No permission is granted on this the 16th February, 1973 so as 10 make subject. changes in the 'List of Articles Reserved for Small Scale Sector' under sub-section (lnterruptiona )... (2H) of ~ection 29B of the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951. [Placed in Library. See No. J.j T-3166/86.] 12.03 brs. Notifications under Government Savlogs PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Certificates Act THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Engli~h] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY): J beg to lay Notifications under Ilidian Telegraph on the Table: Act THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- (l) A copy of the Indira Vikas Patra Rules, 1986 (Hindi and English TIONS (SHRI ARJUN SINOH) : I beg to versions) publi~bed in notification lay on tbe Table a copy each of the No. G .S.R. 1183(E) in Gazette of following Notifications (Hindi and English India dated the 5th November versions) under sub-section (5) of section 1986, under ~ub-section (3) of 7 of tbe Indian Telegraph Act, 1885 : section 12 of the Government (1) The Indian Wireless Telegraph Savings Certificates Act, 1986. (Foreign Ships) Amendment Rules, 1986 published in Notification No. (2) A copy of Notification No. G.S.R. 1184(E) (Hindi and English O.S.R. 924 in Gazette of India dated tbe 25th October, 1986. versions) published in Gazette of India dated the 5th November (2) The Indian Wireless Telegraph 1986 spe'cifying that the provisioo; (Amendment) Rules, 1986 publish- of Government Savings Certificates ed in Notification No. G.S.R. 925 Act, 1959 shall apply to Indira --_._--'------.~-. '*l'lot ~ecordc4. 287 Papers Laid NOVBMBSR 11, 1986 Papers Laid 288 Vikas Patra. issued under the said Review on aod ADDual Report of Bengal Act. Immun'ty Limited. Caleutta for the fPlaeed la Library. See No. LT- period 1.10.1984 to 31.3.1985 3167/86) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF -CHEMICALS AND Notlftcatlon under M.R.T.P. Ad, Anoual PETRO-CHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Report of and Statement re Review OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAI· on National Institute of Small Industry CHANDRA SINGH): I beg to lay OD the Extent'on Training, Hyderabad, for Ta?le. a copy e~ch of following papers )985.. 86 and ADnual Report of (HJodl and English vers1ons) under sub .. Controller.General of Patents, section (1) of section 619A of the Compa- and Trade Marks DeslgDs for nies Act, 1956 : 1985.86 (1) Review by the Government on the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE working of the Bengal Immunity DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Limited, Calcutta, for the period DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF from 1st October, 1984 to 31st INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· March, 1985. CHALAM) : I beg to lay on tbe Table: (2) Annual Report of the Denial (l) A copy of the Notification No. Immunity Limited, Calcutta. for S.O. 669(E) (Hindi and EngJish the period from 1st October, 1984 versions) published in Gazette of to 31st March, 1985 along with India dated the 12th September, Audited Accounts and tbe 1986 making certain amendment to comments of the Comptroller and Notification No. 65(E) dated tbe Auditor General thereon. 21st February, 1986 under sub .. section (3) of section 22A of the fPlaced in Library. See No. l.lT- 317J /86] Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Act, 1969. Statements showing action taken by {Placed In Library. See No. t.T_ Government on various assurances ' 3168/86) promises. etc. given by Ministers (2) (i) A copy of tbe Annual Report THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (H indi and English versions) MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY of the National Institute of AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA Small Industry Extention DIKSHIT): I beg to lay on tbe Table the Training, the Hyderabad, for following statements (Hindi and English year 1985-86 along with versions) showing the action taken by tbe Audited Accounts. Government on various assurances, pro- (ii) A statement (Hindi and mises and undertakings given by the Englisb versions) reaard iog Ministers during the various sessions of Lok Review by the Government Sabha: on the working of the Nation .. al Institute of Small Industry (l) Statement No. XX· Extension Training, Hydera- Eleventh Session 1983 the year 1985-86. [Placed In Library. See bad, for No. LT.. 3172/86] [Placed in Library. Ser. No. LT-316~/86.] (2) Statement No. XVII- (3) A copy of the Annual Report Fourteenth Session, Seventh (Hindi and English versions) of tbe 1984 Lok [Placed In Library. See Controller General of Patents, No. LT.. 3173/86) Sabba Designs and Trade Marks for tbe year 1985-86 under section 126 of (3) Statement No. XIII- tbe Trade and Merchandise Marks Fifteenth Session. Act. 1958. 1984 [Placed 10 Llbrar,. See No. LT- rPlaced In Library. See ~o. LT·3174/86) ~170J8(;·l , ' 219 P.A.C. KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) P.A.C. 290 (4) Statement No. XI- MR. SPEAKER Notbing doing. My Second Session, 1985 ruling is tbe same. [Placeel In Library. See No. LT-~17S/86] (Intp.rrupt!ons)·· (5) Statement No. VIII .. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Third Session, 1985 [Placed in Library. See (Interruptions)·· No. LT-3176/86] (6) Statement No. VII- tAR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. No Fourth Session, Eighth permission. 1985 Lok rPlaced In I.ibrary. See Sabba (Interruptions)·· No. LT.3177/86] (7) Statement No. IV .. MR. SPEAKER : Go to the Election Fifth Session, 1986 Commission. Now matter under Ru1e 377. [Placed in Library. see! Sbri Niba1 Singh Jain. No. LT.3178/86) (Tnterr lIprlon,f) (8) Statement No. I-Sixth Session, 1986 MR. SPEAKER : No. I am not rPlaced In Library. See No. LT.3179/86] convinced. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE As SUPPLEMENTAR Y DEMANDS FOR a prote!';t we are stagin~ a wa1k .. out. GRANTS (GENERAL), 1986-87 (Prof. Madhu nanduvat~ and some other [E"glish] bon. ~"embcrs tht'n left fhe House) THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE, (SHRI r Tr(]n,~latfo1l1 JANARDHANA POOJARY) : Sir, On behalf of Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh, I SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI beg to present a statement (Hindi and KHAN ~ Mr. Sreaker, Sir, you see the English versions) showing the Supplementary present conrlition of our country, in which Demands for Grants in re~;pect of the direction it is going nnd they are celehratioa BudlJet (General) for 1986·87. 'Ut~av' ... ( lfltpl'rllptiolls) rEn~lishl PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE MR. SPEAKER : Not a1lowed. Tbe hone gentleman has not got mv permission. [ rran"fatloll] Flfty.Elghth Report SHRI E. AYY APU REDDY (Kurnool) : Mr. Umakaot Mishra. you ~peak. I beg to present the Fifth-eighth Report (Hindi and English version~) of tbe Public [English) Accounts Committee on Action Taken by Government on the recommenda tions 'MR. SPEAKER: Do not disturb tbe contained in their 206th Report (Seventh House. The bon. Member has the floor. Lok Sabba) relating to 'Incorrect deduction (Interruptions) in respect of inter-corporate dividends'. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Panika. do not (Interruptions) talk. with bim. '*Not recofded~ 291 Matters Under Rule 377 NOVEMBER lt, 1986 Matters Under Rule 377 292 [T,a""latlon] Bateshwar. the birth place or tb. ~2nd Tirtbankar of Jain relilion It is atl right. you have your own wishes Shouripur, birth place of Sbri Naimi- aDd tbey have tbeir own. You bad your natbji and birth pJace of Surdasji and say. the famous KaiJasb Temple are important places from religious and cu)tur.1 point of [English) view. Agra is also the birth pJac::e of great patriot late Pt. Motila) famous Do not shout and do not disturb. Not Nebru. Nazir. allowed. If you do not sit withdraw from posts )ike Ghalib and An those places being neglected tbe Centre aad the House. Do flot shout and do not are by disturb. If you do not sit down withdraw the State Governments. · from the House. Nothing doing. I have 1 would 1ike to draw tbe attention of lot no power. the Central Government towards it and (I'Jterrllpl j ons) submit the fonowing points :- (l) The birth places of Late Pt. MotUal [Translation) Nehru, Ghalib and Nazir should MR. SPEAKER : You express your be developed as national memorials. own views and they will express their own. (2) Immediate arrangements should be made for the protection and beauti- fication of historical monuments. 12.05 bra. (3) Schemes sbould be prepared for tbe development of religious places MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 and executed immediately. As industries are not being set up in [Translation] Agra to save Taj Mahal from industrial (I) Demand for mea~ures to protect pollution, it is essential to develop Alra as the historical places of archa- a place of tourist importance on priority eological value and develop tbe birth basis. places of late Pt. MotHal Nehru, (II) Demand for steps to eradicate poverty Ghalib aod Nazir in Agra as national In the rural areas of the country memorials. SHRI UMA KANT MISHRA SHRI NIl-lAL SINGH JAIN (Agra): (Mirzapur): Mr. Speaker, Sir. tbe Prime Mr. Speaker, Sir, Agra is an important Minister has accorded top-most priority historical and religious tourist centre in to the anti-poverty programme in tho Twenty Point Programme. Tbe number of India. poor is more in the rural areas. About 75 per cent people in the vi Haaes are liviog Besides the world renowned Taj Mabul, below the poverty line. As a result, re- there are otber hi~torical places such as sentment is increasing amona the poor in Aira Fort, Tomb of Etmad-ud· daula, the rural areas. Steps should, therefore. Sikandara. Fatehpur Sikri, etc., which be taken on war footing to eradicate poverty should be renovated from tourism point of in the rural areas. I give the followiOI view and preserved and protected from suuestions in this reaard : archaeological point of view. But it is a matter of regret that this historical and (1) Plots and houses should be pro- cultural heritage is being totally neglected. vided on priority basis and tbe The loose stones on tbe OUfer wall of Agra viUage panchaya t land and land Fort and cracks in the walJs due to growth declared surplus on account of of plants and the deteriorating condition of ceiling should be distributed tbe entrance to Tomb of Etmad-ud-daula amoDg the landless people for is an ample evidence of tbe negligence in cultivation and possession thereof preservio, th~se 1ll0D .. Jt~eots~ ~hould be ,iven t9 them. ~93 Matters Under :Rule J77 KAltTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Matters UI,dcr Rule 377 294 (2) Maximum assistance Ihould be tbrouahout the country. On tbis baeil, liven to small farmers to increase the students belonging to tbe above referred production. lrrigatioD, fertilizer. communities have been letting scholarships improved seeds, modem techniques for pursuing post-mat ric studies. Keepio. of cultivation, pesticides, etc. in view the present circumstances. It i, should be made available to them neccs,ary to increase the amount of scholar- at cheap rates. Interest free 10ao. ship because tbe books have become very sbould be given and they should costly. I t is, therefore, necessary to en- be given reasonablo prices of their hance the present rates of scholarship for agricultural produce. the students pursuing post"matric studies. Besides, it is also neceSj;ary to provide (3) The Integrated Rural Develop- scholarship to all the students studying to ment Programme should be im- the under-matric classes. plemented on a wider scale and its implementation should be properly During the current year, the scholarship monitored so that the actual bene- of those scheduled caste and scheduled ficiaries get the benefits. . tribe students in Uttar Pradesh has beeD stopped who are pursuing hiaher studies (4) More and more medium scale after tbe completion of their vocational industries, village and cottage education and full fce is being charsed industries should be set up in tbe from them. It has caul>ed great resentment rural areas. The traditional among tbe above-mentioned communities. village and cottage industries Should The students who want to pursue bigber be modernised and encouraged. education would thus be deprived of tbis benefit. Therefore, I make a strong appeal (5) Priority should be given for the to the Central Governmeat to restore tbe development and industrialisation scholarship facility to all tbose students of the backward areas, bac.;kward belonging to the aforesaid communities who districts, backward sub-divisions, are studying in post-matrie elalses. The backward development-blocks and rates of the SCholarship should also viJ1ages. be enbanced so tbat tbey may acquire higher education and educational develop· (6) Under the National Rural Employ .. ment of tbe people of the aforesaid com· ment Scheme, Rural Landless munities may take place more speedily. Employment Guarantee Scheme and some other similar schemes, 12.10 brs. priority should be given to drink- ing water, school buildings, link [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chairj roads, electrification, health faci- lities, etc •• in the rural areas. [English] (7) Maximum assistance should be 0.. ) Steps to protect sick industries in given to the people in the rural Bihar areas during natural calamities. SHRI C. P. THAKUR (Patoa): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. Bihar at present bas (III) Demand for continuing scholarship to the lowest per capita income. Therefore, SC/ST students studying in hlgber it can be considered a poor State on all ells.e. and raldog the rate thereof counts. In this backarouod, most or the large scale and small scale industries are SURI R. P. SUMAN (Akbarpur): Mr. lying sick. Speaker, Sir, under Rule 377 I would like to raise the followiog matter : Rohtas industry is lying sick since lonl and causing starvation of so many persons. Under tbe Constitution, the State must Pbulwari Cotton Mills is also lying sick and make arrangement for free education and there are many more sick induBtries. Is tbe acbol.arsbip to tbe students beloDsioS to the Government Planning to rescue tbese sick IcboduJed castel aDd the scbeduJed tribes industries ? 295 Matters Under Rule 377 NOVEMBER i " 1986 Matters Under Rule 377 2~ (v) Demand for preserving tbe ecological special cooperation and assistance of balance in the We.tern Ghats the Central Government. The water courses have been brick.lined. Besides tbe SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD estimated expenditure, the administrative (Baroda) : Sir. the Western Ghats cover an expenditure, interest and compound interest area of approximately 51585 sq. miles work out to be 5 to 6 times the all0· spreadina; over five States geographicaJly original cation. The land for construction of situated along the w¢stern peninsular side the small drains has been . acquired from the of tbe country, acting as a buffer for rain- farmers. These drains have increased tbe full in tbe area which is about 520 ems. Due irrigation capacity because of whicb the to this. the rain forests with rich fio[a and State Government will get more revenue. fauna are very few. Why should the State Government then Due to indiscriminate encroachment and charge more from tbe farmers? The State ill-conceived industrial growth this forest and Government should itself bear the whole its inhabitants are fast facing extinction. exp:nditure. Dr. P. W. Richards, a Btitish botanist has There have beeD several other bunglings said tbat if proper care to safeguard these in the construction of brick .. 1ined drains for rain forests is not taken, they will all perish which the farmers are beina made to pay. in another 30·40 years. Tho banks are issuing attachment notices to the farmers. There is great Hydroelectric projects, agricultural and unrest among the farmers because industrial activities and rnining work have they are being made to pay for the all been responsible for destruction of the bunglings of the Department. I had also forests, hydroelectric projects being the apprised the House of the facts in this bjage§t culprit of them all. Unlike those regard during the last session. The neigh- feeder rivers end streams which get their bouring States of Punjab and Haryana have Hima~ water from the melting snows of the waived the loans of their farmers granted layas, the rivers and streams from tbe for brick lined water courses. The Rajasthan Western Ghats depend on the rain water Government should also be asked to waive which is again dependent on the rain the loans. I would request the Central forests. With the destruction of these Government to issue immediate instructions forests rainfall is dropping rapidly and to th e Rajasthan Government to stop the soil erosion has started causing silting. realisation immediately. so as to provide This in turn has affected the ~fficiency of relief to tbe farmers. Necessary orders tbe hydroelectrical projects. The Kali should be issued to the Rajasthan Govern- hydroelectric project is an excellent example ment to take appropriate action to solve inefficiency due silting. Tbe Sharavathi of to the problems of the farmers. project is another eX:.lmpJe where even witn enough rain due to ecological balances the (English] project is ruoning at loss. I hope, the Government takes a serious view of the (vii) Demand for measures for rapid matter. Industrialisation of Kerala SHRI K. MOHANDAS (Mukunda- [ Trans/ationl puram): Kerala is a state where Central investment is below tbe national averap. (yl) Need to direct tbe Rajasthan Govern- This bas held back the development of tbo ment to stop recovery of does from state and pushed up uDomployment. the Indira Gandhi Canal Project Area Kerala is one of tbe very few States which earn a lot of foreign exchange for the SHRJ BIRBAL (Ganganagar): Mr. country. A major sbare of foreign Speaker, Sir. I would like to raise a remittances comes from tbo workers of question of urgent public importance in the Kerala who arc contributing to the pros- House. perity of the country by their hard work in the Gulf CouDtries. Yet the state has The construction of Indira Gandhi not got ita due share of central investmenc aDal Project is being undertaken with the in tbe iDdustrials sector. 291 Matters Under Rule 377 KAkTIKA 20, .• 908 (SAKA) Matters Under Rule 377 i~8 Maoy proposals for new industries And tbis is my submission to the House were submitted to the Centre from time to and Centre that a very hlah powerod time. But so rar nothing bas been done. Committee should be constituted consisting of prominent people of the film industry, Therefore, I would request the Govern- tbe government, economist. aod people ment to prepare a plan for the rapid from Culture, to conduct a deep study of industrialisation of Kerala and make the film industry 9s economic adequate financial provision in the next crisis and to advise the lovernments year's budget. at the Centre and the States to reduce taxes and also to curb effecti- (viii) D~Dland for a high· powered Commit- vely video piracy so that the Indian film tee to 8tudy the economic crisis In industry survjves. the fUm industry and to advh:e for reduction of taxes and curbing of (iX) Demand for measures to impro,e the video piracy conditions prevailing In Ranchl SHRI SUNIL DUTT (Bombay North Mental Asylum West): Indian Film Industry, the word's largest producer of motion pictures, is SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI fiahting a losing battle for its survival KHAN (Etah): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, today. This crisis has been brought about tbe inhuman couditions prevailing in tbe by a number of factors, most notably, Rallchi Mental Asylum present a very the high incidence of taxation, both at the painful picture of the plight of the mentally Centre and in the States. The onslaught ill inmates. Every third day a patient of TV and rempaot video piracy have caused dies because of starvation. Governments irrepairabl>! damage to Cinema. Uncertified, of six States v;z., Bihar, West Bengal, objectionable and undesirable films through Orissa. Tripura. Maoipur and Mizoram, video continue to be exhibited clandestinely each having a share of beds in the hospital all over the country undermining the cul- are supposed to contribute proportionately tural and social framework. towards the expenses. It is most unfor- tunate that these six States cannot even The 31 day strike of the film industry orovide food to the dying patients. From in Maharashtra-with 1200 cinema houses 1970 to 1980 an average of 82 patients closed down, dozens of studies and died of malnutrition. Between ]981 and laboratories shut out, three lakh daily 1985 there have been J88 deaths each year wage earners out of WOI k-stands as a and during the first half of this year tbere test case before us to prove how badly the were 74 deaths. Whereas the living film industry is affected with unimagi- allowance of tbe staff has increased mani- native taxes on Central and State levels. fold. the patients Inaintenaoce cost remains The strike is now called ofT, but how unchanged. With an annual budget of serious is the Maharashtra government in Rs. I crore, Rs. 70 lakh is spent on their attitude to rescue the film industry is establishment leaving only 30 per cent still to be seen. The entire film industry of for the patients' medicines, food, clothing India is looking forward to tbe outcome and maintenance of tbe asylum. The of the Mabarasbtra Government's delibe- asylum faces aeeute crisis of driokina rations. I have a fear. that if no proper- water; toilets are choked and brokeo, fans solution is found by 15th of December, are not working; fused bulbs and tubes film industry will be forced to close down are not replaced and there are rusted aod again, not only in Maharasbtra, but in all broken iron cots which were provided in other States, rendering 25 lakb people 1925. IronicalJy, the patients are examined jobless and causing a considerable den t by a former patient of tbe asylum. There in th~ government revenue and sounding the is ram pant corruption amoog the staff in death knell for Indian film industry. This admitting patients. is a forewarnina to the House and the Government. Therefore. it is imperative The patients who require more bumane tbat tbe manifold crisis of the film industry treatment to bring them to sanhy are needs to be discussed at length in the starving to death. I would. through tllI~ House. august House, urge upon the Government , ' 2t9 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. NOVEMBER 11. i 986 Citizenship (.,4mdt.) Bill, 300 1986 1986 to take immediate suitable measures to im- SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: That prove tbeir lot and to reduce tbeir is all riaht. lufferiDlI. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Mr. Mobanty, are you moving? 12.20 br•• SHRI BRAJAl\10HAN MOHANTY: CITJZENSHIP (AMENDMENT) BILL, I shall only try to cODvine tbe bon. 1986-Contd. Minister. , (English] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKBR: You first say, whether you are moving or not and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, we then you can convince him. will take up Item No. )0. Clause by Clause consideration of the Bill, further to amend SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY the Citizenship Act, 1955. Clause 2, Shri That is aU right. Mool Cband Oaga. Are you moving. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: First you SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : teU, are you moving the Amendment ? No. I wanted .•• SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You are No. Sir. not moving. Then. you leave it. Now, the question is : MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Then, you leave it. Now, Shri Daga. "That Clause 2 stand part of the Bill." SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Now, The Motion W.. I adoptfd. the one amendment, whicb I have moved. Clause 2 was added to tbe Bill. whereio, it is said that Ueither of whose parents" • I ask, "either of whose parents ? Why not both? Jf, both the parents are citizens of India, then be should be treated SHRt MOOL CHAND DAGA: I as citizen of India. wanted to speak, but I was not allowed to speak. Then, I a~k for the insertion of one MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I asked phrase "whose parents" ? If either of tbem you, you didn't move. goes, then what will happen? So, I said, tbis is a harmless amendment and is very Clause 3 necessary. Please accept tbis Amendment. (Amendment or lection 5) Then. in the other Amendment, I have asked for the addition of the word "or" at MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Dasa, the end of page 1, line 13. That should be are you moving your Amendment ? accepted. I say. there is no harm in SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: I beg it. to move: THE MINISTER OF STATE Page 2. line 2,- IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSON .. NEL, PUBLIC OR-lEV ANCES for "five" substitute "tbree" (3) AND PENSIONS AND MINISTER OF MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Now, Mr. STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME Mohanty. AFFAIRS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM): Sir, I am not quite clear about. what the SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY hon. Member Sbri Daga has in his mind. (Puri): Sir, be is trying to convince the I think, be is referrio8 to Clause 2 of the Minister, otherwise, he will withdraw. Bm. '01 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) Citizenship (Amdt.) 302 1986 Bill. 1916 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. We now. What is the sense in puttios it .1 are dlscus~inl Clause 3 of the BiU. Clause fivo years now? Generally people who 2 is already over. It bas been adopted. come to India aod settle in India get tbe right of voting in Jocal bodies' elections SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: He is after a period of three years. In local talkini about Clause 2~ Sir. Please ask bim bodies' elections we generaUy find to speak about Clause 3. He is talkins that those citizens participate about Clause 2. who are residing in India. You are saying tbat they can do so after five years MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I bad of stay. That is too much. Therefore, .sked Dagsji, are you moving the Amend- I have reduced it, saying that it should be ment for Clause 2.. He said "no". After a period of three years. That is my that, if you are speaking about Clause 2, suagestion. tben what is the use. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER. : Mr. SHR} MOOL CHAND DAGA : Since, Minister-now you can speak only on you asked me to move, I moved. Clause 3. MR. DEPUTY SPEA.KER: No. no. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Now. io You said. no. Clause 3 we are amending Section S (I) (a) of tbe parent Act. In Section 5 (1) (a) SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: You there, the residential qualification fixed Is are running very fast. I know that. six months~ and it is being increased to five years. Mr. Oaga suggeats that we (Interruptions) increase it from six months to only three years. On tbe contrary, Mr. Brajamoban SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOUANTY: Mohanty suggests ... You should allow us to mak.e our points. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He did MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. I not move. asked, whether you are moving? You SHRI P. CH1DAMBARAM: I didn't reply. When first I ask you whether am only pointing out the contrast. Mr. you are moving, you should say 'yes' or Mohanty that we should increase it 'No·. Then only you can speak. Without says from five years to seven years. It is a that, you are movina. How can you speak matter of policy. It is a matter of judle- 00 that amendment? ment. Government thinks tbat five years is a SHRI MOOL CHAND DAG/\: You rea~onable qualification before a person are going too fa st, Sir. can be said to have accepted tbe responsi- hilit ies of citizenship. 1 am sorry I cannot MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We have accept this amendment. to go fast, Mr. Usga Ji. We cannot go MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Mr. Oala, very slow. Mr. Daga. what about clause 3 1 are you withdrawing year amendment. You have already moved your amendment to it. Are you speaking on tbat amend- SHRl MOOL CHAND DAOA: I am ment? Dot pressing. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Doc. Yes. Mr. Daga have the leave of tbe House to withdraw his amendment ? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can HON. MEMBBRS: now speak on Clause 3. SEVERAL Yes. SHRI MOOL CH4aND DAOA: What Amendment No 3 wal. by lea,e, was the object of the Bill? It was that withdrawn. aoybody can become a citizen of India after a period of six months" stay. I ask MR. DEPUTY S"~A~E~: N9w H~c; ,by you ~~v~ 6~ed It llerioQ ()f Ive ),e,rs questio~ i, ; 303 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill, 304 1986 1986 (Mr. Deputy Speaker) to the grandson, aDd f bus it will be perpe- tuated, and will be a never-endina process. "Tbat Clauses 3 and 4 stand part of tbe Bill" Government have not yet given us any The Motion was adopted. facts on the basis of which one could come to a judgement. We have only guesses. I bad Clause. 3 and 4 were added to tbe Bill. asked Government yesterday: why don't you have a census in Assam to determine MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The ques- how many people have infiltrated or immi- tion is : grated or come into. or intruded into Assam or into Indian during the last 10 or 15 "That Clause I, Enacting Formula years? Government is silent on that. and tbe Title stand part of the Bill." Government has no idea about tbe Dumber of people who have come; and Government The Motion was adopted. is tarring everybody with the same brush. Clause 1~ Enacting Formula and the Title were added to tbe Bill. I would like to point out that we face a tremendously difficult situation with regard MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now the to Sri Lanka. It occurs to me that when we enacted this Act in 1955, we had in our Minister ..• mind the persons of Indian origin who were SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I beg born on tbe soil of Sri Lanka coming into to move: India and being granted not only asylum but a guarantee about citizenship not only for "That the Bill be passed." themselves but for their progeny also who were born on the soil of India. Assuming MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Does any this proposed law was then in force, all hon. Member want to speak now ? All thnse 15 lakh people, who have acquired right. "Indian citizenship coming from Sri l"anka since 1954 would not have been able to have Motion moved: that status or privilege. That is why I am saying that this is 8 misconceived notion of "fbat the Bill be pasl)ed." protecting the integrity of rndia. You must protect the integrity of In<1ia of definding it Mr. Shahabuddin. again~t infiltration. SHRI SYED SHAHABUOOIN SHRl P. KOLANDAIVELU (Kishanganj): Sir: At this stage I again (GobichettipaJayam): No, it is not from wish to appeal to Government not to force 1954; it is from 1964. this measure, which shall create many. many complications-administrative and political SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : But -in the years to come. this was a ppHed also with retrospective efft~ct. People had been coming into India, As I said yesterday, if we had a system but the Agreemt'nt came later; and then it of registering every birth, if we had a regularised the status of tbose who bad system of identifying and keeping a tag no already come in; and it was also agreed to every citizen and of knowing the national regularise the status of all those who were status of every person who is residing in to come in. Therefor, we are faced with a India, tben surely this could have been a situation where you are banging the doors practicable proposition. As it is, it is not. and by enacting this legis1ation you are Wo have lakbs of people today whose really diverting the attention from the "citizenship and status are indeterminate. primary task of safe@uarding the border of And by virtue of this enactment, this the country and you are also putting into state of Statelessness will not be limited to the mind of tbe country a sense of shame. tbem, but will be carried on (rom genera- because today we are disowniDI those about tion to eenera.tion, fro'll fathel" to sop and whom we ba ve always fett responsible? 305 Citlz~'J&hip (Amdt.) Bill. KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill, 306 19B.~ . 1986 Parsis came into Iodia a thousand years SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE .80. S'uppose this law was in force tben (BoJpur) : That would have amounted to wiiere would all the Parsis be 1 Tbeir fatbers deprivation I wore not born in India; their fathers were born in Iran or somewhere. Our country SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It would hal bad a tradition to which Shri Pant have led fO all sorts of things. Now, as far referred when he introduced tbe citiz"nsbip as this provision is concerned, my party Bill in tbe Lok Sabha and in tbe Rajya does not oppose it. S.bba. That ia why 1 sUSlest that govern- ment should work out necessary logistic Wby? Because we have in mind that arraDaement, work out a foolproof system due to unnatural division of the country about safeauardiDI the' border, about which took place aJi these problems ha ve determiniol tbe citizenship of every person arisen. The Statement of Objects and residiD, in Ind ia whether be is a foreianer ReasoDs bas referred to large Dumbers of or be is a citizen and have a perfect system people coming in from Sri Lanka, and of reaisterin, eveay birtb. Then you come Bangladesh and from some African countries. with tbis Bill and I shaH support it. But. It does not mention Nepal; it does Dot today. it is vicious; itA also against national mention Pakistan. I do not know wby. 1 ioterest and administratively impo~sible. meaD, in that case the same standards should SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirbat): be applied to people who can cross tbe This amending Bill seeks to change border easily both from Nepal as well as substantially, I should say basically tbe from Pakistan; and people do come. But practice which bas been in force for the last here they have mentioned specifically only 36 years continuously. Therefore. it is an two countries and referred to some African important piece of legislation. For the countries. I do not know what are those moment, I won't go into the question f.S to African countries and from where people whether it will pass the constitutional test have been coming clandestinely. Of course. of Article 14, that is the headach of the there are large number of Africans in this government; they must have been assured country as students and so on, we know by their legal advisors that it is a sound that. I do not know to whom he lefers as legislation. But as far as, not being a Africans coming here clandestinely. Perhaps. lawyer, I can say that there have been some he might shed some light on this when he instances in the not so distant past when this replies. Anyway, as far as those people are leJislative practice of arhitrarify fixing a concerned, who. due to the partition of the particular date which ha~ no principle or no country later had to come back to this policy behind it to justify the select ion of country as refugees. hona .til(e refugees, that date: and on the basis of that date people who were compelled either by dividing the citizens ~f the country into two political persecution or by some economic categories and discriminating between them, deprivation, their property being taken away. bas been struck down by the Supreme Court or something lIke that. compelled to come 00 the ground of it being violative of Article back to India from wherever they had gone 14; and all the people who were born before after partition. I hope that the Government a particular date that is the date on which is not contemplating to go bHCk on the tbis Bill will come into force will continue commitment which was already made in the to have benefit to the extent that those who tradition of this country in the past. from were born in this country would become Pandit Nehru's time, and of course that is citizens of India by birth; whether anybody not a legislation, it is only a commiCment; born in tbis country subsequent to the date a commitment was made, that such bona fide of lealslation comir,g into force wiJI be a refugeeq who seek asylum or ~helter in India, citizen by birth only if one of his parent is will be ~iven shelter here. They will not be already an Indian citizen. I do not know thrown out or chucked out. We wish this wbether 'ihis will really hold water. Of Bill inc1uded that it is directed at people course. I agree with the Minister that if this who are not coming in here a~ refugees but had been given retrospective dfect. there to otbers coming for any other purpo!le. 1 would b'ave been chaos and it would have hope this is the position of the Government been really 1¢4 to a very undesirable state still. and the Government shou1d make it 9f aWairs, ". clear. If tbey want this ]egislatio~ to Jlav~ .. .' .. 307 Citizenship (Arndt.) Bill, NOVEMBER 11: 1986 Citizenship (Arndt.) Bill, 308 1986 1986 ISbri IDdrajit Gupta] years. During tbe period his applkatioD for registration is pendiog, be is a Itateleu tbe support of tbe country, it should be person. He is not an Indian citizoo. accompanied by a reiteration of tbat assurance and that commitment. Tbe Govtrnment may say that there is no SHRf BHOLA NATH SEN (Calcutta problem of refugees in future. How do we South) : He is an Indian national. know? We do not know. Of course big problems had come up at various times SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Wbat i. aD during the last 36 years. Tbese people have lodian national? This is a new cateaory come. Thoy are here, they arc absorbed which is beiDa introduced by some MembeR. in tbe country. Nobody can chuck them He is Dot an Indian cjtizen aDd, tbererore" out or do anything about it. But we do be is applying for registratioD. For 36 year. not know, we cannot say, what will happen what was the difficulty you bad when tbe in future. in Bangladesh or in Sri Lanka or provision was tbat be or sbe must ordinarilr in Pakistan. wbich may compel people. be a resident for six months before be or innocent peo(\le. to leave those countries and sbe could apply for reaistration? What was seek shelter. In such a case, at least we the great difficulty or cruis tbat you faced Ibould bear in mind the commitments which because of th.is tbat from six mootbs you were given in the past and we stand by have to increase it immediately to five tbem. years ? I think. these are unnecessary bard- ships being put on people who want to The population problem is a different register themselves as Indian citizens. They question. That should (lot be mixed up will have to fulfil all tbe other quatificatiool, witb tbis. Even if you prevent everybody whatever they are. This is simply for from outside coming bere your population applying for registration. Why should it will continue to increase by leaps and be made five years instead of six months? bounds unle8S some other measures are I do not understand tbis. I think. this is taken. That is a differtnt question. unoecessarily severe in the name of stringency. This iJ Dot going to preveDt So, as far as tbis provision is being people coming from outside if tbey are made, now to get citizenship by bittb, one under compulsion to come. If the idea Is of the parents should be an Indian citizen. to prevent the entry into India, you do Dot aU right. I support this. hecause I think that want unauthorised enlry. you do not want tbere is nothing wrong in that, that practice clandestioe entry, we also do not want it. is there in many countries of the world. We do not want huge number of people ,to Ant! at the moment, in the prevailing remain in this country, whose citizenship situation it is not going to create any very status is undetermined. It is in our interest serious complication. that their citizenship status should be deter- mined as soon as possib!e. If tbey ar" But the other provisions of the Bill, which eligible for registration, they should be in tbe name of stringency have very regic;tered within a reasonable time. If tbey drastically increased the periods required for are not eligible for registration, well, tbey them originally to apply for registration, cannot be citizens. Then tbe Government somebody who is not a citizen hall come .to win have to deal with them in a different thi~ country and applies for registration for way. But by making tbis eligibility period Indian citizensbip, it was six months and it as five years instead of six months, I think. is now becoming five years. I can under- this is not at all convincing as to why this atand instead of six months if it is maJe is being done. Simply to say tba t we bave one year or two years or even three years. to be strin,ent, it does not make .any sense. But what is the re~JSon of switching over This is talkiug like Margaret Tbatcher. You from six montbg to five years? AIi~umin8 should not take a pago out of ber book. 10 there is a perC40n who understandably wants the beginning, I know. in Eogland there was to register all a citizen of thi~ country. he· a provision that anybody who was born In win not be allowed even to appty for t.~e UK was eligible to be tbe UK cltizeo rOli'tration until he has been residing here by birth. I know that some people of tbis ror five years and this is not clear a~ to country who were born in the ,UK a~ wb~t will be ~i~ st~t~~s ~\lriD' 1~o8e 6.ve Wbos~ l?oth parent, w~ro '~d"nls, ~ 309 Cltizensbip (Amdt.) Bill. KARtlKA ~Ot 1908 (SAKA) Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. 310 ,lgaS 1986 UK citizens. I do not know whether tbe bon. Minister. Article J1 of tbe Marasret Thatcber still retains tbat provision Constitution gives power ... (Interruptlo",) or Dot. That was the position here a]so. Possibly we borrowed it Irom tbe UK SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Does because we borrowed many thing from the the Government agree that the Nepalese UK. And for 36 years this weot 00 like people are committing mischief in tbls thll. Now to introduce this provision tbat country? at least one parent should be Indian citizen, in my opinion, is all rigbt; tbere is nothing SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: I wronl in tbat. But tbese provisions which will answer to that. The Government duriDI are iotroduced bere, tbe qualificatioa period the Question Hour has admitted what is lor registration, tbe qualification period for being done by some organisations in Jammu seeking naturalization, tbe periods have been and Kashmir and that they are actively increased from 7 years to 12 years and from working for merger of Kashmir •..•...•• 4 years to 9 years. What is the greater (Interruptions) socurity or greater stability of the population that you are goina to get as a result of this? SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : I am I do not agree witb these at all. The first hIking about NepaJesl clause r am willing to support, because, I think, it is necessary now provided it is SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: accompanied again by the Government So, Sir, both the things should not continue. policy assurance tbat in future if cases occur My subtnissioD is let the bon. Minister of genuine refugees, people, who are examine as tJ what can be done about persecuted in those countries, come here for Article 11 of the Constitution which give. shelter, we will not go back on our commit- power to this Parliament. Both tbe things meot and we wiJ1 stand by tbat commitment. cannot continue together. That is one aSpt~t Tbeo it bas some meaning. Otherwise, the of the matter. ,implications would be quite serious and undesirable. Another thing to whic.:h I would like to invite the attention of the hon. Minister is So. I would like tbe. Minister to clarify section 5 of the Citizenship Act. Section S these points. gives power to the Government that restric- tions for allowing registration can be SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY prescribed. But during all these years DO (Puri) : This Bill is in the right direction. I restriction has been pre~c(lbed. So, naturally. am bappy tbat the hon. Minister has said my submission is that that aspect should be tbat tbis il only one step taken for introduc- examined. 101 a clause of rigidity in tbe law of c;tbeDship. The tbird thiol I would like to point out to tbe hOD. Minister is tbe oath of alleaiance. want to point out one thing. Now tbe I Is it adequate? It requires to be examined. self-styled Commarlder-in-Chief of Somebody may say he has faith and ··Kbalistao" is a citizen of India. The people allegiance in tbe Constitution of India but are ,8IiCatin,g in Jammu and Kashmir woo be docs Dot say that he bas DO allcliance in favour of Pakistan and for plebiscite, are in the Constitution of any otber country 01 cit~C8I of India. So, how can both tbe · the world. Of course, under the lodiara thinas continue? No doubt, when the Citizenship Act. tbe allegiance to botb the Cltizcnsbip Act was "assed, tbat was a countries will Dot be tolerated but as • period, period of partition. The dift"ereat the. matter of fact. they can continue witla it. ~~ of partition' overshadowed all otber Somebody may say he has alleaiaace to the cODIWeratioas. But DOW the things have Constitution of Pak.istan. The 1973 Conatitu- chanted. know aboot -tbe Nepalese ,You tion does not operate there. It bas been people bow .they are doing mischief ,bere. abropted. So, somebody may say be ba. So. there, should be a certaiD degree of faitb and allegiance in the Pakietan·s Con. rilidity and. therefore. I aay tbat the Bill is stitution as well as in tbe Indian Constitu:- in t.,.fiabt directioD •.• tion. That is wby my submission is that One tbinl I would like to know from oath aod alleaianco should be 1.,.11, r • 311 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. NOVEMBER It, 1986 Citizenship CAmdt.} Bill. 312 1986 i9B6 f . ' ; I • (Shri Brajamohan Mohanty) no impact' is there OD tbe Assam Accord. examined and appropriate provisions should There is no intention of dilutiDg tbe Asiam be made. Accord. Another thing which has been referred People who have come into Assam and to is regarding our diplomats having foreign who are eligible for citizenship will be wives. That is a very nice topic. I am very governed by Section 6A for the period which happy that the Government of India has is provided for io the Assam Accord viz., taken n rigid stand that no foreign lady people who came prior to 1966 and tbem would be aHowed to marry our diplomats. people who came between 1966 and 1971. I that i'i all right. Government should stick need only point out that two hone Members from Assam who spoke on the recognis- ·to it. Thank you very much. Bm ed this position and that is wby they have SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : Sir, tbree also supported this Bill. hOI) Members have requested for clarifica- tion on certain points and they have made Shri Indrajit Gupta asked me which are certain (lbservations. I do not think Mr. the African countries from which people are Shahabuddin was present in the House when coming? Some people of Indian stock. I replied to the debate yesterday. Mr. Gupta Indian origin have come in from Uganda, was at!lo not here, aod that is perhaps why Tanzania and Kenya. We are not against some of these questions are being raised people coming in. If you will kindly see the again. Statement of Objects and Reasons we are concerned about clandestine entry of a Jarae As far as Constitutionality is concerned, number of people. People come into tbis I can ooly repeat that Government has country clandestinely. Naturally we must received good advice that the BiJJ js primarily be on the guard. We must be vigilant. Constitution& l. As far as the new clauses We must tighten up our laws, so (a) and (b) are concerned. which have been that people in other countries do not introduced in the Bill, the difference is that think tbat anybody can get into India earlier we rested solely on the principle of at any time and after a period of time Jus soli; today we are moving away. like they can acquire citizenship. many other countries have moved away, to the principle of jus sallgu"ni.~, coupJed with SHRI H"A.IOORA (Srikakulam) : What the element of jus soli. This is not unknown about Nepal and Pakistan? (Interruption,) to many many countries in the world and I think. for the reasons which I said SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM = Pakistan yesterday, we are perfectly justified in has not been (Interruptions). I do not wish moving to the principle of jus sanguinis to discuss each country separately. So rar •• with an element of jus so/l. Nepal is concerned ... SHRI H.A. DORA : That question bal Shri Shabbuddio mentioned that thjs not been answered. BiU will effect people in Assam. Yesterday, I made it clear and I wish to make it clear SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I am once again that the Assam Accord bas been answering. So far 8S Nepal js concerned. the taken care of in Section 6A which was House is aware it is governed by certain introduced earlier tbi~ year and made part provisions of tbe Indo-Nepal Treaty and, of th" Act.' If you will kindly see tbe therefore, just as the Indian cititeol are Citizenship Act, Section 6A is a self- entitled to go to Nepal and eb)oy certaia contained scheme and every step tbat is rights, Nepa1 citizens are also' entitled to necessary to be tak.en in pursuance of tbe come to India and enjoy certain' riahts. Tbae A_am Accord is contained in Secdon 6A. is the sum and substance of, the ArtiCles 6 10 fact Section 6A contains its own and 7 of the Indo-Nepal Treaty wbicb w•• definition and it contains its own substantive discussed in the last S(ssion of Par1iament. provisions and it contains its own procedural flfovisions. This Bilt seeks to amend only Sbri lodrajit Gupta asked a question- Sections 3, Sand 6 and no impact. I repeat are you not fixing an arbitrary date ? ',' i13 Citizenship (Amdt.) lffu, KARTIKA 20. ,1908 (SAKA) Cltizens1tip (Amdt.) Bill. 314 J986 J;86 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Is there DO is reasonable; hone Member Mr. Mohanty clandestine entry from Pakistan? thinks tbat 7 years is reasonable. We have to fix a certain period. So we think tbat 6 SHRI P. CHIDAMDARAM : As far as months is too short for anyone to come people from Pakistan are concerned. Govern- and settle down in this country and under- 'ment has said tbat borders are under stand and accept the responsibilities of constant watcb and we do not encourage citizenship. Six months is too short to det~t anyone from Pakistan to enter India and in clandestine entry, ~ix months is too short to fact B S F. and other forces have taken very find out what activities a person indulges in stern measures against people entering (rom during hIS stay in India. So, on 1he one Pakistan. We are talking of clandestine eotry hand we have to m~ke it clear to people and not entry with (lroper documents. who want to come 10 this country tbat acquiring citizenship is not so easy aoy more. SHRI H.A. DORA: Are you sure They have to stay here for a reasonable about it that tbere is no clandestine entry length of time, they have to unders~and the frdm Pakistan? responsibilities of citizenship in this country and we must have enough time •.• SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : I do not say nobody enters clandestinely. All I can say is SHRI JNDRAJIT GUPTA: What is tbat we are vigilant against clandestine their status during those 5 years? J bave put entry. a specific question. SHR( INDRAJIT GUPTA: What about SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I am people with visa who stay on after the visa answering it. I am coming to tbat. I have period has expired ? noted it. I have noted all your questions. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I am You asked me about 6 months, then you answering that. asked me about the status. I have noted them all, I am coming to them one by ooc. Shri Indrajit Gupta asked me, can you Please allow me to answer. If anything is fix an' arbitrary date? May I ,tell him with left over, then I will answer again. great bumility-every Act has a date of commencement. When no date of commence... We think, Sir, that 5 years is a reasona- ment is fixed. the date of commencement is ble period both for the a,pplicant and for tbe particularly tb~ date on which President gives his assent. Government, (or tbe Govern .. Today. most legislations fix tbe date of ment, to find out what activities he indulges commencement of the Act. Such 8 provision in and to also detect anyone whom we bear is provided for in this Act also. We have has come in clandestinely, We think 5 years to ti~ the date of commencement of the is necessary and so 5 years are kept. So. Act. Yesterday, I explained that whBe fixing the question was asked: What is the , . the date of commencement, we shall take status '1 The answer is simple in Jaw. Any into account the, po~sible hardship to person who is Dot a citizen of India is, as children who may be born during the period far as Indian laws are concerned 8 foreigner. the Bill is bein& debated and pa4:ised. And A foreigner may have tbe citizenship of we shall fix the date of commencement so another country, he may Dot have tbe tbat people will now notic~ that on and citizenship of another country. But to from tbis date the primary ~priDciple of Indian law be is a foreigner. A foreigner citizenship in this country is jus sanguine can come into India and remain in India with an clement of jus soli and not jus soli only with a proper visa. We are arantiol atone. It is a we1l"known legislative devke visas for gennine applicants who come into and I see no difficulty in fixiog a date of this country; we l\re extending visas from commencement of the Act. time to time, but if the person does not have a visa in the sense that he bas come Sir. Igain a question was raised = 'Why into this country without visa, or be remains are you raisinl the period from 6 months to in this country after the expiry of visa, Jet S years l' All , can answer is that while we me make it clear, Sir. he is a foreigner, he think S years is reasonable, hon. Member is liable to expulsion. We are not com- Mr. Moo) Chand Oa.a thouaht tbat 3 yoan promisiDg OD tbat, we do not waDt peoplo 315 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill, NOVEMBER 11, 1986 Citizenship (Amdt.) Bill. 3.' 1986 19~1S [ bri P. Cbidambaram] SHRl P. CHIDAMBARAM: If be bas to come into tbis country without a visa, we a visa, be is a foreigner resident in Jodia. do Dot want people to overstay in this country beyond the expiry of the period of SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will you visa. We intend to take strong action. Then extend his visa for 5 years ? there are considerable difficulties. There aro tremendous difficulties in detecting persons SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: We are and expelling them, but we intend to streng- extending visas for people. We are extendiDg then vigil; we are not going to allow tbe visas for pt0r1c whose activities arc Dot people to come into this country witbout undesirable and who have a genuine reaSOD proper documents or overstay in this country to come to India and stay in India. after the expiry of the visa. In fact, many SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: So, will many countries in the wotld to which, J arn you give him a visa unlil bis application for sure, bon. Members have been, are very reaistration is disposed of ? strict about people entering without docu- ments and overstaying the period for which SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: If we tbey have been given visas. find that bis stay here is not desirabJe, we Sir, bon. Member Mr. Mohantv bas will expel him. If we find that his stay here made some very useful suggestions about is not undesirable, we will extend the visa. exercising the power to terminate citizenship ir he has a genuine reason to stay in India. in certain cases. He has also said that we If he has no reason to stay in India, we will must review the restrictions and the not extend his visa. conditions we impose for granting citizen- ship. He has also asked us to examine SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: What their origin. Sir, I may tell bim that an about the commitment of bona /ide refuRees ? these points are constantly under review and we shall keep his suggestions in mind. SHRI P. CHJDAMBARAM : We must (Interruptions). We shall keep his sugges- wake up to the modern world. No country tions in mind and we will review them. in the world has an optn door policy. I know countries whicb are very tight in tbis In conclusion, may I submit that as I respect. We arc Dot going to have loose and said, this is tbe first place to begin with in liberal provisions. We are going to bave respect of citizenship laws. We have to do provisions which are tight but which will' be more to prevent people corning into this applied fairly and in a non·discriminatory country clandestinelYt we have to prevent fashion. If a man bas aot a genuine reason uninterrupted, clandestine influx of people to come to india, jf be bas a genuine tealoD in to this country and I think we have made . to stay in India and bis activities are not a good beginning. 1 once again appeal undesirable, he will be given a visa te I'ay throuab you, Sir, to the bon. Houae to in India. support tbis measure. SHRIINDRAJlT GUPTA: You have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Dot answered specific questions. question is : SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I have "That the Bill be passed." answered every point you raised. The motion "as adopted. SHRI INDRAJIf GUPTA: I am not , talking now about the people who have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER.: Now emend clandestinely. Somebody has come we adjourn for Lunch. and meet at 2.00 p.m. here and he wants to apply for reRistratioD, be cannot apply according to your Amend- ment Bill until be has already been 13 02 brl. resident here for 5 years, 1 wanted to know, The Lok Sabba then adjourned for Lunch 13.00 .rl. till Foorteen of tlte Cloek. what would be the Jeaa) status of tbose perIODs durinl tbose five years ? 917 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem 01 KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) T'amili'ans in Sri Lanka 318 Tile Lok Sabb. fe-as.embled after Luuth . feeling is tbat you are all acting at the at fi,e .Ioutes pal' Fourteen of tbe Clock. behest of tbe Government of India. There- fore, they are all arrested there. (Ma. DBPUTY SPEAKER In the Chair) f'ROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Per- DISCUSSION ON ETHNIC' PROBLEM baps be means that hospilaJity is due to OF TAMILIANS IN SRI LANKA tbem; hostilities are due to tbe Centre. (I "t~'rupllon$) {EII,li,h] SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER = Now, we This is unfortunate. This is unprecedented. take up Agenda Item No. 13--Discussion This is detestable; reprehensible. NotbinB UDder Rule 193. Shri Bbattam Srirama- more I can say about this. The main fY'urty will initiate the discussion. point is this. I t is said that tbe Ccntre has nothing to do with this episode. It is SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY only the Police action by the State Govern- (Visakhapatoam) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, ment. The Centre wants to absolve itself at the outset, I record nly sense of protest of an responsibilities for tbis. This il aaainst the way in which the militant Tamil worse. Can anybody take this version for leaders of Sri Lanka are treated in Tamil. granted? The international community oadu by the State Government and at the exercises its wisdom. Nobody is prepared instance of tbe Government of India. to take this version of the Government of India for granted. In this connection I PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE would like to read a news item which bas (Rajapur): Witb the concurrence of tbe appeared in the Times of India. They call Centre ... it 'Operetion Disarm'. This is not (or any criminal act of anybody. This action is SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: meant (or disarming the militants. This They are leaders of a freedom movement. is ca1led 'Operation Disrarm'. The paper They are fighting for their own home-land, bas also said that the disarming operation Tbey are fighting for right of self.determl- of the militants bas obviously taken place nation. You may agree or not; they have at the instance of the Centre. The Centre put uP not onfy a strong fight but also they is very much in the picture. My friend Mr. have shown an unprecedented bravery, Kolandaivelu may have said something. valour and tbey have undergone untold But they are acting on behalf of the Central sufferings and hardships. They have made Government. I am squarely bJaming the areat lacrifices. These freedom fighters today Centre. The Government of Tamil Nadu are in a 'position to form the Government are now acting as per the instructions of In tho North of Sri Lanka. They can have the Government of India. May I also their own civil administration. They can refer to a Press report in tbe Hindu by no bave their own Secretariat. They can set Jess a person than Sbri G. K. Reddy, a up their rural Courts. This is the position veteran, seasoned and senior journalist? to wbich they have arrived at 'oday. Those Having so much of access. to the Prime leaders are now treated in a shabby manncr Minister and to the highest circles of in tbe. State of Tamilnadu, by arresting administration. He has stated : them; interrogating them; detaining them in their own houses just like ordinary criminals. "The Centre is understood to have Thil is unbefitting. This is highly repre- directed the Tamil Nadu Govern- hensible. ment to place a number of Sri Lankan Tamil militant leaders under SHill P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti· c house arrest until the end of tbe p.layam): Sir, as for as Tamil Nadu is Bangalore SAARC summit for security concerned, we are treiJting them as guests. reasons." with dignity and honour. ' Everybody is of abe same opInion. Ie has SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: been done obviously at the instance of the If.l '0)' casr, ~ou ,re llavinB your S~f. My Qov~r~Qle~t Qf !n~~~ ~nd perhaps in c;:oR- 319 Dis. on Ille Elhnic Problem NOVEMBER 11. 1986. of Tamllions in Sri Lanka 3~q: (Sbri Bhattam Srirama Murty} are arre6ted. It has a demoralising effect. lultation with them: tbey had initialed It will certainly hamper tbe prolrCS8 of tbe actlon because of tbe Government of Iodia. negotiations and everytbinl else. Witbout Not only that, it is also stated here: these militant Jeaders, you will not be able to continue negotiations and achieve a last- "It was decided by them .•. " ing solution. I t is impos$ible. You must realise tbat. Tbe TULF leaders bave dODO That is .. the Prime Minister and lhe Chief their very best. I coDaratul.te them and Minister during the latter's recent visit I tbank them for tbat. they bave helped here: the Government of India, tbey have CO- operated with them; whenever tbey wanted "It was decided by them yesterday ahem, they participated in tbe discussions wben they met in Delhi to confine and negotiations either in Tbimpu or in these Tamil militants to their homes Colombo even at tbe cost of losing tbeir until tbe conclusion of the SA ARC owo goodwill among the people; some of Conference. " the militant leaders of Sri Lanka did it. But what is happening today? Wbat has What does it go to show ? Everybody happened to them? They have now 80ne is of tbe opinion that tbe Centre bas every- to .he background. Unless tbe militant tbing to do. When you act you hold leaders also 1ake part in the oeaotiatioos, DO yourself responsible for your action. Wby solution is possible. Not only this Govero- do you adopt this ostrich policy? Wby do ment but the Government of Sri Lanka you lhink that the whole world is also also realised this. Therefore, tbey must be sleeping when you are asleep? It is wide made a party to tbe negotiations. Without awake, with eyes wide open. They are able their participation, no lastin, solution is to understand what is what. Therefore, let possible. Under tbese circumstances, I not the Government adopt this kind of question: this is the treatment which you attitu Ie. Let them take up a stand, strong, want to give to them. That is why I cal" stiff, stern, definite. deliberate and bold and it unfortunate, it i~ reprehensible. The let them hold themsdvcs responsible for f'!oint is this. As €l matter of fact. tbe that. We will appreciate that. Whether it Centre may have two objectives. One may is right or wrong, it does not matter. They be that in the coming SAARC meeting, tbe must have the courage of conviction and Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi may hold take action. That is what is wanting from discu~!;ions with Mr. Jayewardene to pavo the beainoir.g. That is how this issue has the way for further negotiations, discussions been dragging on for years together. It is and thing'> like that. He wanted to placate very unfortunate. There is no Minister in ~1r. Jayewardene. That may be ooe reason the Mmistry of External Affairs who is pos~ibly. The other reason is that tbe so1ely anj mainly reltponsihle and in charge Centre mny want to force the militant Tamil of Sri Lanka issue. Number of Ministers leaders to agree to go to the l1egotiatioll may come and go. It is a different matter. table. ' After all, Cabinet is a pack of cards in the bands of the Prime Minister. He can Let me examine the first one namely, shuffle and r~shume. it as he pleases. We Mr. Jayewardene's attitude and tbe possible canDot question it. He can do that. A outcome of fu~ure negotiations at tbe number of Ministers in the Ministry of SAARC summit at Bangalore. Sir. I bave External Affairs may come and go. What no hope whatsoever that anything worth- I. want is. exclusively for. dealing with this while will come out of this because of tbe question of the problem of Tamils in Sri attitude of Sri Lanka which is very clear. Lanka, let there be a Minister, devoted Sri Lankan are following a palticular entirety, fully and solely to this problem and p~ttern. They want military action aDd let him be made responsible for that. military solution first and laCer a political Otherwise, it will be difficult for anybody to solution. If you don't want this. tbey show results. want to combine both military action and politica1 solution simultaneously. They There is a very unfortunate situation want to conduct operations asaiast tbe Sri where the Je~der~ of tb,e ra~il Moyemefit ~~tln~a$l Tamilst use yio),m~e, ~ill ~s mao, 321 Dis. on the Etlmk Problem KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) 0/ Tamilians ill Sri Lanka 322 .s possib Ie. do whatever tbey waot and tben Sri Lanka. One of my friends whom I bad request t bem to come to the negotiation occasion to meet recentJy said that S6 table. Th at is the pattern that is being members of his family-aJI relations were foUowed by them. done to death in the course of two hours. Men and women were mercilessly In the Bangalore SAARC meeting massacred. Nobody could help. When possibly what I visualise is that, please mark an that was done, Mr. Jayewardene was my words Mr. Minister, Mr. Jayewardene here at Delhi to participate in negotiations. will have a word of advice from the Prime On June 18th, after completing all the Minister of India. He has already said demolition operations, he said "ceasefire". tbat "he is like my grand-son". He would That was cleared. What is the use? say that "you have already done enough, Please see wbat bad bappened. The same you have already made a beginning, you thing will be repeated again after SAARC have now to mount pressure against the meeting. That is my apprehension. I militants and dismantle their camps further can't say much more. Probably J cannot in order to achieve more. Then only there read more. I am not a seer, I am not a u will be a lasting peace. Mr. Jayewardene prophet. I cannot foresee what is going to may tender similar advice. happen; but the course uf history shows tbe trends and it is for us to read from [ Tran~/atlon] tbem. SHRI BAPULAL MALVIYA So for as militants are concerned what (Shajapur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, is is the position? Government of India may tbe bon. Member aware of the facts or is try to coerce them to bring them to tbe it something imaginary? Is this the conference table. If so, this is not the way way? to achieve this objective. I would like to (Interruptions) differ. My own feeling is that they may like rather to pack up, lock stock and barrel (English) and leave this land and go to tbe shores of their own country, shed their b100d and SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: die, if necessary, rather than being The men aod materials are moviog towards humiliated in tbis country. You please do tbe north. The troop movement is already not throw self-respecting leaders to that towards Jaffna. Therefore, soon after SAARC sen~e of desperation. I hope this will not meeting is over, the bombardment will take happen. It should not happen too. I place, people will b~ destroyed, villages will want th-:m to come to the negotiating table. be ravaged and totally destroyed. That I want a lasting solution to be achived will happen. That will be tbe outcome through discussions and negotiatjon~. of the SAARC so rar as I could under- Mr. Chander Hasan and his friends are stand. on a relay fast. Their counter .. parts are May be, it is a flight of imagination as wedded to something different. So my friend would like to put it. Let me see what is tbe alternative for them? ]f they how the future events will turn out to be. want to go on in a p~nceful fashion conduct- Afterall, it is a question of trends of ing negotiations will it result in something history with the help of which we may be substantial 1 Therefore, we cannot say able to see what is goina to happen in what is correct and what is not correct or future. This is the trend which is already what is good aDd what is not good. I can available. The portents are ob"ious. only recall at this moment what Mahatma Gandhi had once said. He was an exponent May I now say for the benefit of the of the creed of non·violance. Even tben Minister tbat on 1st June 1985 when he had said that he preferred violence to President layewardene was here in Delhi cowardice. He had said if you do r,ot kill for negotiations, for discussion with our somebody at least get killed for a cause. Prime Minister, at that time what happaned Therefore, they are left with no option. in Sri Lanka? Hundreds of villages were The militants are there. They are in the demolished and destroyed. They were aU focus because of the action of the Govern .. P1rl' t9 'llQi~ila.~ ,~e T.mil populat~oD of ~eDt of lndi .. ~ The .. rrost 9f mjJit~llt8 ip 323 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER 11, 1986 of Tamilians in Sri Lanka 324 [Shri Bhaltam Srirama Murty] Apart from this, what do the Human Tarnil Nadu is traced to law and order Rights Commission say? As late as problem Is it a mere law and order October 3, a large number of Tamil civilians problem? If it is a law and order problem were massacred and thousands rendered then those people guilty on an offence may homeless by SIi Lankan army in the coastal be put behind the bars and action taken belt of Trincowa lee. What does the report against them. But that is not what has in the Hindu say? It says: happened there. All the leaders of the four militant organisations were simultaneously "Over a thousand army and navel arrested and their offices raided ar.d their personnel launched a combined attack arms and weapons seized. All of them from land, sea and air on civilian were arrested. I am told they are under targets destroying hundreds of houses. house arrest. This is what has happened schools, and tamples, The troops at Ching'eput, Tiruchirapalli, Tbanjavur, indulged in a frenzy of arson, loot and Salern, Ramanathapurcm, etc. This is a rape. Innocent people were rounded concerted, deliberate and pre planned up and slaughtered. Air Force planes action. III tbe process my apprehension started bombing villages in a search and is that we are exposed. Government of destroy mission." India is exposed, All along we bad held the view and told other countries that there Can you stop this? This has been happening is DO militant camp here in this country. mercilessly and continuously. We are not harbouring them. There are DO Tamil militants stationed in this country. Apart from the need for your coming They are not operating from here. But to the rescue of the unfortunate Tamil now what do (he pre-s report'; say ? The brethern in Sri Lanka, I would like to ask press report> say that a large quantity of what you have done for the fishermen of arms and ammunition seized which included this country? SAM missiles, roc'cet launchers, AK 47 automatic and seml-autornatc guns, two Could you get compensation for them? inch mortars. hand grenades and rifles. Did you insist for that? No compensation That means you are harbour ing them. In bas been paid to Indian citizens who this process we are exposed. With what suffered lossess and damage in Sri Lanka face you will put forth any proposal before in ) 983. Nothing has been done for them so far. Shri Jayawardene who is coming to auend SAARC meeting? My point is if you the Then, the London based Amnesty wanted to do that you cout.! have done it International, which is the 1977 Noble in a silent manner. This is not way ihe Prize winner, charged that the Sri Lankan to do things. I <10 not know why Government was not taking any action to Government has 10,( the sense of propor tion clarify the fate of more than 300 Tamils and sense of understanding of the dynamics who are alleged to have been of international politics. Who t reflection does abducted. The Human Rights Organization it cast? the world not aware of what Is in a letter to Athu!athmudali, Minister of is happening and what the here conclusion National Security said that Colombo should other countries would draw from this? now consider inviting 'UN Working Group If the Government of Sri India thinks that on Disappearances' to exrnine these cases, Lankan Government will be satisfied with but it had no response. The Amnesty this, you art! mistaken. you will be surely International said that the Sri Lanknn disappointlld. the Nation- Athularhmudali, Government have not taken any action to al Security Minister has come forward with clarify 272 cases. This is continuing and a statement 111:It the militant leaders were will continue. There is no other go. You just arrested and released 3ft· a few hours. r have to put up with this. Can the He is not this. He says: satisfied with Government stop this rampage? Can tbey "My view point was vidicatcd; my version do anything ? was proved." Now, vou want to strengthen the hands of the Sri lank an Government. What do the Tamil leaders want? They It is a very sorry picture that you are want the women, children and others should prC!!elltios to tbe world. not be done to death, they want that their I. .,." 1 " I ,~ , 325 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem KAB.TIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) of TamiiianJ' ill Sri Lanka 326 womenfolk should not be' abducted and tbat summary IdlJiols aqd rape sbould be raped; tbey want protection for their own stopped. This is tbeil,f demand and they Ufe. Do tbey waDt anytbiol more ? Can want nothing more tban tbis. )'ou do this mucb? You cannot do that. In tbat case, is it a futile exercise that you Even under the Terrorists Act, four have been dojD8 all tbe time? Sbri Natwar categories of people are kept in prison. Singb bas had a lona stay in tbe Ministry Their cases were reviewed and re-examineJ of External Affairs. He is a good man and by experts, for instance by tbe Attorney 1 wisb tbat be may be able to do something, General aod the Advisory Board. Those It is not a question of dealing with people recommended that tbey may be let Sri Lanka alone. Britain, Cbina, Italy, off because there was no reason and 'beir South Africa aDd United States of America imprisonment was unwarranted. So their con- bave been supplying Sri Lanka with various tinued imprisonment is baseless and meaning- kinds of arms and equipment which bas Jess, and they have been advised by their 0\\ D been used to oppress Tamilians. Israel bas authorities that tbese people may be released. also provided army experts; Britain's channel Even then, tbey do not release tbem and islands are supplying the Colombo regime about 1050 persons are still there and about with mercenaries. Sri Lankan troops are 4500 people are now rotting in jails. Can trained in Pakistan. Israel sent a fleet of you do anything for them? Can you !leJp naval craft. Now Sri Lanka wants warships! them in any manner? If you will not be On top of all this, comes the news that the able to do anything for them, then nothing US Stale Department has decided to include else can be done. Sri Lanka in tbe list of couDtries entitled for aid to deal with terrorists. Most of tbe So far as the stand of the militants is military aid to tbe extent of several billions concerned, they have got valid reasons. They 80 to Ceylon already. visualise certain difficulties after tbe packase of proposals are out forward. Now our So Sir, it is time tbat India takes it up friend, the young Minister Shri Chid6mbaram with the United States of America in all did very well. He went to Colombo at a 8f'riousness. America should be told that time when we all felt that it was a dead end any military assistance to Jayewardene will and there was a stalemate. At that time have the effect of unleashing a reign of he went there and he had a round of terror on Tamils and it would be considered discussions and certain formulations were au unfriendly act and it wilJ sour our Indo- proposed. This was followed by two rounds US relations. of discussions. We hoped that further discussions also might follow. So, now the Jayewardene now says that be will stop question is a matter of debate and food supply, electricity supply and so on. discussion. He insists that the Government of India sbould pledge itself to cooperate fuHy with The main thing is that the proposal tbe Sri Lankan Government with a view to provides for separate councils for Northern briDS about a rapproachment and Eastern provinces. The miJitants or settlement and bring tbe wanted that the two provinces may be militants to their feet. What is all this? combined. Earlier they said about only How absurd tbis proposition is t Unless one. Now tbey bave stated that two of there is total ceasetire. unless there is tbem should be combined. This is tbe complete unanimity af; far as ceasefire is point. They feel tbat there is contiauity concerned, it is impossible. What is it that and there is majority of Tamil people in tbe Friends of EEAAM are fasting here for? tbese two provinces and since these two are What is their demand? They want that the knit together by bonds of friendship, kinsbip indiscriminate arrest of Tamils should be and friendJy relations and in every manner, stopped. They want tbat the indefinite and they feel tbat the two provinces should be endless incarceration of Tamils should be combined together. According to the stopped. They want tbat the torture of present formulation, tbe Centre bas tbe Tamils sbould be stopped. They also want right to dispose of land for irrigation at nd that destruction of Tamil villages and places land development programmes. In t bis of wonbip sbould be stopped aod they want reaard they bad some bitter experien,e in , > , 321 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEM BER 1) t 1986 of Tamiltanl in Sri LQnka 328 (Sbri Bhattam Srirama Murt)'} Germany bas the bishest number-22.000. the past. With a view to reduce Tamil Tbey start from Colombo. Throuab Blat majority in certain pockets, they will Germany, tbey have arrived in Western forceabJy settle some Simbalese Persons in Europe with no money, with no luuase but those areas. This. is tbe practice. Therefore, with a lot of couraae. Sweden is sendiog they said that this would not do" This the Tamils away from its borders. Switzer- question of land settlenlent, develop- 1andt traditionally, the home for tbe refugees is exceptionally harsh towards Tamils. Tho ment and selling of land should vest with tbe State Government only, i.e. the homeless are given tokens instead of money provincial Government. Tb is is what tbey in certain shops. They are kept out of the main stream.. They are treated like have said. pariahs-They are asked to leave tbe Then, again, the Parliament there has country. got powers to legislate on subjects within Sir, in West Germany. Netherlands, the jurisdiction of provinces. This again is Sweden and Belgium. tbey are not sranted not acceptable to them. refugee status. In Netherlands, there was a The President bas got the sweeping Parliamentary debate on the Tamil problems. emergency powers. In the name of la\\' and 3500 Tamils were told that they are at tbe order, the Centre has got over-riding powers. end of their holiday and they sbould leave now. This is tbe position. Therefore we Therefore, Sirt they say, the proposals are inadequate. They fail to meet the basic sbould help tbem. That being the case of aspirations of tbe people. Therefore, tbey the refugees in other parts of tbe world, do have totally rejected, the premises on wbich you want tbe same situation to obtain in tbe proposals are made. They have this country also 1 You will have to stop inalienable right for their own homeland. tbis. This cannot go on. They should have a right of self- determination-the devol ution of powers- (Translatlon) as in the case of India. J t does not hold good in respect of Sri Lanka because that SHRI SHYAM LAL Y ADA V happens to be racist regime. It is merciless (Varaoasi) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, tbe and ruthless in its dealings with Tamils. So, way Shri Bbattam initiated tbe discussion on tbat being the case, there is some point in this issue, it appeared that he did not want tbat and that bas got to be debated, to realise the gravity of the situation in tbe discussed and thrashed out further, in what- right perspective. He objected to tbe ever manner possible. Therefore, you searches made of the refugees in Tamil Nadu strengthen the hands of tbose people and do but be himself said that arms had been not break their backbone, you do not break recovered from them and he was speaking their morale and you do not shatter tbe against it. I am of the view tbat it is hopes of the people by re!l;orting to basically a question of law and order which unfortunate methods. What has bappened Tamil Nadu Government bas tried to solve to the people, who are now taking refuge in in its own way, which to my mind is tbc other lands? Sir. people have taken refuge correct one. We are aware that tbo in European countries-Sri Lao¥an, Tamils. conditions in Sri Lanka are quite difficult What is happening to them ? They are and also how a state of confrontation everywhere told that they are unwelcome. developed between the people of Tamil In country after country, they are being sent origin and tbe Sinhalese. I will come to out. They are not even given the status of that subject later OD but it is true tbat tbe refugees. It is very unfortunate. Are you situa tion in Sri Lanka is quite grim and doing anything about tbis? Can you help about 1,50,000 people have migrated to them '1 Can you at least be1p confer 00 them India and are living in Tamil Nadu. Wo the statu~ of refugee? That is also not done. can very well imagine the burden which bas Thousands of young Tamils from ~rj Lanka fallen OD tbe Tamil Nadu Government or have been arriving in Europe-SO.OOO of Government of India, but this wilJ bave to them are there. They just came in from be conceded that tbe foreigners who flee to El(,t Germany-and most of them are in J ndia, either due to some crisis or as a result the age group of 18 to 35 years. West of atrocities committed 00 tbem, have lomO 32~ I>ls. DII the Ethnic Problem KA.RfU(.A 20t 1908 (SAKA) 0/ Tamilians in Sri Lanka 330 responsibility. Tbcy should seo tbat tbey languaae and culture is common witb us. do Dot disturb the peace and law and order Therefore. it was natural that tbero was a of tbo country in wbicb tbey take refuge aDd widespread resentment in our country and do not pose any challenge to the tbe peopJe pressurised the Government to administration. We bave been observing take initiative in this matter. The Govern- iofiabtina among their different factions ment of India played a prominent roJe in resulting in murder of one person. Keeping resolving tbe Tamil problem and tbe results this in view, I think there was no other bave been very encouraging. These have alternative before the T &11llil Nadu Govern .. made a good impact. We know that Sri ment but to take stern action to maintain Lankan Government wanted tbat tbe tbe law and order. Action taken by it bas disturbances should be quelled with police been praised by everyone but it in no way force and by use of arms and they used the means tbat anyone in this country supports force so brutally that not only in our the action of the Sri Lankan Government. country but also in the entire world there It is true that ever since we got independence was outcry against it and the people say since 1950 differences between tbe condemned it. Now a lot of progress bas Sinhalese majority and the Tamil minority been made in meeting the demands of tho bave been surfacing and tb~re have been Tamils. Tamil organisations want to clasbes between the two communities. Later establish their own State.. Eelam. under Sri on, in 1956 with the declara tion of tbe Lankan Government. The Sri Lankan Sinhalese as the official language there, we Oovernmen t was not at all ready to concede are aware hON the Tamil speakiog people it. But ever since the Government of India were discriminated against. All this resulted started taking interest and talks were he1d. in riots which after 2 years assumed serious the results seem to be quite encouraging. proportions resulting in heavy Joss of life and property. In addition to the language In tbe beginning Sri Lankan Government issue, Tamils' grievance regarding discrimi- was not at aU ready to bold talks, '0 come nation in the matter of jobs is also genuine. to tbe negotiating table because it wanted a Even in areas like East and North provinces military solution and not a political solution which are pre-dominantly Tamil areas, of the prob1em. But the efforts made by efforts were made to settle sinhalese there Government of India to solve the problem gradualJy so that with the passage of time broke the deadlock and a dialogue was tbeir minority may be converted into started. Our Prime Minister had said in majority. No one could bave accepted such tbe very beginning that tbey do not want to a situation. With the same end in view, jeopardise the sovereignty and unity of the tbe Buddhists of other provinces. who are country and want a settlement with the in majority, were given a special status and above thing in mind. Jt was a test of our were also given preference in the matter of diplomacy to brioS round different Tamil education and jobs. From this it was felt factions as wen as Sri Lankan Government. that Tamils were being neglected in every The Government of India gave a good field and were also being deprived of their account of itself by takiDg interest in tbe rigbts. It was natural for tbe Tamils to negotiations with both the parties. harbour a sense of insecurity and a ppreben- sion. Sri Lankan Government should have Sir, as I had said earlier. Tamils want tired to resolve tbe issue. But what we see an autonomous province of their own in 16 tbat the steps taken by the Government Sri Lanka. Talks were held in Tbimpu in of tbat country to resolve the issue bad June 1985 and later OD in De'hi. These adverse effect and tbe problem, instead of talks did not make much headway. beiDI solved, became aggravated. TerribJe Subsequently. our Minister of State Shri carnaae took place there and the attention Cbidambaram went to Sri Lanka in a of the world was drawn towards them. It situation wben both the sides bad almost was universally condemned and in our closed the doors for taJks. But after bis country aho, widespread resentment was visit and efforts, the negotiations have started expressed against it because these Tamils again and r.ow Sri Lankan President Shri were of Indian origin. May be they ha,:! Jayawardenc bas submitted a proposa J' W}, 'C" 10lle tbere hundred years ago or in Ctrtain sbows that he is ready for deceDtralj~~itl(Jll parts even thousand ycars aBO but their of power. They waDt to .et up couDcil. ~3i Dis. on the Ethnic Problem N()VEMBER 11, 1986 01 Tamiiians in Sri LatJca i~i (Sbri Sbyam Lal Yadavl Tamils bave apprehensions that in futore tbey can be suppressed by the Government, there and want to bold elections in tbe their riabts can be trampled and they can provinces 00 the basis of proportional be discriminated against. If thcy are Dot IcpreaentatioD in whicb tbe majority party provided with tbe required protection, tbeD will form the Government with its leader as bow can these apprehensions be allayed 7 tbe Chief Minister. Wbat powers should Can these apprehensions be allayed? For be given to tbe Regional Council or tbe this we shall have to see that tbe decisions Provincial Council, tbat is still under taken, the changes made in the constitution dispute. by Sri Lankan Government or tbe Govern- Sbri Jayewardcne bas also talked of ment orders issued in this direction arc so worded that the apprehensions of Tamils are givins some limited law and order powers as completely alJayed. well as land rights but he does not want to give any right about tbe crown Ja[ld. The This is the need of the bour. The Central Government or tbe Unitary Govern- Tamils were incarcerated in larger number ment there wants to keep many rights about and butchered by branding them as terrorits. this land with itself. Similarly, tbey do not But it is no use repeating these incidents waot to give all tbe rights of law and order as it would serve onJy to inflame their to tbe Tamils. 1 think talks can be be.ld on feelings but would not be helpful in fioding these issucs also. a satisfactory solution to any problem. The differences between the two sides arc only about tbe formation of the Govern- Therefore, whatever happened was ment. Sbri Ja),cwardcne wanls that for tbe unfortunate and improper which we shall purposes of elections. Northern and Eastern have to forget. We shall bave to create Provinces should be treated as separate units circumstances which may be conducive for and that separate council should be esta· finding a solution to the present situation. blished for each province whereas the Tamil organisations want that these should oot be My colleague, Shri Bhattam bas said separated but should be treated as a single that this action was taken in Tamil Nadu unit because the Tamils are in overwhelming in view of the impending talks with Sbri majority in the Northern Province and in Jayewardene who is scheduled to visit tbe the Eastern, Province Sinhalese as well as country. To my mind, this is a wrona Muslim population is also tbere. That is assessment of the situation and he is not why Shri Jayewardene wants to keep tbem doing justice to the problem. Tbis was only as separate units but the main demand of a question of law and other tbere and I tbe Tamils is tbat tbe Northern and the think the Government of India has Dotbins Eastern Provinces should be merged into to do wHb it. They have not given any one. This is tbe fundamental difference sucb information on tbe basis of which between tbe two sides that has emerged. I he has reached this conclusion. think tbere is sufficient possibility of a The bon. Minister would clarify it while solution of the problem and tbe way our repJying but prima facie there seems to be Government is carrying on the talks, I think no trutb in it. Tb~ Tamil Nadu Govern- the re~utts will be encouraging. ment has also clarified this tbing. They are We should keep this thing in mind that fighting with eacb other; what can tbe do in this regard? What elso at present tbere are about S Tamil factioDS Government involved in thc negotiations and they may could they have done in tbis resaId 1 be baving some differences. Some of tbem Therefore, be has raised this point just to make political capital out of or to criti- may be wi11ing to ·consider this proposal it cise tbe Government. He also said that while others do not agree with it or ratber are against it. So what is required is to a Mioister should be its incbarae which I think is justified. Thc discuss tbis proposal further to decide the not prime Minister formulates tbe foreign policy of the nation dcvelution of power i.e. what should be the and 18)5 down its guidelines. The Minister eX!('nt of regional autonomy and in what tbat policy. way local and regional public bodies should in'fbarge implements There- fore, tbere bas never been any uncertainly or bo constituted and witb wbat po"",crs? The 333 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) oj'TamUlans in Sri Lanka 334 iostabillty at any place. Tbsre bas Dot ment and also want to give some power. been any lack of vision or initiative. to tbe provinces. 1/1' The matters which can Whatever tbe situation. best efforts were be dealt with by both of tbem. come under made to find a solution to tbe problem. concurrent list. But their proposal canDot conform to the provisions of the Indian We should keep it in our mind tbat Constitution; it may have the same spirit peace in our neighbouring country is but in a modified form. The COUDCn, necessary because if there are disturbances of tbe provinces will be vested with full there. tbe foreign powers would fish in powers to deal with the subjects or depart- troubled waters. We have to 'be very care- ments assianed to them. If this scheme is ful 10 this respect lest any action by us implemented OD trial basis by botb the should result in a situation which may sides. it is my belief that any lacuna or be exploited by the foreign powers, who are shortcomings experienced in the course of inimical to us. These foreign would also of its implementation can be resolved like to instigate tbe neigbbouring country through mutual . discussion. I think Shri against us. To my mind, Sbri Jayewar- Jayewardene also feels, altbough he does dene also realises that due to the inida· not say it, that without solving this problem live taken by Shri Rajiv Gandhi to solve or Sri Lanka. he cannot run his Govern- tbis problem, various Tamil factions have ment for long. Therefore, it is also in his negotiated with the Sri Lankan Government, interest that he should find a peaceful which has yielded good results and we have solution and not a miJitary solution to fbis also received some constructive suggestion problem of Tamils. He should win the in this regard. Therefore, this problem is confidence of the Tamils and honour their being solved through negotiations. To my feelings and find a solution which is mind. various factions have discussed it. acceptable to aU. The cooperation and The leader of T, U ,L F .. and other groups tbe initiatives of tbe Government of India bave accepted it but there are some will go a long way in making that solution militant groups whose attitude in this acceptable. Our present Minister of respect is not clear. We must persuade State for Foreign Affairs. Sbri Natwar them that they sbould take advantage of Singh has the experience of running tbis the opportunity offered to them and try to department and he will try to solve tbis solve their problem. problem according to the principles and We do Dot want tbat what is happening wishes of the hon. Prime Minister. In in Sri Lanka should bappen in our country. this way the Tamil problem in Sri Lanka To my mind, whatever steps have been wouJd be solved in an honourable way. taken by the Government of India in this regard. clearly show that she wants a )5.00 firs. political solution of this problem. We have warned the Jayewardene Government In the end I would like to say tbere that 8 military solution of the problem is are two to three aspects of this problem. not the right step. If there is unrest, it First, tbe whole country. be it, South. would not be possibJe to find a solution to East, West or North is with the Tamils and the problem. We have succeeded in condemns tbe atrocities, massacre of the convincing them 81}d it is as a result of Tamils and damage caused to their property. that only that the Government of Sri Lanka We also expect from the Government of bas come forward to negotiate in this Sri Lanka that it should not ill'reat its own regard and tbey have submittrd a number citizens with a vengeance as if it were of proposals. fighting some aliens. She should not try to deport them; instead she should caU We must bear in mind that the Govern- them back and provide them a chance to ment of Sri Lank.a Is a unitary t}'pe of live peacefully. Secondly. the problem Government and it is not federal like I)ur must b" solved in an amicaJe manner tbrough Government where the States have been negotiations with an the groups, wbether vested with exclusive powers. It is evident they are militants. T. U.L.F. or any other from their proposal that they want to group. Thirdly, it is evident .ba t the Rl,hlt~jQ t~eif u~~tary c~afa (Shri Shyam Lal YadavJ work of a united Srilanka. We believe India should feel the burden of the refugees that in the framework of a united Srilanka, but it should not act in the same manner with a good measure of self-administering as the Government of Tarnil Nadu did. opportunities to the Tamilians can help Therefore, I hope that everybody would find a solution. A slogan of dividing participate in the talks with Shri Jayewar- Srilanka is not going to help the Tamilians, dene which have been quite encouraging It will help only the American Imperialists so far and would try to reach a solution to interests. Already American imperialists the problem. Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv are getting more and more involved in this Gandhi will have to deal with this problem othnic crisis in Srilanka. President Jayewar- patiently. He will have to bear in mind dene is relying heavily on the American the resentment within the country and he military aid. The U. S. State Department will also have to ensure that the integrity has included Srilanka in the list of and national unity of the neighbouring countries which qualify for aid for combat- country is not jeopardised. We derive con- ing terrorism. In tbe name of combating fidence from the fact that he has success- terrorism U.S. imperialism is pouring in fully tackled all the problems and the heavily to Srilaoka. Srilanka U.S. Military violence which erupted in some of the axis has been long evident for quite some States. I hope that very soon Sbri time. Report says tbat in this year alone Jayewardene is visiting this country and he eleven U.S. naval sbips have visited would utilise the opportunity to find a Srilanka. Top military officers from solution to the problems of the Tamils. U.S.A. are holding discussion with Srilan- kao leaders. American U.S. pilots arc With this, I conclude. bel ping Srilankan air force and Srilaokan Government has already given some land [English) Voice of America. There is a therat of U.S. Military base in Srilaoka. All this SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : is posing serious tbreat to our internal Respected Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have security, as we all know. It is this aid, been discussing in this House again and this imperialist aid that has given tbe false again the atrocities that are being committed notion to President Jayewardene that by the Sri Lank an military againgst the military solution is possible or be can find innocent Tamil people. I join the whole out a military solution. I would like to House in expressing our deep sympathy know from the hon. Minister why is tbe and regard for the oppresed Tamil brethern Government of India not coming out openly of Sri Lanka. againgt U.S. imperialists invervention in this area, in this etbnic crisis ? It is posing The Sri Lankan State is at war with a serious threat to our security. its own people. An estimate shows that about )0,000 innocent Tamils are killed in Our country is faced witb the problem tbe span of a few years. Lakhs bave taken of refugees. refuge in Tamil Nadu. The situation has deteriorated to such an extent that even the PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur) : What most ardent advocates of Jayewardene about China? Government finds it difficult to justify atrocities committed by Sri Lankan military SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY which has degenerated into one of the (Katwa) : We are telling them to drive most indisciplined armed forces in the U.S. out. world. Next week our Prime Minister PROF. N.G. RANGA Let us be and President Jayewardene are meeting to frank. discuss about this problem. President Jayewardene should understand that Sri- SHRI SURESH KURUP: You are lankan economy has already been ruined not concerned with U. S. imperialism. and the whole Srilankan State itself can carry forward only by finding an amicable SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANOALAM political solution to this ethnic problem. (Salem) : We are concerned with all 1\ solution can he found only in the frame forms of imperialism. (Jnferrupfio"s~ . 3:37 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem K~RTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) 01 Tam/lions in Sri Lanka 338 saRI SURESH KURUP : Sir, our too are involved in the sinister same of couotry is faced with the problem of re- aiding the Sinhalese majority to repress the fugees and aJso with the threat to our vital Tamils. Therefore. t he issue is so delicate national interests. So finding an amicable that we must see that for the negotiated pol itiga 1 settlement to tbis crisis is of settlement an the concerned parties come to paramount importance to our country. So, tbe negotiating table. It is not only one while denouDcing the geoecide that is group, namely, TULF that sbould negotiate, loing on in Sri Lanka and while .but we should succeed in bringing to tho using every tactic and pressure upon negotiating table the other militant groups tbe Sri Lankan Government for putting an also. There are several other militant end to tbis crime, we must use an our good groups, I would not give the Jist as every offices for findiog a political solution to one of you already know. They are LTTE, this problem. President Jayawardene and ENLF. EROS, TELO, EPRLF, PLOTE etc. other Sri Lankan authoritIes should under- Unless all these militant groups along with stand that military might and State TULF come to the negotiating table aod terrorism can never suppress the collective have a negotiated settlement, as far as this will of tbe people. All Tamil groups should issue is concerned, there will be difficulties understand that a divided Sri Lanka would in implementing the whole settlement. There- serve nobody's interest. I hope the entire fore 7 India is trying its best and usjng itl Tamil leadership win demonstrate that they good offices in bringing every body to tbe can respond to statesmanship. negotiating table so tbat, we wi)) have some effective settlement which will ultimately put With these words, Sir, I conclude. an end to this dispute and this problem. 10 years of war-fare ha~ taken a heavy to)) and SHRI SHARAD DIGHS (Bombay much water has now flowed through tbe North Central) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, Jaffa Lagclon since Sri Lankan Government we are di$cussin~ a very dolicate subject began a dia10gue in June, 1985. this afternoon. The subject has become, further delicate because of tbe impending Now, another and final package deal bas talks which wood soon take pJace between been proposed by Sri Lankan Government, Ollr Prime Minister and President as we read from the new~papers. In tbis, Jayawardene when he comes to Bangalore the provinces are to be formed with certain for the purpose of SAARC Conference. autonomy having separafe subjects for their Therefore. as Mtmbers of Parliament we legislation and certain powers given as far owe a duty not only to the country, but to as severa) mattets including land dealings this issue itself tbat we should not speak in also are concerned. I would only urge this House in such a manner that any from this august House upon the Sri Lankan negotiated settlement would be damaged by Government also not to be vcry rigid as far our talks. as all these settlement ta1ks are concerned but to have a spirit of give and take with As far as this ethnic problem of Tamils an aim to put An end to this matter finaJJy is concerned, there is no other alternative and uhimntely. but to have a ne80tiated settlement between Similarly, it is nece4ilsary also to have an the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Governmetlt atmosphere in Sri Lanka itself whereby itself. Unless that is done, this issue cannot these talks are not at all spoiled or damaged. be settled io this part of Asia at all. We have been hearing and reading in the newspapers even in the month of October As has been already stated just DOW, by itself that some massacres had been going on one of the hon. Members that some other and some innocent civilians were beiDg foreign countries are already trying to fish massacred. So, this atmosphere has also in tbe troubled waters. He is merely to be cbanged and it is for the Sri Lankan mentioninl tbe reported decision of USA Government to see that that atmosphere is Department to include Sri Lanka in the list kept in such a manner that negotiated of countries whicb qualify for 84)sisfance in settlement is easJly possible. combatiol terror;sm and tbat would add a new dimensioD. I wou1d go on further and Similarly the Sri Lankan Government ,4~ t~Bt ~veQ fakist~~, Ch~n. a~d ~sntel 8~o').l~ ~Iso ~ee~ away from all t~~se fordg~ 339 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER 11. 1986 of Tami/fans in Sri Lanka 340 (Sbri Sbarad Dighe) limits are well-known. It cannot exert much intervenen who want and desire, as I said, pressure on the Tamils or on tbe Sri Lanka to fisb in the troubled water so that Sri Government beyond a point. And yet, it Lankan Government should directly has taken upon itself a task in which. by its oelotiate with these militant groups and tbe maladroit performance, it is inevitably other liberal groups by using or by making reducing the area of manoeuvre performance use of the best use of the good offices of tbe and of possible action. That is why I find Indian Government. From this point of fault with what bappened in Tamilnadu a view, I think, if this is followed, tben much little while 8g0. I am not going into tbe progress can be made. I would also, at tbe merits of the situation. I am not sayiog same time, urge upon the different groups tbat it was Centrally inspired or that it was 10 Sri Lanka to have also a spirit of some state action. All I am saying is that this wbat give aod take and not to be very rigid was not the time for letting happen what in their stand, because, as I said earlier, happened. I know tbat in Sri Lanka tbe negotiated settlement is the only way to get main problem is that there is total break- peace in tbis area and to have peace for all. down of communication between the two Therefore, even from the point of view of ethnic communities and also between the powers regarding land dealings and otber Tamil community and the Sri Lanka disputes also, they have to be solved with Government. Their relations have passed tbe spirit of give and take. They should through many phases. It has Jed to biUer- not take the rigid and firm stand tbat unless ness, distrust and suspicion and tbat i8 where tbese provinces are joined together, we shall the Government of India should bave used not have the fiettlement. There can be its good offices in a more effective manner several flolutions which can be found out in and tried to bring about mutual under- order to meet the aspirations of the Sri standing and, jf possible, reconciliation. Lankan Tamilians residing in North and 15.23 bra. East part of that country and from tbat point of view, atl the Parties concerned [SARI SOMNATH RATH in the Chair) sbould take the best advantage of the good offices which are being provided by our We all talk about domestic jurisdiction country, especially by our Prime Minister. in international law. But here we are facing I hope that with all this effort, this problem a situation in which we have to teach the will be solved soon and that we shall have law of compassion to 'the followers of the peace in this part of tbe world. great Buddha, who enunciated tbe law of compassion, tbat you cannot rule by force, SHRJ SYED SHAHABUDDIN that you cannot win people by violence, you (Kisbanganj) : In real life, sometimes we are can Dot threaten to massacre them and yet faced with the drama of the absurd in obtain their consent. It i9 impossible diplomacy as well as in common life. Here particularly in our times wben so many I am in the Opposition and I rise to express submerged identities are surfacing all over my sympathy for the Government of India. the world even in much more homogenous The Government of India, as J see it, is societie~, in much more developed countries. finding itself on the horns of dilemma. It How can you suppress the urge of the Tamil is indeed facing a difficult situation. people, to have a life of disnity, of equality. to a share in tbe running of their Govern- PROF. N.G. RANOA : Why Govern- ment ? And yet this is happening. When I ment of India alone? look at the story of Sri Lanka, I am amazed by the slow but steady retreat of tbe forces SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: It is of liberalism. We had the 1948 Constitution not of our own creation and my only which was in many ways cast in the liberal comment is that, to some extent, if I may mould but then came the 1972 Constitution say so. the Government Itself is responsible and that was a retrograde step. Essel1tia' for reducing the area of maooeuvribility. I principles enunciated in tbe 1948 Constitulion know it is under pressure on both sides, were dropped. ,For example, under Section from the Tamils and also from the Govern- 29(1). Sinbala was declared to be the ment of a friendly neighbouring country. It solenational languase, mark the word 'Sole' • • lso knows its limite. Th~ dipJOQl8tjC It bas played llavoc witll pplitics ,)sp i~ our 341 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem KARTIKA 20, J908 (SAKA) 01 Tam;i;ans in Srj Lanka 342 own country. Buddhism was declared as In fact, in many ways, they were supposed tbe State religion alajost the lesson which to be constitutionally and intellectualJ), tbe they ousbt to bave learnt from us, we are most advanced among the peoples of the Just nelt door to tbem, tbat you cannot Sub·Continent. They did not tbink about impose io a multi-reliaious society a special the impending storm OD tbe horizon, about status to a particulal' religion. Then came the gathering clouds on tbe horizon. They 1976 when Tulf raised the banner of protest continued on their path, coJonisinl tbe and committed itlJelf and the TULF Tamil areas and using armed forces and committed itself-till tben they were a flexing their mighty muscles. On whom ? The cODstitutionalJy recognised group-to the Police in Sri Lanka is 94 per cent non- idea of a separate Tamil State. President Tamil. The Army in Sri Lanka is 98 per Jayawardenc's Party in 1977 went to the cent non-Tamil. When you use Sri Lankan electorate with a recognition of Tamil Police and Sri Lankan Army in Tamil areas, grievances. And tbeir grievances are weU- tbey behave as if they are operating in a known. President Jayawardane's Party foreign country; they behave as if shooting acknowledged tbat they exist and within the against foreign people. They behave as if frame.work of Sri Lanka's law and they have to occupy tbe area. After all, Constitution a solution should be found. it is part of their own country. But they The manifesto spoke about the Tamil use roret. Force wi)) beget force. You grievances in the field of education. in the have violence on both tbe sides. Naturally, field of steady colonisation by oon-Tamils you cannot silence their urge for freedom of tbe areas inhabited by the Tamils. Of and people organise themselves. This is Dot the deliberate tucn or deliberate change in just to take revenge. Some of them may the demographic profile 01 vast regions of have a revengeful spirit also here or .. there. tbe country. They had their grievances But it is primarily to protect themselves; to about the use of Tamil in Administration. defend themselves in their bome-Iand; to They had a grievance about their place and defend their rights as citizens, as human sbare in public employment. All these were beings. recognised and tbe people were promised a solution. Nothing has happened. They We have, now, several terrorist groups. bad, in 1978, a state of emergency. Here, My friend Shri Yadav said that there are we have a unitary State with a sole language severa) Tamil Groups. Yes. there are and a State religion and that is tbe crux of several groups; they are there. In such a the problem. We are not here to speak situation, there is always a competition bid about what they have to do. But we do for a place in the love and affection of tbe feel that as enlightened citizens of the 20th community. The more violent your century, they ought to have learned an language, tbe more force you promise, the important lesson that times have gone for more you can rise in tbe esteem of the imposing a unitary State; time is past for people, who are discontented, disenchanted. imposing a sole Janguale; times ba ve passed This is a natural phenomenon. 1 am not for imposing a State Religion on a society bothered about it. What I am certain of whicb is multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and is: if objectively a decent solution which multi-religious. So, we had the beginning guarantees life, dignity, equality for the of disturbances. One day tbe fuse blows Tamil people can be found then terrorism up. When you cannot contain the discontent. will die a natural death. Then, terrorism That is inherent in the situation and they cannot sustain itself. We have to. apply all bad disturbances. Here, I do not have the the intellectual abilities that we can muster Intention to apportion blame. \\ bo is on tbis situation; in terms of advice to the responsible? Wbo cast the first stone? It is Government of Sri Lanka; in terms of the impossible in tbe perspective of history to good offices which tbe Government of India lay down blame and to say tbat the Govern- can provide. But certain things should be ment is responsible or the Tamils are absolutely clear in OUf minds. I do Dot responsible. All we can say here is that tbe think that there is any dissenting note in situation was fraugbt with dangerous this House. A solution must be found consequences for tbe future of Sri Lanka and within the frame-work of the territorial for the powers tbat be in Sri Lanka. for the integrity of Sri Lanka. In lact that is an , people who are supposed to be enliabtened. absolute condition about which we need , " : , I I 343 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER 11 J 1986 01 Tamilians in Sri Lanka 344 (Shri Syed Sbahabuddio] to use; but there bas to be real autonomy have DO quallr;s in expressing our views for tbe Tamils where they form the majority before the world public opinion, before the of their population to run their own affair., people of India and Sri Lanka and to manage their own life. Therefore, there communicating to the Government of Sri bas to be a constitutioDal restructuring Lanka. Second, we are absolutely cODvinced almost of a federal pattern. And tbe uae of and' unanimous tha t there cannot be a the forces of law and order has to be military solution. The Tamils cannot subjected to some degree of control by the impose their will on the non-Tamils, and the local authorities. Otherwise, the people Don-Tamils cannot blot out the facts of there in the areas whicb are to be granted history t cannot blot out a whole race of autonomy sball never be free of fear. On people who have been there for thousands this point, if I may say one more tbing, of years. even before the Sinhalese reached again taking from our experience, tbere bas the island. Therefore, neither of these two to be a parity and reciprocity in the use of groups can wish each otber away. Violence these two languages. I am not talking of a can provide no solution. There can, there- bi-national State or a bi-lingual State. All fore. be only a political solution. Thirdly I am saying is that, if a substantial today we are also concerned with another proportion of the people of Sri Lanka have aspect. Search for a solution wiIJ take time Tamil as their motber-tongue and if Tamil because it calls for a high level of statesman- is spoken by a vast majority of the people ship, a high level of goodwill; the trust in certain specified regions of the country. which has been destroyed has to be built; then there is no escape from giving equality tbe communication has to be re-established. and equal rights and equal atatus to Tamil What happens in the meantime? Shall as a language in administration. human rights go on being suppressed in the We have got Mr. Jayewardcne's manner tbey are being dODe? Shan people assurances, I believe, to tbe go on being killed? Sball that go on before Prime Minister. The only way I can explain our eyes ? There is the human Rights what bappened in Tamil Nadu-maybe, I Commissio::l. What have they done there? am wrong-is tbat, perhaps, we have been What bas anybody done in regard to told something in private which Mr. suppression of human rights? There is a Jayewardene bas not yet said in public. persistent pattern of suppression of human May be, he bas got a card up his sleove rights. I may remind you, Mr. Chairman, which he bas already shown to our Prime about the international law on this point. Minister. but bas oot yet laid it 00 tbe If there is a persistent pattern of violation Table. I do hope that the time will come of human rights leading to killings, that when he will do it. We have played the amounts to a genocide. What is happening trump card of good will in our band. We in Sri Lanka is of genocidal dimension. It have shown tbat we shall not accept pressure is not just a simple violation of human even from tbe Tamils and have chastised rights. Therefore, we as human beings, we them. Allrigbt, we have done that. Let as Members of Parliament, we as citizens of Mr. Jayewardene now play his strump card the world, have got to stand up and take as a statesman. We have !bown our good- notice of this, and we have got to tell them: will. Let bim show his statesmanship. We "Stop violence". There bas to be a total arc concerned because we are a neigbbourio, ceasefire. Then only there can be a search country; we are concerned because bUDdreds for peace. and thousands of people bavo taken rerule in our soil. We want them to 80 back to One thing is also clear. If tbere is to their motherland in hODour, disDity and be a political solutioD, the outlines are there equality, and for that, a suitable condition visible. There cannot be separation, has to be created. Therefore, we have aD partition and there canoot be a unitar)· inherent stake in tbe solution of tho State. There bas to be autonomy for tbe problem. Tamil-speaking area, there has to be a devolution of power, there has to be I would like to finish by making one decentralisation. call it a 'delegation' or use simple sU8gestion. There Is an old proverb whatever constitutional terminology you wisb wbich says tbat too many eook. spoil tbe 34~ Dis. on the Ethnic Probl,m KAR.tIicA 20. 1908 (SAKA) of Tamli'ans itt Sri Lan'ka 346 broth. We bad a succession of Ministers and may perbaps be construed as tbe sreat.t Ministers of state in the Foreign Office. Wo offence against our own brethren. had a succession of officials and evon extra- constitutional centres of autbority to play Sir, the Tamils constitute more tban tbeir role in tbis game. We bad a foreign 25% of tbe total population in Sri Lanka. secretary wbo fancied himself as the Indian They are mostly engaged in tbe plantation Kissinger and who became known as lb~ work in Sri Lanka. These Tamils are the flying secretary. Then, some Ministers main persons to develop Sri Lankan suddenly out of the blue are introduced into economy. If these Tamils had Dot gone tbe situation, I don't know to what end ? there and worked hard, Sri Lanka would We have, of course. the perpetually silent not have developed its economy and would Buddba at the Foreign Office. We have an not have attained the preseot position. assorted lot of Ministers and Ministers of Therefore, I would request tho Sri Lankan State who have come and gone. Please. for Government and the people of Sri Lanka to tbe sake of consistency, for the sake of accept these Tamils who are the main cause effectiveness. for the sake of objectivity for for their economic development, in the main finding a real, effecti,e and permanent stream of the country's administration by solution to this problem on our border, do giving them all tbe rigbts as tbose enjoyed not change horses in mid-stream. by the Sinhalese. If the Tamils bave been treated on equal footing with tbe Sinhalese, Therefore Sir. my bumble submission is the present burning situation would not bave to let the foreign office play a unified and arisen. Therefore. I would, witb all Sincerity, consistent role with all the diplomatic skill request the Sri Lankan Government to that tbey have acquired over the last 40 accept tbe Tamils as tbeir own countrymen years. I am sure they shall be able to get aod give them equal treatment. something for the Tamil people of Sri Lanka But the sorry state of affain is tbat the so tbat they can peace and dignity; live in Sinhalese in Sri Lanka do not like the but at tbe same time let us make sure, .et us Tamils prospering in Sri Lanka. In not close our eyes to tbe genocide tbat is tbose days when the Tamils went to Sri happening in Sri Lanka. If Sri Lanka persists Lanka for plantation work, tbe SinbaJese in its acts of genocide, I believe, it is our were not at all doing any work for the duty as a civilised State to raise this matter development of the country t but with tho in tbe of Let us first make Council Nations. sweat and hard labour tbe Tamils bad a can for the ceasefire and let the parties developed the Island. Now, tbey do not like come to the table. I think everyone of us the Tamils because they are very industrious here in this House will join in this appeal aod hard working. Therefore. I would that tbe parties must cease fires, sit down, request that tbey sbould sit together witb and negotiate a position which would find an tbe Tamils at the negotiated Table and ultimate solution. should find a solution to the ethnic problem. This is what I wanted to place before this SHRI P. JEEVARATHINAM august House. (Arakkonam): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am very much thankful to you for giving me Sir, both tbe sides must abhor violence tbis opportunity of speak!ng a few words to put an end to this grave situation. Under on the discussion on the ethnic problem tbe curcumstances; the whoJe House should of the TamiFans in Sri Lanka. In tbis welcome the appointmer,t of tbo Tamil Nadu connection, I would like to emphasise on Chief Minister as tho Coordinator between one important point tbat when tbe talks the two parties. It is a welcome feature. The between tbe Sri Lankan President, Shri Sri Lankan Government, many times. overtly Jayawardeoe and our hon. Prime Minister, and covertly, alleged that India is harbouring Sbri Rajiv Gandhi are to be held in and giving training to the Ealam Tamil Baogalore duriol next week, anything harm. extremists. Now. by appointing no less a ful said in this august House may perhaps person than tbe Chief Minister of a State to impede the peaceful negotiations that may mediate between tbe parties, India bal DOW be arrived at in the Bansalore talks. I pooh-poohed tbat allegation. I am lure the would like to draw the attention of the Sri Lankan Government will appreCiate this House to the fact that aoy such remarks position. .' ! 34' Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVBMBER 11, 1986 of Tamilians in Sri Lanka 348 (Sbri P. Jeevaratbinam] tbe father of our Nation. Mahatma Gandhi. Recently, tbe Tamil Naldu Police have In this country, tbere is DO place for tbe retovered a large quantity of arms and terrorists and extrelnists. I would thereforo ammunitions from the Tamil extremists request tbe Sri Lankan Government and the residing in Tamil Nadu. Besides the crack- Ealam Tamils to cooperate with the Govern- down many of the Tamil Liberation ment in solving this burning problem, so Organisation leaders are being kept under that in tbe forthcoming discussion tbat is to close vigil of tbe authorities and their take place in Bangalore between tbe President movements are also restricted. Sir, on 1st Jayawardene and the h'!n. Prime Minister, November 1986, there was aD incident which Shri Rajiv Gandhi, peaceful settlement is occurred in Cboolaimedu, a locality in arrived at. I am sure they will find a Madras City where the Ealam Tamil peaceful solution to this ethnic problem. I Extremists fired 60 rounds at tbe local mob. tbank you for giving me the opportunity to Tbere was some dispute between some Ealam speak on this subject. Tamils and tbe general public there. 1 would request tbe Sri Lankan Government the PROF. P.l. KURIEN (Idukki) : Sir, tbe Tamil E~tremists to ponder over why tbis Sri Lanka issue has become a very delicate kind of situation is created in Tamil Nadu. one. Our Prime Minister and the Sri Lanka Is it because the Indian people, particularly, President, Shri layawardene are going to the people of Tamil Nadu who have meet in Bangalore during the SAARC extended all help to the Sri Lankan refugees 'I meeting. We should not say anything which Tbe Tamil Nadu people have shown may complicate tbe issue further. We should sympatby to them and with their large- be very careful. heartedness they extended all tbe facilities like shelter and food to these people even at Already much has been said in this tbe cost of their own comfort. Now, tbis is House aboLlt this subject. We are not the dangerous situation that bas been created discussing this issue for the first time. We cbere. have discussed it on a number of times and a lot bas been said on this subject. The Sir, I would like to pose a question need of the bour is to br;ng about a before this august House as to bow these negotiated peaceful settlement of the issue. extremists have got tbe automatic weapons That settlement should be one which brings and ammunitions. It is not ~nown how tbey absolute peace in that region. That settle- got these automatic weapons and ammuni- ment should also allow the Tamilians to tions which are generally used by the army live in Sri Lanka with dignity, honour and personne). If these weapons are with tbero, peace. Only such a settlement can give tben they may perhaps use these against the lasting and durable peace io that area. general public in Tamil Nadu, any time. Therefore, I welcome the action taken by At the same time, it should be made the Tamil Nadu Government and the very clear and our Prime Minister bas Central Government in recovering these already made it unequivocally clear tbat we arms and ammunitions from t be extremists. do not want to dismember Srj Lanka. we do Moreover, I would request tbe Centre and not want to disintegrate Sri Lanka, but tbe State Governments to see tbat such a instead we want a settlement preserving the situation is not created in future. Wbat I territorial integrity of Sri Lanka, tbat is want to convey to the Sri Lankan Tamils is within the united Sri Lanka. tbat they must repose their confidence and faith in the Indian Government, beaded by I am sorry to say that some of my tho bon. Prime Mtnister. Shri Rajiv Gandhi. friends who spoke from tbe other side I am sure tbat with bis sagacious and wanted to support an independent homeland intelligent ap(lroach. the hoo. Primo for Tamilians. I do not think such ao Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi wbo could solve attitude would be helpful to the Tamilians the burning problem of Assam and Mizoram, in Sri Lanka. What is needed is that tbere would equally be of good help in solving the should be a united Srj Lanka and within ethnic problem of Sri Lanka. Our-hard-won that Sri Lanka. Tamilians should have freedom was not due to battle and blood- autonomy. Only sucb 8 solution win be a shed but due to DOD-violence preacbed by permanent solution and in the interest of tbo 349 DIs. on the Ethnic Problem KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) of Tamillans in Sri Lanka 350 reslon, in tbe interest of the Tamilians and baram went to Sri Lanka and bad discus- also in the interest of Sri Lanka. sions wit b Jayewa rdene and other leaders and they could formulate certain proposall. Sir, it goes to the credit of the Govern- On the basis of that further discussions were ment of lodia and especially oQ.r Prime held and I understand .bat the Sri Lankao Minister that botb the parties have now Government havo now come forward with understood the need for a political settle- certain concrete proposals. I t is understood ment. Wben the crisis began, tbe attitude tbat those proposa 18 contain certain sub- aD the part of both tbe sides. not only the stantial points which we should consider Sri Lankan Government, but also the seriously. Sbri Chidambaram himself hal militants, was not for a negotiated settlement. stated (I read it in the press) tbat these Now. both tbe sides have come round and proposals could be a good basis for talks. agree that a political settlement on ly will Sir, there is provision for creating provincial aive lasting peace. councils with Chief Ministers elected OD tbe basis of proportional representation and Sir, we know that in the genocide that power is being devolved to the provincial took place in Sri Lanka, thousand" and councils in various fields. The militants have thousands of innocent TamiJians were killed. not agreed to these proposals because what Tbe Sri Lankan military, one of the most they want is a homeland for the Tamils.. indisciplined in the world, have been com- They want to connect the Eastern and mitting atrocities on the innocent Northern regions, both of which arc Tamil people, kiUing hmocent people. raping majority areas. They feel that such an area women and what not. Because of is identifiable and geographically contiguous these atrocities. more than one and a half and therefore it is possible to link the two lakhs of Sri Lankan Tamilians have come regions. Even though tbat bas Dot been to our land as refugees. accepted by the Sri Lankan Government. A mention was made about tbe arrest of their coming forward with a proposal for some militants in Tamil Nadu. Some of provincial councils is a welcome step and it the hon. f\1embers on the other side strongly is indeed a step forward. And I feel tbat it criticized tbe arrests of some militants. It should be appreciated. It is again stated that has been made very clear that it was only a tbe militants feel tbat when powers with law and order problem and it has nothing regard to land are vested in the Central to do with the ethnic issue .. In fact, tbe Government, then there is a possibility of Government of India has nothing to do with the Sinhalese people being injected into tbe these arrests. It being a law and order Tamil majority areas, in order tbat tbe problem, the State Government has dealt Tamil majority may be converted into Tamil .. with it and they have taken the responsibility minority areas in future.] think tbat it i. also. quite a resonable and genuine fear on the part of the militants. It is not in our intereRt to link the matter of arrests with the Sri Lankan ethnic Then, regarding police and Jaw and problem. As I said, it is a Jaw and order order aspect also, the militants feel tbat problem and it is for the Tamil Nadu there should be more powers with tbe Government to solve it. If tbe TamiliaDs pJovincial councils. I do not want to 10 from Sri Lanka or tbe Tami1ians of Tamil into detai1s now. But whatever it may be. Nadu pose a Jaw and order problem, the one thing is very clear. The Sri Lankan State Government has to take action and I Government bas come forward with certain tbink, there is nothing wrong with il. concrete proposals and the militants have agreed to consider them seriously and live Sir, because of the efforts by the Govern- their reactions on that. I think they have ment of India. and our Prime Minister already given their reactions to tbe Chief particularly, some propo~aJs for solving the Minister of Tami) Nadu and our t.on. ethnic issue are already undrr discu!'~ioD. Minister n1ay already be havinlZ those details Sometime we thought that the negotiations which he may djsclo~e here. Wbafevrr they bad reatned a deadlock and Mr. Jayawardffle may be, it is a welc('me step from bot h t "e started using his army 8gajn~t TamiJ~. At sides. Therefor... , our approach should he ,b~t tipl~ opr hOD. Mi~isl~f S~ri {;bidnrp .. ~p s~~ ,~at ~~t $itu~tjpn is pot a't,ripn"ed 951 Dis. on 'he Ethnic Problem NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 of Tamiltans In Sri Lanka 352 [Prof. P.J. Kurien] took charle as Prime Minister. Tbis is the any further. We should try to persuade and fourth time tbat we are discu.siDI tbis pro- blem in t be last two years. encourage both parties to come to 8 settle- ment. We should be able to persuade Jayewardene to modify his proposals to the Sir one hon. Member Syed Shaba- extent possible, within tbe territorial integrity buddio was saying that so many Ministers of Sri Lanka. so as to meet the aspirations have been changed as far as tbe Ministry of of the Tamil p~opJe. At Jbe same time, we External Alairs is concerned. But 1 caD should also try to persuade and encourage tell tbis House that even though Ministers the militants to unite themselves to study might have beeD changed, bu t the policies these proposals and to agree to them, of the Government ba ve n ever chanaed~ provided tbey can live in honour, dignity That is the main thing which we want. The and peace in the united Sri Lankan territory. Policy of tbe Central Government and tbe It is for us to talk to both tbe sides and see State Government of Tamil Nadu have tbat they come to a settlement. Our Govern· never cbanged. We are here in order to ment and our Prime Minister are very much find out a political solution to the ethnic on tbis issue and on the 15th, when problem in Sri Lanka. I have to appre- Jayewardene will be coming to Bangalore to ciate and congratulate tbe Central Govern- attend tbe SAARC meeting, our Prime ment and tbe State Government of Tamil Minister will be meeting Jayewardene and Nadu for having taken so many steps in we al1 hope tbat a settlement which will be order to find out a political solution. of benefit not only to the Tamils but also to Sri Lanka itself will emerge out of this Sir, we bave been seeing, that lot of meeting. The entire country is hoping for efforts were and being made to unite tbo militants. There arc so many such a settlement. Tamil groups among the Tamil militants themselves. Sir, if peaceful settlement is not reached I can name tbem also. They are as follows. (I) TULF. (2) EROS, tben it is not only detrimental to the T~mils, (3) EPRLF. (4) LTTE, (5) PLOT. but also, it is not in tbe int~rest of the Sri (6) TELO and PROTEG. Lankan Government which has already gone bankrupt and which is being u~ed hy the imperialist powers as a tool to hatch their First of aU, even I had requested the own machinations in this area. Tamil militants to unite themselves. They must come as one band in order to find Therefore, it is in the interest of tbe out a solution. Then only the problem Sri Lankan Government itself, not to speak can be solved. Some of tbe militant aroups of Tamils and all countries of the region say that they want a separato Edam. And that tbis problem is solved once and for some of tbe militant groups say. they want aU in a peaceful manner by ensuring dignity, North and the Eastern provinces must be honour and peace to the Tamils there and merged. Some of the militant groups say, creating a situation so that tbe refugees' they don's want any settlement at all. How who art' in this country can go back to Sri to settle the issue? That is why we are Lonka and live in peace. taking some steps in order to find out the solution. It should not be allowed to Let us all hope for that. Let us all deteriorate further. I request bon. Members, support our Prime Minister. And the who are bere, not to strengthen tbe bands entire country is with the Prime Minister in of tbe Sri Lankan President, Shri Jaye- his efforts to bring about lasting peace in wardene. We are bere to find out a better. this region. solution for the ethnic problem there. One bon. Member, Sbri Bhattam Srirama SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gob!- Murty was all along accusing the Central cbettipala)am): Mr. Chairman. Sir, the Government and the State Government for Sri Lankan problem is not new to the baving taken some action. He had also House here. We have been discussing said that some people were put on house this problem for years togetber wben arrest. Wbat does that mean ? Supposfnl, Madam Gandhi was here and again when if any action is being taken against Tamil ~4f ~O~. frimo tdiQist~r, Rajiv GaQd~i llli1itants~ Sir_ it i$ for the wetf~re 9f tl\, 353 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem KAR TIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) 0/ Tamllio"s In Sri Lanka 354 Tamil militants. Even 3mong the Tamil wants to settle tbis issue. Our hone Prime militants, those who reside in Madras, arc Minister bas come forward to settle this sbooting each otber, they bave gone to issue. I request the hon. External tbe extent or sbooting tbe civilians thereby, Affairs Minister. Sbri Natwar Singh and one Tblrunavukarasu, who is aled about Sbri P. Chidambaram to solve '~ome of the 26 year. and a Post Graduate, was shot problems, irritating problems. About 4,500 dead by the Tamil militants. Is it correct ? persons are there for the last nl0re tban Some of tbe Tamil militants have been two years. They bave been detained un- taken under custody for offences committed lawfully. iIlegaJly in tbe prisons of Ceylon. under Sections, 302, 147 and 148. Tbese Why have they been deta ined ? There is a militants were possessing arm. They have Prevention of Terrorism Act in Ceylon. surrendered their arms. Is it not correct, Under that Act, 80 many people have been on the part of tbe Tamil Nadu Government detained; but even under tbe Act. one to ask the Tamil militants, who are cannot detain people for more than ) 8 possessing arms without any license to months, but tbey have been deta ined for surrender them to the Government ? more than two years. For what purpose? They have been detained unlawfully and 16.00 brl. Illegally without baving any trial and tbey bave not been produced before any court That is the action that wo have taken. of law for any offence. There is an Advi- It is for tbe welfare of the Tamil militants; sory Committee. That Committee advised have done something for them; it we is the government to release about 300 not if want to strengthen hands as we the prisoners. those who had been detained of Jayewardene. Even Mr. Atbulatbmudali for more than two years. But Jayewardene bas said tbat there is a sanctuary in Tamil- is not taking any action over that Commit- nadu which is not correct at all. We are tee's Report nor does he release prisoners. running training here not any camp, camp; Tbe Attorney-General is there in Sri Lanka, we are not io tbat position. He also advised tbe government to release about SOO prisoners, those who had been Actually, our bOD. Prime M\oister. detained unlawful1y without having commit- Sbri Rajiv Gandhi, bas made 80 many ted any offence at all; they were not attempts to settle thil'l issue. Every day he released. Army camps and the pol ice Is devoting time in order to settle this issue. station people have locked up so many know it fuHy well. Our boo. Chief r persons. No charges have been levelled Minister is comins bere, staying 3.. 4 days against them; no offence has been proved together just to find out a soJution for agajnst them. So, I reque~t the hon. this. So. we should oot say that just Ministers to come to the rescue of the because some action has been taken against prison~rs, who have been detained Tamil militant.. just because some militants unlawfully and iIIrga1Jy; they have to be have been arrested, that we are strengthen- released once for a11. ing the hands of Jayewardene. May I ask one question from Mr. Bhattam Srirama Murthy? There should a ceasefire. Ccasefire He may he knowing very wen. This violation is taking place often. Jayewar- problem started in 1972 when Karunanidhi dene is playing double role. On the one was the tben Chief Minister; be was tbe hand. he ~hows himself as if be is a Buddha; Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. Karuna .. on the other hand, be shows himself as if nidbi was asked by the press people recently he is another ·Zia. We must come to a with relard to tbe arrests made by the conclusion. There is a SAARC meeting Tamnnadu Police about the militants. He which is taking place on J5th of this month said, .tNo comments" . What does it at Bangalore; and as a precautionary mean? Does it not show that tbe action measures, some of the militants might taken against Tamil militants is correct? have been taken into custody only (or the Does it Dot mean that tbe so-called savior purpose of maintaining Jaw and order of Tamils is keeping quiet? He knoV9s over there. In Tamilnadu, these steps fully well that tbere is 00 unity among the have been taken. It is for tbe welfare Tamil militants; that is why be is keeping of the militants: it is for the welfare of .he quite. But ber~ _'I " 8overnmen~ W~ic~ Tamils. in Sri Lanka.. 3~S Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER 11, 1986 (If Tamilians in Sri Lanka 3.56 16.M bt•• some peop10, but are essential for tbo (SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM smooth running of the administration. If we start condemning the steps takeo on tbe in the Chair] basis that some people are close to us and (Tran.Jlatlo1l) otbers ar,e not, then it would Dot yield any results. A Government cannot SHRI NARBSH CHANDRA function properly if it is swayed by CHATURVEDI (Kanpur) : Mr. Chairman, emotions, it must take hard facts into Sir, the issue which is being discDssed in account. India and Sri Lanka bave not tbe House is very sensitive and crucial for built up a good relationship merely bec:ause our country. However, I {eel that Sbri of the Tamil people residins there; if we Bbattam Sl'irama Murty, who has raised fee] emotionally attached to the tbe issue bas not placed it in the rigbt Tamils, tben we should feol equally close pCl'IpectiY"'. He his presented his to the Sinhalese as we share tbe same point as if the relation between Sbri Rajiv religion, culture, philosophy heritaae, Gandhi and the Sri Lanka Government historical background and this relationship was not the relation between two countries is thousands of years old. We afe entitled but between two colonies. He, has to intervene in tbe internal matters of other forgotten that Sri Lanka is our neigbboLAring countries only to the extent it iq necessary country. India is a great country ~nd in for the protection of human rights. Our spite of its size. its Oovernment as a Iso the friend, Shri Syed Sbahabuddin baa Prime Minister want, as a matter of policy. mentioned several such points in the form that every nation in tb:9 world, howsoever of sugar coated piUs in his speech which small it mlY be, mllst exist with full dignity can lead to disintegration. Is there any and honour and be free to pursue its own country in this world where minority policies aDd to defend itself. Wherever the communities do not exists; but if tbe issue of human rights has been raised, minorities begin to as§ert themselves by India baa always come forward to support ignoring the majority community tben it. During the struggle betw~en the Tamils which country can remain integrated? and tbe Sinhalese in Sri Lanka, India's If we accept this principle for country witb position was made clear from the very a population of 750 mi11ion and propagate outset. But so far as the treatment of the tbe same for Sri Lanka, then it would lead Tamils by Sri Lankan Government is to anarchy. In India itself at least 150 concerned, there are two facets to it. On new nations will come into existence. Leavo the one hand, the Sri Lankan Government aside India, there is no other country in is 8tro~gly criticised for its t1 eatment of the world, be it USSR, USA, China, tbe Tamils and on the other hand, tbere Britain or France, where minority are certain Tamil factions which indulge communities do not exist and where in terrori~m and other objectionable multiple linguistic groups, religions, regions, activities and must be equally condemned. receq and castes do not exist. If We accept Today, out of them. nearly 1)50,000 people all that he has !laid then nowhere in the are living as refugees in our small State world will there be uoity any more, aDd of Tamil Nadu. If they create law and the concept of nationalism win cease to order problems over there, and if the bold any meaning. Sbri Lanka is a small Government of Tamil Nadu takes the country. If the Tami1s want a separate needed measures against them, then we State comprisiol laffna and other 4-' should not censure but praise the Govern- di~tricts where they are in majority, then ment for it because their action was we cannot support it. But everyone would desirable and thereby they upheld tbe agree to tbe suggestion that tbe Tamils in national honour. I do not think it is Sri Lanka should be treated at par with tbe proper to censure or criticise the Chief Sinhalese and should enjoy equal rigbts- Minister of Tamil Nadu for it. because be whether economic, social or administra- head! the Government of an Indian State. tive-equal statuI in the development of If certain terrorist groups indulge in any Sri Lanka and should receive equal undesirable or anti-national activities, tbe fa'cilities. In this connection, whatever State Government will have to take sucb assistance could be rondered by tbe Indian ",ps which tllo\lfb Play opt bo liked by (lovorqmcotv i. ~cinJ roaullrly 8vion by our ~51 Dis. ()n the Ethnic Problem kARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA.) of Tamilia"s in Sri Lanka 35' hOD. Primo Minister. On tbe onc band, their accusations do Dot even ~ake any aeDle. we expect our Prime Minister to intervene How can the TamiJ problem be linked with and be did so, and be not only sent his SAAR C. If (be Tamil Nadu Government emissaries to Sri Lanka but also. he bad takes cerfain steps alainst tbo Tamil talks witb President Jayewardene, and refugees, because they have created Jaw and wbenever any argument did not appeal to order problems, how can tbe SAARC -be him. bo stepped aside. Nowt if our Prime linked with it? They are the citizens of Minister dhcusses some issue with Sri Lanka and if steps are taken against Pree.ident Jayewardene wherein some them for creat jng law aod order problema proposals are advanced, and if after tbere, it is surprising bow it can be discussion on these proposaJs they are reject- discussed in our Parliament. They are not ed by TULF and some other terrorist Indian citizens, and we can discuss about organisations, then it becomes clear that them, from tbe point of view of human tbere are extremist elements in tbe orga- rigbts, anywbere in the world, but if we nisation, because of whom those proposals di&cu~s their right3 in this House then it were rejected. I wlnt to ask you as to how will not be justified. After all, our Prime can we arrive at an agreement witb such Minister is not attending a SAARC an organisation. If you want the Indian meeting for the first time, nor is be going Prime Minister to mediate and if Shri to have talks with (,resident Jayewardene Jayewardeuc accepts certain suggestioDs of for the first time; hI.:: has been trying to find our Prime Minister as a gesture of goodwill, a solution to this problems for years. He tben sbould not tbe extermist and terrorist not only involved many of the Sri Lankan elements of tbe Tamils be compelled to leadcls in it, but also leaders of other accept that agreement? If the Tamil nations, which arc connected with them in extremist do not heed the advice of our some way, and he had several rounds of Prime Minister, bow can they expect talks with them and made an honest effort President Jayewardene to listen to him. to persuade the Sri Lankan Government to I want to make it clear to those friends the extent possible. But now sometime who advocate the cause of Tamil extermists in certain qual'len suggestions are made of Sri Lanka tbat the efforts of tbe Indian that India should send its troops to Sri Prime Minister will plove to be etf(!ctivc Lanka ... would it be proper for India to only when tbe Tamils accept the proposals take such a step or should tbe Prime to which the Government of Sri Lanka is Minister have mentioned it ? It is Dot persuaded to agree to. Or tbey may proper to giv~ such sUisestion. authorise the Prime Minister tbat whatever aareement is reacbed by bim it win not be Last time. while speaking on SAARC. opposed by any group. If this is done, I had told tbem to make judiciOUS then we can undarstand. How can two comments in their speecbes. We are contrary things work? Today you say always saying that Sri Lanka is aD one tbing, tomorrow you reject it; indepen(!ent country and a sovereign state. similarly. if today one group advances a Under such circumstam.·es, bow caD one proposal and the other group rejects it, country attack another and how can it be then under such circumstances, how can we proper when it is contrary to our (ofet,n come to an understanding? No country policy fundament~1Jy ? But these peopJe seem can real1y afford to spoil its relationsbip to forget that. with its neighbour. In my opinion no problem can be solved if India or any I do not consider it an ethnic problem other cou.Dtry for tbat matter, become a although the newspapers are portraying it al party to a dispute with its neigbbours. Then such, but I do not accept it. The Tamil aoy attempt to link the problem witb problem is purely a Sci Lankan Dotional SAARC will be prejudicial to national problem. Many people here have tried to Interest. It is very surprisin& that whenever poison tbe atmosphere by calling it an one of _our friends from tbe opposition ethnic problem. Our friend Shri Syed speaks, he does not miss any opportunity Sbahabuddin is also of the same opinion. of criticising tbe Prime Minister. tn fact, I do Dot agree with him. It is comments ahey are always in search of an occasion to of such nature which resulted in the attaok the Prime Minister and at times partition of India and Pakistan. We have , \ I , .. , 3S9 Dis. on the Ethnic Probltm NOVBMBEl II, 1986 0/ Tami/fans in Sri Lanka 3~ (Shri Narcsb Cbandra Chaturvedil India or tbey may be TamiUanl already experienced how a venemoUl from Sri Lanka. Actually. it Is a "ar 10'01 atmosphere call be created in the name or on 88aiost the people whoso langualo I, minority. Pakistan and India were dcvidcd Tamil. It is a war, declared or undeclared. on tbis basis only. In those days also, it was EYen the Air Force is beiDa used to said tbat tbe country must be partitioned to bombard tbe villages. So. it is a matter of protect tbe minority community. Tbe concern. But I would Uke to draw tbe result was tbe partition of the country and attention of tbe entire House and also of now tbe situation is that there is neitber the Government as to what are tbe forccs peace in Pdkistan nor in India. Today, the tbat are operating in Sri Lanka. Is it Dot struggle is taking new turns. a fact tbat from Israel to Pakistan, from USA to UK, all these forces are converaiOI The Soviet Union is one nation, in in Sri Lanka and the game is Dot only to spite of tbe fact that there are 23 languages annihilate the Tamils but also to deltabilisc aDd 23 provinces in it and yet no tension my country, India, to destabilise its uDity is visible tbere unlike our country. alld integrity? Who does Dot know tbat tbe Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would, there- entire game of U.S. imperialism is to turn fore, submit to tbe House, tbrouab IDdiaD Ocean into an zone of war, not into you, that such comments and the protection a zone of peace? This game of attack on which is beiDg given to tbe anti-national the Tamil people in Sri Lanka is a part of elements cannot be tolerated. that entire game. This is a part of tbo global game of U.S. imperialism and tbis Our Indian Government follows a could not be forgotton by tbe Government definite policy. I remember very well, that and this should be taken note of by tbe once late Pt. lawabarlal Nehru wbile Government. speaking on tbe foreign policy of tbe country had stated -wherever any section Our Communist Party in Sri Lanka bas of humanity is subjected to atrocities or given a statement. It bas pointed out on injustice, this country wi II come forward many OCcasSioDS- and intervene but we sball never do anything which may affect tbe unity, "The USA is trying to destabilise inte8rityand goodwill of any nation and India counting on internal subversive we shall never be aggressors. HOD. Sbri separatist elements on a spread of Rajiv Gandhi is still following the same religious, communal discard and on policy. And for this reason he bas tbe support fanning hostility for New Delhi in of tbe whole country and its people. neilbbouring State. Sri Lanka is Dot by-passing by tbis geopolitical game Witb these words, while supportios bim, led by the U.S. terrorists who want to I oppose tbe views expressed by Sbri turn the Indian ocean into a sphere of Bhattam Srirama Murty. U.S. vita) interests." (English) Tbis tbing cannot be forgotten. This is tbe main thinl, That cannot be SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midna- forgotten by our leaders and by our country. pore) : Sir, actually tbe situation obtaining What we say. what is needed is a peacefu1 in Sri Lanka is a matter of grave concern solution. Only by declaration tbat we waot for tbe cmtire nation. The matter concerns peaceful solution, we are not loioa to let not only tbose Tamil militants or that Tamil it. Despite all our atv:mpts we bave secured population which is faciDS annihilation' in almost Dotbina. Our Government knows Sri Lanka, but actually it is a matter of tbis just 88 tbe U.K. and U.S.A. in the concern for the entire nation. mattcr of South Africa. Despite many attempts tbe same of U.S. is continuing in Today in Sri Lanka we find several the Middle Bast. What we want is-that tbe forces operating. It is not only tbe lovern- Government of India whose leader is Sbri ment of Jayewardene wbich is baving Rajiv Gandbi move more seriously to aatber gcuocide on our Tamilian brothers whoso- world opinion in favour of our proposal. ever tbey may be, they may be from that ooly peaceful s01ution arouod tbe tablt jSi iJls. on the Ethnic Problem kARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) oi rami/tans in Sri Lanka 3~~ is tbe only WI, out of tho presont crisis in economy. It is also a problem for tbe Sri Lanka. Neither our party nor tbo economy of Sri Lanka. Sri Laaka's economy Government wants, I do not tbink anybody is Dot a very -sound economy. Sri Lanka here wants Cyprus like situation in Sri is a smtlll country. To combat tbe lo-called Lanka. No Cypressisation of Sri Lanka is, terrorism in Sri Lanka. more money is spent. allowed. That is very clear. It has been The Sri Lankan Government spends nearly made clear by all parties and aU groups in Rs. 2 crores every day to combat tbe 80- Parliament. t calJed terrorism. Naturally. Sri Lanka's economy is going to dogs and Sri Lanka ia A section of Tamil militants want a depending more and more 00 imperialist separate State in Sri Lanka. It should be countries. The more these things continue. made very clear that we cannot support this tbe more tbey will be depending Oil demand. We can never be a party to it. American economy or British economy or foreign economy. That should be taken In our country a section of sikh note of. In one way we also suffer. Not militants are fighting for a homeland for only our country is keeping several thousand sikhs. We oppose it in principle. In tbis refugees, I do not know bow many lakhs are form we say it shall never come. Gorkha there 1 think two lakbs and more of people land will Dever tome. Puujab shall remain will be staying in India. So, the Indian part of India. economy suffers. Coastal fishermen on our side are Indians. They cannot go to tbe There arc important demands of the sea for fishing. No sooner tbey 80 tbaD people of Tamil origin in Sri Lanka. the Sri Lankan gunboats fire at tbem. I Whether be tbey from India or Ceylon we fail to understand tbat if these Sri Lankan want to make it clear thac this Government gunboats can attack. our fishermen on tbe and Parliament shall never be a party to Indian waters, why not we people take steps divide Sri Lanka to bring it like a condition to protect our Indian fishermen from beinl in Cyprus. It is a fact that a solution of attacked by Sri Lankltn Navy? Why can't militants have given a call for homeland, a we make use of our forces to combat them ., separate State. We do not support that. At least this thing can be dono. I am not But it should be understood that such a man who will say. 'Come on, march and demands have come after many years of advance to Sri Lanka'. That is out of struggle and frustration. Many of the question. But how is it that our Indian geauine demands have been stressed. They fishermen are not allowed to fish in Indian are treated as a second class citizens in Sri water and we are unable to give protection Lanka. Tamil people have done a lot for to tbem ? I think the Government will wake bringing the economy of Ceylone up, for the up to this situation and do tbe needful. development of Ceylone. To-day they feel tbat tbey are second class citizens. Their Sir. tbere are a large number of Indian culture is neglected. Tbey are removed Tamils in Sri Lanka. What about tbom? from service. They are put in jails. Out Some people say tbat it is an internal of frustration demand for separate problem of Sri Lanka. Of course. it is an homeland are coming though we internal problem of Sri Lanka. But then I do not support these. But it should be want to know one thing. Tbere are many clearly understood that we are not with Indians who are there working as clerks, them. But then, tbis effects us directly. It doctors, businessmen and so OD. Do you not only effects Tamil population and know how tbey are being treated 1 So. air. CeylODe but it etrecrs India also. That their interest should be safeguarded. I shou1d be taken not of. Thousands and again believe that the onJy solution lies in thousands of refugees have come to India. talks, talks and talks. Both sides must come Tbey have taken shelter. It is a m~tter of to a compromise. Definitely there are some regret that Government of India or the elements in Sri Lanka, tbere are parties in Sri Oovrrnment of Tamilnadu have resently Lanka. wbo do not want any compromi8e. arrested them, di~armed tbem. I do not There is terrific Sinhalese cbauvinism in Sri know what for? But there nre thousands Lanka today. That Sinhalese national and thousands of refugees staying on the chauvinism is ISBinst the interests of not Indian loil. I t is a problem f~r our only tbe Tamils. but of Sri Lanka it~elf. ~63 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER. 11. 1986 . oj Tamilians in Sri Lanka 36.1 [Sbri Narayan Cboubey} The vory fact that thousands of Tamils Tbls mUlt be: very clear. We do not support wbo are citizens of Sri Lanka-may be their demand for an independent homeland. Tamils by ethnic origin, but for thousand, I request the Government of India to play of years have been Jiving in Sri Lanka- tbeir role as tbey have been playing their who are people, who c~ll themselves citi- roJe 00 earlier occasions. I hope Mr. zens of Sri Lanka have been killed not Jayawarden" will come to his senses. I because tbey indulged in violence. They hope Mr. Jayawardene would not be have been killed because it "NaS their influonced only by their natioDalistic aDd misfortune to have he-.;n born to Tamil chauvinistic tendencies and look up to the parents, wbo are.ci(Jl~US of Sri Lanka and situation that is actually obtaining there. spoke the Tamil language. That was Whether tbey tikI! or di:;like, lhe(~ are thdr misfortune and thclcforct they were Tamils there. They are civilized people, kiJIeJ. In fact, when my friend, Syed they are educated peopl tbat if he does not come for a political are a few forces which are talklnl of a settlement aod thinks that a military separate State of Selam but in reality we settlement is an answer, the Tamil peopJe are all aware tbat tbe Tamil people of Sri of Sri Lanka will not tolerate it. They Lanka are not thinking of Eelam as tbe only will figbt.' Military solution in alternatived. Their voice bas been unified DO solution. Unfortunately, I would in saying that ~1I they want is the right to say that Jayewardene Government in live in dignity, in an area within Sri Sri Lanka does not speak in one unified Lanka within tbe unitary set up, voice. We notice that while Shri Jayewar- with dignity. That is all tbat dene talks in a placating tone, his Minister they ask. A small homeland is what tbey for Internal Security in his own Government, seek. All of us who belona to various speaks in rabid, violent tones. He States in the Union of India, donet we also threatens and inli01idates and goes ask for a homeJand of oues? That violent and terrorises. Are these young is aU that they have done. They are boys who have been forced to leave not being given even that. They have been college and school, whose mothers told "No, you consist of Tamils and tbo have been raped and whose sisters have Muslim Tamils." This is the new language. been k iI1ed, terrorists Or are those who They segrega te the Tamils in Sri Lanka were military uniform and massacre thou- in the name of religion and tbey divido sands of Tamils? Who are the terrorists? them; divide their hopes and aspirations. Is it not the concept of State terrorism? This shows their calibre. Thousands of One blames these young boys who come graduates. millions of talented have youngt- out of their homc1and out of feair. driven ters been sacrificed. away by an army and by (\ State which hates them for their birth, not for their Mr. Chairman, Sir, they do Dot just ideology. This is the situation. It is not deserve sympathy. Thry deserve tbe support a matter which cane be looked at as an of this House. Their demands must be internal matter of Sri Lanka. Genocide has met. The situation;s critical all around taken placo, hnman rights qu~sti()ns have India. The imperialistic forces, it is a fact, arisen, the matter is grave. Today one have planned to encircle India-whether can say categorically that even though the you talk of Diego Garcia, whether you Pres;dent of Sri Lanka goes on record more talk of Pakistan. And now tbey talk of than once to say that no Tamman will be a base in Sri Lanka. But let me say tbis. killed, and specifically he says this many a If Mr. Jayewardene thinks that with the time. But his own forces under his con .. suppnrt of the imperialistic forces, be can trol daily kill thousands of innocent Tamils, find a military solution to this problem, be from helicopters, and strafing of villages is making fool of himself. He is under ao takes place. Thout;'8nds of people die in illusion. Not only will he no longer remain their huts. They have no connection with President, not only will these highly revi .. the mi1itant~, no connection with any from sionist. fanatic communal elements take of violcne. All they want is to live peace· charge of his Stale dir~ctly. but Lanka also fuBy. While this goes on Qne hand, talks will face a turmoil which would it never have take place on the other. The bread is dreamt of. offered in small crumbs, little by little. Bven slices are not served to the negotiating The 8olution is, in fact, a negotiated table. 10 the first stage, an offer made. solution within, of course, tbe unitary It was f(ljected outright. I understand structure, within of course, the Sri Lankan that tbe present proposals have some sort Constitution. We are not claiming to of meaningful ability to start a dialogue. advise Sri Lanka to change its poJitical But we are all aware that even a moderate structure. It is not so. We are saying Jet organis:ltion like the TuU, one cannot caJ1 tbem change it to the extent they find con- the TULF militant under any clrcumsranC~t venient. But all we ~ay is: give tbis Jarge they are wt"ll into the ran~e of conservative ethnic population an honourable homc·Jand, areoa of politics, even that moderate the right to rule wilhio their Hmits, within organisation bas rejected the proposals devolution of powers. We do not ask for placed. What bad the militants done '1 a sovereign State. We d(l not demand that. Tbe, Ilavo a180 rejected it. Yes, thero No one in tbis "OU&!O f2al murmured OQ '67 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER II, 1986 of Tamilians In Sri Lanka 368 (Sbri P. R.. Kumaramanaalam) involvod in Bndins a solution; in the nelO- that. But there is a small problem tbat tiaHons their good offices have been of use. has arisen recently. The problem is not But in the situation of today, it is Dot new. For the last, two or three years we sufficient to ju~t push along. Critical havo seen tbat the inter se quarrels among situations have arisen not only tn Sri Lanka tbe young militant/sroups have caused but also in our country. We know. tbe many a law and order situation in our own regional forces will try to e"pluit the present land. But unfortunately, if I may go on situation. It is time that Mr. Jayewardenc record to say. there arc certain regional is made to understand tbat India can DO forces which do not want unity of these longer just be a mediator, can no longer forces: they do not want young militants be just a country watching and hoping. We come and unite. They are interested in will have to take active interest to solve this keepiog tbem divided because they think problem. 'Active interest' does not mean tbe Sri Lankan issue-the regional forces sending our military. India bas today a in Tamil Nadu think-is an issue within can situation in the world. in the international be encasbed upon for pur?oses of election. politics, where it bas the diplomatic ability, That is why, in this House. I appeal to all force aod capability to ensure tbat, to lucb the politieal parties to help in uniting these a serious international problem, a solution boys so that these young militants could is found. Let us not forget-even thougb live up tbelr inter se quarrels and live in my friend, Mr. Narayan Cboubey, ridi- peace and think of their borne 1and; tbeir culed our South African effort-that tbe problem of achieving a solution there. But, United States of America, one of tho unfortunately, tbe instance of tbe first world forces, has followed our line and November is not the first incidents. There they have imposed limited sanctions, Let have been incidents after incidents. us not forget that •.. I am constrained to say that I have a criticism. The action AN HON. MEMBER: They were that bas been taken now, need not have forced to. been taken. If really right at the outset when tbe first inter se quarrel took place SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM : between these groups, stern action was Yes. they were forced to. That is even a take~ to resolve tbe problem, if it was made bigger victory that the people of that clear to the young militants that violation country did. Let us not forget that: we of law and order would not be toJerated, it were not approaching the Administration, would have beeD much better. But, however, we were approaching the people. And tbo I would say "better late than never." I same could be done here. May I take this only want to say on the floor of this House opportunity to request the Government, the that the young militants must understand External Affairs Minister, Shri Natwar that the people of Tamil Nadu, the people Singh, who has the dip lornatic experience of this country, sympathise with their cause. and abilities, that it is tiIne, that just like in We 8Uppclft them. We wish them the best. the case of Bangaladesh we went round the We hope tbat they wHi go back to their land world to develop opinion, we should go to with dignity. But if they create law and the world and tell the political powers that order situation and disturb the peace and are there in the world and the people of tranquilitv of our nation. it is impossible the world that today the problem in Sri for any Government to keep quiet-· Lanka is no longer aD internal problem of especially a State Government like Tamil Sri Lanka, it is a problem that bas to be Nadu. solved and tbat must be ~olved by a negotiated settlement. Let an the forces Mr. Chairman. Sir, may I take this who are sneakingly giving assistance to the opportunity to appeal to not only the Sri Lankan Government in its bid of young mi1it8nt~. to not only all the political terrorism against the Tamils withdraw parties and regional forces, but also to the thcir support. The solution will be found. Government of Tamil Nadu that what is to It is that tactic, tbe underhand support, he impressed upon is an early solution to tbat is really causing the problem to be this problem. I uDderstand quite well that alive. It is the hope that Mr. Jayewardollo tbo Governmcnt of Tamil N~du has beep llas $ot tl1.U the im~eriaU8t for~1 Will 369 Dis. on the Ethnic Prohlem KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) 01 Tamillans In Sri Lanka 370 ultimately back him. Let that hope be of tbe State Government. I think it is witbdrawn. Let Mr. Jayewardene be toJd by time for me to appeal to the State Govern- the imperialist forces: "No, our help will ment that mere cat and mouse game will Dot be available". Let that telling come. not help, genuine assistance is required. The support of the people of those countries (Interruptions) They have to come forward is very clear. They are for peace of and participate in the efforts. It is no use mankind. their thinking tbat their political leverage by encouraging any single group of political May I just say that today a situation young militants would support the cause. has arisen \\here the Buddhist clergy They should support in the search for a dominance in the polity of Sri Lanka is solution. increasing day by day ? It is not a matter of joke to see these regional, fanatic, and SHRI BALWANT SINOH RAMOO. religious forces raising their ugly head. We WALIA (Sangrur) : Mr. Chairman Sir, have also had a problem at borne, but we the House bas just heard just valuable are seeing another problem which is religious' suggestions of my worthy frieds Cbaubeji in a comp1etely differont nature. There, tbe and Kumaramngalam Saheb. religion does not speaks of war, the religion speaks of compassion and tbe ty.pe Sir, this country fs faced with hard of compassion that is shown from realities regarding the occurances in tbe the barrel of gun by the Sri Lankan army, neighbouring country. There, only 24% and striking from helicopters, is a sbame. people of the total population are It is time that a solution is found. May I Tamilians-both Hindus and Muslims. take t.his opportunity to appeal to my It is also a hard reality that even the beloved leader, the Prime Minister, tbat Sinhalese came afferwards and these it is time that be put his foot down and Tamilians--both Hindus and MusJims- impressed upon Mr. Jayewardene that India were the real inhabitants of that will no longer remain just 8 mediator, India island. can be a very powerful diplomatic force. We can go around the world and develop Now the situat~on is that the share of world opinion. just like we have done in the Tamilians in the army is 0 5% in public the case of South Africa, on Sri Lanka sector it is 1%; in employment it is 3% and also if they continue with their ceaseless investment in the five year plans over the violence against Tamils. An echo is there predominantly Tamil areas is only 5%. So. in this House for ceasefire. No talks can be there is gross economic discrimination genuine, no negotiations can from the against tbe Tamilians in that country. heart, no hand would be extended for a Rettlement if there is really no ceasefire. Unlike India, Sri Lanka has no federal Until the forces in Sri Lanka be10nging to system. The whole of Sri Lanka is one the Sri Lankan Government do not silence country run by the Central Government, their guns, no rea) settlement is possible. denying all the authority, power and riget That is the truth of the situation. to the regional aspirations. Adding to if, there is a genocide of TamiJians. We are It is immediate and necessary tbat facing a situation in which when we talk of Sri Lanka directs its forces, jf necessary at the ethnic problem of Tumilians In Sri the threat of penal punishment, court Lanka, we talk of state terrorism and state martials, not to fire upon a single Tamil hatred towards Tamilians in that country, under any circumstances. That is the only our neighbouring island. So, Sir, I fee1 way peace can he brought to that island. when genocide is going on and the Sri the only way a political solution can be Lankan military is indiscriminately kiIJing found there. Unless there is peaceful not only the militants but also moderates atomsphere. there can be no political solu- and innocent people we should take certain tion possible-. effective steps. I do not ~ay we should May I end by just saying that I am intervene hut accordin~ to U.N. Reso1ution reasonably confident that my leader would of 1948 which gives the riBht to the people be able to find a I'olution? But, however, to intervene when genocide is ~oijng on we ~e requir~s t~~ $en~jne he~p and ~ssistance s~ould t~~e effe~tive steps. The situatiol1 311 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBE.R II, 1986 of Tamilians in Sri Lanka ~12 (Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia) hardsbips. I do not say tbat you should is becoming very very serious. On the immediately intervene or send military. but one bad genocide is going on and on the we hove many more options to support other hand certain militant persons bave those people. acted on the land of India. In Tamil Nadu one person was killed and certain persons 17.00 hr•• were injured. Without loing into tbe detans as to what was done and what With tbese few words, I conclude. should be done I will through this House and through you, Sir, appeal to those [TranI/at/on] friends who are fighting ·fot their rights in DR. O.S. RAJHANS (Jbanjbarpur): tbat country and who are faciag State Mr. Chairman, Sir. many views have been terrorism and State hatred in Sri Lanka expressed about the Tamil problem in Sri not to re~ort to aoy such action which is Lanka and I do Dot want to repeat tbem. not in accordance with the policies and I want to draw your attention only towards attitudes of the Government of India or two or three important iSlucs. We wanted to peoplc of thi~ country- We completely discuss tbe Sri Lanka problem durini the believe in non-violence and peacefnl means last session a]so but it could not be done to achieve our goals. 1 know that they because our negotiations with tbe Govern- are locked in a seriou'J situa'tion in that ment of Sri Lanka were at a very crucial country but I will appeal to those friends stage. Even now tbis problem is passiol not to use our land to settle their score in tbough a critical period. This prob1em bas their own way. I 811;0 will urge upon the two facets, Tbe first is whether tbe State Government and the Central Govern .. Government of Tamil Nadu should have ment to handle the situation very cautiously harassed the Tamil militants and tbe second and in a manner that it should not be is when will tbe atrocities being perpetrated counter-productive. I also appeal to tbe against Tamils in Sri Lanka be stooped. Government and Shri Natwar Singh ji who I do not want to go into the question win be going to Bangalore to attend the whether tbe action taken by tbe Government SAARC meeting. of Tamil Nadu had tbe concurrence of tbe Central Government but in my opinion the Sir, we are worried and concerned by action was right. The reason being that two ways. First we are concerned that the the situation had become intolerable. Tamilians are being killed and secondly There was infigbting among tbe Tamil we are rurther concerned that China, US~, militants and killings were taking place. Israel, South Africa, Pakistan and U,K. I am saying all this on the basis of my are accumulating arms and putting their feet first hand information. The Tamil and strengthening theIr interests and militant leader who is directing this institutions in Sri Lanka. So, Sir, I wiU movement from outside, is one of my humbly request the Government of India friends and now·a-days be is fasting at to take it up seriously with Shri Jayawardene Rajghat. I do not think it proper to name during his visit to attend the SAARC him beret He broke down when be told meeting at Bangalore. We should tell MT. me that some such elements had infiltrated Jayawardene in clear words that the reason into the movement who wanted to scuttle it of our not interfering ig not because we and that they were kiUiog each otber. ares paralysed but because we have decided One person was killed and many injured in not to do so. We have the capacity. We the clash that took place between them in have been the champions and we are the Madras on lst November. Tben wbat is champions of keeping up the rights and wrong if some persons were disarmed and aspirations of the people. We bav.e fouaht some were arrested in this situation. One for human rights. From the angle of more facet of tbis problem is that earlier fighting for human rights and supporting Sri Lanka used to blame us for runniDI tbe people who are facing genocide, our training camps for these militants in India country shou1d keep up it$ old traditions but now tbe whole world knows the truth and come to the belp of the people of that there are no such camps in India. Tamil orf,iQ w~o ~re f~ciD' a lo~ 9f flere ~Il tlle tllinp have becn bandied hll 373 bis. on tize Ethnic Problem KARTlkA 20, 1908 (SAKA) 01 Tamiiians in' Sri Lanka 374 ri,bt way_ Had tbere been any training thing is that tbe militants have agreed to camp In india, in tbat event we would not take part in negotiations. Tbe statement bave arrosted them. The whole WOf Jd bas about Sri Lanka problem made by tbe welcomed our stand. Thero is anotber HOD. Prime Minister in AustraUa was quito aspect of this problem. Pakistan bad long pertinent. We sball have to look into tbe been complaining of Indian he1p to Miss practical aspect of tbis problem. The Benazir Bbulto but DOW tbe whole world militants have made a demand that as tbe knows that there is nothing like tbat. The Tamils are in majority in the north and press of this country bas approved tbe the east, this area may be granted disarming of the Tamil militants but this independence. We do not support any step does not Jessen the gravity of the such demand for independence but at tbe problem. However, we cannot overlook same time we do not approve of tbe tbe atrocities being inflicted on the killing of innocent persons. The newspapers Tamils. as well as people say tbat the nortb aod tbe east are not contiguous area al there Amnesty International which is an is a Sinbalese populated area between tbe impartial institution has said io no uncertain two provinces. The experts on this issue terms that wbat is happening in Sri Lanka know it very well. What I want to is genocide and is no way less than what say is that tbere should be devolution of Hitler bad done. The tale of the atrocities power. They have to remain witbin Sri being perpetrated there has been repeated Lanka and lhc:y should be granted many a time here. The houses of the autonomy so that they are free to cboose innocent "eople are destroyed by dropping their own course of action. 10 the present bombs and innocent Tamils are made to times no race can be suppressed by the use dand in a line and then shot dead. This of force. There ca nnot be a military bas not happened in any civilised society soluation of the Sri Lanka problem. I and nor will it ever happen. How the have studied tbe Sri Lanka problem from whole world is a mute specattor to this the very start. They are blowiog bot and atrocity? Is it not our moral duty cold in the same breath. Sometimes Sbri to raise our voice against these atro- Jayewardene declares that the problem bas cities? been solvc:d and then under some preasure he declares his displeasure with the stand 17.06 hra. taken by the militants. It becomes the moral duty of India to find some practical {MR, DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] so]ution of tbis problem. The most important' thiog is that during tbe last Sir, I want to point out a very intersting discussion on Tamil problem in tl"e House thinl. During the last SAARC conference, we had estimated tbe number of Tamil Shri Jayawardene bad made a meaningful refugees to be 80,000 but now this number remark which tbe people have forgotten. has increased to about 2 Jakhs. This He had said that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka number of Tamilians continues to increase. bad migrated from Bihar and Bengal. OUf country harself is a poor nation and He wanted to drive home the point that for how Jong can we sustain such a large the Tamils tbere are from Tamil Nadu. number of refugees. Some solution has So he wanted to single out some provinces. got to be found. It is an irony tbat the Sinhalese who came from Bibar are perpetrating atrocities there. Now the problem is not so simple 8S it AU this sbould not happen there. The seems. The American base in Sri Lanka Sinhalese there should be prevented from has a1most been established. Sri Lanka perpetrating atrocities. bas granted permission for the setting up or .. the Voice of America~ It will not be Now Sbri Jayewardene will attend tbe surprising if in near future some American ensuring SAARC conference and our hopes base is established there. A nexus bas been are hinged on the talkA between the Prime established between Sri Lanka, America Minister. Shrl Rajiv Gandbi and Sbri and pakistan. This nexus is going to Jayewardene. The issue is somewhat trouble us sooner or later. Tbe problem is lettiol resolved and the most important not so simple as we consider it. So, we • • l, ' ' ~7S Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBER II, 1986 0/ Tamilians I" Sri Lanka 376 [Dr. G. S. Rajhans1 think tbe Tamils have never created any shan welcome Shri Jayewardene in our impediment in it. They bave never country but shall tell him firmly that we demanded a separate State. They are an are not going to tolerate tbe continuance of integral part of tbat country. We never tbe present situation. The wbole country want that Sri Lanka should be partitioned supports the people of Sri Lanka and tbe but the Tamils are being deprived of their atrocities on the Tamils will Dot be rigbts and privileges. We are aware that tolerated. in the pre .. independence days, in Sri Lanka, Tamil community was highJy educated and SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI progressive in every respect but the {Srioagar) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I Sinbalese were jealous of them and since would like to say this much about the then there have been continuous efforts to Tamils of Sri Lanka that this issue has for crush them and liquidate them. I feel that long been worrying us. I think tbat inside Tamils have been forced to take up arms tbis H 'Juse as well as outside, our public, because there was no other way to survive the intellectuaJs and politicians have evinced the genocide. To save ltJeir identity, their life great interest in this issue. Tbis issue is so and their independence they were for('cd important that the sooner it is resolved the into militancy. This has been thrust on better it will be. them. The first thing is that the Tamils of I was invited to an International Con- Sri Lanka have cultural and emotional ties ference of Tamilians io New York. I noticed with the Indians and that cannot be in tbe two day conference that they never overlooked. We have centuries old spoke of disintegrating Sri Lanka. Even if relations with tbem. Our cultural links the Sri Lank.an Government disregards with them have not been snapped and world opinion and I ndiats intervention and will never be served. So, the people of puts an end to all negotiations, will the India are pained when atrocities are Tamiliaus there allow genocide? Even tbe committed on tbe Tamils in Sri Lanka and Government of India will not like that 30 tbey have been meted out injustice. lakb Tamilians are liquidated, tbeir properly razed to tbe ground and their identity I tbink the freedom-loving people crushed. OUf Government has raised its should be ashamed of the treatment being voice for the South African cause and it meted out to the 3 million Tamils in Sri stands committed in this House that it will Lanka. I think it is the people in South give all possible assistance to those who are Africa, Palestine and Tamils in Sri Lanka fighting against tbe racist regime. Our wbo are being subjected to atrocitjes and Government is also committed to help the whose houses have been destroyed. It is Palestinians in their war of independence not a small problem. It is quite a big against the Israelis. I think tbat in the problem. It is a question of the very Sri Lankan issue, our responsibility is much survival of the Tamils. The Government more, because after all it is the people of of India should try to solve this problem Indian origin who have settled there and not only though negotiations but every their language, culture and outlook is tbe possible action should be taken to achieve tbe same as ours. So, when they are hurt it is objective and to get justice for the Tamils. the people of Tamil Nadu in India whose 1 take this opportunity to declare in the feelings hurt. I would like to teU tbe bon. House tbat our National Conference wants Minister that the Sri Lankan problem does justice with the Tamils of Sri Lankai we not concern Tamil Nadu alone; it is a matter have reiterated it outside tbe House also. of grave concern for the entire nation. The I tbink the Government of Sri Lanka has feelings of the people on this issue, irrespec- totally failed in achieving this goal. That tive of the area to which they belona. Government is bent upon inflicting cruelty whether it is Andhra Pradesh, U.P.. Bihar. on the Tamils, The Sri Lanka Government Kashmir, Punjab or Madbya Pradesh is the wants to liquidate tbree million Tamils 00 same everywhere. Therefore, we want that the island, tbough tbey are continuously this problem should be resolved at the saying tbat they want to resolve tbis earliest. As this is a matter of human riabta problem throUSb dialoluo with India. I aod independence of a community which It 317 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem KARTIKA 20. 1908 (SAKA) of Tamilians in Sri Lanka 31. an integral part of our country, we should the national as well as international Jevel in not be cowed down by any pres~mre tactics. this regard but Sri Lanka bas turned a deaf Atrocities are being committed on Sri ear to it and its Government haa not budled Lankan Tamils, but tbey will not bave to an inch. I would like that our Government bc:ar them for long as our Government fully sbould categorically tell us as to what sbould agrees with tbeir views and is fighting for be done and give us some concrete sugges- their cause at different world forums includ- tions. Every Indian will cooperate witb you ing the Unih~d Nations. I am sorry about whole-heartedty, but tbe Government should tbe acl ion taken by the Tamil Nadu make it a point to save the life and bonour Government in the state. The State Govern- of Sri Lankan Tamils and restore peace and ment is within its right to take whatever tranquility in the region. With tbese words, action it deems fit but the impression thus 1 conclude. created boosted the morale of the Sinhalese Governmellt. They were under the impres- fEnglish] sion that military training was being imparted in India and now they will suppress THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and crush the Tamil militants with MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS vengeance. I feel that things have to be (SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH) : Mr. Deputy dealt with great care in the south because Speaker, I have listened with sreat respect they way the militant leaders were arrested and attention to the hon. Members who and the way it was given wide publicity bas have participated in this debate. On the tarnished the image of India. This bas whole, the debate has been constructive. It proved detrimental to the cause of the is an important, thougb delicate subject Tamils in Sri Lanka. I would ltke to submit, which is also very emotive, aod, tb\!refore. in through you, Sir, that this is not only the my response I shall be as restrained as J cause of the Tamils but also of the whole of possibJy can and before I reply to tbe points India and we should help in all possible made by hon. Members I would, Sir, with ways to resolve this problem. We have your permission make a brief statement so noticed that the Sri Lankan Government as to bring the House up to date about tbe has merely indulged in negotiations earlier status of the proposals that the Sri Lankan but now they are committing atrocities and Government made recently. genocide and not milking aoy practical efforts to find a political solution. Tamil It wiH be recalled that as a result of women are heing raped, their innocent the efforts made by the Government the Sri children are being murdered. their houses Laukan Government came out in June 1986 are being burnt down and there is mass with a package af proposals which we felt killing and genocide of the Tamil Com- deserve the careful consideration of the Sri munity. How long will the Indian Govern- Lanka Tamils as a basis for negotiations ment and Indian people remain a mute towards the political solution of tbe ethnic spectator to this sordid affair? Hon. crisis in Ceylon. The proposals received from Minister, Sir, this matter will not be solved the Government of Sri Lanka were transmit- in this manner, You will have to find a ted tu the Sri Lonkan Tamil aroups at tho way out. lest it should be written in the end (If June, 1986. annals of history that I[)dia betrayed the innocent Tamils of Sri Lanka who were On the basis of this package of pro- looking up to us and our progeoy may posals. tbe Tamil United Liberation Front curse us for ever. agreed to reopen direct discussions with t'he Sri Lankan authorities. The TULF and the Sri Lanka has been emphasizing time SrI Lanka Government beld two rounds of and again for a military solution to the discussions in July 1986 and August 1986 problem. I would like to know what this rc~pectively. Based on these discussions the miHtary solution means. Is it not a fact that Sri Lankan Government seot new formula- they are insisting that the military action tions and proposals. These proposals and taken by them is bearing fruit? What they formulatioDs deal with the amendment to the have done is de!itruclkm of property and Sri Lankan Constitution to provide for the genocide of the Tamils and India has done crea tiOD of provincia I councils and dt' \' \11 u - practically ootbioB. We have done a lot 00 don of powers to tbem; allocation of subject" j1. Dis. on tite Ethnic Probiem NOVEMBER 1i, i986 of Tamtiians ilt Sri Lanka 3sd (Sbrl K. Natwar SiDgh] They have beoD a party to tbe negotiations. between tbe provinces and the Central We' are in touch witb tbem. as I said in my authorities and details of devolution in statement. respect of law and order and land settle- SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: With all ment. tbe members ? Tbe proposals and formulations discussed between the Sri Lanka Government and SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH: We are tbe TULF were further discussed by the in touch with all the members. You o light TULF in meetings with legal experts and to know this. (l1lterruptions) officials of the Government of India. On tbe basis of these discussions the TULF Il!aders Here I would like to just mention tbe have revised the draft formulations and tbe helpful role played by the Government of revised package bas becn conveyed to tbe Tamil Nadu. Several hon. Members spoke otber Tamil groups with a view to continuing about the detention of some of the Tamil tbe discussions towards finding a political militants in Madras. My colleague. the solution. The process is continuing and Minister of State for Home Affairs. was Government is making every endeavour to with me. He had to go to the Vice- ensure tbat the momentum of progress President. So, he is not here. But he has aaioed over tbe last few months is not given me tbis information. No arrests were dissipated. made; no cases were r Similarly. I welcome the intervention of SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : Instead Sbri Suresh Kurup. He bas also expressed of 'Pulao' (delicacy) it will become 'Khichri' his views with regard to the involvement of (mess), certain outside powers to which I have already made a reference that this is very purvi~w SHR( K. NATWAR SINGH: Sir, wait much under the of the Government. 9 He asked why the Government of India had a minute 'Pula0 is going to be served. not been more out spoken against the Government of United States. I precisely SHRI NARAYAN CI-IOUBEY Let 9 do not know Wh.Bt is meant by more out ... t"e cPulao be cooked first. spoken, but the fact is that we have drawn the attention at the diplomatic level, at high SHRI K. NATWAR SINOH: Yes, it level of the United Slates to the d.lDaers is being cooked. their involvement would entail. [English] Also, Sir. very constructive contribution was made by Shri Sharad Dighe about the Shri Shahabuddin was incharse of tbe very delicate situation that we are faciog in Sri Lanka desk in tbe Ministry of External Sri Lanka. He aJ~o referred to the divisions Affairs when he was still with the (orei80 amona the militants. This is a matter service. So, he is very much familiar with which the militants have to work out tbem- the Sri L41okao situation and that is why be selves. It is very difficult for us except in wa!l able to appreciate tbe dilemma of tbe broad lines to place before them the Government of India just as I am able to propp,a,. t~at Sri ,,"an"an OovernJ,ncnt ba~ apprc~hlte tbis dilemm_. 381 Dis. on the Ethnic Problem NOVEMBEQ. II, 1986 01 Tamilians In Sri Lanka 384 (TranI/at/on] State who naturally want to embarrass your Government· there. But we are not looking SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY We at it in a narrow manuer, we are lookina at have already sensed its flavour. it from the point of view of finding a solution to the problem and, as I said [Engll,h] earlier, wo appreciate the role that your Chief Minister in spite of his ill-health has SaRI K. NATWAR SINGH: Thank played in this particular matter because tbe heaven for small mercies. great burden of 120.nOO or more refugees who came to India over the past two or (TranI/at/on] three years falls on the Tamil Nadu Govern- ment not only in term of socio-economic PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It is problem, but also in terms of law and no sman mercy if be picks up the scent. order. [Engli.,h] We also bad the interventions of Mr. Narcsh Cbalurvedi and Mr. Narayan SHRI K. NATWAR SINGH Shri Cboubey. Here again I would like to Sbababuddin said in a country which is assure tbe hon. Member Shri .Choubey that mult.t-lingual, multi-racial, multi-reJigious, we are fully aware of the situation in and ODe bas to carry the people as one and you around Sri Lanka in the context in which could not lay down hard and fast rules- he mentioned it. that either you accept or break. That is Dot possible. This is what we have been Tben, Mr. Kumaramangalam spoke at trying to as gentle and diplomatic and as length and with some passion about the often as we can convey it to the Government Sri Lanka problem. I entirely agree with of Sri Lanka that they have to cury the him that it is not an internal problem and Tamil population with them. They are it has o\)t been treated as such. He also entitled to the same rights as other people made some references to the President of and di"crimination against them is totally Sri Lanka who if I may, is somebody 25 unacceptable. As Shri Shahabuddin said years older than him, so that it would be in 1986-these anti diluvian ideas can only desirable to make more polite references to lead to avoidable tragedy. He also was a Head of the State. good enough to mention that India's good offices had been useful and valuable and I SHRf P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM : am grateful to him. Like him we do not Advice taken. want military solution to a political solution. MR. DEPUTY SPEt\KER Unless He also mentioned-call for cease fire. Kumaramangalam is poliCe! We have on a number of occasions made a call for cease fire-once in June 1985, and SHRl K. NAIWAR SINGH: We also tben again in January J986. But borh heard from Mr. Ramoowatia and l)r. Raj times the cease fire apptals failed because Hans, and finally Mr. Kaiw)i, who aJl drew the monitoring agencies nf the Sri Lanka the attention of the House to tbe serious Government were not all that one would situation in Sri Lanka and emphasised that desire them to be. On that at least I would justice and fair play should be the Jot ..,f Dot say anything more. the people of the Sri Lankan Tamils. This jCJ the view which the Government entirely We bad interventions from Shri shares and we ha ve through our HiSh Jeevarathinam and Prof. Kurien. Commission and through our Foreign Office here, at the Ministerial level and now Heads Now the Leader of the Tamilnadu Party of the Government level-our Prime in Parliament Shri KoJandaivelu, I naturally Minister met Mr. Jayawardene a number of heard what he said, with very great respect times for these things. Our Prime Minister because the Government of Tamilnadu has met the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka at a special role to play and they have also to Harare. So, this particular question is kept qe'_l wit~ )'o\~r "oJitlcal opponepts iq Y9ur i~ (fonl or the OovernP1e~t at tbe bi,hos\ 385 De/hi Fire Prevention and KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Fire Safety Bill, 1986 386 level. I can only assure the House that adequate fire safety precautions and means whatever the hon. Members have said, we of escape. No Completion Certificate for have taken note of it with all the earnestness any building could be issued without the no- and seriousness that it deserves and if at any objection certificate from the Chief Fire other time when the occasion arises we would Officer. like to bring some facts before the House, we will do so, but at the moment I would SHRI PIYUS TlRAKY (Alipurduara) : say that it would be desirable and advisable On the first day itself, you are playing with and wise to await the outcome of the very fire I important talks that are going to take place in Bangalore next week. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: Sir, regarding the completion certificate, this was not so in respect of building constructed before the enactment 17.43 hrs. of those building bye laws, i.e ; before June, 1983. Therefore DELHI FIRE PREVENTION AND the position was reviewed in regard to' FIRE SAFETY BILL, 1986 equipping high rise buildings in Delhi with necessary fire-fighting equiprnents, It has [English] been found after the review that out of the 220 high rise buildings, 194 continue to be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We shall deficient in respect of fire prevention and now take up item No. 11 on the Agenda- safety precautions. Therefore, inspections Delhi Fire Prevention and Fire Safety were carried out and major defects were Bill. pointed out by the Chief Fire Officer to the loeal bodies who sanction these plans. The The Minister may now move the Bill for owners were requested by the local bodies consideration. to remove deficiencies which were found and pointed out after the inspections by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe Chief Fire Officer. But the local bodies MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI reported that the owners and the builders CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI) : Sir, I beg did Dot respond to the request and had not to move: attended to deficiencies. All these things were therefore taken into consideration. "That the Bill to make more effective provision for the fire prevention It was felt that the problem cannot be and fire safety measures in certain tackled unless some stringent provisions. buildings and premises in the Union exist for enforcement of fire safety measures Territory of Delhi, be taken into so far as the Union Territory of Delhi is consideration." concerned. Sir, the fire in Gopala Towers, Therefore, Sir, it bas been found that Rajendra Place, during June, 1983, greatly the existing provisions in the Delhi agitated the minds of the general public in Municipal Cur poration Act, 1957 to enforce Delhi and also our hon. Members. the fire safety measures, particularly in multi-storeyed buildings are most inade- Sir, this tragedy highlighted the in- quate as they provide for imposition of adequacy of fire safety and fire prevention maximum penalty of only Rs, 500 for the arranaements in multi-storey buildings in infringement of bye-laws and in case of tbe Union Territory of Delhi. continuing infringement, for an additional fine of Rs. 20 only per day. Therefore, it The building bye-laws were enacted and was felt that this Act sbould be amended enforced from 23rd June 1983. Thereafter, and therefore this Bill has been brought it became necessary to obtain a No forward before the House. Objection Certificate from the Chief Fire Officer as well as to comply with the Sir, in the Statement of Objects and ~pecitjc relioqllD,end\\ti<,>qs fo~ iHst(\lIin~ ~ea~oq~ (If ~q;; Bill, wt; have Il\id down 381 Delhi Fire Prevention and NOVEMBBR 11. 1986 'Fire Salety Bill, 1986 388 ISbr. Chintamani Panilrahi] stern action Blainst defaulters. i8 also to what are tbe main salient features of the constitute n unified Authority in D.lbi Bill. Some friends have pOinted out as to under the aegis of tbe Lieutenant GoverDor whether thero should be any appeal. We to oversee fire prevention and fire safety bave provided for appeal also. Two stages means and measures related to them. Tbis of appeal alainst the orders of the nomi· will go a great way in satlsfyinl the demand nated autbority bave been provided in this of the bon. Membrs and also of tbe lIeneral Bill. Tbe first appeal will lie to the public in Delhi whose minds were greatly Appellate Tribunal constituted unner section agitated when tea8ie event al Gopa} Towen 347A of the D.M.C. Act, 19S7. The took place. second ,appeal against orders of tbe Appellate Tribunal will lie to the Adminis- This Bill is completely nOD-controver- trator who can also suo motll caB for sial and I hope tbat tbe hOD. Membra records of aoy case and pass such orders as will belp in getting this Bill passed without may be necessary. any amendments. Sir, I may infurm tbe bOD. House why MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Motion we have made tbis Bill so stringence. The moved: main features are the scope and definitjon of the word ,cbuildinas" has been "That the Bill to make more enlarged to include any structure whether effective, provisions for tbe fire preven- of masonry, bricks. wood, mud, metal or tion, aod fire safety measures in certaia other materials. Tbe second fearure is, buldings and premise! in tbe Union cinemas, hote1s. restaurants, nursing homes Territory of Delhi, be taken into and other industrial and commercial consideration. " establishments employing over 50 people are now included in tbis definition of ( Translallon] ··buliJingsU as recommended by the ·SHRI C. SAMBU (Bapatla) : Mr. MetropoHtan Council. The third thing is, Deputy Speaker, Sir, on behalf of Telu8u the definition of the world "premises" bas Desam Party I rise to support tbe Delhi been eniarged to include garden, ground Fire Prevention and Fire Safety Bill, J986. and outhouse as well of temporary struc .. Sir, I welcome the introduction of tbis Bill tures, as sUgllested by the Metropolitan which is quite non-controversial but it is Council. We have again also made pro- unfortunate tbat tbe Government thougbt visions that improverished tents, and of introducing this Bill after a considerabl, shamianas a180 now come within the pur- delay. A Bill of this nature should have view of tbis BiU. been brought before the House 10Dg ago. Various punisbments, which we are providing in this Bill are: it contains pr()~i"DS for impmJition of penalty or It appears that the policy of tbis peo,fty of imprisonment up to six months Government is to commit mistake., suffer .rut a fine or RII. SO.OOO or both in case of damages and then repent later. Many fire non .. compJiance. Where the offence is a accidents have taken place in recent days continuing one. a further fioe of Rs 3 000 Dot only in Delhi but also in several other per day will be levied, which was only Rs. parts of the country. Jt is most unfortunate 20 in the existing Act. unti1 necessary that not only our nationals but also (oreflo measure", as recommended by tbe Chief natioDals have lost tbeir lives. There was Fire Officer are adopted to render the -a fire accident at HOfa) Siddbarta in wbich buUdinls and premises safe from fire. We have maoy foreign Ditionals bad 10lt tbeir Iivea. also, .s I pointed out, made provisions thus bringing a bad Dame to tbe COWl", for people that if anybody feels tbat they before the international community. are being harassed, they can go in for Recendy there was a fire accident in Cbaodbi appeal to the Tribuna 1. Chowk area wbich bas resulted in loa. of life and property. So Sir, though this Btll The objective of the Intended leaiala .. bas b~D intr~uccd quito late nevertbeJen. 3~ Delhi Fire Prevention and KARTIKA 20, 1908 (SAKA) Fire Sq!.ty Bill. 1986 390 , This Bill is applicable only to tbe crores of rupees in the construction of such Union territory of Delbi. A good measure buildinls. A penalty of Rs. SO,ooo i. a. this, should be made appUcable to tho nothing but pea-Duts to them. Their turn wbole country. Not only in Delhi, but out runs into crores aDDually. !be also in ot her metropolitan cities like imprisonment of 6 montbs is a remoto Bombay. Calcutta, Madras and HyC:crabad possibility. This punisbment is not tbe fire accidents are takina place too sufficient enough to work as a deterrent. frequently. Many multi·stroyed buildings Hence it should be raised considerably. are coming up in these cities to accommodate On1y then they will be cautious of fire tbe ever increasing demand of tbe accidents and would take interest in fire population. The coming up of sky prevention measures. It is only tbe common scrapers is a phenomenon witnc:ssed during people who suffer most durinl the fire tbe recent years in all the major cities in tbe accidents in multi-storeyed complexes. country. This calls for a greater vigilence There is a fire insurance scheme. Tbe aa.inst fire mishaps. Our cities are beneficiaries of tbis scheme are owners of expanding rather vertically than horjzontally. these multi-storeyed buildings and '-star We should keep this fact in mind before botel complexes. They set every paisa takiog measures (0 prevent fire accidents. back in the event of any fire accident. Tbey are setting their claims tbroUlb tbe Sir. our fire fighting machinery is insurance companies. But the unfortunate woefully obsolete. We do not have modern people who work in tbose places or the equipment. , We are constructing 50 or 60 persons who occupy hote) rooms whicb storeyed buildings and our fire fighting suffer from any damage due to fire accident equipment i. Dot adequate enough to do not get any belp either from Government put out tbe tire particularly when tbe fire or from the employers or tbe insurance breaks out in tbe 10th or 15th fioor. Hence company. Nothing has been said about the fire fighting force must be geared up to providing compensation to be paid to tbe meet (be challcnges of multi-storeyed vic1 ims of fire accidents due to the buildipgs. The force has to be modernised. negligence of building owners, It is tbe We must be in a position to put out the re spon,\ibility C'f the Government to protect fire even jf it breaks out in the topmost tbe interests of innocent victims. Tbe lOBS floor. We should procure modern of life and propert!, shou1d be fully machinery and equipment to make our fire compensated. Hence I pJead for introducin. fiabling force more effective. Another some insurance or sobeme for the benefit major drawkback is (bat we aro not of these innocent people who suffer due to imparting adequate training to the fire accidents. In lome cases a paltry personnel. The training which is now beini Rs. 5,000 or Rs. 10,000 is being paid to the imparted is only for name sake. It is not victims in a most casual manner. In effective. The trflininll given to fire multi-storeyed complexes, there will be f\ab.l.iaI force should be effective. OnJy many petty venders and other persons wen-trained staff can meet tbe situation doing small jobs. Their survival will be effectively. Our fire men can successful), affected to a considerable extent in tbe rescue the people even from the top most event of a fire accident. Hence thry should floor of a sky scraper when tbey get proper, also be paid adequately. It is also the effective. modern training. They should be responsibility of the Government to react taught bow to band Ie modern equipment sympatbeticaHy. used for figbthing the fire. Thus we can Sif, many fire accidents take in multj. minimise the loss firo accidents to • storeyed buildings due to sbort circuit of minimum. el~ctricity. So tbe supply of electricity should be taken care of and made safe by Sir, just now the bon. Minister said tbat ensuring that proper precaution i. taken. the owners of multi-storeyed complexes Care should be taken to avert sbort circuits wbo contravene the provisions of this Bill in tbe electric current suppJy. This will will be subjected to a tine of Rs. 50,000 or reduce the tire accidents to a considerable 6 months imprisonment. The owners of extent.. these multi-storeyed complexes, five-star 391 Delhi Fire Prevention and NOVEMBER 11. 1986 Fire Safety Bill. 1986 Business Advisory Committee 392 [Shri C. Sambu] fighting force is not in a position to cope up be operative only in Delhi. As I mentioned up with the demand. The State Govern- earlier, fire accidents are taking place ment~ are not in a position to provide everywhere. Hence there should be a sufficient funds for the expansion of fire uniform policy and method applicable to all fighting force. Hence the Central Govern- other cities. The Central Government ment should extend financial help to the should issue necessary guidelines to the State Governments so as to enable them to establish fire stations in rural areas also. State Governments in this regard. In fact, I feel, that it would have been more Thus we can prevent loss of life and appropriate and useful had it been the property throughout the country. J hope "Indian Fire Prevention and Fire Safety the hon. Minister would consider this request sympathetically. Bill 1986" rather than "The Delhi Fire prevention and Fire Safety Bill". The entire country is ours. Damage is damage S.ir: I conclude my speech thanking you wherever it may take place. Hence for giving me the opportunity to initiate the legislations like this should be uniformly debate on this important Bill. applicable to all parts of India. Every Indian deserves to be protected and the 18.00 hrs. Central Government should provide such protection. BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE The population in the country is increasing rapidly. The growing population [English] is resulting in the increased construction of multi-storeyed buildings. Many of our Twenty-nInth Report country men are middle or lower middle class people who usually acquire a Oat in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the multi-storeyed residential complexes. MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY Hence permission should be given for the AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA construction of multi-storeyed fiats only D1KSHIT): Sir, I beg to present the after a careful thought and we must ensure Twenty-ninth Report of the Business that fire prevention and safety measures Advisory Committee. are well taken care of. Hence the Govern- ment should give necessary instructions to the concerned departments to permit only MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The House such construction which take necessary stands adjourned to reassemble tomorrow measures to prevent fire accidents. at 11.00 a.m. Sir, we do not have many fire stations 18.01 hrs. in our rural areas. There is no fire fighting machinery in our villages. Leave alone Tile Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven villages, even small towns with a population of the Clock 011 Wednesday. of more than 2 lakhs do not have fire November 12, 1986/Kartika 21, stations. Even in those places where there 1908 (Saka) are fire stations, there is only one fire engine. It is too inadequate. Fire accidents take place frequently. The fire < "•.