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Senator )IcKELLAn. You haYc namf'cl ix of th<'m. IJaye all these con- AI o tlJe· following resolution: cerns gotten contract. from the Gon~rnmcnt? Senate resolution -:123. Mr. RICE. No, sir. Senator l\IcKELLAn • . Which ones han~ not? R cso lrPd, That the Senate expresses its profounu !';Ort'OW in the lleatll 1\Ir. RrcE. The ::\lartin Co.-- of lion. W'ILLLBI HuGHES, late a Senator from the State of New .Jersey. Senator McKELLAR. 'l'he ~Iartin C'o. has not? Re~olt;e(l, 'l'hat as a mark of respect to the memory of the deceased Mr. RICE. The ::\I:ntin Co. has bad contracts. thu Senate, in pur ·uance of an order heretofore made, assembles to Senator :\JcKELLAR. All right, sir. · · enable hi.. associates to pay proper tribute to his h1gh character antl Mr. RICE. The Edgewater has had contracts; the Soutbtn=iU:;c anu the cti~tinguishell public services. - · Fi!';kdale have had contracts. Re,11olred, 'l'hat the Secretary communicate the e re olutions to the • enator ::\IcK};LJ•. ~n. And the l\Iansfield? House of H£'presentatives and transmit a copy thereof to the family of · Mr. RICB. '.fhey had one or two contract in the spriJ?-g. the uecea~(>lJ. Senator McKELLAR. The Slatersville? Resolved, That as a further mark of respect to the memory of the Mr. RICE. Only one or t\\'O, Iecently. We ha>e been giying them some uecea ·ed the Senate do now atljourn. recently. SEX ATE lULL UEFERRED. :Mr. CHAMBERLA.IX I mote that the Senate take a recess until12 o'clock noon to-morrow. Unc.ler clause 2 of Rule XXIV, Senate bill of the following title Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Presic.lent, before the recess is was taken from the Speaker's table and referrec.l to its appro­ taken I think we slwuld point out to the Senator from Nevada priate. committee, as indicated below: that the amendment which he proposes to this bill unc.loubtedly S. 4887. An act making an appropriation for a _sewer system will deJa~· the bill in conference. This is one of the most im­ at the Carson Indian School at Ste,Yart, NeY.; to the Committee portant bills which has come before the Senate. It inYolves the ou Indian Affairs. . ettlement of nearly $2,000,000,000 worth of contracts. This · 'l'HE TIAJLRO.-\DS. legislation should have been pas. cc.l two months ago; anc.l I do 1\fr. G).. R~'ER. ~Ir .• 'peaker, I want to insert in t.he REcORD lwpe the Senator will not press that amendment on this bill some resolutions passec.l by the State Senate of Texas touching when the time come . the railroac.l question. RECESS. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Mr. CHAMBERLAIN. I renew my motion for a recess until l\Ir. DENISON. Reserving the right to object, l\Ir. Speaker, 12 o'clock noon to-morrow. will the.gentlernan state what is the nature of the resolutions? The motion was agn~ed to; and (at 4 o'clock anc.l GO minutes Mr. GAR~~R. They express the opinion that the railroads p. m.) the Senate took a recess nntil to-morrow, 'Vec.lnesday, ought to he turnell back to the owners of them. If the gentleman .Tnuuury 29, 19Hl, nt 12 o'cloc:k meridian. wants to know the. ubstnnce of it, that is what it is. The S.PEAJOJR. Is there objection? ~.rbere was no .objection. . I-lOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Following are the resolutions refe'n·ed to: · " Thereas postwar and reconstrt~ction conuitions have brought these Tm:soAY, Janum'.lf 28, 1919. United ~fates of America many probleins of great import, anti perhaps the one of greatest importance i~ the qu·estion of Government owner­ of the railways of the Un it ~ll ~ta~~s; and , . . The Hout'e met :it 11 o'clock n. m. Whereas our great democratic President, m whose Wistiom we have every The 'lwplain, HeY. Henry X Cou(len, D. D., off~rec.l tlle fol­ reason to confide, in his address to Congre~s on December 2, said: lo,,·ing prayer: •• The questicn which causes me the greatest concern is the question or J,eatl us, 0 Loru Goc.l, our HeaYenLy Father, by Thy counsels the policy to be adopted . to,,·ard the railroatlE. I frankly turn to .your counsel upon it";· aiul after making other ilhim1nating state· through the remaining congressional hours of this day. ments on .this subject, further says. ''Let me say at once that I have Give to these Repre. entati...-es of our people clear minds, no answer ready. The only thing that Is perfectly clear to me is that conscientious scruples, high ideals, that they may hallow Thy it Is not fair. either to the publi: or to the owners of the railroads to leave the question una·u:wered and that it will pres·ently become my name in aU the legislatiYe acts t~1ey rnny reconl in history. Iu duty to relinquish control of the roads, even before the expiration o:C tbe spirit of the Lord Jesus Chri. t. Amen. 1 he statutory period, unle:s the1·c sball appear some clear prospect in The Journal of the proceeeings of yesterday was reac.l anc.l up- the meantime of a legislath-e solution. Their release would at least produce one elenlfmt of its solution, ;lamely, rei·talnty anti a quick ln·oved. stimulation of private initiat.lvP.": and MESS.AOE FRO~I THE SENATE. 'Vhereas in wisdom, so characteristic of the man, our President has . turned to Congre:;;s for counsel on this momentous subject, in his keen A message from the Senate, by Mr. Walc.lorf, its elll'olling sense of justice endeavoring to ·ueal fairly with the owners of the rail- clerk, annouucec.l that the Senate had passed bill of the follow­ roads and protectively to the pu!Jlic welfare; and · . Whereas we feel that the Congress of the United States will, by. being ing title, in wllich the concurrence of the Honse of Representa­ informed of public sentiment, !Je hetter · able to solve and direct the tives was requested : course of the problem, anti recognizing the necessity, ·as expressed in S. 4887. An act making au appropriation for a sewer system the President's address, of relinquishing control of the railroads as quickly as possible and the certainty of conditions that said release at the Carson Indian Sclwol at Stewart,- Nev. of the railroads by the Federal Government would immediately e taU.. The messnge also announced that the Senate had agreec.l to lish ; therefore, be ft the amendments of the House of Representatives to the bill Resolud by t11e Senate of tltis t11e Thirfy-si.rth I,egislature of the (S. 2784) to authorize the purchase by the city of Mcl\linnville, State of Tea:as, That we fayor the return of the railroads to their ownen1 in as immeuiately as it can be accomplished without confusion or losses; Oreg., of certain lanc.ls formerly embraced the grant to the be it further • . Oregon & California Railroac.l Oo. nnd revested in the United Ilesol·r:ed, That we believe and think private owner. hip untler strong States by the net approved .June 9, 1916. Government co.1trol and regulation in service, income, and disbursements is desirable, and we do not believe Federal Government ownership of The message also announcec.l that the Senate hac.l pas ec.l the railroads is for the best interests of the people at this time; be it further following resolutions: Resolved, That the secretat·y of the senate forward properly authen­ Senate resolution 430. ticated copies of this resolution to each United States Senator and Mem­ ber of Congress from Texas for their consideration, and a copy to the Rcsolred, That the Senate has hearu with profound sorrow the an­ chief clerks of the bouse of representatives and the senate of each State. nouncement of the death of the Hon. EowAnD EvERETT RoBBI~s, late a Uepresentative from the State of Pennsylvania. EXTE_-siO~ OF REMARKS. Resol1:ed, That a committee of seven Senators be appointed by the Vice President to join the committee appointed on the part of the l\Ir. 1\IO:NTAGUE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to llouse of Representatives to attend the funeral of the deceased. ResoZred, That the Secretary communicate n. copy of these resolutions extenc.l my remarks in the RECORD by printing the Jetter of Chief to the llousP. of Representatives. Justice Taney, under date of February 16, 1863, known as his Resol~:ed, That as a further mark of respect to the memory of the remonstrance against the impositiou of an income tax upon juc.li­ deceased the Senate do now adjou~n. cial salaries, and also the opinion of Attorney General Hoar in Anc.l that the Yice President, umle.r the second resolution, had relation to the same. I do this for the benefit of the conferees nppointed Mr. PE~ROSE, ~Ir. KisG, l\.Ir. OVERli.AN, 1\lr. 'VARREN; of the House anc.l the few lurking 1overs of the Constitution A.fr. BAIRD, Mr. THOMPSON, and l\1r. KNox as said committee on throughout the country. the part of the Senate. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Also the following resolution: There was no objection. • Senate resolution 422. ADillNISTRATION OF THE OVER!L-\~ ACT. Rellolrecl, That the Senate expresses its profound sorrow in the death o! Hon. HOBERT F. BROUSSARD, late a Senator from the State or Mr. GOULD rose. Louisiana. Rcsol,;ed, That as a mark of respect to the memory of the cleceased The SPEAKER. For what purpose c.loes the gentleman from the &>nate, in pursuance of an order heretofore made, assembles to New York rise? enable his associates to pay proper tribute to his high character and l\Ir. GOULD. I rise to make a pri\ileged motion, Mr. Speaker. uistlnguisbe

The SPEAKER. He ha a privileged re oluti n, uniess ome­ ."SEc. 3. Tha·t the judge of the Stipreme urt of i.he n· - bouy can pick a hole in H. [Laughter.] The Clerk will I~ e­ trlct of Columbia Shall recei\"'e salaries. the saine as salaries pro· port it. :rid'ed by this act .to be 'paid to judges of district court of the The Clerk read a · follow :. United State , and such salarie shall be paid as now proTicled House l'e olution 4 1. ·by law. · · · Rcsolced Thnt th Pre ldent i hereby request u to inform the IIou. e " The judges of the Court of Appeal· of th i. tt·ict of Colum­ of llepresentath·e of the re ult, in detail, of his administration ·of the proylt;lons of the so-called Overman Act, approved May 20, 191~ en­ bia ·shall receife salaries the arne a.s the ·al:1ri · provided by titled ·~ act authorizing the Pre ~dent .to coordinate ,or consomlntc1 . this act to be paid to judges of the Circuit ourt of Appeal of the· executive bureaus, agencle , and offices, and for other purposes, in the ·United State and uch alurie. , hall be paid a. now provided lntere. t of economy and 'the more efficient concentration of the Govern- ment." , · by law." 1\fr. WEBB. 1\fr. Speaker, I make the point of order that the Alld the Senate'ngree to the same. ~:e olution is not privileged. Amendment numbeJ.•ecl '8; That the Hou e r ed :from· it tli ·­ agreement to the amendment · of the ·senate numbered 8, and The SPEAKER. What i · the point of order that k~ps it from· being· privileged? · agree to the same with an amendment .as follow : In lieu of the · 1\Jr. \VEBB. I have only examined it casually, but--. matter inserted .by said ru;nendment ln crt the foil owing: · The SPEAKER. It was referred to the committee two or ".SEc. 5. That the judges of the United States Court of us· thr e week ago. toms· Appeals shall receive sala:ries equal in nmount to the sal­ 1\fr. WEBB. I lmve not been reque ·ted as chairman of tho atie.s proYided ~Y thi act to be paid judge · of the ircuit Court committee to act upon the resolution at all. of Appeals of the United State , payable monthly fl·om t11e Tbc SPEAKER. That is it. Treasury." 1\fr. WEBB. The clerk of the committee spoke to me about it And the Senate agree to the ·nrue. n.nd said it was not privileged, and therefore no immediate E. Y. "'.Elm. action was taken on it. . c. C.lRLI ~. The SPEAKER. The Clerk will again report it. H. J. STE:EI.E The resolution again read. . J. VoLSTEAn, 1\fr. WEBB. Mr. Speaker, I think it is clear from that xead­ GEO. s. GRAITllf, ing that it is calling upon the President to express an opinion Managers on the pa.1·t ot tll c Jlou c. as to the result. HOKE SMITH, The SPEAKER. Where doeoo it eall upon the Pre ldent for WILLIAM H. Kl .~ G, that? J. 0. WoLCOTT, Mr. WEBB. It asks for there tilts in detail. FBAI'Ur B. Bn~ "'Dl:Ol.'E • The SPEAKER. The Chair knows it asks for re nits in de· LEBARON B. COLT, j;ail • but two and two make four, and such sto:1f as that. 1l£anag rs on the part of the Senate. M'r. WEBB. That Is very true; but to call on the President for the results of a thing is to call upon hlm for nn expre. sion The SPEAKER The question i on agreeing to the confer· of opinihat rcc de from it· amentlmept numberell 7. l\lr. 1\IAl\N. Oh! Then, of cour ·c, we arc rca

. the circuit court of appeals. The one is interchangeable \\ith I ci\il cases, 2 criminal case~, o.r n total · o~ ~. In 1918 there were the other in common 1:mguage. That is the way we looked at it. pending 64 patent ca._es, 49 ci\il cases, 6 criminal cases, a total The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the eonfer- of 119. ence report. It is also intere.'ting to reau in the same report of the courts )lr. GAUD. Mr .•~penker I Llesire to a k the gentleman to in the District of Columbia, in ''"hich a statement is made as to <'J..-plain to the Hou~e the action ·of the conferees relntiye to the ciYil cases to which the_United States \\as a pru·ty. These ci-vil Court of Claims and to the judges of the Supreme Uourt of the cases are designated fir ·t at the close of business June 30, 1918, District of Columbia Ul'; to wlletller they are inclutletl in the a.· being 1 safety-appliance ca. e, 1 hours-of-serYice case, 6 for­ proposition for n Federal judiciary? _feiture ca es under proceedings of the foou and

1\Ir. WEBB. 1\Ir. penker, jn t one word in reply to that. That tile Hou .,. recede from it~ disal!re ment to the amend­ There is a great d-emand in thi · Di trict for more judg-es on this ment. of the Senate numb red. 2, 3, 4, 5, G, 7, anle of thi District pay one-half .of this in­ purchase o.f wheat, preference hall be given to grain gro"-rn .in cre..'lse. Mr. Speaker, I move the pr non. que. tion on the the United States. . conference report. The House agrees to the amendment of llie Senate amendin'g The previous qu tion wa ordered. the title of the bill. · The SPEAKER. The qne5'tlon i on agr eing to the confer­ Sw.A.GAR SHETILET, ence report. .JoHN J". E o..u;, The conference. repor .w· · agreed to. ;r. G. c_ 1"NON, Managers on tlw vart of the Ilouse. LEAVE OF ABSENCE. By-unanimous consent. at the request of Mr. 1\lcAn:rHUR, Mr. 1\fr. SHERLEY. Mr.. Speakert there was one sul> tfintive Il.A.WLEY wa granted indefinite leave of ab ence on account of propo ition placed upon the bill us it passed the ennte, and ;lllne. s. that was to make clear that among the populations in Europe

FOOD RELIEF-cO::ITEI:~CE RE:POJlT (:~0. !)!) ) • that should be included within the relief to be affordell by the bill were Armenians, Syrians, Greeks, and other Christian and Mr. SHERLEY. 1\lr. Speaker, I call up the confercuce re­ Je i h populations of Asia. Minor. As the amendments, which port upon the bill (II. R. 1370&) providing fo1· the relief of were numbered 1 and 2, were offered and agreed to by tho such populations in Europe, and countries contiguous thereto, Senate the effect of No. 2 would have been to nullify and de­ outsitle of Germany, as may be determined upon by the Pre ·i­ ·troy in part amendment No. 1, becau e the bUl as it pas··etl dent as necessary. the House provided for the relie:t' of various populations in The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Kcntuch-ry calls up the Europe and territory contiguous thereto, outsld of Germant. :conference 1·eport on the food-relief bill, whieh the Olerk will The Senate undertook to include in amendment No. 1 the 1·ead. cotmtries I haTe enumernteu, and then in No. 2 pr vided that The Clerk rend the conference report, a follow : the relief should be to populations outside of Germany. JeTman­ Austria, lltmgary, Bulg.aria, and Turkey. 'I'he very cia:·· they. The comn1i tlee of conference on the tli ·agreeiug \otes of the wanted to include were populations insid • 'l'man-Au. tria, two Hou ·on the amendments of the Senate to the bill (H. R. Hungary, "Bulgaria, and Turkey. The confer :uri d out the 1370 ') proYiding for t110 relief of such populati.ons in Europe, spirit of the Senate amendment by proYiding Umt 01e relief an

spok€n of in Austria, Hungary, and jn Turkey. The other Mr. . STAFFORD. .Will the gentleman yield? amendments of the Senate were amendments that undertook Mr. FOSTER. I yield. to make it more clear that there should be a complete audit Mr. STAFFORD. When the Senate bill -was under consid- and detailed report of receipts and expenditures, and the House· eration, no consideration whatsoever was given to the amend· was \el'Y glad to accept those Senate amendments. . ment of the committee striking out of the Senate bill authority Mr. DENISON. Can the gentleman give substantially the to tlie Bureau of Mines to investigate peat production. Now, language of the exclusions in the blll as finally agreed upon? I understand that the conferees have agreed to restore the Mr. SHERLEY. The exclusions of the bill are Germany, word "peat," so as to include peat with lignite-coal production German-Austria~ Hungary, and Turkey-- in this investigation? Mr. STAFFORD. And Bulgaria. Mr. FOSTER. Peat was stricken out because it was thought Mr. SHERLEY. And Bulgaria, except Armenfans, Syrians, we would only investigate lignite coal, but after investigation Greeks. a.nd other Christian and Jewish populations of Asia further it -was found they could do this on the $100,000, so -we 1\linor, now or formerly subject to Turkey, may be included restored it. mth the populations to recei1e relief. Mr. Speaker, I ask for :Mr. STAFFORD. The question was not so much the feasi· a >ote. bility but merely to use up the $100,000? The question was taken, and the conference report was 1\Ir. FOSTER. No: it was not that at all. agreed to. Mr. STAFFORD. I beg the gentleman's pardon; then I mis- LIG-~ITE co..us AND PEAT--CONFERENCE REPORT (NO. V72). understood his explanation as to the reason for including peat. Mr. FOSTER. We eliminated peat-- 1\lr. FOSTER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I call up the conference report Mr. STAFFORD. I remember when the bill -was under con- on the bill S. 3220. sideration some one stated they would strongly oppose having 1\Ir. SHERLEY. 1\Iay I ask, pending the gentleman's motion, an investigatlon·made'as to the commercial \alue of peat as a how long the gentleman proposes to take? It was the under- fuel product, and it was eliminated by the committee and no standing of the House on yesterday that the House -would con- consideration was given to it on the floor. sider the deficiency bill this morning. Mr. FOSTER. There could not be; it was passed under Mr. FOSTER. I d,o not suppose it will take Yery long, but I suspension of the rules. can not inform the gentleman. .1\fr. STAFFORD. That emphasizes more the need, perhaps, of The SPEAKER. What is the conference report? some real explanation as to why peat was included within the 1\Ir. FOSTER. On the lignite bill. purview of this bill. The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the conference report. 1\fr. FOSTER. The conferees talked with the head of the The conference report was read, as follows: Bureau of 1\Iines, and he thought they could make this investi­ gation of peat. There were some men from the States of 1\Iin- The committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the nesota and Florida who were very insistent, especially from two Houses on the amendments of the House to the bill (S. 3220) Florida, in having that language restored, and so it wa done authorizing the Secretary of the Interior to make investigations, after finding we could do that on the amount of money pro­ through the Bureau of Mines, of lignite coaL'l and peat, to de-- vided, $100,000. termine the practicability of their utilization as a fuel and in Mr. STAFFORD. Is the gentleman quite sure it will not go producing commercial products, having met, after full and free beyond $100,000? conference have agreed to recommend and do recommend to tlleir Mr. FOSTER. That is the limit of the amount in this bill. l'espective Houses as follows: 1\Ir. STAF:lORD. I have many times known of a limit on That the House recede from its amendment numbe1·ed 1. uppropriatipns where bureaus; especially the Bureau of ::\lines, That the Senate recede from its disagreement to the amend- have come to Congress for a larger appropriation. · ments of the House numbered 2 and 3, and agree to the same. 1\Ir. FOSTER. I can not say as to that; the gentleman and 1\f. D. FosTER, myself will not be here next session. OTis WINGO, Mr. STAFFORD. And we will not be responsible after .this E. E. DENrso ", term of Congress for the raid of these bureaus upon the Managers on the part ot the House. Treasury. . OHABLES B. HENDERSON, Mr. GREEN of Iowa. 'Vill the gentleman yield? T. J. WALSH, Mr. FOSTER. I will. 1\IILEs PoiNDEXTER, Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Was not this bill originally introduced Managers on the pa1·t of the Scnq,te. as a war measure? Mr. FOSTER. I do not know that it was--- STATEMENT. Mr. GREEN of Iowa. I think the gentleman himself here told us so. Now the war is over and the· gentleman presses it , The managers on the part of the House at the conference just the sam.~. on the disagreeing >otes of the two Houses on the amendments Mr. FOSTER. I think the gentleman is wrong. :Mr. Spenker, of the House to Senate bill 3220, authorizing the Secretary of I ask for a vote. . the Interior to make investigations, through the Bureau of The question -was taken, and the conference report -was Mines, of lignite coals and peat, to determine the practicability agreed to. of their utilization as a fuel and in producing commercial products, submit the following .statement in explanation of the SECOND DEFICIENCY BILL. action taken by the conference committee, and respectfully Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Speaker, I move that tlle House re­ Jmbmit the following statement as to the action of the managers solve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the on the part of the House : state of the Union for the c.onsideration of the bill H. R. 15!40, Amendment No. 1: Page 1, line 5, the managers on the part the second deficiency appropriation bill. of the House receded from its amendment and agreed to the The motion was agreed to. 'same, restoring the words "and peat," so if the conference The SPEAKER. The Ohair had asked the gentleman from report is adopted and the bill becomes a law it will permit Texas [Mr. GAR-m:R] to act as Chairman of this committee, but rn>estigations in reference to peat as a fueL he has been called out for a few minutes to his office, and the Amendment No. 2: Page 1, line 10, the House struck out Ohair will ask the gentleman from North Carolina [l\lr. WEBB] ·r~ $150,000" and inserted "$100,000." The Senate receded from to act until the gentleman from Texas returns. its disagreement to this amendment, leaving the amount as Accordingly the House resolved itself into the Committee ot 1i:xed by House, '' $100,000." the Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration Amendment No. 3: Section 2, page 2, the amendment was of the bill H. R. 15140, the second deficiency bill, with Mr. placed in the bill by the House and the Senate ·receded and 'VEnB in the chair. agreed to the same. This is an amendment providing that The CHAIRMAN. The Rouse is in Committee of the "\"\'"hole .when the investigation is completed the Secretary of the In~ House on the state of the Union for the consideration of the terior is authorized and directed to sell or otherwise dispose bill H. R. 15140, which the Clerk ·will report of property used in the investigation and make a report to The Clerk 1·ead as follows : Congress of the results of such experiments and investigations, A bill (H. R. 15140) making appropriations to supply clefielencies in M.D. FosTER, appropriations for the fiscal year ending June 30~ Hll9, and prlor fiscal OTIS WINGO, years, and for other p\U·poses. E. E. DENISO~, Mr. SHERLEY. 1\Ir. Chairman, I a k unanimous consent Managers on the va1"t of the House. that the first reading of the bill may be dispensed with. 2220 .OONGRESSION AL RECORD-HOUSE. JANUARY 28,

The CHAIRMAN. I · there objection? [After a pause.] The the Treasury. appropriations no longer needed as I had shown Chair hears none. in the making of. those appropriations in order to facilitate the l\lr. STAFFORD. Mr. ChairUJan, I ask unanimous consent vigorous prosecution of the war. [Applause.] that the gentleman from Kentucky may have. such time as he . When the armistice was signed, upon the 11th day of Novem­ desires to explain the bill 1mder consideration. ber, I realized that it was necessary that Congress should imme­ . The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection . to the request of the diately_ascertain conditions in connection with our expenditur-es gentleman from Wisconsin? [After a pause.] The Chair hears and should immediately take steps looking to prevent their con-. none. .. tinuation except to the very least. degree required. And so on l\lr. SHERLEY. l\Ir. Chairman and gentlemen of -the commit­ the 27th day of November, prior to the convening of Congress tee, the bill which is now presented to the Committee of the for the regular session, during an informal meeting of the Com­ )Vhole House on the state of the Union for. its consideration, mittee on ·Appropriations and as the result of their approval of while designated a deficiency bill, is very much more than a the proposal I then submitted to them, I sent the following letter deficiency bill. It makes provision for an appropriation of to every Cabinet officer and to tlie head of every independent several hundred million dollars to take care of existing and organization in the Government: anticipated deficiencies, and if it stopped there it would differ NOVEl\InER 27, 1918. from any other deficiency bill only in regard to detail, but it It is the purpose of the Committee on Appropriations of the House of Representatives to begin hearings next Monday with the view of does very much more than that. It provides for the cancella­ returning to the Treasury such appropriations and the cancellation of tion of appropriations made since the beginning of the war in such authorizations, Qr parts thereof, g1.·anted in connection with tho an amount greater than $7,000,000,000, and it provides in addi­ E~~~1t~~~~ of the war, as no longer may be required under present tion for a cancellation of authorizations under which the de­ The committee has no desire to interfere with the equitable and legal partments could further obligate the Government of about execution of such contracts or to abolish or curtail such services as $8,000,000,000. may be vitally necessary to the period of national readjustment, but realizes that large sums placed at the disposal of many departments And in this regard it is perhaps a bill without precedent, and for use during the war now may be covered into the Treasury without let us hope it is a bill that in its magnitude may never need to injury to the public service or the general welfare of the country. be followed in the future. . . The difficulty which some branches of the service may have in making absolutely accurate settlements of accounts at this time il5 When the war was declared against Germany, Congress appreciated, and the committee would be pletl.sell if you would ac­ pledged the entire resources of America to the. prosecution of quaint the various officials of jour office with its purpose, so that that war. to. a successful conclusion, _and following that pledge you may be prepared when calle upon to present the best information Congress proceeded to appropriate from time to time amounts available. in the aggregate greater than had ever been . dreamed of by Following that, informal talks were had with various heads any nation. or any people at any previous time. Of necessity of the departments, and particularly with Army and Navy offi­ many of those amounts had to be voted on short notice and cials. It became apparent at once that these various depart­ largely upon the statement of administrative officers, and par· ments were not in a position to present immediately that sort ticularly upon the statements made by the Army and Navy of financial statement which was almost a necessary predicate Departments touching the needs of the Government. That the to any work that the committee might do; and it required a action of Congress was wise is, to my mind, clearly shown by good many days of constant conference and talk with these the results that :flowed from those appropriations and from the various heads to get financial tables before the committee and conduct of the war. While individuals may quarrel or criticize undertake to show ·the following facts: as to particular achievements or lack of achievements on the First. The amounts that had been appropriated since April part of the Gov:ernment and of various bureaus of_the Govern­ 6, 1917, including any available balances that existed as of ment, it can never be forgotten, and it never will be ignored by that date. · the true historian, that America's weight thrown, ·as it was, ·second. . The amounts that had been expended as of November Lnto the war at the time it was and to the extent it was made 1, 1918. certain the result that has been accomplished [applause], and Third. The contract obligations that the Government had thereby, beyond the belief or hope of any of us, the war 'vas undertaken and which it might be required to meet in full or shortened. If it has been shortened a month or a week or a in part. uay, whatever extra millions might have been voted a,nd spent Fourth. The additional needs, if any, that might confront out of undue zeal were more than paid for in the saving of life, the department for- the balance of the fiscal year. in the ending of this horrible world cata~trophe, and in bringing Fifth: A statement as to what sums, in the judgment of the us to. a point 'vhere the world might look forward to a recon­ various departments, might not now be neces ary and could be struction that would mean a newer and a better and a more covered into the Treasury. . p~rmanent civilization. So I feel that I voice not only my own Gentlemen will find· these various tables printed in the hear­ yiews but the views of Congress and of the country generally, ings as they have been finally revised. They have gone through when I say that we have no apology for the very large sums a number of evolutions, and repeatedly the committee was faced of money that we appropriated under the conditions that con­ with a situation where it would have to postpone a hearing fronted the country at the beginning of the war and up to the until statements might be put into a form that would enable it end of the war. . really to ascertain some of the facts. But j.ust because we did appropriate such huge sums and ap­ And all of this grows out of a situation that has impressed propriated them of necessity with haste, because to have made itself upon me for many years, to which from time to time I an inquiry into the detail of expenditure would have been to have called the attention of the Congress, and which has been defeat the very purpose for which the appropriation was asked­ accentuated to a degree that can not be overstated since the war just because, I say, we did make these appropriations, so now started, and that is the absolutely inadequate and obsolete is it incumbent upon Congress and the Government to see to it method of bookkeeping employed by the Government. The Con­ that expenditures are brought to the narrowest possible extent gress which is to follow this one can perform no greater duty consistent witll the carrying out of the obligations that the to the country than to provide for a rr."Odern up-to-date system of Government has undertaken. And the Committee on Appro­ bookkeeping that shall be uniform in all the departments. I priations, having had in large measm·e thrown upon it the shall not now permit myself to be diverted a to other reforms burden of appropriating much of the e vast sums, peculiarly that are connected with this reform, but if the committee had felt the obligation upon it of now endeavoring to recover and bad brought to it statements conforming to one system of book­ to take .back .appropriations and authorizations that had been keeping, even though it be a bad one, its labors 'vould have been made with a view of the war's continuation and which are not infinitely lightened instead of having constantly to consider all now necessary. sorts of methods of presenting balances and statements of finan­ I doubt if many can realize the tremendous responsibilities cial-accounts; we would no sooner become acquainted with one that were placed upon some of us who by fortune or chance system than we would IJe presented with another that !Ii1ght found ourselves in a position where we had to take the initiative be as good or better, but which represented simply the view of in matters of such magnitude that all previous responsibilities a particular department. We have h·ied in the statements that pale in comparison wi~h them. Speaking for myself, I know are filed in the hearings to present financial statements that in that I have never gone through--and I hope never to go through their general form correspond with each other. again-a year that brought with it heavier responsibilities or Now, it is well that there should be stated to the House a more complete realization of my own inadequate facilities for at the outset what the committee has not done as well as what meeting in the full those responsibilities. And in the days that it has undertaken· to do, because we do not desire that either we were appropriating these many millions of dollars I deter­ the Congress or the departments themselves should misunder­ mined that if a Member of this House when the war should stand the scope of the action taken by the committee, which we cease I would endeavor to ~how as much zeal in .safeguardip.g hope will be ratifieq by the Congress. In recommending the the e:x:penditures of the Government and in covering back into repeal of various appropriations and the cancellation of ntrious 1919. CONGRESSIONAL. RECORD-HOUSE. 2221

authorizations the committee does not mean in any sense or to that they have n·ot been permitted longer to· hav~ the right, any degree to say that in its judgment the sums that are left for the purposes for which the appropriations have been made, with the departments need in their entirety to be expended. to draw upon the Treasury for that amount of money. And, Now, I desire to emphasize that; that as to the moneys that of coUI·se, that does not carry with it the opinion that a casual we ha-ve co•ered back we do not, "by covering them back, say or ignorant observer of Government finances might have, that that the moneys that are not taken back are needed in their we were actually placing that amount of money in the Treasury. entirety. The committee was faced with a task not only Hercu­ Mr. M.A...."'m". Will the gentleman yield? lean, but a task which, if performed in a radical or e~treme Mr. SHERLEY. I yield to the gentleman from illinois. manner, ,yould bring about results very disastrous to the coun­ Mr. MANN. The gentleman says u ignorant people" have try. The obligations of this Government to its citizens and to that impression. Still that is the impression the newspapers third parties and to foreign governments run into blliions of have had, apparently ; and is it not an error in connection with dollars. The committee might have made a paper showing this bill to print a note which reads : greater than what is shown here by radically taking away mon­ Repeal of appropriation,g and autl~orizati.ons. eys that bad been appropriated to the various departments, with Military Establishment: the result of very seriously crippling the 11epartments in the Cash ______$6,844,795,077.50 Authorization ------8, 190, 029, 294. 70 meeting of the just debts of the Government. The committee ------$15, 034, 824., 372. 40 undertook simply to take those moneys that from a survey of the Naval Establishment: situation as of this time were plainly not necessary in order to Cash ------334,361,866.98 Authortzation ------31, 000_, 000. 00 meet the obligations of the Go-vernment, that could not be can­ 365,361,866.98 celed and the Government relieved of, and to carry on the activi­ ties which it must carry on until July 1 next. 15,400,186,239.38 Now, there necessarily came up from time to time questions 'Vould not any educated persons reading that receive the about the GoQvernment's activity in the fu1·ther prosecut~on of same impression? various enterprises undertaken during the war ; and individual Mr. SHERLEY. Perhaps, from the standpoint of people who Members anrl the public generally may want to know why it was are not familiar with the technical use of these phrases in con­ that the committee did not undertake by its action to prevent the nection with legislation; but the gentleman will understand that doing of this thing or the other thing. All that is needed in re­ the committee printed that note in the bill in order that those sponse to that suggestion is a statement, a bare outline, ·of the who are familiar with Government methods of appropriation and problem that 1t would have involved. The moneys that neces­ finance might be technically a.dvised. So we spoke of cash which sarily must be left with the Army and Navy Departments are had been appropriated and of authorizations. so great that any individual enterprise, even though it inYolved 1\:Ir. MANN. If the gentleman had said "appropriation ," it a number of millions of dollars, could be carried on out of those would have been technically correct, but when the gentleman funds without any appreciable effect upon the amount of the speaks of it as cash it is not technically correct. funds as of this time, and therefore if we were to endeavor, by Mr. SHERLEY. Oh, well, if I have not made a greater mis­ taking away moneys, to prevent particular activities being car­ take than that in connection with this very great task I shall be ried on, we would have to go into such a detailed examination happy. of the entire activities as would involve a rigid segregation of Mr. MANN. I do not know. That grave mistake has gone all qtoneys for pUI"ticular purposes. out all over the country, through the newspapers stating that the Now, that is manifestly an impossible task. The Ordnance Committee on Appropriations has recommended that there be Department has 15,000 major contracts ancl 70,000 subsidiary covered back into the Treasury of the United States about contracts. The same is true in less degree of many of the other $7,000,000,000 in cash. That is a tremendous mistake to go out departments. In point of fact, I shoulcl mention whut I had over the country. intended to state in the beginning, that while the committee Mr. SHERLEY. If the gentleman will permit, I do not think started out with the i(lea of making a survey of the appropria­ all the newspapers have carried it that way. tions that had been made to all of the departments of the Gov­ 1\Ir. MANN. All that I saw did. I do not know. I did not see . ernment, it ~on found itself in a position where it would not them alL be able to repOI"t a bill until so near the end of the session as to Mr. SHERLEY. Even the gentleman· does not see them all. imperil its enactment if it undertook so ambitious a program. 1\fr. MANN. I do not see many of them. And so it has confined its recommendations to the "\Var and l\Ir. SHERLEY. I took occasion to explain to quite a num· Navy Depa1"tments, and in dealing with them has dealt with the ber of the newspaper correspondents who came to see me touch­ major problems that confronted the Congress and the country ing the matter just what was meant, and if there has been the touching expenditures. great mistake which the gentleman thinks has been made, I hope Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Mt. Chairman, will' the gentleman the statement now made by me, and the gentleman's statement, yield. there? . will serve to correct it before it does any further damage. The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman from Kentuck-y yield Now, touching authorizations, there has been in the Congress to the gentleman from Iowa? for a great many years, from time to time, the practice of au­ Mr. SHERLEY. Yes. thorizing obligations to be incurred by departments rather than Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Can the gentleman give us an esti­ voting the direct appropriation, in order that we might have in mate of the total expenditures for this year? many ways a more fluid status for moneys in the Treasury, and Mr. SHERLEY. I am going to come to all of that later on, when the last deficiency bill passed Congress just before tile ad­ if the gentleman will permit. journment of the last session the Committee on Appropriations There has been appropriated since the war sta1·ted for the carried the major part of those appropriations in the way of 1\Iilitary Establishment proper $24,235,425,260.35. There have authorizations, because there were some of us in the committee been total -disbursements as of December 1, 1918, of $9,899,057,- who believed that the war was at an end. I personally held that 601.41, leaving a cash balance as of December 1 of $14,336,367,- belief. Yet I was not in a position to act legislatively upon what 658.94. There is recommended in this bill to be covered into the was simply a belief, and it was necessary that the Congress Treasury-to be repealed as appropriations, to speak more ac­ should make provision for the further prosecution of the war, curately-$6,844,795,077.70, which would leave a balri.nce remain­ because in the event that my belief or other people's belief ing to the :Military Establishment of $7,491,572,581.24. sliould be in error the result of a failure to provide wollid be The bill proposes a repeal of 28.2 per cent of the appropria­ disastrous, and it was a responsibility that no man would be tions that have been made for the Military Establishment since willing to take or that the Congress would be willing to take. the war started. As to the authorizations that have been made The result was that we appropriated very large sums of money, for the :Military Establishment and which have not been covered and authorized obligations in still greater sums of money in a by appropriations, they amounted to $8,521,309,662, and of those bill that did not become a law until the 4th day of November, authorizations there is recommended as a repeal by this bill and the armistice was signed just one week later. So it results $8,190,029,294.70, or 96 per cent. that we are able now to cancel t.he very large authorizations Now, it is perhaps wise to make a statement here, not for of which I have spoken. Appropriations for the Military Estab­ the House, which is familiar with the matter, but in order that lishment were originally predicated upon an army of ·a million· the country may not misunderstand the scope of the bill, both men, but that idea rapidly expanded until we were appropriat­ as it deals with appropriations and with authorizations. The ing at the end for an army of 4,850,000 men and, in regard to action of this Congress, if it shall pass this bill, does not mean ordnance, were making provision not only for 80 divisions that we put $7,000,000,000 in cash into the Treasury. It means abroad and 18 at home but a further reserve back of that. It that waiTants upon the Treasury which Congress· has given to follows inevitpbly, therefore, that with the cessation of active the departments in that amount of cash have been taken away; fighting 'abroad and the reduction of the size of the Army Yery 2222 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JANUARY 28,

great urns for pay, ubsistence, transportation, forage, cloth­ sary at various camps and cantonment in connection with the ing, an

l\Ir. SHERLEY. I stated it neither us a belief nor us a hope. , Mr. . FESS. neverting to the subject the gentleman was dis­ I stated it as a statement ma

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i ali horses and mules at that price. I took occasion to inquire I want to say lliis in behalf of the Committee on Appropria.o into it and found that it was not so. Now, I have not the time tions :• That committee has \olunteered to do an amount of work to follow these things down to get accurate information. Of that can not be overstated in connection with this bill, and it course, there are going to be in tnnces in which property will be is not the function of that committee in the slighte t degree to sold at an inexcusable price. I hope they will be few, but I undertake to make itself into a court of inquiry touching va. know what we are dealing with, and when we get into matters rious activities of the department. 'Vhene\er information carne affecting so many people the result is that you get what might to us that seemed to warrant an inquiry we undertook to make be ca11ed tlle run-of-the-mine, and you are going to get just it, but the committee could not possibly attend to its business, that efficiency that the average of American men nill give, or or one-tenth of its business, if it undertook to ·go into all the at least you are not going to get greater than that. activities of the various departments. And that work, if it is Mr. WHITE of Maine. Will the gentleman yield 1 to be done, ought to and could be done by many other com- Mr. SHERLEY. I will. mittees of the House- that have not the respon ibility and the Mr. 'VHITE of Maine. So far as the gentleman knows, has burden of the supply bills upon them that are upon the Com- ·anyone had the temerity to predict what we are likely to· get mittee on-Appropriations: in cash from these salvaged properties? We should adffiire · Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, will the gen· their· courage, but that question has been asked me. tleman yield? l\Ir. SHERLEY. There is nobody that I know of who has Mr. SHERLEY. Certainly. looked at the whole picture: Perhaps the Committee on Ap:.. Mr. MOORE of Pennsyl\ania. I regret not having heard the :propriations has had as many different angles of it presented first part of the gentleman's statement, haYing been in confer­ as almost any other group of men, but gentlemen wlll find run- ence on the tax question. I am very anxious to obtain some ning through these hearings various estimates made by vm-1- information with regard to salvage and' the repeal of appropria· ous individuals as to wliat they think might be salvaged out of. tions. My recollection is that the appropriation bill brought in the property. There was a statement made in regard to eng!- by. the gentleman for war purposes for the cm·rent rear carlied neer equipment, some statement in regard to some railway equip-- $24,000,000,000? ment, which I think has some value, because it is made by a man Mr. SHERLEY. The gentleman's· recollection Is not correct. who speaks with considerable knowledge. Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. We surely have made appro- Yr. WHITE o! Maine. But there has been no effort made to priations equal to $24,000,000,000 for the fiscal year 1919? total those? Mr:." SHERLEY. Yes; 'Ve have mad~ more than that. Mr. SHERLEY. I ha\e not undertaken it; I do not think it Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. But the appropriations shown will be wo1·th the labor. by the gentieman,.s-statement to Congress totaled $24,000,000,000, ~Ir. PLATT. Will the gentleman ~·ield? and those f:lgures~ were confirmed by the Secretary of the Treas- Mr. SHERLEY. I do. m~y, who said that om· expenditures might exceed that amount. Mr. PLATT. Does not the department put an amount of com- SufiseQuently a deficiency bill was brought· in by the gentleman plication upon the purchase of anything that makes. it a pretty carrying- $7,000,000,000 additional of appropt•iations, which difficult matter to get at what you can do? For instance,- I would make-for the fiscal year a total of $3!,000,000;000. Am I wrote to the War Department a while ago to see. if I could'. correct as to that! · buy a typewriter and put in my application to. buy a typeWEiter. Mr. SHERLEY~ Well, the gentleman is correct in a broad, I did not secure it, and after waiting I finally decided' I did general way. He fs quite incorrect in his statement as to how not want it. at the present time. The departments. have got appropliations were made and the Committee on Appropt•iations typewriters to sell, but the thing is so complicated that you making them~ I repeat what. I said a moment ago that thet·e can not go and buy one. 'has been appropriated for tlie Military Establishment since the· lUr. SHERLEY. The problem is neither new nor soluble. It war started~ in the- way of cash appropriations, $24,285,000.000. Js. only bigger because of the. big- figures. It is- one that has. Tn addition tn that. there have been authorizations of a tot:il of always confronted the people in connection with the Govern- $8,521.000,000. Authorizations to tlie. extent of $8,190,000,000 ment, and that is the problem of red tape. Now, some man will are being. cancelled here, so that the gentleman can practically :frequently rail against red tape nnd then eomplain of the in- ignore for present purposes authorizations and deal with twenty­ formal method in. whiclt some. Government official has acted. . four billfons and a quarter. Of that there have been nine billion Whene\er the thing that is done suits· him he is glad the red nine hundred million and odd dollars. spent as of the 1st ot' tape was cut; whenever it does not suit him, then he is quite Decemberr sure that the man ought to be punisheu for disregarding the Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. The gentleman, of course, will rule which is simply another way of saying the red tape of a appreciate tfie importance of these questions. I am seeking in­ department. formation, because we started out to raise $8,000,000,000 by Now, we can talk for the rest of time, but it is going ine.vita- taxation-- · bly to follow that most of the adiustments have to be made 1\Ir. SHERLEY. I thfuk I can answer what the gentleman is through the agencies that cr·eated the obligations. I do. not after, and I stated it a while ago. In my judgment we win see any other possible course. spend somewhere be-tween $18,000,000,000 and $19,000,000,000 Mr. RAGSDALE. I would like to a k the gentleman if he- this year. · has any conception of about- what urn \YaS' expended for and Ml'". MOORE o:1! Pennsylvania. This fiscal year? will be realized in the sal~ of saddles and harness? My in- Mr. SHERLEY. This. fiscal year. formation was that if this war should last 10 years beyond the :Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Ending .Tune 30 next? period o:t time at which the armistice was signed, and we: had Mr. SHERLEY: Ending June 30 next. You gentlemen are used, e\""ery available animal in America that could be used for supposed to bring in a bill that. might produce in the way o:t that purpose, that w~ had saddles and harne s enough to have internal taxation $6,000,000,000 or more, and most ot the re­ lasted for that period of time. And I was just wondering if we mainder would come from tlie proceeds of bond sales. That, in a we1·e going to use the same instrumentalities that purchased nutshell,. is my idea of the situation that confronts the country. that" harness and saddle". f01.- their disposition. · Mr. l\100RE of Pennsylvanhz. I am not seeking to confuse Mr. SHERLEY. I urn neither-prepared to admit nor deny the the gentleman, because he can help us. We were told to raise gentleman's statement as to quantities. The gentleman Win $8,000,000,000~ We are now supposed to be content with $6,000,­ find in the bearings-! can not turn to it immediately-some 000,000, and it has been suggested that $4,000,000,000 would be testimony as to the amount of money that bas been expended :fu sutficient. My proposition is one of simple arithmetic. If we comiection with harness, which wou14 include saddles, by the ha\""e authorized to be spent $24}000,000,000 plus $7,000,000,000, Military E tablishment. But, as I stated a while ago, it is making $31,000,000,000, it appears there should be a very great impossible for me to come to a conclbsion touching a great many salvage and repeal of appropriations or more money must be statements that I hear made. Frequentry they are unwar- raised both by taxes and by loans. ranted, and sometimes they are warranted; and there never Mr. SHERLEY. I do hot think the gentleman can approach has been a time when as much of a tax was put on real judg- the matter from the standpomt of moneys that have been appro­ ment as there is to-day. I think men could very easily spend a p:rlated and authorizations which have been granted. The way good deal of time by running down a lot of things that have no to approach it is figuring on what will probably be spent out ot foundation in fact. On the other hand, there ought to be, and I the Treasm·y during the fiscal year. hope will be, considerable inquiry touching matters upon which Now, I was hoping to· give this to the House in some form tllere is n. reasonable basis to suppose that the. statements con- '•and shape, instead of as the result of questions and answers, but ~erning which al'e warranted and represent conditions that are as long as the gentleman has entered the field perhaps I can unjustifiable. give. him some of the information. ,.. 1919. -:,~~·~CONGRESSIONAL J.iE(JORD~HOlJSE .

Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Before the gentleman does The expenditures t11at have been made so far will be an index that, merely so he can answer the whole thing at once, let me for the balance of the year. "\Ve have expenlled in the first six say that my understanding of the situation is that we author­ months of the fiscal year 1919 $8,570,160,800.43 in the way of ex­ ized the expenditure of a total of $31,000,000,000 for this fiscal penses other than loans to our allies. 'Ve have expendell in the year, and the Government is certainly obligated for that. way of -loans $2,061,986,697.70, or a total of $10,632,147,588.13. Mr. SHERLEY. The Government is not obligated necessarily Now, if we should spend during the last six months of the fiscal by moneys that are appropriated. The Government is affected year the same amount of money that we have spent during the by expenditures that are made within appropriations. first six months, our total expenditures would be over $21,000,- Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. We stood to expend $31,000,- 000,000. But it is to my mind perfectly manifest that our loan~ 000,000 this year. · will practically cease to our allies, and that we have reached the . Mr. SHERLEY. On its face we stood to spend less than that. peak of monthly expenditure. We nre spending now at the rate I have not had the time to check up the actual figures. What of about $50,000,000 a day, and, basing a judgment simply upon I have tried to give the gentleman, if he will just bear with me, the testimony of various individuals in various departments is a statement that for the Military Establishment since the touching their activities, I look to see a constant falling off in beginning of the war there have been about twenty-four and expenditures up to April, and after April a very marked falling one-quarter billion dollars appropriated. I am proposing to oft', because by the first or middle of April we should have take back from them about $7,000,000,000. cleaned up a very large part of our contract obligations, and Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. That would make a saving inasmuch as we have ceased production to a very great extent that would be apparent to anyone, and that is what I am trying the Government's expenses ought to get uown more nearly to get at. toward normaL Mr. SHERLEY. I think it will induce a saving, but it will Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. We are still spending about a not necessarily produce a saving. The gentleman is assuming billion and a half a month, including our loans. that whatever is appropriated will be expended. Mr. SHERLEY. We spent in December, excluding our loans, Mr. MOORE of. Pennsylvania. If we were obligated to ex­ $1,670,890,000, and we have spent this month, excluding loan:;;, pend, or if we appropriated $31,000,000,000, what have we to pay according to the Treasury statement of January 27, $1,415,- it with except $5,000,000,000 raised by loans this year and 000,000, and, figuring $50,000,000 a day for the remaining four $4,000,000,000 that has come in by taxes, a total of $9,000,000,000? days, would make $200,000,000 more, or something over $1,600,- Mr. SHERLEY. I answer the gentleman in this way: I think 000,000 for. the month of January, exclusive of loans. we will have to meet this fiscal year from $18,000,000,000 to Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I think the gentleman will $19,000,000,000. We have raised from loans this year about concede that the total of expenditure in the 8 or 10 months $6,000,000,000. Presumably you gentlemen are going to raise we have been working on the revenue bill trying to raise by internal taxation $6,000,000,000, which makes six or seven $6,000,000,000 or $8,000,000,000, whichever sum may be realized, billion dollars to be paid from the proceeds of other loans and would certainly have a bearing on the amount that we are from other sources of revenue. going to raise by taxes. Now, personally I answer the gentleman's inquiry by this Mr. SHERLEY. Nobody I ever heard of has thought we were statement, as I answered it within five days after the war going to pay our debts this year simply by the money we raised started, and eYery event that has transpired since then has been from taxation. an event to accentuate the wisdom of my statement; and that -l\1r. LONGWORTH. Will the gentleman yield? was that the Congress could not overtax, and would not, and Mr. SHERLEY. Certainly. that the danger all the time would be of undertaking to borrow Mr. LONGWORTH. In view of what the gentleman has sal(} instead of raising by taxation. · And men can talk about the as to the wisdom of providing as much as possible of our ex­ high cost of living until the rest of time, but uBtil the nations penses by taxation, considering everything, does the gentleman of the world cease to feed into the currencies of the world their think it is wise now to decide upon the amount of taxes that promises to pay you will not get rid of the inflation that is we shall raise for the year 1920 without further information as bothering all the world. to what our actual expenses will be in 1920? Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I think the gentleman will see , Mr. SHERLEY. Well, I do not know that I can answer that that I am trying to help him when I try to find out whether it is question. My own belief-and I say it -very soberly-is that necessary to get along without loans or increasing taxes. the Nation for a number of years ahead of us must-face very 1\Ir. SHERLEY. 1\Iy interest is in helping the gentleman in heavy taxation, and that the tendency of every legislative body the way of the determination of taxes, because I remember that the world over is to evade the very disa;greeable duty of levy­ the gentleman was one of those who constantly insisted that we ing taxes, and that it never evades thnt duty by borrowing could pass this burden on to future generations, and ought not without hurting the country. The one great lesson of the to tax too much. Civil War, to which I took occasion to call the attention of the 1\Ir. MOORE of Pennsylvania. The gentleman is mistaken as House when this war broke out, was that it was only at the to that. I stated that we were obligated to pay, and I have not end of that war, practically, that the Congress had the cour­ fet seen how we can pay without raising soi'ne money by taxes. age to tax really heavily. It kept on borrowing and bor­ 1\Ir. SHERLEY. I remember when we discussed whether we rowing and borrowing until the credit of the Government had should raise one-third or one-four by taxation, or a greater sum. gotten to the lowest possible ebb, ancl it only began to re­ The problem that confronts the Finance Committee of the Senate establish the credit of the Nation when it showed a willingness and the Committee on Ways and Means of the House is not how to pay. . much of taxation they can get rid, but how much they can prop­ Now, "W"hat is true of an individual is true. of a nation.. It erly tax, because it is in the interest of the people of America is only by showing a willingness to pay that a man maintains that we should really get out of borrowing and ·as soon as possible his creillt. go on to the basis that all sound going concerns must go on. 1\Ir. LONGWORTH. Is not the argument of the gentleman Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I again say to the gentleman an argument against. the unwisdom of deciding now the total that he clearly misunderstood my attitude, and he evidently amount that we shall raise by taxation for the year 1920, when quotes some other gentleman af the H~use. · we have no idea how mtich our expenditures in 1920 will be? . Mr. SIIERLEY. If I have, I am glad to know it. . Mr. SHERLEY. That might well be an argument against a l\1r. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I am asking these questions, I conclusion as to the amount that ought to be raised rather will say to the gentleman, because the President asked us to than as to the attempt now to plan for it. raise $8,000,000,000 by taxes, and as a loyal citizen and a Mr. LONGWORTH. I do not suppose the gentleman cares Representative I have been trying to get that money where the to give a guess as to what the actual expenses of this Nation President said we must get it. Now, :we are told to get less, and will be in 1920; but without guessing very far the gentleman, I want to know whether by getting less we shall be able to I think, would concede that they will be considerably more pay the debts we h~-ve incurred. That is all. than $4,000,000,000, would he not? Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, you are not going to be able iinme­ 1\tlr. SHERLEY. I think they are likely to b~ more than diately to pay them by getting either the maximum or the lowest $4,000,000,000. sum. Mr. LONGWORTH. Nearer to $8,000,000,000 or $10,000,000,- .Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I have given the reason why I 000, does not the gentleman think? sought the information from the gentleman. . Mr. SHERLEY. No; I would not say nearer $10,000,000,000 Mr. SHERLEY. I am not quarreling with the gentleman. _ If than $4,0000,000,000, unless you gentlemen run more riot than I had not been intel'l'upted I think I would have been able to I think you wilL give it in one-third of the time, arid I think I have given it now Mr. LONGWORTH. We will try to quell the riot to some three times by summary. ex_tent. 2226 CO~GRE~SJO~AL RECQRD-_ HOTI&E. JANUARY 28,.

t l\ir. SHERLEY. · I wns gi\"ing you that benefit. So I say I 'extra pay amounts to about' $1G3,000,000. Of cour e, if that clo not think our expenditUres in 1920 will go neal.·er to· $10,000,- sum shouid be· rnerea ·ed tly action of Congre ·s in voting two 000,000 tbnn to $4,000,000,000. 1month's extra pa~ it "oufd amount to over $300,000,'000, and if ~Jr. LONGWORTH. But does 'not the gentleman think- it wa.s- increased. to · months, as sugg steer by some, it would' 3Btl be is guessing, US we all must guess-that it is tfie l\efgtit be :Ippro:ximatel'y" $900;00(),000. - of omvisdom now to pass a revenue law raising a gi-ven amount Mr. S~fiTH of Michigan. Will the gentleman yield'l- of money when we believe-the gentleman and I oelie\e, · at" Mr. SHERLEY• . CeJ;tainly: least-that that amount will not come within 50 per cent ot - :Mr. S'MITK of 1\fichfgan. Would the increase of pay of the paying the total expenses for the year 1920. In other words~ ·Army for an extra montll: include the officers:? would it not be better to wait until 1920 and see how mucll. , Mr; SHERLEY: - Yes; the increase· of a month's pay in the tax-es ought' to be raised? figures I have given would include the payment of' both officers Mr. SHERLEY. The gentleman knows t:hat I am a. modest and men. man-- The committee nru!ertook fn regard· to all the various items j\fr. LONGWORTH~ All the truly great are modest. under the Quarte.cmaste:rs Department to get submitted to us M'r. SHERLEY ~ And that I have a great d~l more to do a statement somewhat in detail as to the amotmt of money that than I can attend to in- regard. to the appropriating end., It lias been appropriated, that had' been allotted for a particular ha been a. consolation to me to know that the_gentleman was purpo e, and the amount-that had; been. expended. And a table on tlle committee dealing with the taxing end. [Applau~.] was made up as of the· 1st. of November of the amount neces- lUr .. MOORE of Pennsylvania. May I ask the gentreman what sary to expend for the balance. of' the year. These tables amount of appropriations is repealed by this deficiency bill? · were under· Yarious items, such as "Reguiar supplies," "'Vater Ur. SHERLEY. The report gives it to you in detail. and sewers," " Roads, walks,. and drainage," and " Incidental ~Ir. l\IOORE of Pennsylvania.. I was. not sure whether it expenses," "Army transportation," "Clothing," and "Equipment." wns-- · Gentlemen will finropriations and O\er-$8,000,000,000 of authorizations.. many instances is. not now eurrent, but 1t was presumably cur- ~lr. 1\lOOREof Pennsylvania. Ii>oes. that mean $15,000,000,0001- rent at the time tlie testimony wns given. ::\fr. SHERLEY. It means. of appropriations and authoriza- .As a result of the hearings. we had the Quartermastei·• De- lions, $15,000,000,000. partment take their. original tables and revise them according Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. A total of· $15,000,000f000? to what

1\Ir. SIIERLEY. I just stated that, as to the ordnance people, said they hall just been to Wa hington-the b;uck manufuc~ they tated that they needed 75 per cent of the face of their turer. -and they had fixed up theil' matters and were going to · obligations. If the gentleman will examine the various financial manufacture trucks for the Go\"ernment until abnut the 30th of sheets printed, he will cutch it ren.di1y. What was done is that June. He said that the tbousn.nds of them th-at were in France they presented a table of the amount of cnsh they have been would be scra}1ped oYer there and neve1· returned to tllis cotmh·y, .authorized to spend. and also that there were 9,000 at the present time stored out hel'C It would be well just to forget the authorizations because we near Baltimore in a field. have practically wiped out all of the authorizations, and what Mr. SHERLEY. All I can say in re ponse to the gentlemun we did not wipe out have been taken care of by appropriations Is that I have no other information thnn that whi-ch is -contain~d which have been made, converting them from authorizations in the hearings. To my mind it would be absolutely inexcusable Into appropriations. They hn.d so much cash, they had spent for the GoY·ernment to go into the manufacture of additional so much as of a given date, and that left them a balance of trucks eYcept as manufacture may mean the finishing of work so much. Against that balance were obligations of such amount that has .already gone to .such an extent that not to finish it and reservations as I have spoken of. Those obligations and would be more wasteful in that you would get nothing of \"alU l'eservations frequently represented a sum v~ry greatly in excess and would get less snll"nge than if you finished it. or llie avaHn.ble cash left, but when you cut 25 per cent of the 1\fr. SJ\TELL. With so eommon an article as a motor truck, it contract oblign.tion off and 85 per cent of the reservation off it would eem to the :aver·age ma.n that you could stop manufacture left nn runount considerably under the cash that was available. of it inside of seven months after the at·mistice was signed. That amount taken from the cash available left the amount of l\Ir. HERLEY. I should be \"ery much surprised if it de­ appropriation that we could repeal, except as a corps might . velope' that the truck manufacturers were to carry on any need additional moneys fol' the balance of the fiscal year, and governmental manufacture on n 1arge scale for a period as late when that was taken away it gave you the net which we carry , as that. in this bill. In regard to the nrdnance it represents, as also Mr. S~lELL. That is the way it impressed me, and I was tlle quartermaster, practically their revised statements by wondering if the Committee on Appropriations had any defi­ which they n.re willing to stand. · nite opinion along this line. There is nothing in this; I huve Mr. SNELL. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? ­ looked through it and it does not give definite information. Mr. SHERLEY. Yes. Mr. SHERLEY. The gentleman will notice in reference to 1\Ir. SNELL. Does the gentleman know whether the con­ the Quartermaster's Department we had that hearing first. tracts for motor trucks have been canceled, or are some firms Mr. S"J\~LL. I notice, two months ago. still making them for the Government? . Mr. SHERLEY. And a good deal nf time has passed. since 1\lr. SHERLEY. The gentleman will find a statClllent about then working as fast as we could and I have not been in­ that made by Goo. Wood. They have canceled a great ronny of formed of any such situation as the gentleman speaks of. them, and Gen. 'Vood stated that they were not going to mann­ Mr. &'fELL. I think that is a matter that is worthy of ntten­ facture any that had not been begun; that only where the work tion. had Ilrogressed to a cert.a.in extent that it would require com­ :Mr. SHERLEY. I think .the gentleman can easily verif.v pletion did the quartermaster propose to continue, :and that thnt and very quickly, .and the way to ,.eri:fy it is to call up they had sugge ted to the ordnance people that they also shut either the Secretary of War, the Assistant Secretary of 'Var, or down on all such work, and the ordnance people have testified the Traffic and Storage people. who ought to be able to give g-eneraly that they are going forwnrd with no work where the definite information touching that. physical conditions -of the work do not make it advisable in 1.\Ir. DENISON. Will th-e gcntl~man yield'? their judgment to complete a thing rather than to scrap some­ 1.\Ir. SHERLEY. I will. thing t11at scrapped would have no value whateve1·. Gen. Wood l\Ir. DENISON. Does t11e War D"partmcnt hn.ve absolute and nlso testified that the automobile people had kicked a good deal unlimited authority in the quE>.stion of salvage? against the curtailment of their orders, but thht that was their Mr. SHERLEY. 'Vcll, It has the authority contained in the policy, and as fast as they could relie\"C the Govet·nment they statute which I read a while ago to the co'nllnittee. were goiDJ: to do it. · Mr. DENISQN. I happened to be out of the Chamber at til~ Mr. SNELL. Are not these trucks standard, so that pru·t. moment could be used in the regular manufacture of hel!.VY trucks? l\1r. SHERLEY. It is pretty broad authority. Mr. SHERLEY. Of course, they could be, except for an atti­ Mr. DENISON. I asked the gentleman the question because tude of mind of the American peopte and the Amel'ican manu­ I noticed in to-day's paper the Quartermaster's Department were facturers. The average American manufacture1· wants to make selling something like a thousand mules over here in Bultimly their own needs, and an effort market is, and those mules that were sold at Camp Meade will has been made to assemble gradually all of the trucks under be bought by speculators, put on a train and shipped to the the Motor Truck Division, but ont in the camps and canton­ cotton States, and sold nt n great big profit, and I think that is ments there are a good number of trucks and .automobiles of what the Governmen-t <>ugllt to ha\"e done with them. which they have not here a complete innmtory, and they are Mr. SHERLEY. I um not quite sure the Government ought .undertaking to get that now. to do it. l\1r. SNELL. Does the gentleman 1.""llO\V whether it is the fact Mr. DE!','ISO.r . If they wanted to get real salvage. that there arc 9,000 over here ncar Baltimore inn field? Mr. SHERLEY. I am not o· sure of that. Theoretically that 1\Ir. SHERLEY. I do not. work · out \"ery well, but by the time you got the Go'Vernment Mr. SNELL. I have been informed that is so. org-J.nization following the mules down with the overh-ead it l\lr. SHERLEY. I know that there are a great many more more than eats up what you get us an additional :price. I .am trncks than tbc Government has any possible need for. anxious that the Government should .get out of business. I do Mr. SNELL. I heard a man make that statement yesterday. not believe that we nre going to gain -very gren.tly by assuming :n.Ir. SHERLEY. I think that the truek manufacturers hnve ' that the Government can run a thing with the close -economy that been very insistent thnt the Government should not sell trucks a man who is in that particular busine s alone can. I ·suspect in large quantities, because it would smash their market. That if we could follow the bookkeeping, which you never can, we is just one of the problems that confronts the Government right would find that by the time we paid for everything, inctudlng the ~long. men kept in the service because of this, that yo11 would make .a. Mr. SNELL. I heard this statement made the other day by a poor bargain in having the military organization take mules. ·gentleman who was not tnlh.~g to me, or rather I overheard it, down .South and sell Ut~m rather tlum sell them here. Now, I And I do not think that he lmew that I was a Congressmnn. He tlo not know much about it. I huvc ucn.>r been a mule trader. -2228 -CONGRESSIOXAL RECORD-HOuSE. JANUARY 28,

)lr. S~"ELL. I entirely agre 'nth the gentleman's statement, or three pretty hard ,,-eek with the Navy. We could not nu

1\ow, gentlemen, thi. ·, I 11 1ie¥c, has resulted· from the com­ l'ifie. At the ._arne time we know -tlln t a number of l'ifle~ aJl(l mittee'::;. labors: In tho first vlace,. if our action meets the ap­ rifle ban'Cl' lun·c reached a stage of completion wht.>re it will proval of the Cong1.·e~s, we will have taken away the possibility be almost a dead loss if they are not completed. Query: Is it of <'Xpenilituee jn Ute am-ount which I have indicated. It may provided in the gentleman's bill that conti·acts like tba.t ~hall he be :u1swerct1 by some that th departments would not have canceled, stopping the manufacture of rifle barrels, for inst.ftnc-c, ~pent the ·c sums anyway. That may or may not be accurate. \There the manufacture is already proceeding, junking tbe ri.tle Bnt when you take it away, you remove any doubt. But over banels, and then in the Army bill thl · year or next year provide nml beyond all that. the Yaluc of the committee's work bas been for buying those very same dfles? thi.·: That for tho: fir. t time in many, many years the depart­ .Mr. SHERLEY. No~ we do not undertake to compel action ments have been l'e(!Uired to throw into a financial sheet a in any given instance. Take the illustration. They have so stat(Nllent of the moneys that have been given to them, and the many rifle contracts. They e timatc that they can relieTe them­ money · that . have been expended. and the moneys that were selves of a cortain quan.tity, and thnt they will have t& accept a¥ail.rtble; and officer after offic-er has stated that tlle examina­ the balance. They have n table a ·to the number of rifles of the tions '\vhicl.t they have been compelled to undertake have brollght modified Enfield pattern which they expect to get under this about a knowledge, a clarity of vision, as to their situation and program. The same applie · to otbet· orfidency to be the problem, practically,. is not a problem of getting something taken care of in the futur for the accounts of 1918 under this that you should have, but of getting rid of obligations for things particular item? that you have already got in quantitie ufficient; and in prac­ 1\fr. SHERLEY. Toore will probably be some items that will tically every instance the Government ought to measure its still come in for those fiscal years, but this does not mean that cancellation · by its abHity to cancel. we have tak-en all the money that they had from th-ose ye~ Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Chairman, "ill the gentleman yield? but that we simply have taken that am-ount that they feel cer­ : Mr. SHERLEY. Yes. tain they ~n give up as not being needed to meet any bUL<:; or l\Ir. MADDEN. In taking back the appropriations whlch the ob.llga tions incw·red in those fiscal years. . committee recommends t.9 be ta)ren back, will it be necessary, l\1r. 1\IANN. You are getting it down to a pretty fine point- as the result of that, to reappropriate the amount that will be 8 cents in an item of $32.000,000. Of course, I know how those :found to be due when the contracts are adjusted 'I tbings come. l\lr. SHERLEY. In my opinion there is not a single instance l\Ir. SHERLEY. Those items of odd cents come by taking whcro we have taken moneys away in such quantity u not to certain items of balances. leave a balance that ought to be amply sufficient to take care Mr~ l\IANN. I know how tbey come; but I did not know of the department's needs in meeting its obligations and it whether that was a complete balance. There is nothlng to in· Jl,ece ities for the balance of the fi cal year. dicate whether it is. a whole or a part balanc~. 1\fr. MADDEN. That is not exactly what I said. Mr. SHERLEY. It is not a complete balance, but it is an Mr. SHERLEY. I mean obligations and contrac-ts. amount in connectio~ with certain things for which they will Mr. MADDEN. I mean readjustments. not have to make an expenditure, ancl therefore give it up. It 1\Ir. SHERLEY. I mean that, too. I rn~an it ought t.o !}e able is predicated upon that basis. I would have to look at tbe to pay its debts and maintain it lf until July 1 _on the moneys bearings for that _particular item. tl1at arc Jeft. Mr. MANN. I am not inquiring about particular items. l\lt·. TILS-ON. .:\Jr. Chairmnn, will the gentleman yield 1\Ir. S.HEitLEY. Now, in connection with the deficiencies further? that are in the bill, most of them of any magnitude relate to Mr. SHERLEY. (;e1·tainly. the Navy, and I shall be glad, when any e.f them are reached. to M1·. TIJ, ON. I wish to ·ubmH thi · tatement to iho gentle­ give to the Committee of the Whole any information that I man: The Ordnance Department wns befOI'e our committee the may have touching the reason for them. otbc-1· day nnd a kctl f&r nn nmount of money to eontinue the The dclicieneies that relate to the War Department amount mamtfacture of the 'priugtie1d rifie. as it was intended that that to $6,400,000. Of that 'lUll, $4~000,000 is in regard to the tem- · shoultl l>e our rifle hereafter, aull n.sketl that we should continue p()l'ary. clerk.' in th(' \Vm· Department. They e ·timate

a. cet·tainment touching many matters reported on in· the bill, l\fr. SNYDER. Bn.t sufficient to recoYer what your committee but there is nothing here contained that· is not conceded, not considers will be a fair aclju tment of these amounts? · ahYays in the first instance, but conceded as a· result of exami­ J.Hi·. SHER-LEY. Unquestionably; · Not only will that be so, ·nation by the sarious departments affected to be proper, and, in but as I said a moment ago I think they 'will be· more than my judgment, this proposed enactment can not in the slightest' sufficient. degree hamper the Government in going forward in the settle: l\f.r. SNYDER. I do not rec~ll _ hearing the gentleman state ment of its debts and in maintaining the various corps of the in his argument that it covered that particular thing. Army and Navy for the balance of the fiscal year. If we have Mr. SHERLEY. If I did not directly state it I did by infer­ erred, we haYe erred on the side of conservatism, and I wish, in ence, because I stated in rega1;d to the-Ordnance Department conclusion, to again express the hope that these sums which 'Ye that they were surrendeling 25 'per cent of the face of their are now taking back shall not by any means represent the total obligations, and I think_they ought to be able to make adjust­ . ·a ying of amounts heretofore appropriated or authorized, but ments on a bigger scale. The Quartermaster's Corps, in connec­ that the departments in working out the settlement of their tion with cotton goods·and other matters, have made settlements obligations and by the curtailment of their activities may save that wUl1:epresent more _tnaD: 25_per ce1;1t ot saying on the face of sums of very great amount. I hesitate to suggest the amount, their contracts. All the departments presenteu estimates as to hut I can not but believe that if a determination to forego the the extent they would be able to cancel conh·acts and relieYe the tloiug of everything that is not strictly necessary is followed and Government of obligations, and tl!e amouyts left w.i.th them they, good busine s judgment is used in the adjustment of contracts concede as sufficient to .meet the obligations that can not be can­ the amount here carried can be augmented by a Yery consiCler- celecl ·and also their future needs to July l. [Applause.] uble sum. · , l\lr~ Chairman, under leave to · extend my remarks, I submit · 'l\Ir. SNl.""DER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? herewith tables. showing the sums appropriated, expended, and Mr. SHEllLEY. Yes. - amounts stated as no longer needed for the Yarious division of l\11·. SNYDER. I \Yould like to ask the gentleman if in con­ the l\Iilitary and Naval E. tablishnients. An examination or sidering the amounts left in the War and Navy Departments these will make plain many matters I was unable to

Statement of military appropriations made 8in~c Mav 12, 1917, as of Dec. 1, 1918. [Parentheses indicate ·negative figures.] . SIGNAL CORPS . Disbursements Obligations in­ Estimated addi­ Balance of Titles. Appropriations. made to Dec. I, curred prior to tional cash needs appropriatio::t t{) balance fiscal 1918. Df! f!rtA!f!i_ year .1919. not required.

Sig:llal en· ice of the Army, acts 'July 9 and No...-. 4, 1918- _____ ·- __ .... : _...... _ $155,946,054.77 !22,640,790. 22 1145,507, SM. 51 2 $4, 424, 200. 00 l $83, 373, 20J. ().! Seacoast defense, Signal 'Service, act Jt1ly 8, ·191 . _-_-_:- :: _...... -••...• : •••••• -.. __ 1~,000.00 3 31,613.83 3 148,224.88 161.29 Seacoast defense, insular possessions, act July~ 1918 • . ______.. ___ ..••.• ~ ·- __ __ 15,000.00 a 1,190.44 s 7,224.56 6,585.00 , eacoast defense, ignal Service, Panamaj act July 8, 1918 ..•••••••.••.••.. _. _. ·15, 000.00 •• _••. ___ ...... 31,901.96 13,098.04 Washington-Alaska military cable and te egraph system, act July 19, 1918__ __ _ 147,445.00 27,414.19 '87,516. 81 32,514..00 Commercial telefhone system1 ·eoast Artillery posts, act July 9, 1918 ______.•.•. 15,150.00 3 4, 459_ 29 a 10,690-71 ~~~~gS~a~~smw~sandeq~p~L-·-·-··-··---·-·-···-·-·······~---M~,-~_7_.n_ 1~--·-_·_··_·_··_·_··_·_·_··-·~·---~-~-7_~_._~-t·--_-·_·_-_·_~_-;_i_~_:_~--~~--_::_:_::_:_:_:_~_·:_:_::_: TotaL _____ ·- ___ ._-·- ____ - __ -__ -_--··: ·-.··; ·:: .. --.-.·-·-.·-._- ___ .... -·-·- 156,3~2;937.50 -I 22,705,467.97 l 45,765, 133. 41 4., 509, 135.08 83, 373, 20:>. 04

DIVJf?ION OF MILITARY AERONAUTICS.

Air &>rvice, military, acts July 9, No•. 4, 1918 ______... ______-· .•. __ • _..... _... 1184,,304,, 758 .. 00 , ___!_53_-.'_254_-_ .'.806 ••• ·.40.·- __ •_Wi_••' _05_"_o_,_ooo___ -_o_J__ , ~ S23 ,, 467,,~ .. 42 161, 532, 925. 18 A nation stations, seacoast defense, act July , 1918.- _..• __ .•... :. -··. ••• •••••. 8 000 000 00 8 000 vvJ 00 t------l------1------· : ------~------Total.. .. _. _. __ . __ . _·-· _.... - _. -·-.-.-. ___ . _... _... ____ ... _. _. ·-- ______. 1~,3W, 758.00 I 53,254,806.40 46,000,000.00 1· 31,467,026.42 61; 532, 92}. 18

BUREAU OF AIRCRAFT PRODUCTION.

Air Seni~ (Production), act July 9, 1918 ___ , _.. ___ • -- ... _. _...... _•••.• - _ S700,000,0oo.OO I $34,490,492.11 $225,251,843.63 1• $100, 257,66!.26 $400 000 OOJ OJ Increase for Aviation, Signal ~rps, act July 24, 1917. __ ---.- _. __ ...... 640,000,000.00 522,161,120.38 7 117,838,879.62 .•.•••.•.. _·-. ·-·: ...... '•... : ··-: __ Signal Senice of the Army, acts May 12, Jm1e 15, Oct. 6, 1917 _. -·· _. •• :...... 99,067,766.00 81,596, ~46. ~ . 15,471,019.W ·-···-··-- _. _····- 2,000,00J.OJ TotaL ____ ... -._._._._-. ____ ... ___ . _. _.. ___ .. _•...... _.. __ . _•...•...•..•. l--l,-4-W-,-06-7-,7-oo-.-oo-- II---~--.~--.-~~9-.-4-7- I -~~~.-M--t,-7-~-.-~- :~---1-oo-,-~-7-,-6M--.26--I----~--,~--,-o-o-J.--ol

QUARTERMASTER CORPS.

0 3 9 4 Gen~;~~&~f:_i~~~~: -~~-~~~~S:_t~~-~~~-~ .'_~~~~ -~~-~. :.~~~:. .'.~~~~=..•... ~ -- $985,859,485. OQ $138,275,313.40 $81,134,713.53 $65,840,704.35 $700, 603, 753. 72 261,914, 072. 03 28,474,246. 81 909,142,497.93 ~t~~~~= :=::==:: :=: := ===: =::::: =:;: ::::: :::::::::~~~=:==:: '· m1~1~u ,iimi~ ~ 11 ~1in ·~~mJI~~ 32,551,814. 89 908,303,821. 82 54,555,597.77 34,130, 690. 20 E~~il'!~::::::::::==:=::===:~:::;~;~:~~~:~:~~::== '·:~~m~~u i:!~!H ---~:i~~~;~- ~;m~~~ 1, 726, 700_ 18 Roads, walks, wharves, and draina_ge ...... ··-· ...... _. 35,117,175.00 14,814,124,61 10,096,051.17 3,638,201. 00 6, 568, 795. 22 Barracks and quarters, Philippine 1Sl:mds ...... • ·-.•.• ··-.. .• • .•••.•.•.. 500,000.00 22,335.97 314.90 4.77,34.9.13 Construction and reparr of hospitals .. _... __ ....•.•... _..•••• _•••. __ ·-.... 166,469,930.00 17,974,051. 34 77,310, wL 96 8, 995,812. 82 ·-•• 62;189;503: 88 .. Quarters for hospital stewards.- ...... •...... •.•.••••... ·····-···-·-· 66,600.00 16,674.75 216, 25 23,£40.00 26,063.00 ~~~:eerl~~:W~~ne,;e~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~:: ~ ~ ~::::::: :::::::~::::::::: :::::: ~: M8: ~ ~: ~~: ~ 1,01i:~ i: 19g:~ gg . (1, 355,514. oo> Rent ofbuildiiigs, Quartermaster CQrps .. ··-. -· ...... ••..... _.... ·-· __ .. 100,015.00 s,ooo.oo ···--····--··----- 55,209. oo ·-······ "36;sofi:oo- Claims for dalnage to and loss of private property •• ········--· ..•.....•.. _ . 30,000.00 ••••••••••••••••.• ·----··· ······-··- 18,000.00 12,000. OJ 1 $1,491,729.87 turned over t{) the Motor Transport ~rps not used and released by that corps. . . 2 General equipment (photographic eq~pment), $200,cm; communication eq~pment (pigeons, $110 000; special telephone and telegraph equipment, $200,000), $310,00J; maintenance (all applicable to commercial telev.hone service and leased lines, United States), $1 750,~; maintenance and operation in Unite

tatcmcnt of mi1it!wy «Pl>ropt·i-atinns made sitwc May L , 1JJ11, !18 of Dec. 1., 191 on tinned. QUARTERJ.\I.ASTER CORPS--Continued. . . Disbursements Jlal:l.UCC of T itles. made to Dec. 1, appropriation 1'918. no required.

Gen~~~r~ii:~~~~~~~~~~~~'-~-~:.:~!:.::~~:~.~-:~:~~~: S7~, ooo.oo 7,900.75 m ,a55. a7 ·- --········· .. ·· ($27, 262. -u) Rifle ranges for civilian instruction._~...... • . . • . .• . • •• . . . . tO, 000. 00 90 \1 999 10 Quartermaster snpplies,~!flr;:nt• etc . ,Reserve O:ffic&S' Training Corps._ 2, 7.88.,096. 00 3..>~, 62i 15 ·-·· · ·· 1·;425: 79' '2,861; 79S: 02 ...... (443; 749:96j tpuutermaster SUJ>j;ilies, · eciulpmep.t , schools and colleges~~ ._·- ·.. 45,505. 00 443. 40 · · 2.i :!l4, 173• .35 1------~------~l------~----~--~r------Totru. •• ······ · ····················~······ · ······························ s,.m,on,ssa.oo 173,640,271:.00 137, 401,·003...35 9~ ,65 5 , 20.Ul 2, 996,4.14.761.H i~~~~~~~=+==~~=F~~==~~~~~ Pay, etc., ortho Army , act:.~ 12, J'une 15, Oct. 6, 1917; 1uly D, Nov.-. 4., :lill8.. ' 3,199,696,318. 44 1, 287, 197.1\405 . .24 -·------· ...... 1,257, 9.U, OOL 52 1 ~ .55~;911. 6S su:rJl~ :rna~:~~- -~:~~~~~-~~·-~~:.~-~~--~~~~~:~~:~:. . 2,913,979,'i94."52 2,75{,365,3&1.31 152, 642, 952. 76 a6,on, Mileage to officers and contmet surgeons, Jlcts May 12, June 15, ect. 6_, 1917; Mar. 28, July 8. Jnly_~.-.Nov. 4;, llU8- -·------·- ·-·-·-..- ~ ... ·-·- ··-- 19, 7Sl,109; 1.2 ll, 734, 38&. 01 o K• 0 • • ,. , ., ., o, • • , s, 0!6, 721,11 ~ 0 , • 0 - , ~- 0 0 0 0 0 Horses for Cavalry, Artiueryi Engineers, acts J'une15, May 12, Oct •. 61 1917 .. · - 65,400,000.00 29,146, 797.85 4,082, 246.07 ...... 32,U0,956. Barracks and quartets, acts une lli, May 12, Oct 6, 1917; Mar. 28, Jmy-8, 1918. 188,938,91 . 52 161,756,158. 14 24, 200,673. 02 2, 982, 087. 36 .· ...... Roads, walks,. wharres, ami drainage_, e.cts Aug. 15; !Lay 12, Oct. 6, 1917~ M&. 1 34,503,369.00 25, 603, 195. 56 6,892, n2. 91 2,007,460.64 ...... li3t?~~ !~1iftnge;,8Cti1Uiie-li..ifui-"i27oct.-6;iiii7~"Ma"r·.·i8;1UiY·s.~ffiiB. 1,549,820.88 1, 281,009. 26 287, G6L 92 ...... ~-. (18, 850. .30) Construction_an.d repair ofhospitals,.acts 1un.e 15, May 12~ Oct. 6,1917;.Kar..8, July 8,.1918. • ,._ __ •• ~-·- • "" •••• •-• •-•• • •., ---••• L •~•~ "'"' • ~- "'"'" •-·- 5'i, 309, 82!. 30 10,~8 ~ 00 . 3;.473',9:i2. 70 · ...... Civilian military tmin:ing camps, aats June 15, May 12, Oct. 6-, t9l7; Jllly s. 1918. 8,..316, 998..18 339., 72.:1. 41 - •. - ·~·· · ..... -. 244, .272. 41 Quartermaster-8upplies, equipment, etc., Reserve O.fficers' Training Corps'"actS' . May 12, 1917•••-••·•ou•o .. • - -•oooooooOMO-o . • -••-••• ~-·· ···-•••••••••- · · ·· - 4,385,000.00 991,784.. '12 237,320.81 3,156,~.117 flbooting galleries an.d ranges.! acts May 12, Oct. -6, 191'1; Mar. 281 1918 •.• ~- ·-­ r. 043, 540. 00 3,576, 245. 49 f-20, 758. 55 ' 3,,001,535.96 Rent or buildings, District ox Columbia, acts May 12, Oct. 6, 1917; J'uly"B, 1918. 79,250.10 69,096.03 10,004.07 150.00 Disposition ofremains of officers, soldiers, and civil employees, acts.J'uly 8, 1918; 1unel5, 1917; Oct. 6,.1917; July 1, 1918; Nov. 4, 1918 .... ~ ~ -~...... 1,620, 274..52 1, 014.246.37 26,651.72 "-9 376 43 Inland and port storage and shlpping facilities, acts Mar. 28, 1917; July 8-9, 19lB 2!R 000 000.00 146,134,316.18 64,103,016.49 36,736:667:33 .• "5o;o26;ooo:Oir ~~-·-··-··-~········~~- -~ · ···-~---··~·--···-· - ····· ~12-,,-~--.-~---~-0-.-10~ --5-, 2-~~.~~.~1-l-5.-~~-1-,-~-~~~-6~,5-7-L-~--~2-.-~~~~~~.-~-2-.-0-3~3-,1-I-0~,3-~~.4-5-~-~~

1. Balance or appropriation ofS654.l'i51,911.68nnt r-equired. Is out of the amounts t>rovided in the acts ot July 9, 1918, and Nov. 4, 1918. 2 This includes a saYing ofll6.969,01IU2 effected by the cancellation of contracts lor horse-drawn vehicles. · a This includes 3250~000,000 which the United. States Treasury has transferred for the payment of troops overseas. MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.

Medical and.hospHal: Act Yay 12,1917 ····- ······· · · · ·-~···~ ~~··· .... ··~·····- - ...... ~,.·-· 1,000,000. 00 1 1!,000,000.00 ...... • • Act Junel5.1917•••• ~~ --··········· ...... , •••••••••• ~~·-~·-· .. ••• .. ··~··u· 29,780,000.00 127,226, 7!n.51 l2,ssa:2i:6~49 :: :: ::::~::::::::: ::::-::::~ ::~:::::: Act Oct. 6, l911-~-~·············---··--" ...... ~ ·-- 100,000,000.00 1100.000, 000.00 ...... ~ ·-··~ · -· • Act July 8, 191L--·-···~-···-····· - ···-················· .. ········-·····: 33,ooo,ooo.-oo 112,868,602.66 19,845,400.65 ·····i285,003:o9· :::::::::::::::::: Act Jnly 9, 1918 •• - ..~··········-~·-·-····· - ····-·· -·~·-··- ··· -·-- %267,.408,948. 00 1112,126,069.35 101,137,364.92 ...... $54,145,513. TJ Act Nov. 4, 1918•••••••• ~·-······ .. ···········-·········· ·--...... "30,000,000. 00 ...... _...... - ~... 17,824; 556.21 l:2; .t75,·443: 79 ...... Total...... ~ ••••.••.••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ·-··· . -~~ •••• - _I--4-6-1,-L-ii8,__ 94_8-.-00-I--l 253---. 22~1-,455---. 5-2-1---1-41-,-3-60-, -63-1-.-27-1 ---12-,~4!-6...:1,-3-4-7.-4-8-I-~,-5-4-,1-45-,-5-13-.~7J

1 Disbursements made to Nov. 1, 1918. • 2 or this amount 569,250,000 was transferred to Chemical Warfare Service; disbnrsrul and accounted !or by thom; $25,825,000 was transferred to Mol.QJ.· Transport. Corps, disbursed a.nd.accounted or .undeJ: Quartermaster. appro:pr.i.a.ti.ons:.. · 'The estimated additional cash needs are as follows; t.. American Expeditionary Forces disbursements.-·-····· ...... $5,000,000.00 .5. Hospitallaundry...... ~ ...... ~···· ...... S1 ,82J,OOO.OO 2. Prin.tingan.d bindJng...... -...... 486,650.00 6. Addltionalsupplies, drugs, etc•••••.....••.••. •..••....•. . •. ••.•.• 2,914,975.49 3. Employees,civilian,pa.y...... - •• ···- 1,000,000.00 !to Chilian medical Servtce• •• ·- · · ··- -·· .. ~ ·-~--~~- ····-··········.. ••• 1,21», m.oo I Total ...... : ...... - ...... 12,.41i1,347.4'S CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

0 liligutlons in­ Estimated addl­ Disbursements curred prior to tionru:cash needs Balance of Titles. Appropriations. made to Dec. 1, Dec. 1, 191R, to appropriation 191 balance fiscal not required. be fulfilledr year~919.

~ngfneer operations in the field: ' ~918, acts May 12,• ..fane 15.1_9.9t. 6, 11111; Mar. 23, 1918...... $350,800,000. 00 1314,621,372.10 S29,622, 158.30· $500,000.00 16,056, · 89.00 ~,J!:~ ~~~e!{~~~.J..l!.la.. ••• ·---· ·-·······--··· - - - · -······· · .. •••• l,Q18,.2ro,OOO.OO 97,27, 794.83 .324,952,687.61 16,422,474.• 84 579,591J,0.12. 72 • 1918, acts May 12, Jone 15, Oct. 6, 1917.. ••••_ ...... · - · · .. ~ ·--·-- . 49JI50,000.00 48,8~208 . 02 3,164,526.97 500.00 (2, •11,234. 99) 1919, actlnly ~918~····· ··· · · · ··· ··-~ - ··· · ·····~· · · -····~ ~ -·· - · ··· 05,000,000.00 1,265,269.42 8,665,649.43 3,536,1H.99 126,532,1166.16 t ------:------~1 ------~------~r------Total •••••.. • _ -~ - - -- ·-··· . . ..• . - . • •...... •.•• ... '"- · . • . . . . . • ...... 1, 5il3,'200, 000. oo j -461, 991,6#. 37 '361, 405,022.31 2-20,459,089.83 712,18.\ (18.48 \. t.Obligationsin.curred prlw to Duc.l, 1918, to bo fultliled:_ Chargeable to- · JCbnrJ=::ioperatlon.s in. the fie~ 1918_, general . Engineer equipmen t of troops, 1918., genernl engi- nginoor depot mul director o.f pmcnases, to neer de'oot and dtrector of pmcbases ... __ •. . .• 13,157, 675.3 Den. 6, 1918 .•••• --~-~-········ .. ··--~--- · ····· 523,026,'97'.81 Other disbursing o1fiecrs .• : • . ..• •. ··- . ·• •••• ·· ·-~ . 6, s:n. 117 FOF .Motor TranBport Corns, per General Order 75; 13, 164, 1i2G. g7 ·war Department, 1918, to cover motor-vehicle Engineer equipment of troops., 1919, general ongi-· contracts ..••••.. -···...... !), 442,252. 6G :aeer dej)Ot .and di.root or of p1li'Cllases,. Dec, o, All othal: disbursing officers to-oe.t~ 31J 1918------!.52,930: 8.3 1918 •••• ~ ····~ ··------·· ~ -·--··· .. ~· · ··· 3, 662, 799. 3 ------$29' 622., 158. 30 Other disbursing offi..eers to O'ct. 31, 1918. -· -~··· 2,...,.51J.13 ~nginecr operations in the field, 1919 general 31 GG.'i 1 649-~ 43 nJO_neer a epot and director of purcltases, to Dec. 6, 1918 ...... _ ...... ~ 120,301,222.5. 361; - , W!.31 Reserve !or American Expeditionary Forces. ~ ••• 200, 000..,000.00 l!'or Motor Transport Corps, per General Order 75, War Dcpart.mAnt, l.91 to cover motor vehicles. -4, 466,11&.27 All other disb.utsingo1fice:rs to Ol!t. 31 , 1918. ••••• 185~354.26 ------32-1, 95.2,.68'i.t)1

[Foot note t at bottom of n~xt page.] 1919. ·CON GR.ESSION AL RECOR_D-HOUSE. 2233

Statement of military approp!"iations made since May 12, 1911, as of Dec. 1, 1918_!._Continued.

ORDNANCE DEPAR'r)!ENT,

Opening balance and subsequent ap-r,ropriations Disbursements, available Apr. 6, Apr. 6, 1917, t o Total sa,ings. 191i, to NoY. 30, NoY. 30, 1918. 191 .

APPROPTIL!TIOKS. J'urcbase, manufacture, and test of field, railway, antiaircraft, and b·ench warfare artillery, field artillery for National Guard, balance as of Apr. 6, 1917, act May 12, 1917; antiaucroft guns, Army, acts May 12./ 1917, and June 1.'>, 1917; armament of fortificntlons B, balance as o[ Apr. 6, 1917, acts June 15, 1917, Oct. 6, 1917, Mar. 2.~, 1918, and July 8, 1918; armament of fortifications I, balance as of Apr. 6, 1917; armament of fortifications No. 46, balance us of Apr. 6, 1917; field artlllery for Organized Militia, balance as of Apr. 6,1917 .... S1 , 3i1, 'i26, 93.83 S5il, 246, 135.36 ~42i, ~51, 211 . 41 $198,386, 912. 08 $1i4, 642,634.98 Purcha<;e, manufacture, and test of ammunition for field, railway, antiaircraft, and trench warfare artillery, ammunition for field artillery, National Gtlard, balance us. of Apr. 6, 1917; act May 12, 1917; ammunition for antiaircraft :mns, Army., balance a3 of Apr. 6,1917, acts May 12, lln7, and June 15, 1917; Army powaer factory balance as of Apr. 6, 1917; armament of fortifications C balance 33 of Apr. 6, 1917, acts June 15, 1917, Oct. 6, 1917, July 5, 1918, and Nov. 4, 1918 ...... 3,253,08.>,383.00 1, i04, 91 '880. 26 1, 155,211,848. Oi 392,954,654. 'i3 ...... Subcaliber ammunition for field, railway, antiaircraft, and trench warfare artillery, armament of fortifications N, baiance·as of Apr. 6, 1917, acts June 15,1917, and July 8,1918...... 94,4i0,364.G5 8, 208,124 .23 621 , 132.33 222,930.71 85, 418, 177. 38 Alteration and maintenance of field, railway, antiaircraft, and trench warfare artillery, armament of fortifications L, balance as of Apr. 6, 1917, acts June 15, 1917, Oct. 6, l!H7, and July 8, 1918; armament of fortifications 0, balance as of Apr. 6,1917 ...... 381,687,341.91 3G,222, 1.17 53, 92.),'918. 3·1 61,455,297.62 233, 083, 2H. iS Manufacture of arms, balance as oLo\pr. 6,1917, acts May 12,1917, June 15,1917, Cct. 6,1917, Mar. 28 1918, and July 9, 1918; manufacture of rifles, acts Oct. 6, Hl7, and July 9, 19l8...... 492,002,599.12 . 133, Zli,586.84 139, 9.31, 9.68 7, 985, 065.51 210,8'i8,,1F)i.OJ Orlc on preceding page.] 2 Estimatell addilional cash needs, as follows:

1. Engineer operations in iha field, 1918, to moot 2. Engineer operations in the field~Continucd. • probable requirements which in t he nature of (n) Changing personnel of camouflage develop­ the case can not now be fors~n ...... _..•..•. _ ~.000.00 ment work from military tocivilianstatus. $2,900.00 2. Engineer operations in the field, 1919: (o) Operations of engineer depot, Hoboken, (a) Purcbase of fio!lting derricks, locomotiyes, estimated by depot officer at $200,000 per spare parts, stevedore material, and for month (this would make for remairung clerical hire of director general, military six months) ...... 1,200,000.00 railways ...... S ,265,00\l.(}J (p) ·office expenses of Machinery and Engineer­ (b) For compiiJting maps or artillery firing ing Materials Division, chargeable to ranges. Camp Jackson project, 12,900; engineer appropriations ...... 77,500.00 Camp Bragg project, $54,248.96 ...... 70, 148.9\i (q) To meet probablerequirementsin the Urnted (c) To make · payments to field parties and States and Europe which in the nature of olice assistants on mapping work (this the case can not now be for seen...... 2, 000,000.00 amount necessitated by chaJlging from a ------$16,422,4i4.S4 military to a civilian status) ...... 107,000.00 3. Engineer equipment of troops, 1918, probable re- (d) Purchase of aerial cartographic equipment .. 5,000.00 quirements not now foreseen ...... _...... • • • • • 500. ~ (e) Payment of liberty lo::m and other allotr 4. Engineer equipment of troops, 1919: ments of civilian clerks overseas ...... 40,000.00 (a.) Development work: Material and equip­ (f) Engineer trarning of Ninth to Twentieth ment-Pontoon and bridge, $31,000; search- Inbn try Dhisim1s ...... 225,815.88 lights, $350,000; sound ranging, Sl2,000; (9) En6ineer training at Infantry School of sap per and train equipmenti$7,500...... 400,500.00 Arms, Columbus, Ga ...... lOO,OOO.OJ (b) Changing personnel on de>e opment from (h) Expenses of snpply and engmeer training of military to civilian status ...... 69,380.00 special units like the last item above...... 2,000,000.00 (c) )iaintenance of electrical equipment and (i) Expensesofdemobilization...... 2,000,000.00 searchlightsandsow1drangingequipment. 100,000.00 (j) Additional for engineer training at Field (tl) Fabrication and maintenance of pontoon and Artillery firing centers ...... 4,000.00 other engineer equipment at depots (k) Operation of central photographic laboratory, throughout this country and the insular military trade schools, central mapping possessions ...... 59,000.00 plant, etc., 'Vashington Barracks ...... 41,030.00 (c) To cover deficit shown under " Engineer (l) Camp Humphreys: Engineer school, $20,180; equipment of troops, 1918"...... 2, 841,234. !l:} vocational schools, $208,900; pontoon, (f) Probable requirements which in the nature brid~e, an::l pioneerschools,$20,000...... 249,080.00 of the case can not now be foreseen .....•.. 75,000.00 (m) Development works,cam.ouflage (remainder 3,536, 114.99 of development work under engineer equipment of troops) ...... 5,000.00 20,459,0 !). 83 'fhe foiJowing engineer appropriations are not included in the aboYe t:1tement since the requirements to which they are applicable arc not affected by the cessation of hostilities: Engineer depots, 1919; Engineer School. Washington, D. C., 191!1; ciYilian1 assistants to engineer officers, 191!1; contingencics,·Engineer Department, Philippine Islands, 191!1; military sur,crs and map3, 191 , Dec. 31, 1919. ll. " •. .,- , "\ OONGRESSION ~L RECOR.D-HOUSE.

S_tatcmell"t·ot ·military appropJ'·iations -made incc May 12, '191"1, as of Dec. 1, 1918--Continuw. ORD~..U"\"CE DEI'ARTMEN"T-.Continne

Opening balance and sub~q!lent DisbnrS<'mmts, Obllgaiions out- ~lro-~ca~{e~e~~- appropnalwns Apr. 6, 1917 to stand.ing Nov. duct~ savings available Apr. 6, 1 3 Total Stl\ ings. 1917,-to ·ov. 30, ~ov . 30, 1918. 30, f~ie~. b u.s of Nov. 30, . 191. 191 .

CO)l"TRACF A""CTHO:BaJ.TIO)l"S. Purchllse, manuf{lcture, and test of .field, railway, antiaircraft, and trcneh war- fareartillery, an:nament offorli.fications B, acts July 8 1918, and Nov. 4, 191 . $1, 16, 514, 192. 00 1, 16,5.U,192. 0) Purchase, manufacture, and test of field, railway, antiarrcraft,1 and trench war· fare artillery ammunition, armament offortilications C, acts July 8, 1918", aud Nov. 4, 1918 ...... 2,S39, 511,235.00 ...... ·$265,

CHEMICAL WARFARE SERVICE.

·Disbursements Db ligations in­ "F.stimalcd addi­ ·curred prior to h .Bnlancc of Titles. , .Appropriations. made to Dec. 1, tional ca needs appropriation 191 . balance fi.<>cal D~.I~ifea.to ·year 191!! • not required.

. A.ntiaircraltgun.s,actJune15,1917 ...... - ...... $19.80 ...... •...... 1$19.80 ...... Ar~ent of fort~fi.cations, acts June 15..~,. 1911, and July·fb '1918...... 4,-937,959.27 '$20, 580,409.52 .26, 174,927.86 ...... :$38; 182; rdnanceservwe, acts Oct. 6, 1917t..!lild July"9, -191 ...... 1.,062,002.62 54,.262.02 .7 ,41 .57 ...... 219,"871.61 Ordnance stores ammunition, acts June 15, 1917, Mar. 28, 1918, and July 9, 1918.. 30, 857,6.)8.12 "1, 61 , 920.38 "2,213, 523.34 ...... 27,-025,.214.4(1 ~~~~c~1s~=~a~~PfJ;.,i,af~~t.~~--~~~-~~~~·-~~~:~:.1:.1_8:.~~~-~~-~~-~:~~-~-8:: 9,~;~:~ ct~:l . l!;~:~ ::::::::::::::::~: 9,oitm:~ Small arms target practice, act June 15, 1917...... 272.00 ...... 272. 00 ...... Chemical warfare service, act Nov. 4, 1918...... 100,000, 000.00 ...... 43,632.12 1 S2.:482,().j.! ..7· · '97;.474;3i2.'6o l------r------1 ------~------l ------~ !.I'otal...... -...... 307,058,475.35 "50,238,345.37 1 70,'405,'4.&L51 I 2, 4 2, 054.7 ·1 , 9..'>2 610. 5J

1 Estimated additional cash needs are·ror th fdllowing-purpo es: Administration,.research,.development, supplies, repairs, maintcnanCl', !lnd eontingencies., $2,4 ?,054.78. RECAPIT.ULATlON. APPROPRIATIONS.

Balanee ·of Disbursement.'l .Balance or ':Appropriat ions. made to Dec. 1, ·reserrations 'l'itle3. alter deduclin_g appropnatlon 191 . savings. not required.

Chemical Warfare Sorvice ...... ••••.•••...... •. -·. $307;058,475 . .35 s;>o, 238,345.37 $10,405, 464.. !H ·Sl83. 932, 610. (j(\ Bureau of Aircraft Production...... 1,:.499,067~ 766. 00 638, 2!8, 359.47 358,561,742.27 "1~;~;~:~ :::::::::::::::::: 402, 000. 000. 00 Signal Corps...... --~·-··------·--· · .1561 332, 937 ..50 22, 705,467.W 45,..765.133.41 4,509,136.08 ..... _ ...... , 373, 20 . Ol Medical Department...... __ ...... ·-··- · .. 461;188, 94 . 00 2;>3, 221.455.52 141,360.631.27 .12, 461,3-17.48 .. -...... -· .. .. [~, 145, 513. 73 Division of Military ,Aeronautics ...... -----...... :192,304, 758. 00 53,254,806. 40 46, 050,000. 00 31,467,026.'42 ...... ·61. 532,925. 1 :Corps or E.u?incers.. --•...... •• ...... 1,"553, 200,000. ()() 481,991 , 644. 37 361,405,022. 31 20,459.089. . •. ·-...... 1712.1 ',478.4.8 Quartermaster Corps ...... ~ · .....•.... 12,.265,.405, 810.10 5, 262, 197, 115.53 1, 001, 316,575. 08 2,261,525, 662.03 ...... __ • ,3, 740,366,457.46 Ordnance Department ...... _--· ...... 7, 800,:846, 565.40 ·a, 157,200, 4.06. 78 2rl9G, 884, 607.11 •...... "$943, '413,483: 76. .1, 503, 34.8, 007. 75 Total...... ~--l-24-;zl-o-.,-425--,-260-.-35-+_-9-,-899--,05-r:-7,-60-1._41_ 1 _4_, -2"J_l_.. _U_9_,-235-.99-l -2,-4-33-,-l-61-,-9-S0-.--:--9-!-3-,4.-1-3,-4-83-.-7-6-J:'-G-, ~-,4-0-,-~,-1-9-3.-3-0

t'Enginecrs·negativc balance not taken o.1f, '$2,841,.234.99. i~t:l ~:}~:~f:Rr~i~i:gg:~gt;: tracts. dueling saving3. not r~qui.red.

Bureau of .Aircraft Production ...... · ...... ••.... _...... • - ~e:~~=~~:=~~~~~j;;: :·::·:·:·:·:· ::·::::: ::::::::: ~::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: .. - ~~:~;~: ~- :::::::::::::::::: :::::: ~: :::::::::: ... -~~:~; ~: ~ -~~~:f~~::::·::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~ : e:e:~ :::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::~:=: ~:~:~:r: . 9r.~nancc Department...... 8,045,559,662.00 ... i80;7·i;05i: i6' "'S50;499;3i6: i4' 7,714, 279,29-J. 70 Total...... 8, 521,309,662. 00 280,7 1,051.10 50,499,316. H 8, 190,029,294.7 IUIB. CO~ GRESS! ON AL RECORD-_HOUSE. 2235

Naval emergency fund M of Nov. 1, 1918.

Unobligated bal­ Reductions by Reductions in Project. Amount spccifi- E~enditures to Unpaid obliga­ work contem­ Total estimated cally allotted. Nov. 1, 1918. tions. ances or over­ contract can­ plated but not reductions. expenditures. cellation. obligated.

New construction ... ____ ..... _:...... $142, 271,500.00 $141,980,395.00 S155,474,ov5. 00 1155, 183,500.00 $46,490,000. 00 . • ...... S46, 490,000. 00 lncreased compensation .. . _...... 20,000,000.00 700,000. 00 4, 000,000.00 15,300, 000. 00 • • . . . • . • . • ...... • • $15, 300, 000. ()() 15,300, 00~ 00 Construction and Repair ..•.. _...... _ 1, 000,000.00 . • • • ...... 968,020.58 31,979.42 . •. • ...... 31,979.42 31,979.42 Steam Engineering...... 8, 897,857 .!()() 6,876, 713.96 781,658.90 1, 239, 484.14 205,375.00 639, 4S4.14 844,859-14 f)upplies and Accounts...... 21 474,687.35 1,507, 682.21 211,937.31 155,067.83 12,850. 00 755,057.83 767, 917.83 Contingent_ ...... _...... 255,979. 45 134,665. 45 121,314. 00 Vessels purchased...... _..... 7, 076, 62il. 00 35,956, 92il. 55 1, 771,260.24 ····.;a;65i;56o~79- .•.•..... ::~~:~. :::::::::::::::::: ...... ::~:~ Charter of vessels, Sbifcping Board...... 11,000,000.00 • • • • ...... • . • . . 11,000,000.00 ...... •..•.••.•....••••...•...•••.•.•...•..••...•...... •...••• ~~~~~:: -~~~- ~~ ~~~s_-_-: ::::::: 2~:m: :i: g

Less reductions through cancellations .••...... •....•.•••.••.•...... •...... •...•...•...•...•.•.•.•.....•...•.•••.•.•...•••••••.•.••••••••••••• 96,004, i75. 88 163,290, 903. 81 .Amount required to complete projects already authorized and which can not be canceled .•.....•.•....•...... •...•..•...... •.•...•.... _..•...•.• 33,313, 8i2. 07 315,000, 000.00 343,313, Si2. 07 Or- Total appropriated._...... 315, 000, OOG. 00 ~=:~i~~~~~~: -~~~~:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: fsi: fg~: ~~: H Total...... 411,604, 7i5. 88 Total reductions...... 63,290,903.81 Net total expenditures and authorizations ...••..•.•.•. : ...... 348,313,812.07

Statemen! of condition of naval appropri!I.tiona m!Jd~ .rin:e M.sr. t, 1917, as of NJV: 1, 1918.

Unobligated Authorizations Total amount Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. not yet appropriated, Expenditures to balance obligations estimated o•er­ covered by including Nov. 1, 191 . Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. obUgations appropriations. authorizations. Nov. 1, 1918.

SECRETARY'S OFFICE. g~~~iioi:6~~::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: $8,~;~:~ ss,r~;~~ 1$li~:i~:~ $3,34::~:~ 1$3,4~t~~:* Aviation, Navy.••.....•.•...... •...... _...... __ ...... • 281,516,119.00 68,580,458.89 212,935,660.11 102, 510,926.05 110,42!, 734.05 Increase of the Navy, construction and machinery.:...... $400,000,000.00 493,123,000.00 23,852,690.25 469,270,309.75 156,532,365. 48 312, 737,95!. Z1 Increase of the Navy, torpedo boats...... 30,700,000.00 104,028,280.00 26,037,139.87 77,991, 1-!0.13 35,383,255.48 42,607, 884.65 Increase of the Navy, torpedo boat destroyers...... •...... • 350,000,000.00 129,248,645.08 220,751,354.92 233,387,25:4.92 112,635,900.00 ~Erg~~-~~-~~-~-~~~~-~~-~~~-~~:.~~~~~~~~~-~:.·················· 23,570,000.00 6,805, 702.24 16,7&!,297. 76 5,692,389.68 11,071,9:>8.08 - ~~~~J~~ffu~cif~~~~-~~::r~::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: ~;~:~ i~;~~:~ i&g;~t~ ···········685:oa· igg;gs~:: StatemarineschooL...... 125,000.00 ············--··-· 125,000.00 ...... 125,000.00 ~~l~~~~~e!~~~f.~:~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: s1~: ~:~: ~ ··- m;4ill; 963:11 • ~:~:~: . ~ · · · iB6; iw;si2: ii. 19ij:~:m: ~ (l'cmporary concrete office buildings ..••..•••.....••.• _•.•. ·I-·-·_·._._._·._._·_·._._·_·._._· l>---7,_265_,_ooo_._oo_ ___5,_826_,_7_oo_._34_1-_-1,_43_8,_299_._66_ !---309-'_39_L_9_!_!---1-'_12_,_oo_7_._7_2 1 Total, BureauofSecrct&ry's Office .....•...•.....•••.. 430,700,000.00 r 1,584,768, 899.00 494,749,773.51 1,090,019,125.~9 1 723,366,947.90 1 366,352,177.59

Estimated Percentage Estim!l.ted savings by and estimated savings (work Percentage Percentage contract savings or contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated .Appropriation title. cancellations obligations not to be done) savings of savings or sa•ings of ol obligations existing of unobligated unobligated reductions. unexpended existing balances existing balances balances. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918.

SECRETARY'S OFFICE. Pay,misct>llaneous...... ••..•...... •.• ••.•.•.••....••••• 1$7,14 ,502.72 ...... •.....• 1$7,148,502.72 Aviation,Navy ...... •.•.•...... •.. $34,866,541.00 24percent...... 54,789,123.32 49percent...... 89,645,664.32 42percent. }f~~~~~r;rserJ:~ilcr!?~~~~-~t-~-e::=~:.~r_s_-_:: :·: ::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: -~~-~~ .':~~:::::: .•. ··i;ooo; ooo: oo" :::::::::::::::::: ..... i; ooo: roo: 00- Navalemergencyfund...... •.. . • . ..• . . . . .• . •. •.•.•...... 46, no, 725.00 25 per cent...... 16,580,178.81 . •.•••••••••••••.. 133,313,872.07 Total, Bureau of Secretary's Office ... _.....•.•.•...... 81,5i7,206.00 65,210,799.41 ..••.••...••... ..• 50,183,289.53

1 Deficit. '\ 2236 . -.... ., ·~ . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--·n:ouSE.

Statement of condition of naval appropt·iationa tJtade aince Mar._!, 1911, as of Nov. 1, 1918-Continue

Authorizations Total amount Unobligated not yet appropriated, Expenditures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. covered by including - Nov. 1, 1918. balance obligations estimated over· appropriations. authorii.ations. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. obligations Nov. 1, 1918.

NA VJGATION.

$16,636.40 $20,034.53 1 $3,348.13 7,363, 192.36 I74,807.20 7,188,365.16 a~;~~~~~oii~i~;~~:_: :::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 18, ~:m: ~ 11,~; !~: ~ 322,234.11 322,234.11 Arming andeqwppin~aval Militia...... I,527,617. 70 873,193.48 654,424.22 218,598.47 ...... 435;827:75 Outfits on first enlistment...... •...... 36,138,920.00 I7,55Q,968. 62 I8, 587' 951. ~ 3,703.45 I8,5S4, 247.93 Instruments and supplies...... •.•.•.•.•...... 9,663,240.00 2, 669,286.05 6, 993,953.95 692,668.87 6,301,285.08 • Oceanandlakesurveys...... 310,000.00 97,882.39 212,117.61 I5,157.80 196,959.81 Naval Tr~i~ing Stattio~ R. I. ..•.•...••••••• :...... 550, 000.00 375,252.19 . 174,747.81 279,187.49 1101,439.68 Naval trammg·station, tst. Helena, Va...... ••...... 390,000.00 138,107.05 251,692.95 242.00 251,650.9."1 Naval training station, Great Lakes, lli...... · ...... 921,400.00 502, 452.30 418,947.70 85,462.77 333,484.93 I07,224. 55 3,736.30 103,488.25 40,245.92 7,264. 82 32,981.10 ~=~~~J~£tti;~:~~~-:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: I,:U:S:~ !r:i~: ~ 548,783.70 548,783.70 Current and miscellaneous expenses, Naval Academy...... ••...... • . . 150, 800.00 51,135.88 99,664.12 ...... i2; 423: i9. 87,210.93 Maintenance and rep:lirs, Naval Academy...... I, 109,992.00 712,857.12 397,134.88 21,625.00 375,500.79 I34,395.8-l 134,395.84 ~~l~;~~t~ese;;;·-Fo~<:e:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: ~~:~:~ 47~:~:~ 159,033.45 ········60;334:97" 98,698.48 Schools or camps of instruction for recruits and Naval Reserve Force...... 5,340, 720.00 1, 744, 975.25 3, 595, 744.75 ~,311.33 3, 212, 433. 42 Recreation for nnlisted men of the Navy...... 700, 000.00 74,395. 43 625,004. 57 21,108.76 604, 495.81 Recruiting, Navigation...... 1,419,228. 84 847,374.5I 571,854.33 . 57,467.01 514,387.32 To~,B~eauofNavigati~...•.•.•..••.•..•••••••.. : ~.-..-.-.-.- ..-.-.- ..-.-.- ..-.-- ~~~-7-~-~~.-4-7-2-.9-4-~~-~-.-s-n-,-~~-.3-4-~~~~~~~-~~~~~~~-~~~~~~~- 41,275,834.60 2,379,366.16 \ ~. 896, 468. 4 4 Emergency fund ...... , 5, 101,000.00 2, 978, 784.39 2,122, 215. 61 466, 135. 281 1, 656,080.33

Estimated Percentage Estimated savings by and estimated savings (work Percentage Percentage contract savings of contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated Appropriation title. cancellations obl4tations not to be done) savings of savings or savings of of obligations e:nsting of unobligated unobligated reductions. unexpended existing balances existing balances. balances. Nov. I, 1918. Nov. I, 1918. Nov. I, 1918.

NAVIG~TION. Contingent, navigation ...... 1$5,000.00 ...... 1$5,000.00 1 630, 235. 04 ...... 1 630, 235. 04 b~~~~~a~~e~~~~!~~: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 6,~,870.23 ...... 1 6, ~. 870. 23 4,000,000.00 ...... 4,000,000.00 1 450, 000. 00 ...... 1 450, 000. 00 ~~=l!~!!~:r.--J~i~:v~~::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: - 1 610, 278. 35 ...... 1 610, 278. 35 11,650,000.00 ...... 11,650,000.00 ~:;:} ?~g srt!~~lt ,Gc:f~-~~~·-~::::::::::::::: :::::: :::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::: :_:: 122,000.25 ...... 122,066.25 1------J------1------1 Total, Bureau of Navigation...... , ...... ••.....•...... 632,420.36 ...... 632,420.36 I--~~~~~~~~~~~~~i --~~~~~~1 Emergency fund ...... ~ ...... •...... 450,000.00 ...... 450,000.00

Authorizations Total amount Unobligated not yet appropriated. Expenditures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. covered by in.cluding Nov. 1, 1918. balance obligations estimat3d ove~ appropriations. authorizations. Nov. I, I918. Nov. I, I9I8. obligations Nov. I, 1918.

ORDNANCE. Ordnance and ordnance stores...... • . . . . $98, 247, 759. 00 $37, 412,502. 57 $60, 835, 256. 23 $42,062,911.45 $18,772, 314.68 Contingent, Ordnance...... • . • . . . • ...... • ...... • ...... 99, 500. 00 42,441.36 57,058.64 27,270.23 29, I88. 41 I,327.32 28,572.68 28,672.68 274,727.81 325,272.19 .•.... "207;•76." 75. 117,795.44 I,902,4I7.64 8, 593,055. 36 7, 543,013. 22 1,055,042. 14 ~~?~~:~:b:~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~:~~~: ~ ~~:: ~:~ ~:~: ~:~ ~ ~:~ IO,~i! i 115,616.20 369,383.80 68,264.82 301,118. 93 New batteries for sllips in the Navy...... $20,000,000.00 235,809,093.00 71,391,094. 82 164, 418,003. I8 104,947,488. 75 59,470,514.43 3, 193, 801. 13 I9, 092,473. 87 7, 150, 39J. 23 11, 342,086. 64 1 60, 989, 040. 75 84,423,419.25 54, 381' 25~- 65 30, 047' 16~- 60 ~:!~~Et~ttif=~=:·::::::::::::::::::::::::::. ::::::: :::::::::::::::::: ~:~~:::~ 6,I52. 74 3,847. 26 3, 847. 28 Antiaircraft guns and ammunition at naval stations...... 3, 800,000.00 2, 338, 541. 91 I, 46I, 453.09 ·· ·· ·i;454; 829:oo · 6, 629. 09 Increase of the Navy, ammunition...... 39, 544,690. 00 61,072,733.00 61,072,733.00 ~ 137, 288. 53 34,935,444. 32 Increase of the Navy, armor and armament ...... - 76,371,064.00 140,551,064.00 ··· · T 596; si7: is· 138,954, 246. 82 '117, 746. 91 61,836,499.91 .Ammunition for ships ofthe Navy...... • ...... • 3, 500,000. 00 3,500,000. 00 2, 951' 844. 39 646, 155. 42. Proje!!tile plant, Navy...... -~······...... I,375,345. 00 ...... 97i;o55:ss· 404,289.15 691,648.79 I 290, 359. 64 Armament and ammunition for Coast Guard cutters...... • ...... 159, 590.00 . 5,569.49 154,021.51 74,447.48 79,574. 03 Ammunition for vessels...... 11,000,000. 00 ~ 202,330,508. 00 87,345, 588. 9! 114,984,919.06 79,590, 372. 91 35,391,546. 15 Ammunition for auxiliaries and merchantmen...... • . •• . . • ...... I9, 986,800.00 11, 299, 867. 76 8, 688, 932. 24 5, 991, 543. 05 2,697,585.19 ······-··········· 3,000,000. 00 114, 615.69 2, SRS, 384. 31 ~:~ ~:t~~~~t-::::::::::::::: ~:::: :·:: ~::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: ~: m: ~: ~ 9,I50, 000. 00 I, 575,926. 50 7,574,07.3.5~ Fuel lands for armor and projectile plants...... • • •• • ••• • • • • • • . • 25,000. 00 ···········486:84· 24,513.16 24,513.16 Increasing facilities for proof and test of ordnance material.. . . • • • • • • • • • • . • . • • • 1, 000. 000. 00 96,195.87 903,804.13 ••.•.... 43; 45i." 00. 860,352.17 Ammunition for merchant auxiliaries...... • • •• ••• • • . • . • . • • . 7, 731, 9i1. 00 5, 097,435.71 2, 634, 505. 29 -1,265,146.95 1, 369, 35-Q. 34 Batteries for merchant auxiliaries...... •. . •...... 4, 731,174.00 I,236,342.89 3,494,831.11 3, 788,309. 87 1 293, 47g. 76 I ------:------I ------~------: ------1------Total, Bureau or Ordnance ...... ···•··.····•·····... 146,915,754.00 I 971, 906,725.00 285, 322, 023. 88 686, 584,701. 121 417, 190,668. 47 1 269,394,032.65

1 Deficit. N OTE.-In the hearings it was stated that if the deficiencies requested were granted a saving of $450,000 could be made in the naval emergency fund. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 2237:

Statement of conditio1~ of na~;al app1·opriation11 made since Mar. 2, 1!J17s- a.8 of Nov. 1, 1918-Continued.

Estimated I'ercentage Estimated savings by estim!l.ted savings (work Percentage Percentagu contract savings of contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated Appropriation title. cancellations not to be done) savings of savings on savings of ob~ations of obligations eXISting of unobligated unobligated reductions. unexpended existing balances existing balances. balance. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918.

ORDN.L.'>CE. ·I · · Ordnance and ordnance stores...... · $541,216.00 I percent plus ... ' $4,633,873.00 24percent plus.. SS, 175,089.00 8per6entplus. Contingent, Ordnance ...... ···--·~·-•· ...... 10,000.00 34percentplus.. 10,000.00 17 per cent plus. Experiments, Ordnance...... 125,000.00 4lpercentp1ns.. 12-5,000.00 33 per cent plus New batteries for ships in tbe Navy...... 30,305,257.00 28percentplus.. 30,000,000.00 50 percent plus.. 60,305,257.00 36 per cent p!us. Torpedoes and appliances. . . . • ...... • • .. • • • .. • .. • • ...... • ...... • ...... 7, 000, 000 .. 00 58 per cent plus.. 7, 000, 000. 00 36 per cent plus. lteserve ordnance supplies-...... 21,620,3i3.00 39percentplus.. 20,000,000.00 66-percentDius.. 41,620,373.00 49per cent plus. Contingent, buildingfand...... 3,347.46 100percen't..... 3,847.26 100 per cent. Increase of the Navy, armor and armament...... 1,714, 750. 00 2percentplus .. ·1··-- ...... 1{ 714,750.00 1 per cent . Pro:jectileplanE, Navy...... 1250,359.64 ...... 290,359.64 .An:D.ament ana ammunition for Coast Guard cutters...... •...... 79,574.03 100 per cent..... 79 574.03 51 per cent plus. Ammunition for vessels...... • • .. • • • • • . . . . 11, 805, 400. 00 14 per cent plus.. 16, 500,000. 00 46 per cent plus.. 28, 305,400. 00 24 per cent plus. Ammunition for auxiliaries and merchantmen...... 277, 500. 00 4 per cent plus... 2, 400,000. 00 88 per cent plus.. 2,677, 500. 00 30percent plus. :Navy mine depot ...... Navynitrateplant...... 966,867.00 60percent...... 7,355,014.00 97percentp1us.. 8,311,881.00 90percent. Fuel lands for armoc and projectile plants. • • • • ...... • . . . • • • • • • ...... • . • 24, 513. 16 100 per cent. • . . . 24., 513. 16 100 per cent. Increasing facilities for proof and test or ordnance materiaL ..... ·----·--...... Ammunition for merchant auxiliaries...... • ...... • ...... 1 300,000. 00 94 per cent plus.. 1, 300, 000.00 49 per cent plus. Batteries tor merchant auxiliaries...... 1, 550, 000.00 40 per cent...... 1293, 478. 76 . • . . . • . • • • .. . • . • •. 1, 256, 521.24 36 per cent plus. Total, Bureau of Ordnance ...... · •.. 68,481,003.36 ...... 89,138,342.69 ...... 157,619,3!6..0.'5

Authorizations Total amount Unobligated not yet appropriated, Expenditures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. including Nov. 1, 1918. balance obligations estimated o•er· covered by Nov. 1, 1!tl8. Nov. 1, 1918. appropriations~ anthOiizations. obligations Nov. 1, 1918.

Y.lRDS A:!\"'> DOCli:S. Maintenance, yards and docks . ••••.....•..•...•...••••.••••.•.•.•...... •....• $24, 188,000.00 119, 069, 615. 23 $5, 718,384. 77 $4,979,630.14 $738, i54. 63 10,225, 000.00 7,1US, 470. 62 2,376, 529. 38 552,991.35 1, 823, 538. 03 ~~=~~j~==~~cirS·.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 4, 340, 000. 00 3,577,170. 71 762,829.29 672,613.30 90,215.99 Emergency expenses, yards and docks ...... 4-, 750, 000. 00 500,133.85 4, 246,866.15 346~746.06 3, 900, 120. 09 Marine Corps rifle range, Winthrop, Md...... 10,000.00 1 10,000.00 ...... Navy ylll'd- • 614,000.00 104,290.71 509,709.29 9,678.55 500,030.74 2, 151,500.00 196,651.4,2 1,954,848. 58 136,612.66 1, 818,235. 92 2, 469,000.00 983, 792.4.9 1,485,207.51 317,961.51 1,167, 246.00 3, 855, 000. 00 817,912.92 3, 037,087. 08 2,28.'l,029.00 754,058.08 8,161, 600.00 3, 973, 329. 41 4,188, 270. 59 2, 455, 502. 34 1, 732, i68. 25 7, 156,508. 69 3,856,829.81 3, 299, 678. 88 1,138, 986. 65 2,160,692.23 4, 75-7,000.00 219,302.67 4, 537,697.33 19,150. 9Z 4, 518, 546. 41 2,525, 000. 00 2, 525, 000. 00 2, 525, 000. 00 ~~~t::1_·11111 - .111111[11111·.1.11!~·:··· m:j~~~-ij 66;067~00- 5!0,000~00 ...... 30:oo2:63. 479,997.37 ...... 413,930.37 ~e ?;~~:;:::::.:::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 3,455, 000. 00 1,450, 713.62 2, 004,286.38 96,262'. 75 1, 908,023. 63 Puget Souna, Wash...... 350,000.00 2,045,500.00 573,409.67 1, 472,090. 33 136,685.86 1, 335,404.47 Naval station- Island of Guam...... 160, 000.00 30,3~.13 129,6071'87 2,658.60 126,949.27 234,000.00 28,069.09 '205, 910.91 ...... 203, 910.91 . ~~::~=~~~~ail:.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 1, 071, 775. 00 318.,954.15 758,820.85 587,800.76 171,020.09 Naval training station- ~23,000.00 19,546.30 403,453.70 29,987.00 373,466. 'iO ~:Jt~~:b~~~~·::::.·:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 155,000.00 25,099.76 129,900.24 ...... 129,900.24 Na\N~~~~ 'P~ast ...... 135,000.00 105,000.00 30,000.00 :00,000.00 New York Harbor...... 68,000.00 30,998.10 37,001.90 ·--······9;_78ii5" 27,218.65 26,000.00 ...... 26,000.00 ...... 26,000.00 118,000.00 64,809.32 53,190.68 47,134.21 6,056.47 roz, 700. oo 112,115.88 390,584.12 657.90 . 389, 926.22 117,000.00 . 80,586.22 36,413.78 28,223.47 8,190.31 .J~~~?~~LjjjHj~~jjjj~~:::~~~jHHj::: m:~~H:Hm 16,000.00· 15~941.32 5S.68 ...... 58.68 PngetSo1md, Wash...... 49,600.00 40,607.96 8,992.()4: ...... 8,992.04 Marine barracks- Norfolk, Va ...... '...... 25,100.00 19,384..95 6,315.05 ...... 6,315.05 475,000.00 475,000.00 4i5,000.00 280,000. 00 ·· · · · · · isi;a20:59· 98,679.31 ...... 98; 69i: 98" 212.67. 55-,000.00 17,938.53 37,061.47 37,061.47 ,_~~~~~;(: ~ ~ ~ ~: ~ ~ ~: ~ ~:::: ~ ~: ~ ~::: ~ ~: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ :~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~: ~ ~ ~ ~:: ~ ~ -3,572,500.00 1,977,597.93 1,59-t, 902.07 .... •.. 955; 958~ oi · 627,9-!4.06 Buildings and grounds, Naval Academy...... 4, 920,000.00 3, 883,249.28 I, 036, 750. 72 173,042.21 863,708.51 Navaltraining station, Great Lakes. tmildlngs...... 9')2, 500. ()() 922,500.00 ...... 922,500.00 Torpedostatton, Newport, R.I., bmldings ...... : ...... 1,197, 000.00 .. -- ~ ... 00:306: 96" 1,146, 693.04 206,204.51 940,488.53 Naval proving I!TOund, Indianhead, Md ...... 1, 160,000.00 221,746.46 938,25.1. 54 544,277.55 393,975.99 90,000.00 44,922.51 45,077.49 2, 799.75 42,277.74 ~!~:~~~hn~~~~!aW~ii~y;;I~:::::: :::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: - 369,500.00 104,784.31 264,715.69 78,884.25 185, 31.4.-f Navy aeroplane station, Pensacola, Fla ...... 345,000.00 202,622.70 142,377.30 25,966.21 116,411.09 175,000.00 175,000.00 3,090.00 171.910.00 ~~~~~~~ti~~~~~~~~~~,v~:: ·. ~ ~ ::~: ~ ~ ~~~ :~ ~ ~:: ~ ~:: ~:: :::::::::::::::::: 16,000.00 ...... i5;8i4:63" 185.37 ...... 18-5.37 Land for naval warehouses, South Brooklyn, N.Y ...... 659,085.90 ...... 659,085.90 658,000 00 1,085.90 500,000.00 500,000.00 ...... 500,000.00 ~~{~~~~~~~=~a~~~~~:::::::::::: : ::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 120,000.00 ...... 98; 63i: 59. 21,368.41 20,123.84 1,244.57 Marine barrack-s- Peking, China ...... 172,000.00 54,682.23 117,317.77 139,817.00 222,499.23 San Diego, Cal...... 2,100, 000.00 236,955.69 1, 863,044.31 232,840.39 1, 6.30, 203.92 Torpedo storage facilities, Navy ...... •...... •.•••.•...... 250,000.00 ...... 250,000.00 ...... 250,000.00 Lighting racilittes, navy yards and stations ...... •••.•.•.....•.. 200,000.00 152,685.05 47,314.95 2,12-1.00 45,190.95 Submarine base, New London, Conn ...... 2, 090, 000. 00 1,277, 799.06 812,200.94 610,361.70 201,839.24 Quarters for Marine Guards at nava! magazines...... •.•.....••. 100,000.00 88,233.12 11,766.88 6,422.37 5,344.51 Submarine facilities, navy yards, and stations ...... 1, 500,000.00 696,905.59 803,094.41 444,015.54 359,078.87 Power plants and distributing systems, navy yards and sta- tions...... 4, 250,000.00 1, 762, 291. 37 2, 487,703. 63 1,499, 153.91 988,554.72 Ordnance storage ...... : ...... 3, 000, 000. 00 2, 499, 859. 39 500,140.61 48.3, 217.85 16,922.76 0 7,329,628. 93 4, 181,761.86 3,147,867. 07 3, 507,457.10 2 359, 590. 03 ~~:~lt~¥:~~t~~lf~I ~;{~fi fe:ofs~~ :~ ~::::::::::::::::: :::: ~::::::::::::: 21,595,000.00 s, 008,125.77 13, 586, 874. 23 6, 272,457. 43 7,314,416.80 450,000.00 60,862.76 389,137. 2-l 3.32, 617. 24 56,520.00 ~~~~~J>:~~~ s~~ -~~~!. :.~r-~: ~~~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~: ~ ~ ~ ~~:::: :::::::::::::::::: 58,810, 807. 61 30, 336, 251. 12 28, 474, 556. 49 16, 177, 797. 94 12, 2?.6, 75, . 55 1 Carried to surplus fund June 30, 1918. . 2Deficit. 2238· -CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

Statement of condition of nat;aZ ·avprop1"iations made since Ma1·. 2, 191i, as of Nov. 1, 1918-Continued.

Authorizations Total amount Unobligated not yet ' appropriated EKPelld.itures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. covered by mcluding · Nov. 1, 1918. balance obligations estimated over· appropriat.ions. authoriz1ltions. . Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1. 1918. obligations Nov. 1, 1918.

YARDS AND DOCKS-continued. $74,996.18 $300, 003. 82 $301, 372. 99 1 $1,369.17 ~:a~~;~ra~~cfn~n~~~ti~~s::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: a~!~~;~: gg 2,210, 161. 88 4,266, 8.38.12 2, 24R,511. 32 2, 018, 326. 80 . Temporary storage facilities~~avy ...... •.•••••••••••••...... : . . •.... 5, 700,000.00 1,353,192.95 4, 341l, 807. 04 2771356.72 4, 069,450. 32 Naval air station site, Cape may, N. J...... 150, 000. 00 100,000._00 150,000.00 1 Nav~~~~~;~ ;-_. _. ___ ...... •...•••.•..••••••...... •...... "...... 20,000.00 20,000.00 Portsmouth...... • . •. . . •...... •. . 20,331.29 20,000. oo · · · · ·•·· · ··aai." 29· :::::::::::::::::: · ·•·· · · "33i," 299."oo Reimburse-ment for damaged property, Indianhead...... • ...... •...... •. 755.01 755.01 .•.•.•••.•.•...... •.••••••.••••.••..••••••..•..•.· .•.• 200 00 ~~~~ryoi nadrvyadl ocpr~s.o!fo· st"o" ~:::::::::: 4, ~·. ~: ' ooo. ...•...... ••••••••••.••... ••••••...... • n·. "Mais"."::::::::::::::::: :·::::: ::::::: gg ·•·····•·········· 4,550,000.00 ·•····••·•···•···· 4,550,000.00 l------+------~------~---~~--- l ------l --~~~-- Total, Bureau of Yards and Docks..•••••••••••••..... $5,150,000. 00 219, 117, 992. 43 104, 140, 605. 57 114, 977, 386. 86 49,231, 725. 0~ 65, 745, 661.77 . Naval operating base, Hampton Roads, Va. .• ••• • • ••• • • • ...... 1359,590.03 .•••••••••••••••.. 1359, 590. 03 257,885. oo · · ·i -pm= ceiit. i>iU3: ~!~e~=~~~:ry ·iard5:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::: ...... ~:: ~: ~- . ~ -~~~ ~~~t- ~-~~---: • · · • · • · ·~· i; 369." i7 · :: :·: :-::::::::::::: 11,369.17 ·•••·•·•·····•·••• Total, Bureau o! Yards and Doc~...... 257, 885. 00 1-...... 1 383,458. 43 ...... 1 125, 573. 43 SUPPLIES Ali."D ACCOUNTS. 354, 752, 284. 57 194,492,479. 45 160,259,.805.12 160,259,805.12 ~~lv~~~.~:Ji.".::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 117, 692, 151. 85 98,058,523.91 19,633, 627. 94 .... 59; 8i9; 625:86. 140,185,997.92 Maintenance, Supplies and Accounts ...••••.•••••••••••••.....•••.•.•.••••••• 30,586, 625. 00 21,906, 686. 41 S, 679,938. 59 2, 733,303. 21 5, 946,635.38 Freil!ht, Supplies anq Accounts ....••••••••••••••••••••••..••.•••.•••••••••••• 6,600,000.00 12,333,036.34 I 5, 733, 036. 34 6, 355, 709. 48 . 112,088, 745. 82 Fuefand tTansportation ...... : . ..•.••••••••••••••••••••.•...•.•••....••.•.••• 75,262,420.00 26, 462,312. 91 48,800, 107. 09 6, 118,187.25 42,681,919. 84 Naval Academ.y, Annapolis, Md ••..•••••••••••••••••••••••.•••.••.•.•.••••••. 55,000.00 26,764.93 28,235.07 8,037. 96 20,197.11 11 38,071,000.00 38,071,000. ()() j'i~~ ~~~~~ :J!~~ .f~~::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 5, 000,000. 00 1, 527,675.89 ·· · ·· 3;472; 324." ii · · · · · · 2; 462; 396: 36" ·· · ·· · i;009; 921:15 1 ------l ·------l------~------l -~~~--l----~~-- Total, Bureau of Supplies and Accounts .•.•.•.•••.•.•.•••.•••••.•.•.••. 628,019, 481. 42 392,878,479. 84 235,141,001. 5S 77,497,260.12 157, 643,741. 46 .

Estimated Estimated savings' by Percentage savings (work Percentage Percentage contract and estimated contemplated estimated Tot!ll estimated total estimated cancellations savings of not to be done) savings of savings or savings of Appropriation title. obli~tions of obligations exiSting or unobligated unobligated reductions. unexpended existing balances rnsting balances. balances. Nov. 1, 191g. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov.1, B18.

SUPPLIES AND ACCOUNTS.

5.i?.i~~~~~: ~ ~ :~ ~ ~~~: ~:~: ~~~: ~:~:: ~:~: ~~: ::::::: ~::: :~~:: :~:::::::: ::: ·~~t~m:1 J!: ~ :::::::::::::::::: ·':'·l~~~! ti Fuefand transpoitation, Naval Academy, Annapolis, Md... . . • • . • . . • • • • • • . • • . • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • . ~; l:; 8M: ~ ·46 "per "Cint 'Pius: 22,096, ooo. oo 46 per cent plus. ------~-----~----- : ~~------1 Total, Bureau of Supplies and .Accounts ...••... :...... • . . . . . • . • • • . • • • • . . • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • . 1 191,353,372. 62 .• : .....•• .....•. -1 1 191,353,372. 62

Unobligated Authorizations Total amount unexpended not yet appropriated; Expenditures to Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. balance obligations estimated over· covered by including Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. obligations appropriations. authorizations. Nov. 1, 191

CONSTRUCTION .AND REP AIR.

Constructio~ and repair ....•.•.••.••••••••••••· •••••••••••••• ...... Sl30, 177,340.00 $87,775,244. 49 $42, 402,095. 51 $23, 467, 328. 23 $18,934,767.28 Construction plants at navy yards •••••••.•••••••••••••••.• ...... 400,000.00 138,669.65 261,330.35 96,306.05 165,02 •. 30 Total, Bureau of Construction and Repair .••••••••••• ...... 130,577,340.00 87, 913,914.14 ... 42,663,425.86 . 23, 563, 634. 28 19,099,791.58

Estimated Estimated savings by Percentage savings (work Percentage Percentage and estimated contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated contract savings of Appropriation title. cancellations not to be don?{ savings of savings of or obligations obli~tions - of unoblfgate unobligated ::J~~a~g:. unexpEnded existing exJSting balances existing balances. balances. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918.

CONSTRUCTION .U."D REP AIR. Construction and repair...... • . • . • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • S5, 400,000. 00 23 per cent pluS. 1 S23, 400,000. 00 .' • .' ••••••••••• :... 1 $18,000, 000. 00 Construction plants at na. vy yards ••••••••••••• u ••••••••••••••••••••••• ~ •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Total, Bureau of Construction and Repair...... 5,400, 000.00 • • • • • • • • •• •••• ••• • l 23,400, QOO. 00 ••• ••• • ••• • ••••••• 118,000,000.00

1 Deficit. 1919. CONGRESSIOR.A.L RECORD-· HOUSE. 2239

.. ... v • v • Sta.tcment ot cot~clitiot~ ot naval ap1)~·opriatio11s 111ade si11ce Mm·. 2, 191"1, as of Nov. 1, 1918-Continued.

Authorizations Total amount _Unobligated not yet appropriated, Expenditures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. covered by including Nov. 1, 1918. · balance obligations estimated over­ authorizations. Nov. I, I9I8. Nov. 1, 1918. obUgations approprlations. Nov. 1, 1918.

STEAl! ENGCffiERING. Engineering ...... _...... __ ...... •...... •.•.....•...•.... S107' 230, 500. 00 S65, 292,324.12 $41,938,175.88 S13,562, 608.89 $28,375,566.99 Engineering experimental station, Annapolis, Md ...... •.. ------·····-- 273,000.00 I 1 2, 134.52 90,1:165.48 11,316.86 79,54 .62 190,000.00 ~::!;~!Jef~~ :;~~~-~~~~::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: 600,000.00 ~:~:~ -- ··- ·- 300;89i: 58. ····-- ·3a3;422: i3. ·- ··- · · -~- i5;53o.-~ Macbmery plant, navy yard, 'New York ..•.•...•.•....•.... ------­ 1,420. 33 Machinery plant, na>al station, ...... •..•...•••••...... •...... 394.66 ------·---.~29:60· \4~:~ ::::~::::::::~:~~~ 1'14~:g:: t------~------l·------+------l ------1------Total, Bureau of Steam Engineering .....•.•...•...•...... _... 108,29.i,314. 99 65,897,996.66 42,397,318.33 13, 957,347.88 28,439,970. 4:)

Estimated Estimated savings by Percentage savings (work Percentaj:!e Percentage conttact estimated contemplated estimated Total estimated total est-imated Appropriation t itle. cancellations savings of not to be done) savings of savings or savings of ol obligations obli~tions of unobligated unobligated redue:tions. unexpended existing existing balances exi. ting balances. balances. Nov. I, 1918. Nov. I, 1918. N 'w. I, I918.

STEA.l! ENG~TEERING. Engineering ...... _...... :...... !3,895,000. 00 29 per cent plus. 1 $12,()().1,433. 00 ..... _.•...•...•.• I $8, 109, 433. 00 'Engineering experimental station, Annapolis, Md ..... ----...... 1 14,500.00 .•. _...... • I 14,500.00 High-pm,·er radio stations ...... ___ ...... _.....•.•...... •...... _... _... .• L 16,530.55 .•...•..••.....••. . I 16,530.55 6 1,420. 33 ~~~:g ~~:~; ~!~J~~ri'o~, Ha~1-_::~: ~~:: :::::::::: ~ :::: :~:~: ~~~ ::.:~ :: ::::::::::::::: ~: ~ -- ·--- ·· ... i 34: 94· :: ~:~ ~::::~:~:~::: 13-l. 94 l------1 Total, Bureau of Stearn Engi.ne~ring ...... _. 3,895,000. 00 28 per cient plus. I 12, 035, 4.98. 49 1 8, 139, 078. 16

Authorizations Total amount Unobligated not yet appropriated, Expenditures to Unexpended Unpaid balance or Appropriation title. covered by including Nov. 1, 1918. balance obligations estimated o>er­ appropriations. authorizations. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. obligations Nov. 1, 1918.

MEDICD.'E A..'ID SURGERY. Medical Department...... ••...... _...... $12,621, i40. 00 15, 96,697.34 16,635,042.66 SB, 273,818.09 1-$1,638,775.43 Contingent, Medicine and Surgery...... 3,291,080. 00 1, 917,705.61 1,373,374. 39 I, 543,984.93 1170,610. 5i ,l3ringing home remains of officers, etc., Nary Department...... •...... 982,658.00 373,351.54 60a,306. 4.6 162,944. '(5 446,36L 71 Care of hospital patients ...... •...... ----- ...... • ...... 7,000,000. 00 4,867,064. 69 2, 132,935.31 2,331, 942.91 1199,007.60 Naval hospital, Port Lyons, Colo ...... _.••...... _.. . 19,600.00 .•...... _...... • 19,600.00 ••• ••• . .•• . •.• .. . . I9,600. oo ~~Bur~~Medi~eandSur~~--···--·----·- ~------_-__-_-_- __-_-_- __-_-_~-~-,-9-1-~-o-7_8._oo~ j~-u-,-1-44-,-8-ill-.-1-8~1 --w-,-7-ro-,-~-.-8-2+--u-,-3-U-,-6-00-.-6-84(--~-1-,-ID-,-a-1-.-~ l ======f======: ======?======l ======:: ~======; lLUU:!'\E CORPS.

Maintenance, Quartermaster Department, Marine Corps ..•...... •...... ~. 126,892,228. 00 54, 226,247. 66 'i2, 665, 9Ml. 34 28, 625,492. 61 46, ().1(), 487. 73 ~~~:~!~~:~~~~~::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::: ~g:~~:m:~ ··--~~·-~~:~:~. ~~:~J:E:~ :::::~:~:~~-~~~: ~~:~~:m:~ Tcla~MarineCmp s ...... :····----·-··-----~~------_-__-_-_- __-_- __-_-_- __+I- . -2-I-3-,2-6-l,-~---n-- J: --8-6-,-~-~-.63-0-.2-6-~, -~-2-~-~-~-.-2-~-.-w-~--28-,W-~-8-~-.-9-8~,--9-8-,W-~-~-.-6-8

Estimated Estimated savings by ~~ff:!i~~e saYings ("·ork Percentage Percentage contract savings of contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated Approp1htion title. cancc lla !ions obligations not to be doni') sa.'\iags of savings or savings of of obligations existing of tmobligatcd unobligated reductions. . unexpended existing b~lanccs existing balanres. balance. Nov. I, 1918. Nov. 1. 1:113. Nov. I, 1918.

l!EUICL'\"E Al\0 SlJF.GERY. 1 1 1 ~o~~!i.P~!~~~e ·:mci i3~~gery:::::::::::::: ~ ::::::::::: :::::::::::::: ~::: ~:::::::::: ~:::: ~: s\,~~~: ~~: ~g :::::::::::::::::: s!' ~~: ~~: ~ I Bringing home remains of officers, etc., Navy Department...... 1 1350,000.00 •....•.•.•.•.•.•.. 13.50,000.00 Care of hospital patients ...... •...•...•...... -- ~ -· .•...•...... __~_1,_096 _ _,3_2_ 1_.00-- ;---·_·._._-- _·_·_·_··_-_·_·._._. ___~ _1,_096 __._·,_3_2_1._00_ 1 1 Total, Bureau of Medicine and Surgery ..•.•.•.•...... 1...... __ ...... i 3, J4.4,725.48 1- .•.. _...... -I 1 3, 144,723.48 . .l!.\RJNF. C0RP3. . . I Reserve supphes, Yanne Corps ...... •.•.•.•.•.•...•...•.. ------_... _..... __ ...... 9, 677,200.00 66 per cent plus . 9, 677,200.00 66 per cent plus. Pay, Marine C~rps...... • . . . . .• .• . • . • . •.•.•.•.. ~4,518, 0.59. 86 12.46 per cent ... 6, 028,916.10 15 per cent plu'>. 10,546,975.96 27.8 per cent. Expenses, ?.farme Corps ...... •...•.•.•••.•...•.•.•.. _..•...... _. .. ; ...... _. 100 per cent. .... 25,000. 00 100 per cent.

Total, Marine Corp~ ...... : ...... •.. 4,51~, Ofi!!. S6 1.J,i05,116.10 ~ ---·----·-··-·-·-- 20, 249, 17j. 9G

1 Deficit. LVII-143 c·oNGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JANUARY 28,

Statement of condrtion of 11a1:a~ appr0111'iatiorrs made since Mar. ~, 1917, a8 ot Xot'. r, 1918 - Continucd. RECAPITULATION.

AuthoriZ"ations Total·amount Unobligated Unexpended Unpaid balance or Bureaus. not yet: appropriated, E.xpcndit'ure to balance covered by includin17 Nov. 1, 1918. obligations estimated over appropriations. anthori.za.tions. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918. obligations ' Nov. 1, 191 .

Secretary's office ...... f430, 700,000:00 l-!, 584, 768',899. 00" $494, 749! 773: 5I $1, 0901 019,.125.49 $723,366, 9.f7:.90' S3611 652, rn: s~ Yare& and Docks ...... •...... •... ~ ••.•••.•••...• ~- 5, 150, ooo, 00 2l!l, 117, 992! 43 ID!, ~4}. 605: 57~ 114 1 07!J 386.86 49, 231,725. 09 M,.-~4S, 001..77 2,379,366.16 38, 96,468. ... ~~~~~~:::~~::::::::~:~:::::::::~::::~:::~::::::::_ ::::: ···i46;9i5;7M.·oo- Ji:~:~~:~ · ~gk;~23:3{ ~;~~7~1:~ 417,100, (i68'. 4.7 269; 3!», 002. 65 23,563, 03-t. 28 19,0 1 791.~ 13, 957,a.J7. 28,4.39,970. 45 77,407:, 2li0. 12 157,643,741.46 i'Si~'?::::_:_::_:_: :_:_~:~:-~~~:_:_~:_:_:_:~:~~~~ ~;:::::~::~:::::: ~~.~~ ~:~~~ ~!~~i 12,312, 1)90. 6S 1 1,5!12,431.85 Marine Corp ...... ~ ...... •...•.... -. -· .....• .- ...... 2.13, 261, 90!. 92 &>, ·, 630. 26 127, 176, 27.{) 66: 28; 508, 82'J. 98 9 ,667,444.6.'1 Total...... 582,_700,000.00 1 1 3,9~9,_716, 208.7(); _1,5 ,no, 1.38 12,39l,OOJ,327.32 1, 3iS, OOS, 470. 56 1, Oi2, 996, SSG. 7S

Estimated Percentage E . limated savings by estimated savJngs (work Percentage Perccntago contract sa\tinJtS O( contemplated estimated Total estimated total estimated Bureaus. cancellations obliga~ons not: to be crone) savings ot savings or savings·or of obligations exJstmg er unobligated unobligated reductions. unc...~pended: e:dsting Nov. 1, 1913. balances e.:dsting balanres. baln!lccs. Nov. 1, 1918. Nov. 1, 1918.

Totar_ ...... - ~·· ··· · ··· · · ·· ...... 164, 129,214. 22 I 00, G29, 376. 4G

1 Deficit. The following tables set forth the items recomruendell for repeal by the comnrittee in the bill under consideration:

Statement of'appropriationll to be·corercd into the Trraaurv and ~uth.orization11 re-pealed, Milil4ry .Establishme-nt.

Purpose. I. Appropr..iations. Aut horizations• . TotaL

I· Si~nal' Service. qrtheJ.A.rmy, o~pcn o~: ..... :·...... •••.•...... • ~3,37:3,200.04 $45,000,000.00 $128,373,200.04 D1viliion or Military Aeronautics, militnry a1r scrv1co...... • ...... •...•...... M 000,000.00 ...... · 85,000,000.00 Bureau o! Aircraft Production, aerial appliances, ayiation station:;, Yocation training, etc...... 402,000,000.00 . . . • . • . • . . . • • • • • • • . • . • . • 402, 000,,000. 00 (======~======~======QunrtcriM...~r Corp~ : . · Gffieral appropnat10ns; Quartermustcr Corps...... • • • • • • . • . • . • . . • • . • • • . • . • . • • • • • • • • • • • . • • • • . 2, 996, 41.!, 'i'01. 14- 15, 750l 000. ()(), 3, 012,16!, 707.14 Pay of the Army..•.•...... •.•• . ·: - · ...... •.•.....•.•.•.•-~ ...... 00'1,5al, !111.-US . ....•••••.•.•.••• ~ ..... 654,55I,9:rt. 6 Supplies, services,.. and ~ransportut?nn, Qnartermast>erCorps ...•...•..•_ ...... • • • • • • • • . • • • • • . . 6 9n~ 4f.O. 4ii • • . • • • • • • • • • . • • • • • • • • • . . 6, !171, 460. 4.:J Horses-for Cavalry, Artillery, Eugmecrs, etc ...... ••..••• ~ ...... ··-···· .••~...... 3Z, l;:Q, 9.'i!LO ...... - ~ 3!!, 170, 95U. OS CiYilian military tr-aining camps ...... -·..... 244., 272. 41 . • • • • • • • • • • • • •• • • • • • • • • • 2-14-,272.41 Inland amf port storage and shipping fuciliti('S...... • ...... 50, 0..?6, 000.00 . . . . • . • •• •• • . . • . . • • • • • • • 50,026,000. 00 I------I------·I------Tota1, Quartermaster Corps...... 3, i40,:~S5,307. 76 15,750,000.00 3, 756,13:>,307. 76 1======9======9======Yedlcal Department ...... ~...... 54, 14.5, 513. 73 65, 000,000.00 119, 145,513. 73 (======i======9======Engiueer Department: • ~~~~~:~ ~~~~~~~ ~f \~~:~;~~~ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: m: ~~: ~: ~ ...... 200,000,000...... {)() . .. m: ~~. ~: n 1------+------~------TotaJ, Engineer Depa~tment...... 'i92, 5S9,r~~J~ frt, £~~;n:-_~:=...... ~...... m, 662,634.98 1,816, 514-,192.00 1, 991,1i6 , -26. !)~ Field artillery ammunition ...... '...... 2', 523,522, 251. 43 2, 523,522, 2.1t • .:3 Field artilleryr practiro ammunitiun ...... : ••••••••~ •••••••••.•~ .. •••••• •. •••••••••...... il, 41 , 177.33 6:3,175,001.00 L30 G93, 288'. 38 :Field artillery, oltcration•and maintenance...... 233, o. :1, 244'. 78 100,000, 000.00 333:~3,~78 J'l[anufactureofarms .. ···························· ········~····-················ .. ••••••····•• 210, 1;;z057.09 242, 4 1,200.00 453,359,257.00 Ordnancestorcs, ammunition...... 19S.,!M:t,310.37 I,117, 2S9,421.00 1, 316,236, TJl. 37 Hmall-arms tsrget practice ..••.•••••••..•.••••••..•.•••••••.•.•.••• ._...... 100, 1m, 390. 84 143, 861, 293. 00 24.3, 0091 683. 8..J: Automatic machine rifles •...... •••••.•••.•••••••••...•••••••...•••• -...... 256,215, ·143.12 441,7 8, 000.00 698,003,4-!3.12 Ar:mored motor cars...... ~······-·-····· .. ••••••••••••••••••••••• 197,339,362.40 406,640,000.00 G03. 979,362.40 •100,~,575.28 g

Total, Ordm.nceDepartmcnt ...•...•••••••... ··-····- ···. .• ...... •...... •. •. •. •. • ... . 1, 503,369,009 •.75 7, 71!,2.79,294. 70 9,217~643,30!. 45 !======~======~======Chemical Warfare er>ice...... •• ••• ...... •• .. • .• . .. . . • • • ...... •• . •.• • . . • ...... 183,932, 610.66 150,000, 000.00 333,932,610. 6B !======~======~======Grand total, Military Establishment...... 6, 844,79:1, Oi7. 70 8,190, 029,29-1.70 15,034, 82!, 372.40 1919. CONGRESSIONAL R.ECORD-HOUSE. 2241

Statement of appropriations to be covered into f.he TreasUTfJ and autllorimtion.s repealeil, Nar;al Establishment.

Purpose. Appropriations. Authorizations. Total.

Aviationin the ravy . ."...... S!J ,OOD,OO::J.OO ...... •...... ••. ~8,000,000.00 Bureau of Navigation, instruments and supplies ...... •..••..•••...... •...... •...... _l=====4,=500==,=o=oo=.=oo=l=__ =_=__ =_=_ =__= _=__=_= _=__ =_= __ =_=_ =__=_ ,l=====4,=500=,=ooo=_=oo Bureau of Ordnance: Ordnance and ordnance stores...... 8, 000, 000. 00 . • . • . • . • . • . • . • • • • • . • . • . • 8, 000, OO::J. 00 ~~~~F.~it~~iiiiiiii iiiiiii~iiiiiiiiiiii!iilili~iii~ii;·;:i;i!iiiiir.. iii ~:~;~:I ~·-<·i· ~· f'f ~: ~11:i Armament and ammunition, Coast Guard-cutters...... 79,574.03 ;;• • • . . . . . 79, 574.. 03 Ammunition for vessels...... 30, 000,000. OJ • • • • ••• ii, ooo; oo5. 00 41,000,000. 00 Ammunition for au:tiliaries and merchantmen...... 2, 677,500. 00 . . • • . • • ...... 2, 677,500.00 Navynitrateplant...... ~,111,881.00 .•.•.••...... •••••••••.. 8,311,881.00 FueJ lands for armor and pro; octile plants...... 24,513. 16 . . • • . • ...... • • • • • • • • • • . . 24,513. 16 Ammunition for merchant auxiliaries...... 1, 300, OOJ. 00 . • . . • • • • • . . • • • • • • • . • • • • . 1, 300,000.00 - Batteries for merchant auxiliarie3...... •. •••• ••• . ••• •••• •• . . . •• ••• . •••• ••• . •...... 1, 255,521.24 ...... • . . • . . . . • • . . . 1, 255,521.24 Total, Bureau of Ordnance...... 164, 833, 843. 6-a--;, .----3-1,000, O::JO. 00 195,833, 843. 69 ! ======!======~======rublic works, Bureau of Yards and Docks-

,,~~~~;~~~~(~~~~~~~~~i!!!!!·!·::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::;:;: .. 1111I II::;;!~ I;: ::1;;;llii :~: .. !ill I------·---I------1------Total, public \\Orks...... •••.•.••• •..•. •.• ...... 2, 713,627. 00 ...... • ...... 2, 713, 627._OJ === :======:======Dureau of Supplies and Accounts, fuel and tra:tS~ortation .....•...... ·•.•.•••••••••••••••.... 23,ros,O:)(). OJ 1-...... j 23,096,000.00 ======:======Bureau or Steam Engineerin;-mac';linery plant, New York Navy Yard...... 1,420. 33 I·...... -I 1, 421>. 33 !======·======:======Marine Corps: 7,000, 000.00 ii~:~:~t~~artei-iria5i6r;s· Dei>a!t~eil:i:.: :::~~~:~~~~~~:::::::~~::::~~~ :~:::::::: ::::::::: ~:ggg:886: gg :::::::::::::::::::::::: 20, ooo, 000. 00 14 1 1 975 96 14, 19J.. 'i75. 93 ~~~ell5e5,-:R6Stiive ·cori>s: :::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ,______, ~s, • O:

Il.ECAJlJTULATIO~.

MILITARY E STA.BLI::;JIMEX1'. ~~il~~:y~~~;~p;Pfo~~~t~~~~:-~-::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Quartermaster Corps ...... •.•..•.••...... ••••...•...... •...... Medical Department...... •...... •..•••......

~~~~~~~,~~i~~:: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::·:::: :::::::::::::::::::::::: 1------­ Tctal, Army ...... •.•.•.•.....•..••..••...... F======l ======l ======~~== NA.VA!. ES1'ABUSHllE...'

nre made about the extravagant waste of money, especially by The admini tration has the power, as has been ~tated, to cancel those not ·o much directly concel'lletl 'villi the uirection of tl1e contrart , nntl it 1Ja been pretty busily engage!l in their can­ war, ::tntl <.tscertnin whether the charge are true or fal e. alHl ce1Intlon. There are many lrgal contract , and I believe we if tl.u;,y are true to puni, h ·ome of the peoplB -C(Innected ''ith the Vtt sed .a bill to legalize contract that were made in good faith robbery of the Go\ernment, they will ha\e fililed in performing lmf 'Yet-c not legally executec:l. I think that legi ·Iation has ·not a function, one reason for which ga"'e them power. Now, I have :yet been enacted. I believe it is pencling in the Senate, if I am got another groueh. I read an advertisement which recently not mistaken. I hope it "i.ll be considered and enacted, because appcarcu ln some of the paper~ of the country. Here it is: I have no doubt that many of these contracts that lYere made The --- Servke o1Iers to men in g<>Od standing an opportunity to . verbally or by :wire or without legal formalities were made in go into business for themselves backed by a large manufacturing oon- good £ruth by the Government on the Q-ne hand and the con­ cern whose products nre in gr~t demand among farmers. You enn earn tractor on the.Dther lmnd. from $2,000 to $5,000 per yeru·, provided you can furnish two respon- 4SibLe bondsmen and a team or an :1uto. No other investment neee>sa.ry. It is a wonderful res;pollSibility that the adminll;tration bas, Men are now earning this income. in the mncellation uf contracts and where they are eanceled, That onnds like a get-rich-quick ad'\"ertisement published bx in adju.ting the damages that result from t11e.ir cancellation. an Oi'dinary advertiser, aml most people would assume that If it is vigorou.ly ana wisely .done, the sooner it is ('lone the somebody was intended to be stung by the adV"ertiser and to be better. Otherwise legislation will linger in Congre after Con­ blel1 properly. But, who i sues this advertisement, this $5,000 gre s until l'Ve ..are all de::ul ::md gone. If I recollect, in the ad4 per year for a man with no means to sell products to the poor jnstment ()f the French spoliation claims and many -otiler claims farmers of the country, intending to beat them? 'Vho issues . almost as ancient substantially a c n-tury pa ed. bef.oT claims this advertisement? The Go...-ernment of the United States! 9f that kind were adjusted by the Congress. The Government Tl1is advertisement is issued by the United States Employment stands to lo e and the irulividuul citizen of the Goyernment Senice, signed "Addres Frank A. WeaY·er, United States Ern- stands to lo e where adjustments are not made a prom_ptl as pl.oyment SerV"ice, Minneapolis, 1\linu." Now, I can appreciate possible. thB de ·ire and perhaps the need for the Government, through Now, I haye·no· doubt that in som.e of th se adjustments and some service of the Go\ernment, to attempt to take care of un- cancell.ations there will be a want of knowledge upon the part ·employed labor, but I can. not under tancl why the Government .of the Go·rermnent .or the agents -of the Gov.ernment. But that should pay the cost of an advertisement which anybody can g-et is no rea un Why :nn ndju tment should not be made. Perclumce, up designed to beat some one. Of course, this concern may be once in .a \Yhile--..and. Godknow.s; I d<> not, and I -could not pecify a reputable concern. I do not know, but it has some new -anybody or any bureau. or .any department-there mn.Y be care­ proiluct that it thinks it can work Qff on the poor farmer -or the · lcssnes ·, there may be dishonesty here or there; lmt a one .good rich farmers-they are all rich now, I 'believe, according to l\I.ember of 0oD.gi' I w.ant to give notice now that thl on· some tories-and then, in tead of paying the expe-nses of trying gre s, I think, is wide a wake, and I am quite ure the next will to do this, they want the Government of the United States to be and -I am more sure that the next one will be, and that the pay the expense. I belieTe there is no item in this deficiency · ligbt will 'be turned on if thel'e ha1'e been abw c . Anathema awropriation bill to coTer tllis sort of a scheme. maranatha to the man that undertakes to (]cal with important Mr. SHERLEY. If the gentleman will permit? matters who is not competent or does not act in good faith! 1 Mr. .1\IANN. Certainly. · Now., in the Lorcl'.s Praye.r the sentenee that .ntway ..app a.1e<.l 1\lr. SHERLEY, The bm·cn.u -<>f ,,·hich the gentleman speaks ta me str{)nger than any -other is, "Leatl us not into tempta- gets its funds out of the ·undry einl bill. tion," becau e if you are not led 'into temptation to do improper MT. 1\IANN. I know. things you will get ruong rery well. Oh, the weakne es of Mr. SHERLEY. I had hoped in connection with this bill to human nature are many, and \\ith oYer 100,000,000 of people 'find out what the balances were with the Labor Department, tlie there are a ),)er ·celit orus who are weak. Now, that standpoint Food and Fuel Departments, 'but it was not-possible to do it and forms an ad issue this kind of an aclyertisement. te1·s·outsicle of the AI·my and NU'\"YlLppropriations .nnd lluthorjza. In the ti:r. t place, such adYertisements might properly be barred tions in \\'hlch we can :r.un n.n.d glorify and legislate to :a -goou tt·om publication and is uance throuO'h the post office by .a-ny- adyantage. And I ·Jtoald not w-onder, inasmuch as this Congress body, but for the Government of the United State , on the theory · comes to an end on t"he 4th day of March next, U tbe next Con­ that it is .trying to secm·e. employment fo1· tho e out of employ· grcss that is organized 'Till have much of inV"estigation to do, meat, to try to tell men how they can earn $5,000 a year by taking thou.,.h not from a politieftl stfl.Ildpoint. Ob, I would not llarm a hold of some new patent and elling it at an outrageous price to dog; I would not harm the weakest or the stronge t of the human people out in the rural districts-it would be just as l>ad ami race or anything in an animal creation just for the mere matter perhaps more effecti'\"e if it were among the rich people in the of luu·ming. But this Congress. and the next Congress. and .the city -disu·icts, because usually they are easier taken in than the next Congres , :mel the next Con.gi·es ; thl admini o·ation, .nnd others-! protest again ·t the gross extravagance of a Gm·ern- the riert administration, and the next admini tration ·wm h ve ment or a governmental agency tlutt indulges in thi kind of _greatly more important ·work in -comparison with what -we bnve wnste of money. [Applause.] had in the past for legislati-on., for .economy, tor ~ing honse, · :Mr. CANNON. 1\fr. Chairman, I do not intend to consume for unscrambling the eggs and getting bacl\: to a normal condi· much time in general debate upon this bilL Under the five- tion where the American citizen under the Constitution, rich or minute rnle I may or ma-y not take some time, according to cer- · i[lOOr,- great or small, -will recelvB protection equally under that tain conditions; but I want to say that I have listened to the Constitution. .And then you will come back again to normal 1·emarks of the gentleman who report this bill, the chairman of times, where you will haV"e legislation as we have had heretofore. the Committee on Appro.pria.tions [Alr. SHERLEY], and I may where you will have the competition, whel~e each unit from the

state I .agree with the remarks of the crentleman1 my colleague standpoint of selfishness, to support himself -and support the from Illinois [Mr. MANN], to1.1Ching his ability, his industry~ nunily and ilie hearthstone, will do the b st he can to perform and his fidelity to tile public .service. {Applause.] But I u will get the be t of se1,-vi e. not mean I b"Dt at all in his class. I u ed' to think in normal You may ask if I am ·abtving anybody. No. I coul(l cr.iticiZfl times, having been -a me-mber of the Committee on Appropria· ome people in the United State·~ :but I am not .going to do it by tions for 24 years-its chairman during the War with Spain name. You could not lillvc a :mr. e condition than hn.s come and for some time after that; I think for 14 years -alto~ether- 'vlth this -war conclition. w·ars .are demoralizing. They must that I knew something touching the merits of propo ed appro- come and have come during the 'history of the lmmau race. priations. I want to say, while I am not an idle man, while I Tller.c is .an old ma_ im that ·eaehes away back .a thousan.d or bave grown older and d.-o not claim to haV"e that same industry - two thousand years, to the ef! ct that "in war law :are ilent.~· and same capacity physically ol' mentaUy I had in former years, And that is trtte. yet I have done the best I conld in the performance of my duties l\Ir. FESS. Will the gentleman yield before he lea'\"es that? ns a member of the committee: ,and J: am just deHghted th.at I Mr. CANNON. Yes. was associated with the gentleman from Kentuck-y IMr. SnER- 1\Ir. FESS. A good many Members of the Housa !hav beru.·d LEY], because he h-as far greater -ability, far greater indu try, I this statement ab-out investigations nnd exposures. '\Vhat d6 clothed with less of age than I have, and I grew Yery soon tore- y()11 expect to gain by _it? 'Vhat ad a.ntage will there ·b< , when -· pose confiden·ce in him, kept the be t track of this .bill I could, -the thing is done, in making any inV"".est1.,.attons, and 'e=r~n sug- · and I still retain that confidenee. So mucl1 fo1· that. gest that the1~e is nothlng to it a;cept to discre

ment in the eyes of the world? I should like to have a man of is not perfect. I would be glad if 'le could remove the tempta­ the distinction of the gentleman on hi'3 feet now make answer tion to spend money that has 'been appropriated and authorized to that general statement that we hear so often. by repealing the laws appropriating it ancl authorizing it to the 1\lr. C~~OX Well, I can not specify, although "I bae me aggregate of $15,000,000,000. [.Applause.] · doot "about many things that have been done. I am charitable 1\lr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from Wyoming [Mr. and cnn make allowance for things that have to be done in haste 1\!o:xDELL] such' time as he :may desire. if they are wisely and honestly done. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. Now, I think neither side of the House would claim for a The committee informally rose; and Mr. GAR 'IER having taken moment that there had not been serious mistakes made, some of the chair as Speaker pro tempore, a message from the Senate, them excusably made, because action had to be had, and some by Mr. Waldorf, its enrolling clerk, announced that the Senate of them, I have no doubt, not honestly made. Well, I think that had agreed to the report of the committee of conference on the we may ascertain the condition during the present and during disagreeing votes of the· two Houses on the amendments of the the recent past and punish those who have improperly acted Senate to the bill (H. R. 13708) providing for the relief of such and to give notice to those who are called upon to act now and populations in Europe, and countries contiguous thereto, outside notice to those who shall succeed us that we had best not draw of Germany, as may be determined upon by the President as the blanket concealing what is past and forget it, because thereby necessary. you \\ould be encouraging other violations of law through mal­ SEOOND DEFICIENCY ~PR.OPRIATION BILL. administration. Now, I am not going to say or intimate-because I do not The committee resumed its session. know-whether during this war there have been more mistakes The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Wyoming is recog­ made in the United States by Congress and under the administra­ nized. tion than have been made ill other countries, considering the size Mr. 1\IONDELL. Mr. Chairman, I think at the beginning of of the great conte t; whether more mistakes have been made rela­ my remarks, which I hope will be reasonably brief, I should tively than were made during the War of the Revolution, ac­ state to my C{)lleagues and Members of the House who are not cording to numbers, or during the War of 1812, or the Mexican acquainted with the organization of the Committee on Appro­ \Var, or the Civil War, or the Spanish-American War. Those priations that I am not a member of the subcommittee on are behind us. The present is with us. I am a believer in for­ deficiencies which prepared this bill, but it so happened that I giveness, I will say to my friend from Ohio [1\fr. FEss]. was requested by the chairman to attend the hearings in con­ "Blessed is he who forgives." Yes; I believe in all thatJ nection with the preparation of the bill which we now have Shakespeare, in llis Timon of .Athens, says, "Nothing emboldens before us, and so far as I was able to do that, and still give sin so much as mercy." attention to the hearings before the subcommittee on the sun­ For the remainder of tllis Congress or in the next Cong1·ess dry civil bill, I did so. I do not, therefore, claim to be familiar we are not going to confine ourselves· to "stomach aching" on with all of the facts on which the final action of the committee the one hand and criticizing on the other; but .something of was based. · that kind will have to be done. There will be plenty of work The hearings and examination have been most exhaustive. for these inYestigating committees that have not been holding The chairman of the committee has again shown his ability and meetings formally for many years and have not been exercising capacity as an investigator, as a seeker after and a developer their. jurisdiction as committees on expenditures. There will be of facts, and he has been ably assisted by the members of the plenty of chance for investigation. However, I would not neg­ subcommittee on both sides. lect the proper legislation in order that we might investigate. This bill, unique in all the history of legislation, proposes to The next Congress, no doubt, as this Congress has done, will repeal appropriations heretofore made amounting to approxi­ perform its duties with such wisdom aS· it may have. I have mately $7,000,000,000. It proposes to withdraw authorizations great confidence in Congress. I have great confidence in the to contract heretofore given amounting to approximately $8,000,- House and Senate. I have great confidence in the courts. 000,000 ; $15,000,000,000 in all, an enormous sum, a gratifying There is plenty of room to criticize here and there and yonder. sum, taken from the totals that might have otherwise been I have great confidence in the .American people, proceeding exp~nded. And yet, after all is said and done, it is not ex­ under the Constitution and the law. I am a pretty "mad traordinary that we are able to withhold from the 'Var Depart­ democrat" in the broad sense of the word. In my recollection ment approximately $7,000,000,000 of appropriations out of a I lla ve trod every path, almost, from the cradle up to the time total of $24,()09,000,000 granted to that department since the war I expect I ought to die, that the humblest citizen of the United began and out of a total of nearly $17,000,000,000 appropriated States has trod in his early life. I repeat, I am a democrat for the 'Var Department within a twelvemonth. Only four in the broad sense of the term, antl I am a citizen of the one months of the fiscal year now running had passed when the country on earth that has the greatest capacity for self­ armistice was signed, and yet the committee was only able to · government [Applause.] .And, God knows, I want it to keep find the sum of less than $7,000,000,000 out of appropriations that capacity. [Applause.] of almost two and one-half times that sum for the' fiscal year There is talk about autocracies and democracies. Who are which it felt it could safely withhold. So much of the WTar the autocrats? The Kaiser was one; the .Austrian monarch Department, indicating the tremendous rapidity with which we was another. There was autocracy in Turkey. There was were spending money at the time the armistice was signed. autocracy in Russia, and Russia has graduated in anarchy. So far as the naval service was concerned, after the most There is not much of autocracy in Great Britain. They have careful and painstaking examination of its estimates, the com­ a prettY good Government there, by the people, a pretty fair mittee found only $331,000,000 of its appropriations for 12 democracy there, because it has been well said that they re­ months that could be saved, the war ending 8 months before spond promptly to the sentiment of the people as it is voiced the close of the fiscal year. What would have been the condi­ at the ballot box. .An Englishman said to me, " While we ·have tion of affairs with regard to appropriations had the war con­ g1·eat respect for the King, yet we all understand that be is tinued? How much would the Navy have spent at that rate. like unto a figure 9 with the tail cut off." [Laughter.] Well, had conditions existed as they were at the time of the signing thank God, that is not exactly the case in this country, although of the armistice? What 1t means is that the Navy has spent sometimes I wish part of the tail was cut off. [Laughter.] I and proposes to spend as much money in 4 months of war speak with high respect for everybody. · ·and 8 months of peace as it was estimated it would spend Somebody said once of a: friend of mine-a Member of Con­ in 12 months of war, and that the .Army in 4 months of war gress, by the way-and the remark originated on that side of and 8 months of peace expects to spend nearly three­ the House about another man on that side of the House, and quarters as much as it estimated and as was given in appro­ both are out of Congress and both are dead: "See D.; he sets priations for a full year in the highest tide of the great war. his tongue to running and then goes off and leaves it." It is not remarkable that the committee was able to withhold [Langhter.] I do not want to be subject to that criticism nor and withdraw these sums. The extraordinary thing is that do I want to be subject to another criticism, such as one that these services were spending money at such a rate that with ex-Speaker Reed made about a Member· of Congress who was only four months of war and one-half of the year past and gone talking and consuming a good deal of time. .A page came to me the very great proportion of the appropriations were either and said," The Speaker wants to see you." I walked up to the spent or so obligated that the appropriations can not be safely Speaker's chair, and I said, "·what is it, 1\fr. Speaker?" repealed. The committee is not therefore entitled to any par· -·.roe," he said, mentioning the Member's name, "when he ticular credit because it has brought in these repeals and with­ talks he subtracts from the sum total of human knowledge." drawals of authorizations in the sums carried in the bill. It [Laughter.] is, however, entitled to credit for having conceived the idea of For fear I will do the same I will bring my remarks to a bringing in a general repeal bill, and it is entitled to great close, with the statement that I believe this is a good bill. It credit for the businesslike thoroughness of the examination 2244 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JANUARY 28,

made, a thoroughness which will be demonstrated by a perusal concluded that in order to play a perfectly safe game it would of the hearings, which do not, by ·the way, contain half of the be necessary to increase their est imates of the amount of lia­ testimony actually given before the committee. The subject bilities that must be met. Out of the sums remaining enterprises was gone over with very great thoroughness, particularly with can still be carried forward that ought not to be carried for­ regard to the 'Var Department, and not once, but.several times, ward. Expenditures can be made that in my opinion ought to in an effort to still further increase the amount which might be be dispensed with, and it is for that reason I would lluve been withheld and withdrawn from expenditure. glad to have seen the appropriations still further trimmed in Mr. TILSON. Will the gentleman yield for a question there? order, if possible, through this action to give the Congress con­ Mr. MONDELL. I yield to the gentleman from Connecticut. trol, to a very considerable extent at least, of the peace-time 1\lr. TILSON. The gentleman says that not half the testi- activities of these war organizations. mony appears in the printed hearings. Was the remainder of Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Will the gentleman yield? it confidential, or is there any reason at this time, after the Mr. 1\IONDELL. I wilJ. war is over, why the information upon which the gentleman's l\Ir. GREEN of Iowa. The gentleman is aware of the fact that committee based its conclusions should be withheld. from the it is seldom indeed that a department having a sum awarded to it remainder of the House? does not spend all that is given it. Mr. l\lONDELL. The gentleman is a member of a committee l\1r. 1\fONDEI,L. I thank the gentleman for that suggestion. which has exhaustive hearings, and the gentleman knows that It leads to this thought, that while the war was on-and I was in taking testimony before a committee there must necessarily one of those who said and practiced it-it was our duty to give be a good deal of preliminary talk and examination in many th~ departments of the Government every dollar which they in­ cases in order to arrive at a mutual understanding as to· the sisted was necessary for the successful conduct of the war. We character of the information sought and what can be hoped were justified in that attitude. It is the only attitude that a to be secured in the way of evidence before beginning to make legislative body could properly take in time of war in the ab­ the official· record. That is for the purpose of making the sence of unquestioned knowledge and information on the subject, record clear and concise, and not burden it with talk back and which a legislative body can very seldom have. It was argued forth intended to clear up the situation. This in order that in in favor of such a policy that the money would not be spent unless the record the questions may be to the point and the answers it is needed. clearly intelligible. · There was very little testimony withheld · This' bill is a denial of any such claim or suggestion as that. from the record because of its confidential character. There Why are we able to withdraw but $7,000,000,000 from the enor­ was some testimony as to the saving in expenditure expected mous war appropriations totaling $24,000,000,000 since the war to be made by reason of closing out contracts which it. would began, with the 'var virtually at an end four months after the serve no good purpose to publish at this time, bqt it was a beginning of the fiscal year? Because the ':Var Department · very small part of the testimony given. There are sometimes having the money proceeded to spend it as fast as they could. conversations between the chairman or members of a com­ The only reason why there is any considerable sum to take back mittee and the gentlemen who appear before the committee to is not because there was careful consideration of needs and a give testimony, in the way of opinions expressed, which while withholding of placing of obligations in view of such considera­ interesting and forceful do not necessarily belong in a printed tion, but because the productive capacity of this mighty Nation, statement of testimony given before the committee. great as it is, far beyond that of any other people on earth, was 1\lr. TILSON. I think the gentleman's idea is a good one, not great enough to enable them to spend the money they had, and I wish more committees, including my own, would follow or even contract to spend it. that idea of eliminating nonessentials. In the main, they went just as far and just as fast as the Mr. MONDELL. The idea is not mine. It has been the ability of the Nation to make or the disposition of the citizens practice of the Committee on Appropriations since I have been to contract would allow them to go, ·with the result that they with it, and it is peculiarly the practice of the present chairman are obligated to take vast quantities of material for which we of the committee, who endeavors to clear a situation before the have no need and much of which is of little peace value-which record is made. I think it is a wise and proper procedure. are practically of no value. Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Will the gentleman yield? I do not want to be unfair.· I realize the pressure upon all · Mr. MONDELL. I yield to the gentleman from Iowa. these people to provide material, and more material, and still Mr. GREEN of Iowa. If the War Department have been more material, to pile it mountain high against our needs over spending money at so greatly an increased rate over what they :ronder, and that they knew they would be seriously criticized originally estimated, what assurance has the gentleman that the if there was any shortage. Therefore the necessity of procur­ amount now allowed is going to be sufficient to carry the de­ ing and contracting material in great quantities. The difficulty partment through? was there was no careful intelligent consideration of the amount Mr. MONPELL. I do not think anyone need have any fear of certain classes of material that under all the circumstances on that point, and I am glad the gentleman asked me that could be, or was likely to be, used. So that the amount bought question, because it is in line with what I have in mind to and the amount contracted for was based very largely not on discuss. the probable needs carefully considered but on the capacity o.f As vast as are the sums of appropriation repealed-and the country to make and the willingness of the contractor to $7,000,000,000 is quite a considerable suffi· even in these days­ agree to make. · we still leave available such enormous sums that by no possi- . Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. Wil1 the gentleman yield? bility can the 'Var Department or the Navy Department run Mr. 1\IONDELL. I will. short in any necessary and essential line of activity. And while Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. I am interested in what the I am personally of the opinion, from what I have heard of the gentleman has to say about the expenditures in the Navy De- . testimony, that we might safely have still further increased the partment, and I have been wondering during the course of his repeal of appropriations ·by several hundred million dollars, I remarks if the gentleman would be kind enough to particularize yield my ·opinion in that matter to members of the committee a little further, as it might have some bearing on the appro­ who are better informed as to some of the details of the ex­ priations asked for from the regular Naval Committee. So far amination than I am. I believe, however, that we ;could have in­ the gentleman's remarks have been rather general to be of creased very largely the sums of appropriations repealed, not only any value in detail. for the War Department but for the Navy Department as well. Mr. MONDELL. . I thank the gentleman for making the sug­ But the Navy Department clings to its appropriations with a gestion, because what I have said relates very largely to the tenacity that leads one to doubt the proverbial story of the Army and Army expenditure. The committee did not go into drunken sailor, and to believe that the·citizen who, while in an anything like as detailed· an investigation of naval expendi­ intoxicated condition, flung his money about so freely was not a tures that they did of the Army expenditures, for the very good sailor at all. [Laughter.] He must have belonged to some reason that they were met at the threshold with the state­ otl1er branch of the service. At any rate, the Navy Department ment that the Navy did not have any considerable amount of certainly does not willingly let go of any of its appropriated money they could give up. The committee did withhold $334,- money when it is sober, and the Navy Department was very 000,000 from the Navy, but turned around and gave them sober all the time it was before the committee. $280,000,000 ; so, as I recollect it, we are only $54,000,000 to the As a matter of fact, the longer the hearings continued the good as far as the Navy is concerned, as between pulling back smaller the sum of the contemplated repeal came to be. Early and handing out. The naval appropriations for the fiscal year in the progress and development 'of the investigation there was 1919 have amounted to almost $1,800,000,000. About $54.000,000, a very considerable hope of a withdrawal of appropriations sev­ or less than 3 per cent, is the net salvage. eral hundred millions of dollars in excess of the sum actually lli. KELLEY of Michigan. I judge from what the gentle­ carried in the bill. But as time went on and the gentlemen man says that there were projects that the Navy Departmenf connected with the services further considered the situation, they insisted on carrying forward that could have been cut off. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. ~245

Mr. lUONDELL. My statements in regard to these matters Mr. UO:NDELL. Having given all the sums that were asked relate principally to the Army, and what I am saying, except for, wh~re the need and necessity could not be absolutely, what I saiesolve our doubts in favor of the opinion of those who are accurate estimates? charged with certain responsibilities touching the establishments Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman means that they did not we created, and particularly affecting the interests of the men have so much to give back because their estimates were more who composed them. . reasonable or more nearly within their actual needs? Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. l\Ir. Chairman, will the gentleman Mr. LAZARO. The Navy was really a going concern and yield? had its nucleus organization, whereas the Army, under the new Mr. MONDELL. ·Yes. draft system, was new. Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. In considering these various Mr. MONDELL. I am not inclined to make comparisons. bureaus, having to do with the expenditures for aviation, did l\Ir. LAZARO. I am just asking the gentleman the question the Committee on Appropriations come to any opinion as to for information. whether or not there was great waste due to the multiplicity: Mr. MONDELL. It has heretofore been developed, and de­ of agencies contracting for aviation materials and trying to veloped by the chairman of this committee and stated by him erect an aviation outfit? on the floor at the time the first deficiency bill was brought 1\lr. MONDELL. There is no way of determining whether­ in, what character of estimates the War Department made, the Committee on Appropriations as a committee had any: e timates apparently with little rhyme or reason. The gentle­ opinion on that subject, because the committee was not called man will remember the details of those estimates as explained upon, officially or unofficially as a committee, to express an by the gentleman from Kentucky at that time and as elaborated (lpinion upon that matter or to function upon it. somewhat by myself. Congress could not very well withhold If the gentleman asks my opinion--. an. appropriation insisted upon of $94,000,000 for bandages, l\fr. KELLEY of Michigan. That would be very acceptable. but there was not a Member in Congress who did not know Mr. MONDELL. Which may or may not be of value, I would that amount of bandages would wrap every soldier in the say that in my opinion there was enormous waste, common to all Army like. Rameses when he was laid away for his long slum­ of these enterprises, and additional waste in view of the -fact ber. The Military Committee ought to have known when they that so many different agencies of the Government had to do made their appropriations for horseshoes and forage and with the same sort of activity, each insisting on its own plant matches and other things that they were appropriating much and facilities. Until we shall once more in the grace and provi­ more than the Army could possibly use for such purposes unless dence of God have a Governm~nt in which the legislative branch they shod the soldiers with horseshoes and had the soldiers controls the policy, that will go on. We have been drifting into put in most of the time striking matches. The vice of that a condition-and I am not saying that wholly with regard to this kind of estitp.ating is that it gives a fund that is used or con­ administration by any means--under which the great policies of tracted, and when you come to the piping times of peace, or the Government are not fixed and established 'by the men the to the dawn of that glad and happy time, you find that no people select for that purpose, but by executive officials who, matter how large the appropriations were and how much in through one plan of persuasion and coercion and another, manage excess of actual need, there was a temptation, which was un- to successfully fix and establish the national plans and policies. . fortunately frequently yielded to, to spend the money or obli­ I regret as much as anyone can, as a Member of this House," gate it if there was a place under the sun where the matelial to be compelled to say that, but it is the truth, and it is a u·uth could be found or a citizen willing to contract to furnish it. for which we are all somewhat responsible. There were some things brought out in these hearings and in Mr. McKENZIE. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? other hearings touching matters on which some committee of Mr. l\IONDELL. Yes. the House ought to have functioned before this time. It is not 1\fr. McKENZIE. The gentleman from Wyoming, of course, the business of the Committee on Appropriations to legislate is on the Committee on Appropriations. I want to ask the gen­ touching military affairs. How many camps and cantonments tleman from Wyoming if he does not believe that some of the shall we permanently maintain in this country? How many evils of which he has been speaking in connection with the l\1ili­ enormous areas for artillery practice, how many aviation tary Establishment of this country could be cured to some extent schools and fields, how much money shall be spent on enterprises if all the power to make appropriations for the Military Estab­ of that character? Where shall work cease, and to what extent lishment were centered in one committee? shall it be carried forward? Up to this good hour it is all left And I want to ask, further, whether or not he would not to the 'Var Department, except for suggestions that may have favor such a proposition? been made here and there by some one on the floor of the House Mr. 1\IONDELL. Well, now, frankly, I will say to my friend or the Senate. We have left money enough in the hands of the that I do not care to give expression to the opinion I have on War Department, after withdrawing all these vast sums, that that subject in this presence. We have had some experience in it may go as far as it desires with regard to any one of these the Committee on Appropriations relative to Army appropria­ camps or cantonments or fields. tions we did not originate that leaves in my mind certain opin­ I did not have the opportunity of hearing the chairman of the ions which I do not think I care to express here and now. Of committee make his statement, but I presume in the course of course, the gentleman's inquiry involves the possibility of trans­ his remarks he referred to the opinion to be voiced by him of ferring it all to the Committee on Appropriations-- the members of the Committee on Appropriations as to what l\fr. McKENZIE. Yes. should be done and should not be done with regard to three 1\Ir. MONDELL (continuing). Full jurisdiction over it. cert;.;'l.in camps. l\fr. McKENZIE. Yes. Mr. SHERLEY. l\.Ir. Chairman, if the gentleman will permit, Mr. MONDELL. In that connection let me make this sugges­ I did not, although I had a memorandum to do that. I was tion : In my opinion it would be a splendid thing for this land of diverted, and I talked more than two hours. I propose to do ours if one committee appropriated for eve1·y branch of the Fed­ that, however, when the various items are reached before the eral Government. Not because one committee has more able or bill is passed. courageous men than another, but that a committee having to Mr. 1\IONDELL. Then I shall leave that to the gentleman do with one service in the very nature of things comes to be from Kentuclry, because that is a matter that he was to present greatly influenced by that service. I have heard folks say-I to the House and which I supposed he had presented -as he am not expressing it as ~ny opinion or denying the truth of it­ tells you he will do so later. that committees having one branch of the service to appropriate Mr. GREEN of Iowa. There is another question which I for come to be to a considerable extent simply the mouthpiece think the gentleman might well propound with reference to of the particular service for which they appropriate, the cham. these other committees, and that is, How much longer are we pions of and apologists for that particular service. going to continue in time of peace making lump-sum appro­ Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. Will the gentleman yield? priations by tens of millions or even hundreds of millions? Mr. MONDELL. Yes. Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman does not exp~ct. me to Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. I have some sympathy with what answer that question, does he? the gentleman is saying, but are there hours enough in a

.1\Ir. 1\fONDELL. I grant you that. the plan which my state­ fore the war, and we are now waiting for that list before giv­ ment suggests is not without its serious difficulties. It would ing our advice. [Laughter.] Does tl!at answer the gentleman's mean a dividing of one committee up into many subcommit- question? . tees, and you might find in those subcommittees the_same condi­ Mr. MONDELL. Well, it is as good an answer, I take it, as tion to which I have referred; but this is true, and I say this can be given, becam~e the gentleman is apparently in possession of the work of the Committee on Appropriations not because I of all the information there is on the subject. But how about am a member of that committee, but because I have watched Nitro, W. Va.? What are you .going to do about the $60,000,000 the .work of that committee for 22 years, that because of the investment? fact that the committee in its work has a survey of all public Mr. GORDON. We have ne,;er done anything about it up to activities-sooner or later, either in direct appropriations or date. We appropriated lump sums, and you say you voted for deficiencies, it is brought into contact with every activity of all of them. the Federal Government-the committee takes a broader and Mr. MONDELL. That particular lump sum I voted for after more impartial view. of governmental affairs than any other a statement made before our committee with regard to it, to committee. By reason of the character of its work it is never the effect that no part of it was going to be used for the build­ tempted to become the special champion of any particular serv­ ing of plants unless it might. be a few thousand dollars . . That ice. It has to balance one service against another and · one statement was made, and is of public record, relative to the class of appropriations against another, and comes to realize appropriation out of which that costly plant was built or more clearly, I think, than a one service appropriating commit­ started. I am informed it is to be yanked. Does the Military tee does, that one of the most important functions of an appro­ Committee know? priating committee is not- to give but to withhold. In such a Mr. McKENZIE. 'Vill the gentleman yield right there? general committee we learn that the most energetic and faith­ Mr. MONDELL. I will. ful public servant in the executive departrrfents is frequently Mr. McKENZIE. Out of what appropriation is the War De­ the man who must be most checked in his demands upon the partment now paying for land in South Carolina and in Ken­ Public Treasury. tucky for three additional Artillery firing fields? Certainly it . Mr. SHALLENBERGER. Will the gentleman yield? did not come from our committee. . Mr. MONDELL. I do. Mr. SHALLENBERGER. I gather from the gentleman's Mr. 1\fONDELL. May I ask the distinguished gentleman, very interesting discussion that he criticizes the extent of our who is a member of the committee that legislates on such mat­ appropriations for the war, does he not? ters, under what law: or appropriation they are paying for it? l\fr. l\IONDELL. I could not well do that, for I voted for Mr. McKENZIE. I do not know. every· one of them. Mr. MONDELL. Then, who does, if a member of the Mili­ Mr. SHALLENBERGER. Does not the gentleman think that tary Committee does not? the reason we have this amount of money to be saved to the l\cfr. GORDON. It is under the same appropriation as the Treasury is rather because of the termination of the war than Nitro plant about which you speak. The Committee on Appro­ because of appropriating too large a sum? Is it not the gen­ priations probably appropriates for those. tleman's opinion that if this war had gone on for the fiscal year Mr. 1\fONDELL. The Committee on Appropriations does not as it was going on that instead of being able to turn money control or assume to control the policy of the War DepaTtment. into the Treasury we would in all possibility have had a deft- H --it di~, its items would go out on a point of order. The· gen­ . cfency to make good? . tleman knows that. ·Mr. MONDELL. My friend did not hear my opening re­ I do not want to criticize any committee of this House. marks. Heaven knows that \\e all have troubles enough, and I realize Mr. SHALLENBERGER. I did not. that the gentlemen on that committee are strong, honest, coura­ Mr. MONDELL. Because in my opening remarks I empha­ geous men. I do not want to criticize them, and I will not criti­ sized that fact that the wonder was not that we were able to cize them. But may I be-allowed to criticize a policy or a lack withhold $7,0Q0,000,000 of appropriations but that, with only of policy? I ~nk there are some very fertile fields to plow, four months of the fiscal year in war and but six months passed, and they are mighty weedy, and some one ought to get into so large a portion of the enormous appropriations made must, them, and some one ought to give the opinion of the Congress in the opinion of the officials charged with responsibility, still touching the policy that is to be followed. l\1y understanding is remain subject to obligations that had been placed upon them. that the 1Var Department wants to continue all the camps and Why, had the war gone on at full tide, there is no calculating all the cantonments and all the firing fields and all of everything how much money we would have spent; and, 'inasmuch as we else that it has. It has abandoned Nitro because even the 1Var only withhold $54,000,000 from the Navy, it is very evide!!t that, Department could not stand for it. But otherwise the work had the war continued, the Navy would have spent very much largely goes on. There is this other side to it. After all, is it more than had been appropriated. not the duty of Congress to say to the War Department what Mr. SHALLENBERGER. Is it fair to criticize the War De­ they should do? After all, is it not our duty to say to these partment for placing orders that Congress had empowered them gentlemen, " This iS our plan; this is our policy "? 'Vho is to to place, no matter how large they were, if they were to be blame that they go on with these developments and building nml required as the war went on? buying programs, when the Congress, which is supposed to fix Mr. l\IONDELL. I discussed that at some length a moment policies both in peace ~nd in war, has expressed no opinion in ago. regard to them, except as our committee has expressed an Mr. SHALLENBERGER. I am very much interested, and opinion \'i'lth regard to certain camps, which will be stated by that is the reason of the remark. the chairman of the committee as the bill is discussed? We l\!r. 1\IONDELL. · I did discuss that at some length. I want owe it to the War Department to say to them what the Con­ to discuss for a moment some of the great enterprises, the gress thinks about these matters. If they go on with all the great objects of expenditure. which are still fully and com­ camps and cantonments and all of the other plants to a .final pletely" under the control of the War Department, the policy conclusion with the moneys that arc left-and there will be touching which Congress has at no time had in its control or plenty of moneys left after the $7,000,000,000 are withdra\\n­ guidance. Let me again suggest now that a very distinguished we will not be free from responsibility. member of the Committee on Military Affairs is here and I can Congress told them what to do in time of war, and that was speak freely; that I have not been able to understand why the to provide for the men that Congress ordered into the fielcl, ·pre­ Committee on Military Affairs has not functioned, beginning pare for the great struggle, fight it to a finish, and they went directly with the signing of the armistice, on the proposition of about doing that. But what of the future? If we are going to what the policy of the Government is going to be touching all have "Q.niversal military service ·in the United States, and every these camps and cantonments which have been built at such man of a given age in camp, we may want all the camps and can­ an enormous expense-- tonments. If we are not, we do not need them. I take it that 1\Ir. GORDON. I will answer the gentleman. nobody on the Committee on Military Affairs hesitates to e::\..--press .Mr. l\10NDELL. And touching the lands on which they are an opinion, because they have not mad.e up their minds on the located. . highly important subject. If we are going to become a great Mr. GORDON. I will tell the gentleman why. The Secretary military Nation at the time when we are preaching peace on of 'Vnr appeared before our committee and said he was con­ earth, good will to men, then we want all the camps and firing sidering buying these cantonments and had all the authority fields we have; but if we are not, if we mean what our eloquent he needed. and all the money he needed, but he · would like to spokesman is saying for us over yonder, then we want to halt ha\e the advice of the committee on it, and before giving our some of these tremendous expenditures of the public money and adYi cc we asked him to give us a list of the real estate that the try to get back to a sane and sound basis,· whatever we may de­ War Depnrtmt.'nt owns, including what had been purchased be- termine that sane and sound basis to be. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 2247

Mr. . Chairman, there wilf be many thirigs to be inquired into We were to get so much a day for men and teams and tools after the 4th of March. There will be no more things to be in­ and machinery and 10 per cent on top of that. As the old quil·ed into because it is a Republican Congress than ought to gentleman who owned the outfit bade me good-by, smirh.'ing be inquired into if the Congress were Democratic. As one Re­ because he was going to get out of a hard job, he said, "Frank, publican I want to express the view and the opinion that the I hope you will come out of this thing with some conscience Republican Party when given a majority of this House by the left." American people wns not granted any Hcense to run amuck. Mr. BUTLER. Did the gentleman succeed. [Laughter.] The ''orst thing we could do from a political standpoint Mr. MONDELL. I will leave that for the gentleman to judge. would be to try to use the faults and the failures of this war Modesty forbids an answer. [Laughter.] for political purposes. But, on the other hand, billions of the Mr. BUTLER. I think you did. people's money have been spent; great programs have been car­ Mr. MONDELL. He said, "You will have everybody loafing ried out, many of them without the warrant of congressional on the job in spite of all that you can do; even the mules will sanction. It is claimed that the expenditure has been grossly know that the more they loaf and the more the job costs the extravagant, and we have a very good reason for the opinion more we get. But," he said, "for heaven's sake, keep the that it was when we hear men in the public service, charged organization down to hard work as well ns you can under tbe with responsibility over enormous sums, say, "Yes; we propose circumstances." to get results without any sort of regard to what they cost." I knew by experience-~at nothing so disorganizes a working From one viewpoint, perhaps, that was justified. But to spend force as that sort of a job; and when I heard of the cost-plus money lavishly because it is necessary to accomplish a given business I took the first opportunity, out of recollection of those purpose and to throw money to the winds unnecessarily in the early days, to express my · opinion of that utterly indeferu;ible uccomplishmen t of that purpose are two very different things. The American people are entitle

in the Treasury. Far from it. There are billions of appropri­ their way in, nt any social affair at which the officer is a guest such ations still current for the meeting of which there is no money officer will at once depart from such social affair and if he find's per­ sons in the uniform of enlisted men permitted to be present be will in the Treasury. We are simply clearing the books to a cer­ take the same action. tain extent, so that he who runs may more easily read the prob­ When an officer finds enlisted men present at any social affair with­ able obligations of future bond issues and future tax burdens. out proper authority, be will take such steps as the occasion may warrant to cause them to leave, and will report any violation of regula­ It is well that the committee did this. It is the only thing the tions which may occur. Congress has done up to this good hour that I can recall that By command of Maj. Gen. Buck. in any way affects the policy of this Government touching ex­ . • . W. ~· WOOLWORTH,. penditures, touching the carrying out of programs. It does not M a}ot, Infantry, Umted States Army, .A.ctmu. Executive OJJiccr. go far enough to clip or compel the abandonment of such se­ Official: E. E. LAMBERT, lected or aggregated programs as the department may insist Major, Adjutant (feneral'& Department, Adjutant. on carrying forward, but it does not leave money enough for them all. To that extent Congress is -asserting its authority in 1\.Ir. Chairman, this clipping shows the spirit of caste existing determining that there shall be some limit to the expenilltures. in our Army even to this day. It shows the ha1·sh and overbear­ I do not want to seem to overcriticize naval and military men, ing attitude of the officer class. It shows, as I have often said who are insisting upon still holding vast sums for expenditure. before, that our Army is the most undemocratic institution in They would not be worthy of their profession if they did not America. believe in it and believe in its maintenance and expansion ; but 1\fr. Chairman,. we have heard a good deal of this un-Ameri­ it is our duty to say how far these things shall go. Our view Cfi? system of caste. The fact that this system of social dig.. should be the view of the people as against the military view. crimination is practiced in the Army has been denied. from time Therefore we might well go further, and the Military Affairs to time. It has even been officially denied,· but all who are. Committee of the House might well go further, in laying dow-n familiar with Army life know that this order here at last a program and in cbecking expenditures along lines of ques­ brought to light in print discloses an actual practice lived up to tionable value to the country. Thank God that the time has by our officers of the Army, and which has been lived up to come when we can pass a bill like this; that the time has come for years. · when we can begin to think sanely, when the dove of peace is We have carried on a war for democracy. We have gone to again returning to the earth. May the coming of peace bring EuFope to carry democracy to the people there, and yet we with it a revival in this House of the proper spirit of our Ameri­ a1·e fighting against it here at home. In Europe our -Army can institutions, a revi"ml of the determination on the part of and Navy are being used-to promote democracy. Here at home· Congress to take its place 'again as the body in this Government these same instrumentalities are being used to suppress democ­ charged with the responsibility of outlining programs, estab­ racy. Those w}J.o are responsible for the spirit of caste which lishing policies, and placing the limit upon governmental ac­ characterizes the Army have no comprehension of the prin- tivities. [Applause.] ciples they are affecting to teach. . Mr. :MAGEE. Will the gentleman yield for a question for I want to say that there can be no real political democracy information? where there does not exist a . social democracy. [Applause.] Mr. MONDELL. I yield to the gentleman from New York. There can be no real democracy that we can carry into a foreign Mr. MAGEE. I did not clearly understand the gentleman's land when we deny to our boys who carry that torch in their statement. It has been stated that some $7,000,000,000 is turned bands the right to be regarded as men here at home. The men back into the Treasury. Do I understand t11at that is an amount who fight our battles are good enough for any officer to meet as which has been appropriated? equals. They are entitled to be treated with respect and con- 1\fr. MONDEI,L. Evidently the gentleman was not present t<) sideration. · hear the early part of my remarks. The bill repeals approxi­ Look at this order and analyze it. An officer is supposed to mately $7,000,000,000 of app1·opriations and repeals approxi.. be a gentleman; this order put into effect would make it im­ ·. mately $8,000,000,000 of authorizations of expenditure. possible for an officer to be a gentleman. If I were to invite 1\Ir. 1\IAGEE. Has any part of this $7,000,000,000, which the two brothers to eat at my table, one being an officer and the gentleman says was appropriated, been actually raised? other an enlisted man, that one who was an officer when he Mr. MONDELL. I just said, if the gentleman was listening, saw his brother at the table would be compelled to leave or if that the loose statement frequently made that we were turning he felt that his brother was not rightfully there, then he ~ould money back into the Treasury was, of course, not true. Not be compelled to force his enlisted brother to leave the premises. only has this $7,000,000,000 not been raised, but the money for Under this order even a discharged soldier wearing his uniform appropriations of many other billions of dollars has not been can never be good enough for an officer to associate with.­ provided. for in the way of revenue and must be provided for There is not a boy who has been in the service who has not through the bond issues that are coming and the payment of the felt the effects of this caste spirit and system. There is not tremendously heavy taxes provided for in the revenue bill. As one who does not resent it. There is not an enlisted man who a matter of fact, we are this day sailing without any very great does not dread the social gulf that exists between officer and en­ balance in the Treasm·y; but in the offing is a great bond sale listed man more than the dangers that he endm·es. They and the enormous sums that will be raised by the revenue bill. dread it more than they do the hardships of the service. · Notwithstanding all of the faults and failings of those who are Most high Army officers are in favor of a permanent system charged with responsibility, all of the tremendous expenditures of conscription. I want to say to them here that by their over­ that have been made, and all the Yast sums that will have to be bearing conduct toward the enlisted men they are doing more to raised and paid, it is after all well with the Republic, for by the make Army life unpopular than any " pacifist " could by preach­ valor of the boys who went over eas the tide of the great Hun­ ing against militarism. I warn them that they can not get away; nish wave was turned back and victory came. May the peace with it. No system of compulsory service in time of peace will conference now gathered at Versailles establish that peace in ever be endured by the American people so long as Army officers perpetuity -by establishing it in righteousness and justice. adhere to such outworn, overbearing, and undemocratic meth­ [Applause.] ods as disclosed by thiS order. What are we going to do about The CHAIRMAl.""f. The Clerk will read. it? What are the American people going to do? Well, so long as The Clerk read as follows: the Army was a matter of professional soldiers, of men who were DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. not compelled to go into it, the people took no great interest in CO~TINGENT A.KD MISCELLANEOUS EXPE~SES. the matter. But since the Army is composed of men who are District Building: For fuel, light, power, repairs, laundry mechanics serving whether they want to or not, the people of this country, and labor, not to exceed $2,500, and miscellaneous supplies: $12,000. ' are going to see that they ru·e treated. decently. We wi~l have 1\fr. HUDDLESTON. Mr. Chairman, I hold in my hand a a democratic Army or we will have none at all. Let the General clipping from the \Vaco News-Tribune, of Waco, Tex., dated Staff ponder that. They are pushing for a big Army. They con­ January 8, 1918. This clipping purports to give copy of an sider themselves patriotic in that. Yet by tolerating-yes, fos· order issued by Gen. Buck, who is in command at Camp Mac- tering-the caste system they are making it impossible to re- Arthur. This clipping is as follows: . cruit an Army. · OFFICERS ADVISED SOCIALLY-cAN' T MINGLE WTTH ENLISTED MEN-BY Talk about violating the espionage act. Hundreds of honest COMMAND Oil' GEN. BUCK ORDER POSTED REGARDING ENTERTAINM:IilNTS. men have been sent to jail for talking against conscription. Yet The following order bas been posted at Camp MacArthur: Headquarters, Camp Mac.Artbur, Waco, Tex., January 6, 1919, Gen­ by keeping up a system of social oppr~sion of enlisted men the eral Orders, No. 1. officer class have done more to make them dis atisfied than 1. The attention of officers of this command is called to the impro­ thousands of unbridled agitators could have done with their talk. priety of attending social affairs at which enlisted men, or persons in the uniform of enlistt>d mt>n. are present. I do not blame Gen. Buck more than others. He bas merely put Hexeaftei' any officer of this command who finds enlisted men pres­ into black and whit~ a rule of the Army recognized by every ent with pro>per authority, i. e., duly invited or permitted to pay· officer. It is the men who control the Army, mold its spirit, and

. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 2249 who make and change its customs and practices who are respon­ Mr. SlSSON. It would get the ashes moYed in normai. con­ sible. And the Navy is worse than the Army. [Applause.] ditions. The Clerk read as follows: Mr. MANN. These are normal. The contract had been en- tered into. For the disposal of city refuse, including the same objects and under the same limitations specified for this purpose in the District of Colum­ Mr. SISSON. If the gentleman will look into every depart­ bia appropriation act for the fiscal year 1919, ·$220,000 : Provided, ment of the Government he will find that every department is That the Commissioners of the District of Columbia are authorized to paying nearly twice as much and sometimes more than twice investigate conditions affecting the existing contract for the collection and disposal of ashes 1n the District of Columbia during the fiscal year as much for labor as they were before. 1919, with a view to determining whether any adjustment should be Mr. MANN. Twice as much every day as it was the day be­ made in the compel!sation paid thereunder, and to adjust the same, fore, does the gentleman say? provided the facts disclosed the neces_sity for sue!! adju~tme.nt: ~ro­ vided further, That the said commissiOners may, m their discretion, 1\lr. SISSON. No; I did not say that, but p1·ior to the war. with the consent of the contractor and his bondsmen, cancel such con­ Mr. 1\iANN~ This has no relation to conditi~ns prior to the tract, and in that event. or in the event of failure of the contractor, to take such steps as may be necessary to carry on the work covered war. thereby, and for that purpose to purchase or lease the necessary plants, 1\Ir. SISSON. It has, absolutely. buildings, and land, to pm·chase or hire horses and horse-dra.wn ve­ Mr. M~"'N. Tlle gentleman stated that the ccntract was en­ hicles, passenger-carrying and other motor-propelled vehicles, eq_Uipment..z and machinery and to employ expert and other personal serVIces, ana tered into for this fiscal year. labor, and to 'pay traveling, maintenance.!. incidental, ::tnd contingent Mr. SISSON. It was entered into some time before the expenses : Provided, That not more than .,70,000 of th1s sum shall be actual date for moving ashes. expended for the collection and· disposal of ashes. Mr. 1\lANN. The fact is that the District Commissioners are Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the disposed to give conn·acts to friends. paragraph in order that the chairman may make some explana- Mr. SISSON. I do not know that that is true. tion of it. Mr. MANN. And if the contracts do not pay the contractors, Mr. SHERLEY. The gentleman from Mississippi hm:, had they want to let the contractor out and have the Government pay charge of this matter, which is a District of Columbia matter, the difference. and he can better advise the gentleman than I myself. Mr. SISSON. 1\Iy information, on the contrary, is that the Mr. SISSON. 1\Ir. Chairman, this item involves primarily District Commissioners desire to take a forfeiture on this man's the ash contract. They have under this item several matters to bond, but they want to be in a position to move the ashes when dispose of. The ash cont~·act was entered into, as I recollect it, they do take it. for about $79,000. After the war broke out wages were in­ Mr. MANN. Oh, they presented this item, and this item c.ame creased to such an ex ent that the company that got the con­ from the District Commissioners. tract was unable to carry ou,t the contract to move the ashes. Mr. SISSON. I know it did. Now the District Commissioners have the option, of course, to 1\fr. MANN. It do.es _not provide for a forfeiture of the bond. decl~re the contract void, and under the contract they could, if Mr. SISSON. They do not have to do that. the money was sufficient, perhaps go along and remove the 1\Ir. 1.\IANN. H provides that the District Commissioners shall ashes, but they would have to take over the plant. . The pur­ settle the contract; and why do they ask that? Because they pose of this provision is to enable the District Commissioners to already have agreed to do it, if they get the authority. make- the best arrangement they can in reference to the re­ Mr. SISSON. I do not know whether that is true. LJaval of the ashes, because they might take a forfeiture of the Mr. 1\IANN. Oh, it is a matter of public information. bond-and I have no objection to their taking that course-but 1\Ir. SISSON. The purpose of this is to have the nshes rc· that would not move the ashes. The principal expense of mov­ moved. ing the ashes will be in this present month and the two months The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman from Illinois insist on succeeding. What ought to have- been done prior to this is the point of order. what we have done in reference to garbage, to allow the Dis­ 1\fr. :M.Alii""N. I shall insist upon the point of order as to the trict of Columbia to take over the entire matter, because the proviso. wagons and equipment that have been used for one purpose can The CHAIRMAN. The point of order is sustained. be used interchangeably for the other. The purpose of the pro­ Mr. 1\IANN. I have reference to the first and second provisos, vision is to enable the District Commissioners, if they decide to and on them I make the point of order. do so, to take over so much of the plant, the wagons, and horses The CHAIRMAN. The point of order is sustained, and the as will be necessary to move the ashes. Clerk will read. Mr. MANN. Why does the gentleman say that the wagons The Clerk read as follows : for moving the ashes can be used to move refuse and garbage? For additional for two tractors, motor driven, $4,000. Mr. SISSON. Because they can be. Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the Mr. MANN. It might be in a , country town, but not in the last word. I rise for information. I have never heard of this city. If the wagons are moving ashes, they can not move term "tractors" being used in connection with the apparatus of p~~ . · 1\Ir. SISSON. The gentleman ought to understand that in a fire department. Will the gentleman explain what a tractor is? summer there are very few ashes to move; there is a great deal Mr. SISSON. A tractor takes the place of the horses, and more garbage moved in the summer than in the winter. carries the fire equipment, whatever it may be, to the fire, in- Mr. MANN. The purpose of this is to let the District Com­ stead of haying it drawn by horses. · missioners let the contract, but the gentleman has given us no Mr. STAFFORD. But you provide in the next paragraph for information on that subject. When was this contract entered three engines, motor driven, and also in the following paragraph for chemical and hose cart, motor driven. into? Mr. SISSON. The contract was entered into something like Mr. SISSON. They are substituting these motor-driven tractors for horses wherever they can. 14 or 15 months ago. Mr. MANN. These are annual contracts, are they not? Mr. STAFFORD. I suppose, then, it is like the forward part 1\Ir. SISSON. Yes; I think this is. Some are for three of the truck, where it is intended to put the trailer behind, and years, but I think this is an annual contract. The facts are have it rest on the part carrying the motor. that this labor was worth $1.25 a day or $1.50. Mr. SISSON. If you have a hook and ladder, for example, l\Ir. :MANN. Labor was worth as much 15 months ago as it instead of having it drawn by horses you would have it drawn is now and perhaps more. by a tractor. Mr. SISSON. The labor that this man employed has gone Mr. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Chairman, I w~thdraw the pro forma up to where it is impossible for the man to complete his con­ amendment. tract. Horses have gone up, and 've even went into the price The Clerk read as follows: of feed to the extent of getting the quotations about the date Employees' compensation fund: For compensation provided bY-_ "An act to provide compensation for employees of the United States sutfering tha.t this contract was entered into. injuries in the performance of their duties, and for other purposes,". Mr. MANN. I know there bas been no special increase in approved September 7, 1916, including medical, surgical, and hospital the price of labor during the last year, and certainly no increase services, and supplies provided by section 9, and the transportation and in the price of horses, and no special increase in the price of burial expenses provided by sect1ons 9 and 11, $700,000, to be available feed. 'Vhat this amounts to is that if the contract goes against until expended. the contractor we relieve him, but if it is ·going in hls favor he Mr. LONGWORTH. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following keeps the contract. That is all it amounts to. Heads I win amendment, which I send to the desk and ask to have read. and taiis you Jose by the contractor. The Clerk read as follows: Mr. SISSON. We are not confront~d with a theory here; it Page 5, line 21, after the word "expended," insert ag a new paragraph the following : is a condition. What we want is to get the ashes moved. "For salaries and expenses of the United States Tariff Commission, Mr. MANN. The gentleman makes the primary mistake of including the same objects specified unrler this hc>acl in the sunury civil providing a contrnct that will not get the ashes moved. appropriation act for the fiscal year 1919. $:)0,000." . 2250 CONGRESSIONAL RECOR.D-HOUSE. JANUARY 28,

1\fr. LO~ TGWORTH. Mr. Chairman, I confess that I offer There was appropriated for the service this year $200,000. this amendment, as I would any amendment to this bill, with That is $100,000 less than was autlwrized, and not directed by some hesitation, because the bill has been most thoroughly con­ the legislation creating the commission. Of cour e, it awaits ap­ sidered, this item-or at least this general proposition-among propriation, whether it should be $188,000, $200,000, or $300,000. others. For one, I feel that the Committee on Appropriations It seems to me, as one Member of the House, I am not in favor. is deserving of great credit for this bill. I of course do not as­ of the amendment. The amount, I say again, that was appro­ sume to know all the details of the bill, but, on the face of it, priated was $200,000, and in the first six months the commis­ it saves to this Government something like $15,000,000,000. sion expended $100,000. It could not have expended more It is difficult for the average human mind, gentlemen, to ap­ under the law touching appropriations. That leaves for the last preciate the significance and vastness of this sum, but if I do :Six months the same amount that was expended for the first not forget entirely the figures that I am about to mention, this six montlls of the fiscal year, namely, $100,0QO. Now, the amend­ bill authorizes a saving of an amount equal to more than half ment is to appropriate $50,000 for this six months, which would tl1e total amounf that it cost this Government to live from the make-- first inauguration of George Washington until the second· inau­ Mr. LONGWORTH. Will the gentleman yield? guration of President Wilson. The committee deserves great 1\Ir. CANNON. I will credit for having brought in a bill which will bring about this 1\fr. LONGWORTH. It "Would make $150,000 for the six: enormons saving of the public funds. The gentleman from Ken­ months. tucky will go down undoubtedly in history as the master money 1\fr. CANNON. Which would be running at the maximum that saver of the American Congress. [Applause.] For one, I in­ is authorized by the law. finitely regret that he is not to be with us in fue next Congress, I am not going to run amuck and criticize the organization of and .I know that I am right in saying that it is the unanimous this Tariff Commission. Gentlemen understand about it. It judgment of l\fembers on both sides of the aisle that his shoes consists, I believe, of five who are not of the same political party. will be mighty difficult to fill. [Applause.] Now, the gentle­ Well, we could not have an issue of fact to say whether it was man from Kentucky explained this morning the request made by fairly appointed or not from that standpoint. If we would sub­ the Tariff Commission. Let me call attention to fue fact that mit it to a jury and I shoul

growth, if you plea ·e. "\Ve hall little information in t11e past to do during the war, and I reckon tl.le re t of the Tariff Com­ tis to the methods and the cost of production of dyes in this mission practically acquiesce in that "View, IJecause they have country. Would not that one indu ·try be enough to justify at clone nothing. . a time like this, w·hen we must realize that no one can tell how But I will say tllis: The commission is matle up entirely of soon Germany will be able to produce dyes again, this increa e what we call "free traders" on our side of t.he House. Con­ in appropriation? 'Vould it not be of value to ha\e all possible trnry to the spirit of the law, there is no protectioni t on the information? A.ncl the Tariff Commission has been working commission. This distinguished commis ion of free traders .very hard upon that question. Does not that justify the con­ haYe expressed the opinion that a taliff for protection in some tinuance of the Tariff Commission? cases is highly advisable and necessary. Now, to that extent Mr. SISSON. The gentleman understands this docs not in­ I welcome their education, although acquired at considerable terfere at all with the Tariff Commission. It is simply a ·pecial expense to the National Treasury. fund that they want in addition to the amount Congress has 1\lr. LONGWORTII. l\Ir. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? heretofore appropriated. It does not interfere with their pres­ 1\lr. MANN. In just a second. On this side of the House ent activities. we do not need the education. On that side of the House it is 1\Ir. LONG,VORTH. It interferes with their present nctiYi­ useless to attempt to educate them on the subject. [Laughter.] "ties to the extent they arc now receiving only two-thirds of the i\Ir. LONGWORTH. So far as the Tariff Commission itself amount Congress authorized them to receive. i concerned, does not the gentleman believe that the result of 1\lr. SISSON. That was the very limit of co t. the in\estigations will lead to the irresistible conclusion that 1\Ir. LONGWORTH. 'l'his necessarily cripples their field of some protection is necessary? usefulness. l\Ir. MANN. I do not know what conclusion it will lead them 1\Ir. SISSON. As to the dye industry, that would be in just to. I do not need it. If they could ascertain facts as to the the condition other industries are in o far as labor and the cost cost of production of article , either here or abroad, that would of producing dyes in Germany and the co t here are concerned. be of value. But we all know perfectly well that they can not You can not establi h any rule, in my judgment, upon which to obtain facts relating to the production of any article, including base a tariff, either from a reTenuc or protection point of view, dyestuffs, either here or abroad, which would be useful 11Ude1· that conditions might not change overnight. The changes will normal conditions. Now, I am in fa\or of putting a protective be very rapid, and for that reason the committee ditl not allow it. tariff upon dyestuffs to protect the American industry that i'J 1\lr. HULL of Tennessee. Mr. Chairman, I do not ri e for built up on dyestuffs. I do not undertake to say what tlle rate the purpose of entering into :my detailed discussion of this mat­ should be, and I undertake to say that the Tariff Commission ter, bl)t in common ·with some of the other members of the com­ will not know what the rate should be before it is fixed. · mittee I was disappointed when I learned that this item was I think it is a good thing for t11e Tariff Commission and th<1 not embraced in the pending bill. other commissions under the GoTeTnment to feel that they will I am impressed with ·what the gentleman from 1\lissi. sippi have to be economical for a while. We will have the \ery, '[1\lr. SrssoN] says, so far as it goes; but it is \Cry important mischief to pay to bring down any department of the Govern­ for this country to follow the changing economic conditions, ment to any reasonable idea of ec:;onomy, and we can not afford especially during the reconstruction period, and to gather from to go ahead and appropriate money as we haTe done in Tecent them such lessons as they offer, just. as other commercial coun­ years and months for what they call the normal expenses of the tries are doing at this time, and I th:ink really it is a mistake Government, because they have increased. I lmow of no branch not to allow this commission to proceed a.t this time with the of the Government to-day outside of the War and Navy DeJ>art­ normal development of the work which it has in hand and ments whicll is not asking for an increase of m~mey . Although which during the next G, 12, and 18 months will be of extreme they have already had i.nct'eases lJeyond the normal conditions, .value to every Member of Congress and to e\ery business man they now want more. Somebody has got to pay the bills if we in the counb·y who is earnestly shiving to understand economic appropriate the money. conditions as they will be more or less tmnsforme(l following Mr. SHERLEY. 1\Ir. Chairman, I shall not detain the com­ the war. I say, therefore, I regret that the committee did not mittee more thau a minute or two on this matter, but I think see fit in its wisdom to make this allowance. it is only fait· to take issue with the tatement of fact that the 1\lr. SISSON. ri the gentleman will permit nn interruption, gentleman from Illinois [1\Ir. 1\IANN] asserts, that the entire I think he will under tand that this money will onl:r be :l.Yail­ personnel of this Tariff Commis ion is made up of men such able until the 1st of July anyway, and within that length of .as are· normally designated as " free trada·s," and I am quite time the amount of information they could get would be 1·a·y sure that the actual fact is .far from that. Certainly 1\Ir. slight, and the current appropriation bill will take care of the Culbertson, a member of that commission, would Yery indig­ investigations that will be made after .July by this eommission. nantly deny that the cll.araderiza.tion COlTectly represented hi~ l\ft·. HULL of Tennessee. I will say to the gentleman that political viewpoint. he has doubtless y do not agree. Some of it will be agreeable to my views, and Republican committee assigument is charged \vith thnt particu­ ·some of it will be more agt·eeable to those of some of my col­ lar work, should admit the desirability of it. leagues on the other side; but in view of what I consider to be Having said so much, I simply ue ire to say that the com­ the importance and the accuracy of the economic facts which mittee did consider, in yiew of the questions that are larger than they are deYelopi.ng, which will be of much \alue to every 1\Iem­ simply the question of the tariff comrni sion, that at this time ber of the House, no lT:atter what his preclilections may be with it was not desirable to appropriate additional money; and with respect to custom or other phases of economic conditions. I am the latter part of the speeclt of the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. ~f 011inion that thi small amount of money could not be ex­ 1\lAN~] I .am in entire accord.. It is going to require the constant pelHled better than jn the dh·ection asked for by the commission. vigilance of Congress to .bold tiJe departments of the Go>ern­ 'i'l1e CHAIRMAN. The question is on agt·eeing to the amend­ ment down to anything like norlllill acti"\ity, and there will, to m<.'nt offered by tlle gentleman from Ohio [l\Ir. LoNGWORTH]. "my mind, be a -..ery heroic f'tt·ugglc in the next Congres to 1\IL·. MANN. 1\It·. Cbairman, it ha always been a peculiar reduce to order and to ordinrrry size the eral of them are doing other work--one of them in bill the estimates that were submitted ; and on behalf of the com­ the P~st Office Department, gi.ying no a.ttention whatever to the mittee I nope its action may be approYetl by voting down tho ;work of the Tariff Commi ion, and one of them somewhere runendment Qf the gentleman from .Ohio. else, giving no nttention to the Tariff Commission. I .am prob­ The CHAIRMAN. The que tion is on the amendment offered ably expressing the opinion of tho"e two gentlemen at least by the gentleman from Ohio. ;when I sn3r that there was no work for the Tariff Commission The amendment "·as rejected. 2252 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOlJ SE. JANUARY 28,

The Clerk read as fo1lows: 1\Ir. DYER. Tl1c point of order, I am sure, Mr. Chairman, does PUBLIC BCILDI:'IGS. net lie. N2w Orleans, La. customhouse : For additional for the completion ot l\Ir. SHERLEY. I am seriou in saying to the gentleman that the remodeling, repair,. or improvement of the old customhouse and post office, $13,700. it does lie. I think I can point out three or four statements that make it not germane. It is not germane, although camou­ l\fr. DUPRE. l\fr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last flaged by the language" Provided, That no part of any appropria· word for the purpose of asking the chair·rrian of the committee tion herein shall be used," and so forth. a question with regard to the remodeling of the customhouse at Mr. DYER. It is a pure limitation. We have had the ques• New Orleans, where an appropriation of $13,700 is recommended. tion up; the identical language wns submitted on the legislative, I have before me the estimate of ~ppropriations for construc­ executive, and judicial appropriation bill, and the point of order tion in connection with this deficiency bill, where the depart­ was overruled by the then Chairman, the gentleman from 1\Iis­ ment asked that the sum of $18,000, which was realized from souri [Mr. ALEXANDER]. It was the opinion of those who spoke the sale of the old copper roof of the customhouse, be returned upon it, including quite a number of :Members of the Honse and for that purpose. I find that the committee in its wisdom and_ some of the best parliamentarians in the House, that it was a sen e of economy has seen fit to reduce that amount by some limitation on the fund of money provided for in the bill. $5,000. I shall be Yery glad if the gentleman will tender some The CHAIRl\1AN. Does the gentleman from Kentucky insist explanation. on the point of order? l\fr. SHERLEY. If the gentleman please, the committee did l\Ir. SHERLEY. I do, and I want to be heard on it. l\fr. not consider that because a given amount had been realized from Chairman, I am not familiar with what the gentleman statee bill, and while I do not priated. If the gentleman will turn to page 682 of the hearings, care to be put in the position of appealing from the court, I . he will find that there was an estimate made there as to the am still of the opinion that, though as distinguished a gentleman amount of money that \TOuld be required to do the work that as the gentleman from l\Iissouri [l\lr. ALEXANDEr.] held this in the Supervising Architect indicated they desired to do now order, he was wrong. I think it can be clearly demonstrated. and which totaled $17,700. There was one item for the lining There has grown up in the House a practice, a very loose and or facing of walls and spandrels under stair·s at front entrance vicious practice-and I say it without meaning to reflect upon with marble. That seemed to the committee to be an expendF the merits of the amendment--of assuming that by simply say­ ture that was not fully warranted under the present circum­ ing, "Provided, That no part of the urn shall be e:::q)enuecl," stances, -and therefore the comrilittee recommended a reduction that-you can do anything afterw_ards affirmatively that you , ee of the amount from $17,700 to $13,700. fit and not thereby violate the rule in regard to legislation upon l\.fr. DUPRE. l\1y inquiry was in view of the fact that thi~ an appropriation bill. sum had been realized from the sale of the copper roof. It was The language of this amenllment reads: not directed to the P.Oint that that amount should be returned Pt·ovicled, That no part of uny appropriation herein sllall be used to the source from whence it emanated. I wanted to know why unless all former Government employees who have been drafted or the committee in its wisdom had seen fit to cut clown the esti­ enlisted in the military service of the nit€<1 States in the war with Germany shall be reinstated on application to their former · po. ition · mate of the Supervising Architect. The committee is opposed appropriated for herein if they llave received an honorable discharge to marble facings, I understand. and are qualified to perform the duties of the position. 1\fr. SHERLEY. I would not say they are opposed to them That requires affirmath-e action on the part of the bureau to or in favor of them, but they are opposed to this particular item which it applie , and undertakes to make the expenditures of in this particular instance, becau e it did not seem to the com­ money conditioned upon the doing of an affirmative thing, mittee that at this time that expenditure of $4,000 for the facing whereas the rules of the House provide that the limitation shall of walls and spandrels of the stainvay with marble was a neces­ simply restrict the money upon a negation and must not involve sary expenditure. an affirmative proposition neces ary to be carried out. It is con­ -Mr. DUPRE. In connection with the gentleman's desire to ceivable that the purpose ·which the .gentleiL-an desires to accom­ reduce expenditures, then, he has cut down this amount by plish might be so worded as to come within the limitation, but the $4,000 in order to pre>ent this amount being spent for that language as submitted requires affirmatively .that the department purpose? shall reinstate the applicants to their foriLer positions if honor­ Mr. SHERLEY. Yes. ably discharged and members of the military service. · I insist l\fr. DUPRE. I want to commend the gentleman and the com­ that it is clearly legislation and not a limitation. The chairman mittee for their economy. I hope they will practice it on all will find in connection with the rule in the House l\Ianual, page other measures. I notice, of course, that they have done so in 825, this statement : connection with the Tariff Commission. . . Such limitation must not give affirmative direction and must not Mr. SHERLEY. I am human and make mistakes~ but on the impose new duties- floor I simply voice the sentiment of the committee, and in this And so forth. matter that is their judgment. That was the ruling made by Chairman CRISP, one of the best l\Ir. DUPRE. The gentleman from Kentucky is humorous. parliamentarians in this House, l\larch 11, 1916. The CHAIRMAN. 'Vithout objection, the pro forma amend: The CHAIRMAN. The Chair understands from the parlia­ ment will be considered as withdrawn, and the Clerk will read. mentary clerk that this identical question was up the other day_ The Clerk read as follows: and Ulat this identical language was used. Mr. SHERLEY. That may be true, but I do not happen to WAR DEP.tRTMEXT. agree with the decision of the Chairman on that date. TEMPORARY E~IPLOYEES. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair would like to see the ruling of For the temporary employment of such additional force of clerks and Chairman ALExANDER, and if the gentleman will indulge the other employe s as in the judgment of the Secretary of War may be Chair and pass this over temporarily-- proper and necessary to the prompt, efficient,_ and accurate dispatch of 1\ir. SHERLEY. I am quite willing to do that. official business in the War Department and 1ts bureaus, to ~e al1.otted by the Secretary of War to such bureaus and offices ~s the e:x1genc1es of The CHAIR~1AN . 'Vithout objection, the paragraph will be the existing situation may ~emand, $4,000,000: Pt·oVtded, That ~he Sec­ passed over temporarily. retary ·of War shall submit to Congress on the first day of 1ts next regular session a statement showing by bureaus or offices the number There was no objection. and designation of the persons employed hereunder and the annual rate The Clerk read as follows: of compen-ation paid to e2ch: Provided turthe1·,. That no person shall XATIOXAL CE:llETEiliES. be employed hereunder at a rate of compensation m excess of $5,000 per annum not more than five persons shall be employed hereunder at a For the disposition of r emains of officers. soluiers, civilian employees, rate of' compen ation in excess of $2,400 per annum each, and !lot more etc., including the same objects specified under this head in the sundry than 3ti persons shall be employed at a rate of compensation m excess civil appropriation act for the fiscal year 1919, fiscal years 1918 and of $1,800 per annum eac!J.. 1919, $2,473,782.68. 1\Ir. DYER I\lr. Chairman, I offer the following amendment. l\fr. SHERLEY. Mr. Chairman, I ofl'er the following amend· The Clerk read as follows: ment, which I send to the of the T. A. Gillespie Co., at Morgan; N. J., .which have been many shall be reinstatee tlJe point order. of order. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-_HOUSE. 2253

~fl·. SHEll'I .. EY. 1\Ir. . Cl\a:irm-::tn, the committee will recall which there need be no lli pute. The question of the value- of that ·ome montbs age· tilNe- occul'Iom. day to, day, with claims extent of the claims for <.lamagc to prope-rty· that bad resulted running f.L-om $."): to o;·w or $100,. and sa forth.. It seeffiS' to- me from thi-s expllos-ian. ~l.e ()rdmmcc Department tUtT create a. :that- tile Government havin~ Us own agency, having crea:tecl tt com.missi-on Umt has functione€1, an.d th-ey made- a .num.ber · of , boord. fmr tlle rue-termination o:Jl t.l.lQse clai..ms, can afford to appro­ reports to- the. Coogrcss. Th.ey have ll.ctu.ally· examinctl and · pria.te trle mon~y without ho:fding tlle claims up. to a time when clcnnetl up claims that aggregate something lik.e- $!)00,000, b-u:t probably ft wiQ. mean nothing to the reci-pients thereof. they wer no.t in sha.ne to-d.ay to present to the· CongreSJ :I. Mr. STAFFORD. I quite agree with tlle gentleman that these formal statement enumerating the amounts, so as to make :1 el-afm. shouTtT be dispo ·cd of, but I wa quite surprised on an clear identification. It is e-xpected that before this bill shall inspection of this document, as tllere reported. tllat in so many llaYe become a law they will be in a position to submit the atldi- in. tanees they a:llo"\.vey reference in the proposed amendment cers and one ctvilia:n, they say ou pngc 2 o-f the report they do to cnume.ratecl claims just recorded,. tlle moneys whl-ch will I>e not in any instance allow any claim whfefi "\Tns CO\ercd by e:q>cnd'ed', aml tho rnoneys- will an go, ro the ciaim:mf.s. fue1~ insurance. · named. who will not in any in. tanee be the represen:CaUv-es. of 1 rend from the report:- cl..'Ums: abo:ut which theTe could be- ail¥ qrre tionr anti tile: ques- This is in all cases the amount of loss less a.ny in urance received tfon of the reimbursement of the Red Cross, questions that the-reon. might. in!voltru matters of r mote cttuse, am not fn.cltuletl herein. A. r state1l a n1oment ago, I tli.<1not. wisil to have this pln·n ·c-­ Uncle-1." the circumstance. the comnnttee fclt warrautctl in pro· ology in ::my wise a. recognition of ru1y obligation on tlle pa.L"t posing this· runen.dmcnt to tne House. of the Govcmment to pay the.·e large clairns whi<:ll rnn up into 1\.lr~ STAFFORD. Mr. 'h..'lirman, unlle-i' the reseryation. of bund.r us of tllou ·ancl· of dollars. For instance. tll.c Pennsyl'­ th point of. ordel', I de, n· to ny that oniy to-day was tfie vania. R ..'l..ilroatl •o. ha ::t cL.'l.im for :64-!,.00G-llere, though we only tfocnment~ No. 1735, refe-rrcti to in tlie amead.ruent available :~ppro-p.ria.fe tp.e total .. mount ns · canicd' for Ute:;e smaU to 3Iembers· of tfic llou~. When tllis proposition wa ·p-re enfed drums-- as an addendum to the bill ns reported by tlle- subco-nmtittee Tlle-CllAII:t:ll N.. The time of the gentleman has expired. I tio not believe m1y member of me general committee hfUl any l\Ir. STAFFORD. I a.sk tor three minuf more. conception tlrat" tlt.c- totnl tliDOUTht .of' ciaims woul<.1 ruu. into . The CHA.Illl\1'AN. Is n1ere objection to the request of tho, the millions of dollm·s. ()ertainly l illd not. The report shows · gentleman?. [After a pause..] '.fhe- Cha-jr Jtenr none.. that tlte. grand total, ns statccl on page 5, covered by this L"enort. 1\Ir. STAFFOitD. I was wondering wllctlier the phraseology is . 3,15l,I:UO. It is true tl'li\Jt. beginning. on. page ~ :uulmmning. woui·tl r cognize the obligatien to pay any of these lrrrge claims. bac·k to page 67, tllere aTe a la1·ge number of smaU clafms,. l 1\U.·. SHETILEY. It was not so infunucd. lt was for the very suppose aggregating sen~rat thou and dollars for ua.mages: to purpose of U\Oiding the ru1yin,. of any claim that might be or window glass and paint and the- like, where I notice t.llat the clonbtful yalidity that the committee did not carry the provision coutmission,. consisting of n. colonel of. the Onln:mce Depart- in the bill as reportec1 out. B-nt, as tl'le gentlema.n. w·ill reenlT, ment and a maj.or of tl'l.e Onlnancc Dep!lrtmenf and a cirtlia.n. the clill.iJ.·ma.n was authorized to ofrer an :uncndtnent to deal reported! \u1:uaJ.:i.'y in fnli fot~ the claim as vre ented. In the with sucr1 claims as might fie arranged, classifieu, and scl1eduled~ repot·t they said hat the nmormt is about 10 per cent TesB and I took the trouble of suggesting to the Ordnance Dep-art­ th:m the: totnl faee -value- of the claims. I am &lll'prised that mcnt tha.f. the committee wuntecl to have enu-m-erated in en.-ch o.n a mere inspection peTlmp.s 00 per eent or eYen t>9 per eent . case the amount of :the daim, the character of the- claim, tlle of an these claims have been a.HoweU'.. I can n(}t think that amount that hall been asked, auu· tile arnouut that had been this boru·d of three went into the adjudication of the merits of awarded, so that we might know· i:n detail that we were not the claim.· ~ery clo.·eiy. paying any claims tllat we ought not t(} pay. I tllink the ~entle- l\lr. SHERLEY. :\lr. 'ha.irmarr, I think the gentll'man. is man will find from an examination of the: ·e claims, which total c:lrn.wing u conclu ion that i · not entirely warranted. Tilere al'e th-e amount ram propo in"' tOo earry in thi. bill, thut there arc a ~rent mn.ny in tn.nccs in whicll tllese peonle did not present a none in here of doubtful yalue. I am pcrfccfly willing, if the fonnnl clnim in U:orlm and cents,.. but simply ma out o:fi 10· of ·the claims· pre- [After a pause.] The- Clmir bea.r.s none, and. the Cle-rk will re­ sented were nnowcd nt the ':ery amount as presented. For port u1e amemlment ns modified. The reseL'\nt.ion of the point in. tancc, 1. just rcau nt random. Take the "\"'ery :fix: ·t eiaim, of order is wHhc:l'rrrwn. tll::t.t of Geo-17~e Horley. The claim is for $5 ..3"5 and the amount The Clerk read as follows: is next claim, ljrr8.73; a11owe: : Page !), a.fter line !). • insert : · $1 .'iu. Ta l.:e U1e next, .,71.2:1 ; amount allowed',. 7-:1.21.. Take •· OYdnance De-partme-nt: For the payment o.t the. c.la.i.ms for damage tlw n<>:s:t, $ii14.0G;. amount rulowro, $014.06. And right on d.own to ::w.d loss of private property occasioned> lJy rile explosions and fil'e at the plant of '1'. A. Gillespie Co., a:t Morgan, N ..T .• whic-h have- b-~01 tllf' allowance of these cfaim i.' the am.ount as presented. a"'reed upon bv the War Department" and tile claimants.. an

The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the amend­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Tennessee asks unani­ ment. mous consent that when the House adjourns to-day it adjourn to The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. meet at 11 o'clock a. m. to-morrow. Is there objection? Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Chairman, I desire to offer a further 1 Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, amendment to follow the amendments that have just been that would depend upon whether the business in order to-mor­ agreed to. row would be dispensed with or not. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Kentucky offers an .Mr. SHER.LEY. To-morrow being Calendar Wednesday, I amendment, which the Clerk will report. Will couple With that a request that the business in order on the The Clerk read as follows: calendar to-morrow be dispensed with. Amendment otl'erecl by Mr. SHERLEY: Page 9 after line 9, insert: . The SPEAKER. And the gentleman from Kentucky couples ., The Secretary of War is directed to ~onsider, ascertain, and recom­ with that the request that the business in order to-morrow Cal­ mend to Congress the amounts which in his judgment are doe on claims of persons, . not employees of the United States, for compensation for endar Wednesday, be dispensed with. Is there objection? ' di ·ability or death resulting from personal injury sustained from the There was no objection. · ncent e:~:plosions and. fire at the plant of the T. A. Gillespie Co., at Morgan, N. J. FOURTEENTH AND SUBSEQUENT DECENl\TI.A.L CENSUSES. "Provided, That claims shall not be recommended hereunder for '1\fr. HOUSTON, by direction of the Committee on the Census persons or in amounts which would not be allowable under the United States employees' compensation act it the individual were an employee submitted for printing under the rule the conference report and of the United States." • • · accompanying statement on the bill (H. n.. 11984) to provide for the Fourteenth an

. Amendment numbered 23: That the House recede from its dis- STATEMEN'l'. agreement to the amendment of ·the Senate numbered 23, and On amendment"No. 1: This amendment strikes out all of sec- agree to the same with an amendment as follows: In lieu tion 1 as passed by the House and proposes to inset't a provision of the matter proposed by the Senate insert the following: providing for a very much enlarged census covering the addi­ " applicants claim to have." ; also, on page 6, line 16, of the tional subjects of edu·cation, health, and insurance, to be taken engro ss~d bill, strike out the word" or" where it oc·curs the first every five years, which would result in more than doubling the time and insert the word "of"; and the Senate agree to · the cost of the census. Your conferees restored the Bouse pro­ same. v:ision and added thereto after the wor

On amendment No. 17: This amendment is simply a change of MI·. KIESS of Pennsylvania. It is with reference to the sani• phraseology. The House recedes. ta1·y condition of the ports of embarkation in France. On amendment No. 18: This amendment corrects a grammat­ , The SPEAKER. Is there objection? ical error. 'Ihe House recedes. There was _no objection. , On amendment No. 19: This amendment is simply the inser­ Following ~s tlle letter referred to : tion of a comma. The House recedes. Hon. NEWTON D. BAKmr, JA~UA.RY 22, 11Jl9.

On amendments Nos. 20, 21,221 and 23: These· amendments pro­ Sec-retary. of War, Washington, D. 0. pose to correct grammatical errors by changing the phraseology MY DEAR Sm: I have just returned from a visit to the battle fields and dev~tated areas of France, whe.re I had an opportunity to obseFve certain from singular to plural. The House recedes. conditions as they: affect our .Army. I am prompted to set before you On amendment No. 24: This amendment proposed to strike out some ot the adverse conditions which have come to my attentinn. My in­ a provision of the House that not more than one person shall be. formation co~s- from observation and through conversation with many . officers and hundreds of1 private soldiers whom I have met and with appointed to a clelical position from the same family. The Sen­ whom I talked on trains, at stations, and in the villages and camps. I ate recedes. am fully mindiul ot the fact that conditions of army llfe can not be On amendment No. 25: This amendment provides that, so far made to compare in comfort and convenience with those in civil life.. Neither officers nor soldiers expect any such conveniences, but as citt~ a practicable, the director shall use the reemployment registers zens of the United States we feel that they are entitled to the best accom­ e tablished by the Civil Service Commission as. a result of the modatio~ that can reasonably be provided. Executive order of November 29, 1918. The House recedes with We ha-ve been led to. believe, through governmental publicity agents, that our combat troops were surrounded with safeguards to health and an amendment that the words "of the Census" be added after morale such as have never been known before in the history of warfare. the word "Director," in line 20 of the bilL · To that end we have contributed without stint or limit. From personal . On amendment No. 26: This amendment proposed to strike out observation I am convinced that the statement concerning the excep­ tional welfare of the troops is far from the truth, and when the soldiers nll of section 8 as passed by the House and to insert certain pro­ return and are free to speak they will condf;'mn in no uncertain language ~i ions that would have. been required in case Senate amend, the incompetency and neglect of those who have been responsible for the ment No. 1 had been adopted by your conferees. In conference­ loss of life and wasted health of their comrades. I am free to admit that even under the most favorable circumstances the House text of section 8 was restored and the. words " forestry war is wasteful; that irregularities are unavoidable; and that because and forest products " added in the second line of the third and . ot the uncertainties. and sudden exigencie in the movement of troops fourth paragraphs of said section in order to conform with the proper provlsinn can not always be made. But now that hostilities have ceased it seems: to me to be wholy inexcusable and indefensible language used in the first paragraph of the bill as passed by the_ that soldiers should be subjected to such conditions as prevail in some House. In addition thereto the phraseology of the last para­ parts of the Army in France to-day. graph, relatiYe to. the number, form, and subdivision of inquiries, To make concrete what I have stated in general terms, may I call your attention to conditions existing at Camp Pontazzen, 4 miles from' as passed by tile House, was changed so as to m-ake it clearer. . Brest? This is one of the. ports where returning soldiers await the . On amendment No. 27: Sectlo:n 9 as passed by the House pro­ time of their embarkation to the States. For a year and a hal! thil:f Tided for the appointment of supervisors by the Secretary of port has been a place of· debarkation. One might naturally suppose that within that time adequate. facilities for the care of troops would Commerce upon the recommendation of the Director of the Cen­ be found here. Yet wholly opposite conditions prevall. Troops arrive sus and the Senate amendment proposed that they shall be ap­ in crowded: box cars, and, after standing for hours without cooked foodo' pointed by the President by and with the advice and consent of are marched through slime and mud and rain to this camp,· where ac· commodations are supposed to be provided. It must be remembered' the Senate. This amendment also contained certain legislation that the men who have been brought to Brest during the past two· relating to amendment No. 1, which was not agreed to. The months are mostly class B and C men, who have just been discharged Senate recedes. from hospitalS, wbere they have been treated for wounds and disease.' Each man carries a full equipment (weighing about 60 po'Ullds), with On amendment No. 28: This am:endment is. not necessary, as , the- exception of his arms and ammunition. Is it any wonder that out Senate amendment No. 1 was not adopted by your conferees; of a casual company of 150 men 64 ot the number should fall out on th~ hence the Senate receded from this amendment and restored the march from the station to the camp? Many of the tents have no ftoors and the troops do not all have even the customary straw ticks, -but House text. have had to sleep on the wet ground with only their blankets for pro! , On amendments Nos. 29, 30 and 31: These three amendments tection. The lack of camp kitchens compels these convalescent &oldier8 simply -correct typographical errors that were made in the print­ to stand in line in the rain for from nne to two hours to be fed. Th · very few barracks that have been provided for the officers leak, and ing of the bill. The House recedes. most gf them have no heat. The sanitary conditions, or, rather, the On amendment No. 32: This am-endment simply changes the lack of sanitary conveniences;. is thoroughly disgraceful. . phraseology, so the House recedes. Th~ only explanation of the wonderful endurance and patience of the men under existing conditions is the overwhelming desire to return On amendment No. 33: The Honse bill directed that an enu­ home at the earliest date and the knowledge that if they are taken to merator should be an actual resident of the subdivision within the hospital or make complaint that it will delay their home-coming. which his duties are to be performed, but made an exception I am aware that an investigation of conditions was recently ordered and that the publl~ was- told that the situation had been improvecL I In the cases. of persons residing in the same city. The amendment l'egre.t to advise you that most of my information deals with conditions simply makes the same. rule applicable to persons living in subsequent to the superftclal insPection, and I would most earneStly; townships and other civil divisions. The House recedes. urge you to take some drastic action in this matter. Surely the people of America, who willingly .;rave their sons Rnd On amendment No. 34: This amendment proposes to ex­ Jtladl:y, contributed money to provide for theh' wenare._have a tlgbt tD pedite the. e1;1umeration in cities whieh had a population of fnsist that decent provisions shall be made for them. Unless somethin.g 2,500 or more inhabitants at the last census, This. mean's that ls done to relieve such situations as I have described we may expeet a . harvest ot death and disease that w1Il make the casualties BDSW.n:ed the work must be completed in two weeks instead of one month. 1n battle seem small by eomparison. I am flrmly conVInced that tlds /1. large number of cities which had more than 2,500 inhabitants is a matter of vital importance, affecting, as it does, the lives of our returning soldiers. a_nd less than 5,000 inhabitants in 1910 now have over 5,000 in­ Very truly, yoms, ED

3. A letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting By Mr. HICK§): A bill (H. R. 152.40) authorizing the Secre­ copy of colll1Iit1nication from the Secretary of the Interior sub­ tary of War to donate to the village of Centerport, N. Y., one mitting a supplemental estimate of appropriation required by German cannon or fieldpiece; to the Committee on Military the Bureau of Mines for the American University Experiment Affairs. Station, fiscal year 1920 (H. Doc. No. 1739) ; to the Committee By Mr. GEORGE W. FAIRCHILD: A bill (H. R. 15241) au­ on Approptiations and ordered to be printed. thorizing the Secretary of War to donate to the·city of Walton, 4. A letter from the Secretary of War, transmitting supple­ N. Y., one German cannon or fieldpiece, to be placed in the city mental statement showing balances of appropriation, total park; to the Committee on l\lilitary Affaii·s. amounts withdrawn from the Treasury, amounts covered into By Mr. GARRETT of Texas: A bill (H. R. 15242)· for the ·the surplus fund,. arid b~lances remaining in the Treasury, also erection of a public building at Bro\Ynsville, Tex.; to the Com­ expenditures made by the several bureaus and offices of the .mittee on Public Buildings and Grounds. War Department since the passage of the act of June 15, 1917 By Mr. McCULLOCH: A bill (H. H. 15243) authorizing and (H. Doc. No. 1740); to the Committee on Expenditures in the directing the Secretary of the Treasury to acquire, by purchase, 1Var Department and ordered to be printed. · condemnation, or otherwise, a suitable site aml cause to be erected thereon a suitable building for the use and a.ccom o

. By ~Ir. BA HARA H: A bill (H. R. 15263) for the acquisi­ Also, a bill (H. R. 15288) donating a captured German cannon tion of additional gi'Otmds and the eTection and constructio..'l or field gun and carriage to the town of Thoma , Tucker County,, thereon of an ncldition to tlle United States post-office building W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on Military at Atlantic City, N. J.; to the Committee on Public Buildings Affairs. - . · . and Grounds. Also, a bill (H. R. 15289) donating a captured German cannon Also, a bill (H. R. 15264) to increase the limit of cost of post­ or field gun and carriage to the city of Charles Town, Jefferson office site and building at Millville, N. J.; to the Committee on County, W. Va., for. decorative purposes; to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. Military Affairs. By l\lr. GOULD: A bill (H. R. 15265) for the- erection of a Also, a bill (H. .R. 15290) donating a captured German cannon public building at Lyons, N. Y.; to the Committee on Public or field gun and carriage to the city of Philippi,.Barbour County, Buildings and Grounds. W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the· Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 15266) to increase the limit of cost for the Affairs. Federal post-office building at 'Vaterloo, N. Y.; to the Com­ Also, a hlll (H. R. 15291) donating a captured German cannon mittee on Public Buildings and Grounds. or :field gun .and carriage to the town of Kingwood, Preston By ~lr. RAlUSEY: A bill (H. R. 15267) authorizing the Secre­ County, W. Va., for decorative purposes;· to the Committee on tary of War to donate to the borough o;f Sussex, Sussex County, Military Affairs. N . .J., one German cannon or fieldpiece; to the Committee ·on Also, a bill (H. R. 15292) donating a captured German cannon Military Affairs. or field gtm and carriage to the city of Martinsburg, Berkeley By Mr. CHARLES B. SMITH: A bill (H. R. 15268) to estab­ County, W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on lish a gold currency and a silver currency on a basis of lnter­ Military Affairs. cltangeable Yalue throughout the world; to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 15293) donating a captured German cannon Coinage, "\Vei..,hts, and l\feasures. or field gun and carriage to the town of Harpers Ferry, .Jefferson By 1\Ir . .riNTHONY: A bill (H. R. 15269) donating captured Cotmty, W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on German cannon and cannon balls to the city of Leavenworth, l\lilitary Affairs. . Kans. ; to tile Committee on Military Affairs. . Also, a bill (H. R. 15294) authorizing the acquisition of a site Also, a bill (H. R. 15270) donating captured German cannon and the erection of a public building at Philippi, W. Va.; to the or cannon balls to the city of Topeka, Kans.; to the Committee Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. on Military Affairs. By l\1r. DRUKKER: A bill (H. R. 1529~) authorizing the Sec­ Also, a bill (H. R. 15271) donating captured German cannon retary of War to donate to the borough of Prospect Park, N. J., nml cannon balls to the city of Seneca, Kans. ; to the Com­ one German cannon or fieldpiece; to the Committee on Military mittee on Military Affair . Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15272) donating captured German cannon By l\lr. STEAGALL: A blll (H. R. 15296) to provide for the or cannon balls to the city of Hiawatha, Kans.; to the Com­ purchase of a site and the ereCtion of a public building thereon mHtce on Military Affair . at Ozark, in the State of Alabama; to the Committee on Public Also, a bill ( ll. R. 15273) donating captm·ed German cannon Buildings and Grounds. and cannon balls to the city of Troy, Kans.; to the Committee By Mr. O'SHAUNESSY: A bill (-H. R. 15297) for the erection on l\lilitary Affairs. of a Federal building for the United States post office at Warren, Also, a bill (H. R. 15274) donating captured German cannon R. I. ; to tl}e Comri:littee on Public Buildings and Grounds. or cannon balls to the city of Holton, Kans.; to the Committee By Mr. LEVER: A bill (H. R. 15298) for the p1l!'chase of a ()n Military Affairs. post-office site at Batesburg, S. 0.; to the Committee on Public A1 o, a bill (H. R. 15275) donating captured German cannon Buildings and Grounds. · nnu cannon balls to the city of Oskaloosa, Kans. ; to the Com­ Also, a bill (H. R. 15299) for the purchase of a post-office ite mittee on Military ~.vfairs . at St. Matthews, S. C. ; to the Committee on Public Buildings and . Also, a bill (H. R. 15276) donating captured German cannon Grounds. or cannon balls to the city of Atchison, Kans.; to the Committee Also, a ·bill (H. R. i5300) for the purchase of a post-office site on l\lilitary Affairs. at Bishopville, S. C. ; to the Committee on Public Buildings and Al o, a bill (H. R. 15277) donating captured German cannon Grounds. anu cannon balls to the city of Horton, Kans.; to the Com­ By Mr. CAMPBELL of Pennsylvania: A bill {H. R. 1.5301) mittee on 1\Iilitary Affairs. increasing the limit of cost for a Federal bnilding at McKees . By l\Ir. OSBORNE: A bill (H. R. 15278) increasing the limit Rocks, Pa. ; to the Committee on Public Buildings a.nd Grounds. of cost for a Federal building at San Pedro, Cal. ; to the Com­ By Mr. BUUNETT: A bill (H. R. 15302) to prohibit immigra­ mittee on Public Building and Grounds. tion for a period of four years, and for other purposes; to the By Mr. BOWERS: A bill (H. R. 15279) donating a captured Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. German cannon or field gun and carriage to the city of Pied­ By Mr. WEAVER: A bill (H. R. 15303) authorizing the Secre­ mont, Mineral County, W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the tary of War to donate to the town of Columbus, N.C., one Ger-, Committee on Military Affairs. man cannon or fieldpiece ; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15280) donating a captured German cannon Also, a bill (H. R. 15304) authorizing the Secretary of War or field gun and carriage to the town of Davis, Tucker County, to donate to the town of Hendersonville, N. C., one German can~ ,v ..Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on Military non or fieldpiece ; to the Committee on Military A:fia.irs. Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15305) authorizing the Secretary of War Also, a bill (H. R. 15281) donating a captured German cannon to donat~ to the town of Brevard, N.C., one German cannon or or field gun and carriage to Romney, Hampshire County, W.Va., fieldpiece ; to the Committee on Military Affairs. for decorative purposes ; to the Committee on Military A.:ffairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15306) authorizing the Secretary of War Al o, a bill (H. R. 15282) donating a captured German cannon to donate to the town of Sylva, N.C., one German cannon or field­ or field gun and carriage to Petersburg, Grant Coul}ty, \V. Va., piece; to the Committee on Military Affairs. · for decorative purpo es; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15307) authorizing the Secretary of War to_ Also, a bill (H. R. 15283) donating a captured German cannon donate to the town of Franklin, N. C., one German cannon or or field gun and carriage to the city of Morgantown, Monongalia fieldpiece; to the Committee on Military Affairs. County, W. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 15308) authorizing the Secretary of War Military Affairs. to donate to the town of l)Iurphy, N. C., one German cannon or Also, a bill (H. R. 15284) donating a captured German cannon fieldpiece ; to the Committee on Military Affairs. or field gun and carriage to the city of Keyser, Mineral County, .Also, a bill (H. R. 153D9) authorizing the Secretary of War \V. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on Military to donate to the town of Rutherfordton, N. C., one German Affairs. cannon or fieldp1ece; to the Committee on l\lilitary Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 15285) donating a captured German cannon Also, a bill (H. R. 15310) authorizing the Secretary of War to or field gun and carriage to the town of Parsons, Tucker County; donate to the town of Marion, N.C., one German cannon or :field­ "\V. Va., for decorative purposes; to the Committee on Military piece; to the Committee on l\Iilitary Affairs. Affair . Also, a bill (H. R. 15311) authorizing the Secretary of War to Also, a bill (H. R. 15286) donating a captm·ed German cannon donate to the. town of Cliffside, N. C., one German cannon or or fiel

Also, a bill (H. R. 15314) authorizing the Secretary of War to 1 By 1\Ir. HOLLINGSWORTH: 1\Iemorial of Low Hanhvare donate to the town of Robbinsville, N. C., one German c.annon or Store, and 60 others, of Steubenville, Ohio, against Government fieldpiece; to the Committee on Military Affairs. . control of telegraph lines; to the Committee on Interstate and By Mr. FA.RR: A bill (H. R. 15315) authorizing the Secretary Foreign Commerce. . of 'Var to de1iY"er to the city of Scranton, Pa., one cannon or By 1\lr. KE~'NEDY of Rhode I land:· Petition of 24 citizens fielUpiece, with carriage, captured in the war with Germany, to- of Newport, R. I., for GoYernment mrnership of railroads; to gether with a suitable number of shells; to the Committee on the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. 1\Iilitary Affairs. By Mr. LINTHICUM: Petition of Maryland Glass Corpora- By Mr. FULLER of Illinois: Resolution (H. lle . 531) request- t.ion, of Baltimore, l\Id., protesting against the adoption of metric ing the President to communicate to the Hou e certain informa- system at present time; to the Committee on Ways and Means. tion regarding the 'Var Trade Board; to the Committee on Al o, petition of l\1. C. Dunn, Baltimore, Md., urging enact- Interstate and Foreign Commerce. ment of legislation to restrict immigration along the line of bill Hy Mr. SillS: Resolution (H. He . 532) providing for the con- introuuced by RepresentatiY"e BlJTI~E'lv.r, of Alabama; to the Com­ sideration of H. n. 12352, entitle<.l "A. bill for the retirement of mittee on Immigration and 1\aturalization. employees in tl1e classified chil se1·vice"; to tlle Committee on Also, petition of Harry T. White, Baltimore, 1\Id., urging rc- llnles. peal of postal zone rate law, which if allowed to tand would be By 1\lr. l\IA..SON: Resolution (II. Res. 533) directing the Com- damaging to allied printing industries; to the Committee on mittee on Civil Service to ilwestigate the charge that certain Ways and 1\leans. citizens are discriminated against on account of color; to the Also, petition of W. 1\I. Talbott, 1\ew York City, urging the ColLmittee on Reform in the Civil Service. passage of House bill 13236, for relief of certain noncornmis- By l\fr. HEFLIN: Joint resolution. (H.. J. Re . 400) to pren'nt sioned. officers of the United. States Army who were recalle<.l to gamblin

By Mr. WOOD of Indiana: Petition of common council of .MESSAGE FROM THE IIO SE. the city of Hammon