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3101 Clifton Ave, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220 (513) 221-1875 phone, (513) 221-7812 fax americanjewisharchives.org '' •• .. ,.. 3 tD .-10·. 3 THE AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE 0... D> date February 9, 1981 ~ Abe Karlikow a. to c from M. Bernard Resnikoff 3 subjeot Februaf'Y 1st Symposium on Religious Pluralism A departmental report on the national consultation on religious pluralism will follow in due course. Meanwhile, as a part of that report, I enclose the following: 1) Conclusions and Recommendations 2) Copy of article which appeared in Ha'aretz and rough English translation 3) Copy of article which appeared in Ma'ariv and rough English translation More to come . MBR/sw Encl. dictated by not read

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Symposium on ·RELIGIOUS PLURALISM IN ISRAEL AND ·IN THE AMERICAN JEWISH COMMUNITY

Conclusions and Reconunendations 1. Purpose and Framework of the Sumposium a. The purpose of the symposium that took place on February 1, 1981 in Jerusalem was to convene a selected group of concerned and influential individuals from all walks of life, including orthodox, conservative, reform and secular, to discuss if, what and how to promote religious pluralism in Israel, and if and what can be learned from the experience of the American Jewish community • . In particular, the goal was to see how the issue can be addressed from the legal, legislative, educational and political aspects . b. The basic ·premise was that it is impossible, at least at the present, to convince the orthodox establishment to accept religious pluralism in the Jewish life in Israel. Since the purpose of the symposium was to discuss · and think how to promote rel igious pluralism in Israel, and not to become a platform for a debate between the orthodox establishment and the representatives of the conservative and reform congregations in Israel, it was decided not to invite at this stage representatives of the orthodox establishment. However, influential orthodox Jews with an open mind to the issue were invited and participated (such as Professor A. Auerbach, Professor z. Falk, etc.). The question is: what policy should be adopted regarding the involvement of the orthodox establishment in the t'uture? c. The American Jewish Committee took the initiative in convening the symposium in order to provide a framework which is not identified with the three Jewish denominations and can attract the "seculars" as well. The question now is: if and i:o what extent can and should the A.JC get involved in any further steps to be taken? d. Petahim: The initiative to involve .Petahim as a partner was .desgned to give to the project· an Israeli dimension and to ·get the involvement of high level Israeli intellectuals who are involved in Jewish thinking and Jewish life. ·

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2. Evaluation of the Symposium ..~ a. Participation 1. The number and level of participation was very good. The 45 participants (that were carefully selected) were of a very high intellectual level. Many of them are influential in Israel's political, legal and cultural life. Among them were Members of Wirshubsky and Gideon Hausner, former Member of Knesset S. Zalman Abramov, former Supreme Court Justice Zvi Berenson, Professor Uhrbach, Mr. Mordechai Bar-On, educator Moshe Kerem, Professor and former Member of Knesset Haim Klinghoffer, etc. . - 2. The orthodox, reform, conservative and "seculars" were all represented. However, more ·orthodox participation wouid have been helpful. The representatives of the Labor Movement were busy at the Labor Party convention and therefore did not attend. This should be corrected in the future. It should be mentioned that the kibbutz movement was ably represented. b. The D"iscus·sions The level of the discussions was very high and very deep. · It constituted a good basis for continued ideological and practical deliberations. Petahim plans to d€vote a special issue to sum up the discussions. This should promote a continued · discussion and dialogue possibly also with the orthodox establishment. • In part of the symposium, the participants carried on with monologues, but this was corrected in the latter part of the discussions. c. No Conse·nsus· on· Legis·lation All of the participants agreed that the conservative and reform movements have the right to equal existence in Israel. There was no agreement whether legislation by the Knesset and political moves through the parties are desireable •• Professors A• .Uhrbach, and z. Falk, and Ms. A. Aderet (of Kibbutz Ayelet HaShahar)° did not think legislation will help the cause of pluralism and may even hurt it "Because the conservative and reform movements may then be blamed for politicizing religion the same way the orthodox establishment is blamed today." (Quote by Prof~ A.~ .Urhoach ·.) • . Members of Knesset Ha·usner and Wirshubsky, forme.r·Member of Knesset Abramov,. Justice Berenson. and many others voiced the opinion that only legislation and political action will provide religioµs pluralism with a real chance to survive and develop in Israel. · 3

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l. That there must be a continuation of the AJC's and Petahim's initiative and ~hat the symposium should not remain a one-time event. 2. That the organizers of the symposium will analyse the deliberations of the symposium and decide how to proceed. 3. That if and when a subsequent symposium will be convened it should focus on more specific issues (since the broader .. aspects of religious pluralism in Israel were addressed in the present symposium) •. e. Publicity The symposium received fairly good publicity. Two articles appeared in the leading Israeli newspapers Ha •·aretz and Ma I ariv.

3. Recomm:end·ations a. Continuing the Mome·ntum The success of the symposium should serve as a leverage to continue the momentum that was started. A meeting of a small number of influential and concerned individ.uals should be convened in the very near future to discuss further steps. The meeting should include some of the participants in the symposium and others who were invited but could not come. They should represent the orthodox, conservative, reform, "secular," .labor and kibbutz movement, the academia, the business community, etc. I recommend inviting, among others: Member of Knesset Wirshubsky, s. Zalman Abramov, Mordechai Bar-On, Zvi Berenson, Ari Rath, Dr. Jack Cohen, Dr. Ray Artz, Dr. Lee Levine, Mike Rosnak, Rabbi Moshe Tutnauer, Haim Weiler, Rabbi Michael Klein, Saadia Gelb,. Moshe Kerem, z. Zamerer, Joseph Bentwich and Yosef Emanuel. It. is recommended to invite Baim Zadok as well.

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The meeting should concern itself with the ·following agenda: · · l.· Politica'l ·a·cti·on In view of the forthcoming elections is it desirable to approach the parties in order to assure that their platforms will include a clause supporting religious pluralism in Israel, including legislation by the Knesset. If the meeting will decide that political actions are desirable, a plan of practical steps should be adopted. 2. ·Legis·1ation What is the best way to support the bill that was recently bro~ght before the Knesset? 3 •· Educ·ation How to .promote the establishment of more "mesorati" schools, :similar to the one on French Hill. in Jerusalem. The recent actions of Minister of Education Zevulun Hammer supporting such schools should serve as an encouragement for further actions. 4 •· Info·nnation A scheme for spreading information to the general public should be discussed. It should aim at creating an under­ standing of the issue among the public in order to generate support for the forthcoming legislation, political actions, . educational programs and to promote a national debate. This can be done through the media, seminars and an- intensive program of lectures all over the country, before and after the elections. 5. The Framework It should be decided whether or not the AJC can and should be directly involved or should a special committee be established outside of the AJC with the AJC as a participant or as a silent supporter •

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DISCRIMINATION AGAINST JEWS IN ISRAEL

Christians, Moslems, and' the other religious groups have a separate existence and full religious freedom, says . Justice Zvi Berenson, at a symposium in Jerusalem on religious pluralism.

by Amos Ben-Ve~ed .. Aside from the three official religions in Israel Judaism-( Islam, and Christianity -- there are people of other faiths and smaller sects such as Druze, Bahai, Buddhist and others, who have a separate existence and full religious freedom. Not so the Jews, says Supreme Court Justice Zvi Berenson. Mr. Berenson spoke at a symposium on Religious Pluralism.. sponsored by The American Jewish Committee and the Ptahim quarterly at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem, on Sunday. · About forty· people who are involved with the subject, from . all three major streams of Judaism, a·s well as some defining themselves as secular, participated in the seminar. Apart from the former justice's remarks, the following opinions were voiced: · Mr. Moshe Kerem (educator, former principal of Oranim Seminary, secular): Politics has taken the place of faith, and it is now permissable in the name of party or organization to do negative things out of a manipulative kind of pragmatism. Professor Ze'ev Falk (jurist, Orthodox): Tolerance is founded either in relativism -- i.e., that no one can claim truth is completely on his side -- or on a broad base of common belief. Dr. Pinhas Rosenblatt (educator, Orthodox): Judaism is not a ~atter of truth but rather a way of life. One must ~ind the lowest common denominator while remaining aware of differences. Mr. Amnon Hadari (editor of a Conservative weekly)_: Judaism is neither tolerant nor authoritative. The contradiction which is the reason for this discussion is between ·a generally liberal world view and Jewish tradition. Professor Yitzhak Englehard (jurist, Orthodox): There is .a pr.ice for unifying the nationa, and conversion .accoi::ding to· ha1·acha is part of the price that must be paid •

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Mr. Avraham Aderet (kibbutz member, secular): A terrible , spiritual blight afflicted the first Zionist Congresses -­ • Judaism had no place in the Zionist utopia of those days. No one is preventing us from educating our youth as we like. Legal recognition will not help: the Conservative congregation in Safed can't even manage to .get a minyan on Shabbat. Dr. Menachem Hartom (Orthodox): There are those who think that halacha is binding. Some think part of it is binding. And some think it is not binding. That is not religious pluralism, it is pluralism within the nation. Professor Efraim Orbach (lecturer, Orthodox): The goal of the Zionist movement was for Zionism -- not Judaism -- to unite .. the Jews. Zionist Jews stood for secularism and were proud of it. TWenty Members· ·o·f Kn·es·s·e·t n·ic·ta·te Dr. M.ichael Korinaldi (jurist, Orthodox): The Karaites have a separate Bet Din which has no legal status, yet the government pays .the salaries of the dayanim, and the Ministry of Interior records its decisions. Even among Jews it is possible to arrive at a compromise. - ·Mr. Zvi Tzameret (principal, Kiryat Shmona High School, secular): It is not good that all general schools are made secular. The kind of education that is brought in for my students is not suitable for them, because they are traditional, familiar with prayer, and respect their heritage. Mr. s. Zalman Abramov (jurist): The previous gene.ration advocated secularism with religious fervor. This has n ·OW dissolved, and a crisis has been created, which motivates secular Jews to see nice things in religion~ M.K. Mordechai Wurshubsky (jurist-, secular): Religion in Israel is a dividing force. Religious Judaism has never had any consideration for the feelings of secular Jews. Twenty out of 120 members of Knesset have dictated a way of life which most of the people do not want. A law guaranteein.g equality to other streams would at least halt the polarization betwee~ religious ·and secular Jews. In his opening speech, Mr. Berenson pointed out that no legislation or declaration (such as the Declaration of Independence) has constitutional status. Therefore, the .Knesset has the power to change them. But in~tead, the Knesset has restricted religious · freedom of Jews, and Jews in congregations which are not Orthodo~ are not recognized as. religious Jews. The solution, in his opinion, ·will come about only with ma:ss .imriligration of · non­ Orthodox Jews to Israel.

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Mr . Moshe Kerem (who is a member of Kibbutz Gesher Haziv), expanded his comments about politics, saying that Zionism was based on the idea of optimistic rational secularism. But it has gone through a process well known in sociology from a charismatic movement to an establishment and from there to barren· bureaucra·cy ~ Today, when a . kibbutx volunteer wants to convert in order to marry a kibbutznik, she is advised to lie -- this was said by the official governrne.nt representative. This is one of the consequences of leaving fundamental values in the hands of politicians. · Other speakers referred to the many facets of Judaism: the wide range of mitzvot between man and fellow man, the beauty of the tradition, the yearning for values, and more. The speakers remained divided on possib1e solutions to the problem of pluralism. Some reasoned, with Professor Orbach, that 0 It' s best to continue to live with the probl,ems." Others agreed with M.K. Wurshubsky, claiming that fr·om the point of view of Judaism, the present situat~on cannot stay as it is: if any other country in the world deared to recognize only one stream of Judaism, the entire Jewish worl:d -- including Israel would rise up as one man against discrimination. . iiiY·r-1 ~ C'ii!;i' ~,~,W'~ ri.n£li1 v~n

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In a. discussion on the subje_'ct ·of. Reli_gion and State at the • Van Lee·r Institute in Jer·usa·1em . PROFESSOR O~ACH: - "BECAUSE OF NATIONAL CONSIDERA'l;'IONS, BEN-GURIQN DECIDED 'THAT MATTERS PERTAINING TO MARRIAGE WOULD BE CONDUCTED ACCORDING TO HALACHA-"

·Justi·c·e Zvi' a-e·ren·s·on·:· · ·11The· -right to freedom Qf i;-eligiqn ls n·ot. fully gua:rante·ea to ·Jews 'in Israel"

by Yosef Tzuriel

"The right to freedom of religion is not fully guarante~d to Jews in Israel," said Supreme· court Justice zvi Berenson in a discussion on the· subject of ·Religion and State which took place . last night at the Van Leer I~stitute in Jerusalem. In the same discussion, Professor Efraim Orbach stated that for n~tional · and Zionist reasons,· David Ben-Gurion decided .that marriage matters in Israel would be determined according to'. ha1·acha. Former M.K. s. Zalman Abramov, Cpairrnan of the World Jewish Congi;-ess in Israel, opened the meeting. He · claimed that Israel · stands before two blocs which on the outs·ide appear . clearly defined: one religious and the other secular. Bi:it. the truth ' is that there are no such bl0cs. Pluralism exists first of all in thereligious camps ~here it ranges from Professor Orbach to Neturei Karta•s Uri· Blau. Justice Zvi Berenson claimed that the right to freedom of religion and conscience is defective in. various ways, and anyone wanting to establish religious pluralism in Israel should see to it that masses of Jews who .are not defi~ed as orthodox wil~ ~ome on aliy~ · and change things. · •. Educator and public figure Moshe Kerem, former Principal of Ora.nim S~minar, summed up the crucial. need for pluralism in Israel by saying that the youth who are defined as secular· must be hf ir"ed up" • In his words: "We,• ve stopped teaching the history of Israel. Religious pluralism is essential for our younger . generation, whose mission it ·is to continue the Zionis,t vision."

The word "pluralism ·"·· doesn • t ·bo.ther Prqtessor Ze 1 ev Falk, but as a religious Jew he poses ques'tions: "What do we mean by the Jewish-character of .the country? How · do we relate to the definition of 'Who .is a Jew?'" And regarding the status quo he says: "It has been an.d remains the bas.is upon which the Zionist movement was · founded · and the. State of Israel established."

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·l Professor Yitzhak Englehard, also religious, pointed out other difficulties. He said: "Those who demand religious pl'uralism are demanding something destructive. The problem is, what will replace those signs of unity among the segments of the Jewish people, and worse, if we turn to the State and demand that .it suggest legislative solutions to the problems raised here, we will have laid the foundation. for a final split in the nation." Avraham Aderet, of Kibbutz Ayelet Hashahar,· asked:"What will we do the day after the law permitting pluralism in Judaism is passed in the Knesset? The truth is, neither the Rabbinate nor the Knesset is preventing us from acting. We ourselves have revealed weakness and an inability to act. We, who boast of trailblazing, have not done what we should in the spiritual sphere. It seems to me that this protracted discussion of the need for religious pluralism just conceals our spiritual impotence. Who prevents us from praying, from creating a festive atmosphere on holidays, from bring the younger generation closer to Jewish values? Did non-Orthodox Zionism, at the beginning of the road, think about integrating religious values into the life of the Jewish people in its land?" Professor Efraim Orbach said: "Zionism had a problem with Judaism, but the biggest discussion was within Judaism, where the question of whether to join the Zionist camp came up everywhere. The fact that the question was raised created splits and divisions among Jews. And it must be said that the big break-away from religious values in that period came from· those who took pride in their irreligi-0usness and saw it as a value in itself." Professor Orbach said that by agreeing that marriage and divorce be conducted according to halacha, Ben-Gurion and his friends were not yielding or compromising, but were rather making a decision for national -- not religious -- reasons • . There was no capitulation to religious Judaism. It must be said, there­ fore, that Zionism has weakened and is now aware of the Judaism problem. And what is bothering it now is: "How to solve the problem of the existence of a ~ewish State within the framework of halacha." ' • ' A,~ i ,_~ ·--.·...... ~- ~·:; ·- ·~ . ~c~:;·e,;.;;~:l ·,~,~1~, ioi~:i :-u~i~i ni ~tvi~ ;y ,,,,:l-·'· -- ..

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· HOW TOLERANT · IS IS.RAEL! SO.CIETY?

uHow tol~rant is .Israeli society?' is a question that many may find worth pondering. Is the recent murder of an Israeli peace demonstrator· by a yet-unknown assailant a case in point~ or is this the si~gle act of ·a . social misfit? Such thoughts were perhaps on the minds of almost all who attended a fo~r-hour long discussion on tole~ance at the Van Le~r In­ stitute in Jerusalem ·1ast week.. But the subject was not political toler­ ance, as could be expected in a country torn by dissension over the: war in Lebanon . Instead, more than 100 pe.pple had accepted an invitation. issued by a group calling itself "Toleration" in order to discuss ·re- lationships between religious and secular Jews in Israel.l . ·

Judging by the behaviQr of the participants, there was anything but tolerance in the auditorium where the meet·ing too·k place: This may. ·have been a result of the attendance. No more than· six fU.pot (skull­ caps wo".'n by religious male Jews) were. ev·ident, and these were worn by four students _and .two elderly ·gentlemen. Almost half of all the participants were women, leaving it reasonably clear that only six to twelve perce·n~ coL1ld be described as religious Jews. The total au­ dience cons-isted of many · ~ollege~age people and· no small number of · middle.:,aged to elderly men and women. The invitations, it was noted by the .org_ariizers, wer;-e::di:stributed tQ the public at· large. There was no e.xplanatton why ·religiqus. J'ews had shown less interest in -the· ~iscussi· o_ns than.those present. · " .... . The discusdons were divided into two parts. The: first ha,-f was .i'n.­ tended to provide a description of the relationships between secular and re·ligiotis Jews which are factors .in measuring the tolerance of Israeli society. The s·econd half ·was to fncl.ude a discussion of the -­ ways and means of achieving tol~rance, if i_ndeed ..such fs lacking.

The. program·, however, di q not live up to the expect~·ti ans of the · organizers. ... Fault, if ~hy~ lies with the choice pf.the two journal- ; sts who . d~s-cri bed the situation between secul a.r and religious Jews·. Without a douht, Akiva Elder of Ha'aretz ·and Ya'akov Edelshtein of Hatzofeh (published -by the .) were mismatched and not suited to the task. The ·subject was meant .for historians or philosophers rather than journalists ot politici~ns.

Mr. Edelshtei n.attempted to describe the r elationships between secular and religious Jews from the vantage point of his own ex­ p~rience as a veteran journalist for a relig.ious-oriented newspaper, -2- and as an active observer • . His message was totally lost on his au­ dience, who were not interested in any historical episodes indicat­ ing the extent of ·intolerance for the religious Jew in the fonnative days of the State of Israel and latter years. Although he cited numerous examples, lac~d with anecdote's;·he was unable to penetrate the bias of his audience. His greatest shortcoming was his inabil­ ity to compete with a sophisticated audience which was justified in rejecting some of the conclusions that Mr. Edelshtein assumed we·re 11 facts 11 in his vocabulary·. On the other hand, Akiva Elder appeared. to have the necessary cre­ dentials to deal evenly witt:i .the issue, both as a journalist who 11 covers 11 the ultra-orthodox s~ene in Jerus·a1 em and one who attends. a course on Judaism entitled 11 Shora~him 11 (roots), although other­ wise a secu 1a r Jew. · His credenti a1 s, however, served no usef u1 purpose. He chose to concentrate on .the intolerance practiced by ultra-orthodox ertrernists towards secul.ar Jews, including emphasis . on the stone throwers from Mea Shearim who. have occasionally c1asheq with the police over Sabbath traffic in-observant neighborhoods. He also cited example~ of tendencies among Orthodox Jews to segregate th1emse 1ves from secular Jews. He did not dea 1 with the broader 'is­ sue of secular -and religious Jewish relationships from the perspect­ iv1e of mo.dern ·religious and secular Jews for whom tolerance ·is one of the fo,uildations of twentieth-century society.

Nearly two hours of lecturing by both _journalists ~ accompanied by comments from the audience, did no more than· stress the s~ntiment th.at secular Jews obviously feel thre~tened by their religious . counterparts. The question of tolerance for the religious Jew did not occur to the audience-as an importa~t aspect in the relationship between· both sides. The silent demand they made was that relfgious Jews must practice toleran(:e towards their nefghbors, and this means equal civil obligations on the one hand, and freedom to conduct one's lifestyle accordinq to one's own .consciencei ,on the other. · How this is to be accomplished in a Jewish State became the suoJect of the second half of the progrqm at the Van Leer institute.

The three lecturers invited to lead the seaond half of ·the discussi~n~ · were a petter choice than the two that preceded them. No represent­ ative of the ultra-orthodox was present, and presumabl y none were in­ vited. The three, all academicians, included two political f.igures and a theologian. Noticably absent was a representative of Israel 1 s Sephardi community, at a time when tension has been growin.g among ethnic groups in Israel ~t both the political and street level. Dr~ Yehuda Ben Meir, a member of the National Religious Party and Deputy Foreign Minister in th~ coalition government, represented the views of so-cal led. religious-national Jewry, while Or .• Arnnon Ruben­ stein, .a leading member of the Shinui Party and an advocate of civil rights, represented secular Jewish concerns. Somewhere in between was Dr . Pinhas Peli, a liberal rabbi and author-scholar, who could · have been expected to preach moderation. . -3... ·

There was a lack of intellectual integrity in the. fact that none of the three lecturer~ -~ad attended the first half. of the discussions. As such, they could not have _been !!Ware .of the ten_sipn Jri the au­ dience generated by the two journalists no·r anti cfpated the attitude of tho~e pre$ent. Had .they witnessed the total proceedings, thei·r point of departure could have focused on issues closer to h9me. In­ stead, what w~s said appeared to underscore known posiitions. ln­ terestingly, Or. Rubenstein, who is a jurist, does not advocate . sepatation of synagogue and state but believes that religious ob­ servances in the public domain aannot be le_gislated. On the other hand, Dr. Ben Meir argued that all legislation is a fonn of coercion and exists, primarily, for the public good . The question of toler­ ance was not· resolved.

February 21, 1983

111 1 Sovla.nu.t ' (Toleration), headed by Michael Cohen, wife of former Justice of the Supreme Court Haim Cohen, and an active community leader .in her own right, _is a movement of volunteers, without political pretensions, that attempts to cultivate mutual toler­ ance among people with different political, ideological, re­ ligious or cultural points of view, and seeks to promote non­ violent ways of conflict resolution. IJCIC•wccc consulta~lon .

Harvard., 26~28 ~ovemberi 1984·

REt.iGIOUS PWRALISM: l'l'S MEANING AND LIMITS. IN TBE WORLD 'i19DAY

MO~DAY, 26 NOVEMBER

9.30 Openi.ng of consultation Paper l: · "Is religious pluralism.necessary? If 50, is ~t pesSiblet' Hjchael Rosenack

Questions ·and disCUS$ion

~2.30 Lunch

lS.30 Paper 2: "Are there limits to reliqioua pluralism? If so, why?" • George Lindbeck Questions and discussion

18.30 Dinner 20.30 General ·discussion

TVESDAY, 27 ~OVEMBER ·.

"Religious pluralism: , Political science perspectives" Roger Fi.sher - ')\ ~ / . ~ , 'I JJ~ ,.. ~ i' ...... ,(' ... ~14.7 Quest ions ~a discu~'s·ion

10.30 .Coffee 11 ~ 00 "Bow does reliqious plurali~· work?" Brief summaries of papers prepared by a Jew· ~d a Chriatia.'"l from each of ~hre~ countries: Great Britain, USA and Israel 12.30 Lunch

.15.30 . General discussion 18.30 Dinne:t 20 •.30 General discussion

\ WEDNESDAY, 28 NOVEMBER

9.00 Presentation of araft joint statement and discussion 10.00 Coffee 10.30 Discussion conti~ued 11.30 Break · · 12 •.30 Lu,nch (di,tribution of· revised joint statement) \ .