2898 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 REPORTS OF COMMI'ITEES ON PUBLIC MEMORIALS 400. By the SPEAKER: Petition of the BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS American Bar Association petitioning con Under clause 3 of rule XXII, memori sideration of their resolution with reference to Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of als were presented and referred as fol House bill 1025; to the Committee on the committees were delivered to the Clerk lows: Civll Service. for printing and reference to the proper By the SPEAKER: Memorial of the Legisla calendar, as follows: ture of the State of North Dakota, memorial izing the President and the Congress of the Mr. CLARK: Committee on Rules. House United States to continue and provide for HOUSE OF. REPRESENTATIVES Resolution 198. Resolution for the consider- the continuation of the program of incentive . ation of House Joint Resolution 14 authoriz payments to farmers who increase their pro MoNDAY, APRIL 5, 1943 ing the execution of certain obligations under duction in 1943; to the Committee on Appro the treaties of 1903 and 1936 with Panama, priations. The House met at 12 o'clock noon. and other commitments; without amend Also, memorial of the Legislature of the The Chaplain, Rev. James Shera ment (Rept. No. 340). Referred to the House State of Washington, memorializing the Pres Montgomery, D. D., offered the following Calendar. ident and the Congress of the United States prayer: Mr. DIES: Committee on Rules. House to take action relative to the purchase, main Resolution 199. Resolution for the consider tenance, and operation of bridges across the Glory be to Thy name, 0 Lord Most ation of H. R. 2207, a bill to amend the Columbia River between Washington and Ore High. We pray for deliverance from the Nationality Act of 1940; without amendment gon by the United States; to the Committee clanging discords of men and for a high (Rept. No. 341). Referred to the House Cal on Ways and Means. grasp of the compelling realities which endar. make a people grand and enduring. In PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS this day which maintains self and ma PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS terialism, enable us to put conscience Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private Under clause 3 of rule XXII, public and character as our primary quests. bills and resolutions were introduced With these virtues· intellect and talent bills and resolutions were introduced and and severally referred as follows: severally referred as follows: pass into hcnor and a splendid fruition. By Mr. ANGELL: Reaffirm our unswerving convictions By Mr. HANCOCK: H. R. 2384. A bill for the relief of Frank A. to the everlasting verity that there is H. R. 2376. A bill to amend· the Internal McMenamin; to the Committee on Claims. Revenue Code with respect to the allowances By Mr. BUFFET!': no name under Heaven by which we can and abatement of income taxes assessed H. R . 2385. A bill for the relief of Nadine be saved, but by the name of Jesus only. against members of the armed forces; to the Gorman; to the Committee on Claims. In the passionate struggle for religious Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. COLE of New York: and political freedom, we pray for a re By Mrs. NORTON: H. R. 2386. A bill for the relief of Mary vival of godliness which proves itself in H. R. 2377. A bill providing for the option Hurley; to the Committee on Claims. the Golden Rule. Teach us that whither to repurchase by the seller of any lands or By Mr. FITZPATRICK: flow the spiritual streams, they revitalize buildings, or both, or any right or interest· H. R. 2387. A bill for the relief of John and remind us to build. on the impregna therein, so~d to the United States of America, Salfi; to the Committee on Claims. together with any improvements made there ble Rock of Ages. Keep our hearts pure By Mr. KEFAUVER: and humble, accepting with tranquillity on, when not needed for public use; to the H. R. 2388. A bill for the relief of T. E. Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. Epperson & Co., Inc.; to the Committee on the yoke of sacrifice without murmur or By Mr. PRIEST: Claims. complaint. Crown us with that spirit H. R. 2378. A bill to amend the Interstate By Mr. LARCADE: which ever avows and champions the Commerce Act with a view to the establish H. R. 2389. A bill for the relief of Desire J. determination that all pagan rebels shall ment and maintenance of a uniform classi Bouillion; to the Committee on Military Af be thrust from their thrones. Thus we fication of freight and a uniform scale of fairs. shall share in the glorious privilege of class rates, to be applicable in the case of By Mr. WENE: the crusaders of truth that freedom shall transportation of property by common car H. R. 2390. A bill for the relief of Joseph riers by railroad, and for other purposes; to survive and that the scepter of humanity Scarpella and Dorothy Scarpella; to the Com shall be righteousness and peace to all the Committee on Interstate and Foreign mittee on Claims. Commerce. the world. In the name of our Exemplar By Mr. RANKIN: and Saviour. Amen. H. R. 2379. A bill providing for the promo PETITIONS, ETC. tion of certain substitute rural carriers; to The Journal of the proceedings of Fri the Committee on the Post Office and Post Under clause 1 of rule XXII, petitions day, April2, 1943, was read and approved. Roads. and papers were laid on the Clerk's desk MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE By Mr. ROWE: and referred as follows: H. R. 2380. A bill to require registration of 396 By Mr. THOMASON: Petition of the A message from the Senate, by Mr. persons engaged in influencing legislat ion or board of trustees of the independent school Frazier, its legislative clerk, announced Government contracts and activities; to the district of the city of El Paso, Tex., urging that the Senate had passed without Committee on the Judiciary. the enactment of Senate bill 637, providing amendment bills and a concurrent reso By Mr. SHAFER: Federal aid for public schools; to the Com lution of the House of the following H. R . 2381. A bill to provide that in deter mittee on Education. titles: 397. By Mr. HOLMES of Washington: Reso mining need of individuals claiming old-age H. R. 218. An act for the relief of H. F. assistance $240 per year of the income and lution of the building and construction Mathis; resources of such individuals may be disre trades section of the Washington State H. R. 227. An act for the relief of the Tours garded; to tbe Committee on Ways and Federation of Labor adopted at convention Apartment Hotel; held in Yakima, Wash., March 13 and 14, Means. H. R. 402. An act for the relief of Frank T. 1943, requesting that the authority of local Been; By Mr. TAYLOR: housing · authorities be extended in order H. R. 2382. A bill to provide for the estab H. R. 598. An act for the relief of ThQlma that the housing program may be expedited; Cannon McGroary; lishment of a national cemetery in the Sara to the Committee on Banking and Currency. toga National Historical Park; to the Com H. R. 605. An act for the relief of Shumate 398. Also, resolution of building and con Investment Co.; mittee on the Public Lands. struction trades section of the Washington By Mr. CHAPMAN: H. R. 1128. An act for the relief of Bernice State Federation of Labor adopted at con James; H. R. 2383. A bill to amend the act known vention held in Yakima, Wash., March 13 and H. R.l131. An act for the relief of the as the Insecticide Act of 1910 (36 Stat. 14, 1943, requesting that Seattle be removed estate of Ola Fowler; 331), approved April 26, 1910; to the Com from list of critical labor supply centers H. R. 1276. An act for the relief of Raymond mittee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. and place on the critical industry list; to the W. Baldwin, Mattie Baldwin, and Clement By Mr. DOUGHTON: Committee on Military Affairs. B. Baldwin; H. J . Res. 111. Joint resolution to extend 399. By Mr. ROLPH: House Resolution No. H. R. 1279. An act for the relief of Lee the authority of the President under section 148 of the State of California, relating to Watts; 350 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended; to horse racing in California; to the Committee H. R.1459. An act for the relief of Alber ' the Committee on Ways and Means. on Agriculture. - tine Nast; 1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD~HOUSE 2899 H. R.1639. An act for the relief of Frank S. 734. An act to provide for the transfer tional amount not to exceed $250 to defray and Paulina Rublein and Mrs. Ethel Bowers; of Granville County to tht middle judicial funeral expenses of the said Lyle G. Peck. H. R .' 1691. An act to authorize the Secre district of North Carolina; tary of the Navy to pay the costs of trans S. 743. An act for the relief of Mr. and Mrs. The SPEAKER. The question is on portation of certam civilian employees, and Walter H. Kindon; agreeing to the resolution. for other purposes; S. 784. An act to amend that part of the The resolution was agreed to, and a H. R. 1724. An act to provide for the re act of June 24, 1910 (36 Stat. 619) relating motion to reconsider laid on the table. imbursement of certain civilian personnel to disposition of profits from sales of ships' for personal property lost incident to the stores; EXTENSION OF REMARKS emergency evacuation of the United States S. 800. An act to authorize certain officers Mr. DELANEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask Antarctic Service Expedition's East Base, of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard unanimous consent to extend my remarks Antarctica, on March 21, 1941, and for other to act as notaries public during the existence and include a resolution passed by the purposes; of war or a national emergency and 6 months H. R. 2070. An act to effectuate the intent thereafter; Assembly of the State of New York. of the Congress as expressed in section 1, S. 82"9. An act to amend sectlons 6 and The SPEAKER. Is there objection? paragraph (k) of Public Law 846, Seventy 11 of the act approved July 24, 1941, entitled There was no objection. seventh Congress, approved December 24, "An act authorizing the temporary appoint Mr. ROBINSON of Utah. Mr. Speaker, 1942, by adding to the list of institutions ment or advancement of certain personnel I ask unanimous consent to extend my named in said paragraph the name of the of the Navy and Marine Corps, and for other remarks and include a speech delivered American Tree Association, an institution purposes," as amended, to provide for the by me yesterday at the dedicatory exer similar to the institutions so named; and grade of commodore, and for other purposes; H. Con. Res. 17. Concurrent resolution au S. 839. An act conferring jurisdiction upon cises held in Arlington for William Henry thorizing the Committee on Ways and Means the United States District Court for the Jackson. of the House· of Representatives to have Middle District of North Carolina to hear, The SPEAKER. Is there objection? printed for its use additional copies of the determine, and render judgment upon the There was no objection. hearings held before said committee during claim of Etta Houser Freeman; Mr. GATHINGS. Mr. Speaker, I ask the current session relative to individual in S. 853. An act to amend the act of March unanimous consent to extend my re come t ax. 3, 1909, as amended by the act of January marks and include an article appearing The message also announced that the 23, 1942, providing for the sale of naval in the Commercial Appeal, of Memphis, stores, in order to authorize the Secretary Senate had passed bills and a joint reso of the Navy to permit the sale of naval stores Tenn., on March 30, 1943. lution of the following titles, in which in the continental United States during the The SPEAKER. Is there objection? the concurrence of the House is re war and 6 months thereafter to civilian offi There was no objection. quested: cers and employees of the United States, and Mr. GATHINGS. Also, Mr. Speaker, I S. 24. An act to authorize the Secretary of to other persons at stations where purchase ask unanimous consent to extend my re the Interior to issue patents for certain lands from private agencies is found to be im marks in the RECORD and include an to certain settlers in the Pyramid Lake Indian practicable; editorial appearing in today's Washing Reservation, Nev.; S. 854. An act for the relief of the First National Bank of Huntsville, Tex.; ton Post. S. 134 An act for the relief of the heirs of The SPEAKER. Is there objection? John J . Shields; S. 872. An act to authorize the President S. 135 An act to confer jurisdiction upon to appoint Frank T. Hines a brigadier gen There was no objection. the Court of Claims of the United States to eral in the Army of the United States; Mr. McMURRAY. Mr. Speaker, I ask hear, determine, and render judgment on the S. 879. An act to amend the act entitled unanimous consent to extend my re claim of the General State Authority of the "An act authorizing a reduction in the course marks in the RECORD rtnd include an edi Commonwealth of Pennsylvania; of instruction at the Naval Academy," ap proved June 3, 1941 (55 Stat. 238); torial appearing in the Chicago Sun, S. 169 An act designating the fourth Sat S. 903. An act to amend section 602 (d) (1) Friday, March 13, 1943. urday in September of each year as American of the National Service Life Insurance Act of The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Indian Day; 1940, as amended; and S. 170. An act for the relief of W. Cooke; There was no objection. S. J. Res. 31. Joint resolution providing for Mr. McMURRAY. Also, Mr. Speaker, S. 241 An act for the relief of Rachel awards of honor for agricultural production. Acerra; I ask unanimous consent to extend my S. 252. An act for the relief of Philip Klein The message also announced that the remarks and include an editorial from man; EeJ.1&.te had passed, with amendments in the Milwaukee Journal of March 21, 1943. S. 257. An act for the relief of Christine which the concurrence of the House· is The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Lund; requested, bills of the House of the fol There was no objection. S. 258 An act authorizing the Comptroller lowing titles: Mr. McGREGOR. Mr. Speaker, I ask General of the United States to consider the claim of Lew 0. Calhoun; H. R.170. An act to confer jurisdiction unanimous consent to extend my own re S. 373 An act for the relief of Charles upon the United States District Court for the marks and include an address given by Favors; Eastern District of Virginia to hear, determine, a professor of political science of the S. 376 An act for the relief of C. , Y. Webb; and render judgment upon the claim of 0. T. Ohio Wesleyan University. In checking S. 400 An act for the organization and Travis; with the Government Printing Office on functions of the Public Health Service; H. R. 535. An act for the relief of the legal guardian of Donna Pittel; this matter, it will cost in excess of the S. 510. An act for the relief of Inez Smith; H. R. 940. An act for the relief of Howard usual amount, $90. I ask unanimous con S. 516. An act for the relief of the Nash E. Dickison; sent that it be extended in the RECORD ville, Chattanooga & St. Louis Railway; H. R. 1153. An act for the relief of Cordie nevertheless. S. 555 . An act for the relief of Almos W. Underwood and Wilbur Kea; The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Glasgow; H. R. 1463. An act for the relief of Florence There was no objection. S 629 An act to authorize the conveyance B. Hutchinson; and of certain public lands in the State of Minne H. R. 1468. An act for the relief of Mr. and V FOODS TO FIGHT U-BOATS sota to such State for use for park, recrea Mrs. Samuel Azer. tional, or wildlife-refuge purposes; Mr. MUNDT. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan- S. 652 An act for the relief of Joseph A. LEONARD G. PECK imous consent to proceed for 1 minute. Lassiter; Mr. COCHRAN. Mr. Speaker, by di The SPEAKER. Is there objection? S. 671 . An act for the relief of Charles rection of the Committee on Accounts, I There was no objection. Francis Fessenden; present a privileged resolution (H. Res. Mr. MUNDT. Mr. Speaker, for some S. 684. An act for the relief of Lt. M. V. 195), which I send to the desk and ask thing over a year I have been making a Daven; study as time has permitted of the re S 695 An act for the relief of Joseph F. to have read. Bolger; The Clerk read as follows: markable developments taking place in S. 716. An act to provide for the appoint Resolved, That there shall be paid out of the fields of dehydrated and compressed ment of an additional circuit judge for the the contingent funds of the House to Leonard foods especially from the standpoint of seventh judicial circuit; G. Peck, father of Lyle G. Peck, late an em their utility in this era of global warfare. S. 717. An act for the relief of Cinda J. ployee of the House, an amount equal to 6 Tomorrow afternoon I have a special Short; months' salary compensation and an addi· order at which time I shall discuss and 2900 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 describe some of the immediate oppor POST-WAR SECURITY tional Service Life Insurance Act of 1940, tunities for saving shipping space which Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask as amended. food compression provides but which unanimous consent to proceed for 1 The Clerk read the title of the bill. thus far have not been utilized by those minute and revise and extend my re The SPEAKER. Is there objection to in authority. marks in the Appendix. the request of the gentleman from Ten With the cooperation of the Lend The SPEAKER. Is there objection? nessee? Lease Administration, the War Produc There was no objection. Mr. JENKINS. Reserving the right to tion Board, the Department of Agricul [Mr. LANDIS addressed the House. His object, will the gentleman make a short ture, the Food Distribution Administra remarks appear in the Appendix.] statement? tion, and the Quartermaster~ Corps of Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, this bill the Army I have collected a display of EXTENSION OF REMARKS was unanimously passed by the Senate charts, pictures, and diagrams which Mr. RIZLEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask at the request of the War Department. I am setting up in the Speaker's lobby unanimous consent to extend my re I have conferred with the gentleman tomorrow morning, and which I hope marks and include two short editorials. from Ohio [Mr. JENKINS], the gentleman Members will take time to examine. In The SPEAKER. Is there objection? from Kansas [Mr. CARLSON], and the my talk tomorrow afternoon I shall There was no objection. minority leader. 1\11 this bill does is to elaborate upon the lessons of this dis grant another120 days to issue national play. I also want to announce that fol MAIL FOR SOLDIERS service life insurance to men in the lowing my remarks tomorrow after Mr. BROOKS. Mr. Speaker, I ask armed forces. We have extended this noon I have arranged to provide some unanimous consent to proceed for 1 min time twice before, but they say they just taste samples of compressed cranberry ute and to revise and extend my remarks. have not had time to get all of those in sauce, and all Members of the House and The SPEAKER. Is there objection? the armed forces insured, and that the press gallery are invited to apply the There was no objection. now some men are losing their lives with ancient test that "The proof of the pud Mr. BROOKS. Mr. Speaker, the Office out this insurance because they have not ding is the eating thereof" to these com of War Information is sending vast had a chance to get to all of them. They pressed foods. Compressed cranberry quantities of propaganda literature to assure us that with this extension of an sauce will be reconstituted and prepared alien people of the Old World with the other 120 days they feel sure they will during an eat-as-you-watch demonstra thought and idea of building up their be able to get all of them insured. tion in the Republican cloakroom under morale to resist the Nazis and the Fas Mr. JENKINS. Reserving the right to the watchful eyes of Ben Jones, and you cists. This is requiring much place on object, Mr. Speaker, I see the gentleman are all invited to drop in and let your many an American ship plying the seas from Mississippi [Mr. RANKIN] is on his taste buds convince your judgment that and carrying food and supplies to our feet. I think the gentleman from Ten the science of food compression has troops on the 10 major fighting fronts nessee has stated the matter very clearly. passed the experimental stage and is of the world. At the same time, I am We have considered it in our committee ready to do trojan duty in this war. told space for the mail for our soldiers at different times and have had no op position to it. It is unanimous in our EXTENSION OF REMARKS is not available and our men serving at distant points all over the world often committee. Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I go months without hearing from home. With that I withdraw my reservation ask unanimous consent to extend my re The reverse is likewise true; and the of objection. marks and include a memorial from the fathers and mothers of these men go Mr. RANKIN. Mr. Speaker, reserving Iowa State General Assembly on post through weeks and months of agony, not the right to object, I want to say that roads .program. knowing the fate of their sons serving on ordinarily this legislation would have The SPEAKER. Is there objection? been referred to the Committee on World There was no objection. distant battlefields. War Veterans' Legislation, and that com Mr. J. LEROY JOHNSON. Mr. It is a fine thing to build up the morale mittee is for this bill. It should have Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to ex of other peoples for the purpose of re been passed sometime ago. tend my remarks and include an article sisting Hitler and his herds; but it is Mr. COOPER. The gentleman will re from the Washington Post of yesterday. more important to maintain the morale call other measures of this type have been The SPEAKER. Is there objection? of our own soldiers and sailors as well referred to the Corrmittee on Ways and There was no objection. as of their families back home. When we Means. The time has been extended Mr. MASON. Mr. Speaker, I ask win this war, it is going to be won with twice. They say they need another ex unanimous consent to extend my re our own people and our allies; and they tension in order to get all these men marks and include therein an article are the ones who should have prior place insured. by David Lawrence covering the con when it comes to the mail. Mr. RANKIN. Further reserving the fession of faith by Mme. Chiang Kai Last week, two young men from the right to object, Mr. Speaker, that came shek. southwest Pacific told me the story of about in this way: The Committee on The SPEAKER. Is there objection? not having heard from their families for World War Veterans' Legislation origi There was no objection. over 4 months when they were fighting nally had jurisdiction of this legislation, Mr. ROWE. Mr. Speaker, I ask in the Solomons and in Australia; and but a bill was reported from the Ways unanimous consent to extend my re pleaded for better mail service to the and Means Committee and went to the marks in the RECORD and include an edi troops. I make the same plea. Let us Senate. The Senate placed an insurance torial from the Akron Beacon-Journal. get the mail through and build up the rider on that bill, and since that time The SPEAKER. Is there objection? morale and spirits· of our own boys in all those bills have been amendments to There was no objection. Europe and Asia. that bill and have been automatically Mr. BUSBEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask The SPEAKER. The time of the gen referred to the Committee on Ways and unanimous consent to extend my re tleman from Louisiana has expired. Means. marks in the RECORD and include therein LEST WE FORGET Mr. COOPER. That is true; and this a bulletin issued March 13, 1943, by the Mr. BLAND. Mr. Speaker, I ask unan bill is an amendment. Church League of America, edited by imous consent to proceed for f minute Mr. RANKIN. But I want to assure George Washington Robnett, entitled and to revise and extend my remarks. the gentleman that the Committee on "Flashes From News b.nd Views," and an The SPEAKER. Is there objection? World War Veterans' Legislation favors open letter to the New York Times and There was no objection. this legislation. other New York papers. I have had [Mr. BLAND addressed the House. His The SPEAKER. Is there objection to an estimate made of the approximate remarks appear in the Appendix. J the request of the gentleman from Ten cost and it will be $101.25 more than is nessee? ordinarily allowed. I ask unanimous NATIONAL SERVICE LIFE INSURANCE ACT There was no objection. consent that this be printed in the Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, I ask The Clerk read the Senate bill, as A;tl>endix. unanimous consent for the immediate follows: The SPEAKER. Is there objeetion? consideration of the bill Mr. RAMSPECK. I yield to ~he gen the pay of Federal employees, and I bill to fix it up. This is more or less a tleman from Montana. think there are some instances where temporary measure to satisfy extraordi Mr. O'CONNOR. Does the gentle they should be raised, without putting nary wartime demands. man's bill have anything to do with the our stamp of approval on time and a half The minority members of the commit pay of the employees of the War De for overtime over 40 hours a week? I tee agreed with the provisions that are partment? I notice in today's paper do not approve a 40-hour week in war in the bill. There are no great changes that the Bureau of the Budget has made time. over and above the law which was en a slash of 100,000 Federal employees Mr. RAMSPECK. I do not think we acted last fall. The only provision that here in Washington-that is, recom are putting our stamp of approval on it, really amounts to anything is the addi mended that-and of the 100,000, 40,000 as the gentleman expresses it, because tion of a 5-percent bonus to individuals to 60,000 come out of the War Depart in the wage-and-hour law, to which the who are not subject to time and a half. ment alone. gentleman refers, or which the gentle The total cost over and above the bill Mr. RAMSPECK. I may say to the man has in mind, the divisor is the 260- which we passed last fall is not exces gentleman that is the result of legisla day year and that amounts to 30 per sive. It will only be $4,000,000. In tion which we passed here in December: cent. Here we used the 360 divisor, and other words, the minority Members do Mr. O'CONNOR. I think it was a the gentleman will find it in the same not find anything objectionable in this mighty wise thing and about time. section. It does not figure time and a bill and they supported it unanimously Mr. RAMSPECK. We are continuing half. It figures only 1.6 percent over in committee. that provision in this bill, requiring the straight time. So that we are not using Mr. SHORT. Will the gentleman Budget to make a report to the Congress the same method that is used under the yield? each 6 months. wage-hour law and we are not getting Mr. GALE. I yield to the gentleman Mr. O'CONNOR. It is about time that the same result. from Missouri. the Bureau of the Budget took the ac Mr. MAHON. The gentleman is just Mr. SHORT. How much, though, will tion that it did to relieve the dead tim using this as the mechanics or vehicle the passage of this bill cost the tax ber in the Government service. for raising the pay? . payers of the Nation? Will it not i·un Mr. PACE. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. RAMSPECK. 'That is correct. approximately $600,000,000, almost twice Mr. RAMSPECK. I yield to the gen We are not endorsing any 40-hour week. as much as the appropriation carried in tleman from Georgia. As a matter of fact, the gentleman the Mississippi Flood Control Act of Mr. PACE. The bill recites that time knows, being on the Appropriations Com 1928, which was the largest peacetime in excess of 40 hours shall be at the rate mittee, that prior to this war employees appropriation in the history of this of one and one-half times the basic rate. in Washington worked only 39 hours a country up to that' time? How does the gentleman calculate that week. So we have really raised the num Mr. GALE. The total cost of the bill to amount to only 21.6 percent increase ber of hours 9 hours per week and we which we passed lMt fall was $563,- in pay for a 20-percent increase in work? have given them 21.6 percent more 780,000. ' J : • Mr. RAMSPECK. Because the bill money, which is just straight time. That Mr. SHORT. But 100,000 more em provides that the work year shall be is all we are doing. ployees have been added since the cal based on 360 days. The wage-and-hour Mr. HOBBS. Will the gentleman culation that you carried in the measure. law provided that the employer~ figure yield? The SPEAKER pro tempore. The on a 2,080-hour year or a 260-day year. Mr. RAMSPECK. I yield to the gen time of the gentleman has expired. There are many people who wanted to tleman from Alabama. Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, change this to a 260-day year, which Mr. HOBBS. As I understand it, the I yield myself 5 minutes. would have given the employees a 30- single and sole purpose of this bill is to Mr. Speaker, this measure extends an percent increase instead of 21.6, but the raise the compensation of Government act passed by Congress last summer and committee used the divisor of 360 which employees; is that right? that was extended temporarily until gives an increase of 21.6 percent over Mr. RAMSPECK. That is correct. April 30, 1943. That act was put into the basic pay. Mr. HOBBS. The statement in here effect for two main reasons: Employees' Mr. WHITTINGTON. Will the gen that has been referred to by the gentle hours of work were ~ o be extended to 48 tleman yield? man from Texas [Mr. MAHON] is exactly hours per week instead of 39 or 40, and Mr. RAMSPECK. I yield to the gen the same as the law now stands? were to be paid for the additional time, tleman from Mississippi. Mr. RAMSPECK. That is correct. and the other reason was because of in Mr. WffiTTINGTON. As I under Mr. HOBBS. So that that is in here creased cost of living. It was also said stand, this bill is intended to remain in merely for the purpose of furnishing a that the Government could not get com effect only during the war? predicate or a basis upon which the raise petent help in many places for the sal Mr. RAMSPECK. It is limited to June is to operate? aries paid, because of competition in 30, 1945, or any date earlier that Con Mr. RAMSPECK. That is the only private industry, especially in war indus gress may designate by concurrent reso reason. tries. Another reason presented was lution. Mr. HOBBS. As the gentleman has that if present employees worked longer Mr. WHITTINGTON. As I recall, stated, it is not in any sense of the word hours, there could be a reduction in em during the First World War the Con a reaffirming of the Congress in that ployment, or at least a retardation in the gress passed bonus legislation. principle? number of people employed: The legis Mr. RAMSPECK. Yes. Mr. RAMSPECK. That is correct. It lation was intended, in the first instance, Mr. WHITTINGTON. The purpose of has nothing to do with the principle of to assist those in the lower bracket this legislation is to take the place of the 40-hour week. It is simply a method salaries. bonus legislation to provide for addi of arriving at the pay. The gentleman from Missouri has tional compensation during the war? Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of asked about the cost of the legislation Mr. RAMSPECK. That is correct. my time passed last year. The cost as given to Mr. MAHON. I note on page 2 of the Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I me is estimated as $563,730,000. Of bill this language: yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from course that included postal employees Officers and employees to whom this act Minnesota [Mr. GALE]. who worked overtime. With little oppo applies shall be paid overtime compensation Mr. GALE. Mr. Speaker, the chair sition, you recently supported a blanket for work in excess of 40 hours in any admin man of the committee has very ably ex bonus increase of $300 each to postal em istrative week at the rate of one and one plained the provisions of this bill. It ployees. That bill was sponsored by the half times their basic rate of compensation. is not going to solve the total civil serv Committee on Post Offices and Post I am one of those who feels that the ice problem. That problem is some Roads. Now, Mr. Speaker, it might be 40-hour week and time and a half for thing that is going to take a long time, well to observe right here that we now over 40 hours has no place in wartime. it is going to take a lot of work and have approximately 2,800,000 on the civil Is there some way whereby we can raise it will take quite a broad, far-reaching pay roll in the executive departments of 1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD_;_HOUSE 2915 the Government. A great share, as has I will say to the gentleman from Mis · Mr. CRAWFORD. What· is the total been pointed out, are in the Departments souri, Mr. W. H. McReynolds, who ap amount allowed a Member of Congress of War and Navy. It · should also be peared before our committee represent for clerical help? stated that the cost of civil employees' ing the administration, said he favored Mr. REES of Kansas. The total pay roll last year, without the increase in the Mead bill that provides for time and amount allowed for clerical help is $6,500, December, was $4,395,937,637. So, to be a half for overtime, and for some other plus 15 percent under this measure. fa.ir to all parties concerned-the over increases not included here. Mr. CRAWFORD. Fifteen percent of all increase would be about 12 percent, . This measure is more or less of a com $6,500? I believe. promise bill from the Committee on Mr. REES of Kansas. The gentleman Mr. Speaker, this particular measure Civil Service. is correct. before us today extends the present law Mr. SHORT. The reason I asked that Mr. CASE. Mr. Speaker, will the gen until June 1945 with amendments that question is that the President has just tleman yield? have been called to your attention and vetoed the Bankhead bill that would give Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield to the according to figures presented to the the farmers something near parity prices, distinguished gentleman from South committee will increase the present cost because he said it was dangerous and Dakota. approximately $4,000,000. There will, of inflationary. I wondered if this bill 'Mr. CASE. If the bill had come in course, be the additional cost accrued by . could not also be branded as dangerous under a rule, it would have been possible reason of increased employn~nt . . One and inflationary. for Members to offer amendments, would of the principal changes provided .by this Mr. REES of Kansas. I am not put it not? - · bill is that where increases were 10 per ting any brand on it, but I disagree with Mr. REES of Kansas. That is correct. cent in certain cases, they would be 15 the President when he says the bill he There is a lot of merit to what the gen percent under the terms of this bill. vetoed is inflationary. I do not believe tleman says. If you want to send it back So, in substance, this bill extends the these items of legislation should be con to the committee and let the committee present "law already passed by Congress sidered together. Each piece of legis try again, well and good. It will be all that provided for the increase in pay al lation ought to be considered on its own right with me. If you do not want this t:eady discussed, .adds the approximate , merits. If you do not Eke this legisla legislation, vote it down. If you do send $4,000,000. As I have said, it was ex tion; vote it down. There is nothing 1 it back, the-committee will try, I feel pected and hoped the increased cost to · complicated· about it at all. ·· This is ·not sure, to meet-the will of·the majority of each employee would be offset to. quite· a pers0-nal matter with me. . · I am just 1 this House. -. ' an extent by the increased houi·s of trying tp explain it, as I understand it. Mr. JENN~NGS. Mr. Speaker, will the work. It would, of course, be difficult to If there are further questions anyone gentleman yield? estimate the amount of employment that wishes to ask briefly, I shall try to answer Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield to the· :.. has thus been saved. them. gentleman from Tennessee: . ..Mr. TARVER.. Mr. Speaker, will the Mr. KEEFE. Mr. Speaker, will the Mr: JENNINGS. Does the provision gentleman yi.eld? ' gentleman yield? witli respect to the employees of a· Mr. REES of Ka~sas. I yield to the Mr. REES of -Kansas. I shall be glad Member of Congress mean that he can distinguished gentleman from Georgia. to yield to the gentleman from Wiscon employ as many as he sees fit to? Mr. TARVER. If we do not pass this sin, a very able member .of the Committee Mr. REES of Kansas. It means that bill, the Government of the United on Appropriations of the House. the Member of Congress can employ just States will be saved. $567,000,000 next Mr. KEEFE. Is there any reason why as many employees as he wants to, and year; is not that true? this legislation could not come before he can pay one of them not more than ·' Mr. REES of Kans:;ts. If you do not the House in the regular -way, under a ${500 plus 15 percent if he wants to do pass any bill extending the present tem rule, when we would have sufficient time it. He may if he wants to. If he does porary increase in ~he salaries of the to discuss the merits of the· legtslation; not want to, he does not have to. employees of this Government, of course, rather than to come here under a sus Mr. JENNINGS. -If we vote down this you save the money if you are able to· se pension, where we are limited to only 40· bil( we in effect reduce the pay of the cure the same amount of service now minutes of debate on a bill that involves Government employees from what they being rendered by Government workers. nearly $600,000,000? are now getting? If you do not put any bill through at all, Mr. REES of Kansas. I think it would Mr. REES of Kansas. Yes, after April you will pay them what they were get have been much better for this bill to 30. Unless the Congress takes some ac ting before the temporary legislation come before the House under a rule, so tion regarding the matter. was passed sometime last summer, and the whole problem could be discussed, but The SPEAKER. The time of the gen which was extended in December until as a matter of fairness, the gentleman tleman from Kansas has expired. April 30. You do just what you think is knows that you are passing upon the Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I right and proper about this matter. question of whether or not you want to yield myself 1 additional minute. The original bill H. R. 1860 that came continue the increases already granted. Mr. WALTER. Mr. Speaker, will the before us provides for a great deal more That is the main part of this bill. If you gentleman yield? than the $4,000,000 I mentioned. That do not want to go on with the increases Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield. bill increased salaries and wages $219,- you have already allowed Government Mr. WALTER. Can the gentleman tell 310,000 above the $567,000,000, because employees, then vote down this bill and me what the additional cost would be that is the cost that was in the bill pro go back to where you were and strike out· if the $5,000 limitation were removed? viding for practically time and a half legislation that was supported almost Mr. REES of Kansas. It would be overtime in place of time and one unanimously a few months ago; if that is $15,660,000, approximately, I believe. eighth, as there is in this bill. This pays what you want to do. Mr. WOODRUFF of Michigan. Mr. a little more than straight time for over Speaker, will the gentleman yield? time. Of course, this bill does not satisfy Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield. Mr. SHORT. Mr. Speaker, will the everyone. As I have said, it is a com Mr. WOODRUFF of Michigan. Will gentleman yield? promise measure. I feel sure if the House the gentleman inform me what em Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield to the does not sustain the motion before the ployees are included in this bill? Are distinguished gentleman from Missouri. House, the committee try to meet, as far any includ_ed outside of the city of Wash Mr. SHORT. Does this bill have the as it can, with the will of this body. At ington? backing of the administration? least, that is my position. Mr. REES of Kansas. Yes; employees Mr. REES of Kansas. I do not know Mr. CRAWFORD. Mr. Spealcer, will throughout the country are included; whether the administration supports it the gentleman yield? certainly. or not. I did not consult the adminis Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield to the Mr. WOODRUFF of Michigan. tration whether or not it is supporting it. gentleman from Michigan. Through all the departments? 2916 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 Mr. REES of Kansas. Certainly; all in under suspension of the rules, no I believe you will be impressed by the the Government employees except those amendment. can be made at any time. statements contained in the following in the Post Office Department. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The letters and telegrams which I have re Mr. WHITTINGTON. Mr. Speaker, gentleman is correct. ceived. They read as follows: will the gentleman yield? Mr. CLASON. Mr. Speaker, I feel AMERICAN FEDERATION OF Mr. REES of Kansas. I yield to the this bill ought to be passed; and if I GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, gentleman from Mississippi. had my way, I would provide for a more SPRINGFIELD ARMORY LODGE, No. 431, Mr. WIDTTINGTON. Is it not true generous treatment of some of the em SpringfieLd, Mass., April 1, 1943. that the bill that was passed in Decem ployees of the United States Govern Hon. CHARLES R. CLASON, ber, estimated to cost $563,000,000, pro Member United States Congress, ment. In other words, this bill provides New House Office Building, vided for an increase of 10 percent for for the payment of overtime pay on the Washington, D. C. the postal employees, including rural basis that every man is working 360 days DEAR REPRESENTATIVE: We were very much carriers and postmasters, and that that in a year, whereas we know that the concnned and disappointed by the action amount would have to be deducted, National Labor· Relations Board, and I taken by the House Civil Service Commit whatever it is, from this bill in arriving think every private employer, fixes over tee in reporting out H. R. 1860, the overtime at the cost of the increase in this bill? time on the basis of a 5-day week, 52 pay bill, in leaving the.divisor at one three Mr. REES of Kansas. I believe the weeks in the year, or 260 days. I would hundred-and-sixtieth, instead of at one two gentleman is correct in that; and I ap hundred-and-sixtieth as the basis for the like to have seen the bill come in here payment for overtime. preciate the gentleman's observation. as originally printed, providing that the No doubt you are aware, from our conver That would make some reduction in the base pay for 1 day should be considered sations and our correspondence with you on figure of $560,000,000. It would prob one two-hundred-and-sixtieth instead of this subject of the serious manner in which ably be offset by increased employment one three-hundred-and-sixtieth of the it will affect the many per annum employees in Government since that figure was an respective per annum salaries. Also, I here at the armory. nounced, but the gentleman from Mis May we ask that when this bill reaches the would like to bring out some of the in fioor an amendment be offered for considera sissippi is right in his statement. equities which occur in a btll of this Mr. Speaker, as I have said, this legis tion by the House, "That employees in man kind. I think that this committee has ufacturing establishments of the Army and lation may be regarded as sort of com done well, and I cannot help feeling that Navy Departments of the field service be paid promise legislation on the subject.., I they have given a lot of time and consid overtime on the one two-hundred-and-six think it would have been better to have eration to it. However, you take a big tieth basis"? given it further discussion. I have di manufacturing plant of the United States In our many conversations with the com vided the amount of time allotted to me Government, and you will find that the manding officer here in regard to securing as far as I could, and have tried to tell per diem employees are paid full time more money for these employees to meet the you what the measure contains. cost of living, he readily agreed with us that and a half. this provision would help to a very great Mr. Speaker, the whole problem of civil Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Speaker, will the extent in correcting the wage situation of service in our Government has become a gentleman yield? the employees affected. tremendous one. Think of it, we now Mr. CLASON. No; I cannot yield. For We await with interest the final action have almost 3,000,000 civil employees on this measure and we sincerely hope that in Government. That is 3 times as instance, this paragraph in a letter which action favorable to the employees here and many as the peak in World War No. 1. I have received will explain the situation: throughout similar establishments in the The number is still on the increase. Of The undersigned has been employed in a field service will be the result. course, it is understood that large num clerical and administrative capacity for 27 Very respectfully yours, years at the Springfield Armory, at present JEROME F. DUNN, Secretary. bers of employees are necessary to do being the civilian chief over approximately the work required in carrying on the 250 employees, of whom 100 are per annum. war effort. But, Mr. Speaker, for a long I personally feel that these 100 per annum SPRINGFIELD, MASS., April 2, 1943. time I have insisted that if we would employees are entitled to the same overtime Congressman CHARLES R. CLASON, really strip for action as it were, and cut pay rates as the other 150 per diem employees New House Office Building, under my jurisdiction. Washington, D. C. out a lot of red tape, a lot of duplication Subject: Overtime pay bill, H. R. 1860. of effort, and quit all activity not abso In other words, you find that of a MY DEAR MR. CLASON: In reference to over lutely required for the prosecution of the group of 250 under this bill, 100 will time-pay bill, H. R. 1860, it is recommended war, and make sure no one is kept on the only receive overtime on a basis that they that you submit and support an amendment job except he is qualified and interested are working 360 days a year, while the tc. the effect that- in getting the job done. We could, in "Employees in manufacturing establish other 150 are being paid overtime on the ments of War and Navy Departments of the my judgment, get along and do the work, basis of working 260 days a year. All 250 field service be paid overtime on the so with 25 or 30 percent less employees. I will be working side by side. This in called one two-hundred-sixtieth basis." know the great percentage of our em equity creates discord. It is desired that you support the 260 di ployees are loyal and are trying to do I am glad to see that the committee visor instead of the 360 divisor, for overtime their part, but we still have some whose has included section 7, which will permit pay, as the 260 basis conforms to the uniform services could be dispensed with, with the Civil Service Commission to correct method of figuring overtime for per diem field out loss to the Government. employees of War and Navy Departments and many inequities which now exist between for the majority of industrial establishments The SPEAKER. The time of the gen per annum salaries and per diem wages engaged on war-production work. All other tleman from Kansas has again expired. paid for similar types of work. field per annum employees in the War and Mr. REES of Kansas. M'T. Speaker, I For instance, some of the skilled per Navy Departments should be placed on at yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from sonnel with or without technical degrees, least the same basis as the others mentioned. Massachusetts [Mr. CLAsoN]. are not receiving as much money in the All field employees must bear the same in Mr. CLASON. Mr. Speaker, I ask creased cost of living, taxes, and other de Government plants, as some of the men ductions as employees in private industry, unanimous consent to extend my re working under them, receiving orders and, therefore, their pay for overtime should marks in the REcORD and include certain from them, and actually doing work be figured on the same basis as private in letters and telegrams that I have received carrying out the engineers' orders. Such dustry, especially in view of the fact that the from constituents. inequities ought to be corrected at this basic pay of the Government employees is also The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there time. In private establishments, these generally lower than private industry for objection? men who are in administrative positions similar work. The undersigned has been employed in a There was no objection. are receiving much greater pay than clerical and administrative capacity for 27 Mr. CLASON. Mr. Speaker, I pro they are from the United States Govern years at Springfield Armory, Springfield, pound a parliamentary inquiry in order ment. I hope that this bill will be im Mass., at present being the civilian chief over to have it in the RECORD. As the situa proved in conference in fairness to Gov approximately 250 employees, of which 100 tion now stands, this bill being brought ernment employees. are per annum, of clerical and storekeeping 1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2917 grades. I personally feel that these 100 per It is my suggestion that an amendment be raise on $2,900 equals $435; overtime on $2,900 annum employees are entitled to the same proposed whereby per diem and per annum equals $628.16; result, the total gain for 52 overtime pay rates as the other 150 per die~ employees can be placed on an equal footing days' work is only $193 .16. What has become warehousing employees under my jurisdic and receive the same rate of overthne pay. of the so-called overtime compensation? We tion. It is believed especially that there Very truly yours, protest having to work 52 8-hour days for a should be no discrimination in overtime pay OWEN RUHE. difference of less than $200 and the classing rate basis between per diem and per annum of extra pay for extra hours work as a raise. field employees of War and Navy Departments. SPRINGFIELD, MAss., April 2, 1943. The bill already discriminates against per Yours very truly, DEAR REPRESENTATIVE CLASON: I have learned annum employees in regards computing daily EARLL. BUDDINGTON, through my union representative at the and hourly rate of pay against wage-earning Administrative Officer, CAF-11 Springfield Armory, where I work, that the Government employees, and this section 2 (Civili an), Chief of Stores Division. bill providing overtime at the rate of 260 versus section 3 is added discrimination and days a year, namely, bill H. R. 1860, has been a gross inequity. GEORGE LANGE, SPRINGFIELD, MASS., April 2, 1943. rejected by the House Civil service Com mittee. Secretary, Local No. 5, International Han. CHARLES R. CLASON, Federation of Technical Engineers', Member, United States Congress, In the armory there are per annum workers Architects', and Draftsmen's Unions. New House Office Building, and per diem employees; and when one group Washington, D. C. gets a better weekly salary than the other for the same amount and the same efficiency Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I DEAR REPRESENTATIVE: I Understand that yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from the overtime bill for civil service per annum of work, then there is apt to be some sort of employees, H. R. 1860, has not been passed friction. I am a per annum employee and Nebraska [Mr. CURTIS]. and that the bill as it now reads is on the receive $1,260 a year plus overtime. In all, Mr. CURTIS. Mr. Speaker, I decline basis of one three-hundred-and-sixtieth in my pay is around $28 per week, not counting to yield. stead of one tW!O-hundred-and-sixtieth for the many deductions for bondiS, Victory tax, This measure, H. R. 1860, is a bill to overtime payment. and pension retirement. I have a good attendance record and am a raise the pay of practically every Gov In view of the fact that the per-annum em conscientious worker. Many employees are ernment employee. It will cost the folks ployees here at Springfield Armory, and in leaving, sad to say, because of the poor back home in the neighborhood of $600,- other manufacturing plants of the United wages, in favor of jobs in private industries. 000,000 a year. It is inflationary to the States work the same number of hours, under I have often been tempted to follow their utmost. I do not believe that we will the same conditions, and side by side with example, but then decide to remain working be doing an injustice to any Government the per-diem employees and have the same for the United States Government, the best employee if we refuse to suspend the rising costs of living, with higher taxes and in the world. bond deductions to meet, it seems only rea All that I ask is that the bill be considered rules and vote this bill down. It can still sonable that they be paid overtime on the more fully, because it is not entirely fair that come up in the regular way under a rule. same basis for all work over 5 days and not, private industries pay more than the Gov We will then have ample time to discuss as at present on a 7-day-week basis. ernment for the same amount of work. En.;; it and it can be amended. This bill, in May I ask that when this bill reaches the tering wages at the armory are more than calling for an expenditure in excess of fioor an amendment be proposed for consid moderate, but succeeding raises are very one-half billion dollars, calls for more eration "that employees in manufacturing slow. money than was included in the annual establishments of the Army and Navy De I have cut down my weekly luxury ex partments of the field service be paid overtime budget of this Government for any penses because of the many warnings of the single year prior to the twentieth cen on· the b~sis of one two-hundred-and-sixti dangers of inflation, but prices of ordin~ry eth"? commodities continue to rise, and that leavea tury. It involves a raise in pay for the There is need of a final and just decision very little pin money. I'd like to keep my Government employees, which raise that would correct the inequalities apparent head above water and to put some aside for alone amounts to twice the amount that in the pay of this group of employees and post-war expenses when jobs will not be so we usually appropriate a year for parity lessen the uncertainties under which they plentiful. payments for farmers, which payments work. The ordinary American today is well of! tn I am certain that this measure will result comparison with the unfortunate people in benefit over 30,000,000 people. Yet we in fairness to all concerned. other countries, but our standard of living are called upon to dispose of this bill in Very respectfully yours, has always been higher, even though it has 40 minutes' debate. ANNA KALLIN. been curtailed since Pearl Harbor. Also, our I happened to be present on the :floor boys at the fronts today are paid less in sal of this House last December when we SPRINGFIELD, MASS., April 2, 1943. ary. but they have not room and board, and passed the temporary measure to raise Hon. CHARLES R. CLASON, their clothes are furnished them. If the the pay of Government employees until Member United States Congress, morale of the folks at home is important to April 30. At that time, the House was New House Office Building, them, then it should be important to the Congress. told that, if we would not object to that Washington, D. C. bill, ample time would be given for the SIR: Over 40 years ago I fought in the Phil The workers at the armory know that you ippine Insurrection because I believed in the have done much for Springfield in the past. House of Representatives to work out a American ideals--everyone is created equal I trust that you will consider the matter tnore permanent measure. When the and is entitled to equal treatment. However, more fully and do what you possibly can committee today asks us to suspend the these ideals are sometimes overlooked and I when this wage bill comes up again before rules and vote for this gigantic ex do not believe anyone can truthfully say that the House Civil Service Committee; also, the penditure without a chance to o:tier an everyone is now being treated equally. opponents of the bill might be won over if amendment, that arrangement of last This is forcibly brought to attention by a they could see our side of the situation. My friends and family are plugging for you December is being violated. Why is it bill which is soon to come before the House, that the proponents of this bill do not bill H. R. 1860. The original bill stated that and for H. R. 1860 and hope it will be passed. overtime pay was to be granted per annum The armory has an E award, and we all want the provisions of this bill studied? employees at the rate of one two hundred want to keep up production, but it is a Let me call your attention to section 6 chore if morale is low. of this bill. It reads as follows: and sixtieth rather than one three hundred Yours truly, and sixtieth, which it is at the present time. (Miss) JANE P. SIMMONS. SEc. 6. The provisions of this act shall not This would have placed per annum employees operate to prevent payment for overtime serv on the same basis as per diem employees. ices in accordance with any of the following I believe you are cognizant with the situa NEWPORT, R. I., April 4, 1943. statutes: Act of February 13, 1911, as tion which exists at present in Government CHARLES R. CLASON, amended (U.S. C., title 19, sees. 261 and 267); establishments. Per annum employees work House Office Building, act of July 24, 1919 (41 Stat. 241; U.S. C., title side by side with per diem employees. They Washington, D . C.: 7, sec. 394); act of June 17, 1930, as amended do the same type of work, but they do not Protest gross inequity as H. R. 1860 pro (U. S. C., title 19, sees 1450, 1451, and 1452) i receive the same recognition or recompense vides section 2 of bill provides overtime com act of March 2, 1931 (46 Stat. 1467; U.S. C., for their services. The per diem employee pensation for work in excess of 40 hours. title 8, sees. 109a and 109b); act of May 27, receives overtime pay at the rate of one two Section 3 provides 15 percent increase in pay 1936, as amended (52 Stat. 345; U.S. C., title hundred and sixtieth, whereas the per annum for employees not required to work over 40 46, sec. 382b); act of March 23, 1941 (Public employee is paid at the rate of one three hun hours. This is rank discrimination. Per Law No. 20, 77th Cong.): Provided, That the dred and sixtieth. Surely, Mr. CLAsoN, you annum technical employees are again penal overtime services covered by such payment will agree with me that this is not an equi ized by having to prosecute necessary war shall not also form a basis for overtime com table situat ion. work over 4Q hours per week; 1. e., 15 percent pensation under this act. 2918 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE . APRIL 5 There is not a lawyer in the House, if The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there What puzzles me more every day is given the full 40 minutes allowed for de objection? that the only time anyone seems to worry bate, who can explain section 6 in that There was no objection. about inflation is when the farmer is in amount of time, because it is too com Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. I just volved. Here we are today, expected to plicated. We in this House do not know want to express my appreciation to the give approval to a bill that will give $435 the full implications of this bill before us. committee for bringing out a bill that a year bonuses to people who are now re I want to read you lines 9 to 12, inclu gives us ample time, 20 minutes on a side, ceiving $3,000 to $5,000 a year. Yet we sive, on page 2: which, divided up to each one of us, gives are told that we will be contributing Officers and employees to whom this act us 6 seconds each in order to tell our toward "an inflationary tornado" if we applies shall be paid overtime compensation opinion of the bill that involves an ex give the farmer less than a $100 per cap for work in excess of 40 hours in any admin penditure of $567,000,000. I think the ita subsidy. You may be interested in istrative workweek at a rate of one and one committee should be complimented, and knowing that 78 percent of the farmers half times their basic rates of compensation. I think this is a fine way to make the receive subsidies of less than $40 and That sounds like we are allowing time Seventy-eighth Congress go down in his that 94 percent of them receive subsidies and a half overtime for work in excess tory as a great Congress, as many of you of less than $100. We are asked to pro of 40 hours a week. The proponents of said it would do when you came here. I vide $567,000,000 in additional salaries this bill say that it does not mean that would like to know, first, whether this for around two and one-half million peo at all. What does it mean? Why can is an administrative measure; secondly, ple when the Bankhead bill would pro not we have this measure fully discussed why we have to have such a bill come in vide much less for over 6,000,000 people. and brought in here under a procedure here under a gag rule. I do not wish to defend or criticize the whereby amendments might be offered? Third, I would like to know who is Bankhead bill here today. I would, how There are many people in the United fooling who or whom, whichever is cor ever, like to be able to answer a few States who do not feel that a 40-hour rect? questions. week has any place in a wartime econ Mr. RAMSPECK. Will the gentleman First. If this $567,000,000 appropria omy. They believe the commandment yield to me? tion with up to $435 extra for two and found in Holy Writ, "Six days shalt thou Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. I do not one-half million people will not cause in have time. I only have 2 minutes. I or flation, why will a lesser amount cause labor." inflation if it is decided . to give it to This bill raises the pay of almost every you or anybody else may have a man or girl in our office receiving $3,900, and we 6,000,000 people? Government employee. This raise in Second. If it is desirable to distribute pay will have to be financed with bor are going around and saying, "Now, we are going to give you a bonus check for up to $435 per capita to thousands on rowed money-money that must be paid the Government pay roll, who are obtain back by the men in the armed services, $435 for the year. Even though it is our great grandchildren's money we are go ing $3,000 to $5,000 a year so they can their wives and children, the small busi meet the advanced cost of living, how nessmen, farmers, clerks, college profes ing to give it to you and then we are going to come in next week and say we do you .expect people living on $15 to $20 sors, and others back home. By making per month total income, as a pension, to Government service more attractive, we cannot send a check to your old man though for $100 for soil conservation or exist during these times. Since there are making it ever harder for small is a shortage of manpower, we should businessmen, professional men, and parity." Fifty percent of them are liv ing in houses without electric lights and surely take the shackles off from this farmers to hire sufficient help so they group and allow them to work for the can stay in business. only 1 out of 10 . with modern conven iences, but we cannot send him a check duration without jeopardizing their pen I am not opposed to some increase in because as soon as we do we are going sion status. wages in some particular types of Gov to have some very vicious "inflation" all Third. If it is necessary to give $435 a ernment work where the situation jus over the country. We will be doing a year bonus to people who are receiving tifies it. This bill takes them all in. I lot of harm by giving the $100 to your from $3,000 to $5,000 a year in order that think it should be debated. There is a father, but we will give you $435. I they can meet the increased cost of liv fundamental policy at stake. If we say once more that we should have at ing, how do you think that 224,000 chil· raise the pay of all civil-service employ least 1 day in which to discuss this legis dren in foster homes in this country are ees in times of prosperity, should we lation; $567,000,000 is a lot of money in going to be provided for with this in then reduce their pay in times of depres anybody's language. I will not support creased cost of living? sion and adversity? When farmers have any measure that gives $180 increase to Fourth. If it is necessary, under the depressed prices and businessmen go a $1,200 employee and $435 increase to guise of increased cost of living, to give bankrupt and millions walk the streets a $2,900 or $3,900 or a $5,000 employee. a bonus of up to $435 to people receiv jobless, the civil-service workers usually Mr. Speaker, this amendment to the ing from $3,000 to $5,000 a year, how retain their jobs at a wage which at that Civil Service Act merits an appraisal in do you expect that 27,000,000 white time is very good. He receives certain regard to its effect upon inflation. First collar workers to meet this increased cost benefits in the way of retirement and of all, I want to state that I am in favor of living. Many of this group have not what we commonly speak of as security. of fair salary increases to the lower in had any increase in salary and they are To what extent he should be raised when come groups. The postal employees had called upon to face the increase in the other prices are high as they are now is not received a raise in 18 years and were cost of living the same as anyone else. a matter that demands more than 40 entitled to a salary raise in view of the And are not many of these white collar minutes' debate on the part of this Con increased cost of living due to the war. people receiving only from $800 to $1,200 gress. This bill today is altogether different as per year? I shall vote against suspending the up to $435 yearly bonuses are being given In my opinion, it is wrong legislative rules so that this bill may be brought up to people receiving $3,000 to $5,000 a year. procedure to bring in a bill which in in the regular way and subject to The postal bill has not been signed as yet. volves $567,000,000 and only have 20 min amendment. In yesterday's New York Times, I read utes on each side for discussion. If The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time an article, the heading of which was equally divided this would be less than 6 of the gentleman from Nebraska has "War on inflation reaches a crisis." I seconds per Member while we are ap expired. thought it was in reference to this bill priating $567,000,000 for future genera Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I we have under consideration. However, tions to pay. yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from the subheading stated that what Con The last tax bill which was passed Wisconsin [Mr. MURRAY]. gress does to farm prices is the deciding reached down and taxed the nipple on Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. Mr. factor. Above the article is a short chart the baby's bottle and put a $5 stamp on Speaker, I ask unanimous consent tore showing the cost of living in World War every old car in the country regardless vise and extend my remarks in the REc No. 1 in comparison to that in World of its value and use. It is proposed to ORD. War No.2. present us with a $16,000,000,000 tax bill, :1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2919 which may place added taxes on people of the last Congress that it was merely They are being regulated; in many cases less able to pay. We should go a little a temporary measure and that we were their jobs are being held as unessential further and at least take time enough going to have a real bill here before the ·and they will soon be in the armed forces to .find out all the facts in connection 30th of April, after proper hearings were or defense work. The farmers' wives with the proposed legislation. held. I have seen no hearings printed have to take their butter to town and get The people on the Federal pay roll who in connection with this bill. If they are little red rationing stamps for it, take come into the lower brackets are entitled printed, I have not had an opportunity the stamps to one of these 0. P. A. offi to a greater percentage of the money to study them or even to read them. I cials, and get them canceled in order which is being provided, and the people think the thing to do is to say . to this to sell another pound-that is a rule-a who are in the higher income brackets committee, "We are going to vote down -law; and here we stand, Representatives should not be provided the larger in your motion. You go. to the Committee of the people, because we have some creases. on Rules and ask for a rule and bring fantastic, good looking, or perhaps effi There are many other angles in con this bill out here so that we will have cient employees-we are more interested nection with this bill which should be proper opportunity to debate it, and we in them than our own people. Some of considered more fully, among . which is will pass it and make it a law before them over in the departments call them -the provision that gives the chairman of the 30th of April." selves doctors of philosophy, economists, a committee complete control of the Mr. Cox. Will the gentleman yield? experts, but they do not register any too funds provided for the committee em- Mr. KEEFE. Yes; I yield. well down in little Dixie, where they are ployees. . . · Mr. COX. I agree with the gentleman sent to administer laws by orders and The administration evidently seems to that the proposition of passing this bill directives at a much greater salary than feel that 40 minutes is enough to discuss under suspension of the· rules is pre the president of the bank or the sheriff a $567,000,000 appropriation, and brings posterous. Certainly it should be of the county draws. I want you to this bill in here under a gag rule. Tinie brought here under a rule where the know that. All I am trying to do is to is not so limited around here, that proper Members will have an opportunity to kill this bill. This incr~ase in salary discussion cannot be !:leld on bills of such amend it. ·will pay the interest on $15,000,000,000 importance. This bill is not in keeping Mr. KEEFE. The suggestion has been ·worth of bonds every year. with the promises made in the last cam made that if this bill were brought out There are no people on earth entitled paign nor in keeping with the wishes of under a rule it would cost more money, to more consideration than the people the American people at this time. because it might be amended. Do not in Oklahoma, most all of whom started This bill gives the employee receiving the Members of this House have the from scratch. Their pioneer fathers and $1,200 per year an increase of $180· per right to amend a piece of legislation if mothers could take it, or they would not year. It gives the people now getting they so desire? be citizens of Oklahoma today-only the $4,000 to $5,000 salary a $435-per-year The SPEAKER pro tempore. The time true in heart survived, those soft and increase, or bonus. This is not common of the gentleman from Wisconsin has looking for a gravy train passed on to sense, nor is it common justice and expired. other lands. My position upon this bill, ·should not prevail. I shall not support Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I as well as many other bills that have such unfair legislation. It 'is submitted yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from been before Congress, may not be reg under the guise of increased cost of liv Oklahoma [Mr. STEWART]. ular or appreciated, but this shall not be ing, when one has the same increase in Mr. STEWART. Mr. Speaker, I ask my last time to voice my opposition to cost of living as does the other. unanimous consent to proceed for 5 addi acts of Congress that I am convinced· are While the last civil-service bill gave tional minutes. not for the best interest of our country. a pension to the Members of Congress, The SPEAKER pro tempore. The This $6,000,000 annual salary increase this one shows improvement. This gives Chair cannot recognize the gentleman should be put to our war effort. Forget it to his staff. This shows progress. for that purpose. The time is fixed. 40 hours a week and time and a half It is regrettable that the new Members, The gentleman from Georgia. [Mr. RAMS· for overtime, at least until we have won direct from the people, had but 2 minutes PECK] and the gentleman from Kansas this war and the peace. The first agri of the 40 minutes time to discuss this bill [Mr. REESJ have control of the time. culture set-ups in my district were po-. that appropriates $567,000,000. Mr. STEWART. I want to thank the litical; now those self-same jobs are civil The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan [Mr. RABAUT] service drawing an increase of 21.6 per time of the gentleman from Wisconsin when I asked unanimous consent for ad cent in the Farm Security Administra has expired. ditional time, for his courteous treat tion; the county administrator at first Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I ment in refusing and may I say I will draw $2,400 a year, now $2,980 a year; yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from try to even the score with him sometime the assistant administrator, $1,740 a year; Wisconsin [Mr. KEEFE]. when it just takes one objection. now $1,940; and that is not all the em Mr. KEEFE. Mr. Speaker, I cannot Mr. RABAUT. Will the gentleman ployees in the county F. S. A. offices, not support this legislation nor can I vote yield? withstanding one person could do the to suspend the rules. By making that Mr. STEWART. No; I do 'not yield. I work; yet an increase in pay to these statement I am not opposed to proper want to thank the Republican side, employees while those holding private pay increases for Federal employees, but especially the gentleman from Kansas jobs are being dropped from their jobs so long as I remain in Congress I do not [Mr. REES] who has control of the time daily, due to general liquidation of small intend to vote to suspend the rules and of the minority, for giving me time to businesses. pass, with 40 minutes of debate, a bill speak for 3 short minutes against this The SPEAKER pro tempore. The that will cost the taxpayers of this Na bill which appropriates an increase in time of the gentleman from Oklahoma tion upward of $600,000,000. salaries of $6,000,000 in round numbers, has expired. This bill could be brought to the that has the stench and smell of the Mr. RAMSPECK. Mr. Speaker, I yield Committee on Rules of this House, and former Congressional Re.tirement Act, 2 minutes to the gentleman from a rule could be granted, and they could now repealed. Georgia [Mr. TARVER]. have brought the bill upon the floor of I cannot support this measure with our Mr. TARVER. Mr. Speaker, I agree this House before the end of this week. boys working for $22 a month net after with the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Mr. RAMSPECK. Will the gentle allotment on a 24-hour shift. If you KEEFE] that the procedure under which man yield? ·made the mistake of increasing salaries this bill of tremendous importance is be Mr. KEEFE. I do not yield. I only to or 15 percent, in some cases 21.6 per ing considered is very unwise in charac have 2 minutes. The gentleman has cent-twice during the Seventy-seventh ter. Five hundreo and sixty-seven mil· control of 20 minutes. I refuse to yield. Congress, now . is the time to make lion dollars for each year until June 30, The House could then have an oppor amends; please do not make such a mis 1945, according to the statement of our tunity to go into this question. take over again now. Give the people colleague the gentleman from Georgia We were told when this temporary back home a little consideration-store [Mr. RAMPSECK] himself, are involved measure was passed in the closing hours and bank employees and farm labor. here. Thus merrily we go along with 2920 . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL . 5 American boys on the battle fronts, scat It is incumbent on governments to re fixed-salary employees of our Govern tered all over the world, dying at $50 a move the fear of want for our disabled ment is to be extended, this bill should month, increasing the salary of every veterans, our elders, and all other people provide for an even larger increase than body connected with the administration who are unable to work. Many of my that which it now contains. of the affairs of the Federal Government comrades and many old folks are suffer ExECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, and safe at home. There may be 2,000,- ing during this emergency period. They BUREAU OF THE BUDGET, 000 in number of them, or there may be are not able and too old to participate Washington, D . C., ApriL 1, 1943. more. It may be essential to somebody's in the high wages being offered today. Hon. RicHARD J. WELCH, political security to vote every few days However, they are forced to face the high House of Representatives. MY DEAR MR. WELcH: In response to your an increase in somebody's salary, but if cost of living. telephone request, I am enclosing a copy of it is essential to mine, I shall let my po I want to remind you at this time the the tabulation of Government employees ac litical security fall by the wayside. It needs for our disabled veterans and the cording to salary grades. We do not have may be that in some cases increases are elders of America. Now is the time to additional copies of table. No. n, which gives justified. This, however, is a wholesale give our elders of America $40 per month the agency-by-agency figures that make up increase without regard to the facts in based on need. A direct Federal pension the first line in table No. Ill. However, if all cases involved and without opportu- . from Washington would be much better you have particular need for this information, nity for adequate consideration. than the system we have today. We it can be prepared for you. could eliminate the red tape and delay. None of this data bas yet been made public, Just a few days ago we voted inad but we are glad to make it available to you. visedly, to my mind, what was an unjus We would not need thousands of inves Very truly yours, tified bonus to the postal employees of tigators and supervisors who are now on F. J. LAWTON, this country, without regard to the sala the Federal welfare pay rolls. Administrative Assistant. ries they are now receiving; and, without I am certain that most of the Members of Congress would be willing to give our discrimination between the underpaid FEDERAL EMPLOYEES CLASSlF!ED ACCORDING TO and the overpaid, men drawing five or elders a reasonable amount based upon SALARIES AS OF OCTOBER 31, 1942 six thousand dollars a year will get that need. Let us eliminate the fear of want bonus. Surely they could have strug in old age by giving our needy elders of The attached tables have been developed from agency answers to question No. 3 of th ~ gled along without it for this period of America some security when they reach Byrd committee questionnaire, which asked emergency. Is nobody going to have the age of 60. for the number of employees in each CAF, P, to sacrifice in this time of trial except Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, I SP, CPC, C-M, and I and S grade and for the the boys at the front? I was only one of yield such time as he may desire to the number of unclassified employees. Agencies four men who opposed it on the roll call, gentleman from California [Mr. WELCH]. that have not submitted this data are as but I am proud of the fact that I was Mr. WELCH. Mr. Speaker, the chair follows: The Department of Agriculture, the one of those four. Members talk as if man and the Committee on the Civil Nationa! Youth Administration, the White the passage of this bill would increase Service should be commended upon the House, the Federal Reserve System, the Pan governmental expenses only three or facility with which they have reported ama Canal for employees located outside the this bill. I regret, however, that it was country, and the field offices of the Employ four million dollars. The fact is that if ment Service, the Work Projects Administra you defeat the bill you will save the not possible for the committee to go far tion, the Comptroller of the Currency, and Government $567,000,000 each year until enough to furnish adequate salaries to the Loan Liquidation Division of the Federal June 30, 1945. What does that amount the thousands and tens of thousands of Deposit Insurance Corporation. These omis to now at a time when our national re loyal and faithful Federal employees sions total 152,240. sources are being strained to the utmost particularly in the lower income salary As of October, 1,141,043 of the 2,523,995 in the effort to defend our cou:.1try in its brackets. · Federal employees for whom data was avail time of greatest peril? It is money we I have a table furnished to me by the able were not classified. This includes 6,058 must borrow. Are we not going to con Bureau of the Budget which classifies dollar-a-year men; 89,059 industrial workers sider this at least under a rule that will 1,381,518 Federal employees according to or other employees paid on an hourly basis permit free discussion; that will permit salary grades, both inside and outside of in the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Bu us to understand the bill? More than Washington, as of October 31, 1942. reau of Printing and Engraving, the Bureau 41 of the Mint, the Government Printing Office, that is involved. There is a great deal More than percent of these employees the Post Office Department (substitute car more in this eight-page bill than simply receive salaries below $1,620 per an riers), the Bureau of Reclamation, and the this question of time and a half for num; more than 55 percent are paid less Bonneville Power Administration; 982,453 em overtime for time above 40 hours; more than $1,800 per annum, and more than ployees in the War and Navy Departments, than the $567,000,000 that the propo 64 percent are paid less than $2,000. most of whom are workers in the navy yards, nents of the bill admit it will cost. It This bill provides an average increase, arsenals, ordnance plants, and the like; and should at least be considered in an or on the basis of overtime pay and not an 63,473 other unclassified employees distrib derly manner, with opportunity for de additional grant, of some 21.6 percent uted throughout the Government. bate and for amendment. on the base pay of these employees. The tables include some part-time em The SPEAKER. The time of the gen I wonder how many Members of the ployees. The major portion of the 44,989 tleman from Georgia has expired. House of Representatives realize what part-time employees reported to the Civil deductions are made from the average Service Commission 1n October 1942, however, Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Speaker, were unclassified and therefore do not distort may I inquire how much time I have Federal employees' salary before he has the result::: of this tabulation. remaining? a net amount with which to meet the The figures on inside District of Columbia The SPEAKER. The gentleman from greatly increased cost of living he now and outside District of Columbia, in table I, Kansas has 1 minute remaining. faces. In the first place, on the basis of are not precisely accurate. A few agencies Mr. REES of Kansas.- Mr. Speaker, I last year's income-tax law, 19 percent reported their employees on a field and de yield such time as he may desire to the must be set aside from his net income partmental basis instead of on an inside and . gentleman from Indiana [Mr. LANDIS]. under $2,000 to meet these payments; outside basis. For this reason, 15,513 field Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask an additional 5 percent is now deducted employees located in Washington are probably unanimous consent to extend my own for the Victory tax; 5 percent is deducted a part of the outside District of Columbia remarks in the RECORD at this point. under the Retirement Act, and every figures, and 7,323 departmental employees The SPEAKER. Without objection, it Federal employee is further expected to located outside Washington are probably permit the deduction of a further 10 per included in the inside District of Columbia is so ordered. figures. There was no objection. cent for the· purchase of Victory War bonds. Thus, by simple arithmetic it ap Some of the agency figures may include SECURITY FOR OUR OLD FOLKS employees on military leave. pears that 19 percent of every Federal The term "executive branch," as used in Mr. LANDIS. Mr. Speaker, when we employees' net income, and 20 percent of tables I, II, and m, covers the agencies that are considering the increase in salaries · his gross income, is obligated before he report to the Civil Service Commission. This due to the increase in the cost of living, has 1 penny with which to meet the classification means that the General Ac we must keep in mind the need of our growing demands upon his salary. counting Office and t!1e Government Printing - disabled veterans and our elders of Thus, if real aid, adequate to meet Office are included in the total for the execu America. the present situation that faces these tive branch. 1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2921 TABLE I.-Federal employees classified according to salary grade inside and outside Washington, and total, Oct. 31, 19421 Number Percent Cumulative total Curimlative percent Salary group Inside Outside Inside Outside Inside Outside Inside Outside District of District-of Total District of District of Total District of District of - Total District of DistrictoJ Total Columbia Colllfilbia Columbia Columbia Columbia Columbia Columbia Columbia $840 and under ______!<9 30,763 30,792 0.01 2. 63 2. 23 29 ·3o, 763 30,792 0.01 2. fi3 2.23 $840 to $1,11)9 ______3 12,490 12,493 1.07 1. 07 .90 32 43, 253 43, 285 . 01 3. 70 3.13 $1,220 to $J,439 ______22, 162 188, 760 :no, 922 10.·36 16.17 15.27 22, 194 232,013 254, 207 10.38 19. 72- 18.40 $1,440 to $1,C.19 ______67,156 255, 336 322,492 31.39 21.87. . 23.34 . 89,350 487,349 576,699 41.77 41.74 41.74 $1,620 to $1,799 ______42, 117 148, 271 190,388 19.69 12.70 13.78 131, 467 635, 620 767,087 61.46 54.44 55.52 $1,800 to $1,999 ______23,575 98,534 122, 109 11.02 8. 44 8.84 155,042 734, 154 889, 196 72.4.8 . 62.88 64.36 $2,000 to $2,599 .• ------19,638 - :86,008 305,646 9.18 24. 50 22.12 174,680 1,.020, 162 1. 194,842 81.66 87.37 86.48 $2,500 to $3,199 ______10,615 75, 513 86, 128 4. 96 6. 47 6. 23 185, 295 1, 095, 675 1, 280,970 86.62 93.83 92.72 $3,200 to $3,7!19 ______~ 8, 775 ~9. 063 47,838 4.10 3. 35 3. 46 194, 070 1,'134; 738 1, 328,808 90.73 97.18 96.18 $.'3,l300 to $4,499 ______6,824 18, l!l5 25,019 3.19 1. 56. 1. 81 200,894 1, 152.933 1, 353,827 93.92 98.74 97.99 $4,5011 to $5,599_. ______6, 316 9,867 16, 18.1 2. 95 . 85 1.17 207,210 1,162, 800 1, 370. 010 96.87 99.58 llfJ. 16 $5,600' to $6,499. ----- ~ -----· ~---- -~-- 3,8PS 3, 208 7,101 1.82 . 27 • 5l 211 , 103 1, 166,008 1, 377, 111 98.69 99.86 99.68 1. 745 1, 037 2, 782 .82 .09 .20 212,848 1,167,-ll45 1, 37\l, 893 99.50 99.95 99.88 834 476 1, 310 .~9 .04 .09 213,682 1,167, 521 ' 1, 381. 203 99.89 99.99 99.97· ~:~~ -iU~b~r~=~======~==·=== 225 90 315 .11 . 01 .02 213,907 1, 167, 611 1, 381, 518 100.00 100.00 10!). 00 . ------______,.. _ 213, 907 611 1, 381, 518 _99. 90 100.02 99 ..97 Total_------_ ~. w7. ------·------...... ----·------·----~ (1) Iurludcs employee~ of executive brnnch of _the Government only. Does not include Library of Congress and Ad~inistratiYe Office of the United States Courts. TABLE III.-Federq,l employees dassified according to salary grades by agencies, Oct. 31, 1942 SUMMARY TABLE Under $1,200 to $1,440 to $1,fi20 to $1,800 to $2,000 to ~2,to0 to $3,000 to 53,800 to. $4,500 and $1,200 Sl,439 U,619 H,799 : . U,999 $2,499 $2,999 *-3,799 !1"4,499 over Total · --·------___ _. --- All agencies in the executive branch except '\\-' ar, !\'avy, and Po~t Office.------a, 297 72 050 83,867 57, 30!1 41,683 57, 533 ao, 241 2(),086 w, 274 23, 147 411,481i War Department. ___ ----·---~-·------______: ...• 453 ' 105: 270 199,084 103, ~23 1\3,096 61,523 32,891 14,380 5, 541 3, 385 579, 44() 1, 484 19, E96 31,1!2 ~3. 589 10,476 18,099 10,696 5, 644 2, 329 856 124, 181 ~~s~Yo~reag:;~~iiiiiilf~-:=:=::::::::-:::::== ; == ~======38,040 13,702 8, 42.5 5, ~57 16,820 168,063 11; 969 - 2, 447 862 296 266,281 210, 918 322,488 190,377 122,075 305,218 85,797 48. !l57 25,006 27, 684 1, 381; 394 ~ibra~o~jt~~~~~:t~-b-~-~. ~~1 _-_-_ ~~ ~ ~-~::: ::::: ====: ======43, 27 ~ 325 342 ~02 147 158 . 103 49 15 27 1, 376 AdministrRfh•e-@tllce of tbe United States Courts.------6 23 14 23 15 2 9 2 4 98 Grand tot~L------~------~---- -4-3-.28-2 -2-11-,2-4-9 -32-2-,E-S-3 -19_0_,5-93--- 12-2-,_2_4_5 -30_5_,3-9-1 -8-5-,9-0-2 -. _4_8_,6-1-5 -2-1\-,0-23- --2-7-,7-15- --1-,3-8-2,-868- Mr. RAMSPECK. Mr. Speaker, may I feel the increased cost of-living as well as simply continuing the present law, and inquire how -much time I have remain the others? It is not fair;- -it is discrim passing this bill without further ado. ing? inatory. Just because your civil:.service The SPEAKER. The time of the .gen The SPEAKER. The ~ entlemar. Jror11 employee may have worked his way up tleman from New York has expired. Georgia has 3 minutes remaining after yea-rs of hard work to a point where Mr. RAMSPECK. Mr. Speaker, I yield . Mr. 'RAMSPECK. Mr. Speaker, I yield he gets more than $5 .000 a year, no mat such time as he may ·desire to the gen 2 of these 3 minutes to the gentleman ter how muc11 time .be puts'in, he is pro- tleman from South Carolina EMr. from New York· [Mr. KLEIN]. , hibited from receiving ariy additional RIVERS]. Mr. KLEIN. Mr. Speaker, I cannot un compensation·1n the form of payment Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Speaker, I ask d~rstand all these objections to this bill. for overtime. ' · unanimous consent to extend my own re After all, these governmental employees, I should like to see this .,. bill amended marks at this point. these civil-service employees, have been so that we could extend it to all of those The SPEAKER. Without objection, it working for us, and 1.vorking mighty employees, but unfortunately under the is so ordered. ·hard. Mr. Speaker, I was ? civil-service present rule, we cannot. There was no objection. employee myself befGre I was elected to Mr. MAHON. Mr. Speaker, will the Mr. RIVERS. Mr. Speaker, the bill Congress, and I know that there is not gentleman yield? under discussion is designed to give over a single group of workers today who work Mr. KLEIN. I yield. time to one of the most faithful groups harder, anc are more loyal, than the ma · Mr. MAHON. Is the gentleman aware of Federal employees. The computation jority of our Government employees. I of the fact that many hundreds, if not of the benefits outlined in this legislation cannot understand why, with the in thousands, of civil-service employees is based on one three hundred and sixti- · creased cost of living, which we all admit, have received increases in pay in recent eth part of an annual salary. It is my they cannot get a decent wage either in months by reason of reallocations? If opinion that the proposed benefit to em the form of overtime or pay increases. this bill passes they would be. receiving ployees in question should at least be I feel that the committee bill falls two increases of pay, the one by reason based on one two hundred and sixtieth, short in at least two respects of what I of reallocation and the other by reason which would be a much more equitable sho1.1ld like to see. I offered these amend of this bill. manner of adjusting the differential for ments in committee, ~ut they were voted Mr. KLEIN. That may be, but I say services well done. down. Instead of figuring the overtime to the gentleman from Texas that if they The present tremendous increase in on a basis of 36'() days we ought to make were increased by reallocation, it must the cost of living and having received no it 260 days. Then those employees would have been because they were doing good increase in salary for many, many years simply be getting time and a half, which work, the same as employees in private make it almost impossible for this group is the same as the overtime workers in enterprise who receive increases. The of employ'ees to make ends meet in the the defense factories. Instead, they are present bill does no more than continue terribly congested war activities centers only getting slightly more than straight the rate of overtime being paid at the of the Nation. I call to the attention of time. under the committee bill. I also present time, with the exception of legis the House that these employees pay cannot understand, Mr. Speaker, why lative employees. In all fairness to the higher taxes, buy War bonds, and faith this increase should not be extended to large group of loyal governmental em fully contribute to other community ac all ~overnmental employees, ·Nith the ex ployees who are struggling along on low tivities. They do not feel that the pro ception of those who head the d ~ ffererit salaries and who, in some cases, find it visions of this bill treat them fairly in agencies, why we should limit it to those almost impossible to meet the present considel'ation of the services which they who are earning less than $5,000 a year. high cost of living, it seems to me that perform. While under legislative prac Do n·ot those getting over that amount there should be no argument against tice and procedure, this bill cannot be 2922 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 amended, because of these reasons I can Klein O'Connor Simpson, Til. Robslon. Ky. Smith , Maine Weiss in no way vote against this legislation. Landis O'Hara Slaughter Rogers, Calif. Smith, Va. Wene Larcade O'Neal Smith, W. Va. · Rowan Snyder White It is with regret that I call the attention Lea Outland Smith, Wis. Sabath Somers, N.Y. Winter of the House to the great disparity in the LeFevre Pace Sparkman Scott Stevenson Wolfenden, Pa. manner in which the Congress has ap Lemke Patman Spence Sheppard Thomas, N.J. W-oodl'um,Va. Lesinski Peterson_, Fla. Springer Sheridan Thomason Wright proached the provision of overtime pay. Luce P feifer St anley Sikes Vinson, Ga. Mr. RAMSPECK. Mr. Speaker, I Ludlow Philbin St arnes, Ala. Simpson, Pa. Weaver yield myself the balance of the time on McCord PittengeT St eagall this side. McCowen Poage Stearns, N. H. So A small Wisconsin manufacturer propriation, reduces the amount recom CENSUS BUREAU found himself caught in a squeeze be mended to $18,569,735 under the current As a result of the sixteenth decennial tween a high ceiling for his raw mate year's appropriation. census, the Bureau of the Census has in rials and a low ceiling for his finished The largest items of decrease, as com its files the greatest mass of detailed in product. Immediately upon this Divi pared with the 1943 appropriation, are formation ever assembled in this Bu sion's presentation of the matter to the under the Civil Aeronautics Administra reau. Nearly the entire activity of this proper agency, the ceilings were reviewed tion. The item of establishment of air Bureau during 1944 will be in connection and adjusted to enable the small manu navigation facilities is $8,120,375 under with classifying, analyzing, and placing facturer to live. the 1943 appropriation, and the item of this information in such form as to make One complainant had a secret formula maintenance and operation of these fa it readily available in accordance with for the production of an important prod cilities is $2,385,900 under the 1943 ap law and in accordance with the needs of uct used in the manufacture of high propriation. The total decrease for all war agencies in connection with surveys speed tools and essential mechanical items under the Civil Aeronautics Ad of manpower and specific studies in the parts. In order to obtain his raw ma ministration is $11,027,775 under the 1943 broad economic fields of production, dis terials he was required to disclose his appropriation. Decreases in the Census tribution, and consumption. secret formula. The individual Govern Bureau and the Patent Office, in the BUREAU OF FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC COMMERCE ment representative who made that re main, account for the balance of the quirement was employed by the company total decrease under this title of the bill. Another fact-finding and statistical agency of the Government whose activ controlling 90 percent of the business in FEDERAL LOAN AGENCmS that particular field. The complainant ity has proved especially useful during declined to make the disclosure and ap Pursuant to a recent ExecUtive order, the war period is the Bureau of Foreign pealed to this Division. Through study all functions, powers, and duties of the and Domestic Commerce. During the of the problem and appeal to a different Federal Loan Agency, and of the Fed period of its existence it has gathered, authority he not only obtained his raw eral Loan Administrator which relate to and is now making available to other materials but was given a directive to the Electric Home and Farm Authority,. agencies of the Government, much data increase his production 1,000 percent, by the Export-Import Bank of Washington, concerning both world and domestic reason of his saving in highly critical and the Reconstruction Finance Corpo economy which information is not avail materials. ration and its affiliates were transferred able elsewhere and would have to have to the Department of Commerce, to be been developed by the war agencies The committee also wishes to reiterate administered under the direction of the themselves, and at perhaps greater cost. its position with respect to investigations Secretary of Commerce. All administra With regard to the field offices of the of small loan sharks. Testimony before tive expenses of these agencies are de Bureau of Foreign and Domestic Com the committee revealed that there is ap rived from funds of the corporations merce, the mass of conflicting evidence proximately $500,000,000 loaned at 30 to and no appropriations from the Treasury made it impracticable for the committee 36 percent annually, and approximately general fund for them are contained in to pass definitely on the Budget recom $100,000,000 loaned at interest rates this bill. However, the Congress does mendation for their discontinuance. An ranging between 120 and 240 percent an control the amounts of such funds which investigation of the functions of these nually. There is little question but that may be used for administrative purposes, offices is now being conducted under these amounts will be increased because and the committee has authorized the House Resolution No. 69, and it is hoped of the country's tax burden and the amount of $10,041,600 for fiscal year 1944, that upon the receipt of a report on this broadening of the tax base. It was rep which is slightly less than the authori investigation the committee will be in resented to the committee that loan zation for 1943. The Electric Home and better position to determine the desira sharks have proved especially trouble Farm Authority, as such, was liquidated bility of continuing these offices perma some around the war plants. in October 1942 and its assets, liabilities, nently or discontinuing them for the. When you get into those colossal fig funds, records, and so forth, transferred duration of the war period. ures in respect to money, you know that to the Reconstruction Finance Corpora · Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. some place at the top somebody is man tion. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? aging or engineering the control. I think CIVIL AERONAUTICS ADMINISTRATION Mr. RABAUT. I yield. that through the Antitrust Division in Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I the Department of Justice we could get to Of the total amount recommended for was very distressed that those appro the bottom of this system and stop the this Department, $27,210,000, of 50 per cent, is.for the Civil Aeronautics Admin priations have been left out of the bill, racket. because they are the only offices that the Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. istration, and of this amount, $19,650,000 small businessman has to which he can Chairman, will the gentleman yield? is for the maintenance and operation of go. He cannot afford to send experts to Mr. RABAUT. Yes. air navigation facilities. This mainte Washington or all over the country to Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Did nance work is under the immediate di find out data for him as to foreign trade. the committee determine whether this is rection of four divisions of the Adminis tration, namely, the Airways Engineering The Board of Economic Warfare, or at done on the part of a few loan sharks or least two members of it, told me that by many? I think it would be interesting Division, the Signals Division, the Com they would be sorry to see these offices to have that pointed out. munications Division, and the Air Traf fic Control Division. abolished. Mr. RABAUT. That is what we want Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chaimlan, will the an investigation for. This Administration is now supervis gentleman yield? Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. And ing and controlling the operations on Mr. RABAUT. Yes. · the gentleman thinks it has been the approximately 35,000 miles of airways. Mr. CARTER. I assure the gentle work of a few? While it is estimated that approximately woman from Massachusetts that the Mr. RABAUT. We think there is a 80 percent of the present traffic is mili chairman of the committee, as well as coni'rolled system in the business. tary, cost of the work is being continued the members, were very mindful of the COMMERCE DEPARTMENT from the long-range viewpoint of devel benefits to small business, and others, The total amount carried in the bill oping and improving all types of tech accruing by reason of the operation of for the Commerce Department is $53,- :r..ical safety aids so that the certainty, these offices. We went into that matter 714,000, a decrease in the Budget esti frequency, and safety of flying in the very thoroughly. We had a session with mates of $793,000 and $15,449,500 less United States may be generally in the Bureau of the Budget, a part of than the appropriation for 1943. The creased. What reductions were made by which was in executive session, and also total amount of the more or less uncon the committee in this item were predi with the Board of Economic Warfare. trollable and automatic increases con cated on the present and prospective We are not unmindful of the great value tained under this title of the bill is ·manpower shortage and on the scarcity of these offices. We are very sympa $3,120,235, which, when considered in of certain strategic supplies and ma thetic toward them and we feel that we connection with the proposed 1944 ap- terials. are following the proper course when we 2928 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 leave this matter to the investigating This bill has been very carefully con propriation of $42,768,000 in this bill. committee to further investigate and re sidered, and as is usual with my col That is an increase of nearly $4,000,000 port on the matter. leagues on the Appropriations Com over last year, which, of course, is a very Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Has mittee, I find , myself in the position sizable increase, but considering the im the gentleman any idea when the report where I wanted to cut the bill down even portance and the nature of that work, will be in? more than it has been cut. This was even though I voted grudgingly for most Mr. RABAUT. I could not say that it done in but very few instances, although of these increases, I voted most heartily will be in before this bill is considered in I found a more cooperative spirit when for this particular one. another body. We feel reasonably cer it came to cutting this year than we have Another matter relating to the Depart tain that it will be in before the end of in years past. ment of State is the Foreign Service Aux the fiscal year, so that if any injustices There are a number of places where iliary. That was something new to me. are done, we will have plenty of time to in my opinion this bill could have been I find that in addition to the regular bring in a deficiency item. cut more without in any way endanger force of the State Department we have Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. The ing the war effort, and still permit the now the Foreign Service Auxiliary, in gentleman means that the offices will various departments and bureaus to which there have been placed hundreds continue until further action is taken? carry on their work. of employees. Mr. RABAUT. The offices will con I call your attention to one or two in Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. tinue to June 30, 1943, under the appro stances where I believe this bill can be Chairman, will the gentleman yield? priation made for this purpose. The cut substantially. In the first place, per Mr. CARTER. I yield. Budget eliminated the fund for them for mit me to say that the program of co Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Un the fiscal year 1944. As my colleague operation with the American republics der civil service or under what guise are from California [Mr. CARTER] stated, we has been carried on for a number of they put in? How were they taken into called in representatives of the different years. You know Mr. Nelson Rocke the auxiliary? departments. The B. E. W. said they feller heads an activity that has been Mr. CARTER. I am not certain as to used the offices quite a bit, and so did doing some very good work there. He the method of appointment, but I un some of the other agencies, but when has r..ot been receiving his funds from this derstand that they are not under civil we asked them how much they would appropriation. He has been getting his service. contribute for the information they got, appropriation from another source. In Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. they would not allow another penny for orcter to carry on this work they have There is no career service about it, then? it. The Board of Economic Warfare turned over to the State Department a Mr. CARTER. No. transferred $50,600 to these offices for number of the activities formerly con Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. services rendered or to be rendered dur ducted by Mr. Nelson Rockefeller. While They were just appointed? ing the current fiscal year. for the fiscal year 1943 the State De Mr. CARTER. It is designated "For Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Two partment received $1,685,000 for carry eign Service Auxiliary.'' It is held dis members of the B. E. W. told me ing on this work, the Bureau of the tinct from the regular State Department they would have to have other ofilces of Budget approved the sum of $6,000,000 service on the theory that it may be their own if these are not continued. It for the fiscal year 1944. The commit terminated at any time. seems to me that that would be an un tee cut it down to $4,500,000, and that is Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. It necessary expense in view of the fact the amount that stands in the bill at the is an emergency service? that the present per'sonnel is already present time. Mr. CARTER. Yes, but I happened trained to render this service. My opinion is that a great deal of this to visit Rio de Janeiro not so long ago. Mr. RABAUT. I am particularly work has absolutely no wartime value I found a very efilcient service there. pleased that the gentlewoman has and we could cut a million and a half or Their quarters seemed to be quite brought out that point, because there two million dollars from the fund with crowded. Imagine my surprise when in will be some objection from this com out doing the least bit of injury, looking over the personnel I found 100 mittee if it is attempted to establish · Another place where I feel a substan Foreign Service Auxiliary employees had these offices in any of the so-called new tial sum might be cut out is in the De recently been assigned to the city of Rio activit.ies of government, because we partment of Justice appropriation. You de Janeiro. I cannot imagine that in feel that, whenever possible, work should will remember that a few years ago we accelerating their force at that rate, be done in the old-line agencies of the put through an appropriation providing they are doing efilcient work. Therefore Government and new agencies should be for the registration of all aliens. I was I think the State Department should created only in the event old-line agen for that bill. In fact, I introduced one of scrutinize the efforts of the Foreign cies are not equipped to perform a the first alien-registration bills offered Service Auxiliary very carefully. required function. in this House. I voted for the alien-reg The gentleman from Michigan, chair Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I istration bill. At the time I voted for it man of the subcommittee, has covered feel sure of that. This has been ad I had no idea that a new organization the general features of this bill very well, vanced to help small business, and then would be set up in the Bureau of Immi so that there are just one or two other we take away one of the most useful gration to follow through and to per items to which I desire to ·call your things we have had. sonally interview these foreigners to find attention. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the out this, that, and the other thing about I believe that the Government of the gentleman from Michigan has expired. them. I do not believe that is a neces United States renders a great deal of Mr. RABAUT. We have not taken sary war activity. unnecessary and valueless free service. them away. It has been suggested by The chairman of the subcommittee, In the past we have all received many the Budget that it be taken away. We the gentleman from Michigan [Mr. publications from the various bureaus are making an investigation to see RABAUT], has just concluded telling you and departments in which we had abso whether it should be eliminated or not. about the fine work of the Federal Bu lutely no interest. They went into the Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. You reau of Investigation. I concur most wastebasket. They served no useful are marking time, in other words? heartily in his statement. I feel that J. purpose as far as we were personally Mr. RABAUT. Yes. Edgar Hoover and his force of able as concerned. They might have contained Mr. Chairman, I yield back the re sistants are carrying on a very splendid very valuable information, but tt was not mainder of my time. work. If any of these registered for information of particular interest to us. Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield eigners or others attempt anything un As an example of that, I want to cite myself 10 minutes. lawful I am sure they will be picked up this instance: By writing to the Bureau The hour is late. There are a num by the F. B. I. very soon and there is no of the Census you can obtain certain ber of other speakers who desire to ad necessity to carry on this special inves data as to where you lived at a certain dress the Committee this afternoon, so tigating work. time, and certain other vital statistics I will not detain you any great length of I might say in passing that the Federal information. Formerly that was issued time. Bureau of Investigation carries an ap- without any charge. I believe it was the 1943 CONGRESSIONAL_ RECORP-. HOUSE 2929 chairman of our subcommittee who sug there was no injury done to any person. as you will observe, is for the use of the gested a year or so ago that it might 'Qe In closing let me say that some amend Federal Bureau of Investigation and the a good idea to make a slight charge for ments to reduce certrun items in the ap-· Immigration and Naturalization Divi that information. So the Bureau of the propriation will be offen~d. The respon sion. The two divisions, together with Census will supply the information to sibility is no more on me than it is on the Federal prison system, cover about 79 anyone desiring to have them verify the any Member of this House. Thi& is not percent of the total amount of this bill. fact that they were at a certain place the Chairman's bill; ,it is not my bill; it The Federal prison system requested an when a certain census was taken; but is the bill of this Congress, and I trust appropriation of $14,771,700; the com now they charge a fee of $1 for that that each and every Member of the mittee reduced this amount $427,000, and information, with this very startling and House will give thorough consideration approved $14,344,700. The population enlig~tening result. at the time these amendments are of the Prison Division now is more than The CHAIRMAN. · The time of the offered. 18,000; it is interesting to note that this gentleman from California has expired. Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr.. population has been considerably re Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield Chairman, will the gentleman yield for duced since the war began and since the myself 5 additional minutes. one question? increased ·demand for labor. It is also One of the Census employees, in tes Mr. CARTER. I .yield. interesting to note that these prisons tifying before the subcomm~ttee, said Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I have produced more than $18,000,000 that a year ago 72,000 applications of am very much interested in the 100 men worth of material for the Government this kind were received in · January, in Argentina in the Foreign Service Aux within the last year. Two of the institu 56,000 in February, 76,000 in March, iliary. Do · these men come from Mr. tions under this Division, one at Ter 75,000 in April, 68,000 in May, 89,000 in Nelson Rockefeller's office or from the minal Island, Calif., and one at Dallas, June, and 75,000 in July. Then the State Department itself? Tex., have been transferred to other $1 fee began to have its effect and the Mr. CARTER. They do not come Government activities. applications fell off to 22,000 in August, from Mr. Rockefeller's office; they are Special inspection of Immigration and 19,000 in September, 20,000 in October, regular employees of the State Depart Naturalization Service involves investi and by the December following it had ment, and their salaries are covered in gating enemy aliens seeking citizenship fallen off further to 15,000. So within this appropriation bill. to make as rea.Sonably sure as possible 1 year's time those applications for Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I that persons who are not worthy of which this fee was charged fell off from was interested that they are increasing citizenship do not receive it. 72,000 to 15,000. We have felt that there the service so much, doing so much down At tht> present time there are 200,000 are many other bureaus and depart there; yet in the field offices of the For enemy alien petitioners, of which 100,000 ments which might emulate this and eign and Domestic Commerce Bureau are Germans and Italians. thereby effectuate a great saving for the there is an entire curtailment. The regular examiner interviews and Federal Government. Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman, will the examines the alien enemy petitioner and Mr. MURDOCK. Mr. Chairman, will gentleman yield? witness only. The function of the spe the gentleman yield? Mr. CARTER. I yield. cial investigator is to interview others Mr. CARTER. I yield. Mr. STEFAN. To enlighten the gen to find out how the man is regarded in Mr. MURDOCK. Could not that have tlewoman from Massachusetts I may say his neighborhood, in his place of em been due not so much to the fact that a there are 75 employees in the Argentine ployment, and so forth. fee of $1 was imposed as to a change under the auxiliary service. Their total The Immigration and Naturalization in the War Department's orders with pay roll is $169,000. Service feels that of the 100,000 Germans respect to employing civilians in war Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield and Italians referred to abovP- who are work? back the balance of my time. seeking citizenship, · 30,000 to 40,000 Mr. CARTER. The War Department's The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman order was not changed; it still stood and should be subjected to special investiga·· from Michigan has consumed 34 min tions. they had to have their certificates. I utes; the gentleman from California, 15. may, however, say to the gentleman from The increase in personnel requested is, Mr. RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, I yield no doubt, due to the influx of petitions Arizona that for many years it has been 15 minutes to the gentleman from North running along at a very high degree and because of the desirability of citizenship Carolina [Mr. KERR J. at this time. Also, this group cannot be that it commenced to diminish soon after Mr. KERR. Mr. Chairman, my genial this fee was adopted. I should like to employect in defense work unless nat and very able chairman has allotted me uralized. prophesy to him that regardless of the this short time in order that I may dis bureau or department a similar fee The amount requested by the 1:'. B. l. cuss the appropriation involved in this for the fiscal year 1944 was $43,568,000. under similar circumstances would de bill relative to the Department of Justice. crease the amount of work the Federal The committee reduced this item $800,- Government would have to do without THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE--APPROPRIATION 000. This division received in 1943 the doing anybody any substantial harm. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1944 sum of $38,836,000, and you will note that Mr. MURDOCK. I think the gentle The Department of Justice was estab this appropriation carries $3,932,000 man is right in that respect concerning lished by the act of June 22, 1870, with more than the 1943 appropriation. The many of the free services, but if the gen the Attorney General at its head; prior work of this division has steadily in tleman will permit, I should like to com to 1870 the Attorney General was a mem creased due to our war activities; there ment a bit further. A year ago from ber of the President's Cabinet, but not are now more than 14,000 employees en my large State I received hundreds of at the head of this Department. The gaged in its work throughout the West calls for birth certificates because these office of the Attorney General was cre ern Hemisphere. In the District of Co American citizens wanted to go to work ated under authority of the act of Sep lumbia there are 7,218 employees, and yet in the war plants, and the War Depart tember 24, 1789. Not until May 31 , 1918, the evidence discloses that this depart ment required birth certificates; so were the legal offices of the various Gov ment's work is far from current. Its prior to July 1 of last year we got hun ernment agencies consolidated in the duties embrace the taking, examination, dreds of requests. There are other rea Department of Justice. and recording of fingerprints; the appre sons why citizens need their birth cer The total estimate for the Department hension of criminals charged with sab tificates. I think they should be obtain of Justice for the fiscal year 1944 was otage, treason, espionage, and every con able. After July 1, when the dollar fee $105,707,400; the committee has cut this ceivable crime, alien enemies, selective was charged, there were fewer requests, estimate, as you will observe, $3,050,100; service violators, conscientious objectors, but I am wondering if some of that fall the increase requested for 1944 over the and so forth. Besides these matters, ing off was not due to action of the War fiscal -year 1943 appropriation was $4,- this division conducts a defense training Department itself in easing this require 112,800. The increase allowed was school and a police academy, and so ment. $1,062,700. forth. The Bureau also does confiden Mr. CARTER. We inquired as to that, About 65 percent of the recommended tial work for the President, and so forth. and as far as we were able to ascertain, appropriation for the fiscal year 1944, Its mail matter is s.tupendous. LXXXIX--185 2930 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 The Immigration and Naturalization fiscal year 1943; it received a transfer rubber supplies after this war is ended, Division received in 1943 the sum of $19,- from the Office of the Assistant to the or are we going to be blind enough to 450,000; this was raised by supplemental Attorney General of $18,280, making a surrender these synthetic-rubber plants amounts to $26,144,500. The request for total for 1943 of $107,380; its request for to selfish private interests interested in 1944 is $25,321,000, which amount the 1944 is $117,700. Your committee rec suffocating this new industry, or are we committee reduced $1,000,000. The work ommends for this Division for the fiscal going to let them lapse into disuse, or is of this Division has also greatly increased year 1944 the sum of $117,700. This the Government going to attempt to because of war activities-more inspec Division has charge of history of legisla continue their operation with all of the tors, examiners, and clerical help are tive work, advice in respect to pending inefficiencies of bureaucratic control? necessary; the research and educational legislation, and the need for such, and so In short, are we going to repeat our branches have been enlarged and an forth, clearinghouse. mistake of this war and leave ourselves adjudication branch established; alien Tax Division; in 1943 this Division had vulnerable as to our rubber supply by registration; 12 alien camps to take care an appropriation of $620,600 for 1943; it reestablishing the source of that supply of, with 6,000 inmates. There are 1,746 is now requesting the sum of $600,000, across the sea in foreign countries in employees on border control. And this and the committee recommends the sum stead of preparing to produce it here Division is asking for a per~onnel in of $600,000. There is a large amount of at home where we are certain that we crease of 1,326. · litigation pending and great sums of are· invulnerable in the event of another You will note that the appropriation money involved; there has been some war? for the Lands Division for 1943 was $3,- decrease in its work, and we trust that Is there at work here some diplomatic 750,000; the estimate for 1944 is $4,000,- it will soon become current. This Divi necessity which requires that we tacitly 000. The committee recommends an· ap sion seems well staffed with an able agree with some foreign view that we propriation of $3,750,000 for the fiscal corps of lawyers and employees. must junk our synthetic-rubber industry year 1944. The increase requested was The- work of the Criminal Division after the war in order to continue a due to litigation involving the acquisi has been increased-doubled-since the good-neighbor spirit, or is there deep tion of a large amount of land for war war activities began, and it is request down underneath this old question some purposes; 5,000,000 acres have been set ing an increase of 24 new employees actual plan in the minds of somebody to tled for and there is pending about 7,000,- with a total cost of $93,000. The appro junk the synthetic-rubber plants estab 000 acres in controversy. priation for 1943 was $587,800, and their lished in this country during the war in The Administrative Division requested estimate for fiscal year 1944 is $653,000. order to favor other countries or the an increase of $94,900 over the 1943 ap This Division has charge of every kind of nationals of other countries? propriation. In 1943 the amount re crime against the Government, viola These questions must be determined ceived was $1,015,000. It now asks for tion of selective-service laws, war fraud and the answers must be found. by the $1,109,900. This Division had supple cases, matters arising through the Congress in the case of rubber, because mental allowance in 1943. There has F. B. I. disclosures, the May Act, and so the pattern of rubber ma.-y be the pat been a great turn-over in the Justice forth. The committee· recommends an tern of sugar; it may be the pattern of Department; 6,000 have left and 2,500 appropriation in the amount of $653,000 grain; it may be the pattern of beef. have joined the Army; only 65 have been for the fiscal year 1944. In short, we have involved here in deferred by draft boards. You will note The Claims Division has charge of thiS rubber question the problem of a that a large sum of this appropriation, those cases arising against the Govern critical material vital to our national as in all the divisions,-is for promotions ment and where the Government is defense as far into the future as we now under the Rampeck law_and salary range party plaintiff, such as patent cases, can foresee; also, the question of a broad personnel increase. The turn-over re marine insurance, and the adjustment general policy which either looks to nec ferred to here obtains largely through of international matters that should not essary military self-sufficiency in the out all divisions of the Department. This be litigated. In 1943 this Division re United States or to a deliberate and Division has only 592 employees and is ceived an appropriation in the sum of mistaken policy of so dispersing and requesting 30 more; $1,100,000 allowed; $504,600; this year it is requesting the scattering our supplies of essential ma reduced $9,900. sum of $511,200, the increase being terials as to leave us vulnerable. The Solicitor General's office requested largely due to the Ramspeck Act and an It would seem incredible that intelli for- 1944, $99,600; $500 of this is for amount necessary to carry certain per gent, patriotic Americans in public office Ramspeck Act. We cut this $4,000. This sonnel on a year's basis. The commit could for a moment lend themselves to office has the duties of preparing and tee recommends an appropriation of such a blind scheme. arguing cases before the Supreme Court. $480,000 for the fiscal year 194.4. Recently I took the floor to inform It also makes recommendations to the this House that our Government has Supreme Court in reference to appeals Special attorneys, Pardon Attorney made no secret agreement with any and writes the opinions of Attorney Gen Office, Immigration Appeal Board country to scrap our synthetic-rubber eral, with his approval. This set-up has appropriation, $143,000; reduction, plants after the war and make us again only J 2 lawyers and 11 clerks. The $3,000, and so forth. The increased dependent for this vitally strategic ma amount requested was $99,600 and we work throughout the whole Department terial on the natural rubber-producing recommend $95,600. · There was turned has necessitated its employees to work countries. I made that statement to the back into the Treasury last year $6,000. on a 48-hour basis and the personnel House after articles and editorials were This Division hoped to keep this turn to increase from 9,000 to about 33,000 widely printed that Dr. William Hale, back in case it needed several other em since 1939. former chief chemist ot the Dow Chemi ployees. Mr. 'CARTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield cal Co., of Michigan, was charging that The Assistant to the Attorney Gen 20 minutes to the gentleman from Ne braska [Mr. STEFAN]. such agreements had been entered into era~·a Office. This Division had an between our State Department and some appropriation of $106,300 for 1943; it SYNTH~IC RUBBER IN DOUBT? of the governments south of the Rio now requests the sum of $216,500. You Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman, we are Grande. I was authorized by the De will note from the record that in the confronted by a series of questions here partment of State to say there is no reorganizing of the work of the Depart that project themselves further into the secret union with any country to that ment of Justice and the readjustment future than any man can now see. effect. I was informed that no one in of its work there are many duties as Are we going to invest billions of dol the Department of State who has au signed to this Division; page 36 of the lars of American taxpayers' money in thority to make agreements, either pub hearings will give to you a full list of any foreign country, only to have the lic or secret, knew of any such agree these various duties now assigned to this industries built by those dollars turned ment, and that Dr. Hale, if he were cor Division. We are recommending an over to some cartel probably controlled rectly quoted, was in error. Thus the appropriation of $176,500 for the con by foreigners? . State Department unequivocally stated duct of this Division for fiscal year 1944. Are we going to continue the syn there was nobody in authority to make The Division of the Assistant Solicitor thetic-rubber and rubber-substitute fa secret agreements who has made any General is a very important set-up; it cilities in this country as going indus such public or secret agreements with had an appropriation of $89,100 for the tries to make us independent of foreign any country in the world. 1943 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2931 Apparently the few · minutes I was question but none will deny- that we will their properties again the price of raw given in which to convey to this House need a million or more tons of rubber rubber may be much lower. That as the State Department's refutation of the for our own military and naval needs, sumes, of course. that the Japanese will charges alleged to have been made by our civilian quotas, and supplies for our not destroy the rubber trees in the Far Dr. Hale were not sufficient, and the ex allies. The Dutch and English rubber East. This can be only the merest as planation I made must not have been monopolies have lost control of their sumption, of course. convincing enough, because, since I rubber supply. They are getting some Nevertheless, we in the United States made those brief remarks I have been but very little. So the United States is are not idle so far as raw rubber is con asked by many Members of this body now called upon to produce the rubber. cerned. Besides buying every pound we and by many persons in private indus Immediately the question arises: Are we can wherever we can get it, we have try to discuss the matter more fully. I getting any raw rubber now and what launched upon what will amount to a have received a large number of tele are we doing about getting more of it? general revolution in agriculture and in grams, letters, and telephone calls ask The answer is that we are getting quite dustry in the Central and South Amer ing me to be more explicit concerning a large quantity of raw rubber. Some ican countries. We are interesting our .. the State Department's denial that no comes from South America, where we are selves especially in the exploitation of secret agreement has been made regard launching a gigantic program at the raw rubber. The vast Amazon River, ing our rubber program. It is for that American taxpayers' expense to enlarge with its tributaries and long stretches of reason I take the floor at this time to the output. Some comes from outside unexplored swamps, are being scouted as give the House some information which the Western Hemisphere. But the never before for the rubber tree. With may not hav~ been available to all of you amount of raw rubber we are getting, the money of the American taxpayer we who are interested in our synthetic-rub and the amount we can expect to get in are sending armies of laborers, econo ber program. the next 3 or 4 years, is utterly inade mists, scientists" and other experts into First, let me say. I greatly fear future quate for our war needs. the Amazon country to get out every events will bring a bitter disappointment This raw rubber picture is an ugly one. ounce of raw rubber that can be found. to the American farmers who in past It would have been a more dismal pic To do this we are fighting the tropical years have been encouraged to believe ture, in my opinion, but for the foresight diseases of that area. We are :fighting the protective tariff has given them real of Jesse Jones, Secretary of Commerce. leaf and tree diseases in a gigantic move protection, and who have believed the Contrary to general reports, Secretary ment calling for unlimited American American agricultural market belongs Jones began . purchasing raw rubber funds in order that more and more raw first to them. I fear the blow which many, many months before Pearl Har rubber may be produced to supplement shattered this hope of American farm bor. Just how large a stock pile of pre a gigantic synthetic-rubber. program. ers in protection of their home market ~ious raw rubber we acquired before You will get this story in full if you care came in a statement of the Vice Presi Pearl Harbor I cannot officially say. fully read the hearings on this bill mak dent of the United States, HENRY A. WAL It is my guess, however, that our stock ing appropriations for the State, Justice, LACE. In that statement he indicated pile would have been considerably larger and Commerce Departments. In this that a program of new uses for Ameri:.. had it not been for the discouraging bill is included a cultural-relations pro can farm products was not the policy of interference by those monopolies which gram the like of which never has been the American Government. Mr. WAL controlled the rubber output at the time imagined by American taxpayers. LACE indicated that the substitute and our Government was trying to bu:- it. We now come to the question of oi.tr synthetic materials program we are now That interference was largely expressed American synthetic-rubber program and undertaking would be elimin~ted at the in the refusal of the British and Dutch the cost thereof. The best information end of the war, and the American mar monopolies to allow this raw rubber to be I can learn at this time is that synthetic ket for those synthetic or substitute carried in our own ships, and their de rubber, as we are making it now, will materials would be turned over to those mands that it be brought to us in craft cost us around 35 cents per pound. But countries where the natural materials of their own countries. There were we would pay even more for it to win are produced. other reasons, too. But we were buying the war. Now let me give you briefly some facts rubber many months before Pearl Har We will be starting to make it in large about our synthetic-rubber program that bor. We bought large quantities and did quantities sometime in 1944. The delay may interest you. I am not now quoting amass a large stock pile, but this stock in production has been due largely, I any officials of our Government. I am pile of rubber dwindled as the war believe, to the fact that we have given giving you my personal conclusions as I spread. We are now called upon not the green light to the petroleflm interests have reached them after many months only to meet the needs of our own Army instead of giving adequate attention to of study and numerous conferences with and Navy and civilian population, but the more rapid methods of making syn officials who should know the facts. Let we must ship rubber to our allies as well. thetic rubber from farm products. I can us first discuss the case of raw rubber. That British-Dutch rubber restriction say from authoritative information that I believe we normally have used about and shipping policy was very short we are now producing a little synthetic 600,000 to 700,000 tons of raw rubber sighted and disastrous for all concerned. rubber, but very little of it is coming from annually. We get different figures from So we now must tum to synthetic rub butadiene produced from grain alcohol. different officials, but most of them seem ber to supplement the meager amount of Most of the synthetic rubber we are now to agree that we have used about that naturai rubber we are able to buy from producing comes from petroleum prod much raw rubber. We got most of that various sources. ucts and coal tar. I believe by the middle rubber from the Far East. The output In order for you to see this whole rub of 1944 we may be producing about 600,- was controlled by the British and Dutch ber picture more clearly, ·it is necessary 000 tons of synthetic rubber, but if the rubber monopolies. They let us have for me to tell you something about raw grain alcohol process is used more lib this raw rubber only in quantities which rubber costs. I cannot talk to you from erally, I am convinced that we could be would not glut the market, and in such a a scientific or technical standpoint be producing a very great deal more rubber way as to keep the prices up. These two cause I can have only a layman's view. by the end of 1944. monopolies, in my opinion, did some What I am saying is said from that I feel that a mistake has been made profiteering in this rubber traffic with standpoint. · I do know, however, that in allocating to the petroleum industry us, in that they insisted the rubber be raw rubber is costing us a very high price practically all of the money for the man shipped in bottoms controlled by the na at this time. I have it from good au ufacture of synthetic rubber. In my tionals of the countries of the two mo thority that the people from whom we opinion-and I say this after listening nopolies. This has always been British buy raw rubber can make good profits to most of the hearings before the Gil practice. They look after their own. now by producing that raw rubber at 10 lette committee in the Senate on new The quantity of rubber we need now cents a pound. We are now paying 20 uses for agricultural products-while it since we are embarked upon a global cents a pound for it. It is to be expected would cost a little more to produce syn war will amount, I am informed, to that when the war is over and the British thetic rubber from grain alcohol, it would 1,200,000 tons. Experts differ on that and Du~ch monopolies get control of be much cheaper to construct butadiene 2932 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 plants where the butadiene is manufac · right now. There are several formulas. cerned . . Given the opportunity, I assure tured from grain alcohol. These plants The Russian formula has not been dis- you, Mr. Chairman, that the American could be constructed more rapidly than carded, in spite of assertions to· the con- farmers can and will produce sufficient plants in which petroleum product~ are trary. While Mr. Jeffers is at work on material to keep these plants which we used. I refer you to the hearings .of the supply, Jesse Jones gets his construe- are now building with the American tax Gillette committee to substantiate this tion and purchasing orders, and so far payers' money busy permanently. statement. All ·of this information is in as I can learn there is quite a program American science and American genius voluminous printed hearings. So there of coordination between the interests can make that possible. There is no rea is no point in detailing all of that infor involved. son at this moment, when we are in the mation ·in this statement. What I wish All of this brings us to the pressing midst of a great war, to alarm the Amet- to do is to bring the facts concerning the . need of careful inquiry into the original ican people with stories that these great synthetic rubber program down to date. charge that after the war 1s over this synthetic..:rubber factories in which these This Congress and the people should entire gigantic synthetic-rubber pro- people will have hundreds of millions of know these facts: gram, with all of our huge investments, dollars invested are to be scrapped when Your Government, with your money, is will be scrapped. I am reliabl~ in- hostilities cease. now constructing 30 or more factories formed that the synthetic-rubber fac- We are well aware, ·Mr. Chairman, for the manufacture'of synthetic rubber. tories we are constructi;ng are being ·that while we a~e building great grain When .the construction program is built in a very permanent form. The alcohol plants on navigable streams, it is completed for synthetic rubber, your · buildings are of the best material se- being whispered about that the special Government will have invested six hun curable. The machi!fery is of the latest blackstrap molasses interests are laying dred or seven hundred million dollars or type. Improvements and changes are plans to take· over these plants after the more in these synthetic-rubber plants. made from time to time. Everything is war and that again the grain farmers of All of these factories will belong to being constructed for permanency. Americ'a will be forced to compete with the Government. Private capital will True. • the synthetic-rubber plants are be- the blackstra-p molasses monopoly. not have a penny invested in these plants. ing constructed solely for the manufac- We ·are· also aware, Mr. Chairman, They are now and will continue to be ture of synthetic rubber. Whether they that the special raw rubber monopolies ·owned entirely by your Government. ·could be converted to some other pur- , who handie,apped. our _raw rubber- buy- . Your Government merely employs pri pose after the.war, I do not know. Prob.- 1 ing .at our time of \'ital need are .even vate industry to operate these plants. ably any such'conversions would involve , now laying . plans to again recapture The output of the plants belongs to your tremendous outlay of additional ex- their special control of rubber after· the . Government. penses. war. Your Government employs private in I am reliably informed by experts who The grea_t expe!fditures we are mak- dustry to construct the plants. are now testing_our first output of syn- b1g at this time, Mr. Chairman, must-be There is no denial that these plants thetic rubber that, with more experi- made to work for the very purposes they will be operated at a great loss. ·ence; mass production, chemical re- _are now in~'Qgurated-:-to win this war - What is true about synthetic-rubber · search, especially lf farm products are · against all of our enemies, and to bring· · d · '11 t 11 b bl t · _peace and happiness to the world. plants is true about grairi•alcohol plants use • we Wl even ua Y e a e 0 pro.;. These investments must b'e' ut1:11·zed i-n which your Government is constructing . duce synthetic rubber at a cost close to at this time on the same plan as it is con that of natural raw rubber. I am sure· establishing our future economy. structing synthetic-rubber plants. from my investigations that these great I have been informed there is a world After hostilities cease yo~ Govern synthetic-rubber plants will not be wide monopoly in existence at this time men~ will be in full po~session of many scrapped after the war. Science will which is planning the prevention of com millions of dollars' worth of synthetic bring to u_s more and more new uses for mercia! development. If, as the United States News claims, we will soon have rubber plants and alcohol plants. It.will our farm products • our coa1 • and· petro;. ' an investment of two billions in Central require an act of Congress, after Jhe . leu~ pr.oducts.. Our synthetic-rubber · d;nd South Anie-riea for the development , war---:unless something else . is qone in program will become one of the factors the meantime---to determine what is. to which will help us win the economic war . of agriculture and industry, is it not become of this huge· investment. which is sure to beset us in the post-war proper at this time to take some action That is why it is so important right period. · to see that this investment is not now that ~ou should inqui~e into this Despite my optimism, however, I wish eventually captured for the benefit of whole project. The Honorable Jesse to suggest to the membership of. this this alleged world-wide monopoly? Jones, Secretary of Commerce; is the House that we must be on the alert t have been informed by Thurman Director. of the Government agency against certain future potentialities. We. Arnold, form'er Director of the .Antitrust which is constructing these plants. ms must guard carefully against the schem- Division in our- Department of Justice, : ing of special interests. which, even at that practically all of the mechanized . job is to construct not only these rubber development of the future is .now in the and grain-alcohol plants but many, this moment, are said to be working to · control of various cartels. He also tells many other plants which various war secure special overriding advantages in me that the people who have· established agencies of the Government tell him are. the synthetic program. this industrial bureaucracy are schem- needed. The ,farm chemurgic progra~. which ing today to make it impossible for any- The Honorable.- William Jeffers, .presi we ha.ve. worked for so many years. to one to .get -into the bUsiness .except. the . dent' of·· the great .. Urii<>n. Pacific --Rail- : . deve-lop -must·. n.ot ~ be .cast '· aside; , The I . peo-ple who · are ·selected·, by _· the . cartel· . , road Co., is the Rubber Director;·, whose 1 · dreams. of some-of. .our o:fDclals..who .would J. , group: Mr: A-I'no-ld al.sO -inferms me .that ~-- ·~ :·.. . . duty it· is to get- the synthettc-rubber' . surren-der. to uncertain. foreign -triter.ests I r this .kind ·of .an, organiZation . is active "". , .• - program going. Not only the synthetic- a market which rightfully belongs to the ·now in South America; .that all of these rubber-program but all kinds of rubber people of the United States must not be cartel agreements are ready to be substitutes; so we will be self -sufficient allowed to defeat or retard these vitally picked up after the war; that one big as-soon as possible as far as rubber is necessary projects. We must· guard cartel organization is already active. He concerned. against misguided, even though sincere, also tells me that if this cartel ls not Briefly, the story on supply is this: international scheming which would broken up that the two billions of Amen· Our war directors and necessary -civilian again put into the control of a few the ican money to. which I referred will re'!. agencies tell the Rubber Administrator products which are vitally necessary to vert to a few private groups-probably how much rubber they have to have. so many. We must never again be left European-because it is a matter of pub Mr. Jetfers goes out to get it from every at the mercy of a foreign monopoly in lie record that American companies have possible source. There might be a dozen the matter of so vital a material as agreed to get out of South America after methods of synthetic-rubber supply. He rubber. the war. will get rubber from wherever he pos We have demonstrated that with the Mr. KERR. Will the gentleman yield? sibly can. Petroleum just happens- to· solution of distribution we have no prob- Mr. STEFAN. _ I yield. to ·the gentle- have the edge on the synthetic program lem so far as farm surpluses are con- man from North Carolina. · 1943 CONGR.ESSIONAL RECORD-:-HOUSE 2933 Mr. KERR. The gentleman made ref Associated with Captain Matson in op hearings for the Civil Aer.onautics Ad erence to our stock pile of rubber. May I erating the steamship company was his ministration. and to hear those people ask hi.m. Our stack pile of rubber dwin':" able son-in-law, William P. Roth. Mr. explain their needs and _plans and hopes, died a great deal because we had to. fur Roth succeeded as president of the com and I am proud' to say that on more than nish it to our allies? . . pany when caRtain Matson passed on iri one occasi<>n I have voted, and urged this Mr. STEFAN. There is no question 1917. Hciuse to vote, to give them more money about that. May I say to the gentleman, Bill Roth has an -even broader vision than was contained in the Executive who has labored with me on thi~ com of daring than Captain Matson. Mr. Budget proposals. mittee many, many .days, that we. cannot Roth is determined to see the American In all my dealings with the Civil depend upon receiving all of the 1·aw flag first in foreign trade. He and his Aeronautics Administration I have been rubber we will need from the Western friends purchased the Oceanic Steam deeply impressed with how well its om Hemispher.e. ship Co. The Oceanic Line, previously cials appeared to know their business Mr. KERR. I concur heartily in wha.t owned by John D. and A. B. Spreckels, and how farsighted they have been. the gentleman said and I also concur operated to New Zeal.and and Australia. The appropriation for the C. A. A. now heartily in what the gentleman said Replacing three small 6,000-ton passen 1 before you is, as has been said, incom about Mr. Jones. If one will read. the ger ships with modern express luxury . plete. It is for a little less than $28,- statement he made in reference to pro liners he has made an outstanding suc 000,000-as contrasted with a total cur curing rubber for this country, he will cess. The line offers much faster and far rent. budget of some $410,000,000-be.:. be impressed with what a magnificent better schedules than competitors. But .cause the two largest items in the current job Mr. Jones is doing, and it will vouch most important, Mr. Roth was ready for budget have not yet been submitted, to safe, in my opinion, his reputation, as be the present emergen~y in the South Pa wit, the program for 'training of airmen ing .an outstanding. statesman and one .cific. His ships, the palatial Lurline, and the program for development of of the ablest and most useful and · con Monterey, and Mariposa, are Navy auxil landing fields. It is explained that pos scientious officials of thi-s Government. iary vessels and are performing signal sible changes in war needs make it ad Mr. STEFAN. The teamwork between service. Matson captains and crews are visable to submit these items later. Jesse Jones and William Jeffers, the Rub thoroughly familiar with every isle and Nevertheless, I carmot omit mention ber Director, is good. They are both do coral reef. · of the C. A. A. pilot training program ing the country a gTeat service. The award of the Army-Navy E to the now renamed War Training Service-be Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chairman, l yield Matson Navigation Co. shows this great ·cause it will come before you sooner or 10 minutes to the gentleman from Cali shipping concern to be carrying on in later; and in my humble opinion· it is fornia [Mr ROLl'Hl. war as in· peace. The United States feels one of the first great steps toward Mr. ROLPH. Mr. Chairman, the Mat grateful to every employee because the present-day preparedness which this son Navigation Co., of San Francisco, has company was fully prepared. As the country took;. preparedness no: only for been awarded the coveted Army-Navy Member of Congress in which the Mat this war, but for the civilian air age E. While the construction and repair son home office is located, I am proud of which will follow. department of the company was specifi the company's accomplishments. Best This pl.an, launched in 1939, blazed cally designated, still, in a larger sense, wishes and congratulations to William .many · of the trails which the armed the mark of distinction is for a record of P. Roth and all his associates for con forces have followed since, and some achievement dating back to 1867, for it tinued success. Matson Navigation Co. other trails which will guide post-war fully merits the Nation's confidence and was in the latter year that William Mat flying~ It -seems incredible today, but son ·.arrived in San Francisco. He was good· will. many of you will recall that ·4 years ago then a boy of 18. Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman, follow it was considered a very daring idea to C.aptain Matson ranks with his friends ing the very eloquent .address on the give Federal aid to any college that and contemporaries, John D. Spreckels Matson Line by the gentleman from wanted to .start an aviation ground and Robert Dollar, as the three .pioneers California, I ask unanimous consent to school, and "team up" with a nearby who successfully launched American ex.tend my remarks at this point on the commercial flying school which .could steam shipping on the Pacific. Many Civil Aeronautics Administration war training program and the aviation of teach the actual flying. pessimists said they were facing finan Yet the leaders of the C. A. A. pleaded cial ruin. tomorrow. that it could ·be done, and asked for In competition with foreign lines these The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to $10,000,000 that year. Congress gave men risked their fortunes and business the request of the gentleman from Ne· them $4,000,000. But.. a year later their reputations in carrying the stars and braska? performance was so ·good, and· the situ Stripes . .throughout the entire Pacific There was no objection. ation in Europe was so bad, that we··gave CIVIL AERONAUTICS ADMINISTRATION AND THE W A.R area. Their ships. steamed into every them· $36,000,000~ port from San Francisco to Hong Kong TRAINING SERVICE Yes; we gave them· a 900-percerit in· from Seattle to -Sydney. Mr. STEFAN. Mr. Chairman·, i have crease in 1940, and asked them to give William Matson started as an humble noted with satisfaction that· in recent 60,000 flight courses. This was more employee of J-ohn D. Spreckels, later suc months there has been more and more courses than had been given in the en ceeding Mr. Spreckels in the trade to and discussion of aviation in· both Houses of tire country in the previous· 15 years, from Hawaii. the Congress. Man's conquest of the air but they went to work and did it. But I am ahead of my story. Captain is not a simple matter to understand, Mr. Chairman, the C. A. A. ·program Matson was brought up in the days of and we need all the sound and authori performed miracles of mass pilot train the sailing vessels. Early he foresaw the tative information on it tbat we can get. ing as early as 1940 which <.;ompare well, coming of steam and just after the turn We need it, if I may speak plainly, be under the circumstances, with the best of the century commenced to dispose of cause we started so late-because too war-produC-tion records of today. Th~y his fleet of sailing vessels, substituting many Americans had a blind spot on began from scratch. They wrote their cargo steamers. " aeronautics right up to the beginning of own textbooks and procedures. They His foresight was uncanny. In a few this war. retrained thousands of veteran flyers into years sailing vessels were unable to com I have had a low-boiling point on the top-notch instructors. They speeded up pete with steamers <>n the west cOast. subject of this Nation's aviation needs for their courses to get in 3 per year. They M-at~..)n's business. grew ·and grew. The a number of years. Perhaps the main spread out the work until it was .going answer-better service to the shippers. reason for this is that I was touring in on at more than 900 locations across the Captain Matson wa-s perhaps the fir-st Europe at the time Hitler was laying the broad face of this country. The moun ·to . perceive the use of oil as a fuel for groundwork for air war by training an tain went to Mahomet. Aviation reached steamships. He not only backed up his axmy of kids on g:liders, and the hand out to touch American youth at every judgment by eonv-erting his ships· fr-om writing was pretty plain to me. crossroads airport. coal to oil btirn-ers but also helped mate Then· for 3 years, it has·been·my privi ., What were the•resultS? "·In 3·years the rially in developing 'OH well-s in California. lege to be a part of the .appropriations number of civilian 1>ilots in this country 2934 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 went up from 22,000 to more than 100,- That sums up the highlights of a pro Council. The things they have done 000. The number of civilian planes rose gram which, I believe, is unparalleled in which have the most immediate wartime from 10,00(>" to 25,000. any free country; and· we should . re value are to devise better methods of · This big backlog of civilian flyers be member that its main ramrod was Rob preselecting flying cadets, to cut down gan flowing into the armed forces, for ert H. Hinckley, then Assistant Secre the "washouts"; and to improve and military training, very early in the emer tary. of Comrp.erce for Air. But sup standardize the process of teaching boys gency. By mid-1941-5 months before porting him were many of the best brains to.:fly, thus providing better pilots. Both Pearl Harbor-they were joining the air in aviation, for he knew the value of get the Army and Navy have been quick to services at the rate of 1,000 per month. ting the interested parties around the adapt these improvements to their own It is a safe bet that by now the great planning ta·ble. Hinckley's advisory programs. majority of those C. A. A. :flyers are flying committee, headed by Frank Tichenor, . The Civil Aeronautics Authority is also for Uncle Sam. And testimony as to included more than a score of real lead the Nation's aerial traffic cop. Probably how well they came out, after wa,.r train ers, one of whom-"Eddie" Allen, the i should not put it that way, because ing, is contained in the news dispatches peerless test pilot-met a tragic death what it does is. to build and operate the almost every day. I want to emphasize only the other day. _ .34,000-mile network of Federa1 airways that the C. A. A. never has claimed it The C. A. A. training program is now .over. which airplanes can :fly safely day ·made them into finished military pilots, greatly altered for the duration, to meet or night, aided by radio beams and bea ·but only that it taught them to fly. the needs and desires of the armed forces. cons and frequent weather reports and Capt. Joe Foss, the Marine Corps ace . It is concentrated in. fewer and larger .information about other planes in the of Guadalcanal, first took the air in a centers, more rigidly controlled. Its air. They also are installing blind-land "puddle jumper" as a C. A. A. student trainees are in active service. It has ing systems on the major airports, to save pilot. So did two-thirds of the R. A. F.'s ·gone to war, and those of us who have fog-bound flyers. This .skyway system late American Eagle squadron. So did pleaded so long with military leaders to -is v.ital to the air forces, because now ·one-third of the pilots :in the Navy's make full use of it should find no fault .adays 17 ·out of every 20 planes that :fly Fighting Sqaudron Six, which felled 27 with this. But let us be sure when this . it are military planes. And because the Japs in the Solomons. · A few others are fight is won that aviation training comes ·Civil Aeronautics Authority has so much ·Lt. John Bell, who wat decorated for fly back to the small colleges and the cow- . ·experience wi.th airways, it has built se .ing so many evacuees ut of Burma; and pasture airports where it had made such cret new. airways for our armed forces, Lt. Joe Shaffer, first American to down a a magnificent start. .as well as a series of new type super Nazi plane over Europe; and Lt. Ray There are three other principal phases -power radio stations which can signal ·Holsey, decorated for his Flying Fortress of C. A. A. work-airports, safety regul~ our flyers anywhere. on the globe. _ raids on Rabaul; and Ensign Tootle and tion, and the Federal airways. The cur I have touched upon the highlights Lieutenant Moore, who displayed con 'rent appropriation for development of of the work of. the Civil Aeronautics Au spicuous bravery at Midway. Another is ·landing fields is nearly $200,000,000. thority in order to. raise a point of policy. . Lt. 'J:ony Yenlavage, a bombardier with Next year's is· not yet. before us. Here ·Two years ago, and again last year, I · only 34 hours of c. A. A. :flying who ·again the governing factor at this time .expressea th~ hope that the armed forces piloted a · four-engine bomber back to must be what the armed forces n~ed. 1 .might.be able·to make good use of the England after both pilots were wounded Fast, heavy warplanes require large ·fields Civil Aeronautics Authority pilot-train · over Fianl!e. · with strong runways; so a large amount .ing program without doing major vio- These are only a handful of the· nearly of money is going into a few hundred lence to the basic nature of it or to its 100,000 fledgling pilots which the ·c. A. A. high-.class fields. How good a post-war way of operating. But they have felt ' program has put on their first wings in ·investment these prove to be will depend that some very marked. changes must be the last 4 years. and· which have pro upon their practical usefulness to the made.in it. Now, I want to raise a gen vided such a splendid backlog from air-transport system. Location is a vital eral que_stion about the Civil Aeronautics which the armed services could draw factor ..· All locations today are specified Authority in wartime. I believe sincerely pilot material. Another interesting lit by the Army or Navy, and I darE' say that it is a service organization, and a tle item about them is that 17 of the 79 some of them are not ideal from the good one. It is headed by a group of airmen who went along with Jimmy Doo viewpoint of post-war commerce; but technical men, with Charley Stanton as little on his . famous Tokyo raid were . perhaps that must be chalked up as an their chief, who have done a pioneering former C. A. .A. student flyers. other penalty of war; Conversely, a large , job that is undeniably good. Literally I imagine General Doolittle was quite number of the improvements are being thol_ls_ands of. their trained people have · pleased at that, because baclt in 1940 made on regular municipal airports, thus gone to . war agencies and they have that same Jimmy Doolittle had arranged preparing these communities for post train.ed replacements and gone ahead. a national competition to determine the war transport traffic. And there are no Mor.e than half of their regional man- three best C. A. A.-trained pilots of the frills in the C. A. A. work, which is limited .'agers recently .:were called into the Army. year, so that they r,ould wiP scholarships to the landing fields only. They have streamlined their work and for further aviation study. The inspector force which carries on are giving a maximum of efficient serv I said the c: A. A. blazed trails for the . the ·c. A. A.'s safety regulation work not ice to Army and Navy needs. war effort. One of these was the large only is helping the air lines to maintain If we are now ready to begin getting scale technical training in tne ·colleges. their fine safety record under great pres concerned about post-war aviation, we · That is now the accepted policy of the . sure, but also is doing a vast amount of had bett~r be a little concerned about armed forces. Another was the delega · wa-rtime technical work for the armed the-C. A. A., for in that agency we have tion of flight training to commercial . forces. Its engineers check designs and placed much of the Federal Govern :flying schools by contract. That was · performance of many types of noncom ment's responsibility to "foster and en considered risky business when the , bat aircraft such as troop and cargo car- courage the development of civil avia · C. A. A. started it, because many such riers, training ships, and gliders. They tion and ail· commerce." schools had been somewhat haphazard, also supervise conversion of airplanes We might take a brief glance at the devil-may-care enterprises. But they going to other countries under l~nd-lease, size of the problem.those people are going made a splendid record with the C. A. A. and keep the Nation's technical training to face. This year's production of our and today the Army Air Force contracts schools up to standard. war-built aviation industry is expected with such civilian schools for all its pri Scientific people in the C. A. A. have to.reach a value of about $20,000,000,000, mary-stage training. In fact, most of made some very important contributions which is roughly 150 times as big as it the schools now on the Army list got pre to aviation knowledge; and here again was in 1938. It is also over 5 times as vious experience with the C. A. A. And a they follow the q,ntibureaucratic policy big as the biggest year the automotive check last summer revealed that more which I like so well by farming out 'these - industry ever had. It involves not only than two-thirds of the thousands of studies and experiments to the labora billio_ns of dollars of invested capital. flight instructors in those schools also tories of leading universities, under the . both public and private, but the jobs of · came out of-the C. A. A. program. supervision of the National Research over a million trained workers. 1943 CONGRESSIONAL 'RE-CORD-HOUSE 2935 : The problem is to save as many of ·school started teaching aviation early in that the farmers are getting six-tenths those plants and jobs after the war by the year 1920, and there is not within my of 1 cent a pound for cabbage, which is finding and· developing as great a civil knowledge another civilian school of retailing here in Washington for 15 cents ian market as possible. There · is no - ·aviation in the United States that dates a pound.' doubt that aviation is going ahead in that far back. There may have been Mr. COOLEY. That is correct. great strides, but you cannot dismiss pilots at that time who were teaching Mr. ZIMMERMAN. And that the the problem as simply as that. Peace ·:flying, but so far as I know there were farmer was getting around the same time civil aviation is different from war no established :flying schools or schools price for his tomatoes and that they :flying. Nowadays we do not stop and of aviation. · were selling for 30 cents a pound here count the cost, because no price is too . It is generally believed in aviation cir in the city of Washington. great to pay if it saves our freedom. But cles that this Nebraska scho'ol dates Mr. COOLEY. Thirty-five cents a no matter how much of an expansion further back than any other civilian· · pound. we have after this war, it is not going school now operating. Mr. ZIMMERMAN. Then I did not to consume the amount of airplane pro Some of the great pioneer pilots and have it quite high enough. duction we have right now. · ·why, Mr. many of our stand-out pilots of the pres- Mr. COOLEY. That is correct. I Chairman, the value of this production . ent day learned to fly in this pioneer might call attention to some other prices. for 1943 is· goirig to be somewhere around school. I am gratified to be .able· to tell String beans, 35 cents a pound or $700 one-seventh of the national income. the House that this same school which a ton; sweetpotatoes are selling for $200 The obvious warning to all of us, then, is now in operation, was operating as an a ton; onions, $160 a ton; asparagus, . is that we must lay plans and policies · aviation ·school · long before there was $780 a ton; spinach, $300 a ton; arti to save as much of the pl'esent ·aviation any Federal agency controlling aviation chokes, $500' a ton; sweetpotatoes, 10 industry ·as possible for civilian uses. instruction. When · the Aeronautics cents a pound, or·$200 a ton. And my· point is that there is one Fed J;3ranch of the Department of Commerce Mr. DURHAM. Will the gentleman . eral agency, the C. A. A., which has was established and provision made for tell us who purchases those articles and been accumulating experience · for 16 school approval, this was one · of the who can pay such prices for them now? years, under various titles, as to how first schools in the country to qualify as Mr. COOLEY. That is the very thing , best to "foster and encourage the devel an approved school. It has car:ded all that is .bothering us. You cannot blame opment of civil aviation." That agency the ratings given by the Civil Aeronau the consumer for complaining about set up and developed the airways system, tics Administration for the teaching of prices like that. I am wondering where it has evolved and kept up to date ana aviation, both in training pilots and in is this price control. tional airport plan, it has achieved mass training mechanics. Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. Mr. air training in the colleges and made a Mr. RABAUT. -Mr. Chairman, I yield Chairman, will the gentleman yield? good· start in the high schools. 5 minutes to the gentleman from North Mr. COOLEY. Yes. From my observation, the leadership of Carolina [Mr. COOLEY]. Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. If the the C. A. A.- is very alert to this tre Mr. COOLEY. Mr. Chairman, I ask gentleman would not be so modest, he mendous post-war ·problem. At· one ex unanimous consent to revise and extend might tell his ·colleagues• that for a year treme they . have experimented · with iny remarks. and a half he has been trying before his newer and safer types of small airplanes The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? committee to work out a plan, studying for the aver-age man to :fly. At the other, There was no objection. this spread between the price that the their engineers-are conducting tests and Mr. COOLEY. Mr: Chairman, I apolo-: farmer gets ang the consumer pays, and making technical analyses of the largest gize for trespassing upon the patience of if his will had prevailed, there is a lot. of and fastest· new ti·oop and cargo trans the House at this late hour, but I wish information that we would have had ports at the request of the armed forces. to call attention to a situation. which I today, more than the 0. P. A. would ever . So I suggest that no matter how great think warrants the attention of the -be able to give us. the stresses and strains of war, it will be Office of Price Administration. Per Mr. COOLEY. I thank the gentleman wise to keep the C. A. A. a live and vital sonally I do· not believe that the farm for his kindly observation. agency, ready for the great post-war ers of the Nation are contributing to Unfortunately, I was not able to con task which certainly lies ahead of it. the cause of inft.ation, nor do I fear vinc.e even the House Committee on Agri This is not a cry of alarm, but just a that they will in the immediate fu culture that the distribution of farm -word of caution. The C. A. A. is busier ture contribute to the disasters of in:fia produce and commodities presented a ·than ever before, doing a bigger job tion. I call attention to the fact that in problem which needed atte.ntion. The than it ever did, and the. bulk of its pres the city of Washington in the retail truth is in the past 10 years, and for ·ent work is war work being performed grocery stores tomatoes are selling for that matter for a much longer period of at the request of the war leaders. Most · $700 a ton. Does any Member of the time, we have spent hundreds of mil of it is technical work which is right House know what the farmers back in lions of dollars in the field of production down the alley of C. A. A. technicians his district are receiving now for toma teaching farmers how to produce. At the who have spent many years at their toes? Cucumbers are selling in the retail same time we have spent hundreds of craft. Each problem they can handle st0res here for $700 a ton and big green millions of dollars on control programs 'for the ·Army or Navy serves a ·dual pur bell peppers are selling here for $900 a and in teaching the farmers how to con ·pose. First, it releases uniformed per- 'ton. Gentlemen know that the farmers trol production, but during this same sonnel for other types of service, includ are not receiving any such price as that, time we have paid little or no attention ·ing combat; and, second, it permits the and the trouble with this cost-of-living to the great problem of distribution and ·Nation to hold together a minimum or proposition, as I believe every_intelligent marketing. The marketing bill which I ganization of workers trained in what is Member knows, is the spread in the dif .introduced last year was.· supported by certain to be one of the most difficult ference between the price that the farm . the United States Department of Agri- of post-war adjustrilehts. er receives and the price that the con cult~lre and approved by the Bureau of There are many reasons why I have sumer pays. I cannot see how anyone the Budget. It was likewise supported frequently addressed the House on the can stand on the :floor of this House and by t11e commissioners and secretaries of ·subject of aviation. I wish to conclude praise the 0~ P. A. for its fight against agr~culture in the several States and by my remarks today by telling you ·some inflation, when apparently nothing has the Extension Service and by farm or thing about the background of aviation been done about this great spread be ganizations. Agriculture's greatest prob in my own State of Nebraska. tween the price the farmer receives and lem today is the problem of distribution We have pioneered in aviation in Ne the price the consumer pays. and the proper marketing of the com- braska, and one of the first aviation Mr. ZIMMERMAN. Mr. Chairman, . modi ties produced on the farms and schools, perhaps the first one, is located will the gentleman yield? ranches of the country. It seems silly in the capital city of Lincoln. It is Mr. COOLEY. Yes. and absurd to continue to neglect to solve known as the Lincoln Aeronautical Insti Mr: ZIMMERMAN. I think it devel the marketing problem for the farmers tute Airplane and Flying School. This oped in the committee the other day of this Nation. Too many people are 2936 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE APRIL 5 "farming the farmers'' and the farmer is gentleman from Tennessee, if he can teU There are a few deductions that are constantly being accused of causing in me in the name Of common sense how self -evident~ flation, of relfishness, and greed. we can give a Federal employee a $500 Fil'St. It is, according to some people, Apparently every time some people · or -$600 bonus and have no fear of in possible -to give $500 to $600 increase in look for a cause for inflation they can flation and turn around and say we will salary to · thousands of useless Federal neither find nor see anything else except cause inflation if we provide a farmer a employees that are a detriment to th~ farmers and they erroneously lead the subsidy check for less than $100? war· effort without causing inflation. · public to believe that the farmers of I would like t-o have this analyzed for Many must feel elated to give this bonus America, and the farmers only, are caus- · me. I do not say this with any personal to the 0. P. A 'ers that have worked such ing by an unjust demand for higher reference, because I do not know any havoc in our food program. pri~es. an unholy and an unwarranted thing about how the gentleman voted. Second. Inflation is only to be worried increase in the cost of living. You may· Mr. GORE. WiU the gentleman yield? about and talked about when you men propose on the floor of this House to Mr. MURRAY .of Wisconsin. Yes, I tion the farmer-.one-half of whom do increase the income of any other group will gladly yield. · . not even have electric lights and 1 out of in America, and all of these people who Mr. GORE:. May I preface my reply 10 of whom do not even have modern are afraid of inflation never lift their by expressing very deep admiration and improvements in their homes. voices in opposition, but every time any high esteem for the learned and distin Third. It is evident that it seems de thing is proposed in the interest of the guished gentleman from Wisconsin. My sirable for some Members to picture the farmer arid his income we are given grave answer is that I voted against the in horrors of inflation where the farmer is warnings of ·great dangers. If we admit crease and furthermore I voted against involved, but they offered no vocal objec that the farmers are suffering' ftom a all increases for every group, so that no-. tion to the civil-service bill that has the ·· disparity we are certainly not justified body would make a prefit out of this war evident blessings of the administration. · in folding our hands or in opposing every except the fellow who is doing the fight- Fourth. I am sure manY. Members measure which seeks to establish equality in~ · · ' · especially those who took the role of for agriculture. · Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. I thank economy during their campaign-wili · If our farmers were actually rec·eiving the gentleman and I am surely pleased want to take the roll call on the civil $700 a ton for tomatoes, or $300 a ton to know that that is his analysis of it. service bill home and show their constit for cabbage, or $780 a ton for asparagus, But why did not someone mention infla uents their economy record and how or $900 a ton for green peppers, then tion w):len the salary boosts were pro they voted to reduce these expenditures there might be some justification for all vided ih the civil-service bill? while in Washington. Of course, some of this talk llbout the· farmers causing Mr. COOLEY. Will the gentleman will h.ave to show that they may curse inflation. · This ·is far from the truth: yield? · the ·bureaucrats, though they were will The farmer gets 2 cents a· pound for Mr. 1\.fURRA Y of Wisconsin. I yield. ing to give them a $500 to $600 boaus sweetpotatoes that sell' on the market Mr. COOLEY. ·I would like to' ask the from their grandchildren's earnings to here in Washington for 10 cents a pound. gentleman from Tennessee if both he take the sting from their curses. Inci Will anyone suggest that the sweetpotato and I · did not vote against the price dentally some should tell their constit farmer is causing inflation? Four ·uttle control bill? - uents that though the Civil Service red beets in a bunch sell in Washington Mr. GORE. Will the gentleman yield? Committee brought in a ·pension-for stores for 17 cents, and 4 littie spring Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. Yes; I Congress provision in the Seventy-sev onions about the size of your thumb sell yield. · . · enth Congress, · the same committee to in a bunch for· 25 ·cents. Of course, the Mi< G-ORE. I voted against the orig day brought in a bonus for their office cost of-living has gone up; but what has inal Price Control Act, which I think was staff of U:p to 15 percent of $6,500, o~ the'.farmer had to do with ·it,' and what a mistake. 1: ·think we started out on an $975 additionaL . . . is 0. P. A. going to do about· it? Appar.: erroneous principle, but the Congress saw Mr. ·RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, I mpve ently no one is getting excited over the differently, ·and I voted for the second that the Committee .do now rise, great spread between the producers and one. The motion was agreed to. the consumers and the poor farmer is Mr. ·COOLEY. The gentleman has Accordingly the Committee rose; and now, as always, ta~ing the br~nt of the changed his mind? the Speaker having resumed the ·chair, cussing. Mr. GORE. I have not. Mr. ·LuTHER A. JoHNSON, Chairman ·[Here-the gavel fell.] Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. Just be of the Committee of the \Vhole House on The CHAIRMAN. The time of the fore my 3 minutes expire, I do not want the ·state of the· Union, reported that gentleman- from North Carolina has to put any · words in the gentleman's that Coliunittee, having had under con expire·cv· .n mouth, but I would infer that he thinks sideration the bill H. R. 2397, had come Mr. CARTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield the measure we passed today is just as to no resolution thereon. 3 minutes to -the gentleman from Wis- inflation·ary as the Bankhead bill. But LEAVE OP ABSENCE - . · consin [Mr. MURRAY]. . I wonder why he did not speak on the By unaniinous con·sent, leave of ab Mr. MURRAY of Wisconsin. Mr. civil-service bill and its effect on infla sence was granted, as follows: Chairman· I ask' for these 3 minutes-in tion. Ye.S; I repeat, if the Bankhead bill To Mr. SIKES (at the request of Mr. order · to ' Clarify the atmosphere. · I is such a threat to ·inflation, I cannot PETERSON of Florida), for 1 week, on wanted to ask o.ur distinguished col help from asking why the gentleman account of serious illness of his mother. league from Tennessee [Mr. GoaE] a from Tennessee [Mr. GoRE] did not call To Mr. THOMAsoN
HOUSE OF. REPRESENTATIVES Resolution 198
