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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THE FIRSTTHE SECOND MEETING MEETING OF THE OF THE FIFTH FIRST SESSION SESSION OF THEOF ELEVENTH THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAYTHURSDAYTUESDAY 13 13 07 NOVEMBER FEBRUARY NOVEMBER 20202018 2018 ENGLISH VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. 192196 DISCLAIMER Unofficial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unofficial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The final edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr. D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. K. C. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 13 FEBRUARY, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) Appropriation 2020/2021 (Bill), 2020 (No.2 of 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...................................................................................................1-32 TABLING OF PAPERS Statutory Instrument No. 15 of 2020 -Hypothecation (Authorised Creditors) (Amendment) Regulations, 2020.......................................................................1 Botswana Unified Revenue Service (BURS) Annual Report, 2018......................................................1 Thursday 13th February, 2020 APPROPRIATION (2020/2021) BILL, 2020 (NO. 2 OF 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate) Thursday 13th February, 2020 interested in taking their services to areas which do not have good roads. So people end up selling petrol in black THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. markets leading to fatalities as they burn inside their (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) houses, and this is a painful and heartbreaking situation. Mr Speaker my request is that, the assessment of the PRAYERS Ncojane-Hukuntsi road should be expedited. Let me not forget the Ncojane-Lokalane road which connects * * * * us to Kang, which is used by trucks as they pass through MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Pray be seated. farms on their way to Metsimantsho to buy cattle. Honourable Members, good afternoon. May we start Other people can also use the road to transport material today’s business with Tabling of Papers. I understand and develop the constituency thus bringing in money. the Minister of Finance and Economic Development has However, this can only happen if those roads are in good a paper to table. condition as this can generate income through tourism. Moreover, the youth can then venture into campsites TABLING OF PAPERS businesses and be able to sustain themselves instead of depending on programmes which are not beneficial to The following paper was tabled: them. Mr Speaker... STATUTORY INSTRUMENT NO. 15 OF MR REATILE: Point of clarification. Thank you Mr 2020 -HYPOTHECATION (AUTHORISED Speaker. Honourable Motsamai, I was saying, looking CREDITORS) (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS, at how you are explaining the issues of Lokalane road, 2020. the Honourable Ministers and Members of Parliament (Minister of Finance and Economic Development) do not understand how many kilometres(km) one would have reduced if they travel to Namibia via the Lokalane MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, road. So, maybe it would be helpful if you could explain I understand that the Minister of Finance and Economic so that the Honourable Members can understand that the Development has another paper to table. road can greatly decrease the distance. BOTSWANA UNIFIED REVENUE SERVICE MR MOTSAMAI: Thank you sir. Other Members do (BURS) ANNUAL REPORT, 2018 not know but P P P knows. Mr Speaker, the intersection between this road and Ncojane road is 199 km, from Later Date. Ncojane to Charles Hill it is 100 km, which is 299 km. If APPROPRIATION (2020/2021) BILL, you do not use that road, I believe from Kang to Ghanzi 2020 (NO. 2 OF 2020) is 280 km , and then you travel 202 km from Ghanzi to Charles Hill, and then from Charles Hill to the border... Second Reading HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)... (Resumed Debate) MR MOTSAMAI: When you use the road, not when MR SPEAKER: Yesterday when the House adjourned, you are going to look for something. Honourable Motsamai was on the floor and has 16 minutes 48 seconds to his credit. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... MR MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): Thank you MR MOTSAMAI: Mr Speaker, that can be useful and Mr Speaker, let me proceed with my debate. Yesterday it can reduce the long distance travels. I touched on a few issues, let me pass through this issue that, the people of Ghanzi South constituency in the Mr Speaker, the Ghanzi South constituents said that a lot areas of Ncojane, Metsimantsho and Ranyane want a of mining pits were surveyed in areas like Masetlheng, road that connects the constituency to Kgalagadi; a road Ncojane, and Metsimantsho and they have been closed. from Ncojane to Kgalagadi or Macheng the reason being So they have sent me to ask the relevant authorities that there are poor roads in that constituency. Recently whether those pits were closed without anything inside, people even