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DISCLAIMER Uno cial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an uno cial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly -- Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly -- Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel -- Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) -- Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. --President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) --Vice President -Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) --Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) --Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) --Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security -Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) --Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) --Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services -Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) --Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) --Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) --Minister of Basic Education -Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology -Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry -Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) --Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

-Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration -Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development -Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development -Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) --Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) --Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) --Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry -Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) --Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

Names Constituency

RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT WEDNESDAY 04 MARCH, 2020

CONTENTS PAGE (S)

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 1-6

COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY

Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill, 2020 (No. 2 of 2020)

Organisation 0700 - Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry Resumed Debate...... 7-8

Organisation 0800-Ministry Of Local Government And Rural Development...... 9-30

Organisation 1800- Ministry of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services...... 31-36

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Wednesday 4th March, 2020 Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development, as the entity mandated by law to THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. resolve issues involving salaries, wages and other (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) labour related matters. I thank you Mr Speaker.

P R A Y E R S MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. In appreciation of your initiatives Honourable * * * * Minister, are we saying Letsholathebe Hospital worker’s scenario will continue beyond March? Are we going to QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER see a situation whereby, by April let us say, you will be LIMITATIONS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF dealing with those workers’ issues within your ministry THE PRIVATE SECURITY SERVICES ACT rather than referring them to Labour?

MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked MR MMUSI: Honourable Member, as you know that the Minister of Defence, Justice and Security to state we are only gazetting, we will only put together a team to if he is aware of limitations in the implementation of do this in the month of April. I will not be honest to you the Private Security Services Act by the Controller of if I say in the month of April. We will attend to matters Security Guards in terms of workers’ protection; and if very quickly once we have put the team together. It is so, to further state: throughout the country and not only in Letsholatshebe. I thank you Mr Speaker. (i) the enhancement capacity initiatives for this particular office; and DEATH OF A YOUNG WOMAN BY A HIPPOPOTAMUS IN OLIPHANT’S DRIFT (ii) if he is aware that workers providing security at Letsholathebe Hospital and other Maun MR M. M. PULE (MOCHUDI EAST): asked Administrative Authority health facilities have not the Minister of Environment, Natural Resources been fully paid since June 2019 and if so; which Conservation and Tourism if she is aware that a mitigating initiatives he has put in place to ensure hippopotamus killed a young woman in Oliphant’s that the security company fully pays its employees. Drift, and if so to state: MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND (i) what action has the Wildlife Department taken SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Afternoon Mr Speaker. about the said hippopotamus as it is very Mr Speaker, I am aware of the limitations the Controller dangerous; and of Security Guards Services has in the implementation of the Private Security Services Act as far as the protection (ii) whether the department has compensated the of workers’ rights are concerned. family.

(i) Mr Speaker, I have signed a Statutory Instrument MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL which will allow for the gazettement of regulations RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM with effect from 9th March, 2020. The implication (MS KERENG): Mr Speaker, good afternoon. of this is that the Private Security Service Licensing Board will be responsible for the implementation (i) Mr Speaker, the Department of Wildlife and of the Act. This includes the specific provisions National Parks office at Mochudi received the th that speaks to promoting the protection and an report on the 25 November, 2019 that a person enforcement of workers’ rights. The board will had been killed by a hippopotamus in Oliphant’s also be fully mandated to ensure the carrying Drift. Immediately, three officers were set off out of inspections to ensure compliance with the to Oliphant’s Drift on the same day to confirm provisions of the Act, that promote workers’ rights and to attend to the report. A patrol team was and welfare, amongst others. immediately dispatched from Mochudi office with an instruction to search and destroy the (ii) Mr Speaker, the matter of the workers at problem hippopotamus as soon as it was sighted. Letsholathebe Hospital who have not been Unfortunately, the hippopotamus has never been fully paid has been referred to the Ministry of found.

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Nevertheless, patrol teams involving Police and if he is aware that complaints from companies that have Botswana Defence Force (BDF) are still patrolling the been awarded Constituency Fund tenders are delaying Oliphant’s Drift area on a monthly basis in search of implementation of constituency projects thus causing such an animal with the intention to put it down once overlapping of projects. found. The community has also been sensitised on various forums on precautions to be taken to avoid Later Date. encountering the same incident including during the PROGRESS ON THE TOURISM PROJECT AT funeral. A brief was held with the Village Development THUNE DAM Committee (VDC) on the 1st December, 2019. Another briefing as we continue to update communities and give MR T. B. LUCAS (BOBONONG): asked the Minister them more information is planned for 4th March, 2020 of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation and and a spot announcement made on 3rd March, 2020. Tourism to state: These sensitisations Mr Speaker also involved balemi (i) the progress with regard to the tourism project at ba masimo and the fishermen around the area. Thune Dam; (ii) Mr Speaker, my ministry has compensated the (ii) if the progress recorded in respect of the Thune bereaved family with an amount of P70 000.00 tourism related projects is satisfactory; within which P20 000.00 directed for funeral nd expenses and this was done on 22 January, 2020. (iii) the anticipated completion timelines for key Thank you Mr Speaker. milestones in the evolution of these particular tourism projects. MR NKAWANA: Supplementary. Ke botse Honourable Minister gore, ka gore ba dikgwedi dintsi ba batla hippo MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL ba sa e bone, a letsatsi le ba tlaa kopanang le hippo RESOURCES CONSERVATION AND TOURISM nngwe le nngwe, ba ya go e bolaya? Ba ya go itse jang (MS KERENG): Thank you Mr Speaker. The gore ke yone e e neng e bolaya motho? Honourable Member’s questions, I think there is a MS KERENG: Thank you Mr Speaker. The latest different motive for asking the similar question every information I got about the hippos is that, they are eight day. This is the last one I will respond to. I will have to right now, they had been identified. That one could be take him to the table. probably one of them and it is true that it would not be easier this time to identify which one exactly is the (i) Mr Speaker, the development of the Tourism culprit. As we continue to manage the situation in terms Master Plan and Strategic Environmental of patrols, we believe that we are in touch with control Assessment (SEA) for the area was completed of the situation. Thank you Mr Speaker. in November 2017 and 98 per cent of property MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary. Thank you very owners affected by the proposed dam lease area much Mr Speaker. Minister, you mentioned that you extension had been compensated by November compensated the family ka P70 000.00; P20 000.00 2018. The remaining property owners had going towards the funeral. I just want to find out what requested a re-assessment, which was completed formula you used to come to that particular figure of in February 2020. The next stage in the process P70 000.00? Is that a standard figure or you do some is the consultation and hopefully the finalisation calculations? of the compensation of the remaining property MS KERENG: Thank you Mr Speaker. There are owners. guidelines and calculations. There is a system that is The Bobonong Sub Land Board had put forth used to calculate the figures that are used. I would not compensation of affected property owners as a condition be able to say exactly what formula it is, but I can find for approval of the dam lease extension gore fa ba sa out for you. Thank you Mr Speaker. sute foo, the extension will not be effected. Therefore, conclusion of the compensation process will lead to the DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION OF approval of the lease area extension. The design and CONSTITUENCY PROJECTS construction of bulk and basic infrastructure to support MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the tourism development will be done after conclusion Minister of Local Government and Rural Development of the lease area extension process. The process of

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surveying tourism zones identified in the Master Plan daily to ferry water from Werda, which is approximately will be done after concluding the lease area extension 36 kilometres from the Makopong Reservoirs. The process in preparation for disposal to potential investors. water bowsers average seven loads per day resulting The disposal of tourism zones through open tender will in an augmentation of 0.084 million litres per day. The be done after surveying of the zones. water is bowsed into Makopong Reservoir which is interconnected to the Draaihoek Transfer Scheme by a (ii) Mr Speaker, the progress is not satisfactory as booster pump located at Makopong Reservoir site. This the Member has indicated, however the delays in the reservoir is able to transmit bowsed water amounting to implementation have been due to the need to conclude 0.056 million litres per day to Makopong and 0.028 to compensations and subsequently the extension of the Draaihoek. lease area before design, construction and disposal of the sites. Briefly, the anticipated completion timelines Mr Speaker, in addition to the gravity supply, or us for key milestones in the evolution of this project are providing the supply at Makopong Wellfield, the bowsers as follows; I have the plan that I can share with the are also deployed on alternate days to deliver water to Member later. high lying areas of the Makopong and Draihoek villages (Thaga and Rolong wards in Makopong and Phepheng WATER SHORTAGE AT MAKOPONG- ward in Draihoek) which are unable to receive water DRAAIHOEK VILLAGE due to low pressures.

MR S. J. BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): asked (ii) Mr Speaker, the total cost for bowsing water to the Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Makopong-Draaihoek between August 2019 and Services to state: January 2020 and associated costs is Five Hundred (i) if he is aware of the water shortage at Makopong- and Twenty-Seven Thousand, Eight Hundred and Draaihoek villages and when he will provide them Forty Pula, Eighteen Thebe (P527, 840.18) which with water; includes fuel consumption, subsistence allowance and overtime accrued amounting by the three (ii) the cost of water bowsing from August 2019 to drivers. January 2020; and (iii) Mr Speaker, it is worth noting that there are three (iii) the cost of the project if water was to be connected unutilized boreholes which have a total yield of to these villages. 0.24 million litres per day which could be utilized MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER to supply Makopong and Draaihoek. Mr Speaker, AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): however there is no funding at the present moment Thank you Mr Speaker. for this, but Water Utilities Corporation (WUC) has therefore proposed a project for the design and (i) My ministry is aware of water shortages in the construction of a Booster station at Werda, a 0.002 villages of Makopong-Draaihoek. Mr Speaker, million litres collector tank on top of plinths and a Makopong village is supplied from two low pipeline from Werda to Makopong. The estimated yielding boreholes being BH8808 and BH8809 cost for the project is P120 million. yielding 0.032 million litres per day and 0.048 million litres respectively. The total supply from There is also a proposed project to expand the Werda the boreholes is 0.08 million litres per day against Wellfield which is at conceptualization stage. The an average demand of 0.149 and the deficit is 0.069 estimated cost of the project is P17 million for million litres per day. Draaihoek is supplied from exploration and drilling of 10 additional boreholes. I an independent borehole BH5081 which yields thank you Mr Speaker. 0.04 million litres per day against the demand of MR BROOKS: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker, 0.084 million litres per day, resulting in a supply thank you Honourable Minister. Minister, le ikaeletse deficit of 0.044. to go and address leng batho ba motse wa Makopong- Water bowsing is undertaken to mitigate the supply Draaihoek, ka maikaelelo a lona a gore le na le deficit. Three water bowsers each with a carrying kakanyetso ya go ba gokela metsi kwa ntle ga kgwetlho capacity of 0.012 million litres individually are deployed ya letlhoko la madi? Thank you.

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MR MZWINILA: We have intentions with two Government ministries including my ministry which projects both of which have not been funded, the first owns four of old unused prefabricated portable cabins one is P120 million and it has not been funded, the other at New Xade, Village Development Committee (VDC) one is P17 million, it has not been funded. We are in the tannery and storeroom at Karakubis, VDC tannery at process of communicating our needs in terms of how New Xanagas and a Community Hall in West Hanahai. we can see or where we can get this money, but at the present moment, we do not have it. Mr Speaker, I am equally worried about the abandonment of Government buildings countrywide, Ghanzi As to when we will go and communicate with the inclusive. As such, I will, in collaboration with the residents of these two villages, we will go expeditiously Ministry of Infrastructure and Housing, cause holistic as possible. I thank you Mr Speaker. assessment of all abandoned buildings to determine their structural stability and usability, hence assist us to make UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THAMAGA- an informed decision on their usage and/or disposal. MOLEPOLOLE ROAD (A11) Furthermore, the Public Asset Management Policy will MR P. K. MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA- be implemented to ensure effective management and KUMAKWANE): asked the Minister of Transport and efficient use of public assets including identification Communications to update this Honourable House on and recording of physical assets and their valuation, the status of Thamaga-Molepolole road (A11) and what maintenance and disposal. I thank you Mr Speaker. is being done about it. MR MOTSAMAI: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke ne MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND ke re Minister gongwe a tlhalose gore ka ke moo a re COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Mr o aware, o lebega a tlaa tsaya nako e e kae to go and Speaker, the Thamaga-Molepolole road was constructed attend bothata jo re leng mo go jone? in 2001 and 2003 and it is one of the roads which have Ya bofelo ke gore a o simolola go utlwa ka nna gore go reached their lifespan and need reconstruction. na le dikago tse dintsintsi kwa Ghanzi South tse di sa Mr Speaker, my ministry had actually submitted a tender dirisiweng kana ga a a bolo go utlwa ba ne ba ntse ba for the rehabilitation of the road, and as at January 2020, ipaakanya gore ba ye kana ba ne ba ntse fela? submitted a cancellation for that tender. The reasons for MR AUTLWETSE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker, ke a submitting that cancellation was that on inspection in 2019, it was noticed that the road had deteriorated such leboga Honourable Member. Ga ke na gore ke ka tlhalosa that rehabilitation was inappropriate. Mr Speaker, we gore go tlaa tsaya nako e e kae gore re bo re setse re are awaiting the response of Public Procurement and diragaditse se ke se buang se, ka gore jaaka fa ke ne ke Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) and I have prepared bua in the body of my answer, ke tiro e e amang maphata documents for an asphalt overlay on the road. I thank a le mantsi, ga e ame Ministry wa Local Government you Mr Speaker. and Rural Development fela. Some of the buildings ke tsa Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security, Ministry CONSIDERATION ON THE DEMOLITION OF of Agricultural Development and Food Security and UNINHABITED AND UNUSED STRUCTURES IN Ministry of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture GHANZI SOUTH CONSTITUENCY Development. Ka jalo, go raya gore jaaka fa ke ne ke bua, go tlaa re re tle re kopane, mme ga ke itse gore MR M. G. J. MOTSAMAI (GHANZI SOUTH): bokopano jo bo tlaa diragala leng, ka gore le bone ba na asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural le tse dingwe tse ba tshwaraganyeng le tsone ba di dira. Development if he will consider demolishing all uninhabited and unused structures in settlements in Sa bobedi potso ya mokaulengwe o ne a botsa gore, a Ghanzi South Constituency as they now serve as havens ke lantlha kgang e ke e utlwa kana ke selo se re ntseng for criminal syndicates. re itse? Ke selo se re ntseng re se itse. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. (MR AUTLWETSE): Mr Speaker, I am aware that there are unused structures in Ghanzi South MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Last Constituency. These structures belong to various supplementary Honourable Motsamai.

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MR MOTSAMAI: Supplementary. Minister, ga o itse ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND gore le tlaa ya to attend seemo se leng, ka mabaka a gore WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Mr Speaker, se ama maphata a mangwe. Dikago tse dingwe tse ke we have one company that we engaged as a security buang ka tsone tse, di na le bo 30 years di sa dirisiwe, company in his constituency. So, we will be able to le gompieno jaana o ntse ga o itse after 30 years, le tlaa answer. ya leng to attend to seemo sele, kana tse di go amang wena, when are you going to attend to them o tlogele ba MR SPEAKER: Please go ahead. bangwe Tona, ga o itse? MR LELATISITSWE: I think we can forget about MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker... the name for now. Mr Speaker, my ministry through Ngami District Health Management has engaged the HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... said security company to provide security services in various health posts and clinics in Ngami. The company MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, jaanong ke tsheko. has been paid regularly with the expectation that its Ke tlhalositse gore dikago tse, ga ke ka ke ka mo ganetsa employees are also paid on time. However, the company gore tse dingwe ga di na bo 30 years, e ka tswa e le has been summoned several times by the management boammaaruri, e ka tswa e se boammaaruri. Se se leng for failure to adhere to contract service elements with teng, thulaganyo ke gore fa re sena go nna re kopana le no improvement. Ke tsaya gore wa Justice o reeditse ba Assets and Disposable Board go tlaa bonwa gore go le ene. dirwa gotweng ka tsone, ka gore ke tsa Puso ga se tsa ga semangmang. Ke tsa setšhaba ga se tsa ga semangmang. Mr Speaker, my ministry is not happy with the services Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. provided by this security company. The District Health Management Team (DHMT) has submitted UNPAID WAYGUARD SECURITY SERVICE the recommendation for termination to Ministerial EMPLOYEES IN NGAMI CONSTITUENCY Tender Committee (MTC). My ministry has signed the contractual obligation with this company to provide full MR K. C. HIKUAMA (NGAMI): asked the Minister protection to Government facilities and render quality of Health and Wellness if he is aware that some of the service to the clinic, clients and patients hence it has employees of Way Guard Security Service deployed been evident that the company is unable to execute at various health posts and clinics in the Ngami the quality service or adhere to the service element. Constituency have not been paid their monthly salaries Therefore, the recommendation for termination is an since August 2019; and if so to state: effort to try and curtail the situation. Thank you Mr (i) the cause of delay and when they will be paid; Speaker, thank you Honourable Member.

(ii) the justification of continuing with such a company MR KEKGONEGILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr that seems not to recognise and respect the rights Speaker. If my memory serves me well, this particular of its workers; and company received a termination letter in November/ December last year, and the termination letter was (iii) if such unpaid and unsatisfied workers can provide full protection to Government facilities and render immediately withdrawn. Is it true Honourable Minister, quality service to clinic clients and patients. and why was the termination withdrawn by then?

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Hikuama. The second question, you are on the edge of terminating this company, but it is owing workers from June/May MR HIKUAMA: Thank you Honourable Speaker, 2019 up to now. In terminating this company, how is Question 9, but I do not know gore go dirwa jang, ka your ministry going to protect the workers in terms gore there is an error in the question. Ke rile Jay Guard of their terminal benefits, of their dues as salaries and Services not Way Guard. Jaanong ga ke itse gore a e wages that they are owed up to now? tsamaya fela jalo e gatisiwe e le Way Guard kana Jay Guard. MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you Honourable Member. Ga ke na bosupi ka gore ba ne ba kwaletswe MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister of Health lekwalo la termination last year towards the end, but I and Wellness, are you able to answer the question as can make follow up on that. The last part of your question indicated by the Honourable Member? is, kana rona re le ministry we have a contractual

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obligation le rakonteraka, ene o na le konteraka le le nako re a ba bitsa re nna le bua le bone ka dikgang tse babereki. Tota dikgang tse di ntseng jalo ke tse di ka gore, they guard dikago tsa rona, if they are not paid fa bong di arabiwa ke Rre Balopi, gore jaanong fa le sa gongwe ba kgona go tsamaya bosigo ba tlogela dikago duelane ka kwa, gone go tsamaela fa kae. Rona like we tseo di sa sireletsega; dithoto tsa Puso. The bottom part say as a ministry, we paid the contractor well in time, ke gore ke a kgathala ka gore le mo dikgaolong tsa rona, but as we stand konteraka ya rona is between him and security officers ga ba duelwe ka nako. us. Ene le babereki, dikgang tsa teng tota ke tsa Ministry wa Labour. Jaanong, di a re pitlaganya mongwame, CABINET COMMITTEE SET UP TO mme fela go maswabi ke tsone dikgang tsa dikonteraka DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF AIR tsa Batswana tse re di bonang di diragala. O a mo duela, BOTSWANA ene o ya go reka Range Rover. MS T. MONNAKGOTLA (KGALAGADI NORTH): HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary Mr asked the Minister of Transport and Communications: Speaker. (i) to explain to this Honourable House if there was MR SPEAKER: Last supplementary. ever a Cabinet Committee set up in 2015/16 to determine the future of Air Botswana; and if so, MR KAPINGA: Supplementary. Minister, ke botsa who were members of the Committee; gore ka ke lona le hirileng motho yo, fa konteraka ya (ii) who was the head of the Cabinet Committee and lona e fela, a wa re ga gona dikgato dipe tse le ka di how did it engage the General Manager of Air tsayang gore le tlhomamise gore babereki fa konteraka Botswana; ya lona le rre yoo e fela, ba kgone go bona sengwenyana, gona le gore o re ba ye kwa Labour Department? Gape, (iii) what type of aircraft was proposed at the time and a ga o lemoge gore kgang e o e buang eo e supa go why it was not procured and instead a different tlhoka kutlwelobothoko mo babereking, insensitivity ya make was purchased. gago o le Tona o itse ka fa babereki ba sokodisiwang ka Later Date. teng ke bahiri ba bone. PLANS TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND PRIMARY MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Honourable SCHOOL AT RAMOKGONAMI VILLAGE Member. Ke dumela gore rona re le ministry re a bo re DR K. GOBOTSWANG (SEFHARE- dirile our part ya go duela rakonteraka ka nako. Jaaka RAMOKGONAMI): asked the Minister of Local ke buile, kana fa re na le konteraka le company, rona re Government and Rural Development if he is aware ntsha madi re na le tumelo ya gore ene o tlaa fetisetsa that Ramokgonami Primary School has one of the kwa babereking. Ga re na that extension ya gore re ka highest teacher-pupil ratios; and if so, to state whether fetela le ka kwa babereking… there are plans to construct a second primary school at HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… Ramokgonami village.

MR LELATISITSWE: Nnyaa rraetsho, ke a kgathala ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL ka gore bangwe ke masika a me, kana wena ba gago ga GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT ba yo mo Botswana. Ke a kgathala ka gore bangwe ke (MR AUTLWETSE): Mr Speaker, I am aware that masika a me… Ramokgonami Primary School has one of the highest teacher-pupil ratios but comparatively, it is not in a bad HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… state like other schools in the constituency and Central District. There are no plans to construct a second primary MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a kgathala thata ka gore ke school at Ramokgonami village but may be considered bone ba ba berekang kwa go tsone dikompone tse. Tota along other priorities to alleviate this problem. I thank ke sone se ke buang gore, kana dikompone tse jaaka o you Mr Speaker. bona re kwadile gore re kwaletse MTC, le Ministry wa Defence gore re emise konteraka e ka gore fa dikompone MR SALESHANDO: Supplementary. A Tona a re tsa security di sa itshware ka fa e tshwanetseng go na tlhalosetse gore ka gore o dumalana le gore sekole se se le ka fa e leng gore they can be blacklisted kana ba ba na le one of the highest teacher-pupil ratios, mathata ao tseela dikgato ka teng. Ke a kgathala rraetsho thata, nako le ikaelela go a rarabolola jang?

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MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, mathata ao re tlaa ka Doing Business, Trade Act le Environmental Impact a rarabolola fa seemo sa madi se letla gore re ka a Assessment (EIA). Tsotlhe tse ke tse di tsamaelanang le rarabolola. Mo nakong ya gompieno jaaka ke ne ke Doing Business. Ke a tlhaloganya batlotlegi mme e bile bua, go na le tse e leng gore seemo sa tsone se befile go ke a dumela gore mo go lebeleleng seemo sa rona sa feta sa Ramokgonami jaaka kwa Chadibe, Letlhakane, gore bagwebi ba kgone go gweba sentle le gore itsholelo Tsetsebjwe, Khwee, Xhosa, Motetshwane le Lesenepole e kgone go tsamaya sentle, re fetisitse melao. Go na le tse di tlaa tlang pele ga Ramokgonami. Di dintsinyana tse re di dirang mme ke dumalana le bone gore go santse Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke raya gore ke supe fela gore re go na le tiro e re tshwanetseng go e dira. E bile re tlaa a itse mme se fa o se tshwantshanya le tse dingwe, go tswelela re ntse re lebelela dikgoreletsi fa di leng teng, santse go na le bokankabetso. Ke a leboga. re dirisanya le ba mohama o o ikemetseng ka nosi, re bona gore bothata bo fa kae mme re ka thusa jang. MR SALESHANDO: Further supplementary. Tona, a molaetsa wa gago kwa Mapalamenteng a a emetseng Kgang e nngwe e e neng e buiwa ke gore tse dingwe fa dikgaolo tse di nang le dikole tseo ke gore ba ye go itsise re di dira re le ka kwano mo Central Government, o kare ba ga bone ka gore ga gona nako e e beilweng, gore it ba re dirisanyang le bone, ba ba re thusang go diragatsa is business as usual? Ka knowledge-based economy, ba tse re di akanyang le melao e e fetang, ba ba kwa eme pele. Le tlaa tla le ba bona nako nngwe fa le bone dikgaolong kana local authorities, mo gongwe o tlaa madi go tokafatsa seemo sa dikole gore se ba fe thuto ya fitlhela o kare ba tsamaya ba saletse kwa morago. Ke maemo a a tshwanetseng. A ke yone kopo ya gago kwa dingwe tse re tsamayang re ntse re di lebeletse le Tona Mapalamenteng a dikgaolo tseo gore ba ise molaetsa oo Molale ka maphata a gagwe ka go farologana go bona go tswa kwa go wena? gore re ka tokafatsa jang tirisanyo mmogo le gore kwa bofelong jwa letsatsi, ba re ba thusang, ba bone thuso MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, with due respect, e e botoka, e re nnang re tswelela re ntse re baakanya. karabo e rre a reng ke ba e rome, ga se ya me. Ba ka e ithoma, e seng gore ba rongwe ke nna. E bile ga ke Gatwe Trade Act e fetile mme motlotlegi o ne a supa itse gore o raya ene le bomang. Ka fa ke itseng ka teng, gore go ya ka ene o ne a tsaya gore e ka bo e setse e ke tlhalositse gore funds permitting, seemo se se tlaa diragaditswe (implemented). Ke tlhalose gore kana tsibogelwa. Gore it is business as usual, moo ke maikutlo molao fa o sena go nna o dirwa, go na le melawana a gagwe mme kana ga ke ka ke ka ntsha motlotlegi mo (regulations) e e tshwanetseng e bo e le teng gore molao go one fa e le gore ke one a a huparetseng. oo jaanong o tle o diragale. Ka jalo, e rile nako e re neng re dira molao o, re ne re setse re simolotse go dira ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE regulations. Fa molao o sena go nna o feta, go bo go na le dingwe tse di tshwanetseng go wela. Ke sone se (CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) mo statement ke ne ke tlhalosa gore regulations tse, re APPROPRIATION (2020/2021) BILL, solofela gore jaaka re le mo go March jaana, pele ga a 2020 (NO. 2 OF 2020) wela, di tlaabo di le teng gore ka April molao o bo o tsena mo tirisong. ORGANISATION 0700 - MINISTRY OF Go bo go nna le ya EIA gore ka reng ka yone o kare INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY ke sengwe se se kgoreletsang. Kwa Paragraph 19, re (Resumed Debate) buile ka yone EIA le go supa gore mo godimo ga go fetisa melao, go na le tse dingwe reforms tse re neng MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): Order! ra di lebelela tse di fetisitsweng ka November ngwaga Order! Honourable Members, when the House adjourned o ne re tswa mo go one. Nngwe ya one eo e le one yesterday, Honourable Minister of Investment, Trade o o tsamaelanang le EIA. Re ne re dumela gore re and Industry was on the floor replying to your debates. ye go kopa Tona yo o maleba gore molao o a kgone She was left with 15 minutes 15 seconds. gore dilo dingwe a di ise kwa maphateng a mangwe, e re motho kwa a leng teng, ba kgone go diragatsa se MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND se tshwanetseng go diragala, a thusa gore go tle go INDUSTRY (MS SERAME): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. tlhofofale e bile go nne bofefo. Ke dumedisa batlotlegi botlhe. Ke ne ke setse ke amile dintlha tse dingwe maabane. Ke tswelela, go ne go na Sengwe e le gape gore le ka gakologelwa batlotlegi le dikakgelo tse dintsi tsa batlotlegi tse ba neng ba bua gore mo nakong e e fetileng, EIA e ne e kgona go tsaya

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bo three years. Jaanong re dumalana gore go ya kwa batho ba kgone gore ba di reke, ka gore nako e nngwe pele, re batla gore motho fa a tlisa se a se tlisang gore se e a re fa ba sa reke mo gae ba bo ba re ne ba sa itse sekasekwe, go nne le nako e ba e dumalanang gore, mo gore dilo tseo di teng. Go na le tse dingwe tse go neng nakong e, re tlaabo re go file phetolo gore motho a se ka gotwe ga ke bue sepe ka tsone, ke re tse dingwe jaaka a nna fela dingwaga di feta, dikgwedi e nna dingwaga; privatisation le procurement ke tse di welang ka kwa dingwaga tsa bo tsa nna tse pedi kana tharo. Ke sengwe Ministry of Finance and Economic Development, mme se se dumalanweng. Go feta foo ka EIA ka gore ke itse ke tlhalose gore ke dumalana le lona batlotlegi gore le e le sengwe se se ntseng se tshwenya thata, molao wa fa di ka bo di le koo, le nna ke le wa Peeletso, Papadi teng le one o mo tshekatshekong; the EIA Act is being le Madirelo, ke a kgathala ka tsone, mme ke eletsa gore reviewed. O lebeletswe, o a sekwasekwa go bona gore go tsamae ka bofefo. Ka jalo he, re bereka thata le ba go tlhofofadiwe; re se ka ra thatafaletsa batho tse ba Lephata la Madi go bona gore di ka dirwa jang. Yone neng ba ntse ba di dira. ya procurement fela jaaka le ne le e bua, molao o wa procurement o bontsi jwa nako re dumelang gore ke one Ke dumela gore ya Botswana Development Corporation o o re bofileng matsogo, o a sekasekwa, ka gore le nna (BDC) ya gore ba dira jang ke ne ke e arabile maabane. ke a dumela, o nkgamile tota le bagwebi, gore go na le Kwa paragraph 57 fa ke ne ke bua ka BDC e ne e le go dilo dingwe tse re dumelang gore di tshwanetse gore di supa gore, mo nakong e re yang kwa pele, jaaka bangwe baakanngwe. batlotlegi ba ne ba supa, BDC e tshwanetse gore as an investment arm of Government, ba kgone go dira Go bo go nna le ya leather park, gore o kare re tsere dipeeletso mo boemong jwa ga Goromente. Ba beeletse nako e telele, ke a dumalana. E tsere nako e telele ka mo Botswana le kwa mafatsheng a mangwe. Ba lebelele gore re sale re simolola go bua ka yone ka 2012, mme go mehama e mengwe e e nang le maduo a a rileng, ba kgone botlhokwa gore ke tlhalosetse Ntlo e gore le fa go tsere go beeletsa, gore le rona re bone dipoelo. E le bone ba re nako e kana, le nna ke dumela gore ke ne ke solofetse ba romileng. Batlotlegi, ka gore ke dumela gore ke ne ke gore gompieno leather park e tshwanetse e ka bo e setse le tlhaloganya gore BDC fa e le gore e tshwanetse gore e e emeletse, go ne go na le dilo di le dintsi tse di neng di dire tiro e, a madi a ba nang le one a lekanye. Ke dumela diragala mo dingwageng tse tsotlhe. Sengwe se re ileng gore re tlaa boa re tla go nna fa fatshe jaanong re bua ka ra patelesega go se dira ke gore, e ne e re fa re setse re BDC e le nosi, gore se ba se akantseng jaaka re dumela re re a tswelela, mo gongwe ra patelesega go boela kwa morago re ya go lebelela gape the business model. Fa re gore ke yone tsela e ba tshwanetseng go e tsaya, go ya simolola go na le batho ba private sector ba re kopanang kwa pele re tsamaya jang. le bone re dira mmogo. Fa re tla re kopana re nna le bone Go nnile le batlotlegi ba le mmalwa ba e neng e re ba ema fa fatshe, ba re bolelela gore o model go ya kwa pele o ba kopa Special Economic Zones Authority (SEZA), ba kare go tla pala, a re boe re sekaseke sesha, mme dilo bangwe diofisi tsa Citizen Entrepreneurial Development tseo tsotlhe ra di dira. Ke tlhalose gape gore go na le a Agency (CEDA), ba bangwe SPEDU, le tse dingwe. steering committee e e ntseng all these years e le teng go Mme ke re batlotlegi, gone re lebelela lefatshe la lebelelela tiro e ya leather park, Ministry of Agricultural Botswana lotlhe go lebelela gore re isa ditlamelo jang Development and Food Security o mo teng; Botswana kwa bathong. Re tsamaya re lebelela gore ke ditsela Meat Commission (BMC) jaanong kgang e ya matlalo, dife tse dingwe tse re ka di lebelelang, ka gore go fa le gore BMC fa e nna privatised go ya go dirwa eng, ke motho thuso ga se go aga building, kwa re sa kgoneng sengwe se se mo tafoleng, se a buisanwa. Se sengwe go ya go aga teng le go baya batho ba nna foo, re tlaa se se leng teng mo paakanyetsong ya leather park, bona ditsela. Go na le mo gongwe mo re a tleng re dire ke dithutuntsho le go buisana le batho. Sengwe se se satellite le mobile offices fa e le gore seemo se santse se tlaabong se le teng ke collection points tsa matlalo, ka sa re letle gore re nne le branch gone koo. Go na le tse gore mo gae mo Botswana, re ja nama ya kgomo, podi, dingwe tse go ne gotwe batho ga ba itse tse di lekanyeng ya eng, mme ba bangwe re latlha matlalo ka gore re ntse ka one mananeo a rona. Re na le tse di bidiwang re sa itse gore tota a ka re busetsa sepe. Jalo he go tlaabo outreach programmes, bo metlhalayakhumo, le tse go na le kwa matlalo a kgobokanyediwang teng, a bo dingwe re dirisa media platforms, re na le “PushaBW,” a ka tsewa a isiwa kwa leather park. Go ya kwa pele, tse re di dirisang go ruta Batswana ka tse di dirwang go setse go na le bangwe ba re buisanang le bone ba ba mo Botswana, le gore what is available. Le gore dilo dirisang letlalo thata, ba ba nang le kgatlhego ya gore tse ke tsone re lekang go di tsenya mo mmarakeng gore ba utlwe gore re gaufi jaanong ka leather park, go bona

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gore letlalo le ba ka le tsaya ba dira dilo tsa tlhwatlhwa neng o e mpoditse e ne e le ya electric car, in your own e e rileng, tse ba di dirisang mo process ya bone jaaka words o ne o re, “was it a joke?” nnyaa motlotlegi, e ba dira manufacturing. ne e se matshamekwane. Ke sone se o bonang even in the manifesto wa Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) Textile ke tsaya gore ke ne ke fetile ka yone maabane, e le teng, ke tlaa go o adima, mo page 17. E ne e se gore re santse re dumela gore ke boammaaruri ke matshamekwane. Potso ya gago tota e ne e le gore ke mongwe mohama o o kgonang go dira ditiro. O e bile eng ke sa bua ka yone? Ke tlhalose gore fa o re ke tla gantsi o tsenwang ke bomme, banana le ditlhopha tse dira selo, ke dumela gore ka gore you were quoting dingwe tse di faphegileng. Re dumela gore fa o lebelela Tautona maabane o re a o ne a tshameka, o ne a sa re e textile, ga o ka ke wa e latlha fela o re ka gore e paletswe tlaa re ka March 2020 koloi ya motlakase e bo e setse e in the past, ga re ka ke ra tlhola re boela teng. Motho dirilwe mo Botswana. Ke go tlhomamisetsa fela gore re mongwe o kile a re, go tshwana le o na le bana ba le four ntse re dira dipaakanyo tse di tshwanetseng gore di nne mo lelwapeng, yo mongwe fails Standard Seven, ga o in place, mme koloi ya motlakase yone e tlile go dirwa ka ke wa ya go ntsha bana mo sekoleng o re ka gore yo mo Botswana. mongwe failed Standard Seven. O tshwanetse gore o bone gore yo o paletsweng yole mathata a gagwe e ne HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso. e le eng, o bone gore o ka mo thusa jang. O se ka wa boelela se o neng o se dirile ka yole, fa e le gore o ne o MS SERAME: Ga ke na nako Modulasetilo. Ke kopa go leboga batlotlegi botlhe ka dikakgelo le dipotso tsa na le seabe. Ke tlhalositse gore textile ga re ka ke ra e bone. Ba ke sa kgonang go ba araba in full ke tlaa tswelela lebelela fela e le bophara, re tshwanetse ra ya go lebelela ke ntse ke ba araba kwa teeng le jaaka ba tsamaya ba re bo re tsaya tse re di ithutileng mo nakong e re tswang botsa e le dipotso. Kwa bofelong ke ba leboge thata le mo go yone, gore ke eng se re sa se dirang sentle, go kemo nokeng ya bone, mme Modulasetilo ke re, I now ya kwa pele how can they be supported and it must move. Mr Chairperson, I therefore move that the sum be different from sepe se re se dirileng in the past. Ke of One Billion, Sixty-Five Million, Sixteen Thousand, tlhalositse gore le ba re buisanang le bone ba dikgwebo, Nine Hundred and Ten Pula (P1 065 016 910) under go na le ba re setseng re bona se ba kgonang go se reka the Recurrent Budget and the sum of Seventy Million, mo bathong ba rona, especially ba retail ke bone ba Nine Hundred and Fifty Thousand Pula (P70 950 000) in the textile sector ba re ntseng re buisana le bone. E under the Development Budget for Organisation 0700 bile go na le dikompone tse di setseng di tlhophilwe, ba in the schedule of the Appropriation Bill 2020/2021 tlaabo ba ba thusa, ba ba supegetsa gore re batla se o se be approved and stand part of the estimates for the dira jaana, ba bo ba ka reka mo go bone ba le mo gae. financial year 2020/2021. I move accordingly. I thank you Mr Chairperson. Modulasetilo, ke tsamaela kwa motsubong, Ke boditswe gore, ke eng ke sa kgone to commit gore re ka duela ka Question put and agree to.. bofefo jo bo kae? Ke re parastatals mo go bone go nna motlhofo go na le maphata fela a a mo go Goromente, ORGANISATION 0800-MINISTRY OF ka gore go na le issues tsa bo automation, link le GABS LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL jalojalo. Parastatals ke rile ba ye go itlama botlhe, gore DEVELOPMENT e tle e re next time fa ke boela mo Palamenteng e ke bo ke kgona go tla go bua gore botlhe ba dira eng. Mme MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, you are gompieno ba le four out of ba ba leng teng already ba requested to note that 2 hours, 25 minutes have been setse ba tsere challenge ya go duela within 24 hours. So allocated to this organization, and I shall call upon the ba le four they are already doing that. Ke buile le bone Honourable Minister to reply to the debates at 16:55 gore go tswa fa go ya kwa pele, ke batla gore fa ke boa hours today, and the question shall be put at 17:25 hours ke bo ke re botlhe ba kgonne. Le ya maphata, go na le tse di tlhokafalang gore di diragale pele ga ke ka tla go MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND itlama mo Palamenteng ke re, nnyaa kwa ministry o re RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Thank tlaa dira jaana, ka gore ga ke batle go tloga ke sa direle you Mr Chairperson. I must preface my statement batlotlegi sentle. by saying that I have had the opportunity to give the Members here, a whole week to read what I am going to Honourable Leader of the Opposition, ke dumela gore present, because I gave them on Thursday. I would not tse dingwe tse ke setse ke di arabile. Ya bofelo e o read all the paragraphs, I will just state a few paragraphs

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for points of emphasis and then give them two hours to Revenue Support Grant. The local authorities provide talk about this ministry, which they love so much. a range of services that matter a lot in the daily lives of citizens. These include (but not limited to); commercial Mr Chairperson, it is my pleasure to present to this services such as business licensing and inspections, Honourable Committee, the 2020/2021 Recurrent social services, primary schools maintenance, waste and Development Budget for the Ministry of Local management, district development planning that Government and Rural Development, Head 0800. I am drives Local Economic Development (LED), village requesting the total sum of Eight Billion, Four Hundred development programmes, as well as support to the and One Million, Five Hundred and Seven Thousand, Village/Ward Development Committees. Seven Hundred and Eight Pula (P8, 401, 507, 708.00) out of which Seven Billion, One Hundred and Forty-Nine Mr Chairperson, that which has to be accepted is Million, Five Hundred and One Thousand, Six Hundred that; services and programme delivery at the local and Ten Pula (P7, 149, 501, 610.00) is for the Recurrent level has been slow, and the impact is minimal. The Budget and One Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Two fact that monitoring and evaluation has not been as Million, Six Thousand and Ninety-Eight Pula (Million, comprehensive as one would have liked, allows one P1, 252, 006,098.00) is for the Development Budget. to present them argue that improved monitoring of implementation has to be the order of the day. As a prelude to my presentation, I request to bring to the attention of the Members that I have attached Annexes One key characteristic of improved implementation A and B, which are an indication of how we have had is concerted coordination of development for greater in the current year that is coming to an end, with regard impact. In other words, one of my ministry’s priorities to the amounts that we have voted for my ministry. will be to implement as urgently as possible, a local As I do so Mr Chairperson, I am cognizant of the four level monitoring and evaluation framework, commonly national policy priorities of promotion of export-led referred to as village scorecard. growth, ensuring more efficient Government spending and financing, which is core to the issues around local The objectives of the framework among other authorities, building human capital and provision of things are to; assess the delivery and availability of appropriate infrastructure which have been infused into selected Government services to citizens, to generate my presentation. information that facilitates evidence-based planning and timely responses to service delivery challenges, as rd In his presentation, Honourable Matsheka on the 3 well as facilitating the participation of the public in the February 2020, indicated in the Budget Speech that the evaluation of services that were provided. budget proposals for this coming year, will be the first deliberate effort to align the budget to the transformation Mr Chairperson, this is the first step to improve agenda Honourable Saleshando. In an effort to achieve coordination at the local level. I will be engaging the this, my ministry identified priority areas such as Minister of Finance and Economic Development, as improving service delivery, effective social protection well as the Auditor General on this matter, with a view programmes, maintenance of public infrastructure, to ensuring that we get value for money in our service prompt payment to service providers/suppliers, as delivery offering and eliminate wastage. well as provision of Information and Communications Technology (ICT) infrastructure and equipment to Mr Chairperson, the other priority is that of primary schools and Dikgotla. These are in line with strengthening, streamlining and making more efficacious the proposals from Mid-Term-Review priorities. The our social protection programmes, these are well budget will therefore be a transitional one, which may known. In collaboration with the World Bank and the not necessarily fully fund these priorities, as we are United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), my still completing what we started before the Mid-Term- ministry has embarked on a project to harmonise these Review. However, circumstances dictate that sizeable social protection programmes as a means of ensuring resources are provided to my ministry in the future to more efficient Government spending and financing, as meet these priorities, as they are about meeting the basic alluded to by Honourable Matsheka. A National Social necessities of life. Protection Framework is therefore being developed. The bulk of the funding that I stand here to request A Single Social Registry and a Proxy Means Testing goes to the local authorities, 48 per cent of that, as methodology are being piloted in the South East,

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Kweneng, Kgatleng and Gaborone Districts, and will (children), and that the goods are priced reasonably. be rolled out to the rest of the districts once the results Late payments collapse businesses which in most cases have been assessed and recommendations made to would have been funded through one development Government for approval. programme or another. The other thing, which I shall do with the help of Honourable Serame and Honourable Mr Chairperson, the other priority area is primary Matsheka; Barolong ba gaetsho, will be to ensure that the schools maintenance. The intention here is to channel Invitation to Tender (ITTs) requesting for the provision a lot of resources into correcting the disrepair of the of this service are compliant to a number of Citizen schools that we see today. The plan is to cluster schools Economic Empowerment pronouncements made by this and have framework maintenance contracts (2-3 years) Government. I will also request Honourable Members where small to medium citizen-owned contractors will to help in this regard. have an opportunity to partake in such contracts and earn an income over an extended period. Of course, the Mr Chairperson, two more points. Local authorities success of this programme will depend on a number of have built a lot of infrastructure that is not being well factors, including productivity and reasonable pricing maintained. The priority is that before asking for by contractors and strict supervision by the local new ones, we should keep the existing infrastructure authorities. maintained, that is where we will focus.

Mr Chairperson, one thing is that, it has been proven I must hasten to indicate that despite this, we are that some of the attributes of a good performing faced with the unprecedented levels and incidents of primary school is preschool offering and availability of vandalism and theft. In Tutume for example, where we Information and Communications Technology (ICT). are doing Major Village Infrastructure Project, 41 panels The Government took a decision to have reception and their batteries for streetlights have been stolen. So, classes as part of the primary school education offering. we have 41 non-functional streetlights at the moment. Since the decision was taken in 2014, we now have 602 The streetlights along the Glen Valley-Phakalane primary schools with reception classes, out of 755. It is road have also been stolen. Much more vandalism our intention to ensure that the remaining 153 primary and theft is being observed around the country. I call schools are ready to implement the initiative at the upon this Honourable House to help me address this beginning of 2021 school calendar year. That is target undesirable behaviour. I shall be invoking the powers setting Honourable Saleshando. that Honourable Mmusi has, of helping to defend and protect our infrastructure. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… Mr Chairperson, the last point before I move is that MR MOLALE: He is my Leader of Opposition, gape further, my ministry is working on the Decentralisation ke mogwe wa me. Through the Universal Access Fund Policy. It is important to mention that as of late, there under Botswana Communications Regulatory Authority have been calls by the public to decentralise more (BOCRA), Corporate Social Responsibility by the product and services to the local level. My ministry cellular network companies, as well as companies and has received representations from around the country individuals through the Adopt-A-School Initiative, that some of the existing sub-districts be upgraded a total of 82 schools have so far received tablets… to fully-fledged districts. In that vein, my ministry I want members to note here because there has to will commence assessment of sub-districts and be that correction, whilst another 224 schools have administrative authorities with a view to examining the received these tablets through the Economic Stimulus feasibility of upgrading them after due consultation with Programme (ESP). all stakeholders.

Mr Chairperson, supplementary feeding in primary I must state that, formation of District Councils does not schools has to be in line with Economic Diversification disturb the hegemony of this country. Mr Chairperson, Drive, with priority being given to Small Micro and there is this held perception that the creation of additional Medium Enterprise (SMMEs) to supply schools. Of districts will temper with Tribal Territories Act. It is importance, is that we shall ensure that suppliers are important to note that creation of districts will not paid on time and that supplies are of quality because temper with tribal territories. I must hasten to point out we are feeling the vulnerable members of our society that, we currently have some councils whose boundaries

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straddle more than one tribal territory such as South (iii) Primary Education Facilities East and Southern. We can equally have more than one District Council within one tribal territory. The number (iv) Local Government Infrastructure Investment of districts to be established will therefore amongst Services others, be dependent upon availability of resources, not (v) Social Welfare as well as; the extent of the boundaries of tribal territories. (vi) Tribal Administration Infrastructure Development Recurrent Budget and,

Mr Chairperson, I now want to move that the proposed (vii) Remote Area Development Programme (RADP) 2020/2021 Recurrent Budget for my ministry standing Projects. at Seven Billion, One Hundred and Forty-Nine Million, Five Hundred and One Thousand, Six Hundred and Ten Mr Chairperson, this therefore, concludes my Pula (P7, 149, 501, 610) reflects an increase of 11.22 ministry’s presentation for the 2020/2021 Financial per cent, that is around Seven Hundred and Twenty-One Year budget proposals. I therefore, move that the Million, Three Hundred and Forty-Six Thousand Pula 2020/2021 Recurrent Budget in the sum of Seven (P721, 346 000). Billion, One Hundred and Forty-Nine Million, Five Hundred and One Thousand, Six Hundred and Ten Pula From the proposed Recurrent Budget, the Department (P7,149,501,610.00) be approved and stand part of the of Local Government gets the largest share of Four Schedule of the Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill 2020 for Billion, Eight Hundred and Fifteen Million, One Head 0800 and that the Development Budget in the sum Hundred and Thirty-Nine Thousand, Five Hundred and of One Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Two Million, Six Forty Pula (P4, 815, 139, 540) or 67.35 per cent of the Thousand and Ninety-Eight Pula (P1,252,006,098.00) total Recurrent Budget. be approved and stand part of those Estimates. I thank The Department of Social Protection is also proposed you Mr Chairperson. to get the second largest share of One Billion, Four MR CHAIRPERSON: The floor is open Honourable Hundred and Fifty-One Million, Eight Hundred and Members. Sixty-Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Sixty Pula (P1, 451, 869, 260) or 20.31 per cent. MR PULE (MOCHUDI EAST): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, ke batla go simolola The third largest share goes to the Department of Tribal ka go akgola Tona ka fa a re beileng pego pele. At Administration at Six Hundred and Eighty-Two Million, least fa o tsamaya o e lebelela, gongwe mantswe a Eight Hundred and Forty-Six Thousand, Nine Hundred and Eighty Pula (P682, 846,980). bo morwarraarona ka kwa a tla fokotsega ka gore go na le fa a beileng target teng. Go raya gore go na le The remaining balance of the Recurrent Budget, which improvement fela e e seng kana ka sepe. is One Hundred and Ninety-Nine Million, Six Hundred and Forty-Five Thousand, Eight Hundred and Thirty Se setona se ke neng ke batla go bua ka sone Mr Pula (P199, 645,830) which is 2.79 per cent of the Chairperson, ke lebogele mo paragraph eight ya gagwe budget, will be shared by the five remaining departments e a neng a bua ka go leka go tlhabolola ka fa bodiredi of my ministry. jwa dikgaolo bo tlaabong bo dira ka teng. Fa ke tsaya kgaolo e ke tswang mo go yone ya Mochudi East, ke Development Budget selelo le khuranyo ya meno, setšhaba se a lela ka fa bodiredi bo dirang ka teng, le gore dilo ga di tsamae With regard to the development budget Mr Chairman, sentle. Ke utlwa gotwe o ne a bua gore o ya go dira the proposal is such that the One Billion, Two Hundred mo gotweng Evaluation of Government Services, a Fifty-Two Million, and Six Thousand and Ninety-Eight ntsha mo gotweng, Customer Satisfaction Feedback Pula (P1, 252,006,098) will be shared amongst the Mechanisms ka Sekgoa. Setšhaba se tlaabo se akgela, ministry’s programmes as follows: ba dirisa suggestion boxes gore ba tlhalose ka fa ba (i) Ipelegeng thusiwang ka teng. Golo moo fa Tona a ka go diragatsa ka fa a buang ka teng, go ka re thusa thata. Go se ka (ii) Constituency Community Projects ga felela fa re latlhelang melaetsanyana fela mo teng ga

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boxes, go tswelelwe to improve service. Fa re gakolotse thuso.” Ke dingwe tse re batlang gore Tona a di lebelele gore ke batla gore re thusiwe jaana, go nne jalo. Fa go thata. na le modiredi mongwe yo a sa direleng batho sentle ka fa go tshwanetseng ka teng, go tsewe dikgato, go bonwe Tona, go na le dilelo tse di ntsi kwa dikgaolong. Mo gore go diriwa jang ka motho wa go nna jalo. kgaolong ya me, bogolo jang ya Mochudi East, ke kopana thata le batho ba bantsi ba banalebogole. O ka Se sengwe se ke se lebogelang thata, ke fa Tona a re batho ba ba nang le bogole mo dikgaolong tse di buang ka maikaelelo a go tsenya performance audits tshwanang le tsa Mochudi East, no, ga ba a sekegelwa kwa Dikhanseleng. Ke tsaya ke re le gone moo fa a ka tsebe Tona. Ke kopa gore bodiredi jwa gago o bo emise go diragatsa ka fa a tlhalosang ka teng, re ka leboga ka dinao, ba bone gore batho bao ba a thusiwa. Kana fela thata. O ne a tlhalosa gore o batla go dira jalo go batho ba utlwisiwa botlhoko, ga go na se ba ka se itirang. simolola ka April. O ne a bua gore it is his intention Ke gakologelwa nako nngwe ke tsena mo lelwapeng to have framework installed and working during the lengwe mo Mochudi, ke fitlhela mme mongwe foo wa course of the coming financial year. Re ka leboga thata. mosadimogolo a na le ngwana wa monalebogole. Go Ke nngwe ya targets tse re di lebogelang. Go raya gore ne go sena sepe se a thusiwang ka sone. Fa ke mmotsa, go simolola ka April, re tlaabo re beile ditsebe fa fatshe a bo a nthaya a re, “nnyaa, mmaboipelego o ne a le fa le matlho go bona gore a mme Tona o dira ka fa a neng ngogola, ke setse ke na le ngwaga ke ntse ke eme, o rile a re tshepisitse ka teng. o tlaa boela kwa go nna.” Ke dingwe tsa dilo tse ke neng ke eletsa mongwame gore e re fa o ntse o tlhabolola Ke utlwile Tona a bua gore o batla go buisanya le Tona bodiredi jwa gago, o di lebelele ka leitlho le le ntšhotšho. wa Madi gore go lebelelwe programmes tsa social protection, go bona gore a di ka se ke tsa lebelelwa ka O buile ka go tlhabolola Ipelegeng. Keletso ya me ke kakaretso go bona gore di ka fokodiwa jang. O ne a bua gore, ke go kope gore fa o re o batla go tlhabolola; e ka Sekgoa, a tšhoma a re, “more efficacious.” Gongwe rile fa o tšhoma, wa re, “transform Ipelegeng to have a re se ka ra di dira gore di nne more efficacious fela, we value add and be productive.” Gongwe fa o ne o ka re should also make sure that they are more beneficial. Re bolelela gore o raya o e transformer in what sense gore e tshwanetse to balance gore di nne effective, gongwe re nne le value add, gongwe go ka re thusa Tona. Batho ba leka go fokotsa Government spending at the expense lela ka Ipelegeng. Diphuthego tse ke neng ke di tshwere of some beneficiaries. Go raya gore re tshwanetse to maloba, batho ba lela ka Ipelegeng. Madi a Ipelegeng balance the two ka gore go na le batho ba e leng gore the a kwa tlase, quota ya teng e kwa tlase, ba ipotsa gore nature of their needs di kgona gore ba dire mo gotweng formula e e dirisiwang go hira batho mo motseng, ke ya double dipping. Fa ke e fa sekai, go na le motho yo o ka mofuta mang, mo e fitlhelang batho ba le bantsi, mme tswang a golafetse, a kgaogile leoto, gongwe kwa mine go hiriwa batho ba le few. Jaanong gongwe fa o ne o ka kana kwa sesoleng, mme a ne a agetse batsadi ba gagwe, tsena mo details ya go re bolelela gore o ya to transform e bo e re fa a tsena kwa, a bo a tsaya allowance ya se it jang gore e nne le value add. a ka bong a se bone, mme gongwe allowance eo ga e mo thuse gore a tshele ka fa a neng a tshela ka teng. Tona, re a leboga gore dingwe tsa ditlhabololo tse o di Go raya gore motho yo o tlaabong a sekaseka seemo sa dirileng, ke gore Ipelegeng e se ka ya itebaganya fela go nna jalo, o tshwanetse a bone gore allowance e a e le go dira ditironyana tse dinnyennyane, e dire tiro tse dirang, a mme o ka se ka a tsaya gape le dijo tsa batlhoki e ka reng fa programme e fela, re bo re kgona go bona ka gore gongwe go mo tlhoka gore seemo sa gagwe se gore nnyaa, mme go dirilwe culvert fale, kana go agilwe mmusetse mo a ka tshelang ka fa a neng a tshela ka teng. Kgotla nngwe fale go dirisiwa bodiredi jwa Ipelegeng Kana go frustrate thata o ne o ntse o tshela sentle, o go tlhabololwa motse, e bile gape batho le bone ba bona bo o golafala. Go raya gore o ya go nna kwa gae, and go oba letsogo. get punished fela ka gore o ne o agetse batsadi ba gago O nkgatlhile thata fa o bua ka go tlhabolola infrastructure ntlo o bo o sa bone sepe. Ke raya gore dikgang tseo e e mo dikoleng tse dipotlana. Go utlwisa botlhoko kwa kgaolong ya Mochudi East, di teng Modulasetilo. Tona, fa o ka tsena mo dikgaolong wa bona ka fa di Batho ba tla kwa go nna ba lela gore, “kana rra ke tserwe ntseng ka teng, primary schools especial mo ablution, it ka lesolegolo, ke golafetse kwa tirong, gompieno jaana is very bad. The state of the ablutions in primary schools gatwe ka gore ke agetse batsadi, kana mme e kile ya bo is very bad. Ke gore le fa re ka tswa fela ra tsena kwa e le morutabana a le mo pension, jaanong ga ke bone the nearest school, ra ya fa Oodi fela mo kgaolong ya

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me, wa ya go bona gore ablution ya teng e ntse jang, botoka, ga ke itse gore a ke gore ke utlwana le ene kana o ka utlwa botlhoko. Ka re gaufi, gongwe ke ka kopa jang. Seo ke a se lebogela. gore mo malatsing mangwe Tona, fa re ka kgona re le Mapalamente, re ye go tsena teng, le ye go bona gore Tona, go na le dilo tse di tlhokang gore di dirwe sentle, Oodi Primary School, ablution ya teng e ntse jang. Ke bogolo jang fa re bua ka Old Age Pension Allowance. E ne ke kopa gore mo ditekong tse o tlaabong o di dira tlhoka gore e okediwe ka gore bagolo ba rona ba diretse Tona, leka go lebelela thata kgang ya ablution ya dikole. lefatshe le. Madi a ba a fiwang, ke dumela a sa lekana. Bogolo fa e le gore le paletswe, e nne P1 500.00 kana fa Ke leboga thata mongwame, fa o reng o tlile go nna le re ka a gorosa kwa go P1 000.00 fela, go ka nna botoka, mo gotweng framework ya maintenance ya dikole, o go na le gore re a beye fa a leng teng. Se ke se buang leka gore o tlhabolole dikole, at the same time o tlise ke gore, air assets tsa ga Rre Mmusi, gongwe go ka Small, Medium and Micro Enterprises (SMMEs). Ke tabolwa teng, a bo go okediwa in the budget. Ke sone selo se se botlhokwa thata, se re reng fa o ka se dira jalo se ke reng, e kete se se tlileng, re se amogela fela. Fa re mongwame, se ka re isa golo gongwe. Dikonteraka di ka tabola kafa re bo re isa kwa Local Government, gore hiriwa lebaka le leleele, gongwe e hirwa for three years, e tle e kgone go okeletsa batho ba sentle, go ne go ka e hira batho, le ene motho yoo a itlhabolola, e bile go nna bonolo. tlhabololwa dikago tsa Puso. Mma ke siane ke supe gore, go na le rural development, Ke ne ke utlwa Tona o re, a total of 82 schools so far bogolo jang fa e amana le Remote Area Dweller have received the tablets. Gongwe o ka bo o kile wa re Settlements (RADS). Re tlhoka gore re fetole ka fa re fa palo ya gore mme di kae dikole tseo? Fa e le gore 82 lebang dilo ka teng. Ke dumalana gore ga re sa tlhole schools di filwe the tablets, gongwe re ka akanya gore re tlhoka settlements tse di sha tsa RADS. Ke dumela the remaining ones re ya go dira leng ka gore this is a gore ba tlhoka go tlhabololwa le go tokafatsa matshelo very positive action. Ke a itse gore go na le bangwe ba a bone. Ga ke dumele gore go oketsa settlements tsa ba neng ba ntse ba kgala fale le fale, ba bua ka fa Puso e batho ba re ba bitsang ba tengnyanateng kana RADS, go sa lekeng go lebelela dilo tsa rona sentle. tokafatsa botshelo jwa bone. E bile fa re dira settlements, go godisa lehuma mo go bone. This is because these Ke utlwile o bua gape le ka kgang ya Dikgotla, e e settlements di fetoga go nna tse di tlhokang ditlamelo nkgatlhileng, e o reng le batla gore di nne le Wi-Fi. O tse di rileng, mme di sa tokafatse sepe mo matshelong tlhalositse gore so far, 84 di connected. Fa re tsamaya a bone. Jaaka fa re ka tsaya sekai; re na le dikgaolo di mo dikgaolong batho ba a lela kwa Dikgotleng, gore ga tshwana le Kareng. ba bone thuso. Gongwe o ka bo o ne wa re bolelela gore Gompieno Puso ya lona ya ga Domkrag proposed gore mo go 84 yo, tsotlhe di kae. Re tle re kgone to measure go nna le settlements tse di sha gape kwa Xhorotshaa. gore mo lebakeng le le kae, o ka tswa o thusitse Dikgotla Ke dumela gore se morafe wa Sesarwa o se tlhokang di le kae. Modulasetilo, ke ne ke ema ka mafokonyana a gompieno, ke to own lefatshe, go nna le didiba le leruo le kalo fela ke re, ke ema Rre Molale nokeng ka Tshutiso le le ka ba tokafaletsang matshelo. Se re ka se dirang ka e a e dirileng, a a fiwe madi, a tle a kgone dilo tse a Xhorotshaa, ga se go dira another settlement, ke gore re batlang go di dira. Ke a leboga. dire gore e nne their production centre. E nne kwa ba ka HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… ruelang teng le dilo tsotlhe tse di ka tokafatsang matshelo a bone. Ke dumela gore batho ba, ba na le matshelo le MR HIKUAMA (NGAMI): Nnyaa, ke ne ke emeletse. dingwao tse di farologanyeng. Ba tlhoka gore ba nne Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. Mma ke simolole ka go supa le baeteledipele ba bone ba ba farologanyeng in terms gore go na le sengwe se ke sa se itumeleleng ka gore, go of Bogosi. Ke eng re sa dire gore in these established lebega sengwe le sengwe se se tlisiwang fa ke bo Tona, settlements or villages, ba nne le a ward. In that way, trend ke gore re a se amogela, that is the trend set. Le fa they will share facilities and developments le metse yone o bona gore go na le dingwe tse di ka tokafadiwang, go eo. Ba bo ba nna le Kgosi ya bone e e faphegileng. We lebega Rre Pule le ba bangwe bakaulengwe ba gagwe, have to do things differently ka gore ba tlhoka kemedi ba dumela gore sengwe le sengwe se se tlisiwang ya bone. fa, se fetisiwe. Ke dumela gore le fa Tona wa Local Government, Rre Molale, a begile dilo tsa gagwe ka Se sengwe se ke ka se buang ke Ipelegeng; ke lenaneo botswerere, e bile ke yone pego e ke e tlhaloganyang le le ka dirang dikgakgamatso. Mo dikgaolong fa

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le ka diriswa gore le nne productive, le tsene le mo be accessed. Gompieno bo Labour, Local Government ditlhabololong…, re na le a farm kwa Somelo jaaka are supposed gore ba ye kwa makgobokgobong, ba ke sa tswa go bua maloba. Re ka dira gore batho ba kopa lift mo bathong ba ba tsamaisang dikampa, fa ba Ipelegeng ba bereke farm e, kana madi a teng a dirisiwe tsena kwa, le fa ba dira inspections, ga ba kgone go mo go yone. Batho ba kgone go akola mo teng. Ke ya go dira tiro ka gore o a bo a kopile lift mo flight ya yone Ipelegeng e e tlaa dirang gore batho ba ikemele batho ba ba tsamaisang dikampa tseo. Fa re ka nna le ka nosi, ba ipelege ka boammaaruri. Fa madi a Puso a helicopternyana fela e e tlaabong e dirisiwa ke ba Local fela, ba tlaabo ba na le sengwe se ba ka ikaegang ka Government, Balaodi le maphata otlhe a a farologaneng, sone. Go tlaabo go dirilwe sengwe. Mo ga go tlhola go a a batlang to access swamps le dikgaolo tse di kgakala, kgaolwa ditlhare mo metseng, ga ke bone e le selo se se thusang batho gore ba ipelege. Ipelegeng a e tswe mo go go diragale bonolo. Dilo tse di ka thusa e bile di ka dira kgaoleng ditlhare le bojang. E dire dilo tse di tlaa salang gore services di goroge kwa bathong ka bonako. Sa di akolwa ke batho. bofelo Tona ke Tribal Administration; ke dumela gore Tribal Administration bogolo jang Dikgosi tsa Tetlanyo, Tona, se sengwe se ke bonang le se dira, ga ke sa tlhole tse di tletseng mo dikgaolong, di tlhoka fa di berekelang ke dumela gore Special Nominated Councillors ba setse teng. O fitlhela fa gongwe ba kgotlhagane mo ofising, ba na le boleng mo dipakeng tsa segompieno. Bona fela kgantele ga ba kgone go dira tiro e ba e beetsweng gore o tlhophile ba ba 119 mo lefatsheng lotlhe. Kana ka gone foo. It is high time, re batla gore Dikgotla kana kgwedi ba tsaya more than P1.5 million, mme ke madi batshereganyi ba batlelwe spaces fa ba ka berekelang a a neng a ka ya kwa ditlhabololong. Malatsi a, batho teng le fa a ka bayang teng files fela… ba setse ba na le dikitso tse di faphegileng, le ba ba tlhophiwang ba na le dikitso. Ga ke itse gore Specially MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR Nominated Councillors serve purpose efe. Tota fa re ka KWAPE): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mma le nna emisa thulaganyo e, dilo di ka tsamaya sentle. Se sengwe Tona ke go lebogele Tshutiso ya gago ya kopo ya madi. se ke dumelang gore ministry wa gago o tshwanetse o Ke leboge thata gore o bo o e begile ka botswerere. Ke itebaganye le sone, ke settlements tse dintsi. Batho ba simolole ka go supa gore ke e ema nokeng ka botlalo. felela ba batla metse bogolo jang mo dikgaolong. I think Ke e ema nokeng ka gore e bua ka go isa ditlamelo we should move towards integrating those settlements kwa bathong, bogolo jang go baakanya dikago mo instead of creating new villages. We have to integrate dikgaolong tse re nnang kwa go tsone. those settlements into the already gazetted villages, go Tona, ke ne ke re le fa o e tlhalositse ka botswerere, ke fokotsa dilo tse dintsi. kopa gore o ele dilo dingwe tlhoko jaaka o tlaabo o isa HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. ditlamelo kwa go rona. Go na le sengwe se a tshwenya, bogolo jang mo thekong, o fitlhela ditlhwatlhwa tse MR HIKUAMA: Iketle pele mokaulengwe, nako e kete Puso e rekang ka tsone, di le kwa godimo fela thata fa e a sia. Ke tlaa go neela sebakanyana mo motsotsong o o go tshwantshwanngwa le ditlhwatlhwa tse re di bonang sa fediseng pelo. If you can integrate, like for example; mo mabentleleng. Tona, ke nako gore re bone gore Puso Etsha 8 and Etsha 7 need to be integrated into Etsha 6. fa e reka metsi, ke e fa e le sekai, e itsise mongwe le E bo e nna part of Etsha 6. Go ka re direla tiro motlhofo mongwe yo o rekisang gore e reka metsi a a jang bokae ka le go aba ditsha go ka nna motlhofo. Ga o sa tlhole o gore go se ka ga nna le gore batho bangwe ba felele re, gazette this village la ntlha gore batho ba fiwe ditsha. jaanong ba rekisetsa Puso metsi a a neng a ka ja P7, Gompieno re nna le bomaipaafela ba ka bomo, ba re ka mme ba a rekisa ka P30. A tlhwatlhwa e e itsiwe ke ba fetsang. Go tshwana le Semboyo le Maporo; Maporo botlhe, ba farologanngwe ke gore yo mongwe o ka dira should be integrated into Semboyo, e bo e nna motse o tiro eo ka bofefo kana ka bonokopila jang. le mongwefela. Ba bo ba segelwa ditsha ba nnela foo ruri, go sa tlhoke gore motse has to be gazetted. Se sengwe se se ntshwenyang Tona ke gore, kana ditlamelo tse re di dirang, re di isetsa kwa bathong, Fa re bua ka local governance, ke dumela gore kgaolo bogolo jang tsa nyeletso lehuma le mephako, ra re re leka ya rona ya North West, bogolo ya Ngami, e phatlaletse gore re tokafatse seemo sa dikgwebo tse di potlana kwa and gore batho ba goroge kwa go yone, go nna dingalo. magaeng. Se se tshwenyang ke gore o kgona go fitlhela Gongwe re ne re ka e batlela helicopter, re bo re neela fa gongwe go phakiwa mo dishopong tse di tonatona, Molaodi gore a kgone to access dikgaolo tse di thata to tse ka Sekgoa ba a tleng ba re ke chain stores, jaanong

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o bo o fitlhela dikhefi tsa batsadi ba rona mo magaeng, Ya rural development, Tona ke ratile thata e o reng di tswetswe, mme e ntse e le tsone tse di tshelang ka go batho ba dirise dibapalwa-nageng tse ba nang le tsone rekisetsa batho ba ba mo tikologong. Ra re a golo mo go mo tikologong e ba leng mo go yone. Kwa kgaolong ya lebelelwe gore e se ka ya re dishopo tse di tona tse, tse me kwa morago kwa bo Lefoko, Lebutse, Tsonyane, maina a tsone gantsi e leng a Sekgoa, e nne tsone fela Betesankwe le Seherelela, re na le morama le tse dingwe tse e leng gore di a supply. Fa kgwedi e fedile, batho tse di bapalwang mo nageng tse di ka nnang le boboloka ba mophako o fitlhela terese ya bone e le kwa go tsone mo go rona, tsa ba tsa tsholetsa seemo sa itsholelo dishopo tse, tsa rona tse di nnyennyane, di tswetswe. A sa kgaolo eo, ra ba ra kwadisa tse re di boneng, re di re dire fela jaaka Ipelegeng e dira. Kana kwa Ipelegeng bapetse mo nageng, re di tlhabolotse, gore e re kamoso fa o hirwa, o ne o neetswe tiro gompieno kana go tilwe re bo re gweba ka dilo tse re di kwadisitseng tse. o bereke, o tsere yes gompieno, wa itse gore kgwedi e e tlang ga o ka ke wa tsaya yes gape, go letlelelwa Ka mafoko a le kalo Tona, ke lebogetse thata ka fa o ba bangwe ba ba iseng ba kgone go dira jalo. A go nne neng o bega ka teng, mme ke ema ka pelo yotlhe ya me le tekatekanyo mo go neeleng batho ditiro tsa go isa kopo ya gago. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. dijo le tse di tlhokwang ke batlhoki le ba ba tlhokileng MR KABLAY (LETLHAKENG-LEPHEPHE): lesego mo botshelong. Selo se Tona, se felela se dira Thank you Mr Chairperson. Ke lebogela Tona go gore jaanong ba dishopo tse di tona, e nne e kare ba re bo a re beile pego ya gagwe fa pele. Re a itse gore o bofeletse mabogo ka fa morago. Ba re bofelela jalo, ba rre yo o ka kgonang, ke ne ka go bona o sa ntse o le diga dikgwebo-potlana tse di mo magaeng a rona. Tona mo Lephateng la Motlakase, o tsenya dikgaolo Se sengwe Tona se ke neng ke batla gore ke tshwaele tsa rona motlakase tsotlhe. Jaanong ke na le tsholofelo mo go sone, ke dilo tse batho ba di kopileng, fa gongwe ya gore tota ministry o rraetsho, o tlaa ema ka dinao, ba setse ba amogetswe gore ba neelwe, tsa destitute o bona gore fale le fale o o tlhabolola jang, ka gore re programmes. Backlog ya teng mongwame, e telele thata ntse re lela e le gore dilo ka bontsinyana, di saletse kwa fela e tsamaela kwa go 2015, mme motho a tshotse morago kwa dikgaolong tse re tswang mo go tsone, re dikwalo tsotlhe tsa gore they have been approved, a dilo tshela ka lephata le. Fa lephata le le sa dire, go raya gore tse di lebelelwe, di ntshiwe kwa morago gore re tle re batho kwa dikgaolong tsa rona, ga gona sepe se ba ka tswelele ka go ntsha Batswana mo lehumeng. tshelang ka sone. Jaanong rraetsho, re tsaya gore o tlaa ema ka dinao, lephata le le tlaa tswelela le dira jaaka le Ke ratile gape Tona fa o bua ka sub-districts tse o reng tshwanetse gore le dire. tse dingwe di lebeletswe gore di dirwe fully-fledged district. E re o e lebelela mongwame, o lebelele gore Re lebogela Ipelegeng, ga nke ke tlhoka go leboga kana Puso ya re e batla go isa ditlamelo kwa bathong, Ipelegeng ka gore kwa kgaolong e ke e emetseng, jaanong a o ka se ke o akanye gore re lebelele model wa botshelo ke yone. Fa Ipelegeng e seyo, ga gona sub-districts, re ntshe wa districts tse di tona, gore di botshelo, ga gona ditiro, ke se e leng gore ga ke ka ke nne di potlana gore di kgone gore di tlamele batho ba ba ka se fitlha. Ke tshwanetse fela ke se lebogele ke kope gaufi le tsone, re bo re tsaya ba ba ntseng ba okametse gore Ipelegeng rraetsho e okediwe, batho ba yone ba districts, a bo re ba tlisa Gaborone ba tla to coordinate okediwe kwa magaeng a rona. Re a itse gore madi ga go bona gore tiro e a diragala. Ke kakanyo fela, mme ke a yo, mme fa o ntse o latlhela Tona go nna botoka, le sa ganane le kakanyo ya gago mongwame. madi a ba a berekelang rraetsho a a okediwe, a e re o ntse gongwe Goromente a re okeletsa madi ngwaga le E nngwe ke go baakanya dikole le dikokelo tsa rona kwa ngwaga, le bone ba ba latlhelele sengwe. Le bone ba tle dikgaolong. Ke rata mogopolo o o reng re dire clusters, ba tshele, ditlhwatlhwa di kwa godimo, botshelo bo kwa mme ke ne ke re a re ganelele thata mo benggaeng, ka godimo Tona. Jaanong rraetsho, re ne re kopa jalo gore a gore fa o ya go tsaya cluster kwa kgakala, go nna turu Ipelegeng e godisiwe, a Ipelegeng e tshwane le namola for them to mobilise go tswa bokgakaleng jo bo kalo, leuba ya bogologolo, e re neng re bereka re itirela, re mme e bile go nna bofefo gore tiro e diragale ka bofefo ikagela. A e re kamoso Ipelegeng e seyo, e nne le dikai gone foo. Ke tlaa fa sekai, kwa kgaolong ya me, go na tsa gore nnyaa, mme e rile Ipelegeng e le teng re ne ra le sekole se bidiwa gotwe Sebego, toilets tsa teng di na dira se le se. le lebaka di sa bereke, go bapa le tsone go na le flat e thubegile e batla go baakanngwa. Dilo tseo, ke tsone tse Tona, Modulasetilo ke tsena ka wena rraetsho ke bue mongwame, re akanyang gore di ka dirwa ka bonako. gore, botshelo in the hostels ga se bone. Bana ba rona in

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the hostels segolo hostel ya Mmantshwabisi ke batla go jaanong mathata ke gore, e ntse fela, a white elephant, e boeletsa, ke kile ka e bua. Go kile ga romelwa batho ga gona sepe se e se dirang. Re ne re solofetse gore kwa Mmantshwabisi ba ya go sekaseka gore bana ba diteseletso tsa go kgweetsa tsa rona re tlaa di kgethela tshela jang, mme ba tla ba bega gore nnyaa, bana ba kwa, manyalo a rona a tlaa nna kwa, Balaodi ba tlaa tshela sentle, ba bega kgang e e neng e seyo koo. Ke nna ba tla, bodiredi bo tlaa nna bo tla. Owaii! Ga gona santse ke bua gore bana ba Mmantshwabisi ga ba tshele sepe se se diragalang Mr Chairperson. Re kopa Tona sentle; ga ba tlhape, ga ba tlhokomelwe, mme ba nna in gore, a go emiwe ka dinao rraetsho gore Sojwe Service the hostels, ba tswa kwa le kwa in our settlements tsa Centre e bereke, e thuse batho go kgakala. Fa gongwe Kgaolo ya Kweneng. Bana ba Mmantshwabisi ga ba na fa o tswa Sojwe kana Lephephe, o tsile go dira moriti tlhokomelo mo ba kgonang go tswa from their hostels (photocopy), o tsile go ntshafatsa license gore o duela ba ya go itisa fa go lelang teng mo dikumbakumbeng. bokae. Ke dilo tse rraetsho, re di kopang gore go nne Ba lala ba bina bosigo jotlhe, fa go tswalwa ka jalo. dikumbakumbeng ke gone ba tlang go robala, mme gotwe ba hiretswe batho ba ba ba tlhokomelang. Jaanong Rraetsho re kopa motlakase kwa sekolong sa dilo tse Mr Chairperson, ga se dilo tse di... Boatlaname Primary School. Boatlaname kana go ntse go sena motlakase, jaaka o itse Tona o ne wa tsenya MR LESASO: Point of elucidation. Honourable motlakase last year. Jaanong, ga gona motlakase kwa Kablay, kgang e o e buang e kana e gasame ga se kwa sekolong, bana le batsadi ba Boatlaname koo rraetsho, kgaolong ya gago fela, le kwa Kgaolong ya Shoshong; ba kopa gore a motlakase o nne teng. Tona, o agile kwa Mokgenene le kwa Otse, bana ba o buang ka bone ofisi ya manobonobo o e agela batho ba Loologane ba ba, ke bana e leng gore tota ga ba tlhokomelesege, ke e leng matengnyanateng. Kgosi ya rona ya Loologane, re ke go tlatse. Kwa ntle ga gore ga ba tlhape, ga ba o na le dingwaga tse tlhano a ntse fela a le mo post e tlhokomelegese, go na le nako e ba ntshiwang fela mo le nngwefela. Re kopa gore a Kgosi a atolosiwe, go dikoleng tseo go sa itsiwe gore criteria e e dirisiwang okediwe maemo a gagwe gore le ene a tshwane le ke e ntseng jang. Ba bo ba ya go tlala koo, o fitlhela e Dikgosi tse re di bonang, ka gore o mo agetse ofisi, sa le gore ba a sotlega, ga ba je, ga ba apare, ke re kgang gago fela ke gore o mo tlhatlose maemo gore a tle a nne eo o e gatelele tota gore bana bao ba tshwanetse gore ba Kgosi e tota a sekisang. Rraetsho re tsamaya lebaka le tlhokomelwe le batsadi ba bone ba itse gore ba beelwa le leele re sekisiwa kwa Lephephe le Sojwe, mme re bonno jo bo siameng. na le Kgosi, re na le sengwe le sengwe, le mapodise a le teng. Sa rona fela ke gore rre yo o tshwanetse gore a MR KABLAY: Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke tsholediwe maemo gore a tle kgone go sekisa, ka gore yone kgang rraetsho e re neng re e bua gore, ke tsaya Lephephe o kgakala. Batho ba tswa mo Loologane ba ya gore Tona o tlaa ema ka dinao a ntshe lekoko le le tlaa tsamayang le botsa. Lekoko le e tlaa reng le tsena kwa, Lephephe kana Sojwe, go kgakala Mr Chairperson. Re le se ke le tshose batho, bodiredi jo bo berekang foo kopa gore a seemo seo se baakanngwe. gore, nnyaa re batla le bua jaana. Lekoko le e tlaa reng Re lebogela thata dikgomo tse lephata la gago le ne le di le tsena kwa, le tlaa tla le utlwa mathata a tota bana ba fa batho ba tengnyanateng, ba kgaolo e ke e emetseng. ba tshelela mo go one. Goromente ene o a ntsha rra, dijo, sengwe le sengwe, wardrobes tsa bone fa o ka ya Jaanong go eme Mr Chairperson, re ba epetse didiba go bona fa ba nnang teng Goromente a batlang gore ba jaanong ga di bereke sepe, ka gore dikgomo le dipodi tse nne teng, malao a Goromente o ba a reketse. Goromente ba neng ba di solofeditswe ga di bonale, ga di tle. wa me ene ga ke mo nyatse, ke nyatsa ba ba filweng HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kwa kae? tshono ya gore ba tlhokomele bana bale. Ke ne ke re ke fete ka sone. MR KABLAY: Kwa Diphuduhudu. Sediba se teng, masaka a teng, sengwe le sengwe se teng. Jaanong ke Re sa le re agelwa service centre kwa Sojwe. Ke ne ke re, a batho ba Diphuduhudu le ba Loologane ba gore ga ke tlhaloganye service centre ya Sojwe Mr ye go fiwa dikgomo le dipodi tse re di ba solofeditseng Chairperson, gore gatweng ka yone. Service centre ele re le Goromente. e rile e agiwa re ne ra itumela, re bolelelwa gore sengwe le sengwe se ya go tla koo, Goromente o isa ditlamelo Rraetsho dikole di makgasa, a re eme ka dinao jaaka o kwa bathong jaaka Goromente wa me a ne bua gore o bua ka maintenance. Tona, o bone gore dikole tsa rona tlaa isa ditlamelo kwa bathong. Ruri o dirile jalo o agile, rraetsho, bana ba tlaa welwa ke ceilings. Bana jaaka

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serame se tla jaana, ba tlile go bolawa ke serame go position two with 96 per cent. Gone ka lebaka la go sena difensetere le mabati. A go emiwe ka dinao Tona, hutagana, go gotlhana mo ga bana ba ba kanakana, re go file madi a mantsi, ga re itse gore go tlaabo go gompieno se tsere 81 per cent. Re na le setsha se se pala eng fa dilo tse re di buang rraetsho di ka se ke di duleng diatla se re emetseng fela gore o re neele sekole. dirwe. Ema ka dinao Tona Molale, jaaka ke go itse o Kopo ya me Tona ke gore e re fa o re neela sekole se tlhabolole lephata le, lephata le jaaka ke ne ke bua, sesha se, at least o re neele 25 staff houses. Fa ke bua le ke lephata la batho, people’s ministry. Re le rata thata wena jaana, barutabana ba sekole sa Shashe Mooke are lephata le, re batla gore le tlhabolole batho ba ga rona commuting from Mmandunyane, Tati Siding, Borolong, kwa dikgaolong, ka Goromente wa rona o ntsha madi a Francistown le ba bangwe ba ba mo motseng. Jaanong se kana ka sepe gore batho ba rona kwa dikgaolong kwa ka tsweetswee Tona, ke a go rapela morena wa me, bona ba tlhabologe, ba itirele. Thank you Mr Chairperson. gore o a re thusa.

MR MOATLHODI (TONOTA): Morena wa me yo Motse wa Shashe Mooke needs internal roads and ke mo ratang thata. Motlotlegi Rraetsho Tona, nnyaa sewerage system as well. E rile ka 9th Parliament, ra fiwa rra madi a o a filweng a mannyennyane thata. Madi a a ditsha ke land board di ka nna plus, minus 150. Batho mannyennyane thata at least fa o ka bo o ne o filwe P3 ba Shashe Mooke ba agile matlo a mantle mme ga go na billion, ka lebaka la gore Ministry of Local Government, dipompo tsa kgopho ya metsi a a leswe. Lefelo le re le is a mother of all ministries lefatshe lotlhe. Rona bitsa re re ke New Stance. Ke kopa gore ka tsweetswee, batho ba dikgaolo, I am one of the strongest believers re neele madi, re gokelele dimpompo kwa New Stance. mo lephateng le la Local Government. I wish... legale Go na le motse rra kwa Tonota o bidiwa gotwe Tonota monnawe ke yo, ke ne ke re ke eletsa gore Motlotlegi West. Ke o kopela lenaneo ke lele le le tswetileng le Rraetsho Tautona o ka bo a le fa, nnyaa mme monnawe bidiwa gotwe village infrastructure. Motse wa Tonota ke yo, o utlwa selelo sa rona. Kana lephata le le rwele West o tlhagogile ka ngwaga wa 1998. Ga o na clinic, Ipelegeng, masiela le diritsa tsotlhe, mme ka tsweetswee primary school, internal roads le mabitla. Ga ke hutse a le okelediwe madi. Kwa kgaolong ya me kwa, e ke ope fa ke bua ka mabitla mme ga go na motse o o ka e ratang thata e ke ikaelelang go e tlhokomela go feta tshelang kana o o ka nnang o sena mabitla. dikgaolo tsotlhe tse di 57, go na le motse o bidiwa gotwe Shashe-Mooke. Kwa motseng wa Shashe-Mooke, go Go na le motse Motlotlegi Tona, through my Honourable na le sekole fela se le sengwe fela se bidiwa Shashe- Chairperson, o ke o ratang thata, o bidiwa gotwe Mooke Primary School. Population ya bana fluctuates Mabesekwa, 67 kilometres west of Tonota. Batho ba between 1, 200, fa ke bua le wena jaana letsatsi leno golo koo ba a lema. Ke a kopa Tona e bile ke khubame, bana mo sekoleng sa Shashe-Mooke ba 1, 035, which is re kopa sekonotere mo tseleng ya motse oo. Ke a kopa very unhealthy for our teachers, very unhealthy for our Tona, ke a rapela. Batla madi Tona, tsela e e tshelwe pupils and very unhealthy for the village. 10 classrooms; sekonotere. Go na le moepo o o tshwanetseng wa bulwa le iketlele Tona ke batla gore a nkutlwe a ntlhaloganye, mo tseleng e e yang kwa Mabesekwa. Gone mo ka a tle a tseye selelo sa batho ba ba ntlhophileng. Ke tlile bogone, go dirile gore dikatakata tse di baakanyang kwa ke tlhophilwe ke batho ba Shashe-Mooke, ke batla go ba moepong, di ripitle tsela e mo go botlhoko! Ka jalo rra, buelela excellently and marvelously. 10 classrooms di re a kopa, re a rapela. Sekole sa Mabesekwa out of 20 rutelwa kwa ntle, bana ba rona ga ba tshwane le rona, go primary schools, se tsere 3rd position with 98 per cent. go nnyennyane thata. Fa e re ba le ka fa tlase ga setlhare Dikole di a pasa kwa kgaolong ya me ka gore ke a di jaana, mmankgododo a bo a mo wela tlhogong, ngwana rotloetsa. Ke ba rekela trophies. Se tsere 98 per cent; a o ka nna a ka ga ba itse dilo tse. Fa bana ba le ka fa tlase rural primary school. Jalo go botlhokwa gore motse o ga setlhare jaana, ditshedinyana tse di bo di ba rotela ka tsweetswee o agelwe… re o tshele sekonotere. mo ditlhogong, bana ba ka nna ba swa kana ba tsenwa Fa ke bua ka dikago tsa khansele Tona, pelo ya me e a ke malwetse. phatloga ka borakonteraka ba e reng fa khansele e ba Ke a go kopa Tona, as an emergency, work on this file tiro, fa re sena go nna re ba neela mobilisation fee, project o re neele sekole sa bobedi kwa motseng wa o a nyelela. Mo botshelong jwa me, ke ne ke le bogale Shashe Mooke. Ke bua le wena ke khubame Motlotlegi thata mo Dipalamenteng tsa nako ele ke le fa. A dikago Rraetsho Tona. Sekole sa Shashe Mooke six years tsa lefatshe le di se ka tsa dirwa ke maChina, di dirwe ago, out of 20 primary schools mo kgaolong, se tsere ke Batswana. Tona, I regret, I will have to go back to my

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original decision gore dikago tse jaanong re sekaseke, MR MOATLHODI: Kwa Tonota. La bofelofelo, kwa re bone gore a ga re ka ke ra neela batho ba ba tlaa motseng wa Semotswane kwa Tonota, re mo ngwageng feleletsang dikago. Borakonteraka bale kwa ntle ga go wa bone go ntse go sena Kgosi. Go sekilwe, go sekilwe. sia, fa a tshwanetse a dire tiro ka manontlhotlho, o dira Ke ipotsa gore tota gatwe go nnetswe eng, Kgosi e tlaa dilo di sele! bewa leng kwa Semotswane? Makgoa ba re, “justice delayed is justice denied.” Ke lebogile Motlotlegi HONOURABLE MEMBER: Le go tlhoka go duela Rraetsho Tona. batho. HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR MR MOATLHODI: Le go tlhoka go duela batho TSOGWANE): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr mogwe wa me. Wena o mogwe wa me tota. Motse wa Chairperson, I just stand to support the Honourable Tonota rra and the neighbouring villages ka tsweetswee, Minister’s submission. Minister, we know we have dipompo tsa kgopo metsi a a leswe di tlhokafala thata. so many things to cover but the resources are limited. Re na le clinic ya Tonota. Batho ba Tonota ba e bitsa This budget which you have addressed and tried to sepatela. Tona, bakgweetsi ba Tonota clinics, ga o ba budget fairly well is what I may call doing more with tshware jaaka bakgweetsi ba bangwe. Bakgweetsi ba less. Indeed, even your presentation shows that you are Tonota clinics… trying to be as efficient as possible. We cannot every HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… time expect to have more money than our needs. We will always have a shrinking cake and we have to learn MR MOATLHODI: Ke morwarraago, e tlaa re le le to do more with less. koo, le tlaa di bua. Ga ke na bosupi jwa gore I shall be able to catch the Speaker’s eye next time. O tlaa All we have to do is to address inefficiencies in our fitlha o mmolelela kwa le tsenelang diphuthego teng. different departments. I can see that you are doing Bakgweetsi ba Tonota clinics ba theogela ka 7 maitseboa exactly that Minister as you are trying to address the mme ba tšhaisa ka 7 phakela. Ba dikokelwana tse tsotlhe, issue of transformation. It is through digitising and le ba Nyangabgwe Primary School ba fudusitswe koo. transformation that you can do more with less. It is Fa e le gore go ntse jalo, re tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore through digitising that you can address some of the re bopelele Rra Itumeleng, re ye go bona Tona. Ke a inefficiencies, which you have alluded to in your ngongorega Tona. presentation. Having said that Minister, you also need Ke rata lephata le la Self-Help Housing Agency to do a little bit of monitoring and evaluation, especially (SHHA) ka gore le tlhabolola matshelo a batho ka go to do with this programme ya P10 million Constituency ba agela matlo a a siameng. Palo e e neelwang sub- Fund. Kana as we move around, some constituencies district ya Tonota, matlo a le 25, mme re na le metse e have not even used (implemented) the first P10 million le six, nnyaa. Ke kile ka kopa fa re simolola Palamente of the first year of the three years. That money could have gore mo metseng e e six, at least give us 120 units. been used elsewhere. It is very important to monitor this Motse mongwe le mongwe re o neele matlo a le 20. P10 million Constituency Fund and try to evaluate the Mo kgaolong ya me, tota mo lefatsheng la Botswana impact of it. Try to come up with some new guidelines, ka bophara, a ke kwa Zwenshambe kana Tonota, ga because people seem to think that they can do everything ke sa tlhole ke eletsa go bona Motswana ope a nna mo under the sun with the P10 million, they can even open ntlong ya bojang. Le gone bojang jwa dibepa. Batswana tuck shops or businesses with that. Really, this is not ba tshwanetse ba nne mo matlong a cement; a a nang what was intended with the Constituency Fund. We have le tiles, at least a ruletswe ka disenke e bile go na le new Members of Parliament, who were not there when ceiling. Ke tsaletswe mo ntlong ya bojang, mo-ikalanga the fund was conceptualized, so you need to take them koi jatja, lejoro. Ke tshwenngwa ke Dikgotla Tona. Le on board and provide them with the guidelines, because tseetse Dikgosi tsa rona ditempe. Dikgosi tsa rona fa di they will be the ones who will have the last word as to tshwanetse gore di rurufatse (authorise) go rekwa ga what that money could be used for. It is very important th dikgomo, gatwe ditempe tsotlhe di tserwe. Setempe se to take Members of this 12 Parliament on board, as latelwa kwa Kgotleng e tona. This is not right. far as the Constituency Fund is concerned, otherwise we will not realise or have no impact of the 10 million HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kwa kae? Constituency Fund without proper guidelines.

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Minister, one area that I think you also need to address Someone was complaining about Tonota saying Dikgosi is that of revenue collection. Councils are entirely tsa Tonota ga di bewe, who will prevail over that? Who dependent on Government subventions, which should has the authority over Dikgosi tsa Tonota if we do not not be the case. We need to strengthen collections and have a Kgosi in Serowe? This perpetual absenteeism of collect rates. Councils must aim at being independent in the Kgosi creates instability in the tribal district, that has terms of collecting revenue for themselves. In most cases to be addressed Minister, because it either you abdicate they depend on Government subventions to the extent or somehow be unable to become a Chief as stated in that they have completely forgotten their responsibility to the Bogosi Act. Please apply the Bogosi Act and have collect revenue and try to finance some of their projects. all Merafe with hereditary Bogosi to also comply. We So it cannot be business as usual Minister, I know you cannot have absenteeism like this one, so address that will address that. It cuts across all ministries, we need issue Minister. to strengthen revenue collection. It is very important, as much as re batla makgetho through bo Botswana “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” Unified Revenue Services (BURS), we must also do our HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… part, to try and ensure that we collect revenue, taxes or whatever rates available for the councils. MR TSOGWANE: The establishment of sub-districts; we have sub-districts which were established Minister The Remote Area Development Programme (RADP) and the Rakops Sub-District is one of them. I think it is a very good programme, like some have already is high time you look into these and see whether these addressed it. We need only to strengthen the system and sub-districts are operational. I know some want to be ensure that those animals or cattle that we have given fully fledged districts, like Boteti Sub-District it is huge! to the Remote Area Dwellers (RADs) are also looked it is bigger than some of the districts we have in this after and they make an impact. Today if you look at that country. Central alone has more than 13 sub-districts, programme, it is an old programme, but if you look at while other districts have only one or two sub-districts. the rate of poverty in those RADs settlement, it is as if So I think this issue ya the Central District has to be they have never been assisted. All along they have been addressed like yesterday. So this is one of those issues getting livestock. Unfortunately some of the councils that you have to look into. We are looking forward to see have not been able to provide water for their livestock, whether we will have internal roads in my constituency. because of a small thing like an engine. These are some Most of my villages do not have internal roads. You of the inefficiencies that we also have to address. cannot drive either to the school or clinic because of Minister, I recognised two merafe and their Chiefs during lack of internal roads. Sometimes you have to rule from my time as a Minister of Local Government and Rural the grave, let me thank you for your past history as a Development. I think we need to find a way of trying Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and to accommodate them under the Tribal Administration Energy Security, you made an impact in terms of rural System. Since they have been recognised, their electrification and we must thank you for that. I wish privileges and rights are not very clear and they keep on you will also voice it and continue to rule from the grave looking forward to being accommodated by the system. and help. I thank you Minister. These are Dikgosi tsa Bayei le Basobea, we need to MR LUCAS (BOBONONG): Thank you very much address this issue very well, otherwise e nna Dikgosi Mr Chairperson. Go thata go ema ka dinao gore o fela ka molomo. I think you will try to address that issue. supiwe. Ke ne ke re ke simolole ka go akgola Tona ka Their counterparts are coming to Ntlo ya Dikgosi and gore o re neetse pampiri ya gagwe go na le sebaka. O re with them it is not very clear how they become Members neetse beke gore re e bale, re e badile, re e tlhalogantse, of Ntlo ya Dikgosi. I know that one is a Constitutional le bodiredi jwa gagwe jwa ministry ba ne ba tlile go re matter, which you will address through the review of buisa re le ba Komiti ya Local Government. Ba tlile ba the Constitution, which we are going to come up with. le babedi fela mme ba bangwe ba tlisa team yotlhe ya Those are the only Merafe which have been recognised. batho ba le 15. Mme ka bobedi ja bone ba re tlhalosetsa Minister, address absenteeism of Bogosi. We have dikgang, ra di utlwisisa. Le fa go ntse jalo ke re, Puso tribes that do not have Dikgosi, not because they are ya Selegae mo lefatsheng la Botswana e latlheletswe not existing. Very strong institutions like Bogosi jwa thata, e bile ga ena le fa e le seriti. Go ntse go buiwa Gammangwato, we do not have a Kgosi at the Kgotla. ka lebakanyana ka Decentralisation Policy, mme go

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buiwa fela ka molomo e sa diragadiwe. It is not being sanitation le environmental protection a di boele adopted. Ke re itlhaganelele golo moo, gore re nne le kwa dikhanseleng, ka ke tsone di leng gaufi le batho. Decentralisation Policy. Re tle re itse gore re thatafatsa Fa e le gore jaanong Central Government e tlaabo e Puso ya Selegae, gore e tle e kgone go thusa batho, ka ikgagapelela, ke sone se o fitlhelang jaanong fa o tsena gore ke yone e e kwa bathong, e e ka thusang batho ka kwa dikgaolong… bogaufi. Decentralisation Policy e le nosi, ga se e e tlaa fedisang mathata a re a bonang a Puso ya Selegae. Re HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ke kopa tlhaloso. tshwanetse gape ra tlhomamisa gore local governance MR LUCAS: …o re o lebelela clinics, dikole, di and councils di nna entrenched in the Constitution of the makgasa. Republic of Botswana, gore re tle re kgone ka go supa sentlentle gone foo gore ditiro tsa bone ke eng, Local ASSISTANT MINISTER OF YOUTH Government tiro ya yone ke eng? Fa re sa dire jalo, EMPOWERMENT, SPORT AND CULTURE mongwe le mongwe yo o tsenang mo boeteledipeleng DEVELOPMENT (MR BILLY): On a point of jwa ministry kana mo bo Tautoneng o kgona go dira clarification. Ke a go utlwa Honourable Member gore jaaka a eletsa, fa fa gongwe go bo go kgoreletsa ditiro o ne o re mo decentralisation, go raya gore primary tsa Local Government. schools di boele kwa dikhanseleng. Ke batla go itse gore gompieno primary schools di kwa kae, a ga di kwa Fa gongwe o fitlhela e le gore gone kwa dikhanseleng khanseleng? kamoso ba tseetswe metsi, ba a neelwa letsatsi le le latelang, ba tseetswe clinics, ba a di neelwa letsatsi le MR LUCAS: Billy, gakere o a tlhaloganya fela sentle le latelang. Gone moo ka bogone fa e le gore they are e bile o ne o le Mokhanselara. O a itse gore bontlha entrenched in the Constitution, go tlaabo go raya gore bongwe jwa primary schools bo kwa side ya Puso, side roles tsa local councils are clearly defined. Gone moo e nngwe e ka kwa khanseleng. Ka re a di boele kwa go botlhokwa thata gore re go dire. khanseleng tsotlhe. Go botlhokwa thata batho betsho go tlhomamisa gore tsone ditiro tse di gaufi le batho, di Go a tlhokafala gape gore dikhansele ka botsone di boele kwa dikhanseleng. Le gone golo moo go dirwe ka neelwe dithata tsa go dira le go diragatsa ditogamaano bofefo ka gore fa o tsena kwa dikgaolong, o fitlhela kwa tsa bone, le go itirela madi tota. Gompieno dikhansele dikoleng le clinics, le tota dikgaolo tse di emetsweng ke di fetogile bakopinyana fela ba e leng gore ga ba kgone maDomkrag, di makgasa. Dikhansele jaanong ga di na go itirela madi, mme ditlhabololo tsa bone di tswa fela yone tshwanelo ya go bereka le clinics le dikole, tsone mo go reng Central Government ya reng. Gone moo ka tse re di buang, go makgasa a a gakgamatsang. Gone bogone go nyenyafatsa seriti sa Puso ya Selegae, e ke moo ka bogone re tshwanetse ra go ela tlhoko. dumelang gore ke yone e e gaufi le batho, e e neng e tshwanetse go dira ditiro tsa batho. Go botlhokwa thata Se sengwe se se latelang ke gore ke nnete e le lantlha ke gore re nne le thulaganyo ya Executive Mayors and dumalana le Vice President (VP), letsatsi leno o itikile Chairpersons tsa dikhansele, ba ba nang le dithata tsa thata, gore go a tlhokafala gore dikgaolo tse dingwe tse go tlhabolola magae. Se sa gompieno se se diragalang, di bidiwang sub-districts gompieno, di fetolwe e nne sa ga Rre Molale, sa specially elected councillors, se full districts. Ke gore fa o tsaya District ya Central, e na jaanong se setseng se kgotlelesegile thata ka gore ga le batho ba le 500 000, ya Kweneng e na le close to 300 a tsamaise special election sentle. O fitlhela jaanong a 000, o a bona gore golo fa go tlhokafala gore go nne le tlhophile ditsala le maDomkrag, ke gore a sena sepe le districts tse di ntsi. Go a tlhokafala kwa Central District nonofo gotlhelele. Gone moo ka bogone ga go ka ke ga gore go nne le districts, ke simolole ka yone ya Boteti, re berekela, go batla gore dikhansele di nne le bodiredi gongwe a tle a lemoge selo seo gore se botlhokwa, ke jo bo tsepameng, jo bo popota, bo na le dikitso. Go se gatelele gore ga re bue dikgang ka go tlhowa batho; botlhokwa thata batho betsho. ya Boteti, Bobirwa, Tutume le Tswapong di ka nna full districts. Go a tlhokafala gore go nne jalo batho betsho Ke supe gape gore dikhansele ke tsone tse di gaufi le gore ditlamelo di tle di kgone go goroga motlhofo kwa batho. Kgang e ya metsi e tshwanetse go boela kwa bathong. Gompieno go thata gore ditlamelo di goroge dikhanseleng, Water Utilities ga e kgone. Kgang ya ka gore districts tse dingwe di ditona fela thata. Sone clinics, bogolo primary health care fela yotlhe, a e seo re tsaya gore Tona o tlaa se ela tlhoko, e bile ka le boele kwa dikhanseleng. Dikgang tsa primary schools, nna le bua gore decentralization… gape ka gompieno e

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bile o kare General Khama o le tenne thata, gongwe le HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… tlaa kgaoganya ka kwa Central District. MR MOTAOSANE: Ke ne ke re ke leboge Tona Rre E ya social protection ke re… Molale ka fa a re neetseng pego ya gagwe ka teng. Ke itumela thata ka ke a itse gore lephata le o kile wa le HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. bereka thata mo dingwageng tse dintsinyana, tse di MR LUCAS: …re a utlwa, re utlwile ka wena Tona fetileng. Le ne le dira sentle, go ne go bonala ka nako le badiredi ba gago gore you are reviewing social ya teng. Ke go kope gape gore le bodiredi jo bongwe jo protection policies. Ka re e re fa le di sekaseka jalo, bogolwane, jo o nang le jone kwa ofising ya gago, ka benefits tsa teng le dire gore di tsamaelane di boturu ke a itse ke batho ba ba fetileng ka diatla tsa gago, o ba jwa botshelo. Ke gore fa o leba Ipelegeng le Destitute sekasekele. O name o kgoromeditse le bone, ka ba itse Policy, e re fa le dira benefits, di tsamaelane le boturu dikgang tse di leng melala mo lephateng le la gago. jwa botshelo. Le se ka la dira fela go bo gotwe re baya P500, go sa lebiwa boturu jwa botshelo. Go botlhokwa Ke leboge Mothusa Tautona, fa a bua ka sub-districts a thata gore e re jaaka le ntse le sekaseka jalo, ka e bile supa gore jaaka re eletsa gore gongwe tse dingwe di ka le a go rata, sekasekang mme le bo le lebile boturu jwa fetolelwa mo go nneng districts, e re pele ga re dira jalo, botshelo, batho betsho. re bo re gopotse tse re sa bolong go di dumalana mme di ise di dirwe sub-districts kwa dikgaolong tsa tsone. E ya bana, kana e ka fa tlase ga gago Tona, molao Sekai; Thamaga, Lentsweletau le Mogoditshane go ka wa Children’s Act wa 2009, go tlaa batla gore le one thusa go isa ditlamelo ka bofefo le ka bonokopila kwa jaanong o diragadiwe ka botlalo. Go na le ditshwanelo bathong. tse di kwalwang mo molaong o; ya thuto, botsogo le bonno. Yone ya bonno thata, go lebega go na le bana ba Pele ke go kope Rre Molale gore tota fa go ne go le bantsi ba e leng gore ga ba na bonno jo bo tlhapileng, kgonega, lephata la gago jaaka sebui sengwe se ne se mme ga re diragatse molao o. Go a tlhokafala tota gore re, naare ga re nke re gana budget, madi a ga a lekana re diragatse molao o rraetsho, bana ba kgone go nna le lephata la gago, le fa e le go le gonnyennyane, it is not bonno fela jaaka go kwadilwe mo go one. even two third of se lephata la gago le se tlhokang. Go botlhokwa gore nako nngwe fa le dira budget, le fe E ya rural development ke re batho betsho, kana dikhansele ideal budgets, ba dire budget ya bone le bo dikgaolo ga di ka ke tsa tlhabologa go sena ditiro. E re le ba neela gore ba ye go dira se ba eletsang go se dira, fa le ntse le bua jalo, o bue le Morolong ka wena ka re tle re bone gore a ga di na go ntsha maduo. Dinako tse kwa gore investors tsone tse o fitlhelang ba di palamela tsotlhe bana ba Modimo ba tlhola ba thulathulega ba ya difofane ba ya mafatsheng, e re fa le bua le tsone le kwa, ba dira budget ya bone; e bo e kgaolwa, kgantele ba bolelele gore go na le metse-selegae, dikgwebo tse fa e busiwa, e kgaolwa gape, la bofelo gatwe selo ke dingwe le di ise teng gore batho ba tle ba kgone go ceiling; ga ke itse gore a ga e ke e wa bogolo. Golo mo bona ditiro teng. Bontsi jwa dikgwebo tse di tlaabong go dira gore dikhansele di nne ditshururu e kete ga di gotwe di biditswe koo tsone tsa private investors, ba kgone, ka gore tota le gone to manage that small budget, felela gone mo Gaborone. Kwa le rona batho betsho, go ba dira ditiro tse dingwe ka letshogo la gore a madi a ga na le batho ba ba batlang go bereka ditiro tsa maemo, a na go fela pele ga ngwaga wa madi o wela. Jaanong, e seng Ipelegeng fela. Batho betsho, gone moo go ka a ko letsatsi lengwe o ba neele mongwame o re nnyaa, thusa mo rural development. Ga gona gore re ka nna bongwanake gompieno just do your ideal budget, le le ditlhabologo go sena ditiro; ditiro tsa tlhwatlhwa le bo le e tlisa; re bo re le neela. You will then see gore sennelaruri di a tlhokafala kwa magaeng le gone. Ke a dikhansele di tshotse bokgoni jo bo kana ka eng. leboga Mr Chairperson. Human resource; ke na le mathata ka gore go nna go MR MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA-KUMAKWANE): na le diphatlha tse di sa thibiwang kwa dikhanseleng, Tla ke go leboge Modulasetilo, ke bo ke leboge Rre mme boammaaruri jwa kgang ke gore, bodiredi bo a Molale mo… tlhaela. A typical example, I will always cite Kweneng, e bile ke ntse ke le kopa gore give Kweneng a special HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... dispensation because of mabaka a e rileng nako ele fa MR MOTAOSANE: Ga ke tlhasele ope, a ko le sub-districts di dirwa, Kweneng e bo e sa kgone go inketlele. Ga ke wa lona, naare le lebetse? fitlhelela pele. Gompieno jaana, if you give Kweneng

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a budget, Mogoditshane-Thamaga Sub-District; ya sebopego se ke bonang o kare re tlaa di aba ka sone, ga population e e close to 200 000, e tlaabo e neelwa go re beye ka fa go siameng ka teng. gongwe P91 million for argument’s sake, go bo gotwe Sua Town e neelwa P156 million, where is the logic in Jaaka Honourable Molale a ne a bua, o bona kgang ya that? Go tlhamaletse gore Mogoditshane ka bo yone fela collecting rates, re sale re ikuela re le khansele gore mo is the second populated village in the whole country, Mogoditshane, bogolo fa re sa collect rates tsa malwapa, and that is why we are advocating gore ka tsweetswee, let us collet tsa dikgwebo, but go emisitse monwana a e dirwe an administration authority, Thamaga Sub- wa ga Tona fela gore a re reye a re, go ahead; ga go District le Lentsweletau di tswe mo go yone di ye go diragale. Re ka bo re ka tlhoke madi kwa Mogoditshane- ikemela. Dikgang tse fa re sa di sale morago, ga re kitla Thamaga Sub-District. Mogoditshane jaaka o e itse, re nna le …(Inaudible)… bona gore gompieno kgwebonyana ya dikoloi e eme, mme Mogoditshane e na le madirelo a a seng kana ka Go tilwe go na le bo zero growth. Ke ne ke tsaya sepe. Jaanong, ke kope gore o beye monwana mogolo gore e tlaa re fa go tualo, go bo go tewa seemo se se re dire. tshwanetseng gore khansele e bo e na le bodiredi jo bo ntseng jaana le jaana, kana sub-district e ntse jalo. Fa Primary schools; ke sale ke tla ka Tshutiso ke le Mokhanselara seven years ago gore, let us contract gotwe zero growth, ke tsaya gore they cannot create dikonteraka tse di botlana di re thuse for maintenance. other positions, mme diphatlha tsotlhe tse di leng teng Sekai, fa o le mo Thamaga, go bo go tsewa rakonteraka di tladitswe (filled). Gompieno they are budgeted for, yo o rileng, e bo e le ene a baakanyang dikole tsotlhe tsa kgantele madi a teng a dirisiwa mo go bo travelling, Thamaga le facilities tsotlhe tsa khansele, go a pala. Ke batho ba sa hiriwe and we are suffering kwa dikgaolong, ne ke e bua from experience gore, fa re ka dira contracts ga re bone services. tsa sebopego se, it was not going to be costly jaaka go ntse gompieno. Fa re re re dira maintenance, o fitlhela Ke bue fela go le go khutshwane ka Thamaga Sub- e le gore ka gore ga re sale maintenance plan ya rona District. Gompieno it was created gotwe it is a hybrid ya five years morago, nako le nako fa re ntshitse; go service centre, when you go there today, it is a shame. tla go kgaotswe, re ya go dira di le five instead of 15 They are now pulling bodiredi jo bo kwa Thamaga, nako as envisaged by the council. Golo mo go re baya ka fa le nako bo a tlisiwa as if Mogoditshane is now acting as mosing, Goromente is spending madi a mantsi ka gore our headquarters. We were not created to be a sub-district fela fa a tswa gone fa, jaanong maintenance costs bo ya Mogoditshane, we were created to be sub-districts, re P2.5 million, P3 million and so on. Fa re ne re ka leka bo re kopana, re tshwanelwa ke gore fa re tswa foo, sub go dira contracts le dikonteraka tse di potlana tse di district nngwe le nngwe e bo e ikemetse in a space of five tlhwaafetseng kwa magaeng, go ka nna cheap. years or so. Go a pala, jaanong ba tsaya bodiredi jotlhe jo bo kwa Thamaga ba bo tlisa Mogoditshane, this is not HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… fair. Re kopile gantsi kwa ministry gore ka tsweetswee, MR MOTAOSANE: Kwa bofelong pele fa ke ya koo, re thuseng re le Kweneng. Le a itse gore gompieno Honourable Minister, Dikgotla tsa rona ga di a siama. as we speak, le fa kwa dikhanseleng tse dingwe jaaka Dikgosi tsa re ga di itse Director wa bone, e sale jaaka Southern, it is smaller than Kweneng by far, but e na ba tsena mo Bogosing, ga ba ise ba mmone, ga a ke a le four fully-fledged sub-districts. Rona e rile fa di sena ba etela kwa dikgaolong go ya go bona gore ba tsogile di dumelwa after a struggle sa gore le bodiredi bo ne jang. A ko o kope Director a tsamaye a ye go bona batho bo setse bo re bolaa, e bile kwa Thamaga gone go le ba gagwe kwa dikgaolong. worse Honourable Minister, e re fa ba go fa dipalo, fa ba tsaya Lentsweletau ka gore ba ne ba batla go e tlisa pele MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Your time is up ga Thamaga, go tlaabo go tsewa Lentsweletau, Kopong Honourable Member. and the whole sub-district, kwa Thamaga fa go tsewa the population, go tsewa ya the village of Thamaga, they MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): forget about the satellite villages jaaka bo Kumakwane, Thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, I am not Mmankgodi, Kotolaname, Lesilakgokong, Gakgatla, too well today, but I wanted to also air my views. Firstly, you name them, ba tlogela dipalo tsa teng, go bo gotwe let me take this opportunity to note and congratulate our kwa Thamaga batho ba 18 000, kwa Lentsweletau ba Mayor of Selebi Phikwe, Honourable Lucas Modimana, 17 000. Dilo tse fa re ka simolola go aba ditlamelo ka it appears that the town is in good hands and courtesy

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of Honourable Molale who appointed him a Specially is subservient or sub to any other tribe. It is a principle Elected Councillor. However, that does not take away that we have always espoused as the Umbrella for the principles espoused by the Umbrella for Democratic Democratic Change (UDC); Botswana Congress Party Change (UDC), that there is a need to fairly appoint (BCP), and as the Botswana National Front (BNF). Local Government Councillors, especially elected Since your fallout with General Khama; go to Hansard councillors equitably. Mr Chairperson, we have been saying these things that there is a need to have Bobirwa and Tswapong as Mr Chairperson, the Decentralisation Policy was fully-fledged districts.Lona le bua maabane jaana after promised around 2008/2009; it has been almost a decade. your fallout with former President, and now this thing Also, it has been a long time since a study was done in is taking a different turn. There is a veiled attack of which Decentralisation Policy was recommended. The Bangwato. Rona Bangwato re tlaa ipuelela. UDC contents Mr Chairperson, that we need to have Executive Councils; there is need for de-concentration HONOURABLE MEMBER: O Mongwato wena? and devolution of powers from the Central Government to Local Government. We need Executive Councils in MR KEORAPETSE: Ke Mongwato kwa ga Konyana which there is direct election of Mayors and Council fa o sa itse. You must know that Bangwato have Chairpersons, and this can only be feasible if we have Paramount Chief. Ba na le Kgosikgolo ya bone ke Ian sub-districts made into fully-fledged districts. So it is Khama Seretse Khama. Growing up, my father was a very, very important. staunch BNF member, but in our living room, there was always a picture ya ga Kgosi Seretse Khama Ian I would like to reiterate what Honourable Lucas was Khama. Go na le picture ya ga Sir Seretse Khama, e le saying, that in line with the Alma-Ata Declaration, we Dikgosi tsa gagwe, mme ene a itse gore ke Mongwato. need to have the primary health care. We need to have So, you are not going to win this war ka ditshele tsa gore clinics under the full control of Local Government and you had a fallout le General Khama. Rona Bangwato, Rural Development. Mr Chairperson, it is very important re tlaa tswelela re le Bangwato, UDC or not. It does that water is taken back to the council. Education; we not matter where Lieutenant General Dr Seretse Khama need to engage in the robust debate Honourable Molao, Ian Khama’s side of politics is, he remains Kgosikgolo on how education can better be provided at a primary ya Bangwato, o tlaa tswelela a tshwanelwa ke tlotlo e a school level through Local Government. tlotliwang ka yone.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. One of the Dikgosikgolo tse ke di ratang, ke Kgosi Kgafela. You know what he said when he was MR KEORAPETSE: O ne o re o tlhalosa Alma-Ata. derecognized, a re, go tshwana le motho a bua a le I yield. kgakala re sa utlwe gore a reng. Ke gore fa o re you have derecognized Kgosikgolo ya Bakgatla; because Kgosi e HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ee! a tsalwa, you are not going to stand in Parliament and try MR KEORAPETSE: I yield. to make some law, or some declaration to derecognized motho. So, you must respect General Khama as Kgosi ya MR TSHERE: Clarification. Thank you very much. Bangwato. You must respect Dikgosi ka go farologana. For the benefit of our honourable on the other side who do not know what Alma-Ata is. Alma-Ata is a city which HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… declared on public health. It was a conference over 40 MR KEORAPETSE: Nnyaa, mme ke ba tladitse. years ago which declared that the backbone of health is primary health, and it should be on the hands of the HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… people. Thank you. MR KEORAPETSE: Mr Chairperson, it is very MR KEORAPETSE: Thank you very much for this important for the councils to have holding companies, explanation. There is a need as I said, to unbuckle these and these holding companies must link up with foreign big districts; like the Central District. Where we differ investors and domestic investors. I do not understand with the ruling party, they seem to be very angry after why kwa North West for instance, the North West their fallout with General Khama. Ours is a principle District Council e sa own a resort, concession or park that developments must reach the people; that, no tribe because that way, we can have these councils generating

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revenue. This revenue, when it gets into the councils, it Mr Chairperson, in summary, we need the must not be remitted to the Central Government, it must Decentralization Policy like yesterday. We need this remain locally, and develop the local district. sub-districts to be fully-fledged districts. A re tlotleng Dikgosi tsa Bangwato. When I visited my cousin in England, I remember a ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION time where she asked me to accompany her to council (MS MAKWINJA): Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. Ke beke offices because she was changing accounts. The way in ya bobedi ke ntse ke kgaratlha ke sa bonwe. Jaanong which they collect the levies, taxes and all these other gompieno ke leboga fela go menagane Modulasetilo. revenues, they just use technology, money is debited Ka a le kalo Modulasetilo, ka re ke leboge Tona, o dirile tiro e ntle thata, le fa re ntse re mo gakolola fale directly from the account, there is nowhere you have le fale. Ke tlaa tsaya dintlha di le pedi di le tharo, Rre to queue and pay. We need to also emulate and adopt Motaosane le Rre Kablay, ba di tsere tsotlhe, tse ke neng technological advancements where it can be made easy ke tlaa di bua. for our citizens to pay revenue to Local Government. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… In that way, we can raise revenue, and that revenue can develop our towns and villages. MS MAKWINJA: Honourable! Batlotlegi Kablay le Motaosane, ba di tsere tsotlhe, e bile di utlwetse. Ke go Specially Elected Councillors; that practice bagaetsho, leboge Tona, ka o bua ka gore o tlile go dira mo gotweng let us just agree that it is serving us no purpose or a Village Score Card, e bile o bua ka gore o tlaa lebaleba little purpose in this day. We need to do away with it. diphatlha tse di teng tsa mebereko, gore o di tlhabolole, If you think that the councils have fewer numbers, let o bone gore e tlaa nna diphatlha tse tota di tlhokegang us go to the people so that the people decide on who gore di tsamaise Puso ya dikgaolo. Selo se se sesha, ke they want to elect into those councils. What Honourable santlha ke se utlwa, e bile re a se lebogela rona ba re Molale did by distorting the majority in certain districts tswang mo private sector. like Bobirwa, and even in Ghanzi, it is very bad. Where the people decide to elect their own representatives, and O bo o bua ka skills audit. Re e lebogela thata ka gore then the special nominated distribute these positions go tlaa raya gore tsone diphatlha tseo, di tlile go kabiwa as patronage; secondly, to distort the voice of the ke batho ba tota di ba tshwanelang. Tona, fa o dira people. The people have decided that UDC must lead jalo, o itse gore kana go tlile go nna le diphatlha tse in Bobirwa and Ghanzi, the same way it is leading in gongwe di leng teng mme di sena mosola, mme batho the whole of North West and other places. Honourable ba teng mo teng. O bo o akantse diphatlha tseo gore a Molale through the stroke of a pen, decides to overturn le tsone o ya go di sekaseka go bona gore batho ba ba the … What was so sad Mr Chairperson, is that, he had mo teng, ba tsamaya le moono wa transformation jaaka actually made an assurance in Parliament that he was not re o bua kwa dikhanseleng. Ke gopola gore fa o beile going to do that. These reminds me of what happened in madinyana golo gongwe, like you are rationalising the 80s in Francistown. jaana, ditiro tse o bonang gore ga di tlhokafale mme batho ba le mo teng, gape o ka se ka wa ba tsenya golo HONOURABLE MEMBER: 84! gongwe kwa ba tshwanetseng go tsena teng, o bo o ba atswa ba sutelelana. Fa o sa dire jalo, re tlaabo re nna MR KEORAPETSE: This was in 1984; where le mokgweleo wa gore ditiro di a fela, batho ba nna foo People’s Party had the majority, and the appointing ba iphotlhere mme kgwedi le kgwedi ba tsaya madi. authority decided to appoint majority from the ruling Social protection; re a e lebogela gore le bo le sekaseka party. When the Botswana People’s Party (BPP) mananeo a Tona. Nako e tsile gore re bue ka dilo tse threaten court action, more appointments were made, di tshwanang le social protection tax. Ke e leng gore and guess who was footing the Bill; the tax payer. So, makgetho a percentage e e rileng, a a tswang mo go rona this behavior, I know some do not look at it that way, le mo bagwebing, gore ka re tshabelelwa ke dihawa tsa but just calculate; Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) go tlhoka ditiro kana dikompone di tswalwa, batho ba councilors contribute I think is P500. 00 to the party sala mo legoeleleng, a thusa foo, a ba a thusa le social every month. Just go and check how much the BDP gets protection gore di nne sustainable. from these specially appointed councilors alone. If this is not corruption, I do not know what else will constitute Bo Ipelegeng ba, re tshwanetse go ba fetola, gore ba corruption. nne ditiro tse e leng gore jaaka go setse go builwe, di

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tlaa nna jaaka tsa bogologolo. Ditiro tsa teng gompieno gongwe ga re tseye Bogosi jaaka bo tshwanetse go o a di bona, matamo ao le ditsela tseo di ntse di teng. tsewa. Jaaka ke ntse ke tsamaya ke buisa diphuthego, Village Development Committee (VDC) go setse go bommaboipelego ba re, “Mma Makwinja, sengwe builwe Tona. VDC tse di dira tiro ya Mapalamente, se o tshwanetseng go re thusa ka sone, ke bana le Dikgosi le Makhanselara, tota ke yone Palamente ya basadi ba ba kgokgontshiwang, a moretlwa o lele mo motse. Le tshwanetse go sekaseka kgang e ya VDCs go bakgokgontshing.” Ke dilo tse Bogosi bo ka thusang bona gore le di thusa jang. fela thata mo go tsone. Borangwanaagwe Kgosi ba botlhokwa thata le bone ka go thusa go kgalema le go O buile ka maintenance kana paakanyo ya dikago; ke tsamaisa merero ya motse. A re tseyeng Bogosi jaaka bo leboga thata Tona ka o bua gore betsho, a e re re ise re ntse. Borangwanaagwe Kgosi fa ba le teng, hereditary, age mo go sha, re bone mo go leng teng, mo go ntsintsi, e botlhokwa thata. Ba ba itlhophelwang bagaetsho, a o bua ka technical colleges, community halls le tsone dikole tota di phutlhame. Ra re, a re baakanye dikole re ba fe tlotla e e re e fang wa hereditary. Re se ka ra le dikago tseo. Ke lebogela mogopolo wa gago wa two sokamela ntlha e le nngwe. Kgosi e a tlotlwa, lefoko la to three-year contract, tse di tlaabo di itebagantse le to yone le agelwa mosako. maintain dikole. Ke boelela jaaka ke kile ka bua ka re, Tona, se sengwe se ke neng ka se rata, o bua ka gore le in the district kana constituency, re sekaseke bana ba tlaabo le dira Rural Development Policy. Policy e Tona, ba na le Trades tsa carpentry le plumbing, re ba dire a fa e ne e ka tsenya bojanala le tshomarelo tikologo, ke cluster. Re dire ditiro ka ditiro tse betsho ka gore, bana dilo tse pedi tse mo kgaolong ya rona di ka thusang fela ba rona ba na le Trades tse. Go tlaabo go tla boratoropo thata go tsenya letseno mo dikhanseleng. Constituency e le bone gotweng ba tlile go dira dilo tse. Ke ka go Fund go setse go builwe ka yone. Tablets; go na le bana bolelela gore mesele ya pula le masecurity a the clinics, kwa Selebi Phikwe ba ba dirang tablets. Bagaetsho, a o tlaa fitlhela batho ba teng ba tswa mo ditoropong, mo re emeng nokeng bana ba, re reke tablets tse and not metseng e metona, ba ya mo metsaneng e e tshwanang import. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. le Lentsweletau le Kopong. Ke bone ba yang go dira security. Bagaetsho, golo mo tota go re beile ka fa MINISTER OF NATIONALITY, IMMIGRATION mosing. A re boneng gore re dirisa bana ba metse eo AND GENDER AFFAIRS (MS MOKGETHI): Thank go dira ditiro. Re a mpampetsa betsho mo dikhanseleng you Mr Chairperson. Thank you for this opportunity to le mo Central Government ka ditiro. Ga re lebe bana also contribute to this budget. I want to say that I really ba ba mo dikgaolong tseo. Eo tota ke batla go e emela appreciate the budget and I support it. However, let me ka dinao, e bile ke tlaa tsena ntlo le ntlo go bona gore a just highlight that most of the time in Botswana, we security se palelwa ke go hira bana ba ba mo motseng, welcome rain. When we have spoken we say, “Pula!” ba tla ba rwele ba bone. Golo mo, ga go ka ke ga re or we say, “goroga ka Pula!”, but in my constituency, berekela tota. Gaborone Bonnington North, there are occasions when rain is not welcome. Sometimes when it rains, some of Decentralisation; Rre Motaosane o e buile, ga ke tle go my constituents in some areas say, “rain, rain, go away, e ama. Ke ka bua fela gore, constituency ya me e na le come back another day,” because we do not have storm dikhansele tse pedi; Mogoditshane le Molepolole. Ke water drainage in Gaborone Bonnington North. na le more than 42 000 people. Fa ke bua jaana, palo eo e ya go nna bo 60 000 fa go nna census ka 2021. When the showers come down in Gaborone Bonnington Fa o bua ka fully fledged sub-district, o bua ka kgaolo North, they wreak havoc. Dams are formed on the ya me e tona. Fa go tlhabololwa kwa Molepolole, roads, potholes and people’s yards. Water from the rain Mogoditshane, Lentsweletau, Mmopane, Kopong, enter people’s yards, generally, storm water creates Hatsalatladi, Mahetlwe, gatwe ke region, ga go na sepe a problem. I would respectfully ask the Honourable se se yang teng. Bona Mid-Term Review, o tlaa mpha Minister to go back to Gaborone City Council and check letsogo Tona. Ke dilo tse di utlwisang botlhoko. if we do not have the Stormwater Master Plan of 2008, check it out Honourable Minister and see if you cannot Dikgosi; ke a leboga Mothusa Tautona gore Bogosi implement the Gaborone Bonnington North Stormwater bo tshwanetse go tlotlwa thata. Bogosi bo tshwanetse Plan because lack of stormwater drainage is creating a go thusa Goromente go kgalema le go godisa bana. problem for my constituents. When water enters their Gompieno lefatshe le la rona ga re itse gore re ya kae, yards and homes, it causes damage to their property. re tswa kae, ke tlhakantshuke. Jaaka motho a ne a bua, Imagine that you have just gone to a furniture store and

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you have started entering into an agreement to buy new Be as it may, I thank Honourable Pule, the Deputy furniture and then it is destroyed by the rainwater all Speaker for the support. We agree very well that the because of lack of stormwater drainage. feedback circle e ne e le developmental setting, it is important. If the feedback circle is broken, then those Honourable Minister, consider giving Gaborone City things that go wrong will never be identified until it is Council (GCC) …bite the bullet and give GCC enough too late and to rectify them becomes even more costly… money for the Gaborone Stormwater Master Plan. Bite (Laughter!)… Mogwagwadiake ga a a robala, le mo the bullet, even if it costs half a billion Pula, it is worth it reeditse sentle, a ko le mo tlogeleng, ao! because the time has now arrived. Ever since I became a politician in 1997, people of Gaborone have been crying HONOURABLE MEMBERS: … (Murmurs)… over the issue of stormwater drainage. I am really, really happy only today because I want you to take note of MR MOLALE: Mr Chairperson, one thing that I it because it is not only affecting my constituency, but must hasten to say with regard to issues around social it is affecting the entire Gaborone City. This Gaborone protection is that as much as we need to capture is the City, it is the capital of the whole of Botswana everybody who is in need, we also have to make these and it is absolutely befitting and the time has arrived for programmes efficient, they have to be targeted. We Gaborone and the greater Gaborone to have stormwater continue to fund people who otherwise would not be installed. I now move to the issue of primary schools; benefiting from these and as a result of the scarcity of Block 6 and Block 7 in my constituency do not have resources, those probably who are in most need being primary schools. Ke selelo sa khuranyoyameno put aside until such time that we have money. These Honourable Minister, in my constituency because are some of the things that we will have to relook and children in Block 6 have to go to Mogoditshane primary reconsider and not just tweak Honourable Kapinga, schools to gain access… transform them. One such example is the Ipelegeng programme. Ipelegeng started as a self-targeting wage MR CHAIRPERSON: Order Honourable Member, rate programme where it was not supposed to compete your time is up. I now call upon the Honourable with the market wage rates. It should so continue Minister of Local Government and Rural Development, because it should be a temporary programme, such that Honourable Mothibi Eric Molale to reply to the debate. we create jobs through programmes like I was talking of maintenance of self-employment and so forth, where we MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND would then have more and more people moving away RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MOLALE): Thank from Ipelegeng. Where we have Ipelegeng, it should be you Mr Chairperson. Let me first and foremost thank my such that, as I said in my speech, it becomes a productive colleagues for having supported me in my presentation. programme, it should not just be a programme that pays To be honest, I was expecting something more worse … people for no visible outcome or impact. (Laughter!)… I did say Honourable Pule that a total of 306 primary HONOURABLE MEMBERS: … (Murmurs)… schools do have these tablets. The problem is that in most cases because of lack of experience or knowledgeable MR MOLALE: …but as it is most of those who spoke, people, some of these tablets have not yet been put into I agree with them. When we talk transformation, it is use. That is also something that I am going to attend to not just about changing the way we do things in a once as a matter of urgency. off thing or a kind of manner, it is continuous change which is not just incremental, but kind of exponential, I agree with Honourable Hikuama for once, I have to running with time and also responding to the needs of be sincere, the proliferation of villages and settlements society. Our society has become more and more affluent is not cost effective. In fact this Government, be it a and complex. What used to be a request for a tar road few years ago, talked of having to gravitate the need between Ramotswa and Gaborone is now a request for for growth towards designating certain places as growth a dual or triple carriageway, so we have to continuously centres. In this case, as he was saying Kareng should be respond to those. As we do that, it is not that resources the growth centre because it is already in existence and are readily available for that, priorities have to be made, it must be done in a manner that when those people are discussions have to be undertaken and consultations moved from wherever they want to set up a village, they have to be undertaken. must come with the whole social fabric that they have

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been living with, they must have their own Headman Member of Parliament is now the authorising person on of Arbitration or otherwise who will continue with that that particular vote you are talking about? Thank you. kind of life but within a village setting. Those are the things we are going to attend to. MR MOLALE: I do not know what authorising means, but I assume that the selection process for projects, the Yes, if wishes were horses, we would all ride, the need final arbiter, the final decision maker, ke Mopalamente. for a helicopter is very, very real in the setting of the Then we give to the council to implement. North West District. Having worked in that district for more than 10 years, I know what he means, but we are HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)... competing for the meagre resources. I think we should MR MOLALE: Gatwe bo Kekgonegile ba aga for the time being, continue to build alliances with these restaurants, I do not know if that is true. Honourable lodge owners so that we are in partnership in doing Kwape, I agree with you... some of the Government services because ba na le those means. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Molale, can I request that maybe that letter can be multiplied then we The constituency projects; Honourable Members, I did distribute it amongst Members of the House tomorrow, th on the 13 of February, instruct my Permanent Secretary please. (PS) to write to councils. I have said that each of you should be given a copy on the involvement of Members MR MOLALE: In fact, Mr Chairperson, I had directed of Parliament in the Constituency Community Projects my officials to proactively do that, but we shall certainly selection and the project memorandum approval. I hope do that. By tomorrow you will all be having this, le ba you have all received this letter. ba lofileng tota. Maybe we will have to do the Setswana version for the sake of Honourable Motsamai. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: No. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... MR MOLALE: Well I have instructed that, because we are saying that this project is the Member of Parliament MR MOLALE: I agree with Honourable Kwape, the who is the final arbiter, it is Member of Parliament driven. pricing mechanism in our procurement system is at There has been misapplication of the project in that in times ridiculous, ka gore when we say children at school some constituencies, we have done what Honourable must be given fruits, you find per unit cost of an apple, Lucas is talking about, Social Justice Commission, we le gone e e swabileng e nnyennyane gotwe ke P10, and see how many villages and we divide by the number of people just let that pass. You will find a bottleya funa, a village, we say each of you take this. What this project gatwe funa; mo go kananyana go o ja P15, and we just was meant to do is come up with projects that would let that pass. So, that is something that we must have that actually make an impact, make change that is visible in inner conscience ya gore, am I doing this for my country any given constituency. So, we are going to enforce that, or it is just for a quick benefit underhand transactions, and I take note from His Honour that we must review that we know are illegal. What are we buying at that the guidelines and we are going to be starting on that. I price from such vendors who overcharge us? There think before the end of the Winter Session, we will have must be something we are buying which we cannot see, completed those guidelines. So that we can then consult and these things must be dealt with. I urge everybody to with you finalise them. rise above all these things and actually help in curbing HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification this thing. Honourable Molale. We have said, and the Government, there is a directive MR MOLALE: Le buile for two hours, I only have 30 to that effect, gore if there is a service provider kwa minutes. Le bua two hours, ke sa le tshwenye, le ba ke Ncojane Honourable Motsamai, yo o nang le disukiri neng kopa clarification ba gana. le flour le eng le eng, go se ka ga tsewa batho ka koloi from Ncojane ba the beneficiaries ba ya go felwa kwa MR TSHERE: Point of clarification. Thank you very Sefalana kwa Charles Hill. That is wrong, ga go a much Honourable Molale, I do not want to take your tshwanela go nna jalo. Assessments; there is a guide for time. I want to know the effect of the letter that you doing assessments for all these many beneficiaries, all said you wrote to the districts. Does it mean that the that has to be done is to ensure that enforcement is done.

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Honourable Kablay, ke dumalana le wena rraetsho, sone se rona e rileng mo Gaborone fa re le Puso ya ga fela ga ke ka ke ka ya go tlhapisa bana, mme gone ba Domkrag, re re re kopa go tsaya madi a ga Mzwinila tshwanetse go tlhapa. gore a tswe kwa Goodhope a ye go tsaya metsi kwa, ra bo re tla Palamenteng le fa go ne ga buega dilo dingwe HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... tse di rileng. So if Parliament has said re aga Kgotla MR MOLALE: We have employed hostel keepers to officekwa Serinane, e na le furniture le koloi, ga gona ka make sure that bana do not become truant, and I do fa e ka reng office e tshwanetse go agiwa kwa Serinane not know what happens fa gotwe ba lala ba le kwa ya bo e fudusiwa ke o sele fela a e isa elsewhere, it has gumbagumbeng. Where is management to ensure that to be Parliament. So, is the vehicles and everything ba itshwara sentle? that is associated with that project as was appropriated here in Parliament. Those are some of the things that fa Honourable Moatlhodi, ke dumalana le wena, we need gongwe we just say things were done that way because to improve. This morning I was having a discussion I was not aware of the law. That is why bo Rre Boko le Rre Segokgo, ke mo raya ke re we need to bring in ba re ignorance of the law is not an excuse. That must new technologies like the question that was asked by be known amongst ourselves here and everybody else Honourable Regoeng maloba ya road construction, ya who has a hand in implementing what has been voted sewerage conveyance pipes and so forth. Nowadays, by Parliament. sekonotere costs P5 million per kilometre and I really wonder if that is the true cost kana is this issue ya Your Honour, I agree with you; digitising will help capture, such that we find ourselves paying too much us to do more with less. That is the basis for our transformation. Gompieno jaana if once a week kwa for little value derived from such. Kgotleng ya Semotswane go bo go atlholwa motho a Borakonteraka; ke tsaya gore e ke ya rona rotlhe, re le mongwe P20.00, the financial regulations dictate tshwanetse ra bua le borakonteraka bogolo jang ka that after a given time period, the Court Clerk there gore, we are saying that we are now going to pay more must go and deposit that money kwa revenue. Jaanong attention to the Small, Medium and Micro Enterprises imagine the cost of taking P20.00 to revenue. This is what transformation is about. The way we do things (SMMEs). So, I think we must all talk to them ka must change such that we get more with the little that gore most SMMEs if not all of them are citizens of we have. this country. I am not sure if Honourable Moatlhodi remembers gore clinics are no longer with us, but it The monitoring and evaluation through the scorecard is my wish that as Honourable Lucas was saying, that and National Strategy Office (NSO) mechanisms; that some of these services must be brought back to Local is what we are going to do. That includes even the Government, ka gore to build an LA2 House from constituency projects. I agree with you Your Honour; Gaborone, o e aga kwa Seronga, the cost triples because we need to collect rates. It boggles one’s mind when of administrative costs associated with that. Instead of we are not paying rates at the new Central Business building the house gongwe for bo P400, 000, you end up District (CBD), Commerce Park and all these malls tse paying P1, 2 million. So, these things we must soberly di runyang in major villages. One assumes that they are look at them, sit down, discuss them with a view to profiteering and getting services from the councils. If actually respond to what Honourable Matsheka said, there was anything that I could have signed which I am to avoid wasteful spending and creating value. That is not aware of that needed gore batho ba ba duele rates, what we need to do. okay Honourable Lucas, bring it to me and I will sign it. This has to be done. There is no free lunch especially for Dikgosi di tseetswe ditempe; let me explain one thing the rich. That has to change. here, and I think those who are Lawyers will agree with me. When we have this session here, it is a session that Recognition of merafe; I think that will be included is premised on a Bill, Molao, Appropriation Bill which under the overall constitutional review which is in the when we have concluded this and agreed it becomes an offing. Absentee Dikgosi; that has been noted. Act. An Act of Parliament e e rebolang madi for that financial year, and anything has to be changed with Honourable Lucas, let me state that before Honourable regard to what has been agreed by Parliament, has to Never Tshabang came to Parliament, I did not know him, come back to Parliament. Nobody else can change it, ke so he could not have been my friend. I gave Honourable

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Tshabang a Specially Elected Councillor, so did I give HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… to Honourable Motsamai, Honourable Mmolotsi and Honourable Keorapetse but they are not gentlemanly MR MOLALE: Le wena o ne o tsile o re ke go fe. enough to say thank you. They start saying this is a bad HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… system and yet they are benefitting from it. HIS EXCELLENCY THE PRESIDENT (DR Secondly, remember wena Honourable Motsamai, the MASISI): Hee! Molale. councils are not constituted through constituencies but through administrative boundaries. If you had six MR MOLALE: Sir. Councillors kwa Ghanzi South e le ba gago, Thiite a na DR MASISI: Pono o ne a reng fa a ipuisetsa kwa le ba le 8, o go jele! Do not say I overturned the people’s godimo jaana? will kwa Ghanzi South. You are illiterate. You should always know gore go buiwa ka ga eng golo fa. MR MOLALE: No sir, Pono ke mogwagwadi wa me. So, o ne a nkomanya thata ka ikoba. Ga gona botsala bope jo bo dirisiwang golo fa, we are implementing the law. I must remind you gore I did not DR MASISI: A batla Mokhanselara? agree with you gore re nne a coalition Government. We are not. Ke bolelela le ba ba buileng botlhe. Understand MR MOLALE: Ee rra. that. I can vouch this; if by stroke of luck, you become HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… the Government, you would not scrap that Specially Elected law. You will not! I know you because you are MR MOLALE: The other issue ke ya sub-districts. hypocrites. At this juncture, nobody can claim ownership ya gore HONOURABLE MEMBER: Tautona a re ga o buise how did sub-districts come into being other than the ba bangwe sentle. Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) Government. Both the Local Government Structure Commission 1, led by MR MOLALE: Askies. Maitshwarelo. the late Lenyeletse Seretse, the then Vice President and HONOURABLE MEMBER: His Excellency (HE) a later led by Pelonomi Venson assisted by Letlhogonolo re ga o buise ba bangwe sentle. Peter Siele showed gore the thought about cutting areas of operations and administration into smaller sizes MR MOLALE: Modulasetilo, I am talking about was necessary. That started that time and over time, those… we have implemented that. That is why in my speech I am saying we are now going to look at the final leg DR TSHABANG: Procedure Mr Chairperson. of that by having some of the sub-districts turned into Thank you Chairperson. I think it is unprocedural and fully-fledged districts. That is what I am saying. This is unparliamentary for Honourable Molale to call other not a once-off thing; it evolves over time and involves people hypocrites. I think he must withdraw that word. consultation. That is why I am clarifying gore Bogosi MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Molale, what do should not think gore dikhansele di ba tseela dithata. you mean by hypocrites? That is the hegemony I am talking about. Dikhansele is about bringing services closer to the people presided MR MOLALE: People who benefit from a thing and over by Dikgosi. then turn around, condemn it and say it is bad. HONOURABLE MEMBER: E tšhaile. MR CHAIRPERSON: Is that an insult? MR MOLALE: Ga e a tšhaya. Iketle ke le bolelele. MR MOLALE: No sir, I am just describing the character of a person. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Okay, go ahead Honourable MR MOLALE: These are some of the things that we Molale. are going to be doing. Underlying all those things that we are going to do, whether it is rates or sub-districts MR MOLALE: Honourable Dr Never Tshabang got a to districts, we will be consulting. We crave for your Councillor wa party ya gagwe kwa Nkange. indulgence in all these so that we come up with a well-

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structured approach of doing things. Ke yone inclusive 0800 and that the Development Budget in the sum of Government eo. One Billion, Two Hundred and Fifty-Two Million, Six Thousand and Ninety-Eight Pula (P1 252 006 098.00) Honourable Keorapetse o siile. Nowhere in my speech be approved and stand part of those estimates. I thank fa ke buang ka sub-districts to districts have I expressed you Mr Chairperson. any anger. I am talking about a process that started long time back before even those he is talking about ever Question put and agreed to. even thought they would be Presidents, Vice Presidents or Ministers. Jaanong fa o bona a siile jaana ke gore he ORGANISATION 1800- MINISTRY OF went off at a tangent and started touring the horizon trying LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER AND to impress, no! Rona re Goromente yo o itlhaloganyang, SANITATION SERVICES yo o iketlileng, yo re rerang, re dira dilo ka kelotlhoko MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please re lebile gore the resource requirements are always note that 2 hours 25 minutes have been allocated to there when we plan these things. Re loga maano, ga re this Organisation and I shall call upon the Honourable loge dintwa tsa Bobonong le Palapye, no! Touring the Minister to reply to the debate at 1605 hours tomorrow horizon, trying to impress, no! we are Goromente yo o and the question shall be put at 1635 hours. itlhaloganyang, yo iketlileng, yo re rerang. Re dira dilo MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, WATER ka kelotlhoko, re lebile gore the resource AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MZWINILA): HONOURABLE MEMBERS:…(Murmurs)… I thank you Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, I am greatly honoured to present to this Honourable House, HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… my ministry’s budget proposals for the financial year 2020/2021. The total budget allocated to the ministry for MR MOLALE: Freddy Ramodisa o teng, passop! financial year 2019/2020 amounted to P4.259 billion; HONOURABLE MEMBERS:…(Murmurs)… which comprised of P3.369 billion for the Development Budget and P889 million for the Recurrent Budget. To MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Honourable Molale, date, the ministry’s expenditure stands at P1.769 billion you must be mindful of time. or 53 per cent of the Development Budget and P821 million or 93 per cent of the Recurrent Budget. MR MOLALE: Ee rra….(Laughter!)… Rural Mr Chairperson, Honourable Members will note that this development; I think what I said in my speech is what ministry has, for the past three consecutive fiscal years, is going to be done and Mr Chairperson, based on the been allocated a significant share of the Development speech that I made, I have made an action sheet, so that Budget, which is indicative of the Government’s Honourable Members from April 1st can monitor the commitment to support the implementation of water, progress that this ministry and Government are making, sanitation and land development programmes as key for ensuring that we take services to the people. Having enablers for the development of this country. The said that Mr Chairperson… reality of implementing such a sizable budget is that, HONOURABLE MEMBERS:…(Murmurs)… on one hand, the ministry is afforded an opportunity to deliver on its mandate, whereas on the other hand, MR MOLALE: …(Laughter!)… koore fa le filwe the turnaround time for delivery of the projects, some Makhanselara, le bo le itatola, le bo le re go didimalwe of which being mega projects, ranges between two to fela ahh!… five years. For this reason, achievements on project MR CHAIRPERSON: Order! Honourable Molale, milestones may not necessarily be apparent to end your time is moving. users in spite of tremendous efforts and huge capital outlay deployed in these projects. The execution of this MR MOLALE: I move that the 2020/2021 Recurrent magnitude of the Development Budget also comes with Budget in the sum of Seven Billion, One Hundred various project implementation challenges that hinder and Forty-Nine Million, Five Hundred and One progress in achievement of the planned project activities. Thousand, Six Hundred and Ten Pula (P7 149 501 The implementation challenges include among others, 610) be approved and stand part of the Schedule of the extensive litigation processes, unforeseen variations in Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill 2020 for Organisation project scope, and procurement delays.

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Mr Chairperson, before I proceed with my budget ministry, we are faced with an ever increasing demand requests for the financial year 2020/2021, allow me to for serviced land across both rural and urban areas, on spend just a few minutes to apprise Honourable Members account of population demographics. The developments on my ministry’s performance in the implementation of have mutually outpaced our ability to optimally expand key policies, strategies and initiatives. out infrastructural footprints to new growth areas. The challenge is further worsened by the fact that we have As Honourable Members are aware, Government has large spans of existing dwelling areas (in-fills), deprived committed to the transformation of the economy from of water supply, roads, sanitation and electricity. a middle income to high income status as envisaged by Consequently, we have a twin challenge of providing the nation’s Vision 2036. It is the responsibility of my infrastructure to the backlog eradication and connection ministry to ensure availability of serviced land, water to new areas. and sanitation services for socio-economic development. Allow me Mr Chairperson, to emphasise that improved We are also in the process of data capturing with its access to these services is essential in creating an associated data quality management issues, and we are enabling environment for the envisioned transformation working on large volumes of manual land data records as it facilitates the required productivity and growth that we are custodians of through our various land of the various sectors of the economy. On that note boards, some dating as far back as the colonial era. The my presentation will highlight the major interventions process entails among others, renumbering of farms and that the ministry will hinge on as it plays its role of transforming legacy data from the conventional system facilitating the national transformation agenda. to the new surveying system, subject to international norms and standards. It should be noted Mr Chairperson, With respect to improvements on land access, Parliament that the process of migrating all this legacy information approved the revised Land Policy in August 2019. It requires substantial deployment of staff manpower as is our view that this policy will broadly optimise land it is most likely going to take us longer than we had administration and management, both from a systemic initially anticipated. We are confident that by June 2020, and economic perspective. In order to optimise the we will start printing and distributing the first secured beneficial usage of land, my ministry introduced a land titles. more user-friendly change of land use model during the Mr Chairperson, in July 2019, Cabinet considered and 2019/2020 financial year. Batswana are now entitled approved the National Spatial Plan (NSP) 2036. The to utilise up to 50 per cent of their masimo (ploughing ultimate goal of implementing the National Spatial Plan fields) for ancillary uses such as tourism and hospitality is to have synchronized and responsive development, as ventures. The facilitation of a flexible change of land we continue to align our developmental efforts to the use model has proven to be popular among our citizenry. global agenda on sustainable development.

It should be noted Mr Chairperson, that as we yield to The NSP further identifies 11 planning regions, each the demands and expectations of our people, we have with distinct features suited to particular economic inevitably faced additional challenges, specifically the opportunities. It further recognises the approach of worsening of land allocation waiting period, which is cluster planning, as it denotes homogeneity of certain by any standard already far too long and burdensome. areas, whose potential could be exploited relative to their Our waiting list currently stands at 686 952 under which economic, socio-cultural and economic peculiarities. In 11 per cent (75 624) is for state land and 89 per cent view of the provisions of the NSP, my ministry endeavors (611 328) for tribal land. Initially the national waiting to implement it through preparing regional, cluster, area list was stated as 1 514 202. However, following the specific and sectorial plans, whose coordination shall be removal from the list of those who do not qualify for assigned to different sectoral stakeholder ministries and plot allocation, we have arrived at the genuine waiting organisations. list of 686 952 applicants. That notwithstanding, we have for this reporting period allocated plots in urban, Mr Chairperson, as we are all aware, challenges of residential, commercial, civic and community as well as inadequate water supply services have clearly become in the agricultural sector. Mr Chairperson, availability a serious concern in Botswana. Botswana is historically of serviced land is inevitably one of the pre-requisites a water-scarce country and in recent years, water for development at any level of the economy. As a shortages have persisted as a result of growing demand,

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exacerbated by the effects of climate change. Climate including construction of potable water pipelines variability and uncertainty brings about extreme from Palapye to Mmamashia (Palapye-Mahalapye, events such as droughts. The country is persistently Mahalapye-Masama, and Masama-Mmamashia experiencing hydrological droughts which have become pipelines); expansion of Palapye, Mahalapye and severe and more frequent. The drought conditions result Mmamashia Water Treatment Plants. The project also in water supply challenges, due to insufficient resources. includes construction of pump stations at Palapye Our groundwater resources have also been significantly and Serorome, construction of break pressure tank at impacted by climate change variables. Tewane, and construction of raw water storage tanks at Mahalapye and Mmamashia. It is the responsibility of my ministry to make water available to the nation as a basic requirement It has to be noted that even with NSC 1 and NSC 2, a for development. On that note, over and above third pipeline will still be required to sustain the water infrastructure development for bulk water conveyance, demand of Southern Botswana up to the year 2030. optimization of available infrastructure for operational From 2030 onwards, we will require a fourth pipeline efficiencies and reticulation of services to new areas, the to cater for the projected demand in the Southern part Ministry of Land Management, Water and Sanitation of Botswana. Services is also engaged in research studies for identification and development of additional resources, Mr Chairperson, among the major projects, the ministry has successfully completed Mmamashia-Kanye Water as well as revision of governance frameworks and Project in December 2019. The entire scheme is done forward planning, to ensure long term water security. and water has now arrived at the final destination of International cooperation on water also remains a key Kanye. I am happy to state that the water situation in role of my ministry to create a friendly environment for the villages of Thamaga, Moshupa and Kanye has access to trans-boundary water resources. Our future improved significantly. In Kanye, we are now working water security is dependent on getting access to water on ensuring that we rehabilitate the distribution network resources which are outside the country. and also complete the sanitation project. The second leg of the same project which runs from Gamononyane to Mr Chairperson, through my ministry, Botswana Molepolole through Thebephatshwa, is at procurement continues to maintain good relations with the countries stage. The Gamononyane-Molepolole scheme will also that it shares trans-boundary aquifers and river basins provide for villages along the pipe route. through organisations such as Limpopo River Basin Commission (LIMCOM), the Zambezi Watercourse The ministry has also, during the financial year (ZAMCOM), the Okavango-Cubango River Basin 2019/2020 engaged consultants to work on the designs Water Commission (OKACOM) and the Orange-Senqu for Lobatse Water Supply Master Plan. Lobatse Water River Basin. Supply Master Plan is a transfer scheme that will convey potable water to villages in the five constituencies Mr Chairperson, within a context of water supply deficits of Lobatse, Moshupa-Manyana, Goodhope-Mabule, coupled with water and sanitation infrastructure that Ramotswa and Mmathethe-Molapowabowang. has been deployed beyond its design span, we continue Implementation of Maun Water Supply and Waste to implement mega water projects both in the form of Water Project has commenced following a challenging water supply pipelines and distribution networks. One period of litigations. Mr Chairperson, following the mega water supply pipeline which we shall continue to completion of potable water reticulation to five villages specifically mention on account of its magnitude and of Bobonong, Molalatau, Mathathane, Tsetsebjwe and the profound impact that its completion will yield, is the Moletemane in the Bobirwa cluster from the Thune North South Carrier 2.2 (NSC 2.2), transmitting water Dam, implementation of the second phase of the project from Palapye to Mmamashia. The project is ultimately is ongoing. The second phase entails the construction of intended to supply villages in the Mahalapye cluster, supply pipelines from Bobonong to Lepokole, and tie- Greater Gaborone, Lobatse, Barolong Sub-District, ins for Mabolwe, Semolale and Gobajango. Thamaga, Moshupa, Kanye and Molepolole and their associated localities. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)…

The North South Carrier (NSC) 2.2 is a major water MR MZWINILA: Mr Chairperson, in Shakawe, transfer scheme which is packaged into various projects, rehabilitation of the existing treatment plant is

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ongoing. The project is meant to increase capacity to Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Twenty Pula (P1, meet heightened demand. Construction of the storage 039,929,220). reservoir, pump station and pipeline are complete. In the Okavango area, following the completion of Seronga to Development Budget Gudigwa Village Water Supply Project, which involved The proposed Development Budget is Two Billion, construction of treatment plant and reticulation of the Sixty-Nine Million, Five Hundred Thousand Pula (P2, treated water to the Seronga Cluster villages, we are 069,500,000). now reticulating water to Mokgacha village, which at the time of implementing the first phase of the project, Mr Chairperson, I will not go much into the details so was yet to be gazetted and designated as a village. that I can avail some time for Honourable Members.

Mr Chairperson, we are also implementing in the Mr Chairperson, as I conclude my presentation of Kgalagadi and Ghanzi areas, where our objective is the 2020/2021 Recurrent and Development Budget to supply potable water to 11 villages in Kgalagadi proposals, I move that the sum of One Billion, North, and seven villages in Ghanzi South. The projects Thirty-Nine Million, Nine Hundred and Twenty- entail verification of both the borehole yields and water Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Twenty Pula quality, deployment of suitable treatment methods and (P1,039,929,220) for the Recurrent Budget be approved potable water reticulation to end users. The project has and stand part of the 2020/2021 Appropriation Bill (No. been delayed by numerous disputes raised on the award 1 of 2020) for Organisation 1800 and that a sum of Two of the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) and Billion, Sixty-Nine Million, Five Hundred Thousand Engineering Consultants Tenders. Pula (P2,069,500,000) for the Development Budget be approved and stand part of the same Schedule of the Above and beyond the numerous land development and Appropriation (2020/2021) for Organisation 1800. I water projects, we also have the Botswana Emergency move accordingly. I thank you Mr Chairperson. Water Security and Efficiency (BEWSE) Project, through a loan from the World Bank Group and we are MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR online, we have actually awarded for the North East and MOLAO): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson, morago ga Tutume Sub-District water supply upgrading, and we pogo e e kalokalo. Ke ema nokeng mokaulengwe gore should do the ground breaking sometimes this month. a fiwe madi a ditlhabololo le tsamaiso ya lephata la We are also online to ensure that the Boteti Cluster gagwe. Ke tlaa simolola ka go leboga ditlhabololo tse Water Supply Project also commences within the next di dirwang kwa kgaolong ya me. Ke tswa kwa kgaolong six months. Construction of Selebi Phikwe-Serule e e ntseng e na le lešhekere le letona thata la letlhoko la Water Transfer Scheme, design and build of Malwelwe/ metsi. Ke kgang e tona e e ntseng e tshwenya batho ba Molepolole/Thamaga water supply from boreholes are Kgaolo ya Shashe West mo metseng yotlhe e le 13. Ke also at the advanced stages and our plan is by June, to go lebogele gore e rile fa re ntse re buisana, la kgona have these commenced. Feasibility Studies and Design go bona ledinyana gore le ye go simolodisa project ya Consultancies for Mambo, Lobatse, Letlhakane projects Borolong-Chadibe le Shashe-Mooke, go nosa batho ba are ongoing, while Ghanzi Township, Nata Cluster kgaolo ele. Ke project e e tsweletseng, batho ba kgaolo and Mmathethe Water Supply Projects are at different e ba ne ba ntse ba le mo lenyoreng, mme jaanong ba na procurement stages. le tsholofelo ya gore e tlaa re mo bogautshwaneng, ba kgone go bona metsi. BUDGET PROPOSALS Ke lebogela gape gore project e nngwe e re tswang Mr Chairperson, the ministry’s proposed budget for kgakala re e bua ya madi a World Bank, e re nang le metse the Financial Year 2020/2021 is Three Billion, One kwa kgaolong ya me e le yone e ntseng e tlhaelelwa ke Hundred and Nine Million, Four Hundred and Twenty- metsi fela thata; kwa Marapong, Marobela le Semitwe Nine Thousand, Two Hundred and Twenty Pula (P3, gore project e e tlang ya North-East Water Scheme, e 109,429,220). tlaa tla e thusa go fokotsa kgotsa go fedisa lenyora le Recurrent Budget batho ba kgaolo ya me ba ntseng ba le mo go lone.

The proposed Recurrent Budget amounts to One Billion, Tona, o ntsholofeditse gore kompone e setse e bonetse. Thirty-Nine Million, Nine Hundred and Twenty- Gongwe mo nakong e e seng kgakala, re tsamaele kwa

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re ye go simolodisa semmuso project e, go supa gore tse abiwe ka thulaganyo e e tsepameng. Golo mo go bonya, re ntseng re di solofetsa; e ne e se ditsholofetso fela tse Batswana kwa ntle ba setse ba na le selelo sa gore go di senang boleng jaaka fa gongwe ba re ganetsanang le dingwagangwaga ba sa abelwe lefatshe. Fa o bona metse bone ba etle ba bue. e mennye e e tshwanang le Natale, Chadibe, Borolong, go na le waiting list, kwa kgaolong ya me; kwa metse- Sengwe se ke eletsang gore gongwe le akofe le le lephata selegae, o ka lemoga gore bothata bo teng. Go tlaa re re le se dire, batho ba lela ka bills tse di kwa godimodimo sekaseka sešha, re ithulaganye sentle gore gone mme, tsa metsi, tse ba ipotsang gore ka go lebaka metsi a sa lefatshe le ka abiwa ka bofefo ka tsela e e ntseng jang, tswe from their taps, bill e e kalokalo e tswa mo go eng. Re tshwanetse go tsibogela seemo se, gongwe fela re sa emela ditlamelo tsotlhe fela tse di tlhokafalang. Re re akofe re dire smart metres tse batho ba ka yang go a itse gore ditlamelo tsa metsi, ditsela le motlakase ga di ithekela metsi jaaka ba motlakase ba dirile, golo mo go ka ke tsa tsamaya ka lebelo le gongwe lona le ka abang ka fedisa selelo sa gore nnyaa, golo fa le ne le abelela lefatshe ka lone. Ke nngwe ya dingongorego tse di teng fela kana ga re dumalane le bill, go nna go iwa kwa le tsa gore batho ka bontsi ga ba fiwe lefatshe. Go tlhoka kwa. Fa e ka nna selo se re ka se itlhaganelelang, se go akanyediwa ka mo go sele, go na le ka fa re ntseng tlaa fokotsa selelo se se kalokalo, le kakanyo ya gore re dira ka teng. kompone ya Water Utilities Corporation (WUC) ga e Metse e mengwe fa o ya kwa kgaolong e ke e emetseng, itse se e se dirang fa go tla kwa go tlisetseng batho bills bangwe ba na le masimo a a saleng ba tewa gotwe re tse ba tshwanetseng go di neelwa fa ba sena go nwa lebile tshimo ya gago, re eletsa go e tsaya re le land metsi. Ke sengwe se ke eletsang gore le se potlakele le board. Motho a bo a ema a letetse gore go tle go le lephata, se ka thusa mo selelong se. buisanwe, go dumalanwe fa go dumalanwang teng, a tseelwe tshimo gongwe a bo a bona gore o ka ya go batla Ke na le kgang e nngwe Tona, ka e bile o wa Lefatshe tshimo e nngwe kae. Go tsweng foo go bewa letlhaku gammogo le Metsi. Dikole tse ke di okametseng, fela, e nna puo ya gore nnyaa, re tlile go tsaya tshimo bogolo jang boarding schools tse ditona jaaka Nata, ya gago go bo go elwa ruri, go sa tlhole go boelwa kwa Mmadinare, Good Hope jalojalo, di na le tlhaelo ya go bone gore, mme jaanong re tsere tshimo ya gago, fa metsi. Gongwe re nne le tumalano e e tlhomameng ya e le gore re a go go duela compensation, re go duela ka gore le re letlelele go ikepele didiba mo dikoleng tse tsela e e ntseng jang, gore motho a tswelele le botshelo go kgona go siela bana metsi. Gompieno fa o ya kwa jwa gago. Nata le Mmadinare, ke selelo le khuranyo ya meno ka gore ke dikole tse ditona tse di nang le dipalo tse Bangwe ba eme jaanong, ga ba kgone go lema one di lekanang le metse e mengwe. Fa o tsaya dipalo tsa masimo a bone kana go dira ditlhabololo tse dingwe ka Mmadinare Senior Secondary School, it is almost 2 000. gore ba teilwe gotwe namang le eme fela jalo, re lebile Ke dipalo fela tse ditona tse di fetang bo Mokgacha, gone fa. Ke dilo tse di teng mo dikgaolong ka bophara, kwa bakaulengwe ba tswang teng. Golo moo, re nne le mme le kwa kgaolong ya me, di teng, batho ba tlhoka go thulaganyo e re ka dumalanang gore re tshwaragane le bewa. Le ba go setseng go builwe nabo gore go lebilwe lona re le lephata, re kgone go epa didiba mo dikoleng masimo a bone, kwa metseng e golelang teng, lephata tse di kalo go thusa. Ka fa go ntseng ka teng gompieno, la gago le ka dirisanya le bone ka fa tshwanelong ba bo kwa Nata Senior School ke matlhotlhapelo, pipe e ba ba tsaya masimo a bone, ba kgone gore ba tswelele le tsayang metsi mo go yone e tshwaragane le e e sielang matshelo a bone. motse wa Nata. Jaanong, go na le tlhaelo fela e tona e le bana ba sa tlholeng ba dirisa matlwana a boitiketso, ba Ke go eme nokeng Tona ka fa o dirileng ka teng go felela ba tlhaga terata ba ya kwa sekgweng. Ke selo se tsibogela seemo sa letlhoko la metsi kwa kgaolong ya se sa siamelang botsogo le thuto ya bone. Mo dikoleng me, bogolo jang se se ntseng se tshwenya thata. Batho fela ka bophara, ke sengwe se re tshwanetseng go se ba kgaolo ele ba ne ba sa robadiwe ke go tsoga masigo nnela fa fatshe re se buisanye, go bona gore re ka thusa ba ya go batla metsi; ba kgarametsa dikiribane, ba sena jang dikole tse di nang le boarding ka go farologana mo sepe se ba se nwang, ba felela ba a nwa mo nokeng, lefatsheng la rona. metsi a a sa tlhatlhobiwang, a leswe, a dira matshelo a bone gore a se ka a nna a segompieno a re a ba eleletsang. Kabo ya lefatshe; Tona, re tlhaloganya gore maikaelelo Selo seo re tswa kgakala re mekamekane le sone. Kgang a Puso ke gore go abiwe lefatshe fa go nang le plan e mme e wetse, fa o ka dira jalo, le Mopalamente Never teng ya gore le abiwa jang, le segiwe, le potielwe, go ke mmueleletse o ka nna fa fatshe, metsi a a goroga kwa

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Tutume le kwa Nkange jaaka konteraka e setse e filwe fa fatshe le wena, ke go thuse. Thuso e kgona go tswa jaana. Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. gongwe le gongwe, e kgona go tswa kwa Shakawe, e e ka dirang gore lefatshe le le ye kwa pele. Ga se gore e MR CHAIRPERSON: Ke kopa go le gakolola sengwe ka tswa mo Gaborone fela. Tona, fa o ka se ke o eme Honourable Members. Ke ntse ke le lebeletse ka fa le ka dinao, re re re tla lala re beile Batswana lefatshe ka tsenang ka teng mo Ntlong e, you do not really comply thulaganyo e re dirang mo go yone, we cannot manage. with the decorum of this House. Le gaisiwa ke Tautona We must change. Rona ba re dikileng mo land boards, le Mothusi wa gagwe. When you come into this House, metse e mennye e tshwana le bo Manxotae, Tsokatshaa, or when you leave the House, you must bow facing the Mmathubudukwane, kwa kae le kae, ka tiro e ya land Speaker. Bontsi jwa lona fa le tsena, motho o tsena a bo servicing, re ya go tsaya 30 years, Batswana ba bo ba a re… re tlhoboga. Ba bo ba re, this led BDP Government e HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… a palelwa, kante re sa palelwe. Jaanong re tshwanetse re bone gore land boards re a di hirela. O dire budget; MR CHAIRPERSON: You must bow facing the maybe supplementary budget, re tlaa go support rotlhe Speaker. Please, a re direng jalo! mo Ntlong e. Some land physical planners; at least each and every sub land board or a land surveyer, ba MR MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): Thank you Mr dire mealonyana e mennyennyane mo metseng e. Metse Chairperson. Mma ke supe fa ke support mokaulengwe e bontsi jwa yone gantsi batho ba teng ba bewa ba le mo kopong e a e kopileng ya lephata la gagwe. 10 or 20 ka ngwaga. Re bo re tlogela metse e metona Mr Chairperson, madi a a mannye fela thata. Maloba ke bo Mogoditshane, Tutume, Palapye, Nata, Ghanzi le e kile ka bua ka kgang e, mme ke tlaa tswelela ke e bua, mengwe fela, e o ka nnang o ntse o e ketlola o lebeletse gore fa ke santse ke le mo Ntlong e, re tlaa bona gongwe sepatšhe sa gago mo land servicing. Tona, kgang e, let us le one ministry o, o nna number four kana number revise it, re ye fela gone kwa Tribal Land Act (Cap:32:0) three fa go fiwa madi. Go na le mabaka a mantsi, re kwa e simolotseng teng, o tlaa bona Batswana ba bewa. lebeletse gore ministry o, fa o bua ka lefatshe, land Gompieno re na le a serious outcry ya gore Batswana ga servicing, ke morwalo wa tiro o o batlang madimadi. ba bewe ditsha, jaanong ba setse ba supa wena o kare o Fa o bua ka metsi, gore o a phatlalatse ka lefatshe la tshwere lefatshe Tona, mme go sa nna jalo. sekaka le tshwana le Botswana, go batla madimadi. Fa o Tona, fa re lebelela ditlhabololo tse o di begileng gone lebelela madi a a fa, dilo ka bontsi ga re na go di kgona fa, dikgaolo tse … in this financial year, segolo jang land servicing. E re ke bua gore ministry wa gago Tona, through you Mr MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Order! Honourable Chairperson, o batla madi, ke leboge Modimo ka dipula Members! tse di nang malatsi a lefatshe le lotlhe; kwa Ghanzi le Kasane. Re ne re setse re sa itse gore rona ba re ntseng MOTION re sena metsi gale, re tlaa dira re reng. Modimo o na le ADJOURNMENT wena Tona fa o bona go nna jaana, se se setseng fela ke gore madi a nne teng, Batswana ba duele rates tsa LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): lefatshe, tsa eng, o tle o dire a proper land servicing ya Thank you Mr Speaker. As this concludes today’s lefatshe la rona la Botswana. business, I move that we do now adjourn.

Mr Chairperson, kana these major infrastructural Question put and agreed to. projects tse ministry o o ka di dirang, di ka tsamaelana le maikemisetso a employment creation. Fa o lebelela The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until th ditiro tsa ministry o, they are across the country. Go Thursday 5 March, 2020 at 2:00 p.m. raya gore fa madi a le teng, ga se gore ministry o tlaa nosa batho metsi to develop infrastructure fela, o tlaabo o le Malala-a-laotswe, o dira ditirelo tsa ditlhabololo and provision ya employment ka seemo sa one.

Tona, a re lebelele kgang e e sokodisang Batswana. It is ten years now. Ke ne ke rile ke tlaa bona nako ke nne

Hansard No 196 36 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr. T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa, Ms M. Madubeko

LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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