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1937-38 Old Timers Interviews by WPA in Have You Heard Are Interesting and Informative Of A Hay Hotel? Do any of you have Sanders or farmer and owns a good comfortable Saunders who were early settlers in home and chicken houses. His children While doing some searches on or the State of are grown and will run the farm while web sites that were connected or Oklahoma? Do you have questions Mr. Saunders and his wife go to Corpus close geographically to Ottenstein, about their American Indian ancestry? Christi for the winter. Germany, the ancestral home of my Perhaps the Western Collections The place here was owned by the old Schaefers (Schäfers), I came across at The University of Oklahoma might Indian called Old Man Tall Bear; it had Heuhotel Sander in Emmenthal. have some answers. Their website at been allotted to him by the Now, a Heuhotel is a hay hotel. It is has some interesting files cre- springs on this place that have never name of Sander. ated by the WPA in 1937-38. These gone dry. This was the Ceremonial I invite you to check out the web records contain some good genealogical Ground for the Indians before the site: and read about the hay hotel. sources of local history. Mr. Saunders story follows: This is not the kind of accommo- Interviewers hired by the WPA wrote I came here from Ohio in 1892. I dations that most of us are looking down family history and stories from drove a team of horses to a covered for. If you are thinking that a hay old time residents of the state. These wagon. I made the run to get a farm in hotel would have you sleeping on were typed up (by the Cheyenne hay in a barn, you would be correct. manual typewriters and Arapaho The web site will also give you - remember them?) opening. All I English versions of their descrip- and they are filed did was to run tions of the “fun on the hay” and here in 116 vol- as I did not get related activities. The translations umes on this web- any land. There are rather mechanical, but I think site. Sanders and were groups of you will get the idea. Saunders are found men and with They have modern plumbing and in Volume 80. them were mar- they ask you to bring a sleeping bag. They are: Dick shals who gave They serve a full breakfast and will Saunders, Elizabeth Old Government Spring on Dick Saunders place. the signal to go. serve a lunch and dinner, if request- Ballard Sanders, This spring is situated at the foot of a small hill Some of the ed. They are located close to the George Sanders covered with elm and walnut trees. marshals did Weser River, which has a bike path (two of them), Jeff not give the sig- alongside. Saunders, Judie Sander, Mr. & Mrs. Sam nal until the others had a fifteen min- “We offer to you: two cosy Sanders, Mrs. Beulah Sanders, Hardy utes start. lounges, two large gardens with cosy Sanders, Lillie Sanders, Robert S. At that time I had thirteen head of corners, grill space, table tennis, Sanders, J. L. Sanders, W. E. Sanders, cattle and a pony beside my team. I children’s playground, Ponyreiten and Wash Sanders. Some of these were gave $125.00 for five acres, $5.00 com- [pony rides], and led night migra- totally or partially unreadable. They mission, where the Baptist Church stood tions [evening hikes].” appeared to be microfilmed copies that near the ceremonial or camp ground were made into PDF files. Many families in Germany go on just east of where the house stands bicycle treks together. I have seen Following are the ones I could read: today. That was in 1906. I filed on a place in 1892, north of here six miles, them on the path by the Weser River at Dick Sanders Bodenwerder. There are also camp- and lived there for about twenty years. grounds along the river. This would be Interviewed on October 19, 1937 by Then I bought this place in 1929 and great for youth traveling on a shoe- Augusta H. Custer. Dick Saunders was have lived here since that time. string. But, thankfully, I have relatives living on Rural Route, Calumet, Okla. This good spring of water was well to stay with over there. (16 miles southeast of Geary). known in this part of the country and Mr. Dick Saunders told the following Don Schaefer, editor was walled by Government men over bit of history concerning his experience in Oklahoma. He has been a successful (Continued on page two) SANDERSSiftings No. 51 Oct/2007 Page 2 Daniel Clarke Sanders, Educator and Preacher, Old Timers Was First President of the University of Vermont (Continued from page one) sixty years ago. It has been a noted DANIEL CLARKE SANDERS (May 3, February 1858); his wife was a victim of camp ground. It is located on the NE 4 1768-Oct. 18, 1850), preacher and edu- occasional attacks of insanity; five of his of Sec. 9-31-12. Three miles west was cator, was born at Sturbridge, Mass., the eight children had recently died in an Powder Face Crossing and cattle and fourth child and only son of Michael and epidemic. Now he was without employ- freight trains went from Fort Worth, Azubah (Clarke) Sanders. After the ment and with few resources save a Texas to Kansas City over this crossing. death of his father in 1773, his mother claim on the University for arrears of East, two miles is Caddo Jake’s married Capt. Ebenezer Fisher of salary. Crossing over which freighters went Needham, where the boy was prepared After preaching for a time in New from Fort Worth to Caldwell, Kansas. for college under the direction of Rev. York City he reluctantly accepted a call These crossings were across the South Samuel West. He entered Harvard, grad- (May 1815) to become pastor of the First Canadian River. uating in 1788. Burdened with the for- Congregational Church of Medfield, Old Government Spring on Dick midable debt of one hundred dollars, he Mass., where his parents and grandpar- Saunders’ place. This spring is situated immediately took employment “keeping ents had been born and where he had at the foot of a small hill covered with a common school in Watertown.” Soon preached his first sermon. During the elm and walnut trees. The small house afterward he became preceptor of the fourteen years of his pastorate here he faces the south. grammar school in Cambridge. Here he gained a wide reputation as a thoughtful studied theology under the guidance of and eloquent speaker. A moderate man, Elizabeth Ballard Sanders Rev. Thomas Prentiss of Medfield. averse to theological controversies, he Interviewed January 18, 1938 by Ella Licensed by the Dedham Association in attempted unsuccessfully to guide his Robinson. Elizabeth Ballard Sanders 1790, he preached as a candidate and as church through that stormy period. was living at 423 North J Street, in a supply in various pulpits in After the stricter Calvinists had seceded, Muskogee, Okla. Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and he found it impossible to stay with the My grandparents on my mother’s side Vermont. In 1794 he was ordained as thorough-paced Unitarians and resigned were ?right Romine and Betsy Riley. pastor in Vergennes, Vt., where two his pastorate in the spring of 1829, Grandfather was an Irishman who came years earlier he had married Nancy, though he continued to reside in into the old Nation in the daughter of Dr. Jabez Fitch. In 1799 he Medfield until his death. early days and married my grandmother, accepted a call to preach in Burlington, The last phase of his career was a half-breed Cherokee. They started where he also kept a private school until devoted to occasional preaching and to westward with the first colony of the organization of the University of public life. He was a delegate to the state known as “old settlers” in Vermont. He was made a trustee of that constitutional convention of 1820-21; 1834. As they were crossing the embryo institution in January 1800, and represented the Medfield district in the Mississippi River on a ferry boat my in October became its first president. Massachusetts House, 1833-36; and dur- grandmother died. His duties while directing the new ing the same years was one of the select- My mother was a small child and university during its first fourteen years men of his town, where later he held never had any very distinct recollection were varied and onerous. He managed other minor positions. His last years he of her mother but said she well remem- its lands and finances, supervised in part spent caring for his invalid wife, whose bered after her mother’s death that they the erection of its first building, and for death in 1850 he survived by only two opened a large chest that contained her some years carried the entire burden of months. He published a number of ser- clothes and she saw a lot of gold money instruction, continuing meantime his mons, one of which, A Sermon, Preached in the chest. They halted on their jour- pastoral duties until 1807. Though stu- in Medfield . . . Near the 166th ney and buried her beside the river. Her dents increased from four the first year Anniversary of the Incorporation of the sister, Mrs. David Carter and her hus- to over fifty in 1813, the university was Town (1817), was the first historical band who were in the party took charge in financial trouble. Hostilities on Lake sketch of Medfield. of my mother and reared her. When Champlain during the second war with [W. S. Tilden, Hist. of the Town of Medfield, they reached their destination they Great Britain disrupted its activities. In Mass. (1887); Vital Records of Sturbridge, located in the vicinity that was afterward the spring of 1814 the trustees suspend- Mass., to the Year 1850 (1906); A. M. known as Park Hill, near Tahlequah. ed instruction, leased the university Hemenway, The Vt. Hist. Gazetteer, vol. 1 building to the government for use as (1868); Vt. Alumni Weekly, Oct. 10, 1923 ; J. Grandfather was a large slave owner barracks, and dismissed all salaried offi- A. Savage, First Congreg. Church, reprint from and had brought his slaves with him. cers, including the president. Sanders at Medfield, Mass.: Proc. at the Celebration of the With the help of the negroes they erect- this time was almost overwhelmed with 250th Anniversary of the Incorporation of the ed comfortable log houses in which to misfortunes: his book, A History of the Town (1902); copy in Univ. of Vt. Library of live and house the negroes. When the an autobiography and journal (MSS.) of Indian Wars with the First Settlers of the was estab- Sanders.] P. D . E. lished in 1846, Mother was enrolled in United States, Particularly in New The above biography was sent in by a England, published anonymously at the first class. Her name was Caroline reader of Sanders Siftings and came from but she was usually called Carrie. Mrs. Montpelier in 1812, had aroused bitter pages 331-32 of an unidentified collec- criticism because of its strictures on Jane Ross, niece of Chief John Ross, was tion of biographies of famous Americans. one of the teachers. Martha Schrimsher, colonial bigotry and cruelty to the The above references should be some natives (see Historical Magazine, help to researchers. (Continued on page three) Page 3 No. 51 Oct/2007 SANDERSSiftings

(Continued from page two) unaccessible country and did so. Then Siftings Back Issues Available with a lot of advertising from the United mother of Mr. William Gulager, was a States officers the community became classmate. Back issues of SANDERS Siftings one of the bad sections of the country by I have heard my mother relate many are available at $3.00 each. They are: No. 2, July 1995 through No. 50, reputation. For that reason perhaps it amusing and unusual incidents that was taken over by the Federal occurred during her childhood in a new July 2007. If you order eight issues or more, the price will be $2.00 per Government and will be converted into country. One was when the children a public playground. killed a sheep. Her uncle David Carter issue. George Sanders raised sheep as did many of the A copy of issue No. 1, April, Cherokees. In the herd was a ram that 1995, will be included free with any Interviewed on September 14, 1937 would chase the children whenever he order for back issues. by W. J. B. Bigby. George lives near saw them and they had been warned Lyons, Oklahoma. against him. One day he attacked them George Sanders, a full blood and my mother did not run and when were teachers there. Miss Florence Cherokee, was born in what is now the ram came in reach she grabbed him Wilson was the Principal. District but moved to Flint by the horns and gave his neck a twist District when three years old and set- In 1889 I married to Samuel ?. tled about two miles west of the nearest and he fell to the ground. Another child Sanders, a Cherokee, and we located on ran for the axe and they chopped his village of Lyons, Oklahoma. He was the a farm near Braggs. We were the parents oldest son of Hooley Sanders who was head off. of four children, all living. They are At the beginning of the Civil War, all killed in the Civil War somewhere in the William Sanders of Braggs, Sam of northern states. George was the oldest of the slaves owned by her uncle ran Muskogee, Mrs. Jacqueline Starr Benge away one night and as that left them child of Hooley by his second wife. of Fayetteville, Arkansas, and Mrs. Katie These boys went to the army with their entirely without servants much of the Combs of Haskell. My husband attend- heavy work devolved upon her. As she father and served throughout the war. ed the Cherokee Male Seminary and His mother was Mary Sanders, a was not accustomed to it, it was very dis- received his business training at Sedalia, tasteful. Later her uncle’s family moved Cherokee Woman. He does not know Missouri. He served several terms as a her maiden name. to Texas as did many of the Cherokees. member of the Cherokee Council and Mother did not go but preferred to stay was always interested in the political life By Holley’s second wife there were with friends and other relatives. of his people. He engaged in cattle rais- four children namely: George, Watt, ing and farming as that was the chief John and Mose. My father, Thomas Ballard, a three- Early Life fourths Cherokee Indian, joined the industry at the time. During the first Confederate Army at the age of seven- Oklahoma State Legislature he served as Most of the early life of George was teen and served under General Stand Journal Clerk, at Guthrie, which was the spent near the village of Lyons. He Watie. His captain’s name was White capital. Ex-Governor Murray was one never was away even as far as Muskogee. Catcher. He participated in the Battle of of his intimate friends. Mr. Sanders died He never was in a large town. When he Pea Ridge and all the skirmishes in that in 1910. was yet small his father gave him to his section of the country. Once when the Cherokee rolls were aunts and they reared him. The women to be copied, I with several other had about a twenty acre farm. They cul- After the war was over he met and tivated only a small part of this farm. married my mother. They established Cherokee girls was given the work at Tahlequah. This was the first time a Corn was the principal crop of that time. their new home in the Cookson Hills They did not raise anything to sell. two miles from the Illinois Courthouse. woman had ever been employed in cleri- cal work in the . They only had a few cattle in this part of I was born there January 19, 1868. Jack the Flint District. Each year families Cookson for whom the community was I recall that while we lived in the here would sell two or three calves to named was one of our neighbors, a Cookson Hills, among our neighbors buyers from Arkansas. That was about highly respected man and a leader in the were the Pettit and Ratcliffe families well all the money that they received each community. Mr. Cookson operated a known in the Cherokee Nation. We year. Among the Cherokees there were general mercantile store and cotton gin often had full blood Indian preachers no cattlemen in this community. who came to the school house and in Garfield. His son Levi Cookson Hogs ran at large and any man could served several years as a member of the preached. One day I had a girl friend who was white visiting me and I asked claim any number he wished in the Cherokee Council. Tom Madden who woods just so he could prove that he married my sister was a partner in busi- her to go with me to hear the Indian preacher. She went but got dreadfully had a claim on the hundreds of head of ness with Mr. Cookson. My father hogs ran wild in the woods. They could engaged in farming and stock raising. frightened as she did not understand anything the preacher said, fearing that be killed where found to provide meat The chief source of his income was from for the families. But could not kill to cattle which were no great expense to he might be planning to massacre the whites. sell. As long as the family could use the raise as the range was fine and free. I meat it was all right. entered school at the Cherokee Female The Cookson Hills community was a Seminary at the age of sixteen and was respectable, quiet place with none but [Three and a half pages are unread- there when the building burned in 1886. the most desirable citizens living there. able.] Miss Belle Cobb, afterwards Dr. Cobb of A few years later some bad characters The ceremonial grounds of this soci- Wagoner and Miss Ada Archer of Pryor found they could take refuge in the (Continued on page four) SANDERSSiftings No. 51 Oct/2007 Page 4

Charles Sanders of Germany Comes to Pa., Ky. Marjorie Wolf is Seeking The following is from Ed Sanders, 163 Amle 12 Ky. at school Info on Thomas Saunders, Virginia Way, Searcy, AR 72143, Eugene 9 Ky. Descendant of Tobias . Ed did not Alphoizo 7 Ky. put this together, but picked it up from a From Marjories Saunders Wolf, 508 posting by “madelinesangston.” Louis 4 Ky. Flora 5/12 Ky. N. Jones St., Eureka, IL 61530. I am Author: madelinesangston researching my ancestor Thomas 1860 census Louisville Ward 8, 3 June 1880 census Louisville, Saunders and wife Betsey Cross. He is Jefferson Co., Ky. Jefferson County, Ky. descended from Tobias Saunders, 2nd, Charles Sanders 41 1819 Bremen M. B. Sanders Switcerland Stephen Saunders, and immigrant Germany Bookkeeper Alvina 24 Pa. at home ancestor Tobias Saunders. I have doc- Bertha A Sanders 31 1829 daughter umentation by land deed that Thomas Switzerland Emil 22 dentist son Saunders purchased land in Potter Township, (Ontario) now Yates Bertha 9 1851 Pa. Charles 17 clerk in foundry son County, N.Y., in 1804. He was from Alvina 8 1852 Pa. Rhode Island, born there 22 Feb 1764, Flora 10 attends school Theophile 3 1857 Ky. in Charlestown. Christopher daughter Emile 1 1859 Ky. Saunders, son of Thomas, is my ances- Federal census Mortality Records tor born 1 May 1799. I need proof of July 20 1870 census Louisville, Ward 1880 Ky. 11, Jefferson Co., Ky. where he was born. He married C. F. Sanders male Aurilla Putney 19 Dec 1823, no record C. F. Sanders 49 Breman Germany Birth: Germany 1818 located, but probably Yates,County, Bookkeeper Married: ? N.Y. Christopher moved his family to Mary 39 Switcerland, 1831 Death Nov 1880 Ky. age 62 Putman Township, Fulton Co., Bertha 19 Pa. Does anyone know when he came to Illinois, 1836, and I have all documen- Alvenia 18 Pa. the U.S.? Who has info on the family tation from that date forward. Theophile 14 Pa. after the death of Charles?

(Continued from page three) make a living grubbing this timber off It stormed so hard while I was on the in order to make the first crop, so I road I had to unhitch the team and ety were located on a mountain west of returned to Kansas and then made a crawl under the wagon. I stayed there Lyons about three miles. About fifty trip to Colorado, intending to buy a the rest of the day. I was afraid of men belonged to that lodge at this place. farm there. But my wife could not Indians, so I could not sleep much at George Sanders was once elected as pres- stand the climate so we again returned night. All the west cattle ranches ident of this society at Lyons. to Kansas, and in 1893 I bought a received the salt for $1.00 to $1.25 a Pen Indians thrashing machine and came to hundred and they always paid cash for This was a remnant of this Kee-Too- Oklahoma to harvest the first crop in their orders, but people of the commu- Wah chosen by the leader to assassinate the Cheyenne country. This was one nity and the Indians received their salt the men that favored the removal from more experience. I tried to hire help to for 25 cents a hundred and they would their eastern home. These men were feed the machine, this was around trade groceries, wood or anything they chosen by their president to do this act. Carlton and finally got some Indians. might have, then we would trade the This organization was so binding and They did not understand English, so I wood and groceries for something we such a secret organization that what they would have to show them what I want- might need; this way very little money were told, that was what they did. ed done. They would work very well was in circulation. for a while but when they grew tired We made the salt in two large pans; Jeff Saunders they would just quit and rest whether they were about 10 x 4 feet. These were Interviewed on April 12, 1938 by the machine went or not. built with a furnace underneath. It took Louise S. Barnes. Jeff lives in Watonga, In 1894 I brought my family to very hot fires to make forty hundred Oklahoma. Oklahoma with me and we moved on a pounds in ten hours, and a poor grade of I was born in Rushville, Missouri, Salt farm that my sister filed claim on; salt was made when the fire was going October 11, 1861, and my wife, Clara her name was Nancy Ellen. out. That is the reason it was not so Francis, was born on May 3, 1867, in We made salt on her homestead for fine, the fire was not hot enough. Doniphan County, Kansas. My father, the whole country, running a freight I have lived on several farms since I Joshua Saunders, made the Cheyenne line to all the big ranches over the quit making salt, and now own the home and Arapaho opening in 1892, and filed western country. I borrowed the we live on west of Watonga. I will on a claim south and west of Watonga. money to buy a big team of horses, and remain on the farm until I am not able to I came to the Cheyenne and Arapaho used them on a common wagon to haul run it any longer. Opening in 1892 but I decided not to a lot of the salt. The first load I freight- This will be continued in a later issue file a claim, because the land that I ed I sold to a squaw man whose name with WPA interviews involving more could get seemed to be all covered with was Chapman; it was a trip of forty Sanders and Saunders old timers in timber, and I did not think I could miles and I got ten dollars for the load. Oklahoma. Page 5 No. 51 Oct/2007 SANDERSSiftings Map Showing John Sanders’ House in Salem Two Saunders 19th . The following was sent in by Paul F. New Salem in New England, in the Sanders, 2680 169 Ave. S.E., Bellevue, Margaret from Plymouth, Hugh Weston, Century Politicians WA 98008, . master, in company with John Endicott EDWARD WATTS SAUNDERS, a Here is for publication a 1700 map of and his colony, 28 June 1628(9). Representative from Virginia; born near a part of Salem, Massachusetts (see SSS goes on to state, “About 1636, Rocky Mount, Franklin County, Va., below), from the Essex Antiquarian John2 Sanders was married to Priscilla October 20, 1860; received his early (issue and volume number not identi- Grafton (should be Priscilla’s sister, education under private teachers; fied). The map shows the location of Elizabeth - PFS).” SSS on page 44 attended Bellevue High School, Bedford the estate of John Sanders at the corner states, “He died Oct. 1643, leaving County, Va., and was graduated from of Ye Main Street and a lane. The lane is (Elizabeth) Grafton, and one son, the University of Virginia at currently called Saunders Street. Main John3, bp. 9 Jan. 1640, in Salem, Mass. Charlottesville in 1882; studied law; Street is Route 1A now. However, Robert Saunders, attorney, in was admitted to the bar and com- menced practice in Rocky Mount, Va., Per the write up on page 152 of that the July 2007 issue of Sanders Siftings in 1883; member of the State house of issue of the Antiquarian, the lane has found the will of John Saunders, Senior, delegates 1887-1901 and served as had several descriptions as follows: ye of Downton Parish, probated Sept 1649, speaker in 1899; elected judge of the lane over John Sanders house, 1689 in which Senior left “my sonne John Fourth Circuit Court of Virginia in (etc.) .... Sanders Lane, 1719. Saunders twenty pounds.” If John Saunders, Junior, died in 1643 in Salem, 1901 and judge of the seventh circuit in Which John Saunders was this? 1904; elected as a Democrat to the Sarah Saunders Smith (SSS) in her The why would his father leave him 20 pounds in 1649? Fifty-ninth Congress to fill the vacancy Founders of the Massachusetts Bay caused by the resignation of Claude A. Colony, 1897, states John Sanders, son of Other historical information shows Swanson; reelected to the Sixtieth and John Sanders of Weeks, bp. 23 March John Saunders, Junior, marrying Hester to the six succeeding Congresses and 1613 in the Parish of Downton, came to Rolfe in England in 1638 with his sister, served from November 6, 1906, to Sara, to Salisbury where she February 29, 1920, when he resigned, married Major Robert Pike. having been elected judge of the State Senior’s will of 1649 leaves supreme court of appeals, which posi- ten pounds to his daughter, tion he held until his death in Rocky Sara Pike. Robert Saunders, Mount, Franklin County, Va., on attorney, refutes SSS that December 16, 1921; interment in High John Saunders, Junior, of Street Cemetery. Salem was John Saunders, Senior, of Downton’s son. If EDWARD SAUNDERS CHEATHAM (1818- not, who was John Saunders 1878) — also known as Edward S. of Salem, Mass.? Cheatham. Born in Springfield, Robertson County, Tenn., July 31, Pat Henderson, 625 West 1818. Nephew of Anderson Cheatham; Oak Dr., Aledo, TX 76008, son-in-law of Ephraim Hubbard . Foster; son of Richard Cheatham; Looking for descendants brother of Richard Boone Cheatham of Henry Earl Sanders and Boyd M. Cheatham; all of who born 3 May 1891 in were in Tennessee state politics.. Wichita Falls, Texas. He Edward was a member of Tennessee married Mary F. ? in Texas. state house of representatives, 1853- By 1920 were in Taylor 55; member of Tennessee state senate, Co. Texas with one child 1855-57, 1861-63. [How could they Isabelle. In 1930 they all survive in politics with a name like were in Grant, New Cheatham?] Mexico and had six more His father was Richard Cheatham, b. children. The census 20 Feb 1799 in Tenn., d. 9 Sep 1845 in looked like the names Tenn.. His mother was Susannah were Pete, Sarah, Jimmie, Saunders, b. 21 May 1802 in Tenn., d. 9 Ruth, Carol and Billie. In Mar 1864 in Tenn. Susannah’s parents 1939 they lived in Santa were Edward Saunders, b. abt 1776 in Fe, New Mexico. Also Tenn. Her mother was Elizabeth looking for his brother, Williams, b. abt 1780. Ewell T. Sanders, born Edward S. Saunders died in Horn Nov. in Texas. He was in Lake, DeSoto County, Miss., December Springerville, Arizona in 21, 1878. He is buried at Mt. Olivet 1939. Any help would be Cemetery, Nashville, Tenn. Cheatham appreciated. County, Tenn. is named for him. SANDERSSiftings No. 51 Oct/2007 Page 6

Mary Hughes Butler, 805 SE Laurie ASSORTED QUERIES . . . Ct., Ankeny, IA 50021, just found out her gggreat CA 91750-4411, . I descend from Joshua @shaw.ca>. I am trying to find informa- trying to find out some information. Sanders 1749 Charlestown, Washington tion about Francis “Frank” Henry His name was Dr. Ezekial Sanders, b. in Co., R.I. and Mary Taylor; Saunders born 7 Mar 1852 in S.C. in 1799. His wife was Elizabeth ?. They moved to Pickens County, Daniel Saunders and Martha Wood Haverfordwest St Martin, Pembroke- shire, Wales. He went to Jamaica with Alabama. Their daughter Mary Ann Joshua Sanders 1749 R.I. & Mary Taylor married John Berry Carden and are my 18 Dec 1752 Little Compton, R.I. his brother Arthur; they were both doc- tors. Frank married Norah Jane ggreat grandparents. A little community Lyman Sanders 14 May 1787 Westerly Horlock Radcliffe about 1875 and they outside Reform, Alabama is named Washington, R.I. & Elizabeth had two daughters Isabel Nora Louise Sanderstown in his honor. That is all I Lowater Bagley and Irene/Eileen. From an old newspa- know. Elizabeth Saunders/Sanders 16 Mar per clipping Isabel married Launcelott ______1810 & James Vickers Charles William Wyndham (a Major in Robert Taylor abt 1621 & Mary Hodges the Highland Light Infantry) in Sandra Noell, 6322 Greenway Drive, John Taylor un 1657 & Abigail Hodges Kingston, date unknown. There may Roanoke, Va 24019, . Looking for the parents ers. Frank died February 8, 1940 in Humphrey Taylor (Jan 1730 Little of William Saunders. William Saunders, Kingston, Jamaica. That’s all I know. Compton, R.I. & Martha Wood born about 1774, married Polly Curle, Any more information would be great- June 16, 1798 in Bedford County, Va. Mary Taylor 18 Dec 1752 LC R.I. & fully received. Joshua Sanders 1749 R.I. Consent of (Jul, Jno or Jus) Curle, ______brother; Robert Adams, surety. First Lyman Sanders 14 May 1787 Westerly, land deed recorded in Bedford County, R.I. & Elizabeth L Bagley Va. on Sept. 1803. Will probated Jul 28, This isn't my main Taylor line. I want Mary Rice Harris, 857 Cornish Dr., 1868, Bedford County. Children: all I can get on those Taylors and San Diego, CA 92107, . I would like to exchange Hardy), Susan Ann (m. Thomas E. ______information with anyone researching Noell), Elizabeth T. (m. Henry T. these families. Most of the informa- Myler), Mary (m. George Woolfolk), tion I have came from Rutherford Co, Gary Sanders, Box 309236 UNT Lucinda (m. Lawson Hurt). Tenn. marriage records, census, and a Station, Denton, TX 76203, will. ______. Searching for information about the The family of Isaac Sanders 1793- given name of the husband of Mary 1868 and Lucinda ? 1793-1850-60: Shirley Schroeder, 3 South River Sanders who appears on the 1850 1. Minerva, b. abt 1817, m. 1833 Drive, Williamstown, NJ 08094, Jackson County, Alabama, census with Joseph Drennon, 1870 census Upshur, . I’ve the following children in her house- Texas from 1845-1855 they list chil- been searching since 2005 for James T. hold: Francis, Willis, Isaac, dren born in Miss. Saunders. Every time I think I’ve Washington, and Tempy. Mary's hus- 2. Maranda, b. abt 1817, m. 1845 opened the door, it seems it shuts and I band was probably dead before 1850. John Foster, 1850 census Wilson, have to start all over again. I'm looking Mary Sanders died intestate in 1868 Tenn. 1860 Rutherford, Tenn., d. 1868 for any information on my grandfather, and her son Francis K. Sanders was the Rutherford James T. Saunders, born in 1882 in administrator of her estate. She left 3. Catherine, b. abt 1821, m. 1842 Virginia and I believe he died, 1946 in property worth about $300 dollars, Clairbourn Perry, 1850 census Jefferson County, Kentucky. This is including two cows and three calves, Rutherford, Tenn., d. 1850-60 what I’ve found so far, but I'm confused. In the 1910 census he was in Ohio with thirty hogs, one work horse, household 4. Pamelia, b. 1828, m. 1845 my grandmom, Rosa Lee (Meek) and kitchen furniture, and forty William Cox, 1850 census Rutherford, Saunders, born 1888. My mom, Virginia bushels of corn. Francis K. Sanders Tenn. 1860 Shelby, Ill., 1870 Johnson, Lee Saunders, was born 1909. I then moved to Dunklin County, Missouri by Mo., 1880 Palo Pinto, Texas, 1900 found him again in the 1920 and 1930 1870. His brother Isaac is listed as Ira Erath, Texas. I could not find them in censuses, but with a different family — Sanders on the 1870 census of Jackson 1910. County. This family appears to have wife, Annie B., born 1866 and some connection to that of Elijah 5. Mary Ann, b. 1832, m. 1855 son,George R,. born 1894 and daughter: Greenville Sanders because in 1870, Nathaniel Rice, 1860-1880 census born 1898. Which would make those Missouri Sanders, the niece of Ira or Johnson, Mo., d. 1885. children in their 20s. I’m guessing at Isaac, is living in the household of 6. Sarah, b. abt 1835. In 1850 cen- this, but I think he was married to Anna Elijah's daughter, Caledonia. Any sus living with her parents. Have first and then met my grandmom Rosa information anyone can provide about found nothing more on her. Lee and had my mom, then went back Mary Sanders and her children would There may be other children, but to his first wife. Of course I’m only be appreciated. these are the only ones I have found. guessing. Page 7 No. 51 Oct/2007 SANDERSSiftings

Retha Rustin, Route #1, Box 340, Brookport, IL 62910, . I am missing the sib- First Black President of Biddle University lings of Mary Era Esther Saunders, chil- dren of William Pitt Saunders and DANIEL JACKSON SANDERS (Feb. 15, 1879, the publication of the Africo- Francis Palmer. They were last found 1847-Mar. 6, 1907), Presbyterian clergy- American Presbyterian, which had a wide on school tax list in 1885 in Lafayette man, educator, editor, the son of influence in building up the Co., Miss., Springdale Dist. They were: William and Laura Sanders, was born in Presbyterian cause among the colored slavery near Winnsboro, S.C., on the people. This publication he edited until Baxter J., born 1874 plantation of Thomas Hall, a Methodist his death. On Sept. 16, 1880, he mar- James Wesley, born 1876 preacher. His owner permitted him to ried Fannie Price, and of this union nine Joe A., born 1879 (twin boy) learn the letters of the alphabet, and children were born. In 1891, he was Jo A., born 1879 (twin girl) before lie became free he had learned to elected president of Biddle University, of Oldest child was John William, b. spell and to read. At the age of nine which he had been a trustee for fourteen 1871, m. Kate Keith, d. 1909 in Md. years he was given his first instruction years. He was its first colored president. Mary Era Esther, b. 1876 (twin of in the shoemaker’s trade; he served as an His unusual executive ability and untir- James Wesley above), m. G. W. apprentice for five years, making such ing interest in the expansion of the uni- Bowman, d. 1968 in Ark. remarkable progress that at the end of versity enabled it to make rapid Mollie, b. 1882 (too young to be on three years his master was able to collect advancement. As a teacher of theology school list), m. 1) stringer, 2) gibsom, d. pay for his services. and church government he was well 1958 in Idaho. In 1866 he left his master’s home and liked by his students, who called him set out for Chester, S.C., taking with “Zeus.” He continued as president of Biddle (which later became Johnson C. Congressman Romulus Saunders him only a small shoemaker’s kit. As he worked he secured tutelage from a Mr. Smith University) until his death. ROMULUS MITCHELL SAUNDERS, a W. B. Knox, and in 1869 and 1870 Sanders was the first colored modera- Representative from North Carolina; attended Brainerd Institute, at Chester, tor of both the Yadkin and Cape Fear born near Milton, Caswell (then Orange) where he proved so apt a pupil that after presbyteries, he served as a stated clerk County, N.C., March 3, 1791; attended two years of study he was made a tutor in the Atlantic and Yadkin presbyteries the common schools and the University in the school. By 1871 be was prepared and the Catawba Synod, and three times of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 1809- to enter Western Theological Seminary was delegate to meetings of the Alliance 1811; studied law; was admitted to the at Allegheny, Pa., where in 1874 he of Reformed Churches Holding the bar in Nashville, Tenn., in 1812 and com- graduated with honors. He then became Presbyterian System—at Toronto, menced practice in Milton, N.C.; mem- pastor of the Chestnut Street Liverpool, and Washington. He was ber of the state house of commons in Presbyterian Church in Wilmington, many times a member of the General 1815, 1817, and 1819, and served two N.C. Here he assembled the colored Assembly, where his voice was heard and years as speaker; trustee of the University Presbyterians, who until then had been given recognition. With an extremely of North Carolina 1819-1864; moved to worshipping in the galleries of the simple of life to guide him Raleigh, N.C., in 1823; elected as a churches of their former owners, into he commended himself each day to God Republican to the Seventeenth Congress, the northern Presbyterian Church and did his best in each day's work. He reelected as a Crawford Republican to the (Presbyterian Church in the United died at the age of sixty. Eighteenth Congress, and elected as a States of America). [Johnson C. Smith Univ. Alumni Jour., D. J. Jacksonian to the Nineteenth Congress Sanders Edition, Apr. 1928; Africo-American (March 4, 1821-March 3, 1827); declined Because of his religious attitude, his Presbyterian, Mar. 15, May 3, 1888; Minutes to be a candidate for reelection; attorney forensic power, and sound logic, Sanders of the Gen. Assembly of the Presbyt. Ch. in the general of the state 1828-1831; judge of soon became a leader in the educational U. S. A., 1870 1907; Who’s Who in America, the superior court 1835-1840; unsuccess- world. He was elected principal of the 1906-07; Charlotte Daily Observer, Mar. 7, ful candidate for governor of North public schools in Chester, S.C., and in 1907; information as to certain facts from 1875, principal of the city schools in Mrs. D. J. Sanders and a son, Brooks Carolina in 1840; elected as a Democrat Sanders.] D. B. P. to the Twenty-seventh and Twenty-eighth Wilmington, N.C. This position he resigned shortly in order to go abroad to The above biography was sent in by Congresses (March 4, 1841-March 3, a reader of Sanders Siftings and came 1845); chairman, Committee on the raise money for the work of the Board of Missions for Freedmen. He spent over a from page 332 of an unidentified col- Judiciary (Twenty-eighth Congress); lection of biographies of famous unsuccessful candidate for reelection; year in Scotland and England and raised Americans. The above references unsuccessful candidate for the United a large sum of money for the Board. In should be some help to researchers. States Senate in 1842 and 1852; Minister addition, he raised $6,000 as an endow- to Spain 1846-1849; again a member of ment for an African scholarship fund to Jim Sanders, 2235 Los Encinos Rd., the state house of commons 1850-1852; prepare men at Biddle University, a Ojai, CA 93023, is judge of the superior court of North Presbyterian institution at Charlotte, looking for information on Silas Carolina 1852-1856; member of the N.C., for mission work in Africa. Upon Sanders. Found him in 1820 Smith board of commissioners to revise the laws his return from Europe he resumed his Co., Tenn. census and also probate of North Carolina; died in Raleigh, N.C., pastorate. papers, Jefferson County, Ill., 1835. April 21, 1867; interment in Old City Feeling that the church needed an Nothing in between. Wife’s name is Cemetery. organ of publicity, he began on Jan. 1, Franky, don’t know her last name. SANDERSSiftings No. 51 Oct/2007 Page 8

About This Issue Charles Walton Sanders Was A Prolific Producer You will notice that this issue has Of Early School Textbooks and Aids in America fewer queries than any since this pub- CHARLES WALTON SANDERS (Mar. 24, In preparing his textbooks, he had lication started 12 years ago. We still 1805-July 5, 1889), educator, was born in mind certain definite aims, to the need more readers sending in materi- at Newport, N. Y., one of ten children achievement of which he brought al, especially queries. of Jacob and Lydia (Martin) Sanders, industry, originality, and the instincts Some of you have mentioned your and a direct descendant of John of a born teacher, sharpened by years of lack of progress. Get to work! Sanders, who came to Salem, Mass., experience with under-privileged coun- I still need good stories about from Wiltshire, England, in 1630. His try children. Previous to his time, Sanders or Saunders people such as father was a farmer in modest circum- reading-books had been composed of articles from family , biogra- stances, but was desirous of educating selections from the masters of English phies from county histories, or obit- his children, and at the age of four literature, often pedantic, and in most uaries. And, send me queries. Charles was sent to a local school cases beyond the easy comprehension where he acquired as much knowledge of children I do not have very many articles as his teacher could impart. When he Characteristics which contributed to left over to be used in succeeding was nine his father moved to Homer, issues. I prefer to have a good back the worth and popularity of the Cortland County, N.Y., where the son Sanders’ readers were: careful grading, log. Especially needed are shorter finished his slender country-school stories or longer queries. pictures, moral and ethical tone; the education. He became a licensed simplicity and interest, as well as liter- I need more stories of various teacher is 1821, and at the age of twen- ary merit, of the contents; emphasis on lengths, wills, your genealogy ty-four was elected inspector of com- articulation and inflection in teaching odyssey, old letters, great research mon schools, serving for several years. reading and in class exercises. Much of ideas, obituaries, etc. Keep sending He taught seventeen years in the the matter in the first, second, and third in products of your research, but I schools of Homer and Cortland County. readers was Sanders’ own. By putting a need quite a few short items. Also, In 1837 or 1838, meaning to capitalize few songs with music at the end of each more good pictures are needed to the experience and observation result- reader, he has shared credit for intro- support stories. Think about the ing from his years of country-school ducing singing into the public schools. kind of things you like to read here, teaching, he moved from the back- In his public school music interests he and send similar material. country to the metropolis, and plunged was associated with William Batchelder It will be very much appreciated if into the writing and compilation of Bradbury [q.v.]. you send me your queries and other spellers and readers for elementary material via e-mail. Send it to me at schools. Kept in Touch With Textbook Users . If you can’t e- More Than Forty Titles Produced He maintained close touch with his constituency for many years by spend- mail, send cleanly typed copy. I can The next twenty-five years saw an ing three months annually in visiting scan it with OCR software and a amazing succession of more than forty and lecturing before schools and teach- scanner to save time. Whichever is titles of primers, spellers, a series of six ers’ meetings, and in giving entertaining okay for you—but send me something! graded readers, grammars, speakers, illustrative readings. He was present at If you are reading this in a library charts, and cards for teaching children, the organization of the New York State or from another person’s copy and school singing-books, all bearing the Teachers’ Association, in 1845. He was you are not a subscriber and have name of the author on the cover, title- interested in the early temperance never received a complimentary copy, page, and every left page throughout movement, and was a steadfast send me a query, with your U.S. mail every volume. An advantageous associ- Republican until Cleveland claimed his address. I will send you a free sample ation with the leading educational pub- vote in 1884. On Aug. 2, 1842, he was copy that includes your query. lisher of the day, combined with the married to Elizabeth Barker, the daugh- E-mail addresses of contributors solid merits of the books, brought such ter of John and Anna Barton Barker, of are listed right after their regular popularity that 13,000,000 Sanders’ White Plains, N.Y., and had three chil- mailing address in these signs < >, if readers were reported sold between dren. He died in New York City. the person has an e-mail address. 1838 and 1860, and the author at one This newsletter was done in time received about $30,000 yearly in [W. R. Cutter, Geneal. and Family Hist. of QuarkXPress 5.01 on a PowerMac Central N.Y. (1912), vol. III; C. W. Sanders, royalties. Geneal. of the Cortland County, N.Y., Branch G4 computer and output is on a of the Sanders Family (1908); S. A. Allibone, Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 2200D. A Critical Dictionary of English Literature, Text type is 10 pt. Berkeley Medium Is This Your Last Issue? vol. II (1870); State of N.Y., Dept. of Public on 11 pt. line spacing. Display type If the address on the envelope in Instruction, 37th Annual Report, 1891 (1891) is Berkeley and Opine Heavy. which your newsletter was mailed has N.Y. Times, July 6, 1889.] J. I. W. Scanning is done with a Microtek this—Oct 07, your subscription ex- The above biography was sent in by ScanMaker IIHR using ScanWizard, pires with this issue. Renew now if a reader of Sanders Siftings and came PhotoShop, and OmniPage Pro. this is your last issue, by sending $12 from pages 330-31 of an unidentified The envelopes are addressed on for another year’s subscription. Please collection of biographies of famous the HP LaserJet 2200D printer. include your current e-mail address. Americans. The above references should be some help to researchers. Sanders Siftings

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