DEBATES (English Version)

Eiahtb Serl.. Vol. XI, No. 18 Thun",. Deee.ber 12.1985 ApabaY8D8 21, 1907 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Fourth Session (Eighth Lok Sabba)

(Vol. 'Xl conttIIM NOl. ~1 1o 10)

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No. 18, 'I'IuIr.day, o,c,mber 12, 198'Itt4lrGhaYtUlG 21 J 1907 (SakG)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to QUOStioD8 : ... 1·20 ~tarred Question Nos. 348, 349, 356, 35~, 360 and 36' Written AUlWera to QuestioDS : ... Starred Quostion Nos. 350 to 355, 35'", 358, 361 to 364, 366, 367

UDltarred Question Nos. 3560 to 3563; 3565 to 3600, 3602 to 3643, 364S to 3742 and 3744 to 3773. Papen Laid OD the Tablo f! •• 234-237 -. ttI.ssale from Rajya Sabba 238 Public Accounts Committee Twentieth Report ... 238 Committeo OD Pot itions-Pirst Report 239 Blection to Committee-National Shipping Board ... 239 Matters Under Rule 377 24().244

. (i) Demand for cbeckiDI use of intoxicating drulS, particularly smack. by youth.

Sbrfmatf SUDderwati Nawal Prabbatar 240 (U) Demand for taking more stringeDt steps to control the deterior. atiDI Jaw and order situation iD Delbi and have more police control rooms for the purpose.

Sbri D.N. Reddy 240 (Iii) Demand for coDltructinl new railway line for the backward area of Thana and Nagar districts iD Maharashtra.

Sbrl S.O. Oho)ap ... 240 (Iv) Need to develop the Vizhiojam FisbiDI barbour Into a dry dock. cumcarlo harbour durin. the Seventh Five Year Plan period.

Sbrl A.. Charits ... 241

·Tbe IflDjt marked above the Dame of a Member indlcatos tbat the Qu eStioll was act.. " II), uted qn the floor 01 tbe HOUle by that Member .. (il) COLUYNS (v) Demand for an Ammonia factory at Pbulpur to increase production of urea. Sbri Ram Pujan Patel 241

(vi) Need to ensure prompt payment of dues of the paddy growers 0' Punjab and Haryana for paddy purchased by F.e.l. Shri Bal want Singh Ramoowalia ... 242

(vii) Need to amend the Forest Conservation Act for speedy development of undeveloped forests and backward areas. Shrl M.L. Jhikram ... 243 (viii) Demand for s~ttil1g up a Pertil izera factory at village Nawan, Hanumangarh Tehsil of distr iet OaDganagar in Rajasthan. Shri Birbal ... 243

Motion Re: ' Challenge of Educatton-A Policy Perspectivel-Contd.

Shri Kadambur Janartbanan _. 245

Sbri K.S. Rao 247 Shri Manoj Pandey ... 250 Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 252

Shri Ram Nagina Mishra 254 Shri Rainswaroop Ram ... 257 Sbri Owaisi 260

Shri Uma- Kant Mishra ... 263

Shrs G.S. B::isavaraju 265

Shri P. V. Narasimha Rao 269

Committee on Papers laid on the Table 268

(i) Fourth Report

(ij) Minut eS

Putwah-Islampur Light Ra\]way Line (Nationalisation) Bill and Supplementary Demand for Grant (Railway) 1985-86

Motion to consider Shri Madhavrao Scindia ... 303 Shri Sribari Rao 305 Shri Jafi'ar Sharief ... 309 (ill)

COLU~NS Shri Vijay N. Patil ... 317 Bhri R. Annanambi ... 318 Shri Sh iv Prasad Sahu t·· 322 Shri Ram Pyare Panika 324 Shri R.P. Das 328

Shri Jujhar Singh 331

Shri Lal Vijay Pratap Singb 333 Shrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibhai Mavani .... 337 Sbri Narayan Choubey 337

Shr; Harish Ra wat 344 Shri S.M. Guraddi 347

Sbri Vakkom Purusbotbaman 350

Shri R. Jeevarathinam 352

Sbri R.P. Suman 356 Shri D.N. ReddY .'. 359 Sbri Ram Pujan Patel 362

Shri K.D. Sultanpuri .' . 365 Shri C. Janga ReddY 367

Shri Ram Bhagat Paswan 372 Sbri Ram Singh Yadav 376

Shri V.S. Krishna Iycr 3'9 LOK SABHA DEBATES

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LOK SABHA AN. HON. MEMBER: Sir, 'i~ it 1>4 cause of eJection rever or cold fever?

MR. SPEAKER: You have to diag- Thursda},.INclmber 12, 198$/ nose it. Agrahayana 21, 1907 (Saka) ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

[English) The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock. Ran Lines Constructed Doring Sixth Plan [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] *348. SHRI CHARANJIT SINGH ( Translation) WALIA: Wi1) the Minister of TRANS- PORT be pleased t.J stat e : SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAOI: Today, yo u ar e in a bappy mood. (r nterruptions) (a) how rna!)y kilometres of Railway lines have been constructed in India durin. MR. SPEAKER: Was I happy yester- the Sixth Five Year Plan ; and day? (b) bow many kilometres ,0' RaiJway SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAOI: How lines have been constructed in Punjab dur- could w~ reel happy when you were not in. the same period? in a happy mood during the last two or three days. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MR. SPEAKER: Today, 1 am in a MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) 903 kms. very happy mood. Bairagijl, happiness depends upon both sides. (b) 5.6 kms.

SHaI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: But the SHRI CHARANJIT SINGH WALIA: perioDs for wbom this is meant are not Sir, the hon. Minister bas stated that onl, present In the House even today. 903 kms. of Jailway line have been constructed in It1dia during the Sixth Five Year MR.SPEAKER: They have heard it. Plan and ooly 5.6 kms. have been cons- Everything is all ri,bt now.. tructed in Punjab. The mileage of rail route bas increased to 806 S.-ms. from rEngllsl,] 1950-51 to 1984·85 and there is an in. crease of about 4.3% in rail traffic and SHaI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Sir, 3.7 % in prsseoger traffic. There is a every day the streolth of the Hou!e is steady increase in freight traffic and decreasing. passenger traffic and especially in Punjab there is a manifold increase in routo length MR. SPEAKER : I do not know. What as also passenaer and freight traffic. Then, is the probl em ? I do not understand wby Punjab is beiDI 3 Ortll AlIsw,,,s DBCEMBBll 12, 1985 Oral .4",." .. discriminated against in the construction of state and only then, we should go ia for new railway line, more so when t be dem- expanding the system. ~Dd for construction of new railway Jines has been voiced in the past. The demand SHRI CHARANllT SINOH WALIA: for new railway Hnes between Patiala- Before independence, the mil eage in Jakbal-DeJh i via Samana and Pathra, betw- Punjab was quite sufficient, but after tn- een Chandigarh and Patiala and between dependence, Punjab has been neglected. Cbandigarh and Ludhiana, has been raised. You have stated the overall picture, but I know from the hon. Minister what steps what are the reasons for neglectin, tbe Gov~rnment is taking to remove thh Punjab? dJscri nioation and whether there is any proposal to construct new ]jnes in Poojab SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Tbe in the Seventh Five Year Plan and jf not, contention of the hone Member ls not what are tbe reasons therefor? correct. Punjab has certainly not heeD neglected. Besides its very 800d rail SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Sir. network, it has got very good roads the railway network in Punjab is consi- also. dered fairly adequate and keeping in mind tbe constraint of resource~, priority SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO. h r s been given to otber items in raHway WALIA: His question is with regard to u llocations. In support of this statement the period after independence. I would like to give to the bon. Member certain statistics to prove that Punjab has THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT certainly not been neg1 ected and in the (SHRI BANSI LAL): That is not corr- jn~erest of the people of Punjab bas been ect. kept upper-most in the minds of the Government. 10 route kilometres,' cove- SHRr JAGANNATH RAO: Koraput. rage. per thou~and square kilometres of Rayagada railway line and SambaJpur- area, Punjab ranks "first among aJJ the Talcher line were sanctioned in the 6th States in India. Plan on a priority basis. The progress has been very slow. It needs to be ex- pedited. Whereas the national average is 18.7. the punjab average is 42.4. As far as MR. SPEKER: The question relates route kilometerage per lakh of population to Punjab only. It is not reJevant. I can j~ concerned, the national average is 8.9, only ask the Minister to answer I if tbe the Punjab average is 12.74. , . question pert a ins to Punjah. Punjab is a very 9ital State for us, Neltt question. specially for foodgraio movement. The question of neglecting Punjab does Dot Adverse Effect of Diazepam used as arise. We recognise that it is a dynamic Analgesic State with dynamic people. That is why, our ' Prime~ Minister took a decision to *349. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: estabILb a Railway Coach Factory at Will the Minister of HEALTH AND Kapurtha 1a in Punjab. FAMILY WELPARE be pJeased to state:

As far the other question, the Ludhi- (a) whetber Government have come ana.Chandigarb line surv ey bas been C:1rr- across about the adYerse effects of medi. ied out, but it bas not been found finan- cines containing Diazepam and used .. cially rem'Jnerative. Normally, we expect ten analgesic; per cent return, but the return calculated onthis line is 3.22 per cent. Kcepinl the (b) if so, d eta Us thereof; and overall picture in mind, as I said, tbeae new lines are not boina liven priority, (c) names of countries where compo. because we feel that whatever system is sitions containin8 Diazepam are beiDI mar- tbere, 1ct OJ briDI it to an acceptable keted? Oral Answer. &

THE DBPUTY .MINISTER IN THE as it is caIJ ed' is a popular anti-anxiety DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE drug or tranquiliser and it is market ed (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a): No, in Jndia in combination wj~h anaJgesics or Sir. pain killers. The answer to the question is

tq 4 the best of our knowled$e it is not (b) Does not arise. ma rketed in any other count,y. but it is marketed in Our country. While in India Cc) To the best of knowledge combi- Diazepam as a tranquiliser is combined nations of Diazepam with analgesics are with analgesics, in other countries abroad bot ih any marketed country. other tranquilisers from the same chemical selies have been combined with analgesics. [ Trasnial/onJ This drug 'diazepam' se1dom interacts adversely with other drugs except for an SHRI SHANTI DHARIW AL: Mr. additive effect for other eNS depressants. Speaker, Sir, the form of tr.y original question has been ch~ nged by making With reference to the question OD changes in it and I was not ccnsulted or Dextropropoxyphene, there have been my approval was not taken before ·doing· reports from USA that this part icuJar so. analgesic when taken in high doses, more specialJy when it is abused with alcohol or MR. SPEAKER: Sometimes, they other central nervous system dep ressants have to do trimming. I ike barbiturates can have severe adverse effects. In India several pre.:autionary SHRI SH -\NTJ DHARI \\' AL : I should measures have been taken by the Drug be en j nformed about the changes. ha ve Controll er in this connectioD. The Govern- In mY oPinion, the on Iy reason for making m ent is seized of the question of banning change:') could be that the bon. Minister this dextropropoxyphene and proposals in was not in a position to reply. this regard are pending before the Drugs Tecbnical Advisory Board. MR. SPEAKER: It is like a case of drug-addiction in the House. It is not [ Translarion] so.

SHRI SHANrI DHARIWAL : I would SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Sir, Have the Government received reports like to know from the hon. Minister wbe· to the effect that combination of -dextro- th ~r it is a fact th-lt An l!geS~C drug De.xt- propoxyphene' with 'diazepam' is very ropropoxyphene is ~ombined with the harmfui and this combination in itself acts tranquiliser , Diazepam and sold in the as POiSOil especially when the patient has country as pain kit: er in the name of Pro. taken and mUicle relaxing xyvC'n and Butaproxyvon and if so, whether alcohol drugs? I want to ask tbe boo. Minister as to permission for sale of such a combinatioil m~1.rketiDg bas been given after adopting set procedure why Permission for of such a drug combination has been given In the anJ conducting clinical trial~? If so, what are the lepO(IS of the clinical trials '1 cou.Jtry when it is not being marketed anywhere else in the world? I a!so waDt Have you got a complete report on its uses to whether Drug Controll er of 'and adverse effects? know tbe India bas written to the State Dru& Con- trollers to Dan this drug and if so, what MR. SPEAKER: Are you too 8 are the result thereof 1 doctor? [English] SHRI SHAN'n DHARIW AL No Sir, but I have undersootd it. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Tn is particular drug" dextropropoxyphene" is (English] not poiSODOUS. It does not cause adverse effects in short courses of therapeutic SHRI S. KRIStiNA KUMAR : Sir, doses. If it is taken in excess in combIna- lbit p,;uticular drUI DIUOpaQl or 'c;omposo' tiOD witb alcobol aod other barbituratCi. ., Or,j Auwer" llBcBMBSR 12. 1985 only then it is harmfuJ. In fact ther e are are going to take to. prevent tbeir circula- several clinical studies to prove that this tion? particular drug is not harmful when taken in the correct doses. So, tbe question SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The of banning this drug does not arise. This World Health Organisation, from time to drug and similar other drugs in combina- time intimates the Member-countries tion with analgesics are used all ov.er when any particular drua is banned in the world and no country in tbe world any of tbe Member-countries. They have has banned such combination. intimated the names of 31 such drugs.

[ Traltslation] In India, 10 of tbese drlJlS are not existent and they are not even introduced SHRI SHANTI DHARIW AL : The in India In case of other 14 drugs, we Drug Controller of India wr itten to the have banned them. In respect of remaining 7 drugs, we have taken conscious ~tate Drug Controllers to ban this drug. (I,.,errupti ons)* decisions on the basis of the recommen" dations of the Drugs Advisory Committee that in the Indian situation, these druss [English] need not be banned at tbe moment. It is not correct that when the WHO says that MR. SPEAKER: Not anowed. particular drugs is banned, it is banned only in some countries. In respect of [TrtlllslationJ all these 7 druas, this is being used in many other countries. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: His reply is incorrect. SHRI D.N. REDDY: It is perfectly correct that this drug is harmless when MR. SPE AKER: If it is incorrect, used sparingly by qualified people. you give me notice under Rule 11 S. MR. SPEAKER: Where is the Doc- SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: I shall tor? give the notice, I have the reports ' with me. The Drug Controller of India has SHRI D. N. REDnY: I would like written to the Stat e Drug Controll erSt to know, as a matter of fact, I also used sparingly every now and then. [EngllshJ MR. SPEAKER : It is based on your persona) experience. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: A small correction Sir. The information is incorrect. We have not a~ked the Drug controUer to SHRI D.N. REDDY: Yes Sir. Will ban this drug. We have only asked them the Minister aware that tbe drug is to be cereful in prescribing the ~rug, easily available in tbe market and is being because pregnant women should not use abused more by quacks than by qual ified these drugs. practitioners and also some of patients are being able to get the drug easily in PROF. P. 1. KURIEN : Several medi- the market? May I request the bOD. cines which are. harmful to health are M!nist er to take stringent steps to stop banned in other countries. The WHO also thiS sort of quackery in the couDtry and gives recommendations about these medi- also the sale of drugs should be controJlcd7 cines. But these medicines are in circul- So while thic; drug is harmless in other ation in our country. Is the Minster ways, but it is harmful when used by aware ,of this fact? If so, how many of quac~s and then purchased by ilnoraot such medicines are in circulation in our public. Sometimes, it is used for com- country and what are the step. that you mitting suicide also.

SHRI S. KRISHNA KUM.nA: ADS· Il, • Not recorded. tbil particular drus come. within Scbedule Oral Answers i 6 'h' of the Drugs and Cosmetics A ct and SHRI N. DENNIS: This project has can be liven or .dispensed to a patient vital national, strategic, security and de- only on tbe basis of Doctor's prescription. fence importance. A situation may arise It cannot be procured by a patient when Indian ships may find it difficult to ; straight from the retail stores. sail from west coast to east coast Moreo- ver,the Indian ships now have to 10 Sethusamudaram Ca nat Project round Sri Lanka and Trincomallee. Trin- comallee is known as the Eye of the + Indian Ocean, \\here as many as 800 war *356. SH&I N. DENNIS: ships could be hidden unnoticed, which DR. V. RAJBSHW ARAN : will be a risk at the time of tension in this area; Moreover, because of the Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be tense Situation and changed circumstances pleased to state : in that area, this project has to be con. (a) whether Government propose to sidered very seriously for implementation. have a second look at the Sethusamud- ram canal project in Tamil Nadu in MR. SPEAKER Please put the view of the prevailing circumstances in question. the region ; aad

(b) if, so, whether the scheme is SHRI N. DENNIS : The implementa- proposed to be elaroined by a new com- tion of this project is necessary. May I mittee of experts '1 know from the hOD. Minister whether im.. mediate steps would be iaken for the THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT implementation of the project by taking (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b) No into consideration the national importance decision as yet has been taken by Govt. involved. on the report of the corom ittee of experts. SHRI BANSI LAL: The national SHRI N. DENNIS; This very im- importance in this CaSe is disputed. Tbere portant project is kept pending on the are views in this case~ As soon as the shelf gathering dust for the past 125 consultation with all the Ministries con- years. sinceits nest proposal in 1860. cerned are over, we will take a decision. It was the answer tbat no decision is tak en by the Government. If tbe feasi- SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU Even biJ!ty ot the scheme and Its Utility bas wtule Pandit Ja wahar Jal Nehru was the been testified by severa! Committee &.e- Prime Minister, he had promised to take ports. Now, ships salhng from the West up this project; and after Mr. Nehru, Coast to the East Coast take circuitous Mrs. Indira Gandhi was there; and after route around:Sf! Laoka. ThiS project IS her, our young dynamic Prime Minister to deepen lhe shaliow Palk Straits lYlOg has come. May I know from the hone between India and Sri }Janka. Implementa- M.nister-l want a cat egorical answer from tion of thiS proJ eet WOtl Id Snort~n the the Minister of Transport-wbether be is go- distance, save urn e and cost, accele- ing to tak~ up this project or not, because rate toe llnp.lOVements of the ports it is pending for mor~ than 2S years, It is in tbe Soutb aDd bumuJate economic and not a recent programme. It is pending for iodu.)tria& d~~eJopmeot of thtS region the last 25 years. Even while I was a wblCD IS a backward area. Minister in Tamil Nadu, I pressed for it. Even then, you arc now saying that an . So may I know whetber tbe Govern- expert committee is going iDto it ; aDd . mont would cOllslder toe great improtan ce you are giving the very same answer. I involved in Ule project and talec immediate waDt a categorIC. 1 reply. de~iljon for its ear I, implementation '1 SHRI BANSI LAL : We are still con- SHitl BANS! LAL: Sir, the decision aidoriDl ic. will be takeD as 100D .. tbe CODlultations -II'OOVlr, Ma. SPEAKE.& : The bOD. Mcmbor i. i i oNi Answirs not sat sfied with consistency. The Minis- SHRI S. KRISHN \ KUMAR: As part ter's re'ply is categorically consistent. of the Cancer Control . Programme, we have already set up nine resional Cancer Now next que~tion No. 357: Mrs Geeta Centres. Three of them were set up in Mukh~rji and Mr Gurudas Kamat are not the 5th Plan itself, and six of them after- there. Question 358 Dr Chandra Shekhar ward~ • We do not have any prOlramme Tripathi is also not there. Now Mr Ragbu· at the moment to increase the number of rna Reddy-Question No. 359. these centres.

Cancer due to genetic disorders and en- PROF. P. J. KURIEN Are these 'fironmental pollution centres we)) equipped?

*359. SHRI M. RAGHUMA SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: I have; yet to put the second suppl emeota REDDY: Will the minister of HEALTH rYe AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to PROF. P. J. KURIEN: I am only state : helping the hon. Member. (a) whether Goverement's att ention MR. SPEAKER: Unsolicited? has been drawn to th e press report appearing in tbe 'Timfs of India' dated 21 .August, 1985 wherein it has been stated SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Is the that genetic disorders and environmental government having any proposal to e9l(a- pollution together with certain yet un- blish a centre in each district headquarters known causes can make children suscept i- because in rural erea. it is very difficult to ble to carne er; and detect early stages of cencer? The rural poor people are not in a position to go to (b) if so, what steps ha\'e been taken the State Capa tils or Delhi. Is such a by the Government to avoid such threat? propos~l there Wiih the government with special request froQl Andhra Pradesh? THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FAM[LY WELFARE SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : The

@ Rs. 50 1 000/. per centre for setting up have a central a)sistancc scheme for cencer of Early Cancer Detection Centres; and in detection centre under which Rs. 50,000/· the Seventh five Year Pian stress is being are given for setting up of ECD Ceo tree laid on the imparting of educatioa repr- There ar e eae!} for ho:;pital tumour registri. dina prevention of this disease. es. 27 ear Iy detection centres in tbe country established with assistance from MOH aDd SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : Can- with WHO assistance. Tbere are 25 pott- cer is one of the dang erous di.5cases. I partem tests pap-smear centres under the want to know from the han. Minister bow Department of Family Welfare, 6 natioDa I maoy research centres were established cancer relistries under ICMR. durina the 6th five year plan, aDd how maoy they are loin, to e8tablish durin8 SHRI M. RAOHUMA REDDY: M1 tbe 7th PIau. requOIt it wbotber you art loin, to .... 13 Or,,' Allswlrs . AORAHAYANA 2t, 1907 (SAKAl

IaUab a centre In each district headquarters; to export $ucb vacciDes with a view to you have Dot covered lbat point. earn fore ian exchange?

SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Tbe SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: While eoDstraint on resources wiH not allow us r~cognising the need for continuing resear- to go beyond what I h3.ve stated. ch in our effort to introduce a contracep- tive vaccine, I would like to teJl the hone DR. V. VENKA1BSH : In this ultra member that the procedure is very cum- modern world, our young, dY~1amjc Prime bersome and it wil1 tak e a long period of Minister wants' to brin~ a II technologies time and we are in the preliminary stage. from outsid e and start industry in this It is expected tbat S-10 years will proba- country. Before committing this, are you bly elapse before we can do all the staaes loiag to have any legislation to pr~vent on animals and humans, different phase this pollution hazards, which is causing study before we can hope ttl introduce more can eers in our country? this vaccine.

MR. SPEAKEa : He had replied to SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH MALIK: this yesterday. Not relevant. Irrelevant. Do the government propose to constitute a study group and en.-isage a national SHRI S KRISHNA KUMAR: Anti- d ebat e and bave a national plan to meet po)lut ion measures are handled by the the a larming situation or a rising population nodal Ministry of Envirofiment and also in the country? by the Labour Ministry.

New vaccine to control pregnancy SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : This is too a general question. The Ministry of Family Welfare is already assisted in this *360. SHRI SlJBHASH YADAV regard by a national council for health and family welfare. We have also a national SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH population council and our formal and MALIK information brain trust is advising us in this regard. Will the Minister of HEALTtI AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: SHRI A. CHARLES : There are Dum- ber of herbs available an over tbe bill (a) whether any new vaccine to control areas and it is a fact that some of them pregnancy has recently been developed in are ]ocally used in a very crude manner for the country; tbe control of pregnancy.

(b) whether the human trials of this SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU He vaccine have also been conduct ed; and knows it.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE But unfortunateJy. due care is Dot DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE given to tbe research and development of (~HRI s. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (c) those herbal medicines. May I know Resrarch is beina carried out to develop a from the Minister whether a programme vaccine for birth control. Human clinical wi) I be chalked out for research on the trials are expected to be,.n early next herbal medicines so that it may be used OD )ear. a massive seal e for family planninl programmes? SHRI DHARAM P.\L SINGH MAUK: Wben the vacciDs for birth control are SHRI S. KRI~HNA KUMAR : The lit-elJ to come in tbe open market for Ministry of Health and Family Welfare-are public sale, has the loverntneocany plan conscious of the need to utilise the indileD- DECEMBER '12, 1985

OUI systems of medicine and their potontial SHRI' S. KRISHNA KUMAR : The for contraception. We have given grants first prototype vaccine developed in New and are assisting tbe Council of Indigenous Delhi under tbe leadership of our eminent Systems of Medicines in Ayurvedic and immunologist Dr. Talwar is Beta-sub unit Unani medicin es. At the momen t various of the HCG linked to tetanus toxoid aDd plans and schemes were advanced but out that is the name of the vaccine. We are of the plans which are advanced and the try ing to speed up the va rious trials (or various claims made, only two sources, the introduction of the vaccine and the namely, 'Insapgin' which is a common J,uman trials are expected to start carly in lautive in Ayurveda, and another 'IsBpgul" 1986. and another plant namely BANJAURI from Bihar have been established as being useful As I said earlier, we have a scheme for in controlling fertility. promoting indigenous medicines and tbeir potential for development of new methods SHRI A. CHARLES : What about fur- of contraception. ther researcb? MR. SPEAKER : Sbrimati Jayanti MR. SPEAKER : That is aU right now. Patnaik. Absent. Yes, Dr. Bhoi? But please do not try to make it an elaborate question. Put a very Shri Sat ya gopa 1 Misra-Absent. simple question, only on contraceptives. Shri Sanat Kumar Mandal.-Absent. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHO} : In reply to one supplementaty the bon. Minister Shri Bholanatb Sen-Absent. said tbat the samp1 es of pregnanc)' vaccine wHl available in 'he market in the next Shrimati Kishori Sinha-Absent. few days and in the next supplementary be replied that it will take up to five or six Shri K. Kunjambu. months. I would like to know from tbe bon. Minister categorically what is the Air·lndla In~ome on Gulf Se~tor name of the vaccine, in which research + laboratory these tests are going on • 36S. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU and what are the types of animals, PROF. P.J. KURIEN : rabbits and others which are used and what is the percentage of success. At Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be the same time in Ayurvedic and Unani pleased to state : medicines, till now bas any progress been made? (a) the total income of A ir-India on the Gulf-sector durinl 1985 ; MR. SPEAKER: Do not elaborate. (b) bow does it compare with the earn- [ TrlUUlation] ings from tbis sector last year ;

This was what I was afraid of; if you (c) whether Government have looked divert your question to birth co~trol, it into the complaint of Gulf-passeDlers tbat may live ril e to other questions. tbe fare in tbat sector is very biab ;

[English] (d) if so, the steps taken in thil DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: I want re.ard ; and to know whether tbe bon. Minister and (e) tbe fare being charged in tbis lec- his Ministry would like to look to the tor by otber airlines? problem,-I am simplifying-to live assistance to the research institutions in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE -country which are in tbe voluntary sectors DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION aDd cumbersome procedure sbould be (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER):

India-Gulf sector during the period Janu- less distance. the time taken by the ftight ary. 1985 to September. 1985 was is much Jess, oper ationa1 expenses of Air RI.2S 3.52 crores ; eluring the correspond- India are much Jess and when it is a mono- iDa period in 1984 it was Rs.233.11 poly affair of Air India, why Air India is crores. charging mor e fromTrivendrum-Gulf passen. gers' This anomaly has been pointed out fo (c) and (d) Some representations have the Government many a time in tbe Houle been received 'regarding the fares on tbe and a number of representat ions have been India.. Gu1f sector. However, the fares being made. These passengers are poor ski11ed charled now are I.A.T.A./Government workers who go for earning their )ive1i. approved fares and aU airlines, including bood ••• Air Indja have to charge these fares. MR. SPEAKER Please put YOUr (e) No definite information is available question. in this regard. However, it is a fact that some airlines do undercut the fares to PROF. P.l. KURTEN: I am pleading on increase their share of the market. behalf of thousands of poor passengers. Will the Minister examine this anomaly. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: How best is Whether other sectors are making loss and the fare in the Gulf sector compared with the Trivendrum-Gulf srctor is making pro-. the other sectors where Air Injia is opera.. fit and this profit is because you are over- ting? charging them-charging much more than what you are charging in other sectors? SHRt lAODISH TYTLER: The air- When it is your monopoly, why do you fare is controll ed by I AT A and a 11 the charge more~ why do you speak of lATA? airlines have fo agree on this. There are certain air) ines which are undercutt ing. SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: AJ] fares But we are controlled by the lATA. are control] ed by lATA.. SARI K. KUNJAMBU : What are the PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Here it is your main points in the representations received monopoly. from the Oulf passengers and what steps have been taken by the Government in this SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER: Even then regard? the fares are control1ed by lATA.

SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: We have PROF.P.J.KURIEN: Let them exa- not received any repre~entation from the mine whether there is an anomaly. Gulf passengers. MR. SPEAKER: No debate. SHRI K. KUNlAMBU: So many representations have been made. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: Sir. now that the international flights from Gulf PROF. P.l. KURIBN: I am SOrr) to countries are being extended to Hyderabad, say lba't tbe Minister is not true to facts does the Government expect bigher income . when he says that representations were not from the traffic to Gulf countries, and also retei¥ed. So many representations ~ere what arc the number of flights which they liven on tbe subject. I myself have wntten are expecting every week or proposing to to tbe Government about this. The Triven- have every week to Hyderabad? Win the drum-Gulf sector is operated by Air India hone Minister th'ink of extending it to at only. It is a monopoly of Air I":dia. But least' four flights from Hyderabad every you are charging from tbe Trlvendr~. week? Gulf passengers the same amount as IS charged from 0 Lilf.Bombay-Trive~drum MR. SPEAKER: How can he teU? passengers wbereas the distance and t~e You bave. t~ give another notice for this. time of ftisbt in TrivendrQm-Gulf sect.or IS He cannot just tell offhand how much will beget .•. ,. ~ . m\lch less tbaD in Gu)f·Bombay-Tnven- drum ,ector.. So when they travel much (Inte"ll,ptloru) It Oral AlISlNrl DBCBM.8BR 12, 1'.5

SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Or at the international ftights will .tart serviq loast be should answer about extending it the international traftic. to at Joast four flights per woek from Hyderabad... (Interruptions). SHRI S. JAIPAL RBDDY: I put different question, Sir. MR. SPBAKER : No, DO. Are you prepared for that? I do Dot thtnk so. [Transltltlo,,] SHRI JAGDISH TYTLBR: Sir, I would like to answer the bon. Member that MR. SPEAKER: You should be con-. we are starting an international flight to ceraed with the substance rather tban the Hyderabad which is arriving at Hyderabad source. OD tbe 20th early morning. If we get enough traffic, naturally we would like to Increase the number of flights to Hyderabad. MR. SPEAKER : SHRI T. BASHBER: Sir, the hone Shri Srikanth Datta - Abient Minister has said tbat the fares are decided Shri Nityananda Mishra - Absellt by lATA. Actually, there have been complaints regarding the exborbitant fare hikes Shri Amar Roypradhan - He bas in Gulf sector: tbat is, from Trivendrum to taken a Gulf countries. Recently, last month also, leave or they have increased it further. I can give absence. the figures also but since the time is not permitting, I am not doing so. I would Sbri Ananta Prasad Sethi - Absent like to know from the hone Minister whe- Shr j Jagannatb Prasad ther lATA is unilaterally deciding these - Absent fares or they' do it in consultation with the Prof. Madhu Dandavate - Absent countries concerned. Shri Braja Mohan - Absent SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER: All the Mohanty member countries sit together and they Sbri Shyam L~1 Yadav Absent decide the fares. - Shrimati Geeta - Absent SHRI T. BASHEER: In this case Mukherjee whet her ...••. (Interruptions). Shri Ourudas Kamat - Absent MR. SPEAKER: Tbat is aU rigbt. Dr. Chandra Shekhar - AbseDt Tripathi SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, by what time does the Minister hope to dec- Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik Abient lare Hyderabad Airport as an international Shri Satyagopal Misra AbseDt airport? In case of indefinite delay, will the Minister be kindly able to explain the Sbri Sanat Kumar - Abient reasons and difficulties for tbe same? MandaI

SHRI JAODISH TYTLER: I had Shri Bbolanath Sen - Abaeat initially a Iso said tbat we can start international flights rrom any airport in the coun- Shrimati Kishori Sinha - Absent try. There are only four international Sbri Srikanth Datta - Abient airports in our country. that is, Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta and Madras. Since we Sbri NityaDa nda Misbra - Abient are starting the international fti,bt to Jiyderabad on th. 1 'th, dial il thed., ---- ~t, AORAHAYANA 21, itO? (SAKA) Writt6n Answer, 2~

WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BIHAR

[En,liJ'h] Anti-cholera Vaccine (Concentrat ed) 4,70,000 Medical Assistance to Flood and Cyclonic mi. Affected Areas MANIPUR *350. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : (a) Anti-cholera Vaccine 1,25,000 Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (b) T.A. Vaccine 30,000 mI. (a) whether Government bave provided a~sistance to the recent and medical flood MAHAR ASHTRA cyclonic affected areas in different parts of tbe country; and T.T. Vaccine 5,00,000 doses (b) if so, the details thereof and the details of medical assistance 10 far provi- UTTAR PRADESH ded to the affected areas, State-wise? (a) Concentrated Anti- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE snake' (Venom Serum) DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY ,WELFARE (liquid) 1 O,O( 0 (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and rol. (b) A statement is given below. (b) Concentrated Anti- Statement snake Venom Serum (Dry). 20,000 During the year 1985.86, the following mI. m~dical assistance has be.n rend~red to th, flood and cyclone-affected areal in tlte ORISSA count, y so far Anti-cholera vaccines 41akh TAMIL NADU doses. (a) Anti-chot era Vaccines 10 lakhs dos es Inter·Caste Marriages for Reduction in Severity of a Blood Disease Cb) Anti.typhoid V~ccines 1 lakh doses *351. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: Will the MinJster of HEALTH PUNJAB AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to [state: (a) Ant i-cholera Vaccnies 3,15,000 mi. (a) whtther jnter·caste 'and inter·comm- ,. un ity marriages l eS4Jen the severity of a (b) T.A. Vaccine' 25,000 blood disease wbose victims bardly survive ml. their teens;

(c) Concentrated Anti- (b) whether the victims of Thalassaemia snake Venom Serum need frequent blood transfusions as their (liquid) 1,000 haemoglobin content is low and it is also mt. a risky undertaking as frequent transfusion of blood wilbout plasma and white c~lls (d) Concentrated Anti· can deposit iron in the body affcctir,g the anako Venom Serum. 2,000 patient'. heart. liver, pancreas and '"'darkCD mi. tIlo akin; &Del :. 'DECEMBeR 12. i985

(c) if so, the reaction of Government (a) whether a suggestion has been made in this regard? that Government shouJd pursue expedi· tiousJy the policy of setting up national THE DEPUTY MINISl ER IN THE water grid as a Jong term solution to pro.. DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE vide adequate water, supply to various (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMNR): (a) The States; and incidence of Thalassaemia is dependent upon the carrier status of the marriage part- (b)' if so, the reaction of Government ner. thereto? (b) Yes, Sir. (c) Pre-mar i tal genetic counselling lHE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- followed by avoidarce of marriage among URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): carriers is the only method to prevent this (a) and (b) Proposals for' linking different disease. Alternate method is to impJe- river systems have been made from time to ment a programme 0;' ~creening byante- time and the broad techno-economic as.. natal diagnosis for women at risk of hav- pects of tbe proposals bave been examined. ing affected foetuc:;es and use of therapeutic Keeping in view the national perspective abortion in appropriate cases. The Indian for wa ler resources development outlined Coupcil of Medical Research has set up a in 1980, studies and investigations with Centre for the latter purpose at Bombay. regard to inter-linking of peninsular rivers have been taken up. [Translation] Loss Incurred by D.T.C. New Trains on Delhi-Shamli Sabaranpar Line *354. SARI BRAJAMOHAN MOHA. ·352. SHRI JAGANNATH PRASAD: NIY : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT Win the Minister of TRANSpORT be p)ea- be pleased to state : sed to stat e :

(a) whether Government ar e consider- (a) wheteher the Delhi Transport ing introducing some new express pasc:;en- Cor pOT a t ion has incurred a loss of morc ger trains on Delhi·Shamli-Sabaranpur than 60 cr('res during the year 1984·85 ; Railway Line on Northern RaiJwa}·;

(b) if so, the time by which these (b) the Sev cnth Plan Projection of the trains are proposed to be introjuced; Delhi Transport Corporation; and and Cc) the 1etails thereof? (c) j,f not; the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. (b) and (c) Against an approved outlay (h) Does not arisc. of Rs. 100 croces during tbe VII Plan Period a sum of Rs. 70.90 crOles pertain (c) Mainly due to ~hor tal e of coacbes to acquisition of 2825 buses (1118 on and terminal facilil ies in Delhi area. replacement account and 1707 on additions account). The baJance amount of RI. [English] 29.10 crores is planned to be spent on infrastructural facilities such as for coos- Setting up National Water Grid truction of new Depots, new nodal Points/ *353. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: terminals, bus-que shelters aDd develop- Will the Minister of WATER RESOURC- ment of facHities in the existina work.hops ES be pleased to st ate: aDd other infrastructure. [TranslationJ (h) To reHeve the preSS1Jre on the limited plan resources allocated to the Ticketless Trsl'ellcrs Railways aqd thereby incr eal e th eir availability 'for various other important *355. SHRI SHYAM LAL YADAV: needs. Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to sts t e : (c) No such proposal is under consi. deration at present. (a) the number of ticketless travellers a PPlohendeJ during June to September 1985; and ( Translation] Serving Liquor in Air·India Planes (b) whether Govcrriment are considering to give some special training to guards *358. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR and booking cletks with a view to check this menace? TRIPATHI : WiU the Minister of TRANS. PORT be pI eased to state : THE MINISTER OF ST A TE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (~HRI (a) the reasons for which liquor is MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) 16.52 served openly to VIrs in Air·India planes ; lakhs. (b) whether Government propose to (b) No, Sir. impose restriction on it in the eontext of the prohibition policy of tbe GOiCm- ment ; and [English]

(c) if so, by what t :me and if not, the CODstruction an" Operation of Inlctnd reasons therefor? Container Depots in Private Sector

*357. SHRIMAfl GEETA MUKHER- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE JEE: DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION SHRIGURUDASKAMAT: (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER): (a) Air . India follows tbe practice of serving free Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be liquor to its first class/business class passengers, like other international carri- pleased to state: ers. (a) whether it is a fact that the Iadian Railways have asked the private secter to (b) and (c) No, Sir. Since this prac- take over construction and operation of tice is followed by all major airlInes, it is inland container depot s; not proposed to restrict the practice. Such a step may divert the high·fare paying passenaers of Air India to other airlines (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and leadioj to decline of traffic and consequeo: loss of revenue to Air India. (c) whether the Tatas are going to set up inland container depots~ [English]

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE l\lodemiaatioD of Major Ports Duriol DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI the Seventh Plan MADHA V&AO SCINDIA): (a) It bas been dccided to invite outside parties in· *361. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT. cluding those in public and private sector to operate Inland Container Depots OD NAIK : Will the Mlnister of TRANSPO& T ,uitablc torms aDd cooditioDI. be plealed to stat e; ~ , Writ;.,. Allswi,i I'rllt'" AlUwe" 21

Statemennt

Schemes Costi"g Rs· 2 C, ores or More Includ~d in 71h Plan

(RI. In crores)

Port Scheme Estimated Outlay in cost 7th Plan

CALCUTTA I. ADDITION

1. Container handJinl facilities 3.50 0.90 Phase-II

HALDIA I. MODERNISATION

1. Strengtbening of existjna 3.50 3.50 Oil Jetty

2. Cons truction of Roads in 2.00 0.60 Dock Area

II. ADDITION

1. Second Oil Jetty including 31.45 31.32 tUlS.

2. Additional General Cargo Berth 9.00 7.00

3. Augmentation of ex;st;ng 10.00 2.50 container terminal

4. Residential quart ers at 5.00 1.75 Cbiranjibpur

BOMBAY I. MODERNISATION

1. Improved Oil and Chemical band· ling facilities at Pir Pau;

(a) Replacement of Pir Pau Jetty 15,00 lS.00

(b) Construction of RCC Trestle 6.50 6.50 2. Improved oil bandlinJ!t facilities 3.10 3.10 a t Bucher Islands 3.' Modernil8tioD of c listin. 30.00 7.00 docb 2. Wrltt,,, A.uw"a AORARAYANA 21, 1907 (SA~A) Writ"" Answer~ 30

4. New navigational aids for main 4.00 4.00 harbour channel

2. ADDITION

I. Procurement of 9 DOS rubber 14.58 14.'. tyred container yard cranes

2. Procuremerit of 2 Nos. quay 13.55 13.55 side container crane.

3. RCC tracks for traDstainer 4.20 4.20 'cranes and Paving of transta'ncr yards at Timber pond

MADRAS I. ADDITION

1. Extension of conta iner berth 30.00 20.00

2. Procurement of two Nos. 4.00 4.00 Transfer cranes

COCHIN I. ADDITION

1. Procuerment of container hand- 15.00 13.00 ling equipments

2. Payment for CSL tug 2.80 2.80

3. Procurement of onC tug 5.50 1.10

VISAKHAPATNAM I. MODERNISATION

1. Extension & improvement 2.00 0.50 of port Railway s)stem

11. ADDITION

1. Construction of coal berth 14.00 5.00

2. Upgradation/iron ore bandJing '25.00 8.00 facilities to handle 1,70,000 DWT

KANDLA I. ADDITION

1. Seventh Cargo berth 22.00 5.00

2. FBcilities to bandle POL 27.00 3.00 products st VadiDar

MOR MUG AO I. ADDITION

1. AddU ional Barg e unloadinl 5.50 5.50 ' jetty

2. Additional General carlO bertb 14.00 '.3Z 31 W,itl.n Amw.r, DECEMBER 12, 1985 Wrltte" A.n.sW~'8· 32

NEW MANGALORE I. MODERNISATION

1. Development and improvement of 2.00 2.00 road network system

TUTICORIN I. ADDITION

1. Construction of one jetty at 11.00 4.00 Tuticorin

2. Procurement of 30 T. BP Tug S.30 5.35

PAIlADIP I. ADDITION

1. Construction of Roads, cu Iverts 2.50 2.50 one bridge

2. Coa) handling facilities 10.00 S.OO

II. MODERNISATION

1. Electrical installation inside 2.00 2.00 port area

Modernisation of Kbaragpor Railway Plant, Unit Exchange Spares Worksbop and essential Civil Engineering works to eliminate production *362. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: bottJenecks due to inadequate Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plant layouts. pleased to state: (ii) Phase-II of the Project has (a) the plan and programme of his been included in the Railway Ministry to modernise the Kbaragpur Rail- Budget 1984·8S at a eost of way Workshop; and about Rs. 26.11 crores. The project provides tor provision (b) the details thereon of modem Machinery & Plant, Unit Exchange Spares and Civil THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Enrineering works, in the coo- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI text of changed product-mix of MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Modernisa- activities of the workshop. 10- tion of Kharagpur Workshop has been frastructural facilities ar e plan .. planned in pbases. Pbase-I of tbe plao ned to be created for Periodi. launched in 1981 .. 82 is nearing comple- cal overhaul of Electric L0co- tion. Phase-II of the plan is now beiDg motives and Electrical Multiple undertaken. Unit Stock.

(b) (0 Pbase-l'of the Modernisation Ter•• aet ." foreign AlrliDes to operate Plaa of Khara.pur Workshop from Calcutta was included in the Railway *363. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN. Bud&et in 1981-82. The pre- DAL: Icnt estimated cost of the pro- SHRJ BHOLANATH SEN: ject is about Rs. 13.27 crore•. The project cat ered to provi- WiU 'lae Minister 01 TRANSPORT be sion of modern Machinery & pleascd to Itat e : AORAHAYANA 21, It07 (SAI'.4) Written Anlwe" 34

(8) whether a number of international THE'MINISTER OF STATE IN THE carri"ers are willing to fly to Calcutta if the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Union Government give them permission MADHAVRAO SCJNDIA): (a) Yer) Sir. to operate onwards to Singapore or other destinations in the Far East; (b) In about 3 months time.

(b) whether some or the foreign Air- [Tran~lation] lines view CaJcut~a as a viable stop-o,ver point en route to destinations in tbe Far Funds for a~qDjsifjon of wagons East, especially Singapore; *366. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA Cc) -if so, whether Government have NARASlMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will tbe considered the terms set by the Airlines Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to for Calcutta balt; and state:

(d) tbe decision taken in the matter? (a) whether Government are aware of the shortage of wagons in the countr};

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whetber any estimate has been DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION made of tbe total requiremtnt of wagons (SHRI JAGDISH l'YTILER) : (a) Govern- in tbe Seventh pJan; ment of India have received, from only one airlines," namely Singapore Airlines, a (c) if so, tbe number of wagons pro· request for introducing direct air services posed to be acquired in the above plan between Sin~apore and Calcutta. period;

(b) Only Balkan airlines (Bul~arian (d) the funds t:'armaked fer that pur- Airlines) had evinced interest in operating pose; and to Par Ea st especially Bangkok via Ca1- cutta. (e) the details thereof?

" (c) and (d) An air services agreement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE was concluded between India and Bulgaria DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI as a result of which the Balkan airlinec; MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. was authorised to operate on the rout e Sofla~Abu Dhabi-Calcutta-Bangkok, But (b) The total requirement of wagons the Balkan airlines has not indicated the dl'ring the Seventh Plan period bas been date from which it wjH start operating to/ estimat ed as around 96,000 wa~ons in through Ca lcutta. terms of r(lur-wheeler units.

(d) and Ce) Approximately 1 Rs.. 2,000 *364. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will the Miniqter of TIlANSPORT be erOr es fer wagons, out C'f a total provisi<'D crores procurement pleased to stat e : Of Rs. 4290 for of rOI fing stock.

(a) whether Railways have received [En('lishJ offers from several ) eadinl companies to own walons on bebalf of bulk consumers to help them meet the scarcity of wagons; Training and coaching 'aciUties for games and *367. SHRI NITYANANDA MISHRA : WHJ the Minjster of HUMAN (b) if so~ when a decision is likely to RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT te phased he taken on the offers received? to state: 35 tvrltt." AIISWfIr. DBCI!·MBER 12, 1985

Ca) wbether Union Government have 3., Tbe Sports Authority of India bas taken steps for the extension of traini1'11 launched a scheme of Sport Tale. and coaching fecilities for various lames nt Search Contest which envisages and sports in different States; selection of 1 SO to 200 boys aDd {rirls the age aroup of 10-12 (b) if so, the names of the States where· in years for admission to schools to such facUitjes have been made available; be adopted by the Sports Autho- and rity of India, in various State. for providing sports coaching in ;ddi- (c) the details of the steps taken In tion to academic studies. this regard In tbe State of Orissa?

THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE 4. Grants to State Sports Councils DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS for organising, inter-alia, annual AND SPORTS AND WOMEN#S WEL· coaching camps at State level. FARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : The &cheme is operated by the (a) to (c) AI though 'Sports" is a State sub- Department of Youth Affairs· and ject uod er' the Constitution of India. the Sports. Centra) Government has in operation certain schemes for extending traininl and Coaching facilities for pmes in different s. Und er tbe scheme of Neharu States. The more important among them Yuvak Kendras operated by the are mentioned below : Department of Yoush Affairs and Sports, 210 Nehru Yuvak Kefldras in different State~ cafer to varions 1, The· Netaji Subhash National activities relating to youtb inclu- Institut e of Sports (NSNIS> which ding prcmotion of sports by coa- functions under the Society for ching and training the rural National Institutes of Physical young. Education and Sports (SNIPES) operated the National Coaching Scheme under which 25 R. egional In addit ion, Government propose to Coaching Centres in different Sta- launch a sch erne for setting up Sports Hos- tes provide an opportunity to tels attached to Regiona! Coaching Centres yount men, women and 'children of tbe Netaji Subhas National Institute of to undergo traininl and coaching. Sports, to enable non·students and even employed persons of some standard to have facilities for improving their performance 2. Under the scheme of SNIPES in sports and games. This will be a scheme Field Stations in Unh ersities im- of SNIPES operated by Netaji Subhasb plemented by NSNIS, 33 SNIPES National Institute of Sports. Field Stations bave been set up in a number of Universities in vari· ous States to encourage College The State-wise break-uo of Resinoal and University students to take Coaching Centres, SNJPES Field Stations part in sports and to undergo coa- and Nehru Yuvak J( endras is 8S ching_ under :-

Name of Statel Number of Number of Number of Union Territory Nehru Yuvak Regional SNIPES field Kendr&l Coaching Station. Centres

Andhra Pradesh 14 1 1

AHam 8 1 1

Arunachal PradClb 2 3' Wrl",n Answ~r s AOltAHAYANA i 1. 1907 (SAKA) Wrltt,n Answer.) ~8

1 2 3 4

Andaman & Nicobar Islands 2

Bihar 13 1 1 Chandigarh 1 1 1 Delhi 3 1 1 Guluat 6 1 1 Goa, Daman & Diu 2 1 Harayana 5 1 1

,). Himanchal Pradesh 8 1 1

Jammu & Kashmir 1 1 1

Karnataka 12 1 3

Kerala 8 1 3

Lakshdwecp 1

Madhya Pradesh, 15 1 3 Maharashtra 3 1 2

Manipur S 1 1

Meghalaya 2 1 1

Mizoram 1 1

Naga1and 3

Orissa 10 1 1

Pondicherry 2

Punjab 12 1 2

Rajasthan 17 1 2

Sikkim 1 J 2 TamiJnadu 10 1 1 Tripura 2 1 3 Uttar Pradesh 32 1 1 West Bengal 8 Dadra and Nagar

Haveli 1

Total: 210 25 33 • to. '" T.' :'"".'.. ':,:,." .. ~, "," _, ' ...... r . --- .. ---... - -" _.... ~ .. "- ...... - ... """.,..'" j9 Wrlt/~n AI1Sw.rS DBcEMBER 12, 1985

One Regional Coaching eentre at ladesh pact on health has been signed in Cuttack and one SNIPES Fie1d Station at September 1985 ; and Utlcal University (Bhubaneswar are already functioning in the State of Orissa. Besides, (b) if so. the details tbereof ? 10 Nehru Yuvak Kendras viz., B.langir, Dbenkanal, Koraput, Sambalpur, Sunder- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE garh, Berhampur. Keonjbar, Baripada DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Bhawanipatnl and Pbulbani to which 13 (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and SN NSNIS Sports coa cb es are attached (b) An agr eement was signed on tbe "Ad- are also meeting the needs of the rural ministrative arranaemeots for the Healtb peop) e in Orissa. control Of Sea, Air and Land Traffic'" on the 9th September, 1985 between India New railway projects of West Bengal and Bangladesh. duriag Seventb Five Year Plan The aims of this agreement, under 3560. SHrtI ANIL BASU: Win the Article 92 of the International Health Minister or TRANSPORT be pJeased to Regulations, are to create a "common state: area" for the Health Control of Interna- tional Traffic between the countries, to (a) whether. the Prime 'Minister and the facilitate health control, to make more Railway Minister had assured that no new effective the measures to prevent the railway project in West Bengal had been importation of djsease, to facilitate travel cancelled; and to provide facilities for "sinlle point check.H (b) when the West Bengal Railway Project s are expect ed to be taken up for The agreement provides for exchange const ruction; of information about Sea and Airports of tbe respective countries, epidemiological, (c) whether the projects have been in- situation, change in poJicy affecting ad. cluded in the Seventh Five Year Plan; and ministration on International Health Regu- lations and requirements of General (d) if not ~ reasons tberefor? Health measures applicable to all ships/aircrafts coming from outside the excepted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE areas in tbe two countries. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) There is Revised rent of sub·ordinate qoarters in no record available to show that any such SOUfh Eastern Railway aeneral assurance was given. 3562. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: (b) No time frame can be given, as Will the Minister of TR.ANSPORT be plea- tak jog up of new proj ects would depend sed to state : on the avai lability of resources, which ar e under s evcre strain at present. (a) wt ether the rent for sub-ordinate quart ers occupIed by Gazetted Officers was (c) anc Cd) The on·goinl projects will revised @ Rs. 5.54 per 100 Iq. ft. with be progre~ed to the elCtent funds can be effect from 1 August, 1976 in South Eas- made available, on y~ar to year basis, tern Rail way ; during the 7 th Plan. (b) whether such rent should have Indo-Bangladesh Pact on Health been revised with effect from 1 Au&ust, 1981 ; 35bl. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Will (c) so, whether the re~iaion bas been the Miniiter of HEAL1H AND FAMILY jf \\'ELFARE be pleased to state : made; and

(a) whether it is a fact tbat Indo-Bini· (d) if Dot~ the reaSODS thereof? 41 tf'rtti'n Answe,.s AORAHAYANA 2i, 190; (SAKA) Written Answers 4i

THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE sion into a national memoria I doe~ not DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI arise. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) Yes. Sir. Global Tenderi for Metro RaHway P.roject (c) and Cd) The review is pending as 3565. SHRI AMAL DATTA: WiJJ there bas been delay in eol1ect ion of reI e. the Minister of TRANSPORT be pJeased to vant data. The collection of data is now state : almost complete and the review is Hkely to be finalised early. (a) whether any global tenders have been issued for any part of the Metro Railway. National Memorial for Dr. B.R. Project, if so, the details of such tenders Ambedkar inc1uding the scope, and va Jue and the party to whom awarded ; and 3563. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (b) what conditions if any, are ineore DEVELOPMENT be pleased to ~tate : porat ed in such global ter dersto enliur e that indigenous technology .wbere\rer avaiJ. (a) whether it is a fact that the house able gets a fair chance? located at 1, THak Marg was the official re~idence of late Dr. D.R. Ambedkar as the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Free India's firat Law Mmister and the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS, (SHRI chief architect of Indian Constituhon ; MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. Global tenders for supply of equipments as (b) jf so, whether Government has ever indicated below have been called :_ consider ed any proposal to convert this house as a memo[lal to Dr. Ambedkar ; (i) Mis. Toyo Menka Kaisha Ltd., Japan·Vibro Sinker-one set, cost. (c) whether Government are aware of ing approx . .R s. 6.19 lakbs. a recent statement to the Press by the aged widow of Dr. Ambedkar as tohow she has (ii) MiS. NIKEX Hungarjpn Trading been preserving so long the personal effeels Co.-2 sets of Air Lock Cham. of Dr. Ambedkar in the hope that Union ~ers, costing approx. Rs. 39 lakhs. Government would take charge of them a~ objects of historicaJ significance by creating (iii) MiS. Fried Krupp, West Ger- a natjonal memorial for him in Delhi; many-Tramway Rails, 400 ton- (d) if so, whe~her Government propose nes, costing approx. Rs. 21.38 laths. to consider to convert th e ho l.lSe at 1, Tilak Marg as a national ~emorial ; and (iv) MIS. Beuel & Kjaer Export Ltd., (e) if not, the reasons therefor? Denmark-Vibration Meter, 1 set costing approx. Rs. 44,000. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (v) Mis. Geonor, Norway-Instru. CULTUR.E (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA.. mentation equipment, 13 Nos., TOl): (a) According to avajlable infor- costing approx. Rs. 1.14 lakhs. mation tbis was a requisitioned house allotted to late Dr. B.R. Ambedkar. (vi) MIs. Biccotest Ltd., U.K.-Cable Fault Location Instrument, one (b) No, Sir. set, costing approx. Rs. 1.48 lakhs. (,) No, Sir. (vli) MIs. Sun Trading Ioc., Japan- (d) and (e) This house was derequisi. Electronic Anemometer 2 No tioDcd in 1979 and, therefore, its GODvcr ... t' ,s., ~ loa apProx. Rs. 44,OUJ. DECEMBER 12, 1985

(viii) M/S. Kurz Instruments Inc., (b) Yes, Sir. U.S.A.-Air Velocity Meters,· 2 Nos., costing approx. Rs. 20,000. (c) There is no proposal to manufacture these aircraft in India. (ix) MIS. Gould Inc., U.S.A.-Recor- der with accessories" one set, cost- Stoppage of Mail/Express Trains at Bakh- ing approx. Rs. 1.86 Jakhs. tiyarpur Station

Apart from the above global tenders 3567. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: were called for sub-wav construction in Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- sections (A) & (B) of Chittaranjan Avenue sed to state : and contracts awarded to MIS. Hindustan Construction Co. Ltd. of India who are (a) whether it is a fact that Deluxe working in collaboration with TAISEI Cor- Tinsukhia Mail, Patn·Tata Express, Punjab poration of Japan. Approximate value of MaiJ and other super fast, trains do not the contract is Rs. 27.67 crores for section stop at Bakhtlyarpur railway station due to (A) & Rs. 39.81 crOTes for section (B). which passengers and tourists goinig to and" Foreign exchange element is approx. Rs.3.2 coming from Rajgirh, Pawapuri and crores for each of these two contracts. Nalanda have to face great inconvenience;

(b) Before an item is imported indigen- (b) if so, whether Government propose ous clearance from the import' angle is, to stop these trains at Bakhtiyarpur rail- obtained to establish that there are no way stations ; and indigenolas sources of supply for the iteln. Notwithstanding this provision if an indi- (c) if so, the time by which this matter aenous offer is received against a global is likely to be decided? tender, it is considered on merits. ' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (Translation] MADHAVRAO 'iCINDIA): (a) While it is a fact that 103/104 A.C. Express. 155/.. Airbuses witb Air India/Indian Airlines' t 56 Tinsukhia Mail, 83/84 Tata·Patna Express, 5/6 Amritsar Mail and 173/174 3566. SHRI BANWARI LAL Himgiri Express do not stop at Bakbtiyar- BAIRWA: \Vill the Minister of TRANS· pur station, on the other hand 13 pairs of PORT be pleased to state: Express and 8 pairs of passenger trains stop at Bakhtiyarpur and these are consi .. (a) the nember of Airbuses with Air dered adequate for the tourists going and India/Ind ian AIrlines and the number of coming from Rajauh, Pawapuri Road and States inter-linked with their flights; NaJanda. (b) No, Sir. (b) whether all th e airbuses have been purcbased from foreign countries; and (c) Does not arise.

(c) the arrangements made for produc .. [English] tion of airbuses in the country? New National Highway between Gopalpur THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'THE and Raipur Connecting National Highway DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION Nos. Sand 6 (SHRI lAG DISH TYTLER): (a) "The number of Airbus aircraft in the fleet of 3568. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Indian Airlines and Air India is 10 and 3 Will the Minister of TRANSPO& T be plea. respectively. Wbereas Air India is Dot sed to state : purely a domestic carrier, Indian Airline. is operatina to 8 States and 2 Union Terri- (a) whether Governmen t of Orissa bas tones witb Airbus airc:raft. IIDt their proposal for QOD&tructiOD of • AGRAH~YANA 21. 1907 (SAKA) W,itt,n AnJwers 46 new National Highway from Gopalpur in this stage to indicate details of renovation Orissa to Raipur in Madhva Pradesh. con- works to be carried out at Khara,pur in necting National Highway Nos. Sand 6 for the Seventh Plan period. the development of the adivasi belt of this area; and Setting up of Konkan Railway in Karns- taka (b) when this proposal was sent to Government for approval and the aetoin 3570. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: taken by tbe Government thereon ,1 Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF TRA~PORT (SHRI BANSI LAl): (a) and (b) The State Government of Orissa forwarded tbe (a) whether there is a PJoposal to set proposal for declaration of Gopalpur up Konkan Railway in Karnataka; \Orissa) to Raipur (in Madhya Pradesh) as a National Highway during the Sixth Five (b) if so, what is the present position Year PIan. However, the request of ' the of the proposal; State Government could not be acceded to (c) when it is going to be set up; and owing to severe financial c oDstraints. (d) details about the programme in Renovation of Kharagpur Railway Sta- this regard? tion during Seventh Plan

3569. SHRrSATVAGOPAL MISRA,: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Win the Minister of TRANSPORT be DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHR I MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (d) Fi. pJ eased to stat e : nal Lncation Engineering cum Traffic Sur- (a) whether his Ministry have taken vey for rew B.G. ]jne from MangaJore to any steps to renovate the KharallPur Rail- Madgoan a]on~witb updating of earlier way Station (S.E. Ra ilways) during 'the ~urveys in the remaining section of tbe Seventh Plan period; 1ine upto Roba has been taken up to evaluate tbe project as a whole. Decision (b) if so, the deta ils thereof; and on taking up constructioD of this Hne from Manga)ore end will be taken after comple· tion of these surveys depending on finan- (c) if not t the rea;o'lS therefor? cial remunerativene~s af the project and THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE ava;)abiJity of resources. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (c) The POSfS lying vacant in Kburda Road Divi· followinr works are already sanctioned in sion (Orissa) prOgress at Kbara9Pur Railway Station:- 3571. SHRI HARtHAR SOREN : Wi) (i) Provision of additional platform the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleasedl cover in a length of 1150' Cover- to state: ing over 600 ) ength has already been completed. (a) wbether it is a fact tbat large Dum- ber of posts are lying vacant in Khurda (ii) Provision of additional water taps Road Division., Orissa; on tbe platforms, additional benches on platforms No. Sand 6 (b) if so, the number of vacancies in and flooring of platforms No. 5 different grades; and 6. (c) the steps taken by Sooth Eastern Improvemcot/Renovation works at sta- Railway to fill up those vacancies; aod tions. aTe programmed on year' to year baals. It is, thereforo, not possiblo at (d) tbe detail, thereof? DECEMBER 12, 1985

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (ij) Grant for Jawa- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWA\S (SHRI har Institute of MADHAVRAO SCJNDIA) : (a) to (d) The Mountain eering information is being collected and will be & Winter placed on tbe Table of the Sabba. Sports, Aru. 3,00,000/. Pending railway projects of Andbra Pra- (iii) Grant for orga- desh nisation of sports coach ing '3S72. SHRJ K.S. RAO : Wil1 the camps. 2S,000/. Minister of TRANSPORT be' pleased to Grant for pur- state : (iv) chase of (a) the pending railway t'rojects of sports equip- Andbra Prade~h awaiting clearance with ment of non- d e~ a ils of each project; and expendible nature. 13,8151- (b) the time schedule by which these projects can be cleared and complet.ed? Besides, one sports coach (ree 'of cost THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to the State Government has also been DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI provided at Nehru Yuvat Kendra, Kathua. MADHAVltAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b) There are panding Railway Projects in Diploma in International Marketing Andhra Pradec;h 'awaiting clearance. 3574. DR. A K. PATEL: Win the Financial assistance proYided to J & K Minister of HUNAN RESOURCE DEVE. for promotion of sports LOPMENT be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Quest!on No. 3407 on 3S73. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOl: Will 12 August, 1983 regarding introduction of the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE new diploma courses and state: DEVELOPMENT be ple1sed to state: (a) whether School of Management, (a) the amount of money offered to University of Cochin and Department of Jammu and Kashm:r State for the promo· Commerce, Delhi School of Economics tion of sports during the last three years (Univer~it) of Delhi) have infroduced one closing on 31 December, 1984; and year diploma Course in International (b) the schemes that were covered Marketing, jf not, the reasons tterefor; under such grants from the Union Govern- ment? (b) when did the University Granta Commission accord its sanction to the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE diploma courses and when the teacbing in DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS these diploma courSes actualJy started: AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WEL- FARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : (c) tbe number of students enrolled in (a) and (b) The following Central funds these courses in the current year; were provided for promotion of sports in Jammu and Kashmir durin8 the last 3 (d) if the teachjng has not start ed, financ ial years :- when is it Jik r)y to begin; and Amount in Rupees ...... (e) wbat are the criteria and procedure ---_ _..._-- for admission of students to tbese diploma (i) Indian Institute courses? of Sking and Mountaine erinl, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (}UlmBarl (a DBPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Central Govern. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA. ment Institute). 79,06,000/- TOI) : (8) The Delbi UDiverlity bas intro- AGRAHAYANA 21; 1907 (SAKA) duced a One-Year Diploma Course in (b) n uring th e current financial year, Internationa 1 Marketing fron the year a sum of Rs. 383.91 lakhs has so far 1985·86. been released to the Government of G\lja- rat for maintenance of NationaJ Highway. (b) The proposal of tbe University was approved bv the University Grants Commi- (c) and (d) A statement giving the de- ~ ssion in October 1985. and teaching star tails 0" the roads .proposed by the Govern- ted from December 2, 1985. men t of Gujarot for d(claration as Natio- nal Highways is given beJow. It bas Dot (c) The Course in Delhi University been possible to accede to the request of envisages admission of 20 students; 16 the State Government due to severe resour- have been enrolled upto December 10, ces constraints. 1985.

(d) Does not arise as rar as the Delhi Statement University is concerned.

(el Admission in Delhi University to SI. Name of Road Length No. this course is offered to candida1es who in Kms have a Bachelor"s or Master's Devree in Commerce, Economics, Management. En~i 1. Surat· Dhulia-CaJcutta neering and related disciplines and who vi~-Kadodara In. has secured 55 % marks in the aggregate. Bardo 1i Vyara- Admission is based on merit determined Songad h· Ma b uv a -Sh i- by an entrance test. ra Border. 1] 5 00

Information relating to Cochine Uni- 2. Ahmedabad- Indore· versity is being obtained and will be Bhopal \;a Kuha~ of placed on the Tabl e the House. Kathlal~Debod. 137.40

Grant for maintenance and declaration of 3. Lakbpat-Kandla- National Highway in Gu,arat Ok haPorbandar-Cam- bay-nahej. Bombay- 3575. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Coastal Highway. 1776.00 Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 4. Bewas·Sirohi. Radhan- pur-Kandla. 168.00 (a) Whether Government of Gujarat has been urging the Union Government 5. Vadod

6. Va J53d· N, sjJ,· Pcc nn- (b) if so, the deta i;s th(rtC'f and the HydeT~t~d \ja action t cktn thereon; Chikhj·Van' ca. 103.80

(c) whether tbe State (Jo\'errmtnt has 7. Bhavnagar.Rajkct sent any proposal for declaration of cer· Veraval. 163·00 tain State Highways as National Highways; and 8. Ahm edabad- Viram· gam-Dhrangadh ara- (d) if so, the details thereof and th e Halvad-Malia- action taken by Government tbereon? Kandla. t82.S0

THB MINISTER OF TRANSPORT 9. Kandla.Lakhpat via (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes Sir. Bhuj. 167.00 51 Wrltt.n AnslNr' nBCBMBI!& 12; 1'.5

10. Al'medabad-Kalol- (b) It so, tbe action taken by Govern- M ehsana-Palanpur. 194.80 ment so far on the demand to provide more resenration facility to the peopJe 01 11. Balodara-Mataman 30.S0 Kisbangarh and tbe details in this regard; aDd 12. Ahm edabad-Indore Bhopal via Kuha· (c) if DO action has been taken, the Kathlal-Dabod. 137.40 reasons therefor?

13. Vadodara-Dbulia THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Sh olapur.via Dabboi DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAVS (SHRI N ewang-Saghava. 178 .. 00 MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a' Ye, Sir. 3532.00 (b) The exis ting q~Ot8S allotted to lCisbang8rh Station by various trains arc not being fuJJy utilised. No increase In Scheme to mobilise Baancial resources quotas is therefore, considered justified at by floating bondi/loaDs present.

3576. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (e) Does not arise. PARASHAR : WiJl the Minister of TRANS· PORT be pleased to state : [Translation] (a) whether Railways have decided to EstensioD of Kishsngarb-AJmer Train up mobilise financial resources by Doatina the to 'Pbulera bonds/l08ns to be subscribed by the public; 3S78. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will (b) if so, the details thereof; and the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (c) if not, whether such a scheme would be initiated at an early date? Ca) whether it is a fact that shuttle THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE train b ein. run between Kisba ngarh and DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS

Rnentaion o.ota for Dilrerent Places (c) if so, whetb er it is aho a fact tbat it was extended upto PhuJera Junction, yet from Kisbangarh StatioB (Weltem Rail- it i. still being run upto Kishanprh; way) (d) if 10, tbis action taken by Govern- 3577. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Wi)) ment 50 far ;D the reBard; and tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (e) if Dot, the reasons therefor?

(a) whether Government have received THE MINISTER OF ST A;TE IN THE any memorandum relardiDI increase in DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI reservation quota (or dHrereDt places MADHAVRAO SCINDfA): \a) No, Sir. from Kisbangarh Station OD Western Rail- way; (b) Do. not arile. ~ 3 w,it"n Answe~s Written Answers 5' 4

(c) After extension to Phulera, quest. (b) if so, the details regarding tbe iOD of termination at Kishangarh does not amount being spent for providing pa~sen arise. ger amenities on averale every year; "and Cd) and' (e) Does not arise. (c) tbe number of rest houses alongwith capatity therefor and the number of [English] Yatrinivas under construction at present?

M.V. ODge and l\1.V. Pradeep held up by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Andaman and Nicobar Islands Adminis- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS

(a) whether M.V. Onge and M.V. (b) The amount spent on passenger amenities, year-wise, Year Pradeep were held up by the Andman and during 6th Five Pian is tabulated below:- Nicobar Islands Administration from Sept- ember onwards ; Year Amount spent on passen- (b) if so. the reasons therefor when ger amenities the people are suffering for non-availability ------_ of inter-island passenger ship; and 1980·81 Rs. 494.20 lakhs ) 981-82 Rs. 531.24 lakhs (c) the lo"s incurred by Government as 1982·83 Rs. 501.87 1akhs a result thereof? 1983-84 Rs. 494.50 lakhs THE MINlSTER OF TRANSPORT 1984-85 Rs. 484.44 lakhs (Prov.)

THE MINISTER OE STATE IN THE Aligarb Muslim 151 (jncluding DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND University 63 Irani.. CUlTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- an stu- TOI) : (a) to (c) According to information dents) available, -during the years 1982.. 83 and 1983.. 84, the following Central Universi- Banaras Hindu 9 ties remained closed for the periods indi- University cated against each due to agitation by students.- Hyderabad Nil University Banaras Hindu - 55 days from 30th North-Eastern 5 University August to 23rd October, 1983. Hill University Visva-Bharati Nil lawaharlal Nebru (i) 4 days from University Februa.ry 25 to (e) A Committee, appointed by the 28, 1983; and UGC to review the working of the Central Universit ies in 1983, had recommended (lj) 71 days from that each Central Universify should esta- May 12 to bUsh adequate machinery for the redressal July 21, 1983 of grievances of student and employees. (Including sum- Some of the Central Universities have mer vacation). set up such grievance redressal machinery. Hyderabad 40 days from 24th University November, 1983 [ Translation] to 2nd January, 1984. Inquiry into Leakage of B.Ed. Examina- tion Paper of Delbi Unhenlty Delhi University - The University was not closed during these years. 3582. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: However, the nor- Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE mal teaching pro· DEVELOPMENT be pI eased to refer to grammes in the reply to Starred Question No. 43 dated Departments and 25.7.1985 regarding Jeakage of question Co II eg es rema ined paper of B.Ed. examination and state: disrupted betwe en October 12, 1982 (a) whether tbe Vice.Chancellor, lJelhi ard January 28, UlJiversity b!ls received report of inquiry 1983 due to a into leakage of Paper of B.Ed. Examina- prolonged strik.e tion incident and jf so, the fuB details by tea chers. thereof; and

There were no reports of any of the (b) the action taken by Government Central Universities remaining clo§ed dur- thereon so far'? Ing 1984·85 and 1985·86 so far. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Accordir'g to Information available, DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND the number of students who were expelled CULTURE

mitte<1 hfs report on 3rd August, 1985. Reconstitution of Deihi Library Board According to the Enquiry Officer the Jeakage of test material has occurred due 3584. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- to laxity in procedure and in handling the CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of HU- tes~ material. The Enquiry Officer has, MAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be howe~er, not been able to fix responsibility pleased to state: on any individual for tbe leakage because of the non-cooperation from those who (a) whether Government ale reconsti- have originally mlde th: al legat ion of tu ling the Delhi Lihrary Bo~rd (Governing leakage, during the course of enquiry. Body of Delhi Public Library); and

(b) if ~o, the reasons therefor? The Enquiry Officer has made certain suggestions for improvement of procedures THE MIN1STEK OF STATE IN THE for conducting the test in future years. DEPART!\1ENTS OF EDUCATION AND

(b) These recommendations for impro· CULTURE (~HRIt\lA fI SUSHILA ROH- vement in procedures are yet to te cons i- ATGI): (a) and (b) The matter is receiv- dered by the University. ing Governm ent 's a tfentjon.

[Ellllish] ApPointment of Lady Teachers for Un- iversalisation of Primary Edu\:ation Construction of a Byepass in Nellore Town of Andhra Pradesh 3585.SHRI MAHENDRA SIl"GH : wi:} lh f\1:ini~ter of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE. 3583. SHRI P. PENCHALAIAH: LOPMENT be pleased to state: Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (a) whether Govelnment have introduced a scheme under which 80 per cen t (a) whether there' is any proposa I under consideration of Government to cent ral assistance wi JI be granted to construct a bye-pass Road in Nellore to\\D appoint lady teachers for universal isation of Andhra Pradesh of primary education; and

(b) if so, the amount proposed to be (b) the number of lady telchers for allocated for this; ~nd whcse appointment, centre wi 11 provide assistance during the Seventh Five Year (c) when it is proposed to be co,npl e- Plan under thi" scheme? ted? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT DFPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (SHRI BANS I LAL): (a) to (c) Yes, Sir. Lald A;:;quisition estimate was sanctioned CULTURE SHR1MATI (SUSHILA RO· for Rs. 3.6S lakhs in 1969. But the same HA TOI) (a) Yes, Sir. A ~cheme provid- bad to be cancelled due to the alignment-. ing Central assistance for appointment of becoming unsuitab~e on account of subse- lady teachers in 9 educationally bacKward quent eAcessive building activity along it and other acquisition problems. However, States was started in 1983-84 for the a modified alignment in light of the exten- dura tion of tbe VI plan. ded Municipal limits of the town is under examination. As the propos31 i~ in the (b) The question of continua~ct: of preliminary stale, it is too early to say wben this work will be takeD up and com- this Scheme during the Sevcn:h rlVe plttld. Year Plan is under consideration. oECEMBIl 12. 1985

[Translation] whether it is a fact that tbe MetrQ Railway PJan at Calcutta bas Assistance for Appointmerat of Lady suffered a set back as the proposal to sot Teachers in Sta tes a captive generating capacity is lyina uncleared by Government; 3586. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN : SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: (b) whether dependellc~ of tbe exis. ting sources at Calcutta will be adequate Will the Minister of HUMAN RESO- for this pioneering project for the Railways; URCES DEVELOPMENT be pleased to and state:

(a) whether Central Government have (c) when this is going to be cleared? introduced a scheme to give central assistance to States for appointing lady THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE teachers for universali58tion of primary DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (&HRI education; MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. There is no proposal to set up a captive (b) jf so, the amount of ass istance generation plant. likely to be provided; and the ratio in which this assistance is proposed to be (b) Yes, Sir. State Government of provided to various States ; and West Bengal have confirmed that tbey would meet the po9ter requirements of (c) the amount to be provided to Calcutta Metro. Madbya Pradesh during Seventh PJan period under this scheme? (c) Docs not arise in view of reply to part (a) of the question. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO. Enrolment aDd Drop Out Rates HATGl): (a) to (c) A Scheme of 80 % Central assistance to nine educationalJy 3S88. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: backward States, namely ; Andhra Pra- Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOUR· desh, Assam, Bihar, Jammu & Kashmir, CE DEVELOPMENT be pJeased to Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar state: Pradesh and West Bengal for appointment of women teachers in primary schools

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1HE [English) DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Set Back to Metro Railway Plan Due CULTURE (SHRIMAn SUSHIlA RO- to Inadequate Services HATGJ) : (a) and (b) A 'tatem eDt is given below. The onrolment filures for 3587. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: 1984-8S are Dot yet available and drop- Will tbe Minister of fRANSPORT be out lilures are available only for J 979·80 plcaaod to state : wbich are shown in the statement. AORAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA\ Written Answers 62

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3589. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Sports Stadl_1n fo.. JbunJlriiDu Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FA· MILY WELFARE be pleased· to state: 3591. SHRI MOHD. AVUB KHAN : Will tbe Minister of HUMAN RBSOURCS (a) whether it is a fact that Viz•• ia DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : fae ina Cancer threat fron refinery due to emission of benzopyiDes in dangerous (a) whether Government proPOIe td quantities and if RO, corrective steps taken/ provide financial assistaDce for CODltrueJ propos ed ; and tiOD ofa new stadium in Jhunjhunu district to promote sports. and (b) whether any standards have been laid down for emission of benzopyrines (b) if 10, details thereof? and whether tbese standards are being implemented vigorously and jf so, results THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB there of ? DEPARTMBNTS OF YOUTH AFPAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFARB THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE aDd (b) A proposal for construction of • (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) &. (b) stadium at lhunjhuDU bas been retelved The information. is being collected and from the Government of Rajasthan and a will be laid on the Table of the Sabba in grant of Rs. S lakhs is proposed to be due course. 'I.Dctionod for it.

ReeoDStftution· of Zonl RaIlway Vie ... [&,lllh] Cousultative Committee. S ••ftlq of Central Water Commil8loD 3590. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH OIlce, Barla to Ralpar Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 3592. SHar RADHAKANTA DlqAL: Will the Minister of WATER RESOUR. (a) since wben the Zonal Railway CES be pleased to atate : Users Consultative Committ ees bave Dot been reconstituted; (a) whether there is a move to shift the Central Water Commission's Offiee, (b) are tbese Zonal Railway Users' BurJa (Orissa) to Raipur in Madhya Pradesh; Consultative Committees beinl reconstituted; and (b) whether tbere bave been II'OWiD,

(c) if 10, from when? diacontentment amonl the people of Orilld and the) are opposina it ; and THE MiNISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHR.I (c) if 80, reaction of Government MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): Ca> The Zo- thereto? oal Railway Users' Consultative Commi. ttees have Dot been conltituted since 1912. THE MINISTER OF WATER R.E~U_J RCES (SHRI B. SHANI{ARANAND): (a); (b) and (c) Yea, Slr.·TheIe Commltt .. · No, Sir. are in the procell of reconstitution from l.l.1986. (b) and (c) Do DOt 8l'ilO. - Wrltt~n An.s~e,.s 16

[ T,allslatlon] THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Amount Allocated and Spent on National (SHRl BANSI LAL): (a) Statement in- Highways dicatint the amonnt allotted and spent by each State/U.T. separately on develop- 3593. SHRI M.L. jHIKRAM: Will ment and maintenace of National Highways the Minister of TRA:\iSPORT be pleased durinl 1984·85 is liven below. to state:

(a) the" total amount allocated for (b) During 1985·86 an amount of Rs. 1200.00 lakhs has been allocated for the National Highways in 1984·85 and the development of National Highway NOl. state-wise break.up of tbe amount spent 3,6,7,12,25,26,27 and 43 passing throup therefor; and Madhya Pradesh. In addidon, an amount (b) the amount allocated' for National of Rs. 425.89 laths has also so far been Highways of Madhya Pradesh in 1985-86 re Jeaseed for the Ma int enance of these Indicating names of these highways? National Highways.

Statement

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81. Name of Sta tel Development of Maintenence of No. U.T. National National Highwa). Highways

Final Expendi. Final Expendi- allot· ture allot- ture ment ment

1. Andhra Prad eah 1286.54 1318.85 617.86 654.32

2. Arunacbal Pradesh 50.00 43.82 6.60 11.06

3. Assam 853.87 851.84 321.43 342.04

4. Bihar 1130.60 1054.67 572.58 514.13

s. Delhi 200.00 184.68 51.92 89.80 6. Goa 268.85 268.85 55.69 52.18 v. Gujarat 1104.31 1168.82 621.75 672.03

8. Haryana 612,48 81l.32 182.53 178.76

9. Himachal Pradesh 315.80 315.81 118.87 138.65

10. Jammu & Kubmir 380.00 378.33 52.26 51.21

11. KarDataka 1149.32 1111.08 393.77 415.29

12. Keral. 759.88 765.95 193 27 297.49

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14. Maharasbtra 1104.18 1095.63 664.78 788.65

15. Manipur 150.00 158.0S 45.85 50.23

16. Mcabalaya 300.00 466.24 161.79 Not reported

17. Na gal and 33.00 32.25 1.14 1.13

18. Orissa 634.52 635.25 358.03 359.65

19. Pondicberry 25.00 9.57 4.50 4.S0

20. Punjab 701.12 706.86 194.11 249.39

21. Rajasthan 728.59 727.28 476.14 476.27

22. Tamil Nadu 860.61 860.86 358.35 355.94

23. Uttar Pradesh 1643.89 1640.46 913.05 962.11

24. West Bengal 600.71 585.41 387.32 584.00

2S. B.R.D.B. 1400.00 1140.24 235.00 218.86 ------,__._._..._,_ TOTAL: 17406.48 17243.80 7476.77--- 7959.10

their inability to pay the ~ompensation as Pending Cases or ~Iotor Accident Claims decided by these Adalats ? iD Delhi

3594. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT DR. A.K.. PATEL: (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Delhi Adminis- tration have intimated that there are 6321 Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be cases pending before the concerned tribu- pJeased to state: nals in Delhi. The break up is as uDder:- One year 3244 (a) the number of motor accident claims case~ in Delhi which are pending for Two year 2624 finalisation with the concerned tribunal:; for tbe last one year; two years and three Three year ...... 453 years respectively; (b) In order to ensure quick settlement (b) the measures proposed for tbe of compensation-claim cases, the Motor speed, settlement of tbose cale on humani- Accident Claims Tribunals have been tarian :onsideratjons towards the persons empowered under Section 110·C or be di5abled in the accidents and tbe widows of Motor Vebicles Act. 1939, to follow Iuit. the deceased persoDs ; and able summary procedure lor inquiry. Fur- ther, throuab the Motot Vehicles (AmcDdr. (c) the measures Government propose meot) Act, 1982, new provisions have been- to take in Celsel involving road accidents i.naerted providin. (or campeDlation OD DO· in Delhi where judlcmeot was given by tbe fault liability principle, where the claimant !.,ok Adalats bat pareios hke 0 rc oxprcus il Dot required to prove av weODlfui &Cr, IJ. , • •• Written Answers AGltAHAYANA 21.1907 (SAKAl Writt~fl A,"1.Hr~rs 14

neglect or default of the owner of the vehi- (b) the technical details of project cons. cle or of any other person and in which tructed or under construction in Maharash.. case the Tribunal ;s r~quired to finalise the tra for utilisation of Majira waters and its cases on expeditious basis. The State tributories, if so whether this project was Governments/Union Territory Administra- given clearance by the Union Government; tions have also been advised to lay down and suitable procedure under Section l11-A of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1939, designed to (c) if so, the effect of these projects on ensure quick settlement of ca3es. the stability of Nizamsagar project in (c) There had been no cases where the Andhra Pradesh? DTe expressed their inability to pay the compensation as decided ·by Lok Adalat. lHE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES (SHRI B, SHANKARA- [English] NAND) : (a) to (c) The Karanja Project estimated to cost Rs. 60 crores has been Karanja River Project received in the C. w.e. from the Karnataka Government in August 1983 and is under 3595. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will f technical examination in consultation with the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be the State Authorities. However, the Plan pleased to state: Docum ent subm itt ed by the Stat e Govern- (a) whether it is a fact that Karanja ment indicates that they have tnken up tbe project constructed on Karanja river, a project works. tributory of Karanja, in Karnataka State had the cl earance of Union Government ; The required details are as under :-

Estimated Gross Irrigation Status of S.No. Name of Project cost storages potential approval Rs. in million in crores cubic Th. Ha. metres

.------.~- ._--- A. Completed Projects 1. Tiru 1.61 23.325 3.29 Unapproved

2. Karad Khed 1.11 12.35 2.64 -do-

3. Manar Stage-I & II 6.64 125.44 24.47 Approved

4. Tirna 0.81 11.33 2.18 -do- s. Tawarja 4.73 20.53 4.04 Unapproved

6. Ghirni 1.02 25.10 2.S3 Approved

B. P~'\)j!C~S take.l up by lhe State for construction.

1. Lendi* 39.12 207.56 19.58 Unapproved 2. Lower Tirna* 40.46 133.56 20.26 Approved

• Major Proje~ls. {The lest are me~ium projects) Tae Nll.a Uii&ar P.:oJect 10 A'ldtlra Pradesh i, ilJ t ,\,1' ;.;teJ by th~ abvv~ projects. 7, Writt6n A"sw.,s DEC£M.uI:.K IZj~1~85 W,illtn JIISW" ,&

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3. Rri 2.S3 8.94 1.88 Approved

4. Devarjan 1.36 13 .. 32 1.81 -do-

5. Sakoi 3.04 12.69 2.06 Unapproved

6. Raigohan 3.51 12.70 3.61 -do-

7. MasaJga 2.90 14.68 2.43 -do-

8. Upper Manar 23.06 108.00 13.91 -do-

[Trails/arion] (c) and (d) No such proposal is under Govemmentls consideration. However the Branch of Indira Gandhi open University location of study centres of tbe University at Nalanda (B ihar) has to be determined after the University has enrolled students. 3596. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE [English] DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Survey of Pesticide Poisoning Cases in (a) whether it is a fact tha t the branches India of Indira Gandhi Open University will be set up in various States ; 3597. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL· (b) whether it is a fact that there has FARE be pleased to stat e : heen a long standing demand to set up a Central University in Bihar ; (a) whether Government have conduc· ted any survey regarding the number of whether Government propose (c) if so, pesticide poisoning cases in the country, to set up a branch of Indira Gandhi Uni- State-wise; versity In Nalanda (Bihar) ; and

(d) if so, the da tails thereof? (b) if so, the details regarding the cases registered State-wise; and THE MINI5fER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OP EDUCATION AND (c) whether Government have also CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA. made any assessment regarditlg its use in L TOI): (a) The Indira Gandhi Nati::>nal India? Open University Act does not envisage tbe THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE establ ishment of branches of the Un!versity DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE in various Sta t es. However th e a ct provides (SHRl S. KR.ISHNA KUMAR): (a) and that tbe University wi)} set up study cen- (b) No such survey bas been carried out in tres for the purpose of adversing, counseU- so far as implementation of Prevention of in3 or rendering any other assistance Food AduJteration Act is concerned. required by the students, and regional centres for the purpose of co-ordinatinl (c) According to the Ministry of Agri. and supervising the work of study centres .. cu]ture which administers the Insecticides (b) Requests (or establishment of nfW Act, 1968 and which bas assessed the use Central Universities, or for converting on of iosecticides, the State Governme nts ba\e exisling state universit) into a Central been empowered under Section 26 of the Univer.\jty. arc received from time to time Act -to ensure that cases of inseticide (rom various Itatea Includin& Bibar. poiaooiDl are reported to the GOVCJnmeDti. 7' ';rltt~n Anlw", AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

[Tr",,,,I,,,tlon ] (a) whether attention 0' Government has been drawn to th e news it em "Char- Surprise Cbecks against Ticketless Travel tered Buses have come to stayU appearing in the Hindustan Times dated 26-9 .. 1985 3598. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: wherein a detail ed rep0rt has been made Wfll the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- of the illegal activitie<; of th e chartered ted'to state: buses and organiser~ of the racket of proli- feration at the expense of public as weH a~ (a) th'e number of times surprise checks Government revenues; and were carried out on Zonal Railways during the last two years against ticketless travel (b) if so, what steps have been taken a]ongwith tbe names of the lines on which to ensure their complete elimination? these checks were conducted; THE MINISTER (b) the number of persons caught tra- OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, 5iir. velling without ticket or with improper tickets and the amount realised from them aloDlwitb the numb~r of persons impri- (b) These buses are engaged by group soned ·out of them; of commuters and operate under contract carrja~ e permits in terms of Sect ion 51 of (c) the number of pol ice personnel the Mot0r Vehicles Act, 1939. Delhi involved out of those caught, the fine rea- Administration have reported that the lised from them and how many of them Enforcement Staff of the Directorate of were sent to jail ; and Transport carry out checks daily on diffe- rer.t routes and whenever instances of (d) whether the authorities concerned violation of the permit conditions have were informed in this relard ? come to the notice, tbe operator is prosecuted. During last six months, there had THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE been 316 prosecutions. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCIN DIA): (a) Statistics Reconstruction of Bridges on National reaarding surprise checks are not readily Highways in Guntur and Prokoram Dis- available. However, during the years 1983-84 and 1984-85, 4.94 lakhs checks, trict s of Andbra Pr adesb including surprise checks were conducted on almost all tbe sections of the Indian Rai]- 3600. SHRI C. SAMBU: WiJ1 the ways. Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (b) 82.82 lakbs persons were apprehended travelling without ticket or with impro. (a) GOlJernment are aware that the life p~r tickets and a sum of Rs. 16_38 .12 lakhs span of bridges on the National Hjghways was realised from lhem as railway dues. in Guntur and Prokoram Districts of Out of them 2.61 lakhs persons were Andhra Pradesh has expired and need imprisoned. reconstruction ;

(cl Separate statistics of Police person- (b) if so, the total number of br idges nel detected travelling without tickets are which need such reconstruction in Guntur not being mainta in ed. and Prokoram Distr icts ; and

(d) Does not arise. (c) the steps proposed to be taken to reconstruct such bridges durin, Seventh [Englllh] Plan? PI)'''I 01 Chartered Bases THE MINISTER of TRANSPORT 3599. SHlU KAMLA PRASAD (SHRI BANS I LAL): (a) and (b) There SINOH: Will tbe Minister of TRANS- arc 8 weak and Dafrow bridleS which pORT be pleased to state: require reconstruction. 79 Writ"" A nsw~rs DECEMBER. 12, 1985 Wrllt." Answers 80

(c) Estimaties (or conducting survey, in- sed to state wbether Government propose vestigation and proj eet preparation for re- to install strong boxes to enable the construction of 6 bridges have a1ready been passengers to deposit their valuables under sanction ed. The qu estion of reconstruction insurance cover to reduce train robberies? of these bridgeC\ during the Seventh Plan or subsequently win tt.epend O!l the availability THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of funds and inter-se priority of such works DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI on all India basis. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): No, Sir.

rTranslation] Censorship of Film. Indira Gandhi Canal Multi-Purpose Project 3604. PROF. K.V. Thomas: WiU the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- 3602 PROF. NJRMALA KUMAR I LOPMENT be pleased to state: SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be pleased to state: (a) tbe guidel ines given for the censorship of films ; (a) whether In'dira Gandhi Canalis multi-purpose project which will pave the (b) whether the imported films are way for the progress of Rajasthan: treated separately from the Indian films;

(b) whether- in view of its importance (c) whether a senior officer of the grade the Union Goverr.ment propose to con~ider of Jt. Chairman would be posted in Madras making it a national project; and or Cochin to dispose of all cases of censorship not involving policy; and (c) if not, whether Rajasthan, which is always faced with serious famine, will be (d) whether the films imported would able to complete this big project from out be censored at the port of entry ? of its own res.Jurce~ ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF WATER DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND RESOlJRCES (SHRI B. SHANKARA. CULTURE SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA. NAND): (a} to (c) The Indira Gandhi TGI): (a) and (b) All films including Canal is an irrigation project. In addition, import ed films presented for certification it would provide wat er for drinking and are examined by tbe Central Board of Fiim industrial purposes. \Vater being a State Certification in acCordance with the prov- subject funds for the execution of irrigation sions of the Cinematograph Act 1952 aod projects are to be provided by the States in the guideJines issued thereunder. A copy their Annual Pl[_ns. The Central assistance of these guidelines is placed on the Table is normally provid ed in the form of block of the House. [Placed in Library. See loans/grants for the State Plan as a wbole No. LT 1942/SS] and not for individual projects. The Cen- traJ Government is however anxious that (c) No. Sir. the Indira Gandhi Canal Project should be completed early and had therefore given (d) There is no such proposal at additional Centra} assistance of Rs. 40 present. crores during the last three years of the Vlth Plan. Target. for Irrigation Potential.

3605. DR. PHULRENV aURA: Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be Installation of Strong Boxes to Reduce pleased to state : Train Robberies

3603, SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: (8) whether targets were fixed for crea- Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- tina additional irriaation poteutiall Ip AGRABAYANA 21. 1901 (SAKA) Written ~n'wers 82 different States/Union Territories during (c) the targets fixed for the Seventh tbe Sixth Plan period ; Plan? THE MINISTER OF WATER (b) if so, tb e details of the tarlets and RESOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR A- the actual achievements in different Statesl NAND):

Statement

('000 Ha.)

SI. Name of tbe State' Tar,et for Anticipeted Target for No. VI Plan Achievem en t VII Plan 1980·85 during VI 1985·90 Plan (1980·85)

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 870 686.6 933 2. Assam 226 143.0 260 3. Bihar 1680 1514 1455 4. Oujarat 453 477 547 5. HaryaDa 298 290 369 6. Himachal Pradesh 28 26 20 7. Jammu & Kashmir 65 S6 67 8. Karnataka 715 308.4 464 9. Kerala 303 186 280 10. Madhya Pradesb 1033 802 1080 11. Maharashtra 8SS 830 745 12. Manipur 61 498 39.5 1 3; MegbaJaya 15 10.8 14 14. Nagaland 10 8.S 12 1 s. Orissa 960 537 706 16. Punjab 410 413 404 17. Rajasthan 482 452 570 18. Sikkim 8 5.1 8 19. Tamilnadu 233 128.4 133 20. Tripura 13 19.6 35 21. Uttar Pradesh 4550 3934 4237 22. Weat Benaal 687 343 470

TOTAL STAreS 13675 11220.2 12848.5 UNION TSRRITORIBS 66 43 3'

GRAND TOTAL 13741 I J 263.2 12881.5 83 W,itten Answers DECEMBER. 12. 1985 Written Answers 84

Dharamanagar-Kumarghat Rail Link (b) if so, tbe steps taken to implement tbe above proposal; and 3606. SHRI AJOY BJSWAS : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (c) the time by which the above places are expected to be connected by Vayudoot (a) the original target date of comple- Service? tion of the Railway line from Dharma- nagar to Kumarghat; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the revised target date of comple- DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. tion of the said project; (b) and (c) Do not arise. (c) the original and revised e~timat e of the project Bnd Dredging at Corhin Port (d) the reasons for delay in completion of the proj ect in time; 3608. SHRI T. BASHEER Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pJeased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state : DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Original (a) whether attention of Government target date for completion of the railway has been drawn to the fact tbat Cochin line from Dharmanagar to Kumarghat was ship channel is bei!1g fast filled up with 1985. mud, sand and sl it;

(b) The section from Dharmanagar to (b) whether there are enough dredgers PeoartaJ is expected to be opened to tra- at Cochin Port; ffic by m;d 1986. CompletIon of the rema,ning portion will depend on avallabi- (c) whether Dredging Corporation of lity of funds in the coming years. India failed to complete the work assi[,ned to them; and (c) the original estimated cost was Rs. 9.67 crures and the revised cost is Rs. (d) if so, what other steps are being 29.59 cro~es. taken to save the ships from being diverted to other ports? (d) Conlp\etion of the project has been dalayed mainly due to paucity of funds. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Acute shortage of both technical and non- (SHRI BA NSI LAL) = (a) Siltation is a techn:cal staff alld the law and order pro- natural phenomenon in artificially develop- blems in the r eighbouring States and conse- ed chann else quent difficulti ~s in movement ,of critical items of construction materials had a]so (b) The· Port's dredging resources are hampered the progress of construction in supplemented by the Dredging Corporation the past. of India and tb e latt er have been deploying their dredgers to clear the silf2ficn in tt.e Bbubanes,,'ar·Jharsuguda·Jaipor and Bhu- Port every year accordirg to a ~chedule baneswar·Jeypore-Visakbapatnam link by drawn up. VSJ'udoot SeTyice (c) Sir. 3607. SHRI NlTYANANOt\ MISRA. ~ No. Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pJeased to state: (d) The Government have already received a proposal from the Cocbin Port (a) whether Government have a pro- to acquire a new arab hopper dredger for po \a I to connect Bhubaneswar-Jharsuguda- replacing their old dredger 'Lady WjJJjq- Jaipur, Bhuwaneswar.. Jeypore-Viaakhapata- don #. Th is wi 11 su ppJcmen t th e d r edliD, pam by Vayudoot Service. "-pacit1. 8S . "vritlE.n AnsWe~S AGRAHAYANA 21,.1909 (SAKA) Wlilt~n Answ~rs 86

IntroducJion of special Trains between (a) whether associating voJunta ry ora New Delhi and Guwhati n isations is necessary for achieving the targets of Family Plann·jog by the year 3609, SHRI MANIK REDDY: 2000; and DR. G. VIJAYARAMA RAO:

(b) if SO, steps initiated by Government Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be in this direction. pleased to state :

(a) wh eth er it is a fact that only two THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE trains are now connecting New Delhi and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Guwhat i serving several states and ar eas (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) Yes, which are always overcrowded; Sir.

(b) The Government of India has al- (b) whether it is a fact that these ready been providing financial assistance trains al:)o serve sensitive areas in the to Voluntary OrlZanisations engaged in the Northeast and cover border states; Family Welfare Programme, either directly or through the State Goveanments, for (c) whether teaffic load on these trains running specified schemes relating to moti- has been determined and compared with vation and provision of services as well as other important trains of ~1etro areas; for maintaining training faci1itie~. Recen- (d) if so, the details thereof and corre- tlv, a National Conference of Voluntary ctive steps Llk ("n, proposed to ease traffic Organisations engaged not only in Health to Guwha tl and other enroute stations and and Family Welfare activities but also in areas incJuding Sikkim; other social, welfare and developmental activities was beld on 4th September 1985. (e) ",hether special trains are proposed In consultation with the vari()us concerned to be introd uced to case heavy load of Ministries/Departments and taking into traffic speciaI1y of anned forces; and consideration the deliberations of tbe Con- ference, various initiatives have been (f) whether Government also propose taken to step up voluntary action in other to speed up Assam Mail and Tinsukia socio.. economic fields with the Family Wel- MaiJ? fare Programme ..

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Goompas (l\-Ionasteries) in 8ikkim DEPARfl\1ENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b) 3611. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI: Yes, Sir. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOUR- (c) to (e) In order to provide more CE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: accommodation for passengers between (a) whether Government are aware the North East region and Delhi, the load that there are very old Goompas (Monas. of 155i156 flllsukia. Mail has been in .. teries) in Sikkim which tr easure aneient creased. Further, a leave Express of manuscripts on Buddhism; Military perpsonnel is now being run twice a month from 1.10.1985 between Gauwhati (b) if so how many such Goompa s are and New Delhi/Jammu Tawi. there and what steps Government have taKen \0 \)tt,etv t \ntm; an~ (.{) 1\\ett. \~ \l~ ~"c;)~t. \c;) ~~t.t.~ \\\) \\\t.~t. trains at Present. (c) if not, whether Government pro- Voluntary organisations for achieviog pos e to find out such Goompas'l targets of family planning THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB 3610. SHRI S.M. BHATTAM : Will DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND tb~ Minister of IIEt\LTH AND FAMILY CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA. ROH. W6LFAlB bo please\! to stato : ATOI) : (a) Y cat Sir. 8., Writtln A nswe" DBCEMDE. 12, 198~

(b) Sixty seven such monasteries have (b) if so, the decision takeD thereon? ,been identified so far. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT The monasteries are under the GoverD-

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU.. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANANO) : (a) DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and (b) Yes, Sir. The proposal seeks abo- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No Sir. lition of the Tungabhadra Board on the Fresh starts have, however, to be kept to ground that its main function of construc- the minimum in view of constraint of tion of the common portion of the project resources. bas been completed and that maintenance of the canals on the right bank as well as (b) Does not arise. the dam ca, be done by tbe State Govern- ment. (English]

(c) The de:iciencie') in the functioning Vayudoot Services of the Board in accordance with its objec. tives and remedial measures to make it 3615. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHA- more effective are under identification. VAN : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : An All India, Port Services (a) whether the Vayudoot services operating in different parts of tbe country 3613. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GA· are beiDa run profi,tabJy; and DAKH PATJL : Will the Minister of , ~RANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof? Ca) whether National Shipping Board THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bas sUlgeated creation of an All India DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION Port-Sorvi cos; an d (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLBR): (a) aDd (b) 89 Wrltt,n Answirs AGRAH:AYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

Vayudoot is at present operating to 33 (iii) Augmenting traffic facilities routes on which, during. the period April wherever possib'e. to" October 1985 only Delhi·Ludhiana- Delhi, Delhi-Dehradun-Delhi and Delhi... (d) No, Sir. Cbandigarh.Kulu gave an estimated p);'ofit of R s. 1.24 lakhs, 7.36 lakhs and 3.77 [Trans lation] lakhs respective 1y. Rampur-Kathgodam Rail Line North East Frontier Railways incurring 3617. SHRI HARISH RAWA1': Will loss the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased 3616. SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEK- to state: HRA: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (a) the date of completing the survey ·be pleased to state : work of Rampur-Kathgodam Railway lin t; and (8) whether North East Fronti er Rail- ways are incurrif'g loss; (b) whether the said wOlk is expected (b) if so, the amount thereof for the to be completed during the Seventh Five last three years. Year Plan?

(c) the details of the reasons therefor, THE MINISTER OF STA1E IN THE year·wjs~ and action tak en to bring the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Joss to the minimum; and ML\DHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) May 1975. (dl whether North Frontier Railways Transport Depar~ment Policy is against (b) ltr completion ·will depend on avai- the Commercial Department which is the lability of resources) on year basis, during earning Department on rndian Railway? the Seventh Five Year Plan. [ english] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Shifting to New Civil Terminal Building MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. of Leh Airport (b) The amount of loss for the last three years was a under :- 3618. SHRI P. NAMGYAL: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be p1eased 1982-83 Rs. 62.88 crores to state:

1983·84 Rs. 86.61 crores (a) whether it i5 a fact that Leh Air- port Civil Terminal building has been 1984.85 Rs. 115.23 croces completed; (c) No:theast Frontier Railway serves (b) wheth"er it i~ also a fact that pass- tho sensitive Fronti er areas of strategic engers had to face areat hardsh!p at the iloportance and unaconomic branch lines present terminal building (Nissan Hut) involving very high operationll cost. Steps in view 'of inadequate space, furniture and 'takon to brin~ tbe loss to the minimum heating arrangement etc. because of early are :- arrival of aircraft and arctic cold condition; and 0) Strict control over expenditure (c) if so,. th~ reasons for not shifting (ii) Intensive marketing drives incJu- to tbe new air terminal building and non ding opening of inland container provision of necessary facilities and com· depot to attract more tea traffic forts for tho· passen&ers as provided under for export, and the rulll! yi IV,.illen AnSW~r8 Written Answer 8 9~

THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN TIlE Foreign Excbange Earned by RITES D£PARTMFNT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI JAGDISH TYlLER): (a) Civil 3620. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA works of the terminal building have been REDDY : Will the Min ister of TRANS· completed, but water and electricity have PORT be pleased to state: )et to be provided. (8) whether Rail India Technical & Econpmic Services have eatned a gross (b) Yes, Sir. Passengers are facing profit of Rs. 6 crores this year; hardship due to inadequare space in the Nissan Huts. Water, electricity, heating (b) details of the foreign exchange arrangements and furniture are, however, earned by RITES dur ing t he period coun- availabl e in these huts. try-wis e : and

(cl Passenger handling wili be shifted (c) details of the on-going contracts to the D';W terminal building after water being executed by RITES, and total value and el ectricity have been provided there. thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE- IN THE Narmada Canal Project in Rajasthan DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3619. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) The gross JAIN: Win tbe Minister of WATER RE- profit earned by RITES for the year 1984- SOURCES be pleased to state: 85 before depreciation was Rs. 608 lakhs.

(a) wheth~r work on N.lrmada Canal (b) As per the 1984-85 aupited report Project in Rajasthan has been started and of tbe company, the foreign exchange the time by which the Project is likely to earned by RITES in their operations in be completed; the area of land in acres, twelve countIies is Rs. 1631 Jakhs. to be irrigated from thIS cd.nal indicating the areas in which the land wi II be irriga- (c) The details of the on-going cont- ted therefrom ; racts being executed by RITES are shown in the statement given be1ow. The total (b) the total expenditure proposed to value of these contracts is Rs. 7246 be incurred OD this project; and lakhs.

(c) the provisions made in the Seventh Statement Five Year Plan for this project? Country THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU. RCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): 1. ALGERIA (a) to (c) Some works on the. Narmada Canal Project has been :'}tarted by Raja- (j) Coost. Supervision of New Rly. sthan Government and an expenditure of Line: Ain Touta.M'Sila. Rs. 1.93 crores incurred upto March, 1985. It is contemplated to complete tbe (ij) Survey of Bouira·Sour-EI Ghoz- project in a period of about 8 years. The lane Railway Line . proJect envisages irrigation to an area of about 7 J ,00 il hectares in Banner aod (iii) Engg. studies for El Khroub- Jalore districts. According to the Project Bouchegouf Ra i1 Link. Report th e estimated cost is Rs. 347.72 crores. The Workina Group of the Plano- 2. ETHIOPIA iDa Commission bas recommended an out- laJ of Rs. SO cror. durins tha Seveoth Tecbno-Econom ic f easibi lity Iludy ~ ~aD. frOID Addis Ababa to AI.ab. AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Wrltt,.'z Answers 94

3. GHANA India have placed orders for three large fully containerised cellular ~hjps; . Consultancy services for rehabiJitation & jmprovement of performance of (b) if so, t}1e cost of these ships with Ghana Railways. de1 ails of capacity and life guarantee of each ship separately; 4. MOZAMBIQUE (c) the name of the country/countries Management & Professional Serviees from wh ere t'h e~e 8h ips are purchased and to Mozambique Railways. amount of foreign exchange involved ;

~. SRI '.ANKA (d) tbe extent to which these ships wil1 replace old and outdated ~hjJ)S from Consultancy Services for improvement the SbjppinJ! Corporation C'( India fleet Ra ilway Workshops. and improve the cargo working;

(t) whether one of tbe~e ships i~ pro- 6. Z\MBIA posed to be earmarked for the ports in Providing technical and professional Andhr~ Pradesh ; and services to Zambia RailwaYs. (f) jf so, th~ details thereof and if not, 7. IRAQ reasons therefor?

0) General Engg. & Resident Engi. THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT neering Survey. (SH~I BANSI 1 AI ) : (a) A propo~al to I.lc('luire ~jx cellular container ships . by (H) Providing Desj~n & General Engg. Shippirg- Corporation of India has been Support Services. received by Government.

(iii) Providing Integrated Technical & (h) & (c) Ac; per the proposal of Shipp- Economic Services. ing Corpora t ;on of India, each vessel would h~ve a capacity of about 1500 8. ZIMBABWE TEUs and a life of about twenty years. No decision ha~ been taken hy Govern- (i) Assistance in maintenance and ment on the proposal of SCI. Operation of National Railways of Zimbabwe (1st Contract) (d) The cellular container ships pro- (ii) -do- (2nd Contract) posed to be acquired by Shipping Corpora- (iii) -do- (3rd Contract) tion of India wodld essentially replace conventional ships which are being pbased 9. JORDAN out due to changing trade pattern. The Providing Technical & Supervisory development of large sized, fully cellular Support services.. fuel efficient container ~hjps has beeome commercially inevitable to match foreign Three Containerised Cellular Ships competition, both in terms of freight leveJs Ordered by Shipping Corporation of India and service.

3621. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will (e) & (f) The con tainer vessels are to tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased be deployed on eommerchl considerations to state: and it not proposed to fl!"armark these vess- (a) whether Shippin, Corporation of el~ port-wise. 9 S W,ltt,n Ahsw~rs DECEMBER 12, 1985

Diversiftcation of National Highway THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Passing Through the Centre of Nag.. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI pur City MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (c) To serve hot/tasty food to passengers in bygi- 3622. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK : Will enic conditions, a revised menu in . dispo- the Minist er of TRAN gPORT be pleased sable aluminium casseroles has been intro- to state: duced in some 'selected Mail/Express trains. An analysis of the opinion poll cunducted (a) whether Government are aware of to ascertain the reaction of tbe traveJlin. the National Highway which is passing public s~ows that the new service has through tbe centre of the Na~pur city in been appreciated by an overwhelmiol Mabarashtra wherein hundreds of people majority. are killed every year due to accidents;

(b) whether Governnlent propose to Menta) Hospitals Duriag Sevtuth Plan divert the National Highway from the centre of the Nagpur city to outside by 3624. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT. constructing a ring road ; NAIR: Will tbe Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to (c) if so, when such a outer ring road state : is proposed to be constructed; and (a). -, whether Government propose to (d) if not, the reason therefor? open some more Mental Hospitals during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT- (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. How- (b) jf so, the details in this regard? ever no separate statistics is maintainrd for aceidents on National Highways. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (b) to (d) Maharashrra Government (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and has started the construction of ring road (b) Government does not have any pro. onnd Nagpur city and sent a proposal posal at pre~ent to open more Mental ar .. d b for sharing the cost of tl;llS rIng roa et- Hospitals during the Seventh Five Year en the Central Government, State Plan. we •...... h . G vernment and )oca1 authontles. .ICC DI- ~ feasibility and other details for this Vayudoo t Service LinklDg Mange- ca . .. I proposal are under examlnatJon In consu .. lore and Calit'8 t tation with the State Government. 3625. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Packet Meals Served in Trains Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 3623. SHRI A.l.V.B. MAHESWARA (a) whether Government would consider RAO : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT starting a Vayudoot service linking Mania- be pleased to state: lore and Calicut which bas got a private (a) whether be is aware tbat tbe packet air-strip at Cheleri, Calicut as an iD- meals (newly introduced which are supp- t,erim arrangement; and lied by the dining car in tbe trains are (b) if so, the details thereof ? in a poor quality and also very cold; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether he is also aware ihat ~he DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION asseng at e facing much difficulty in ers (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b) iaking the meals in which al) items were Vayudoot bas plans to airlink MaDplore mixed in one packet; and and Calicut OD route BombayooMaDplore- (c) if so, what remedial steps are Calicut.. Mansa] ore-Bombay durinl the propose4 to be takeD in the above caSe? year 1986 subject to availability of io- AORAHAYANA 1907 (S~KA) Written A.n~wers 98 97 Written ~lI8w'rs 11. frastructure and economic viabiUty of CODversion of Ahmedabad-Delhi Rail Line operations.

Loss Suffered by National Book 3627. SHRI D.P. JADEJA : Win tbe Trust Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether a survey was conducted 3626. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : on the conversion of Ahmedabad-Delhi Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOUR- Metre gauge to Broad Gauge in 1970·71

CE DBVELOPMENT be pleased to state: I (b) what is the prepent status of (a) the objective with which the th is proposa 1; 'Nationa 1 Book Trust' was set up and whether It has failed to achieve its objec. (c) when will this· critical work be tives ; taken up ; and

(b) the total amount invested in it so far and for how many }e8 rs tbis Trust is (d) what are tbe reasons for ignoring incurring Joss ; and this requirement?

(c) the amount of total loss suffered THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by this Trust during last 3 years and the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI reasons therefor? MADRA VRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir in 1973-74. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (b) to (d) This conversion project CULTURE (SHRtMATI SUSHI LA RO .. (MG to BG) has not been cleared by tbe HATGI): (a) National Book Trust. India Planning Commission. Further action will was set up with the objective of promo- be taken after it is cleared hy the Pl~nD ting book.mindedness in the country by ing Commission and fUI,ds provided publisbin~ good books at moderate prices therefor. and making these books available to the general reader and allo by organising book fairs, exhibitions and seminars. Tbe Faster Trains Between Bombay and Trust has not fai led to achieve its objec- Delhi Uvea. 3628. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the (b) at (c) The National Book Trust Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to receives grants.in-aid rrom the Government. state : The grants-in-aid given to the Trust during the last three years are as fol1ows : (a) whether it is 8 fact that Railways are introducing faster trains to Bombay 1982-83 Rs. 1,09,13,019.00 from Delhi;

1983·84 . Rs. 1 ,56,79~047.00 (b) if so, the total number of trains 1984-85 Rs. 1,49,98,635.00 that are being introduced; and

The National Book Trust is not a (c) what are tbe other areas "here faster commercial organ isst ion and does not tra!ns are being introduced? maintain a profit and loss account. Th ere· fore, the question of the Trust incurring THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE loss does not arise. The Trust. however, DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI prepares the Proforma Acconnts and these MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (8) (No, Sir. are included in the Annual Report for the respective year. The 8noua I report of tbe (b) Does not arise. National Book Trust is laid on tbe Table of the House. (c) None at present. DBCBMB8It 12, 1985 Wrlttln .4nsw", 100

Aeqairiog More Alrllasel Jets .8d

(a) whether Government propose to ac- (c) whether Government will ensure quire more Airbuses, Jets and Boeing Air. tbat the modernisation of tbe Neyyar Dam crafts for its fleet for operational pur- Project is completed in the Seventh ~lan ? poses; 'THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- (b) if so, number such jetliners that or URCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND) : will be added in the fleet; (a) to (c) The Government of Kerala have submitted the project report on moderni- (c) whether these additional jets will sation (If Neyyar Irrigation Project to be put into C'peration on Intem£ tional Central Water Commission in February, routes and also on domestic Bights from 1984 for technoeconomic' clearance and April 1, 1986 ; and acceptance of the Planning Commission. The pro,iect proposal envisapes irrjgation (d) whether daily direct Bights ~n be to about 9900 hectares and is estimated operated on Delhi·Baroda route as a to cost 9.05 crores. The completion result of availability of additional air- Rs. craft? of this project would depend on providing requisite funds by the State Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION Second International Aircraft Near (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) Air Bombay India and Indian Airlines propose to augment their fleet of Airbus aircraft. 3631. SHRI SHARAD DIG HE : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased (b) Air India bas placed an order for to state: the acquisition of 6' A 310-300 Airbus Aircrafts to be induced progressively in (a) whether it is a fact that there is a its fleet during the year 1986. Indian proposal to build a second International Ajrlines has placed a letter of intent for Aircraft near Bombay; the purchase of 19 Airbus A 320 Air- craft to be inducted in its fleet in ~he year 1989·90. (b) if so, at what place;

(c) No, Sir. The first such aircraft to (c) whether it is also a fact that the be acquired by Air India is proposed to Bombay Metropolitan Regiona) Develop. be deployed for international operations ment Board has proposed Mandwa port for from the 24th of April, 1986. that purpose; and

(d) Depending on the traffic demand (d) if so, details thercof ; then available, Indian Airlines would examine the possibility of operating a daily direct flight between Delhi and THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE Baroda. DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHIll JAGDJSH TYTLER.) : (a) No, Sir. Modernisation of NeYf. Dam Pro- ject in Kera.. (b) Does not ariso. 3630. SHRI A. CHARLES: Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES (c) & (d) In view of the reply liven be pleased to state; to (a) above, doc, Dot ari.e. iOI Written Answers AGRAHAYANA •• , 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 10 ~

Olnbal"Tenders fOr Railway RequiremeDts The blooms supplied by the Allow Steel Plants, Durgapur to Wheel & Axle Plants Bangalore have never been rejected in 3632. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: entirety on account of tapers and ultra- tbe Minister of plea.. will TRANSPORT be sonic failures. Only a small portion of sep staee : about 5 % of each bloom at tbe ends is discarded due to tapers. Similarly, on an (a) whether Government have issued a~erage only about 8 % of axles manu- global tenders, for the requirements of factured out of the blooms have been railways; rejected finaJly on account of ultrasonic tests. (b) if so, what global tenders were invited during the past one year and what are the details of the product/contract; (b) On an average, Alloy Steel P1ant have supplied 820 m/tonnes per month and against 1,000 m/tonnes per month promised Jeaving a shortfall of about 18 %. (c) the reasons for inviting globa However, in October, 1985 because of t:nders when amp} e manufacturina units1 labour trouble DO supply could be made. and know.. how was available in the country? Railways have been alJowed import of 6,000 m/tonnes of blooms through cana- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Jising agengy (M.M. T.e.> to build up DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SH{{I buffer "tock. MADl-IA VkAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) Alloy Steel Plants, Durgapur has promised to supply 1,200 m/tonnes per (b) and (c) The information is being month from Dec. '85 tiU March '86 which collected and cOlnpiled and will be laid is expected to meet the planned produc- on the table cf the Sabba in due course. tion requ;rem8nts of Wheel & AxJe P Jant, Bangalore.

Import of Blooms by Railways Contracts for Railway Construction in Iraq 3633. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be 3634. SHRI SA TYENDRA NARA- pleased to stat e : YAN SINGH : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (a) whether the blOoms supplied by the Alloy Steel Plant of Steel Authority of (a) whether the railway"s have been India for the Wheel and Axle Plant at negotiatinl for more contracts for railway BaDgalore! have been rejected on account, construction in Iraq ; of the tapers and ultrasonic failures ; (b) \\'hether the railways experience with previous contracts has been encoura- (b) whether the Alloy Steel PJant bas ainS; been able to keep up its supply schedul e, compelling the Railway,s to seek tbe im- (c) whether any payments from Iraq port of I he products, and Government in thiS relard are pending and; (c) if so, bow tbe present requirement of blooms by the Wheel and Axle Plant (d) if so, what steps have been taken is beinl met? to realise these amounts?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB THE MINISTER,OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENr OF RAlLWAYS (SHRI DEPART'MENT OF R.A1LWAY~ (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCANDIA) : (a) No, Sir. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No. Sic. 103 Wrill~n An_w~rJ DBCBMBlut 12, 198$

(b) Yes. (2) LOAN 2417-IN FOR $ 280.7 MILLION, which Covers : (c) No. Railway Electrifica tion ;

(d) Does not arise. 2.2 Workshop Modernisation inclu. ding maintenance depots; etc. World Bank Aid to Indian Railways etc.

3635. SHRI M.V. CHANDRA SHE- (d) Both Credit 12~ 9-IN/Loan 2210 KHARA MURTHY: and 2417-IN are on-goina clcdits/Joan SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA- and the work on the projects included BEN RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI : therein have already started.

Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be (e) The amount likely fo be received pleased to state: from the World Bank during 1986 & 1987 would be as under : (a) whether it is a fact that World Bank has agreed to provide aid and as~is tance to the railways in imp) ementing 1986 1987 many projects ;

(b) if so, the total aid that wil1 be (i) Credit 1299- $ 73 $ 131 provided to the Railways; IN/Loan million million 221C-IN (c) what are the prujects that will be covered and implemented on the World (ii) Loan 2417/IN 31 62 Bank's aid; $ $ million million (d) by what time they are likely to start; and Development of JabaJrur Airport 3636. SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN : Will (e) how much quantum of the same is likely to be received during 1986 & the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to 1987 ? state.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) \\hefber the traffic from JabaJpur DEPARTMENT OF IlAILWAYS (S}IRI Airport is on the increase; MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) $ 680. 7 mi1Jion. (b) if so, the percentage of such increase with year.wise break up during the (c) There are 2 ongoing Credits/Loan for Rai1\\ay Projects viz : past three years; (1) 1299-IN/LOAN 2210-IN (c) whether there is any perspective FOR US S 400 MILLION pJan to develop this airport; and which covers : Cd) if so, the details thereof? 1.1 Diesel Component Works, Patiala ;, THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN T.fIE 1.2 Components fur freight wagons; DEPARTMENT OF CiVIL AVIATION

1 . .,; AC El ectric Locomotives (SHRI lAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1.8 Unit Exchange System ; (b) The percentage Jncrease and year- 1.S Fuel Conservation & Train Operation; wise breet up 1s as under : to 5 Vrillen Answers AGRAHAYANA 21,1907 (S'AK4) Wrlttln Ans"',rs 106

Year No. of Percentage CARGO (TONNES> passengers increase Loading Percentaae increase

1 2 3 4 5

1981 3,955 '6.4 1982 6,224 57.4 7.3 14.1 1983 6,348 2 00 10.1 38.4 1984 10,257 61.6 17.2 70.3

Cc) Yes, Sir. [Eng/ish]

(d) Worls relating to resurfacing of Replacement of Steam Engines by Diesel! the runway and construction of technica 1 Electric Engines block.. cum.control tower are in progress. Provision has been made in the Seventh 3638. SHRl DILEEP SINGH BHU- Five Year PJan for augmentation of water RIA: Will the Minbter of TRANSPORT and power supply and construction of be pI eased to state: approach road to the new apron from the existing road. (a) the number of steam engines func· tioning in the country at present; and (Translation] (b) by what time they are proposed LiDkin~ of Ajmer with Avro Service to be converted into die~el engines or electric engines? 3637. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state : DE:PARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA): (a) The (aJ whether it is a fact that Govern· total holding of Steam Locomoti~es on the ment have been receiving representations Indian Railways as on 1.7.85 was 5944 for a long time in regard to linking of locomotives. Ajmer with the other parts of the country by Avro service; (b) By around 2,000 A.D.

(b, if so, the progress made in this Replacement of Steam Engines by Diesel rega rd ; and Engines on Lines in Baroda District

(c) tbe time by which Government 3639. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: propose to link Ajmer with the other parts Will the Mini.ter of TRANSPORT be ple- oftbe cJuntry by Avro serv ice? ased to state:

THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE (a) whether OovernmeDt are aware DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION that there are narrow pUle Jines in the (SHRI JAGDlSH TYTLER): (a) Yes, Adlvasi area of Baroda District aDd tho Sir. trains run on these lIDOS are haYia. stoam engines and the cnlinos run on those lines (b) and (c) 10 the absence of an air- have become very old and take a lODler field al Ajmer there arc no immediate time toreach the destination; plana to' provido an air link to this station b, an Avro ServM;e. (b) whother it is a fac;\ that Q~' tQ DECEMBEtt J2. J985 ;Yrjlt~n Anrw6rs 108

that the people or thaI area prefer-to travel THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB in buses instead of trains ! DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRJ JAGDISH TYTLEH): (a) to (d) (c) wh ether it is also a fact that many Flying Training was hitherto imaparted r:presentations have been mad~ to railway only by the flying clubs, but now tbe authorit, for the change of these outdated Government has decided to set up a Cen- convenience of the people of these back- tral Flying Schoo) caUed the Indira Gan- ward areas ; an d dhi Rashtriya Uran Akademj at Fursat- ganj in District Rae Bareil1y, Utter Pradesh. (d) if so, the steps taken or proposed It will be a wellequipped school for tqe to be taken in this regard? training for Commercia) Pilots' Licence. The Akademi wiJl also provide facilities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for: DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Railways (i) Train iog of Flying Instructors; r have provided Narrow Gauge 1in es in the l Adivasi area of the Baroda District. About (ii) Refresher Courses for State i 40 % of tbe steam locomotives running Governmen t Pilote ; these services have completed their codal life, but all efforts are made to ensure (iii) R efr esher training for Commt;;r- tbat these locomotives are in good fettle. cial Pilots' Licence holders; and

(b) One of tbe reasons why people (iv) Training of foreign nationals. It may be travelling by buses instead of trains wiJl be a residential Akademi could be that buses take lesser time to which would take 80 trainees at a cover tbe distances. time.

(c) Yes, Sir. The foundation stone of the Akademi was laid by the Prime Minister on 7.11. (d) It is planned t(l progressively re- 1985 and it is expected to start imparting plaee overaged NG Steam locomotives by training on ground subjects from June, Diesel locomotives which have had to be 1986 and full training for flying from Sep- specially designed to suit the axle load tember, 1986. conditions available on such sections. Prototypes of such D:esel locomotives have In addition, the Goveloment has paid been planned for production in ,itailway Rs. 2,54,70,OOOj. to the Aero Club of establishments. India for procurement of 29 tea jning aircraft (or distribution amongst flying cJubs Flying TrainiDg Facilities in different States and Union Telfitories. This would also improve flying trainiol 3640. SHRI PRIYA" RANJAN DAS facilities. MUNSI : Will the Minister of TRANS PORT be pleased to state : The Government pays subs lay to the flying clubs to reduce the cost of train in, (a) whctner Government have zny pro- borne by the trainees. posal to modernise and improve the fiyina training faciJities in different StetesjUnion Providing Wagons at Nagpur Station to Territories ; Tim be r Mercban ts

SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO· (b) if so, tbe details ther eof ; 3641. HIT: Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT (c) the progress made in the matter; be pleased to refer to USQ No. 1449 dated .nd 1st August, 1985 regarding "providing wagons at Nagpur Station" and stEle: (d) the steps, if any, taken/proposed to be taken to open ap avenues of ftyinl (a) whether Government are aware \r a ininl to boys from Poorer families? that sin~e the 'montbs of September lad 109 ,y,lt/en Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAK'A) Wtltttn Answtrs 110

Octob.er, 1985, the timber merch10ts of work ing for tbe salvation and upliftment the Nagpur city are continuously represen- of women Statewise in our country ; ting the railway authorities to provide adequare wagons; (b) the amount of financial and· other type of assistance being provided by the (b) whether Government are aware Centre and States to the institutions whicb that the stocks of timbers ar e pil iug up in are worki ng for solving various propJems the bhe~ at railway stations and Railways of women; and are not providing wagons to them ; and (c) the basis for providing financi al (c) if so, what step-; GO\iernment pro- assi~tance and whether Govemm ent propose to take in this regard? pose to enhance this amount of assistance? THE MINISTFR OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No re- DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS presenta lions have been received from & SPORTS AND WOMEN'S WELFARE the timber merchants of Nagpur in this (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : (a) to regard. (c) A statement is laid on the table of the House. [Placed in library. See No. LT (b) No dem'lnds are pending at Nagpur 1943/85]. station for allotm ~nt of wagons for movement of this traffic. [ Trnslationl

(c) Doee. not arise. Introduction of a Direct Train between Daltonganj and Calcutta Helicopter Ambulance for Lakshadweep 3645. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : 3642. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY sed to state : WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware (a) whether it is a fact tbat arrange- that Daltonganj in Bihar is a big trade ments to acquiJe a helicopter ambulance centre; are being considered with a view to trans· port serious patients from Lakshadweep to (bl jf so, whether businessmen travel the maindJand ho~pita)s; and from Daltonganj to Calcutta and back dai Iy in connection with their business; (b) if so, the details of the prC'posal? (c) if so, whether it has be:n brought THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to the notice of Government that due to DEPARTMENT o~.; FAMILY WELFARE there being no direct train service between (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) No, these cities these businessmen are facing Sir. a lot of inconvenience and difficulti es ,•

(b) Does not arise. (d) whether Government propose to run a direct train from Daltonganj to Cal· Institutions Working for tbe Upliftment cutta : and of Women (e) if so, by when and jf not the rea- 3643. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDH. sons th er e for? ARY : Will tbe Mmister of HUMAN RE- SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, (a) the total number of iostitutions Sir. 111 Written Answers DBCEMBBR 12, 1985 Jftrittfn Answers 112

(b) Yes, Sir. reduce bJindn ess from J.4 per cent by 2000 A.D. (c) Yes, Sir. The details of tbe Programme are as (d) No, Sir. under:

(e) Due to shortage of resources like (1) To ext end eye care services in coaches and locomotives as well as. const- the ~eripheral areas through camp raints of capacity on certain sections lioe approach involving community at enroute and inadequate termina 1 facilities at large and the voluntary orga- especially at Hawrah, it is not feasibJ e nisations in the programme : to introduce a train between Daltonganj and Howrah. (2) To estflblisb permanent eye care facilities at Primary Health Cen- [E"glish] tres, districts and state level for which the fo)Jowing iufrastructure National Programme to Prevent Children has already been established; from Blindness and other Diseases Mobil e Units 80 3646. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : Will the Minister of HEALTH Strengthening of PHCs. 2000 AND FA\dILY WELFARE be Pleased to state: Strengthening of District Hospitals 404 (a) whether it is a fact that nearly 25,000 children become blind and 21 U pgradation of Depart- million cbiJdren suffer from goitre, creti- ment of Ophthalmology nism, mental and physical abnormalities of Medical ColI eg es 58 under the a~e of six eO/ery year in our conntry ; Estab]ishment of Regio .. nal InsUs. of Ophthalmo- (b) if so, whether 8 national program- logy 9 me h called for to deal with thi§ alarm- iog situation.; and EstabHshment of Districts Mobile Units 30 (c) if so, the details thereo f1 State Ophthalmic Cells 18

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Ophthalmic Assistants DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Training Schools 37 (SHIll S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) No data on incidence of blindness in chiJdren Eye Health Education activities have under 6 years of ale is avaiJable. How- aJso been intensified. Propbylaxis against ever, according to rough estimate about hlir,dirg malnutrition is through disuibution 30,000 cbildren suft'tr from Vitamin, C A' of Vitamin' A' to children btt1\et'n 1 to S deficiency leading to blindness. With ~ean offge Ihrc\[h W.(lliF,n.jl~ '\'clhne respect to goitre about 120 million people arc lCLS }:ICjectL 1he }':ati(Dal Gcitle are living in the endemic areas and appro- Control Pro~rarrme has Jauncted t()wards atimately 40 minion are affected. No tbe end of the Secrnd Five Year Plan with surveys have been conducted to estimate the folJowing objectives: the preva lienee of eret inlsm, menta 1 and physical abnormalities separately. (0 To identify the ,oitre endemic regions; (b) and (c) To tackle the problem of blindness in the country, National Pro- (ij) To supply iodiseci salt in pJace of Iramme for Control of Blindness has been ordinary common salt to the 80ftre lauocbed in 1976 with ultimate IOaI to endemic areas; , . J J:4 W"lt,n Answ.,s AGRARA~ARA 21. 1907 (SAKA) Written Alllwers 114

(iii) To assess the impact of goitre . (d) tb e reasons' for not taking up! control measures ovet a period of completing the remaining projects? time. THE MINISTER OF TR ANSPORT To encourage private manufacturers to (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Only ,one pro. produce iodised salt, the Salt Commissio- ject viz Construction of Nigri-Mahurgaon- ner bas grant ed permission to 144 un i ts Banjari·Jbarasarai road including bridges out of wh~ch 14 'have already' gone into and culverts in Sidhi District of Madhya production and the otbers are expectedto Prapesh costing Rs. 120.00 lakhs ha~ been go on stream in batches. approved for being financed from Cen- tral Road Fund during Sixth Five Year Need for Training io' AYiatlon Medleloe Plan. 3647. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) No amount has been released for WELFARE be pleased to state: this project as particulars of tbe t echni~ ally sanet ioned estimate are still await ed (a) whether with the inCIease, in air from State Government. travel there is an urgent need for avjat- ion medicine; and ic) and (d) Does not 'al ise.

(b) whether Government would inst- Separte Universities for Law and Medic- itute courses and training in aviation ines and Indira Gandbi Open Univ- medicines both in under-graduate aDd ersity post graduate medical institutions in tbe country? 3649. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEVELOPMENT be bl eased to state: DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and (a) whether there is a proposal to set (b) The Medical Council of India has up separate un'iversitles at the AJl India reported that there is no specific provis- level for Law and Medicines; ion in the under-graduate medical curriculum for Aviation medicine. However, (b) whether the Indira Gandhi Open the subject matter of civil air travel University will also iDclude Law and is covered in the syllabus for the M.B.B.S ~fedicines ; degree course. The post-graduate diploma course in Aviation Medicine is already (c) whether the existing number of beJng conducted at the Institute of Aviat. Law Co 11 eges and Medical Q»lJitges are ion; Medicine, Bangalore. not abl e to satisfy the de~ ~f all overwhelming , majority of sin den.. Pr~jects Taken, up in ~adhya Pradesh seeking admission into Law and also Under Central Road Fund Medicin es ; and

3648. KUMAR] PUSHPA DEVI : Win (d) if so, the steps taken by Govem~ tbe Minister of TRANSpORT be pleased ment to cater to the growing needs and to stato: demands for education in the above branehes ? (a) the Dames aDd the number of the projects in Madbya Pradesh which were takcD up for exccutio~ under Central THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Road Fund durinl the Sixth Plan; DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- (b) thc amount released for each of TOI): (a) No such proposal is under the consideration of the Government .. tbose Proj ects ;

'(0) bow m8ll)' -of thole projects have (b) Th e coulcs and programmes to bofl' takaJ' up/ COID$)loted 10 far; aDO be offered by the Indira Gandhi Nation., lIS 'Written Answ,rs DECEMBBR 12. 1'85 IYrlne" A"~w'rs 116

Open University have not yet been finali- (a) wbethet doubling of Bandel-Kafwa sed. However, the University might in Railway line of Eastern Railways, Howrah due coune be able to offer continuing Division will be undertaken durina the education programmes in Law and Medi. Seventh Plan period; cine also. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) The Central Governm.nt does not normally establish ColJeges. It iii for the (c) if not, the reaons therefor? State Govts to consider whether any more Colleges sl}ould be established to meet THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the growing ne eds in their States. In the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI cose of Medical Colleges, the Central MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (c) A Government is of the view that at present survey for auementation of line capacity the existing facilities should be consoli· on the Bandel-Katwa section is in progress. dated rather than establishing more Further action wil1 be considered after the Colleges. survey has been completed, and the survey report eKamined, subject to availability of (d) Does not arise. funds. Sbipping Senice Between India ADd Sharjah Work or Bbadreswar-Bandel Rail Link

36 C O. SHRI P.A. ANTHONY: will 3652. SHRI ANIL BASU : Will the t he Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased Ministe£ of TRANSPORT be pleased to t'J state: state:

(a) the initial response to the shipp- (8) whether extension work of Bhadre- ing <:.ervice between India and Sharjah; swar to Bandel third line under Eastern Railways, Howrah Division. will be under- (b) whether there is any proposal to taken during the Sev: nth PJan period; increase its frequency; and (b) if 80, the details thereof; and (c) whether there is any proposal to start a similar shipping service between (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Coch in and Gulf countries?

THE !\~INISTER OF' TRANSPORT THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) The initial res- DEPARTMENT DE RAIL\\'AYS (SHRI ponse to the passenger shipping service MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (c) between Bombay and Sharja started by There is no proposal for provision of third MIs. Marathon Gulf Shipping Co. of Shar- line on this sect jon. at present. Survey ror jab does not appear to be bright as only aUlUlentation of line capacity between 58 and 97 passengers respectively were Sheoraphuli and Bandel Section including carried on its two inward sailings from Tarakeshwar Branch bas been tak en up in Sbarjah to Bombay and only 4 passenaers order to assess the additional facil ities, if were carried on its second outward any; required. sailing from Bombay to Sharjah as &la- inst the ship's capacity of 427 passeng- Sallaesa Carried by Vyudoot in Uttar ers .. Pradesh

(b) and (c) Covt. have received no luch 3653. SHRI ANIL BASU: Will tbe proposals. Minister of TRANSpORT be pleased to atate : Doubliog of Budel-Katwa RaO Line 3651. SHRI ANIL BASU: Will the (a) total amount of Businecss carried Minister of TRANSpORT be pleued to OD by the Vyudoot services in Uttar Pca- ,tate: deab citios till 4atc; 1t 1 Written Answers AORAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Written An )'We' S 118

(b) total amount of busines8 for Vayu- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE doot originated from Varanasi and Luck- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (5HRI now till date; MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to (c) Sur- vey for augmentation of I ine capacity bet- (c) total number of passengers booked ween SheoraphuJi and Bandel Section infor Varaoasi and Lucknow by Vayudoot. cluding Tarakeswar Branch and ext ension till date; of the line upto Arambagh has be en taken up. A decision on the project will be (d) total 'number of pesscngers booked taken after the survey has been completed, through Vayudoot for other cities from and Survey Report examined depending on Varanasi and Lucknow, till date; and the financial remunerativ~ness of the project and avaiJability of resources. (e) total amount spent so far to develop Varanasi and Lucknow airoorts? Subarnarekba Irrigation Project

3655. SHRI CHrNTAMANI lENA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of WATER RESOU- DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION RCES be pleased to state: (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Vayudoot has so far carried a bu~iness efRs. 290.51 (a) whether Subarnarekha Irrigation Pro. lakhs in U I tar Pradesh. ject in Orissa ~tate bas been taken up, if so, what is the progress made so far; (b) Vayudoot is not operating to Vara- nasi. Vayudoot operations to Lucknow. (b) the estimated COlt involved; and since January 1985, have resulted in a business of ks. 1,08.525.00 so far. (c) the time limit by when this project is 1ikely to be completed? (c) and (d) Since Vayudoot is not operating to and from Varanasi, it has neither THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU- made any btlsinels from this station nor RCES (SHRI B. S HANKAR ANAND ) : (a) carried any pa~~enger. The Company has, to (c) The Oriss.l Government have taken however, booked 280 passengers from up the works on the Subarnarekha Irrigation Lucknow and 1 3 1 pass eng ers to Lucknow Project and they have incurred an expendi. so far. ture of about Rs. 3.50 crores upto end of Sixth Five Year PJan. The project work (e) The amount spent towards modifi- are in the preliminary stage. The latest cation of terminai buiJdiIigS at Lucknow estimated cost of the project is Rs. 391.49 and Varanasi duriilg the year 1985·86 has erores. The project is targetted to be been of the older of Rs. 20.131akhs and completed by 1994-95. Rs. 40.00 lakhs respectively. Construction of New Station building at t arakeswar Arambagh RaiJ Link Mecbeda Railway Station (Howrah.Kha- ragpur Section) 3654. SHRl ANIL BASU: Will the ~iinister.J of TRANSPORT be pleased to 3656. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA : state: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (a) whelhe there is any scheme for eJ(· tension of railway 1iue from Tarakeswar (a) the present position of construction Station to Ardmbagh town under Eastern of the new station buUding at t~e Mecbeda Railways. Howrah Division, durina the Railway station, Howrah-Kharagpur sec- Seventh Plan period; tion, S.E. Railways;

(b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) the details thereof;

(,) if not. the reasons therefor; (~ when the QODItructioD work will btl 119 Wrltte,t, Ans~rs DECEMBER. 11; 1'85

completed and when the Station building THE MINISTER. OF STATE .IN THE will be opened; and DEPARTMBNT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCI:NDlA) '(a> No, Sir. . (d) th~ reasons for the delay? Not at present: '

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Does not. arise. DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and' (b) Shifting of S.E. Railways OfIJce from tile The structur e of the station building ha~ Present Ho1trah Station Area to the' Pro- been completed and finishing works are' in posed Padmapulmr Area progress. 3659. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: (c) The station building is expected to Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- be completed opened by March, 1986. sed to state:

(d) The construction work has been (a) whether progress has already been delayed because of continued labour pro- made in connection' with the shifting of blem. S.E. Railways' office from present Howrah Station area to the proposed Padmapukur Renovation of Howrah Railway Station area ; and

3657. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: (b) by what time do Government plan Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be to shift the same ? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB (a) whether there is any pr oposal DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI under consideration of the Minister to MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) The land renovate Howrah Railway station during requhed for the proposed Coaching Termi- Seventh Plan period; nal at Padmapukur has not yet been handed over by the State Govt. (b) if so, details thereof; and

(c) if Dot, the reasons therefor? (b) The compI etion of the work depends on' the handing over of the land THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by the State Govt. and the availability of DEPARTMENT OF RAIL\VAYS (SHRI resources in the coming years. MADHAVH.AO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b) A proposal for construct ion of four additional Transportation of Jute and Freight Cbarge. platforms at Howrah Station during the Seventh plan, at an approximate cost of 3660. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Rs. 9,}0 crores, is under examination. Will the Minister of TRANSpORT be plea.. sed to state : (c) Does not arise. (a) quantity of jute (raw, finished, half Fast trains between BOJnbay and otber finished jute goods) transported by the important cities indian Railways duriog the last three yearl;

3658. SHRI\1ATI JAYANTI PAT.. (b) the freight cbarges of raw jute and NAIK: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT raw cotton carried by Indian Railways for be pleased to state: 1000 K.m. ; and

(a) whether Government propose to (c) the' basis of fixina the frciabt introduce some more faster trains bet. charges? ween Bombay and other important cities in the country; and THE MINISIER OF ST ATE IN THB (b) if so, tb~_ deta\ll) thereon DBPAkTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SH&I ,: .. i 2 i Writ/'n Aflsw.r6 Wriltell A.nswer, 122

MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (8)' The Quan- CoordinatioR between Zonal Cultural Cen- tity of jute tran"ported by Rail during t.he tres and Indira Gandhi National Centre last three years was as under :- for Arts

(In, mi11ion tonnes) 3661. FROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT Year Jute raw Jute manu- Total be pleased to state: factured (a) whether any coordination has been 1982.. 83 0.45 0.23 0.68 elJtabJish ed between the Zonal Cultura I Centres and the Indira Gandhi National 1'983-84 0.38 0.13 0.51 Centre for Arts recently set up at New Delhi; 1984-85 0.44 0.08 0.52 (b) if so, the nature of coordination; and (b) The freight charges for raw jute and raw cotton for 1000 Kms. are given (c) if not, whether such a ooordination , below:"';_ would be established so as to provide the necessary exchange of views and activities in the field of Cutlure and Art~ and the Commodity Freight rate per quintal likely date by which it would be dOD e ? for 1000 Kms. ------THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMEiiTS OF EDUCATION AND Smalls W'Jgonloads CULTUi<.E (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- Rs. Rs. TGI): (a) and (b) Not so rar Sir.

1. Jute Full (c) Yes Sir as and when required. pressed 30.18 25.00

2. Jute Half Provision of Passenger Amenities at Kirat- pressed 52.64 30.18 pur Railway Station

3. Jute un- 3662. PROF. NARAIN CHAND pressed 52.64 35.37 P ARASHAR: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 4. Cotton (raw) ~ll pressed 37.09 30.18 (a) whether any pa4\senger amenities the followina nave been provided at the Kirat- 5. Cotton (raw) pur Railway Station on the Nortbern Half pressed' 52.64 33.64 Railway:

6. Cotton (raw) (1) 1st Class Waiting Room with loose 52.64 40.'5 toilet facilities;

(ii) Rain shelter for the platform; and (c) The freight rate for a commodity depends on the classification assigoe(l to it (iii) canteen facilities ; in the Railway Freigbt Structure and tbe distance over which it is carn cd. Each (b) if so, the exact nature of the facili- commodity bas been assigned an appro- ties and whether they are sufficient for tbe priate claSsification takina into account its paascaaers due to the increas: in the tea- transportation cbaractenstics such as ffic ; and valul, loadability, usc. riak ill tranat It;. (0) if DOt, the reasons therefor a' \l the i 23 Writtln A nswerl DECEMBElI2, 1985 likely date by which these would be provi- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ded OD a bett er scale? DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE (b) Yes, Sir: DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) (c) To the best of our knowledge such The following facilities are provided at a warning is beinp inshted upon in other Kiratpur Railway Station :- countries.

(I) A First Class Waiting Room of (d) Does not al ise. size 16' X 14' with 2 attached bath and 2 attached latrines. International Seminar in Calcutta on Since piped water supply does "Metro RaHways-Problem and Prospectsn not exist at this station, the toilets are not sanitised. 3664. SHRI SANAT KUMAR ~1AN DAL: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (ii) There is no shelter over the plat- be pleased to state: form. However a second class 1 waiting room of size 20' X 30 (a) whe.her the Calcutta Mdro Rail- exists for Second Class passengers Wcly authorities organised an intern"alional which also setves as rain shelter Seminar in Ca icutta during tbe last month for them. on the theme '. Metro Railways-problems and pro~pects'J ; (iii) There is a vending stall where tea, snacks and cold drinks 'Nere being (b) jf so, the number of foreign experts sold by the vending contractor. who joined the Seminar and the countries The contract has ~inCe been termi- which they represented and which of the nated and fresh applicatioil have countries having lnetro railwJY system who been invited for th e vending were invited but refused to participate; c('ntract. (c) tbe approximate cost of tbe seminar The existing facilities are adequate for borne by the Calcutta Metro; the present level of traffic. (d) the probl ems of construction and (c) Does not arise. - bigh cost of building any rnerfO aLd ways of funding and operetion of metro syst~ms DiscolouratioD of Teeth by Use of Tetra.. and other cognate matters discussed; aDd cycline (e) how far the deliberations aimed at 3663. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will the sharing the experience have or are go- the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY ing to heJp the Calcutta Metro In its cutt- WELFARE be pleeased to state: ing down high construction costs, operational efficiency etc? (a) whether use of tetracycline causes permanent discolouration of teeth; THE MINISTER OF ~')TA1E IN THE DEPAR.TMENT OF RAILWAYS

(c) Approximate co~t of the Seminar Amin~oa, Guwahatj, containerised tea from borne by the Calcutta Metro is Assam is expected to pass through Haldia Rs.4,6S,OOO. . only, thereby substantail1y raising container traffic of Ha1dia from next year, (d) Problem~ of construction, cost of Regarding the handling of transhipment building of metro systems, ways of funding, containers, the scope of developing Haldia operation of metro systems and other cog- as a centre for transhipment of contair.eri- nate matt ers \vere discussed. sed cargo hardly exists because of Haldia'S unfavourable geographic 1ocation. (e) During the del iheraHons the experience from oth l'r countries reveaJed that the construct jon cost of Metro Railway at Violation of Reservation Rules by Air Calcutta j<; rea~onahle. The discus~ions India for Foreign Po stings have enriched the know~edge of the Metro Railway Officers and will go a long way in 3666. SHRI ANADI CHA:{AN DAS: ensuring efficient construction and opera- Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- tion of Metro R:l ilway c,yst em"i. sed to state:

Persuading Forei~n Shipping Lines for (0.) whether it is a fact that Air India VtiliSfltion of Haldia Port is not foHowing the policy of Government to gi \'e weightage to Scheduled Caste and 36()5. SH~I SANAT KlJMAR MAN- Scheduled Tribe candidates for foreign DAL: \Vill the Minlstt'r of T~ A NSPORT postings as provided in reservation rules; be p1eased ! 0 sta t e ; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (a) whether cargo handling at Haldia port is incr Ca~i;lg and thl~ pl)rt poi<; ed to (c) the number of candidates sent on excefd seven million tonne n~a;k during foreign po~tings during the last three years the current ~e:,r ; bv A ir India and the number of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes' amongst (b) if so~ what ~teps are being taken to them? persuade the foreign shipping lines to use Haldia port not only for transhipment of containerised cargo but also to utilise fuUy THE MINJ'\TER OF STATE IN THE th e port's facilities, which is capabl e to DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION handling mnny more co['cdners tha;-t it is (SHRT .lAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) No, Sir. doing now ; There is no reservation for Scheduled Cas- tes and Scheduled Tribes candidates in the (c) what action has been initiated by rna tter of foreign postjng~. his Mjni~!ry to simplify the cumb~rsome and time-consuming cu~toms formalities (b) Question does not arise. with regar d to c. rgo tl anshipment ; and (c) DettijJs of foreign postings made (0) the deta1\~ thereof '? during the la5t three years is given below:- The MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. Year Total Scheduled Scheduled (b) to (d) For increasing conta iner tra- Castes Tribes ffic at Haldiu, the rates for container handling were reduced substan tiaJly a few years 1982-83 117 4 1 ago. Besides, Haldia is linked with Calcutta through inland barges for movement of 1983·84 93 2 containers fronl Calcutta to Haldia and vice versa at promotional rates. With the 1984·85 110 9 1 commissioning of inland container depot at DECEMBER 12, J985 IYrttt." AlflWers 128·

Sfatel Adlfe~ed Death Rate Goals finalisation and sanction of the scheme. for tbe channelisation of Swan Nadi in Una 3667. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: District of Himacbal Pradesh ; Will tbe Minister of HBALTH AND FAMILY WELFAltB be pleased to atate : . (b) tbe likely date by which the work would be taken up for construction in Case (a) whether deatb rate goals of 2000 it has been finalised and approved; and A.D. bave'sin~ been achieved by all ~tate Governments ; (c) it not finalised and approved so far, the Jike]y date by which it would be (b) if not, the names of the States sanctioned and the reasons for delay ? whicb have achieved this goal; and THE MINISTER OF WATER RE. (c) the action Union Government con- SOURCES (SHRl B. SHANKARANAND) : template to take to achieve tbe death rate (a) to (c) Tbe Himacbal Pradesh Govern- goals of 2000 AD by all the State Govern- ment forwarded in May, 1984, a brief Pro- ments? posal for an Integrated Area Development Project in Una District for cbannelisaUon THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of Swan Nadi and irrigation at an estima- DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE ted cost of Rs. 225 crores. The State (SHRI S. KRtSHN'" KUMAR): (a) No, authorities were requested in July 1984 to Sir. formulate a detailed scheme according to tbe guidelines of Central Water Commis- (b) The annual estimates of Death rate sion. Since the detailed project is not yet are provided by the Sam pte Registration received from the State Government, it will Sstem (SRS) of Registrar General, India. not be possible to. indicate tbe likely date Based on the estimated death rates for the by which tbe project would be sanctioned latest avail able year i.e. 1983, tbe (olJow- and tbe State would s tart the construction. ing States/Union Territories have already reached tbe .oal set for 2000 A.D. for World Bank Assistance for Minor Irrlga. National I eve1 : tion Development Project Haryana, Jammu & Kasbmir, Kerala, Manipnr, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Tripura, 3669. 'iHRI BHOLANATH SEN: Win AttN Islands, Chandigarh, Delhi, Goa, the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be Daman and Diu and Pondicherry. pleased to state ~

(c) To achieve reduction in death rate (a) whether Government have finalised to 9 per thousand by the year 2000 A.D., any a,reement with the World Bank for health infrastructure is being improved in minor irrigation development project to be a phased mann.er to provide health and implemented iD West Bengal during the relating facilities as near to the doorstep Seventh Plan period ; of the people as possible by establishing (b) if so, the details thereof; sub-centr est Primary Health Centres and Post Partum Centres. District level Hospi. (c) the salient features of tbe project tals are being provided witb extra Inputs. and tbe works proposed to be taken up in West Bengal with WorJd Bank assistance Swan N.di CbaDnel_tion Scheme during 1985-90 ; and

(d) the progress in the matter? 3668. SHR.I NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of THE MINlSTBR. OF WATER' RE- WATER RBSOURCES be pleased to refer SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND) : to reply liven to Unstarrcd Question No. (a) and (b) -Yes Sir. AD a,reemeut has 2504 dated 12th ~rcb, 1984 aod state: been signed with the IDA jD September 1985 for a credit of US '99 mill.' for t~ (a.l Uae latest prOll'ell made in tbe Weat, Beopl Minor Irriaatioa Project. AGRAHAYANA 21. 1907 (SAK~) Written Answ.,' 130

(c) The proposed project would com- (a) the alJoeatioD of Manjira river pri,e a five yea~ programme for UP&r~ding water to different States by Batchawat and constructing about (i) 3,400 deep Tribunal und er Award given in r e~pect tubewel1s (DTWS); (ii) 5,,,,00 shallow of utilization of Godavari Water; tubewells; an~ (iii) 10,000 open dugwells (b) the. number of projects c( nsfrllcf ed (ODWs). It would finance also completion under con~truction in difi'eJent States in of the distribution systems of about 200 Manjira River basin and which of these are river lift installations (RLIS), and improve- authorized by Union Gevernment ; ar.d ments to management anc agricultural extension services. (c) the details of storage capacity and irrigation potential of the above pro- (d) Since the credit has not yet been jects and the action tak en by Union declared effective, no c1aim has been reim- Go\'ernment to PI event unauthorized pro- bursed by the IDA. jects ? THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO. Allocation of Manjlra River Water to URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): States (a) The Godavari Water Disputes Tribu- na! headed b) Justice R. S. Bechav.·at in 3670. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: wi]] its award in 1980 have provided for the the MiniHer of WATER RESOURCES be utilisation of the Manjira river basin" ateII pJ eased to stat e : among the basin States as under :

I-RIVER BASIN ABOVE THE NJZAMSAGAR DAM.

(i) MAHAR.ASHTR~ New projects inc]udj:)g any additional use over and above the present sanet ion ed or cl eared utilisation. 2200 TMC

(ii) ANDHRA PRADESH Singur Project for waters supply to Hyderabad. 4.00TMC

(iii) KARNATAKA 15.27 TMC

Karanja Project 13.10 TMC

Chulkinala Project 1.17 TMC Additjona~ utilisation through lift schemes. 1.00 TMC

15.27 TMC

II-AT NlzAMSAGAR DAM ANDHARA PRADESH 58.00 TMC

III-BASIN BELOW THE NIZAMSAGAR DAM KARNATAKA 2.S TMC

Note The Tribunal has permitted a stora.e capacity of 30 TMC at SinFur Dam pro- vidiol (or aUgment~D& the Nizamsagar Command. (b) cl (c) The details of Projects completed/uoder construction in the MaJ')jiql basin are as uDdaer:· 131 Written ..4,..",

s. Name of Project Orea stora- "llIJIltiOD ,poteatia) Present status No 'Ie In :MilliGD .. Th. Ha. of approval Cubic'Motr.

1. COMPLETED PItOJECI'S

A. MAHARASHTRA

1. Tiru 23.325 1.2' UDopproved 2. Karad Kbed 12.35 2.6. -da- 3. Manar St. 1&11 125.44 24.47 Approved 4. Tima 11.33 2.18 Approved s. Tawlrja 20.53 4.04 U napprO\' ed. 6. Chirni 25.10 2..3 Approved

B ANDHRA PRADBSH

1. Nallavagu rO.40 4.04 Approved

2. Nizamsapr 445.00 119.29 Pre FIrst FiVe Year Plan project 3. Mehboobnapr DivonioD Project 4." atomIC.

C KANA-TAKA NIl,

2. PROJBCT UNDBR CONSTRUcnON

A. MA:HARASHTRA

1. Lendi 207." 19.8' Under examination in C. W.C. Tbi, is a joint project with Andhra Pradesh.

2. Lower Tirna 133." 20.~ Approved.

3! Rui 1.94 1.a Apptoved.

4. Divarjan 1'.52 1:81 Approved. s. Satoi It.1I9 2.'. Considered acceptable b, the Ad9ilory Committee of tbe PJanninl CoIlllDf.io~. " . 133 -W,itten AlUWi" AolAMyANA il, Ito' (SAK.4) Wrltt." An.swrl )34

1 2 3 4 5

6. Raiaoban 12.70 3,'1 -do-

7. Ma~saJga 14.'8 2..43 Under elltami. natIon in ewe. 8. Upper MaDar 108.00 lJ.:g 1 Comments of ewe sent to Stat e Govt. for clarification

B. ANDHRA PRADESH

1. SinBur 1.50 l'~OO Considered acceptabl e by Advilory Com- mittee of tbe Planning Com- mission.

2. Kamlasnala 35.04 3.S1 Under examin- aton in ewe including its inter-State as· pects.

C. KARNATAKA

1. Karanja 160.995 49.939 Comments OD the project sent to State Govt. for clarification

2. Chulkinalla 17.64 4.0' Approved.

The Central GovernmeDt bal -beeu uraing upon the State Governments to give priority to implementation of the accepted projects.

IDtrocl~ttioD of HeUcoptet Senlce to Ga1llto)4 aad if so, reasons for disconit Gaagtok Du.lion;

3611. DR. O. VIJAYA llAMA llAO : (c) whether Govornment would start a Will the Minister of TRANSPOIlT'be plea. Helicopter Service to Oan&tok pending led to state: ItartiDi of feeder service; and

(d) whetber Government would speed (a) whether Sikklm is a sensitive bor;' up coDltructtoo 'of a proper airfield? der State witb poor commUDicatioDl. with mainland and is oftcn cut off due to 'aDd. slides; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (b) whethcr for the above reuoDI a (SRRI JAODISH TYTLBR) : and (b) bclloortcr service had bOOD iQtroclueed for ~ bhrc.lf MI·I 'beUcopter . aerY icc bot. i ~ S .t'rilltn A "swlrS DECBMBER 12, t98l ween Bagdogra and Gangtok operated for Allotment of empty wagons a period of six months with effect from 1.5.82 for air-lift of officials and non-offi- 3673. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL cials sponsored by the Govt. of Sikkim. Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- This was further extended til] 15th June, sed to state: 1983 by the Ministry of Defence on a request of the Govt. of Sikkim. The s er- (a) whether Railways Board bas issued vice was discontinued after the 15th of in~tructions to Divisional .Railway Mana- June, 1983. because the Govt. of Sikkim gers to aHot empty wagons immediately did not seek further extension. for tr2Dsporting goods from one place to another; (c) The Helicopter Corpol ation of India may consider operating the service (b) if so, whether Government have subject to tbe availability of helicopters, received any memorandum complaining adequate infrastructural faci]i!ieS and the against the non..al1otment of such empty economic viability of tbe service. walons by Divisional Manager, Kota; (c) if so, the details there'or (d) The Director General of Civil Aviation is in the process of selecting a (d) whether Government propose to suitable sire for construction of an aero- aJ)ot empty wagons soon to the traders drl)me at Gan&1ok. through Divisional Managers, Kola against tbe bookings made for tran~portation of goods; and [ Translation] Enquiry Offices for providin~ informati on (e) if so, the details in this regard and re : availability of wagons if not, the reasons therefor?

3672. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be DEPARTMENT OF RAILWARS (SHRI pleased to state : MADHAVRAO SC1NDIA) : (a) No, Sir.

(a) whether Railways earn major por- (b) Does not arise. tion of th eir revepue from goods; and (c) Does not arise. (b) whether Government are receiving (d) No, Sir. complaints to the effect that Railway Offi· cers do not provide the info mati;)n requi- (e) Does not arise. red by businessmen about booking of wagons for transportation of tbeir goods; [EnglishJ and Development or BagDaD Station (c) jf so, whether Government propose to take suitable remedial steps either by 3674. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH having officers special1y draft ed for this Will the Ministor of TRANSPORT bo purpose and/or opening Enquiry Offices pleaSed to state; as dODe for passenger traffic? (a) whether Government have received THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TllE any proposal or memorandum from the DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI people for the development of Baanan MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. statioD;

(b) No, Sir. (b) if so, the contents thereof; .

(c) Does not arise•. (c) wbether GoverDment have CODli- 137 lJ"ritten Answers AGRAHAYANA 21. 1907 {S(1KA} "'ritten AnSWt'S' 138

dered these proposals; and (ii) Provision of a Javatory and a train indicat ion board. (d) the'steps Go'yernment propose t( take. to fu lfi1 their d~m'aDds? Stadium for Silchar

THE MINl3TER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3675. ~HRI AJOY BISWAS : Will tbe MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE· LOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) Proposals have been received for (a) whether the Government of Assam provLion of a subway at Howrah end, has required the Union Governmant for repair to the approach road, provision of financial assistance to construct an indoor a ticket counter on south side at Bagnon stadium at Silcbar, Assam; and Station, and for sparing the railways land for con ~t ruction of u bus stand. (b) if so. how much amount has been re!ea~ed therefor, so far? (e) & (d) (l) PROVISION OF SUB- WAY: . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS As per extant rul es, the proposal AND SPORfS AND vVOMENJS WEL.. is required to be sp0nsored by the FARE (SHRIMATI MARGAREf ALVA) : St~le Governmen~. No such re- (a) and (b) A proposal for construction of ference has been recei ved from a complex con;)lStlng of an Open stadium, them ~o far. an indoor stadium and a gymnasium at Sllchar was rec\,;Jved from tbe Government (h) REPAlR TO TilE APP;{OACH of Assanl dunog 197 S· 76 and a grant of ROAD: Rs. 50,UOO/-, as tben admissible, was sanc.. Thi§ work wi 11 be taken up sho rt- tloned for the project. 1y. Outdoor StadlUD fur Tripura (iii) P~OVISION OF A TICKEr COUNTER O~ SOUTH SIDE: 3670. SHRI AJOY 8I5WAS: Will the MInister of HUM!\N RESOURCE D£VE.. Such facil itlcs are provided on a LOP 4\1ENT be pleased to state: programmed bJsis depending upon the availability of funds and com- (a) whether the Government of Tri- paraf ive needs of various stations. pura bai requested tbe UnIon Government Accordlni1y, the suggestions will tor tinanclal alSsisrauce to construct an be kept in view. Tbls station has outdoor stadium at Agartala, Tripura; already b:en provided with 5 booking counters. (b) whether Government are aware tbat 10 Tnpura ther e IS no outdoor ~ta!l' Uv) RELI>~QUISHMENf OF LAND dH.lm lor development of sports act lvitiesj FOR BUS STAND: and

The proposal for relinquishment if so, how amount has beeD of rallway land to tbe State (c) IDuch sanctioned tberefor, so far1 Government is under correspon- dence with the State Government. THE MINISTER. OF STAlE IN THB The foiJo\\ring 2 works are also sanctio- DEPARTMENTS Of' YOUTH AFFAIRS ned for tbe dCrClo)mellt of Barnan Sta- AND SPOR.TS AND WO,'iEN'S WEL- t~on ;- FARE (SHRIMATI ~lARGARt::T ALVA) ~ (a) to (Q) A proposal was reech ed from (0 Provision of Platform cover-200~ the Govornment of Tripura durrn~ 19~4-8S 10DI_ for cooitructiOD of an outdoor b\oQlWD a' i 39 Written AlJswers bBCBMBER 12, 1985 Wr,tten Answers i .. 0

Badbarghat (A8arLala) and a grant of Rs. th~ri most of the kilometres have been 2.S0 lakhs was sanctioned for it. In addi- repaited. Against tbe provis ion of Rs. tion, the fol1owing sports infrastructure is 2.64 crotes in tbe current Annua) Pro- also under "construction in Tripura for gramme for th e improvemen t of this which financial assistance has been provid· section of National Highway, estimates ed by tbe Central Government as indicated amounting to Rs. 2S lakhs have been sanc- against each :- tioned and estimates amounting to Rs. 212 lakhs ar e under scrui tny . Rs. in Lakhs Expenditure incurred on Education (i) Indoor stadium at Agartaia 1.00 3678. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Win the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (ii) Swimming Pool DEVELOPMENT de pleased to state: at Agartala 0.50 (a) the actual expenditure incurred on (i ii) Open-stadium the following spheres of educational acti.. at Udipur 1.00 vhy during tbe last three years ending 31 Marcb, 1985 :- (iv) Open stadium at Kailashahar 1.25 0) EJ ementary Education (consisting classes I to VIII); ~laintenaDce of Bombay-Goa National Highway No. 17 (ii) Secondary Education (Class ]X to XII); and 3677. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be (iii) Higher Education (Colleges and pleased to state: Universities);

(a) whether it is a fact that the traffic (b) Amount of money spent (head-wise) on the Bombay-Goa National Highway No. in non-forma I Sector; and 17 is faeina severe constraints especia lIy in the Konkan region because of extremely (c) whether Government are satibfied bad condition of the road; and with this arrangement?

(b) ir'so, whether expeditious steps are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proposed to be taken to improve the road DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND condi lion s1 CULTURE

(Rs. in lakhs)

1982-83 1983-84 1984·85 Actual Revised _ Budget Estimates Estimates ------Elementary Bducation 217212 251144 266968 Secondary Education 151261 170149 17485S Hiaber BdUGatiou 680S1 78711 88473 t 4 t Wrltt,,, A",w,rl AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Written A"sw~rs 142

(b) There is no separate budget bead the pa~senger shipping service between for non-formal education as such. However, Madras and Singapore as it is not an ceo- total amount of approximately Its. 20582 nomical1y viable proposition. However, jf lakhs has been incurred during the Jast any private shipping company comes for- three years in th'e non· formal sector on ward to operate this service, their request elementary, se~ondary, higher and adult will be considered favourably. education. Expenditure on Medium Irrigation (c) Every effort is made to get more ProJects in Madhya Pradesh allocation for educatiJn within the constraints on resources. 3681. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: Wi)) the Minister of WATER RESOURCES Pamban Bridge be pleased to state that estimated expenditure to be incurred on each of the 3679. SHRI N. DENNIS: medium irrilation schemes in Madhya DR. V. RAJESWARAN Pradesh which are under consider ation of Union Government? Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO. pleased to state: URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (a) when is the Pamban road bridge Madhya Pradesh Government have sub- (Tamil Nadu) expected to be commissioned; mitted one medium irrigation project, and namely Sutiyapat tank project to Central Water . Commission in July, 1985 for techno- economic clearance and acceptance (b) tbe causes for the delay in commi- by the Planning Commission. The project s~ionjng tre brid~e? is estimated to cost Rs. 9.58 crores. THE MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) The work is tar- [ Translation] getted to be completed by February, 1987. Area CoYered by Railways in Madhya (b) Th e delay in commissioning of the Pradesh bridge is due to breach of contract and failure on th e part of earli er contractor. 3682. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state whether pc:r kilometre Shipping Service Between Singapore area covered by railways in Madbya Pra- and Madras desh is I ess as compared to that of other States and jf so, the action being taken to 3680. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the increase the same ? Minister of TRANSPORT be pI eased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) whether Government ar e aware of MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : Route Kms. the difficulties of pdssengers bound for per 1000 square Kms. of area in Madhya Sinaapore from Madras du e to tbe Pradesh is less than tbe a11 India burning of the ship Chidambaram; and average. The following New Lines in Madhya Pradesh are included in . Railway (b) jf so, the details of the steps taken Budget: to provide an alternate shipping service now 1 (i» Cota-Cbittoraarb.N ecmucb New B. G. Lin e (partly in Madhya THE MINISTER'" OF TRANSPORT Pradesh). (SHRI BANS! LAL): (a) and (b) A decision bas been. taken that Shipping (ij) Guna.. Owalior-Ettawah BG line. Corporation of India Ltd need Dot opcrato (iii) SatDa Rewa B.G. LiDC. 143 Writ/'n Answers DECEMBER 12, 1985 Written AnSlf6fJ 144

[English] (c) whether there is· any reguJar Inonitorjng of the scheme to enSure that Road Over-Bridges ia Orissa Under such diversion of funds does not tak~ Central Assistance place ;~nd

3683. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. NAIK : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (d) "heth er voluntary or~ ani~ations be pleased to 8tate : and social workers would be asscciated with it to check such diversion? (a) whether construction of some road over-bridges was taken up in Orissa with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Central Assistance- in the Sixth Plan DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH AFFAIRS period; & SPORTS AND WOMENJS WELFARE (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA) : (a) to (f» jf so, the number of such bridges (d) The Special Nutrition Programme is and estimated cost of each of such in the State Sector and the expenditure bridges ; in this regard is met from State reSOurces botb plan and non-plan. Hence, the ques- (c) the amount of Central assistance tion of diversion of funds by the Govern- provided for the cons1rcction of each of ment of India in respect of this programme those road over-bridges; and does not arise.

(d) the progr ess made in the construc- Irrigafion Projects of Kutla PE'fding tion thereof? Completion THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Presumably, 3685. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the Honourable Member is referring to the Minister of WATER RESOllRCES be road overbridge works for which Central p1 eased to sta te ; \ assistance is provided under the Central Aid Programme of Stat e Roads of Inter- (a) whether there has been vast es- State or Ecoromic Importance. Under this Prolrnmme, during the 6th Fi\'e Year calation in cost of most of the irrigation Plan no road over-bridge work has been projects pending comp'etion in Kerala; approved in Orissa. and

(b) to (d) Does not arise. (b) if so, give a detail ed picture about the names of the projects, estimated DiYersioD of Foads Meant for Special cost, originaJJy targeted dates of comple- Nutrition Programme tion, cost esca1Jation and the likely dates 3684. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA of completion and the percentage of cost Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOUR- escalation? CES DEVELOPMENT be pleased to THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- state URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND):

(8) wh ether any case of diversion (a) Th ere bas been cost escalation jn Major and Medium Irrigation projects of of funds meant for special nutritioa pro- the State. gramme for expectant and nursing mothers, has come to Government'. notice ; (b) The details are liven in the State- (b) if so, the detaDs thereof; OlCnt liVeD below : 145 W'rltt,n Answers AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Wrltt", Answerl 146

Statemeat D'tails of Major and M.dium Irrigation Projects of Kerala

s. Name of Project Original Latest %oage 10- . Original Likely No. apprd. esti. crease in schedule period COlt year CO(;t* cost date of of com- comple- pJetion tion

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

MAJOR SCHEMES

1. P eriyar ValJ ey 17.95 57.49 220 1978-79 VII ( 1976) Plan 2. Pamba 3.83 52.00 1258 1978 -do. ( 1964)

3. Cbitturpuzha 0.99 17.85 1703 1967-68 -do- ( 1964)

4. Kuttiadi 4.96 50.00 908 1969 -do- (1964)

5. Kanhirapuzha 3.65 44.56 1121 1965-66 -do- 6. Pazeassi 4.42 59.12 1238 1968 -do- (1964)

7. Kallada 13.28 220.00 1557 1975-76 -do. (1966)

8. Murattupuzah a 48.08 58.34 21 N.A. -do- (1983)

9. Cbimoni 23.43 28.12 20 1980 -do- (1983)

10. IdamaJayar UA 61.47 N.A. VIII Plan MEDIUM SCHEMES

1. Attapady VA 25.30 1982 VII Plan 2. Karapuzba 7.60 13.35 76 1986 VII (1978) Plan 3. Vamanapuram 36.40 37.12 2 N.A. VIII (1982) Plan 4. MeenachiJ US 35.00 N.A. -do- s•. BeDasurasagar US 11.37 N.A. -do- • Summary Record of discussions of the Working Group on Major and Medium Irrigation Projects and Flood Control Programme of Kerala for VII Plan (1985-90) & A.P. 1985.86 U. A. Upapproved Projo~t$. 147 Written Answlrs DBCEMBE&12. 1985

[Translation] ted ~he .Government of Madhya Pradesh t? distrIbute Sodium Thio·Su Jpbate injec•. Maletbukanak Station Platform to be hons ~ls~ to the clinics run by Voluntary Raised orlanls~tJOns as per guidelines issued by the Indian CouDcil of Medical Research. 3686. SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI: Will the Minister of TRANSpOkT be pleased to (b) and (c) The ICMR has conducted a state: controlled double blind study on the use of Sodium TbiosuJpbate. On the basis (a) whether any scheme to raise the of this, it recomm ended tbe use of Sodium Thiosulphate for the ameHoration level of the platform of the Malethukanak of tbe condition of tbe gas victim$. Based Station (District . Faizabad) is under on ICMR '8 recomm endations, the affected consideratil)O of. Government; and persons are being treated and all necessary medicines are being provided. (b) if so, the time by which work is likely to be started? Additional Bogies anc} Trains to ano fro New Jalpaigori THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3688. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) Will tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be The proposal for raising of rail level plat- pleased to sta te : form to medium le~el at ~-ialethukanak Station has beeD approved. It is not possi.. (a) whether Government are aware of ble to indicate the target date of comple- the heavy rush of passengers boarding at tion at this stage as it will depend upon New Jalpaiguri, the railhead for Sikkim the availabil ity of funds. DarjeeJing, Bhutan, Nepal; ,

(English) (b) whether it is a fact that at the above Junction a large number of armed Distribution of Sodium Thiousulphate force personnel also travel to and fro Vaccine to Bhopal Gas Victims frequently ;

3687. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : Will (c) whether the trains are so crowded the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMn~Y tbat passengers travel on raj] tops even WELFARE be pleased to state: on fast trains also totally blocking the vestibuls : and (a) whether sodium Thiosulphate vaccines were distributed to the Bhopal-l (d) if so, whether regular additional gas victim~ as per the direction of the t~ain is p~oposed to be started and addi, Supreme Court ; tlo~aJ ~8Jes attached to existing trains as IS bems done on special occasion? (b) whether ICMR bas conducted a study which gave an indication of tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE amilioration of the condition of the vict- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ims ; and MADHAVRAO SCJNDIA) (a) Yes Sir. ' (c) how many victims are still being treated and whetber there is a consensus tb) Yes. Sir. or the treatment of the victims by Medical experts '1 (c) and (d) Besides Tinsukia Mail THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE whioh was runDina earlier, Railways bave Assam OD Broad Gauge to DEP4.RtMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE eltendcd Mail Gauhati via new Jalpaiauti. In addition a (SHR 1 ~. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) No, faat train is runDiDf between Gauhati Sir. However, Supreme Court bad direc- aDd i 49 Writ/~n An.twers Wrltte n Answers 1 SO

New Delhi via New JaJpaiguri twice a population is eitber diminishing or stag- month for Defence Personnel. nant.

Family Planning Programme TardY in Research in Genetical Engineering Rural Areas 3690. SHRIMATI D.K. RHANDARI : 3689. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI Will the Minister of HEALTH AND Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FA. MILY WELFARE be bleased to state: FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that progr eS9 (a) whether it is a fact that Indian on the crucial family planning programme scientists working in various research has been trady particularly in some States, institutions in the country have developed specially in the rural areas; new innovations in genetIcal engineering Jike vaccin e for populations control, intro- (b) whether it is a fact that in contract duction of nitrogen fixing genes In cereals tribal popu]at ion is dimini~hing ; and and millets and utilising genes in the yeast for the production of alcohol etc. as (c) whether Government would involve reported in the "The Times of India'" organised, professional social institutions dated 18 November, 1985; in this great task and challenge at the earliest and init iate a National debate and a (b) if so, whether Government pro- National Plan to rr:eet the situation? pose to export results of such research and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE earn foreign exchange ; and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and (c) whether these vaccines are now (c) Statement~ showing statewise achiev- available in the country and if so, at ment figures in rural/urhan areas in respect of sterilisation and IUD during the which prices and wherefrom? last two years are placed on the Table of the Hous~. [Placed in Library. See No. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE LT. 1944/85]. Special attention is focus- DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE sed on implementation of the Family

OfBeers' Training for Metro Rail way THE MINISTER OF TRANSpORT Project (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) to (d) The U.N. Convention on Code of Conduct for L ioer 3691. SHRI A viAL DATTA: Will Conferences, 1974, which was ratified by the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased India in 1978 enables participation in to state: freigbt and volume of traffic generated between two countries to the extent of 40 (a) bow many Government officers per cent by each traiding country. This were sent abroad for training in conDec. Convention bas come into force from tion with Metro Railway Project during 6.10.1983. However, in India, it will the Jast three years ; come into force when necessary legislation to implement the same is made. (b) the scope of training for which each such officer was sent abroad and Review of Green Card Scheme where and what training they received including duration of training; 3693. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GAD- AKH PATIL: Wi)) the minister of HEAL- (c) how many officers have since reti. TH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased red or transferred to other railways, with to state: period of their service in Metro Railway subsequent to their return after tra ining (a) whether Government have reviewed abroad; and the working of the Green Card Scheme for coui)l es undergoing sterilisation after (d) amount spent On training of these two children; officers? (b) if so, the results thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (c) the names of the States which MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (d) have not yet adopted the scheme and steps Necessary information is being coli ected tak en towards its accept ance by tbem? and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. THE DEPUrY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE Cargo Support to Indian Ships (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (c) Under the Green Card Schem~, the accep- 3692. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will tb~ tors of sterilisation after two children are Mini-ter of TRANSPORT be pleased to enlilled to preferential treatment in areas state : where it is feaSible, as a mark of recogni- tion. The Central Government has requested all the States/Union Territories to (a) whether It is a fact that according introduce the scheme. However, as per to the U.N. Convention on code of Con- informati ,n a vailabl e with this Ministry, duct for Liner Conferences, 40 per cent the scheme is not Yet intro(tuced in Andhra of the imports can be rightly sought for Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Haryana, Kerala, Ind ian ships ; Maharaahtra. Manipur, Megbalaya, N ... galand, Rajasthan, Sikkim, Tripura, (b) if so, whether Government are We,t Bengal, Goa, Daman & Diu, Laksh- ensuring this much of the minimum cargo dweep, Mizoram and Pondicherry. The for Indian bottoms in all imp),.t aacce- scbeme has not yet been reviewed. ments; Eval.atioD of NatioDal Lepro.y Eradica- (c) if not, the details of cates where tion Programme· excep t ions wer e mad e ; and 3694. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GAD .. (d) the reaSODS for sucb exceptions? AKH PATIL: Will tbo Minister of iS3 Written Allsw,rs AGRABAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer., 154

HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) and (a) whether an eva Iuation has been (b) Thirteen Nature Cure centres in the made of the National Leprosy Eradication. country have been receiving grant-i::·aid Progra!n me ; from the Central Council (or Research in Yoga and Naturopathy, New De]hi. A (b) if so, tn,e resuJ t thereof; and statement showing of tbese centres is given be10w : (c) ~ction taken to repeal the obnoxi- ous Lepers Act, 1898 and to rectify the provision against leprosy patients in other Statement Acts such as Motor Vehicles Act and Hindu Marriage Act? s. Name of tbe Place THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE No. Institute DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) and (b) No, Sir. The incependent evaluation 1. Nature Cure Jaipur of the National Leprosy Eradication Pi 0- Hospital gramme is planned in February, 1986. 2. Prakritik Arogva- Rajgir (c) Leprosy Act, 1898 has been repea- sharm led by the Parliament in respect of Union Territories without ) eg islature. Th eStates 3. S.D. NClture Cure Ambala Cactt. of Maharashtra, W!';st Bengal and Madhya Hospital Pladesb have also repealed this Act. Other States/U.Ts, with legislatures have 4. Kastruba Nature Sbivrampally been requested to repeal their correspon- Cure Hospital ding Lepers Act. As regards Motor V ehic1 c.; Act, the Ministry of Shipping and 5. Sri Cboday Apparow Kakinada TranspJrt bJve constituted a working Prakritik Chikitsa. group to cevi ew the various provision s o~ layam the Motor Vehicles Aet and suggest amen- dments wherever considered ;}ecessary. 6. Prakritik PenamaIuru The legislative Department of the Ministry Ch ik i t sal ay am of Law, Justice & Company Affairs has taken up the mat fer with the State Govern- 7. Kakativa Nature Warrangal ments for obtaining their views on the Cure Hospital proposal "to delete leprosy as one of the 8. Anand Niketan Bareilly ground of the divorce from Hindu Marri- Nature Cur~ age Act, 1985. Hospital

Nature Cure Centres Receiving Grant-in- 9. Shantikutj Prakri- Gopuri Aid from Centr.E: tik Chikitsalayam Wardha

3695. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRA- 10. Rajasthan Prakritik Bikaner HI : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND Ch ikitsa Kendra FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : 11. Nature Cure Jasidib Hospital (a) the number of nature cure centres Yeotmal in the Union Government ;and 12. Kamla Arogya Mandir (b) the names of the centres and the ccntra I ascnc), throuab which aid is beina 13. Nature Cure Jammu 'Yawl Hospital liVID 1 iss Writt,n Amw,rs Wrltt,n Answers i 56

Subsidised air travel for handicapped Setting up of POH sh.op in Perambur

3696. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHA- 3698. SHRI K.S. RAO : Will the VAN: Win the Minister of TRANSPORT MiLister of TRANSpORT be pleased to be pleased to state: state:

(a) whether Government have ever (a) whether it is a fact that the periodical overhauling (POH) shop for eJectric tbought of subsidising the air travel for the engines proposed to be set up in the pur- handicapped and the blind; view of Soutb Central Railways is being diverted to Perambur; and (b) if not, whether there is any such (b) if so, the reasons thereof? proposal at present; and

(.;) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAIL WAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MADHAVRAO SC1NDIA): (a) There is DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION no proposal for setting up periodical over- (SHRI JAG DISH TYTLER) : (a) Govern- hauling work~hop for electric engines on ment have DO scheme for subsidising air Soutb Central Railway. DeveJoping faci· travel for the handicapped. Indian Air- Jities for repairs to electric locos at Peram- line~, however, offers 5 % concessioD in the bur worksbop bas been included in the basic Rupee fares to blind persons and Railway Blldget 1984-85 to cater to re- cancer patients for journeys for treatment quirement of Souther!) Reg ion. on its domestic sectors. (b) Do es not arise.

(b) No, Sir. Decline in railway freight earnings due (c) Does not arise. to diversion of goods traffic to road 3699. SHRJ RAMESHWAR NEEKH. Computerisation in data (oUectioD of RA : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT birth rate and other related matters be pleased to state :

3697. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHA- (a) whether Assam, Nagaland, Mizo- VAN : Will the Minister of HEALTH ram) Arunachal and Maripur States trans- AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to ported their forest product by rail in the state; years 1981 to 1983;

(b) the railway (reight earnings during (a) whether there is a proposa1 to the last three years for the plywood and introduce computerisation in the data co1Je .. timber year-wise and commodity-wise; etion exercises of birth rate and other related matters with a view to updating the (c) wheti"'er the timber traffic bas since information in this respect; and diverted from Rai} 10 road;

(b) if so, the detail, thereof? (d) whether tea, jute, plywood traffic was diverted from rail to road due to non· THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE supply of empty wagons and avoidable DBPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE restrictions imposed by the North Frontier (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR.) (8) and (b) Railways; and Computers are already being utilised in the Ministry for storing data, monitorina (e) if SO; what action is beina taken to and o'la\uatinl lome of the Health and , recapture tbe busincaa by bUwa)'s to in- family Welfare PrOirammcl. crease cacnioll? 157 Writtt1l A.n~we" AGRAHAYANA 21. 1901 (SAKA) Written Anaw.rs 158

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Tel"minal facilities for dealing wjth DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI aU types of loods traffic as well as for MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) (a) : Yes, Sir. P!ecemeal traffic have not Jet been pro- vIded at Guwabati. As such, inward rake' (b) The freight earned during the years loads on1y are beiDg dealt with. As in the 1982-85 from tbis traffic was as under:- return direction traffic in rake loads except tea is not available, outward goods traffic is not being loaded at Guwabati. Year Timber PJywood (Rs. in lakhs) (Rs. in lakhs) (c) The timber traffic to destinations all --.-- -._------...... --.----.-- over India is being carried over Metre ?auge and. Broad Gauge system by arrang- 1882·83 344 41 Ing transhpJment at New Bongaigaon. 1983·84 422 93 Steps to facilitate industrial goods tramc 1984·85 341 153 by rail (c) Yes, Sir, to some extent. 3701. SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKH.. (d) The traffic movin, in piecemeal was RA : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pI eased to stat e : partly diverted on account of encouraging movement in train loads. All restrictions impos·~d were unavoidable. (a) whether Railways have provided the private/public Railway sidings to tbe (e) In order to attract tea and jute Private/Government Undertakings to traffic, station to station rates have been bring their raw material in their industries quoted. To attract additional export tea to manufacture their goods; traffic an Inland Container 0 epot has also been set up at Amingaon (Guwahati). (b) whetber private/public Government Undertakings industries namely cement Conversion of New Bongaigaon Gaubati steel pJants etc. are despatching thei; Line finished product/goods by road instead of Ran rail; 3700. SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKH· RA: Will the Ivfinister of TRANSPORT (c) the reasons as to why the railways be pleased to.stafe : have not changed their rules suitably so as to enable these industries to transport (a) whetber Railways have already their finished good~ by rail when rai1ways spent approximately Rs. 50 erore~ for con- bring their raw material up to their works; version of met er gauge railway track into and broad gauge between New Bongaigaon and Oaubati ; (d) whether it is proposed to have period i cal meetings between private indus- (b) whether it is a fact that goods tra.. try owners, General Managers of the ffic i~ not permitt ed by broad gauge exc..!pt Government undertakings and Railway for tea from Gaubafi; and Board Officers to ensure close liaison in the matter with a view to boost Boods (c) jf so, the reasons for not carrying traffic by rail? timber traffic to a11 over India in order to earn .Rs. 10 lakhs per day as Railway THE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE freight from Gauhati1 DBPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS

finished products, a rebate in siding char- (b) if so, the details thereof; an'd les ranting from 30% to 50% is allowed for additiona1 outward traffic for certain (c) if not, by what time it is proposed commodities moved by rail during 1985·86 to make these airstrips fit for Jandinll of compared to the previous year. Boeing Aircrafts there?

(d) Such meetings ar e already being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB held. DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) and (b) Legislation to regulate mushroom growth There is no plan to expand the airstrip at of opticians Pantnagar, but at Dehradun the existing runway is proposed to be extended and an 3702. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the associated taxi-track, apron and terminal Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- compl ex are likely to be constructed in the FARE be pleased to state: Seventh Five Year Plan.

(a) whether it is a fact that there is no (c) There is no plan fo upgrade these Jaw to prevellt unqualified dispen~in, opti· airports for Boeing operatjon~ in the cians rendering optha lmologist ex~rt opini- Seventh Five Year Plan. on by prescribing number of spectacles;

(b) whether it is also a fact that Dfclarin~ some UniversiUes as Institutions wrongly diagnosed eye sight number or use of National Importance of unsuitable ,glasses creates serious pr~ blems, lite bad temper, headache, abdoml- 3704. SHRI BHOLANATH SEN: Dal pain, erratic mood etc.; and Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOU. RCE DEVELOPMENT be pI eased to state: (c) whether Government propose to bring forward suitable legislation to reg]· (a) whether Government have received late mushroom growth of opticians? suggestion(s) for dec1aring some universities as institutions of national importance ; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DBPARTMENT OF FAMr:_~Y WELFARE

(a) whether there j4) any scheme to 3705. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER ex.pand the· existiDI airstrips in Plntnagar JAIN : Will the Minist er of TRANSPORT and Doiwala (Dehradun): be pleased to state : AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) Wrht~n AlIIW'8 t 6 2

(a) the progres, made so far in res-pect project estimates on Goda vari Del t a of the survey work for laying railway line Modernisatjon Scheme at an estimated between Bi las and Bar in Rajasthan cost of Rs. 3S,) crores recently in Octo- state ; ber, 198 S for techno-economic clearance by the Central Water Commission. (b) the time by which work on .the proposed fine is like ly to be started The modernisation proposa]s envisage and remodelling of the existing canal sections, lining, construction of additjonal regulators (c) whether it will be completed in the and structures, repairs to existing structur- Seventh Five Year Plan? es'l COTljuctive use of surface and ground waters etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE (N THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Widening of Roads in Ansntapnr, Andhra MADHA VRAO SCINDIA): (a) Survey Pradesh has been completed for rail line from BHara {not Bitas} to Bar. 3707. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (b) and (c) As per the survey report, be pleased to state: this line will not be financia11y remunerative. In view of severe constraint of re- (a) whether Government are aware Sources and h ea vy comm itments aIr eady about the necessity of widening the road on hand, it is not propol)ed to take up without strengthening Nation a 1 Highway construction of this line at present. No.7, K.M. 95/5 to 115.5 Anantapur- Banga lore Road (from Raptadu to Naga. samudram Gate) ard widen jng the road, Modernisation of Irrigation in Krishna- National Highway No .. 7, K.M. 417 to Godavari Delta Areas 421 (near Penukonda-Anjaneyaswami TempJe curve) in AJ1antapur~ Andbra Pra- 3706. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA desh ; and REDDY: Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES be p)ea~ed to state: (b) if so, whether Go vernment propose to take up this work and complete it ex- (a) whether the Andhra pradesh Gove- p editious ]y? rnment has submitted Reports or schemes for modernisation of irrigation in Krishna THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT and Godavari Delta areas to the Central (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) and (b) The Water Commission for c~earancc; Hon'bJe Member perhaps is referring to the section of the National Highway No.7 (b) if so, whether the Central Water b:tween Km. 363.140 to 395.00 and Commission bas considered these proposals Km. 417 to 421 with Km. 0 at Hydera- favourably; and bad. Out of these two sections widenin, of tbe road without strengthening between (c) what is the modernisation that is Km. 363.140 to 379.00 only finds pl!Jce contemplated by the Andhra Pradesh in the current budget. Accordingly, this Government in this regard? work is lile ely to be taken up in near future. The remaining kilometers wi)) be THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- considered for widening in due COurse URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND) : depending upon the inter-se priority aDd (8) to (c) Andhra Pradesh Government availability of funds. has lent the Project Report on modernisation of Krishna Delta system at an esti- Fleet of Sbips for Handling Foreign mated cost of Rs. 220.42 crores in April, Trade 1983. Central Wat er Commission bas sent certain comments to the Stat e Gov- 3708. SHRI V. TULSJRAM: Will ernment for clariticatioD. The Stat e the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleaseQ GovCfnIDCnt bas also sent the updated to state: 163 Wrltl." An,.,." DBCBMBBR 12. ItlS

(a) t he total number of ships with the (a) whetb'er Government have received Shipping Corporation of India and other the report of the Major Ports Adminiltra- navigation companies handling Indian tive Reforms Committee; trade; (b) If SO, the details of the main re- (b) whether more than 80 per cent of commendations of tbe Committee and when Indian for eign trade is bandIed by foreian the recommendations are expected to be .hips : implemented;

(c) if Sat the names of tbe countries (c) the division of present administra- whose ships are used for the purpose, tion proposed by the Committee and the and trade handl ed by each country annu- extent to which these recommendations ally and, during the last three years; will improve tbe working/functions of the potts; and (d) what steps are being taken by Government to increase the fleet in India (d) the number of ports to be affected for the purpose by building/purchasing of as a result thereof and how many major/ ships; and medium and small porfs to be affected in Andhra Prad esh? (e) jf ~o, 'the details thereof and if not, reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (SHRI BANSI LAU: (a) to (c) The THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT 1\tajor Portl Administrative Reforms (SI-IRI BANS! LAL): Visakhapatnam port in Andhra Pradesh. Indian ports, ships of different nationalities No minor or intermediate port wil) be have been chartered for purpose of foreign affected as the terms of reference of tbe trade depending on commercial considera- Commit!ee do not concern such ports. tions.

Shortage of Covered Wagons (d) and (e) Shipping Development Fund Committee (SDFC) advances Joans 3710. SHRI A.J.V.B. MEHESWARA at concessional rafe of interest to Indian RAO : Will the Minister of TRANSPf)RT shipping compani es for acquisition of be pI eased to state: vessels Deeded for c~rria,e of Indian trade. SDFC also gives loans to Indian (a) whether be is aware that the tranB- shipping companies to the extcnt of 9S per portation of Rice from Rajahmundry and cent of the cost of vesscls built by Indian Tadepallingudem to Kerala (Export quality) shipyards. The installed shipbuilding is less comparinl to previous yeats due to capacity of the public sector shipyards is lack of co'Verd wagons ; also being enbanced. (b) whether tbe un-covered _,ons Recommendation of Major Port Aclaaiais- which are available for the transportation trative Reforms COlDDlittee of rice to be coverd (by Tarpalins) by tbe Mill owners at their own coat ; 3709. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will and the Minister of TRANSPORT be ,leued ,0 state: (e) if '0, tbe reasons wby tbe Railwa78 AGRAHAYANA 21-, 1907 (SAKA) Written AlI8w,rs 166

are not in a position to suptJIy the security THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE materials by which they could get more DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI revenue due to transportation? MADHAVRAO SCINDIA); (a) Yes, Sir; THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DBPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) No, Sir. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) The demand for w~gons for movement of rice (c) Does not arise. from Rajahmundry and Tadepalligudem to (b) Jr,structions already exist in this Kerala IS beiDI met in full. The variation in loading is not on account of position of regard. wagon supply. [English] (b) Yes, Sir. AfterEffects orVasectomy and Tubectomy (c) It is a mutually agreed system Operations whereby consi..;nors use their tarpaulins for covering Open wagons loaded with 3712. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : rice on trade account·· This helpsr ailways Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAM .. to conserve their tarp.ulir s for use for ILY WELFARE be pleased to state: such commodities as ~njoy a higher priority and have to be moved in open wogons (a) wbetber there have been deaths and when covered wagons are not easily avai· cases of suffering from after effects of lable. vasectomy and tubectomy opera;.iolJs and if so, details of the same States (lnd Union [Translali o"J Territories-wise and year-wise during the last three years as well as the amount pa id compensation; Special Trains for Religious Fair in as and Rajasthan (b) whether the Seventh Pbn eD\'itages a tr ipling of budget allocat ions and bas 3711. SHRL BANWARI LAL BAIR· set a -target of 42 per cent ccuple WA : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT protection with 31 million stcrjlisations be pleased ta state: and if so, what effective ~teps ha\e been taken by Government to avoid sufferings (a) whether it is a fact that special of the volunteering public from deaths trains are run by the Railway every year sickness? in tbe month of September-October when . RamJev Ji's fair in Ramdevra (Rajasthan) is held; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (b) if so, whether it is also a fact (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) On that necessary convenience like drinking an average durin6 the last 3 years, OVer 4 wat er, lighting, toil ets etc. are not adequ- million stedlisation operations have ~et'n ate in tnose special trains and tbat it is perfom ed in a year. Some c~s es of fata- necessary to increase the number of loch l ity or complications have come to notice. special tralUS in VI ew of the large number Sueh cases are attended to with maximum of passengers loing to tbat place ; sympathy and promptitude. To instil a sense of confidence among fa mily weJfare (c) if so, the steps which Government acceptors and the genetal public, an ex- propose to tak e in this regard ; and ,ratia amount of Rs. 5000/.. used to be paid to the legal heir of the deceased upto (d) the step3 prl)p.)~ed to be taken to the end of December, 1984, which' has provide adequate raciJitics and ensuring now been ,raised to Rs. 10,000/. from the cleanliness a t Jodhpur and other railway beainning of 1985. station for convenience 01 passuaefS 01 thOle trains? A Itatemont showio& Statewise D1.!lUbr' 161 fFrillen Answers DECEMBER 12. 1985 Written Answers . 168

of deaths after sterilization operations (3) The pre-operative checks and dW'ing the years 1982·83, 1983-84 post-operative care have been emphasised. aDd 1984·85 is gIven below. (4) More emphasis has been laid on (b) The Planning Commission has training and retraining of medical and allocated an amount of Rs. 3256 crores para-medical staff engaged in sterilisation for the Lnplementation of the Family operation from time to time. Welfare Programme during the 7tb Plan against Rs. 1392 crores (Provisional) spent (5) in tbe last Plan. It envisage~ a goal of Detailed guidelines on sterilisation 42 per cent couple protection rate with operation which includes selection of 31 million sterilisations. cases, technical procedure for conducting the operations, pre-operative checks. post. The following steps have been taken operative care, hospital stay etc. have been to minimise complications and death rate circulated to the States.. These guideJines after steriJi5ation operat ions : are reviewed from time to time.

(1) Laparascopic Operations are to be (6) Experts Teams have been consti- performed by trained team led by a Sur- tuted to oversee the Programme implemen- geon/Gynaecologist. tation in the various States. Remedical

(2) Operations are to be conducted actions are taken on the basis of their uDder proper sanitary cond it ions. reports.

Statement

s. No. Name of the State/UT 1982-83 1983·84 1984·85 Vas. Tub. Vas. Tub. Vas. Tub• ...... __..--a-. _____~ __ ------..._.----- 1. Andhra Pradesh 33 47 1 25

2. Assam 4 4

3. Bihar NR NR NR NR NR NR

4. Gujarat 2 39 3 34 2 23

5. Haryana 2 S 7 12

6. Himachal Pradesh 6 7 4 7. J.&K.

8. Karnataka NR NR NR NR 37

9. KeraJa 9 1 17 6

10, Madhya Pradesh 2 38 1 17 1 30

11. Maharaah tra 9 45 7 S6 5 34

12. Manipur NR NR NR NR NR Nk 1 J. Me&halaya - 169 Written An,sw,rs AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907

1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8

14. Nagaland NR NR NR NR

15. Orissa 28 35 30

16. Pun~ab 21 1 14 16

17. Rajasthan 21 1 27 19

18. Sikkim

19. Tamil Nadu 3 61 1 66 53

20. Trip'Jra

21. Utter Pradesh 39 1 39 2 38

22. \Vest Bengal 19 23 1 29

23. A. & N. Islands

24. Arunachal Pradesh

25. Chandigarh

26. D. & N. Havelt

27. Delhi 3 NR NR 3

28. Goa,'Daman & Diu 1

29. Lakshadwcep

30. Mizoram

31. Pondicherry 2 1 NR NR

- ...... _~---._.,."._._---~------

ALL INDIA 18 375 16 394 12 363

Death rate per 1,000 sterilisation 0.03 0.11 0.02 0.10 0.02 0.10 ------...... ------._-...... --..~._.__..._

Note: NR Not received

Nil

Vas Va,ectomy

Tub Tubectom1 DscsMBtk 12, 1985 Written Answers 172

Conversion of Dedi Railway Siding been no request from Government of Gujarat to extend the private Railway 3713. SHRI D.P. JADEJA: Will the siding from Hazira Kribhco to Hazira Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Port. state:

(a) the reasons for not ccmpleting the (b) and (c) Do not arise. conversion of the Bedi (Jam nagar) Railways Sidiog from M.G. to B.G. line; Release of grants and other funds to Gujarat under N .M.E.P. (b) whether the railways are aware of the great congestion due to this delay; 3715. SHRI D.P. JADEJA : WiH the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (c) the steps being taken to complete WELFARE be pleased to state ~ this conversion; and

(d) the approximate time of comple- (a) whether certain nlatching grants tion? and other funds hlve yet to be released to Gujarat under th e Nation31 Malaria THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Er~diction Programme; DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) to Cd) (b) the reasons for the deJay in releas- Conversion of sidings from M.O. to B.G. ing the assured funds; and at Dedi Port is not an approved work. (c) whether Government will Ieirnburse Tbe Western Railways is, however. 100 % of th e cost of purchase of mala- examining the problem, if any, in cOilsul ta- thion for use in N.M.E.P. in Gujarat? tion with the concerned State Govt. authorities. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Facilities; however, already eXlst for DEPARTMENT ()F FAMILY WELFARE dealing with the Port traffic, at Windmill

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) whether any strict control bas been DEPARTMENT OF R.AILWAYS (SRaI imtituted on tbe bi&h pricea of homoco M \!)'-{:\V&AO SCfNDIA: (a) TheR hal patblc mcd~iDOs; 173 Writt,,, AIISwe" AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907

(b) whether Government are aware of (c) whether it is also a (ac. that the the increasing popularity of Homoeopatby; Bank has already offered credit for tbe transportation of coal for the Muradnagar (c) the details of checks and controls super thermal station; 00 the quality and price of homoeopathic medicines presently in force; and (d) whether the Railways have alreadY submitted the Project Report for coal (d) the funds a110tted fo: homoeopathy movement to World Bank; for 1985-86? (e) if so, to what extent they have THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE accepted; and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Ho- (f) how much assistance wiJl be pro- moe )path ic med icines are not covered vided by the World Bank? u'lder the Drugs Price Control Order, 1979. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) Yes, Sir. MADHA VRAO SC1NLIA) : (a) No, Sir.

(c) Manufacture and sale of Homoeo- (b) One of the Bank missions had dis- pathic medicines is controolcd and regula- cussed the possible future involvement of ted under the provisions of the Drugs and the Bank in. a project whose objective Cosmetics Act \ 1940 and the Drugs and would be tbe improvement of the overa)] Cosmetics Rules are granted Licenses to efficiency of Indian Railways in moving manufacture Homoeopathic tnedcines are commodities including coal. granted by the Licen~ing Authority appointed by the respective State Gvvernments. (c) No, Sir. Drug Inspectors appointed under the Drugs and Cosmettcs Act are empower ed to draw (d) No, Sir. samples for test and send these to Govern- ment Ana\y~ts appointed under the Act (e) and (f) Does not arise. for t est and report. Making "Swagae' magazine purposefa) (d) Rs. 186.66 lakhs heve been allotted in the Budget Estimates for 1985·86 3718. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: in the Central Sector for Homoeopathy WiJJ the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- System of medicines. sed to state;

Transportation of coal to Muradnagar (a) whether it is a fact that the infti&ht magazine "Swagat" (English Version) is super thermal station not printed by using Indian indigenous printing technology; 3717. SHRI B.V. DeSAI : Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to (b) whether it is also a fact that this stale: magazin e did not contain tourism details such as places of tourists importance, (a) whelher it is a fact that the World history of the place, entrance fees, tourists Bank has offered credit to the Indian Rail. sports, road maps, hotal facilities, etc; and ways for developing additional capabilities (c) if so, what st~ps are being tak.en to for moving coal; make this magazine more purposeful and a very useful commercia1 guide to the (b) whether the bank: had its meetings tourists? duriog Sep: ember and bad suggested that Railway should prepare a project report THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for coal mOlfement which the blOk might DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION finance; (SRRI JAGDISH TYTLER) : (a) Tbo 175 Written Anlwr, DECEMBER 12,·1985

phototype setting of the magazine is done THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in India and colour processing and prin- DEPARTMENT OF eVIL AVIATION ting are carried out in Honlkona_

(b) Articies have been published on (b) Yes, Sir. A proposal for the cons- tourism; history etc. and with a route map truction of a new airport or, alternatively, of Indian Airlines. a new runway near the existing site is under consideration. In the meanwhile. (c) Does not arise. the ex isting facilities are being improved! upgraded. Project preventing ~a erosion aloog the coast or Karn8 taka Opening of CGHS Dispensaries Under Homoeopafhic System of Medicines 3719. SHRT V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of WATER RESOURCES 3721. SHRI ANADI CHARAN h~ pleased to state: DAS : Will the Ministel of HEALTH (a) whether Karnataka Government AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state : had prepaled a Rs. ] 50 crores project for preventing sea erosion along the coast in (a) whether Homoeopathy is becoming Daksbina and Urfar Kannada Districts in increasingly popuJar in our country; Karnataka and sent to Union Government for approvrJ; and (b) if so, the st eps taken by Govern- ment to popuJarise this system of medicine (b) if so, whether the Union G~vern in Tural areas; and ment propose to give its approval wuhout further deJay so that the State Government may take up this project immediately? (c) the Dumber of homoeopathic dis- pens~ries functioning in the country THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU- under CGHS and the number of such dis- RCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND ; (a) pen~aries to be opened particular ly in Delhi under CGHS ? and (b) A proposal entitled as 'Coastal erosion in Karnataka Master Plan-Octo. ber 1985~ has been received from the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Government of Karnataka recently, and DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE it is estimated to cost Rs. 150 crores. (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Yes, Individual schemes under this Plan are to Sir. be prepar ed and taken UP for execution by tbe State Government as per the approved (b) Keeping in view the emphasis procedure. placed OD the promotion of Indian System of Medicine &. Homoeopathy and in- Expaasion of Mangalore Airp ort clusion of the fundamentals of these systems in the training curricuJum of the 3720. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Village Health Guides, the State Govern- Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea .. ments have the option to appoint the led to stat e : third doctor in tbe Primar) Health Centre from any system of Medicine includina (a) how many flights arrive Mania lor e Indian System of Medicine and Homo eo. every day; and pathy based 00 the requirements of the people. Further, the Jist of Medicines drawn up by the Ministry of Health for the (b) in view of the fact that Mangalore kits to be provided to tbe Village Healtb is an important industrial and busines~ Guides for common ailments also include centr e in Karoatata, whether Government Homoeopathic medicines. propose to consider for expansion of Mansalor~ A. irport pJaD? (c) At present 30 Homoeopat.bie AGRAHAYANA 21, 1901 (S.t4,KA) Wrlttln duwer, 178

Dispensaries!U:nits are funCtionina in the tively with tbe system of capitation fee; country under COHS of which 3 Homoea- and path ic Dispensaries and 9 Units are fuo- ctioning under CGHS, DeJhi. S Homoeo· (b) if so, the details thereof? patby Units arc proposed to be opened under the COHS during the Seventh Plan THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of which 1 will be in Delhi. DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Yes, Sir. UGC Scbeme for Spotting Seleoce Talent (b) The proposed legislation wIll take into consideration the need for regulating 3722. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN the establishment of new medical colleges SINHA: Win the Mioister of HUMAN in any State and also of the fees to be RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased cbarged from, or in relation to, students to state: of medical co]) eges, banning of capitation fe es and regula t ion of th e admission strength of medical colleges. (a) whether University Grants Com- mission bas implemented any special scheme for spotting science talent and Setting up of l\ledical Grant Commi- fostering it ; and ssion on tbe Pattern of U.G.C.

(b) if so, details thereof? 3724. PROF. P.J. KURIEN : Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE WELFARE be pleased to stilte : DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA RO- (a) whether there is any proposal to HATGI) : (a) and (b) No, Sir. However, set up a Medical Grants Commission on the UGC has initiated a scheme of scho- the pattern of )he Un iversity Grants Com- larships in 1983.84 to science students. mission; and Under the scheme, 100 scholarships of the value of Rs. 200 per month with an (b) if so, the details thereof? annual book grant of Rs. 300 are awarded. These scholarships are aw~rded to those THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE students, on the basis of merit in the DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND National Talent Search Examination con- FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI S. KRISHNA ducted by the NCERT, but who were not KUMAR): (a) No, Sir. abl e to get scholarships from NCER T. These scholarships are awarded only to those students joining courses in Physical, (b) Does not arise. Biological, Earth and Methematical Scien- ces. ( Translation]

Proposal to Amend Indian Medical Provision to keep open level crossiDg CODDeil Act to Regulate Growth No.9 at Makrea Station (Ajmer) of Private Medical Colleges and Capitation Fee 3725. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Wi} the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased 3123. PROF. P.l. KURIEN: Will to state: the Minister of HEALTH AMD FAMILY WELFARE be pIe ased to state : (a) whether it is a fact that Govern- ment have received a memorandum iD (a) whether there is any proposal to relard to tbe appointment of a person for amend tho Indian MedlcaJ Council Act leeeping open the leveJ crossin, No. 9 for 1956 to reau1atc the arowtb of Private 24 hours at lVIakreda $tatioD, Ajmer, Medical CoHOlcS as well as to deal eftec- Western Railways ; t 79 t¥rlttlJn A"stHrl DBCBMBBR 12, 1985

(b) if so. whether Government have fication of Kota·Blroda h estimated to be re.:ommended that this matter be included about Rs. 147 crores. among the Railway safety works to be undertaken in future; [English]

(c) jf so, the action being taken by Government for the appointment of a Posts or Teachers in A and N Islands person for this I eve) crossing for keeping it open for 24 hours; and 3727. SARI MANORANJAN BHA.. KTA : Will the tv1inister of HUMAN (d) if no action is. being taken the RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: reasons therefor ?

(a) whether Government received a THE ~fINISTER OF STATE IN THE representation for cre,: tion of posts of DEPART~1ENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADH-\VRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, teachers in ADdaman and Nicobar Islands, if so, whether the proposals were received Sir. and action taken on them ; (b) No, Sir. (b) whether Government are aware (c) Does not arise. that most of the schools in Andaman and Nicob(\r Islands are running understaffed which hac; badly affected studies of the (d) The gate is already manned the stud ents ; and during day and kept closed during n igbt for opening by station staff on demand from road traffic. The road traffic at the (<<;) if so, the act ion Government con ]eve) croSs ing at r. ight does not justify the template to take? posting of 3. gatekeeper at night. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Elecrification of Kota·Baroda Rail- DEPARTMFNTS OF EDUCATION AND 'ft'ay Line CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA .. TGI) : (a) to (c) Proposals were received 3726. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHU- from Andaman and Nicobar Administration RIA: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT for cr eation of various posts in schoo1s, be pleased to state: in relaxation of ban orders. Sanction for creation of po~ts has a'ready been issued (a) whether tbe electrification work of on 3rd December, 1985. Kota-B.lroda rai:way iine h_s been completed : Vacant Posts of Speclalisits in G.B. Pant and Other Hospitals in (b) if not, by what time it is likely to A and N I!llands be completed; and 3728. SHRI MANORANJAN BHA. (c) t'le r.mount of expenditure JilCely KTA : Will the Minister of HEALTH to be incurred thereon? AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to stare : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) whether the posts of a number MADHAVRAO SCINDIAl: (a) and (b) of specialists in the G.B. Pant and other No, Sir. Out of Kota-Baroda Section, hospitals in A and N IsJJDds are JyiDI Dahod·Baroda has already been brought vacant for a considerable period parti- under electric traction. The remalD1DI cularly those of Surgeon and Eye Specia- section between Kota and Dahod is expec- Jist ; and ted to be completed duriDI 1986-87. (b) jf so, what action bas been takeD (c) The proportionate COlt on oJectri. to fill tbese vacancies? i 8 t Written Anlw.rs AGRAHAYANA ii, 1907 (SAKA) Written A 1l3WerS 182

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether there is any.proposal to DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE set up inland container depots; and (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) Against the nine sanctioned eRg posts of (b) if so, the pJaces selected thereof? SpeciaJist (Rs. 1100. J 800) for Andaman and Nicobar Administration, th e posts of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Surgical and Medical Specialists are lying DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI vacant since August, 1985 and September, MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) = (a) and (b) 1981 resPectively. There is no post of The Indian Railways have alreadY set up Eye Specialist (Rs. 1 J 00 .. 1800) in the lnland CO:1tainer Depots at Bangalore. CHS for the Administration. Guntor, Anaparti, Coimbatore, New Delhi and Amingaon. It is proposed to under- (b) The offer of appointment to the take a feasibility study to identify the post of Surgical Specialist has been issued pOJsibJe locations where more such con- and the acceptanc~ of the UPSC nominee tainer depots could be established in the is awaited. The nominees recommended country jn future. by tbe UPSC from time to time for the po~t of Medical Specialist bave not Daily Running of Ganga.. Kavrrj Fxpress joined the post. The po"t has again been referred to the UPSC for recommending the 3731. SHRI AlA Y MUSHRAN : \Vill name of a fresh candidate. the Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Computer Programme in Schools in Seventh Plan (a) whe~her Government are consi- 3729. PROF. K V. THOMAS: Will dering any propostll for running the Ganga- Kaveri Express daily; the Minister of HU~1A~ RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be ple..tsed to state: (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and (a) number of schools in Indi~ which (c) whether Government propo~e to will be covered by the computer progra- attach a 3 tier II class coach to this Ex.. mme at lhc end of Sevenlh Plan; and press ex-Jabalpur to Trivandrum twice a week '1 (b) the reaction of the students and teachers to the computer programme? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS

(a) whether Government prOpose to During the Seventh Plan, It is pro- start imparting sex education, population posed 'to expand this programme at the education and family planning education at school level in Classes XI & XII and also . the School, college and university l~vel to into the Adult Education, University and cut down fear and hesitation on Ie" mat- Non.Formal Sectors. Curriculum for Adult ters among young children ; and Education inter alia includes population education, health care, hygiene, nutrition and awareness on family planning. (b) if so, the details thereof?

[ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Extension of Platform of U ntarl Railway CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- Station (Eastern Railway) TOI):

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) the reasons for c:ancefJation of the DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE stoppage of Dehradun Express at Murad- SHRI S. KRISHNA KU.WAR) : (a) and (b) nagar Stat ion ; Government of India's clearance has been (b) whether it is also a fact that even conveyed to tbe holding of tbe following in respect of ot her trains also tbis stoppage cO!lferences :- has been cancell ed ; (i) The Second Bienni(tl Conference (c) whether any replesentation has of th e Indian Soci ety of Oncology been received from the pubHc as well as which will be held at Bombay in defence installations Manager at Murad- February, 1986 in which interna- nagar in this regard; tional experts are expecte~ to part ici pa tee (d) whelher he' is aware that these cancellations are causing a Jot of problems (ii) The UICe (International Union for commuters to and fronl Delhi; and Against Cancer) Internlttonal Cancer Conference to be beld in (e) if so, whether he proposes to consi· New Delhi in 199·0 by the Tata der restoration of the stoppages of these Memorial Centre, Bombay in trains at Muradnagar immediate Jy and which international delegates provide· stoppa~e of Shalimar Express and would be participating. Frontier Mail also at Muradnagar ?

Another proposal for inviting the \Vorld THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN lHE Federation of Cancer Care to hold their DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI intema tiona 1 conference in Iudia in 1988 MADHAVRAO SCINDIA); (a) to (e) has been received by Government of India The stoppage was withdrawn in order to from the West Bengal CanCer Society for speed up the train. However, the stoppage clearance. has been restored with effect from 1.12.85 io view of the public demand. The stop- Helicopter Service beht'een Madurai and page of Shalimar Express and Frontier Rameswaram Mail is not feasible at present.

3737. DR. V. RAJESWARAN: Will Dumping of Unsafe Contraceptives iu the Minister of TRANSPORT be p~eased India by Western Countries to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal to 3739. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL have helicopter service belween Madurai Will the Minister of HEALTH AND and R ameswaram using the helipad at FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to Rameswaram in Tamilnadu ; and state :

(b) if so, when it will start operating (a) whether Government 's attention and details thereof? has been drawn to the news item appearing in 'Hindusthan Times' dated 22 Nov- TH~ MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE ember, 1985 statin~ that the Western DEPAR"tMENT OF CI\ IL AVIATION: Countries are dumping in India Contracep- (SHRI JAGDISH lYTLER): (a) and (b) tives \\Ihicb are not at all safe; At present tbere is no sucb proposal. (b) ;r 10, how many such Companies Stop,qe of Espress Tram at Ma.... gar are marketing Contracept ives in India ; Station and

3738. SHRl JAI PRAKASH AGAR- (c) whether Government have tested WAL: WiJl the MiDiater of TRANSPOR.T tte efficacy of such Pfodu"ts aod if 10, be pi ealcd to ltate : th. findina'? 18 t Wrltt,n .41UW"S AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (S.4KA)

THE ·DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE impart special training to teachers in order DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE to promote rural education; and (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (a) to Cc) Yes Sir. The said article refers to the (b) what, if any, assistanc e is expected safety aspects of various methods of contr- from the United Nations Educational aception. Norma l1y when any new cont- Scient dic and Cultural Organisation in the raceptive is to be introduced in the country, matter of promoting rural education? all the relevant pre-cHniea) toxicological data in animals is considered carefu1Jy by 1 HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe Drugs Controll er of India before it DEPARTNENTS OF EDUCATION AND can be permitted for cl inical trials on CULTURE (5HRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- human beings. The clin~cal evaluation ATGI) : (a) There is· extencive arrange- egarding the safety and efficacy of all ment for training of teachers in tbe coun .. rontraceptive devices are undertaken by try. The Government is pJoposing to the Indian Council of Medical Research streng1hen prf'-~ervice and in-service train- before the,e are permitt ed to be marketed ing arrangements so that teacher compete- in the country. nce and motivation in various fields can be improved further. However, there is According to information available, no proposal to have special or separate seven COl lpanies are marketing oral cont .. training course for rural education, racepti\'e !lills !n India. (b) No assistance for such a purpose Non-Resident Indians to Help Shipping is expected from the UNESCO as India Industry has the needed e){pertise i'1 all fields of teacher training required. 3740. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHAKTAWAT: Reno,ation of Calicot, QuiJandi, Badagara, SHRI RADHAKANTA DI .. Teni cberry and Cannanore Railway GAL: Stations in Palghat Railway Division

Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be 3742. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- pleased to stat e : CHANDRAN: \ViII the Minister of TRANSpORT be pleased to state: (a) wheth er non-reside'lt Indians are being at'racted to tide over the financial crisis faced by the shipping industry: (a) whether any renovation, modifica- and tion or improvement ha Ie been made durina the last one year at Cal icut, Quilandi, (b) if so, the details thereof and the Bada&ara, Tellicherry and Cannanore Rail· response of the non-resident Indians ther- way Stations in Palghat Railway Divi. sion ; eto '1

THE MINISfER OF TRANSPORT (b) if so, the details tbereo f ; and (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) and (b) Govern- ment eto not have before it any proposals (c) whether any furt her improvements from non-resident IndIans in this regard. are intended to be made at any of the above stations, if; so, details thereof? Teachers' Tra ining to Promo te Rural Education THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3741. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of HU- MADHA VRAO SCINDIA): (8) and (b) MAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be The following improvement works have been pleased to state: completed during the last one year at tbese (a) wbethor Government inten4 to stations : DECEMBER 12. Ig85

COST Rs.

I. CALICUT:

Conversion of Vendon' Room into 2nd Class Waiting Room and provision of a toilet at Platform No.2, provision of a reservation complex aDd provision of wator cooler. 3.1S lakhs

II. TELLICHERRY :

Improvement to 2Dd Class WaitiDg Room and bookin8 counter and provision of aditdional booking counter. 0.55 lakhs

III. CANNANORE :

Provision of isJand platform with foot-over-bridge, additional water hydrants, provision of ground level hydrants for carnale wat erinl and proviSion of 20 metre )008 passen£er shelter on isJand platform 9.02 lakhs

The following works are also sanctioned/in progress at these stations:

I. CALICUT:

Pro\'ision of emergency lighting arrangement and improvtmcnts to the ligbtiol arrangements in circulating area, improvement to existing goods shed and provision of additional 80ods-sbed facilities, provision of 17 metre lona shelter on new Platform No.2. 17.00 laths

II. QUILANDI :

Extension of the platform and improvement to the station building. 1.341akba

III. BADAGARA :

Improvement to ltation buildinl, provision of island platform and foot-over.bridle, provision of facilities for block rlke UDloadiDa. II,OS lakhs

IV. TELLICHERRY:

Provision or facilities for block rake unloadinl. 0.94 lath.

V. CANNANORE :

Provision of water coolor aDd lilhtinl arranaementa ID the circulatiDI area. 0.72 lakbs

(c) Yes, the followlill worts have beeD identified tor inclulioD In future year. Bud- pt subject to avaiJabilil1 or foods: · 193 A'rlllln AnStl1'fJ AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907!

I. CALICUT: COST Ra.

(i) Conversion of eGCisting over-bead water filling arrangement into side filHng arranlCment. 3 .. 2S lakhe

(ji) Provision of additional ceiling fans in the covel ed platform shel ter. 0.10 lakhl

U. TBLLICHEREY :

{j} Provision of retiring room and dormitory ror 6 beds. 1.5 lath.

(it) Pro~isjon of canopy in front of station building to improve the facade. 1.00 laths

III. CANNANORE :

(i) Conversion of existing over-bead water filJina arrangement into side filling arrangement. 2.501alehs (ii) Provision of additional ceiling fans in the covered platform shelter. 0.101akh.

Construed on of Railway over-bridges in 2. Road over bridge ot Mulagunatb- Kerale ukavu (Trichur).

3744. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN : 3. Road over bridge between Wadat- Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be kancherry and Mulalunathu)"avu. pleased to state ~ 4. Road over bridge between Kotta. (a) the prior ity list recommended by yam and Cbingavanam. Kerala Government for construction of Railway over'" bridges during 1985·86 and 5. Road over bridg~ between Sbora- 1986 .. 87 in KeraJa ; our and Vettikattiri stations (VaUathoJ Nagar). (b) number of such projects heiDI taken up in 1985·86 aod stage of execu· 6. Road over bridge near CaDDanorc tion ; and station.

(c) whether Railway over.. bridaes 00 The works recommended by the Govern. tbe National Highways in Kera1a will get ment of Kera)a for inclusion in the Works aDY special allotments? .Programme 1986·87 :

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1. Road over bridge between OHur DBPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI and PUdukka d. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Tbe works recommended by the Government 2. Road over bridge at Tellicherry. of Korala for inclusion in tbe Works Pro- 3. Road over bridge between Kala- gramme 1985-86 are al foHows : mancherry and Bdappally.

1. Road over bridae OD Fran~is 4. Road over bridge at Palahat on Road at Calicut. 9td National Hi.bway. t 95 Writrln Answ.rs DECEMBER 12, 1985

s. Road over bridge between Tripu... 8. Road over bridge near Chirayan• nithura and Mulantburuthy. kiJ Railway Station.

6. Road over bridge between Trichur a~d Ollur on N edupu':tha Road. (b) The following 4 works of road over/under bridges in replaeement of 7. Road over bridge between MuUnr- exist ing 1ev € 1 ('ro~~ing are in pro8re~s in kara and Wadakkancberry on Tr ichur-Shoranur Road. 1985·86 :

S. No. Particulars of work Progress

1. Road over bridge at Km. 3/1·2 in The progress of the bridge (Rai Iways) lieu of existing le"el cros~in~ at Km. portion of the work is 47%, The State 3/2-3 near VaJlathoJ Nagar. Government are to take up the work on approaches.

2. Road up.der bridge at Km. 753/6-7 The progress of the work on the bridge in Ii eu of existing level crossing (Railways) porijon i~ 18 %; The earth (Tbavakara Road) at Cannanore. work for approaches by the State Govern- ment is in progress.

3. Road over bridge in lieu of existing The general arrangement drawings and level crossing on Francis Road at estimates are under finaIil:ation in consul- Km. 664/1 .. 2 at Calieut. tation with the State Government.

4. Road over bddge at Km. 608/4-5 Contract for the bddg e (Railways) in lieu of the existing level crossing portion of the work has been awarded and at Km. 608/7-8 near Kuttipuram. the w~rk is expect ed to be start ed shortly. National Highway Authorities are to take up the work on approaches.

(c) All proposals for road over bridges (b) if so, the remedies thereof and including th{'~e on National Highways are the reasons therefor; and cansidercd 0:'· merit taking into consideration the priorities of State Government, (c) whether Government would look National Highway Authorities, traffic den- into tbe matter'? sity and availahLty of funds. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND I.dian classical dances in Festivals of CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- India in Prance and USA TGI) : (a) There has been no dispropor- tio~ate encouragement of any particular 3745. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Will sty) e of dance, and a11 the weIJ known the Minister cf HUMAN RESOURCE Ind ian Classical dances have been pres cn- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: ted by the Festival of India keepinl in mind the spe.:ific reqQirements of 'Various (a) whether Government are aware proarammes and in consultation with the that in the Festival of India held in sponsorins institutions in France and USA. France and United States of America a balance was not struck while presenting (b) Docs Dot arise. tbe leading Indian Cfassical dances, resulting in encouragement of a few styl es out of (c) No further action appears nece- proportiofts; l18ry at prescnt. 19' WrItten Answers AORAHAYANA ~1, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

Drive against corrup tion Transferred 42

3746. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN Wi thbol(1ir.g of increment RBMJIBHAI MAVANI : Will the Minister temporarily 290 of TRANSPORT be pleased to state: SUbpension of privileges 38 (a) whether the Delhi Divisional Rly. Censure 79 Manager had so.ught public assistance in exposing corrupt officials to th em so that Warned 34 the recently started drive aga:nst corrup· tion can succeej while speaking to Repor- Total 506 ters at Delhi on 4.11.1985;

(b) if so, how maoy such cases have Defective construction of second Hooghly come to 1ight till dat e aCt er the above . bridge announcement and the details thereof ; 3747. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : (c) what protection will be provided Will the minister of TRANSPORT be plea- and faciliti es and encouragement will be sed to state : given to -tbose who are br inging to light such cases; and (a) whether attention of Government bas been drawn a report appearing in the (d) wha~ action has been taken against to those such cases which were handt!d over Bengali daily Bartaman dated 11 11.1985 during 1 1.8t to 31.10.85 by various regarding the defective construction of the individuals and organisHions and the second bridge on the Hooghly 1inking Cal- catta and Hooghly; details of such ca'ie'i h lnded over during the above per iod? (b) whether some pillars were constructed in a substandard manner and when THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE X-rayed, defects were clearly visible; DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (5HRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) ; (a) Yes, Sir. (c) whether all the pillars so far constructed bave been X-rayed; (b) Elghteen complaints have been received about COIfuptionJ irregularities in (d) if not, tbe reasons ther~fl)r ; Delhi Area, (e) whether the sub-standard pillars (c) Tu prott'cl th~ cOlnplainants, their need demolition or not; identity is kept secret. Experience has been that exposure of malpractices and (f) wh ether any lobby is working so cases of corruption b considered a social that details of defects of con~lruction of responsibihty by the citizens who do it as the bridge are not exposed and proper a duty to the loa WLth·}ut expecting any Nat remedial measures not Initjated; and facillties/ encouragement. (g) ~hether the Co;]struction of the (d) A(;tion as detaIled bdow has been bridge can be compJ eteJ within toe sche- taken duri!.,. this period against staff for duled time which has already been chang. various corruption/ .rregularities detect ed : ed several times?

R.emoved from service 12 THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT Compulsory Retirement 4 (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) The Government of West Bengal, wbo are pnmarily rcspon. Staff revert cd S sible for the construction of Second Hooahly Bridge being constructed at Cal- Withho!dinl of increment cutta, are aware of tbe def=ct iu one or POI maD on tl)' 2 tbo pillars. 1~9 Wril/~n Answ~rs DBCBMBBlt '12, 1985 Written ~nswers 200

(b) to (el Only one concrete pillar of laration depending on traffic/works beinl Howrah Side Interchange Complex under undertaken by Dcptt. of Water Resources, construction and not of the main Hooghly Govt. of India and State Govt. for Irriga- Bridge was found to have less number of tion. reinforcement bars than specified. The deficiency was det eCI ed by actual counting (c) A scheme for hydrographic surveys of tbe exposed bars and not by X-ray. and feasibiJity studies for development of Since checkine or pillars in a construction feed er rout es of Ganga inc]udin. Ghaghra of tbis type by X-ray examination does not bas been included in the 7th Five Year give useful results, the remaining pillars Plan as a Centrally Sponsored Scheme. were therefore, checked up by exposing Th e imp) ementation programme for the the reinforcements. No defect has been scheme can be worked out only after recel. observed on them. The defective pillar of ipt of detailed estimates from both the tbe Howrah Side Intercbange Complex Governments of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. has been demolished and remedial mea- sues are being taken. [English]

(f) No, Sir. UGC Gran ts to coli egs affiliated to Burd- wan University (g) The bridge is scheduled to be completed by the end of December, 1987. 3749. SHRI SUDHIR ROY: WiJ) the However) there are some slippages in the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVE- progress of work. LOPMENT be pleased to state:

whether the colleges affillat ed [Translation] (a) with the University of Burdwan are gettina grants in due time from the University Utilisation of major rivers for tr '1 \ ,or ta· tiOD Grants Commission; (b) if so, th e d~tails tbereof; and 3748. SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI : WiU the ~~inister of TRANSPORT be pleased to state : (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

(a) whether any scheme bas been for- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mulated to uti) ise the major rivers of the DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND country for transport purpose; CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA· TOI) : (a) to (c) According to the infor- (b) if ~o, the names of the rivers in- mation furnished by the UGC, a tota I cluded in this ~cheme; and grant of Rs. 1,73,76,421 was approved in respect of SO college. affiliated to the (c) the time by which a scheme for the Burdwan Univer~ity in the .Sixth Plan. Of~· Gbaghra river for the aforesaid purpose this, an amoun t of Rs. 1,00,25.108 has would be implemented? already been released to the colleges. The gran's which are still to be released are THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT most Iy in respect of building programmes (SHRI BANSI LAL) : tal and (b) Yes, Sir. and teacher fel1owshjps. Grants for buil- Out of 10 waterways id entified by the Na- dingg are released in instalments, the first tional Trlnsport Policy Committee (May , after the coIl :ges have furnished detailed 1980) for consider ation for being declared plans and estimates duly certified by tbe as National Waterways, a legislation (or State PWD, and subsequent instalments, declaration of the AlJahabad-Hald;a stre- tbe basis of progress of construction. tch of the Ganga-Bhagirathi-HooghJy river Similarly grants for teacher fellowships are has already been enacted Schemes have released to colleges only after tbe substitute .>' been formulated for tbe provision of in- ietcurers have been appointed by tbe frastructural facilities on tbi. waterway. colleaes and information in respect of Other schemel will be takeD up for dec- whicb is furnished to the ComlDilsioD. 20 i Wrltt.n Answ;"

Provision for construction of Indira tion programmes duriol J ',83-84 and Gandhi Canal 1984·85 is a. under :

3750. SHRT BANWARI LAL BAl· (Ra. in lakhs) RWA : Will the Minister of WATER RE- SOURCES be pleased to state: 1983·84 1984-86 (a) wh.ether Rajasthan Ooverument have requ ested to make special provision Adult education 52.00 96.19 for construction of Indira Gandhi Canal during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and Elementary Education 680.00 812.71 (b) if so, the amount provided for the construction of tbe said canal and the (b) The amount actually spent by the details in regard to spending of the sanc· State Government aDd results aebfeved t ioned amount? dQriDI 1983-14 Ire as foJlows :

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- (i) AMOUNT ACfUALLY SPENT : URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): (Rs. in lakhs) (a) Yes, Sir. 1983.84 1984-85 (b) The allocat ions for the Indira Gandbi Canal Project for the VIltb Plan have not 10 far been final ised. However, for Adult Education 49.28 96.19 tbe year 1985·8.6 the Project bas an appro- v~d outlay or Rs. 50 crores; Rs. 5.00 Elementary crores for the works on Stage-I and Rs. Education 738.36 812.71 45.00 croces for the works of Stale-II of the Proj ect. (ii) RESULTS ACHIEVED : Allocations to Gujarat for adult aDd ele- mentaryeducation 1983.84 1984-85

3751. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: (ADticipated) Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Adult Education (a) the amount allocated to Gujarat (number of addi- for implementation of adult education and tional aduJtI elementary education programmes during made literate) 127000 214000 tbe years 1983·84 and 1984-85; EI ementary Edu- (b) the amount actually spent and de· cation (Total tails of tbe results achieved durin. the number of child- above period; and ren covered UD- der UDiverselisa. (c) the allocation made for tbe year tioo of elemen. 198'5-861 tary edUcatiOD proaramme-level 60.45 61.83 THB MINIStER OF STATE IN THB of acbiovemeat) lakhs laths OSPAR TMENTS OF BDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA- (c) PJanninl Commission approved Rs. TOI) : (a) Tbe amount allocated by Plann. t50 laths Cor Adult Education and Rs. 700 illl Commilsion to Gujarat for implemeu- laths for Bl.. CDtary Eciuoation pro- 'ioa of BducatioD &lid BlomoQtary Bduoa· .r.1D1DII in OuJarat in 198'·86, 'DECm.tB~R 12, 1985

Dsitrict-wise laad brought under irrgation 3. Masso Dam 5796 in Bihar during sevehth plan 4. Auranga Reservoir 19872 3752. SHRI KUWAR RAM: WiJl the 5. Punasi Reservoir 3649 Minister of WATER RESOURCES be pJea- sed to state: MEDIUM PROJECTS (a) the total area of land proposed to be brought under irrigation in Bihar during 1. Dakra Naja Pump tbe Seventh Five Year Plan period and the Phase II 868 District-wise area of the land and to be brought thereunder; 2. Bhairwa R.eservoir 1100

(b) the names of the major/medium 3. Keso Res. 860 irrigation projects in Bihar proposed to be compl et ed duri ng tbe n ext five years; 4. Sala iya Res. 7i5

(d) the estimated cost of the said pro- 7. Surangi Res. 380 jects? 8. Satpolka Res. 995

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU. 9. Kan~jore Res. 1530 RCES (SHRI B. SH~NKARANAND) : (a) The additional irrigation potential expected 10. Ramrekha Res. IISO to be created during tbe Seventh Plan is about t.45 m.ba. The district wise details It. Upper Sankb Res. 1260 are not muotained at the Centre; 12. Dhansing Toli Res. 720 The names of projects proposed to be completed with the approved Plan outlay 13. Banki (Irrigation-cum- have not bc:en indicated by the State wa ter supply) 1392 Government. 14. Katri Rss. 845 (c) and (d) The new projects for which outlays weI e reconlmended by the Working Group of the Planning Commission in the Amount spent on Adult Education and Seventh Plan and their estimated .costs are Functional Literacy Programme. givon in the statement given below : 3753. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Will Statement the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state tbe Names and estimated coslS 0/ new irr/ga- amount spent (State-wise) on the following lion projects 01 'VII PIa" 01 Bihar programmes, year-wise during the Jast three years ending on 31 March, 1985 :-

S. No. Name of Bstimat cd Cost (i) Adult Literacy Programmes; Project (RI. in lakbs)

(ii) Functional Literacy Proaramm.: MAJOR PROJECTS and 1. .qandak Phase II 112S3 (iii) Other Programmes falling within 2. E astern Kosi Caoa J the purview or Non-formal Ed,,· Phale U 3155 oat ion' AGRAHAYANA·21. 1907 (SAKA) ·Written AII6W.T' 206

THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE. expenditure incurred under tbe Adult Edu- OEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND cation including Functional Literacy and CULTURE (~HRIMATI SUSHILA ROHA':' Non~formal Education Proarammes durioa TOI) : (a) A statement showing state-wise the last three years. is liven below:

Statement.

'A' Expend/tur, under Adult Edacatlon Programme Including Functional Llt~rtlcy

(Rupees in laths)

s. No. State/Union Territory 1982.83 1983·84 1984-8S

1 2 3 4 S

1. Andhra Pradesh 119.75 130.72 258.86

2. Assam 53.34 78.02 145.85

3. Bihar 135.24 190.30 241.67

4. Oujarat 72.48 164.18 194.45

5. Harayana 48.79 87.35 116.07

6. Himanchal Pradesh 9.64 16.71 . 21.38

7. Jammu & Kashmia 17.45 26.86 47.52

8. Karnataka 83.71 110.23 211.43

9. KeraJa 13.63 35.89 60.24 10. Madhya Pradesh 142.29 278.09 369.22

11. Maharashtra 101.60 220.83 279.63

12. Manipur 20.81 21.86 53.49

13. Melhalaya 19.67 27.28 30.84

14. Nagaland 12.03 22.22 24.54

15. Orissa 64.41 96.69 161.89

16. Punjab 61.88 72.9J .. 70.47

17. Rajasthan 103.14 .1.86.34 300.8S

18. Sikkim 4.77 ' ·~3-.89 25.24

19. Tamil Nadu 98.13 173.83 261.52 . ' .\. '20, Tripara ]5.34 17.10 32.75 20? wrilu. Au.. biCBMBSI. 12, lt8$ Wrltl.n .4n.swt.s 208

I 2 3 4 5

21. Uttar Pradesh 205.83 325.36 504.86

22. Weat Benpl 78.32 101.11 119.82

23. A &\ N Islands 2.70 2.52 6.57

24. ArunchaJ Pradetb 3.72 7.88 21.87 2'. Cbandbilarb 1.21 12.63 25.22 Z&. D & N Haveli 3.25 9.34

27. Delhi 8.2S 25.76 29.34 28. Goa; Daman Diu 0.39 a 0.91 10.06 Labbadwecp 0.70 2'. 0.47 2.0S Mizoram 30. 4.76 10.82 9.02 Pondicherry 31. 3.85 15.19 14.10 ------._.._,_...._ ..__--..... ___ TOTAL 1507.83 2477.20 3660.69

'B' Expndltur, ".., 11011 /ornuU EdfIcQllon

(Rupees in la khs)

S. No. STATE 1982-83 1983.. 84 1984·85 t 2 3 4 5 1. Aodbra Pradesh 64.17 l23.52 118.84 Assam 2. 42.11 56.31 88.13 3. Bibar 79.15 88.25 2'2.18 4. Jammu & lCubmir 1.09 0.64 31.84 S. Madhya Pradeab 16. '14 102.94 232.11 Orilla 31.88 ,. 32.90 119.80 7. aajlltbaD 32.12 87.76 232.21 I. Uttar 'Pradllh 133.73 179.52 32'.75 9. W...... 61.08 130.0' 171.87

10TAL 462.07 - -_r80J.89 15'6.'19 AOItAIIAYANA 21, 1'" (SArA) Wrlft", A",fNn 2JO

(-e) wbether tbe new revised a H'DDlent of Jodhpur lilt caDa) is technicaUy sound AIIIa1anee for U.I.... llatlon 01 Pr""'" and economically cheaper; Eclaeatlon In Madla,a P ...... (f) does the new a) ianDleDt of Jodbpur 3754. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Lift Cana I involve Jess lift and redUced Will the Minister of HUMAN R.ESOURCE quantity of hard rock excavation; and DBVBLOPMENT be pleas\~d to state the amount of central .'Iistanee provided to (.) if not, how could it be considered Madhya Pradesh for universalisalion of as economica1Jy viable ? ri mar, Education during 1985·86 '1 THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): DBPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND (a) to (a) The information is being colJce- CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH· ted and will be laid OD the TabJe of tho ATOI) : Under the prosramme of uuiver- House. saJisation of elementary education, durin. the Sixth Five Year Plan (1980.8 S) direct FeJtl.al of Ia4Ja in USA aDd Fraace Central assistance was given for tbe schemes of Don-formal education and appoint- 3756. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: ment of women teach ers in primary schoo- WiJ1 the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE ls. The proposals of the Government of DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Madhya Pradesb for assiltaote under these schemes during 1985·86 are undcr

Cc) whether the oft'.take point of lift 2. Retont... IlDpreYUCB (Hathat canal bal DOW beCD chaa.ed aad if 80, Dettia) reasonl therefor ; -Collection Prantita (d) what is the chan.ed alilnment of Jodbpur lift canal and tbe villaaea throUlh --COU ectiOD Aroaya wbidl the caul pallO. aDd the villaa. 3. Le DerDier SoleiJ (Prethem D.... whtob oouJd b. blacflted , Surn) 211 Written Answ.r, DBCBMlBR: 12, 1985 'Wrltt.n Answ,r, 212

4, Sur La Rive du Roop Narayan for books, journals and ) ibrary buildings (Roop Narayane Kule) were Rs.21.81 crores and to colleges Rs. 17.88 crores. The gants paid to univer- 2. There were talks OD Tagore, sing- sities _for the quality improvement of in8 of Rabindra Sangeet and dances in research programmes were Rs. 58.39 era. the Sbantiniketan style. res 'and to colleges Rs. 4.41 crores. As most of the research prOlrammes are 3. A film by Satyajit Rayon Tagore, conducted in the university departments, wat also shown. a substantial patt of the ar"ants for researcb development is provided to the uni- 4. Two of the films shown under the versities. Most of tbe colJeges are offer- Film Festival are based on Tagore's works. ing only undergraduate programmes and They are Ohaire Blice and Kshudita are also receivina development grants Pashan. from tbe State Governments. The question of any diversion of resources to universi. (c) Do es not aris e. ties and discrimination aga inst co) leges does not therefore arise. Allocation of Fonds to Different Ualver- sities for Reasercb and Aeadem Ie Pur- Increaslog Number of Flights from Trivao- poses drum to Gull

3757. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER 3758. SaRI V.S. VIAJAYARAGHA. JAIN: Will the Minister of HUMAN VAN: Win the Minister of TRANSPORT RBSOURCE DBVELOPMBNT be pleased be pleased to state : to state:

(c) the allocation of funds to univer- Newlltem Captioned "Rosllanaru Fading sities and colleges for various research Glory'~ and field work. buildina up of librariea during tbe years 1982.. 83, 1983.84, 1984- 3759. SHRI SUBHASH ¥ADAV : 8S ? SHRl DHARM PAL SINGH MALIK: THE MINISTER OF STATS IN THB DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCAnON AND Will tbe Minister of HUMAN RESO. CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH· URCE DEVELOPMENT be pJeased to ATGI): (a) to (c) Ourina the Sixth Plan state : (1980-8S) the UOC bas saDctioned Ra. 202.81 Cloret to universities and ~S 5.46

(b) if SOt whether some remediaJ steps (a) whether ,any quota wa~ fixed for are proposed to be taken fo sa\'e these grant of National scbolarsnips and Natio. historical places and restore their beauty? nal Loan Scholarships to the students of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE West Bengal during the last three years ; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUC4.TION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROR· (b) if so, the details thereof; ATGI) : (a) and"(b) The conservation and preservation of Roshanara Baradari and the tomb wi th in wh ich are cenrraUy pro- (c) the number of students of West tected monuments is in progress. Bengal who had received such scholarships during the period mentioned above; and The garden and the open area around the baradari are un<;ler the control of the (d) the reasons for shortfall, Municipal Corp~ratjon of Delhi which bas if any '1 been ~skcd 10 take up their proper main- tenanr;e and development. THE MINl~TER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND National Scholarships and National Loan CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH. Scbolar~hi ps ATOI): (a) Yes, Sir. 3760. SHRI BHOLANATH SEN: (b) and (c) The informat ion is ,as Will the Minist er of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOP MENT be pleased to state: under:

Quota fixed for No. of stud ents of West Bengal West Bengal who bad received scholarships ------._.._---- 1982.83 1983.84 1984.85 1982·83 1983.. 84 1984-85 ------.....-.------National 1980 2073 2167 1273 1031 Under Scho larsbips Process

Nationa 1 Loan 1591 1589 1589 1589 1589 1589 SchoI arsb ips

(d) According to information supplied Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY by the Government of We~t Bengal, the WELFARE be pleased to state the main reasons for shortfall in the utilisation number of persons affected and died due to of allotted awards were the inelilibility of lung canCer and particularly due to smok· meritorious student s on account of income ing of cigarettes during 1 January 1984 ceiling and non-receipt of merit lists from and 31 October, 1985 ? the examining bodies in time. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB Deaths due to Lung Cancer on Accoant of DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARB Cigarette Consumption (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUM'\R): The statistics rClarding deaths due t\) luns 3V61. SHARIMATI PATEL RAMA· cancer on account of ciprette c.)nsump. BBN B.AMJlBHAI MAVANI : Will tho liOD arc Dot available. A statemeTlt ahQ- 11 S Wrltt." Answers· wiDg the number of cancer patients wbo clneer hospitals due to various causes wero admitted and who died in special ised durio. 1984 is liven below:

Statement

Nlln'lber 01 Ca1lC~r patients tr~ated in specialised Cancer Hospitals aecordl". 10 ,,,,IDIU «lweI thlrlng 1984

Causes Admissions Deaths

1. Mal ignat Neoplasm at Lip or al cavity and Pharynx 6'83 227

2. Mali.nant Neoplasm of digestiie organs and peritoneum 4872 461

3. Malignant Neoplasm Respiratory and intra thoracic o~ans 2645 230

4. Malignant Neoplasm of Bone connective ti'sue, skin & breast 4446 119

s. Malignant Neoplasm at genito urinary organs 8804 226

,. Malignant Neoplasm of other unspecified sites 2558 136

7. Malignant Neoplasm of Lymphatic and baemapolic tissue 4045 456

8. Benign Neoplasm 1638 56

9. Carcinoma in Situ 53 2

10 .. Other" unspecified Neoplasm 10l! 16

GltAND TOTAL 40353* 1929

.-Iac;lude. 3694 CalCS whole break-up ilaot available. Central water and power re•• rell station, in Madbya Pradesh eoding J 983.84 and Pune how does it compare with all India percen- tages; 3762. SHRI B.V. DSSAI : SHRI V. TULSI RAM (b) in view of larle untapped irrigation potential in Madbya Pradesh and in view Will the Minister of WATER RE.,OU- of limited resources of tbe State, what RCES be pJelised to state: steps are proPo led to be taken by Govern- ment to speed up harnessing irrilatoL (a) whether despite their commitment pot entia) of Madhya Pradesh? to the promotio:l of R&D effortl, the planners have let down research instito- tio:\s such as the Central Water and Power THE MINISTER. Of WATER RESOU- Research Station, Pune; RCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND) : (a) According to Land Usc Statistics for 1981- (b) whether aga inst the projected 82 the percentage of gross irrigated area alJocatioDs of Rs. 29 crores the Central to total cropped area in Madbya Pradesh is Water and Power Research Station has 11.54 per cent against 29.1 S % correspon- been aiven only Rs. 8 crores resultinl in a dinl to al1 India. drastic pruning of the station's )ODg term power plan; (b) Water beiDa a State subject, irrigation projetts are planned, funded and (c) whether the cut will bit futuristic implemented by the State Governments. projects including tbe submarine tranlport; However, tor speeding up tbe harnessing of irrigation pot entiat by the States, the (d) whether the deve)opin. shipping Centra) GovernmtDt is monitoriDI select vessel designs for better efficiency is also projects and arranging suppJ)' of scarce hit; and materials and t echoica I alsistance, arrang.. iog external credit assistance, providinl (e) whether in view of this tbe Ministry asaistance for strcDlthcning State gro&IDd have askeJ tbe planners, to stick to the water and minor irrigation organisations and giVID, subsidies to amal] and maraina} allocation of Rs. 29 crores and not to reduce to Rs. 8 crores? farmers for development of minor irrila.. tioD. THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOU. RCES (SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND) : (a) Coacb factories set up during 6th Plaa to (e) An outlay of R.s. 8 crores is envisaged to be provided duriDg the Seventh 3764. PR.OF. P.J. KURlEN : Will tbe Plan to the Central Water and Power Re- Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to learch Station, ineluding Rs. 4 crorcs for state: the new scbemes. Development of Ship Hydro-dynamic TesUni facilities is one of (a) tbe total number of coach bufldiDl the new proposals. Financial allocations factories set up duriog the Sixth Plan and to the Research Institution including the the total amount spent on them; Central Water and Power Research Station at Pune have been made takiDa ioto (b) the names of statcs where thue account the overall coDstraint of fuodl, unitl are located; H.lIIISiall rrigatioa poteatlal of M."'. (c) whether the state of Kerala had Pradelb demanded tbat a coach factoty be set up ia that Slate duriq tbe Sixth PlaD; 3763. SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN : Will tho ministor of WATBR RBSOUR.CES be (d) whether tha t demand WIll DOt ace.. pl.led to state: pted;

(a) what il tb e pemoatal. 01 lrrlptioll (.) whetblr the OOVCl'DIDCDt have .., 21 ~ If'rtlten A ",w,rl

proposal to set up coach factories in the (a) whether the Railways bave launch- Seventh Plan; ed a drive against corrupt officiatE; and

(f) if so, the States where these are (b) if so, the number of employees Ukely to be set up? Zone-wise/Railw8y.wise against whom action was taken during the years 1984 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- THE and 1985, with details thereof; DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) None, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) Does not arise. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (b) The activities of the Vigilance and other Departments on the Railways have been (c) Yes, Sir. intensified to nab corrupt officials as also to reduce/e1iminate corruption. Special (d) to (f) Considering aU the aspects, drive are being organised especialJy during Government have decided to set up the tbe rush seasons to detect malpractic~s in new Railway Coach Factory at Kapurtbala reservation/dl Jotment of berths to passen- in Punjab in 7th Plan period. gers on trains and to punish staff found indulging in malpracth;es. Drive against corrupt Ranway Ofticials Zone-wise Break up Detajl~ or action taken by the Special Squad of the Railway Board and by the 3765. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: various Railways during 1984 and 1985 W jJl the Minist er of TRANSPORT be pJea- are given in tbe Statements I and II given sed to state : be)ow:

Statement-I

1684 1985 (Ja. to Oct.)

1. NO. OF CHECKS CONDUCTED

(a) Reservation/Book ina Offices•. 162 (135) 144

(b) Platforms 31 ( 25) 43

(d) Others 128 (110) 98 -- - -_------Total 643 (538) 656 ------2. No. of touts/Towel.Spreaders apprehended. 12 ( 10)

3. No. of CllOI of travel on trans- ftrnd ticbta dctootod. 2' ( 20) 6,4 221 Written Answ_rs AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAU) Written Answer' 222

4. No. of staff found responsible 'for irregularities. 462 (385) 492 s. No. of staff taken under major penalty action. 66 ( 55) 135 6. No. staff, taken up under minor penalty action. 396 (330) 336

7. No. of staff suspended. 37 ( 30> 51

8. No. of staff transferred. 11 ( 10) 36

Note :- The figures of 1985 are for a period of 10 months only. For the purpose of comparison, the proportionate figures for 10 months of 1984 are given in brackets ( ). DEClMB1!R 12, 1•• 5

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IrrepJ.rltlel In emploYment agafnlt .,orts quota to be restricted to the local zonal quota ID Railways candidates instead of consid riog the candidetes of other zones also for employ. 3766. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: ment? Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be plea- mE MINISTER OF STA TE IN sed to Itat e : THB DFPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) the percentage fixed for the pur- MADHAVRAO SCINDJA) : (a) There i. a quota prescribed for recruitment of sportl- pose of employment against sports quota in men on the Railways. Detajls are givtn Railways; in the statement giveu below.

(b) whether the Railways Department (b) and (c) In the recent past, one is aware of irregularities, being made by complaint aJleaing irreguJarity in tbis th e )ocal oo;cers while filling up the poc;tc; matter 00 North Eastern Railway waa against this quota; received by the Department of Railways. It was found unsubstantiated. (c) wbether any complaint bas been received by the Department, so far; Further information is being colJected and wiJl be Jald on the Table of tbe Cd) if so, the action taken thereon; Sabha.

(e) whether tbe Department is consi- (d) Does not arise in view of rep)1 dering the employment against this quota liven to parts (b) and (c) above. too by giving aD open advertisement and (e) There is no proposal to fill up the fillin, up tbe posts through Railway Re- posts against the sports quota tbrouah the cruitment Board; and Railways Recruitment Board••

(f) whether the Dep3rtmeot is consi- (r) There is no proposal to restrict tho dering the employment aglinst tbi;; sports sports quota to the local Zonal candidates.

Statement

Quota p".scrih~d for r~cruit""nl against Sports Quota on Railways

Unit· Sports Quota Group 'e' Group'D' (Class III) (Class IV) Poats Posta

ZONAL RAILWAYS

Central. Upto 24 4 in each Eastem, in a year Division aDd Northern, Headquarters and Southern, 3 in each workshop South Central, dUr ina a financial South Eastern and year. WeateI'D Nortber Butera Upto 18 -do-- in a 1ear 221 Wrl",n AI",."", DBCBMBBa 12, 1,'5

Notheast Frontier Upto 12 -do- in a year

PRODUCTION UNITS Cblttaranjan Locomotive Upto J2 Upto to in'a Works, Diesel Locomotive in • year financial year Works. Integral Coach Factory.

Research, Designs and -do- Standard Organisation (R.D.S.O.)

Taking oyer or nt-Equipped Medical college to the Government of India. The Instit& fions inspection of medical college is a continuing process. The Governme nt of India have 3767. KUMARI PUSHA DEVI : Will no proposal to take over any medical the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY colJele. WELFARE be pleased to state: Nationalised Traosport Companies Set up (a) whether Government propo~ to in States Affectiog Profitability of take stern action.. against some. prlv~te State Transport Corporations Medical C()lleges to check the probferatton of ill-equipped medical institutions in the country; 3768. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA. CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of (b) if so, which are tbe States and TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Medical Colleges identified as ill.equipped; (a) the Ifates baving nationalised (c) whether Government would take transpart companies set up under the over these Medical Colleges to bave. a Companies Act, besides having State Road centralised scheme of syJJabus and studies Transport Corporations set up under the to tbe students; and Road Transport Corporation Act, 19 S 1 : and (d) if so, the time by which a decision is expected to be taken in tbis lel8rd ? (b) whether tbe constitution of such Transport Companies adversely affect tbe THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE profitability of the State Transport Corpo. DEPARPMENT OF FAMILY WELFAR.E ration? (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR) : (a) to (d) The Medical Council of India inspects tbe THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT medica) colleges periodically with a view (SHRI BANSI LAL): (8) The states of to as:ertain tbe adequacy of standard of Orissa and Mabarasbtra have nationalised medical education, including std" equip. transport companies let up under the ment accommodation, tramina Ind other Companies Act, 1956, besides having StaCe facili;ie8 prescribed for Jiving medical R.oad Transport Corporations set up under education as weU as the S~eDCY of eve,! the Road Trantport Corporation Act, 1950. eumination. If any medical colJele .1 In Weat Benlal, Calcutta Stale Transport found deficient in proficieuey or in terms of Corporation is set up under the Road staff, equipment etc., the Council directs Traoaport Corporation Act, J950 and the medical coJlege to make up tbe defi. Calcutta Tramways Compauy Limited let ciency. up under tbe Companies Act, 19S6. Tbo operatioDi of tbe two, however) ate Dot If the deficiency continue. to per.,t. comparabl e, lince on e of them is operatiD. the Council recommends derecoanitioD ~t _SCI aDd the other tramwa,.. the qualifications aw:udod by the saad (b) AI per JalOflPatiOQ rec elved trom the concerned State 6ovemments, this (b) if 10 the details of th e code ; arrangement has not affected tbe profitabi. lity of the State Transport CorporatioDI•. (e) the number of drug un its in India which bave adopted the code; and Railway Sidings to Food Corporation of India Godowns in Tikkodi, Shornoor (d) the st~ps taken/pr"po~ed to make And Mangalore Section it mandatory for aU drug units to comp)y with the code so tbat Indian drugs may 3769. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN : become comparable to world standards? Will the Minister of TRANSPORT be THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state : DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY WELFARE (a) whether Government propose to (SHRI s. KRISHNA KUMAR) (a) to (c) The World Health Organisation had reco- provide railway sidings to the FCI godowns mmended that Member States should apply in Tikkodi, Sbornoor and Mangalore to the requirements of "Good Practices in section the Manufacture and Quality Control of Drugs'~ and participate in the "Certificate (b) whether the work on the Railway Scheme on Quality of Pharmaceutical pro- sijings to the Fel godowns in Tikkodi, ducts moving in tbe Int ernatj ona) Com- 8horooor, Mangalore bas been started; merce" to the DruJ Manufacturers in their country. (c) if so, when it is hoped to be completed ; and India is a partici pant coun try in the Scheme. A close watch over tbe manu- (d) if not, the reasons thereof? faeturio. activities of Firms exporting drugs under the Certification Scheme is exercised for quality assurance by th e Competent THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE authority. There are a number of manu- DEPARTMENT OF RA[LWAYS (SHRI faetur ers in various States in Ind ia who MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Railway are availin& themselves of this Certification siding is being provided for tbe FOOd Cor- Scheme. poration of Ind ia godowns at Tikkodi. There is no proposal from Food Corpora- (d) A draft Notification incorporating tion of India for a siding at Sbomoor or at "Good Manufacturing Pract ices" in the Manga)ore. Drugs and Cosmetj·_: Rules has been drafted and referred to tbe Ministry of Law (b) Work on the siding at Tikkodi IS (Lalislative Department) for vetting before in progress. publication in the Gazette •.

(c) Completion will depend upon depo- ait iDg of the full cost of the work by the Teachen Entering Politics FCI, which has yet to be done. 3171. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR (d) Does not arise. TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Code of GooJ Manuracturing Practices For Drug Units (a) whether it b a fact that the Akhil 3770. SHRI BHOLANATH SEN: Will Bhartiya Abbibhavak 88ngh Association the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY bas orBed upon the Government not to all.)w teacbers to enter into politics; WBLFARe be pIe lSed. to state:

(a) whether the World Health Orlant. (b) if so, whether the memorandum of aation -hu evolved a code of Good Manu- the luardians is under consid era Hon of tho (agturiOI Practioel (GYP) for cIr1ip ail. i qovwlUJltDt • (c) if so, whetber any decision bas been raising 443 million Suro·dol1ars for Air taken in this regard; and India to revise their bids in order to' make th e terms mor e attractive ; (d) if no decision bas since been taken, the reasons therefor? (b) If so, whether any iD8neial decision has been taken by the Ministl'1 in tbis THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE regard; DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROH- (c) if so, whether any final bidder has ATOI) : (a) No, Sir. The Government has been spot ted ; and not received such a representation from the Akhil Bhartiya Abhibbavak San,b. (d) if so, the main conditions that have been imposed? (b) to (d) Do Dot arise.

Release of Funds Against Guarantees Issued THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE By Shipping Development Fund Committee DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) to (d) Offers received from various int ernational 3772. DR. B.L. SAILESH : Will the banks are still U lder consideration of tbe Minister of TRANSPORT be pleased to Government. atate :

(8) whether the Ministry has a,reed to release funds to honour tbe claims payable under the guarantee issued by the Shipping [English] Development Fund Committee (SDFC) to bank. and shipyards foHowing the failure 11.45 hrs- of tbe shipping companies to honour their fiabilities ; SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: (Ban- kura) Sir, today is the tbird day of Delhi University teachers~ strike .•. (lntufflqlllo"s). (b) if so, the amount his Ministr) has agreed to release against tbe guarantees issued by SDFC ; and MR. SPEAKER : I bave aJready referred for information and when it comes to (c) the names of shipping companies me, I will decide what course to take. iDvolved? SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : We have THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT given Cal] ing Att ention ••• (lnterl'llptions). (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) to (c) As and when the shipping complnies default in MR. SPEAKER: That is for what I their repayments to commercial banks have caUed for certain information, and apinst loans which are' guaranteed by you can see me. SDPC, the commercial banks make claims on SDFC. The SDf

Railiag of &aro·Doll.... For Air Iadia MR.-SPEAKER: Does not maUer. It is a ript. 3773. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the JJ Minister of TRANSPOllT be pleased to atate : SHRI BALWANT SINOH llAM()()' WALIA (SanlJ'Ur) : Sir, two perlODa from (a) whether hil Ministry hu asked All India Vimukta Jati FedaradoD arc Ule InternatloDal Banles in tbe race of aittiDI on hunaor Itrik ••• . (1",.,.".,110lIl), MR. SPEAKBR: That is a law and ina. I will take up your case. There is ord er probl em. no problem. I will help you, Sir. I am at your disposal, Mr. Reddy. No problem. ( Inttrruptions) SHRI DASUDED ACHARIA : Ask him MR. SPEAKER: That is law and order to make a statement. prob1em. MR: SPEAKER: I cannot aft him, Sir. (1 nt erruptions) (Interruption,)"

MR. c;PEAKER : Not a Howed. MR. SPEAKER : I have not allowed this gentleman. Don't record. Now, Papers (1 nterruptions)*· to be Laid.

MR. SPEAKER: -No, this is not the way. J 1.49 hrs. SHRI V. SOBIIANADREESWARA RAO (Vijayawada) : The farmers from PAPERS LAID ON THE lADLE Andhra Pradesh are saying that the FCI is [English] Dot helpin~ them. (Interruptions) ADDua) Report of and Statement re : Review SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam : 08 National lastitute of Hydrology, The Minister should make a statement to- Roorkee, for 1984.85 day. THE MINISTER OF WATER RESO- (Interruption$ ) URCES (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND): I beg to lay on tbe TabJ e- SHRI V. SOBHANADREESW ARA RAO : There is an assurance given in the (1) A copy of tbe Anoual Report House. We want your belp. Kindly direct (Hindi and English versions) of tbe the Government. Nationa) Institute of Hydrology, Roortee, for the year 1984-85 MR. SPEAKER : I have already asked along with Audited Accounts. for information. (2) A statement (Hindi and Enalish SHR[ T. BASHBBR (Chirayinkil): The versions) regarding Review by the rice allotted by Fel to Kerala is rott en Government on tbe working of and it is of bad quality. the National Institute of Hydro- 101f, Roorkee, for the year 1984- 85. [Placed in Library. See No. MR. SPEAKER: Give it in writing. I LT 1593/85] will find out from tho Minister. Report of CAG of ladia for 1984..85- SHRI T. BASHBER : The distribution Uaion Go,erDment (Commercial) Part v- system is suffering. COCbiD Shipyard Ltd., AnDuI Report of and Review OB Mormugao Dock Lallour MR SPEAKER : Now, Papers Laid. Board, 1984.85, amd Re,iew on ad ADDUal Report of eoema Shidyard LUai- SKRI SURBSH KURUP : Mr Speaker, ted, CoehiD for U84.85 Sir, .•.••• THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT (lnlerruptionb) (SHRI BANSI LAL) : I bel to lay OD tho MR SPBAKER : You live me in writ- Table-

ll·Not re00r4t4. ··Not recorded. DECBMBSR. 12. 198$

,[Sbri Bansi La1] ties of Railways. (Placed in LIbrary. See ( 1 ) A copy oC the Report (Hindi and No. LT-1S97/8SJ. Bnglish versions) of the Comp.- troller and Auditor General of Annual Report of and Review on the work .. India for tbe year 1984-Union hlg of Technical Teachers Traing Institute Government (Commercial) Part V (Northern Region) Chandigarh, for the --Cochin Shipyard Limited, under year 1984.85 etc. etc. articl e 1 51( 1) of the Const itution. (Placed in Library. See No. LT- THE M1NISTER OF STATE IN THE 1594/85] DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE (SHRIMATl SUSHILA ROH. (2) 0) A copy of the Annual Report ATGI) : I beg to Jay on the TabJe- (Hindi and English versions) of the Mormugao Dock Labour (i) A copy of tbe Annual Report Board for the year 1984.85 (Hindi and English versions) of along with Audited ACCO\Jnts. the Technical Teachers' Training Institute (Northern Region) Cban- (ij) A copy of tbe Review (Hindi digarh, for the year 1984.85 and English versions) by tbe along with Audited Accounts. G~"ernment on the working of tbe Mormugao Dock La bour (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi) Board for the year 1984-85. and English versions} by the [Placed in Library. See No Government on the working of the LT-159S/8S) TechnicaJ Teachers' Training Insti- tute (Northern R egioD) Chandi- (3) A copy each of the following garh, for tbe year 1984-85. papers (Hindi and Eng] ish versions) (Placed in Library. See No. LT- under sub-section (1) of section 1598/85]. 619A of the Companies Act, 1966 :- (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and Englisb v~rsjon~) of (j) Review by tbe Government on Sardar Vallabhbhai Regional Co]). the working of the Cochin ege of Engineerina and Techno. Shipyard Limited, Cochin, for IOIY, Surat, for the year 1984-85. the year 1 984·8 S. (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and (ii) Annual Report of the Cuchin EngJi5h versions) by th e Govern- Shipyard Limi Cochin, for ted, ment on tre working of Sardar the year 1984.. 85 along with Vallabhbhai Regional Col1ei;e of Audited Accounts and the Engineerina and Technology, comments of tbe ComptroUer Surat, for the year 1984.85. and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- [Placed in Library. See No. LT 1599/85J. -1596/85] (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report Correction or reply to U.S.Q. No. 1609 (Hindi and Enalisb versioos) of re : Pri1'8te parties to take ancillary the Visvesvaraya Regional Co))eae activities of Railways of Enainn eeling, Nagpur, for the year 1984.85. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DBPARTMBNT OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (ii) A copy of tbe Review (I-Iindi and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : I beg to lay Englibh versions) by th e Govern- OD the Tabl e a statement (Hindi and Enllish ment OD tbe working of the Visvo- venians' correctiDi the rep), given OD 28th svaraya Re,ionaJ Col J ege of En,f. November, 1985 to UDatarted Question Deerinl. Nagpur, for the year No. 1609 by Sbri B. V. Desai regarding 1984·85. [Placed in Library. l'rivatc parties to &au up aneillal'J 'Clivi- Sec No. LT-1600/85J. 237 Papers Laid AGR.AHAYANA 21, 1907 (SA~) P• .d. C. 238

(4) (i) A copy of tbe Annual Report the year 1984·8S together with (Hindi and English versions) of Audit Report thereon. tht: MauJana Azad College of Technol()g), Bhopa t, for the year (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and 1984·8 S. English versions) by the Govern- ment on the working of the Regi. (i i) A C~'py of the Review (Hindi and onal En,ineering College, Tiru- Bng1 ish versions) by the Govern- chirapal Ii, Tami1 Nadu, for the ment on the working of the Mau- year t 98 4-85. [Placed in Libarry. lana Azad Call ege of Technology, See No. LT-160S/85J. Bhopal, (or the year 1984·85. [Pl(iced in Library. See No. L T- 1601/85]. 11.51 hrs. (5) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA the Regiona) Engineering College, Warangal, for the year 1984-85. [English]

(ij) A copy of the Review (Hindi and SECRETARY-GENERAL Sir, I English versions, by the Govern- have to report the following message recei· ment on the working of the Regi- ved from the Secretary-Genera1 of Rajya onal Er.gineering CoJIege Waran- Sabba : ga1, for the year 1984·85. [Placed in Library. See No LT-1602/S 51. "In accordance with the provisions of rule 127 of tbe Rules of Proce- (6) A copy of the Annual Accounts dure and Conduct of Busines~ in the (Hindi and English versions) of Rajya Sabha, I am directed to in- the tv\aintained Institutions of the form the Lok Sabha that the Rajya University of Delhi, Delhi, for tbe Sabha, at its sitting heJd on the 11tb year ]982·83 together with Audit Deec"mber, 1985, agreed without Report thereon. zny am endment to the Payment of Bonus

(9) (i) A copy of tb: Annua) Report SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (lCur- (Hindi and BngPsb versions) of nool) : I beg to present the Twentieth the Regional Engineering Conege, Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Tiruchirapalli, Tamil Nadu, for Public Accounts Committee 00 actioD the year J 9 84·8 S • taken by the Government on the recommeD- dations contained in their 84th Report (ii) A copy of tbe Annual Accounts (7th Lok Sabha) relating to Customs Recei- (Hindi and Enllish versions) of pts and Union Excise Duties. Re.ional ED8ineer~DI Colleae, TiruchirapaJ Ii, Tamil Nadu, for ---- 239 DECEMBER 12, 1985 240 .

COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS II.!! JarL

First Report MATTERS UNDER RULE 377

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SHRIMATI ABIDA AHMED (DareU))): (I) DeIIIaDd for daeckiDI ase 01 fntoxb. I beg to present the Firsi Report (Hindi tiDg drags, particularly &matk by youth and Bnglish versions) of the Committee on SHRIMATI SUND2RWATI NAWAL Petitions. PRABHAKAR (Karol Baab) : Mr. Spea. ker, Sir, the workshop on Narcotics bein, held in Delhi at present is a timely and an important step. Such workshops should be orpniaed in otber cities as we 11. The ELBerION TO COMMITTEE recent decision taken in the SAARC me~t. log is also a welcome step. I am sure, N.~al Shippiag Board these efforts would result in finding a way out so that playinl with the lives of our cbiJdren, especially young girJs, could be [&tllsll] cbecked. This is my belief that we sball have to make concerted efforts in this THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT direction, particularly to check the use of (SHR.I BANSI LAL) : I beg to move tbe smack. If this is not done, the future of the next generation will certaiDly be doo- followiog : med.

"That in pursuance of sub-section [E"gllsh] (2) (a) of Section 4 of the Merchant Shippml Act, 1958, the members of (II) Demand for talJag more strlageDt tbis House do proceed to elect, iD step. to CODtrot tbe deteriorating I•• sucb manner as the Speaker may and order situation in Delhi and bate direct, four members from among more Police Control Rooms for the themselves, to serve as members of purpose tbe National Shipping Board.. subject to other provisions of the said SHRJ D.N. REDDY (Cuddapab): Law As;t.n and order situation in the city Of Delhi is fast deterioratinl. Ther e is DO day when MR. SPEAKER: The question is : some gruesome murders, assaults and Bank robberies do not occur in tbe city. Govern- "That in purlUaDCe of sub-aectioD ment should tate more stringent steps to control the situation, aDd have more (2) (a) Section 4 of the Merchant or police control rooms. Sbippina Act, 1958, tile members of tbis House do proceed to elect, in (Ill) Dema... for coas'l1IetiDg .w raJlny luch maDner as the Speaker may IlDe for the backward .rea 01 Tb..,. 4irect. foul' members from amODI .ad Nagar districts in Ma.hahira ~ t.bemaeJves, to serve as membora ot SHIll S.O. GHOLAP (Thane) : Both tho NatiODaI SbippiD. Board, subject the &hats, DaIllC'" Kasara aDd Kbandala to other provisions of tbe said Act.'~ on Central Railways are very much over- crowdtd and therefore, u aD alternative Jiae aDd to live facility of Rail to back- 'Ward area of Thane and NIIPur Diltricts, Dr." Rail Line of Mallbetahat Naaar hi! Ibould be takeD up i1L1'Ocd iatcl) b, tbe 241 Matt,rs Under AGaABAYANA 21. 1907 (SJfKA) Rule 377 242

Railway authority. I, therefore, request 1981 in the presence of the late Prime tbe Central Government to direct the Minist er, Shrimati Indira Gandhi in a large Railway Board to take up the new line J)ublic meeting tbat another Soda Asb immed iately. Factory wouid be let up in IFFCO, Phul· pur. The announcement had set a wave (Iv) Need to develop tbe VlzhlaJam Fish- of happiness among the people. In view of ina H8r~ur into • dry dock cum this announcement, I also made publicity cargo barbour during the Seventb among the people tbat the government bad Five Year PIau period taken tbis step for the development of tbi. area. But no concrete steps have so far SHRI A. CHARLES (Trivandrum): been taken in tbis regard which may show Vizhi"ljam Fishing harbour in Trivandrum that the proposed factory will be set up has all tbe potential for development as a there. The then Agric11lture Minister had cargo harbour. There are also natural made announcement of this useful }jroject in facilit ics to build a dry dock in this har- an a rea which was represcnted by late Pandit bour, From the answer given by the hone JawabarJa) Nehru. I have come to know Minister to Unstarred Question 198 S it is that due to some unforeseen circumstaD· seen that the proPosal is uneler the active ces, setting up oJ Soda Ash Factory there consideration of Government. Tbe cons- is not possibl e. I was given an assurance truction of the Fishing barbour tboulh that some other bil factory would be set badly delayed 19 now in progre s and it up ther e in lieu of the proposed Soda Ash will be completed by 1987-88. Construc- Factory. The General Manager of IFFCO, tion of two break waters bas been comple- Pbulpur ha s submitted a proposal to the t~d under tbe Fishing harbour project. A government for setting up an Ammonia temporary "barf is also available. The Plant. It will involve a cost of Rs. 27, depth of the sea and the availability of crores. Besides, this will require lesser construction materials within the vicinity cost as compared to other places and will live ample scope for developing tbe neg- be set up within a short er time. I bad sent lected port into a dr, dock cum harbour. written requests to the hon. Prime Minis- The several lakhs of traditional Fishermen ter, hOD. FInance Minister and the AgricuL confined in the coastal belt of Trh'andrum ture Minister on 21.6..85 and 17.7.8' io are below tbe poverty line. The problem this regard. But no final decision has 10 of educated unemployed is also tbe Ireat- rar been taken. I request the CentraJ est in thi~ district. If tbe Vizhinjam Government to set up the said Ammonia Fishing harbour could be developed into a Factory at IFFCO. PbuJpur at the earliest dry dock cum cargo harbour, it would to increase the production of urea there. generate sufficient employment opportunity to this weaker section of tbe community. [Fngli.sh] I would, therefore, Ufle tbat tbe above work be given top priority in tbe Seventh (vi) Need to ensure prompt paymeDt 0' Plan and tbe work completed durina the dues of paddy growers of PoDjab ad plan period itself. HaryaDa far paddy purcba8ed by F.e.I; [Translation] SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO- (v) De.Dd for aa Ammonia factorY at WALIA (Sansrur) : Tbe farmers In Punjab Phalpar to laerease production or and Haryaua bave not been paid their urea amount for paddy purcbased by Food Cor. poration of India. AU this paddy wu SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL (Pbulpur): purchased by Food Corporation throqh Mr. Speaker. Sir, I want to draw the atten- commission agents. In many cales a tion of central lovernment to the announ- period of 25 days to one montb bas lap.. cement made reprdiol settio. up of Soda sed. Tbe number of farmen who havo A~h Factory in IPFCO, Pbulpur. The not been paid tboir ducs is in thousands former Aa riculture Minister, Rao Bir_dra aDd the amount exceeds RI. 1 SO crorcs. SiQ.h had annouQced Oil 30th December, Whenever tbo farmen approacb tb, 243 Matttrs Under DECEMBBR. 12, i985 Rule 377 244

[Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia] Speaker, Sir. a discussion had taken place commission agents they are told that Food in Lok Sabha on 12-8-1980 on 'the ques- Corporation of India has not paid money tion of setting up of a fertilizer plant in for their paddy. Foodgrain mandis of Ganganagar district. The concerned bon. Sangrur, Barnala, Dhuri, Dhanaul, Tapa, Minister had given an assurance tbat a Malukatla and Nihal Singwala owe Rs. 2 factory would be set up in Rajasthan but crores each to the farmers. The delay in he did not disclose the- place where it pa}ment is add!ng to the hard- would be set up. I came to know from ships of the farmers as they a:-e to pay you that the factories to be set up in back the cooperati/e loans. bank loans future would be located near the actual and purchase seed and fertilizers for Rabi' consumers so that they could get cheap crop. The Minister of Food and Supplies fertilizers and in time. should intervene immediatelY aDd help the suffering farmers. I would request you to set up the proposed factory at village Nawan in Hanuman- [Tran~lation ] garh tebsil of Genganagar district, in support of which I submit the foIl owing (vii) Need to amend tbe Forest Conser... facts :- vation Act for speedy development of undeveloped forests and baekward 1. The entiie quautity of fertil izer to areas be produced in the proposed plant will be consumed in the Ganga- SHRI M.L. JHIKRAM (MandIu) : Mr. nagar Di~trict itself. Speaker. Sir, Government have along been making efforts for the development of un- 2. That the land was earmarked for develop~d forests' and backward area and are tbis proposed 25·30 years back t com'llitted to undertake development werk on pdo' :tv !.l:lsis there. But such areas fall in tbe said ",j lJaJ!e and the said cent percent under for .!st and hill areas. land has not been put to any Sic, after the e1forc~ment of the Fo! est other USe to date. conservation Act, 1980, a ban has been imposed on tbe non-forestry use of tbe 3. That raw m~terjal and water is forest land. Therefore, it has become necessary to amen1 the said Act to facili- available near this village whkh tate development of such area so that are es&ential for a fertilizer plant. rO'lds, cana~s~ electricity )ines~ irrigation b~rrlges9 ttc. could be built there. Un- 4. That Ganganagar is an industrially f()rtnna~e:y, mlny works have been lying backward district and no public incomplete in thOse areas on which crores sector induslry has been set up of rupee$ ba"le already been in~ested. The portion of w,-)rt already done is getting there as a result of which unem- destroyed. Besides~ DO new construction ployment is growing there day by work h being taken up in those backward day. areas. s. Tbat Jabour force is also available Therefore, I humblY request the Cen- tral Government to sui tably amend the there to work in the proposed said Act. Otberwise, these backw,ard factory. areas would con!inue to languish in the 19th century, what to talk of 20th and Therefore, my ,ubmissioD is that tbi. 21st century. factory win pr('v;de means of livelihood

(liB) Oem.... for Ie ttiag up • Fertilizer to the poor peopl e of tbis backward dist- factory at ,illage Na... , HaIUllDU- rict. So, tbe said factory should be set up garla TeJasil .of DJatrict GaD...... immediately. ia Ilajastlaaa SHRI BIRBAL (GaDsanalSr) : Mr, 245 AolAHAYANA iI, 1907 (SAKA) Motion re ; 'Challenge 246 of Educalion-A Po/fcy Ptr.{'p~ctive'

12.00 hrs. The success of this Scheme mainJy Hes in stopping the drop-outs in the rural area MOTION RE: CHALLENGE OF BDU· at th: primary education level. CATION-A POLICY PBRSPECfIVE- Contd. How much our a;ace,:;~_orS regarded the primary education can wen be seen in our [English] sayings in the teachings to the children as Matha, Pitha, Guru as the Gods which we Mr. Speaker: Now we take up item see on earth. No. 12, The time allotted was S bourse. So, what is tbe fat e of primary educa- We have already taken 7 hours and 19 t ion today? The primary school teachers minutes, i.e. 2 hours and 19 minutes more are the men who do not get any other job than the a nott cd time. But st ill some than this job. So, tbe wbole seheme's more hon. Members want to parHcipate. success mainly lies in the dedication and So, I will give three minutes each to four interest taken by tbe primary "lass teachers or fivo member E. who can inculcate in the tender minds of children the idea that ed~cation is as impo- SHRI KADAMBUR JANARTHANAN rtant as clothin~ and food. (Tirunclvelj): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to parti- The primary scho\)) teacher's se1ection cipate in the debate on the new educat io- j, more important tban even university nal policy, which is the base to form a lecfurer's selection. Regarding this, I new India in the 21st century. Now, would like to submit to this House tbe still roughly one-third of the country's opinion of the born educationis: Mr. Dun- population is literate, in tbe sense not can Greenleece, a scholar who had been to illiterate. India with our Father of the Nat ion, Gan- dhiji, in the early 30s. His opjnion is that 12.01 hrs. till the 3 d Standard, only female teachers shoulJ be appointed to teach our children [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chair] from Baby Clas~ to 3rd Standard at least. With tbis meagre av\!rage of literacy, Only tbey can bave a motherly atti~uce and it is difficult for this poverty-laden country pa~ierJce to teach young children. Only to face tbe new educational policy and its then we can shape the future human reso- cba Hong es. urces whicb will be useful in 2000 AD.

Of course, this new G overnmeDt facing At this junctule, I hlve to show {he the 21st century in the near future bas figures of our education expenditure, rural been bold enougb to face tbis challenge and urban areawise. Doring 1950.51, and bas rightly raised open debate in this rural area expenditure was Rs. 38.3 crores august House. and urban area expenditure was Rs. 718. My submission is whether we can be croreS. During 1970-71. rural area expe- successful in imp1ementing our Dew policy nditure was Rs. 494.8 crores and urban with this meagre percentage of literacy. area expenditure was Rs. 623.7 crores. So, at the outset, we have to accept that These figUl es show that rural area educa- whatever method we adopt, we have to tions b not encouraging 0D lhe exp.;nditure make education compulsory as a national side. Now 14 or 15 years hlve passed. polfcyat least up to the age of 10, that is. India is a couotry of villages. We to lay t t iJl ~th Standard. have to care and nurse more the rural For tbe poor people living in rural childr en than the urban children. The areas, parljcularJy not to feel the hardship Central Government should care for tbe and the comp'.llsioD mlde by the Govern- p-imary education and secondary educa- ment, free nutrition meals sbould be g\von tion should form \he base of our education througbout t~e country till the sao of 10, so that universal and hiaher education will ,b., il to tbo Stb Standard. look after them.tvea. 247 Motion re : 'Challen,e DBCBMBBI.\ 1 2, 198.s 0/ Education-A Polley 248 perspletive'

(Sbri Kadambur Janartbanan] change in the system of educaiion in a But in rural areas, tbough people in- speedy way so tbat we will not Jag bebind tend to send their children to school nowa- the other countries wbere the technology days, they are not inclined to ~end their is changiua very fast and tbe gulf between chiJdren to school beGause they want them us and the other conntries will not widen. to earn even at the age of 7 or 8. Only If thit gulf is allowed to arow in a bigler free nutrition meals and free uniforms and way, then it is possible that once again free books till the age of 10 at least in our country will find itself under slavery. all rural areas throughout the country can So, to the extent possible, tbe maximum only be a proper step for our country to funds Dlust be provided to this Ministry. minimise drop outs, thereby making our But at the same time I cannot understand Youngsters at least considerably more liter- bow the Government object to some ate by 2000 AD. That alone can pave private managemen ts starting institutions the way to success. where tbey also act as a catalyst in pooJinl resources from those people wbo are in a Primary and secondary educat on are position to belp and thus providing free the most vital stages to be cared fori by the education to a certain percentage of the Government. I think, primary and secon- poor people. I am not interested in dary educat ion is more important tban Government encouraging private institu- University and higher education and, tions in the normal course if tbe Govern- tberefort; appointment of primary and ment bad tbe resources. But when Govern· secondary schoo I teach ers is more impor- ment feels that they have no resources, tant. they can certainly allow the private mana- gements to start institutions with Govern- With these words, I tbank the Deputy- ment }1aviol rigorous control so far as Speaker for having given me tbis opportu- standards are concerned. nity to speak. I wish the educational system is totally SHRI K.S. RAO (Machilipatnam) : Mr. overhauled. I am of the opinion that at Deputy·Speaker, Sir, I am very happ) that tbe VI Class itself t he aptitude of the boys it ha~ been realised that the type of edu- and girls must be analysed and round out, cation we ale bavina in this country is not and vocational type of education must be anita bl e to the present ne ~ds of the soci ety. intrOduced from VI to XII Class. From XII Cbaflging the name of thi., Ministry of Class onwards, to degree and post·araduate Education to that of Ministry of Human COUl se! only those bo)s and airls who are Resources Development is itself a clearcut found to be meritorious shoul j be admitted. indication that human resources which can Similarly when it comes to the question of be said to be a raw material available research and development. only thos e boys abundantly in tbis ct;untry need (0 be con- who are innovative and who have creative verted into finished p~oducts so as to serve thinking must be allowed fo pursue further a~ an effective instrument for the transfor- studies. There is no point in giving deltceS mation of (be society in tbis country. I wirhoul imparting any skill and confideLce consider that the unsuitable system of edu- and making tbem feel frustrated and un- cati on that we ba ve now t& the root cause employed, thus addinl to the unemployment of aJl the iHs in this country. problem in this country. Whencver we ha~e any discussion in the House, every Ministtr complejns thCit J am of tbe opinion tbat tbe .ystem there is the cO'latr1int of resources. How wbich was introduced by the Britishers was wiU they let tbe, e resources unless they witb a yicw to exploiliol tbe resources of improve the koowledlo and potential of tbe tbis country for their own benefit. If that b~man.beinls to generate and produce il leahoed, then we can certainly shape our wealth in this country? I wish to kDow rrom boys to IUU to our Deed, and tbul increase (he bon. Min ister whetbtr they want to 10 production which in turn will provide only at tbe same speed at wnich they were CDouab 1CSOurcei for tbe various Miniatries. loi~1 all tbese yean or tbey are reaJly ioterested in brio,inS about a revolutionary Wbn tbe Industry MiDilt" It a,klDa 249 Motion r.: 'Cltalt."ge AG1tAltAYANA,21, 190' (SAKA) 0/ Education-A. Policy 2~O Perspective'

for more funds from the Finance Ministry, There are various crafts which are t:eglec- shou1d they not realise that human resour- ted. We are not able to get competent ces development is a1so to be considered men to generate wealth., So, in those as an industry in a way to barness tbe particular areas where we are short of buman resources of this country which win people, we ,an 8traightaway cnter into tbe live better and faster divjdends. pfofe ssicn to aenera1 wealth. This aspect must also be taken care of. I am of tbe opinion that th ere must be free and compulsory education upto XII [Trallslat ion J Class. Beyond that there can be selective education. SHRI MANOJ PANDEY (Bettiah): Mr. Dep~ty Speaker, Sir, I rise to support tbe Rural areas must be given proper new Education Policy. The importance of attention without which the rural areas win education in our country is linked with our be deprived of th! right type of education. social and economic set up. So far as the agricultural sector is concerned, tbe situa- The Human Resources De~elopment tion tbere today is that when a son is born MinistrY must give wide puhJicity for tb eir in the family of an Clgricultulal labourer, intentions in cbanging the t)pe of education be is considered as a source of income and they mllst also conduct seminars; not right from his birth. He is consideI ed a asking them to do it on th eir own effort ~ource of income for tbe household. This because they have got meagre resources. is our economic and social system. You They must involve not only academicians know that agricultural sector in our country but also industrialists and executives, pre- is not or~anised. We have rai~cd this issue ferably some post-graduates who can also in this august House a number of times be of guidance and they can also explain that an cffoJt sbould be made to make the their owo eXPeriences and their problems agricultural sector organised. But no in life. effective measures bave 80 far been taken in this direction. First of all, we should The intention of the Government is to find out whether all the buys who go to provide a self-reliant nation. Without primary schools are duly enrolled in those human reSOurces development, it will only ~chools or not. I have evidence to show be a dream and in case this ncs)ect is still tbat these boys are not coroHed. The boys continued, the disparities in eCunomic attend tbe classes, but there is no record conditions between region and between to tbat effect. My sUUeslioo is tbat com- comm\oloity and community will naturally mittees should be set up at tbe State and lead to disintegration of the country. This the Block Jev el to find OUI whether boys aspect must be takeD care of a'ld tbey are actually enrolled in tbe ichools OD not. must understand tbat human resources A number of my colJeagues bave mentioned development ha~ got a role to play in main- about drop-outs. Tbe extcot of drop-outs taining the intearity of the country and is maximum in the age lfuUP of 6 to 14 survival of democracy. years; it is over 70 percent in tbls age aroup. We are aware of the fact th41t as 1 am of tbe opinion that tbe allocations 5000 as tbe boy reaches the aae of sa or to certain Ministrie. like Defence and seven years; his auardians take him alona Communications etc., can be reduced and to tbe fields for work. At present, we have tbe bulk of tbe allocal ion can be mad e to a number of scbemel like N.R..B.P. and tbis Ministry, so tbat I hIs will aive better R.L.E.O.P. under whicb they Ict a prett, and faster dividend:; in this cJuntry more load amount as minimum WalC8. Thus. tban aoy otber Ministry or any otber IJrga- tbey use bim as a means to eradiGate tbeir nisatioll. poverty. Mr. Deputy Speak., Sir, I am of the view thAt as 100' as this type of Women, a. everYbody knows, are nea- thinking contiDues, DO oducatlon poliCY, I ected to a very Ireat extent and I wish bowsoever radical it may be, tan be suc:- t hat they mUlt allo be liVCD propor place cellful. As lonl as we contiDue w;tb suell iA tbo IQciot)' wjtb rilbt typO 01 education. social and ocooomic QOnceplS, we caDDO' 2 ~ 1 M orion ,. : 'Challenge DEC~MBER 12. 1985 0/ Educatlon-.t4 PoiiCJ' 2~2 Perspecll,.,

[Shri Manoj Pandey] villages there are many schools where succeed. Therefore, our first priority should students are taur.ht under a tree and no be tbe programmes for eradication of other facility is 'tvailabJe there. poverty and for this p~rpose it is necessary to include two-three things in our new In the end, I would like to say that Education Policy. Por instanc~, we provide committees should be set up at national -rood for work under N.R.B.P. and R.L.E. level and state level to monitor \\'hether the G.P. My suggestion is that mor e food- wards of people in agricultural sector go grains should be giY~n as incentive to such to schools regularly or not. With these perlons whose wards are rcgular1y going to words I am grateful to you for giving me schools in the rural areas and are not time to speak. engaged in any other vocation. If we giv~ "two kilograms of foodgrains to such people (English] instead of one kilogram. it will be an incentive to tbem. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub- nagar): We are (ortunate to have a learned Oar second major need is that where.. and experienced Minister for Education in as we are givigg trainIng to the rural youth Mr. P. V. Narasimha Rao, though his for self emp!oyment under the TRYSEM Department ha~ been needlessly redesigna- scheme, we should also impart training to ted in a high-soundjna fashion. such students of class VIII to class X or XII as have aptitude for handling smlll The subject of educationa I reforms is machines. Although, we are giving such so vast that no useful purp05e can he ferved training now-a-day" yet my view is that we tbro\lgh such omnibus discuc,sions in the should train tf-te students of cl'lSS VIII to Bouse or through omnibus and symposia class XII under the TR YSEM programme that are being organised throughout the in the trad es of mechanics of small tractors, country ..••••• watch makers or manufacturers of other items of daily use such as transistors, etc. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA (Roberts. By doing so, we can also provde them ganj): As the hon Mcmbe:- finds no useful good jobs. I feel that in thii m3.nner their purpose in tbis discussion, I request him menta) developrn~nt will take place and not to speak. the crisis in the matter of admission to universiti es will also les;,en. Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, no. PJease don't interrupt. He has got onJy In the present circumstances I consider two minutes; PJea~e con tin uc. the three language formula is the best po: icy. ,Under th:s pJlicy our na tional Janguage, Hmdi and other regional langu- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: I, therefore, ages should form part of our curriculum suggest that discussion or seminar or and all the regiona I languages should be symposia be benceforward held on var ious encouraged in the COllntry. "Hindi should be individual aspects of the Subject. It has made compulsory and as a policy matter become fashionable for anybody who be- Eoglish should be made an optional laogu.. comes Chief Minister in the State or any. age. body who becomes Prime Min ist er in the country tor the first time to talk of new Secondly, we have seen and many of education policy. It implies as though we our friends here have also drawn the have not had aoy well-organised or well. attention towards th e fact that many pri. conceived education policy. mary achoois are Dot hOU$Od in buildiop. I would like to say that at least during the Sir, I bapp~ned to 10 tbroulh the curroat ftve year plan, buiJdio, for aU Kothari CommiSSion report. I do not know Icboola sbould b: coostructed on priority wbat distinct improvement we can teany basil under tbe R L.E.G.P. aDd N.R E.P. make on the Kotbari Commissio:l report. proarammes, 10 tbat tbe students can be The problem tb.lt we DOW find loday in the accommodated there. Arter thiS, Iteps can COUlltry arises from Our inherent failure to be takeD to provide other f~jlities. 10 our implOlDODt tbe rocommend,doDI of our 253 Motion re : ·Challenge AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) of Education-A Policy 254 Perspecti,e' own e-spert comm it tees and commi SSiODS. To allow more enterprises in the private Stctor is to anow the private profiteers We know our priorities. Our first pri. to exploit education for their own commer- orlty was to liquidate mass illiteracy. The cial ends at the cost of Government Ex.. second priority was to achieve the goal of chequer. universal eJem~ntary education. The third wall to introd\Jce the stream of vocationali- Sir, coming to the eJitisation, well, I am sation from 8l-h class. But we know how not real1y opposed to tbe quaHty in sclwol the elitist pre:;sure in this country has education. The document talks or district perverted, dl!bauched and subverted all model scbool. The Kothari Commission these agreed pri.)r ities. Report talks of neighbourhood school COD- cept. We have regressed from the concept I do not like t·) go into facts and figures of neighoburhood scbool to that of district though I have them at my disposal. The model sehool and this district model school educat ional picture that emerges from the has been conceived to increase the quality document is like Medusa's head which of secondary education. The boys are to anyoJdy who looks at it with naked eyes be recruit ed on the bas is of merit. But which will be reduced to stone if he has a he art. boys will be able to wi n the seats during common exanlination? Only the boys Sir, the World Ba.lk report says there from the upper-class will be able to will be 500 Inillioa illiterates in thiS coun- COil,plete that examination ~uccessful1y. I try by 2000 A. D. in the agf! group of 15.. 29 know the subjective inclin2tion of our accounting for 55 per cent of tbe world's Minister. But I am not sure whether he i\.literates. The UNESCO study reveals that has s u,;cumbed to the elitist pressures gene- the cn d:al 1 hr. shold of adult Jit eracy 1 eve) rated in the corrupting an1biens of Im- shou11 be 70 per r.ent if we are to achieve perial Delhj. Thel efore, Sir, my plea is this goal of univ~rsal elementary education. not to talk of now education policy. There Thtrefoi e, our pnorities are c!ear. We hlS been extraordinary degree of consensus know inspile of these priorities we have both among the educational experts made disproportiona~e progress, the rake's and political parties in regard to the progress in lhe sector of higher education. priority tasks of our education, Our fai Jure The Kotbal i Commission report auggested is on account of our inability to observe that w: incr ease OUf expenditure on educa- our own agree priorities. What the Minister tion f.rom 3 per cent of GNP to 6 per cent should Dl)W address to is the task of whether of GNP but we have not been able to raise our country., our Government can summoa the expenditure at all. So, the question up the political will to' implement cur is not one of policy at all. I be question is agrted set of p;-ioritie3, at least at tbis one of political will. To camouflage this . belated stage. ba$ic problem it has become inteHectualiy fasbM1nable to talk of new education polley .. Sir, 1 do not want to go into tbe de- If the talk was merely fashjonabJe 1 would tails. But I want to the hOD. M jn ister to not have been disturbed. At least there address himself to this task, political tasks are two signals in this document whicb are on which tbis document does not shed any alarming. The two signaJs are: one, prj. )jSht whatever, On the contraf), it only vatisation; s(cond. elitisation if I am for- gets our confusion worse confounded. given fOf the coining of thIs new expression ..

The document Jays Jot of emphasis on [Translation] privatisation. (n 1950-51 tbe contribution . by tbe private dODors to the expenditure on SHRI RAM NAGINA MlSHRA (SaJempur): Sir, I know that. tbelo is education acct,)unted for J 1.6 per cent. In shortaae of time. I have been giveD ouly 1980-8 J it came down to 3 per cent. So, j minutes time to speak on this subject what is the point in expe.;tinl the commu- of education. Therefore, it 'is' vcr)' difli- nity to mobiJise tbe resOurces. cult to say aU the things Within S miDu~ C8.

50_ what is the po int in ex~\ip& the , i , . • . '. '~J . comlllUo.ty '0 mobil- more resources? ,Learned per~a have e~pr.ed tbeir 255 Motloll,. : 'e"""",e DBCBMBER. 12, 1985 of Education-~ Po/Ie, 256 Perspective-

[Sbri Ra m NaJina Mishra] Hindi is being harmed much. The words views on this subject. I would not lik~ to of Mahatma Gandhi and Pt. Jawabar Lal rep.,.t them. Fortunately, tbe Minister of Nehru are not beiol liven a practical this Department is one of tbe few learned shape. Therefore; you wiJJ have to drcfde persons in the country. The subject of to what extent the national languaae would education is under discu,sion and I would be developed aDd whether education would lite to know from tbe hone Minister whe- be imparted in the country in tbe national ther this education will be given sha pe language or in the West ern language? according to Indian cult ure or Western culture. It is a matter whicb merits dis- The second thinl tbat I would like to cussion. say is about the manner in which education Sir. when we want to meet our selfish is being imparted. When the Britishets eod. we take the name of Oandhiji. I was came to India, they introduced a system of a very small boy at the time when Gandbiji education to produce clerks in order to get had gone to inaugurate the Banaras Uni- their work done, but even now we are versity. There it was written in English fo)1owing the same policy. I admit that "Banaras Hindu University"" and in Hindi. some development has taken place. A tJ farmer feeds a cow so tbat it may yield ·'Ballaras Vishvavid,ataya • Gandhiji had raised an objection against it. He asked milk at due time. You can imagine the Mah·iyaji tblt it s'touJd be in Hindi. cond ition of that farmer when it does not MaIviyaji had agreed to it. Gandhiji was yield milt? Today, a farmer gi\es money, of the view that the language should be floe clothes, shoes, socks, coat, tie to his Hindustani and script should b~ Nallari. son and sends him to scbool in tbe hope Not only this. when the Constitution of the that be will support him in bis old country was framed, it was enshrined in the a,e. Constitution and all the learned persons had also re.l1i ;ed that if India was to be But after compI eting his studies, he kept united, there ought to be a national does nor ~et an! employment. When a'k- language; and it was decided that Hindi ed about his qualifications, he replies tbat sbould be tbe national language in India. be is an M.A. in Hindi, but is unemployed It i§ wri tten on paper and also in tbe Cons- due to thi'S very reaSOD. Being unemploy- titution. SJt what is the actuaJ position? ed he wanders on tbe streets. His marria- I a4lked one of my friends why he speaks ge also takes .place. He is compelled to English. I was amused and surprised at waylay persons at knife point. I just want his reP'Y that be spoke Englisb to impress t~ point out the pligbt of Hindi now. the Press and oW' leaders so that they miJht consider bim a learned mm, and Not oaly this. What is the system 0 f tomorrow be miaht be appointed a Minis- education today? It is heard that in Ben- ter. Tbe Opposision Members alSO' speak ,al stories about prominent leaders of in Bnglish so as to raise in tbe esteem of China are taulbt. the country and tbe leaders of their Party. The BogIisb lanluaae did not have a sway SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA. (Ban- even when the ("4ootry was not indepen- kura): Where bave you beard this' It is dent. Will tbe hone Minister state whe- incorrect. tber tbere is any court of law in the country wbere judaemcnts are delivered in our SHRI RAM NAOINA MISHRA : I laquase, in our national Jaoauaae. Hindi? wish I were wloDl; but I have beard so. lli&ht from High Court. to the Supreme. Has no leader been born in India? Sha- Court all tbe judgements are delivered in k espear aDd N epoleOD will be taulht but BllIlisb. Not only thiS, even Dames Dothinl will be tauabt about Gaqa-Yamu- are written in En,lith. Bven namoa are na, V cor Savatkar, Gaodb i. Subhalb not written in Bandi. Some committees ChaDdra Boae. Ilubmit tbat we should have been set up to propopte the oational bave aD educatiOJl policy, whicb .bouJd language, HiDdi. Some balf bearted IIDcrate leelin .. of patriotisD\. There is no .. measur eS are taken to propaaate HiDdI lanaaqe problem. You may Impart edu- Just as a faCad •• buS ~u.lI, lbe ca.. of o.tloo ID r.Iou.. laDfUUea. W, ·w.at 251 'MotioN re : ·C",lk",. AORAHAYANA 21, 1907

[Sbri Ramswaroop Ram] children are admitted in - the scbools. of education and bring uniformity in This fault)· education and the dual system education from primary school level to should be done away with and there ahould other type of education. Similar curricuJum be uniform education from Primary level should be folIowed at all the pJaces so to Twelvtb standard. Only then I think: that even if you are sitting in Shastri our education would be helpful in ereating Bhawao, you can know as to which lesson an egalitarian society, orherwise diversity is being taugbt in a parlicular class of a in education would continue. particular school in Oaya at 12.30 brs and at that part icular time similar 1essson 'With these words, I eonclude my should be taught in Tamil Nadu and speech. Kashmir as well. You sbould evolve an education policy under wbich there should [English] be uniform course and uniform curriculum. I think, then your education would be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. beJpful in creating an egalitarian society. Piyus Tiraky, Mr. Janga Reddy, Mr. KaH Otherwise, after 17 years, you would Prasad Pandey-all are not there. Now alain present a document regarding Shri Owaisi. cball ange of eduea tion and demand a discussion thereon in the House. You PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (BaramulJa): should abandon the scheme of opening The bon. Minister had promised yesterday model schools, close the public schools that I could have five minutes more. and bring about uniformity in education. The education which is prevalent these MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No; days is fau1ty aDd is being inlparted a s an you can only ask for any clarification. experiment. You will have to stop such type of education. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: In the Second thing which I would like to place of Members who are absent, I maY submit through you, Sir, is that the num- be permitted. ber of drop outs is increasing very much. There are 'j 6 per cent drop outs. Where MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can- does this drop out talee place? It takes not represent others. You have already place where there is poverty and the been allowed 25 minutes. poverty in this countr~ is prevalent among the Scheduled Tribes. Only their children [ Translation] drop out. Last time when tbe Third and the Fourth reports of Mini~try of Socia 1 SHRf OWAISI (Hyderabad): Mr. Welfare were being discu~sed, I had S\l8g- Deputy Sperker, Sir, tbis Moti~n regarding ested tbat with a \iew to check the Dumber education policy is under discussion in of drop outs, n programme of food for tbe House. After independence, the education should be undertaken. The question of education has been causing us incentive by way of money should be anxiety aDd we bave been tbinkin; 8S to stopped and in its place foodgrains should which policy should be followed and wh icb be given to tbem. If a student loes. to laoJUage should be adopted. school for studies, he should be given one tg. of wheat or other foodgrains. This During tbe period of anxiety, we Md would provide an incentive to them and taken certain st cps, but you can see for in my view tbe number of drop outl will yourself as to what have been the results 'I go dowD. I would like to submit that tbe It bas been luaranteed in the Constitution num.ber of drop outs is very high at pre· that there would be universaJisatiOD of sent. education by 1960, but still there haw Time is very sbort and as lucb I can. beeu DO reaults so far, because compulsory not go in detail. But I must lay this education has DOt been provided. mucfl that a concrete poJicy .houJd be formulated in this COUDtey so tbat all the You bavo SeeD tbat there are 76 per 261 MOlion ,. : 'Chailcn,e AGRAHAYANA 2i. 1901 (SAKA) olEducatfon-A Policy 262 Perspectil'e' cent drop outs, becluseou' reducatioo does tutiOD permits the minorities to open tb eil not set any aim before U§. own Education instil utions, but certain restrictions have been imposed in the Bill The first objective of our education which make it djfficult for the minorities should be to create good character among to run their own educational institutions. our youth, but we la id less emphasis 00 We are running a Medical college and an character and we continned f 0 establish Engineering coJIege, but the State Govern- only educa1ional institutions. The result ment is putting hurdles in our ways. The is before you. In otlr country maximum State Government asks us not to cbarge emphasis should be on producing students capitation fee. All right, we will not of good character. charge any capitation fee, but we can accept donation. If you put restriction Second ly, )OU bave said that Model even on tbat, tb en the question arises as to schools should be set up. Such schools bow we run our institutions. Sometime; must be set up, but the question is that we are threatened with seizure of accounts, efforts should be made to improve those sometimes we are threatened. tbat we schools which are already there. I do not would be prosecuted. All sorts of eHorts mean to say that you should not open aTe made to put tbe minorities in trouble. model schools. I am not opposing them. I would, therefore, Hke to submit that But tbe sl:hnols which are already there whatever steps you take in future, some should at least be provided more facilities. such provisions should be made in them Thougb we have opened schools at every 50 that we could run OUf educational 1 place, yet YOJ wi)) find that tbere are no it1stitu ions without any hindrances. We chair. or benches, no black boards and do not accept a singJe paisa from the not even teachers. Even trained teachers Government and wben we are running a are not available to us. What will be the Medical College or an Engineering College outcome thereof? We are of course with our personal funds, the Government spending the money, but there has not need not interfere in our affairs. You been any tangible re~u1t. should see as to what is tbe standard of education there. The people af Your In our cQuntry, there are minority universities visit those institutions and communit ies also. Their mother tongue commend tbe ~tandard of education there. is Urdu. You should take steps for its All sorts of facilities have been provided develop:nent a Iso. But 1 regret to say there, but despite that new obstacles are that wherever there are Urdu sc'tools, the put before us on petty grounds. I would attitude of the Government is that these reqllest Shri Narasimba Rao to see to it schools should close oown ~omehow or that we are able to run our educational the other. Where there are scbools, institutions smoothly and we do not face there arc no trained teachers. any difficulty.

Th e qu est ion is why do you not open SimiJarly, under Laskani formula, the Teachers' Training colleges? No college minorities should be given facilities. is Qpend for them. The result is you Under the Three Language Formula, if also demand money. If a High Schoo1 is one wants to learn Urdu, one should be to b: opened, a sum of Rs. 20,000 is provided the facility to lcarn Urdu. No- demanded as deposit. How can the poor thing should be impos ed on us. Just now deposit Rs. 20,000? In ca~c we open it bas been said in this House that in the our own schools so that we roay promote name of language, many differences arise our own language, aod run tbose school and as a result many development pro- without the a iJ of the Government, all ~rammes are held up or come to a halt lorts of biodc.1oCCS are put in the due to these controversies. It would, therefore, be better if you pro\ide all suella way. people the facility of impartil1p cdu(atioD I would like to r erer to the Education through their motber tongue. In ac.dilion, Bill brouabt forward in Andbra Pradesb. I would like to make one more submIssion. nil Bill ii of its OWG kiDd. Too CoDsti- As I laid in .tbe boaiwDI also. a IOocl DBCBMBER 12, 1985 01 Bducatlon-.4 Policy 264 P.rsputlvr

[Shri Owa is i] are formed aDd ~haracter is developed among them which becomes a part of Ufo. character should be developed among the It is at this a ge the students come to know students. It is essential that the students about Rama, Krisbna, Akbar, Ashok, are given religious education. Religious Gandhi, Jawahar etc, It i. in tbis age education should be given to the people of group the students learn not fo discriminate all tbe religions so that a good character between human be ings OD the basis of is developed among them and they also caste or creed; spirit of renunciation, spirit make their contribution to tbe proarcss of of making sacrifices and takiDI bold steps the country. and morality is inculcated. It is at tbis aae I would like to express my thanks to tbat an attitude to achieve hilh ideals is you that you provided me an opportunity developed in bis mind. to express my views. Knowledge can be linked with SHRI UMAKANT MISHRA (Mirzapur): action. Therefore, basic education i.e. education Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Late Prime from Class I to Class VIn may be impro- Minister, Sbrimati Indira Gandhi, while ved. Today the number of educated un- making a convoca lion address on 11 th employed is increasing day by day in the November, 1983 in Gorakhpur University, country. High School, Intermediate, B.A. bad said that a change in our education and M.A" pass youngmen are without jobs s)stem should have been made immediat ely these days. A very serious problem hal after independence. New ~ducation system developed in the country. In order sbould have been implemented immediately to solve this problem my practical suggestion after independence. We are facing difficulty is that in every Development Block and today, because it was not implemented at Tehsil of the country a vocational tra inin, that time. As a result, our children at e institutes or scbools having capacity of facing difficulty today. But it is a matt er tb ousands of seats may be set up. Such a satisfaction tha t our Prime Minist er has or scheme may be formulated without goinl taten a bold step and bas decided to make into ifs and buts. Trades may be decided a cbange in our education system and it is keeping in view the industries in. tbe area. also commendabJe that this difficult task They may be tra~ned as mecbanics, fitters bas been entrusted to a schohlr-politician of or to manufacture agricultural imple- tbe country. We hope that he would be ments and articles of local requirement. ab!e to accomplish this task successfully. Students who have pasSed Junior High As time is very short, I am putting for- School Examination and #above may be " ward certain suggest ions. My first suggcs- given admission in those schools. It wi)) tion is that basic education is the found?.tion stem tbe late of those persons to some of education in the country. The education extent who after getting higher education from class I to class VIII is the very hanker after a job. Education should be foundation of our education and its condi- linked with know) edge and knowledge tion is at the lowes t ebb in the country. sbould be linked with action and action The basic education in this country was should be linked with skll). In fact, full introduced in the country at the instance of combination will bave to be ensured tbr- Gandhiji. The condition of education in ough education in tbis country, It is not the villages from class I t" class VIII is a system of meditation, but a very Simple appealling, but it is a State subject. Though combination. Lord Krishna had said : tbe State Governments are looking after Yoga Karmshah Koushalam, i.e. efficiency tbis, yet it is the duty of tbe Governmont Jies in action. The education system of India to improve the condition of edu- should be such as may link know} edS e cation in the country. It should disco.s tbe with act ion. Know) edge sbould be linked matter with the State Governments and with action and action with efficiency • • intervene in this matter and try to save the Only then we can march ahead. I supeat foundation of the country. The students or that opening up of new Hip Schools, class I to class vm are tbe cbildren bet- Intermediate and B.A. Colleaes in every ween the age aroup of 5-6 years to 14·15 Develepment Block and Tehsil Headquar. fears and this il the ale croup when babits ten may be stopped and DO freah ,raa" ,",0,) Monon re ; (Jnallenge AGRAHAYANA 2t, i901 (SJfU) oi Educatlon-A Polfcy 266 Perspectlv.' may be given therefor. If education is to Houle, for the last two days we are discus- be made employm~nt.oriented and educa- sing a vital ~ubject 'ChalleD,e of Educa- ted unemployed youth are to be given emp- tion- a policy perspective'. Many or my loyment and if their knowledge is to be coJ)aegues have expressed diBerent shades linked with action and efficiency, votatio- of tbeir' opinion. I want to speak on some nal traininl centres muqt be Jet up in . each important aspects of our education system. Development Block in their place. In our country educatfd per~ODS are- adopting Education should be (or the a)J round consumer culture indiscriminately. It will development of the child. The entire be very difficult to ensure country's deve- future of our country depends upon the lopment if conditions similar to those in type of education that is imparted in our Japan, Canada, America and France 2re scbools. developed. I am very happy to note that oor Hon. Prime Minister has stated Late Pandit JawaharaJal Nehru had the during the c~urse of his speeches at many foresight of sound education. To impart places that ours is a spiritual country. real education we have to ketp in mind the Therefore, we should no dispense with foresight of Pandit Nehru. The destiny of spirituatism which is· the only means to our country is being sbaped in class rooms. ensure welfare of the country. Spiritual Our lat e poesident Dr. Radhakrishnan was legacy should be linked with education. not only a renowned philosopher but also Everybody eannot become a Pundit, a lear- a great teacher. He said that the responsi.. ned person, an ascetic and a Mahatma but bility of producing patriots lies on the he can at least follow these ideals. It has teachers. Mahatma Gandhi's views on be en stated in the Upnishads : education are a Iso very relevant to the present educa tion system. Stressing the Ten tynkesan bhunjeelha margridhah importance of mother tongue in educa tio- kaschasviddha" nal institutions he said tbat "We have become for ei&ners in our own mother [English] land"'. He gave utmost importance to Enjoy with a spirit of seri6ce. moral eduction and character building. All tbese views have to be considered to build Do not try to snatch otbers. a strong foundation of our syst em of edu- [ Translarion] cation.

Such a spirit should be developed. I There are various stages in our s)stem have also seen engraved somewhere above of education. Tbey are pre-primary, Higher the doors of tbe Parliament House : Yatra Secondary, College and University educa.. Vishwam Bhavat,k .1\feedam. We should tion. Pre·PrimarY is th e most vital stage, build a world where everybody should ha·Je because this forms tbe base of the system.. equal opportunities. Such high ideals are In urban areas pre-primary education is ensbrined in Quran, Geeta and Vebas also. some what better. But unfortnnately in We should impart education by which we the rural areas this has been neglected may be able to get rid of consumer culture. completely. Many children in villages do So long as we run after materiali~m, our not go to schools upto tbe &Ie of six or welfare is not possible. High ideals should seven. This problem bas to be tackled by be incorporated in education and know)e- the Government immediately. d,e should be linked with action bDd action with efficiency. In brief, I would like to Secondly I want to express my vie•• say that proper steps should be taken in on primary education which is also in bad this direction. With these worlds I con- sha pee There mus t be uniformity In tbe clude. education system of our country from Kan- .SHRI 0.8. BASA VARAJU (Tumkur) : yakumari to Kashmir. The ~lectioD of Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, in this auaust primary school teach ers is Dot beiDI dODO Properly. Very intelligent persons will -The Ipeocb was orisioaUy delivered in become Doctors, Enaineers and I.A.S. KlnDada. ofIicon. Othor iDtelUleot perSODS will 261 MOlio",., : cCllall~nge oecBMBSR 12., 1985 Commltti!, on Pap,rs ~68 01 EdllCfltioll-.4 Policy Laid on the Tabl, Perspecti'6 !

lShri G. S. Basavaraju] education institutions hardly work for 6 become officers in various fields. Persons months for a year. This practice has to be of avaerge inteJligence will take up other stopped rorthwith. jobs •. Others, wiTh a very low intelligence Children's burden of carrying too and thas e who do not have any other way many books. has to be reduced. Vidya. take up this profe~sion. Neither they piths are rendering good service to the have dedication Dor love for the profession Datioa, Therefore, VidyapHhs should be of teaching. Therefore I urge upon the OPened throughout the country. AngaDwa- Minister to take up this matter seriously ris also must also be started all over the and to appoint well trained and intelligent country. Military training must be made teachers. Before selection the candidates compulsory. Retired army personeeJ and anticidents have to be taken into consider- Nee trained persons should be appointed ation. Persons from the merit list sltouJd to impart military training in each school. be app.)inted as teachers. They sbould be given handsome salary. Our bon. Minister is an expert educa- Black boards, seats and other facilities tionist and a areat sCholar. I hope he hlve to be provided promptly in the pri. shall mould the future of our nation aDd mar, schools. At present the school lack take it on the path of progress and pros- aU thele essentials. perity. I tbank you for giving me this opportunity. \Vith these words I conclude School children of today do not know roy 6peech. who is Mahatama Gandhi. They have not heard of Kabir, Ramakrishna Param Hans, Swami V,vekananda, Basaveswara and other social reformers. Therefore I urge 13.05 brs. upon tbe hone Minister to gi .. e importance to moral ecucation in our schools. Our COMMITTEE ON PAPERS LAID cbildren sbould be made patriots. They ON THE TABLE should be made good citizens of our country. The Govt. has to take tbis responsi. [English) bility of imoarting good education. (i) F ourtb Report Unfortunately, at the college and University level also the standard of edu- SHRI C.K. KUPPUS\VAMY (Coimba. cation is dcreriorating" Lecturers and tore) : Sir, I beq to preseot the Fourth Professors do not feel the ir moral respon- Report (Hindi and En~1ish versions) of the SIbility. They go to restaurants and bars Committee on Papers laid on the Table. with their own students. In my area one of the I ecturers has opened a bar in the (ii) l\·linu te s name of his wife. Thi s is the state of affairs of the teaching community in our SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY Sir, I coUelo;. Addition to narcodc. and other beg to lay OD the Table M ioules (Hindi intoxicating drugs is aJ so on the increase and Eng)ish vcrskn5) of the Sitting of the amon, tbe coileSe and university students. Committee 00 Pi-per') laid on the 1ablc It is hip tim e to check all such, immoral relating to their Fourth Report. practices. Adult education and women's education sbould be liven utmost importance in our MR. DBPUTY St>EAKBR: Now we education system. If one man is educated adjourn for lunch and will reassemble at thea aDly one person is educated. But if 2 p. m. a woman receiv~s education then the wbolo COUDtry il educ;atod, 13.01 br•• Tile Dumber of bolidays and the period The Lok Sabha then adjourned for lach vf vacltjons tDJlt be roduood. Now our till Fourt"n of 1M Clock. 2-69 Motion re : 'Challe"" AGRARAYANA 21~ 1907 (SAK~) 01 Educa,I01I-A Policy 270 PerJPective!

The Lot. Sabba re-assembled after Lunch han

THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RE- There are two aspects of education, ai- SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P.V. thougb in a strict sense We are discussing NAR.\SIMHA RAO): Mr. Deputy-Spea- a document which bas been cir .;u1ated in ker, Sir, I am very grateful to the hone lakhs and which mainly i§ the focus of Members who have made this discussion att ention today aU over th e country. In almost a marath')n. We wanted to finish this debate also naturally this document as it in five hour~, but they hlve proved· how was envisaged by the motion moved by me, unrealistic it was to think of five hours for has been the focus of attention. But apart a subject like this. 1 am happy about it, from the document, in my opening state- and I know that many more Members ment I have also submitted certain other wanted to speak. I would like to teU dimensions of this activity because when them that they need not feel disappointed this document was prepared and placed on for not hay inll got an opportunity to speak the Table of the House, the new Ministry in this House. I am available to them at of Human Resources Development was not any time If they have any silgestion in existence. So, this document became a which tbey consider should come to me document on education p.r se. AJthouge it and prove u'erut to me, I will be open, does have certain other aspects included to talk to them, discuss with them and in it, yet it is on education ~r se, but accept ~ny of their suvgeations after dis- after tbe formation of the new Ministry~ education has to be looked at from two cussion. different points of view-one, as a part of Sir, as I have said in my opening the wider programme of human resources statement, this is only a part of the nation- development and two, as education per Ie wide deba te that 1S now on. Just tomorr- because ultimately we have to 10 in for ow we are going to have a two-day Confe- micro-planning on education. So, these rence of the Members of the Legislativo two aspects are eq ually important and I Councils from different States elected by would) ike to deal with these two aspects teachers and graduates constituencies. We separately for the sake of convenience thou.ht that since for many many years although conceptually speaking, these are they have been repr esenting the interests not quite separate. of tbe teachers as well as expressing opio- ions on education in general this is to I have said in my statement briefJ)' consult tbem. I am going there mY~elf tbat human resources development is a while a\lowing a free expression of views, package; it IS not just one activity, it is I will be at hand to be of any assistance to a package of several activities which have them. been carried on so far both at the Centre and in the State Governments in aeparate Sir, in the history of education sucb an compartments. Naturally, they had their indoptb debate bas not taken place. This separate targets and whether one Minilter is tbe belt thina that could happen for the was dealina with them or different Ministers odilOatioQ in an)' COQDtr1 tbat 00 tbe one were dealing with them, tbe1 dieS aot have 271 Motion re : 'CM&"" DBCBMBBa 12, 1985 0/ B4actdlon-.4 Policy 272 P~rsp'ctlveJ

[Sbri P. V. Narasimba RaoJ country and they want to complete a1l the the integration which is needed in order to districts and to achieve 100% coveage make tbem a package. So. this is the first witbin the next five year plan; i.e. the time that all tbese activities have been Seventh Five Year Plan until 1990. Now conceived of as a package and tbis package the question is, what do we do? The life needs to be delivered to every baby who is of tbe child is being handed on from one born in this country and as I said, from hand to the other; from one Ministry to conception to ,raduation tbis is the range the other. Tbe moment he is born, the witb which we are concerned in tbis Mini- baby is passed on to Mrs. Kidwai and at stry. Beyond tbis range, naturally other the end of one year, when the booster doses Ministries would come in. have all been liven, the child is passed on back to me. And I pass OD the chi Id to But to tbe extent this range operates, Mrs. Alva for leDS programme, nutrition we have to-(l) coordinate with other etc. Then, sbe passes on the baby when Ministries; and (2) integrate tbe activities it becomes, say 4 years' old or 5 years' of tbe package which we are offering from old to Mrs. Rohatgi who puts him into our own Ministry. school. Now tbe mis-match lies in the come. Immunisation programme is supp- I would like to place before tbe HOUle osed to acbieve full coverage at the end what bas been done in pursuance of tbis of 1990, tbe integrated child development conceptualisation. It is not just a matter programme is gOing to cover only a portion of spelJ in, out. But certain concrete of that. What happens because of this steps we bave taten because ultimately mis-match? The child gets, until one everything will depend not so much on year, all tbe doses, all the immunisation slogans, not so much on our abilit, to pro,...mmes. But thereafter, it does not explain" a thing but tbe abUity to imple- get nutrition. Thereafter it does not enter ment it. I would just give you one exam- into Anganwadi because Anlanwadi is not ple. Tate tbe Health Ministry, for jost- available. So, we came to the ct')oclusion ance. Now, it is obvious t hat if any pack. that wherever tbere are sueh laps in tbis, age of buman resource development has we would like to cover as far as poSSible, to be developed, it bas to be first between the whole country, within the Dext five education and bealth. Education naturally years. But we have no money Cor tbat. becomes our first concern. But at the Yet we do not stop. We go into tbe same time without the package baving a nitty gritty of it. We find out if we can very substantial portion of healtb in it, scrape tbe bottom a little more, if we can the wbole package of human resource scrape from here and there what we need. development at tbe level at wbich we are Similarly, the integrated programme will applying it, will be lopsided. So, the be left in the air unless we benefit from first tbiDg we did was to sit witb my colle- the money apent in it and see tbat tbe ague the Minister of Healtb and also with cover ale is al nearly full as popible. my ~tber colleaaues ~bo are deal~ with That exercise wi)) be, may-be in the next certain subjects which were outSIde tbe one or two weeks. The Health Secretary, MinistrY before the new Ministry came into tbe Education Secretary and all those the picture like I ..C,D.S. J likenutritioD like who are concerned would 10 into it ante-natal care of the preloant mother and fully and live a report to UI as to how 10 on. So. we all sat together and we fo~nd much money will be required additionaJly certain very interestina developments wbicb if the coverale which we have in view ia to we would never have found but for .the be achiC\'ed. Now, tbis exercise could fact tbat tbis Ministry came into bolDI- not have taken &Hace if the new MlDiltry We sat with tbe Health Ministry and ",nt had Dot come into beina aod we bad not mto tb e d eta ill. liaised and coordinated with tbe otber As you are aware, tbis year on the Ministry. 19th November, a Dation-wide pJ'OII'amme WOl started by the Healtb Ministry for There is anotber very intereltinl ..~. ilDmullisation of all babies. They have One proaramm e starta from ODe cad of tbe ~ ta..... '1 about 36 or 38 districts in tbi, OOUDtr), or one end of tbe Stato; tho 273 Motion:,. : 'Challenge AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) 0/ Educfltfon-A Policy 214 Perspective'

other starts from the other end. Or even cook may be angry and the boys will get if you go to a district, one programme bad food. It is not to be like that. We starts in one block, the other starts 'from wouJd like to see that our rood technology another block with the result that the can come to our aid. I have spoken to packa,e is not formed at all. The package certain technologists from other countries is not delivered to the baby. In one b'ock, also who claimed tbat their countries are they may have taken the programme of very high in food technology. So, I would immunisation but that baby does not get 1ike to throw 8 challenge to our own food tho An8anwadi benefit immediatelY after tec!ino'ogists in this country whether they immunlsotion, whereas in some other block, can produce small packets of food, full of 'thore is an Anganwadi but the child who vitamins, which can be just given like is in theAnganwadi has not been immunised biscuits to the children and stiU, all the before. This again is a mismatch. Money is nutrition that is I1eeded is concentrated in being spent on both programmes. So, we those biscuits or in what ever form they have also told th~ Secretaries t~at whil e produce. it. Again this has become a drawing up their programm eS they should challenge to 8rother Ministry and chal1en- be commOD, the area should be common, ge to our technoJof.'Y. In the same way, so that the programmes could be common if we have to again come to the rescue of and also overheads could be reduced these children in their usual habitat; what and so many other facilities we can get, is it they general1y have at their homes 7 if we have the areas first demarcated so Maybe most of them have seen the father that all th e programmes are concentra- COmIng back drunk and beating the mother. ted in those areas. These are very simple It is quite possible. What do we do to things, very simple. When I tell them. see that they have some time, some peace probably you will say "Oh." This is some- of mind, to study, to do their home-work. thing self-evident." But sometimes, some- to come to school next day with some pre- thing which is self-evident needs to be told paration? We have just no idea what all over ag_ain very many times. These tbey are going through. We are sitting are the simple things which we bave gone in Delhi but most of us come from the into and we have no doubt that a~ a result villages. We know wt'at is going on there. of this, yon will get the package delivered We have intimate knowledj!e of what is to the baby and at the end of five years, going on in the viJlales. But for tb:>se we will be able to achieve the largest who have always been sitting here, it wiJJ possible coverage in these programmes. So, be very difficult even to imagine what is this is th\! first step of human resource going on there, unless relate our personal development. knowledge of tbese things. Most of us know; I know because I am a first gener- Then: we have to liaise with the Labour ation learner; before me, in my family, Ministry. We have to liaise with tbe nobody knew Bnglish, nobody knew Urdu. Agriculture Mi~istry, the Food Ministry. nobody knew any sci ence, but they were Ifwe want to give foold to these children, aJJ wise people; I cannot say the same we will have to liaise with the Food about myself, through I can say that I am l\'iinistry. We are going to do that, tie-up educated. So, there is a hiatus"between the all tbo~e programme3 so that the package two. Tbat is a different story. So, this is becomes a really good. useful, wholesome tbe package which we are going to deliver. package and will be delivered to the baby. which we have decided to deliver, and iD At tbe mome nt, . I really do not know to the process of preparing this packaae, we whom turn to. If I turn to the Panchayat are getting in touch with aU the otb.:r Samitti mao, be says "Where is the money Ministries. Now, we cannot have all the for it 1". I wi II have to find out what I activities under one Ministry. The whole can give by way of nourishment to these Government will become one Ministry in chHdren, not the nor Ina I stuff which takes that case. That is Dot possibl e. A packale 80 mucb dme to cook and perhaps is Dot will have to be evolved out of the coordl- properly cooked We do not want to de- n~ted efforts of many Ministries, and to pend OD iDdividual OGokl aDd individual start with, the new Ministry wbich bas iastitutiODl, OD individual taltOl. Tho been formed ,ets the minimum DWDbor of 275. Motion re : 'Chtdlell,e DBCBMBSa 12. 1985 of Educlltlon-If Policy 2' 6 P.r,~ctlv.'

[Sbri P. V. Naraaimha Rao] SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Do you want me to go from paragraph to para- activities which are needed as a Duel eus to graph? tbis packale. The nuel eus is t eady with us. But the nuclues lCJ not enougb; we PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Not at Wl11 have to coordinate with the others. aU. ADd this is what we are doing, what tbis, as a part of tbe total prolramme of human SHRI S. JAIP AL REDDY (Mahbub- resources development. nagar): What is new about it? Now I would come to education proper. education p4r see As I said, it is only SHRf P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: That for the convenience of discussion. I am is why I bave said that this paragraph is Dot really treating them as separate which the epitome of the whole thing, it is U.e it i~ not the intention of this Ministry to ght of th.e wbole tbing .•. do. But we have to spell out certain things in the field of education separately. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: We ae- cept. Before I go further, about this document, I bave to refer to some words ban- SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : You died about here; the most important is accept the epitome, you accept the gist that it is 'elitisP. I have not been able to which has been given in this paragraph. understand this word. But in any ca~e Therefore, loaie demands that you a1so tbe epitome of this document is found in accept the details ••.. the very last paragraph. Now I would like the hone Members to listen to this and SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The epitome ten me wbere elitism comes. is stat e. (Interruptions)

U Io broad terms, the task of e\'olv- SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: At the ing the New Education Policy wculd beginning, so far as the educational ladder consist of layinl! down a long· term is concerned; we start with pre-primary, stTatelY for education in which the which is again a part of tbe ICDS pro- requirements of universalization of gramme more or less. We do agree that elementary education; production of pre.. primary education bas not received so sophisticated manpower in adequa t e far the attention which it deserves. It has numbers to deal crea tive)y with rew been left mostly to privat e agencies or non- technologies ; divet~ified vocationali. official agencies. Now the time has come sat ion; and the creation of aD over· when we have to pay much more attention all environment for change and to pre-primary education because we have development through adult and conti- seen-this is the experience-that where nuing education would be int egrated pre-primary education is jmparted to a with measures to improve the quality child, it is not really education, it is a kind and outputs of all other educational of initiation; when tbis is imparted, it be· sections. In tbis integrated strategy, comes easier for him to go on to the school; specific roles wj)) have to be assig- instead of going to tbe school at S·p(us ned to different agencies for drawing straightway, if he pas!es through pre- up and implementing detai1ed pro- primary or' Anganwadi or whatever pro- lI'ammeS. To ensure fUDctional and gramme we have, it wi}) be much easier. sequential complementalities, it win be necessary to set forth the frame- It will be much easier jf this part of the work for iot eraction and jntes,a- programme is integrated with or located as tion." close to tbe school as practiC1lble. It may not be possible everywhere. But wherever it No. 1 do not find .. • is feasible, it should be our endeavour and it will be our endeavour accordiolly. Since PROP. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): tbese activities have DOW come under one uPlbroUa-of course, this is only a Central Thil parasraph is a11risht. ~11 Motion re : 'Challellge AORARAYANA ~J, 190' (SA£4) 0/ Education-A Polley 2'. Perspectlv.'

umbrella; we don't know what the State demand would be for both. But if there is umbrellas are. We will have to talle to the going to be a choice, if they are presented States aDd s ~e If they can also do as we are with a choice, then we aU know what the doing in the interest of the children and if choice is going to be. they agree, then the activity becomes one activity, one part of it in proximity of So, there is no use of our reaJJy aakiDI another and tfterefore it wiJl make for for more than what the people are pre- great convenience in the conducting of pared to accept as their priority. So, our these activities. programmes have by and large followcd very closely the priC"rity which has beeD Then we come to elementary education there in the minds of the people. Now about which all members; not only al J that we are self.sufficient in food, we seem members, maybe aU sect ions of tbe people to have forgotten all about it. But put in this country feel very much agitated and yourself in the position in which you were rightly so. I would 1ike to say categorically in 50's, with every three years or every what we have achieved. Although it is not two years a drought coming in most areas, highlighted in this document, this document what else could they think of except the was not meant to highlight the achieve. tank. except irriga tion t except food, except ments. It was deliberately meant to high· keeping body and soul together? So, iD light the failures. In a way, this is a the scheme of things something has happe- confesC) ion:d stat ement, a confessional ned which we an see today and we have to statement of a1l those who were involved put our heads together and find a solution in the process of education so fJr-State to this. There is no use of ruminatins over Governments, Local Bodies, Central it in any other fashion. Government, people, people's representa· tives, Members of Parliament, everybody. Sir, I have also said in my statement So, it is a common confessional statement. something which I want all members to think about. We have criticised ourselvC8, That is why, the authorship has not rather severely, because even after 38 been given. When PC(lf. Soz and some years of independence, eveD after 35 year. others said about authorship, I said tbat I of the constitution coming into force, this am prepared to give the authorship to tbem part of the commitment of the directive becau~e it is as much your confession as principl es has not been implemented. mine. So, the authorship will be that of the entire nation. May be Members of an Now, I would like all of us to 10 to Parliament Thoce who want to put their each directive principle in the Constitution signature here or their names mentioned and I am sure, the amount of IUccess and here, at e we lcome. tbe amount of achievement •••••• SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY; It is the case of collective self·confession. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: This is different, Sir. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Yes, it is a case of collective self-confession SHRI P.V. NAkASIMHA RAO : I win because we have I ed to thiS situat ion. teIJ you something more about it. I have already said something about the priorities When we went to 8 village in 1951·52; which the people bad in view. Article 4' says if there was a breacbed tank and at tbe that the State shall endeavour to provide lame time if a school was needed, we bad within a period of 10 years from the com- DO dOUbt as to what was the first demand mencement of the Constitution for free and of the people. We have absolutelY no compulsory education for all children UDtU doubt. Even if today there is a breach in they complete tbe age of 14 years. Prof. • tank, breach for tho last two or three Soz has not )et given me a method of years aDd also tbere is a .reat Deed for a compulsion whicb is acceptable to tbI school to be ropaired and 80 00, first they peopJ e. 1 am wa iUnl for it. Du t shall ., would Uk. to blve both. Of gourlO, tho 10 back to ArtiGlo 24 which sa,l: DECBMBER 12, 1985 o/1l:ducatlo1l-.If Policy 280 Perspective'

[Sbd P. V. N arasimha Rao] SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: "No child below the age of fourteen What is relevant is what is written in the years shall be employed to work in Constitution. I am going to the Constitu- any factory or min e or engaged in tIon •••• any other hazardous employment.'! PROP. SAIfUDDIN SOZ: That was What does this mean? It means simp" revi ewed by Kothari Commission. Jy 'and plainly that even while the Consti. tution wa~ being written, the farmers did ~HRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: Re- envisage some work being done by the vi ewed-y es. But what is the point in children of this country be]ow 14 years of reviewing it? They have given their re- ale. There is anotber very interesting commendations. But the point is that interlude in this. In the original draft it when you appoint a Commission_. (/nte". seems that child hbour below the age of uptions) No, Prof Soz, I want you to rea· 14 was completely b.lnned. I will read an Ilyappreciate tbis. I am not trying to extract from Dr. Ambedkar~s speech. I gloss over. When you appoint a Commi- quote: ssion on a particular subject, for that Commission, tbat subject is the real sub- "I am not prepared to accept the amen- ject and nothing e 'ese. Sometimes other dment of my friend, Mr. Nasiruddin Ah- factors contributing minus or plus to that med. He seems fO think that the object subject are J iabl e to be overlooked to some of the rest of tbe clause in Article 36 which extent-not deliberately but in the very was Article 4S at that time, is restricred scheme of things it is like tbat. If it is to pre-primary education. That is not so. going to be Education Commission, then it The clause a~ it stand, after the amend. will be education. If it is Minorities Com- ment is that every child shall be kept in mission, it will be minorities. If it is some the educational iDS;' ~tution 'under traininl other Commission, say Irrigation Commi- until tbe child is of 14 years. If my hone ssion. in all (heir 4 or 5 volumes it will be friend, Mr Na<;iruddin Ahmed had referred only irrigation. Therefore, tbe subject of to Article 18 which forms part of the the Commission becomes much mrre imp. Fundamental Rights, be would hlve noticed ort:lnt to tbat Commiss ion than' many other that a provision is made in Article 18 to rna tt ers which may be equally important forbid any child being employed below from the point of view of actual life. That the age of 14. So the prohibition is is what I am trying to say-that even at there .•• " that t irne, it was not clear that all chHdren were being sent to school and then, ec,mp· PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : What are ulsor ify. you trying to prove? Again, in 18 or 19 States, tbey have SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: passed Je&islation making elementary edu- What I am pro\'ing is that even while the cation up to 14 years compulsory. Now Constitution was being made, there waS I would like to know whethel there is a an idea. The,'e was an admiSSIon that single case where any parent has been sent theY will not be ab'e to ban child labour to jailor fined or penalised for not baviDI tot~)ly •.• (Inlerruptions). Please follow my sent his child to school. It is not line of argument. Therefore, it follows there •.•. tbat they did envisaae th'l.t some children would not be able to get schooling. So, PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : There is no the natur.ll corollary was that right from fundina· that time, ~ome amount of non-formal education bad to be introduced •..• SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: I am PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Kothari com ing to funds. Commitsion had reviewed the situation in t 966. Those broad recommeudatioDB be- Prof. Soz, you are a Proressor. I f\Jce the nati~o are relevant to us. would Uke you to be patieDt. 28 i Motion re : 'Chalienge AGRAHAY ANA 2J, 1907 (SAKA) oi Educalion'-A Policy l8i Per~pe(t;ve'

I have never been a professor but I per cedt while it was less than 10 per cent ha\le been much more patient. (Interrup· . in Rajasthan. tions) SHR} P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : You Now, I come to the next point whicb have said exactly what I wanted to say. you raised. You raj~ed the point whether The child in Kerala is no different from we have the faciJitips. I would like to the chi!d In Rajasthan. But tbe compul. squarely place before you the situation as sions io Rajasthan seem to be different we have havibg it time time. been from to from the compulsions in KeraJa. I do not There is an enrolment of 91~92 per cent. know why, but the scale of priorities in yo~ Now, I would like to ask how there Kcrala is different from the scale of priori. could be enrolment of 92 per cent in this ties in Rajasthan. Now, we 9.il! have to country if there had been no infrastruct- go into this. That is what I mean ure. If it had heen 1948. or 1949.1950 when I ~ay tbat an all India average is 1951 could you have ach; eved 91 per cent nothing. Even a di~trict average is enrolment? nothing. So, we will have to take up a massh'e programme of goinl from school AN RON. MEMBER: What about to school. It may not be possibl! sitting drop-out 1 here in Delhi. Most of us have been ejected from vi1lages but I want to ~ay SHRI P.V. NARASIHMA RAO: The that we have perhaps made use of the boy does not drop out before entering the schools for holding public meetings and school. I am coming to drop-out pr esent- nothing more. (Interruptions) ly. I am not running away from drop out. My whole idea is to concentrate on What I am saying is that we have not drop.out and incidentally to tell the hone realJy paid attention to the schools Members what we caa an do about it. that the schools deserve. This is the thrust of my submission. There may be So, 91.92 per cent enrolment does hon'bJe exceptions. I bow before them but mean infrastructure beicig available at the if they are exceptions tben the exceptions school level. The all India drop out ave- pro"e the rule. rJge is 76 per cent. ~hat doe~ 76 pe~ cent mean in the all India context mean. Now, bow to stop the drop out? I It is just a figure. It starts from 6 per cent had stated in my speech day before yes- in Kerala and goer; to 92 per cent in other terday that you know your target •.•. States. Let us set it s~raight. There are some States who have done it. Kerala bas SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : We were done it. not there when you spoke. There drop out rat e is just 6 per cent. It means nothing. If they have 94 per SHRI P.V. NARASI\1HA RAO : Here cent retention they would be able to have also it is a questioo of comparative priori- 100 per cent retention within no time with ties-the priority of stagina a walk out a little extra effort. But where the drop was more than the priority of education. out is 92 per cent, viz'J if in Rajasthan we see the educationai picture it is so depressing as was described by Shri Vyas ji yesterday So Sir who are our cHents? Wbo is then I would like to ask ale both the your t~rget' group? That group as I said cases same? Is the case of Kerala lame is in Class I this year in 1985. CaD we as tlls t of Rojasthan? Not at all. Tltat do somethina to stop these children from is where we have to diseriDlinate. That is dropping out from Clas6 11 Is tbere anywhere we have to go into tbe picture much tbina which tbe members would like to !eU more carefully and in Ir ea ter detail. me bow we are to do it? I have started In a modest way leUin, into the districts. SHB.l S. JAIPAL aBDDY : In Ker.l. caJJinl tho district authorities aDd tr yinS to lbe budpt 'POIlt OD odu~'ioD waa 36.1 fiod out acbool by bCbool, wbat is happca· 283 Motion re : "ChalJeng~ OBCBMBSR J~. 1~8$ 0/ Educatlon-A Po/ie) , ~a4 P.rspectl,.'

[Sbri P. V. Narasimba Rao] from the bottom in elementary educatioD. ing. We have taken up some districts. I am doing that exercise for Rajasthan, We will take up some mor e. Let US not Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh. run about the whole country-side-the In the next few dsys I shall find out if they whole gamut. We have a clientele already know a little more than I know about tbe marked out for us. If we see to it that dropouts, as they would. I am calling their the child who has entered Clas:; I in 1985 officers, calliog the Ministers because sitt- continues upto Class V in 1990, then you ing in Delh i and imagining things is not have solved the problem of drop out at going to help. We will have to go to least for the future. However, this is easier grass-roots. said than done. SHRIK. RAMACHANDRA REDDY After al1, it is not bundred per cent (Hindupur) : There are nlaDY, economic correct, when we say that the children are compulsions also for dropouts. dropping out because of lack of facilities. This IS what I want Prof. Soz to remember. , SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: We If the facilities are good enough for 30 or will have to find out first how many pre- 35 per cent, who bas made this seg'rega- sents are really making their children of tion? Has anyone gone there and said: four plus. and five pI us work for their ear- "All right, you drop out because there are nings. I can und erstand t en and ten plus; no (acHities and the others remain because eleven and eleven plu s. 1 he child goes to there are facil ities. ,,~ school at five. How many parents are there in this country, heartless parents. if SHRIMAfI GEETA MUKHERJEE you wi~h to call them, who are fending (Panskura) : This is a falJc.i.ciou~ argu- their five year old to earn something for ment. the family. If it is so, we wiJl have to look inro it. If it is not so, we will have SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : This to look into rea~onst why the non-eJ'lrol- is not a fallacious argument. Please listen ment is still there. to me ••• ••. (Interruptions). SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY That is I have already accepted your charI' what Wf! want yuu to do. that the facilities ate insufficient. Okay, but I want to tell you that the drop outs SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: are dropping out not only because there is Therefore, the time has come ...•• (Interrup- Jack of facilities, but there are other tions). factors. This is what I am driving at •••••. (Illterruptions). SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: Is it happening for the first time? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let him finish; I cannot allow such kind of a dia- SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : It is losue. No discussion pi ease. for the first time th3.t everyth ing is PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : We are happening aaain. Madam, it is for the first time that the Human Resource Deve- makins it a I ively debate. lopment MiDistry has come into be;nl. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Yes; That is why I say let us go into the micro be is makios it very lively; I am also planning proces~ of education. The findiDl it very live)y. There is no doubt micro planning process starts with the about it ••• (lnt.rruplioru). Thank you child, with the parent, with the family and for makin& it lil'ely in your own way. the school and that is where we have to start. I am not saying that by just sayina The point is that I have to sit with 10, it is gOin8 to be achieved. It is Dot Vyaa ji (or Rajasthan; 1 have to sit with loiDI to be achieved so early. the Education Minister of Rajasthan; I am callins him in tbe Dcxt few days. We are In every Lok Sabha constituency, ,,1t QUD~entratiq on the Ita.. which GIDCO haw a eomplomcot of Don·omciala-tbe 285 Motion r6· : ·Challe".fs AORAHAYANA 2It 1907 (SAKA) 01 EducatloPl-A Policy 286 Persp~ctl,e·

Lok Sabba Member is there and under him Minister was good enough to add a good we have eight or seven or six or five, what- dose of Rs; 1.5000 croreS at one pinch. ever may be the number, MLAs and then At a pinch, he did it. Now even that is under h;m we have the Pradhans, Pra- not going to be enough. mukhs, Zilla Parishads, Panchayat Sami- this and Parchayats and rigbt down to SHRl..S, JAIPAL REDDY: He did it village Jevel, we have this kind of non- (or district model schools. official machinery working. The official machinery is ~also working there. So with SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : It is tbe cooperation of these two machineries, not necessarily so, Ja ipaJ. The point is we what has been overlooked so far needs to have got Rs. 1 SOO crores. It is not be gone into in greater dttail. That is aJJ necessariJy for one thing only. I will I would like to say. And in this, i( explain the model scbools wben I came to Members of Parliament would like to give it. You seem to be jumpiDg gun all the a helping hand I am prepared to give you time. whatever assistance that we can. Wllat- ever figures we have here, I am sure, these Now, we will nave to make up our figures are not fully correct. May be, you mind. Are we prepared to say that a have much better figures are dead figures. particular percentaae o( this allocation They mean nothing to me on proper. Vhen should be earmarked for elementary edu- I ~ay 76 per cent or 65 per cent is the cation? You are the law makers. You drop-out rate, it means notbing to me. pJease t ell me. You will have to look at it in your district. I am sur e, this will vary from SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS We are district to d i~trjct. This will very from a 11 for it. area to area in f he same d istr ict. If there is a district only half of which is very SHRI S. JAIPAL RBDDY : The prosperous and the other half is all up· document itself says that our expenditure lands anJ so 0 ; the conditions will vary on primary sector, on el ementary educa. between those two areas. So, Jet us tion has declin ed from First Plan to Sixth reaHy bring to bear our knowledge of the Plan. So, we are with you if you say that loca' conditions on this particular pheno- sO much amount will be reserved for menon, which has now assumed such expenditure on elementary educa tion. formidable proportions. This is a'i I would say. [wi! I certain ly be in touch with you. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: 1 will Let us look into it more carefully. And if make full use of this commitment when we you say that th efe is something very have strikes and things like that in future peculiar in a particular constituency, I am from the other areas. This is a commit.. prep.ned to sit with you and analyse it. Un- ment from you. less you analyse the causes, unless you are dynamic enough to go to these parts and ( Int~rruptlons) do something, it would not be possible to trckJc the problem. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midna- pore) : You have a commitment from PROF. SA{FUDDIN SOZ : Before him. Are you giving a commitment? that, you will have to make some announcement that first priority will be given to SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : I am universalisation of primary education. really serious; I am not saying this in a flippant manner at all. But you cannot SHR( P.V. NARASIMHA RAO Yes, have it at both ends-this tide and tliat that is my next point. side, elementary education and (or all tbe other sectors, the emphasis win come in Whatever money we have there is no one sector, it is not possible. use of our deploring that it is very little and very inadequate and so on. We know I take it, as a result of this discussion; tb:lt it is inadequate, althou,h the Jlrimo as a result of tbis roferea4QID taken just 287 Motion re : 'Challenge DBCEMBER 12~ 1985 0/ Edlleatlon-ott Policy 288 Perlpectl,e~

[Shrl P. v. Narasimha Roa] 50,000 high schools in this C:OUDtry. May now within a few minutes, that the House be, margionally here pod there we may is of the opinion, tbe bon. Members of need. But what is needed is conloJida. Parliament who have been elected from tion. We have to give them facilities, we all the constituencies in this country are have to give them equipments and books, of the opinion that a definite porf'on of the we have to give them. better trained Iosources should be earmaked for elemen- teachers, We bave to re-vamp the training tary education and th ey should not be proFrammes of the teachers and so on. diverted to any other activity. And for this stand poin t there is a quali- tative difference between the elementary SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes, Yes. stage and the high school secondary stal~. Let us first recognise this. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO Thank you very much. Next year, I will Sir; J ha ve said in my statement tbat come back. and teU you what I have done. we are going to tak e up a mas~lve country-wide programme of school improve- SHRI NARAYAN CHOU BEY : It ment. Now, I will tell you what we mean should be substantial. by school improvement. For the first time, in the Seventh Five Year Plan, SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Now, Government of India has decided to scbou1der substantia I financial responsibili. any addition to ge,tieulation will not add ties for meeting the facilities in schools to the emphasis. So, let us go to the next wbich will bring the much needed im- point. provement in tbe standard of school edu- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, we cation. Some of the notable initiatives wanted to de-emphasis thei J model scboo)s whicb we are planning to initiate from and c)as~rooms. this year are making girls . educ.ation free from Class 9 to Class 12. About this Shrimati SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: As I Sushila has already informed you the other said, I am going to concentrate on tbe da! in this scheme,. we are stipulating now States while the enrolment and drop-outs that it is not just making i! free but it is are very \lery unfavourable and I shall reimbursing also. Actually the State come back to the House and I hope tbe Governments are Supposed to tell us how House will insist on more and more many girls are in Class XI and Class XII debates like tbis, not Jess and less. because of the free education and we will Now,l come to Secondary Education. reimburse them for whatever tuition fee I am sorry I am taking a litH e more time. they would have got from tbese girls. In the scheme, we are stipulating that But many points ba ,e been raised and I tbi. amount will be used by the State Govern- am tbankful that the Members are very ment for providing free uniforms and conl- patient and willinl to bear me. So, I tructing bath-rooms and lavatorics in would come to Secondary Education. schools: Now, we do not want thi~ money When we dealt witb primary, we found to be diverted to somethina else. We are tbat what is needed in primary educat ion subsiding tbem, we are re-imbursiDI them is was still a programme of expansion, for the fees that they would have lot. But more teachers, more black-boards, more we are reqU~tiDg th~m .hat tbis money schools, more class-rooml-and so on. should r emam here, smcc this departmnet May be in some areas, schools are needed. itself needs this money. But the point is-whatever we have to liw as facilities to the schools.-tbey need ADd we say Siv e them uniforms, CODS- to be aUlmented, quite subatantially at tbe truct bathrooms, construct Javatories and elementary level. But the lame is Dot so ODe For this, if this money is utilised true at tbe hilb scbool level because we we "UI be happy. have about 52,000 to 54,000 biah schools in tbe country. What il needed il their SHRIMATI OBETA MUKHERJEB : I CODsa' ",-lion. We do Dot DODd aDotber waDt a tJarificatioD. For the Statea wbich 289 Motion r. : 'C,",lknl~ AORARAYANA 21, 1'07 (S~£4) 01 Edilcatfon-A Policy 290 Perspective'

are havin, already education free for airls, PROF. P.l. KURIEN (Idukki) : A what will you reimburse? particular State which has reacbed a certain level of achievement in edueatiOD SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: If it should not be at a disadvantage. is free whrt do I reimburse? SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : No, (Interruptions) it will not. It will not be at a disadvantage. We will give great publicity to all SHRf BASUDEB ACHARIA (Santura): of you from those States. As I said, It is aJreaey free in our State. whatever option, are open including on a certain ::onceptual or imaginary basi •• SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : This these States also would be considered, but I would certainly advise you again~t it. reimbursement is not a grant. This reimbursement is something in respect of You can say "yes, we have done thil. But we are deficient in such and sucb fees which they would forego actually. I do not know what foregoing means-fore- area, you please help u~." That would ,oing 10 years ago? I am not sure. I wi)] be a more reasonable demand to mako. I examine that. You should be . bappy that do not bave to tell you, what demands you you have foregone this and you have taken should make on me. Under the scheme of a lead over other States, so that they strengthening'of teachers' training institutions, there is a proposal to assist 1 SOO follow your example and we help them in following yOUf example. That is tbe teaching traininl institutions for the school sector and the SCERTS. Now this again point. is a massive programme. 1500 of these schools will aet some assistance, we will (Interruptions) see how to assist each of these schools, what they are d efident in and how we can SHRIO.M. BANATWALLA (Ponna- assist them. This is under consideration. ni> : Why punish those States which have Also under the scheme of science and given priority to education? It should not environmental education in schools, thero be. They should be rewarded. are pr oposals of assistance under considera tion. Now the point is at the biah SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : I wjJ1 school level, what is lackinl and sadl, tell you. I am aware of the fact that, if a lacking is science equipment laboratory State bas already done tbis, we have two equipment and so OD. We know of schools options. Takin8 an imaginary Yi ew of bow where the teacher alone is supposed to do much tbey might have lost, we reimburse the experiment. So we will give more or in tbe alternative, we know that no assistance because we have to create a State in this country is ful1y provided for scientific temper, (or which this is needed. in education. Now, there may be some Weare considering seriously what we could other areas where these States are deficient do for tbese schools and we will do that. and we could certainlY go to their help. Tbe propramme of non-formal education The other States whom we are reimburs- which is proposed to be cODtinued durinl ing for girls' education mayor may not the' Seventh Plan would briog educational have come to tbat level where we need facilities within the reacb of habitationa tbese things. So let us 10 into it in grea- not served ,by schools and in other places ter detail. It is not a question of a crown to the population of drop-outs, who do Dot grant beina liven free here. The point is find it possible to att end schools. we are helpinl certain States. You know tbat we have to do something like equali- This programme can brinl acceptable sation of opportunities. Now if a State is educational facilities within the reach 01 lallina behind for any reason, we will eYer)' ODO in the country, by tho ond of tho have to 10 to tbe aid of tbat State. For 7th Plan. This is what is beinl done: a the flrat timo, we are:quotiq it iD the Seven- hale programme of DOD-formal education, ,b Plan. If ,OU atart puttiDi an kinds of to supplement tho formal edUcatiOD tbat obstaolea, thea laa.rt. wiU bo D~~ wo are livlq. Wo have Dot ,., iDalia.. 291 MotiOlt re : 'CIuJII.",. DBCBMIII!& 12, It8S 0/ B4Mellllon-.4 Pollc, 292 l'~rs"cl".' tShri P.V. Narasimba Rao] So, the bilher fiaure is for the South. ~"I the arranlematl. On tbis ID'ltter, If (l",.,rupllolls) Now hOD. Members frOlD you bave any otber sugations •••••• ,otber areas should not combi[1e with tbe South. South bas been liven Irants, 15.11 In. naturally on merits. There is no questioD of South gettinl any extra grant supply SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: The pro- because it is the South; sirnilar1y in tbe cale of East or Nortb. 'Soutb bas 80t it lrammatic content of non-formal education because probably it bas done Well. That is very weak, and the structure Is allo weak. is all.

SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: If Comins to UGC. wbateveer luaestions you 'have any sugestions for streDgthenfag have been made by bon. Members, It 11 a this content, I would certainly welcome fact that so far as higher education is them; that is why I say that Dotblnl is concerned-Dot higher technical education. fiDalized. I would not like to finalize any- but higher educat ion per se is cODcerned, thing before I have had consultation .nth tbe outlays in tbis Plan, according to what Members of Parliament-which is being we have decided by CODsensus. would have done now. So, if you have any suaestions to be uDder certain constraint; and we can- pleas 0 give them. (Interruptions) I under- not possibly go beyond a poin t. We .tand tbis. I tnow that non-form. I edu- would lite to keep that in view because this cation is somethinl new in tbi. coantry. is iD conformity with the consensus. It has not been reaJly implemented with . Ireat success; it has been done onl, witb partial success. If you have lOt any idea At tb e same time, we a re going in for as to how to make it stroD,er and more areal meaniDgfu) programme of d istanee purpodve. I would like to have your education. I jUlt wanted to say this in suggestions. connection witb character buiJding, whicb a.oy Members SpOke about. Cbaracter Witb this, we pas, on to Unlyersitiol. building is something which again is not like buUdinl a house. We know tba t in SOME HON. MEMBBRS : Wbat about Ma6abharalQ in this very pJace, or some- vocation a1fzati on? Ten-plus-two is very where near bere, we had Dronacbarya. He important. was tbe common t eacber of Kau avas and Panda vas. So, what the products of the SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO : same school, can become in later life, is About universities, a charge was made not very much in the hands of tbe teacher, tbat the Universities in the South were altbough tbe teacber bas done his best by trettin, a raw deal. This is a vcry serious livin, tbem wbatever educat ion he wanted matter, on which we can certainl, diacuss to give. or he thouabt best. and in the with a certain relaxed mood. Wbea ,ou best manDer be througbt it should be la, lOme area is be.. discrillliDatod giveD. So, we bave an example rigbt aplnst, it becomes at ODCe a lOrious from MaluJbllarata. (rlll.rruptIOlb) But matter. I would like to remove this more tban Kauravas and tbe PaDdav8I, we impression. These are tbe arants paid b) bave the first example of distance educa- U.G.C. in tbe 6th Plan: tion in the same MaltabhartlttJ and tbat is Ekalavya. He was Dot allowed to this No of Grant school becaose be was DOt a priDeD; be Univerlitiea (iD latha) .a' a pauper. be was a commoner aDd tberefore by hil own devotion to Drooa· Somh 21 3,574 char,a, he PDt a Itatue of DroDacba..,. in front of hi.... clf. and achieved ....tcr North ... 28 3,448 d".., ,1d7tI than all the Ka...... 'aDd PaacJavu. "'erefore, tbiI very pertja. Bast 22 2,4J. teaclaer bad to IImIDd btl .l1umb 81 p,,' Weat ... 3,014 dak..... (lwI.,.,) ~~l Motlon,e: 'Clralkn,e AokABAyANA 2J, 190' <8.4£4) 0/ EducIllIOll-.4 PoNe}' 294 P.f,pecti'.'

rTfllUiatloll] which eudeavour to Serve as a catalyst 'for the above mentioned Jonl-term programme. This practice bad all alonl been there. 111e maiD characteriltics of these institutions That is why I am livinl tbe remedy. Thia are exactly wbat we have been takinl an is tbe remedy. tbe time. (1) Quality. What we have been layiDI il that our scbools are devoid of quality. (2) Social justie, that is education to be a9ailab1e irrespective of parents" Therefore, it is not so mucb cbaracter capacity to pay. What we have been say- bui Iding by tb e volition of tbe teacber. He ing is tbat we have a elitist system no. bas to do wbatever be has to but somewhere if a few parents can pay a hip fee tbinl more needs to be done, eDvironment even i'their children are duds, they can needs to be improv ed. If tbat stud ent is 10 and get a seat in those institutions. living in an environment wbich is un- This is the position today. This is not healtby for thought, deed, everytbing, then loing to be the position in that school. we cannot expect a miracle to be done, to (3) Merit.based and cultivation of talent. be achieved only by tbe teacher. Now, I come to e~act figure and facts in a minute. Please do not get restlers. Now I am coming to tbo question Utility and social purpose conforming to which has been rather worryinl everybody accepted national policies includiq tbe bere and it is what are called 'model polic) of th~ three language formula which schools·. Now, I want the attention of is not acceptable in certain areas, but we tbe hone members on this and no interrup- will accept it and introduce it and imple- tion until I have fin ished. ment it in tbese schools wherever the schools are Situated including area where tbe Statel do not accept tbis, AN HON. MBMBER : You are takiDg too much for granted. That is why you And it will be to their benefit. Num- want no int errupdon. ber five: They have largely rural coverage aDd six: fostcring national integration. SKRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Be- Wben aod as these institutions ar e esta- cause I want to explain thinls and put bI jsbed-this is vecy important-an ela- them in tbe right perspective. In my borate scheme to radiate quality from statement, I have given certain parameters them would be formulated and implemen- of these schools. I would like to place ted draMnl from expericnce, as we 10 them before tbe House again since some along. This school is noi going to be an members were too mucb pre-occupied with ivory tower, tbis school is not goinl to be tbe walkout tbe other day. I am sure, a small isolated school, a small ialand of tbose who walked out and may be those exceUcuce iD a sea of .mediocrity. This is who did not ••• Dot ,oin, to be like that. This Is more or less loinl to be according to what Dr. SHRIMATI GEBTA MUKHERJEE: Kothari bas said when he talked of pace settinl institutioDS. Even if it is not I WaDt to put tbe record strailht. We identical in concept the idea of talent had requested tbe Sperker to 10 on with cultivation has been accepted on all banda. tbe debate so tbat we eould participate. Now the poult is, Dot only thIs, 08 SHill P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : It tbe other side of tbe spectrum, other end bas been done. It is aU for your bene6t. of the spectrum. if there is a bo) Or lid, At your beheat, tbis is being done rot who . is substaadard for various reasons; three days instead of onc. First. lot me we Win have to help them to come up to tell you that tb is p~ogramme is a total the standard. And if on this end there it pr

[Sbti P. v. Narasimha Rao] marks ranging from 93 per cent to 75 per Now, here is the most important thing:· ceot! Including one Scbedul ed Caste I am really astonished at tbe amount of student standing first one of tbe blocks! disbelief on the part of the Member of This is the available talent. The rallge of Parliament in the talent available in the marks in Amaravati school is 91 per cent villages in our country. I am really to 74 per cent. With the result that astonished. We had an idea of opening althougb these scbools have giveD reserva- two such schools on an experimontal tion according to whatever scale is in basis. vOlue; the SC +ST boys did not even need reservation! Tbey got maDY more than the SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobicbe· reserved seats. In ODe school perhaps it ttipaligam) : I referred to it. has come to almost SO per cent of tbe entire admissions. And, why not? If SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : You these candidates who were otherwise referred to it, but 1 would like to ten you getting reser.-atioDs, do not need reserva.. that there was no firm date decided be- tion, jf on their own merit they are cause we did not want to start balf·baked able to secure admissions of this order and half-readY schools and become a point spontaneously, this something of a revela- of ridicule by everyone. tion. Their testing was spontaneous, they SHRI P. KOLANDAIVBLU : It was did not koow they were going into this already announced. scbool, nobody coached tbem, nobody started a teaching shop for them. We just SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : No. went and just caught them, wherever they In this year it was announced it. There is were, and had a test and this is the result. nothing sacrosanct about this. Tltese are Now, bow many lakhs and lakhs of such two experimental scbools. students may be languishing-because, we do not have a school to admit IDd give It so bappened that there are some tbem free education! matters incomplete in regard to the construction of bu ildings and so on th ey will be looked into. But what 1 really want MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Sir, are to emphasise is this fact, that for these tbey first generation students beeause there two experimental schools all the other may be some lAS officers' sons or some- thinls were done, notably, ~lection of body? children. And this is where 1 want tbe real talent of the countryside to be teco- SiIRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : anised by you. The analysis of the Absolutely first generatiol,l, studentS from entrance tests held recently for tbe two the villagers, bcJODging to tbe Scheduled model schools at Jhajjar in Haryan and Castes. We do not have 91 per cent Amaravati in Maharashtra revealed some marks in others. 'interestin& rCiulta. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : What will PR.OF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHAK- happen to 'Y' number which will (omain TAW AT (Chittorlarh) : Why not in Rajas- outSide? than?

SHRJ P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : We [ TraIlS/alton] "HI do it. Next year it is comins in any Qae. I am only trying to cODvince thoae SHRI RAM DHAN (Lalaanj): There who ab iIIltio are against tbese &Chool.. If are DO Scheduled Tribe. in Haryana •••• _ I can evon soften tbem a little, it would ( Int.rrllPllonl' be aood. AU the otbers are in favour, I bow. SHill P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : I am not talkiOl about the Scheduled TribCl but In tbe list of selected candidate. 80 about tho Scbceul cd Caslos. from Jbajjart 20 Scbcdulod CUte and ~.bcG\lle4 Tdbc ~anGiclatel baYe ICGUtOd ...('nt,tTflptlon,) ~97 Motion re : 'Challenge AGRAttAYANA 2J', 1~01 (SAgA) 0/ EJuca,ion-A PolicY ~98 Perspective'

SHRI RAM DHAN : I want' the the lower standard and not from tbe Government of India should adopt this Eighth standard as is sought to be done in policy in respect of I.A.S. also. in the case of d.strict model schools. an I.A.S. examination 24 candidates had obtained better marks as compared to SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : The general candidates, but they were appoio- examination was held for students in the ted aaainst the reserved category and not fifth class. The school is going to be from in the general category .•• (lnterruptions) class 6th to c]as& 12tn. Thfs is the same thing as in Andbra Pradesh except tbat SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : Now, here it is higher Secondary and there it is yoU have started an altogetber a different High School. subject ... (Interruptions) About technical education, one point [Engli~h] which would like to highligh t and 'ybich has been highlighted by several MeJ){bers, Mr. Jaipal Reddy knows, when he was is the capHa.tion ree-selli~-~ education MLA-he had been an MLA as IODg as we to the highest bidder, who probably will remember -we had certain schools opened get it back from dowry. All these have on these lines iD Andhra Pradesh. The been highlighted. Shall I take it that this record of those schools has been scin- means an endorsement of the House that tillatingly bright. In the Tenth class exa.. we should do something ab~ut it, put our mination, nunlbers one to ten almost foot down and see wba t we can do it? invariably have bagged by these schools. Who are they? They are not landlords; SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS : Yes~ tbey are not from the cities; they are ordinary childreD of ordinary people. I had SHRI S. JAIPAL KEDDY: As a na- visited those schoo is myself becauje I had tional policy! something to do with the starting of those schools. We had made analysis of the SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO : I do class composition of tbese boys. I have not have to ela borate this, but this is one got the aO'llysis wlth me here over tbe last pOint I wanted IO ask about and on this I ten years. I can tell you that the talent am very happy and very grateful to the whicb we have been able to spot in the Hou3e for having given me this sanction .•• village5, is somttbing fantastIc. It is (Interruptions) Now I have got what I unbelie vable. This is what we want to wanted froID the House. The rest of it cater to and not to make it a high brow you and I, everybody will put our beads institution. It is going to be in sheds, I together, go into the nitty gritty Stat ewise , do not ko.:>w. I do not have buildings. I districtwise, school-wise. am not going to spend Rs. 2 croces for a building, as has b !en said bere and there out of ignorance. That is not the idea. I 1 am prepared to sit with an} one who am going to go to State Governments, ask W,lnts to discuss any educational problem them for the building, give m~ one ZiJa in any areJ of this country because there is PaClsnad scbool out of the wbole district no such tbing as a national average. You anywher e they wish or aive me land or have to 10 to the last I~vel, lowest level some abandoned buildings, PWD buildings, where education is being imparted. project building4J-tbere arc so many buiidangs which are abandoned, people are About sports and otber activities which just taking bflCks out of them-wbictl are come under this umbceJla, I have not said not being put to use. 1 am prepared to put anything because it IS only about this them to use. So, we will sit witb the Challenge of Education tbal we have been state GovcrameaU and try to find out wbat discussina.... (lNerl'UpJions) tbeY caD do. P&OF. SAIFUDDi.N SOZ: What SH.R.I S. JAIPAL REDDY: It it not about vooational and lccbo ical (; ct. ca t iOD, rol,vaat b.ca"so Ule recruitment is frOID Sir 1 ~99 Motion re : 'Chali,nge bECsMBER. 12, 198~ of &i.. ctltlon-A Potlcy ~()() P.rsp~cti,e'

[Prof. Saifuddin Soz] tbe extent it is feasible under the overall cODstraints as you know, but it will be im.. DR. SUDHIR ROY (Burdwan): plemented. What about democratic management? SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (Jabalpur>: AN HON. MEMBER : What about the What about Nee, Sir. expansion of technical education. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: NCC SHitl P.V. NARASIMHA RAO; I bave is Dot under me, it was. Now it is NSS already said about that. and NYK. But, in any case, I have not really lost my touch with the N':C. We Today we have more than 20,000 CDli- are preparing a ."ery widespr ead ~cbeme of neers unemployed in this· country. What certain programmes being taken up by the do J do with the engineering colleges and NCC~ by the NS, and by the Nehru Yuvak the engineers? So, what is needed today Kendras. We have about three mil1ion is a diffel eDt kind of technical educatioD. strong force, one million NCC~ one million It may not be totally different but it wi)) NSS and maybe O:1e million Nehru Yuvak be substantialJy different because what we Kendras or maybe much more if we redly need today is the middle level technician organise all the Kendras. So, we have a and not tb e h igb 1eve) t ecbni cian or tbe very huge youth force in this country which graduate. I am told that the number of can be put to very good use, and because nurses per doctor in th is country is shock- an these have now come und\!r one r..1inis- ingly Jow, I am told that the number of try, it is going to be much easi er for us to heaHh workers in this country is sbockiog- organise it than it was before. Even then Iy low. We will have to take uP. eitber it was organised, but now it is goin.'J to be as part of the vocationalisatioD or as an much easier. So, I will come back to the independent activity or independent pro- Parliament, or if the Members want, I gramme in itself, a massive programme of will certainly like to take them into confi- getting these jobs properly tauaht and dence at the proper time. The things are these boys and girls properly train ed so beim; work ed out. that the entire gamut of our services, On vocational educatio n, unfortunately whether medical serviceS or engjneeriag we have not been able to make any plan services or health serviccs, does not be- outlays so far. I must first make that con- come lopsided. If there is a hospital in fession. Althou&h we are all wedded to which you have four operation theatres vocational education, in the present scheme five or six surpons and on.y one anaesthe- of things as the plan allocations for the tist, be becomes a boltleneck. So, we do Seventh Plan stand, it has not been found Dot went these human bottlenecks to be possible to accommodate vocational educa- formed everywhete as it is happeninl today tion, but we are not going to give it up. unfortnnately. We will go ioto it in We had set up a committee, and that great detail. One word about Adult Edu- committee hal given a.Report, a very prac- cation. tical, feasible kind of Report which needs to be imp) emeoted and probably-I am SHRI RAM SINGH YADA V: What not again making a commitment-with tbe about teachers? commitment for vocationalisation that wo have, it is just unthinkabl e, &0 far as I am SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: I concerned. that we should not have any have told you. They are loinl to let .ssis- allocation for vocationaliaation at all in tance from us. the plan. We mUlt have it. We will find it. How much, to wba t etxent, will depend SHRI RAM SINOH YADAV: What on the result ot our efforts. In the nest few about d ilcipliac in schools? weeks, I wil1 come back to ParUamcot with whatever bas been worked out. But I SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: Firat would like to assure you tbat YOQtionali. thio, is assistance. If thore is nothio. ptioD will not be janoled, wilJ DOt be put thole. there ia DO discipline also! We will OD the shclf. It wJ1I be implimcatod to havo to livo tbem somethiDl b cfort w. 301 MDlID" r, : 'Clrallen" AGRARAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) of Educatiorz-A PolicY 302 Per,p~ctlH' aet them into some kind of order there. I Members of Parliament and a1l others who will not go into those details just now be· are interested would give a helping band. cause they are being worked out. Because, it is their programme. This is a programme of all of us. Ultimately they About adult education, again, this is would )ike this programme to succeed. something wb ich has been .sometimes mali- Now, as we go aloDg, I will be reporting rned, sometim,es glorified, and most of ~he (rom time to time and tak ing the House time ignored. . This is what I wou!d lake into confidence. Sir, I have taken a very Members of Parliament to consider. Even long time. I conclude. if you are able to plug aU the drop outs (which itself is something very, very diffi- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Sir, I want culd you will hl.ve to keep going tbe pro- to seek a clarification. I wJlI take only gramme of Adult Education on a commen~ three minutes. surate scale and at a level of high efficiency. Because ultimately, it is only the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You mother who can really do sometbing in the can't take tbree minutes. Be brief. What service of tbe nation in order to bring is the clarification you want? about all round d eve)opment in the per. sonality of the child. So, it will have to PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I want be a massive programme. At the moment clarification on one or two points. I will it is not big. I do not know how mucb not take much time. I know I have taken money we wilJ have for it. But the idea some time already. (Interruptions) He must and the intention is this-to have aduJt attend to what I say. (Interruptions) I am education str~ngtbeDed to whatever extent not raising any issues. For his opening it is possibl e. Aga in in this, our youth, our remarks and his speech, I must congratu- NSS our Nee a1l tbeserorces which wehave, late the Minister; we agree with it. But may 'be of immense belp to u~. They will my question is this: Will he agree with also be of help to us in conducting surveys. us in one thing? Will be now re-arrange We really do not know about many things. the priorities, will he now re-adjust the If you have some sma)) organisation to priorities to see that the first area of thrust conduct a survey, the) may go to the vill. is Elementary Education? Will be do it 'I age and come back and they may not find Model schools and otbers will come later whtt all they want to find tbere. At that on. That is number on e. Will you eva. moment, a person may be absent who luate your Human Resources Development could give them the real information. On and mak ~ it compulsory that Health should the other hand these boys and girls com· be a part of your Ministry? Then, Dumber ing for the villages could live us l?t of three is this ••• (ln:~rrllptio1U). I want a information, tbey could get as lot of Infor. five week discussion of this Status Paper mation. Our ing tbe holidays for instance by topmost experts in this country. Then wben they go to their own villages they finaHy, Sir, .•• can do tbe survey. It is such an interesting job-aoiDg from house to bouse, place to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Already place, man to man, woman. to wo~an; an.d what you have told. be bas accepted. Why asking for their views, asking their POSI- are yau saying the same thing again? We tion, etc. So, whether it is ~~nomic or go to the next subject,-Items No. 13 and ",cial or political or whatever It IS, a tho- No. 14. roulb surve, of the conditioos in the ville qel "an be achieved only by deploying PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I want tbis very larle force -of youth in tbis conn- tbo .ame steps for NCERT and NEPA. So try. ,They will also be useful in Adult far as tbe UGC i. concerned, I am not Education proarammes. happy witb its working. UGC could have the same position as tbe Medical Council Now we have started this exercise of of India •• •(1ut.rruptlo1J3). CaD the Uni. a«dlll aU these into a musive prOlramme vertity Grants Commission do 8D)'thinl for of education in this country as part of Hu- re-arraDgiq .••••. (1"'.""pr;nlU). I dOD't un- maD Reaoarces Developmerat. I wi,b tbat derstand tbem. 303 Putwah.[slampur Light DBCEMBER 12, J 985 (NatlonalisaIIOll) Bill 304 RIJIlwayLllfe and Suppl. D./or G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Prof. Saifuddin Soz] Futwah.Is)ampur Light Railway is a MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: No, you 43.45 km. Jong narrow gauge line taking bave already spoken, off' from Futwah station on tbe Patna-Mo- kemb main line. It is owned by tbe Fut- (Interruptions) wah-IsJampur Light Railway Company Limited. The track and rolling stock of SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: I tbis Jj'1e are in a dilapidated condition. take all this as your views. Okay? Running of trains on this line is, therefore hazardous from the safety point of PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Wbat is view. your response to it? I want your response. , (IIIter11lptions). Why are you crying? I -. Moreover, the Futwah.Is)ampur Light don't understand it. RaJl,,:ay Company hls been suffering heavy workIng losse~. The Government is requi- SHRI AJAY MUSH RAN : You c3n't red to ensure an interest of 3.5 % on the go on talking like this. You had already paid .. up share Capita) of the Company taken balf-au-hour for speak~ng. besides meeting rhe worki·lg losses. The subsidy paid during 1983-84 alone amoun- ( Interruptions) ted to Rs. 14.76 lakhs.

The assets of the Company are proposed to be taken over through the present 15.31 hrs. Je,isJation by paymert of an amount of Rs. 19.29 lakhs as compensat ion. FUTWAH-ISLAMPUR LIGHT RAILWAY LINE (NATION \LISATION) BILL It is proposed that, after nationaJisation AND aJI. the eJigible employees of the Light SUPPLEMENTARY DEMAND FOR Railway be absorbed against vacancies on GRANT (RAILWAYS)* 1985-86 the Indian Railways. Sir, with these words, I would commend [Engli~h] tbe Bin for consideration of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Mr. Deputy.Speaker , Sir, the Snpple- DEPARTMENT OF RAILWAYS (SHIll mentary Demand for Grant (Railways) for MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): Sir, I beg to J 9 85·86 may also be discussed aloDg with move:· this. "That the BIll to provide for the acquisition, in the publ ic interest, of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Yes, tbe undertakings of the Futwah-Isla- both wi)) be discussed togethc:r. Motion mpur Light Railway Company L'mi· moved : ted in relation to the Futwah-Islam· pur Light Railway Line and for "That the Bill to provide for the matters connected therewith or inci- acquisition, in the public interest, of dental thereto, be taken into consi· tbe undertakings of the Futwah-Is- deration," Jampur Light Railway CompaDY Limited in relation to tbe Futwab- The House is aware that in the palt Islampur Light Railway Line and for assurances have been given that a Bill (or matters connected therewith or inci- oationalisation of the Futwah.ls)ampur deDtal ther eto, be taken into consi- Liaht Railway will be brought before the deration." Parliament. This DiU was introduced in the House on 21. 11.1985 and is before MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Motion tbe House DOW. moved :

• Moved with the recommendation of "That tbe r espectiv e supplemeatary tbe President. BumS Dot excecdin, the amouat8 305 Futwah.l,lampur Light AORAHAYANA 21. 1907 (~AKA) (Natlonall~atlO1l) Bill 306 Railway Line and Supple D. lor G. (RlW)s) 1985.86

!lbown in the third column of the Sir, I am sorry to point out in al1 these Order Paper' be granted to the Presi- spheres the Railways ·have failed misera- dent of India out of the Con~o1idated bly. HundTed~ and tbousands of crores Fund of India to defray the charges have already been spent on these projects that will come in course of payment and the plogTe~s has been nil. There is during the year ending the 31 st day nothing for which tbis Government can of March,.., t 986, in respect of the take credit. heads of Demands entered in the second column thereof-Demand Now~ the Railways have been clubbed No. 16." with other transport wings. Now it is just another wing of the Ministry of Transport Supplementary Demand for Grant Railways and Jost its ideot ity. Indian Railways are for 1985~86 submitted to the Vote ofLok the secor d largest railways s},stem under Sabha one management in the wodd rnd the lar- _----- gest single undertaking not only in the country but in Asia with a capital invest- No. of Name of Amount of De- ment of around 1

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Both the Sir, the modernisation programme is Bill and the Suppl ementary Demands for not at all satisfactory. There is hardly Grants are before the House. Time allo.. any nlodernisation. Signalling system is tted for this discu!sio.l is four hours. still based 00 the obsol et e methods. Our Railways have yet to go for automatic Mr. Srihari Rao may initiate the di~cu warning system. ssion. 1534. brs [Translation] [SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN ·SHRI SRIHARI RAO (Rajamundry) : in the Chair] : The Government have come before the House seeking approval for the Supple- Track is old which is ca u~ing many mentary Demands for Grants amounting to accidents every day_ That ;s not Rs. 433 crores for Railways. It is said being replaced speediJy and as a result of that this amount is intended to be spent it our tra ins are running slower than for expediting the proaress of ongoing bullock carts. Rol1 ing stock designs are works/schemes under the various plan out moded. Loco engines are yet to be beads like Rolling Stock, Line Capacity replaced. Electrific.ation programme Is Works, Track R.enewals, EJectrification going on at a sna ii's pace. Die~el is beinl projects, sianall ing and Telecommunica· imported every year worth several hundred tions, Workshops etc. crores and as such we are losing mucb of our foreign exchange. If we switch over • rbe speech was origina lJy delivered to electric trains we can Dot only conserve in Telqu. Pluch of our foreiSn cxcbaDle reserves b\1t ,., I'IuwQ1t-ls1t1mpw Ugh' DBCBMBBa 12, 1'85 (Na"tJIItJlIsGtlDn) Bill 508 RaIlway Line and Supple D. lor G. (Rlw},s) 1985.86

[Sbri Srih ari Rao] on river Godavari in AP has been pain- allO make the rallwavs journey cheaper, fully slow. At present this work has been comfortable economical and safer. Sir, in suspended. I roqueflt the Min1stry to tbts connection, I want to add tbat one of direct the concerned person to expedite the most important routes in the countJ'f the work to complete tbe bridge early. _me)y, Madras-Calcutta bas not so far An allocation of Rs. 2 crore! was made in been thought of for electrification. It is the budget for electrification of Kazipat- one of the oldest lines in the country. Sanatnagar Section. For some unknown Botb passenger and frei&bt traffic on this reasons the alJocatioD.. was reduced. Ire.. route fetches more revenue than any other quest tbat sufficient money be aJlocated routes. It runs through 4 States. There for speedy completion of e1ectrification of is every Deed to electrify this route as Kazipet-Sanatnagar Section. early as possible. I hope the Government Sir, for the past 2S years, not a siolle would tak: it up immediately. AloDg with new railway line has been laid in Andhra this I urge upon the Govelnment to take Pradesh. The Railway Minister continu es up electrification programmes of all the to neglect AP even to tbis day. There are important routes and especially those which several new lines which have been pending connect Sta te Capitals immediately. before the Railway Ministry for sanction. Sir, survey bas been ordered for the I earnestly request the present Mini~ter to 'Katinada-Kotipalliline via Ramachandra- depart from the past practice of negl ecting puram almost a yeal ago. But tbe survey AP and sanction all these Jines or at least work bas been going on very slowly. Th;s a few Jines in the immediat e future and do route does not require much of investm~nt. justice to my State. All the necessary infrastrcuture is availabl e tbere. All that the RaiJways have to dry Sir, the present increas e in traffic should not be mistaken for improved per- is to lay the track and run tbe train on it. Now the population in the area has gone formance of Railways since there is no other go, peop1 e are rravell ing by trains. up to 10 lacs and there will be good income. The Government must give priority I suggested severa) times in this very Hou 'C, that tbe bon. Minister and other to the construction of such lines, for the cost aod time required for construction of top officials of the Ministry should trave- iJcognito in trains to get first band knowl sucb lines will be very less and they yie1d ledge of the problems and difficlJJties of the a good revenue. passenger.;. There ~re many irregularities Sir, at Nidadavolu in A.P. a ftyover and take action against the erring officials, was sanctjoned this year. But the execu- tbe condition of Railways can improve tion of the work is being delayed. It is considerably. It will be a fine example of almost one year since the ftyover wag democracy, if the Minister himself goes sanctioned. I request that this ftyover out to meet the common people' and solve mould be completed at least during 1986. their probl ems. Sir, Vishakhapatnam is one of the mos\ Sir, Rajiv Gandhi wants to tak~ the important cities in the counlry. Besides country to 21st century. His Government being a port, it is also an industrial, should try to improve the conditions of commercial and educational centre. Pub- Indian Railways which are stiJl in early lic Sector Undertakings are located' here. Nioeteenth century. Steps have to be Vi zag steel plant is fast coming up. Yet, taken to brina in the revolutionary chan.el tbere is no direct train between New Delhi in the Railways. Transport capacity bas and Vishakbapatnam. I take this opportu- now reached a plates u and additional out- nity to request tb Minister to bifurcate the put is pOssibl e only on the basis of adequate preteDt AP Express at Kazipet and run inve.tments to increase capacity and pro- atleast 7 borics upto Visakapatnam. I ductivity. Durin. the 6th Plan our perfor- bope be wiU concede this request of mine mance was not lood. At I east durinl the immed ia reJy. 7th plaD we should try to mAke up for the 10SI otherwise it wi)) be very difficult to Tbe work OD tbe Tbird B.ailwa)' bridfa ,,"b aDd stop ioto the 21st centur, Sbri l09 PutwaIJ.rs)ampu,. Light AGRAHAVANA 21, .907 (SAKA) (NtUfonaliJafion) Bill 310 Railway LIM and Suppl. D./or G. (Rlwys) 198j.86 Madhav R~o Scindia who is looking after tunity to lend my belping hand to m, Railways is young and energetic Minister. (r iend, Shri Madhavrao SciDdia, wbo has I hope he would infus e dynamism and im- taken my place in looking afLer the Rail. prove the Railways. ways. With my experience 1 have found tbat Sir, thanking you for giving me this it is Dot always left to the wilJ of the opportunity. I c,~nclude my speech. Ministry or of the Railway ~ Board; tbe problem is more either with the PLnniDI [Engli,sh] Commission or with the Finance Ministr,. Genera])y we talk about new railways SHRI JAFFAR SHARIBF (Ben~alore ) ines. new trains, new Station~ a11 sorts of North) : Mr. Chairman, I have taken this things that we need. But we forget thote opportunity to speak on the Sup;>lement ary basic areas wbere we sbould begin, the Grants as I felt this is the opportune timt=. people who run the system. I would like General'y, many of our Members of Parlia- to draw the atten~ion of my friend-I ment speak elaborat ely on the railway know be is workin, harder than I did; he budget, the Budget which already prepared must be already aware; nevertheless, I and presented to the House. So, gen era))y would like to bring it to his notice-to the scope is limited and whatever is being the fact that th e basic area which deserve discussed at the time of the railway budget his attention is the railway colony. Just is going to be on ly useful for the next now we haY'e heard the Education Minister Budget. I have chosen this particular time referring to the environment.. What is tbe because in the next Session when we meet, environment here? It is the railway tbe railwdY Ministry will come before this colony. It is traditional in the Railways House with the Railway B~dget. This is tb~t the raHwasmen's children take up jobs the exact reason for me to choose tbis in the Railwq,ys. It is here that much opportunity to make certain observations after quietly observing the functiolling of requires to be do:] e. Wbatever we ha~e today is the legacy whicb bas been left the railways. I have the unique opportu- behind by tbe Britishers and the Rajas nity of associating with the railways for and Maha ajas -what the British contributed nearly four )e us and t en month~; more or and what the itaja and Maharajas of thOSe less I have to say, I have completed a full days contributed. We have used thOle term. With roy experience and a little assests to tbe maximum extent withouI knowledge that I have bec=n abJe to gain au, further investment. Nobody thinks of during my tenure, I must say, I must this seriously-neither the Planning complement the railways that it has its Commjs~ion nor the Finance Ministry, nor ability to deliver the goods or to undertake even the Railways themselves because of any challenge if any task in given to our interference and pressures. We are them. not concerned about how the railways I have always held this view-I have staff work, whether they bave proper quare gone on record many times on the 800r of ter~, whetaer they have proper educational tbis House-the,t next to Defence, if there facihties for their childre1" , whether they is any system which can take up challenges have proper healtb care; we do not look and complete tasks, it is the Railways. We into these-wbat we want is that the Rail- also know tbat tbis is a very basic in- ways should run. So, it is here that we frastructure for our economic growtb. I must pay some attention. I reque~t Dl)' have observed in tbis Hovse-and tbere is young friend, Shri .vladbavrao Scindia, to nothing to complain about; it is but natu- visit the railway colonies. I had the pri. ral-tbat tbe Members of Parliament who vdage-my friend, Mr. Narayan Cboube) , come here would generally like to repre- knows-of v hitinl KbaralPur in tbe sent their States or Constituencies and the Eastern Rai1way. There is a whole towa- problems relating to tbem. Although I ship which has come up tbere; there is an bave a few such points to mention, because elected municipality; such is the system of my association with the Railways, I there. To maintain tboae asscats, wbat 11 peraoDally rool tbat I malt tate this oppor- the CODtributiOll? 3 t 1 Futwdh.lslampur Light DECEMBER 12, i985 (Nationaiisation) Bill 3J 2 RaUway Li"~ and Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwy,s) 198'.86

[Shri laffar Sharief] have any coal. We used to monitor every. The contribution during our time waS day its movement. about Rs. 5 100 cror e' or we might hav e Sir, during our time, I must say in all got a little more. Now it is about Rs 2000 fairness, with the talent available with us crores per annum whereas for the planning in the RaiIways-I hope they have better period it will be about Rs. 8000 crores. talent today; I am sure about it-they What is this amount'll am sorry, tbls- Came out with two novel ideas. One bardest being the supplementary demands, we factor in the Railways is the line capacity generally know that the Prime Minist er and to increase the line capacity the cost and the Finance Minister are not loing to of investment is more and the time con. be here in the House. But 1 am sure, what- suming factor is also more. So, the best ever we express will go to their notice or tbat could be possible is to use the existing my friend will carry it to tbem. line capacity availabl~. For that wbat We did was to have double heading of the I hav;! heafd that my friend spends a trains Carrying more passengers on the lot of tim~ in his office even at odd hours. same line capacity at the same time than I would advise him rather to spend time in the lumboo rail system, carrying bulk of the Railway Bllard, he must spend t~me the commodity from one end to tbe other, with the Pianning Commission, with the have boosted our revenue. Railways started Finance ~inistry and with tbe Prime mobilising resources, building up resources Minister to see th'lt, whatever he com- which always the PJanning Commission or mand..; as his J)oHtical equations, he shouJd the Finance Ministry say that you are not be able to bring more resources. For the doing it poperly. To-day it is no secret, it rest of it, I have already said, tbe Rail- is on records and one can compare 1978-79 ways have the ability to run tbe show. and 1979r-80 with 1980.. 81, 1981-82, I was ju;t going through the Railway 1982.83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 and on- Convention Committee Report where they wards and see what is going on and how have made certain recommendations. I the Railway have worked to mobilise tbe observe tbe economy, the economy on the resourses. When the railways are struggl- steam. Naturally it is a costly affair. Only ing to mobilise the resources, it is the two ~,ystems, i.e., diesel and electricity are responsibility of the Planning CommIssion, going to be the cheapt er ones. Ultimately 1t is the resp.)nsibility of the Finanace our national p.)licy and oue goal is to go in Ministry "nd it is tbe responsib ility of the for electrification. leadership of the country to give aJ) support so that the b.iSic economic structure Sir, I would very much suggest that whicb is so essential to our econolnic ihis is the particular time when-whateVer growth is preserved. Here, again another Mr. Nar.lyan Choubcy may sho~t, (hey are two areas I would hke to point out to my we:lk today; we hllve a mlssive mandate, friend which are normally beir.g neglected there are another four years before the by the Railways. Railways are dominated next e}ection~; I am sure he wil] also be by two things. One is traffic and mechani- one with us-we should go (oward) achiev- cal and engineering. They have brought ing our national goal. another one or two systems I ike Medical SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midna- and the Police - RPF. Now you have taken pore) : OLherwise yuu wi Ii lose the next the entire responsibility of the RPF. It is elections. a good thing tbat you bave done. Here again those areas are not beina properly SHRI JAFFAR SHARIEF : I am sayin, taken care of. I would suggest to my friend this p:uticu!ar:y because tbe sbape of that they should not feel orphaned. Ultima. bingJ when we took over in 1980- tely, it is the Board-the Members comins 1978-79, 1979-80 and.1980 81, although from various discipljnes decide and tbey we took over in 1980-was in shambles. tcmain there as the custodians and when- The p..>wer h:>tlses never used to have coal, ever they are coming out with 60me SOlt neither the steam plan~s, nor the wasbery, of modificatioo-I do not know-if they DO production oriented industry used to are comiDl up, it is well and lood. OtbCI. 3 t ~ Putwah-'~lampur Light AGRAHAYANA 21, 1909 (SAKA) (Nationalisation) Biil 314 Railway Line and Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwy,) 1985.86 wise, the Minister should take particular 16.00 brs. care when nobody represents them on the Now, coming to another thing, about Board which is the final authority. my own area and the constituency, although I will not speak for tbe constituency but I Now com ing to certain other areas, wi II certa inly speak for the region. Oth er- about the passenger amenities which we wl'"e people will feel tbat we have not talk about here,. one thing I want to say. done justice to tbem. Though I plead that we shou1d concentrate more on passenger amenities, I do not We took up certain projects :luring our u:.derstand the logic of going in for some time. You bave come out in Supplemen- Yatri Niwas or something like that. Va- tary Grants allocation for on-goingprojects. rious agencies are there. Now the Minist- I would Jike to know the deflnaticlJ of on .. ires are being regr luped. There are various going project. Is an on-going project going a~encies which take care of it. The basic to be st~pped just because tb~ ~overnnlent re~p.)nsibility :f the rai!way.., is transport. or the Mir.isler has changed? It is a We h'lve gone into catering. We have gone very sad state of affairs. Even dur ing our into health- We have gone into ~o many as- time and earHer to us when Shri H.M. pects which are essential for the system. Pate' was the Finance Minister and a rair- But this is an area-although I am r.ot ~oing way line was sancfioned in Guj~rat. Later to op~ose it and you are not spending on a Congre)s M.P. got elecfed f:-om that much money on it-about whicb I wauld area. He came and started fight ng \'\ itb ask whether reaily and genuinely we need us that he has to face the people"s music it or we ~hou Id allo\\' it to be "looked after because we are not g'ivillg enough funds. by other agencies. The Tourism Mini ~try We alJ(lw~d that ~cheme to continue. When is there and a number private sector we come out wi th a scheme it is not merely agencit's a, e there •.•• the Raiiwa, Ministry which does. It goes to the PJanning Commi~sioD. It goes to MR. CHAIRMAN: Please now COD- the Finance Ministry. We feel sorry and clude. it pains us. We do not go by any regional b'as. We go by the total interests of the SHRI JAFFAR SHA~UEF: I just country and) particLllarly, in 3n area like started. Railways, which is tbe basJc economic sector, we cannot go by our likes and dis- Secondly comiD~ to the other areas- likes. We have to go by the tota1ity of tbe now that you have rung up tbe bell, I do country"s interests. Dot want others to feel tbat I am taking Sir, the backwardness of an area will their time. not go without the infrastructure. One argument put forward is that returns are MR. CHAIRMAN: I have given you not there. Sometimes develo,llment will suffici ent time .••• come only if the infra-structure is provided. These are two sides of tbe same coin. SHRI JAFFAR SHAR1EF: I would HeIe in their wisdonl the Planning Commi- say two things that you 5hould concentrate ssion, the Fio6lnce ~y'liDistry and the Rail- upon if you want to build up the economy ways come to a conclusion and take up of the country. One is electrification by some project and if that projtct is going to which you avoid tbe embarrassment of be stopped just because the Minister bas increasing the fre igh ts and fares every changed 'or the Government has chan&ed- year and you can bring (bero nown .. and forget about us. We are nOi important- make the freiabts and fares cheaper. what will the people think? We talk of Second is doubling of tbe line capacity national integrity. How will we eUSllre where do"bling is required. These are basic confidence in the mind of tbe 'peoph:? We thin,s. have to tak e care of tbis.

I have said already about the staff- Secondly. now tbe basic elfClrificatioD dabt from tho bottom to tho toP. should be our &oal. Tile Bana_lote J'llu,., j ,5 Putwa/a.lslampu, LI,;" CNationailsaliDn) hili 3i, RaUWtlY Line and Sup pl. D.lor G. (Rlwys) /985.86

[Shri laft'ar Sbariefl have to find mon ey. Therefore, Sir, I Hne was included in the Sixth Plan. It would strongly plead with tbe Finance was approved by the Planning Commission Ministry aDd the hon. Prime Minister to and passed by this Parlianlent. But in tbe give considered thought to my suggestions last Budget to my surprise J found it is not and make suffcieot allocation of funds e\'en in the Seventh Plan. This is very for various scheme,. More~ver. wben unfortuna t e. the Planning Commission once make allocation, should not inlerfeae with tbe Sim ilarly I must say let us not forget RaiJwa.Ys and tbey should aJlow them to duriog this period of 38 years there is en- do their job. With these few words, I ormous growth both economically and support. the Dempnds for the Supple- population-wise. Our responsibility has mentary (,cants for Railways. increased. This responsibility we cannot discharge by centralisation. You have SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL (Erandol) : come up with a new Division. I do not Mr. Chairman, Sir, in Railways we are know why you are shtrking about new suffering from five ·overs'. One is over Zones. You must dec:ntralise if you want time, second is over-staff, third is over effectiv\! functioning. Then only you can expenditure, fourth is over-due replace- monitor closely. The Railway Reforms ment of tracks and tbe fifth is over pres- Committee recommended the formation of sure for the construction of unremunerative Zones. I do not know whether this reco- new railway Jines. Sir, we have introduced mmendation is being put to c0Jd stor age. modernisation. But we are fiot able to You must mak e a hqinning on it. There reduce the number of employees vis-a·vis is a feeling tbat althourh from Karnataka rail track per kilometre and we are not four Cabinet Ministers were there-I was able to control the Dumber of employees tbe last junior-yet we did no~ do much in Communication also. for Karnataka because we neier had a Then, Sir about 17,000 kilometres of bia~ed approach towards our region. We ra ilway track are over-due for replacement. bad a total approach. As we have not As my friend, Shri Jaffar Shari ef mentioned been able to do much now people say about the bridges, the bridges are includ ed since you did rot do much you are not in the tracks also. The speed of the super. there also. I h:lve assured tbem If I am fast trains have to be minimised because yet my not there lood friend is there. of these old bridges and old ra ilway tracks. SHRJ MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The The d~Dger of accidents is increasing credit for Wheel and Axle plant having although Sbri Bansi Lal and Shri Madha- been set-up at B~ngalore goes to Mr. Jaffar vrao ScinJia along with their Rai:way Board Sbarief. 8taft are abl e to minimise the incidence of accidents ·during the last some months. But SHRI JAFFAR SHARIEF: Wo beve the danger is still there and it wilJ continue lot Wheel and Axle Plant in Banga)ore to prevail. Not only tbat. The average speed aDd I t~e the credit for having started and of the passenger trains has gODe dcwn. Even completing it. This Pia:1t was inaugurated the speed of the goods trains has gone by tbe late Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira down. If you compare the figure for Gandhi. But nevertheless many area~ like 1965·66 for diesel and 1968·69 for elect- Chitradurg Rayaah4lda rail way ) ink are rical goods trains, you will find ~hat in .till pencilll for wnicb fqnds were 1984, the speed il reduced to about 1.2 Dot made available. Then conversion of kilometres p:r hour as compared to 1.5 in Baoaa1ore·Mysore metre-gauge line into 1968 .. 69. Why is it 10 ? We are increasinl broad gauge is pendial, Harihar-Kottur our effici eo ey, we are trying to ince case tbe miami link is to be completed. speed of trains. But because of the overdue One more point which I would like to replacement of tracks for wbich neceascry poiDt out is that o overmen t must tak e care funds bave to be made avallabJe, arc not of tbe bridges. A number of bridges are able to achieve lood re:ultl. There is aD very old and tbere is a areat risk involved overpressure for cooatrucUOD of Dew ill tbll. Thia it alto aD area for nob ,011 um.mun ....'ive liDea. U )'ou 10 iDto til, ~17 Futwa".ls:ampur Light AORAHA\'ANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) (NationtdlsatiOll) Bill 318 Railway Line and Supple D./or G. (Rlwys) 1985.86 details of the railway network, you will and the Manmad-Owalior sectiOD will be is find thlt there more of railway network abl e to re(luce the Jead of exi~ting Central in the northern part of India, but the railway line between Delhi and Bombay. I percentage of return to jnvestment is urge upon the Minister to consider tbis negative. It is minus figure for the Rail- seriously. ways in tbe Northern region. The Central Railway has got' less network of railway There is one more point. There are Jine, but the return to investment is plus some States, for exampJe tbe State of in the Centra J Railway. (Interruptions) Maharashtra. who are ready to contribute something through employment guarantee I agree with the hone Member tbat in to the workers for earth work on railway this Ministry a~ compared to the otber lines, collection of metal and other fiaan. de;>artm':'nts •of the Central Government, cia) support for new railway lines. If tbe Minister C,ln exert his pressure for some States come forward with such pro.. sar.ction of new railway lines in his area, posals, it should be considered and their whether those are remunerative or un-tem· back log should be made good. unerative. But tn that context, I wou' d like to say th3t we have to think of remun. Since independence, lome thousand erative lines, those lines which can reduce kilometres of railway Hnes have been added, the distance between two stations of heavy but they have been added only in some traffic, as also startegk lines. The border Sta tes, not proportiolately in aH tbe Sta- States are given priority because of defen- teS. This imbalance needs to be correc- ce requirement~. Some States got prioriry ted. because the Ministers be longed to the~ Stat es, f\)r ex.lmpl e Uttar Prad e,h and With these words I conclude and supp- Bihlr. But one thing I want to repeat, ort the Supp~ementary Demands of the which I mentiont"d in 1977 thro!.Jgh quest- Railways. ions. is that we have to think of new Cent .. ral railwav line·,. There is a C~ntral rail- [ Translation] way line and a Wc!stern railway line bet. *SHRI R. ANNANAMBI (Pol1achi) : ween De'hi and Bombay, but the existing Mr. Chairman, Sir. I am grateful to you Central rairway line between Delhi and for giving me this opportunity to make a Bombay is more utilised by the Southern few sugge~tions on behe)f of my party railw.lYs. For example, the ~ect ion bet- th e A.I.A.D.M.K., on the SuppJeme"ntary ween Delhi and I (aTsi i~ overcrowded by Demands for Grants of the Railwa,s fOl the ~outh bound trains, that is, Trivandrum 1985-86. Through these supplementary Expre's, K. K. Express, Madras Express, demands the approval tbis House is Andbra Express etc. Between Bhusawal or being c;ought for a sum of Rs. 433 crores and Manm \d, the soutb bound trains- to meet tbe additional expenditure OD Ahamedabad .. Tri vandrum - Banlalor e Rail ways. Out of this, on!y a sum of Rs. crowd in. I would, therefore, suggest to 12.29 erores is being allocated to Southern tbe hone Minister that a survey should be Railways, which spreads over the four made for a new Central railway line bet- southern State§ of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, ween Meomad-Indole-Ouna-Gwalior. This Karnataka and Andhra Prad esh. will reduce the distance considerably by about 1 SO kms as c\)mpared to tbe present The primary reason for the economic Central railway line. and industrial backwardness in the four SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: I southern States is the exiitcnce of meue- think, all the unbiac;ed mood that Shri gauge track to maximum lengtb. When Jaffar Sbarief bad created in me bas been the raw materials are to be transported dispelled completeJy. from Northern States to Southern States and when the finished products are to be SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: By this tho backward area of the Central India, that is, ·The speech was"originally delivered \ill", "(~J!Sl will b"'lrcatly beDefited, in Tamil. 3 t 9 Putwo.lslampur Ltg'" DBCBMBBIl 12. 1985 (Natto"allsGtlon) Bill '320 Railwtly Line tlnl Supple D. for G. (Rlwys) 198$.. 86

[Sbri R. A'1nanam bi] cally backw~rd areas of Tamil Nadu will open up for development. transported from Southern States to Nor- thern Stat es, the tran~hipment of goods want theat the hOD. Minister of from metregauge to broadgauge causes r Railways hears the demand I am making. inordinate delay. 'Consecuently the He is interested in talking to another industrial progress is jeopardised. member. 34 years after Independence, in 1981 the Railway Board sanctioned Karor- [English] Dindigul BO projects. This has not made any significant progress because of inade- SHRI MADRA VRAO SCINDIA: I quate aHocation of funds for this project. have the hearing what the hone Member It was estimated at the time of sanction says. I have given tbe other ear to the that this project would cost Rs. 40 crores. otb er Member. But the progress or the project at the snail's pace makes us to suspect that [ Translation] ultimately the cost of tbe project may be of the order of Rs. 100 crores. I wish SHRI ~. ANNANAMBI: I demand that this important Karur-Dindigul BG that the Rallway Board should order a new project is completed befcre Tamil Nadu survey of Chamarajanagr-Sathyama ngaJam enters cetury. I want substanticll funds -~harapuram Patani Railway Project. to be aJlocated for this projec.t in Ta:-nil ThiS has been the 10Dg-standing demand Nadu. of the people of Tamil Nadu. In these Supplementary Demands a sum of Rs. 2.5 crores is allotted to . Sir, tbe Mengaloremail goes to Madras Integral Coach factory at Perambur. I am via Podanur and it does not toucb Coirn- sorry to say that for the past many years batore whicb is within 10 Kilometres from the metregauge coaches, metre gauge Podanur. Coimbatore is known as the engines and mrtregauge wagons are not Ma~chest~r of India with hundreds of being manufactured at all. In BO wagons, textde mills a~d foundries. I want that many modern and latest developments Mangalore MUll should touch Coimbato have been introduced. But tbe MG a1s? Similarly: De!hi Jayantbi-No. 13~~ whIch was stoPPIng In Tiruppur for t wagons look 1ike tbe mODuments of olden o 0 wo mInutes, IS not stopping now I time~. The old steam engine for MG h h MO . 0 want track is still hauling the goods wagons and t at ~ e lnlster should order the ha 1t r D~)hl Jayanthi at Tiruppur at least for passenger coaches. In tbe matter of MO t: mlDutes. 0 track, I am sorry to say that the Railway Administration is sbowing step-motherly progte~s attitude. This is not a baseJess allegation. The of Railways is the basis for the country s economic and industria 1 In the Railway Budget not even one- development. Tbe Railways a tenth of mon ey i~ spent on the develop. o re not gethn~ adequate aUOCation from tb ment of MG lines, leave alone the conver- PlannIng Com,11ission. I Sugest lha t the sion of MG into BO track. It is s id hon. Transport Minister should mad: that during the 7th Five Year Plan, a be ~ember major portion of the allocation is for· a of the Central PJanning Commi- sSion and then alone the JOnt t f rehabilitation pro~ramme of the Railways. 01· eres s 0 R at ways will be protected. I wish that at least in the 7th Plan substantial money is allocated for the progress T.herc should be .. railway line between of MG lines. P?ndicherry an~ Bangalore via Villupuram, During British regime, a survey "as con- TuuvannamalaJ, . Krishnaairi. Kaveripat- ducted for tt e railway project frOID Chama- tanam, Ra,J.kottal and Osur. The Salem- rajanagar to Palani via Satbyamangalam ~Dlalore ~G line shou]d be converted and Dharapuram. If tbis project is tak.en l~to a DO hn~. Tbis will heJp the JOD, up for impJementation, then tho cbroni- dlstancc traIns (rom Kerala to 10 to 321 Putwtlh·l.,lampur Lith' AGRAHAYANA 21, Ito, (S.4U) (Nationallltltlon) Bill 3~2 RQI/way Lin, and Supple D./or G. (RIwYI) 198'.. 86 . Bombay, Delhi etc. via Ban galore. This [T,,,,,,latIonJ will save time and fuel. In my conlti· tuen~y, we have Dindigul.0Javakkod MO SHRI SHIV PRASAD SAHU (R.anehi) : 'line. I demand. that tbis must b,e conver. Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, tbrou.h you, I ted into 80 line. The Railway Ov~rbri. heat~ity support the Appropriation (Rail. dges were built during British rule envisaging ways) Bill presented by the han. Minister tbe growth of BG, lines. All the MG line and want to draw tbe attention of the hOD, which were laid by tbe Britishers must be Minister towards Bihar. You have elec- converted into DO track al early as POI- trified Railways or have laid n~ JiDes in esibJ. different part, of the country but it is a matter of regret that no provision for a The Ondipudur Railway crossing near new line bas been made for Bibar in Coimbatore is closed frequently for tra ins the Seventh Five Year Plan. As ),ou Ire movement. Those who want to go to aware, population-wise Bibar is a bi, State Sulur Airport and those who come from and the Chota Nagpur area is particularly Sulur Airport are to cron tb e railway poverty stricken area but it has Jarae late. Because of frequent closure, they reserves of minerals. Metals 1ike coal" are greatly handicapped. I demand that gold, copper, aluminium, iron etc., are a RaiJway Over.bridge should be construc- available there. In spite of this. no new ted here, In Murichi near Coimbatore railway line has been provided there. I we have industrial estate. The to and come from Ranchi. It was a very bi, dis- fro movement or raw materials and fini .. trict which wa.s later on divided into three shed products is affected because of fre- districts-Ranchi, Lohardaga and Gum'a. quent closure of railway gate berea There is industrial sluggishness and production First of 011 I want to quote the words Joss because of this. I suggest that an of the Late Shri LaJit Babu, the former over.. bridge should be constructed by the Railways Minister, whicb he bad spoken in RaDways. Before I conclude, I demand a public meeting in Samastipur at the end that the former Members of Lok Sabha, of his speech on 2 January, 1975 before R.ajya Sabba, State Legislative Assemb- his death. He had said tbat he was JOin, lies and State Legislative Councils should to provide a railway line in the remote hil1 be given free railway passes from their ardIS of Chota Nagpur. He also promised hometown to the capital city of Delhi. tbat the Rancbi-Lohardaaa metre gaUIC I want to emphasise that these former Hoe and tbe 1 S km stretch of Loharda... representatives of public ~bould be belped Tori liDe Would be converted int(l broad in this way. With these words I conclude gauge Jines. The second announcement be my speecb. made was th~t India's tenth Divisional Headquarter would be in Bihar and the [Englis"] survey tor selection of site has started. He is no more with UI. I would like to kno" MR. CHAIRMAN : Sbri Sahu. I from the bon. Minister tbat if a Minister of Cabinet rank makes an annoUJ)cement find he is not here. Shri Panika. • • J JS Jt Dot your duty to implement that. SaRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Sir After this announcement he died in a bomb what about our side? explosion. Therefore, OD December J MR. CHAIRMAN: I will live an 1981 the tben Railway. Minister shri Kedar Pandey had announced in a Press opportunity later. Tbe discussion is not confereDC~ in Patna tbat in the yet over. In fact I have already called tribal one person from that side. areal of Blbar three new railway Jines te. ~eogbar to Dumka, Rancbi to Hazaribap SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: It is vIa. Kod erma and Rancbi to Lobarda,_ a biller party. wouJd be constructed. He too is DO more with us. But the Government has Dot MR. CHAIRMAN: His name wu paid any attention to the announcement OB), li"eD JUSt now. Hia Dame was· Jlot made by him .. thero. Tho area whieb I repro ,ept ;, lh, 323 P",walt-lslampur a,II, (NtIIlolfaUsatlon) Bill 324 Rsilway Lt. and Supple D. lor G. (Rlwy,) 1985.86

[Sbri Shiv Prasld Sabul Traffic survey bas already been comp. . poorest and unfortunate not only in India, Itted. The enainccrina sur"ey includibg but also in tbe entire worJd from where recess work wiJJ be compJ eted by tbe end every year some two lakb Adivasi migrate of October '8S. We will Circulate the to Punjab, H8ryana and Uttar Pradesb in project report for RC.D. clearance by eDd ieareh of livelibood. They start leaving of October "8S. We will Jet you toow in January and by February end the area about the cos~·~ffecti,enelS of the project is sans about two lakh Adivasis. They by the first week of November,''' leave because there is poverty and UD- [TrtJIIslal;on] employment in this area.' The HOD. Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv O!!ndhi has been The month of November is over and touring the poverty stricken areas in every we are now in the middle of December. State. He is al~o worried as to how their The area bas been surveyed departmentally living standard can be raised. Is there any and I understand that this ~urvey has re- State-whether it is Uttar Pradesb, veared 12 per cent profit. It likely to earn Madhya Pradesh, Punjab., Assam or any profit. the line must be constructed be· other State-from wbere to lakh penons cause the condition of the people there is 1eave every year in search of IIvelibood? very bad. Not only this on July 10, 1980. Ranchi is tbe only district from where tbe more than 30 MPs from Bihar had given a people migrate for this purpose. But the memorandum to the Hon. Prime Minister Government have not paid attention to and the tben Railway Minister, Shri this aspect. Kamlapati Tripathi for con"ersion of I would also like to state that Ranchi. Rancbi-Lohardaga·Tori line into broad Lohardala and Tori line has been surveyed gauge line. The Hon. Prime Minister four times so far. Later on. during Shri herself had announced in 1980, the layinl Kedar Pandey's tenure a susvey was also of Rancbi-Hazaribagh line via Koderma. started. In reply to my Jetter, it has beeo She is no more alive and the two Railways stated tbat these lines arc increasing losses Ministers are aJso not alive. I would like to the tune of 3.4 per cent. I agree that to know from tbe ho"l. Minister to wbat tbey are suffering losses· Even then I wiJl be the fate of those announcements. would r equ est that tbi5 I ine should be I would urge him that keeping in view the constructed, keeping in view the peculiar special circumstances and the poverty condition of the area. Not only two lakh prevailing tb:re, RaDchi-H~zarlb8gb line persons migrate from this area, it is also via Koderma and Ranchi ... Loh ardaga-Tori ironical and strange tbat every year about line should be converte j into b.-oad gaule two hundred to three bundred girls of this line because tbis has rich deposits of area are also sold in the market. There- mioeraJs. The Coal is also available in fore, in view of the unemployment pro- abundance and it has tbe biggest reserve of blem, I once again request that tbia line bauxite in Alia. Cooper is also availabJe should be constructed as a special case. bore; Bamboos are allo available in abundance in the forests. Therefore, a I want to refer here to a 'letter written paper factory can be set up there. I hope by Deputy;Oeneral Operating Superinten- that you will consider my demands sympa. dent (Survey), Bilaapur.· tbeties])y.

SHRI R.AM PYARE P ANIKA (Roberts- IaDj) : Mr. Chairman, Sir. I raise to The leuer says: support the Supplementary Budlet (Rail- ways>. "Sub: Conversion of R.anchi-Lobar- daaa Railway Liae to broad It is true that when the: Jast Rail"ay. gauge, and ita extension to Budaet .ft. presented; all tbe sections of Tori. tile HoUle demanded more fUDda but thl Ref Your letter No. 564 dated MiDistry baa been provided by tbe 12.9~8S PlaDDIol Commission aDd tbe FJD8DCe 3i~ PUlwal. .. lsiampUl'Lig;" AGkAHAYANA 2i, i~07 (S~K.4) (Nationallsalion) Bill 326 Ratlway Lt". and Suppl. D./or G. (Rlw),s) 1985.86

Department only Rs. 43.3 crores which is Chopan, Siollauli and Katni. This will quite inadequate. Therefore, my first reduce the distance on the one hand and oD demand is that when the next Budgei is the other band. Adivasi. and labourers will presented this Ministry, keeping in view be benefited. Tbe preSsure oftraiDs on Ana- tbe feelings and aspirations of the Houle, habad will also be reduced with this step. should be provided with much more funds. The Adiva~js who travel from Chopan to Along"jth it, I also want to say tbat in Katni wi)) also be benefited and bothera- spite of 1ess furids, tbe goodwill that the tion of the people of South India will allO Railways have earned during the last one be removed. TiU DOW the stations bad DO year is commendable. Tb ere bas been all sheds, but DOW they have got sheds and round progress in the Rail wa-ys. Be it man tlains can be provided a 'halt there. punctuality, safety ar efficiency, the Rail- So, arrangements should be made to run ways have improved even with financial more trains there in order to provide constraints. For this, first of all I want to transport facilities to people. The passen- congratulate the hon. Minister, the Traos- ger train running between Al1ahabad and port Ministry and Railway Board and hope Chunar sbould be exteDded to Varanasi that in futul e more improvements will be via Junatbpur and Vyas Nagar. The efT ected. Aft er all, it creat es an infras- people of these places experience groat tructure on which depends the economy of difficulty in going to and coming from the country. Unless the Railways function Varanasi. This train will provide them efficiently tbe economy of the country great facility. This train was-in operation cannot function well. tiJl the time the Minister of Railways hailed from this area or Panditji was tho Not taking more time and keeping in Minister of Railways or Minister of Rail- view the limited resources available, I ways hailed from Bihar. But later on it would now s pelk. about providing train was cancelled. It was cancelled on the se-rvices and facilities to the people of my plea that tbis route was not feasible. It area. Just now one of the hone Members bas caused great inconvenience to the spoke about Chota Nagpur. Kalka, Hatia people. I demand that this train should train which connects Chota Nagpur is not be extended upto Varanasi. a daily train. It ruos 5 bays a week. I request that it should run daily. Number Similarly, th e Chopan Express train of seatl sbould be increased for those may also be extcDded upto- Shakti Nagar stations from where more passeD,ers board and Siogarauli. It is said that traios are tbe trains. For example, Renukot is an running punctually. 1 would Jike to point industrial area and it is np-cessary tbat out that Gomoh Express is there to provi- reservation q_uota for tbat station is increa· de connection to Cbopan Express. Jlut sed every year. It is an industrial area. Gomoh Express loaves before tbe Cbopan Tberefore, ACC coaches and first classes Expr eSS arrives. It is due· to tbe fact tbat coaches should be added to that train. the train is detained for a consideration Tata.Amritsar Express should be extended tim e at Cbopan. So instead of detaining to Howrah so that it is connecttd with it at Chopan it should be a1!owed to reach Calcutta. its destination direct in order to provide a great facility to passengers. I also want to state that Mirzapur is a historic city aDd is a place of .rate Sir, the train running between Chopan religious importance. Tbe cily has a holy and Mirzapur should be run from Renu- tempI e of 'Mother Vindvasini and thou- koot to Mirzapur. Similarly, the train saDd! of devotees alight and board the betweeD Gadhwa and Chuar should be tr~iDs there. Tbe:e"ore. every train should extended to Varanasi. These traiDs wiJl ha ve a stoPP3le of 2 m iDut CI. Similarly. provide great facilities to tbe local i. Cbunar also all the trains should stop people. for 2 minu.es. There is no traiD to connect tb is ar ea wi th BJm bay. Mabaaapt i tra iD I would uto to make ODe more sub- which lta~ts froal Varanasi via Allababad mission. Raiiways are required to bo ._ould ~e e~t'Dd'ecl to 80mb., vi. Cbunar. mocltl'Diled to 'SOlDO oxtcnt. Ei~btcell tbQ~" 3~7 Putwah.lsiam,u, tIght DECBM_1. 12, 198~ (Natiollalisatio,,) jJiil 328 Railway Line alld Supple D. lor G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[&,11,,,] IShri Rampyare Panika] &aDd metres of railway track is worn out. I SHRI R.P. DAS (Krishnagar): At the demand that you shoul d prov id e funds for outset, Sir, I would Jike to congratulate its renewal. This cau&Cs late running of the young Minister for bringing in the Bill trains and inconvenience to passengers. for nationalisation of F utwah.Islam pur This House' is aware and people of this Light Railway Line. I support this Bill. country should also know that trains be· I also support the SupplementarY Demands come late due to worn out railways track. for Grants. You should pay more attention towards renewal of railway track. It is very The Minister has asked for Rs. 433 important. crores to make the supplementary expendi. ture in the current year. Out of Rs. 433 You have stated that there has been crores, he bas asked for Rs. 100 crores for Improvement in the matter of reservation for construction of railway lioes abd Rs. 60 Scheduled Cestes and Scheduled Tribes in crores (or electrification. Here I want to the Railways. I admit that in certain make two points. One is about some categories their quota bas been filled. but railway project~ whi ch have aheady been still there ar e many catagories in which submitted by the West Bengal Government, their Quota bas not been filled. You and the second is about some problems should fill th,is quota also. So far as the relating to wagon industry in West question of promotion is concerned, the Bengal. rules relating to promotion of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribe employees Coming to the first point, I would like should be strictlY followed in order to to mention that the West Bengal Govern- remove resentment among them. ment has already SUbmitted nine projects for approval of the Ministry_ Out of The members of the fami) i es of ex· these nine projects only four have been railways employees are not getting approved by the- Central Government.. 'railway jobs at present. The dependents And on 'some of them work has already of loyal workers should be ,provided em- been started. These projects are circular ployment in order to satisfy them. railway~ construction of a double Jine bet. ween Dum Dum and Bangaon, construct- There was a proposal to set up a divi· ion of a broabgauge line from MaIda Hilly· sion in Chopan. For this purpose infras- West Dinajpur through Balurghat and tructure was also created in Chopari and construction of Hawrab Amta Champadan- A.D.R.M. office bas already been set up ga Dunkuni Sheakhala broadgauge lino. tbere: but the Division has not been set up Out of these four, only two have been put loon. It will belp the Railway Adminis- to work. The Circular Railway is under tration to function· in a better way. construction and doubling of Dum Dum Baogaon line has not yet been completed. Railway cat eriDB service has improved. The other two have not been taken up' for But, there is still need to be strict with work. I request the Minister to complete private contractors. The quality and all the works have already been approv~d quantity of the meals served by then} are by his Minister.' Out of another five only still of lower standard. It needs to be one bas been implemented that is, a new improved. train between Calcutta and Purulia. Ano- ther four remain to be implemented. They The ticketless travel has not been are: construction of a railway line from cheeked to the desired extent. For this Budge Budge to Namkbana, construction purpose you should be strict witb the . of a ra ilway link line from Raniganj to ticket checkers to minimise t icketless Bankura via'Mejia, construction of a new travel. Similar is the situation in respect, 'broad·cum·metre-gaule line eonnectiDI of reservatioD of seats. One cannot get New Jalpaiauri with Siliguri In. via Ranga. reservation without, payiol extra money. pani to avoid traffic cODgestion and Tum- ''You shoul4 examine this aspect also. -' ,uk Disha JI~c. I think, the bon., MiDister 329 Putwah·jslampur Light AORAHAVANA 2i, i90' (~AKA) (Natlonallsation) Mil ~36 Railway Line and Suppi. D. for G. (Rlw),s) 1985·86 may have known that the Tumluk Digba I would like to make a few more sugg- railway line was taken up by the tben estions. One is regarding 1he ext ension Railway Minister, Mr. Ghani Khan Chau- of railway Hne from Tarakeswar to Aram- dhary and the Chlef Minister was ask ed to bagh and Bishnupur on the Eastern Rail. start the work of acquiring land. The way which was also promised by the then State Government has acquired some land RaHwa~ Minister. So, this scheme has to also. But lately it was known that the be implemented keeping in view the pro- Plaoning Commission bas not approved mise made hy the Minister concerned, and Tumluk Digha railway line. I request him I again suggest tbat this scheme should be to look into tbe problem of this area in taken up as quickly as possibJe. depth and J!ive approval to this line. Th e Calcutta Circular Railway bas Another suggestion is regarding the been approved by the Railway Ministr) R anaghat·Ged e ]jne. This Jine was taken aud some work bas already been done in up most probably in the Second Plan for pha~es. Now, 8 kms' of line has yet to be ell ctrification. The pJatform are raised taken up for construction. Of this 7.5 kms and the iron pillars on both sides of this of line between Princepghat and Majher· t en kilometres Hne are also erected. But hat should be taken up immediately so in spite of that, this scheme was abandon- tbat it can connect Majherhat railway sta- ed, and the money allotted for this scheme tion itself. Another 3 kms of line between might have been shifted to some other TaJtala and Dum Dum was to be taken ~cheme at that time. Therefore, if the up for work. But there was some probl. Government DOW takes up this Ranaghat- em of rehabilitation o(some people who Gede electrification schem e, it would not were a 1ready settied on the path of the need much funds to complete the entire railway line. portion which is not more than ten kilo- They have to be rehabilita ted somewh. metres Or fomefbing like that. Therefore, ere or other. But I would suggest that I wour d suggest that this scheme should be this Ministry may sit with the State Gove- taken up and this should be done within a rnment and (orne to a settlement so that short time. this three kilometres portion between Tala and Dum Dum may be constructed and the I would a1so Jike to highlight the cons- entire circular railway may come into t ruction of a ra ilway projec t in Tripura. force. It is not like the Delhi circular The first phase of this project is between railway. One phase of this circular rail- Churaibari to Dharmanagar. This 12.kiJo. way has alread) been put into operation metre section is . a narrow gauge running between Tala and Princess Ghat, and It section. The Government has taken up has been very popular in that area. I the work on tbe second phase between would like to Quote one figure bere. In Dharmanagar and Kumarghat which is November 1984, the number of passengers about 40 kilometr es. This phase is now using this section was 1,62,441 and in under construction. But now the third January 1985, the number went up to pbase of the project betwe en Kumargbat 2,44,585 which testifies the popularity of to Agartala. which is about 1 SO kilomett es, the service. But only two tr~ins are runn- hac; to be taken up as quickly as possible ing in this ~ection and these trains are because if this portion is completed within consisting only of ten coaches. Therefore, a reasonable time, then tbe essential com- these trains are always over-crowded be- modities and oth er things can be easily cause the people are very much eager to brought to Agaratala, the capital of the travel by this cireular railway. This rail.. State. Therefore, I suggest that the work way also touches the Bara Bazar anc Dal. on this Portion should be taken up as housie Square. So, I would request the quickly as possible. ' Railway Ministry that the coostIuction of I wiJJ now come to the problems faced tbe remaining portion of the circular rail· by the \\apon industry of West Bengal. way should be taken up immedlately and The wagon industry is a very imponant should be compl eted as qu ikIy as possi. industry of West Bengal. I t had about 16 ble. units in the State but now those 16 unit. 331 Putwah.lsiampur Light DECEMBER 12, 1985 (Nationalisatioll) Biil 332 Railway Line and Suppl. D. for G. (R Iwys) 198,.86 tShri R. P. Dass] There are two important railway lines from Kota area: one is for Delhi and are depleted to ten units and out of these Bombay and the other is from Kola to ten units also, Government have taken Guna, Bina and Bhopal. We bdve been over six units These included the erst- pointing out for long tbat passenger traffic while giant engineering companies, namely, for Delhi and Bombay bas considerably Braithwaite, Burn, Jessoph and Indian Sta- increased but only tbe number of fast ndard Wagon, etc. trains has been increased, which do not This time the Ministry placed order for c~rry the load of intermediary stations due only five thousand wagons. But Jater on to which the ordinary passengels have to th is was increased to 12,000 wagons. But face great difficulties. We have been de- the utilisation capacity of tbis unit is for manding for tbe past many years that a 30,(00 wagons per annum. • In early Six- new railway Jin e should be laid between ties, the off-take was 25,000 wagons on an Kota and Delhi. In this connection many average. But now it has come down to- recomnlendations have also been received S ,000 which is 15 per c ~nt of tb e total from there and after conducting inquiry utilisation c<.Ipacity. I request tbe Minister tbe RaHway authorities have found our to place orders for at least 20,000 four- demand as genuine- But as I have stated wheeler wagons per annum to this unit so in the beginn ing, this demand of ours is that this unit may be saved from prolon- not being met due to a number of shortages. ged sick ness. With these words I con- I again request th at efforts may be made clude. to meet our demand. Sir, until our dem- and is olet, througb you I wou1 d like to Translation] r make a submission to the hone Minister. SHRI JUJHAR SINGH (Jbalawar): At present tickets are not issued for fast Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have been v.riting to trains like Frontier Mail, etc. from Kota the hon. Minister of Railways for long to Delhi and Bombay for intermedi~I y sta· that the Ra ilway facilIties in our area ar e tions where these tra ins stop. We agree not very satisfactory and the number of that no tickets be issued from the stations existing trains needs to be increased- Every at which these trains stop but tickets can time the reply of the hon. Minister is that be issued to get down at tho~e station~ at there is shortage of locomotives, coaches . least. If it is done, passengers will get and terminal facilities and t here is lack of certain more faci lities. It js an administr- other facilities. Sir, in this very backgro- .ative matter. I, ~berefore, request that und supplementary demands for grants instruction s be given to issue tickets from worth Rs. 433 crores hdve been presented Delhi or Bombay to detrain at the interme- in the House. I feel that keepjng in view diary statIons OD this secti~n where fast all these sbortages these demands for grants trains stop. You will not have to incur are quite insufficient. I, therefore, sub- extra expenditure on it, but passengers will mit that adequate funds are required to certainly get some facilities. . be available to the Railways to provide the Similarly, shuttle trains runs from· required facilities. Mathura to Baroda on this Hme but the The Raiiway Department is a very number of coacbes is not adequate. On big departmelat where about 20 lakh emp- the assurance and instructions given by the loyees worY. Since it is a ve-:-y big depart- hOD, Minister additional coaches were ment, it has become a convention in our attached (or some days, but later on their country to present its Budget separately. number was again reduced. Sanctioned I, therefore, once again submit to the coaches i3 8, but sometimes there are 3 Planning Commission and the Finance coaches and somet imes 4 coaches only. Ministry that supplementary demads of Rs. Even otherwise thele is shortage of normal 433 crores are Dot adequate for the Rail· trains for passengers. Shorta,e of coaches ways. More funds are required to be adds to tbe difficulties of people of our made availabI e to it. Now, instead of area, particularly on the Delhi-Bombay atressiDI all these thinls, I would like to main line. I would like to reguest the dra w the attoDtioD of the hOD • .M inis ter -hone Minister to mako arraOlements '0 '~wards my CODstit\leacy .. mc,' this sbortaae• ~33 Putwah.lslampur Light AORAHAYANA 21, 1901 (SAKA) (Natlonallsalion> Bill 334 Railway LIM and Supple D./or G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

. Sir, I would also like to say~sometbing Sir, Sarguja is a backward, predomi- about the Kota·Dina line. I have told that nantly adivasi and remote area. Incident. tbis line has overaged tracks and on a 66 ally, it abounds in natural weaJth and km Jong track it is not possible to main- keeping in view this aspect the Ceo tral tain a speed of more thsn SO kmc; and on Government has made adequpte arrange- a S9 km long t rack it is not possible to ments for its exploitation and has construc- maintain a speed of more than 7S kms per ted a branch line known as Dijli·Visbrampur bour. Sir, this situation is a proof in it.. line hi order to facilitate transport of coa] self that these tracks are overaged and are in Jarge quantity. I would) ike to point required to be replaced i,nmediately. I out that it piayed a vita! role in the econo- have come to know that efforts are being my of the country also. I am also comp. made to improve only 25 km long track elled to point out that large quantity of on this line. Sir, it is not sufficient. 125 co31 and other raw materials are avaiJable kms long track between Kota and Bina is there .and these are transported through defective. It requires to b~ improved. this line, but you have not expanded the More trains are required to be run 00 this railway line oy an inch for the convenience line but we are not getting additional trains of the peopl e. I would, therefore request on this line due to these very constraints. the hone Minister that our District Head- quarter, located at a distance of 25 kms Sir, through you, I would like to requ- only from the railway line, may be linked est the hon. l\11nister to make arrangemen- with a rail line immediately~ ts to provide us facilities on both tbe tr ains as Le are not getting this facil ity. I want 17.00 hrs. the bon. Minister to pay special attention towards it so that people of this area may Mr. Chairman, Sir, you know that all get this facility. Facility of only fast proj ects cannot be tak en up due to finan- train is available at Kota proper but that cial constrain's. If we see the si zc and also is for the affluent class who get their the magnitude of the Railways, we shall seat~ reserved in advance. The ordinary find that this is a unique department. It passengers do 110t have any facility as they requ ires huge fnnds. In the present si tu- have to purchase ticket on the day of their ation, if we ask them to accomplish such a journey. The ordinary passengers are not big task with so small a fund, it would getting any facility of the fast train. s~em imllos~ible. Therefore, I shall request you to arrange double the amonnt in Sir, in the end I would like to request th e Budget for this purpose. the hone Minister that Rajdhani Express may be pr0vided a stoppage at Kota. At pre- You know pretty weB what is the con- sent this train does not stop at Kota. It dition of the railway service in Sarguja ? ~tops at Gangapur which has less impor- In this connection, I want to raise 1 or 2 ~ tance as compared to Kola. I, therefore, demands which can be met with very small request the bon. Minj~ter, through you, funds. There are two passenger trains in that arrangements may be made to provide Sarguja-one is B.B.M. and the other is stoppage of Rajdhani E;(press at Kota. It 407-408. If we attach additional bogies will be of grea convenience to the people in these trains for big cities like Bilaspur. Bhopal, Allahabad and Delhi, it will be there. very beneficial. It will help solve the Sir. with the~e words I conclude and problems of the area to a great ex· tbank you for giving me time to speak. tent. SHRI LAL VIJAY PRATAP SINGH You are well aware that there is a dir- (Sarguja): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I support ect train service between Vishrampur and the demands for grants presented by the Delhi. 1 f in the same way a bogie is att- bon. Minister. Before I say something ached to Ka1in~a Express, it will great1y about these demands for grants, through help in the deveJopment or tbat area. you, I would like to . draw the attentio~ There is a junction n~med Anupur nearby. of the bon. Minister towards roy CODsh- Tbis bas been a very neglected jUnction. There is no arransoment for public address tuenc1· 335 Putwah.lslampur Light DBCBMBBR 12; 1985 (Nationalisatlon) Bill. '336 Railway Line and Supple D. for G. (Rlwys) 198j~86

[Shri Lal Vijay Pratap Singhl Delhi. It has bscome a routine for them system at this junction. I request that to visit Delhi. My demand is that your arrangement for puplic address system proposed scheme regarding construction of should be made there and the reserva tiOD 'Yatri Niwas' under which about 221 per- quota for the pJ.ssengers of brouncb line manent rooms are going to be constructed in respect of all the trains should be allo- should be made a comprehensive scheme. cated. You get this ro~te electrified and arrange to introduce electric trains so that the 17.04 hrs ttrowing pressure on Delhi line could be reduced and the inconvenience beiDg cau- [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the sed to th e passengers removed. In my Chair] view, it would be much better if local trains are introduced a fter getting this So far as the question of Demands for route electrified. By doing so. on the one Supplementary Grants is concerned, these hand load on Delhi wil1 be reduced and on are quite justified demands, whether it is the other hand the railway facilities will the construction of int egral coach factory at Kapurthala, or Import of air conditioned also improve. My request is that you pay special attention to elec~rificatioD, . coaches atongwith technology or'the locomotive factory at Chitranjan or over-bridge on Gwalior-Jhansi Road. I shall request So rar as the question of automatic the Government once again to allocate signals is concerned, I would like to say more funds for the R lilways so that the that proper attention should be given to it, Railway network which (or the present is beca use the chances of accideDts are spread over 60 thousand kilometres is minimised if automatic signal system is extended further in a big way. The Plann- introduced. Special attention needs to be ing Commission and the Ministry of Fina- given to it. You know that the Railways nce should think over this matter in this are functioning very effiCiently and our light and keeping in view its importance. dynamic Railway Minister is a very vigi- the amount allocated may be increased lant leader. But it has another aspect manifold. a!so. A large number of pas3engers travel without ticket and there is almays I aho want that our lines from Vishra- scope for large scale pilferage. Besides, mpur (BHuri) be extended upto Barwadt large number of thefts also take place. You are perhaps aware that survey for The hone Mini'iter should give ad:quate this line was conducted 25 years ago. Al- attention to it also. 1 Suggest that the though so many years have since passed, employees who are found indifferent to no work on this line worth the name has their duties should be awarded exemplary so far been done in spite of the assurances punishment so that it may prove as given by the late Prime Minister, Sbrimati detereDt to others whereas the ones who' Indira Gandhi. I want that the work render useful service in such cases. should on this line should commence at the ear- be given proper incentives. liest .. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was talking With these words, I thank you. about the passenger service. You know that we have only two long distance trains SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN RAM- i.e. Utlcal and Kalinga in our area which JIBHAI MAV ANI (Rajkot): Mr. Deputy are uleful to the local people to a large Speaker, Sir, I am tbankful to you for giving me an opportunity to speak. Rail- extent, but tbere are DO pantry cars in way either of these trains to provide good food services in our country are not satisfactory. It is tbe biggest problem. The to tbe passengers. I request you to provide this facility in the said trains. railways are the main and tbe best mode of transport for the middle class. Altbou- I have another submission to make. gb . the hone M~ni~ter is taking some steps You know, that a large number of people to Improve the Railway services yet the liviDS around Delhi commut e to aDd . from problem is becomios more acute. I would 937 htwah-Isla'!'pur lilA, AGRABA:rANA 21, 1~07 (SAKA) (Na,lonalhation) Bill 338 Railway Lil.e . . and Suppl. D.lor G. (Rlw},s) 1,aS.86

like to draw the attention of the hon. [Translation] Minister to the position of the Railways in Gujerat. The Railway services are SHRJMATI PATEL RAMABEN RAM. somewhat better upto Ahmedabad but it nBHAI MAV ANI : It is publish ed in today"s newspaper that twelve people have is no t so In tbe case of Saurashtra. People ha,ve been agitating over tbis issue for the been ·kilJed. But tbe Railway officials ,last many y.ears but unfortunatelY'Dothinl contend that adequate traffic is not available there. Due to non.. avai]ability of 10DI has been done. Rajkot is the Centre of Sau- ta$htra but not a single Jong route train distance trains, the peopJe are compelled to .oes there. Some days back we also met travel by priva,te buses and cars. It is my 'submission that a long distance train Sbri Bansila] in this connection. The should be introduced there because peoplo General Manager called a meeting when we raised this issue :with him. In that 01 tbat ar.ea are feelioa great incoD- venience. meeting we raised 32 points but he agreed only on two poin.ts. It pains us that even minor probl ems relating to train services Secondly, Saurashtra is beset with tbe are not solved. Why the hon. Minister -is problems of drought, water and power; As a result, the train already running there :Dot taking strict action in this respect? It the problems of the common and tbe will have to be canceJled. It is, therefore, poor man are not solved whom will these necessary to haul the train with a diesel people approacb. A number of accidents engine, otherwise it will have to be eaD- take place between Ahmedabad and Raj- celled. The bogies of the train are very . kot. I can quote from today's newspaper. old and tb e sanitation arrangement is not Many persons are killed daily in railway satisfactory. The condition of tbe trains accidents there. Due to non-availability is deplorable everywhere. They run very of "t rains they ar e compel) ed to travel by late. This situation should be improved. A long distance train should be introduced road transport and then the railway officials say that there is not enough pass en· upto Rajkot, Saurashtra. Also, only one ,11 er traffic. If there is no traffic, how so local train runs between Ahmedabad and many people are killed. On this route Rajkot. Its number should be increased. 'My ar ea Rajkot is ,an industrial about two bundred people have been area. Lakhs of passengers trayel up and down killed'and about llve hundred people have been wounded. You should think over this daily. They experience, great incon- matter. The people are facing great ditF. venience. If one more local train cully there. A long distance train should, in introduced. the Government will also be benefited. We are demanding , 'therefore, be introduced there. introduction of two new trains in the Seventh Five Yeaa Plan. We have made SHR. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: When promIse to the people of Saurashtra ill this did the train accident take place in which respect. If tbis demand is met, it would : ~ve nundred people have been wounded? enhance not only our reputation but th",t . " ., ~ of the Government also. SHRlMATI PATEL R~ABBN RAM- lIBHAI MAVANI : The accidents take With these words I thank you for pl.ce on the road and not in trains. giving me an opportunity to speak.

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SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (MidDa- SHRI MADHA VRAO SCINDIA : This pore) : Mr. Deputy·Speaker, Sir, before I " , ~()me8 under the Minist!')' of Transport. 10 to the Supplementary Budlet, I del to ...... :: ~', ,..... ,. ~:. submit two thinlS. After tbis Futwah-

;.::~' , SHlU NARAYAN I CHOUBEY : You Islampur Light Railways Line (Nationalisa. ,.;. :..are a; MiDister, iu tbe- Ministry, of Trans- don) Bill baa been placed before Parlia- port. ment1 tbefts aro latin, place III 'bo eatir, 3S 9 Putwah.lsla"."u, LI,h, DBCBMBllt t2~ 19'5 (NtJIi.",.UStl,fM)' Sill !.t() Railway Litle alld Supp'. D. fr: G. (Rlwys) 198'.16

[Shri Narayan Choubey] lOod Sir. So, we are brothers, you caD joiD me. region and matetials worth laths of rupees are being stolen and sbifted. Since we SHR.I AJAY MUSHRAN : You Join nationalising tbis line, tbe are I request us; bon; Minister to see tbat at least some railway property there is left in tact, tbat SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: I;~cao everything is not stolen away. join you if "ou caD digest me. TII8 real thina i. that tbere are constraints This is my first submission. The second iD.·." R.ailways toda,. We an make 1__ , lubmission is that Futwab.lslampur lilbt demands; but t hey have no fUDeIL OiJIy railways line has got already enougb funds Rs. 433 Clores bave come. It is becauIe from tbe Government to fun the show. So, the entire House Combined and dIJaIID. the 19 lakhs of rupees should not be given ded more funds for tbe Railw81I. 10. the to it. Enough has already been given to entire House should again combiDe' 8Ild it. This railway should also be turned demand for more fund for the Pive Y_r into a broad gauge and it should be Plan. Altboqb tbe five Year Plant bal brought upto the Budh Gaya. This is my increased some more allocation to' tbe submission on this Bill. Railways, I don"t find that it is eaoulb. The Railways sbould have more fundI if' it Regarding the main thing, i.e., tbe Supplementary Grants, I like the )'oung is to be sa ved. Minister, he is very active. Whoever The conditions of tbe boSi eS ev.. - in becomes a Minister, becomes active too. the I Class is very serious. Lavatories He is more acHve than tbe old man, are not workins, tbere Is DO Ii.bt and DO fan. About the condition of the ordinar, MR. DEPUTY SPEAK.ER: You want bogies, second class bOlies of tbe puleD- a Dew line? ger trains, really the less said, the better. I would request tbe RailWl), Ofticera, SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: No·Sir, Members of the Board and the MiDilter I don't want a new line. What 1 beg to sometimes to travel by these trains.. They submit througb you is that whenever a king never travel these trains, have: lot c;banges. the capital's glamour starts chan- by tber the special coaches and Ministers trave ging. New king comes, new capital Is by air only. Thoy don't travel by tralDS. 1 built and tbat capital gets glamorous situation. SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond When Shri A.B.A. Ghani Khan Chou- Harbour) : Sbri Ghani Khan Choudhury dhury was the Minister, MaIda was full of used to travel by goods train. glamour. Even a division was made tbere. I am fioding in Page No. 23. if Dot every- SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Bvon thing, many thinlS for GwaUar. Even the in trains like Bombay Bxpress, Base Coast Gwalior extension is getting a face lift. B~press tbe I Class bOlies are ill very bad Sir, we don't get water on tbe platform. conditions. Please see tbat they are pro- 1 am very glad tba t Gwalior is lolng to perly looked after. bave a face lift. I thank him for this Anyway, tbis i. a very small thing. For tbat reason you must have infra.· tructure for mat iog repairs in tJaa work· Since, I belong to a railway man's sbopl. You bave- lot no sufficient infras- family and I com e from a railway colony, tructure for repairing aU these tbiD.'. I know the constraints of the RaHways. Kindly see to it. There are constraints. SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: J also come I ~ very Ilad that traek NDeWaI is 011 ill -a- larn lcal0. speed from the railway colony. 10m, Alttiouab lias be. restricted~ eteD tbear traci' rODC- saRI "NARAYAN CHOU.BY : VOI1 wa 1 is aoi0s"oQ. It is a 1004 thi'Df. Bot 34. F.utwllh.lslamPllr Light AGRAHAYANA ii, 1,0; (SAU> (NllIionlislllion) tJi/i 342 iltJl/way Lllte and Supple D./or G. (Rlwys) 198$.86

what I beg to submit to the Minister here transfer of technology. I See this on page is that ·it is not be iog done. departmentally. 22. You require this (or designs in tJae It is beiaa done by contractorS. CcJDtrac- KapurthaJa factory. You want to design tOIl are .reaping harvests. There are maD), new coaches. I have DO hesitation, if you honest oIicers in the Indian Railways but can produce cheaper coaches. But then tbere are some dishonest officers and con- we have got our RDSO at Lacknow. Why tractors also. Tbey are eating into tbe cannot that be done by the RDSO? What vitals railway resOurces. I tbink. tbis or for are they? If we have to bring even thing should be done departmentalJy, so coaches at the fag end of the 20th century, tbat you can Ie eep proper supervi&ion. when are we going to enter the 211t century? I do not think it is correct. ·Shortage of wa80ns is an old thing in Kindly &ee that it is stopped if we can the Indian R.ailways. I am glad that in make designs in our RDSO ••. this SU1JPlemeotary Budkt some fund bas 'been allocated for preparing more walons SHRr AMAL DATT A : But for tbat. ·than·cornpar--ed to tbe budget when we met one coach should be enough. in the month 0 f March. SHRI NARA YAN CHOUBBY : One Still we have shortage of WagODS. Here coach or two coaches should be sufficient. 'I bel to submit to our Minister. Please 'Iook into it. There is one Wagon India One good thing you have done-the Ltd. It is a Government concern. But provision of automatic signalling in the It is an association of 9 companies S Howrah.Khara,pur section. It is on page public sector compnnies and 4 private sec. 10. But J am told by the Rail way autho- tor companies. But here the Texmaco of rities of the South Eastern Rai1way that ~ Birlas which has a capacIty to produce cables are not avaiJable to them. They 3000 odd wagons, they take the largest are failing to do justice for this and due to share and they sometimes produce 5000 or that they are not able to run trains bet- even 6000 wagons. Another old company, ween Kharagpur and Panskura. Please the Raymond Engineering Company of lee that tbe} get proper cables. Santr"'lachi. West Bengal-now it is Gerald Ensin eering Company-are not being allowed to become a member of the I beg to submit another thing. The aSsooiataon due to pressure from Mabeahwa- Metro Rail way in Calcutta-it should be Ii of Birlas. The foctory is ready and they completed as early as possible. Otherwise, can supply wagons, but they are not allo- tbe entire Calcutta is congested and as you wed to enter into this company. Kindly know 23.6 % of the entire Delhi area is aee to it ••• for roads whereas in Calcutta it is only 6 3 %. If you have seen Calcutta, you wiJl realise it. Please see that the Metro SHU MADHA VRAO SCINDIA : What is completed as early as possible. Of is the name of tbe comp"DY? course; there must be some time-bound pro~amme. It is causing hindrance to the saltI NARAYAN CHOUBBY : The Calcuttans in a large way. So this should ·,ftew name is Gerald EDliDecriDI Co. of be done. ·Ban'maechi, Howrab and tbe old name was Raymond Bngineering Company. I have referred a number of times re. lardin, halting of the Gitanjali Express at Now I do not want to take much of KharalPur. Sometimes you say that it is 'your time. 'I would like to 1'equest you to ,a super-fast express and it cannot stop. It ;tiDUly sec 'that ··something·is done. will belp 3 crores of people. The entire -coastal districts of Orrissa-Balasore, done , ·'·fail,to undel1tand why you,have Cuttack, Puri and Borhampore and tbe rttiis. '"Now:'p8IC ,22~,o,u want to ·import MidDapore Distrie(, Bankura and PoruIia .~ • ~~ ,lid ~~ Z ~~n .. AC .coaobu laoludiDl IaaviDi a populatioa of over 3 crore, Of 343 ftutwDh-lsiampur tl,h; (Nationalisation) Bil; 344 Railway Lfne and Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Shri Narayan Choubey] Even the ,angmen are being removed by people will get benefited from this. I will applying this rule. I request you to order again request you to tbink over it. the railways to be very cautious in making use of this rul-: and those who .have been Then; many trains which were running removed should be taken back by tbe earlier with 11 or 9 bogies are now being railways. run with only S bogies or 6 bogies. Such is the shortage of bogie~. I am here r e- [ Translation] rerring to A~ansol·Puri Passenger and the Puri Passenger and other such passenger SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Atmora): trains. You know the common people of Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support the Orissa travel by these trains-if not the Supplementary Damands. There has been people of Bengal. They suffer a lot and improvement in the functioning of the you are ruoning them with an engine RaiJways. I congratulate the bon. Rail· which can carry 11 to 12 bogies but only way Minister and bh colleagues for main. 5 bogies are being hauled. It is more taining the tempo of improvement in the coal-consuming and it is giving trouble to Railways started by Shri Ghani Kban the common passengers. They are common Choudhury. . passengers. Kindly see to it. sbd Madhavrao is like my elder bro· Lastly, I wa"t to say a word about ther and I would not like to say anything railway schoo! s. Today we had a debate against him. But I would submit that he on education. in the railway settlements failed to project tbe case of the Railways like Kltlragpur, Chakradarpur and Adra effectively for more out'lay during the we have got railway schools. The railway Seventh Five Year Plan. An outlay of schools follow provincial syllabus and you Rs. 12334 crores has been earmaked in are not abiding by these standards in West the Seventh Five Year Plan for the Rai1·; Bengal.' Then, in every school of West ways. In [be Sixth Five Year Plan a sum Bengal controlled by the railway you have of Rs. 6563 crores was spent. I was put a ban on recruitment of teachers. At hoping that in the Seventh Plan tbe outlay least for the future of railwaymen do not sould at least be double of the earlier put a ban on the recruitment of teachers. outlay. If it was not possible then at Tnis ban should be lifted and sufficient least the Planning Commission should have number of teachers taken in the railway allocated fund as per the conservative schools. estimate. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir we want your help in this respect. It is tbe My good friend, the ex·Minister of State desire of all the sections of tbe House tbat for railways spoke about railway colonies. the Railways should get maximum fuo·ds. The railway colonies are really in sham- Gradually, the Railways are 'becoming a .. bles. Tbere js serious water scarcity even maintenance department. We wjll have to in winter months at Kharagpur and Adra. convert it into a department for develop- See that they are looked after. ment. If the aspirations and- the senti· ments of the peopJ e and the Members of There is shortage of staff on account the Parliament are to be respected, tho of which you cannot work properly, In Planniog Commission should earmark morc Kharagpur there is shortage of staff. There funds for the Railways in tbe Sevonth Five is inadequate number of safaiwallahs with Year Plan. the result tbe entire town is full of dirt. See tbat these safaiwallahs are recruited. This year the Railways have been allo- Sir, after the railways have won the cated a sum of Rs. 2000 clores against tbe case in Supreme Court in which several demand of Ra. 2950 erores. You are hundreds of loco running staff have beon going to spend a large sum out of it oD dismissed the railway administration is such works as, I understand, do Dot rellcct making use of Rule 14 Oi) indiscriminately. tbat you are loiDI to m~t new cballeuges; Tbis rulo sbould be used ver), cautious I),. -How tbe "orks on old bridaOs. OVCf brid· 34S PUfwah-I.'llampur ilght AGiAHAYANA 2t, 1901 (SAKA) (Nationalfsation) Bill 346 Railway Line and Supple D./or G. (RilfJS) 1985.86 ges, underground bridges, new railway tenders only from Ramnagar side. Later lines and conver sion of railway Jines wi]] on that tender was cancelled. It should be completed with this meagre amount. not have been done. There is resentment So many members have expressed their among the people of Ramnagar. I have demands that I pity your Jot and am he~i. been demanding for quite a long time that t3:ting to put new demands. When you it should be extended for another 8 kilo- -have failed to assert in support of your meters upto Gohan. With this a part of right, how 'can we expect anything from Garhwal and Kumayun will a Jso open. you. Injustice has been done to Uttar Rampur-New Haldawani line has been Pradesh in the matter of laying new rail- given a very low priority. It should be given way lines. Not even four per cent of the a higher priority. Bhojipura-Kathgodam line outlay on new railway lines is earmarked is the mo~t important line. It could have for U.P. You can see the percentage. served the purpose of connecting all tb e 12 Never more than four per cent has been districts witb the Capital. It has been spent on Uttar Pradesh. This percentage placed so low in priority that I do not was spent there when, . fortunately, tbink it can be constructed iu the Seventb the - Railway Minister was from Five Year Plan. 1 would Ii ke to submit Uttar Pradesh. More than thre e per cent that the prioritY of a line, which was inau- was never spent there. Uttar Pradesh is gurat ed by Shrimati Indira Gandhi, should a big State. Taking into considerairon the be cbanged and it should be brought higher passengers traffic as well as the goods in priority. traffic in that state, the required work has not been carried out there. Injustic shou!d I would also like to request that tbe not be meted out to that state. You people of Garhwal have been demanding for yourself belong to a backward aT ea. That quite a long time that a train shou)d be is why you understand the sentiments of started between Delhi and Kotdwar. Tha.t the people of the backward areas. Those train would prove to be economicalJy areas bave to be put on the path of progr- viable but you are not agreeing to start ess and regional imbalance is to be removed. that train. I have raised this demand in You wiH have to assert for the right of tbe House and have drawn your attention such areas. The work on metre gauge lines, to th~ need to start a train between Delhi new railway 1ines and conversion of rail- and Kotdwar. way lines will have to be taken in hand. Tbere are six hill districts in Uttar Pradesh I hope you will pay attention towards where no rail line exists .•. (Interruptions) this demand. I wisb you were also as fortunate but you bave not been able to share it. I think Supplementary Demand for Grant you will also not demand new rai lway (Railways) is being discussed in the House lines. In 1984, Bageshwar Ghat.. Tanakpur and mention of setting up of a wagon fac- line was surveyed on out-of-turn basis. I tory bas also been made in it. It is a very was pained LO see that you have allocated good step and we welcom..} it. But we Rs. 1000 tOt that. You nave mocked at would submit that you are not laying new us by providing tllis lneagre amount. It is railway \\nef, tbougb the num'ott ot coacnt.CA true that in otner's cases also you have is increasing every year. 1 tbinK there is provided lesser amounts but we have need to effect some parity between the always espoused the cause of the Rail- two. We should see how we can utH ise ways. You should not ha ve shown thIS their capacity to maximum. It should be much mlserilness. This shQuld be incree- taken care of because when the coaches sed to at least Rs. 2 lakhs. Then only we are sent for repair they remain there for wil1 think tbat some justice has been done. quite a lonl time. Moreover, tbeir rotation In U tear Pradesb, In 1975·76 survey was too is not proper Jy done. You should, made for these line3 ••• (Interruplions) Work therefore, see to this aspect also. What is on Moradat>ad·Ram£laaar Jin e bas started. needed ia a pragmatic attitude, whether it We bad requested that work should start relates to coacbes or engines. Today from both tbe aides. But you iavited WbOD &horo is Deed to lay Dew tailwq ~4' Futwah.isiampur Light bSCSMBER t 2, 1985 t Natlonaiisation) Bili ~. Railway Line and Suppl. D.lor G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Shri Harish Rawat] raiJway lin es that come from Mabarasht1'8 Jines in the country, I do not oppose automatically end at the Karnataka border. spending money on such works but there is Pune to BangaJore line is one such cu.- need to adopt a practical approach in tbis mpJe. From Pune to Miraj there is a matter. With these wordS, pleading em- broad-gauge )jne but, strangely. between phatically for allccation of maximum fund~ Miraj and Bangalore the I ine continuos to for tbe Railways, I support the Supplemen- be metre·~auge. Since independence peo- tary Demand for Grant pre~ented by the ple of Karnataka and Maharashtra are hone Minister. demanding the conversion of this lin e. I reguest the Hon. Railway Minister to take ·SHRI S. M. GURADDI (Bijapur): up this conversion work ImmediateJy. . Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in the first instance I wanted to oppose the From Ountakal to Hospet there jl Supplementary Demands for RaUtt'ays fo,. already a broad·gauge line. This broad- 1985.86. Then I tbought of chanting my rauge should be extended upto ShoJJap.ur. mind to support the Demands because of This will help the traders dnd other the young and energetic Minister Shri passengers of both the States of Karnataka Madhav Rao Scindia. I expected much and Maharashtra.. The work on Bombay. from him. But he too has disappointed Guntakal broad-gauge Jine is going on at us. He is also partial to my State Karna- a snail's pace. This work should be ex- pedited, SholJapur has broad-gauae taka. This I reali!.ed H hUe going through the details of the budget. Therefore I can- connections with important places of Mabarashtra. If the broad-gauge from not support his D emands ~ Shollapur is extended upto Bijapur it will As expressed by my learned colleague be a boon to tbe people of Northern Shri Jaffer Sh erief, the present Government Karnataka. In fact tbe distance between bas dropped all the works which were SholJapur and Bijapur is ooly 60 mites. started by the previous Governments. Now Hence, there should not be any difficulty it has taken up new work~. I do not know for the Railway Ministry to convert tbis to what extant the present Government is line into broad-gauge. Bijapur is a hiatori. justified in cbanging its mind in this cal place. Tourists not only (rom different parts of India but a Iso (rom different fashion. countrie!, are visiting Bijapur and its world. Karnataka State is very backward with famous 001 Gumbaz~'. Bien from Bom- regard to Railway facilities. South India bay tb~r.e is no b~oad .. gauge line to Bijapur. bas been neglected by the Railway Minis· In additIon to thiS, there is another impor- try. Among the States of South India, tant reason for providing broad-gauge liDe Kamataka is the most neglected State. t(\ Bijapur. It is a drought prone area. Tamil Nadu has better railway facilities but Rainfall is very low. Every year this dis- this does not mean titat aU the Southern trict is facing the problem of drinkiDl States are bappy about the railwa), facili- water. Since this is a backward area it ties tbey have. I want our Hon. Minister ~ust be deve10ped by providing rBiJway to make a note of this point. Railway hnes. In fact the policy of the Govern- line of Tamil Nadu w ill not extend to ment is to help the backward areas. Kamataka State automatically. In last year's budget sufficient amount Step-motherly attitude is being shown was allott ed for new lines and otber to Karnataka in one way or the other. works. But for cODYersion there is DO From Madras city tbere are several broad- money. Mysore-Bangalore line is a very lauge and metre·saugc lines. But straolely popular and higb densit) route. But the aU these lines will end when they reach conversion of this hne is still pendiol. The Karnataka State border. Similarly the Hon. Minister sbould tell us when this conversion work would be completed. *The speech was orilinally delh'erd in "aooada. 1m; lalfer Sboricf waf bcsitatirJ.I to , •• 'utwah.l,ltJmpur LI,ht AGRAHAYANA 21. 1907 (SAKA) (Natio1llllIsatlon) Bill 3SG Railway LIM and Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwys) 1985.86 tate up railways development works in of pilgrims go to Tirupati daily from ICarnataka. Perhaps he might have thou- Karnataka State. If broad gauge is provi .. alit that be would get a bad name if he had ded to T irupati the dream of Jakhs of de. takeD railway development works in his votees of' Tirupati-Timmappa in Kqma- home State of Karnataka. He might have taka wou ld become a reality. been afraid of his po~jtion also. Some- bow DO concrete improvement was made Sir, I thank yOU for giving Ine this in Karnataka. But now a new and enthu- opportonity and with these words I conclu- siastic Minister is Incharge of Railways. de my speech.

I invite him to visit my State. Let [Eng1i~h] him get the fint hand e~perj ence of how ICarnataka is backward in the matter of SHRI VAKKOM PtlRUSHOTHAMAN rail_ays. (Alleppey): Sir, this is the Forth time that I am raising my voice 'lbout the gross neg- pO Kerala even though a very small ) ect shown to my State by the Ministry of State, is m'uch better than .Karnataka ~n Railways. railway lines. In the entIre South IndIa ICarnataka bas been neglected the most. Sir, tbe Budget of 1985·86 has corneas a disappointment to the people of Kera)a HubU-Karwar 1ine is a very old de- and to me personalIy. We feel even on mand of the people of that area. But the techno·economic consid erations; adequate demand is fallinJ! on deaf ears. Karwar provisions were not made in our case. As is a key centr e and an important port. It against a provision of Rs. 9.20 crores last is also a famous tourist centre. So Cent- year, the total prOvision for tbe entire ral Government has to link Karwar and Railway schemes for Kerala during tb is HubU as early as po,sible. Let Karnata~a year is only Rs. 6.20 crores. The cons- also appear in the Railway map of I?dla. truction of the broad-gauge line-Brnaku- Ia the la~t budget, major chunk of railway Jam·A]] eppey-was inaugurated in 1979. budget went to north India. Southe.rn It is only about 57 kms. But even during 5tates especially Karnataka bad been Ig .. the last six or seven years, it could not be . red The p !ople of our State ask us DO • . P I" completed. whether we rai<;e these matters In ar la- ment or not. PROF. N.G. RANOA (Guotur) : Imme- diately take up this. The Karnataka Express which runs between Delhi and Bengalore is a biweekly train. I have demanded several times to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Prof. make this a daily train. Waiting list goes Ranga is recommending immediately take to 1SO and the Ministry says that there up this. up .1 . are no passengers to make it a dale Y t1a~n.l Only when Govt. makes it a dal.1y t~8In, SHRI V AKKOM PURUSHOTHA. passengers will come. ~fore makIng It a MAN: Subsequently in April, 1982, tbe daily train the Hon. MinIster cannot e"(- Ra i1way Ministry has sanctioned an exten- pect tho passenaars to wait on the plat- sion of Brnakulam-Alleppey from Alleppey forms. to Kayamkulam which is only 43 lems. The total sanctioned cost for the EmakuJam. There is a train which runs from Alleppey railway line was only Rs. IS Sbollapur to Hubli and takes more than crores. But the latest assessment due to 1'2 hours to cover this dista_nce ~f only escalation, the cost comes to Rs. 30 crores. 209 miles. The spe ed of th IS train must The Department has so far spent Rs. 14 be- iacreased forthwith. crores. La st year, the Budlct prov.sion for Ernakulam-AlJeppey railway liDe was Broad pUle linel &hould be provided Rs. 3 crores. But tbi, year, it has been "twooo BaD,arpet .nd Tirupaty. Tbousands reduced to Rs. 2 crores. At tbia rate wilen 3 S 1 Futwah-lslampur Light DECEMBBR. 12, 1985 (Nattonalisatlo1l) Bill lS2 Railway Line and Supple D. for G. (Rlwys) 198'.86

[Sbri Vakkom Purushothaman] [ Translation] can we complete this short railway line which is the longstanding ambition of ·SHRJ R. JEEVARATHINAM (Arale.- the people of Kerala? When the RaH- konam) : Hon. Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir way Budget was out" we, the Members I riSe to make a few sngg :!stions o~ th; of the Parliament from Kerala have given Supplementary Demand~ for Grants of tbe representations to the Prime Minister Railways for 1985.86. and the Railway Minister. Even our Chief Minister has written D.O; letters to the The unprecedented cyclone foHowed by Railway Minister about the inadequate pro- heavy rains in the last week of November vision of funds. Apart from this, taking in Tamil Nadu damaged the railway line into consideration the importance of the between Madras and Vil1upuram. No Ernakulam-All eppey.. Kayamkul am railway trains could be run between these two line, our Chief Minisier has personally met towns fo~ a number of days. Tbousands of the Railway Minister and requested for the harass ed pass engers from Madras had to allotment of additional funds during the take to .lorries, buses etc. for reaching current year itself. I was also present, Katpadl and from Katpadi also they weat even my friend from Ernakulam Prof. K.V. to Vi1Jupuram by lorries and buses. The Thomas was also present and we were unexpected natural calamity disJocated the happy that tbe Railway Minister has reae.. rail traffic between Madras and Villupuram ted favourably. and t.he Southern Rail ways could Dot c~pe up with tbe rush or traffic by running more But nothing happens. We are extre- trains from Madras to Katpadi. There is mely sorry to note that no provision has electric traction between Madras and Kat- been made in the Supplementary Demands padi. In this very House on tbree or four for tbe construction or completion of this occasions earHer I had demand that electric railway line. We are really sorry. We trains should be run between Madras ~nd are very much disapnointed, and we are Katpadi. This has Dot yet been done with desperate. We feel that the Railway the consequence of unnecessary and avoi .. Ministry has not taken into consideration dable harassment to passengers who ha- the feelings of the people of Kerala. ve1)ed on the top of buses and Jorries. 10 order to face such exigencies, I demand I will not add anything. I request the that eI eetric trains should be run between hone Minister at least hear my last sen- Madras and Katpadi. The hone Minister tence. ~hould direct the Southern Railways to Implement this suggestion forthwith. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCI~DIA : The

hone Member is saying all these things . S.ir, Tirupp~t~j, the most < important with a smiling face. So, I cannot help rehg10us. town vIsIted by laths of pilgrims listening to him. from vanous parts of th e count ry for tbe ~u~pose of ~ving tbe darshan of Balaji, SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA· ~s Just 60 kilometres from Katpadi. There IS from Katpadi to Pakala MAN: Most respectfully, I request the metregauge line ~nd from Pakala to 7irupathi there is 'BG young dynamic Minister Shri Madhavrao hne. Because of this the pilgrims are Scindia to heed our request and act favou- ~rea~IY delayed in their movement to Tiru- rably, and take steps at least now to pro- path1 and back. Particularly thOle who co~e from North .will have to take -a cir- vide for the of sufficient funds completion CUitous route and stmilarl,. tbose who -come tbe Emakulam-AlIeppey.Kayamkulam raH- from South will a Iso have to chanae tmns way line as early a! possible. on a 10?, route. If the MG track bet~cen Katpadl and Pakala is converted into BO With heart-felt pain, I support these *The speech was ori,inaJIy delivered -ill Dcmaads. Tamil. 353 Futwah·lslampll' Light AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA4) (Natloniismion) Bill 3!4 Ratlway'tine and Suppl. D.lor G. (Rlwys) 198'-86 tra ck; tben the passengers from Trivan. made for Tamilnadu portion of Soutllem drum to Delhi and Calcutta will have a Railways. Rs. 50 lakhs for Perambur ditec'( route to Tirupathi, i.e. Trivandrum- Loco WOlks, Rs. 50 lakhs for Avadi Car·~ Katpadi-Tirupathi·Renigunta·Gudur- Delhil Shed, Rs. 100 lakhs for Golden Rock Calcutta. They will save distance of 70, Workshop-these are the provisions in 80 kilometres and also their valuable these Supplementary Demands. Though a thrie. sum of Rs. 8 crores has been allccated for rehabilitation programmes of Southern The Deputy Leader of this House, Railways it is not cl ear what money will Prof. N.G. Ranga has also been repeatedly be spent on rebabililati on workS of Tamil- stre~sing 'the need for converting MG nadu portion of Southern Railways. Even track between Katpadi and Pakala into if you include this Rs. 8 crores, then the BO track. I wish to say that Balaji will total provision for Southern Railway is jult bestow all the benevolence on tbe young Rs. 10 crores out of Rs. 433 crores. Minister of ~tate for Railways if he orders the conversion of MG track of a short dis- I am sorry that no allocation has been tance from Katpadi to Pakala into broad- made for Karur-Dindigul BO kaiJway pro- gauge. The Railways will also earn ject. No other proof is required for tile enormously by opening direct route to negligence of Railway Development in Tirupathi for the pi1grim~ from North and Tamil Nadu. I want that mor e funds South. I reqnest Sbri Scindiaji to look should be provided for Karur-Dindilul into this proposition and do the needful. project and it must be compl eted soon, Then alone the industrial backwardness of The Railway employe~s of Southern Tamil Nadu can be removed. Railway have been affected badly by the cyclone and rains in Tamil Nadu. Their In 1950-51 we had 53596 kilometreli houses have been badly damaged. I of railway track and in 35 years, i.e. in suggest that they should be given grant or 1984·85 the length of railway track bas tlood relief advance so that they can gone to 60,933 kilometres, The averale attend to the repairs of their houses. annual growth of railway track is just 0.41 %. This cannot be refuted by tbe During tbe -British rule, a school was Railway Minister. During this period, the constructed in Arakkonam for the educa- annual average growth of passenger traffic tional needs of the sons/daughters of rail- is of the order of 2,89 % and the annual way employees. Even today the Southern av.!ra~e glowth of goods traffic is 3.12%. Railways is funning this school. The Naturally there are unsolved bottlenecks school building has become dilapidated. in goods traffic and overcrowdiDI in Even the annual repairs are not beina passenger movement. At least in the Vtb attended to. J suggest that adequate pro- Five 'Year Plan, mC're money should be vision must be made for repairing this allocated for raiIwa) development, as rail. school building i~mediately. I also take way development is tbe primary r equ ire- this oppOrtunity to suggest. that the Rail- m ent for thr economic and industrial way Administration should raise this school develorment of tbe c()untry. into a College. There is no college in Arakkonam. The wards of 30,000 Rail- I welcome the increased aHocation 01 way employees are to go eitber 1.0 Madras funds for the rehabilitation and renewal of or VeHore for higher studies. I demand railway trae k in the Seventh Plan. I would tbat tbis school must be raised to a college like to draw the attention or the Railway' for the benefit of tbe cbildren of railway Minister that the Railway Junction and employees. Necessary grants must be Station Buildings built during tbe British given for tbis purpose. regime look like mqnuments of yester- years. Even the annual repair works are Out of tbe lum of Rs. 433 crores being not undertaken. The classic examples of sougbt tbougb these Supplementary De- neglected statfoD buiJdinls are those of mands, only neslilible provision bas hoCD Arakkonam and Katpadi. lamaccfiat, m 355 Futwah·lsla pur Light DBCBMJdIR 12. 1985 (Nationaillotlo,,) Bill 35~ Railway Line and Supple D./or G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Shri R. Jeevarathinam] THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB attention must be paid for renovating the DEPARTMENT OF PARllAMBNRARY "dilapidated station and jnnction buildings. AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): We can extend the sittjng by one hour• . In Arakkooam junction we have the railway overbridge for the movement of MR. DEPUTY·~PEAKER : I hope the pa!lsengers from one platform to the other. hone Members will accept it. Now, Mr. It is located at a height causing great in- R.P. Suman. Please be brief. Wben we convenience to the passengers. This much ext end the tim e. it is he]pfu' to the other beight is required for the purpose of move- hone Members also. ment of electric trains. Even in Delhi the overbridge is high. I suggest that under. rTranslation] grouud path should be constructed for the easy movem en t of passengers from on e SHRI R.P. SUMAN (Akbarpur): Mr. platform to the other. Deputy Speaker, Sir. first of aJJ I congra- fulate Shri Scindia that after be took the Even after 38 years of Independence charge, there ha s been considerable improve- not even 10% of th e railway employees ment in the efficiency and the fl'nctioniDI have got residential accommodation. I of the Railway administration. suggest that in the Seventh Five Year Plan at least 50 % of the Railway employees First, I wou1d like to submit that the must be given government accommodation. provjsion made in the Ra i)way Budget b Adequate money should be provided for this grossly insufficient. A department with purpo,e in the 7th Phin. Before I conclude, I such a high responsibiJity should be provi- would stress t be need for connecting Pondi- ded more money. I dem:lnd emphatically cherry with Bangalore via Villupuram, that the Planning Commhsion and the Tiru'Iannamali, Chengam, Krishnagiri, Ministry should at least p ovide Rs. 400 Kaveripattinam and Osur. This project crores more for the Railways so that this when implemented will open up backward Ministry is able t~ implement the schemes parts of this tract for industrial develop,- properly and provide bendit~ to the people. ment. With these words ! support the I am saying this because it is such a buge Supplementary Demands for Grants and Department that all the States are demand- before I conclude my speech I would ing more and more railway facilities, and request the hon. Minister of State of without morley it is not poc;sible to concede Railways to allocate substantial money for these demands. It is, th~refore, necessary tbe early completion of Karur-Dindigul that mere funds are alJocated' to it. A lot BG project. If this is done, the people of of strictness has been exercised in the Rail- Tamil Nadu, who have reposed their con. way administralion, with the result that it fidence in the leadership of our hon. is improving with great speed and thele has Prime Min ister Shri Rajiv Gandhi, will been considtrable improvement in the PUD- feel that Central Government is reaUy ctuality of the trains. But I would like to committed to translate our Prime Minister's point out that there has bcell no improve- ideals into pnsitiv~ action, as this Karur- ment in the passenger trains and thty are Dindigul BG project will contribute to the still running late. But there has been removal of perennial poverty in these back. much improvement in th e expn:ss trains in ward areas of Tamil Nadu. We wiJ1 also every ,respect. be able to Jeport to our people in Tamil , Nadu that we have got done substantial Shri Harish Rawat was ju~t now sayiDI tbat benefits from the Central Government Uttar Pradesh has been grossly negle cted. during the first year of new Government. It is true. Within the limited losoures' tbe Railway have tri ed to do much, tbough it is , '. [En-glish] true that Uttar Prede~h has remained neglected ear Ii er and now a-lso. 1 am MR. DBPUTY.SPEAKER : It is sia surprised to aee that tbe Railway have Del- O'~lo~~ now. Wllat should w e do~ Je9ted .. cait~ Ji~~ A)'odhya. The peopl~' pf 3,5' Putwah-i.,iampur Light AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907

the entire world rever this city of Lord The toilet facilities are not available, water Rama but it has been neglected and noth. is not a'Vailable. This results in insanitary ing has de en done for it. No facility has conditions. Akbarpur, though a junction, been provided for Ayodhya, Faizabad or has no ~uch facility. The waiting room the Eastern 'lone-whether it relates to too is not in a proper cO:1dition. At least laying of railway tracks, its renewal or any at junction stations this facility should be other faciiity. There has been a long properly available. Near Akb.:rpur is Tanda. standing small demand from Ayodhya. For this place, a 440 megawatt thermal Shri Scindia recent Iy, very kindly gave power project bas been sanctioned. One sanction for starting an express train from of ,its unit is Iik ely to be commission ed in Faizclbad to Allahabad. Peopl e are deman- 1986. One rake of coal is required for it ding that it should start from Ayodbya. It daily. There is no proper sitting place does not- involve any extra expenditure. for the staff working in it. They work in It sh.Juld be c.)nnected from one reI igious tents. Proper arrangements should be place to another religious place. It is an made therefor. Additional tracks should ordinary demand but, unfoltunately, tbe be laid in Akbarpur so as to provide siding Ministry has not acrepted this demand. I facility for wagons. Shunting facility am sorry for it. I want that the train should also be provided there. It is which is running from Faizabld shoJJd run necessary for coal wagons which are re- between Ayodhya and Allahabad. There quired for the thermal power project. is not a single train runni3g directly between Delhi and Calcutta via Barabanki, In Akbarpur there is a very old and Faizabad, Akbarpur, MaJipur and Shah- dilaipidated bridge, which may collapse ganj. Many trains are available via any time. It should be reconstructed. Allahabad and via Gorakhpur but there is There are large number of weavers in no direct train on the Barabanki-Faiza- Akb~rpur, Malipur and Ja Japur. Gandhi bad route. Earlier, there used to be one Ashram is also there, from where cotton train for Banaras and one passenger train artic} es are sent to BangIa Desh via Cal· between Delhi and Buxar but it is now cutta. All these goods Ii e in the open at called B lreJlly.Buxar passenger train. No stations in the absence of any godowns extra eKpenditLlre is involved if the passen- th ere. I would lik e to submi t that som e ger train which earlier rdn between Delhi. arrangements may be made at these small Buxar is restarted for the convenience of stations for the conv eni enc e of tbe passen· the public4 In addition, the Ganga-Yamu- gers. na Express runs 4 days a week via Faiza. bad, Akbarpur, Malipur and Sbahganj and Sir, tbe 1st class compartments of the for the remaining days runs via AUaha- Ganga-Yamuna Express Train are· called bad. It should be converted into daily the worst class compartments by the people train. It shoul d run daily between 0 elhi of this area. Improvement of these com- and Varanasi because many people are partments is also necessary so that the deprived of the facility. good image of the RailwaYs is Dot tarnish- ed In the eyes of public. The works, Th ere are many trains on Allahabad which do not ential much expenditure, route. Tberefore, that train should be run snould be taken up early~ At least toilet 'ia Faizabad, Milipur, Shahganj and facilities and ben.ches for the passengers Akbarpur ~o that lbe pa~sengers of that should be provided at each station. Much area are benefited. . expenditure is not required to be incurred on these works. Indifference should not There is only one platform on small be shown in respect of tbese works. In stations I ike Katehri, Z.lfarganj and Tanda this way the public will have very aood and their level is also very low. The opiQ)on about the Ministry of Raiiways. p..lssengers find it very difficult to board Ute train. Old and women passengers .\ 'Y jth these words I support these sometimes (aU down. It is~ therefore, demands and would like to state that there ....Qtial to raise the JoveJ of tbe platforms. hl8 been mucb improvement after Sdn4ia.. 359 Pulwah.ls1ampur LI,Ia, (Nationalisation) Biil 360 Railway Line and Suppl. D.lo· G. (Rlwys) 1985.86 .

[Sbri R.P. Suman1 ment on a priority basis, but no steps have ji's cJmiog into the \Iinistry of Railwa)s. been taken to inc!ude it in the Seventh I hope that he will bring about more Five Year Plan. For some works already improvement in future also in order to on ground, funds are Dot allotted sufficien- ensure th!lt Railw1Ys are w:thout any short.. tly. For example, on Bibinagar.Nadikudi comings. broad gauge line, only two bits out of four are completed up to Madras. The other With these word~ I thank you and take two bitS stiU remain to be completed.. For my seat. the conversion of Guntur to Macherla metre gauge Jioe into broad gaule, the [Fn,llsh] estinlate is Rs. 30 crores but only Rs. 2.06 crores has been spent. At this rate you SHRI• D.N. REDDY

SHRI D.N. REDDY: This is a very need. Tbis shou1d be immediately atten- important problem. ded to.

SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Aa regards the taking over of Private Members need not worry. They wlll get Railways, I agree that it is a r ;gbt step. I the reply, Sir. request that all the seven privately-owned mini-railways along with Futwah·Islampur SHRI D.N. REDDY: Btlt this is a very Light Rail way Company may be tak en over important problem con 1 ected with the who) e by the Government. With these remarks State. Please leave the hone Minister I support the Supplementary Budget for alone fo~ a few minutes for us. RaiIway~. Thank you.

I want up to-date informat ion about [Trans/ation] how this problem stands now. In addition to th e norm al budget of Rs. 3,982 SHRI RA~1 PUJAN PATEL (Phulpm) : crores, the supplementary budget of Rs. Mr. Deputy Spcak er, Sir, I raise to 432 crorcs is envisaged, anl0ng otber support the Futwah·lslampur Light Rail- things, to purchase A.C. coaches and ordi- \\ay Line (National bat ions) Bill and nary coaches. We have been a~kiDg the suppl ementary demands for grants (Rail- hon. Minister to provide an A C. coach to ways) presented by the Minister of Rail- RayaJaseema Express-you will excuse me ways. I would lik e to give some .suggestions. if I am repea~in~ it agai;t-and reduce its In the field of transport, the Railway hold fanning t fm e so a s to reach Hyderabad a place of pride in the entire country. about an heur earlier than what it is The bon Minister of Railways deserve:; ~ongnltulations th~ reaching now, but there has been no re~ for promptness, hard ponse to these. Since you are ordering for wOlk and farsightedness exhibited by him ITlOre A.C. coaches, at lea3t now I hope tbat in bringing about improvement in the RaiJ- one will be provided for the Rayalac;eema ways. The hone Minister has made ins.. Express. pection visits at certain pJaces which has resulted in gre~t improvemcnt in tbe Rail .. I may be permitted to mention a few ways. I would like to submit that the words about the RaiJwlY Consultative speed of the trains may not be decreased. Committee wh!ch now meets usullly once On the contrary efforts should be made to -in three months. increase the speed of the trains. I would like to say something about he railway gangmen. It has become purely informal without There are mlny gangmeo, who have put in achieving any results what~over. I may fuur to five years" service but their ser- be permitt ed to mention that it is no u~ e vices have not been regularised.· I feel baving Consultative Committ~e Meetings that justice is not being done to them. I once in 3 m')t1ths \Vh .!re none of fhe offi· hope tbat the bon. Minister would pay cials either ~peak or reply to our sugges- attention towards tbis. There is pilferage tion). The hJil. Mmister also keeps silent. of goods in the godowns at railway stations. We ar~ told that replies w111 be sent later The officers or polic~ personnel on duty on-which are inyariably either lack of there shouJd be held responsible for these funds or lack of Jocomotives. thefts and action should be taken against them. BeSides, tbe strength of R·P.F. Secondly, we have been asking for should be augmented. G.R.P. rersonnel Secunderabad~Kurnool·Dhone metre gauge do not b.,bave proPerly with the people and line to be converted into a broad gauge idle away their time.You wHl find that thou- line. It is a long-felt demand of the peo .. sands of police personnel travel by trains pIe of the Reyalaseema regIon. I request without ticket, as a result of which genuine the hone Minister to consider it and take ticket holder passengers do not get seats. necessary steps in this regard. Providing Large tracts of land he unutilised on either railways over-bridges in Sanatnagar and side of the railway line and you arc plan- fatobnapr in Hyderabad is a lona-felt tiDa lapliqs there. I would like to sub- 363 Futwu'h.isJampLt.r tighr DECEl\tB~ft J 2. 1985 (N'ationaJlsar;on) Bin 364 Railway Lint! and Supple D. (or G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Shri Ranlpujari Patel] may suit the people, who wish to attend mit that sapJings of big tre:s should not be the court and return hQme after attending plant e:1 as in th e even t of a storm, the to other jobs ;0 the city. I fee] tbat trees may fall down and railway lines introduction CJf this train and necessary would be bIo.ked, which would hamper the cbanges it) the time table are J1ecessary as movement of Railway traffic. J feel that you it will be in the public interest, otbelwise should consider this matter. Only tho e trees the arrival time the a:xisting train at should be planted which may not cause Allahabad mOlY be changed. any harm to the rail lines, Thousands of acres -of land are lying Vdcant at Subedar- From Pbaphamau In. in Allahabad, ganj wltich is situated adjacent to Allaha- trains 1eave for Banaras, Jaunpur, Faiza- bad. Thr ee-four years ago it was proposed bad, Lucknow and other stations. Peop) e to set up a coach factory there. I do not visit that place thrice in a month to take know about the fafe of that· proposal. I bath in the river Ganges and very big fair would request that a survey of that area (Mda) is also held there. Therefore, may be conducted to :_;ee as to how that expansion of that station is absoluteb land can be utilised, otherwise the eity is n ece,sary. In this connect ion I had expanding and it is possibl e. that local written many letters earlier also. In reply thereto I was told that it had not been people m3Y OCCUPY that land iIJegally. 2 AF and 5 AF Al1ahabld·Faiz"lbJd passen- possible to do so due to paucity of funds. ger trains arc very old traIns. These I requ e"t that keeping in vi ew the in terest 1 tr ains have been made express trdins now. of the pubJic; sp~cia) provision should be made to explod this station and necessary PreviouslY, this train us~d to reach AlJaha- bad, at 9 30. Since it has been made an funds should be mdde available for this purpose. [ express train; employees as well as other persons coming to Allahabad in the morn- Sitnilarly, th ere is a place known as ing are facing grelt difficulties. 1 would Shringlverpur where Lord Rama ~tayed for like to submit that this problems can be sometiine on hiS way to exile and Ramcho- solved if this train is provided stoppage at ura Railway Station is the connect ing rail Vishwanatbganj. Dayalpur and Sewaith head. Now-a-days tbis place has also stations in the absence of which people are been declared as a tourist centre and expedencing great difficulties. As an deveJopment of Shringaverpur is also in alternative measures, a new shuttle trai:1 progress. I want that keeping this thing may be run between AUahabad and Pcatap- in view proper attention should be deve- garh. Sometimes, it so bappnes that loped and arrangements ~houtd be made per"ons try to jl.lmp from the runntng train to provide. stoppage of trains passing ftom and they are killed in accidents. It will that station. be in the best interest of the people jf this train reaches Allahabad at about 5.30 AM. I f\!el that trains playa very significant I would like to req~est in this regard and role in the development of the country. you had given an assurance to me that The Minister of S(a~e for Railw~ys time of introducing tbe new railway time has, therefore) to discharge an table in the month of October. New Time onerous Iesponsibility and I feel be is Table bas also come into force, but due to dis.;harging his J esponsibility intell igently. certain reasons this matter has not been More and more changes will be seen in tbe touched. 1 would request you to pay Railways because of him. StilJ, I would attention towards this m3.tter and timings like to submit to him that he should pay of this trains may be fixed accordingly in . more attention towards safety measures. the new time table as it wiU be more bene.. I would like to give an example to you. I ficial to tbe people of that area. generally tr.l V6: 1 in A.C. sleeper coach of the train running between AJJahabad and In additl:Jn, one more shuttJc train Pryagraj. In my opinion incidents of theft may be introduced between U nchahar and do take place in it twice or thrice a week. Allahabad. The arrival time of this traio It is avery straolo matter as to how theCls It AIHihabad should be so adjusted that it are Q()mmitted. We Ibould kco~'. 365 Futwah.ls1ampur Light AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) (Nationalisation) Bill 366 Railway Li, e and Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwys) 1985-86

strict watch on it. We have not been able the railway }jne to Shimla was laid during to cbrck these jncident~. I do not sav the British regime. After that no railway tbat it bappens due to carelessness of staff line has so far bren laid there. A survey or certain other reasons, but peopl e have was conducted from Jagadhari to PaoDta developed a fee!ing t~at police per'ionnel bu' the wcrk for Jaying the second line have a band in these incidents. J would was not started. like to su,gest tbat instead of G.R.P., R.P,P. should be strengthened because wbene"er Sir, J would like to po int out that any person goes to get a report regisfered, injust ice h3s been done to us. Raja Nala .. his report is not registered. I hope that garh got a railway Hoe constructed in the the hone Minister of State for Railways ther. Nalagarh princ.ely state in 1826 from will work more actively ar d make his offi. Sirhind to Nalagarh but after independence cers and empJo\ees more active. Only the same was dismantled. In this way inj- tben welfare' of people can be ensured and ustice has been done to us. A number of all the schemes can be implemented industri es are being set up tl" ere. successfully. With the~e words I 'sppport tbe supplementary demands for It is a border area adjoining Punjab. grants (Railways) presented in the House Sir, I. therefore, request that a railway line by the hone Minister and hope that 1he may be 1aid on the previous railway track hsues rai.,ed by me looked into. markings~ because in its absence the people of hill area experience great transport diffi .. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (Shimla) : cll~ties. We have to come to Kalka (Haryana) Mr. Depu.y Speaker, Sir, the deman(~s for as the nunlber of trains from Himachal grant in re~pect of Railways are being dis- side is quite inadequate. In this way, the cussed in the Flouse. It aopears from the people of th e hin area have to face great discussion that adequatt! fund~ should be difficullies. Sir, it is, therefore, requested made availab!e to the Railway Department that the old Na Jagarh line should be to function !'moothly. Each Member of relaid. Parliament has plem.ed for laying of railway line in his constituency and gave many Mr. Deputy Speaker, there is a station suggestions/proposals for expansion of rail- Sanwasra on Kalka.. ShimIa Jine. Nothing way facilities. 1 think th It at present only has been done to improve tbe condition demands for grant in respect of Rail way prevailing there. The land is sinking there are under discus~ion before us. These and the railw(tY line is in const3.nt danger. demands have been presented in order to Similarly, on Talwara line also very small meet the additional expendi ture to be amount has been Fpent whereas our jncurred by the Railway Department. Government has spent large Dmount on While supporting these demands for grants, giving compensation for this line. Tne I would like to state that unless adequate Government have spent huge amount on funds are made available by the Planning other items but the Railways have spent Commission to the Railways, it cannot func- very little there. I, therefore, request Shri tion ~moothly. Scindia and Chaudhry Sahib that they should pay some attention to our area I would like to suggest that in case the also and start construction of railway Jines Planning Commission has no Member from there so that the people of hill area also the Railway Department, it should have one get some facilities. Member from the ~ ailways so that more and more funds can be made available to Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Chaudhry the Railwry Department. 3~hib is our neighbour. I want to congratulate him and Shri Scindia for taking Sir, I would like to point out that in prompt action against the encroachment on tire matter of laying of railway 1:nes in the the Railway land. I had also wr itten to country, hill areas are ignored. Whenever them informing about tbe cases of encroa- I raise tbis issue, I am told not to do so as _ chment of Railway J and. I am happy that tb~r~ is QO railwa)' line in my ar~a. Sir, they immediately asked their departfl}enl 3 (; 7 F'utwah.lslampur Light DECBMBER 12, 1985 (Natlonaiisatlon) Bill 368 Railway Line arid Suppl. D. for G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

[Shri K.D. Sultanpuril should be renewed; but tbey have made pro- to take action against the offenderes and vision for renewal of only 3500 Kms. _ encroachment wa~ checked. Sir, you are aware that we come from Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Shri Scindia South. These people call the people from has been electej after defeating a person, South as Mad raCJi, Nizamj and Hyderabadi. who on th e one hand espou,; ed the cause of the Railwavs in the House and on the other The hone Minister is aware of the time hand encouraged encroachment on the taken in traveJJing (rom Delhi to Madras. railway land. You must electrify the track from Delhi Lo Madras. Earlier also, I had' urged you He defeated a leader who used to talk about I was given an assuran~e that more and did nothing. Therefor" Shri Ulis. by the end of the Seventh Five Ye~r Plan Scindia de~erves congratulation and the . this job would be completed. At present people who elected them also deserve it takes only 18 hours from Delhi to congrat u 1a tjon~. Bombay. You are aware of the plight of Mr. Deput~ Speaker, Sir, I support the the rail passengers coming fronl South. 'Point raised h~re that if the Planning The meals Served enroute are also of Commigsion did not provide funds to th e inrerior quality. Railway~~ wherefrom the Railways would imolement the C'chemt's. I, therefore, In ca!e the 'tbalis' are not-availab1e request that the P lanning Commi~sion be the food is served jn cups ••. ( Int~rruPtiO'ls).' a~ked to provide the maximum amount to the Railways ~o that it may be in a position SHRI OIRDHARI LAL VYAS (BhiJ .. to undertake maximum work in this area. wara): With lesser intake of food you If tbe Planning Commissi')n does not pro- will remair. healthy. vide funds. even the on~oing projects will be complete~ with difficulty. \ In such a SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: We are situation the question of starting new pro- concel ned about the young people. They jects does not arise. f'hould remain healthy. Our hon; Minister Shri Scindia is a young man. He must Sir, the points raised by the hon. look into it. [t takes 48 hours to travel l\iember here are all genuine and I support by Trivandrum Express. Therefore, the them but the main Question is of funds. route should be electrified. J, therefore, request the Government to a,k the Plann;ng Commission to provide maxi .. OUf Andhra Pradesh Government and mum funds to the Railways so that they are our friend sent a letter on 2-12-85. He able to undertake development works. If ~ent the letter not only to me but to all the Railways get funds, it will emp' oy more the 42 Members of Parliament. In this he and more people and win lay more railway has expressed disappointment. ]ines. With these words I support the demand presented here and thank you for [English] giving me time to speak. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You need SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam- not read. No, no. Don't read. If you konda) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Ido not want to say anything, YOU can say. But want to say anything more than what the don't read anything. hon. Member from Telugu Desam Party has said about the Railways but this much SHRI C. JANGA REDDY· I am I wpuld definitely say that our young Mini. reading tbe Contents of the letter • of the ster of Railways and an experienced person Government of Andhra Pradesh. like Cha udhry Bansi Lal shollld have taken into account the recommendations of the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: J wfll not Ranovathn Committee to the effect that allow to read letters. What you want to durjf\!l the Seventb Plan, 5000 Km. track say, YOU say. 369 Putwah-lslampu,. Light AGRAHAYANA 21, 1907 (SAKA) (National/silt/on) Bill 310 Railway LI". and Suppl. D. lor G. (Rlwys) 1985.86 SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : I want to one reacbes to destination, the feet are .read out. swollen and one is not able to move after- wards for two days. I had raised the .UR. DEPUTY SPEAKER I would matter in the Consultative Committee not aHow. also. Our hone Minister i~ a young man and the hone Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv PROF. N.G. RANOA: You can ex- Gandhi, is also a yonng man but Shri press ,yo~rself. Dansi La1 is an old man. [ Tl'lInslation] I request you to set this line completed. SRRI C. JANGA REDDY : Shrimati You are not doing anything for lCazipet .. Indira Gandhi had promised to complete Secundera bad-San8tnf-gar ]in e also. Nadikudi·Bibinagar line in 1986. [English] [En,llshl SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD : The "We are In 1985, One year is hone Member has said that the Transport more to complete Nadikudi-Bibi- Min ister, Shri Dansi La) is an old maD. narar line. Line is not complete. He should withdraw that••• Line is not started at1ea~t for goods from Vishnupuram to SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO (ChikbaUa- Miriyalaguda due to non-comple- pur) : Mr. Jan-ga Reddy is an old man. u tion of line • MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Because rTranslation] he is an old man, he has said it.

We were told that Rs. 16 crores would [ Translation] be spent on this project. Now this project is goina to cost Rs. 30 crores. If the cost SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : You are goes on increasing this way, the project is aware that Hyderabad is a bi, centre of Dot going to be completed. It seems that Southern re~ion. The Transport Minister it will go uoto Rs. 40 to Rs. SO crores. of our Rtate has written an 8·page letter to You will have to keep an eye on it. the Minister of Rai1ways in which t e bas expressed his disapPOintment that aD At present we observe that the farmers eJectrical locoshed, which should have been are being 'fleeced and exploited every- set up in Chellapalli, has not been esta. where. The transport authorities say that blisbed there. Secunderabad is very near wagons are not available. During Ma~ch to Chellapalli. Similarly, a coach factory April chillies have to be sent to Bombay. was to be set up in Kazipet in which 10 At that time they ar e told that wagons are thou8sbd people were likely to get employ- Dot available. I feel that the railway ment. In this case also we have met with authorities aDd the traders are band in disappointment. We have not launched glove with eacb other in creating the scar- any agitation keeping in view the intearity . city of wagons. of the country and the Punjab agitation; otherwise, had we wished, we too could Hon. Minister, Sir, if you lay the raH· have closed the gate to South. We did way liae between Nadikudi and Dibingar, not want that the integrity of tbe country the distance between Hyderabad and Gun- should be endaDgered on account of the tur would be reduced by SO kms~ The Punjab tangle. Therefore, we did not railway. 'IiDes which· had been laid in object to tbe coach factory being liven to Telaogana during the N izam regime have Punjab. I, therefore, request that the not been extended even by one km. You Ra. 7 crores electrical locoshed project are aware tbat DO rail traDsport is availa- being set up iD Kazipet, should be CoillP- ble for going to adilabad. Bus takes 14 leted at an early date. The land for the hOQJ'a.to cover tbis distaDce. 8)' tbe tilDe purpose bas been acquired aDd tbe walll 371 PUlWall-!slampur Lit'" DECEM_E. 12, J985 (Nat/OM/halton) Bill 3" RIll/way Line and Supple D./fIr O. CRlWys) 198J.86 [Shri Janga Reddy] C Vfj8l'wada.BalJarshah.Kazipet line at the have already been erected but so far the earliest. line bas not been completed. I request the Ba 11 arshab·lC.azipet I ioe ihould be I also want that the circular train- line doubled. should be completed in Hyderabad. In . langaoD. a railway. over bridge should ~bo As YOU know, rich deposits of coal are be constructed~ For tbis the State Govern- found in Adilabad Karimnagar area. 40 ment is ready to share SO per cent of the to SO per cent of the total coal deposits in expenditure •. In this cODnectioD I h~lYO the country are found in thi, area Itself. written a letter to you but no action has Coal is sent from bere to other parts but been tt'ten on tbat. there is no transport arra~8ement for it. Sometimes clousre of thermal projects is [English] attributed to non-supply of coal. Wben coal authorities are asked about the reag MR. DBPUTY SPEAKER.: You hl"e sons they say that they are not gettin- already told many things about Madras .. wagons. On being asked, the railway So please wind up. authorities reply that there are no wagon takers. What is all this going oD, I fail SHRI C. SANGA REDDY: I .m talk.. to understand. You should bring about ing about Daksbin Bbarat. You kind}, improvement in the prevailing situation allow one minute Sir, Bear with me, Sir. because if the power generation is stopped even for two days, there will be lot of [ Translatioll J difficulty. As you are aware, there is shortage of power in Uttar Pradesh, The SUIIJ estions made in the Consul.a. Madhya Pradesh and Maharasbtra. Our tive Cnmm itt ee should be cons idered and State is ready to supply electricity. Telu,u effort. should be made to jmp1ement them. Desam Government of Andhra Pradesh is Mr. Deputy speaker., Sir, I thank y,ou for ready to supply electricity at concessional living me time to speak. rates because our State is a surplus state in tbe matter of electricity. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN (Rosera): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sit, first or all I would sugsest th1t tbe PJaAQ1na. [English) Commission should accept whatever demands are received from the Ministry of SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Not Railways. It is a maHer of 1 egret that the a singJe power house is closed this year for demands presented by the Ministry of want of coal,Cind our coal supply to power Rail. ways are oot approved. The result is th"t houses bas gone up by 20 per cent in spite the on going or proposed railway dCllelop:. .. of the fact tbat the number of wasons bas gone down. m .:ot .works cOlJ)e to a Jrindins haJ~.

. Sir, The Railways play aa im..,..aaat [Translation] role as a social as welJ as COm-.er.cial _,. vice but the railway officials Ii·ve- over~ saRI C. JANGA REDDY I could riding importrnce to the commercillJ point DOt get wha t you said. of view over the social service poiat· of view. I waot to speat on the miterabl •. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA I conditiOD of the Eastern Rail"ays. It: ia- .... will give the information in my reply. matter of. happm.ess that after j~, dence. the fast, super fas"dcJux.-a'j~. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: As you. Bxpress trains have. been introdlJ~ to know, the power generation in Mabara,sb· u.. the varioUl cities of the count.,... tra, Karnataka. Orissa is less but And bra wJHcJt...... , Pradesh is surplus in it. To utiUse this brouaht tum nearer focach of". power, you ma,. killdl, complete: tbo j13 Futwai,.j,/ampl4r tig., AGRAHAVANA :21, 190' (SAK.IJ) (Nat~onaijsQ'ion) Biil 314 Rai/WIlY Line and Suppl. D. lor G. (RlwYJ) 198j.. 86 hon. Minister, But at tbe sal1e time I a'D correctly that the route is long. They filled with a sense of disappnintment also. are cheating the public by givir,g incorrect You have not connected the villages with information. The Members of Parliament the cities. th e w~y you have connected the frem North Bihar have submitted a memo- c;ties. So far a~ que;;tion of the North randum requesting for restarting the can- Eastern Railways gOES, not to talk of cel1ed trains. J would request you to starlin. new trains., the trains which were start these train" wi tbou1 furt ber delay. It already running there, have been with- has been repJied in Parliament thal the dtawD. At present, the Population of Railways have suffered 10ss of Rs. 22 N'orth Bihar is m Jre than 3 crores. The Jakbs. This is a 2 year old figure. By entire population bas been deprived of the now this loss must have increased to crores rail facnitie~. This b 1S resulted in in- of rupees. In this way the revenue which was creksed bus c;ervices there. Another accruing to the Railways is being pocketed problem is that if a bus takes 3 bours to by the private capitalists. It is all be- reach a place, the train covers that dis- cause of the inefficiency of your officers. tance in 12 hours. On tbe other hand, Therefore, tbe trains which had been can- tbe- officers of the North Eastern Railway' celled should be restored so tbat people get in collusion with big capitalists encouraged relief. the' bus service and got the trains cancelled. Tbe trains already running have been Sir, bow much money has been provi- cancelled. Reservation is not available in ded to North Bihar since the First Five 79 Up and 78 Down trains. Patna is the Year Plan to-date? It has been provided capital of Bihar but that train has also 0.75 per cent of the total allocation. It been cancelJed. When the question is is tbe second largest State of tbe country raised, it is said that because bus service and if the raj) services are not developed available there is no need to run the trains. th{re, it tantamounts to injustice with the 10' -tbis way tbe officials feed wrong infor- peopJe of the area. I myself had submitted mation to the Minister which in turn is a memorandum to the la te Shr i Lalit conveyed to us. The public there is very Narayan Mishra fer Samastipur-Darbhanga disa~ilted. The trains from South and broad ga uge line. West India reach there at 10 o"clock and 8 o"c'ock. The connecting trains should When he went tbere for inaugua tion, be made available within half or one hour a bomb exploded at the site and he died. but for the ~rains which reach at 10 I was also hit by 5 to 7 splint ers. It is a o'clock in the morning, the ~onnecting stretch of 30 kms. only for which the work train is m1de availabJe at 5 o'clock in tbe waS started but later on, was stopped. eveni: g. F0r the entire per iod i.e., 5-6 Shri Kedar Pandey had got the earth 'work hOUrs in between the p.lssengers remain started in 1981 but when the other Minis- stt8bded there. The 14 pair of trains have ter came, this work was stopped. This has been cancelled and with that 3 caused resentment among the people of the eral es people of Bihar have been area and th ey feel that as the Minister deprived of tbe rail fdcHities. The does not belong to their area, they are people have to go by bus under compul- therefore, being discriminated against and sion which is quite in convenient. I, there- injustic is being done to tbem. The work faN, urie you to restore the train§ which on Samastipur-Darbhanga broadgauge line have -been eancelled ard a super fast train which was started, ~nd on whose survey ShOD Id' be started on that route. The lakbs of rupees were spent, shou1d be star- report of your officers that tbe railway ted again urgently. Due to non-construc- route is quite Jo~g is wrong. You can see tion of this line, the Government is paYiDI that from Samastipur, Jayan\i Janata Rs. 50,000 per day on trans-shipment in EltPress r~acbes Pa toa in 3 hours and the form of demurn~ge. Similatly, work, 00 DarbilaDla in 45 minutes. The train takes Sakra, Hasanpur railway line was also star- S hours to covet a distance of 300 kms. to ted and Rs. 10 lakhs have been spent 00 Jay- NI,ar and tbe b-.s' allo take. S hours. that but that work. too was stopped. Earth T~crefore, you bave boq 'iDformc4 ill- work was atarted but that was also s'orped, 375 Putwah-lslalnpur Light :OSCSMBSI 12, 1985 (Nationai;stilion) Bill 316 Railway Lin~ and Supple D.lor G. (Rlwys) 198'.86

[Sbri Ram Bhaga t1 Ram Singh Yadav. Nothing will go on This work should also be started again record. uraent)y. The pt-ople there are very much disappointed, because work on these pro- [Trans/atiQn] jects bas be,en held up. SHitI RAM SJNGH YADAV (A)war): I want to submit one thing more. Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I rise to support There is a road bridge but no railway the Demands for grants presented to the bridge over Ganga. The result is that the House by the hon. Minist er of Railways. I passengers who used to travel by train now congratulate the hone Minister of Railways travel by bus and the Railways are losing and his Ministry for th e revenue receipts an income of Rs. 40 lakbs per day. The of over Rs. 100 crores for the peri<,d 1 st railway officers are Dot taking congnizance April to 30tb September. of this loss being suffered by the Railways. They merely say that the funds, are not The RaiJway departm"ent has set up a 8\'aiJabl e. new record in this respect. There bas Where will the funds come from? The always been a shortfall in the anticipated bus takes three hours to reach a destination revenue receipts in the Railway Budget and whereas tbe train takes 12 hours for the this is the first time that the actual revenue same distance. The poor pass&nger is receipts have exceeded it. You deserve forced to pay second class face and still he Kudos from the entire nation. does Dot reach his destination in time. The plight of passenger is deplorabl~ today. I congratulate you for setting up a new record in respect of revenue from freight Sir, I would like to tell you that tbe traffic, despite the constraints of using old behaviour of the Railway officials is Dot wagons. It is commendable that tbe Rail· good with the passengers. Often the way Miniitry achieved the target of lood~ palsengers are assaulted in the trains and traffic and there was optimum utilisation there are no security arrangements. There- of the existing goods wagons and the goods fore, there is need to provide securit~ not only reached their destination but in arrangements. time also.

I have to say one thing regarding I congratulate the Railway Ministry Rai!way Service Commissions. Sir, the for renewing 1190 Kilometres of railway persons who have passed Intermediate or track though the target was only 875 Kilo- B.A. and belong to the Scheduled Castes, metres. It is commandable. J am sure and Scheduled Tribes, are unab) e to secure thelt the target of renewal of rail track jobs through these commissions. The during this year would be achieved 800n. appointments are made through back door: This should be looked into. The representatives of the Scheduled Castes and the Tbere was widespread corruption in the Scbeduled Tribes should be appointed on Railway reservation system. The change these commissions to ensure justice to this in this system have helped in removing the class. doubts and apPl ehension of the people, about reservation which they thought cou1d ( Inierruptions)*· be done on Iy by greasing the palm of petty officials. The introduction of computerised [English[ reservetion system and other metbod for reJll()ving apprehension in the minds of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You bav.e people are commendable. ' The computer- already taken lot of time. Please Sl~. ised reservation system is being introduced down. I am callina the next speaker, Shr1 at many places and I hope that it hal eased tb~ situation. You deserve all appreci,. , **NQt Recorded. ~OD for this ••. (/n,.rruptltml). 3" Putwah-Islampur tlg'" AGRAHAYANA 21, i901 (S.4,KA) (Nationalisation) hill 378 Ratlway LIM and Supple D. for G. (Rlwys) 1985.86

You see it from your own aogle, try to more it strengtbentd the better it will be see it from our angie. I congratulate the and tbe Ministry deserves to te congratu- Railway Minister for taking up new pro· la'ed fcr tbis. I would ]ike to request you jects, speedios up work on the existing to tak e up the work on big projects imme- ones. and completing tbem by stipulated diately, particularly the conversion of time. I am happy tbat work on the Delhi,Ahmedabad railway line into broad Mathura-Alver railway line, which was (lauge ]ine for' which some amount was taken up after the supplementary Budlet in earmarked in the 1977.. 78 Budget and 1983.84, has started and earth work on survey wac; also conduct ed many times. 3 Kilometre stretch from Mathura end has All the state capitals are connected by been completed. Here. I would like to broad gauge Hne but the capital of Raja- submit that the former Railway Minister sthan, Jaypur is not. If the conversion of bad assured that the work on this broad tbe entire Delhi-Ahmedabad line cannot gauge line would start from the AJwar end. be taken up immediately then the work on The residentia 1 Quarters for staff have been DeJhi-Jaipur section should be taken up constructed, but much remains to be done in a phased manner and as and when the in other respects. Land has been acquired funds are made available the work on the from farmers but last formalities regarding route may be extended. The Vishwakarma compensation are yet to be completed. I Industrial area \\ hich is the biggest in A~ja would therefore, request tbe bon. Minister is located in Jaipur, which is on the world to fulfil tbe assurance given by the former tourist map but it bas not so far been link- Railway Minister in tbis regard and effort ed by any broad gauge line. As a resu It should be made to compl ete the work on of this no super thermal power plant can be the Alwar-Mathura BO line. set up in Jaipur because coal cannot be transported tbere through broad gauge line. The Public Accounts Commiuee had This is resulting in shortfall of power made an inspection of all the damaged, supply in Rajasthan. I would, therefore, bridges through out the country last year. A]J request the Government to make some the damaged bridges in Guwahati ~re being allocation in the coming budlet for the repaired. This shows how vigilant the conversion of Deihl-Ahmedabad line into Ra i1w8Y department is to its dut ies. broad gauge. The work on DeJhi-Rewarj· Alver-Jaipur section can be started in Besides, I would like to submit that a manner. There is double railway track the work on the railway overbr idge at upto Rewari aod if work on one rail way Alver, which is already sanctioned. has not track starts it wjll not pose any incoveni- started so far. I bope that this will be ence. . During the last six months tbere taken up very soon. Alwar fa lIs under the bas been sea cbange in tbe behaviour of Nationa1 Capita1 Region. Being a satelJ !te the railway staff. They are more courteous town of Delhi it has to be developed in all DOW. They have become efficient and respect because only then it can be helpful punctual. All the tl ains are running punct- in reducing the density of the rising popu· ually. There was a time when people lation in Delhi. Provision for transport- used to set their watches by railway timIngs. ation is most essentia1. I congratulate the I hope that if tbe Ministry works efficiently hone Railway Minister for his effort in same situation could be restored. There this regard. . Tbe Planning .Commission is is need to pay a ttention to staff welfare in 1 all prai5e for the Railway Minis cr for the the Railways lIk e chiJdren"s education, and first time and it has raised tbe out Jay of the medica) facilities. There is need to pro- annual plan from Rs. 1650 crores to Rs. vide facilities at bait station, where the 2050 crore~-an increase ofRs. 400 crores. staff is forced to stay after duty hOurs. The Planning Commission has realised tbat The Railway are functJoning as a commer- the Railway Ministry is capable of doing cial organisation and earning proins and, effective work and it is not solely depen.. thorefore, it 8hould pay Specil£J attention to dent on the consolidated fund of India; it is also:capabJ e of mobilising internal resour· staff welfare and pro\fide more faciliti e~ to ~O'. This il an acbiovemcat in Itself and tbe them. WiSb tbes~ wor~s I thauk III e hQQ, 379 FUlwata-tslampu, LI,;" bSCBMB2A i2. 191; ~IG'_i;ifJtiO,.)-·IIIP· Railway Line * Gnd Suppl. B. /_~. (Rlwys) 1985.. 86

[[Shri Ram Singh Yadav] Another point tbat I want to make is M:nister and his Ministry for tbe efficient with regard to electrification of lolarpet. Bangalore line. Wheo it bad been appro.' working which is commendable. \led by tbe Planning CommisaioD iD tlte Sixth Plan aDd tbis HOUle bad giv.ca itl [Engli.sh] sea). the Railway Ministry bad DO busl... to abandon the scbeme. I read an article SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore in the Hindu that there is a Jobby -of South) : Mr. Deputy-Speaker. Sir, this mechanical engineers in the Railway Board. exercise which we have been having for This is a very serious matter. The boa. the last three and a half bours shan not Minister should look ioto it. become futile. Now tbat tbe 7th Plan has been finalised, we have a doubt what I have just two or three more point•• the Railway Minister is going to do with Now, I would like to draw your attentioD regard to the finances. We are making a to Konkan Railway. number of suggestions; For one year I have corresponded with the Ra ilway Minis- PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Yes Sir. We ter to the maximum extent. In every support you in this. Jetter, the reply says that due to constraint of resources, it is not possible to agree to SHRI V.S. KRISHNA lYER : This is the suggestioD. It should not happen. not political and everybody wants it. Sufficient· funds should be provided for tbis Konkan Railway. Hon. Minister you are Only this morning witb one voice all YOUllg and energetic. Eveybody is praisi11l of us demanded tbat suffici ent allocation be you. J will also praise you. You do made in the Plan for education. Similar)y, something for us and do Dot disaPPOint the whole House is one in demanding that us. the Plan should be recast and sufficient funds should be plovided for the railways, Plea·e p;ovide sufficient funds for West otherwise the railways will be helpless. Coast Railway also. Now I come to COD- versions because it is very important. You Many otner Members from my State should allocate funds for the conversion of have spoken about Karnataka; I will not, Miraz-Baogalore line into broad gau,e. therefore, make a speech, but will only On.going project, Cbitradurga-Raidurp make a few suggestion. new line also should be given more funds. Hospet-Hubli line also should be conver. The Railway Minister in his Budget ted into Broad Gaule. bad assured the House that priority will be liven to on.. going projects. What about Now I would like to mention about some of the schemes so far as Karnataka is some new routes which are pending for the concerned? One b cODversion of Banga- past two or tbree decades. Hubli-Karwar Jore-Mysore line to broadgauge. It is line which is very important for the deve- nine years since the work was started but lopment of northern districts of Karnataka, we do not know when it would be finished, Chamarajnagar • Sattyamangalam·Mettupal- because Dot even 2 S per cent work has yam Line and Kottur-Haribar line sbould been finished. Though the railway be taken up immediately. Conversion of administration durin a the last year wanted Salem-BangaJore line into broad lauge B.s. 20 crores for the development of rail- line should be taken up. Mr. D.uty Ways in the Karoataka State during 1985. Speaker you are also interested in this. 86, they got only B.s. 4.63 crores. Whereas the allocation for 1984-8 S was Rs. 61 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Mention crores. As a&ain~t the allocation of Ra. 2 Pondicherry-Bangalore line also. crores for the yoar 1984-85, this year only R.s. SO laths wore sanctioned for tbe SHItI V.S. KRlSHNA Iysa: Now·1 Uaoliuore-M)'soro coDvcrsioD job. would like to mCQtioD about tbc" Rapi4 381 PutwaJ,-lslampur Llgh, AGRABAYANA 21, 1907 (SArA) (Natlonallsatton) Bill 382 RIIIlwII7 Li". and Supple D./or G. (Rlw}'s) 1985.86

Transit System Project for Bangalore city. abandoned. It should be converted into Ban.alore is· the fas t est growing city. Our broad ga uge. That is all. friend Shri Jaffar Sharief was very kind COOUlh to get the scbeme formulat od. He MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House is Dot tbere now to get it sanctioned. I stands adjourned tiB 11 O'clock tomo .. request you to sanction tbis very impor. row. tant project for Bangalore city. Then Sir, there sbould be daily train from Baoplore 19.07 hrs. to Delbi. The £Ok Sabha then adjourned I ill Eleven Lastly, the Ctlikkaballapura-Banga ru- 0/ the Clock on Friday, December 13, peta narrow gauge line should not be 1985/ A grahayana 22, 1907 (Saka).

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