331 ..,." AM_Ill- SEPTEMBER 10, 1191 miSlact Railway employees would be sym- course of reply to the td Budget debate and- ~c:onsidered and would be sent to later on also. I want to InfOrm my friends that the Cabinet for Its approval. Again on 21 st they don't need to bring any more pressure, August. the Railway Minister made a stat.. no need for dhama. I have made my recom- rrient on the floor of this House that the issue mendation to the Cabinet formally. Once it of the reinstatement of dismissed Railway comes before the Cabinet. it can be attended employees has been sent to the Cabinet for to .. Its approval. SHRI SOMNATH--CHAITERJEE: Fa- Sir, already 20 days have elapsed. vourably? (Interruptions). These dismissed Railway employees are out Of jobs for more than eleven years. A few ( Translations) of these employees hiV8atreadydied. Many of them are starving. The RaHway Minister is SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Oeoria): Mr. hera. May I know from the Railway Minister Speaker, Sir, asamatteroffact,ldonotwant as to when these dismissed Railway em- to raise these questions time and again in ployees who were dismissed in January, the House as they fall under the jurisdiction 1980 and who are numbering more than 600 of the Government. But we have certain would be reinstated, as the order was passed compulsions. One of our friends, Mr. Sharda by the previous Govemment? May I know Prasad Rawat was assassinated yesterday from the Minister, who is here, when this and even before his dead body was con- reinstatement would be made? When these signed to flames, a murderous assault was Railway employees would be reinstated? made on Shri Chhote lal Yadav, another Both the Ministers of Ministry of RaHways are colleague of ours. Today Moming. I talked to here. doctors on telephone who say that he is still not out of danger. His condition is very criti- Sir, the Railway Minister can tell the cal. One of the brothers of our sitting M.L.A. House. This is the demand of the entire from Ghaziabad constituency was killed. I do House. There are no two opinions in this. not want to blame anyone. But I want to say The entire House is unanimous on this. this much that both Shri Sharda Prasad These employees are out of jobs for eleven Rawat and Chhote Lal Yadav worked with years. They should be reinstated. They Mr. Kalyan Singh in the U.P. Cabinet during should be brought back to their jobs. May I 19n. (Interruptions) ., know from the Minister to tell this House of the action he is going to take? (Inteffuptions) SHRI MADAN LAL-KHURANA (South Delhi): He has referred to the Chief-Minister SHRt SOMNATH CHATTERJEE( by name (Interruptions) BoIpur): Sir, when this issue was raised earlier, you have been pleased to make an [English] observation that we should accept the sym- pathetic approach as a commitment. That SHRI CHANORAJEET YAOAV commitment is not being fuHilled. He says he (Azamgarh): Sir, they have withdrawn the has referred to Cabinet. When the Cabinet security to all the leaders. There is an organ- wII take a decision? (Intsnvptions) ised attack on political leaders. Don't allow these things to happen in this country. (Inter- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRt ruption). C.K. JAFFER SHAREF>: Sir, this demand has been going on. repeatedly during the There is an organised attack, they have BHADRA 19, 1913 (SAKA) Wrilten AnswelS 334 withdrawn security to all political leaders. [MR. SPEAKER In the Chak] The U.P. Govemment is indulging in political vendetta and organising attack on all poIlti- [English] calleac:ktrs. They were the Ministers in the U.P. Govemment. Where are we going to MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mohan Singhjiwas seek protection? If the whole Govemment on his legs. I wiD allow him to complete and commits an organised political vendetta and then Shri Ram Vilas Paswan will speak. • attack on political leaders, withdrawing their security, where will we seek protection, I [ Translation] wantto,know. Mr. Advani said yesterday that he would also intervene and tell the Chief SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI Minister. Let him tell his Chief Minister. (Inter- (Saidpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have given a ruptions). have a meeting with all of qus. If notice on some other subject. you are honest, call a meeting with him. They have withdrawn the security to an political [English] leaders and they are being attacked, they are being killed. This kind of Government is MR. SPEAKER: Well, I think that we functioning in Uttar Pradesh today. We are should not prolong the discussion. What one not going to allow such things to happen in or two Members are saying is going to be, by this country. (Interruptions). the large, the. view of the Members belonging to one Party or the other and so, please do Atthis stage, Shri Rajnsth SonkarShastri not allow it to spill over into a wider area and and some other Hon. Members came and please let it be contained. May I request the stool on the floor near the Table. other hon. Members not~o insist on speaking and other on this issue? (Interruptions) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats. Let me say-something now. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: I did not level allegations against anyone. ,(Interruptions.) MR. SPEAKER: You may explain your MR. SPEAKER: Please you go back to point in plain words. your seats. Let me say something. SHRI MOHAN SINGH: Mr. Speaker, (Interruptions. ) Sir. I am relating my tale of woes to the august House, as ,to how our colleagues are MR SPEAKER: I adjourn the House to being killed on after another. But the problem meet again at 12.45 p.m. is that:-

12.14hra "Hum aah bhi bharate hain, to ho jate hain badnam The LDIc Sabha then adjoumed tlU forty- Wo kata! bhi karte hain, to five minutes past Twelvs of the Clock. charcha naheen hota-.

The difficulty with us is that assault was The Lok Sabha reassembled at totty eight made on two of our former ministers in which minutes past Twelve of the Clock. one died and the condition of the other is critical. Both of them tNlppaned to be the Yesterday J raised the Issue of the CDIIeagues of the present Chief Minister murdar of Shri Sharda Prasad Rawat and during 1977. I am distressed to say that the today another such Incident took place ~en State Government neglected the security of Shri Chhote Lal Yaelav. the former Uttar tbeirforrner ministers and former M.L.A. Had Pradesh Minister and a devoted worker to poper attention been paid to thair security the cause of the poor was shot at today. He the aasassInation of political leaders would Is reported to be struggling for life. So it Is not at all have started in Uttar Pradesh. All natural that we are not only concemed over . these political workers who belong to our it, but we have resentment and distress also party are being assassinated one after an- on the recurrence of such incidents. other. I is a very serious matter. If the State Govemment is unable to provide security to political activists. the Central Govemment Shri Lal K. Advanl, the leader of the must inteNene. I want to submit that the opposition and the top leader of the Bhara- Government should assist Uttar Pradesh tiya Janata Party is present here; I would like Govemment for providing security to the to request him to provide security in Uttar political workers who are working for the Pradesh without any consideration of party poor. the backward the downtrodden and affiliation. as security has been withdrawn the minorities. With this. I draw the attention from the residences of all the leaders. I am of the Govemment to this issue and I con- not in favour of providing security to all, nor clude. do I favour its withdrawal from all. Security is provided to the one who needs it but when it SHRI RAM VIlAS PASWAN (Rosera): is alleged that the withdrawal of his security Mr. Speaker. Sir, recently you had convened has resulted in the murder of a person, it a meeting of leaders of all the parties and I definitely becomes a matter of concem and am happy to note that you as well as the the incident which has recurred is very re- leader of opposition had taken the issue grettable, regrettable for us, the political seriously. 1had raised this issue in the House workers as wen as for the Uttar Pradesh yesterday also when I got the news of Shri Govemment. So, I would like to request Shri Sharda Prasad Rawat's assassination. At Advanl who is the leader of the opposition that time Shri Sitaram Kesri who was sitting and that of the Bhartiya Janata Party, to opposite to us said that our voice was-low' ensure that such incidents do·not recur and (kJtsmptJons) hence should speak t~ the Uttar Pradesh Govemment The Minister of Home Affairs is SHRI SITARAM KESRI: I was not point- here, I do not know where was he an these ing to you only. days. Now that this untoward incident has taken place (/ntempions) SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Since we .. aI political workers. we all come here from the political field. Today, they are in [Eng/lsh) power and we sit In opposition. It could be that we won't remain an M.P. the other day. MR. SPEAKER: He is not having any Nobody knows as to where we will the next . notice. He Is in the Rajya Sabha. He is moment. It is not known whether we will be Leader of the Rajya Sabha. on the roads or in the Parliament. But this does_ mean that by coming to roads one SHRI DIGVUAYA SINGH (Rajgarh): n WDUId lose his 18I-rwapect. must be expunged. , 337 Written Ans..,. 08IW)RA 19,1913 (SAKAl" WrfttM Ans ...,. S38

[ Translation] since the State Govemment Is indulging in mass transfers and posting. only and Is on SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: I myself the lookout as to how they could attack the withdrew my statement and 80 It stands former Chief Minister and a particular caste expunged (Interruptions) There Is nothing to which he belongs. (Interruptions) unparliamentary In 'napping'. I would like to request the Minister of State for Home Af- MR. SPEAKER: Now you conclude it. fairs who is present In the House to take this Please sit down. (Interruptions)

Issue ° seriously, discuss It with the Uttar Pradesh Govemment and let the House SHRI LAL K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, know about the action taken in this connec- yesterday, when the Issue of the murder of tion. Shrl Rawat was raised, I told that there must be such type of atmosphere allover the SHRI SATYA PAL SINGH YADAV country which may enable every political (Shahjahanpur): Sir, I would not like to speak worker in democracy to perform his work much. I have to say one or two things only. without any faar. lowe my responsibility to Just a few hours after the murder of Sharda maintain such atmosphere in the States ruled Prasad Rawat, fatal attack was made on by the Bhartiya Janata Party. However, nei- Chhotey Lal Yadav. This Incident did ·not ther I am not In a position to answer any issue take place on a roadside. When Chhotey laI in detail nor this forum is appropriate for that. Yadavwas sitting in the house of Shrl Mohan Many issues can be discussed in the Vldhan Lal Gupta in Khaga Tehsil, the assassins Sabha where many of our representatives come there and pumpedbulle~ into his head are sitting. No one can answer their ques- and he is in a state of coma. My submission tions here. Neither t~e Home Minister nor I Is that these two very persons who had ~n can do it. In this connection, the only thing my colleagues in the Uttar Pradesh Vidhan that I can do -and I am confldantth&t all of the Sabha, asked me to request Shri Kalyan members of the House will do the same - Is Singh donot be scared of his name - who is to condemn it. I should rather use the word ' the Chief Minister, to provide him body- unreserved condemnation' of the murder of guards for his security. I told him that I am Shri Rawat as also todays' attack on another mysel an M.P., I had been an M.P. and the person. No body will disagree with this. I do leader of the opposition too in the past. but not know whether there was any lapse in yet hon. Mulayam Singh Yadav, the then providing security, but as I promised yester- Chief Minister withdraw my gunners despite day, I have told the Chief Minister categori- the fact that I had bean the leader of the cally. When I spoke to him and told him to oppoSItiOn party that tlma. I told him that look into the entire issue in order to find out even my gunners have been withdrawn, 80 whether It was a case of personal animosity how can I provide him security. or a Pofdical murder. he told me that accord- ing to the information he had so far, the F.I.R Sir, the second thing that I want to say is lodged did not mention any name of a politi- that the main reason forthe prevailing fear at cal leader or a political worker. Whatever is pntMnt Is that 70 per cant S.H.Os of the perceivable there is that it does not appear to police station have baen sant to the C.I.D. as be political. Yet, I insisted that a thorough has been the case In Fatehpur. Sir, they did investigation should· be done in the case not join their duly and as a result. an the because I there is a poItIcaI murder, the police stations ... lying unmanned the.... case becomes more serious, I it Is individual Hence the aluation of law and order Is dete- one, in that case also it Is serious. murder in doraIlng au over the Stat•. My request lethat any case is a serious matter, but If a murder SEPTEMBER 10. '811

is political one. it Is much mora serious. I can 13.00 hr. say only this much thal sofaras UttarPradash is concerned, it is alert to its duties and We all know that according to the responsibiIitie and after all I am satisfied Constitutional provisions, they are to be dealt with the situation of law and order there. with mainly by the State Goverr-ments. The (~) Sua:ess to some extent has Govemment of India also has some moral been achieved in containing the activities of responsibility in regard to these atrocities of the mafia gangs. (Interruptions) I agree that other kind and a remote responsbDity too, to the deserving persons, the political workers provide guidelines on the policies also. must be given security but at the same time I would also like to say that while taking the We are told that the hone Prime Minister decisions pertaining to security, the Chief is going to call a meeting of the Chief Minis- Minister has taken into consideration the fact ters, to discuss the atrocities on the weaker that the security guards are not misused as sections in the society. I think, that the mat- has been done in the past when the people ters relating to atrocities on Scheduled Castes were provided security guards but they were .and Scheduled Tribes are going to be dis- running mafia gangs. (Interruptions) cussed there. I have some information, which is not confirmed, thatthe matters relating to [English} atrocities or the condition of the women may also be discussed. I think, it would be appro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE priate, if the matter relating to the security of MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS the politicians also is discussed in the meet- AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ing. MINISTRYOFHOMEAFFAIRS(SHRIM.M. JACOB): Sir, I listened to the observations. Now, these are the matters which can- made by various leaders of the various politi- not be taken up without any notice and cal parties. There is no doubt that the secu- discUssed and policies cannot be formu- rity of an individual, more so a political worker, lated. It is necessary to apply our mind in is important and that has to be provided. But depth to these issues and then discuss these is always depends on the assessment of the matters with the Chief Ministers and the threat perception and if the Government is State Governments, who are mainly respon- convinced that there is a threat, security has sible. So, I think, it would be in the fitness of to be provided. In this particular instance, I things, if this matter also iii taken upthe in the also join all the leaders in their feelings and meeting of the NOC or in any other meeting. the condemnation of the attack. But. at the I think. this House, will certainly be happy if same time, the Home Minister shall get in this matter is discussed over there and I touch with 1he U.P. Government to know hope that the Government will take note of it. further details about it. Otherwise, I may not be able to provide you any information at the Once more thing. Today, may I request moment. Certainly, we shall speak to the the hone Members, not to press to raise other Chief Minister of the State Government on issues because already we have taken up this issue. one hour and there are other important leg- islative business with us and If we ~ not MR. SPEAKER: Matters relating to transathe legislative business and all those atrocities on Scheduled Trbes and Schad·- otherthings, it would be very difficult to finish uled Castes and assaults on the politicians the legislative work within the time in which aro discussed on the floor of the House it has to be done. Because, the BUIs have to many times. be passed by this House and they have to go