Identification ¯ C. 56/K95019002/04/94.

Duration ¯ 60rein.

Quality

Transmission " RTLM.

Nameof transcriber ¯ GatimbiroUwera Olga.

Dateof transcription ’9/5/2000.

Nameof file ’0190.

Dictaphone ¯ ExpressWrite Model 250-65n516525.

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FACE A. * Kantanonous parle de l’insécurité quirègne dans ville. Etplus précisementchez Agathe UWILINGIYIMANA, Joseph KAVARUGANDA, ThomasKABONABAKE, Fréderic RWEMARIKA etc... * Cornmuniqués. * KAVARUGANDAestmenacé par la gardeprésidentielle et par monsieur KAYONDE Enock.

FACE B. * On accusemonsieur MULIHIRA Eugène qui travaille au CCDFPet le FPRde vouloirtuer monsieur Thomas KABONABAKE. * BIKINISimon est aussi menacé. * Lamentationssurl’insécurité quirègne dans la ville. * Communiqués. KO~I~. 096~ Orateur¯ HABIMANAKantano, ...abumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM mwese turabashuhuje mukomere, mukomere, mwaramutse muteaho iwanyu? Umutekano wifashe gute aho iwanyu? Hum, hano i Kigalirero ha ho twaramutseariko rero, hum ! I Kigalintabwo bwikera neza, cyane cyane muri iyi minsi, muri iyi minsirwose wagira ngo hatewe na shitani, abicanyi bamaze kuba ishyano ryose. Hari umuntu umbwiyeati "nyuze hariya ku muhanda munini, munini uwo bita Poids lourds, hasi ku kimi.., ku Kimihurura,niuriya muhanda wo hasiku Kinamba"ati "ni uko tuhasanga umurambo w’umuntu" ati"kandi no kuKicukiro hagomba kuba na none hakomerekeye abantu".

Ubworero murumva y’uko umutekano ad mukemuri Kigali, ku buryouyu munsi uyu munsi uwo mutekanoniwo tureba, ni wotureba uko wifashe, turareba umutekano ukowifashe muri Kigali, cyanecyane uko abantu babi.., umutekano kubantu, umutekano lcubintu ariko rero ku bantu na noneturagenda tureba uko bimeze. Turareba umutekano muke kwa Madame UWILINGIYIMANAAgata, Ministre w’Intebe wa Guverinomayaheze mu cyuho,turareba umutekanomuke kwa BwanaKAVARUGANDA Yosefu, Bwana KAVARUGANDA Yosefu i... igikomangoma,Président w’Urukiko rw’i... Rusesa imanza, turareba umutekano muke kwa BwanaKABONABAKE Thomas, Thomas ku Kicukiro,turareba umutekano muke ku munyamakuruwo muri Télévision y’u witwa.., witwa RWEMARIK Frederiko, aho ni kuGitega, turareba umutekano muke muri.., muri Segiteri... murisegiteri Kimihurura, urebwa ni BwanaGATABAZI aho ngaho mu Rugando,turareba umutekano muke mu ndayaz’i Matimba, turarebaumutekano muke ku bararairondo mu Nyakabanda,hanyuma turanyarukira no muri

,’. , KomineKarago na hohari umuntu uvuga ati "nyabuneka nimuntabare nanjye ndarenganye". Hari n’abandibenshi umutekano muke umeze nabi, ariko rero mbese muri make abo bantu bose turagendatureba umutekano wabo muke uko wifashe.

Eh...Madame UWILINGIY1MANA Agata arateza ubwega ngo yabonye umuntu ufite icyuma hum,ni bwobwa mbere abona umuntu ufite intwaro ahari, kujya gusura Madame UWILINGIYIMANAAgata, ni ukurindagusakwa mpaka no kurebaku cyoumuntu yamba... yambafiyeho!Niakumiro! Ieyizera... ieyizere nigike.

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Turarebauko ibintu bimeze, hanyuma rero turabagezaho amatangazo yanyu, turabagezaho ubutumwabwanyu, hanyuma, mu gihetugitegereje gukora amakarita y’abantu basaba indirimbo turabahakalift, ka lift ni ukuvuga abantu basabira abandi uturirimbo barabamenyesha kobail mu biruhuko,barabamenyesha utuntu n’utundi. Abo ndetse ni bo mu kanya tuza guheraho. Muri iki gitondorero kuva nonaha saa kumi n’ebyi...

3.2 hum! Saambiri kugeza saa sita muri kumwe na HABIMANAKantano kuri micro hanyuma ha... ha...ubwo rero ni njyetwirirwa tuganira kugeza saa sita z’amanywa, hanyuma NTEZIMANA Jeanari kuri technique, adkuri technique hanyuma huuum ! Secrétairewacu na we Agnès arabategerejekugira ngo muzane amatangazo menshi, menshi, ubutumwa bwanyu hanyuma 1.»~..4 tubatumikirekanokanya, arabategereje hano,yakeye, yaryoshye, hanyuma "abasekirite" bacuha bobarahari kugira ngo bajye babereka aho munyura hatagira ubahutaza, hatagira ubahutaza. Birumvikanantabwo ad bobabahutaza, hum,ahubwo barabereka bati nyura aha, ntutsitare, nyura muriiyi escalier, dore aho batangira amatangazo, woweuzanywe n’iki, mu kinyabupfura cyinshi cyane.

Hanorero kuri Radiyo RTLM ivugira i Kigali aho dutuye, aho dutuye ubu ni... hafi ya Banque de Kigali,hafi ya Banque de Kigali ukase gato imbere ya Présidenee uvuye ku bitaro, niumuharïda gusaukomeza gutyo, ni hafiyo kwamukeba Radiyo Rwanda.

Ubworero mukomeje kumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira hano i Kigali,abatwumva mwese x,»k,,s. mwese,abadukunda tutabazi, hum, natwe turabakunda kurusha, abadukunda tubazi byo ni ubunani,hanyuma abatwanga tutabazi, twebwe turabasabira, turabasabira kuMana kugira ngo yendaiyo mukushi izabave ku mutima, kuko muri make turabona batwangira ubusa.

Mukomejekumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira i Kigali, ubu ni saa mbiri, saa mbiri n’iminota cumisaa mbiri n’iminota eumi n’itatu muri sitidiyo zaRadiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira hano i Kigali.Niitafiki ebyiri niitariki ebyeri niku wa gatandatu itariki ebyeri z’ukwezi kwakane mu

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gihumbikimwe magana cyenda mirongo cyenda na kane,hum. Hanyuma rero mwese mwese turabasuhuza,hinga dutangirire kuri iyi ndirimbo.

... abatwumvamwese mwese mwese, abatwumva mwese, aho mutwumvirahose, mukomere turabasuhuza,turabifuriza weekend nziza, umunsi mwiza mwese abumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM.

Murikino gitondo rero hari abantu bageragaje, bagize amahirwe yo kutwandikiranone tukaba tugirango tubatumikire kubera y’uko ha bo hariabantu basuhuza. Hari UMUTESI Chantal uri i Kigali,we aravugaati "neuti yaeu munyamaku.., munyamakuru wa RTLM, mbere na mbere tubanjekubasuhuza", hum, "tubanje kuba.., kubasuhuza ariko tubabaza tuti ese abatsinze imshanwary’ibidukikije bigeze he’" ? Muby’ukuri nababwiye y’uko biri hall, biri hafi rwose ¯ . j ndumvabitazarenza ku wa kabirimutaramenya abatsinze, hanyuma noneho abahembwa mukazafataibihembo byanyu, ni bihembobishimishije. Abagize anaahirwe rero bazabifata, hanyuman’abakora irushanwa rya namwe mugire vuba, mugire vuba. Hari ababaza bati "esetuzategereza ko tubona Kangura eshatu", haa, ndakeka y’uko ibyo ail byo byose

6.6 kuguraKangura eshatu ni ukongeraamahirwe, ni ukongeraamahirwe kuko icyo gihe e... uba ushubijeibintu gatatu, ushobora rero kubona amahirwe kurushaho. Ee... cyangwa se wowe ukisubiriza,ugaha umugore na we agasubizamw’izina rye, nyuma ugaha umwana agasubiza, nonehoubwo ngubwo amahirwe akaba atashye mu rugoad mensbiyo kubonaibihembo. Hanyumarero UMUTESI Chantal wowe uravuga uti.., uti waravuze ngo "hari aba.., hari ababandikirababashima gusa" uti "rwose reka babashime muba rnwakoze neza, none se babagaya muvugishaukuri ? Uvugaukuri buri gihe kuko dutega amatwi cy«me RTLM, ubwo rero ntabwo uvugaukuri dushobora kumugaya kuko ibintu byinshi mujya muvuga tujya tubibona". Ati "rero nonehounture akaririmbo, akaziki rwose", ati "ko ku muzikimwaratinze" ati"munture ka "Kalayi Boeing"cyangwa ka "PapaPlus", ati "rwose" ati "ako mubona muri izo ngizo mukanture", ati "ndagatura"abajene" bose b’a.., b’abayenshuli bari mu bimhuko,eyane eyane ababa muri home desjeunes filles yo mu Rugunga",ati "mukomeze muryoherwe na ambiance".

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 4 MUTORWA,MUTORWA Marie-Claire wo muriGroupe scolaire za’irois de Gikondo,huuum, ati "rwosendagusaba indirimbo "Papa plus" nkayitura aba bakurikira ¯ Mama uri ku Muhima, UMULISAAlphonsine, FAYIDA Justine, e... MBULANGAJustin, MUTUNGIREHE Olivier, KANSOKISandrine wo muriGroupe scolaire zaïrois, MACOZI Solange, GAHIGI Hubert haaa GAHIGIHubert agomba kuba ari umuhi.., ari u... ail umuhungu wa GAHIGIGaspard (rire), NDAGIJIMANAFroduard, hum, hanyuma na NIYIBIZIHamida". Abo boseuti "ndabasuhuza.

Nitwa MUTORWAMarie-Claire".

MACOZISolange na we wo muriGroupe scolaire ziirois, za... école... humt Groupe scolaire zairoishafiya i Gikondo, nawe aravugaati "nyituye ababyeyi banjye bari i Gikondo, abanyamakuruba RTLM bose", murakoze. Mu... mu... MUTANA Marie-Claire, huumt (tire) MUTAMAMarie-Claire alias Kantano,GAHIGI Hubert, MUSHIM/YIMANA alias NKOMATI" ayayaya! Huumt KASAKI Sandrine, NYIRASINAMENYEAnisie, ~SONI Hortense, bakuru banjye bose, hanyuma BYAMUNGU MUGANGA, SEBAHAKWA Nadine, KABERA MANGAZAn’abandi bose", huum! Nanjye nshuhuje Habiba, Habiba na we yigamuri a... ce... école...muri Groupe scolaire zaïrois i Gikondo, amakuru ki ? Hengansuhuze abakinnyi ba Kiyovu,abakinnyi ba Kiyovu (tire), abakinnyî ba Kiyovu bose baraye muri.., baraye bakoreye locali Matimba,na ka Miitzigbavuga bati STIR ntabwo iduhagarara imbere uyu munsi, bati "ntacyoburiya turayi.., turayirya nubwo twaba twanyweye kaMiitzig (tire).

NsuhuzeSAFARI Emest, SAFARI Emest wo kurîStation y’i Shyorongi i Kigali, hnun, bosè... hnun,n’ab’i Shyorongi bose baravuga bati "dukunda Radiyo RTLM". Mwese rero abadukunda tutabazi,mukomere cyane natwe turabakunda, turabakunda rwose muhorane amahoro

n’amahirwe.

10.0 Undiwasabye akafirimbo ni uwitwaMUKAMUSONI Hortense kurî iyi weekend, MUKAMUSONIHortense arayisabira Marraine utuye i Kayove,HUM..., NYIRANKEZABO Adelan’umuryango we wose, abanyeshuli bo mu... bo ku Nyundo,eyane eyane CYIZA Nataeha,

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ababyeyibe batuyei Gikondo,ieyana, icyana Nyirishema Sipriyani wiga muri.., uri muri campus y’iMburabuturo, NYIRASINAMENYE Aniziya ee... na nyirakuruuri i lubu..,i Lubumbashi, MACOZISolange wiga muri Ecolezaïroise, BABONANGENDA Izabela, TABU Elianne yiga muriEcole zafroise, n’UMULISA Delphine n’icyana cye KABILIGI, hum, utwana two mu rugo: Mireille,Odette, René, Patrick, Serge, abo bose rero mukomere mugire weekend nziza.

Undiwasabye akaririmbo rwose ni uwitwaHABUKUBAHO Gilbert wo muriETL i Gikondo, hum,muri ETL i Gikondo,we akavugaati "nyituye abanyamakuru bose", ati ariko muyinturire na mamaNIYIBOEI Mélanie na bashikibanjye bose, murumuna wanjye NSHIM/YIMANA Albert, datawacu NSANZABALINDA Denis uri i Remeraya Kigali,umuryango wa ma...wa MAJORO

,,.:. twa...ee..,wa majorTWAMBAZE Aloys uri ku Muhima,NTAHOMVUKIYE Jean d’Amour uri i -.-.. Cyangugu,BASABOSE... BASABOSE Cléophas uri mu Ruhengerina NDAYAMBAJEAlbert urii Kigali.

Hanyumaundi na we ufiteamahirwe muri iki gitondoni TUYISENGEJean-Pierre, TUYISENGE Jean-Pierrena NDAHAYO Théoneste, ariko bo ni agahindabafite baravuga bail "abaminuwari" baradufashekandi bavuga ngo dufite grenade kandi nta zo babonye.

Ahubwonsuhuze BIGUMA Jean-Baptiste wo muri..,wo mu Ruhengeri,BIGUMA Jean-Baptiste, ayayaya!We aravugaati yanditse mu cyongeleza,yanditse mu eyongelezaa... adusuhuza asuhuza abakoziba RTLM.Ah! Thankyou mister BIGUMA, thank you, uhum T Undini nde? Undini wiha..,uwihanga... WIHANGANE Anselme wo mu Rwungerw’amashuli i ~~° Rambura,deuxième biochimie, akaba ari mu biruhukohano i Kigali.Aravuga ati "Kantano amakuruyawe ? Ubunatwe turaho, ibiruhuko biragenda neza, kandi nawe ndakeka ko akazi kagendaneza. Uretse bariya bategetsi bakomeje kuduheza mu gihirahiroeyane eyane uriya MudamuAgata wigize indakoreka, ariko ni ugukomezatukagerageza nubwo twe nta kintu twabikoraho,tubahanze amaso aho tutari murahatubereye.

Reroikitenye ku kwandikiraRTLM... kwandikira RTLM cya.., eyane, hum, ni ukotuyikunda

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 6 cyanee...! No kugirango rero mbashime kuko mumgezaho amakuru meza. Maze rero mumbabariremuntufire iyi ndirimbo TWAGIRAYEZU Emmanuel wo mufiKomine Karago, RUKEBESHAPierre wo mufiKomine Karago, NISINGIZWE Claude... Claudel wo mufi..,wo

12.9 mu vacancesi Kigali, sibosi... SIBOSIKO Denis, NDAYISHIMIYE Aroni, NTYONZIMA Jean, SERUGANGOJean-Claude wo muri Komine Mukingo, hanyuma n’abanyeshuli bo muri deuxièmebiochimie muri.., i muri... Rambura, bose bose bose mbatuye iyo ndirimbo, mukomere rero.

Hingaiyi ndirimbo nyiture, nyiture, hum, n’uyu mushoferi, umushoferi utwara taxi DB zero ¯ karindwimirongo ine na gatanu, miro.., nako mirongo ine na... ee...mirongo ineha gatanu, DB zerukarindwi mirongo ine na gatanu, hum, afite kigingi sinamwita kigingi rero ngo ni convoyeur witwaJordan hein, witwa Jordan yiyogoshesheje hoseashigaje icyanwa gusa. Ngo arimwo aragendaahamagara "abakliya", gusa namubwiye yuko ingorane afite ni uko imodoka ye, imodokataxi ye ntabwo igira radiyo, ntabwo igira radiyo, rwose radiyo ko idahenda kuki mudashyiramoamaradiyo ngo abantu bagende biyumvira RTLM, biyumvire amaradiyo bumvê ukoibintu bimeze, hein, inkuru zishyushye?

Hanyumanyiture rero n’abaduhaye pasika, bahaye abakozi ba RTLM bose pasika mwese muzagirePasika nziza. Hanyuma hari n’abadutumira, hum,nka GAHAMBUGA Innocent, G AMBUGAInnocent utuye ku Kicukiro,ubwo rero mwese musa.., hafi yo kwaCharlotte, ~j Charlotte,GAHARAMBUGA Innocenti mwese mukomere, muri iki gitondo RTLM irabashuhuje. Hingatubarebere akaririmbo keza mbere y’uko tureba iby’umutekano. Iby’umutekanoiwacu, iby’umutekano iwacu, turebe umutekano wa BwanaKAVARUGANDA Yozefuuko wifashe, nk’uko byasohotse mukinyamakuru Isibo, hanyuma turareba umutekano wa MadamuUWlLINGIYIMANA Agata, Madamu UWILINGIYIMANA Agata usigaye ubona ibyumabyo.., ibyuma byo muri.., byo mu gikoni akavuza induru, sinzi noneho niba azashobora kujyaajya muri za banquets, kuko haba hari ibyuma byinshi byinshi, niba rero atinya ibyuma...

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 7 icyumacyo muri cuisine ngo ni ukoakibonanye "umusederi", ngoubwo igihugu gicitse umugongongo barashaka kumugandagura. Turaza kureba n’icyo abo bantu bafitiye ubwoba n’icyobatinya, hum.

Turarebaumutekano muke kwa KABONABAKE Thomas, umunyamakuru, turareba umutekano mukeku munyamakuruwacu RWEMARIKA Frederiko ee..., umunyamakuru wo kwa mukeba, RWEMAR]KAFrederiko ukora kuri Télévision akaba atuye mu Gitega.

Hanyuma...muriSegiteri Kimihurura hobyifashe bite ? Indayaz’i Matimba nazo zirataka ziti "baradufatakungufu", ati "ibi ni iki, hum ko tuba twaje guhaha agafaranga". Abarara irondo rero bo mu Nyakabandaha bo barayebambuye umugabo witwa KAYIBANDA, hein, akaba bamwambuyeudufaranga magana abiri kandi ail umukarani f Ati "abo bantu ko bavugango bararairondo, kugira ngo bacurike abantu ni ukubera iki"? Ayayayaf

Mbereyo kubigarukahoariko hari umuntu twafi twibagiwe, hari umuntu twad twibagiwe witwa MUSABYIMANAEmmanuel, akaba ad umukoziwa hano,sécurité waeu rero akaba ejo yara...

16.0 yaragiyegusezerana n’umugore we, witwa UMURERWA Solange, hein, i G-atonde,uhum, i Gatondemuri Segiteri Gahanga Selile Buhorabuye. Ahorero nyine ni ho basezeraniye, ubwouyu munsimu gitondo ubu barimo bararya pasika umwe yizeye undi ati ni byo, nahoze ngira ngo

/ . urambeshyantituzaca mu rukiko, none twahaeiye rero ubwo icyizere eyabaye cyose. Hum, ~J twararebanyedusanga dushobora kubana. Natwe rero turabîfudza kubana neza, kubana neza, ubwoababyeyi babo GATABAZIYozefu, RIBERAKURORA Yuvenali, barimo bareba i... barebyeibirorî by’abana babo, tubifurije rero y’uko mwanezerwa hanyuma noneho mukanywa akagwa,mugasoma ku kagwan’umunezero mwinshi, mwese rero muzagire Pasika nziza. Henga tubanzetubature umuziki mbere y’uko tureba iby’umutekano muriuyu mugi wa Kigali.

...ivugira hano i Kigali.Abatwumva mwese mwese, aho muri hose, aho muri hose ad muri Kigali

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 8 -Ngali,ad Gitarama,i Butare, Gikongoro, Cyangugu aho mwaramutse mute? Ku Kibuye,Gisenyi ahongaho? Hano hari amakuru yo ku Gisenyimfite n’inama zibera muri Méridien mu kanya ndabibagezaho,mwaramutse mute aho ngahomu Ruhengeri? Mukomere,mwaramute mute aho i Byumba? Mwaramutsemute aho i Kibungo?

Hanomu mujyirero muri Kigali y’umujyi ho umutekanomu by’ukxarintabwo ad mwiza,w’abantu kugiU cyabo, abantu bose baravuga bati "turaryama, turaryama adko ntabwo dusinzira", bati "’ni ukubonaumuntu aramuka adko umuntu ntavuga ati yenda buraeya nta kintu gituritse, nta sasu ringezehocyangwa se batansenyeye inzu". Ni akagarero! Ariko ibyo byose bikaba ari ingaruka z’intambaray’Inkotanyi, ikaba ad ing.arukazo kudashyirahoInzego z’Inzibacyuho yaguye ngo zijyehoumuntu amenye uwo ajya kuregera n’uwo aregaho. Ibyo rero byose, ako kaduruvayo ,°-r~,o, .-¯ r arikona nonekakaba ari ako kurwanira ubutegetsi muri rusange.

Madamu UWlLINGrYIMANAAgata rero, amereweate Madamu UWK,INGIYIMANAAgata, Ministrew’Intebe wa Guverinomay’ii.., wa Guverinoma yaheze mu cyuho?Madamu uwILINGIYIMANArero Agata na we afiteubwoba, aiïte ubwoba aravuga ati ntabwo nanjye, ntabwonsinzira nubwo ndizwe na MINUARn’ibîki, ntabwo nsizira, dore noneho asigaye yikanga ibyuma,asigaye yikanga ibyuma. Mu by’ukuriabumvise itangazo ryahise kuri Radiyo Rwanda, abantubarumiwe bavuga bati mwokagira Imana mwe, se hein!Ikintu ey’icyuma bataranakora na enquëtengo bamenye ieyo cyarikigenewe n’icyo kigomba gukora, barahita batangaza kuri Radiyo ngobafashe icyuma! Hum! Iyo baza kubona imbunda se bwo,um°untu ko muriiki gihe ma wamenyauko bigenda, ibyo ad byobyose iyo umuntu

19.0 atumiwemu birobya MadamuUWILINGIYIMANA Agata, iyo ahavuyearataha cyangwa se akabayanatinda no mu kabad,birumvikana rero y’uko abadafite uburyo bwo kubona MINUAR zitugendainyuma n’Ababiligi n’iki, nk’aho twabaye Fabiola! Twebwe rero tugenda umuntu yihagazehoafite nk’agahiri, afite nk’agahoro, afite mbese akandi kantu kose yakwirengeza mu giheeyane cyane aba azi ko ashakwa.

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Ejobundire... ejo rêro umugabo MISAGO uba mu... mu ishyaka, ukomeye mw’ishyaka CDR bari bagiranye..,bagombaga kugirana inama na MadameUWILINGIYIMANA, hum, Agata nk’uko yabisobanuye,bagombaga kugira... RUTEGESHA rero yagombaga kugira inama ha Madamu UWILINGIYIMANAAgata kugira ngo barebe, basuzume ikibazo cy’ishyaka CD1L Madamu UWlLINGIYIMANAAgata yahejeje mu gihirahiro.Noneho avuye ahantu afata akuma ke, ni uko agashyiraahantu mu isakoshi, abaaragiye. Hanyuma noneho abantu rero ba... kubera ko umuntu itekawakoze icyaha, umuntu iteka wakoze ieyaha ufite i... ukuntu yumva mu mutima hameze nyinehari icyo hamu.., hamukaragata, nomu mutwe hamukaragata, nyineiteka aba avuga ati abantuee... bazamerera nabi, ni uko noneho bati "hinga turebe mu isakoshi. Nanone gutumira umuntuw’umunyacyubahiro ukabanza, kumukuramo inkweto, ukabanza ku mu...ku... ku... kurebaicyo yambariyeho nabyo nta cyizere kirimo, kuko ndakeka ko naMadame UWILINGIYIMANAAgata agiye ahantu bakabimukora ndumva ata.., atakumva yishimye.

Niuko rero umunyacyubahiro waCDR baba baramusatse, ibintu byose babiterera hanze, bati "aaah!Tubonye ieyuma", bati "nta kundi", ibintu biracitse, "eyari ieyo gutera Madame UWlLINGIYIMANAAgata", ibintu birakomeye, ni uko.

Ndakekay’uko rero ubwo buryo bwo gukomeza gushakashaka uburyo bwose ee... mu gihe MadameUWILINGIYIMANA Agata yari amaze kuvuga ngo CDtL ngo "ni ishyaka rya ryatsembatsembye",akongera akabisubiramo kuriRadiyo Rwanda, ibyo rero byatumye nta gihamyanta ki, byatumye nyine akomeza gushakisha uburyo bwose yakwima CDR umwanya wayomu NtekoIshinga Amategeko, eyane cyane agira ngo avuge ati koko CDR ni abicanyidore ! nabafatanyeibyuma, dore byagenze gutya na gutya, n’ibikî byose.

Ubworero ndakeka y’uko guteza kujya kuvuza iya BAHANDA ngo ubonye.., ngo ubonye ieyuma,hum ! Ntabwoari n’icyuma automatique kisimbukisha, ntaki, ngo ni igitangaza ngokuba kibonanyweumuntu wa CDR, ngo ubwo ni akaga.None se iyoaza kuva mu biro,ibyo ari byo byoseyari kugenda mu muhandanta MINUAR bafite ibaherekeza, ma bajandarume birirwa birukankainyuma y’abantu nkaho bo atariAbanyarwanda, ubworero urumva ko we yari

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 10 ~~ 02’î 097~ 21.6 kwitabazaako kuma ke eyangwase akagahatishan’amaeunga aho yari kugera agira ngo ee... ibyo ailbyo byose ibyo nta kintu mbona njye ku girl¢yanjye byari bikomeyeho kuko icyuma... ¢yangwa muriiki ~he ibyari byo byos¢ umuntu agendana akantu. Ntabwo rero bagutumiye ku buryo bwihutirwaako kantu wakajyana ukakereka abantu, aah, n’abaturage bajya bagendana n’umuhoro kumanwa ariko akazifikaho icyatsi, umenya ad uko hari hatari hazifitseho.., hatari haziritseho nk’ikireremu bugiahari ni cyo ¢yateyeubwoba abakozi ba MadameUWILINGIYIMANA Agata na MadameUWILINGIYIMANA Agata ubwe, adko reromufi ibi bihenta wuyobeweko umuntu yitwazaakanm, ntabwo rero umuntu ubonanye akantu wese, uretse n’icyuma hari n’abantu bi... bafiteimbunda, ntabwo rero wahita u .vugango hoo ngo ubwo mubonanye imbunda ngo yari aie kundasa.Reka da! Ni akoumuntu agenda areba ko byibuzen’uwamwi¢a yapfakumukomeretsaho iïi:ï~gato,ariko yenda ahari bakazakurildrana ubusembwa, dore ko enquêtebavuga ngo nta cyo zifata, ntald, ariko umuntu wamukomerekeje byibuze abantu bavuga bail dote amaraso, basi ugapfa arikobakazakurikirana uwomuntu.

Mu y’ukurirero muri iki gihe nta.., ntibagakabye, ntawukigenda imboko mboko. Ubwo rero kubonaumuntu afite icyuma kuko yakijyanye ngo muri Primature si igitangaza,ushobora kukijyanauti dore icyuma mukibike aho hirya hanyuma njye kubonana n’uwo tubonana, nyuma munsubizeieyuma cyanjye aho nyura yenda hari amabandi hanyuma noneho icyo eyuma nkijyane.

Mu by’ukurirero biriya bintu byo guhita ukora amatangazo ugashyira kuri Radiyo Rwanda nta enquëte,ibyo buriya bigamije kirumvikana ni ukugira ngo CDR bakomeze bayisige ieyaha, ni muri urworwego Nyakwigendera KATUMBA yapfuye abantu birutse mu isokobati "CDR irimo irambara",abantu bamwe bagata ibyabo, amatagisi ntakore ni muriurwo rwego ndetse n’abantu bisheIC4~TUMBA, kuko baravugaga bati uriya Musederi ukomeye abantu bazi, urubyimko ruzi muBasederi, n’apfa ma kundibarahita bajya mu mihandaabantu ba... ba... bagidrwe nabi noneho bavugebati, voilà, dore rya shyaka CDR ma... nta kuntu rishobora kujya mu... mu Nzego z’Inzibacyuhoyaguye. Ndakeka y’uko amayeri y’abantu iteka abantu barayavumbura, ntihakagire umuntuukeka y’uko ari we uziubwenge kurusha abandi.

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Gusaigiteye isoni, ni ukubonanko mu... mu buyobozibukuru nka buriya, ahantu hahagarariye igîhugunka hariya, mu... nko.., ahantu rwose ha, ri Ministre w’Intebe hava itangazo nka ririya ryo kuvugango babonye icyumaf Icyuma iki cyuma gisanzwe7 Hum! Ntabwo ari n’icyuma gifite écran d’arrët,ntabwo ad icyuma gifite iki, icyuma gisanzwe iki batemesha ii....

24.3 batemeshaibintu ngo ba... ngo ibintu byacitse, nyamara yashoboraga nokuhajya afite imbunda akayerekaabakozi b’a.., b’Agata ati dore ibyo mfite, mumbildre ibi bîntu hano. Agata rero nti yari kuvugango aaah, ngo mbonye imbunda ngo ibintu birakomeye, ngo iki.

¯.:-...-’ Abobantu rero iteka bafite ee..’ conscience chargée, ni ukobagomba kuba bafite ikimu na bo bikekako babazizaatad ukubera imyanya gusa, ariko cyane cyane birimwo ibinm by’ubugambanyi.

Uwitwarero KAVARUGANDAYozefu ee... Président w’Umkiko Rusesa Imanza na we atangiyekugira ubwoba bw’ubugambanyi bwe. Huml Abagambanyi ni cyo cyabahima,bajye bahoranaubwoba kuko baba bagambaniyerubanda. KAVARUG,~A Yozefu rero mw’Isibo ijanana... makumyabiri nagatandatu yasohotse ejo, yasohotse ejo, arashyiramo ibaruwa yandikiye Présidentwa Repubulika,Président wa Repubulikaee... n’ubwoba bwinshi ngo had abanm bashakakumwîca. KAVARUGANDA birumvikana nyuma y’aho ageragereje gu... gukora coup

" "1 d’étatconstitutionnel bikamunanira hein, bimmvikana yuko arimo yibaza ati ibintu bimeze bite ? Doteitadki makumyabiri n’esham iyo baruwa ni bwoyayanditse, ateza ubwega ngo "abakozi bo muriPrésidence" ngo "bagiye kumwica". Yee, ku nomeroya rnberekuri iyo baruwa, aravuga ngo "itarikicurni n’icyenda z’ukwa gatatu mirongo icyenda na kane,ngo "hari umuntu waje hafi y’ibirobye", ngo "abwira abamurinda" atiko mufi..,ee... ngo.., noneho abwira abamu...abarinda ngo KAVARUGANDAngo aramubwirango ati. ati "ko mufinzeInyenzi KAVARUGANDA kandi"ngo "abazamwicabarateguwe". Ni mwumvenawe ibya KAVARUGANDA!Abantu bajya kumwicabakabanza kujya kubwira abamurinda?

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 12 Icyakabiri rero na ho,hari aho avuga ngo "ku itadki makumyabifi na kabiri z’ukwa gatatu mirongoicyenda na kane", ngo "saa mbiri n’igice" ngo «babajije umukozi we" ngo "niba KAVARUGANDA"ngo "yitwaye",ngo "yasohotseyitwaye" ngo "cyangwaatitwaye". Ngo «nonehoumukozi ashubije ko atabizi"ngo "abajandarume" ngo"bahitamo kujya kwinywera" ngo "akayoga"ngo "mu kabad kad hafi aho". HeinY Mu by’ukurirero sinzi y’uko ce... aho rero ngo arabazaPrésident wa Repubulikango ayo matsiko ngo y’abo bajandarume ni e... ni ayîki.Nkaho Présidentwa Repubulikaad we watumyeabo bajandarume.Ariko KAVARUGANDA na we (aseka)ni umutiw’amenyoT Kubera umushiha sinzi ko KAVARUGANDAahari agira n’umushoferi.

Icyagatatu, ngo ku itadki ya mbereze... ngo.., ngo ku wambere itariki makumyabiri n’imwe z’ukwagatatu mirongo cyenda ha kanengo saa kumi n’imwe n’igice, ngo abasirikare babiri mu barinda"Prezida" ngo bagiye.., ce... ngo bagiye hafi y’urukiko rwe, KARAVUGANDA Urukiko RusesaImanza yarugize urwe, nta n’ubwoikiri n’inzu ya Leta,noneho KAVARUGANDA yongeramongo"heureusement queje venaisde quitterles bureaux avec ma garde".Ngo noneho reroabo ba... abo basirikare, abajepe ba... barinda Présidence ngo bazenguruka Cour de cassation

26.9 ngononeho ngo umunyezamu avamo, ngo umwe ngo ahita yigira.., yi... yegera e... ngo.., ngo ahitayegera ngo umwe muri abo basirikare, ngo noneho ngo uwo musirikare, uwo mujepe ngo ahitayigira ngo ku i... ngo yisubirira kuizamu kuri Présidence. Ngonone ngo Président ngo ibyo niiki ? (tire)

Hah!(Aseka) KAVARUGANDA na nonearasetsa! Ngo bazengurutseUrukiko nijoro, ngo bambayeuniforme. Ubwo se bagirango bamwicenijoro? Ko amadosiyeKAVARUGANDA akiza n’ayoazambya aba yabirangije kare yigiriye gusura amazu ye menshiyubakisha hano mu mujyi hiryano hino!Ko akoreramu nzuse publiqueubundi inzu ya rubanda,uwayizenguruka ku manywa,KAVARUGANDA yamutwara iki ? Keretserero niba koko yarahahinduye iwe doreko

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ahamazeigihe kirekire yicara ku ntebengo z’UmwamiRUDAHIGWA.

Ku eyakane rero. Aho yubaka ku Kimihururaya gatatu, ngo nta musirikare ugomba kunyura hafi yaho.Ngo kuko hari uwahayuze ngo.., ngo aganiriza abakozi be, ngo rwose ngo iryo ni ishyano, ngoni ikosa agomba kugeza kuri Président.

Ku ngingoya gatanuy’ibaruwa ya KAVARUGANDA,ngo igiheabayoboke b’ishyaka CDR bafungagakuri makumyabiri ha ka... ee... bajyaga kuri makumyab{ri na rimwe z’ukwa kabiri mirongocyenda na kanebagiye gufunga M1NAFFET baka impapuro zo gusinya,ngo abayoboke ba CDR ngo bibyeamadosiye mu biro.bya KAVARUGANDA,ngo biban’agrafeuse. Aaah f Ni akumirofNagatangaye, ahubwo noneho ubwo yemeye ko impapuroza CDRakizifite mu birobye, hum,nazitange atazarinda no kuvuga ko bazibye.

Ku cya munanirero noneho ku ngingoya munaniKAVARUGANDA na nonehari aho ateza ubwegaavuga ngo.., a... araregera Président wa Repubulika umugabo kayendone.., e... kaye... KAYONDEEnoki ngo waba waramututse(tire) nkaho yamuregeye parquet. KAYONDE Enoki rerorero twari..,naramwegereye ndavuga nti KAYONDEEnoki ko KAVARUGANDAamu... akuregako wamuteye..,ko... ko wamutunzeurutoki, nti byagenze gute? Ati "mu by’ukuri igihe nibuka"ati "ni uko nari mvuye muri Ministère ya Finances,noneho tumanuka mu modokanereka umuntutwari kumwe mu modokamvuga nti kanokazu gatoyaI~~,VARUGANDA akoreramo uwahaguraakahubaka inzu nini ingana n’iya Finances, noneho" ati ’hawo twari kumwe arambwira"ati "ariko wagura na Ministèrey’Ubuhinzi n’Ubworozi hepfo, ikorera hepfo y’aho" ati"kugira ngo uhagire parking". Ati "ngibyo ibintu twavuze, ariko KAVARUGANDA yahise abifata"ngo ee... ngo "" ngo"zirashaka kumwica".

Murimake rero, ibaruwa ya KAVARUGANDAYozefu yanditse mu gihutu,ni ko akunda kubyivugira,ni uko akunda kubyivugira, ni iyo guteza ubwega gusa bitewe n’ubwoba.

MUGENZIYusitini Président w’ishyaka PL yavuze..,yavugiye kuri Stade régional i Nyamirambo

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ko "abagambaniraRepubulika bazabona,

29.8 ishyano".Ishyano rero si ugupfahari no guhoraufite ubwoba nk’ubwa KAVARUGANDA na Madamu UWlLINGIYIMANAAgata.

Umutekanosi mukekuri ibyo bikomerezwa gusa. Umutekano ni mukeno ku bantubasanzwe cyanecyane noneho dore byageze no mu banyamakum.Muri selile Nyakabanda ee... selile NyakabandaKomine Kicukiro, Préfceture y’Umugi wa Kigali,kwa wa munyamakumThomasi ka... KABONABAKE...

.~...

( FIN DE LA FACEA ).

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K02!.»" 0çoT~ Orateur:HABIM A Kantano. ...teye, bahateye grenades ebyeri, imwe ntiyaturika indiiraturika ikomeretsa abantu benshi. Ikomeretsaabantu benshi eee.., hanyuma iby’Imana ee... KABONABAKE wari muri.., mu kaba... muriako kabari ke aza ku... kurusimbuka, aryama hasi noneho ibintu byagombaga kumukomeretsabimunyura hejuru noneho ahaguruka ail muzima, yaranacumbagiraga ahubwo yaranavunitsehambere aha, iyo yongera noneho ku... iyo hajyamo éclats byari birangiye. Niuko reroabo babisha bahise biruka, bari ku modoka itagira plaques ariko isa neza neza n’iyateye grenadeuwo Conseiller waSegiteri Gitega.

Ibyoail byo byose KAVARUGANDA ku itariki ya makumyabirina gatatu z’ukwa gatatu mirongocyenda na kane, yari yaragejeje itangazo kuri Radiyo RTLM (arakoroye) uhum Mumbabarire,icyogihe yavugaga y’uko abashaka .... (arakoroye) abashaka kumwica yabamenyekandi ko ail bamwe mu baturanyibe bafatanyije na caporal, murumuna wakagi.., wa NyakwigenderaSergent-major MUNYEMPAZI, bati mu... ati "rero muri abo ngabo" ati "rwose hariuwitwa MULIH/RA, Bwana MULIH akaba ayobora CCDFP y’i Remera ku Kacyim"ati ku buryo..."ku buryo yatse n’amafaranga nakoyagiye gukoresha imodoka abeshya abeshya yaka abantuamafaranga ngoagiye gukoresha imodoka A mirongo irindwi n’icyenda mirongo ine ha gatanuya CCDFP, ariko atari yo agiye gukoresha ahubwo ashi.., yishakira "amafranga" yokugira ngoabone ayo guhemba abazagandagura KABONABAKE".

Hanyumaikintu na nonemu itangazoyaravugaga ati "ibyo ad byo byose, maze kumenya y’uko mazegutanga itangazo kuri RTLM Bwana mulihi... MULIHIRA, yatelefonye Depite KABAGENIVenansiya, Dirieabinet... atelefona Diricabinet wa Landowitwa MUGIRA Visenti,atelefona KAYIRANGA Ezira, atdefona KALINGANE utwara imodoka ya UNICEFha MUDENGEutwara MULIHIRA, ababaza uko abyifatamo kubera umugambi wabo wari umaze gutahurwa.Ibyo bamushubije ngontiyabimenye neza. Ikindi ni uko uretse abo ngabo nyine ce... yariyavuze mu itangazo ryo kuri makumyabiri nagatatu z’ukwa gatatu mirongo cyenda na kane, hiyongeragahon’"abajenese" ba...ba Parti libéral harimwo uwitwa hussei... Hussein umye i Kanombe,hafimwo RWABUHUNGU, harimo Claude utuye hafi ya SGPi Remeramuri

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 16 ~~02~~ Nyakabanda,na NGIRUNKUNDAukora muri Hôtelya Lando.

Hanyumarcro ce... yadusabaga y’uko twakwarnagana abo bantu bacura imigambi yo kumena amarasoy’inzirakarengane. Kandinone koko ejobundi ni ko byagenze.Ibyo ad byobyose KABONABAKEwe yaravugagaati "ibuye ryamenyekanye ntiriba rikishe isuka". Ati" KABONABAKEn’abc bose ha bo bakomejekuba maso ijoro n’amanywa". Ni ukongeraha none kubamaso kuko umwanzi ntahuga, umwanzi ntahuga, ee... we KABONABAKEyaravugaga ati "ibyoad byo byoscMULIHIRA Eugène uyobora CCDFP i Remeraukomoka i Gashora,afatanije n’Inkotanyizisigaye zisohoka muri C... CND zambaye civil, hum, zikomeje kugandura.., e... kugandagumKABONABAKE ati "abobose ni bo nzabanzize".

’.:ïï 4.8 Birumvikanarero abantu bakora imigambi yo kugambanano kumenaamaraso abo bantu ndakeka yukobashatse uwo mugambi bawureka kuko ndakeka y’uko na bo ibyoail byo byose bava

amaraso.

Undirero na noneuvuza induru, undi utabaza ni umugabowitwa B[KINDI Simoni. BIKINDI Simonirero na we agezehano avuga ati "Kantano ntabwo ndabona ibintu bikomeye, ibintu bikomeyekubera ko hadabantu ibyo ad byobyose bashaka kumpitana. Icyo banshakaho sinkizi, ndifirimbirantamuntu nigeze ngira icyo ntwara, n’ibyo ndifimba nta wubikunda adko had ababikunda,ibyo ad byobyose njyewe dore uko ibintu nabibonye". Ail umugabo... "umugab0 w’igikara,umuga.., had umugabo w’igikara rwose umpiga afatanyije n’abandi bagabo babifi. Mu eyumwemgishize bakaba barafashe imodoka ya Pajerobakaza iwanjye bad kumwe n’abandi bantubatazwi, bail bagiye kureba iwanjye ngo barebe aho ad ho".Ati «ndetse n’ejo ku wa gatanu bakoreyeinama hano mu mujyiyo kuzuzau... uwo mugambi wo kumpitana".Ati "rero njyewe BIKINDIndasaba uwo mugabokureka uwo mugambimubisha kuko muzi, kandi nkaba ntacyo mpfan’uwo mugabo n’abo bandi bafatanyije. Nimumpe amahoro rero nk’uko nanjye nyabifuriza". Hum,ati "ibyo ail byo byose, nibiba ngombwa nzamutangaza kuko afite ibimenyetso si... mfite ibimenyetsosimusiga yahawe n’uwo mu bo bailbafatanyije ariko ubu bakaba baratandukanye.

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AhaYNimwumve namwe rwose ! Mwumvenamwe imigambi mibisha abantu bakorera abandi, abantubakorera abandi, rwose ubu ngubu ni akumiro!

Hari umugaborero witwaKAPALATA, KAPALATA akaba atuye ku Kimicanga,akaba ad Interahamwewe aravuga rero ati "rwose" ati "abantu bariga bikomeye uko bazangandagura uretseko byababereyeikibazo. Ndagira ngo abo bantu ubambwirire uyu mugani y’uko agati kashinzwen’Imana nta wugahungabanya. Ariko noneho wongereho uti bazikoraho ni imbwaya Ntare".Ba... ngo "bahisemo kuzantegera mu misa eyangwa se ngomvuye mu misadorê ko :»%. numvamisa chaque jour chez les pères Salésiens. Kandi abo bantu ndabazi, n’abafite abazamu ba nijorob’Inkotanyi tumaze kubamenya". Hum ! Rwoseee... rero njyewe KAPALATA, umunsi r..’-r~. -.::2,« bangandaguye..,abangandaguye n~abazi".

Abobantu rero bashaka kuzana ingeso yo guhoramu bantu,ndakeka y’uko ad akumirof Ni nk’uyumuntu na we umbwiraati "mu by’ukuri Isibo, Isibo wagira ngo ni yo ikoraumugambi wo kwieaabantu". Ati "Gapyisi ajya gupfa mu Isibobyaravuzwe ko azapfa".Ati "MUTOMBO ajya gupfani kobyagenze". Ati "Léonie ajya gupfa ni kobyagenze, Isibo yarabanje iramwikoma". Ati "KAPALATAajya gupfa" ati "Isibona yo yaramwikomye",

8.0 ati"hinga nkwereke, reba mu Isibonimero ijana na makumyabirina gatatu urebe ku urupapuro rwama... rwa gatanu". Ati "ku byerekeye imyigaragambyo yabaye mu giheMDR TWAGIRAMUNGUyagira ngo ikoreshemeeting ubwo TWAGIRAMUNGUFawusitini yagira ngoakoreshe meeting hariya i Nyamirambo".Ati"dore Sixbert arandika ngo "iyo witegereje abo bagomeb’abicanyi uhereye no ku bo umuntuasanzwe azi, ntiyabura gutunga agatoki MRND n’Interahamwehamwe na CDR,ibyo ndabivuga mpereye ku Nterahamwezikomeye zari zihad. Nka KATUMBAw’"umuseded"yad ayoboye agatsiko kayogoje Gitega. Uwiyita MUK~GO wo mu kazu,ni we wad wafunzeumuhanda wa Kimisagaran’agatsiko ke MinistreNZABONIMANA Klisitiyarimo acicikana areba uko abahungu be bahagaze".Hein! "Interahamwe Hamuli

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KAREKEZIni we wad kumwena ba mayibobobateraga amabuye hafi y’umusigiti wo kwa KADHAFI.Abo banabatundwaga ha tagisiya HAKIZIMFURAZubefi ha ho Ali KITONSA abashakiraamabuye". Bati "rero abantu bose Isibo yagiye itunga agatoki barapfa’. Ati "rero nanjye,nanjye wanditse aha sinivuze adko rero ndamutse ngize icyo mbaye bikabazwa Isibo kuko abantubose itunze agatoki turabona nta we ubaho".

Ibyorero na nonemurabona y’uko ad akaga,abantu bafite ubwoba. Abantu bafite ubwoba nk’uyu mugaboha we w’umunyamakuruwitwa RWEMARIKAFrederiko, RWEMARIKA Frederiko akabaail umukozi ukora muri Télévision. Yandikiye Préfet wa Kigaliîtadki ya makumyabiri n’im..,n’icyenda z’ukwa gatatu mirongo icyenda ha kane,avuga ati "nyabuneka Bwana Préfet ni nimuntabarenjyewe biranyobeye". Ati«dore abantu biyite.., biyise Abadahusha, Abadahusha ha r...’i- : } ..,.j Rwanda...ba Rwandalocal, Abadahusha ha Rwandalocal", ati "nawe dote ibaruwa banyandildye".Ati "BwanaRWEMARIKA Frederiko n’uwo tubana witwa TWAGIRAYEZU Inosentiukora muri MINICOMART’, ati"dore ibaruwa batwandikiye". Atiiki.., ubwo rero ni abongabo ha... bishyize ngo mu kantubita "Abadahusha Rwanda local", dote uko banditse’. "Ikiduteyekubandikira ni iki : kubonaigihe mwakoreye, murya "amafaranga" mwenyine, andi mukabamuyasangira n’Abatutsi mubera mu bipango,ha ha benewanyu.., naho bene SEBAHINZI tumerewenabi. Akaba ad zo mpamvurero tubandikiye mwembi, turabizi mufite umutungo uhagije,wowe TWAGIRAYEZU twamenye ko wariugiye kugura moto y’ama.., y’ibihumbi maganaatanu, RWE ARIKnawe wad ugiyekugura tagisi yakoze. Ni yo mpamvurero tubategujeko... ko... kuko mraturanye kandi tuzi neza ko ad,TWAGIRAYEZU azad...

, 4. turabasabako twagira..,nako dutegetse ko TWAGIRAYEZUadushakira ibihumbi magana abiri, RWEMARIKAakadushakira ibihumbi magana atatu mirongo itanu, niba mukunda amahoro tuzasangeahad, niba mwiyanga tuzayabure, kandi ni... kandi".., hum! Yee bati tuzayabone"

11.3 bati"rero uwo mutetomwirirwa muteta ngo mwaramugaye ntabwo muzi abamugaye aho bari. Muracuruzaamazahabu, za missionsmu mahanganone ngo muri ibimuga. Tuzasange ayo masezeranoyuzuye, tuzaza itadki itazwi neza, umunsi utazwi neza, hera none ubara iminsi 15

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gusa.Wandikiwe n’ibirara bihinda.., bi... bihi.., bihinda ? Abadahusha baRwanda local". Basinyahoumusaraba. Bon. Nimwumve namwe.

Nizereyuko kuva ku itarikiya eumina gatanu ntabwo umenya ahari itariki itaragera, twizere y’ukoabo bantu bazabata muri y0mbi hanyuma bikarangira ndetse n’abantu baneka..., ariko manekozagiye he ? Manekozagiye he ratAbantu bakaneka bakareba abantu bibumbiye muri kariyagatsiko k’Abadahusha aboail ho abobantu bakabafata bakabamerera nabi.

HAKIZIMANAnta ho rerobatarira nta ho batarira,ahantu hose hirya no hinobarataka, hîrya no hinobarataka. Nta ho batadra,nta ho batarira kuko Responsable, Responsable wa... wa segi... hum7 Ntahobatafira, dote n’uyu mugabo HAK!ZIMANA MAKAMBO Léopold wo muri Selile f,~-, Buremera,Segiteri Nanga, Komine Karago ha we arariraaravuga ati "rwose muntabare munkize uyumuntu uyu muntuwitwa KANYOVE hum, ati "atuye imbere y’iwanjye, aranyibasiye amshaka kunyiEaanziza umutungo mfite, ndetse ngo sinatuye mud bene wacu. Ku itarikimakumyabiri n’enyez’ukwa gatatu mirongo icyenda na kane,yari angandaguye mukizwa n’abaturage, ansanze kwa BERUYEEmmanuel nimugoroba dufata agatama. Rwose ni akumironjyewe ndagowe ntabwombona uyu mugabo icyo anshakaho". None se kokouyu muntu aramushakaho iki ?

Undimuntu na we arambwiraati "rwose ntabwo byumvikana mumbarize segi.., muri Segiterî Kimihururae... Responsable GATABAZI uri mu Rugando,hepfo y’amashuli, ati "umugore we ejobundiyagabye igitero, bakubita umugore witwa MUKARULINDA n’agahinja karimo gakambakambahafi ye, arwaye". Ati "rwose se umugorewa GATABAZI,ko ariwe twarituzi ko ailResponsable, none umugore we se ni we umutwayeumwanya" ? Hum!(Arimyoje) uru Rwandarw’abagore ni akumiro.

Indayaz’i Matimba na zo zirariraziti "umutekano waeu ni muke.Hari abasirikare baza nimugorobani uko wajya kubona ukabona arahennye simoku, akwigije ku... ku rubaraza,hum" ! Wavugauti ahubwo se ndeberan’ay’amakara, akagufata ku munwani uko,ubwo ni ukoukaba ee...urumiwe". Atirwose ibi bintu ni ibîki"?

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Arikorero abo basirikare bakora ibyo, mbibutse y’uko kufata umuntu ku ngufu nubwo yaba ail indaya,hum, indaya ifite umubiri wayo yicungaho, ikaba yawucumza cyangwa se ikawuha uwo isha...e..,uwoishaka, kuyi.., kuyifata rero ukayigundira mutumvikanye, ibyobintu bishobora kubaviramoibyaha bikomeye, indaya iba ifite ukuntu yi... yishakashakira udufaranga ntabwo rero ibaishaka y’uko hari uwayi.., hari uwayihutaza.

14.7 Hengamukurangiza, mbaze abarara amarondo mu Nyakabanda.Umugabo witwa KAYIBANDA twahuyearambwira ati "rwose abantu barara amarondo mu Nyakabanda bamereye nabi. Baraye bantwayeamafranga magana abiri",:ati "uwitwa FUPI n’uwitwa KOLIMBA ni bo bayajyanye.Ko i ndiumukarani, utwo dufaranga nkaba nari ndukoreye ngiye kuturarira, ubungubu rwose ndamera

rite"?

Mazerero abantu bafite umugambi wo kwicaabandi, bafite umugambi wo kumenaamaraso, abo . bosehinga mbature iyi ndirimbo. (Aritsamuye).

...mwese mukomere. Ubu ni umwanyawo kubagezahoubutumwa bwanyu, ni umwanyawo kubagezahoubutumwa bwanyu nyuma yo kubagezahobiriya byerekeranye n’umutekano muke uri muriuyu mujyi .... aatatu, sas tatu n’iminota mirongo itatu n’itanu, saatatu n’iminota mirongo itatun’itanu muri situdiyo zaRadiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira hano i Kigali,mukanya nyuma y’akazikigato, nyuma y’akaziki gatoya, nyuma y’akaziki gatoya technicien azakudushyiriraho, ubwomu kanyanyine, mu ka... turumva akaziki technicien adushyiriraho hanyuma mbakomereze amatangazoyo kurangisha. Hinga twumve umuziki.

Orateur"BEMER/KI Valérie, de la RTLM. ...rushanwa rya Kangura rigeze mu cyiciro eya kabiri. (Fond sonore) Ubu ibihembo biriyongera ubutitsa.Abanyenganda n’abikorera kugirl cyabo baduhaye byinshi mu byo tuzabahemba. NimugureKangura nimero mirongo itanu n’ieyenda mutwoherereze urupapuro musangamo

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rurihoibibazo muzaba mwasubije. Nimutubwire n’ieyo mutekereza ku banyamakuru ba RTLM, mubaheamanota mukurikije uko mubumva. Banyeshuli bari mu biruhuko ntimucikwe, kugim ngo irushanwaryanyu ryemerwe mugomba kutwoherereza impapuro eshatu zifatanye byavuye muri Kanguranimero mirongo itanu n’umunani, Kangura nimero mirongo itanu n’icyenda na Kangura nimeromirongo itandatu. (Musique).

Orateur"HABIMANA Kantano, ...abumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM, abakunzi ba Radiyoyigenga RTLM mukomere, mwese mwese ahomuri hose turabi~riza umunsi mwi.., week end nziza, turabifuriza Pasika nziza, mwese mweseaho mur5 hose mukomere mukomere turabifuriza amahoro n’ amahirwe.

Hanyumarero hinga nkomeze n’amatangazo yanyu, hinga nkomeze n’amatangazo yanyu. Nari nagiyekumva amakuru anyuranye, amakuru anyuranye ariko iteye ubwoba ni uko...,hum! Umunyamakuruwacu NKOMATI Emmanuel ejo, umunyamakuru waeu NKOMATI Emmanuel ejoabantu baramuteze, baramuteze hanyuma agira Imana sinzi ukuntu Imana yamuvugiyemo ntiyataha,ntiyataha, hum, yirarira kukazi hanyuma noneho abantu baramutega noneho

17.8 sinziumuntu waje kugwa muri icyo gico, ubwo baramureba bati ai... bati ntabwo.., bamutunga arnasitimuuwomuntu, ni uko baramugan.., baramugu.., baragi.., baramufata mbese barareba hose nonehobarangije bati "si we", ni uko baramureka aringendera ahantu atuye hari i Gikondo. Ndakekarero y’uko ibi bintu by’umutekano mukeutangiye mubanyamakuru hehe hose, sinzi icyo @ uzasiga.

Hengambagezeho amatangazo yanyu noye... (inaudible) hanyuma hari n’utundi ee... utw’Inkotanyiyee,ku Gisenyi, hanyuma hari n’utundi twerekeye ishyaka CDR ryakoresheje ikiganirombwirwa banyamakuru, hanyuma ndabasomeramo ingingo imwe, imwe gusa, imwe gusa y’ibikubiyemuriiryo tangazo, itangazo bashyize ahagaragara.

Cassetten* 0190transcrite par OL 22 Arikohagati aho hinga, heh, umuntu witwa emmanue.., umuntu witwa Emmanuel aranshekeje mu kanya,arambwiye ati "rwose ejo ntabwo nafinzi ko ailumwarïya wo Imbeshya,hanyuma umuntu arabeshyarwose adko ambeshya ibintu azi ko bimbabaza,ambeshya ibintu byerekeye Rayon Sport". Ati"yarambwiye" ati"urabizi manue... EmmanueI », ati"ya modoka ee... Président wa Repubulikayemereye Rayon Sport", ati "bagiye kuyifata", ati "bagiye kuyifata ati "noneho Inkotanyizigira ngo Président ee... admwo arumvamwo umunyenga aherekeje abakinnyi ati "harimona komite"(tire) ati "hafimo na Kantano", ati "tri uko ngo bayitega eya bombe". Ati "yamazekumbwira gutyo mpita nirukanka njya kuryama’" ati "kubera agahinda n’l.., n’ibintu byose",ati "none" ati "rwose" ati "ubu ni bwonkivu.., nkibyuka naraye ndose nabi" ati "mu gitondoni ho yajekumbwira ko yambeshyaga".Ati"kandi naraye nabi", (admyoje) ati ndumiweT Atiad [... muzabwire rwose ababeshya bajye babeshya ibintu bifatika", ati "be kujya babeshya i ibintubi... bi¢a intege bigakura umutima".

HumF Ati"noneho rero rwose mukugira ngo bimpoze ako gahinda kose nararanye", ati "nsuhurizaMUSONI Jean-Baptiste uriku Kicukiroakaba yitwa TIGANA, ati unsuhurize RuTAZIHANAAnastase wo muriKanto ya Nyanza",hum, ati "no kubera na... kurara nabi" ati "rwoseha rendez-vouswari u... twari dufitanye yapfuye". Ati "MUKAYIRERE Mariya ha muga...MUGANWA, MUGANWA di... Dismase nako Diyonizi uri i Kigoma, TWAGIRAMUNGUEric ee... ukora kwa RYANGOMBEi Nyamirambo,hanyuma n’IYAMUREMYEYasoni uri.., i Gatagara.(Rire)

Emmanuelrero ni ukujyaumenya itadki ya mbereyo kubeshya,ubundi yavuye i Burayinaba ad mu Burayihehe, abantu bamwe babifata gutyo, barababeshya nyine bikomeye. (Arimyoje). Ubwo reroubutaha mimuzajye mwishinga ibyo binyoma.

Mukomejekumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira i Kigali,mu kanyaturareba aya makuru yo ku Gisenyihanyuma turebe kuri iyi week-end, hari abajya kubyina muri za boom,ariko kandi ntimwibagirweko hari n’imipira, hari n’imipira, iteganyijwe mukanya turayivugaho turebe uko imeze.(Un peu de musique).

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...ati "umenya zigiye ku... kutugandagura ntawabimenya", ati fils BISENGIMANA wari ueumbitsemuri H6tel IzubaMéridien, appartement.., yariafite appartement yose magma atatu na cumina gatandatu,magana atatu ha eumin’umunani tariki ya makumyabirin’icyenda z’ukwa gatatu,ni ejobundi,yatelefonye bene wabo baba mu Burundiababwira ko "umujyiwa Gisenyi bamazekuwugota, ahasigaye akaba ad ukwicaabatavuga rumwe na FPR".Hum! Nguko rero uko inkumce... iza. Ni ukononeho baravuga bati "Banyagisenyi rero", hum, "ni ukuryamira amajanja,kubera ko ubwongubwo mu migambikoko bashobora kuba bafite...". Hum, bati "cyakoraturasaba Directeur wa HôtelMéridien kutubwira, kutubwira yenda izo nama bakorera ahongaho ieyo ziba zigamije", hum, ati "’n’abakozi benshi afite ni abavuye muri Goma muri ".».j Zaïre",ati "ntabwo tuzi neza uko ibyo bintu bimeze".

Atina nonehari umuntu witwa Solange ukomoka i Bibwe muri Zaire, hein ati "ubu rero akoresha amanamay’ubutitsa afatanyije n’umugabo wigisha muri Saint Fidèle" ati "hano ama.., amanama akorerwa..,hnun.., ya... ati "akorerwa munzu iwe, ku buryo nimero za telefone zose", ati «z’Abahutubaturiye umujyi wa Gisenyizamaze kwandikwa", hum, ngo "na n’ubu izabuze zika... zikabazikibaririzwa". Hum!Ati "turabasaba kuba maso kuko agahishe mu nzuya Solangead injyanamuntu",ati "muramenyekandi mwitondere kariya gatsiko kagizwe na TABAROModeste, SEMUCYO,SEMUKA_NYA Jean-Matie Vianney, mka... RUKAZABIGUNDAna NZIGIYIMANAGilbert", hum, "kuko ku mugambiwabo watahuwe, ubundi ibuye ryamenyekanyentabwo ryica isuka".

Hanyumanoneho (tire) umugabo rero bita KILINGITI na we,umugabo bita KILINGITI na duhuriyehano hasi, ati "Kantano biratangaje kumva uvuga ko nashatsekwica KABONABAKE, ntindarengana soma ibyanditse, ati"rwose nkaba ntarica n’inkoko", ati "hanyuma se nibanshaka k~eaKABONABAKE nabanje nkiea abandashe, abandashe ubushize". Ati "cyakora rero" ati ’ïcyontahakana niuko ndi Inkotanyi", ati"ubundi se wagirango robe iki"? Hum! Ati "abantu barandashe,iki", ati "abo ngabo nka.., ni... nda.., nshatse kwica ni bo nakwiea, ati "ariko bose

Cassetten* 0190transcrite par OL 24 baraho",ati "Imana izabafashe". Ali"adko rwose mu bishekabona.., mu bashakakwica KABONABAKEati "rwosentabwo ndimo", ati "twahufiyeArusha turaganira gusa, nibereye hamwen’Inkotanyi" ati"ariko ntabwo twigeze.., nigeze mvuga na gatoy’uko namwica. Ati ubwo rcroabari mu wundimu... abad mu mugambini abandi’,ati "ntabwo ad KILINGITIuri muri uwo mugambi.

Afikose abantubad mu migambiyo kwicaabandi koko, ibintu rwose babiretse mwokagira Imana mwe,ubu ngubu ild gihugu cyacu abantu bitaga paradizo y’"AfTika" kigiye kuba noneho Sodoma ha GomoraTNi akumiro,ibi bintu rwose ni akagat

24.3 Abantubasenga, ejo muzasenge cyane kuri Pasika, musenge cyane, musengere abantu bafite umutimamubi, ail Inkotanyi zishaka kumara abo zitavuga rumwe kugira ngo zitegeke iki gihugu ku ngufu,ad abandibose bafite umutima wose wo kwihorera,abo bose rwose Imana izabafashe hanyumabareke gukora amahano.

Mukomejekumva Radiyo yigenga RTLM ivugira hano i Kigali,mu kanyasaa sita e... mu kanya saa..,saa mu kanyamu minota..,mu minota irindwi biraba bibaye saa sita, mu minota irindwi nako itandatubiraba bibaye saa sita. Ubwo rero saa sita ubundi ubusanzwe icyo mu ndaldba gishaka icyomu nkono,(tire) ni yo mpamvurero saa sita dufunga ibyuma byacu. Ariko rero batekerezakufi week-end, mbibutse y’uko had umupira, had umupira w’amaguru uhuza Kiyovu ha STIR,uhuza Kiyovu ha STIR,Kiyovu rero aho yatsindiwe mu i...mu irushanwa,Kiyovu aho yakatsindiwemu irushanwa ubu ngubu yatangiye kugira.., abantu baribaza esc Kiyovu iracyad ya yindi,yaracitsemo kabifi. Byagenze gute kuva aho Aloys asezereye ? Abantu rero bategereje kurebauko ibintu bimeze, hanyuma abandi bati "STIR esc mama iracyabaho? Amacenga yayo yagiyehe ? Bite?Bimeze bite ? Hum,KANAMUGIRE Aloys umenya ngo ad we "uyantrena", bigenzegute ? Ni uko,ugasanga nyine abantu bibaza, abantu bakunda umupira. Abantu rero bakundaumupira ntimucikwe kuri Stade Amahoro, kuri Stade Amahoro kuko ni ho ayomakipe yombie... STIR iza guhura na... na .... ce...ha... na KiyovuSport mu rwegorw’umupira witwa

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"Jobanround", Joban round rem ikaba yaramnganyijwe na... ikaba yarateguwe na "Parteners internationalna Joban Putras group". Hanyuma ifatanyije na FERWAFAkugira ngo bateze umupiraimbere, noneho bakora tournoi y’amaldpe umunani, ayo maldpe rero umunani hum, ayo makipeumunani azagenda ahura hanyuma noneho ku buryoéquipe izaba iya mbere izakina finale igatsindaizatwara mini-busi.., ya miliyoni eshatu n’ibihumbi magana atanu na makumyabiri. Abanturero batangiye kuvuga ngo ariko se aba..,aba Rayon sport rero ni bo bavugabati "rwose RayonSport ni twetuzayitwara", ati"hanyuma, ni uko", urasanga rero abantu biratana. Kugira ngorero mu by’ukuri e... ah! Ndabona ni équipes zo... na... do... kugira ngo abantu nyine beregukomezakwi.., kwiratanaho, hein! Birashoboka ko Rayon sport kuko muri iki gihe koko ari yo iriimbere ishobora kugitwara, ariko rero burya n’amakipe yo mu gihuguyinyaye mu isunzu, cyanecyane ko aritournoi imara akanya gato, buriya yagitwara da! Yagitwara gato ahubwo byatumana Rayonsport ha yo yikubitaagashyi ikamenya uko imeze. Ubu rero amakipe mato rwoseazagemgeze ku... guca agahigo, Rayon sport ye kubonaimodoka ebyiri zose, izatware inini ya Présidentwa Repubulikaariko noneho bayereke ko na yo bayirwaisataburenge.

27.4 Byatumayikubita agashyi na yononeho ikazamuka. Uzi nk’ubu nka Flash iyigaraguye, hein, yavugaiti eh, eh, eh niveau yaguye! Noneho bigatuma Arbitre nako Entraîneur avuga ati hah, hingandebe ukuntu byagenda.

Twebwerero kugi.., ku gipande ey’abafana, hinga tujye tureba iriya mipira buri munsi, nako uko yabayenoneho uko yabaye rero tuyirebe, noneho nitumara kuyireba dushakemo abakinnyi batatu, abakinyibatatu mu myanyaitatu abatsinda, abo hagati, n’abinyuma. Hanyuma noneho tuzashakemoumukinnyi wa mberekoko wa kabutindimu makipeyose, hanyuma mu... mu batsindaumukinnyi wakabiri mu ba...e.., nako umukinnyi umeze neza mu... muri distribution hagati,hanyuma n’umukinyi uri mu ba...na noneinyuma wugarira neza, noneho abo ngabo kuri opérationtuzakora RTLM na Jobanround e... nitumara kubona abayobora iryo.., iyo... abashyinzweiyo tournoi,hanyuma noneho muzajye mwandikira RTLM ubwo muyibwire umukinnyimwabonye umeze neza, hanyuma tuzateranye ku buryouzahe.., uzaba uwa mbere nako

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 26 uzagenda..,abazajya bahuriza ku mukinnyimwiza w’imbere. Tuzakora tombola, uzatomborwamo tumuheradiyo, hari abantu bavuga ko bazamuharadiyo. Uza... abazahufiza ku mukinnyi mwiza, ni ukonk’abantu igihumbi nibahuriza ku mukinnyimwiza wo hagatituzatomboza ha bwo dukuremoumwe hanyuma noneho na we aboneradiyo. Uzah... abazahufiza ku mukinnyimwiza w’inyumawugadra neza, na bo ubwongubwo tuzahuriza.., tuza.., na nonetwongere tumuhurizehoa... dutomboze uwa.., umwe abone radiyo. Urumva y’uko hari abakinyi ba... batatu.

Ubworero murumva y’uko namwe mubonye akanya ko kubamwabona radiyo, kandi kubera kujyakureba umupira gusa. Mutangire rero murebe umupira, uyu munsi had STIR na kiyo... Kiyovu,turebe aho ayo makipe yacu.ageze, turebe aho umupira w’amaguru ugeze.

Mu kanyarero nababwiraga itangazb ry’ishyaka CDR, CDR rero yakoresheje ikiganiro mbwirwa banyamakuru,ikiganiro mbwirwa banyamakuru. Ariko rero kubera ko iritangazo ritishyuye hinga nso..,mbabwire gusa utuntu dukeya muyo CDR yavuze. Yavuze iti "ku byerekeye ishyirwaho ry’Inzegoz’Inzibacyuho, ishyaka CDR rirageza ku baturarwandaibibikurikira : FPR n’abambari bayo bail miri PSD n’abantubamwe ku girl cyabo,ad bo MadamuUWILINGI~A Agata, TWAGIRAMLrNGUFawusitini: MDR, NAYINZIRANépomuscène: PDC na NDASINGWA Landuwaddiwo mu ishyakaPL-ntutsi, FPR ikoresha abo bantu bishakira ubutegetsi ku girl cyabo kugirango ishake uburyo yakwigarudra ubutegetsi muri Guverinoma no mu NtekoIshinga Amategekoby’Inzibacyuho. Ni yo mpamvubaremye agatsiko ko kubuzaabadahuje na bo ibitekerezokujya mu butegetsiby’Inzibacyuho.

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Hanyumarero ku byerekeyeumutekano muke uri mu gihugu,ishyaka CDR riramagana Guverinomairiho, ubu yanze gukora akazi kayo kugira ngo irengere umutekano w’abaturage. Ati "ildbabajeahubwo ni uko Ministrew’Intebe Madame UW~ING[YIMANA Agata yishyize mu mabokoya FPR,kandi azi neza ko ailyo yashozeintambara yazanye ibyago bitagira ingano, cyanecyane ubwicanyi bw’inzirakarengane". Mu magambo make rero ee... nibyo CDR yavuze,

Cassetten° 0190transcrite par OL 27 4 i{" .» ,| arikobikubiye mu ngingo..,mu ngingoeshanu, sinazisoma zose kuko itangazo ubundi ryagombye kuriha"amafranga". Mu kanya rero ndabasomera itangazo ribika ryihutirwa dtugezeho nonaha hanyumadufunge ibyuma byacu, (sous fond sonore) hanyuma ubwo ngubwo turaza kubonana mugoroba.

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