Fifth Serin, Vol. I, No. 7 Saturday, March 27, 1971 Chaitra 6, 1893 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES
First Session (Fifth Lok Sabha)
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No. 7—Saturday, March 2 7 ,1971IChattra #, 1893 Cotuitms Member Sworn 1 Papers laid On The Table i ,4 $ Dein&nda for Supplementary Grants (Wert fcfcrifcal), t97b*7! Statement Presented ...... 2 Defcrands for Supplementary Grants (Orissa), 197071 Statement presented 2 Election o f Deputy Speaker 2—14 Shrxmati Indira Gandhi ...... 3—4 Shri A. K. Gopalan 4 Shri K. Manoharan 4—5 Shri S. M Baneijee 5 Shri Shyamnandan Mishra ... 5—6 Shri Jagannath Rao Joshi ... 6 &r. Melkote 6— 7 $hri Piioo Mody 7 Shri Frank Anthony 7—8 Shri'Simar Guha ... 8 Mr. Speaker Shri d G. Swell ... 12—14 St&imettt Re. Recent Developments in East Bengal ... 1 4 -4 3 Staran Singh ... 16—*17 Shri A. K. Gopalan 17—/8 ShrT (I, K. Mukerjee 18—n^l Shri €&ntamani Panigrahi ... fcr. V. K. R. Varadaraja Rao *22-23 Shri Krishna Menon ...... i« . 23—25 abrlStmar Gtiha...... 25 -2 8 Shri A* K. Sen «♦• •»» *** *•* S*~&1 Shri XL Manoharan ...... •••- ; £T~33 jtesr! Jfafcattttttth Rao Joahi ...... * ... 33-*rl4 Or. Hari Prasad Sfearma 34^*35 Sfafi Sliyamnandan M ishra...... 3 3 ^ 3 7 BhH S. A« Shamim *m 3 7 - ^
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Columns Shrimati Indira Gandhi *•« 42—41 Business of the House 4 3 -4 4 , 1 8 0 -8 2 Election to Committee— Rubber Board ... 4 4 -4 5 Statement Re. Missing Aircraft— Dr. Sarojiai Mabishi , ... 47—49 General Budget, i97l-72*~»Gineral Discussion and Demands for Grants on Account (General), 1971-72 ...45, 49-123 Shri C. M. Stephen ... 49—51 Shri Dasaratha Deb ... 51—54 ^ f Shri C. E. Bhattacharyya 5 4 -5 6 Shri Piloo M ody ... 56—63 Shri Tarkeshwar Pandey ... 6 3 -6 6 Shri S. A. Shamim ... 6 6 -6 8 Shri K. C. Pandey ... 6 8 -7 1 Shrimati Sahodrabai Rai ... 71—77 Shri C. Chittibabu • t* 7 7 -7 9 Shri P. K. Ghosh »M 7 9 -8 3 Shri S. B. Thakre 83—«5 Shri Yeshwantrao Chavan • •• 8 5 -9 6 Appropriation (Vote on Account) Bill, 1971— introduced and passed •e« 123—24 Finance BUI, 1971>— Motion to consider #•« 125—44 Shri Yeshwantrao Chavan 125,, 142-43 Shri Samar Mukherjee 126— 33 Shri $. M. Banorjee »*• 1 3 3 -4 2 Clauses 2 to 8 and 1 • •• 1 4 4 -5 8 Motin to Pass • ** 158 &r» Me&ote 1 4 5 -4 7 ^Shd B, R. Shukla 1 4 7 -5 2 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu * *•» 152—15^ Shri Yeshwantrao Chavan 15 6 -4 # W itt Bengal Budget, 1971-72— Presented -Shri Vidya Charan Shukla *41 158-MS? Orissa Budget. 1971-72— Presented i 3hri Vidya Charan Shukla i$ 7 ~ ;*
Mysore Budget* 1971-72— k Presented Shri Vidya Charan Shukla IM* 1 7 6 -8 0 Demands for Supplementary Grants (Mysore), 1970*71 Statement Presented ' 1«0 LOK SABHA DEBATES
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LOK SABHA DEMANDS FOR SUPPLEMENTARY GRANTS (WEST BENGAL), 1970-71 Saturday, March 27, l97HChaitra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6, 1893 CSaka) MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI VIDYA CHAR AN SHUKLA): 1 beg to present a statement showing Supplementary Demands for Grants in respect of the State of Wect The tok Sabha met at Eleven of Bengal for 1970-71. the Clock
[Mr, Speaker in the Chair.} DEMANDS FOR SUPPLEMENTARY GRANTS (ORISSA), 1970*71
MEMBER SWORN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRf VIDYA Shri Onkar La! Berwa (Kota) CHARAN SHUKLA); 1 beg to present a statement showing Supplementary Demands for Grants in respect of the State of Ortsqa for 1970-71.
PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE SHRI KALYANASUNDARAM (Tiro- chirap&Iii); I had giv n a notice o f * Twentieth R eport of U.P.S.C. and motion of breach of privilege. Just now Statement relating tereto somebody informed me that the Speaker was pleased to reject it. I am not discussing your rejection. But the rules are clear. THE* MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Even the rejection should be done onthe MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND floor of the House. MINISTER OF STATE DEPTT. OF ELECTRONICS, DEPTT. OF ATOMIC MR. SPEAKER i No, I have not allwised ENERGY AND DEPTT. OF SCIENCE it. You may discuss it with me In my AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI K C. chamber. Let us follow the convention. PANT); On behalf of Shri Karo Niwas Mirdha, | beg to lay on the Table — SHRI KALYANSUNDARAM : Will you give me an apportunity to discuss it (1) A copy of the Twentieth Report with you in your chamber. (Hindi and Bftglfch versions) of the Union Public Service Commis MR. SPEAKER : Yes. sion for the period 1st April, 1969 10 31m March, 1970, under Article 323 (1) of the Constitution. [Placed in hibtory. See No. LT—24/71.] 11*03 hours*
(2) A statement (HittSi and English ELECTION OF DEPUTY SPEAKER vertion#) shoving reasons for delay SHRl A. K. GOPALAN (Palghat) ; 1 to layiag the above Report, bag to #w>ve : Placed in tlbmry. S& No LT—• “That $hr» G. 9 . $well, a member of 3 Election of MARCH 27, m Deputy Speaker 4
thM House, be chosen & thq, Deputy ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OP HOME Speaker of this House.'* AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION SHRI R. K. S1NHA (Faizabad) t I AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI second the motion. INDIRA GANDHI) : Mr Speaker, may I in a very few words offer our beany con MR. SPEAKER ; There or a number of gratulations to Professor Swell on his re- other motions, but as they are identical, may election as Deputy-Speaker. We are speci 1 put the first motion ? ally glad that we find him restored to full > SHRI K. ‘MANOHARAN (Madras health after a long illness and able to take North) : Bach must be moved because that up his normal schedule of work which, as you all know, is by no means a light load. wilt show that the entire opposition supports A fine parliamentarian himself, he has made the motion. a mark as Deputy-Speakar in a compara MR. SPEAKER : They were not moved tively short time through his earnestness, in the previous case. They are on the Order devotion and deep concern for upholding Paper. the privileges and responsibilities of indivi dual members as well as of the House as a SHRI K. MANOHARAN ; At least you whole. He has proved to be a fine guardian can read them. of the parliamentary process and has been able to inspire wide-spread feeling of friend* MR. SPEAKER : Yes. There are similar ship and respect in the House. I assure him motions by Shri Indrajit Gupta seconded by of the fullest co-operation from all members Shri Kaiyanasundaram, by Shri A. B. of this House. Vajpayee seconded by Shri Jagannath Rao Joshi by Shri Manoharan socondcd by Shri SHRI A. K. GOPALAN (Palghat) : Sezhiyan, by Shri P. K. Deo seconded by Mr. Speaker, Sir, we congratulate Shri Swell Shri Roksi Nayak and by Shri S. N. Mishra on his election as Deputy-Speaker. His name seetinded by Shri Digvijttya Narain Singh. was unanimously proposed by the opposi tion and supported by the Government. The first motion is moved by Shri A. K. That itself shows as Deputy-Speakar he will Gopaian and seconded by Shri R. K. Sinha. have the support and good-wishea of all the there is only one name suggested in all sections of the people in this House. 1 do the motions. The question is : not want to say anything more because, as long as I sit near him, I will be able to say “That Shri G. G. Swell, a member of whatever I want to tell him when he is this House, be chosen as the Deputy sitting near me. So, while congratulating Speaker of this House.** him I will only remined him of the critical situation that is developing in this country The motion was adopted. as well as outside. As And when some pro blems arise in this country rather suddenly MR, SPEAKER : I declare that Shri it will be his responsibility to see that they G. G. Swell, a member of this House, has are solved, if necessary, even by not strictly been unanimously elected as the Deputy- adhering to the rule* and procedure. I again Speaker, congratulate him on behaif of my party. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): Re* SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras elected. N orth): Mr. Speaker, I , think this is the flist time that the Peputy-Speaker is being MR. SPEAKER : Yes, re-elected. Now sponsored and proposed by the opposition Shri Swell may eome and occupy his seat, and supported by the Government. That which is just to my left. shows the gesture of goodwill on Che part of Government ia spite of h t massive victory CMr. DepvtySpeaker cShri G-G- and majority in this House, Swell) tkm Occupied Ms Seat] So far as Shri Swell It coacetned, 1 need THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER OF hot ««y much about him. He had ettahftfetd J Ebetkm v f CHUTRA 6. IS9J (SAKA3 Deputy Spek*r < fefatseff as a distinguished Deputy-Speake* Sir, the new Parliament has elected the in the last Parliament. ? had occasion to be two old faces for two inntoftanf posts, that with him at Cairo while he was one of the is, of the first servant of the House
[Dr. Melkote] full effectiveness of the whole repertoire of to himself but to (he whole House. The the parliamentay techniques wilt be reasserted responsibility of a Deputy Speaker is a very , arduous one and he has discharged it very May I very respectfully make two sugges* ably. I congratulate him on his being tions ? That is, that the old convention will elevated to this office and offer him our restore itself to the Speaker's eye. Mr, Spea- fullest co-operation. ker, that is that the eye of the Speaker was exercised with considerable discretion. It SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra); la m fell on Members because of their capacity to very happy at what has happened. Swell is make a contribution. There was no mecha really a swell guy and I appreciate the fact nical coming down the line to choose speakers that he will be presiding over this House for and our time was not allotted in terms of at least half the time. split minutes. When I was a younger member Knowing how he performed in the last often I was called upon to introduce some Lok Sabha, I don’t think he will have any important debates. So also Mr. Hridaynath difficulty in performing in this Lok Sabha Kun7.ru. If that convention could be restored, at all. Therefore, while I congratulate him I think, Mr. Speaker, there will be a tremen on his election, 1 offer him no co-operation dous refurbishing of the image of the House. whatsoever. I am sure he won’t need it. Once again I congratulate Prof. Swell and SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nomina- wish him well in this responsible office. ted-Anglo-Indians) : Prof. Swell's re- election is a matter of special pleasure for SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Mr. me. You will recall that on the last Speaker, Sir, we are very happy to have occasion he was the nominee of the In Prof. Swell back as the Deputy Speaker dependents Group and now 1 have the in this Hoube pleasure of escorting him to his chair. During the last session he discharged Mr. Speaker, may I on this occasion very his responsibilities as Deputy Speaker very respectfully make a submission both to you honourably, in upholding the rights and the and to Mr. Swell. I had the privilege of privileges of the Members in this House. seeing this scene unfold in this House for He was very considerate and sympathetic to the past 30 years—perhaps you may say too the Opposition particularly. This time I will long, and even before Independence, and make a particular request to him, to show one thing 1 noticed was that in spite of the more sympathy and consideration to Oppo frustration of a colonial regime, parliamen sition, in the face of the brute majority of tary standards, even in pre-Independence the ruling party. Otherwise the activities days, wei» examplary and those rather in this House would become rather stale. examplary standards, Mr. Speaker, 1 will again request him, indeed, to be a continued right down to 1967. And I say little bit more benevolently partial to the this with regret without pointing a finger, Opposition, to enliven the activities in this that from 1967 there was a landslide decline House. in parliamentary standards. You, Mr. Speflfcm, will have occasion to remember 1 pray to God that he succeeds in it. Th* image of Parliament was tarnished. upholding the dimity* honour and privilege The House and indeed the chair were held of this House. Thank you. to ransom almost every day and you had to put up not only with the deliberate designs MR. SPEAKER : Hon Members, while but often with deliberate insult. I think what joining you in felicitations, I have very has happened to-day has given us a chance great pleasure in extending my own cong to restore the effectiveness of parliamentary ratulations to my old colleague Prot techniques and the image of Parliament. I Swell. His name is not new to us. know my friends here are particularly feeling a little sore on being numerically emascu Before his election as Deputy Speaker lated. But, Mr. Speaker, I think that you of the Fourth Lok Sabha, he was a veiy will now ensure that within the framework prominent Pwfiamantarian, an excellent of these minimum standards of deoomu, the debator and essentially a man of scholarship 0 Election of CHAlYRA 6, l$9$ (SAlCA) beputy Speaker 10 and academic achievements. He is equally has been Professor too. In his very literary known for his achievement# in public life. style he said, we have to be more revolving. That was referred to by Mr. Frank Anthony Last £ime we elected him as a represen when he mentioned about the Speaker's eye. tative when he was representing Assam. The eye is one and there are to many people This time he is representing a new State of to catch it; we normally keep it revolving* Meghalaya. and sometimes deliberately avoiding alto, We are very happy that the representative of the new State of Meghalaya has been SHRI PILOO MODY : But we do not elected at our Deputy Speaker, a very have an one-eyed Speaker. honoured position in this House. KlR. SPEAKER : But a gentleman of bit As you all know, he did so much work volume makes four. I can assure hon. for the uplift of the down-trodden hill people Members that while Mr. Swell was perform that he is held in so much of esteem and ing duties, 1 had not the least worry about affection by all those people. He is very anything going wrong in this House. By much known for his sobriety, gentleman electing him we have not taken a risk. lines* uprightness and gentleness of manners. I am very happy that after a brief illness Of course, as my hon. friend Shri S. N. he has come bade to this House as hale and Mishra has said, the monotony of faces hearty, and much stronger in health, I can will continue for five years. This monotony say, now when he is Member of this Fifth will be a little more for the old colleagues Lok Sabha. and a little less for the new Members.
He stood well along with me all the SHRI PILOO MODY : She may want trials and tensions of the laet Lok Sabha. a change of faces. We had to face those strains and stresses together. MR. SPEAKER : I cannot change my beard. Otherwise, I could have done it. Very often, when a Speaker or a Deputy Speaker is elected in the House of Commons I found, their wives are also congratulated Parliament and democratic institution* along with them. 1 congratulate Mrs. Swell are on a great trial, and they are in a great along with him. Luckily we have very crisis. We cannot take Parliament and its good patient wives also. deliberations and the participation* made by the Members in the old conventional SHRI S. BANERJEE: There was a sense. The world is going too fast ahead of on our part; we failed to congratulate us, and we have to catch up with it. Great Mrs. DhiUon. political, economic and social changes are going on. We shall have to see that Par Nan MR. SPBAICBR: Don't worry; I am ment adjusts itself to the rising aspiration* going to moke ud myself. After atl the impa of the people. The procedure and practice* tience and tensions and point-up anger in the and conventions have also to be liberalised* Honte, the first person on whom you relieve We have to be a bit more generous i» everything is the wife, 1 am very happy adapting the and also acting on them. that, t#th these ladies are responsible for soothing us and looking after us. When But, basically, t may bring it to the
SHRI JYOT1RMOY BASU ; Diamond MR. SPEAKER : We both have been Harbour) : lit keeping with the aspiration* journalists; we have been in the teaching of tbe people. line; we have lawyers. But I do not think he has been an army officer which I was at MR. SPEAKER : Aspirations are also one time. *fery Welcome, but not personal aspirations sometimes. I again convey my heartiest congratula tions to Prof. Swell and also extend my AN HON. MEMBER: But sot congratulations to the whole House, to the perspiration. member who proposed and the member who seconded, oa electing such a good and MR* SPEAKER : Of course, perspiration sober gentleman as their Deputy-Speaker. ilr* can avoid in this House. SHRl O G. SWELL (Autonomous Dist It Shall be our endeavour, I can safely ricts) : May I say, Sir, that I am deeply grate any this on Prof. Swell’s behalf also, to ful to the House for this renewed confidence fceep up a proper balance between the old in me ? I feel particularly gratified that the and the new Members, between the young election has not only been unanimous but and the aged Members, between the hand that my name has been sponsored and sup some and the little uglier ones, and between ported by every section of the House, and 11m taxes also* We shall have to keep a that it has fallen to my lot to provide one of ymy proper balance. We shall not try to the rare occasions when the Government a noy hon. Members. At the same time, we Benches and the Opposition can co-operate do expect (hat they will also understand the unreservedly m keeping with the best tradi difficulties and the awkward situations tions of parliamentary practice. sometimes in which the presiding officers are put. I feel overwhelmed and humbled, but encouraged too. AH I can say in return is Unless boo. Members appreciate this, that I shall ever endeavour to prove myself We cannot run the House. Respect for each ever worthier of the confidence that the House other is very essential not only amongst the has reposed m me. Members but between the presiding officers and the Members. We are simply the aervants of the House to carry out its com As you know, this is the new House that mands and to conduct this House with the nation has called into commission. It greater dignity and efficiency which I assure i« new, not only in the Sense that it has been hon* Members that we would not be found newly elected ; it is also new comptextioa, in foiling in. tone and in tone in tenor. Of the 915 mem A bers at present, as many as 29! are new As ,1 said last time, Prof. Swell and I members, most of them belonging to the fctttfr many things identical, and we have ruling party. 1 am sure there will be many also many things which are far away. Both a hidden talent that has got to be uncovered, lit come from the minorities, and from and also that there it « m y a human dynamo the bonder States, but his community is not that has got to be handled with care arid a» aggressive as mine, and so, 1 have to be fineness, I am sure we will feet to know each very careful about it. other better in coure of time.
\ wish him a very vary happy and But, many of us hem also have had the Kow^Hit time. I hope he win be vary vary opportunity of being members a t the last cautious to give chances to the new mem* House and we k#ow what "a convulsive time we heirs so tb# thay may show themselves had to pate through. Caught in the tform that m * . develop their talents in debating lashed the House almost day after day, m a^ of us were anguished and 4 M wiih appwhea- lion about the survival ot parliamentary 4 m * Da tbia country, *n retrospect, howevar, SHRI ft, MANOHARAN j Cautious or the# lean have proved unfounded M l generous ? ana ***** ana ndi ihanv o ■*» ****** 13 Election q f Deputy Speaker CHAif ra 6 ,1993 (jSA&Q develepmerits in East U Bengal who wfU nost look to those (toys with a certain talents wifi have ample scope, so that the tmowt of nostalgia* Those were the days decisions that may emetge out of the when the Home was not only the mirror of (he discussions will prove equal to the eiigendiss nation* a$ indeed it is today, hut also a sen of the situation aed provide the country sitive barometer of it* moods and tantrums at with the required leadership a period that may be considered as a 'water- shed’ in its history. Those were the days when What we shall lack in this House we witnessed democracy breaking itself loose because of the absence of political clashes from the precincts and confines of the elite, we shaft have to make up by greater1 aware* percolating to the grassroots* and imbuing ness, greater seriousness greater depth and the common man of India with a new aware greater articulation. ness of his strength and importance. In such a situation, clashes of issues and May I, in conclusion, thank you and the personalities were inevitable. A meeting Prime Minister and the leaders of the various often sparkled with brilliance of which any parties and groups for, the many kind Parliament in the world could be proud. things that they have said about mo. It went to the credit of the House that despite all those clashes, it never over step* ped its limits, and it went to the credit of the common man of India that he also was never swept off his feet, and when he was called to renew his mandate to the House he did it with a maturity and poise that 4*00 hrs took every one of us by surprise. In the context of what is happening in the rest of the world today, especially in countries STATEMENT RE : RECENT neighbouring on oun, this action of the DEVELOPMENTS IN EAST B&fdAL voter of India is of extraordinary signifi cance. MR. SPEAKER : Shri Swaran Singh.
From those exciting days to the present SHRI S.M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): 1 is like a journey through choppy sea to wish to rise on a point of order. placid shores. Many of us looked to this occasion with great eagerness, bat now that MR. SPEAKER : Point of order on we have arrived, I am some what afraid of what? the prospect. lam afraid of the going being too smooth and easy, Inst we sink SHRI S M. BANERJEE : You am awaie into a sort of happy insensibility, lest we that under the rules the Minister hat every fail to resist the temptation to forget the right to make a statement suv wqfu on fn* „ clear and massive mandate that the people important matter which he thinks fit. My of India have given to this House. For, if point of order is thi?, that Calling Attention we do so, it will be a disaster, and nobody Notices wore tabled by us ,, OH predict the dimction that the nation will take thereafter. I am sure yon will agree M i me that we otfnot afford to have SHRI SAMAR QUHA
[Sfari SiM. Banerjee] THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH) : T te pending—we have not been informed of Government of India cannot bat be gravely their disposal—or the Opposition Member concerned at the events taking place so dose who who have tabled the Calling Attention to our borders. We can, therefore, under* Notice* thouid be allowed to say something stand the deep emotions which have been on this. aroused in this House and in the entire country. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : 1 want to make this submission. The Prune Minister, Honourable Members are, I am sure, I should sayt showed wisdom in inviting fully aware of political developments in the leaders of the oppositio n parties and we Pakistan since November 28,1969 when the had an hour*s discussion in the morning. President of Pakistan announced his plan We all agreed that the statement should be for evolving a democratic Constitution and ' made by the Minister of Externa! Affairs. for the transfer of power to the elected re 1£ven the leader of his party was there. This presentatives of the people. is a scJemn occasion; it is an occasion for expression of our firm determination, sup The Government and people of India port and sympathy to the people who are have always entertained the friendliest of suffering and it is in that light that we feelings for the people of Pakistan. We should accept this statement. had* therefore, hoped that a democratic evolution in Pakistan would follow is natural MR. SPEAKER: According to the course and that the elected representatives procedures laid down, all of you are aware would evolve a Constitution reflecting the that when a Minister makes a statement it urges of the vast majority of the people cannot be, followed by questions. expressed through the elections held in December last year. SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) :...But by A discussion. However, events have taken a different and tragic turn. Instead of peaceful evolution MR. SPEAKER ; You are going to have there is now a bloody conflict. a general discussion on the President's Address. Ample opportunities are available. According to . reports received, the Pakistan , Army Started taking action on the SHRI S M. BANERJEE : There is a midnight of 25th and 26th March against blood bath going on; massacre is going on. units of the East ^kistan Rides, the pro vincial police and the people. The reports MR. SPEAKER : I do not knowhow are that casualties hftve been heavy* On the far It *ill beadvisabie. morning, of March, 26th, the Radio Staton ( at Dacca was seized by the Army. There "•itaE* PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER after the Radio Station made an announce OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF ment of 15 new Marshal Law Regulations HOME AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF PLANN banning, among other things all political ING AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION activities, processions, meetings, speeches AMD BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI and slogans. Complete censnorahip of all INDIRA GANDHI) t May I say that since news, Radio and Television programme was this is a matter on which the whole House imposed. feels strongly, we might make an exception a&4<, allow the Members: to express their Mom than two regular Divisions o$, the Pakistan Army are deployed in suppressing the people of East Pakistan. ,0ur hearts go MR. SPEAKER: 1 quite appweiate the out in sympatty to tbe<{»opJe at* suggestion Uwule by th* Prime Minister;! am 1 11 ■11 t " ^ r pwpated to mafee an exception. I hope you *BI«oiiaWSt i t This Is m exceptional Dfe*»mwUy with «a<»km thMmm •*, exception. Mtf turn U wovM to mwhmo* N*m» I f Developments In CHA1TRA 6, 1893 (SAKA) East Bengal State I* democratic processes leading to the fulfilment We condemn the brutal onslaught and of the aspirations of the vast majority of military massacre on the part of West the^people there. We cannot but take note Pakistan's military forces and wholeheartedly of the Odd that such a large segment of support this struggle of the people of humanity is involved in a conflict and that Bangla Desh and call upon the people of many people are suffering in the process. India and the Indian Government to extend all support that should be nndered to the Recently, when natural disaster overtook people of Bangla Desh. Bast Pakistan, the Government and the people of India along with other members Sheikh Mujibur Rahman has sought the of the international community responded help of Asio-African countries, in their to bring relief to the sufferings of the people struggle for independence, and if this there. continues, in course of time, we will have even to think whether we will have to sup* We are prepared to make our contri port the independence of Bangla Desh and bution once again, in concert with the try to see that whatever help is possible is members of the International Community or International humanitarian organisations, given. concerned with bringing relief to innocent victims of conflict. SHRI H.N. MUK.ERJEE (Calcutta-North East) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is, as you SHRI A. K. GOPALAN (Palghat): said, an exceptional occasion when you will What is happening m Bang la Desh, East perhaps permit the expression of the emotion Pakistan, is not a civil war in the real sense of our people in regard to something of a civil war. It is a war between military which has happened which goes against the dictatorship on the one side and the demo* grain of all human decency. cratic wishes and aspirations of the people of Bangla Desh on the other. In the Bangla Desh, to which so many of us election, the people of Bangla Desh voted here in this House also belong, is bleeding for the Awami League and its leader, in a thonsand wounds because the people of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and they fought East Eengat have risen in a kind of revolu the election on the basis of full autonomy, tion almost without precedent in history and leaving one or two subjects—foreign affairs ate now being sought to be punished by and defence—in charge of the Centre. those who do hot know anything but thd Instead of accepting the result of the law of the jungle. election and the wishes of the people, what Mr. Yahya Khan did was to suppress even the civil liberties of the people, and from Sir, in East Bengal, what had happened the statement we understand that even the was of a great deal more significance than shouting of slogans is banned, and hundreds what the Government’s statement seems to of people are shot dead. make out. In spite of the natural inhibition which must be in whatever Government is functioning in this country, I cannotuodcrstand They have also Said that Sheikh* why the wording of the statement is so life Mujfbrfr Rahman has declared the indepen less and how even the evaluation of what has dence of Bangla Desh and called the happened in East Bengal was so much people to ftfcht the occupation forces from against the true state of facts. What happen West Pakistan. ed in East Bengal is something almost un precedented ' in history. It was a revolution There is another problem also which by content. It was as a result of the ballot itt&y face our
[Sh. H.N. Multerjee] are our own people. 1 speak the same Gandhi should salute in the maimer that is language as the language which is spokfett called for at the present moment of time. in Hast Bengal, not me alone, but so many of us here. And, we are ashamed that the You know how when the hartal took Government of this country makes a state place in Decca and the rest of East Bengal ment which makes no reference to the from the Chief Justice down to the Govern- blood relationship which exists between our nor’s cook, everybody stopped work. The two countries. At this rate, this Government person who was appointed Military Adminis would go ahead in such a manner that in trator or in some such comparable position the north-eastern parts of our country-1 was not given his oath of office, because include in it the area where Dr. Swell is the Chief Justice refused. We have never resident-things might happen which might seen in history an example of a united create a different sort of history than what people functioning in this manner, determi is being looked forward to by certain people ned to go ahead in a peaceful and truly on the other side. democratic spirit in otder to bring about a change in their condition, the condition I wish, therefore, Government takes a which they say is one of servitude to West more understanding view of the situation. I Pakistan. wish Government says, this kind of genoci de against 70 million people will not be * I am not entering into the merits of the permitted. I wish Government to announce matter, but we should ail listen to the here that they would go to the United cri de coeuf the cry from the heart which Nations or whatever ojther forum their comes from Bast Bengal, the cry of agony. Constitution might provide. Let them tell us It is not the sort of agony which is weak that they are going to those forums in order to and humiliating. Sheikh Mujibhur Rahman put up the case of the people of East Bengal, said, Bengalis know how to die like human and we shall da so became thsy and we are beings. And, that ia why they are fighting one. We are one people. Mujibur Rahman back. 70,000 troops are now engaged in the has said so many grand things about the task of crushing the resistance of the people normalisation of relations and restoration of of Fast Bengal. In this posture of things, friendship between India and Pakistan. He did when in East Bengal a new precedent has not want the demoralisation of Pakistan; taken plaue in the history of constitutional he warned only the trade and other friendly progress You and the Deputy Speaker relations between our two countries should were talking about new parliamentary per be resumed. The blackgaurds in that part spectives-1 hope you and I learn a lesson of the country, the perfidious people who from Hast Bengal, where a revolution by conduct negotiations in Dacca and then form consent is sought to be brought about and the safety of Karachi declare martial law, that revolution by consent is thwarted by those perfidious people are now going *® do interests who ace now at the beck and call something which, as 1 said earlier, goes of people whom we know very well. This against the grain of all human decency. m t of thing is happening. They want to make our country another battling ground I was not prepared that so soon after far interests which want to fish in troubled the election, which has given them so much waters. Hem is Bast Bengal which wants of exuberance and exhilaration, they would autonomy. Here is East Bengal which forget even to express in a kind of humane wants an end to the oppression which has manner, in a kind of reasonable demoesatkr betya exercised on it by certain interests in manner, the sympathy of this country for West Pakistan, Her* is Bast Bengal which the people of East Bengal. I am very wanted autonomy for itself. It is be- disappointed with the statement, t have ing crushed. 70 million people are being no hesitation in saying I am very disappoin saught to ho crushed and we are here only ted with the statement. If what Shri Bwaran talking about the embarrassment which Singh hat said is the last, word on thU might take place on account of something subject this Government ik miking a terrible' happening in a neighboring c*>uniry. Thane mistake. I hope the Prime Minister dufem*' is not a w w l i» the Government «tatemewt —4 do not know her ttffte she irf fantillB. ill jyaNWi tW HMUftllil u ijkA awit rtfinias inti "toe 21 Developments k Ch a it r a «, ittJ ($AKA) East BtngaKStat.) n bate had so far, to say something supplement whether in this moment of crisis the brave the Statement of Sartor Swaran Singh, and fighters of Bangia Desh have sought any say something more concrete, say something assistance and whether this government is about what India is doing or not doing in going to help them, at least by expressing the international forum about the genocide our sympathy, so that they could carry on and the bloody blackguardery which has this unequal fight against the dictatorship of been practised by the ruling junta in order West Pakistan. to demolish democracy and everything that is human and decent in our country and in our sub-continent. DR. V.K.R. VARAD ARAM RAO (Bel. lary): Sir, as a member of the ruling party, I rise to express my sense of great grief at SHRI CHfNTAMANI PANIGRAHI the suppression of democracy which is going (Bhubaneswar): Sir, this is the most serious on in Bast Bengal today. Almost for the moment in the history of India and Pakistan first time in Indian history, or the history of and in fact the whole of South Eastern this sub-continent, a non-violent movement region. From what has been reported in has succeeded beyond all expectations. I the newspapers and from the statement of would even go to the length of saying it has the Foreign Minister we know the immense succeeded beyond what tt has in our own suffering of the people of Bangia Desh and beloved country of India. The leader of we have to express the deep anguish in our that non-violent movement was carrying on hearts, in the heart of our Prime Minister, peaceful negotiations; he was not demanding Qur government, all parties here and the independence; he was demanding autonomy whole people of this country. I think the and the redress/of long-standing grievances. Pnme Minister should give a little expression That such a demand should have been met to her anguish when she makes a statement by the use of brutal force against an unarmed to supplement what the Foreign Mintatre and wholly non-vtofent people is unimagin has stated so that the brave fighters of able. 1 do not think history has ever seen Bangia Desh, who are fighting against colo the Chief Justice of a part of a State refusing nial domination, who are waging one of to administer the oath of allegiance to the the biggest battles in Asia's history for martial law administrator. I do not think upholding human rights and liberty would any radio station,• of its own accord, has find a little solace from the anguished heart ever been taken change of non-violently by of our Prime Minister. the leaders of the people as in Bast Bengal, Such things did not happen in our own 1 would like to know from the Minister country during the height of the Gandftian •of External Affairs whether there has been movement. That such a wholly non-violent say appeal from Mujibur Rahman and the br. movement for the establishment of democra ave ghters of Rongls Desh for any help from tic rights of the people of East Bengal Asian countries, whether any such call has should have been suppressed by tanks and come to our government and whether their armed forces brought in within a period of emissaries have reached our government. seven days when negotiations were supposed Secondly, is it not a fact that the Mujibor to be going on is something which cannot Rahman is exercising a moderating influence be imagined, i* Bangia Desh and if he is not helped in some way the extremist elements will take which would not be in the interests of 12.00 hr*. India? ! hope the bon. Minister will give a 8ttie clarification, Thirdly, will the Whether it is our neighbour or not is not Government see that no Anther arms go by the point. East Bengal is a part of the M a n Ocean and the Indian Navy will take world and we have proclaimed, as the <&•*«» of it as our government have done President was himself pleased to **y, that lathe case of oversights of arms and India's voice Jbttll be raised whatever there to Bangia Desh. Government is injustice, wherever the*e is oppression. ^oajfm ake tbeir position clear on this. I think, there can be no mow outstanding examplo injustice and ojtfuepJon and %< India would like to know, t * i 23 Derehpmeitis in MARCH 27, m i East Bengal {S t* .) 4*
[Dr. V.K.R. Vaxadaraja Rao] want to submit to the Government that we the use of violence than what we have seen should make it very clear that we shall exercise our utmost obligation to provide taking place in Bast Bengal. the right of asylum to the oppressed people I would Hke to remind the hon, leader of East Bengal, whether you ^all them of my party that in 1947, when we had not refugees or whatever it is. We should not yet formed a Government of this country be merely content with the denial of our and when her distinguished father was the air space arising from the skyjacking apd leader of the so-called interim Government the normal reprisal that follow. I hope, the of India, he called an Asian People’s Government will take immediate steps to Conference. I happened to be at that time. invoke the Geneva Convention. This country Onto of the 48 Members of the Indian will be responsible, in a large measure, in delegation* That Asian People's Conference formulating a convention in view of things was called in order that the voice of India happening there. might be raised on behalf of those people of So long as our diplomatic representa the world fighting against oppression and tives remain in Islamabad, we should obtain tyranny. There can be no better example of such a fight against oppression and correct information on whica we will be tyranny than what is taking place across able to argue the case in the United our frontiers of West Bengal. I know the Nations. leader of my party and the Prime Minister of India has got at least as much courage, It will be a great mistake at this time if not more, as that of her father. to be cynical and say, ‘Wc can do nothing in the United Nations and Parliaments.' I must say, in this connection, that I We have to use every forum of the world. am very much disappointed at the state When certainly a large volume of public ment of my hon. ex-colleague, the Minister opinion in this country is exercised about of External Affairs, in attempting to club the repression and oppression that goes on India’s offer of relief for cyclone victims in Mozambique and Angola or in other with the relief for the people who arp parts of Africa, when most of us are sup suffering m East Bengal from the armed porting the struggle of the Vietnamese people attacks of tanks, etc. To give relief to against imperialism or of the Arab people whom ? To the dead people in East against another kind of imperialism,1 how Pakistan ? 1 do not know. I would like to can we remain unconcerned about the people request the hon. leader of my party to take who are next door to us ? I am not for a a leaf from her father’s book and to con moment suggesting that we should in any vene an Asian People’s Conference in way violate international laws so king as order that the last vestiges of colonialism they exist and we should not promote this be removed from the Asian cooti- revolution. We should not follow the bad jMttt and the people be permitted to live example of Pakistan and do what they are flee and self-respecting lives and also doing in Kashmir. This is a spontaneous be free to frame their future according to movement on the part of the people sancti their own democratic rights. fied by the result of the elections permitted by the ruling party itself. Therefore, white SHRI KRISHNA MENON (Trivandrum): it is a revolution by consent in the classical Mr, Speaker, Sir, what we say in this sense, it is a revolution which has been House has a much vaster audience than I sanctified by the vote of the people and see in the Hcuse and the whole of the there can be no two ways about this. And country* There should be no doubt in the I do hope that the Prime Minister will find minds of the people that we recognise what her way to enable organizations Hke the has happened in Bast Pakistan is a national Indian Red Cross to move out, and if the revolution a national movement against, authorities concerned refuse, then other colonial regime which has been going on steps should be taken. for some yean. I do not *aiit to take the little time Afro-Asiaa opinion fchich is «*
SHRI SAMAR GUHA ; S r, to-day I Those who have any elementary idea of am one of the happiest men in this sub the geographical situation of Bangia Desh continent because I had the privilege to know this. There are many rivers (hem. work with Mujibur Rehman for five year in It is impossible even for togistfc reasons to East Bengal and I was dubbed a mad man suppress the total revolution of the total for* as far back as 1952,1 wrofc* a book in population there. which I said that independent t *st Bengal is bound to oome doe to the inter tal contradi- I would remind the Prime Minister that tions of the two wings of Pakis an. There such movements in the life of a n r ion, in ijhe after, I wrote several articles an i books and history of a nation, do not come always. every time - 1 was dubbed as netting but a It is a decisive time. It is time for decisive t&ad man. But* Sir, the drqsro of a snad action by the leader of the Indian Govern n*a Unity is being fulfilled and that is why ment. 1 said on many occasions that real solu- I fee* tm*cikjfcappy to-day., tion of Indo-Pakistao problems does not lie in 17 Developments In MARCH 27, im East BmgaHStatS »
[Shri Samar Cuba] of Bangia Desh have requested India, Ceylon and other Asiatic and world Kashmir but in the revolutionary movement countries to extend to them all kind of help. in East Bengal and in its concept of They have declared it openly, Therefore ‘Swadhin Bangla/ if the revolut ionary this is not something against the will of the movement in East Bengal succeed*, which people of Bangla Desh. The sovereignty of it is bound to, (hen there will be revolutio the Independent Govt, of Bangla Desh has nary change and political correction in the got to be recognised, entire sab-continent, and in the entire re lations between India and Pakistan also. I would also request the hon. Prime Minister to rake the matter of the genocide I do say that immediately the Govern of the civilian people and the massacre of ment should give recognition to the inde thousands of innocent freedom-lovers of pendence Republic of Bangla Desh. We East Bengal to the UN Human Rights have to see what are the conditions that Commission immediately and without any a nation and a people must fulfil to exercise further delay. their complete sovereignty and to proclaim their sovereignty. It is to be seen that the I would also request the hon- Prime Awami League secured 162 Membership, Minister to request the Government of more that the total majority of the member Ceylon as also the Government of Britain ship that represents the Pakistan National not to allow the Colombo port and the Assembly. Maldive islands to ferry arms and ammuni tion and the Military personnel of West Therefore, if the internationally accepted Pakistan into Hast Pakistan. 1 would request democratic principles have any meaning, Government to inv'ne the attention of the those people of Bangla De&h have every other Government to the fact that the right to declare and proclaim themselves as Pakistan Navy may not be allowed to an independent and sovereign State. operate in rhe Bay of Bengal and in the Indian Ocean to carry the murderers, the They are in physical control of the land killers and the butchers from west Pakistan of Bangla Desh completely. They are in to East Bengal. physical control of civil administration hav ing total loyalty of the total population 1 would also make one other request. there. They have their own government and I know that thousands of Bengalis of own flag. AH the conditions fulfilling Bangla Desh are terrorised, and thotw sovereignty are all present there. Therefore terrorised Bengalis have taken shelter near they have every right in the real democratic the Karachi airport. They do not know what tenfte to declare themselves an independent will happen to them. They are also being country and India has also a right, accord butchered. Therefore, I would request ing to the International principles to accept Government to permit them a 6afe passage and accord recognition to that Independent through India over-route either by* train State of Bangla Desh. or otherwise and by giving them all sorts of facilities for going back to M r homeland. This is a delicate matter. 1 don't say In4ia should Jump on East Bengal with In conclusion, I would say that this ia a her military, Short of military intervention, momentous occasion. Let us not failJa short of going against international code this historic moment.Let the Prime Minister and diplomatic relations, India should go act as a courageous daughter of Mother all Out to give all possible help to the India* raise the baaner of defending revela people of Bait Bengal and the revolution tion in Bengla Desh and act up to the dawn aries there. of a future India.
1 would suggest a few things. India My salute to Bangia Desh ? Ja£ Bangla: should immediately mobilise world opinion. Jai Hindi ? Mujtour Rahm&h zindahud; I would remind the Prime Minister H*taii tin fa M l Netaji is the i*tfepk«4iMi about m . This is the first time the leaders Mujtbur Rahman. I personally kaowthat. » Deeehpments in CHA!TRA«, im (SARA) Eat Bentd IStat.) »
SHU A.K SEN (Calcutta North Wert) ; But this is not the voice of Bangla Desh This i« not merely a grave moment but a alone. This is not the voice of West Bengal very proud moment, and we are all happy alone. It is not our individual voices, bat the to tee, though very very anguished, that an voice of Asia, the voice of the colonial world entire nation has risen m revolution, and which is speaking out to the whole humanity merely revolt, against the oppressors who for succour and help in their hour of dis* have been exploit mg them for years and tress and in their hour of enslavement, decades. Many of the areas which are now crimson red with human blood are Therefore the Prime Minister will be known to us personally. There were scenes giving that leadership, which she has given in them in our struggle for freedom, Where to the country, to the whole of Asia if she thousands of martyrs had shed thetr blood takes courage in her hands and calls for a under the British bullets. Happily again, total human endeavour againts this oppres those are the scenes again where the bullets sion and this conspiracy to enslave an entire of West Pakistan have come to now down people. millions of innocent people who only want to ti'e like decent citizens and want to This is not a moment for India alone cherish the great rights to which they are it is moment for the entire free world, entitled. What have they done? They have and if we rise, then we shall always merely voted their leader to power. They be remembered as a people who merely have voluntarily given atl the authority to not shouted our help to the oppressed that leader. He did not wrest authority but have actually shown how that by military force like Ayub Khan or Yahya sentiment can be translated into action. Khan. People gave all authority to htm Therefore, the time for action has come, not voluntarily, and the consent of the people merely extending our sympathy to those rela- was writ large every where. When these ted millions across our borders. They are great leaders of the military were there in closely related to us, they are friendly to us, East Pakisan, they saw /ilh their own eyes they need our help,and if we deny that help the flag of Bengia De* 1 flying aloft every to them today, we wilt not be forgotten by house and every building, except the Govern these free people in the /uture. ment House and the mi itary headquarters, and as a punishment, he military have Let us organise ourselves and give all unleashed the engines of var on an entirely the help we can unofficially. Let Government innocent people who lumber about 70 as on institution rise up and stop ail flow million. Millions of wo len have come out of arms into East Pakistan, blockade, if into the streets, and > e are all proud of necessary, those ports and seize those ships them. They are the f jsh of our flesh which carry lethal weapons for (he purpose and the blood of our blot 4. They are people of butchering an innocent people. That is a who still speak one of t jr languages. The duty we owe by reason of our allegiance to songs that they have b* m singing on the the Charter of the UN, by virtue of our radio have inspired our p ople for ages. And protestation in the past and by our being a there «re the people to lay who are going signatory to the Genocide Convention. That butchered by these brigar Is brought across enjoins on us to put a stop to genocide in the seas and armed wi h foreign arms for any part of the world, particularly when it the purpose of killing tl ;se innocent indivi* It practised on a people who are So near duals, men, women and hildren. and dear to us.
The words of the External Affairs 1 recall those dayf when our Prime Minister, though very encouraging, though Minister’s great father c lied the conscience full of sympathy, have frankly disappointed of (he world to unite aga tist the Dutch who many of us. I share the sentiments of prof* farted across the tea their soldiers to Mukerjee when he said that a much stronger tuppmss the freedom me 'emet in Indonesia, language is needed, a much more deeeshre Unit moment has again arrived. I would voice was expected to meet a situation aftpmi In otrf Prime Minister te take the which is unparalleled in the history of the m m leadership, world. i t Developments in MARCH 27, 1970 East Bengal [Shri AK. S'rn] could think of taking, we must leave it to I remember when tho French Revolution the Government of India/ Let us not Started and the shouts of the paris mobs embarrass the Government ia that particular reached Varsailies the kins asked : ‘ Are the position. people in revolt ?’ His Minister said, ' No, So far as political parties in this sub sir; it is a revolution V Prof. Mukerjee will continent are concerned, 1 think public remember that. opinion Can be created against the genocide Therefore, this is not merely a groan that is being unleashed in East Pakistan, and angtii'h of a people who have been for which each political party can contribute exploited for years,this is the voice of revo a lot. All party conventions or all-party lution of an entire people which cries out for meeting* can be held and through them we not mersly succour and sympathetic words can mobl ise public opinion. We can focuss but positive action so that the conscince of the attention of the entire sub-continent the world awokes and frowns upon and people, and we can show our moral sympathy destroys those very people who, armed with with the people of East Pakistan. As to froeign arms have descanded themselves whether something more than mere moral upon innocent people to butcher them, sympathy can be given, that has to be left to some secret agencies or international SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras agencies. North) : The statement of the Minister of External affairs is not only not convincing That docs not mean that the Govern but, I am Porry to say, terribly dis ment can keep quiet. It can diplomatically appointing. The concern and feeling of move the muc. Govenment can raise the the House have already been manifested issue in the United Nations in the Human by so many speakers who have preceded me. Rights Commission or any other forum Shri A. K. Sen who spoke just before me which is suitable for focussing attention on has said that strong language is required to what is going on in East Pakistan. be used. So far as I am concerned, what is We had a meeting in the morning with required is not strong language, but strong the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is action to be taken, whether it is visible or much conccrned about it, and the External invisible. Affairs Minister is equally worried about The ballot which has given status, recog it, but in spite of this, the statement has nition, position and independence to the disappointed us terribly. So, I request the people of East Bengal has been snatched Government of India to pay some more away and killed by the bullets that have consideration, and convey the sentiments been poured ceaselessly by Islamabad, expressed by the people and the Members what is going on in East Bengal is not of this entire august body to responsible just a fight between some people in Bast bodies, especially the Asian-African coun Bengal and the military rvgime; the entire tries and mobilise world opinion. people of East Bengal in a full, complete, While I say this I am not asking the Go total effort are waging a war against certain vernment to interfere in the internal affairs military goondas engineered by the Presi of any country. Now it has ceased to be an dent of Pakistan, Yahya Khan, internal affair of Pakistan because lakhs and lakhs of People are being machinegftuned, In this context, what action could the children heve been massacred and ladies are Government of India contemplate? This is being butchered and molested. We can take the question which must receive the attention it up from the angle of human rights, and Of the majority of members here. I want on that basis. I think the Government can do to stress one point very dearly. Already a lot for the peop le of East Pakistan. Let us the Government of India has been accused create goodwill and thereby let us establish of instigating the people of Hast Pakistan your contacts with East Pakistan and Show By means of an open declaration that we ours sympthy to the People of East Pakis are for the people of East Pakistan, I am tan. sure we are spoiling and ruining the cause of the people of East Pakistan. But secretly SHRI SAMAR GUHA i Mo longer or otherwise wliat action the Government East Pakistan, but Bangla Desh, 3S Development* In CHAITRA 6, \m (SAKAJ East BengaHStat.) 34 SHRl K. MANOHARAN s Mr. Samar t , * # ? * , ap|t nx^m *!*r Ctuba hflwi got hit association with Rahman, igm p 4 t « t wrsj;t *jf» and he has'every right to n y so. I have no objection te catl it Bangia Desh or anything, ipr f t ^ MR. SPEAKER: Only a few Memb wifr, 'm m* «tw v* qrfTOrre *vt ers sought Permission to ask questions or m % f m ^rnr ^ oror clarifications, but it has developed into a 5rro^«rfwr^% regular debete. That is the difficulty when you make an exception, that it develops M ^ ^ % w n k m into a debate. 5r^r % f t *nw ^rur, wfTOR ferart^f SHRl P. K. DEO (Kalahandi): It is an important event, and every party shoutd vt ^f«2? % «Rptf^«T ^rwr [Shri Hari Parshad ShormaJ today, if we offer any remarks it is only wiftji meat the proverb that justice delayed Is a view to getting it out of the trouble in jttaticfe*dfenied ; delay will be denying justice which it has deliberately landed itself. Bat, lo the people of East Bengal aftd to their at the same time, we cannot fcohave like the aspirations. French noblemen who, when ho was informed that a revolution had broken out, said that There would be another problem which he had decided to ignore it. We cannot would be coming up Very soon-the shut our eyes, as it has been very emphati question of 'the Tecognition of the de facto cally pointed out by other hon. Members, to Government of East Bengal. I think the the genocide going on our borders, to the OoNfctnrtetA ptfcpwtd. Wt. do TtrtViess suppression of human Yiberties and not want to go inn* the theoretical discus democratic urges and aspirations of the sions on recognition and the requjrment that people who were till the other day our kith a nation needs for recognition. It can and kin, the very members of our families. easily be recognised that the four basic norms which are to be fulfilled for recogni We cannot also shut our eyes to tion are there, The people of Hast Pakistan the clear attempts dc undo the hawe a territory; there is a definite popula democratic elections which had been tion there; they have a definite ethnic held recently in that area and particu- identity and there is the de fa cto control by Jary to the serious developments into to the Government, if I may say so of Mujibhur which may have many dimensions on our Rehman. Because of normal restraints on borders. I do hope that the Government Governments if they fed that they should would be keeping a watchful eyo not only on not say too much it is understandable our eastern bordeis but also on our western but I should point out that if we do not borders, because it is not a moment only to take steps at the proper time, we shall bo think about certain developments that are betraying not only the interests of our taking place in a particular area but they neighbour but we shall also be betraying have a tendency to proliferate and to spread our own basic, cherished precepts. This is in some other areas in other ramification. not the first instance. When similar develop ments took place in Indonesia, we did take I would aiso like to hope that the 'positive action. We did not have to send, Government would take steps that the out nor did we in' fact send, any armed forces. side powers like the GENTO or the SEATO "There is always another tine of action. do not intervene in this matter in any way * There was a confercnce of the international and create an excuse for being on the neigh 'community which was convened in New bouring soil to the menace of all of us. ’Ddhi. I think the least we can do is to take That is another thing’Which the Government some steps in that direction, 1 should only will huve to keep in mind. suggest thart whatever the Government dods should be' done recognising fully the feelings Now, ever we might say either on this of the emit Ire population of this country and side of the house or on the other side of ftioulft 'be such that wc might not be the house must in such a way that they ■ ashamed of in years to come. are not construed to be in anywly pronoun cement of a nature which might help the < SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRk enemies of some of the healthy trends that 1 (Begusarai) ; -Mr.' Speaker, Sir, 1 have so are under way in Pakistan before the people •hesitation in saying that the sfatement made because we are always painted As a perpetual by the Government is pale and anaemic. - 1 enemy of Pakistan. And if such things are would even say that it is lifeless and it is said here which might be construed both to particularly amazing that it should be so their advantage, that is, the advanfcie of from a Government which with all its talk the enemies of ■ those healthy, trends, then massive strength behind it. we would not fp able to do a distinct service to thosd democratic urgttf and 1 would also like to preface my remarics aspiration which am unfolding tfymtdyet , by a few words because hew we h*v* Jtwen in Pakistan. erred iightiy^n the, side of caution, ,W« * > . ' - have never spoken iU of Pakistan. Even tastoly, my party would feels sati&d- 37 Developments In CHAlTftA 6, 189? (SAKA) Bast Bengal (Stat*) 3# even though the statement made by the by emotion. Every word uttered in this Government is not satisfactory in any House should help to promote the freedom manneivand w6 will satisfied if wo have an struggle of East Pakistanis, rather than jive inkling of the fact that the Government has a handle to men like Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto, a real understanding of the situation in that destroyer of our Fokker Friendship, Bengla Desh and it is in ciose touch with that destroyer of Indo-Pak relationship and the fast developing situation there, because that destroyer of Pakistan ultimately, to with their real understanding‘and very real label Mujibhur Rahman as an Indian agent. I alertness on the part of the Government we was a witness to the revolution in Pakistan in hope everything else would follow. We would 1969 when only one charge was levelled agai not ask the Government to say more on nst Mujibhur Rahman in the Agartala consi- this occasion. piracy case that he is a spy, an agent of India. Our remarks here should not streng then the hands of Bhutto. (Interruption). Finally, we also cannot relent in our Let us not lose sight of the harsh realities. duty to project the fact before the internatio Let us not lose sight of the existing condi nal community that there is now a total tions in Pakistan. So far we have got only ruthless suppression of human liberties and a port of the report; we have not got the appropriate manner in which it can be the fullest report you to what is happening projected before them must be taken recourse in Eart Pakistan, whether that great free* to as soon as possible. The Government, dom fighter Mujib is alive or not, whether 1 have no doubt, will not despair of the he is in the hands of Pakistanies or not. diplomatic moves that may be set in motion Let us not rush with suggestions that we on this account, so that the situation there should recognise East Pakistan. I am giving is brought under control and the democratic expression to my views in this case...... rights and aspirations of the people are {interruptions) brought to a consumption, as they were trying to do, through the results of the SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Yours is an election, without much loss of human life. isolated voice. Let me convey on behalf of my party—now I find there is total solidarity in this House, SHRI S. A. SHAM1M : It may he a not only this House but in the country out minority voice. Still, let it be registered. 2 side too—that the people are suffering there have my democratic right to convey my for having waged a courageous, self-reliant voice of dissent. In the same way as you and powerful movement for the expression express your views, 1 have my basic right to of the sovereignty of the people. The move express my view. ment seems to be so powerful and self- relieant that the Government of Pakistan can Suggestions have been made that the never have the excuse of saying that it is case should be referred to the United being backed by outside powers. Rather I Nations. I, as a Kashmiri, know what the am afraid the Government of Pakistan may United Nations does in situations like this. arm Hself with the support of the outside They make a mess of the whole thing. power to suppress them. The movement is What have they done in Kashmir ? You bound to be self-propelling and self-relieants went to the United Nations and you ex and ultimately it is my hope that the move pected a solution in eight days. Now 24 ment will succeed because of the moral years have passed and still you have not strength that has been built in the people. found any solution. SHRI S. A. SHAM1M (Srinagar): Mr. The people of East Pakistan are facing Speaker, my heart bleeds for my brethren aggression. They are facing the imperialist ia East Pakistan and I sham tfie agony and intrigues. This is not the way to rush with •nxfety of this House with regard to the Suggestions ‘‘let us acceptor “ let us not happenings In Ba#t Pakistan. But 1 must accept”, At this stage our agony and anger say that 1 am not parried -away by emotipn. Should find restrained expression. I am in lathis groat hour ofcrisis facing the millions full agreement with the government nod I «t .people 'in Bast Pakistan, *e m m t not appreciate the stand taken by ihe&MWmneot Um head; we mint not bo carried away I would like to say to the Foreign Minister 39 Developments in MARCH 27,1971 Sasl Bengal 40 [Shri S.A. Shamim] Rahman, that great hero, that great freedom fighter. that the restrained (one of the statement is the need of the time. SOME HON. MEMBERS rose-* Mujibur Rahman, who has started the MR. SPEAKER : This cannot go on movement, needs the sympathy of ail of us* indefinitely. He never started the movement on the understanding that Indian Parliament, SHRI P. K. DBO : 1 would like to Indian Government or the Indian people place before the House the views of my will rush to his aid with arms. He is a party. brave individual. From whatever little I MR. SPEAKER : He forgets that I know of him, he is brave enough to fight have allowed all the major parties and also against Pakistani imperialism, to fight a few important members. against Pakistani army. Our expression of sympathy is there and it is placed on SHRI P. K . DEO : Ours is a national record. I am sure he will draw sustenance party and we would like our views to be from this that the Indian Parliament, the recorded here. representatives of India have expressed their sympathy and their agony on what is MR. SPEAKER : I will give two happening in East Pakistan. minutes to Dr. Melkote and Shri Deo. After that the Prime Minister will be called. In this'hour of crises let us not forget that we have situations in this country DR. MELKOTE (Hyderabad) ; We which can be exploited by those whom we have to understand in the proper perspec are accusing today, in Bengal and in other tive what is occuring in East Pakistan. parts of the country. Are you not aware When we consider the developments in of the implications of supporting the right East Pakistan we have to remember our of secession to one part of the country or own past, when we were under colonial the other 1 1 do not support secession and rule and the British dominated us and 1 do not agree that it should be done...... used such force against us as they deemed (Interruptions). fit. At that time we expected the govern ments all over the world to come to our SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Seven and a support and whenever we read in the half crore of people are declaring their papers that such support was forthcoming independence. You have no right to say front some foreign governments in our what you have said...... (.Interruptions). travail in 1930 and 1942 we jfolt most happy. At this juncture we shall be failing in our SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : This Govern duty if we do not express our feeling of ment has recognised the Yahya Government. sympathy and support to their cause, They This Government has not withdrawn its havfe democratically shown that they have recognition of Yahya Government up to got a majority and they are fighting a this day. I am speaking consciously and battle in a non-violent manner, It will be I am speaking with a full sense of responsi a sorry day in India, to whom the whole bility. I for one would not support the world looks for guidance, falls to give right of secession. We have to study encouragement and support to the people the implications, legal and political, of who am waging a non*viotent strangle what you are saying. My heart goes to against a military dictatorship. That is the people of Bengal and 1 am grieved by the point that I would like to make before wfeftt is happening In Bast Pakistan. But you. It is the* doty of the people of India who are rablng a battle for independence Conference and in a)} other international in a very dignified and non-violent manner. forums, and at the same time to send all sorts of relief and medical aid to the people I support all the Members who have there. spoken of this. But I must say that the statement made by the Externa! Affairs Lastly, I salute those brave martyrs who Minister is both insufficient and inadequate. are laying their lives for their motherland. I have full sympathy with them. MR. SPEAKER : I have just received THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER OF the news from the P.T.I., I think, it is ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF HOME coming from our own teleprinter. It says AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION that the East Bengal leader Mujibur AND BROADCASTING (SHRIMATI Rahman has been arrested. Radio Pakistan INDIRA GANDHI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, first announced today...{Interruptions). of all if, I may say so, you have the House, some news we have received...... SOME HON. MEMBERS : Shame, Shame ! MR. SPEAKER: I thought the office had sent it to me to announce it. I do not MR. SPEAKER : The arrest was made know. after mid-night last night. Shri P. K. Deo. SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI: The SHRI P. K.DEO : Mt. Speaker, Sir, point is that this news has come through on behalf of the Swaianfra Party, I associate Radio Pakistan and, therefore, I cannot say myself with the spontaneous and popular whether it is true or not. We should not upsurge of 75 million people of Bangla automatically take It as true because it could Desh and support their aspirations for be just propaganda. autonomy for which they got a clear mandate in elections of December, 1970. Sir, strength does not lie in words. If my colleauge Sardar Sahib has not spoken When I speak of Bangla Desh, I remem with passion, it is not due to lack of feeling ber Pakistan which is a geographical either on his part or on the part of the absurdity and the partition of the country Government but beacause of the fact that on the basis of religion which might have we are deeply conscious of the historic been accepted by the Congress to step into importance of this movement and the serjou* the shoes of the Government, But we who sness of the situation. surrendered everything, whatever our fore* fathers built, at the feet of the motherland Somethiug new had happened in East for the integration of the country cannot Bengal—a democratic action where an entire reconcile ourselves to that situation. people had spoken with almost otje voice. We had welcomed this, not because we Ia this grave moment, I remind the wanted to intetfere in another country's Government o f India to take a lesson from affairs, but, because those were the values, the follies they have made* on the illegal as one of my hon friends pointed out, for occupation of Tibet by China or on the which we have always stood and for which rape of Hungry or o« the aggress km of we have always spoken out. And wo had Czechoslovakia, and not to toe the wrongful hoped that this action would lead to a new line that they have taken in the past. They situation in our neighbouring country which should rise to the occasion and they should would help us to get closer, which would fully support the aspirations of the-peopfo help us to serve our own people better and of Bangla Desh. create an entirely new situation ia this sub* continent. As our statement Ns said, this At tlds moment, I request the Governme did *»ot happen and a wonderful opportune nt on deftaffof the Swatafctra Party to tale# for even the sttengtheaia* of Pafci#<«i has the * a * ^ opportunity to raise this question been lost and tow been iosti* « m * m sr' <*!&» <$tof*Mftit#oft*n Iltomaiit ftoiitta at the which is tragic, whfa* fe agotfsfc* m i abo-ut m m Nations aad la tjw Afro-Asian trtiWh ** ramot find strong, , fcwughword* 43 Kusfoets of t h House MARCH 27, 1971 Election to Committee 4* [Shrimati Indira Gandhi] (2) Discussion and voting on- to speak. This again is a new situation but (a) Demands for Grants on Account in a diffemt way. It is not merely the (Orissa) for 1971-72. suppression of a movement, but it is meeting an unarmed people with tanks. We are in close touch, as close touch with the events (b) Supplementary Demands for as is possible in such a situation. Grants (Orissa) for 1970-71. I am sure hon Members will understand (3) General discussion on the West that it is not possible for the Government to Bengal Budget for 1971-72. say very much more on this occasion. I would like to assure the hon Members who (4) Discussion and voting on: asked whether decisions would be taken on time, that obviously that is the most impor (a) Demands for Grants on Account tant thing to do. There it. no point in (West Bengal) 1971-72. taking a decision when the time for it is (b) Supplementary Demands for over, We are fully alive to the situation Grants (West (Bengal) 1971-72. and we shall keep constantly in touch with what is happening and what we need to do. (4A) General discussion on Mysore I agree with him also that we must not take Budget for 1971-72, merely a theoretical view. At the same time wc have to follow proper international (4B) Discussion and Voting on; norms. Various other suggestions have been made about genocidc and so on, about which (a) Demands for Grants on Account we are fully conscious and which we have (Mysore) for 1971-72. also discussed with the leaders of the Opposition. At this moment 1 can only (b) Supplementary Demands for say that we do fully share the agony, the Grants (Mysore) for 1970-71. emotions of the House and their deep concern over these developments. We have (5) Consideration and passing of the always believed that freedom is indivisible. Imports and Exports (Control) We have always raised our voice for those Amendment Bill, 1971, as passed Who have suffered, but, in a serious situation by Rajya Sabha, like this, the less we, as a Government say, I ihirfk the better it is at this moment. I (6) Consideration of any item of Govern* can assure the House that we shall keep in ment Business carried over from the close touch with the situation and also we Order Paper of 27th March, 1971, shalf keep in close touch with the leaders of the Opposition so that they can continue to (7) Discussion on the Motion of Thanks give os their suggestions and we can also on the President's Address. give them whatever knowledge we are able to. (8) Consideration and passing of the Labour Provident Fund Laws (Amend 13.00 hrs. ment) Bitt, 1971. * BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE ___ r THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT* l3 Wbr8 TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING, AND TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR); ELECTION TO COMMITTEE With youlr permission, Sir, 1 rise to announce RUBBER BoaRD that Government Business in this House during the week commencing from Monday, ’THE MINISTER. OF FOREIGN TRADE the 29th March, 1971* will consist of (SHRI L. MISHRA); I beg to move: (1) General dtoattsion on the Orissa **Tliat pursuance' of «ub'4jg»te < Budget for 1971-72. (D'ftfc Of Scciion 4 f t ^ «&**$* 45 m d D .C . on CHAJTRA 6, 1893 (SAKA) Papers Laid 46 Act, 1947,, the members of ttys Hoy$e [Mr. Deputy-Speaker. in the Chair] do pjrocc«4 to, elcct, in such manner a» the Speaker may direct, two MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Before we members from among themselves to take up further discussion of the Budget, serve as members of the Rubber there are a few more papers to be laid on Board for the term commencing from the Table. the date of election, subject to the other provisions of the said Act.’* PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE—COntd. MR. SPEAKER : The question is : aThat in pursuance or sub-section (3)(e) Proclamation Order and* Report of Scction 4 of the Rubber Act, W7, iv Rrspuci of M ysore the members of this House do proceed to elect, in such manner as (he Spea ker may direct, two members from THE MINISTER OF STATE,4N THE among themselves to serve as mem MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS, AND bers of the Rubber Borad for the MINISTER OF STATE, DEPARTMENT term commenting from the date of OF ELECTRONICS, DEPARTMENT clcction, subject to the other provi OF ATOMIC ENERGY AND DEPART sions of the said Act.” MENT OF SCIENCE AND TECHNO LOGY (SHRI K. C. PANT) : 1 beg jto lay The motion was adopted. on the Table : » (1) A copy of the Proclamation (Hindi 13.02 hrs. ' and English, versions dated the GENERAL BUDGET, 1971-72—GENFRAL 27th March, 1971 issued by the DISCUSSION AND DEMANDS FOR President under clause (I) of article GRANTS ON ACCOUNT (GENERAL)— 356 of the Constitution in relation 197!-72—icontd-) to the State of Mysore published in Notification No. G. S. R. 457 in MR. SPEAKER : At 5 P.M. the dis Gazette of India dated the 27th cussion has to close : demands will have to March, 1971, under article 356 (3) be guillotined because it has to go to Rajya of the Constitution. [Placed in Sabha immediately. There is very little Library. See No. L.T. 26/71]. time left. Wo have to pass aud transmit it to Rajya Sabha today and I hope all of (2) A copy of the Order (Hindi and us will sit for some extra time to finish English versions) dated the 27th the whole business. March, 1971, made by the President , ■ i in pursuance of sub-clause (i) of Mr, C.M, Stephen was on his legs. He clause (c) of the above Proclamation has already, taken M minutes, He has published in Notifical ion No. already taken enough time, but if he wants G.SJR. 458 in Gazette of Jadia to continue* hs may speak after teqeh. dated the 27th Inarch, 1971. [Placed iri Library. &e No. L.T. 26/71} The House stands adjourned for lunch til! I P.M.* j 13.04 hrs. (3) A copy of the Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Governor The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch till of Mysose dated the 26th March, Fourteen of the Cbck. * J97J to the President, {Placed in Library. See No. L.T. 27/713 m^iiiiw ■■ ■« ■ The Lok Sabha rt-msmbled (tfter lunch m fife triftmtes mst Fourtttm of SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (KanjHir) s tto Clock*1'" What about U.P. ? t 47 MARCH 27,1970 Mbstrt$ A im rtft (Stet.) 4* 14.07 hrs. out to tt, Now a tm tiftwe allowed m w private companies to use substandard planet STATEMENT RE. MISSING AIRCRAFT to carry passengers resulting in death of people. How Is it we are expected to keep THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE quiet over this issue 7 MINISTRY OP TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR, SAROJINI MAHISHI) : MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He is not Sir, it is with deep sorrow that I have to keeping quiet. There was a discussion about inform the House that a Jamair Dakota, VT- it in the House. ATT on a flight from Gaughati to Calcutta on 26 March 1971, has been missing since SHRI S.M. BANERJEE : No. We had about 8 P.M. last evening. The aircraft left tabled a call attention motion. Gauhati for Calcuta at 7.52 P. M. and was in contact with the ground till S P. M. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Do not link The aircraft was carrying 11 passengers and the two. She has only given information 4 crew members. It had sufficient fuel for in regard to a missing plane. five hours. The flight time from Gaughti to Calcutta for this aircraft would be approximately three hours. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : We resent these happenings. They are the out An 1AF aircraft and helicopter took off come of the wrong policy of Government at 7 O’clock this morning to search for who are taking the whole country to a crash. the missing plane. The aircraft returned What i5 happening ? We had given notice of after hours due to bad weather and the a call attention on the I A lockout. Yester helicopter after ten minutes. The missing day the Minister made a statemnt about the aircraft has not yet been located. Efforts toss of two precious lives due to the bursting to locate the missing plane are being contin of a tyre of a Boeing. These people had ued. been working round the clock. They were suffering from exhaustion and could not I shall inform the House when further read the meter, with the result that the tyre Information is available. was overinflated and it burst, killing these two precious lives. Today she comes forward on behalf of Government to tell us that It SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY passengers and 4 crew are in a misting (Kendrapara) *, I would like to know how plane. It is a shameful thing. The entire this private airlines plane was carrying responsibility has to be owned by Govern passengers, ment which is at the root of alt these trou bles in this country. SHRI S.M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : The issue of the strike in the I A has become DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI ; I would more and more important after such acci like to clarify that this accident and the I A dents. 1 pray to God that the passengers lockout are unconnected with each other. and crew will survive. But it is generally that the missing plane has wrecked SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU t Of course, somewhere. I* becomes ail the more essen they ate. tial now to settle the Indian Airlines strike. How long 'are we to depend on Jamair to DR. SAROJINI MAHSIHI: The Jamair cany our passengers 1 1t is for the Minister company has been flying planes oa behalf to s*e that; the atrike is settled expeditiously. of IA since 1966. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Why do Harbour): I want * o « y * few words, we you allow a private airline to fly substandard cannot be tbW out. T%a ottite air tram- planes? port in the cotmfcy Juts come to a stop due to the woo* jWScy Mktmed by tfce I A SHRI S. M. BANEiUEE : It i» a wttw* muMgcnent *84 O o w w w i. The wtofe lUfammt (t» k&rfwer kM ofjufe, T t*» (ft* of «lr trawl sta# & m a te ftyft fam QwhNf. rn m . and CHAITRA tm (SAM &*G> on Abet. 5» MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER ; There could absolutely necessary that the wage leave! be other occasions when these matters can also has to be held to a certain extent, and be raised* unless that is done, this huge pocess cannot be successfully proceeded with. I am sure SHRl JYOTTCMOY BOSU : They have the Indian worker is patriotic and realistic neglected Assam. enough to realise the necessity for this, but this has got to be undertaken by him as SHRl BlSWANARAYAN SHASTRI a matter of self-sacrifice and self-resftaiat. (Lakhanpur) : This is third accident during This self-restranint he will be prepared for the last one year. What is the Government only if the sacrifice is shared all round by doing about this ? every body. When the wages of the higher people are far higher and the Manager Of the staff and the Chief Executives are getting runaway wages and salaries, when there is 14.09 hr*. no restraint upon that, when the difference between the wage-earner and the highly GENERAL BUDGET, 1971-72—GENE placed people is too high, there will not be RAL DISCUSSION AND DEMANDS the psychological setting avilable where- FOR GRANTS ON ACCOUNT under they will feel induced to agree to that. (GENERAL) 1971-72—contd. My point is only this. Our approach to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Further the whole question has to be political. It discussion of the Budget (General) and has not to be merely financial. further discussion and voting on the Dem ands for Grants on Account in respect of We are now, if I may say so, at the take the Budget (General) f >r 1971-72, along with off stage, taking off to a socialist transforma the cut motions thereon. tion. For that the stage has got to be set, and the stage has got to be set with a full 1 would remind the House that the hon. surcharge of psychological implications. Speaker had announced that we have to The common Indian today is aware of his conclude this discussion and all other busi rights. He is no more in a mood of a ness relating to the Budget by 5 P. M, I supplicant asking for accommodation* He am calling the Finance Minister at about i* in the mood of a person who is cons 4. 30 P. M. or earlier So I would request cious of his rights, demanding his rights, members to be brief and to the point. not to be accommodated but to be provided his complete rights. He will not be tole Shri Stephen may continue his Speech. rant to a situation in which persons who SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : I want are not working, who do not deserve, are to speak. treated as a privileged people and are enjoying rights and privileges and conditions SHSU C. M. STEPHEN (Muvattupuzha) : of living which are far above his reach. Yesterday I was about to proceed to offer Therefore, Government has to address my comments on the provisions of the itself to this question also. Ostentatious Budget, about what appeared to me to be spending has got to be curbed. Everybody suggestion for wage freeze. I am not very must have th [Shri C.M. Stephen] may be, mvjatis mutandis, based on the reflecting the views on the other side came pattern recommended for Manipur. The qut with undisguised glee that aftflr all the ARC headed by Mr. Hanumanthaiya recom Government was going to be caught, be mended that the hill areas of Manipur may cause they would he anouncing certain be constituted into two autonomous dis proposals for mobilising resources, Let tricts fdr the Cook is and the Nagas tribajs there be no mistake as far as this is concern and if nccessary aittonomovis regions can be ed, lev there he no illusion. The resources created for smaller tribal groups and will not come like nfianna for Israel from necessary statutory provision might be made the high skies. They will have to be for this purpose in the Union Territories mopped op mercilessly from wherever they Act of 1960. are available, from wherever there is more jhan plenty. Otherwise, this huge venture The recommendation of the ARC so will not go on. ** far as it relates to the tribal belts of Tripura should be implemented without further I read a statement by the President of delay and suitable legislation should be FICCI saying that the resoujpes might be brought forward. I shall now put forth mopped up, but It should not be done so certain information to show how the pertple as to curb the galvanising of savings. I do of our State are being politically victimised not know what exectly he means by by this Government. TlUf worst type of savings. Savings need not be by big victimisation has taken place ag SHRI C. K. BHATTACHARYYA MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : What have (Giridih) : Sir, the massive mandate given these things to do with the budget 7 We to Shrinati Indira Gandhi, our leader and arc talking offhe budget now. Prime Minister, by the millions of our countrymen has underlined rhe need, as a SHRI D\SARATHA DEB : I am coming corollary, of an equally massive effort by to that. This is the way democracy is our Government planners, administraters, being developed, because this is indiscrimi people’s representatives and above all by nate arrest of our people ii taking place. the people themselves to ensure a peaceful change and to alter the picture of poverty, Another thing I want to stress is this. and to ensure growth with justice, which When the legislation for giving statehood to the Finance Minister has spoken of. In Tripura and Manipur is brought forward. I concrete terms the Finance Minister has want the Government to see that regional spelt out an estimate of 6 per cent growth autonomy for the tribal belt also finds a of Industiy. 5 5 per cent growth place in that legislation itself. in agriculture, with, of course, an increase is of 3 to 4 per *cept in price level in the year ahead. He has (proposed There is another point which I want to one job per family, which should com? to stress he^o. ip our parts, there is a certain 110 trillion jobs. Making allowance for scheduled area for tribal people, but it was the jobs hold by the members of some of very badly done. Redemarcajion of the the families, Jhe objective cannot be less scheduled areas should be mad% because than 40 to 50 million jobs. It is a stag* there are certain areas where -the tribal gering figure by any reckoning. On the people exist in very small numbers ; that basis of past performance of our economy area is kept within the scheduled area* and during (he second and third plans, on the the vast areas where there is a preponder* basis of so many imponderables interven ance of tribal population is not included in ing, on the basis of uncertainties which the the tribal talk The trouble is thau Re interlude of tndo* Pakistan war and partial garding th? tranter of land, so many non- famine brought about; distorting the trlbal people *fe also suffering. Our pictuqe, it will require a major' e ffe o n Is £ha«< demarcation should any shewing by different sections of the be made of the area« tyfctich am not .pmpoo? people. 51 G.B —Gea. Dis. m i MARCH 27,1971 DG-onAcct. St (Shri C. K. ShatndMqn] developed much faster than the poorer re gions of which the eastern region forms th e easiest out duHng tfiese situa part. tions had been eXciie duties, which Inevit ably tended to become regressive in nature and in this impact and incidence and the It is clear from the magnitude of poorer flections of the people had to foot tasks that under the canopy of macro the Fill. Now I have to draw attention to planning we have to seriously tackle the pradox of the present situation an up district-wise the issues of micro surge in agricultural production, combined planning. In Hazaribag district we could with high prices, as also slowing down of do a,lot with citrus plantations, citrus fruits industry and inflationary pressure. It is a and jack fruits. The soil is absolutly suited paradox. How do we get out of it ? We for that. We could also have soyabean have done a lot of macro-planning. 1 cultivation which would help our export. come from a region where 20 years of planning have passed by without touching But I come from one-crop area and it the fringe of the Problem or without be is definitely a very poor area. The problem coming a part of the economic life of the has been further complicated by this retren region. On the other hand, after 20 chment by owners of coal mines, by the yearn of macroplanning, 5000 of the exist troubles which the mica industry has been ing jobs in Giridth Collieries are finished facing. The mica industry was giving employ and people have been retrenched. One of ment to more than two lakhs of people. the most labour-intensive industries the Even smatl people were doing this job. mica industry has been harassed and When the question of generating employment hamed> in ter alia because of the imposition is our concern, we should have concrete of export duty during the post-devaluation schemes for self-employment for these peo days. The result has been smuggling of ple. Previously, small mica n^prchants used mica on a large scale via Nepal and loss of to have self-employment with a small revenue to the government on one hand capital of Rs. 500 to 1,000. They have been and the concentration and monopolisation of hit and most of them have been eliminated the mica export industry by a handful of as a result of the operation of the monopo people on the other, who could indulge in listic tendencies generated by the issues I and successfully do this sort of tricks. have already placed before you. The small mica mining industry has been eliminated The Finance Minister has kindly by the Mineral Concession Rules and the spoken about districtwise development. utterly impossible conditions of safety which May I submit in all respect that the districts the Mining Department is demanding. do not have the necessary data to launch that sort of development ? ft can only be on an ad hoc basis. I come from Bihar In mica mines, for instance, for digging and the data available seem to stop in a well of 45 ft., you just employ some men 1966. We have 00 district-wise data of and a well is dug. For a small mica man, development after that year. All we have if he wants to dig mica mine pit of 45 ft, is NS8 figures, National Sample Survey he has to make a monthly expenditure o f figures, whrcfc cover round by round 48 Rs 1200, All sorts of men have to be families pet district. That is a v*ry thin employed before a well of 45 ft, can be dug. ice to skate upon. So, I would humbly Because of the stracture of *he soil, no suggest to the Finance Minister that before extra problem of safety is involved, So, we meet again energetic steps be taken to these issues have to be tackled and looked have a data bank so that w* know In which into at different levels if we have to give a way we are really going. chance to small men and help the people to employ themselevs. Unto* wo do that, 4 am afraid the 10* * called am b programme might intensify fta SHRI PILOO MODY: Mr. Dqinty. regional imbalance, as the last twenty SpoOnr, Sir, to facgia wift, I w alk 1ft, years of planning has done. Not only the to tte Hows MtaMir for rich have become richer and (he poor bivta* produced a IhMfett. I to notkaaw poorer but the richer regions of fcidla have bow to dM It. 57 0 J L ~ 0 4 tO if.* rf CHAITRA 6, M ) (SAItA) D.G,on Acct. 58 AN HOR MEMBER: The Home Minis* ployment problem. Wool the Swataotra ter or the Finance Minister? Party in the last 12 years have been crying hoarse that Government thinks of planning SHRI PILOO MODY: The Home but does not think of people. Unless you Minister, X said. tackle the problem of unemployment, there is no chance of tacking any other problem. I should also congratulate Mr, Chavan With a great deal of difficulty in the last for having made a Swataotra speech in Budget, they ma4e a miserable allocation presenting his Budget and I welcome its of Rs. 25 crores. 1 regret to mention that tone, temper and content. But for a few out of Rs 25 crores to provide employment brags and boasts which he has introduced particularly through rural works, they mana in his Budget Speech for which I suspect ged to spend only Rs. 6 crores, “saving” political motives it shows reasonable consi as it were Rs 19 crores for the Government deration of the issues on hand. of India. This year, he has been extrava- gnt and bold. He has provided Rs. 50 I give you an example. He says : crores. 1 do not think your Rs 50 crores are going to solve the problem of unemploy “The economic policies of the coun ment. Neither is it going to make a dent try in the recent past have already into it nor am I completely satisfied about been given a new and bold orientation your capacity to spend it. towards growth with socUl Juseioe.” It is a fine accumulation of words. I The Finance Minister take about "a would like him to give me one example of countrywide programme of employment- this boldness. 1 do not expect that be will oriented productive works” and refers to throw the nationalisation of banks at me. them as some new and significant initiative. No figures have been given about the He also mentions about giving a “sharp number of jobs created in the last Budget focus of effectiveness", “concrete programmes nor have any figures been given about the of action*’ and "implementation with speed number of jobs he expects to cream as a and determination”. When 1 read through result of the Budget. But, then of course, the Budget estimates, 1 found that there were he has told us that he is thinking about fields in which the Government had fallen all this very seriously and that by May he fiat on its face. There is a budgetary will have an answer. expenditure allotted under various projects. For instance, on various investment in The Government is patting its own back various Government companies the budgeted the national income has increased by 5, 5% expenditure could not be realised. When last year and is predicting a similar increase they cannot realise a budgeted expenditure, for 1970-71. I think in all fairness the they call it a “saving**. Government should share the credit with God had a considerable amount to do with So you can say that in the last year, the good rains and the monsoons and the the Government “saved" Us. SO crores in good crops that He has given us in these various Government companies, about Rs. last two years. 31 crores on Bokaro, Rs, 6 crores on the second stage expansion of Bokaro. Rs. 8 ckows on fertilisers, Rs 7 crores on Hindu It is significant to note that Mr Chavan stan Copper Ltd,, Rs. 5 crores on Bharat has not dared to give figures pertaining to Aluminium Ltd. and, amongst other “savers” the average rate of growth of the economy were the Petroleum Chemical Corporation, or figures concerning the increase in the per the National Mireral Development COrp* capital income and I hope, Sir, he will be ration and even )he Food Corporation of prepared by May to give us these figures as jtpUf vpeih i welcome lor the CM time the inten* Tho Finance Minister it tkatontfty tionof the Government to tackle the unem worriedabout the production of commercial 59 GM ~~ijen. Dts. and MARCH 27,1971 on Aecl* 6D fSSthri ftloo Mody] I would like to take you to & statement crops, especially cotton and oil seeds. I that has been made in Mr. Chavan’s speech welcome it when he say* and promises which says, “ The vast potential for further support—“financial and otherwise—’’for industrial growh which has been created by the production of those commodities. I do our efforts over the past two decades can not be exploited fully/' Sir, i would like not know how he ia going to translate this support iota actual fact. to suggest a slight amendment to this sentence. It should read, ‘The vast poten tial for further industrial growth which has I remember, Sir, last year in order to been created in spite of our best efforts Snake up for the cotton shortage, the over the past two decades cannot be explotted Government promised that they would fully without bringing m a larger number of ‘‘Import Rs. 90 crow worth of cotton. At smaller people within the network of initia that time, we suggested m the House and tive and enterprise.” It is a very laudable later I went and suggested to the Prime sentence, it is garbed with so many other Minister that out of this Rs. 90 crores, why things because it mixes economic realism, does not the Government set aside only Rs. with what is socially desirable. Take the tO crores and Instead of wasting precious next sentence. It says : foreign exchange, let them pick up a few selected, really backward, tribal districts and give the necessary inputs to those poor "When larger new investments or people in those districts and within a year expansion of existing large units be will not only have recovered their Rs. 10 come necessary in the overall interest crores but also they would heve got to the of the economy, it shall be our necessary quantity of cotton. Sir, I happen endeavour to reconcile growth with to be a cotton-grower and I happen to know efficiency. soraethirtg about cotton. Therefore, I took Sir, this is leaving in the hands of Govern this initiative in informing the Prime ment certain discretionary power which is Minister that this would be a good way not very discriminatory, which is likely to be only of saving foreign exchange but also used to inctease the areas of corruption. helping the weaker sections of society and What we want is a policy. If anybody ad at the same time, getting the necessary heres to the policy, he can be given that produce that we required. But, unfortun licence ; if he does not adhere to the policy, ately, the Prime Minister was busy with he may not be given the licence. But we other things. do not want these vast discriminatory powers to be put in the hands of the Govata- A six per tent increase in industrial ment. production has been spoken about in the Budget speach. I think this is just not I would hke to make an axiomatic state enough. In the last 25 years we had several ment, and I am prepared to read it at years in which we have done considerably dictating speed, so that Mr. Chavan might better and I think it should be possible to consider it and realise how these economic mcrea** the industrial development and problems might be tackled. production by at least double that amount. The industrial production in this country "Production is the key to the eradication should be growing at a steady rate of some* of poverty and providing employment is the thing like 12 to 15 per cerit. best method Of distributing wealth**. If only Mr. Chavan could realise the eternal The Finance Minister has bragged that verity this, we Could ihake woaderful mote licence* had been issued in 1970 than progress in this country. in Sthe previous year/ I think even he is eftib&rras&d tfith the statement because we In paragraphs 14 and 15 he display! a all know the reason why (here licences 4fere certain modicum of understanding of fiscal hurriedly issued all of a sudden at the end matters. But he does not give any indica of hot year eo that the elections oould be tion of economic, bat also political. You hbva to where can mobilise resources. Take the do #w$y with difuil fiaaacjag. public sector. On a conservative estimate, This is first. Then yoa have to over-import it should be yieldtng him aoywtore from raw materials which are in very great shor Rs. 500 crores to Rs. 80D crores a year tage. And then you h*ve to restrict yoyr which he <*aa plough back into the greed oa excise duties and other duties. economy. Here is where he {Shri PilooMody] f a m * m | t w m r # 1 i t Please teU mo how raany minutes were T O $ *HT WwRT *5T IfT W fltt I W permitted to me ? w r w l 1 w e m x t w i n t ft? MR. DEPtTTY-SPEAKBR: There is no wtiwm wt'Zm m $ i m time fixed; he ha* taken enough time W Vf?l“ jp$ 3R«ff*TR ^ jp r o j f%ffT *T TO3T I I WW $mmV9TT W T O # SUM PILOO MODY : If thete 1$ no time fixed, then there his to be tome | «fs$^r w ti discretion...... w v t ^rorvr fw fiw r MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Order, fatrr 1 ^ srt frmtyrm please. ffarr | ^ ^ft^rr SHRl PILOO MODY : Order of what 1 1 fa te fr4-«m«rr ^nrt *rftar «fk sort ? Why do you not maintain some order -- - -■ ... ,j^_ ._ .... - —^. ---<\.. when 1 am speaking ? Will you teU me how tWTTOT 5T«Tr «Tmt«T?r 5^f>T m tfHTr TO? many minutes I am permitted ? 1 cannot qft src 1 1 m come hem prepared to speak for an unlimited •mount of time* 1 am just asking this by farq w % **rt w r r 1 way of clarification. s i t ^ t % ^ arr^T | fwr *r$ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The hon. v t 1 1 jn ^ r *rr fr^n: W Member has taken about 11 minutes whereas many bigger parties have taken only 10 M *Tt STfr TOaT | I minutes each. «wwr%^?w r sntnw t ? r | i ^ r SHRl PILOO MODY : If you teU me w t o 'tt fawrc wmwwnl how many minutes I am entitled to, then Pf> w r *f4-S f i wr f fa $*r ^ *r£fezr apy fmrf^r v w f Pp %% wr * r *>r sf**sr s*r % *3*mnr *$f gm 1 1 **r% W Pf» ^ qrC v WW TWm W$mFb *Wf % ^*r $srft to ff sftr [S h i S.A. Sharaim] into as 4o what exactly we m m do*ftg to Another charge against the State is that Kashmir, If we treat the BSP and the if enjoying a special status. It is enjoy rag CRP as an industry* at least let os ration* a special status in the cense that the State alise this industry. So, my request wilt be: has had no free elections during the last 24 special status, yes, but special status which ycat% Another especial status is that the can bring benefits to Kashmir. tt should nbt State Government has been empowered to be specialised by a few individuals who ate pass Preventive Detention Acts and other darlings of some one or other. Security Acts where by they can detain people for two years without any enquiry, without giving them grounds. Thirdly, The problem of educated unemployed when a Commission of inquiry declares a in Kashmir is assuming dangerous propor particular gentleman to be accused, to be tions. The vally is isolated from the rest charged with having misused funds, that of the country. The result is that the particular gentleman becomes the cong educated youth do not find ways and means ress candidate for that particular of getting out of the valley and the atmos constituency. It is interesting to know phere in thfe country is not sufficiently that the former Chief Minister who is dis conductive to encourage them to come out. qualified for standing to the Assembly Something has to be done. Some Central election is quali6ed for standing for Parlia projects which are employment oriented mentary election and representing the Parlia should be started in Kashmir. We are mentary constituency. I am one of those who starting television and other projects. Some supports special status' for Kashmir, but thing which would give employment to the not this special status which the Central educated youth, to our technicians, to our Government has given. engineers has to be started, but no such thing is being done. I would make a I would request two probes to be made. special request to the hon. Finance Minister First it about what has happened to the that he looks into the matter. He should money which has been pumped into Kashmir rise above patty party or political consi even at the cost of the tax-payer in the deration. He should give Kashmir a rest of the country, whether this money decent life, a clean administration and a has been properly utilised and whether cleaner political set-up. it is not going to certain corpo rations , In Great Britain they have got the BBC—British Broadcasting Corporation, : J1K- In our part of the country we have also a BBC—Bakshi Brothers Corporation. Let sfor 4 stor % ssr us see that, when this corporation has «ifta TTtmrr $ artf already misused so much of money, more money is not in any way given to another swwr towr qfV 11 ^ m corporation, whether it is the Sadtq or the «an?r % gw frapr" v f tftx Kasim Corporation. wrefira w n *i??rr | «ft tor % MR. DJEPUTV-SPEAKER : The hon. strc n efr ir* J i «s*w % WH>»ri n f v f , fg t yflVi s* ? i *H( otw* <$'* f o m « i9 w i w * t n « r n f a ¥ wfira <# t, l»rr& w c ^ * jt Pr^fT jsrr s%»r 11 aw WIT *T Mmmm «MMmm ...... _J9^ m vt w i w^wnr ^w# w $ w qra ^ , ^ v r t q f ^t¥t swrc *w wm fm m( i *w m ^ r *ft gfir«rif ftraf, gtewf W ®r % qftf 4w *TTf®rr *r$r $>rr, rftfWr ^ t o r t h f*utT amnftffPp 'Tffsm’f % f«roT f i «t ?5k iMWf vt w i?iir^1 w toti 1 1 3 WHwr*sfcnr, srmr Wr $ *tf l«rrt «r?t n « r »> firorf « r %f«w *nfe3r # t, fa*r *ft [»lPlai WgKtWff TF&J tow mitefliM r w fim t, 35T V t TrtPTTT it# fim sft | l W t , f^C V T 1 1 «hr %. iff wta Sft tw w m , aft irrcr f ^ r f ^ tr » %m ^ r r %?re f i % v t f | DKrnft, ?* ^ * m * f r f a r f iw | m W TWff^ 5*T n STFT *PT m T #w | *ff % fsn% |, if fer fw ^ far^T^’ i $ w m 5f%ff, 5J%9T *frr OTT sr^ir * * t# | f a m 5*r % fW T&stf 5n^cff 3f w $ f ^ r 3tt% » m k TOftrH m % fRRr fw?rr ^rr tor | ? inn: ^ rt wr i t o t | i sfta §*r ?t f^*T sr^ft Jr OTf^rr s> T O r^r?rt ?*rvt nmRH forr |, forft jt ^ ^ H T t ?nft ^Tcft i %f%*r ftprr ^ft ^ v m ®ft t t ^ t ? # R t anrr | f^ wryiftT ^ m t 1 1 ?ft r* % . -a. *>-»i. *v a_, _*>-■■ ^ ^ 3fnf«T H^U» •n* t^RTSi | f^r to tVt ^ f^^nr ^r t^ ^ if iffiRFtsrw n^n 11 vrRvf ?t ^ f t < % f W t a w % fim nf f t?r% ftp* «w« t o sm% fa^RT «Ft fe rr | *frET {fto! ’r r f ^ | w^t ^ sr%wr t toT 1 1 tfV Tisnaff % srhftro % t o ^ t W 'STTcTT | 1 1 ^!t s s r o r t . ?w «*iw r w r ^ 1% 1 1 | ? ... ( w w r ) ...... # rrsrm f & srpfar **ft j}— a m * *r, im »r, * m S r t m r * f t r v f s % $ m ^r srmr *r*cft | fap T T « n w ft w fij | art »m ^ ftr I wish to know one thing from did boa. Finance Minister. He has said that there is stfte-ahrt ^ **trfwr t o t mfo a deficit to the tune of Rs. 230 crores fc the gpfm*V^$ s%i $T<$*srer interim vote on Account Budget. If that ie so, in may, when he will present a full- t ifa: o t t firtrtf %% t o fledged Budget, there wMl he nearly Rs. 800 $ ott *arr% t o t raTtft ‘jtf* crores deficit. I would like to know whether he is going to mint the money from the $ ^ faWr i Nasik printing press or whether he it going to put burden of taxes on the cornmoa SHRl C. CHITTIBABU (Chingleput) : people, I put this questions to the bon. Sir, within the five or six minutes at Finance Minister and I want him to reply my disposal 1 cannot make a full speach to that, oa the 1971*72 Interim Budget. So, within In some statement, I have seen that the limited time I would like to ask some about Rs. 400 crores of income-tax has been questions and seek some clarifications so evaded. I want to know what kind of that tho Finance Minister may categorically action the Finance Ministry has taken to reply to those points. stop this evasion and collect the money. I wish to give another example. If we The Finance Minister has sattcd in his have local committees, consisting of local budget speach that during this year there citrons in different regions, then they can will be scarcity in cotton and oilseeds. I help the Income-tax officeis in telling that want to know what steps he proposes to take these people have looted money and that to meet this difficulty. these people are corrupt. If the Finance Minister is very much interested in wiping out the deficit, he can have the zonal commi Secondly, he has stated that all the ttees with ordinary citizens of the local area money should not be accumulated with one to find out who have become newly rich and person. In this connection, 1 would like the Income-Tax Officers can collect the to ask him one question. Just before the money, the tax evaded by these rich men. election the Central Government issued a I wish to ask another thing from the lot of licences to so many existing private Finance Minister. He has said that the compaines. Will it not have the effect of State Government should not ask for concentration of money in a few hands ? 1 overdrafts from the Resreve Bank. I wish hope he wilt clarify the position. to inform the Finance Minister that when the States are getting money from the Every year, our Finance Minister says Centre at the end of March, in the middle that he will reduce the price. For the last of the year they ate unable to cope up with four years, ! have heard the same thing the estimated things. Due to that reason, from Finance Ministers. Now also the they are asking the Reserve Bank to give same thing has been told by the present overdrafts. If the Finance Minister is Finance Minister. I wish to know that kind keen on that, he must distribute the amount of attitude he is having to safeguard the due to them every three months. Then price* from rising. it will be easy for the State Governments and they will not go to the Reserve Bank I wish to give one example. If we seeking overdrafts from them. produce snore, automatically, the price I wish to inform the Finance Minister will not go up. For that reason, we must of another thing. We have nationalised the help the farmers by giving them SO percent Banks. But who are the Custodians in the rebate on fertilisers, 50 percent rebate on banks t The Custodians are anti-social ole~ electricity, which they use for farming pur ments. I know the Custodians are not help' poses, This kind of help should be given ing the poor. They say ' 'you bring same to the farmer* to proudce mere, Xf the signature from such and such people or Finance Minister is interested he can do bring them here.” They are sot hoping poor. It within bis period, of Finance Minister- For that season, I would request the Finance *ip. Minister 'to consider immediately to clear I 19 a%+~Gemmdnd MARCH 21,1971 n .G ,o * A c d . 8* {Shri C CfeHtitoM pcpM 7 Our taxation rates *i» very tytyh# awiiy the Custodians from the Banks and One cannot get enormously'rich after paying have some genuine pw »oi to help the poor the taxes if he pays them honestly. It is people, like fawners and the 00x0100 people. because they have evaded times, Not only' they have evaded income tax, they have sto 1 say that the Centre-State relations len sales tax which is not their property but should be like that of partners marching the property of the Government. They have handinhand. For that reason, the accumu stolen excise duty which is payable to the lated -power in the Centre should be distri Government. They collect iton behalf of the buted >t» the States. 1 request the bon. Government but steal it. That is how the Finance Minister to give, first as an exam black money has grown and now, 1 find, of ple, the Central Sales Tex to the State course, there is a good intention in the Government. Sir, in the railways we are President’s speech as well as in the speech of levying a travelling cess. That bhould be the Finance Minister that we are going to given to the State. Like that, if our Finance eradicate unemployment and we are going to Minister is wilting to help the States and eradicate poverty and economic disparities removes the regional imbalances, he must between the poor and the rich. But we have come forward to allot the abovesaid texes to take very radical steps and see that these to the States to iraporve their finances. richer people who are much more cunning Finally! 1 wish our Finance Minister are not allowed to have their own way. should continue in that office for some They corrupt the officials. 1 am forced to more years and he should bring a very good say a few words unfortunately about our budget for the people in the month of May officials. These ICS officers were trained by as we have told in the just ended Elections the British. The Britishers trained them to that the X> M K and the Indira Gandhi sene their own interests. They were told, Congress would join together and satd on ‘You are not to care for your own country!. the platforms in Tamil Nadu that we would Th'iy were trained in that manner That is do this and that. wh / we find ihey have taken bribe from these capitalists. The capitalists could pur; SHRl JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond chase them. They do not have any national Harbour) : What a mistake you have made. spun. If they Ir.d any national spirit, the capitalists could not have purchased them SHRI C. CHITTIBABU : Certainly* we and grown richer lay by day. Sir, 1 am will help the Central Government even though glad that the intt it ion of the Government they enjoy two-thirds majority m this is good, but we h ve to find out proper offi House. They must come forward firmly cial). We should try to entrust the respon With a Bill to amend the Constitution 10 sibility of collecti< n of taxes and implement- remove obstructions that stand in the way aticn of the pros *ammes to those officials of improving the lot of our poor people. who really believ< in socialism. 1 can tell you that most of t1 ese officers are Swant rites. Thank you, Sir. You can see for y- >urseives that after retire SHU! P. K. GHOSH (Ranchi) : While ment many of th^se officers go and join the 1 p\u forward my comment on the Finance Swdtantra Party and other capitalist Par Minister's speech and on the Budget, 1 want ties. . to put before you the national picture that has emerged after 24 years of Independence. How can wc» expect these people to Sir, it is not enough to say that the rich establish socialisri m this country t We have become richer and tb$ poor have be should not depent upon officeres for im come poorer, tJ must say that the rich have plementing our gt aI We should try to find grown enormously rich and the poor, pooter other people, ft s will have to put a check and the middle class people, the cream of on their activities the society and the intelligentsia have become destitute, * 3ir, this is the picture which has Some more tsws are coming forth iit enaeKged 6fi4r 24 years of freedom. your May Budget. I request the Ministtfr : You should not impose any further indlrat Wfcy has it been 90 ? How did th* rich taxes which will hit die common nan, If gn>w enormously wljhin (bit short at all u is to b* increased, It should be m 4 <1 G-B.—^Sen. tHs. met CHAITRA«, IMS iSAKA) , D.G. K, Shorf}. $«rt b m r 1 1 « m m k m v q f motittbed tad tint (be black mon«jr Is taken out of these people and is utilised far eradicating poverty, for creating jobs for the t o t f r m z x w m k fair to t 1 1 educated unemployed and the middle class people* I ato glad that Government have ^ vrcr«rrc]f t f far fcsrn* t f tfftrar nff proposed to take up employment-oriented tf Sltf J i schemes. s tr ic t *rnr *pnotr¥ tf fiw snft You will see that we have indicated certain weaknesses also. We have not said that • V t ^ f I WTC *tf* everything is welt. wwwrtf % f tf in i gfinrrif Particularly when discussing the question ^ m W I ’f^PTT I of agriculture, we have said that our basic weakness today is in the area of tbe com SHRI YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN: mercial crops, particularly cotton and oil Mr. Deputy-Speaker, we have had for seeds. Some Member did ask me the the last 5-6 hours very usefiii and construc question as to what exactly we propose to tive speeches made on the budget speech t do about it. What we can do in this delivered here. Even from the unexpected matter is to apply the results of the scientific corner of the Congress (0), their leader, Shri research * made in the agricultural research C. C, Besai, spoke not merely in a construc centres and introduce new varieties of cotton tive language, but, I must say, in very seeds and oilseeds. That is the most impor admirable language, and very humble tant thing that will have to be done, i can1 language paying tributes to the leader of our assure the hon. House that in order to party, Shrimati Indira Oandhi. That only make these new efforts in the scientific field shows that some sort of realism has dawned and apply these scientific methods for on all political parties after the elections. It increasing the productivity of cotton and is a good thing. Even the spokes oilseeds, no financial difficulty will be man of the CPI (M), though calling it a pleaded. 1 have no doubt in this matter capitalist budget, did actually concede some because it is in the agricultural field that we of the points made in it, though he did have to achieve the most important break criticise some other aspects of it. The through. Swatantra member called it a swatantra budget and went on criticising as if it was Discussing the question of price*, Shri a communist budget. So, it only showed Virendra Agarwal, Who is a known writer that the approach indicates certain new com on economic problems, said that I Just mitments. As it is a vote on account, it tried to hide myself behind the explanation continues practically the same provisions that the world prices were also rising. I did except for the arrangements that we have make mention about the trend of world made for the Slates. For the next year we prices, but it was not to defend the rise in have added the Central assistance to the prices in India. I merely indicated the fact State Governments on the basis of the discu of the inflationary trends that are asserting ssions that we had with them. Except that themselves in the world economy, and practically it is on the same basis and mostly naturally those trends are affecting us also, the taxes are on the same basis. In the we being a part of the world economy. light of tho new and fresh mandate of the people I have said in the Budget speech that we would like to reorient our approa In order to stabilise the price, what has ches in certain directions, re-assess the situa to be done 1 You cannot merely do one tion and reformulate policies in certain res thing and say that you will stabilise the pects. This is the basic thing, and in the prices. We Will have to make an effort light Of this, the commitments and the on both the fronts of demand and mandate, we have given some sort of a supply. In order to make the effort on the review of tbe economic situation as it exists front of supply , wherever there are shortages today. We have indicated the strength of of important raw materials needed Cor tbe economy and also the weaknesses of the industrial production, we have’ tried to economy. We have not tried to copceal the - increase imports, as for example in cotton. weaknesses. Out efforts in the ye^s to come will be to further strengthen the strong In [Shri Yashw*ntrao Chavan] 4 market In the coming months’it will have to Deehmukh, made a reference to the decline be supplemented by imports. Certainly it te cotton prices. But there was uprecedented can be done. My main point is that if we t m hi December, 1910, so much so that want to attack the prices, the attack has to tfttte was such a scare in the industry. be many pronged. Vi» had to take cortain steps, beacuse an artiffcial scare was created that there was 1 referred to this question in the last going to be a severe shortage of raw cotton Lok Sabba and people may wonder whether and there was fear pf closure of mills it is not a hackneyed argument. I must say and so oo. So there was rise in cotton that we are taking necessary steps in this prims and naturally Government had to field and I have no doubt that these will have •lap in with their fiscal and monetary healthy impact on prices, so that if at all to step up powers to, see that the prices prices rise, they will be within accepted were controlled. What I am sugges limits, that is, two or three per cent. Really ting is that in dealing with the price front speakmg, you cannot say that there will be the efforts have to be manifold. We have no rise in prices in a developing economy ; to make efforts in the field of production. prices cannot be frozen. It would mean Unless we intensify efforts at production of that the economy also would remain frozen. commercial raw materials, I do not think we am going to find an answer to this I was trying to see things in their per question. At the same time we have to spective. What is the perspective ? Some follow certain fiscal policies very Members like Pi loo Mody say : you are vigilantly. There was larger credit talking in terms of abolishing poverty ; supply during last one year and the what were you doing during the last 24 Reserve Bank raised the rate of interest years ? It is a very common place argu from 5 to 6 per cent. Some persons referred ment heard many times in the last general to M as a political move. Later on it was elections also. Really speaking, we were found that it was having a healthy effect on preparing for this w.tr against poverty. the prices. We can see what effect produc You cannot start a war against poverty tion has on the level of prices. Take the without the necessary weapons for it. The typical examp'e of foodgrains. There has necessary weapon for fighting the poverty is been a rise in the production of what in the to create the necessary infra structure in th* country. Some people say that there was country. That is exacclv what we have done n revolution in the production of wheat. Some people refer to it as a green revolution; in the last 23 ye.irs Oir policy has nut failed. Our policies >nve tielped us to create do not use that word ; there has not yet the necessary infra-s nicture. been a green levolutioo ; we are yet to have a breakthrough in many sectors of agricul ture. la the case of wheat I concede that 16.00 hrs. them has been soase sort of a revolution Now, it is a fashion for some Membere and it >haa had its effect on the price level. to goon criticising the public sector. There I do not want to burden the House with the are certainly some weaknesses and limita fip m that I have. There is a general tions in the public sector. We own them. tttnd of fall in the price of wheat. The But I would like to say that we are going to poeeai index pf overall food cereals has be more active to see that theee defects gone down as a remit of the fall in the price are removed, and removed very firmly and Of WWW* quickly. But there is no doubt that one of the Sbme DtNBbed raised the question of sew sources of strength in our economy rictf* In spine States the price of rice is is the very welMaid-out >aee for the pubito somewhat high but compared to last year it sector in the country. Whether they hswoiw is adt high, tft some States It is lower than losses or profits to the country is diflb* last year. rent msftter. There are a number of pubtje t*gft* that in certain (States they are eeotor enterprises which are eftraing profits* not tower *han whjtt ffeey’ were ‘last year. I admit there are oenafn important public Evwitbeiariceis available & "the mfttibet. sector unite which areloatog. m the same time, a* fa* a* eicfcaijge «***/ Q i course If there is shortage of ift fee > » m * c e m > chaitra «, im (&iK4)% tag is concerned, & fc tocrm tofi from year to emphasise tits growth of the economy. to y m though there may t» certain Certainly we do stand for the growth of losses. ThU is doe of tiie most important the economy. Who says we do not stand weapons - ! would call it a wcapoa-io the for the growth of the economy ? Tne growth hands of the country, in the hands of the of economy, does not come out of prayer masses, in the hands of the common mao, merely in order to have growth in the eco to fight the war against poverty. This is the nomy, we have to raise resources. You most important thiag that we have achieved. cannot say that you go on merely praying We have diversified the industries. We have for the growth and ‘’there wilt be growth/* created a new class of technicians in the There was God who said “ Let there he country. The wider and deeper base of educa- water,'* and there was water, f do not lion ; and the technical education, for exam* think there is any God to whom Shri Piloo pie, has given a new strength. We have Mody can pray, “Let there be growth” and built up a new base of agriculture in the who will see that there Will be growth. country. A country like India has had agriculture as the sheet anchor of its eco nomy from mmemoriai times, but it is In order to have growth, we have to create resources, and certainly resources can only within the last 25 years that we can say be found ou> in different ways. Now, our that we have built a modem base for the problem certainly is that not only we want to growth of industrial economy m this have economic growth, we want to have country. growth so oreinted that it can help us to attack the problem of unemployment which These are three important weapons in tis our most important problem. the hands of any country which wants so fight the war against poverty. Now, with readiness, with three weapons, with the base t quite agree that Government cannot of modern agriculture, with the base of give Jobs to everybody. Government must public sector and a well-trained, technically create a dynamic economy so that jobs are oriented personnel, I think we are now created for the young, educated people. ready, we are poised to fight the waragainst These are not controversial things. But for poverty. that matter, certain efforts will have to be made ; certain priorities wilt have to I was answering the question of Shri be fixed ; certain new approaches will have Piloo Mody. He has come at the end of to be adopted. This is exactly what m it. He was asking me what exactly wc have propose to do. done in the last 23 years, I say we have boon preparing our»dves to fight the war Some non. Members chose to attack the against poverty. 1 have no doubt that we quantum of provision that we have indicated wtll succeed in tlus task. 1 do not take a in my budget speech, viz. Rs. SO crores for cynical view that, he task ; he thinks every solving the problem of unemployment, tt thing is bad ; everyooJy is bad ; everything is not our claim that only by an investment is going wrong. of Rs. 50 crores we are going to remove unemployment. It will be very naive to SHRI S. M. KRISHANA (Mandya) say so. It is merely a beginning, some himself: sort of a pilot scheme or experiment. We are trying to approach the problem by SHRI YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN: Yes creating productive rural development work except himself ; 2 am glad you have said it. in some of the poverty pockets in different Ebat |s the difficulty with some of these parts of the Country aod we at€ trying to see that we succeed in it. We will gain good, noople. They are good people, but much experience out of it. Some Member they join do not see wb« exactly is wrong said you are going to make harfty to wife the*. somebody. No ; It is not charity. €ertai> nly those poverty pocket areas am untoMed » Itolififa* pMQMctiv* I MU puttfaf by developmental InfiraswiKaoms dial mm Mfc* ****■/«<»»* m *» <*»> necessary, now we will pmvide those « mstce m, tm MARCH 27,1971 Pinanee m W 1 » ISM Yasbwantrao Chava*} rest in this matter. The* Planning Commfs- infrastructures than. For ttuit certainly sion also has tried to' look at the question tome educated people will be required. and in the plan itself this question lias been dealt with. As a result of that, a new app-' roaCh has been adopted in this matter. We Some turn, member said, we have tried have now critain criteria to decide which to underplay the question of rural are the backward areas. Certain districts unemployment. It is quite the contrary. from each State have been selected and When we speak of the question of unemplo named as backward areas and special efforts yment, really speaking in the major sector have been made as far as industrialisation of our society, it is the young uneducated is concerned^ Certain incentives have been man who is before our eyes. This party is indicated. particularly grateful to the younger generation of this nation, because it is only with their support that we are here in this House in SHRI PILOO MODY : It is not working such numbers, and we shall not forget their properly. problems. We shall always keep them in Many efforts will have to be made and mind we have already made a beginning. We SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN ; have introduced a certain new approach in That is going into the details. For that, that direction. Employment-oriented schemes we will have to seek the coopeiation of the have been introduced in certain educational State Governments, 1 am talking about institutions. Some engineers have been so the new approach that has been adopted. In trained that they can get immediate employ the case of certain financially needy States, ment. Of course, we will have to re-examine some special arrangements have been made. the whole thing again after some time. I have mentioned certain figures in my Indeed, I was expecting certain speech. Nearly Rs 175 crores were provided. specific suggestions in this regard. As far Actually more than lhat was spent as a as the approach is concerned, we have a result of floods* scarcity conditions, etc. common approach, but I wanted certain We have continued a tapcrmg provision for specific suggestions., X would welcome such the next year also. It is not that backward suggestions even now. Mr Mody has cert States are forgotten. ainly got some experience. 1 have nothing to do with his politics. His politics is I will mention another aspect of regional defeated polities and I am not worried imbalances The financial institutions them about it. But 1 do care for his experience selves have taken a new attitude in this matter. in industry. He has got very good experience They have decided that in the case of in farming also. I am glad he chose to backward areas they will give certain enter politics, as a result of which he has incentives to those who want to go and come into contact with farming and he has establish industries in those areas. So, made some good experiments. I want there 'is a new appro ich to the question of certain useful suggestions from him. regional imbalance. SHRl 8.M. BANBRJBB (Kanpur) : He ba* taarvwted hit own party. At the same time, the States concerned must also take care of those regions which are backward. For instance., there seems to SHm YESHtyANTRAO CHAVAN : I be a misunderstanding. The hon. Lady think you are tfght. Realty speaking, we Member said that 1 come from a rich can Jook at the problem In a very construc State. In dur State there is a rich city tive moaner* tf called Bombay but the Stale itself is qot rich. There are large pockets of backward Th» question was twtoed about regional aribas which are steeped )n poverty.' So imbalances. u is a very important question the States concerned also have to lotfk into Tfeitjbat *!be«a «e$ftgajed not only now* \ this problem. 1 have no doUbt that with think during the iast two or three .years, toe thin m m » S approach the question t f ttiiin w liM inlf >ha< ioV*n itfuin 1®vvTJi !*»*» Hifcftlftft* wM n G.m. arm CHAITRA «, i m {SAKA) D. (7. of* Am* H Bat f do sot say that It eaa be solved ia a Pumping stations and tube-Wells am day or two, Some coordinated, continuous, tome of the illustration* of minor irrigation. intensive efforts wilt have to be made for a Huge amounts *re invested on this parti deoade or so, so that we can say that we have cular programme In practically all the States. made some impact. So, it is not correct to say that minor irri gation is neglected. At last, that is not the SHRI PILOO MODY: What about approach of the Central Government or the minor irrigation ? Planning Commission. If the hon. Member feels or faces any difficulty in any part of his constituency, he may let us know about SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : I it. * have no detailed figures. I can say from t * my personal experience that in recent years, My hon. friend, Shri Stephen made k in the last two or three years, greater empha grievance about the fact that the word sis has been laid on minor irrigation, "socialism" was not mentioned in the because, major irrigation schemes take budget. I oan assure him that even though longer years for completion and they also the word “socialism” was not there the get involved in tribunals. Shri C. C. Desai content of socialism was there. referred to the Narmada project. He made a grievance of having referred the dispute SHRI PILOO MODY: You may tell to the tribunal. Really speaking, for a him that you are using some modern decade or so the Government of India pur language. sued a policy of not referring the matter to the tribunal for two reasons ; firstly, it is S*!Rl YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: time-consuming and, secondly, it is not He is a valued colleague of mine and when right that States should try to litigate be makes a point I should make a reference against each other before a judicial forum. to k in my reply. I could see his point. The We certainly waited for a long time for the entire thrust of the budget speech is an attack States themselves to come to an understand on unemployment, attack on disparities in ing. When that failed, we ultimately resor the society and prevention of concentration ted to the tribunal so that we could at least of economic wealth. 1 think that is socialism. get a solution. Shri Desai suggested that Is it not ? What matters is not the word the issue should be withdrawn from the tri ‘socialism* but the content. Certainly, if bunal. 1 do appreciate and share his it is necessary, we can use it two dozen anxiety, the anxiety of Gujarat and also the times but what is really more important is , anxiety of Madhya Pradesh. the content of socialism and as I was covering the entire economic field I did not use that word. There was no other inten AN HON. MCMBGR : And also Maha tion or motive behind it. Labels are no rashtra. doubt importaht because some of these are symbolic words which characterise our appro SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : ach to the problem. Therefore, I do not Maharashtra has only a marginal interest. not underestimate the importance of what he I wish this dispute is settled as quickly as says 1 merely tried to explain what I had in possible. But having referred the matter my mind when the speech was * made. 1 to ’ a tribunal, it is not so simple a matter have tried to make a reference to some of to ^jjhdraw the dispute from the tribunal ; the general problems that were mentioned, unless the States concerned themselves come to a concrete understanding and then make Some hon. Member, perhaps, Mr. Ste an appeal to the tribunal or the government. phen, made a reference to the Cochin ship Then the position would be different. My yard. 1 have got certain facts. If he wants I only point is that major irrigation schemes can give details of it. But I do not want to so&etuaet 'r do Create' problems Therefore, take the time of the House. According to the the State Governments, the Central Govern persent schedule of time, the contract Which ment and the Planning Commission have has been entered into with some firm will be laid wqphaiiton raedtym and completed within five years from December, ..igfottop' *cfaem»«, m an *»rttai)wly 1970 Oswalds. I think, the ptogr^mme is M k iii sdiemes.i f 1PM W BmwWIP* going according to schedule. So far, about jWf G* Uvt-Gett, 0i$. MARCH 27, H971 91 tShri Yeshwantrao Chavan] yoti ask me whether it can or It wotdd nr jit R*, 2 crores have been spout. Certain preli should, it is a question of administrative as minary work has been done. He feels that sessment and judgment. I cannot say rattling is being done. Certain things me categorically about it. if it is nacessafy and essential to do the work. For example, you if it is decided to do that, certainly, it can. have to have the network of roads and foc that yew have to acquire land. You MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I put all the know how much time is taken in the land cut motions moved by Shri Ram Avtar acquisition proceedings and ail that. Those Shastri to the vote of the House. things axe being done. I am glad he made a mention of it so that the Ministry concer Alt the cut motions were put and negatived. ned, the officers concerned, will be up on their toes to see that there is no relaxation MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now, the itt the woric. question is : Some hon. Members mentioned specific ‘'That the respective sums not problems about their States and some of the exceeding the amounts shown in the political aspects. 1 do rot think I should third column of the order paper, be take note of those political aspects. I can granted to the President, on account, only assure the hon. Members that our com for or towards defraying the charges mitments to the people are there and our during the year ending the 31st day of determination to stand by our commitments March, 1972, in respect of the beads >s there. I know that the problems are com of demands entered in the second plex and the solutions are not easy. But the column t hereof against Demands only thing that we can say is that this Nos. 1 to 142,” Government will not spare any efforts to achieve those objectives. That is all t can The Motion was adopted. say. 81011MADHU DANDAVATE (Rajapur) | [The Motions fo r Detnands fo r Grants I had made a suggestion for widening the which were adopted by the Lok Sabha. scopeof the Cotton Corporation. What are reproduced beh* Ed] about that ? DEMAND NO. I : MINIS fRY OF DEPfiNCB ‘ SHRI YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN ; I will explain it in a minute. As I said* there are “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. many specific measures and one of them is 40.60.000 be granted to the President, on the Cotton Corporation. The Cotton Cor account, for or towards defraying the poration was established in the middle of changes during the year ending on the 31st 1970. It has already started its work. It day of March. 1972, in respect of Ministry has undertaken to import cotton. It has, at of Defence’.” the lame time, undertaken to purchase cot ton for certain private enterprises also, about Demand No. 2: Defence Services EmcTIVS-ARMY h^lf a dozen of them. I think, it is essenti ilk al that they get certain experience and deve lop confidence in this field. Then, as ex "That a sum not exceeding Ra. perience grows, the scope of it will grow. It 25.33.000 be granted to the President, W has taken birth and it has now started account, for or towards dfcfrayittf the growing well. Let it grow well and it* scope charges during th$ year ending On the 31st wtt Jget^ widened. day of March, 1972, in respect Of Defence Services, BffecUve-Armys*." SHRI K.G. BBSKMUICH (Amravati) : About the Cotton Corporation, may I know Dbmand No . 3 : Defbnos S g tv im , whether It is possible for the Cotton Cor- Bm c TIVB*NaVY Iteration to purchase indigenous cotton f#om neat year? a sum not wceedmg H k X9,1i, SHRt YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN iU 33,000 be granted to the 97 & * ~ 6 g tf . ZFfc. md CKAITRA ^f Vm (SAKA) B. G.mjkcl W deoomu far or towards defraying the account, for or towards defraying the eWuv charges during theycarendtag on the 31st ges durmg the year ending on the list day day of March, 1072, in respoct *& 'Defence Of March, 1972, frr respect of ‘Survey of Services, Effect ivo*Navy\” India’.’* t DEMAND NO. 10 « OTHER REVENUE DEMAND NO* 4 i DEFENCE SERVICES, EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OP BFFSCTJVB'iMR EORCJB EDUCATION AND YOUTH SERVICES “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 81,65,00,000 be granted to the President, on “That a 'tom not exceeding &s. account* for or towards defraying the 1,62,15,000 be granted to the President, on charges during the year ending on the 31st account, for or towards defraying the char* day of March, 1972, tn respect of ‘Defence ges during the year ending on the 31« day Services, Effective-Air Force’.” of March, 1972, in respect of Other R S$9MANB N o. is : UNION B£CJSB DUTDBS for or towards defraying the cbatpes during the year ending on the 31st day of March, “That a cum not exceeding Rs. 6,36,30 1972, in nppeet of Kolar Gold ‘MtaaV* ooO bo granted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying the charges DEMAND No. 22 : PENSIONS AND OTHER during the year ending on the 31st day of RETIREMENT BENEFITS Maeeh, 1972* in Defect of 'Union Excise Dutfe*’.” “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,15,63, 000 be granted to the President, on account, dem and No . i $+—»taxbs on income for or towards defraying the charges during INCLUDING CORPORATION TAX ETC. the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of * Pensions and Other “Thai a turn not exceeding Rs. 6,68,70, Retirement Benefits*/* 090 be grafted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying the charges during DEMAND No. 23 : OPIUM FACTORIES the year coding on the 31st day of March, AND ALKALOID WORKS 1972* in respect of ‘Taxes on Income includ ing Corporation Tax etc’,” “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 6,14,73, 000 be granted to the President, on accountf DEMAND NO. 17 : STAMPS for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, “That a sum not exceeding Rs 1,62,55, 1972, in respect of ‘Opium Factories and 090 be granted to the President, on accowit, Alkaloid Works’/* for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Stamps’.” DEMAND No. 24 : OTHER REVENUE EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY DEMAND No. 18 : AUDIT OF FINANCE ‘‘That a sum not exceeding Rs. 10,60,00, “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 16,17,44 000 be granted to the President, on account, 000 be granted to the President, On account, for or towards defraying the charges during for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on thi 31st day of March, on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect 1972, in respect of ‘Audit*/* of ‘Other Revenue Expenditure of the Finance'/* DEMAND No* 19 : CURRENCY AND coinage DEMAND No. 25 : GRANTS IN- AID TO STATE AND UNION ^ “ That a sun? not exceeding Rs. 5,53,40, TERRITORY qoVERNMETS 909 be granted to the President, on account, “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,93,47, for or towards defraying the charges during 86,000 be granted to the President, On acco* A year ending ori the 31st day of March, unt. f o r or towards defraying the charges \&TZ, in respect of ‘Currency and Coinage’/ ' during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, id respect of ‘Graats«in*aid to demand NO. 2 0 : mint State and Union Territory Government*/* “That a turn not exceeding Rs. 1,52,02,* DEMAND NO, 26 i m SbcJBLLANBOUS 000 be granted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying‘rbe charges during ADJUSTMENTS BETWEEN THE CENTRAL t AND S^ATfi AND the year ending on the 31st day of March, UNION TERRITORY 1972* to respect of^MfatV* GOVERNMENTS <* j D6MAND No* ,21 * % W M GOLD MWBS “Tba* *9 Wpi not exceeding Re* 11,35, •'That a sum nor exceeding Rs* 2,71 |j$, 009 be granted to the President, on acm m t >01 G Dlj. the year ending on the 31st day of March, DEMAND No, 32 i OTHER REVENUE 197& in iwpect of'Miscellaneous adjust EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY ments between the Central and State and OF FOOD. AGRICULTURE, Union Territory Governments’.” COMMUNITY QEVELOP- MENT AND COOPERATION DEMAND. NO. 27 : PRE-PARTITION PAYMENTS “That a sum not exceeding Rs; 15,59,12, “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 18,000 be 000 be granted to the President, on aftdOtofr, granted to the Presiden on account, for or tomrds defraying the charges during for or towards defraying t DEMAND NO- 31 : FOREST “That a sum not exceeding R*. 27*00,000 be granted to the President, on account, for "That a awn not exceeding fei. *7*06, 5 towards defying the charges during 000 he *»n*ed to thePresident, m account, the year coding on tihe 31et ’day of Marcb, fo t wfo la y in g th*char»esduring *972, in respect <*f ‘Minfctty ftf the year ending on thtf Slat day Family planuina and World, Housing and Jf72# in respect of 'fltwertV* Urban DevetopmeAtV* ' * o . d is . a n d m a r c h w„ m t D. G, <# Ayt. m DEMAND NO. 37 : MBDiCAL AMD DEMAND No. 42 J CABINET public health t ^That a sum not exceeding Rs. £8,22,000 ‘‘That a tarn n$Je*ceeding Rs. 9.04,03.000 be granted to the Presi^nt, on account, be granted to m President, on account* fo t ox towards defraying the charges during f t p 0 towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st tfay of March, the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect pf ‘Cabinet4/* 1972, in map** 'iMedteal aad Public Health/* , DEMAND NO. 43 ! DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL DEMAND NO, Jf s PUBUC WORKS "That fa sum not exceeding Rs. 1,39,94, '•That * tom not encoding Rs. 15,19,69, 000 be granted to the President, on account, 000 he granted to the President, on account. for or towards defraying the charges during f a t or tow atds defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect o f’Department of Person 1972, in respect of 'Public WorkssY* nel*/* DEMAND NO. 39 : STATIONERY AND DEMAND NO. 44 : ADMINISTRATION PRINTING O F JU S T IC B “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 82,000 “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,28,72, be granted to the President, on account, for 000 be granted to the President, on account, or towards defraying the charges during the /o r or towards defraying the charges during year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, tty year ending on the 31st day of March, in respect o f ‘Administration of JusticY* 1972, In respect pf 'Stationery and Printing*/* DEMAND NO. 45 : POLICE DBM AND NO. 40 ! OTHER REVENUE EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OF “Ti>4t a sum at# exceeding Rs* 25,48^2, HBAtTH AND FAMILY PLANNING AND 000 be granted to the President* on account» WORKS. HOUSING AND URBAN fo r or towards defraying the charges during DEVELOPMENT the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Police*/* “th at a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,09,90, 000 be panted to the President, on account» DEMAND NO. 46 ! CENSUS fa t &t towards defraying the charges during t£i ending on the 31st day March, lffa, & rtapect Of ‘Other Revenue Expendi “That a sum not exceeding Rs* 3,62,84, ture t m m » ND 41 s MINISTRY OF HOME A1^A«S DEMAND NO* 47 : STATISTICS " m w asi^D m weeding Rs. 46,02,000 be jrantgd to the V ttq tm , on account, “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,46,80, fm m fomstk defining f a ch|^e# during 0Q(t be granted to the President, m account* tor AntovW fhM jt.y»ihU t m A* m p e a i f *Miniftry «f Stomp th*^*a*^on th*3i*d*y,of Manfe* m GM.<~Getu m s. and (SAKAt b&mAcet. m DfcMANDKtt 41^1 PMVV PURSES AND DEMAND NO. 54 i DAjORA AND &AOAR AU-OW AflOSS DP INDIAN JUJUBES HAVELI AREA { ''tfcat « sum $>t exceodfqg Rs. 28,99,00Q ^Thatasum not exceeding &s. $8*00d be granted to tl* President, on account, for or be granted to the President, m m o m * fowtfftfc defraying the charges during the fo t on towards defraying the charge* during, the year ending on the 31st day of March, y«W w4iW 3l»t day of March* 1972, in respect of Privey Purses and 1972, in respect of ‘Dadra and Nagar Haveii Allowances of Indian Rulers’/ ' Area*/* DEMAND NO* TERRITORIAL AND 49 : DEMAND NO. 55 : LACCADIVE, MINICOY POLITICAL PENSIONS AND AMUJDIVl ISLANDS “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 9,43,000 be granted to the President, on account, fo t or towards defraying the charges during the ' ‘That a sum not exceeding Rs. <59,75,000 year ending on the 31st day of March, be granted to the President, on account* 1972, in respect of ‘Territorial and Political for or towards defraying the charges during Pensions*/* the year ending on the 34 st day of March, 1972, in respect of 'Laccadive, Mtnicoy and » Amindivi Islands*/* DEMAND NO. 50 : DELHI “That a sum not exceeding Us. 19,82,26, 000 be granted to the President, on account, DEMAND NOv 56 : OTFBR REVENUE fo r or towards defraying the charges during EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OF the year ending on the 31st day of March, HOME AFFAIRS 1972, in rerpect of ‘Delhi*/* “That a sum not exceeding ^La. DEMAND NO. 51 : CHANDIGARH 4,31,18,000 be granted to the President on account, fos or towards decaying the “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 2,69,59, charges during the year ending on the 31& day of March, 1972, in respect of * other 000 be granted to the President, on account, Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of fox pr towards defraying the charges during Home Affairs’.” the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Chandigarh’/* DEMAND NO, 57 : MINISTRY OF INDUS TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INTERNAL DEMAND NO. 52 ! ANDAMAN AND TRADE NICQBAR ISLANDS "That a sum not exoeeding Rs» 25,81,000 “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 3,69,47, be granted to the President, on account 000 %e granted to the President, oft account, fo t or towards defraying the charges during fo t or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Ministry of Industrial 1972* in respect of 'Andaman and Nicobar Development and Internal Trade*.** Islands*/* t DEMAND NO, 58 : INDUSTRIES DEMAND NO* 53 : TRIBAL AREAS "That a sum not exceeding R»* “ That a m m not exoeeding Rs> 9,38,18, 1,95,96/W0 bo granted to the Piettident, r n \m granted to the President, m account, on account* for or towards defraying the f m m m m d s defraying the ehasgbs during charges during the year ending’ oa the3*«t tbey*ar *i*dint ootbeJlstday Matteh, day' of Mateh, 19*2, in rtspfect of ia respect *f'Tribal ‘Industries*/* 1 0 OS ^Qm Dis. md mm}H i% m D&mAcst* rn DBMANp NO- 59 t SAJIT DEMAND NO. 64 t MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER *Thftt it tnni not exceeding Rt. $0,12,000 be grtnted to the President, on account* •That a sum not exceeding Rs. 15,38,000 fo t or towards defraying the Charges during be granted to the President, dn adcoknt, the year ending bn the 31st day of March, for or towards defraying the churget 1972, in respect of'SaKV’ during the year ending bn the 3lst day of Much, 1972, in respect of Ministry Of DEMAND NO. 60 : OTHER REVENUE •Irrigation and Power’/ ’ expenditure of the ministry OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT DFMAND NO. 65 : MULTIPURPOSE AND INTERNAL TRADE RIVER SCHEMES “ That ft sum not exceeding Rs. 5,24,82,000 be granted to the President, “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,12,40,000 be granted to the President, on on account* for or towards defraying the chaiyes daring the year ending on the 31st account, for on towards defraying the day Of March, 1972, in respect of 'other charge* during the year ending on the 31st Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Multipurpose River Schemes’.” Industrial Development and Internal Trade Y’ DEMAND NO. 66 : OTHER REVENUE DEMAND no . 61 : MINISTRY OF EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING IRRIGATION AND POWER “ That ft sum not exceeding Rs. “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 10f79,000 be granted to the President, 3.80.89.000 be granted to the President, on account* fo r or towards defraying on account, for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of 31st day of March, 1972, m respect of Ministry ojt information and Broadcasting’." * Other Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of Irrigation and Power’.” DIMAN© NO 62 : BROADCASTING DEMAND NO 67 : MINISTRY OF LABOUR. EMPLOYMENT AND REHABILITATION “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 5,48,31,000 be granted to the President, “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. on account, for on towards defraying the 31.21.000 be granted to the President, the charges during the year ending on the on account♦ fo" or towards f defraying 31*1 day of March, 1972, in respect of the charges during the year ending on the 'BtoadcastiagV* 31st day of M ireh, 1972, in respect of ‘Ministry of Labour, Employment and Rehabilitation’.” D1BMAND NO* 63 : OTHER REVENUE BXPfiNDnrUlffi OF THfi MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING DEMAND NO. 68 : DIRECTOR GENERAL, MINES SAFETY “That ft sum not exceeding Rs. 2,89,19,000 be granted to the President* “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. on account, fo* or towards defraying 20,94,000 be granted to the President, the charges during the year ending on the on account, for or towards defraying tfee 31st day «T Wftteb, *972, in nsspect of 'other charges daring the year jmdift* >m Rcveikoe gafcpodtture Mtefrwy of the 31st day of March, \97Z,'fato*p6at Information *od Broadcasting’/* of 'Director General, Mine* Safety}/* m Q.K-r'Geh. Bis* and CRASTRA §tJim (SAm M .mdocl. 11# u m m * w b DEMAND NO. 74 : MINISTRY OP EMPLOYMENT PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND - <* MINES AND METALS "That a sum not exceeding Rat 8.50.17.000 be granted to the Piesident, “That a sum not exceeding Rs* 21,34,(0)0 onacc&wtt.for or towards defraying the be granted to the President, on account charges daring the year ending on the 31st for or towards defraying the char day of March, 1972; in respect of ‘Labour ges during the year ending on the list day and Employment\** of March, 1972, in respect o f‘Ministry of Petroleum and Chemicals aad Mine* and DEMAND NO. 70 : EXPENDITURE ON Metals*.*’ DISPLACED PERSONS DEMAND NO. 75 : GEOLOGICAL “That a sum not exceeeding Rs. SURVEY 3.92.48.000 be granted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying the “That a sum not exceeding Rs. charges during the year ending on the 31st 5,16,00.000 be granted to the Prerident, on day of March, 1972, in respect of account, for or towards defraying the char ‘Expenditure on displaced persons*.** ges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Geological DEMAND NO. 71 : OTHER REVENUE Survey’.** EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR EMPLOYMENT AND RE DFMAND NO. 76 : OTHER REVENUE HABILITATION EXPENDITURE OF THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 3,22,000 AND MINES AND METALS be granted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying the “That a sum not exceeding Rs. charges during the year ending on the 31st 5,.59,14,000 be granted to the President, on day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Other account, fo r or towards defraying the char* Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of ges during the year ending on the 31st day Labour, Employment and Rehabilitation.'* of March, 1972, in respect of 'other Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of Petroleum DEMAND NO. 72 : MINISTRY OF LAW and Chemicals and Mines and Metals*.** DEMAND NO. 77 : MINISTRY OF “That a sum * not exceeding Rs. SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT 34,17,000 be granted to the President, ort account, for or towards defraying the “That a sum not exceeding R*. charges during the year ending on the 31st 52,96,000 be granted to the President, on day of March, 1972, in respect of Ministry of Law’.” account, for or towards defraying the char ges during the year ending on the 31st day of Match, 1972, in respect of ‘Ministry of Shipping and Transport*,** DEMAND NO. 73 : OTHER REVENUE EXPENDITURE OF THB MINISTRY OF LAW DEMAND NO. 78 : ROADS "Thai a mm not exceeding Rs. 6 ,18,0 6 ,0 0 0 he granted to the President, “That a turn not dxoeeding an account, for or towards defraying the 8,13,38,000 bo granted to the President, on duttiif iW$ear ending on1 the 31st account* fo r or towards defraying ttie char- l&fth, 1972* ill respect of ‘Othct ReVeflue ges during the year ending on the 34«t day Bx**ad*taw Of V* Ministry of LkwV* of March, 1972, in re*** of ’Roads*/* • t i l ms* an* \MXm7S,mt DA.&nAtc*, m dem and w h ** \ u That mm not exceeding Rs. “Tfeat a sum not exceeding R*. 2.52.69.000 be granted to the President, 39.46.000 be granted to -the President, m «tf actomt, "far or towawfc defraying account, for or towards defraying the d m * thachazges during (he year ending on the ges during the year ending on tb»3Ut day 3!«t dagr of March* 1972, In* respect of of March, 1972, in pespeot of ‘Ministry of ' ‘MetfofttttHft M arine'” Supply’.” DBMAlfo NO. 90 ; LIGHTHOUSES AMD DEMAND NO. 85 : SUPPLIES AND LIGHTSHIPS disposals “That a sum not exceeding Rs. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. . 46,77,000 be granted to the President, on 1.57.38.000 be granted to the President, on account, for or towards defraying the char* account, fo r or towards defraying the char gee during the year ending on the 31st day ges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect o f 4 Lighthouses of March, 1972, in respect of Supplies and *s4 lightships’.’' Disposals’.” JJEMAND NO. Si : OTHER REVENUE DEMAND NO. 86 : OFHER RBVFNUE EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY EXPENDITURE OF THE MINISTRY OF OF SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT SUPPLY *That a sum not exceeding Rs. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 15,50,000 2.04.51.000 be granted to the President, on be granted (o the President, on account, for account, for or towards defraying the char or towards defraying the charges during ges during the year ending on the 31st day the year ending on the 31st day of March, day of March, 1972, in respcct of ‘Other 1972, in respect of ‘Other Revenue Expendi* Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of ture of the Ministry of Supply’.” Shipping and Transport*.41 DEMAND NO. 87 : MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION DEMAND NO. 82 : MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY engineering “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 8,65,000 be granted to the President, on account* fo r or towards defraying the charges during "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 9,14,000 the year ending on the 31st day of March, be granted to the President, on account, 1972, in respect of ‘Ministry of Tourism and fo r or towards defraying the charges during Civil Aviation’.” the year ending on the 31 st day of March, 4072, in respect of Ministry of SWel and DEMAND NO. 88 i METEOROLOGY i« « y fitsgtoterfngY* “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,72,55,000 be granted to tlW President 1 DEMAND NO. »3 : OTHER RBVKNUfe on account, tor or towards defraying the SXP&NDrrURB OF THE MINISTRY OP charges during the year ending on the 31st S i m AND HEAVY ENGINEERING day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Meteoro logy’/ ’ . ' “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 24,41,000 DEMAND NO. 89 : AVIATION be granted to the President, m account, M o rtm m rd s decaying the obai*«* during ‘'th a t « win not exceeding fU. m ytfer ending m 3*«i day o f M an*, m m m be granted to the tm ito M , 1972, to inspect of *Other Revenue Expendi m aaoomt* far or tcamds defraying tfw ture otf the Ministry of Steel and Heavy chafing during the Mtr fn#qg on tin &|gt Engineering^^ «# M utt, t9h, i» ««pw*of ’A U* fr&mAeei. M K o m w DSMA*HS N a 95 ; POftS AND 1*t*t»tAPHS nxmiDmm'&tm ministry of (Woto^TG BXPBf«BS) TOURBM AND CIVIL AVIATION “That « sum not exoeedinf Rt. 96.06.76.000 be granted to the President, !* 44 That * «to» not exceeding fts. on account, for or towards 4eintying the 97,35,000 1* granted to the President, on charges during the year ending on the 3ist account, for or towards defraying the char day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Posts and ges during the year ending an 31st day Telegraphs (Working Expenses)’/ ' of March, 1972, in respect of Other 'Revenue Expenditure of the Ministry of Tourism and DEMAND NO. 96 : POSTS AND TELEGRAPHS Civil Aviation’.** —DIVIDEND TO GENERAL REVENUES, RPPROPR1ATION TO RESERVB FUNDS AND DEMAND NO. 91 : DEPARTMENT OF REPAYMENTS OF LOANS FROM GENERAL ATOMIC ENERGY REVENUES "That a sum not exceeding Rs, "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 12,00,000 5.60.46.000 be granted to the President, on be granted to the President, on account* fo r account, for or towards defraying the char or towards defraying the charges during the ges during the year ending on the 31st day year ending on the 31st day of March* 1972, of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Posts and in respect of ‘Department of Atomic Energy*/* Telegraphs Dividend to General Revenues, Appropriation to Reserve Funds and Repay ments of Loans from General Revenues*/* DEMAND NO. 92 : OTHER KEVJbNUB EXPENDITURE OF THE DEPARTMENT DEMAND no. 97 : OTHER REVENUE OF ATOMIC ENERGY EXPENDITURE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATIONS* 'That a sum not exceeding Rs. "That a sum not exceeding R*, 17,85,70,000 he granted to the President, 15.57.000 be granted, to the President, on on atipounttfor or towards defraying the account, for or towards defraying the charge daring the year ending on the 31st charges during the year ending on the day ofr March, 1972, in respect of 'Other 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of Reventft Expenditure of the Department of ‘Other Revenue Expenditure of the Depart Atomic Energy*/* ment of CommunicafionsV’ DEMAND NO. 98 : DEPARTMENT OF DEMAND NO. 93 : DEPARTMENT OF COMPANY AFFAIRS COMMUNICATIONS “That a turn not exceeding Rs. 11,49,000 ‘That a sum not exceeding Rs. 6,38,000 be granted to the President on account, be granted to the President, on account, for for or towards defraying the charges during or towards defraying the charges daring the the year ending on the 31st day of March, y&f ending on thtf list day of March, 1972, 1972. in respect of ‘Department of Company in respect of ‘Department of Contfmunica* Affairs*/* tioni’/* DEMAND NO. 99 : OTHER REVENUE DEMAND WO. 94 i OVERSEAS COMMUNI EXPENDITURE OF TUB DBPARMBNT CATIONS SERVICE OF COMPANY AFFAIRS “That a sum m «***difig R*. f*HM a sum not exceeding Rs. 28,08*000 be granted to the President, on 1*58,14 iflQO be glutted tn the President, on account, for or towards defraying the 4m m ,for or towards defraying the char- charges during the year ending on 3itt day *rd*srtag 0m 9m coding onthe3I»t day of of Much, im ,d n fwpecti* <0ftar *& m m mm, tm, m mm «f *ovttww« Expenditure of the Department of Company lent jftwt i!» GA.Gtn.Dts. m i MARCH 37, im DO. on Actt. ' l t t DEMAND KO. 1 » : 0BPARTMHKT DSMAND NO. 105 * PLANNING OF BLBCntOMCS COMMISSION “That m sum not exceeding Rs. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 43,94,000 be grouted to the Piesident, 54.10.000 be granted to the President, ok account, for or towards defraying the on account* for on towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st the charges during the year ending on the day of March, 1972, fo respect of 'Depart, 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of meat of ElectronicsY’ * Planning Commission Y* DEMAND NO. 106 : LOK SABKA DBMAND NO. 101 : DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS "That « sum not exceeding Rs. 92.62.000 be granted to the President, on account, for an towards defraying the “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. charges during the year ending on the 31st 3.73.000 be granted to the President, on day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Lok account* for or towards defraying the char- SabhaV’ ges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of 'Department of DEMAND NO 107 : RA*YA &ABHA Parliamentary Affairs’/ ’ “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 37,82,300 be granted to the President, on demand NO. 102 : DEPARTMENT account, for or towards defraying the OF SCIENTIFIC AND INDUSTRIAL charges during the year ending on the RESEARCH 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Rajya SabhaV* '•That a sum not exceeding Rs. 7.40.58.000 be granted to the President, DEMAND NO 108 SECRETARIAT OF on account, for or towards defraying the THE VICE-PRESIDENT charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Depart “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. 1,15,000 ment of Scientific and Industrial Research'/' be granted to the President, on account*for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, DEMAND NO. 103 ; DEPARTMENT 1972, m respect of ‘Secretariat of the OF SOCIAL WELFARE Vice-President’/* “That a sum net exceeding Rs. DEMAND NO. 109 : DEFENCE CAPITAL 8,05,000 be granted to the President, on OUTLAY account, for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st “That a sum not exceeding Rs. day of Match, 1972, in respect fof 'Depart- 54.42.67.000 be granted to the President, moot of Social Welfare’/* on account, for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Defence DEMAND NO. 104 : OTHER REVENUE Capital Outlay1/* EXPENDITURE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE DEMAND NO. U0 ; OTHER CAPITAL OUTLAY OF TUB MINISTRY OF DEFENCE “That a stun not exceeding Rs. 1,94,39,000 be gftoted to the President, “That a sum not exceeding Its. on account, fa r or towards defrajrWg the 1.53.33.000 be granted to the President, charges during the year ending on the 31«t on account, for or towards defraying ihe day of March, 1972, *» respect of 'Other charges during the year ending do the 31# Revenue Expenditure of the Depftfttittdt of day of March, 1972, In xespeot o f ‘Othe* Seeiftl WetftoeY* Capital Outlay of the MJ atouy 117 G.B.— Qen. W f . and CHAlXRA S, im (SAK4> DG. on Met- ltfj DEMAND NO. Ill : CAFITAL OUTLAV DEMAND NO* U6 : COMMUTED VA^UE OP TUB MttOSRY OF EDUCATION OF PENSIONS A>0> VOUTH SBRVICBS “That a sum not exceeding R*. "That * sum not exceeding Rs. 3,83,73,000 be granted to the President, 48,18,000 be granted to the President, on on account, fo r or towards defraying account, fo r or towards defraying the the charges during the year ending on the charges during fbe year ending on the 31st 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Capital ‘Commuted Value of Pensions’/* Outlay of the Ministry of Education and Youth Services*.” DEMAND NO. 117 : OTHER CAPITAL OUTLAY OF THB MINISTRY OF DEMAND NO. 112 : CAPITAL OUTLAY FINANCE ON THE INDIA SECURITY PRESS “That a sum not exceeding Rs. “That a sum not exceeding Rs 21,03,000 2,23,97,000 be granted to the President, be granted to the President, on account, on account, fo r or towards defraying the fo r or towards defraying the charges charges during the year ending on the 31st during tho year ending on the 31st day of day of March, 1972, in respect Of ‘Other March, 1972, in respect of ‘Capital Outlay Capital Outlay of the Ministry Of on the India Security Press’.’* Finance*.” DEMAND NO. 113 : CAPITAL OUTLAY DEMAND NO. U8 : CAPITAL OUTLAY ON CURRENCY AND COINAGE ON GRANTS TO STATE GOVERNMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT "That a sum not exceeding Rs. “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 3,55,42,000 be granted to the President, 9.64.67.000 be granted to the President, on account* for on towards defraying the on account, for or towards defraying the charges dprtng the year ending on ths 31st the charges during the year ending on the day of March, 1972, in respect of'Capital 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of Outlay on Currency and Coinage’,” 'Capital Outlay on Grants to State Govern ments for Development'.” DEMAND NO. 114 : CAPITAL OUTLAY DEMAND NO. 119 ; LOANS AND ON MINTS ADVANCES BY THB CENTRAL GOVERNMENT “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 9,61,000 be granted to the President, "That a sum not exceeding Rs. on account, for or towards defraying 2.63.71.04.000 be granted to the President, the gharges during the year ending on the on acconnt, tor nr towards defraying the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of charges during the year ending on the 31at ‘Capital Outlay #n Mints?.” day of March, 1972, in respect pf ‘Loans and Advances by the Central Government'." DEMAND NO. 115 : CAPITAL OUTLAY ON KOLAR OOLD MINES demand NO. 120 : purchase OF FOODGRAINS AND FERTILIZERS “ffett ft sum not exceeding Rs. “That > a sunt not exceeding Its. 45,55,000 be granted to the President, 41,12,21,000 be granted to tfte President, on account, for or towards defraying on account, for or towards defraying the taring the yea# ending on the charges during tbt year ending oo the 3!et 3lst day & March, >972, in respect o f day of Maatdi, 1992, in resfctt of ♦ Capital DfetlitP «Q Stoiar Gold Mfces," 'Purchase of Foodgraias and Fertiiiajf*\H lift GA.-43tH. Du. m > MARCH t t , W i D.O. m in & tin b. JM* onrmacawtac DEMAND N O .!« t CAPITAL OUt* outlay o f The ministry of LAY XN UNION TERRITORY AMD FOOD, AGRICULTURE, COMMUNITY TRIBAL AREAS DEVELOPMENT AND COOPERATION "That a sum not exceeding Rs. **niat a sum not exceeding Its. 8.59.76.000 be granted to the President, 20*07,95,000 be' granted to (be President, on account, for or towards defraying the Uw (hMjpa dor bn the yew ending on the DEMAND NO. 135 : CAPITAL OUTLAY Jilt flay of March, 1972, in respect of ON PORTS •cM ^i Outlay on Multipurpose River Scheme* v* t “That a sum not exceeding Rs. 3.65.40.000 be granted to the President, on account* for or towards DEMAND n o . 131 ; OTIfcR CAPITAL defraying the OUTLAY 01* THE MINISTRY OF charges during the year ending on the 31st IRRIGATION AND POWER day of March, 1972, in respect of * Capital Outlay on Ports’/* "T bit a sum not exceeding Rs. 7,90,07,000 be granted to the President, Demand n o . 136 : other capital OUTLAY OF THE MINISTRY OF m account, for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Other “ That a sum not exceeding Rs. Capital Outlay of the Ministry of 4.51.64.000 be granted to the President Irrigation and Power'/* on account* fo r or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 3!st DEMAND NO. 132 : CAPITAL OUTLAY day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Other OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR, Capital Outlay of the Ministry of Shipping EMPLOYMENT AND REHABILITATION and Transport’/ ' DEMAND NO. 137 : CAPITAL OUTLAY “That a snra not exceeding Rs. OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND 2,52,53,000 be granted to the President, HEAVY ENGINEERING on account, for or towards fdefraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of “That a sum not exceeding Rs. ‘Capital Outlay of the Minstry of Labour, 7.62.15.000 be granted to the President, on Employment and Rehabilitation*/* account* for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Capital DEMAND NO. 133 : CAPITAL OUTLAY Outlay of the Ministry of Steel and Heavy m THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Engineering*/* AND CHEMICALS AND MINES AND METALS DEMAND NO. 13$ : CAPITAL OUTLAY ON AVIATION "That a sum not exceeding Rs. "That a sum not exceeding Rs. 27,02,71,000 be granted to the President, 4.45.76.000 be granted to the President, on account fo r or towards defraying the on account* for or towards defraying the c h ai^ d u rteg the year ending on the 31st charges during the year ending.on the 31st day of Mart*, 1972, * ttspect of ‘Capital day of March, 1972, in respect DEMAND NO. 139: OTHER CAPJTAL D8MAN0.NO. 134 i CAPITAL OUTLAY OUTLAY OF TEE MINISTRY OF - m ROADS TOURISM AriD CIVIL AVj&tldN <44Th*t a sum iKft exceeding Rs. “T li* a *W pot exceeding Rs. 4;52,27,0<» be granted to the President, IS,ft,7*4000 be granted to the Prorident, &n fcecmuf&r w 'towards defraying m onmmtmt, fitrw towards defraying the charges during the year tndiog demand no. I4 d : capital outlay MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKEk t The urn* OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ATOMIC ’ tion is : ENERGY “ That leave be granted to introchtee "That a sum not exceeding Rs. a Bill to provide for the withdrawal 21.71.71.000 be granted to the President, of certain sums from and out of the OH account, fo r or towards defraying the Consolidated Fund of India for the r&arfets during the year ending on the 31st services of a part of the financial year day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Capital 1971-72.’* Outlay of the Department of Atomic The motion was adopted. Energy*,** SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : Sir, 1 introduce the Bill. DEMAND NO. 141 : CAPITAL OUTLAY ON POSTS AND TELEGRAPHS (NOT Sir, I beg to move** : MET BOR REVENUE) “That the Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from and “ That a sura not exceeding Rs. out of the Consolidated Fund of 29,35,00,000 be granted to the President, India for the services of a part of the on account, fo r or towards defraying the financial year ,1971 -72, be taken into charges during the year ending on the 31st consideration.” day of March, 1972, in respect of ‘Capital Outlay of Posts and Telegraph* (Not met MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER •. The ques from Revenue)’/ ’ tion is : “That the Bill to provide for the DEMAND NO. 142 : OTHER CAPITAL withdrawal of certain sums from and OUTLAY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF out of the Consolidated Fund of COMMUNICATIONS India for the services of a part of the financial year 1971*72 be taken “That a sum not exceeding Rs. into consideration. ” 61.27.000 be granted to the President on The motion was adopted- account, for or towards defraying the charges during the year ending on the 31st MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question day of March, 1972, in respect of 'Other is ; Capital Outlay of the Department of Comm- “That clauses 2, 3, 4, the Schedule, unteatkmsV* Clause I, the Enacting Formula and - the Title stand part of the BiU> Tht motion was adopted* t ' * Clauses 1, 2, 3. 4 , the Schedule* 1620 bt* Clause 1» the Enacting Formula and ike T itle were added to tk* BUI- > » APPROPRIATION (VOTE ON SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : ACCOUNT) BILL*, *971 Sir, 1 beg to move : "That the Rill be THB MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI MR. DBPtmr^SWSAKBR The ques YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): I beg to move tion is : Cor leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the “ That the Bill be passed.** o t certain tarns from and o«t of the Consolidated Pond of ,India toner* The mofltyt wt$ykpie& \i vice* ef » part the financial year 197,1*73. ji...... - ...... iitiW.ia.wMi*n i.^n niliinjii^i •PnWlthed h) GwaUf nflndta Pat» , S«ctio» 2 ttted' . **)» o ftte PtnMeat. 125 CHAIATR 6, 1893 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1971 126 16.22 hrs. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE (Howrah): Sir, this Finance Bill is the reflection of the FINANCE BILL, 1971 economic policy of the Government as the Budget is the reflection of the economic policy of the Gover�ment. The Finance THE MINISTER OF F1NANCE (SHRI Minister has claimed that a new orientation YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): Sir, I beg has been brought about towards socialist to move* : direction by the new Budget. He told that though the very word 'socialism' is not th':lre, "That the Bill to continue for the the content, is socialism. But, here, the financial year 1971-72 the existing real content of the Budget, if you see and rates of income-tax with certain analyse it, is 100% capitalist Budget and modifications and to provide for the there is not an iota of socialism in it. Now continuance of the provisions relating a-days everybody claims to be a socialist. to special and regulatory duties of Even big monopolists are claiming themsel "'· customs and excise and of certain ves to be socialists. This signifies that to commitmen's under the General Agree day when the crisis of capitalism accentuating ment on Tariffs and tr::1de and the when it is being exposed and discredited discontinuance of the duty en salt for and rejected by the people, it cannot stand the said year, be taken into considera on its own name. That is why it is taking tion." the cover of socialism. Sir, I do not want to take a longer time 16.24 hrs. for it you see the Bill itself, the Statement of Objects explains some very small modifi [SHRI K.N. TIWARY in the Chair.] cations that are introduced in the case of income tax which are of consequential nature So, the name of socialism used by the because we are continuing most of the provi Finance- Minister as the content of this sions of 1970-71. Budget is a cover to defend and develop capitalism in India. Sir, the world over As far as the provisions about non-direct capitalism is facing a deepening crisis and ___, taxes are concerned, they continue in the one country after another is coming out of same form as they were in last year. capitalism and are passing into a new system of socialism. Already the superiority of socia lism has become established on an intero I, therefore, commend the Bill for accep national scale. So, socialism has become the tance by the House. main attraction is to the common masses. This talk of socialism by Congress leaders is done to hoodwink the masses, to keep MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Motion the influence of the ruling party and the moved: ruling class over the mas,es who are define tely swinging towards socialism. So these ''That the Bill to continue for the leaders themselves are posing now as social financial year 1971-72 the existing lis ts. rates of income-tax with certain modifications and to provide for the The basic policy which is behind this continuance of the provisions relating budget is not changed ; it is the old policy to special and regulatory duties of which is still being pursued. customs and excise and of certain commitments t1nder the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and I am citing some of the very vital points the discontinuance of the duty on that are mentioned in the Budget speech. salt for the said year, be taken into Though I am speaking on the Finance Bill, consideration." because this Budget speech forms the *Moved with the recommendation of the President. 127 Fint1ce B ii!, 19 71 MARCH 27, 1971 Finance Bill, 1971 12;8 [Shri Samar Mukherjee] Congress regime the poor have become background of this Finance Bill, I would like poorer and the rich have become richer. to refer to his Budget speech. From public platforms · the Congress Please see page 9. It is stated there : leaders are ra1smg the slogan--Garibi ''But the fact remains that notwith Hatao. They say, they are for abolishing standing the rapid economic strides poverty. They say, they are fighting we have taken over the _ past two against disparity. But what is it that they decades, the twin problems of mass have developed for the last 24 years? poverty and unemployment remain as Nothing but greater and greater disparity. acute as ever. " This is the very logic of a Capitalist eco nomy. Rapid strides of economy continues for two decades Result ? Mass poverty mass unem On the one hand there is concentration ployment. And, what is the solution sugges of wealth. On the other hand there · is ted in this Budget speech ? The next line concentration of poverty. And, this econo suggests the solution : It says : mic polarisation is bound to have its reflec tion in the political polarisation. The "There can be no question that pover toiling masses, when they become aware ty and unemployment cannot be and conscious of the nature of this system eradicated without a sustained process and the nature of this exploitation, they will of growth." get organised ane they will wage struggles. They do this through strikes, demonstrations This growth has been continuing for two and through mobilisations and then through decades. The result is : revolt. See Bangla Desh. See what is happening in East Bengal. Hon. Members 'Mass poverty and unemployment had spoken this morning about East Bengal. remain as acute as ever.' This is the logic of history. No forces can prevent that logic of history. That is why Again the suggesstion comes of the same a serious re-thinking is essential and a type of continuous growth of economy. reorientation is necessary and that requires Then, this sort of continuous growth of a fundamental change in the basic economic economy means further increase in poverty, policy and the entire outlook of the ruling further increase in unemployment. This is Congress. But we know that no such bound to happen because the system which charge is possible by those who have served is run by the ruling classes in India for the the capitalists, the Tatas and the Birlas and last 24 years is inherited from the British the big businessmen for the last twenty Imperialists. In compromise with them and four years and have helped them to grow in collaboration with British as well as into monopolists. On the contrary, we find American imperialists they are developing that there are millions and millions of Indian capitalism, also in compromise with o·ur people who die of starvation and who feudal forces. That is why mass unemploy are being thrown out of jobs. This Govern ment is bound to grow and bound to ment cannot bring ab;iut socialism in this It will further grow and fu develop. rther country. That i5 why l submit that any develop and time will come when these talk of socialism by them is only · to unemployed will rise in revolt. There is no hoodwink the masses. This exposure is other alternative for them but overthrowing essential to get the masses out of the this very system and establishing a new influence of the bourgeoisie and its philoso social system which will be socialism. phy. This very budget says that there Socialism means fundamentally and has been no change in the policies. basically, the social ownership of the entire means of production and distribution. It We find from the budget itself that two means the end of Capitalism. decades of sustained and continuous growth But here, for the last 24 years what has of economy have resulted in mass poverty happened ? Many Congress MPs have and unemployment. Still, we find that spoken on this very floor today that during Government are pursuing the very same ; 1» WflOTC* mi, m i CHAITRA 6,1893 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1971 130 policy. So, there is not an iota of socialism Birlas are closing down their factories. ifk this, It is pure mid simple and hundred What is the argument % "*We have to reduce por cent capitalism in collaboration with the cost of production because government foreign imperialism and in compromise with policy is to encourage exports, and for that feudal forces. Unless these basic things our prices have to be competitive in the are changed, unless feudalism is completely world market/’ So cost is an important eliminated and the handless and the pooor factor, but all the same, the big monopolies peasantry are given land, there is no ques must maintain their profit undrminished ; So tion of India becoming free from the food the burden of reducing the cost of production crisis. falls on the workers. That is why the number The grip of monopoly over food trade of workers is being reduced and the workload is so powerful that Government are pleading on the remaining workers increased. helplessness before them. When there is price rise, they fail to check it and they Not only that. Factories are closed on are pleading their helplessness. What are the plea of yield of insufficient profit. A the devices to check prices, which have been society based on profit canot develop all* suggested here? Nothing substantial has been round economic growth particularly for the done to cheek prices, You have to think in common masses, for the workers, for the terms of developing the forces of produc unemployed and the poor. tion in agriculture. But that requires first and foremost a change in the relations of production in agriculture. Our Constitution gives a fundamental guarantee to Birlas and Tatas and other big The peasantry, ground down by the business houses. They have the right (o oppression of the feudal forces, jotdars and close down tl eir factories, throwing thousands big landlords are being thrown out of their of woikeis o it of job, rendering them unem land and ejected thus creating an army of ployed and leading them to sure death as unemployed. Millions and millions of poor they have no provision to maintain them* people have become distitutes and are selves Bur whenever we demand that roaming about in the villages. There is factories should be nationalised, there is nobody to look after them. On the other provis an in the Constitution for payment hand, the production from land is passing of ful' conpinsation to the owners. There into the hands of the hoarders because they is no pro set .an in the Constitution for the have links with the entire Government workers .hr>wn out of jo b s; there is no departments. That is why they are able to provision foi the protection of the peasants create artificial wants. Just now, the thrown out of lands. The Constitution is Finance Minister told us that such artificial the defender of capitalists and ve&ted inter* want had been created. Who had created ests. this artificial want in cotton and other raw material? It is these big monopoly traders Who have created it and this Congress We talk of parliamentary democracy. Government by their very policy have en Friends say that it is the highest form of couraged these monopoly-holders, because democracy in the world. But wherever they themselves represent those very classes there is Parliamentary democracy, capitalism wad are now in the position of administra has developed. In no country in the world tors. Some hon. Members have said that under parliamentary democracy has there officers have become corrupt Yes, not only bsen socialism. In England, it is British officers, but the entire administration from imparialism. When we were under British top io bottom has become corrupt. Even domination, it was British parliamentary many political persons who are public democracy operating. Under parliamentary figures are are also not free from corruption. democracy, American imperialism is now Why has the entire society been turned waging an aggressive war in Vietnam. It into a cumipt society? Is it an isolated hat developed the new form of aggressive Infcideat? No, it i« a logical result of the imperialism. system which has been developed and raurtu- * m dtff& e Coogwss, which is a system SHRI B.K. DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch based • on exploitation «ad opprwfoa, BatMrti W tat iopKialtom? 131 Finance B 0, \ m MARCH 57,1971 Finance m > 1971 M SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEB i in price policies is ncoessary in such a way as China, it is not imperialism, bat people’s to benefit the poor and twiddle peasants on democracy. You have no knowledge of the one hand and the common consumers on socialism and no knowledge about China. the other. So if any orientation is to be introduced, basic changes must be matte after thinking There has been no change in the policy anew. In order to combat poverty and of taxation. Even in the memorandum on unemployment, the first essential is to give the Finance Bill it is stated that the existing back to the poor peasants and landless tax structure for the coming financial year labourers their land. There must be complete remains the same with only slight modifica elimination of feudalism. Second, all tions. The policy of taxation has to be over foreign industries, banks* mines etc. should hauled with a view to make the burden on be nationalised. Without this, the state the rich heavier while giving substantial re Cannot play a dominating role in the lief to the poor. But all this requires a basic economy. Leaving the main industries change in the Constitution which is very and Banks in the hands of mono- important, but I am not dilating on that plists, the State cannot intervene. There now. cannot be any planned economy when monopoly groups are left at liberty to ex The States must be provided with a ploit the people. So nationalisation is very major portion of the central taxes because essential if we are to fight poverty and the States are burdened with the responsibi unemployment. lity of solving the problem of unemploy ment and poverty, and more powers to the The next thing is effective democratic States is very essential. Otherwise, there control. Here the report the Finance Minis cannot be growth of the economy in a heal ter has stated that in the public sector things thy way. are not going well. That is because the whole management is in the hands of bure aucrats and officers. If the public sector For immediate resources I have some Industries and concerns are to run in an suggestions, though 1 know that the Govern effective manner, there should be democratic ment is not likely to implement them. You control and the employees should be asso must improve relations with China and the ciated with the management. The scales neighbouring countries and reduce defence Of wages of the workers and employees expenditure. Defence expenditure is rising should be substantially improved so that they very high and it is telling upon the economy can feel that they are participating in those seriously. That is why good neighbourly concerns and industries, and that they are relations are essential. China is a socialist working for the whole country. Otherwise, country and has no territorial ambition. they Heel that they are working not for the About that you must be fully conscious, country. because a socialist country can have no territorial ambition. Vigorous measures must be taken to There is a large amount of black money raise the wages and improve the living and by evading taxes. According to the report wortfnig conditions of agricultural labourers, of Professor Kaldor, nearly Rs. 4, 000 crores artisans and other sections of the rural of black money is there. You must close population. There must be a special provi all the loopholes said take serious measures sion that. Merely by allotting Rs. 50 to get that money. That wiM develop your dreweven the fringe of the unemploy resources within a very short time. ment problem can be touched. Your » ftitinto show that each year uftemploy* The high monopoly concerns have big m«nt is rising very high, and so Rs* 50 crores m t m funds. You must pass legislation to cannot compete with the rate of growth of take over those reserve funds «* compuisory unemployment, foam and devdop yoor ^sources. Those measums the Oovernmem x m ^ m e A total revefcwiof the proaasesnent and diately. 133 Finance M l 1971 CHAtTRA 6, m3 (2SKA) Finance M l im 134 16.45hrs. art *rnr | , w-rqf £Mr. S h ak er in the Chair.] W IT, fltfT 'pr *ars %, fer.w Another suggestion is that you must n vr*f ^?r fsrr«n,% *r«n*?nr f fa defer repayment of foreign loan for several years. The Congress Government during the JT v t anpftr 11 &r last 24 years has vertually mortgaged India to foreign imperialists. Already our »Pt *rar Jirr ft»TT m p r ' t m irflrwr foreign loan has risen to more than 7000 crores of rupees and the repayment of the if f*r%nV ^ t debts amounts to nearly Rs. 450 crores a year. It is a colossal figure. For repay amr *pk wra ment of these debts further loans have tfarei %*ro ^ emcre ^ Wf, art become necessary. Gradually our country is being completely mortgaged to American S^ftfSrsw msfcwH g jtt »to ti^o imperialism. There must be a complete break from this. You should stop repay- *ftr ^o^fro’from smfcr tf!yc«r nit ment for several years; by that you will get w% sranrr w ta r fc n f % w ^sr *f vttf w r tt% tr=r % w 5WC % tTOTtf ?S I* [«fr , i t f^s xtt *wr i ^aRTf t ftf tff 5^ ’f f®! % fetr «?r»mT«nPe ■ot& w PransSt ^HTT 5t 3nrr 1 ?Mft, w w w w P r *ftr 17 b n . «f *r^r ttm rfrfk qrrer % w r yrr$ Pwr? * *rm% fa% tftf^«rfa*rm % *RFC fr w tr m . t fr * iwswr ** ^ f t eft w %«pr(t m ftw r * lpnr ’sit $ tz i m snw^ aPr ^r i^ s r e f c r * $ $ ik § * y $ t m% ^ H m m f % ^ aft ?ft to ff tpit^ ^ f*r#r ifft ***fr w ! « r jwkwc g^ %^cf ire f*r^ t to? srrrc tft ^ f m i ^ r v m «rrtr, ^ r r 11 % f m r ^ t^wrcr $f i t « ^TT qf | fa spt OTT % SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : I have heard two very interesting speeches $£&% TOPK Weft I 3> *Tf during the consideration stage of the Finance t o ; sir 3fi% | srtr m ftr£tfcq?t to fr Bill. One was a very interesting discourse on Marxism which I have heard very care $rft I € t ftnslfcr ^ T O *r% sntf fully. The main object of this Bill is to continue that existing tax pattern with cer ?g% ^ftft | % m ti tain modifications in income-tax. z n t o t v t ftwr % i * The only point that needs to be answered ?*r% f%q; w r f &rr % \ is the question that was raised by Shri S. M. Banerjee viz. large arrears of income tax. That question is certainly engaging ^apfTT =3T^Tr g faft#ff our attention. 1 have myself looked into the subject. A major part of it is unrecoverable. A stage has been reached ^ spr % qn *r«i% vt where it is not possible to recover anything from them. It is only in such cases that ‘ifirpff Sr afar smt ^ ^ r ^t arrears have accumulated in the course of the last many years. I can certainty assure faroft*pt «pttar «r ^f^rr i *rr| the House that I will go into this question t^TpT te ’TT *ft ^RfhiRr ft %^pSf TOT again thoroughly and if any drastic steps are called for they will be taken with* I ?rW % to i tar ?r$ * # Unfortunately, I cannot agree with the *«$ ip qpr *rot *r*M i v|f other boa. Member there. He gave a picture of despair, He thinks there is oo hope for 143 Ffatace iffl. 1971 MARCH 27,1971 P tm e e W , m I 144 India unless we try to go the Way he wants continuanoe of the provisions relat us to go. 1 also claim to he a bumble ing to special and regulatory duties of student of Marxism, i think theories he customs and excise and of certain is advocating have somewhat become, commitments under the General out of date in the modern economic and Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and political conditions of the world today. the discontinuance of the duty on Basically, some of the things may be good. salt for the said year, be taken into But really speaking, the present world is consideration. ** different, the preteat economic conditions are different and the present social forces are The motion was adopted. different. So Tie of the theories which be wants to apply mechanically to Indian MR. SPEAKER : We will now take up conditions have become quite out of date. the claue-by-clause consideration of the Bill. This is my humble submission. I know I There are some hon. Members who are will not be able to convince him about it. anxious to speak. They may speak at the (Interruption) X know that. We are trying third reading of the Bill. to remove some of the deficiencies in our approach. It is nor something new that he has There are no amendments to clauses at told us. It is on that basis we want to the all. So, I put ail of them together. people and got the mandate. We are very The question is : clear about it; we are very frank about u. For that matter, you will have to very “That clauses 2, 3,4, 5. 6, 7 and 8 carefully study the history of India and not stand part of the Bill.*' of China. You have to understand what politically has happened in India for the The motion was adopted last 25 years. The problem of poverty in India is a chronic problem not only for the Clauses 2, 3, 4 , 5, 6, 7 and 8 last 25 years but for the last many centuries. were added to the Bill, This is new approach and this MR. SPEAKER : The question is : it for the first time in India I bat we have given the slogan of war against 4‘That clause 1 , the Enacting Formula poverty. I am sure we will succeed in that. and the Title stand part of the Bill.” I have no doubt about it I know tha problem is not easy. But the problem is not amenable The motion was adopted to mechanical rotations and by merely apply ing certain theories this problem can not be Clause 1 , the Enacting Formula and solved. The problem is a many faced problem the Title were added to the Bill and we will have to tackle it. SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: Sir, ! do not want to go into further Sir. I move : details of it. As far as the Bill is concerned, I recommend it for the acceptance of the “That the Bill be passed. House. MR. SPEAKER : Motion moved : “That the Bill be passed.'* MR. SPEAKER : The speech of the Finance Minister has been very brief and we Mr. Shukla. do you want to speak? Jume finished it before time. SHRI B, R. SHUKLA (Bahraich): Mow, the question is : Yes, Sir. “That the Bill to continue for the MR. SPEAKER ; We have fixed 5.45 financial year 1971,72 the existing for passing Finance Bill. If the House rates of income-tax with certain agrees, we can do tt earlier. modifications and to pnbvide far (I# Dr. Melkme. MS K m e e V it l.m CHAITRA 27, m s (&4JfA) finance B/tf, 1971 146 DR. MELKOTE (Hyderabad): Sir, for the Government to negotiate in such a 1 have beard with rapt attention the speech manner that this lock out is lifted and at Made by the Finance Minister. I felt that the same time, give the working class time in a vote*on*account Budget like this, it to deal with the whole problem in a satisfac would be really very difficult for any govern tory manner. I hope Government would ment to spell out the details; but even so; one appreciate what 1 am placing before them expected an indication to the removal of and deal with the question of quantum and poverty, unemployment ctc. that it made in hours of work separately and not link it up the election manifest. But I failed to target with the pay scales. those sufficiently indicated, There is also another point I would like The other point that I would like to bring to make. Just on the eve of the presenta before you is this. A good deal has been tion of the Budget, we are faced with the said both in the President's Address as well lock-out of the workers in the I A C by the as in the Finance Minister’s speech regarding Government. Is this the first reward that ending of poverty. Sir, poverty by itself the working classes get from this Govern cannot be ended merely because the Govern ment Tor returning them in sufficient ment say so. Poverty, employment and majority to this House ? The three points education, all go together and in all these which I wish to emphasise are, one is the things, whether ft is the Zila Pari&had or quantum of allowance, quantum of money the Panchayat Samiti or various other non- that the workers of the I. A. C. are demand official agencies, they have got to have a ing and should get. Secondly, (he quantum good deal to do in dealing with matter. of time, the hours of work that they have The President sometime back said 'Jobs for been asked to put in And the third is the the millions’. I do not know what attention productivity. Sir, to club all these things has been paid towards that. But, merely into a package deal is a thing we have not putting up slogans by the Government in been able to sufficiently appreciate and this particular manner will not end this understand ‘ for the simple resson that these problem. take long time to negotiate. Ona could understand some kind of an interim arrange ment with regard to the pay scales. But, We are very happy that for the first time with regard to the time, the hours of work after I9S2 when with each election the stren that one ha* got to put in or with regard to gth of the Treasury Benches was going down, the quantum of production tha one has got to this year again they khave come Jback with give, the Government is trying to force the more than two-thirds majority in the House. workers to accept a particular deal which That is because they raised a slogan which we have not seen anywhere. The working had an impact on the masses for inproving Class has got to have a say in the matter and their economic condition. We ate happy decisionsare taken after prolonged nego ia- that the Government is in a strong position tions take place because various matters to implement good mearurcs. We feel that come into consideration and it is only time has come when whatever they have then that these things get settled. If said in their Election manifesto should be Government expect to froce the workers implemented. But all this cannot be done to accept their deal just because the Govern by merely the Government stating these ment is strong enough to deal with them things ? There are various voluntary orga powerfully* I personally feel that this is nisations which have got to come into be not the occasion for the Government to do ing with a missionary zeal to take up the thikt. They can certainly come to some work and help the government, fn this, if kind of an understanding for the present as I bring in the views of Mahatma Gandhi, An interim measure, one may consider this as out-dated or out moded. Employment has got to be given in Sir, it is not merely the I A C workers sufficient measure if poverty has 10 be era th*t are involved in this. Whatever happens dicated by giving employment to a l«rge nu to them possibly will have serious effect on mber at least the primary necessities of life other wotfcets in other fields of industrial get fulfilled. AH this can be done If only undertakings. We m anxiously waiting work for the production of the primary , J47 Finance m> im m a r c h m Fmttnct BfH, t$7l m [B t. Melkote] According to their thinking, poverty such as food, clothing and housing is taken and unemployment can be eradicated only and attended to adequately by using minimum on the lines adopted by China. They may bilt efficient technical knowledge. be right according to their own light and reasons, but we have been roturned in When 1 speak of this, I am remin majority not on the basis of their manifesto, ded of what the Deputy Chairman of the but we have been returned to power on the Planning Commission said sometime ago basis of our manifesto, which !s the mani He said : festo of Democratic Socialism. “ Technology has gone wrong in asses The Swatantra party criticised the Budget sing the situation/' in tlteir own way. They say, it is socialist ; my C P M friends say, it is capitalist. It Technology has gone wrong. In key jndus* is, say, ineither capitalist nor socialist; but tries, in industries for providing the basic it is designed to us her in Democratic So necessities of life, employment of the largest cialism. numbers is a thing which is necessary. The Khadi industries and other which were dying This is not a Marxists budget. If it out must get revived in such a manner that had been a Marxist Budget, them would targe and large numbers of people get have been no opportunity for any body to employed in our village industries. criticise it. What has happened in China in the cultural revolution ? Newspapers are Educated unemployed are the greatest not allowed to speak out their minds. May revolutionaries. We have first to tackle the 1 remind what Pandit Nehru said about problem of the educated unemployed, For marxism ? Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru said this, education has got to be given a new that Marxism is out of date. reorientation. Even orthodox communism is undergoing change; our Marxist friends say Chat they T would like to mention to the Finance are not prepared to accept Russia on the Minister that while some good suggestions some footing as they accept China. That is have been mentioned in his speech they have the position with regard to orthodox not been spelt out adequately. I hope he would communism today. They say, Russia is a go into the details with regard to these matters rivisidnist country. They say, Austria is a in the next budget. Hence I do not want revisionist country. All this show that vo say anything more now. Thank you. various technological and economic forces are at work which make necessary to recon SHRI B.R. SHUKLA : Before I cile socialism and social justice with the offer my comments about the Finance tonccpt of liberty. ftlll and the general features of the Budget. 1 deem it my duty and privilege to offer my We in India under the inspired leader thanks to the hon. Finance Minister for ship of Mahatma Gandhi, who was designa bringing out a Budget which is , 1 should ted as a reactionary in the Encyclopaedia of say, bold, radical and realistic. Russia, have adopted certain principles. We think that the concept of liberty ha* to be Thin is 9 Budget which is designed to kept alive along with social justice, and that eradicate poverty and unemployment from concept has been given a concrete shape this v**t jkrnd. under the leadership of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. It has been left to us who have now been returned in a massive majority bytfce Oust Marxist friends sitting opposite have electorate, to eradicate poverty, squalor and demonstrated their complete lade of faith in ignorance from this country. Now, how are the policies ami formulations df thl* Budget we effect this ? There has been a tot of ,for the oradieaHoa ofpewfty a tf INM *** talk based on theoretical consideration*, but mant we have to tafee ft tenliaticview of things* ' ? 149 fimmce M l W \ CHAITRA xm (SAKA) Mutate Big m I& . To my m in i, them am certain hurdles in action. Therefore, they should be told that the eradication of poverty and squalor, their holdings will not be disturbed by the Some Of them are of a negative character. sporadic and periodic onslaught of the Legisl Some are of a positive character in the sense ators who indulge in such onslaughts in ord that some concrete steps have to be taken. er to get the support of certain sections of1 A negative aspect is that wealth is concen tjie society sometimes. One party, for instan- trated in a few hands and in a few business cfe, is keen to lower the ceiling to 6} acres. houses in this country. That monopoly The Communist Party in UP says that it has to be embed. Except in the case of a should be reduced to three acres. The CongT- few educated persons who hold the intellec ress Party says that it should be 60 beghas or tual monrply or who hold monopoly of about 12 acres I would submit that there character, all other types of monopoly should not be a race m matters of socialistic whether in the shape of wealth or in the measures. shape of political power are to be destroyed, (n the earlier part of the day, it was said that the monopoly of Speaker and Deputy- It is true that the law should be dynamic. Speaker had been maintained. I hope I But it should not be so dynamic as to shake shall not be misunderstood when I say that the very confidence of the people in legislative remark was rightly made. The concentra action. What I have been able to realise as a tion of economic and political power in any Member from UP ts this that the fault lies sections of the community in this not so much in the limit of the ceiling which country has got to be disturbed has been imposed on landholdings but in the and destroyed. Even in the interest of manner of the implementation of the ceiling private enterprise, it is necessary that the policy, We have to plug the loopholes monopoly in the economic sector should be destroyed, because if the licences are widely The officials, and I should say with due spread out, then there would be competition respect to them, politicians and members of and even for the growth of private enterprise legislatures, have all combined to thwart it is necessary that there should be,competi and defeat the provisions of the ceiling. tion. Many big persons who have got their minor sons and daughters have designated them as So, my first point is that economic landlesss persons and have got leases in the monopoly and economic concentration of names of their own dependents, sons and power has to be destroyed. Secondly, the daughters, although they themselves are big productive resource* of the State should be holders in the revenue records. Government so distributed that every one who is prepared officials have got lands from out of the to work and who wants to be happy and surplus after the imposition of ceiling. So prosperous would get an opportunity to long as these officials are not curbed, so chalk out his own line of action. long as we do not rise to the real patriotic level, so long as we do not believe in So far as the distribution of land resour practical socialism* it is very difficult to ces of the State is concerned, we have implement the provisions of any socialist imposed ceilings in many States. It has policy, howsoever loudly we may indulge id been suggested by some hon, Members that protestations here or outside. the limit of the celling on agricultural holdings should be further lowered. 1 am The second thing is how to produce of the view that the ceiling on land-holding consumer and other goods necessary for is not required to be further lowered, if we eradication of poverty. So far ihere has are to keep in view the interests of the culti been lopsided development, Those who vators themselves, because that would take are vociferous, who have resources, aw*y the incentives from the cultivators. who have approaches to the powers Many cultivators have invested money and that we have got the lion's share out purchased tractors. They have invested money of the industrial investment, where as also for fta improvement of agriculture, if those who have not got good advocates to we suddenly tower the ceiling, then it will *h« tupport tyeir demands do no get even «* ^etheifftithin theconOnwHy of legislative iota af * share of this investment, i5t Flame* W * m MARCH 27,1971 Finance IW> W\ l » [Shri B. R, Shufcla] cannot be prosperous if they am so negloeted. Take, for instance, my district of I'should not be accused of a feeling of Babraich. It borders Nepal. We share regionalism when I ask for certain things. the characteristics of the economic I ask for these facilities merely because backwardness of that neighbouring State. poverty is indivisible. If there is poverty There is not even a single industrial unit in m one part of the country it will have its the public sector in that .district. There is own repercusion even on the prosperity of only one small sick sugar mill situation the another part of the country. Justice is southern extreme of the district which indivisible, liberty is indivisible and simil caters for the needs of Bahraich, Gonda, arly poverty is a'so indivisible, If I am poor, and Bara Banki. We have vast resources. your prosperity and your riches are in We have fertile land, greenforests. There peril. are a number of rivers. But these resoures still remain untapped. A paper mill was One thing which has nol been emphasis allocated to our district. Unfortunately, ed by anybody is this, tbit there should be because of political pressure, that too has intensive propaganda abjut family planning, gone to a neighboring district. 1 do not unless family planning is implemented in grudge my neighbouring district getting it. all its aspects, economic growth would be Birt my district should also have a paper negctivcd. mtfli We have got a bund on the river Gaghra. On one side, there is the bund ; I conrgalulate Mr. Bannerjec for his very Use fields are all under Hood ; and no crop sobre speech taking the brighter side of the except sugarcane can be grown on the land Budget proposals and also voicing his own falling between the bund and the mam sentiments about the shortfalls. We should current of Gaghra. But there is no sugar duly take note of them and try to build mil) in that area to utilise the cane My India on socialist lines consistent with the submission is that in every district there concept of liberty. should at least be one or two factories, % preferably in the public sector, but if it is SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond necessary, in the private sector, to utilise Harbour): Just a few minutes to the produce of that area. In the formative magnify the hoodwinking process that they Stage of our industrial development, we launched today. The Finance Bill is only cannot afford to ignore the private sector. an outcome of that. The third thing that needs mention is that vast area of land still remains unirriga- How have you dev ilued the Indian rupee led. In the First end Second Five Year which hi? failed the Indian people miser* Flans, some tubewells were sunk. One ably! Today it is not more than ten per cent could see a board displayed on every road of its face value You devalued it once saying that under the First Plan so many and again you are under pressure. That is tubewells were sunk. Since then a good-bye why we presume that Gen. Westmoreland has deeti given to this Plan with the resuit the Vietnem butcher, has bsen your guest, that three-fourth of the cultivated area of visiting India at our cost. my district remains without any source of Irrigation. Who devalued the rupee? The Prime The Sarjoo canal scheme was launched Minister surely was then there. You are as early as 1960, but after a good deal of blaming Morarji Desai and Ashok Mehta, feseardi it has been shifted to Lakhimpur. 1 agree they were there to be blamed. But The headworks ate established in my district the principal blame has to go the Prime and the river which falls within the limit Minister who was a party to effecting deva of my district has to feed the canal. luation in thin country. You are walking But the waters have to go to the neighbour into that trap once agnin. ing districts* Such is the case. So, we m without any canal, without any industry. Iften I dome to the growth of monopo Unde* these cirucmstances how ean you ex* lists, both foreigri and Indian/ Today, tffer pcet that Bahraich should become prosperous. 31 years of golden Congest rule, f m iue Babraicb cannot be pm petiqp* and Gonda talking about sociaiiam. Today the wctfai* 153 J?'tmace mil, 1971 CHATTRA 6, 1893 (SAKA) Finance Btf, 1971 154 Indian's expenditure is 36 paise per day, your eyes shut and not prosecuted them? Be You ought to hai^g your head in shame. cause, 1 learnt reliably that they have made You falk About socialism. a very fat contribution to your election fund for selling socialism to the country. A Let m see the growth of monopolists. brand of cigarettes India King, sells at. Rs. Foreign patents in drugs tn India are near 3.70 for 20. It almost works out to 18 about 90 per cent while in America it is paise per cigarette, If you take away the barely 13 per cent. A medicine that you excise duty of 9 paise the company gets 9 can buy in the Comment Tor Rs. 250 a kilo paise per cigarette. Out of this the farmer gram-through the USAID ihey are easily gets by way of tobacco value less than 1 saleable to the stooges who profess them patse. The balance goes to your socialist selves to be socialists —you are buying at Rs. friends in Britain. They had a total turn 11,000 a kilogram. A mcdictne which over of over Rs. 170 crores in one financial costs eight annas to produce you thru&t on year; and they made a grosss profit of Rs. 50 the poor man to buy at Rs. 10,50. And crores. The socialist Mr. Chavan should you dare to talk about socialism. take care of this. Look at tho price and profit. During In Bengal we instituted a jute enquiry August, under the pretext of control ot drug commission. The poor farmer who produces prices, m 18 days you allowed the monopo jute for over hundred years, especially during lists to reap a harvest of R*> 8 crores. No the last 23 years, has giving you his doubt they made a fat contribution to your pound of flesh every year because by election fund for bringing socialism to the resorting to trickery and oroockery for Rs. dying humanity of this country. 35 or 45 he has been made to part with jute worth Rs. 60. In foreign market that juie What about sugar? A kilo of sugar is worth Rs. 200/-. We had appointed a which costs ten annas to produce at the fac jute enquiry commission to look into these tory gate you have been allowing monopo matters. After the imposition of the lists to sell at rupee two. For one year you socialist President's rule, controlled by Mrs, had forced tt on the consumer at mpees Indira Gandhi, the great supersocialist the five to rupees six And for partial de-con enquiry has been torpedoed and sabotaged trol of sugar we know how much you got because the Marwari jute magnates in from the sugar magnates as you did in the Calcutta threatened that if this enquiry con case of cement from CACO. tinue they would not give enough subscrip tion for the Congress election fund to bring You want to bring in socialism with in socialism. monopolist money. That sort of story you can sell to innocent people, not to all. What aoout demonetisation? We want What about foreign loans ? You are paying you to demonetise. You cannot, because if about 45 per cent of your total export earn you do so all these election money and the ings as servicing and interest charges, and flow of wealth of Rs. 50*60 crores, as much the days is not far off, if 1 am to quote money as you required to buy ballot papers your friend that famous man in the World and win th>j elections would never have Bank today, when u would be 100 per cent come. Nobody will part with his white Mr, Chavan, doctor of socialism treat money to bring you bade to power, How thyself. socialist are you. The growth of monopolies has been Your defence expenditure has in the f&bulojas in this country. The Imperial course of the last few years risen from Rs. $00 Tobacco Company has assumed a new name, to 900 crores and from Rs. 900 erores to Rs. ‘Indian Tabooco Company’ ft is as Indian 1000 crores and then to Rs. 1,165 crores and Congress of today is practising socialism. tftis year it has again recorded an increase They have a licence to produce IB thousand The Police that you require for briftgiog in rniiUoh ciggarettes per year. Instead they socialism and the three battalions of CRP have been producing between 25 and 30 the criminal reserve force, will cost you auo millions, Why have you kept the; Rs. 9.5 crores for having a parralkl net 153 Finance B; /, 1971 MARCH 27 ,1S71 Finance W/?, 1471 156 {Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu] railways ? It is the biggest public sector work of policing in West Bengal and other Institution with a real value of Rs. 4000 cro- doubtful areas you must have a net*work of rcs, and under the pressure from Central Intelligence service, Therefore you foreign and Indian monopolists* you require money. That is the type of socialism have gone into high over-capitalisation that you propose to bring. on the Ind.an railways. Make a note of it. i Under the present set-up, it can never make t shall now refrer to the unemployment a profit, bceause you have burnt your boats figures which stand at 78 millions at the end there. You have gone foi dieselization because 'of the Forth Plan. That is your creation. You Mr Patil, once a railway Minister,had cons pired with the Americans deisel manufact want to undo it by you cannot. The moment you undo it you will be thrown out of power. urers and diesel engine mauufacturcrs. A big We have gone indust ry-wise and have found hole has been dug on the wall of the econo my of the Indian railways, and that will be in every major industry, Jute, Tea, Oil engi neering textile, coal etc. The output has in* a drain on the Indian people’s money. Either you pay by an enhanced rate of tickets creased and the money earned has increased but employment has gone down. 1 can give or you pay through indirect taxation. There is no cscape from it. It is the Congress Gov the figures to Mr. Chavan if he wants. We ernment in collaboration, for their own exis had tabled a resolution in this iiouse in tence, during the last 23 years that have August* 1970. It was finalised actually in November, 1969. The Oovrenment came for ruind the economy of the country and wrecked the future of the country. ward "With an assurance that they would form committee. We know how serious they are are about the problem and how kind they SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : w e to the unemployed if I tell you that they Sir, 1 do not khow whether 1 should took a good IS months to constitute this reply at length to the debate on the third re committee after I had written a good 20 garding. But I must thank Shri Jyotirmoy (alters to the Prime Minister, What is the Bosu. He has raised certainly some ponits, value one should attach to their assurances Though not very relevant, some of his points on the floor of the House ? I leave it at that. need clarification. 1 certainly take note of What 1 am saying is, are they keen to do what Dr. Malkote said about certain aspects. any of these things ? If you ask me, not at My other friend, Shri Shukla, made a very all; these are all vote-catching stunts. good spe ech. He has endorsed politically whatever I have said. Of course, whatever MR- SPEAKER : The hon. Member’s he said about land ceiling, possibly time is up. 1 have got my own differences with him. I must say for the sake of the record that the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I shall fin party and the manifesto which we have* ish in just one minute, about minor irrigation nccpted are somewhat different from what rural electrification, what do you perpose to he has said* It is much better if be reads do about them especially in those areas them again. where minor irrigation and rural electrifica tion are scantly, in those areas of Assam and Orissa and West Bengal, where you have the As far as Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu is concer most backward regions ? What do you per ned. He has disappeared. 1 pose to do ? Without that, yon can never have a generation of basic wealth, Mr. Finan SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : t am ce Minister. Please understand it—generation very much here. of baste wealth. If you do not do it, you can mever do any thing, you do not propose to SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAYAN : because these things do not get into your First of all, he mentioned about capacity head, especially because all your programmes the ludian rupee. Let me assure thi« House «nd plans are drawn by high powered sales- and let me assert that tb# Indian rupti* Is $trtan of foreign of Indian moaopolists. That very much tadiaa rupee. Its value i» in n o » is what, I am spying. way less* The capacity. (Interruption) The Indian rupee is as strong Because the percapita income of the Indian &» before. What is the use of raising the citizen is less, therefore, wc are talking question of devaluation? That quesrion was of socialism. There is nothing to be ashamed disguised on merits here in this hon. house of it. It is only because of that we are I do not think wo need respect all the same taking about socialism. In this country, arguments again. poor men are in overwhelming numbers. That is why we are talking of socialism. Then, he mentioned certain figures. We are not taking of socialism for China's I do not know about the manufacturers and sake. We are loyal to our. Indian people black marketeers. 1 am not sure about the We know the Indian people are poor. It is figures that he has manufactured here. there demand that there should be socialism and therefore we are talking of socialism. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Kindly read the debate. You want money. He mentioned about increase in defence expenditure. These are some of their typical SHRI YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN : I arguments : Only because we are providing can tell you only one thing, i must repud i- for our defence properly, therefore, we are ate it with all the emphasis at my command not true to socialism 1 Do they want us to all the things that he said : that this was remain defenceless and become a victim of done because funds were f required for the some of the aggressive powers ? 1 do not election by the ruling party. want to make a mention of any power as such. But any country which wants to be SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : What peaceful and friendly with any neighbouring about the cement allocation ? You took Rs. country has to be strong in its own crores. Shri Fakhruddin Ail Ahmod has defence. Therefore, this country will have confessed on the floor of the House. It is to look after its defence. But it appears on record. I small produce it. (Inter these people want this country to be ruption) weak on the point of defence. This gives an inkling to what they are thinking SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN : about India's defence. We are going Whatever you produce. You can produce. according to a certain rolling defence plan. (Interruption)• But the point is, to think that If the expenditure is about Rs. 66 crores one can win the election only with the help more, it is a very normal natural growth as of rupees and purchase votes is not merely years pass. This criticism is politically an insult to the Government, and an biased. Any Horn fide criticism from the insult to the party, but it is an insult to the the Indian point of view is certainly welcome. Indian people. That is what I wolud say. But I am afraid most of his criticism is not Millions of people have come out and based on the concept of Indian politics supported our patty. Does he mean to or ttret of Indian sovereignty or Indian say that they supported it only for the sake independence. There is something hetero of money ? This is your technique of winning genous involved in it. That is why 1 totally the election. That is all I would say, reject all the allegations he has made. MR. SPEAKER ; The question is : Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu has certainly •'That the Bill be passed. ” uttered some words of wisdom also. He saitf this question of generation of basic The motion m s adopted- * wealth is a very important thing. That is the only wise thing he said. But what has his f»rty done when it had the opportunity to rule West Bengal t What have t hey done 17.48 hr* to Durgapur ? it is a tragic tale. That mow important industrial complex of India THE WEST BENGAL BUDGET 1971-72 is fcffccttealiy on the brink of ruination hecm m your fxttltfes i» West Bengal THE MINISTER OP STATE IN tHB and j*«; gentlemen, are talking abaiit MINISTRY OF FINANCE VJDYA iftcwing the CHARAN SHUKLA) : 8Jr. 1 beg to present 159 m »**#*/ MARCH 27, 1971 * u d g tt 1971*72 160 [Shri Vidya Charaa Shukla] overall gaps of Rs. 11,0$ crores was antici a statement of the estimated receipts and pated. Part of this gap, to the extent of Rs. expenditure of the West Bengal for the 1.66 crores was to be covered by th* Open* year 1971—72. ing balance of this year. In the revised Esti mates for 1970-71 included in the Budget There is a brief statement that 1 have now, although the expenditure on several to make to explain the budgetary provisions. heads like payment of arrears to non-govern* If you permit me, 1 will lay it on the mental educational institutions, of Police etc, Table. has increasd, the overall gaps in the current MR, SPEAKER : Yes. year is estimated to be of the order of R.s. 10.60 crores which after adjustment of the SHRl VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA : I opening balance of Rs. 1.66 crorers, would lay it on the Table. leave and uncovered gap of Rs. 8 94 crores. Statement on the Budget of the 4. The current year’s plan outlay stands State of West Bengal for 1971-72 at Rs. 51 36 crores for which the Central assistance will be Rs. 40.07 crores. A provi Sir. sion of Rs. 7 44 crorers has been made m the cut rents year far Centrally sponsored The House is aware that after the recent schemes which aie fully financed by the elections in West Bengal, it has not yet been Central Government. possible for a Ministry to be formed there. It is, however, a matter agreat satis- 5- Horfble Members are aware that a foption that, by and large, elections were held statutory autlionty known as the Calcutta peacefully throughout the State of west Ben Metropolitan Devolopment Auihoiinty has gal and the people were able to exercise been established to implement speedily the their, franchise. I am hopeful that very soon developmental schemes in the Culcutta Met it would be passible for an elected Ministry ropolitan Area. Work under the guidance 4o assume office in West Bengal. Meanwhile, and supervision oF this Authority is prece the President’s rule continues and it is there ding with good speed and earnestness. About f o r e , necessary that the State’s Budget should Rs. 20 crores are likely to be spent in the be presented here and at least a vote-on- current year on the developmental and imp a c c o u n t obtained. The new Government and rovement schemes already undertaken. This the West Bengal Assembly would, I am sure, is inclusive of an expenditurue of Rs. 1.5 be in position to consider in due conrse the crores on Bustee Improvement measures final Budget for the state. for which purpose a grant has been given by the Central Government. 2. At the outset, it may be mentioned -6. An Act has been passed to levy tax that the Budget Estimates now being presen on notitled goods entering Calcutta Metro* ted to the Parliament contain certain assum poiitan Area for use or sale therein. This ptions which are not fully in accordance with Act came into force in the midJie of Novem* the decisions arrived at in discussions held ber last. Fifty per cent of the net proceeds in the Planning Commission. Since time from this tax will be made over to the Cal< was short, and as only a vote-on-account is cutta Corporation and the other local bodies being obtained no charges in these estimates within the metropolitan area to augment have been made at this time. 1 have no their revenue resources and the remaining doubt that the State Government and the half will be utilised by the Calcutta Metro* State Assembly will undertake a fuller rev politan Development Authority for develop iew and will make a closer examination of mental work within the metropolitan area these estimates when they consider the final as also to enable it to service it# debt obti* Budget later in the year. gations. 3. Hon’bte Members will recall that 7. The State we# visited by vwy severe wlwo tip fadtst CuiKWM* «w» pnwatad 10. The development schemes in the ijsr ^ fa* 'ShrFT metropolitan aiea are to be continued with finrw-OTt r m % added vigour, The State Flan provides for tlH* a* amount of Rs. 9.54 croees, Thh itm Pft****?'* w i f t w Provisk>n'wUl be supplemented by receipts^ jnnn octroi income, market bomwings,' spt s w t i k , Joan* tom Cemeal or Central totfituifoni «usd grants for Susie* improve- % irttwr if The a c tu a l^ and other details *f «rw fa •pt tftni % tnw vWMfjpB*r 5 W Programme wilt shortly be finalised ia with the Stat* Qt s n f r m $ 4 *** .$* I« W. Bengal Mget 1971-72 MARCH 27, 197t ft'. Benpif budget 1974.72 164 [«ft fim g w ] TOT V W^FRTTh OT h WW wPST i. w nfcir * w r 3ifWf Rpc % stf«TH 11 m % ftp? 36.49 W in *F «PTtf wt $WTOf*flP TO n *P w [ * r* f t o j f t «nw «rf t «nf¥ ifrw r’awtf »r*t 1 ffwnwr 1970-71 % WfftftRT wjnpff jf 27.33 ■rpT fttfeftin Pf t^te 9. 1971-72 * fa fo w n r w 4 *Wf tlWJHW t ft* [ 17.50 hrs. SHRI P. K. DEO : Sir, how dan he lay ( it on the Table ? ORiSSA BUDGET* 1971-72 MR, SPEAKER : If he Persists like this, SHRI P. K, DEO (Kalabandi) : ! will have to name him. Sir, on a point of order on the item which * t he is going to lajf on the Table, 1 take SHRI P.K. PEO ; I cannot be a Party string exception to this. This is n*t the to this. I am withdrawing from the House Prqperitomn to f t t m i the Orissa feufegct. The proper frown if the Orissa Ugislamw (Skr/ f-K- the* hft, tketimstfr ♦Not'Wor'fc i® Orissa 1 *t\-n CttAltRA 6. 1*93 (SAKA) Orissa Bitd%eu MUH 110 smx VIDYA CHARAN SHUKLA : I increase and additional resource mobilisation be* to present a statement of the estimated at the existing rates for financing Man receipts and expenditure of the State of schemes. The total revenue expenditure of Orissa for the year 1971-72. of Rs.154.08 crores includes Rs. 13.37 crores for State Plan schemes and Rs. 9.36 crores Statements on the budget of tmb for Centrally sponsored schemes. The State of Orissa f o r 1971-72 Estimates include provision for additional dearness allowance sanctioned by the State Sir, Government including grants to Local Bodies and aided educational institutions for this Honourable Members are aware of the purpose. Under Capital Account the Budget circumstances leading to the Presidential Estimate of Rs. 32.43. croress includes the Proclamation under Article 356 of the provision of Rs. 29. 32 crores towards Stale Constitution of India taking over the Plan Schemes and Rs.O 83crores for Centrally administration of the State of Orissa.Elections sponsored schemes. According to the Esti to the State Assembly were held on the Sih mates, the year 1971*72 will c’ose with an of March, 1971. Although the results have overall surplus of Rs. 33 lakhs. been declared, it has not so far been possible to form a Popular ministry. Under the 4. The outlay for the State’s annual circumstances, it has become necessary to Plan 1971-72 has been fixed at Rs. 48.33 obtain a ‘Vote on Account' for the State crores of which Central assistance will be from Parliament for the first four months Rs.32 crores. of the financial year to enable the State administration to incur essential expenditure. 5. The outlay for die Fourth Five Year plan In the event of Ministry being formed in has been fixed at Rs. 222 6 crores wich in* in the near future, the final Budget would eludes Rs. 160 crores as Central assistance be presented to the State Legislature for and Rs. 62.60 crores as States* own re obtaining the vote for the full year. sources. In view of the trends in resource mobilisation by the State, the State may 2. The revenue receipts in the Revised well exceed the target set in this regard. Estimates show an increase of Rs. 5.95 crores This would enable it to have the size of the mainly due to better re\cnue collection and state Plan increased correspondingly. more interest receipts. The revenue expendi ture in the Revised Estimates is placed at Rs. 6. The output of foodgrains production 144,79 crores i.e., Rs. 1 33 ciores more than which was about 52 lakh tonnes in 1969-70, provided in the original Budget due mainly to is expected to increase to 56 lakh tonnes more expenditure on elections and payment during 1970>-7I and reach a level of 60 lakh of dearness allowance to employees. The tonnes during the coming year. Puriag Central Government granted special the current year, an additional area of about accommodation of Rs. 26.38 crores to the 1,50,000 acres has been brought under Government of Orissa during the year to irrigation. A similar addition is planned meet its deficit which was estimated at for 1971 >72, Construction work on a number Rs. 30.96 trores in the original Budget. As of new medium projects is planned to a result and as the State opened the year commence during 1971-72. In the field of with a cosh balance of Rs. 2.82 croies, the power generation, the State has already set year will now close with a small surplus up a capacity of 560 MW. It is expected taHgoc* tp go upto 920 MW by the end of the Fourth Plan. The number o’f villages 3. Next year’s revenue receipts are electrified upto the. end of the current year: pfecedat R«, 146.48 crores, reflecting an is expected to reach a figure of 1150. The improvement of Rs, 8 15 crores over the target for the next year is to electrify 1009 Revised Estimate for the current year. The more villages. In the field of industry, the Revenue expenditure is placed at Rs. 154.08 current year has been one of consolidation* crones resulting fa Revenue deficit of Rs.7.60 We hope that during 1971-72, it will be' ctotfti 'Apart from grants from Centre, the possible to start work m a number qf Hew tm m fc, nejpefets assist pf estimate* at lane scale iajM rjqa, letters oU*ie*t for curww Jevelsof taxation with normal trend some of which have been’ issued (a favour 171 Orista budget, 1971-72 MARCH 27. 1971 OriSM budget, 1971-72 II? [Still Vidy* Ctanm ShvkU] f w ’ srrar w «wwnt »pn of*h» Industrie Development Corporation t r w s w m w « w k ofOrfcsa. % «pr wft tf fefRr * ,* * * * 7. SU special schemes have been% ftp* sr* ^ frgcf trp^r *sr% % spiW r initiated during 1970.71 ia a few selected districts With 100 per cent Central assistance. % srfaPT'Prfc tf'rrc fprr w n c , That* schemes am designed to benefit the trwr % ffsrsr-jrwar % snpr sreger A rt Marginal Farmers, Small Farmor* and wuptt i landless labourers and also create employ ment potential in areas which are lusccptible net recurrent spells of drought The labour 2. TOffer vym ft ft TPm-srrfeRf intensive schemes taken up under these % «r*T'f 3 . *m$r ^ # tnm m W HWFff f f w qpt totw kpit 146.48 frttr wn 1 1 u f w w % ftn * f w * « n * mfc «rfirPp»er s n t f f % *rt u t o | «frc * n w | f a •rfcijpr * n f i m f i w % M 3n*t an$r *4 # * $ 6o w * tHjv m an? [«ft farerrTOu $*w] SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY I It is the function of this House to see that the * tro % *ns fW firaft constitutional provisions are strictly followed fcrrtor #wrcr f a m gft s r f m k t SURENDRA MfrHANTY i It mAfcr be on Monday or Tuesday. It has a« ^ THE MINISTER OF tTATE IN THE significance. Sir, you have given me kind MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI VIDYA pWfttittfcw* to bttv« my say, CrfARAN SHUKtA): I be* t t * sfanearapt 01 tne tjwtmaww n ttip ti MDl SPEAKER : Vt it a point of order 7 expenditure of the State it Mysore far the Wliil'is toffefKfe* t ' 1 * yuiri 177 Mysore Budget, 1971-72 CHAITRA 6, 1893 (SAKA) Mysore Budget, 1971-72 178 Statbmbnt On The Bi doet Of Tub ture is Rs. 38.79 crores as against Rs. 46.61 S tate Of M y s o r e crores in the Revised Estimates for the F o r 1971—72 current year. The next year’s Budget shows an overall deficit of Bs. 14.46 crores. Sir, 4. The Budget for 1971-72 provides I beg to present, the ‘Vote’ on Account*for a Plan Outlay of Rs. 79.67 crores. The Budget of the State of Mysore for 1971— 72. Outlay approved by the Planning Commission Sir, the House is aware th t a Proclamat on was Rs. 70 crores. The State Government under Article 356 of thi. Constitution aas will have to consider measures for mobilizing been issued by the Presid snt of India today resources for financing the higher outlay. in respect of the State of Mysore. By virtue Apart from the State Plan, there will be an of this Proclamation, th powers of the outlay of Rs. 12.50 crores on Centrally Legislature of the State are now exercisable Sponsored Schemes. About Rs. 8 crores by or under the authority of the Parliament. will also be provided by the Centre under Accordingly, the Budget of the State of special programmes for Small Farmers, Mysore for the year i 97J —72 which was Marginal Farmers and Agricultural Labour, laid before the State Legislature, but was as well as special schemes to relive rural not passed by until the issu„* of Proclamation unemployment. is now being laid before Parliament. For the presnt, a Vote on Account for the period [*rzt&T, from April to July, 1971, only is being sought m order to carry on ihe administration. t iTf* r m *FT 1971-72 Srtnj- o t m srcger t o r r g* i 2. The Budget for the current year envisaged a deficit of Rs. 15. 48 crores on fafar tfosrfarsmr% 356 % revenue account. The Revised Estimates show a nominal surplus of Rs. 1. 79 crores. x w p f o stt? x m % srft The revenue receipts in the current year $ «rnr ^ ^>nt!Tr srrft ^ 11 now stand at Rs. 254.66 crores as against the Budget Estimate of Rs. 233.47 crores. % s rfm , x m % farer*- This is largely due to improvement in tax vrfkwl snfor wr m r collections, artd in other receipts. Expendi ture met from revenue is now estimated at m m s % jnftrcnr $ rarn?r fr*rr m m Rs. 252.87 crores as against Rs. 248.95 | I $ % X x m *PT 1971-72 in the Budget Estimates. The Capital expenditure is estimated at Rs. 46.61 crores ^srs, stft *nrer % *rr*r% w as against the Budg# Estimates of Rs. 42.43 t o *tt $rfc?r ^ w r w f t w i % *rret croies. ^ m W % 8TKT f ifa T 1 R T 3. For the year 1971-72, the total «rr, sra s irs % f«Rr revenue receipts am estimated at Rs. 273.05 cmres a* against Rs. 254.66 crores as per *rr tfr 11 fw^Fr, ^ ^rrl 1971 Revised Estimates for the current year. m # w ftr % faq: $ , arr The increase of ffo. 18.39 crorer is accounted for mainly tinder Saids Tax, share of Central | * ra m wr w* i Taxes, Other Taxes and Duties and Grants- in-aid from Central Government. Next 2. ^ % CVS $ TTTOTt 1548 year's expenditure met from revenue Is w t % *n% *pt srj*n?r i m t f m Placed ^at Rs. 275.94 crores 'as again# Rs. 25?,87 civm according t* the Revised n^rFff % l .79 *v x r z . ^ Estimates tor fee current year. The Increase stfW r fw p rr *ptt t « ^ ^ ia expenditure w A * t« tt w n **• *rmf t o «tt i ?wr 46.61 tf «RT«rrtf srRift i] »r* ^t«ryrFr| w sTgm* 42.43 *rrs w t ^ t m i 17 57 hrs. 3. 1971-72 % 273.05 TO3 DEMANDS FOR SUPPLEMENTARY ^ t f TT3rw-srTf«?r«ff ®pt *m m GRANTS (MYSORE), 1970-71 t o | , ararfo % tfsftfa*r «Ff*rH THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI VIDYA $r 254.66 ^ ^T STftrR TO3T CHARAN SHUKLA) : 1 beg to present a *nrr «rr i 18.39 w r t f statement showing Supplementary Demands for Grants in respect of the State of Mysore fT O ; f«r& «FC, fcsfa 3RT % f|*%, ?T^T for 1970-71. With your permission, Sir, I aFXt sftr sffa ^rwTT % stt^ aho lay the explanatory statements. Rather *t$jto snj*rHt% ?Rr*fa $ i | » than reading them here, 1 would like to lay them on the Table of the House, that w & m t r w 3r f w 3tt% ^rr^rr sro is, for Orissa, Mysore and West Bengal. 275.94 ’prt %mm snrtf t o srafo MR. SPEAKER ; Yes. % #«frf^rar spj*tr % *rf?nT *r§ TS*W 252.87 afrd^ WTT *ft I TT3f?«f SHRf % M 9TT% ^r?T s*W t f f e 5^TPT: ^TTRT- 17.58 hrs fsRr sfk f^Fm srwsft forcrt «ftr # f - BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE—Canid. % *rer*fa 5?m«rr W ^ r %«Fmu 1 1 tftf*w«w* ftp* 39.79 MR. SPEAKER: Now, before we ?rdt ^ tf sq^rr tf »r*ft i, «swPf adjourn, I would like to say one thing. Some of the Members or vqry keen to go $ 46.61 srd? to their respective constituencies as a t f t f 1 *m% % number t oof t *r things are yet to be doae about filing there accounts and all that. There jpf fofrPR 14.46 W TO were two suggestions either to adjourn to the third week of April of we finish the business by the 2nd. I discussed it with- the Minister of ParHunentftry Afffcirs, I 4 . 1971-72 % to t $ ^fraFrrqrft- got the list of business. I tl»nk, if we **9 % tor 79,67 tf ^IWT sit for a litite overtime, say, by an hour (of t f n tf «rt«fWT *mfrr ^ 70 srtf* two days, we SHRI CHiNTAMANI PANIGRAHI MR. SP&AKBR : No, no. We are all (Bhubaneswar): The last date of submitting very keen to finish every thing that is left account* is I lth. over in our constituencies after the elect ions, the accounts and all that. The people ace running after us with their bills and all that. MR. SPEAKER : Supposing we adjourn How to settle them ? They come to Delhi. and come again after two weeks, then we They do not believe us that we have money have the harvesting season. The harvesting left for paying them. So, we have to finish season is continuing. We always adjourn everything. Then, the harvesting season for the harvesting season. That is the reason comes. After that, we will come back and why 1 am trying to finish earlier. We will finish the remaining business. This business meet again sometime at the end of May and will be finished by the 2nd. Thank you finish the remaining legislative business. I very much. hope all of you agree. So, we adjourn to meet again on HON. MEMBERS : Yes. Monday at 11 A. M. h r*. SHRl S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur)] 18 .0 0 There was a suggestion—1 do not know ; 1 speak subject to correction—that we The Lok Sabha then adjourned till adjourn sine die on the 2nd and we again Eleven of the Clock on Monday, March meet on the 15th April. 29, WllChaitra 8* 1893 iSaka).